From: michael@neuron6.jpl.nasa.gov (Michael Rivero)
Subject: Re: Feminist=Equality? Errrr.... Nope.
Organization: JPL Pasadena CA
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 18:46:46 GMT

In article <18111@umd5.umd.edu> jp776@macbeth.umd.edu (sregdoR .S treboR) writes:
>In article <C1Bpxw.8v8@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> bgarfink@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (beth diane garfinkel) writes:
>>In <jay.36.727813864@UUSERV.CC.UTAH.EDU> jay@UUSERV.CC.UTAH.EDU (Jay Deuel) writes:
>>
>>>>Damn right we're not so het up about false accusations; we want to be
>>>>listened to when we make TRUE accusations!!!!!!! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!
>
>
>	You are listened to.  there is a difference between *listening to*
>	and blindly believing whatever a woman claims.  
>

  True. Otherwise all those poor citizens of Salam, Massachussets wouldn't have
been hung!

>
>>>Funny how a WOMAN isn't too concerned about false accusations, which 
>>>means an innocent MAN is procecuted!  This seems like the wrong approach to 
>>>getting people to listen to true accusations.  (sounds like a witch hunt)
>
>
>	The fact is, women don't much care about mens feelings.  
>	It's nothing new, and it wouldn't even be a problem if they 
>	didn't spend so much time whining about how men do the same.

  This is encouraged. Check out the June 3, 1991 issue of TIME magazine and
their cover story on rape. Feminists interviewed claimed that rape charges
were perfectly valid to use even in non sexual siituations. One woman who
was inteviewed about a false rape charge said,"Well, maybe he didn't rape
her, but he clearly must have violated her in SOME way"!  This was followed
by the now infamous Catherine Comins quote that a false rape charge was
good for a man and that women should NOT be concerned about the pain it
caused.
>
>
>>Look.  I don't want innocent men to be prosecuted for rape. I consider
>>that to be a given; perhaps I'm overly idealistic.  However, from my
>>personal experience, the laws, their enforcement, and the prevailing
>>attitudes of society towards women's testimony are all slanted the other
>>way, so as to let men guilty of rape be acquitted and go unpunished.  I
>
  Your experience is not large enough to make such conclusions about
the society as a whole. According to the FBI Supplimentary Crime Statistics,
rape is now the single most falsely reported crime in America, with a false
report rate three times higher than for any other crime. The San Diego Grand
Jury found an epidemic of false sexual charges against the men under the
jurisdiction of their Child Protective Services, whose ardently feminist
officers felt fully justified in using their authority as an instrument of
political repression against men. Finally, studies conducted here in Los
Angeles show a sexual charge will occur in 30% of all divorce cases, usually
where there is a large amount of money at stake. A blind survey conducted of
the complainents and their attorneys revealed that 80% of these charges
were fabrications, made solely for money and to deny visitiation
to the father. For the last 5 years of the feminist anti-male witchhunt,
that would produce almost 2 1/2 million men in the greater Los Angeles area 
who KNOW (as do I) that they were willingly punished by the courts for crimes
they never committed. These men also know that the material rewards of 
their long built careers have been extorted from them through lies, deceit,
and extortion which remains not only unpunished, but tacitly condoned by
the feminist media.

  That 2.5 million men IS a large enough statistical universe to draw
conclusions about our society.

>
>	Sorry, if the jury concluded that they were innocent of the
>	charges and ruled so, they were probably not guilty.  Who 
>	are you to see otherwise?
>
>
>>might add that some of those laws are stricter than you might think.  In
>>Massachusetts, for example, in order for it to be rape, the plaintiff
>>has to have made any gesture of resistance at all; saying "no" once or
>>struggling for one second is enough to qualify. Think about that.  How
>>many of you out there are guilty of rape in Massachusetts?
>

  How many of you are NOT guilty of rape under any and all jurisdictions?
Maybe it's time to stand up and say we are NOT criminals and to hell
with feminists who say otherwise.




-- 
Michael Rivero michael%neuron6@jpl-mil.jpl.nasa.gov
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