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From: dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Don't blame lawyers!
Date: 26 Dec 92 18:26:17 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <1ha35qINN5ne@life.ai.mit.edu>, joltman@cookie-crisp.ai.mit.edu (T. Andy Frakes) writes:
> Who is this DMC bonehead, anyway?  There's been so much traffic here
> recently that I've only been scanning the articles for real info or
> interesting debates.  Needless to say, I've skipped a majority of the
> articles and seemed to have missed all this DMC stuff (perhaps for
> the better).  On the surface it looks like this bozo is yanking a lot
> of chains and probably having a good time doing it (or perhaps I'm
> giving they guy too much credit and he's just a total moron, but
> probably not).  I recognize the style, though.  I've used it myself a
> few times before to spice things up when things are slow.  I even did
> it on this newsgroup a few months back with that one article titled
> "Listen Up, Bobby Bashers" as many of you probably remember.  Most
> people eventually figured it out, but some didn't (even after telling
> them!). 

While that may have been a tactic you used to while away the hours in your
otherwise pointless existance, my posts have been designed to question the
positions stated by 'experts' and if said positions are the result of informed,
impartial decision-making.

Just because YOU waste your life does not mean that everyone else is as
pointless as you.
 
	  If you want people to know that you're just pulling their leg,
> I think you need to end your article like those phony talk show callers
> do (Capt. Janks, etc.):  "....and I was also wondering if it's not too
> late to order 'Butt Bongo Fiesta' by Howard Stern."  Then again, people
> will probably still not get the joke.

Make no mistake, my attacks are entirely serious.

> 
> Oh well.  I think I'll start reading this thread for a while in case it
> proves interesting.

Not with such un-educable people as yourself jumping in...except, of course, to
those who have similar degrees of repsect for legitimate questions.

> 
> -Andy
> 
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Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: spin@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Jeremy Spinrad)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Siesta Variation (name) and Albin Counter question
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:47:56 GMT
Organization: Chessnews list (chessnews-request@tssi.com)
NNTP-Posting-Host: helios.unl.edu


   I made a mistake in an earlier post on the name of the Siesta variation.
I noted that the variation was first played in 1909 by Marshall vs. 
Capablanca, and then did not reappear until it was used by Capablanca in 
a tournament in Budapest in 1928, which I thought accounted for the name
"siesta". As it turns out, the Budapest tournament was called the Siesta
tournament, and the name of the variation comes from this. I leave it to a
better chess historian than myself to explain why a tournament in Budapest is
called the Siesta tournament.
   Using the same book which told me these historical tidbits as a source, I
played a strange line in the Albon countergambit in a recent tournament with
a good result. I could not find the line in any modern opening book; I was
wondering if anyone had comments on it.

1. P-Q4 P-Q4 2. P-QB4 P-K4 3. QPxP P-Q5 4. N-KB3 N-QB3 5. QN-Q2 and now the
bizarre looking move, suggested as a possibility in Tartakower and DuMont's
book "500 Master Games", Q-K2. Modern opening books give B-K3, B-KN5, B-QN5,
P-B3, Q-Q2 as possibilities, but not this. The point, which worked in my
game vs. a player rated ~2050, is to castle queenside ASAP, trade off the 
king bishop pawn via P-KB3 opening the king file, and advance the queen pawn 
with a wild game in store. Of course, the king's bishop doesn't develop
easily, but that is part of the bargain. Does anyone know an example of this
line being tested in master play?

Jerry Spinrad
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: sloan@cis.uab.edu (Kenneth Sloan)
Subject: PowerBook Chess?
Organization: CIS, University of Alabama at Birmingham
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 05:18:10 GMT

I'm about to order a PowerBook 180 (I think).  Does anyone have a first
hand recommendation for a chess program which will run on it?  Any
suggestions for configuring the PB 180 for best performance of the
recommended chess program?




