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From: kirchner@uklira.informatik.uni-kl.de (Reinhard Kirchner)
Subject: Brand of problematic 3-Chip-Simms?
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 11:33:38 GMT

Hello out there,

we have learned here that in some older machines these new 1M*(4+4+1) Simms
( known as 3-Chip-Simms ) make trouble. Since I do have here 386 being
4 years old I want to make a test, and for this I need the name of a
producer whose Simms make trouble for shure.

So please: those of you who had trouble with 3-Chip-Simms: please post
the name and type of chips on them.

In these PC's, with Chip+Technology chipset, 3-Chip-Simms with 256kB work
flawlessly. Should this indicate that 1MB with 3-Chips will run also ?

Thanks for your answers

Reinhard Kirchner
Univ. of Kaiserslautern, Germany
kirchner@informatik.uni-kl.de
From: bprk_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Brian Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: looking for ATI's phone numb
Keywords: ATI
Date: 1 Oct 92 23:37:42 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

Subject line says it all.
*Somebody* must have it - can you help me out?
An 800 number would be ideal, but I don't want to push my luck...

Thanks,
Brian Park
bprk_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris)
Subject: Re: BERNOULLI BERNOULLI
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:03:16 GMT

jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:

>mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:

>>Bernoulli has been warrantying their cartridges for 5 years for quite
>>some time now.  You must have a very large 'recently'.

>Gee fred, I just bought a 3 pack of 20 mb cartridges from the local
>retailer about 3 weeks ago. Right on the back it says "30 day limited
>warranty" and the usual other disclaimers.

>Yep, a reading comprehension problem.  I accept from others who have posted
>(certainly not from you, the net.liar) that the larger capacity cartridges are
>warranted but even current production cartridges for a few year old
>technology isn't.  That is, unless the high volume discount warehouse 
>I buy supplies from just happened to have shelved this pack and 
>several others for a number of years.

Perhaps you ought to check with your "high volume discount warehouse".  The
20MB Bernoulli tripack (5-1/4") disks I bought roughly a year ago (from
PC Connection) have the 5-year sticker on both the package and on the back
of each disk.

It's possible that your supplier is purchasing remaindered merchandise
and isn't bothering to tell you that it's not current-production material.

In perhaps three years' use of a 20x20 Bernoulli I've had no problems 
with the drives, adapter card, or disks.  The *only* problem I've got
is that the 7.01 driver writes one byte of data to the *printer* port
(yes, I said *printer*) if the Bernoulli disks aren't powered up at
boot time.

And a note to all USENET readers, and especially to participants in this
thread: *PLEASE* keep the personal attacks out of the public postings.

Joe Morris / MITRE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: odkahn@eos.ncsu.edu (Opher D. Kahn)
Subject: Relative Performance of 386-40, 486slc and 486-sx?
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:14:45 GMT

	I am trying to decide on a relatively fast pc to buy, without loosing
	an arm and a leg.  Could anyone tell me what the relative performance
	merits of a 386DX-40, 486SLC-25 and 486SX-20/25 would be in a similar
	system?  Is the slc fully compatible with the Intel line?  Would a 
	cached 386DX-40 be faster that non-cached 486-SX versions?  (since I
	think I can get a cached 386-40 for less than a non-cached 486SX-25).

	I would appreciate any other insights to the subject.  If this is a
	commonly discussed topic on this net feel welcome to e-mail me directly
	so as not to wait bandwidth.

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From: ws@cs.tu-berlin.de (Wolfgang Strunk)
Subject: Setting up the maxmodem 2400 HI
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: comp
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 16:03:28 GMT

I don't have any documentation for the Maxan maxmodem 2400 HI. It is a
modem with 2400 bps Modem and 9600 pbs send/receive fax capability.
The fax modus doesn't work at all and there is a address conflict with
my vga-card. 
Has anyone documentation how to setup the jumpers ? 
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From: westes@sti.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Recommendations for EISA SCSI?
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:53:47 GMT

Can someone recommend some caching SCSI controllers for the EISA bus?
Does the Adaptec 1740 include a cache?  

Is it correct to assume that it would be somewhat of a waste to get an
EISA SCSI controller without an on-board controller cache?  What's the
point of that kind of throughput if you are having to constantly do very
slow seeks on the hard drive?
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From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: BERNOULLI BERNOULLI
Date: 2 Oct 92 07:47:45 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.

mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:


>Bernoulli has been warrantying their cartridges for 5 years for quite
>some time now.  You must have a very large 'recently'.

