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From: gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO)
Subject: Re: teshsst
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:38:27 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.221434.3911@darwin.ntu.edu.au> nunn@nutmeg.ntu.edu.au (JsNO  BAR---NUNN) writes:
>Subject: Re: teshsst
>From: nunn@nutmeg.ntu.edu.au (JsNO  BAR---NUNN)
>Date: 5 Oct 92 22:14:33 +0900
>In article <1OCT199222183132@cc.utah.edu>, rsr4936@cc.utah.edu (Reay, Robert S.) writes:
>> 
>> It's teach a future computer geek to post week.
>> 
>> 
>> 			this message is one huge test.a 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
>
> did somebody say...CASCADE!!!
 did somebody say he'd got PAID???



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From: urf@icl.se (Urban F)
Subject: Re: alt.models dead?
Organization: None. On USENET I speak only for myself.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 16:54:37 GMT

esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) writes:

>On the other hand, I know of sites that refuse to carry rec.* groups, but
>carry alt.* groups.  The reasoning is that, by definition, rec.* groups are
>not work related, but there could be work-related alt.* groups.

Our site was like that until I realized r.m.s would be created, so I 
asked for rec.* groups, and fortunately we got them the same day.
I don't think we should rmgroup a.m, and personally I merge it with
r.m.s in my .nn/init file, so I don't have that many groups to scan.
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 Knowledge is power: Read books!
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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: COX, CO2 or Electrical power? HELP!
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:27:40 GMT

In article <Bw4KFx.J7M@inews.Intel.COM> user@machine.domain writes:

|I tried to set up the Dauntless for rudder-only R/C with a .049
|It was less than successful.  On its first launch it basically rolled over
|on its back and crashed.  These planes are not really great, aerodynamically.
|They don't have enough dihedral, etc.  Also they are not very strong.
|The wing spars were 1/16" square balsa, as I recall.  After that failure,
|I set the plane up as control-line, with the .049.  It didn't have
|enough power to become airborne, it just went around and around on
|the ground.

Wow.. must've been very heavy  9-)


|I thought Guillow's went out of business years ago, and then I was amazed to
|see the exact same kits I built as a kid in a hobby store (Sheldon's in San 
|Jose) a few months ago.  Does anyone else still build these?

Yeah.. the local K-mart has em too. I think they use awful wood, and are 
too heavy and complicated, and use construction that dates back to the 40s
(eg. rear HOOKS for the rubber motor. I laughed when I saw that... I bought
a 52" Taylorcraft a while ago). There are lots of good kits out there - 
try Peck Polymers for one. 

Still, built right, I'm sure one can get them to fly well. Learning to fly 
scale rubber isn't the easiest thing in the world if you don't have a local 
guru..theres winding technique and rubber handling to learn, also trimming..
but its very rewarding. Its also very big.. the Flying Aces Club meet at
Geneseo draws lots and lots of contestants even in this day and age of R/C
domination. 

I'd start with something like a Peck One Nite 16 or a Prairie Bird...

By the way.. Lanier has brought back the King Condor.. a 2 meter sized
ARF Free Flight rubber ship. 




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Newsgroups: alt.models,rec.models.rc
From: hhm@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (herschel.h.mayo)
Subject: Re: Ramjet/Pulsejet Engine
Organization: Chicago Home for the Morally Challenged
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:44:41 GMT
Followup-To: alt.models

In article <1992Oct5.232429.16492@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, fjcppr@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
> the engine was called a Dyna-jet Redhead. It is a pulse jet, and I
> think they are still used in competition speed control-line flying. They
> may still be sold thru America's Hobby Center. They are awfully noisy.


I recall that they were pulled from the market for liability reasons. These things
were fitted to solid aluminum airframes, and were powerful enough to maim or
decapitate someone if they were struck by one. They were very dangerous.

