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From: merlyn@digibd.digibd.com (Merlyn LeRoy)
Subject: Re: politicians die!!
Organization: DigiBoard, Incorporated, Eden Prairie,MN
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:16:01 GMT

gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven) writes:
>In article 28086@fuug.fi, an7592@anon.penet.fi (Stefo) writes:
>>Dont you think that any politician pushing legalization of drugs would
>>be  assasinated by organized crime?  

>But politicians ARE organized crime!

They're organized?

---
Merlyn LeRoy
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: df@sdf.lonestar.org (daniel finster)
Subject: Re: Acid Music (sorry to net.vets)
Organization: sdf public access unix -- Dallas, Tx. 214-436-3281
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:25:30 GMT

In article <891034d.25.727740622@axe.acadiau.ca> 891034d@axe.acadiau.ca (PETER DEARMAN) writes:
>Of course Floyd.  But I'm pretty into noise bands.  I've had my mind blown 

Why is it _ALWAYS_ Pink Floyd?  I notice you get more creative later down
in your post, but Floyd gets so _BORING_!  (I know, i used to listen to
them all the time, practically nothing else, i just got sick of them)
you say you are pretty into 'noise' bands.. let's see here:

>before by Husker Du's album, Zen Arcade.  Other albums that reallyt did it 
>for me are Sonic Youth (most anything but especially Daydream Nation, and 
>the Ciccone Youth Whitey Album), Butthole Surfers (anything), Big Black (
>Songs About Fucking).

Old Sonic Youth is ok, but i wouldnt' really consider them a 'noise' band,
butthole butthole are REAL good (one of my favorites) but i wouldn't
consider them a 'noise' band either.  I've heard of Big Black 
and Husker Du, but have never eard their stuff.  *REAL* noise is *REALLY*
good on marijuana/acid, etc.. for the adventurous, try to find some of the
following:  (if you can't, mail me, i can point you to places to find it)
(in no particular order)

Crash Worship ADRV  (not true noise, but real good)
the Swans (_OLD_ swans though, new stuff is very lightweight, non-noisy,
  try to find _Filth_ and _Body to Body, Job to Job_ by them, both REAL good)
Hanatrash
the Gerogerigegege
Einstuerzende Neubauten
Masonna (REALLY good!, try and find _Shinsen na Clitoris_)
Controlled Bleeding
Throbbing Gristle  (most of the time when asked what my favorite #1 band
  is, I am in a TG mood.  Sometimes i'm not though..  but they are more
  consistently my favorite than any other.  The Founding Fathers of 
  Industrial Noise)
KK Null
Belt (good ambient stuff, but some this bands stuff is SCARY, even when
  straight.. I am not brave enough yet to try listening to this on acid)
the Boredoms (kindof Butthole Surfers-ish, but more weird)
Genbaku Onanies

.. theres lots more, this is just from memory.  I'd enjoy hearing any reports
anyone has about their experiences on this music, straight or high.  

>There is also lots of techno that is so complicated that it is impossible to 
>not be overwhelmed by.  I don't like techno that much normally though.  Al 
>Jorgenson is in several techno bands that do the trick.

I think (from what i've heard of his stuff) that Al was best on _Rabies_
by Skinny Puppy, which he helped on alot (this is also my favorie Skinny
Puppy album).  

Plant your seeds.
-- 
daniel finster   df@sdf.lonestar.org  ...!seas.smu.edu!letni!sdf!df
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From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Scraping a pipe
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:53:46 GMT

In article <396.16.uupcb@digund.uucp>, loki.trickster@digund.uucp (Loki Trickster)  writes:
>The stuff that's left in the pipe after you smoke is there for a good
>reason - it won't burn.   I've never gotten any sort of buzz out of
>firing the residue.

If whether something burned was only dependant on what substance it was,
your wooden pipe would go up in flames the first time you used it.  A lot of
things will burn only if you increase the surface area (which happens when
you scrape).  

