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From: mk0e@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MAHEENDRA BABURAO KASMALKAR)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: rec.sport.cricket
Date: 11 Apr 92 09:53:49 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


>They say "catches win matches". Two best catches I remember are:
>

>
>(2) Madan Lal's catch of Peter Toohey in 4th test at Sydney in 1977-78(?) serie
sagainst Australia. Bedi led India and Bobby Simpson led young Australian
>team. This catch was probably the best ever I have seen. Does anybody
>remember that catch? That series was exteremely interesting.
>

Sure , I remember that catch . That was a diving catch on the boundary line.
But , we can hardly say that the match was won because of that catch.
Australia was trying to avoid an innings defeat and though Peter Toohey played
pretty well , he was the ninth man to go and by that time India's victory was
a foregone conclusion . Ghavri took that wicket , I guess. He took the last
wicket too ( Thomson ) . India won by an inning and 2 runs .

The best catch I remember was by Martin Crowe against Zimbabve in 1987
Reliance Cup . It was Hooten's wicket , if I remember the name correctly .
That was an almost impossible catch .

Kassu
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From: nayyar@acsu.buffalo.edu (Servpreet S. Nayyar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: India's lineup requested
Date: 5 Apr 92 14:40:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UB

Could someone please mail me India's lineup (WCC) for the 
2nd and 3rd game. Thanks.
From: mrangasw@lynx.cat.syr.edu (Muralidhar Rangaswamy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Trivia
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:37:58 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University



>Hello netters:
>My answers to the following questions I sent you earlier:

>(1) Against which country did bowlers like Bedi, Chandra, and Venkat have
>good luck with their bats - which series and what were their individual
>(only highest) scores?
>Ans: Bedi 50* (remember those 3 sixes off 4 balls)
>	Chandra 20* (Chandra's 22* was against England in some other
>series played before this series)
>	Venkat 64 (included 2 to 3 sixes).
>All this happened in a series against NZ (1976-77). In fact, Chandra
>played only three innings, one per test, (20* with 4-5 fours,10* with
>2 fours,1* for an aggregate of 31 runs - even Gavasker could not
>have better average than that, and even great Headley could not take
>his wicket :-))
>Prasanna got 37 against Tony Lewis' England team in 1972-73 home series.
>I don't think Prasanna even played against NZ in 1976-77 series.

>(2) Name two players with identical names (without middle names) who
>played for different countries, and around same time? Also name the countries
>they played for? Hint: Both were bowlers and both have taken prize wicket of
>Vishwanath.
>Ans: Yes, it was Andy Roberts. AR of NZ played few tests, he was a middle-order
>batsman (and scored 80 odd runs against India at Madras (?) in 76-77 series)
>and a fast-medium bowler (took Vishy's wicket once).
*******
One more question, name one player from NZ and two players from Indian team
who had same last name (players are not currently playing in test matches -
and the names might be pronounced differently).

Answer:Dipak Patel, Brijesh Patel and Jasu Patel (Sandeep Patil is also 
allowed I guess, since their last names can be pronounced differently). 

>(3) Has Gavasker taken any test wickets? If so, how many? Details.
>Ans: Yes, it was Zaheer's wicket for 97 (?) in 78-79 series. That's
>the only wicket Gavasker has taken as far as I remember (Dennis Amiss's
>wicket sounds doubtful - but then again I can be wrong).

********
Q: How many wickets has great Bradman taken? List his three highest test scores.
That should be easy.

Answer: # of wickets=0(?) Three Highest Scores = 334, 330, 302 (not sure about
this one)
>Good luck.
>Sunil
.
 
>Sunil Fotedar

Muralidhar Rangaswamy
From: venkatar@tomb.cs.wisc.edu (Shivakumar Venkataraman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Indian Team: Captaincy Issue
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:16:40 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.


	Hi netters,
		
	I saw a lot of arguments and counter arguments about
the captaincy issue of the indian team. Lets face it, we didnt do
well because the bowlers did badly when the batsman did well and vice
versa.  In the test matches and the WSC one day internationals when the
bowling was great the batting let us down, thanks to the poor form of
Azhar, Manj. What has a captain got to do with indiviuduals like Shastri
playing for the record books and not for the team. What can a captain do
about the form of each player. Every time our team does well all of us
pounce and blame the captain for the poor showing. 
	Although captain is important for the team, changing the captain
after every two or three series is not going to solve any problem. At
one time the team had 5 ex captains playing at one time (kaps, azh, sri, veng
and shastri). Face it, individual players did not play well when it was
needed as was seen in the close games against Aus( I would say rain 
played a major part here), Eng in the world cup. We did very well against
Zimb, Pak and SA(unfortuanately our 3 strike bowlers were bowling
nb and wides and giving away runs.  I would say that we retain the captain.

