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From: chandoni@husc8.UUCP (John-Marc Chandonia, , , )
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Win3 --> OS/2 2.0 upgrade for $49!!!
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:15:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Apr10.181523.10935
Originator: chandoni@husc8.harvard.edu

iam@stiatl.salestech.com (Ian Mercado):
> So what exactly is the magical phone number to IBM that will allow us to
> participate in this wonderful deal also?
> 
> Inquiring minds want to know.

1-800-3IBMOS2

Why do I feel like Jerry Brown?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jinli@dgp.toronto.edu (Jin Li)
Subject: Re: Is OS/2 2.0 faster than Windows??
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 12 Apr 92 23:28:57 GMT

merrill@cs.arizona.edu (Darren Merrill) writes:

>In article <1992Apr12.175705.10643@wes.on.ca> tomh@wes.on.ca (Tom Haapanen) writes:
>[ benchmarks deleted ]
>>WINOS2 tests run on: PS/2 Model 80 16MHz w/ 80387; IBM VGA; 8 MB memory
>>Win3.1 tests run on: 386/40; Tseng ET4000 VGA (640x480x16); 8 MB memory

>You have got to be kidding!  You put a 386 16MHz with IBM VGA up against
>a 386-40 with ET4000?  Don't you think this test is a little biased?  I
>am surprised OS/2 did so well considering the large differential in 
>hardware.  Come on, let's compare apples to apples - put OS/2 on the 386/40
>and *then* do some tests.

I am not particularly concerned with the CPU, but the peripherals and setup.

PS/2 MCA vs 386 ISA;
Math co-processor vs none;(since Windows is designed for device indep, I would
                           think it uses floating point calculation for device
                           coordinates.  Think about why QuickDraw on the Mac
                           is so fast, because it limits to +/-32k for screen
                           coordinates and uses integer only)
different VGA card;(maybe)
RAM speed the same?;
disk speed and file structure;
RAM/disk cache;

It might turn out that the PS/2 is actually a faster machine overall!

Just a few thoughts, no comment on the benchmark results.


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From: bgm@cray.com (Bert Moshier)
Subject: Re: I give up!
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:25:40 CDT

In article <JOHN.92Apr1211401@utafll.utafll.uta.edu> john@utafll.uta.edu (John Baima) writes:
>In article <1992Apr1.224253.25970@news.nd.edu> bgates@microsoft.com ($2e9 man) writes:
>
>   From: bgates@microsoft.com ($2e9 man)
>                               ^^^^^^^^
>   William Gates
>   -- Certainly a Microsoft Spokesman 
>---------------------------------------
>Hey, I like that, honest--from a $2e4 man :-)
>
>This must be a 1 Ap joke, no? OS/2 3.0 yes?!? No. Well, it ought to
>keep us flapping about it here for awhile!!!
>--
>John Baima                         Silver Mountain Software   
>john@utafll.uta.edu                7246 Cloverglen Dr. Dallas TX 75249
>
>I use Windows every day. My company makes money off of Windows and not
>a dime off of OS/2. So which one do I like?

Just wondering .... Has anyone tried using the address and seeing if
"microsoft.com" bounces it.  Maybe it is a valid address?

Bert Moshier
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: karu@nevada.edu (N.H.A. KARUNARANTE)
Subject: Re: FOREX chipset & OS/2 GA
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 16:29:50 GMT

In article <70430@ut-emx.uucp> mo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mohit Goyal) writes:
>
> Hello.  I am considering buying a motherboard(386-40) that has a FOREX
>chipset on it.  The BIOS is AMI, and is dated 7-7-91.  I would like to 
>know if their are any problems with the FOREX chipset and OS/2 GA, as I
>plan on running OS/2 2.0 exclusively on my system.  Thanks.
>
Mohit,
I am running GA on a machine equipped with a 386-40 with a Forex chip
set and AMI bios dated 7-7-91 with no problems.
Karu.


