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From: dcha@flex.com (Doug Cha)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,rec.video,sci.electronics
Subject: Best Tape Brands!
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 00:59:16 HST
Organization: Flex Information Network [Hawaii] 808.531.3539

Amiga@cup.portal.com (Philip Barry Kirschner) writes:

> OK,This lead's to the nequestion. Which brands of tapes are better?.
>  
>  
> I would say any tape that does not leave oxide droppings. However each
> tape is different as they use different manufacture processes!
>  
> Phil 

 
That's a good question..  My local hi-end audio/video shop manager told 
me to use Maxells for consistancy.  He said that the new line of 
HGX-Black Magnate were "awesome" for standard HiFi VHS.

Any comments?

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From: JULIE.KADASHEVICH@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Julie Kadashevich")
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: REQUEST: credit card charges disputes - how do they work
Keywords: credit cards
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:11:03 GMT
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

I had an unfortunate experience of ordering computer memory from
an output named MicroChip Components.  They charged my credit
card but never mailed the goods.  I disputed the charges through
my credit card, and received a letter from them stating the
they LOCATED (??) an item in question and the adjustment will
appear on my next statement.

I am curious how adjustments work.  Did the credit card company
had to "eat" $148, or do they have a way of forcing
a non-cooperative company to pay them back?

Anybody knows how this works?  Thanks!
From: patlo@parc.xerox.com (Patrick Lo)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: ** Need Info of Mazda and Dodge Minivan **
Keywords: Minivan
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:15:57 GMT
Organization: Xerox PARC


I am currently shopping for a new minivan. I have narrowed my choices to two 
minivans : Mazda MPV and Dodge Caravan. I would like to make a comparison
of the two vans before I decide which one I should buy. Can anyone from the
NET provides some insights ? 

The things I am looking for are :
 
	Safety, reliability, comfort, price, gas mileage, handling, etc... 

Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: chris@chinook.atd.ucar.edu (Chris Webster)
Subject: Re: Carburetors, gasoline and why I don't
Reply-To: chris@chinook.atd.ucar.edu
Organization: Research Aviation Facility, NCAR, Boulder, CO
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 16:04:20 GMT

In article 9720@mwhhlaw.uucp, jim@mwhhlaw (James P. Cavanaugh III) writes:
>	The original poster reached the correct answer in not  
>recycling, but for the wrong reason.  The correct reason is that  
>recycling is wasteful.  (Yes, you read that correctly).
>	1.  Everything is scarce.  That is, there is not enough of  
>anything in all creation to employ it for all possible uses.
>	2.  Everything being scarce, there is a need to allocate all  
>recources to the most efficient use.  I sense no serious disagreement  
>so far.
> [stuff deleted]
>	8.  Result: Landfilling is a more efficient use of ALL  
>resources (as opposed to one or two isolated resources) than is  
>recycling.
>  

This is not true for Aluminum.  That is why Renolds (sp)
started a recycling program for aluminum decades ago.
It requires something like 90% less energy to recycle
aluminum than to mine it from the ground.

--Chris
From: bkottmann@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil (Brett Kottmann)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: New Mortgage Scam
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:29:05 EST
Organization: Logicon Technical Services, Inc.

In article <akynnah.sasse@netcom.com>, sasse@netcom.com (Ellen Sasse) writes:
> rboudrie@chpc.org (Rob Boudrie) writes: 
...
>> if they think I'm stupid enough to pay them $495 for this non-service.
>> (I'll just keep sending in extra principal with each month's payment and
>> do it myself).
> 
> Not only that, but the only way to stop this kind of automatic payment
> arrangement is from the merchant (in this case the bank holding your
> mortgage), at least it was at the bank I worked at ~5 years ago.
> 
> Unfortunately there was nothing stopping some merchants from continuing to
> charge customers for services that had been discontinued, and we'd see
> problems with people for sometimes two or three months and there was nothing
> we could do except explain how it worked. I will never, ever, set up
> automatic payment from MY checking account, unless they change the rules
> (and probably not even then. I like to write my OWN checks). I am 
> not giving someone undisputable rights to MY money! Hopefully things
> have changed since my years at the bank!