                                                         Larry
                                                            
Newsgroups: alt.models
From: umbrock0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Ed Brocki)
Subject: SAE aero design competition
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 23:24:14 GMT

We want to talk to people who have been at previous SAE Aero Design
Competition.  This is the first time we are entering the competition.
WE would like to know what the competition is like, how the judging works,
and generally what goes on.

We are would also like to get some information on previous designs.
Since we are starting from scratch, we are not sure if we are doing things
correctly

let us know if you can help
thanx
Ed Brocki
University of MAnitoba
SAE Aero DEsign Team


From: maurice@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com (Maurice Liang)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 01:48:19 GMT
Subject: Re: Porsche 924 Turbo kit(Re: Pointer to a kit or index?)
Organization: HP Pacific Technology Park - Sunnyvale, Ca.
Newsgroups: alt.models

  If you don't have any luck, let me know.  I think I have an Entex 924 turbo
  the monogram 924T, and the bandai in my storage area.

  Maurice

From: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:34:17 GMT
Subject: Re: Please Help
Organization: HP Western Response Center
Newsgroups: alt.models

Oops! My apologies for posting my previous "Please Help" survey to this
group. It was an honest mistake and won't happen again.

Kingsley
From: torsten@rnivh.rni.sub.org (Torsten Leibold)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Re: WWII Luftwaffe misc.
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:22:54 GMT
Organization: Rhein-Neckar-Informationsdienst Viernheim

u6409886@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au writes:

>I am currently making 2 models of the Ta 152 H of late WWII vintage, and
>want to make planes from two different units. Unfortunately, in all of my
>references I can only definitively find a reference to JG 301, and "several
>others". The old Frog kit had markings for a plane of JG 3 as well as JG 301,
>but I have reasons to doubt that. Can anyone help ? Maybe the Trimaster
>1/48 kit has another markings reference.

I've found some markings of the Fw190 which is almost the same as the
Ta152 (the Fw190 has later been renamed to Ta152 to honor the
Developer of the Fw190 - Kurt Tank).

JG 6	: a small red heart on a white playing card. The card is bent
	  45 degrees to the left. On the bottom line of the card is
	  written the name 'Jutta'.

JG 3	: belonged to the 'Sturmbock' Forces which were expected to
	  bring down those bombers under any circumstances. This
	  included ramming as a last resort. They had no special
	  'Staffel' markings, except some flight leaders which had
	  their own personal markings.

JG 54	: A large green heart surrounded by a white border line.

The photos in that book were not so bright, so I couldn't see the
markings very good. Otherwise I had found more of them.


>Incidentally, for anyone building the Dragon Ta 152 C 1/72 kit, the colour
>guide is almost certainly wrong. The upper colours should be Dunkelgrun 
>(Dark Green) 82, and Grau (Grey) 75, not, as stated, 70 + 75. The other
>colours would give a much higher contrast than is visible in several good
>photos, and the 82/75 scheme was the standard Fw190D scheme at the time.

Sorry, I can't give you any hints on that, cause the pictures are b&w
and I don't have written color schemes.

>If anyone wants to talk WWII Luftwaffe subjects, email me.

:-) Yes sure. I could tell you much more about the Bf109 and Ju87.

Bye,
  Torsten.

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From: dbraun@cad636.intel.com (Doug Braun ~)
Newsgroups: alt.models,fj.rec.models,rec.models.rc,rec.models.scale
Subject: Re: COX, CO2 or Electrical power? HELP!
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:52:44 GMT
Reply-To: user@machine.domain
Organization: Intel Design Technology

In article <1992Oct12.205126.19636@kth.se>, d88-jli@nada.kth.se (Jouni Lindqvist) writes:
|> Hi!
|> 
|> I've built some of the Guillows balsa scale models that are meant to
|> be either display object's or free flying models driven by eihter
|> rubber, 0.10-0.49 cox gas engines or CO2-motors.
|> 
|

A long, long time ago I built a bunch of these, culminating in the big
ones like a Stuka, a F4U Corsair (with folding wings) and a Dauntless
Dive-Bomber.  They were fun to build.

