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From: pwatkins@med.unc.edu (Pat Watkins)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Century Products phone #?
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:39:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Originator: pwatkins@pelham

Could somene please email a phone number
for Century Products. I want to call them
about a stroller I just bought. 
(I have the 800 # for the car seat recall info,
but that just gets a recording.)
Thanks to anyone who can help me out!
Pat

pwatkins@med.unc.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: Re: night time diapers
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:30:45 GMT

>In article <1ee26tINNn8b@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> vicki@mathcs.emory.edu (Vicki Powers) writes:
>>I was wondering if those Pull-Ups hold more than a regular disposable diaper.
>>My daughter likes to go to bed with a bottle of water (it's her favorite
>>comfort object!) and if I don't change her diaper when I go to bed she wakes
>>up soaking wet, with soaked pajamas, sheets, etc.  The only problem is that

For us, the Pull-Ups were an expensive waste of money.  They do NOT hold even
AS MUCH as a regular diaper.  I think they're mainly for daytime use when a
child is trying to potty train.  We went back to using cloth and got lucky in
that our son didn't like the discomfort of a wet cloth diaper against him.

We're even more lucky now in that we put our son to bed at around 8-8:30,
get him up to go to the bathroom around 11:00 when we hit the hay, and he
then sleeps through the night w/o any problems.  In the past 8 months, he's
only had one accident.  We never pushed him into potty training, but got the
book about training which has Jimmy for the boys and Sarah for the girls.
Additionally, our son has a huge poster just COVERED with all sorts of 
different stickers he's received for going potty in the toilet.

allen
From: janeth@hpcuhc.cup.hp.com (Janet Helmbolt)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:34:15 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: 20 month old: disrobing
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: misc.kids

To the parent who has a 20 month old who likes to disrobe, particularly at
bedtime.  It is good to be concerned about the cold weather and your child
being cold at night.  I have always worried about this with my son, also 20
months.  What I have found that before the colder weather set in we would alwaysfind him without his covers on him in the morning.  I worried he was getting too
cold.  But now that the house is much cooler at night he keeps his covers very
much on him.  We went out and bought him some of those blanket sleepers, the
one piece kind with feet in them.  The sleeper zips up the front.  Perhaps you
could get some blanket sleepers and then pin the top of the zipper so it could
not be unzipped.

Also, I would highly recommend that you take your child with you shopping when
yet get some blanket sleeper pajamas and let them choose which one(s) he/she
wants.  This is incentive to liking/enjoying their pajamas.  We bought my son
a Barney blanket sleeper pj and we never have any problem getting him into it
because he likes Barney no much.  I have found that Penneys carries a number of
different motifes (Sesame Street, Barney, generic) in pajamas that maybe your
child would like.  Of course, you will have to find out what is available i
your area.

If your child still insists on disrobing in bed you might consider putting in
a child size down comfortor.  When it gets cold enough your child will cover
up.

Good luck.

Jan Helmbolt
From: cindy@berkp.uadv.uci.edu (Cindy Windham)
Subject: Re: >>>> a new fun thread??..kids looking like parents
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Organization: University Advancement, University of Calif., Irvine
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:16:19 GMT

In article <ssimmons.722455522@convex.convex.com> ssimmons@convex.com (Steve Simmons) writes:


>>
>>My 3 1/2yo son has blonde hair, a fair complexion, and hazel eyes.
>>I'm of Japanese ancestry - both of my parents are Japanese (born in
>>California), and all of my grandparents were Japanese (born in Japan).
>>My husband is Caucasian (Welsh to Native American and almost everything
>>else in between).  I'm no biologist, but I thought that this was
>>impossible, since dark hair and dark eyes are dominant.
>>

>Actually, the straight black Asian hair is also a recessive gene. Same
>with the typical black pupils. I am just curious if he has single or 
>double eyelids??? 

Both of my children have double eyelids (I had to visit a surgeon to
get mine!  oh please don't flame me, I was very young at the time!)
The blonde son has slightly almond shaped eyes, whereas my dark-haired
son has large, round eyes.

>Most Amerasian kids have American hair and eyes, dark yellowish complexion,
>double eyelids and the bigger American build.  In fact, the American 
>facial features also dominate although there does tend to be a slant in
>the eyes. Well, I get to find out next week. My wife is expecting 1-Dec-92. 
>She's from Hong Kong and I am from Connecticut. 