	One more thing, give credit to everybody in the team for the
spoils and for success. I hope good sense prevails and they retain 
Azhar as captain. One thing is for sure, his batting has not been affected
due to his captaincy. (In Aus the captaincy didnt affect him, but it was
his poor form). 

--Shiv 

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From: KSRAO@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: SA tour of West Indies
Date: 9 Apr 1992 08:35:32 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

        In answer to enquiries on the SA tour of West Indies, SA is to play
three one-dayers and one five day test match in this tour. There are no other
games.

   THe schedule is:

7 April    OD at Jamaica  (already over)
11 April  OD at Trinidad   starts at 8;30 am CDT (9:30 am EDT)
12 April  OD at Trinidad   starts at the same time
18-22 April Test at Bridgetown starts at 9:00 am CDT (10:00 am EDT)

   I do not know of any shortwave frequencies on which we, in US/Canada receive
the commentary. I was told earlier that some people in Florida area can get the
commentary.

  As far as TV coverage goes, SKY will broadcast all the games live. Those with
satellite dish handy can scan the skies at the game time to see if we can get
them.

     As far as the dcores of the first one go:  WI scored 287 and SA replied
with 180 all out in the 43rd over. Simmons scores 123, Lara 50 and Richardson
30. Richardson was booed very loudly when he went in to bat and when he
returned after dismissal. In SA innings, Hudson scored 50 and Cronje 42.

K. Sankara Rao
From: tom@minnie.cs.su.OZ.AU (Thomas James Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: David Gower
Date: 14 Apr 92 02:55:12 GMT

In article <test.33@fcit-c1.fcit.monash.edu.au>, test@fcit-c1.fcit.monash.edu.au (Testing account for network) writes:
|> Ah, that languid insouciance, will we ever see his like again?
|> 
|> We should have listened to Bob Willis, should have kept him playing until 
|> his average goes under forty (which will never happen) or until the day he 
|> retires.
|> 
|> "Watching David Gower for five minutes is better than watching anybody else 
|> bat the entire day." - The World.
|> 
|> Nudd

	I agree! A century by David Gower is the ultimate beauty in sport.
	I always think how wasted he would be in a sport like baseball,
	where he would have his couple of slogs and that would be it. 
	DG forms an innings, first with ridiculous (dangerous) complacency,
	then with that relaxed (yes, languid) confidence.

	tom j. jones
From: jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Akram bowls 10 extra overs!
Date: 8 Apr 92 05:47:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: ecst.1992Apr08.054712.12146
Organization: California State University, Chico

>In article <1992Apr7.222239.17693@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU> kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar) writes:
>>
>>Bowler       Cntry  M  Overs  Mdn   Runs   Wkts  Avge  Best   Ec-Rt
>>------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>Wasim Akram   Pak  10   79.4   2    338     18   18.78 4-32   70.71
>>
>>No. of No Balls     Bowler                 Country
>>-------------------------------------------------------
>>     18           Wasim Akram              Pakistan
>>--------------------------------------------------------
>>    42            Wasim Akram              Pakistan
>>-------------------------------------------------------- 
>   Well !  Wasim Akram bowled TEN EXTRA overs and had the last laugh.
>
	Is that the number of times he bowled a wide or the total
	runs he conceded through wides (including 4 wides running
	down)?  I suspect the latter, hence no 10 extra overs, but
	a last laugh all the same ;-)
j n a.
From: ajiang@lonestar.utsa.edu (Alexander X. Jiang)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: DID YOU OR THE NET TOUCH WHILE BLOCKING?
Date: 12 Apr 92 03:18:19 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

Well, typically if there's no ref, and you know that you've touched the ball,
of course you are not going to yell "i touched the ball, keep on playing!"
On, the other hand, the other side spiked and the ball bounce off the net (even
the net had touched you, but as long as the ball hadn't) back to their side,
you should point out that they are hitting the fourth time immediately.

But anyway, the good idea is to have a ref.
From: adam@sw.stratus.com (Mark Adam)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: serving before the whistle
Keywords: serve
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:07:01 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

in a game a couple nights ago we were faced with a guy who had a killer jump
serve. my arms are still sore. before the whistle, this guy would toss the ball
and start his run. tweet! and then make contact. i don't know if he had great
anticipation or if the ref was blowing the whistle when he saw the serve start.

the whole effect was very unnerving. i complained that this tactic should not be
allowed because he was actually starting his serve before the whistle. i read the
usvba rules later and now i'm not so sure. on one hand they say that the server
has 5 seconds after the whistle to "begin" their serve. all of the other
information seems to point the serve "occuring" at the moment of contact.

the question is: when does a serve "start?"

any opinions would be nice. an actual rule would be better.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: cp18429@shazam.ecs.csus.edu (Ron Lee)
Subject: Overhead setting...
Keywords: setting
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 20:18:08 GMT