	I did my car loan that way.  It just ended last month, have to see if
it still will be deducted this month :).

	But sent in the authorization I think I remember reading that only I
could start it and only I could end it (that is, unless the merchant notified
them of a completed contract).

	In any event the merchant continuing to take out money after the
payments are complete would appear to be theft, and fraud and wire fraud
and....
:)

	I'll do it for car loans, because I probably won't prepay those.  But
not for house payments or from companies I don't trust.

Brett--------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com
Subject: Re: firewood -- what kinds are best?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:00:27 GMT

I read somewhere that regarding heat content, all woods have pretty much the
same heat content _by dry weight_.  But since wood is usually sold by the
cord and not the ton it would be foolish to pay as much for a cord of poplar
as a cord of hickory.  In addition you'll have to keep reloading the
lighter wood more often.

This does not consider burning characteristics, such as pine being a heavy
creator of creosote etc.

-Mike
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From: richard@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,misc.consumers.house
Subject: Re: Mail Order Window Blinds
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:33:25 CDT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <CSS.92Sep9113412@boa.ccsf.caltech.edu>, css@boa.ccsf.caltech.edu (Chris Shenton) writes:
> In article <19172@titan.cme.nist.gov> fowler@cme.nist.gov (Jim Fowler) writes:
> I recently got four miniblinds from American Blind and Wallpaper
> (800-735-5300). The price was less than half what the local discount
> places were charging; one psycho (in Bethesda, Jim :-) wanted SIX
> times as much.
> 
> They had any of the manufacturers I enquired about, were very
> efficient, blah, blah, blah. I'll definitely order from them again. 

I'll second this recommendation.  We've ordered from them twice, and were
nothing but pleased with the quick service, good quality products, wide
selection of colors, and great prices.

> No, I don't work for AB&W. :-)

Me neither.
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Newsgroups: misc.consumers,sci.med
From: burke@tss.com (Jim Burke)
Subject: Re: water purification/is drinking pure water bad for you?
Reply-To: burke@tss.com (Jim Burke)
Organization: Teknekron Software Systems. Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:52:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.180034.27639@decuac.dec.com>, jcp@islay.dco.dec.com (Jolly C. Pancakes) writes:

|> 
|> 	What in the heck is an *organic* mineral ?

Perhaps coprolite?

-- 

	Jim Burke	"Life is uncertain - eat dessert first!"
	Teknekron Software Systems		... burke@tss.com
  	phone:(415) 617-2432			... uunet!tekbspa!burke
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,misc.books.technical,alt.discrimination
From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Subject: Re: Waldenbooks fires staff for refusing to sell racist book!
Organization: /etc/organization
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 07:15:36 GMT


In article <1992Sep14.232201.9646@news.acns.nwu.edu>
dowdy@tochtli.biochem.nwu.edu (Dowdy Jackson) writes:
>
> Like I stated in a previos posting... There isn't a black history/
> interest section in many bookstores in white areas. So why isn't that
> censorship as defined by the postings I've seen so far ? Isn't the
> store manager suppressing my ability to obtain that information ? 

Uh, last I knew, Waldenbooks would special-order virtually any book in
print if they didn't have it in stock.  They would not be refusing to
sell it; they simply wouldn't be carrying it in stock because it would
not be of particular interest to the majority of their customers.

The difference is that you are saying they should *not* sell a book
which you consider "racist".  I, for one, enjoy the concept of a free
press; perhaps you do not.  

