From: ping@bnlux1.bnl.gov (Shiping Zhang)
Subject: Re: Be a respectable Chinese.  Zi Zun, Zi Ai.
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 05:04:30 GMT

In article <Bx0rrv.831@nic.umass.edu> usys@titan.ucc.umass.edu (CLARENCE J MAZIARZ JR) writes:
>I admire China. I respect Chinese people and people with honor, people with
>dignity.

  If the above sentence has any truth,  then the post wouldn't be full
  of phony-baloney accusations on Chinese people.

>Recently I am really shocked by some Chinese students' lack of sense of a bit
>of shame.

  I'm really shocked by your lack of common sense.

>          They only care themselves, no one else.

  Better than sticking into other people's business.

>                                                  Everybody knows you want to 
>stay in this country. What I'd like to remind you is that no one cares where 
>you want to stay. It is totally your own business.

  But you still feel it's your business.
  
>                                                   (Actually, you'd better
>stay away from China.) But you guys just cannot benefit yourselves while 
>hurting others, especially your compatriots and your nation.

  They simply cann't help it if people like you feel hurt.  After all, it's
  not your business.

>                                                             Your arguments
>are simply lie. No one can be more clear about it than you.

  Yet, you appear even clearer so you appointed yourself as their spokesman.
  
>                                                            Your "achievement"
>just constitutes the most shameful page of history.

  Seems your post is a winning candidate for that page. 
  
>I just can't believe it is Chinese who are seeking a foreign country's 
>protection by damaging their own motherland. Unfortunately, you are now still
>Chinese. Fortunately you cannot represent Chinese and this makes me feel 
>better.

  Of course you feel good because you think only CCP government can represent
  Chinese.
 
>Do you guys really think you are heroes in American's mind? You are ending up
>being refugees, if better than something worse than refugees. Anyway, you don't
>care.

  Yet, there are still people who are even jealous of refugees.
  
>Bill Clinton is having a hard time for his involvement in anti-America 
>demonstration in Moscow. We can imagine what happens if he ever begged for
>Russian's protection. Since you want to be American (do not deny it), you
>should learn how Americans react to such conduct.

  What people have learned is that Americans just gave you, a phony American,
  a loud slap on your face. 
 
>There is no denying that CCP committed crimes and even atrocities and serious
>violation of some basic human rights does exist in China. But let's give 
>credit to where credit is due. They admit their mistakes (of course not enough)
>and they are trying to improve. What is important is they are leading Chinese 
>people in the right direction. If you always label other people " CCP-running
>dog", what kind of dog are you? Of course some people do like your CCP-bashing.

  Seems you yourself feel like a CCP-running dog.

>You are attaching conditions on China's trade status, boycotting China's toy 
>import, etc. (It will be really interesting if Japanese here boycott Toyota and
>Koreans against their Hyundai. GM just can't wait to see this.) You should be
>reminded that DAMAGING YOUR MOTHERLAND'S INTERESTS FOR WHATEVER REASONS IS 
>SHAME, NOT HONOR.

  What about apologizing for a ruthless government?  Of course it's an honor
  for you.

>                  Comparing those Chinese who launch satellites and those who
>compete for Olympic Gold for China, what the hell are you doing here ??? 

  Certainly not praising the CCP government for everything Chinese people
  achieve.  But comparing with the real Americans who think people have the
  right to criticize the government, what the hell is the phony American
  doing here?
  
>Is this: 
>               Zheng4 Shi4 Bu4 Zu2,  Bai4 Shi4 You3 Yu2 ?

  It is:
		Wei4 Hu3 Zuo4 Chang1, Lang2 Bei4 Wei2 Jian1.
 
>Now the situation is really a dilemma for Chinese government. They dare not 
>tell Chinese people the truth of what some of the Chinese students are doing 
>here.I think this time they are blocking the right news. Only the USA is the 
>one to be blamed for "hindering" Chinese students returning home.

  When did the CCP govenment block wrong news?  To the CCP government,
  right news is bad news.  Is it a dilemma to you?
  
>As to Mr. Shannon Yeh, though I do not fully agree with his posting manner, his
>motive is definitely justifiable and his courage is admirable. You guys just 
>act like murder suspects who are scared to death of any testimony against you.

  Because the real murderers are still at loose.

>There is an unprecedented ally in this news group in striking back any 
>criticism of your shameful conduct. But we do not have to wait too long to 
>witness another war. You will kill each other to get the green card first. 

  Have a nice dream.
  
>After all, what can be expected from you? Anyway, your guts to expose 
>yourselves to shame is unsurpassable.

  Xiao3 Wu1 Jian4 Da4 Wu1 when meeting the phony American.

>You really should be D-fighters, Dignity-fighters. If you lose, you will never
>be a winner.

  So when you lose, you are still a winner.

>Somebody is talking about "Xiang Jian He Tai Ji", really funny.
>  
>              Zhongguo Ren, Bu Yao Zai Ma Mu Le.
>              Ni Men Yao Fen Qing Shi Yu Fei.
>              Ni Men De Min Zu Zi Zun Xin Na Li Qu Le?

  That's the so-called respect to Chinese people as claimed in the first
  paragraph of the post.  It's phony or baloney?

>I love China.

  Unfortunately,  Cheng2 Shi4 Bu4 Zu2,  Bai4 Shi4 You3 Yu2.

-ping