From: Christophe.Wolfhugel@grasp.insa-lyon.fr (Christophe Wolfhugel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french,news.answers
Subject: FAQ: soc.culture.french 2/2 [monthly]
Supersedes: <scf-faq-part2.11@grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr>
Followup-To: soc.culture.french
Date: 17 Nov 1992 22:48:20 +0100
Organization: INSA Informatique (Grasp), Lyon, France
Expires: 27 Dec 1992 22:47:45 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr
Summary: This bilingual (french-english) article is intended for readers inte-
  rested in the soc.culture.french newsgroup and contains relevant information
  about french-speaking countries and answers to frequently asked questions.

Archive-name: culture-french-faq/part2
Version: $Id: part2,v 1.5 92/10/18 10:37:03 wolf Exp $

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Subject: 18. Saving date/winter time: when ?
             Changements d'heures: dates et decalages.

Europe: Dernier week-end de mars dans la nuit de samedi a dimanche a 2h00.
        Dernier week-end de septembre dans la nuit de samedi a dimanche a 3h00.

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Subject: 19. About Paris
             Au sujet de Paris

    a. Where should I go if I come for one week to Paris ?
       Quels endroits visiter si l'on vient une semaine a Paris ?

    b.  If I go to Paris, what are good restaurants to go to ?
        Si je vais a Paris, quels seraient des bons restaurants ?

    c.  If I go to Paris, what are cheap hotels to go to ?
        Si je vais a Paris, quels seraient les hotels pas chers?

When I've stayed in Paris I've had pretty good luck with a place called the
Hotel Marcadet Plaisance on rue Marcadet in the 18th.  Not very close to
the center of action, but close to a Metro stop -- and lots of North African
accents (couscous places etc) if that's at all of interest.  In December 91 it
ran 180FF/night for a double with private toilet/bath; there's a phone in the
room but no TV.

My employer uses a place near the Arc de Triomphe called the Hotel Stella,
which is a step or two above the places I've mentioned and which runs
about 320FF/night -- which is better than most of the 2-3 star places that get
into the 400s and 500s francs per night.
::::::::::::::
For Paris, you can try the hotels in the "Let's Go" Europe. They are normally
clean and cheap.
As for myself, I know a quiet a quite cheap hotel. It is in the 6th
arrondissement, which is not the quartier latin, but close to it,
between it and the Musee d'Orsay. It's called "Hotel Welcome", the
address is "rue de Seine, Paris VI" and the phone number is available
from the international phone inquiries. It's an old couple who manages
the hotel and they are very friendly. You should make a reservation in
advance. The room should be about FF 250 / night.
::::::::::::::
I stayed about 2 years ago in a hotel about 2 minutes walk from Notre
Dame. It had in-room shower and toilet and a queensize bed. The room
was pretty small and it's not comparable to American standards (probably
most of the European hotels are not comparable, much more expensive and
you get less). But me and my girlfriend liked it. They even brought up
the breakfast (included in roomrate) to the room at no additional charge.
And the best- it is quite reasonable pricewise (don't remeber exact price
but it was in the range of $30 a night). The address:
Hotel Les Argonautes
12 Rue de la Huchette
75500520 Paris
phone France-1-43540982
::::::::::::::
I know a litle but good hotel near Place d'Italie;
Hotel Manet (15, rue Edouard-Manet / 75013 / Paris)
tel.: (331) 45.86.35.99
A room with WC and bath = 285FF  but you can find a room by 230FF.
::::::::::::::
Try to find a book in the bookstores called Cheap Sleeps in Paris.
Let's Go France '92 is good. What looks best from the books to me is in the
Bastille. 11e Hotel de la Nouvelle France, 31 rue Keller 47 00 40 74 Metro
Ledru-Rollin Double 150-180FF with shower. No reservations. In Le Marais,
Hotel de Sejour 36 rue de Grenier St-Lazare, 3e 48 87 40 36, Metro Rambuteau.
Lots of light and classy hardwood floors. 131F, showers 10F.
::::::::::::::
I stayed in the Familia Hotel, 11 Rue des Ecoles, 75005 Paris, in
Dec-Jan 1985 while doing some software installation.  Then it cost
about $26/night, including continental breakfast.  I had a room with
private bath(shower, no tub) and double bed.  It was about a 15 minute
walk to the Sorbonne and Blvd St-Michel (left bank), and a 5 minute
walk to a metro station from which you could go anywhere in a very
short time for little money.  On the same street and in the same area
there were several small hotels which looked as if they would be in
the same category...inexpensive, clean, friendly staff, conveniently
located, etc.
::::::::::::::
Hotel des Carmes, rue des Carmes.  It is located near the latin quarter, Notre-
Dame, Boulevard Saint-Michel etc. The breakfast are super: croissants, chocolat,
cafe, the', etc... And in addition it is very CHEAP.
::::::::::::::
I know of a nice hotel at $60 per night on Ave Motte-Picquet near the Metro stop
in Paris.  Ask for a room at the rear, hidden from the street -- much quieter.
::::::::::::::
My favourite one is Hotel Tiquetonne, 6 rue Tiquetonne (metro Etienne-Marcel)
                tel 42 36 94 58
Thats in a small street near rue Saint-Denis, Beaubourg, etc, but
in a quiet place.
Unfortunately, it's often full...
::::::::::::::
Hotel des Grandes Ecoles
75 rue du Cardinal Lemoine
75005 Paris
(1) 43 26 79 23
Call as soon as possible, they are in high demand.
In January, I got a room for 300F.
::::::::::::::