-- 
Kenneth Sloan                   Computer and Information Sciences
sloan@cis.uab.edu               University of Alabama at Birmingham
(205) 934-2213                  115A Campbell Hall, UAB Station 
(205) 934-5473 FAX              Birmingham, AL 35294-1170
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: hau4@ellis.uchicago.edu (sven  hauptfeld)
Subject: Re: Pardon Fischer?
Reply-To: hau4@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 05:07:54 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.102024.588@uoft02.utoledo.edu> dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec21.050129.5523@midway.uchicago.edu>, hau4@ellis.uchicago.edu (sven  hauptfeld) writes:
>> In article <1992Dec19.164138.568@uoft02.utoledo.edu> dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
>>>In article <1992Dec18.210943.10605@midway.uchicago.edu>, hau4@ellis.uchicago.edu (sven  hauptfeld) writes:
>>>> In article <1gpafnINN8bb@tamsun.tamu.edu> sharring@cs.tamu.edu (Steven L Harrington) writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>                   Couldn't we better use that "slot" in prison for housing
>>>>>someone that is an actual threat to society?
>>>> 
>>>> By your logic, we should pardon WWII war criminals who are now 80+ years old
>>>> and definitely do not pose any actual threat to society.
>>>> 
>>>> 	Sven
>>>> 
>>>
>>>By your logic Bobby Fischer has done the equivelent evil as Megela.
>>>
>>>DMC
>>>
>> I guess you should work on your logic as well as on your spelling.
>> 
>> 	Sven
>> 
>
>Well, if your reading comprehension is so poor that you do not have the ability
>to understand text with a few typos, then perhaps I should.

Hmmm... but if I hadn't understood, how would I have been aware that your
spelling was incorrect? 

You've got to improve your reasoning...

>
>As for the 'logic' of comparing Fischer to Mengela,
                                            ~~~~~~~
Still mangled ;-)

> YOU were the first to
>equate Fischer with WWII war criminals.

And how did I do that?

> If you can see how innane that is now,
>pehpaps you whould not have used it in the first place.
>
Perhaps you should turn your brain on and reread the whole dialogue (as 
reposted hereby).

	Sven
From: dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Chess problem of causing probelms.
Date: 26 Dec 92 18:30:55 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <haha.725395615@vipunen.hut.fi>, haha@vipunen.hut.fi (Harri Haanp{{) writes:
>> Obligatory chess question:  Does there exist a chess position in
>> which Black has enough material to mate White in theory, but Black
>> cannot mate White even with White's cooperation, while on the other
>> hand White can mate Black without Black's cooperation?
> 
> K . k r b . . .   Now certainly KRBP should be enough material to mate
> P . . p . . . .   against KPPP. In this particular position, however..
> . . . P . . . .
> . P . . . . . .   White (caps) to move.
> . . . . . . . .
> . . . . . . . .   C. S. Kipping (Chess 1936)
> . . . . . . . .
> . . . . . . . .   2X
> 
> Harri H.

Not quite. Move the bishop, the rook goes free, and the board changes.



Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: uzun@crash.cts.com (Roger Uzun)
Subject: Re: Mchess Pro
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 22 Dec 92 00:10:05 PST

In article <2b35f65bwnr070@ark.abg.sub.org> ralf@ark.abg.sub.org (R.Stephan) writes:
>
>My friend is just testing MChessPro on a 486/50 against the Chessmachine
>and he says that MChessPro is definitely stronger.  Especially in the
>endgame the program seems to be improved and now very rustproof which
>you can't say about many programs.
>

I would thiknn MChess pro would be better than The Chess machine,
but in fact in Madrid they played a game head to head, and
The Chess Machine won, as white.  MChess pro was on a 486/66DX2

-Roger
--------------------------------------------------------------
bix: ruzun
NET: uzun@crash.cts.com
From: duelge@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Jason Duelge)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Chess problem of causing probelms.
Date: 27 Dec 92 14:14:05 GMT
Reply-To: duelge@schaefer.UUCP (Jason Duelge)
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics

In article <1992Dec26.183055.644@uoft02.utoledo.edu> dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
>In article <haha.725395615@vipunen.hut.fi>, haha@vipunen.hut.fi (Harri Haanp{{) writes:
>> K . k r b . . .   Now certainly KRBP should be enough material to mate
>> P . . p . . . .   against KPPP. In this particular position, however..
>> . . . P . . . .
>> . P . . . . . .   White (caps) to move.
>> . . . . . . . .
>> . . . . . . . .   C. S. Kipping (Chess 1936)
>> . . . . . . . .
>> . . . . . . . .   2X
>> 
>> Harri H.
>
>Not quite. Move the bishop, the rook goes free, and the board changes.
>
White moves the pawn
Black moves the bishop, white moves the pawn, checkmate

Are you sure you are on the right group, Don?

Jason

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Jason Duelge                                                              |
| 141 Lakewood                                                              |
|  Gardens ln                                                               | 
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 02:29:52 -0500 
From: Ron_Kownacki@transarc.com
Subject: Consensus?

