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In rec.motorcycles, ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang) writes:

><9901066@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney) writes:
>> You should be aware that loud noises induce a number of involuntary 
>> physiological reactions. It's not simply a matter of tolerance.  Among these 
>> reactions, loud noises will increase blood pressure and pulse rate.  
>> Motorcyclist did a small writeup a few years ago.  It explains how you can 
>> feel so exhausted after a long ride when you don't wear earplugs.
>
>	This sounds like an argument that a fundamentalist christian
>preacher used against rock music that I heard on some TV talk show a few
>years ago.  And of course, if you read it in _Motorcyclist_, it must be
>right.

As pasker would say,  Oww, oww, hotty tot hot.  That one hurts.  Now I've
been likened to Oral Roberts.  Actually, I believe the alleged preacher.
There are times that I *enjoy* having my blood pressure and pulse raised by
loud rock and roll.  For brief periods.  Not on an all day ride.  And not
when I don't feel like it.  

I must admit, my dirt bike could be quieter.  I have sacrificed some extra
noise to shave critical pounds.  A loud exhaust on an overweight street pig
is nothing more than an annoying waste of money.  

>> So kindly put a cork in it.  Your exhaust that is. 
> 
>	Hey Chris!  Listen to Jeff !  Do what he says !
> 
>	Why ? Uhhh, because he says so ?  Don't *you* just want to do
> everything that Jeff says ?
> 
> 	My Jeff, I sure do admire your ability to motivate people!

My aplogies.  What I meant to say was: " So kindly put a cork in it.  This
thread that is".  Jeesh.  What a bunch of post riding season whining.  Get
a fix folks. 

I think I'll go home, repack my Muzzy, and remove a few disks. 

-Jeff Deeney-  KotD #0000  DoD#0498    NCTR    '88 XR600-Shamu   
jld@hpfcpe.fc.hp.com       AMA#540813  COHVCO  '81 CB750F-Llamaha 
I'm OK, you're too damn loud.
From: joe@rider.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Uneven Front tyre
Date: 7 Nov 92 17:59:42 GMT
Reply-To: joe@rider.cactus.org
Distribution: world
Organization: NOT

egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
]Physics by consensus?

sorta like riding by memory...

-- 
Joe Senner -- joe@Rider.Cactus.Org                                 Austin, TX
"I don't believe in a risk free society, where the
 thrills of living are traded for the safety of existence." -- Nick Ienatsch
From: moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Repair of tubeless tire.
Keywords: repair tubeless tire
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:01:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.moseley.114.0
Organization: Microbial Pathogenesis and Motorcycle Maintenance

In article <1992Nov5.085348.6993@hsr.no>
 karl@hsr.no (Karl Martin Lund) writes:

>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>I would like to hear the r.m. readers opinions on wether it is
>adviceable to repair a tubeless MC-tyre. The tyre was punctured
>by a nail about 1.5 inches long, going straight into the back-
>tyre of my GSX. I have pulled the nail out, and it seems like
>the area around the hole is non-damaged. Since the tyre has just
>a couple of thousand miles on it, I would prefer repairing it,
>instead of bying a new one.  The tyre is a Avon A21, 130/90.


I've been told that you absolutelu should not attempt to repair a radial 
motorcycle tire, or even a tyre. I was first told this when I picked up a 
nail in a Michelin radial, by the factory and the dealer. Something 
about the plug and or patch squirming out of the hole when subjected to 
the twisting forces unique to radial motorcycle tires. Well I replaced that 
tire, but about one thousand miles ago, picked up a nail in my Avon radial. 
I have decided to just leave the damn thing in there. It doesn't leak, the 
tire's got about 2,000 decent miles left on it, I'll be mostly commuting 
until spring, so no serious twisties, and I'm not ready to shell out for a 
new tire. Am I risking a catastrophic blowout? 

 - Steve
__________________________________________________________________________
Steve L. Moseley                                  moseley@u.washington.edu
Microbiology SC-42                                Phone: (206) 543-2820
University of Washington                          FAX:   (206) 543-8297
Seattle, WA 98195
From: gunnj@ddn-wms.nmi.com (Janet Gunn)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Ever heard of the DKW?
Summary: DKW at Daytona
Date: 4 Nov 92 23:47:57 GMT
Organization: Network Mgmt Inc., Fairfax, VA


Lots of good stuf about DKWs in the 20s, 30s and 40s deleted

Mr Bley (Eric, I think) usually brings several (including one of the
2-cylinders-have-spark-plus-one-doesn't "supercharged" ones) to the Vintage
races at Daytona in March.  SOmetimes he races them, sometimes he just 
shows them.

Gorgeous machines.

