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From: vsh@etnibsd.uucp (Steve Harris)
Subject: Re: Songs during breaks
Organization: Eaton Corp, Semiconductor Equipment Div., Beverly, MA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:42:49 GMT

Well, it's not really a song, and it was not during the break but, hey,
who's keeping score...

At the Fillmore East, they would sometimes show cartoons on the
lightshow screen between acts.  The one I remember was a very squinky,
almost R-Crumbian cartoon, in black and white, about a battle between
the good guys in white who collected sunshine in milk bottles and the
sinister forces that wanted to cover the town with darkness.

I don't remember the details all that well (it's been a few years, and
I was kinda high at the time :-), but I do recall the march of the bad
guys, wearing black clothes and hats, with long, drooping, sinister,
black handlebar moustaches.  As they mournfully took over the town,
they intoned this dirge:

	We're happy when we're sad,
	We're always feeling bad,
	We're happy...
	    when...
		we're sad.

Meanwhile, the sunshine workers sang a cheerful song whose only lyrics
I can recall were:

	Sunshine, sunshine ....


(FYI, a very popular, and very potent, formulation of LSD at the time
was called "orange sunshine" -- it came in little orange "barrels"
which would melt on your tongue and leave a definite orange aftertaste.)

In the final encounter, the good guys started lofting bottles of
sunshine onto the hordes of darkness.  When each bottle would break,
the sunshine would splash out and the black clothes would turn white,
the frown would become a smile, and the trudging feet would start
dancing!

I remember one instance where the feet kinda got separated from the
body (which had not yet been fully transformed) and he just sorta
slipped apart for a while -- the lower half dancing ahead while the
upper half was still several beats behind.  Somehow it seemed terribly
profound at the time ;-).


When the Allman Brothers played Great Woods a couple years ago, they
had a light show very much like the one from the Fillmore.  And they
had a cartoon before their show started (though not the same one).  So
maybe these cartoons still exist -- has anybody seen the one I
remember?

-- 
... Steve Harris - Eaton Corp. - Beverly, MA - vsh%etnibsd@uunet.uu.net
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From: Robert Stahman <RGS%UCSFHC@oak.his.ucsf.edu>
Subject: The Music Never Starts
Reply-To: RGS%UCSFHC@oak.his.ucsf.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 13:58:48 GMT


   The longest between song chatter I can remember was at Saratoga '84.
 The Dead just set a new attendence record, again, and we were about
 half-way through the first set.  Of course, many GA folks busted into
 the reserved section and it was way past capacity, Heads hanging all
 over the place:
     (not exact quotes but close from what I remember)
 Jerry: The management requests that you not hang from the rafters.
        Do to yourself what you will, but what if you fall on someone.
     (then Bob and Phil lighten things up with a joke)
 Bob: Hey Phil, my dog has no nose.
 Phil: No nose, how does he smell?
 Bob: Bloomin' awful.
 Crowd: (mix of boos and cheers)

 The show continued with a Stagger Lee I think, the Dead were banned from
 SPAC for many years after that, too bad, it was my favorite summer
 venue when I lived in NY.

                                                  Rob
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From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Re: New Context Dead
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:54:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.151838.27267@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> Tom_Jacobs@qms1.life.uiuc.edu writes:
>New Context Dead
>
>I just wanted to echo a bit of Kent Stewart's poetic post about hearing the
>dead's music Somewhere Else:
>
>Does this happen to others?  You stumble into some dead music playing on a
>radio somewhere, even in your own car, or on somebody's boombox, or a tape
>whispering out of little speakers at Kinko's, that it tends to sound
>*especially* sweet, even if it's a studio cut you've heard 10^6 times?
>

Yeah, i was in a toy store xmas shopping (really, i have a half-sister
who was 9 at the time, im allowed in toy stores) and I was sure i heard
garcia's guitar from somewhere. I finally tracked it down: "Foolish
Heart" studio version on the radio. What was so cool about it tho was
that it was a set-up designed to advertise those "dancing" toys, you
know the ones that move to music? In this case, they were flowers, so
there in the front of the toy store were three mechanical flowers
groovin to the dead.