I tried to set up the Dauntless for rudder-only R/C with a .049
It was less than successful.  On its first launch it basically rolled over
on its back and crashed.  These planes are not really great, aerodynamically.
They don't have enough dihedral, etc.  Also they are not very strong.
The wing spars were 1/16" square balsa, as I recall.  After that failure,
I set the plane up as control-line, with the .049.  It didn't have
enough power to become airborne, it just went around and around on
the ground.

I thought Guillow's went out of business years ago, and then I was amazed to
see the exact same kits I built as a kid in a hobby store (Sheldon's in San Jose) a few months ago.  Does anyone else still build these?


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From: josef@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (jose.e.f.saavedra)
Subject: Blue Devil Destroyer - Help please
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 12:18:37 GMT
Keywords: Lindberg, Destroyer

Hi - this past week-end  while helping a friend move, I found a
model of the "Blue Devil", a destroyer" of WWII era by Lindberg.
My friend gave it to me have since does not want to build models
anymore.  All the parts seem to be there but the instructions were
not in the box and we could not find them.  I've tried to find the
number for Lindberg models but no luck and the local hobbie shop was
no help.

Does anyone know how to contact Lindberg or how to get a copy of the
instructions?  Please respond via e-mail. 

Thanks for any help.

	Jose Saavedra
	AT&T Bell Labs
	Middletown, NJ 07748
	email: att!mtnms!jose
Newsgroups: alt.models
From: Ha Quang Le <hqle@daisy.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Help: model cars (1/18 scale)
Originator: hqle@daisy.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 00:05:50 GMT



 I am particularly interested in the following model cars (1/18 scale):
    + 1982 Cadillac
    + 1962 Lincoln
    + "A" Model Ford
    + Older Chrysler Cars
    + Older G.M. Cars (Old Pontiac Buick Roadmaster etc)
    + 1963 Chev.
 Please give me information about where, and how I can get these cars
 if you know.
 Thanks a lot.
 Ha Le
Newsgroups: alt.models,fj.rec.models,rec.models.rc,rec.models.scale
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: COX, CO2 or Electrical power? HELP!
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:04:52 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.205126.19636@kth.se> d88-jli@nada.kth.se (Jouni Lindqvist) writes:

No problem - we see a lot of FF and C/L traffic here. I don't fly any
R/C at this point in time either.

>My main interset is in the Tee Dee 0.10 cc (!!!) motor since
>I figure the smaller the better is the right idea for small scale
>free flight models. Is there any other manufacturers  that have similar
>motors on their program?

Unless you have had experience starting motors I'd suggest staying 
away from these. Unless you have a friend who can help of course..

You don't realize how tiny these are until you see one. Gee, they're
TINY. You'll need a special glowclip. Can you imagine the amount of 
fuel it would take to get one of these flooded?

>CO2-motors are not available in Sweden at the moment, so, please 
>tell me anything you know about these things for me, specially 
>how they work, if they are difficult to use, if they are
>expensive, reliabilty etc ...

Try Czechoslovakia. They make the very nice Modela CO2 motor. I'm
mad at myself for not buying one from one of the C/L Scale World 
Champs competitors.. he wanted $20 for the motor and an extended 
tank!!! I'll post an address once I find the piece of paper - its
floating around in my car somewhere. He also had MVVS engines for
sale.

>Electrical motors. I've been told that electrical motors are far to
>heavy (battery package) to be an alternative, but I still hope that
>some genius out there has created a package ligth enough for me.

Not that true any more. Several people have been experimenting with 
tiny motors and tiny NiCd cells that you get by disassembling the 
tiny 9V batteries. I might be able to send you some Xerox copies 
of some articles. I think the entire setup can go for as little as 
$30 - there are ads in Model Aviation. The field charger is made 
using four NiCd "D" cells.

On another note.. I'd try a Piper Cub or Taylorcraft before a Spit-
fire. The bigger the better.. easier to trim. 