I haven't had time to read this group much lately, so I'm just posting to
see if there has been any net consensus on the following issues:

    - Do people feel that Bobby is still the best?
    - Independently of the first question, do the rgc readers still feel
      that he's the champion, as he claims?
    - Do people feel that his playing in Yugoslavia was justified, or not?
    - Is the answer different now that he's faced with a criminal suit?
    - Do people feel that the quality of the match was high, say 2700+?

And by the way, what was the outcome of the solvability issue?  I had always
thought it was solvable, but I guess I could be wrong.

Thanks in advance ... Ron
From: dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Pardon Fischer?
Date: 28 Dec 92 10:54:07 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <1992Dec28.050754.13986@midway.uchicago.edu>, hau4@ellis.uchicago.edu (sven  hauptfeld) writes:
> In article <1992Dec21.102024.588@uoft02.utoledo.edu> dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Dec21.050129.5523@midway.uchicago.edu>, hau4@ellis.uchicago.edu (sven  hauptfeld) writes:
>>> In article <1992Dec19.164138.568@uoft02.utoledo.edu> dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
>>>>In article <1992Dec18.210943.10605@midway.uchicago.edu>, hau4@ellis.uchicago.edu (sven  hauptfeld) writes:
>>>>> In article <1gpafnINN8bb@tamsun.tamu.edu> sharring@cs.tamu.edu (Steven L Harrington) writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                   Couldn't we better use that "slot" in prison for housing
>>>>>>someone that is an actual threat to society?
>>>>> 
>>>>> By your logic, we should pardon WWII war criminals who are now 80+ years old
>>>>> and definitely do not pose any actual threat to society.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 	Sven
>>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>By your logic Bobby Fischer has done the equivelent evil as Megela.
>>>>
>>>>DMC
>>>>
>>> I guess you should work on your logic as well as on your spelling.
>>> 
>>> 	Sven
>>> 
>>
>>Well, if your reading comprehension is so poor that you do not have the ability
>>to understand text with a few typos, then perhaps I should.
> 
> Hmmm... but if I hadn't understood, how would I have been aware that your
> spelling was incorrect? 

Good point. If you understood, why did you make a point of it? (Besides it is
the ONLY faults you can find with what I am saying?)


> 
> You've got to improve your reasoning...

You've got to learn to realize biting sarcasm when it is right in yor face.


> 
>>
>>As for the 'logic' of comparing Fischer to Mengela,
>                                             ~~~~~~~
> Still mangled ;-)
> 
>> YOU were the first to
>>equate Fischer with WWII war criminals.
> 
> And how did I do that?

With your post that brought WWII criminals into the same arena as Fischer. If
you don't like the fact it is comming back to haunt you, you shouldn't have
done it.


> 
>> If you can see how innane that is now,
>>pehpaps you whould not have used it in the first place.
>>
> Perhaps you should turn your brain on and reread the whole dialogue (as 
> reposted hereby).

Brain is on. And, I have been reading. Maybe YOU should be more careful about
what you post. (Unless, of course, you deny you have been comparing the
legitimacy of punishing Fischer with the legitimacy of punishing people
who butchered six millon helpless victims.)


> 
> 	Sven
>
From: dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: The Serbs are free to imprison or kill Fischer
Date: 22 Dec 92 01:51:56 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <1992Dec21.202553.16640@cello.hpl.hp.com>, renglish@cello.hpl.hp.com (Bob English) writes:
> dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
> : So as long as someone is warned, whether the warning is just or not, the
> : person deserves what they get when they don't heed the warning?
> 
> So if someone were to warn you that you would be killed if you posted
> another message, you would deserve to be killed?
> 
> --bob--

Exactly Bob. The warning that an unjust act will be performed is not
justification to commit the act.

I am glad you agree with me.


Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: dscott@lonestar.utsa.edu (Daniel K. Scott)
Subject: Re: Softwares & Ratings !
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 23:54:27 GMT

I'm sorry if this is in the FAQ, but I just started reading this group and
haven't seen the FAQ yet.  I was recently given a copy of Chessmaster 2100
for the Macintosh, and it is one of the worst commercial programs I've ever
seen.  It crashes at the slightest provocation (usually when it's loosing).
It does have some nice features that would make it wonderful IF they worked.
Could anyone familiar with different chess programs for the Macintosh recommend
a suitable alternative? Thank you.
From: Daniel_Marsalone@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Daniel Marsalone)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: CM3000 and CM2100 rating feature
Distribution: world
Date: 23 Dec 92 08:04:22 CST
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

     I have a question about the rating feature of CM3000. I started
playing chess seriously (i.e. tournaments, and books) in January of 1992. I
have played about twenty rated games and my rating is approximately 1400. I
haven't played a rated game in months. In the last tournament I was in, I
won against an 1850 player and a bunch of mid 1500 guys. In fact, I have
also played in informal tournaments and have beaten 1600 guys and a 1700.
Basically what I'm trying to get across is that during my last six rated
games and last nine informal tournament games, I haven't lost to anyone
under 1700. Of course I haven't played anyone over 1800. The whole point of
this is to say that I don't think that my 1400 rating is all that accurate.
Now having said that let me get to my question.

    I have CM3000 and have used the rating feature. When my uncle did
challenge set two he was rated at 1866. When I took challenge set three I
got 2053. Now, I my uncle, my father and I play every day. I do beat my
uncle about 70%-80% of the timeBut is the rating that the CM3000 gives
accurate? Neither of us had taken any of the tests before. I got my uncle
to take it just to see what che was rated and then he wanted to see what I
got, so I took it. By the way, my uncle doesn't and hasn't played in any
tournaments. He just plays my pop, me, and CM2100 on his computer at work.
I think that those ratings seem rather high but I do realize that my
current UCSF rating is not really definative of my chess strength. 
 
  
    Also, how does the rating on CM2100 work? Do you need to play it at
tournament mode for it to work right or will it compensate the rating if
you play it on advanced mode at the time per move options (i.e. 5sec per
move, one minute per move)?
 

          Thank you very much.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

Daniel Marsalone             Daniel Marsalone            Daniel Marsalone
Internet: daniel_marsalone@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US
    UUCP: rex!agwbbs!daniel_marsalone
From: dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: pardon Fischer?
Date: 28 Dec 92 10:58:37 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <1992Dec28.050926.14076@midway.uchicago.edu>, hau4@ellis.uchicago.edu (sven  hauptfeld) writes:
> In article <1992Dec18.201558.10703@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> seh@neutron.physics.arizona.edu (Steven E. Hoell) writes:
>>So Bobby played chess in Yugoslavia and Willie
>>smoked pot in Great Britain.
>>
>>
>>Big forkin' deal.
>>
> 
> Do you think people being slaughtered and women raped by high orders is also
> `big f. deal'?
> 
> 	Sven
> 

Your ability to try and twist everything into a war crime is most impressive. 

Your lack of skill in pulling it off is pathetic.

Bobby Fischer did not rape anyone--unless you have some news we don't.
Bobby Fischer did kill anyone --    ..    ..   ..   ..   ..   ..  ..
Bobby Fischer had no "high orders"-- ..   ..   ..   ..   ..   ..  ..

Some of us can tell the difference between playing chess and acts of war.
From: dld@cs.monash.edu.au (David L Dowe)
Subject: Wanted: details of (computer) evaluation functions
Summary: Wanted: details of computer chess evaluation functions
Keywords: evaluation, position, positional, judgment
Organization: Computer Science, Monash University, Australia
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 10:18:26 GMT


   Hello.   I would be interested in references to papers and articles on
the evaluation functions of computer chess programs; the terms in the
evaluation functions and how the tuning is done.   I suspect that there is
much good (commercial) work that has been done but has not been published.
Anyway, please let me know what is available in writing or print.

Thank you.            - David Dowe.
From: coombs@ivan.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Chess in Palo Alto---where is it?
Date: 29 Dec 92 09:01:20 GMT
Reply-To: coombs@ivan.uucp ()
Organization: IRIS - Brown University

Can anyone recommend a good place to find chess in Palo Alto?  The
tournament scene seems barren compared to Boston, but I can't believe
that people aren't playing chess out here.  Or is it that there are
just so many more jobs?

--Jim

P.S.: headers are bogus, use coombs@parc.xerox.com
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: vbl@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Randall Julian)
Subject: Re: RATINGS
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 13:52:14 GMT

