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From: mirza@vxcrna.cern.ch (MIRZA,I./EP)
Subject: Re: Islam and Science (was Re: Islam & Rushdie -- Icarus.)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:06:00 GMT


	Another simpler question to people who claim that BigBang is 
        consistent with Quran.

	According to BigBang universe can be finite or infinite.
        [ Which one is consistent with Quran, finite or infinite?]
        We do not know yet which way it is since it depends upon
        the total mass of the universe and we dont know yet how
        to estimate that. Now let me assume that universe is
        finite then after billions and billions years
        the whole universe will converge to a tiny point.
        Will God/Haven/Hell/Angles etc will also converge
	to this tiny point or they will remain outside?
	

Mirza Ilyas
From: rajain@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: what really happened to that world?
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:48:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: ecs.18594.2ac9da6d

In article <1992Sep30.104424.21269@ugle.unit.no>, (heia! norge) writes:
> is one body interest on me right now?
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	jasbdjsa isd mmask kldasd knksa  klsk lkd kd [kwdmd]dmdlw
	jdssd klmklc l slakd !!!! msdd;msd <sjds!!!> dasmdsa doosad

	lodl s;ldmasd s;llkdd jgs ahd adh!!!

> 
> thayanantha be loved

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? It's *ur* language :-)
From: arvindcr@iris-1.CE.Berkeley.EDU (C.R. Arvind)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Looking for Giridhar Raja at NJIT
Date: 6 Oct 1992 16:50:10 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: iris-6.ce.berkeley.edu

Followup-To:arvindcr@ce.berkeley.edu 
Distribution: world
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Keywords: 

I am looking for one GIRIDHAR RAJA who is now in his first semester at
New Jersey Institute of Technology (NJIT).  He is probably in the
Mechanical Engineering Department.  He is from Madras and is from the PSG
College of Technology,  Coimbatore.

Can anybody who has any information on his whereabouts,  telephone number,
email address etc,  respond to this message and get in touch with me at
     arvindcr@ce.berkeley.edu

     Thanks in advance,
     arvind

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Islam and Science (was Re: Islam & Rushdie -- Icarus.)
Date: 27 Sep 92 19:04:59 PST
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Organization: DAVID Systems Inc, Sunnyvale CA

In article <15667@borg.cs.unc.edu>, ramamurt@arras.cs.unc.edu (Srikanth Ramamurthy) writes:
> In article <1992Sep25.174716.30530@davidsys.com> merchant@davidsys.com 
> (RukhsaIn article <24SEP199213284949@vxcrna.cern.ch>, mirza@vxcrna.cern.ch 
> (MIRZA,I./EP) writes:
>    > In article <1992Sep23.112747.30528@davidsys.com>, merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant) writes...
> 
>    > 	Influenced by the norms of a society where one wife is the only 
>    > 	acceptable attitude you are just trying to justify it from Quran 
>    > 	invain. 
> 
>>   Which society are you referring to when you say "influenced by the 
>>   norms of a society".  And no, I do not believe that one wife
>>   is the only acceptable attitude.  I have already made my
>>   views known clearly in the discussion on "Multiple Wives".
>>   I do not need to justify the Quran; it speaks for itself.
>     					^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>     Truly. The bigotry, hatred, sexism and segregation preached by
>     it would make Jesse Helms look like Jerry Garcia. It is a unique 
>     book nonetheless. 

