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From: jseboldt@pnet51.orb.mn.org (John Seboldt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Let's talk Performas, Boys and Girls
Date: 3 Oct 92 15:47:15 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:
>In article <1CE00001.eutag3@tbomb.ice.com> time@ice.com (Tim Endres) writes:
>>
>>In article <1992Sep30.164359.16118@cc.umontreal.ca> (comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc), tsirbasc@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Tsirbas Christos) writes:
>>> THE PERFORMA IS A GREAT FAMILY COMPUTER, BUT IT IS NOT THE COMPUTER
>>> FOR THOSE WHO USE THEIR CURRENT MAC FOR MORE ADVANCED FEATURES AND
>>> HEAVY DUTY GRAPHICS OR DESK TOP PUBLISHING.
>>
>>Thank you for shouting the totally obvious.
>>
>Thank you for following up with the totally obvious.

Thank you for BEING totally obvious.

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From: janolov@cdg.chalmers.se (Jan-Olov Lantto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: New Mac Price Cuts
Date: 2 Oct 92 08:33:55 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology

In article <10554@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk> cr@cs.strath.ac.uk (Chris Reid)
writes:
>Does anybody know whether Apple plan to cut prices in the UK as well?
>
>
>Chris
>
I do not know about Apple UK, but Apple Sweden cut its prices last week by
10-35 %.

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From: pascal@CAM.ORG (Pascal Gosselin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: 6megs in LaserWriter NTR ?  ** HOW ** ???
Keywords: NTR LaserWriter
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:14:08 GMT
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada

I seem to have exhausted all of the possibilities of SIMM types and
must conclude that it MIGHT not be possible to upgrade the NTR to
6 megs.

The LaserWriter NTR has a single 72-pin, PC Standard SIMM socket.

Apple claims that 1,048,576 words x 32bit DRAM modules with CAS before
RAS will work.

Testing by a collegue shows that this doesn't work.  Technology Works also
says that other people have tried - and failed - to get a 6meg setup
working.

If how have successfuly upgraded a LaserWriter NTR to 6megs, please
let me know by email where you purchased the SIMM !

Thanks.

-Pascal
 
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From: rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich Holmes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: PB100 external floppy
Date: 1 Oct 92 01:59:02 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University

So what has happened/is happening/will happen with the PB100 external
floppy? I'd been sort of assuming it might disappear soon after the
PB100 itself, but now I hear the MiniDock for the Duos will have a
port for it. Are they still making it?

And does anyone know of a source for them in the Bay area? I allegedly
have one on order from Whole Earth Access; no luck at Computer Attic,
Computer Selection, or the place on the corner of California and El
Camino in Palo Alto.

--
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 documentary evidence of this -- suggests that one of his legs was
 shorter than the other." -- Prof. Peter Schickele
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From: tsirbasc@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Tsirbas Christos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Let's talk Performas, Boys and Girls
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:57:48 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Edward,

I find myself repeating things again and again.  The Performa 600 does not
have a cache slot it has an accelerator slot.  The accelerator slot has the
same socket as the accelerator slot on the  IIci, but the difference is that thedata lines have been modified in such a way as it cannot accept input from
stand-alone RAM chips but only from a card with a path leading to a CPU chip.

Hence accelerator rather than cache-slot.

As for the two monitor thingie.  I could hook up a page monitor to my IIsi and
another monitor through with a PDS board attatched to a dual-slot adapter with
a cache card.                                      

Chris Tsirbas
tsirbasc@brise.ere.umontreal.ca
From: nick+@pitt.edu (Nick C De Mello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: GV Powerort Gold in Duo?
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:46:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

>>   Any guesses on whether you can put a global village powerport gold
>>modem in a Duo 230 or 210?
>
>    The general concensus is that Powerbooks would be useless without an
>internal modem slot. I can't see Apple not including this in the next
>generation dockable powerbooks.
>

   No argument, but with the Duo's being half the weight of the 140/170
and mac making it's own 9600 baud, I was wondering if the existing 
GV Gold would still fit in the 210/230.                           
   Ie they will have a modem, but can you use a GV?    

