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Date:         Fri, 1 Jan 1993 20:33:05 -0500
From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Santa, are you listening?

Gary, darlin'

>OK, Santa, I hope you're listening. Here's what I want for Christmas.
>
>The new Dream Theatre,

You totally made my day! I love Dream Theatre, but I'm biased - my best
friend from summer camp's older brother is Michael Portnoy. I'll have to
tell her that someone mentioned DT on this list!!!!!

Marsha

Marsha J. Ferziger
University of Chicago School of Law
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:47:01 EST
From:         jc-s <GE777009@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: ALLMUSIC compilation tape

done it.


jenna
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 11:31:19 PST
From:         Dan Strong <DANS@UCSFHC.BITNET>

please add me to the list
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Date:         Sat, 26 Dec 1992 19:34:17 EST
From:         Big Al <DBITTA@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      Keyboards

Dear Paul:

About that $250 Yamaha -- DON'T WASTE YOUR CASH!
You'd be better off going with a Radio Shack Pocket Piano.
It's just as good and it's about $249 less.
Wait for eight Christmases to pass buy, save them up, and buy a Korg T-3.
Unless you want to sound like the backup band for Whitney Houston.

Big Al
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>You really know "n.n." is bored when he states his favorite Madonna song...
>:-)

  Yeah, you know it. The fishin' on ol' Flame Lake ain't what it used to
be, y'know. There was a time when you could tie on the Vinnie lure and have
several nibbles -- hell, you might even land one. But no more. Now you have
to break out the live bait!
  Not to be argumentative with the Bloomster, but _Shadows & Light_ contains
NO cheese, and is, in fact, 100% cholesterol-free. Maybe a sprinkling of
saccharin, but absolutely dairy-free. Tastes great, less bloating, too.

  Jeff ("n.n.")

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From: lmm@cis.ksu.edu (ATT Larry M. McWilliams)
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Subject: christmas song 'The Restroom Door Said Gentlemen'
Date: 22 Dec 92 16:59:53 GMT
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Summary: I need the words to 'The Restroom Door Said Gentlemen'
Keywords: christmas song lyrics

Hello,

On the way to work this morning, I heard the funniest song on the
radio, sung to the tune of 'GOD REST YE MERRY GENTLEMEN'.

It went something like this ...

THE RESTROOM DOOR SAID GENTLEMEN,
SO I WENT RIGHT INSIDE,
BUT WHAT TO MY SURPRISE
THERE WERE SOME WOMEN THERE INSIDE.
        { the rest I can't remember too cleary }

It goes on to talk about how there were
3 old ladies, 2 nuns and a nurse.

Also something about how he got kicked
and that he couldn't sit with 'comfort and joy,
no he could not sit with comfort and joy'.

Does anybody know where I can get the words to this
tune?

Larry McWilliams, dept 0305
AT&T Network Systems
PO BOX 26060
Oklahoma City, OK 73126


   PHONE: (405) 491-5341
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From:         "Out,
              out - you'll not feel the fall-out..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      Is this a foreign language or what?

Just thinking... I'm listening to the 3rd volume of the King Crimson's mon-
ster box "Frame By Frame". There are two songs I've known for some years,
but still the meaning of titles escapes me; they are

Matte Kudasai
Thela Hun Jingeet

        Does anyone know what this means? I suspect Matte Kudasai might be
a name, but I have no hint about the other one. Maybe Bloomster has a clue,
this time :)...

        Ciao, Marco
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Date:         Sat, 2 Jan 1993 12:35:38 EST
From:         Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Demagnetizing

  Well, it's like this.  Inside something that has been
magnetized are a whole bunch of magnetic moments - like
mini-magnets.  The stronger the magnet, the more of those
moments that are pointing in the same direction.

  So, your tape heads, when they get magnetized, have
more of those magnetic moments pointing in one direction
than the other.  You want to fix that.  So you put the
head in a magnetic field aimed in the opposite direction.
So, that turns the moments the other way - finished, right?

