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Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Tuesday, 8 Dec 1992 16:57:56 EST
From: <ADMN8684@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: ST-II

I am looking for as much information as possible on ST-II protocol.
I have RFC1190 and I want more. In particular I want an operating
system that implements ST-II. Does anybody have one ? I need this
for a multimedia system we are building.
Thanks
West Suhanic, (416) 979-5000, ext 7420
Email: ADMN8684@RYEVM.RYERSON.CA

Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: sugai@ccs.mt.nec.co.jp (Masaru Sugai)
Subject: Re: Video for Windows?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:59:34 GMT
Organization: NEC Corporation, Tokyo

In article <24362@galaxy.ucr.edu> rhyde@picard.ucr.edu (randy hyde) writes:
>It's easy to get 10 fps playback from MPEG *if you have the right source
>material*.  It's also hard to get beyond 3-4 fps if you have bad source
>material.  I've just about completed 100 hours of measurements on Apple's
>compact video format and I can tell you that the source material makes
>a *big* difference in compression ratios, data transfer rates, data
>decompression, etc.  A stable background with only a little movement
>works much better with these codecs than, say, panning or zooming the
>camera.  Of course, MPEG won't be of too much use to most of us until
>the hardware codecs come along.

I strongly agree with you. I wish there were some standard data set
available which enable us to make fair comparisons among touted products
in the market.  I would like to hear from MPEG people on this issue.

- Masaru Sugai,	NEC Corporation, Japan
-- 
Masaru Sugai   NEC Corporation Tokyo Japan
   sugai@ccs.mt.nec.co.jp, masaru@world.std.com
From: Jim.Matthews@dartmouth.edu (Jim Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: Convert Quicktime -> VfW?
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:30:42 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University writes
> In article <1992Dec16.135136.16878@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>,  
rkl@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (kevin.laux) writes:
> >
> > 	If you purchased a copy of Video for Windows, you would have both
> > the AVI clips (over 200 on the CD-ROM), as well as the Quicktime to  
VfW
> > converter.
> 
> Interesting. Do you know which compression formats this converter will  
handle?
> Will it take the Compact Video compression in QuickTime 1.5?

Another question: does the VfW converter just expand the movies on the Mac  
(using QuickTime codecs) and compress them with its own algorithms?  If  
that's the case it could handle any format supported by QuickTime, but I  
wonder how the re-compression process would affect quality.

Jim Matthews
Dartmouth Software Development
From: 2719weberj@vms.csd.mu.edu (Joe Weber)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: V4W, MS-SS
Date: 15 Dec 92 04:28:03 GMT
Reply-To: 2719weberj@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

Well, at least MS for video is out because we got our copy in last
wednesday...I haven't played with it too much, but so far it is
kinda cool.

In article <1992Dec13.145543.2231@cs.tu-berlin.de>, dimento@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Christian Moskal) writes:
>Hallo,
>
>I wondered if the 'MS Sound System' and 'MS Video for Windows' were available
>in the states yet. In Germany they won't be released until early next year
>but since I am eager to get my hands on them, could anyone be so kind to pro-
>vide me with vendors' addresses who have both in stock? The designated vendor
>should accept credit cards and international orders. I would also need their
>fax# as well as their 800# if available :)
>
From: J.Crowcroft@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Jon Crowcroft)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: MICE project
Date: 18 Dec 92 11:54:24 GMT


sorry to cross post, but we want you to know:

                          MICE


Esprit Project 7602, Multimedia International Conferencing for
European Researchers (MICE), commenced work on 1 December 1992.
The major objectives of the project are:

o       To provide appropriate multi-media, multi-party
        conferencing facilities to research workers in Europe,
        with links to North America; these to be provided
        across disciplines and ideally, usable by any research
        worker.

o       To design these facilities to interwork with those
        already deployed for other projects in the research
        community.

o       To provide the facilities in a form that would be
        appropriate to complement multi-party meetings so
        that one emphasis will be on conference rooms;
        workstations with reduced facilities will also be
        embraced.  In both cases the facilities provided will
        include shared workspace use of workstations as well
        as video-conferencing.

o       To design the facilities to be deployable with minimal
        expenditure on communications and minimal delay, thus
        precluding the provision of a separate communications
        network.

o       To use the emerging European infrastructure of international
        connections between National Packet Switched Networks (Europanet
        and EBONE inside Europe, and the different links to the US
        from Europe)

The project is planned for completion in 12 months. It will
consist of three overlapping phases: definition, trials and
evaluation. During the definition phase, a multimedia
conferencing reference architecture will be defined; thereafter
the exact facilities to be provided in conferencing rooms,
conferencing workstations and a Conference Multiplexing and
Management Centre will be specified.

During the trials phase, the facilities of all three areas will
be improved progressively and put into limited service. During
the evaluation phase, the strengths and weaknesses of the
facilities will be assessed, forecasts will be made on the
timing of more economic equipment and more appropriate
algorithms, and recommendations will be made for the deployment
of an operational system. The timescale is only achievable,
within the limited effort proposed, because the project will be
based heavily on existing developments funded under other
programmes.

The MICE consortium includes the following partners: UCL
(prime contractor), Stuttgart U, INRIA, U of Oslo, ONERA,
SICS, GMD, Nottingham U, ULB/VUB, NTR.


It is intended that the initial four sites should be connected
within the first four months of the project.
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From: aj923@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (P. J. Remner)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: MOD -> WAV....?
Date: 18 Dec 1992 22:44:25 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aj923@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (P. J. Remner)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, tlilley@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Tripp Lilley) says:

>Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>>  
>> Can I convert these to the .WAV and .MID files that MMPM/2 plays?
>
>  the big problem here is as follows (in brief):  
>
>[very informative explaination deleted)
>
>hope it helps, flames/corrections to any ignorance herein welcomed...
>

Okay, so it seems that .MOD to waveform is out of the question, except
for those of us that use fileservers, so the next question is: Is there
a .MOD player for Windows, or a .MOD to MIDI converter?

-- 
aj923@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Read the bleedin' message header) / Movie dialogue
  "What... is the average airspeed of an unladen swallow?"    / taken surrep-
  "Is that a European or an African swallow?"                / titiously from
  "Well, I don't... YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!"     / "The Holy Grail"
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: oep@colargol.edb.tih.no (oep)
Subject: Re: Resolution
Organization: Colargol, Trondheim College of Engineering
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 18:48:54 GMT

Thanx for the information.

Does anyone have similar specs for PAL, or somthing else that 
tells the difference between NTSC and PAL.

- oep

Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: mac9067@cs.rit.edu (Mark Collien)
Subject: Re: QuickTime 1.5 XCMD bug?
Followup-To: comp.multimedia,comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:00:53 GMT

In article <1g8adsINNbaj@calvin.usc.edu>, alves@calvin.usc.edu (William
Alves) wrote:
> 
> Since I have switched to QuickTime 1.5, I have experienced an unexpected
> result in a HyperCard stack that uses the QTMovie xcmd. Sometimes a
> controller bar will appear under the movie, even when I explicitly tell
> the xcmd NOT to display the controller. I saw this in someone's Super-
> Card demo today, so I think I may not be alone. Does anyone else know
> the source of this problem? Are there new versions of the QuickTime
> xcmds? Thanks.
> 
> Bill Alves

I have noticed this also.  It happens only when I play back movies directly
to the screen rather than to a window.

If this controller that appeared actually functioned I might not mind so
much.

You can get rid of it by refreshing the screen after calling the xcmd, but
it still appears briefly when the movie initially appears on the screen.

This is with the Apple QTMovie XCMD.


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Interactive Media Laboratory
Rochester Institute of Technology
mac9067@cs.rit.edu  -or-  mac9067@ritvax.bitnet
716.475.6625
716.475.5804 fax
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: metsamak@convex.csc.FI (Markku Mets{m{ki)
Subject: AVI sites
Keywords: AVI, Video for Windows, FTP
Organization: Finnish Academic and Research Network Project - FUNET
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 09:57:33 GMT

Are there any sites with AVI-files (the format Video for Windows uses)?
I am getting tired of watching the WINDSURF.AVI-clip so I would like to
FTP some more.

Thanks,
Markku

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From: paul@taniwha.UUCP (Paul Campbell)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: Video (from hard disk) to screen
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:50:32 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Taniwha Systems Design

In article <SUHONEN.92Dec7104750@jalka.jyu.fi> suhonen@jalka.jyu.fi (Timo Suhonen) writes:
>
>Hi!
>
>I'm looking for a way to pack digitized video frames to hard disk and
>further to show those packed files on screen (several pictures in second).

>I have hardware to digitize video (a SGI 4D/310GTX with VideoLab) and I can
>digitize video frame by frame. What is the best way to pack this information
>to disk? The things we really need are:

>Time for digitizing is irrelevant (less than 3 days would be nice). Number
>of video frames to be digitized at time is something like 750 - 1000.

>First I thought about Mpeg, but then I heard, that it only supports 320 x 240
>pixels. We can't go to so low resolution ('cause we need those pictures for
>an analyse, too).

Buy a SuperMac 'Digital Film' board for a Macintosh (and get a fast CPU and
a fast disk). This board will digitize/compress in realtime to disk and play
back in real time, data is stored in JPEG format (no interframe). It's
available today, costs ~$6000 and supports NTSC or PAL full screen (no pixel or
line doubling) at full frame rates. Output is either RGB (for a 13"/17"
computer grade monitor) or NTSC/PAL, either S-video or composite. The board
also does sound, it comes bundled with the Adobe Premier 2.0 video editor.

	Paul

Disclaimer: I work for SuperMac, I'm probably biased, I don't work on the
digital video team so I may be off on some of the specs etc etc check it
out for yourself, have a dealer show you one and try it for real

-- 
Paul Campbell    UUCP: ..!mtxinu!taniwha!paul     AppleLink: CAMPBELL.P
Use up your Quayle jokes now while they're still good "Quayle for Pres. in '94"
     Q: Why is Marilyn Quayle like Marion Barry?
     A: They both suck a little dope.
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: fs8j@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Fraser Street)
Subject: Intel AVSS file standard question
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:24:34 GMT

Greetings:

I am doing some development programming with Fluent Inc. 
multimedia boards and the associated MS-Windows software 
called Fluent Streams.  The Fluent Streams software writes
motion JPEG audio/video streams onto disk in a format based
on the Intel AVSS standard.  I'm trying to track down the 
specification for AVSS.  A search of the Internet with 
ARCHIE turned up nothing.

If you have any information about the availablilty of the 
AVSS spec (FTP sites / person-to-person contact with Intel)
I would like to hear from you.

Thanks in advance!

Fraser

-- 

Fraser Street
fraser@Virginia.EDU
University of Virginia
Computer Networks Laboratory

Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: cs902125@ariel.yorku.ca (SHUK C YIP)
Subject: Re: Real 3D ...just forget about that whimpy 3d thing you have! : )
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 06:32:15 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.224709.7603@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> nwickham@nyx.UUCP (Neal Wickham) writes:
>
>The author demoed Real 3D 2.0 in a recent exhibition here in Finland and the
>product looked very impressive compared to current Imagine and Real 3D
>versions at least.
>
>Here are some of the most original features:
>- everything seems to be configurable. If you like Caligari-type interface,
>  you can have it. If you want to have 7 windows looking at your work from
>  various angles, you can have it. All menus, tool gadgets & screens are
>  part of this saveable 'environment'.

Really? We can have Caligari-type interface!? I bought Caligari just
because of its best moduler interface. (another functions are weak when
compare with the others 3D rendering package)
From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: Saving Quicktime movies in Hypercard/Supercard stacks?
Date: 16 Dec 92 13:50:52 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <josteisv.109.724387080@dhhalden.no>, josteisv@dhhalden.no (JOSTEIN SVENDSEN) writes:
> In article <1992Dec14.094710.12758@waikato.ac.nz> ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University) writes:
>>From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
>>Subject: Re: Saving Quicktime movies in Hypercard/Supercard stacks?
>>Date: 14 Dec 92 09:47:10 +1300
>>In article <josteisv.103.724050695@dhhalden.no>, josteisv@dhhalden.no (JOSTEIN SVENDSEN) writes:
>>> We are using the QT Movie XCMDs to play Quicktime movies in Hypercard and
>>> Supercard. But we haven't been able to include the movies in the stack.
>>
>>It seems to me you should be able to put "moov" resources into your stack, but
>>not the actual movie data. I can describe a procedure for you to try if you're
>>interested, but is it really worth it?
>
> Yes, I think so. Most stacks we make should be possible to distribute. But
> it's difficult when we don't know the path to the films "at playtime" when
> we make the stacks. Now, the stack must ask the user to locate the films
> before playing.

Putting movie resources into the stack isn't going to help this, that I can
see. Even with the "moov" resource in the stack, you'll still have to find
the movie data file. What kind of error message does QTMovie return if it
fails to resolve a movie alias?

Actually I was thinking it *might* be possible to append the movie data onto
the end of the stack itself, but a) that would require a special utility to
do it and b) you would destroy the movie, and possibly the stack as well, if
you tried to make any further changes to the stack.

> 1. We have thought about putting "moov" recources into HC stacks, but we
>    don't know how to pass the path to the QT Movie XCMD.

How about using "the long name of this stack"? This returns a string like

	stack "My HD:Experimental Folder:Look at this neat stack"

The quick-and-nasty way of getting the pathname without the quotes is to
use the expression "the value of word 2 of the long name of this stack".
The main thing I can think of that could cause this expression to fail
is if your pathname contains quotes in it somewhere.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: +64-7-856-2889
Computer Services Dept                     fax: +64-7-838-4066
University of Waikato            electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+13:00
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: root@shawn.uucp (Mark Jeghers -- UNIX/X/Motif Contractor)
Subject: How is CD-Audio handled in MM, and particularly in MPC ?
Reply-To: root@shawn.uucp (Mark Jeghers -- UNIX/X/Motif Contractor)
Organization: Mark Jeghers -- UNIX/X/Motif Contractor
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 08:08:54 GMT

Are audio clips generally driven by audio files, or does some 
audio tracks get played directly from the CD player?  If direct
from the CD player, would there be some particular cabling
arrangement between, say, the CD audio and a soundcard?  Is
there typically any integration of the two (e.g. to sample some
audio from the CD, etc) ?

Pardon the ignorance in my questions, it's the only way to learn
sometimes... :-)

Thanx,

Mark Jeghers
408/281-4823 [voicemail]

Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: josteisv@dhhalden.no (JOSTEIN SVENDSEN)
Subject: Re: Saving Quicktime movies in Hypercard/Supercard stacks?
Keywords: Quicktime, Hypercard, Supercard
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:38:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.094710.12758@waikato.ac.nz> ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University) writes:
>From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
>Subject: Re: Saving Quicktime movies in Hypercard/Supercard stacks?
>Date: 14 Dec 92 09:47:10 +1300
>In article <josteisv.103.724050695@dhhalden.no>, josteisv@dhhalden.no (JOSTEIN SVENDSEN) writes:
>> We are using the QT Movie XCMDs to play Quicktime movies in Hypercard and
>> Supercard. But we haven't been able to include the movies in the stack.
>
>It seems to me you should be able to put "moov" resources into your stack, but
>not the actual movie data. I can describe a procedure for you to try if you're
>interested, but is it really worth it?

Yes, I think so. Most stacks we make should be possible to distribute. But 
it's difficult when we don't know the path to the films "at playtime" when 
we make the stacks. Now, the stack must ask the user to locate the films 
before playing.

Two problems:
1. We have thought about putting "moov" recources into HC stacks, but we 
   don't know how to pass the path to the QT Movie XCMD.

2. We can't include "moov" resources in SuperCard, or...

I have got several mail from people interested in finding a solution to 
this, so I hope we can find one.

Jostein :-)

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Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: kcc@pt.com (Kevin Chalker)
Subject: Advice on Media Visions Upgrade Kit 16
Organization: Performance Technologies, Incorporated
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:00:10 GMT


Hi,
  I am looking for advice on the MPC Upgrade 16 kit from Media Vision
which includes the ProAudio 16 sound card and an NEC SCSI multi-spin 
CD-ROM.

1)  Is the CD-ROM internal or external?  CDR84 or 74?
2)  Is everything included for the MIDI portion so that it can talk
	to external keyboards, etc.?
3)  Are all SCSI cables, interface, etc. included?
4)  Do speakers come with it?  If not, which do you recommend?

Thanks in advance and if you have any other suggestions on different
multi-media kits to buy, please let me know.  

Kevin
kcc@pt.com
From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: Saving Quicktime movies in Hypercard/Supercard stacks?
Date: 14 Dec 92 09:47:10 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <josteisv.103.724050695@dhhalden.no>, josteisv@dhhalden.no (JOSTEIN SVENDSEN) writes:
> We are using the QT Movie XCMDs to play Quicktime movies in Hypercard and
> Supercard. But we haven't been able to include the movies in the stack.

It seems to me you should be able to put "moov" resources into your stack, but
not the actual movie data. I can describe a procedure for you to try if you're
interested, but is it really worth it?

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: +64-7-856-2889
Computer Services Dept                     fax: +64-7-838-4066
University of Waikato            electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+13:00
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: paulg@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Paul Gittings)
Subject: Re: Are there any Multimedia magazines?
Originator: paulg@sydrd19
Organization: Telectronics Pacing Systems
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 00:30:00 GMT


In article <1gj556INNk03@crcnis1.unl.edu>, makis@helios.unl.edu (Makis Maroulis) writes:
> Hi everybody.
> 
> I'm not very familiar with the subject, however a friend of mine(from abroad)
> asked me to send him, managines that are specialized in multimedia. He also
> mentioned that he doesn't want something like PC-Magazine,PC-World and such.

[stuff deleted]

Well in November a new magazine started down here in Oz called "Australian 
Multimedia". The first issue was a bit thin and is IMO aimed at the end user.
They plan on covering Apple Mac, PCs, Amiga and CDTV (no CD-I in Oz ??).
The first issue cost AUS#3.95 for around 40 pages (a year sub is AUS#35).
It is published by "Windows Solutios Publishing Pty Ltd, Upper Level, Hamilton
House, 1 Station St, P.O. Box 59, Moorabbin, Victoria 3189, Australia.

I have no connection with the magazine or the publishers.

Cheers,
Paul Gittings
Telectronics Pacing Systems- 7 Sirius Rd, Lane Cove, NSW 2066, Australia
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
   _              | paulg@tplrd.tpl.oz.au OR paulg@tps.com
_ // Amiga users  | 61-2-4136963 (voice: work)----------------------------
\X/ make it happen| 61-2-4136868 (fax)        |A Welsh/Canadian/Australian
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No matter how much I beg, Telectronics will not allow me to express any
opinions on its behalf.
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: josteisv@dhhalden.no (JOSTEIN SVENDSEN)
Subject: Re: Saving Quicktime movies in Hypercard/Supercard stacks?
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:11:45 GMT

Now we have discovered an easy way to fix the problem. I had overlooked 
that it was possible to include only the filename as long as the movie is in 
the same folder as the stack.

Easier than we thought!!!?

Jostein :-)

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From: stan.king@filebank.cts.com (Stan King) 
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: Video for Windows
Date: 11 Dec 92 16:28:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The File Bank BBS - Fallbrook, CA  619-728-4318
Reply-To: stan.king@filebank.cts.com (Stan King) 

DK> ***AVI files Wanted***
DK>Can anyone out there tell me where can I get more AVI files? FTP Site will
DK>be nice. Thanks!

  Call Compton's NewMedia at 619-929-2626.  They just released a
multimedia history of Jazz and the Compton't Interactive Encyclopedia.
Both use .avi's.  I really like the .avi of Louis Armstrong when he was
about 20 or so......

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