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From: syang@rossini.eng.uci.edu (Guess)
Subject: IFL: Current Standing
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.misc
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:57:07 GMT
Distribution: usa


				Week 2
				------
			pts	players with highest pts
			---	------------------------
Bay State Bombers	65	T. Aikman,QB,DAL,19
Fabulous Fleetwoods	96	W. Moon,QB,HOU,26

Email Eagles		116	KANSAS CITY,DEF,34	
Buffalo Thundering Herd	97	R. Cunningham,QB,PHI,26	
        
The Bills		73	DEROIT,DEF,22	
Milwaukee Brewmasters	88	PHILADELPHIA,DEF,29	

Philly Thunders		58	D. Marino,MIA,QB,20
ANL Bears		92	T. Thomas,RB,BUF,25

Zenn-Lavian Surfers	83	J. Kelley,QB,BUF and HOUSTON,DEF,28
Indy Dolts		66	S. Young,QB,SF,35

Delaware Displacements	85	NEW ORLEANS,DEF,28
Da Jackets		66	B. Foster,RB,PIT,27


				TOS Division
				~~~~~~~~~~~~
				Ovrall	Vs Div
Team Name			W L T	W L T	PS	PD	CS
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Email Eagles			2 0 0	2 0 0	221	+61	1
Fabulous Fleetwoods		2 0 0 	2 0 0	160	+33	4
Buffalo Thundering Herd		0 2 0	0 2 0	159	-21	9
Bay State Bombers		0 2 0	0 2 0	128	-73	10
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

				TNG Division
				~~~~~~~~~~~~
				Ovrall	Vs Div
Team Name			W L T	W L T	PS	PD	CS
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Milwaukee Brewmasters		2 0 0	2 0 0	175	+26	2
ANL Bears			1 1 0	1 1 0	168	+23	5
The Bills			1 1 0 	1 1 0 	113	-8	8
Philly Thunder			0 2 0	0 2 0	95	-41	12
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

				DS9 Division
				~~~~~~~~~~~~
				Ovrall	Vs Div	
Team Name			W L T	W L T	PS	PD	CS
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Zenn-Lavian Surfers		2 0 0	2 0 0	144	+22	3
Delaware Displacements		1 1 0	1 1 0	145	+14	6
Da Jackets			1 1 0	1 1 0	124	-12	7
Indy Dolts			0 2 0	0 2 0	117	-24	11
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


                                Week 3
                                ------
        Indy Dolts                      AT      Delaware Displacements
        Zenn-Lavian Surfers             AT      Da Jackets
        Fabulous Fleetwoods             AT      Milwaukee Brewmasters
        Buffalo Thundering Herd         AT      Philly Thunder
        Email Eagles                    AT      The Bills
        Bay State Bombers               AT      ANL Bears
From: centry@athena.mit.edu (Jae H Nam)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.misc
Subject: EAGLES Football
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:03:27 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Can someone keep me posted on the Eagles?  I'm stuck here in Boston with no T.V.
and a second rate sports radio station (WEEI).

I hear ... 

	1)  Herschel Walker racked up 114 yds. rushing vs. the formidable Saints.
	2)  Cunningham seemed rusty - few reps in preseason.
	3)  Defense stuffed the run.
	4)  Two PATs were missed.

I ask ...
	
	1)  How did Leon Seals, our new acquisition from Buffalo, do?
		and how was our defense overall - esp. defensive line.
	2)  How were our special teams?
		a) kicking (Ruzek, Feagles)
		b) punt/kickoff coverage
		c) punt/kickoff returns (Sikahema, Walker, Sydner)
	3)  Is Herschel FOR REAL?!?  I hope so.
	4)  Oh yeah, when's Keith Jackson going to sign?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.misc
From: jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
Subject: FFL- Larocque help!
Organization: Marriott Library, University of Utah
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 18:31:13 GMT

Help, I'm the owner of the Salt Lake Pioneers in Larocque's FFL, and I 
haven't gotten my roster yet. I realize that he was in a car accident and 
all, but as far as I can tell everyone else has theirs, and he even asked 
people for their starting lineup by today at 1100 hours GMT. 
	I'm starting to get frustrated, because all my attempts to reach 
Darrell have either not been received or been ignored. If anyone in this 
league could help me contact him I would be grateful.


