HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: mtools (Re: [Q]: How can I download software to my Linux system?)
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:10:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Oct7.171013.11896
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University

In article <1992Oct7.120548.1941@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Budi Rahardjo) writes:
|> davidho@dopey.rc.arizona.edu writes:
|> 
|> >How can I install any other unix software or update my Linux?
|> >Is there any method my Linux system can communicate to other system use
|> >modem? Or how can I download the Linux-0.98.tar.Z to floppy and Linux can read
|> >it. Does rawrite work? How should I change the name?
|> 
|> I also have 2400 baud modem, so here is what I do.
|> If the package/program is small I just download it with "kermit".
|> Run kermit in one screen and do other things (like compiling stuff) in other 
|> screen. Get kermit.
|> 
|> If the package is big, like gcc, the I just go to the university and
|> download it to a 1.44 Meg MS-DOS disk from our Suns.
|> Using 'mcopy' I can copy the files from the MS-DOS disk to Linux.
|> So get 'mtools' package. Since I am using MS-DOS disk, I have to change
|> the name of the files. For example Linux-0.98.tar.Z I rename it to
|> linux098.TZ

You can also do

mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt
tar xvvofz /mnt/linux098.TZ

|> 
|> I hope that helps
|> -- budi
|> -- 
|> Budi Rahardjo <rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
|> Unix Support - Computer Services - University of Manitoba

H.J.
From: edmonds@cs.ubc.ca (Brian Edmonds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Finding kernel headers (was Problems with hlu's root...)
Date: 10 Oct 1992 12:52:42 -0700
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cobra.cs.ubc.ca

s442223@nexus.yorku.ca (Chaos) wrote:
>First of all, I'd just like to say that Linux is really great and
>really fast. I'm very happy and proud to be using it. :)
Welcome to the best free i386 UNIX clone available.  (Good flamebait:
my mailbox has been rather empty of late. :)

> [elvis cursor keys problem]
Don't really know, I've gotten used to using hjkl, so I never have a
problem anymore, no matter where I am.

>And, my second problem is this: /usr/include/sys/types.h refers to
>/usr/include/linux/types.h, which doesn't exist, and I get a lot of
>errors when I try to compile the most simple packages. Are the
>/usr/inclUde/linux/* files possibly included in the Linux source?
Yes, the /usr/include/linux/* files come with the kernel source.

ObIrrelevancy: So how's GodNet coming? :)

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Brian Edmonds (MSc CompSci)                          edmonds@cs.ubc.ca
From: mirons@ccs.northeastern.edu (Michael A. Irons)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: fdisk cheats me. 245M ?= 239M : {
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:55:23 GMT
Organization: College of CS, Northeastern U


	Hi all;

  Could someone of 'authority' please tell me how to get the rest of my 
partition

Disk /dev/hdb: 14 heads, 35 sectors, 978 cylinders
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot  Begin   Start     End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hdb1           1       1  479219  239609+  81  Linux/MINIX
                                       ^----^- should be 245360
Command (m for help): 

  I've tried to make an ext-fs partition on this and it fails if I try to 
use the correct value. I can make one for the displayed value however. 
-- 

                                  Mike Irons;
                       mirons@Dworkin.CCS.Northeastern.EDU	(School)
                 mirons%minix1.uucp@MecEng.COE.Northeastern.EDU	(Home)
From: fl0p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Frank T Lofaro)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: X bombing *occationally*
Date: 10 Oct 92 21:00:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.cepvI8G00VpNI47UZv
	<1b871gINNphp@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux: 11-Oct-92 Re: X bombing
*occationally* Matthew A. Lewis@po.CWRU (1288)

>i think this is just due to the clocks on our video cards. Sometimes
>they aren't exactly stable. One time X failed to boot cause it read
>a 100 clock time. Normally , my max is 65. Oh well.....it only
>happens once and a while

