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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:51:16 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
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        Never mind all that stuff.  I want to know about the modem.  One of
        the Digicoms, perhaps?  I'm shopping for my own Christmas presents.

At that price?  I doubt it.  What I don't understand is why abh paid
so much for what must be an external modem - when she clearly doesn't
need to be ripped off at Mac prices because all external modems are
the same  Hmmm... maybe it's $200 for the modem and $140 for the Mac cable? :-)

G
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From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Dog Question
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>  I want to add my voice to the discussion:  If you can, always avoid
>general anestheia for dogs or cats.  It can be dangerous.
>
>Evelyn

Can be dangerous for people, too. Best to avoid if possible.

judith
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From:         Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik <amadeus@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
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Also, these birthdays:

        Margaret Mead (1901)
        Liv Ullmann (1939)

And did anybody mention Jane Austen?

Lots of famous people on the 16th.  I've always found it interesting to
see when famous people's birthdays are.  My mom's birthday is the same as
Mozart's, Lewis Carroll's and Mikhail Baryshnikov. Me, I get Alexander
Haig and Monica Seles, Maria Callas (well, okay, she's pretty good) and
Rudolf Friml.  Yippee.

Oh well -- time for lovely Ludwig van.


-----Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik-------------------------------*<:-)-------------
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From:         ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU
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Posted on 11 Dec 1992 at 23:43:00 by Tony Harminc
>Indeed he did.  But Karen (I think) said that foreigners were required
>to carry their ID, which is de facto the same thing.

Hmmm...I thought that Americans are always told to carry their passports
with them in a foreign country, but I just checked my passport and it
doesn't say that.  Aren't resident aliens everywhere (including Canada
and the US) required to carry id?  (btw, it was me who said that about
Japan.)

I've been on Greyhounds where everyone on the bus was required to show
id by INS people. This was in Oklahoma, I think.

>Here, since there is no national ID card, they will typically ask for
>a driver's licence.  It takes a pretty strong will to simply refuse to
>produce anything.

It wouldn't take me much, I don't carry anything.  As a nondriver, I
don't have a license.  Most places here don't require any id for checks.
In New Haven I carried my passport for id for checks.

Karen
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From:         Agnes Kruchio <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Re: Christiane Amanpour
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              17, 92 3:05 am

>
> : It's apparently been a rather rough day, even the generators
> : had been been drowned out in an unusual downpour. She is a real trooper.
>                                                                  ^^^^^^^
>
> Isn't it spelled 'trouper' in the theatrical sense? :-)
>
> G
>
Well, I *think* she was wearing military-looking gear (if not the real
McCoy - dunno) - and was carrying on like a "good soldier" ( a real
professional) under difficult circumstances (not <quite> like being
shot at in Sarajevo, granted, but diff. enough).  Do you think that justifies
the play on words?
A
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From:         Tony Harminc <TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      Spoonerisms

The Globe and Mail runs a weekly 'Challenge' column - readers are invited
to send in contributions on some set topic.  A while back they ran the
following: Turn the title of a book, play, or movie into a spoonerism
and briefly explain the plot.

The winners (actually these may be all the entries, and a couple are not
spoonerisms):

A Vroom With a Ewe
  How to transport sheep by racing car.

The Knee of the Idle
  A study of immobility.

The Tinter's Whale
  The true story of Moby Dick

The Scarlet Teller
  A blushing banker learns to deal with society's scorn.

Red Dingers
  Quasimodo's adventures in the former Soviet Union.

Radars of the Lost Irk
  Ever forget what annoyed you?  This video will help you access
  those elusive feelings.

Buy Bligh Booze
  An abortive attempt to take over the Bounty by getting the captain
  drunk.

Fenry the Hourth
  Story of a talking equine with a small speech impediment.

Bother of the Fried
  A chain of greasy-spoon restaurants is attacked by a group of
  vigilante nutritionists.

For Whom the Tell Bowls
  William gives up archery for lawn bowling.

The Born Thirds
  Psychology of the third child.

The Douse of the Head
  An account of baptismal practices in 19th century Russia.

A Wish Called Fonda
  Jane continues to pray for the Atlanta Braves.

Sunshine Letches of a Skittle Town
  Happy but dirty old men make their town famous for bowling.

Lady Loverley's Chatter
  The babbling reminiscences of a noblewoman.

The Shaming of the True
  The conspiracy against Joe Clark and his luggage.

She Conks to Stupor
  Self-defence techniques for the urban woman.

The Go-Men of the Yard
  A movie about cops on assignment.

The Tiller's Mail
  The harrowing love-letters of a plowman.

Rushing it in the Buff
  Sex in a cold climate.

The Brawn Poker
  Story of a sadistic masseur.

The Gaudy Bard
  Shakespeare in Technicolor.

Loan a Home
  Inept realtor bungles sales.

