From: bobsarv@microsoft.com (Bob Sarver)
Subject: Re: Biblical Errors
Date: 06 Nov 92 04:17:30 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.





|> =======================================================================
|> 
|>   I Kings 16:6,8
|>     Baasha, King of Israel. died in the 26th year of Asa's reign over Judah. 
|> 
|>   II Chronicles 16:1
|>     In the 36th year of Asa's reign, Baasha built a city.
|> 
|> =======================================================================
|>

(pwhite)
/Thank you for something intelligent. I will go study, but maybe you
/can help, how do we know that both are the same guy i.e. what shows that
/it isn't two different kings with the same name?


Simple.  Does the record of the ascension of the Kings of Israel mention
that two different kings named Baasha reigned during the time of Asa's 
reign over Judah?

No.




|>   And how does the Bible answer simple questions on the death of Judas?
|> 
|> 
|>   What did he do with the 30 silver pieces?
|> 
|>   Who bought the field?
|> 
|>   How did he die?
|> 
|>   Where did he die?
|> 
|>   Why is it named the field of blood?
|> 
|> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> Acts 1:18-19:  
|> 
|>   With the reward he got for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he
|>   fell headlong, his body burst open, and all his intestines spilled out.
|>   Everyone in Jerusalem heard about this, so they called that field in their
|>   language Akeldama, that is, Field of Blood.
|> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> Matthew 27:3-8
|> 
|>  When Judas, who had betrayed him, saw that Jesus was condemned, he was
|>  seized with remorse and returned the thirty silver coins to the chief priests 
|>  and elders.  'I have sinned,' he said, 'for I have betrayed innocent blood.'
|> 
|>  'What's that to us?' they replied.  'That's your responsibility.'
|> 
|>  So Judas threw the money in the temple and left.  Then he went away and
|>  hanged himself.
|> 
|>  The chief priests picked up the coins and said, 'It is against the law to
|>  put this into the treasury, since it is blood money.'  So they decided to
|>  use the money to buy a potter's field for foreigners.  That is why it has
|>  been called the Field of Blood to this day.
|> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> 

(pwhite)
/Judas problem, I think is solved by a little analysis. 
/If we assume that Judas hanged himself we could say that someone
/came along and cut him down and that he then fell headlong and his
/intestines spilled out.

Not hardly.  The passage is very clear:  he fell headlong, [then] his
body burst open, [causing] all his intestines to spill out.  



(pwhite)
/Adding a
/As far as the purchasing of the field goes, we know from other passages
/that Judas was a bit in love with money, so we have two ways to go there.
/One is that he kept back some of the money and threw the rest in at the
/priests.

Not possible.  The second scripture says that he returned the 30 pieces
of silver.  That's the entire sum that he was paid for the betrayal.  
It is not mathematically possible for him to have bought a field, and 
still returned the full 30 pieces of silver to the high priests.  



(pwhite)
/ The other is that he threw it all at them and the priests 
/went and bought the field in Judas' name since it was his money and they
/didn't want to be associated with it. Something on the order of the
/legal record showing that it belonged to Judas.

That is not possible.  A potter's field is just an area provided as a common 
grave for "unknown soldiers"; people who have no known kin, or who are too 
poor to be buried in a proper cemetery. 

It's one or the other:

[1] With the reward [the 30 silver pieces] he got for his wickedness, Judas 
bought a field;

[2] he was seized with remorse and returned the thirty silver coins to the 
chief priests and elders. 
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