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From: greg@cs.washington.edu (Greg Barnes)
Subject: Surface mail to Clinton
Followup-To: send.email.instead
Organization: Judy Vickery Fan Club, Saarbr\"ucken Chapter
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 16:05:05 GMT

I'm looking for a surface mail address for President-Elect Clinton (no, I
don't want to send him a resume, just a short note that he will undoubtedly
never read).  Contrary to my e-mail address, I'm actually in Germany, so I
can't even do anything as simple-minded as grabbing a zip code directory
and using the proper address of the State House in Little Rock (even 
ignoring the fact he is no longer governor...).

Please send any reply by e-mail.  If you want similar information, also
send e-mail, and I will summarize to alt.president.clinton later.

                                Greg Barnes
                                greg@cs.washington.edu
Xref: sparky alt.president.clinton:1179 alt.politics.bush:14716
From: richardg@idca.tds.philips.nl (Richard Grear)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Clinton and black underware
Summary: Clinton and black underware
Date: 14 Dec 92 11:32:27 GMT
Reply-To: richardg@nofssrv.syssup.tds.philips.nl (Richard Grear)
Disclaimer: This is not necessarily the opinion of anyone else

Inquiring minds would like to know.....

Hypothetically, if one dreams of having a meeting with Clinton and a black
haired woman (in her mid fourties, whou had just bought some black lacy
underware) in a hotel room to discuss policy, and not understanding a word of
what goes on.... should one be concerned about one's sanity, or start 
looking forward to having dreams about loose teeth?
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From: s_titz@ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Future seeing in dreams.
Date: 11 Dec 1992 19:35:27 GMT
Organization: Fachschaft math/inf, Uni Karlsruhe, FRG
Distribution: usa
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In article <1992Dec10.043637.27053@midway.uchicago.edu> dsoconne@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <Bynu65.A65@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> swansont@sage.cc.purdue writes:
>>
>>      I just wanted to throw an idea up in the air that has been talked about
>>a few times on this newsgroup.  I just want to know how many people out there
>>have experience clairvoyance in their dreams and to want extent was this 
>>future-seeing.  And could you possibly state the time delay between the dream

Yes, I have had such experiences too. The most astonishing one was
with a delay of one or two days, where I dreamed about a certain town
I've never been to before, and the other or next-other day I was told
that I had to move to *that town*.

>I waited a week to check out the responses to your post,
>before I replied; unfortunately there don't seem to be
>any.
>Either no one cares to discuss this, or perhaps it is too fearful,
>or too rare.

Now I've got to answer ;-)

I would have answered soon but the topic has been discussed just a few
weeks ago and I didn't want to add any more redundancy. 

Your pessimistic assumptions are clearly wrong, I think. :-)

>I have had oh, probably 30-40 dreams in my adolescence (15-19)
>where I dreamed an exact moment. I don't know how else to describe
>it, but to use the phrase "exact moment."

Yes, I know what you mean. Has happened to me too.

>Until I read your post asking for details, I had forgotten about
>most of this: the power of fear in the (for now) unexplainable is
>considerable.

And this is yet one more of the irrational fears we all should abandon
for better...

Olaf
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From: kester@carson.u.washington.edu (Bill Dogbreath)
Subject: Re: cliff falling/hit bottom
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:15:53 GMT

> 
>     
> 
> 
> 
> 	I'm sure everyone has heard of the old addage, if you fall off a 
> cliff in your dreams and hit bottom, you will die. (1). how do "they" know 
> you will die if you hit bottom, you were dreaming and if you did die you 
> can't tell anyone what you were dreaming, right? (2). I ALWAYS hit bottom 
> when I fall off of a clifff(i'm still here....) I usually just get up and 
> run away after i hit.
> 
> any thoughts?
> 

Well, for what it's worth...

MY experience with falling and hitting bottom in a dream is that I usually DO 
die (in the dream, of course :) ) I feel no pain when I hit bottom, I just get
up out of my body and see myself lying there.  Usually I wake up shortly
afterward.

Hmmm, since I'm on the subject...  Once I died in a dream and didn't wake up
for a while.  I floated away from my body and over some grassy hills under an
eerily gray sky, figuring I was seeing the "landscape of the dead."  I floated
into a building that hadn't been there before I died, and inside were a lot of
people working in little office cubicles.  I got the impression that they
could see me but weren't paying any attention to me.  I thought this odd, 
because I certainly would have paid attention had I seen a ghostly figure 
floating through my office building. 
 
