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From: be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Filking...I'm new to the
Date: 12 Dec 1992 19:08:55 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, Eric.Troup@ofa123.fidonet.org () says:

>Hi.  I'm pretty new to the idea of filksongs.  I've only heard a few
>of them, and most of the ones I've heard of deal with books I haven't
>read...but I'm a bit confused as to what exactly constitutes a filk
>song.  They're not really parodies, because many of the songs I have
>heard aren't humorous.  I'd like to start writing some of my own, but
>figured I ought to have a better grasp of what I'm getting into.
>Besides <Grin>, I don't play guitar.  I play keyboard.  I've heard
>that's...er...a bit frowned upon as a "non-tradition" or something.
>
>... Stay alert, trust no one, and keep your laser handy!
>___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10
>
>--- Maximus 2.00
>


Yeah, when keyboards first came out they were looked on with some derision
by a lot of  filkers... I know this from experience. However, it ain't that
way no morwe[D
way no more, and there are a few of us around at the cons. I personally use
an Ensoniq VFXsd, and have an Apex Column stand w/ a mic boom. unless you
play VERY softly, I'd suggest using a mic when filking in a large room with
a keyboard. Not so much for absolute volume, but just to reinforce your 
voice a bit. it"s easy  to get buried without it. 

RE: defingin
RE: Defining "filk"... the definition _I_ prefer is "Music relating to science,
science fiction, fantasy or horror." Just about everything commonly called
"filk" fits into at least one of those areas... and if it's poloitical in
nature, it fits into ALL of them! <<grin>>

I'm glad to see another keyboard filker in here... now I don't feel QUITE so
outnumbered!

(Any sax players around?)
-- 
 Joe Ellis  o/~ The Synthetic Filker o/~    |     TesserAct Studios
     Internet:   usr6184a@cbos.uc.edu       |       P.O. Box 18577
        GEnie:   J.ELLIS22                  |     Fairfield, OH 45018
    All filked up and no place to sing!     |   New Dimensions In Filk!
From: Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Julia Ecklar (was: Re: Hu
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 12 Dec 92  10:47:31

On <Dec 08 06:36>, Harry Smothers (1:120/281) wrote to Joseph A. Ellis Jr.:

 HS>And on the question of the *demise* of OCP, I had thought that it 
 HS>was 
 HS>not a demise but a changeover.  But there's no use reopening 

It's dead. 

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From: Bob.Hirschfeld@p2.f74.n114.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: All these X-mas Filks
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 12 Dec 92  18:24:00

> Have a nagila, have two nagilas, have three nagilas, they're very small.
 
Have a "Neghila," gefilte cigarette.....
 
(Come to think of it, there haven't been singing cigarette commercials for a
VERY long time!)

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From: Mary.Creasey@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Any amf dealers that have KoF CD?
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 10 Dec 92 08:44:41

I have two left; Eoin, you're first, as Eli's got one now. (Actually 
three, but one's on reserve.) E-mail me for details.
(mary.creasey@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org--or Mary Creasey 1:102/524,
depending on which net you're on.)


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From: Scott.Malcomson@f110.n114.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Pagan yule carols
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 13 Dec 92  13:50:00

 Julie Rhodes denied allegations of involvement with Harry Smothers over Pagan 
yule carols:

 JR> * SLMR 2.1a * The cat was created when the lion sneezed (Arab myth)

My GOD, that's one nasty hairball he horfed up... };^>


---LCD


... Put on your seatbelt... I wanna try something!
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From: UUCP@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: What Song Is This?
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:29:24 GMT
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992

From: phydeaux@cumc.cornell.edu 
From  ucivax!pathmac.med.cornell.edu!cumc.cornell.edu!phydeaux

> KS> Moreta, Pern Weyrwoman
> KS> Rode a lovely golden queen
> KS> Charmed all the folk who saw them
> KS> Gliding through the air serene
> 
>         AAAAAAUUGGHHH!!!!!!!!!!
>         Kay, that's perverted! (i love it)

Are you sure that you didn't mean Pern-verted?




--
Dave Weingart   KB2CWF      In the event I am captured or killed, the Cornell
phydeaux@cumc.cornell.edu   University Medical College and the Office of 
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From: chris@keris.demon.co.uk (Chris Croughton)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Filking...I'm new to the
Date: 20 Dec 92 17:09:20 GMT
Organization: Keristor Systems
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)

In article <1gtb83INNk78@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
            be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:

>Hmmm, looking at the indexes for "Paradox" and "Escape From Mundania", out of
>thirty songs, I see exactly  4 that re: fandom or filk. Possibly 5, if you
>include "Relativity Paradox Calypso" that only mentions fandom briefly. The
>others are "Con Man Blues", "Flying Island Farewell", "Mundania", and
>"Stairway to Fandom".
>
>Four out of thirty doesn't exactly sound like it's a major component of their
>work. Sure, there are a lot of self-referential songs out there, but as Bill
>said, at least here in the Midwest, it's not a dominant aspect of Filk.

An interesting cultural difference.  In Britain, at least half of the
songs in the books are fandom or filking related, and I would guess that
a similar proportion of the songs that are sung are the same (I looked
in the books).

We also have a high proportion of filks of other filksongs, compared to
the number of original tunes or filks of 'mundane' songs.  On the
British filktapes the proportion of original tunes is somewhat higher,
of course, as generally people who go to the trouble of making tapes
want to promote their own work.

***********************************************************************
*  chris@keris.demon.co.uk      *                                     *
*  chriscr@cix.compulink.co.uk  *  FIAWOL (Filking Is A Way Of Life)  *
*  100014.3217@compuserve.com   *                                     *
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From: Dave.Aronson@p11.f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: lords of the dance
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 17 Dec 92  14:46:44

rgs+@cs.cmu.edu (Robert Stockton) writes:

 RS> roper@chinet.chi.il.us (Bill Roper) writes:

 RS> Our velocity increases as we fall through the air
 RS> Thirty-two feet per second every second we are there \ <discounting air
 RS> And when we are falling fast as we can go           \ resistance>
 RS> We will come into contact with the ground below.

 We'll fall to the sidewalk and stain it a pretty red,
 We'll fall like apples on old Sir Isaac's head,
 And when our speed is as high as it can be,
 We'll know why they call it terminal velocity!

 CHORUS

 We'll fall from the balcony and fall from the roof,
 We'll fall from grace for this disgusting spoof,
 We'll fall from the Tree of Life and rot on the ground,
 And when we hit we'll emit a horrid sound!

 CHORUS

--- Maximus 2.01wb
From: Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Xenofilkia
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 09 Dec 92  09:01:37

On <Dec 06 05:13>, Neal Feldman (1:105/605) wrote to Steve Brinich:

 NF>Anyone know if Lee is on this conference?

Afraid not - she has an account on the Aerie but rarely calls.  Frankly
considering all the irons she has in the fire I'm constantly amazed Lee has
time to breathe! 

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From: Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Christmas Filks
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 14 Dec 92  08:43:00

On <Dec 11 03:02>, Allan Burrows (1:250/338) wrote to All:

 AB>        Rudolph's Ride, Kay? And you missed the obvious tune???

Note the date (1989) - Kerowin's Ride hadn't been WRITTEN yet - and the tune I 
used was Moreta's Ride.... 

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From: Dave.Aronson@p11.f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: lords of the dance
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 11 Dec 92  09:59:52

DA>My memory, which may also be faulty, says:
DA> Dance, dance, wherever you may be
DA> For I am the Lord of the Dance, you see
DA> I will live in you, if you'll live in me
DA> For I am the Lord of the Dance, said He.

 BL> Try this (I'm pretty sure this is the accurate version!)
 BL>   Dance, dance, wherever you may be
 BL>   I am the Lord of the Dance, said he.
 BL>   And I'll lead you all wherever you may be,
 BL>   And I'll lead you all in the Dance, said he.
 BL> (or is that last line ...
 BL>   For I am the Lord of the Dance, said He.) ?

I know I've heard it several times with the "live in" bit.  Maybe they were
singing it wrong, or it's the infamous Folk Process at work....