>Tom "...get back to work if I had any...supervision!" J

my supervisor is probably reading rec.food.recipes or something now.


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From: pmeyer@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Philip Meyer)
Subject: Re: Seats Behind the Stage
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:38:48 GMT

In <BxzF17.Ftt@mcigate.apdev.mci.com> con@mcigate.apdev.mci.com (Con_Falvey) 
writes:

>I have a few questions about what its like to take
>in a show from seats that are behind the stage (my

>First of all, how is the sound?  If the sound is good, 
>how do they get it there and mix it properly?  

I *love* sitting behind the stage!  At Boston Garden last year I made my
way back there 2 of the three shows I went to.  The sound was great and
the surroundings were very mellow....lots of room to move.  The one down
side, though, is that you really miss out on the light show.

If there are seats behind the stage, there are always speakers pointed in
that direction hanging from the scaffolding.  Great views of the Hart and
Kreutzman (and all the action backstage...kind of fun during set break).

Phil
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From: rpierce@oracle.com (Russell Pierce)
Subject: Re: Chords: Lovelight
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores, CA  94065
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:42:07 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Nov13.161422.1759@cimage.com> wags@cimage.com (Bill Wagner) writes:
>Anyone out there know the chords for Lovelight?
>


	E and A


		Russ
From: davef@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Dave Fischer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: (Copy) Grateful Dead song poll
Date: 20 Nov 92 05:07:37 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

lstein@adobe.com (Larry Stein) writes:

>> 
>> Top three songs you would like to see the Dead cover (include lead
>> vocalist and any other insightful info.)

>> 3. Idiot Wind (Phil sings)

Wow - I've never thought of that, but I just pictured it in my mind's
ear, and it's perfect!
Somebody should send this in!

-- 
Dave Fischer    davef@gandalf.rutgers.edu
"Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell"
                                               - Edward Abbey
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From: Sheila Momaney <sheila_momaney@radmac1.cgl.ucsf.edu>
Subject: Re- New Context Dead
Reply-To: sheila_momaney@radmac1.cgl.ucsf.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:11:22 GMT

GatorMail-Q                   Re: New Context Dead
My best girlfriend and I left our nasty ol'boyfriends
in Newport Beach and headed to Monterey for the Laguna
Seca shows in '87. We were taking that long drive home
after a weekend of bliss (was Laguna Seca the best? YES!)
and slowly coming down.  The tape deck had blown out on
the Great White (our station wagon) so we were searching
in the night for tunes on the radio not too harsh on our
ears. Lo and behold, we both shrieked with joy to hear a
young Jerry singing "Morning Dew". Unfortunately, Michele
sped up a bit in her excitement and we were promptly nailed
by a radar gun.  "This isn't right!  Jerry's on the radio!
It's Morning Dew!  I've never heard that on the radio.  I
think I can outrun them!" After *intense* debate, Michele
took her time beaching the Great White and we heard most 
of Jerry.
Different context, yes.  Bad timing?  Definitely.
--Sheila
sheila_momaney@radmac1.ucsf.edu


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From: zane@ddsw1.mcs.com (Sameer Parekh)
Subject: Chicago in February?
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 01:09:30 GMT
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL


	I heard on my local radio station something about the Grateful Dead
in February. This is a Chicago radio station, so maybe they're playing
somewhere near Chicago in February? Does anyone have details? Thanks.
-- 
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From: pkemp@byron.u.washington.edu (Paul Kemp)
Subject: Can you help me? (tapes)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:48:02 GMT


Hi Everyone out there...I've got a little request for anyone who has a good
tape collection and a little time to spare.  I've been a Dead Advocate (Dead
Head just doesn't sound right) for 15 years or more, and I've been to 40+ shows.
However, I was disabled in 1983 and haven't seen a show since April 1984, Dead 
shows just aren't very wheel-chair friendly.  In fact, I lost touch with the
whole scene until I started lurking on the Net awhile ago.  
	
