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From: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: Working in Japan [English]
Date: 2 Sep 92 08:10:24 GMT
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Organization: Matsushita Electric Works Ltd., Tokyo, Japan.


    >>
    >>1) Never ask your boss first if you REALLY want to do something.

inagaki> 	I am waiting for your 2) and 3); your 1) was very interesting.

I don't want to tell everything... Who knows my boss is reading
this group?? :-) 

As I don't want to compromise myself, don't you guys have some another
good insight? Pleaaaaaaaaase. :-)

Thought of the day:
       "I was upgraded from networking engineer to nOtworking Engineer"
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From: okamoto@earth.chigaku.souka.osakafu-u.ac.jp (Kenji Okamoto)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: How to survive in Japan [English]
Summary: However, now you learn it is the way of Japanese
Date: 4 Sep 92 03:20:11 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Univ. of Osaka Prefecture, Dept of Earth Science, Sakai, Japan

In article <CLAUDE.92Sep3165937@tokyo.trc.mew.mei.co.jp>, claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) writes:

> Then, I thought that would be difficult and I made more and more
> plans and all the time I heard:
> 
> -Muzukashii desu ne...
> 
> Then, at last I understood that "A Japanese never says NO, he
> will make you tired to death before you can got an answer...."

You fortunately became to understand the way of Japanese company.
Then, how do you do after that experience. 
You _STILL_ hold your way of life in Japan ?

Why ??

You are in Japan, ANOTHER civilized world, something different from
your mother land.  It's very natural, I think.

How wrong the Jpanese way ?  It's our custum.
I don't think it's wrong.
It's a way to unify people's consensus to do something concentrating
all the powers without loss.  If you need, we can outport it to you.:-)

We should have much more chance to tell our custum to foreigners,
particularly to whom cannot doubt that the way of Western custom is wright
eternally, so I need fj.life.in-Japan.  This is another reason. ^_^

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Newsgroups: fj.misc
From: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: How to survive in Japan [English]
Date: 4 Sep 92 08:00:18 GMT
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> Then, I thought that would be difficult and I made more and more
> plans and all the time I heard:
> 
> -Muzukashii desu ne...
> 
> Then, at last I understood that "A Japanese never says NO, he
> will make you tired to death before you can got an answer...."

Kenji> You fortunately became to understand the way of Japanese company.

Yes, fortunately I understood that and quitted from that company..:-)

Kenji> You _STILL_ hold your way of life in Japan ?
Kenji> Why ??

Well, I'm not Frank Sinatra, but I have "my way"...:-) 

I really tried to adapt to Japan, and I think I was very
successful on it. However, after sometime I had the following
psychological dilemma: 
   "How to be an adapted person when everybody is expecting
    to you act 'as a foreigner'"? 

Think about:

   -> How a long a foreigner can stay here? 
   -> What are their limitations?
   -> Don't Japanese stereotype foreigners?
 
Since I had some very serious problems here, I gave up and now
I'm trying to me RE-adapt to my original values. (now I cannot
speak well neither my mother languages nor japanese... :-) ).

Kenji> How wrong the Jpanese way ?  It's our custum.
Kenji> I don't think it's wrong.

Well, I don't know what would be "wrong" or "right" in this case.


Kenji> eternally, so I need fj.life.in-Japan.  This is another reason. ^_^

Yes. Sure We need it!

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Newsgroups: fj.misc,fj.mail
From: shin@wide.ad.jp (Shin YOSHIMURA)
Subject: Re: E-mail from Nifty-serve/PC-VAN?
X-Md4-Signature: 15f305dca837ff4f11801a0ace21a5c6
Organization: WIDE Project
Distribution: fj
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:03:41 GMT

>>>>> On 3 Sep 92 07:22:32 GMT, claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) said:


claude> I've read that would be possible to connect from Nifty-serve to Wide-net.
claude> Does anyone know when this service will be available?

These are already available, but now it is restricted to limited
domains.  If you need that, please write why and how you use it.
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From: inagaki@aclab1.resrch.anritsu.co.jp (Shintaro Inagaki)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: Endless discussions?...[ENGLISH]
Date: 27 Aug 92 02:40:43 GMT
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Distribution: fj
Organization: Research Lab., Anritsu Corp., Atsugi-shi, JAPAN
In-reply-to: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp's message of 26 Aug 92 06:23:55 GMT

In article <CLAUDE.92Aug26152355@tokyo.trc.mew.mei.co.jp> claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) writes:
    >>
    >>How true.. How true... (Unfortunately.) :-(
    >>
Very true.

I wonder whether this tendency of endless discussion is specific to FJ,
or it is common to other netter groups to a certain extent.

It seems to comes from the nature of computer network.
A book (T. N. Huckin and L. A. Olsen:
Technical Writing and Professional Communication, McGraw-Hill Inc., p. 118)
said, "One (study on electric communication) found
that groups communicating electronically
had more antisocial behavior and made more extreme decisions
than groups communicating in traditional way.
Two others found that responses to an electronic questionnarie were
more extreme, more revealing, and less socially acceptable
than were responses to a paper version of the questionnarie."

I broke out into laughter when I came to this;
for me this statement is funniest one in books on writing.

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From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: Endless discussions?...[ISO376 ENGLISH] [+JAPANESE]
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:37:11 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) writes:

...

>btw, where is everybody? :-)

zzzz .. <snore> .. zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Dave

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From: aki@mel.toshiba.CO.JP (Yoshiaki Kohno)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: Endless discussions?...[ISO376 ENGLISH]
Date: 28 Aug 92 02:22:15 GMT
Reply-To: aki@mel.toshiba.co.jp
Distribution: fj
Organization: Manufacturing Engineering Research Center, TOSHIBA Corp., Japan
In-reply-to: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp's message of 26 Aug 92 04:15:44 GMT

claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) writes:
 >ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz... Wake me up when the "lords" of FJ decide
 >to vote something and end up all those divagations...

All right. I'm not sleeping.  I'm not one of the "lords" but just a
hobbit who likes being lazy and puffing smoke, though :-)

 >Here is some interesting stuff I got from soc.culture.brazil
 >about some Monty Python scene (Doesn't it look like some
 >newsgroup in FJ??? :-) )
 >[scene stuff deleted]

Yes, it DOES. But since that conversation is from Monty Python's
"Argument Lesson" sketch, I know because I have 2 CD set titled "Final
Rip Off", they are merely exercising their eloquence. The situation 
somewhere in fj is surely worse :-(   Those discussions or divagations
can be carried on AFTER the creation of the news group, arn't they.

Oh, this is just my impression.  Don't bomb me with flames.
I'm just a humble hobbit...

If my memory is correct, Person2 was played by John Clees, and the
sketch ended with "Being Hit at Head" lesson.  If anyone is
interested, let me know. I can check MP text collection published in
UK. I'm sure it has printed text of the sketch, though I don't have
the book at hand right now.

 >Disclaimer:"Any resemblance with some fj newsgroup discussion 
 >	      IS NOT MERE COINCIDENCE...:-( "

Very unfortunate conincidence indeed... Please no flame, just a hobbit
I am.
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Newsgroups: fj.misc
From: mtachiba@rkna50.riken.go.jp (Masahiko Tachibana)
Subject: Re: Endless discussions?...[ISO376 ENGLISH] [+JAPANESE]
Organization: Institute of Physical & Chemical Research (RIKEN) Saitama,Japan
Distribution: fj
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 05:37:54 GMT

In article <CLAUDE.92Aug26131544@tokyo.trc.mew.mei.co.jp> claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) writes:
>
>ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz... Wake me up when the "lords" of FJ decide
>to vote something and end up all those divagations...
>
>Here is some interesting stuff I got from soc.culture.brazil
>about some Monty Python scene (Doesn't it look like some
>newsgroup in FJ??? :-) )

  [omitted to make this article short]

    OK, OU-KAAEY.  I'll wake you up if anyone would wake me up. :-)
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starts here:
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Subject: Re: This is SO pointless... PLEASE READ THIS EVERYONE
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In article <1992Aug22.033206.26783@en.ecn.purdue.edu> 
muehlhau@en.ecn.purdue.edu writes:
>Hi all... I am back from an AWESOME summer.  Just a few observations:
>
>1.   This group never gets anywhere with any of the discussions and
>     arguments are never decided.
>2.   The only thing anyone learns is how to defend themselves and
>     maybe (just maybe) a little theology.
>3.   The honesty and willingness to learn and change is severly
>     lacking in many poster personalities.
 
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    Replacing theology to theory or standpoint, etc., isn't it hold 
true on the network communications?
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From: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss)
Newsgroups: fj.misc,fj.mail
Subject: E-mail from Nifty-serve/PC-VAN?
Date: 3 Sep 92 07:22:32 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Matsushita Electric Works Ltd., Tokyo, Japan.


I've read that would be possible to connect from Nifty-serve to Wide-net.
Does anyone know when this service will be available?

Thanks,

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From: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: How to survive in Japan [English]
Date: 3 Sep 92 07:59:37 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Matsushita Electric Works Ltd., Tokyo, Japan.


inagaki> 2) Be extremely careful not to use bad Japanese, when talking about your boss.

inagaki>    One of my foreign friends meant "I do not like the way my boss does things,"
inagaki>    or "I think my boss has bad attitude."
inagaki>    He accidentally use the direct translation of this:
inagaki>    "Boku no joushi wa taido ga warui to omoi masu."
inagaki>    This sounds too magnanimous, and is very impolite Japanese;
inagaki>    probably this is the last thing to say.

I think he could use the following strategy:

3) When you want to say what you think to a Japanese, grin from ear to ear
  ( and say it in english, if you can).

I was catched many times calling my boss as "X-kun"... :-)

That reminds me when I came to Japan, and my boss that time said 
(When I showed my project):

-Muzukashii desu ne...

Then, I thought that would be difficult and I made more and more
plans and all the time I heard:

-Muzukashii desu ne...

Then, at last I understood that "A Japanese never says NO, he
will make you tired to death before you can got an answer...."


A la prochaine fois... 
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From: kuno@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp (Yasushi Kuno)
Subject: Seasons in Japan [English]
Organization: GSSM Otsuka, Univ. of TSUKUBA, Tokyo, Japan
Distribution: fj
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 05:57:17 GMT

Hello,

    Yesterday I have post 3rd CFD for fj.life.in-japan and am eased
(Yare-Yare!).  So why not spend my time for more pleasant-to-deal-with
topics?

    About 10 days ago, someone has posted a question of good place to
visit in Autumn.  (I've post my followup article, but no response
at all.  What is he and his friend going after all?)

    Well, I've been told many times that Japan is outstanding in the
world that it's apperance (I mean templature, weather, sight of
mountains and hills...) differ largely between its four seasons.
Perhaps in my English classroom at high- or junior-high school.

    So I thought summer is harder to deal with in Japan than in U.S.A
or Europe, but two of my friends told me such is not the case.  I also
know that winter is harder there because Japan is sorrounded by sea.
Then, my teacher has taught me something untrue?  Or have I missed
something?  I'd like to hear opinion from other countries...

							Yasushi Kuno

P.S. Anyway, highland will be appropriate place to visit during
     August.  I've been waiting for Rafael's Mt. Fuji report, but
     have not seen one posted.  Did I overlooked one?
Newsgroups: fj.papers,fj.comp.comm,fj.comp.misc
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Subject: CFP: JSSST Network for Software systems
Originator: news@nova
Organization: Dept Info Sci, Kyoto Univ
Distribution: fj
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 06:12:08 GMT

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Subject: CFP: JSSST Network for Software systems
Originator: news@nova
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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 06:08:53 GMT

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From: shuichi@skunk.nri.co.jp (Shuichiro Okamura)
Newsgroups: fj.rec.autos
Subject: Re: car insurance
Date: 1 Sep 92 05:12:22 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Nomura Research Institute, Ltd.

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