Janet gunnj@nmi.com
the "reply to" is almost certainly WRONG




Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: UK - Motorcycle Show
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:20:10 GMT

ant@galadriel.bt.co.uk (Antony Espindola) writes:

>It's a bit too far to bike though, so it'll be a coach job.

I gotta know, how far is "too far to bike"???

-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: test
Date: 10 Nov 1992 16:08:04 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

I think we should mount a campaign to enact CO's anti-queer law
nationally, but tie it in to the helmet law.  Not wearing a helmet
shall not be used to determine minority status for the purpose of
descrimination.

Laszlo for senator!

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cab@col.hp.com (Chris Best)
Subject: Re: Dave's First Crash ( Re: New Dance
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:16:55 GMT
Organization: your service

> >I saw some TV show that talks about new techno-stuff.  They showed inflatable
> >barriers made for lining the edges of tracks for motorcycle racing.  
> >I hope this idea catches on.
> 
> It already has.  They've been lining the gutters of bowling lanes for
> years.

----------

Maybe where YOU bowl, but I've never seen them.  Don't worry,
you'll get better...
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: Rubber brake hose failure?
Reply-To: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 15:22:48 GMT

|> In article <1992Nov11.130805.16627@bnr.ca>, space%bnr.ca (Scott Pace)
|> writes:
|> > 
|> > The owners manual for both of my bikes (both Suzuki) says that all
|> > hydraulic brake lines should be replaced every two years.  These
|> are
|> > expensive items!  I know I could put SS lines on, but that is
|> still
|> > expensive.  One of the bikes is a '79, and probably still has the
|> original
|> > hoses. 
|> > 
|> > Has anyone ever heard of rubber brake hoses failing, or is Suzuki
|> just
|> > trying to cover their ass?
|> Robert H. Yang  writes:
|> 	My guess is that Suzuki engineers understand C.Y.A. just as well
|> [Some stuff deleted]
|> 	However, (correct me if I'm wrong) the thing about rubber lines
|> is that they can partially seal a small leak without complete loss
|> of
|> braking power, wheras stainless lines, if they leak, they leak.
|> 
|> Good luck,
|> Rob
|> --
  I have not looked at MC stainless kits but when you buy
Russel hose and loose fittings (I did my Waggoneer 2 years ago)
the stainless hoses are rubber on the inside and the stainless
is on the outside, are MC kits or hoses differnet I would not
think straight braiding would do anything to keep liquids in.
I also thought that the purpose of stainless was to eliminate
rupturing under pressure and reduce wear due to friction of
hoses rubbing against objects.

-- 
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in the same store.
From: tomes@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Loud pipes: get some perspective
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:44:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxH0Hr.89t
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

Everyone seems to be missing the real point: When Joe Q. Public gets pissed
at motorcyclists, he takes away some motorcyclists' rights.  Whether there
is a reasonable justification for this or not is immaterial since we are a
small, underrepresented political group that has demonstrated political apathy
until recently.  The fact that the federal government is legislating our
cager actions (speed limit, seat belt laws) seems to have dulled our senses
to the misapplication of legislative authority.

So stop bitching to each other about why it is so important to be loud or
quiet and start thinking about what happens when 51% of your local voters
decide that you have to do something on or to your bike to satisfy some
stupid or irrelevant notion of safety or public good.

BTW, the Motorcycle Safety Foundation, the AMA, and HOG are the only groups
I know of that are effective at influencing policy.  Think about that when
you deride the MSF and then in the next breath complain about inane helmet
laws: MSF has been fighting them since its creation.

One cannot legislate common sense; however, one can require reasonable
rider training standards that have been demonstrated to reduce accidents and
injuries.

CP Tomes
"It wasn't MY fault!  The rear tire blew when I was doing a wheelie and I just
lost control....  there wasn't anything I could do." 
     - Famous last words of a squid at a MSF RiderCourse
From: ant@galadriel.bt.co.uk (Antony Espindola)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: DoD
Date: 9 Nov 92 09:14:42 GMT
Organization: Data and Business Comms, BT Labs, Martlesham, Ipswich, UK.

From article <721185461snx@swamp.demon.co.uk>, by Neil@swamp.demon.co.uk (njb):
> Can anybody tell a newcomer WTH Do means?

Ut-oh.

Ready....Aim....Mail !


Antony.
DoD#1832
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Break-in (what is it?)
Date: 7 Nov 92 15:26:11 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH

egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:

[good answer about "break-in" deleted]

>If this is one of those "sucker" questions, well, fuck it, somebody was
>probably really wondering, anyway.

