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From: moorera@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU (Ryan A Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Yellowjackets
Date: 6 Jan 1993 07:13:36 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
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In article <mike.20@vm1.mcgill.ca>, mike@vm1.mcgill.ca (Mike Woo) writes:
>
>     Didn't Robben Ford play for the Yellowjackets at one time?  Which 
>albums (from above) did he play on?  Any recommendations you can make would
>be much appreciated.
>                                       Thanks,
>                                        Mike Woo

Robben Ford appeared on the first two YJ albums... "Yellowjackets" and "Mirage a
Tois".  According to the liner notes in the "Yellowjackets" album, the original
three members (Ferrante, Haslip, Lawson) first played together in a Robben Ford
album (his first) entitled "The Inside Story (1979)."  I have not heard "The
Inside Story," so I don't know what that is like.  The first two YJ albums
sound a little different than the rest, probably becuase there is no lead sax
player at all.  However, for any YJ fan, they are quite good.  They have a lot
of great stuff.  It's interesting to hear these early (1981/1983) albums and
then listen to the last couple just to hear how the group has grown and
matured.

						- Ryan
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From: gel@sys.uea.ac.uk (Gareth Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Andy LaVerne
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:15:30 GMT
Organization: UEA School of Information Systems, Norwich, UK.

frank@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Anton Frank) writes:

>A few days ago I heard a tune played by a jazz-musician called AndyLaVerne.
[deletions]

I think LaVerne played bass in Bob Brookmeyer's band during the early 1980s.
My memory is a little hazy so I'm not certain he was a bass player.

The band released at least one LP which was a club concert recording.  I
think it featured a LaVerne composition (seedily) entitled "Soft Porn" -
a very beautiful tune though!!

I may be able to find more details of the album.  email me if you want
more info regarding the Label and number.

Gareth Lee.
From: jqdoumen@vub.ac.be (Doumen Jan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Barrelhouse
Date: 5 Jan 1993 03:02:48 -0600
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I'm looking for music scores of barrelhouse piano.
e.g. Memphis Slim, Piano Red, Meade Lux Lewis, Otis Spann, ...
Till now I found three good books. Two by Eric Kriss "Six Blues Roots
Pianists" and "Barrelhouse and Boogie Piano". The other one is a white
book with red letters and black notes by Claude ?x?.
Anybody who knows about others ? If you do, please sent me the references.

Thanks in advance.

p.s. I'm not looking for easy-to-play things.

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From: vek@spacsun.rice.edu (Vincent E. Kargatis)
Subject: Re: The Tonight Show
Organization: Rice University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:43:53 GMT

mciver@alpo.cs.colorado.edu (William McIver Jr.) writes:
> IMHO, the most important thing to note here is not how 
> lame the skit was, but the idea of running mentioning
> **Elvis Presley** in the same show that Dizzy was
> "memorialized".

I don't find much objectionable in that at all: Elvis's presence in that
skit (and on the stamp) had nothing to do with his musical stature and
everything to do with his being a pop-cultural icon. The people to blame
for that are the public, not those whose job it is to cater to the public 
(like the Tonight Show and the Post Office).
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Paul Bley (was: Sharp/Previte/Hofstra play the blues + other things)
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:20:11 GMT

I mentioned earlier Memoirs, a trio with Haden and Motian.  I put it in
one of my all-time top piano trio recordings.  This was recorded just
recently.

BTW, he is on Sonny Meets Hawk, an recording of Sonny Rollins and
Coleman Hawkins.   Some great stuff on that, for sure.

Jeff
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From: zzzbbtt@milkyway
Subject: Attention, Earthlings!
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:25:10 GMT


We wish to allay any fears you may have that we are going to come down and
destroy your planet.  We have no wish to do as Earth is one of the main
supplier for players in our Intergalatic Orchestras: Just this year we were
able to pick up another drummer and a couple of decent trumpeters, among
others.  They are all having a good time up here and are much appreciated,
except for the occasional complaints about Coltrane playing too many notes.

Kenny G. and Harry Connick, you get to keep.
____________________________
	zzzbbtt@milkyway
From: tygar+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug Tygar)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Zorn's Grand Guignol and Leng Tch'e
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:54:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.C0rJMv.M05.1
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

Zorn has two new Naked City disks out in the US:  Leng Tch'e (on the Japanese
label Toy Factory) and Grand Guignol (on the Japanese label Avant).

