HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Subject: Re: Loosing chars with ZyXEL 1496E+ and Coherent 4.0.1
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 04:31:38 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Reply-To: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)

kosta@blues.kk.sub.org (Kosta Kostis) writes:

> This is a modem (ZyXEL 1496E+) / Coherent (4.0.1) problem.
> 
> I'm running Coherent 4.0.1 on a i386SX/16 with 2 MB and a ZxXEL 1496E+
> having real trouble connecting them. I have never faced these problems
> with my old Hyundai 2400 bps internal modem. The ZyXEL 1496E+ is
> connected to a multi I/O card with 16450 UARTs, so I thought, I'd better
> run at no more than 19200 bps. I use device "/dev/com1fr" for the modem.
> 
> Characters get lost between the PC and the modem. "at&t8" shows clearly,
> that characters get lost, so using another UUCP suite like Taylor won't
> help (much). I guess there's some trouble with my device driver.   :-(

I think the basic problem is that your machine isn't fast enough to handle the
port at 19200, even though it's using hardware flow control. I suspect some
flaw somewhere means that incoming character overruns can still happen despite
using RTS/CTS signalling, although I'm just speculating based on my
(low) expectations of PC hardware and the software that runs on it. I use a
U-1496E on a 16Mhz 386SX but the serial port in question has a 16550 on it.
You need to either get one of those or slow down your modem (probably
dramatically).

						- k
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From: ed@invid.mwc.com (Ed Bravo)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Working lex for v4.0?
Date: 31 Dec 92 04:26:01 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

>
> Does anyone know if MWC has released a working lex for v4.0?  I get a
> core dump when I try to run the following code (after it's been
> lex'd and compiled).
>
> Randy Wright's port of flex is even worse (flex is bad, not the port): it
> creates an ever-growing lex.yy.c file.  Sheesh.
>
> Anyway, this code works with UMAX 4.3 (bsd) and NeXTSTEP 3.0 (also bsd)
> without a hitch, and it's logically correct--to me anyway.

LEX had a problem at one time, but you can download the new LEX off of
the MWC BBS.

> Regards,
>
> Pred Bundalo
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From: root@rwsys.wimsey.bc.ca (Superuser)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Bison and tin
Date: 28 Dec 92 20:53:19 GMT
Organization: RWSYS Exporter BBS system

hcp@csx.cciw.ca (H.C. Pulley) writes:
> >I took a copy of bison 118 from raven yesterday. It compiled, but
> >dumped core on the grammers in the documentation. I found some pointers 
> >that needed to be cast and it seems to work ok now. Did anybody else have a 
> >hard time getting it to run properly?
> 
> Yeah, I had trouble with bison 118.  I have since ported bison 119.  If you 
> still have trouble with 118, I can upload 119 to raven and people can give it a
> try.
> 
> bison 119 has worked with every yacc and bison code I have come across so far.
> This includes f2c.
> 
> Harry
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> 
Please do, Harry. Although my copy of 118 seems to be working perfectly,
I found the docs to be extremely useful. If 119 offers anything new,
I want it.
Randy Wright

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From: kenji@reseau.rd.macrofield.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Coherent 4.0.1 /dev/lp*: name incompatible with MS-DOS
Date: 27 Dec 92 03:13:23 GMT
Reply-To: kenji@rd.macrofield.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake)
Organization: Macrofield Corporation, Toyonaka-City, Osaka, Japan
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Michael Willett (wizard@teal.csn.org) wrote:
: 	The anser is in the FAQ.  (Who takes care of it anyway?)  :)
: 	Coherent lpt ports and MS-WHAT ports are different.

Well, I wonder WHY MWC made it different. *sigh*

// Kenji
From: ray@rgm.com (Ray Mendonsa)
Subject: RSAREF, RIPEM, or PGP ported?
Organization: RGM *nix - Sacramento, CA
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 19:18:09 GMT


Has anyone ported any of the above packages to Coh yet?

If not, I gather the key would be untangling the ANSI'isms in the code.
Does anyone have a sample makefile that implements unproto successfully?
It would be a good starting point.  Also what version of unproto works
well with Coh?

Thanks from someone who gets quickly bored of doscp'ing files around
just to read them.  :-)

Happy new year!
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From: GREGL@DELPHI.COM (Greg Law)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Colorado Systems - Conversation
Date: 21 Dec 92 23:27:58 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

For what it's worth, I paid less than $200 for a Colorado tape drive,
which is significantly less than a SCSI tape drive of similar capacity.
If I had an infinite budget (as some of you seem to profess you do), I
I would have a 486DX/2-66, 2GB SCSI drives, a SCSI streamer, and Interactive
UNIX. But I, like many others, do not have infinite budgets so we buy what
we can afford.

And what difference does it make whether or not the tape is so fast it
smokes on a backup? I perform all of my backups late at night while I'm
sleeping, so I could care less if it takes 10 minutes or 6 hours. Besides,
it does the job very well thank you and I applaud MWC for developing drivers
for the QIC-40 and QIC-80 drives. . . I suspect these are the drives most
folks will use with Coherent because they are priced in a league with
Coherent -- inexpensive.

        -- Greg
From: van@teal.csn.org (Claude W. Van Horn)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: tar with Coherent 4.0.1
Date: 28 Dec 92 12:50:47 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

root@rwsys.wimsey.bc.ca (Superuser) writes:
: tn@darktow.GUN.de (Thomas Neugebauer) writes:
: > Hello!
: > 
: > I've massive problems with tar extracting under Coh 4.0.1.
: > I got cnews from raven and try to unpack it. 
: > 
: > tar xf cnews.tar
: 
: Try ustar.. it works much better:
: ustar -xvf cnews.tar
: 
tar works fine on my coherent 4.0.1, I have used it for many programs
  tar xvf progname.tar and the thing unpacks itself into its standard
directories.  

My question is, how do you know where to have the program when you unpack it?

I tried vn, cnews, nn and tin trying to find an easily installable
newsreader and directories and permissions floated all over the place -
and nothing worked.  I know it is largely my inexperience with unix, 
but is there an easy way to know -- a standard (so to speak) or do
real Unix programmers have the inside track and I am hoplessly lost ;->

van!!

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From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Size of mail message for uux?
Date: 27 Dec 92 16:09:02 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats

In article <921123695@disco.rgm.com> root@disco.rgm.com (System Administrator) writes:
>I have gotten a couple of rejected mail from my sites uux when trying
>to send some uuencoded files, and it only seems to work with larger
>files, is there a limit on the size of a message for uucp transfer?

Rmail, on some sites, does have a limit on the size of mail messages.

The limit is often around 65k.

Usually, UUCP and news should not have a limit on file size.

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From: dfilip@colornet.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Loosing chars with ZyXEL 1496E+ and Coherent 4.0.1
Keywords: modem 19200
Date: 2 Jan 93 15:36:44 GMT
Distribution: world
Summary: Using a modmem at 19200
Organization: ColorNet Information Systems

Craig Harding  writes:
>kosta@blues.kk.sub.org (Kosta Kostis) writes:
>> I'm running Coherent 4.0.1 on a i386SX/16 with 2 MB and a ZxXEL 1496E+
>> having real trouble connecting them. I have never faced these problems
>> with my old Hyundai 2400 bps internal modem. The ZyXEL 1496E+ is
>> connected to a multi I/O card with 16450 UARTs, so I thought, I'd better
>> run at no more than 19200 bps. I use device "/dev/com1fr" for the modem.
>> 
>> Characters get lost between the PC and the modem. "at&t8" shows clearly,
>> that characters get lost, so using another UUCP suite like Taylor won't
>> help (much). I guess there's some trouble with my device driver.   :-(
>
>I think the basic problem is that your machine isn't fast enough to handle the
>port at 19200, even though it's using hardware flow control. I suspect some
>flaw somewhere means that incoming character overruns can still happen despite
>using RTS/CTS signalling, although I'm just speculating based on my
>(low) expectations of PC hardware and the software that runs on it. I use a
>U-1496E on a 16Mhz 386SX but the serial port in question has a 16550 on it.
>You need to either get one of those or slow down your modem (probably
>dramatically).

Because I've heard people state that you need at 16550 to run at 19200, I
thought I'd mention that I am running a TwinCom 14400/V42bis at 19200 with
a 16450 (no buffering), and very rarely do I get any UUCP errors (receive
about 1MB in news traffic a day). However, I have a 386/33 w/64K cache, which
might make a difference over a 386/16. The point is that it appears as though
the 16550 is only required for >9600 on slower machines.

Regards,

Dave.