You are entitled to your opinion and if your intent is Islam
bashing, so be it.
> 
>>   One is not forced to accept Islam, but if one does, then
>>   they have to believe in all its teachings.  It is not a case
>>   of believeing in some of it and letting go of some of it.
>>   Its either believing in all of it or else falling outside
>>   the realm of Islam.
>>   > 	I wonder how you would have interpreted related Quranic verses, 
>>   > 	if you were born in Saudi Royal family or Tibbat for example?.
>>   Since I am not born in either, it is irrelevant.    -Rukhsana Merchant
> 
>    
>     I guess that you would have interpreted the Quran to show that tying 
>     kids (imported from other places) on the backs of camels is a pretty 
>     nifty idea and maybe show that killing a few actors
>     for acting in a play which shows Quran in a bad light is a very 
>     entertaining scheme (Even though the killing was done only because of 
>     some really bad acting).
> 
Your guess would be wrong!
> 
> -Srikanth R.
> 
-Rukhsana Merchant
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ramakrishna Chada)
Subject: Re: IIT Bullshit
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:22:42 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

In article <1992Sep30.125950.28436@cbfsb.cb.att.com> rrp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (rakesh.r.patel) writes:
>I am the only one getting fed up reading all this bullshit about IIT?
>
>Rakesh 'IIT-Killer' Patel
>
>
>P.S. What the heck is world culture?????????????

Now, 'killer' patel is back. 
Why does he have to grudge the IITians(yes, IIT graduates) so much?.
Was he affected directly or indirectly?.           
I don't have time to post the other 18 questions. 

Bye
Ramakrishna
From: srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: A newsgroup for Sanskrit, Are we ready?
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:25:49 GMT
Reply-To: srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (K.Srinivasan)
Organization: IREQ, Hydro-Quebec, QC, Canada
Originator: srini@acr


 A PROPSAL TO FORM A NEWSGROUP FOR DISCUSSIONS AND POSTINGS
 RELATED TO SAMSKRITAM

At present, postings related to Sanskrit are being made in
soc.culture.indian and soc.culture.tamil. Some recent topics
were:

1. Vedas, its right and wrong translations and related discussion.
   This was done predominantly in soc.culture.tamil. The follow ups
   were partly in s.c.t and partly in s.c.indian
2. Excerpts from Mahabharata in s.c.tamil (& s.c.indian?)
3. Sections from R.L.Turner's Dictionary of Indo Aryan language words
   The discussion was in s.c.tamil. The derivation of Sanskrit
   words from native Indian roots were discussed, for and against.

The formation of a specialized newsgroup for Samskritam will encourage
new readers and posters, who at present find 95% of postings in
soc.culture.indian and soc.culture.tamil not of their interest.

I invite volunteers to post their willingness to start the
procedure for the formation of newsgroups. This being not a university
I will be unable to handle large volume of mails.

There are many well versed in the formation of newsgroups in s.c.i

K. Srinivasan at Hydro Quebec
srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca
From: venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (my father is a GUN !!!)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Back from India
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:11:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Oct2.181125.22328
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

>>Mr. Sreehari Nimmala posts the following in some strange language
>>which uses letters from the english alphabet:
>>
>>
>>>Generally speaking, your above observation is more than 100%
>>>correct. This may probably be because of sheer arrogance nature of people.
>>>You may have observed or not, but there is no meaning for 
>>>"Advance Reservations" for rails in nothern part of India. People
>>>told me that even you made an advanced resrvation(say Ist class) on
>>>a train, it would be hard for you to get little place to sit.
>>>People are seemingly so arrogant that they just walk in and occupy
>>>the seats/berths. Some of southrners are generally scared to travel
>>>to north India. Though , being an Indian, I feel sorry for writing
>>>these things about fellow Indians, I need accept the facts.
>>
>>>**This is a big wonder for us too.**
>>
>>hey could you translate this to english and post it again for us so
>>that we can also understand it.
>>
>>thanx in advance
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

  This Sreehari Nimmala is the same So* of a B**** who found it 
  impossible to send some info from Emory univ since his was the
  only address from that univ.If he could not spare a few minutes of
  his time to bring sunshine into another's life what right does he 
  have to talk about others being inconsiderate and make such generalizations
  that fosters nothing but north versus south hatred.
  Talk about the language he must have learnt his english using the 
  RAPIDEX ENGLISH SPEAKING COURSE.He must stick to his foul version
  of Telugu even if it means taliking about sodomy.
	