So I got to the end of the hallway and there was a woman sitting there at a 
desk.  She looked at me with a bored expression.  "Yes, what can I do for you?"

"I'm dead."

"Mm-hmm."  She looked back down and continued writing.

I am a bit thrown off.  "I mean, um, where should I go, what should I do?"

She scribbles something on a piece of paper and hands it to me.  It appears
to be some sort of identification form or registry card for the recently
deceased.  It is complicated in the extreme and trying to decipher it has the
effect of waking me up.

I told this dream to a friend of mine, who suggested that people working in the
afterlife often see dreamers who think they are dead, so it's a routine matter
to distract them to wake them up and get them out of their hair.

Amusing, yes?

Kester
From: cthomas@npal.rn.com
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: B&W and Cartoon Animation Dreams
Date: 14 Dec 92 01:03:08 EDT
Organization: PalNet -- Indianapolis, Indiana

I am just interested to know if anyone has ever had dreams in wich there
vision was altered to something like Black and White or all cartoon animation.
I have had black and white dreams,  I know that they were cause because
I was dreaming about Albert Einstein whom I've only seen black and white
photos of.  However I have also had dreams in which my world was totally
animated like in the movie Cool World except that this dream was about 12
years ago before that or Roger Rabit was out.  Another alternate vision
dream that I had was one in which my entire world was brilliant colorful
outlines with a black background.  I had this one because I saw a picture
that had a man drawn just with yellow and blue outlines with everything else
black.
	I would like to know if anyone else has had this experience.
					CHUCKBILL
From: kaminl@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Matt Garretson)
Subject: Re: Dying in dreams
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:50:50 GMT

In article <7630@stan.xx.swin.oz.au> h8eg083@stan.xx.swin.oz.au (Darren Gower) writes:
>A long while ago I too died, in a nuclear detonation dream (which I
>caused, as a matter of fact). There was a moment (as the explosion occured) tha

I had the exact same dream. Well, pretty much. After I woke up, I fell back
asleep and had the same dream a second time. As you metioned, it was 
somewhat pleasant, despite the subject matter. I remember very clearly
flying over the remains of the blast. Weird.

Where did your "explosion" take place? Mine was up in the arctic somewhere.
I was part of a team of scientists testing out a missile. We were on the
porch of some old house which was way out in the middle of nowhere,
surrounded only by ice & snow. Nearby was an iceberg with the missile on it.
I pushed a remote control button to launch it, but it just stayed there. So
I started to walk over to it, and it exploded. I thought, "This sucks." But
then I realized I was dead & started flying over all the destroyed buildings.
This last bit doesn't make too much sense since there were no buildings
around before the blast.

Is this a common type of dream? 
--
Matt Garretson                    :-)                 temporarily kaminl@rpi.edu
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From: abulsari@abo.fi (A. Bulsari)
Subject: Convincing characters you're dreaming.
Organization: Abo Akademi
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 06:22:53 GMT

In article <gj156879.724633034@cunews> gj156879@alfred.carleton.ca ( gj student 156879) writes:
>Recently while lucid, a friend of mine in the dream said "This isn't a
>dream!"  I was annoyed.  It was too a dream.  I grabbed the end of his

>                              Nik

I have been trying various things in lucid dreams, one of which is to
ask others if they understand that I am dreaming. Only one such dream
is well remembered (about one month back). Most of the people simply
ignored me. One person nodded as if to say yes. I tried asking this in
three languages, and the person seemed to understand them, giving me a
feeling that the communication (if any) takes place without a language.

I subsequently asked some persons in a lucid dream who they were.
Only one reply - one person said he was Tom Smithles (it sounded 
like that; I don't know the spelling.) 

I have earlier also asked the name of the place where we were in a 
dream. I did not get any reply.

I think I will ask other people next time if they are dreaming too.

With regards,

A. Bulsari

Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: frank2@odie.ee.wits.ac.za
Subject: Re: Tetris and Dreams
Organization: Wits Electrical Engineering (Novell Users).
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 12:16:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.022315.9372@wam.umd.edu> angelai@wam.umd.edu (Angela I.) writes:

>In article <102050@netnews.upenn.edu> wesley@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Wesley HRJ Gaus) writes:
>>
>>
>>I was just wondering if anyone has ever played Tetris or any other video game
>>and dreamed about it sometime later.  I recall playing Tetris a few times for
>>an hour or so and lateer that day I put my head down and saw the pieces 
>>falling and coudln't relax cause the pieces kept coming down. But for some
>>reason all the pieces always seemed to fit! Any else experience anythin
>>similar and, if so, is there a name for this occurrence??? Thanx.
>>

>...
>It kinda works for any repetitive (addictive) video game...  If you
>play it alot, especially letting yourself "tune out" while you play,
>you'll start seeing it whenever you close your eyes... 
>...

