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From: mchenry@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: comp.org.acm
Subject: where can I find programmers?
Date: 15 Oct 92 11:05:28 -0400
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

REQUEST FOR PROGRAMMER

Dear Friends,
I have been asked by a friend to find a programmer who could write software 
for a convenience store POS (point of sale) system that would automate 
checkouts for most customers. Can you direct me to any assoications or 
other places in the Washington DC area, any place that I can direct her 
from where she could find out about available, reliable programmers?

Thanks.

Bill McHenry
Georgetown University
mchenry@guvax (bitnet)
mchenry@guvax.georgetown.edu 

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Organization: University of Arizona Student Information & Research Services
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Date:         Sat, 10 Oct 1992 18:47:20 MST
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From:         Michael Allen Clore <CLORE@ACM.ORG>
Subject:      Re:

On Sat, 10 Oct 92 18:19:26 MST Michael Allen Clore said:
>
>Tee shirts have come up before too, but I forget when.  The listserver
>also has search capablilities, so ...
>I think Old Dioinion had a nice tee shirt last year.  They showed it off
>at the Big Event.

That's Old Dominion (it didn't look like that in my editor:)

Michael Allen Clore           |Internet: clore@acm.org  Phone:(602) 621-8541
  Southern Arizona ACM, Chair |"It is unworthy of excellent (people) to lose
  ACM-NS Information Project  | hours like slaves in the labor of calculation"
  Univ. of Arizona, Analyst   |-Baron Gottfried Wilhelm Von Leibniz(1646-1716)
From: rsc@altair.csustan.edu (Steve Cunningham)
Newsgroups: comp.org.acm
Subject: Re: TOG / SIGGRAPH comparisons wanted
Summary: Comparison of Transactions with Proceedings
Keywords: TOG, SIGGRAPH
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:05:34 GMT
Organization: California State University, Stanislaus

In <Bw2Hq3.9IJ@metaflow.com>, rschnapp@metaflow.com (Russ Schnapp) says:

> |> Is it purely a historical reason that the ACM publishes its Transactions
> |> separately from the SIGs or are there other reasons?
> 
> SIG newsletters and Transactions journals have two, completely
> different purposes.  The newsletters contain unrefereed papers as well
> as SIG administrative matters.  The Transactions are official,
> refereed, scientific journals.  If you see a paper in Computer
> Graphics, you can use its results, but remember that it has not been
> peer-reviewed.  Ostensibly, you were able to gain access to the paper
> that much sooner, since the review process can be lengthy.  Papers in
> Transactions carry more weight, since they have been reviewed, but take
> correspondingly longer to see print.  My understanding is that as far
> as academic "publishing" is concerned, in most universities, only
> peer-reviewed journals count.

This is certainly true of the non-conference issues of Computer Graphics,
though SIGGRAPH does more "filtering" (to avoid calling it refereeing) of
articles than do some SIGs, I think.  But the annual SIGGRAPH conference
proceedings, which appears as an issue of Computer Graphics, is still
referred to as *the* premier research publication in computer graphics.
I believe the original question in this thread came from someone wanting
to compare TOG with the conference proceedings.

But there's another point here -- SIGs are perfectly capable of publishing
other things besides newsletters, and this writer seems to question why
the Transactions publications are done by ACM without SIG involvement.
This is a good question, but I'm not able to answer it.  Anyone really
know?

-- Steve Cunningham
Newsgroups: comp.org.acm
From: cmo@karadagh.cs.odu.edu (Mike Overstreet)
Subject: SIGSIM Newsletter
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, Va
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 23:46:07 GMT

The recent post about SIGGRAPH prompted this note.  The newsletter
of SIGSIM, Simulation Digest, has been delayed for several reasons
(one is budget, but others had to due with unexpected personal and
professional responsibilities of the people preparing the newsletter).
However the good news is that two issues are now at ACM headquarters
and should be mailed to members shortly.  Included is a more complete
explanation of the delay and a solication for submissions to Simulation
Digest.

Mike Overstreet
SIGSIM Chair
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:45:47 GMT
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From:         CCSYS006@CCSUVM1.BITNET

Can someone post how to sub to this list via internet?  I tried
listserv at ohstvma.bitnet but got an unknown host message.  Does
anyone know the internet number address for ohstvma?

