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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:56:10 PST
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From:         carroll@MR4DEC.ENET.DEC.COM
Subject:      RE: CSLG seminannual report

Alan,

We have received the CSLG report for Franklin & Marshall College.

Regards,
Betsy Carroll
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:55:08 PST
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From:         carroll@MR4DEC.ENET.DEC.COM
Subject:      INFORMATION ON CDROM SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE FOR ALPHA PRODUCTS

Attached FYI is information on the CDROM subscription service for Alpha
products that you may find useful.

You do need to purchase the media for the Alpha products separately - it
will not be contained on the current CDDS service, but rather is a seperate
offering.

The media for AXP operating systems and AXP layered products is distributed
on CDROM only. The documentation is included on-line on the CDROM in
bookreader format. Hardcopy documentation is also available separately.

Ordering/Pricing information:

QA-03XXA-H8     CDROM Software Library for                      $ 300
                OpenVMS AXP layered products

QT-03XAA-C8     CDROM Subscription Service for                  $2004
                OpenVMS AXP layered products
                (includes ECO disk)

QT-MT1AA-E8     CDROM Subscription Service for                  $ 420
                OpenVMS AXP operating system

QT-MT4AA-E8     CDROM Subscription Service                      $ 420
                DEC OSF/1 AXP operating system

Regards,
Betsy Carroll
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:50:00 CST
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From:         "Prof. David Miller" <DMILLER%BSU.DECNET@MSUS1.BITNET>
Subject:      I lost my CSLG message

TEIers:

I deleted my January '93 CSLG product listing (by mistake, of course! :)

Would some kind heart send me a copy, please?
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Subject: VAX lisp version 3.1
From: george@ezcome.sfasu.edu (George Schoenemann)
Date: 21 Jan 93 10:13:24 CST

Hello netters,

We have been using VAX lisp version 3.1 here for a few years.  It  
seems that it has been removed from the CSLG and DEC says they have  
retired the product.  One of our professors recently tried to use the  
product and received a message that the products license had expired.

Dec has informed us that we can still get some kind of license for  
the product, but no one knows where to get it.  The product is even  
on my newest set of consolidated s/w distribution cd's - doesnt sound  
like a retired product to me - .

We would appreciate any information on how to get a license for VAX  
Lisp as  we have a professor trying to teach a lisp based class right  
now.

George Schoenemann
Programmer/Analyst - Technical Support
Stephen F. Austin State University
Nacogdoches, Texas

george@ezcome.sfasu.edu

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From:         Raney Ellis <ELLISWR@SNYPLAVA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: VAX lisp version 3.1

Date sent:  21-JAN-1993 14:50:48

George Schoenemann says....

>We have been using VAX lisp version 3.1 here for a few years.  It
>seems that it has been removed from the CSLG and DEC says they have
>retired the product.  One of our professors recently tried to use the
>product and received a message that the products license had expired.
>
>Dec has informed us that we can still get some kind of license for
>the product, but no one knows where to get it.  The product is even
>on my newest set of consolidated s/w distribution cd's - doesnt sound
>like a retired product to me - .

Same thing happened here.  The old VAX Lisp (layered product) is gone,
replaced by a third-party product for which you pay handsomely, even at the
50% Market Basket discount.  My guess is that what is on the CDs is this
new product.

I was able to get an extension PAK for a week, so a student could finish a
product.  Seems to me that DEC could generate PAKs for anyone who is
content with the old product, and simply wanted to continue running under
the former license, but they appear to be unwilling (probably because of
the agreement with the third party [Lucid]).

>We would appreciate any information on how to get a license for VAX
>Lisp as  we have a professor trying to teach a lisp based class right
>now.

I'm afraid your professor is SOL, unless DEC is willing to help.

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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:14:41 -0500
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From:         Alan Sutter <ALAN@FANDM.BITNET>
Subject:      CSLG seminannual report

Franklin and Marshall College
CSLG Semiannual Report

Report Period Ending:   January 15, 1993

Total Number of Members by System Type:

System          # of Systems

Vaxstations     5 systems
MicroVAX 3xxx's 2 systems
VAX 4000        1 systems

Total Systems   8 systems

Total Number of Licenses Distributed by Product Type:

Product         # of Licenses

VMS             8 Licenses
DECnet F/F      1
DECnet E/N      7
VAX Fortran     2
VAX Pascal      2
VAX Lisp        2
VAX Cobol       2
VAX C           2
VAX Basic       8
Rdb Development 5
Rdb Runtime     5
VAX Notes       1
TSM             3

Total Number of Licenses by System Type and Product:

               VAX     VAX     VAX
            station   3xxx    4000

VMS             5       2       1
DECnet F/F                      1
DECnet E/N      5       2
VAX Fortran     1       1
VAX Pascal      1       1
VAX Lisp        1       1
VAX Cobol               1       1
VAX C           1       1
VAX Basic       5       2       1
Rdb Development 4               1
Rdb Runtime     4               1
VAX Notes                       1
TSM             2       1

Total          27      13       8

CSLG Value:

Currently we are utilizing $249,100 of the license granted in the CSLG Program.

The potential value of the CSLG Program to the currently enrolled systems is
$12,885,600.

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From:         "Prof. David Miller" <DMILLER%BSU.DECNET@MSUS1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: I lost my CSLG message

> >I deleted my January '93 CSLG product listing (by mistake, of course! :)

> >Would some kind heart send me a copy, please?

> Those darn Millers can't keep track of anything!  (Did you get at least 1000
> copies yet?)

> /*! Mark K. Miller                 | MILLER's View of computer diagnostics: !*
   /

Thanks Mark! Yours is the first!
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From:         "Prof. David Miller" <DMILLER%BSU.DECNET@MSUS1.BITNET>
Subject:      Licenses missing?

TEI folk:

I have a question regarding the '93 CSLG I received Jan 6. In *glancing*
through it, I noticed that DECserver 300 for VMS was missing from the OpenVms
list, but it was in the Ultrix list. Unfortunately I deleted my electronic
copy of the message, and its difficult to do an thorough search of hardcopy.
I'm *hoping* this is an error on my part, or possibly a clerical error
somewhere in DEC.

The Minnesota State Universities don't update licenses until March, so I have
a little time to investigate.

Thanks for your attention.
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From: droberts@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com (David Roberts)
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Subject: 3com mail and windows
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:06:43 GMT
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Hello,
We are running 3com share 1.6 and windows 3.1. When we go into mail through
windows and try to run any other program in the background the machine
hangs.
This only seems to happen when mail is running. Has anyone else had this
problem and overcome it?

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From:         BRETT SINGER <BRSMS@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: 3Com Servers
              21 Jan 1993 20:05:31 GMT from <exucad@EXU.ERICSSON.SE>

I have no experience using anyhting other than the drives that
3Com packaged for the 3servers.  However, if you will ever consider
running Netware off the 3s600, I wouldnt do it.  People who have
successfully configured different drives for use with 3+ have been
unable to use those same drives with Netware.

Sorry I cant help you with the big drive....

Brett Singer, CNE
Mount Sinai Medical Center
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From:         Mark Elston <melston@FLYSAUCE.WIN.NET>

statistics 3COM-L
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From: exucad@exu.ericsson.se (Charles Dobbins)
Subject: Re: 3Com Servers
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:05:31 GMT
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              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

>Date:         Wed, 20 Jan 1993 15:45:00 EST
>From:         "Q. WAYNE JONES" <JONESQ@NSCS1.NSCSES.SEA06.NAVY.MIL>
>Subject:      3Com Servers

>Charles,

>What kind of controller are you using? Is it IDE, SCSI etc?
>The type controller determines how easy it is to interface the drive.

Well I appreciate the reply but if you'll note in my message I am using 3Com 
600 series servers. This being the case I'm using an ESDI disk connected to 
an Adaptec 4525 controller which is connected to a SCSI bus. The biggest 
problem I may have is that the software that comes with the 3Com boxes isn't 
very versatile when it comes to formatting drives that they don't sell. 
In my case I will be getting SCSI drives and attempting to attach them 
directly to the SCSI bus, so I'm not worried about an interface card here. 
Again thanks for the reply and if you have any info on this kind of setup I 
would be very much in your debt.
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Subject: 3com and NCSA TELNET
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Hello,
Has anyone out there been able to get NCSA telnet working with 3com drivers
loaded in memory? Our machine tend to hang with ncsa packet drivers and
3com 3+share 1.6 drivers loaded.

																																											-David Roberts
					

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Date: 26 Jan 93 17:46:16 GMT
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|Date: 1-26-93  11:30am
|From: benh:ncrr-lib:nih
|  To: $3COM-L@NUSVM:BITNET
|Subj: Re: 3com and NCSA TELNET
|In-Reply-To: Message from $3COM-L@NUSVM:BITNET of 1-25-93
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I thought 3+share does'nt allow multiple protocols to run.  3+Open does,
as well as LanManager but 3+ share will not run with other protocols.

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Date: 1-22-93  7:39am
From: $droberts@BDMSERVER.MCL.BDM.COM:internet:HAM-TMCL

Has anyone out there been able to get NCSA telnet working with 3com drivers
loaded in memory? Our machine tend to hang with ncsa packet drivers and
3com 3+share 1.6 drivers loaded.

                        -David Roberts
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:32:00 CST
From:         Sanjay_Chadha@LIBRARY.TMC.EDU
Subject:      Re: 3com and NCSA TELNET

We had it working but with 3+Open, not 3+.  Your primary problem is to
do with shared memory access on the card.  Your card can be run in that
mode, and NCSA will work well then.  However, you may have mucho
problems with 3Com in that mode. (We did.., or rather, we were not about
to change memory address and config on 70 stations...).  If it is any
solace, the Netbind program (as far as I know) is now in public domain,
you already have XNS, 3Com drivers are in public domain too.
Essentially, you can get all you need to set up a 3+Open workstation.
That WILL connect to 3+ Plus server.

Sanjay R. Chadha
sanjayc@library.tmc.edu
Houton, TX

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Date: 1-22-93  7:39am
From: {droberts@BDMSERVER.MCL.BDM.COM}:internet:HAM-TMCL

Has anyone out there been able to get NCSA telnet working with 3com drivers
loaded in memory? Our machine tend to hang with ncsa packet drivers and
3com 3+share 1.6 drivers loaded.

                        -David Roberts
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:25:19 SST
From:         Sen Teck <ISSTST@NUSVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: 3com mail and windows
              21 Jan 1993 18:06:43 GMT from <droberts@BDMSERVER.MCL.BDM.COM>

I assume you've installed Windows 3.1 with 3Com 3+share drivers. The
Windows program will hang when you try running any thing over the
network without the proper network drivers and system.ini settings, for
3com 3+share. If you've already done that, then it could be 3+Mail
itself (I assume you're running that). I heard that 3+Mail 1.3 I think
tends to timeout under Windows3.0 and 3.1. Try to get a latest version
of 3+Mail client software.

Tan Sen Teck
Institute of Systems Science.
National University of Singapore.
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From: exucad@exu.ericsson.se (Charles Dobbins)
Subject: Re: 3Com Servers
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:53:08 GMT
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In article <3COM-L%93012523260323@NUSVM.NUS.SG> BRETT SINGER <BRSMS@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:20:38 EST
>From:         BRETT SINGER <BRSMS@CUNYVM.BITNET>
>Subject:      Re: 3Com Servers

>I have no experience using anyhting other than the drives that
>3Com packaged for the 3servers.  However, if you will ever consider
>running Netware off the 3s600, I wouldnt do it.  People who have
>successfully configured different drives for use with 3+ have been
>unable to use those same drives with Netware.

Thanks for that info on Netware you never know it may save me some trouble 
down the road.
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From: bkpipa@eos.ncsu.edu (BRIAN KEITH PIPA)
Subject: Re: Prince of Persia 2
Originator: bkpipa@c00527-106ps.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: bkpipa@eos.ncsu.edu (BRIAN KEITH PIPA)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:23:46 GMT


>I'm looking for 'prince of persia II'. If anyone has this game pls
>emil to my address and we'll discuss the price.

It hasn't been released yet!

Brian

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Anyone know of where I can find tips, secrets, and other junk on
Mortal Kombat? Also has anyone heard about Reptile on there?

Juggler

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>
>
>
> Hi you all...
>
>      I'v just bought this game and I'm stuck now. I'm playing in the team mode
> It's when I get in Monaco and when that man asks Sophia how many fingers he ha
> in his hand, something like that. What do I have to do to guess the right numb
> r??Or is there any other way to get that stone??If any of you knows the answer
> please write to my bitnet address which is ICEMAN@BRUFPB2.Thanx in advance.

Well. There is anothrer way to solve that puzzle.
First get that awful mask from Omar.
Then go to Monaco and call Trottier. Tell Sophia "I have a plan".
pick up the flashlight, find a white cloth, close the lights, be a ghost.

Good bye... Panayiotis
You will stuck again. Call me : cbdz117f.ossa.ccf.auth.edu