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From: markc@onondaga.East.Sun.COM (Mark Conti - Sun Syracuse, NY FE)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Metabolism Query
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:36:54 GMT
Reply-To: markc@onondaga.East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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How do you figure your calories per body weight? 
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From: grama@yoda.eng.hou.compaq.com (Sorin Grama)
Subject: nutrition question
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp. - Houston, TX
Distribution: misc
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:37:50 GMT


Ok, for all you fitness gurus out there, what's the best food to eat
before and after a workout?  
I work out every other morning (6:30 - 7:30) before going to work 
so obviously I don't have the time to prepare a regular meal.  
I need to eat something quick and ready before and after the workout.

BTW, someone told me at the gym the other night that it's not
recommended to work out in the morning because the body is not yet
ready for all that stress.  Any truth in that or it's just BS?

Thanks.
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From: seb1@leia.dr.att.com (Sharon Badian)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: When to resume exercise?
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:48:30 GMT
Reply-To: seb1@vader.att.com
Organization: Bell Labs, Denver, Co.

In article <1080@pascal.einstein.eds.com>, wazir@einstein.eds.com (Deborah Wazir) writes:
|> Sorry for this simplistic question, but I'm not sure what to do.
|> 
|> I'm just getting over a bad cold and sore throat.  I stopped aerobic exercise
|> for a week and my sore throat is gone, but I'm still coughing a lot.  So should
|> I hold off longer or am I just being a wimp, as my husband claims?

You start again when you feel like you can. Just don't confuse "I don't feel
well" with "I don't feel like it."

|> I had a baby 3 months ago and I need to lose about 30lbs of "baby fat", so I
|> want to exercise; I just don't want to get sick again.  It seems like every
|> time I start an exercise program I get sick or injured, and my husband thinks I
|> just use that as an excuse.  So, if I'm only going to be *uncomfortable*, I
|> don't mind starting the aerobics back up.

Are you doing high-impact aerobics? Did you do it before you got pregnant?
Certainly you didn't do it in your last trimester! Maybe you should try
some mellower exercise to work back into it. Sounds like maybe you are
pushing yourself too hard if you get sick or injured every time you start
up. Try fast walking, or just plain walking to start. Low-impact, good
exercise, you can do it almost everywhere and it shouldn't wear out your
body too much. You may need to switch to something a little more strenuous
(unless you really do walk fast) to get rid of all that weight, but you
can start on something less abusive.

-- 
Sharon Badian
seb1@druhi.att.com
From: SSDC2@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (J Green)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Inner and Lower Pec Workout
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:53:44 GMT

>From: yyz@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (donald.w.coons)
>Subject: Inner and Lower Pec Workout
>
>Does anyone have any good exercises to really hit the lower and inner pectoral
>region.

To hit the lower pecs, try decline bench press (barbell or dumbell)!
To hit the inner pecs, try pec deck and/or cable crossovers.

>I have thought about adding pullovers to this routine, but haven't yet. I work
>arms the same night I do chest, so any advise on this is also welcomed.

Advice: do arms *after* chest! :-)
On a more serious note, if you decide to try pullovers, be careful and use
proper technique... pullovers create an angle that make shoulder muscles
more easily injured.

Janice
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From: jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: My aerobics teacher can't follow the music
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:20:55 GMT
Reply-To: jreece@sousa.intel.com
Organization: Intel - Information Technologies

In article <1992Apr8.174446.11411@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, ...@cs.utexas.edu:ibmaus!auschs!YOURCOMPUTER.austin.ibm.com!YOURLOGIN writes...
 
>Got a little problem w/ my aerobics teacher
 
>she's great and all that, but quite often she doesn't follow the beat &
>goes too fast or too slow

>this bothers the hell out of me and i usually ignore her and stay with the
>music even thought the whole class is going w/ the instructor

A dance-exercise instructor who can't stay on the beat?  That's more
than a little problem.  Are you sure it's her and not you? :-)
 
>am i stubborn or rude for doing this? 

It's OK as long as you observe the cardinal rule of all dance, martial 
arts, and exercise classes:  Make sure you're always moving in the 
same general direction at about the same general time as everybody else.


