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From: mlewis@cssnet.wplace.UUCP (Mark Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Login: prompt / modem control
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:04:59 GMT
Organization: The Waffle House, Waldo's Place USA


kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle) writes:

> Um, I've had a user tell me he is able to take control of my modem from
> Waffle's login: prompt using a +++ command. Then he says he can enter AT
> commands. Fortunately I can trust the user not to take advantage of the

take advantage?? like what can he do with it?? he can't shell to DOS (or
the operating system) with it... all he can do is adjust your modem
settings which is why ALL my software starts with AT&F... this way i
always start from a KNOWN setup and can then modify it to my settings
-=B-)

> situation. I cannot do the same from the console, nor do I have dial-in
> capabilities myself. Can someone else either confirm or dispell this?

i can do neither but i can do this...

1. use your modem's S register and change the escape character to
something else... on most hayes compatible modems it is S2. the default
is S2=43 ... change it to S2=47 so that the escape character is '/'
instead of '+'... just remember to change any programs so that they will
also use '///' instead of '+++' to get the modems attention... BTW: the
value in S2 is the ASCII value of the character ... check your modem's
manual to find the range of valid characters... this modem only does
0-127 whereas my other modem will do 0-255 -=B-)

2. have him dial in and do it while you watch... if you do not see
anything happen on your end (like the modem responding) then he is
probably tinkering HIS modem...

3. do #1 above then have him try it and see what happens... DON'T tell
him that you have changed your escape character... just do it and then
have him play... -=B-) if he still says that he can twiddle your modem
after you've changed the escape character, then this is confirming #2
above that it is HIS modem being twiddled...

BTW: I, too, can do this... BUT NOT TO THE MODEM ON THE OTHER END...
it's always the modem i am using... in fact, this is how i drop to my
highspeed modems command state so i can check it's running stats (ie:
line quality, resend retries, UART over/underruns, etc...) after 
checking what i need to, a simple ATO takes me back to the ON-LINE state 
and i continue my merry way on whatever BBS i happen to be on<<grin>>

)\/(ark


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: peterson@choctaw.csc.ti.com (Bob Peterson)
Subject: Re: Multiple modems?
Reply-To: peterson@csc.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:10:41 GMT

In article <w5qgsB1w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, davem@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave McCrady) writes:
|> system@CODEWKS.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall) writes:
|> 
|> - I've just checked the documentation, and can't see any reference to 
|> - needing to pay per MODEM, rather than per PROGRAM. (As distinct from a 
|> - site license with mutiple sites with multiple programs...)
|> - 
|> 
|>    
|>   Let's get serious folks.  What Tom is asking is that those who run
|> several nodes buy a binary licence for each.  

  Then your DOC\LEGAL file differs from mine.  The 1.65 DOC\LEGAL file I
have says
	Waffle is licensed for a single CPU only.  You may run as many
	copies on that one CPU as you wish.
Please reconcile your statement above with the quote from the license,
which I assume Tom Dell wrote.

|>   I run only one physical copy of Waffle from a server, but there are
|> three binary images at work here and I have happily paid Tom for all of
|> them.

  I'm sure Tom appreciates the donations.

|> Dave McCrady              davem@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 

    Bob

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P.O. Box 865132       Work: peterson@csc.ti.com           FAX line: 214 995-0304
Plano, Tx 75086-5132  BBS: +1 214 596 3720  300/1200/2400/9600+ (HST or V.32bis)
From: a-dent@somenode.uucp (Bryan Hannahs)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: if (++moves > 255) logout ("SiN"); ?!?! call waiting
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 01:25:22 EDT
Organization: .sdrawkcaB sgnihT gnipyT roF yteicoS ehT

herrickd@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (daniel lance herrick) writes:

> In article <RZeyRB2w165w@micromed.com>, system@micromed.com (Duane Davis) wri
> > Jonathan Herr <herrj@valnet.UUCP> writes:
> >> the one that has call-waiting.  If your users have call-waiting, then
> >> tell them in the sign-up that they need to put "*70," in the front of
> >> the dial-out string to turn off their call-waiting.
> > 
> > Problem with that is that alot of areas don't have call-waiting cancel.
> 
> Ohio Bell just lost the call waiting fee on two lines when one of my
> users learned that the *70 has to come after the call is connected,
> while the modems are talking.  That is a real clever one.