karu@nevada.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rm3@ornl.gov (MCBROOM R C)
Subject: Re: Tape Backup ?
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:00:37 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.095846.11135@rose.uucp> bill.dehaan@rose.uucp (bill dehaan) writes:
>
>I have. It's part of the 2.0 operating system. In fact, I have a  number
>of Rexx execs which traverse the disk and generate an archive file which
>contains all of the EAs in a  FAT file, so the tape software *can*  back
>up EAs for the FAT disk. Likewise,  I have another set of Rexx execs  to
>restore the EAs from the archive file.
>
>Not painless, but  workable. Still, I  will happy when  Colorado finally
>supports OS/2 directly, and I don't have to jump through these hoops any
>more.
>
>----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------
>Deus Ex Machina                   | Internet:   bill.dehaan@rose.uucp
>Software Consulting and Gator Pit | Usenet  :   bill.dehaan%canrem@uunet.ca
>----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------

Bill Could you send those exec's to an archive somewhere.  You could probably
pick up some shareware $$$ reak quick.

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From: sridhar@cs.scarolina.edu (M. A. Sridhar)
Subject: About DOS windows in OS/2 2.0..... (help please)
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 13 Apr 92 00:55:42 GMT




I just installed OS/2 2.0 on my Tangent 486 computer, and it's wonderful!
There's just one thing I'd like to know. I'd like to run my display in 1024x768
mode, and I have an Orchid Prodesigner IIs card. So I copied a DLL from the
Orchid BBS to my machine, and replaced \os2\dll\display.dll with their version.
Trouble is, my DOS and OS/2 box windows have extremely small font as a result,
and the Font size menu item only provides two choices -- 8x8 and 14x8 pixels.
Even the 14x8 is far too small. I noticed that in the resolution provided by
the default DISPLAY.DLL that came with OS/2 there were more choices.

My question is: How do I set it up so that I can use larger fonts in the DOS
and OS/2 boxes? I tried the drag from the font palette, but that doesn't seem
to affect the font in the DOS box window. Ideally, I should be able to use any
of the fonts available for the PM objects in the DOS box -- in particular,
Courier would be nice, so that I can make it look just like an xterm!

Oh, and while we are at it, is there any way to attach scroll bars to the DOS
and OS/2 boxes so that I can scroll back? Can I cut and paste between the
boxes? (I'm asking for all the stuff one can do under X, aren't I? :-)

Thanks in advance.

Sridhar
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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 07:31:57 CST
From: gthome@ausvm1.VNET.IBM.COM
Subject: Re: Microsoft wins
Reply-To: gthome@ausvm1.VNET.IBM.COM
Organization: IBM - Austin
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 2.0
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc

06.03.92.13.04.41"@clarkson.edu>
            <1992Apr6.131754.11708@cis.ohio-state.edu>

In <1992Apr6.131754.11708@cis.ohio-state.edu> frank michael cooper writes:
>In article <"barnacle.e.489:06.03.92.13.04.41"@clarkson.edu> gthome@ausvm1.VNET.IBM.COM writes:
>>In <1992Apr6.123648.10528@cis.ohio-state.edu> frank michael cooper writes:
>>>In article <6APR199200454278@venus.tamu.edu> tcf9033@venus.tamu.edu (FREY, TONY C) writes:
>
>>>I work for an OEM.  I convinced them to get a hold of IBM and start making
>>>an OS/2 bundle available.  Apparently they were given the cold shoulder by
>>>IBM, BUT if they were to send several thousand dollars worth of machines
>>>down to Boca (I think 6 of every model which they produce if I remember
>>>correctly), they would make the list of compatible machines.  NOT EVEN be
>>>certified as an OEM.
>>>
>>>So, the question is why is IBM turning down such an opportunity to really
>>>make OS/2 move and shake in the computer industry.  They're holding all of
>>>the marbles, and being rather stingy and tenative with them....
>>>
>
>>IBM has been trying to get PC makers to bundle 2.0 with their PCs.  I don't
>>know any details of any agreements, but 2.0 will be bundled with PCs from
>>OEM suppliers.
>
>I don't know where you got this information, but let me pose another question
>given this information.
>
>If IBM was/is trying to get PC makers to bundle 2.0 with their PC's,
>wouldn't:
>
>   1)  **** IBM ***** be calling PC makers, not PC makers having to
>            call IBM for basic information on this bundling?
>
>   2)  IBM make it easier/more enticing for these PC makers?
>
>
>
>Mike
>--
>==============================================================================
>Mike Cooper                                       Sysop, The Ultimex BBS
>The Ohio State University                         (614) 846-2360 @ 14400 v32bis
>cooper@cis.ohio.state.edu                         SIMTEL20 CD ROM Online
>
Mike

