HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Which Side To Mount?
Date: 15 Oct 1992 06:11:39 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

In a previous article, harsh@eceris.ece.ncsu.edu (Harsh Potlapalli) said:
:- Since this thread had come up, I have one observation of one rider (me).
:- I always seem to mount from the traffic side of the street. That is,
:- in the US, I mount from the left side (swing leg over, get comfy, hit
:- starter button); and when I was in India I used to mount from the right side

	what kind of bike did you ride in india? if it was one of the
	100cc's the kickstart would be on the right and for the enfield
	bullet it would be on the left, and for the yezdi the kickstart
	used to function as the gear lever too, and used to be on the
	left. this would i think make a big difference on how you get on
	the bike. also to be considered is whether the bike is on the
	side stand or not.

:- (jump on kick starter till engine fires, swing leg over). 

	this is confusing... you say "mount from the right side" and
	then later say "swing leg over"... wouldnt you swing your leg
	over when you mount??? i have noticed people kicking with their
	left leg (without mounting the bike) on a right-side kickstarter
	bike.

:- Anybody else have similar tales?

	i have always (in india and the u.s) mounted the bike from the
	left. i would think the reason would be that i have always used
	side stands.

	peace,

	- ravi


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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: I won? (NOT!)
Keywords: cager,asshole
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:15:38 GMT

root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes:

>Sounds ot me like a clear case of what we cops here in Ohio call ACDA - which
                                        ^^ ^^^^
Uh, oh.  Would this be a good time to resurrect the "running from cops"
thread? :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: brady_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Brady)
Subject: Re: CX500 Fan Club   (Was: Paying for Damages...)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:14:37 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <mumble> John Hamilton (john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG) writes:
>
> "Frog-eye Sprites" ? The bloody beasties are called Bug-Eye Sprites. Get it
> right!

I believe that in the States, the term was Bug-Eye. In the UK (and Canada, if
I remember correctly) the term was Frog-Eye. I have a picture of meas a child,
behind the wheel of one -- I've wanted one ever since, but have not found ones
in restorable (for me :-) shape. Next best thing to a motorcycle, that!

--pete (former brit-car driver)

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Pete Brady                              EMAIL: brady_p@apollo.hp.com
Dirtbag Contractor from Hell(tm)        PHONE: 508-436-5226

DoD #5831 -- '92 CBR600F2
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 105 MPH (was Re: Motorcyclist Hits Bicycli
Date: 9 Oct 1992 21:02:18 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 2AD5D032@kennel.FIDONET.ORG, john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) writes:
>Friday October 09 1992 07:04, Dana H. Myers wrote to All:
>
> DHM> Ahem.... 105 MPH on Skyline happens to be the DoD Nominal Speed...
>
>The Skyline Blvd. in the Santa Cruz mountains which runs
>past Alice's Restaraunt in Woodside is one you can get up to speeds way
>over 100 mph for short times on, but I wouldn't want to try to average
>105 mph for any distance. 

105 mph is a rec.moto.joke.  It started when David Fenstimaker (?)
bragged about going 105 on Skyline, got flamed for it, and subsequently
tried to defend it by pointing out his bicycle experience, quick
reflexes, and weight lifting prowess.  It usually appears more subtly
in posts, such as 154 ft/sec.

>There IS a Century Club that inducts those who
>run from Woodside to Hghwy 92 on Skyline Blvd. with an average speed of
>100 mph or more, but it has very few members.

I've heard of this a few times, but I suspect it has long since ceased,
or is an urban legend.  I mean, with whom does one register?  Just
trying to find out would probably constitute some kind of conspiracy to
violate the law.


