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From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt M. Bose)
Subject: Here come the Dukes!  (The REAL Opening Day.)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 20:55:34 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

Here in New Mexico, we don't have MLB.  Here at UNM, we don't even have ESPN.
But we do have the PCL, and we got to see a gem of a game all around on opening
night.

It was the PCL opener, Las Vegas at Albuquerque, with former Met-killer Mike
York (obviously on hiatus from "Logan's Run") vs. the Dukes' own Pedro.  As in
Martinez.  As in '92 NL ROY.  (Maybe...)  Anyway, it was a great game all around
for both teams, but the night belonged to Martinez.  He went eight innings, 
giving up one hit, no runs, walking one, hitting two (though the first one
sounded like it hit the bat) and striking out eleven, including the side in the
second and eighth.  Also a great game for Stars 3b Scott Coolbaugh, who had a
GG defensive play at third against Jeff Hamilton in the fourth and ripped a two
run homerun in the ninth off of Pedro (Pistachio) Astacio. (Having suffered thru
1991 with Coolbaugh as my third baseman in Robot BB, it pains me to say that.)
Did I mention a game score of 90 for Martinez? At any rate, the play of the game
and maybe of the year so far came in the seventh inning. 

Tom Goodwin at the plate.  I look at my stats from last year and see...1 homer. 
I turn to Nate and say, "How about a home run right here???" He just mutters
something about a "Cub fan mentality."  The pitch comes, and THWACK! Goodwin
hits a ball to the wall in deep center (410 feet.) It's a sure double for anyone
else, but (ANDISWEARTOGODTHATIAMNOTMAKINGTHISUP) Goodwin is HALFWAY TO THIRD 
before the ball LANDS!!!.  An easy inside-the-park home run.  I'll say this:
Raul Mondesi is counted the best Dodger prospect in the outfield, but Tom 
Goodwin is the MOST exciting player I have seen in a LONG time.  Even more
exciting when I drove home and realized that I saw his only dinger last year,
too.

That's right. Inside the park.

Just goes to show you that life goes on south of the waiver wire.  Play ball.

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| Kurt M. Bose UNM           do they want NOW!?!?!?!?"
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From: navarra@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John Navarra)
Subject: Re: Mark Grace
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:08:32 GMT

In article <maj1.703274925@Ra.MsState.Edu> maj1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mark "Beren" Jamison) writes:
>Who in the Cubs organization thinks Grace is God??
>I'm serious who does??

	I'm not in the Cub's organization but I think Grace is god! He is
the glue of the lineup. He is the only guy you can *count* on to move
runners along, hit to all fields, take pitches so runners can steal, 
take(or try for) a base on balls to get Dawson, Sandberg, Bell or whoever
is hitting behind them up to the plate, field all of Dunston's lightening
bolts, and just show up *every* day to play and not bicker about his
salary, his teamates, etc. 
	He also has a great attitude towards baseball and the fans.

He is my favorite player (Him and will clark)
And the Cubs (and I ) would *surely* miss him!

>
>Why would you put up with a first baseman like that and dump the likes of
>Rafael Palmeiro who is listed as the most valuable 1b in the AL last year??

	Hello! Wake up! Palmeiro was playing the outfield at that time!
I believe Grace beat out Leon Durham for the first-base spot. 

>Enquiring Minds really want to know..
>
>BTW- I realize that Palmeiro was listed first because Thomas didn't get enough
>     playing time at 1b, but even second behind Thomas is better than Grace
>     any day..

	Well, last year yes. I really hate people who compare one year's
stats to someone elses career. Besides, what the hell does Frank Thomas
have to do with Mark Grace anyway? They are both 1st baseman -- what's 
your point?


-tms
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From: rjs@home.merit.edu (Robert J. Skrobola)
Subject: Re: Sierra and Clemente
Organization: Merit Network, Inc.  Ann Arbor, MI
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 21:53:04 GMT

In article <204487@unix.cis.pitt.edu> dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu (David M Tate) writes:
>
>
>The other thing that one might mean by that phrase, though, is "the next 
>Puerto Rican player to be as good as Clemente."  Again, we'll ignore defense,
>since Sierra can't compete there.  I claim that it's silly to say that Sierra

Agreed.  It's the same phenomenon where most times when a white 
point guard comes up (Mark Price) they say he'll be the next Bob Cousy...

>"could be the next Clemente", in this sense, because Sierra is ALREADY AS GOOD
>AS CLEMENTE EVER WAS, almost, at an age when Clemente had never yet shown star
>ability.
>What do I mean by that?  Simply this: Sierra has already had three offensive
>seasons better than Clemente's second-best year.  Sierra is 26 this year; 
>Clemente had his 'breakthrough' year at age 26, and all his best seasons came
>later.  There is no reason to believe that Sierra, this year, will have an
>offensive season better than any Clemente ever had.  Sierra's Brock2 projection
>shows him beating Clemente's career totals in everything except triples and
>batting average.  Sierra's established level of ability at 26 is as good as
>Clemente's established level of ability at 28.  Sierra is just plain a better
>offensive player.

