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From: soley@trop32.enet.dec.com (Norm Soley)
Subject: Re: FAQ
Organization: Digital Equipment of Canada
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 15:58:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.133034.1@pomona.claremont.edu> rlai@pomona.claremont.edu writes:
>-----------
>Books on Audio (read by Dave himself!)
>-----------
>Dave Barry's Only Travel Guide You'll Ever Need
>Dave Barry Slept Here

"Claw Your Way to the Top" is also available as a book on cassette, it's
in the professional development library at my office.

>----------------
>Dave's Articles:
>----------------
[...]
>CANADA
>Montreal Gazette, Sundays
>"Sunday Daily News," Nova Scotia, Matinee section?
>Edmonton Journal, Sunday, `Life' section usually

Toronto Star, Sundays, `People' section

-- 
    Norman Soley, Specialist, Digital Integrations Services,  ITC District
    Digital Equipment of Canada                   soley@trooa.enet.dec.com
    Opinions expressed are mine alone  and do not reflect those of Digital 
    Equipment Corporation or my cat Marge.
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From: jmcbride@ccvax.ucd.ie
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dave_barry
Subject: Re: FW: Dave Barry running for office?
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:04:56 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

In article <greg.715014964@duke>, greg@Quotron.COM (Greg "Maddog" Knauss) writes:
>>#								Come to
>>#think of it, did you notice you never see Dave and Al together?
>>
>>Well, have you ever seen Dave Barry and Al Gore together?
> 
> And, thinking about it, we've never seen Dave Barry and Al Gore together!
Well, *I've* certainly never seen Dave Barry and Al Gore together

james p mc bride
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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: FAQ
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 01:14:20 GMT

Dave's column also appears Mondays in the Winnipeg Free Press, in
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada...in the Tempo section.

I've also seen it in the Toronto Star.

And...seeing as this IS an international newsgroup, you may want to
put in the international rates for Comic Relief:

          US $35 for 12 issues
          US $65 for 24 issues

You're welcome!

Michael
Organization: Senior, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dave_barry
Date: Wed,  2 Sep 1992 22:48:29 -0400 
From: Jason Lee Smith <js06+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: FAQ

Where can a Dave Barry For President bumper sticker be obtained.


		Jason

"Only the mediocre are always at their best."

Jean Giraudoux
From: jessop@ljohub.enet.dec.com (Class Dinosauria)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dave_barry
Subject: Re: Dave's Band: Rock Bottom Remainders
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:15:24 GMT
Reply-To: jessop@ljohub.enet.dec.com (Class Dinosauria)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Has anyone heard them?  How do they sound/look?

Mike
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From: greg@Quotron.COM (Greg "Maddog" Knauss)
Subject: Re: FW: Dave Barry running for office?
Organization: Quotron System, Inc.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:16:04 GMT

>#								Come to
>#think of it, did you notice you never see Dave and Al together?
>
>Well, have you ever seen Dave Barry and Al Gore together?

And, thinking about it, we've never seen Dave Barry and Al Gore together!
--
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From: ted@telematics.com (Ted Goldblatt)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dave_barry
Subject: Re: hurricane Andrew
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:03:04 GMT
Organization: Telematics Intl., Inc.; Ft. Lauderdale, FL

In article <1992Aug24.021851.10093@morrow.stanford.edu> steve@sep.Stanford.EDU (Steve Cole) writes:
>I wonder if Dave is evacuating in preparation for hurricane
>Andrew? I am looking forward to hearing about it, wondering if
>he will tie together Andrew's rage and Fergie's misbehavior, or
>something weird like that.
>

He had an article in today's Miami Herald describing the start of his
cleanup afterward (his house wasn't badly damaged, but his yard "looked
like it had been landscaped by Godzilla", etc).  I didn't read the
whole thing yet, but it appears to be a "funny" rather than "serious"
article, although (as he said) it's hard to be funny about what 
happened, and he can't really feel sorry for himself, considering that
his house was basically OK, and compared to what the situation is
further south.

