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From: Richard J. Gaylord <gaylord@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: wildfeed schedule
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i've been expecting this group to keep a wildfeed schedule for the fall
season but so far have only seen a couple of shows mentioned.

orbit and sat tv week are pretty much useless (at least so far this
season) for this info.

is anyone keeping the wild feed list and could it be posted periodically?

if not, people can send me their wildfeed info. and i will maintain the
list and post it once a week. 

my own contribution so far is that  "Siskel & Ebert on Thurs. 4:30-5 pm
CT has moved from T1-23 to T1-17 recently.  i also caught something on
A1-12 but i forget what right now (that's sure a big help).
From: charles@netcom.netcom.com (Charles R. Hoynowski)
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Subject: Re: FREE Usenet via satellite to continue
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:11:12 GMT
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Organization: Gizmonic Institute, SOL Division

In article <OUFle-IC/@lopez.marquette.MI.US> flash@lopez.marquette.MI.US (Gary Bourgois,Hamshack) writes:


   In any case, all you need to receive the transmissions is a simple cable to
   run the audio from your satellite system (preferably the earphone jack of
   your stereo) to your computer modem.  You probably have the making of this
   cable laying around.  If you have not yet tried receiving the data, either


I'm a tad bit confused about how one goes about interfacing their modem
to their satellite receiver.  Could you post detailed instructions?

thanks.


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From: jhansen@convex.com (James Hansen)
Subject: Re: If you're thinking of getting a dish
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:40:36 GMT
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              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Oct1.174516.26718@mr.med.ge.com> larry@ducktales.med.ge.com (Larry Landwehr) writes:

>One of the biggest mental blocks I had before getting my dish was the
>fact that satellite reception is line-of-sight. I had this mental
>picture that the satellites were located in an arc of the sky that went
>from horizon to horizon. I thought that one had to be able to see the
>sky along this arc right up to where it hit the ground. As it turned
>out, all the satellites are located well up from the horizon.

Depends on your location.  F1 is almost flat to the horizon for me.

>You only
>have to be able to see the middle/upper third of this arc. Trees and
>buildings aren't anywhere near the obstacles that you may think they
>are.

Also depends on your location.  Someone's view of the arc from say,
Brownsville, Texas, is quite different from someone in Portland, Maine
or Seattle, Washington.

>Also, this arc is located in the southern part of the sky, but it
>is well up in the sky. Too bad someone couldn't design a paper model
>with this arc on it so prospective owners could get a feel for where
>the arc is. It was a big stumbling block for me. How about a paper model
>that you could take out at night and orient it with a couple of stars?

Satellites are in geo-synchronous orbit.  The sky is constantly changing
due to the earth's rotation, orbit, and inclination.  It'd be kind of
difficult to match a model up to any given star or planet.

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From: gamebird@fluke.tc.fluke.com (Duane Smith)
Subject: Mike Ditka Show feed
Keywords: Anyone know where to find it?
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:58:16 GMT


I'm looking for the wild feed for "The Mike Ditka Show". Last football season
it was on T1 transponder 19 or 20 around 5am pacific time on Thursdays. The
show is taped on wednesday nights in chicago. Has anyone seen it this season,
please let me know where to find it if you have seen it.


                                 Thanks, Duane Smith
  



 


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From: jhansen@convex.com (James Hansen)
Subject: Northern Exposure
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:43:11 GMT
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Did anyone locate Northern Exposure this past weekend?  The season premiere
was aired last night (Monday) so I assumed Universal must have uplinked
NX this past weekend.  It was on Telstar 301 last season on Saturday morning
at 10:00am Eastern (I don't remember which transponder).

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From: eire@bluemoon.rn.com (Chris Clinton)
Subject: Re:      BBC 9PM News
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 08:42:10 EDT

        "(Mike Gingell)" <aurs01!aurw6b!gingell@CONCERT.NET> writes:

> No sooner had I posted something on the net about where I saw the BBC 9PM
> news than they moved again.  They were on SBS-6 Ku channel 8 (on my Sierra)
> Mon-Weds but yesterday they were on G6-19 C band.  All in 625 line PAL.
> 

And on Monday 5th October this was on G2 transponder 23


Rgds     .......Chris
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Date:         Sat, 3 Oct 1992 22:19:00 SLT
From:         F60C038@SAKSU00.BITNET

Subject: Receiveable programming from here

      I am located in the City of Riyadh in Saudi Arabia, an I would like
  to know what channels I will be to receive and on which satellite, or
  better yet, what satellites will I be able to say from here .

      I am particulary interested in receiving ITN (Independent Television
  News) and WorldNet .

  P.S. KINDLY PLEASE REPLY DIRECTLY TO ME, AS I AM NOT ON THIS LIST .

  F60C038@SAKSU00.BITNET
From: Power@cup.portal.com (Ron A Uitz)
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Subject: Galaxy 1, Tr. 18
Date: Sat,  3 Oct 92 09:43:39 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Does anyone know what service is using Galaxy 1, Tr. 18 (it appears
to be B-MAC encrypted)?
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Subject: Vision TV gone from E1 C Band
From: flash@lopez.marquette.MI.US (Gary Bourgois,Hamshack)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 16:03:33 EDT
Organization: Great White North/UPLink


Tracker Bob was right.  They are gone.  And right after we got the schedule
posted too...  Sure is sad to see so little activity on E1, which here is
much stronger than E2 (Must be that infernal tree situation).
Those with KU can still see it if they live in an area of the country with
good KU penetration from E2.  I would be in an ideal spot, were it not for
the foliage.  

It was very nice to see NORTHERN EXPOSURE this morning (sunday) especially
since I get transponder 13 better than 24 on T1, though 4AM is a bit early,
and I have been paying for it all day.  Will be nice when I get the Drake,
and can use IT to record wild feeds.  




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From: as029@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Victor M. Rosario)
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Subject: HELP!!! NHK Tokyo Programming needed!
Date: 6 Oct 1992 16:28:54 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I need to know where I can find info about the schedule programs of
NHK Tokyo(F2-22 or 23,depeding on the area and aligment) I want to watch
specifically Japanese animation on my sat...please e-mail me.

Thanks!
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From: jmcbride@ccvax.ucd.ie
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Subject: Re: If you're thinking of getting a dish
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:49:41 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

In article <9210021453.aa01323@crdec7.apgea.army.mil>, wejones@CRDEC7.APGEA.ARMY.MIL (Bill Jones) writes:
>>
>> >Trees and buildings aren't anywhere near the obstacles that you may think
>  they
>> > are.
>>
>> This is true as long as they are not in your line of sight.
> 
> I don't know about buildings, but with respect to trees, I'd have to agree
> with the first poster.  I am receiving 2 or 3 sats directly through
> a big mature black cherry tree that grew taller after I installed my system,
> and have observed very little degradation.

To which I can only offer my sincerest congrats.  My father had an Astra
system installed last November, and over the Xmas period I enjoyed Star Trek
in German, among other pleasures offered by the system.  By Easter, however,
the thick foilage which was taking its winter break at installation time was
back in spades.  Result?  A barely visible reception, made all the more 
frustrating by CNN International coming on to Astra at around about the same
as picture deterioration setting in.  
Sadly, neither I or my father have the least experience in installation,
otherwise we would have moved the dish to a more amenable position, instead
we have to wait for an engineer of the long fingered type....



james p mc bride 
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From:         "(Wolfgang R. Schulz)" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Subject:      Re: Intelsat K in North America
              Oct 5, 92 1:31 pm

VM1.NoDak.EDU!HOMESAT writes:
> On Sunday 10/4 evening 6PM EST I came across DW on the USIA S2/3. Just like
> the USA network and the Sci Fi channel, Deutsche Welle puts on an annoying
> little logo in the upper lefthand corner of the screen. It's a worldwide
> problem and something's got to be done about it :).
>
I wonder what you could do about it. 99% of all TV has it in Europe.
Reason is not only easy identification, als copyright protection.
(There ARE, believe it or not, people who STEAL TV programs and rebroadcast
them...). At least if you've got to deal with programs from the old
continent, you better get used to it.
Wolfgang


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From: hughes@gary.enet.dec.com (Gary Hughes - VMS Development)
Subject: Re: some notes
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:44:42 GMT


In article <n9+p1-n@lynx.unm.edu>, roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers) writes...
>The Checkout Channel is dual-illuminated again.  Instead of being
>just on Spacenet 1 (KU)/24, it is also found on GSTAR-4/3 (remember,
>GSTAR-4 is now in the orbital slot of what used to be GSTAR-2).  If
>my hypothesis is correct, then the Airport Channel will move back
>onto GSTAR-4 in the next few days.  

As you observed Gstar 2 and 4 have exchanged orbital slots. Gstar 4's design
life takes it into the next century, and GTE will be moving various services
onto that satellite. The process is supposed to complete by Oct 10 so there
could be some more shuffling before then

gary
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From:         "(Duane Smith)" <gamebird@FLUKE.TC.FLUKE.COM>
Subject:      Mike Ditka Show feed

I'm looking for the wild feed for "The Mike Ditka Show". Last football season
it was on T1 transponder 19 or 20 around 5am pacific time on Thursdays. The
show is taped on wednesday nights in chicago. Has anyone seen it this season,
please let me know where to find it if you have seen it.


                                 Thanks, Duane Smith
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From: hstarke@europa.asd.contel.com (Hal Starke)
Subject: Where was Monday Nite Football or is ABC Screwing Around
Reply-To: hstarke@europa.asd.contel.com (Hal Starke)
Organization: GTE Federal Systems Division
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:01:34 GMT

I tried to find the Dallas Eagles game last night, but gave up because I 
wanted to see the game, so I watched it on regular TV which has fussy picture.

Last time I looked ABC had a open feed on T1, but not so last night. I also 
looked on B4, B6 and T2. Where was it? I thought all NFL feeds were suppose 
to be in the clear. Whats the real story behind this or is it just a case of 
cat and mouse?

Hal
From: rolfe@w3vh.UUCP (Rolfe Tessem)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re:      Re: New System Selection
Distribution: world
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 92 22:21:20 GMT
Organization: Lucky Duck Productions

flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US writes in article <9209291148.AA24068@lopez.marquette.MI.US>:
> 
> The drake 1524 is the receiver to have.
> 
> You also will WANT stereo subcarrier tuning, trust me.
> 
>

How does it do in the TI department -- I'm considering one for use
in Manhattan?
 
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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: Re: wildfeed schedule
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 16:08:46 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <BvowCB.L5G@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Richard J. Gaylord <gaylord@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> writes:

>is anyone keeping the wild feed list and could it be posted periodically?

I am keeping a list (trying to keep it as accurate as I can).  I meant
to post it a few days ago, but I have added so many new feeds that
I am trying to work on verification of them (I am the type who
would rather verify a feed rather than sloppily put it in a list).

Robert
roberts@triton.unm.edu


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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 08:18:00 EST
From:         "Joe Slater x7534" <SASJZS@VMS.SAS.COM>
Subject:      SENATE TRIES TO OVERRIDE CABLE BILL VETO TODAY!

Call, don't write, your senators' offices today. You can usually find their
phone numbers in the phone book.

Joe Slater
Mine opinion is just that.
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:27:03 EDT
From:         "(Gary Bourgois)" <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: Fire by Night?

>Can anyone tell me when and where I can find the program, Fire by Night?  It
>is a Christian variety show which has skits and videos.  I am also
>trying to find channels which show Christian Music videos.  If anyone can
>help me out I would be very appreciative.  Thanks in advance.

I have seen fire by night on a number of different places on G6.  Also there
is a daily Christian Music program called LIGHT MUSIC on CORNERSTONE TV on
S2/21.

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From: lesnyd@monsanto.com (Larry E. Snyder)
Subject: Re: vert roll problem/Serria II
Organization: DSC
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:08:06 GMT

Sorry to post this to the net, but my mailer couldn't send it...

In article <1992Oct6.142755.3251@ryn.mro4.dec.com>, klimasewski@fccvde.enet.dec.com (My name is...) writes:
> 
> 
> I have a vertical jitter which sometimes goes into a vertical roll
> on a Sierra II receiver. The mfg (Chapperal) suggested that I change
> ALL of the coupling capacitors from the output of the detector IC to
> the rf/modulator.
> Has anyone had this problem and could pass along their fix?
> I have a diagram of the area in question and cannot find IC 110 (sync)
> on the board. Does anyone have the service manual that could give me a
> clue where IC 110 is? My diagram is a fax from Chapperal thats hard to
> read.
>                                               thanks,
>                                                     Ken
> 
I had this EXACT same symptom on my Echostar SRD4000 IRD. I paid a place a
ridiculous amount of money to fix it - it was a dry capacitor. The advice
given to you by Chapparal is exactly right, at least it would have solved
MY problem. Try it first - it's cheap, and it can't hurt!

Larry
From: watson@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (laura.k.watson)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: please send FAQ
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:45:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsl.1992Oct5.154527.22999
Organization: AT&T

Hey!  This is great!  I just found this newsgroup when I killed my 
.newsrc and let rn create me a new one!  Please send me the FAQ so I 
won't ask a bunch of stupid questions.  I have fallen hopelessly 
out of date on the state of the art of equipment, scrambling, etc.

I have a old(?) Chapparal Sierra III receiver and Uniden dish.  
The descrambler on the thing seems to have gone defunct, though, 
so I don't get any scrambled channels these days.  We watch S4 a 
lot.  Isn't there some sort of new descrambler out these days?  
(Don't answer that if it's in the FAQ!)

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Date:         Sun, 4 Oct 1992 11:05:06 CST
From:         ST9530@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU
Subject:      Picture wavering

Using a GI 2770R IRD, chapparal corotor II+, CALAMP 25deg C, .7DB Gardiner
KU, 8 1/2 foot solid aluminum dish, 185 feet all in one dual coax ribbon
Cable, buried in 1 1/4" PVC.  LOcated in Southern Illinois.  A probe
problem has been noticed, which is a wavering (sort of) in black backgrounds
on clear channels.  It appears to be a wavering of the horizontal picture
lines, although we get sparklies on only about 3-4% of the total channels.
We have a VCII, and it appears on those channels also.  It shows up even
on Galaxy 5, and G1.  It doesnt make the picuture unwatchable, but I would like
to hear from omeone who has seen this probelm, and can offer suggestions, as
we get a nice bright clear picture, e(no sparklies), but this is rather
annoyinh.  It is more prominent on darker backgrounds.

Thanks in advance!
ST9530@SIUCVMB.EDU
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From: hughes@gary.enet.dec.com (Gary Hughes - VMS Development)
Subject: Re:      Re: Usenet News via Satellite
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:13:18 GMT


In article <9209291138.AA23943@lopez.marquette.MI.US>,         "(Gary Bourgois)" <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US> writes...
>It is all a mat It is all in how you structure the system.  People
>keep telling me that Stargate failed.  How were they organized?  That would
>be my first question.  Who did they get their time/space from would be
>another questions.  ANY agreement I enter into will be for a long term haul.

Stargate used space in the VBI of (then) WTBS' video signal. It was inserted by
a computer at their uplink site.

I don't think it is entirely fair to say that it failed, as it was really a
'technology demo' to show that it was possible to transmit Usenet in this
fashion and to find out what problems there may be. There was no guarantee
that it would become a production system.

FWIW, they were using a high speed, encoded format for the data. It may have
been a proprietary format. WTBS was using the same format for other data I
believe.

gary
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Subject: NEXP Wild Feed FOUND!
From: flash@lopez.marquette.MI.US (Gary Bourgois,Hamshack)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 03:05:49 EDT
Organization: Great White North/UPLink

It pays to be a night owl...

Northern Exposure feed from COMPACT VIDEO:

Telstar 301 channel 13 at  0400 SUNDAY MORNING.

Be there or be square.

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From: rwb@alexander.VI.RI.CMU.EDU (Robert Berger)
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Subject: Re: South Scanner Satellite Services Chart vol 1 num 7 (LONG) 1/4
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:18:55 GMT
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In article <ANDRE.92Oct5155529@king.slc.mentorg.com>  
andre@king.slc.mentorg.com (Andre' Hut) writes:
> 
> The listing for the Sci Fi Channel (G5-4) seems to be in error.  It  
states
> that the freq. for the stereo audio is 5.58/5.80.  Having tried that a  
few
> hours ago, I found that 5.58/5.78 works a little better.  

I've noticed that the stereo subcarriers to be MUCH noiser than the
6.8 mono. I've tried narrow and wideband, with and without DNR.

Has anyone else noticed this?
From: adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP (Adam Mottershead)
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Subject: Lower Degree LNBs
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 19:39:12 EDT
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This is probably one for the FAQ list, if it isn't there already.

Right now I am using a 10 foot mesh dish with a 45 degree NorSat LNB.  From
my DIY mount adjustment, I get very good pictures on all birds.  The
pictures are not totally sparklie-free but close to it.
 
Now if I was to upgrade to a 25 degree LNB, or the 'Super Ice' if it
really does live up to it's 19-21 degree claim, will it make that much of
a difference?

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