From: n5ppm264 (Charlie Board)
Subject: Re: The sin of shaving? (was Homosexuals anywhere...)
Organization: bnr
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:52:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.145352.4928@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, lipscomb@lonestar.utsa.edu (David S. Lipscomb) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Jul29.134833.28005@brtph560.bnr.ca> n5ppm264 (Charlie Board) writes:
> >In article <jWcqr*5h1@bkhouse.cts.com>, nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com (Norman Kraft) writes:
> >>
> >
> >> This is one of the fun parts of the Old Testament. Those who site it
> >> as support for anti-homosexual arguments often are being *very* selective
> >> about what they choose to read. There are few things more fascinating
> >> than someone who says they read the Bible "literally", and find it
> >> "inerrant in every word", yet ignore most of Leviticus and accuse others
> >> of being "cafeteria Christians". I'll tell you what, folks: we all
> >> so some shopping.
> >>
> >> Some examples from Leviticus 19: (Jerusalem Bible)
> the new testement fulfilled the old testement.  therefore things that deal
> with judism are now void. for example we dont have to peform animal sacrifices.
> so using the old testement to dictate what a person should do is ludicrous
> ***flame on***
> >
> >[Examples of laws Christians conveniently ignore deleted]
> >And let's not forget Numbers 5:12-31, where god not only approves of but
> he does not tell people to perform abortions. 

  No..the priest prepares an abortificient, the woman drinks it, abortion done.
No more God there than in the case where a French drug company makes a pill,
the woman takes it and presto. In both cases a HUMAN makes an abortificient
and another HUMAN ingests it.

> he does the aborting himself
> since God is the only one who has the right to take an innocent life.

a LITERAL reading here shows that God has no moral aversion to induced
miscarraige (=abortion). There are other passages in the Bible that show
that God does not consider a fetus to be an innocent life.

> improperly using the bible is a very evil thing to do.  

***Call me evil,'eh FLAME ON*****
Actually, my personal view is that *any* use of the bible is an evil thing,
but since millions of fundies insist on using this fairytale to ram
 their stupid immoral worldview into laws that limit *my* freedom, the least
they can do is get their own fairytale consistent. 
****I feel much better now, FLAME OFF******

Note that: 
   a) NOWHERE in this passage is their ANY HINT that God disapproves of 
      abortion!
and
   b) NOWHERE ELSE in the Bible is their ANY direct reference to abortion!

So how in the world did so many millions of people become so CERTAIN that
the Bible says otherwise that they're willing to trample liberty, and kill
and maim over it?!?! 

> he is the only one
> who has the right to abort. we are his creations and he can do what ever he
> wants to do with us.  but we hav no right to take another life that has done
> nothing to deserve it.
> 
> >COMMANDS that abortions be performed on women suspected of adultery. This
> >is the ONLY place the Bible directly addresses the subject of abortion...
> >have you ever heard a fundie anti-choice preacher address it?
> >>
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