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From: quirk@pioneer.unm.edu (Gym Z. Quirk)
Subject: Re: more on bespeaking
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 00:52:24 GMT
Organization: Nit-Pickers for a Better Tomorow Afternoon

In article <Btz2Gs.xq@rice.edu> aeksir@owlnet.rice.edu (Amy Elizabeth Ksir) writes:
>All right, this is nit-picking, but the way I understand who can hear who is
>this:

Well, I've no objections to nit-picking. ;-)

>1. Most people can't hear any dragons.

Despite what some claim on PernMUSH. ;-)

>2. Robinton and Sharra (others?) can be spoken to by the dragons of people who
>   are close to them.  This seems to be a matter of the dragon's choice, and
>   also of emergency -- Ruth started talking to Sharra when Jaxom was ill,
>   Mnementh and Ramoth talked to the MasterHarper when he was having a heart
>   attack. 

Actually, Robinton started 'hearing' dragons before/during the Telgar
Wedding in _DragonQuest_.  Also Mnementh 'spoke' to Jaxom when he and
Lytol went to Benden Weyr and (unintentionally) discovered the microscope.

>3. Most dragonriders can talk to their own dragons only.
>4. Lessa and Brekke (Moreta?) can speak to and be spoken to by any dragon.
>   A very useful ability for a weyrwoman.

Moreta seems to be a case (2) above when she rode Holth to High
Reaches Weyr.

>5. Aramina can talk to any dragon, and also hears all dragon conversations
>   around her, whether they are directed toward her or not.  Which can get
>   to be annoying.
>
>I don't remember any instance of people bespeaking each other directly. 

Correct.  And before anybody brings the 'example' of Lessa and F'nor
flying to Southern for the first time, remember that it is explicitily
stated that the exchanges are via Ramoth and Canth.

>Arella.

Kurion, master of archives and Fort WeyrHarper.
       (Also self-appointed MasterNitPicker. ;-)
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From: txdv1@isuvax.iastate.edu (Angela KAY Rolling)
Subject: dragon books
Reply-To: txdv1@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 14:06:29 GMT

for true crinological order
dragons down first
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
From: krelos@agora.rain.com (Neal Feldman)
Subject: The Pern Mud
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:46:37 GMT

How do I get into the Pern MUD?  I type MUD and this
computer seems to be familiar with the concept, as it says

TRYING ###########

A long number I don't remember.

Also, could someone send me a list of MUDs?  Thanks.
From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: Future Pern..
Date: 30 Aug 92 07:16:27 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Aug29.175807.18941@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, cb317@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stephanie J. Kessler) writes:
> Someone said something about no more thread.. I hope that is
> from All the Weyr's which I'm still waiting to read... otherwise
> I really missed something...

Yes, I read that line and thought, "spoiler!" I still haven't read the book,
as I don't have enough money to go around. I know it's tough on you guys to
watch the spoilers this long after the book's come out, but it's tough being a
poor, starving college student who can't afford to buy a hardcover book by one
of her favorite authors too. Until it comes out in paperback, I beg of you,
please! I don't want to know anything. If the above wasn't a spoiler of some
sort, I know that some posters are still champing at the bit anyways.

--Semhaza
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From: jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshua Bell)
Subject: Re: more on bespeaking
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 02:00:59 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <Btz2Gs.xq@rice.edu> aeksir@owlnet.rice.edu (Amy Elizabeth Ksir) writes:
>All right, this is nit-picking, but the way I understand who can hear who is this:
>
>1. Most people can't hear any dragons.
>2. Robinton and Sharra (others?) can be spoken to by the dragons of people who
>   are close to them.  This seems to be a matter of the dragon's choice, and
>   also of emergency -- Ruth started talking to Sharra when Jaxom was ill,
>   Mnementh and Ramoth talked to the MasterHarper when he was having a heart
>   attack. 

There's no indication that (1) is true. Dragons just seem to be
very choosy about who they talk to. Robinton is loved by all
dragons, Sharra is very impotant to Ruth and Jaxom. Reword (1) to
'most people don't hear any dragons' and I'll be happy.

