HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Question from a "Newbie"
Date: 27 Aug 1992 13:08:42 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article ceay9cy00WBKA4jr5K@andrew.cmu.edu, ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Peter A. Simon) writes:
>
>Notice the "former" in his sig.  He had his bike expropriated when it
>became clear that he was no longer holding up the standards of the net
>and the DoD.  

If I flame some newbies, will you give it back?

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: The Evolution of the Motorcycle
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:05:50 PDT
Followup-To: aus.motorcycles
Organization: DFWM, Inc

In article <BtKFMz.9Cq@quark.ansto.gov.au>, jef@quark.ansto.gov.au (J. E. Fearon) writes:
> 
> he wasn't happy, his Kingswood would sway on the corners,
> He enjoyed the wind in his hair, it was fun, and used bugger-all petrol, but
> he had tasted power, and craved for more.
> He also started wearing a helmet.
> he added two more cylinders to his Honda
> His insurance premium doubled and it cost a fortune to get
> He also created fear and the cliche "Enough is Enough".
> He would cruise up and down the hills in top gear and
> He would get off on the note but the hog was too heavy,
> he made the Bonneville.
> He still got pussy
> His bike was light and for the first
> him a pain in the arse. 
> he ran out of juice every
> He wasn't happy but shit he was close.
> He was determined to invent it.
> He could afford the

[ducati business deleted out of lack of taste]

jason, your theology stinks.  everybody knows that god rides a 
beemer.

ps. she invented sears, trucks, television sports, and guns for men to
play with.  it seemed easier than hiring a fulltime babysitter.  there
are so few that actually progress out of the "if you won't play my
way then i'll just take my toys and go home" stage. 
 
-- laurie
____________________________________________________________________
"Never underestimate the ability of a man to underestimate the abil-
ity of a woman."                                   --V.I. Warshawski

laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us                                   DoD #0023
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Subject: Re: Comments on R65?
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 02:49:25 GMT

In article <17m6keINN64d@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn) writes:
>
>	Were there any particularly good or bad years for the BMW R65s?
>Any general comments on these bikes from past/current owners?  Power in
>a 2-up situation?  Handling on twisties?  Aftermarket parts and ease of
>working on the bike?

I was quite happy with my 1980 vintage R65 in all the above respects,
except my wife complained that the side cases cut into the backs of
her knees when she was on back.

Be warned that my assessment of power and handling was NOT at DoD
approved speeds.

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
-- '80 BMW R65   BMWMOA #36829   DoD #0969   NRA #CDF6091M
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: Gas Leak - CB750
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 20:02:25 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.015523.5023@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> twalker@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Timothy M Walker) writes:
>
>Gotta Problem:
>
>My '81 CB750C is *pouring* gas out one of the rubber tubes.  I checked the 

One scenario: Stopped at gas station on the way in. Ignored owner's manual
recommendation to fill the tank up to the bottom of the filler pipe,
and filled the tank until it could be filled no more. Left bike parked
in the sun. Started bike. Gasoline pissed out of breather hose.

Open tank cap. Start bike. If the leaking stops then let it run for a couple
of minutes and close the cap and off you go. Should not leak anymore, until
the next time you overfill the tank before parking the bike. Bad idea, now
you know.

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine    DoD #275
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: spgo@is.morgan.com (Stefan Goellner)
Subject: Re: zx11 for sale
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:52:48 GMT

In article <763@zx11.UUCP>, joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner) writes:
|> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
|> >In article <l9kmrlINNl1c@news.bbn.com> rwatkins@BBN.COM (Ron Watkins) writes:
|> >>zx11 for sale
|> >>~1000 miles
|> >WHY?
|> 
|> he used the throttle and had his genitals torn off.
|> 
|> -- 
|> Joe Senner                                                 joe@zx11.Cactus.Org
                                                                  ^^^^
|> Austin, TX                                                       92 BMW K100RS
                                                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Is that why you sold yours, Joe??? :-)

stef
	     DoD#0190		              spgo@is.morgan.com
	'82 KZ550 (Commuter)		'84 750 Interceptor (Canyon Carver)
From: joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: golden spectro in sheep's clothing?
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:18:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: devnull.2376
Reply-To: joe@mpd.tandem.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Austin, TX.

]after responding to the gentleman's question about whether the oil bmw sells
]is golden spectro or not (at half the price), i checked the oil data i'd

to direct proper credit to Ed Hackett, the original author. I too found 
it tremendously useful and simply reposted it. I couldn't remember the
author's name at the time but have since learned. apologies to Ed for
not getting it right the first time.

there is also a followup article that expands a little on the original 
topic. I'm sure I saved it if anyone wants a copy (only email requests 
to joe@zx11.cactus.org will be answered).

-- 
Joe Senner                                          joe@zx11.cactus.org
Tandem Computers Inc.                               joe@mpd.tandem.com
From: CJOHNSON@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Motorcycle Battery Chargers
Date: 25 Aug 92 13:03:06 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

I want to purchase a Battery charger for my Motorcycle's. What
I am looking for is one that will shut off when the battery is fully charged.
Do you have any good idears on what type charger to be looking at.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Helmet Law Editorial
Keywords: Longish but well worth reading.
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 16:26:15 GMT

In article <19908@drutx.ATT.COM> klf@druwa.ATT.COM (FranklinKL) writes:
>	***********************************************************
>
>			Daily Times-Call Editorial
>
>	  	    We can't afford lack of helmet law
...
>Safety considerations aside, the Legislature should pass the law because it
>can't afford to throw away millions of dollars in federal highway money.
...
>Currently, 47 states have seen the light and passed helmet laws.


Change that to:
Currently, 47 states have seen the end of the gun barrel and passed helmet laws.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: steve@bucolix.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Subject: Re: Flat tire : What do you do ?
Reply-To: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:09:00 GMT

In article <EedWy6O00WBL42m=dW@andrew.cmu.edu> 
"Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>kens@hplsla.hp.com (Ken Snyder) sez:
>>peram@cs.tamu.edu (Suresh B Peram) writes:
>>>    If you get a flat in the middle of a city,
>>>    you can call somebody to pick it up.  What would
>>>    you do if you get a flat somewhere 100 miles from
>>>    a city at midnight ?  
>> 
>>  My can of Fix-a-Flat works anywhere/anytime.  I've only had 1 flat
>>on the street in the last 15 years so I hope my current can still works.
>>  I carry a plug kit when I'm out touring but from all I've read about
>>how well the fix goop works I doubt I'd ever use it.
>>Don't leave home without it,
>
>I've had three flats.  The fix-a-flat did not work on the ones caused by
>nails.  It did work on the one caused by a glazing point, butg that was
>a tiny, tiny nick.  
>Might it make a difference that I need tubes?  Does anybody know if it
>works better with tubeless tires?

I've had more than a handful of flats in the past 27 years.  When using 
tubed tires (on wheels requiring tubes), almost invariably, whenever the
tire picked up a nail, the tube would be *shredded*.  Many times this 
occurred near highway speeds, and the tire deflated very rapidly.  This 
likely increased the rate of tube-shredding since the business end of the
nail would thrash about inside the tire.  No goop-in-a-can can give you a
road fix for this, unless it'll expand into a solid rubber inner-tire 
(*fat* chance!).  When riding a tubed bike, I also carried a spare tube.

My personal experience with tubeless tires leads me to believe that there
is much less "drama" involved with picking up a nail...that is, I've yet to
have a nail-induced tubeless flat at highway speed that caused the tire to
flap-and-fold, pitching the bike from side-to-side.  Maybe I've been lucky,
but it appears that the tubeless tires (mounted on tubeless wheels) go flat 
at a slower rate than the tubed tires (mounted on wheels which require inner
tubes).  I do recall some rather "interesting" bike behavior after my tubed
tires would catch a nail, however.  I've used plugs and inside-tire patches 
for temporary repair of the tubeless tire, and then replaced the tire the
first chance I got.  YMMV.

Steve Garnier - DoD #00000005 - '79 XS1100SF w/ 157K+ miles and *climbing*
KotF (Flame),  KotAM (Anecdotal Motorcycle),  The Daemon's Byte
       Contrary to popular belief, I am not the Devil's advocate...
                  ...but I am his speech writer.
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: beginner's luck
Date: 26 Aug 1992 14:08:50 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article p1eqek8@fido.asd.sgi.com, cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio) writes:
>
>I'm another woman new to the sport.  
>
>Maybe I'm nuts, but I decided to stop saying "I've always
>wanted to [foo]", and to start DOING foo. 

Good for you!!

I'll leave the "best beginner bike" to others (your MSF instructors
will be a good source of info), and offer the following:

Even if you have to skimp on the "perfect" bike right now, get a good
helmet, boots, and gloves at a minimum.  If you can possibly afford it,
get a leather jacket, a motorcycle jacket, not a "fashion" one.

And since you're in rec.moto, here's your Ob. flame:

>"The absence of any corrective action year after year can only be explained 
>by bureaucratic rigidities and the abject worship of that bitch-goddess, 
>cost reduction."  --Ralph Nader, in Unsafe at Any Speed

What utter and complete bullshit!  Nadar's idea of "corrective action"
includes seat belt that are there whether you want 'em or not, helmets
on every motorcyclist, and God knows what else.  The absence of such
"corrective action" can be explained quite simply:  intelligent people
DON'T WANT IT!!!!!!!

