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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: nouns

Asketh        Janet Teuber <C0229@UNIVSCVM.BITNET>

> And since you mentioned "memoize" it reminded me that in word processing
> manuals I keep seeing "to bold a text".  That one really bothered me,
> but I couldn't come up with a succinct substitute except "to highlight".

     What is wrong with "To make text bold ..."?  I had a great deal
of fun with this when I was handed the draft of the documentation for
an IBM-PC based package the company had written.  I used up a red pen
making changes like this (and correcting incorrect information).  I
was never allowed near the documentation again.

The Ronin
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From:         Rita <rita%EFF.ORG@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Putting Aaron's school online
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>I agree totally.  Any Oxford-style debaters amongst us? :)

        Carl Kadie is pretty eloquent about this.  Now, before someone
goes off and sez that Carl just sees thing one way, etc., you might want
to go check out some of his arguements and background stuff cuz even if you
don't agree, Aaron's administration might...  Sounds like your school is
stuck in the mid-80's somewhere.  You might also want to find out the
rationale for big schools putting their entire student bodies online, like
Penn State, MIT, UMASS Lowell, Carnegie Mellon, etc.

Rita
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From:         Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS%CWU.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Duke

Well, not unexpectedly but somewhat disappointingly, Duke won the national
title, coming out in the second half to totally dominate Michigan.

Nice job to the Blue Devils anyway.

Chris
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor%RA.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Natalie's odd speech....or maybe it's me?

I've been thinking for a long time that it would be fun to study typos
for their linguistic significance.  (Some of that has already been
done, I realize.  More has been done with slips of tongues, tho.)
It would probably add more evidence to theories of the linguistic
storage system of the brain.

This isn't making any sense.  I'm on laptop with mushy keyboard, 200+
pieces of mail behind, wondering when the system I'm telnetting through
is gonna crash, and in need of logging off.  More later...
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Tony Harminc <TONY%VM1.MCGILL.CA@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: A Modest Proposal
              7 Apr 1992 16:20:43 -0400 from <stevep@SNOWHITE.CIS.UOGUELPH.CA>

On Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:20:43 -0400 Steve Portigal said:
>How's about KBE?  That's a nice title, not too overbearing.  Of course,
>I think us Canadians can do the Sir thang.

Not since 1931 or so.  At least not without losing your citizenship.

>Sir Steve Portigallama, DDS
 ^^^

The Secretary of State has been notified of this transgression....

(plain) Tony H.
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From:         "AARON DICKEY, JUPITER UNIVERSITY"
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Natalie--

I meant to tell you this a few days ago, but anyway...your .gif is fine.  The
blankness of it the first time was due to some flub in my software.  The
second time I tried to view it it was fine.

--Aaron

PS-- Since simply being a subscriber to WORDS-L means you get 150 or msgs per
day sent to your account, aren't we *ALL* BWPs deep down?
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor%RA.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The Nashanul Akadame, agin

> I've heard the suggestion that American spelling, which has managed some
> minor modifications since the revolution, got frozen with the general
> dispersal of dictionaries.

Noah Webster was probably the chief reformer and freezer of U.S. spelling.
His reforms became standard because he was in the right situation at the
right time:  there was a need for spelling books and dictionaries in the
schools; he wrote them.

>    Had the dispersal of dictionaries been held off
> another generation, perhaps American orthography at least would have become
> more phonetic, to the relief of millions.

I doubt it.  Spelling had become relatively consistent (and quite
inconsistent with pronunciation) a good while before dictionaries started
appearing in England.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Anne Harwell <aharwell%PANAM1.PANAM.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Gleanings (38)
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>a character at the racetrack named Michael Godwin (page 72 or so, I think).
>Yup, it's the same guy you think it is.

Yep, I read that Sterling said he put some friends in the book. Here's hoping
that Gibson's next effort (a solo one) is better. I envy those who have not
read Neuromancer for the first time. How I would love to be able to do that
again!

