HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Modifying solid stae preamp to tube
Date: 31 Aug 92 11:04:57 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

ibanez@ac.dal.ca writes:


>  I have a Peavey Mega bass amp, which is solid state. I was wondering if 
>a home brewed tube stage could be added onto the existing preamp. What I'm
>looking to do is place a two tube gain stage just before the eq and the
>rest of the preamp. I know that there are a few local companies which will
>make custom preamps, but I'd like to actually use the graphic already
>in the solid state preamp. I guess this might mean removing the existing
>gain bit and replacing it with a tube unti. It is obvious by my use of the 
>term 'bit' that I really don't know what I'm talking abouyt in technical
>terms. I'm basically interested in finding out if this sounds possible and
>if so, I can get someone else to do the mods.

Anything's possible

Main problem is the HT Voltage for the tubes and the heater/filament supplies.
12AX7 has the option of running the heaters at 6.3 volts or 12.6 volts, so
if you can find a supply in your Peavey that provides ~30volts with 100mA to
spare, just wire up a 12volt 1 amp 3 leg regulator.
If it's a 200-300 watt power amp, you might just have enough volts to supply
HT for the tubes.

+120v --| 10k |----------------------------------------------
                 |                           |               |
                 -                           |              ---++
                | | 100k                   --|--            --- 100uF/150volts 
                | |                      /  ===  \           | 
                 i|                      |                  GND 
                 |-----------------------| - - -
               --|--                     |         V1b 
             /  ===  \                   |  ___
   .1uF      |         V1a               | /   \
 <--||-------| - - -                     \     | / 
         |   |  ___                        ----|- 
         |   | /   \                           |
         -   \     | /                         |---||----->Next stage
        | |    ----|-                          -    .1uF
  1Meg  | |        |----                      | | 
         -         -    |                     | | 100k
         |    2.2k| |  --- +                   -
         |        | |  --- 100uF/25volts       |s
         |         -    |                      | 
         |         |    |                      |
GND----------------------------------------------------

If you get too much gain, miss out the 100uF cathode bypass cap in V1a

'Course you've still got all the metalwork to cope with!! :-)

Dave

--
From: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Interested in going wireless
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:01:10 GMT
	<1992Sep1.225635.5590@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Reply-To: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Organization: Century Computing, Inc.


That also assumes that every band member is in only 1 band.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: jimlynch@netcom.com (Jim Lynch)
Subject: Re: I STILL don't play a guitar
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 05:43:32 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Sep1.160412.5316@head-cfa.harvard.edu> eskridge@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Paul Eskridge) writes:
>
>>This group is made up of bass guitar players and those interested in bass  
>>guitar.
>
>I absolutely disagree.  I have only ever SEEN one instrument that I would call
>a "bass guitar".  It was an old Fender VI.  But even beyond my semantic
>exuberance, a large amount of traffic on this group concerns stand-up bass.
>There is simply no way to call a stand-up a "guitar", and not deserve to be
>laughed at for your efforts.
>
>Never met anyone who played "bass guitar". . . 
>
>Paul

Standup basses are (classically speaking) in the stringed instrument family
along with violins, etc while guitars are in the plucked instrument family.

Interesting, huh?
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 11:38:13 EDT
From: Karl Nordstrom <KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Jaco Pastorious Discography

See Rec.Music.Bluenote for an extensive Jaco discography.
From: ADCBB@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU (C. Brian Batey)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: I STILL don't play a guitar
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:14:56 GMT
Organization: LOUISIANA TECH UNIVERSITY

In article <1992Sep3.170540.16105@leland.Stanford.EDU>
whale@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stephen Schmidt) writes:
 
>
>In article <1992Sep03.011300.18997@slammer.UUCP> brad@slammer.UUCP (Brad Isley) writes:
>
>>Hey!  You stole my line!  I heartily agree.  Leo Fender invented it.  He named
>>it.  The name is "electric bass guitar".
>
>Um, what do you call a Clevinger, then?
>The instrument has progressed some in 40 years...
>--
How about an "electric upright bass"...that's what I call it anyway.
True enough, the instrument has progressed in 40 years, but are we
to be an electric bass guitar group only?  If yes, then lets be
rec.guitar.bass (or whatever) if not, then lets be rec.bass (same
disclaimer).  I feel that our name should reflect what we're about in as
precise a manner as possible.
 