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
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From: oseiler@nyx.cs.du.edu (Oliver Seiler)
Subject: Re: Seed Starting Problems
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 23:41:23 GMT


I tried doing this (growing a pot plant - just 'cause I've got a green
thumb and my roommate had some seeds) once, and it was really easy. Just
put some soil in a pot, put the seed about an inch down, and poured water
on it... Mind you I wasn't trying for *quality* growing... I just wanted
to add some green to my bedroom. It sprouted in about a week, and grew to
about a foot high before I got rid of it...

-Oliver


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From: maxwell@deep-13.gizmo.com
Subject: Re: Marijuana/asthma
Organization: Gizmonics Institute Inc.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 08:43:53 GMT
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In article <aX12XB1w165w@cyberden.sf.ca.us>, tailspin@cyberden.sf.ca.us writes:
> Not true that Marijuana helps cure asthma. I had a classmate that died 
> from an induced asthma attack from a bong hit. How can it possibly help 
> cure asthma?

Please provide us w/ your classmate's name, sex, age, location and date of 
death.

r.m
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From: string@wrs.com (String)
Subject: Re: groovey tunes
Organization: bhs inc.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:58:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.111110.10227@iscsvax.uni.edu> koch7243@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>
>
>
>     I want to know what album people like to listen to stoned.  I know that it

Even if you think you hate the Grateful Dead, give Creamed Corn a
listen. One of the many Butthole Surfers studio albums that stands on its own as
an excellent work.


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From: mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Michael J Maryo (U))
Subject: Re: YOU FUCKERS
Organization: Univ. of Dayton, School of Engineering
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:54:00 GMT
Summary: Thank you! 

In article <1993Jan28.052149.2592@nmsu.edu> nwoodard@dante.nmsu.edu (WOODARD) writes:
>I am getting sick of hearing all you druggies encouring kids to use
>drugs. Its bad enough that you are using crack and heroin, cousting us
>honest taxpayers billions in crime and medicine. But you want to ruin
>the future of our kids as well!
>
>There is obviously one solution to you drug f**kups. We need to throw
>anyone caught using drugs out of the country. Revoke all citizenship,
>and forbid one step back into this country. If you do return, punish
>by death. (Lethal injection - how appropriate)
>
>This country is going to hell. And it is all you f**kers fault!
>
>
>
>Drug Free and PROUD of it.

	Well, I guess this is really appropriate.  We sit around and flame the
gov't for telling everyone NOT to do drugs, as well as flame them for sending
people to jail for using them.  It's only natural that someone flame us. 
Maybe we deserve...then again maybe NOT.
	First off, I don't think anyone really encourages KIDS to do drugs.  I
would probably shoot my little brothers and sister if I caught them doing
crack or heroin or something hard.  NO one is encouraging KIDS to use drugs.
Most people on this newsgroup seem to just communicate ideas to others about
drugs and drug use.  This way all of us are somewhat more educated and are less
likely to end up killing ourselves.                      
	Well, our country is going to hell, but not because of drugs.  This
country (and the world) is going to hell because the economy sucks.  I believe
that drugs has very little to do with the fact that the world is falling
apart.  If the gov't would stop spending tons of money on the WoD effort, a
lot of money could be spent on education and homeless, etc, etc, etc... 
	If you don't want to use drugs, DON'T, by no means.  But there are some
very successful people in the world who do.  I would say that almost all of us
here in this newsgroup are very intelligent.  Obviously we are, because all
of us are probably in either College or a nice job that gives access to 
internet.  Look at Clinton.... Mr. "I didn't inhale" himself.  I'm sure he
has been around marijuana MANY times, and he is our president!  Get a life
pal...