1) Yes.  Is being done, to the best of my knowledge.
2) Yes.  Is being done, to the best of my knowledge.

IBM is doing everything it can to make OS/2 2.0 a success.  Most of the
things that we are doing are new to IBM.   We are in virgin waters here.
IBM is working hard to make many things happen, including bundling of
software with PCs.  Of course, bundling IBM software with OEM PCs for the
first time is no excuse for being slow.

The idea of bundling 2.0 with OEM machines has been bouncing around IBM for
some time now.

Gerry Thome
IBM - Austin
From: pebly@VNET.IBM.COM (Bob Pebly)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: swap disks for os/2
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:56:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucbvax.9204091954.AA03726
Reply-To: pebly@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Industrial Sector Division, Boca Raton, FL

In <1992Apr09.175811.24551@convex.com> Andrew Bros <bros@convex.COM> writes:
>  Any advice on how large a partition to make?  I have a 120Mb hard
>drive, and I could afford a 20Mb partition for swap.  Is that about
>the right ballpark?  (Coming from a unix background, it sounds about
>right :-))
>
>  I was also wondering about the effect of putting a swap partition at
>the end of a hard disk.  Do the gains from keeping a contiguous swap
>outweigh the longer seeks that it will cause?  I only have one hard
>drive (ESDI), so I can't put the swap on a second drive.

  After a little more digging into past discussions on the subject,
  I've found the following:
      The swapper rule of thumb is:
        Place the swapper file on the most accessed partition on
        the least accessed disk.
  The reasoning was that the seek times would outweigh the fragmentation
  unless it was very severe fragmentation on a large FAT drive.  If
  possible, put the swap file on an HPFS partition.  If you only have
  one physical file in the system, it turns out that a separate swapper
  partition isn't so great because the disk heads will almost always have
  a longer seek time to get to that partition.

Bob Pebly

Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's view, not those of IBM.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: leungc@bullet.ecf.toronto.edu (LEUNG  Chiu Tung Lysander)
Subject: Couldn't get dos command prompt going with GA
Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA
Distribution: ont
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 05:14:00 GMT



Just got the OS/2 GA and installed it. everthing went fine during the installation. But after the installation was finshed, I tried to open the dos box, it just gave me sys 3176 error. if you type help 3176 in a os2 box, it will explain you what is the problem,, it said invalid code was executed.. 
I have clone with AMI BIOS date 1991/05/09 and it is 386-33 , 64kcache, Future domain 1680 SCSI controller card and 670 microscience SCSI drive.. 8 meg RAM..
I tried to reinstall it several times with FAT or HPFS, same thing happened!..
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE TV ADS, WHERE ARE THE BANNERS IN STORES, WHERE IS THE MEDIA BLITZ???
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:10:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <12013@ns-mx.uiowa.edu> jsvec@umaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu (Joe Svec) writes:
>Something that popped in my mind last night while watch TV was that most people
>in this country (who watch TV) know more about the virtues of KRAFT MIRICLE
>WHIP than they do about OS/2!

