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From: dhuber@autelca.ascom.ch (Daniel Huber)
Subject: PC-NFS problem with HP-UX
Organization: Ascom Autelca AG, Guemligen, Switzerland
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:22:00 GMT

Hi there,

A colleauge just reported me a problem he has with PC-NFS and HP-UX.
PC-NFS's "net use" seems to fail when the user logging into the PC-NFS 
server, is member of 8 or more groups. There is no problem, if the
user is member of 7 or less groups.
The same pcnfsd (recompiled ;-), on Sun's does not have this
behaviour. Loging in of users with more than 8 groups is no problem
here..
Does anybody know of this problem?

HP-UX 8.0, PC-NFS 4.1, SunOS4.1.1

Thanks for any hint...

Regards

Daniel

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UNIX is the answer....what was the question?
From: werner@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Mike Werner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: ntp and CAP
Date: 3 Oct 92 04:21:08 GMT
Organization: Physics Dept. The University of Queensland

Does HP-UX 8.05 have a timed or equivalent support for ntp services ?
Has anyone ported CAP v.? to HP-UX ?

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Yours,

Mike

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From: stroyan@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Mike Stroyan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: FAQ and Interprocess communication mechanism in HP-UX
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:54:42 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

> I am doing a study on Operating system features, and don't know which HP-UX
> literature to refer to. I have found the following IPC mechanisms common
> to other UNIX  OS but NO SURE whether there are available on HP-UX:-
> 
> Semaphores              Yes(implemented through the file system)
The file system is involved in O_EXCL, ioctl, fnctl, and lockf "semaphores".
There are also System V semaphores, which only optionally use file paths
for generating keys, (IPC names).
> pipes                   Yes
> signals                 Yes
> shared memory           Yes ???
Yes, system V shared memory calls.
> sockets                 Yes
> named pipes             Yes ???
Yes.
> streams                 ???
No.
> Remote procedure calls  Yes(used across networks)

> Also, the GUI for UX is Motif, does this used DDE (Dynamic Data Exchange) ??

> As far as I know, HP-UX also support Dynamic Link libraries, is this true ??
Yes, HP-UX shared libraries can be loaded by name while a process is running.

> Besides these, is there any IPC mechanisms that are special to HP-UX ??
HP-UX also has System V message queues.
I would also count pty psuedo devices as an IPC mechanism alongside pipes.

Mike Stroyan, mike_stroyan@fc.hp.com
From: davep@hpwin052.uksr.hp.com (Dave Porter)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:56:54 GMT
Subject: Re: HP1000, HP9000 Model 720, and HPGL->PS conversion
Organization: HP Response Centre, Berkshire, England.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

>> If you have been using HP1000, pls see if you could share with
>> me its processor type and operating system name.  I know the 
>> HP9000 series is using HP-UX and M68K or PA RISC.  But HP1000???
> 
> HP1000 uses it's own propriatary micro code. It is not compatible with 
> anything. The operating system is RTE, with a front shell with the
> name 'fmgr'.
>

There are a couple of different families of the HP1000, all of which run
the RTE (Real Time Executive) operating system.  It's a CICS processor
which was custom-built for these systems - the latest flavour of the
operating system is RTE-A which runs on the "A-series" systems. It uses
the successor to FMGR (File Manager), a front-end known as CI (Command
Interpreter). It's UN*X look-and-feel ish, but as the previous poster
notes, the operating system is proprietary and unique to the HP1000.
Its main purpose is in realtime systems for Factory Automation / Process
Control / Realtime data capture etc...

Regards,
Dave Porter

Not a statement, official or otherwise, of the Hewlett-Packard Company.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: nevin@titan.trl.OZ.AU (Joseph Nevin)
Subject: HP-UX Patches ????
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:14:35 GMT


Does anyone know if  HP-UX patches (specifically PHKL_0743) are
available through the Internet?  If they are not available I can
get it in a few days time, but would be able to get it via the 
Internet.  Thanks 

  Joe.

nevin@titan.trl.oz.au
From: garlick@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jim Garlick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: lpr, talk port to hpux
Date: 27 Sep 92 20:31:41 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico

We have pretty robust hpux ports of 4.3bsd-reno lpr, and talk/talkd
sitting out for anon ftp on guzzler.ecst.csuchico.edu in pub/hpux-ports.

These versions are redistributable without an AT&T license and are running
on series 300/400/700/800 HP's.  The lpr port includes an input filter for 
LaserJetIII's with PostScript cartridge (supports page accounting).

Of course you don't *need* lpr with HP's enhanced AT&T spooler, but if
you have lpr running elsewhere, it may be the right thing.

