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From: duehara@yosemite.math.ucla.edu (Dana Uehara)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Tim Curry
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:39:49 GMT
Organization: Toonaholics Anonymous

And the list goes on...

I've verified that Tim Curry does the voice of Taurus Bulba from the "Darkwing
Duck" series.  I think I've also seen his name on the end credits of the "Goof
Troop" series but I'm not sure (although one of the GT shows had a Rocky Horror
Picture Show reference in it! :-O)

What's remarkable to me is that Taurus Bulba, who sounds similar to "Peter Pan
& The Pirates"'s Captain Hook, sounds nothing like Dr. Frank-n-Furter.

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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: BTAS: 10/09  The Forgotten
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 03:04:32 GMT

I liked the Studebaker too...even recognized it from the studies of Studebakers
I did when designing the Boat of Car for They Might Be Villains (racm'ers and 
lnhers will know what I mean).
     The sinking ship looked so lame, IMO, because the waves were only semi- 
animated.  It was really cheesy looking to have this stationary wave matte with
animated bits over it.
     Dave, another post to follow immediately after (oh joy)
From: curts@tmpcu.mdc.com (Curt Schroeder)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: WANTED: Prince Valiant episode list
Date: 15 Oct 1992 11:49:31 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway


Fellow animation fans,

I need some help.  I had a copy of most (or maybe all) of the Prince Valiant
episodes (from the Family Channel).  Unfortunately, the tape with the first
17 episodes and the list of the titles disappeared at a convention that I had
loaned it to (for the video room).  What I really need, is a list of the
episode titles (preferebly in the original story order), so that as I reclaim
episodes I can reassemble my collection in some assemblance of order.

Please reply via email, as I do not always have time to read this group.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for your help.

Curt

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From: bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: TINY TOONS Upcoming Episodes! (FurryMUCK gone? Christmas special!)
Date: 10 Oct 1992 06:11:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews)
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In a previous article, rjung@aludra.usc.edu (Robert Jung) says:

>Warner Bros. will stop producing new episodes of TINY TOON ADVENTURES after
>the 1992-1993 season. 

They're producing them now?  I have yet to see one.  Perhaps I've been
unlucky, but it always seems to be a first season rerun.  Last year,
which I had though to be the "2nd" season, was the same way.  When TTA
moved to Fox, I thought.  "Oh, that's why.  They suspended production
while they negotiated their new home."   But nothing's changed.  I'm
still seeing the same old crap every afternoon.

["NEW" (hahahahahahahachucklegagchoke) season deleted]

Ten new episodes?!  That's IT?  And they call that a new season?

I had thought that "THE PLUCKY DUCK" show would be new stuff.  Nope, more
reruns.  (Oh, right.  ONE new short.  Cheez...)

I'm sorry, but I feel that this spits on the fans of the show.  Apparently,
the folks at WB think that the audience for TTA consists mostly of people
who are too stupid to notice that they've seen it before.  They're sill
pushing the show as if it was new.  I thought that even young children get
bored of watching the same stuff.

I hope to God that they don't pull the same stunt with Batman.  If something
is worth doing, its worth continuing.

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From: maci9154@mach1.wlu.ca (macivor dawna)
Subject: Re: Batman the cartoon
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:09:04 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.184820.21586@wam.umd.edu> sammie@next16pg2.wam.umd.edu (Sammie L. Garvin) writes:
>If you have ever seen the animated Batman on the Fox Network I think that  
>a lot of people would agree that the cartoon sucks.  I'd rather look at  
>Beetlejuice if you know what I mean.

To be honest, I'd rather watch the BATMAN THE ANIMATED SERIES cartoon than
BEETLEJUICE.  I hope a lot of other people enjoy it as much as my roommates
and I do!  (But if I had a choice I'd be watching Bugs Bunny cartoons.)  

No, I don't know what you mean - "I'd rather look at Beetlejuice".  But to
each his own! 

Toons are forever! =)

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach)
Subject:  BTAS: 9/6 Prophecy of Doom
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:35:55 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.183920.1@cgsvax.claremont.edu>, walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu writes:
> 
> The animation was below average, the plot was cliched, and the
> writing was just plain dreadful.

Now, now.  It wasn't THAT bad.  I still say "Feat of Clay, part I" was
worse.

 9/ 6	Prophecy of Doom			AKOM	Nostromo

	Nostromo the psychic is starting a cult where only the
	wealthiest of Gotham are admitted.  Batman decides to stop
	his operation, and goes in as Bruce Wayne.

So-so episode.  I suspect I would have disliked it less if it had better
animation.  Nothing on the writing to make me angry, but nothing to cheer
either.
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From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: ren & stimpy
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:28:52 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

This message was from BUZZ DIXON to BILL WARREN,
and was forwarded to you by ERIC WALKER.
                    -------------------------
BW>CH     Too offensive to broadcast on Nickelodeon?  Sounds like they'd be
BW>CHalmost offensive enough to satisfy my appetites.  I gotta see 'em!!!  
BW>                                                                         
BW>....unless you watch the show on MTV, which intends to broadcast all
BW>episodes.

I saw "Man's Best Friend" on tape; this REN & STIMPY episode has some of
the most bnrilliant and most ugly work that John K. has ever done.

It's a story bout dysfunctional familes, and Kricfaluci managed to
create a completely believable set of nerve-popping internal dynamics
[basic story:  George Liquor, American sociopath, buys Ren & Stimpy as
pets then tortures them mentally with all sorts of contradictory rules
and behavior until finally Ren snaps and attempts to kill George with a
cold plated oar].

The brilliant part were the family dynamics (which leads me to speculate
John K. has intimate knowledge of a dysfunctional family, either his own
or someone he knew and could opbserve closely) and some absolutely
hilarious gags that came from so far out of left field as to leave me
gasping for breath.

But...

The ugly stuff is REAL ugly.  There's an awful lot of fecal humor in
this show (cellophane wrapped doggie treats called "Lawn Cigars" shaped
and colored to look just like you know what).  There are places where
the pacing falls off complete just so John K. could rub Nick's nose in
it.  Even John Waters never went this far.  It went way beyond shock
value (where you could say, okay, John K. went for a gag but is
misfired) into just plain tiresome.

I think "Man's Best Friend" could be fixed and turned into an absolutely
brilliant cartoon, but as it exists now, I'm not at all surprised Nick
declined to air it and gave John K. the boot.

Buzz
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From: slf@netcom.com (Sharon Fisher)
Subject: Re: Knick Knack?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:42:50 GMT

Knick Knack was done by John Lasseter at Pixar.  I believe they sell
tapes of their videos.

The two men punching each other is probably by Bill Plympton.
From: rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: PLEASE START BTAS Newsgroup!!!
Date: 17 Oct 92 01:39:59 GMT
Return-Path: <amail.amdahl.com!rich.bellacera@juts.ccc.amdahl.com>

I really do think it's time for all you BATMAN: The Animated Series fans
to start your own NEW newsgroup or newsletter.  It's true that the series is
well made, but it seems as tho 98% of the postings to r.a.a. are BTAS
related.  Perhaps there will come a time when the amount of postings devoted
to this topic will settle down, but the time is not now.

Perhaps "rec.arts.animation.batman"  or better yet a totally "Batman" related
NG for all aspects (i.e. Batman movies, T.V. series, comics, et al.), but
since very few are respecting the "kill" thread mandates for the subject lines
its making those of us who wish to "kill" the subject unable to do so.  Please
move to a new group.

Thank you very much.
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: Batman the cartoon
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 01:21:06 GMT

"Alot" is a loaded word.  "Alot" of people think the former Soviet Union is 
laying in wait for us to get lazy, then it will suddenly reform and crush us.  
But most people don't think so.  "Alot" of people think pineapple and sardine 
pizzas are great.  I doubt that most do.  And certainly "Alot" of people don't 
like BTAS.  But it seems most do.
     Dave Van Domelen, one of the "alot" of people who understand the basis of 
General Relativity }->
From: johnsonchris@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Review LTV 2:3, Liquid People
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:45:50 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

>>Had the same sound problems as "JacMac and Radboy".  You can't make out any
>>of the dialogue.  Looked nice.
>>
> 
> Hey, I have never had a problem understanding "JacMac and Radboy"!
> Course, I saw it before it was on MTV/Ltv...

  Yeah, I saw it a long time ago on Night Flight.  Never understood the 
dialogue but loved the cartoon.  Now, after seeing it a few times, I can 
almost fully understand the dialogue.  Roadkill Possum is still a mystery, 
though.
> 
> What, no "Winter Steele" fans?

  I absolutely hated Winter Steele in the first season (well, Art School 
Girls of Doom was worse, but hey).  The only episode I did like was Damn 
Hippies, I think.  But this season I'm beginning to get a better taste for 
it.  It's not down on the bottom of my list (with Thomas and Nardo.)