Same thing happens when relaxing after a long-distance drive. When one 
closes one's eyes, the virtual road just keeps on unwinding ahead. Any ideas 
on just what the brain thinks it's doing?
From: pdt@ufycorp.Unify.Com (Peggy Turner)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Faq...
Date: 11 Dec 92 23:50:47 GMT
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization

In article <uL2HVB2w165w@netlink.cts.com> eclipse@netlink.cts.com (David Gallo) writes:
>Could some one give me some advice or E-mail me the faq excerpt that 
>discusses lucid dreaming? I plan on experimenting with this for the 
>psychology unit in my Theory of Knowledge class and I would like some 
>information/tips & suggestions as to how to try it... TIA (thanks in 
>advance)
>
I too would like to receive some advice on lucid dreaming.  I have been
reading alt.dreams for some time now and find it fascinating.  I would
love any feedback from you.

THANKS
PEG


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From: sarah@admiral.uucp (Sarah Jane Attridge)
Subject: Caffiene
Reply-To: sarah@admiral.uucp (Sarah Jane Attridge)
Organization: The Grid/Waffle BBS, 203-661-2873, -1279, -0450, -2967
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:19:33 GMT

Well, I regularly take caffiene, in coffee, cola, or as an ingredient in 
headache remedies...The odd thing is, I seem to have become MORE 
sensitive to its effects since I have become a regular coffee drinker... 
I had always been under the impression that as your body acclimated to a 
chemical it would take more of it to have the same effect, but (at leats 
with me, with caffiene) it seems the reverse is true...

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From: Peter_Mcnamee@kumear.apana.org.au (Peter Mcnamee)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: BODY POSITION
Distribution: world
Date: 17 Dec 92 10:38:56 EST
Organization: The DUNGEON BBS

In a message dated Fri 11 Dec 92 17:16, Tarzan wrote:

 T> chance for success is much increased.  But it can be very difficult to
 T> lay
 T> still in one position allowing the sleep paralysis to take effect. 
 T> Has anyone
 T> got anything to add to this?

A lot of the literature states that one of the better positions to lay in
is with the head to the East.  Personally I've not found this to alter
things, but it may help some people.

What was your first Lucid dream like?  Mine first started with an
earthquake.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: cfs2b@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Chun Fai Szeto)
Subject: Dream Machine
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:59:22 GMT


	   I am an electrical engineering student and very interested
   in something more about "dream".  My thesis would be most likely 
   concentrating on the issues about dream and electronics. I read 
   some magazines talking about some University are working on a 
   machine which can help people falling asleep and even "select" 
   what types of dream they want to have. I don't know is that true 
   or not.  If anyone knows something more about it, please email 
   to me or post on the net.  Thanks in advance.



   Chun
   cfs2b@Virginia.edu
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From: angelai@wam.umd.edu (Angela I.)
Subject: Re: DREAM'92 UPDATE -- EXTENSION.  PARTICIPANTS PLEASE READ!
Keywords: DREAM'92
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:22:54 GMT

In article <aec1.724275549@crux1.cit.cornell.edu> aec1@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Allen Chen) writes:
>
>*** *** *** ATTENTION [Experiment DREAM'92] PARTICIPANTS!!! *** *** ***
>
>
Allen has asked me to repost the "instructions" for this experiment for
any new folks and/or to refresh people's memories, etc...

So, here it is, with the all-new, extended deadline...  :)

Remember, you don't
have to let me (or anyone) know if you want to participate in the experiment;
just follow the instructions below...  Happy dreaming!

***************************************************************************
Attempt to have a lucid dream any time (as often as possible)
between the dates of Friday, Dec. 4 and **WEDNESDAY, JAN. 20**.  When
you find yourself lucid dreaming, use any means possible to find
the scenario described below.  Attempt to interact with others there,
and look for "personal objects" that others may have left.  Try to
leave a personal object of your own for others to find.  