Jim Garlick
CSU Chico
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: dbrooks@penge.osf.org (David Brooks)
Subject: Re: Looking for PCL to PostScript filter
Followup-To: comp.sys.hp
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: usa
Date: 2 Oct 92 23:34:31

esc@netcom.com (Steve Etchelecu) writes:
> I am looking for a PCL to PostScript filter.  Any information regarding 
> this topic would be appreciated.  
> 
> I have an HP9000 with a PostScript printer and would like to be able to
> print from HP's LaserROM product which seems to support only PCL printers.

Funny; I had logged in to ask exactly the same question.  We have a number
of PostScript printers on the network, so I guess I am asking for a
(ill-formed question here) filter mumble model mumble remote.  Something
that looks like a printer but ends up in PS being fed to rlp.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: mikes@biochemistry.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: What to do when HP-UX is corrupted?
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:09:18 GMT
X-Mailer: mail-news 2.0.3


I have accidentally corrupted /hp-ux, and so my hp won't reboot.
We have a backup on a remote disk, and I have managed to semi-reboot
with the system disk.  Is there some way of getting the machine back
up to copy this, or to put a new version on without having to re-install
the whole thing (which I believe cleans the disk)

Yours semi-desparately,

Mike Smith
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: law40003@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN YEW KEONG)
Subject: Re: HP DashBoard for Windows
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 04:30:33 GMT

D
Hey, this program is really solid, and, even though I have never been
convinced that any replacement to ProgMan is any good, I found that
Dashboard has increased my productivity at least 30%. But it all depends
on how you use windows. I print on multiple printers and quick access to
printer selection and configuration is essential. Moreover, I multitask
regularly, and quick launching of the applications is useful. The
multiple virtual screens are great and much more reliable than the other
stand alone ones available for the market.

The only drawback is the unavailability of a larger font for the
application. When is 1.1 coming out?
From: pld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Paul Dineen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: 92 spec marks for HP9000/710
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:35:44 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

>   |
>   |Does anyone out there have the 92 spec marks (integer and float)
>   |for the HP9000 710. I checked with my local sales rep and he
>   |is still pushing the old spec marks (for this particular machine).
> 
> They were published in the March 92 SPEC Newsletter (Vol 4, No 1):
>    SPECint92: 31.6
>    SPECfp92:  47.6

 You might want to ask for the SPEC numbers for a 710 on 9.0.  They should 
 be higher because of compiler improvements.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Subject: Re: HP calculator (TThe X version)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:07:23 GMT
Reply-To: rjn@FC.HP.COM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.3 PL6]

Stan Brown (stan@dixie.com) wrote:

> Is the HP calcualtor Xclient that comes with the (000's available in
> source form anywhere?  I like it very much and miss it when not running on
> the HP's.  I would like to compile it for our other machines.

The source is apparently not even available to tweakers and porters inside
HP.  The story, as I understand it, is:

 1. The HP-UX executable is a GUI and a binary interpreter, executing actual
    HP Series 10 (11C, 12C, 16C) raw handheld bits, and emulating calc
    hardware.  The calculator division is not keen on publishing this
    interpreter.  The actual calculation algorithms are just arbitrary data
    structures.

 2. Even if the GUI/interp source were harmless, most of the things people
    want to change in xhpcalc require having an HP Series 10 calc
    development environment.  The necessary tools (like cross-compiler,
    linker) apparently don't exist in HP-UX form.  I don't know if a simple
    port would require these tools.

There is probably a market opportunity here for the people who have control
of this code to port it to other platforms themselves, and sell it.  I don't
know if that has been seriously considered.

You can work-around the problem if you have "SharedX" on your HP
workstations.  With SharedX, you can push copies of your xhpcalc window out
to most other X server seats.

Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
Bob Niland      Internet: rjn@FC.HP.COM               3404 East Harmony Road
                CompuServe:  71044,2124               Ft Collins CO 80525-9599

This article represents only the opinion[s] of its author, and is not an
official or unofficial position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard
Company.  The text is provided for informational purposes only.  It is
supplied without warranty of any kind.
From: broadley@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu (Bill Broadley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: HPUX 9.0 LaserRom
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:38:49 GMT
Reply-To: broadley@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Came in the mail today... hope the Cd-roms with hpux 9.0 are
following close behing ;-)



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: minocha@cae.wisc.edu (Punit Minocha)
Subject: HP3070 Tester
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Distribution: usa
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:12:09 CDT


Hello Fellow netters

I was wondering if someone out there knows anything about the HP3070
tester.. Where can I get information on this.

