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From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Boston University Hong Kong Student meeting
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:12:02 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

kkchan@acs.bu.edu (ka kit) writes:


>  I am a new student in BU, and I would like to contact or get to know
>some Hong Kong Student in BU...
>  if u are one of the Hong Kong student in BU, please let me know how
>to get in touch with all of u and when the HK student meeting will be 
>hold in BU... thank you.

>   my email address is : kkchan@acs.bu.edu
>   
>   I am looking forward to hear from all of u!!

>9/14/92

I don't mean to flame... but isn't it a little pathetic? Think about it...
posting on an international network to introduce yourself to your own
classmates?  >:)

Again, I don't mean to flame.  I am just curious, is it really that hard
to find Hong Kong students at BU?  Even so, I doubt most of the BU 
students from Hong Kong are currently subscribers to schk.  My advice
to you is to get out more and to join some clubs.  You will get to meet
more people, don't worry.

Good luck and have a nice school year.

Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: siu@noble.ecn.purdue.edu (Wai Tak Siu)
Subject: Re: Weighing units (pounds, kilogram, etc... )
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 05:53:33 GMT

In article <4447@equinox.unr.edu> chiu@pyramid.unr.edu (Edward S.N.Chiu) writes:
>
>>The funny thing was that a guy from PRC holds it very strong that 
>>there are only 10 "nurn"s for 1 catty in PRC. And 1 catty is 
>>exactly 0.5 kilo-gram. 
>>
>>Is this a real difference across the boundary?
>>
>
>They are talking about any form of "catty". It is true that people from
>mainland are using 10 teals=1 catty. The catty, (has to be verified),
>should be a kilogram to them. In order words, they are using metric
>units but just different terminologies.

Right. That "catty" is called "city catty" (sorry for the weird translation),
pronounced as "si gun" in Cantonese. It is actually the kilogram.

Donald
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: oyang@cs.monash.edu.au (Kai Shing O'Yang)
Subject: Re: Student Beauty Pageant in Melbourne
Organization: Computer Science, Monash University, Australia
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 02:44:14 GMT

eln235s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr H Hui) writes:

>>	The top prize is a return ticket to Hong Kong from Melbourne. The
>>most interesting thing is that they've got Swire Group as their sponsor.
>>I just wonder if Swire endorses these activities?
>BTW, do they ask the restaurant in China town for sponsorship? 

Yes, they've asked Shark Finn Inn and the boss of that restaurant will be
one of the judges.

As for dates, ask your Melbourne Uni friends.
--
- Kai S O'Yang, Dept of Comp Sci, Monash Uni, Clayton VIC 3168, Australia  
- AARNET: oyang@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au         - Voice : +(61) 3 565 5778
					       - FAX :   +(61) 3 565 5146
'If one believes everything from the book, rather have no book.'
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: kkc@loki.cs.wayne.edu (Kwok K. Chan)
Subject: Re: money transfer US->HK
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit, MI
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:22:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.190636.9176@oracle.us.oracle.com> glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo) writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.235541.6516@nsc.nsc.com> volker@nsc.nsc.com (Volker Soffel) writes:
>>The title basically tells it all, what is the best way to transfer
>>money from the US to HK? Could you simply send a personal check that
>>the recipient could cash (or put on his account) at a HK bank?
>>Or could you send a cashier's check (would a HK bank cash a cashier's
>>check in US$?).
>>I know that I could wire transfer the money, but that's probably the
>>most expensive way. I would appreciate any tips from people who have
>>done transfers in the past others than wire transfers.
>>Thanks for your help.
>
>Yes, if the other person has an account in US currency.  Then 
>he/she can just deposit the check drawn from a US bank.  It takes
>some time to cash the check though.

Just want to point out that the other person in HK does not necessary
have to have a US currency account (a.k.a green book) to deposit the
check.  Of course, in this case, the bank has to do some foreign
exchange before debit to that person's account.

I had sent money back to HK in several occasions and in different ways. 
Personal check is fine. The bank in HK will charge a service fee and it
usually takes about one month to clear the check.  The fee is kinda
based on the amount of the check but no much.  I think the fee is about
HK$100 ( it's been a while ago so please correct me if I am wrong in
this).  For wire transfer, it is better to find a bank which has a
direct connection with a US bank in HK. Not only it will speed up the
process, it will also costs you less service fee usually.  If I remember
it correctly, my bank charged me US$25 about 1 1/2 years ago.  It only
took about 2-3 days before the other person in HK could withdraw the
money from his own HK bank account.  The cashier check will not much
faster than a regular personal check -- my experience told me that.

Hope the information will help.

