From: mst4298@summa.tamu.edu (Mitchell S Todd)
Subject: Re: The Adventures of Tom Warner
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:07:00 GMT

In article <cortez.716076528@milton>, cortez@milton.u.washington.edu (Tom Warner) writes...
>grant_jo@ripple.enet.dec.com (Joel Grant) writes:

>>>What is a forensic anthropologist and why would anyone go to such a person
>>>to authenticate x-rays and photographs?

>You completely missed my point. Levine's checks were the *only* scientific
>checks done that would have detected a phony x-ray, other than attempts to
>check for a composite or the like. I'm still not sure what you mean by
>forensic anthropologist or what role such a person might play.

	The "outside contact" radiologists were also asked to
	authenticate the x-rays. They did.


>>	I disagree that they only looked for the "most
>>	obvious" types of forgery, but without the HSCA volumes
>>	at hand I cannot quote chapter and verse.

>The point is, that if the photos and x-rays were essential components
>of a highly sophisticated coverup, they would be very difficult to
>identify as forgeries by any standard method.

	We're talking about a coverup so sophisticated that the 
	autopsy is botched, crucial documents are not altered
	or forged, "unreliable" people are allowed to see 	
	the evidence, the "magic bullet" is not obviously not
	sufficiently deformed.... According to the conspiracy
	mongers, almost every piece of evidence is obviously wrong.
	Then they talk about how sophisticated the conspiracy was... 


>A panel of experts in the
>employ of the government spendinmg a few afternoons is not enough to
>settle the issue, although it may be enough to mollify people like yourself.

	What about the Baltimore Globe's own panel of experts?
	They also found no evidence of forgery.


>>	No, the X-rays do not show the right front portion of
>>	JFK's skull missing.  At least one non-enhanced X-ray
>>	does appear, to the untrained eye, to show the right front
>>	portion of the skull missing.  This was not a problem
>>	for the Clark Panel, who interpreted even the non-enhanced
>>	X-rays without a problem.  The enhanced version makes it
>>	clear, even to those of us not trained in reading X-rays
>>	(and without the X-rays, only copies of copies in books)
>>	that the damage in the photos and X-rays do indeed match.

>So I am supposed to accept this as an article of faith, or what? Where
>can I see an x-ray that shows the right front of JFK's face intact and the
>rear top of his skull missing?
	
	Find a decent copy of the enhanced x-rays. You should have little
	difficulty finding the lower half of the right eye socket.
	In the enhancement, you can trace the edges of the eye socket
	all the way 'round, until you come to a triangular piece 
	that has been broken off and displaced a bit at the top of the
	orbit. This is the only piece of facial bone that is broken;
	it is mentioned in the autopsy report as "unusual mobility
	[of bone] in the right superorbital region." See for yourself.



>>	Find David Simon's book _Homicide: A Year on the Killing
>>	Streets_  It is not about JFK - no bias either way.
>>	It is likely in your library, perhaps even in your
>>	bookstore.  Read pp. 391-392 about the effects of
>>	bullets on bodies.  It is actually startling to find
>>	that this aspect is still considered controversial.

>Alright, I will. It's startling to me the silly neurotrauma hypothesis
>is still being trumpeted.

	Why is it so silly?


>>	Bullets don't knock people over, in and of themselves.

>Depends on what kind of bullet you're talking about.

	Bullet, scmullet. Since we're back into momenta analysis,
	consider the momentum of a bullet and the momentum of the
	gun it was fired from. Due to aerodynamic drag, the bullet
	slows down before it hits its target, so the bullet will
	have less momentum than the gun. Further, the gun will
	discharge combustion gasses and particulates along with
	the bullet, increasing the difference between the momenta
	of the gun and bullet. If a bullet will knock someone over 
	in and of itself, then the gun the bullet was fired from 
	will knock the shooter on his ass.

>>	One can determine very little of the source of the shot
>>	by looking at the Z-film.  It is a myth that because he
>>	moved backwards and to his left he had to have been
>>	reacting to the force of a bullet fired from his front
>>	right.

>Bullshit. First, it can clearly be seen from the film that Kennedy's head
>takes the hit and then impels the entire torso backward. His arms stay
>completely limp, and his back does not arch -- it simply gets thrown backward.
>There is absolutely no visbible sign of any muscular action at all.

	Considering that JFK was wearing a suit, and that the
	z-film isn't exactly the clearest photography ever done,
	I'm suprised that you, can say with such certainty that
	JFK doesn't arch his back at all. I'm also suprised that
	you don't seem to factor in the back brace and associated
	apparatus JFK was wearing at the time. Also, next time you
	watch the Z-film, watch JFK's right arm. I'm sure you'll find it
	interesting. 

	Knoll-shooter fans never seem to bother to check the location
	of the wounds in JFK's head to the trajectory between the 
	President and the knoll. The angle between the direction the
	limo is travelling and the knoll trajectory has been measured
	by the HSCA to be 50 degrees. JFK's head was turned about
 	30 degrees to the left of the direction vector for the limo
	at z-312. The angle between a knoll shot at 312 and the
	direction JFK is facing is, then some 80 degrees. Now, if
	JFK was hit in the temple, then the exi wound should be
	on the *left* side of JFK's head.
		
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