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From: dj@godot.co.uk (DJ Walker-Morgan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Running HP clients on a Sun with OpenWin
Date: 21 Jul 92 08:43:08 GMT
Reply-To: dj@godot.co.uk
Organization: MicroMuse - The SPARC dudes


Here's the answer to your problem.... I suspect....

From jww@hpfcbig.SDE.HP.COM (Jim Wichelman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: XNeWS server oddity?
Date: 24 Apr 92 23:37:09 GMT

| I wonder if anybody (maybe even from SUN) could comment on the following problem:
| 
| I am running the xnews server on a SPARCstation 2 under SUNOS 4.1.1 with GX
| board. The xnews server is from the OpenWindows 3.0 distribution from SUN.
| 
| When I try to popup an "hpterm" from a HP Snake, nothing seems top happen, i.e.
| the hpterm never pops up on the xnews screen. 

*****************************************************************************
MOTIF CLIENT STARTUP HANG - OPENWINDOWS 3.0
*****************************************************************************

   This problem has been reported to Sun but has not been fixed at the time.
   The Sun bug id# is 1076332.  Call Sun so and ask them to provide a patch.

   Tools using the HP Motif 1.1 library hang for 15 minutes when they attempt
   to connect to the server supplied with OpenWindows 3.0.  This problem does 
   not occur with the MIT X11R4 server or the OpenWindows 2.0 X11/NeWS server.

   Setting the following resource in the X11/NeWS server will resolve
   this problem:

      <client>*useColorObj: false

   NOTE: This workaround is not supported.  It may cease to prevent the
   problem in the future.



Jim Wichelman
Hewlett-Packard
jww@fc.hp.com



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From: navarro@azur.enet.dec.com (Jean Navarro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: SQL C++ and MOTIF questions
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:06:25 GMT
Reply-To: navarro@azur.enet.dec.com (Jean Navarro)
Organization: vbo.dec.com


	
hi,    

    We have a project which was written on ULTRIX RISC (BSD) and based on
    SQL (Ingres) ,DEC C++  and DEC MOTIF , now we are willing
    to port this software to a SunoS system ,so here come some questions
    to who ever has experience in this domain:
    
    1)which potential problems could be risen from such port ?
    
    2)what are the alternatives available on SunOS to the ingres SQL 
    implementation (price/differences),are they compatible .    
    
    3)Same question for C++ .is C++ available on SunOS ,if yes is it based
     from the ATT version ?,what is the price.
        
    4)Which version of MIT X11 does openwindow supports,and what are the usual
    problems meet when using a motif application and display its on a Sun
    system.      
    
    Thanks
    
    Jean NAVARRO                   navarro@azur.enet.dec.com
    Digital 
    Valbonne
    France
From: N.Davis@lut.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Planning to upgrade to Solaris 2?  (re: vi)
Date: 22 Jul 92 11:38:47 GMT
Reply-To: N.Davis@lut.ac.uk (Neil Davis)
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.

So Sun will no longer be supplying a bundled C compiler. In some respects
I can understand the logic, though I do not necessarily share the sentiments.

There has been a lot of traffic concerning the above, but I haven't seen the
following point (problem?) highlighted.

Has anyone noted that some applications are distributed in 'pseudo' source
form; they (hush tones!) *compile* segments of code before the application
is ready to run. More often than not they use 'cc' to perform the task.

What are the vendors of such products going to do? Put up the price of the
application to include a C compiler? Redesign the product? 

Just wondering......

A throughly happy user of SunOS4.1.x
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: etxmesa@eos.ericsson.se (Michael Salmon)
Subject: Re: cmdtool in OW3 messes up on c shell file completion
Reply-To: etxmesa@eos.ericsson.se (Michael Salmon)
Organization: Ericsson Telecom AB
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 08:57:57 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.181707.21887@moe.einstein.com>, shmuel@moe.einstein.com (Shmuel Einstein) writes:
|> When pressing escape to invoke c-shell file completion in a cmdtool, gibberish is
|> displayed on the screen by the cmdtool.  However, if one types control r to
|> redisplay the command line, the result is correct; i.e., the file completion was
|> performed correctly.  Is anyone aware of a fix for this problem?

This has been a problem for as long as cmdtool has existed, and
probably will be for as long as it exists. The solution is to change to
tcsh or xterm or (IMHO preferably) both.

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From: glo@globox.Eng.Sun.COM (Gary Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: How to change the timezone?
Date: 29 Jul 1992 02:57:55 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: globox
Summary: carefully!