Tough to argue..Sierra will have to keep it up for a while, but I don't 
see any logical reason (barring injury) to think he won't.

			Rob
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From: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
Subject: Re: Hall of Fame trivia (easy)
Reply-To: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 21:28:22 GMT

In article <6APR199202443392@deimos.ucc.umass.edu>  
s5170748@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (THAN LEE) writes:
> 
>   OK, here's a simple trivia question...what surname has the most inductees
> into the HOF?  And, can you name them all?

How about Frank, Brooks and Jackie Robinson?
From: hjeat@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (Jerry Eaton)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Schilling/Grimsley, Cormier
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:37:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Chevron Exploration & Production Services, Houston, TX.

In article <1992Apr3.224352.19855@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov> frisbee@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Tyler Brown) writes:
>Dave Bonar writes:
>
>>	Schilling will be in the Phillies bullpen.  Middle relief.
>>
>>	A bigger question is what will Grimsley do in Houston?  Since the
>>latest news I have is that Jimmy Jones will not be able to start the season
>>as a reliever I assume that Grimsley will take the swingman role.  The
>>starters (Harnisch, Kile, Portugal, Bowen and Henry) are set so I doubt
>                                               ^^^^^
>>he has a shot a a big role with the team.  All I can figure is that Schilling
>>was out of options and the Astro's wanted to get something (anything) for
>>him.
>>
>
>Last time I checked, Dwayne Henry was in the Cincinnati Reds bullpen. Maybe
>they have a place for him after all...
>
>			Tyler Brown
>			frisbee@devvax.jpl.nasa.gov
>
>-

Dwayne Henry is indeed in the Cincinnati bullpen. Butch Henry, no relation,
is in the starting rotation in Houston.
-- 
           Jerry Eaton
     hjeat@usho29.chevron.com
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Tuesday, 7 Apr 1992 18:23:11 EDT
From: <IO20149@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: bosox lose...

The Boston Red Sox lost their opener today to the New York Yankees.
Roger Clemens took the complete game loss on the mound in the 4-3
decision. Scott Sanderson earned the win and Steve Farr nailed down
his first save of this young season.
From: horj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Eric Scheirer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Really bad, lame-o regulars on WS winners
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:13:29 EDT
Distribution: usa,local,rec
Organization: Cornell University

> But have we considered that there may have been a *worse* player
> than Alfredo Griffin to play regularly on a World Series winner?
> 
> Consider Todd Cruz, third sacker for the 1983 Orioles:
>   - ~.199 BA
>   - 10 HR, 48 RBI in ~440 AB
>   - 22 BB, 108 SO
>   - no speed at all
>   - no particular defensive reputation
> Not exactly Brooks Robinson.  Not even Ken Boyer.

Didn't Cruz go like 12-for-20 with 2 HR his first week or so?  I remember
thinking, "my God, the Orioles finally have a third baseman".  Or was
that the next (or previous) guy?  I was only wee at the time...

Eric
From: s_bean@oz.plymouth.edu (Shaun P. Bean)
Subject: Re: Dream Team Poll
Reply-To: s_bean@oz.plymouth.edu (Shaun P. Bean)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 02:54:05 GMT


Dude,

Please stop posting this.  It is at least the 5th time you have put it
here.  If enough people have responded by know then it is time for you
to get ready for fottball.

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From: scott@asd.com (Scott Barman)
Subject: Re: Who's On First--The Dialogue!
Organization: American Software Development Corp., W. Babylon, NY
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:28:01 GMT

In article <nittmo.702269436@camelot> nittmo@camelot.bradley.edu (Christopher Taylor) writes:
>Here it is:
>
>Who's On First  (A Sketch by Bud Abbott and Lou Costello)

Everyone keeps posting the MOVIE version (and I forgot which movie it
was in... drat!).  IMHO, there were little quirks in the original RADIO
version that make it a bit better (the radio version had Costello going
to New York to sub for an injured DiMaggio[??] and Abbot was coming
along as a coach).  Does someone have the radio version available??  (I
think I have the tape somewhere... if I find it *I* will post it! :-)
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 (I can barely speak for myself, you expect me to speak for my employer??)
From: kenneth@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: ALL-Troublemaker Team  :)
Date: 14 Apr 92 00:54:07 GMT
Distribution: na

