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From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Grand Puba's new album
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:52:29 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

In article <oegCK7O00Vpa45e1Qx@andrew.cmu.edu> Michael Anthony Carnevale 
<mc78+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>I have been waiting for Puba's album to be released since last May.  It
>just keeps getting put off, just like X-Clan style earlier this year. 
>It was supposed to be released on the first of September, and I actually
>believed that it would be.  But of course, it's been postponed
>indefinitely.  I guess you 'll just have to pull out Brand Nubian's
>album, or check out some of his guest appearances to catch his unique
>styles until it gets released.

>-Mc

For those of you who missed the first post, I'll say it one more time.
According to Elektra Records (straight from the horse's ass), Puba drops
"Reel To Reel" on October 20th.  Check the wreck-it stores and tape shops
then.


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Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: agoyo1@athena.mit.edu (Acee Agoyo)
Subject:  what's up and concert info
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:13:48 GMT

What's up to everybody who reads alt.rap.

Are there any upcoming concerts in the Boston area?
Also, is the new K-SOLO any good?


"I got you working on the nightshift"
agoyo1@athena.mit.edu
Xref: sparky alt.rap:4509 rec.music.funky:1382
From: superfly@etek.chalmers.se (Palle Zetterstrand)
Newsgroups: alt.rap,rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: Brand New Heavies
Date: 14 Sep 92 10:41:35 GMT
Reply-To: superfly@etek.chalmers.se (Palle Zetterstrand)
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg, SWEDEN

In article <1992Sep10.153821.18918@leland.Stanford.EDU>, dpawson@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dave Pawson) writes:
|> Well, after it got mixed reviews here in alt.rap, I picked up Heavy
|> Rhyme Experience Volume 1.  I'm into it.  The first few cuts are the
|> best - Main Source, Gangstarr ("My main objective is to be more
|> effective."), and Grand Puba (Who makes the loooot?).  I *love* this
|> Puba joint.  The Master Ace jam is pretty good too.  The beats are
|> kickin throughout the album - having a real bass player works, and the
|> bass will rip your head off.  Some of the lyrics are pretty timid - I
|> think Black Sheep are alright, but their jam on Heavy Rhyme Experience
|> is wiggedy wack.  I try to ignore the lyrics and groove to the music.
|> Somebody claimed all the beats sound the same, and I can sorta see
|> that.  It does all have the same feel.  But that feel is new and
|> refreshing.  I listen to that album, then throw in some Das Efx or
|> Paris, and I'm straight.  It's a great change of pace - I'd check it
|> out.  
|> 					Word to Arch Bunker,
|> 							Dave

 Yesterdays when I played the album I noticed a strange thing. The tracklisting
 in the booklet wasn't the same as the one on the CD. On the CD there were an 
 extra track called Heavy rhyme experience. Is this the one Black Sheep are
 wiggedy whack on? The track does not exist though. Could this be a difference
 between English and the American version of the album? 
                                            -Palle Zetterstrand
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: sabotkap@woods.ulowell.edu (Pete Sabotka)
Subject: Re: Cypress Hill...do you like?
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 01:17:05 GMT

: In article <timm.715371313@void>, timm@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Tim McClarren) writes:
:  I was just sitting here listening to the 2nd track from Return of
:  The Product and Serch mentions liking Cypress Hill...I dunno, do
:  y'all like this crew?  Everytime I listen to 'em they remind of
:  the one hood in the first Kid & Play flick with the really whiny
:  voice: "Yeaaaaaa........"
:  
:  
:  -- 
:  Tim McClarren     | "...a bajillion brilliant Jobsian lithium licks."
:  timm@ncsa.uiuc.edu|
:  (217)244-0015     |

I like Cypress Hill. Yeah, their voices arent the best at all, but the music
is great. It has good bass and it sounds awesome from the kicker's of the
low-riders of Lowell! :)
-Mel
From: gumby@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Grim Reaper)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Jam in London
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:14:52 GMT
Organization: The Edge of Sanity


 People in the London area, is anyone going to the Kiss FM jam on Sunday
 6th at the Brixton Academy ??, tickets are 10 pound ( in advance ) and
 the line up is : P.E, EPMD & GANG STARR it's gonna be slammin......
 Let me know if you are going.

 Gumby.
From: kang@stolaf.edu (Joseph S Kang)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Lyrics
Date: 13 Sep 92 02:47:23 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: St. Olaf College, Northfield, MN

So, anyone out there got any lyrics for Cypress Hill?  I would really 
appreciate it if someone could post them in this newsgroup.

Thanks.

Joe
-- 
Joseph Kang      |  Disclaimer:  Whether you believe it or not, the views
kang@stolaf.edu  |               expressed in the above article are all mine.
                 |  		 Unless I've been brain-washed and don't know
St. Olaf College |    		 it or don't notice the difference. :-)
From: mcarlsso@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Mars)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Samplers...
Date: 15 Sep 92 05:50:26 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <d1dol.716458176@dtek.chalmers.se> d1dol@dtek.chalmers.se (Fredrik Lundholm) writes:
>dwrinkle@vax1.umkc.edu (--DJ Revolution--) writes:
>
>If you are looking for a decent not-so-expensive sampler you could
>look out for the Casio FZ1 (discontinued), 16 bit, up to two meg's memory.
>That'll give you some 32  sec's saple time (at least) 39 kHz Sample rate.
>Supposedly to have bright clear sound, but It has one major inconvienience
>no built-it sequencer....
>I think DU likes this one..

The FZ1 is pretty cool except the output levels are so fucking low
compared to other samplers.  This means shitload of noise since the
levels are maxed out lots of times.  This sampler also has a very
boring boring frequency response and the operating system requires
button pushing galore....

I think an old Akai S900 or S950 would be a better bet for funky
breakbeat loops that require more punch.  Another good buy is the
Roland S330 and W30 which put out more bass than bth of the
above....



crank up the levels to match the other y
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From: ndb034@nov.hb.se (Jesper Hgstrm CMB-K/CRR)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Don't Curse (was Re: DAS EFX)
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:40:26 GMT
Organization: Gothenburg Universities' Computing Centre

>Also, Ice-T has censored the videos of some of his tracks 'New Jack Hustler'
>and 'O.G. Original Gangster' specifically. And with the BodyCount album and the
>song 'There Goes The Neighbourhood'....

>The album has the lyric
>       "Here come them fucking niggers in their fancy cars
>        Who gave them fucking niggers, those rock guitars"

>But the video clip has the lyric
>       "Here come them black boys in their fancy cars
>        Who gave them black boys, those rock guitars"

>Once upon a time I heard Ice-T say that he spoke as he wanted to speak but he
>didn't mind if others cleaned up the lyrics after the fact. Now it seems he'll
>also clean up the lyrics as well. I don't mind. 


Why man? The above lyrix is a quote from someone else saying it. It's no 
use, not beneficial for nobody if he changes the words. The truth is the 
truth and need no soft way of saying.


>I think the attitude people
>have toward the word 'fuck' (and all other swear words) is childish, but so it
>gets censored if played on the radio (or doesn't get played at all). 

That is wrong by first amendment as they usanians usually say :-) But me too 
think it is wrong even though not refering to the 1st amendment. 

Btw, what attitude d'ya think is childish? 

//Jay1
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: ecwdb@wombat.newcastle.edu.au
Subject: PE to rock the house in South Africa!
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 23:16:36 GMT

	I read yesterday in the NME that PE will tour SOUTH AFRICA in October!
Does anybody know anything about this?? They must have lined up some pretty
heavy security; I would say that some of the more fascistic elements there
would be keen to kill members of a militant black group (especially if Chuck
says the type of things he did at the PE gig in Newcastle, Australia.."If they
won't give up to you the things that God gave you, then you kick down the door
and take it..that's Yo Bum Rush the Show").
	Of course the whole thing could be off in light of yesterday's massacre
of ANC supporters. Anyone got any information?

Wylie
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: fedde@Oslo.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler)
Subject: Re: The X-Man's in the House :-)
Organization: UDAC, Uppsala, Sweden
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 18:12:15 GMT

juonsteve@bvc.edu writes:

[A lot about his letters and blablabla...]

Yo man...not trying to diss you, but keep this about your letters and all you
get for yourself? I log in from time to time to check this dope group for
info on rekkids, not to read stuff like this. There is something called 
mailing list which you can use to stay in touch with all those members of
that stuff you created. Spare us the time. I just got a 1200 baud modem, you
know?

"See, most of my life I never had this.
 I felt like an outcast, treated like a missfit.
 Damn near didn't make it on my day of birth,
 thinking...Was I really supposed to be on this Planet Earth?"
						--Bushwick Bill

Fedde (fedde@bern.docs.uu.se)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: schnizer@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Schnizer Ansgar)
Subject: LL Cool J Lyrics
Organization: Research Institute for Mathematical Sciences, Kyoto, Japan.
Distribution: alt.rap
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:39:37 GMT

Does anybody who knows or has good ears fix some or
all of the mistakes in the lyrics of LL Cool J's song
about his comeback? I actually don't know the real name 
of the song.
 I could figure out it better (I know its pretty bad) so far

Don't call it a comeback,
I've been here for years
I'm back in my gears 
but suckers in fear
making them tears
when you are down like a moms son
listening to the race go boooom, explosion
on the "tau" base
upon the competition 
I'm towering
practice shocks
when I crack this lyrics
which makes you go to cops
Don't you dare - stare
peoples don't move
Don't you ever compare
peek to the rest which all get sliced and diced
competition is paying its price

I"m gonna knock you out
mama said knock you out  x4

Don't this call a regular jam
I'm gonna rock this land
I'm gonna take this city and the world by storm
- and I'm just get warm
Just like Muhammad Ali they called Casis
watch me bastards 
beat like a skull
Don't you know I had beat with
once you compete with me
the maniac cycles
and then I pull out my jam
you get ready because I get loud
how do you like me now
the rythem will not allow
you to get with
with respect don't quest
message to my sheafter(?)
I'm blasting, I'm blasting
kinda like to share 
so you can say shafted
old english filled my mind 
and I came up with a funky rhyme

I"m gonna knock you out
mama said knock you out  x4
put down
put down

I swallow facts when I heard you will be big - Oh
I just don't know
Monday trooper you get that that was war
but now I got a new toy
I'm going insane 
straighten the hurricane
police in pain
let you know you can't gain or maintain
unless you say my name
ripping, killing, kicking and chilling at whole
pass the old goal

I"m gonna knock you out
mama said knock you out  x4

shut gubs rest don't hurt
when I rape and kill at will
the man of the hour
tower of power
I'm the power
I'm gonna charge you it takes
to let you understand
that I'm bot an average man 
what I got I got in my hand
damn - Uhh
Uhh- damn it    x4
destruction, terror and mayhem
has me to sissies and suckers - pay 'em
farmers, farmers I'm ready
I think I will get a pamers
Down, get down
Don't you never ever pull my leather 
cos I explode
and my gun is easy to load
I goota thank god,
cos he gave me that gentle ducked heart


I"m gonna knock you out
mama said knock you out  x4


Cheers, Ansgar

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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 14 Sep 1992 11:15:27 CDT
From: Tyrone Ellison <U14864@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject:    REDMAN Sneak Preview

Chicago's true Hardcore hip hop radio station (WHPK 88.5 FM) just somewhat
satisfied my appetite by playing side one of Redman's new album... Although I
can't remember specific song titles right now :( , I can say beyond the shadow
of a doubt that Redman is In there!  From what I heard (and remember), tha al-
bum is gonna ba PHAT!!  I'll come back later with a list of the songs that ap-
pear on Redman's album side 1...

Peace Out... The Minister of Rage, Gifted Underworld Executioner...

PS:  Anyone heard Ice Cube's "You Can Get The Fist"?  It's supposed to feature
Cypress Hill, MC Eiht from CMW and some others... and, has anyone heard the
Lench Mob's "Guerillas in the Mist"?  If you have, let me know what they sound
like... I've been waiting all summer for "...The Fist."
Peace again....
From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Brand New Heavies
Date: 11 Sep 92 03:37:40 GMT
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

It was Vanessa Williams' new single, "Work To Do" or some sh*t like that.

K-Mello
SHYGUY Production

P.S.  At least it was a real rapper, not one of those R&B cameo but never
hear from again "rappers".
From: gavinm@spider.co.uk (Gavin McCallum)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: PE uk 12"'s
Date: 9 Sep 92 08:16:21 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

I don't know of all the PE 12"'s that have been released on British,
but these are the one's I've got.

650947 6        PUBLIC ENEMY No1 B/W TIMEBOMB & SON OF PE

651245 6        REBEL W/O A PAUSE B/W (DUNNO DONT HAVE THIS!)

651245 8        REBEL W/O A PAUSE B/W BRING THE NOISE * SOPHISTICATED
                (SUPPOSEDLY VERY RARE BUT I'VE SEEN PLENTY COPIES!)

652833 6        DONT BELEIVE THE HYPE B/W PROPHETS OF RAGE

653046 8        NIGHT OF THE LIVING BASSHEADS B/W THE EDGE OF PANIC

ZT42878*        FIGHT THE POWER B/W 2 MIXES
*(MOTOWN)

656018 6        BROTHERS GONNA WORK IT OUT B/W ANTI NIGGER MACHINE &
                DONT BELIVE THE HYPE(MY COPY MUST BE DUFF IT DONT HAVE
                                     DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE ON IT)

656018 8        BROTHERS GONNA WORK IT OUT B/W WAR AT 331/3 & B.T.N

655837 ?        911 IS A JOKE B/W REVOLUTIONARY GENERATION

656385 6        CANT DO NUTTIN FOR YA MAN B/W 2 MIXES

656385 8        CANT DO NUTTIN FOR YA MAN B/W GET THE FUCK OUTTA DODGE
                POWER SAXX & BURN HOLYWOOD BURN

12IS490*
*(ISLAND)       BRING THE NOISE B/W ANTHRAX TUNES

657864 6        NIGHTTRAIN B/W MORE NEWS AT 11

I know there's more: Cant Truss it,Shut Em Down,My Uzi Weigh's A Ton.
Any got a similar list for Ice T(not just Uk releases though,include
US).
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From: tim@crash.canon.co.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: the Think break (was Re: Shante)
Date: 15 Sep 92 12:39:50 GMT
Organization: me myself and i

ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
:
|[...] Shante's song, 'Go On Girl,' [...]
|the same JB beat as Rob Base's. [it takes two]
|Both were out at about the same time, but I
|can't remember which came out first and there were some arguments about it with
|some friends of mine or which was first.  For some reason, I think it was
|Shantes', but I really can't remember.

It's a moot point really. It doesn't matter who got the break first
since *everyone*knows* it was Rob Base. Just like *everyone*knows* that
Jazzy Joyce and Sweet Tee got to the Funky Drummer first on It's My Beat.

I'd put my money on Shante.

Tx. [but then again, I always put my money on Shante]
-- 
Tim F O'Donoghue <tim@crash.canon.co.uk> <uunet!canon!tim>
From: tim@crash.canon.co.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: PE 12"s (was Re: HardC.O.R.E. vol 01)
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:32:50 GMT
Organization: me myself and i

ccaajcw@ucl.ac.uk (Jevon White) writes:
::
|>[...] I've never
|>seen any 12" that predates "Fear of a Black Planet", so I don't know if there
|>are any or not.
|
|Where have you been?  Coming from a man from Britian, what about:-
|
|"Rebel Without A Pause" 12  (This tune tore up '87 and was still being played
|			     a lot in '88.  All-time classic)
|"Bring The Noise" 12 (and I don't mean the soundtrack 12" from that film that I
|		      can't remember where the flip-side was some Black Flames
|		      tune. No, the original 12 that was a follow-up to "Rebel")
|"Don't Believe The Hype" 12 (Which came out around the same time as "It Takes A
|			     Nation....")
|
|I'm sure somebody else can remember the rest.  [...]

Well, the first PE 12"s to hit the UK were:

public enemy no.1 (def-jam/cbs 6504976)
you're gonna get yours (def-jam/cbs 6509756)

These arrived in winter 86/spring 87. I think "Miuzi..." also dropped
off "Yo..." a little while later but I didn't pick it up (no remix, just
some new brighter production). I'm sure someone must have already put
together a PE discography so this followup isn't worth the ascii it's
encoded in. Possibly check out Dave Datta's (is that right) ftp
archives...

Tx. [feeling old feeling james]
-- 
Tim F O'Donoghue <tim@crash.canon.co.uk> <uunet!canon!tim>
From: tim@crash.canon.co.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: HardC.O.R.E. vol 01
Date: 9 Sep 92 08:11:48 GMT
Organization: me myself and i

simon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Patrice A. Simon) writes:
:
|"Public Enemy No. 1" b/w "Timebomb" 
|"You're Gonna Get Yours" b/w "Miuzi Weighs a Ton"

The UK release of "You're Gonna Get Yours" had the Terminator X Getaway
Dub on the flip side, basically an instrumental with vocal stabs
scratched over it. Awesome track, especially when spun at 33 (it's a 45
12). It probably also had "Miuzi..." on the flip side, I can't recall
(maybe that's where I heard it as a single).

Tx. [good ol' days]
-- 
Tim F O'Donoghue <tim@crash.canon.co.uk> <uunet!canon!tim>
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: pharvey@quack.sac.ca.us (Paul Harvey)
Subject: Re: Fab 5 Freddy
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
	<BuGpqE.J58@kingston.ac.uk>
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 23:41:06 GMT

In article <BuGpqE.J58@kingston.ac.uk> 
me_f316@ceres (+-=NUBIAN=-+) writes:
>If i remember right Hamster has always said that he is an entertainer.
>If he called himself a rapper I would be sending him hate mail.
>Even though he is an 'entertainer' he still ain't shit.

Yeah, he even dropped the MC part. He knows the time. And you don't
notice any facial surgery either, unlike some others I won't mention.
Ain't no shame in his game.
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Shante
Reply-To: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:41:59 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.030807.15912@leland.Stanford.EDU>, krs1@leland.Stanford.EDU (Shabba Ranks) writes:
>
>   Speaking of Shante, I have a question about one of her songs.  Of course you
>all know "It Takes 2" by Rob Base.  I loved the song, so I ran out and bought
>the album (whoops).  Anyway, I decided that Rob as still OK, since he or his
>DJ came up with that incredible beat for "It Takes 2".  I sure didn't listen
>to the song for the lyrics, although some of those were better than average.
>ANYWAY, it appears Roxanne Shante had a song "Have A Nice Day" out around the
>same time with the same beat.  Does anyone know which song came out first?
>
>
>Raqib H. Jones
>rjones@camis.stanford.edu
>rhj@pine.strata.com
>..

I cannot think of how, 'Have A Nice Day,' went for some reason, but I remember
Shante's song, 'Go On Girl,' from the, "Colors" soundtrack that sampled
the same JB beat as Rob Base's.  Both were out at about the same time, but I
can't remember which came out first and there were some arguments about it with
some friends of mine or which was first.  For some reason, I think it was
Shantes', but I really can't remember.  If nothing else, Rob Base bit more of
the original song ('Think' performed by Lyn Collins, produced by James Brown).

                                                    T-Dub
                                                    SHYGUY Productions
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Much Ado Bout Nothin'
From: dwrinkle@vax1.umkc.edu (--DJ Revolution--)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:36:12 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

Yo, as for Turntables and such... You can get a Technics 1200 Table
for 400 bucks if you shop hard enough, so Two tables, a decent mixer,
felts, a coffin, and some low-end PA can run about 1500, I dont know
where your homeboy got the info, but unless he is talking bout some
highly customized 1200's he must be temporarily disconnected from 411.


To other DJ's:  Where do most of you get your breakbeats and equipment,
I have been getting most of mine from Upstairs Records, and JR's Music
World in New York... I am forced to do mailorder because I'm stuck in
the middle of the country in Kansas City, Missouri where the Rap Scene
is still mainly underground, but we're working on it!!!!


Well, Im outta here, shouts goes out to all the niggaz and niggettes!!!
-- 


See Ya'
DJ Revolution [CONTINUUM MUSIC]
Believe Dat' 
Organization: Sophomore, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:00:06 -0400 
From: Michael Anthony Carnevale <mc78+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Shwingalokate

I have had the album De La Soul is Dead since it came out, and I have
listened to that album probably more than any other since that.  But I
still have not been able to understand what the "Shwingalokate" is.  I
listen to it over and over and over, and all I hear are an understood
phrase here and there, but as a whole, I have no idea what it means.  In
the credits on ATCQ's first album they mentioned the Shwingalokate, and
in a recent press release, De La said that the D.A.I.S.Y.  Age is
officially over, and "Shwingalokate" and the "Now-Speak" will be in
effect.  What the hell?  Someone help me out, I'm going nuts.

-Mc
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: rutley1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Rob Utley)
Subject: Diggidy Das-EFX
Organization: HHH
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:44:51 GMT



Any info on the Das-EFX Concert tour. I guess they'd be touring with EPMD.

Peace-out.

Robby-Robb