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From: v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: RISING SUN movie was Re: Jurassic Park Spoiler (almost)
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:07:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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In article <1e5m8iINNfqo@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver) writes...
>In article <Bxr5JE.BM8@acsu.buffalo.edu> v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey) writes:
>>In article <1e0rp0INNnd7@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver) writes...
>>>	I think "Rising Sun" is already shooting.  Stars Sean Connery, Wesley
>>>Snipes, and Tia Carrere.  The casting alone makes it sound like an excellent
>>>movie, although I thought Connery's character (or what I'm assuming is to be
>>>his character) was from Southern California, not Scotland :).
>>> 
>>     That's okay: I thought Snipes' character was _white_.  :-)
> 
>	So did I.  Then again, I don't think he was ever explicitly mentioned
>as being white.  It may make for some interesting conflicts with the Japanese.

     Agreed, considering the Japanese penchant for stamping everything
     with the "RACIST" label in RISING SUN.  Seems like an easily
     adaptable novel, and it's a good cast, so my hopes are high.
     (Besides, Tia Carrere doesn't get to speak... we're home clear).
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From: caspar@sci.kun.nl (Caspar Terheggen)
Subject: Identify this movie
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 09:57:53 GMT

Can anyone identify this movie?  It's about a haunted house,
and a group of scientists who try to unravel the mysteries.
It's an old movie, but still; there may be some spoilers ahead.

I only remember a few, at that time very scary, scenes:  The
chapel plays an important role and towards the end of the movie
the researchers discover a corpse (well preserved) sitting in
a chair and "directing" all phenomena.  I also remember that
during a dinner, some sort of tray with candles on sharp spikes
starts to move, all candles drop off and the tray with spikes
shoots towards one of the scientists who nearly gets nailed to
his chair (nowadays he would not have been so lucky I guess).
Note that it is not "The Haunting", which was broadcasted by
the BBC only a week or so ago.

Any help is greatly appreciated,

Cheers,
Caspar.
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From: g.cobcroft@hawkesbury.uws.EDU.AU (Greg Cobcroft)
Subject: Re: Werner Herzog's Nosferatu
Organization: University of Western Sydney, Hawkesbury
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:15:26 GMT

In article <1e0q5oINNlqk@bigboote.WPI.EDU> driel@wpi.WPI.EDU (Deborah M Riel) writes:

>Does anyone know if Werner Herzog's Nosferatu, 1979, starring Klaus
>Kinski, is available on videotape?  If so, how could I order it?  I'm
>only interested in this version, not the older one.

>Thanks for any info.

>Debbie (driel@wpi.wpi.edu)

According to Leonard Maltin's Movie and Video Guide this movie is NOT 
available on video.
     
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From: darrenl@natinst.com (Darren Lilie)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Extended versions on T.V.
Date: 16 Nov 92 10:33:37 GMT
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In article <17517@mindlink.bc.ca> Charlie_Hutchins@mindlink.bc.ca (Charlie Hutchins) writes:
>This may seem a bit ambitious but I would like to know what movies
>(especially science fiction films) have appeared on television with extra
>footage. I know both Star Trek II and Aliens have been on t.v. with extra

The first Superman movie had extra footage when he was going to Lex Luthor's
hideout he walked thru fire and other obstacles to get to Lex which was not
shown in the movie.

Also, on Airplane! the tv version showed a family calling out to their friend
Jack in the airport by saying "Hi Jack", "Hi Jack" while standing in front of
a sign that said Hijacking is a criminal offense or something like that.  The
airport security then came and grabbed them.

This is all I can think of right now.

Darren
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: R.F.Burton's 1001 Arabian Nights in Dracula (was OLDMAN WAS A SEXY VAMP
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:46:53 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <BxtL5C.HB8@inews.Intel.COM>, mdouglas@cad067.NoSubdomain.NoDomain 
(Maria Douglas ) writes:

> Fourth, why were there pictures from the Kama Sutra in the book 
> "1001 Arabian Nights"?

Translated (shown right there on the cover) by the one, the only...
Richard Francis Burton!!!  He was indeed the Victorian adventurer/
spy/linguist/duelist/translator that brought both the Kama Sutra and
1001 Arabian Nights to the western world.

My guess is that the original 1001 AN was very different than the well 
known sanatized/cencored version, and did in fact contain many secrets
of eroticism, OR they decided to merge the two of them together (since they
both were translated originally by Burton).

For a film treatment of this hyphenate historical figure, check out 
Patrick Bergin in _The Mountains of the Moon_!

Greg Bole                                   "For blood is the life!"
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu          Gary Oldman in _Bram Stoker's Dracula_
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From: dyrda@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Richard Dyrda)
Subject: Re: A DIEHARD Question II
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 22:08:39 GMT

>>In <75254@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:
>>But!  How did HANS know that name?
>>How did he know that there was someone who worked here named Bill Clay?
>>And how did he know that it was on the marquee?

 Hans probably killed the real Bill Clay earlier, or perhaps he heard
someone mentioning it. The best scene in Die Hard was when the computer
geek and Karl we're betting to see if Hans would kill the CEO! 

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From: peterme@ocf.berkeley.edu (Peter Merholz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Morphing in DRACULA
Date: 16 Nov 1992 18:38:30 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: earthquake.berkeley.edu

Coppola keeps talking about how he eschewed post-production effects for
in-camera effects to capture that "early cinema" feel... However, at the
end, when Dracula turns back into Vlad (thanks to the light of the Lord)
wasn't that a morphing effect? And if so, doesn't that throw out Coppola's
claim of not using high-tech sfx? (If it wasn't a morphing effect, then it 
was a series of dissolves, but the transformation seemed too smooth to these
eyes...)

Just curious!

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From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: spike lee &  boston celtics
Date: 20 Nov 92 09:12:21
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
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In-reply-to: barrus@cod.nosc.mil's message of Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:22:42 GMT

barrus@cod.nosc.mil writes:
|>> His movies reflect (and encourage) thinking in very limited terms.
|>I think just the opposite. These movies serve a very useful function
|>of exposing middle class whites (like myself) to points of view other
|>than the ones we meet in our day to day lives. And, in fact, these are
|>points of view that we as a nation will have to understand and do
|>something about. What were the LA riots other than the result of the
|>people in power in this nation ignoring exactly the problems presented
|>in this movie?

|Wait a minute.  If this were true, why does he seemingly go out of his way to 
|piss the middle class whites off before they ever even get a chance to go see 
|his movies. Statements in the press showing his separist views and his "white 
|people just don't get it attitude" are enough that I wouldn't spend any money 
|to finance his future projects of trying to push his opinion down my throat.  
|Same reason I won't see Oliver Stone films.  Maybe if I was involved in the 
|film industry I would see them because it would be my job, but I am not, so I 
|can make a choice.  If he was trying to make films to enlighten white folks, 
|then he would be better served by trying to get whites to go see the film 
|rather than alienating them.  It seems that he is making films to enlighten 
|only black folks as if white folks don't fit in the equation of eventual 
|racial harmony.  To me this is severely limited thinking if not actually 
|racist.

Ha!  Do you honestly think that he is making films to "enlighten only
Black folks"?  His subject matter is such that this is almost
impossible!  It would be like JFK being done to enlighten students of
Jim Garrison.

In any case, since lots of middle class Whites see his films, your
assertions seem to fall short of reality.	

Again, Malcolm X is an excellent film.
--
Peace.
"I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the
 social and political equality of the white and black races--I am not,
 nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor
 of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people."
                                      -Abraham Lincoln
                                       First Lincoln-Douglas Debate
                                       August 21, 1858
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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Tough question but perhaps wrong group
Date: 19 Nov 1992 21:11:45 GMT
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
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In <3921@master.CNA.TEK.COM> mikeq@freddy.CNA.TEK.COM writes:

> Along these same lines, CNN today had a blip about Arnie Steroidnegger
> suing someone for releasing an early gay porn film he starred in.
> 
> Now, is this the same Arnie that cozies up to George ``nomohomo'' Bush??
> 
> Hmmmmmm. Enquiring minds want to know.

  I believe the pics in question came from some scenes shot in a shower for
the musclebuilding semi-documentary "Pumping Iron" and some tabloid has been
claiming they were from a gay porn movie.


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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From: spongebo@cithara.login.qc.ca (THE EYE-BALL KID)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Anthony Hopkins
Date: 22 Nov 92 03:02:36 GMT
Organization: Organ Grinders Monkeys Union With Penguins As Mascots

anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman) writes:

> In article <BxtIqu.3u2@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, nancyl@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Nancy 
> |> Would love to know of other movies he has been in.  Just rented "84
> |> Charing Cross Road" which was nice.  And will be seeing "Dracula" at
> |> some point.  Have seen "Silence of the Lambs".    Any suggestions/
> |> reviews would be very welcomed.... thanks.
> |> 
> 
> THE BUNKER!  THE BUNKER!  THE BUNKER!!!
> 
> Hopkins' best performance in my opinion. Would you rather see Hopkins play a
> fictional psychopath, ie Hannibal the Cannibal, or a REAL psychopath, ie Adol
> Hitler in "The Bunker." Hopkins plays Hitler's last month or so of life when 
> holed up in a Berlin bunker, waiting for the Russians to finish him off. It i
> truly fascinating performance. I was mesmerized the whole 2 or 3 hours (I for
> how long it was). Anyway, does anyone know if this is available on videotape?
> 
> Also check him out in QBVII (that's QB-7 in American), where he plays an
> ex-concentration camp doctor trying to atone for the sins of his past.
> 
> I also thought he was really good in "MAGIC," "The Elephant Man," and "Mussol
> and I." Look for an early screen performance by him in "The Lion in Winter" w
> he plays Richard the Lionheart (It's not often you see actors like Hopkins an
> Timothy Dalton talking about having sex with each other).
> 
> By the way, how many of you knew that Hopkins and Richard Burton grew up in t
> same small Welsh coal-mining town together?
> 
> Anthony


Hopkins also turns up in a BRILIANT performance playing the man who was 
tried and executed for the Lindberg Kidnapping. Sorry, i don't have the 
Title, or the date (I think Martin Balsam was in it). Hopkins is 
excellent.

he does, however, make a less than impresive appearance in "Audrey Rose", 
which I hated.


Spongebo - THE EYE-BALL KID (:::::-)

spongebo@cithara.login.qc.ca
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From: roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby)
Subject: Re: Morphing in DRACULA
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:31:44 GMT

In article <JASON.92Nov18133807@ab20.larc.nasa.gov> Jason C. Austin <j.c.austin@larc.nasa.gov> writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.202149.488@pony.Ingres.COM> walker@Ingres.COM (Lynn Walker) writes:
>-> In article <1e8pr6INN9lm@agate.berkeley.edu>, peterme@ocf.berkeley.edu (P writes...
>-> >Coppola keeps talking about how he eschewed post-production effects for
>-> >in-camera effects to capture that "early cinema" feel... However, at the
>-> >end, when Dracula turns back into Vlad (thanks to the light of the Lord)
>-> >wasn't that a morphing effect? And if so, doesn't that throw out Coppola's
>-> >claim of not using high-tech sfx? (If it wasn't a morphing effect, then it 
>-> >was a series of dissolves, but the transformation seemed too smooth to these
>-> >eyes...)
>-> > 
>-> >Just curious!
>-> > 
>-> For the benefit of all us non-technical film buffs....what is MORPHING?
>-> Thanks.
>-> 
>-> 			-- Lynn --
>
>	It's a computer graphics technique that takes two
>two-dimensional images and generates the steps in between to create a
>smooth transition.  It was used heavily in T2 to make the T1000 change
>shape.  There's also a recent commercial that has various objects
>morphing into a compact disk.

In case you haven't seen T2, morphing was also used in: 
The Abyss (the water creature)
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country (the shape shifter)
Michael Jackson's Black and White Video
Stephen King's Sleepwalkers (shape shifting)

Computer morphing provides much smoother looking transformations 
between disparate images.  Compare any of the morphing above with, 
say, the werewolf tranformation of Lon Chaney, Jr. in The Wolfman 
(or Abbott and Costallo meet Frankenstein  :-)  which were done 
with slow camera dissolves over intermediate make-ups.

I haven't yet seen "Francis Ford Coppola's Brahm Stoker's Dracula"  >8-)= , 
so I can't add my own opinion as to whether it was morphing or not.  
If it wasn't, but still looks like morphing, I'd be very curious 
to know how it was done.


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From: frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney)
Subject: Re: TOP TEN by Frank R.A.J. Maloney
Date: 20 Nov 92 04:24:37 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Windows/DOS Users Ed Group

In article <muhlig.20.0@usctoux1.cto.us.edu.pl> muhlig@usctoux1.cto.us.edu.pl (Maciek Uhlig) writes:
>Sorry, my mailer doesn't see microsoft.com.
>Frank, why did you stop sending TOP TEN list?
>Maciek
>

Maciek, how kind of you to notice. I've been distracted by a
family problem -- to tell the truth, my mother had a massive
stroke and lay in a nursing home for three weeks. She died
two nights ago. I've starting to get all the paperwork and
legal stuff under control and will be posting a topten
tomorrow.

And for those of you who care, I'm feeling ok and things are
under control. I did take a break from it all and went to A
RIVER RUNS THROUGH IT which turned out to be an eeriely
relevant film choice.

(I'm posting from home this week.)

-- 
Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
	"Well, I'm a little muddled." -- Glinda
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From: Charlie_Hutchins@mindlink.bc.ca (Charlie Hutchins)
Subject: Extended versions on T.V.
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:56:18 GMT

This may seem a bit ambitious but I would like to know what movies
(especially science fiction films) have appeared on television with extra
footage. I know both Star Trek II and Aliens have been on t.v. with extra
scenes not included in either the theatrical or video release. If someone
would be so kind as to document  any of these extended t.v. movies and the
extra scenes they have, I would be grateful. I'm quite interested in finding
out what movies I should tape off television. Please E-mail me any bits of
your knowledge. Thanks.
From: il@bambam.u.washington.edu (Il Hwan Oh)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: spike lee &  boston celtics
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:22:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov18.212243.27945
Reply-To: iho@cac.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Tacoma

reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:

> By the way, if people are skipping his films because they don't like
> Lee personally, you are missing some very good films.  Regardless of
> whether you agree with him, Lee is a talented filmmaker whose films 
> don't resemble anyone else's.  There is strong artistic merit in Lee's
> films, and those serious about film are making a mistake if they skip
> his films.

I've seen a few of his films (_Do_The_Right_Thing_, _Mo'_Better_Blues_,
and _Jungle_Fever_) and have to disagree with you.  While they were
interesting to watch, I wouldn't have minded missing them.  I watch
a lot of movies and will probably see _Malcom_X_ eventually, but I
won't go out of my way to see it.

If you don't agree Spike Lee's public opinions, chances are fairly good
that you won't like his movies.  His movies incorporate a lot of very
stylistic elements and uniquely innovative techniques.  I could really
get into them if it weren't for his in-your-face, shove-it-down-your-throat
style of preaching in these movies.  It's also blatantly obvious that
the movies were written and directed by a black person, and I think
there's a lot more to life than that.  His movies reflect (and encourage)
thinking in very limited terms.

-- 
Il Hwan Oh                              | "You live and learn.
Computer Facilities Manager             |   At any rate, you live."
University of Washington, Tacoma        |            -- Douglas Adams
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From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Subject: The Creation of Mickey Mouse
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:39:07 GMT

Does anyone know where I can get a comprehensive history of the
creation of Mickey Mouse?  I don't want to buy any books, but a friend
of mine is teaching a third grade class about Mickey Mouse during
'Disney week' and needs some interesting facts and stories.  Please
respond to the address below. 


Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
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From: ych@cs.utah.edu (Yuan Hsieh)
Subject: Re: REVIEW: BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA (SPOILERS)
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:49:29 MST
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

In article <1eb8i4INNfqh@transfer.stratus.com> jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com writes:
>I disagree. Dracula IS evil in this film, though he also has
>a good side. He brings home a baby to feed to the female vampires
>at the castle.  

I disagree, where's evil in the food chain?

>He kills Lucy. 

No, he did not kill Lucy, the mad professor and his gane of three killed Lucy.
Admittedly, he turned Lucy into a vampire, but is that so bad?  


-Y'



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From: ssc@nwu.edu (Steven Chung)
Subject: Re: Joan of Arc gossip
Originator: schung@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 04:20:08 GMT


Sinead, as Joan of Arc?  Is this some kind of sick joke?

What, if any info is there about a Joan of Arc film?  I'd like to see
Shaw's version done well...
From: dianetti@acsu.buffalo.edu (Donald J. Dianetti)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Tough question but perhaps wrong group
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:31:26 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <3921@master.CNA.TEK.COM> mikeq@freddy.CNA.TEK.COM (Mike Quigley) writes:
>In article <102458@bu.edu> kuchar@buast7.bu.edu (Tom Kuchar) writes:
>
>              *Lots o' stuff omitted*
>
>>The film was orginally called `Party at Kitty and Stud's' and fell
>>into obscurity.  It was retitled `Italian Stallion' after Rocky made
>>Stallone famous, to capitalize on his fame. So the nickname was based
>>on Rocky and not the aforemention skin flick. It's available on video
>>from cult movie outlets. By today's standards, it would receive an R
>>
>
>Along these same lines, CNN today had a blip about Arnie Steroidnegger
>suing someone for releasing an early gay porn film he starred in.
>
>Now, is this the same Arnie that cozies up to George ``nomohomo'' Bush??
>
>Hmmmmmm. Enquiring minds want to know.
>
Err, not quite.  The tabloid in question was sued _because_ they said
that Arnie had appeared in a gay porno many years ago.
Arnie had posed nude for a book about bodybuilding (circa 1975?  I think
it was meant to be a companion to the film "Pumping Iron")  It was
more for the interest of bodybuilding than for anything sexual.  
As it turned out, the nude photos were not used in the book, but this
tabloid got a hold of one of them and claimed it was a still frame
from a gay porno.  Arnie recently was awarded an undisclosed sum of money
from the tabloid as a result of his lawsuit.

-- 
Don Dianetti  --  SUNY at Buffalo  --  dianetti@acsu.buffalo.edu
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