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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:30:28 EST
From:         peevish <GE777009@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: M-PERSON and so on

>
>Sonia "completely lacking OMC today and can't even think of any except to say
>that thanks to Tim I have become an instant diedhard 1969-71 Jethro Tull fan"
>
>"so there"

ewwwwww. but we'll get back to Tim in a minute.  Thanks everyone
for the blues recommendations. Of course, i printed them
our, and highlighted the important stuff and headed off
to the record store at lunch, only to find that i had
letf the printout on my desk. go figure. I did pick this up
though:  Alligator Records 20th anniversary collection".  I looked
for the Louis Jordon, but couldn't find it. I'll go back
next week and get something from the list as well. This
Collection i got is two cds,  put out in 91. it had some
stuff that looked good, so i picked it up. It was only 11.99.
so i figured i could get him another one as well. Now,
if i could only remember to take my printouts with me.

On to the Obligatory Tim Comment. Tim is in a foul mood.
and I  Mean Foul. I have no idea what's buggin' him
except the usual "i hate all you yankees".  So, lets
start a pool. Everyone guess what Tim's problem is, i'll
tally up the results, and then which ever issue got the most
votes, that'll be the one!

He did look relatively clean shaven today, so its obviously
not a problem with razors that has his panties in a bundle.
 ;-) *smoooch Tim*

Jenna
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Subject: Re: Goin' to the Chapel, Queensryche Video
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:03:18 GMT
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crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM (crispen) writes:

>Very few surprises -- an unreleased video of "Another Rainy Night"
>which was IMHO better than the one they showed on MTV (both are
>included) and a song from the _Live In Tokyo_ boot.

Slight correction here... _Live in Tokyo_ was an actual official release,
waaaay back in '84 or '85, and, well, just isn't easy to find at all anymore.
At least not in the states.  I've heard about it being available down under.

Bob's the first _male_ person I've heard from who liked the alternate version
of "Another Rainy Night" better... it's the only video they've done with a
female producer and it has what I'd call a "colorful, artistic, feminine
touch" to it.  [Of course, all the _female_ fans I've heard from about it
hated the black-and-white version that was broadcast. ;)]

-Shag


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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:50:54 CST
From:         Debbie Scheibal <DPDS@SIUEMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Birthday contest

> So, I'm going to run a contest to guess my age.  The winner -- whoever
>
> Post responses on Allmusic or send directly to me.  There will be

uhhhhhh......48.

Debbie
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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 10:54:37 CST
From:         Little Inquisitor <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Birthday contest winners!

OK, The truth can now be told: I was born on Nov. 17, 1944 in Mexico City to Re
nato Barahona Streber and Iris Arevalo Ramos, which by my count, makes me the b
ig 48.  (Intriguing footnote:  my parents were married in May, 1944. Hmmmmmmm)

And the winners are: Dave Hall, Debbie Scheibal and Michael Bloom (the last one
 sorta since he said --very tentatively/ambiguously-- "I woulda guessed but," b
ut in the spirit of the contest we'll give it to him!)  (BTW, there were 24 gue
sses -- with Crispen "participating" twice).

In keeping with contest rules, this is what the winners will review on Allmusic
. Alphabetically, then, MHB: Haymarket Square's _Magic Lantern_ (Chaparral 201,
 1968).  This is a rare album that sometimes goes for as high as 500 big ones.
I'll let Michael tell you about it.  Dave Hall: The Litter's _Distorsions_ (War
ick, UR-5M-1940, 1968).  Also a rare LP.  And Debbie Scheibal: The Thirteenth F
loor Elevators' _Psychedelic Sounds_ (International Artists, IA 1, 1967).  Firs
t album on this legendary, demonic label.  All tapes will be made from bonafide
originals.