-- 
***************************************************************************
		It is better to wear out than to rust out
email: kkc@cs.wayne.edu
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From: dchan@cisco.com (Derek Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: American society
Keywords: names
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:35:05 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems, Incorporated

In article <1992Sep04.123526.8421@jho.com>, john@jho.com (John Ho) writes:
|> dchan@cisco.com (Derek Chan) writes:
|> 
|> >>legit act between a man and his wife!  Ridiculous!  You also have
|> >>all theese minority groups who wants to make $40,000/yr watching 
|> >            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> >>football and be a couch "potatoe"s (a potato with a 'e' - US education...)
|> > ^^^^^^^^^
|> 
|> >Just curious. What is this regarding to?
|> This is a long story regarding the welfare system of US and how one
|> group of people work harder and get less and how the other group
|> work less and get a lot more.  Long story.

This is it! This is what I want to talk about.

The other day my wife was in a chinese jewlery store and the owner of the store
was talking to her daughter "...it's getting late. Go do the grocery. I have
the food stamps here." I could see their mercedes right at the front door but
these people were still taking advantage of the food stamps. How do they do
it? My theory is that they have their business registered under son/daughter's
name and they are on welfare. Don't you hate to see your tax money going this
way. I don't mind paying for seniors or handicaped but absolutely not for 
people who are in BMW or mercedes .There are certainly holes in the system. 

I know a chinese family with 2 adults and 3 kids and they  are on welfare. They
are perfectly healthy adults capable of doing any kind of productive work but
they are sitting there getting welfare money.  I think it may be true that
with their educational background it won't make much difference if you are on
welfare or being employed working hard. My theory is that the welfare is paying
too much for these people so that they are not motivated to work. 

What about the tax? The more you make the higher tax bracket you have. Will
you be motivated to make more money? The tax and welfare systems in US is
just not encouraging people to be productive. I wonder if this is the cause
of the recession.

Does anyone have other example to bring up?

I didn't do any researh so I don't know how to  qualify for welfare and how
much they pay you. Can someone give me some figures? What about unemployment
benefits?

If you know the welfare system in Hong Kong. Can you compare the systems 
between Hong Kong and U.S?


Derek
From: c60b-3gj@web-3d.berkeley.edu (Leo Wong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: How to tell if he/she is from HK?
Date: 10 Sep 1992 20:05:22 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: web-3d.berkeley.edu
Keywords: style

Of course, personal attires are highly personal: long hair, guys with earing,
or having mustache.  Personally I have no problems with anyone wearing 
earing, nose ring, or having rings attached to any part of one's anatomy.

However, there are several things that we should be aware of.  Following are
some personal suggestions:

-As Chinese, our hair texture is very different from Occidentals.  Having 
 long hair requires special attention.  Guys trying to get a long hair should
 trim their hair appropriately on a regular basis.  Some people just sit on 
 their butt letting their hair grow.  They usually end up looking like lost
 dogs with lots of fleas.

-According to my American friends,  guys wearing earings on their
 right ear means that they are GAY.  Don't send out the wrong signal! 

-Asians are usually less hairy.  So if you want to grow a mustache.  Please
 check that you HAVE enough hair on your upper lips.  Otherwise, instead of 
 looking like "Lam" (Lam, Chi-cheung), one would winds up looking like a 
 less-than-cute Ding-Dong or a Qing Dynasty gov't official.

Be cool.

Leo Wong
c60b-3gj@web.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: rhc52134@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Richard)
Subject: Re: Student Beauty Pageant in Melbourne
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:00:05 GMT

oyang@cs.monash.edu.au (Kai Shing O'Yang) writes:


>	Anyone interested?
>	
>Kai
>--

	Please send me the photos of the contestants and I'll tell you
if I'm interested.


Richard
From: leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Where to buy US textbooks in Hong Kong
Date: 10 Sep 92 05:04:46 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson


  [Sorry first to other netters. This piece of news is for the poster 
  of news <WYA00.92Sep9152124@extern.vlss.amdahl.com> only. I am 
  looking for him for long but emails to him have been bounced back. 
  No flames please. Thanks.]



  Au, please send me email to tell me your correct email address. The 
  one you gave me sucks. Thanks.

  -- leo. <leoso@cs.arizona.edu>
From: chiu@pyramid.unr.edu (Edward S.N.Chiu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: San Francisco
Date: 15 Sep 92 07:52:15 GMT
Reply-To: chiu@pyramid.unr.edu (Edward S.N.Chiu)
Organization: Department of Computer Science - University of Nevada, Reno

In article <9209101742.AA17615@pserv.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM> bonl2@cfsmo.honeywell.com (Boniface Lee--IO) writes:
>
>
>P.S.  How long is the drive from SF to Reno or Lake Tahoe?
>

It takes 4 hours to drive from SF to Reno. (Use I-80)
It takes 30-45mins to drive from Reno to Lake Tahoe. (Use US395+MtRoseHwy)
It takes about 4-5 hrs to drive from SF to Lake Tahoe.(Use I-80,US 50)


