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From: tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
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Subject: Re: Birthdays Oct. 1 - 5
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:46:42 GMT
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>And to think that I missed the birthday of Edward L. STratemeyer, *father*
>of some of my favorite childhood friends!

Couldn't help noticing that the list missed Gandhi, father of a whole
nation.

tushar
From: rita@EFF.ORG (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
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Subject: Re: Gifs
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:13:15 GMT
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              Oct 5, 92 5:57 pm

> Now available via anonymous ftp from ftp.msstate.edu (or isis.msstate.edu
> or ra.msstate.edu) in docs/words-l/Gifs: apocalypso.gif (167547) and
> steph-gt.gif (150935).

	Too bad we're not selling the t-shirts anymore -- I coulda
used the apocalypso as a *great* advertisement.

Rita
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From:         Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS%CWU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Model Railroad

>"Do you do model trains, Steve?  If so, you might be interested in the one
>on p. 57 of the Neiman-Marcus xmas catalogue.  It's pretty basic -- no
>fancy tunnels or switches or anything like that.  But it's kind of cute."
>
>Gosh, Natalie, you mean I've been spending all my time converting
>measurements on drawings, sawing little bits of wood to the right
>length, drilling and tapping, inserting small pins with tweezers,
>airbrushing and decaling, when all I had to do was send Neiman some
>money and open up the box :-) :-)
>
>I trust you're using a different sense of "cute" in different posts?
>
>Steve Karlson

Having a brother who's been "tying his own", so to speak, since he was 6, I
pretty much could have scripted Steve's response here.  Natalie, basically what
you offered Steve was a chance to go out and buy a pre-written term paper from
some fly-by-night "research" group.

Chris "So, I like the picture that came with the frame" Schmidt
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: My femocentric explanation
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I agree with Anne.  Except - uh, don't you mean testosterone?

doris smith (dorisann@tenet.edu)
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:08:34 EDT
From:         IBAILEYTW%1994B%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject:      still a loser
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Marty,

     First, I wasn't aware that we were being graded on our spelling and
correct grammer.  I send my apologies.  On the other hand, VMI offers an
education that most could not endure.  Not only do we get an academic
education but also a military education and an extremely indepth education in
discipline.  Something that you and the Bodeans should look into.  On the
other hand, I don't think you could ever last here and therefore we would have
one more court case to fight because someone couldn't handle our system.  As
for Robert E. Lee, he had little or nothing to do with our school.  Maybe you
should read up on your history a little bit.  On the other hand, Stonewall
Jackson was a professor here, maybe you just got your names mixed up.  Read
more in History of the Old South and get back to me on what cadets from VMI
did that no other school has ever done.  You might learn something about
courage and sacrifice.  Now I will end this so that you can goto the library
and read up on history.  By the way, you are still a loser!

                                  Country
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From:         "Elwood P. Dowd" <ELWOOD%UCSBVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (61)

>23) CD'A Press (Elwood)
   Abbreviation for Coeur D' Alene, Idaho.  This is a resort city in
northern Idaho, in an area known recently for attracting some conservative
organiztions.  The _Press_ is the daily newspaper for the city, and tends
(I believe) to reflect this conservative element.
EPD
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:54:47 EDT
From:         IDISAVINOH%1994B%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject: Re: still a loser
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Hey Marty:

   You know what I mean!!!  It's true, don't you think?


                      Howie-D
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:12:27 CDT
From:         "(Natalie Maynor)" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Movie List?
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One of our grad students just asked me if I knew of any good lists for
discussion of movies.  It occurred to me that I could probably get better
information by asking WORDS-Lers than by grepping the lists of lists.  Any
suggestions?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:14:06 EDT
From:         "(Rashmi)" <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: economics
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>
> The term "chaos" emerged almost by accident.  There are classes of
> problems in economics, biology, and fluid dynamics in which the
> results are sensitive to initial conditions.  James Yorke, a mathematician
> at UC-Berkeley, submitted a paper titled "Period Three Implies Chaos"
> to the _American Mathematical Monthly_, which analyzed some of the
> problems.  The name "chaos" stuck.  See James Gleick, _Chaos: Making
> a New Science_ (Viking 1987)