Mike Maryo  mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu

P.S.  Flame me if you wish...but back up some of your shit before flaming us.
Amen!
From: petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jim Petersen)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Acid Music (sorry to net.vets)
Date: 27 Jan 93 08:27:00 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <1k4s7eINNj8b@calvin.usc.edu> alves@calvin.usc.edu (William Alves) writes:
>It's been pointed out before that this thread often becomes just a list
>of what each person likes. Of course this is subjective, but I am
>interested in people's recommendations on a specific genre: Psychedelic
>Music.
>
>Now, I do NOT mean Grateful Dead-type acid rock over blues progressions;
>I do NOT mean techno, noise music, industrial, etc. though I have nothing
>against those genres. The music I am thinking of was produced mainly
>between, say, 1966 and 1974. It usually has kaleidoscopic mixes of real
>sounds, often people speaking, tape loops, sudden changes in mood, weird
>effects, psychedelic lyrics.
>

Well, of course one mustn't forget the first Pink Floyd album--
Piper at the Gates of Dawn. It's one of the great psyechdelic
albums of all time.

Also, you could check into the Dukes of Stratosphear, who have a
very psychedelic (a self-conscious send-up of psyechdelia actually,
but the tunes are catchy and it's fun listening) EP called
25 O'Clock, and a somewhat less psychedelic album called... something
else. Then there is a CD which has both the ep and the album, called
something silly like Chocolate Marshmallow Alarm Clock or somesuch.
There's only one Dukes of Stratosphear CD so you'll know it when
you see it...  I have the CD and it's fun to listen to some times.
Oh, the Dukes are actually the English pop group XTC in disguise...

(I've always wondered about XTC.... were they ahead of their time
by naming themselves after MDMA way back in 1978, or is their name
simply a reference to the emotion?)
-- 
_____________________________________________________________________
 ...More than just ashes                                 Jim Petersen
When your dreams come true               petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
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From: cklausme@jarthur.claremont.edu (Chris Klausmeier)
Subject: Re: politicians die!!
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:44:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.232628.28086@fuug.fi> an7592@anon.penet.fi (Stefo)
writes:

# Dont you think that any politician pushing legalization of drugs would
# be  assasinated by organized crime?  

Not only criminals profit from the illegality of drugs.  Law enforcement
agents and prosecuting attorneys benefit as well as the pharmaceutical
industry.  Tobacco and alcohol companies also profit from the fact that
pot, cocaine, and others are illegal, since the public will stay addicted to
THEIR drugs.  It wouldn't surprise me if any of these groups would resort to
violence to stop an effective politician who advocates the legalization of
drugs.

-- Chris
From: ron@cs.tamu.edu (Ron J Theriault)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Marijuana/asthma
Date: 21 Jan 1993 23:34:19 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Texas A&M University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: dsls4.cs.tamu.edu

In article <DFNcXB1w165w@floor.uucp.risc.net>, hp@floor.uucp.risc.net (High Priest) writes:
|> I have heard and read in this newsgroup that marijuana can cause some 
|> relief to asthma sufferers. I mentioned this to someone else, and he flat 
|> out called it false, and pretty much said I don't know what I'm talking 
|> about.
|> I realize there are many other better drugs to deal with asthma, but my 
|> question is not about them, so I would appreciate not being told about 
|> them.
|> Can smoking marijuana help asthma sufferers, and if so, how?

Yes, It can, but the results from person to person are highly
variable.  In fact, joints were sold in this country by a 
reputable pharmecuticals company at the turn of this century
for asthma sufferers. 
This is documented by Dr. Andrew Weil.  Most doctors then did not
want to deal with the high variability of response from person to 
person, which is probably why the use died out.  Doctors 
preferred a drug with consistent effects, even if less beneficial,
to one with inconsistent effects.
-- 
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From: locklin@titan.ucs.umass.edu (SCOTT C LOCKLIN)
Subject: Re: rush?
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:05:56 GMT
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In article <1k16smINN8ge@CS.UTK.EDU> dfoster@cs.utk.edu (D. Slade Foster) writes:
>In article <1993Jan23.183408.717@black.clarku.edu> sklejmon@black.clarku.edu (Shawn D Klejmont) writes:
>>	Forgive me for possible redundancy, I haven't read this group for
>>a while.  Can anyone offer some info about this substance?  It's a liquid 
>>inhalent that smells like model glue, called "rush" around here. Anyone?
>>
>>thanks,
>>shawn
>
>
>From what I understand, "rush" is illegal in all 50 states now.  I
>know that it is impossible to find, anyways.  

I've seen it advertised in mags & in the local head shop (butyl nitrate)...
Not that I use the stuff. Shit will give one the mother of all headaches.

>Try ethyl...it can be
>found at most adult book stores, etc. but its effects are better,

What is ethyl?

>and more intense.  Spray it on your sleeve, be the life of parties.

-Scott





























Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: pnhrab00@nx16.mik.uky.edu (Peter N. Hrabak)
Subject: LSD in the CIA??
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:38:36 GMT

I've heard about the CIA experiments with LSD on fellow agents (very  
free form), but has anyone else?  Since I'm new to this group, I'm  
not sure if the subject has been covered.  If it's of interest, I'll  
post the info that I know...

-Stinky Pete


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From: malcolm@cltr.uq.oz.au (Malcolm Gillies)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Codeine and 222's
Date: 20 Jan 93 11:50:57 GMT
Organization: Centre for Language Teaching and Research, Uni of Queensland, AUSTRALIA.

Dave_Watson@mindlink.bc.ca (Dave Watson) writes:


>Is there any simple way of extracting the 8mg of codeine out of over the
>counter (In Canada) 222's, which also contain 15 mg caffeine and around 325
>mg of either ASA or Acetaminophen?   If it's of chemical importance (or means
>anything at all), the desired portion of this mixture is the codeine
>phosphate component, although I could bear the caffeine as well.  It's that
>extra and unneccesary headache remedy that must go.

The short answer is no, there is no simple way. There are ways which
would work quite effectively, such as chromatography, but they are
not all that simple. In Australia, it is possible to buy tablets
OTC which contain, for example 9mg codeine phosphate and 250mg
asprin. These would be much easier to extract the codeine from
since it is the only base present. I have heard that such a
separation has been popular in New Zealand, where more traditional
substances are difficult to obtain or very expensive; the crude
illicit codeine is marketed under the name "Home-bake".
IMHO the recreational value of large doses of codeine (e.g. 175 mg)
is marginally greater than the side-effects.

Jeremy
jeremy@rsc3.anu.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: YOU FUCKERS
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Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 02:12:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.052149.2592@nmsu.edu> nwoodard@dante.nmsu.edu (WOOD
RD) writes:
>I am getting sick of hearing all you druggies encouring kids to use
>drugs. Its bad enough that you are using crack and heroin, cousting us
>honest taxpayers billions in crime and medicine. But you want to ruin
>the future of our kids as well!
>
>There is obviously one solution to you drug f**kups. We need to throw
>anyone caught using drugs out of the country. Revoke all citizenship,
>and forbid one step back into this country. If you do return, punish
>by death. (Lethal injection - how appropriate)
>
>This country is going to hell. And it is all you f**kers fault!
>
>
>
>Drug Free and PROUD of it.



 Has there been a coup?

St. Anthony

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: an2531@anon.penet.fi (/dev/high)
Subject: Re: Marijuana and Vitamin C synergy?
Organization: Anonymous contact service
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 00:32:29 GMT


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In article <--190193015440@stiles-kstar-node.net.yale.edu> - (Javi) writes:

#   on the topic of synergy, I'd like to add a question, what other
# substances do add or alter a marijuana high? (i.e. alcohol, coffee,
# nicotine...)

cklausme@jarthur.claremont.edu (Chris Klausmeier) asks about hemp
and ephedrine.