>3. Most dragonriders can talk to their own dragons only.
>4. Lessa and Brekke (Moreta?) can speak to and be spoken to by any dragon.
>   A very useful ability for a weyrwoman.
>5. Aramina can talk to any dragon, and also hears all dragon conversations
>   around her, whether they are directed toward her or not.  Which can get
>   to be annoying.

There are also instances of dragons overhearing thoughts of
people riding them but not their own riders. Not having read the
books in a while my memory is, of course, questionable. :) I seem
to recall a person thinking compliments to the dragon, and having
the dragon's rider chuckle and relay thanks. Was this Robinton or
someone else?

Joshua
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From: slip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Doolie)
Subject: Re: Future Pern..
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 00:14:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.130057.6859@pimacc.pima.edu> ppugliese@pimacc.pima.edu writes:
>In article <1992Aug29.175807.18941@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, cb317@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stephanie J. Kessler) writes:
>> 
>         A number of times in the books there's speculation about
>what will happen when Dragons are no longer needed. I recall some-
>thing to the effect that, "They will know what to do", or somesuch.
>
>PHIL
>p.s. As the Final Interval becomes permanent after thousands of years
>have passed it seems to me that Pern , w/o Thread to hold them back,
>will be transformed into something scarcely recognizable. Weyr culture
>should be affected similarly.
>
You cant beat dragons for Same-day airmail.



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Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
From: poet@cactus.org (Timothy A. Poe)
Subject: Re: Where is PernMush??
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 05:06:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.154959.4056@math.okstate.edu> russ@math.okstate.edu (Horatio "Random" Hellpop) writes:
>For those of you who were gone all summer, and ergo probably missed the move:
>
>PernMUSH
>wiretape.spies.com, port 4201

er...that's 'wiretap.spies.com, port 4201'.

Alton, Lord Lemos

Xref: sparky alt.fan.pern:1216 rec.games.mud.tiny:233
From: shagstro@nyx.cs.du.edu (Shirley Hagstrom)
Subject: PernWorld
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix (sponsored by U. of Denver Math/CS dept.)
Disclaimer1: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University of
Disclaimer2: Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
Disclaimer3: control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 08:10:55 GMT

  An invatation is extended to builders to join us on PernWorld.  If you
are interested in applying to open a craft or hold 100 turns after ATWOP,
log onto dimebox.cs.utexas.edu 4201 and look for Lyria or Jazmyn.

  Please excuse my typing, since I have been up far too late tonight..:)

  Seeya there..

   Jaz
From: quark@csa.bu.edu (Paul Fu)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: AtWoP in paperback?
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:56:04 GMT
Organization: Boston University, School of Medicine/Dept. Computer Science
In-reply-to: emeinfel@gmuvax2.gmu.edu's message of 31 Aug 92 12:30:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.123013.1406@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> emeinfel@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (...) writes:
   That is a trade edition paper back.  Trade editions usually cost more
   and can be worth some thing because they are infrequently released in that
   format (used to be that way).  It has not been released in the US yet.
   I am curious to know the publisher.  It is Ballantine under Del Rey?

Del Rey is a division of Ballantine Books, which is, I believe, a division
of Random House.  

   -- 
   Edmond L. Meinfelder  // In a gust of wind the white dew 
   // On the Autum grass // Scatters like a broken necklace. 

Paul
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From: cb317@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stephanie J. Kessler)
Subject: Re: Future Pern..
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 17:58:07 GMT


It would make sense  that if the Golds  can determine the size of
the clutch, they would try to maintain current levels, rather
than have another Dragon
Shortage which occured when the Interval  ended.  After all, they
know now that thread can
"take a vacation"...