In article <eevh02YE0fDS01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>, jdg40@pecan.spa.amdahl.com (Jeff Gee) writes:
> In article <1992Apr13.083901.2325@ducvax.auburn.edu> kenneth@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
>>POS Player Name                    Reason
>>--- ------------------------------ -------------------------------------------
> P    Dave Stewart		    Soliciting a transvestite
> SS   Jose Uribe			    (unsubtantiated) assault
> OF   Luis Polonia		    statuatory rape

Jeez, I thought *I* was desparate, yet Luis goes around raping statues.
What is the world coming to?  :)

Ken
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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Mack Beaning
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 19:45:21 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.150018.119@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bm562@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard L. Trionfo) writes:
>
>  Is anyone in the AL offices or Fay Vincent's office(sorry,
>delusions of a commissioner) going to do anything about this.
>I did not see any highlights of the game(I'm cableless), but
>I heard about it on the radio.  It would have been worse if Bosio
>hit Mack, but this is just setting a bad precedent where people like
>Cecil Fielder and Frank Thomas getting beaned by marginal tenth 
>pitchers.  Is there grounds for a suspension of Fetters or even
>the manager(just like hockey)

Although I don't know if Fetters did it intentionally or not, I would think
it is quite possible that it was unintentional.  His control is not very good.
(Believe me.  I was (and still am) a suffering Angels fan...)

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
Charter Member of the Acker-o-phobics Anonymous
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
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From: schablan@engws5.ic.sunysb.edu (Sanjiv Chablaney)
Subject: All This Blue Jay Enthusiasm!
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:27:36 GMT

Like many others on this network, I'm a diehard Jays fan also.

Every year since 1983, the Jays have had solid seasons.
They have come close to the SHOW!

But its getting to the point where its not funny any more.
(Chokes 1985- KC   1987 - Det   1989 - Oak  1991- Min)

The "choker" label is only being proven year after year.
Every time it looks like they're gonna get rid of the label,
they end up solidifying it. 

EXAMPLE: GAME 2 ALCS 1991 vs. Min 

The JAys looked so good, like they were gonna take it all.

So what do they do, they get swept at home.

All you Jays fans here can go on saying how great the Jays are and how
they're gonna kick ass. And there is no doubt in my mind that they will
win the division.

But when they get to the ALCS - THEY have to do it or that "choker" 
label will be hard to live down, years down the road.

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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Mets Romp in '92 laffer
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 00:11:03 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.124345.5194@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In just *one* post, this guy empirically demonstrates
>(1) How obnoxious Mets fans are, and

Fine.  *One* Mets fan.  I'm sure he's the only obnoxious Mets fan in the
world (not that Joe Kaufman with his Howard Stern/Magic Johnson .sig
qualifies or anything).  Now will all of these wonderfully polite
Mets fans stop bombarding me with e-mail?
-- 
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1307 E 60 St, #109 +  is the skin of a living thought and may vary greatly in
U o' C Law Skool   +  color and content according to the circumstances and
Chi, IL 60637      +  the time in which it is used."  --  Holmes
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From: stark@saturn.sdsu.edu (Brian D. Stark)
Subject: help with rotiserie league
Originator: stark@saturn.sdsu.edu
Organization: San Diego State University, Math Dept.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 06:18:41 GMT

In the tradition of last minute preparations, I would like to
request any suggestions of publications that have good rotiserie
data in them (i.e. magazines with special baseball preview issues,
or newspapers etc.).  I'm drafting for a rotiserie league this
Saturday and have been a one team person for too long (I got
creamed last year).

Please respond via email since the traffic on this board is
too high for me to keep up with.

Thanks,

brian
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They're both going to be slaughtered by the SDSU Aztecs
in football!!!!!!!!
From: clmn@ellis.uchicago.edu (Bill Coleman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Cubs Lineup
Date: 5 Apr 92 23:56:58 GMT
Reply-To: clmn@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Department of Economics

Am listening to Larry Himes on WGN radio.  Leading off the Cubs opening day
lineup will be Shawn Dunston.  Batting behind him:  Sammy Sosa.  Last week's
thread about when to schedule the beer and bathroom breaks wasn't quite
right!

Sandberg bats third, Dawson fourth, Mark Grace fifth!

How many runs ought we expect out of a lineup like this?
-- 
Bill Coleman
From: CAVGEOE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Where's Kevin Tapani?
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:38:03 GMT
Organization: Yale University

In article <1992Apr10.050445.5105@news2.cis.umn.edu>
ewk@seasnake.micro.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel) writes:
 
>
>He's starting the HOME opener tomorrow night...and I'm going!  He's started
>the home opener the last 2 years.  Tom Kelly isn't one to worry about who
>is the #1, #2 or #3 pitcher.  They're part of the team, not individuals.
>
>-Rick
 
Isn't this screwing around with your rotation for the home opener bad
strategy?  I mean, why give more starts to a worse pitcher?  A #4
starter has less chance to get extra starts in than a #3.
 
Jeff
From: pr0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Pravin Devineni Ratnam)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Pirates thoughts
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:55:26 GMT
Organization: Senior, IM - MCS/CIT Track, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA




Jeff King has me worried. AT least, I gave up on ANdy VAn Slyke becoming
a balanced batter. It's not just his average which has mwe worried. It's the way he is getting out. He looks like a AAA player out there. AT least, Jay Bell
is hitting the ball solidly while geeting out. However, Jeff King looks
great at first base. That's not enough> What we need is  some batting power
in the lineup. The Pirates should hyave gotten Dacve Winfield at thye
beginning of the season and should have gotten rid of a couple of outfield
bench players.

After last season, I was shocked that they even considered sending Espy
to AAA during the spring season. And  I am happy they didn't. Mc Clendon, to
no one's surprise, is murdering left-handed pitching. Hope he keeps it up.


Merced is yet to gain his form. He seems to have lost the concentration
he had  when he was openming for the PIrates. When he used to bat leadoff,
you could see that he was concentrating so hard to get on base somehow. The
homeruns were a result of good hitting. Maybe they should bring him back
to  the leadoff spot if Gibson doesn't show any improvement.


What's the deal with Batista. Why don't they just return him to MOntreal and
forget about him. He may have promise. But is there any indication that he is
a future CY Young? I don't think he is wiorth the risk of keeping him ont he roster. Besisdes, even if ehe does  have promise, how are yopu going to let
him improve if he doesn't pitch on a regular basis. Afetr the year is over, would the Pirates be allowed to send him to A or AA ball?


Prince is a fine defensive catcher. BUt he hits worse  than Lind. HOw's this
for 3 cvonsecutive batters- prince, Lind , and the pitcher. when slaught is
ready, the PIrates can use Mc Clendon as the 3rd catcher, in case. someone
does claim Prince.

Also, the PIrates should look for players from losing sides weho don't  have
inflated stats. They can get them for a cheaper price than current Pirates
pitchers who benefit a lot from great Pirates defense.
From: sgs@milton.u.washington.edu (Steven Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Birthdays
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:10:09 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Today's Birthdays, and the Weekend's

April 11
Bret Saberhagen, 1964
Sam Chapman, 1916
Jim Hearn, 1921
Barney McCosky, 1918
Sid Monge, 1951
Ossee Shreckengost, 1875
Turner Ward, 1965

April 12
Addie Joss, 1880
Vic Willis, 1876
Woody Fryman, 1940
John Antonelli, 1930
Charlie Lau, 1933
Walt Moryn, 1926
Vicente Romo, 1943
Bill Wight, 1922
Eric McNair, 1909
Mike MacFarlane, 1964
Candlestick Park, 1960
Houston Astrodome, 1965
Atlanta Fulton County Stadium, 1966

April 13
Claude Hendrix, 1889
Kid Elberfeld, 1875
Vean Augustus Gregg, 1885
Ben Cantwell, 1902
Oscar Grimes, 1915

EH?


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From: dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu (David M Tate)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: If not Alfredo, who?
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:50:56 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Apr14.092650.1@vaxr.sscl.uwo.ca> palmer2@vaxr.sscl.uwo.ca (The Econoclast) writes:
>
>Suppose Manny Lee is injured or begins to play even worse than he has
>played in the past. Should they start Alfredo? Should they call up
>Zosky? Do they have someone in AA they can call up? 

I don't know.

>Or should they try to make a trade now before they get even more
>desperate? What are some reasonable trades they might make to fill
>this hole?

Myers to Montreal for Spike Owen.  Owen has never been my favorite player,
but he's a competent shortstop, not yet over-the-hill, and worlds better
offensively than either Griffin or Lee.  And the Expos are desperate for
some decent catching, and Carter won't last much longer.  The Expos can
bring up Wil Cordero to play short.

(Add throw-in players as necessary to make this deal acceptable.)


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     dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu       | Nor is not moved by concord of sweet sound
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 medallions to the thumb.-MacLeish | 	Shakespeare, "Merchant of Venice", A.V
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From: frisbee@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Tyler Brown)
Subject: NL Roster questions...
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA)
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:52:10 GMT

A little while back, someone kindly posted a compilation of opening
day rosters from USA Today. I have a few questions:

I show the Astros with 24 men. Mike Simms is not included. Is this
an oversight?

On the Dodgers... I thought Dave Anderson made the team. Is he up or
in Albuquerque?

Did Eric Bullock really hang on with the Expos?

Steve Lake is the backup Catcher on the Phillies? I thought he spent his
spring with SF?

San Diego sent down Paul Faries?

The Giants kept Bryan Hickerson?

Some St.Louis questions: How badly is Jose Oquendo injured? Is he on the DL
yet? With Geronimo Pena out, who will take his place? Jones? Hudler? Wilson?
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