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From: nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Nabil Idriss)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: soc.culture.arabic
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:31:03 GMT
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.
Originator: nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM

First of all, you are idiot and SCUM to talk in this manner. 
I bet you and your kind study abroad on our acount 
(the Iraqis) so for this reason you are willing even to sell your mother
for saddam and the few dollars.
I am an Iraqi and proud to be one but I think we Iraqis like the LEBANESE
and the KUWAITIS made a big mistake to welcome SCUMS like you and
your kind in our Country.

I can not tell you my real name because I know very well how you and 
your kind report anybody to the Iraqi Embassy who is against the butcher
saddam and for this reason sddam send SCUMS like you you abroad. I am
sure that even you have an Iraqi passport.


M.G
Cardiff, Wales, U.K


First of all you Idiot, screw you and screw Saddam Hussein. Who told you 
that I like him. I have never been to Iraq and I don't have an Iraqi passport
and your mother sells her self. You are not an Iraqi, you are from across the
border. Shame on the Arabs for giving people like you passports. That is why
you don't want to disclose your name.

Before talking about the helpless Palestinians, go and liberate your country
from you fascist leaders and I am talking about the whole Middle east leaders.

I don't need any arabic country to educate me, scums like you from the Gulf
who gets education and spends oil money on prostitutes while their leaders
are shouting slogans in the name of Palestine to hold on to their chairs.

Go and beat up on some one big not on the helpless palestinians. You and 
your governments are chicken infront of the west and Israel. The Jews 
shoes is better than your whole country.

If you really want to pour your hate on the Palestinians, I am coming to
England on December and I will be glad to meet with you if you are really
tough. Just name the place and I will be there Mr. M.G. "Toyota".


-- 
Nabil Idriss                           |       FOR EVERY ACTION AN OPPOSITE  
NCR - Midrange Products Division       |       AND EQUAL REACTION.
      Columbia, South Carolina         |      
email: nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM |
From: ghusain@eng.umd.edu (Ibrahim Al-Ghusain)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Kuwaiti abbreviation?
Date: 21 Aug 92 22:53:40 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Originator: ghusain@goldengate.eng.umd.edu


In article <1992Aug21.202736.15538@meaddata.com>, timk@meaddata.com (Tim Klein) writes:
>
>I hope readers of this newsgroup can answer this question.
>
>
>Some businesses in Kuwait use the abbreviation "S.A.K." in their names.
>For example:   Willco Kuwait S.A.K.
>	       Commercial Bank of Kuwait, S.A.K.
>
>
>What does this abbreviation stand for?  Please don't guess -- I need
>a definite answer.  Thank you very much for your help.
>
>Tim Klein  (timk@meaddata.com)

The letters S.A.K. after the name of a Kuwaiti company mean that it has stocks and
shareholders.  i.e. listed on the ( bourse') or the Kuwaiti stock exchange.

The name in arabic would be followed by the arabic letters ( sheen, meem , kaf)
( Sharika musahima kuwaitiyya).  I do not know what the letters exactly stand for.

Ibrahim
From: borrel@dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen)
Subject: Re: arabic music lover needs info
Reply-To: borrel@dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen)
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:10:54 GMT

> U53048@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
> : hi  I am an american who is trying to find some names of arabic singers and pla
> : ces I can buy their recordings.  Also, I once heard a female singer in Cairo (a

Try these: Semiramis, 26th & Mission Street, San Francisco (sorry, I don't have  
their phone number) or Foto-Video, 15-17 Edgware Road, London W2 2JE (tlf 71 724  
1221 fax 71 706 4635)

> :  tape) and apparently she is the most famous Egyptian singer, but I don't know
> : her name.  Any information would be much appreciated.
> 
>   The most famous Egyptian singer is Umm Kulthum. 
> 

You can also find some samples of Um Kalthoum songs on the anonymous ftp server  
liasun3.epfl.ch. There are complete texts (as gif files) and soundbytes in  
/users/choueiry/umKoulthoum of the songs AlHubKollou Zikrayat AnaFiIntizarak
Yamsaharni alatlal IntaUmri and Aqbal el Leil. See the README files first!

- Barre Ludvigsen <borrel@dhhalden.no>
From: lb@ra.cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Big train crash in Bulgaria
Date: 18 Aug 92 09:39:05 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester UK


I was just told that there has been a big train crash in Bulgaria - the
Sunny Beach express. Haven't got any other details.

Regards

Luben
From: lcjst2+@pitt.edu (Lester C Jacobson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Languages, Dictionaries and Education
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:59:46 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.bulgaria
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Aug13.012430.11442@cs.wisc.edu> vassil@cs.wisc.edu (Vassil Peytchev) writes:
>
>Since in the replies Old Church Slavonic and Old Bulgarian were used
>interchangeably, are they identical or is there some difference between them?

Oh my, how to answer this query without offending anyone....

The most general answer is the one which I personally prefer:
There is a corpus of texts composed of a certain number of medieval Slavic
manuscripts, such as the Codex Marianus, the Codex Zographensis, the Codex
Assemanianus, etc. These texts (well, almost all of them) show clear linguistic
features which indicate origin somewhere in the South-East Slavic region.

The language of these texts is X.  

The language X is referred to by a number of different names:

- I believe that the Bulgarians have consistently stuck with _Starob"lgarski_.
- The French seem to consistently use _le vieux slave_. 
- Germans alternate between _altkirchenslavisch_ and _altbulgarisch_.
- Russians have maintained the term _staroslavianskii iazyk_ throughout the
  Soviet era, but I have seen the terms _drevnecerkovnoslavianskii iazyk_ and
  _drevnebolgarskii iazyk_ used (mostly in older works, but also in this 
  century).
- In the English-speaking world, _Old Church Slavic_ (or Slavonic in Britain)
  seems to prevail, although one does also see the term _Old Bulgarian_
  occasionally used.

I personally find the term _Old Slavonic_ too vague -- the _Ostromirovo
evangelie_, for example, is old and is Slavic, but it does not belong to this
corpus.  
The name _Old Bulgarian_ has, in my view, a couple of problems. 1) a number
of these manuscripts exhibit features which are not exactly Bulgarian --
an example would be the shift of front jer --> e and of back jer --> o.
2) Later manuscripts in the East Slavic areas exhibit a distinctive variant
of the language X. Should one really speak of a "Russian redaction of Old
Bulgarian"? Perhaps, but it seems a little strange to me.
The term _Old Church Slavic_ also serves as an indication of the ecclesiastical
nature of most of these texts. 

One argument in favor of _Old Bulgarian_ is this:  There is another body of
medieval Slavic manuscripts which are written in what seems to be a younger
stage of language X.  We refer to these texts as being written in _Middle
Bulgarian_.  Should not the next stage of language older than Middle Bulgarian
be, logically, Old Bulgarian?

In short, there's a lot of controversy surrounding the topic.  I personally
haven't lost too much sleep over it, and I hope you don't either. 
 
>
>Thanks for your replies,
>
>Vassil

You're welcome.

jake  lcjst2@unix.cis.pitt.edu    University of Pittsburgh

Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
From: did@kepler.unh.edu (Dusan I Dragovic)
Subject: COMPUTER BUSINESS IN BULGARIA
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 06:04:52 GMT


Established computer company is looking for the contacts with
Bulgarian company for expanding business in Bulgaria.
Please e-mail to d_dragovic@unhh.unh.edu or did@kepler.unh.edu
Phone: 212 575-9265

Dusan Dragovic

Xref: sparky soc.culture.bulgaria:1157 soc.culture.yugoslavia:7999 rec.arts.poems:8135
From: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria,soc.culture.yugoslavia,rec.arts.poems
Subject: Grigor Purlichev about hi
Date: 16 Aug 92 00:02:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-1243v.32bis
Reply-To: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 



LB>>                        THE SIRDAR
LB>>               by Grigor Prlichev (excerpt)
LB>>
LB>> { The Macedonian writer Grigor S. Prlichev was born in 1830 and died
LB>>in 1893 in Ohrid. In Athens in 1860, he won the highest prize for litera-
LB>>ture - The Laurel Wreath, for his epic poem "The Sirdar", and was praised as
LB>>the Second Homer.


LB>[I'd like to ask the Greek netter to try and translate "Amaptw?os", where ?
LB>stands for 180 degree rotated "y", "t" is tau, "m" is the letter for micro]:

          The Sinner, or one who is looked down upon as a sinner.

LB>
LB>    We, Bulgarians, have been so abused and despised by other nationalities
LB>that it is high time we regained our dignity. When one reads our folk

  We, Bulgarians! That's how this excellent poet describes his own
  people! "We, Bulgarians". Not "We, Macedonians", Not "We, Greeks".
  This is precise the point of all the Greek protest over the name
  Macedonia. The so-called "Macedonian Nation" is just a branch of
  the Bulgarian nation (nothing wrong with that). The name "Macedonians"
  was forced upon the residents of the Vardar Region by the makers of
  the Yugoslav Confederation, in an effort to deprive them from their
  national heritage, and to weaken any ties with neighboring Bulgaria.
  The true victims of this "Macedonian Issue" are the natives of Vardar
  who have for so long be deprived from their roots, to the point that this
  "Macedonia" lie has been rooted so deeply that even they, the victims of
  this cultural repression, can no longer recognize it.

LB>songs, in which every beauty is called Greek woman, then one will

  Well, you can't blame them for that... `8-)

LB>characteristic of the Bulgarians. It is high time we prove ourselves men
LB>among men. Bulgarian industriousness is rarely to be found among other
LB>nationalities; it has ennobled us, it has been and will be our salvation.

   Here is a man proud of his Bulgarian origin. It is sad that many of his
   people have never had the chance to be proud of their true origins,
   having been for decades subjected to endless totalitarian propaganda
   to serve the political purposes of the Yugoslav confederation.

LB>More on Grigor Purlichev to follow - written by himself and by others
LB>Best regards
LB>Luben

   Very interesting. Keep it coming. Soc.culture.australia is probably
   not an appropriate place though, and probably not s.c.Europe.
   I will cross-post this to r.a.poems, since it is poetry that we are
   talking about, but this may not be the right group for it, either.
   You may want to add s.c.Greek to the list, since this does concern
   Greece (plus I do not regularly check s.c.bulgarian).

   Michael.

---
 . SLMR 2.1a . Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up.
From: lb@cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Questionnaire
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:49:07 GMT
Reply-To: lb@cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov)
Distribution: soc
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester UK

In article <ZLATEV.92Aug12165300@olive.an.isl.titech.ac.jp> zlatev@an.isl.titech.ac.jp (Rossen Zlatev) writes:

[deleted]

>	So, I have an idea. Everybody that likes can answer me following two
>questions:

The idea has something nice but is hardly put in the best possible way.

>	1. Which is the best place on Earth?

No doubt - Bulgaria :-)))
Otherwise - to answer this Q, each reader must have visited many countries
and lived in each for a long time, so that he knows well, what it is like.
And it depends what do you mean "the best" - climate - if so - what climate
is the best? England is too wet, but otherwise I like the not very hot
summers (well, when it's not raining) and the mild winters (I miss the
snow, however).

>	2. Which countries have you visited?

Well, this could be a good starting point. A comparison of the country
where somebody has lived for a long time with BG, for example - in all
aspects - nature, culture, habits, food (and drink :-) ), etc, etc. is
better - if I have visited a country for 10 days, or even a week, or a
month, this is hardly the same as living somewhere for more than an year.
Not that I agree with some Bulgarians who have been for some time in the UK
on what is what, but ...

>	I will post the result to soc.culture.bulgaria

Rossen, I have gathered several postings which may be OK for a FAQ list for
Bulgaria. However, I doubt I'll be here for a longer time. In case there is
somebody who wants to spent some time on assembling a Bulgarian FAQ list,
I'll be happy to provide whatever I've saved.

>All the best: Rossen 

Likewise

Luben

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"Let us not allow splits and splintering to frighten us. It is, indeed, a
pity, but what can we do, since we are Bulgarians and all suffer from one
common desease"
				Gotse Delchev
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
From: daniel@danbo.bg (Daniel Kalchev)
Subject: Re: E-mail addresses in Bulgaria
Organization: Digital Systems
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 03:45:57 GMT

bliznako@envmsa.eas.asu.edu (Bliznakov, Plamen) writes:
: 
: There also is a company in Varna (Daniel Kalchev) which seems to compete
: with KZIIT in providing E-mail services in Bulgaria. I have successfully
: exchanged E-mail messages with Daniel Kalchev. He also posts articles
: in this newsgroup from time to time.

In fact, the company operates the EUnet backbone in Bulgaria. EUnet
does in no way compete with EARN in Bulgaria, because EARN has one
site (two machines) in a very isolated region in Sofia (the Academy
site), while EUnets primary task is creating extensive national
network, and connect as much different organisation as possible.
Also, EARN will never provide the kind of services (Internet for
example) that EUnet provides. So we do not threat KCIIT as a
competition, they have their nishe to fill.

Also, EUnet operates in Bulgaria long before UNICOM was founded.
<smile>

Daniel
From: vassil@cs.wisc.edu (Vassil Peytchev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Languages, Dictionaries and Education
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:24:30 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept

Thanks to everyone who responded to this topic. I have the following question
now: 

Since in the replies Old Church Slavonic and Old Bulgarian were used
interchangeably, are they identical or is there some difference between them?

Thanks for your replies,

Vassil
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
From: daniel@danbo.bg (Daniel Kalchev)
Subject: Re: Electronic Matchmaker
Organization: Digital Systems
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 21:50:06 GMT

Eric_S_Klien@cup.portal.com writes:
: Bulgarian women, having a problem finding a Bulgarian man?

You are not serious! I think the problem is the other way around (due
to some funny reasons), but even then, there are not much Bulgarian
women on the net... those who are abroad at the moment are usualy
already married. <smile>

Now, if you mean real inter-cultural matching, that would be
interesting. I will appreciate a copy of your questionaire sent to
bgsite@bulgaria.eu.net. :)

Best Regards from Bulgaria,
Daniel
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria,soc.culture.greek
From: ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis )
Subject: Re: Evil Bulgaria? (was Re: INDEPENDENT SLAVO-MACEDON)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 23:05:19 GMT

vassil@cs.wisc.edu (Vassil Peytchev) writes:

>In article <3507.3248.uupcb@factory.com>, michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) writes:
>|> 
>|>  The threat does not come from any numbers of Slavic population in
>|> (Greek)Macedonia. The threat comes from the notion, advanced many times
>|> by Bulgaria, that "Macedonia should remain united". (ie, by accepting
>|> the name "Macedonia" for Vardar, the claim that Macedonia is a divided
>|> region can be made).

>I have never heard a Bulgarian stating that Macedonia should remain united.

 Such claims were made in the past (50+ years).

>|>  During the civil war, the area was almost entirely in Communist hands,
>|> with the assistance of Bulgaria.

>I don't think so. So far all Greek netters agreed, that it was Tito who 
>supported the Greek Communists.

 Not quite correct.  Bulgaria helped Greek communists in Eastern Macedonia
 and Thrace.  

>|>  In any case, it is absurd for the Skopjian/Bulgarian side to make
>|> claims on Greek soil based on the existence of Slavic nationals in the
>|> (Greek)Macedonian region prior to 1913, when similar numbers of Greeks
>|> lived north of the border prior to 1913,(till they were evacuated in
>|> the same population exchange), yet Greece makes no claims to any of
>|> those territories.

>Totally and absolutely agree on that! However I am curious on any Bulgarian
>claims on Greek soil lately (the historical references you make about the wars
>are irrelevant. because at that time there still was substantial Bulgarian
>population in Northern Greece and/or many refugees, who wanted to go back to 
>their homes).
 
 I haven't heard of any Bulgarian claims on Greek soil lately. The relations
 between Greece and Bulgaria would have been better, if Bulgaria had handled
 more appropriately the recognition of Skopjia.  Yet, the current goverment
 of Bulgaria, acts "strangely".  There is unwillingness from the Bulgarian
 side to improve its relations with Greece. All these, while some two-three
 years ago, some people were talking about a new era in Greek-Bulgarian
 relations. 

 Personally, I never really understood the logic behind the recognition of
 "Macedonia" by Boulgaria.  Officially, Boulgaria does not recognize the 
 existence of a so called Macedonian nation.  So, what do they think the
 nationality of the "macedonians" is?  And why do they think that its
 recognition is "the only possible solution for peace in this area" (as the
 primeminister of Boulgaria said) ?.  Could please someone explain this
 to me?

>|> Michael.

>Vassil Peytchev

-- 
---> Panos Tamamidis
     University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
From: daniel@danbo.bg (Daniel Kalchev)
Subject: Re: E-mail addresses in Bulgaria
Organization: Digital Systems
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 22:02:26 GMT

lihouba@iris.weizmann.ac.il (Christo Houbaviy) writes:
: 
: Thanks a lot for the information. I don't know exactly what the EUnet is but
: none of these sites could be reached from here. Actually I haven't tried to
: send mail but those sites can not be fingered ('Unknown domain bg...'). Is this
: a mail only network? On the other hand the connection with BGEARN and BGCICT
: works (mail only). I wonder what the other netters' experience might be.

None of the sites has IP connection, for they just have not decided to
have one (equipment, experience, finances). EUnet is the oldest network
in Europe, the partner of UUnet in USA. Some people view EUnet as 'the
hackers network', and they are soemwhat true, for everything in EUnet works.

You will not be able to finger any of the .bg hosts, but maybe this
will be possible in a moth. Besides mail, EUnet offers also News to
anyone, not only the IP connected sites.

I wonder how one fingers a BITNET/EARN host. To al of my knowledge,
finger requires IP connectivity.

Best Regards from Varna,
Daniel
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
From: daniel@danbo.bg (Daniel Kalchev)
Subject: Re: Big train crash in Bulgaria
Organization: Digital Systems
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:45:50 GMT

ehganm2@uts.mcc.ac.uk (Nikolay Mehandjiev) writes:
: According to BBC  8 people have been killed and more than
: 30 injured in the train crash. A passenger train hit a
: shunting engine some 16 kilometers east of Sofia.

I was listening to the radio at that time, and a person who was in the
train did call (the Night Block, you know) and said that this all are
rumours, and that no engine was seen around, but that the train just
went off the railroad. 

Of course, this is just the comment I heard. The reality could have
been different.

Daniel
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
From: dbayer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Daniel L Bayer)
Subject: Re: E-mail addresses in Bulgaria
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 12:13:25 GMT

I have not yet tried to send anything to these very important addresses 
provided by Daniel Kachev in Bulgaria, but do not NOT try, since you can indeed
send e-mail to addresses which cannot be fingered.  For example I cannot finger
the University of Chicago or North Carolina from Ohio State, but can easily 
send e-mail.  Try sending to the postmaster there to see if the system works.
Good Luck.

Regards from Columbus,

Daniel Bayer
dbayer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
70724.3350@compuserve.com
dancho101@aol.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
From: daniel@danbo.bg (Daniel Kalchev)
Subject: Re: subscribers
Organization: Digital Systems
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 21:51:42 GMT

es182@albnyvms.bitnet writes:
: Is it possible to get a list of subscribers to the group?

Practicaly impossible, but from Bulgaria only the sites digsis.bg and
lanix.bg are connected at this moment.

Best Regards,
Daniel
lihouba
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Big train crash in Bulgaria
From: lihouba@iris.weizmann.ac.il (Christo Houbaviy)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 08:04:05 GMT
Organization: Weizmann Institute of Science, Computation Center

In article <5798@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> lb@ra.cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov) writes:
>
>I was just told that there has been a big train crash in Bulgaria - the
>Sunny Beach express. Haven't got any other details.

I would like to confirm the information.

>Regards
>
>Luben

Christo
From: lb@ra.cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Regular info from Bulgaria
Date: 15 Aug 92 12:13:23 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester UK


I was told few days ago that there is a chance for all participants in
s.c.b. to receive regular short and "fresh" information from Bulgaria
(daily excerpts of 1-2 KB) in case we (i.e. all interested in it) are able
to pay about $700 for 3 months. This is around $ 235 per month, which is
$2.5 per person in case there are 100 people ready to give this amount of
money for such information. In case there are more people (from the net or
even people who you know but don't have access to the news and are willing
to contribute) - the price per person will go down. Could all those
interested in this and ready to give $ 7 for 3 months mail to Plamen
Bliznakov - email address: BLIZNAKO@envmsa.eas.asu.edu who will be in
charge of the initiative.

Best regards

Luben
From: IO11412@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Olympic Medals for Bulgaria
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:00:12 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

Bulgaria is 17th in the ranking made according to the number of medals.
From: ehganm2@uts.mcc.ac.uk (Nikolay Mehandjiev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Big train crash in Bulgaria
Summary: BBC info for 8 killed and >30 injured
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:03:42 GMT
Organization: University of Hull, Hull, England.

According to BBC  8 people have been killed and more than
30 injured in the train crash. A passenger train hit a
shunting engine some 16 kilometers east of Sofia.

The train was full of holiday-makers from the Black Sea
resort of Burgas.
[ Not very good ad for our tourism industry :-( (Nikolay)]

Nikolay Mehandjiev