From: Chuck.Lavazzi@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Chuck Lavazzi)
Subject: Re: Operation Rescue
Followup-To: talk.abortion
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:43:57 GMT

[Please note that followups have been directed to talk.abortion; Mr. Ault will
likely be getting more documentation than he wants to see.]

In article <AULTJ.92Sep1152939@caleb.rpi.edu> aultj@rpi.edu (Jim Ault) writes:
>In article <68.844.uupcb@pcb.batpad.lgb.ca.us> daniel.moran@pcb.batpad.lgb.ca.us (Daniel Moran)  writes:
>
>   JN>allowing an end-run around the First Amendment.  This approach could
>   JN>have been used in the '60s to jail sit-in protestors on felony charges.
>   JN>Or Operation Rescue protestors today.
>
>   JN>        It's hard, but as with the "hate speech" issue, you have to
>   JN>separate words from actions and punish only the illegal actions.
>   JN>Otherwise you end up with people you agree with being silenced.
>
>   You're correct; you must separate actions from words. But let's note
>   that what Operation Rescue does is not an exercise of free speech; they
>   surround and blockade clinics that are legally in operation, engaging in
>   trespass on the clinic's property, and
>
>All this is true, and also was true of the sit-in protestors of the '60s.
>
>   harrassment of the clinic's customers. 
>
>Harassment?  How many examples of this have you actually *seen* personally?
>I would say that the majority of these protests are peaceful, and not
>harassing at all.  However, many people on the pro-abortion side feel
>that even walking in front of someone with a sign is harassment.
>
>   Let's throw in the death threats that have been directed at
>   the owners of such clinics, and the staff that work therein, and we
>   clearly are not dealing with anything recognizable as "speech," of any
>   sort.
>
>What death threats?  When?  Where?  Many people on the pro-abortion side
>mention these, but I have not seen anyone produce any attempt at
>evidence of these things.  Just a newspaper clipping that *documents*
>one (not just allegations) would be nice.
	Well, there's this little gem that was being handed out in (I think)
Buffalo, courtesy of Eric Marsh over on talk.abortion:
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In case any loving pro-lifers need some prayers to say before
bedtime and can't think of your own; here is a prayer that the
Missionaries to the Preborn were handing out at their rallies:
 
                        PRAY AGAINST
 
ABORTIONISTS                           GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS
Paul Seamars                           Grant Langley - City Atty
George Woodward                        John O. Norquist - Mayor
Milton Tarver                          Philip Arreola - Pol. Chief
Neville Sender                         Jim Doyle - St. Atty. Gen.
Bernie Smith                           Capt. Basich - Police
George Miks                            Judge Wagner - State
 
O my God, make them like the whirling dust, like the chaff
before the wind!  As the fire burns the woods, and as the
flame sets the mountains on fire, so pursue them with Your
tempest, and frighten them with Your storm.  Fill their faces
with shame, that they may seek Your name, O LORD.  Let 
them be confounded and dismayed forever; yes let them be
put to shame, and perish, that men may know that You,
whose name alone is the Lord, are the most high over all the
earth.
For additional Psalms of Imprecation see Ps. 7, 9, 10, 11,12...
 
 
Eric
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>
>Were you in Buffalo in April?  Which side was chanting and shouting
>and blocking the doors? The pro-abortion side.  Which side was
>peacefully walking up and down on the other side of the street?
>
>Which side was closer to harassment?
>--
>Jim Ault, ITS Systems Programmer, aultj@rpi.edu    <><
	I hope you're sincerely interested in documentation on those death 
threats and acts of vandalism and property destruction.  They're gonna
bombard you with it.
Chuck
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