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From: noah@coos.dartmouth.edu (Noah Cole)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Long Flights.
Date: 11 Apr 92 00:29:13 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

staggers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ken Staggers) writes:

>doesnt northwest fly jfk (in nyc) to osaka or tokyo nonstop?

>--Ken

Northwest flys from JFK to Osaka.. but then again United, JAL, ANA, and maybe
Korean and some others fly from JFK to Tokyo..

-Noah Cole
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From: ljensen@plains.nodak.edu (Lars Jensen)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Unlimited Flight Tickets
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:31:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.16531

malexand@phakt.usc.edu (Michael Alexander) writes:

>There is an interesting option for 1 month unlimited flying within the U.S. 
>(except Hawaii) for around $ 500 : Discover USA (or similar) tickets which
>must be purchased abroad. Delta poses no restrictions on how 
>often a route can be flown. The only catch is that you have to have a valid
>return ticket to eg. Europe. The tickets you get through this program are 
>stand-by seats. Still, as long as you do not travel with large groups there
>are only very very slim chances that you can't get on a flight.

To to purchase this ticket you need to present proof of residency abroad.

Lars.
From: frank@chips.com (Frank Tsang)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: courier service/tickets
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:15:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Chips and Technologies, San Jose, CA

Does anyone know of a kind of ticket
that is very low cost but the restriction
is you are not allowed to checkin baggages.
Only carryon bag is allowed. I heard that
a RT SFO/HONGKONG is around $300.
Comments/reservation info/statements are appreciated.

Regards,

Frank Tsang

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From: keithb@reed.edu (Keith Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: here's a stab at a FAQ post -- comments/additions solicited
Date: 15 Apr 92 09:51:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Apr15.095144.7050
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

I personally find the OAG useless.  I used to use it a lot, but after finally
getting the on-line edition (Compu$erve), and attempting to actually place
bookings based on the OAG info, I was told by the airline (UAL at the time)
that there were no such flight(s).  I wasted my money (read: surcharges).
 
I attempted a refund, but, ha!  I stick with the Easy-Saaber system, and
usually book AA anyway (their concourse at O'Hare is right above the train).
 
-Keith

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From: torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie)
Subject: Continental Elite one-class upgrades
Summary: Can you use this with an AMEX student voucher?
Originator: torrie@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Keywords: upgrade student availability
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: rec
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:14:03 GMT

  I have one of these one-class upgrade certificates (having flown
10000 miles on a OnePass Elite membership).

  The conditions on the back say that the upgrade can be used in
conjunction with any paid, available adult fare, excluding certain
promotional fares.  Does anyone have any practical experience of using
this?  What sort of promotional fares are not included?  Has anyone
tried using it with an AMEX voucher?

(Speaking of which, I flew on a companion voucher with a friend to
 Orlando from SF over spring break, and wasn't asked for ID either
time...)

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From: autry@sgi.com (Larry Autry)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: AAdvantage court case
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:54:43 GMT
Distribution: rec.travel.air
Organization: Silicon Graphics, St. Louis, MO

In article <1992Apr9.083809.25372@cass.ma02.bull.com> abottone@cass.ma02.bull.com (Alessandro Bottonelli) writes:
>If I recall correctly, most airlines were sort of forced to switch to an
>expiribg system, because of a change in fiscal regulations that would 
>account accumulated mileage  as a "liability" (looks bad in
>balance sheets ). Most business people with a lot of mileage are the
>less likely to use them (don't have time to go on vacation or hate
>planes since they fly all the year round ...). Therefore, if this is
>correct, I would be surprised that a court would rule against AA.
>
TWA mileage never expires.  FFB mileage is a two edged sword.  On one side
is the fact that it is a liability, the other side is that it is an asset
that keeps FF passengers as faithful as is possible according to their
plans.  I wouldn't guess one way or the other regarding this court case
there are more mysteries in the law than in the supernatural.

--
Larry Autry
Silicon Graphics, St. Louis
autry@sgi.com 
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From: musick@sanquentin.berkeley.edu (Ron Musick)
Subject: AMEX Companion Tickets?????
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 04:28:34 GMT

I had heard some people mention that the AMEX student vouchers now
came with a companion ticket???  My husband (student) didn't get a
companion ticket.  Do you have to specifically ask for them?  If they
"ran out" of companion tickets, it seems like they should just reprint
them so that every student gets the same benefits.  Thanks for the
info!

Emy





Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: faiman@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Michael Faiman)
Subject: NY to Calgary
Summary: Request flight recommendations
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:12:15 GMT



    My 23 year old grad student son has to fly from New York to Calgary
early in June and back in late July.  I'd appreciate recommendations for
low cost fares.  E-mail will do nicely.  Thanks.

 -- Mike Faiman, Urbana		faiman@cs.uiuc.edu
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From: jpenovic@wizard.Berkeley.EDU (Jan Penovich)
Subject: Re: Airline food
Reply-To: jpenovic@encore.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 13:54:37 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.091949@is.morgan.com>, alg@is.morgan.com (Al
Guintu) writes:
> 
> i've heard similar claims from a friend who orders kosher food 
> whenever he's flying east to west.   although he's jewish, he's
> definitely not kosher.  nevertheless, he swears that the food is much 
> better because it comes from kosher caterers in the nyc area 
> (lou j. seigel, for example). 
> 
> i told him that this is not a good idea because it may deprive 
> those that are truly kosher from obtaining in-flight meals.  
> 

Why would your friend's ordering of a kosher meal prevent
anyone else from having one?  As long as a person orders one,
the airline will (usually) have one on board for them.

The problem arises when the flight attendant gives a special
meal to the wrong person, and that person doesn't say
anything.  this happened to the person next to me on my last
flight.  The flight attendant gave her a cold seafood meal
with someone else's name on it  in big letters, and she didn't open
her mouth except to shovel in the lobster salad.  The person
on the other side of the aisle had ordered it and was stuck
getting a regular meal.

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From: jl+@CS.CMU.EDU (Juan Leon)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: AMEX vouchers on USAir
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:44:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr09.154438.16461
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University


  The promotion code to give the USAir reservation agent when trying to
book with AMEX Continental student vouchers is:

 H/CO AMEX STUDENT

  It also seems that USAir agents are more aware of this now, so you don't
need the code with many of them.  Travel agents should be able to find the
code without explicitly giving it to them.  

  But it makes life easier for everyone to have it.

  Thanks to everyone (many) who responded.)  

Juan
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: staggers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ken Staggers)
Subject: Re: here's a stab at a FAQ post -- comments/additions solicited
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:57:15 GMT

A VERY GOOD start to an FAQ!  Here's my 2 cents.

>8.  WHAT IS THE USUAL BAGGAGE LOSS LIABILITY?
>
>    Not much.  Read your ticket. 

Airlines have a domestic baggage limit of about $1250.00 per checked luggage.
If your bag is lost, and it will not be considered to be lost until at least
5 days, then you will have to submit paperwork to the airline.  This part
can take anywhere from 2 to 6 weeks for reimbursement.  Note that you might
not get full value for all lost items.

Airline tariffs do not allow them to reimburse you for currency, photographic
equipment, electronic equipment, expensive jewelry, or prescription drugs.
However, if you charged your ticket to the American Express card, Amex will
reimburse you for up to $250.00 for all items not covered by the tariffs, in
addition to another ($500?) for items covered by the tariffs (if you lost more
than $1250.00).  Other credit cards may also do this as well.  Check before
you buy your ticket.

Also, credit card companies, like Amex, offer baggage delay insurance.  It is
sort of like a lottery.  You pay the card company approx $5.00 for each
ticket you buy.  If your flight TO your destination (in other words, not to
your home) arrives without your luggage, AND that luggage is delayed more
than 6 hours (or is eventually lost), you can charge up to $200.00 on your
credit card for immediate replacement (whatever you consider to be replacement)
goods.
 
For more exact information, check your ticket jacket.

[Laurie, you should add this section to the FAQ]

16.  Student Discounts and Vouchers

-AMEX/Continental vouchers
-Chase VISA/USAir vouchers
-Council Travel offices in the US
-Student Travel offices abroad
-International Student Identity Card

--Ken
From: praim@connext.ucs.sfu.ca (Praim Sankar)
Subject: Re: AA's new fare
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 05:51:43 GMT


maybe I am confused. So kindly explain to me why is it that when 
(prior to April 13) I booked for 4 tickets for 3 adults, 1 teenager
and 1 ten year  old, the 10 yr. old's fare is always at least a 
a 25-30% cheaper. No discounts for kids?
I sure remember the AA agent telling me at the Van. airport
yesterday that they eliminated the "seniors and children's discount".

As a matter fact the reason I paid my fare on April 12 was so that 
the adults could get the New lower rate and the child  could get the OLD
lower rate. The agent at the counter quoted 4 fares at $734 until I
pointed one was a child. He then said it was $546. Seems to me that it
has to be some kind of a discount.

It is my understanding that AA eliminated the 7/21 day advance purchase,
discounted the "full coach" fare to approx. what the advance purchase
used to be. So businessmen etc. who must travel at short notice can
get the benefit of a lower fare formerly available in 7/21.
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: altus@leland.Stanford.EDU (Steve Altus)
Subject: Re: Welcome/etc.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 19:09:32 GMT

In article <ashabana.702751739@uclagsm> ashabana@agsm.ucla.edu (Ahmed Shabana) writes:
>A few years ago I remember an article that mentionned that the longest
>segment was Tokyo - New York non-stop. The only airplane capable of
>flying it was the 747 SP. Is this still the case? 

a 747-200 could fly the route, just not with full payload.  UA and NW
both used 200's on the route for some time. . .PA used SP's.


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From: kamat@csl.dl.nec.com (Ganesh Kamat)
Subject: DFW to Detroit Ticket Needed
Organization: NEC America, C & C Software Development Laboratory
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:46:43 GMT

I need air tickets (round trip) from Dallas/Ft. Worth 
to Detroit (DTW) or coupons/vouchers for this route.

Leaving DFW on 04/24 (Friday) in the evening for DTW
Returning on 04/26 (Sunday) late in the evening.

Thanks,

Ganesh 'Gun' Kamat
kamat@texas.csl.dl.nec.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: sfg2483@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Shachar Frank )
Subject: Re: Frequent Fliers
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:53:36 GMT

henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:

>cjpaul@bahamas.ece.cmu.edu (Chakkalamattam J. Paul) wrote: 
>->To my knowledge, Delta, Air France, British Airways, Lufthansa, Swiss Air,
>->Singapore Airlines all fly to Bombay, and some of them supposedly have 
>->tieups with US airlines for accumulating frequent flier miles.  If anyone
>->has a FAQ file on frequent flier programs, that would help a lot.

>air india is associated with TWA's frequent flyer bonus program.  

>british airways is no longer associated with the ffb programs of any
>us airline.  

Not true! They're remaining partners in the FF programs of USAir and Alaska
Airlines. They discontinued patnerships only in their competitors programs
(i.e, United and American).

>if you felt sure about your TW mileage, you might fly on air india ...
>british airways will give you a stopover in london (could be a nice
>frolic).  

>singapore is associated with AAdvantage, but only for specific fare
>types and destinations.  

>lufthansa is associated with mileage plus (at least).
Plus USAir, Continental and Delta.

>yet another alternative: your miles are worth more when they're on the
>carrier which owns the ffb program; fly united/northwest/continental
>to the far east (NRT/HKG/SIN) and then fly an air india flight to
>bombay.  the return trip would put you close to being a mileage plus
>premier for the following year.

>--
># henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Airline food
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:32:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: qualcom.rdippold.702851573
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

I guess I've been spoiled by Alaska Airines's food.  At least it
seemed that way when I flew other carriers.  The food is actually
quality stuff, and tastes good!
-- 
The one who says it can't be done should never interrupt the one doing it.
From: mitja@hera.Berkeley.EDU (Mitja Baumhackl)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Airline food
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:01:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.rt63aINNees
Organization: University of California at Berkeley, Berkeley, CA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: hera.berkeley.edu
Originator: mitja@hera.Berkeley.EDU

Airline food, a contradiction in terms?  :-)

Any tips?  I've always heard that, for vegetarians, special meals are
better going West -> East because of California's produce and general
health consciousness...

mitja@hera.berkeley.edu
not endorsed by the University of California
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"That is the chicken entree, sir"
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From: naftaly@supergas.dazixco.ingr.com (Naftaly Stramer)
Subject: Purchasing tickets with MasterCard
Reply-To: naftaly@dazixco.ingr.com
Organization: Dazix
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:25:11 GMT


Hi, 

In the travel BB of Prodigy, somebody asked if it is true that you get 10%
discount on flight tickets charged to MasterCard. Is it true?

thanks, 

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From: mendel@db.toronto.edu (Alberto Mendelzon)
Subject: Re: For people near Toronto....
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Distribution: na
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:55:56 GMT

narayan@aravali.everest.tandem.com (Pankaj Narayan) writes:

>People in Buffalo etc who are in driving distance of Toronto can take advantage
>of the cheaper fares airlines have for international flights from there. Typically,
>the fare will be the same, ( say, US$1000 and CAN$1000) but you save due to the
>currency conversion rate.

Not exactly. The airlines do convert the US$ fare to CAN$,
but they do it using exchange rates that differ from the standard
bank rates. In my experience, they always manage to make the
ticket MORE expensive when bought in Toronto rather than less,
but as the poster said, it's worth checking.

-Alberto Mendelzon.
From: porten@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jeffrey  Porten)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Lufthansa offer of free RT ticket?
Date: 8 Apr 92 07:42:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: netnews.73195
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

A friend told me that he saw an offer of a free RT on Lufthansa with the
purchase of an economy or business ticket in a full-page ad in the NYT.
Subsequent searching shows no evidence of this ever existing.  Anyone have
more info?

Anyone have any suggestions for upcoming travel in September to Berlin from
Philly or New York?

Also, I am interested in frequent trips to Canada from Philly from August-
November (frequent= 4-6).  Do any airlines offer good rates for something
like this?  It would be to six different cities.

Thanks in advance.
--
Jeff Porten, Annenberg School for Communication, UPenn
             Graduate Group in American Civilization, UPenn

As per usual, my opinions are my own, not Penn's, Pugwash's, or anyone else's.
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: kenr@orleans.storage.tandem.com (Ken Rose)
Subject: Re: More about BUMPS
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc, Cupertino CA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 23:56:24 GMT

In article <ru0upINNhfv@agate.berkeley.edu>, spanzer@enzyme.berkeley.edu (Scott Panzer) writes:
>
>The bump vouchers also have the disadvantage of expiring a year or so after
>the date of issue, while the frequent flier awards are good for a few years.
>It seems to me that these bump vouchers are a bit of a scam on the part
>of the airlines since the restrictions seem designed to discourage/prevent
>their actual use.
>
>I would be interested in hearing other people's experiences with getting
>bumped, in particular, what are the restrictions on these tickets for
>particular airlines, and what people did to get around them (if the
>restrictions were really a problem).  Please post, or if you email me
>I will summarize.
>

About 2 years ago I was lucky enough to be on a *heavily* overbooked
United flight from San Francisco to San Diego.  They started by
offering one free round-trip coupon, and a friend and I decided to
get off when they raised it to two!  Even though you can only make
reservations 24 hours in advance, I never had a problem.  And even
though the reservation was supposed to be unchangeable, I was able
to change the departure date on the return flight without a charge.

But now United only seems to be offering a $250 certificate instead
of a round-trip coupon, at least for flights out of SFO.  I'd be
interested in hearing of any airports where they're still offering
round trip coupons.

--Ken
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Ken Rose    (kenr@storage.tandem.com)
The Usual Disclaimer:  Any opinions expressed above are mine alone, not
those of my employer (who is kind enough to allow me Usenet access).
From: autry@sgi.com (Larry Autry)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Carribean Islands Airport Codes
Date: 12 Apr 92 04:30:13 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, St. Louis, MO

The codes follow these excerpts from a previous message.

In a previous message, horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne) writes:
>Also in a previous message, autry@sgistl.stlouis.sgi.com (Larry Autry) writes:
><
><Note that Hawaii is also included.
>
>Thanks.
It was already there, I was kind of surprised to see it.  I noticed it after
I found Canada and Mexico listed.
>
><Puerto Rico and other Caribbean Islands are not.
See below.
>
>We should correct that oversight.  By the way, do other countries (which?)
>have standard airport codes; and, if so, are they internationally recognised?
Yes, (all) and yes.
Perhaps there is an exhaustive list out there (oh no!).  If not, I'll
compose a list from what my Eaasy Sabre Reference Guide lists as "frequently
used".  It will be incomplete since AA doesn't fly EVERYwhere.
>
><	char prio;          /* WMO Priority of station */
><	char wmo[6];        /* WMO Station Id if any */
>
>What is this?
Apparently the c program data description of each element.  The colon (:)
is the field separator.  It appears to be of more use to pilots than to 
travellers, unless knowing your altitude is helpful.
On the flip side, the following data is of more use to travellers than to
pilots.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Carribean Island Airport Codes

Aruba, Neth. Antilles                      AUA
Antigua, W.I.                              ANU
Anguilla, B.W.I.                           AXA
Barbados, Barbados                         BGI
Casa De Campo/LaRomana, Dom.Rep.           LRM
Curacao, Neth. Antilles                    CUR
Fort De France, Martinique                 FDF
Governors Island, Bahamas                  GHB
Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands               GCM
Grenada, W.I.                              GND
Kingston, Jamaica                          KIN
Marsh Harbour, Bahamas                     MHH
Mayaguez, Puerto Rico                      MAZ
Montego Bay, Jamaica                       MBJ
Nassau, Bahamas                            NAS
Ponce, Puerto Rico                         PSE
Port au Prince, Haiti                      PAP
Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago         POS
Providenciales, Turks and Caicos Islands   PLS
Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic           POP
San Juan, Puerto Rico                      SJU
St. Croix, V.I.                            STX
St. Kitts, Leeward Is.                     SKB
St. Lucia, West Indies                     SLU
St. Maarten, Neth. Antilles                SXM
St. Thomas, V.I.                           STT
Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic          SDQ
Treasure Cay, Bahamas                      TCB
Virgin Gorda, B.V.I.                       VIJ

--
Larry Autry
Silicon Graphics, St. Louis
autry@sgi.com