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Subject: 20. Address/Phone number of the closest French Consulate ?
             Address/Phone number of the French embassy?

USA
===

Ambassy:  Washington D.C: (202)-944-6000

Consulate: New York City : fifth av., around 75-77th street.
                           Open between 9am and 1pm
                           (212)-606-3688
           San Francisco : 540 Bush St.
                           San Francisco, CA 94108 USA
                           (415) 397 43 30
                           (415) 981 79 99 (Repondeur, nouvelles en francais)
           Chicago       : 737 Michigan Avenue
                           Chicago, Il 60610
                           (312) 787-5359
                           (312) 787-7889 :  Visa Dept
                           (312) 787-6657 :  Etat Civil

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Subject: 21. Do technical French/English dictionnary exist ?
             Existe-t-il des dictionnaires techniques francais/anglais ?

    a. Dictionnaire d'informatique Larousse. J'ai une vieille edition
       de 1981, mais j'ai vu l'autre jour a la librairie qu'il y en
       avait une nouvelle. Ce dictionnaire explique de nombreux termes
       et concepts et se termine par un court lexique anglais-francais.

    b. Dictionnaire des telecommunications, Antoine Odier & Mohamed Zennaki.
       Marabout Service, No. MS968.  C'est une petite merveille.  D'un
       cote le terme francais, de l'autre l'anglais, le tout suivi d'une
       definition ou d'une explication historique.

    c. Dictionnaire bilingue d'informatique (Anglais-Francais, Francais-Anglais)
       Alain Wiard & Ilya Virgatchick, Marabout Service, MS699.
       J'ai vu dans la liste Marabout un autre dictionnaire bilingue
       d'informatique portant le numero MS839. Il s'agit sans doute
       d'une edition plus recente du precedent.

    Deux dictionnaires techniques beaucoup plus complets:
    Two much more complete technical dictionnaries:

    d. Dictionnaire anglais-francais d'informatique
       Michel Ginguay
       10e edition
       Masson, 1990 ISBN: 2-225-81988-2
       Il existe aussi une version francais-anglais, 3e ou 4e edition.

    e. Dictionnaire anglais-francais des telecommunications
       Johanne de Luca
       Masson, 1988 ISBN: 2-225-81063-X

    For more information, email to:

       Michele Simond           michele%catnix@cam.org

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Subject: 22. What'about the BBS in France ?
             Quoi de neuf au sujet des BBS en france ?

 As you can see, it isn't an updated version.

 Date: Mar 8, 91
 Filename: BBSF9103
 Copyright (C) EXETONE, 1991
______________________________________________________________________________
 This file features a detailed list of | Ce fichier propose une liste detaillee
 french BBS open to the general public.| des BBS francais ouverts au public.
                                       |
 The latest release of this file can   | La version la plus recente de ce fi-
 be either downloaded from EXETONE     | chier peut etre soit telecharge depuis
 (56-81-10-20) or file requested from  | EXETONE (56-81-10-20), soit requise
 2:32/11@Fidonet or 2:324/4@Fidonet    | aux noeuds 2:32/11 ou 2:324/4 du re-
 using the magic name of BBSF.         | seau Fidonet en utilisant le nom "ma-
                                       | gique" de BBSF.
                                       |
 Please, do not modify this file your- | Merci de ne pas modifier ce fichier.
 self. Forward updates, errors and     | Envoyez vos mises a jour, notification
 suggestions using BBSF.Q-A, a ques-   | d'erreurs et suggestions, en utilisant
 tionnaire included in BBSFxxxx.ZIP,   | le questionnaire BBSF.Q-A inclus dans
 to:                                   | le fichier BBSFxxxx.ZIP, a :

