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From: claude@TRC.MEW.MEI.CO.jp
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Subject: Re: @^D(HDESQview/X
Date: 23 Jul 92 03:32:41 GMT
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From Steve Dwyer:
>
> >
> > I beg to differ. I lived in Japan for 26 years, and I saw a great
> > deal of ugly stuff. As for the immigration regulations, they may
> > be out of date. I'd appreciate an update.
> >
> Automatic citizenship uesed to be granted only if the father was
> Japanese.  Now a Japanese mother is enough.  Permanent residency is
> possible after only 5 years in Japan; it used to be something like 10 or
> 12 years.  I do not know of the regulations requiring a Japanese name,
> but I have heard of one famous guitarist who changed his citizenshpi
> from French to Japanese without changing his name.  (I suppose it is
> possible he was an exception -- this case was about 15 years ago.)

You are saying about Claude Ciari. In fact he changed his name! I know
it because his name is just the same as mine (Claude) and he is using
Kanji to represent it! Another case, it's the brazilian soccer player
Ramos who changed his name to RA-MO-SU in kanji style.
It's necessary to have a "Japanese style" name not a japanese name.
What I meant by a japanese style name is something in Katakana, Hiragana
or Kanji, and of course, for instance, my name (Claude Huss) would be
something like "Kuroudo Ha-su" if I write in Japanese. This is a serious
problem mainly for Korean-Japanese who don't want to change their original
names for a "Japanese Style".
About permanent residency is something very difficult to get if you are
a "Total" foreigner here. When I say "total", I meant someone who is not
married to Japanese or don't have any link to japanese. The Immigration
will be very strict if you don't have these links! Of course, if you
have a nobel prize or somewhat you could have a chance... :-)

> I never said there is no prejudice in Japan, but I did imply that the
> prejudice is not as open as in other countries.  I would imagine that
> none of the "ugly stuff" was actually ugly enough to be considered
> criminal.  Am I wrong?

I think there is prejudice anywhere in the world. The PROBLEM is what
kind of rights do you have? If you are refused to work, to rent a house,
etc. etc. only because you are a foreigner and you cannot do anything,
I think this is a serious problem... I think prejudice was not so open
until recent years, but now I think it's becoming very very open!! I
tried to sue some real state agent because he said terrible things about
me (because I was a foreigner), and a friend of mine said there is no
laws about prejudice in Japan... Have you heard about that case where
korean-japanese were refused at some workplaces only because they were
foreigners?

--
Claude Huss
Matsushita Electric Works, Ltd. Tokyo Research Labs.
Phone: +81-3-3452-4941	FAX: +81-3-3451-0793  Home:(044) 549-4913
Mita 5-13-2, Minato-Ku, Tokyo 108, JAPAN
DISCLAIMER:"I'm not thinking, saying, talking or even working for my employer"
From: borden@M5.HARVARD.EDU
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Subject: Mr. Borden
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:57:14 GMT
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------- Forwarded Message

From: Smittie <smittie@BEACH.CSULB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: racism in Japan
X-To:         NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
To: Dave Borden <borden@M5.harvard.edu>

My Webster's II New Riverside Dictionary defines enthic as "of or relating to a
racial, national, or cultural group."

So based on that alone it is sage to say that Mr. Borden had it backwards.

Race is defined as a division of the population distinguished by physical
characteristics transmitted by genes.

I agree with Mr. Borden in concept. I am simply pointing out rather minor
semantics here. Sorry for picking nits. :{)

smittie

------- End of Forwarded Message

I (the afore-mentioned Mr. Borden) didn't have it either backwards or
forwards.  All I did was inquire, what is the difference between those two
terms.  Maybe someone else had it backwards before I latched onto the
conversation.

From this definition, however, it looks like ethnocentrism can be viewed as a
subset of racism, though I'm not sure I'd want to make a blanket statement
that ethnocentrism is always racism.

   - Dave
From: NU169273@VM1.NODAK.EDU
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Subject: Re: English->Kanji/hiragana/katakana dictionary sought
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:09:31 GMT
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                                               1109 16th Street North #1
                                               Fargo, ND  58102
Hi Peter,

   I've run across a Japanese English Dictionary of some form
   on a local BBS.  Are you still interested?  Its MS-DOS based.


   Yours truly,

   Kevin Paulson
From: Thomas_Dicorcia.ISO-SV@XEROX.COM
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Subject: Blank Mail Note
Date: 31 Jul 92 03:25:38 GMT
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Peter,

I don`t have details, but thought I would pass on some bits of info and ideas
off the top of my head:

 1. San Diego (probably University of California at San Diego, but maybe San
Diego State) has a graduate business program with emphasis on Japan.  They
recruited some hotshot Japan specialist (the name escapes me) a couple of years
ago to head up the program.

 2. The Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania is one of the top
business schools in the U.S.  They have an interdisciplinary program in which
students specialize in a language and area of the world along with their MBA
classes.  I believe Japan is one of the focus areas.  Ask about the "Lauder
Program".  They have language study abroad the first Summer in the program and
arrange an overseas internship the next Summer.

 3. JAIMS - Japan-America Institute of Management Science in Hawaii is a
special business-language school supported by Fujitsu.  The focus on Japan is
definitely there, but I`m not sure how good the business classes are.

 4. While I was at New York University G.B.A. (Now Stern School of Management),
they had an International Management Prgram which was an exchange program with
other business schools around the world.  I chose to go to Bocconi in Milan for
a semester, but they had an arrangement with some business school in Japan
which was a few hours (!) outside Tokyo.  Don`t recall the name.

 5.  There are a few excellent business schools which also have good Asian
study departments or some tie with Japan.  Don`t rule out the possibility that
you can design your own program which could incorporate Japan
study/internships, etc.  Consider Stanford, Berkeley, Yale, and Cornell.

 This is all rather vague, but should give you some direction for further
inquiries.  Perhaps someone else on the net can fill in some of the blanks I
left.  Good luck.

Tom DiCorcia
From: cmr@WORLD.STD.COM
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Subject: Re: racism in Japan
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:23:20 GMT
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On Mon, 27 Jul 1992, Smittie wrote:

> Ethnicentrism cannot be a form of racism since ethnocentrism is based on
> ethnicity and racism is based on race. Ethnicity and race are not synonymous
> Both are forms of prejudice.
>
> smittie

Websters 3d International  (_THE_  Merriam Webster's) defines:

ethnocentric ... 1: centering opon race as the chief interest or end
	         2a: inclined to regard one's own race or social group
		    as the center of culture.

ME} Clearly ethnocentrism not only can be a form of racism but is typically a
ME} form of racism.

Oxford English Dictionary

ethnic  ....   1. Pertaining to nations not Christian or Jewish.
	       2. Pertaining to race; peculiar to a race or nation;
		  ethnological.

The derivation is from the Greek for heathan nation... interesting!


Charlie


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From: smittie@LARK.ACS.CSULB.EDU
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Subject: Re: Ugly Stuff
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:12:38 GMT
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Sue writes:
>I beg to differ. I lived in Japan for 26 years, and I saw a great
>deal of ugly stuff.
To which Anil replied, in essence, the "ugly stuff" in Tokyo is
pretty mild when compared on an international scale.

I have to agree with Anil here. I grew up near Los Angeles. While
serving in the Navy I saw most of the countries in Asia. I was on
Shore Patrol and as a result got up-close-and-personal with a lot of
the "ugly stuff" in many of those countries. In my ten years of
watching Japan, Japan's "ugly stuff" doesn't compare to the "ugly
stuff" happening in many other countries.

That is not to say that Japan is utopia. Only that the comparative
level is far less.

smittie
From: patrickc@LCLARK.EDU
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Subject: Re: English->Kanji/hiragana/katakana dictionary sought
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:54:42 GMT
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The best E->J dictionary I have seen is the Kenkyusha Furigana E->J Diction-
ary, which has all the Japanese definitions with their pronunciations in
furigana.  It makes things much easier.

I just got the Spahn-Hadamitsky about two weeks ago, and already I like it
better than Nelson.  It is much more logically arranged.

Good Luck

Patrick
patrickc@lclark.edu
From: P.McColgan@FRPR.BULL.FR
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Subject: Re:  kanji-software
Date: 31 Jul 92 03:25:45 GMT
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Frank writes "If anybody else has a better idea to help you ...?"

Use ftp-mail courtesy of the University of Wollongong.  It works
really well though you end up with a lot of mail!

Rather than post their welcome note, try sending a mail to
ftpmail@cs.uow.edu.au with some junk as contents and you should
get the help file return of post. You can then ftp all over
the world, though it is indirect and slow.

Thank you University of Wollongong!!!

regards from my personal sauna, otherwise known as an office ;-}

Peter

ps.  Don't be so paranoid Maiko, no-one's out to fry asses :-]
     so you can take of your asbestos undies and put your
     normal ones back on, I'm sure they're much more comfortable....
From: anil@CS.TITECH.AC.jp
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Subject: Mac Powerbooks/Japanese systems
Date: 25 Jul 92 04:42:40 GMT
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I seem to recall some talk about the Japanese system on the power book.
Is it possible to get a Japanese system running on a Powerbook 100?
Is it just Sys 7.0 which does not run?
Does anyone have a copy of the previous discussion...?

Thanks a million.
Anil
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From: robert@AHI.PBRC.HAWAII.EDU
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Subject: island mentality
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:21:28 GMT
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>Victor--I hate to have to tell you this, and this is just my opinion,
>but I think the Japanese are very racist.

Well, the term racist has maybe a little more baggage than I'd like.
Maybe ethnocentric would be better. Most Asians have a cultural value
that places preference on their own group. Japans insularity make that
more identified with their entire nation. In contrast the levels
of the same phenomena in China result in preferences for Chinese above
others, but even for members of their region over those from other parts
of the country. The part of Japanese behaviour I'd explicitly call
racists involves the attitude towards the "native" sub-population of
the other islands including Okinawa and Saipan.

[ ... stuff deleted ]

Ken Latta, University of Michigan

I thought Ken was about to lean into a point about the island
mentality, but since he didn't I will.  Having lived in Hawaii for some
time I came to realize that some insularity comes from the feeling of
[for lack of a better word] vulnerability that comes from being
`exposed' on all sides.  I've heard the same thing from Australians
(granted it is a pretty big `island') but I certainly see it in Hawaii.
I imagine some of the Japanese racism/ethnocentrism-call it what you want-is
rooted in this, albeit rooted from a historical base that lingers.

Expanding on this thought of island mentality as I see it, some history
books will tell you that the Hawaiian pidgin was a basic staple formed
so the people of different cultures could relate, but now the story is
changing since pidgin isn't leaving but instead is becoming/has become
a staple for `identification' of the people (ie. they use it even
though they they can relate without it now.)  It seems to me that the
Japanese language/culture/behavior must operate in this identification
role, to some degree.  What is known is certainly more safe and
therefore palatable on first glimpse than what is unknown.  One of the
best things that can happen to these island kids is for them to live
elsewhere (ie. on the mainland for kids from Hawaii)
for a while in their teen years, or for college.  Many of them gain a
sense of `known' for the mainland and are able to relate to the other
49 states better as a country.  The sense of the mainland as a `them'
seems to turn to an `us', at least in the few cases I've seen.
I wonder about what I've heard about a word for Japanese who leave
the country and then come back--something to the effect of not being
completely Japanese anymore.  This sort of thing, if true, bothers me
and makes me wonder what all this Japanese talk of `globalization' is
all about anyway.  That word-globalization-is not the same
as `world integration' and I'm well aware of the differences in meaning, if
you know what I mean.

Robert Graf @ Univ. of Hawaii (but not the views thereof)




gain a sense of
From: SATO@MAXIMILLION.MCC.COM
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Subject: Re:  Blank Mail Note
Date: 31 Jul 92 03:24:34 GMT
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 1. San Diego (probably University of California at San Diego, but maybe San
Diego State) has a graduate business program with emphasis on Japan.  They
recruited some hotshot Japan specialist (the name escapes me) a couple of years
ago to head up the program.

---> Tom, you are right. It was UC San Diego. The school offers a Masters
in Pacific/International Affairs. One of the requirements for graduation is
a language proficiency, whether in Japanese, Spanish, Chinese, etc. Chalmers
Johnson is one of the hotshot professors that they recruited. He has
written extensively on MITI (Ministry of International Trade and Industry) and
Japanese industrial policy.

I looked at the UCSD program several years ago. They are highly considered in
the industrial community and the program seems willing to be flexible. I had
heard that they are one of the top six schools for international affairs
degrees.

Hope this helps.

Satoshi Nishimura
International Liaison Office/ Microelectronics and Computer Technology Corp.
3500 West Balcones Center Dr.
Austin, TX 78759
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From: uwm.edu!caen!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!The-Star.honeywell.com!umn.edu!noc.msc.net!uc.msc.edu!apctrc!zrde05@lll-winken.llnl.gov  (Robert D. Ess)
Subject: DomainOS 10.4/X/HpVue
Organization: Amoco Production Company, Tulsa Research
Distribution: fj
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:56:42 GMT
Return-Path: <apollo-list-errors@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>

Back in March, with the release of 10.4, I reported a problem with the X
server. I am posting this to see if anybody else has seen this behaviour
and possibly may have a fix.

If I bring up X(R4) or HPVue after a reboot, it can take upwards of five
minutes to process the .X* files and/or .vue files. It appears to be con-
tained to only xterms and, more specifically, to the .Xdefaults xterm
resource strings. To alleviate the problem, you must remove/rename the
.Xdefaults and/or the .vue directory, reboot, and restore these files and
directories. HP Support has escalated the call (This is JULY!!) and has
reported that eight other sites have seen this behaviour as well. 

The configuration is 425t, 32mg mem, 2 scsi internals at 5 and 6 running
DomainOS 10.4. (Not anymore...I put up HP-UX on it until they get this
fixed. I hate to say this, but it is MUCH faster than Domain).

Thanks for any help.

                                  --- * ---
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Computing Research                              fax     : 918-660-4163
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                 "Magic -- a science waiting on it's Newton" 
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From: hplextra!hpcc05!hpbbn!hpugrca!hgk@hplabs.hpl.hp.com  (Hans-Gerhard Kall)
Subject: Re: NFS mount: Access Denied, SR10.3
Organization: HP Response-Center Germany, Ratingen
Distribution: fj
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 06:39:23 GMT
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To me it sounds like a configuration problem ...

In general I'd like to recommend to update to NFS Version 2.3.
Patch pd91_m0299 includes a new nfs_gate and nfsd for NFS V.2.2.

Regards,

Hans-Gerhard Kall
Response Center
Hewlett-Packard GmbH
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From: agate!spool.mu.edu!cserver!edsi!chuck@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Chuck Tomasi)
Subject: Re: Favourite DOMAIN/OS features (or mis-features)
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
Distribution: fj
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 01:01:40 GMT
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bcr@cernapo (Bill Riemers) writes:

:)Ah, but this is also one of its bigest problems.  If you have two or three
:)hundred private nodes linked together you have a problem.  You can't possably
:)have enough hired system managers take care of them all.  On the other hand,
:)you don't dare allow 200+ people with root privledge either.  What I wouldn't
:)give to be able to have someone from my university to have root access to our
:)nodes...  Instead, I have to wait weeks for a system manager to get time to
:)make relatively minor changes.

Point taken.  Isn't that where group "wheel" comes into play?  Group
permissions are a great way of giving "some" priviledges without buying
the farm.

Then again I'm only taking care of 37 nodes, have relatively intelligent
engineers for users, and let five or six trusted people have root
access.  I'm naive, but don't have to chase down every little "hey I did
'chown' instead of 'chmod'..."
-- 
Chuck Tomasi             |     "Mom, it's Data.  I heard you know
chuck@edsi.plexus.COM    |      how to turn him on." 
spool!cserver!edsi!chuck |                    -Wesley  "Datalore"
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From: micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!wupost!spool.mu.edu!cserver!edsi!chuck@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (Chuck Tomasi)
Subject: BZONE for Domain -where can I find it?
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 16:03:09 GMT
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Where can I find bzone for Domain?  I don't care if it is run under
Xdomain or Display Manager.  I looked on the Interworks ftp site, but
only found the one for HP-UX (comp.hp/bzonec.hp.tar.Z).  There was
nothing in comp.apollo unless I missed the obvious.

-- 
Chuck Tomasi             |     "Mom, it's Data.  I heard you know
chuck@edsi.plexus.COM    |      how to turn him on." 
spool!cserver!edsi!chuck |                    -Wesley  "Datalore"
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From: David Krowitz <krowitz@quake.mit.edu>
Subject: free? Apollo equipment
Organization: Electrotechnical Laboratory, Tsukuba Science City
Distribution: fj
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:58:33 GMT
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Just in case you called the MIT property office and got told
"huh?" (yeah, the big "my dog ate it" excuse), here's a copied
of the revised, double checked, and recently resubmitted
list of Apollo equipment that we have been trying to throw away
since April. Call the MIT property office. Maybe you *don't*
want to talk to Mr. Earl Fuller, maybe you want someone else,
I dunno. Call 617-253-1000 to get the main MIT switchboard and
ask for the property office.


== David Krowitz


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From: LKURTEN@EAGLE.MIT.EDU (Libby Kurten)
To: krowitz
Status: R


July 22, 1992.

To:	Earl Fuller
From:	Libby Kurten, 54-520
Re:	Disposal of surplus equipment.

The following is a list of surplus computer equipment from the Apollo 
workstation network. This equipment is no longer in use, nor is it 
needed for spare parts anymore. Please initiate the necessary MIT 
property office paperwork so that we can dispose of these items.

Equipment purchased by Peter Molnar
1) Apollo DN320 workstation (//MILNE)
     MIT property # 0193596
      S/N A0080432
2) Apollo 70 Mb hard disk plus floppy drive
     MIT property # 0193596 (attached to //MILNE)
     No S/N tag
Equipment purchased by Marcia McNutt
1) Apollo DN330 workstation (//BENO)
     No MIT property #
     S/N A00133571
2) Apollo 70 Mb hard disk plus floppy drive
     No MIT property #  (attached to //BENO)
      S/N A00134472
Equipment purchased by Tom Jordan
1) Apollo DN560 workstation (//LOVE)
     MIT property # 0196812
      S/N 55002114
2) Apollo DN330 workstation (//HOOKE)
     MIT property # 0195618
      S/N A00223389
3) Toshib P1351 dot matrix printer
     MIT property # 0191107
4) Kennedy 9400 9-Track tape drive
     MIT property # 0184943
5) Apollo DN330 workstation (//HUTTON)
     MIT #0184937
     S/N A00140565
Equipment purchased by Sean Solomon
1) Apollo DN330 workstation (//EWING)
     No MIT property #
      S/N A00253419


Please call me with any questions, x3-6180.  Thank you

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From: yale.edu!ira.uka.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!stepsun.uni-kl.de!sun.rhrk.uni-kl.de!zx1!uch024@yale-bulldog.arpa  (Lothar Koniczek)
Subject: Re: Mtools on Apollo
Organization: University of Dortmund (Germany), Department of Chemistry
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 11:49:44 GMT
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uhl@oracle (Walter Uhl) writes:
: I started playing around with Mtools last week.  Got everything
: to compile fine but found that when I executed "mdir a:" the 
: floppy spins up and mdir reports back "Cannot initialize 'A:".
: 
: Has anyone out there got the full suite of mtools working?
: How do I talk to the HD controller?  The mtools programs 
: work fine under Linux on my PC.
: 
: Thanks for the help.
: 
: Walter Uhl
: 
: email to uhl@solaria.hac.com   Not to the header address.
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