Though the term "chaos" was coined in the paper Steve cites above, one of
the first persons to become aware of this phenomenon (sensitive dependence
on initial conditions, or deterministic chaos) was Edward Lorenz of MIT, who
was studying weather prediction models.  His paper on the so-called
"butterfly effect" appeared in the late fifties or early sixties.

rashmi
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:25:32 MST
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              jwales@iubvm.BITNET, olsenj@stolaf.edu,
              shlyakhter@huhepl.harvard.edu, kousen@rayleigh.res.utc.com,
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      "30 September"
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There has been some discussion of what Valentine M. Smith is like.....and this
could be one much like some have posted to words-l....personal, but
still interesting to those who don't know him well....and one I don't
mind crossposting since it has been posted to a public, open list.   dan
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
"30 September"

September's end has had significance to me ever since the pleasant
afternoon in 1969 when my first son Jim was born, and I recall
driving the eleven miles to my in-law's house to tell them, and
getting a real blase reaction from my then-father-in-law, the late
Joe Enright. But, within days, it registered on Joe that he was a
grandfather for the first time, and then we couldn't keep him out of
house, despite the fact he hated that we lived in an integrated
neighborhood, and he hadn't been real fond of me up to that point.

The years passed, Pat and I divorced, she and the boys moved to
Arizona, and I lived alone for eight years, then lived with Marcia
for 11 months, marrying 11 years ago today, on a day hauntingly like
today - a vague crispness in the air, the barest of leaf color
beginning on a few trees, green pretty much still the predominant
thing, a sunny day in the low 70s, although 9/30/81 was a lot more
frantic than this anniversary promises to be. At this time of day
(1630), I was setting up a keg of beer on our second floor porch, 2
and half hours from splicing the knot.

Tonight, it will be just the two of us, not the 85 who helped us
celebrate that joining together, but I have a lot of feeling of that
day's prescence in today. In 11 years, we've discovered much we are
different in, many things we agree upon, and occasionally we can
finish each other's sentences, like folks we know who've been married
20 years. We battle, as I'm a "stuff person" and Marcia is a
minimalist, but we get along more than one might think, given our
differences.

Anyway, as we sit eating shrimp tonight, I revel in the fact we're
here today with so much to celebrate. VMS
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:21:14 -0400
From:         "(Agnes Kruchio)" <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject: Re: Truth squad (was gleanings)
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              "JOEP%EPCC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu" at Oct 2, 92 4:24 pm

>
>    Steve, Marty, and JAG:  I second the motion to continue the economic
>       discussion on the list. I, for one, am *certainly* enjoying it.
>
>
>    Joe P.
>

All in favour say "aye"!

AYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYE....!

A.
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:48:10 EDT
From:         IBAILEYTW%1994B%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject: Re: still a loser
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Marty,  Yes a guy who did not go to VMI can be a good commander and President,
just not a liberal Democrat like Clinton.  He is surely a loser.  On the other
hand, a Democrat in office might be the best thing at this point in time with
a Democratic Congress who obviously will not let a Republican do his job.

                               Country

p.s.  Howie-D is right, you are too uptight!
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:00:19 CDT
From:         "(Natalie Maynor)" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Bounced Mail
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****************************************************************
 REMINDER:  WHEN INCLUDING A PREVIOUS LIST POSTING IN SOMETHING
 YOU'RE SENDING TO THE LIST, BE SURE TO EDIT OUT ALL REFERENCES
 TO WORDS-L IN THE HEADERS.       o/.\___/
                                   \_____|   Dr. Perro
                                   / \ / \
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> Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 12:45:02 -0400
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> Subject:      WORDS-L: error report from REX.MNSMC.EDU
> To: Jeff Kell <JEFF%UTCVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>, MAYNOR@RA.MSSTATE.EDU
>
>The enclosed mail file, found in the WORDS-L reader and shown under the spoolid
>4006  in the  console log,  has been  identified as  a possible  delivery error
>notice  for  the following  reason:  "Sender:",  "From:" or  "Reply-To:"  field
>pointing to the list has been found in mail body.
>
> ------------------------- Message in error (35 lines)
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> To: The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>, WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu
> From: DANGEL@REX.MNSMC.EDU
> Organization: Saint Mary's College of Minnesota
> Date: 2 Oct 92 11:39:35 GMT+1200
> Subject: Re: God contacted me
>
> > Date:          Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:31:00 MDT
> > From:          The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
> > Subject:       Re: God contacted me
>
> > Revealeth "Alec D. Plotkin" <185422285%VUVAXCOM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
> >
> > > God needs to test. I am beginning to wonder what is going on.
> >
> >      How quickly they forget.  God also needed a starship.
> >
> > The Ronin
> > Do you feel that you have been called by god. Could you be more
> specific about the way he wants to test you?
>
>                                                Diego Angel.
>                                                Dangel@rex.mnsmc
>
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:28:54 -0500
From:         Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik <amadeus@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (61)
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On Wed, 30 Sep 1992, (Graham Toal) wrote:

>  not call themselves Wiccan, thank you very much.  And unless you know the
>  person in question, you have no bloody idea whether s/he has any
>  historical basis for what s/he is doing.  So bugger off.
>
> How can *anyone* have an historical precedent for witchcraft when there
> is none, as there is no history of druids going back more than a hundred years
> or so despite what the idiots at stonehenge every summer say; likewise the
> masons' claim to great antiquity is totally bogus.  Egyptians indeed.  Pah.

I'm not talking Gardnerian Wicca in which there's more ceremonial magic
than anything else, with smatterings of Germanic and Celtic folklore here
and there.  Gardner *did* make his stuff up, I'll grant you.

But there is plenty of historical precedent for witchcraft, folk magic,
whatever you want to call it (and that means more than Margaret Murray).
And there is for the druids of old as well.  They weren't the same people
as the towelheads that crash Stonehenge every year, but they did exist.  I
can't say anything about the Masons because I don't know that much about
them.

People are reconstructing things right and left, yes.  And very often they
don't do enough homework (or just ignore facts that don't fit with their
particular vision), and do a bad job.  But there is historical precedent,
of both witchcraft and goddess worship.  What there is not is a perfect
unbroken line from paleolithic times to now.  The people who claim that
are the ones who piss me off.  As you say, pah.

> G
> PS I do, regularly.

Perhaps that wasn't the best choice of words.  I was in a particularly
foul mood because my daughter has a cold.  (Of course, if I chose to tell
you off with something you do and enjoy, then I guess I wasn't very
effective, was I?)  :) :)

-----Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik-------------------------------*<:-)-------------
"Queens never make bargains."  -- The Red Queen, _Through the Looking Glass_
-----amadeus@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu--------------The University of Texas @Austin---
From: pwiebe@ecst.csuchico.edu (s mandell)
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Subject: Re: 747
Date: 5 Oct 92 05:53:07 GMT
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Stephen H. Karlson  writes:
>Steph, keep us advised about that crash.  The early reports in the
>US are that it was truly awful, because the plane was unable to
>dump its fuel before crashing, which contributed to the rapid spread
>of the fire.

The first reports here from an eyewitness, less than an hour after the
crash was that the pilot did manage to dump the fuel, and mostly over
the IJselmeer (water). 

S
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:19:00 CDT
From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject: Re: More Past Blast

From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>

> Very perceptive, Marty.  Ooooops, I said I wasn't going to udder
> a <word>....

Aw, cud it out, and keep that clock mooving.

Steve Karlson

Luff 'em and leave 'em
From: harwell@BANDW.PANAM.EDU
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Subject: Graham and Steph Gif
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:29:11 GMT
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I just posted two gifs to incoming on ra. As usual, they will not be
available until Frank or Natalie moves them into public ftpspace. They were
made from a photo taken by Emily when she was over there this summer. Two
serene Wordslers float tranquilly on a punt.

These gifs mark the first time I have been able to get Photoshop to produce
undithered, unpixillated color, and ot celebrate, I made up two versions of
the photo. The original was rather dark, so I had to fool with the
brightness and contrast levels some. The file called steph+gt.gif is the
best compromise I could get with a normal color palette. The file
apocalypso.gif is really weird, an ugly orange sky, with trees that have
reversed their color values and are now negative images. Looks like Graham
and Steph are punting for their lives in front of a nuclear blast. Go for
it.