>Thank you. 
> 
>                                       Steve Simmons
From: traite@eros.harvard.edu (Shirley Traite)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Imaginary friends
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:59:42 GMT
Organization: Statistical & Data Analysis Center, Harvard University

In article <1992Nov23.003838.26194@ulysses.att.com> smb@ulysses.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes:
>Sigh.  What do you do when your 3 YO son insists that you invite his
>imaginary friend over for a play date?  Fortunately, he didn't throw
>a tantrum over the issue....

 Why didn't you invite the imaginary friend over?  At three, children
are *expected* to have imaginary  friends.  It's a sign of a creative
mind.  (Now if you had a 17 yo who had an imaginary friend THEN that
might be a problem. :) )  

My Best.
___
Shirley Traite (traite@sdac.harvard.edu) |I only speak for myself.
Statistical Programmer                   |
SDAC/Biostatistics Dept.                 |
Harvard Sch. of Public Health            |

<> IT IS A VIRTUE TO HAVE AN OPEN AND INQUISITIVE MIND. <>
From: judyd@rosebud.CNA.TEK.COM (Judy E. Drake)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: babies pulling long hair
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:36:51 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Redmond,  OR.


In article <1992Nov20.115242.18777@pts1.pts.mot.com>, alice_bertelson@pts.mot.com (ALICE BERTELSON X2572 P7331) writes:
|> >
|> >Oh!  So that explains why all new mommies who used to have long hair
|> >get it chopped short!  I was always curious about this "phenomenon",
|>  
|> There's hope still!! I have a 4YO boy and a 16MO girl and my hair
|> is down to may waist - and as I am 5' 10" tall that`s about 2.5 ft
|> of hair!!! (another hubby with a fettish about long hair!!)

What is this thing about men and long hair??  I had long hair for years,
caving in to pressure from the various men in my life.  My husband 
would protest vehemently when I threatened to cut my hair.  I myself
had no particular attachment to the stuff, and always worried that
it would become my most prominent feature ("Oh, yes, Judy Drake.  She's
the one with the wild hair."  These words were actually said.)

In my case, having kids coincided with standing up to my husband about
my hair, which resulted in getting it cut short (I mean short--I told
my hairdresser to cut it just long enough so it doesn't stick straight
up.)  It was a coincidence, but the short hair does work well with kids.  
I look better, too.  My husband got over it.

Short hair really has its advantages.  For the first time in my life,
I could go skiing and not have all my hair stick to my lip balm.

I figured there are two secrets in life that men have been reserving 
for themselves.  I have discovered them and now won't give them up.
They are:  1) comfortable shoes and 2) short hair.

Judy Drake

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: kapa@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (k.a.perkins)
Subject: Re: Things My Parents Did Right
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:27:36 GMT
Summary: depends on how they fight

In article <BxzCrw.LBv@inews.Intel.COM>, vnoronha@dagwood.intel.com (Valerie Noronha) writes:
> 
> In article <1egkrbINNppm@morrow.stanford.edu>,
> CT.LVA@forsythe.stanford.edu (Linda Apperson) writes:
> |> 2. Never yelled at each other, or argued, or criticized each other in
> |> front of the kids.
> |> >>
> |> >>*Never?!*  I think disagreement is only natural.
> |>  My folks never argued in front of the kids and as a result, none of
> |> the four of us are any good at dealing with anger or disagreements.
> |>  We all tend to avoid them at any cost...from a deep seated belief
> |> that "people who love each other don't fight".  I wish I'd grown
> |> up seeing that disagreements happen and can be resolved.
> 
> I think it depends on how well the parents handle disagreements more than
> an issue of whether or not to have them.
< description of parents who set a bad example in the way they fought >

I have to agree with Valerie here.  My parents had disagreements, some
in front of us and some that involved us, and we kids had disagreements
with them, and *nothing* in those disagreements taught me anything
positive about how to have a difference of opinion with someone else,
or how to resolve such a difference except by giving in or having a
temper tantrum until you got your way.

