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From: odin@cats.ucsc.edu (Jon Granrose)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.os.os2.networking
Subject: Novell-Novell modem link (was Lan Manager/Novell modem link?)
Keywords: Microsoft Lan Manager Novell Netware modem argh
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:33:10 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu



As an alternative to trying to get Lan Manager to talk to Netware,
I'm looking into upgrading our Lan Manager server to Netware.

The Novell people said it would be possible with a program called
PTS299 available on Compuserve (and probably on the net somewhere as well).
I'm interested in hearing what it does and how it works.  So if anyone
out there has had any experience with this, I'd appreciate hearing of it.
I'm told this is the only asynchronous (i.e. not using a leased line)
option available for connecting two Netware servers.

Any input appreciated.  Thanks.

Jon

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From: bob@comlab.gatech.edu (Bob Baggerman)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Re: Lan Manager/Novell modem link?
Keywords: Microsoft Lan Manager Novell Netware modem argh
Date: 12 Sep 92 20:43:41 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Mark Medici writes:
>There's a couple of problems with this.  1st, as I understand it, ka9q
>is an IP router.  Novell runs IPX/SPX while LanMan is, I believe,
>NetBIOS based.  Worse, I seem to recall that NetBIOS is a non-routable
>protocol.  However, you can tunnel (wrap) Novell packets in IP
>packets, so ka9q (or any other dedicated router) can route them.  I
>also believe that software exists to allow NetBIOS to tunnel in IP,
>for the same effect.

I am responding to this because there seems to be a common misconception
about NetBIOS.  For some reason many people have this notion that NetBIOS
is a protocol when, in fact, it is a programming interface.  LAN Manager
along with a lot of other PC network products "talks" to the NetBIOS 
programming interface.  The actual protocol on the wire can be anything.
Microsoft calls there NetBIOS protocol NetBEUI.  Other protocols that can
be used for NetBIOS transport include TCP/IP, OSI, XNS, NBP, IPX, and 
maybe some others.  So when your network expert tells you NetBIOS isn't
routable, or needs to be tunnelled, or says anything else about the format
of the data on the wire without talking about the specific NetBIOS transport
prototol then go find yourself another network expert.  In the case of 
LAN Manager, Microsoft provides two protocols: 1) NetBEUI which is small,
fast, and non-routable and 2) RFC1001/1002 TCP/IP NetBIOS which is, well,
TCP/IP with all the rights and privileges that go along with IP.  Note,
there is no need to "tunnel" as with Novell.  LAN Manager and other NOS's
that use the NetBIOS interface can use any protocol they see fit from
any of there favorite vendors like FTP Software, Wollongong, etc.  Neat!

>The real problem is getting these two servers to talk to each other
>or, more accurately, getting the client workstations on each side to
>be able to access both the NetWare and LanMan servers.  I've read that
>this is possible, but it doesn't look like fun and you don't have a
>lot of memory available when you're done.

With LAN Manager 2.1 Microsoft provides an IPX/SPX interface for your
Novell redirector and stack to use along with the LAN Manager stack and
redirector.  It probably takes up a bit of memory when you get them all 
loaded but NDIS 2.0 supports dynamic loading and unloading of protocol
stacks drivers can be moved in and out of memory as needed.  I haven't
actually tried it.  I generally try to avoid Novell.  But it looks pretty
simple from the installation documents.

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
From: sgccsns@citec.oz.au (Shane Noel Smith 2245702)
Subject: GOSIP
Organization: CITEC
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 05:28:47 GMT

Hello,


I am trying to find out some information regarding the implementation
of the OSI  transport layer 4 being available for Ingres*Net and
if anyone has a commitment from Ingres to GOSIP standards of any country.



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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.os.os2.networking
From: dcarr@gandalf.ca (Dave Carr)
Subject: Re: Lan Manager/Novell modem link?
Keywords: Microsoft Lan Manager Novell Netware modem argh
Organization: Gandalf Data Ltd.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:48:12 GMT

In <18ls8cINN8g4@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> odin@cats.ucsc.edu (Jon Granrose) writes:

>And while I'm here.  What is the highest speed you can get via modem over
>non-leased lines?  Is it still 9600 with compression taking it to 19.2k?

Highest available standard modems are V.32 bis at 14.4k.  With V.42 bis
data compression, this is somewhat higher.  Your mileage will vary.

