HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: click! / colorful phrases
Date: 12 Oct 1992 21:32:54 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Oct12.084142.690@zia.aoc.nrao.edu>, dbriggs@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Daniel Briggs) writes:
=In article <1ba2s4INNje6@gap.caltech.edu>
=  lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
=>StM agrees, "Aahz is right.  There are actually folks out there who will damn
=>near go ballistic if they hear you use the term `handicapped' ...
=      ^^^^^^^^^^^^
=
="I've always liked this phrase, though thinking it through it's not clear why
=it invokes the powerful image that it does.  Something going ballistic is
=completely predictable, sailing along via Newton.  Not really the image of
=an angry person.

Consider phrases like "He hit the ceiling when he heard about..." or "He went
through the roof when he heard about...," which implies the former.  "Going
ballistic" would seem to imply both of the above, with the addition of enough
extra to allow one to coast for a while.
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Making overtures...
Date: 12 Oct 1992 20:46:29 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <BvzHFJ.834@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski) writes:
=>"Well, that's easy enough. Just ask another felinoid who is -not- diabetic
=>to help with the grooming. We felines groom each other all the time, when
=>among friends."
=
=>She gives StM her best attempt at an innocent expression. Then giggles and
=>licks her lips, saying "Besides, I'm rather fond of Caramel. I wouldn't
=>mind assisting you, and I'm sure there are othes of feline nature here who
=>might like to help. Ocelot! Kitten! What do you say? Shall we help our
=>sweet friend StM out of this sticky situation?" She glances at the other
=>female felinoids in the room, as she saunters over to StM.
=
=>"Hmmmm?"
=
=>Purrrs,
=>Thyra
=
=kitten just giggles and sticks her tongue out...."sounds good to
=me...and we promise to not bite you.... too hard...."

How could StM pass up an offer like that?  OK.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: rowanf@crc.ricoh.com (Rowan Fairgrove)
Subject: Re: click!
Reply-To: rowanf@crc.ricoh.com (Rowan Fairgrove)
Organization: RICOH California Research Center
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 19:40:22 GMT

daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom) writes:
> Do not use the phrase 'differently abled'.  It is nonsense.  My
>father has been in a wheelchair for almost 30 years now, and
>he would be the first to tell you that he is downright handicapped.

Your father is not the only differently abled or handicapped
person in the world and the spectrum of disabilities is great.
Some of us feel differently abled is an appropriate term for
our abilities.  

I have never particularly appreciated being called disabled 
or handicapped.  There are many things I cannot do that
people whose bodies are whole can do, but that just means
I can do different things or perhaps the same things differently.

Rowan (Gypsy Woman)
Who enjoys being able to dance in VR.




Rowan Fairgrove
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: click!
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:25:46 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <1992Oct8.194022.20618@crc.ricoh.com> rowanf@crc.ricoh.com (Rowan Fairgrove) writes:
>daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom) writes:
>> Do not use the phrase 'differently abled'.  It is nonsense.  My
>>father has been in a wheelchair for almost 30 years now, and
>>he would be the first to tell you that he is downright handicapped.
>
>Your father is not the only differently abled or handicapped
>person in the world and the spectrum of disabilities is great.
>Some of us feel differently abled is an appropriate term for
>our abilities.  
>
>I have never particularly appreciated being called disabled 
>or handicapped.  There are many things I cannot do that
>people whose bodies are whole can do, but that just means
>I can do different things or perhaps the same things differently.

Just to throw in my 2 cents worth:

I'm minus some 80dB of auditory capability.  I prefer being called
'hearing impaired', as that refers to the precise nature of my
disability/handicap.  Unfortunately, this neat phrase does not always
correspond well with the impairment that a particular person possesses.
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Who needs Lime Jello [tm]?  We had lasagna.....
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: A tale which kneeds telling
Date: 16 Oct 1992 06:25:29 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Oct15.225637.15675@ucc.su.OZ.AU>, neilb@physics.su.OZ.AU (RiemannZeta(s)) writes:
>While this is going, The Bellman walks in, tired out after a
>night ringing bells, and orders a cider (large, very large) turns
>to Mike and says " There was this lady I heard about recently, wife
>of a rich rancher. When her husband died she decided that it was time
>to see more of life, so she left the ranch in the hands of her sons
>and headed for the city. Before she left she renamed the ranch Focus
>because that was where the sons raise meet"

StM says, "You know, that reminds me of the time Roy Rogers and his wife, Dale
Evans went camping.  Now, Roy had just bought a new pair of boots, so he was
rather distressed when he found, upon waking up the next morning, that a cougar
had apparently spent a bit of time during the night gnawing on his boots.  He
wanted revenge on that cougar, but, his boots having been thoroughly ruined,
wasn't really in a position to track it down.  Dale, of course, volunteered to
do it, and a few hours later returned, dragging a cougar carcass.  Upon
reaching camp, she asked her husband,

`Pardon me Roy, it that the cat that chewed your new shoes?'"