1984-1992, that's a long time.  I missed a lot of what the band was doing.  I'd
like to get some tapes from people that show the Dead for what they were worth
during this period...Not necissarily personal favs, but shows that people think
are stellar performances.  I'd like to get complete shows rather than just one 
set.  I don't have a lot to trade...the biggest problem being dubbing...I can 
get a second deck if I need to.  I can always make some tapes of other stuff for
ya...I've got a pretty extensive collection of music.  Or, I can certainly send
you blanks.   

If you've got a little time and some good shows, please enlighten me as to what has been happening.  Thanks for any time and effort.
Paul
pk

PKEMP@U.WASHINGTON.EDU

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From: Jeffrey.Hale@launchpad.unc.edu (Jeffrey Hale)
Subject: nye & npr
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:48:18 GMT

OK, I've never been to a nye show.  I am convinced that there is a causal
relation between this fact and my impaired intellectual, social, and
emotional development.  Oddly enough, money seems to be a little tight
that time of the year . . .

. . . but, remembering back through the mists of time, at least for
the five years or so in which I've been dead-sentient to some degree,
there's been that wonderful substitute fix of the National Public Radio
broadcasts hosted by Mr. Gans.  We could sit (or dance) in the comfort of
our living rooms, and dream of exotic locales, like Oakland.  These
broadcasts gave us the advantages of a) less predictability than tapes or
cds b) not having to work complicated machinery like stereos for the
length of a show or make decisions about what to play, which can be
difficult at sensitive times like 31 December, if you know what I mean and
I think you do, and c) it is generally preferable to the Dick Clark special.

So what gives this year?  Will my affiliate be playing Guy Lombardo tapes.
Or dare I hope for some live (though memorexed) dead?  Envision a vastly
expanded edition of the gdh, exorcising (and exercising) the ghosts of nyes
past?  Realistically, I suppose it's too late for the powers to arrange
such things if they're not already, no matter how plaintively and
voluminously we fill David Gans' e-mail box.  But I may try it anyway. 
Dare we hope that something like this is already in the works?

ciao
jeffrey
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From: lb04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Laura Bassi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: This & That
Date: 24 Nov 92 01:20:26 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

how do people?
  well, i just wanted to say in RE: the NYE show w/kesey and guido...i saw it
  on tv...I agree with Lara...Kesey thought those floating heads were some
  weirded-out dead prez's...at least some of the people _I_ was with were
  agreeing with him :) ;)
  also, on Friday i had to go to this meeting with these cognitive scientists,
  right...so, it turns out to be kinda cool; like this 'interactive' art...the
  stuff generates all sorts of sounds as you move around it...
  Point is.. the inventor/artist starts explaining the workings of the piece,
  and he's like ...'does anyone know what MIDI is?'  so, _of course_ I  do and
  it was just ever-so-comical to see these cog.sci. profs looking at me,
  like..how the hell does _she_ know??shit, we never heard of such a thing!
  teeeehheeeee
  who sayz the boyz ain't educational :>:):}

  veggies du jour?  y,  whirrled ppppppps o'course!
  later all...
  peace,
  laura
From: gaile@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com (Gail Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: inaugural ball
Date: 22 Nov 92 13:57:16 GMT
Organization: The Internet

In article <1992Nov22.044739.23878@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> COPIGEM@mvs.oac.ucla.edu writes:
>I've just heard a rumor that the dead might play the inaugural ball.
...
>If this were to happen how could we get tapes?  More importantly would Bill
>sit in?

Will there be mail order?  How about a taping section?  Ha!  I suspected
something was brewing when Bobby broke out The Star Spangled Banner.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Ken Schumacher <ken@venus.odetics.com>
Subject: Re:Seats Behind the Stage
Reply-To: ken@venus.odetics.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:35:45 GMT

con@mcigate.apdev.mci.com (Con_Falvey) writes:

|Does anyone out there have any good stories about 
|sitting behind the stage?