	Try this, since X autodetect isn't 100% reliable. On a completely
unloaded system (i.e. no users, daemons running, etc.) startx 2>
/tmp/logfile. 	Record the clocks reported into the Xconfig, with a line
saying Clocks clk1 clk2 ... where clk1, clk2, etc are the clock values.
Now when you startx in should work reliably all the time, even under
load, since in doesn't have to depend on detecting the clocks right. If
the fifth number is 65, for example, whenever you ask for 65MHz, it asks
the card for clock 5. So if that really is a 65 MHz clock, it will work,
even if X might not've been able to tell what speed clock 5 runs at
during that invocation of X. Of course, those with variable clocks (e.g.
the infamous Diamond) will still have problems.

	So in short, hard-coding the clock values into Xconfig after you've
determined what they are should help.
From: eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil (Eric Youngdale)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: 600Meg CD's and file systems
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:20:01 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory

In article <1992Oct8.184433.22767@mo.hobby.nl> hans@mo.hobby.nl (Hans Oey) writes:
>Let me rephrase the question.
>Why is the partition table not read when opening the device file?
>Of course it is OK to read it when booting. By all means,
>read it a hundred times when booting.

	Well the problem is that if you are trying to open /dev/sda1, then
there is already an implicit assumption that we want to read partition number
1.  At this point it is too late.

	With a CDROM, the drive actually signals an error the first time you
read a disk after a media change.  I make use of this in the CDROM scsi code
to mark the disk as invalid, and a file open or a mount will flush the buffers
and inodes and mark the disk as valid again.

	My understanding is that the same error code is sent when you change
a removable cartridge disk.  My guess is that the error code gets lost because
the drive responds with a normal completion code if the operation is retried.

	When I get a moment, I will try and copy the disk change logic from the
cdrom to the hard drive.  The only difference is that the cdrom does not have
a partition table, and I am going to guess that I can simply flush the old
partition table, and then call the function to reread it.  I will send private
email when I have something ready.

-- 
Eric Youngdale
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Date: Thu,  8 Oct 1992 21:14:12 -0400 
From: Frank T Lofaro <fl0p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Raw (disk) devices?

Is there any support for raw disk devices, e.g. /dev/rhda1, etc.?
If so, what are the major numbers?
From: dlj0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DAVID L. JOHNSON)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: gnuplot-3.2 sent to tsx-11
Date: 9 Oct 92 05:38:06 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In response to a veritable flood of mail, I sent my hack (not a port) of
gnuplot-3.2 for x11 to tsx-11.

It works very nicely, but I wasn't real nice about documenting the (few)
changes I made to get it to compile.

I just uploaded a file named gnup-32L.tar.Z to tsx-11.mit.edu.
 
It contains source code for
gnuplot-3.2, hacked so that it compiles under linux and runs under X11 (only).
I took the modified files from the port of v3.0 which is already on tsx-11, and
re-configured it for X11.  

There were two or three other changes, all minor.  I am lazy, so just made the
changes directly.  there is no patch file, or idef's in the code that I 
changed, sorry.  There was one function definition in gnuplot-x11.c (I think)
that was already in my libraries, soI simply changed the name.  that and adding
a line about MAXFLOAT somewhere to avoid floating-point overflow error messages
from the compiler was about it.

I didn't post binaries.  I've got a 1200 baud modem, and besides I still am
using 0.96b gcc-2.2.2, X11-1.0(?).  That shouldn't afect the portability of
the source.

I left the -static flag in that the earlier port had, and so it may be larger
than optimal.

One thing did not work.  The install step is supposed to strip down the binaries
and link them correctly.  It didn't.  So I did not make install, but copied
the binaries to /usr/local/bin and put the help files where I told it they 
would be.

-- 
Sincerely,

David L. Johnson                    ID:  dlj0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu
Christmas-Saucon Hall #14, rm 211        
Department of Mathematics

Lehigh University                   Telephone: 215-758-3759 (office)
From: esw@po.CWRU.Edu (Eric S. Wallace)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Weird X behavior
Date: 15 Oct 1992 23:29:29 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


I have a new Linux (0.98) system set up on my 486 and I'm trying to
get Xfree86 to run. I have an OAK VGA card, so as far as I know I'm
stuck with running X386mono. It starts up and opens an xterm window
normally, but each keystroke is accompanied by a disk access and about
a three second wait, while mouse movement is completely wacked. The 
cursor moves in the wrong directions, jumps around, hilites areas (I
guess it thinks a button is stuck), etc. The mouse is a Logitech on
COM1, so I have the line 'Logitech "/dev/ttys0"' in the Xconfig file.
Oh, also, sometimes after killing the server the text screens become
completely scrambled and I have to reboot to recover. Any suggestions
would be greatly appreciated.

Eric Wallace
wallace@chezmoto.ai.mit.edu
esw@po.cwru.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: scaravag@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (diego scaravaggi)
Subject: Upgrade .96 -> .98
Keywords: upgrade
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 10:39:56 GMT
Summary: upgrade .96 -> .98

Hello LinuxWorld !

I have started Linux since June and X1.1 since July

Now I have .96 (no scsi support)
and the standard adm utils (i.e ps top shutdown etc )
plus a trivial lp-scheduler ( create a tmp file then
execute a barbaric "system( cp file /dev/printer )" 

By this time i am working on a socket version of
lpsched but this is not the aim of this newsletter .

With the above descripted configuration i tried to crash and overload
in every manner : compiling &  X with 3 xterm  & printing &
			fsck & and obviously top to see
			how the system could manage them .

In all tests i never saw 'Kernel panic or something else
so i wonder if i can get advantaged installing .98
when i am not fond of CD-roms scsi ext-filesys and i have
no hope to connect my home computer in any net community
so I can't use Tcp services or Nfs and more general 
AF_INET domain service

Can .98 increase performance during a normal monouser session or
with at last a ttys* active

	Ciao 	Diego
-- 

scaravag@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (149.132.2.1)
  SCARAVAGGI DIEGO    computer science department 

  =============       university of MILAN (ITALY)

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scaravag@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (149.132.2.1)
  SCARAVAGGI DIEGO    computer science department 

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: BURNED AND BANISHED LIKE A SCENE FROM HELL <CC013AUM01@trent-poly.ac.uk>
Subject: GCC Header Files
Reply-To: CC013AUM01@trent-poly.ac.uk
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 00:08:26 GMT

Really stupid question I know,

Ive grabbed the GCC2.2.25 file, but I cant find the usualy C header files
anywhere....(r/e  stdio.h string.h etc etc)

can someone please tell me where they are


thanks in advance


Andy
From: thssgxd@iitmax.iit.edu (Gautam Das)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: linux-0.98 booting problem
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:03:44 GMT
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology

Hi fellow Linuxers,

I am currently running linux 0.97pl4. I got the 0.98 bootimage 
from tsx-11, and the rootimage etc. I also picked up the linux0.98 sources.
I can't boot using 0.98. I get the Loading message and then register dumps
like this:

Loading.........................................................
.........
@X:0200
AX:0209
BX:9600
CX:2801
DX:0000
@X:0200
AX:0209
BX:9600
CX:2801
DX:0000
@X:0200
  .
  .
The bootimage I have is the one put out by H J Lu. I next compiled the
Image from 0.98 sources. Compilation went smoothly -- No problem. But the
end result is the same. Has any one else seen this? The register values
are as they appear on my screen. Need advise.

I have no problem booting 0.97. It runs like a charm.

gautam
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From: oreillym@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Michael O'Reilly)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Multiple sessions across a modem line.
Date: 14 Oct 1992 23:14:19 +0800
Organization: Home
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


I have written a  program that now works most of the time that lets me
run multiple shells across a modem, uploading/downloading at the same
time. It is doesn't use the SL/IP protocol, so it is MUCH more
efficient (overhead if typically < 4% as compared to raw data).
Response time is hopefully better too. Response time while downloading
leaves a bit to be desired (can get as bad at 2 seconds over 2400
baud) but I will trying to improve it.

It grew out of frustration at the speed of reading stuff at 2400 baud,
getting very annoyed at line noise, and a uni that doesn't allow SL/IP
connections over it's dialups. :)

As I have 2400 baud modem, it does compression (which can be turned
off), and error-correction (which can't ). 

If you have a mind to, you can run X-windows across it as well.


It is available from 
	tartarus.uwa.edu.au:/pub/oreillym/term061.tar.Z

If it works, let me know. (and what machine it worked on).

If it doesn't, let me know, and I will see what I can do to help.

If you think it should be improved, please do so :)


Michael




Xref: sparky comp.os.linux:13431 comp.os.coherent:5113
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: MAXIMUM PROCESS SIZE under SCO UNIX ODT 1.1 and ANY OTHER 386 UNIX??
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Udo Munk's private BBS
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 19:38:25 GMT

H. Shrikumar (shri@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
: In article <1amfgfINNsr@neuro.usc.edu> merlin@neuro.usc.edu (merlin) writes:
: 
: >SCO, however, does support process space up to 32 MB (8192 pages * 4096 bytes)
: >with simple menu guided manipulation of system tuning parameters.
: >
: 
:    I understand coherent 4.0 goes to 32bit addressing. How big a process
: size does coherent support ? How big has anyone actually run it at ?

With ISA boards 16MB ram are suppoted (because of the 24 bit DMA).
Because 4.0 can't swap and/or page the largest process may be ~14MB.
My largest so far was ~4MB.
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From: dw3x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Douglas J. Wiegley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: token ring cards...
Date: 10 Oct 92 21:44:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.oepvwUK00WC053uUdy
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


can linux be used on a computer equipped with a token ring card?

d.
From: kurt@diku.dk (Kurt M. Alonso)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Thread package
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:54:11 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen


Has anybody implemented/ported a thread package for linux?
On the same note, wouldn't it be useful to have lightweight
processes in the linux kernel?


Kurt.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wood@pauli.lv-physics.nevada.edu (Tom Wood)
Subject: I can't install SLS
Keywords: Can't switch disks
Organization: UNLV Department of Physics
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 21:46:51 GMT

	I am a newbie at linux so I waited for the new SLS version from
tsx-11.mit.edu and tryed to install it last night.  I booted my system and put
the a2 disk in when prompted to put the utilities disk in I put the a2 disk in. 
This part whent fine I partition my hard drive and rebooted then used the mkfs
command to make the file system.  I then typed "doinstall /dev/hda2" it asked me
if I had a formatted floppy ready I proceded and hit 1 because I was installing
form a 5 1/4 floppy which.  It them asked me to put in the a3 disk which I did. 
Then I hit return and nothing happened the disk drive did not run nothing
happened I hit return 3 times then it asked more for disk 4 but it never went to
the drive it did the same thing for disk 4.  It than asked me to put in the
formated floppy which I did it ran the disk drive for a few seconds and then I
think it said to reboot I tryed to form my new boot disk and the computer gave me
a not a boot disk error.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.




							Tom.

P.S. 
	If you reply by Email my address is "wood@pauli.lv-physics.nevada.edu"

	Thanks again for any help offered.



Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jrs@world.std.com (Rick Sladkey)
Subject: Re: emacs shell question
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:02:35 GMT

>>>>> On 9 Oct 1992 16:13:27 GMT, bx516@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Victor
>>>>> Charles Zandy) said:

Victor> I am using emacs-18.58 under linux.  When I run shell in a
Victor> buffer, I get the error, "/bin/sh: [<PID>:n] tcgetattr:
Victor> Invalid Argument" when I am not root.  When I am root, this
Victor> message goes away.  Anyone know what the error means?

I have seen this message once.  Of course, it was when I was trying to
show off Linux to a friend.  Go figure.  Somehow, all the pty's were
in a munged state.  Same result for opening a new xterm.  Anyway, a
reboot cleared it up and I never had it since.
--
Rick Sladkey
jrs@world.std.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ammond@gdls.CSCTMD.COM (Joe Ammond)
Subject: Motherboard incombatabilities with Linux?
Summary: Any motherboards to avoid for Linux?
Keywords: Linux motherboards 386
Organization: Computer Sciences Corp. @ General Dynamics
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:42:42 GMT

Well, I'm gonna take the big plunge, and replace my aging 286 with
a 386 motherboard, so's that I can ditch Xenix/286 for Linux.  At
my previous job I used Linux-0.10 (which I still have on tape) on
an Zenith 386, and had no problems.

What I'm wondering is if there are any known motherboards that have
problems running Linux.  I'm looking at a couple of different el-cheapo
386/33 and 386/40 motherboards (leaning towards the 386/40s).

If you've had a motherboard not work with Linux, please, e-mail me.
I'd rather not be stung.

Thanks,

ja.
-- 
Suicidal Joe Ammond                                       ammond@gdls.CSCTMD.COM
Unix System Administrator                General Dynamics, Land Systems Division
      "How can you call me stupid, when you don't understand what I say?"
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: uufido@ccu.umanitoba.ca (UMCC Fido-Net Liaison)
Subject: DOS emulation in Linux
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:09:10 GMT

Did I hear right?  Is there a n MD-DOS emulation package that'll run under
Linux?  If so, where can I ftp it?  Right now, I've squeezed DOS and Linux
on an 85 meg hard drive (65 for DOS and 25 for Linux), but if I can get an
emulator going I might be able to trash some of the junk in DOS and run
the important stuff (Lotus and Word Perfect) under emulation.

At least I'd like to have a look-see at it.

TIA for any help.

Chris

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From: peterw@archsci.arch.su.oz.au (Peter Williams )
Subject: Re: mtools (Re: [Q]: How can I download software to my Linux system?)
Organization: Design Computing Unit, The University of Sydney
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 02:26:06 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.171013.11896@serval.net.wsu.edu>, hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct7.120548.1941@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Budi Rahardjo) writes:
|> |> davidho@dopey.rc.arizona.edu writes:
|> |> 
|> |> >How can I install any other unix software or update my Linux?
|> |> >Is there any method my Linux system can communicate to other system use
|> |> >modem? Or how can I download the Linux-0.98.tar.Z to floppy and Linux can read
|> |> >it. Does rawrite work? How should I change the name?
|> |> 
|> |> I also have 2400 baud modem, so here is what I do.
|> |> If the package/program is small I just download it with "kermit".
|> |> Run kermit in one screen and do other things (like compiling stuff) in other 
|> |> screen. Get kermit.
|> |> 
|> |> If the package is big, like gcc, the I just go to the university and
|> |> download it to a 1.44 Meg MS-DOS disk from our Suns.
|> |> Using 'mcopy' I can copy the files from the MS-DOS disk to Linux.
|> |> So get 'mtools' package. Since I am using MS-DOS disk, I have to change
|> |> the name of the files. For example Linux-0.98.tar.Z I rename it to
|> |> linux098.TZ
|> 
|> You can also do
|> 
|> mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt
|> tar xvvofz /mnt/linux098.TZ
|> 
|> |> 
|> |> I hope that helps
|> |> -- budi
|> |> -- 
|> |> Budi Rahardjo <rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
|> |> Unix Support - Computer Services - University of Manitoba
|> 
|> H.J.

or even better

ON SUN:

tar cvf /dev/rfd0 <files to be copied>
eject

ON LINUX:

tar xvf /dev/fd0

OR

tar xvf /dev/fd1

depending on whether your 3.5" drive is A: or B:

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