In article <1992Jul25.101124.15369@ukw.uucp> lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph) writes:
>cd /usr/lib/zoneinfo
>cp <your timezone file> localtime

Yikes!  Please remove localtime first!
Install/sysidtool hard links localtime to a timezone file
(which is typically a hard link to other timezone files).

% ls -li localtime
 41378 -rw-r--r--  4 root          746 Oct 11  1990 localtime
% find . -inum 41378 -print
./US/Pacific
./PST8PDT
./localtime
./localtime-

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: stevens@madvlsi.columbia.edu (Andy Stevens)
Subject: Re: Sticky Keyboard Problem.
Organization: Columbia University
Keywords: Stupid.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:43:54 GMT
X-Posted-From: canada.madvlsi.columbia.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Jul20.160513.25743@hellgate.utah.edu>, jhm%weasel.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Jimmy H. Miklavcic) writes:
|> Okay, I've got this SPARC2 with a monochrome monitor for the console
|> and also a color monitor.  I had installed Solaris 1.0, OpenWindows 3.0
|> and at the same time installed an new version of xntp.  Since this
|> upgrade, I have experienced the hanging mouse cursor problem (which
|> I've installed the xnews patch 100444.23), and random character
|> sticking.
|> 
|> Has any one experienced the keyboard problem at all?

I've noticed that the CTL key sticks sometimes when I run sunview
applications under OpenWindows 3.  I haven't found a solution, though
(other than whacking the key a few times).

--andy s.
From: kthompso@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Kevin Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Can I get rid of "ld.so: warning: /usr/lib/libc.so.1.foo.bar ..."
Date: 24 Jul 92 01:06:17 GMT
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division


Like many large installations I expect, we have several different SunOS'es
running on various machines.  If one builds a program (say perl) on 4.1.2,
then anytime you run perl on a program running 4.1.1, or some random patch,
or whatever, you get:

ld.so: warning: /usr/lib/libc.so.1.6 has older revision than expected 7

Is there any sort of general way of getting rid of these?  Can one just make
links on every machine from /usr/lib/libc.so.1.7 to /usr/libc/.so.1.6 (or
whatever)?  Is there harm in this?  libc doesn't change much, this warning
message drives me bananas ....

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Kevin Thompson

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: serges@x10siv.wariat.org (Sergio Stewart)
Subject: Setsid() ???
Summary: How do I resolve setsid() on Sun386i? 
Keywords: setsid sun386i X11R5 
Organization:  +X10siv Sub Ord of volaire+ 
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 04:48:47 GMT

Hey guys,

For the last few nights Ive been re-building XView3.0 on my Sun386i,
and Ive run into a hitch. After applying the two major/only patches
for Xview, my progress has come to a halt, due to a call to "setsid()"
in the file <XView3.0>/lib/libxview/ttysw/tty_init.c. 
Heres the code fragment:

--
#ifndef SVR4  /* SunOS4.x code */
    vec.sv_handler = SIG_DFL;
    vec.sv_mask = vec.sv_onstack = 0;
    sigvec(SIGWINCH, &vec, 0);
    /*
     * Become session leader, change process group of child
     * process (me at this point in code) so
     * its signal stuff doesn't affect the terminal emulator.
     */
   setsid();  <-- the culprit. 
   vec.sv_handler = SIG_IGN;
   vec.sv_mask = vec.sv_onstack = 0;
   sigvec(SIGTTOU, &vec, &ovec);

   close(ttysw->ttysw_tty);

   /* Make the following file descriptor be my controlling terminal */
   ttysw->ttysw_tty = open("/dev/tty", O_RDWR, 0);  /* open master tty* */
   sigvec(SIGTTOU, &ovec, 0);

#else SVR4  /* SVR4 code */
--
I am building with X11R5 libs and widgets, and compiling with the standard
cc.

The odddd thing about this, is that the comment plainly says 
"SunOS4.x code"? My Sun386i is standard SunOS 4.0.2, complete with 
everything except setsid(). Whats going on here. Is this just for
SunOS 4.1.x? Surely, theres a fix around this.

Any ideas.

Thanx,

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From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Planning to upgrade to Solaris 2?
Date: 23 Jul 1992 20:05:32 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <1992Jul22.193829.11844@ldp.com> rolfe@ldp.com writes:
>I love the ads tagged "Sun Microsystems Computer Company", as if I might  
>confuse it with the "Sun Microsystems Granola Factory" or some such thing.

But you might confuse it with Sun Microsystems, Inc.  One is the parent of
the other, but I can never remember which.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: reetz@news.colorado.edu (Mike Reetz)
Subject: Problem with formatting a CDC 94171-350 drive...
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:59:56 GMT

The subject line says it all.  I don't have the geometry for
this beast either...