Thanks in Advance

Gregg Henderson
ccsys006@ccsuvm1.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.org.acm
From: koseglu@eagle (Bahri Koseglu)
Subject: Need info about GDSS
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Organization: Sangamon State University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:00:24 GMT
From: lambrech@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Eric Lambrecht)
Newsgroups: comp.org.acm
Subject: Re:
Summary: Fund raisers...
Date: 8 Oct 92 01:39:45 GMT
Reply-To: lambrech@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Eric Lambrecht)
Followup-To: comp.org.acm
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ

Howdy,
 would any of you be willing to share with me some of the different ways your
local ACM chapters raise money? 

I'm vice-chair of the Arizona State University chapter, and we're brainstorming
on different ways of funding our group, along with what we're going to do for
the rest of the year and the coming year.
We are working on funding from corporations and businesses, but we'd also like
to get some interesting money-makers for such events as the ASU Engineering Day
(E-Day)... in the past the only great booth was the dunk booth, and we'd like
to find something even more interesting that could bring attention to us during
the festival...

thanks for any help...

oh yeah,
 and has anybody had any popular ACM t-shirts, or computer science t-shirts?

gracias...

Eric...
From: jayne@obelix.cs.uoregon.edu (Jayne Freda Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.org.acm
Subject: Re: acm programming contest
Keywords: acm, programming contest
Date: 14 Oct 92 06:27:54 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.

I have been e-mailing ACM officials in our local area for the programming
contest dates, info, just anything to let us know when and where it's
all happening this year...but, as yet, I've gotten no responses.
Could someone Please send me anything on the subject? 
Much thanks, jayne@oregon.uoregon.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.org.acm
Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1992 08:46:44 MST
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From:         Michael Allen Clore <CLORE@ACM.ORG>
Subject:      Re: acm programming contest
              14 Oct 1992 00:58:22 GMT from <lambrech@ENUXHB.EAS.ASU.EDU>

On Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:58:22 GMT you said:
>If anybody out there has some tried and proven (or even not proven) programmin
>questions that they have used in previous computer programming contests, or
>that they are using in their local contest before sending the winners on to
>big ACM contest, would you mind mailing us a few of them?

There is an archive of programming contest problems available
via anonymous ftp to archive.fiu.edu in the pub/acm directory.
This archive was put together by Florida International University.

Regards,
Michael Allen Clore           |Internet: clore@acm.org  Phone:(602) 621-8541
  Southern Arizona ACM, Chair |"It is unworthy of excellent (people) to lose
  ACM-NS Information Project  | hours like slaves in the labor of calculation"
  Univ. of Arizona, Analyst   |-Baron Gottfried Wilhelm Von Leibniz(1646-1716)
Newsgroups: comp.org.acm
From: dennisk@access.digex.com (dennisk)
Subject: ESA/ESOC ORATOS Project
Summary: e-mail address sought of authors of ESA bulletin paper on ORATOS 
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 02:32:08 GMT

I am attempting to contact authors of a paper presented in the
ESA Bulletin concerning the ORATOS project. My group has tried hard-copy
but with no success. The authors are associated with ESA/ESOC. The authors 
are F. Dreger and J. Fertig. They are with the Orbit and Attitude
Division in Dramstadt, Germany.
Can anyone assist? Since ACM is now in an office in Europe, perhaps some
assistance can be provided?? Thank you...
Newsgroups: comp.org.acm
Subject: Re: TOG / SIGGRAPH comparisons wanted
From: rsc@altair.csustan.edu (Steve Cunningham)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 05:24:47 GMT
Organization: California State University, Stanislaus
Keywords: TOG, SIGGRAPH
Summary: Apples and oranges -- why not take both?

In <1992Oct8.030059.24205@unlinfo.unl.edu>, bvh@cse.unl.edu (Ben Hollingsworth)
   asks:

> I've got a question:
> 
> I've been thinking of subscribing to one of the ACM's graphics groups,
> and was wondering what the difference was between Transactions on Graphics
> (TOG) and SIGGRAPH.  I know a little about SIGGRAPH, but virtually nothing
> about TOG.  Which one's better?

Well, TOG (ACM's Transactions on Graphics) is a formal research journal,
issued several times a year, and available by subscription from ACM.
SIGGRAPH is an ACM special interest group that you join; your membership
gets you the newsletter, Computer Graphics (which we are doing quite a lot
with, so it is beginning to contain some very good expository articles --
but then I'm hardly unbiased!) as well as the Proceedings of the annual
SIGGRAPH conference (45 research articles in 1992, and probably the best
single graphics publication in the world (again, I'm not unbiased).  Since
the journal and the conference proceedings are complementary, I'd strongly
suggest that anyone seriously interested in graphics should have both --
that is, should both subscribe to TOG *and* join SIGGRAPH.

-- Steve Cunningham
   SIGGRAPH director for publications
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:06:30 -0400
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From:         Ron Whittle <CSCRDW%CURIE@EPAVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: ACM Listserver

> I am trying to subscribe our local ACM chapter e-mail id, to the
> ACM student chapter listserver.  However the one address I got turned
> out to be invalid.  i.e. here is what/how I mailed:
>
> To: acmstchp@suvm.acs.syr.edu
> Subject: subscribe
>
> SUBSCRIBE ACMSTCHP Mi.St.Univ.
>
>
> Does anyone have the correct address?  I assume the other information is
> correct.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> ---- Cris J H

Try sending it to LISTSERV@suvm.acs.syr.edu


Ron

cscrdw%curie@epavax.rtpnc.epa.gov
whittrd@eng.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.org.acm
From: rschnapp@metaflow.com (Russ Schnapp)
Subject: Re: Raising money
Organization: Metaflow Technologies Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:57:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.013945.14775@ennews.eas.asu.edu>, lambrech@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Eric Lambrecht) writes:
|> Howdy,
|>  would any of you be willing to share with me some of the different ways your
|> local ACM chapters raise money? 

Well, our chapter (San Diego) is probably not the best example of creative
money-raising.  We charge a nominal fee ($10 per year) for our newsletter,
which basically covers expenses with a little bit left over.

The Chapters handbook recommends holding Professional Development Seminars,
both as a money-raising vehicle, as a benefit to the community, and as a way
of increasing the Chapter's visibility to the community.  For various reasons, our
chapter has never held a PDS.  We simply don't have enough volunteers or adequate
leadership (being the Chair, I can say that without offending anyone but myself).

Your affiliation with ASU might give you access to resources that would ease the
organization of a PDS, though.
-- 

...Russ Schnapp
BIX: rschnapp           Email: uunet!metaflow!rschnapp or rschnapp@metaflow.com
Metaflow Technologies   Voice: 619/452-6608x230;  FAX: 619/452-0401
La Jolla, California    Unless otw specified, I`m speaking only for myself!
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:45:00 EST
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From:         "Riazul from Ohio Wesleyan....." <ZRMAJID@OWUCOMCN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: test

>From:  IN%"ACM-L@OHSTVMA.BITNET"  "ACM-L List for discussing ACM; gatewayed wit
   h comp.org.acm" 14-OCT-1992 22:35:31.14
>To:    IN%"ZRMAJID@CC.OWU.EDU"  "'Riazul Majid'"
>CC:
>Subj:  test


> this is a test. please respond if you read this. Thanks.
>--
>ernie@s850.mwc.edu             uunet!s850!ernie
>Ernest C. Ackermann
>Department of Computer Science  Mary Washington College
>Fredericksburg, VA 22401-5358   703 - 899 - 4031

I read it.
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1992 16:04:18 EDT
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From:         "Rafael Salinas S." <EMSALINA@VMTECMEX.BITNET>
Subject:      Concertware

Does anyone knows where in New York City I could find music software for Mac? (
Something like Concertware). I have a friend who recently bougth a Classic II M
acintosh and wants to buy some. She is traveling to N.Y. next week and wants to
 buy it then.
   Thanks for the information.

emsalina @ vmtecmex
acm-l @ itesmvf1
Mr. Rafael Salinas Sangines
System's Ingeneer
Monterrey Institute of Technology
Newsgroups: comp.org.acm
From: rschnapp@metaflow.com (Russ Schnapp)
Subject: Re: TOG / SIGGRAPH comparisons wanted
Keywords: TOG, SIGGRAPH
Organization: Metaflow Technologies Inc.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:58:50 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.231905.7134@orbital.demon.co.uk>, steveh@orbital.demon.co.uk (Stephen Hebditch) writes:
|> Is it purely a historical reason that the ACM publishes its Transactions
|> separately from the SIGs or are there other reasons?

