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From: harrison@lclark.edu (Mark Harrison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: THE GRAVIS ULTRASOUND
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:04:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Oct13.170401.20617
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <2693.22.uupcb@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter) writes:
>like you said, about the SCSI and 16 bit 44.1K stereo digitizer
>add-on boards for the gravis Ultra, you said "so." but there is alot of
>users out there that want to have a multi-media kit, cheap enough, and
>digitize at 16 bit 44.1K stereo, I guess from what you are saying, if
>you don't use those features why get a PAS 16, I say to you, if you
>don't want those features, why didn't you buy a SB 2.0.

Terry, I've said this twice, and I'll say it just one last time.  I didn't
buy a SB 2.0 because I wanted a GUS.  They are not the same.  The GUS can
emulate a SB (although it's not as good as the actual thing,) but the SB
can't even come close to the abilities of the GUS.  Right now there isn't
much out there in the way of software for it, but I believe that will
change.  And when you don't take into account 16 bit and SCSI, the PAS has
nothing to offer for me.  It is just another (but better) SB.  The GUS
isn't.  It is something totally different and as far as I am concerned,
something better.

I'm not trying to convince anyone that what they have isn't as good.  ANY
soundcard is better that the PC speaker.  And the PAS is one of the best.
I am just trying to stop people from equating the GUS with the SB.  The
GUS is NOT another SB clone.  And that's the last time I'll say it.

Sorry for all the wasted space on this topic.  If anyone has any
disagreements with me, please use e-mail.


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From: tazzzzz@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Kevin Dangoor)
Subject: Word from Ensoniq
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:57:27 GMT

I actually managed to talk to a human at Ensoniq today, but the amount of
information I could extract was pretty limited. The person I talked to said
that the card is going to be released in January and that it was already done,
but they are setting up marketing materials and such for it. (Sounds like
a lame excuse to miss the Christmas season, huh?)

He did not have any specs on the card, however.

...Kev

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From: km4c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ke-Wei Ma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: ATI SFX midi option box?
Date: 11 Oct 92 23:53:25 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


    Does anybody know what the cheapest price is for the midi connection
box w/ Cakewalk software?  Obviously I can mail in the card that came
with my manuals directly to ATI with a check for $79 but I was wondering
if it cheaper any place else.  Anybody have pin-out specs for the
controller box?  I know that this has been done for the Soundblaster.

Ke-Wei 
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From: ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
Subject: Re: THE GRAVIS ULTRASOUND
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 07:05:01 GMT

In article <2692.22.uupcb@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter)  writes:
>I agree, like someone said to me in a post before, (forgot who), Gravis
>aimed the card at those that play games, and if they want to digitize in
>16 bit, 44.1K stereo, then they will have the option of purchasing the
>daughterboard.  I say, if you buy a sound card just to play games, get a
>SB 2.0.

If you take games seriously, as many people do, then before long, you
will not be satisfied with what the SB can pump out.  I, for one, am not
happy with my SB.  Sure, it was a relief from my PC speaker, but I've
become jaded with its 2-op FM and low-grade digital sample playback.

Phat.
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From: jon@chopin.udel.edu (Jon Deutsch)
Subject: PAS or GRAVIS???????????
Organization: University of Delaware - What state is that in?
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:34:12 GMT

OK soundcard-heads:

ALL BIASES ASIDE, I want a soundcard that will:

1) Let me sample 8/16 bit ----> MSDS (MIDI sample dump standard)
2) Provide very good (the best) SB emulation.
3) Reasonable price (add on prices are OK).

Which card do I buy?  

ANY and ALL info appreciated!


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From: gah@mvaxcs1.cse.nau.edu (George Howington)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Looking for "RUSH" mods
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:34:28 GMT
Organization: Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff AZ
Originator: gah@mvaxcs1.cse.nau.edu

Does anybody know of a good FTP site for modules (.mod, .stm,...)
based on the music from the rock band Rush?

Thank You,

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From: scarnie@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Stuart George Carnie)
Subject: Re: More notes on GUS
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 06:42:21 GMT


To the person who said the Gravis would have to resample the data...

I've read HEAPS of info on the Gravis and all that talk about it's capabilities say that it can mix and resample in realtime, with the onboard hardware..


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From: ross@kaos.b11.ingr.com (Ross Erickson)
Subject: Re: OS/2 and Ultrasound - Need to hear from you
Reply-To: ross@kaos.b11.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:41:10 GMT

>I can't believe that they do not think their is enough demand out their
>for OS/2 drivers!!  OS/2 has, at the very least, has been *shipped* to
>1.5 million people!