There is another standard in the works, V.fast which will go to 28.8k
uncompressed.  Some manufacturers have jumped the gun and released their
flavours of the "standard".  No doubt compression will be an option.
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: IBM-MAC LANS
From: lebowitz@krypton.Mankato.MSUS.EDU (Robert J. Lebowitz)
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:05:45
Distribution: comp
Organization: Mankato State University

Our department would like to install a simple LAN that can link both our
Macintosh and IBM PC users on a single system.  I am aware that Appletalk 
can be used on PCs by purchasing a special card, but now I've heard that there
will be a new Appletalk-like system available for Windows machines in a few
months.  

1.  Please post suggestions on how we can provide basic communications and 
shared use of peripherals on a system with these two types of machines,

2.  Is my information about the Windows system accurate?  Can Macs be 
connected to such an LAN?

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From: div@NAD.3Com.COM (Dinesh Venkatachalam x5498)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Re: Best EtherNet LAN Card
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:59:22 GMT
Reply-To: div@NAD.3Com.COM
Organization: 3Com Corp

In article 40000@camb.com, bruce@camb.com (Barton F. Bruce) writes:
>In article <1322@bridge2.NSD.3Com.COM>, div@NAD.3Com.COM (Dinesh Venkatachalam x5498) writes:
>> 
>> Try the EtherLink III ( 3c509 Coax or TP ) card which 3com recently introduced.
>> It certainly meets the simplest/easiest/cheapest to use criteria. 
>
>But sadly 3COM really missed the boat. They could have made it 'THE' only card
>to buy for folks with mixed (as in VERY) 10Base-T/10Base-2 environments.
>If they had only made ONE card do both - they could have left out the AUI port
>for all I would care.
>
>As it is, you have to buy the card you think you need, and when that staff
>person's desk moves, you have to go in and swap cards if the new location
>has the other cable. 
>
>Fortunately there are other brands that have noticed customer's quandry.


The Combo TP + Coax adapter for ISA without the AUI port would be available from
3COM in a short period of time. Once the design for TP or Coax is working, it is
trivial to change it for a Combo solution. The delay in introducing the product is
the extensive testing cycles the board has to go through to meet production standards
( typically 4 months )

...Dinesh
From: sichermn@beach.csulb.edu (Jeff Sicherman)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: SNMP specs
Date: 13 Sep 92 01:23:54 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach


  Where can I get fairly comprehensive specifications on SNMP ?
Books, articles, papers, etc.



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From: div@NAD.3Com.COM (Dinesh Venkatachalam x5498)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Re: Best EtherNet LAN Card
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:39:51 GMT
Reply-To: div@NAD.3Com.COM
Organization: 3Com Corp


Try the EtherLink III ( 3c509 Coax or TP ) card which 3com recently introduced.
It certainly meets the simplest/easiest/cheapest to use criteria. 


...Dinesh


P.S: What kind of LAN / Software are we talking about ?

P.P.S: I apologize if I am not supposed to endorse my companys product on the net
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.os.os2.networking
From: Dirk.Rode@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Dirk Rode)
Subject: Re: Lan Manager/Novell modem link?
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 07:15:36 GMT
Keywords: Microsoft Lan Manager Novell Netware modem argh

Shalom,

 I think, connecting two LANs via Modem is to slow to work on.

 But what I know is that you will need a Router. This may be a dedicated
PC running KA9Q, SLIP etc. You must connect such a PC to the
existing LAN and to the Telephone net via Modem - or better -
via ISDN. Its better to use ISDN because of the speed. In both
cases an automatic dialup will be made when needed.

regards Dirk
Xref: sparky comp.dcom.lans.misc:736 comp.os.os2.networking:1311
From: tsjoit@htsa.aha.nl (T. H. Tsim)
Subject: How to interconnect a LAN ?
Organization: Algemene Hogeschool Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 11:14:17 GMT

 
Dear netters,
 
I am looking for comments for this problem:
 
I want to connect a LAN of PC's with a remote SCO Unix Host:
The Lan is working with Novell's Netware.
 
W -|
   |
W -|
   |
W -|-H--^........^--Unix
   |
W -|                    W=workstation
   |                    H=Novellserver
W -|                    U=SCO Unix
 
I was thinking of using two bridges (but I don't have experience with bridges)
in order to 'bridge' the distance through x.25 or leased line. Could someone
give me some usefull hints ?
 
The second part I'm not familiar to is how to connect the workstations with
the Unix-Host, after a lot of thinking, browsing and studying, I think TCP/IP
could be a good solution.
 
But again, I lack of practical knowledge, in order to enable coexistance of
IPX and TCP/IP. I've heard of ODI-drivers, packet-drivers,machine requirements,
SLIP and PPP. After a lot of studying documents and books, I still can't see
the whole picture of the puzzle (maybe some pieces are missing ?)
 
So please, give me some comments, critics, information to indicate I'm one the
right track (or not).
 
I'm a student on co-op assignment :-)
 
 
Greetings from Holland
From: bob@comlab.gatech.edu (Bob Baggerman)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Re: Best EtherNet LAN Card
Date: 9 Sep 92 12:59:19 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

div@NAD.3Com.COM writes:
> P.P.S: I apologize if I am not supposed to endorse my companys product on 
> the net

The approach taken by better vendors who have a presence on the net is to
provide *complete* information to general requests for information.  For
example you might have said "3Com makes X, SMC makes Y, and D-Link makes Z,
and we're pretty proud of ours so you might want to take a look."  One of
the best vendors in this regard IMHO is FTP Software.  As a consumer of 
Usenet, I prefer informative messages rather than single sided advertisements.
And I think it is more in the spirit of this news group.

Having read what I have just written, I don't want anyone to confuse this
for a flame.  It is just a humble suggestion so take it for what it's worth,
which probably isn't much.  8-)

Bob

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From: bruce@camb.com (Barton F. Bruce)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Re: Best EtherNet LAN Card
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:01:41 EDT
Organization: Cambridge Computer Associates, Inc.

In article <1322@bridge2.NSD.3Com.COM>, div@NAD.3Com.COM (Dinesh Venkatachalam x5498) writes:
> 
> Try the EtherLink III ( 3c509 Coax or TP ) card which 3com recently introduced.
> It certainly meets the simplest/easiest/cheapest to use criteria. 

But sadly 3COM really missed the boat. They could have made it 'THE' only card
to buy for folks with mixed (as in VERY) 10Base-T/10Base-2 environments.
If they had only made ONE card do both - they could have left out the AUI port
for all I would care.

As it is, you have to buy the card you think you need, and when that staff
person's desk moves, you have to go in and swap cards if the new location
has the other cable. 

Fortunately there are other brands that have noticed customer's quandry.
From: ivo@encap.hanse.de (Ivo Neumann)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Action technologies' Coordinator II
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:16:10 GMT
Organization: Private site in the north of Germany.


    Does  anybody know  something about  a product  called "The Coordinator
    Version II" from Action Technologies?

    I'm interested in following issues:

    a) who is distributing this product in Europe?

    b) what reputation has Action Technologies Inc in the U.S. and the rest
    of the world?

    c) what is the price for this product?

    d) I've heard  that Action Technologies Inc has  developed MHS which is
    now licensed by Novell and others? Is this true?

    e)  what  is  the  number   of  installations  of  The  Coordinator  II
    world-wide?

    f) Please  tell me just  everything  what  you know  about it, I'm very
    interested in the area of workflow technologies.

    Thank you in advance
	       Ivo
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From: greg@iphasew.com (Greg Bulman)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: disk/file servers vs. number crunchers
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:51:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Interphase (West) Corporation, Santa Clara, CA

Sorry for any duplicataion but I posted this to comp.dcom.servers but it
met with no responses at all.  In fact that whole newsgroup hardly sees
any traffic at all but that group seemed more appropriate ... at the time.

I've got a question reqarding a "flat" DOS network.  For simplistic needs
and cost benefits I'm selecting Lantastic networking software.  My real
question regards what DOS systems to use as disk servers and which DOS
systems to use as computational workhorses.

I'll have (2) DOS 80386-33Mz machines and (2) 80286-16Mz machines connected
together.  My first response, due to media hype, is to use the "POWER"
machines as my disk servers, for fast data and application file access.
After thinking about it though, I won't have more than 3 people on at a given
time, and really, disk writes won't be unimaginably frequent.  I'll be
running accounting software (probably exclusively) so the computational
speeds are going to be critical.  So, I thought maybe I'd want the older
machines to be disk servers and have the CPU power of the 386 machines
available for the accounting software.

For those running DOS networks and/or disk servers I request some expertise.
(I already gotten conflicting responses from "salepeople", so thought I'd go
into the field.)   What are the advantages/disadvantages of using the 286
for a file server and 386 for applications?  What about doing the opposite?

Thanks in Advance.
-greg
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Xref: sparky comp.dcom.lans.misc:746 comp.dcom.lans.ethernet:1914
From: mkain@asns.tredydev.unisys.com (Mike Kain)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: Clarkson Driver needed
Keywords: Clarkson, EXOS
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:56:14 GMT
Organization: Unisys Corporation, Tredyffrin Engineering Offices


Does anyone know if the Clarkson Drivers contain one for the EXCELAN EXOS
205-10T card?  I have the 9X version, and I don't see it.  Many thanks in
advance.

