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From: fajack@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Samyvellu and MIC
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:57:22 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Sep28.192023.25343@news.ysu.edu>, af620@yfn.ysu.edu (Andrew Tan) writes:
> 
> Under "extreme duress", I have been "forced" to contribute
> an issue that might be of interest to the newsgroup.
> 
> I choose Samyvellu and MIC. Previously there has been posts in
> this newsgroup calling for the removal of corrupt gov't officials
> in Malaysia. Perhaps it is a little premature to judge
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Samyvellu for his latest TELEKOM debacle, but I hereby nominate
> Mr Samyvellu as the candidate to be removed. Afterall, from what
> I heard from my Indian friends, he has contributed diddly to
> the Indian community and has not proved his worth.
> 
> Do y'all remember the casket incident and the lost of the casket?
> Sheeeeshhh...how low can politics stoop.
> 
> 
	A little premature is the understatement of the decade.  Samyvellu
is the epitome of corruptions in Malaysia.  When he was the minister of
transportation, he was nicknamed 'Mr. 5 percent'.   It means, he will collect
5% on every major project/transaction in the ministry.
	He admitted he owns two houses in Australia.  He is a member of
parliment from my hometown Sg. Siput.  It is no secret to local residents 
that he has a mistress there.   He also bought her a house and a 
proton saga (that guy is cheap !).  
	It really enrages me when I see that the majority of the indian 
community are destitute, and this guy is reaping all the 'fringe benefits'
in the name of helping his people.   What makes it so sad is that there is
not a damm thing we can do.


Jack Teh  
	


  


> ATAN
> 
> p.s. Hmmm...1 article on food, and one on Samyvellu so far.
>      How many do you have Geeva Subramaniam???
>
From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Get news from seasia-l
Date: 5 Oct 92 04:48:01 GMT
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I got an email form Elliot Parker offering people who just want news to
subscribe to SEASIA-L.

Below is a selected message of what he had sent to me:

     Yes, SEASIA-L is aimed more at the person who wants news,
information, and informed opinion about SEA, while s.c.a. tends
to be more orientated towards a good chat.
     For the most part, subscribers on SEASIA-L just do not have
the time or interest to wade through the material on s.c.a.
Like a magazine, the reader should have an idea of what they
will find inside--no magazine has everything on every subject.
     On the other hand, I sometimes forward to SEASIA-L
some news of general interest from s.c.a.
   As a matter of fact, there is also a list SEANET-L@NUSVM
that has even a different orientation.  They focus specifically
on the professional concerns of scholars and researchers studying SEA.
   I would hope that these very nebulous distinctions do not
begin to merge.
   If your friend has access to Internet or Bitnet, she can access
SEASIA-L.  If she is having trouble, have her contact me.
Accessibility is dependent on your site managers.  If you want
SEASIA-L as a Usenet newsgroup, it is available as bit.listserv.seasia-l
Your site determines what you can receive.
--elliott

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Department of Journalism         Less certain possibilities:
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Mt. Pleasant, MI 48859 USA         CompuServe: 70701,520
Office tele: +1 (517) 774-3196     The WELL: eparker@well.sf.ca.us


So anyone who wants news should contact Elliot Parker on how to subscribe
to SEASIA-L as he owns these lists. His news are also of higher journalistic
content than those found in s.c.asean which I regularly contribute.
	So let us dwell in chaos here in s.c.asean .

There is an interesting article about Malaysia with all the facts given,
unlike our style here of "hantam sahaja", currently in SEASIA-L. Please
try to subscribe to it if you want an educated analysis, although not
controversial enough for my taste.
	I dare not cross post it because the original author had not deemed
it necessary.
--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: kahchan@banana.iss.nus.sg (low kah chan)
Subject: School ranking (was Re: Test Sent)
Reply-To: kahchan@iss.nus.sg (low kah chan)
Organization: Institute of Systems Science, NUS, Singapore
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 06:39:49 GMT

In article <BvDHGo.6Dp@ecf.toronto.edu> huangs@ecf.toronto.edu (HUANG SUNG CHING) writes:
]>Does that mean Catholic High or Chinese High?  For fans of the latter I
]>am happy to report that our alma mater ranked number 4 in the list of
]>"best high schools" released by the govt.
]
]     I supposed that Raffles Institute ranks first as usual.  What about 
]     the SAPschools, for example Dunman High?

1.) RI
2.) RGS
3.) Dunman
4.) Chinese High
(others firgotten)

I found it quite strange that well known schools like ACS and SJI were
not among the top ten.  I wonder what criteria were used.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Blackout in Singapore and West Malaysia
From: chuah@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (DanC)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 04:43:18 GMT
Organization: Electronic and Electrical Engineering Department, University of Canterbury, New Zealand.

