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From: kre@cs.mu.oz.au (Robert Elz)
Subject: Re: Help with UK email address
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:23:56 GMT

In <MATT.92Sep30075617@raven.bacchus.esa.OZ.AU>
matt@bacchus.esa.OZ.AU (Matthew Atterbury) writes:

As Boyd said, this isn't a typical UK (backwards) address, though
contrary to what he said, its probably in the UK, just not connected
to Janet.

What's more your error messages also indicate that ...

|         lawrence@uk.ate.slb.com
|             Deferred: Connection timed out during user open
|                       with ukfca1.UK.ATE.SLB.COM

|             (is this actually success of sorts?)

Yes, it is, it means that the host name is OK, or should be, but
that for some reason wichever host returned that error message
wasn't able to connect for whatever period they try (typically 3 - 7
days).

|         lawrence%com.slb.ate.uk
|         lawrence%ate.slb.com.uk
|         lawrence%slb.ate.com.uk

|             550 Host unknown (Authoritative answer from name server)

This simply means the name is invalid.

|             (I thought .uk meant the UK but apparently not?)

It does, but what you had was uk... not .uk.  When you see an address
that starts uk... reversing it to see if its a janet address can
be a good idea, but its by no means a universal rule, people can
name their hosts (or local domains) "uk" if they want to (this happens
to be a pretty silly idea given the way JANET works, but its legal).

You can actually usually tell whether reversing a uk... name will,
or might, help by looking at the next domain, uk.ac... is very
likely to be a JANET backwards address, uk.co... probably is as
well.  uk.mod... is another possibility, but there you reach about
the end (there aren't many legal sub-domains of .uk).   Certainly
ate.uk (which would be the only reasonable possibility) isn't one
of them.

You might try asking postmaster@slb.com - they may be able to tell
you what's up with their (probable) UK link.

kre
From: matt@bacchus.esa.OZ.AU (Matthew Atterbury)
Newsgroups: aus.comms
Subject: Help with UK email address
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:56:17 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Expert Solutions Australia.


    Hi, I would be grateful if someone could tell me the correct
    "spelling" of this net address:

        lawrence@uk.ate.slb.com

    I have tried the following permutations with poor result:

        lawrence@uk.ate.slb.com

            Deferred: Connection timed out during user open
                      with ukfca1.UK.ATE.SLB.COM

            (is this actually success of sorts?)

        lawrence%com.slb.ate.uk
        lawrence%ate.slb.com.uk
        lawrence%slb.ate.com.uk

            550 Host unknown (Authoritative answer from name server)

            (I thought .uk meant the UK but apparently not?)

    Many thanks for any help ...

-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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UUCP: ...!uunet!munnari!matt@bacchus.esa.oz.au            "klaatu barada nikto"
ARPA: ...!uunet!murtoa!bacchus.esa.oz.au!matt         "consider this a divorce"
Newsgroups: aus.comms
From: terryd@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Terry Dawson)
Subject: Re: A REAL CHALLENGE!!
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 04:33:22 GMT

Mark.Purcell@pos.pub.uu.oz.au (Mark Purcell) writes:

>>>required functionality by using a TCP\IP protocol over SLIP connections.
>>
>>How fully does the package you mention implement TCP/IP? When I get 
>>some networkability here (ie. locally, NOT kralizec!) I'll be connecting a
>>few machine to my local server using a SLIP-based setup.

>The ka9q inplementations I have seen provide the following functionality,
>ftp, finger, telnet and smtp.  So all it really lacks is news, which makes it
>pretty powerful for the public domain.  It will also run over
>appletalk, ethernet,
>AX25 and a number of other protocols, as well as SLIP, so it is useful for 
>networking dissimilar machines.

Versions less than a year or so old support nntp (server and client), pop
(2&3 server and client), rip, hop-check (traceroute), ppp, convers (like IRC)
ttylink (like talk), lpd, plus heaps of other stuff mostly relevant to
amateur radio operation.

It isn't Public Domain though, it is though freely available for for
use and modification by amateur radio operators and for educational
users, all other use should be negotiated with Phil Karn himself.


>>>ka9q is in the public domain so it shouldn't be to difficult to obtain.
>>
>>Is is supplied with source? I'll need this to be able to make it work
>>on my system.

>Yes it is.  If I was you I'd do an archie search for ka9q.

ucsd.edu is one of teh best places to obtain it .. be warned though, there
are many derivative versions .. check:

ucsd.edu:/hamradio/packet/tcpip/*

My recommendations are : ka9q, pa0gri, wg7j for DOS
there is a PM based OS/2 version, WAMPES for Unix sysV, and versions for
the Amiga and MAcintosh .. archie will probably be necessary to find them.