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  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,triangle.forsale,triangle.general,misc.wanted
From: woodstock!scatlin@mcnc.org (Scot Catlin)
Subject:  WANTED: Kawasaki KZ650
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1992 20:25:28 GMT

        The subject line says it all.  I'm looking for a parts bike
for my KZ.  It's a 1978, but just about any year would be fine for a
parts bike.  It doesn't have to run, it doesn't have to look nice.  I
just need some parts that are not important enough to buy separately,
and I'd like to have something to turn to when I have problems.  I'm
located in Durham, NC right now, but also have a residence in
Pittsburgh, Pa.  If you can help me out, you can e-mail me at the
address below, or call if you like.  I'll spend up to $250 for the
bike, maybe more if it's worth it.

        Thanks in advance.

                                Scot
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|Work      (919) 991-8763.  .  . * 1978 Kawasaki KZ650D * .  .  .  .  .|
|Home      (919) 490-1916 .  .  .************************  .  .  .  .  |
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|Internet: woodstock!scatlin@mcnc.org   .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .|
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: Roar.Larsen@termo.unit.no (Roar Larsen)
Subject: Infuriating little sisters...!
Organization: SINTEF, Norway
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 08:09:55 GMT

Last night I got a phone call from my sister who is currently
living and working in Switzerland (Ivan - say hello if you see her :-).
After chatting for 5 minutes, she "just happens" to mention that 
she and her boyfriend had popped out to buy a '92 HD Springer
Softail in the afternoon... (She doesn't ride herself, but loves
pillioning.) The bike was almost new, with about 1000 miles on the
odometer, and cost them SFR 22,000 (about 17,900 USD at the current 
rates, I think...). Probably seems expensive to you guys "over there", 
but looks like a _real_ bargain from a Norwegian point of view...

I've never been much of a "Harley-luster" myself, but studying this
beast in the 92 HD catalog (thanks to Eric Friets for mailing it to me!),
I thinks it's a real beauty. Have to go down and visit her again soon...

Ahh - what little sisters won't do just to taunt their brothers :-)

Roar Larsen           DoD# 463
Trondheim, Norway    '85 FJ 1100

"It's better to be DoD and cool, than to get a life and be uncool!"
            - Harley Davidson & the Marlboro Man (slightly edited).
From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: We are sick and tired!!
Date: 15 Oct 92 03:06:18 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Wednesday October 14 1992 13:10, Andrew Michael Woodward wrote to All:

 AMW> I would like to prpose a new subgroup. There is clearly a vital need for
 AMW> a rec.motorcycles.high.pitched.whining.
 AMW> Most of the postings for this group could be redirected here, so maybe
 AMW> bandwidth could be saved by simply removing rec.motorcycles.
 AMW> Note no smileys.

Given your post above, you should be the first poster in r.m.h.p.w.

John

--- GoldED 2.40.P0720+
--  
John Hamilton                  uucp: uts.amdahl.com!kennel!john
DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris)
Subject: Re: Harley riders are JAGOFFS!!
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:00:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.143700.3878@pica.army.mil> tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>) writes:
[many extremely valid race requirements deleted]

Oh oh, and there needs to be a *really* cute teddy bear strapped to the
rear trunk. And it has to be dark brown. No, wait wait....light brown.
And it has to be made in the U.S. of A.!!!

-John
============================================================================
                            John S. Morris  #0316
  Open Software Foundation - 11 Cambridge Centre - Cambridge, MA 02142 USA
    Voice: +1 (617) 621-8739 Fax: +1 (617) 621-0584 Email: jsm@osf.org
                           Ride: K100RS Cage: 320i
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: counter-steering?
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:03:07 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 11036@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, dgibb@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Don Gibb) writes:
>
>For those of you that actually thought I was earnest in asking about 
>counter-steering and posted a valid response, thanks.  But, (there's always
> a but)  you got snookered.  :-0

[sigh]

Is it just me, or does this behavior strike anybody else as an
incredibly infantile way to get one's jollies?  I mean, exactly what is
the point, Don?

Pasternak did it with style, and at least Deeney chose an appropriate
date.  The "baiting" on this group has gotten so juvenile it's
pathetic, including the inevitable fishing metaphor followups.

