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From: LABBEY@GTRI01.BITNET (Lenny)
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Subject: Re: 500th Anniversary of the Admiral's Voyage
Date: 15 Oct 92 03:06:51 GMT
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              14 Oct 1992 20:36:27 -0400 from <BROWNH@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>

Haines, I understand your points about Columbus (I think), but how could
you possibly think of his personal acomplishment as petty?  At the very
least you must admit that he did something which no one had done for over
500 years (crossed the Atlantic).  This is not petty.

I think you are not even trying to be objective.   Come on...the 60's are
over.  There just isn't any profit in being a professional whiner for your
entire life.

Lenny
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:36:59 PDT
From:         "Don W." <webbd@CCVAX.CCS.CSUS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Columbus
Comments: To: HISTORY@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu

>Don, I think that today's youth do not really appreciate what "genocide"
>means.  They haven't seen it in action, as some of our older members
>have.
>
>People who have seen it do not bandy the word about.  It is not a catch-
>phrase, it is a horror.
>
>Lenny

Or perhaps not learned of it for the first time, at first hand,
as an earlier generation did, in WW II.  Magnitude is irrelevant
here; it is a horror in any proportion, because, as I implied,
it is willed, not accidental.  The worse horror would be that
our 20th century -- the "century of fear," as Camus called it --
might become inured to it.

As a contribution to the semi-millennial anniversary of the
contact of hemispheres, a quotation, whose truth is equally
durable, no doubt:

"Nous voguons sur un milieu vaste, toujours incertains et
flottants, pousse's d'un bout vers l'autre.  Quelque terme
ou' nous pensions nous attacher et nous affermir, il branle
et nous quitte; et si nous le suivons, il echappe a' nos prises,
nous glisse et fuit d'une fuite eternelle." -- Pascal, _Pense'es_

Tel Colomb, telle l'histoire...

Don W. (DonWebb@CSUS.EDU)
From: LABBEY@GTRI01.BITNET (Lenny)
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Subject: Re: Medieval-bashing (Was: Columbus)
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:23:09 GMT
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Come on!  I'm middle aged myself!

Lenny
From: ST402747@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (dave pretty)
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Subject: Re: Novels & History
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:55:49 GMT
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There have been some great suggestions (I wrote my best freshman year history
paper using _Daughter of Time_ as the main source) but the most astounding
historical novel I have read, as great literature, as a great read, and as a
work which thoughtfully deals with most of the issues, methodological and
philosophical, which have confronted historians in last couple of decades, is
Vargas Llosa's _War of the End of the World_, which is based on a real work of
history (Euclides da Cunha, The Backlands, which is Brazil's Gibbon), about a
millenarian revolt in the backlands behind Bahia in the 1890s.
       Like most of Vargas Llosa's work for the last decade plus, it is an
attempt to deal with the here-and-now, namely the Sendero Luminoso (remember,
VL was the guy who lost to Fujimori in Peru's last presidential election. But
beyond that, his whole oeuvre demands attention, and IMHO he is the man who,
now that Graham Greene is dead, most deserves the Nobel who hasn't gotten it.
It may be a bit too glib to say that he is Tolstoy to Garcia Marquez's
Dostoevsky, but he really is the historian's novelist.

                                    Dave Pretty
                                    st402747@brownvm
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:44:42 PDT
From:         "Don W." <webbd@CCVAX.CCS.CSUS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Columbus
Comments: To: HISTORY@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu

>> Greetings to list members on this, the 500th anniversary of the most
>> important single event in the history of the human race.
>>
>> Lenny

Not sure I agree with Lenny about that, but when it comes to
the most imp't event in history, take your pick, everybody.

>        You mean to tell me that this list celebrates the occasion of the
>  beginning of history's greatest genocide by that archetypical dead white
>  Eurocentric pig Columbus.  How impolitically incorrect can you get!  How
>  insensitive, monistic, positivistic and just plain evil!  NOT!
>  Kelly Richter

Impolitically incorrect... that deserves an award of some sort.
I usually manage to be impolitic or incorrect, but Lenny has
achieved both at once?  Is that one of the impossible thoughts
the Red Queen thinks before breakfast?  Btw, Kelly, pls rush
how-to-do-it manuals on being monistic and positivistic.  I'm
woefully out of practice.

Query: is genocide by definition intentional or can it be
accidental?  Sub-queries:  I've heard that an enormous
depopulation occurred in the Americas because of the introduction
of European diseases.  How have the figures been arrived at?
Also, has not Columbus also become, ironically, a latter-day
"victim"?  Apparently his career was one of great achievement
and great tragedy.  But if he had not been the first to
publicize, at least, his discovery of land to the west,
would not the honor have gone to another?  And sooner,
rather than later?  In sum, how much did Columbus personally
change the course of history?

Still, the lessons of First Contact may be beginning to be
learned.  "Non-interference" is Star Trek's "prime directive."
And the radio telescope array that went on line today must be
turning a wary ear to the outer dark: what happened in the
Americas may happen to Earth, for the same reasons.

At the risk of a little irreverence and with a twist that
Don Mabry will appreciate, I've just rec'd a message from
Natalie Maynor with a UK address.  She's still in Starkville.
I've kidded her that the first message from outer space will
come from Barnard's Star: "Just doing a little interstellar
net-hopping tonight. -- Natalie."

Happy 500th birthday to the New World.  And happier ones
to come.

Don W. (DonWebb@CSUS.EDU)
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Date:         Sat, 10 Oct 1992 20:58:00 EDT
From:         DGPAZ@CLEMSON.BITNET
Subject:      Hoseheads (Was: smilies)

On Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:44:10 EDT corrigible <2893684@QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA>
said:

> "Hoser" was supposed to be a generic term for all Canadians or rather
> Canadians who wear parkas, eat back-bacon, drink copious amounts of beer
> and say "eh" at the end of each sentence.                             ed

In England, back bacon is more expensive and more desireable
than streaky bacon; the closest we in the USA have to back
bacon is called Canadian bacon. What do you make of that, eh?

Denis Paz
dgpaz@clemson.bitnet
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:05:00 EST
From:         YONI@BROWNCOG.BITNET
Subject:      Ftp Sites

Does anyone know whether Harvard or Yale carry FTP sites of educational interest
involving history?
Thanks
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:11:44 PDT
From:         "Don W." <webbd@CCVAX.CCS.CSUS.EDU>
Subject:      Smilie dictionary
Comments: To: HISTORY@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu

>Can you give the reference for the smiley article in the WSJ? TNX
>Agnes

The subject has been pretty well exhausted with the posting of
the very entertaining emoticon glossaries recently, but for
the record, you can also obtain a file of them from
sumex-aim: FTP 36.44.0.6 cd info-mac cd report
11165 Dec 18  1991 smilie-dictionary.txt

Don W. (DonWebb@CSUS.EDU)
From: LABBEY@GTRI01.BITNET (Lenny)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Subject: Re: Constellations
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:24:29 GMT
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              15 Oct 1992 20:51:33 +1000 from <med@LINGUA.CLTR.UQ.OZ.AU>

Mythology was important to everyone because nobody knew exactly where it
fit into the scheme of things.  It might be of religious importance,
magic may be real, there were a million posibilities.

So no one dared not to believe it.

Lenny
From: DA_AZIZ@FANDM.BITNET (VAX GREMLIN)
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Subject: Re: WINDO ALERT no more, please
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:24:55 GMT
Organization: Franklin and Marshall College
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Date sent:  7-OCT-1992 13:18:31
>Can we please have an end to WINDO or whatever?  IMHO, messages of this sort
>seriously strain--in an injurious fashion--the notion of what this list is
>supposed to be.
   Well, Ken I can't agree with u. This list is about history but it's also
about historians go about their business, which in most cases involves
research, and if the WINDO bill is passed, then the ability to do research
electronically would be greatly improved. I personally find these posts
interesting and infomative, if for no other reason they give us a glimps into
the future and show us what we will/might be able to do in a few year via our
computers. Besides, they are easy enough to be picked out for easy deletion by
the subject line. And, knowing our dear list owner Thomas, he'll allow them to
continue b/c he doesn't like to restrict what can and can't be posted here
(smart man that Thomas! :-)) And I'll take a WINDO posting any day over some of
the other stuff which comes our way (Cau$e$ of WAR anyone?) ;-)
Debbie Aziz, who uses those darned smilies a whole bunch.
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From: MAINT2@ERS.BITNET (Ken Koester)
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Subject: Re: 500 Anniversary of the Admiral's Voyage
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:22:01 GMT
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              14 Oct 1992 18:34:52 -0400 from <BROWNH@CCSUA.CTST ATEU.EDU>

On Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:34:52 -0400 <BROWNH@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU> said:
>. . . .  A while back on
>this list there was a discussion of democracy. There was a frightening
>unwillingness or inability to defend it. I know a few quaint monarchists,
>but the choice today, despite Perot perhaps, is not between monarchy and
>democracy, but between democracy and fascism.
>
>Haines Brown (brownh@ccsua.ctstateu.edu)

Does this thread mean we are now going to experience 100 different definitions
of just what democracy is?  :-)

I think this is where I got on, back in February, and if so, it is nearly time
to assert that property is theft (for Lenny's benefit, of course!).
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1992 12:07:40 -0500
From:         Bob Rogers <rogers@SOL.INSTRUMENTAL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Columbus
Comments: To: HISTORY@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu

> From: "Don W." <webbd@CCVAX.CCS.CSUS.EDU>
>
> Still, the lessons of First Contact may be beginning to be
> learned.  "Non-interference" is Star Trek's "prime directive."
> And the radio telescope array that went on line today must be
> turning a wary ear to the outer dark: what happened in the
> Americas may happen to Earth, for the same reasons.