He _did_ evacuate - he was certainly in the evacuation zone.  The
article said he spent the night with some friends and a very
flatulent dog (he said that was probably due to air pressure).

ted


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    Telematics Intl., Inc.   Ft. Lauderdale, FL
From: mystical@nmt.edu (Gurupartap Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dave_barry
Subject: Re: FW: Dave Barry running for office?
Date: 3 Sep 92 06:41:00 GMT
Organization: New Mexico Tech

In article <mjenkins.715276571@cunews> mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes:
>In <1992Aug28.190456.49578@ccvax.ucd.ie> jmcbride@ccvax.ucd.ie writes:
>
>>In article <greg.715014964@duke>, greg@Quotron.COM (Greg "Maddog" Knauss) writes:
>>>>#								Come to
>>>>#think of it, did you notice you never see Dave and Al together?
>>>>
>>>>Well, have you ever seen Dave Barry and Al Gore together?
>>> 
>>> And, thinking about it, we've never seen Dave Barry and Al Gore together!
>>Well, *I've* certainly never seen Dave Barry and Al Gore together
>
>And you know what...reading this message I realized I'd never seen
>Dave Barry and Al Gore together!
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From: steve@sep.Stanford.EDU (Steve Cole)
Subject: hurricane Andrew
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 02:18:51 GMT

I wonder if Dave is evacuating in preparation for hurricane
Andrew? I am looking forward to hearing about it, wondering if
he will tie together Andrew's rage and Fergie's misbehavior, or
something weird like that.

Comment on this week's column, you may want to skip if you 
haven't read it...

I liked this week's column, especially the analogy between
songs on the radio and presedential candidates - we don't get
what we really want, we just have to choose from among the mediocre
offerings.
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Steve Cole  (steve@sep.stanford.edu, apple!sep!steve)
Department of Geophysics, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305
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From: achappy@ecr.mu.oz.au (Anthony_Kiltore CHAPMAN)
Subject: Re: Hardback Belgariad?
Summary: Two volume Belgariad??
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:46:13 GMT


A few years ago , my local library had a two volume hardcover
compendium of The Belgariad.I think it has been stolen because
I haven't seen it recently.
  Has anyone else heard of this compendium?



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From: mja@gold.KPC.Com (Michael Abbott)
Subject: Re: Dryad progeny
Followup-To: alt.fan.eddings
Reply-To: mja@gold.KPC.Com (Michael Abbott)
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer, Inc.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 00:47:16 GMT

wardw@CS.ColoState.EDU (william bradley ward) writes
> In one of the books, Polgara relates that the Dryad line always breeds true
> on the female side.  there are no male Dryads.  The female dryads kidnap
> healthy young males for mating (and fun!) purposes.

How about this:  Dryad progeny are always female and 100% dryad, except in
the one instance between C'nedra and Garion in which the Prophecy overrode
that and forced the male Rivan heir who had to be abducted as one of the
conditions of the final meeting.

Or maybe:  Dryad progeny are always female and 100% dryad, except in the one
instance between C'nedra and Garion in which the Orb of Aldur overrode that
and forced a male Rivan heir because the first-born child of the King of Riva
(and keeper of the Orb) is always male (it says that somewhere I think).
--
Michael J. Abbott		mja@kpc.com
Kubota Pacific Computer Inc.	Santa Clara, CA		408-987-3303
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From: ajc@pa.dec.com (AJ Casamento)
Subject: Re: Hardback Belgariad?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
	<AJC.92Aug26191214@thendara.pa.dec.com>
Date: 27 Aug 92 06:57:55


It seems that there's been an address change for the SF Book Club, the address
in a recent edition of Isacc Asimov's Science Fiction Magazine reads:

	The Science Fiction Book Club

	6550 East 30th Street
	PO Box 6367
	Indianapolis, Indiana 
			46206-6367

One of the books they were offering as an introductory offering in the ad was:

	Sorceress of Darshiva  Pulisher's Price $19.95 US,  Club Price $9.98 US

The $19.95 price matches the price on the dust jacket of my own hardback copy
and the artwork in the ad is a match for it as well. So, maybe they only put
new artwork on the 5 book in two volume edition.

