HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Counterfeiting
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 07:29:02 GMT

This isn't exactly a counterfeit, but there are places you can buy what
appears to be a legitimate first-run VHS videotape, usually shrink-wrapped
and in the original full-color sleeve, etc, except that there is a little
stickly label attached (always on the back) indicating that it's an EP
copy of the movie, meaning real poor quality to save on a few feet of tape.
Some of these labels even say "some tracking adjustment may be required".

Are these bootleg counterfeits, or has there been a loophole created because
they are of poor quality?

They are often sold (at too-good-to-be-true prices) in the same bins as
"pre-viewed" used first-run tapes similarly packaged at somewhat higher
prices.

cjl
From: datri@egsner.cirr.com (Anthony Datri)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Soc Security Number theory
Date: 4 Sep 92 07:02:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Central Iowa (Model) Railroad, Dallas, Tx.


When I went to CMU, the practice was that one's SSN was one's Student ID Number
(yes, I know now...).  Non-citizens, though, seemed somehow to have *two*
SSN's, although I don't remember the details (I'm an old man of 26).  One of
them looked normal, the other always began with something like 996-.
From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Eating Dogs
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:12:21 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <92246.150727WCE2@psuvm.psu.edu> WCE2@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>A couple of years ago, when I was in England, I saw an item in the
>TIMES that claimed that Orientals really did eat dogs as a delicacy,
>the dogs being first tied up and hung upside down, then slowly beaten
>to death.  The principle was that the adrenalin somehow tenderized the
>muscles and made the meat unusually tender.
>
>Despite the TIMES' general respectability, I assumed that this was "one
>of ours" and gave the cutting to another folklorist who was working on
>ethnic slurs.  Anyone else heard this (or can argue for its authenticity)?




Unfortunately, yes.  That is, while living in Asia (and eating dog meat),
I never saw a dog killed precisely this way.  I did see other animals killed
this way, for similarly ridiculous reasons; they peel snakes alive so as 
not to make the food "ugly" (a major concern among folks in Hong Kong, and
presumably China), same idea holds for various other creatures.  Chopping
the head off a chicken, for example, was considered a repulsive thing
to do as it would disfigure the finished product.  So one must use other
methods to kill the chicken, none of which are particularly quick or
painless.  I would have no problem believing the story you quoted in the
Times.


-- 
Lauren Crawford  //  crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu

I believe we are on the irreversible trend toward more freedom and
democracy -- but that could change.   -- J. Danforth Quayle
From: abw@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Andy Wardley)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Eating Dogs
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:03:54 GMT
Organization: International Computers Limited

All this talk of eating dogs reminds me of a christmas special edition of
"Alas Smith and Jones" (I think) in which Gryff Rhys Jones (or was it Mel
Smith?) played a news reader who as a final comment said....

"And remember what they say in Korea...A dog is not just for christmas....
with a bit of luck there will be enough left over for boxing day as well."

Ho hum.....

Cheers
Andy


-- 
___________________________________________________________________________
 , '   Standard disclaimer available on request                Andy Wardley
-o O-                                                   abw@oasis.icl.co.uk
  l                                                     
  _    "Luke, you've turned off your targeting computer.  Are you drunk?"
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From: kls4344@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Person in flux)
Subject: Re: Political ULs
Reply-To: kls4344@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:38:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.193232.664@bnlux1.bnl.gov>, schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov 
(gary l. schroeder) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.201612.11825@news.cs.brandeis.edu> 
st890270@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>
>>>Has anyone on the net actually _seen_ Dan Quayle with their own eyes?
>
>>My girlfriend's ex-boyfriend saw him once, and thought that he was witty and
>>intelligent.
>
>Not.         

I have met Dan Quayle (please, hold the applause (and the applesauce too, for
that matter)), and while I found him to be quite pleasant and cordial, he was
neither particularly witty nor intelligent during our brief encounter.  But who
knows, maybe away from the madding crowd and in the privacy of his own
quarters he's a different man.

