HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Subject: Re: RSS ( Education: BJP Adopts The Nazi Model)
Reply-To: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:23:23 GMT

In article <92245.110357DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu> Deepak Srivastava <DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>. It is also of the opinion that instead of
>glorifying invaders (both Muslims and Christians) as was being
>done so far, the text books should eulogise the deeds of heroes
>belonging to their own culture and civilisation.

Hmmm.  One needs to separate aryans from the mughals and ghazni and
the british -- else the `desire' for OUR culture doesnt make sense.  So
I guess this rekindled the `aryans' are the asali putraas of bharata-mata
concept.  (Or was this `aryans are not europeans' slogan, a slowly cooking
topic, that just happened to get publicity?)


Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)



>the Aryan or culture-creating races and the all lower breeds of mankind".

	!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:29465 soc.culture.tamil:1645
From: ratan@thebe.rutgers.edu (Santosh Ratan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: SAMSKRITHAM or SANSKRIT
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:36:37 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu,soc.culture.tamil
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Aug26.150402.6607@menudo.uh.edu>, mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh) writes:
> In article <Aug.26.01.24.31.1992.26402@thebe.rutgers.edu>, ratan@thebe.rutgers.edu (Santosh Ratan) writes:
> >In article <1992Aug25.222402.9618@ncsu.edu>, sponna@eos.ncsu.edu (SRIKANTH  PONNAPALLI) writes:

> Yes that's how it should be.
> Glory to Nippon,Myanamar and Beijing
> Arindam

Then in hindi, one should not use SUKARAAT or ARASTU for Socratese or
Aristotle ( I am not sure about the spellings). There are thousands of
other such words. 
Isa Maseeh in stead of Jesus Christ
Sanyukta Rajya America   in stead of   United States of America
I am sure there must be endless number of such examples in your
mothertongue (if it is not hindi) as well

I think it is absurd to favor the use of one's own language word while
talking formally in some other language, if there is already a word in
the language you are talking in. Otherwise it is hypocritical.

As far as I am concerned the topic is closed.

Thank you.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jain@grok106.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (jain)
Subject: Info Required for Chem. Engg.
Originator: jain@grok106.ColumbiaSC.NCR.com
Organization: NCR Corp
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 19:38:03 GMT

Hi everybody,
One of my relatives has done chemical engg. (BE) and has about 7 years of 
industrial experience in India. What are the prospects of getting a job 
for him in US ? What are the ways in which he can come to states ?
If I have to look for jobs for him where should I look ? etc etc ....
I shall appreciate any help in this regard.
Thanks in advance.
Arun

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ngopalas@ha13.eng.ua.edu (Nath S. Gopalaswamy)
Subject: Re: Indian Financial Advisor in NY Indicted
Organization: The University of Alabama
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 03:54:23 GMT

>In groups: soc.culture.indian
>Path: ua1ix!darwin.sura.net!haven.umd.edu!uunet!decwrl!deccrl!news.crl.dec.com!pa.dec.com!xyz.com!xyz
>From: xyz@xyz.com
>Message-ID: <9209020137.AA10391@hertz.njit.edu>
>Subject: This is from xyz
>Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 21:37:08 -0400
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>From: observer@indian.com
>Message-ID: <9209020229.AA12463@hertz.njit.edu>
>Subject: Indian Financial Advisor in NY Indicted
>Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 22:29:31 -0400
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>rticle <9209020229.AA12463@hertz.njit.edu>, observer@indian.com writes:
|> Mr. Deepak Gulati, an Indian (from N. Delhi) investment advisor
|> based in NY city is indicted - he pleaded guilty and will
|> serve some term in  jail (Ref: NY Times, local Vison of Asia TV).
|> 
|> He used to host a program "You and Your Money" in that ethnic
|> TV show - got millions of dollars from mainly Indian people
|> for investment and kept it for himself.

Well Mr Telnet to NJIT port 25 |gateway to dec.com what is the big deal 
in faking posts, xyz and indian.com indeed?!! If you went to all this 
trouble to post a harmless news item like the one above, you must be one
hell of a cautious guy ( or woman to be politically correct :-) ).
Or is all this a prelude to some really naughty posts soon to be forthcoming
from your hidden den? :-) People, People, grow up and stop being so childish.

Nath. :-)
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Confidant to root.
From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Unix-humor
Date: 27 Aug 92 07:00:55 GMT
Organization: University Of Wollongong



As I loged into my account an information appeared before %.

******************************************************************************

In soc.culture.india do not read any aritclein which
arindam is taking part.

Otherwise you will be barred from using computer network for two weeks.

Read:

% arindam




Bye
Adil
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Subject: Re: Should Indian states need more autonomy?
Reply-To: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:56:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.182424.28759@csc.ti.com> krishnan@ra.csc.ti.com (Srinivasan Krishnan) writes:
>
>If Kashmir gets more autonomy, then will NOT the Nationalists (?)
>in other states ask for more autonomy?  What about Punjab, 

Rather than use upamA alankArams, I say that giving autonomy to
kashmir, will increase thedemand for more state autonomy.
Except for the Hindi (or cow belt), everyone hates delhi, and
north indian dominance over the polity of the whole country. Leaving
that aside, I see autonomies to the following states (IN THAT ORDER)
though these might take time...

*. GorkhaLand
*. Assam and or Bodo land
*  Jharkand State (It should be forming soon).
*. Punjab (The sikhs might never get it because of
	the immense power and influence that punjabi hindus have
	in the corridors of delhi.  They cannot stand a sikh punjab).
*. Nagaland.
*. TamilNadu.
*. (immedietly followed by other south indian states).
(A clarification : autonomy gained may not be complete, it might just
be greater freedom from central control)...

>PVN sending a message to other potential militants that one could
>use violence to seceede (sp?) from India?

No question about this.  But I expect to see militancy only
in northeastern states, where the people grouses are (not just
genuine) but also very reasonable...

But south india, will take the path of complete non-cooperation.
quelling protests using CRPF in south india, is a dream of only
lunatics...  But lets see whether people of SI decide
that an active participation for autonomous federation
is necessary, or that time will bring happiness...

>If states get more autonomy, then would the ethnic clashes and 
>problems between states intensify?  I think PVN is opening a
>Pandora's box.  I am sure parties like BJP would certainly intensify

Pandora's box had something unpleasant to who-ever didnt like
it.   But here the word pandora is inappropriate.  The demand for
autonomy from a central dictator is not blasphemy for many states.
It is blasphemy only for the `socialists' and `secularists' and
self-proclaimed `indians'.

Maybe a couple of more decades, will slowly make autonomy
a `fashionable' and `the-right-thing-to-do' for these secularists
and `indians', now that the western countries HAVE JUST realized that
its not bad.  ((clearly, it will take time for the westerners to `teach'
the `indians' and for these `indiand' to declare it is the right thing to do))

>their campaign against PVN and would fight for a "Unified Hindhu 
>homeland". A very interesting as well as a turbulent period ahead?
>Any comments?
>Krishnan


Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
From: apuri@us.oracle.com (Arvind Puri (Dr. Bombay))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Help for NTS (NCERT) Scholarship .....
Keywords: NTS Scholarship
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:30:29 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Oracle Corporation
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Aug22.215240.16139@udel.edu> godura@daffy.cis.udel.edu (Ruchir Godura) writes:
>In article <1992Aug21.152003.23477@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> acube@eecg.toronto.edu (Aditya Aggarwal) writes:
>>Hi,
>>I was receiving (NTS) NCERT Scholarship in India. I have completed 
>>one year of study for Masters in Canada . Which forms are required
>>to be filled for getting money from them? I have not received any
>>forms from them at my Home, back in India. Before coming to Canada
>>I had inform them about my admission in Masters at UofT ?
>>I have blank form which I used to fill in my Bachelors. It appears 
>>weird because it requires Dean to sign for advance receipt of getting 
>>the scholarship which they(UofT) will get on behalf of the student. Also, 
>>it requires that the money should be disbursed by the institution....etc...
>>But all this don't apply as they are not going to give in dollars to 
>>the institution.
>>Thanxs in anticipation
>>Aditya
>I don't think u r eligible to continue receiving your NCERT scholarship
>if u study outside India.
>Anyway, don't make me laugh. If I remember right, it's about Rs 100 pm.
>That's about $ 3 pm. You feel it's worth the time and money ?
>Good Luck !!
>Ruchir.


	Ruchir is right ... you aren't eligible to receive an NCERT scholarship
while attending school outside the Republic of India.  And you shouldnt want it
either .... That is taxpayer money earmarked for the encouragement of talented
students who have trouble financing their education within India .... 
in the hope that they would in turn make a contribution to the betterment of 
Indian society ... 
Futhermore, there is a stipulation that only students who belong to a certain 
economic group or whose incomes are below a certain level are eligible .....
IF you live and work in the US, then you automatically dont qualify ....

Do the noble thing .... ask them to turn over the funds to some other 
qualified student .... 

Arvind Puri

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From: THS1@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Should Indian states need more autonomy?
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:58:11 GMT
 <1992Aug30.202729.519@udel.edu> <3379@creatures.cs.vt.edu>
 <1992Sep2.155100.5571@oracorp.com>
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Sep2.155100.5571@oracorp.com>, narayana@oracorp.com
(K. T. Narayana) says:

[..previous refs deleted...]

>This is interesting! There is lot of political talk on autonomy,
>but no body mentions how much autonomy there is already in
>the fedaral framework.

[... Some examples of supposed state autonomy, deleted...]

>What kind of autonomy that people are talking about that is not delivered
>in the fedaral constitutional framework!

May be some of the following?
1. Governor of a state should be elected by people of the state, not
    appointed by centre.
2. Centre should not have the power to dismiss a lawfully elected
    state government.
3. No restriction on power of taxation of a state.
4. Abolish central paramilitary forces.
5. Abolish segregated army and/or abolish the practice of posting army
   units outside their home states (the current practice ensures that
   the army units deployed to maintain "law-and-order" will feel no
   emotional attachment to the people they are trying to control, and
   will use any amount of force without any qualms).
6. Convert concurrent list to state list, reduce items in union list.

>When people talk of autonomy, they actually mean political autonomy
>alias the breaking of the constitutional link between the center and
>the states. When stated without proper substance to the argument,
>autonomy demands are a subtle attempts at breaking the union.

It's interesting that you want to preserve the union, when you don't
have high regards for all the people within the union. I think I
remember you making some disparaging remarks about people of Hindi
speaking provinces. So, what is YOUR (or your class's) interest in
preserving the union?

[... other examples of state power, deleted...]
What you say is not the whole story. The union government has the
power to get rid of a state government at will (and that is quite
constitutional). Since a popularly elected state government does
not have a guarantee that it can serve its full term, all other
power it may have becomes meaningless.

>I have yet to come across one single state that managed its economy
>better than the center's management of the national economy! Don't

It is almost impossible for a state to do well when the union govt
policies go against it. The industrial decline of West Bengal is an
example.

[... deleted ...]

> I think
>if you ask a common man on the street "who will you trust?"
>the common man will reply that it is the center.

Ah, the mythical common man! Isn't it nice that you know the result
of the experiment, even before performing it, so that you can dispense
with the necessity of experimentation itself?

T.H.Sanyal.
From: mukherje@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Amit Mukherjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: LOOKING FOR
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:48:58 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


Hi,

I am looking for my cousin Ms. Urmi Bhattacharjee who was supposed to
join University of Central Florida this Fall in the literature/English
department. Any information on her whereabouts may be sent at the 
following email address: mukherje@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu

Thanx
Amit Mukherjee
From: rc05@gte.com (Ramesh Chandak)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: RE > CORRUPT : Is the Narsimha Rao regime losing its sheen ?
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:37:35 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories Incorporated, Waltham MA


RE > article from Sunday Magazine ...

... reminds me of the saying " HUM NAHIN SUDHRENGE " ... just when there
was a ray of hope that this minority govt. would provide the foundation
for the much needed change ... I guess for India, there is absolutely no ...


- Ramesh
From: sagar@davinci.concordia.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Please read it..... This is not a joke!
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:07:29 GMT
Organization: Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec
Originator: sagar@davinci


Q. If someone with a PhD goes for a post-doctoral position, then
   what does someone with a Master's does?

A. Takes up a job as a "postmaster."


Sagar
8-)

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: chaw@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (S. S. Chawathe)
Subject: Re: Is Islam equal to Intolearnce and Fascism ?
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:59:00 GMT

waseems@sco.COM (Waseem Siddiqi) writes:
>Even in UK, you can't insult the Queen (not even in Hyde Park)

But I don't think they would kill you if you did.

_________________________________________________________________
Chaw@cs.Stanford.edu                                 tat tvam asi
From: avij@usc.edu (Anu Vij)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: LOOKING FOR ANURAAG, (TEXAS, AUSTIN)
Date: 2 Sep 1992 12:29:33 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sal-sun68.usc.edu

I am looking for anurag who has just come from chandigarh to persue his M.B.A 
at TEXAS,AUSTIN.
If anurag is reading this message,let me know where are u? i tried to contact u
on telephone number supplied to me.
If any one at Austin knows the whereabouts of anurag,please send me email at 
avij@aludra.usc.edu
Thanks in advance.
      
                                                     anu deep vij
From: cbsiwest@netcom.com (CBSI)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: test
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:11:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

This is just a test from M.Murali
Pl. ignore
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bond@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Girish Bonde)
Subject: Test
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 14:58:53 GMT

Please ignore!


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus)
Subject: Re: Sati is for our good!!
Organization: The Net-Anarchists of SCI, Inc.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 03:48:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.031913.22482@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> vedati@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu (Keshavprasad Vedati  ECE-GRAD) writes:
>In article <943@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala) writes:
>>sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki) writes:
>>: 
>>: What is your number? 1-800-CLUELESS?
>>
>>Remember, tel nos shoud have 7-digit numers/letters
>>after area code. Just for your info, since you are
>>very new to US.
>>
>>---Nimmi
>>: doki
>
> 1-800-CITIBANK worked for me 
>     bye
>      Keshavprasad Vedati

1] Try giving a dollar to a guy who asks you for a quarter,
   the next time he accosts you, on the street.
   You may be surprised by what ensues.

2] Stay Cool.

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From: rpandrav@redskins.ent.ohiou.edu (pandrav)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: REASONS WHY I POSTED TO S.C.T AND A.C.K [REF. PANTNAGAR]
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:48:42 GMT
Organization: College Of Engg. & Tech., Ohio University. Athens

In article <1992Sep3.204432.5586@informix.com> vivek@informix.com (Vivek Dwivedi) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.054109.1786@colorado.edu> manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep3.032127.3044@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> vkrishna@nyx.cs.du.edu (Vijay Krishna) writes:
>>>
>>>1. I was working on my research paper and I found a reference
>>>   of some professor who is associated with the area
>>>   in which I am working and who is/was (?) in Pantangar. 
>>
>>We are not really interested in knowing your reasons.., we really don't care.
>>
>>>2.  Being unaware with the geographical location of Pantnagar,
>>>    I confused it with Palghat (I guess it is somewhere in
>>>    Kerala).
>>
>>You mean to say that WE should suffer for YOUR ignorance?
>   Vijay  Krishna posted one article in a.c.k and s.c.t, and you guys
>    posted 10 articles to flame him. What do you guys think that s.c.i 
>    is to post junk  . 
>>
>>>3.  I have to work on a time bound assignment and I found it 
>>>    convenient to post the query to s.c.i, a.c.k and s.c.t.
>>>    Unfortunately, none of the responders have answered my
>>>    query, but instead, they kept on fighting on petty ego 
>>>    quibbles.
>>
>>Buddy, we are really not interested in your problems.. we have
>>our own (believe it or not!). You broke the rules, so you apologise.
>>No amount of reasoning is going to make what you did right.
>>
>
>  If you've your own problems, then it is your problem. What the heck you
>  are doing here in this newsgroup .
>
>>>BTW, I am leaving for Europe and I would advise to stop
>>>all this nonsense chain of replies and counter replies. 
>>
>>man, what arrogance!!! You expect us to act as YOU wish?
>>
>>>I have received the following information regarding Pantnagar
>>>from some of my friends: 
>>
>>Like we care!!
>>
>  What do you mean by we ?
>  You can say only for you, until and unless you're not politician and that 
>  too Indian .
>
>>>V. Krishna  
>>
>>Njan
>
>
>Go and do all this in a.c.k and s.c.t .
>
>I'm sick of M.... 
>
>Vivek (Pantanagarian) Dwivedi
>
>Sorry couldn't resist .
>
>-- 
>*****************************************************************************
> Vivek K. Dwivedi 415-926-6720 (O) 415-961-5414 (H) vivek@informix.com
>* Woman is like a road, the more curves she has, the more dangerous she is. *
>*****************************************************************************

I completely agree with vivek and let's hope that Njan retains his
sanity with a shower.Njan, why don't you take a shower before you
post some junk on the net?:)

pandrav
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sarang@saturn.sdsu.edu (Srinath Sarang)
Subject: Re: INDIANS AND SEX
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:11:15 GMT

Seetamraju Udaybhaskar (uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Aug26.004717.2957@ole.cdac.com> Yatin Chatterji writes:
: >>: Indians and SEX.
: >>: "They have sex in their brains, not where it should be" (pooja bedis words)
: >
: >  Who is Pooja Bedi?
: 
: This particular PB is different from the various other
: PBs that one comes across....  This PB is yucky..

   Yucky ??? 
: 
: Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
: (email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)

Srinath
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ravindra@leland.Stanford.EDU ( Ravindran)
Subject: Looking for accommodation in the Dallas/Fort Worth area
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 01:53:05 GMT


I am looking to share an apartment or house in the Dallas/ Fort Worth
area begining in early september.

If you are able to help please contact me at this email address
(ravindra@pangea.stanford.edu).

Thank you,

Niranjan Ravindran
(ravindra@pangea.stanford.edu)