Terry


-- 
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+61 2 925 1556 (voice), +61 2 922 5973 (fax).   __\*/__  0^Ooooo _
Newsgroups: aus.comms
From: boyd@prl.dec.com (Boyd Roberts)
Subject: Re: Help with UK email address
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Paris Research Laboratory
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:22:47 GMT

In article <MATT.92Sep30075617@raven.bacchus.esa.OZ.AU>, matt@bacchus.esa.OZ.AU (Matthew Atterbury) writes:
> 
>     Hi, I would be grateful if someone could tell me the correct
>     "spelling" of this net address:
> 
>         lawrence@uk.ate.slb.com
> 

Are you _sure_ that this host is in the UK?  I get:

    uk.ate.slb.com  inet address = 192.23.1.2
    Authoritative answers can be found from:
    SJ.ATE.SLB.COM  inet address = 129.87.112.252
    SJ.ATE.SLB.COM  inet address = 192.12.143.237
    SNDSU1.SINet.SLB.COM    inet address = 129.87.81.1

And then I get:

    Server:  SJ.ATE.SLB.COM
    Address:  129.87.112.252

    uk.ate.slb.com  nameserver = uk-nameserver.ATE.SLB.COM
    uk.ate.slb.com  origin = uk.ate.slb.com
            mail addr = root.UK.ATE.SLB.COM
            serial=20001, refresh=21600, retry=1800, expire=3600000, min=3600
    uk.ate.slb.com  preference = 0, mail exchanger = ukfca1.UK.ATE.SLB.COM
    uk.ate.slb.com  inet address = 192.23.1.53
    uk-nameserver.ATE.SLB.COM       inet address = 129.87.112.252
    uk-nameserver.ATE.SLB.COM       inet address = 192.12.142.254

What I'd really like to see is some JANET bozo actually mail to these guys :-)


Boyd Roberts			boyd@prl.dec.com

``When the going gets wierd, the weird turn pro...''
From: t9014201@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.comms
Subject: Info wanted on Telecom Data Services
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:23:39 GMT
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)

I am searching for information on the Telecom data services.
I am a Computer Science student given the task of presenting a talk on this 
subject.  I have some info (mainly from old Communication magazines and Telecom
brochures), but I'd like a little from out in the "real world".

In particular, I would like to hear from people using AUSTPAC, MACROLINK
and MICROLINK, DDS and Datel.

I'd like to hear whatever technical info can be offered.
Where are X.25, X.28, X.32 used?
How do you link together your equipment and then into the data service?
Does Electronic Funds Transfer still use Austpac?

I'd especially like to hear about where these services are used, and why one 
service is chosen over another.

From what I have read, MACROLINK seems to be a replacement for AUSTPAC.  
Is this a fair statement?

Basicly I'll gladly accept any words on any aspect of any Telecom Data Service.

Sorry if this is in some way against Net-protocol, but it seems a good way to
put the NEWS to practical use. 

Thanks,
Greg McPherson
T9014201@phillip.edu.au
-- 

--
* Clouds...  Love...  Stars... Colours... *
                                     Greg McPherson * T9014201@phillip.edu.au
From: terryd@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Terry Dawson)
Newsgroups: aus.comms
Subject: Re: A REAL CHALLENGE!!
Date: 6 Oct 92 04:20:58 GMT
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia

terryd@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Terry Dawson) writes:

>ucsd.edu is one of teh best places to obtain it .. be warned though, there
>are many derivative versions .. check:

>ucsd.edu:/hamradio/packet/tcpip/*

The best place to check is:

grivel.une.edu.au:/pub/ham-radio/ucsd/hamradio/packet/tcpip/*

Terry


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+61 2 925 1556 (voice), +61 2 922 5973 (fax).   __\*/__  0^Ooooo _
From: jhonan@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Jamie Honan)
Newsgroups: aus.comms
Subject: Re: YMODEM on SUN under UNIX
Keywords: ymodem sun unix
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:53:30 GMT
Organization: Kralizec Dialup Unix Sydney: +61-2-837-1183 V.32

coney@socs.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Jeff Coney) writes:

>Can anyone tell me where to find a YMODEM program for the SUN running under
>Unix?

The rz/sz ZMODEM programs have command line options for YMODEM and XMODEM.
rz falls back to YMODEM automatically.

Try archie.au for the source. Compile and run.
Regards, Jamie Honan
From: Mark.Purcell@pos.pub.uu.oz.au (Mark Purcell)
Reply-To: msp%pos.pub.uu.oz.au@tmx.mhs.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.comms
Subject: Re: A REAL CHALLENGE!!
Date: 29 Sep 92 7:31:22 GMT
Organization: Me?  Organized?

skcgoh@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Shaw Goh @ The University of Westrn Australia) once wrote....
>Here is a real challenge to all the comms freaks out there...
>
>1)  I have one modem, one telephone line and two computers capable of
>multitasking.
>2)  I wish to connect both comps up using a null modem and a remote
>control software.  Probably using multitasking.
>3)  I want to use one computer to connect up the modem to a unix system
>Internet.
>4)  I then want to use the two computers to use the ond modem and hook
>up to two different accounts and be able to type simultaneously.  I
>realise that it is possible to do this on a networked PC.
>
>IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO THIS WITHOUT A NETWORK???
>
>Any contribution to this challenge is appreciated, but please email me
>direct if possible.
>
>Shaw...
>skcgoh@tartarus.uwa.edu.au

If you utilise a two SLIP connections, one over you modem and the other
between your two compters you should be able to achieve the desired effect.

The ka9q package works on Macintosh, IBM and Amigas and will provide the
required functionality by using a TCP\IP protocol over SLIP connections.

Using this setup each computer can log into as many accounts as they wish,
on as many machines they have access to.  If your modem connection is via SLIP
to an machine on the Internet then either of your two machines could be used
to log into any machine in the world on the Internet.

So I guess this would solve your problems.  However I wouldn't recommend
running a SLIP connection under 9600.

ka9q is in the public domain so it shouldn't be to difficult to obtain.

Hope this helps.

Mark

----
Mark Purcell, 62/25 Market Street, SYDNEY NSW 2000.  (02) 283 5598
	Mark.Purcell@pos.pub.uu.oz.au, msp@kralizec.zeta.org.au
From: Mark.Purcell@pos.pub.uu.oz.au (Mark Purcell)
Reply-To: msp%pos.pub.uu.oz.au@tmx.mhs.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.comms
Subject: Re: A REAL CHALLENGE!!
Date: 4 Oct 92 0:35:8 GMT
Organization: Me?  Organized?

craig@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Craig Dewick @ Kralizec Dialup Unix Sydney: +61-2-837-1183 V.32) once wrote....
>
>>The ka9q package works on Macintosh, IBM and Amigas and will provide the
>>required functionality by using a TCP\IP protocol over SLIP connections.
>
>How fully does the package you mention implement TCP/IP? When I get 
>some networkability here (ie. locally, NOT kralizec!) I'll be connecting a
>few machine to my local server using a SLIP-based setup.

The ka9q inplementations I have seen provide the following functionality,
ftp, finger, telnet and smtp.  So all it really lacks is news, which makes it
pretty powerful for the public domain.  It will also run over appletalk, ethernet,
AX25 and a number of other protocols, as well as SLIP, so it is useful for 
networking dissimilar machines.

>
>>ka9q is in the public domain so it shouldn't be to difficult to obtain.
>
>Is is supplied with source? I'll need this to be able to make it work
>on my system.

Yes it is.  If I was you I'd do an archie search for ka9q.

Mark

----
Mark Purcell, 62/25 Market Street, SYDNEY NSW 2000.  (02) 283 5598
	Mark.Purcell@pos.pub.uu.oz.au, msp@kralizec.zeta.org.au

Newsgroups: aus.jobs
From: sweetser@qut.edu.au (Terry Sweetser)
Subject: 1993 POSITION WANTED
Keywords: COMPUTER ENGINEERING ELECTRONICS UNIX JOBS WORK EMPLOYMENT
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 06:49:19 GMT


I am currently finishing a B.Eng. (Computer and Electrical
Engineering) at the Queensland University of Technology, and
I will be looking for a permanent position in the Brisbane
area next year.  If you are about to advertise a position or
have plans to employ a Computer Engineer, please contact me:
	Terry Sweetser, 1/44 Mark St, NEW FARM QLD 4005.

Thanking you,
Terry
sweetser@sesame.qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.jobs
From: skurray@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Ron Skurray)
Subject: Research Assistant
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:02:43 GMT


               The University of Sydney

                  Research Assistant

               Molecular Genetics Group

            School of Biological Sciences



The successful applicant will provide assistance for ARC,
NH&MRC and Sydney University Cancer Research Fund supported
projects investigating; bacterial conjugative gene transfer
mechanisms, antibiotic resistance and its evolution in
bacteria and export-protein mediated multidrug resistance.
Techniques in use include all aspects of recombinant DNA
technology, DNA sequencing, PCR, protein analysis.