In article <1992Sep30.162033.12417@bmers95.bnr.ca> khor@bnr.ca (Kyle Hor) writes:
>|> Fire at Senoko station causes 13-hour blackout
>|> ----------------------------------------------

>|> Witnesses said they heard several explosions soon after the fire broke
>|> out at about 9.20am.
>|> 
>A short-circuit in the switch-gear?  Hmm, some heads gonna roll.  I
>wonder what caused the short circuit and why didn't the breakers
>disengage fast enough. Switch gear circuitries (sp?) are mostly simple
>but it's safety design is an art with lots of sensors and breakers in
>the right places.

It sounds more like the generator transformers going off.  Sometimes
transient instabilities of the transmission lines can cause
switch gear to "blow up".  However, for switch gear to short-
circuit does sound a bit suspect - probably a circuit maker
was accidently switch on, shorting the bus bars to ground  :).
 
>If the switch-gear could just short-circuit and cause a major fire,
>then it is time PUB review all it's switch-gears and upgrade. 

The fire could be in the generators if the switch yard coupled
a 220 KV bus loading 100MW to ground.  he fault could be
human caused.  However, modern power station designs can
usually isolate the generators from the bus during a fault
and there should be CO2 fire arresting gear in the generation 
hall to combat fires.  Probably the smoke detectors were
faulty  :).

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From: laicheng@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Lai Cheng Lam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: TH WONG, RECIEVED MAIL
Date: 5 Oct 1992 05:45:31 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

First time, eh Lilien?

Like it so far?

Your housemate.
From: tan@cis.ksu.edu (Joo Tan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Need Info about ...
Summary: sending e-mail to IBM in Singapore
Keywords: IBM, pathname.
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:28:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: depot.tan.717953335
Distribution: world
Organization: Kansas State University, Dept. of Computing and Information Sciences
NNTP-Posting-Host: depot.cis.ksu.edu


Hello,

Could someone please tell me if its possible to correspond with
someone working for IBM in Singapore?

If so what is the pathname that I should use to send e-mail to
the person there.


Please respond by sending e-mail to me at:
tan@cis.ksu.edu

Thanks very much.

--Joo Tan
  Kansas State U.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: kytan@mantra.fia.dmg.ml.com (Kok-Yong Tan)
Subject: Re: FOOD!!! (Was Re: Let's cut the crap....)
Organization: Organised?  Here?  Hahahahahahahaha.....
	<1992Sep28.185626.24209@news.ysu.edu>
	<1992Sep28.171100.3422@memstvx1.memst.edu>
	<1992Sep29.031224.3774@cs.cornell.edu>
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:50:49 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.031224.3774@cs.cornell.edu> cwong@cs.cornell.edu (Christopher Yoong-Meng Wong) writes:

>What we *really* need is recipies that can be done overseas. Try looking 
>for assam in Ithaca, NY :-(. Fact is, certain "authentic" M'sian foods are
>almost unmanageble here, doing it the "right" way. How good are you guys/gals
>in improvising? 

This may not apply to you but sometimes, what is difficult to find can be found
if one knows the English equivalent.  In this case, the English term for
"assam" is "tamarind."  You may not be able to get the same type (e.g. the
assam "skin") but for flavour, you can find a substitute in spice bottles.



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From: s897279@otto (Buck YEO)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: NTU E-Mail address
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:41:59 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: otto.bf.rmit.oz.au

I'm trying to locate a friend who is doin' Engineering in NTU.  Unfortunately,
I have only his name and haven't got his log-in ID and e-mail address.
Can someone please tell me the address and also if possible, the way to 
locate him.

Thank you.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: lam@laurel.comm.mot.com (Dan Lam)
Subject: Seek travel advice on Malaysia/Sgpore/Thailand
Organization: Systems Technology Research, Land Mobile Products Sector, Motorola Inc.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:12:40 GMT

Hello netters,

	I am thinking about visiting Singapore-Malaysia-Thainland (or
reverse order) late November/early December.  I have a few questions
which I hope you can help me.

	1.  Rainy season starts November (according to my guide book).
	    Is it true that it does not rain a lot (like all day) and
	    "sun shine" will usually take over?

	2.  Is it easy/convenient to take the train from Singapore to
	    Thailand with stops on the way (like Kuala Lumpur)?

	3.  If train not feasible, is it better for me to book my
	    inter-Asia flights in the United States or wait until I get
	    there?

	4.  Will I be able to get help in Malaysia with my limited Mandarine?
	    (ie:  Are there quite a few Mandarine speaking people in
	    Malaysia?)