Thanks

Punit
From: stan@dixie.com (Stan Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: SLIP (That's PPL right?) over terminal server
Keywords: SLIP PPL
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:44:22 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.

urle@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Uli Betzler (urle)) writes:

>In article <v1-pdp-@dixie.com>, stan@dixie.com (Stan Brown) writes:
>|> 
>|>    At both endse the modems (Worldblazers) are actually connected to
>|>    Chase Iolan terminal servers.  The problem that I am runing inot is
>|>    the when I get everything configured the way that I think it should
>|>    be I can call the remote site from my office machine, but when I
>|>    try to start up the slip process on the remote 9000/720 I get an
>|>    error message somthing like:
>|> 
>|>    "your are loged in using ptyxx, PPL requires a serial port"
>|> 
>|>    Since the pty is really a socket which does go to a serial prt, I
>|>    would think that I could make this work.
>|> 

>I had the same problem. We use our terminal servers to give our users
>access to the workstations and mainframes via a modem-pool.
>I've patched ppl for HP-UX 8.05 (in the 8.07 version HP stripped out the
>symbols) to accept connections from ptys, so a user can connect to a
>workstation and then use ppl.

>urle


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   So, is there a PD version fo SLIP that I can get and compile on the
   HP's ?

   Thanks
   stan

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,news.software.b
From: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson))
Subject: Re: C News on HP9000/270 HP-UX 8.07
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:06:48 GMT

In article <BvEAo1.D9o@ux1.isu.edu> simmdan@ux1.isu.edu (Daniel Simmons) writes:
>I have found it easier to simply link any of these files (especially
>awk-7.0) into the directory NEWSCTL/bin (usually /usr/lib/news/bin).  It
>was put there specifically for programs that need to override other
>programs by the same name.  It is already first in the path for all the
>scripts and things.

I put the /usr/local/binspecial stuff on everybody's default path
(at the front) so all users get a functioning 'mail' and 'rsh' command.
I agree that special stuff can go into the news/bin, but I prefer to
keep machine-specific hacks that can't be applied automatically out of
"standard" distribution trees (either vendors, or pd packages), so it
can't get modified by subsequent updates.

>Also note, I have been told that you can use gnu awk or mawk instead of
>awk-7.0 from HP if it is easier for you to get those.  (awk-7.0 came in
>the /usr/contrib/old directory on my 9000/827 if I remember correctly)

gawk/mawk are supposed to be OK, but I don't have either of them
; awk-7.0 was supposed to have been supplied with 8.0x on the 700s,
but was left off by mistake I was told by the HP Response Center.

>>You can also patch all the awk scripts to replace '\t' by a real
>>TAB character: newsbin/inject/{defhdrs.awk,tear},
>>newsbin/relay/canonsys.awk.
>
>I did this once upon a time, and I don't recommend it.  It's a lot of work,
>and you can't be sure you get everything.

Agreed; I did this as a temporary workaround until I got an awk that
worked. I did search the entire C News tree looking for 'awk' and '\t',
so I'm pretty sure I got them all, and it worked that way for a week
with no problems.

>>What are the chances that any HP computer system will ever "work" properly?
>>... and Slim just left town. -*- Mike Peterson, SysAdmin, U/Toronto Chemistry
>
>The question is not whether it will "work" properly--the question is will it
>work properly the FIRST time.

I have long given up on anything working the FIRST time; I am happy if it
ever works properly. Our HP systems don't.
-- 
What are the chances that any HP computer system will ever "work" properly?
... and Slim just left town. -*- Mike Peterson, SysAdmin, U/Toronto Chemistry
From: pld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Paul Dineen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP and windows NT
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:01:41 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

> (Note that many of our computer nerd conventions are different than
> those in the real world.  My quoted phrase above includes the comma
> inside the quotation, as the real world usually does it.  The included
> question uses computer nerd style.  I use both, depending on
> circumstance and audience. Both are valid in English.)

  So, the British must all be nerds.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: stevej@hpc.mentorg.com (Steve Jumonville)
Subject: Re: g++
Originator: stevej@hpc.mentorg.com
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 20:46:47 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics 
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 


In article <NEAL.92Oct1164417@neal.ctd.comsat.com>, neal@ctd.comsat.com (Neal Becker) writes:
|> Don't bother.  Get gcc-2.2.2 instead.  This is almost 100% working on
|> hp.
|> 
|> I hear gcc-2.3 will be out soon.  I strongly suspect the remaining
|> major problems with the port will be fixed.