My behind stage experience was at the last SoCal inside 
Grateful Dead show (LA Forum) with my wife and two
year old son.  We were high above the back of the 
stage and had a WONDERFUL view during drums of
Micky Hart playing a long, mysterious device that 
made extraordinary noises.  Learned later that it`s 
called the Beam, an electronically amplified metal 
I-beam strung with piano strings.  Seeing Micky and 
Bill from behind doing their thing really made me
feel like I was on stage with the band, especially when
I glanced up and saw the packed house of swaying and
dancing souls arrayed in front of me.  There was also
a lot more elbow room at this location, which was nice 
when you're holding a two year old.  The sound was
also not bad from behind, but of course, each venue has
its own unique sound environment.

|---------------------|                                    |
|   ken@odetics.com   |    "...let the words be yours,     |
|   (Ken Schumacher)  |         I'm done with mine."       |
|---------------------|                                    |
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From: ADJS000 <ADJS@nmumus.bitnet>
Subject: Happy endings to last week's bummin'
Reply-To: ADJS@nmumus.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:40:21 GMT

Last week, I was "very, very disturrrbed" (Nurse Deisel) abbout a
completely BOTCHED Madison, 2/15/73 that I'd received. Many of the
responses were of the "Beggars can't be bitchers" variety, and some were
of simple info (set lists I should have, etc.)
Anyway, I decided to drive around this weekend, and took off for East
Lansing (where the dubbin' was done). It's a seven-hour drive from Up
Nord, but I'd been treated to one honey of a day, weather-wise. I woke
at 2 AM, and started out--protected almost all the way by a sliver of a
setting moon. I knew I was in for a good drive! I brought along tapes
(including the botched Madison series), and realized around mile # 305
that it had been too long since I'd soloed a long drive. The East
Lansing scene was great Thursday and Friday (a band called Groove Spoon
was doing it's Twisted Funk thing at Small Planet), and the guys who did
the botched Madison II provided me with plenty of right music for the
drive back nord.
Point being that here is another tale with a happy ending! Thanks to all
who responded with info. last week!
Jim S.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead,co.politics.amend2.discuss
From: kauff@neit.cgd.ucar.edu (Brian Kauffman)
Subject: Re: Amendment 2
Organization: NCAR
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:42:17 GMT

>  = brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown) writes:
>> = gina@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Gina Cherry) writes:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Meanwhile, the Dead are playing here, and lots of Deadheads will be visiting
>>the state.  A local group is in the process of compiling a list of pro- and
>>anti-Amendment 2 businesses.  I will post this list sometime before the shows
>>if it is ready, so that you know where not to spend your money.
>
>But even a No-Hate Zone business pays sales taxes to the state, so
>in essense the state will still be raking in the cash no matter where
>you do business.
>
>It's a nice gesture, but a complicated situation.    

I'll say.  What shall we do if (if?) the federal government or a national 
majority does something we despise?  Boycott everybody in the nation-state,
including ourselves?

Somebody help me out here...

o Who is "the state" anyway?   
o Why do I have to be categorized with hate-mongers?   
o Why does *every* damn person living or working in the state of Colorado 
  have to be grouped together with these hate-mongers?   
o If Peter's an asshole, why should we hassle Paul?
  Because they live within 5, 50, or 500 miles of each other?  
  Because they live on the same side of some arbitrary political boundary?
  Because it's too much hassle to distinguish between allies & enemies?
o Is there anyone among us who couldn't just as legitimately 
  (or ill-legitimately) be held responsible for the actions of some people 
  who live within x hundred miles of you?

Buy this magazine or we'll shoot this dog.

-Brian
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From: Victor A D'Amato <DAMATO@unc.oit.unc.edu>
Subject: need 7-26-72 set list
Reply-To: DAMATO@unc.oit.unc.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:35:35 GMT

My old DB doesn't have this one listed, but I think the newer
editions do.

Please email me the set list from 7-26-72 Paramount Theater, Portland,
OR.

