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From: brucec@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Bruce Cheney)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Timex Reliability (was Re: New Timex Watch)
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:22:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: tekgen.1354
Organization: Tektronix, Inc.

Has anyone else had problems with Timex reliability? I seem to go
through a watch about every two years. Why do I keep buying them?
I like the features better than the other watches out there. But
based on this discussion I would like to look at a Casio.

BTW - just last weekend my Timex Triathlon (original style)
started "double" clicking on the start button. The Chronometer
starts when you depress the button and stops when you let go.
Darn - I thought I did that last swim 50 in 0.25 seconds!!

Bruce Cheney
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
From: lpc@dickens.com (Luis P Caamano)
Subject: Re: New Timex Watch
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:45:17 GMT
Organization: Dickens Data Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Oct1.135741.8013@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> rjd@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Dick Dowe) writes:
>
>Thanks for the review.  I was hoping the new Timex would have the
>features of the Casio along with a larger split memory.  Oh well,
>it looks like I will keep the Casio (I just got a new one from
>R. B. Athletic).

Which Casio are you guys refering to?  The yellow CBX 1000? 

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From: tims@cci632.cci.com (Tim Sullivan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Re: New Timex Watch
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:20:42 GMT
Reply-To: tims@cci.com (Tim Sullivan)
Organization: Northern Telecom NAS, Rochester, NY


lpc@dickens.com (Luis P Caamano) wrote this about 
"New Timex Watch":
>
>Which Casio are you guys refering to?  The yellow CBX 1000? 
>
	The Casio watch that I am writing about is the model 504.  It is also
	marked as the XC-30.  On the watch face is the phrase "Lap Memory 30".
	It cost me about $35 in the fall of 1989.  I had one very similar
	before this one with the same features.  Unfortunately it was ripped
	off my wrist in a triathlon in Lake Ontario.

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Tim Sullivan
tims@cci.com
From: retzer@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Joe J Retzer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: New Timex Ironman Watch
Date: 28 Sep 1992 19:54:29 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Reply-To: retzer@convex.csd.uwm.edu
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Originator: retzer@convex.csd.uwm.edu

A while back someone mentioned that timex had come out with
(was coming out with) a new version of its ironman watch. Among
other features was a 60 lap memory. My question is :

      Has this watch actually arrived at retail stores or

      Did Timex just "announce" it would be coming out sometime
      in the future?

The reason I ask is that I've checked a few places in my area that
carry alot of timex merchandise and noone has any idea of what I'm
reffering to.

			       Thanks in advance,
				   Joe

Organization: Sophomore, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:02:19 -0400 
From: Scott Philip Mcdonald <sm74+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: New Timex Ironman Watch
	<1992Sep28.233514.17296@walter.bellcore.com>

Hello fellow triathletes!  The new Timex IS here.  I saw it at the
sports expo for "The Great Race" 10k in Pittsburgh this past weekend. 
It looks about the same I thought, but with red trim instead of orange. 
I think it sells for about $45 but they had it on sale.  I don't know
much more about it, but it IS out there.  I would suggest looking at
fitness-type stores instead of jewelry/watch stores (and of course at
fitness expos).

-Scooter 
From: kruemp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (John Kruempelstaedter)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:00:48 GMT
Subject: Re: Escape from Alcatraz and NBC coverage
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon

Whoops..........


I was going to say we should all write them a note and 
compliment them on the coverage so that they will
continue this sort of coverage.

John K.



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From: dpe@inel.gov (Don Palmrose)
Subject: Re: LONG Distance Running Questions
Organization: INEL EG&G Idaho
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 17:35:21 GMT

In article <Oct.5.11.40.46.1992.7167@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, arands@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Rolf Arands) writes:
> 
> In just 4 short weeks I will be participating in my first marathon (NYC, 
> 11/1).  Not bad, considering 6 months ago I had trouble getting up to
> walk to the next room.  
> 
> My question:  
> 
> I have found that my skin has been getting irritated, most notably under
> the arms.  The other "common" areas of irritation I have found solutions 
> for, but the arms still plague me.  After my 20 mile run yesterday, I had
> two glowing red patches under each arm with the pain to match.  
> 
> How do I minimize or avoid this in the marathon?  Any and all clues
> I would appreciate very much.  
> 
> Rolf Arands
> arands@gandalf.rutgers.edu
> 
> 
> "Why?  Me."
> 
> 

I am making the assumption that this is due to your arms rubbing your torso
at the point in question due to your arm swing motion.  If this is true, you 
only have three choices (IMO): 

1) change your arm motion by holding your elbows out more away from your body 
to give more room between your arms and body as the arm swings;

2) check to see if the shirt you are wearing is causing this rubbing in part
due to your arm motion so either do item #1 or wear a different shirt 
preferably a sleeve-less running shirt (like track&field people use); or

3) lubricate the area causing the trouble with vasiline or similar product
so the two body part will slide and not rub.  

The third had worked for me while wearing a wetsuit or on the bike during a
triathlon in other areas than my arms.  However, try them out before the NYC 
marathon to make sure one works (but you probably knew that so just a friendly
reminder :-) )

Good luck at NYC.

Don Palmrose





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From: sjlt@leland.Stanford.EDU (Sean Lev-Tov)
Subject: Re: wanted: Santa Cruz Sentinel entry
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ca
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 22:16:11 GMT

In article <6448@libra.cs.nps.navy.mil> adaptive@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (zyda res acct) writes:
>Well, here it is, a few days before the Santa Cruz Sentinel Triathlon
>and I decide I want to do it. Anybody have a race packet they want to
>sell? I will pay for shipping!
>
>george dabro
>Cyberware
>
>dabro@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil

Unfortunately, I'm sick.  I am willing to sell my packet for the price I paid
for it: $50.  I am posting this in case George already got one from somebody
else.  I'm located in Palo Alto.

Sean Lev-Tov


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From: lari@saadi.berkeley.edu (Francesco Lari)
Subject: pre-race warm up  
Reply-To: lari@robotics.berkeley.edu 	
Organization: UC Berkeley Signal Processing VLSI Group
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:28:22 GMT

I already posted it, but maybe it didn't make it, because I haven't received 
any answer. Please excuse me if you have already seen this poster. 
Here I go again: 

Hi, 

I will do my first multisport event in 2 weeks. It is a biathlon, with 
800mt swim and 6k run. 
I am a pretty good runner (36' on 10k) and a recreational swimmer (quite 
slow...), so I feel trained enough for this. 
My concerns are: 
-How can I warm up for a swim race? 
-Should I also make run warm-up before starting? 
-Should I practice the transition by swimming+running a day at the pool? 
-After the transition, is it better to start running slow and catching up 
my race pace after 1-2k or so? 
 
	Thanks in advance for any suggestion, 

		    FRANCESCO 



Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
From: jonesey@crystal ( Doug Jones)
Subject: Re: New Timex Ironman Watch
Keywords: WATCH TIMEX CASIO
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:47:30 GMT

I HAVE THE NEW TIMEX WATCH !! (thanks ken for shaming me into this.)

The only place i have seen it carried is in the Road Runner sports
catalog (a running shoe catalog).  Think it was $49, but, i got it 
as a birthday present so really did'nt pay attention to cost.

I have talked to several bike shop owners in the area and they have not
yet heard of the new watch, so, guess word is not widely out yet.

I previously used a 30 lap memory casio, and can post some observations
of both watch types, tho these are strictly my own personal observations
and should not be used by anyone as a basis to purchase one watch or another.
(mileage may vary).  note that i never had an 8 split timex, just was'nt
enough for a track workout. so, won't have observations on the two different
timex watches, just the casio and the new timex.

Tonight i will study the owners manual (if i can find it) just to be sure
that i have my facts straight and will post the observations tomorrow.

stay tuned.


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From: kenl@origami.cc.bellcore.com (Ken Lehner)
Subject: Re: New Timex Ironman Watch
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 23:35:14 GMT

(Yes, Doug, I have been getting a LOT of work done today).

My friend Doug in Boulder was sporting the new watch last week.  (If he
ever gets a screen-oriented news reader, he'll post lots o' stuff).
Apparently, it has a 50 lap memory.  For those of you familiar with the
old Ironman watch, one no longer has to push the lap button twice for
each lap; instead, push it once for each lap, and it displays the previous
lap for ~10 seconds, and the display then automatically goes on to the
next (current) lap.  To view the laps (after stopping, I'd guess), one
pushes the "set" button (I think, but don't hold me to this).  The face
looks slightly different, I recall.  This is all from looking at Doug's
watch; even he hadn't figured it out yet (but he surely didn't read the
owner's manual).
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
From: mdk@michael.udev.cdc.com (Mike D. Kail)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Re: LONG Distance Running Questions
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:25:59 GMT
Reply-To: mdk@michael.udev.cdc.com (Mike D. Kail)
Organization: Control Data Systems

In article <Oct.5.11.40.46.1992.7167@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, arands@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Rolf Arands) writes:
|>
|> My question:  
|> 
|> I have found that my skin has been getting irritated, most notably under
|> the arms.  The other "common" areas of irritation I have found solutions 
|> for, but the arms still plague me.  After my 20 mile run yesterday, I had
|> two glowing red patches under each arm with the pain to match.  
|> 
|> How do I minimize or avoid this in the marathon?  Any and all clues
|> I would appreciate very much.  

Why not use what works for the other problem areas? (i.e. Vaseline)

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From: spesau@acs.ucalgary.ca (Shane P Esau)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Re: LONG Distance Running Questions
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:09:53 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <Oct.5.11.40.46.1992.7167@gandalf.rutgers.edu> arands@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Rolf Arands) writes:

>My question:  
>
>I have found that my skin has been getting irritated, most notably under
>the arms.  The other "common" areas of irritation I have found solutions 
>for, but the arms still plague me.  After my 20 mile run yesterday, I had
>two glowing red patches under each arm with the pain to match.  
>
>How do I minimize or avoid this in the marathon?  Any and all clues
>I would appreciate very much.  
>
First, have you put Vaseline under there?  This works great.
Second, what type of top are you wearing?  A great fabric which
wicks away moisture and does not irritate as easily as cotton or
cotton/polyester blends is coolmax - I have a Tinley top made out
of Coolmax and I have yet to chaffe (sp?) from it - and I used it
in a half Ironman distance race the whole way (including the
swim) - but remeber we wear wetsuits up here all the time.

Also, remember to put Vaseline on your nipples - they are very
prone to rubbing and this can get very painful.  Another place to
put Vaseline is between your legs and finally on your feet - if
you are wearing socks, and are prone to blisters, try Vaseline on
your feet - it really decreases the friction which causes
blisters

Shane Esau
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
From: E5EM <E5EM@UNB.CA>
Subject: Aero wheels
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:18:07 GMT

    I am thinking of purchasing a set of wheels for TT's. I would
appreciate your comments on different brands of wheels(tri-spokes,
discs, etc.), how well they ride, durability and time benefits.
Thanks.



     Kevin Besner

     University of New Brunswick

Organization: Doctoral student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 11:37:03 -0400 
From: "Linda C. Schmidt" <lg20+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Equalithon

I happen to be writing this on my wife's account.  I've been observing
the messages regarding the Equalithon.  I've always thought that it
makes more sense to equalize the time spent in all three events.  While
I realize that skills vary a lot between the events, distances should be
selected to equalize the average time spent in each event.  I consider
myself pretty much equal in all three events.  However, it's ridiculous
to spend say 6 minutes in the water, 30 minutes on the bike, and 20
minutes running as I did in the CMU triathlon.  Of course you can
extrapolate to greater distances.  In the Iron man the 2.5 mile swim
would take an average swimmer 1 to 1 hr 15 min (at 1000 yds/15min) the
bike about 5 hours (at 20 miles/hour) and the run 4 hours (at a little
over 9 minute miles).  The times aren't even close! If one wants to run
then run.  If one wants to bike then bike. If one wants to swim then
swim.  If one wants to compete in a duathlon then do that as well.  But
we are talking about triathlons. So lets have the distances equalized to
spend about the same amount of time in each.  I'm anticipating an
argument for looking at the calories or energy burned!  But this as we
know depends on a lot of other factors(ie weight, etc).

M. C. Schmidt

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From: sjlt@leland.Stanford.EDU (Sean Lev-Tov)
Subject: Re: wanted: Santa Cruz Sentinel entry
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ca
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 00:04:37 GMT


I forgot to include my phone number:  (415) 497-1656.  As a reminder, I'm
selling my entry since I'm sick.  Price is $50 (what I paid).  

Sean Lev-Tov
From: vivian@westgac3
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: [WCW] H Havoc - my ch
Summary: Rumors about the Wheel?
Keywords: halloween havoc
Date: 23 Sep 92 02:41:25 GMT
Organization: West Georgia Color Computer 3

>You think they would learn from past mistakes.  The major problem with
>WCW is that they don't rehearse these type of situations very well and
>then something screws up during the show.
>---
> . DeLuxe./386 1.25 #42 . 
I was watching a segment of WCW Sunday night and heard a brief spot about them
wondering about the wisdom of the Spin The Wheel, Make The Deal Matches. 
IMHO the lack of rehearsals make the matches more entertaining.
I do feel that  some matches may have different outcomes, esp. if their
opponents fix the wheel ahead of time without the others knowledge.   
Does anybody else feel the same way?
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From: Steve_Hooper@mindlink.bc.ca (Steve Hooper)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Wrestling Challenge
Date: 5 Oct 92 05:44:09 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Joe Fipp writes:
>
>   Repo Man wrestled.  Only good move was when the jobber was on the apron
> outside the ring and Repo yanked his feet out from under him.  Repo won
> with
> a half Boston crab.


Is that what you call that?  I prefer the description someone else used here
on RSPW:

The "Oh My God, That Doesn't Hurt A Bit, Why Is It A Submission Hold" Leg
Pull.


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From: v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Kensuke Sasaki Coming to WCW
Date: 27 Sep 92 05:17:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


   There's been some excitement about Backlund's return to the WWF, but for
my money much more intriguing news comes from WCW.  Tonight on TBS, they
showed a promotional clip of Kensuke Sasaki and announced that he would be
coming to WCW soon.  The way they played him up, they gave the impression
that Sasaki, unlike several other Japanese wrestlers who have come to WCW,
would be sticking around for awhile and playing a major role in the promotion.
They gave him a good push, showing him dominate the Steiners from the match
from the Eggdome show last year.  I hope this isn't one of those Jushin Liger/
Great Muta "stay in the U.S. for two weeks" deals.  Sasaki is one of the
better young wrestlers in Japan (which is to say in the world) and I think he's
definitely the equal of anyone wrestling in the U.S. right now.
   Not to dig on Backlund returning because I think he was great, but you all
know as well as I Vince is gonna ruin it for Bob with lame gimmickry, silly
angles, and a refusal to let the guy do what he does best: *wrestle*.  If
Watts doesn't ground him and he sticks around or awhile, I'd be willing to
bet that Sasaki will give us ten times as many memorable matches in WCW as
Backlund will in the WWF.  So I'm a little biased; Sasaki is one of my
favorite wrestlers.  But I still think time will prove me correct on this.

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From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: TV Taping in Brandon, Man
Date: 27 Sep 92 11:20:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

BR>Last match with Shango had him against MM.  Must be getting old.  Slowing
  >down a bit, or maybe just because of his competition.  Still, no-one can fly
  >the top rope like him.

I can think of a lot of guys who come off the top rope better, and do
better moves off of the top, than Savage.  Rey Misterio Jr., Oro, Plata,
Ultimo Dragon, Jushin Liger, etc.

BR>Is it normal to see so many wrestlers come out 2 or 3 (or even 4) times in
  >one night for a TV-taping?  Really ruins it, in my opinion.

Yup.  That's SOP.  If the guys are only working squashes, it's semi
realistic.  If not, it exposes the business big time.
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From: jnelson@iastate.edu (Jeremy F Nelson)
Subject: Re: Ric Flair as a face
Keywords: Nikita was a face in 1985
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 20:54:52 GMT

In article <Bv96Dz.7uB@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp) writes:
>  People were taling about Flair facing Nikita in 1985 as a heel/heel
>match.  Wasn't that the time when Nikita turned good in light of Magnum TA's
>accident.  I seem to recall Starcade 1985 being the Night of the Skywalker's,
>with Flair going against a good Nikita, who recently formed the Superpowers
>with Dusty Rhodes.

    Actually, this is almost correct.  Koloff won the US title in the
Great American Bashes in 1986 of course against Magnum T.A.
Flair wrestled Koloff during the bashes a few times, and a couple more times
after the bashes.  Koloff turned good around about a month or so after the
bashes when Magnum had his accident.  I checked with my back issues of PWI
about this information.  People were cheering (such as it is) for Flair
when he wrestled Koloff during the summer, and then for Koloff after T.A.s
accident.  Maybe some of you remeber Flair's blasts of "You'd rather cheer for
a commie that me!  At least I'M an American and pay my taxes! (ga-aag!)"

   That was truly the high point of NWA history.
   
   BTW:  Am I the only one who refuses to call the NWA the WCW?

jfn


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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Two Questions
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:05:35 GMT
Organization: Carleton University

In <1992Sep29.225448.13221@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> pmbarlow@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Dan Fielding) writes:

>2 WWF World titles (defeated, in order, Sid Justice and Randy Savage.)

Well, lets not confuse the poor marks who may think from this that Sid
is a former WWF champion! We all know Flair *eliminated* Justice in
the Royal Rumble to win the title.


>2 NWA World tag titles, both with Greg Valentine (and there may be more... I'm
>not sure.  In the era that he and Greg won these titles, NWA records are, at
>best, sketchy.)

I'm pretty sure he and Blackjack Mulligan were NWA tag champs for
like, 2 weeks or so.

I've noticed that the NWA tag record from the 70s is spotty as well.
Any reason for this? Were promoters in some sort of title anarchy?

>Four men, and one or two managers, who virtually dominated the NWA's title
>scene.  At one point in time or another, all of the following were involved
>with the Horsemen:  Flair, Ole Anderson, Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard, Lex
>Luger, James J. Dillon, Barry Windham, Robin Greene, Sting, Kendall Windham,
>Hiro Matsuda, Sid Vicious.

...you left out Dan Fielding! <g>

Michael
"Not as sexy as Dan Fielding, but has a nicer collection of sweaters!"