>Steve Schmidt			<><		   whale@leland.stanford.edu
>
>"We have met the enemy and he is us" - Walt Kelly
 
just my opinion (no flames intended on anyone)
 
brian
adcbb@vm.cc.latech.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: barsz@bmtlh168.BNR.CA (Peter Barszczewski)
Subject: Re: I STILL don't play a guitar
Reply-To: barsz@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ltd.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 17:17:22 GMT


In article <1992Sep1.160412.5316@head-cfa.harvard.edu>,
eskridge@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Paul Eskridge) writes:
|> 
|> >This group is made up of bass guitar players and those interested in bass  
|> >guitar.
|> 
|> Never met anyone who played "bass guitar". . . 

Leo Fender called his invention a bass guitar, 'nuff said.

--
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(barsz@bnr.ca)                |        :    :    :    :    :    :    :
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From: mjm@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Michael Murphy)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Acoustic vs. Electric Basses....
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:05:53 GMT
	<1992Aug18.135723.22312@scubed.com>
	<1992Aug19.224757.14929@husc3.harvard.edu>
Reply-To: Michael Murphy <mjm@reef.cis.ufl.edu>
Organization: The Bookhouse Boys
In-reply-to: plopper@husc8.harvard.edu's message of 20 Aug 92 02:47:57 GMT

> you arrived at the decision to get a Clevinger- have you heard of a 
> "Carruthers" bass? Sam Ash in NYC told me they don't sell Clevingers
> any more because Carruthers basses are better, but no one seems to know
> (including EVERY salesperson I spoke to at Sam Ash) who Carruthers is
> or how I can get in contact with him. Ever hear of this? Also, for
> the East Coast folks: Mandolin Bros. in NY will also allow a "try it
> before you buy it" period with Clevingers. Three days, obligation-free.

Sam Ash has one of those Carruthers basses standing in the front window.
It's been there at least 8 months that i've seen.  And yeah, no one inside
knows much about it.  No one knows anything about the Chapman stick they've
had hanging inside with the guitars for over 8 months, either.  I guess those
people aren't that knowledgeable.

That Clevinger trial period at Mandolin Bros. is pretty cool, i might go for
that.  Gotta get my StingRay fretless 5-string, first, though.  How much are
those beasts (the Clevingers, that is) going for these days?
 
--

"Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball."
From: jpmakela@klaava.Helsinki.FI (J Pekka Makela)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Clevinger Price List
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:09:05 GMT
Distribution: alt.guitar.bass
Organization: University of Helsinki

plopper@husc8.harvard.edu (George Plopper) writes:
: For the interested folk:
: Clevinger makes three electric upright bass instruments.
: The Clevinger Upright is a full-scale upright bass (41 1/2" scale)
: The Clevinger Jr. is a short-scale upright (34" scale, same as bass guitar)
: The Clevinger Jr. Guitar is a Clevinger Jr. with a bass guitar body so it
: can be worn around the neck like a bass guitar.
: 
: The basses come standard with an ABST bridge pickup- you can add a RMC
: "String Sensor Saddle" for "pure string sound enhancement" and a mixing
: pot to balance the two sounds.

	The Clevinger Jr. Bass Guitar also features a Bartolini
	humbucker in the bridge position.

	Has anyone here actually used these? I've played one
	acoustically in a local dealer, and liked its acoustical
	sound and feel quite a lot (it was the 5-stringer).


					jP Makela
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:35:55 EDT
From: <LPR100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Poll: Best album for bass

Ooops, I guess I should put in a deadline for this. Please get all
entries to me by noon, Sunday August 6th. I'll post it that night.

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From: jonathan@mantis.co.uk (Jonathan Egre')
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Interested in going wireless
Date: 27 Aug 92 10:54:24 GMT
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw) writes:

> On a similar subject, a drummer friend of mine who is about to
> graduate from PIT in L.A. said that in his music business class, his
> teachers told him that there are 150,000 unsigned bands IN L.A. ALONE!
> Can this possibly be true?!  Gawd, I suppose it ain't so bad slogging
> it out in a relatively small market like the Balto/D.C. scene...

At a rough guess, this is the equivalent of 50% of the entire population of 
Los Angeles between the ages of 15 and 25 (both genders) being in a band.
Presumably the other 50% are trying to break into movies :-)

I certainly could not believe this statistic if it was said of any other 
city in the world.  Perhaps the teacher was deliberately exaggerating to 
drive home the idea that even PIT graduates will have a lot of competition.

--
Jonathan Egre' = jonathan@mantis.co.uk = jonathan_e@cix.compulink.co.uk
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: bill@verdix.com (William Spencer)
Subject: Re: I DO NOT play ANY kind of GUITAR!
Keywords: vote no, and tell `em why
Organization: Verdix Corp.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:50:24 GMT

andy@ice.stx.com (Andy Moore) writes:
>While we're at it, let's do it right!
>  rec.music.makers.guitar.bass
>  rec.music.makers.bass.guitar
>  rec.music.makers.bass.guitar.not
>  [etc.]

You forgot:
rec.music.makers.guitar.bass.newsgroup.name.too.long.to.type

Seriously, I've been appreciating recently how well named the bass guitar is.
I am now in a position in the guitar (heresy ;-) ) camp and looking for 
a bassist and/or guitarist (hey, anyone in the No. VA area, it's metallic and 
different). Some disagreement which one or both we really want or need
and I have come to the conclusion it doesn't necessarily matter. Both can play
rythm or lead, both can play bass lines, both can be trebly or bassy, clean
or effected...what matters is musical agreement and a sound that fits in.

bill s
From: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Interested in going wireless
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:43:10 GMT
	<WARSAW.92Aug26103351@anthem.nlm.nih.gov> <2ccn6f-.jimlynch@netcom.com>
Reply-To: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Organization: Century Computing, Inc.


    Jim> It's no joke. Nady's clubs _take_ instruments.

1. I wonder about the legality of this in general, but I suppose if
   you're stupid enough to sign such a contract, you get what you
   deserve.

2. I really can't believe *any* musician is stupid and/or desperate
   enough to sign such a contract.

3. If this is true, then I'm boycotting Nady's clubs (which is easy
   for me to say and do, since I live on the other end of the country)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: killer@psykoman.cs.hut.fi (Kalle Kivimaa)
Subject: Re: I DO NOT play ANY kind of GUITAR!
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, CS lab
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:46:43 GMT

In <1992Sep3.151621.29605@nstn.ns.ca> GEN2010@Husky1.StMarys.Ca (ROSS BILLARD) writes:
>being a guitar... just to keep things simpler, I think it should remain
>alt.guitar.bass.

Why should we lose all those bass players who have no alt-feed?
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: merk@unislc.uucp (John Merk)
Subject: RE: Interested in going wireless
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:23:46 GMT

Hi all!

I really appreciate all the responses I've gotten so far.  I'm saving
everything, including e-mail, and will send the whole thing to anyone
that's interested.

> Of course, before I plunk down the money I'm going to see if I can do 
> without my 1/4" umbilical cord, by testing out a Samson unit on a gig
> this weekend.

Well, I just got back from that gig and guess what? Noooo problem getting
around on stage!  I was jumping around, dancing, spining, doing the old
"Chuck Berry" kick thing, etc, etc.  The audience *loved* it and I had
a great time.  Sure stiffened-up afterwards though...oh well, now I have
some motivation for starting that workout program I've been avoiding ;-)

BTW, I was using a Samson SR-22 pretty much straight out of the box.  The
only adjustment I made was to boost the output.  There really didn't seem
to be anything else to adjust on the outside of the unit.  I did notice that
the cable from my P-bass to the transmitter was very sensitive to movement,
it would add just a little static on occasion.  However, I seem to recall
that the SR-22 requires a slight wiring modification if you use active
pickups, as I do.  So maybe this would have cleared that problem up.  Anyway
the additional noise was very slight and I was having too much fun to notice
once we got started.

Are there any Audio Technica users out there?  The bass player for the band
my group opened up for, Illustrator, uses an Audio Technica unit, rack-mount.
I've heard really good things about them, too.  They are more expensive, about
US $800 retail, though.  Still, I want something that's going to last for quite
awhile since there are other toys I'd like...

There was mention made about proper setup.  What sort of levels and adjustments
can/should be made?  Can the setup be done once or are there some things that
must be done on a gig-by-gig basis?

Thanks again for your help.

John

merk@unislc.slc.unisys.com
From: marshall1198@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: I STILL don't play a guitar
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:57:38 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Sep1.160412.5316@head-cfa.harvard.edu>, eskridge@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Paul Eskridge) writes:
> 
>>This group is made up of bass guitar players and those interested in bass  
>>guitar.

I believe that the name of the newsgroup is fine the way that it is.:

        alt.guitar.bass

> 
> I absolutely disagree.  I have only ever SEEN one instrument that I would call
> a "bass guitar".  It was an old Fender VI.  But even beyond my semantic
> exuberance, a large amount of traffic on this group concerns stand-up bass.
> There is simply no way to call a stand-up a "guitar", and not deserve to be
> laughed at for your efforts.

I don't think that you mean that the Fender VI is the only thing that is
classified a "bass guitar".  Obviously I would consider my Westone 5-string a
"bass guitar" also.  Maybe you can't call a double bass a guitar, but there is
a place for it in a bass newsgroup.  Look:   alt.guitar.BASS

No one is laughing.

> Never met anyone who played "bass guitar". . . 

I have.

> Paul

Take care,
Evan

Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: lynch@ils.nwu.edu (Richard Lynch)
Subject: Re: A couple of questions
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:45:45 GMT

In article <BtM6vE.10z@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> giguere@csg.uwaterloo.ca (Eric Giguere) writes:
>Here's a couple of questions for you all:
>
>1) I picked up some cello music the other day because I thought it would be
>   good for practicing and you can't find much for solo bass violin.  OK,
>   everything's fine so far, but while perusing through the cello parts I've
>   noticed that the cello seems to have the same range as my electric bass --
>   the lowest note I saw was an E below the bass clef, which corresponds
>   to my E string, no?  Now since the cello is smaller than a bass violin,
>   shouldn't its range be higher?  Is cello music actually written an octave
>   lower than it is played?
>

I think it's that bass is an octave lower than what is actually written...
Some music theorist is gonna flame if (when) I'm wrong, though.
-- 
"TANSTAAFL"     lynch@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Flecktones on Tube
From: hayden@vax.sonoma.edu
Date: 26 Aug 92 08:45:48 -0800
Organization: Sonoma State University

I've manage to catch the Flecktones several times on the tube and the 
best instance of their work is the Jacksonvill VII festival on A&E. 
They played Michelle and Sinister Minister. Victor was great. They 
are also on a Lonesome Pine show but I missed that one. If anyone 
knows when this show might be on in the Bay Area, I'd appreciate a 
posting. Victor Wooten is my latest idol. He has a real mastery of 
arpeggios that I merely dream about.
From: friedman@col.hp.com (John Friedman)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Stewart MacDonald contact info ?????
Date: 31 Aug 92 04:28:36 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

shawn@monitor.com writes:
> can someone post or email me a phone number for the Stewart MacDonald folks?
> Please excuse any spelling errors of their name!
> 
> Also, does anyone know of other such mail-order outfits that have good people,
> good stuff, and good prices?

Musician's Friend        1-800-776-5173
Sam Ash                  1-800-472-6274
Thoroughbred             1-800-800-4654
Bill's Music House       1-800-828-0023
Los' Music               1-800-786-7302
Sound Southwest          1-800-342-4327
American Musical Supply  1-800-458-4076
Stewart MacDonald's      1-800-848-2273
Music Emporium           1-800-648-8460
 
John Friedman
friedman@col.hp.com
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: gen4052@husky1.stmarys.ca
Subject: Should I buy this??
Organization: St. Mary's University, Halifax, N.S., Canada
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:14:01 GMT

I'm looking for a new Bass guitar to buy to get into playing, I'm just 
starting out, so I know very little. I'm looking for something to play
mostly rock and metal on... 

Someone I know is selling a Series-A with 4 pickups and 2 humbuckers for 
$275 Canadian (Slightly more than $275 US) In excellent condition, no 
scratches or whatnot. Is this a good deal?
From: mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Strings Cleaning (no pun intended)
Date: 2 Sep 1992 23:10:19 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdacs.ucsd.edu

In article <x-jnfsa.jimlynch@netcom.com> jimlynch@netcom.com (Jim Lynch) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.221729.12426@unislc.uucp> jes@unislc.uucp (Jon Seaman) writes:
>>I used to boil my strings after every other gig.  The idea
>>being to put some snap back into the tone by removing all the 
>>oils and dirt from your hands that had accumulated while playing.
>>This seemed to work well and was a hell of a lot cheaper than
>>buying new strings all the time.   I recently switched to rubbing
>>alcohol on the advice of a fellow Bassist.  He said that boiling 
>>your strings reduced the temper of the metal (or some shit like that
>>
>>This works well also, but I`d like to hear some learned opinions
>>about string cleaning.
>>
>>Thanks in advance. 
>
>Boiling does take away from your tone; try Windex to cleanse the strings then
>follow with alcohol. _Warning_: Get the alcohol up quickly; don't let it stay
>on plastic parts.
>
>Also, _wash_ your hands before touching your strings.
>
>-Jim (jimlynch@netcom.com -- all iMho.)

Whoa-I hope everyone knows to take them off the instrument before applying
chemicals to them!  Certainly before boiling them...

Michael Breen
singing and philosophizing
(and just kidding, after all...)
From: crowe@steamers.Eng.Sun.COM (Robert Crowe)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Band seeks drummer
Date: 3 Sep 1992 22:30:04 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: ba
Reply-To: crowe@steamers.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: steamers


Band Seeks Drummer
------------------
The band I'm in has lost it's drummer, so we're out looking for a
new one.  We're based in Santa Cruz and Los Gatos, CA, so we're
looking for someone who lives within driving distance.  Here's
the lowdown:

MUSIC:  REM, U2, Jesus Jones, Elvis Costello, Talking Heads,
        and various old rockers like Hendrix, Doors, Stones, etc.
        Some originals, but not enough to fill sets.

ATTITUDE:   We do this as a hobby, for fun.  We all have careers, 
        and music doesn't pay our bills.  We want to sound as good
        as possible.  The main focus is to enjoy making music.

LEVEL:  We've all played in various bands for several years, so I
        guess I'd classify us as semi-professional.

GOALS:  We've gigged occasionally with this band before our drummer
        had to leave.  We'd like to do more of it, maybe once a
        month or so.  We also like to record.

FORMAT: Two guitars, one bass, looking for a drummer.  We might be
        adding keyboards as well.

If you're interested, email me at:

    Robert.Crowe@Eng.Sun.COM

Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: whale@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stephen Schmidt)
Subject: Re: I STILL don't play a guitar
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 17:05:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep03.011300.18997@slammer.UUCP> brad@slammer.UUCP (Brad Isley) writes:

>Hey!  You stole my line!  I heartily agree.  Leo Fender invented it.  He named
>it.  The name is "electric bass guitar".

Um, what do you call a Clevinger, then?
The instrument has progressed some in 40 years...
-- 
Steve Schmidt			<><		   whale@leland.stanford.edu

"We have met the enemy and he is us" - Walt Kelly
From: kevins@eng.auburn.edu (Kevin Sullivan)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Poll: Best album for bass
Date: 29 Aug 92 15:39:14 GMT
Organization: Auburn University Engineering

There's a lot of really excellent bass playing that is not on any album, 
but easily accessible.  On TV.  Listen to TV theme songs and commercials.

Some happenin' bass parts.  Those studio guys that do that stuff have to be 
really good, a lot of the parts are also improvised just just basic charts, 
not written out.  The stuff they're doing could give you some good ideas 
to incorporate into your own parts.  And it's good practice just figuring 
them out.

Dig.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:22:50 EDT
From: Karl Nordstrom <KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: cello v bass
Distribution: na

bilbo@glockenspiel.cis.ohio-state.edu (William H Stoner III) says:

>Cellos...                ...scale length is about a half-inch
>shorter than electric.  If I remeber correctly the scale length
>of an upright is somewhere around 41".

I read here in alt.guitar.bass that a 1/2 size bass has a scale
length of about the same length as the electric bass guitar.
Does that mean that a full size bass has a scale length of 2x26"?

Karl Nordstrom,    kxn2@psuvm.psu.edu -or- KXN2 AT PSUVM.BITNET