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From: jessea@u013.me.vp.com (Jesse W. Asher)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Different Subnets on one Ethernet segment?
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:24:13 GMT
Organization: Varco-Pruden Buildings

In article <1992Dec8.091111.28843@penet.fi>, an1880@anon.penet.fi wrote the following:
>
>Hi,
>
>can anybody tell me, if I can have TWO different IP-subnets in ONE ethernet
>segment???
>
>Just for illustration:
>net: 141.33.0.0
>subnet1: 141.33.128.0
>subnet2: 141.33.160.0
>
>netmask: 255.255.224.0
>
>If it is possible, how do I have to set the broadcast address?

We've done this here with no problem.  The only thing we did was put tow
ethernet cards in one machine and had it act as a gateway between the
two networks.  This is very workable as long as you don't have an
immense amount of traffic between the two networks - the gateway could
become a bottleneck.

BTW, I think you really ought to trim down your .sig file.  It's a
little on the large side.


-- 
      Jesse W. Asher                                          (901)762-6000
                             Varco-Pruden Buildings
                 6000 Poplar Ave., Suite 400, Memphis, TN  38119
    Internet: jessea@vpbuild.vp.com                   UUCP: vpbuild!jessea
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: using 25 pin cable for twisted pair kosher?
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 05:16:30 GMT
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology

In article <tommy.724218064@hilbert> tommy@hilbert.att.com (Tom Reingold) writes:
>I recently had to hook up some Sun Sparcstation 10's and they come with
>twisted pair ethernet.  No problem, I already have a multi-port twisted
>pair transceiver, or whatever they're called.  The offices already have
>some serial cables running into them so I thought I would save some
>money and trouble and use them for ethernet.  Is this likely to work
>well?  ...

The first question to ask for 10BaseT (twisted-pair) Ethernet is "are the
wires *twisted* in *pairs*?".  The rule for 10BaseT is "no untwisted wiring,
however short".

I doubt very much that your serial cables are twisted-pair, although they
might be.

>... My preliminary test shows that it works...

I'm surprised.  In fact, I'm amazed, if these cables are any significant
length.
-- 
"God willing... we shall return."       | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
       -Gene Cernan, the Moon, Dec 1972 |  henry@zoo.toronto.edu  utzoo!henry
From: lowen@lorc.eskimo.com (Lamar Owen)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: Re: using 25 pin cable for twisted pair kosher?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 10:54:05 -0500
Organization: LORC Enterprises

In <Bz6MnK.G6s@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
>In article <tommy.724218064@hilbert> tommy@hilbert.att.com (Tom Reingold) writes:
 The offices already have
>>some serial cables running into them so I thought I would save some
>>money and trouble and use them for ethernet.  Is this likely to work
>>well?  ...

>The first question to ask for 10BaseT (twisted-pair) Ethernet is "are the
>wires *twisted* in *pairs*?".  The rule for 10BaseT is "no untwisted wiring,
>however short".

>I doubt very much that your serial cables are twisted-pair, although they
>might be.

Most high-grade serial cabling is indeed twisted pair--at least in my experience.
If the wiring goes through No. 66 punchblocks and appears to be telephone
cabling, it is twisted as well--although it may not meet the specs.

My experience with high-grade serial cabling is that most is twisted rather tight.

>>... My preliminary test shows that it works...

>I'm surprised.  In fact, I'm amazed, if these cables are any significant
>length.

I'm not.  I'm an EE-turned-computer-freak person.  Thus, I am familiar with what
VSWR on improper-impedance wiring can do.  At the power levels and wide frequency
range employed in 10base-T, I would forsee very little problem with wiring that
is up to half of spec length, even if the wiring varies wildly from the spec.



-- 

Lamar Owen, Systems Consultant          | If there were a tax on syn,
GE Lighting Systems, Hendersonville, NC | we'd all be broke.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
My opinions are not those of GE and do not reflect GE policy in any way.
From: hr@nw-didaktik.uni-kiel.dbp.de ()
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: Intel EtherExpress16 and TCP/IP
Date: 15 Dec 1992 13:30:20 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Kiel, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: yoda.cul-ipn.uni-kiel.de

We have an Intel EtherExpress 16-card in
our PC and want to connect to TCP/IP with
NCSA-Telnet.
With several PacketDrivers we have no success.
So my questions:

    1.) Is anyone using the IntelEtherExpress16 
        with TCP/IP and how ?
        For example with a packetDriver or so.
    