  The thing I can't understand is why so many people are slamming Billy and 
Bobby.  I think that part is great.  I think many people don't realize that 
it's a take-off on those old childrens books that school's had from the 
fifties and sixties (Dick and Jane, etc.) that had cutesy kids doing 
activities in the snow, etc.  Just that it gets a cruel and demented twist. 
Anyone noticed the older kid fondling himself everytime the little kids 
bent over in the Camping Fun episode?  Sick sick funny.
 
  On anthoer Animation topic.  Anyone seen the new computer animation from 
the guy who did Penspermia(sp?)?  It's called Liquid People, and I saw a 
glimpse of it last night on some PBS show.  Pretty amazing all the liquid 
effects he did in it.  Also, I love the way there's a prismatic glisten on 
some of the glass and liquid shapes in it.  Awesome.

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From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: hanna-barbera (was: w
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:35:05 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

MWD>   - And so, having disposed of the monster, thus exit our hero through
MWD>   - the front door. None the worse for his horrifying experience.

     That's HARROWING experience.  According to Roget's Thesaurus, it
     stands for "nerve-wracking, distressing, wrenching, tragic.  See
     PAIN."

     "And so, having RE-disposed of the monster, exit our hero..."
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: voice of mad hatter
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:29:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsl.1992Oct16.172947.4812
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <srh3.719253477@Ra.MsState.Edu>, srh3@Ra.MsState.Edu (Steven R. Hollis) writes:
>    I erased the credits on this one.  Who did the voice for the hatter?

Roddy McDowall (sp?).  Great job too, natch.

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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: Zafar's Review Machine--BTAS: "Heart of Ice"
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:17:01 GMT

One point you should have mentioned is that it is Ferris *Boyle*.  As opposed 
to Mr. *Freis*.  An fairly obvious pairing, but should be mentioned for the 
synopsis.
     In The Forgotten, Alfred said "I claim this land...for Spain."  Probably 
(but nothing is certain in this world) a jab at the multitude of 1492-type 
movies this year.  Also, Smith was about to be put in the box, and Reilly was 
fighting to keep him out.  But Reilly and Bats were the ones to go in.
     Dave Van Domelen, I'm sure Fox will give Wolvie plenty of robots to carve 
up.
     P.S. Jackson Pollock paint-by-number...BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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From: mwdenney@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Michael W. Denney)
Subject: Re: The ORIGINAL "Tiny Toons" (was: Sylvester's Son)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:09:34 GMT

In article <m0mcA3P-000151C@juts.ccc.amdahl.com> rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com writes:
>
>Karl Myers asks:
>"Could Junior {Sylvester, Jr.} be considered the first "Tiny Toon"?
>
>I'd say, based on the logic you are using to make your assumption (which is
>perfectly fine by me) then little Sylvester, Jr. would have to share that
>honor with Porky's nephew, Cicero Pig, Bug's nephew, Clyde Bunny and possibly
>a couple other minor characters from these old toons.
>
If you're considering all the old Warner Brother's then Baby Buggsy Bunny and
Baby Elmer from "Potrait of the Author as a Young Bunny", Foghorn and Dawg's
grandsons, and of course Henrey Chickenhawk and Miss Prissy's son.

Michael
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  - tell me to shutup, I shutup.  I'm not one to keep talking.  Once when
  - I was young I nearly starved to death...Wouldn't tell them I was hungry!
From: Tadd.Larsen@psycho.fidonet.org (Tadd Larsen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: response to your tinytoons message
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 00:54:40 EDT
Organization: Psycho: The Usenet<->Fidonet Gateway of St. Pete Florida

John, 
 
  I understand what you're saying about how alot of kids wouldn't understand some of the stuff on tinytoons because I'm 16 and I don't understand a lot of it.  I usually ask my big brother.  But, anyway, thanx for the message.  You brought some things to my attention that I did'nt even know about.

                                   C-Ya,

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From: btribble@terapin.com (Bobby Tribble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Review of LTV show 2:3
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:46:28 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <1992Oct7.162349.15738@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com
>
>> The "Bobby and Billy" skit I can't stand... I guess it just hits me wrong.
>
>It's just stupid.  Cut-up Camera with nicer art.
>
>> "The Killing of an Egg" was okay, but it should've been cut long before
>> it was... there was no need to run through the entire sequence again.
>
>Uh-uh.  The punchline depends on both sequences being the same.  Maybe if
>they had paced it quicker or made the core sequence shorter...

Part one: I dunno, I like it...maybe it's because of the anti-family-values
sex&violence...maybe because one of the characters has my name :)

Part two: My solution - take the whole cartoon out!  Really, though, they could
have either had the guy say less things or go through the first part and then
hear the knock and start saying the same things and end it making the viewer
wonder what happened...

I too like the Specialists, the Jack Benny villan was great! I like that the
show doesn't take itself seriously and has plot gaps (like what happened to get
them out of the anti-matter world?)

Bobby Tribble  |8')
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From: xorcist@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR animation
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 15:21:12 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny) writes:

> The mention of Don Bluth animation made me remember one of my all-time
> hugest wishes...for the laser-disks of the arcade games DRAGON'S LAIR
> and DRAGON'S LAIR II to come out in complete format.  Y'know, playing
> from beginning to end (perhaps with all of the "deaths" played as a tag
> on at the end?).
>
> Does anyone know where I could obtain a copy of this or if such copies
> exist (if not, why?)...etc.
>
> Info, info, info?

I have Dragon's Lair, the original laser disk. Interesting... Neato
back metal plate cover to prevent warping. Now that's cool...

<X>orcist

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From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Robert Stephen Rodgers)
Subject: Re: "BoB" Owns Speilberg (Subgenius Influence in TTA)
Keywords: Bob,subgenius,Xist
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:15:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.133229.6710@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@seahorse.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>I was unable to tape this episode, so I have never verified it. 
>I thought "BoB" had infiltrated most of the media corporations a long
>time ago. And what was all the Sub-G fliers stapled to telephone poles
>in the first season of "Super Force"?

	I thought I was the only one who caught it.  

<Superforce isn't on around here anymore, anyway>

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From: mwdenney@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Michael W. Denney)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: alt.tv.batman
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:26:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.120109.16836@terminator.cc.umich.edu> roger@itl.itd.umich.edu (Roger Espinosa) writes:
>
>Or doesn't anyone else remember the 1970s half-hour show, where we
>(at least I) was introduced to that lovable Bat-Mite? ;-)
>
>At least I'm pretty sure it was Filmation. Had the same style, the same
>feel, and the same flips as Tarzan. :-)
>
You're talking about The Adventures of Batman which WAS a Fimation production.
Bit-Mite came along in a later revamp of the show called appropriately enough:
The New Adventures of Batman.  You're reference to Tarzan is practically proof
of your psychic powers.  There was also a Batman/Tarzan Adventure Hour produced
by Fimation.

Michael
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Review LTV 2:3, Liquid People
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:46:13 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <1992Oct15.124550.2350@bvc.edu>, johnsonchris@bvc.edu writes:
> 
> I think many people don't realize that it's a take-off on those old
> childrens books that school's had from the fifties and sixties that
> had cutesy kids doing activities in the snow, etc.

Oh that's obvious.  It's just that the segment has bad animation, and
uses the tried-and-true trick of substituting offensiveness instead of
creativity.  Feh.

> Anyone noticed the older kid fondling himself everytime the little kids 
> bent over in the Camping Fun episode?  Sick sick funny.

That was no older kid.  That was the camp's manager/counselor/whatever.

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From: mwdenney@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Michael W. Denney)
Subject: Re: Knick Knack?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:50:27 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.154954.1@cgsvax.claremont.edu> walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu writes:
>
>I don't remember the name of the festival).  The short was called "Knick
>Knack" and concerned the adventures of a snowman trying to get out of one of
>those water-filled plastic balls that you shake to make it snow.  I
>believe it was computer animated.
>  Can anybody tell me if it's available on tape.

I don't know about its availability on tape but that cartoon has been playing
lately in movie theaters before the feature.  For some reason, Asoona (?)       (ah-sun-a) is being promoted by showing computer animation followed by a quick
plug for the car (simply stating its name).  I really don't know why they think
this is a good sales technique, since I can't imagine a lot of people recogniz-
ing Assona as a make of car or remembering the name, but they don't interrupt
the cartoon at all so I'm not complaining. (Incidently the other cartoon I've
seen in this format involves two desk lamps playing with a ball)

Michael
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From: bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: x-men promos
Date: 14 Oct 1992 03:01:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews)
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In a previous article, maverick+@CMU.EDU (Chris Holly) says:

>From: bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews):
>
>>One of the best things about X-MEN when Claremont was writing it was the
>>"edge" it had.  The X-Men were not happy heroes, indeed, they weren't even
>>seen as heroes by most of the public.

>    One of the main subplots of the new X-men series is rumored to be
>the false accusal, arrest, and conviction of the beast.  How is that for
>"happy heroes" and prototypical good guys.

And at the end it will all be cleared up and they'll all live happily ever
after, won't they?  I stand by my original argument.

			---------- Ryan Mathews
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