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: vsk@is.morgan.com (Victor Kazdoba)
Subject: Re: HOV lanes
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:15:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep01.172006.20804@rchland.ibm.com>, essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum) writes:
|> 
|> what are HOV lanes?  what does HOV stand for?
|> 
|> axel

Axel,
H-igh O-ccupancy V-ehicle lanes.  During rush hour these lanes can only be 
occupied by bikes and cages with many cagers inside them.

Vic
DoD #4711
-- 
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|Victor Kazdoba                            Office:   (212)703-2051         |
|Morgan Stanley & Co, Inc.               Internet:   vsk@is.morgan.com     |
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jmcocker@eos.ncsu.edu (Mitch)
Subject: Re: Least Favorite Road Sign
Originator: jmcocker@c00004-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Keywords: oil roads sign
Reply-To: jmcocker@eos.ncsu.edu (Mitch)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:27:06 GMT


In article <sysop.170@elan.glassboro.edu>, sysop@elan.glassboro.edu (Ken Denton (Supervisor)) writes:
|>
|>Saw a sign last month that attracted my attention:
|>
|>	Freshly Oiled Road
|>
|>This is in southern New Jersey farm area, and I have no idea what the 
|>purpose of oiling a road is.  I did get to practice a quick U-turn, though.
|>

	I remember that when I was living in northern Alabama, occasionally
the dirt roads in our neighborhood would be sprayed with oil to keep the dust
level down.  This was some eleven years ago, and the current trend towards
being friendly to Earth has probably done away with this.


|>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
|>%          Ken Denton                     DOD# 1124           %
|>%          sysop@elan.glassboro.edu       82 CB750K           %
|>%                                                             %
|>%                         "Your Ad Here!"                     %
|>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
|>


Mitch ---------------------------> jmcocker@eos.ncsu.edu
From: cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com (R. Craig Dodson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: GSRX's and Posing
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:42:03 GMT
Reply-To: cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com

> You call the GSXR heavy and slow and then suggest the FJ. Am I missing
> something. Were talking the FJ 1200 ?
> 
> Riding the FJ is like dancing with your granny. She's friendly and
> more than willing but she's heavy, kind of wobbly on her feet, and
> looking old. I'll take the sporty babe any day.

Interesting analogy, but very wrong. Weight is very similar to
that of the ZX-11, 1100 Katana, 1000 'Cane, etc. Wobbly ?  Yeah
and monkey's might fly out of the pipes !   NOT.
> 
> Most rides are less than 45 min. long so ask yourself if you want the
> ideal bike for the occasional long trip or the more common daily commute.

AH HA - a poser is revealed !  You have perfectly summarized the usefulnes
bikes like the GSXR, ZX-7, etc. Loads of fun for about 45 miuntes. 45
minutes of cruising around your town looking cool (posing). 45 minutes
of blazing around a race track. With the FJ, you can actually
ride for (gasp) *hours* at a time. You know - to actually ride to a
destination, and still keep pace with the fastest of the fast in all
but the peg-scraping-est twisties.
> 
> As for comfort, your body gets used to anything. When you get older you
> look more and more for comfort. If you follow this route you can find
> yourself out of bikes and into Buicks.

Nice logic. Sleep on the floor do you ? Sit in straight-back wooden 
chairs at work ? Hey if you dig pain for pain's sake that's cool with me.
I've spent some time on a ZX-7 and fun as it may be, my body wasn't
getting used to it. It was saying "Hey fool - this bike was designed for
a 5'5" body frame" and even then for *45* minutes at a time.
> 
> I think there was a 55 or so old/young! guy who did the iron but on a
> GSXR. Now there's my role model.

His chiropractor is my role model. I wonder if he has stock in Suzuki ?
> 
>                         Jorg

I'm not knocking the GSRX or the people who *ride* them. I am knocking the
squids who pose on them and zip down Main St. USA dressed in neon with their
dates on the back on Friday nights. 

Give me a 100mph sweeper in the mountains any day !

Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer)
cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com
1992 FJ1200A
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bergman@panix.com (Mark Bergman)
Subject: Re: Flaming made easy
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 06:04:14 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <8eazb7i00WBM47X0VO@andrew.cmu.edu> "Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>Since we claim to "Live to Flame, Flame to Live" (did I get that right? 
>I think it's pretty stupid and never paid much attention) I offer
>herewith a standard form to make flaming more efficient.
>
>
>STANDARD REC.MOTORCYCLE FLAME REPLY FORM
>
> TO  :___________________________
> FROM:___________________________
>
>I have read your recent post concerning_________________.  I regret that
>due to severe time constraints I am unable to respond to your posting
>directly.  However, I would like to advise you that I believe that your
>posting:
>
> __contains an unacceptable  ____logic
>   number of errors in:      ____fact
>                             ____spelling/grammar

			      __X_ FORMATTING!

[Remainder of original posting deleted to preserve sanity and disk space.]

----
Mark Bergman		'77 KZ1000
Brooklyn, NY
718-855-9148

bergman@panix.com
{cmcl2,psi,uunet,apple}!panix!bergman
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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Fabulous Harley Babe Bashing etc.
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 16:30:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep01.225917.10837@microsoft.com> genam@microsoft.com (Gena Merritt) writes:
>In article <Btwqnt.9GG@waterloo.hp.com> romanko@waterloo.hp.com (Jeff Romanko) writes:
>>:
>>: 
>>: Any Questions?? 
>>: 
>>: Tod J. Johnson
>>
>>How come a lot of women on the backs of Harley's appear to be 20 years or
>>so younger than the gentlemen driving?
>
>so that is why my ex has a 20 year old now?
>

Woody rides a Harley?
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: purp@wixer.cactus.org (Jim Meyer)
Subject: Re: new bike .vs. vasectomy
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 22:55:34 GMT

In article <2356@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> joe@mpd.tandem.com writes:
[Note: There were no attributions here, but I believe it's correct to say:]
> In some article, laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbot) writes:
>] In some article, joe@mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner) writes:
>]> On a local shock radio show here (DC101), a woman just called up and 
>]> said she's really pissed because her husband just took the money he
>]> was supposed to use for a vasectomy and bought a motorcycle!
>]> Now THERE'S a guy who should get an honorary DoD#!
>]
>]irresponsibility in things that matter is no great attribute, nor does
>]it bode well for his attitude about OTHER things that matter, like
>]riding well.  quite the contrary.  i am NOT impressed. 
>
> ...
>
>a couple of items from the original provide quite a bit of insight
>into this mans situation. 
>    1) "the money she gave him"
	 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

On a neutral note: Huh? Where'd you see that? Did you hear that and just
not type it? I'd hate to think you built the thesis of your flame around
a nonexistent ember...

On a personal note: Laurie, I can see why she'd be pissed. However, I
can also see why he may not care to go under the knife. Just from
reading what Joe typed originally, I could surmise any of the following:

* They talked about it, they agreed, he took the money, cold-footed, and
  bought the bike.

* She gave him money of hers to get a vasectomy; he didn't, he got a
  bike.

* She told him to spend his *own* money on a vasectomy; he didn't want
  to and then bought a bike.

ANY of those conclusions can be drawn from reading Joe's earlier post.
Often times what one person thinks someone is "supposed to use" their
money for is not what the OWNER of the money thinks it is best spent on.

--Purp, with a two wheeler...or a DoD number. But both should be on the way.

Flames will be routed to /dev/fireplace.
-- 
+---------------+------------------------------+-----------------------+
| Jim Meyer     | If I express an opinion, you | purp@wixer.cactus.org |
| Austin, Tejas | can bet no one else agrees.  | aka jimpurp@pro-lep   |
+---------------+------------------------------+-----------------------+
From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 17:38:29 GMT
Subject: Re: Wheelies?  Ouch!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

In rec.motorcycles, fleckens@plains.NoDak.edu (Clint Fleckenstein) writes:

> I just watched a friend of mine do almost the same thing.  I do
> block-long wheelies at every possible opportunity on my EX 500
> (ie SQUID) and he wanted to do the same thing on his 250 Ninja.
> 
> Unfortunately he revved REALLY hard and dumped the clutch.  It
> literally took off without him.  We bent the handlebar back 
> into place and ordered a new tail light.  Left a great black
> mark though.

Bitch, dude.  I sure hope he didn't scratch his Ray Bans or tear his
thongs. 

A bit of advice.  If you want to learn how to wheelie, don't start by 
dumping the clutch from a dead stop.  It's simply too unpredictable.  
Rather, get moving.  Either do a wheelie when upshifting, do a roll-on 
wheelie, or clutch it while rolling.  Look for a nice bump or hill to 
make the wheelie easier to start.  

BTW, check your local laws.  Here in Colorado, a wheelie ticket will take
you most of the distance towards losing your license.  It's a good thing
that my street bike is such a gutless fat pig. 

-Jeff Deeney-  KotD #0000  DoD#0498    NCTR    '88 XR600-Shamu   
jld@hpfcla.fc.hp.com       AMA#540813  COHVCO  '81 CB750F-Llamaha 
We don't stop doing wheelies because we get old, 
   we get old because we stop doing wheelies.
From: am2o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Alexander Samuel McDiarmid)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy!!!
Date: 3 Sep 92 03:16:01 GMT
	<1992Aug27.141317.19352@rchland.ibm.com>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

to whomever asked and anyone else who does not allready know, I do not
know if there is a <Mobil 1> speficially for motorcycles, however I
understand that motorcycle spefic oils tend to have more detergents and
stuff as a result of the fact that motorcycle engines tend to be high
strung and much more roughly used than auto engines.

											-a
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