Please note, I am not connected with these folks at all (nor even a member at
the moment). It's just where I got hardback editions of the Belgariad.

				Thanx,
				  AJ


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Date: Wed,  2 Sep 1992 17:38:45 -0400 
From: "Jeffrey E. Byrne" <jbcj+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Sorcery
	<9224610.24890@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>



In article <1992Sep1.201537.22813@hippo.ru.ac.za>, g92k4260@ru.ac.za
(Bryan Kilian) writes:
> S961246@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU wrote:
> > If I remember correctly, didn't Belgarath at one point in the series
make a sta
> > tment to the effect of Sorcery only being effective at the time it
is used, but
> >  that the effect lingers as long as the sorceror (or sorceress) is alive ?
> >  Case in point: when Zandramas set the confusion spell on the Mrin
Codex which
> > functioned until broken.
> 
> It wasn't Zandramas that set the confusion spell. The person that did set it
> was never actually mentioned, but Zandramas only became powerful after Torak
> died and the compulsion was put on when the codex was written. Does anyone
> have any ideas as to who _did_ put that compulsion on the codex?


	In response to "Squidgy@ecr.mu.oz.au", I don't believe that either
Urvon or the Dark prophecy put the compulsion on the Mrin Codex.  It
must have been the other prophecy,the Light Prephecy, who put the
compulsion there so that no one other than Garion would be able to look
at the contents contained therein.   It was the prophecy who came to
Garion in his Library and told him that there was a much faster way to
look through all of the prophecies, and that way was to look at them in
the light of the Orb.  Also, the prophecy told Garion that it was he who
"possessed" the Mrin Prophet and "told" him what to write down.  (I
can't remember the exact place, but it is in the early books in the
Mallorean)  Therefore, because of what had happened in all the other
confrontations, the Light Prophecy knew that the child of light would
have control over the orb at the time of the meeting, so therefore, he
must have known that only the child of light would be able to read the
Mrin Codex, so he left a hidden message that only the child of light
could read.  Therefore, the light prophecy left the compulsion there so
that only the Holder of the Orb (in this case Garion), could read the
special instruction meant solely for him.

							
						Jeffrey Byrne
From: U60145@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: Re: Sorcery
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:22:20 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

I think that the Prophecy of Light did not directly make Belgarath react so
violently, but that the spell that was placed there did.  If Belgarath had
read that section a thousand years before, the information might have gotten
around, whether through word of mouth or a corrected version of the scroll.
The spell wasn't broken after Garion read it because it still was to be kept
from people's general knowledge.

I do have one question though -- if the orb was required to break the spell's
urging at a person to ignore the passage (as it was with Garion and Belgarath),
then how was it that Beldin read it.  If I remember correctly, a while after,
Beldin is talking to Garion and says something like "Belgarath showed me what
you found in the codex -- good work.  I can't believe we missed that all this
time."  How did HE see it without the orb?

Grant

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From: iwilliam@au.oracle.com (Ian Williams)
Subject: An heir
Organization: Oracle Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 23:28:50 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

Someonme may be able to tell me just WHY Belgarion needed an heir when he
was to all extents and purposes immortal... Would Riva have been so concerned
about a lack of an heir???



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From: chris@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Casey)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: Re: COVINGTON CROSS
Date: 3 Sep 92 06:37:33 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

ok, just out of curiosity, & at the risk of getting flamed, *why* is Covington
Cross historically inaccurate?  Granted, I have a few ideas, but I was enjoying
it too much to pay attention to stuff like that.  Besides, I never made a habit
of studying Medieval England in detail (even tho I am in the SCA).  So, what's
wrong with it historically?




Chris
 
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From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Re: Questions
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:35:01 PDT

In article <1992Sep2.101923.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk>, cbar26@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>In some article or other I (Greg the blatherer) blather:
>  
>> Is Durnik ever actually called a disciple of Aldur?  Again, maybe it's
>> toward the end of _The Malloreon_.  But at least up through the halfway
>> point in _Sorceress of Darshiva_ he isn't.
> 
> At the beginning of Seeress, Belgarath tells Polgara that Durnik should have a
> tower in the Vale as all the others have one - also to get peace from her;-).

Yup.  I just finished _Sorceress_, and Durnik is named a disciple in the
last scene.  Maybe I should stick to comments about _The Belgariad_ from
now on...  :-)

--
|  Greg Orman                         greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|     A man's best friends:  a Harley, a Beretta and a Gund.     |
From: cantor@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (scott eric cantor)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: Re: Sorcery
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:09:00 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science

In article <92247.152220U60145@uicvm.uic.edu> <U60145@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>time."  How did HE [Beldin] see it without the orb?
>
>Grant
>

	Wasn't the spell broken when Garion showed it to Belgarath?  I thought
I remembered something like that from the book.

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	ps. to the previous poster who asked if Nigel Terry was King Arthur,
		you are correct.
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From: pad@probitas.cs.utas.edu.au (Paul A Daniels)
Subject: Re: Hardback Belgariad?
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:34:45 GMT

In <a133PB2w165w@halcyon.com> Sarah Skovronsky <sparky@halcyon.com> writes:

>Is there a hardback version of the Belgariad?  I've heard that it's only
>possible to get it in the UK.  I'd be willing to pay postage and price, etc.,
>if I could get these books. 

>Sarah Skovronsky
>Please email sparky@halcyon.com...thanks.

	Wow, you mean the hardbacks may still be available??? If anyone has
any info on where and how to get these could they PLEASE bounce a message
my way about it.

	Thanks, 
		Paul.

pad@probitas.cs.utas.edu.au
From: solaris@cats.ucsc.edu (Sheree Lynn Kibby)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: Re: Hardback Belgariad?
Date: 26 Aug 92 23:20:46 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


pad@probitas.cs.utas.edu.au (Paul A Daniels) writes:

>In <a133PB2w165w@halcyon.com> Sarah Skovronsky <sparky@halcyon.com> writes:

>>Is there a hardback version of the Belgariad?  I've heard that it's only
>>possible to get it in the UK.  I'd be willing to pay postage and price, etc.,
>>if I could get these books. 


>	Wow, you mean the hardbacks may still be available??? If anyone has
>any info on where and how to get these could they PLEASE bounce a message
>my way about it.

I had heard that you can get them somewhere in Europe, however they cost around
$500.00 for the set and you can't buy them separately.  I have no clue as to
the publisher or anything, though.  We've discussed this one before, and someone
knew how to get ahold of them.  Anyone out there remember what you had to 
do to find them?


Sheree Kibby	
solaris@cats.UCSC.edu	
CIS/CE Department		
"Revolver of Worlds"
From: chbaumga@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Chris Baumgartner)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: The Sapphire Rose (No Spoilers)
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:28:03 GMT

Well fellow Eddings fans, I just finished the Sapphire Rose yesterday and I
had to say that it was an excellent book, much better than The_Ruby_Knight.
In fact, The_Sapphire_Rose makes the Elenium worth reading. Now I have to
wait for the Tamuli, which hopefully will be much better than the Mallorean.
( Meaning that the Mallorean was the second set of adventures with Garion & co. 
while the Tamuli is the second set of adventures with Sparhawk & co.)
Just my $0.02 worth.

PS Try reading Tad Williams, Guy Gavriel Kay, or Robert Jordan for a change.
--
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                 Member: League For Programming Freedom
         Why I'm in Computer Science & Engineering, Reason #5:
          I thought CSE stood for "College of Sex Education"             
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From: proct_hately@hg.uleth.ca (Kintair of Hawkehaven MKA Bill Hately)
Subject: Re: Dryad progeny
Reply-To: proct_hately@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:18:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.004716.5300@kpc.com>, mja@gold.KPC.Com 
(Michael Abbott) writes:
>wardw@CS.ColoState.EDU (william bradley ward) writes
>> In one of the books, Polgara relates that the Dryad line always breeds true
>> on the female side.  there are no male Dryads.  The female dryads kidnap
>> healthy young males for mating (and fun!) purposes.
>
>How about this:  Dryad progeny are always female and 100% dryad, except in
>the one instance between C'nedra and Garion in which the Prophecy overrode
>that and forced the male Rivan heir who had to be abducted as one of the
>conditions of the final meeting.
>
>Or maybe:  Dryad progeny are always female and 100% dryad, except in the one
>instance between C'nedra and Garion in which the Orb of Aldur overrode that
>and forced a male Rivan heir because the first-born child of the King of Riva
>(and keeper of the Orb) is always male (it says that somewhere I think).
>--
>Michael J. Abbott		mja@kpc.com