                      BBS = EXETONE, Bordeaux, France
                        Tel= (Int'l 33) 56-81-10-20
                        Fidonet 2:32/11 or 2:324/4
                          SysOp = Yannick Pinson

  If you are calling a french BBS from a location outside France, add the
 33- international prefix to the BBS phone number. Phone numbers within the
 Paris area start with a 1- prefix. If you are calling a BBS inside the Paris
 area from a location within the same area, remove the 1- prefix from the BBS
 phone number. If you are calling a BBS outside the Paris area from a location
 within the Parix area, add the 16- prefix to the BBS phone number. If you are
 calling a BBS in the Paris area from a location outside the Paris area, add
 the 16- prefix to the BBS phone number.

                       AREA CODING / CODAGE DES REGIONS:

 A                    B  C           D E G                     F =
============================================================================

 NAME               PHONE(S)    BAUD RATE(S) :: BBS SYSTEM :: NETWORK(S) ::
                                SYSOP :: CITY [AREA] :: HOURS :: LANGUAGE(S) ::
                                FILES in Mbytes :: OFF-LINE MESSAGE READER(S)
                                :: {FEATURE(S)}
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Nom                No Telephone   Vitesse(s) de modem :: Logiciel du BBS ::
                                Affiliation(s) rseau :: SysOp :: Ville [Rgion]
                                :: Heures de fonctionnement :: Langue(s) ::
                                Fichiers en Moctets (Mb) :: Lecteur de messages
                                off-line :: {Spcialits}
 ============================================================================
 ALF             1-39-50-46-98  1200/2400/9600/14400 HST V42bis :: Spitfire ::
                                FidoNet 2:320/10 :: Stef Evain :: Versailles [D]
                                :: 00:00-24:00 :: French, English :: 20 Mb ::
                                Megamail, SFMAIL :: {Games, graphics, PMU,
                                Fidonet conferences}

 AVOCK           1-42-93-95-09  300/1200/2400/9600/14400 HST MNP :: Spitfire ::
                                Cyril Perdereau :: Paris, [D] :: 00:00-24:00 ::
                                French, English :: 35 Mb :: Megamail ::
                                {Windows, Music, Imaging}

 CENTRE DU MONDE   68-38-82-54  300/1200/2400 :: RemoteAccess ::
                                FidoNet 2:324/90 :: Bruno Gregoire ::
                                Perpignan [G] :: 00:00-24:00 :: French

 DINGOMICRO        20-23-72-65  300/1200/2400/9600 HST V32
                   20-23-71-09  300/1200/2400 :: RemoteAccess :: FidoNet 2:322/1
                                :: Phillipe Galle :: Halluin [A] :: 00:00-24:00
                                :: French

 DID'BBS         1-40-21-88-91  300/1200/2400/9600 HST V42bis :: Wildcat ::
                                Didier Dore :: Paris [D] :: 00:00-24:00 ::
                                French

 ERANA'S PEACE     61-39-91-98  300/1200/2400/9600/14400 HST MNP V42 ::
                                RemoteAccess :: Lif-Net 102:330/1 ::
                                Fidonet 2:2/702 :: Toulouse [F] :: 00:00-24:00
                                :: French/English :: 30 Mb :: XRS :: {Education,
                                K12, Environment, EARTHNET}

 EXETONE           56-81-10-20  300/1200/2400 MNP :: RemoteAccess ::
                                FidoNet 2:324/4 :: Lif-Net 102:330/100 ::
                                Yannick Pinson :: Bordeaux [F] :: 00:00-24:00 ::
                                French/English :: 80 Mb :: Megamail :: {K12,
                                OUF, Fidonet conferences}

FLOATING POINT   1-43-94-95-00  300/1200
                 1-43-94-34-63  300/1200/2400
                 1-43-94-38-40  300/1200/2400/9600/14400 HST V32 ::
                                Laurent Cas & Cedric Ingrand :: {USENET,
                                On-line games}

FREELAND         1-48-29-72-79  300/1200/2400 :: PCBoard :: FidoNet 2:320/202
                                Stephane Vinit :: Saint-Denis [D] :: 00:00-24:00
                                :: French, English :: 60 Mb :: QWK ::
                                {ATARI & PC Telecommunications}

GENESIS            56-59-18-57  300/1200 :: RemoteAccess :: FidoNet 2:324/3 ::
                                Philipe Gracia :: Bordeaux [F] :: 00:00-24:00 ::
                                French

ICEBERG          1-47-69-92-61  300/1200/2400/9600/14400 HST V32 :: RemoteAccess
                                FidoNet 2:320/102 :: Laurent Siraponian
                                Paris [D] :: 00:00-24:00 :: French

IMLADRIS         1-45-46-22-27  300/1200/2400 :: QuickBBS :: Bertrand Petit ::
                                Chevilly-Larue [D] ::  00:00-24:00 :: French ::
                                {Atari}

JARDIN DE LA FRANCE  47-28-03-18  300/1200/2400 :: RemoteAccess  ::
                                FidoNet 2:321/2 :: Bernard Salle ::
                                St Avertin [E]  :: 00:00-24:00   ::  French

KSM+             1-48-21-81-13  300/1200/2400 V23
                 1-48-21-29-26  2400/9600/14400 HST MNP V32
                                RemoteAccess :: FidoNet 2:320/1 ::
                                Lif-Net 102:332/0 :: Mic Ralle :: Paris [D] ::
                                00:00-24:00 :: 220 Mb :: XRS :: French ::
                                {K12/FIDO/LIF-NET conf., UNIX NEWS}

LE PONT D'AVIGNON  90-85-04-30  300/1200/2400
                   90-82-79-55  300/1200/2400/9600 HST V32
                                Lynx :: FidoNet 2:323/1 :: Jacques Martin ::
                                Avignon [G] :: 00:00-24:00 :: French

LI'LL            1-40-82-90-96  1200/2400/9600/14400 HST :: PC-Board ::
                                FidoNet 2:320/7, Interlink :: Attila Altan ::
                                Paris [D] :: 00:00-24:00 :: English :: 150 Mb ::
                                Qmail, Megamail :: {Interlink France, OUF,
                                Fidonet,...}

LINN             1-46-55-37-91  300/1200/2400/9600 HST V42 :: QuickBBS ::
                                FidoNet 2:320/4 :: Vincent Pomey :: Paris [D] ::
                                00:00-24:00 :: French :: {Atari, Amiga}

MODULA           1-40-43-01-24  2400/9600/14400 HST V32
                 1-45-30-12-48  1200/2400/9600/14400 HST
                                PC-Board :: Interlink ::  Michel Parlebas ::
                                Paris [D] :: 00:00-24:00 :: French ::
                                {Modula, C, Pascal, Ada, Lisp...}

OS/2 MANIA       1-64-09-04-60  300/1200/2400/9600 HST V42
                 1-64-09-06-63  300/1200/2400 MNP
                                Maximus-CBCS :: FidoNet 2:320/5 :: Emmanuel
                                Sandorfi :: Paris [D] :: 00:00-24:00 :: French
                                :: {OS/2}

PAUL'S BBS         48-67-09-07  300/1200/2400 ::  CASL :: Paul Milliot ::
                                Bourges [E] :: 00:00-24:00 :: French/English ::
                                {OUF}

PICONET            90-77-60-15  300/1200/2400/9600/14400 HST V32 :: Robert
                                Kuhman :: St Martin De La Brasque [G] ::
                                00:00-24:00 :: English :: {PicoNet Club}

PORT DE LA LUNE    56-89-51-12  300/1200/2400/9600/14400 HST V32 :: RemoteAccess
                                :: FidoNet 2:324/1, SIGNet :: Robert Soubie ::
                                Bordeaux [F] :: 00:00 - 24:00 :: French ::
                                {Astronomy}

SHEM'S BOARD       56-07-39-15  300/1200/2400/9600 HST :: RemoteAccess ::
                                FidoNet 2:324/2 ::  Claude Paput :: Bordeaux [F]
                                :: 00:00 - 24:00 :: French

SOS MICRO        1-46-21-32-70  300/1200/2400/9600 :: PC-Board :: Interlink ::
                                00:00-24:00 :: French

SPRINT OF CYRIELLE 38-92-03-33  300/1200/2400/9600/14400 HST V32 :: RemoteAccess
                                :: FidoNet 2:321/6 :: Bruno Bendaoud ::
                                Thorailles [E] :: 10:00-24:00 :: French ::
                                {Clipper}

SUPTEL           1-48-99-12-00  1200/2400 MNP
                 1-48-99-43-00  1200/2400 MNP
                 1-48-98-03-00  9600 V32
                 1-48-99-58-58  14400 HST V42
                                PC-Board :: Interlink :: Lionel Bruno ::
                                Paris [D] ::  00:00 - 24:00 ::
                                French/English/German/Spanish... ::
                                {Microtel, OUF, ...}

SYNERGY            61-63-08-61  300/1200/2400 :: RemoteAccess :: FidoNet 2:325/2
                                :: Marc Neiger :: Toulouse [F] :: 00:00-24:00 ::
                                French

THE LYS VALLEY     20-39-93-42  300/1200/2400/9600/14400 HST V42 ::
                                RemoteAccess :: FidoNet 2:322/2 ::
                                Edmond Vandermeersch :: Wervicq [A] ::
                                00:00- 24:00:: French

TMS INW The InterNetwork BBS
                   47-52-30-58  300/1200/2400/9600/14400 HST V42
                   47-52-30-61  300/1200/2400/9600 V32
                   47-52-30-63  300/1200/2400
                                RemoteAccess :: FidoNet 2:321/1, SIGNet ::
                                Pascal Brisset :: Tours [E] :: 00:00-24:00 ::
                                French

TOP 50           1-43-59-05-63  300/1200/2400/9600/14400 HST V32 bis
                 1-43-59-05-62  300/1200/2400/9600 V32
                                RemoteAccess :: FidoNet 2:320/6 :: Yan Wolf ::
                                Paris [D] :: 00:00-24:00 :: French ::
                                {On-line shopping}

WINDOWS LINK       20-47-31-76  300/1200/2400 MNP :: Philipe Dupont ::
                                {Graphic interfaces}

YELL'OP          1-49-37-19-47  300/1200 :: Maximus :: FidoNet 2:320/8,
                                Lif-Net 102:332/2 ::  Frank Nhieu :: Paris [D]
                                :: 00:00-24:00 :: French :: Silver Xpress ::
                                {Environment}

Following is the A.C.M.E list for August 1992, the presentation is a
little different from the previous, but the list seems more complete,
thus there are less details.

 +------------------------------------------------------------------+
 |                      Liste des BBS Francais                      |
 |                       (c) A.C.M.E BBS 1992                       |
 |                             Aout 1992                            |
 +---------------------+---------------+-----+----------------------+
 |          BBS        |    Nx Tel     | BMax|  Ville               |
 +---------------------+---------------+-----+----------------------+
 | A.C.M.E.            |   84.26.86.06 | 2400| Belfort         (90) |
 | AGORA               |   57.22.19.72 | 9600| Bordeaux        (33) |
 | ALF                 | 1.30.21.43.83 | 9600| Versailles      (78) |
 | ALF                 | 1.39.50.46.98 |14400| Versailles      (78) |
 | ALF                 | 1.39.51.26.25 |14400| Versailles      (78) |
 | ALIAS BBS           | 1.30.70.87.94 | 9600| Velizy          (78) |
 | ARIANE MEDIA SYSTEMS|   56.47.40.98 | 2400| Merignac        (33) |
 | BUBULLE SYSTEM      | 1.30.51.65.04 |14400| Maurepas        (78) |
 | BUGS & REPORT       | 1.47.69.91.72 | 9600| Bois-Colombes   (75) |
 | CHINCHILLA BBS      | 1.40.60.73.92 |14400| Paris           (75) |
 | CYRIELLE            |   38.92.03.33 |14400| Thorailles           |
 | DID'BBS             | 1.40.21.88.91 | 9600| Paris           (75) |
 | DINGO MICRO         |   20.03.39.22 |14400| Roncq           (59) |
 | DINGO MICRO         |   20.03.39.23 | 9600| Roncq           (59) |
 | ERANA'S PEACE       |   61.39.91.98 | 9600| Toulouse        (31) |
 | FONDATION           | 1.44.18.06.07 |14400| Paris           (75) |
 | FREELAND            | 1.48.29.72.79 | 2400| Saint-Denis     (75) |
 | FRMUG               | 1.39.56.02.54 | 2400| Jouy en Josas   (78) |
 | FRMUG               | 1.39.56.82.66 |14400| Jouy en Josas   (78) |
 | GEORGE'S HOME       |   78.21.96.65 |14400| Lyon            (69) |
 | GRAPHIX BBS         | 1.42.09.12.90 | 2400| Paris           (75) |
 | HERMES              |   83.28.20.82 | 2400| Villers/Nancy   (54) |
 - HERMES CENTER BBS   | 1.69.00.76.72 |14400| Quincy\Senart   (91) |
 | ICEBERG             | 1.47.69.92.61 |14400| La Garrenne Colo(92) |
 | IMLADRIS            | 1.45.46.22.27 | 2400| Chevilly-Larue  (75) |
 | ISA ECHIROLLES      |   76.09.44.99 | 1200| ECHIROLLES      (38) |
 | ISA-BBS             |   81.49.56.98 | 9600| Levier          (39) |
 | J.M.D. COM BBS      |   87.55.07.38 |14400| Metz            (57) |
 | J.M.D. COM BBS      |   87.55.08.39 | 9600| Metz            (57) |
 | J.M.D. COM BBS      |   87.56.14.83 | 1200| Metz            (57) |
 | JARDIN DE LA FRANCE |   47.28.03.18 | 2400| St Avertin      (37) |
 | KING'S VALLEY       |   47.54.37.78 | 2400| St Cyr               |
 | L'ART DES CHOIX!    |   75.67.61.64 |14400| Saint Clair     (07) |
 | LE PONT D'AVIGNON   |   90.82.79.55 |14400| Avignon         (84) |
 | LE PONT D'AVIGNON   |   90.85.04.30 | 2400| Avignon         (84) |
 | LI'LL BBS           | 1.43.07.40.97 |14400| Paris           (75) |
 | LI'LL BBS           | 1.43.07.43.68 |14400| Paris           (75) |
 | LINN                | 1.49.65.05.42 | 9600| Paris           (75) |
 | MICROTEC BBS        |   47.29.33.85 | 9600| St Christophe/Na(37) |
 | MODULA              | 1.40.43.01.24 |14400| Paris           (75) |
 | MODULA              | 1.45.30.12.48 |14400| Paris           (75) |
 - ON-LINE BBS         | 1.47.41.06.81 | 2400| Garches         (92) |
 | OPUS                |   56.95.74.60 |14400| St Medard-Jalle (33) |
 | OS/2 MANIA          | 1.64.09.04.60 | 9600| Paris           (75) |
 | OS/2 MANIA          | 1.64.09.06.63 | 2400| Paris           (75) |
 | OUT-TIME BBS        | 1.47.75.02.67 | 9600| La Defense      (92) |
 | PAUL'S BBS          |   48.67.09.07 | 9600| Bourges         (18) |
 | PICONET             |   90.07.72.48 |14400| St Martin-Brasque    |
 | PORT DE LA LUNE     |   56.75.20.69 | 2400| Bordeaux        (33) |
 | PORT DE LA LUNE     |   56.89.51.12 |14400| Bordeaux        (33) |
 | PSMAC1              | 1.60.10.40.08 | 2400| Paris           (75) |
 | RAMSES THE AMIGA FLY|   60.03.70.15 |14400| Dammartin/Goele (77) |
 | RAYFRACT            | 1.69.46.29.95 |14400| St Michel/Orge  (91) |
 | ROCK'N JAZZ BBS     | 1.40.54.86.04 | 2400| Paris           (75) |
 | ROUND MIDNIGHT BBS  | 1.44.15.92.70 |14400| Paris           (75) |
 | S.B.S.I.            | 1.34.83.11.98 |14400| Versailles      (78) |
 - SEB'S AMIGA BBS     |   97.27.14.10 | 2400| St Ily          (56) |
 | SOFTEL              |   56.87.07.13 | 2400| Villenave d'Orno(33) |
 | SOS MICRO           | 1.46.21.32.70 | 9600| Paris           (75) |
 | SUPTEL              | 1.48.98.03.00 | 9600| Paris           (75) |
 | SUPTEL              | 1.48.99.12.00 | 2400| Paris           (75) |
 | SUPTEL              | 1.48.99.43.00 | 2400| Paris           (75) |
 | SUPTEL              | 1.48.99.58.58 |14400| Paris           (75) |
 | SUPTEL NANCY        |   83.53.16.17 | 2400| Nancy           (54) |
 | SUPTEL NANCY        |   83.53.20.21 |14400| Nancy           (54) |
 | SYNERGY             |   61.63.08.61 |14400| Toulouse             |
 | THE LOFTY CAVE      | 1.60.66.05.87 | 2400| Orgenoy         (77) |
 | THE LYNKS           |   20.39.78.79 | 2400| Wambrechies     (59) |
 | THE LYS VALLEY      |   20.39.22.25 | 9600| Wervicq-Sud     (59) |
 | THE LYS VALLEY      |   20.39.22.36 | 9600| Wervicq-Sud     (59) |
 | THE LYS VALLEY      |   20.39.93.42 | 9600| Wervicq-Sud     (59) |
 | THE PARISIAN MEDICAL| 1.40.25.05.85 | 9600| Paris           (75) |
 | THE TEMPLE OF SOFT  | 1.49.83.75.18 | 9600| Paris           (75) |
 | THE WINDOWS MANOR   | 1.41.10.84.93 |14400| Paris           (75) |
 | TMS_INW             |   47.52.30.58 |14400| Tours           (47) |
 | TMS_INW             |   47.52.30.61 |14400| Tours           (47) |
 | TMS_INW             |   47.52.30.63 | 9600| Tours           (47) |
 | TOP 50              | 1.43.59.05.62 |14400| Paris           (75) |
 | TOP 50              | 1.43.59.05.63 |14400| Paris           (75) |
 | TOP 50              | 1.43.59.94.30 | 9600| Paris           (75) |
 | TOP 50              | 1.45.62.81.50 |14400| Paris           (75) |
 | TOP 50              | 1.45.62.97.65 |14400| Paris           (75) |
 | TOP 50              | 1.45.62.97.66 |14400| Paris           (75) |
 | WILLOCH             |   90.26.31.16 | 2400| Pujaut               |
 | WINDOWS LINK        |   20.47.31.76 |14400| Villeneuve d'Asq     |
 | ZYLLIUS             |   93.32.05.05 | 9600| St Paul         (06) |
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Subject: 23. What's about income tax of American in France or French in USA?
             A propos des impots pour les Americains en France ou les Francais
             aux USA.

Cet extrait du journal Officiel provient d'un poly que la Commission
Franco-Americaine (9, rue Chardin, Paris) edite chaque annee. Je ne serai en
aucun cas tenu pour responsable des actions prises par certains au vu de cet
article.
D'apres la Commision, certains AssistantShip sont automatiquement amputes du
prelevement et ce n'est que sur requete que la somme peut etre recuperee.
La Commision precise que la Convention ne s'applique bien evidemment qu'aux
sommes percues dans le cadre des contrats ayant donne lieu a l'attribution du
visa...
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        Extraits du decret No 68797 du 23 Aout 1968 portant publication de la
Convention entre la France et les Etats-unis d'Amerique en matiere d'impots sur
le revenu et sur la fortune du 28 juillet 1967

        Publication au Journal Officiel No 214

        du Mercredi 11 Septembre 1968 (p.8 692 a 8 699)

        ARTICLE 17: ENSEIGNANTS

I. Une personne physique qui est resident d'un Etat contractant au debut de son
sejour dans l'autre Etat contractant et qui, a l'invitation du Gouvernement et
de l'autre Etat contractant ou d'une Universite ou d'un autre etablissement
d'enseignement agree situe dans cet autre Etat contractant, sejourne dans ce
dernier Etat principalement dans le but d'enseigner ou de se livrer a des
travaux de recherche, ou dans l'un ou l'autre de ces buts, aupres d'une
Universite ou d'un autre etablissement superieur agree, est exonere d'impots
dans ce dernier Etat contractant, pendant une periode n'excedant pas deux annee
a compter de la date de son arrivee dans ledit Etat, a raison de ses revenus
qui proviennent des services personnels rendus aux fins d'enseignement ou de
recherche dans cet etablissement d'enseignement ou dans d'autres etablissements
analogues.
2. Le present article n'est pas applicable aux revenus provenant de travaux de
recherche si ces travaux ne sont pas entrepris dans l'interet public mais
principalement en vue de la realisation d'un avantage particulier beneficiant a
une ou a des personnes determinees.