Yeah, Don, I'm snookered. 

Fuck you.

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  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bigdog!jon (Jon Wright)
Subject: Re: 105 MPH (was Re: Motorcyclist Hits Bicyclist on Skyline Blvd.)
Organization: Banzai Research Institute
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:47:30 GMT

Dana H. Myers writes
> In article <BvpLFM.3Es@cup.hp.com> Chris Steinbroner <hesh@cup.hp.com>  
writes:
> >Arnie Berger (arnie@col.hp.com) wrote:
> >: motorcycles blazing by at 70 or 80 mph.
> >
> >snicker.  that's slow.  seriously.  70mph is easy to achieve,
> >even on the few turns there are.  not that i'm boasting or
> >anything, just pointing out that 100 is something to talk
> >about, not 70 or 80.
> 
> Ahem.... 105 MPH on Skyline happens to be the DoD Nominal Speed...

BTW, has anybody noticed the photographers roosting at some corners on the  
Pacific Crest lately?  I read somewhere these jerks are posing as motorcyclists  
but in reality are activists trying to introduce "irrefutable" evidence to  
lawmakers so that the Crest will be closed to all motorcycles.  I hope this  
ain't true.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: howland@noc2.arc.nasa.gov (Curtis Howland)
Subject: Re: Is anyone out there a bike thief?
Organization: NASA Science Internet Project Office
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 10:04:28 GMT

In article <29130@life.ai.mit.edu>, benjamin@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Benjamin Renaud) writes:
...
|> stairs i see someone doing something to my bike (a Nighthawk 700S). I
|> start running,...I grab him by the collar (he was
|> little so i could be manly and threatening) and throw him on the side
|> with a punch in the nose. He runs away.

|> Thanks,
|> Benjamin Renaud
|> benjamin@ai.mit.edu   dod 676  

you.... you.... let him get away?

I'm not sure I would have had that much restraint.

---
Curt Howland "Ace"       DoD#0663       EFF#538
howland@nsipo.nasa.gov            '82 V45 Sabre
  Don't bother arguing with drunks or zealots
they're not listening to anyone but themselves.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger)
Subject: Re: WANTED:INTERCEPTER 500
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:13:11 GMT

In <traurig-071092171513@129.86.16.231> traurig@ncavax.decnet.lockheed.com (Scott Traurig) writes:

>In article <1992Oct7.000751.16366@netcom.com>, agent86@netcom.com (Michael
>McBride) wrote:
>> 
>> In article <92280.154056AKS112@psuvm.psu.edu> ALEX STEFANOWICZ <AKS112@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:


>> 	If you keep good tires on the thing it will handle quite well!  The
>> bike feels very light in the corners.
> 
>   True.  Any suggestions for good tires?
> 
  I had one for 2 years and was very happy with it. I don't beleive that
the light feel is due to tire size but a combination of quick geometry,
16" front wheel, and wide bars.
  I always felt the bike should have come with more clip-on like(narrower) bars.
This would have made the bike feel more stable at speed since it
wouldn't be so sensitive to rider input. Also at 5'-7" when I tried to
tuck in had my hands near my shoulders. The lower narrower bars would
have helped here as well.

  My bike also started making a ticking noise that sounded like spark
snap from the right rear head. I eventualy dissected the heads to try
to find the problem but found nothing. I then had Honda look at it
(smart huh?) and they told me that they could take it apart but
probably wouldn't find anything wrong. Three years later I still
sometimes see it around, still making the same noise. Go figure.

