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From: dobo@cs.UAlberta.CA (W. Dobosiewicz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: Nazi camps
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:35:28 GMT
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada

marios@ecs.comm.mot.com (mario smarduch) writes:


>   [...] deleted
>whenever the Jewish communities were persecuted in Europe they always found
>freedom in Poland, the fact they owned like 90% of the business prior to
>WWII shows that Poland was tolerant.

>mario s.  
>   

For your information:

Republic of Poland, Statistical Yearbook 1939:
pages 103-105:
"Religion of owners of trade businesses" (read: shopowners) in 1938:

Total	437 610
Roman Catholic	190 723
(Moses religion) = Jewish	216 498
[...]
unknown	22 842

There goes your 90%.

I am sure you also wanted to know this (from same table):

Owners of shops selling alcohol:
		(this information is dedicated to Mr. Glemp)

Total	3820
R.C.	2801
Jewish	812
[...]
unknown	171

From another table (pp. 31-32), the percentage of Jewish shopowners who
had no employees (one-man shops) was 82.1%

Salutations,

W. Dobosiewicz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,alt.censorship,rec.humor.d
From: aleks@cray.com (Aleksander Mazur)
Subject: Re: Nazi Camps
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:32:36 CDT


In article <87102@netnews.upenn.edu> kkniaz@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Krzysztof W. Kniaz) writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.155538.7527@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> marios@ecs.comm.mot.com (mario smarduch) writes:
>>[...] you go and talk to some
>>people that lived prior to the WWII in Poland, Germany and other
>>European countries and who rememeber those times well. Go and ask them
>>why there was so much antisemitism[...]
>
>I suppouse, you did. Why don't you tell us then, what you found out?
>(Just in the close circle of us, compatriots)
>
>
>--
>

Well, I suppose, that it would be impolite to exclude Ted from
the circle of compatriots. And because we should keep all in
the proper perspective and order, we will hear his view how
wonderful the life was in Reich and Soviet Union before WWII.
Then others will join and share their experience. Will be quite
interesting, I hope.

Aleksander Mazur
From: gwb0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (GERALYN WOOD BARRY)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: gravestone translation request
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:18:46 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Hello,

Can someone help me with a translation of

             TU  SPOCZYWA  M.F.
                  E ROMAN
                OLENDROWICZ


This appears on the gravestone of my grandmother's father Jacob Roman
Olendrowicz, who was buried in Newark, New Jersey (USA) in 1903. In
particular, what do the letters  M.F.  and  E represent? I know that
tu spoczywa translates as "here lies" or "here rests", but what about
the other letters?

Do you know anyone with the name Olendrowicz? Is this a common last name
in Poland? Is it associated with a particular region? I think he may
have come from what was in the 1800's the province of Poznan'(probably
between Poznan' and Bydgoszcz, but I am not sure). Any help on this will be
appreciated.

Thank you,
Geralyn Wood Barry


-- 
.----* PATERSON,NJ/IRELAND *---searching---*  NEWARK,NJ/POLAND *-------.
| Carr,Cavanagh/Cavanaugh          | Frukowski,Kukla(NYC;Poznan,PO)    |
| Meahan,McKenna(also Brooklyn,NYC)| Nappruska(Poznan,PO); Renke       |
| Farrell(also Albany,NY)          | Oland/Olendrowicz; Zalewski and   |
| Harold/Harrold (Co.Tipperary,IR) | Woodkoski/Wlodkowski (Suwalki,PO) |
|also:Barry,Beggly,Bergen,Carson,Dively,Logue,Mahar,Stackhouse,Wendell |
|     Cosca,Davidson,Fratto,Lamerato/Lammirata,Maida,Pignanelli        |
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: s1137020@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (Mariusz Prokopczyk)
Subject: Re: Nazi camps
Organization: Monash University College Gippsland, Churchill, 3842, Australia
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 19:31:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.005212.29170@dgbt.doc.ca> ted@dgbt.doc.ca (Ted Grusec) writes:
>In article <dobo.715016128@swalwell> dobo@cs.UAlberta.CA (W. Dobosiewicz) writes:
>>
>>[data deleted]
>
>This is very interesting. Thank you.  Would someone like to tell us
>what the various social implications of these numbers were?