If you have any other info please email me at danl@comm.mot.com

Thanks bunch

-Daniel

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From: ustai@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Malaysia to choose F16 or Mig29
Date: 26 Sep 92 02:00:39 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Sep26.041734.6022@en.ecn.purdue.edu>, tenka@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Andy Tenka) writes:
> 
> And also, if Malaysia try to starve the whole Singapore populations by cutting
> off water supply, how would Singapore sustain herself in war?  This is assuming 

	Probably water rationing, stopping industrial usage (except for war
related stuff, of course) of water, and start damming up all the fresh water
sources for their water purifiers.  Might even consider reusing sewage.  For
ex, in some of those new-fangled "energy saving" homes, they reuse the water   
that goes down the kitchen sink for flushing toilet.  And that water is reused
(without the solid waste) once or twice again, before it goes to one of those
"organic decomposers" which, incidentally, also supplies gas (methane) for
cooking.

> ratio of attacker to defender.  And also, logistic will be a big problem in
> such an invasion, as someone else already mentioned (forgot who it was, but
						       ^^^^^^
	You really should try harder to remember.  And yes, you can flame me if
I forget you in the future... :) :)

> he was saying that both Indonesia and Malaysia don't have the capability
> in invading Singapore because of logistic.  I assumed the same holds for
					        ^^^^^^^
	Don't do that.  Remember, it makes an "ass" out of "u" and "me".  Check
with that person first.  Remember, Joe Dwight got flamed for making so many
assumptions...

> Singapore against Malaysia.  Of course, this goes against Lau(?) who says that
							    ^^^
	Nope, it's me, TAI.

> Singapore could take Johor in a surprise attack, but I disgress).

	Not the whole thing, not the whole thing.  Probably can take the water
supply lines tho.  And for every day they can keep it open, they can keep the
war going for another 2 or 3 days.

> I think I am asking legitimate questions, and I hope I will get good answers.

	Well, I hope there are good enough for you.  If anyone can point out
logic flaws or wrong assumptions (heh heh) in my arguments, do let me know.
	Ciao.

-Tai
From: sutrisno@metz.une.edu.au (Sutrisno)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Notebook Prices
Keywords: computers
Date: 7 Oct 92 04:01:21 GMT

Hello,...

Does anyone know the prices for notebook computers in Singapore.
I am looking for 386sx or 386dx.

Thank you for your information.

sincerely yours
==================================================================
Sutrisno
e-mail : metz.une.oz.au
Dept. Ecosystem Management
Univ. of New England, Armidale
NSW 2351, Australia.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: tsuanian@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: FOOD!!! (Was Re: Let's cut the crap....)
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 04:12:03 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.085123.16546@bnr.uk>, bador@bnr.ca (Yasmin Bador) writes:
> I enjoyed the listing on food. Made me VERY homesick though. The best
> cendol ever though must be from K.P (Kuala Pilah) where this mamak makes
> his own cendol (chunky, tasty stuff) and uses gula anau instead of the weak
> gula Melaka.
Weak gula Melaka, WEAK GULA MELAKA, Do you know that in some states
in Malaysia (like Melaka) you could be shot for saying that!
Please,I think gula Melaka is great! (guess where I'm from 8-).
Anyway could somebody out there tell me if its possible to make
lemang without the bamboo?  Surely it's not just 'Pulut' and 
coconut milk cooked under pressure????
Ian
> 
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From: ins877s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (T.H.TAN)
Subject: Read This Only If You Are From Sam Tet
Summary: Looking for Sam Tet old boys.
Keywords: Sam Tet old boys, Ipoh.
Organization: Monash University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:27:01 GMT


Just wondering how many Sam Tet old boys out there are reading this newsgroup.
Yes, I am referring to Sam Tet Secondary School, in Ipoh, Perak, Malaysia. If
you are one of them, thought you might be interested in some news regarding
our good old Sam Tet.

First of all, our kind, respectable and beloved Principal, Rev. Brother John
Moh has already retired. They even had a farewell dinner for Brother in the
school hall, where many old boys, staff and parents turned up to salute our
most respectable Rev. Brother John Moh.

Secondly, for those of you who are still unawared of Sam Tet excellent
performance in 1991 STPM, (ooops, this might be a bit late), amongst
the 72 scholars who got 5As in Malaysia, 24 of them were from Perak (the
most amongst all states), and 11 of them were fellow Sam Tet old boys.
Yes, this is a record, we have made it again after 1987, where 8 Sam
Tet old boys got 5As, a record at that time. 7 others got 4As and 9
got 3As.