Applicants should have BSc (Hons) or equivalent with
experience in molecular genetics but applicants with skills
in protein purification/analysis will also be considered.
Position available for one year with possibility of renewal
for up to 2 years subject to funding.


Enquiries to Prof. Skurray (612) 692 2376/FAX (612) 692 4771
or E-mail skurray@extro.ucc.su.oz.au.
Please note that E-mail applications are not acceptable to
the University.

Salary:     Grade I  $24,755-$27,508 p.a.
            Grade II $28,416-$31,027 p.a.

Please note that E-mail applications are not acceptable but
inquires can be made to the above E-mail address

Applications quoting reference no. B39/06 including curriculum
vitae and names, addresses, fax/phone nos. of two referees to
the Assistant Registrar (Appointments), Staff Office (K07),
The University of Sydney, NSW, 2006, (Fax (02) 692 4316) by 15
October 1992.
From: simon@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au (Simon Hackett)
Newsgroups: aus.jobs
Subject: Networking Consultant for pre/post sales support at Internode Systems P
Keywords: unix vms tcp/ip
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:20:22 GMT
Organization: The University of Adelaide
NNTP-Posting-Host: sirius.itd.adelaide.edu.au


Internode Systems Pty Ltd seeks someone to fill a newly created position.
The following is the text of the advertisement which has recently appeared
in the local (SA) papers on the topic, placed by our recruitment agency.

Please address any enquires to Bruce Jacobssen (contact details are listed
below).

... Simon Hackett (simon@internode.com.au)


                        ------

NETWORK CONSULTANT

* Pre/post sales

* TCP/IP

* VMS and UNIX


This small dynamic company is involved with the development, sale and support of
state-of-the-art networking software. Platforms they support include VAX/VMS,
UNIX and other systems which run TCP/IP. Through their strong links in the US,
they have become the national distributor for a variety of software products
whose markets are expanding rapidly. Due to this expansion, they now require the
services of a Network Consultant.

You will have sound networking skill gained using TCP/IP within VMS and UNIX
environments. An equal emphasis will be placed on good customer service skills
as most of your duties will focus on pre and post sales activities. Further,
proven skills in solving client problems and a knowledge of the "C" programming
language would be highly regarded.

This is a flexible role dealing primarily in sofwtare support for current
clients and researching/solving software needs with future prospects. In
addition, you will assist in supporting in-house VMS systems & Sun
Workstations/servers as well as PC's and Mac's. Further to this you will
establish and maintain a database set up to address the resolution of software
problems.

If you have energy and drive combined with the above skills then we should talk.

Initial telephone enquiries may be directed to Bruce Jacobssen on (80) 272 0133.
Written applications can be sent, quoting reference A 733, to:

        Bruce Jacobssen
        Clements Consulting Group
        118 Greenhill Rd
        Unley SA 5061
Newsgroups: aus.jobs
From: peter@cs.uwa.oz.au (Peter Dodd)
Newsgroups: aus.jobs
Subject: Research Fellow, Macintosh Computer Managed Training, UWA
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:36:56 GMT
Reply-To: groy@cs.uwa.edu.au
Followup-To: groy@cs.uwa.edu.au
Distribution: aus
Organization: University of Western Australia

The University of Western Australia

Department of Psychology
                 
Research Fellow
						   
Reference Number : A52/92

Applications are invited for a Research Fellow in the area of computer
managed training systems.  The appointment will be for two years in the
first instance, with the possible extension into a third year.  The
successful applicant will be involved with the planning, design and
implementation of research software within the soon to be established
Centre for Computer Managed Training and Decision Support Systems, a joint
initiative of the Departments of Psychology and Computer Science.  The
Centre will be undertaking research in areas of knowledge representation,
reasoning and learning, and the development of intelligent training and
decision support systems.  The appointee will be expected to take a
leadership role in the design and implementation of innovative software
tools to support a DITAC funded research project concerning the training
of power system controllers in conjunction with the State Energy Commission
of Western Australia.

