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From: Mark.Cornick@launchpad.unc.edu (Mark Cornick)
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Re: Dischord
Date: 12 Nov 92 07:17:45 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1992Nov12.050754.21925@samba.oit.unc.edu> Mark.Cornick@launchpad.unc.edu (Mark Cornick) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.025622.4240@vela.acs.oakland.edu> jjbaron@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Jeff Baron) writes:
>>I have sent for a Dischord catalog a number of times and on the
>>back is always a small note written by, if i remember correctly,
>>"Joe and Amy".  Who are they in relation to Dischord, owners perhaps?
>>Just wondering.
>
>Joe and Amy are Dischord's mail order people. Amy is Amy Pickering, who's
>been on a lot of old Dischord records (she sings.) I've forgotten who Joe
>is right now. Also, Kim Coleatta from Jawbox works in the
>radio-promotional area for Dischord. They don't own Dischord (Ian does)
>but just put in many hours servicing your consumer needs (grin) Seriously,
>whenever you order anything, you always get a personal note from Joe and
>Amy, which is a nice touch. Other DC labels, like TeenBeat and Simple
>Machines, do this too. Must be something in the water :)

SUPERGROVER catches a mistake:

>I think you meant to say "Jay and Amy."

Right, Jay and Amy. Freudian slip. Or I was just reading what was on the
screen. :) I believe Jay is in Jawbox as well, if I remember right...
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From: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Subject: Re: Punk Rock TV
Originator: tphailey@c00478-224wi.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:11:57 GMT


>carl
>haynes@mace.cc.purdue.edu
>
>Cool bands: Zero Boys, die kreuzen, necros, angry samoans, legal weapon
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^

Oh definitely! die kreuzen are one of my all time faves. I hate that they 
broke up. I like all their stuff from the extreme hardcare days to the 
melodic more metallish stuff. They are always amazing, but so 
underrated that I though no one would ever mention them. Points for you.

TOMASS
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: good hardcore bands
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 18:54:45 GMT


I remember when I first purchased "Not So Quiet On The Western
Front," the Maximum R n R compilation about 10 years ago. Sounded
like a lotta noise, but somehow I kept listening, and it started
to grow on me. I know I'm probably an outta touch old fart, but
my favorite hardcore bands are still the DKs, Flipper (more
like grunge punk, I guess), DOA, Circle Jerks and maybe Minor
Threat. Flipper is the only one still playing, I think, maybe
Circle Jerks. But y'know, I love going to basically any hardcore
show, hearing the 1-2-3-4 click of the drumsticks, and lettin'
loose! 

Bill

"Now it is 1992
 George Bush took it up the wazoo!
 
 Scram with your rhetoric and bullshit talk
 You're washed up now take a walk"
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: braca2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (BRAY CHRISTOPHER)
Subject: MANTISSA
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:32:45 GMT

This is similar to what I posted to r.m.i.

but if anyone has listened to Mantissa's latest album can they tell
me if there is a track on it that sounds very very very very much like
soundgardens riffs and such, mainly from their album Badmotorfinger.

The Mantissa album is Mossy God.

ta


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Think with your head, vote with your feet;  Plan Globally, attack locally
From: tomek@maple.circa.ufl.edu (Tomasz Mazur)
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: D.O.A.
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:52:02 GMT
Reply-To: tomek@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida - CIRCA

Has anyone heard the new D.O.A. album? Is it any good?

Tomek
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From: tl24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Tami  Luhby)
Subject: Pailhead? 
Reply-To: tl24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Tami  Luhby)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:22:50 GMT


Just occured to me.  Why would Ian McKaye, bastion of straightedgism, put out
a record with Al Jourgenson, who's done every drug on the face of the planet?

-tl24
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: jflee@hubcap.clemson.edu (finley lee)
Subject: Re: any net bands?
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:13:44 GMT

jamess@Ingres.COM (James Stanley) writes:

>In article <LANCER.92Nov5140512@rajeesh.WPI.EDU>, lancer@rajeesh.WPI.EDU (Steph writes...
>> 
>>Ok, let's kick this off with a bang (and not a flamewar about what is
>>hardcore).
>> 
>>Are there any bands out there?  I, for one, would love to share
>>performing experiences/tapes/whatever with people who like my kind of
>>music... 
>> 
>I played in a band in San Diego called Helicopter for about 4 years.  We broke
>up in January but our posthumous CD should be out in a couple of months on 
>Cargo records.  Cargo puts out a lot of San Diego bands, most of them influenced
>in some way or other by punk or hc, at least as an ethic....Drive Like Jehu, 
>				Jim Stanley
>				jamess@ingres.com

I play in a band called One3Four in Clemson, South Carolina.  We have
found the South to be difficult, because there aren't many places to
play.  However, crowds are *great* when we do play.  We opened up for
Corrosion of Conformity a couple of weeks ago, and we are playing with
the Jesus Lizard on November 29 in Columbia, SC. 

One3Four plays fairly complicated punk.  We are loud and fast, and we
love a nice clean sound.

We also have a single coming out in about a week, on the local Spinning
Mule records label.  There will also be a 30-40 minute One3Four video
combining One3Four music with video from local filmmakers.  I haven't
seen it yet, but it's supposed to be good.

I will post the complete information on the releases when they come out.
If anyone wants more info, just e-mail me.

- Finley
I would also like to hear about anyones band experiences in the
punk/hardcore area.
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: margan@yale.edu (Shiva)
Subject: Real hardcore...so deal
Followup-To: alt.music.hardcore
Organization: Computing & Information Systems, Yale University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 08:23:32 GMT

Minor Threat and Seven Seconds.

Enough said.

Don't give me any of this metal (even death) shit...
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: nava@ecf.toronto.edu (NAVA ALEXANDER)
Subject: Jackal
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:19:35 GMT

Anybody here this band called Jackal?  I listen to the radio a lot and I heard this song that o
a lot and heard this song that had this massive kick to it.
The song was done by Jackal.  Anybody out there tell me 
about them?

alex nava
nava@ecf.toronto.edu

Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Date: Sat,  7 Nov 1992 18:40:31 -0500 
From: "Cynthia M. Lambert" <cl3v+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: True hardcorre
	<92311.190550IO20557@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Distribution: world


To the guy who asked about S.O.I.A. and the Cro-Mags:

I don't think this will really help you out, but the Cro-Mags are
playing with Sick of it All in Pittsburgh on November 19 (I think it's
the nineteeth-it's on a Thursday) and they played a show together in NYC
about 2-3 weeks ago, so they are touring around the east, so keep your
eyes open!
From: 6anthony_m@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Re: What is Hardcore????
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:33:18 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <1992Nov12.155738.29825@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>, wc8376@writer.yorku.ca (Theodore Wong) writes:
> In article <1992Nov11.191653.4385@spcvxb.spc.edu> 6anthony_m@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
>>
>>Well occasional drug use does not cloud your mind, I can still think clearly 
>>anyway.  I just think its a good way to escape from everyday life now and then. 
>> You guys are gonna honestly tell me you never drink/get wasted?
> 
> As a straight-edger, I'd have to say that I don't drink or get wasted.
> I suppose there's nothing really *wrong* with using substances
> occasionally; it's just something that I don't enjoy and therefore
> don't do.  Anyway, why would you want to escape from life?  It doesn't
> make your problems go away . . .

No, but it does let you forget them for awhile.  Which I find very helpful, 
especially around election time.  

> 
> Basically, I couldn't really care less what people want to do to
> themselves but I do draw the line with smoking.  There are tens of
> thousands of smoking related deaths each year so why take us
> non-smokers to the grave with you?  Show some consideration next time
> you're in a room with lots of people in it!!

Huh?  WHo said I smoke ciggarettes?  And, as for that second hand smoke crap,
there was just a big discussion on the punk mailing list about this, and it
has come to my attention that lots of other countries have more smokers, but 
less smoking related deaths...



> 
> ted



The Fiend  
"This society makes me sick, I'd like to give it a big kick!"
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From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Re: Jello Biafra
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 17:27:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.165451.22717@EE.Stanford.EDU> bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore) writes:
>
>Y'all are reactivating missing parts of my memory :-)
>
>What was the Jello movie where he comes on (at the end, I think)
>as a cop of some kind and busts some rock and rollers? Maybe
>says something about not having to read rights and/or a Tipper
>Gore comment? 

Sheesh, my memory's coming back faster than expected!
It's a Franken and Davis movie called One More Saturday
Night, I'm pretty sure.

Bill
>
From: ulma@coli.uni-sb.de (Ulrich Mayring)
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Re: bad religion
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:52:49 GMT
Organization: U of Saarbruecken, Dept. of Computational Linguistics

tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY) writes:


>   There's been a recent thread of Bad Religion talk and I just want to set 
>some things straight. Greg Graffin is hardly a professor. He is a grad student 
>and all you collegiate punks should know the difference. He teaches some 
>classes, mainly labs. Hell, I could teach a Pascal lab here at NCSU and I'm
>only a sophomore. A lot of this stuff I already knew, but it's recently been 
>confirmed by someone at Cornell where Greg attends school. From what I hear, 
>Greg is pretty egotistical about himself, the band, and other things right down
>to his big pick up truck. He's also supposedly patronizing of a lot of punks.
>This is something I do not need. Bad Religion as a band are really great, but
>I think their individual personalities have been elevated to standards they
>don't quite meet. Sure, Greg may be reasonably intelligent, but it's really
>Mr. Brett who writes most of the lyrics. Remember, their just people like you
>and me.

Well I don't know Greg and I don't know anyone who does. But I know envy.
And it may or may not apply here, but let me quote from the song "No
direction" by Bad Religion:

I don't believe in self-important folks who preach,
no BAD RELIGION song can make your life complete.
...
Prepare for rejection, you'll get no direction from me.


Doesn't sound like Mr. Superstar to me.

Another thing: Why would someone in a band like BR still go to College? And,
why would he have the time to? Don't they ever do world tours? I don't, and
I don't have time to go to classes :-)


     Ulrich Mayring

       - Im liberalen Sinne heisst liberal nicht nur liberal -
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From: haynes@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Carl W. Haynes III)
Subject: Punk Rock TV
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:54:11 GMT

Anyone remember the cool tv shows that had punk rock episodes? 
I remember Quincy and CHiPs both had evil punk rockers
terrorizing the public, I always watch the re-runs to see the
episodes, but have never seen them since their original
airing. Any other shows have punk rock episodes?

Hour magazine also had a great three part special about
Parents of Punkers (remember them) that saved their violent
punk rock children from a life of violence.

carl
haynes@mace.cc.purdue.edu

Cool bands: Zero Boys, die kreuzen, necros, angry samoans, legal weapon

Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: jjbaron@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Jeff Baron)
Subject: Re: What is Hardcore????
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:47:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.062328.15784@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> wc8376@writer.yorku.ca (Theodore Wong) writes:
>In article <92314.145153ADB103@psuvm.psu.edu> ADB103@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

>the U.S. the pioneers were bands like Minor Threat and Black Flag.  In
>Canada, they were the Subhumans and D.O.A.  Finland had Rattus and
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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From: pauls@tellabs.com (Paul Silver)
Subject: Re: Jello Biafra
Organization: Tellabs, Lisle,IL
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:37:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.172734.24231@EE.Stanford.EDU> bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore) writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.165451.22717@EE.Stanford.EDU> bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore) writes:
>>
>>Y'all are reactivating missing parts of my memory :-)
>>
>>What was the Jello movie where he comes on (at the end, I think)
>>as a cop of some kind and busts some rock and rollers? Maybe
>>says something about not having to read rights and/or a Tipper
>>Gore comment? 
>
>Sheesh, my memory's coming back faster than expected!
>It's a Franken and Davis movie called One More Saturday
>Night, I'm pretty sure.

*---------------*

As I recall, it was _Tapeheads_.  He is a cop who shows up at
the end of the film and arrests the two heroes, and says something
such as, "Remember what they did to Jello Biafra" (they are being
arrested for sending out "pornographic" material over the airwaves).

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From: galt%peruvian.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Greg Alt)
Subject: Jello Biafra 
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:05:07 MST
Followup-To: alt.music.hardcore
Reply-To: galt%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu
Organization: University of Utah, CS Dept., Salt Lake City

I was wondering if I have everything by Jello Biafra.
Here's a list, is there anything else?

Dead Kennedys:
Plastic Surgery Disasters
Bedtime for Democracy
Frankenchrist
In God We Trust, Inc.
Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables
Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death

Spoken word:
No more Coccoons
High Priest of Harmful Matter
(and one other)

Lard:
The Power of Lard
(and one other)

Other:
one with DOA
and one with Nomeansno
From: dbucher@ocf.berkeley.edu (Daniel Bucher)
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: hardcore
Date: 7 Nov 1992 10:06:04 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: maelstrom.berkeley.edu

Hi, I hope that this is the right newsgroup for this question, if not
will somebody please forward this.

i am looking for a copy of "Hardcore Disco" by Disco Tex and the Sex-o-lettes.
Or actually, any vinyl with a recording of the song "Love you baby Ooooh Yeah".
I know that it's on "Hardcore Disco" but I think it might be on another too.

Thanks
-dan

P.S. I think it's great that you guys started a whole group just to discuss 
Hardcore Disco.

Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: jjbaron@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Jeff Baron)
Subject: Re: Pailhead? 
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:34:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.185134.13377@athena.mit.edu> juggle@athena.mit.edu (???) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.032250.6487@news.columbia.edu> tl24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Tami  Luhby) writes:

>If Ian were *that* anal about drug use then he would never be able to do 
>shows, because you just *know* that there are drug users in the audience.  
>

I have the Minor Threat Live VHS tape and just before they begin
their set, Ian says something to the audience like "...enough smoking
dope..."  But, like someone said previously, he was about 19 at the time
and has probably since changed his view.
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From: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Subject: Re: Extreme Noise Terror?
Originator: tphailey@c00005-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:46:09 GMT


>Anyway, what records are available from ENT?  I was going to get the
>Holocaust in Your Head import from Blacklist Mailorder, but they quit
>stocking it.  My record store can only get the peel sessions.  Are those
>any good?  What is their best record?  All I've heard is the Punk's Not
>Dread comp, but don't really expect 'em to sound exactly like that. I'd
>appreciate any information.   Thanks (I hope) in advance...
>
>Chad Mattingly (rest of sig deleted)

The peel sessions are pretty good. I haven't heard the "Punk's Not Dread" so I 
can't really tell you how the songs compare, but if you like brutal guitars
and a lot of screeching, then the peel sessions are for you. But there are no
lyrics included so you won't have any earthly idea of what they're saying
which sucks because they're a pretty political band and it would be nice to
know what they are trying to get across. But aside from that, it's a decent
recording.

TOMASS
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Subject: Re: FFUUUUCCKK!!! It's here!!
Originator: tphailey@c00005-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:10:57 GMT


>Any reviews on _Duct Tape Soup_? 
>
>RedDog

_Duct_Tape_Soup_  just flat out rules. Nothing else to say on the matter.

now, IMHO, best fucken bands in the world:

Jawbreaker
J Church
Crimpshrine
Cringer
Green Day
Negativland
Operation Ivy
Monsula
Filth
Assuck

and I'm sure there's more

TOMASS
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From: wc8376@writer.yorku.ca (Theodore Wong)
Subject: Re: What is Hardcore????
Organization: Computer Assisted Writing Centre, York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:34:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.133318.4406@spcvxb.spc.edu>6anthony_m@spcvxb.spc>>
 
>Huh?  WHo said I smoke ciggarettes?  And, as for that second hand smoke crap,
>there was just a big discussion on the punk mailing list about this, and it
>has come to my attention that lots of other countries have more smokers, but 
>less smoking related deaths...

Sorry, it wasn't meant to be an accusation; I just went a little too
far, I guess.  By the way, thanks for letting me know that I have a
better chance of dying of second-hand smoke here than in other
countries.  Maybe I ought to move?

ted
From: cpluis@cats.ucsc.edu (Mulatto)
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: bad religion
Date: 8 Nov 1992 21:25:47 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
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I think that Bad Religion is the greatest punk band ever, I mean in terms
of lyric wise.  Im think that for a professor to teach at a university and
tour around the world and telling what the fuck is going on is just fuckin
great.
---------------------------------------------------
if you live by the sword, then you will die by the sword"
cp
From: craigs@pyrdc.UUCP (Craig Shipley)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Where can I get Hawkwind: Xenon Codex?
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:49:47 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp. Annapolis Junction, MD

I am 99.99% sure that Xenon Codex was released on Engima in the US. Engima has
gone the way of the dinosaurs, so the only way to find it is to hit the
used bins. I saw it in a used bin once, but since I already had the UK
release, I passed it up. Seems to me it had the Hawk device on the disk
itself and the tray that held the disk was clear plastic instead of black.
Shoulda bought it...
-- 

Regards,

Craig Shipley

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  Opinions expressed here, if any, are my own and not Pyramid's.
From: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: UK ?
Date: 10 Nov 1992 09:01:55 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, chrisley@oxford.ac.uk (Ronald L Chrisley) says:

>In article <1de773INNci6@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston) writes:

>   agreement on this point. Jobson was supposedly very upset with Holdsworth
>   because he couldn't/wouldn't play the guitar solos the same way every
>   night. If you've heard the debut album, you'll understand why this might
>   upset Jobson.

>And if you've heard any tapes of the first UK tour, you might
>understand even more: Holdsworth was just out of control sometimes!
>He didn't seem to be paying any attention to the music, just playing
>aimlessly over other parts many times.  Sometimes I wonder whether he
>actually *understood* UK's music.

  Probably not in the way the fans understood it, no. Certainly not in
the way Wetton and Jobson understood it.  :)  

>UK is one of my favourite bands, if not my favourite.  That's because
>they combined the rich jazz/prog harmonic vocabulary with *composed*
>rock pieces.  Their virtue, for me, was that improvisation was
>downplayed.  Unfortunately, I don't think Holdsworth was into that
>kind of restriction.

  Exactly. That's probably why Holdsworth has ended up unhappy in any
setting except for those he's created. Somewhat paradoxically, Chad
Wackerman says that Holdsworth won't tell his sidemen what to play.

  Jeff

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