Not to insult anyone, but most people who watch that much TV probably
care more about their Miracle Whip than about computers.  I know I
only watch three TV shows a week (aside from the News): Dr. Who, Star
Trek, and LA Law.



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From: atoenne@mpii02000.cs.uni-sb.de (Andreas Toenne)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: DeskJet too slow
Keywords: Oh no! He's doing it again
Date: 8 Apr 92 08:37:19 GMT
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Informatik


Howdy

Last night I tried to use Word for Windoze under OS/2, 304e beta.
Printing seems to be crawling (15 minutes per page :-(.
I use a HP DeskJet 500. How do I speed up printing ?

The same happened when I tried to print the REXX online docs.
There is a checkbox for printing in graphics (nice) mode.
Checking it stops printing instantly.

What's going on ?

	Andreas
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From: 880506s@aucs.acadiau.ca (James R. Skinner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 command shells
Date: 13 Apr 92 03:00:58 GMT
Organization: Acadia University


	I am trying to make a list of all the shells currently 
avaliable for OS/2 and this is what I have been able to come up
with:

	CMD.EXE ( the standard OS/2 command shell )
	SH.EXE  ( the Bourne shell port )
        CSH     ( the Hamilton version )
        4OS2    ( the equivelent to 4DOS )

Does anybody know of any that I have overlooked?


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: dano@usl.edu (Dan Stephenson)
Subject: Some OS/2 2.0 Questions:
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:02:22 GMT

1) I have several BIG MSDOS games, such as Wing Commander II and Falcon
3.0.
   How well will these work under the MSDOS for OS/2 2.0?

2) If I plan to get Stacker, willl it work with OS/2 2.0, or does OS/2
2.0 come
with a hard disk compression utility.

3) CAN I run full-up VGA MSDOS (games) in an OS/2 2.0 MSDOS window? Of
course,
   some will surely be obscured,...but still,...

4) Will the OS/2 2.0 I get be absolutely, postively, in *every* single
facet be
32-bit- ALL THE WAY??

5) Windows applications will run _relly_ well on the OS/2 2.0 desktop??

6) I just read the OS/2 FAQ, and the Applets for OS/2 2.0 do not
obviously conta
in a Word Processor.  An 'enhanced text editor' is mentioned, though.
But,
if Windows applications are supported 'seamlessly' , then I guess I can
keep usi
ng Write, right?

7) Is there a 800 help line for OS/2 (2.0) ??

8) If I eventually get a SoundBlaster Pro (etc) for my 386, will MSDOS
games
using it (under OS/2 2.0) use the sound card just fine?

[BTW, thanks again- I know a ot of these are MSDOS/Window and not OS/2
related-
but that's inportant to me right now]

9) What in the hell is with all these fonts?  I gather it's
important--for somet
hing?  Scalable fonts? huh?

10) Can I have a bitmap (.bmp, like from Windows) as a 'wallpaper'?

11) With this HPFS thing, I can files called:
my.term.paperduenextfriday.01
    or something like that? What limit is there?

Whee!!

Thanks zillions !

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 do something greedy, and every time I think I am a Democrat, to go and
do someting stupid." - Jay Leno from _60 Minutes_ interview 3/15/1992
From: josephc@cco.caltech.edu (Joseph Chiu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Key equivalents
Date: 13 Apr 92 01:36:03 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena

liggio@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Vincent J. Liggio) writes:


>	I was wondering why  IBM decided to go  with the inane key  strokes
>for cut and paste that exist on  Windoze...   I do not think that Shft-Ins,
>Ctrl-Ins, and Shft-Del are very intuitive.  Why not go  with using the good
>old alt key (a la NeXT/Mac fame)...
>	Are these keys remappable (for all apps as well), since I can never
>remember the Windows sequence for more than a week.  Why didn't they make a
>new one for WPS, and then if the user decided to go with the  Win WPS look,
>then the other key equivs would work instead?