    2.) Is anyone using NCSA with option 'hardware = packet'
        and what other options must then be included
        in config.tel
        
        Thank you for your help,
        Heiko
From: swisher@cs.utexas.edu (Janet M. Swisher)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: PC-NFS?
Date: 15 Dec 1992 12:05:15 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: boogie.cs.utexas.edu

Could someone give me pointers on where to find information on PC-NFS
(including a more appropriate newsgroup, if there is one)?

	Thanks,
	Janet


-- 
Don't take life so serious ... it ain't *no how* permanent. -- Porkypine. 
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: seifert@netcom.com (Rich Seifert)
Subject: Re: Ethernet-Token Ring Bridges
Organization: Networks & Communications Consulting
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:58:20 GMT

In article <BzDA0o.FJn@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, dave@ubitrex.mb.ca (Dave Paradis) writes:
> 
> Can anyone tell me which companies make
> Ethernet/802.3 to Token-ring bridges?
> 

Off the top of my head:

Ungermann-Bass, 3 Com, cisco, Wellfleet, Network Systems/Vitalink, 
CrossComm, RAD, and of course IBM.

The exact functionality is determined by software. Some can be transparent
bridges (on both sides), some 8209-like (SR-TB), some SRT. Some can
do multiple service.

I am sure others will add to the list.

-- 
Rich Seifert                    Networks and Communications Consulting
seifert@netcom.com              (408) 996-0922
                                (408) 996-2860 FAX
"... specialists in Local Area Networks and Data Communications systems"
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: smb@pern.cc.purdue.edu (Scott M. Ballew)
Subject: Re: Different Subnets on one Ethernet segment?
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: net
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:47:15 GMT

In article <92346.092154RHUNTER@ESOC.BITNET> <RHUNTER@ESOC.BITNET> writes:
> ...
>I would refer you to RFC1027, which introduces this scheme as a STANDARD.

Just because something appears in an RFC does not make it a "standard".
An RFC is, as the name says, a "Request for Comments".  From RFC 1280
(IAB Official Protocol Standards):

      All standards are published as RFCs, but not all RFCs specify
      standards.

and:

   The RFC series comprises a wide range of documents, ranging from
   informational documents of general interests to specifications of
   standard Internet protocols.
 
In the case of RFC 1027, it does not clearly state it, but it implies
that it is of the informational flavor.  RFC 1280 would seem to
confirm this (it is not listed as a standards track RFC).  

Scott
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: orion@phobos.unm.edu (Tim Guerrette)
Subject: Networking Book List wanted
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 19:10:48 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

I am looking for a list of LAN and Communications books, does anyone know where I can get one?

Please respond to me directly.

Thanks,

===============================================================================
Timothy Guerrette	    		Internet: orion@polaris.unm.edu
University of New Mexico
Albuquerque, NM
    "Yesterday is history, tomorrow is vision, today is just a bitch!"
===============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu (Matt Healy)
Subject: Re: how to get ethernet host name
Followup-To: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Organization: Yale University--Genetics
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:41:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.175658.19910@sci34hub.sci.com>, gary@sci34hub.sci.com
(Gary Heston) wrote:
> 
> In article <Bz4MLp.1L1@newsserver.technet.sg> dbsbanka@solomon.technet.sg (Teo Pit Koon) writes:
> >We have a problem: How do we get an ethernet server's host name from a 
> >workstation on the LAN.
> 

Ethernet itself does not define any "names"; it only cares
about NUMBERS and those are permanently burned-in to the
hardware.  If it is the Ethernet number you need, look
for a sticker somewhere on your Ethernet transceiver with
something like 2:7:1:a:b4:89 (the Ethernet number of the
computer I happen to be using right now).

Since you are talking about _names_, though, you are probably
interested in finding out the name assigned by some higher-level
protocol such as IP, Appletalk, Netware, DECnet, or something.
All of these and others define logical names and addresses, and
can run over Ethernet cabling (all of them are running on ours
right now...), but are *not* Ethernet specific--they also run
over different types of cabling, just as any telephone circuit
can carry conversations in English, Spanish, Cantonese, Bulgarian,
etc.

Your question therefore should be directed to the newsgroup
for whichever higher-level protocol you are using.  Asking
about this in an Ethernet forum is rather like asking a
telephone engineer to interpret what a Bulgarian operator
is saying to you-- your problem is not with the phone lines,
but with the Bulgarian language.