Now... what you can do for me is keep an eye out for cheap ex-Soviet 
C/L Combat motors! I guess the Finns would be more in a position to
do this, but Scandinavia is pretty close regardless..




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Newsgroups: alt.models
From: rlw@atlanta.dg.com (Richard Wright)
Subject: Wanted: Clear VacUForm Sheets
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 15:06:50 GMT
Organization: Data General Corp. Performance Services, Atlanta, GA

I recently found an old Mattel VacUForm machine in perfect working order.
I need to locate a source for plastic sheets, especially clear. I seem to
remember reading somewhere that regular polystyrene doesn't work well and
that Squadron's ThermaForm is unsuitable for use in the VacUForm. Anyone
out there have any thoughts on this? Surely there are people like myself
that are using the old Mattel machine for molding canopies and the like...

Thanks in advance.
Richard.

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Newsgroups: alt.models,fj.rec.models,rec.models.rc,rec.models.scale
From: jlw@world.std.com (James L Walker)
Subject: Re: COX, CO2 or Electrical power? HELP!
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:20:31 GMT

In article <Bw4KFx.J7M@inews.Intel.COM> user@machine.domain writes:
>
>I thought Guillow's went out of business years ago, and then I was amazed to
>see the exact same kits I built as a kid in a hobby store (Sheldon's in San Jose) a few months ago.  Does anyone else still build these?
>

Guillows was alive and well when I last checked.  I've seen their
Catalina advertised by Omni Models that can be converted to R/C.  My
friend's father worked at Guillows for a long, long time.  The other
day I was walking around in his barn and came across a whole bin of
rough balsa planks that had not yet been cut down to size and sanded.
He gave them all to me but I have no idea what to do with them.

-- Les Walker
From: jimh@pongo.Eng.Sun.COM (jim hori)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Possible Origins of Hip Hop Re: DJ Cool Herc
Date: 7 Oct 1992 18:58:16 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: world, rec, usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: pongo

In article <1992Oct7.030653.1368@ultb.isc.rit.edu> ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>From what I know, Kool Herc basically 'started' hip hop in the West Bronx back
>in 1975.  From there it spread quickley to the South Bronx with the likes of
>Caz, Flash and Bambatta.  In 1982, The Sugar Hill Gang put out the first

I don't know about that date on "Rapper's Delight". I started a radio
show at the end of '79 whose theme song was a rap I did over a Mean
Machine rydim. Mean Machine were on Sugarhill along with the Sequence,
Funky 4 + 1, Spoonie Gee, etc. and all those groups came out about the
same time or after "Rapper's Delight". "Monster Jam" by Spoonie Gee
with the Sequence still rocks the house.


....
jimh@west.sun.com
From: v089l3s3@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Jeremy B Horwitz)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Prince
Date: 14 Oct 92 12:30:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Bw3H7F.5tu@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v065nlpz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amil) writes...
> 
>	Has anyone heard that new Prince album yet?  Its not hip-hop,
>but its not bad.  Its right along the lines of _Diamonds And Pearls_,
>but is a lot funkier and has more rap tied into it.

Not much rap... I bought it y-day. It has its good parts and, well, I
wouldn't say "bad" parts as much as I'd say songs that I can't get
into because of my mood. I'm a big Diamonds and Pearls fan, and this
one comes close at first listen, but may be equal after I hear it a
few times.

-> Jer
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: me_f316@ceres (+-=NUBIAN=-+)
Subject: Re: gangstar's latest album
Organization: Your Girlfriend's Bedside
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:41:37 GMT

DUGJJ@CUNYVM.BITNET () writes:
: I've listened to 'x girl 2 the next girl' and I love that jam, can anyone out t
: here tell me if I should invest my $15 in the album. I like their style but I
: like anyone else don't want 2 buy an album 2 listen 2 1 jam.  Plz help.
: 
Why ask answers???
Of course you should buy it
There was only one track I didn't like on the album
And that was ....
SIC!!!!!