        ARTICLE 18: ETUDIANTS ET STAGIAIRES

1.
A. Une personne physique qui est resident d'un Etat contractant au debut de son
sejour dans l'autre Etat contractant et qui sejourne temporairement dans cet
autre Etat dans le but principal:
        a. de poursuivre des etudes dans une Universite ou d'un autre
etablissement d'enseignement agree situe dans cet autre Etat ou
        b. d'effectuer un stage destine a assurer la formation necessaire a
l'exercice d'une profession ou d'une specialite professionnelle ou
        c. d'etudier ou d'effectuer des recherches en tant que beneficiaire
d'une bourse, d'une allocation ou d'une recompense recue d'une organisation
gouvernementale, religieuse, charitable, litteraire, ou educative,
Est exoneree d'impots, dans cet autre Etat contractant a raison des sommes
visees a l'alinea B.
B. Les sommes auxquelles se refere l'alinea A comprennent:
        a. les subsides recus de l'etranger en vue de l'entretien, l'education
des etudes, des recherches ou de la formation.
        b. la bourse, l'allocation ou la recompense.
        c. les revenus provenant de services personnels rendus dans l'autre
Etat contractant et n'excedant pas un montant de 2,000 dollars ou leur
equivalent en francs au cours de l'annee d'imposition.
C. ces avantages prevus par le present paragraphe sont limites a la periode de
temps qui est raisonnablement ou habituellement requise pour realiser l'objet
du sejour, mais une personne physique ne peut en aucun cas beneficier des
avantages de cet article et de l'article 17 pendant plus de cinq annees
d'imposition au total.
2. Un resident d'un Etat contractant, employe d'un resident de cet etat ou sous
contrat avec ledit resident, qui sejourne dans l'autre Etat contractant, dans
le but principal de:
        a. d'acquerir une experience technique, professionnelle ou commerciale
aupres d'une personne autre que le resident du premier Etat, ou autre qu'une
societe dont la moitie au moins des droits de vote appartient au resident du
premier Etat;
        b. de poursuivre des etudes aupres d'une Universite ou d'un autre
etablissement d'enseignement agree situe dans un autre Etat contractant,
est exonere d'impots dans cet autre Etat contractant pendant une annee
d'imposition a raison de ses revenus provenant de services personnels n'exedant
pas 5,000 dollars ou leur equivalent en francs francais.

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CONVENTIONS INTERNATIONALES  3450

Convention Franco Americaine. Situation des enseignements et professeurs
(note du 19 aout 1966

Service des Relations Internationales : Bureau V.A.I.

        Dans le cadre d'un accord intervenu pour l'application de la convention
Franco-Americaine du 25 juillet 1939 modifiee, il a ete convenu que les
enseignants ou les professeurs domicilies dans l'un des deux Etats et qui se
rendent temporairement dans l'autre pour y exercer leur activite ne sont pas
soumis a l'impot dans ce dernier Etat.
        Il s'ensuit que les enseignantsou professeurs residents en France qui
vont exercer leur activite aux Etats-Unis, a titre temporaire, sont exoneres,
de l'impot Americain, pour les renumerations afferentes a cette activite.
        Cette mesure produisant retroactivement ses effets a compter du 23 Mars
1964, les contribuables pourront le cas echeant, solliciter le remboursement
des impots correspondants aupres de l'administration americaine au moyen d'une
declaration rectificative ou d'une demande de remboursement etablie sur
formulaire americain No 843 et envoye au directeur du district ("District
Director")auquel il aura ete adresse le declaration initiale ou, si le
redevable n'a pas etabli de declaration pour l'annee consideree, par le depot
d'un formulaire americain No 1040, 1040 NB, ou 1040 NBa.
        Reciproquement, les enseignants ou professeurs residents des Etats-Unis
qui viennent exercer leur activite en France a titre temporaire, a compter de
la meme date du 23 mars 1964, sont exoneres d'impot francais pour les
renumerations afferentes a cette activite.

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BULLETIN OFFICIEL DES CONTRIBUTIONS DIRECTES

No 28 - 7 SEPTEMBRE 1966

US Treasury Department

INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE
PUBLIC INFORMATION DIVISION
WASHINGTON DC

TECHNICAL INFORMATION RELEASE

TIR-833

FOR RELEASE ON RECEIPT

French resident teaching in the US, anytime after March 22, 1964, may be
entitled to a refund of Federal income tax paid, the US Internal Service
announced today.
The revenue Service said that a teacher or professor who pratices his
profession in the United States, at the time his stay in the Unites States
begins, is neither a citizen nor a resident of the United States but a resident
of france, is exempt from tax income from the practice of such profession if he
does maintain a fixed base in the US.
This exemption results from a agreement reached with the French tax authorities
as to the status of teachers and professors under the Article 10 of the United
States- France Income Tax Convention.
In Rev.Rul. 62-92, C.B 1964-I (part I) 599, The revenue Service explained what
constitue the "exercice of a liberale profession" within the meaning of the
Article 10 of the United States- France Income Tax Convention.
tatati-tatata (the same as in French)
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Autre reference (pour les etudiants et stagiaires):
"PUBLICATION 518"(10-68) - FOREIGN SCHOLARS AND EDUCATIONAL CULTURAL EXCHANGE
VISITORS.
Page 28, FRANCE, Article 15, 17, 18 (traduction du L.O.)

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