-- 

 Mike Kain                              | Unisys Corporation            
 mkain@asns.tredydev.unisys.com         | Tredyffrin, PA Engineering Offices 
Xref: sparky comp.dcom.lans.misc:729 comp.os.os2.networking:1287
From: bob@comlab.gatech.edu (Bob Baggerman)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.os.os2.networking
Subject: Re: Lan Manager/Novell modem link?
Keywords: Microsoft Lan Manager Novell Netware modem argh
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:01:44 GMT
Followup-To: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Jon Granrose writes:
>I'm in a bit of a pickle, to say the least.  I have to link our two offices
>in California and Massachusetts via _dialup_ (no leased lines).  Here in
>sunny CA we are running Microsoft Lan Manager.  MA is running Novell
>Netware (3.11 I assume).  I have to get them talking to each other.

There is an outfit in Canada that has just announced a MAC level NDIS driver
that talks to the serial port.  The idea being that you can replace your
ethernet or token ring NDIS driver with this serial driver with the higher
level drivers being oblivious to the fact.  Of course time-out parameters
and such would need to be tuned.  Since this is a MAC level driver it 
should pass any and all protocols equally well.

This may or may not do you any good.  But if you need any more information
let me know.  I left the details on this new product in my briefcase which
I then left at home.  8-(  I'll probably be putting the product announcement
on "comlab.gatech.edu" in the "/pub/lanman" directory if you or anyone else
wants to take a look.  Or I could post a brief summary to the net if there
is any general interest in this.

Bob

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Xref: sparky comp.dcom.lans.misc:733 alt.sources.wanted:1481 comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted:6097
From: tgtcmv@rwa.urc.tue.nl (Martien Verbruggen)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc,alt.sources.wanted,comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted
Subject: LAN games
Date: 11 Sep 92 08:56:59 GMT
Reply-To: tgtcmv@urc.tue.nl
Followup-To: comp.dcom.lans.misc

Hello,

I was wondering if there are any games (there must be) that can be played on a
LAN network. I mean each player on another node, with the game on the network
server or something like that. 
Especially software written for LANTASTI would be appreciated.

Please mail me directly, because I don't read all newsgroups I posted this to.

Thanks.
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc,comp.unix.ultrix,vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: olivert@glance.ch (Oliver J. Tschichold)
Subject: Again: Ultrix Pathworks as LanMan-Server?
Followup-To: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Reply-To: olivert@glance.ch (Oliver Tschichold)
Organization: Glance Ltd., CH-8162 Steinmaur
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 14:41:59 GMT

Is it possible to configure the Ultrix Pathworks Server in a way that 
LanManager clients can use its file services via TCP/IP? If so, what
needs to be changed? Is this illegal, if possible?

I'm posting this question for the second time now, please excuse the 
cross-postings.

Please reply via news or mail, I'm glad about any information. 
I'll summarize if there is more interest than so far.

Thanks
Oliver
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From: klitd@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Raj PUBALA)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 16:06:26 GMT
Subject: Re: How to interconnect a LAN ?
Organization: HP Singapore Notes-Server
From: Michael.Bravo@f2.n5030.z2.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: ArtiSoft e-mail address?
Date: 3 Sep 92 06:16:16 GMT
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Aug 21 1992

Hello All!

Anyone have _any_ E-mail address for ArtiSoft (Lantastic makers)?

/\/\ike

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From: nol2321@dsacg4.dsac.dla.mil (Jim Dunn)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Re: Best Ethernet LAN Card
Keywords: ethernet lan card best
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:38:03 GMT
Organization: Defense Logistics Agency Systems Automation Center, Columbus

I have a friend who wants to setup a lan using some software he already has.
My question is, which lan card would be the simplest/easiest/cheapest to
use?  (normal easy question...)

:)
Thanks
Jim, jdunn@dsac.dla.mil
From: bjpst5+@pitt.edu (Bryan J Petty)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Converting 3server to Novell 3.11?
Date: 10 Sep 92 08:08:40 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


  We have three 3com 3server/386's (don't recall model #'s right now..)
  and we'd like to make them useful. We're converting one to LanManager,
  and want to convert the other two to Novell servers. Has anyone out    
  there tried this? Any help/ comments would be appreciated... 
           thanks, Bryan  
                          bjpst5@lis.pitt.edu