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From: tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Washington vs. Arizona
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:21:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Nov10.172122.1233
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando

In article <1992Nov8.184639.24394@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> sfm@manduca.neurobio.arizona.edu (Stephen Matheson) writes:
>
>I hope that doesn't happen.  I don't get the impression that the
>infraction was that severe, and I'd hate to see something like
`>that happen to a great team that is still the class of the
>greatest football conference in the solar system.  We are
>proud of our team because we believe they beat the 2 best:
>Miami and Washington.

Gee, I was under the impression that the team with the highest score
at the end of the game was the winner. 

Using this criteria to determine winners leaves arizona with.... let's
see.... a win over one of the best. washington. 

Tony (Just say 'Noles) Travaglini
tech@cs.ucf.edu
From: smear@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Steve Mear)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Pac-10 expansion rumors
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:46:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: ut-emx.83151
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

>
>4) Traditional rivalries would disappear, including Cal-UCLA,
>Cal-USC, USC-Stanford, Texas-Baylor, Colorado-Nebraska, etc. 
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^
			Huh?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Subject: Re: TODAY'S LESSON: SPELLING "LOSE"
Originator: delarocq@c00059-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 10:58:22 GMT




 I needed a good laugh... Hooray for you!!!!! :)

 Sarcasm is so great!! I love it!! *laugh*



 Dayrail Lahrocke, Noorth Carohlinah Stayte
 (Darrell Larocque, North Carolina State)
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Hungry for some fish.. Monday Night Football, November 16, 1992..

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so we can talk all about the games, insight, etc.
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From: ongsakul@ee.tamu.edu (Ongsakul Weerakorn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: whatif....
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:03:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: tamsun.1992Nov11.200320.11128
Organization: Texas A&M University

lein@cat.uucp (John Leinaweaver) writes:

>What if Miami loses leaving Alabama and Texas A&M the only undefeated
>teams in the cartel.  Would they be allowed to play each other
>someplace?
>
>John L

If this scenario happens, it is not possible for them to play each other
for a national champion.  SWC and SEC champion is locked to the Cotton
and Sugar bowl respectively. 

Ong
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Subject: Re: Alabama and Miami, setting it straight
Reply-To: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:21:56 GMT

In article <92316.125825JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu> <JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>How many SEC teams has Miami approached for a series?  A lot
>has been written about how scared the SEC is of blahblahblah,
>but I don't recall anyone saying that Miami actually proposed
>a series only to be turned down.

    Why "all of them" Jim.  Jason said so.  What other facts do you need?

>I apologize if my request for facts is unnerving for some of you,
>maybe such facts could make this thread a bit more productive
>than the current "you're chicken" "are not" "are too" nonsense.

    Don't get your hopes up Jim.  I've been asking for the same
thing.  I've force-fed them facts, beat them over the head with
facts, even rammed facts up their, well, you get the picture. 
I don't think they've recognized them yet.  I've led them to the
water, hell, I've even got them standing belly-deep in it but they
still won't drink.

--
Guy McConnell  guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com  or  ...uunet!ingr!b11!mspe5!guy
     "And the answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind..."
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Subject: Re: Reality Check
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 13 Nov 1992 16:47 EST  

In article <1992Nov13.153519.6593@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming) writes...
>My guess (and check my record in the MAC to see just how predictive it really
>is) is that Miami will drop a game but still end up matched with Alabama in the
>Sugar, Notre Dame will play the Aggies in the Cotton and Syracuse will get
>killed by Nebraska in the Orange.  That leaves something on the order of
>Boston College-Florida State in the Fiesta.

I believe the Bowl Coalition guarantees the ACC champ a spot in either the 
Sugar, Cotton, or Orange, unless a #1 vs. #2 match (including the ACC Champ
) can be made in the Fiesta.  That would put Florida State against Nebraska 
in the Orange, leaving Syracuse against Arizona in the Fiesta.

R Dendy

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From: pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn)
Subject: I-AA Report for Nov. 14, 1992 (2/3): I-AA Top 20
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:45:52 GMT

                         I-AA Top 20, Released 10/9/92
                         (First Place Votes in Parentheses)

     Team                       Pts  Was

1.   NE Louisiana (7-2) (3)     79   3t
2.   The Citadel (8-1) (1)      76   3t
3.   Delaware (8-1)             73   6
4.   Northern Iowa (8-1)        68   1
5.   Middle Tennessee (7-2)     64   7
6.   Idaho (7-2)                58   2
7.   Youngstown St. (7-2)       57   9
8.   Florida A&M (7-2)          52  10
9.   Villanova (7-2)            49  11
10.  Marshall (6-3)             43   5
11.  SW Missouri (6-3)          40  12
12.  Samford (7-2)              36   8
13.  McNeese St. (6-3)          33  14
14.  Georgia Southern (7-2)     25  16
15.  Eastern Kentucky (7-2)     23  15
16.  Massachusetts (7-1)        18  20
17t. N. Car. A&T (8-1)          17  19
17t. William & Mary (7-2)       17  16
19.  Western Illinois (7-3)      3  NR
20t. Princeton (7-1)             2  NR
20t. E. Washington (6-2)         2  NR

OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES:  Alcorn St., Appalachian St., Cornell, Grambling,
Richmond, Sam Houston St., South Carolina St., Tennessee Tech, Weber St.,
Western Carolina.

PDunn
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: To Ethen whatever...
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 00:19:45 GMT


If you wanted to say something, say it on the net. I am tired of
you sending me e-mails about how bad my posts are and how I'm
responsible for CU getting bashed up by Nebraska and all that.
If you do, at least have the guts to read the replys. Don't think
that you're too smart just because you have a mail filter. I know
enough to break your filter anytime. I just don't do it because I
don't think it's worth wasting time on some *asshole* like you.

But, if you continue to do the same (sending me messages which are clearly
not appreciated) I might be forced to take some action I find appropriate.

yours sincerely,
Njan
From: ds4@teer17.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: UW, Arizona, & Miami
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:47:39 GMT

In article <26890025@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, privat@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Jim Privat) writes:
|> I think that Dmitrius's (sp?) argument that the Miami/Arizona game
|> was close only because Miami didn't take Arizona seriously
|> and "probably didn't even practice for the game" is totally
|> bogus (sorry for not quoting directly from his posting, I don't
   ^^^^^

I do not believe you are correct.  Haven't you ever played someone in a sport
that you thought you were clearly better than?  What occurs during the game, is
the 'better' player fools around and does not try hard believing he has it won
easily.  Now if the opponent is better than believed, the game could remain
close as it progresses.  Even then, the 'better' player still would not be aware 
of his underestimating his opponent's ability and would accredit his 'poor' 
performance to himself and not the talent of his opponent.  This is what occured 
during the Miami UA game.  Even after the game, everyone thought Arizona was a
bad team, and it was Miami's fault that the game was that close.  One time my
brother almost beat me in basketball for this same reason, and since then he has
never come close....just like if Miami and UA played again, the game would not be
close.


|> feel like going back to find it).  First, Arizona is a damn good

No problem, you probably said it better than I did ;)

|> team, and would give Miami a run for their money even if Miami
|> knew they weren't a pushover.  Second, if a team doesn't bother
|> to try hard or get up for the "easy" games, that doesn't say
|> much about them either.
|> 
|> Miami, Arizona, and Washington are all damn good teams.  End
|> of story.

I agree, but I do not think Arizona is at Miami's level.

|> 
|> Flame as necessary.
|> 
|> Jim Privat
|> jimp@hpwss401.mayfield.hp.com
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From: Rob Gordon <rgordon@convex.COM>
Subject: Re: Boston College
Originator: rgordon@cvxcs.cs.convex.com
Reply-To: rgordon@convex.COM (Rob Gordon)
Organization: CONVEX Colorado Springs, CO
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1992 14:14:32 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1992Nov5.223224.25743@schbbs.mot.com> C14577@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Debra Sullivan) writes:
:i honestly believe that they can beat a highl
:overrated Notre Dame team this weekend.  I am still in shock that we are
:nine point underdogs in the game not to mention that we are ranked behin
:them.  But then again they are Notre Dame and we are not!!!  Either way

:major or a masters.  Let's hear it for the Eagles and lets put an end
:to the reign of Notre Dame!!!  Am i the only one that is tired of having
:my entire saturday dedicated to a notre dame.  It is time for some fresh
:blood and my choice is Boston College.  GO EAGLES!  D.Sullivan '92



Uh, Debra, time to reconsider.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Subject: Re: Question: PAC-10 tie-breaker
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:30:46 GMT

zimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>
>>jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer) writes:
>
>>>Just a question... NOT about who's going to win or what
>>>anybody thinks about the race, but just about the tie-breaker
>>>rules...          
>>>
>>>If USC were to beat UA, and WSU were to win its final two games,
>>>leaving the top three teams as
>>>
>>>   UW   9-2
>>>   WSU  9-2
>>>   USC  9-2
>
>>First off, USC would end up 8-2-1, not 9-2.  Don't forget that nasty
>>tie with San Diego State. Here are the current standings:
>>
>>				W  L T Pts  OP   W  L T Pts  OP
>>Washington                      5  1 0 151  59   8  1 0 238  90
>>Arizona                         4  1 1 118  66   6  2 1 204  77
>>Wash. St.                       4  2 0 146 130   7  2 0 261 190
>>Stanford                        4  2 0 103 106   7  3 0 215 169
>>USC                             4  2 0 132 108   5  2 1 183 149
>>[...]
>>So if UW beats OSU, but loses to WSU; UA loses to USC, USC wins out over
>>UA, UCLA, and Notre Dame; WSU beats Stanford and UW then the rankings would
>>look like this:
>>
>>Washington	6-2-0	9-2-0
>>Washington St	6-2-0	9-2-0	(1 win over 1-AA Montana)
>>USC		6-2-0	8-2-1
>
>I jumped into this in the middle, but is there some reason you're
>excluding Arizona?  If Wazzou knocks off the Huskies and UA wins
>its final two (which shouldn't be a problem) then we get to watch
>the Desert Swarm on Hangover Day, no?

No.  It was stipulated that USC beat UA, leaving them with a 5-2-1 record
in conference (assuming that they the Wildcats beat the Sun Devils).

****************************************************************************
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Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Hey Matt!  The diffusion pump is full of
University of Washington      *   water again!
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From: chyang@anaphora.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: Re: Miami #1
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 18:37:35 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: chyang@anaphora.engin.umich.edu


In article <BILLMS.92Nov13131704@gip.eecs.umich.edu>, billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) writes:
> In article <1992Nov13.155146.2837@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9041679@henson.cc.wwu.edu (brian h. harper) writes:
> 
>    William Karamo Motley <wm1o+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> 
>    >But, wait a minute, I don't get this.  After Miami's win over Arizona,
>    >every UW fan in the nation was calling Arizona a "creampuff",
>    >"overrated", "fluke", "a non-contender", "the weakest PAC-10 team". 
>    >Could it now be that UW fans are hyping up Arizona to make their Huskies
>    >look good?
> 
>    >I don't know.  You tell me.
> 
>    OK, I will. First of all, not every UW fan was calling Arizona a "creampuff"
>    team. Anyone who knows the Pac-10 knew Arizona was good. I don't think
> 
> I don't believe this is true.  Most of the preseason rags had Arizona either
> at the middle of the back, or just below the middle, with an emphasis that
> they had great *potential* but little proven and some serious question marks.
> For a top 5 team that spells creampuff.  Now the potential has been fulfilled
> and the questions answered, so we know that they are solid.  But I don't
> think anybody comming into the season, including the pac 10 folx, thought
> they would be any where near as tough as they have been.
> 

	But then again.  At the beginning of the season, alot of people
expected Washington to have a cake walk through the PAC-10 because 
everyone else were supposed to be creampuffs.  How things have changed!