  It was a really sweet bike.
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   Jorg Klinger            |       GSXR1100        | If you only new who
   Arch. & Eng. Services   |          **           | I think I am. 
   UManitoba, Man. Ca.     |"The Embalmer" - IT175 |           - anonymous
From: rct@fulcrum.bt.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HELMETS:Arai only
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:03:57 GMT
Organization: Fulcrum Communications

In article <9210062131.aa05709@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu> swollny@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU writes:
>
>I was wondering if someone could tell me the real difference between
>the Arai: Quantum, Regent, and the Signet.
>
>I've tried on the Signet and it feels and fits "ok".  I wasn't able to
>get a hold of any Quantums to try on. I was able to try on the Regent,
>but in the wrong s wrong size. I needed a size small.  This brings up
>another queastion
>
>Helmet fitting?  I plan on road racing here in California at Willow
>Springs Raceway, in Lancaster.  I have a Bell M-2 helmet which is fine
>for the street, as long as I don't exceed 80 mph.(ie. it starts to
>fall back at higher speeds).  So how is a road racing helmet suppose
>to fit?  I have tried on the Shoei's, but there is extreme presure in
>the center of my forehead.  My head also does not hit the top
>(problem) So I will be buying an Arai Helmet.
>
>I'd love to hear from you.  As this is my first time in this square
>thing!  Ha Ha! I would also like to get some info on racing boots.  I
>already have Fieldsheer leathers.
>
>Thanks, Samantha (Sammy for short)

Beware of the quality of Fieldsheer leather. The used (down the track)
leathers I've seen were not scuff resistant, and the knee sliders twisted into
the riders knee (due to not being custom fitted?). I am not impressed by
Dainese stuff either, having seen three (3) of Rob McElnea's used suits in
Crowtree Leathers a few years ago. Crowtree were given them to patch up.
They were really only safe for one crash only at GP500 level, but he only
had 8 suits (he didn't have a good season!).

I'd be interested to see what other people have 'tested'.

Regards,
============================================================================
Richard Taylor                 DoD #981               (rct@fulcrum.bt.co.uk)
"There ain't no Sanity Claus", Groucho Marx.
============================================================================
Fulcrum Communications Ltd., Fordrough Lane, Birmingham, B9 5LD, ENGLAND.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: spgo@is.morgan.com (Stefan Goellner)
Subject: Wanna play???
Keywords: left coast vist
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:24:30 GMT

Hey all you northern californicator debauchers. Looks like I'll be out
in Menlo Park Oct 15th for business. I then get to go play from Thu night
thru Sunday. Anyone wanna come out and have a beer or two????

--
Stef            aka  spgo@is.morgan.com   DoD#0190 
'82 KZ550 (Commuter) '84 750 Interceptor (Toy) '86 Alfa GTV6 (Money drain)
                Warning: I brake for radar traps. 
        Disclaimer? I don't need no steenkin' disclaimer!




Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Wed,  7 Oct 1992 02:13:21 -0400 
From: Mark Joseph Andy <ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: ANNOUNCING HIFI!!! (was: We are sick and tired!!)
	<4890@prcrs.prc.com>


Howdy,

terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham) writes:
> > What we have here is not "DoD idiots" flaming, but a large
> > assortment of highly individual flaming idiots.
> I have never been so honored!  I like the sound of it rolling off the
> tongue - highly individual flaming idiot.  It has heft, it sounds punk,
> it'll drive the whiners crazy.  How do I join?  who has the list?

Yeah!!!  Ok, I'll be the first kotl for this one.  Blaine, if he wants
it, can have the first number pick.  Send me your number requests to
belong to this exclusive club of (H)ighly (I)ndividual (F)laming
(I)diots!!!

Mark

| Mark J. Andy			WERA NV #813		AMA #700560	|
| ma1w+@cmu.edu			KotR			DoD #813	|
| Co-founder/Rider, Team RISC and Two Geeks Racing			|
| '82 Seca 650 (street), '85 RZ350 (track), '87 KDX200 (the humbler)	|
| I want RZ350 parts like steering damper, fork brace, SS lines, etc... |
From: leighann@alpine.sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Depth perception
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:46:22 GMT
Organization: Doxies of Debauchery

In article <717708970.239035.TJM@math.ams.org>, TJM@MATH.AMS.ORG (Tom Maloney) writes:
|> Well, Leigh Ann, would you care to submit to a cavity search to verify this?
|> Any number of D's oD would perform this cervix^H^H^H^H^H^Hservice free of
|> charge.