What about the House of Bourne (sp?)
Bill H.
Kintair of Hawkehaven          | Bill Hately   | Talk (403) 381-1741
Shire of Windwyrm              | Lethbridge AB | proct_hately@hg.uleth.ca
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An Tir (I wouldn't dream of subjecting any corp. or Educational Institution to
        these opinions, so they certainly aren't the opinions of the UofL)
  (And I'm not an officer of the SCA so I can't have an official opinion There
              - even if I wanted to )
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From: chris@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Casey)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: Re: Questions
Date: 3 Sep 92 06:51:45 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Sep1.151227.1@pomona.claremont.edu> greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger) writes:
>
>Is Durnik ever actually called a disciple of Aldur?  Again, maybe it's
>toward the end of _The Malloreon_.  But at least up through the halfway
>point in _Sorceress of Darshiva_ he isn't.
>
I wish I had the books here with me as a reference, but I don't, so I can't say
exactly in which book Durnik became a disciple, but I do remember the scene.  
It was when Durnik grew to the size of the demons & sent Nahaz, Urvon, & the 
other Demon Lord (I'll be damned if I can remember the name) back to where they
came from with his hammer (which turned back into an amulet afterwards).  Then
a voice spoke saying that Durnik was his newest disciple & Beldin & Belgarath 
started referring to him as "brother".  I'm not positive about what happened to
the demons & Urvon, but I got the general gist of it.

Of course, lets simply avoid the wars on incestral implications by saying the 
Sorcerers & Durnik has no previous blood ties...:)

About the gender of Polgara's babies, there was no actual direct reference to 
the gender.  I know, cuz it frustrated the hell out of me, but I would probably
have to agree with anyone that guessed 2 girls....



Chris
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From: asher@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (Marnita Asher)
Subject: Re: Questions
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 04:40:16 GMT

In article <Btw2Cv.u2@brunel.ac.uk> you write:
>Hokay, have just finished the Seeress, after re-reading all nine other
>books immediately before, and have a few simple questions....
>

I also have just re-read all ten books.  I will attempt to answer some 
questions, but I'm afraid for some, there are no answers.

>1) What is on Belgareths' Amulet?  Polgara has an owl (I believe),
>Ce'Nedra a tree, Belgarion the orb and Durnik a hammer, but I can't find
>anywhere any comments about Belgareths' design. I assume that it must be
>a wolf, but no confirmation anywhere in the book.
>

I am sure that somewhere in the Belgariad it is mentioned that Belgareth's is
a wolf.  Look at the section where Ce'Nedra gets hers, I think in the third
book.  Maybe the fourth.

>2) Why is Durnik not re-named Beldurnik after he becomes recognised as a
>disciple of Aldur?

Actually, I think this is sloppiness, but you could pose the theory that
Durnik is a very simple, unpretentious man.  The Bel is a bit ostensious.

>3) What happens to Beldin and Vella?

I think that Beldin turned them into hawks permanently.  They will have 
sorcerers' life spans though.

>4) Why are the twins not in the Mallorean at all?

No answer.  My best guess:  the Mallorean, compared to the Belgariad, contains
very little sorcery.  The twins are portrayed as too sweet and nice to relay
on devious cunning to sneak after Zandramas, so they stayed in the Vale.
Besides, I would guess that there are other things going on, other plots that
Zandramas has set in motion, other evils that have nothing to do with Zandramas
that the twins may be dealing with.

>5) What sex are Polgaras' children?

If she didn't have two girls, I'll eat my shoes.

Marnita


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