Someone said something about no more thread.. I hope that is
from All the Weyr's which I'm still waiting to read... otherwise
I really missed something...
-- 
The United States is a nation of laws:  badly written and
randomly enforced.     Frank Zappa

cb317 @ cleveland.Freenet.Edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
From: chris@keris.demon.co.uk (Chris Croughton)
Subject: Future Pern.. 
Distribution: world
Organization: Keristor Systems
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 07:33:47 +0000


In article <1992Aug30.031627.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>
            rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:

>In article <1992Aug29.175807.18941@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>,
>           cb317@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stephanie J. Kessler) writes:
>> Someone said something about no more thread.. I hope that is
>> from All the Weyr's which I'm still waiting to read... otherwise
>> I really missed something...
>
>Yes, I read that line and thought, "spoiler!" I still haven't read the book,

Anne has said lots of times (long before All The Weyrs Of Pern came out)
that the 9th Pass will be the last.  What she never stated was *why* it
would be the last...

Near the end of DragonQuest F'lar is asked the question "If there are
grubs everywhere, so the vegetation is safe, and people just stay in
their Holds during Threadfall, what is there for Dragonriders to do?"
(paraphrase).  The reply is something to the effect of "What dragons do
best - they go places".

Chris

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From: plee@cco.caltech.edu (Patrick L. Lee)
Subject: Where is PernMush??
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 21:43:54 GMT

Where the heck did PernMush end up? Last I saw it was at Gram.Dell.Com 4201, 
but since I regained net access (summer..) I can't seem to find it anymore...

Help would be appreciated..
<replies to Plee@kanga.caltech.edu>
From: ppugliese@pimacc.pima.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: Future Pern..
Date: 28 Aug 92 23:32:51 GMT

In article <2m34PB3w164w@penn.Gwinnett.COM>, bfbear@penn.Gwinnett.COM (Penn Collins) writ
> 
> makes sense- BUT, I thought the queens had this 'instinct' to start laying
> heavy before a pass- well if no passes, what happens to that instinct?
> do they stop reproducing?? (doubt it)

Remember the first book? How the clutch size declined dramatically during
the "Long Interval"? Perhaps the clutch size would again decline dramatic-
ally during this the "Longest Interval". The Golds would probably just lay
enough eggs to assure the survival of the species.

PHIL
 
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From: shagstro@nyx.cs.du.edu (Shirley Hagstrom)
Subject: Hard to find Pern goodies.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix (sponsored by U. of Denver Math/CS dept.)
Disclaimer1: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University of
Disclaimer2: Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
Disclaimer3: control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 03:33:46 GMT

   Here are a few things people might enjoy..

  For those who are going nuts trying to find a copy of the Atlas of Pern..

  The Science Fiction Book Club
  Member Service Center
  6550 E. 30th street
  P.O.Box 6325
  Indianapolis, Indiana 46206-6325

  For 'All the Weyrs of Pern' on audio tape (For those of you having no
time to read a book and would like to hear Anne McCaffrey herself read it
to you.)...

   The Publishing Mills
   P.O.Box 481006
   Los Angeles, CA 90048       Phone:1-800-72-AUDIO

  Western Weyr doing its service to Pern Fans everyweyr....
            Jazmyn
               Rider of Gold Crystath o
                                PernWorld
From: aeksir@owlnet.rice.edu (Amy Elizabeth Ksir)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: more on bespeaking
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:29:15 GMT
Organization: Rice University

All right, this is nit-picking, but the way I understand who can hear who is this:

1. Most people can't hear any dragons.
2. Robinton and Sharra (others?) can be spoken to by the dragons of people who
   are close to them.  This seems to be a matter of the dragon's choice, and
   also of emergency -- Ruth started talking to Sharra when Jaxom was ill,
   Mnementh and Ramoth talked to the MasterHarper when he was having a heart
   attack. 
3. Most dragonriders can talk to their own dragons only.
4. Lessa and Brekke (Moreta?) can speak to and be spoken to by any dragon.
   A very useful ability for a weyrwoman.
5. Aramina can talk to any dragon, and also hears all dragon conversations
   around her, whether they are directed toward her or not.  Which can get
   to be annoying.

I don't remember any instance of people bespeaking each other directly. 

Just my .02 marks...  

Arella.
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From: Martin_Loos@mk.maus.de (Martin Loos)
Subject: Looking for Pern Book-List
Organization: Mausnet
X-Gateway: MausGate/Mail 1.11
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 06:36:00 +0000

reply-to: Martin_Loos@UN.maus.de

Hi there!

Is there anybody, who would post me a list of all Pern-Books?

Thanks a lot!

so long...
Mattin

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From: jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshua Bell)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: Future Pern..
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:34:22 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <Bts01t.JGq@andy.bgsu.edu> jkiley@andy.bgsu.edu (James H. Kiley) writes:
>slip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Doolie) writes:
>
>> You cant beat dragons for Same-day airmail.
>
>Or previous day, in case you were all waiting to see who would bite on that
>one first...

I should dig up this discussion on Post ATWOP from last year from
my archives. :) I think the best quote on it is:

RUTH EXPRESS: When it absolutely, positively has to get there yesterday!

Joshua
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Subject: Re: Future Pern..
From: ppugliese@pimacc.pima.edu
Date: 29 Aug 92 13:00:57 -0700

In article <1992Aug29.175807.18941@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, cb317@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stephanie J. Kessler) writes:
> 
> It would make sense  that if the Golds  can determine the size of
> the clutch, they would try to maintain current levels, rather
> than have another Dragon
> Shortage which occured when the Interval  ended.  After all, they
> know now that thread can
> "take a vacation"...
> 

The last Interval was not the first Long Interval so the dragons
should've 'known' already. In the books it's speculated that the
clutch size should've been larger for a number of years before the
current Pass but wasn't due to the incompetence of & depression
suffered by the last WeyrWoman before Lessa. Of course the fact
that only 1 weyr was active probably also had something to do
with it. A number of times in the books there's speculation about
what will happen when Dragons are no longer needed. I recall some-
thing to the effect that, "They will know what to do", or somesuch.

PHIL
p.s. As the Final Interval becomes permanent after thousands of years
have passed it seems to me that Pern , w/o Thread to hold them back,
will be transformed into something scarcely recognizable. Weyr culture
should be affected similarly.

Xref: sparky alt.fan.pern:1225 rec.games.mud.tiny:241 rec.games.mud.announce:65
From: toigom@aix.rpi.edu (Mark Vincent Toigo)
Subject: Re: Dragon Info wanted
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:32:02 GMT

In article <66an40b@lynx.unm.edu> quirk@pioneer.unm.edu (Gym Z. Quirk) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.160816.12116@morwyn.uucp> forrie@morwyn.uucp (Forrie Aldrich) writes:
>>I just began reading the Pern series (am about to finish Dragonsdawn), and
>>am really enjoying it, so I thought to subscribe to this group.  
>>One peculiar difficulty I've had is determining the actual _order_ of the
>>entire series... it seems that the books say differently, and the bookstore
>>I go to doesn't have proper reference.
>>Could someone kindly tell me each book in its proper sequence?  
>
>
>Frankly, I recommend (as does Ms. McCaffrey) that the books be read in
>the order published, rather than in chronological order.  This means:
>
>_Dragonflight_
>_Dragonquest_
>_Dragonsong_
>_Dragonsinger_
>_The White Dragon_
>_Dragondrums_
>_Moreta: Dragonlady of Pern_
>_Nerilka's Story_
>(_The Girl Who Heard Dragons_ if you can find it.)
>_Dragonsdawn_
>_The Renegades of Pern_
>_All the Weyrs of Pern_
>

From reading them myself, I would recommend that DragonDrums come *before*
The White Dragon, otherwise you'll go through a lot of new people/places/events
that you've heard nothing about.  Also, I find putting Dragonsdawn after
Renegades to be a good idea (if you've read them, you can probably see why).
When I go through an re-read everything, I use that order, but I stick
Moreta and Nerilka between Dragonsinger and Dragondrums as a change of pace
from "normal time" Pern.
Just my opinion, to which nobody need listen.