-- 
 \   Charles Hannum, mycroft@ai.mit.edu
 /\  White heterosexual atheist male (WHAM) pride!
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From: dhe@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Duanfeng He)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,alt.discrimination
Subject: Re: Waldenbooks fires staff for refusing to sell racist book!
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:31:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

<Bu8Gy7.FLM@sneaky.lonestar.org>

In <Bu8Gy7.FLM@sneaky.lonestar.org> gordon@sneaky.lonestar.org (Gordon
Burditt) writes:

>or in short, anything about sex, religion, politics, or government.

To append Gordon's interesting list:

Many scientific books (those involving evolution, and those involving
physics, which believe in something over and above evolution, in that
basically the universe started at some time, and for quite a period 
after there is no life anywhere);

Many educational books (There is a theory which claims "all I needed
in life I learnt in kindergarten", which I don't quite understand);

All those "love stories" sitting next to the "best sellers" (probably
has no positive effect on the society, but degenerates social values);

Things related to outerspace, or astronomy ("earth first");

Things related to medical research (probably aminal killing);

Things related to medical education (many of our medical practices
are not effective, not safe, or may not agree with some religion);

Things related to law (they either teach you to find a good lawyer,
which is bad for attorney haters; or they teach you to avoid lawyers,
which may be offensive to lawyers);

Things related to the economy (mostly only teaches you how to rob
the poor; the only exception is probably those by Karl Marx, which
are hated by everybody who do not hate those in the first catagory);

Do it yourself books (getting jobs away from the society, unsafe,
anti-union);


The list can go on and on.

The point I am trying to make is, so far this society as we know it
has been one of the freest among the nations.  Please don't ruin it
by making too many rules/regulations/exceptions or whatever you name
it.  I hated it when I couldn't find some "capitalist" books in a
socialist country.  And I would hate it equally bad if I cannot find
a "communist" book, or something else offensive in some different 
way, in this country.

Censorship treats adults as children.  It divides people into those
who censor and those who be censored.  This is a form of dictatorship.

And once on a road to dictatorship, there is no telling how far a
government, or a society, can go.

Disclaimer:  all said are my own.  They do not represent NCR/AT&T,
where I work, or the Chinese people in general, in which I am one.
-- 
Duanfeng He (Jackson)           Duanfeng.He@AtlantaGa.NCR.com
Newsgroups: misc.education
From: lwalsh@nemo (Laura L. Walsh)
Subject: mail order materials for gifted
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:34:06 GMT

I would like to know the names of companies that produce
a catalog of materials for the education of gifted children.
I am most interested in elementary and middle school aged
children.   Thanks.  Laura Walsh (lwalsh@nemo.life.uiuc.edu)
Newsgroups: misc.education
Subject: non-residency graduate programs - information needed!!
From: pkailasam@cstp.umkc.edu
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:44:14 GMT
Organization: UM - Kansas City, Computer Science

Hello,
	I need some information. I need to find a list of schools that
accept students either for the masters or doctorate program in computer
science/engineering with the following.

1.	Out of state residency.

That is the student can stay in another state and complete his education
by coming to school like every alternate semester or correspond to his
adviser by an apporopriate manner.

2.	 This is for an International student and hence has to be fulltime for
that student to maintain his status. (If partime info is available, please do
mail it to me)

Any information would be appreciated.

PK

Apologies if this is not the right group.

Newsgroups: misc.education,comp.edu
From: dons@is.ussprint.com (Don Stadler)
Subject: Re: Preparation for programming
Organization: US Sprint-IS
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:03:16 GMT

peterd@pjd.dev.cdx.mot.com (Peter Desnoyers) writes:
>dlhpfm!dlh@NCoast.org (daniel lance herrick) writes:
 
>>> Somebody else wrote:
>>> 
>>> >>      People who just study books and ace tests make poor
>>> >>      business employees but fairly good academics, i.e. LOT'S of
>>> >>      theory but little experience to back that theory up.

I don't know. I studied for the GMAT using the usual "reference" books from 
WaldenBooks. Aced it. But I regard myself as a damned good programmer
and manager. I think that an effective person can make it in both worlds.
I think the myth comes from that old idea of academic as recluse.

