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Original-From: Ken Wolman <mhwpa!ktw>
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 08:12:20 EST
From:         ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM
Subject:      Re: Santa Claus

> Unlike Nancy, who spilled the beans to Susan herself, *my* daughter had
> the unpleasant truth delivered by her first grade teacher, who not only
> told the class there was no Santa, but that there was no tooth fairy, no
> Easter bunny, and no telling what else.  This mother was in overdrive big
> time when I learned this.

Oh shit....  Doris Ann, tell me it ain't so....  You mean?...  Oh no.
All my roses you have riven away, and all my laurels....  Now this.
How SHALL I survive?
:-)
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 20:49:59 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Croning again
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> For those crones, and those about to be, Germaine Greer has a new book

Funny timing.  About the same time Karen was writing this, I was writing
my note about driving a red Civic Sol to my croning.

> to anyone interested in women's issues.  They do some strange PC things
> (they trashed a friend of mine because she isn't black but they thought
> she was), but overall it's quite worthwhile.

I'm confused.  Did they trash her because they thought she was black or
because she isn't black?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Sun, 27 Dec 1992 21:43:19 -0500
From:         Joan Boorstein <jboor@MOTE.CS.UMB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Goofing off Saturday
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dan the cyclops says:

>   i finished my xmas shopping on monday last....and we haven't been to the
> mall since then....thank god....

Somehow I was able to complete all my shopping without stepping into a mall
and was glad of it

Dan, glad to read your postings -- must mean that you are feeling better --
hope your vision continues to improve

Joan
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Date:         Sun, 3 Jan 1993 17:01:22 EST
From:         ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM
Subject:      Re: buffalo did it

> well, amazing things DO happen....they won in OT....of course Houston
> fans can take Natalie-like consolation....in the one touchdown that shouldn't
> have counted since the guy was out before he caught the ball...
>
> cyclops

It was a gorgeous game: outside of the Giants squeaker a few years ago
against Buffalo at the Superbowl, the most exciting game I can
remember.

So who will Buffalo--the Minnesota Vikings of the Nineties--lose to in
the Superbowl THIS year?

Ken
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From:         ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU
Subject:      Re: Deep beliefs
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Posted on 23 Dec 1992 at 08:37:23 by Aaron L Dickey
>Sometime I wonder if all the poor "sexually harrassed" women of this world
>don't actually know how good they've got it.

This is such bullshit.  Your dichotomy of the amazingly attractive/unattractive
person is overly simplistic.  Victims of sexual assault/harassment are
not generally in the former category.  The issues are power and availability,
not attractiveness.  (That is what is meant by 'rape is not about sex'.)

>The moral here is: Sexual harrassment works both ways, and I'm getting a

It amuses me that men don't think that women know this.  And it also amuses
me that men feel very threatened whenever the discussion comes up.  My
comments to Steve (which I guess he won't read, because he set nomail)
were specifically meant for him.  Hmmm...maybe I'll spend dinner at Emily's
staring at his crotch as an experiment....

Karen
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From:         Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik <amadeus@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Susan's Entertainment Question
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Broderick Crawford starred in Highway Patrol.

History please...

-----Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik-------------------------------*<:-)-------------
"Queens never make bargains."  -- The Red Queen, _Through the Looking Glass_
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Date:         Sat, 26 Dec 1992 11:02:35 EST
From:         ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM
Subject:      Re: Camillemania

>         Limbaugh, Clay, and Paglia have all figured out that making
> people angry at you gets you attention, lectures, TV shows, money, etc.
> Their goal seems to be making liberals angry, not conducting any sort
> of rational argument, and it's paying off big time.  In this respect
> they resemble people who start network flame wars for fun (can you say
> GS?).

"Fie, there is no such man!  It is impossible."

                                Iago to Emilia, _Othello_, IV.ii
:-)

Ken
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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:55:14 EST
From:         Tony Harminc <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject: Re: Follow-up to ALD's TP question
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Posted on 31 Dec 1992 at 14:22:58 by Natalie Maynor

>> like.  Why, you might as well call Tupelo the "Pittsburgh of Northeast
>> Mississippi."
>
>No, Tupelo is the Toronto of Northeast Mississippi.

Toronto, NSW I trust ?

Tony H.
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: Electronic Literacy
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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 21:26:45 GMT

In article <9301012105.AA05536@rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk> Graham Toal <gtoal%rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk%kate.ibmpcug.co.uk@KATE.IBMPCUG.CO.UK> writes:

>Because 1) you feel stupid talking to your computer and 2) your workmates
>get pissed off with it damn quick.  I know, I've been there.

	Not on Star Trek they don't, Graham!  Everyone has their own
office.  And computers are their friend.






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Date:         Fri, 1 Jan 1993 11:48:48 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      More songs about buildings and food
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I've been <cleaning>. This pisses GT off, I'm afraid.

Brought over a new handy-dandy voltage converter, plugged in hair dryer,
and got precisely 30 secs of warm air out of it before the converter
exploded in a ball of flame and a loud pop. Bad smell followed.

Met Adrian, who runs the IBM pc users group here. Very smart, very witty,
very gone. He moves to the US in a few weeks. Smart, as I said.

Picadilly Circus. Tourists. Pushing. Abominable prices. Nelson's column. A
glimpse of Buckingham and Westminster through some trees and the promise
of a closer view later.

England is confounding..GT owns a sparcstation yet carries a skeleton key
on his chain, and it is not an ornament. There's this constant butting up
against the past with the future. I haven't yet had a good sense of what
present is here.

I can't believe ow many Indians live here. They even run the Chinese
restaurants.

More later,
-abh
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In a previous article, Graham Toal () says:

>:England is confounding..GT owns a sparcstation yet carries a skeleton key
>:on his chain, and it is not an ornament. There's this constant butting up
>
>Bandwidth doesn't know what a skeleton key is.  She's talking about a
>key for a mortice lock, not a master key.
>
Well, they're both old.:-)  I have a few of those old-style keys hanging
around for no good reason, if you're talking about the kind of key I'm talking
about...we might have a faux ami situation going.  I also have a master key to
a local building, which is a relatively new lock.:-)  Either way, some
Texan couldn't be expected to know which is what.....  

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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Nerve of steel
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>:If someone isn't connected to the Emergency Listserver, does that mean that
>:that person isn't a BWP?

>No, it just means that that person didn't bend over far enough to kiss bwp's
>ass.  You're not missing anything.

>G

        When I use the ELS, the recipients are those addresses I'm committed to
        memory.  I know at least one of -abh's, but none of Graham's multitude
        have ever stuck in my brain.

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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: For Bayla!
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:13:26 GMT

In article <WORDS-L%92122908163854@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078" <DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu> writes:
>*** Resending note of 12/28/92 20:31

>Please be aware that the qualifier "in Florida" is not really necessary
>as the Tampa Bay Bucs have brought world-wide fame and recognition to
>this area!  Now, who's running this Tampa freenet?  Wonder if we are
>with our new mighty machine ...which so far seems to be running just great!

	What are the Tampa Bay Bucs?  Only Kidding. Football, right?  
I was in New England Comics with my most excellent sweetie (yes, you
can be revolted by that phrase) on Sunday and the poor Pats were 
actually winning against some Florida team.  Meanwhile, the
sportscasters were coming up with some of the most obscure and
outlandish statistics I have *ever* heard.

	"Yes, Bob.  And did you know that this is only the third game
this team has ever played in below-freezing weather?"

	"That's right, Al.  And they lost two of those games.  I think
the weather is really going to affect the game."

	"OH, and he just missed the pass!  Look at those shadows on
the field, Bob -- the cold weather is really taking its toll."

	WHERE on God's green earth do they come up with these
factoids?  And does *anybody* really care?  I really heard this -- I'm
not making this up.



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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:40:45 +0100
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Deep beliefs
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              22 Dec 92 11:27:00 -0500. <9212221628.AA21992@sics.se>

  Marty suggests:

  >It appears to me that Montgomery's objection to mockery as a discursive
  >technique reflects his belief that it is an inefficient means.

  That may be, but it doesn't appear to capture the essence of his objection
to mockery, since he does not object to such discursive techniques as
labeling the deeply held beliefs of other people revolting and contemptible.
It is of course possible that he does in fact take the view that labeling
the deeply held beliefs of other people revolting and contemptible is a
more efficient means of altering their opinion, in which case his
argument will become a lot clearer, but not, I think, very realistic.
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From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Copacetic
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  >(Last time we discussed this half the folks said it should be spelt
  >with an 's'.)
  >Look in the archives for the derivation.  I've forgotten.  Black slang
  >I think.

  Wentworth & Flexner give the spellings copacetic, copesetic, kopasetic,
kopesetic, kopasetee, kopesetee. They also say that it is from the Yiddish.
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> Subject: Silence...
>
> Hello?  Has the listserv suddenly died?
>                         o/.\____/
>          -- Bernard      \______|
>                          / \  / \

I don't know.  Maybe everyone else is mourning in the morning also.  These
two weeks of vacation have been heavenly.  Now I have to psych myself into
thinking *positively* about getting up in the middle of the night in order
to get ready to go to w-w-w-work.
doris
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From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Touchtones and Alternative Librarians
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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 01:52:23 GMT

In article <1hai8lINNag6@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu writes:
:
:In a previous article, gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK (Graham Toal) says:
:
:>: >: Nethead squared (or is that cubed.. ?)
:>: >
:>: >Squared.  Everybody knows it's AMERICA^3.
:>: >
:>: Can't be - I've never been square[d].  Or Cubed, for that matter.
:>: I have been logged, though, both in and out.:-)
:>
:>How about square-rooted?
:>
:Nope - my hair roots are round, and my ethnic "roots" are too mixed up
:to be considered square. I'm only square-rooted in your imagination.<nudge
:nudge>

I don't have that good an imagination.

Say Carolyn, *which* attributes did you think you had in common
with the Wombat?

G
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Comments:     Originally-From: alester%farpost.chi.il.us@idbsu.idbsu.edu (Andy
              Lester)
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      wordslers
Comments: To: All fellow wordslers <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>,
          andy lester <alester@farpost.chi.il.us>

well, in case the from doesn't show on your system, this is from my son,
andy, the computer programmer.  he now has his own system on the nets and
his address is   alester@farpost.chi.il.us

anyone interested will hopefully send him some mail and tell him the answer
to the first two sentences below.

the rest of it refers  to him going back to the far north suburbs of chicago
to appear in his mother's wedding today (probably as we speak....who knows,
ididn't get invited...   o-)    )

for those who don't know, he's 25, a computer programmer for a library software
place, working on cdrom applications, is into alternative music, is learning
to play the bass, etc.

dan
----------------------------Original message----------------------------

So what IS this Words List, anyway?  I understand what the mailing list is, but
what do you talk about?

It's 2am.  I'm driving back up to Gurnee.  Wedding tomorrow.  I'm not dumb
enough to think I'd wake up on time.... :-)

Love,
Andy
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From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Hohoho
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  >y'know, thinking of Torkel & his translation - he must be pruning an awful
  >lot of the descriptions & explanations out when he translates something -
  >I bet the 'dirty rice' is condensed into two or three words rather than
  >the complete recipes we've had here...

  "Dirty rice" will probably just become "rice", unless I can find some
suitable adjective, which is unlikely. In many cases, I need to know the
precise meaning of a term not because it affects the translation, but just
to be sure that I haven't missed anything. It's an unfortunate fact that a
translator has to understand the stuff he is translating. Many translators,
to be sure, blithely disregard this principle.
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From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: Happy New Year!
              2 Jan 1993 11:38:54 EST from <R3EJD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>

>I hope that everyone has a happy and prosperous 1993.

   To be assured of this, Evelyn, you have to have eaten salt
   pork and black-eyed peas yesterday!

   brad
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 08:47:49 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      New Gif!
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You can now see Peter Montgomery in living color.  Another sexy, bearded
WORDS-Ler.  Ftp to ftp.msstate.edu or isis.msstate.edu or ra.msstate.edu,
cd to docs/words-l/Gifs, specify binary, and get peter.gif.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Deep beliefs
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        I notice that you have removed the context of my statement above, which
        had to do with FANATICS, and you have not responded to my request for
        a definition, it being a term which you introduced.

        That, of course, is your privilege. I rather wonder, however, if we
        mean the same things by DEPTH. If you mean merely a strong emotional
        attachment, then I don't think we're in the same ball park.

I should WARN you that RANDOM use of capitals is a classic sign of
LUNACY or a RELIGIOUS NUT on the nets.  Are you about to sell us a
secret formula for making FUEL THAT LASTS FOREVER by any chance?

G
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Subject:      Re: Camillemania

> Posted on 28 Dec 1992 at 23:31:55 by ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM
> >Yeah, by default, after Carolyn Heilbrun was driven out of Columbia.
>
> More about this, please....this is the first I have heard of this.
>
> Karen

Old stuff.  There was an article about Heilbrun in the NY Times
Magazine back in November, I think.  She and Ann Douglas were the only
tenured women on the Graduate Faculty in English at Columbia, and as I
remember it, Heilbrun felt that she was slighted by advisors funneling
the best graduate students away from her, or those students being
treated like pariahs by the other members of the Graduate Faculty.
She was screwed on office space and support staff, whereas Edward
Said--Columbia's other big drawing-card--got anything he wanted.  It
gets worse, but I can't remember the details.
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In a previous article, rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU (Rashmi) says:

>> it the minute it hits the cheese or the sauce. [depends on how you build a
>> pizza]  What's worse than hamburger?  Nothing, unless it's anchovies.
>
>No, no, anchovies rank next to mushrooms which are the absolute pits.  <yech>.
>I once picked out all the mushroom bits off of a slice (that was the only one
>available and I was starving) - believe me, it's not an easy task.
>
I love mushroom pizza!  I guess it's all in what you're raised with; there are
probably some things you'd add to a pizza without a second's thought, that a
lot of wordslers would use as grounds to trash the whole pizza.  I've eaten
feta cheese on pizza before, and liked it, for instance.  I doubt some folks
in here would even try the stuff.[curdled sheep's milk, anyone?]

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From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Nappy
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              26 Dec 92 00:55:37 +0100. <9212252357.AA23500@sics.se>

  Karen got this right away! And I see now that it occurs in Wentworth &
Flexner:

        nappy [derog.] A Negro. 1956: "To call a man *nappy* is to say
        his hair is kinky - a real insult." S. Longstreet, The Real
        Jazz Old and New, 150.

  So this will become "hans krulliga huvud".
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CMS 8
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              3 Jan 1993 00:05:05 EST from <BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU>

On Sun, 3 Jan 1993 00:05:05 EST <BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU> said:
>Another cavil about this new version of VM/CMS mail: it adds another
>whole layer to disengaging.  There's a message now that says "Termination
>in progress. Please wait."  I didn't have to wait before.
>
   It is NOT vm/cms mail.....it IS RiceMail.....as noted, writtten by
Richard at Rice.....there ARE other mailers for vm/cms.....though anyone
with a brain doesn't use them....

cyclops
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From:         Fizzy the Fribble
              <fribble%rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk@KATE.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: This ere t-shirt
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              Harwell" at Jan 1, 93 5:02 pm

Anne Harwell writes...
>
> Who *is* this poseur?!@#!?!@#
>

Anne - how many high-profile English members of this list do you know?

Fiz.
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