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From: ueh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Eric Hausgaard)
Newsgroups: alt.irc.ircii
Subject: Where??
Date: 4 Nov 92 21:27:00 GMT
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology

Netters,
  I'd like to be able to log on to ircII from another site.
is there a place to telnet to and log in to ircII??

If so, where and How?
Please E-Mail me the site...
Thanx
Eric Hausgaard

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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:51:24 EST
From: Don Stone <DRS121@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.irc.ircii
Subject: Re: BI-WEEKLY: How to compile and install an IRC-II client

A somewhat inane question, but how big is IRC-II once compiled and trimmed?
How much of a load is it when running, in terms equally as vague as this
question? Also, is there a quick way to find the closest/fastest server?

Thanks
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From: cl209@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Asa E. Rossoff)
Newsgroups: alt.irc.ircii
Subject: SMALL ircII client
Date: 11 Nov 1992 08:40:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cl209@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Asa E. Rossoff)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I'm looking for an IRC client that is < 200k... does such a thing exist? :)

thanks,
  asa
Newsgroups: alt.irc.ircii
From: osuna@isi.ethz.ch
Subject: installing IRC-II client 
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:10:52 GMT

I am trying to install the ircII2.1.5h IRC-II client on my SUN IPX.
(Source at cs.bu.edu, see "How to get the IRC-II client software and
install it") Now to the problem:

Is there someone who already succeded in installing it on the SUN IPX?
I can't compile the sources. There is a bunch of functions that keep
beeing undefined although I play with different options for the
variable DEFINES:

"irc.c", line 119: error:  undefined function close_server called
"irc.c", line 120: error:  undefined function logger called
"irc.c", line 121: error:  undefined function set_history_file called
"irc.c", line 124: error:  undefined function tputs called
"irc.c", line 126: error: unexpected  1 argument for term_space_erase()
"irc.c", line 127: error:  undefined function term_reset called
"irc.c", line 169: error:  undefined function strlen called
"irc.c", line 170: error:  undefined function irc_strnicmp called
"irc.c", line 171: error: unexpected  1 argument for send_to_server()
"irc.c", line 185: error: unexpected  1 argument for irc_io()
"irc.c", line 208: warning: old style definition of start_process() (anachronism)
"irc.c", line 215: error:  undefined function pipe called
"irc.c", line 217: error:  undefined function _exit called
"irc.c", line 219: error:  undefined function fork called
"irc.c", line 226: error:  undefined function dup2 called

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Jose
Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.irc.ircii
From: mrgreen@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (matthew green)
Subject: Re: Bots, WarBots, Fun?
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:56:28 GMT

troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU (Troy Rollo) writes:

>From article <BxH577.B2M@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, by hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke):

>> program... I once had a shell reading from and writing to the same file,
>> which grew to over 10 megs before i kill-9'd the process.   Does this make
>> /bin/csh a piece of shit?

>No, it demonstrates that the operator's abilities were shit. If herm
>had said that ircII was a piece of shit, you might have justification
>for making that comparison

ircII is a peice of shit.

hahahahaha...

..
From: asamonte@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Bots, WarBots, Fun?
Date: 12 Nov 92 04:55:36 GMT
Organization: Nothing worth mentioning...

scott@sfi.santafe.edu (Scott D. Yelich) was telling me...
>   >: >could agree to have only ONE bot with that and that function, and so on,
>   >: There is no agreement. That is why we have bot wars. 
>   >Of course there is no agreement - now. That is because the bot programmers
>   >don't have a forum in which they can get the agreement. Whilst on IRC, they
>   >are more interrested in debugging their bot or talking social stuff with
>   >others. A newsgroup like alt.irc.bots would work fine for that.
>
>   Hardly.  Ok...you tell me how to resolve this problem, and then maybe
>   it will work.  Who would run this one bot?  EVERYONE would want to run
>   it so they can say it's their bot.  If someone else runs it it's no fun.
>   Why do you think so many people have them instead of sharing them?
>
>I'll run it.  I have a "bot" that anyone can telnet to and give a
>nickname to launch the bot.  It's one program.  Everyone gets the same
>code.  Hell, you don't even have to think-- just telnet in, give
>user@host and what channel you want to be OP on... and boom, another
>bot is born.

But that makes more than one bot silly.  Bad Scott, no donut.

-Alex
From: titus@coombs.anu.edu.au (titus chiu)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Supidity of the Lambs !
Date: 14 Nov 1992 01:56:44 GMT
Organization: Coombs Computing Unit, Australian National University, Canberra.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user on Coombs at ANU. The
              opinions expressed are those of the user and not necessarily
              those of the Australian National University.

gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:
>Ove Ruben R Olsen (buboo@alf.uib.no) wrote:
>: How much have YOU been on IRC vs your BOT been on IRC to keep YOUR channel ?
>: This is a essential question every channel keeping bot writer should 
>: considder. Said in another word: DO you NEED it ?
>
>Yes, I know Glurg is on 24 hours a day. This is because some of the people I
>know do not have email capabilities, and Glurg works as a communication channel
>between me and them, as we usually are not there at the same time. Yes, I need
>it.

ever heard of noteserv or msgserv? (does msgserv run anymore?)

>Also, due to Glurg's sometimes nice comments, he gives some atmosphere to
>my channel. The people using the channel likes him, and so, people not using
>the channel really shouldn't care.

oh so you need a companian because you are a social misfit and you see fit
to waste net resources so you can have an automated script give you 'some'
atmospher? real good there.. oh you call the bot 'him' as well eh?

>: Afraid that someone may "steal" you precious channel ? get real :-)
>See above.
>
>: Neither channels nor nicknames are owned. This is IRC, not your home :-)
>Ehum.... IRC is my home... 8)=

so? irc has an average of about 1000 users, if 30% of them calls irc home,
we'd have 300 bots. (its getting there..)

>Well... the /on join <nick> op bots could all be put in one megabot. But to

no, on join nick op bots could call be killed.

>do this, bot programmers would need to cooperate - which they would do with
>alt.irc.bots. Also, as mentioned above, if the users of a channel don't mind

i doubt very much that by creating a newsgroup people would co-operate.

>: \Ruben.
>: (Say NO to unatended bots)
>/Gard 

titus
(say NO to unattended bots)
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: Patrick Parker <pharmacy@epx.cis.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: macintosh irc client needed
Reply-To: pharmacy@epx.cis.umn.edu
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:05:42 GMT

In article <kmh1l1j@rpi.edu> catesc@vccsouth14.its.rpi.edu (Chris Cates)
writes:
>Rodney G. Ramos writes:
>>I was wondering if there are macintosh irc clients available. Right now,
>>the only one I've come across is ircle 1.0.
>>
>>Does anyone know of any others?
>
>Well, let me tell ya, Rodney.  The best IRC client for the mac is HOMER.  It's
>written by some guy at Pitt and has a fantastic mac-like interface.  Buttons 
>for opping and everything!  Yeah, sure, you'll get a crash here and there, but
>that's only because it's still in its developmental stages.  I run it on my
>IIci with absolutely no problem.  I hear that the only problem arises with
>the littler macs.  Looks like the programmer has quite a bit of work ahead of
>him.

Yeah.. that's the program I use too.  I'm running a IIfx and it's working
rather smoothly.  For what is supposed to be a beta, I've had only a few
problems.

>P.S.  I heard that the programmer is also really lazy and needs more 
>      encouragement to finish the bug fixes and other features.  So, if
>      ya get it, use it, and like it, email him and tell him to get
>      off his lazy butt so we'll see v1.0 soon!

Yeah.. I talked to the programmer too Chris, he does seem to be lazy. 
Everytime I try to tell him something about adding some new option or button,
he usually ignores me.  From what some of his friends tell me, he spends most
of his time sleeping and the rest of the time spending quality time with his
dog.  Sounds to me like some sort of chemical imbalance, but who cares, it's a
hell of a IRC client program for the Mac.

Patrick Parker
pharmacy@epx.cis.umn.edu
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: dms50304@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Darkman)
Subject: Re: userhost()
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 21:52:09 GMT

troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU (Troy Rollo) writes:
>Try:
>	@ uname = [$0]
>	@ user1 = userhost($uname)
>	@ fullname = uname ## [!] ## user1
>OR
>	@ fullname = [$0!] ## userhost($0)
>OR
>	@ fullname = [$0!$userhost($0)]

Troy, since when does userhost() take arguements??  I pre7.myc6+ and I have
never come across a version that allows arguements.
-- 
--- Daryn Sharp   Darkman@uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.irc.ircii
From: acsrdl@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: Re: Keep the flood.
Reply-To: acsrdl@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:35:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.123734.7967@ra.oc.com>, herm@acme.etsu.edu (Herman H. Fredriksson) writes:
{flames}
>gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:>
>>/Gard
{more flames}
>herm

Will you two please take this somewhere else?
Thank you.

Rich

Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: doc@uiuc.edu
Subject: client command line code
Originator: jvmg9796@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: doc@uiuc.edu
Organization: A temporary reversal of entropy
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:11:35 GMT

I need to know how to modify the ircII code to disable server
specification on the command line (and via setenv IRCSERVER too).
I have compiled a client and it has a default server, but everyone
who uses it specifies a different server than the default either on the
command line or via setenv.  I want to disable server specification so
they will be forced to use the default server.  Yes I realize they
could just put a /server line in their .ircrc, but changing servers 
once the client is running is ridiculous...you could go have lunch 
before the new server accepts the connection.  Besides, I dont
think many of the users know the /server command exists.  
So, all I need to know is where the code is and how to change it.  Let 
me tell you what I do NOT need.  I do not need flames, criticisms, or
any other "why do you want to do that?" type comments. Thank you.


Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: dgong@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Daniel Gong)
Subject: Re: Telnet sites for irc
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 09:27:27 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly State Univ,CSC Dept,San Luis Obispo,CA 93407

In article <1992Nov07.012711.126754@zeus.calpoly.edu> asamonte@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...) writes:
>dgong@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Daniel Gong) was telling me...
>>Does anyone know of any telnet sites which would allow me
>>to login and use irc? Help would be appreciated.
>
>There is already an irc client at cal poly.  Use it, not a telnet
>site.  The system admins won't take kindly to you doing that
>(since the irc client is adminsitered by a load sensitive play client)
>
>-Alex
>

Yes. I know that already. But irc is not installed on polyslo, which I
would be telneting from. <Sigh!> Give me the good 'ol days when you
could irc any time of the day on aix....

-Dan

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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Subject: Re: IRCII *IS* a Programming Language.
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 03:38:02 GMT


Actually, ircII is Turing complete.  B-)

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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: Dweiss@chiba.hughes.american.edu (Dan Weiss)
Subject: Re: Keep the flood.
Followup-To: alt.irc,alt.irc.ircii
Organization: Chiba City
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:22:25 GMT

In article <BxI8J9.I1o@umassd.edu>, acsrdl@UMASSD.EDU wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Nov10.123734.7967@ra.oc.com>, herm@acme.etsu.edu (Herman H. Fredriksson) writes:
> {flames}
> >gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:>
> >>/Gard
> {more flames}
> >herm
> 
> Will you two please take this somewhere else?
> Thank you.
> 
> Rich


1) They are not the only two people interested in the subject of "bots" on
the irc.

2) "Bots" are most certainly an IRC issue.  This newgroup being dedicated
to IRC issues, it stands to reason that the discussion should be here.

3) Why don't you just stop reading the thread?

-------------------------
Dan Weiss
Washington DC
Dweiss@chiba.hughes.american.edu
Dweiss@auvm.american.edu
Flammable@IRC
From: Dweiss@chiba.hughes.american.edu (Dan Weiss)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Bots, WarBots, Fun?
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:26:21 GMT
Followup-To: alt.irc,alt.irc.ircii
Organization: Chiba City

In article <BxH577.B2M@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt
Hucke) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Nov9.212604.25539@ra.oc.com> herm@merlin.etsu.edu (Herman H. Fredriksson) writes:
> >
> >/on public "* *re*" say say hi, Glurg;say say hi, Glurg
> >then type: 
> >say hi, Glurg
> >
> >And watch the floods increase from 1,2,4,8,16,32,etc... messages. Great
> >stuff Mr Gard, your stupid piece of shit WeenieBot floods the crap
> >out of the channel.
> 
> What does this prove?  It's a "piece of shit" because it can be placed in an
> infinite loop by any malicious person?  That can be done with almost any
> program... I once had a shell reading from and writing to the same file,
> which grew to over 10 megs before i kill-9'd the process.   Does this make
> /bin/csh a piece of shit?
> 
> It was I who created an enormous file, not the author of /bin/csh.  Likewise,
> you were responsible for flooding the channel, not the bot.

> hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu             


When a programer leaves a bot running unattended he is responsible for
anything that bot may do.  

The above example is extreme, let's look at another one:

<luser1> Hey I like calculus
<KodiakCPU> aaaargh not calculus.
<luser2> kewl!  Calculus.
<KodiakCPU> aaaargh not calculus.
<luser3> Guys dont say calculus again tee-hee. 
<KodiakCPU> aaaargh not calculus.

Ok, so who is responsible?  Yes, the lusers are being immature, but who has
given them the means to affect this stupidity?  The bot programer.  Without
the bot, the lusers would still be lame and annoying, but the bot gives
them power to be even worse.

The above is a real example, btw.

When you *subject* the users of the irc to your bot, it is your
responsibility to make sure your bot does not adversely affect the network.
 

It is NOT up to the other users of irc to make sure all bots are being used
in the ways the programers wished.

I mean, what do you think IRC is FOR?  Most of us agree it is for human
communication.  

Appparently, others are starting to think it is a neat programming forum
with human baby-sitters. 
-------------------------
Dan Weiss
Washington DC
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Dweiss@auvm.american.edu
Flammable@IRC
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: thecure@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (matthew aardvarkious)
Subject: Re: help: how does channels got named?
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:12:39 GMT

ecn644e@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:

>Dear netters,

>I am relatively new to irc, but interested in knowing whether those channels
>on irc is somehow standard (eg. hottub, sherwood etc) because I saw them in
>most servers. Or channels names are arbitrarily given.

I suggest asking around. mail troy@cbme.unsw.edu.au for more details

(he appears to be happy to splurdge other peoples email address around.)


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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: mkwg9074@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (M. K. Weaver)
Subject: Re: Bots, WarBots, Fun?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:47:08 GMT

First...
>rpointe@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robey Pointer) writes:

>>This is a vote of YES for alt.irc.bots

Second...
avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed) writes:

>this isnt the place to vote for alt.irc.bots

>avalon

Third...
mkwg9074@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (M.K.Weaver) writes:

Darren,
      You could have added a bit more value to
your information by telling not only that this
is not the place, but exactly where the place
is to vote.

Monica

<exit poll> alt.irc.bots YES X
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Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.irc.ircii
From: troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU (Troy Rollo)
Subject: Re: Bots, WarBots, Fun?
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:46:51 GMT

From article <BxH577.B2M@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, by hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke):
>>/on public "* *re*" say say hi, Glurg;say say hi, Glurg
>>then type: 
>>say hi, Glurg
>>
>>And watch the floods increase from 1,2,4,8,16,32,etc... messages. Great
>>stuff Mr Gard, your stupid piece of shit WeenieBot floods the crap
>>out of the channel.
> 
> What does this prove?  It's a "piece of shit" because it can be placed in an
> infinite loop by any malicious person?  That can be done with almost any

Well if you knew a tiny bit about the IRC protocol you would realise
that it proved that the robot is fundamentally broken. There are
rules built into the protocol to prevent this. ircII tries to enforce
these, but it is possible to break them if you go out of your way to do
so. A good rule of thumb is that if ircII prevents you from doing
something the easy way, you should probably not be doing it at all.

> program... I once had a shell reading from and writing to the same file,
> which grew to over 10 megs before i kill-9'd the process.   Does this make
> /bin/csh a piece of shit?

No, it demonstrates that the operator's abilities were shit. If herm
had said that ircII was a piece of shit, you might have justification
for making that comparison
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From: titus@coombs.anu.edu.au (titus chiu)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: ircII client
Date: 5 Nov 1992 21:53:28 GMT
Organization: Coombs Computing Unit, Australian National University, Canberra.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user on Coombs at ANU. The
              opinions expressed are those of the user and not necessarily
              those of the Australian National University.

dms50304@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Darkman) writes:

>Is pre8 being distributed yet?  I remeber checking csd.bu.edu the other day
>and pre7 was the latest.

>--- Daryn Sharp   Darkman@uiuc.edu

a more appropiate question to ask might be who is actually doing the client
at this moment in time since Troy's resignation from it...

titus
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: noord@ucs.orst.edu (its MR. DAVO to you...)
Subject: Re: baloo.doc..how to create a bot!
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:37:26 GMT

say, i had one of those just a month or so ago...... but no longer...
look for someone named _james he probably has it 
Its called "BotDoc"

Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose)
Subject: Re: ircle 1.1.4 available
Followup-To: alt.irc
Organization: The Evil Fascist IRC Admins From Hell, Inc.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:42:13 GMT

Olaf> == Olaf Titz <s_titz@ira.uka.de> 

 Olaf>  ftp.ira.uka.de: /pub/systems/mac
 Olaf>  sumex-aim.stanford.edu: /info-mac/comm
 Olaf>  ftp.cs.bu.edu: /irc/clients/macintosh

        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
this should be "cs.bu.edu".

And it's there already, both the source and the application.

--Helen
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Twilight Zone
From: censtad@dumaine.gac.edu (Christopher B Enstad)
Date: 10 Nov 92 10:41:19 -0600
Distribution: all

How does one get a connection to the Twilight Zone or become an irc  
operator?  Please e-mail me responses.

censtad@nic.gac.edu
From: gwydion@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Mercenary Programmer)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: NEW IRC CLIENT AVAILABLE - MADE BY ME!
Date: 6 Nov 1992 22:47:56 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu

In article <1992Nov3.091224.28957@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> frechett@spot.Colorado.EDU (-=Runaway Daemon=-) writes:

>Yah.. Just for a challenge it'll look like emacs.  It'll have a lisp
>interpreter and it'll take less memory and run faster.  It'll
>be a combination of all the classic emacs clients..


Actually, LISP interpreters are amazingly easy to write; 
as compared to some other languages.

BTW, to those involved in the programming language debate: have you
ever considered the fact that LISP is an interpreted language most of
the time?  In fact, if you want to put it rigourously, it is possible
to claim that it is impossible to write a LISP compiler.

Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.irc.ircii