That's a new one on me. In the areas around here that have the
call-waiting disable available, it's *70 (or 1170 on a pulse phone) to
disable, then you get another dialtone and place your call.

---
"Man created God in his own image." - Lazarus Long

Bryan Hannahs      |   a-dent@somenode.uucp    a-dent@bluemoon.use.com
(aka Arthur Dent)  |               bryan@bluemoon.use.com
From: waffle@mcb.com (Waffle Site List)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Waffle Site List Update
Summary: Current Sites on the list
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 00:04:28 EDT
Reply-To: waffle@mcb.com
Organization: Message Center

This is the list of site name that will be on the next Waffle Site List as
of tonight's update. The List will be out Friday, If I don't get flooded.
Thanks.

-jlh
     

                     Site Name
     ------------------------------------------
     1776.com, 1776.sudbrury.ma.us
     apres.chi.il.us
     batpad.lgb.ca.us
     berry.cary.nc.us
     bizhost.pcn.org
     cellar
     comsat.gna.tfd.com
     coyote
     cruiser.UUCP
     cultnet.ch
     darkside.com
     deceiver.ki.open.de
     dogbox.acme.gen.nz
     eastwind.mcds.com
     ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
     espuma.uucp
     fietop.raleigh.nc.us
     fourfold.pc.ocunix.ca
     fredbox.UUCP
     gatebbs.cs.widener.edu
     giraffe.in-berlin.de
     gizmonic.UUCP
     grafex.cupertin.ca.us
     halcyon.com
     hale.uucp
     hogbbs.scol.pa.us
     ichaos
     ijpc
     infopls.chi.il.us
     iowegia.UUCP
     joker.wes.open.de, wes.open.de, joker.UUCP
     jybox.jyu.fi
     kunikpok.UUCP
     lablues.UUCP
     lakes
     mcb.com
     mcws.fidonet.org
     memalph.uucp
     micromed.com
     midiline.la.ca.us
     pain.la.ca.us
     presoft.com
     purodha.gun.de
     qed.cts.com
     quake.sylmar.ca.us
     questor.wimsey.bc.ca
     railnet
     rebox.in-berlin.de
     remote.halcyon.com
     ricksys.lonestar.org
     sal.lonestar.org
     sb.actrix.gen.nz
     seanews.akita.com
     sideways.welly.gen.nz
     slic.cts.com
     sniffer.mcb.com
     tmk.mlb.fl.us
     toz.buffalo.ny.us
     twiki.pdx.com
     unkaphaed.UUCP
     valinor.mythical.com
     valnet.uucp
     vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
     waffle.sns.com
     whatoh.betm.pa.us
     willard.UUCP
     wnss
     woodowl
     xocolatl.com
     yngbld.gwinnett.com
     zgnews.lonestar.org
     ziggys

waffle@mcb.com
Message Center of Hartford, CT
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The above comments do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Message Center
From: grant@bluemoon.rn.com (Grant DeLorean)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Modem angst
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:22:05 GMT
Organization: Blue Moon

aleung@uwpg02.uwinnipeg.ca writes:

>I am using the old DS (v32/HST 14400). I was looking another V32bis modem. Some people told me the new DS/HST have a problem. It was not so reliable. And the
>Zytel is better. Is it true ?

 No, it isn't true. The USR V.32bis implementation is the best one out
there. Much more robust and a bit faster than the others.
-- 
\   Grant DeLorean  - IHMSA & NRA Life Member -  (grant@bluemoon.use.com)   /

   Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.  -- Euripides
From: system@micromed.com (Duane Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: How to get .SIG's tacked on...
Keywords: waffle sig annoying obnoxious sickening fun
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 09:21:50 PDT
Organization: Micro-Medic BBS - +1 408 279 5240 - Public Access

cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us (Charles Stephens) writes:

> system@CODEWKS.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall) writes:
> 
> > system@micromed.com (Duane Davis) writes:
> > 
> > > --
> > > System@micromed.com (Duane Davis)                   voice (408)293-3299
> > > Micro-Medic                          public access usenet (408)279-5240
> > > 711 Lincoln Avenue                  public access pcboard (408)280-1610
> > > San Jose, CA 95126                    FileServer - FTPMail@micromed.com
> > > System@micromed.com (Duane Davis)                   voice (408)293-3299
> > > Micro-Medic                          public access usenet (408)279-5240
> > > 711 Lincoln Avenue                  public access pcboard (408)280-1610
> > > San Jose, CA 95126                    FileServer - FTPMail@micromed.com
> > 
> > WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! Will Robinson. Sig length in excess of 
> > obnoxium tolerance. WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!
> 
>         Waffle doesn't allow really long sigs, but I am about to change
> that! :-)

I noticed. I tried doing a 16 line sig (not including the "--") but
waffle chopped it down to 8 lines.

--- 
system@micromed.com (Duane Davis)                   voice (408)293-3299
Micro-Medic                          public access usenet (408)279-5240
711 Lincoln Avenue                  public access pcboard (408)280-1610
San Jose, CA 95126                    FileServer - FTPMail@micromed.com
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: steve@jack.sns.com (J. Steven Harrison)
Subject: Re: File System Validation
Organization: Systems'n'Software
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 18:20:43 GMT

In article <3c27RB1w165w@elrond.toppoint.de> freitag@elrond.toppoint.de (Claus Schoenleber) writes:
>crawls@dorsai.com (Charles Rawls) writes:
>
>> Ok folks, I'm Stumped
>> 
>> 
>> I have a number of users, that get an error about must be validated to use FI
>> area.  All of my users have been validated.  Just went through and did it ALL
>> 
>> Does anyone have any ideas?  Suggestions.
>> 
>> I am running waffle 1.65 under Interactive unix 3.0
>> 
>
>Had this in 1.64 when files-directory was empty.
>Also (in 1.65) if users have not high enough privilege level, that error occurs.
>

I have received complaints of the same behavior and none of the above are the
culprit.

Does anyone have any other ideas?



-- 
J. Steven Harrison, PhD.	steve@jack.sns.com
45034 Imnaha Court		Voice:	(510)623-8651
Fremont, CA   94539-6669	Data:	(510)623-8652
Systems'n'Software            	FAX:	(510)623-8656
From: rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle, DOS & Perl
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 06:50:51 CDT
Organization: Network XXIII - +1 608 222 9253

psyline@psyline.nl (Theo Bogels) writes:

| Being a novice I'm more or less desperately looking for help. Where can I 
| get Perl for DOS? How can I encode files that I received from a mail 
| based archive server? Is there any BBS that allows me to freq files that 
| are related to these topics? Phonenumbers please.....
| HELP!

Yes!

Here at Network XXIII, FREQs (Fidonet File Requests) are allowed 'round
the clock - and points are WELCOME here!

There is also a archive-server that you can send mail to.

Per your question, there are at least two versions of Perl here, and
one or more versions of uuencode/uudecode.  I would recommend
Richard Marks' uudecode (v5.10 is it?).  FREQ the file FILES from
us - 1:121/99.14 - +1 608 222 9253...

Also, isn't remote.halcyon.com set up for FREQs, ralph?


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InterNet: rat@ruth.UUCP                 |  32 Megs of Usenet/Fidonet programs!
==== Apple II Forever! ====             |  Files available more ways than
                                        |  any other BBS in America!
Files via: anon uucp, Fidonet FREQ, mail to archive-server@ruth.uucp, etc.
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: if (++moves > 255) logout ("SiN"); ?!?!
From: system@CODEWKS.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 11:30:00 NZDST
Organization: The Code Works Limited, PO Box 10-155, Auckland, New Zealand

dawson@willard.UUCP writes:

> Mostly, or have you also forgotten, the thread was started by my question
> on an undocumented, hard-coded limitation, i.e., the "turn" and it's limit
> of 255 per session.  I'm much more bothered by this than I am the occasional
> (read:  rare) tty line reset screw-up that we wound up discussing.
> 
> 
> -- 
> dawson@willard.UUCP (Willard Dawson)
> Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

Well as noted previously, it is documented. A "turn" or "move" is equal 
to a "command". I've never seen anyone come close to 256 commands, but 
what interests me is that your original message said that it happened in 
2 minutes! ie. a command every 0.5 s. Since you didn't observe it could 
only be speculation, but if someone was sending rubbish for 2 minutes, 
then I would be happy for Waffle to dump the user!