Candidates must have (or have nearly completed) a PhD degree in Computer
Science or a closely related discipline.  Knowledge of, and experience
with, the application of software engineering techniques to complex
computer systems will be essential.  In particular, experience with Inside
Macintosh, the Technote Documentation Series, along with the MPW, Object
Pascal, C++, MacApp, AppleEvents and the interapplication communication
architecture would be highly desirable.  Experience with supervising
research programmers would also be a value.  Applications must include
full details of qualifications and experience and indicate how these
relate to the requirements of the position.

Further information may be obtained from Associate Professor G. Roy on
telephone +619 380 2839, fax +619 380 1089 or e-mail groy@cs.uwa.edu.au.

SALARY RANGE:	Level B A$41,000 - A$48,688 p.a.
                (Commencing salary will not exceed A$44,075 p.a.)

CLOSING DATE:	30 October 1992


Conditions of appointment will be specified in any offer of appointment
which may be made as a result of this advertisement.

Written applications quoting reference number, telephone number,
qualifications and experience, and the names, addresses and fax/telephone
numbers of three referees should reach:

  The Acting Director, 
  Personnel Services, 
  The University of Western Australia,
  Nedlands  WA  6009

 by the closing date (fax +619 380 1036).

The University of Western Australia is an equal opportunity employer and
promotes a smoke-free work environment.
 
Newsgroups: aus.jobs
From: chans@cs.curtin.edu.au (Sean Chan)
Subject: Work Experience required...(Perth)
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 05:45:03 GMT

Gidday,

I am a 3rd yr Computer Science student at Curtin and will be graduating
at the end of this year. Basically, I would like to get any work
experience (yes, without pay) in programming and/or system
administration from now till the end of the year.

Please e-mail me for my CV or other details. Otherwise, I can be
contacted on (09) 316 1787 every morning. 

Thank you,

Sean Chan
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* Student Number : 892561F               *   there is a little man    *
* 3rd Yr. Computer Science               *   running around doing     *
* Curtin University of Technology        *   everything you have      *
*                                        *   asked him to do...       *
* E-Mail : chans@marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au  *                            *
*          pchans@cc.curtin.edu.au       ******************************
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From: s915074@otto (Vitor TEN)
Newsgroups: aus.jobs
Subject: Accounting 1993 Position Wanted
Date: 30 Sep 92 07:03:48 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: otto.bf.rmit.oz.au

If you are about to advertise an accounting position please notify
me through email.
Or if you have a job available for a second year accounting student
Thank you in advance.

Email to s915074@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au
Xref: sparky aus.jobs:341 misc.jobs.offered:11699
From: robertt@mel.dbce.csiro.au (Robert Thompson)
Newsgroups: aus.jobs,misc.jobs.offered,csiro.general
Subject: RESEARCHER IN FACADE ENG JOB
Summary: research job offered
Keywords: researcher, job, facade
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:22:35 GMT
Followup-To: dickson@syd.dbce.csiro.au
Organization: CSIRO, Div. Building Constr. and Eng'ing, Melb., Australia






RESEARCHER IN FACADE ENGINEERING

A challenging opportunity for a top flight researcher

$ 46-65K  + Superannuation

Division of Building, Construction & Engineering
North Ryde - NSW - Australia


The Division is involved in research on the weather resistance of facades with respect to wind pressure, water penetration and hail impact.

You will be leading a team participating in theoretical and experimental investigation of this research as well as liaising with industry. One of your main responsibilities will be to supervise the construction and operation of what will be one of the lar
gest dynamic wind and rain testing facilities in the world. You will be supervising staff involved in computational wind engineering and a unit undertaking commercial weather testing of facades for industry. The Division may also be involved in a Cooperat
ive Research Centre of Facade Engineering in which you would play a major role.

You should have a PhD or equivalent qualification in engineering, architecture or building science with significant experience in research and development into building facades, high rise buildings and wind engineering showing innovation and creativity, a
nd have well developed management, communication and interpersonal skills. Previous experience in industry and in management of commercial R & D is desirable.

Dr George Walker on (61 2) 934-3466 can provide more information regarding the position. Ms Carolyn Fitton on (61 2) 934-3449 will supply a detailed job description and selection criteria. Both are contactable by fax on (61 2) 934-3555.

Please forward your application framed against the selection criteria and including relevant personal particulars, details of your skills, qualifications and work achievements, quoting Ref No NT RS/4 marked "Confidential", to: Laboratory Personnel Manager
, CSIRO, Division of Building, Construction & Engineering, PO Box 310, North Ryde NSW 2113. Closing date for applications: 6/10/92




CSIRO IS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER

 

Please send any email replies to:   dickson@syd.dbce.csiro.au