From: kazial@acsu.buffalo.edu (craig m kazial)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: here's a good one for you...
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:38:54 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci


  Anyone got a good idea on this one:

	I called Babbages to see if they had Warsong-
		they don't carry it anymore. 
		Chain 'recalled' it or something like that.

	One store thought sales (lack thereof) was the reason.
	Another said believed problems/defects with the game (?!?)

	Anyways, I don't buy the latter - someone know anything
	about that? Another salesman playing smarty w/o backup
	is what I think that must be.. or I hope, because-

	I planned to buy this game. I enjoyed it (yes it does lack
	in a few areas but overall it's a -decent- stratedgy game
	where you can get some good usage out of) when I rented it.

	Is this a bad game, have I not seen enough? One thing I did not enjoy
	is the fact you have no idea what the items you have do for you
	(someone know/is there a way?)

	Another nasty item (I mean nasty) is that the move option (automtic
	troop moval) sucks - certainly do not always go most efficiently-
	sometimes not even moving! I can think of a few *EASY* and 
	*EFFICIENT* ways to improve that off the top of my head -
	yes I graduated BS in CS, but come on, we're talking some
	easy obvious stategems here, especially since they already 
	caculate all of your possible moves for you.. sigh - I mean some
	guys were just standing behind a rock if unsupervised!
	And jumping in the water when you have a bridge.. (scene 7?)

	ALSO, another nasty (I mean nasty!) example of bad programming
	is when you're escorting the clerics and the citizens (early on,
	scene 2 I think). I had a nice channel carved out for Mika and
	her citizens, starting moving that way - *BOOM* she's
	charging like the idiot that she can be *WITH* her
	'sure, i'll jump off the bridge' citizens towards the enemy, where
	I was just leaving the enemy in the dust. It was sort of
	amusing the idiots screaming when they basically were charging on
	the swords.. but irritating more so. Citizens were initiating
	the attack against armed soldiers! Ya right...
	And not in defense of Mika, out in the blue, leaving my soldier
	column...

	(another 'neato' is when garett's bodyguard dies, (died in scene
	5 I think) -forget his name-, he still gets shot with arrows at the
	end of that particular scene (brough back to life to be shot? 
	har har har...) unless when these 'generals' reach 0 its not
	that they're dead but just out of action?? Ah well, 

	STILL, its innovative stratedgy game-wise (no flames please),
	nice different size effects, moves slow, but a good game all in all
	20 scenes will take a person a fair amount of time...

	People who have the game- is it worth $30? From what I saw it seems
	it is.. any more bad inconsistancies/screwups? Just experiment with
	the items? (I played to scene 8, just gave great sword- garrett,
	Cross to Mika, Shield to Crocodile Knight...) Any cheats?
	(doesnt need it, but might be something more to play with)
	Wish it had more possible set-ups/configs.. level select would be
	nice for one...

	Anyone seen Warsong II? That on CD would be *cool*...
	
	Has anyone ever been able to stick around and *win* the first scene
	by clearing out the badies? I imagine it cant be done,
	that group on the right side seems to be -really- strong...

	And anyone who falls in the first scene it would seem is usable 
	later - basically anyone falling under *your* control gone
	for good, but NPC can come back (even if was ally)?

	any other tips/tidbits appreciated,
	the price seems right despite the annoyances.

		Craig
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