HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: juodvalk@quanta.eng.ohio-state.edu (Vincent V. Juodvalkis)
Subject: Re: Ohio State attendance/sellouts (was: "Re: Big Ten Review (9-5-92)")
Summary: Louisville returned tickets...
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:05:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.193021.18576@alc.com> stassen@alc.com (Chris Stassen) writes:
>
>I don't think it was a sellout.  If it wasn't, the only two home games
>in the past 60 (or so) that haven't been sellouts are Louisville 1992
>and Louisville 1991!
>
>According to the pre-game show on the radio, by an hour before game
>time there were only a few hundred tickets left for sale.  Thus, I
>find the attendance number rather surprising (even with 200 unsold
>seats, the attendance should have been over 91,000, plus players,
>band members, and media).


The tickets that were on sale before the game were tickets that
Louisville had returned.  I have been told there were several THOUSAND
of them, so if there were only a couple hundred left, I think Columbus
did pretty good.  I expect that the same thing happened with Louisville
last year and that is the only reason the game might not have been sold
out.

As far as game attendance... that weekend, and this, are the two biggest
moving weekends of the year (not counting dorms), and I know several
people who didn't make the game 'cause they weren't done moving yet.
Heathens that they are... attendance will pick up for the Big Ten, and
I would expect in excess of 91,000 for the Bowling Green game.

Yes, the crowd was rather lame.  Student tickets do not include the
L'ville or BGSU games (though you can still buy them if you want them).
Such games tend to be ``alumni games'' which tend to be ``well behaved''.

It will get better...


-- Vincent


Oh, yeah, and for those who were wondering, I am the person who gave
the Buckeyes a third place vote on Bapi Gupta's poll... and I'll do it
again too.


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From: retrac@vesuvius.cs.rice.edu (John Carter)
Subject: Re: Hmmm  Texas to Big 10!!!
Keywords: n
Organization: Rice University, Houston
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 08:28:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.002536.12622@den.mmc.com> kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.141314.21789@hou.amoco.com> zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace) writes:
>>Looks like my calling all conferences post needs to be taken more 
>>seriously.  We have reports on the radio that the University of 
>>Texas has agreed to join the Big 10, and the have been "confirmed
>>by the UT athletic dept."  
>> 
>>Can anyone in Big 10 country confirm this?  Where do you guys think
>>A&M will go?  SEC, Big 8, Big 10, Pac 10, WAC (*laugh, had to throw
>>that one in*)   :-)
>
>If Texas does join the Big 10, then they'll have 12 schools and probably
>split into 2 divisions like the SEC.  There'd be no reason for the Big
>Dozen (or the SEC) to also take A&M, and since there's no reason for A&M
>to stay in the Texas League, the Aggies will definitely join the Big 8!

That would make a lot of sense.  If the Aggies jump ship to the Big 8, I
wouldn't be surprised to see Texas Tech move there as well, to bring it back
to an even number.  Tech is a state school, so it can draw fans in West
Texas, although it's no superstar.  Houston would seem to be the odd man
out, given their ability to field an occasional top ten team in football and
basketball.  Then again, they can't draw fans worth a damn.  It's the curse
of being a primarily commuter school, albeit a big one

If the big state schools bolt, the four private schools in the SWC (SMU,
Baylor, Rice, and TCU) would (will?) probably drop out of division IA, at
least for football.  Seeing as how Rice seems to be more competitive of
late, that's too bad.

I guess the other question vis a vis the Big Eight is: What is Colorado
going to do?  They've been rumored to be considering jumping (Pac 10?) for a
while.

>The Big 9 would still be able to play round-robin schedules in football
>(and basketball, too) with three non-conference games.

-- 
John Carter  -*-  Rice University Computer Systems Lab  -*-  retrac@rice.edu

Thesis hacking Owl, soon to be Ute.  Move over Salt Lake, here he comes!
From: swanger@news.duc.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Auburn over Samford
Date: 14 Sep 92 12:22:25 GMT
Organization: Auburn University, AL

Auburn vs. Samford.

Could Samford upset Auburn?  Look at Citadel over Arkansas.
Terry Bowden led his I-AA Bullfrogs, err, I mean Bulldogs to a 12-2 record
last year.  Was Auburn going to crumble?

No.  

Auburn won, 55-0.

It could have been worse.

Samford took the opening kickoff and moved the ball a little, actually
picked up a few first downs.  Then AU intercepted a pass and the rout was
on.  The score after 1 quarter was 10-0, at halftime 34-0.  Several backs
scored.  Freshman RB Adrian Reese looked pretty decent, had 92 yards on 14
carries.  QB Stan White had no interceptions and wasn't sacked.  No
turnovers for Auburn.  Defensive tackle Randy Hart scored on an interception
return for a td.

Comment:  Pat Dye left Stan White in the game until partway through the 3rd
quarter, until the score was 41-0.  I felt he should have removed him
earlier and let the subs in early.  There was no need to rub their noses in
it.  I felt White should have been pulled at halftime (or earlier - it was
31-0 with time on the clock in the 2nd quarter).  He was still throwing long
passes in the 2nd and 3rd quarter, after the game was somewhat out of reach.

Next week:  LSU comes to Auburn.
-- 
David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu 
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From: mln@sunkj.larc.nasa.gov (Michael L Nelson)
Subject: Re: Exciting Big East Summary
Keywords: hoos suck
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 00:56:54 GMT

dew6c@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Dallas E. Wrege) writes:

>Jeez...  Does anybody really watch Big East Football?

[other drivel deleted]

Wahoos can be such a pain sometimes.

Perchance, what Big East team does UVa have a winning
record against?

It surely is *not* Virginia Tech...


Michael Nelson
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: zuniga@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Ralph Zuniga (FREAC/CAR))
Subject: BYU - America's Most Hated Team???
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 01:01:09 GMT

As I watch tonight's game (9/10) between San Diego St. and BYU, I
see that the BYU fans are calling their team the most hated in America.
Huh?? I can think of 10 or more teams that I hate more than BYU. Just
what is BYU thinking??? Anyone from BYU care to comment???
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: zuniga@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Ralph Zuniga (FREAC/CAR))
Subject: Re: t.u. is leaving the SWC? Info anyone?
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 22:53:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.155139.2118@Arco.COM> mminihan@inetg1.ARCO.COM (Mike Minihan) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.151047.9677@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>,
>cobarruvias@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov writes:
>> Just heard that t.u is leaving the SWC for the Big 10. Anyone hear this
>> one?
>>  
>
>My source tell me that t.u. is going to the SEC, and atm is going to the
>Big 8.
>
>-- 
>
>Mike Minihan      mminihan@arco.com

I've heard that Texas A&M will move to the SEC and Texas to the PAC-10
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ACC Predictions 9/5/92
From: mzwick@vitro.com (Morris J. Zwick)
Date: 10 Sep 92 08:08:55 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Vitro Corporation

In article <009604FF.680F4080@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU> mchenry@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU
(MCHENRY@BAE.NCSU.EDU) writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.092640.244@v7.vitro.com>, mzwick@vitro.com (Morris J.
Zwick) writes:
>>In article <Bu03HI.IIv@news.larc.nasa.gov> cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov
>>(Charlie Cockrell) writes:
>
>>>Maryland at Virginia  
>>>--------------------
>>>Maryland has upset Virginia two years in a row. Most of the starters for
>>>Virginia are returning, with the only major question mark at QB, where
>>>fifth-yearman Bobby Goodman will start.  Look for Terry Kirby to get
>>>plenty of carries - UVa will try to win with a strong running game. 
>>>Mark Duffner brings the run and shoot to Maryland. The Terps have a
>>>good Offensive Line, but no proven QB. 
>>>Virginia 24 Maryland 17
>>>
>
>Uva 28 Maryland 15
>
>Don't know enough about what happened to comment on this game. Was
>it close most of the way?
>

Maryland was ahead in the fourth quarter 15-12. Unfortunately (from my
perspective), the Terps snapped a ball about ten yards above the punter's head
in one series and Virginia recovered on the 7.  From there, UVA finally drove
the ball effectively while the new Maryland run and shoot sputtered. Overall,
it was an exciting game, but very sloppy (as expected).

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From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: wild, wild, wild WAC + Faulk
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:20:38 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: what.. me.. organized?



SDSU 45  BYU 38


SDSU did what the mighty Miami Hurricanes failed to do. 

SDSU did what no team had for 17 straight games in Provo. 

SDSU did what they themselves had never done before.

They went into what was one of the biggest home
field advantages in all of college football and beat the Cougars.

They [SDSU] were down to their reserves on defense for most of the 2nd
half. Three starters went down with injuries, and they hung on for
dear life at the end.

Marshall Faulk.. what is there left to say about this guy. Talk
about speed, accelaration, this dude has is it all. Everytime he
touches the football, he was a threat to score. The O Line and the 
H Backs did a fantastic blocking job; they held their blocks for
long and hustled downfield to throw more blocks as Faulk picked his
way thro' the BYU defense. The fact that Faulk had room to run was
also bcoz SDSU always had that long bomb threat. They burned BYU
badly last year with 4 bombs. The safeties were very aware of that
and played deeper for most of the game. Although the long threat was
not as potent as it was Patrick Rowe *and* Darnay Scott, they kept
'em honest by launching one once in a while. And burned them the
two times BYU blitzed.


_______________________________________________________
| Prashanth                    |                      |
| U. of California @ San Diego | prash@raman.ucsd.edu |
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From: timlin@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Timlin)
Subject: disappointing endings -- was(ND vs. Michigan)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 05:07:44 GMT

johndoe@squid.inmet (johndoe) writes:

>oh, well.  the announcers (except for the reporter who did his best to
>immediately grill holtz and stuck with it somewhat while holtz started
>stalking off ... can't remember that hairspray addict's name!) were actually
>one of the less disappointing components of one of the most disappointing
>endings ever to a college football game.  if notre dame and michigan both go
>undefeated-once tied this year, expect michigan to get the nod.

The most disappointing ending (IMHO) was when UM and Illinois ended tied
3-3 in '85.  The game was at Champaign on Halloween weekend.  Champaign
had a big, unofficial street party for Halloween.  With the score tied 3-3
Illnois attempted a FG, and the ball hit the crossbar and bounced back.
70K+ people sure got quiet.  Later on Green street (this was the last year
of the unofficialness, lots of damage, couches and dumpsters in the 
intersections ablaze, etc.) there was a guy wearing a pipe across his chest
and a sign that said "F***in' Crossbar".  Great costume.

So let's hear about those disappointing losses.

Mike Timlin
timlin@spot.colorado.edu
From: scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Purdue & Ohio State
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:04:52 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University

Brian E. Saunders writes:

  >But remember 1988 - Purdue upset a TOSU team in Columbus, and then managed
  >to lose to Northwestern.<

     I was a freshman here when that happened. It was our Homecoming game, and
the theme was "History in the Making". Yeah, we made history alright -- losing
to Purdue in Columbus for the first time in 30 or so years. That was John
Cooper's first year as coach, and we Buckeye fans needed to laugh at a *lot* of
that kind of irony to get through the year. :-) :-)

                                       Steve
|
-- 
    Steve Casburn (scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
    *The* Ohio State University
    I was a Cal Bears fan when they couldn't even beat a high school team!
       I think I can live with a loss to Purdue.
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From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: WEEKLY TOP 25
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:41:58 GMT

In article <92259.154221RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Hey, how 'bout using the CNN/USA Today coaches poll instead!!!!!!!  Everyone
>knows the coaches know the game better than the writers of America do!!!!!!!

Yeah, like the coach who voted Miami #3 last year?

Njan
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jeff@neuron.cs.tamu.edu (Jeff Goldberg)
Subject: A&M 31 LSU 22
Reply-To: Jeff@cs.tamu.edu
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Texas A&M University
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 00:28:35 GMT

Texas A&M wins a tough, physical battle in Tiger Stadium, in Baton
Rouge.  Although not a blowout, it had been a long time since A&M won
there, and so just winning is satisfaction enough for A&M.  IMHO, the
offense definitely improved its play from the Stanford game, but the
defense dropped off somewhat against LSU's stronger passing attack.

Again, A&M barely covers the spread, but at 2-0 is still in the hunt for
the national championship (woof, woof).
--
           Jeff Goldberg                        
           College Station, Texas
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: pass interference (was: Re: OU - Tech)
Date: 5 Sep 92 14:11:31 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers) wrote:

}                      If there was a collision (as opposed to incidental
}contact), there was a foul.

I think there can be a genuine collision without an actual foul - if neither
player has established position and both charge for the ball (say, a badly
overthrown one) then I don't think it's interference.  But if one is badly
out of position and creams the other one trying to get to the ball, there
should be no question.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
 "There was such speed in her little body, and such lightness in her
    footfall, it is no wonder her brown study astonishes us all."
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers)
Subject: Re: Virginia Tech
Keywords: go hokies!  go yellowjackets!
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:47:39 GMT

In article <BuMDpB.21n@news.larc.nasa.gov> mln@sunkj.larc.nasa.gov (Michael L Nelson) writes:
>dew6c@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Dallas E. Wrege) writes:
>
>>> Well, that's what makes the VT-UVa rivalry different.  UVa has not won The
>>> Game several years in a row.
>
>>Virginia *has* been rather dominant in the series, though, don't you think?
>
>No.
>
>Apparently this hasn't taken, so I'll say it again.  I'll speak
>real slow and use small words so you can understand.
>
>Virginia Tech leads in the series.
>
>the numbers are something like
>
>37-32-5    (they have a 4-5 game lead; these numbers are pretty close)
>
>UVa has won 4 of the last 5.
>
>before that, VT has won about 4 of the last 5.
>
>before last season's pounding, UVa had only won by
>1 pt, 3 (?) pts, and 7 pts.  Wins, nonetheless.
>But hardly basis for "dominant"
>

What hasn't taken is how bad Virginia football was for so long. One 
winning season in about twenty while I was growing up. Tech obviously
wasn't a real powerhouse either, or the overall series would be 
more lopsided. My memory of the sixties and seventies is that the
Tech game was one fans always counted in the "maybe" column 
At the beginning of the season (the 
two options were "loss" and "maybe") because a fired-up Cavlier
team usually made a game of it. Seems like Tech fans and players
treat the game that way no matter what the records are, and that's
how it should be. Recent and not-so-recent history bears them out.