In article <1639.41.uupcb@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us>, rick.franks@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Rick Franks)  writes:
|>          Rec  Player Name           Last On   Times   Max   Rate   Win  Lose
|> Draw
|> ----  --------------------  --------  -----   ---   ----  ----  ----  ----
|>    0  Richard Parker        12/06/92     17   100   1427    10     7     0
|>    1  Rick Franks           12/08/92     16   100   1419     9     7     0
|>    2  Tim Pollard           09/25/92      1   100   1384     0     1     0
|>    3  Marc Lukenchuk        10/29/92      4   100   1403     2     2     0
|>    4  Tony Reesby           09/28/92      1   100   1385     0     1     0
|>    5  Andy Jones            10/05/92      3   100   1352     0     3     0
|>    6  Don Burgess           12/06/92      8   100   1359     2     6     0
|>    7  Kevin Lambrecht       10/29/92      2   100   1369     0     2     0
|>    8  Tom Lee               12/08/92     10   100   1531     9     0     1
|>    9  Juan Jackson          11/15/92      2   100   1420     1     0     1
|>   10  Edwin Neal            11/06/92      1   100   1386     0     1     0
|>   11  George Rita ii        11/10/92      1   100   1385     0     1     0
|>   12  Ted Panos             11/13/92      1   100   1387     0     1     0
|>   13  Al Yard               11/23/92      1   100   1387     0     1     0
|>   14  Jay Ward              12/03/92      1   100   1418     1     0     0
|>   15  Sol Steinberg         12/06/92      1   100   1388     0     1     0
|> ---
|>  . Cam-Mail . The Chess Board BBS 803-236-7711 : Myrtle Beach, SC
|>                                                                                                              
Who are these people and why is this junk here ?????
From: dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: A game of chess with dmc!?
Date: 1 Jan 93 13:38:59 EST
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <1992Dec31.171149.25529@galileo.physics.arizona.edu>, seh@neutron.physics.arizona.edu (Steven E. Hoell) writes:
> In addition to the plane fare and loser-leave-net
> conditions, the stakes should include a bad haircut
> for the loser (as is often done in professional
> wrestling).
> 
> A recent issue of _Chess Chow_ ran a picture of
> Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake on the cover.
> Good work, Mark!
> 
> 
> 
> Seasons Beatings,
> 
> Steve Hoell		seh@neutron.physics.arizona.edu

Well, I could agree with that condition. My girlfriend is always complaining
that my barber gives me a bad haircut. (Of course, she is just pissed that I go
to a barber instead of a 'stylist', and I get it cut short.)



Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: renglish@cello.hpl.hp.com (Bob English)
Subject: Re: The Serbs are free to imprison or kill Fischer
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:25:53 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard Labs

dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
: So as long as someone is warned, whether the warning is just or not, the
: person deserves what they get when they don't heed the warning?

So if someone were to warn you that you would be killed if you posted
another message, you would deserve to be killed?

--bob--
From: colby@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Kenneth Colby)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Gruenfeld Exchange
Date: 27 Dec 92 20:04:30 GMT
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department

Thanx for the info about 13...h5. I've tried it a few times on
the Chess Machine and it seems ok for 5-6 moves (White +0.39).
			     Ken Colby
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: ekw@world.std.com (Elliott C Winslow)
Subject: Re: US Championship FINAL CROSSTABLE
Summary: Corrected (and with titles)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 02:42:03 GMT

US Championship
Durango, Colorado
2-19 December, 1992
                          1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6
1  GM Wolff,Patrick       x 0 = = = = 1 1 0 = 1 1 1 1 1 1  10.5
2  GM Gulko,Boris         1 x = = 0 1 = 1 = = 1 = = 1 = 1  10
3  IM Sherzer,Alex        = = x = 0 0 1 = = = 1 1 1 1 1 1  10
4  GM Seirawan,Yasser     = = = x 1 1 = = 1 = = 0 = = = 1  9
5  GM Gurevich,Dmitry     = 1 1 0 x 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 = = 1 =  9
6  GM Fedorowicz,John     = 0 1 0 0 x 0 = = = 1 1 = 1 1 1  8.5
7  GM Yermolinsky,Alex    0 = 0 = 1 1 x = = = 1 0 = = 1 =  8
8  GM Benjamin,Joel       0 0 = = 0 = = x 0 = = 1 1 1 1 1  8
9  IM Gurevich,Ilya       1 = = 0 0 = = 1 x = 0 0 1 = 1 1  8
10 GM Dzindzichashvili,R  = = = = 1 = = = = x 0 = = = 0 1  7.5
11 GM Browne,Walter       0 0 0 = 1 0 0 = 1 1 x = 1 = 0 1  7
12 GM Ivanov,Alexander    0 = 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 = = x 0 = 1 1  7
13 IM Rachels,Stuart      0 = 0 = = = = 0 0 = 0 1 x 1 = 1  6.5
14 IM Ivanov,Igor         0 0 0 = = 0 = 0 = = = = 0 x = 1  5
15    Men,Boris           0 = 0 = 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 = = x 1  5
16 IM Shirazi,Kamran      0 0 0 0 = 0 = 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 x  1

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