Must check and see if an "invalid" command trips the counter....if not 
the time limit would appear to be a mystery.

-- 
  Wayne McDougall, BCNU
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Hello! I'm a .SIG Virus. Copy me and spread the fun.
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    "Its Scot with 1 T because all the other four letter words were used."

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From: zeta@tcscs.src.honeywell.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Help with news
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 23:12:07 CDT
Organization: TCS Consulting Services, Peachtree City, GA

I have recently come across a new problem, using 1.64.

For some reason, waffle is setting up batches that sends data to the system 
that it just came from.  The uucpname of the system that I connect to is 
different, I gather, than the system name in the Path statement.

I've tried some reconfiguration, where I changed the uucpname in my 
configuration files to what was in the path, but when I connect with the 
uucico, then I get the problem of unknown host and the connection fails.


A second problem is giving me some problems as well.  In my feeds file I 
have
the main groups, alt,news,..,rec set up as /batch=compress.  I have also 
include !junk, but junk is sent....   why?
Also, not all the junk messages are sent, just a few of them.
The problem part is I'm getting news from two different systems, and I have 
things set up so that the groups I get from one are included in the second 
with ! in front of it.  I think the messages are those that are cross-posted 
and received from the first.  Is there a way to stop that?

Can anyone help me out?  Thanks

Greg
 

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: joet@dcatlas.dot.gov (Joe Trott)
Subject: Re: Getting Desqview to work.
Keywords: desqview dos waffle 165
Organization: U.S Dept. of Transportation
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:50:38 GMT


A general hint to maximizing the size of all DV/386 sessions is to absolutely
minimize the TSRs you load _before_ DV.  If you need a TSR in a given
session (e.g. I run DOSKEY in all my DOS sessions) load it after you start
the session.  It will be available in that session, but not in any others;
but it won't take away memory from the others either.  RTFM on the DV file
DEVICE.COM for loading device drivers.

-JTT
From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Login: prompt / modem control
Summary: Disable the escape sequence
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 12:03:41 +1300
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)

kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle) writes:

> Um, I've had a user tell me he is able to take control of my modem from
> Waffle's login: prompt using a +++ command. Then he says he can enter AT
> commands. Fortunately I can trust the user not to take advantage of the
> situation. I cannot do the same from the console, nor do I have dial-in
> capabilities myself. Can someone else either confirm or dispell this?

It sounds like he has the +++ escape sequence disabled from his end, and
you don't. Personally, I disable the escape sequence while waffle is
running, as it isn't needed. ( S2=128 )

I also have mine set to deny remote digital/analogue testing -
One turkey set up a loopback test which lasted more than an hour on my
system.



dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz
The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)
From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Aliasing over a an account name.
Date: 9 Oct 92 00:13:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: xocolatl.J6ocsB5w165w
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

A short while ago some one asked how to forward mail to another
account, but still have the mail show up in the original account.

Here is how I figured out how to do it.

~/aliases

#  Alias to be expanded that just happens to an account name.
#     It is split into two dummy aliases for clarity and avoid
#     not being about to combine redirection with an address.
#
eoin       eoin1 eoin2
#
#  Redirect into a mailbox file.  Just happens it is the mailbox
#      of the user whose name we are aliasing.
#
eoin1      = ~/user/eoin/mailbox
#
#  Redirect to my address elsewhere.
#
eoin2      eoin@laptop.xocolatl.com


Just so happens that I was setting up a feed to my laptop and trying
to figure out how to keep my mail on both machines without having to
keep multiple accounts.


   \|/  Eoin   eoin@xocolatl.com   *
    *  ------  GEnie: J.SNYDER18  \|/


 eoin@xocolatl.com  |        Practice Random Kindness    /~~~~~~~~~~~~~\  /
 GEnie: J.Snyder18  |   *              and              <  D A R W I N  >< 
 CI$:   70313,3111  |  \|/   Senseless Acts of Beauty    \_____________/  \
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From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Problem with modem result code
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:58:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.BvtGpw.3no
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

In article <cPu9RB1w165w@genepi.hanse.de> kai@genepi.hanse.de (Kai Altenfelder) writes:
|i have got problems with the result codes from my modem:
|If somebody logs in Waffle prompts "CONNECT 19200" although the
|modem-display shows 2400, 9600 or what else.
|The problem is that if the user wants to download, dsz sends with
|19200 (%d = 19200) though the carrier may be 300 ;-)

If the modem is actually locked, then this will work.  To solve your
problem:

a) Really lock your modem, and don't specify a baud rate on the command
   line for externals, or if you have to, specify 19200
b) Figure out how to make the modem return result codes that say what the
   line rate is, instead of the DTE rate.

Also,
|speed        : 14400

Waffle doesn't know about this baud rate.  Make it 19200 also.

  Bill
From: mike@arts.com (Mike Witt)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Running BBSTEVIE under Waffle
Date: 10 Oct 92 12:57:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: arts.07iFsB1w165w
Reply-To: mike@arts.com
Distribution: world
Organization: Computer Arts, Portland Oregon, USA


I recently installed BBSTEVIE on my Waffle system.  I works fine
locally, but doesn't display output to the modem, when people call
in and try to use it.  (It does accept INPUT over the modem, though).

Is there something I need to do in order to get it to send output
over the line instead on printing it to the PC screen?

-Mike
From: jkilday@nlbbs.UUCP (Jack Kilday)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Internet/Usenet Public Access Site?  Gotta Be UNIX!
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 22:29:08 EDT
Organization: The Northern Lights BBS, Portland, ME  * 207-761-4782 *

I just gotta share this with my fellow DOS "Wafflers".  I submitted the
following for possible inclusion in the NIXPUB list.   Look OK to y'all?

Updated
Last   Telephone #        Sys-name   Location           Baud        Hours
-----  ------------       --------   -----------        -------     -----
10/92  207-761-4782       nlbbs      Portland        ME 24/96       24
  Gateway 2000 486/33; Waffle BBS + PCBoard, 700 megs, 4 lines. Offering
  v.32bis USR/DS access.  UUCP accounts: newsfeeds and E-mail - $50/6 mos.
  BBS access $20-$30/6mos.  No shell accounts.  One hop off the Internet,
  but offering limited FTP/Telnet capabilities via dial-out during off-peak
  hours @$6.00/hour.  Contact: jkilday@nlbbs OR nlbbs!jkilday@uunet.uu.net.

I mean, if you look it over, it has as much (and more) than many of the
sites already on that list.

But, as one might expect, I was called on not having listed what flavor
of Unix I was running.  :)

After a few exchanges and my expressing wonderment at there not being a
list published of Internet/Usenet Public Access sites that would accept
new listings regardless of the operating system supporting such services,
I let the matter drop.  My parting shot, however, was that one day I
might add a 3rd machine to the BBS room whereon Unix might then operate
and take over one or two lines from the DOS box ... meaning that I
had to proceed slowly as Unix offerings could not yet provide the
services, functionality, user interface, reliability, broad
compatibility, and overall sophistication offered by my present
hardware/software platform.

Thanks to Tom Dell's product, we are now offering UUCP connections to a
dozen downstream sites (within 3 weeks of having set up that
capability).  And through our own innovation, we're offering callers a
limited form of FTP/Telnet capability (via 2400 bps dial-out).  This on
a lowly DOS box with less than a $400 software investment.

Ain't elitism wonderful?   I say (to coin a phrase),  "It's not how big
it is, it's how you use it."

I know I have to duck and run now (and to don an asbestos suit).  But
it felt REAL good posting this! <G>


--
Jack Kilday                |         nlbbs!jkilday@uunet.uu.net
The Northern Lights BBS    |                     -=-
207-761-4782 (v.32bis/HST) | 4-Nodes, 700 Megs * Internet: UUCP, FTP, Telnet
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.os.msdos.desqview