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: <BIBEK@PURCCVM.BITNET>
Subject: checking
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 01:32:03 GMT

just checking if this thing works!
From: gupta@orion.oac.uci.edu (Mohan Gupta)
Subject: ARE YOU FROM DELHI UNIVERSITY >> IF YES THEN READ IT
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 2 Oct 92 07:57:19 GMT
Distribution: usa


Hi Friends:
 
NOTE: THIS MAIL IS ONLY MEANT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT RESPONDED TO MY
      PREVIOUS POSTING ON THE NET.

I am trying to compile a list of DU students and so far the present list
contains over 110 responses and the very first version of this list has
been forwarded to all the individuals. To update this list, it will be nice if
you give the information about yourself in the following order:
			
			NAME
			COLLEGE AT D.U.
			MAJOR AT D.U.
			YEAR OF GRADUATION AT D.U.
                        HIGHEST DEGREE EARNED FROM D.U.
			ARRIVAL YEAR IN U.S.
			PRESENT OCCUPATION
                        PRESENT UNIVERSITY
                        PRESENT MAJOR/FIELD
         		PRESENT ADDRESS
			PHONE NUMBER
			E-MAIL ADDRESS


You can also add other additional informations. Please send your e-mail to

       gupta@orion.oac.uci.edu

As soon as I start getting the new responses, I will update the list and send
a copy of it to you. I hope this will help in maintaining the contacts with 
the old and new friends.


Thanks in advance for taking your time.



mohan gupta






Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sistup@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Phani Bhushan Sistu)
Subject: Some questions about multiple H1 and Mexico
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 20:40:20 GMT

Hi,
I am posting this on behalf of a freind and would appreciate any answers to the following questions:


	1) Is a multiple entry visa required to come back to USA after spending
a couple of days in Mexico (My freind has a H1-B visa)?

	2)  Is there any place near Mexico city to apply for a multiple entry
Visa?   If yes, please give info. and relavent experiences etc.

	3) Does anyone know about applying for a multiple visa in Dijuana?
 	
	Please send your replies and any other related information to:

     sistup@rpi.edu

Thanks in advance
Phani Sistu
From: mece21x@rosie.uh.edu (Yesudas, Michael)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Sending things to India
Date: 27 Sep 92 15:53:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: rosie.27SEP199210533539
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1a2b7kINN3q1@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>, sunjain@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (mera bharat mahan) writes...
>In <1992Sep26.154857.29392@wuecl.wustl.edu> rr2@cec2.wustl.edu (Rajamiyer Ravichandran) writes:
> 
>(stuff deleted).

>  How dare you call your motherland a DISHONEST COUNTRY?
> 
>  How honest are we?  Tell me. 
> 
>  Hamam main sab nange hain..
> 
>  Don't we find ways to find loopholes in the system ourself?  
>  Don't we cheat the Indian Govt. by avoiding paying taxes and using
>  all kinds of tricks to convert Black Money to white money??
>  Don't we still ask the bride's parents for the DOWRY?
>  Don't we encourage dishonesty by bribing goverment officials to get our
>  work done?
Too Good! But is the list complete??

>>regards
>>ravi.
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|  Michael Yesudas         |  The control of the means of production   |
|  Mechanical Engineering  |  of wealth is the absolute control of     |
|  University of Houston   |  human life itself                        |
|  mece21x@jetson.uh.edu   |                    --   Hilaire Belloc    |
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From: ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan - Mick)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,wpi.students.desis
Subject: Re: Back from India
Date: 2 Oct 92 23:35:07 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

In a previous article, chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala) said:
:- ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan - Mick) writes:
:- : In a previous article, dxn@juniper.WPI.EDU (Deepak Narain) said:
:- 
:- You both, along with that stinking character, seemingly are
:- in the same institute(WPI). Why don't you three a##es sit 
:- together and try to understand the meaning of my *SANSKRIT*
:- sentences.