Contrary to what was previously posted on this newsgroup, Leng Tch'e is not
a track of Grand Guignol.  Leng Tch'e is a 33 minute dirge-like piece.
Grand Guignol includes:

	Grand Guignol				17:40
	La Cathedrale Engloutie (Debussy)	 6:24
	Three Preludes (Scriabin)		 3:47
	Prophetiae Sybillarum (Olrando Di Lassus)1:46
	The Cage (Ives)				 2:00
	Louange a L'eternite de Jesus (Messiaen) 7:07

	followed 33 tracks of Naked City compositions ranging from
	10 seconds to 74 seconds in length (these are not the tracks
	from "Torture Garden.")

Both CDs feature disgusting cover art, as usual.

If I get a chance, I'll post a more detailed review in the next few days.
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From: smehta@kwela.nynexst.com (Sandeep Mehta)
Subject: Re: Harmolodics ???
Reply-To: smehta@nynexst.com
Organization: Speech Technology, AI Lab, NYNEX S&T Inc, White Plains, NY
	<1993Jan11.185845.25675@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:34:38


> mingus@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Damballah Wedo) writes:

> Just as IMO Prime Time makes no sense if Ornette is just another
> player.

Which makes Denardo's comment make complete sense! ;-) In a WIRE
article some years back he said that Prime Time needed a "harmolodic
sound engineer" since most sound engg thought "oh, jazz-rock!" --
like they understood Ornette's music -- and cranked the guitars up
with Ornette's alto -- strong as it is -- often being drowned out.

/sandeep
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From: rost@tecrus.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Subject: Re: On Drugs, Bebop and Sonny Rollins
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: 11 JAN 93 10:45:56    


Just a parting thought:

I saw Emily Remler play a week before she died.  I had no idea she was a user
at the time.  I doubt many people did, except those close to her.  Both myself
and a friend brought our daughters to the show as we wanted to show them that
it was OK for women to be playing music, etc.  

After she died I was so PISSED at her. To the point where for awhile I felt she
deserved it...how STUPID could she be.  I look back at that anger I felt and it
scares me.  So much for positive role models  8;(


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From: mcnamara@vixvax.mgi.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: On Drugs, Bebop and Sonny Rollins
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:36:39 CDT
Distribution: na
Organization: Management Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Dec31.073834.11491@cbnewsl.cb.att.com
>, mingus@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Damballah Wedo) writes:
> Why did
> Lewis not consider the ambivalence some felt toward their addictions?
> The celebrated sabbaticals Sonny Rollins took from the music were
> attempts to clean up, for example.
> Marcel-Franck Simon             	mingus@usl.com, usl!mingus
> 

	I had the chance to spend some time with Sonny around 1976,
and asked him to sign one of his earlier albums (mid 50's).  He did so 
(dating the signature) but was clearly disappointed that I chose something
from one of his "under the influence" periods.  He felt that his work
of other eras was as good.  

					Curt
From: martin@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Martin A Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: ALbert King Reccomendations
Followup-To: rec.music.bluenote
Date: 11 Jan 1993 20:58:01 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world, rec, usa
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Keywords: Albert King recommendations

In article <1ishnlINNq26@smaug.West.Sun.COM> jimh@pongo.West.Sun.COM (jim hori) writes:
>In article <4501@unisql.UUCP> ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:
>>In article <1ik9e2INN89g@smaug.West.Sun.COM> jimh@pongo.Eng.Sun.COM (jim hori) writes:
>>>If you can find it (I made this recommendation the first time
>>>this discussion came up) perhaps the definitive showcase of
>>>Albert's guitar soloing is the 5 minutes plus version of
>>>"Cold Sweat", available on a Stax 7" single b-side: chorus
>>>after chorus after chorus of string bending fury.
>>Wouldn't that be on the Stax singles box set?  I was under the impression that
>>the set was complete, including b-sides.
>
>I wondered that myself, which is why I said "available on" rather
>than "*only* available on". Anyone have that set who can enlighten
>us?
>....
>jimh@west.sun.com

Ok, I have the set and from what I remember after reading the book, only
"selected" b-sides are included, for example, the flip side to Albert King's
version of "Born Under a Bad Sign" was "Personal Manager" which does not
appear.  In addition, the set does have every a-side up to 1968, but nothing
after.  I believe this is why "Time is Tight" by Booker T is not on the
set.  (I'm assuming that it was issued as a single..).

While it's unfortunate that some very good things are not on the Stax/Volt
box, it should not be construed that the box is somehow deficient - everybody
should own it..I couldn't be happier.  BTW, shortly after I got my
copy, my cat (who is now catheterized (heh, heh, heh)) annointed the book
and pretty much ruined it.  I wrote to Atlantic records saying what happened
and about three months later, they sent me a new one.  I was impressed..so
now I have a copy of the book to beat up nad one to "keep".

cheers, 

-mm
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From: mciver@alpo.cs.colorado.edu (William McIver Jr.)
Subject: Dizzy Gillespie has passed
Organization: Universtiy of Coloardo, Boulder
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:53:06 GMT


I just heard the AP wire reports on a couple
stations out here that John Birks "Dizzy" Gillespie died in
Englewood Hospital today.

He had pancreatic cancer.

For some reason the only box I picked out of my collection
to bring to school was my new _Dizzy's Diamonds_.

My father being from Cheraw, S.C. got to meet him a
few years ago.  Dizzy commented to him how very tired
he was of touring after all these years.

I never met him but was fortunate to see him perform several times.


WJM

p.s.

BTW, Nureyev (sp ?) also died today. Sandeep, see if they play
Dizzy the way they did Buhaina when Bernstein died.


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From: mjs@fc.hp.com (Marc Sabatella)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Recent Jazz
Date: 11 Jan 1993 20:53:55 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company
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A couple of other people have mentioned folks like Wynton Marsalis, Courtney
Pine, and other "neoconservatives" (I hesitate to use the term "neoboppers"
because, to my ears, what they are doing is not bop, but an extension of the
music of the late 50's and early 60's).

There are also quite a few musicians taking off in other equally valid
directions, most of which could be considered "straightahead" in the sense of
not being a deliberate attempt at a "fusion" or "crossover" market.  Watch this
newsgroup for a couple of weeks, and the following names will usually come up:

saxophonists:
	Ornette Coleman
	David Murray
	Dewey Redman
trumpet players:
	Don Cherry
	Marcus Belgrave
trombone players:
	George Lewis
	Ray Anderson
pianists:
	Don Pullen
	Geri Allen
	Cecil Taylor
	Marilyn Crispell
	Paul Bley
bassists:
	Charlie Haden
	Dave Holland
drummers:
	Andrew Cyrille
	Sunny Murray

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From: kbindner@wtcp.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Kenneth Bindner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Nobody Knows You When You're Down and Out
Date: 9 Jan 93 20:38:29 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: NCR Corporation - Dayton, OH USA

I would be greatful for any background information anyone on the net can 
provide on the old song called:

                "Nobody Knows You When You're Down and Out"

                        1. Who wrote the song?
                        2. What year was it written?
                        3. Any background stories:
                              -About the writer
                              -What inspired the melody or lyrics
                              -Any interpretation of the lyrics

Thanks ahead.

                                Ken Bindner
                                Dayton,Ohio

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From: rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (R. Lynn Rardin)
Subject: Re: The Tonight Show
Reply-To: rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:11:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.180050.716@sarah.albany.edu>, rstump@itchy.geog.albany.edu (Roger Stump) writes:
>Gidi Avrahami writes:
>>Bitching about the lack of high quality jazz programming on the
>>Tonight Show is pretty stupid, don't you think?  Might as well
>>complain about Oprah not featuring enough discussions on Pre-Raphaelite
>>painting.
>>
>You're right, of course.  But on the other hand, Oprah didn't make a big
>deal about hiring Dante Gabriel Rossetti as her artistic director. :-)
>-- 
>Roger Stump  (rstump@itchy.geog.albany.edu)

Right.  And the Tonight Show folks _did_ claim they were going to do a 
tribute to Gillespie...

-Lynn  (rardin@auriga.rose.brandeis.edu)
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From: gjr9@quads.uchicago.edu (grant jewell rich)
Subject: psychology of improvisation revisited
Reply-To: gjr9@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:33:07 GMT

Hi,
 A while ago I posted a request for books that described jazz musicians'
descriptions of their moods while playing (I am doing research for school on
this topic). Thanks for all the suggestions- Conversations with Jazz Musicians 
by Gale Research Company and Len Lyons' The Great Jazz Pianists were especially helpful.
 I am continuing my research in this area and now have another request-
I am interested in how musicians feel about the following (if interested, 
please email or post your responses in as much or as little detail you care to).
Thanks a mil.

