From: frankli@seq.uncwil.edu (william carter franklin)
Subject: DON'T BE SO DAMN SELFISH    PART I
Summary: WHAAAA
Keywords: SELFISH BABIES
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Distribution: global
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:16:17 GMT

This is a grab bag of recent quotes from the group over my excellent
postings. Along with these, of course, are my generous and loving 
replies. Have a nice day.




>Look, I could give several shits about some damn statistics.  I don't care
>what color I am, and I haven't stressed this enough, so here I go again: If
>you want my money, you best treat me just like you would anyone else, es-
>pecially those who aren't minorities."


The statistics were reluctantly provided to show you WHY many store
owners are apprehensive when certain people come into their stores.
Remember, their stores are their living. Be understanding. Not ALL
Black people are treated badly when they go in department stores.



$On Dawson street here in Wilmington a white person can not even ride
$by in a car because the "I'm hangin' on the street corner with my
$friends crowd" likes to throw bottles at people's cars who are not
$the same colour as they are. (The last lady has had to have plastic
$surgery, all because she is white and had to pass through Dawson St.).



>Whose fault is that?  I can't even walk around in a rich suburb without
>being followed/questioned by the police, Silly Boy Willy. "



Be specific, please. Identification of the neighborhood is a good
starter. Also specific dates that you were questioned. (Perhaps
a Black Male had just robbed one of the houses and the police were
investigating the crime). The same, of course goes for white males
who are questioned for crimes that they are innocent of too, and that
happens JUST as often!



>"...I can't remember each and every single incident..."

You haven't remembered ANY incidents that support your claim that stated
racial innuendo and mistreatment are not fig trees (of your imagination)
Especially the times you say you are "treated rudely by customer service
personnel". Concrete examples or no stereotype. I still hear that 
clicking in the background. (Could that be a STEREOTYPEWRITER?)



And what ABOUT the truck driver who was dragged from his cab and beaten
nearly to death because he was WHITE in Los Angeles? Good thing that
Black minister stopped his racist bigoted Bruthas from killing that
poor man (who was NOT on the jury).


>" $>4. White people will walk across the street to avoid me. "



No wonder some of them are afraid.

Look, I am just trying to open the eyes of the many Black people who 
are objective enough to see BOTH sides of this. Racism is an ugly coin
with two sides.


>Do you know how many black people cops like Rodney King's assailants kill
>each year?  If your so called "white savior" hadn't taped that incident
>you would be as in the dark about what goes on in Los Angeles as well as
>other inner cities in Amerikkka as a foreign tourist, Silly Boy Willy."


Do you know? Because I was going to ACTUALLY POST the drunk driver 
statistics for you guys. But after reading them all of you may 
shock the world and say that Rodney King NEEDS a good beating.


And give me examples of how the media stereotypes Black people, and
I will wager that a white person has been stereotyped in a similar
fashion contemporarily. Marion Barry is a crackhead. The media has
nothing to do with that. However, I have become heavily disgruntled
at George Bush because of media coverage of his foreign spending...
(Iraqgate, etc..) the media does a paint job on everybody. (I hope
they paint away on George, though).



>Remember that Prime Time special where they compared the ethics of a 
>car dealer with a black customer and with a white customer?
>The white customer was quoted a substantially lower price on a 
>car than was the black customer.

For someone who thinks that the media might be poison, or that
is promotes stereotypes, you sure seem to trust it when it supports
YOUR conceptions of reality. (Same for FBI story about the footprint,
although I'll wager the media needs to do more investigation of that
and expose every party involved.... where did you read that story?
I could not decipher from the post.)


< " 'The Boston FBI office said no one was available to discuss the case


strange coincidence


< "    ``Obviously it was a racial incident,'' the source said. ``They
<wouldn't have done it to a white person.''


the source said (who was the source and how reliable?)


<       The agent told lawyer Walter Prince that the footprint, taken ab
<out a month ago, was ``standard procedure,'' then joked about the stunt
<when he hung the print, the Boston Herald quoted sources as saying.


Sounds like too much hearsay to get ALL THAT HYPED UP about.
However, even if the sources were all a hundred percent,
I would rather have my footprint taken than be dragged from my
truck and beaten to (nearly) death. Both sides of the coin are ugly.



At Williston Junior High School, Then Principal Arthalia
Williams handled a situation in a racist manner.
A young black student pushed a young white student who was walking
in the hall. He then said "You aint gonna do nothing about it because
I am Black, and Mrs. Williams will take up for me." The young white
man then pushed the other boy off of him and an fight ensued. Mrs.
Williams suspended the white student and let the black student go
back to class. She should have just gotten the white boy's footprint.


<If you must know, the boy had a gun, but he was running


You make police work sound so easy. Bet you have a copy of "Cop Killer".
And Sistah's Greatest Hits (Isn't that just a blank c.d. used to clean
your c.d. player?)


<Man you're really lame, Silly Boy Willy.  I've never seen anybody claim that
<he's trying to help fight racism and then come on here spouting this mess.
<With your help I say we'll all be back in PHYSICAL slavery (because my silly
<fool there is more than one type of slavery) within 20 years.


Facts is Facts, my man, alot of Blacks are slaves to their own violent,
drug-ridden lifestyles, as are alot of whites. But it's not gonna
get us anywhere blaming EACH OTHER for our OWN PERSONAL FAILURES!




$>  Yes I am frustrated.  Frustrated

Just don't get violent, because that is the worst way to ventilate
frustration, and also, violence is a way that many Blacks have
perpetuated the stereotypes and perpetuated the mistrust between
the diversities. What percentage of Black youths in grade school
carry guns? Rediculous. They used to carry books, but progress
has halted. Hope you see my point: that education, not violence
and BLAMING OTHERS , will be the key to individual successes.
And the parents who leave their children (statistically mostly
the male parent) and the parents who are violent drug users
are only perpetuating the lack of education that their children
are getting. You just can't blame white racism for individual
failure and lack of personal responsibility.



<Get an education, Silly Boy Willy.  No I ain't talkin about books I'm talkin
<about STREET KNOWLEDGE.  THEN we'll talk.


If "Street Knowledge" is knowing how to bring a gun to school, or
knowing how to burn a whole city and blame white people for it,
or knowing how to throw bottles into passing cars, disfiguring
passing motorists, then I will just stick to college: where
Black people graduate into jobs able to compete in the real
world, unlike those that graduate from street school with a degree
in violence.

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