(I hope that more patrons here are familiar with the song "Chattanooga Choo-Choo"
than were with "Ramblin' Wreck From Georgia Tech" last time I tried to make a
pun based on a song).
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: Speaker for the Dead
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 16:13:37 GMT

In article <9228514.16090@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> baillie@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Stephen Baillie) writes:
>daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom) writes:
>
>>But I DO say that the environment of callahans is just as capable
>>of increasing a nascent tendency to suicide as it is of decreasing it.
>>Callahans offers the seeming acceptance of friendship without the   <--
>>corresponding physical presence and the affirmation it gives.  I think \
>>can be a big problem and can lead to certain kinds of obsessive         |
>>behaviors that may exacerbate emotional problems.                       |
>                                                                         |
>>If you are simply sad or depressed, by all means, come here.            |
>>But if you have more serious problems it MAY be just as well to         |
>>avoid this environment like the plague.                                 |
>                                                                        /
>There is, as usual, much in what Doug says.  Especially this bit:-------
>
>Callahans seemed to me like a place that offered friendship and
>understanding, something I was looking rather hard for.  It took
>me quite a while to discover that despite this impression, there
>was definitely something lacking.

If you feel that way, I'm not going to argue with you.  I will say that
my own experience is somewhat different: while alt.callahans the
electronic newsgroup can't offer anything physically, Callahanians (the
people inhabiting a.c) can -- and often do.
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Who needs Lime Jello [tm]?  We had lasagna.....
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: gardner@hale.ifa.hawaii.edu (Jonathan Gardner)
Subject: Re: Callahan's is for everyone
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 09:03:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.041201.9082@ucc.su.OZ.AU> pope@physics.su.OZ.AU (The Nightstalker) writes:
>"God bless you Mike, a coke please, the caffine is much needed.  And
>here is another dollar.  Give Space Cadet whatever is his usual, and tell
>him thanks."

"Thanks, Nightstalker, that Coke looks good, I'll have the same," the
Space Cadet says. "With ice please, Mike," he adds, just for practice.

>The Nightstalker downs the coke in one gulp, burps loudly and swings the
>glass towards the fireplace in a baseball pitch-like action.
>
>"To the place, whatever spirit that is at work here, may it continue."
>
><crash>

<<CRASH>>

> The Nightstalker.....

The Sace Cadet
Durham, England, but still posting from Hawaii
--
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Jon Gardner                                gardner@hale.ifa.hawaii.edu
Institute for Astronomy                           University of Hawaii
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From: daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:57:35 GMT
Subject: Re: Speaker for the Dead
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: alt.callahans

In alt.callahans, jpalmer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John D Palmer) writes:

>   But while there is a time for counseling, for looking for long term help, 
> there is also the short, painfully lonely feeling that sometimes strikes, the 
> feeling that no one knows, no one cares, and no one WOULD care if they DID 
> know.  That is, there are times when you need a friend.  That is one of the 
> times that knowing someone here can mean something.

Yes, I do not disagree, but a local friend would be even better, and
there ARE sublte dangers to virtual communication that can lay traps
for the emotionally vulnerable and people who are unskilled in interaction.

When I was having tough times, there were people here who helped me
a fair amount, but it was always a very touchy thing, with hints
of co-dependence and such.  I think people who do not have their
act together should glance at the seeming romance of this forum with
suspicion.

> 
>   I don't  think I am disagreeing with you, really, but I did kinda want to 
> soften the idea you were spreading; yeah, friendship is not a substitute for 
> someone who KNOWS what to do, but friendship isn't nothing, either, you know?

I did not say that it was.

But I DO say that the environment of callahans is just as capable
of increasing a nascent tendency to suicide as it is of decreasing it.
Callahans offers the seeming acceptance of freindship without the
corresponding physical presense and the affirmation it gives.  I think
can be a big problem and can lead to certain kinds of obsessive
behaviors that may exacerbate emotional problems.

If you are simply sad or depressed, by all means, come here.
But if you have more serious problems it MAY be just as well to
avoid this environment like the plague.       

doug
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen)
Subject: Re: Another Introduction
Organization: Murdoch University
Date: 10 Oct 92 13:40:55 GMT

jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce) writes:

>  <chuckle> "Have you ever been to Texas ? Back when I was a Theatrical Design
>Major, my theater voice instructor commented that she had heard people say such
>things over the year as 'winder' for 'window' , but Texans instead of adding
>a letter or two would add syllables !!! She told us that in Texas the word
>s**t has three syllables ! Its a good thing I lost my Texas accent, well its
>softened somewhat, otherwise most people would find my talking hard to
>understand..." Dreamy Jim.
> 
Hah ... you have problems with Texans?  I have to prevent myself from
correcting Americanisms in people's posts!  What usually stops me is the
realization that probably 90% of network posts are by Americans  :-)

Splash!

--
***************************** Michael van Keulen *************************** 
* Snail: School of BES - Biology         e-mail: keulen@murdoch.edu.au     *
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From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: StM gets a Licking
Date: 16 Oct 1992 04:13:39 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Oct15.202550.19832@nntp.uoregon.edu>, JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt (Thyra)) writes:
>Thyra, purring herself, chuckles as most of the felines depart back to the
>shadows. Now it is just three of them. StM, still flat out on his tummy,
>Kitten curled up on one side and toying with his ear, and Thyra kneeling in
>a straddled position across the small of his back. Thyra leans forward and
>purrs into StM's ear. "Well, now that the caramel's out of your fur, would
>you care to join us for a soak in the hot tub?" She gently kneads the
>middle of his back as she waits for StM's response.

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Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: rlm7337@tamsun.tamu.edu (Incarnadine)
Subject: Re: Redheads
Organization: Castle BBS
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 05:18:05 GMT

In article <1ba1ujINNje6@gap.caltech.edu> lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
>In article <9228514.15568@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, baillie@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Stephen Baillie) writes:
>=>+--------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ 
>=>|   "To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, |
>=>| thou canst not then be false to any man..."  --William Shakespeare      |
>=>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
>=
>=Who?
>
>Polonius, if I recall correctly.  The same character who advised "Neither a
>borrower nor lender be...."  It amazes me that so many people treat these
>things as useful proverbs, considering the character overall.

I thought it was Hamlet...I could be mistaken tho.

Inky

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Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: ssample1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Stephen and Roo)
Subject: re: MIA re: Nao
Organization: Swarthmore College
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 17:43:05 GMT

Stephen gets up (hitting his head on a rafter), walks to the chalkboard,
and draws a small five-pointed asterisk by Nao's name


Stephen and Roo Sample
ssample1@cc.swarthmore.edu
From: pope@physics.su.OZ.AU (The Nightstalker)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: The Nightstalker drops in
Date: 14 Oct 92 02:56:35 GMT
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia

The whiring of a photocopier can be heard from outside the bar, and as
the door opens, the smell of toner and ozone assaults the noses of the
regular patrons.  In walks The Nightstalker with his pupils dilated from
the constant flashing of the photocopier.  He carries a bundle of journal
articles with titles such as; 'Colliding and Merging Galaxies' or 'Strong
Radio Sources in Bright Spiral Galaxies', and so on.  Finally he plonks
himself down in a chair and drops the bundle in front of him.

"A coke Mike, and another for Spacey if he is around.  I have been buried
in trying to write a lit-survey on the enhancement of radio emission of
interacting galaxies.  Pretty neat stuff but I would love to start doing
some work of my own.  Hnece I have been lurking a bit.  Hi people!!  Where
is my favorite Sprite??  Hi there.  An Carole you sexy thing.  Hi there DM!
I have been pretty busy, but I thought I'd say hi there to people."

The Nightstalker downs his coke, and returns to a mountain of paper.

--
The Nightstalker.....




 THE PSYCHOLOGICAL PROGNOSIS: Love is a form of temporary insanity
 curable only by marriage.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt (Jason))
Subject: Re: click!
Organization: University of Oregon, Architecture
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 23:54:31 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.194022.20618@crc.ricoh.com>, rowanf@crc.ricoh.com
(Rowan Fairgrove) writes:
> 
> daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom) writes:
> > Do not use the phrase 'differently abled'.  It is nonsense.  My
> >father has been in a wheelchair for almost 30 years now, and
> >he would be the first to tell you that he is downright handicapped.
> 
> Your father is not the only differently abled or handicapped
> person in the world and the spectrum of disabilities is great.
> Some of us feel differently abled is an appropriate term for
> our abilities.  
> 
> I have never particularly appreciated being called disabled 
> or handicapped.  There are many things I cannot do that
> people whose bodies are whole can do, but that just means
> I can do different things or perhaps the same things differently.
> 
> Rowan (Gypsy Woman)
> Who enjoys being able to dance in VR.

Jason walks up and joins the conversation. "I always preferred the term
"Physically Challenged" myself, where I felt I had to make any distinction
at all. None of my friends who happen to travel on wheels have ever
objected to that appelation. Personally, I tend to "tune out" the chair,
and concentrate on the person and what they -can- do. I've never noticed
anything -different- or -less- about friends like Rowan here, and I doubt I
would in RL, either."

"However, Rowan also has a good point about VR." He makes a low sweeping
bow to the Gypsy Woman. "May I have the honor of this dance? Pick the music
and style, and I shall follow your lead. And, should we ever meet in RL, I
promise to show you that even on wheels, there are ways to dance."

Jason
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: fsjac3@cthor.acf-lab.alaska.edu (Jennifer A Cabbage)
Subject: great  land
Organization: University of Alaska Computer Network
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 04:50:24 GMT

A figure appears out of nowhere, momentarily obscured by swirling snow. A  
blast of bitter wind rips through the Place and vanishes in the blink of  
an eye.
    Patch stomps her feet and shakes the snow out of her hair.
"Well, hello.  I guess I'm another 'lurker', come to light.
"Are there any other lurkers out there from Alaska ?"
From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Another Introduction
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:12:03 GMT
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi

(The Polymath) writes:
>For example:
>
>	ratcheer -- a description of where something is.
>		    'Where is it?'  'It's ratcheer.'
>
>	ouchonder -- opposite of ratcheer.
>		     'If it ain't ratcheer it must be ouchonder.'
>
>	jeetyet? -- 'Have you had any food?'
>
>	nahlesqueet -- 'Nope.  Let's get something to eat.'
>
>"And so on ..." (-:{
>

        DJ starts to smile, then chuckle, then laughs, then starts to
laugh so hard he falls to the floor and starts laughing even harder !
"Yup, Texans talk like that ! One of the things I was asked while I was
 in the Navy was: 'You're from Texas, what hell is he saying anyway ?'
 We were watching then Pres. Lyndon Baines Johnson give a speech. My reply:
 'I don't know what he is saying as he is from the Perdanales area of
 Texas and they have word patterns all their own !' " 

-- 
 Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science
 jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.
  "Is it the weekend yet ?" me :-)
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Grrr...
Date: 10 Oct 1992 01:21:21 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <BvvIs0.Aus@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca>, yho@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Yue-shun E. Ho) writes:
=But VMS keeps all versions of the same file unless someone purges them.
=  And the disk will become full much much quicker, which is not something
=  DM wants either.  Maybe you would suggest CMS instead, eh?  

To avert this problem, one need only put a command of the form:
	$ PURGE/KEEP=n filespec
in one's LOGIN.COM.  Then whenever one logs in, old versions will be purged. 
Of course, what with VMS allowing disconnectable terminals, its been over a
month since I last had to do a full login.
From: randolph@cognito.ebay.Sun.COM (Randolph Fritz)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Wellsprings
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:32:20 GMT
	<MemU=Mq00awJEFPlpW@andrew.cmu.edu>
Distribution: alt
Organization: St. Dismas Infirmary for the Incurably Informed
NNTP-Posting-Host: cognito.ebay.sun.com
In-reply-to: Mark Beirne Lively's message of Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:41:12 -0400

[A very late reply -- my apologies.]

Randolph looks around, a bit non-plussed at the few responses his post
drew.  Then he smiles.  "Lunch included salad.  Hmmm, guess I must be
eating leaves already.  Bear--I wasn't suggesting everyone going back
into the woods; I was suggesting a balance between city and
countryside.  Right now, we're so urban we're going crazy.  During the
less urban times, people dream of the urban empires, which is rather
the inverse of our dreaming of tribalism.

"Michael, in my opinion cities are expressions of culture; they just
aren't the source of it.  In my view, it is a very sad thing that
cities drain the source of culture by subjugating the unsettled lands
and the rural and tribal people.  Any city needs the support of the
hinterlands; the food and water comes from there, and the sewage goes
back there.  I believe the sources of culture are in the hinterlands
as well.  And, just as there is more edible food and potable water in
the cities than the hinterlands, there is more cultural expression in
the cities than the hinterlands.  Historically, however, urbanization
usually reaches a stage where the cities grow without bounds and the
hinterlands become vastly impoverished.  At that time, I believe a
culture is heading for collapse.

"I don't agree that punk is a sign of cultural health.  Punk, it seems
to me, is a response to the alienation of our cities--creative, yes,
but not ultimately something sustainable.  I'm not sure what you mean
by tribalism, Bear.  Please, would you explain?"

__Randolph Fritz  sun!cognito.ebay!randolph || randolph@ebay.sun.com
Newsgroups: alt.callahans