However, you get to a point where you can't keep saying, "I am this
(non optimum) way because of my parents."  I have had several classes
and read several books, mostly in connection with my job, on how to
resolve conflicts in a positive way, where both parties come away
with what they need out of a situation, or where they agree to disagree
in a civilized way, without much wailing or gnashing of teeth, and I
would recommend that people who don't like the way they resolve
conflicts or deal with other issues, do something about it, whether
it be to just decide that from this day forward you will be different,
or read books/take classes to learn a new way, or ask others for
help, like we do all of the time on the net.

Kate Perkins
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: JUTTA.LAGE@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Jutta Lage")
Subject: What do you do when your kid things Metallica is cool?
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:20:54 GMT

My daughter is a heavy metal fanatic. Actually Metallica is her favourite group
and I let her go to a concert last September. She loved it. She actually has
loved this kind of head banging music for about a year. She tells me what she
thinks about certain songs and even interprets them. It also inspired her to
take up electric bass which she has become really good at and the music school
just recently asked her if she wanted to audition for a heavy metal group (all
girls of the same age...13 and 14). I don't mind it that much...only sometimes
the loud music is annoying and I have to tell her to turn it down...
I once in a while pick up one of those heavy metal music magazines for her and
read articles about Metallica and other bands myself. Metallica is sometimes
misinterpreted by many... And then I remember when I grew up and my friends and
I used to listen to Alice Cooper (remember he pretended to behead snakes on sta
ge and stuff like that...), and Black Sabbath (isn't Ozzy Osborne still around
moaning and groaning on stage and 'pretending' to sacrifice animals here and th
ere...weird eh...). Anyway, I am sure many of you listened to them way back the
n. Nothing has really changed. Let the kids choose their own music...and suppor
t them if you dare...and as one of you said before: Keep the communications cha
nnels open! - Jutta
From: liu@flamingo.Corp.Sun.COM (Marianne Liu, Corp. Consolidations x67907)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: washing detergents
Date: 19 Nov 1992 23:31:03 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: liu@flamingo.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: flamingo.corp.sun.com



Our pediatrician told us not to use Ivory Snow, don't remember why.
Tide is fine, he said.  So we've been washing the girls clothes with
ours since day 1.  With our white clothes though.


marianne

>From cma@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (christine.m.dakes)
Subject: Re: washing detergents
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:48:50 GMT


I have sensitive skin and we use cheer-free for the laundry.  Would this
be ok for baby clothes?  Or would Ivory Snow be better?  Anyone
with babies sensitive to Ivory Snow detergent?

Christine
first-time-mom-2-b 1/1/9/93
From: hough@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Susan Hough)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Advice needed-first plane trip
Date: 17 Nov 1992 17:22:36 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: earth.gps.caltech.edu
Summary: advice worth saying in public(?)

In article <1992Nov17.133724.19227@cas.org> jdb26@YP.sparcm1 writes:
>We're taking our 15 month old on his first plane trip this weekend.
>I have a feeling it could be 3 hours of hell!!  Any advice on how
>to him occupied or help with ear popping???  I'd like to hear what
>other people's experiences have been.  Even if my fears are realized, it
>will still be better than 2 days in a car!

There are various standard bits of advice for young children on
plane trips--e.g., having food that the child likes to eat, a couple of
new toys, and bottles (or a breast ;o)  ) handy to help ears
equilibrate.  It also can help to let a toddler toddle around the
isles if at all possible.

But my best advice (having flown on 8 cross-country and 2 trans-atlantic
flights with a young child in the last two years) is:  RELAX.  What's
the worst that can happen?  Your child will scream for 3 hrs straight
and several people whom you don't know will give you some very
dirty looks.  Or, the plane could be delayed & your child will scream
for 5 hrs straight and several people whom you don't know will give
you some _extremely_ dirty looks.  In all likelihood, they will survive,
as will you.  

I'm all for taking reasonable precautions to keep one's child 
happy & to not intrude on other people's airspace. But 
I have gotten to where I refuse to be bullied or guilt-tripped 
because my young child is acting like a young child.      

Have fun!

Sue
From: alainew@mentorg.com (Alaine Warfield)
Subject: Ivory Snow and sleepwear (was: washing detergents)
Summary: 
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:28:39 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics Corporation; Beaverton, Oregon
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

> Our pediatrician told us not to use Ivory Snow, don't remember why.

Using soaps (like Ivory Snow) destroys the flame-retardent properties
of sleepwear.

Detergents are ok.
From: nola@cats.ucsc.edu (Nola Van Vugt)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: 7 mo old pulling hair
Date: 23 Nov 1992 01:56:38 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


In article <1eodrqINNnpo@network.ucsd.edu> dlin@weber.ucsd.edu (Diane Lin) writes:
>In article <1992Nov20.235413.2533455@locus.com> judy@locus.com (Judy Leedom Tyrer) writes:
>
>>Well, I'm not sure how glad you'll be to take this suggestion, but have you
>>tried pulling back?
>>[...]
>>So, when pulling my hair became a way to get a rise out of mom, as it did for
>>both my children, I showed them what it felt like.  I grabbed their hair and


>this problem has a 7-month old baby.  I seriously doubt that babies
>that young understand anything about cause and effect, or
>consequences, or most importantly, empathy.  Rather, I think the
>message that is received is quite isolated: "hey, why is Mom hurting me?"  
>This advice probably would work with a toddler, though the fact that
>Erin persists in playing this "game" raises questions about its
>effectiveness as a teaching tool.

I have heard of this approach being used with children who bite--"I
just bite them back and then they know how it feels!"  It has always
appeared to be singularly ineffective (judging from the subsequent 
behavior of the biter) and it seemed to me that what the parent had 
actually succeeded in teaching the child was that grownups, too, 
indulge in this sort of behavior.  Since our children are learning 
by imitating us, I would think that the message is less than clear to
the child.
I found it easier to just not wear earrings (which they also grab at)
and keep my hair pulled back or cut short, so I could concentrate on
keeping my glasses on my face.  Babies also love to pull beards at
that age so my husband, who has a beard, and kept it trimmed quite
short during this phase, wouldn't have dared to object to my cutting
my hair. (Not that he'd dare anyway ;-)  )
nvv
 
Newsgroups: misc.kids,connect.audit
From: jerus@ibmpcug.co.uk (Jeremy Ruston)
Subject: Rude things they say (2yrs old)
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Distribution: connect
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:08:25 GMT

When my son Fergus was about 3 months old he was an object of fascination
for his older sister, Emily (about 2 years old at the time).  I'll never
forget one foul winter evening when she was sitting next to a carefully
propped up Fergus on the sofa.  He gave a little cough which Emily obviously
felt needed some commentary for her.  However, being unable to say anything
as complicated as "Oh, look, Fergus has just coughed" all she could manage
was "Fer cough" ... try saying it out loud ;)

Our great mistake was to laugh which made her repeat her joke again, which
made us laugh all the more, and so on and on.  It ain't easy being a parent.

Regards from wintry Hertfordshire UK,

Jeremy Ruston.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: dma9w@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Dawn M. Adelsberger-Mangan)
Subject: Shareware for children
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:42:08 GMT

  Can anyone provide me with information on ftp sites for educational
shareware ?  In particular I am interested in software for a 4 yr old.
  Thanks in advance.

          Dawn Adelsberger-Mangan
          dma9w@virginia.edu

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: barb@sq.sq.com (Barbara Burrows)
Subject: Re: 7 mo old pulling hair
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 19:54:55 GMT

In article <3944@wyse.wyse.com> donna@wyse.wyse.com (Donna Diloreto x2231 dept302) writes:
>OK, I've just about had it!  I'm about ready to make an appointment to get
>my hair cut off (hair that I've been growing for 3 years because my hubby
>has this THING about long hair).  At 7 months, Paul still loves to YANK
>(and I mean really YANK) at my hair to the point of me screaming.   Before
>I get to the "what-did-you-do-to-your-hair?" stage, can anyone tell me
>at what age babies STOP pulling mommy's hair?  I've tried putting my
>hair in a pony tail, but he still manages to grab a few strands.  Any other
>suggestions will be gladly taken.
>
>Donna

	Okay.  When you're done helping Donna....tell me how to stop
	my 13 month old from butting everything and everyone with his
	head!!!!  This just started about a week ago and it's driving
	me crazy.  I'm very watchful now when I pick him up....he's
	likely to suddenly bang his head into my breastbone...or face...
	or nose....really exciting.  I've been basically saying "NO!"
	quite vehemently and putting him down and walking away.  This
	makes him cry....but, so far....he hasn't seemed to realize
	the connection between the two.....butting....being put down...
	quickly!  I'll pick him back up....we'll look into each others
	eyes....I'll say "that's not nice" while shaking my head...he'll
	shake his head "no" too....and then, without warning (I think
	I've got his number now though and am mostly too quick for
	him) he'll do it again!

	Oh....and when do they stop eating books?

	And when do they stop pulling everything out of the cupboards?

	And when do they stop splashing in the toilet?

	I could probably go on......he certainly does.....and
	darn cutely too!

					|
Barbara					|  The trouble with real life
					|  is there's no plot.
					|




Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: lcheap@cac.washington.edu (Laurel Cheap )
Subject: Re: flower girl dress needed
Organization: UW Computing
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:12:14 GMT

In article <BxvJty.6pr@plato.ds.boeing.com> simnet@ssc-bee.uucp (Aileen Hsu) writes:
>  My daughter has just been asked to be the flower girl in my sister-in-law's
>wedding.  I went out yesterday to look for a white dress for her to
>wear for the wedding, the only ones I found cost $70-$100.  I think
>this is too much for something she can only wear for a couple times
>during one season. . . .

Try JCPenney's - I've seen white Christening/baptism dresses and
outfits for $30-40.

Good luck,
Laurel
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Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Drugs for noses (was Re: vaporizer, anyone?  replaces decongestant
From: sietsma@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Jocelyn Sietsma Penington)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:41:07 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia
Keywords: antihistamine, chlorphenaramine maleate

In article <1ebngkINNr74@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch) writes:
>
>(poor results with vapourizer deleted)
>My conclusion has been--drugs are WONDERFUL! The difference in Will 
>before getting a dose of Tylenol and after getting it was remarkable. The 
>Pediacare (pseudoephedrine, essentially infant Sudafed) helped a lot, too, 
>but it made him more wakeful. Are there other decongestants for infants that 
>have less of this stimulant effect?
>
>If I take decongestants during a cold, it prevents a sinus infection. If I 
>don't do that, I find that decongestants clear up a bacterial sinus infection 
>in me just as quickly as antibiotics do, and without the inevitable yeast 
>infections that antibiotics cause. This makes me think that it could be wise 
>to give Will decongestants (as well as the vaporizer) as soon as he develops 
>a cold, to prevent an ear infection. It works for me, but I hesitate to 
>routinely give Will a drug with such an unfortunate side effect (we both 
>need him to sleep when he's sick). How do you prevent ear infections in a 
>baby?
>
>Paula Burch
>pburch@bcm.tmc.edu

Sudafed with antihistamine, and HeadClear, both contain two main ingredients
pseudoephedrine and chlorpheniramine maleate (what a mouthful!).  
Pseudoephidrine appears to have two main effects: drying the nasal passages
and making you feel awake.
The other ingredient is an antihistamine, which also tends to dry the nasal
passages and which has a strong tendency to put you to sleep!  This works
very well for me and some other people I've recommended it to (except when
they need to be alert), but others who have sinus headaches but not runny
noses find it to be no help.
In Australia, chlorphenaramine maleate is sold under the brand name Piriton
and is available from chemists if you ask.  I would expect it to be available
in the US - ask your doctor.
I don't have any children yet, so I know nothing about warnings for them,
but when I asked about taking it during pregnancy my obstetrician said
its the best antihistamine to use, with no ill effects.

I hope this might help

regards
       Jocelyn.
From: linda@linda.intel.com (Linda Harbin)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Mail order company packaging (was Re: Brio Compatible Thomas trains)
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:02:29 GMT
Reply-To: linda@linda.intel.com (Linda Harbin)
Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon

In article <1992Nov21.141127.3652@astrals.portal.com>, shams@astrals.portal.com (Sharon Zakhour) writes:
|> I just received a package from a company in Vermont that used a new kind  
|> of packing peanut made from cornstarch.  If you hold one of the peanuts  
|> under water it instantly dissolves.
|> 
|> Very cool!
|> 

Aren't they great!  Whenever I get them in the mail, I will usually throw them
out in the garden or the flower beds and let them dissolve in the rain.  Sure
beats those plastic bubbles and the styrofoam 'peanuts'. 

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