                                -- Nick



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Apple  12" Mon. problems
From: nets17@gacvx1.gac.edu (Sten Severson)
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:39:03 -0600
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Distribution: world
Organization: GAC

My Apple 12"  Monitor is having some trouble. First off it has gotten
twisted somehow so that the screen is not square with the case, and the
screen will expand in size if the screen gets brighter.  These aren't major
problems, but I don't want it to get any worse.  I'm using the monitor with
a mac LC built-in 8-bit video.  The whole system has been moved twice 300
miles by car, so that could account for something. If you've got any ideas
I'd really like to hear from you, please e-mail me at 
                   nets17@gacvx1.gac.edu

Thanks in advance,   Sten Severson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: sorensen@athena.mit.edu (Alma G. Sorensen)
Subject: scanners, microtek 600xle?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:58:56 GMT

Just read the InfoWorld review of scanners. Based on this, our dept.
has just about decided to go ahead and buy the Microtek 600Z.
While the HP is a faster scanner, it doesn't come with Photoshop, 
and we'd like to have one-program-does-all service for some of our
computerphobic folk.

Now, though, I see in some adds that Microtek has a newer scanner,
the 600xle or something like that, which comes w/ photoshop 2.0 for $1199
or with some kind of photoshop lite for $899 (Bottom Line Dist.).

Has anyone any experience with this newer scanner, or managed to see
any reviews? MacWeek stopped shipping to me a few months back :-( so I'm
out of the loop on some of this stuff.  Also, what's missing from the
lite version of photoshop? And has anyone really scanned directly from 
inside Photoshop like the claims say?

Thanks,

Greg Sorensen
sorensen@athena.mit.edu
From: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon Wtte)
Subject: Re: Dealer's Costs for New Macs
Originator: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
	<1992Sep27.151200.5214@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 16:31:29 GMT

> ostroff@Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff) writes:

   Do you *really* think these prices are accurate?  Wow, if they are then
   they'd better sell LOTS of performas!  Looks like the prices you quote
   are about 20% less than what I saw them selling for at Office Max.  Seems
   like it would be hard for a dealer to cover their own expenses and make
   any kind of profit on a 20% margin....

Well, I see you're not at a technical college, which excuses
the lapsus; if the prices are 20% lower than the sale prices,
the sale prices are 25% higher than the lower prices.

And what's wrong with those margins? We're talking mass-market,
people who DON'T SUPPORT the stuff as a more expensive, office-
type outfit would. However, I have heard mumblings about Apple
providing a support line, and including the price of that in
the price to re-seller.

-- 
Jon W{tte, h+@nada.kth.se, Sweden, Phone +46-8-107069

"From now on, I think I'll re-label the EQ on the
 desk as Fizz and Wobble, rather than HF and LF."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Anyone get a Apple Scanner working under 7.x?
From: hammett@sbsu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Tim Hammett)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:35:15 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.
Keywords: System 7, scanner, drivers.

wirehead@cheshire.oxy.edu (David J. Harr) writes:
>couple of days ago, and I can't seem to get it to work. The
>driver seems to load all right and the software recognizes the
>scanner is on the SCSI bus, but when I try to do a scan, a
>dialog pops up with a message saying "Scan in progress.", and
>then almost immediately another dialog pops up saying "An error
>has occurred: A bad parameter or command has occurred." If anyone
>has any hints, it would be nice. I realize that I can upgrade
>to the new software, but if I can avoid that option, it would
>be nice.

Try switching into 24-bit addressing mode (via the memory control panel).

--
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From: apdoo@alice.att.com (Alan Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Opinions wanted: Mobius accelerator/display, Magic Railgun
Keywords: Mac SE, experiences good or bad
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:33:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.23761
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ


I am interested in opinions on the relative merits
of the Magic Railgun accelerator/display for the Mac SE
versus the Mobius accelerator/display. According to the
Magic ad, it is a better product for less money, but I
was wondering if anyone has experience, good or bad,
with either product, that they are willing to relate.
Mail responses to me, if there
is enough interest I will summarize and post.

Alan Weiss
apdoo@research.att.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: schwarz@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: old rumor on HP Deskjet color printer
Reply-To: schwarz@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 04:29:33 GMT

There was mention in the Mac the Knife column of MacWeek
a while back that there would be a newer version of the
Deskjet C with CMYK instead of just CMY. Has anyone heard more on
this? I believe that an October release date was envisioned...

Thanks,
Gerry Schwarz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart)
Subject: RE: need to upgrade a 512e (kinda like a mac plus)- can I?
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:44:11 GMT

I have a Dove 1Mb w/SCSI adaptor kit, selling for $70.  Drop me a call or note 
here if interested.  313-695-1347.  It'll work with that 128 nicely.




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From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple's Product Lineup
Date: 2 Oct 1992 19:42:53 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

In article <1992Sep30.142820.14410@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE>
menes@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Rainer Menes) writes:
>Does someone know more about the 50 Mhz 68040 Cyclones. Are there any upgrade
path for
>the Quadra 700 or so.

I doubt it. I think it's going to be in the new box used by the IIvx/IIvi.

