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From: dmunroe@vcd.hp.com (Dave Munroe)
Subject: Re: More Gun Control
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:19:26 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
Keywords: Kennedy's car has killed more people than any of my guns

A. Jing Hippy writes:

>Once again, I can't *believe* that I'm watching where I'm going and yet am
>about to step into this anyway.

Heh.  I can relate to that.


>But we don't *need* the guns.  If they weren't around, then that's 1400
>people that would still be here today.

There are also people alive today because a gun saved their life; that happens
not infrequently in this city.

I don't *need* to shoot metallic silhouette or 1000 yard matches, but I do it
because it's fun and, model citizen that I am, do not endanger anyone's
life.  However, my guns can be used to protect myself or my home if the need
arises, and I want to be able to have that option.

-Dave
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: nolan@twg.com (Patrick Mc Goohan)
Subject: Allusions (was More Gun Control)
Keywords: look at the vein in his temple throb
Reply-To: nolan@twg.com
Organization: The Agency
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:40:40 GMT


In article <1993Jan21.142318.9951@bbxrbk>, russ@bbxrbk (Russ Kepler) writes:
[stuff]
|>-- Russ "I am a man, not a number" Kepler

"They've given you a number, and taken away your name"

Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: Phrases that Fill Me with Dread
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 04:28:40 GMT

diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) writes:
] 
] we'd be exposed to the "public"...

I don't Know, but it just worries me...

ciao
drieux



-- 
MajorModernDayProblems: 

sometimes, a thing will happen after another thing, 
and they may not be connected.....
From: egev05@castle.ed.ac.uk (B A Page)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: My trip out West (long)
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:45:34 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <18476@autodesk.COM> booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.180933.26711@twg.com> nolan@twg.com writes:
>>|>First !Peeve experience back on the East Coast:  Being picked up at JFK
>>|>by Jim Dare, who identified himself by holding up a placard that said
>>|>"Squick Me."

>>Dat boy shows promise. Booter, do we got an official office for him to fill?

>Peevetown Greeter.

Hold on - I should have nominated Alex Vr********** for this post -
turning up in a pub in London wearing a tee-shirt with "I'm feeling
peevish" written on it.  I seem to remember it was to have been a
baseball cap with "I'm right and you're not" in large letters across the
front but this item must have got lost in transit.

Babs
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Subject: "Don't give the people what they want, but what they NEED" (Was: More Gun Control)
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<1jhbv0INNaa6@umbc4.umbc.edu> <1993Jan19.230523.28900@igor.tamri.com>
	<1993Jan21.132452.1981@dg-rtp.dg.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:45:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.132452.1981@dg-rtp.dg.com> cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy) writes:

< But we don't *need* the guns. 

	Jing, do you really, really, really, really want the Federal
	Government to get any further into the business of deciding
	what people do and do not *NEED*?

	One would assume that a 40-something-year-old-hippie
	would have just a teensy bit more ability to, as my
	dear old dad says, "Follow that critter down the road
	and see what it eats" than to proclaim what Don and Russ
	and I do not *NEED* to own in the way of inanimate objects.


ObPeeve: shortsighted people with utterly no knowledge of history.
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Subject: Re: Orientals . . .
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<1993Jan21.001948.11789@bbxrbk> <C18Jpq.DK1@vcd.hp.com>
	<1jntn1INN3a0@umbc4.umbc.edu>
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 00:12:19 GMT

<In article <1jntn1INN3a0@umbc4.umbc.edu> potler@umbc.edu (Laura Potler) writes:

<related peeve: anyone who gets on the airwaves and claims that they have the 
<  solution to all of our problems but, in reality, does nothing to solve 
<  them. 

	You, too, Potler? 

	Already?

	My gosh, the Inauguration was just a couple of days ago....
	
<-l "isn't that what televangelists are for?" p

	"Put your hands on the MTV...."
From: egev05@castle.ed.ac.uk (B A Page)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Smug Ex-Oxbridge types (we hate 'em)
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:26:31 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University Department of Smug Ex-Oxbridge types

In article <mhart.728001579@blackjack> mhart@blackjack.dt.navy.mil (Michael Hart) writes:
>In <y5Kls*B01@prolix.apana.org.au> dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton) writes:
>>!Peeve: Playing the 'dictionary' game

>Also sold commercially as "Balderdash".

Or on British TV as a nauseatingly smug game-show entitled "Call My
Bluff".   This involved lots of smartarse Ex-Oxbridge* types (Frank Muir et
al) pontificating about their knowledge of the English language and
generally leaving the audience with a feeling that they would like to
stuff the microphone** up the bottoms of all the participants.

*Of which Jeremy is indeed a fine example

**Substitute blunt instrument of your choice

>General!Peeve: games.  Love 'em; almost any type.
>	Specially Trivial Pursuit, Outburst, cards (hearts, spades,
>		cribbage, gin), Rummy-O, Uno, and on and on.

Or Bridge.  

Babs (Terminal Bridge addict)

P.S. - There will be a prize (unspecified) for the first person who
spots the blatant hypocrisy in the above post
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,rec.games.misc
From: dmunroe@vcd.hp.com (Dave Munroe)
Subject: Games (was: Re: Peeve du jour)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:39:40 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
Followup-To: rec.games.misc

> mhart@blackjack.dt.navy.mil (Michael Hart) writes:


>General!Peeve: games.  Love 'em; almost any type.
>	Specially Trivial Pursuit, Outburst, cards (hearts, spades,
>		cribbage, gin), Rummy-O, Uno, and on and on.

Hearts, eh?  I like lots of card games, but Hearts is my favorite.  I've got
a variation that adds a bit of spice to it: the winner of a round gets to
reassign a rank for the next round.

For example, if I've won this round, then after the next deal and before the
pass, I could make Kings rank between 8's and the 7's.  In practice, this
takes on two common forms:

	Lowjack: where a card is designated to rank lower than the deuce
	         (pretty hairy when Queens are ranked this way)

	 Hijack: where a card is designated to rank higher than the ace


Peeve: we used to play Bridge every lunchtime in the Tek cafeteria; no one
here seems to play cards.

-Dave (note Followup-To)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: geoffm@netcom.com (Geoff Miller)
Subject: Re: Literary peeves  
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: Peninsula Deadheads, Inc.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:33:53 GMT



In article <1993Jan27.194820.27369@netcom.com> obrien@netcom.com 
(No parking EXCEPT FOR BOB) writes:

>Funny thing/peeve is, that I didn't even _imply_ what I thought of the
>material, just that I'm glad I read it and understand it.


Peeve:  So many books, so little time. 



Geoff

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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Subject: Re: More Gun Control
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 19:07:03 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.182917.314@wetware.com> diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
writes:
>You been hanging out with drieux lately?
>(of course he wants mortars and claymores
>and a whole bunch of other stuff I can't
>either remember or pronounce...)

Wow, can I come too?

[And thus, from humble beginnings the Peevetown Militia was born...]
From: russ@bbxrbk (Russ Kepler)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: More Gun Control
Date: 21 Jan 93 00:34:57 GMT
Organization: russ at home in Albuquerque New Mexico

In article <1jih1dINNoe8@umbc4.umbc.edu> potler@umbc.edu (Laura Potler) writes:
>i'm addressing the yahoo issue. some yahoo gets a gun and doesn't touch it
>except to masturbate. what's the point of having a weapon if you don't know
>how to use it? 

What's the harm of having a piece of blue steel in a drawer?  I'd say
that there's little harm, or at least as little harm as in buying a
bike or a butcher knife and not using it.

>obgunstory: which reminds me of a story i heard before new years about 
>these texans who insist on firing their guns into the air to ring in the 
>new year, believing that the bullets go into outer space. the local sheriff 
>commented that the main problem is that some of these fun lovin folk don't
>know when they're vertical after all that booze. hey, you texans: any 
>confirmations?

And drunken folks frequently hop into cars and roar the wrong way on
freeways, killing many innocent folks.  What of it?  Drunk people do
really stupid things, and always will.  Take away firearms and they'll
more stupid things with something else - maybe a few even more stupid
that firing firearms in random directions (something that has a low
survival rate in Albuquerque).

But yeah, consider this a confirmation: there are idiots that fire
guns in non-vertical directions as noise-makers.  This is sometimes
done in celebration, and is illegal pretty much everywhere you go.
It happens in Texas, Los Angeles, etc., whereever there are yahoos.

>>Statistics from the National Safety Council Accident Facts, 1991 edition.
>
>ooooooOOOOOOO, statistics! now i *am* impressed.

The numbers don't need to impress, but to show something: the danger
that you feel might well be misplaced.

-- 
Russ Kepler, posting from home   russ@bbx.basis.com, bbxrbk!russ@bbx.basis.com
"It's better to be quotable than to be honest" - Tom Stoppard
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich)
Subject: Re: More Gun Control
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 18:54:18 GMT

In <C1Jqs3.2q2@vcd.hp.com> dmunroe@vcd.hp.com (Dave Munroe) writes:

>curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin) writes:

>>there are two reasons why people commit crimes:
>>
>>(1) because it's fun.
>>and (2) because it pays.

>Certainly those reasons are true, but there not the only reasons.  The guy
>who is on an $85 per day coke habit (or whatever), is going to get those
>85 bucks no matter what it takes, and it's usually crime.

Why's he doing the coke, Dave?  Because it is FUN!

At least I've HEARD that coke is fun...
  -Bill, pure as the driven snow
From: forson@equinox.unr.edu (Melissa R. Forson)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Squirrelly newsreader software
Date: 21 Jan 93 11:12:03 GMT
Distribution: unr
Organization: School of Mines, University of Nevada, Reno

Peeve:  How come I can't see my own articles when I post from this noozreedr.

Peeve:  People who use periods instead of question marks at the end of
        questions.

Peeve:  I still hate raisin cookies.


Malcolm Carlock (malc@unr.edu)
Not Melissa.
From: zursch@whizkid.wpd.sgi.com (Jeffrey B. Zurschmeide)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Pets (was Fleetwood Mac, Go Own Your Way!)
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:07:00 GMT
Reply-To: zursch@whizkid.wpd.sgi.com (Jeffrey B. Zurschmeide)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <ATAYLOR.93Jan26191635@gauss.nmsu.edu>, Nosy writes:
	So, is there a great horned toad-frog in Stevie
	Nix's throat nowadays, or is that really her "voice"?

She's chanelling Carol Channing.

J(say it five times fast)Z
From: bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: More Gun Control
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:48:10 GMT
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.

In <1993Jan23.045816.18676@netcom.com> geoffm@netcom.com (Not Of This Earth) writes:

>!Peeve:  Fellow former military types who'd no doubt understand why I want 
>         a MiG-21 of my very own, even if they *are* FuckingSquids(tm).

I gotcher FuckingSquid, puddleboy!

Nautically,
  -Bill
From: yarvin@cs.yale.edu (Norman Yarvin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: More Brat Control
Date: 28 Jan 1993 16:52:17 -0500
Organization: Yale Computer Science Department
NNTP-Posting-Host: cathy.na.cs.yale.edu

Incidentally, anybody with a real interest in this matter should look in
sci.military, where there recently was a thorough discussion of bullet
physics.

shampton@jarthur.claremont.edu (Scott M Hampton) writes:
>In article <1k9bd0INN7kj@CATHY.NA.CS.YALE.EDU> yarvin@cs.yale.edu (Norman Yarvin) writes:
>>shampton@jarthur.claremont.edu (Scott M Hampton) writes:
>
>>The plain fact is that terminal velocity can be greater than Mach 1.  
>
>Not with bullets in free-fall, laughing boy. We WERE talking about bullets.

Those of us with brains in our heads were talking about bullets.  You
were making sweeping and incorrect statements about the world in general,
and trying to intimidate people with them.

Anyway, your statement is (at long last) true, for some definition of
"bullet".  However I'd be willing to bet an APFSDS-DU penetrator---the
mother of all bullets, so to speak---would exceed Mach 1 in free fall.

>> I'm not going to corroborate this fact, since I prefer just denouncing you.
>                                    
>Typical debate style for a Yalie. Smug east-coast prep boys. Harumph.

In this debate, I have every reason to be smug.  Even though I am neither
an "east-coast prep boy" nor a "Yalie"---the latter epithet should be
reserved for the local undergrads.

>>Some of us have other means of procuring our entertainment than using our
>>knowledge to intimidate those who do not share it.
>
>I'm really sorry to hear that, Yarvin. There are few better justifications
>for good entertainment than a nasty intellectual shoving match.

But you see, if someone has not learned a subject, it's just too easy to
attack him.  It is unsporting.  The people to attack are those who think
they know it, but actually don't.  Such as the animal rights people, or
yourself.