As regards more conventional learning, I've found that I tend to learn
best from the writings of the best thinkers (NOT textbooks). Theory AND
practice.
 
>Funny, my impression was that such people tended to succeed in the
>commercial world, but had a hard time making it through college to get
>there. Sheer persistence will accomplish a lot of things as a manager
>or marketer or some other MBA-oriented professional, but it won't prove
>a theorem.

I have succeeded in the commercial world, but didn't have much problem
in school either. It's not either or. Persistence is very valuable.
Even a natural genius isn't of much use without it. It takes years of
hard work to do what Einstein and Tesla did.

>It's sort of frustrating to realize that that student who could never
>figure out calculus but was president of 5 different campus
>organizations is probably going to be your boss someday.

>                                Peter Desnoyers

Tch, Tch, Peter. Snobbery. Your boss may well be the fellow who figured out
calculus AND was president of 5 different campus groups! In any case, calculus
isn't critical to the vast majority of tasks done in the workaday world. Being
able to organize, help, and motivate other people is..... A critical ability
in technical settings is to be able to pick up a book and learn in a day enough
to be effective in solving a problem.

				Don Stadler
Newsgroups: misc.education
From: ralph@sundeck.megatek.com (Ralph Wickwire)
Subject: Looking for Ancient GPA Software (in BASIC)
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:58:26 GMT

I have a Sharp PC-1250 Pocket Computer that did
have a Grade Point Average software package in its
memory. The software has been used very much.
It has been lost recently from the memory,
and we don't have a known backup of the software. 
It is missed. 

If anyone has any information on the Company who 
originally wrote the software (Mdata?), the programmer,
(Bruce TerHer? - was living in Grand Rapids MI), or
the program (GPA? - figures gpa from transcripts)
I would be most appreciative. The software and computer
are probably 10 to 15 years old.

I am asking for a friend, please reply by email
to ralph@megatek.uucp  - 

Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: misc.education
From: lwalsh@nemo (Laura L. Walsh)
Subject: Re: Demise of honor programs in public high schools
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:39:41 GMT

dlhanson@nap.amoco.com (David L. Hanson) writes:
>In article <1992Sep12.212458.5571@jlc.mv.com> john@jlc.mv.com (John Leslie) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep9.213509.7219@bostech.com> (Leon Story) writes:
>>> If it's so impossible to provide superior education to a class which
>>> contains very bright (and motivated) and very slow kids, then why not
>>> give the supposedly bright ones the assignment of getting the slow
>>> ones up to speed (in motivation, in skills, and in comprehension)?
>>> Surely that's one of the greatest challenges they'll ever face.

It may, in fact, be difficult, but it requires the patience and tact
that takes many years to develop, i.e., even adults find it difficult
to teach.  Some never can.  So too with bright, motivated children.
Some can learn to do it.  Others find it too onerous.  It is therefore
not a possible general solution, even if it were desirable (which I
don't think it is.)

>>   Herman Rubin makes a tacit assumption that the top students will
>>learn most efficiently when they are separated.  My experience hints
>>it ain't so...  Most people seem to learn best while explaining something
>>to an avid student.

>I would like some "proof" that holding the brightest children in a class
>so they can teach the others helps the brightest ones achieve more.
>My experience and common sense indicates otherwise.  It seems to me that
>taking time away from the studies of the brightest will not help them.
>Holding them back with easier material will not help them to learn more.
>(And don't try the "cooperation" skills argument.) 

This group discussed this once before.  It seems that research shows
that children learn best when the material is just a little too
difficult for them, i.e., when they have to work at learning.  This
goes for ALL children, as far as anyone can tell.  

I don't buy the cooperation-skills argument either.  Two bright kids
working on a project have to learn cooperation and how to explain
the subject, too, but they might also learn some new subject matter
along the way.

My bias:  my daughter spent most of last year waiting for the class
to catch up.  One wasted year in my opinion.

>David L. Hanson          Home school - it works for us!
>Teacher, Grace Christian Academy (home school) 

Laura Walsh               Now we are trying private school.
								  Much better.
From: almstrum@cs.utexas.edu (Vicki L. Almstrum)
Newsgroups: misc.education
Subject: Re: Educational "Pack" for Schools
Summary: How to order NASA materials
Date: 8 Sep 92 02:17:01 GMT
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <prypbttt@csv.warwick.ac.uk> esrne@warwick.ac.uk (Mr P I Neaves) writes:
>I seem to remember when I was at school (approx. 11 yrs old) that
>one of the teachers sent away for an educational pack about the space
>program, solar system etc from (I think) NASA.
>
>A few questions.
>1. Do they still do this ?
>2. Will it cost money ?
>3. Does anyone have an address (email or snail mail).

This past March I went to the Houston Space Center for the first time.
They had a special office for distribution of educational materials, and
I noted the address for requesting information:

    NASA Johnson Space Center
    AP4 / Education Dept.
    Houston, TX  77058
    USA

The request must be typed on school letter-head stationary.  As far as
I could tell, there is no charge for this service.

-- Vicki

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From: kuchan@rtsg.mot.com (Joseph M. Kuchan)
Subject: FTP sites for educational software?
Summary: FTP sites for educational software?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: global
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:23:29 GMT

I'll bet that this a a frequently asked question, but does anyone know of
ftp sites that have educational software for the PC?

Thanks in advance for any help!


-- 
Joe Kuchan,    Motorola - Wireless Enterprise Systems	*
3205 Wilke Road, Arlington Heights, IL 60004		*
kuchan@whitefish.rtsg.mot.com				*
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Newsgroups: misc.education
From:  alik@cpuv1.net.kiae.su
Subject:    
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Organization: KIAE
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Newsgroups: misc.education
From: pschwrtz@lynx.cs.washington.edu (Paul Schwartz)
Subject: making up tests
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering Dept., Univ. of Washington, Seattle
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 03:59:16 GMT

	Does anybody have any sources on how to go about making up good
tests in the social sciences or humanities on the community college level?
	If so could you please email to pschwrtz@lynx.cs.washington.edu or
voice phone (206)-782-6999.

Thank You
	Paul Schwartz

--
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Paul Schwartz       pschwrtz@lynx.cs.washington.edu


Newsgroups: misc.education
From: lwalsh@nemo (Laura L. Walsh)
Subject: Re: combined elem classes
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:52:15 GMT

tab@tfs.com (Theresa Breckon) writes:

>Has anyone heard of the practice of combining grades in elementary
>school?

>A friend of mine has his son enrolled in a public Huntington beach
>school. His soon attended this school for first grade, parents were
>very happy with the school, son did very well. Now, in second grade,
>they find out their son has been "selected" to be placed in a 
>combined 1st/2nd grade class. Confused because of their son's high
>placement in 1st grade, the parents talked to the administrator at
>the school. The administrator said special bright students who worked
>well alone were selected for this class, i.e. it wasn't made up of
>"slow" 2nd graders.

>My friend is very concerned with this situation. While he did say
>that the class seemed smaller then the other 2nd grade clases, he
>was worried about his child sharing a classroom with 1st graders,
>repeating things he had learned last year, etc.

>Anyone familiar with this practice? Any comments, reassurances, or
>warnings welcome. THanks in advance.

I have taught mixed grade classes and my daughter has been in mixed
grade classes.  In some cases they work well, some work indifferently
and in one case, my daughter's, it worked not at all.  If the material
is designed to be challenging at several levels, if the curriculum
is really different from year to year, and if the teacher is not
adverse to individualization, it can be wonderful.  If any of these
things is not true, you need to be much more careful.

Laura Walsh (lwalsh@nemo.life.uiuc.edu)