From: holmes7000@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.video.arcade
Subject: Re: MK: Cage's nut punch & Which is the best player?
Date: 16 Dec 92 12:13:29 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Dec15.135217.778@whscdp.whs.edu>, stdnt171@whscdp.whs.edu writes:
> In article <roycel.724375229@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU>, roycel@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Royce Lithgo) writes:
>> I tried playing cage for the first time last night.  I loved his slide
>> kick, but couldn't get the hang of the nut punch - I was unable  to hit the
>> opponent - and instead kept getting hit myself!  When should you strike with
>> this move??
>> 
> 
> 	This move is really hard to use against the computer or against
> experienced players.  I wouldn't bother much with it.

Jump in over they're throw then give it to him.  Make sure you land right next
to them and block right afterward.  It's stupid though because you could do a
upercut just as easy, but it really cool to see, especially with Liu Kang.
 
>> I also tried playing Sonya - I loved her leg throw, but again couldn't get
>> the hang of the high punch thing that she does!
>> 
 
> Just wiggle the stick back and forth and hit HP repeatedly.

One foward then back with a HP will do it.  It's very hard to time it when you
just wiggle the joystick.
 
>> Until last night,  I had always been playing Raiden, but have been unable
>> to progress past the 5 fight (so I tried Sonya & Cage).  Can anybody give me
>> some combat advice for Raiden?  Also I am interested in peoples opinions as
>> to which player they think is best and why.  I would really like to get past
>> the fifth level one day!
>> 
> 
> I play Raiden and can get up to Goro.  Here's how I deal with each player:
> 
> Cage:
> 	Two techniques for him, both really simple.  He is a really good
> charater to use the flying attack on, because you can knock him out of any of
> his three special moves with it.  Simply fly, if he blocks, he'll throw a
> snot-ball at you.  Duck under it as soon as you land, then fly again.  If a
> flying attack hits, do it again as soon asyou land.  Repeat until he's dead.
> 	The second technique works quite well and was discovered by my
> 5-year-old brother.  As soon as the match starts, jump straight up and LP as
> you're coming down.  Just keep doing this.  He'll walk right into most of 'em,
> and Snot-balls will usually fly right under you.  Eventually, he'll use his
> shadow kick.  If he hits you with it just get up and start jumping again.  If
> he misses you, wail on him with LPs as soon as you land, then start jumping
> again.
> 
> Kano:
> 	DO NOT FLY at him.  He will simply block and ball attack you.  Teleport
> and start wailing on him with LPs.  Keep it up until he staggers backwards,
> then immediately teleport back to the other side and beat some more crap out of
> him.  If he ball attacks, just block it and high kick (sure hit).  Keep
> teleporting back and forth.  If he happens to duck under your punches, this
> means he's going to try to uppercut you.  Just keep punching and he won't be
> able to.
> 
> Liu Kang:
> 	DO NOT FLY at him either.  He will simply block and flying kick you. 
> My technique against him can be used by just about any character, against just
> about any charater.  Duck under any fire balls, and block and HK any flying
> kicks (another sure hit).  When he's walking toward you, backflip.  Keep
> backflipping until you're against the wall, and continue while you're there. 
> As he approaches you start thowing kicks as you're coming down from your back
> flips, he will block them for a while (keep in mind, if he blocks a jump kick,
> you will have just enough time to jump back into the air before he attacks
> you), eventually, he'll make a mistake, and your jump kick will hit.  At this
> point, stand and block while he gets up.  If he fire-balls you duck under him,
> If he flying-kicks you, block then HK, if he starts moving toward you, start
> flipping against the wall again.
> 
> Scorpion:
> 	For him, practice your timing, so you can fly repeatedly (i.e. As son
> as you land from hitting with a flying attack, you can fly again immediatel.
> Push back twice, while you're in the air, then push forward just as you touch
> down again.)  Keep trying to fly attack him.  If he blocks, duck under his
> harpoon.  If you hit him, start flying repeatedly.  If your timing is right,
> you should keep flying under his harpoon, however, if you are a fraction of a
> second off, his harpoon will hit, and you'll get a close look at the sky as he
> uppercuts you.  With good timing, you should be able to keep ramming him until
> he's dead.

On ours if he blocks your dive, you automatically get hit with the harpoon. 
There's no way to block it.  Liu Kang will do the flying kick, Sub Zero will
freeze you, Sonya's and Cage's throw will hit you, Cage will ball you, all
these happen every time you miss after the second or third character.  You also
rarely will get a hit in past the third guy unless you catch them jumping or
doing a throw.  
 
> Sub Zero:
> 	If you encounter him early in the game (one of the first three
> matches), he's easy, just fly attack him (watch out for his freeze, though). 
> If you hit, jumpkick.  From there on out, keep alternating, fly, jump kick,
> fly, etc.
> 	If you encounter him later in the game, use the backflip technique that
> I described for Liu Kang.

After you knock any of characters down, try to time a throw in.  It hits about
90% for me.
 
> Sonya:
> 	Very easy.  The one thing you have to watch out for is her rings.  Wait
> until she's not throwing her rings then do this:  Fly at her.  If it hits,
> great, do it again.  If she blocks, she'll do a flying punch immediately. 
> Simply crouch when you land, and as she's coming down from her flying punch,
> uppercut her.  Then repeat the process.
> 
> Raiden:
> 	For the mirror match with raiden, use the same technique I described
> for Scorpion.  Once again, if your timing is right, you'll keep flying under
> his lightning.
> 
> Endurrance Matches:
> 	Use whichever technique works for whichever character you're fighting,
> if you get desperate, on any specific character, try the backflip against the
> wall technique.  A good idea when fighting the Scorpion as the second enemy in
> an endurance match, is to fly attack him as soon as he jumps on to the screen. 
> He won't block and you can get going on your repeated flying technique.
> 
> Goro:
> 	I can not beat Goro with Raiden.  The easiest way I know to beat Goro
> is to use Scorpion and repeated ly harpoon him.  If you are persistant and do
> it fast enough, Goro doesn't stand a chance.

Have a throwing battle.  Raiden is superfast at the lightning just like Ryu. 
Try to duck his shots or jump kick him over them.  If you knock him down,
lightning him as he stands up then jump back.  With Sub-Zero jumpkick then
freeze, upercut, (Don't slide it takes too long to recover), freeze again
IMEDIATLEY.  It'll freeze him before he can do anything or sometimes even
before he can stand up.  With all the characters, during the 2 & 3 match, when
you got distance, let him walk up to you.  He should stop right in front of
you, then jump kick then jump back, repeat.  Don't jump before he stops or
he'll block it.  Works on two different versions that I know of.
 
> Shang Tsung:
> 	Haven't beaten him yet.  I would suggest usiong Raiden, because he can
> fly under Shang's multiple fire-balls.

If you got to him without luck, he shouldn't be a problem.  If you want to get
past him just to beat the machine once, use scorpion.  Wait untill he is in his
original form then teleport punch him.  He'll float back to the other side of
the screen then do it again.  Out of the hundreds of times that I've used the
move, its hit 100% of the time.  Everytime.  
 
>> Thanks,
> 
> Welcomes
> 
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