From: ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen)
Subject: Re: ISLAMIC WORLD NEWS (28th)
Organization: Motorola Panther Project, Chandler, AZ
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:15:41 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.012845.2478139@locus.com> jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000) writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.232337.16173@panther.mot.com> ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen) writes:
>>In article <3747@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU> aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh) writes:
>>>In article <EXILE.92Sep7110036@wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu> exile@gnu.ai.mit.edu writes:
>>>>in fact, i believe that the israeli-palestinian problem will be
>>>>greatly alleviated if all participants immediately fucked each other
>>>>in the line of a new jersey mcdonalds.
>>True,  but the PLO, et al has not recinded its stance on terrorism, it hasn't
>>agreed to officially admit that Israel even has the right to exist.  The
>>Infatada is still a VIOLENT revolt that claims more lives every day.  Of 
>
> YOU MAKE ME SICK,

Your post have demonstated you "health" way before I ever started replying on
the Net.

>
> ARAFAT JUST BOWED HUMBLY AND HUMPLY FOR ISRAEL, AND RECOGNIZED 
> ITS RIGHT TO EXIST.

Arafat has denied Israelis rigth to exist.

> WHAT AN IGNORANT STATEMENT YOU JUST SAID! 

It seem jle you have the corner on the ignorance 

>ARAFAT IS
> LOGICALLY KISSING ISRAEL'S APPROVAL FOR NEGOTIATION.  ARAFAT 
> IS STILL WILLING TO KISS iSRAEL'S BEHIND. 

Ah, tell that to the vixtoms of the Infatada, Israeli and Palastineans alike

> 
> IN FACT ARAFAT HAS BEEN CRITICIZED BY MANY PALESTINIANS FOR BOWING 
> HIS BEHIND TOO HIGH IN THE AIR FOR ISRAEL.
>
>jle
>

Time to repost quotes from jle beloved leaders.
John don't you just hate it when people have facts to back up their statements,
perhaps you should try it some time.

>
>	Arafat's support of Saddam Hussein certainly showed the 
>	world their honest intent for peace, all right!
>
>	As for acceptance of Israel's right to exist, let's just
>	peek at what Palestinian and other Arab leaders have said
>	since that momentous day of Dec. 14, 1988.
>
>
>Date: July 25, 1991
>From a Libyan televison interview with Yasser Arafat 7-19-91
>Q: Some people say that the Palestinian revolution has many times changed
>   its strategies and tactics, something which has left its imprint on the
>   Palestinian problem and on the Palestinian Liberation Front.  The
>   [strategies and tactics] have not been clear.  The question is, is the
>   direction of the Palestinian problem clear?  The Palestinian leadership
>   has stopped, or at least this is what has been said in the media, this
>   happened on the way to the dialogue with the United States, the PLO
>   recognized something called "Israel"...
>
>A: No, no, no!  We do not recognize the State of Israel.  We said
>   "recognition" -- when a Palestinian state is established.  It will then
>   decide if to recognize Israel or not.  When it is established, its
>   parliament will convene and decide.
>
>
>December 18 1988: Salah Khalaf (Abu Iyad), Arafat's Number Two
>
>"At first a small state, and with the help of Allah, it will be made
>large, and expand to the east,west,north and south...I am interested in
>the liberation of Palestine step by step."
>
>
>December 21 1988: Sheikh Abd El Hamid Sayekh, speaker of PNC
>
>"We must take and continue to ask for more yet, without offering
>concessions. Nevertheless, we are working to achieve what is possible in
>the present phase, and next we will demand more."
>
>
>Arafat, Jan 2 1989, Quatar News Agency:
>"The land of Palestine is the homeland of the Palestinians, and the
>homeland of the Arab nation, from the ocean to the Gulf.... The PLO
>offers not the peace of the weak, but the peace of Saladin."
>
>
>Jan 3 1989: Muhammed Musawi,2nd Command Leader of PFLP
>"The goal of the PLO is to restore the territories which were included
>within Palestine prior to the establishment of Israel in 1948...The
>Popular Front agreed to the establishment of a Palestinian state in any
>part of the lands which Israel has occupied as a temporary solution."
>
>Jan 23 1989: George Habash, Leader PFLP
>"The establishment of a Palestinian state must not be conditioned upon
>giving up the rest of Palestine. The price for establishing a state must
>not be the recognition of Israel's right to exist."
>
>Jan 23 1989: Abu Iyad
>In response to a request for the removal of article 19 of the PLO
>covenant which calls for the destruction of Israel.
>"We in the PLO do not accept the removal of article 19."
>
>Feb 11 1989: Abu Iyad, "Al-Watan" Kuwait
>"There was no PLO recognition of Israel, neither in the PNC decision in
>Algiers, or in Arafat's address to the UN in Geneva."
>
>April 9 1989: George Habash.
>"The decisions of the PNC did not mention in any manner whatsoever the
>recognition of Israel, and did not mention in any manner whatsoever the
>recognition of Israel's right to exist. We did not recognize Israel."
>
>
>May 21 1989: Nayef Hawatmeh, Leader DFLP (PLO 3rd largest faction)
>"We have recently launched a series of attacks against Israel and will
>launch more. Such attacks are a sacred right for our people"
>
>
>April 6 1990: Arafat talking to Fatah- a PLO faction.
>
>"Open fire upon the new Jewish imigrants - be they from the Soviet
>Union, Ethiopia or anywhere else......It makes no difference if they
>live in Jaffa (Tel Aviv) or Jericho. I give you explicit instructions to
>open fire. I give you my instructions to open fire against these
>imigrants. I will jail whoever refuses to do this. My words are not just
>a threat, they are the reality. From today on, I will incarcerate
>whoever refuses to obey my instructions."
>
>"Whoever thinks of stopping the Intifada before it achieves its goals I
>will give ten bullets in the chest."
>
>-- 

Thanks Ron Evans for the original compilation of quotes.

>Ron Evans (revans@math.ucsd.edu)




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>
Ron Feigen
ronf@panther.mot.com