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From: lfahnoe@kegworks.mn.org (Larry Fahnoe)
Subject: Re: Diagnostics for NeXT Optical Drive
Organization: The Kegworks, Minneapolis, Minnesota
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 16:20:47 GMT

In article <C0DMwx.2EJ@sounds.wa.com> BrianW@SoundS.WA.com writes:
>About the only thing suggested which I did not do was to purchase a cleaning  
>kit.  Perhaps a less expensive source for the NeXT Optical Drive cleaning kit  
>would be the solution I need.  I don't even know NeXT's part number.  That  
>would help, too.

Yep, they are a tad on the $$ side, but:

NeXT p/n S3901, Optical disk drive head cleaner, ~$95

This unit's box is labeled OM-HC1, and has `Made in Japan' on the box so
I'm suspecting that you could call Canon USA and get hold of is as well. I
simply got tired of trying to chase down a source.  My last attempts
included a Canon optics division in Chicago which passed me along to a
local distributor. 

NeXT p/n S3902, Optical disk cleaning kit, ~$25

This does have the Canon logo on it, with part number MO-CK1, and has a
code number SSG-i0001-0E.

--Larry



-- 
Larry Fahnoe                        Cellular One
612/832-7616                        7900 S. Xerxes Ave, Suite 301
lfahnoe@kegworks.mn.org             Minneapolis, MN  55431
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang)
Subject: Re: ROM monitor error  ---   Solved..Now boot in Multi-user mode.
Reply-To: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 05:17:17 GMT

Hi,

	I do not know how I actually did it, but it works. Now the problem  
are gone forever.

	The bootup process no longer stucks in the ROM monitor.... It  
boots while displaying the spinning disk only. And it goes all the way to  
loginwindow with CD-ROM drive connected....

Here's what I did:

	1. Re-install 3.0 from CD-ROM.....
		bfd CD-ROM tool to boot from CD-ROM Drive, for old NSC. 

	2. re-set parameters in the ROM monitor--- I turn extended  
diagonistic test off and shutdown verbose mode. 

g
P.S. You will lose quite a few thing even if you choose not to erase your  
Hard disk. It took me one day to bring back my SLIP setup and netinfo, as  
well as the userInfo.


--
+----------------+
| Gary I. Chang	 |
+----------------+   
Northwestern Univ.      E-Mail: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Which CD Rom drives can I use for my Next?
Date: 13 Jan 93 03:00:03 GMT
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT

In article <ll5ja1INN3dg@ai.cs.utexas.edu> yu@cs.utexas.edu (Yeong-Ho Yu)  
writes:
> What would be the best substitute for the NeXT CD Rom drive?
> And what is the cheapest CD Rom drive that I can use with my
> NeXT?
> 
> Any information on this would be appreciated very much.

I just entered a new section in the FAQ that contains a summary
of user's responses to that very question...

FAQ's to be posted any moment to csn/announce...

--
Nathan Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu

Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: jhj@daimi.aau.dk (Jens H|rup Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Hayes ISDN Extender
Summary: Can I use the Hayes ISDN Extender with pot?
Keywords: Hayes ISDN
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:07:35 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

Is it possible to use the Hayes ISDN Extender with a normal telephone line
as a modem and a fax-modem. If yes, at what speed?

The reason is, that i don't have a fax or modem connected to my NeXT, and
would like to be ready to ISDN, when it is afortable and more common. 

Can I use it as a answering machine?

Is ISDN a world-standart ?

Thanks
   ... Jens Horup (Denmark)
From: tjhendry@king.mcs.drexel.edu (Jonathan Hendry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: OD Media ruined by Funky Optical Drive?Keywords:
Date: 9 Jan 93 19:27:49 GMT
Reply-To: tjhendry@king.mcs.drexel.edu (Jonathan Hendry)
Organization: Drexel University

I have an optical drive which was operating poorly and apparently
botched my two disks. I tried cleaning the drive (with the NeXT kit)
but I do not know if the cleaning worked, since both disks are bad.

When I put one in, if it doesn't spit it out immediately, the machine
says it needs to be initialized. All goes fine, for a while, then I start
getting read and write errors, and the machine says it couldn't write the
disk`s label.

Does it sound like the media is bad or is the drive still bad? Can an
optical drive permanently disable an optical disk?

Please respond via email. I have to go through all sorts of contortions
to read the NeXT groups at Drexel.

Thanks.

-- 
Jonathan W. Hendry
Drexel University College Of Information Studies
Anderson Financial Systems "Programmer-in-Exile" :)
tjhendry@queen.mcs.drexel.edu (No NEXTMail :( )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kohno@medicine.ics.kula.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Fujimasa Kohno)
Subject: Re: Help Wanted: External SCSI Disk (From SUN)
Organization: Dept. of Information Science, Kyoto University, JAPAN
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 09:25:22 GMT

In article <63133@mimsy.umd.edu> nzhang@umiacs.umd.edu (Ning Zhang)  
writes:
> I am new to this NeXT world. I have an external Seagate SCSI disk
> originally was connected to a SUN SparcStation. When I tried to
> connect the disk to a NeXTstation (TurboColor), the machine complained
> the SCSI error and the system would not boot. I changed the target ID
> of the disk several times with the same error.
> 
> I was wondering if there is any difference between the SCSI on NeXT
> and the one on SUN Sparc? Or, did I do something wrong? FYI, I used
> the SCSI cable from SUN for connecting the disk to the NeXT box.
> 
> I am sure the SCSI interface of the NeXT box is OK as a scanner  
connected
> to it works fine.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance,
> 
> -Ning
I believe SUN conforms to SCSI-2 whereas NeXT to SCSI-1. So, don't forget  
to set the jumper switch to work in asynchronized mode.
But, judging from the symptom, it may be a terminator problem.
-Fujimasa-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: Diagnostics for NeXT Optical Drive
Reply-To: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com
Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 10:38:57 GMT


I am wondering if anyone with experience in diagnosing and repairing NeXT  
Optical Disks would be willing to share their information with me.

I recently posted a query with the Subject: Q: Care and feeding of the NeXT  
Optical Disk Drive, which resulted in some good advice.  I totally cleaned out  
the dust in my system and reassembled it, making sure that everything was  
working as it should.  However, I still have trouble with the drive spinning  
down and up again when I try to use it.  This happens quite often now, although  
I was able to complete an entire fsck sweep on three different optical disks  
without a single spin-down.  I have no idea why it works sometimes and not  
others.  This is why I am now searching for some sort of diagnostic procedure.

About the only thing suggested which I did not do was to purchase a cleaning  
kit.  Perhaps a less expensive source for the NeXT Optical Drive cleaning kit  
would be the solution I need.  I don't even know NeXT's part number.  That  
would help, too.

P.S.  I am sure that Samual Goldberger will be letting me know what he would  
charge to fix or replace my drive, but I would prefer to handle this myself  
without waiting for shipping delays.  I feel technically competent enough to  
fix the drive, based upon my experience with other electronics, I just need the  
information.

Thanks in advance,
-- 
Brian Willoughby	Software Design Engineer, BSEE NCSU
BrianW@SoundS.WA.com	Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development
NeXTmail welcome
From: gstecker@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Chris Stecker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NCP and Apple Color Printer-differences?
Summary: Are they the same?
Date: 11 Jan 93 06:35:17 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego


Does anyone know what the technical diferences between the Next Color Printer
and the new Apple Color Printer are?  We got a demo unit of the ACP into the
UCSD bookstore last week, and it appears to be nearly identical to the NCP,
though we currently do not have a demo model of the latter.

Chris Stecker						gstecker@ucsd.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: goes@chimera.sph.umn.edu (James Goes)
Subject: printing on LJIIIp with Turboscript cartridge - problems
Keywords: postscript, Laserjet, printing
Reply-To: goes@chimera.sph.umn.edu (James Goes)
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: goes
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:43:41 GMT


My 8/105 workstation is connected (via serial A) to an HP LaserJet IIIp  
printer using a "Turboscript III" postscript emulation cartridge.  This  
cartridge is supposedly 100% compatible with Level 1 Adobe postscript.  I've  
tried a variety of PrintManager and printcap settings, but can't seem to get  
the printer to work.  I did get one page printed from mail o.k., but couldn't  
repeat it, and had no luck printing from other applications.  I've used  
printcaps for LJIII, LaserWriter, etc., checked the usage notes, NextAnswers  
and FAQs, all to no avail.  Sometimes the printer will give me an "Err: 34,  
flushing" error, which I don't understand. I did try saving some output as  
EPS, transferred it to my PC, and printed it from my PC with no problems.   
However this workaround won't work very well on a regular basis.

Does anyone have any clue what might be wrong?

Any suggested modifications to printcap or PrintManager?

Does anyone have experience with this printer and a different font cartridge?   
What cartridge do you use?  Could this be a cartridge problem?

Please respond directly by mail.  Thanks in advance for your advice.
--
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Health Management & Policy	+            (NeXTmail welcome!)    
School of Public Health		+ Phone:    (612) 624-3118
University of Minnesota		+ FAX:      (612) 624-3972
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From: yu@cs.utexas.edu (Yeong-Ho Yu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which CD Rom drives can I use for my Next?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 07:53:05 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: ai.cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: CD drive

What would be the best substitute for the NeXT CD Rom drive?
And what is the cheapest CD Rom drive that I can use with my
NeXT?

Any information on this would be appreciated very much.

Yeong
yu@cs.utexas.edu
--------------------------


Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: amencke@panix.com (Andres Mencke)
Subject: Hayes ISDNeXTender Questions.
Summary: Would you recommend ISDNeXTender?
Keywords: isdnextender,hayes,isdn,question,help
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 07:35:08 GMT

1)What software is available and how
  well does it perform?

2)How well does the ISDNeXTender itself
  perform on ISDN and ordinary telephone
  lines?  Any known hardware bugs?

Thanks.
Andres Mencke
Internet: amencke@panix.com       
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dlewis@fnma.com
Subject: Re: HELP: Dump problem with HP 35480A DAT Streamer
Reply-To: dlewis@fnma.com
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 16:53:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.100905.601@marcon.ka.sub.org>  
emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org (Evstathios Marinos) writes:
> Hi,
> 
> I've got problems with the DAT Streamer HP 35480A running at NeXT  
machines when  
> working with dump/restore.
> 
> Dumping files to the streamer workes fine, but performing a restore from  
a dump  
> produces a strange behaviour. Some times it works fine, the next time I  
get  
> following error:
> 
> ST:CMD=0x8 SR_IO_STATUS=2H
> Sense Key=0x0
> Sense Code=0x0
> Tape/Disk Read Error: I/O Error
> 
> I tried the streamer with various NeXT machines, Cube's, Mono's, Turbo  
Color's  
> and I always got the same problems with restore. When using tar to write  
and  
> read to the streamer no errors ocured.
> 
> Doe's anybody know this problem and how to solve it?
> 
> Thank you very much for your help.
> -- 
> Stati Marinos               | Phone :  +49 721 37 71 78
> Gartenstr. 2                | Fax   :  +49 721 37 71 79
> 7500 Karlsruhe 1  (GERMANY) | E-Mail:  emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org
> Registered NeXTDeveloper    |      - NeXTMail welcome -

I've had this problem with HP DAT drives too. I've found that you can  
sometimes "reset" the SCSI for the tape by executing "restore i" before  
using "restore if /dev/nrst0". This causes an attempted access to the (on  
my machine) non-existent Exabyte interface, and seems to be equivalent to  
applying a "swift kick" to the machine. I've discovered that applying this  
procedure once after rebooting the machine seems to fix things till the  
next time the machine is rebooted. Give it a try.

DL
---
David Lewis
Senior Software Engineer
On contract to: Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae)
dlewis@fnma.com (NeXTmail OK), 202-752-4785
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: druck@.afit.af.mil  (Dennis W. Ruck)
Subject: Spurious DMA Interrupts
Reply-To: druck@afit.af.mil (Dennis W. Ruck)
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:30:24 GMT

My previous post got garbled somehow ;-( Here's what I hope will be a complete  
post.

I have what I believe is a network related problem, but my network gurus here  
have been unable to track down any problems. The symptons are that whenever I  
perform some function that requires network access (nfs, ftp, ...) I get error  
messages of the following sort logged:

Spurious DMA interrupt - state = 1000000 @ 2000110
en0: transmitter not ready
spurious DMA interrupt
Jan  5 15:00:45 gandalf su: druck on /dev/ttyp1
spurious DMA interrupt
spurious DMA interrupt
NFS server frodo not responding still trying
Jan  5 15:45:12 gandalf lookupd[77]: netinfo failure, sleeping
NFS server frodo ok
Jan  5 15:59:31 gandalf lookupd[77]: netinfo waking
NFS server frodo not responding still trying

spurious DMA interrupt
Spurious DMA interrupt - state = 1000000 @ 2000110
Spurious DMA interrupt - state = 1000000 @ 2000110
spurious DMA interrupt


Network access is definitely slower than before these symptons cropped up.  
Also, ping gives unusual results as shown:

gandalf<54> ping frodo
PING frodo: 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 129.92.100.18: icmp_seq=1. time=2. ms
64 bytes from 129.92.100.18: icmp_seq=2. time=2. ms
64 bytes from 129.92.100.18: icmp_seq=3. time=2. ms
64 bytes from 129.92.100.18: icmp_seq=4. time=38. ms
64 bytes from 129.92.100.18: icmp_seq=5. time=2. ms
64 bytes from 129.92.100.18: icmp_seq=6. time=2. ms
64 bytes from 129.92.100.18: icmp_seq=7. time=2. ms
64 bytes from 129.92.100.18: icmp_seq=8. time=2. ms
64 bytes from 129.92.100.18: icmp_seq=9. time=2. ms
64 bytes from 129.92.100.18: icmp_seq=10. time=2. ms

[... lines deleted ...]

64 bytes from 129.92.100.18: icmp_seq=67. time=42. ms
64 bytes from 129.92.100.18: icmp_seq=68. time=2. ms
64 bytes from 129.92.100.18: icmp_seq=69. time=2. ms
^C
----frodo PING Statistics----
70 packets transmitted, 65 packets received, 7% packet loss
round-trip (ms)  min/avg/max = 2/6/60
gandalf<55> 

I would appreciate any help in tracking down the cause of these problems.

Thanks!

Dennis

--
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druck@afit.af.mil            Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio
                             (NeXTmail Welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: >>>HELP<<< PLEASE: Fujitsu hard disk problems
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:55:59 GMT

Wassim M. Jabi (wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu) wrote:
: Hi:
: I've been experiencing some trouble with my Fujitsu 520MB
: external.  It happens once or twice a week. I would hear the disk
: go "click, click" and then the console window will have these messages
: scrolling by. Many times an alert window would come up telling me
: to save documents before logging out. Any idea what is going on?
: 
: Messages:
: ------ cut here -----------------------------
: Target 0: HARDWARE ERROR; block 0H retry 1
: Target 0: NOT READY; retry 1
: Target 0: NOT READY; retry 2
:              .
:              .
:              .
: Target 0: NOT READY; retry 19
: sd0 (0,0): sense key:0x2  additional sense code: 0x4
:     SCSI Block in error = 0 (front porch)
: IO error on pagein: error = 5.
: Dec 30 15:00:18 Workspace: Controller exited.
: ------ cut here -----------------------------
: HELP!!!!!!

I strongly suggest that you invest in a good backup system.
You may be able to get away with a full reformat and restore, but I suspect 
that your disk is about to bite the big one.
--
=> Sherwood Botsford                   sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <= 
=> University of Alberta         Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=         
=> tel:403 492-3713                             fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Instructions on modifying CPU board for multi-CPU NeXTcube
Date: 7 Jan 1993 03:17:47 GMT
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: dale.handheld.com

In article <C09tsv.2AJ@ccu.umanitoba.ca> tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard  
Tilley) writes:
> In <C04DoL.L6J@sounds.wa.com> BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby) writes:
> 
> 
> >	I have heard from other UseNet folks that there was a posting (a long  
> >time ago) in comp.sys.next about how to modify a NeXTcube CPU board so that  
it  
> >would function in a different slot than the standard one - and also so it  
would  
> >not interfere with a second CPU board in the main position.  I believe this  
> >involved electrical modifications to the NeXTbus chip so that only power  
would  
> >come from the bus.  I don't believe there was any need to modify the monitor  
> >outputs, since the NeXTcube can handle a NeXTdimension setup with nothing  
> >plugged into the mono output of the main CPU (unlike the NeXTstation which  
> >doesn't like an open circuited monitor output).  This modified CPU board  
could  
> >then be networked to an unmodified main CPU for additional processing.
> 
> The backplane mod is very easy. It can be done without removing the  
backplane.
> 
> I am using an 030 board to drive a NextPrinter under 2.1,
> but have been unable to do this under 3.0.
> 
> The headless 030 boots fine but panics when it tries to start WindowServer.
> Everything else works fine, but WindowServer is needed to run the printer :-(
> 
> Has anyone succeeded in getting a headless Next to print under 3.0?
> 

Yes, buy a sound box and install it on the display port.


> .... Richard <tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
> -- 
> This space is not blank!

Jim

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kucerarj@elizabeth.dorm.rose-hulman.edu (Ryan J Kucera)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT Dimension
Date: 8 Jan 1993 03:12:54 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
NNTP-Posting-Host: 137.112.199.31

In article <1993Jan6.230231.27513@athena.mit.edu> mflafeer@athena.mit.edu  
(Mohamed F. Lafeer) writes:
> I have an opportunity to buy a NeXT Dimension system. I understand that  
the
> ND board never lived up to initial advertisement and may have some bugs.
> Could someone please summarize what this board can and cannot do and  
what
> bugs may exist?
> 
> I have three specific questions:
> 
> 1.) Does this board and its software work under 3.0?
Everything works and looks great.  The interface looks better than the  
color stations.
> 2.) How much memory do I need to add the the board?
I would at least have 16 megs on the board (I have 20). It just makes  
everything much faster.
> 3.) Does this card work with monitors other than the NeXT monitors?
I think it works only with NeXT monitors but I'm probably wrong.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> -M.Firoze Lafeer
> mflafeer@athena.mit.edu
Ryan
kucerarj@kucerarj.test.rose-hulman.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mflafeer@athena.mit.edu (Mohamed F. Lafeer)
Subject: Mac CD Drives
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:21:57 GMT

If I buy a NeXT computer can I use a Mac CD Drive to install 3.0?

Also, suppose I buy a NeXT with a 105 or 210 drive. If I take that drive
out and put in a larger drive, can I format it/install 3.0 by booting off the
CD?

Thanks,

M.Firoze Lafeer
mflafeer@athena.mit.edu

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From: tg@chmsr.gatech.edu (T. Govindaraj)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Seeking information on Wacom tablet
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:03:49 GMT
Reply-To: tg@chmsr.gatech.edu (T. Govindaraj)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: Center for Human-Machine Systems Research - Georgia Tech

I recently acquired a copy of Virtuoso. Since it can support the Wacom
tablet, I would like to determine if it is worth getting one. I have no
idea of how much it costs and what other applications can use the Wacom
tablet. Any comments and suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

govind
--
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From: lliou@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Lily Liou )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Micropolis 1.2GB drive model 1598-15
Date: 10 Jan 93 08:06:13 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Hello, everyone,

  Does anyone have any experience with using the Micropolis 1.2GB
hard disk (Model #1598-15) with their NeXT?  I'm looking to get
a fairly large and not-too-expensive second drive since I've filled
up my first one (well, I guess I filled it up a long time ago, but
I'm getting ready to make the $1500 plunge into another drive
only now...:-)).  The Micropolis is a SCSI2 device (capable of SCSI1
I'm told by the salesperson) that's made for PC type machines.
Would I need any special software or information to set it up for a
NeXT (probably, right?) or would it be plug and play (it's worth
hoping...my nice new RAM chips were plug and play!)?  Any help or
leads to where I can find more information would be greatly
appreciated.  I'll summarize and post any general or particular info
I receive.  
  Thanks very much in advance!

-Lily Liou
lliou@sdcc3.ucsd.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rmcghee@fnma.com(Rich McGhee)
Subject: PPP from Morningstar?
Reply-To: rmcghee@fnma.com
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:31:41 GMT

I think Morningstar supports SLIP and PP for the NeXT.  What is their  
number or e-mail address?

--
Rich McGhee, Advanced Technology, Fed National Mortgage Association
3900 Wisconsin Avenue, Wash DC 20016
NeXTMail: rmcghee@fnma.COM
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