The lesson of the First Contact is "kill the space creatures as soon as they
enter the solar system"!


--------------------------------------------------------
Bob Rogers            Internet:  rogers@instrumental.com
Instrumental, Inc.    GEnie:     R.C.ROGERS
Minneapolis, MN       Phone:     612-920-6188
From: webbd@CCVAX.CCS.CSUS.EDU (Don W.)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Subject: RE: Quoting Messages
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:48:48 GMT
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>        I'm on a VAX system, and I would like to know how to put other people's
>messages in my messages with the ">" before them.  Can anyone help me?
>________________
>Jim Causey
>J_CAUSEY@CCNODE.Colorado.EDU

At the risk of repeating others' helpful advice, here's how:
At any point in the message, type at the MAIL> prompt
REPLY/EXTRACT/EDIT or R/EXT/ED.  REPLY will send the message
to the last sender, i.e. the list, if there is one (you can
check the address, which is reproduced as the message is
quoted).  EXTRACT quotes  the message with >'s, and EDIT
puts you in line-edit mode.

Make sure you know the commands for edit mode; they're
quite different from the others.

You can also multiply commands.  You might want to keep
a copy of your message and send one to someone else.
And change the subject line.  In that case, type:
REPLY/EXTRACT/EDIT/SELF/CC/SUBJECT="New subject" or
R/EXT/ED/SELF/CC/SUB="..."  That'll keep VAX busy for a while.

Maybe too busy.  I'd be glad to send you advice, offlist,
on editing commands, but someone here forgot to feed the mice.
That is, the ones who spin their cages and keep the mailserver
up and running.  A correspondent of mine reports receiving
a message three weeks late.  Not a record.  I'm still waiting
for one that's three years overdue.

Cheers,

Don W. (DonWebb@CSUS.EDU)
From: CAMPBELLD@APSU.BITNET (CAMPBELL-JENSEN)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Subject: Re: Pennsylvania Senate Race
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:48:00 GMT
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Congressional Quarterly Weekly Report (often kept in Gov't Docs,
even though it is a privately published news magazine like TIME)
has superb coverage of all Senate, House, Governors races.
Richard Jensen U of Illinois Chicago CAMPBELLD@APSU.bitnet
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From:         "Julia C. Blixrud" <BLIXRUD@GWUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Citations for electronic communication

ISO/CD 10956 Information and Documentation-Bibliographic references -
Electronic documents or parts therof is a draft standard out for
review from the ISO/TC46/Subcommittee 9.  NISO is the U.S. Technical
Advisory Group to ANSI on the work of TC46 and many of us NISO members
have received that draft for comment.  This is the second draft.  The
draft specifies the elements to be included in bibliographic references
and it sets out a prescribed order for the elements.  It is intended for
use by authors and editors (and does not apply to full bibliographic
descriptions required by librarians, descriptive and analytic
bibliographers, etc.)
The draft covers computer programs, databases, electronic monographs,
electronic serials, bulletin board, and electronic mail.
For further information, I recommend you contact either NISO (at
P.O. Box 1056, Bethesda, MD 20827, 301-975-2814-voice, 301-869-8071-fax)
or the ISO/TC46/SC9 Secretariat (Office of Library Standards, National
Library of Canada, 395 Wellington St.,Ottawa, K1A ON4, CANADA
819-953-0191-fax)

Julia Blixrud, Program Officer
Council on Library Resources
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From:         "(Stu Weibel)" <stu@oclc.org>
Subject: Re: Definition of e-journal

The preparation and transmission of E-texts are in fact also vital
aspects of their character.  The preparation of scholarly text will
someday be very different than today, and the availability of text in
distributed networking environments will have a profound impact on the
way it is used and the economics of creation, storage, and distribution.


Stuart Weibel
OCLC Office of Research
From: MEDS002@UABDPO.BITNET (A.J. Wright)
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Date: 16 Oct 92 19:27:55 GMT
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Approved-By:  James Powell <JPOWELL@VTVM1.BITNET>

Ask three people and you'll probably get four "standards" on citing email, but
the one I use and recommend highly is:

Patrias, Karen. _National Library of Medicine Recommended Formats for Biblio-
  graphic Citation_. National Library of Medicine, 1991.

This 200pp work covers _everything_, including email, entire databases,
ejournals, computer files, cdroms, etc.

A.J. Wright
Clinical Librarian
Department of Anesthesiology Library
School of Medicine
University of Alabama at Birmingham
meds002@uabdpo
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From: ann@cni.org (Ann Okerson)
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Subject: Re: Definition of electronic journal
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:59:32 GMT
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              Oct 15, 92 2:41 pm

An electronic text (or journal) exists in an electronic master form.
That form (whether it begins with the first thoughts of the first author
or is created toward the end of the process from scribble on the backs
of envelopes) can be used to produce any distribution format at all:
audio for the blind, electronic networked, electronic CD, fax, standard
paper, articles. Thus, the "end product" of such a text or journal is not
archived paper; it is digitized and capable of becoming anything, flexibly,
fast.  The electronic form is the final, real one, an oxymoron to be sure,
since electronic implies continually changing.

Ann Okerson/Association of Research Libraries
ann@cni.org
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I have copies in ascii format of a paper by Sue Dodd and a paper by
Stan Kulikowski in which they make various proposals about e-mail
citation.  I can post them or otherwise make them available if people
are interested.

On the other hand, the National Library of Medicine and ISO efforts
sound like they would have more momentum behind them.  Are they
available in a form that can be shared over the network?  My recolletion
is that ISO follows the bizarro policy (IMHO) of using standards
as a revenue stream, hence not making them easily available to many
who would like to have them (unlike Internet RFCs, for example).

  Jim Cerny, Computing and Information Services, Univ.N.H.
	jim_cerny@unh.edu
From: wrie@seq1.loc.gov ((Wendy Hope Riedel))
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Subject: Definition of electronic journal
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Cross-posted on VPIEJ-L and SERIALST -- please forgive the duplication:
===============================================================================
A committee which is developing a manual of acquisition procedures has asked me
to provide a glossary entry for "electronic journal." Do any of you have a
definition you have found useful in describing these beasties?

Apart from the issue of "journal/newsletter" vs "list/digest" vs "Hypercard
stack/etc" cited in Strangelove's introduction to EJOURNL1, is there consensus
on whether "electronic" is limited to publications initially distributed by
network transmission or includes distribution on CD-ROM or other
optical/magnetic media which are distributed by mail/FedEx/UPS?  Would you
consider newsletters and other publications distributed by fax to be electronic
journals"?
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From:         "(Erik Jul)" <ekj@oclc.org>
Subject:      Re: Listserv and FTP file Size
              STRANGELOVE" at Oct 13, 92 8:22 am

Michael:

You ask:
>
> What is the maximum size of an ascii file that can safely be sent
> via listserv?  This is related to a larger question I have been
> meaning to ask for sometime now, what are the maximum sizes of
> files for transmission over the Net via both FTP and Listserv.

I do not know if any technical or practical limitations exist, but I do
know that I have FTP'd some of the largest files on the Internet, in excess
of 3 Gbytes.  The only limitation I would have encountered would be
local storage.

On another topic: your book on E-Publishing.  I am working with appropriate
OCLC managers to prepare a description of "Current Clinical Trials" and
OCLC's current and expected electronic publishing capabilities.

Two questions: Do you have a preferred length?  What is your deadline for
submittal of a draft?

Thank you.  --Erik
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From:         aldus@aal.itd.umich.edu
Subject: Re: Citing E-mail

There is an attempt to establish a standard for the citation of all manner
of electronic media by the National Library of Medicine. The publication
is entitled :

National Library of Medicine
Recommended Formats for Bibliographic Citation
1991

To date it is the most complete attempt to develop any *style guide*
that addresses the problems unique to the various media.

Dennis Moser
Internet:	aldus@aal.itd.umich.edu
Go Jays!All the Way!
*Don't be silly!Of course I don't represent the
University of Michigan!*
From: cs10@cornell.edu (Chris Stuart)
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Has a standard been established for citing e-mail in a scholarly work?
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Chris Stuart <cs10@cornell.edu>
Cornell Information Technologies
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From: JQRQC@CUNYVM.BITNET (Joseph Raben)
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Subject: Definition of e-journal
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:58:47 GMT
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I would like to second David Robinson's criterion for defining an e-journal.
In my mind, the way a text is prepared or transmitted is less significant
than the uses to which the recipient/s can put it. In electronic form, that
text can be edited in many ways, searched, forwarded to many other recipients,
combined with other texts, and conveniently be stored for later access. These
characteristics distinguish electronic communication from every other form of
communication we have so far invented, and constitute the paradigm shift that
we are experiencing.


Joseph Raben
City University of New York
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