-- 

John Reece			
Intel spokesman?  Not!
From: jpeach@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Calories burned while thinking
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:30:18 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <92103.111526GU7@psuvm.psu.edu>, GU7@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> I've read and seen posted here and in other groups information
> about the amount of calories burned during various physical
> activities.  However, no mention is ever made of the number of
> calories burned while thinking.  I'm not talking about sitting
> on the couch thinking, I'm talking high-powered,hard-work,geez-my-
> head-hurts-when-I'm-done thinking.  I'm finishing a 1.5 year long
> research project and writing the final report.  Man, this is tough
> work.  Maybe not up there with big time physical workouts, but I'm
> tired, hungery and basically spent at the end of a LONG day.
> Does anyone know how many calories are spent thinking.  I guess we'll
> have to break it down to different types of thinking, like
>    -thinking about vacation
>    -thinking about working out
>    -thinking about finishing a report thats due in 3 days while
>     posting ridiculous questions
>    -thinking about getting off the couch for more chips and beer.
> I would think that calories burned would vary for these types of
> thinking.  Anyone have any ideas about the rankings of different
> types of thinking vs. calories burned?
> 

I do not think that it is a matter of the number of calories burned but 
by the mental fatique (different then physical fatigue)  I read somewhere
that your brain only kicks out the power of one peanut in the period of a
year when it is thinking (this does not include the energy for normal
metabolism). 
 
 
///MiStEr pEaCh\\\
From: lkoh@elman.austin.ibm.com (Lisa Koh;Austin)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Popping my joints
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:03:25 GMT
Reply-To: ...@cs.utexas.edu:ibmaus!auschs!elman.austin.ibm.com!lkoh
Organization: IBM Austin, TX

Could someone in the know please tell me once and for all what the
consequences are for popping my joints?  I'm twenty years old
and have been popping my fingers, ankles, back, shoulders, toes, 
knees, hips, ...well, you get the idea... ever since i was little...
will i suffer in the end for this?  does this really make the
joints & knuckles bigger?  how can i stop?  does it dry up the 
synovial fluids or something like that?

thanks in advance,

Lisa Koh
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From: jpeach@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Let's Talk Protein
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:08:21 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <762@jgaltstl.UUCP>, terry@jgaltstl.UUCP (terry linhardt) writes:
> In article <1992Apr1.122456.2054@stat.appstate.edu>, grs02502@stat.appstate.edu writes:
>> In article <756@jgaltstl.UUCP>, terry@jgaltstl.UUCP (terry linhardt) writes:> In article <1992Mar30.210245.2041@stat.appstate.edu>, grs02502@stat.appstate.edu writes:> 
> 
> + Back to the point of protein need.  I feel
> + from other studies that I have seen that endurance athletes have higher
> + **NEEDS** for protein than bodybuilders.  Bodybuilders do however "appear" to
> + make better gains on higher protein diet.  For the average person though, I do
> + agree with your position.  However, if the average person is engaging in a
> + large amount of endurance activities, then I believe a protein need closer to
> + 1.5-1.7 grams per kg of body weight would be in order.
> 
> I find your comments about people who engage in endurance activities
> needing more protein (as opposed to those engaged in strength 
> activities) very interesting. I, for one, would appreciate any
> elaboration on the subject. (As you may have guessed, I am 
> primarily engaged in endurance events). :-)
> -- 
>   Terry Linhardt                uunet!jgaltstl!terry                  
>                                 terry%jgaltstl.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu  
>                                 terry%jgaltstl.uucp@uunet.uu.net     

Physiologically this makes a lot of sense.  When the body becomes depleted
of charbohydrates, they are replaced by glyconeogensis of protein into
glucose, thus there would be a higher requirement for protein, unless
carbohydrates are replaced during of just after exercise. 
 
 
///MiStEr pEaCh\\\
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: dsm@ctt.bellcore.com (David Miller)
Subject: Back exercises???
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 22:58:53 GMT


>I have occasionally had problems with my upper back - most
>probably a muscle sprain or something.  It has always happened
>when I wake up in the morning

I was just about to post on this topic when I saw your message.
My question is also about exercises to strengthen back muscles, but I
may have some advice for you...

A couple of weeks ago I was playing basketball, and while standing
perfectly still in-between games, I got this intense pain/stiffness in
my mid to upper back.  I've been seeing a Chiropracter for two weeks
now, and it seems to have helped.  He explained to me that the problem
was a pinched nerve due to sections of my spine being slightly out of
place (and of course he said he would fix it).  I must say, however,
that the next day after seeing him the first time, my back improved
markedly, and it is mostly pain free now.  Of course, he's still not
letting me go back to playing sports and working out, which is
extremely frustrating!!! 

He told me that the muscles in the back are needed to help re-align
the spine, and keep the shoulders back in the correct position (I'm
slightly round-shouldered which he says is worsened by the fact that
my chest muscles are tighter and stronger than my back muscles...)

Anybody know any exercises and/or stretches which will work the
muscles in the mid to upper back???  I've done lower back routines,
and I've done lots of rows and lat pulldowns, but I don't know of any
exercises which will specifically work the muscles in the back that I
need to...

Any help at all would be appreciated,
Dave.