Ed, are you *still* smarting from that little hook a few
weeks ago?
-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: The old man and the fob.
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:05:50 GMT


The snow continues to fall. Max tastes not to bad in a tangy marmalade
garnish. Body racked with worms. The children continue to lose weight.
We're trying to pass the days sleeping to preserve strength. Floating
in and out of consciousness one can never be sure if any mail carriers
are actually looking for the mail box. Golden Spectro gone. Cold everywhere.
Day 5. When will this accursed misery end.
Is it better to fob or not to fob, that is the .
                                               .
                                                delirium(sp?)
                                                 .
                                                  ugh
                                                   .
 
================================================================================
 Ipsissimus of the Inner Order of Sesquipedalian Fruitcakes - I set'r free.Nyuk
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
================================================================================
From: tomes@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Motorcyclist Hits Bicyclist on Skyline
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:02:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxH1Cv.8sL
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

In article <1dml1sINNfh@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>In article 3K4@news.iastate.edu, tomes@iastate.edu () writes:
>>
>>I may be forced to wear my helmet (instead of making an 
>>informed choice to wear it) because the twenty years of riders before me
>>compiled some truly nauseating statistics on head injuries 
>
>Wrong.  I have never seen any statistics compiled on the head injuries
>of twenty years worth of helmetless riders.  Helmet laws are pushed by
>special interests, and justified to the public by lies and hand-waving,
>"common sense" arguments.  Solid data on helmet-preventable motorcycle
>injuries, and their social costs, are glaringly absent.

I agree completely with your analysis of the content of the safetycrats'
arguments, but there still exists the question of why are they doing it?
There are more dangerous, common things that could be changed with little
or no loss of liberties.  Like enforcing traffic laws on bicyclists, who are
legally motor vehicles in many states.  The reason that they single out
motorcyclists is that they have the IMAGE of non-helmeted, noisy, lawbreaking,
unsafe riders in their minds.  How did that happen?  If riders would think
a little and ride within certain limits voluntarily, then the reactionary
public would not notice us except when we honk at them for cutting us off
or ( hopefully never!!! ) collide with them when it hits the fan.

Since facts are absent from public image debates, the only thing we can do
is to try to change the public image of motorcycling before these discussions
turn to when we can ride due to local laws ( sounds like hunting regulations,
doesn't it?).

I personally would like to have the option of buying a new sportbike in five
years that is better than the current crop of bikes.  If we don't do anything
to change the current surge of safetybullshitlegislation I may be stuck with
a used ZX11  (rough luck there  ;)  ) instead of a front swingarm/1100cc4cyl/
150hp/185mph blaster that is looming on the horizon.  Or unable to afford the
insurance on either, even in Iowa.

CP Tomes
"Since when did reality have anything to do with it?  This is MOTORCYCLING!"
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles.harley
From: mpmena@skcla.monsanto.com
Subject: MERCEDES MOTORCYCLE????
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:18:54 GMT

Recently, my wife and I saw a "Mercedes" motorcycle...The M-B name and logo
were clearly on the machine, and it looked unlike any other bike I had ever
seen.

Unfortunately, when I mentioned the Mercedes motorcycle to a small group of
riders (one of which was an extremely self-assured, opinionated (read that aho)
German; to our German friends, not flaming Germans, just that being THIS guy's
German, I would think he'd know.)  Well, he made it quite clear that Mercedes
had never made and would never consider making a motorcycle, and that the wife
and I must have been firin' up too many twisters (anyone remeber THAT
statement!...)  We hadn't, and we saw what we saw.  The question is, were we
deceived (cleverly, I might add) or is there, in fact at Mercedes motorcycle?  

Thanks, as if there is one, I want to shove the evidence up his butt!


Michael Menard

1992 FXSTS
1992 FXDC

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Subject: Re: Bikes Indoors (Was Re: SOMEONE TRIED T
Reply-To: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:32:09 GMT

In article <1du32dINNfh@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>In article 1536@microsoft.com, timke@microsoft.com (Tim Keane) writes:
>My attached garage (no firewall) contains, among other things:
>
>Regular gasolene
>2-stroke gasolene
>Assorted paints & solvents
>Kerosene
>Charcoal Lighter Fluid
>Gun powder
>Primer caps
>Two vehicles with gas tanks 
>Assorted power tools with attached gas tanks
>A smoke detector
>A fire extinguisher

	Yeah, but we all know what *ISN'T* in that garage! :-)

>Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,

-------
"Don't believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear."  -  Lou Reed
Sea-Bass Sears --> scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu --> DoD#516 <-- |Stanley, ID.|
'79 Yamaha XS750F -- '85 Toyota 4Runner -- Perception Corsica  |  NYC, NY.  |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Loud pipes: get some perspective
From: jerry@stratford.dab.ge.com (Jerry Szulinski)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1992 21:09:54 GMT
Organization: GE Simulation & Control Systems

In article <Bx3onn.2zC@tridom.com> alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming) writes:
>In article <kewQH7y00WB5NS8pk5@andrew.cmu.edu>, ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Joseph Andy) writes:
>> Also, what kinda pipes are we talking about here?  There's a whole
>> range of noise from aftermarket pipes, from quieter to stock to louder
>> than hell.  The Team Suzuki Endurance GSXR1100's are painful
>> (literally) to hear without ear plugs.  However, most aftermarket

Time to reminisce a little here.
I used to have an '82 GPz 750 and boy did I like its Kerker pipe. It 
was one of those old design pipes like Eddie Lawson would have on his
KZ1000 Superbike. I liked the looks of it (the inverted cone), but
most of all I liked the way it sounded. As I recall, it was much quieter
than any aftermarket pipe today (except maybe Supertrapp). Unfortunately,
I doubt Kerker carries them anymore. What I do know though, is that their
competition pipe is probably the loudest of all I've seen. BTW, whatever
happened to Bassani (sp); their pipes sounded great on air cooled monsters
of old .... sigh. In today's age of neon shorts and oakley's does anybody
remember such things as KZ1000, CB900F, GS1150E, _the_ Katana, Z-1 :-)
It's kind of strange to see a bike with no more than three letters in its 
name.

Jerry S.
From: pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bikes for candidates
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:26:50 GMT
Reply-To: pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith)
Distribution: rec
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

In article <FAUNT.92Nov10085025@dustbin.cisco.com> faunt@dustbin.cisco.com (Doug Faunt N6TQS 415-688-8269) writes:
>I heard, on the radio, the tail end of a statement by the newly
>elected Senator from Colorado, a Native American, who said he had
>already put an order in for a new Harley.
>All statemnts in this message are suject to correction.

Apparently he has already taken delivery...

One of the other guys here in the office has a newspaper clipping
stuck on his wall.  It's a picture of Ben Nighthorse Campbell astride
his new FLHTC with every chrome dodad available -- and a trailer.  I
don't know if this is how he intends to commute between Washington and
Colorado. :-)
--

P.M. Smith
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: drinckes@nzl.abk.nec.co.jp (Doug Rinckes)
Subject: Re: speedometer gear box questions
Reply-To: drinckes@nzl.abk.nec.co.jp
Organization: Telecommunications Systems Support Centre, New Zealand
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:30:55 GMT


In article 4170@unisql.UUCP, ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:
>
>
>A few weeks ago I was cruising around 90 mph on my `88 Hawk
>and noticed two things:
>
>   1) a LOUD high-pitched whine coming from down around the front wheel,
>
>   2) my speedometer needle was completely freaked out, bouncing around
>      anywhere between 40 and 120.
>
>I took it in to TJ's and they said that the speedometer gear box was
>just in need of some grease...without it, at high speeds the thing would
>get hot and want to seize up.  They greased it for me.
>
>So last weekend I happened to have an opportunity to go that fast again,
>very briefly, and the same thing happened.  The noise starts up at around
>90, and stays constant in pitch and volume until I slow down to about
>20mph, at which point it suddenly stops.  (I tried it twice).  This morning
>on the way to work I kept it at 75mph or less, and had no problem.
>
>SO, my questions:
>
>   1) Does TJ's diagnosis make sense?  If not, what else should I try?
>
>   2) How often is one supposed to grease the gear box?
>
>   3) How hard is it to do?  From what I can gather, you just take off
>      the front wheel, open up the gearbox, grease it, and put it back
>      on.
>
>
>Any advice or free beer appreciated.

My speedo started doing a similar thing a while back, except the noise was
coming from the speedo unit itself, not the drive.  Turned out one of
the teeny tiny bearings was worn enough to allow two bits that are supposed
to spin real close to each other to touch occasionally, causing the squeal
and the needle jump.  Check that, and take it to an instrument repair
shop.  There are about two in New Zealand, the US probably has more.

Sorry, no free beer.  I _need_ all of mine.


Doug Rinckes  drinckes@nzl.abk.nec.co.jp | My companys opinions are like
TSSC New Zealand    DoD#: 741            | my companys cars - they don't
1976 BMW R100S + 41mm Dell'Ortos         | like me using either of them.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Spanning The Globe
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:06:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.010802.7563@cerritos.edu> tanner@cerritos.edu writes:
>
>>>And whether pigs have 'Wings."
>
>I prefer "And whether Hogs or 'Wings".
>
>> 	I used to know the whole poem.  Anyone know what title I can
>> look for to refresh my memory?
>
>"The Walrus and the Carpenter" from _Through the Looking-Glass_ by the
>Rev. C. L. DoDgson

Oops.  Just because he was Alice's father doesn't mean he wrote
the darn thing...

-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
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