Can someone help??

Mike
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From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Solaris incompatibilities - can this be true?
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:49:39 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <1992Jul31.164917.6063@scubed.com> stevens@scubed.com (Jeff Stevens) writes:
>1. Existing executables under Sun OS 4.1.2 will not
>run under Solaris 2.0.  

Incorrect.  Most dynamically linked executables are supposed to work.
Exceptions are programs that have hard-coded paths to system files (e.g.
many files in /etc are different, /usr/etc has a different name) and
programs that access kernel data structures.

>2. Solaris 2.0 does not support the Sun 4/XXX (e.g 4/110
>and 4/280) computers.  

All Sun SPARC-based systems are 4/XXX (e.g. Sun-4/60 is another name for
the Sparcstation 1).  I believe the correct characterization is that 2.0
will support the sun4c and sun4m kernel architectures.

>			This means that our network, which
>is a mixture of SPARCstations and Sun 4's all using the
>same server will have to be reconfigured as two networks
>in order to upgrade the SPARCs to Solaris.

No one is forcing you to upgrade right away.  Sun fully expects
heterogeneous sites like these to wait until 2.1 is released.  Many of us
are planning on waiting for it just because we're familiar with the
problems of running a *.0 release.

>3. Solaris 2.1 will support Sun 4/XXX, but will not support
>the FPU (Floating Point Unit/math co-processor) in these systems.

I haven't heard anything about this either way.

>  Can this be true?  Is Sun really going to release an OS upgrade
>that will break all existing applications, break most existing
>networks, and not even support Sun hardware?

They apparently had the choice of making everyone wait for a version of
Solaris 2 that supports all the architectures, or let an initial version
out that will work for some architectures.  In particular, many customers
with MP systems would really like the new release as soon as possible,
because it's expected to make more effective use of multiple processors.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: navarro@azur.enet.dec.com (Jean Navarro)
Subject: Kernel symbol name for MAXUSER
Keywords: maxuser
Reply-To: navarro@azur.enet.dec.com (Jean Navarro)
Organization: vbo.dec.com
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 09:12:02 GMT



Anyone knows what is the kernel symbol which will give me the corresponding
value of maxuser defined in the config file ?

Thanks

Jean Navarro
DEC Valbonne
France
From: mike@Turing.ORG (Michael M. Chapman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Help needed with sun 3/110 installation.
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:54:25 GMT
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.

I need some help installing a sun 3/110. I have access to other sun 3s
on the network, so I assume I can do a network install. If so, how? 
(I can take the system and hook it up via ethernet)

Second, how can I hook one of the serial ports up to a modem and use
it as a terminal - I'd need kermit or some transfer protocol better
than that. Also, would slip be the best bet to do tcp/ip on the other
serial port? 

Third, what type of ram does the expansion board in the 3/110 take? It's
there but unpopulated. 

Email responses appreciate, thanks for any help.

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From: wierda@ltb.ltb.bso.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Why does OW leave all kind of garbage in tmp?
Date: 23 Jul 92 07:30:17 GMT
Organization: BSO/LT, Baarn, The Netherlands

People here use OW 3.0. They turn on scrollbar on shelltool, the use file
manager. Result: /tmp gets filled with megabytes of trash like:

-rw-------  1 maxwell      8064 Jul 23 08:56 Text11572.0

etc. But then accumulated from weeks. Since these diskless workstations share
a disk partition on the sever for their root partitions, we end up with
surprisingly little room on / for everybody.

Why doesn't OW remove the suff when it is done with it? Note that stopping and
restarting OW doesn't help. It is just old stuff that isnot removed and will
not be removed unless you do it by hand.

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From: dejesus@archimedes.nwc.navy.mil (Francisco X DeJesus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: AT&T Sys V on a Sparc box
Keywords: AT&T SysV
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:03:19 GMT
Organization: Naval Weapons Center, China Lake, CA

Anyone out there with experiences running AT&T System V on a SUN Sparc? I
don't even know if it's possible to get AT&T Sys V for a Sparc, but if
it is, I'd like to know: 1-how to get it, 2-how much it costs, and 
3-has someone else tried it?

Before you start asking "why in the world...!?" just let me tell you that
I work at a research lab, and we like to try new things. Yeah, yeah, I know
Solaris 2 is supposed to be coming soon and it's Sys V, and we will be
upgrading to it eventually. I'm just trying to get some information so I
can give all the available options to the people who make decisions here.

So if anyone has or is running AT&T instead of SunOS on a Sparc, or if
you know positively that you can or can't get the system software in the
first place, I'd be interested in hearing about it. Reply by post or email.
Thanks in advance...



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: squevill@yo_dud.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Stephane Quevillon)
Subject: Popd and Popper problem
Keywords: pop popper pcnfs mac
Reply-To: squevill@stam.qe.bell.ca
Organization: OD, Bell Canada
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:24:39 GMT

John Horgan wrote about problems running popd and popper on the same Sun server.

Same problem here, starting the popd gives:

popd: bind: Address already in use.

Anyone can help?


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: ramesh@veda (Ramesh Dodamani)
Subject: OpenWin: CmdTool gets killed on logon
Reply-To: ramesh@veda.cwru.edu
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 06:07:50 GMT


Hello

Frequently it happens that when I log on to my SPARC IPC, one of the CmdTool  
gets killed with a core dump. It doesn't happen on a SLC. The IPC is the /usr  
file server for both the machines. This also happens sometimes when I create a  
new CmdTool. Does anybody know what could be happening?

Please reply by email.

Thanks
Ramesh

ramesh@veda.esys.cwru.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: a10j102@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Matt Kimmel)
Subject: Help!  Need networking utilities for Sparc 1!
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 05:14:50 GMT
X-Posted-From: titan.ucc.umass.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Hi.  I just bought a Sun Sparcstation 1, used, which included SunOS 4.1
on hard disk.  However, when I booted it up, I discovered that it had
been installed in "standalone" mode, and didn't include any of the
networking utilities, which I desperately need.  So my question is, is
there any way (maybe by contacting Sun) that I can get the utilities,
short of sending back the system, which would be really inconvenient?  I
do have a SunOS license, as far as I know.  Any help would be GREATLY
appreciated.

Thanks!!
-Matt
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: bailebn@mail.auburn.edu (Bliss Bailey)
Subject: Routing IPX
Keywords: route routed ipx 
Reply-To: bailebn@mail.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University 
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:57:44 GMT

I have a situation where a number of PC's on one subnet need to get to a
Novell file server on another Sub-net.  Currently, a Sun running routed 
is doing the IP routing.  Is there a way to configure the Sun to route
IPX packets as well?  Or, alternatively, is there another routing
package available which will allow the Sun to route IPX?


Bliss Bailey
Network Support
Auburn University, AL
bailebn@mail.auburn.edu
From: pburry@manitou.cse.dnd.ca (Paul Burry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Can the internal buffer size of PTYs be configured?
Date: 24 Jul 92 01:37:36 GMT
Organization: Canadian System Security Centre

I have an application that would like to make 16k non-interuptable writes
to a pty device.  (The application is Sybase 4.8).  Currently, when it does
a 16K write, it occasionally is interrupted a signal caused by its internal
scheduler.

Is there ANY way I can configure the kernel so I can get this behaviour.

I see in specfs/fifo.h the define FIFOBUF defines the amount of data buffered
by a pipe.  Would changing this from 4K to 16K cause the desired behaviour?

Alternatively, could anyone provide be with the source for a pipe-like device
providing non-interuptable writes that has both master and slave /dev/ entries?


Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated.
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From: lmjm@doc.ic.ac.uk (Lee M J McLoughlin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: GNU C and GDB for Solaris-2 are available!
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:24:09 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.misc
Organization: Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, London. U.K.

The cygnus directory from uunet is now also available from
src.doc.ic.ac.uk for UK/European users.  It is in package/cygnus.

This is available via Internet, Janet and IXI.  Email me if you need
details on how to access.
	Lee
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: vrr@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (veenu.r.rashid)
Subject: HELP:  a way to make a boot floppy + tape
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:49:02 GMT


I would like to find out how I can make a boot floppy +
installation tape from a cd-rom version of SunOS 4.1.1
or 4.1.2 for a 3/60.


Please reply email to vrr@cbnewsj.att.com


Thanks very much,
Veenu
From: mike@Turing.ORG (Michael M. Chapman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: A few Sun 3/110 questions...
Date: 26 Jul 92 15:23:04 GMT
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.


What sort of memory upgrade options do I have? It's got the main board which has
4 megs and the SCSI board (no ram)... What else can I do?

Also, I'm going to try and fit a SCSI drive inside the case (with only two boards there
is room) - this is a bad idea?

I there any place I can get at least the hardware manual that might come with
this system... one that might tell me basic hardware stuff, installation, about
the ROM and such... 

Thanks for any help...
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