Could someone point me to the specific section in the USVBA rules outlining
the overhead set?  I am in my school intramural league and a couple of teams
are "catch and throwing the ball" in my eyes.  If they were playing beach 
volleyball, then their sets could be legal.  But this is in an indoor court
and subjuct to the rules of USVBA if not modified through the league's rules.
I need to find the rule and section in the USVBA rules that explicitly states
how to contact the ball, how far the ball may travel (ie. no lower than the
forehead), and the number of rotations allowed.  I have the 1991 pocket
rulebook which is VERY sketchy on this.  If someone could tell me which
USVBA rulebook to look for with the rule(s) and section(s) that are concise
about over head sets, I would be appreciate it VERY much.  Thanks in advance.


Ron Lee
cp18429@shazam


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From: schmke@cco.caltech.edu (Kevin Todd Schmidt)
Subject: WIVA Tournament Results
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 20:42:53 GMT

The first round of the WIVA tournament was played last night at UC Irvine.

Pepperdine got the automatic berth to the Final Four by upsetting #1 Cal-State
Long Beach, 15-13, 15-13, 11-15, 17-16, in the match between the regular
season champs of the two WIVA divisions.  Cal-State Long Beach will now drop
into the semifinal round of the tournament to try to get the at-large bid to
the Final Four.

Cal-State Long Beach will play Cal-State Northridge, a 15-3, 17-15, 15-12
winner over UC Santa Barbara.  The other semifinal will pit UCLA, a 11-13,
15-5, 16-14, 15-5 winner over USC, against Stanford who beat Hawaii 13-15,
15-3, 15-4, 15-12.

The semifinals are Friday and the Final is Saturday.  I will be at the Final
and will report on that.

Kevin
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From: jpy@mendelssohn.cs.columbia.edu (John P Yu)
Subject: Re: DID YOU OR THE NET TOUCH WHILE BLOCKING?
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:17:51 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.171444.14061@infonode.ingr.com> bells@infonode.ingr.com (Scott Bell) writes:


>      Tell him to ref then. That will calm him down enough to realize what's
>     going on. Plus then you're obligated to yell at HIM! ;) ;)

>      I assume that your hands are above the top of the net. If this is
>     the case, yes, you have blocked it. However, if the ball never broke 
>     the plane of the net or "most" of your hand(s) were behind the net, the
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>     ball never made it over. Sideout. 

>      Alot of line judges/refs I've played under don't notice anything has
>     gone wrong in a situation like this. Shame, shame. 

>      Does this sound reasonable/correct?

       Huh?  Unless the blocker touched the ball THROUGH the net it
       shouldn't make a difference - it's still a block whether it
       occurs on the attacker's side or the blocker's side.  "Most"
       never comes into play.

       /jpy

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From: cannon@tornado.dsd.es.com (Gary Cannon)
Subject: Re: DID YOU OR THE NET TOUCH WHILE BLOCKING?
Organization: Evans & Sutherland
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 21:47:21 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.173313.11501@sunb10.cs.uiuc.edu>, u2417@sunc2.cs.uiuc.edu (Mike Schneider) writes:
|> I've thought about this recently and decided that when I
|> touched the ball in this way, I would not say so until
|> after the ball was played (since we have no ref).  Why should
|> I give this info to the other team during a play?

|> I'm just wondering...how does anyone else feel about this?
|> 

As I learned to play many years ago, it was drummed into me by my coach that volleyball players are honest about their actions. I also learned that in order for my own team to know if they should be going after a ball, they need to know if the ball hit the net or the block. So we were trained to yell touch or some such thing for our own benefit. You're way ahead playing that knid of ball.

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From: wung@power.ee.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Outdoor nets
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:24:55 GMT
Reply-To: wung@power.ee.gatech.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems


I have a USL outdoor system, bought it last year for a little under $300.  It was
a pretty hefty price for me, but it has been tremendous.  

The standards are PVC tubings which telescope out, the heights are set for both men's
and women's heights.  They also also an extra setting for when the grass is wet and the standards sink into the ground.  The net is pretty standard Carron net.  Your choice of
colors.

The system is held down by some very heavy duty web belts attached to some stakes which you need to pound into the ground.  Six stakes total, two for the top of each standard and one for the middle of each standard.  It also comes with a sideline and windup doodad, once again, your choice of colors.

Pluses:

This thing will last me a long time.  The hardware is sturdy and I can't really see
many weaknesses.

The play off the bottom is adequate, but better than most outdoor systems I have
played on.

The setup is sturdy, so you won't have to worry about someone knocking it over
when going for the ball.

The setup is relatively simple, it took me 15 minutes to learn how to set it up.

Breakdown is really fast.  We got caught in a thundershower last Sunday and were able
to break it down before we got soaked.  Six of us were playing at the time, it took 
about 5 minutes.

Minuses:

It is heavy, really heavy.  It comes with a carrying bag and that helps tremendously
but it does not make the full system any lighter.

I have been able to set it up with a minimum of three people, anything less is a
hassle.  Of course if you only have three people, you can't really play, can you?

The cost was a major consideration for me. $300 is a lot of money to spend, 
Especially when there are others out there that are lighter and cheaper.  A
friend convinced me that this will last me for a long time and I haven't been
sorry.

The system I got is in the upper middle range of the USL line.  You can get cheaper
systems and also more expensive systems from them.  I would call them up and ask a 
lot of questions.  The guy I spoke to was really helpful.

Before I got my net, I played on some Centerline nets and also some Park & Sun
nets.  I preferr mine hands down.  Although I would have bought either of those if
my budget was any less.

Hope this helps,

Pete Wung
From: skb@ute-cmi.ctcpc.cypress.com (Scott Butler, MN, x5036, (612) 894-6562)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Favorite Ball
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:44:52 GMT
Reply-To: skb@ute-cmi.ctcpc.cypress.com
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor Inc.

One ball is the official this, another is the official that...

What is your favorite indoor ball, outdoor ball, and why?

Does anyone use ane oversized training ball like the one from
Mikasa?  I am thinking of using it with my kids.  It is bigger
but lighter than an ordinary ball, and is supposed to be easier
to control.

If this is an FAQ, well I am new.

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From: jpy@mendelssohn.cs.columbia.edu (John P Yu)
Subject: Re: Overhead setting...
Organization: Columbia University
	<JPY.92Apr13093946@mendelssohn.cs.columbia.edu>
	<92104.083224YOUNG@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:16:01 GMT

In article <92104.083224YOUNG@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> YOUNG@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Charles Young) writes:

>  The ball cannot come to rest!!??
>  How does the ball change direction completely, going down to going up,
>  without coming to rest? Yes, rule books do say stupid things like
>  that, which really means the ref will decide. As always.

   I suppose if you're viewing it at 400 frames per sec
   you can see it sitting there in every instance.  But
   for most us, we interpret it as a perceptible to the
   human eye (1/60 to 1/30th of a sec for most people).
   Anyway, if you want to get into specious arguments
   over moving bodies kick it over to the particle physics
   group.

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From: u2417@sunc2.cs.uiuc.edu (Mike Schneider)
Subject: DECISION: DID YOU OR THE NET TOUCH WHILE BLOCKING?
Keywords: block
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 01:25:52 GMT

iOk, I can admit when I'm wrong.  I'm sure everyone will be glad
that I was spiked (really hard) in the face last night to prove
your point.

It was petty to not call my touch in this instance.  Really what
I was trying to do was inspire my fellow players to never just let
a ball drop, but obviously no one can learn from such a method.

In the future I will, as advised, attempt to win games on my
abilities and not on some cheap calls.  Tim: you were right!


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From: sean@ms.uky.edu (Sean Casey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: DID YOU OR THE NET TOUCH WHILE BLOCKING?
Date: 10 Apr 92 01:51:28 GMT
Organization: The Leaning Tower of Patterson Office @ The Univ. of KY

Hmmmm. When there is no ref, I think people should always make honor
calls. But when there is... 

When there is a ref, I generally will not make honor calls unless
asked. Almost all the time, bad calls tend to even out on both sides,
so I consider it basically fair and part of the sport for the ref to
occasionally goof. I don't bitch about things, and I think it makes me
enjoy the game better.

Once in a long while, the bad calls can be terribly lopsided. When
this happens, a captain should have a heart to heart with the ref.
That's part of the sport too. So try to call em fair :).

Sean
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From: gee7759@bcstec.boeing.com (Glenn Elliott)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Groan Index
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:35:08 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle

dyoung@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Donn C Young) writes:

>Tony (Evil Twin) writes:

>>   "... and you hear a bunch of groans."

>... I've seen some refs let a setter 
>(who thinks they have 'soft' hands) get away with throws all night, when
>groans might result in a change in interpretation.

When I referee, I resent players who attempt to change my interpretations.
If you or your team does not feel that the referee is calling a game
tight enough, then it is up to your team's CAPTAIN to talk to the ref, in
the presence of the other team captain.

Maybe I'm just a hard-ass, but groaning at me is a good way to get a
yellow card.  If the team captains come talk to me, however, I will try
to adjust to their wishes.

On the flip side of the coin, I do have to bite my tongue occasionally.
It can be really difficult to suppress a groan (or other sign of
exasperation) when a ref makes a bad call.  And, yes, I have been carded
for speaking out of turn...

Glenn Elliott
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