From: cf@planck.physics.purdue.edu (Coleen Flanagan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Julie
Summary: He gets no respect
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:40:22 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Physics Department

>Hi all,

>   Julie is starting to really annoy me.(jeff too)  This is probably
>mostly the fault of the writers.  Julie just has to go as Jack's boss. 
>This story is totally unbelievable.  First, Jack has to practically beg
>for a job at the Spectator.  There is no way I can believe that either
>Julie or Vern can do a better job as editor than Jack.  Why couldn't
>Julie have simply bought the spectator and allowed Jack to remain as
>editor.  J&J were really struggling back then moneywise and Julie is
>family to them.  OK, so now even if Vern is editor Julie must have been
>able to find a better position for Jack than that of a starting
>reporter.  Here's a guy who's been editor for many years and before that
>an accomplished politician.  There must have been some position in the
>paper which could have used these skills.  Julie just struck me as being
>extremely cold during all of these scenes.  I expected her to react in a
>way much more like John did to Carrie a few weeks ago when he gave her
>money for school.  Especially considering how rich she is.  I realize
>she did offer Jack a higher starting salary than most new reporters (i
>think he refused this), but to not be able to find Jack a better job in
>the paper he ran for years is ridiculous.  
>Well, I kind of forgot about these scenes until today's episode.
>Jack asked Julie for a raise and she flat out refused him.  Again the
>entire scene felt extremely cold, especially considering that J&J and
>Julie are family.   Knowing how difficult it is for Jack to ask for
>handouts, it really seemed like he thought he deserved the raise.  This
>scene today made Julie seem really fake to me.  She shows up all excited
>to help decorate, goes all crazy about Abby, and seems so concerned yet
>she can't believe Jack would think about asking for a raise.  Jack is a
>former editor and shouldn't be making the salary of a starting reporter.
>He isn't some inexperienced reporter just out of school.  I just kind
>of expected that Julie would be a little more helpful towards J&J.

>-marcus


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    This is the second time in 2 days someone has echoed my exact sentiments
    about a character and a scene.  I couldn't agree with you more with how 
    Julie treated Jack in such a patronizing manner.  Knowing what money
    problems J&J have had this past year, the hovel they lived in, and the
    fact they have a new mouth to feed and clothe I thought Julie showed little
    sensitivity.  Your're right Marcus, why didn't Julie buy the Spectator and
    let Jack remain as Editor since he is family and since she knows little or
    nothing about the newspaper business.  Jack was very honest about his male 
    ego being bruised but that didn't seem to phase Julie.  I never even thought 
    about the idea that Julie could have offered Jack a more suitable job other 
    than cub reporter status.  Julie literally told Jack he had to prove himself
    worthy before she could grant him a raise.  Jack WAS the editor of the paper
    she NOW has her name on.  I think reading that job position on anyone's
    resume would have impressed the most demanding employer much less family.
    To reiterate what was said before asking Jennifer's family for anything has
    been completely taboo all along for Jack so for him to spring this request
    for a raise on Julie should have given her a clear indication that Jack's pride
    was quickly fading.  Labeling him a neanderthal certainly didn't help matters.
    If Victor asked Julie a favor you can be sure she would seriously weigh the
    pros and cons and not react quite so flippantly as she did to Jack.  I wish
    more characters would start treating Jack with a little more respect.  Alice 
    and Jo are sweet and kind to Jack but they treat him more childlike.  Since 
    Jack isn't allowed his own BestFriendInTheWorld (other than Jen) the only 
    person who treats Jack as if he has a brain is Bill Horton.  Don't get me
    wrong as I normally love the scenes between Julie and Jack but that scene
    yesterday between them rubbed me the wrong way.  

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    Coleen
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