> Especially
>if the bloody affair makes the sublime translation into a balls-to-the-wall
>my-cock-is-bigger'n-your-cock full out character assinating well-poisoning
>assault on the other participants entire identity.
>
>Wanna play?

I wouldn't try that, if I were you.  Not on this subject, anyway.  Given
the amount you know, it'd be like bringing a knife to a gun fight.

--
Norman Yarvin						yarvin@cs.yale.edu
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: dmunroe@vcd.hp.com (Jesus Hernandez Christ)
Subject: socks!
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:03:32 GMT
Organization: S.O.C.K.S!


I hear this ad on the radio every day as I drive to work:


she: It certainly is dark in here.  Is the light burned out?

 he: No, the light is luz.

she: The light is loose?

 he: Yes, and if you'll stand on this chair, you'll silla luz light.

she: See a loose light?...!   What a wonderful way to learn Spanish!


(luz = light;  silla = chair)


Geez, what a dumb way to learn Spanish - or any other language.  This might
work if all you want to know are 12 words and no grammar when you go to
Tijuana.  I cannot believe anyone could learn a language this way.  Suppose
our translator used this technique in delivering a message from the President
to the Iraqis and we could hear the mnemonic sentences he was using:

Hillary: We intend to enforce the no-fly zone and uphold the U.N. resolutions..

(translator's thoughts): A kudu dabs my twanger firmly.  The yellow sun boils
Achmed's hoof-soup, but goats may sleep inside for half-fare...

-Dave
Xref: sparky alt.peeves:19567 alt.rush-limbaugh:15106 alt.fan.rush-limbaugh:13779
From: eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Rush Myth #307
Keywords: Hate with a smile and a tie is still hate
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:54:08 GMT
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.
Response: So is liberalism

ez012344@chip.ucdavis.edu writes:
=Rush Myth #307: He's Always Polite
=        Contrary to the whining insistence of Dittoheads, Rush Limbaugh is 
=anything but polite, either to his guests or his subjects.
=        I turned on the TV at 1:15 a.m. local time and found RL in that 
=vaunted high-ratings time slot (OK, fine, it's really the "bubba" slot, which 
=attracts either males coming off their factory shifts or males who weren't 
=successful in the local bar scene).

One data point does not give you the general trend of a graph.

I wouldn't call the time Rush comes on here (12N) the "bubba slot"
around these parts. However admittedly 1:15A is the "program the stupid
VCR to stop blinking 12:00 all the time" slot.

Besides, after a night of struggling through mathematical analysis of
cellular adhesion, it's good to have a break.
 
=        Not five seconds into watching his show and he was calling some media 
=hound "this idiot" for critiquing talk radio.

What was the "idiot" criticizing Rush about? About not taking calls from
idiots who really want him to push their "hot buttons" so they can rant
and rage about how "he doesn't care," or he's "a bigot," or "rude to his
guests or his subjects"?

=        Same old RL, I thought, as I flipped to something more interesting: a 
=test pattern set to the music of the Romantic Furs.

I suggest you read a book. Less stressful on the eyes. (Unless you have
to do homework.) 

=Dan
=who bets that if RL had the courage to take guests, he could move into better
=time slots
	Depends on the guests, but I think his show would go down the
tubes like Whoopi's. I don't watch Whoopi because I think she's a better
actress than a "talk show/couch talk" host. I don't think Rush would be
a very good John McLaughlin-type one-on-one host either because as he
points out, people listen to him because of his opinions, whether or not
they agree with them.
	I don't know if you actually listen to the radio show, but if
not, I suggest reading some of the radio summaries. The last one I saw
was for Jan 19 93 where Rush took calls only from those who voted for
Clinton. One of the shows last week had a very good caller who
disagreed with Rush (who worked at HP) talking to him about
international business.
	Rush is rude to those who are contemptuous of him or go to him
with a "closed mind," and especially to those who want to make him look
like an idiot.
-- 
Emil Thomas Chuck	eyc@acpub.duke.edu	BSE in BME in 1993
"You just can't promise something like that just to get elected if you
 know there's a good chance that circumstances may overtake you."
	- Bill Clinton, East Lansing MI debate, Mon Oct 19 1992
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.tasteless
From: geoffm@netcom.com (Not Of This Earth)
Subject: Re: Peeve du jour
Followup-To: alt.peeves,alt.tasteless
Organization: DesRonSubPacLantComNavWingPac, Pearl Harbor, HI
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 04:37:09 GMT



In article <C19qnx.8wr@vcd.hp.com> dmunroe@vcd.hp.com 
(Dave "Pecksniff" Munroe) writes:

>My peeve is that a vomitory isn't what I thought it was.


Peeve:  People who won't let the other shoe drop.

Well, what's it all mean, Mr. Natural?


Peeve:  People who are too goddam lazy to get off their ass and go grab
	a dictionary.



Geoff

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From: root@antipope.uucp (Superuser)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Shocked Beyond ALL BELIEF!!!!!
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:04:11 GMT
X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2)
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mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson) writes:
>
>In <1993Jan25.151635.659@st-andrews.ac.uk> ccjm@st-andrews.ac.uk (Colin Charles James MacDonald) writes:
>
>|Would you be more shocked to learn that prostitution is legal here in stuffy 
>|old Britain? It's only *soliciting* that is illegal. What's the difference?
>|How should I know? Solicitors are prostitutes that get caught?
>
>I thought solicitors were attorneys?

Well, solicitors and prostitutes both set out to screw their
clients ...

-- Charlie Stross
   charlie@antipope.uucp
   charlie%antipope.uucp@ibmpcug.co.uk
or:
   charless@scol.sco.com
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: shampton@jarthur.claremont.edu (Scott M Hampton)
Subject: Re: More Gun Control
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:30:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.014844.14393@msc.cornell.edu> bickham@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Scott Bickham,C17 Clark Hall,56079,2737038) writes:
>From article <1993Jan28.004746.17267@netcom.com>, by geoffm@netcom.com (Geoff Miller):
>> In article <1993Jan26.180958.22771@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu
>> 
>>>even so, the bullet comes back down at the same speed that it left the
>>>barrel.  it has to come down somewhere.
>> 
>> Not!  When it leaves the barrel, the bullet has the force of the propellant
>> (gunpower, for those of you in Rio Linda) behind it.  Coming back down, on
>> the other hand, it only has tha acceleration of gravity working on it, less
>> resistance from the air.  In simple terms, on the way up it's being pushed, 
>> but on the way down, it's only falling.
>> 
>
>Alas, another one of my idols has fallen.  As soon as it leaves the barrel,
>the only external force acting on the bullet is gravity and air resistance.
>Neglecting the air resistance (ahich is roughly proportional to, and
>oppositely directed to the velocity), the speed will be the same when it
>returns to the same height as the barrel.  Air-resistance will make it
>a little less, but not by much compared to the muzzle velocity.  Hope you're
>feeling better tomorrow Geoff, although I imagine that you're busy reading
>through your AMOK catalog in your spare time.

Look, Scott, Physics 1a just isn't gonna cut it. The bullet leaves the
barrel of most firearms at extra-Mach velocities. Thus the crack. When in a
free fall, however, the speed of sound is the ultimate limit on velocity.
You are wrong, you lose. Prepare for Geoff and I to double squick your vacant
cranial quarters in a game of Split the Melon-Head. 

Geoff, I get the back.....and we will have to synchronize as I doubt there
is even room for one REAL ManTool(tm)* in that cramped little skull.

*Trademark Geoff Miller, 1992

-- 

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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: obrien@netcom.com (No parking EXCEPT FOR BOB)
Subject: Re: Parsley, Sage, Rosemary in TIME
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 09:53:57 GMT

donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) writes:
>
>Ten minutes later, the phone rang again.  I had my 32 shot .44 magnum
>ultra-mag assault pistol out and had drawn a bead on the phone, before
>Gillian pushed my arms up and answered it.  Fortunately, it was a
>wrong number.  But later in the night, Gillian's friend called.
>
>Anyone need spare phone parts??????


Choose one:
a:  .44 reloads were 'squib' loads, no destructive power to speak of
b:  nothing recognizably "phone parts" remained
c:  phone was actually manufactured by "Western Electric", explaining 
	near-indestructability

I can't think of any other possible explanation


Peeve: any equipment made by, or labeled, "Northern Telecom"

!Peeve: "the Flip-Fone, the phone you can own"  quite possibly the
	last _quality_ consumer telcom gear made by GTE


	Bob "grew up in a PT&T family" O'Bob