To keep this in perspective, I'm one of those "1.5 million" (if that's
a true number....) and for $49.00 who wouldn't!  It's now sitting on a
shelf and has been ever since the IBM box arrived.  So, yes there are
plenty of reasons why there's no hurry to develop this driver, from
Gravis' point of view.
>
>How many copies must be sold before they feel their is demand.

Add another 0.
>
>Oh well...I don't own a GUS, but I will call and tell them I will not
>purchase one until their are OS/2 2.0 drivers.

You'll be waiting a while.
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Subject: SBPro Basics
From: stericker_r@qis.dofasco.ca
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:31:00 GMT
Organization: Dofasco Inc, Hamilton, Ont. Can.
Nntp-Posting-User: stericker_r

HELP!!

I have a SoundBlaster Pro card and am new to this group.  I plan on mainly
using the card for games, but am interested in demos or classical music
for the SBPro.  How do I get started, is there a FAQ, a place where I can
download demos from?  All the usual questions.

This group has already helped, I have been looking hi and low for the 
serial number for my card, and I just read it was on the box (which is 
long gone!).  Hopefully they will still take the registration.

Thanks in advance,

Ray Stericker

P.S.  I am new to news net too!
From: roger@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Roger Petersen)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:18:54 GMT
Subject: Re: Soundblaster 2.0 and Space Q 1 (VGA)
Organization: MID, Home of the Happy Dinosaurs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard, boxall@qut.edu.au writes:

| SPACE QUEST 1 (VGA) PROBLEMS WITH SOUNDBLASTER V2.0
| ---------------------------------------------------
| When I install the soundblaster option the following message 
| appears during startup:
| 
| 	UNABLE TO INITIALIZE MUSIC HARDWARE!
| 
| The program then continues but without sound. It works fine on 
| the ADLIB setting and other software.

I had the same problem with Sierra's "Castle of Dr. Brain" on my SBPro.
It worked in "Adlib" mode, but not Sound Blaster mode.  (Hard reset lockup.)

I got a new version of "Castle of Dr. Brain" (dated sometime in 1992,
instead of mid-91), and it works fine now.  Perhaps Sierra can give you
a new version of their sound driver.

| Hardware config :
| 
| 	Soundblaster V2.0
| 	486Dx-33Mhz
| 	8Mb RAM
| 	Trident SVGA card

Identical here too, except only 4MB RAM.

Roger Petersen
roger@sr.hp.com
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From: orb@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Randolph Turner)
Subject: Re: More notes on GUS
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 15:43:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.045352.4804@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> ramsey@spot.Colorado.EDU (Mad Poo Bandit) writes:
>In article <gting.718625865@sfu.ca> gting@fraser.sfu.ca (Gabriel Sii Kuok Ting) writes:
>>As if there's not enough mention of the GUS out here. :) Just tried WinMod
>>on my GUS, and it really sings! The sounds were a lot clearer and cleaner than
>>on my old SB. Sort of like turning on Dolby C. No more of those hissing 
>>sounds that always seemed to accompany the sounds on the SB. Of course, the
>>mod files were not as good as the midi files that came with it...
>>
>>DOS based mod players were a disaster though. Trakblaster wouldn't even
>>run while ModPlay was sloooooooowwwwwww..... even without xms/ems. 
>>
>
>Okay, so when do the GUS modplayers show up?  I mean, how hard could that
>be?  You don't have to deal with FFTs or anything, just let the card handle
>it right?  That would impress me.  And 32 channels (or 16 panning stereo) at
>once would kick major bootie over the old protracker 4 channel stuff.

  I don't know all of what the GUS is capable of in hardware, but if it can
only change the rate of the sample during playback (pitch, whatever), that's
not enough to unburden the processor for .MOD playback. For instance, how
would the hardware deal with something like arpeggio all by itself?

  Randy



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From: carli@ufrcs1.enet.dec.com (Bernhard Carli)
Subject: Re: Is the Gravis Ultrasound's MIDI MPU-401 compat?
Keywords: GUS
Reply-To: bernhard@decum.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Munich FRG
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:51:16 GMT



>>I guess the title says it all... I need to  find a soundcard with 
>>MPU-401 compatibility. Also, does anyone know if I could sync to 
>>tape with any of the soundcards (hopefully with a MPU-401 compat).

>The Ultrasound has a standard MIDI implementation (with UART 6850).  It
>is probably not MPU-401 compatible, like the SBpro.

>Timothy

The latest I heard when calling Gravis was that it supports MPU-401 in
Standard Mode (whatever it is). If you need MPU-401 in enhanced mode 
UltraSound isn't the right choice. On the other hand I think most of the
upcoming MIDI-Software will support also UART-MIDI and will run on top of
Windows. By the way: SBpro is *NOT* MPU-401 compatible.

Bernhard

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From: ehobbs@nmt.edu (Eric Hobbs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Real-time Sample/playback with the GUS????
Date: 11 Oct 92 17:31:56 GMT
Organization: New Mexico Tech


I thought I remember someone saying that the GUS could sample and
playback at the same.  Is this true?  If so, would it then be possible
to do realtime effects processing with a guitar plugged into the back
of it? 

Thanks,

Eric Hobbs
ehobbs@JUPITER.nmt.edu
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From: Orakel@sarpih.no (Jens Kr. Kirkeb)
Subject: Re: Scream Tracker 3??
Organization: stfold Ingenirhyskole
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 08:05:16 GMT

In article <Bw54rr.1GF@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> ismith@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Chris Smith) writes:

>  About Unreal,  Has anybody heard music after the second sequence??  The one
>with the ships flying around. After that sequence I dont get any other music.
>The demo plays through ok. The reason I ask is that my roomates computer at
>home plays music all the way through. It is a 386sx/16 with a SB. His
>computer here at school is also a 386sx/16 doesnt play the music also with
>a SB. I have the same problem with a PAS+ on a 386/40. Does anyone know
>whay the music might stop playing. We are running at about 610k conventional
>ram.

I've had the same problem myself. It works well on my friends 386&486 w/SB 
Pro 1 and SB 1.0, but does not work on my 40Mhz 486SX with SB 2.0. If you 
run the parts separate, by using 'Unreal P#' it works. Substitute part #.

Jens Kr. Kirkeb
From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Ultrasound - New manual confusion and such...
Date: 15 Oct 1992 22:46:02 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sam.civil.ubc.ca


I think everyone misunderstood what I said in my last message on info
from Gravis. What I meant to say is that they realize the manual is
not perfect and they will make it better for the next version. Same
goes with the rest of the package. Like all products, it gets better
as new versions come out. What this also means is that we probably
won't see the next manual until Ultrasound II or whatever it's called
comes out. As far as software goes, I'll see if I can get latest
fixes and such and distrubute them. But they just released the card.
And some parts hasn't even seen the card yet. Everything else is still
in the planning stage.

Sorry about the confusion.

Thomas.
From: jjs@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Jay Jeffrey Schuh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: NEEDED: WIN3.1 SoundBlaster/MCV
Date: 11 Oct 1992 04:26:09 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: jjs@csd4.csd.uwm.edu



	I recently purchased a SoundBlaster MCV and am having
	trouble making it work with Windows 3.1.  The drivers
	for the SB 1.0 and 1.5 both do not work.  It tells me
	to contact Creative Labs and get the drivers specific
	for the SB/MCV.  

	Does anyone know where I can get these?  like a FTP site
	or a Creative Labs BBS.

	Thanks

	Jay

	jjs@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

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From: bjornhk@dhhalden.no (BJORN HAAVARD KLEVEN)
Subject: Re: GUS vs. PAS 16
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:24:46 GMT

>
>Well, I don't know what you mean by 'hobbyists', but I can tell you that the 
>Finnish demo-group behind the 'Unreal' demo ('The Code Blasters' I think 
>they call themselves), a very good demo with SB-support, are recieving a lot 
>of attention from Gravis, and have had the GUS for a long time already, 
>making some stuff for it (don't know exactly what Gravis has put them to do, 
>but rumours would have it that they're making a .MOD-player/tracker)
>
>    -=* Bjorn :: bjornhk@sofus.dhhalden.no
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>                 BBS: 61-97 304/97 945
> 

Sorry for the mistake. The name of the Finish group is, of course, Future 
Crew.

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From: ramsey@spot.Colorado.EDU (Mad Poo Bandit)
Subject: Re: IRQ setting for Soundblaster 2.0
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 04:48:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.125027.56328@qut.edu.au> boxall@qut.edu.au writes:
>What is the best IRQ to use with the Soundblaster 2.0
>card. It is rediculous to default to IRQ7 as this is 
>used by LPT1:
>

Why is this ridiculous?  How many times do you use the printer and the SB at
the same time?  Admittedly, it is possible under Windows, but I've always
just let Windows handle the conflict and never had trouble.


>What do other people use?
>
If IRQ 7 really bugs you, your next best bet might be IRQ 5 (LPT2 on AT's and
hard drive int on XT's) which poses no real threat on 286s or higher.

Mad Poo
From: kuh@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu ((Kevin Hill) Ext. Agent - Collier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: .MOD question
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:19:58 -0500

In article <1992Oct7.205846.26649@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, johnson@cps.msu.edu (Graham K. Johnson) writes:
> In article <1992Oct7.172322.17893@ra.msstate.edu> wrp1@ra.msstate.edu (William R. Payton) writes:
>>
>>Is there any program that can extract samples in .mod files and convert them
>>to .voc files or some other format?
> 
> You can use most MOD editors (i.e. Modedit 2.0) to save the individual
> samples to their own files.  You'll then need to get a sound file
> editor (i.e. Scoptrax) to convert the file from Amiga to PC format (.voc).
> Scoptrax is probably on garbo.uwasa.fi; you might have to look a
> little harder for moded200.zip (I believe that's the zip file name).
> 


Actually, you can save VOC samples from MOD files _directly_ with Scoptrax.
Just load the MOD and "amigafy" the whole file as a block. Then isolate the
sample you want to save using start point and end point and save as VOC.

You may need to tweak the sample rate to get the sample to sound "right".

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From: v062l48d@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Harold J Screven)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: MIDI Sample Dump Standard
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:03:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


    I'm not sure if this is the proper forum for this question but here goes
anyway.  Can someone tell me where I can get details on the MIDI sample dump
standard.  The MIDI standards organization seems to no longer be at the old
LA address.  I am also interested in the format for the system exclusive dump
of a sample from the Oberheim DPX-1 sample player which I believe is close to
the MSDS.  If anyone out there knows anything about either one of these
subjects, please drop me a line. Thanks.




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From: jon@chopin.udel.edu (Jon Deutsch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: the gravis ultrasound
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:09:50 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of Delaware - What state is that in?

In article <199213.3445.1405@dosgate> "yuri lee" <yuri.lee@canrem.com> writes:
|>What makes GUS interesting is its sound quality of synthesizer output.
|>I agree it would've been nicer if they had everything built into the
|>card from the beginning but the fact is that not all the people need
|>that stuff ( 16 bit sampling, SCSI ). Sure, some people use them and
|>need them. What kind of idiot would buy a PAS-16 if all he wants is a
|>sound card ?
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	The kind of idiot that wants to play games w/sound as well
	as sample high-quality samples for either his MIDI sequences,
	or just for plain old .wav files.


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From: ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
Subject: Re: THE GRAVIS ULTRASOUND
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 07:37:05 GMT

In article <Bw29qC.DJD@news.udel.edu> jon@chopin.udel.edu (Jon Deutsch) writes:
>In article <bjornhk.17.718975725@dhhalden.no> bjornhk@dhhalden.no (BJORN HAAVARD KLEVEN) writes:
>|>In article <1992Oct12.171112.14657@lclark.edu> harrison@lclark.edu (Mark Harrison) writes:
>|>
>|>What's so great about the GUS? 
>|>
>|>- The GUS has *32* sample channels (as opposed to the PAS & SB Pro's 2) wich 
>|>  can be used all at the same time, both for recording and playing
>
>
>	OK- here's the first nab:  What is a sample channel?
>	Does the GUS have 32 ocillators?  Any filters?
>	It still only has 2 DACs right?
>	Do tell!
>

To software, the GUS will appear to have 32 DACs.  In stereo, divide this
number by two.  To drive these channels, the software loads samples into
the card's RAM and tells each channel what to play, and at what pitch. 
The software also has control over the volume of each channel, as well
as its left-right panning if in stereo.  The card's hardware takes care 
of all the resampling and mixing.  I'm not sure about filters.

>|>- The GUS has up to 1 MB of Audio RAM, which will free up system memory and 
>|>  speed up operations
>
>	1MB of RAM isn't really all that much if you're talking
>	16bit 44Mhz samples.  Not much at all.  And forget stereo.
>

The GUS is a wavetable card... wavetables are very small samples, and
hundreds (well, 50+) can fit into 1M.  The card is not going to be used
as a raw sample playback device.  As for stereo, why not?  The panning
effects are all handled by hardware... so just load the instrument samples
into RAM, and have the voices play them, in stereo.  I'm not sure how
advanced the panning capabilities of the Ultrasound are... whether it
will add appropriate time delays or just twiddle the balance, I don't
know.  But there's no need to load stereo samples into the card's RAM.

Phat.
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