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From: danbrown@.dpw.com (Daniel Brown)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Help
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:54:37 GMT
Reply-To: danbrown@mis1.UUCP (Daniel Brown)
Distribution: usa


Hello,

     This is my first time posting on this newsgroup,
I would like a little information, if anyone here can
please help me, I'll greatly appreciate it.
     Well here is my problem I have these ugly stretch
marks and I would like to get rid of them if anyone
out there know how I can do this please e-mail me.

	  Thank You,

	  Daniel
From: jdriver@netlink.cts.com (John Driver)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: re: Swimming and Suits
Date: 15 Apr 92 03:47:09 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA


ah238@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Zupko) writes:
> For those that swim out there do you find it comftable with a bikini or
> boxer to swim?

        Boxers are by far more comfortable than Speedo type swimsuits.  When 
I first started wearing them I couldn't believe how tight they were and 
jumped in the water without tying them and promptly lost them.  Anyway, if 
you are just swimming for fitness and not competing, just wear boxers, you 
will get a better workout with the extra drag anyway.  Of course, once you 
do switch to Speedos (say if you decide to compete) the streamlined feeling 
is cool and it will feel like you are gliding through the water.


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From: brian@odin.scs.uiuc.edu (Brian Eugene Ackerson)
Subject: Re: Re: (Vascularity and Shoulders)
Organization: School of Chemical Sciences Univ. of Illinois, Urbana IL
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:54:46 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.000413.24209@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu> cockrill@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Jeremy Cockrill) writes:
>Howdy, everyone:
>
>   1.  Why the more I work out, the more vascular I get?  I know I'm getting
>       leaner which reveals more veins, but my vein size has also seemed to
>       be increasing also.  (I don't mind too much, but I am concerned some-
>       what as some people find the veins unattractive.)  
>
>   2.  The other day in the gym the incline bench for dumbbells was being used
>       so I decided to do inclines on the smith machine.  This was my first
>       time to do inclines with a Olympic bar (as opposed to dumbbells), and
>       I was surprised to discover that with every rep my right shoulder would
>       "pop."  (The pop was more felt than heard, but It was still           
>       discomforting -- not that it hurt.)   I have never experienced an 
>       injury of any kind that may have caused the popping, and I wasn't using
>       anywhere near my limit for the lift.  Could it be that my bone structure
>       doesn't has something to do with the noise?  (I never have problems with
>       dumbbells.  Also, I decided to go ahead and wait for the incline bench
>       and did incline presses with dumbbells without incidence.)

     In response to question 1, my opinion is probably the obvious
inference.  A larger and more extensive vascular system would be
advantageous to meet the increased demands of the body.  Even if this is
the case, you could not use this explanantion for the extensive vascularity
of some ectomorphs who don`t exercise.
     As for question 2, I find that shoulders have to be treated carefully
(I am speaking for myself and of others in my gym).  The amount of
noise/popping that my shoulders makes has a lot to do with the exercise and
my positioning.  Try to follow the "natural" movement of the exercise, and
concentrate on which muscles are actually involved in the movement.  I have
to concentrate on dumbbell raises (frontal and lateral), so that my
shoulders don`t pop.  I find that on a new exercise it may take months
before I am comfortable with a movement.  I would suggest experimenting a
little with the different positioning aspects.
     I like the feel of a behind-the-neck press on a Smith machine, but on
most other shoulder exercises I find that dumbbells give the best feel.
Again, this is because the dumbbells can follow your natural movements as
opposed to a restrictive machine.

                                       Brian Ackerson
                                       brian@odin.scs.uiuc.edu
From: gossain@uk.tele.nokia.fi (Sanjiv Gossain)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: need info on depression & lack of outside exercise
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:07:20 GMT
Organization: Nokia Group


In article <92096.160234IA00078@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IA00078@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Robert Cryan Jr.) writes:



>   I agree that if you were exercising and stopped for some reason it can
>   cause depression.  I started lifting in at 17 and by 19 I was in the U.S.
>   Marines when I got out, at 23, after four years of living in the gym I
>   stopped.  I started college and either didn't have the time or the money
>   to continue.  No matter how I did in school I felt like I was missing
>   something.  I'm 26 and have been back lifting for only five weeks but it
>   has made a big difference.  I feel better about my self even if I'm not
>   as strong or look as good as I did 3 years ago.

Agreed. I travel a fair bit in my current job and when I do go abroad
[usually for a week at a time] I find that I do not get the chance to
exercise and therefore I found myself getting depressed. Getting back to exercise
was great as I felt really better. It wasn't the travel as I find when I 
do not get the chance to exercise here because I am busy..I experience the
same symptoms.

>   As for the flame... I don't think it would be necessary.  This is a valid
>   topic.  As exercise enthusiasts we should think about how exercise has
>   changed our minds, moods, personalities, and outlook on life.  For me it
>   has been for the better.  If exercise is something emotionally fulfiling
>   then the lack of it might not be beneficial.

Too right!


Sanjiv Gossain
Nokia Telecommunications
gossain@uk.tele.nokia.fi
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From: ss8f@csissun5.ee.Virginia.EDU ()
Subject: Grams of Carbs
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 12:34:42 GMT

Hi,

   I keep reading about how many grams of protein a bodybuilder should
   eat but never any talk about grams of carbs. Why is that? Are carbs
   measured only by the calories? I eat a lot of pasta before a workout
   but am never sure if I have had enough (in terms of grams or cals).
   Is there a standard accepted measure like the one for protein?

   thanks,
   Sanjay
From: silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Steroid effects
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:38:15 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <1992Apr15.131149.24105@doug.cae.wisc.edu> wittmann@engr.wisc.edu (art wittmann) writes:

>Seems lots of bodybuilders that admit to using roid's claim to do so
>to inhibit the catabolism phase of tissue regeneration.  In fact, if 
>you read some of the latest hype on Met-Rx (claims to inhibit catabolism
>without anabolic effects), they claim that inhibiting catabolism is
>major good done by 'roids.  Any truth to this?  Any guess as to whether
>Met-Rx can accomplish what it's claimed to do?  (I doubt it)

Well, Bill Phillips, the owner of Mile High Publishing is pushing this product,
Met-Rx.  He makes some very good points about steroids having anti-catabolic
properties rather than anabolic properties.  This is an interesting point of
view because it's saying that steroids may actually be inhibiting cortisol
which inhibits nitrogen retention.  As you workout, your cortisol levels
increase.  This inhibits nitrogen retention in the muscles (something you
don't want), but Bill is saying that steroids may be blocking the cortisol
to an extent.

This theory is the basis of the drug Clenbuterol which is a beta-agonist (sp?).
It is usually used by people that suffer from asthma.  Clenbuterol is
considered an anti-catabolic agent because it is thought to block the breakdown
of proteins.

>They point to poor gain by the use of GH without some sort of catabolism
>inhibitor as proof that stopping catabolism is what's important, not the
>anabolic effect.

You can see all of this talk in the latest MuscleMag International.

							-Adam

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From: scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com (P Scannell)
Subject: Re: most efficient use of gym time
Reply-To: P.Scannell@bull.com
Organization: Bull HN, Worldwide Information Systems, Billerica, Mass., USA
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:48:50
	<MARKF.92Apr9141529@montreux.ai.mit.edu>

In article <MARKF.92Apr9141529@montreux.ai.mit.edu> markf@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Mark Friedman) writes:

   For strength/mass I would first suggest Squats and Bench Presses. They

   Secondly, I would suggest some back exercise and some quadriceps
   exercise.

I think you meant leg biceps (or whatever the latin word is) -- Squats
work the quads plenty.

   Let me also give a qualified plug here for Nautilus type machines. I
   think that they are excellent machines for doing isolation exercises

For making best use of limited time, I would argue against isolation
exercises (unless some body part is lagging far behind, in which case
the Nautilus machines do seem to be excellent.)  If you do isolation
exercises for the upper arms, for instance, you suddenly have
to spend that much more time doing separate forearm work.
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From: kardaras@lischer.ecn.purdue.edu (George S Kardaras)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Life Circuit
Date: 13 Apr 92 04:35:44 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

Hello,

Has anyone tried the new fitness/body-building machines 
that make up the "Life Circuit"? (I am not 100% sure this
is the exact name, but this is what they are called at the
Recreational Center of Purdue).

I'd like to know the opinions others who tried them.

Thanks in advance,

George S. Kardaras
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: rmuller@fremont.hampshire.edu (Richard Muller)
Subject: Calves (was Re: Lat pulldowns (was Re: Average Lifting Ability ))
Organization: Hampshire College, Amherst, MA
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 23:56:04 GMT

clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long) writes:
> Daniel Mocsny writes:
>
>> Or maybe he is that strong. Some people have one anomalously strong 
>> lift which they can do better than anything else. For me, it's calves. 
>
>How big are your calves?

I'm wondering if calves aren't one of the parts where strength and
size may not be very tightly related.  Although I wouldn't make the same
claim Dan does about being able to go set-for-set with the big guys,
calf exercises are one of the few where I regularly add weight to a
full stack.  My calves measure about 15" ( a little more right now, but
it's only an hour after a hard leg workout) which isn't particularly
massive, even on my 5'10" 165# frame.

I've seen MUCH bigger guys working hard with lighter weight; not so
(or not so often) with large-muscle exercises like squats, for
example.  [I know, I know, I shouldn't be paying _any_ attention to the
weight other people are lifting. Just immature, I guess... ;)  ]

 


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Hampshire College, Amherst MA 01002 USA
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