HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: blake@acsu.buffalo.edu (Brian C. Blake)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: How to handle I.T.?
Date: 29 Dec 92 04:03:57 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci


Much another person added about the I.T. Reel, it is a great prop...

Yes, it is a bit expensive, but I can honestly say I have used it in my
shop and have fooled other magicians because they're not familiar with the
principle of "retractable" I.T....

The thing comes with about 50 feet of I.T. and will last you awhile...we
always make sure we have them in stock...they run $34.95... [PLUG PLUG] ;-)

They also put out a video (Sorcery Shop, the company that produces the I.T.
Reel)...which sells for $20...but we sell the two (Reel and Video) for
$49.95... [PLUG PLUG]... Double ;-)

As far as recommending the thing, I highly recommend it just because it is
one of the most innovative ideas to use I.T. and one of the easiest ways to
do any kind of floating effect...the thing is great!!!

Anyways, if interested, E-mail me...or drop a line...

Four Jokers Magic Shop
45 Main St. - P.O. Box 38
Tonawanda, NY   14150
(716)-693-7930

Later...
-- 
Brian Blake
blake@cs.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: rbutterw@math.uwaterloo.ca (Ray Butterworth [MFCF])
Subject: Who was that man?
Organization: Math Faculty Computing Facility, University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:34:39 GMT

The other night on a ten year old Paul Daniels TV show
there was a very talented magician.  Unfortunately I missed
his introduction and the closing credits.

He spoke with a very heavy Spanish accent (possibly South American)
and performed card tricks entirely with his left hand (he was
possibly missing his right hand).  These all involved various
shufflings and rearrangments of the positions of cards within
a deck.   One trick in particular consisted of three black and
three red cards that he would arrange into one order and then
display as being in a completely different order.  He repeated
the trick several times, each time more slowly, and each time
exposing more of the cards as he placed them to ensure that
everyone knew for sure which card was which.

Does anyone know who this performer was?
Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:13346 talk.politics.misc:65074
From: bill@cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Reply to Marc Talbot #2
Date: 23 Dec 92 21:13:18 GMT
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program

You of course ignore my disappointment when Beter introduced
his robotoids, something much more difficult to pull off than
hovering particle-beam weapons.  Any explanation for how
Russians or Americans could have given robots convincing
personalities at the highest strata of American public
politics 15 years ago, when even now, natural language
understanding and human-like motor control still appear
to be problems far surpassing our current expectations
for the next 25 years, especially when one considers the
state of Integrated Circuitry in 1978?

But then that probably fits into the news letter on how
the Russians were leaders in high-energy physics without
having computers.

Nope, Beter blew it.  He could have risen to the ranks of
a Wilhelm Reich or William S. Burroughs, a true underground
cult conspiracy freak, but he just couldn't gauge the limits
of his technological posturing.

Too bad he was eaten by tse-tse flies at a reunion for
Chinese microbiologists.  It would be wonderful to have
him here to talk to in person.

-- 
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{{{{ bill@cognet.ucla.edu    310-206-3987 fax           xxx              }}}}
{{{{ ~more, ~better, ~faster [80's motto]                x              }}}}
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Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.revisionism
From: pierce@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Brad Pierce)
Subject: Reporting hate crimes
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 16:34:38 GMT

--------------------  FORWARDED POSTING  -----------------------------
From: odin@halcyon.halcyon.com (Hank Roth)
Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive
Subject: Report hate crimes on Hateline
Date: 23 Dec 92 20:49:35 GMT
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service


                           R E P O R T    
 
                           A   H A T E  
 
                            C R I M E 
 
 
              If you have been a victim or a witness
          to bigory, racism, or homophobia, or you have 
                seen evidence in your community of 
                       KLAN, NAZI, SKINHEAD,
             or other organized hate group activity, 
 
        Please call National Hate Crimes Statistics line:
 
                        1-800-347-H A T E
 
 
                        In North Carolina
 
                               CALL
 
                    North Carolinians Against 
                  Racist and Religious Violence
 
                          1-800-253-5812
 
 
                   (If you have a number of an 
                 organization in your state that 
                  opposes Racism, list it here.)
 
--------------  END OF FORWARDED POSTING  ---------------------------

Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,misc.test,alt.test
From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: STS-1 Disaster -- follow-up #2
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 03:23:45 GMT

In article <1hlbvlINN8up@network.ucsd.edu> spl@ivem.ucsd.edu (Steve Lamont) writes:
>In article <1992Dec27.222007.28325@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>>(see the James Bond film 'Moonraker' for more details.  I always wondered
>>how one could launch 6 shuttles from underground without anyone seeing
>>them launch, and without anyone feeling the ground shaking)
>
>Easy.  If everyone is a Replicant -- er -- I mean, Robotiod -- they
>can be simply programmed not to feel it

So how do they replace everyone in an entire area without anyone noticing?

:-)

Simon

Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: gstrand@nyx.cs.du.edu (Gary Strand)
Subject: Re: World famous Usenet conspiracy
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Reply-To: gstrand@nyx.UUCP (Gary Strand)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 20:42:33 GMT

  Courtesy "The Economist", 12/26/92-1/8/93 issue, volume 325 #7791.

  The following are measured on a scale from 0 to 5, 0 = lowest, 5 = highest:
  P = Power
  S = Secrecy
  O = Organization
  B = Strength of Beliefs
  P = Peculiarity of rituals
  E = Exclusivity

  Conspiracy ("Network")                          P    S    O    B    P    E
  ---------------------------------------------  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---
  Old Etonians                                    3    1    1    2    3    4
  Cambridge University Conservative Association   3    1    4    0    2    2
  Skull and Bones                                 2    4    2    0    5    5
  Inspection Generale de Finance                  5    2    5    3    1    5
  Doon School                                     4    1    2    3    1    4
  law school of Tokyo U.                          5    2    5    3    1    5
  Rhodes scholarship                              3    0    3    1    1    4
  Mont Pelerin Society                            2    3    3    5    2    3
  Committee to Defend the Workers (KOR)           4    3    3    4    1    4
  The Communist Party (XSU)                       4    5    2    1    1    3
  Broederbond                                     4    4    4    4    4    2
  Muslim Brotherhood                              2    3    4    5    3    1
  Opus Dei                                        2    4    4    5    5    1
  Freemasonry                                     3    4    4    3    5    2
  Trilateral Commission                           4    3    3    1    0    5
  USENET and Internet                             2    0    1    2    5    1
  Order of Illuminati                             5    5    5    5    5    5

  Please be careful of those to whom you distribute this list! :-)

--
Gary Strand, lurking as gstrand@isis.cs.du.edu
(preferred: strandwg@ncar.ucar.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc,alt.activism.d,misc.legal,alt.pol
From: pierce@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Brad Pierce)
Subject: Re: "A nation chosen by GOD"?
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 22:44:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.193942.13056@dcs.warwick.ac.uk> simon@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Simon Clippingdale) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.182807.12212@cs.ucla.edu> pierce@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Brad Pierce) writes:


>> [followed by Brad's own editorial drivel, such as:]

As I clearly noted, I *forwarded* the article. *None* of the
contents, drivel or otherwise, were mine!

-- Brad Pierce --

Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc,alt.activism.d,misc.legal,alt.pol
From: cescript@mtu.edu (Charles Scripter)
Subject: Re: Weinberger's Pardon
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 21:29:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.134027.25084@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
jlinder@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeffrey S Linder) writes:

> But aren't we talking about foreign policy though?  Besides the ability
> to declare war, what foreign policy powers are given to Congress in the
> Constitution?

Article 1, Section 8:  "The Congress shall have Power..."

paragraph 3:  "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the
               several States, and with the Indian Tribes;"

I think this clause give Congress the Constitutional power to pass such
a law.  Not to declare foreign policy, but to control foreign trade (which
was the issue at hand).

> If there are none, passing laws restricting the FP powers
> of the executive branch would seem to me to be unconstitional.

Article 2, Section 2, paragraph 2:

    "He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of
     the Senate to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the
     Senators present concur; ...."

This section seemed to be closest to the discussion at hand.  This
doesn't make it real clear that Congress was limiting the President's
Constitutional power.  Perhaps someone can give a pointer to a
better/different section.

> As an aside, the facts about IranContra have been known to Congress for
> years.  Why didn't the Congress impeach Reagan then if things were so
> awful?  These frivolous charges by Walsh against Weinberger before the
> election were thrown out.  The press release from the Clinton campaign
> was dated before the indictment.  This smacks of political dirty tricks
> that are supposed to be the forte of the Republicans (wait... Walsh is a
> Republican.... hmmmmm?)

I wonder if we can get Walsh to go after those other Law breakers?...
(I'm talking about Congress... ;-)  Congress has enumerated Powers
in Article, Section 8, and the 10th Amendment limits them to only
their Constitutionally enumerated powers.  Since they have ALL sworn
to uphold the Constitution, any bill exceeding those enumerated powers
is a violation to their oath of office (they have *VIOLATED* the Law
of the Land!!!)

Article 6, Section 2:

   "This Constitution ... shall be the supreme Law of the Land;..."

Article 6, Section 3:

   "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, ... shall be
    bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; ..."

Does anyone else think that Congress has passed any bill which fails
to fall under Article 1, Section 8?  I certainly do!

-- 
Charles Scripter   *   cescript@phy.mtu.edu
Dept of Physics, Michigan Technological University, Houghton, MI 49931
-------------------------------------------------------------------
"...when all government... in little as in the great thing, shall be
drawn to Washington as the centre of all power, it will render
powerless the checks provided of one government on another and will
become as venal and oppressive as the government from which we
separated."  Thomas Jefferson, 1821
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: pierce@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Brad Pierce)
Subject: _Bigotry, Prejudice and Hatred: Definition, Causes and Solutions_
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 23:36:04 GMT

Reprinted *without* permission from the Los Angeles Times, Book Review,
Sunday, January 3, 1993, p. 9:

-----------------  REPRINTED REVIEW  ---------------------------------

by Charles Solomon

_Bigotry, Prejudice and Hatred: Definition, Causes and Solutions_,
edited Robert M. Baird and Stuart E. Rosenbaum (Prometheus Book:
$15.95; 238 pp., paperback original). This collection of articles and
excerpts drawn from diverse sources is the latest installment in the
"Contemporary Issues" series from Prometheus. The selections range from
Jean-Paul Sartre's withering portrait of a French anti-semite to
discussions of the effort to enforce politically correct speech on
American college campuses. In addition to racism, sexism, religious
bigotry and homophobia, the authors address problems of
multiculturalism and the attempts to extend the definition of prejudice
to include the categories of "weightism" and "lookism." Not
surprisingly, the book offers no easy answers, but it does provide a
starting point for discussions of this insidious problem.

-------------------  END OF REPRINTED REVIEW  ------------------------
From: sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti)
Subject: The Spear of Destiny? (some very raw data).
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 06:59:55 GMT


from thread in WELL (news 1142):
Yes, that's right about the practical joke played on Putzi.
There is an interesting synchronicity here along the lines of Trever
Ravenscroft's The Spear of Destiny - it is multi-leveled.

1. Putzi's Sedgwick's relation to Hitler closely parallels Margherita
Sarfatti's relation to Mussolini. Both Putzi and Margherita worked for US
during WWII.

There is afunny story how the Pentagon was built because of pressure on FDR
about his cousin Putzi by Sam Rayburn.

2. I meet Putzi's grandson at Savoy Tivoli in late 70's he becomes part of
the SAR circle singing us Tyrolean songs in Lederhosen at magic mushroom
parties. I later meet Suky Sedgwick and fall in love with her. Putzi's
grandson returns to Munich with his new bride whose father owns Der Stern.
Prior to meeting Putzi's grandson I wrote Hitler's Last Weapon a parody of
Werner Erhard - played on Pacifica Radio produced by Steven Hill with Eric
Bauersfeld. I play Hitler's Last Weapon for Hand Syberberg at Francis Ford
Coppola's House after screening of Syberberg's Our Hitler which features
Putzi - though I knew nothing of Putzi and would not meet his grandson until
later.

3. My relation to Werner weakly parallels Putzi's to Hitler and Margherita's
to Mussolini - and it parallels Rashi de Troyes (Solomon ha Zarfatt 1040 -
1105) to Godfrey's - the leader of the first Crusade and the inspiration for
the Parsifal legend that Hitler loved so much. Mussolini had the idea that
the future creates the past and precognitive prophecy is reputed to be a
power of Rashi Sarfatti. Suky's granddad Henry Dwight Sedgwick has the idea
that the future creates the past anticipating Fred Hoyle's thery that it
does by 80 years - almost word for word.

All of this is weird Phillip Dick like evidence for the intervention of
H.P. Lovecraft's "the old ones" in opur personal lives and gor VALIS
and what John Lilly calls "cosmic coincidence control"
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.atheism,talk.religion.misc
From: gst@stiatl.salestech.com (Greg Tucker)
Subject: Does FBI still ignore Cosa Nostra?
Summary: Is the FBI after Hoover still afraid of Mafia?
Keywords: FBI, Mafia
Organization: Sales Technologies, Inc.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:26:16 GMT

    We know that Herbert Hoover vigorously pursued
civil rights activists, bank robbers, and communists
during the 50's and 60's while ignoring and even
denying the existence of the Mafia.

    We know that the FBI is currently still engaged
in campaigns against environmentalists,  Indian
rights activists, and other rights groups.

    My question for netland is "Does the FBI still
have a hands off approach to the Mafia?"
(From my perspective it appears that they do.)

    Second question: Why do they have a hands off
approach? Have they been bribed? Blackmailed? 
During Hoover's time, anyone who persued the Mafia
became Agent Non-Grata and was demoted. Is this
still true? Does the Mafia have control of the
higher echelons of the FBI and CIA?




    

-- 
    \\\\\\\ 
    | ~  ~|
    | O O |            Tuck        gst@salestech.com
-mn----^----nm---------------------------------------
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: _Jesus: A Life_ by A.N. Wilson
Organization: Cuddlehogs Anonymous
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 00:23:56 GMT

In article <1hvpisINNg0i@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> bafta@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (dragon-monster) writes:
:I read a very interesting book, titled "Holy Blood, Holy Grail", in
:which 3 *journalists* do reconstruct the life of Jesus (in part).  I recall
:that they emphasized the difficulty an historian would have in doing so.
:
:I no longer have the book, so can't post a more accurate reference.  I
:also seem to recall that the book caused quite a stir in Europe.  It's
:about 10 years old, I think.  It was very interesting and sensible.

If that's the book I'm thinking of, *ROFL*!  Isn't that the loony conspiracy-
theory book about the Kings of France being direct descendants of Jesus
or some such rot?

G
Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:13395 talk.politics.misc:65330
From: eidetics@nic.cerf.net (Eidetics Int'l)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Reply to Marc Talbot #3
Date: 24 Dec 1992 20:21:49 GMT
Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer Group
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: nic.cerf.net

Posted by Jon Volkoff, mail address eidetics@cerf.net

Perhaps most of you here have seen Marc Talbot's (met48546@uxa.csu.uiuc.edu)
comments about various aspects of the Dr. Beter Audio Letters, my Replies to
Marc Talbot #1 and #2, along with his replies to my replies, etc.  This article
is directed mostly to him, but I thought I'd post it even so because it might
be profitable for everyone else to listen too.

It is my observation that although you have demonstrated an eagerness to
debate these issues in public, and have taken the time to take up net bandwidth
asking a great deal of plausible-sounding questions about these issues, you have
correspondingly demonstrated an unwillingness to do some really serious research
on either the Audio Letters themselves or the fields of knowledge that they
bear on, no doubt because it is, to you, "boring and tedious" like you say the
Audio Letters are.  A lot of the plausible-sounding questions you ask and
requests for documentation you make could have already been answered by more
careful and detailed reading of the Letters, along with associated thorough
background research in these matters, and also paying closer attention to the
responses to your questions I have given in my replies.  I frankly do not have
the time to sit at this terminal, take you by the hand, and answer each one of
your questions in detail, especially when I have a full-time job to tend to and
other, newer, and better questions to answer from other news readers, not to
mention the fact that I would just be repeating information that I have already
posted on these newsgroups in previous Audio Letters.  So why don't we do this
instead.

I have already reposted and emailed to you a copy of the "Introduction and
Bird's Eye View" of the Letters, as you previously requested a summary if one
exists, and it does exist.  For the remainder, if this does not answer all of
your questions (and somehow, I don't think it will), we can do one of two
things:

1) I can email to you the back issues 1-60 which I previously posted,
and put you on the mailing list for the remaining 20 which I will post, or

2) Wait for some point in the (hopefully) near future when these things get on
an ftp site near you, so that you can transfer them yourself.

Either way there's no need to read through all of them by hand; you would be
able to do keyword and phrase searches to track down very quickly the
information you are after.  You can do comparisons of related information and
mesh them together, and so on.  And there would be no need for me to sit here
and answer your posts and take up yet more bandwidth.

Anyway, if you are interested, let me know.

Jon Volkoff
eidetics@cerf.net
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: _Jesus: A Life_ by A.N. Wilson
Organization: Cuddlehogs Anonymous
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 00:19:11 GMT

In article <273273q@rpi.edu> kasprj@rpi.edu writes:
:|> I don't follow.  Are you saying that there was no Jesus, or that
:|> Jesus Is Not whom religion says He is, or that Jesus IS whom
:|> religion says He is?
: 
: I believe he's saying that the religious version of Jesus is the only one
:we have a clear picture of. There's very little historical data about Jesus
:outside of the religious literature. 

Just to keep some alt.conspiracy interest, it's good to see the Dead Sea
Scrolls have been published.  There seems to be a small amount of
contemporary croff-reference about Jesus in them where he's referred to as
'The Spouter of Lies'.

G
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: cole@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Sandra Stewart-Cole)
Subject: Re: Does FBI still ignore Cosa Nostra?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:23:03 GMT
Keywords: FBI, Mafia


I have to agree with the previous follow-up: the FBI has actually pretty well 
gutted La Cosa Nostra over the past 2 decades. The Gotti prosecution is largely
just the latest part of this. What remains in the US of the Sicilian Mafia is a
ghost of it's former self, with appreciably less organization, very messy 
successions un-resolved, and it's most experienced members jailed or turned. 
Yes it still exists, but far from controlling the FBI or CIA, it has decayed 
and been chopped up to the extent where it may not really any longer qualify as
organized crime.
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: World famous Usenet conspiracy
Organization: Cuddlehogs Anonymous
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:35:11 GMT

In article <1hol2nINN7qp@morrow.stanford.edu> BL.JYC@forsythe.stanford.edu (Jon Corelis) writes:
:periodical, we're all part of conspiracy.  If you're interested, our
:ranking is Power - 2, Secrecy - 0, Organization - 1, Strength of Belief
:-2, Peculiarity of Ritual - 5, and Exclusivity - 1.  I think that's
:pretty accurate, except maybe for the high Peculiarity of Ritual score.
:Nothing I do on the net is weird.  I'm not talking about the rest of
:you.

I dunno, I suspect they understand the net better than you do :-)

G
(You mean you *don't* walk round your keyboard 3 times anti-clockwise
before you post??? - HEY GUYS! - this one ain't one of *us*...)