From: efstse@epsilon.eecs.nwu.edu
Subject: Re: Check out this Bob. [was Re: Macedonia]
Originator: efstse@epsilon.eecs.nwu.edu
Organization: NU
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 13:50:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.111817.16994@enea.se> sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog) writes:
>>Aha! So there is an ethnicity called "Macedonian", right? Well, surprise,
>>surprise: WRONG.
>
>Of course there is. Since 1944 at least. Denying facts doesn't make
>them disappear.

The guy is a creep! Hey, man, in 50 years you can not even boil and egg
properly! Macedonia is there in Greece for 4,000 years.

>>The only piece of land that has been called Macedonia since
>>2,000+ B.C. is situated inside the Greek borders. Check out a good map
>>(historical if possible).
>
>This person is either grossly misinformed, or a big liar. A good
>place to start is Encyclopedia Italiana from around 1930. Under
>the article of Macedonia you find a map which delineates the modern
>geographical region of Macedonia. You will find that it includes
>virtually all of The Republic of Macedonia, and even a slice of
>present-day Kosovo. Curiously, not all of present-day Greek Macedonia
>is included. To get a understanding of that is not an occasional
>misinformation, you can check with the French "Le Grand Encyclopdie"
>from 1900, which gives no map, but a verbal description which is
>quite consistent with the Italian map. I also recommed trying
>The Times Atlas of History for the Roman province of Macedonia.

The guy is dreaming. The sacred village of Dion for the Ancient Macedons
was located at the foot of mount Olympos. The Romans kept the extend
of Macedonia about the same as it was in Ancient times and it is
the same as today in Northern Greece. When I was in Rome, I was walking
up the street that takes you to the Colossium and on the right hand side
there are three or four maps made by marble showing the growth of the
Roman empire. There you will see clearly what the Romans called Macedonia.
Almost exaclty the same region as today's Macedonia, Greece.

>People are complaining about Macedonian propaganda, but unfortunately
>the Greek propaganda is not an inch better. Rather the opposite.

Yeah, right!

>>Greece is not supporting Servia and to
>>prove this it has prohibited the exportation of goods and petrol to ALL its
>>northern neighboring countries (Albania, X-Yugoslavia, Bulgaria) in order to
>
>Is this really true? Are exports to Bulgaria from Greece not permitted?
>As this person seems to nothingu what he is talking about, I assume
>this is completely false.

It was announced last week by the Greek governement. BTW, I like you
logic Erland, real... Skopje-like... Where do you come from, babe?

>>Croats are Catholics, Serbs are Orthodox, and Muslims are simply fanatics).
>
>So the Serbs who shells Vukovar, Sarajevo etc into piece are not
>fanatics? The Serbs who insists of controlling the Albanians in
>Kosovo are not fanatics? And people like you who spread lies and
>propganda for the sake of a name are not fanatics?

It looks that Serbs are quite determined not to give up their land
but they do not KILL THEIR OWN PEOPLE in order to create bad images
for the opposite side. ONLY FANATICS WOULD GO THAT FAR, like the
Muslims of B.-H. Have you read the report by the English members of UN?
You'll freak my friend.

>-- 
>Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
>F|rst till kvarn f}r f|rst vankiva

Max.
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