 +-----+ * Edward Sung-Ngan Chiu        Internet: chiu@cs.unr.edu *  Alumnus of
 |     | * Dept of Computer Science   BITNET: chiu@equinox.bitnet * T.K.R.G.S.S.
  \    | * University of Nevada, Reno             Office: LMR 280 *  Hong Kong
    \|~' * Reno, Nevada 89557, USA   Office Phone: (702) 784-1757 *   1983-89
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: godwin@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Godwin Yung)
Subject: Re: About my earlier posting ...
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Services.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 08:12:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.035424.11965@csus.edu> jchow@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Johnny Chow) writes:
>There are many netters here mailed me in the passed week who con-
>cerned about my last posting of looking for a tricky C program of
>fingering. Since I personally am still waiting for  a  particular
>gentlement  for  help  on this net so  for now I cannot give  the
>rest of your further information. Sorry.
>
>

Step1: Create the .plan file as a named pipe. Use command 'mknod' to do so.
       i.e. type 'mknod .plan p'. man mknod for more info.
       Note: NOT every finger daemon support .plan as a named pipe.
             Ask your site admin. for more info.

Step2: Compile the following program.

Step3: Run the program in background. Use the '&'

Step4: That's it. If someone finger you, you will receive an email which
       showing you who had fingered you. You can change not to send mail
       to yourself. That's up to you.

------------------------------------begin----------------------------------
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/file.h>
#include <sys/uio.h>
#include <stdio.h>

main()
{ int fd;
  fd_set writefds;
  int i=1;


  while (1) {
  fd=open(".plan",O_WRONLY);
  if (fd!=1) if (dup2(fd,1)== (-1)) fprintf(stderr,"Error on dup\n");

    printf("\nHello! You are the %dth person to finger me on ",i);
    fflush(stdout);
    system("hostname");
    printf("The current date is ");
    fflush(stdout);
    system("date");

/* Send me mail indicating the request */
    system("(ps -agux; netstat) | grep finger | mail godwin");
/*                                                   ^^^^^^  */
/* change your login here ---------------------------||||||  */

    printf("*****************************************************\n");
    fflush(stdout);
    i++;
  close(fd);close(1);sleep(3);
  }
    
}
	     
----------------------------------------END------------------------------

 
-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Godwin Yung.
Department of Computer Science.  
University of Toronto                     Internet: godwin@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo)
Subject: Re: Answer to Q regarding to "One Joke A Day"
Organization: IBM Australia/ACCI
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 03:49:12 GMT

In article <6130101@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan) writes:
>>soc.culture.hongkong / glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo) /  7:16 pm  Sep  3, 1992 /
>>In article <6112@transfer.stratus.com> cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com writes:
>
>>>The worst thing is that they bug you to go shopping with them.  
>>>And the worse thing, worse than the worst thing, is that they 
>>>ask you to hold their purse in front of the ladies fitting room 
>>>and so happen that that is right next to the lingere department.  
>>>You turn around and see another five guys are holding their purses 
>>>staring at the ceiling.  
>
>>I am very very satisfied with mine and she never drag me to
>>shop with her.  She doesn't like to spend money at all.
		      ^^^^^^^^****^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

			Incredible!!!!!	

>>Occassionally, I help her to carry her bag.
>>----------
>
>Has she has a sister behaves like her unmarried? I think a lot of netter
>here will be very insterested. :-) You know, good wife is very difficult

	How come gals upthere(in America perhaps) are so *NICE*!!?? Wow!
	
	Check this one out:

	Q: What's a boyfriend for? (If asked in Australia!)
	A: Feeding my doggies!

	"Another Aussie way of life"! Miserable, guys!!
	So guys, treat your gal friends reasonably nice, will you?
	They ain't bad actually - believe me!
 
 
---Cheers!
	Bill

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: jchow@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Johnny Chow)
Subject: About my earlier posting ...
Originator: jchow@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 03:54:24 GMT

There are many netters here mailed me in the passed week who con-
cerned about my last posting of looking for a tricky C program of
fingering. Since I personally am still waiting for  a  particular
gentlement  for  help  on this net so  for now I cannot give  the
rest of your further information. Sorry.
From: jt2o+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Teng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Priscilla Chan
Date: 13 Sep 92 15:09:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.Qegwd5O00WB9EJ1q5g
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Pardon my ignorance, but who is Priscilla Chan?  Is she a singer or an
actress, or both?

Thanks in advance.
John
From: adam@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Adam Rosham)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: archery equip
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:13:07 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne, Australia

Hiya,
I was wondering if anyone in Hong Kong could tell me if
there are any shops that sell archery gear there. I am coming to HK
in a few weeks and would like to purchase some stuff.

Cheers,

Adam Rosham - adam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au="Oh Pointy Birds, Oh Pointy Pointy
Melbourne University, Melbourne Australia. = Anoint My Head, Anointy Nointy."
ph: (03) 853-9720                          = Steve Martin (T.M.W.T.B's)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: yat@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Yat Man Greg LIN)
Subject: To Mr. Moon
Summary: Mr. Moon
Keywords: Moon, Mid-Autumn Festival
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:21:54 GMT

                *****
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           *             * ======                -----------------
	   *       =======================      ---------------------
	   *  ===================---------------------------------------
	     *==============---------------------------------------------
	      ================-------------------------------------
		   =========------------------------------------
		       ====             -------------------------
					      -----------------
Hello Mr. Moon!
Had a great time up there?
Where have you been all night long?
I've been waiting for you to show up all through the night.
We've got moon cake, laterns, candles.....everything ready, but where are you?
Don't you like us people in Melbourne?

See you next year!
I'll wait for you.

:)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: honson@orion.yorku.ca (Honson Kan)
Subject: Re: Priscilla Chan
Followup-To: soc.culture.hongkong
Organization: York University - CCS/US
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:51:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.060031.28050@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au>,
mkwan@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Michael C. KWAN) wrote:
> 
> 
> >Gary.Moh@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Gary Moh) writes:
> 
> >are you guys serious about this?? Priscilla Chan is studying in
> >Syracuse University?? that's 45 miles from where I am...
> 
> >Gary
> 
> 	Why bother ????  Leave her alone, guy !
> 
> 						Michael


Go ahead, guys.     She may need to have more friends.

Honson
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: akwy@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Alan Kin Wah YIM)
Subject: Re: Type Casting of different people
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:59:26 GMT

wan@elec.uq.oz.au (Alfred WAN) writes:

>Does anyone notice that Australian flies got slower reflects that the Hong Kong's on , why?

You know, the pace in Australia is much slower than HK, so do the flies. In
addition, Australian flies are in general larger than those in HK. So it's
also a reason for slowing down their reaction time. Even worse, some really
"cute looking" ;-> fat flies are very lazy on using their wings!!

BTW, Australian fruits are also larger than those you can have in HK too.
I remembered one time I bought a real large orange of about 4.5 inches
in diameter! On average, you can easily buy oranges of 3-4 inches in
diameter.

Alan of HKPA.POPSTARS.
|||||||||||||| H O   O A I   ---   Another word for SPECIAL |||||||||||||||
||||||| finger & email address: akwy@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au (Alan Yim) ||||||||
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From: yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: To our comrades in China (Was: Re: I'm very disappointed in Chinese)
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:25:28 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard ISG-SBU-PWD, UK.

>soc.culture.hongkong / claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) /  8:18 am  Sep  4, 1992 /
>In article <9224615.5647@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby) writes:
>>claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:

>>>2.   Let all provinces that wish to become independent or wish to become
>>>     a part of another country (e. g., Inner Mongolia) become independent.
>>>     They might be better or worse off because of the independence, but
>>>     it's their own choice.  Better to let them depart peacefully than to
>>>     let them stick around disgruntled.
>>
>>That won't work.  China (like France) is made up of Provinces, not States.
>>In Australia or USA, there are States under a Federal government, and each
>>State is more or less like a semi-country.  But in China or France, provinces
>>are merely geological sub-divisions, it is not a seperate administrative
>>region, like states.

>Semantics.  Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Finland, Poland, etc., were all
>provinces under imperial Russia.  Does that mean that they couldn't become
>independent?
>>
>>I think the central government should spread out control gradually,
>>and look at the growth and funds of different regions.  For e.g.,
>>HKG and ShenZhen should be more independant as they HAVE the funds,
>>and growth is high... whereas Xian should be more centrally controlled
>>"at the moment", as the growth is low (compared to some parts), and
>>does not have the foreign funds that HKG/ShenZhen have.

>I agree partly.  However, inner provinces, like Gansu and Sichuan (sp), will
>also get some benefits from decentralization.  Trade and commerce won't be
>the only benefits.  Gansu's geographic conditions, like deserts, require
>special attention that might be best met by people who are home grown, who
>know the province well.  (If I am mistaken here, it is an additional point
>that those provinces need people who know them inside out)
>----------

What a great idea, let all provinces independent. So that we can keep our
wealth in HKG, KwangTung etc (south east anyway). And lock those poor people
in their own land in those inner "countries". Really, what a good idea to
solve the problem of "blind flow". In a big country, we share wealth. In 
smaller countries, we watch them dying on TV during dinner time. How many
people suffering while we just cannot help because these national borders
("It is internal affair, we prefer all die than help from outside world",
This is their internal affair, we can't help" blah ....)

sorry, I don't know what I am typing. ^Xs, oh, no, it is not emacs,
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong