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From: bonnetf@APO.ESIEE.FR (Frank Bonnet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Cannot invol M2652SA FUJITSU disk
Date: 26 Aug 92 10:24:18 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Hi,

I'm in trouble involing a FUJITSU 2.0 Gb because invol don't
know it ...

The error message is always the same :

Drive type -- 7AE -- is unrecognized by the disk driver.
Unable to read disk parameters from pv label - unrecognized drive id (OS/disk manager)

I've tried to enter manually the parameters of this disk without any success.

It has been possible to format it on one of our HP720 running under HP-UX 8.07.

If it could help any "invol guru", see below the parameters that I put into 
the "/etc/disktab" file.

###############################################
#
#  DISK : FUJITSU M2652SA (2 Gb)
#
###############################################
#
M2652SA|FUJITSU_M2652SA|FUJITSU_M2652SA_noswap|M2652SA_noswap:\
        :no swap or boot:ns#47:nt#20:nc#1944:\
        :s0#1704982:b0#8192:f0#1024:\
        :se#1024:rm#5400:
###############################################

Is there a new release of the "invol" utility that support this type
of disk ???   ( exact type is : M2652SA).

We are running 10.4 domain_os.

Thanks a lot for any help, we NEED that disk for our apollo network .

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From: goldfish@CYCLONE.SBI.COM (P. Goldsmith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: Strange packaging technique
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:40:49 GMT
Organization: The Internet

(Meinhard E. Mayer writes)
 > 
 > In article <BtzApG.1o1@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> gordon@maxwell.uwaterloo.ca (Gordon R. Strachan) writes:
 > 
 > 
 >    The one I always like is the packing lists that list everything in the box
 >    including the packing list itself!  It even has its own HP part number.  HP
 >    paper work, you gotta love it! :-)
 > 
 > That means that HP-Shipping is properly tail-recursive.

My favourite is the loopback connector for my IBM laser printer video
interface:

	The part consists of a DB15 connector with some wires jumpered back,
	to allow testing the interface.

	It only has a few wires in it and would happily withstand the weight
	of a large truck.

	I called up IBM service and asked them for the jumpering so that I
	could build one, but was told that they didn't know the configuration
	ansd the part was special enough that the Montreal service dept.
	didn't own one, even if they could test the jumpers.  

	I ordered this part (a DB15 with a housing) for $45.00 plus shipping.
	The operator agreed to waive the $55.00 minimum shipping charge when
	I suggested that I visit their office to pick the thing up.  It seems
	that there is a $60.00 "rush" charge for pickups.

	Fourty five dollars later, I got my plug by regular post (no shipping
	charge; There are some reasonable people around)

	The DB15 with housing was in a clear blisterpack with a tag containing
	the same info on it as the visible housing.  This was in a (clear)
	plastic bag with a label (containing the same information as the
	blisterpack and the housing).

	The plastic bag was in a paper bag stapled to the invoice.

	The paper bag was wrapped in bubble-pack.

	The bubble-pack was in a sea of styrofoam peanuts in a shoebox sized
	cardboard carton with a plethora of labels, numbers and routing codes
	taped to it.


	... all this for a DB15 in a housing which I could have made myself
	if they would only provide the pinouts. ...

I saved the box ... :-)  figured I should get my money's worth ... 


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		so many managers ... so little time ...
From: cprince@mathcs.emory.edu (Chea Prince)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: rgb monitors
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:30:57 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS

has anyone ever successfully connected an amiga 2500/30
to any one of the following monitors:

     hitachi 70J3 (was connected to an apollo DN460)
     MassComp (circa 1985--no model designation)
     apollo DN550

any specs on these woould be appreciated--thanks

chea  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: hecke@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Peter M. Hecke)
Subject: 3rd Party Hard Disks for Apollo's
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 20:34:24 GMT

I am interested in adding non-HP 1.3 Gbyte hard drives to a
HP/Apollo 425t, 425s, and DN10000 workstations.  I am looking
for non-HP disks in order to keep the cost of the disks down.

The 425t has two 200 MByte internal drives, so I plan to buy
an HP model 660D Mass Storage System.  I would then buy a 1.3
GByte drive and install it into the 660D.

The 425s was purchased with a 1.3 GByte (HP) disk and I wish
to install another disk.

The DN10000 has one 697 Mbyte internal drive and I would like
to add a 1.3 GByte drive onto the single controller.

My questions are as follows:

  1.  What non-HP 1.3 GByte drives are compatible with the
      above mentioned machines and configurations?

  2.  What hardware (ie: screws, mounts, etc) if any do I
      need to mount the drives?

  3.  Should I expect any compatibility problems between the
      HP and non-HP hardware?

  4.  What 3rd party vendors sell hard disk upgrades for the
      above mentioned Apollo's?

  5.  Is there anyone out there in net land that has had
      some experience with adding disks to their Apollo's?


Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance...

-- 
Peter Hecke, Sunnyvale, CA
hecke@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com
From: davidy@HWCAE.AZ.HONEYWELL.COM (David Young -davidy K26E2 x2968)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: IPC's in Apollo DOMAIN?
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:03:22 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

** dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!cs.utexas.edu!torn!cunews!nrcnet0!bnrgate!bcrka451!norm@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Norm MacNeil) on 26 Aug 92 04:43:21 GMT
** in [IPC's in Apollo DOMAIN?] writes:

Norm> I can't seem to find any IPC stuff on the Apollos; i.e., there is no support
Norm> for shared memory segments (shmat, shmctl, etc.), message queues (msgctl,
Norm> msgget, etc.), or semaphores (semctl, semget, etc.).

Norm> Is there any way to do this kind of stuff (without using sockets directly)?

I find all of those system calls on my system.  

Make sure you have the /sys5.3 environment loaded
Make sure your SYSTYPE environment variable is sys5.3
Make sure you are running SR10.x...


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From: canning@apollo3.apollo3.ntt.JP (John M. Canning)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: vt100 and arrow keys
Date: 2 Sep 92 06:24:57 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: none


   We use the vt100 program to "convert" our Apollo windows into a
standard vt1** window that can run vi, emacs and other screen based
programs over the network.  When we use it, however, the arrow keys
are not being mapped to their vt100 equivalents (at least emacs
doesn't respond to them in the way that it should).  Is there a way to
configure the mapping of the keys under the vt100 program?

  -John Canning

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From: wjw@ebh.eb.ele.tue.nl (Willem Jan Withagen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: BSD named questions
Date: 2 Sep 92 07:09:10 GMT
Reply-To: wjw@eb.ele.tue.nl
Distribution: comp
Organization: Digital Systems, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands

=>  the thing we need to do is keep the ability to rsh around the local
=>  net(s) if we drop a router between us and the name server(s). Are we
=>  really expected to run a name server on each Apollo ring to keep this
=>  functionality ?

I don't think this is required.

Why not use the /etc/resolv.conf file and insert some real hard IP 
addresses. You still lose when the IP number changes, but the 
primary named is then most of the time available.

WjW
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo,comp.sys.hp
From: rtaylor@hns.com (Randy Taylor)
Subject: Re: File-splitter for email
Originator: rtaylor@rtaylor
Organization: Hughes Network Systems Inc.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:43:39 GMT


In article <1992Aug28.172903.27023@hns.com>, rtaylor@hns.com (Randy Taylor) writes:
|> 
|> A freind of mine is looking for a file splitter
|> for email.  He is transmitting 100k to 1 Meg
|> ASCII files and it seems that most mail programs
|> can handle a max "chuck" size of 50 k.
                       ^
                       |
-----------------------    oops !  That should be "chunk" - sorry
|> 
|> Any help would be apprecited.  Please reply by email]
|> and I'll summarize.
|> 
|> Randy Taylor
|> rtaylor@hns.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: jrm@zeta.ma.adfa.oz.au (John R Marley)
Subject: TDI3010 tape controller in DN5500?
Organization: Maths Dept., A.D.F.A., Canberra, Australia
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 00:48:21 GMT

Hello fellow net.people.  We've got a Danford TDI3010 tape controller sitting
in one of our DN5500's, connected to a Pertec FS1000 Tape Drive.  The 5500 used
to be a 3500 and got upgraded last year.  Everything worked fine when it was a
3500, but now it doesn't want to work.  There is a test program for the
controller that doesn't complain when run, but nothing appears to happen.  
Could the be an incompatibility with the 5500 and the controller card?

Thanks in advance,

--
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lean not on your own understanding; in all  -+- j-marley@adfa.edu.au
your ways acknowledge him, and He will make  |  Programmer & Sys Admin
your paths straight.   - Proverbs 3:5-6      |  A.D.F.A. Maths Dept.
From: bsmith@caldwr.water.ca.gov (Bill Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: DSEE and f77 problems
Keywords: DSEE, f77, FORTRAN
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:17:39 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Calif. Dept. of Water Resources, Sac.


I have been using DSEE 4.0 on Domain OS 10.3 to manage several FORTRAN
programs with the ftn compiler with no problem.  I recently attemped to
change to use the f77 compiler (its a long story) and can not seem to
get it to work.  It looks like when I do a build that the f77 compiler
either dies on the combination of options I give it or if it does work
it puts the binary files into the working directory instead of the
system where they belong.  Then when it tries to link it looks to the
system for the object modules,can not find them, and fails.  I can
manually link the object modules outside DSEE and they seem to work OK
so I think it is probably a problem with my model.

MODEL testf77 =
     TITLE 'DWR Planning Simulation Model';
     SYSTEM 'testf77.sys';
     LIBRARY testf77.lib = 'testf77.lib';

     DEFAULT =
          @ testf77.lib;
          END;

     DEFAULT FOR ?* =
          SHELL '/bin/csh -f';
          TRANSLATE               
               f77  -c -g -Asystype,sys5.3 -WO,-nuc -o %RESULT %SOURCE 
               %DONE;
     END OF ?*;

     SHELL '/bin/csh -f';
     TRANSLATE
          ld %RESULT_OF(?*.f).o -o %RESULT
          %DONE;

DEPENDS_RESULT

 ELEMENT test.f;

 ELEMENT sub1.f;

END OF testf77;

I have called HP/Apollo about the problem but was wondering if any other
DSEE users have used the f77 compiler with DSEE and if so could you send
me a working model to look at as an example?

Thanks
Bill Smith
From: vds7789@aw2.fsl.ca.boeing.com (Vincent D. Skahan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: BSD named questions
Date: 29 Aug 92 15:11:10 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: none

system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson)) writes:

>In article <34a.e6psp@lab.ntt.jp> canning@apollo3.apollo3.ntt.JP (John M. Canning) writes:
>>
>>        Is there a way to enter some
>>local correction info so that when a translation fails, it can look in
>>the local file?  Or better yet, check the local file first and if
>>nothing was found, then query the remote name server?  In reading the
>>documentation, it seems that the /etc/hosts file system and the remote
>>name server are mutually exclusive systems.

>You can't do what you want to do on Domain/OS - it is exclusive.
>You need to get your master nameserver up to date and keep it
>that way.

lots of other vendors support such a thing.
Ultrix, for one, has had this functionality for quite a while.
I think SGI does too.

(sigh...)

the thing we need to do is keep the ability to rsh around the local
net(s) if we drop a router between us and the name server(s). Are we
really expected to run a name server on each Apollo ring to keep this
functionality ?
 
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   Is there a more perfect road paving material than what you get when
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From: mishkin@apollo.HP.COM (Nathaniel Mishkin)
Subject: Re: IPC's in Apollo DOMAIN?
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:20:27 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company - Distributed Object Computing Program / East

In article <1992Aug25.201855.2454@bcrka451.bnr.ca>, norm@bnr.ca (Norm MacNeil) writes:
>I can't seem to find any IPC stuff on the Apollos; i.e., there is no support
>for shared memory segments (shmat, shmctl, etc.), message queues (msgctl,
>msgget, etc.), or semaphores (semctl, semget, etc.).
>
>Is there any way to do this kind of stuff (without using sockets directly)?

I've never used them, but my 10.3 system shows:

    $ /com/esa shmat
    76018CE8
    $ /com/esa msgctl
    76018BD4
    $ wd
    //caries/sys5.3/usr/catman/p_man/man2
    $ ld shm?* msg?*
    
    shmat.2   shmctl.2  shmdt.2   shmget.2  shmop.2   msgctl.2  msgget.2  msgop.2   msgrcv.2
    msgsnd.2
    
    10 entries listed.

-- 
                    -- Nat Mishkin
                       Distributed Object Computing Program / East
                       Hewlett-Packard Company
                       mishkin@apollo.hp.com


Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: gordonb@mcil.comm.mot.com (Gordon Berkley)
Subject: send_alarm for X?
Organization: Motorola Communications Israel Ltd., Tel Aviv
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:10:53 GMT

One of the nice utilities available on Domain is "send_alarm", where you can
send a message to the screen of any user by name, or to a specific node
by node_id.

Now that I am using X, however, I don't *SEE* my DM window, so I don't
get my alarms.

Is there a similar function/utility available for X?

Does anyone know the format of the alarm server mail box, so that
such a utility can be written?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: lampi@polari.online.com
Subject: Re: Cannot invol M2652SA FUJITSU disk
Summary: Set the drive to SCSI-1 response - Factory default is SCSI-2
Organization: R Squared, Redmond, WA (206) 883-3116
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:08:37 GMT

In article <199208261024.AA02108@apo> bonnetf@APO.ESIEE.FR (Frank Bonnet) writes:
[..stuff deleted...]
>I'm in trouble involing a FUJITSU 2.0 Gb because invol don't
>know it ...
>
>The error message is always the same :
>
>Drive type -- 7AE -- is unrecognized by the disk driver.
>Unable to read disk parameters from pv label - unrecognized drive id (OS/disk manager)

Change jumper CNH1 (3-4) to the *out* position. This changes the response
of the drive from SCSI-2 to SCSI-1.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: L58@vm.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Dieter Menszner)
Subject: Nameserver blues
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 17:00:43 CET

I am setting up  /etc/named on our Apollo ring with partial success:
 
Configuring one machine as the primary nameserver for the ring and as
secondary nameserver for another subnet worked at least on that machine.
Other machines on the ring which don't run named are expected to
look on the file /etc/resolv.conf for the nameserver machine and ask that
for resolving names (I believe).
But this doesn't work for me. I think that e.g. ftp should look in
resolv.conf for the nameserver but it always falls back to
/etc/hosts. Is ftp and friends broken ?
 
Another phenomenon:
 I set up a second Apollo as the secondary nameserver for the ring.
 It works so long as I am logged in to the Apollo with dm or with crp.
 If I am logged in via telnet the nameserver is ignored.
 What is going on here ?
 
 
Any hints appreciated
 
Dieter
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From: malc@equinox.unr.edu (Malcolm Carlock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo,comp.sys.hp,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc,comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Problems using Domain/OS SR10.2 through PCROUTE?
Date: 28 Aug 92 01:00:34 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.apollo
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno  Campus Computing Services

There is a DN3500 at our site running SR10.2 which was recently moved
behind a PC running Van Morrison's PCROUTE.  The subnet behind the
PCROUTER is shared by the DN3500 and an HP320 running HP/UX B.08.00.

The DN3500 used to use an HP Unix box as a router, with no problems.
However, since the PCROUTER replaced the HP (which has since changed
addresses; both machines have been rebooted several times since the change),
telnet, rlogin, ftp connections etc. from the DN3500 to ANY machine outside
of the local subnet fail after 20 seconds or so with "connection closed by
foreign host".  Remote machines can be Suns, DECS, HP's or whatever, and can
be on the UNR network or anywhere else on the Internet.

Eavesdropping from a third machine via etherfind on conversations between
the DN3500 and machines elsewhere shows that remote hosts are, for
reasons that aren't clear, sending a TCP FIN signal to the DN3500.
Connections between the DN3500 and the HP that shares its subnet, and
from the HP to other machines and other networks, don't seem to have
any problems that we can detect.

Anyone know what's going on here?
-- 

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                                        UUCP:      unr!malc
                                        BITNET:    malc@equinox
From: thompson@PAN.SSEC.HONEYWELL.COM ((jt) John Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: re: Nameserver blues
Date: 1 Sep 92 02:55:33 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


 
> Configuring one machine as the primary nameserver for the ring and as
> secondary nameserver for another subnet worked at least on that machine.
> Other machines on the ring which don't run named are expected to
> look on the file /etc/resolv.conf for the nameserver machine and ask that
> for resolving names (I believe).
> But this doesn't work for me. I think that e.g. ftp should look in
> resolv.conf for the nameserver but it always falls back to
> /etc/hosts. Is ftp and friends broken ?
>  
> Another phenomenon:
>  I set up a second Apollo as the secondary nameserver for the ring.
>  It works so long as I am logged in to the Apollo with dm or with crp.
>  If I am logged in via telnet the nameserver is ignored.
>  What is going on here ?

I suspect that you are still using the hosts file for ALL name-server lookup.
In addition to setting up a 'named' process with all the various files, and setting up
the /etc/resolv.conf file with a domainname and at least one nameserver entry, you must
invoke '/etc/nmconfig -h hostent_bind' to tell the system to use BIND for host entry
lookup.  You can specify -h hostent_ascii for hosts-file lookup.  You can also use
/etc/nmconfig -l to list the current values.  (Since there isn't a name-server for any
of the other things there (networks, protocols, services), it's an over-engineered
command.  Maybe when SR11.0 comes out, it'll be there....     NOT.

-- jt --
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Design Services Engineer / Sys-Admin
Honeywell, SSEC
Plymouth, MN  55441
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: root@Ingres.COM (Operator)
Subject: Problems after I have installed Domain OS
Reply-To: mossj@Ingres.COM, root@Ingres.COM (Operator)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:40:53 GMT

I have the following problem. I have just installed DomainOS on a second Apollo 400 m/c and , using the other 400 as a master, am trying to update the registry that there is a new node on the network. The install guide says to type the following:

/etc/ctnode coley 4e593 -l -r -root

where coley is the new node name.

The above gives me the  following error:

Unable to update replicated root;local cache not updated - transmit failed (OS/network)

I know that the network is OK because I can boot the new m/c off the master via our ethernet.

A clue may be that I cannot log into the new node as "user" if the node is attached to the network. If I remove it then I can login - this must surely mean that the master is being polled for username "user" and not the local m/c?


Please help!!

Thanks,

jonathan Moss
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