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From: michael@jester.GUN.de (Michael Gerhards)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Slow IDE perf. fixed!
Date: 25 Dec 92 00:43:04 GMT
Organization: private
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

kestas@lith.UUCP (Kestutis Sliupas) writes:
> 	I would like to report that mkfs on my IDE drive increased
> the performance 4-500%.
> 	
> 	A couple of months ago, I measured my IDE performance as
> @27Kbytes/sec. for read/write. (Seagate ST-1144A, 8M Memory, 386-25)
> This was not acceptable. I posted to the net and support@mwc.com,
> and received many suggestions.
> [...]

After getting iozone, I tested the performance of my drives ( st3120a and
Maxtor 7120a ) and I was surprised. The default-values gave the following
results:

st3120a read: 146KB, write: 26KB, Maxtor: read 62KB, write: 30KB
( both wiith iozone 6 256 ).

Under DOS, the performance was 957KB/sec for the seagate, 780KB/sec for the
Maxtor and now I wonder, why Coherent's I/O is so slow. Is it the way
Coherent 'speak' to the drives, or are just the values totally wrong ?

I tested several values but I didn't get more than 150KB/sec.

If someone has values for one or both drives which will speed them up,
please email me, 'cause I want to swap my root-partition to from the maxtor
to the seagat and I would be happy, if the performance will rise.

Michael
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From: magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Need help with ide installation on 4.0
Date: 30 Dec 92 08:42:30 GMT
Distribution: w
Organization: DarkTower Software
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


 (joe@chaos.cs.umn.edu) wrote:
: We have an ibm l40 sx (386 sx).  When we try to install Coherent

Coherent doesn't work on MCA machines.

-Louis
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Socket Emulation
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 00:24:57 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand

A month or so ago I read somewhere (possibly on the Coherent TCPIP mailing
list, which has been very quiet if not defunct) that someone had a socket
emulation library available for Coherent 4. I'm trying to port a mud (CI Mud,
a smallish disk-based server that is probably feasible under Coherent,
networking aside) and I need to be able to replace all the socket code to get
it running. I'm assuming that the emulation code will use some other form of
IPC, to allow processes to talk to each other on the same machine as if they
were using sockets.

If someone can tell me where I can FTP the stuff or can email it to me I'd be
very thankful.

						- k
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From: kkress@phent.UUCP (Kenneth R. Kress)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: v4.0 reboot command 
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: That's Entertainment BBS
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 23:33:18 EST

Joseph Perry (jep@baugo.miles.com) wrote:
> Olaf Matthaei (root@kwcom.in-berlin.de) wrote:
> : Jim Hodges (jim@pisaro.enet.dec.com) wrote:
> : : 
> : : I've noticed that the reboot command doesn't appear to work. After
> : : issuing the shutdown 
> : : and sync commands, I issue the command  reboot, and my system just sits
> : : there...
> : : 
> : : Is this a "feature"(known/reported problem) ?  Anyone else have a
> : : similar experience
> : : with this command?
> : : 
> : 
> : I think, this is an hardware problem by issue motherboard or keyboard.
> : So I never heard about this.
> : 
> : shutdown, sync, reboot works fine.
> 
> With Coherent 3.2 `reboot' worked like it should on my computer.  With 
> Coherent 4.0.1a, `reboot' only displays a message that I should press 
> the reset button, it doesn't actually reboot the machine.  
> 
> BTW my computer is a Gateway 2000 386/33 MHz with a Micronics model 80386 
> ASIC cache system motherboard with a Phoenix ASIC 1.10 M11 BIOS.
 
Ditto for me. I have a Gateway 2000 486/33mHz. It worked under 3.x.x and stops
under 4.x.xrx.
				Ken.
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: Questions regarding swapping and memory
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Organization: Udo Munk's private BBS
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 22:29:59 GMT

Louis Giliberto (magus@drktowr.chi.il.us) wrote:
: Udo Munk (udo@umunk.GUN.de) wrote:
: : COHERENT 4.0 uses a flat 32 bit memory model, there is nothing
: : like extended/expanded memory. You've linear access to the whole
: : memory available in your system.
: 
: Er, just out of curiosity, do they pull the old "1 CS 1 DS make it look
: like a PDP" trick?  The the virtual mem will be page swapped instead
: of segment swapped I guess.

COHERENT 3.x is 1 CS 1 DS like the good old PDP11, for COHERENT 4.0
demand paging and segment swapping could be possible.