Ken B. 
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From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Pac 10 Action!
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 02:42:34 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 


First, the good:

Cal looked *very* strong in its 46-16 victory over San Jose State today.
Granted, SJSU is a team in turmoil after the academic disqualification 
of a few starters, but QB Barr, RB White and WR Dawkins look to become
an imposing trio nonetheless.  White was particularly awesome, rushing
for over 200 yards before leaving the game after 3 quarters.  At times
he made it look as though he were playing against a high school team.
Barr looks to be a no-doubt star (and he's only a sophomore), and Dawkins
picked up where he left off last year with 2 (3) TDs in the first half.

Perhaps the most appealing side of the game was the coaching.  To be
succinct, Cal has not come out on the short end by losing Snyder to ASU;
Gilbertson has instilled a potent offense and an aggressive, competent
defense.  Especially nice to see was Gilbertson substituting extensively
even in the first half, to look at other players and to avoid a too-
lopsided score against a clearly outmmanned opponent.  (Could it be that
the days of running it up have ended?  Probably not...)

And now for the Bad and the Ugly:

The University of Spoiled Crybabies received a gift 31-31 tie courtesy
of *three* major San Diego State mistakes in the final minute of the 
game.  First, the Aztek placekicker gagged on a chip-shot FG that would
have put them up.  Then, after SDSU amazingly got the ball back with time
to do something, a WR (I don't remember who) dropped an on-the-numbers
pass with no one within ten yards of him.  This was the final scrimmage
play of the game and would have reduced the final FG try from 55 yards
to much less (he might have taken it in, for that matter).  Finally, 
the placekicker overcorrected and missed a 55-yarder wide right by
10 feet tops.  It just didn't turn over for him.

Anyway, the Aztecs have to feel pretty good about their performance.
As for the Boys of Troy, it might be the start of another long
season.  Perhaps their fans will wait until the team can at least
beat a WAC-caliber team before opening their mouths in woofdom.  On
the other hand, knowing U$C fans, probably not.
-- 
Michael Zimmers                                    |  Home:  408 996 1984
SoftHelp                                           |  Work:  408 996 1965
Software Solutions for Open Systems                |  Data:  408 996 1974
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From: kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy)
Subject: Jamal Faulkner stipped of scholarship
Organization: Arizona State Univ, Tempe
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 00:05:07 GMT


     Just heard on the news that Jamal Faulkner has
been stripped of his scholarship and "invited" to
transfer to another school for allegedly violating
his probation again last night by striking his
girlfriend during an argument and preventing her
from leaving the room.  She called police.

     While I'm glad to see ASU finally taking some
steps to control the problems, I'm concerned that
they've gone overboard and thrown out the baby with
the bath water.  Whatever happened to due process?

     At this point I fear scrambling to salvage
the university's rapidly dwindling reputation is
more important to ASU officials than due process.

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice
                             internet: kennedy@asuvax.asu.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:42:55 EDT
From: <LWH@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: ND tickets
 <1992Aug25.194242.23314@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <67090@hydra.gatech.EDU>
 <lauqhaINN311@news.bbn.com>

 Hi I need One (1) ticket for the Purdue / Nd game on September 26.
any suggestions would be appreciated.


Thanks
Rick
From: fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Cal 14 v. Purdue 41
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:18:01 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <BuJIup.D4t.1@cs.cmu.edu> bnoble+@cs.cmu.edu (Brian Noble) writes:
>
>(Sorry this is late - just got back to the Burgh from West Lafayette)
>
>We got our butts kicked.  We Got Our Butts Kicked.
>   ****** WE GOT OUR BUTTS KICKED! ******

  Well said Noble :-)

  I was gone all day Saturday, and when my roommate told me the score I
thought he was playing a joke on me or something.

  The only good thing I can make from this Cal loss is that Purdue is not
a Pac-10 team, so Cal still has a chance of making the Rose Bowl.  Washington
appeared to be un-inspired against their Big-10 opponent as well, so
maybe there is a chance Washington can be beat this year.  I guess this was
a good week for the Big-10- Michigan didn't lose to ND and the Badgers put
up a good fight against a top team and the Boilmakers crushed Cal.  The
Bears have a bye week this week so they better get their act together for
the upcoming Kansas game, which will be televised on ESPN!

  Doug
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From: bentow@cis.rand.org (Stan Bentow)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: TEST
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:22:59 GMT
Reply-To: bentow@cis.rand.org (Stan Bentow)
Distribution: usa
Organization: RAND, Santa Monica CA



This is my first time using rn.  I'd appreciate it if someone would
reply so I can so I can start getting the hang of this.

Thanks,

Stan