Gee fred, I just bought a 3 pack of 20 mb cartridges from the local
retailer about 3 weeks ago. Right on the back it says "30 day limited
warranty" and the usual other disclaimers.

Yep, a reading comprehension problem.  I accept from others who have posted
(certainly not from you, the net.liar) that the larger capacity cartridges are
warranted but even current production cartridges for a few year old
technology isn't.  That is, unless the high volume discount warehouse 
I buy supplies from just happened to have shelved this pack and 
several others for a number of years.

PS:  I did enjoy your earlier post.  Minor correction.  "Writer" is 
spelled w-r-i-t-e-r, not journalist.  Hey, with people like you at TI,
no wonder they're relegated to selling in the gutter of the calculator 
market.  Thank God for HP.  Ooops, there I go endorsing another vendor.  
Wonder if they'll give me a new HP95?

John
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From: tkhut@ap.cl.msu.edu (Scott Karre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Are AM 386DX 40's faster than Intel 386DS 40's ?
Date: 27 Sep 92 08:19:29 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University, USA


    I was reading an article in the Sept. computer shopper about Advanced MIcrodevices processors, and in the article AM stated that their 386DX 40 processor was actually faster than a 486SX processor.  This impressed me, and I lookied into it further, and found out from a somewhat questionable sourse that AM processors are faster than Intel processors in the 386DX 40 class.  Is this true or just more rumormill bs?  If it is true, does anyone know how much better Am processors are than Intel ones?

    I myself own an AM 386DX 33 system and love it's speed.  A public domain speed test I downloaded told me that my system with a 64K Cache was actually running a slightly above 40 MHz.  How much faster than 40 MHz would a 386DX 40 processor run?  Around 47 MHz?  

	Thanks for the Info,

		Kris



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From: iservice@sw.stratus.com (Ian Service)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Does a DX-50 need 60ns RAM, or will 70 do?
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:45:02 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

Or does it depend on the motherboard?
(A local dealer told me I could not use my existing 70ns RAM in a DX-50)

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From: kgermann@zeos.com (Ken Germann)
Subject: VL-Bus Specifications.
Organization: Zeos International, Ltd
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 01:36:41 GMT

The VESA Local Bus Specification is available on ZEOS' list server.
You can send a 'get vesa vl-bus.spec' to listserv@zeos.com. Please
include any commands to the list server in the body of the message.
A VESA area has been added for information about future VESA related
specifications and any information related to VESA. 

I will add the VESA Local BUS specification to our monthly postings 
to this and biz.zeos.general news groupPostings are batched on the
1st and 15th of each month.

Any questions, please feel free to e-mail to me directly at ZEOS.

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From: Mike@tron.gun.de (Michael Gerhards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Multiple Partitions on a Hard Drive?
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:41:00 GMT
Organization: TRON Public Mailbox, Neurath, Germany

Hallo,

> From: mrbill@leland.Stanford.EDU (William Bowen)
> Subject:  Multiple Partitions on a Hard Drive?
> Message-ID: <1992Sep9.170842.7047@leland.Stanford.EDU>
> Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
>
> What are the advantages or disadvantages to having multiple partitions on a
> hard drive? I intend to use only DOS, so I don't really need more than one,
> but would it speed up disk operations if I split my 130 M drive in to two or
> three partitions?

The advantage of having more than one partition is safety. If you crash one
partition with a program ( compress for ex. ), the other ones are still ok.
I don't think that it will speed up disk-transfer-rates.

c u

Mike
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: poege@iw.uni-hannover.de (Matthias Poege)
Subject: Re: info on ST3144A needed
Summary: I need information on the Seagate 3144A
Keywords: hard disk drive Seagate 3144A IDE info
Organization: Inst. f. Werkstoffkunde
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:42:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep23.072622.18674@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sorourke@lonestar.utsa.edu (Sean J. Orourke) writes:
>Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
>Path: news!solaris.rz.tu-clausthal.de!Sirius.dfn.de!darwin.sura.net!wupost!usc!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!ringer!lonestar.utsa.edu!sorourke
>From: sorourke@lonestar.utsa.edu (Sean J. Orourke)
>Subject: info on ST3144A needed
>Message-ID: <1992Sep23.072622.18674@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
>Summary: I need information on the Seagate 3144A
>Keywords: hard disk drive Seagate 3144A IDE info
>Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu
>Nntp-Posting-Host: lonestar.utsa.edu
>Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
>Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1992 07:26:22 GMT
>Lines: 5

>I need any and all information I can get about the Seagate 3144A IDE drive.
>If anyone has this drive or knows where I can get the information, please send
>me e-mail.
>Thanks.