-abh
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>  No, Norwegian is perfectly OK. Very few Swedes have any difficulty
>understanding (beautifully spoken) standard Norwegian.  Danish is a
>different matter. Grotesquely, it even happens that Danes and Swedes
>communicate in English. (Written Danish is no problem.) I have long
>held that it's easy to understand Danish, provided the Danes say
>everything three times and don't say things like "57" (they have a
>weird system of counting).

Let me get this straight --

Swedes can understand		SPOKEN Norwegian
		       		WRITTEN Danish

Danes can understand		SPOKEN Swedish
				WRITTEN Norwegian

Norwegians can understand       SPOKEN Danish
				WRITTEN Swedish

Do I have it right?

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From:         Captain CAAAAAAVEMAN!!!!! <ARHODES%DREW.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (38)DIR/NEW

>  2) Linda Evans/Raffi (Mark S.)

        Linda Evans is an actor (or actress, if you're old-fashioned).  The
last thing I remember her besides a 'Gambler' movie was the night soap
opera Dynasty (the Colbys?)
        I don't know who Raffi is.

>  4) Carl Reiner (Stu)

        He's a comedic actor/writer/director.  The only thing at the moment
that I can remember that he was in is _Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid_, along
with Steve Martin and Rachel Ward.  It's a great movie spoofing the gumshoe
(private detective) movies from the 1940's.

>  8) 1-Alarm chili (Ken W.)

        Bland chili.  Chili is a dish with beans, usually meat, assorted
vegetables, and lots and lots of hot spices.  Sorta like Hunan cuisine
without the restraint.  The alarm part refers to the 'hotness' of the
chili, and is a reference to fire alarms.  The bigger a fire is, the bigger
the need for firefighters, and more than one alarm will be rung to meet the
need.  Thus, the hotter the chili, the higher the alarm.

> 12) *Mojo*/*Otis* Nixon (Steve P./Neal)

        Mojo Nixon is a singer whose songs are a little off the wall.  Some
of his songs: Elvis is Everywhere, Debbie Gibson is Pregnant With My
Two-headed Love Child, and Put Your Louisiana Lip-lock On My Love Porkchop.
        As for Otis, I'm clueless.

> 15) Skid Roper for Veep (Dan)

        Skid Roper is Mojo Nixon's Right-Hand Man.

> 20) The Difference Engine/Bruce Sterling/Jurassic Park (Anne Hr.)

        The Difference Engine is a science-fiction story about the first
computer.  Bruce Sterling co-wrote the book with ? Gibson - the guy who
wrote Neuromancer.  Can't believe I forgot his name.....   Anyway, Sterling
wrote Jurassic Park, which is about using genetic engineering to clone
dinosaurs.

> 21) Thpttt (smooch!) (Rita)

        Thpttt: stick out your toungue, now blow.  Smooch: sound of
kissing.

> 31) Spasibo (Steve K.)

        English bastardization of the Russian word for 'Thank You'.

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Date: 9 Apr 92 07:16:06 GMT
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In article <01GILWTPWTIO000SPS@drew.drew.edu> AHARTFIE%DREW.DREW.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU (Adam M Hartfield) writes:
>Are there any other college students, lurking or not (adult
>education counts too)?

Reluctantly sticks up hand from the back of the class.  And *don't*
ask what.  I'm not telling.

G
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From:         the Freshman Scott Huddle <huddle%VTTCF.CC.VT.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      S T R E S S ! !
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I spent Saturday afternoon with my mother, and her best friend, window
shopping in our tiny downtown here in Blacksburg, VA.  They were looking
at clothes and the like, I was checking out the new kites (big frogs,
fish, and lilies -- at least 6 feet long).  Blacksburg got snow this
weekend (6 inches, our biggest snowfall for this winter (so far!) and
by far the pretties).  My mom is a college "health professional" and
got her MS in Social Work last year, and volunteers to run group therapy
meetings (with her eye on getting a counseling certificate).

She told me about a new term for stress reduction, and it was what we
were doing that Saturday afternoon.  "Retail therapy".

-scott (who's mother loves him so much, she just sent a TSE brochure for
Easter, along with a stuffed bunny)

TSE - Testicular Self Examination
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Subject:      Re: Pepper
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>came up, where did pepper get its name? One suggestion was that it
>was named after a player who was called Pepper Martin because of his
>peppery personality. Another rider opined that surely the game pepper
>existed before the player Pepper. The conversation turned to recent
>events at Fenway, but I am still curious. Where did pepper get its name?
>Bill

	Nope, I don't have the answer, Bill, but I can tell you where to find
	it:
		Paul Dickson.  _The Dickson Baseball Dictionary_.  New York:
			Facts on File, 1989.

	My guess is that it predates Pepper Martin (3B for the 1934 'Gas House
	Gang' Cardinals).

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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Ronin

     Thank you for that definition, Akio.  It also fits well since I
spend a lot of time helping people in our computer labs (most of the
lab assistants can't or won't), thereby increasing computer literacy,
am between jobs, and have finished high school but not college.

The Ronin
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*** Resending note of 04/10/92 03:28

:Got to agree with Prof H.  Just because Magic is a "nice guy" and
:apparently well-liked, it does seem that he reaped the many seeds he
:sowed.  Ignorance and stupidity is a sorrow excuse for getting Aids.
:Certainly it is trajgc no matter how one contacts Aids, but it is
:easier to feel compassion for one that contracts Aids via a blood
:transfussion, than one trying to top Wilt Chamberlin's score.

>Another member of the James Anderton school of 'divine retribution'.
>I trust you've equally little compassion for those who die of lung
>cancer, cirrhosis of the liver, and heart failure from gross obesity.

>Some of you good ole boys really piss me off at times.

>G

Well Graham, at the risk of getting you even more upset, maybe I should
elaborate - since you DID embellish and mis-interpret some of what I said.

While I may have implied the idea of "divine retribution" I did not so
state.  I did not state that I did not have compassion for Magic or anyone
else.  I did however, agree with Adam on the degree of compassion.  Let
me give you an "almost" illustration from my own life.  Forty years ago
I drove like a fool, the only speed I knew was wide open.  I recall one
time falling asleep and leaving the road at over 120 MPH.  I awoke
instantly, and by doing a Joie Chitwood number (putting car on two
passenger side wheels) managed to get car back on road without hitting
anything.  Had I impacted, most likely would have had to pick up my
pieces in a large basket  --- and the three other people who were with me.
Now, I could see people saying "what a shame those four people died so
young". but do you think most people would have felt as much compassion
for me, who was driving studiply, as the other three - who were asleep
and not even aware of my speed?  I think not.  That was the point Adam
(I think) and I were trying to make.  What if I had been James Dean?
Would my stupid driving be excused, but as unknown Don Moore, tough luck?
My point, no two points, was that it was EASIER to feel compassion for
someone who contacted AIDS thru no fault of their own, than one who
deliberately, despite much information on the subject, tempted fate.
My second point would be that I feel people should respect their
marriage vows - otherwise get divorced!  Graham, if all the above
makes me a "good ole boy" (I suspect you don't know how that phrase is
interpreted here in the South), then so be it.  If it upsets you, then
that is your problem, not mine.
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From:         Mark Susskind <NY911179%PACEVM.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      descriptivism

If grammar sounds correct to me, then it is correct grammar, right?  Why is it
then that more than a few of my elemenatary and junior high school teachers
deducted points for grammar on some of my written work, even though it seemed
like correct grammar to me?

By high school, I (sort-of) learned, by repeated example, that I must submit to
some arbitrary set of grammatical rules in order for people to understand me.

Should there not be a prescriptive basis to fall back on if there are two or
more native speakers of English, potentially from different regions, and,
possibly, with a diverse range of dialects?

Chee's Da'lings!
Mark R. Susskind <NY911179 @ PACEVM.BITNET>

"If I am not for myself, who will be for me?
 If I am only for myself, what am I?
 And if not now, when?" -- Hillel

"I reserve...  I reserve...  I reserve...
 I reserve...                I resolve...
 I have a reservation.
 I *have* a *re* *serv* *ation*.
 Wha'd'y'mean it's not in the computer?!"
--"Act of Contrition" by The Powers That Be, _Like a Prayer_ (Madonna)
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From:         Rashmi Murthy <rashmi%CBIS.ECE.DREXEL.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Chicago online
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>
> tushar
>
Hey, Tushar, you are online.  Isn't Chicago cut off from
the rest of the world, or something?

rashmi
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How did I do that???  Repeat an entire paragraph!  Whoops...

Ken
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>I *WISH* I were an editor.  Does that make me a hopeless case?

No, it just makes you seriously deluded :-).

Kenneth Wolman
Associate Editor
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>Ok, today I am wearing:

>        Jeans, white sneakers, and a white nylon windbreaker with
>"University of Lowell" written in light blue letters on the front over
>my EFF T-shirt.  I have a white flowered headband in my hair.  I
>am short, medium build, and have longish auburn hair.

	Wow, I could have sworn I saw someone meeting that description at lunch
	this afternoon...

neal
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From:         Janet Teuber <C0229%UNIVSCVM.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CALLING ALL STUDENTS OF RUSSIAN
              9 Apr 1992 13:31:00 EDT from <AHARTFIE@DREW.DREW.EDU>

On Thu, 9 Apr 1992 13:31:00 EDT Adam M Hartfield said:
>
>I know that when I say "process-ees" I am referring to the number of
>processes on my VAX.  When I say "process-es", I am referring to the
>act of processing information--like "He processes tax forms" or
>something like that.

Adam,
   Any time I've heard "process-ees" it's always been used as a plural noun,
as in the example you gave.  It always sounded strange to me because it implied
that the singular had an "-is" ending like "thesis"  or "-ex" like "index".
  thesis -> theses    index -> indices   process -> process-"ees"?
Why not      recess -> recess-es       process -> process-es ?

(You know, I find it very awkward to try to type pronunciations!)

>
>BTW, when you say Webster's, do you mean a real Merriam-Webster or
>one of those imitators that's taken advantage of a lost trademark?
>
I'm not sure how to spot the imitators.  This is "The Merriam-Webster
Dictionary" published by Pocket Books, a division of Simon & Schuster, Inc.,
copyright 1974 by G & C. Merriam Co.  Is that an imitator or the real thing?

>--Adam

Janet
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From:         "815 Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980"
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Subject:      Re: colorado railroads

Give Dan Lester full marks for his information on the skinny
railroads running out of Silverton, Colorado; but heckle the
librarian for not recalling that the information was in _Cinders
and Smoke_.  That's where I found it.

Steve Karlson

p.s. to dan: the check is in the mail (really)
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal%STACK.URC.TUE.NL@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: New Voices on the list
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I can see why you guys get hooked on this - articles go out and
come back in in a minute.  And new items keep getting loaded into
mail faster than I can read the current ones.

(excuse the burbling - it must be kulchur shock...)

G
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood%TENET.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: childhoods....such as they were
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> > Ok, gang. I think it's time to tell the Hell and Heaven story.
> > A few of you have heard it already.
> >
>  Mama's story deleted
>
> I hadn't heard it before.  It's great.  Loved it, judith.
>
> rashmi

Yes, thank you, Judith...that was great.
ndh
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 00:34:16 EDT
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From:         Tony Harminc <TONY%VM1.MCGILL.CA@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Asterix (and Tintin)
              7 Apr 1992 14:01:44 EDT from <ST403231@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

>But while we have been extolling Asterix to the skies, no one has mentioned
>my other favorite series of the same genre.  I mean, of course, the Tintin
>books.

A recent short letter to the editor of the Globe & Mail complained about
the mention of the first Belgian in space (on a recent NASA shuttle flight).
The letter writer pointed out that Tintin was in space (and on the moon)
decades ago.

Tony H.
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