  Wrong.  See, now you have an excess of moments pointing
the other way.  So, flip the field again...now you flip
the polarity of the magnetization in the heads back in the
original direction....

  Well, there's an answer.  Let's flip the polarity of
the field quickly, so the magnetization in the heads
keeps changing polarity, and then slowly reduce the
magnetic field.  Now, the magnetization in the heads
changes polarity rapidly, but as the field gets smaller,
the magnetization in the heads gets smaller.  When the
field finally goes to zero, there is no net magnetization
left in the tape heads.

  The demagnetizer you own creates a strong magnetic field
that keeps flipping polarity.  You reduce the field on the
heads by moving the demagnetizer away from the heads slowly
and evenly.

  If you move away too fast or erratically, you leave excess
magnetization in the heads, so you haven't fixed anything.

  Those little automatic cassette sized things both control
the flipping of the field and automatically reduce the field
slowly and evenly.  The catch is that they only demag the
playback head well, where the gadget you've got will demag
everything you aim it at - capstans, erase heads, stray bits
and pieces of metal in the deck.... (loose cassette tapes,
floppy discs, credit cards, etc.)

  For all you scientists and future scientists - a little
extra detail - the reason you can't just go straight to zero,
but have to reverse the field, is because of hysteresis.  When
you bring the field to zero, you leave some residual magnetization.
So, if you flip the field and reduce it slowly and evenly, you
get a hysteresis loop around zero magnetization which slowly
converges on zero as the field strength drops.  This is the same
reason you have a bias frequency when recording cassettes.
Without the rapidly flipping bias signal, the hysteresis effects
would distort the signal being recorded.

                  -Tim
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:01:20 EST
From:         Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      piss metal

(the subject line just to be sure I have everyone's
 attention)

what David was talking about, when Len was talking
about, and what I was talking about may be a couple
of different issues.  Bloomdido did a good job of
making a stew of them all.  Let me try to clarify
my own remarks.

  1) censorship is when the govt. steps in and stops
     distribution.
  2) a burr up your butt is when you get offended by
     someone's particular expression of free speech

I think it is perfectly okay for Len to get a burr up
his butt over people slamming his Main Man.  I think it
is perfectly okay for other people to get a burr up their
own over, say, piss malcom.

I understood Len's question to be why people get a burr
up their butt over one but not the other, with the implication
being that it is hypocritical.  I think there is no hypocrisy,
and no problem - if you are easily offended, go for it.  Just
don't expect us all to agree or even sympathize with you.  I
gave a rationale for the difference in concern over piss christ
and piss malcom.  Work yourself up over whichever you please.

David (it was david, wasn't it?) seemed to confuse this with
censorship.  If I protest or picket or launch into a tirade
over Danzig, that isn't censorship.  If I gather up the LPs
and burn them, that isn't censorship.  If I ask the govt. to
do that, it is.

It is very important to distinguish between people who are
protesting the message and people who are protesting the
freedom to present the message.

It may seem a subtle distinction, but it is an important
one.  Freedom of speech means freedom to oppose ideas, too.

Okay?

              -Tim
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 11:09:49 CST
From:         El chahuistli <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      December drivel

Odds & ends for Allmusicdom.

Anyone have the scoop on The Space Negros' _The Space Negros Do Generic Ethnic
Muzak [tm] Versions of all Your Favorite Punk/Psychedelic Songs from the Sixtie
s_ ?  Bloom, as you probably know, this is a Cambridge band.  Is this any good?
The title itself is quite intriguing.  It's on the Arf Arf label.

And what about Hal Russell's _Hal's Bells_ (ECM)? It's described as a "nod to A
lbert Eyler by the late multi-instrumentalist."  I know there was a lot of talk
 about Eyler a bit back.  Surely, this might interest Sonia.