Well, guess I better stop. By the way, here in Melbourne we have a 
Sam Tet Old Boys' Association (STOBA), where we meet once a while and
have dinner, or other social activities. So if anyone of you who is 
interested in knowing more about latest happenings in Sam Tet, please
don't hesitate to e-mail me. We have many more ST old boys in Monash, not
to mention Melbourne Uni..

Thanks for reading.

Teong Hooi TAN 
ins877s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au
From: ustai@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Places to go (Was Re: Environment - Singapore)
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:49:25 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Sep29.214718.23886@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mhmann@nyx.cs.du.edu (Me Mann) writes:
> In article <2AC87E89.27693@news.service.uci.edu> cheu@venus.its.uci.edu (Kelvin Cheu) writes:
>>
>>I hope ag@gserv1.dl.ac.uk is not being upset by me.  I've been in the US
>>for 3 years.  No doubt this country has lots of problems but the natural
>>wonder never cease to amaze me.
[munch]
	A good new thread.  Could people with good experiences with touring and
vacationing around make a list of good places to go and visit, and things to do
in their countries?  I for one would definitely like to have access to such a
list.  For example, the best times to visit, etc etc.  I heard that my friend's
father-in-law went to Germany (from Memphis, one of the more expansive places
to fly from) for US$250, round trip.  Was around Thanxgiving time tho.

[munch munch]
>>appreciate nature.  As long as this is not achieved, those places
>>in Malaysia are better kept unpublicised and left for those die-hard
>>travellers who are prepared to hike days through our rain forest to
>>explore them.
> 
[more munchies]
> A very strange argument. You mean Malaysians have to appreciate
> nature  before they can let the world know the wonders and beautiful
> the country posseses? In all segment of society we cannot expect

	No, I think he means that only those who appreciate it should see it. 
See below regarding Dark Cave.  I would agree with his sentiment.

> the is a Malayan Nature Society in Malaysia that publishes books
> on the floral and fauna of M'sia and do related researches...
> the latest of such book is one on the fishes and coral reef in 
> Malaysian water. 

	They also organise trips and tours for interested groups.  They have
chapters in schools, and I onced followed my school's Nature Club to the Dark
Caves at Batu Caves to go spelunking (if you ever wondered about the locked
gates about half way up the stairs of Batu Caves, this is it!)  Was a very
interesting trip.  The guide also told me that he had taken a group from Public
Bank or some such bank (in fact, one group of working people went it with us).
	The spelunking was fun, however, you can see marks and "USTAI WAS HERE"
or "TAI <heart> ME" kinds of things on the natural structures that took nature
thousands and millions of years to form.  Scums.  I am glad MNS has taken over
the administration of the cave.  I believe they are taking over the
administration of lots of such places, like that "hiking trail" over at Kuala
Selangor.  Too bad my school didn't want to organise a night trip there.  Would
have been fun.
> 
> PS: Wonder need not be natural too.  How many of the 
> seven wonders in the world iare man made?

	I believe the most wonderful wonder of all is the wonder of birth.  Man
made too... :) :)  Ciao.

-Tai
Organization: Junior, Social & Decision Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Date: Thu,  1 Oct 1992 21:03:47 -0400 
From: Azleena Salleh <as5h+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: FOOD!!! (Was Re: Let's cut the crap....)
	<1992Oct1.131203.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>

user tsuanian@cc.curtin.edu.a writes:
>Anyway could somebody out there tell me if its possible to make
>lemang without the bamboo?  Surely it's not just 'Pulut' and 
>coconut milk cooked under pressure????
>Ian

Well, I've actually done it by just rolling the (cooked) pulut up in a
cylinder, and putting it in the oven (minus the cylinder, that is) --
not a gourmet version, but just divine for a lemang- and rendang-starved
person like me!


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Azleena Salleh
Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh.

"It is a world completely rotten with wealth, power, senility,
indifference, puritanism and mental hygiene, poverty and waste,
technological futility and aimless violence... and yet I cannot help
but feel it has about it something of the dawning of the universe."
- Jean Baudrillard

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From: chaojira@fraser.sfu.ca (Viboon Chaojirapant)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Test Sent
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:55:41 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

lim@merlion.CWRU.Edu (Hock Koon Lim) writes:


>In article <1992Sep29.033521.9116@news.Hawaii.Edu>, guiyu@spectra (Kui Yu Chang) writes:
>$ Sender	: ZHANG Guiyu
>$ 	: CHANG Kui Yu
>$ 	: Julian 
>$ 	
>$ School	: Nanyang Pri
>$ 	  CHS
>$ 	  HCJC
>$ 	  NTU
>$ 	  UH
>$  
>$ 
>$ 


          ........stuffs deleted......... 
>  
>"Old boy" of CHS and HCJC,
             ^^^^^

    It is nice to see that there are CHS's old boys in the net. 


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