Thanks,
Vic
From: patm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Pat Murphy)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:25:38 GMT
Subject: NEWBIES OFFER: 10/12/89 (Thanks to JBOWER!)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead


for those of you who were unfortunately left out of jbower's
kindness, i offer the following:

In anticipation of receiving the 10/12/89 e. rutherford (NJ)
show (thanks jb!!), i would like to share the wealth with
the first three earthlings who email me.  here's what ya
do...               
	(1) determine your need
	(2) email me saying you need
	(3) wait until i'll get back to ya through email
	(4) send two (2) blanks & return postage to
	      me through snailmail
	(5) patiently wait as i lay down the grooves
	(6) go to the mailbox some fine autumn day
	      and rush to the house to jam

my email:  patm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM

peace to all,
patrick.
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Subject: Re: harvesting wind
From: <MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:28:41 EST
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

I shouldn't have posted what I did previously :-(.
I *AM* trying to let this blow over, and should have just ignored the
comments made.  I don't want to fan the flames more than they already
have.

Humble appologies to those offended :-(
Joe Doheny
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: berger@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (David Berger)
Subject: 10/16/92 MSG Dylan Tape Wanted
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:13:55 GMT

I'd love a good copy of the MSG Dylan tribute 10/16/92.  If someone
can help, please mail me. I've about 500 hours of misc. to trade...


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From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re: Dillard's/Compton paranoia
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 22:43:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.221024.29735@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com writes:
>Phil Everson writes:
>
>|I just got mine today via certified mail. I was surprised because nothing 
>|else was included in the envelope except a copy of the bill - no camping/
>|hotel info or maps. Did anyone get anything like that?
>
>You shouldn't expect anything like that from Dillards. GDTS sends that sort
>of information when you get tickets through mail order. The Compton Terrace
>tickets have nothing (?) to do with GDTS.
>
>-Jeff Lester

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From: ra@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Starcap'n Ra)
Subject: Re: net gathering in tempe
Organization: Tempe
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:48:43 GMT

charles@phx.mcd.mot.com (Charles Wolff) writes:
> jharris@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (jonathan harris) writes:
> }has the net gathering been determined for tempe yet.  if so could
> }somebody mail me and let me know.  Thanks and see you all in arizona
>
> 	If people want a 'party party', I'd suggest having Starcap'n
> 	Ra pick a place.  If you just want to meet each other, copy
> 	some tapes, etc., then my house would be a possibility.
> 	Parties at my house tend to be pretty... uh, dull?  Let's say,
> 	"laid back..."

     Well I'm not much of an organizer.  So I would
suggest that those of you wanting to trade tapes
and wanting a definite meeting time get with
Charles.  Those of you who just want to party
and perhaps run into someone on the net if you
happen to have good karma that day might want
to stop into Casey Moore's on Sunday morning.

     There is a possibility of there being a bus
from Casey Moore's to and from the show on Sunday.
It would probably be $15 or less for a round trip,
certainly no more expensive than that.  Even if
that sort of thing doesn't appeal to anyone, Casey's
on Sunday morning before the show does seem like
a good common ground on which to try to run into
each other.

     We did this last time and it was a blast.  As
I recall, the only person from the net who showed
up for it was Gail Edwards in her butterfly shirt.
The only problem was the woman who was in charge
of the bus wasn't motivated enough to get everybody
to stop drinking, out of Casey's, and onto the bus
early enough to avoid the traffic jam getting into
Compton, and as a result we missed the first two
songs.  I may give it another try this year if I can
get a definite departure time out of them, but you
know how restaurant people are.  Also, I don't like
missing out on the scene, but maybe I'll get my
fill of that on Saturday.  I'll post more details on
the bus if anyone is interested as I learn more.

     Regardless, it might be nice if people stopped by
Casey's anyway for a drink on their way to the show
on Sunday even without taking the bus, if they don't
have anything else planned.  That's about as close
as *I* can get to organizing anything.

     Don't forget to try and arrive Friday for the
fair, because most of Saturday and Sunday will be
taken up by the shows.  Also, the fair is much less
crowded on Friday.

--Starcap'n Ra       {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
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