From: roberto@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Roberto Ricca)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: "Discarded" Giants (Re: Jeff Brantley sucks!!!)
Date: 19 Aug 92 06:04:47 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <4200335@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell) writes:
>(Mike West)
>>Before anyone castigates the Giants for "giving up on" or "discarding"
>>these players, remember the circumstances:
>
>>Lefferts - He was a free agent who did not want to stay in SF.  
>
>He wanted to stay with SF.  SF made it clear that they did not think
>highly of him by going after Righetti.  I think salary was an issue as
>well - this despite the fact that Lefferts had been doing the job for
>SF.  This swap of Lefferts for Righetti has been a total disaster. 

Ehi! You are missing something: Righetti came in 1991, Lefferts left after
the 1989 season.

Please note that I am not saying that acquiring Righetti was a good deal!

>>Mulholland
>>D.Cook   - They were traded for Bedrosian.  Long term it was not
>>C.Hayes    that great (I didn't like the Giants giving up two promising
>>           lefties either), but they desperately needed a closer
>>           and Bedrosian was the best they could find.  And the trade
>>           worked:  he helped them win the West and make it to the WS.
>
>This is your opinion.  Who can say whether the absence of Bedrosian would
>have made any difference.  Two starting lefties and a 3rd baseman is a bit
>steep for 1/3 season from a washed up reliever.  Today Bedrock is history.
>Where might the Giants be with two proven lefties and a reserve infielder?
>Thanks but I'll take the double digit wins this year rather than the 
>questionable value of Bedrock during the stretch drive.

Bedrosian saved 17 games for the Giants in a three and a half months span.
He had a 1-4 record and the Giants won the division by three games.
Then in the playoffs he saved three games againts the Cubs.

Sure, he was not Eck, but he was not so bad. Without Bedrock, would we
still win the division and the pennant? Obviously, who knows?

In the long term that trade hurts. But the Giants had to win in 1989 and
they won. I don't see nothing wrong with that. I prefer one pennant, one
third and a fifth place finish than be runner-up three straight years.

>A matter of opinion.  While we are at it lets add the following to our
>list:
>
>o Butler for McGee

It was not a trade, just a very bad decision.

>o Leonard for Riles

Riles for Leonard wouldn't make us a first place team. BTW, Riles was
called up a couple of weeks ago from AAA by the Astros, go and figure!

>o Downs for nothing despite 9 wins last year

You know, Downs always seemed to pitch well and lose.

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