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From: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Vanilla's Got A Boyfriend
Reply-To: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:14:47 GMT

In article <redmondd.718729906@unix1.tcd.ie>, redmondd@unix1.tcd.ie (Judge Raz) writes:
>In <1992Oct9.024719.13364@ultb.isc.rit.edu> ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>
>>Anyone catch Entertainment Tonight?  Well, our favorite rapper, Vanilla
>>Ice, is in a holding center up in Portland, Oregon for forgery and the use
>>of others people's credit cards.  My, how the mighty have fallen.
>                                               ^^^^^^
>What's this mighty business?
>
>Judge Raz

It's simply called sarcasim....

                                     T-Dub
                                     SHYGUY productions
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Friday, 9 Oct 1992 00:10:27 EDT
From: Madison J. Gray <34LI4E6@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Understanding Hip Hop

My Australian brother, if I have read your message correctly, you are trying to
 equate hip-hop culture with African-American culture. Hip-hop is an extension
of African-American culture that started in New York City in the mid-1970's and
 spread as rap music became more popular. It is a street culture that represent
s urban youth around the industrial world. You cannot confuse hip-hop and Afric
an-Americans because not all blacks enjoy or participate in hip-hop culture. To
 understand hip-hop listen to rap music and study sociology. To understand blac
k culture- you must BE BLACK. Take it from a brother from DETROIT, a city where
 you will definitely find a bullet with your name on it.
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: casey@cs.mcgill.ca (Kallol DAS)
Subject: Re: B-Boys Jimmy James
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 04:46:54 GMT

Well the Beasties are coming to Montreal I think on the 3rd Nov. but the
problem for me is... I don't know anyone else who likes them!
Seriously!  I'm tryin to bug a couple of friends of mine who are into
rap but not into BB's to go but ...

Also, is it just me or is 'Check Your Head' just MUCH better than
'Paul's Boutique'??  Actually Paul's Boutique was my *first* CD.



				casey@cs.mcgill.ca
				.

Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Carlos E. Torres)
Subject: Latin Alliance
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:11:37 GMT

Hi,
	I wanted to know if anybody out there has the Latin Alliance album?
I am considering getting it, but really haven't heard any of the songs yet.
I'd like to know from people out there what they think of the album.  Is it
good/bad? Give me both positive and negative things that you liked/disliked  
about it.  Is the music fast paced/slow and mellowish, etc...
		Mystic
From: xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: An Open Letter From Afrika Bambaataa
Date: 14 Oct 92 11:54:23
Organization: University of California, Berserkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: cork.cs.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu's message of 11 Oct 92 06:16:18 GMT

>>>>> "ter5424" == ter5424  <ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu> writes:

  ter5424>          Hip Hop is not separate from rap.  Rap is a part of the hip hop
  ter5424>     culture.  Hip Hop - the word is the whole culture, meaning the rappers,
  ter5424>     the language, the lyrics, etc.

	[Lots of knowledge from Bambaataa deleted]
  ter5424>     Any opinions??
  ter5424>                                       T-Dub
  ter5424>                                       SHYGUY productions

Yeah, now that we've got it straight from one of the pioneer's mouth we can
punt this hip-hop is a form of rap bs others propagate. As I've said
numerous times, rap is a way of expression, hip-hop is a way of life.

--
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From: citerman@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Tyson Citerman)
Subject: B-Boys/Da Lenchmob
Summary: B-Boys/Lenchmob/Rollins Show
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: nyc
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:58:47 GMT

Question 1: Does anyone have any information about this ad for a show at the
Roseland that includes the Beastie Boys, the Rollins Band, and Da Lenchmob?  
How did the Beastie Boys hook up w/Ice Cube, or is Ice Cube going to actually 
be a part of this show?

Question 2: Unrelated to the the above, does anyone know how the Grand Puba/DJ
Red Alert show at the Ritz last Sunday went?