-abh
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:29:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: ATEP (31 - 32)
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> 	Fascinating!  Nico will be thrilled to find out that he got
> a vote for most interesting pet.. I was hoping to place higher for
> nastiest to newbies..  I mean, I practically campaigned for it.
>
>
> Rita

Actually, the exact vote was worded:  rita (Nico the sex puppet)
I saw it myself!
--ggs
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:40:41 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: Speaking of Net Stuff

>Can some of you net gurus out there tell me why I get at least five or
>six a day of the following messages re Tushar's system?  This has been
>going on for ages now -- as in many weeks.

Don't worry. I will begin try to get mail to a new account from now on,
right after I am done with setting it up.

tushar
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:56:11 -0600
From:         harwell@BANDW.PANAM.EDU
Subject:      Re: !!
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>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>What's the deal? Can't I make sexist comments anymore!?!?!
>
>-abh
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Sure, as long as you're well-insulated.
>
>JAG

Typical male chauvanist remark!

-abh
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 12:01:00 CDT
From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject:      Re: German/American Day at LoL

Don, I may have committed a deutsch-oops or two in there.  The
sharper students will catch it for me.

Steve Karlson
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Date:         Sun, 27 Sep 1992 12:33:26 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Speeding

Torquemada recently:

> same the world over. On the one hand, statistics indicate that
> lowering the speed limits means decreasing the number of people who
> are injured or killed on the highways.  On the other hand, it's

Actually, I thought the stats showed that in Europe, where the speed limits
are higher or nonexistent, that there are, in fact, fewer accidents, but
that an accident is much more likely to be fatal.  I confess that I am
repeating rumor/cant/possibly an article I read in a previous life.

Got any stats on the subject?

-Mka
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Subject:      Re: Perotian quote

Greetings,

One of the many things that bothers me about pereauvian populism is the
often-expressed notion that there is some kind of problem with our
political system in the US.  I'm not sure what this means.  When he alleges
that the "system" has failed us, is he talking about democracy?

Marty
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Subject:      Re: Fakery

>Posted on 2 Oct 1992 at 04:46:38 by Uriacc Mailer (002033)
>
>Fakery
>
>Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 03:47:09 EST
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>
>NITEMAN was for real and I know how to forge posts.  The level of plausible
He was for real. I talked to him on th e phone. I had aconversation with one
of his co-wokers and asked about him. Most of what he said on the list was
bullshit but, there was a real person behind the joke postings.
lisa
>
>-Mka
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:39:10 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      WFF: Some final observations

Some very interesting votes, together with my very witty comments:

>uses the foulest language: richh (3)
What were these three people thinking?

>asks the dumbest questions: gt
Again, one wonders who this voter was.


>talks most about spouse/significant other: *ts*

This is by far the most interesting to me. Is this just whimsy or do I
detect a devilish grin behind this? What is the meaning of it? Questions,
questions.


>most confusing:
>     WINNER:   *ts* (13)
>     runner-up: TIE: ruth/gt/jmw (2)

Just wanted to crow over this again. More than double that of RUTH and
GRAHAM and JOHN M WILLIAMS put TOGETHER. If that ain't great, what is?


>most irritating:  jimT

I have TWO guesses as to who voted this.


And finally, the most interesting:

>the virtual earth-mother:  //anne//

You know, if you think about it, it ... makes total sense ... wonder who
thought of this nicest vote of all. I strongly feel that //anne// should
not be offended by this one.

There was a set of votes for Bernard, one in each category. Not very
interesting, unfortunately.

tushar
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From:         "(Rashmi)" <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject: Re: Anne on faked addresses
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> putting anything but valid address information in the MAIL FROM line. But
> yes, the Santa posting was almost certainly Tushar, which <pisses me off>
> because I wrote Santa my wish list, and now he's probably never going to
> read it!

This is *too* funny!!  Anne, you mean you really didn't know?  I was sure
you were in the loop and playing along when I saw your letter to Santa,
even suspected you for a couple of minutes!

My guess was based on the first letter from Santa (the people mentioned were
great giveaways), and Chris's responses.  What's needed now is confirmation
from Santa himself (I will admit to doubts about Tushar's omniscience).

The Lob seems to have disappeared, where are you, Chris?

rashmi
"What sort of name is Lob anyways?"
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