You can get gcc-2.2.2 from the InterWorks machine (HP User Group system), iworks.ecn.uiowa.edu.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: puneet@franklin.ee.umr.edu (Puneet Grover)
Subject: TIFF loses and regains color (re: TIFF loses color ... ) 
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 04:08:17 GMT
Reply-To: puneet@ee.umr.edu (Puneet Grover)
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla
Originator: puneet@ee.umr.edu

In article <1992Sep30.173949.27584@umr.edu> you write:
>Greetings Networld,
>
>	I scanned a photograph in TIFF format and viewed it using HP
>	Imageview on my 730.
>
>	The image appeared in color when I piped the display to a 400t but
>	appeared in B&W on my console ( an A1097C ) . 
>
>	Is there a simple explanation for this ? What am I doing wrong ? 
>
>Thanks on advance for your responses ! 
>

I managed to figure out a none too elegant way of overcoming this. 
When I logged out with Imageview running in my environment - upon
restoration at the next login - the colors returned to the TIFFs. 

I am still wondering why this occured - any answers ? 

Puneet



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: cantin@nrccsb3.di.nrc.ca (Claude Cantin)
Subject: /etc/hosts and name servers...
Organization: National Research Council of Canada
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 15:32:21 GMT

How does one set up /etc/resolv.conf to check "/etc/hosts" BEFORE checking
the name server? 

On SGI's, the line "hostresorder local bind" in resolv.conf does the trick.  On
the SUN's, we had to rebuild some shared library.  How is it done on the HP's???

We running HP-UX 8.07 on a 710.

Thanks,

    Claude
From: ufe@dlva.dl.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: 3rd party disks
Date: 5 Oct 92 10:56:50 GMT
Reply-To: ufe@dlva.dl.ac.uk ()
Organization: SERC Daresbury Laboratory

From reading the News, there appears to be alot of 3rd party disks on
HP kit out there. This being so, can anyone tell me what happens when
a 3rd party disk goes bad ?
We have WREN 7s, and a couple of times fsck has objected with a 
I/O error in critical disk errors. The normal response is to reformat.
However, mediainit cannot handle WREN 7s - giving an I/O error as
soon as it hits the bad block. The only solution (it appears) is to
reformat on another machine (eg SUN) and put it back on the HP.
(mediainit then sails through !). There must be someone out there
who knows how to reformat on an HP or has no one seen a disk go bad ?
HP's response was "what do you expect". So much for their commitment
to open systems and standards :-( - it appears that they are the
only major vendor for which their are problems with "standard" - ie
WREN - SCSI disks. 
Cheers,
	Mark
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From: chuckm@hpunsca.canada.hp.com (Chuck Munro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP 9000/300 color monitor on a PC?
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:22:05 GMT
Organization: H-P Canada Ltd., Dartmouth, N.S.


> Does anyone know if it is possible to use a 16" color monitor for a HP
> 9000/300 on a PC with a (S)VGA adapter?

----------

The short answer to your question is no, but if you want to invest in a
high-res video card, the answer is yes, with caution.

I use an old 16" HP/Sony 98785A (1024x768) on my PC at home.  It is driven
by an ATI Graphics/Ultra video card.

If you have the 16" HP/Sony 98789A (1280x1024), you will need an appropriate
video card.

(As a side comment, the 19" HP/Sony 98782A and 98753A work at 1024x768, and
 the 19" HP/Sony 98784A and 98754A work at 1280x1024.)

A standard (S)VGA card will not drive any of these monitors correctly.  All
of these monitors have fixed horizontal and vertical sweep rates.  All are
60Hz vertical, NON-interlaced.

I solved this problem by also having an inexpensive 14" monitor on my PC.
I designed a special relay circuit that detects the 1024x768 horiz. signal.
This automatically switches the output of the card from the 14" to the 16"
monitor when the ATI card goes into high-res mode.  Because of the high
quality of the Sony monitor, I get rather spectacular results with it.
Why did I go to all this trouble?   Well, the 16" monitor was free  :-)

Another issue -  none of these monitors have separate horiz. and vert.
sync. input terminals.  They use sync-on-green instead.  If the PC's
video card doesn't produce sync-on-green, then you will have to get
an adapter board (from Sony) which installs inside the monitor.  Sony
calls this the "M" board, but I don't remember their part number.  The same
part might be purchased from HP.   I can get you the HP part number if you
are still interested.  The installation will take some drilling on the back
panel, but no electrical work (it plugs into the sync-input board).

I hope this helps.

Chuck.

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| official statement of Hewlett-Packard.    |
+------------------------------- ve1ajz ----+
From: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Mark Bixby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: HP's Openspool & MIT's Palladium
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:46:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: spock.BvD61C.5B0
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

We're running HP's Openspool here, and I'd like to achieve a tighter integration
with our Banyan Vines spooler than is possible with HP's "network interface"
method.  Since Openspool is built on top of MIT's Palladium, would the 
Palladium APIs from the Athena distribution still be functional underneath
Openspool?
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From: hstroyan@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Howard Stroyan)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:54:57 GMT
Subject: Re: vue mouse focus
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA