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From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.sex
Subject: Re: Monogamy, Polygamy, and raising children (Was: Falling in Love
Date: 7 Nov 92 01:57:05 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <1crvu5INN61s@agate.berkeley.edu>, spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope) writes:
> ritter@claude.ma30.bull.com (Roger Ritter) writes, and a few others
# seemingly agree:
# 
# # I'll agree that two parents raising a child is better than one.
# 
# This statement has gone uncountered as though it's truth should
# be obvious or something...
# 
# There's a strong bias in this culture against single 
# parenting.  I think it's a bias we need to get rid of.
# I think a single person can do just as good a job of 
# raising a child as a couple.
# 
# Steve

Why do two parents work better than one?  Because when one parent
gets exhausted, worn out, and drained by child-rearing, there's
another parent there to take over.  Even with a partner to share
the load, the first four or five years of child-rearing is 
immensely draining work.

I suppose in some theoretical model, a single parent could 
regularly do as good a job as two parents.  I've met single
parents who have done a very good job, better than some couples
have managed.  But I think it is no coincidence that 70% of
juvenile criminal offenses are done by kids from single parent
homes.  (See the 1991 Uniform Crime Reports for more details).

-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
The Physician Assisted Death Initiative failed.  Term limits for Congressmen
passed.  If only we could have combined the two... two terms, and a doctor
does lethal injection...
From: qwerty@drutx.ATT.COM (Brian Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: ISO MY PRINCESS
Date: 13 Nov 92 14:56:46 GMT
Organization: AT&T, Denver

in article <92317.225317WJB117@psuvm.psu.edu>, WJB117@psuvm.psu.edu says:
> 
> I AM LOOKING FOR A NICE WHITE FEMALE IN PENNSYLVANIA.   Between the ages of 20-
> 23 years old. I have brown hair, brown eyes, 6'2" big billed, and a junior in p
                                                        ^^^^^^^

This must be a posting from Howard the Duck!


> enn State university. My major is nursing so if your looking for that speacial
> attention at any hour please send mail. I just might become your personal male
> nurse. by the way here is a rose for you until you send me mail.
> --------<--------<------<------<----<@
> Until we type again. Love Bill
-- 

Brian Jones  aka  {att,allegra}!{drutx}!qwerty  @  AT&T, Denver
(303) 538-2589
Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.singles
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: Where to meet women?
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:59:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.064746.29830@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mzank@nyx.cs.du.edu (matt zank) writes:
> The reason why i post this thing in the first place is
> that all the women I have run into in school, now at
> work have a SO. btw I know that places like bars
> do not work, anyone who said shoping is the way
> is from mars. Anyway does anyone know all, and
> I mean all the women have SO's? I do think it
> is that I am in my mid 20's, it is far i see
> if one goes past 23 or so you are out of luck.

Thanks for that information.

A really out of luck 37 year old!
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: CENG51@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Craig Witkowski)
Subject: Re: Education and the Single World
Organization: Motorola
Date: 11 Nov 1992 07:04:17 CST

>Do any of the above affect how you relate to the person as a
>potential romantic interest?

>3
>    Now, what if the person in the first scenario never finished
>    college and the person in the second has a PhD.  Which one
>    would you date?  Why?

IMO, a formal degree equal to or higher than mine doesn't threaten me
nor would the lack of a formal degree in that person put me off. As
long as the possible RO can express her thoughts and comprehend the
basics of life, common interests would be more important to me than
a piece of paper saying she graduated Magna Cum Dollars.

>Just more food for thought.

That food wouldn't happen to be a banana, would it? 8^>


>Allisson
>--
>allisson@turing.toronto.edu                            H. Allisson Roome
>"Kindness is the beginning and end of the Law" - Hebrew Proverb




Craig Witkowski, CENG51@maccvm.corp.mot.com
Motorola Communications & Electronics Inc.
Glen Rock,  NJ

Let's Go Racin'!
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From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.singles
Subject: Re: What is attractive
Date: 8 Nov 92 18:16:40 GMT
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper


>In <31365@hydra.Helsinki.FI> taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina) writes:
>
>What do you find attractive in MOTAS
>
>1. when you meet them?

      1. They Are not DrugAddled Devil Worshippers
      2. They do NOT carry a Side Arm.
      3. They do Not follow the Dogma's of Hanoi Jane.
      4. They do Not work 'in the community' and have not been
	 active in a 'black project' for five years.
      5. They are Not Currently working for 'the oppostion.'
      6. They has all of her own Skin.
      7. They has ALWAYS been a Human.
      8. They Has NEVER been Dead before.
      9. They does not have lycanthropy.
     10. They are Not BrainWaveSuckingAlienBeastCreaturesFromOuterSpace
         Here to collect specimens for the zoo.

>2. once you have known them awhile?

            AND 

>3. once you think you know them well?

     1. QuatnTuum Physics between she and I.

     2. Beliefs not based of irrational dogma. And is able to
	Follow the Correct Interpretation of the OneTrue
	Implimentation of the Historical Marxist Leninist Line
	Without Rightist or Leftist Deviationalism

     3. They likes to be physically close. And will Respect me in
	the morning anyway.

     4. Does Not Think of Me Merely as a Sex Object.

     5. Can Hold Her own in a firefight should that be required.
	{This Damsel in Distress Stuff is a Drag.... When I call
	out for 'suppressive fire' I do not want her to start 
	collecting wood and thinking that she is fulfilling
	her 'womanly role' in the relationship.}

     6. They understands the differences between 'hunting and gathering.'

     7. Will Not Treat me like a Baby Merely because I dribble a
	little Hot Chocolate down my beard.

     8. Has Their own car, pad, and groovie album collection.

     9. Does Not have to be home before Midnight, or they are grounded.

    10. Does Not wish to raid my fiscal assets.


ciao
drieux


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Newsgroups: soc.singles,hsv.general,general,rec.humor.tasteless
From: tensmekl@infonode.ingr.com (Kermit Tensmeyer)
Subject: Re: Nightline and Presidential Cantidates
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:49:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.175159.2459@erenj.com> bdboyle@erenj.com (Bryan D. Boyle) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.144109.7037@infonode.ingr.com> tensmekl@infonode.ingr.com (Kermit Tensmeyer) writes:
>>
>>	WHAT?   you mean Canada isn't just another American territory.
>>
>>	I thought canucks couldn't vote in "real" elections just like
>>	the democrats in Washington DC and P.R.
>>
>> As for you "Europeans" read-that Kaaskopje's. With Clinton in power, there
>> will be much less interest in anything in Europe. From his campaign promises,
>> it's likly that there will be much less support and also money support
>> for Grand Ole Europe and such problems.  Bush at least had some type of
>> foreign policy. Clinton doesn't yet know about your problems
>                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>You're right, but as soon as the Europeans find out how to state even a specious
>case for getting some more US $$$, President Bubba and his vice-president Ozone
>will be tripping over themselves to export the aid...But they better explain
>in small words-Arkansas has one of the worst educational systems in the country.
>No wonder they improved in the last year-you can't get any lower than last place...!!!
>

  Funky Willy was right about one thing, Arkansas has the Most_Improved
  state education system in the US. They went from 51st place to to 46th
  place.  

  Did you all hear the news, Boris Yeltsin has gone begging already to
  Clinton, He has been offering even more nuclar reductions in order to
  induce Slick Willy to cough up more money so the Russians can survive.

  When the new Isolationist Government comes into power in January, the
  european communtity can try solving the problems in Eastern Europe,
  yugoslavia et.al, and when Iraq/Iran blows up some more, you'll
  get to face it alone for a while.

  There are some amazing parallel's to the pre-wwII situation. Anybody
  want to bet that Germany and France succumb to nationilistic presure
  and we get to fight WWIII in the early part of the 21 century.

  Any bet's if Belgium and Holland could live up to their Nato obligation?

  Last time I checked their combined obligation was to slow down the
  ground based invaders by 12 minutes.

  Oh yes, Britian offered to sell Canada to the US, but the US would take
  the canucks unless both France and England chipped in enough cash to
  pay off half the US national debt.   England according to State Dept
  reports considerd doing just that to get rid of Canada. I'm real glas
  we didn't get stuck with Quebec.  You might say Canada _deserves_
  Quebec.

 [ Oh yes, you all can take hsv.general out of your followups, I really
  don't want to hear from execpt in E-mail, unless you are really
  anxious to show off how smart you are to everbody else...  ]
-- 
         Kermit Tensmeyer                         | Intergraph Corporation
   klt@kt8127.b23a.ingr.com                       | Deep in Dixie
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: xanadu@t-bone.cs.unlv.edu (Thomas Wilson)
Subject: Re: Diurnal Weenies 
Organization: UNLV
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 21:26:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.143219.1089@cs.ucla.edu> coleman@rocky.cs.ucla.edu  
(Mike Coleman) writes:
> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
> |In article <lfmp4bINNb6s@news.bbn.com> ahsiung@labs-n.bbn.com (Anita  
Hsiung) writes:
> |>Gosh, it's almost 11pm, I'm still in the office.  Why am I always the
> |>one to turn on the burglar alarm?
> |11pm is late? Since when?
> |(its almost 2:30 am here, time for lunch in a few minutes :)
> |Oh wait, I get it, your one of them diurnal weenies. I see now :)
> 
> 
> Oh yeah?  Well it's 6:30am here.  Wimps.  :-)
> 
> Mike
> 
Dating in Vegas:  if you have to take her home before sunrise, 
then it just ain't working out.

Tom (The Controller of the Spice)

> 
> -- 
> --Mike Coleman (coleman@cs.ucla.edu), Lord High Executioner of  
Anhedonia-----
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: Nightline and Presidential Cantidates
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:14:20 GMT

thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:

>kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:

>>I think that taxing corporations on their profits or revenues is
>>simply silly, since they get their profits or revenues, including
>>the part that goes to pay taxes, from selling products or services.

>I sell my services to get my income, and I get taxed for it.  

If you're a private consultant, raise your fees to cover your tax
burden--pass it on to the consumer of your services.  If you're paid a
wage, try asking your employer to cover your tax burden for you.

The difference between the income tax and the corporate tax is that
corporations can simply pass their taxes on to the next in line--and
that next-in-line is ultimately the individual as consumer, who pays
her share of corporate taxes, as well as her personal income tax. 

>If you want to sweep corporate profit taxes and income taxes away at
>the same time,

I'd love to. 

>that's fine, but we'll then need to talk about a fairer
>way of getting money for government, and probably also 

Does the government really need all that money?

Those useful services the government provides that cannot be provided
by others, such as police, courts, and national defense, could be paid
for out of a modest sales tax (but NOT a vat) which would have the
added benefit of taxing consumption and not investment (savings.)  

Those other services the government provides, such as defending the
world's rich democracies, building ecologically disastrous dams in
foreign countries, and financing Imelda Marcos' shoe collection, they
could fund thru voluntary contributions and lotteries.

>need to talk a good long time about what "fair" means.

Well feel free.  :-)
-- 

Kiran Wagle                           <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Where to meet MOTOS (was Re: Where to meet women?)
From: David B. Horvath, CDP <MBADBH@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:17:51 EST
Organization: Hidden - I don't speak for them...

I teach part-time at a couple of local community (county or junior) colleges
in my area - I've seen a number of relationships start in my classes.

I teach at night/weekends, so the students are serious about their education,
and meeting for coffee after class or to study in the lounge/lab/library are
very low-pressure ways of getting to know each other.

This may not be a good place to meet "young" (18 - 22) members of the opposite
sex - my students tend not to be "traditional" (college right after high
school).  There is a heavy concentration 24-28 and 33-?? - those who took off
a few years to work/get married/hang out and those who are trying to update
their skills after job loss/marital status change/return to job market after
children.

Although I haven't noticed it occuring (which is not to say it didn't happen),
but night school could very well be a good place to meet MOTSS - but that's
a different group.

    - David
From: martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Education and the Single World
Date: 12 Nov 92 01:43:47 GMT
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: blowfish@carina.unm.edu's message of 11 Nov 92 10:36:16 GMT

In article <cacqncc@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:

   Any goober with half a brain, perseverence and luck can get a college
   degree.

Would someone explain why I'm still here then?
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
From: ivan@spider.co.uk (Ivan Reid)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Naff 1-liners (Was: Kind Rejection (Wa
Date: 5 Nov 92 10:34:03 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, SCOTLAND.

Here's one a friend had said to her, "I can't be bothered" 
I've never said the same but thought it once or twice! :-)
-- 
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"Information is Power ..."                                   Spider Systems Ltd
vox: (+44 31) 554 9424                                 Spider Park, Stanwell St
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From: mysti@sybase.com (Mysti)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: a question in search of an answer!!!
Keywords: men
Date: 12 Nov 92 00:19:12 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <644@ka2qhd.de.com> bill@ka2qhd.de.com (Bill Luzenko) writes:
>but when two men do the same they are two homos? Can someone answer this

I humbly suggest that the real question here is "why do people think
two gay men are something to get upset over"....


--
========================
Mysti Rubert, Oaktown, California

"It't not the men in my life, but the life in my men."  Mae West
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: Shaking hands with a girl
Summary: The TRUE story from a real sailor!
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:20:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.174250.17195@maths.tcd.ie>, mcdavey@maths.tcd.ie (Matthew Davey) writes:
> >>  While were on the subject of manners does anyone knows if one is supposed
> >>  to pass the port from the left or the right?
> 
> Pass the port TO the left. 
> -- 
> 
> Matthew C. Davey      Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine -
> mcdavey@maths.tcd.ie     that's why several of us died of tuberculosis.

A lot of people have answered this and you are all wrong.
You don't pass a port at all, you pull into the port, get drunk, and chase
women.


SAILORS FOREVER!!!
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Do you remember 1970 to 1980?
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:48:42 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Nov12.132050.463@cbnews.cb.att.com> eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (eleanor.j.evans) writes:
|In article <2FdArAZNBh106h@wildrose.infoserv.com> wildrose!rkf@infoserv.com writes:
|>GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu writes:
|>>      As part of an impromptu research project, I'd like to know what
|>>  YOU think the single most important ( dramatic, traumatic ) event of`
|>>  1970 to 1980 was.
|
|The day my baby sister was born.  My _twin_ baby sister.....

Piglet has a twin seester?  Hubba Hubba.

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
+==========================================================================+
Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.singles
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: just a small question
Followup-To: alt.sex,soc.singles 
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:15:57 GMT

bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:

] >>What do you find attractive in MOTAS
] >>
] >>1. when you meet them?
] >
] A set of knockers the size of Cleveland.
] 
] >>2. once you have known them awhile?
] 
] A eagerness to expose a set of knockers the size of Cleveland.
] 
] >            AND 
] >
] >>3. once you think you know them well?
] >
] <See above>
] 

you wouldn't be, perchance, what they call a 'tit man' are you?


ciao
drieux


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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: girl/lady/female  boy/guy/male
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:39:39 GMT

In article <BxH37C.n4H@news.udel.edu>, todd@chester.cms.udel.edu (Todd Sanders) writes:
> 
> So I ask this group, which has a large % of female participants,  is gender neutral terminology to be expected?
> 
> Thanks, and God helping this will not flame off.
> 
> Todd


First off I expect to see flames on this issue, in fact I think I heard someone
looking for a gas can already.

I am not a female participant, although I do like to parti...Never mind, but
I will answer the question and mahaps fan the flames.

I think it should be taken on a case by case basis, as to who is doing the
speaking and what the speakers attitudes are.  If you know someone well enough
to realize they mean no insult, where is the harm???  If you don't know whether
the person means it in a demeaning way, I can understand being upset or at
least tenitive, and if you are sure they mean it in a demeaning way, get 
downright POed.   I have never had any female friends seem to get upset by
my refering to them as girls vs women, because they know I am not being
derogatory.

I have been called much worse things (by friends) than boy and not been upset,
and have gotten fighting mad by the way others have said my name.

And the moral of this story (boys and girls) is if insult is intended, take it
as such, if it is not intended, don't look for it.

Larry Billings
Most of us are sad, No one lets it show,
I've been shadows of myself,How was I to know?         Eagles
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From: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu (Randy Zagar)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Apology !!
Date: 11 Nov 92 02:14:17 GMT
Reply-To: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu
Organization: Marine Studies, University of Delaware

I'd like to apologize for one of the earlier articles.  The "From" address
was "Todd Sanders" but the .sig was mine.  Apparently after 5 months of use
I've discovered a waaay subtle bug in the news software.

I won't even try to explain it 'cause I'm not sure I'm a big
enough unix weenie to *KNOW* I understand the problem...           8^>

Anyway, I'm in the process of wading thru
the 11,488 lines of code so I can fix the bug...    8^<
    ^^^^^^

-Randy

p.s.	If any of you soc.singles people are using xvnews on a Sun,
	e-mail me and I'll send you the fixed version after I cook
	one up...

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From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Monogamy, Polygamy, and raising children (Was: Falling in Love
Date: 7 Nov 92 17:28:08 GMT
	<1992Nov6.143205.15324@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com's message of 6 Nov 92 14:32:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.143205.15324@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:

   On the same note, whenever my parents argued or even had a mild
   disagreement, they felt they needed to "shelter" us from that
   horrible stuff so they'd switch to their native Czech language, which
   none of us kids understood.  I don't think they realized that it's
   rude to speak another language in front of people who don't
   understand it to intentionally exclude them from the conversation.
   It provided us three kids with an unrealistic view of married life
   and that it's OK to be rude.  :-)

It's odd how different Eastern European ideas of politeness are -- at
least in the lower classes, as the Hungarian part of my family was.
Apparently, "swearing" was much more acceptable.  For example, I really
believe that my Grandmother (who really was a sweet earth-mother sort of
old lady) thought to the day she died that the proper English word for
vagina was "pussy".


--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T