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From: car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers)
Subject: Re: rec.moto.harley
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:11:43 GMT
Summary: SoS

In article <25127@sophia.inria.fr>, weigl@sibelius.inria.fr (Konrad Weigl) writes:
> In article <1992Jul21.153947.27527@wpi.WPI.EDU>, mick@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan) writes:
> |> 	i have had occasion to ride with a couple of friends of mine who
> |> 	ride harley davidson motorcycles. i have ridden one of the
> |> 	motorcycles a few times, but that would hardly provide me a
> |> 	complete insight into h-d motorcycling, if such a thing exists
> |> 	unique from general motorcycling. in fact, these are the reasons
> |> 	that prompt me to request the h-d riders to stay with r.m.
> 
> Hm...Let me see if I got this right:
> Since you, for what reason whatever, are lacking the sensors to grasp the 
> difference between a Harley Davidson and another motorcycle, you want
> to _FORCE_ Harley riders _AS A GROUP_ to stay on rec.moto?

Say, Konrad, have you studied American History in your education?  
Specifically, are you familiar with the attempt of the Confederacy
to secede from the United States and the pro/con arguments of the
time?  No doubt the Southerners believed the US risked nothing by
allowing or endorsing the secession. The Union obviously felt otherwise,
and with considerable justification, as history has shown.

Since you (and others on *both* sides) seem to have an inordinately 
difficult time seeing the opposition's perspective (whether you agree 
or not), perhaps the similarities between that earlier Civil War
and this one might enlighten?

> 	an intelligent voter is one who understands and appreciates the
>         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 	issues involved, studies the charter, and ascertains the need
> 	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 	and justification (not the same thing) for a new group *based*
> 	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 	on the information provided in the charter.
> 	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Have you EVER, EVER, considered the yardstick you'd like the criteria 
> voters to comply to TO YOURSELF???

This would be a good exercise for *both* sides, methinks, especially
where "issues involved" are concerned.

BTW, please allow me to profusely THANK YOU once again for returning
to our humble cratered battlefield with your, er, unique perspective.

:-)
Chuck Rogers
car377@druhi.att.com
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From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Subject: Re: OSF/1 newsgroup?
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 12:58:42 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL

According to gibian@talent.ljo.dec.com (Marc S. Gibian):
>Why not name this:
>comp.osf.osf1

Okay, except I think it still belongs in "comp.unix": "c.u.osf.osf1".

The initial proposal will also include "c.u.osf.misc", which will
handle (among other things) the gap between OSF/2's release and the
creation of "c.u.osf.osf2".

>planning ahead to add:
>
>comp.osf.dce
>comp.osf.dme

Right.
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 compel unwilling geeks to commit evil .sig atrocities?"  -- Dean Engelhardt
From: lidl@rodan.UU.NET (Kurt J. Lidl)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD: comp.unix.apple2gs
Date: 10 Jul 1992 15:50:17 -0400
Organization: AlterNet -- Falls Church, Virginia, USA

bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:
>chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg) writes:
>>According to marekp@nic.cerf.net (Marek Pawlowski):
>>>   Recently with the addition of the GNO program (offering the
>>>AppleIIgs computer the ability to multi-task, and have a Unix
>>>like shell)...
>
>>Multitasking does not UNIX make.  Does GNO have a UNIX API?
>>If not, then the group should be named "comp.sys.apple2.gno".
>
>  It does; at least a reasonble number of UNIX system calls are supported.

Lets refine a few things here.  I'm open to suggestions that GNO may or
may not be unix-like.  However, someone say "it's unix" and "it will
make people take notice about IIgs's" is not enough to sway my
decision.  I'd like facts about the current system, not hearsy or
future plans.

Determined:
===========
GNO has multi-tasking.
GNO has ~45 system calls that are 4.3BSD compatible.

Questions:
==========

Does GNO have process protection between process/threads/tasks?
To the extent that process "foo" can *NOT* screw around with the
memory of process "bar"?

Does GNO have concepts of user ids and group ids?

Does GNO have hard links in its file system?

Does GNO have pipes?

Does GNO have either paging or swapping of processes (or both)?

> Jawaid Bazyar              |   Ask me about the GNO Multitasking Environment
                                 ^^^^^^
> Procyon, Inc.              |   for the Apple IIgs!   

I'm asking :-)

-Kurt
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From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: RFD: comp.unix.* reorganization
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 12:23:34 GMT

In article <55925@apadravya.princeton.edu> bpwing@phoenix.princeton.edu (Ben Wing) writes:
>Hmm ... maybe the info I got while working at Microsoft (oh no, does that
>brand me a Unix enemy?) was wrong, but as far as I know, NT is not a
>derivative of OS/2.  Rather, NT (strictly speaking) is a small kernel
>on top of which a "subsystem" is implemented.

