From: kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta)
Subject: Re: Dangerous Statements ....:
Organization: Indiana University, Department of Mathematics.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 22:36:32 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.143423.25698@ucthpx.uct.ac.za> tonyp@ucthpx.uct.ac.za (Tony Putman) writes:
>kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta) writes:

>>What is the logical difference between arming the 
>>boere and arming IFP supporters???

>The thrust of his article was that blacks are not allowed firearms, and
>this was rebutted.  If you want to take the position that *opponents of the
>regime* are not allowed firearms, this is a different assertion.  The South
>African situation is *not* a black-and-white matter, and we may get a lot
>further with discussions if people would stop pretending it was.

The situation in SA *is* in blak-and-white. No shades of grey! Nothing can be
more counter-productive and less likely to succeed than to try to potray it 
otherwise. This blak-on-blak violence is pure nonsese! The type of propaganda
propagated by folx like you and Fidonet. See what I fished up today from AP:

   De Klerk Ousts 6 Generals           
     Over Anti-Opposition Campaign     
                 ---
    CAPE TOWN, South Africa - President
F.W. de Klerk fired six generals Satur-
day and admitted the military is waging
a secret campaign against opposition
groups that could include killings.
    De Klerk said some military opera-
tives are still involved in unspecified
illegal activities and that the govern-
ment is moving to stop them.
    He said top government officials
were unaware of the illegal activities.
    ''I think I can say, yes, that the
findings will lead to the conclusion
that some of the activities have led to
the death of people,'' de Klerk said at
a news conference.
    Government opponents have long
claimed the military acts as a ''third
force'' to destabilize opposition
groups and foment violence in black
townships that has claimed thousands of
lives in recent years.
    De Klerk has repeatedly denied
allegations of military misconduct.
    The president said the offenses
ranged from political sabotage to
criminal activities for personal gain.
    He said information on the
activities would be turned over to a
judicial commission investigating
political violence in South Africa.
    The investigation showed military
personnel and ''collaborators of the
South African Defense Forces have been
involved, and in some cases are still
involved, in illegal and or
unauthorized activities and
malpractices,'' he said.
    He indicated Military Intelligence
was the main source of the problem. The
controversial wing of the defense
forces has been implicated repeatedly
in dirty trick campaigns.
    The admissions are likely to damage
de Klerk's government as it negotiates
with the African National Congress on
ending white minority rule.
    The opposition group has demanded
joint control of the security forces.
De Klerk said some of the officers
implicated apparently opposed sharing
power with the black majority.
    De Klerk told reporters that two
generals and four brigadier generals
were being forced to retire along with
10 other members of the defense forces.
He said another seven defense force
members were placed on compulsory leave.
    He said the names would be released
as soon as possible, and information on
the illegal activities would be turned
over to police, the attorney general
and the Goldstone Commission, a
judicial commission investigating
political violence in South Africa.
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