David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard
From: jeff_d@npri6.npri.com (Jeff Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Need source for ribbon 50-pin Centronics (SCSI) connectors
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:25:33 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA

dlb5404@tamsun.tamu.edu (Daryl Biberdorf) writes:

>After looking through three catalogs (including Digi-Key's),
>I have been unable to find a source for the 50-pin Centronics
>connectors (female needed now, both would be nice) needed for
>external SCSI devices on the Mac.  The crimp-on style used
>with ribbon cable is very much preferred.

>If anyone has a source for this part, I'd appreciate hearing about it.

I'm not clear on what kind of cable you need.  Do you mean:

   50 pin idc -------------- 50-pin centronics f ------ 50-pin centronics f
  (hooks to scsi device)     (hooks to cable that goes to mac scsi port)

If so, I'm also looking for a mail-order place for these.  A local electronics
hardware place has them in arlington, virginia, but I need a second source.

Jeff
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: menes@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Rainer Menes)
Subject: Re: Apple's Product Lineup
Keywords: 50 Mhz 68040 Cyclones
Originator: menes@suniams2.statistik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:28:20 GMT


Does someone know more about the 50 Mhz 68040 Cyclones. Are there any upgrade path for
the Quadra 700 or so.

Thank for your help,

Rainer

menes@statistik.tu-muenchen.de
 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: kanefsky@halcyon.com (Steve Kanefsky)
Subject: Re: IIsi accelerators
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:36:23 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.133559.29572@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mjulian@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Julian) writes:
>I have a IIsi with 9mb RAM that I am considering adding an accelerator card of 
>some type to.  It already has the Nu-Bus adapter card (w/FPU) installed and my 
>question is: are there any accelerator cards available for the IIsi that can be
>used on the Nu-Bus slot?  Also, if any such cards are available (I've noticed
>the Daystar cards are all PDS) will the FPU on the adapter card still be used
>in conjunction with the accelerator, or will I need to buy another FPU as part
>of the accelerator?

You don't really want to put an accelerator on a NuBus card, since that
puts a very slow link between the motherboard and the accelerator card.
The accelerator card thus needs its own RAM and there are a lot of
tricks that have to be played which cause it to be incompatable with
some applications.  It's also essentially impossible to use an FPU
across NuBus.  You'd be much better off getting a PDS accelerator which
has a direct link to the motherboard, doesn't have to play all those
tricks, doesn't require its own memory, etc.  Try and sell the NuBus
adaptor card and use the money to add an FPU to a PDS accelerator card.

--
Steve Kanefsky
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: skok@itwds1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Holger Skok)
Subject: Re: Ci vs proforma 600 vs just wait till Vii(?)
Organization: Inst. f. Thermodynamik u. Waermetechnik (ITW), U. of Stuttgart, FRG
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:28:26 GMT

In article <91537@netnews.upenn.edu> farber@linc.cis.upenn.edu (David Farber) writes:
>
>
>I would like to get a color mac to suppliment my 170 and so the question, 
>Is the Ci a good buy now, or should one get a 600 or wait. What are
>the pro and cons etc.
>
>Advice will be summerized and appreciated.
>
>Reply to farber@cis.upenn.edu
>
But maybe have your department secretary do the typing ;-)

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From: wrowe@reed.edu (Wayne S. Rowe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: LaserPrinter Madness
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:02:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Sep29.020235.131
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon

Hello,

I am fortunate enough to finally be able to consider purchasing a LaserPrinter
(that will eventually run with a IIvx if all goes well) but am not sure whether
to choose the LS model or the twice as expensive NT model. My only real
complaint about the LS is that it does not seem to be able to print the Palatino
Font without creating a bit-map, but on the other hand I'm none to keen to
double my costs for the NT either. Does anyone know if Apple is planning on
releasing an updated/upgraded version of their Laser Printer LS any time soon?
And also if there is any way of "adding" Palatino the the current model LS?
Thanks!

wrowe@reed.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: tony@scotty.dccs.upenn.edu (Anthony Olejnik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Q: where can I get `MacTest`?
Date: 2 Oct 92 01:22:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Subject line says it all.
I`ve seen several references to it.
I'm assuming it a complete hardware diagnostic tool.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

--tony
From: lagana@smeagol.sps.mot.com (Antonio A. Lagana)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Advice sought on expanding the memory of a Q700
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:44:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: oakhill.1992Sep29.154427.8136
Reply-To: lagana@smeagol.sps.mot.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Motorola Semiconductor

Are there any things to watch out for when installing SIMMS (both DRAM and VRAM) into
a Q700?  What needs to be removed (the disk drive(s) assembly obviously must come out)?
Are there any hidden screws or attachments that need to be removed?  Any special 
disassembly/assembly order that must be followed, etc.? Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. 


Thanks in advance,

Antonio A. Lagana					lagana@smeagol.sps.mot.com
Motorola Semiconductor
Austin, Texas

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From: ouellettemj@merrimack.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: QUADRA 700 FOR SALE
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:12:17 GMT
Organization: Merrimack College, No. Andover, MA, USA

I would like to sell my Quadra 700 system 
It consists of the following:

Quadra 700 CPU
80 meg Hard Drive
4 meg RAM (8 available if needed)
Apple 13" High-Res Monitor
Apple Extened Keyboard
Apple Mouse
System 7.0 software with updator

All original Cables and Accessories including original box
Equipment is in top condition
Not even a year old and still under waranty

It will include a utility to ensure compatability with 
all software programs also included is several megs of shareware
and some great games

I'm asking $4,800 or best offer and I'll wait 
until December to sell.  Will ship COD if needed

If you are interested please contact me

MATT OUELLETTE

phone: (508) 470-0847

 mail: 30 Fox Hill Rd.
       Andover, MA 01810

  VAX: MX%"OUELLETTEMJ@MERRIMACK.EDU"

OR JUST POST RETURN ON NEWS
From: dcm@teal.csn.org (David C. Menges)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Envisio powerbook display adaptor - any good?
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:58:20 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

In article <walkerl-041092213321@3.7.192.225> walkerl@med.ge.com (Larry Walker) writes:
>In article <leonard.718217198@genesee>, leonard@cs.UAlberta.CA (Leonard
>Harris) wrote:
>> 
>> Are these cards any good - on a pb100 - will they drive a color display

We tried to buy a new PowerBook 145 + Envisio video out board, but no 
Authorized Apple Dealer could install it correctly, and they damaged 
the PowerBook and the Envisio in the process.  After weeks of frustration,
we returned everything.
From: jwf@clueless-wonder.Prime.COM (James Fay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: HELP Printer problem
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:36:49 GMT
Organization: Prime Computer R&D

I am trying to connect a PLP Laser printer to the SCSI connector on an
LC II. I did everything according to the prcedures described in the
manuals for the Mac and the printer itself. The problem is, the printer
does not work if the highest quality printing is selected. The printer
works fine if I drop down to medium quality printing. When the failure
occurs, an error message numbered in the negative four thousand range
is displayed, but the printer service people do not have this error
message in their books so they don't know how to help me. Has anyone
ever seen this before...if so how did you fix it?
From: jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry Scoggins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: NEC MacSync problem...
Date: 30 Sep 92 06:22:23 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

resch@TEETOT.ACUSD.EDU (Keith Resch) sayz:
>I seem to be having a problem with my 2 year old NEC MacSync HC monitor.
>I have it hooked up to a Mac II with an Apple 4%8 video card.  I seem to
>be noticing more and more that my black in the displayable part of the
>screen seems to be turning a more brownish color every day.  I've always

I suspect your monitor is failing if it is getting more brownish every day.
Possible a high voltage problem or vapor leak.

>had After Dark on a screensaver that does infact save you screen opposed
>to those that just look cool.  I have been using MaxApple Zoom for about

Programs such as After Dark do help prevent burn in, but it is much less
of a problem then people might think.  Yes, it does occur, but _usually_ not
noticeable on color monitors.  However, it can be very noticeable on old
B/W Macs such as 512K's or Pluses.  i.e. Machines with lots and lots of hours.

>1/2 year and I notice now that the "black" on the screen gets more brown
>when it's on.  i.e. the screen "black" is darker when MAZ is off?  what

Actually, screens don't get more "black" when they are turned on.  It is
an optical illusion caused by the contrast of the white parts.

>could be the problem?  I've tried adjusting the contrast and the
>brightness and that seems to have no effect on getting it darker even
>when both are turned all the way down.  Has anyone else expreienced
>anything like this?  I do notice that in the desktop when I open a large
>window (a lot of white showing) the brightness of the screen seems to go
>down. is that normal?

Well, yes and no.  It will go down a little, but it shouldn't be noticeable.
 It might be a sign of poor high voltage regulation.  Try this test to see 
how your regulation is.  Granted it isn't exact, but it might suggest a 
problem.  Set your background to flat black.  Then open a window with no 
icons that has been set to full screen size.  When you open and close the 
window, watch the outer edges of the screen and see if the outer raster 
image shrinks and expandes in size.  All monitors move a little, but it 
shouldn't move more than say 1/4".

>thanks
>_____________________________________________________________
>Keith Resch  -  University of San Diego School of Engineering
>		(resch@teetot.acusd.edu)

Hope this helps.

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