This is obviously a usage of the word "small" I'm not previously familiar
with. In any case, application programs don't interface directly with the
NT kernel, they interface with the Windows or whatever emulation box.

So the Mach *API* is still "unix". That's the one you use by default when
writing applications on existing Mach-based systems.

The NT API is DOS/Windows. That's the one Microsoft wants you to use by
default when writing applications. The OS/2 API is a DOS derivitive plus
Windows.

Anyway where's the point: NT and Mach are all about what you do under the
covers, away from the application's view. "unix" is all about what the
application sees. It could be implemented by little gnomes with abaci for
all it cares.
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From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Subject: Re: RFD: comp.unix.* reorganization
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:27:17 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL

According to peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva):
>In article <2A6C16C3.533A@tct.com> chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg) writes:
>>Which is the important thing to be 32-bit: the software, the
>>motherboard memory, the interface bus, ...?
>
>The instruction set.

The instruction set is the one thing that _doesn't_ matter for the
proposed group.  "Instruction set" means "specific software" which
means "you're in the wrong newsgroup, this is c.u.ibm-pc-arch".
-- 
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 compel unwilling geeks to commit evil .sig atrocities?"  -- Dean Engelhardt
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From: bdianton@cs.ulowell.edu (Mark Diantonio)
Subject: Re: rec.games.adnd.guides
Originator: bdianton@cs.ulowell.edu
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:06:58 GMT


Hello, I'm sorry for my lack of grammar in the last article I wrote.
I believe the name was " New RolePlayers Group ".  I did recieve
your e-mail about "Ignoring any such articles or postings".
I am sorry I offended you.  I did not know that my English Grammar
skills were being graded as well.  Next time I write a post to this
newsgroup I will remember to bring my English Lit 302 book with me.
Since your an English major, as well as the supervisor of this group,
that was Sarcasim.  I am not ordinarily P*ssed off like this, but then
again you are not ordinary either.  You had the nerve to tell me that
because of a few typo's that my ideas aren't good.  Well I got news
for you bud.  Get your head out of your pocket protector and wake up.
People join this, for fun.  Not to be critized unneccasarily by NERDS
 who have so much time on thier hands that they can complain about a persons 
spelling.  Hey I took time out to write to your crummy group and I 
think my ideas are pretty damn good.  I have some people that will 
back me up on this but, all you say is I think its like 
rec.games.frp, IT ISN'T!!!!!!!
This is completely different.  I have sent you mail & I hope you
will read it for the ideas and concepts not just for my spelling 
errors.
- Mark DiAntonio
bdianton@cs.ulowell.edu
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From: lon@edsi.plexus.COM (Lon Ponschock)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: 2nd RFD: misc.support.smoking
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:37:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: edsi.1992Jul24.203727.16314
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI

tale@ten.uu.net (David C Lawrence) writes:

>In <1992Jul20.191040.28561@edsi.plexus.COM> lon@edsi.plexus.COM
>(Lon Ponschock) writes:

>   I have forwarded the suggestion to David C. Lawrence who will very
>   likely have the final say as regards name changes.

>No, I don't.  The name brought to vote is whatever the proposer
>settles on, hopefully after considering the input of other net users
>during the discussion period.

==>  I think that settling on misc.support.stop-smoking
says what the intent of the group is to be and I will summarize 
any further suggestions as they arrive.

lon
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From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: RFD: comp.unix.* reorganization
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:41:30 GMT

In article <2A6C16C3.533A@tct.com> chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg) writes:
>According to peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva):
>>comp.unix.pcclone.16bit
>>comp.unix.pcclone.32bit

>Which is the important thing to be 32-bit: the software, the
>motherboard memory, the interface bus, ...?

The instruction set.

Motherboard memory width is just a performance consideration. EISA versus
ISA might turn out to be a problem, but right now the biggest one is Intel's
Grand Experiment with segmentation.
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From: buzz@rsd.dl.nec.com (Buzz McDermott)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.models.scale
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:37:54 GMT
Organization: NEC America, Radio Software Dept

In article <1992Jul28.205324.12212@uunet.uu.net>, rray@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Randy J. Ray) writes:
|> I would like to open a Request For Discussion on a group to be named 
|> rec.models.scale, to discuss the various aspects of scale modeling. ...
|>
|> ...rest of proposal deleted...

I'd rather see rec.models.misc than rec.models.scale.  Either way, though, I
agree with the need for a rec.model.<something> to catch stuff that doesn't
belong in any of the 3 existing newsgroups.  We might get some great input
if we have a place for topics other than r/c, trains, and rockets.

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From: dawson@willard.UUCP
Newsgroups: news.groups,comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: RFD: comp.unix.* reorganization
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:54:43 GMT
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:

> In article <1992Jul21.141409.23783@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> williams@nssdcs.gsfc
> >I think that moving .minix, .linux, and .coherent under comp.unix[+] is a
> >terrible idea.  Check out the thread in comp.unix[+].bsd about AT&T suing
> >BSDI on the issue of intellectual property.  Apparently, USL are going
> >to be real bastards about this, and possibly endanger any form of free
> >UNIX[+] that is in any way derived from BSD.  I would therefore encourage
> >the net to use the "U" word as little as possible.
> 
> Since coherent, minix, and linux haven't a skerrik of BSD in their makeup,
> how would AT&T get involved? I can see how they can argue intellectual
> contamination of BSDI, but these other systems have no such heretige.

NOT.  Perhaps you don't remember (but I certainly do) the discussion on the
Linux-Activists newsgroup regarding this very topic.  Many developers of
Linux pieces have in fact had direct exposure to BSD source code.  The same
is true for Minix.  I can't say, but it may well be true for Coherent.

> 
> >comp.unix[+].* should
> >go away, to be replaced by comp.os.unix[+].* (or perhaps comp.os.UNIX[+]TM.*
> >which would *ONLY* be used for "true" USL licensed UNIX[+] versions.
> 
> No, I think that keeping the net aware of how many alternatives there are
> to True Blue AT&T code is important, and besides who are they going to sue?
> Usenet?

How 'bout Andy Tannenbaum?  Linus Torvalds?  Princeton-Hall?  Mark Williams Co.?

> -- 
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> 
> Peter da Silva, Taronga Park BBS, Houston, TX  +1 713 568 0480/1032


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Newsgroups: news.groups,comp.unix.sysv386
From: grether@cvt11.verfahrenstechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Grether Bernd (sorescu))
Subject: Re: RFD: comp.unix.* reorganization
Reply-To: grether@cvt11.verfahrenstechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Grether Bernd (sorescu))
Organization: Dep.Chem.Eng.(ICVT), Uni Stuttgart, FRG
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 07:49:25 GMT

In article <B0THLF6@taronga.com>, peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
|> In article <2A746402.57DB@tct.com> chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg) writes:
|> >  comp.unix.sysv286 -->
|> >   comp.unix.ibm-pc-arch.16bit   UNIX on 16-bit IBM PC arch. (i286).
|> >  comp.unix.sysv386 -->
|> >   comp.unix.ibm-pc-arch.32bit   UNIX on 32-bit IBM PC arch. (i386, i486).
|> 
|> Sounds good, except the "ibm-pc-arch" bit is a (beat) screaming horror from
|> the sewers of hell.
|> 
|> (ducks and hides)
|> 
|> No, seriously, there MUST be something better.


How about comp.unix.pc.{16,32}bit?
Or is the "ibm" necessary?

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From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Subject: Re: RFD: comp.unix.* reorganization
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:14:04 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL

According to lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gerry Swetsky):
> I haven't heard the term usg in ages. Drop it.

I agree.  New names:

     comp.unix.sysv.misc       Other versions of System V.
     comp.unix.sysv.r3         System V Release 3.
     comp.unix.sysv.r4         System V Release 4.

Yes, this means that "c.u.usg.misc" has been dropped, so there is no
home for System III.  I think that, given the small numbers of people
using System III, that's not a great loss.
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   "Do Rush place weird subliminal backmasked messages in their songs to
 compel unwilling geeks to commit evil .sig atrocities?"  -- Dean Engelhardt
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: rec.moto.harley
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:44:17 GMT
Organization: Bit Herders International

In article <1992Jul21.155801.4683@wpi.WPI.EDU> mick@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan) writes:
+Somewhere, Sometime, Thus Spake weigl@sibelius.inria.fr (Konrad Weigl):
+
+:- Who are all of you guys telling US what we should be able to handle?
+
+	i do not know about the others, but i am someone who would
+	like h-d riders to stick to rec.moto.

Wishing for something is nice, but unrealistic.  There are few HD riders
on re.moto.  Either they do not like the atmosphere, the volume, or the
signal to noise ratio. (i.e., different people have different reasons).

I have been considering leaving, myself.  (Note the comma).  (I can see
people like Coradeschi (sp?) cheering).  For me, the reason would be
the high volume.  Yes, I can (& do) use kill, etc.  But it is still
massive & I don't have that many hours in a day anymore.

Voting down rec.moto.hd will not make anyone come back.  
It will add few, if any, new HD riders to the group.  
It will not prevent any of the existing HD riders on the group from leaving.
Voting down rec.moto will just keep the bulk of the HD riders off of
 usenet.  If that is your goal, vote NO.

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From: rray@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Randy J. Ray)
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.models.scale
Organization: US WEST Communications, Inc. -- Denver, CO
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 22:04:26 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.183754.25843@rsd0.rsd.dl.nec.com>, buzz@rsd.dl.nec.com (Buzz McDermott) writes:
> In article <1992Jul28.205324.12212@uunet.uu.net>, rray@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Randy J. Ray) writes:
> |> I would like to open a Request For Discussion on a group to be named 
> |> rec.models.scale, to discuss the various aspects of scale modeling. ...
> |>
> |> ...rest of proposal deleted...
> 
> I'd rather see rec.models.misc than rec.models.scale.  Either way, though, I
> agree with the need for a rec.model.<something> to catch stuff that doesn't
> belong in any of the 3 existing newsgroups.  We might get some great input
> if we have a place for topics other than r/c, trains, and rockets.
> 

I responded to someone else who said this, but that message must have only gone
out to alt.models...

The name issue is one of the things I want to work out before voting begins. 
There are good arguments for both sides. The majority seems to be leaning
towards rec.models.scale, because it is a little more indicative of the nature
of the hobby. But I would welcome your thoughts, as well. By the time a vote
is taken, I want to have ironed out all details.

Randy
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From: scott@phlpa.pha.pa.us (Scott Scheingold)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD: comp.unix.* reorganization
Date: 22 Jul 92 12:20:33 GMT
Organization: Ians' Playhouse

In article <BrqEIr.8w6@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mrl28033@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael R Linksvayer) writes:
>Why have unix in newsgroup names at all? Why not
>
>comp.os.svr3
>comp.os.svr4
>comp.os.bsdi
>comp.os.bsd386
>comp.os.xenix
>
>etc. Then nobody needs to argue about what is unix and what is
>not. 
>
>-- 
>Mike Linksvayer   m-linksvayer@uiuc.edu   +1 217 344 1326

How about something like:

comp.os.sco
comp.os.att
ect..


This way people would be able to goto the brand of os that they have. Or 
you could do something like this:

comp.os.sco.unix
comp.os.sco.xenix
comp.os.att.unix
ect..

Just my thoughts.


Scott


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From: hcp@csx.cciw.ca (H.C. Pulley)
Subject: Re: RFD: comp.unix.* reorganization
Organization: Canada Centre for Inland Waters
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 12:25:19 GMT

In article <J5KHE9J@taronga.com> peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>It appears I've caused some distress with a comment I made on news.groups.
>Just to avoid further flames, let me repeat it emphasising one particular
>phrase that seems to have been underemphasised in the original:
>
>>>Actually, I was going to suggest pulling comp.os.{minix,linux,coherent} into
>>>the comp.unix world, IF THAT'S OK WITH THE READERSHIP OF THOSE GROUPS. That'
>                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What do you mean by 'pulling'?  Do you mean to have comp.unix.coherent, 
comp.unix.linux, etc. or do you mean to put us all in the same group with SCO,
and the other UN*Xes running on the PC architecture?

>>>because Unix isn't an operating system: it's a family of operating systems
>>>with a common core API... and as far as I'm concerned MINIX, LINUX, and
>>>Coherent *are* Unix.
>
>Of course I wouldn't take any such proposal to the RFD stage without asking
>the people involved first. That means discussion in comp.os.linux, .minix,
>and .coherent.
>-- 

I am worried about the size of a group like comp.unix.pc-arch which would
include SCO, SVr?, Coherent, Linux, Minix, et al.  If there was say,
comp.unix.pc-arch.coherent, etc., then size might not be as much of a problem.

Overall, I like the idea of putting the groups under the comp.unix flag.  This
way the questions currently posted to the comp.unix groups regarding Linux,
Coherent, etc. may have a better chance of finding the right group (for some
reason, many don't try for comp.os.* before they try comp.unix.* ?).

Harry

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From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: RFD: comp.unix.* reorganization
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:20:43 GMT

In article <3994203@glidden.UUCP> bill@glidden.UUCP (Bill Glidden) writes:
>peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>> >>Actually, I was going to suggest pulling comp.os.{minix,linux,coherent} into
>> >>the comp.unix world, IF THAT'S OK WITH THE READERSHIP OF THOSE GROUPS. That'
>>                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Let's keep Coherent in its own group.

Sure, I'm not suggesting changing that. Just making it comp.unix.coherent
instead of comp.os.coherent.

>> >>with a common core API... and as far as I'm concerned MINIX, LINUX, and
>** POSIX would be an example of a defined API, without actually being
>   an operating system.

POSIX is *part* of the UNIX API, with a (gratifying small) chunk of extra
stuff added by comittee that isn't really part of UNIX. It doesn't address
a lot of stuff that you really need to run UNIX software (like, what and
where is /etc/utmp, /usr/mail, ....).
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