Sandy
Daria @ PernMUSH  
(I represent neither the institution from which this post originates, nor the
 person whose name is on it.)
From: phoenix@meltdown.chi.il.us (Danielle Ostach)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: Future Pern..
Date: 1 Sep 92 12:43:58 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

Future Pern will not have the Weyrs as supported entities but will go more
towards what the dragons were originally during their first months of life
during dragon's Dawn. 
 
The riders will be integrated into the society and serving to earn a living and
role much as crafters and holders do. I see the dragonriders each having a
double role like Jaxom (ie Holder and Rider, Journeyman and rider, etc...).
All riders will need to pay a part of their salary into the maintainance of the
weyrs which will only have the golds and a couple of bronze. The riders then
would work like an army reserve of 1 weekend a month and 2 weeks during the
summer of training and refresher work (after the initial year or so of
training).

As for most suited roles, I expect that Traders, Harpers, Healers and Holders
would have most of the riders with a few in other crafts and positions. The
riders might actually form their own craft like a teamster's union for
transport. Many dragon and riders would move into policing bandits and into
carrying loads of water for fire controls.

Danielle
Telkara @ PernMUSH
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From: forrie@morwyn.uucp (Forrie Aldrich)
Subject: Dragon Info wanted
Organization: Vision Graphics
              Dover NH
              USA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:08:16 GMT

I just began reading the Pern series (am about to finish Dragonsdawn), and
am really enjoying it, so I thought to subscribe to this group.  

One peculiar difficulty I've had is determining the actual _order_ of the
entire series... it seems that the books say differently, and the bookstore
I go to doesn't have proper reference.

Could someone kindly tell me each book in its proper sequence?  

Many thanks...

Forrest

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From: txdv1@isuvax.iastate.edu (Angela KAY Rolling)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: future pern
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:46:43 GMT
Reply-To: txdv1@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa

I see a system were there is a lot less mistacism around dragons as they
will nolonger be as confined to the wyres of have the position of protecter
.dragens and riders will be more visable in everyday life and not visable
flaming danger out of the skys. as such they will not have to go out on
serche as more people will want to be riders as they are more used to the
animals. so pre-impresion ritual will become a methid of weding out those}i
who are unsutable. dragon riders will probly become msomething along the line
of valint explorer/astronaut travaling to the uthere planits in the system
as they relearnthe necesarry skills. this could become a big draw to the
people of pern to become dragon riders

ELF-KIN
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From: russ@math.okstate.edu (Horatio "Random" Hellpop)
Subject: Re: Where is PernMush??
Organization: Aggie? What precisely is an Aggie?
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:25:25 GMT

In <1992Sep1.011245.20449@math.okstate.edu> kruger@math.okstate.edu (Valentine) writes:

>In article <snip> russ@math.okstate.edu (Horatio "Random" Hellpop) writes:
>>For those of you who were gone all summer, and ergo probably missed the move:

>>PernMUSH
>>wiretape.spies.com, port 4201

>>-Lord Kale of Bitra

>	wiretap. Not wiretape. wiretap. As in:

>	wiretap.spies.com 4201

What can I say?  I type 'tape' more than 'wiretap'.  I work for a University,
not the FBI.

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From: emeinfel@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (...)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: AtWoP in paperback?
Date: 31 Aug 92 12:25:37 GMT
Organization: Ferrous Fencing Ferrets Inc.

fscem1@acad3.alaska.edu wrote: 
>Could someone - ANYONE - tell me when _All the Weyrs of Pern_ is due
>out in paperback?  I can't afford hardback but I'm getting desperate
>enough to splurge.  (*:  My apologies if everyone went through answering
>this question 2 weeks ago - I'm new to this newstopic and haven't
>seen it.

I know nothing for sure.  I used to work at a bookstore, and bestsellers
in hardback were usually released in mass market editions the following
year when the sales for the hardbound edition have dropped.  I am sure
that by Christmas you'll see it in the stores, co-released with
gift-box selections (ATWOP & Renegades & DD).  If not released by
then the next big release time is around Easter.
-- 
Edmond L. Meinfelder  // In a gust of wind the white dew 
// On the Autum grass // Scatters like a broken necklace.