I'll of course need street addresses ASAP from the winners.  Everything should
be ready to mail by next tuesday.  This sure has been fun, and I'm glad that so
mehow all of you thought I was younger.  But now, though an Allmusic newbie,
you'll probably think of me as the oldest person on the list.  Just think of me
 as a kind of elder, possible wiser and ecumenical musical aficionado.

I'm posting a series of musical memories later on today. I'd like to think that
you'll enjoy reading them as much I've enjoyed recalling them and writing them.

As soon as I clean up the loose ends of the contest, I'm going off the list
again, as I really do have a life in addition to this one.  I simply want all o
f you to know that you can take the Little Inquisitor out of Allmusic, but you
can't take Allmusic out of the Little Inquisitor.  Thanks again for allowing
me to share so much musical joy with you.

Renato "Now and forever a hopeless child of the Sixties" Barahona

P.S.  I too demonstrated outside the U.S. Embassy in London in 1969.
Absolutely true!  Perhaps I rubbed shoulders with our President-Elect
and didn't know it.
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From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
Subject: Marco's CD
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:34:28 GMT

mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU writes:

>For the clueless newbies...(am I still one?)...Marco -

Yes you are :). Marco = Marco Olivotto = olivotto@itncisca.bitnet = one
of the nicest guys I know and a damn good composer, musician and singer =
the brains, guts and performing force behind the splendid 'The Chessboard'
cd. I think I saw an article of him with info on TC (haven't read it yet
though, but I guess M. won't miss this chance to bring TC under your
attention once more :) Hi Marco!

>what's this CD like? What kind of music?

Sympho-prog-ballad music with (hey hey!) a soul... And indeed, as you said:

> (Loose, useless labels OK...) 

> Will I like it?

Don't know if you _will_, only that you _should_ :).

> How do I get it? C'mon - give me the dirt, 'kay?

Write him. Or read the 'info on TC' message...

Hendrik "do I get paid for this, or what?" Jan


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From:         Mr Bad Example <HAMELIN@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Speak softly and carry a big Stick[tm]

Adam,

You're NOT going to shave your head!  Tony will be most upset!  ;)

It used to be that the only place to buy a Chapman Stick was through Emmet
himself, I'm not sure if that's still the case.  As far as price goes, I think
I paid around $1500 for mine a few years ago...

It's not an instrument for the light of heart, I hope that you make better
progress than I did!

                                                        kevin.
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:56:35 CST
From:         Little Inquisitor <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Malcolm x

On Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:17:39 EST Tim Johnson said:
>  The half-moon and star is a muslim symbol, folks.

Bless you Tim for this timely retort (though you are somewhat off in terms of
size, but who's quibbling).  I could go on for hours on this one, but a few str
okes will have to suffice.
 First, it's *not* completely a half-moon, but is instead somewhere between a n
ew moon and first quarter or between the last quarter and the succeeding new on
e, when less than half of the *illuminated* surface is visible.

Second, it's commonly referred to a *crescent* or crescent moon.  In fact, as
some of you are surely aware, the Arab world's equivalent of the Red Cross is
known as the Red Crescent Organization.

Third, and working strictly from memory (cause most of my history stuff is in
the office, having been displaced by my records), the crescent comes in several
colors, but is *probably* most often depicted in green.

Four, in several depictions, there's a star next to (or in the general vicinity
of the center of) the crescent; and occasionally, there's more than one.  Some
have suggested that the star(s) are related to the prophet Muhammad's life &
doings (you know, the founder of Islam, 6th-7th c. AD).  A good, traditional
intro to his can be found in Henri Pirenne's _Mohammed and Charlemagne_ (no
real typo here, the name has many spelling variants).

Five, after the Battle of Lepanto (1571), the Spanish commander of the Holy All
iance, Don Juan of Austria (Illegitimate son of Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor),
and half-brother of Philip II, having defeated the Ottoman forces of Suleiman
the Magnificent, brought back to Spain a *huge* banner of the Islamic forces
to present to the Spanish monarch.  Guess what's on it?  You guessed right:
a crescent moon.  It now hangs -- some would say proudly -- in the indoor,
second-floor balcony of the Hospital of the Holy Cross in Toledo.
The hospital, BTW, is actually shaped like a cross -- no architectural
accident either.

OMC: This week I saw Spanish Television's version of "The Trickster of
Seville," -- the original Don Juan. (What a prince of a guy: seducer and
deserter of women -- no social class spared; from duchesses to fisherwomen.)
I'm using this literary piece (written by a priest mind you: Fray Gabriel
de Tellez a.k.a Tirso de Molina) to support some of the historical
aspects of my ongoing sex research.  Almost forgot: there's some amazingly
good Renaissance-like Spanish guitar as background, particularly in one of
the seduction scenes.

Class dismissed.

Now, go have a great week-end and find someone special to seduce; just be sure
not to abandon them a la Don Juan Tenorio.

Renato "Passionate lover of history"

P.S.  Though I just violated many netiquettes, I thought some of this might
prove moderately enlightening.  However, we should keep most of these non-music
cal topics from the list.
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:27:24 EST
From:         Ilia <CC29@IONA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: ??? Address for Rose Records on Wabash in Downtown Chicago?

    This reminds me: somewhere on Wabash, near the Palmer House, there  Buck
is a swell piano store. They have fantastic instruments for those
n-digit prices... I found one electric piano that did a real-time string
arrangement for whatever you played on it... Zep's 'The Rain Song'
sounded especially impressive. And I only had two bucks for a discusting
cup of soup at the nearby Roy Rogers. ;)
               Ilia.
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:09:36 MST
From:         Thumper <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      Re: PRINCE & NPG

I confess to liking Prince's video for "7" mainly because it has an eastern
flavor complete with belly dancing...

Other than that, I think Prince's butt is much too small and inconsequential...

luv,
lib
From: kkb55224@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kristin Kelly Buxton)
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Subject: Re: Genesis Live: Good disc/Bad disc
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:56:57 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

"OUT,               OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET> writes:

>        The only thing I'm afraid, regardless of the titles, is that they
>made a monster live album in 1977 with "Seconds Out", but the next "Three
>Sides Live" was rather dull in comparison. Will they be able to revamp the
>old energy?

I picked up the Genesis album yesterday and found it quite good.  I am waiting
to get the second volumn though because I caught their concert over the
summer (from the tour they recorded these on) and found that the songs
they saved for the second album were some of the best of the concert.  The
last song "Drum Duet"  was awesome in concert.

Kristin
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:01:52 PDT
From:         David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Cataloguing the record collection

On Wed, 18 Nov 1992 10:45:25 CST Renato said:
>
>Yes, it's called Chicago.  Marsha and I (and Malbuff and Beer) are exiled.

"Exiled", I dunno, but whatever I am, it's happening in Oakland, California.
Not that I wouldn't mind visiting Chi-town, mind you... I've heard stories,
many stories, many great stories, about the blues clubs there. But... not
in wintertime, thanks all the same. I've seen too many TV films of folks
fighting their way up the sidewalk against the arctic winds like Hillary
(Sir Edmund, that is, not Clinton) trying to climb Everest.

OMC: Forthcoming.

David
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:25:11 EST
From:         WK7@CORNELLC.BITNET

Sonia: I think I'm beginning to understand you much better now that you
have purged your soul of some interesting reminiscences (insert smilie).
You must have had a really interesting childhood ! Maybe your mother should
have broken the jazz musicians over her head, and played the 78's and 45's
for the bird. I like the throwing crockery stuff, must feel great !

Just to show you how parallel universes arise (at least in my own imagination),
my father was a junior high school english teacher, who rather enjoyed
confiscating contraband squirt guns from teenagers. My sister and I begged
him to bring some home, but he only did once in his career, because he
usually enjoyed crushing the squirt guns in the door jam of his classroom in
front of the horrified and affronted perpretrators. Strange, huh?  And he's
a Scorpio too...

Continuing with paralellisms, I can cut a mean rug myself, if I do say so.
I learned to dance the mashed potato in 4th grade, which would have been...
hmmmm maybe 1961. At my freshman orientation/beer bash party weekend at
Albany State I won a dance contest, dancing the Freddie (does anyone remember
that one? extra points for the song by the Turtles that spawned the dance).
Anyway my partner in Freddieism turned out to be my 1st girlfriend, and then
later married one of my best friends, and one of my co-fellow heavy duty
substance abusers in college. But life evens and strangens out, because that
former sociology major is now on special assignment in D.C. in a border
guard/U.S. immigration think force, trying to find newer and better ways to
interdict the same illegal substances we used to co-abuse. And he adopted
3 kids at once, and goes out in the back yard and plays with his 357 Magnum.
Hmmmmm - I wonder if he knows Hunter Thompson??

In San Diego I used to follow a blues band called The Hurricanes around, and
I'd always get the people dancing, borrowing girlfriends and groupies to
instigate enthusiasm. After one mushroom-flavored evening when I used the
entire dance floor and danced with 2 or 3 girls at a time in a blue trance,
I told the boys I was going to incorporate my talents and called the business
Rent A Jester, being that I acted as the band's official court jester.
BTW, does anyone know if The Hurricanes still exist? Last I heard they were
headed down to Florida. Let me know, anyone...

Not to worry folks,this post too will end - and just as strangely as it began.
And as the kind man in the khakis fires his tranquilizer dart, we fade out to
a fuzzy green computer screen........"Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do...


The Right Honourable Phineas T. Thornhostle Keller, Esq., retired..........
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:26:23 EST
From:         Ilia <CC29@IONA.BITNET>
Subject:      Sundry items

Sonia said:

> Ilia--about your comments on the concert: I guess I do sound like a naive
> American getting all excited about the music and not fully grasping the
> unspoken dimensions.  I guess NOTHING can happen in Russia that isn't
> political, whether it wants to be or not.  While watching I (naively) had
> figured those jamming militia-men had truly "changed camps"--since I was
> thinking
> about the revolution where the czar's men sometimes just jumped ranks and
> joined the reds...  Thanks for the reality check.  Hey, did you ever get those

       Well, I don't think that either of us can, or even should,
understand political or moral essence of the event like that. I was
talking mostly about the aesthetical side of it, about the way it looks.
('cause we are watching it, right? well, of course, we are listening to
it too). You might be quite right, and the militia-men really did change
the camps. I was just saying that *I* cannot perceive it in that way. I
was intentionally subjective, in other words. And I think both attitudes
can be equally insightful or equally naive. (Studied dialectics at my
Marxism lessons :))
                 Ilia.
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:41:53 CST
From:         Jeff Schoby <S113236@UMRVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: PRINCE & NPG
              19 Nov 1992 21:29:00 -0500 from <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>

On Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:29:00 -0500 The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny said:
>From: 5_DCOREY@FAIR1.FAIRFIELD.EDU
>Subject: PRINCE & NPG
>>Hello - I'm a new subscriber, so bear with me. I just wanted to know why
>>there aren't any messages concerning Prince's fantastic new album. If you
>>don't have it already, go out and buy it. It's a great album. Maybe after
>>listening to it you'll become a collector like me & collect all of his albums
>>since 1978. If anyone would like to send a message directly to me it's
>OOH...Now you've done it.....
>
>THE TOP TEN REASONS ALLMUSIC IS NOT DISCUSSING PRINCE'S NEW ALBUM:
>10. Sonny Sharrock doesn't appear on it
>9. Vinnie doesn't appear on..oh wait a minute...maybe he does?
>7. Libby Doe has got a bigger tongue
{lots of ignorant stuff deleted}
>
>...and the number one reason why allmusic isn't discussing Prince's new album:
>
>1. Prince sucks farts from dead wet ducks.
>
>8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
>-Adam

Adam, If you don't like Prince that is fine, but you do not have to insult the
people like me and Darice like him.  Prince is a rather unique individual, yes.
However, he is probably one of the most talented musicians there has ever been.
How many POPULAR artists write, produce, and perform all of their own stuff.
At least he's not 'Milli Vanilli' which was an embarrasment to us all, I'm
sure.  But anyway, he IS a very talented musician and should be given the
respect he deserves, I'm sure you couldn't do any better!  Save your top ten
lists for the David Letterman show, this is no place for that kind of ignorance
and only makes U look bad


                                       - Jeff Schoby
                                         s113236@umrvma.umr.edu

 O-+> "Everybody's looking 4 Graffiti Bridge, everybody's lookin' 4 love!" <+-O


  "May U live 2 see the dawn." - Prince
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:52:38 CST
From:         Little Inquisitor <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: rare blues cd

On Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:39:47 EST peevish said:
>I'm looking for a rarish blues cd to give my brother for
>christmas. He's a big bbking fan, bo, and stuff like that.
>
>i always get him music for christmas, but i'm find that

Got just the thing for you, Jenna.  Heard about this on the radio this morn:
Alligator (of Chicago) is coming out (or has come out already) with a CD
blues of Xmas carols -- you read it right -- with the likes of Koko Taylor,
Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown, Little Ed, Sonny Seals.  Just don't ask me to
the address or record reference.  I spent half of yesterday guiding souls
thru Chicago's record stores.

Renato "R & B" Barahona

>he has all the stuff i'm familiar with.
>
>Does anyone know of any cool/rare/import that
>i might be able to get him?
>
>i'm not a big blues fan, so i don't know
>what is out there or what is good.
>
>any help is appreciated.
>
>jenna--guitar buyer
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:25:55 -0500
From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Recycling and MORE

>Marsha--
>
>Gotta break the news: Ilia, though the name sounds feminine in English because
>of the ending, is a Russian name for a GUY.  I sent him the BLUES, what else??

Ohmigod!!!!!!!!! I can't believe I've been this clueless all this time!
Ilia, can you ever forgive me? Have I f*ucked this up before, and have you
been too polite to correct me, or have we managed to be gender neutral all
this time???I am soooooo sorry! Forgive me?

thank you to Sonia for correcting me...you're still female, aren't you??

Marsha
Marsha J. Ferziger
University of Chicago School of Law
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:14:11 MDT
From:         BLAKDAVI@SU.ISU.EDU
Subject:      Re: Birthday contest

Hi There!
    Is your birthday somewhere around, but maybe not, but I guess it
could be near...27?  Or would it not be?
    Bye,
    Feek
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From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
Subject: Re: House and spirituality ?
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:44:45 GMT

mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU writes:

>Hendrik Jan writes (in impeccable Englishfor a non-native, I might add...)

>>OMC-or-O-whatsoever: re-re-rediscovered Britten's _War Requiem_ today 
>>(happens
>>at least once every year :). My o my, how can someone write stuff like that?
>>It should be forbidden - some things are too beautiful...

>I agree that the War Requiem is incredible, but I disagree that there is
>such a thing as too beautiful. Can you imagine how dull it would be to live
>in a world without pieces like that?

First of all: thanks for the compliment :). And yes, y're right: things so
beautiful should only be forbidden _after_ I bought them. O no, not true
either. I'm afraid I must completely agree with you. Yack... a world without
all those beautiful things... music, paintings, poetry... etc... Horrible.
Would be a world without women too, I suppose? Aaaarrrrrggghhhhh... :)
(hmmm, really getting an old and grumbling bachelor...)

Talking about beautiful: y'all *did* buy Marco's cd, didn't you???
If not: eternal blame, shame and flame on you, your children and your
children's children, up to the 7th generation... Ha!
Amen.

Hendrik "who invented winter?" Jan

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