A FOAF tried chopping up one pill (25 mg) and put in the bong bowl
with some green sticky prior to puffing. (He said) it tasted very
weirdly sweet, gave him a very minor lift when it was in the lungs -
a VERY week imitation of a bowl with CO. (He) tripped on the fact that
he was even trying this tho, and it kinda ruined it, worried about
what this shit would do to him. It was a different type of buzz,
definitely not as good as hemp by itself. But he does REALLY enjoy
taking about 4 or 5 ephedrines at one time (that hair tingling
feeling).

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From: kkruse@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Korey J. Kruse)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Fed Drug Laws RE: LSD
Date: 21 Jan 1993 18:08:18 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
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dpotosky@dewey.NMSU.Edu (David Potosky) writes:

>Maybe some wiser person on the net can enlighten us as to the true penalties  
>for lsd.
>As I understand it it is 10 years for a gram or more of LSD (paper weight  
>included) but you can get around this by having it broken up for  
>distribution....this sounds absurd.
>Will someone comment on this and give us the the facts? 

I believe the law congress passed went something along these lines:

"Possesion of 1 gram or more of a substance that contains a mixture
including LSD is subject to a minumum penalty of 5 years in federal
prison with no parole."

I am not sure if possession of 2 grams necessarily implies 10 years or
not.   As most people who read alt.drugs know this is a very stupid law.
It ends up punishing small time dealers while letting the big time LSD
producers/dealers get away with less than the minumum.    Small time
dealers that put their acid on paper are subject to the penalty while
a dealer who keeps his .999 gram of liquid lsd is not subject to the
law.   So a guy with a potential 5,000-12,000 hits of acid in 80-200
microgram range can actually serve no time at all in prison if the judge
so rules (not likely..but possible),  but someone with 3 hits of acid
that was put on sugar cubes has an automatic 5 years...no lawyer or
judge can even help him now that the supreme court ruled that if
congress wrote the law that way then thats the way they meant it.  Only
2 justices dissented I believe so it seems we are stuck with this for
a while.

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: C599143@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Matthew Q Keeler de la Mancha)
Subject: Re: Drug Laws...
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 17:11:05 CST

>>In California, I have heard (from those who've been busted) that possessing
>>over 10 hits of LSD is automatically considered "intent to sell." And
>>"intent to sell" LSD is a mandatory manslaughter charge.
>Holy shit! ANyone, is this about LSD really true??? Damn, I had heard that you
>would only go to Jail for drug possession, and the sentence is determined on
>the weight of the drug, (so if you had LSD on heavier paper, it would be more
>time) or in cube form you would get more time in Jail...that seems fucked, but
>hell..I geuss there SHOULD be a difference in sentences for someone with a
>HUNDRED hits compared to one, but thenagain someone could have a 5 hit sugar
>cube of acid, and get more time then someone with 100 hits on
>paper...hmm...isn't our legal system fucked..
 
You know, if I ever get real bored and feel like throwing in the towell
and spending the rest of my life in jail, I think I'll just put a hit of
acid on a bowling ball and walk into the police station and say "here you
go boys... the bust of a lifetime!"
 
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Subject: Re: Caffine Depressant?
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:43:29 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <C19IJw.8Kn@wm.estec.esa.nl> JOLEARY@ESTWM0.DNET.ESTEC.ESA.NL writes:
>
>Why does alcohol, in moderate amounts, act as a stimulant for many people?

    It is a sudden calorie boost, but more importantly, its inhibition of
higher cortical function causes many people to feel energized.
-- 
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     Howard Black                             cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu
     Department of Chemistry                  Eastern Illinois Univ.
From: loki.trickster@digund.uucp (Loki Trickster) 
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: OK, it time to put yo
Date: 23 Jan 93 20:33:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Digital Underground - PRIVATE
Reply-To: loki.trickster@digund.uucp (Loki Trickster) 

 >liam%alehaus@brewich.hou.tx.us
 >Origin: The Alehaus -- Houston, TX --
 >     If you don't vote....DON'T BITCH
 >                                -unknown

If you can't bitch ... DON'T VOTE!!!

                      -Loki the Dyslexic Trickster
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