Well, heavens, kind sir, you're more than welcome to look... Just don't
touch unless you mean it! ;->

	- Leigh Ann (who has, after all, a name to live up to...


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Brazen Hussey  leighann@sybase.com  DoD#5913  AMA#624549  AWRRA#23 (skidoo!)
'74 Honda CB360 "Fyrdraka"   			'81 Yamaha Maxim650 "Elhaz"
"And they ride, and they ride/ And the White Hounds run beside/ And they'll
seize the night and shake it by the throat."
From: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 1993 JB Triumph 900s at Cologne
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:35:50 GMT
Organization: Computervision

In article <3880148@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison) writes:
>As reported by Malcolm, a subscriber to euro-moto, from Cologne this week.
>
>Triumph Tiger 900 Triple
>========================
>
>Triumph Sprint 900 Triple
>=========================
>

T'would be nice if ole Malcolm would report that Triump had signed a new
trade agreement with the US of A to the effect that they were suddenly going
to start importing thousands of these machines into America ...

Dreams...only dreams 8-(.

	
Rich Bemben - DoD #0044                     rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
Back in the saddle - BONNE'S ALIVE          (617) 275-1800 x 4173
The street giveth and the street taketh away - Catmother
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis)
Subject: Re: ZX-11 outperforms Harley, obviously (was Re: Harley Outperforms ZX11, Film at Eleven)
Reply-To: randy@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:41:37 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.160301.18596@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude) writes:
|In article <1992Oct12.205813.14783@megatek.com>, randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis) writes:
|> You HAVE to modify a Harley to get decent power out of it (ask Seth about
|> why he added the drag pipes) and to improve other shortcomings.
|
|I switched to straight pipes solely because I liked the sound.  Drag pipes
|caused a significant reduction in low end power, made the engine more
|difficult to warm up and added a few narrow flat spots to throttle response.
|They had better top end than the stock exhaust or Python pipes but I rarely
|crank the motor up to the red line.

  Ok, then I owe you an apology, Seth...  I am painfully aware of a LOT of
motorcyclists - both Harley and non-Harley riders - that immediately replace
the stock exhaust system with an aftermarket system which is louder in 99% of
the cases I've seen - to me, the Harley aftermarket systems seem much louder
(at least, at low rpm - I don't like howling sport-bikes, either), but that
may be just my perception.  Every person that has done so, from Harley-riding
friends to sportbikers, etc... always spouts the litany of "increasing power",
although most of them don't even bother to rejet or anything else to actually
get the real power gains, and most don't ever use the power they do gain,
since it is normally in the upper rpm range.

  Personally, I like the power gains which increase power in the *low* rpm
range - such as the FJ1200 design, and to some extent, the ZX-11 (its got
decent low-end power as a probable side effect of having so much peak power -
the power curve has to start somewhere).

Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: parlez-vous franc,ais?
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:04:05 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

i would like to contact fellow rec.motorcyclists who live in france
(esp. paris or nice) or quebec, esp. those who are study/work at/near
colleges or universities.

please reply by e-mail.

thanks.

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dgibb@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Don Gibb)
Subject: Re: counter-steering?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:26:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.142723.9587@oclc.org> hur@oclc.org (Matt Hur) writes:
>I overheard some bikers at a local shop talking about "counter-steering".
>Can someone tell me what that is?  I just steer my bike by turning
>the bars.
>
>thanks in advance,
>Don Gibb


Before this gets any further out of hand than it already has:
 
  I, Don Gibb of '83 Suzuki GS1100L fame,  DID NOT send the posting asking
  about counter-steering.
 

-- 
  
Don Gibb - DoD #0088
'83 Suzuki GS1100L