Boot-to-knee on the Mountie
  Stricken officer limps Yukon, gets man.

Ringing in the Seine
  French technologists develop underwater cellular phone.

Strain Meat
  Sinclair Lewis's pamphlet on his new diet.

The Will's in the Window
  The book for storefront lawyers.

The Gel Bar
  A lonely ex-beauty-queen searches for the man with perfect hair
  and finds love at a local watering-hole.

A Dot in the Shark
  Misadventures of Dorothy Lamour on the road to Singapore.


Tony H.
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: PSILink?
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        versus Class B charges (2.50/hr offhours, 6.00 8AM-8PM)?  What am I
        stepping into?

Debt.  Have you seen the PDIAL file of public access dialups?  There
may be some cheaper option; seem to be a lot of SLIP/PPP providers
around now.  There any *many* more uucp feeds, if you can live
without telnet or ftp.  (I suspect you couldn't though; I certainly
couldn't any more.  I've been totally spoiled by a ten-pounds-a-month
Internet feed and just local phone charges)

Graham
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In a previous article, kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey) says:

>Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU> writes:
>
>> (hi, you cute thing!)
>
>Honey, you have no idea.
>
I'll bet she wouldn't mind finding out....:-)  Got a good picture to scan?
The list definitions of "cute" and "hunk" are often very different from the
standard ones.  Right, Tushar?<wink, poke>

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In a previous article, LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU () says:

>
>Seems Jimmy could be Joh's little brother... he's often been called that too.
>IMO though, after seeing an interview with Jimmy Carter on TV only a few days
>ago, I am convinced that he's the best, still-living, ex-President you have.

I agree - he's the best EX-president we have.  He's a great guy with his
heart in the right place.  He just wasn't nasty enough to really cut it as
President.  Sometimes I think that job takes a real SOB to handle it right...
Woodrow Wilson had the same problem, I think.  

>Joh and Flo, his wife, who was elected to Parliament on the basis of her
>pumpkin scone recipe, seem to have been keeping a very low profile lately now
>that they have retired from politics.
>
Those sound good, and as valid a reason to elect someone as any I've heard
yet!  At least on this side of the Pacific.  Here we elect on the basis
of campaign promises everyone knows will be broken.  At least Joh and Flo 
would deliver on the scones.:-)

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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: value of a BWP
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:Oh, fickleness, thy name is tushar! O perfidy! Ingratitude! I weep, I faint,
:I gnash my teeth!  What more must I do?

Swan?

Never?

G
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:51:04 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: help me, please!
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On Fri, 11 Dec 1992 01:03:37 -0500, "Rebecca S Altes" <rsast11+@PITT.EDU> wrote:
>     writing a paper at the eleventh hour (actually 01 hours, but who's
>     counting?)  and desperately need a word for someone going "past the
>     point of no return".  please, inspiration needed, my mind is blocked.

Well, if you care to experiment with eschewing cliche's, try "committed".

G
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Anyone heard about khat in Somalia?
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:Only if you don't regard lethal results to anyone in the vicinity as
:"more long term damage".  That drug makes gun-toters more likely to shoot
:anything that moves.:-(  It's not a matter of civil rights or moral codes;
:it's a matter of trying to keep their own butts from being shot off, and
:incidentally a lot of other peoples' too.  If I remember correctly, that

Ah! So *this* is the person who US propoganda is written for.  I wondered
who was dumb enough to believe it.

G
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Greetings,

Hey, Don, if you want to escalate this by relating details of the
Gainesville murders, go for it.  I left out some really cool details,
too.  I there an alt.true-crime.gore discussion group?

Marty
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*** Resending note of 12/18/92 08:33

>the drive to perfection is only driving her crazy and that she could
>have bought the item for a fairly reasonable price - often for less
>$$ than the proposed project...) I guess it's time to have a garage

Agnes, just two comments.  1( . the items Joyce creates are not duplicates
or copies of things she could purchase, but personalized creations from
her mind... and 2nd) the items are, especially where grand-baby is
concerned, labors of love.
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Grammatical question...
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:>> I was going to keep my mouth shut on this one, but I keep getting the
:>> feeling that that quote's from Romeo and Juliet.  There's no copy here
:>
:>Ah, the <innocence> of youth...
:>
:Yes, it can be, can't it.  Of course, the two <inocents> in question
:weren't so <innocent> by the end of the play.  Lying, lusting, sex, murder
:and mayhem will all tend to do that to a person....:-)  Or were you
:referring to me?<heh>  <heh heh> <heh heh heh>

Did you ever work out what <the love that dare not speak its name> was
referring to, by the way?

G
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:32:58 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
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On Sat, 19 Dec 1992, Ruth M. Hanschka wrote:

> All the SCAers out there should be interested in that! <*heh heh heh*>
> For those who don't know, ask a Society For Creative Anacrhonism person...

The only SCA'er I know is heavily into bdsm and makes chain mail as a hobby...

-abh
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In a previous article, maynor@Ra.MsState.Edu (Natalie Maynor) says:

>>Silly you!  My method leaves nothing much to clean up.  Washing a food
>>processor takes longer than crushing the cookies did.:-)
>
>Washing a food processor takes no time at all.   They're much easier
>to wash than things like blenders or mixers.
>
True, but plastic bags can just be tossed in the garbage - no cleanup at all.
I do use a processor for a lot of stuff, but for some things like cabbage,
it's still easier to chop it by hand sometimes.  I'd rather spend ten minutes
whacking and two minutes washing than the other way around.:-)  Blenders
are a pain in the butt no matter how you slice it....  Stand mixers and hand
mixers are a bit of a pain to clean sometimes too, but nothing like a
poorly designed food processor...
Just leave it to the younger person to use the old-fashioned methods.:-)  I
still use a spoon to mix cakes sometimes too.  It's not *that* bad.

>Has anybody seen a posting from Carolyn yet?  She asked me in a note if
>what she had posted on usenet had shown up here yet.  Since I use nn,
>
It showed up here before your reply did.  The time signature on it said
some time before 9pm, I'm not sure exactly when, probably around 20:30.

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From:         Brad Baxter <BBAXTER@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Alt-Brad's Science/Nature Question
              20 Dec 1992 12:33:25 +1000 from <LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU>

>Yep.... Science and Nature it is!
>"What was the first animal named to the U.S.A.'s Animal Hall of Fame, in 1969?"
   Would that be the first chimp in space?
>
>You have moved 3 spaces and, if correct, can move a further 5 spaces giving
>you a choice of any of the remaining topics except Entertainment.
>

I will be surprised if my answer is correct (or was it a question?),
but if so, Geography is the next move.  And I take it back; I am not
quite awake.

* Alt-Brad *
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 16:10:56 +0100
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: The Geometry of Boxes and Jugs
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              19 Dec 92 15:12:26 +0000. <9212191442.AA02384@sics.se>

  Graham rashly claims:

  >You can't bullshit in maths with stuff like "but if everybody
  >uses it, it must be acceptable"...

  Sure you can! This is the form of the usual justification of the axioms
of mathematics.
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: My Top Ten 1992
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On Fri, 18 Dec 1992, gilbertsmith wrote:

> 4)   dinner with -abh in SA

#4? I never in all my life!

-abh
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              19 Dec 1992 20:49:04 +1000 from <LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU>

Huh?  What?  Okay, I awake now.  Is Science and Nature a legitimate move?

* Alt-Brad *
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>I must ask Ruth to explain. (Why oh why do I have this self-destructive
> urge?)

I have no idea.... don't you know?

>> She just wanted to annoy the living daylights out of you...
>
>In my new Carolyn-soliciting mode I am tempted to say that the living
>daylights have been annoyed out of me ...

Gee.... I'm being solicited by Tushar.... the mind boggles.

>the question is, could I get away with it?

Hmmmm...Depends what 'it' is!

>>       Besides, you were transmitting on a male wavelength, while
>>Carolyn transmits on the female.  Maybe she just didn't hear you?
>
>If YOU heard Carolyn, just tell me what "crazy like a fox" means -

Sorry..... what was the question again? Oh, that's right! "Having method in
ones madness" (like Ruth said in her later post).

>>[there, that should be confusing enough to annoy him even more -- he's
>>*soooooooooo* easy to tease, Carolyn]
>
>I am confused as never before and my confusion leads to increase in
>my annoyance by the minute. Now can you start explaining to a very
>confused and very very annoyed soul (transmitting on mae wavelength)?

Try pulling the other one, Tushar..... you may have better luck. :-)

Carolyn
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Anne, the game starts tonight...at 2100 hours...  8-)

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Subject:      Re: Assisting the police in their inquiries

>Although in the UK letters are the property of
>the recipient, in the US I believe they are the property of the sender
>(with full copyright reserved).

I believe the US rule is more complicated, though I am not certain of this.  I
believe that letters are the property of the recipient until the  recipient's
death, upon which they revert to the author.  So sending back love letters is
like saying "I'm dead, as far as you're concerned.  Or you are, as far as I am."

-K

-Mka
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From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
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Torkel
  So by respecting beliefs you mean not mocking them?  Is it ok
to disagree in any terms that do not amount to "mocking" if we
do not want to be bigots?  For example, if I say "your beliefs
are false and revolting, and I have no respect for them", is
this "mocking"? If no, in what sense does it amount to
"respecting" the beliefs in question? If yes, just what can we
say without  "mocking" beliefs?

If you want to paint yourself into that corner, that's your
business.  I've said my say.
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