Disagree respectfully (but vehemently) with whoever ranked Albert King *below*
the other Kings in terms of guitar work.  For my money --what there is of it--
I'd take Albert *any* day.

Didn't see the name of Giuliani in the list of interesting/essential works for
guitar.  He's one of my favorites.

Novel use for broken 78s: a creative soul took shards of the edges of broken
78s, wrapped them with fine golden chicken wire, hung little glass beads from t
hem, and fashioned them as pendants to be worn on labels.  It really took me
a while to figure out what the dark rounded things were -- until I got close an
d actually saw the grooves.  (Perhaps they were left over from the Great 78
Massacre committed by Sonia's mother? ;-) )

Been listening a lot to Elmore James box set on Capricorn.  It's truly marvelou
s.  I'll try to post something on it for year's end.  Will probably be my last
post in quite a while. :(

Renato (Who starts teaching in exactly two weeks) Barahona
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 09:21:15 PDT
From:         David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Lenster and the Big Guy

>>It seems kinda strange that if it were album covers showing disrepect of
>>Homosexuals or minorities.....etc, there would be an uproar and boycotts
>>but i guess God is fair game, I don't want to start a disscussion on
>>religion I know most of you don't believe, but maybe one day you'll "see
>>the light".................L.W.
>
>Well, Len, I think the reasoning is that God can pretty well
>take care of himself, and people dissing the Old Man are only
>putting their own eternal life in jeopardy.  On the other hand,
>when a society turns against its minorities, things can get
>awfully tough for those folks.  I trust I won't have to make
>a list of examples (and one need not restrict oneself to the
>states in this).
>

Leonard has made a good point here, and I don't think Tim's answer really
addresses it.

What Leonard's post has touched on is the arrogant hypocrisy that afflicts
the 'politically-correct' left. Recall when Jesse Helms expressed outrage at
the sculptor Andres Serrano's depiction of a crucifix in a jar of urine
(entitled "Piss Christ"). Though Helms was trying to stop federal money from
financing such art (and Lord knows, the federal-funding thread has been
frazzled to death here already!), his true motive was seen, and rightly so IMO,
as censorship. And everyone in the arts and music community, and all the PC
activists and noisemakers, rose to defend Serrano and his art. No problem.

But suppose another artist depicted a photo, drawing, or sculpture of, say,
Malcolm X in a jar of urine, with a nice, inoffensive title like "Piss
Malcolm"? Would those who condemned Helms now rise up in support of this
artist and his work? Ha, ha, ha. Hell, no, they wouldn't.

That's where the argument lies here. There seems to be general agreement in
the arts community that you can attack some people's icons, but not others'.
The only word that describes that attitude is hypocrisy.

So if there's room for Danzig (or Serrano, for that matter) in your world,
is there room for Skrewdriver, too?


David
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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 14:18:14 -0500
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Keyboard Man from Russia

>Hey Allmusickdom, I'm back.  While in Calif. I met a new arrival from Russia
>who is a keyboard man (hard rock) who is looking for a band or at any rate,
>some people to play with.  I told him to go to guitar/music stores and look at
>the announcement board and put up his own notice, but I also thought maybe some
>of youse out there might have some contacts.  His name is Misha--he lives in
>San Bernardino.  If you have some ideas, send me a private e-mail and I'll give
>you a phone number.  Really nice guy, nuts about music, also has a good singing
>voice.  He's only been here a month and is kind of lost.

WARNING!  POSSIBLE WEIRD CONNECTION!

About a year ago, I was "auditioning" for a band (it actually turned out
the other way around, but back to the point).  The audition took place
at the drummer's house.  Seems there was also this Russian guy, named
Misha, who played keyboards, who was staying with the drummer.  Misha
didn't have any keys of his own, he used the singer/keyboardists.  And
he had no money.  Guess the drummer found him wandering the streets of
Portland, Maine, -kind of lost-, felt bad for him and took him home.
He could play, but didn't want to play the blues/roots/rock the band
was looking for.  He was more interested in "big-hair and spandex" rock.
The real problem was that he wouldn't leave.  It was a Problem.