: : The limitation is that COHERENT supports a maximum of 16 MB memory
: : yet, because of the DMA controllers with only 24 bit addresses.
: : This is for ISA bus systems, maybe later it supports more memory
: : with EISA bus systems.
: 
: Maybe I'm ignorant, but couldn't this be doubled almost instantly by
: putting the text segment in higher memory where the DMA doesn't need
: access and the data seg in lower where it could reach it?  For internal
: kernel buffers you could just DMA to low physical, and page swap it to
: where you need it.  After all, the OS has control over the descriptors
: and could change the protection ring as needed.

If you have demand paging and swapping the DMA controller also has to
swap pages in the text segment to/from the disk.
Sure can it be realized with buffers in the kernel, this is how windows
and SCO make more then 16MB available. Under SCO you'll find a performance
loss up to 30% if you increase the memory above 16MB. I guess they copy
buffers with the CPU to memory above 16MB instead of using the MMU.
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From: dragos_m@pi-bucuresti.th-darmstadt.de
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Coherent-Linux
Date: 22 Dec 92 09:42:59 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>


        Hello !

        First of all, I LOVED Peter's AT&T saying (that one about the modems) !
        Now I have some questions: as I started to use Linux too (but I found
it less documented than COH, less finished, etc.), I have a problem with my key-
board, as only (?) the US layout is supported. My keyboard has British layout,
and I really need to have the right scheme for '#', '@', '|', etc (by the way,
I fixed the bugs in COH's UK driver for both 3.2.0 and 4.0.1 versions; I'll be
happy to send them if needed). Any suggestions ? Then, as I have NO FTP access,
could anyone supply me a complete Linux forum email address ? I have some ques-
tions for the boys downthere... (I think comp.os.linux is not complete for me).

        Lots of thanks in advance !

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From: kenji@rcac.astem.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Coherent 4.0.1 /dev/lp*: name incompatible with MS-DOS
Date: 28 Dec 92 04:54:12 GMT
	<9212271118.30@rmkhome.UUCP>
Organization: RCAC Project, ASTEM RI, Kyoto, Japan
In-reply-to: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP's message of 27 Dec 92 16:18:21 GMT

In article <9212271118.30@rmkhome.UUCP> rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
]   Coherent and all other commercial UNIX systems are different than MSDOS.
]   Coherent looks at the parallel ports in a logical manner from low address
]   to high address.  MSDOS has it's own wierd way of addressing the ports,
]   in that it justs takes the first parallel port it finds to be lpt1, no
]   matter what it's memory address is.  

Well, if you REALLY want to find out about LPTn: assignments, you have
to look into MSDOS work area.

BTW I'm not talking about whether the naming convention is logical or
not; I just complain because I got confused with the naming
difference. And I think it's not only me who would get confused by
this. So I wrote it on the NetNews. No intention to do the value
judgment.

]   Usually, it should only matter if you have more than one parallel port on
]   your system.

Agreed. BE CAREFUL, anyway, if you want to hook up a printer on an IBM PC :)

// Kenji
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From: root@gornem.UUCP (Superuser)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: w-news hist file
Date: 3 Jan 93 15:55:19 GMT
Organization: gornem
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

could some one tell me the best way to handle the history file for w-news
                                                        
                                                   thank you
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: hcp@csx.cciw.ca (H.C. Pulley)
Subject: Re: TIN117 problem
Organization: Canada Centre for Inland Waters
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 14:38:04 GMT

In article <9212285401@drktowr.chi.il.us> magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto) writes:
>This was wierd.  I just compiled TIN117 off of mwcbbs about a week
>ago, and it locked on me for some reason.  I posted an article
>to a newsgroup, and it said "Artilce Posted" at the bottom, but
>then it crashed somehow.  I had to "kill quit PID" it from
>root.  It quit fine with the message TIN: trap (quit) [ ya know,
>the usual quit message].  It wouldn't respond to any keystrokes.
>
>Anyone else have a similar problem or know anything about this?  It
>never happened to me with TIN116.

I had this happen to me.  It turned out to be inews that was hanging for me.  
It was doing this because the /usr/lib/news directory had its ownership 
changed (by me of course, shooting myself in the foot) from news to usenet (the
admin user).  inews was hanging because it couldn't write its lock file.  It
would time out eventually, but not after a long time.

Check the ownership and permissions on /usr/lib/news (I think that is the 
directory) and the ownership and permissions on inews, etc.  If inews and 
several other news programs can't write their lock files then they wait (as 
they should; this is the reason for lockfiles!).

Harry
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