From: seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian)
Subject: Re: Shahrokh and his Modda'i
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 05:40:40 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.164019.29565@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb) writes:


> OK, so Shahrokh made a mistake (in my opinion). Why does that bother you?
> Are you so holly that you have never made any errors? What we do and what
> we say, simply represents what we are, and what kind of beliefs we have, 
> and what approaches we take to understanding issues. He chooses to express himself
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> in whatever manner. I think he has the right to say what he wants to say.
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Then I choose also to express myself in whatever manner, and I also reserve
the right to say what I want. Now what's the problem? If you think that this
is not friendly and you don't like it, then start a friendly one: apologize
to Babak Sehari and others for the insults you have posted.

> If *YOU* had a strong argument, you should be able to convince him of your
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> point of view. But apparently you can't and that bothers you. Well, it bothers
> me too. So I will not get into an argument with him, until the day I am 
> positive that I am strong enough to convince him. Meanwhile, he can think and
> say and do what he wants. I will not let it bother me. I thought what he
> did was uncalled for. But that is *my* opinion and nobody has to agree with it.

If he was "reasoning" then it was a different problem. But he is just playing
the role of a "joker". How can one convince a joker like him?

Seyyed.


SHAHROKH MORTAZAVI writes:

> a while back there was a dicussion on how various words in farsi
> and english have the same roots, or sound the same, etc.
> 
> i wrote
> 
> >             FArsi                          Farangi
> >>-------------------------------         ----------------------
> >            bad                              bad
> >            piyaade                          pied, pedestrian, etc
> >            lab                              lip
> >            salamandar                       salamander
> >            setaare                          star
> >       1)   amorzesh                         mort, mortuary, etc
> >            ^^^^^^^^                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >            abroo                            eye brow
> >       2)   es'haal                          speed reading
> >            ^^^^^^^                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> >shahrokh
> >            
> >             
> 
> which brought you out of hybernation, and without any provocation
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> whatsoever, you restarted your attacks:
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Did you think that your insults toward other Moslems and Islam will be
unanswered? I promise this is the LEAST you are going to get.

> 
> >1) Khodaa nayaamorzad aan kassi raa ke be to Faarsi yaad daad.
> 
> well seyyed joon, if you dont think the words amorzeedan, amorzesh, mort,
> mortuary, morgue, mortal, amortize, etc are related, then read this
> and _suffocate_:
> 
> 	Amorzesh: Az peeshvande "A" be-ma'neeyeh "bedooneh va bee" be
> 	ezaafeyeh "marz" be ma'neeyeh "marg" ke az massdareh "morzeedan"
>         be ma'neeyeh mordan ast tashkeel yaafteh.  Vajehaayeh "marg" va
>         "modan" neez az hameen vaajeh ast.  Hamcheneen vaajehayeh "mortal",
>         va "immortal" va "morgue" va ... va ... engeleesee az een 
>   	reeshe ast.

Not only you are a real "bi-savAd", but you are also a big liar and an 
absolutely unreliable worthless man. Let me refresh your memory with one
of your previous posts:

> >From eclnews!wupost!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!ames!sun-barr!male.EBay.Sun.COM!exodus.Eng.Sun.COM!handel.Eng.Sun.COM!smortaz Fri Mar 27 23:08:12 CST 1992
> Article: 50855 of soc.culture.iranian
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> From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
> Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
> Subject: Re: News Flash: Nike goes to Iran
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> Date: 28 Mar 92 00:18:39 GMT
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> 
> In article <ksfpqfINNmmo@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi) writes:
> >
> >   Los Angeles Times, Wed, March 18th.
> >
> >	TEHRAN, IRAN -- Nike Corporation, Inc of United
> >   States has opened its first of three large-scale factories
> >   just outside of Tehran.  The factory will reportedly produce
> >   25,000 pairs of athletic and walking shoes per month.
> >   In addition, various other merchandise such as sox,
> >   T-shirts, visors and tote-bags will also be
> >   manufactured.  The company's president and CEO, Kah
> >   Fasch stated "This marks the rebirth of direct economic
> >   ties with Iran.  Armed with Nike's 'Just Do It' attitude,
> >   we conquered all political obstacles and acheived our goal".
> >
> >   In a related story, Nike has mysteriously stopped shipment on over
> >   $5,000,000 worth of promotional merchandise destined for Iran.
> >   Unnamed sources from within the company say that Nike of America
> >   had decided to use its "Just Do It!" slogan in Iran and had
> >   printed it on all its promotional merchandise.  In order to
> >   surprise its Iranian distributor, Nike apparently did the
> >   translation itself, using a dictionary.  Due to undisclosed
> >   reasons, the huge invetory, all of which displayed the slogan
> >   "Faghat Bokon!" in distinctive colors and styles was flatly 
> >   refused by the Iranian officials.
> >
> 
> well... since these days confessions are fashionable, i suppose i
> should come out and say that the above story which was posted a while
> back was only a joke too...  los angeles times did not print it!
> apparently many people have taken this quite seriously!
> 
> actually it was meant to be a parody on Amir Taghavi's (hi amir!) news
> articles which appear regulary and in the above style...  i thot 
> naming the CEO of Nike shoe comany 'Kah Fash' (as in kafaash!) was 
> a clear enough hint!

By the way, please look up in your magic persian dictionary for the word 
"salamandar" too. I thought you meant "samandar", but now that you have 
such a wonderful dictionary, maybe you can find a meaning for "salamandar" 
too.

> oh yes, and regarding 
> 
> >       2)   es'haal                          speed reading
> 
> you said:
> 
> >2) There is a proverb which says: "Before saying something, turn it
> >   seven times in your mouth".
> 
>                                                       ....  in fact, im
> sure you didnt even get the underlying joke.
> 

I am also sure that you didn't get the underlying meaning of my answer !!!!!!

Seyyed.
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