	now i am more confused... what does a##es mean? is this a
	strange indian script i know nothing of? anyway, whatever it may
	be, your sentences certainly didnt sound like sanskrit to me!
	should i go back and repost that article of yours? and whats
	more, since neither i, nor dxn or the stinking character know
	sanskrit, our sitting together might just produce more articles
	that beg the net to explain your words to us. to cut short such
	wastage of net resources, for the good of all, i sincerely
	request you to provide us with the translation.

	thank you and may peace be with you,

	- ravi


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Subject: Re: October 2nd
Keywords: LB Sastry birth day
Reply-To: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Distribution:  world
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 20:14:45 GMT

In article <vemuri.718064357@godzilla> vemuri@informix.com (Sudhakar Vemuri) writes:
>October 2nd happens to be birthday of yet another great son of
>India _ Lal Bahadur Sastry, the most simple and honest PM who is
>almost all forgotten by Congress Party and others.
>Though he ruled for 18 months, it was one of the most turbulent
>moments in the history of India. India was limping back from
>Chinese agression and fought 2nd Indo-Pakistan war.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>He  is the man who coined " Jai Jawan, Jai Kisaan"


That was also the time when the great lata mangeshkar sang 
`aey mere watan ke logon ...'


Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: susanc@rice.edu (susan chacko)
Subject: Re: Mailing discarded journals to India
Organization: Rice University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:06:41 GMT

crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD)) writes:
>So what do you do, fish through the dumpster for discarded journals and 
>send them to India?  Seems like an expensive way to dispose of garbage,
>wouldn't it be cheaper to send it to Canada, they have lots of room for
>landfills.

>Ed

What, mine was the most provocative post you could find today? 
S.c.i has come to a pretty pass indeed. C'mon, this topic would 
have to be contorted beyond recognition to provide fodder for
a flame-fest. Be patient, Ed --- I'm sure there's *some*one out
there with infinite time on their hands and a craving for silly
arguments.

Susan.
--
Mail from this account is forwarded to susan@vger.niddk.nih.gov
From: vinny@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Vinit Karandikar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Seeking Indian Female E-mail Pals.
Date: 4 Oct 92 21:02:43 GMT
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Sreehari Nimmala (chemsn@emory.edu) wrote:
: 
:  Looking for female pals from India who are willing to
:  correspond(through e-mail) with me on various topics.
:  If you are interested, please send me an e-mail.
: 
:  ---Nimmala Sreehari
:  (chemsn@emory.edu)
: 
:  P.S.  Don't flame me, saying that I should have posted
: 	   this on soc.penpals. I am specifically seeking females
: 	   from India and hence this posting on SCI.

Miserable &*$#@^!(%!$#@^!(%!$#@^!(%!$#@^!(%!

why couldn't you post this on soc.penpals ?

:-)

--
                                           ---===( Vinit Karandikar )===---
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ramesh@qucis.queensu.ca (Ramesh Srinivasan)
Subject: looking for Ajit V. Rao in UCSB
Organization: Computing & Information Science, Queen's University at Kingston
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:58:40 GMT



Hi!

   I am Puneet Chauhan looking for  my friend Ajit V. Rao, who is currently
in his Masters in Electrical Engg. at UCSB. He is from IIT, Madras.
Please forward my e-mail address to him and ask him to contact me immediately.

Thanks!
Puneet.


Name  : Puneet Chauhan
e-mail: ramesh@qucis.queensu.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: hsgupta@crusader.ecn.uoknor.edu (Hari Shankar Gupta)
Subject: Looking for Apartment to share in Santa Ana, CA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 06:03:31 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

Hi !

I am planning on moving to Santa Ana, beginning Nov.'92.
I'd like to share a apartment with one other guy who is also working.
get in touch with me ASAP.

email: hsgupta@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu


Tel. # : 405-325-9975

Hari Gupta

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: idicula@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (John Idicula)
Subject: Re: Anyone from Manipal?
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 07:37:16 GMT

st1s0@rosie.uh.edu (Hans, Samir) writes:
: 
: Hi guys! Is there anyone from Manipal out there? I'd love to hear from
: you. 

Well, I was at MGM College, Udupi.

John
-- 
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GINTIC Institute of CIM, Singapore        Bitnet: gjidi@ntuvax.bitnet 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: picardo@post.ces.cwru.edu (Leslie Picardo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Asian models?
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:33:05
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science, CWRU, Cleveland OH.
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: post.ces.cwru.edu
In-reply-to: azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu's message of 4 Oct 92 13:27:41 GMT



In article azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar) writes:

      --- stuff deleted ---
>>	      BTW, black models only flooded the US market when blacks
>>	   started respecting themselves, and newage whites thought it was cool
>>	   to say "Some of by best friends are black." It may be cool for a    
>>	   western dude to say some of my best friends are Paksitanis, but
>>	   Pakistanis haven't overcome the inferiority complex.



 And we wait for the day when Calvin Klein realizes that there is a 
 huge market for designer lungis. 

 Picture the Doordarshan commercial :

    Rajnikant skipping down Anna Salai, a briefcase in one hand,
    wearing a Leggs(TM) brandname white business lungi while a
    rough Rod Stewart-like voice croons to a pulsating rock beat 

    " He's got Leggs -- -- he knows how to use them 
      Sheer energy Leggs ....   "

 







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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rsadve@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Adve)
Subject: ASHA-Syracuse.
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 19:04:09 EDT



			AN OPEN FORUM ON ASHA

       ASHA-Syracuse, an on-campus organization working for the 
       betterment of the underprivilaged in India, will be holding 
       an open forum to explain its objectives and future plans to
       all those who are interested in getting involved at SU and the
       Syracuse community.

		The Forum will be held on FRIDAY, OCT 9th, 1992 at
 	201 HALL OF LANGUAGES between 5.30 and 7pm.

	We look forward to seeing you there.
	Your particpation will make a difference.

	For more information, please contact:

	Ravi Adve   426 8253 rsadve@mailbox)
	Jagan Sharma 423 4178 (sharma@cat)
	Vish Sundararaman 478 1563 (vsundara@sunrise)

Refreshments will be served!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: janand@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Jayaraman Anand)
Subject: height of the khans ?
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:00:22 GMT

hi folks ,

I have a question regarding the heights of film actors Amir Khan ,Salman Khan
and Kamal Hassan. What are there heights ?

Prizes will be given for the correct answers :-)
-- 
J Anand.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: shyamal@seas.smu.edu (Shyamal Prasad)
Subject: Re: Are IIT Bashers Hypocrites?
Organization: SMU School Of Engineering and Applied Science
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:00:36 GMT


At the risk of inviting flames:

IIT bashing/discusion seems to be done by two classes of people

	1. The guys who never went to IIT, and have some major
	   hangups there.
	2. The guys who went to IIT, and who in my opinion
	   seem to be trying to clear their own doubts about
	   what they did to the system.

Cool off...what is the big deal with the IIT thing anyway?? 

Shyamal


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rajat@sunny3.che.clarkson.edu (Rajat Kapoor)
Subject: Indian NFL 
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 21:29:36 GMT



If anything, American Football was meant for Indians...


A free for all... No matter who has the ball... get the other guy
down...

Consider the trend in SCI postings...

Everybody is at each other's throats, some throttling, some wrestling
some pounding..., howling, screaming ... 

Nobody cares for the ball ...,i.e. the topic, its the tackling, and 
grinding the other guy's ego that is ever more important.


" Punting ", "Touchdown", and other terms have their own implications.

Even the roles... Rough quarter-backs, who, the moment they pounce on
the ball (topic), throw it out of the game, " Now ! Forget the Ball,
lets get the other Guy...!!"

Same applies to the Indian Psyche back home...



Rajat Kapoor



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian