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From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Lee Kwan Yew Urges Ramos to be Firm
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:23:07 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	MANILA, Philippines (UPI) -- Lee Kuan Yew, Singapore's former prime
minister, said Wednesday Philippine President Fidel Ramos needed to
exercise firm control because there was no proof American-style
democracy would lead the country toward prosperity.
	Lee, addressing an international business conference, said Ramos must
rule with a strong hand in order to make bold reforms needed to spur the
country's dormant economy. Those reforms, according to Lee, included
opening the economy to foreign investments, tearing down monopolies,
restoring law and order and improving the country's infrastructure.
	The 69-year-old Lee, who was Singapore's prime minister for 31 years
and is now a senior minister, criticized Philippine elections during the
20-year regime of ousted dictator Ferdinand Marcos as ``politics enjoyed
for its own sake.''
	``If the Ramos administration can make ordinary Filipinos understand
that politics is not simply singing, fiestas and giveaways, but ...
about their lives, jobs, wages, homes, schools and hospitals, then the
situation can change dramatically,'' he said.
	``There is absolutely no assurance that the American-style
Constitution will produce wealth for the Philippines as it has for
America,'' he added. ``Filipinos have no empty, wealthy continent to
make them rich. They have a densely populated archipelago with little
oil, gas or other valuable natural resources.''
	Lee said the separation of powers among the executive, legislative
and judicial branches has often paralyzed government decision-making.
	He added Singapore and the industrialized nations of South Korea,
Taiwan and Hong Kong could not have achieved progress under a political
system ``where gridlock on every major issue is a way of life.''
	Lee, who is credited with master-minding the island-nation's economic
revival, said the Philippine Congress must give way to the president on
hard economic decisions.
	He warned that if Ramos wasted the next six years of his
administration, the Philippines could be overtaken by Vietnam's
expanding economy.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: mbernar@erenj.com (Marcelino Bernardo)
Subject: Re: Phil DJ Rene Sta. Cruz Challenges Stern, Hall to Duel
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: Exxon Research & Engineering, Co.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:44:53 GMT

In article <-181192111717@microlab6.med.upenn.edu>, news@netnews.upenn.edu
(USENET News System) wrote:
> 
> 
> 	MANILA, Philippines (UPI) -- A Philippine broadcaster Wednesday
> challenged TV talk-show host Arsenio Hall and American radio ``shock
> jock'' Howard Stern to a duel over alleged anti-Filipino remarks he
> claims both recently made.
> 	``I'm challenging you to a duel any time, any place,'' Radio DZXL
> announcer Rene Santa Cruz said over the air. ``You can choose the type
> of fight you want.''

Hmm.  It sounds like a publicity gimmick to me.

> 	Santa Cruz added that his employer, Radio Mindanao Network, had
> offered to pay his way to ``any place in the world'' if either U.S.
> personality accepted his challenge.

This confirms my suspicion.

> 	The Philippine announcer accused Hall of making anti-Filipino remarks
> during an unspecified TV show, while Stern allegedly made racist remarks
> in September on his nationally sydicated radio talk show, which
> originates in New York.
> 	Stern's reputed comments have sparked a firestorm of protests in the
> Philippines ever since word of them first broke.
> 	The ``shock jock'' allegedly called Filipinos ``cheaters'' when
> discussing a September decision to strip a Philippine Little League team
> of its 1992 international World Series title because of reputed rules
> infractions.
> 	While discussing the scandal, Stern also allegedly said Filipinos 
> ``sell their daughters for sex.''
> 	The remarks prompted a formal diplomatic protest from the Philippines
> to the U.S. State Department, while Filipino-Americans picketed Stern's

What is the U.S. State Department supposed to do about Howard Stern?

> New York radio station and filed a $65 million lawsuit against him.

Yeah sure.

So, a Philippine baseball team cheats, gets caught, and gets a hero's
coming home welcome.  Now, the Philippine government doesn't want to be
called
cheaters.  Well, if that is so, then why do they glorify cheaters?  IMHO, 
the government should be appologizing to the rest of the world for
this incidence and not reward those who commited this embarassing act.

Marcelino Bernardo
mbernar@erenj.com
#Opinions expressed here are my own.#
From: eus10@harimanok.amdahl.com (Jun Soriano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Did you know?
Date: 17 Nov 92 02:49:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.235144.11433@odin.corp.sgi.com>, aimee@wpd.sgi.com (Aimee Manosa) writes:

|> 
|> My dad also mentioned that not only do folks use this ice rink a lot,
|> but they get dressed for it, too!!!  Sweater, scarf and all... :-)
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
       mukhang humahaba na ang listahan natin ........... sa stereotypes.            


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From: pisay92@athena.mit.edu (Marlon R. Abayan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Did you know?
Date: 15 Nov 92 18:36:30 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Yes, the Philippines did win something in the Olympics -- a bronze in boxing.
It was really a heartbreaker since people were really expecting at least another
boxing gold, which we got the last time in Seoul.  The boxing team was really
expected to do good since they were better trained and the coaches thought they
were better than 1984's team.  

Marlon
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: u9211306@cc.uow.edu.au (Elpidio S Jabonete Jr)
Subject: Re: "noli trivia"
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 02:24:29 GMT

 OKAY , LET ME TRY ...

-> 1. in the first (?) chapter, a party was held at a certain boat.  
->    name that boat !! 

		I'm confused !! 
			Bapor Tabo appears on the first
       chapter of El Filibusterismo but there is no dinner.
       In Noli Me Tangere , there is a dinner but not in a boat
       but in Don Santiago's (a.k.a Kapitan Tiago) house to 
       welcome Crisostomo who had just arrived  from Europe.

-> 2. what is the actual family name of crisostomo?

          Ibarra

-> 3. who was the lady who had a very ugly face, smoked tabako and
->    refused to acknowledge her heritage? 
          ~
	Dona Victorina ???
		
-> 4. what was the name of (3)'s husband ?

	A sweet , friendly guy called _______________ ;-}

-> 5. who was (3)'s nemesis ?

	I dunno !

-> 6. who was maria clara's real father ?

	Father Damaso Verdolangas

-> 7. what is the entire name of maria clara's "foster" father?

	Don Santiago Alba (a.k.a Kapitan Tiago )

-> 8. what were the names of sisa's children ?

	Basilio , Crispin

-> 9. who saved crisostomo from the authorities ?

	Elias
 
->10. what was the name of (9)'s girl?

	I dunno !

->bonus :  what is the full name of our national hero? 

	Jose Protacio Rizal Mercado Alonso Quintos y Realonda

		/* sounds like a genealogy */


------------------>>>> [ COOL .SIG  DELETED ] <<<< -----------------

	DID YOU KNOW THAT ......

	1. The rediscovery of the Philippines by Magellan(real name :
               Fernao de Magalhaes ; Spanish name : Fernando de
               Magallanes ) was reset to March 17, 1521 instead
               of March 16, 1521 ? 

	2. The first "mass" in the Philippines was not in Limasawa
               as previously thought . Actually , it was held in
               Masao island (situated north of Mindanao )

	3. The novel "El Filibusterismo " has a missing chapter.
               Rizal thought to have deleted a  chapter to save
               printing costs. 

	4. The famous poem "Mi Ultimo Adios "  was not hidden in an
               alcohol lamp (as most historians thought of ) but in
               a little stove.


	5. It was never proven that Lapulapu indeed killed Magellan
               in the battle at Mactan shore 


	GO PHILIPPINES !!!

	Sige ,

*******

-- 
            *******************************************************
	    * Elpidio S. Jabonete , Jr.  |  "Life is a hamburger" *
	    *   ----  o)) ((o ----       |     --Bread Baker      *
	    *******************************************************
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: ekevik@media.uio.no (Oystein Ekevik)
Subject: Lawmakers pursue Sabah claims
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: Dept. of Media & Communication
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:27:28 GMT

Quoted from Lulu Turner

18NOV92 PHILIPPINES: PHILIPPINE LAWMAKERS TELL RAMOS TO PURSUE SABAH.
      15:01 GMT [REUTR] R49211182723
 MANILA, Nov 18, Reuter - Thirty-two Philippine legislators led by the
speaker of congress urged President Fidel Ramos on Wednesday to take a
strong stand in pursuing Manila's territorial claim to Sabah, Malaysia. The
call appeared to run counter to statements by Foreign Secretary Roberto
Romulo that the administration was not keen on actively pursuing the claim,
which has strained relations between Manila and Kuala Lumpur for three
decades. The proposal was embodied in a resolution filed in the House of
Representatives by Speaker Jose de Venecia, a close ally of Ramos, and 31
other congressmen. The resolution calls for the creation of a bipartisan
legislative-executive committee to draft "the final Philippine position on
the Sabah claim, including the various modes of pursuing the claim, the
venue and schedule for implementation." "It is now time that the government
considers a firmer and stronger policy on Sabah with due regard to our
territorial integrity and national interest consistent with the
requirements of regional harmony and cooperation," the resolution adds. The
house foreign affairs committee will study the resolution and decide
whether or not to recommend it to the entire chamber for approval. "The
sentiment of the committee is to eventually pursue the claim," congressman
Jaime Lopez, its chairman, told reporters. Manila officially laid claim to
Sabah, the former British North Borneo, in 1962 saying it historically
belonged to the Filipino Sultan of Sulu. Kuala Lumpur has rejected the
claim and said the Sulu sultanate had ceded its rights to the territory.
Romulo told Malaysian officials on a visit to Kuala Lumpur in September
that the Ramos administration would not pursue the claim but could not drop
it outright without congress approval. (c) Reuters Limited
****************************
Lulu Turner
Dept of Political and Social Change
Research School of Pacific Studies
The Australian National University
GPO Box 4, Canberra ACT 2601
Tel: (06) 249 0173
Fax: (06) 257 1893
E-mail (Internet) lulu@coombs.anu.edu.au
*****************************
From: coxm@Software.Mitel.COM (Michael Cox)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Miss Asia Beauty Contest....
Date: 18 Nov 92 13:54:35 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

In article <1992Nov17.232555.22597@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> equipt@etch-eshop.Berkeley.EDU (Etcheverry Equipment Inventory) writes:
>The Following are the Winners of the Miss Asia Contest that was
[stuff deleted]
>4th Runner Up from Ceylon  ...........MISS Bitina Cia
                    ^^^^^^
That should be Sri Lanka.



-- 
Michael H. Cox      | The end of the Earth is expected in 2.3 billion years.
                    | Have you made the correct investment decisions?
Mitel Corporation   | 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: gerry@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au (Gerry Trinidad)
Subject: AIDS in the Philippines
Organization: James Cook University
Date: 24 Nov 92 05:14:49 GMT

I was reading todays daily newspaper (The Australian, nationwide
circulation, 24 Nov 1992) and there is an article on Australian
acquiring HIV infection from alledged "sex tours" in south east asia.
The article states that 38% of these cases are from the Philippines.
Thailand (which has received much publicity lately) is associated with
only 34% of the reported cases.

If this is true, then AIDS must be a significant problem in the
Philippines. 

Any comments?????
From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: US Urges Ramos to Deny Amnesty to Killers of US Troops
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:57:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: microlab.-161192135843
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	MANILA, Philippines (UPI) -- The United States has urged the
government to deny amnesty to communist rebels who killed U.S.
servicemen, President Fidel Ramos said Monday.
	The request made by U.S. Ambassador Richard Solomon could jeopardize
government efforts to end the 23-year-old communist insurgency, analysts
said.
	In a news briefing, Ramos said the proposal was being ``closely
studied'' both by the Justice Department and the National Unification
Commission, the agency tasked to formulate a peace package with the
communists, Muslim separatist groups and right-wing rebels.
	At least 10 U.S. citizens, including Col. James Rowe, were
assassinated by members of the communist armed wing, the New People's
Army, since 1987. Rowe, a counter-insurgency expert and a hero of the
Vietnam War, was killed in 1989 in suburban Quezon City.
	The other victims were ambushed outside Clark Air Base, a U.S.
facility north of Manila which was abandoned earlier this year after it
was devastated by a volcanic eruption.
	Ramos declined to comment on suggestions that the U.S. request
amounted to intervention in Philippine affairs.
	``Let's look at the merits of their proposal first before we make any
comment,'' he said.
From: aimee@neon.wpd.sgi.com (Aimee Manosa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Hi there! I'm back.
Date: 21 Nov 92 22:07:13 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Nov18.220231.2338@news.acns.nwu.edu>, flip@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Kenneth Ilio) writes:
|> Hi all.  Glad to see that this newsgroup is still very active ...

Hi, Ken!  So, what's been cooking on your side of the street?  We want one
of those famous "Ilio kuwento's"....



-- 
        ~
Aimee Manosa		aimee@wpd.sgi.com		Opinions are mine
			Silicon Graphics, Inc
From: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: know any filipino stereotypes?
Date: 15 Nov 1992 19:39:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, c164-ad@po.berkeley.edu (Martin Guerrero) says:

>In article <1992Nov14.005246.2169@engage.pko.dec.com> garces_ro@uswrsl.enet.dec.com (JRG) writes:
>>
>>	Here's another good one that my girlfriend mentioned to me.
>>	Being from a different racial background she's wondering about
>>	it. Here it goes:
>>
>>	Filipinos always have a "tabo" in their bathroom. We all know
>>	that we don't need them to take a bath right. So, Iknowyouknow
>>	whatImean. 
>>
>
>Considering the drought situation and such in some areas of the U.S., I 
>think 'tabos' might actually be practical.  
>
>What do you all think?

They would.  Unfortunately, based on some conversations I've had with
Americans, it seems that many of them value their showers and tub baths
too much to resort to the good old 'tabo'.  Not surprising--they also
express surprise at the way I refuse to throw out my used (but intact)
Ziploc bags, or the way I always turn the lights off when leaving my
room.

What can I say?  It's a wasteful country.  (No flames please!  I mean
this as a mere observation, not an insult.)

-- 
    Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., CWRU grad student & roboticist wannabee

   "Bullwinkle, that man's intimidating a referee!"    |    My boss is a 
   "Not very well.  He doesn't look like one at all."  |  Jewish carpenter.
From: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: know any filipino stereotypes?
Date: 17 Nov 1992 22:51:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, aimee@wpd.sgi.com (Aimee Manosa) says:

>In article <1e998lINNbq5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco) writes:
>
>|> Good point, Greg.  The important distinction, however, is that nobody is
>|> *required* to attend a party at a specific time.  Hence, if you arrive
>|> an hour after the party begins, you are not truly "late"--unless you agreed
>|> to arrive early to help with the preparations.  
>
>Choke. Gasp. Huh?  I don't get it.  The reason someone says, "Please join
>us at 7 pm" is because they want you to be there at 7pm.  Nothing hard to
>understand about this...it's not rocket science.  They really want you there
>at 7 pm.  And not for preparations; I think I would be considered rude if I 
>expected you to help me prepare for a party, let alone be considered unorganized!

Well, okay.  I was hasty in saying that noone is required to attend a
party at a certain time.  Admittedly, there are times when a host might
ask you to be there at 7 p.m. or so.  However, this is not a general
rule, since most guest are not at all essential for party's success.

As for asking someone to help out, I see nothing wrong with asking a
close friend or family member for a little assistance.  Sometimes it's 
useful to have a few extra hands, especially if you're short-handed. 
It's also useful to ask your friend to come on time if you're expecting 
another guest, one who would be more comfortable with said friend
around (simple human psychology).  Furthermore, if you're really
friends, then I don't see why asking for a little help would be rude-- 
especially if you really needs it and that person understands your
situation.  I've agreed to help out in this way on several occasions,
and was never offended.

At any rate, this discussion is getting sidetracked.  I do agree with
your point that far too little emphasis is put on punctuality in our
culture.
-- 
    Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., CWRU grad student & roboticist wannabee

   "Bullwinkle, that man's intimidating a referee!"    |    My boss is a 
   "Not very well.  He doesn't look like one at all."  |  Jewish carpenter.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 20 Nov 1992 09:39:56 CST
From: <U61618@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Phil DJ Rene Sta. Cruz Challenges Stern, Hall to Duel
 <mbernar-191192173246@esemac.erenj.com>




NOW THAT THE REST OF THE WORLD THINKS THAT WE ARE..........................
LOWLIFES, WHY DON'T WE JUST KIDNAP STERN,GIVE HIM TO THE NPA, WATCH THE NPA
CUT HIS BALLS ON T.V. AND FEED IT TO THE DOGS.  THEN, BUY LOTS OF SAN MIGUEL
BEER AND USED THE REST OF HIS BODY AS PULUTAN.... THAT WILL TEACH THEM NOT TO
MESS WITH US.... IF ARSENIO DOES DID SAY SOMETHING BAD ABOUT US.... WELL, LET'S
DO THE SAME THING BUT DIFFERENT PUTAHI!!!! AYOS BA????

AND TO THE PILIPINO GANGS OUT THERE:  UNITE AND BRING GLORY TO OUR RACE SO
                                      PEOPLE LIKE STERN DON'T END UP IN OUR
                                      BASURA HALF EATEN.

                ZIGAZAGIN.
From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Phil Files Diplomatic Protest over Howard Stern
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:44:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: microlab.-161192144616
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	MANILA, Philippines (UPI) -- Philippine officials Friday said they
filed a diplomatic protest with the U.S. State Department over alleged
anti-Filipino remarks made by American radio ``shock-jock'' Howard
Stern.
	On Sept. 22, Stern allegedly broadcast the offending remarks when
discussing a Little League decision to strip the Philippines of its 1992
World Series title because of alleged rules violations.
	The team, from the Philippine city of Zamboanga, reputedly violated
Little League regulations by using players from other towns, as well as
teenagers older than the league's cutoff age of 12.
	Speaking about the issue on his nationally syndicated talk show,
Stern allegedly called Filipinos ``cheaters... (who) don't know the
value of the sport or the purpose of the game.''
	He also reputedly characterized the Philippines as ``a country where
fathers sell their own daughters for sex,'' adding, ``I think they eat
their young over there.''
	In a protest letter dated Nov. 10, Manila called the remarks 
``vicious and malicious,'' and said the statements smacked of 
``prejudice and racism.''
	Philippine officials also said Stern made offensive remarks in April,
when he allegedly called Filipinos ``probably even worse than people
from France.''
	Stern was not immediately available for comment.
From: cayabyab@apache.enet.dec.com (Willie Cayabyab)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Happy Thanksgiving
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:13:31 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation



    Happy Thanksgiving sa inyung lahat...

    Saan ba ang kainan sa Thursday ? Huwag masyadong maglasing




Willie
From: 4dejesus_de@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: re: Did you know?
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:48:22 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

Yup, there is a skating rink over there in the huge SM mall.

I went over for vacation this summer, and was one of the crowd of idiots 
starin' at that monstrosity.

The only people BLESSED enough to use that thing are the rich dudes who can go 
to the States or to Hong Kong and actually learn how to skate!!!

You figure that with all the crime and all the things that the govt. has to get 
started, they waste money on a freaking ice rink in 90 degree weather .

YOU KNOW?!?!?!?!

Dominique