SIG newsletters and Transactions journals have two, completely
different purposes.  The newsletters contain unrefereed papers as well
as SIG administrative matters.  The Transactions are official,
refereed, scientific journals.  If you see a paper in Computer
Graphics, you can use its results, but remember that it has not been
peer-reviewed.  Ostensibly, you were able to gain access to the paper
that much sooner, since the review process can be lengthy.  Papers in
Transactions carry more weight, since they have been reviewed, but take
correspondingly longer to see print.  My understanding is that as far
as academic "publishing" is concerned, in most universities, only
peer-reviewed journals count.

-- 

...Russ Schnapp
BIX: rschnapp           Email: uunet!metaflow!rschnapp or rschnapp@metaflow.com
Metaflow Technologies   Voice: 619/452-6608x230;  FAX: 619/452-0401
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Newsgroups: comp.org.acm
From: rickc@agora.rain.com (Rick Coates)
Subject: Article on clipping in CACM
Keywords: source graphics clipping
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:50:27 GMT

Has anybody implemented the clipping algorithm presently recently in
Communications of the ACM?

Since I am no longer working in graphics, I can't justify work time
to implement it, but I am curious about it.  I tried contacting
the author via e-mail with no response.

Even if you're not willing to share the source, any bugs or
gotchas in the article that you found would be helpful.

Many Thanks,

Rick
rickc@agora.rain.com
Newsgroups: comp.org.decus
From: m1b@rayssd.ssd.ray.com (Barone)
Subject: CRIMLUG October Dinner Meeting
Organization: Raytheon Submarine Signal Division, Portsmouth, RI
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:20:15 GMT

                  October Meeting
                  Computer Viruses
       *** Thursday Night Dinner Meeting ***

              Thursday, 10/22, 5-9 PM
          Ramada Inn, Ri. 114, Seekonk, MA

         Meeting Coordinator: Karen Goldsmith
           (401) 455-4018  khg@math.ams.com

           Site Coordinator: Don Colebourn
                (401) 275-3000 x1317

The Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts Local Users Group (CRIMLUG)
would like to announce its Fall 1992 Dinner Meeting.  This meeting will
feature dinner and a lively presentation on computer viruses.  The
speaker is Phil Bancroft of Digital's Electronic Security Group out
of Maynard, MA.  He will discuss:

       - Symptoms
       - Detection
       - Diagnosis
       - Prognosis
       - Cure
       - Prevention

The entrees for this meeting will be a choice of roast turkey with all
the trimmings, or broiled scrod.  Hot appetizers will also be served!
The cost for the meal is $15.00.  For more information on the menu and
to reserve your selection, contact Don Colebourn at the number listed
above or Joe Barone at (401) 842-4054 or m1b@rayssd.ssd.ray.com.  Our
last dinner meeting was a great success and we hope to repeat the
experience!

Directions: Take I-195 to Route 114A (Exit 1 in Massachusetts).
The Ramada Inn is located on the south side of the junction of
I-195 and 114A.
Newsgroups: comp.org.decus
Subject: "Decus NEVER gives refunds."
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 23:13:22 -0500

It was a standard practice that when you went to a DECUS seminar, you  
paid your money and that was that.  DECUS *never* gave refunds, not
 
for anyone or for any reason.
 
 
 
Until one day someone decided to sign up under his own name, pay the  
regular price to attend and see the conferences. 
 
 
 
For some reason, as soon as it was discovered who it was, the DECUS  
organization decided to evict that particular person for prior conduct  
which they disapproved of.
 
 
 
Since he had not committed any activity at that time which would legally  
permit them to evict this person, DECUS did something they never did  
before.
 
 
 
They cancelled someone's registration and refunded their money.
 
 
 
There is an old saying that "DECUS {Never} gives refunds."  
 
 
 
Unless your name is Kevin Mitnick.
 
 
 
----
 
Paul Robinson -- TDARCOS@MCIMAIL.COM
 
 
 
  "And remember, I'm not just the Cocaine Club president,
 
   <Snort> <Snort> But I'm also a client!"



Newsgroups: comp.org.decus
From: klr@umbc4.umbc.edu (Kurt Reisler)
Subject: "The New DEXPO Seminar"
Organization: Hadron.com in exile
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 01:17:36 GMT


I find it odd that no one has mentioned the seminar flyer that DEXPO has
sent out.  I know that a few of you have received it, since I did
discuss it with members of the DECUS Canada BoD last weekend in
Vancouver.  Although DEXPO has offered "sessions" during the DEXPO
exhibition, this is the first time, to my knowledge, that they are
offering formal seminars.  The dates place them exactly opposite the
DECUS Seminar program in Las Vegas.  What I find interesting, and
disturbing is that of the 13 seminars that are being offered over the 2
days, seven (7) of them are being presented by Digital.  I find this
rather odd, since Digital's Educational Services is a major presenter of
DECUS Seminars.

Could this be the first formal salvo in the trade show wars betweeen
DECUS and DEXPO?

-- 
                Kurt Reisler (UNISIG Chair, DECUS US Chapter)
		  Captain, UNISIG International Luge Team
		     Only a guest at klr@umbc4.umbc.edu
	     Are creative spellings like a patentable life form?
From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: comp.org.decus
Subject: Re: "The New DEXPO Seminar"
Date: 10 Oct 92 04:52:08 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <1992Oct9.083453.1007@beckman.com>, dsroberts@beckman.com writes:
> One interesting thing is that apparently NETSIG offered some of their seminars
> to this venue after they were rejected by seminars committee.  It seems NET
> felt they were valuable enough to be offered, but seminars couldn't fit them
> in.  I understand NET got a little grief over that, but it's all second hand
> for me.

The DECUS Seminar committee scheduled 12 of the 19 seminars submitted by
Digital's NaC group.  The Seminar Committee has a new system where it is
trying to avoid scheduling low interest or marginal seminars that are then
canceled because of lack of interest.  This system saves the attendee from
signing up for something that is marginal only to find its been canceled
later.  These seminars were not scheduled after they had been evaluated as a
result of the new philosophy.  Having seen the titles I agree with the Seminar
Committee's judgement call. 

The only grief the NET SIG got was related to surprisingly high number of 
unsolicited seminars that were submitted by the SIG.

> As far as I'm concerned, if they can successfully compete, let them.  DECUS
> should not attempt to be a monopoly, and if someone else can successfully
> compete, DECUS can look to other areas to fulfill their mission.

Seminars are a vital part of DECUS fulfilling its mission.  Not only do they
offer quality information exchange at the national level but because they are
"portable" they offer symposia week type information at the local level.
Competition of course has the advantage of everyone sharpening up their act.
However Don don't expect the U.S. Chapter to fold up its tent and go home
because someone else is the marketplace.  DECUS will compete by offering the
best content and the best service when it comes to seminars.  We won't be
competing by offering marginal left over seminars that are a bus ride away.
The proof of value of this activity is while other DECUS products and services
have been on a down trend Seminars continues to grow. 
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From: klr@umbc4.umbc.edu (Kurt Reisler)
Subject: Re: vi crashes on NFS-filesystem with an unaligned access error - Need Help
Organization: Hadron.com in exile
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:00:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.070150.10027@news.uni-stuttgart.de> wnkretz@ikesg1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Oliver Kretzschmar) writes:
>   we have problems with vi editor on a NFS mounted filesystem.
>   The editor vi crashes, if we want to edit a file on the
>   mounted filesystem, with the following error message :
>
>    "testfile.txt" pid 259 (vi) was on an unaligned access, at pc 0x416f84
>
>   The filesystem was exported from a CRAY YMP. We use a DECstation 5000/120
>   running Ultrix 4.2. Could somebody help me to solve the problem ?
>   Please mail me your informations.
>

You will need to get in touch with your Digital sales/support person,
and ask them for the RISC/ULTRIX 4.2 patch for the following:

	/usr/ucb/ex
	/usr/lib/ex3.7perserve
	/usr/lib/ex3.7recover

The patch tape is dated March 23, 1992

"vi core dumps when attempting to vi a large file from an nfs mounted
file system from a CRAY.

The problem is vi doesn't check if the line buffer size is over the 8k
limit.  (the maximum size that ULTRIX vi can handle is 8k)  Normally,
this line buffer size (bsize) is set to the optional blocksize for the
fuile system io ops (st_blksize) which in the case is 32k on the CRAY
system."

I would send it to you, but I do not have them on-line, only the printed
Release Notes, in lap :-)


-- 
                Kurt Reisler (UNISIG Chair, DECUS US Chapter)
		  Captain, UNISIG International Luge Team
		     Only a guest at klr@umbc4.umbc.edu
	     Are creative spellings like a patentable life form?
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