Jeff Jonsson
Marriott Library System Support, University of Utah.
==============================================================================
--"It's the sound of the secret--  jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
-- machinery at the center of  --  jjonsson@utahlib.bitnet
-- the world." -Cliff Steele   --  "You talkin' to me?"
From: 832989@SKUL.USASK.CA (Glenn Chin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.misc
Subject: Canadian university alumni in CFL
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:38:48 GMT

Number of Canadian university alumni in the CFL

Simon Fraser			19
Western Ontario Mustangs	12
Calgary Dinosaurs		10
UBC Thunderbirds		 8
Acadia Axemen			 7
Toronto Varsity Blues		 6
Ottawa				 5
Wilfrid Laurier			 5
McMaster			 4
Alberta Golden Bears		 3
Bishop's Gaiters		 3
Carleton Ravens			 3
Concordia			 3
Guelph Gryphons			 3
Manitoba Bisons			 2
McGill Redmen			 2
St. Mary's Huskies		 2
Saskatchewan Huskies		 2
York Yeomen			 2
Mount Allison Mounties		 1
Queen's Golden Gaels		 1

I apologize for any errors in university nicknames.

Glenn
From: rob@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Rob McKnight)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.misc
Subject: AFFL Power Ratings Week1
Date: 9 Sep 1992 21:20:38 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
NNTP-Posting-Host: studsys.mscs.mu.edu


				    AFFL
                                Power Ratings
                 Offense                                Defense             
        1. California   64.0                    1. Milwaukee    19.0 
        2. Columbus     63.0                    2. Florida      22.0
        3. Minnesota    59.0                    3. Columbus     31.0
        4. Milwaukee    58.0                    4. Minnesota    35.0
        5. San Rafael   42.0                    4. San Rafael   35.0
        6. Florida      37.0                    6. California   37.0
        6. Wisconsin    37.0                    6. Dallas       37.0
        8. Barrett      35.0                    8. Sussex       42.0
        8. Sussex       35.0                    9. Hawaii       58.0
       10. Seattle      31.0                   10. Barrett      59.0
       11. Dallas       22.0                   11. Seattle      63.0
       12. Hawaii       19.0                   12. Wisconsin    64.0
       

Mark Gresbach
AFFL Commish
From: zureick@ucunix.san.uc.edu (John H. Zureick)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Hmmm Texas to Big 10!!!
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:57:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Cincinnati

In article <92258.084432U32431@uicvm.uic.edu> <U32431@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>As a Big 10er twice (Michigan and Illinois), I vote to take Texas, driving
>distance nonwithstanding.  Texas is a better fit than the other possibilities,
>possibly with the exception of Pitt.  Pitt is not comparable to Big Ten schools
>in size, save Northwestern.  But it is fairly well respected academically; Pitt

What do you think about the University of Cincinnati as an entrant into the
Big Ten?  Geographically it would make more sense than Texas.  Also, three
big ten states (Michigan, Illinois, Indiana) have multiple teams in the 
Big Ten but Ohio doesn't.  If being a big research institute helps, we 
will be the only one in the state besides OSU in the near future.

-- 
John H. Zureick					zureick@ucunix.san.uc.edu
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Cal vs. Purdue (was: Weekly top 25)
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:45:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

In article <19476@ector.cs.purdue.edu> sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin) writes:
>
>I can't see Cal winning by less than 20 at Purdue.  Purdue is better
>than they have been, but that's like saying George Bush is getting
>better on environmental policy.
>
>My prediction:  Cal 31 Purdue 10

California  55
Purdue       2  [they will block a punt out of the endzone]
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: rrandolp@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Rich Randolph)
Subject: Re: TOSU-BG: War of Ohio
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:24:40 GMT

  p.p.s.  I saw Raymont Harris at St. John arena during the lunch hour. There
 was no evidence of any problem with his ankle, in fact he jogged out the
 door when leaving. Look for Raymont to start.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: richter@mcc.com (Charlie Richter)
Subject: Re: Schedule Strengths, Again
Organization: MCC, Austin, TX
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:15:08 GMT

> This does not paint a pretty picture of the SWC last season.

Yeah, yeah, but at least no SWC team lost to The Citadel.
The SWC doesn't have *that* on its hands.

(The Citadel:  best football program in South Carolina.)
-- 
Charlie Richter   MCC   Austin, Texas
  uucp: richter@milano.uucp     arpa: richter@mcc.com
"The panic ... was not due to anything fundamentally weak in either business
   or finance.  It was confined to the market itself."   - WSJ, Oct. 31, 1929
From: lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Patrick W Lauson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: UMich-ND bickering (was Re: ND's DuBose Situation)
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:42:38 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Sep10.135643.15244@walter.bellcore.com> kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge) writes:

>|> Michigan Won: 1985, 1986, 1991
>|> Notre Dame Won: 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990
>
>That first victory by Michigan over ND doesn't count because I think that it
>might have been while Faust was coaching there. 
>
>Kevin H. Klinge

Well then I guess the games that ND won when Rocket was there shouldn't 
count either....   :)

-- 
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| lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu       :    Scarlet and Gray Rules!!!! |
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From: azzarito@cse.fau.edu (Doug Azzarito)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: WEEKLY TOP 25
Date: 13 Sep 92 19:59:27 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA


      -----=====< The A.P. Top 25 >=====-----

THIS LAST
WEEK WEEK  SCHOOL      W L T  Results of Last Game         Next Game
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 1    1  Miami         1 0 0  WON at Iowa, 24-7           v. Florida A&M, 9/19
 2    2  Washington    2 0 0  WON v. Wisconsin, 27-10     v. Nebraska, 9/19
 3    5  Florida St    2 0 0  WON at Clemson, 24-20       at NC State, 9/19
 4    4  Florida       1 0 0  WON v. Kentucky, 35-19      at Tennessee, 9/19
 5    7  Texas A&M     3 0 0  WON v. Tulsa, 19-9          at Missouri, 9/19
 6    6  Michigan      0 0 1  TIED at Notre Dame, 17-17   v. Oklahoma St.,9/19
 7    3  Notre Dame    1 0 1  TIED v. Michigan, 17-17     at Michigan St.,9/19
 8    9  Syracuse      2 0 0  WON v. Texas, 31-21         v. Ohio St., 9/19
 9    8  Alabama       2 0 0  WON v. Southern Ms, 17-10   at Arkansas, 9/19
10   10  Penn State    2 0 0  WON v. Temple, 49-8         v. E.Michigan, 9/19
11   12  Colorado      2 0 0  WON at Baylor, 57-38        at Minnesota, 9/19
12   11  Nebraska      2 0 0  WON v. M.Tenn St., 48-7     at Washington, 9/19
13   13  Oklahoma      2 0 0  WON v. Arkansas St, 61-0    v. Southern Cal,9/19
14   20  Tennessee     2 0 0  WON at Georgia, 34-31       v. Florida, 9/19
15   16  UCLA          1 0 0  WON v. CS Fullerton, 37-14  at BYU, 9/19
16   19  NC State      3 0 0  WON at Maryland, 14-10      v. Florida St., 9/19
17   15  Clemson       1 1 0  LOST v. Florida St, 24-20   at GeorgiaTech,9/26
18   21  Stanford      1 1 0  WON v. Oregon, 21-7         v. Northwestern,9/19
19   14  Georgia       1 1 0  LOST v. Tennessee, 34-31    v. CSFullterton,9/19
20   23  Virginia      2 0 0  WON at Navy, 53-0           v. GeorgiaTech, 9/19
21   22  Ohio State    2 0 0  WON v. Bowling Green,17-6   at Syracuse, 9/19
22   24  Georgia Tech  1 0 0  WON v. W.Carolina, 37-19    at Virginia, 9/19
23   --  San Diego St  1 0 1  WON at BYU, 45-38           at UCLA, 9/26
24   18  Miss. State   1 1 0  LOST at LSU, 24-3           at Memphis St., 9/19
25   --  Mississippi   2 0 0  WON v. Tulane, 35-9         at Vanderbilt, 9/19


   Last week's casualties...

LAST
WEEK  SCHOOL       W L T  Last Game                   Next Game
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 17  California    1 1 0  LOST at Purdue, 41-14       at Kansas, 9/24
 25  BYU           1 1 0  LOST v. San Diego St,45-38  v. UCLA, 9/19
From: rszczerb@schiller.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ND vs. Michigan
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:14:21 GMT
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame

In article <JOHNDOE92Sep14.133428@squid.inmet> johndoe@squid.inmet (johndoe) writes:


>endings ever to a college football game.  if notre dame and michigan both go
>undefeated-once tied this year, expect michigan to get the nod.
>
>-johndoe

I'd really like to hear your justification for this.

		- Rob
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge)
Subject: Re: ND Woofing
Keywords: not gonna do it
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 16:21:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.154953.19450@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, kimahone@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kelly I Mahoney) writes:
|> 
|> ND  35
|> Mich.  14
|> 
|> THe Wolverines don't have a chance this weekend. Their disgrace in Pasadina 
|> will continue on in 92.                      

Lucky for Michigan that their "disgrace in Pasadena" had nothing to do
with what Notre Dame offers in terms of a stifling Washington defense :

Michigan	27
Notre Dame	24

|>                         Look for a thrashing!

OK, but I'll settle for a close victory, nonetheless.

-- 

Kevin H. Klinge
Bell Communications Research
kevink@soac.bellcore.com

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From: ddavidson@cbacc.cba.uga.edu (Dennis Davidson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Tennessee football
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:49:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbacc.ddavidson.31.715970951
Organization: Terry College of Business, University of Georgia

Could someone send me some information on how the Tennessee game went and 
your opinion on how they compare to Georgia? Thank you in advance.
From: sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: BYU - America's Most Hated Team???
Date: 13 Sep 92 00:13:43 GMT
	<1992Sep11.174039.16004@ichips.intel.com>
	<1992Sep11.213758.24133@inel.gov> <15244@borg.cs.unc.edu>
Distribution: usa
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

}} In article <15244@borg.cs.unc.edu> morse@satie.cs.unc.edu (Bryan Morse) writes:
}} 
}} Sadly, there are Mormons who are racist.  There are also Mormons who are
}} elitist (even among other Mormons) and do indeed have a "holier than thou"
}} attitude.  Yes, there are even those who think that a win by the BYU 
}} football team is a sign from God.  But this shouldn't be misconstrued as
}} the beliefs of the school, the church, or of other individuals.  The
}} same thing can be said of Catholics, Aggies, Boilerweenies, and Goobers.

What?  I wrote the Boilerweenie Handbook ($19.95 from a Waldenbooks
near you), and nowhere in it do I say that a BYU win is a sign from
God.  Purdue thrashing Cal, maybe.  Or did you mean that the beliefs
of the Boilerweenies shouldn't be misconstrued as official Mormon
doctrine?

This is all so confusing.  I'll have to ask my good friend goober to
explain this to me.

sjc@cs.purdue.edu   Steve "weenier than thou" Chapin   Today's Grammar Lesson:
                     Let's hope the usher lets us in.

                    Beef:  Real food for a dead planet.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: tu rumor
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:28:03 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1992Sep10.173315.25010@den.mmc.com> kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com writes:

> In article <1992Sep10.000830.25665@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mzhao@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Min Zhao) writes:
> >In article <1992Sep9.143601.13198@menudo.uh.edu> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
> >>
> >>semper fi,
> >
> >  Pardon my ignorance. I've seen "semper fi" often, on bumper stickers and 
> >other places, and often there is a Marine Corps bumper sticker along with it.
> >What does "semper fi"  stand for ?  
> 
> Semper fidelis, Latin for "always loyal", is the motto of the U.S.
> Marine Corps.
> 
> Good thing you didn't bother asking Jammer Jim himself; he "just like
> the way it sounds".
> Kevin Rodgers				kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com

  Cowboy, I know exactly what it means.  "always faithful", is the standard
translation.

semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
* Aggie in Cougarland -- I just work here.				       *
* Speak for my employers?  They don't even know I exist!		       *
*"Become one with the Student Billing System. *BE* the Student Billing System."*
* "Power finds its way to those who take a stand.  Stand up, Ordinary Man."    *
*      ---Rik Emmet, Gil Moore, Mark Levine: Triumph 		               *


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
********************************************************************************
* Aggie in Cougarland -- I just work here.				       *
* Speak for my employers?  They don't even know I exist!		       *
*"Become one with the Student Billing System. *BE* the Student Billing System."*
*             *********************************************		       *
* "Power finds its way to those who take a stand.  Stand up, Ordinary Man."    *
*      ---Rik Emmet, Gil Moore, Mark Levine: Triumph 		               *
********************************************************************************
From: fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Cal/Purdue
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:46:09 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <randall.716513690@seashore> randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:
>mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>
>>o Cal got a major taste of humble pie that ought to last all
>>  season
>
>I hope so.
>
>>o It came early in the year and not against a Pac-10 opponent
>
>True.
>
>>o The game wasn't televised, so they ought to be able to regain
>>  some ranking in a few weeks
>
>We would need to beat Washington, which I doubt will happen.
>It will take at least seven more wins to get back into the
>top 25.  

  This is a bit pessimistic; I forget what the AP #16 team was last week
but they lost and they were ranked #25 this week.  Cal was #17, but they
took a good beating, so they are probably around #30 I guess.

  If they beat Kansas (on ESPN) by a decent score and then come on strong
against Oregon State the following week, a Pac-10 team, they could get back 
in to the top25.  Just in time to be knocked down again Oct. 10th :-(    
(testing out the anit-woof theorem here).


  Doug
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From: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: (Longmont, CO) Trojan News, vol. 1
Keywords: high school
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:09:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Martin Marietta Western Internal Systems, Technical Operations

In article <1992Sep4.174450.24002@den.mmc.com> valdis@longmont.edu (Valdis Rodgers) writes:
>
>The real Trojans open their season this Saturday at home, hosting the
>Overland Trailblazers at Montgomery Field.  Longmont is the 3-time
>defending 5A state champ and will try to extend its 41-game winning
>streak, 1 shy of Limon's state record.  Last year, they were widely
>considered the equal of all but the top 1 or 2 6A teams in Colorado.
>The Trojans, however, are currently ranked just #4 in the state's 5A
>class by the Denver Post/KCNC poll.  Overland is currently ranked #7
>among the state's 6A teams.

Errata:

1. The game was actually played Friday night, so I hope no TROJAN fans
   were disappointed to find an empty Montgomery Field on Saturday.

2. Longmont is the 2-time defending 5A state champ, after winning the 3A
   state title in '89.

Update:

The MIGHTY TROJANS defeated Overland 5-3 in winds that gusted through
Boulder County at 50 mph.  Trailblazer Mark Bentley, who is touted as
the best high school kicker to ever play in Colorado, made only 1 of 2
FG attempts (another miss was cancelled by a penalty) and had 1 blocked.
Bentley, playing QB, also missed his first 7 passes, was tackled by Mark
Zavednak for a safety for the game's first points, and fumbled away
Overland's comeback rally at Longmont's 16 yard line with just over a
minute remaining.  Only minutes before, a late Overland drive was
stopped at the Longmont 29 on a lost fumble.

The TROJANS will try to break the 30 year-old record for most
consecutive wins Thursday night against Fort Collins, who has been
beaten 28-6, 14-12, and 35-19 during the current streak.

Fight On!
-- 
Valdis Rodgers				valdis@longmont.edu
GO TROJANS!  BEAT FORT COLLINS!
From: hpb@hpb.cis.pitt.edu (Harry Bloomberg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Rutgers hosts Pitt:  ESPN
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:10:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Sep14.165429.24641@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann) writes:
>
>WHO WILL BE PITT'S STARTING COACH?
>
   At least halftime went well.  Because of rain and the Labor Day
holiday, the Pitt Band had only 2.5 days to learn an entirely new show.
The performance and execution was excellent.

   Rutgers really is a critical game for Pitt.  If Pitt wins, there's some
hope for a winning season.  If Pitt loses, this could be a replay of
1990's 3-7-1 record.  Pitt doesn't have a recent history of recovering
well from devistating losses, so I'm concerned.
>
>POETRY CORNER:
>
>   Mary had a little lamb
>        its fleece was white as snow
>   She took the lamb to Pittsburgh
>        and now look at the damn thing
>
   Because of our good friends in the Japanese auto and steel industries, the
air in Pittsburgh is now pristine and pure.  Mary should be more concerned
about her lamb ending up in an unemployed steel worker's stew pot!

Harry Bloomberg
hpb@vms.cis.pitt.edu