Odds are unlikely it's the same guy, but caution is advised.

Also, on this "audition".  This drummer had a studio behind his "house".
The studio was loaded with recording goodies, etc.  It was bigger than
his house.  His house had 4 rooms (bedroom, kitchen, living room, bathroom),
where he lived with his wife and kid (and Misha).  The furniture etc. was
old sponge cushions with blankets on them.  But his studio was top-o-the-
line.  I felt like slapping some sense into the jerk.  Some people.
Obviously I'm still pissed at the guy.

And, at the time, the drummer and singer had just quit a band, because
they didn't want to play Elvis covers at the VFW.  Turns out, the man
who wanted to play Elvis at the VFW is one of the physicists I now work
with.  And, the singer had auditioned for one of *my* bands many years
earlier!  Her name was Slocum.  I'm not kidding.

Russ
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:29:27 CST
From:         Leonard Watkins <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Women bands

John Mayall's wife, Maggie Mayall has a successful all-girl band featuring
Debbie Davies (wife of Coco Montoya), who was "second-fiddle" in Albert
Collins's band b4 going off on her own, she's one of the best women players
I've seen, a real "blues" player, much better slide-less player than Bonnie
Raitt.

Saffire is another all-girl band that is very talented, they may not be your
cup-o-tea, but they are very talented muscially.

Maybe the lack of Women bands is because of the old adage:
"Women are made to be seen, not heard" or something like that, which of course
is Bullshit........L."SOLD MY &*#%ING HOUSE" W.
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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:10:54 KST
From:         DMetcalf%IC-LOG@WALKER-LTT.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      BACK IN TH' SADDLE (AGAIN)

Hi, netters

    Well, just got back from my rather abbreviated tour of Alabummer
& Ohio... MUCH fun!  Got to watch my first boy get married, avoided
all fights/encounters with the ex, & even got in a little studio
work while down there (apologies to Crispen; got in touch with so
many friends I didn't have time to call ANYONE)!

     Moved on up to Ohio & visited with family, as well as a neat
little home-studio collab gig with John M. Bennett & Ficus Strang-
ulensis!  Probably be ready for release at the end of January!

     Back in th' saddle again, came home to a TUNNA mail, tapes,
etc., for review in 'I.N.' #8.  Oh, BTW, Jeremy, my snailmail is
Dick Metcalf, HQ, 19th SUPCOM, Unit 15015, PO BX 2879, APO AP
96218-0171.  Don't some OTHER folks owe me reviews on the tapes I
sent out last month too?  Please remember, I need 'em by about the
middle of January for them to make it in #8 - which is what I WANT
to do!

     Also got the latest issue of GAJOOB (#9) - it's STILL the BEST
home-taper 'zine around, & was just JAMMED with great reviews, inter-
views, contact addresses & all the rest we've come to expect from
Bryan Baker out in SLC.  If anyone is interested in that, let me know
& I'll post his address again!  For ANYONE in to independent production,
this is THE ticket... he's also doin' a radio show there that features
MUCH in the way of exposure for those who DO something with their
talents!  Not to mention that there was a FINE interview with th'
ROTCOD in there!

     To all who I missed during this trek, my most SINCERE apologies!
It was REALLY a rush this time - I met (or re-met) folks I'd never
known I knew before!

     KEEP ON nettin' in '93!

ZZAJ
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Date:         Fri, 25 Dec 1992 18:03:17 CST
From:         Paul Heroy <HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Electronic Keyboards

Merry Christmas, alla youse allmusicers still hanging around!

Spurred to a renewed interest in the piano because of various folks on this
list and on JAZZ-L who play instruments, I've increasingly had the urge
lately to start playing again. That, and the gorgeous baby grand sitting in
my parents' den that I want to wheedle out of them :-) (Hasn't been used in
quite a while unfortunately, and is in need of maintenance - I checked it
today and only 22 keys played.)

Now, I can't yet quite swing convincing my mom that her eldest son, her pride
and joy, deserves to be bequeathed this instrument, when I've barely touched
a keyboard in 10 years. I need to convince myself a wee bit too, before
asking, that my interest is serious. To that end, I am thinking of getting an
electronic keyboard so I can start playing. I *might* consider a used upright
piano also, but I don't know what kind of price one goes for and whether it's
worth it. As it happens, the December issue of Consumer Reports has an article
on electronic keyboards. They rated the Yamaha PSR300 higher than any of the
moderately priced boards. Well, knowing my own opinion of some of CR's tests,
I want to do a little more research than that, and besides looking for reviews
in musician-oriented magazines, I do plan on doing some in person trials at
local instrument shops. The Yamaha unit should be available in the vicinity
of $250, maybe less, and I can't really go any higher than that.

So now I'm looking for opinions from any of you that know about such beasties.
I definitely do want to play an actual piano at some point, with 88 keys,
real piano sound, sensitivity to hand force, etc., and I know that will be
mostly lacking in any electronic keyboard (particularly one I can afford),
though I may also become interested in some of the 'high tech' features of the
electronic units (he says, as he bangs away on his Mac :-). I'd appreciate any
insights, tips, and so forth anyone cares to give.

BTW, thanks mucho to Adam for posting Page McConnell's thesis on improv - it
was very interesting to read, and is one reason I'm writing this note today!

Paul
From: michaels@aludra.usc.edu (Michael Adam Schmidt)
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Subject: New record (Eric Marienthal)
Date: 31 Dec 1992 14:57:03 -0800
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Summary: New promo record w/Eric Marienthal
Keywords: Promo release Features E. Marienthal

HELLO:   I have recently finished a new record project with Eric
Marienthal (saxophone Chick Corea's Electrik Band), Christoph Luty
Acoustic Bass, Dean Koba, Todd Trible & myself.

The music is in the style of progressive jazz ie: Brecker/steps, Metheny,
Charlie Haden, Chick Corea, Towner, ect.

I would like to promote the album this year and will send free copies to
all interested parties.  Just cover my costs.  Chrome-tape & postage.

Best Wishes,

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 

Michael Adam Schmidt                       michaels@aludra.usc.edu
Academic Computing Centre
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Sal CS Project                             michaels@scf.usc.edu

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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 13:06:23 CST
From:         Leonard Watkins <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: ALLMUSIC compilation tape
              22 Dec 1992 24:56:00 EST from <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>

On Tue, 22 Dec 1992 24:56:00 EST <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL> said:
>Let me tell y'all something: They've done this over on the heavy metal list
>4 times already. I have the latest volume. Here's how it works: People
>pick a favorite song, usually something that is not mainstream.
>A master tape is made of all the songs, someone dubs the tapes and distributes
>them to all those interested. I got my tape for only $4.

Let's see the heavy metal tape was $4 .....hm...hm.....Does that mean they
pay you $4 to listen to it or do you pay them $4 to listen to it...............
either way you got ripped off...(just some lame humor).....:-)..L.W.
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Date:         Thu, 24 Dec 1992 21:02:37 EST
From:         "Michael Lehnertz (Drummer)" <TZJ101@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      Vinnie...

   And this is from rec.arts.music.makers.percussion...

I originally asked the question of what albums has Colaiuta played on.
I saw him live with Dave Sanborn about 3 years ago on LI.  He flew
in three nights before, learned the songs in one night, had
one rehearsal and played a KILLER show.  I had seen Rush 3 or 4
nights before and Coliauta made Neil Peart look like a beginner.

   (Hahahahahaha! I love this list. Lotsa Vinnie fans!)



                                    - Drummer -
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