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From: martin@chiton.ucsd.edu (Martin Olivera)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Warming baby bottles
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:51:03 GMT
Organization: UCSD - Scripps Inst. of Oceanogr. - MPL

For those who might be interested:

		Electric Bottle Warmer - model # 6022

Gerber Products Co.
General Merchandise Division
Reddsburg, WI 53959

... and I'm not affiliated in any way with the company.

It was given to us as a baby-shower present but yesterday we found out it
costs about $10 in Toys 'R Us. It's simple to use, consistent, and spends a
lot less energy than the microwave.

Just my 2 cents.

Martin
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From: elonich@cbnewse.cb.att.com (diane.e.pedersen)
Subject: Re: Sushi during pregnancy - is it bad?
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:27:22 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.142521.29248@philabs.philips.com>, mgh@philabs.philips.com (Monisha Ghosh) writes:
> 
> The book 'What to expect when you're expectimg' claims that sushi during
> pregnancy is a no-no since all uncooked meat and fish is taboo. How true is
> this? It has me slightly worried because I like sushi and have had it often
> since I became pregnant. It seems odd that something which is a part of the 
> diet of so many people should be avoided during pregnancy. Any full time
> sushi eaters care to comment?
> 
> Monisha
> mgh@philabs.philips.com


Uncooked meats and fishes are taboo beccause they can contain
bacteria which can make you sick.  And when you are pregnanct,
when you get sick, your baby can get sick either.  

Cooking food kills many bacteria that might be in it.  For
example, consider salmonella.  It is killed by cooking the
food throughly. However, cases of salmonella can be quite
severe (there have been some fatalities, though most cases are
more like an intestinal flu).  AND salmonella can cause miscarriage.
Also, fevers in early pregnancy (as many of these bacterial
illnesses, such as salmonella, can cause fever) have been linked
to birth defects.  Bad intestinal cramps can bring on
premature labor, also.

So if you've had sushi and haven't gotten sick, your baby
is most likely all right.  

One other warning about fish in general is that fish can
contain concentraions of mercury and other toxic wastes
that could hurt the baby even if you don't feel any problems.
For example, women are advised to not eat Great Lakes trout
and salmon at all during pregnancy (and to limit their
Great Lakes fish meals considerably if they are planning
future pregnancies).

But continuing to eat sushi would be like playing 
Russian Roulette with your baby's health.
-- 
Diane Pedersen
AT&T Bell Laboratories
Naperville, Illinois
att!ihlpe!elonich
From: rrt@mpd.tandem.com (Robert Teisberg)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Whole milk verses 2%
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:57:13 GMT
Reply-To: rrt@amadeus.UUCP (Robert Teisberg)
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <1992Aug12.151818.18894@kodak.kodak.com> salvaggi@sunshine.Kodak.COM (Nanette Salvaggio) writes:
>
>My son is now 9 months old.  The doctor has told us to switch
>him to milk, which he seems to like just fine.  My
>question is that our doctor has said whole milk,  yet
>my daycare providers doctor insists that whole or 2% doesn't really
>matter.  I have taken a quick survey around the office and
>there seems to be a 50 - 50 split over which is better.  My
>son is healthy and sits right on the 50th percentile for
>both weigth and height.  Everyone in my family except me
>has always had weight problems so I am concerned and 
>don't want my son to end up with a weight problem.  So we
>are concerned about his fat intake.  What is the net experience
>and knowlegde on this subject?

The best advice on fat intake for infants up until about 12 months old
is to make sure they get enough.  Infants need a fairly significant
amount of fat in their diet to develop their nervous systems properly.
Giving him whole milk is one easy way to keep your son's fat intake up
where it needs to be.

There have been documented cases (sorry, I don't have references)
where children have ended up mentally retarded because their parents
fed them a virtually fat-free diet.  I doubt anyone knows the minimum 
fat requirement in an infant's diet, but whole milk is a good idea (if
you feed your son butter cookies, ice cream, french fries and all the
other stuff you doubless avoid in your own diet, then 2% is also just
fine). 

