Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:11:00 EST
From: Andy <2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Skoll and "netiquitte"

In article <dfs.724618376@sybok>, dfs@doe.carleton.ca (David F. Skoll) says:
>
>In <92352.1305112893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Andy
><2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>
>> Not only is Skoll, the self chosen netiquitte enforcer, repeatedly
>> paraphrasing other peoples e-mail without permission, he also insists
>> on e-mailing me despit e the fact that 1)several weeks ago I asked him
>> to stop and 2) I have bounced back every message he's sent me since.
>
>Well, what an interesting situation we have here!
>
>I use the "elm" mail system, and the "filter" program.  Here's what used
>to be in my filter file:
>
>> if (from = "2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA") then exec "bounceback bb"
>
>Now, the "bounceback" program is a simple program which e-mails
>people telling them I'm not interested in mail from them.  (For those
>who worry about net mail wars, don't - I've written bounceback so it
>never bounces more than 5 pieces of mail per day back to a given address.)
>
>So any mail "Andy" has been getting from me, apart from my 1 initial
>posting in a (futile) attempt to keep this discussion OFF scj, is his
>own fault.

This is incorrect. I had not received mail from skoll for some time and
found a fresh piece today, unless his autobounce feature takes several days
to work, it was fresh. I then manually bounced it only to have it bounced back.
at which point I discarded it.

A few hours later I found a second, fresh piece of e-mail in my reader,
I reflected it, it was bounced back to me and I discarded it. Now after
contacting Skoll's postmaster I have a third piece of new mail from him.

If Skoll suggests that he has not sent me new mail since the one he refers to
above, he is lying. If he suggests he did not send me three fresh pieces of
mail today, he is also lying.



>> Mr Skoll, please stop sending me e-mail. I don't read it and I don't
>> want it!
>
>Well, "Andy", if you post a public denunciation of me on scj, calling
>me names in front of the entire scj community, I will send you e-mail

I criticised you for posting paraphrases of other people's e-mail, I see
no problem with this. I suggest you should try following netiquitte instead
of sending me unwanted e-mail.

>to keep the discussion OFF scj.  And should you persist in your
>tactics of public denunciation followed by rejection of e-mail, I'll
>just have to re-enable my bounceback program.

Why not just not send e-mail to those who don't want it and wont read it,
now there's an idea!

>
>P.S. If anyone's interested in the source to bounceback, let me know.
>Right now, it's a quick hack, but if there's a lot of interest, I'll
>clean it up and make it publically available.


>
>--
>                     |         | "Step up and shake the hand
>David F. Skoll       | ||||||| |  Of someone you can't stand,
>|_ _ _  __   __ _ __ |  \\V//  |  You can tolerate him if you try..."
> / |  | |_|   | |  | |  __|__  |  -- Tom Lehrer, "National Brotherhood Week"
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