Matt Healy
"I pretend to be a network administrator; the lab
 net pretends to work!"

matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: vhalkka@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Vesa Halkka)
Subject: Re: using 25 pin cable for twisted pair kosher?
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 23:12:40 GMT

In <dE1LrARIBh107h@lorc.eskimo.com> lowen@lorc.eskimo.com (Lamar Owen) writes:

>I'm not.  I'm an EE-turned-computer-freak person.  Thus, I am familiar with what
>VSWR on improper-impedance wiring can do.  At the power levels and wide frequency
>range employed in 10base-T, I would forsee very little problem with wiring that
>is up to half of spec length, even if the wiring varies wildly from the spec.

10BaseT seems to be very forgiving.. we have an istallation between 2
buildings in a botanic garden where they don't like us to dig
between tree roots.

The distance is about 80 meters, 20m from the spec maximum. There
wire is a 24 pair unshielded brand xyz cable, which is installed
for a fire alarm/central heating controls.

The original installation was full of mistakes: there was a 3-8 Volt
common mode 50Hz voltage and about 3 Volts of differential 50Hz in 
a pair, because the pair had only one wire connected.

The line was slow, but not completely dead, packets got through
when the 50Hz was near crossing zero voltage!!

When the loose wire was connected, and some other adjustments were 
made, we had about no differential 50Hz (about 300mV is allowed by
the spec), and we had about 2V peak to peak common mode 50Hz on
the line ( spec allows 4 Volts, i think)

And the line works just fine now.

Probably crosstalk is the worst enemy in 10BaseT, attenuation
and reflections are not so important because there is only one
listener at each pair, something reflecting back disappears
to transmitter termination, and the signal is just attenuated
a little.. the transmitter is 2.5 Volts, and 0.4 Volts
is enough at the other end.

So if you have an unknown cable get some 10BaseT gear and something that
counts errors, and try it !!

might save you $$

--
Vesa Halkka                       -O___/ 
University of Helsinki CC:         (  /   	 vhalkka@helsinki.fi 
Centre for scientific computing:  ~~~~~  	 vhalkka@csc.fi



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From: maf@tabatha.MAE.CWRU.Edu (Mark Fullmer)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Different Subnets on one Ethernet segment?
Date: 12 Dec 1992 20:56:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, USA
Distribution: world
Reply-To: maf+@osu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: tabatha.mae.cwru.edu

In article <2933165243.3.wk04331@psilink.com>, "Chris Martin" <wk04331@psilink.com> writes:
|> In the scenerio of multiple subnets on one physical network in the
|> presence of not-incredibly-intelligent TCP/IP hosts, wouldn't the
|> router generate an ICMP redirect to the sender for hosts on the same
|> cable but different subnet?  If this is the case, then the extra 
|> hop effect isn't all that bad after all.
|> 
|> 	--Chris
|> 	chris@amd.com
|> 	postmaster@amd.com

Nope, you would need something like an MAC address redirect.

'Smart' hosts can be modified to eavesdrop on RIP, installing routes
to the subnets on the same wire. 

--
mark
maf+@osu.edu
 
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: tommy@hilbert.att.com (Tom Reingold)
Subject: using 25 pin cable for twisted pair kosher?
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ, USA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:41:04 GMT

I recently had to hook up some Sun Sparcstation 10's and they come with
twisted pair ethernet.  No problem, I already have a multi-port twisted
pair transceiver, or whatever they're called.  The offices already have
some serial cables running into them so I thought I would save some
money and trouble and use them for ethernet.  Is this likely to work
well?  My preliminary test shows that it works, but I'd like to know if
this is vulnerable to interference or likely to cause it.
-- 
Tom Reingold
AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ
tommy@boole.att.com or att!boole!tommy
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: barrey@Novell.com (Barrey Jewall)
Subject: Re: QUESTION: 10 Base-T vs 10 Base-2
Keywords: LAN
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 06:29:04 GMT

In <1992Dec17.045445.29645@sparc4.ncu.edu.tw> u129008@sparc14.acerstk.uucp 
(Tim Chen) writes:

>I am evaluating a Novell LAN with 10 users and I need to choose between
>10 Base-T and 10 Base-2. As the site will not have a permenent superviosr,
>the network I choose must be easy to maintian with possibilities of remote
>maintance. I don't even know the differencies between the two except 
>their physical appearance. All suggestions are welcomed.

>Please E-amil to me at u129008@sparc20.ncu.edu.tw

E-mail bounced, so here it is:

Tim- I'm not a sales droid, but if you're going to put in a Novell 
server anyway, you could drop in a card comforming to the HMI
Spec. - This is a spec that Novell and a bunch of hardware companies
have come up with that allows the server to be a 10-base-t hub.

There are cards from 4 to 12 port capacity.

Intel, Eagle, National Semi, and a bunch of other companies make these.

I use them quite a bit in our smaller field sales offices.

The ones I use mostly are called "Intel EtherExpress TPE Hub Cards"
They are a 12 port unit. When combined with a 10-Base-T harmonica,
they offer quick and easy RJ-45 connections.

Management software comes with the card, and for remote management,
you just need to dial into a PC, then login to the server and run
Rconsole, Novell's remote console software.

Good luck, and I hope I've helped you.
Barrey

--
+ Barrey Jewall - Network  Admin.++  and yea, though I walk through the shadow 
+ barrey@novell.com	         ++ of death, I shall fear no evil, for I am
+ Novell, Inc.- San Jose, Calif. ++ the meanest sonofabitch in the valley...
From: mike@hprnd.rose.hp.com (Mike Haag)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:12:44 GMT
Subject: 100BaseVG Information
Organization: HP Roseville Networks Division
From: alerman@garnet.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: HUGE SALE: 35 NETWORK CARDS!!!
Date: 13 Dec 1992 02:37:17 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

The following network cards are for sale. I am selling them as one lot i.e.  
I WILL NOT SELL THEM SEPARATELY! They are all guaranteed fully 
functional, but they don't necessarily all come with cables, docs, etc. They
will go to the highest bidder by Thursday, December 17. Your bid does 
not include shipping. I reserve the right to make the highest bid. Reply to 
this post to email your offer. I honesly don't know what these cards are worth,
so I will let the market (your bids) determine a fair price. 

DESCRIPTION				QUANTITY
------------------------------------------------------------------------
LATTISNET 802.3
	WD80003 WT		             	3
	MICOM 600			3
	EXCELAN 205L			1
	WD LATTISNET PC MC	1
	TIARA TP ISA			1
	
ETHERNET COAXIAL
	WD80003E MC			2
	TIARA LANCARD /E MC	1
	3COM ETHERNET		1
	NOVELL NE/2			1
	NE 2000			2
	NE 1000			1
	EVEREX SPEEDLINK ISA	2
	1 WD80003E ISA		1

ARCNET
	SMC PC260 TP			1
	CLONE ARCNET COAXIAL	1
	TIARA ARCNET		5
	SMC F5500			1
	SMC ARCNET MC		1
	SMC PC110			2

OTHER
	NOVELL NL1000		3
	WD STARCARD 		1

--
Alexander Lerman
<alerman@garnet.berkeley.edu>
(510) 848-4888 (voice/voice mail/fax)
From: ada@zip.larc.nasa.gov (Anthony Arviola)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: Best Place to Find Packet Drivers
Date: 14 Dec 92 13:13:02
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: zip.larc.nasa.gov
X-Md4-Signature: f57d16957dee6baaf792f5b78d4cab80

I'm looking for an anonymous ftp site where I can find the latest versions
of the Crwynr Packet Drivers.  I'm looking for the 3c503 and 3c509 in 
particular.

Thank you for your help,
Tony
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: mbeyer@zamboni.NSP-SERVER1 (Mark D Beyer)
Subject: Re: Ethernet card
Reply-To: mbeyer@zamboni.NSP-SERVER1
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:55:56 GMT

> What's wrong with the 3c503?  

I forget the exact model numbers, but I think 3COM has much better
adapters than the 3C503 now.  The 3c503 wasn't particularly fast.
I think there's a 3c507.
--


Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: ccewch@nuscc.nus.sg (Wong Chee Heng)
Subject: Re: Ethernet card 
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 03:50:26 GMT

nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson) writes:
: In article <1992Dec18.014021.24510@fallst> tkevans@eplrx7.es.dupont.com writes:
: 
:    ccewch@nuscc.nus.sg (Wong Chee Heng) writes:
:    
:    >Can anyone suggest a brand of ethernet card with these features:
: 
:    >-have both Rj-45 and BNC connector, or with AUI connector
:    >-auto-sense between these connectors
:    >-Have NDIS drivers for DOS and OS/2 1.x and 2.0
:    >-have 16-bit ISA and/or 32-bit EISA version
:    >-reasonablly well perform, comparable to 3c503
: 
:    What's wrong with the 3c503?  It meets all your spec's
:    above.  Well, it doesn't auto-sense which connector is
:    connected, but it is software settable.  Yes, there is a
:    BNC/Twisted Pair model, and it's a 16-bitter.
: 
: The 11.x 3c503 packet driver will auto-sense.
: 
: -russ <nelson@crynwr.com> What canst *thou* say?
: Crynwr Software           Crynwr Software sells packet driver support.
: 11 Grant St.              315-268-1925 Voice  |  LPF member - ask me about
: Potsdam, NY 13676         315-268-9201 FAX    |  the harm software patents do.

The idea card is to have both the BNC and RJ-45 in one card not diff. model.
and able to autosense. Also I heard that 3C503-16 is not a true 16-bit card
due to the backward compatibility of the drivers supplied by 3COM (?), so one
do not get the kind of performance gain expected. 

--
Wong Chee Heng
Systems Programmer
ccewch@nuscc.nus.sg.
From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: TDR error 
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 16:59:04 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <1992Dec16.025945.25165@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> pwb@newt.phys.unsw.edu.au writes:

   In article <1gjra3INNosf@huon.itd.adelaide.edu.au>,    george@ache.mad.adelaide.edu.au (George Travan) writes:
   > 
   > I have just put a PC on a thin wire ethernet network. It has a
   > NI5210 card with packet drivers. When the pc boots I get the
   > following:
   > 
   > TDR:0 Clocks away is a short (not completely reliable)
   > 
   > When the boot finishes, I can telnet Ok and their seem be little or no
   > errors (reflections/retransmissions) on the server.
   > 
   > Anyone know what this may be due to??

   The message is supposed to be interpreted as "I _think_ 0 clocks away is
   a short, but I'm not sure", not that the cardd is not reliable. I think
   these messages were in early versions of the packet drivers, and the
   author took them out because of queries such as yours.

Yup.  The problem is that, when doing a TDR on a live cable, you
might get someone else's packet colliding with yours.  So to get an
accurate test, the TDR should be run multiple times, averaging out
the errors.

But it's a pretty useless test anyway, so why bother?

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com> What canst *thou* say?
Crynwr Software           Crynwr Software sells packet driver support.
11 Grant St.              315-268-1925 Voice  |  LPF member - ask me about
Potsdam, NY 13676         315-268-9201 FAX    |  the harm software patents do.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans,comp.dcom.lans.misc
From: gdridle@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Guy D. Ridley)
Subject:  Datacom packages that handle U-B's 3-session hold?
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:48:16 GMT
Followup-To: comp.dcom.lans


Is there a package that takes advantage of the 3-session hold feature
on our Ungerman-Bass LAN?  I'd like something like Procomm Plus for
Windows, but with 3 separate windows that can each have a session (with
one active, & two on hold)
 
Any ideas would be welcome.  
 
Guy Ridley
pacbell!pbhya!gdridle
From: seifert@netcom.com (Rich Seifert)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Re: LOCALTALK & ARCNET INFORMATION REQUESTED
Keywords: ARCNET LOCALTALK
Date: 13 Dec 92 23:39:07 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Networks & Communications Consulting

In article <Bz7DBu.19H@iron.hq.aflc.af.mil>, fenton@iron.hq.aflc.af.mil (George I. Fenton) writes:
> 
> 2.  WHAT IS THE PRINCIPAL ORGANIZATION THAT SUPPORTS LOCALTALK?  IS THE
>     SAME AS APPLETALK?
> 
> 3.  WHAT ARE THE CHARACTERISTICS OF AND MAJOR SERVICES PROVIDED BY LOCALTALK?
> 
> 4.  WHAT ARE THE FRAME FORMAT AND FIELD FUNCTIONS OF A LOCALTALK FRAME?
> 

LocalTalk is a low-cost LAN technology, built into every Macintosh 
computer. It is fully described in "Inside AppleTalk", by Sidhu, et. al.,
available from Apple Computer (at at most computer bookstores).

Localtalk is a datalink and physical layer technology. It is part of the
AppleTalk architectural family of protocols.



-- 
Rich Seifert                    Networks and Communications Consulting
seifert@netcom.com              (408) 996-0922
                                (408) 996-2860 FAX
"... specialists in Local Area Networks and Data Communications systems"
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
From: mreamy@rock.concert.net (Michael G Reamy -- Support)
Subject: Re: hubs
Organization: CONCERT-CONNECT -- Public Access UNIX
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:56:44 GMT

We have standardized on Cabletron hubs.  I like them because we can do 
everything direct - sales and support.  I have even had Cabletron install
one installation for us so far.  Probably the best and most professional
installation ever done at our site (by installation I mean hubs and wiring).


-- 

Michael G. Reamy (mreamy@rock.concert.net)

The light at the end of the tunnel may be an oncoming dragon.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc