From: jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung)
Subject: Re: <Why I was in army) Re: Service in Korea
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:23:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.222240.1195@news.duc.auburn.edu> kim@magneto.physics.auburn.edu (Han-jung Kim) writes:
>
>Hay buddy, you seemed not to have ever studied about the strategy and the war
>history and their properites at all. At the peaceful time of era, anybody can
>sing a song with laughing. 

	Au contraire, mon frere, I've studied tons about war and international
relations.  If you want, I'll USnail you my transcript.  Happy?
>
>Nobody can prove that there will be any more war on this erath in the future.

	No, but I can claim that North Korea doesn't have what it takes to
start another war based on my observations.

>Some historian told that mankind has only 50 year of pure peaceful time and
>other days are filled with the war time.

	Most historians also thought that Germany won't be unified until
the next century.  Most historians also thought that the Soviet Union will
never fall without a war.  The point is that quoting these historians really
makes no sense since I can find "some" historian who will support my view
and you can do that same.
>
>Now still we hear thw wars in Europe and Africa.                 

	So you are going to generalize Yugoslavia and other various civil
wars in Africa to Asia and Korea?  All wars are not the same, and this is
one of the major flaw in realism which you seem to subscribe.

>You live in US, the strongest country which needs not to be afraid of 
>any country on the erath. But clington told that he would maintain the
>stroingest army althoguh the cold war was over.   

	Irrelevant.
>
>How you can prove that the north will  not break out the war.

	1.  Economy.  North Korea doesn't have what it takes to sustain
a long dragged out war against Korea-American-possibly-Japanese alliance.
	2.  Technology.  As evidenced by the Gulf War, superiority of 
weapons do matter.  And in this aspect, Korean-American forces have a clear
advantage.
	3.  Superpower backing.  Russians and Chinese are not going to
support North Korea in a war.  But the United States will support South 
Korea.  
>
>The war can be occured if one side think that he can win at last.

	Unless the North Korean leadership, not just Kim Jung-Il, but also
the entire Communist Party and the military, is so stupid as to think they
can win, then I guess there will be a war.  But they are smarter than that.
>
>Also war can be used to maintain one's position in power.

	Which the North Koreans do not have to start out with.
>
>The buddy who thinks that now is the time to get rid of army looks so naive 
>and does not seem to live long enogugh to realize the life itself.

	Irrelevant ad hominem attack.
>
>Think of L.A riot. Any korean-American have ever imagine that their property
>have ever turned in the trash for several days of chaios? 
>The police helped them? and protected them?   

	Irrelevant analogy.
>
>NO !!!!!
>
>Korean-American in LA had to use gun and armor for themselves. They had to
> aim the gun against the yesterday's neighbour.
>
>The international relations are similar to that situation.

	Wrong.  International relations are not similar to that situation.
LA riot had its basis on racism.  International relations aren't.  The LAPD
also is not the American military.  If they were, then I'd hate to think who
would have won the Gulf War.
>
>There is no ultimate force to control the war. 

	Yes, there is.  It's called nuclear weapons.  That's why there
have never been a war between the United States and the Soviet Union.

>When Cold war was over, Iraq has invaded Kuwait. If US did not enough military
>power to calm down Iraq, what could be happened?   

	What is your point?
>
>Who knows if tomorrow US withraw its army from Korea?

	Which they aren't planning to do so.  The withdrawal will be a 
gradual step. >

>Can you gurrant that US will never withraw its army from Korean?

	No, but I'm telling you that by the time that there is a complete
withdrawal of the US forces from Korea, North Korea will have gone bankrupt.
>
>Yes. North korea seems to change. Good news of course.
>
>But does this gurranty that N.Korea will never break out the WAR?

	As I said, unless the entire North Korean leadership is stupid
enough to think that they can win a war against the Korean-American alliance,
they will not attempt it.
>
>in 1950 they have ever made it already and the foundation of N. Korean
>is based on the red-unified korea still.  They have never gave up 
>this kind of idealogy up to date.
>So how S. korean can trust that no war in the future ?
>If somebody can prove that N. Korea is not willing to break out the war,
>then I will say that it is the time to change the military system. 
>Anybody can predict when one can be robbed in the future?
>10 year trained army is for oneday war.
>All the locking system is for preventing oneday thief.    
>Try to open you house always neglecting the low possibility of get robbed.
>If not even one lost in your lifetime, you are lucky.   
>If you have at least one loss, you may regret.   

	Ahh, I see your point.  So you are saying we should spend all our
money and manpower in defense, even though the odds are very much in our
favor, just because future is never certain.  Fine, be that way, but I'll
be voting for politicians who are going to spend more money in domestic,
social affairs, rather than in defense.

>Some day who knows that German will make another war, or Japan invade 
>korean penninsular again. 

	The Cubs will win the World Series before this happens.  :)

>It is very desirable to try to trust others, but that is not everything.
>specially the matther is among the world contries where ther is
>no super power and God father to caml down the trouble gud.   
>
>Conclusion: To be a serviceman in Korea is kind of honorable thing. They are
>sacrificing themselves by wasting their precious time in their life.
>
>a war.  But some day  korea feel safe against Japan and N. korea, then that
>is the time to change the system.
>Nobody like the life in military service period. Neverthless it is not the time
>to ask to change the korean military system.
>
	It sure is the time to change the Korean military system.  If you
are going to go around being paranoid about every single neighbour, you'll
never ever change the military system.  According to your logic, even after
North Korea falls, we must keep up our defense spending because Japan may
invade.  Great.  How do you propose to solve this problem?  Take over Japan
before they take us over?  And then what?  Are you going to keep up the
defense spending in case China or Russia decide to turn against us?  

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