Katie
From: 00mlschmalz@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Mnemonics
Date: 27 Aug 92 04:03:29 GMT

In article <25736@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
> Chuck Adams <chuck_adams@qmail.ssc.gov> writes:
> 
>   +I'm looking for mnemonics for stuff like "FUBAR" (f**ked up beyond all
>   +recognition). Is "SNAFU" a real word, or more of the same?  (It may stand for
>   +screwed 'n all f**ked up, or then again it might be Strange, Nerdy
>   +A.F.U'ers).............       ;-)

Ever heard 'NIMBY'?  'Not In My Back Yard.'  It's an Urban Planning
term for something everyone needs, but no one wants near their home.
Landfills and sewage processing plants are examples of urban NIMBYs.

-- 
   Marc Schmalz, a.k.a. Sparky!!, a.k.a. Campus Activist         
   marc@bsu-cs.bsu.edu   00mlschmalz@virgo.bsuvc.bsu.edu  
   "These are my personal opinions.  Period."
From: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Scearce)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Soc Security Number theory
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:22:12 GMT
Reply-To: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: sector7g

In article 22495@erg.sri.com, stein@erg.sri.com (Bruce Stein) writes:
> [of apparently inconsistent California SSNs]

And another thing: last time I was giving blood (right here in
beautiful Silicon Valley), when I told the nurse my SSN (starting with
"604"), she said that that was an unusual number, and asked me where I
was from.  I told her I was from Canada, and we both assumed that
aliens get special numbers, and that's why it wasn't familiar to her.
But according to the chart, "604" *is* a standard California number.

Is this just another data point about nobody here being *from* here?

Brian "California Naive" Scearce
---
Brian Scearce                               bls@sector7g.eng.sun.com
        The above does not necessarily represent Sun policy.
          It's easier to get forgiveness than permission.
From: cromar@math.rutgers.edu (Scott Cromar)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: IS TOLEDO GOING TO THE DOGS?
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:51:12 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

lawson@acuson.com (Drew Lawson) writes:

> I heard that Walt Disney is frozen.

How about that guy who was kicked out of the Disneyland parking lot
for selling Walt-shaped popsicles (Waltsicles)?

--Scott "How would *I* know what shape they were?  I'm the one who
thinks the Earth looks like a multi-handled coffee cup" Cromar
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From: IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (macphil)
Subject: Re: Mnemonics
Organization: IUPUI
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 22:58:27 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.233107.6408@rose.com>
bill.dehaan@rose.com (bill dehaan) writes:
 
>people  who  worried  about  this  sort  of  thing should picket Adidas,
>because Adidas is an acronym for "All Day I Dream About Sex".
 
And rare is the creature knowing how adidas really got its name...
 
:{)
From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Monty Python's 3-sided ?
Date: 1 Sep 92 12:07:35 GMT
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

einhorn_d@apsicc.aps.edu (E. Drew Einhorn):
    I heard it was a 3-sided record.

rjlov@ecr.mu.oz.au (Richard J. Lovejoy)
    There _is_ a Monty Python three sided record.

millerl@wharton.upenn.edu (Loren Miller)
    It's true.

Allow me to welcome each of you to alt.folklore.urban.
-- 
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 |__/__/_/     for her morals.  Bill Clinton plays the sax on "Arsenio
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From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Eating Dogs
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 08:05:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.053929.14706@u.washington.edu> grimjack@milton.u.washington.edu (Leslie Basel) writes:
>
>I would argue against it on the grounds that that is the worst thing you can
>do for taste (ask any hunter what game meat tastes like if it was fear 
>driven before being shot); the chemicals and hormones released in fear
>make the meat taste TERRIBLE.

There is a cattle farm in Connecticut that sells organically grown beef,
by that they mean that the animals are fed only feed from their own
organically grown plants, no steroids, antibiotics, etc.  The meat from 
there really does taste more "meaty" for lack of a better term.

They also claim that they feed the animals beer before slaughtering them
to get them drunk enough to avoid the fear reaction.

cjl (I know from personal experience that it doesn't taste like chicken)
Xref: sparky alt.folklore.urban:22842 sci.skeptic:15905
From: wsadjw@rw7.urc.tue.nl (Jan Willem Nienhuys)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: Bibliography of Flat, Hollow, Inverted Earth Works
Date: 4 Sep 92 11:29:03 GMT
Reply-To: wsadjw@urc.tue.nl
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands

In article <1992Sep3.164249.12441@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> michaelb@cse.fau.edu (Michael Rogero Brown) writes:
>The following is my bibliography of articles and books about alternate
>earth theories like Flat Earth, Hollow Earth, and "Inverted Earth".
>If anyone knows of any I have missed, please let me know.  I am always
>trying to expand my collection.

Great!
In The Netherlands there used to be Klaas Dijkstra, who also maintained
that the Earth is flat. He was still active when I was a student (1963).
He wrote a book (in Dutch), if anyone wants the title, I'll try to
look it up. 
One of his arguments was that near the South Pole there are whales,
which supports the theory that there is more space there: antarctica
is actually a large ice wall. He used to offer a large globe with
internal lighting to anyone who offered him proof of the roundness of
the Earth. To my knowledge he never thought any proof good enough.
When asked about artificial satellites, he said they clung to the 
magnetic force lines.  When asked about the apparent motion of Sun,
Moon and stars, he said it was an optical illusion, like the Moon
seeming to travel with you if you move. Etc.

JWN
From: csuah@warwick.ac.uk (~WISP at CU~)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Why crescent moons? (was Re: You are humble and loveable. CHOMP!)
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:46:19 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK

In article <25798@dog.ee.lbl.gov> TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
>
>phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson) writes:
>  [in response to a Geoff Miller post]
>
>  +Now, let me get this straight.  The moon looks one way seen from Boston
>  +and the other seen from San Francisco?  Does it look halfway in between
>  +from Omaha?
>
>Naah, this is all wrong.  The moon looks one way from the northern
>hemisphere and the other side from the southern hemisphere.
>
>  +Latitude? Precession? Sounds like bullshit to me.
>
>Absolutely.  It's longitude that's the deal.
>
>Terry "I believe that the moon also appears to wax and wane from
>           the opposite side when viewed from the southern hemisphere
>             due to the Coriolis effect" Chan

The Wisp.

aka Chris "I think that we should probably award this effort from Terry "I
           believe that the moon also appears to wax and wane from the
           opposite side when viewed from the southern hemisphere due to
           the Coriolis effect" Chan the Longest and Most Futile Middle Name
           bullet, to be placed squarely between his eyes from its Colt 44
           carrying case" Williams
-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Chris Williams <csuah@uk.ac.warwick.csv> aka <csuah@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
"Tony Greig in the slips, legs apart, waiting for a tickle"
                                      Brian Johnson (thanks to A. Simha 8^>)
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From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: You are humble and loveable.  CHOMP!
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 08:54:23 GMT

In article <l9ku3jINN7ge@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>
>I'm pretty sure that there were a series of chrome pennies (or cents)
>minted in Canada (or the US) around 1943, due to copper shortages.  Are
>you sure it wasn't one of these you saw?

Don't know about CA, but US '43 pennies are steel.  And thus gives rise to the
whole discussion about the mythical copper '43 pennies that were alleged to
have been struck.

Aren't there current coins in some parts of the world that seem to be made
out of an alloy that resembles plasticized aluminum?

cjl (I wouldn't bite them either)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,sci.skeptic
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Bibliography of Flat, Hollow, Inverted Earth Works
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 07:43:56 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.164249.12441@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> michaelb@cse.fau.edu (Michael Rogero Brown) writes:
>The following is my bibliography of articles and books about alternate
>earth theories like Flat Earth, Hollow Earth, and "Inverted Earth".
>If anyone knows of any I have missed, please let me know.  I am always
>trying to expand my collection.


Not for bibliography purposes, but what about the sci-fi show Starlost, and
the StarTrek episode about the Fabrini "The World is Hollow and I've Touched
the Sky" with similar storylines?  (Inverted to your reference, these people
believe the world is round, yet it's actually hollow.  (Also moving.))

cj ("Can you help us find the bridge?") l
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame)
Subject: Re: The Flat Earth Society???
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 23:04:26 GMT

In article <schumach.715110206@convex.convex.com> schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher) writes:
>Bob Elliot: If the earth is round, why don't people fall off the
>other side?
>
>Ray Goulding: That's a common misconception, Bob. Actually, people
>are falling off all the time.

Thought this was originally from an Ernie Kovacs "Mr. Question Man"
routine . . . been years since I heard it though.

"All of the questions sent to Mr. Question Man are carefully tabulated.
 Some of them are read."

	-- Stewart "yenom ruoy lla em dneS :lanimilbuS" Tame

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University, but also those of Dan Quayle, Richard Nixon, Frank Zappa,
Pee-wee Herman, Bart Simpson, Tipper Gore, Murphy Brown, Maggie Thatcher,
and the Easter Bunny.
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From: kls4344@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Person in flux)
Subject: Re: Just One Calorie...?
Reply-To: kls4344@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 18:28:45 GMT

In article <mcirvin.715035613@husc8>, mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Mcirvin) 
writes re. whether TAB still is around.

[]

I can't remember where I had my most recent TAB, but I did have it in the last
year (maybe Chicago?)....  What I want to know is whether Fresca still is made
and sold.  Where is it?  

Katie
From: kaydin@jarthur.claremont.edu (puck)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: The Posh WC
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:06:03 GMT
Organization: Forest of Satyrs, City of Vampires, the wilds.

In article <BtMC54.BAw@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson) writes:

>>Just this week I heard a tape of Jack Paar telling this story on
>>the old Tonight show (circa 1960, I guess).   His "WC" was "a
>>*wayside* chapel," but it's the same story.

>I could easily be wrong about this, but I don't believe Paar ever broadcast
>the joke, at least on the Tonight show.  I believe that you heard the tape,
>and am curious about its origin.  (Maybe they let him tell the joke when
>he came back, which he did.)

   This came up on television in the last two years.  I cannot remember
the exact source, but have narrowed it down in my cobwebbed mind to
two possibilities:

   1.  A tape of the incident was shown on one of those ``Bloopers and
Practical Jokes''-type shows.

   2.  Johnny Carson showed the old tape, or read the W.C. letter himself.

   In either case, the showing included the story of the original censor-
ship, along with a few comments on ``Look what we can do on television
today.''

   Come to think of it, it had to be (2), as my memory distinctly hears
Ed McMahon guffawing in the background.

-kerim

-- 
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From: st890270@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (LUCIFER)
Subject: Re: Just One Calorie...?
Reply-To: st890270@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:04:53 GMT

About PHENYLALANINE.

A friend of mine (I don't know if he has PKU) always feels sleepy after 
drinking (or eating) anything w/ NutraSweet. Even if the beverage contains
caffeine.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: styri@hal.nta.no (YuNoHoo)
Subject: Re: Why crescent moons? (was Re: You are humble and loveable. CHOMP!)
Reply-To: styri@nta.no
Organization: Bohemians and Globetrotters, Unlimited
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 15:50:44 GMT

In article <25798@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, Terry Chan writes:
>
> Naah, this is all wrong.  The moon looks one way from the northern
> hemisphere and the other side from the southern hemisphere.

Every time this thread reappears I insert a question about the moon
as seen from the equator. This time, however, I can add that I've
spent 2 weeks at some small longditude without getting a single look
at the moon. (That's Murphy's law...)