The bottom line is that an infant's metabolism is different from yours
and mine, and what is good for an adult could be bad for a baby.
After his first birthday, your son's system will be more mature and
you can safely switch him to a lower-fat diet.  In the meantime, whole
milk won't make him fat; it will help to make him smart.

>
>Nanette
>salvaggi@alnitak.kodak.com


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From: judy@locus.com (Judy Leedom Tyrer)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: God's family values
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:36:50 GMT
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California

In article <2A8A8CDA.3619@intercon.com> ooblick@intercon.com (Mikki Barry) writes:
>> 
>> To say that Christianity is supreme doesn't force or automatically
>> convert anybody into it, and that's all I personally care about.
>
>But it is arrogance at its height.  

If, when all is said and done, arrogance is the worst of my crimes, then I will
have lead a noble and worthy life indeed!  

-- 
Judy Leedom Tyrer

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"	- William Blake
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: vrs0@bunny.gte.com (V. Stern)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Stupid potty training question
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:47:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: GTEL

I know this is a stupid question, but I haven't seen it addressed in any 
magazine articles, etc., and people I've asked don't know either... When 
potty training a boy (we're talking urinating here) are they trained to go 
sitting down or standing?  One friend says it's a function of how much of 
a mess you want to clean up (hers hasn't gone through it yet, though).  
Another friend's little boy was trained sitting down and came home from 
preschool one day with the great revelation that the other little boys 
peed standing up ("You know what mommy?!") :)

Vanessa R. Stern
vrs0@bunny.gte.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: gayle@disk.uucp (Gayle)
Subject: PLEASE, PLEASE READ! Please help!
Organization: Digital Information Systems of KY
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:17:13 GMT

Hi, I would appreciate any help anyone could give to me. I'm recently divorced,
and am breastfeeding my 19 months old son, who is also on an Apnea Monitor,
due to repeated Apnea(cessation of breath), and Bradycardia(low heartbeat)
alarms. I lost an older son to SIDS last year. Hence the problem begins.
 The judge ordered today that my ex be allowed visitation with Josh from 9-7
every other weekend, both days. My problem is that I have been unable to ex-
press over an ounce (took 3 hours to do that) of breatmilk, and Josh wont
take a bottle. Not to mention that my ex slept through all apnea alarms, and
fell asleep during the CPR class. I have tried REPETEDLY to express milk, and
have also tried to get Josh to take juice. He wont do it long enough to get a 
full feeding. He throws bottle down. My husband is so hateful and full of
spite that I'm afraid should Josh have problems over there and not eat, that 
Lee would let him scream rather than bringing him home to me. Believe me, to any
good parent this sounds impossible - with this man, ANYTHING is possible. 
 What I had hoped I might be able to do, is get any mother that has breastfed,
and their baby wont take a bottle, to get a notarized statement saying that. 
I would reimburse for any notary charges, please, anything is worth it. I 
saw one son dead and wished I could prevent it, if something happened to Josh,
I could never live with that. Please - can ANYONE help?
 Any other suggestions on what I could do? I have been in touch with LaLeche
League, waiting to hear back. Please, I see the picture of my older son in
his casket everyday, I don't want to risk that with this one. I am NOT trying
to prevent his father from seeing him, he has been given the right to see him
all of his life, until I asked for money he had no desire to do so. He has 
NEVER shown the desire to do that, and until he started to pay child support,
he had said they were "no longer his problem." 
 Please help someone in need. Just to make sure a beautiful little boy makes
it to a beautiful big boy.
 If anyone could help me, please send to:

Gayle Vincent
174 Lynnwood Drive, Apt 206
Mt Washington, Ky 40047
 Please!!!!!! He's supposed to get him next weekend, if I could get some info
together before they might file for contempt then maybe it would all be ok.
I'm not out for revenge against my husband, all I want is to be able to 
provide the best care possible for my son until he gets older and no longer 
has the medical problems that he does.
 He also has sever Gastroesophogeal Reflux, controlled w/prescriptions.
And he has NEVER, in his life, been away from me. I have always fed on demand
and would like to let him wean on his own. That's the least I can do for him
Thank You,
Gayle Vincent


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From: bakers@cpva.saic.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: New Arrival!!!!!!
Date: 21 Aug 92 09:39:34 PST
Organization: Science Applications Int'l Corp./San Diego

Announcing (a little late):



			Justin Thomas Baker
		       Born:  April 28, 1992
		       	    11:01 P.M
 			   7 lbs  1 oz.  		

He was delivered by a VERY emergency C-Section - for those intereseted I'll
post the details later.  I'm a first time misc. kids reader and have enjoyed
reading others' birth experiences.

From a Proud, First Time Dad,
Steve Baker
SAIC - McLean, Virginia
Organization: University of Central Florida--Computer Services
Date: Friday, 14 Aug 1992 13:00:16 EST
From: <ELDREDGE@UCF1VM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Clean house and serenity

This thread of posts made me think of a kitchen magnet my mother mailed to
me out of the blue not too long ago.  It's rectangular and shows a couch
with tumbled pillows and a toy and a cat playing with some yarn, at the
bottom it says "Dull Women Have Immaculate Houses" (one of those truisms
that probably isn't).  Naturally I called Mom right away and said that I
wouldn't know, I have never lived in an immaculate house.  Her response
was to laugh and say "We really are pretty interesting, aren't we?".

Cynthia Eldredge
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: aidler@sanjuan.UVic.CA (E Alan Idler)
Subject: Re: God's family values
Organization: University of Victoria
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:14:46 GMT

ooblick@intercon.com (Mikki Barry) writes:

>In article <aidler.714030781@sanjuan>, aidler@sanjuan.UVic.CA (E Alan Idler) 
>writes:
>> It would be negligent for us as parents to not
>> teach our children the truth to they may 
>> choose happiness throughout their lives.

>Here we go again.  Prejudicial, judgmental, and calling non-xtian parents 
>negligent.  And yet some still wonder what non-xtians find offensive in this 
>type of stuff.

I am glad you have provided me this opportunity to speak
towards this issue because I would only believe that
non-Christian parents were negligent if they were
depriving their children of something essential that
could not be provided in any other means.

Yes, everyone must freely accept Jesus into their lives 
by covenant (baptism) and their everyday actions to
achieve their full salvation.
Our Father's is concerned that everyone will have
this opportunity at some time in their life.
Some people will be born into homes where this is
taught in their youth.  For others, it won't be presented 
until later in life, perhaps not until after they have 
died, (since life continues because we are eternal).

Even then, it is each person's decision regarding
how they choose to approach God in their life.

Therefore, should my daughter invite one of her
playmates with us to church (because it is a
fun activity for her to do), we would never allow 
the other child to attend with us without her parents' 
informed consent.  I am talking about much more than 
letting the parents know that their child will be with 
our family for a certain length of time, but that we 
will be at a place where certain values will be taught.

Should the other child or her parents decline this 
invitation (for whatever reason), we are not going to 
react towards them with a judgmental attitude.
Neither are we going to assume that they are
neglecting their children.
We accept that there are other people with different
understandings of God and our purpose in this life.

Now I have a question for you: do you assume that 
Christian parents are abusing their children with
their teachings?

A IDLER
From: fsacp@acad3.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Clarification on Showers w/adults and 2 year olds
Date: 20 Aug 92 22:51:41 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

Hi,
  Let me clear something up about my last post.

NO I do not see anything wrong with a NAKED BODY!
It's perfectly natural.

I guess I'm just over cautious because I myself was abused,
not my my dad, I'm not sure about my mom, I WAS abused by
my oldest brother.

Wehn I was growing up (I'm 23) my parent's saw nudity as something
BAD which it isn't!

I gotta run
Thanks
Jay
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: hough@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Susan Hough)
Subject: Re: Talk talk TALK talk
Summary: no solution, but mroe commiseration 
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 22:39:51 GMT

In article <holly.169@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com> holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Holly Wise) writes:
>In article <bandor.714180812@byerley.rdt.monash.edu.au> bandor@byerley.rdt.monash.edu.au (Tony McGregor) writes:
>
>>Snap. Meaghan was born talking. She has two states, talking and
>
>DITTO.  My soon to be 9 year olds the same way.  She doesn't care to what 
>she talks either.  She can't stop talking long enough to listen either.  It'
>s so nice to know there are so many others out there with the same problem.  
>Only thing is I'D LOVE A SOLUTION.  Does it ever stop?

This thread has been somewhat reassuring to me also--at least I don't have
the only child in the world who seems to talk every waking minute.
Sarah is 8 years old now; when she was 6 months and all she could say
was "ba", she said "ba-ba-ba" all day long.  Now the vocabulary is
expanded but the constancy of the noise is the same.  It drives me
bananas!  I keep thinking that once she gets to a certain age, she
might finally learn to internalize some of her thoughts, but it hasn't
happened so far. 

So, sorry to say, no solutions from this corner.  But I'll also be
watching to see if anybody else has figured out any bright ideas.

Sue 
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: husain@rtsg.mot.com (Saad Husain)
Subject: Identical Twins (Mirror, One is left, the other right)
Summary: Identical Twins who are not identical =: )
Keywords: Identical, Twins, Handedness, Left
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:35:12 GMT

I have identical twins (age 5) who do not share the same handedness.
I asked a specialist in Twins and he said it was a case of mirror twins.
I have never heard the term before and would like enquire if any one
else who frequents this group who knows about this subject.

Thanks,

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Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: barb@sq.com (Barbara Burrows)
Subject: Re: differences between boys and girls?
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:13:12 GMT

In article <cathe.714330177@xanadu> cathe@xanadu.ucsb.edu (Cathe Gordon) writes:
>Hello,
>
>My husband and I were watching our 1 year old last night as
>he pushed is little wooden soapbox car around the room
>making car noises up and down the roads (legs, arms, whatever
>was in his way).  I'd never seen him do this and I certainly
>don't make car noises when we play.  My husband stated that
>he thought boys would NATURALLY have this trait and a girl
>wouldn't.  You can imagine the discussion that followed that

I'm not one of those who thinks there are no differences (except
the obvious 8~) between males and females....some, I think, go beyond
what you would expect from nurture.

I experienced a very similar thing with my little guy when he was 
just 9 months old.  We didn't have any cars or truck type playthings 
for him.....nor had we parked him in front of the television....nor had 
he played with anyone his age or older (except for his older 
sisters - 17 and 12).  And yet, when we took him to visit my Aunt 
(who has grandchildren who are older) she brought out a box full 
of toys......stuffed animals, gadgets, rattles and cars and trucks....and 
put it in front of him.  He sat there and stared at the box for a few 
minutes.....moved his hands over some of the objects.....chose a car 
in one hand....a little truckthing in the other....and moved them back 
and forth on the floor.  I don't know where he would have got this from.  
We were amazed.  

I can't say if little girls do this too......but apparently Barry's 
daughter (the 12 year old) was very interested in those small cars
(micro machines I think they are) for many years when she was 3 or 4
and had an immense collection which she played with constantly.

Barbara
From: sdreynol@isi.edu (Sam D Reynolds)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Introduction to lumpy foods
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:05:53 GMT
Reply-To: sdreynol@maxwell.isi.edu (Sam D Reynolds)
Distribution: na
Organization: USC-Information Sciences Institute


Lindsay,


We bought a baby food grinder from the "Right Start" catalog for ~ 11
bucks.  We grind steamed chicken, carrots, broccoli, squash etc.
Works great and the food smells A LOT better than the jarred foods.

Now that Max is older (11.75 mo) we still grind the food but use it to
make tiny (bitsized) sandwiches with a tortilla style whole wheat
bread.  He eats stuff in the sandwiches that we can't get him to eat
off a spoon (e.g., tofu).

BTW, we steam the chicken for 20 minutes.  We place it in a small bowl
and place the bowl on a steaming tin.  This way the chicken seeps in
its own broth and the broth can be saved and added to the food to get
it to the correct consistency.  We prefer skinless, boneless chicken
thighs over breasts.  The breasts tend to get dry.


Good Luck,
Sam, Karen and Max Reynolds
From: darsie@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Richard Darsie)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Waldorf education: Philosophy
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:55:02 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, Davis

Since I received a number of inquiries about Waldorf education in response
to an earlier post, I am taking the liberty of posting excerpts from 
the Davis Waldorf School Parent Handbook for the upcoming school year.
Disclaimer: My only affiliation with Waldorf is as the parent of a
child in the school. This is the first of several posts.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

	As of 1991, the Davis Waldorf School is one of more than five hundred 
Waldorf Schools throughout the world following the "Waldorf" approach.  
The first Waldorf School was opened in 1919 by Rudolf Steiner (1861-1925),
Austrian philosopher, scientist, architect, artist and teacher, for children 
of the workers in the Waldorf-Astoria tobacco factory in Stuttgart, Germany. 
Since then the Waldorf School movement, founded on the teachers' work with 
Steiner's far-reaching insights and teaching methods, has become the worldUs 
largest association of independent schools.
	The aim of Waldorf education, as stated by its founder, is "to develop free 
human beings who are able, in themselves, to impart purpose and direction to 
their lives."  This can only be done through educating the whole childQhead, 
heart, and handQtoward the three great ideals of truth, beauty, and goodness. 
These three ideals taken together set the standard of education at a Waldorf 
school.  Rudolf Steiner expresses them in the following way:  "The need [is] 
for imagination, a sense of truth, and a feeling of responsibilityQ
these three forces are the very nerve of education."
	This goal of education, to develop a balance of intellectual achievement, 
spiritual growth, physical health and personal responsibility, is based on a 
profound understanding of the process of human development.  Each subject is 
introduced to the child when he or she is most ready for it, and in a manner 
to which the child is naturally receptive at that stage.  Year by year, the 
content of the curriculum expands with the ever-growing powers of the child, 
nourishing the inner life successively through stories from fairy tales, 
legends, myths and history, and the outer life with the development of 
individual and social skills.
	Waldorf education recognizes the uniqueness of the individual and the 
spiritual in life.  It lays the foundation for a truly healthy adult attitude 
by developing the child's sense of beauty, wonder, and interest in the world 
of nature and in all humanity.
From: dani@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com (Danielle Cohen)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 21:01:23 GMT
Subject: Re: Pregnancy Test Kits
Organization: HP Pacific Technology Park - Sunnyvale, Ca.
Newsgroups: misc.kids

In misc.kids, mylene@swanee.ee.uwa.oz.au (Mylene Pijpers) writes:


    Anyway, when my period was 3 days late I called the doctor
    to make an appointment, I thought the test could be done when 1 week
    late. They told me it even could be done at 3 days (=actually some
    17 days pregnant). As far as I know they only do urine tests.
    So you bring in urine in the morning, and call in the afternoon...
    doctor: 'your test is negative'
    me:     'oh, but I am pregnant'
    I must have sounded quite puzzled, and asked her what to do next, I was
    convinced I was pregnant,  having my period even more regular than
    when I was using the pill :-) 
    [the next thing was: wait, since I was not wanting to be *not* pregnant]

    So I turned out to be one of those women that test negative in the
    first weeks. Two weeks later my test was positive. I don't know
    how a home pregnancy test would have worked in this case. The doctor
    told me women can test negative up to 3 months.

I can tell you how the home test would have turned out - negative.  3 times
negative!!!  Plus one negative urine test at the lab.  After all these
negatives I told the nurse (who had called with the result) that I had
better come in because something was wrong, as I am one of those "set your 
watch to my cycle" people.  So she had me come in for a blood test, and 
wahla - positive!!!

Danielle  (Taylor's Mom - just shy of 11 months - and I can't wait for
	    OUR first birthday party!!)
dani@hpams0c.hp.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Parents vs. Teachers
From: dcs@witsend.tnet.com (D. C. Sessions)
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:57:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Nobody but me -- really
X-Mailer: TMail version 1.03

In all of the educational finger-pointing that goes on, has anyone
compared the test scores for teachers' kids against those of others
from similar incomes, etc?

Seems that this should be a useful indicator.
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