What I really miss on non-Macintosh GUI's are the (almost) standard use
of Command (Squiggle Key) +  Z, X, C, and V for Undo, Cut, Copy, and Insert...  
By fortune of coincidence, those keys are perfectly placed for a quick
one-handed operation...  And the key labeling makes intuitive sense, too!

Look at the keyboard...  They are nicely located in an easy-to-reach cluster!
Drag-and-highlight with the mouse in the right hand, cut and paste with the
keys on the left...   

This is one ergonomic feature I sorely miss in Windows (and OS/2 when I get
it, I assume...)



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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: smsmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephen M Smith)
Subject: Re: TV advertising
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:49:00 GMT

bill.dehaan@rose.uucp (bill dehaan) writes:
>
>To shut
>down the offending Window (or DOS, or OS/2) application, you have to  go
>to the system pulldown, and select Close.

In the systems popup menu you can close an app by clicking on its
name with MB2 (each name in the running apps list has its own little
popup menu), then choose "close" which is right next to the mouse
cursor.  This saves an extra trip to the pulldown menu on the main
systems popup menu.  Got that?  :-)
From: bgm@cray.com (Bert Moshier)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Egghead
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:53:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: hemlock.1992Apr8.155309.17322
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.

In article <1992Apr8.032601.9183@leland.Stanford.EDU> mdknight@leland.Stanford.EDU (Milton Albert Snyder) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.054015.9055@muddcs.claremont.edu> ddulay@jarthur.claremont.edu (Dan Dulay) writes:
>>	I visited the local Egghead store last Saturday and was told there
>>that very few Egghead retail outlets are planning to carry OS/2 2.0.  This
>>store is one which is not going to be carrying it, but, the salesman told 
>>me, the Egghead wherehouse would be carrying OS/2 and I should call them 
>>@ 1-800-egghead.  @ this phone # the operator told me that Egghead didn't
>>know pricing, its upgrade policy, or when it would recieve its first
>>shipment of OS/2.  I've given up w/ the retail channel, but unless IBM
>>does something to support the retail channel it will lose a lot of sales.
>>I think that IBM shouldn't have bothered w/ GA on 3/31 since it's almost
>>impossible to get the product until the end of this month.  Does anyone 
>>agree w/ me on this?
>>
>>							DDulay
>
>Egghead told me that they probably would not carry OS/2 2.0 because
>they could NOT SELL IT FOR A PROFIT.  They stated that IBM would not
>give them any better pricing than anyone else who called 1-800-3IBMOS2
>so they would have to sell it for more than IBM does.
>
>Skip.

Very interesting .... mmmmm .....

The Corner Store in Litchfield CT is selling it at a price lower than IBM.
I don't have the phone number.  Information should have it.

BTW, according the Doug Hamilton's column in OS/2 Monthly Magazine
(second issue) IBM sold 3,000,000 copies of OS/2 to distributers
who will then sell them at the retail level.
 
I don't know where he got his figures.  Maybe I am misreading his article.
Anyone else with the magazine care to comment?

Bert Moshier
From: smithr@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Rick Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Windows as an OS Again
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:33:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.44641
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <ballard.702835117@stilton.ucs.ubc.ca> ballard@ucs.ubc.ca (Alan Ballard) writes:
>I think there is a bug in GA that might have shown up here.  Several
>times, I've double clicked on an app, but "nothibng happenned".  If I
>look at the task list at this point, I find the app WAS started, but
>its window is hidden... clicking on the task list brings it up. 
>
>It isn't reproducible, and hasn't happened enough for me to get a
>handle on when it occurs.  Never saw it before GA either. 
>
>Don't know if this is what happened during the comdex demo, but I hope
>IBM are investigating.... there is definitely a bug there somewhere. 
>
> 
>-- 
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I have had the same thing happen to me several times,  double click on an app
and nothing, but in the task list running.  This never happened using
177 or 304.  I will say that when windows are closed with a double click
in GA that they are closed immediately without the menus emulating a pull
down.

Rick Smith


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