You can get Informations for all Seagate drives on anonymous ftp (ftp.uni-
koeln.de) from Germany. The file seagate.zip include Specs. for all Seagate 
disk drives from Seagate BBS. path msdos/infos. 

Matthias

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From: muncie@einstein.eds.com (Bob Muncie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: REQUEST Cyl/head info MR535-U00 Mitsubishi
Date: 29 Sep 92 12:04:19 GMT
Organization: EDS/TSD - Troy, MI
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I have a Mitsubishi MR535-U00 40/65MB RLL hard drive (w/ a WD1003-WA2
controller) that has lost it's original configuration info and I don't
have the book for the drive. I would greatly appreciate anyone's reply
with the information on the the cyl/head numbers for this problem 
drive.

Thanks.


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From: wilfred.wong@cutting.hou.tx.us (Wilfred Wong) 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: INTEL A82495DX-50 ?
Date: 2 Oct 92 08:12:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: wilfred.wong@cutting.hou.tx.us (Wilfred Wong) 

Hello, may I ask what's the above chip (CPU?) is for ?
It looks like a 486 but is slightly bigger. It is a 208 pins PGA
package.

Any info is welcome ! Thanks.

Wilfred Wong
Internet: wilfred.wong@cutting.hou.tx.usa
                                        
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: u009@csx.cciw.ca (G. Stewart Beal)
Subject: Re: Odd Monitor Discoloration Problem
Organization: Canada Centre for Inland Waters
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:04:29 GMT

In article <1992Oct02.175124.180986@zeus.calpoly.edu> rrauenza@zeus.calpoly.edu (Who, Me??) writes:
>
>	I just bought a new system which includes a VGA monitor.  As I
>was checking things out on it, I noticed that if I had a red
>background, that the lower corner of the monitor was a little lighter
>than the rest of the red.  I also noticed that reorienting the monitor
>also had an effect and would cause other areas of the screen to have
>different shades (always near the edge).  It doesn't seem that the
>
Sounds like a purity adjustment problem. The little tabs on the neck of
the tube behind the yoke adjust this (and other things). It's a quick 
job to do the adjustment if the tech has any TV background. They should
be able to do it, send it out, but in any case make you happy.
 
Regards, Stu Beal, VE3MWM, U009@CS.CCIW.CA,
National Water Research Institute, Burlington, Ontario, Canada.
 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: djpj@sequoia.berkeley.edu (Dicky Johan)
Subject: Modem Sale
Keywords: Modem Zoom
Reply-To: djpj@sequoia.berkeley.edu (Dicky Johan)
Organization: UCB CS
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 04:00:07 GMT

	Hi, I have a Zoom Telephonics 2400bps V.42bis modem that I
would like to sell for $90. If anyone is interested, can he/she
contact me at djpj@centralsparc.berkeley.edu.
	Or I can also be reached at (415) 595-7050.
	Thank you.

Dicky
From: rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers)
Subject: DAT drive to the PC
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 7 Oct 92 04:20:40 GMT

I'm looking for a SCSI DAT for the PC, as well as software to drive
the puppy.  The Wang DAT looks good to me, but I thought I'd ask the
net...
As for software - I'm looking for something good that doesn't need
windows to run.
Please email suggestions,
Thanks,
Kurt
From: txb31@isuvax.iastate.edu (Albert K.T.Tan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: What's low format?
Date: 27 Sep 92 14:47:57 GMT
Reply-To: txb31@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa


	I always read 'low level format' in the newsgroup. Can someone tell me
the difference between low level and high level formats?

	What softwares should I use for these formats?

	Once, I have used format.exe from MS-DOS to format my ST-124 hard drive 
and it tooks half day! What's wrong with the format? Is format.exe a high level 
format program???

	Thanx for advance...

Albert
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From: lou@netlink.cts.com (Louis Puccio)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: inkjet printers
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:31:44 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

HI!!!

I've been looking at inkjet printers and would like some help from anyone 
who can tell me about any experiences with them.
Specifically, I'd like to know if you are happy (or unhappy) with the 
printer and what you like or dislike most about it. I have been looking 
at the Deskjet 500 by H.P., however, if there is another printer in the 
same category and price range please let me know what you think about 
those also.
Am interested in the print quality, paper jams, inherent problems,
etc.
Thank you very much!!  Your info will help me a great deal in trying to 
decide. Please respond by email. If you can respond automatically, your 
mail will get to my emaila address.

louis

ps: not interested in color laser or inkket printers. :>

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: 486 confusion--settled?
From: $dougn@sasb.byu.edu (Douglas R. Nebeker - MIS_SAS)
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:55:44 -0700
Organization: Brigham Young University
Keywords: 486 sx dx overdrive dx2


OK--I'm about to buy a 486 and want to clear up my confusion once and for 
all.  Are these definitions correct?

486DX - complete 486 system running at advertised speed


486sx - a full blown 486 system (same databus size as DX, unlike the 386sx) 
   with NO math coprocessor.

486DX2 - a 486 chip that has a math coprocessor, and runs internally at the
   advertised rate and runs externally (connects to all buses, etc at half
   the advertised rate-- i.e.  50DX2 runs at 50 MHz internally on a 25MHz
   motherboard)

OverDrive - exact same chip as the DX2?!?!?!? (I've always understood that
   the OverDrive is from Intel, and the DX2 is the OEM version)


When I want to upgrade my 486sx, can I REPLACE the chip with a DX2 OR an 
OverDrive chip?  

What is the expansion chip socket for? (OverDrive and/or DX2?!?)

Can someone PLEASE clear this up for me--I've heard a lot of guesses and 
opinions, but nobody seems to know for sure.


Also, I've heard that a 128K cache is important if I plan on upgrading to a 
DX2 later.

Comments?

Please e-mail to me and if the interest is great enough, I'd be glad to post 
a summary.

THANKS

____

Douglas R. Nebeker            Internet: $dougn@sasb.byu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen)
Subject: Complete PC Communicator Gold
Summary: I was mistaken about the modem baud rate
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 18:51:04 GMT

It seems I was misinformed by the people at Telemart and the
Communicator Gold is not 14.4K but 9600 baud modem speed.  In this
case, I think I may forget about getting voice mail and concentrate on
a good 14.4K fax/modem.  

Could you all please make some recommendations as to what would be
good to get?  Should I get an internal or an external?  I was thinking
along the lines of an internal, though I've heard the Supra is good.  

As for Gateway's Telepath, is it the concensus that the only real
problem now is the break key not sending?

Mike
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: tdbear@tandon.com (Tom Barrett)
Subject: Re: problem with 486/50dx
Organization: Tandon Corporation, Moorpark, CA
Distribution: comp
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 20:19:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.4889.30405@dosgate> "steven baldassarra" <steven.baldassarra@canrem.com> writes:
>MS>I get parity errors everywhere.  This problem disappears
>MS>when I switch turbo-mode off or when I disable the external cache.
>
>Sounds like it is cause by your external cache memory. Maybe your cache
>RAM isn't fast enough.

Actually, I doubt it is the SRAM since most PCs do not parity
check the cache... most likely, it is associated with the
cache fill speed and related to the main memory (DRAM).
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Subject: Re: BERNOULLI BERNOULLI
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 17:45:26 GMT
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting

I have much experience with Bernoulli's and no experience with
Syquest.  Bernoullis are very reliable and now sold by Hard Drives
International for a reasonable (to me) price.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.os2.misc
From: burleigh@ogre.cica.indiana.edu (Frank Burleigh)
Subject: Re: I/O Cards -- HELP!
Keywords: I/O Cards
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:25:06 GMT

In <1ao7i1INNg8h@aludra.usc.edu> durby@usc.edu (Dennis Durby) writes:

[Dennis asks for a source for an i/o card with socketed uart chips
so he can use 16550afn uarts.]

Call Friday's: 800-488-6575.  I just bought a 2-serial port card
with socketed 16550afn chips for $50.  No parallel port, though,
but they can be bought for what, 9 bucks?

I had expected to get it cheaper, but by the time you get a $20
card (if you can find one with socketed chips), then buy the new
uarts plus whatever other support chips one might need, you'd
probably be approaching $50 anyway...



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