1. Age:
2. Sex:
Answer the following with respect to your main instrument:
Main instrument:
3. Number of years improvising on that instrument:
5. Have you ever earned money playing this instrument?  (describe):
6. About how many hours did you play your instrument last week?:
7. About how many hours do you play your instrument in a typical week?
8. Who are the primary influences on you playing?:
9. How many hours a week did you listen to improvised music last week?:
10. How many hours a week do you listen to improvised music in a typical week?:
11. Name the (jazz or other) artists you've listened to most attentively in the    past few weeks.
12. What percentage of the time you play improvised (your instrument) do you        play with other musicians?:
13. Have you taken music theory classes? If yes, describe (e.g., read one book,     was a college music major):
15. Do you see your involvement with improvised (your instrument) increasing        over the next year? the next five years? the next ten years?:

The KEY questions (if you don't have time to answer all the questions,              answer these):

A. Describe how you feel when playing something you enjoy.

B. Describe how you feel when you are playing something very challenging.

C. Describe how you feel when playing something for which you feel you have a      lot of skills.:


Thanks again (feel free to add any other comments)
                          -Grant Rich

  
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From: hum@cs.concordia.ca (HUM william)
Subject: Robert Cray's Strong Persuader 're-issued'??
Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 06:03:32 GMT

I noticed in the Recent and Upcoming Releases List that Robert Cray's
Strong Persuader was 're-released' on Jan. 8.  What exactly does this
mean?  Do they make CD's in fixed batches and when they sell out then
they re-issue them?  Or has the CD been re-mastered or something?  If
in fact it has been re-mastered then I'll probably pick up another
copy since it's one of my favorites.  Does anyone know how I could
distinguish the two?  Would the release dates be different on the CD's?

Thanks for any help.

Will.
hum@cs.concordia.ca

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From: wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery)
Subject: Re: looking for a cd
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:33:47 GMT

havey+@CMU.EDU (Robert J. Havey) writes:
>"long is your living" by judy nymac (sp?).  ~2 weeks ago heard the track

Long as Your Living by Judy Niemack, Free Lance FRL014. Its available through
Cadence. Tower in NY sometimes has Freelance (at about $17/CD, though); I
don't know about this particular one, but there are two Mal Waldron/Marion
Brown CDs from Free Lance that keep tempting me...

>"infant eyes" on APR (jazz after hours) and saturday night heard a version
>of bill evans' "waltz for debby" also on APR.  i haven't been able to find
>this album anywhere (everyone looks at me strange).

Both songs are on the same album.

Bill Hery
AT&T Bell Labs
201-386-2362
hery@att.COM
From: marcor@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Marco Rentier)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Red Devils : Automatic
Date: 6 Jan 93 10:41:40 GMT
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

I recently bought the album by the Red Devils (their music is like the Fabulous
Thunderbirds) with the song "Automatic" on it. Due to the singers great , but
not always so understandable, voice, I can't always follow the lyrics. Could anybody tell me what the lyrics are (the refrain ain't that difficult, the verses are the problem) ?

Thanks, 

Marco Rentier


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From: mciver@alpo.cs.colorado.edu (William McIver Jr.)
Subject: Re: r. malone's cd
Organization: Universtiy of Coloardo, Boulder
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 02:21:03 GMT

In article <3831@tansei1.tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp> hatori@tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Shisei FUJIWARA) writes:
>
> I just bought Russell Malone's CD and am very impressed.  Who has he 
> played with besides Harry Connick?  Was he just another local musician (in Georgia)
> until joining the H. Connick band?  Where is he playing these days?
>
> -Tom Landman
>

Russell played for two years with Jimmy Smith prior to joining Harry.
He has also done some work for television and has appeared on gigs and one
recording dates with Branford Marsalis.

For more information, check out a short article on him in the October or September JazzTimes
and the 20-November-1992 edition of National Public Radio's Morning Edition.

He went on the road in November playing in, among other places, Boston, 
LA (at Lunaria), and NYC (at the Bluenote).  From the information I have,
he has a trio.  (He talked about taking an awesome Atlanta pianist
named Gary Motely. Of course, if he has a trio we won't get to see Gary...)

The CD only begins to show Russell's talent.



WJM



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