If I well remember you were just trying to spread ideas how we should
forget about our past. Not enough followers? Was is just a job?
Looks like you quickly change your views. But that just on the margin.

I quite agree. The shown data is indeed very interesting. Thank you.
I am not going yet to tell you any social implications for two reasons.
Firstly - even if I would do it, you probably would argue it anyway,
and in such interpretations are always room for arguments.
Secondly - it would take too much of my time and space to write it here.
So I leave it to yourself. I will just give you a few tips. I hope you
do not mind since you asked for help.

1. Note: %population       ~10
         %trade businesses  49.5
         %shops             82.1
         %banks & usuries   ? (it would be very helpful to have that
                                                            figure too)

2. Recall recent events in Los Angeles where anger against white man
   mostly turned against the Korean shop owners (perception that
   the owner exploits me through too high prices).

3. There were lately demonstrations in Australia (and probably in Ireland)
   against the bank in Ulster which employed only 17% of catholics whereas
   actual percentage in population was thirty something (I am not sure of
   the second digit). There must be some reason why some group of people
   feel disadvantaged I suppose.

4. In general try to divide the reasons into two segments:
   a) resistance of higher class perceiving in such situation Jewish
      activity as a threat to their wellbeing or even existence.
   b) resistance of wider society perceiving as being exploited by
      foreign minority.

5. Additional hostility are flowing from fact that Jews had tendency
   to hold closed, clan-like relations (partially due to their different
   religion) in isolation to the rest of the society (and unknown is always
   perceived as a threat).

6. Study of the last military coup in Fiji might be of help as it was
   closely related to conflict of different nationalities.

Hope it will be of help.

Please spare us any conclusions yet. If you will get rejected by s.c.j.
then I would suggest you to try alt.religious.new or similar newsgroup.
I am sure you are clever enough to find some groups for your ideas.
But please leave us alone. We most certainly desire the wide participation
but not of the sort you offered so far. I hope that as a person looking
for perfect solutions you will perfectly understand my suggestions.

Mariusz

Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: tony2@prefect.uucp (21131-gozdz)
Subject: Re: Polack joke
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 21:05:42 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.183834.20590@morrow.stanford.edu> berne@nova1.stanford.edu (Jean-Francois Berne) writes:
                           [stuff deleted]
>
>Among all the polish jokes I read in this news groups, ALL of them are employed
>in France by replacing "polish" by "belgium".
>JF

I wouldn't want to nitpick, but didn't we all expatriates
laugh at those same jokes in Poland, although the subject 
usually lived east of the Don... %-)

My comment doesn't imply that I enjoy being told "Polish jokes"
(it almost never happens), but my guess is that _very_
few of us back then felt upset, or tried to understand
the feelings of the other side. Now we know how much it may hurt.  

Ton(io/y)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: marios@ecs.comm.mot.com (mario smarduch)
Subject: Re: Nazi Camps
Organization: trunking_fixed
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:55:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.051741.9508@dgbt.doc.ca> ted@dgbt.doc.ca (Ted Grusec) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.122858.24592@walter.cray.com> aleks@cray.com (Aleksander Mazur) writes:
>>
>>In article <1992Aug24.235836.847@dgbt.doc.ca> ted@dgbt.doc.ca (Ted Grusec) writes:
>>
>>>
>>>Forgiving implies a continued guilt. One way to read world war II is
>>>that is showed what highly educated humans are capable of doing to
>>>others.  To insist on continued guilt is the further propagation of
>>>the very racism that underlay naziism.  One group of racists (the
>>>Germans and their allies) did their evil deed on other groups of
>>>racists.
>>
>>Ted, I think it explains precisely, why you are in such a passionate
>>love with ethnic jokes. Further explanation is not necessary. I would
>>be only interested, which fellow-countrymen organization you
>>belong to.
>
>"Passionate" is in the eye of the beholder.  I don't belong to any
>"fellow-countrymen" organizations.  My parents happened to have been
>Poles and I learned much about Polish culture that was truly
>wonderful. I also learned much that was not so wonderful, such as the
>deep anti-semitism that was also part of that culture. I learned that
>blind cultural chauvinism was a human error shared by many cultures,
>and that this error was an important component underlying wars in
>general, certainly including ww II.
>
>I try to embrace those elements of various cultures that seem to be
>positive and to reject those that are actually or potentially
>destructive.  This is made easier, perhaps, by being a Canadian, which
>has exposed me to a varied multitude of cultures, closely
>intertwined.
>
>There is no cultural group that is not entirely capable of inflicting
>genocide on other groups out of blind chauvinism.  That, it seems to
>me, should be the way ww II is dealt with historically, not in terms
>of guilt and blame, but in terms of the human condition.  
>-- 
>==========================================================================
>Ted Grusec    Communications Research Centre    (Govt. of Canada, DOC)
> 3701 Carling Ave., Ottawa, Ont.K2H 8S2, CANADA  Internet: ted@dgbt.doc.ca
>  Compuserve: 73607,1576  (613) 998 2762   Fax (613) 993 8657

My, my, what philosopher we have here, I would propose to you that,
instead of all this "eye of the beholder" crap and "try to imbrace
those elements of various cultures" terms, you go and talk to some
people that lived prior to the WWII in Poland, Germany and other
European countries and who rememeber those times well. Go and ask them
why there was so much antisemitism, you might found out more then
just by reading some bullshit sensored documentation.  

>I hope we
>are moving toward the kind of understanding which obviates blind
>cultural chauvinism.  I don't think we have progressed very far down
>that path as I observe contemporary events.>

Looks like John Lennon has come back to life.


So long, philosopher !!!!! 



Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: aleks@cray.com (Aleksander Mazur)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: Nazi camps
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:43:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: walter.1992Aug28.114350.24170


In article <dobo.715016128@swalwell> dobo@cs.UAlberta.CA (W. Dobosiewicz) writes:
>marios@ecs.comm.mot.com (mario smarduch) writes:
>
>
>>   [...] deleted
>>whenever the Jewish communities were persecuted in Europe they always found
>>freedom in Poland, the fact they owned like 90% of the business prior to
>>WWII shows that Poland was tolerant.
>
>>mario s.  
>>   
>
>For your information:
>
>Republic of Poland, Statistical Yearbook 1939:
>pages 103-105:
>"Religion of owners of trade businesses" (read: shopowners) in 1938:
>
>Total	437 610
>Roman Catholic	190 723
>(Moses religion) = Jewish	216 498
>[...]
>unknown	22 842
>
>There goes your 90%.

I wouldn't like to suggest anything, but simply claryfing - does that
Yearbook say, that Jewish population was 10 % of total ? Could you 
bring us some data about that population because I heard already
very strange numbers from people who apparently wanted to politicize the
issue. Also that statement "There goes your 90%" does not say much
as I understood some businesses were 90% in Jewish hands, what wouldn't
be surprising to me (but do not jump to any conclusion, I am not
suggesting anything - just for clarification).

>
>I am sure you also wanted to know this (from same table):
>
>Owners of shops selling alcohol:
>		(this information is dedicated to Mr. Glemp)

Could you tell us, why you dedicate that info to Mr. Glemp ?
Do I hear any prejudice here ? Even if not, I think it is worth
to clarify also.

>
>Salutations,
>
>W. Dobosiewicz

Same,

Aleksander Mazur
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: aleks@cray.com (Aleksander Mazur)
Subject: Re: Nazi camps
Organization: Cray Research Inc
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:11:22 CDT

In article <1992Aug28.201020.8866@sarah.albany.edu> pawel@tethys.ph.albany.edu writes:

>It is well known that in pre-IIWW Poland existed "Christian" labor
>or union organizations explilictly excluding Jews from their ranks
>(for example lawyers).  This of course limited the job opportunities
>for "non-Cristian" Polish citiziens.  It is interesting to compare
>this situation to the legal situation in US even AFTER IIWW.  Jews
>were excluded from many universities on similar basis (see A.Dershovitz's
>book Chutzpa for elaboration).
>

I think that example of lawyers is a good one but showing something
just opposite - but of course that was the problem and source of
irritation. If we are talking about unions, especially in "free"
trades, Jews belonged to separate, Jewish unions, and Christians
belonged to Christian ones. Both usually competed and it was
more and more difficult to practice a profession. I would really
like to see statistics - people that practiced law before WWII
that I talked to maintain, that in that area it was far away
disproportionate employment. maybe we can see some statistics
especially in that area. That would be much more interesting that
number of private shops, I suppose.

Aleksander Mazur
From: kkniaz@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Krzysztof W. Kniaz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: Nazi Camps
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:34:56 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Aug26.155538.7527@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> marios@ecs.comm.mot.com (mario smarduch) writes:
>[...] you go and talk to some
>people that lived prior to the WWII in Poland, Germany and other
>European countries and who rememeber those times well. Go and ask them
>why there was so much antisemitism[...]

I suppouse, you did. Why don't you tell us then, what you found out?
(Just in the close circle of us, compatriots)


--

Krzysztof Kniaz, University of Pennsylvania | If you can't learn  
Lab for Research on the Structure of Matter | to do it well,
Philadelphia, PA, 19104, USA                | learn to enjoy doing it badly.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.polish:2159 alt.censorship:7208 rec.humor:27206
From: pawel@tethys.ph.albany.edu
Subject: Re: To Mariusz
Reply-To: pawel@tethys.ph.albany.edu
Organization: SUNYA School of Public Health, Albany, NY
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 15:03:42 GMT

In article <matthew.715526524@mugga>, matthew@stats.mu.oz.au (Maciek Blasikiewicz) writes:
>kkniaz@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Krzysztof W. Kniaz) writes:
>
>Prosze napisz wiecej, albo ktos inny kto wie dobrze, co sie naprawde
>stalo w 1968. Ja wiem tylko tyle co napisal N.Davies w swej ksiazce,
>czyli niewiele.
>
>>toczyla sie wokol zabitych Zydow. A oni z chwila zbiorowej smierci
>>w komorach gazowych, przestali byc indywidualnymi Polakami (jesli sie
>>takowymi czuli) , stali sie nastepnymi Zydami-ofiarami holokaustu.
>>Kropka. Przykro mi. Tak ich pamieta historia. Proby "spolonizowania"
>
>Co? Jezeli ktos sie czuje Polakiem, to jakim prawem ktokolwiek go
>posmiertnie przemalowywuje na cos innego!? To jest godny potepienia
>zwykly brak szacunku dla umarlego, bo przeciez on juz nie moze sie temu
>przeciwstawic! Poza tym, czy takie posmiertne przeklasyfikowywanie
>Polakow zydowskiego pochodzenia na Zydow, gdy czuli sie oni Polakami a
>nie Zydami, nie jest zupelnie po mysli Hitlerowcow (czyli: pochodzi od
>Zydow, to zawsze Zyd)? Czy to nie jest rasizm?
>
>
>MB

  Chcialbym Ci zwrocic uwage, ze ton Twojego listu nie jest calkiem
odpowiedni.  Nie sadze, zeby Twoja intencja bylo obrazanie kogokolwiek,
wiec radze Ci czytac uwaznie swoje teksty przed wyslaniem.

  Poza wszystkim innym skoro z takim zapalem dyskutujesz z cala
pewnoscia nie zaszkodziloby Ci poglebienie wiedzy.  Zadziwiajace
jest, ze wiedza mlodego Polaka o wlsnej, powojennej historii
sprowadza sie do lektury Davisa.
                         
                                            P.Penczek
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: zbig@wariat.org (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik)
Subject: Re: inet sites in poland?
Followup-To: soc.culture.polish
Reply-To: zbig@wariat.org (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik)
Organization: Akademia Pana Kleksa, Public Access Uni* Site
Distribution: soc
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 10:49:46 GMT

As quoted from <1992Aug13.1669.2310@execnet> by "al sorhaindo" <al.sorhaindo@execnet.com>:

+---------------
> Hello,
> 
> 
> Are there any universities in Poland connected to Internet?
> 
> I have mostly seen messages from "Polonia" here.
> 
> I am particularly interested in contacting the Merchant Marine
> academies at Gdynia, and Szcecin by email.
> 

Al, 
I am exchanging e-mail messages with my friends at Gdansk University.
Their machine name is 

halina.univ.gda.pl


and as far as i can read headers, they are on Internet.....


> 
>                                        Thank you,
> 
>                                        Al Sorhaindo
>     (Maybe the 1st American to sale on Dar Mlodziezy for as long as
>       two weeks-1984.)
> --
> Executive Network Information System  (914) 667-4567
> International ILink Host

Good luck !

_zjt

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: marios@ecs.comm.mot.com (mario smarduch)
Subject: Re: Antisemitism in Poland.
Organization: trunking_fixed
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:24:24 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.075323.4031@fuw.edu.pl> michals@fuw.edu.pl (Michal Szleper) writes:
>Mario Smarduch writes:
>
>>I just came back from Poland ( I was there for 3 weeks), there is no antisemitism
>>whatsovever in Poland, with the exception of few jokes here and there. As a 
>>matter of fact some of the key people in the Polish governemnt are of Jewish
>                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>descent
> ^^^^^^^
>Sorry Mario, but this you must have heard during some electioneering
>campaign by some political opposition parties (which I will not mention).
>Unfortunately *this* exactly proves the existence of antisemitism
>in Poland.
>

References shall follow, I'll post them later. The fact is there is so
much confusion in Poland, that the least informed are the ones living in
Poland.                                               

Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: matthew@.cs.mu.oz (Maciek Blasikiewicz)
Subject: Re: Nazi camps
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 08:22:27 GMT

pindor@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Andrzej Pindor) writes:

>In article <matthew.715399406@mugga> matthew@stats.mu.oz.au (Maciek Blasikiewicz) writes:
>>
>>Czyli, honorne dawanie odporu jest bee, a nadstawianie drugiego
>>policzka cacy. I w ogole, tak biblia uczy...
>>
>Nie tylko 'biblia' ale sa to nawet slowa Jezusa. Zeby nie bylo, ze wkladam
>slowa w panske usta, czy moglby Pan wyraznie napisac jaki, Pana zdaniem,
>nalezy wyciagnac wniosek z faktu, ze Jezus tak uczyl.  Skoro juz Pan uwazal
>za stosowne podac ten fakt do publicznej wiadomosci to chyba z jaks mysla,
>czy zupenie bezmyslnie?

No, Polacy to bezmyslni Katolicy, z Ciemnogrodu antysemici, no to im
lepiej biblii sluchac. Ale ja nie Katolik, to mam to wszystko gdzies.

>>MB

>Andrzej Pindor

>PS. Nauk Jezusa o 'honornym dawaniu odporu' sobie nie przypominam. Czy mozna
>spytac jaki autorytet to zaleca? Z tonu panskiej wypowiedzi gotow jestem
>wnioskowac, ze ten ktos przewyzsza w panskim umysle Jezusa, ale moze sie
>znow myle?

Jak to sie ma do tego co napisalem? Nie przypominam sobie pisania nic o
autorytetach. Przykro mnie, ze Pan wyraznie na wszystko potrzebuje
takowych.

MB
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: marios@ecs.comm.mot.com (mario smarduch)
Subject: Re: True Polish Humor
Organization: trunking_fixed
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:21:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.060426.3077@dgbt.doc.ca> ted@dgbt.doc.ca (Ted Grusec) writes:
>  mario smarduch, <marios@ecs.comm.mot.com> writes
># Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:39:05 GMT
>
># I just came back from Poland ( I was there for 3 weeks), there is
># no antisemitism whatsovever in Poland, with the exception of few
># jokes here and there.  As a matter of fact some of the key people
># in the Polish governemnt are of Jewish descent, how's that for
># antisemitism.  You should maybe inquire into the German newsgroup,
># French newsgroup, or better yet I'm sure you can find some of it
># here in the US - I would say those are the best choices for your
># paper on antisemitism with the exception of the Palastanians and
># some other Arab states. 
>
>Mario: You have put the rest of us "humourists" into full retreat.
>Now I finally know what a true Polish joke is!  Are you, by any
>chance, a standup comic, or a professional politician?
>-- 

I say what I saw, and I repeat what I heard - honost my right hand
over my heart. As to what I am well, a male, 6ft tall, 175lbs, blue
eyes, short brown hair, mustache, in good shape, fairly attractive -
at least that's what my mother says.
From: ts2a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Thomas Omar Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,rec.humor
Subject: Re: Polack joke
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:28:50 GMT
	<1992Aug24.225851.27578@smartstar.com>
Organization: Senior, Mathematics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>Why do Polish dogs have flat noses?
>From chasing parked cars.

I thought that was lawyers.

					Tom the non hacker
					Kemp in 96!
					"If patriotism is the last refuge
					of scoundrels,  Then environmentalism
					is the current refuge of totalitarians."
					Bob Jackson
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: s1137020@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (Mariusz Prokopczyk)
Subject: jak zostalem "antysemita"
Organization: Monash University College Gippsland, Churchill, 3842, Australia
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 06:26:53 GMT

No i prosze, doczekalem sie!
Jestem w pamietniku u Feldmana, tyle tylko ze
juz nie na pozolklych kartkach papieru lecz na
srebrnym laserowym dysku. Technika idzie naprzod.
Sam fakt bycia tak uwiecznionym to jeszcze nic.
Ale umieszczenie mnie obok takich slaw jak Goebbels
to juz osiagniecie. Przeciez ci mlodzi neo-nazisci
w Niemczech to pekna z zazdrosci. Oni tyle wysilku
wkladaja, bija, pala i nic, a tu jakis Prokopczyk
jeden czy dwa artykuliki i juz - koles z Goebbelsem.
No i znowu wszystko skrupi sie na Polakach.
Nie wiem czy wiecie, ale tych "odmlodzonych" nazi
to nawet sie broni. A ze to tylko mlodzi i zbuntowani
chlopcy czy cos w tym stylu.
...  A co? Ze starsi przyklaskuja? Ludzie!
Przeciez kazdy rodzic sie cieszy jak jego dzieciak
sie popisuje. Nie badzcie tacy wrazliwi!
Moj znajomy artysta-malarz (nie mylic z malarzem
pokojowym, choc tez znam ale zyje wspolczesnie)
zawsze sie skarzyl, ze aby byc slawnym i wedrzec sie
na rynek sztuki to trzeba byc albo Zydem albo ..."wybitnym".
Do tej pory zawsze sie z niego smialem, myslac ze miernota
no to sie skarzy. Teraz zachodze w glowe ze przeciez
ja tez ani nie jestem nazi ani literat, a jednak ...
Trzeba widac tylko wiedziec do kogo zagadac.

Tak naprawde to nie wiem czy mam sie smiac czy plakac?
A propos smiechu to przypomnialo mi sie jak kiedys kolega
z SB (!!!) zawiadomil mnie ze maja mnie juz na liscie.
Zadalem mu to samo pytanie. Odpowiedz byla: UWAZAC!
Hmmm, czyzby teraz tez ....?

Mariusz


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