From: sdorner@qualcomm.com (Steve Dorner)
Subject: Re: MacTCP license fees & Eudora
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc.
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 03:42:30 GMT

I have some more information that I want to pass along.

JUST THE FACTS

First of all, the official word from Apple Software Licensing:

>Date: 13 Nov 92 19:34 GMT
>From: SW.LICENSE@applelink.apple.com (Apple Software License,VCA)
>Subject: MacTCP Licensing Fees
>To: SDORNER@QUALCOMM.COM
>Message-Id: <721683462.0264806@AppleLink.Apple.COM>
>
>Steve,
> 
>We still have the four levels for licensing of MacTCP, but there has recently
>been an increase in the licensing fees.  The fee structure is currently as
>follows:
> 
>Educational Internal Use, $4,000 (annually)
>Educational Commercial Use, $5,000 (annually)
>Commercial Internal & Commercial $5,000 (annually)
> 
>If you have any further questions, please contact me at either telephone number
>(408) 974-4667 or this AppleLink address.

Evidently, they still plan to sell redistribution licenses, at least for
now.  However, there is no distinction between a corporate use license and
a redistribution license.  How very bizarre.

I have now asked if those of us already holding licenses will be subject to
the new fees.

A LITTLE REMOVED FROM THE FACTS

A little birdie read me part of a document the other day:

>1. Apple hereby authorizes Licensee to distribute MacTCP v.1.1.1 in
>accordance with the terms and conditions of the Agreement, subject to the
>following restrictions:
>
>a) Apple shall have the right to terminate the license rights granted
>herein for MacTCP v.1.1.1 upon six (6) months written notice to Licensee of
>such termination.
>
>b) Apple shall not exercise its termination rights hereunder unless and
>until Apple is providing End User customers with an alternative delivery
>mechanism for the MacTCP 1.1.1 software, or future versions, and/or
>derivatives of the MacTCP software. This delivery mechanism may be through
>commercial distribution channels or by inclusion with our hardware
>products, or by any other means that Apple deems appropriate which makes
>the MacTCP software readily available.

Notice that Apple is reserving the right to pull the redistribution
licenses at any time.

The UIUC sales rep knows nothing about any of this.

WILD SPECULATION

Be aware with these that you are getting third-hand information,
potentially garbled.  It is posted here for your amusement, but I wouldn't
place much creedence in it as yet.

Rumor has it that Mr. Woodman may indeed have been intimately involved in
the making of this decision.  At least, it would seem consistent with
remarks he has evidently made in the past.

I have spoken with one person who spoke with Woodman at InterOp (a vision
of the Grinch in his Grinchy cave comes to me, looking down at Whoville,
smiling an awful Grinchy smile).  He was told that Apple will honor 1.1.1
redistribution licenses, but that 2.0 would not be so distributed.

Finally, someone with contacts in the OCE group reports that many of them
believe that MacTCP is a joke, and that OCE & OSI protocols will sweep it
from the face of the earth.  (Raise your hands if you have heard that
before.  Raise both your hands if you heard it more than 5 years ago. 
Good.  Now, keep your hands up only if you have actually used a TP4
connection, even once.  Any questions?)