> Terry "I believe that the moon also appears to wax and wane from 
>            the opposite side when viewed from the southern hemisphere
>              due to the Coriolis effect" Chan

---
YuNoHoo  "I wonder what the flat earth society people believe"
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From: kls4344@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Person in flux)
Subject: Re: Mnemonics
Reply-To: kls4344@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:48:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.195328.16847@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:
>	SOME USEFUL ACRONYMS:
>
>	snafu	situation normal, all fucked up
>	fubb	fucked up beyond all belief
>	fubar	fucked up beyond all recognition
>	fumtu	fucked up more than usual
>	tarfu	things are really fucked up
>	figmo	fuck it, got my orders
>	janfu	joint army-navy fuckup.  (When American troops get shelled
>		by their own side, in this case involving both the army and
>		the navy.)
>	gfu	general fuck-up
>	samfu	self-adjusting military fuck-up
>	sapfu	surpassing all previous fuck-ups
>	susfu	situation unchanged, still fucked-up
>	fujimo	fuck you jack i'm moving on
>
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From: arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
Subject: Re: Spaghetti trees
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:45:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.071411.7213@news.columbia.edu>, lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
> 
> ObTVfactoid: The not-very-well-known actor Warren Berlinger, who appeared in
> such movies as The Girl Most Likely (starring Stockard Channing of Grease, 
> among other things) 

Wow.  I thought I was the only one in the world (besides my mother) who
saw this movie.

> Former Dodger Wes Parker had a brief acting
> career as a featured player in a short-lived Norman Lear series about a
> female-dominated society (the name of which has escaped me; 

All That Glitters.

> I believe it came after Mary Hartman, 

It did.  Briefly.

Nicely convoluted message, btw.  I followed most of it.
-- 
Stephanie da Silva                                    arielle@taronga.com
  "Isn't it romantic?  When roosters fall in love... they lose
                                     all reason...." -- Peepers the Mouse
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: spg@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Stephen P. Guthrie)
Subject: Re: Screaming Peaches and Terrified Eggs
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:46:35 GMT

In article <l98eeqINN7d2@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:
>
>
>When I was a kid, my mom told me about an experiment performed at 
>Columbia University in which the agonized "scream" of a peach was 
>detected somehow with sensitive instruments as someody bit into it.
>Even as a kid, I thought the very idea was absurd to the point of being 
>hilarious, but my mother insisted that she'd either heard or read about 
>it somewhere.  Looking back on it, it's rather interesting that a
>specific location for the research (Columbia) was specified.
>
>Later, when I was in high school, one of my teachers (not of science)
>mentioned an experiment in which eleven of the eggs in a carton were
>connected to electrodes, and a definite electrical pulse was recorded
>as the eggs "freaked" (as he put it) when the twelfth one was cracked
>open.
>
>Has anybody else heard versions of these stories?
>

Yeah, I think it was L.Ron Hubbard with his e-meter.
From: llama@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Mnemonics
Date: 27 Aug 92 08:09:20 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.181531.25673@sunova.ssc.gov> chuck_adams@qmail.ssc.gov (Chuck Adams) writes:
>I'm looking for mnemonics for stuff like "FUBAR" (f**ked up beyond all
>recognition).  

my personal favorite is "tasfuira," "things are so fucked up it's
really amazing."

>Is "SNAFU" a real word, or more of the same?  (It may stand for
>screwed 'n all f**ked up, or then again it might be Strange, Nerdy
>A.F.U'ers).............       ;-)

my dad always said it was air force for "situation normal, all fouled
up," though i suspect he may have been toning the language down a bit.

i used to have a dictionary of slang and euphemism that had bunches of
these xrefed under snafu. you might try looking for one...

--
sine nomine
debbie martinson
"just last night i was reminded of just how bad things had gotten and
just how sick i had become" -- violent femmes