You are free to report to the Net that you made it to the Meeting
Place in your dreams, but please do not post any details about the
dream until the experiment is over.  Send email to our Third Person
(who prefers to be called a "judge" -- I don't know why, ask him) :)
containing all the details you can remember from the dream, especially
any personal objects you found/left.  He will save & post the messages
after the experiment, and if he sees possible correlations, he may 
write back, asking specific questions about what you saw/left/did...
(For example, if you left your wallet, he might ask for a description
of the wallet & it's contents.  Another person who said they found
a wallet would also be asked to give a description of the wallet & its
contents...)

Our Third Person/Judge/(whatever you want to call him) is
Allen Chen
aec1@cornell.edu

The description of the dreamscape is as follows:
*************************************************************************

Vehicle:  A large white cruiser ship with the words "S.S. Dreamers"
in large black letters on both sides, and the back.  Since it is a boat,
it can "sail" through any body of water (or anywhere else, depending on
how bizarre some of your dreams can get!) :)  The interior of the ship
has three decks, one for living quarters, one with a kitchen & a large hall 
for meals (and laden with lots of delicious food, as all cruise ships always
are!) :),  plus other rooms, including a game room, etc., and an
upper deck with "outdoor" games (shuffleboard, etc.), including a
swimming pool and other recreational activities.  All dreamers are welcome
to enjoy all of the ship's facilities, and they are invited to interact with
anyone else on the ship, and they may also look at and/or leave
objects by the swimming pool or in the dining room...


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From: Tarzan
Subject: Re: <none>
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:55:53 GMT

In article <16DEC92.00007011.0014@tscc.macarthur.uws.EDU.AU> ABLB000
<ABLB@musica.macarthur.uws.EDU.AU> writes:
>I don't see anything wrong with sinning in dreams, even when
>lucid, because your action cannot affect others in any way.
>If some criminals could lucid dream, then perhaps they could
>vent their "anger/frustrations/etc" that way, and the world
>could be a much better place...
>Mike Stone
>
>
>
O.K. O.K.  So what is sin?   To me sin is anything and I mean any thing which
causes you to be separated from the source of all life everywhere.  Some people
call 'it' Jah  some people call 'it' God.  Some people call 'it' Love  some
people call 'it' Life.  To me 'it' is everything that is helpful and good and
fun and special.  I can't really explain my relation to this force but I know
that I am happy and that I am growing and learning to really Live.  'It' has
taught, is teaching me to enjoy life and to give life when I can to help others
when possible to also learn to live.  I am glad this force is in my life.  
	If you begin to do things in your dreams that you know would be harmful to
others (if you did them in waking reality) and you continue on this track for
years I'd say you better watch out.  Usually these kinds of actions if repeated
long enough (even just in dreams) can affect your outlook on life.  It can even
ruin it.  
	Let's try not to get all flamed up over this response.  I didn't say anything
offensive accept for the posting of my belief in a force outside of the human
that has something to do with us.  And it is just that, my belief.  You don't
have to take it like I'm forcing something on you.
	Peace, Love, Happiness.  Life.                Tarzan

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From: bartlone@med.ge.com (Michel Bartolone)
Subject: Re: Never, ever, EVER allow me to go to China
Reply-To: bartlone@med.ge.com
Organization: GE Medical Systems
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 14:18:18 GMT

Write it all down in as much detail as you can...then make two copies..mail one to 
yourself..mail the other to a screen writer...see if you can make a buck off it...
---
sigs are like sound-bites..they never say enough, but frequently
are interpreted as saying too much.....bartlone@gemed.ge.com
From: wesley@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Wesley HRJ Gaus)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: CAFFEINE AND SLEEP
Date: 13 Dec 92 11:23:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I don't know if this happened to anyone else before but I remember this
happening to me exactly three times to date:
	I woke up early in the morning or sometime in the middle of the night
but I felt as if I were not awake but dead.  I could not move, yell, breathe, 
or say anything. I remember thinking that if I could just say something
I might be able to get help but it was seemed so hopeless.  I do not think
that this is the same as sleep paralysis because I actually felt as if I were 
dead and could not breathe, see anything, or do anything. I wanted so badly in
my mind to live again- I felt so helpless and had no idea what to do- I
remember that I couldn't even cry which I wanted to do so much cause I had this
strong feeling in me that my life was over with. After each of these episodes,
I refused to sleep for a couple of days because I was so much freaked out by
this. I feared that if I went to sleep again that I might actually die this 
time around.
	The last time this happened to me was when I was extremely exhausted
and was taking about 5-6 caffeine pills (Vivarin) a day. I never got the 
shakeys from them but I did do a lot of abstract thinking (more than I usually
do) when I went to bed on caffeine. Does anyone know if caffeine and this
sort of expereience I had are related???


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