From: HOLFELTZ@LSTC2VM.stortek.com
Newsgroups: alt.mythology
Subject: Re: The creation of Eve
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:27:03 GMT
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering

In article <1992Aug12.225822.1@indyvax.iupui.edu>
tffreeba@indyvax.iupui.edu writes:
 
>
>In article <16841C78E.HOLFELTZ@LSTC2VM.stortek.com>, HOLFELTZ@LSTC2VM.stortek.com writes:
>
>>>The Sumerians had Tiamat the dragon (a type of serpent,) the mother of
>>>Chaos, being defeated by the sky god and cut up into the Earth and sky.
>>
>> This is merely describing planetoid orbits, near misses and finally
>> a collision of one of the moons of Marduk.  After being broken into
>> the asteriod belt and what is now the earth, Tiamat was no more.
>
>(Sigh... I have to ask.)  What's a Marduk?  And how does this "discribe"
>planetoid orbits?
>
>>>The Greeks had Gaia defeated in Her last attempt at primacy (the
>>>challenge of her son Typhoeus the dragon/serpent) by Zeus the sky god.
>>
>> See above.  Female only because we all come from mothers, and the
>> natural assumption is MOTHER EARTH.>
>
>I see above and I see this.  What does it have to do with the sentence in
>question?
>
>>>There certainly are possible connections between these myths and the one
>>>of Adam and Eve and his primacy and her alliance with a serpent.
>
>> Examples?  Sources?  I must investigate before believing
>
>No examples except the ones given.  No sources except my mind.  As stated
>just some thoughts.
>
>>>As to the idea of the rib being a phallic symbol:  this idea too may be
>>>reflected in the Greek mythos.  Some trace Aphrodite to a version of the
>>
>> The Greek myths can be trace back to the Akkadian and earlier Sumerian
>> ones.  Therefore any phallic symbology is a "throw in" and can not
>> be given credence.
>
>Give definition of "throw in" and explain why credence can not be given.
>
>>>Great Goddess in Asia Minor.  Her later birth myth, that has her being
>>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Inanna, Ishtar & a half-dozen other names for the same goddess, who rose
>> through the ranks by marriage, betrayal and assorted tactics.  She never
>> rose to more than the rank of 15, with four other females with higher
>> rank (25, 35, 45, 55) than she in the pantheon of Gods.  Given the Hindus
>> river, she wasn't satisified, but wanted the rank of the fifty-names.
>
>Sources?
>
>>>born from the severed genitals of Uranus, may be a wilder rendition than
>>>that which comes to us from the Hebrew tradition.
>>
>> Ishtar isn't even involved during the creation of Adapa etc, and has
>> no relation to the A&E story.
>
>Huh?
>
>>>Just some thoughts.
>>>
>>>BTW there are many places on Earth with higher than background radiation
>>>that occur naturally and have jack to do with prehistoric nuclear conflict.
>>
>> Undoubtly, but there are pictures of the Sinai area from 115 miles up, which
>> show a large burn circle.
>
>Where can these pictures be found and who says it is a _burn_ feature.
>Define burn feature and how it manifests itself in a photo from 115 mi. up.
>
>
>> PS: One thing I have noticed, is many people know lots of myth stories,
>> but do they know what they mean.
>
>Again, give us the sources of your knowlege.
>
>Thomas Freebairn
 
1)  In the future, please indicate where textual deletions occured!
 
2)  In the next few days, I'll dig up my references/sources and response to your
    questions.
 
1)  Read some of the Baby-lonian creation tales.  At some reading would help.
 
A poor Wayfaring Stranger [some say, a Strange One] in a strange land,
 
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