- C. Yang

ill
> --
> -------------------------------
> 	Bill Mangione-Smith
> 	billms@eecs.umich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith)
Subject: Re: Nebraska and patsies
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:29:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.085230.2098@colorado.edu> manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu) writes:
>Shall we start talking about A&M for a change? The pasty NU ran over
>beat the sh*t out of a Baylor team which almost beat A&M in the home
>turf? Another pasty beat tech 35-0 (or something like that) gave
>A&M a run for their money? (I'm not even going to mention Stanford!)
>
>When are you guys going to play some real teams?

cha ching.

- goober (counting 'em up) smith
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: gsroka@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gregory Sroka)
Subject: Re: SEC East shoots itself in the foot
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 21:30:36 GMT

In article <BxInLy.Hy@encore.com> jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett) writes:
>| 
>| I can't wait.  I just hope the Sugar Bowl people don't invite ND again 
>| instead.  
>
Yeah, It would be a shame to see another SEC champ get crushed in the Sugar. 

...(stuff about a rumor deleted)

>...                                      No wonder Notre Dame 
>in french means " Our Ladys ".
                   ^^^^^^^^^   
Hey, watch it with the bad translation. It's "Our Lady".  (In honor of
a certain someone's mother, and you don't want to insult a guy's mother
do you?) 



Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jvbutera@grad04.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera)
Subject: Re:  Virginia vs NCSU game (was My Top 25)
Organization: NCSU Mathematics Dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:26:18 GMT

In article <mp.721507113@news.ncsu.edu> mp@sparcler.cc.ncsu.edu (Manoj Kumar Patel) writes:
*However, Virginia "fans" never allowed that to happen.
*
*Goodman overthrew his very first pass (a few plays into the game), and
*the fans started booing right away. What a way to help a QB shrug off
*a missed pass and gain some confidence.
*
*This hurts the Cavs in many ways:
*
*1) any recruits attending were probably not impressed by the booing.
*2) the offense never really got a chance to get settled.
*3) any bowl scouts there will (and should) assume that booing fans are not
*   likely to pay big bucks to attend a bowl game.
*
*Any thoughts? Explanations from Cav fans?

Just goes to prove what I've always said: UVa fans (hey, no offense here folks)
are BY FAR the rudest fans I've ever had to deal with.  It's almost as if some
(not all) students have the "my-school's-better-than-your-school" attitude.
Yes, I've hissed at a rival's fan in my day, but I've never walked up to someone
and cussed them out for no reason BEFORE the game started - although it happened
to me multiple times over 2 different games at UVa.


-- 
Jeff Butera                 DISCLAIMER: I claim absolutely nothing.
Math Graduate Student
N.C. State University       "Still looking for a witty quote." 
jvbutera@math.ncsu.edu                              -Brad Halls
From: johndoe@samadams.inmet (johndoe)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Big 8 Preview reviewed(11-10)
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:48:50 GMT
Reply-To: johndoe@inmet.com (Bus error - core dumped)
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.

In article <1992Nov10.072358@mccall.com> scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis) writes:
>Sat(11-14)
>	CU @ KU		 1:00pm

i was of the understanding that this was going to be one of abc regionally
telecast games at 2:30cst.  also, if it is not, this may be one of the games
you can get by calling your cable operator and asking them if it will be
available.  they probably choose one game by default, but if you request a
specific game and live in an area with a small cable company, you may very
well be the only one requesting an alternate game, and they may grant you
your wish.  (of course, there is a pay-per-view style fee for this service,
but then what do you expect from the "free" enterprise system?)

>Sat(12-5)
>	KSU v NU(Toyko)  9:00pm

is there no national tv coverage of this game (perhaps espn)?

>--
>Scott D. Davis <scott@mccall.com>       The McCall Pattern Company
>(uucp: ...!widener!depot!mccall!scott)	615 McCall Road
>(800)255-2762, in Kansas (913)776-4041  Manhattan, KS 66502, USA

-johndoe
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: atchison@violin.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison)
Subject: OSU attendance (WAS: Re: Glen Mason to Ohio State?)
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:55:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.122546@mccall.com> scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis) writes:

>I have wondered the same thing...I guess it is the prestige of the
>school(we're talking football).  OhioSt has a bigger stadium.  Better
>fan attendance(although I don't know about OhioSt's attendance lately).

This year will mark OSU's highest attendance yet.  Even though they have had
three non-sellouts already, each still exceeded the old capacity.  Some of the
new seats they added aren't worth $21, so people don't pay it.  But you can
still count on 90,000+ every home game.

-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
 Mark Atchison, a.k.a. <atchison@cis.ohio-state.edu>; Graduate Student in the
Computer Science Dept, THE Ohio State University (NOT an Ohio State University)
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: STANFORD/ARIZONA TRASH
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 01:07:35 GMT

In article <1dmr5bINN7dn@spica.usc.edu> valdis@spica.usc.edu (Valdis Kalejs)  
writes:

> Usually I try to refrain in getting into a flame war dealing with worthless
> jibberish such as what is mentioned above but just can't help it this time.
> It has become very evident that all what USC opponents seem to care about
> is to do thing like count how many times our band plays a practicular song
> and such, instead of showing any intrest or pride on what their own football
> team is doing.

Maybe it's because USC doesn't provide adequate competition anymore.

> ...because we are surely proud to talk about ours. Which band would you be 
> proud of? 1. A band that has made numerous TV and movie appearances,

I'd be proud of the Naked Gun appearance, especially given that the
soundtrack of another band is overdubbed (according to the credits).

> 2. A band that has been exposed on a Grammy-winning album, or a band that
> likes "exposing themselves" in a diffrent way in public.

Good exposure is important.

> 3. A band that has had such artist perform with them during halftime
> such as Neil Diamond

Ooof.  I am overwhelmed.

--
************* "How about a little fire, Scarecrow?" **************
Orin Day, Code 664.1                    oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov
Hughes STX/NASA       GSFC Laboratory for High Energy Astrophysics
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: elsonliu@leland.Stanford.EDU (Liu)
Subject: Re: USC Arizona
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 01:30:55 GMT

In article <26064@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>
> So how much is USC favored by to beat the Cats at home? Hopefully
>the Cats will be underdogs as they have done well of late in that
>position. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe that Arizona was
>an underdog against UCLA, Stanford, CAL and WAshington. Granted they
>were favored against NMSU but that really doesn't count. 

Well, I may be wrong, but I had heard that Arizona was 12 and USC 11
last week.  With USC's lost to Stanford, and Arizona's win over
Washington, I doubt Arizona will be the underdog.

>
>			gln
>

.....Elson.....

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: lein@cat.uucp (John Leinaweaver)
Subject: Re: RU assistant coach arrested
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway NJ
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 14:14:11 GMT

In article <TROCH.92Nov7195519@gandalf.Rutgers.EDU> troch@gandalf.Rutgers.EDU (Rod Troch) writes:
>>>>>> "Kevin" == Kevin Klinge <kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com> writes:
>
>
>	Kevin> I only thought it was bad when someone arrested is
>	Kevin> found to be guilty.  Interesting.  My paper didn't
>	Kevin> mention that Jeter had already been put on trial and
>	Kevin> convicted.  Hmm, I'll have to check this again...

I don't recall anyone stating he was guilty, only arrested (if being towed to 
the police station in cuffs and booked is what they call being arrested).

one can remember a few Rutgerites calling PSU players guilty before any
trial and conviction - but no, there are no double standards on the net.


>
>I agree Kevin, its a shame that people are jumping to conclusions.
>Lets hope this doesn't put a damper on the program and RUs spirit.
>

Cincinatti 26, Rutgers 24


John L

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