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From: Uucp@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: I-Con XII Filksong Contest
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 14 Dec 92  18:44:01

From  ucivax!pathmac.med.cornell.edu!cumc.cornell.edu!phydeaux
From: phydeaux@cumc.cornell.edu ("The person your mother warned you about" )
To:   filk@ofa123.fidonet.org
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 19:25:28 EST






                              Hey, kids, it's the

                           I-CON XII FILKSONG CONTEST

          I-Con (the East Coast one, not the older midwest Icon or the more
     recent Canadian I-Con) is having a go at its annual filksong contest.
     The contest is open to any sentient being, whether or not they plan on
     being at the con, and any filk that fits the following criteria:

     1)   Filksongs must be at least partly original -- words and/or music
          must be original.  Be warned however, that if you write a new
          tune to someone else's words, you must have their permission (in
          writing, submitted with your entry) to use those words.

     2)   Lyrics must be submitted in typed, hardcopy form, or in flat
          ASCII on a PC or Mac diskette, or via private e-mail to the con-
          tact eddress at the bottom.  If you choose to use e-mail, please
          use the subject title of "CONTEST ENTRY" on your letter.

     3)   Lyrics must have been unpublished in paper or electronic form as
          of January 1st, 1992.  Things inflicted on the world after that
          date are fine and dandy.

     3)   Lyrics must include the name and copyright date, as well as some
          way of contacting the author (preferably snailmail).

     4)   ORIGINAL MUSIC REQUIRES A WRITTEN SCORE.

     5)   The deadline for entries is MARCH 1st, 1993.

          Cassette tapes of your entry (or entries) are highly recommended,
     especially if the tune is original (i.e., none of the judges knows it)
     or obscure (ditto).

          By entering the contest, you give us permission to reprint your
     song in our filkbook (which we may or may not print at any time in the
     near or distant future; there are no plans at this point, but we like
     to keep our options open).  However, we get no other rights to it --
     you retain the copyright (so include that copyright info, folks!).

          Questions and entries may be sent to:

                             I-CON FILKSONG CONTEST
                                  P.O. Box 550
                             Stony Brook, NY  11790

          People with Usenet/Internet access may also use:

                          phydeaux@cumc.cornell.edu



--
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phydeaux@cumc.cornell.edu   University Medical College and the Office of 
phydeaux@src4src.linet.org  Academic Computi###Pill disavow any knowledge of
                            my opinions.
From: sdavido@opie.bgsu.edu
Subject: Help!!!! Need Filk Info for Paper/Articl
Organization: Bowling Green State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 05:09:48 GMT

Help!
 
I'm a graduate student in Popular Culture at Bowling Green State University,
who is working on what is supposed to become teh first "scholarly"
definition paper on Filk Music. Needless to say, supposrt is not high 
from everyone here, most of whom want to know why I think no one knows
enough about "Folk Music."
 
I'd dearly love any information that can be sent to me, either over
the net, or preferably by Paper Snail Mail. My addresses are:
 
SDAVIDO@OPIE.BGSU.EDU

and
 
Solomon Davidoff
Department of Popular Culture
bowling Green State Universtiy
Bowling green, OH 43402
 
Thanks for your help!
 
-Solomon
 

AND BGSUDarertWho is working on
From: Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: A Furry Filk
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 14 Dec 92  08:53:30

On <Dec 11 02:54>, Allan Burrows (1:250/338) wrote to All:

 AB>  (They've) no claws to hold me and they couldn't purr
                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Wanna bet?  (I can - comes of having had a number of cats about when small and 
gotten curious about how they did it - enough so that I figured out how to do 
it myself.)

 

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Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:04:59 EST
From: John A. Jordan Ii. <JJ9262A@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Anyone know this one?

Anyone know the rest of the words to this song?  I ran across it in
"Prince of Mercenaries" by Jerry Pournelle.  I suspect that it's a real song
because he tends to use real songs.  If it's not, I like to see any filks that
anyone may have done based on it.  It goes something like:

     Here is my lance to be mended, haro!
     And here is my horse to be shot!
     Well sure they were strong,
     And the battle was long,
     And I paid as good as I got, haro!
     I paid as good as I got.

? :>
From: cri@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mr. PlEaSanT)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Cthulu mythos filk
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:07:56 GMT
Organization: We here at the Asylum don't think about that.
 School Groups: Treasurer A.R.S.A.
  Affiliations: None. I don't like anyone.
 Project: Twisting the minds of America's youth
 Where: Wish I could tell you...

a friend of mine wrote one a while ago.  I don't know the whole thing,
but the beginning goes...
(note : Manny, if you have net access I honestly can't remember if you or eddie
wrote this...)

(to the tune of "maria" from west side story)


Cthulhu...
I just met a god names Cthulhu.
And suddenly I see,
how horrible a name can be.
Cthulhu,
Say it loudly and he'll eat your soul...
Say it soft and he'll still eat your soul.
Cthulhu,
I'll never stop screaming Cthulhu!

criss

"Lie down on the floor and stay calm."
		-J.Dillinger
cri@acsu.buffalo.edu
From: Scott.Fridenberg@f901.n170.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Waltzing Matilda
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 12 Dec 92  12:15:00

* Replying to a message originally to Scott Friedenberg on 12-10-92

MH> Scott - The melody goes
MH> dum dee dee dum dum la da la da la la la
MH> la da da dee dum da dee dum dee dee

       Thanks.  BTW do you know the fingering for "dum" on a penny-whistle.  I 
can't find it in any of my books.  <grin>.
                                 Scott


... Shakra.  When the walls Fell.


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From: Pete.Granzeau@f236.n271.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Rush Limbaugh
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 14 Dec 92  18:23:00

SS> PG> It works fine to "Greensleeves", Beethoven's "Ode to Joy", or the
SS> PG> theme from the fourth movement of Brahms' first symphony, too.

SS>        I like the "Ode to Joy" suggestion, but I must admit, I don't know
SS>the theme from the fourth movement of Brahms' first symphony (at least, not
SS>that name).

Try this in GWBASIC:

 10 PLAY "t150"
 20 PLAY "o2l4gl2>cl4<b>c<l2al4g"
 30 PLAY "o3l4cdl8efl4ecl2d."
 40 PLAY "o2l4gl2>cl4<b>c<l2al4g"
 50 PLAY "o3l4cdl8efl4e<b>l2dc"
 55 IF I=1 THEN GOTO 100
 60 PLAY "o3l4dl8efl4eddl8efl4eddl8efl4e<bl2>ca"
 70 PLAY "o3l4gl8del4fl8gdl4el8d<al4b"
 80 PLAY "o2l4gl2a>l4feel8dcl4<b"
 90 I=1: GOTO 10
 100 END

That's not exactly right at the repeat, but it will give you an idea of
how it goes.

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From: Sherman.Dorn@p6.f715.n273.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: All these x-mas filks are making
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 08 Dec 92  12:29:21

On <05 Dec 92  21:32>, Mike Liebmann scribbled the following to All:

 ML> remember, when you go about x-mas-ing,
 ML> there are those who don't x-mas, and
 ML> try to remember to wish them whatever, be
 ML> it Hanukkah (which starts at sundown
 ML> 12/19), Idl-Fitr (sp? - a Moslem
 ML> holiday) or the winter solstice (12/21 or
 ML> 12/22, I forget).

I'm currently working on (or letting idle) a Lehreresque one on Greedfest (as 
Elizabeth and I call December holidays-run-amok).  
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From: Joe.Bethancourt@f72.n114.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: em-g chord changes, e
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 09 Dec 92  14:10:00

 -=> Usenet said to All on 12-07-92  09:44 <=-

 Us> Organization: Sophomore, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh,

 Us> Unfortunately, I don't know any music majors, nor has formal music
 Us> theory ever made sense to me.  I suspect I'll have to give into the
 Us> inevitable some year...

 Us> I was specifically wondering since I encountered it a while back
 Us> in the first two lines of Dawson's Christian (Em-G-D), and then noticed
 Us> again in _The Stand_ (Em-G-Am).  It sounded interesting both
 Us> times...sort of like changing keys, if it makes any sense. [Obviously,
 Us> it doesn't to me, or I wouldn't be asking... ;-]

Hee hee! It's one of the more interesting chordal relationships...Note:

In the key of C, the C chord is considered the "key" chord or the "root"
chord. The "key" chord is also commonly called the I chord. The other two
common chords in that key are the IV (F) and V (G) chords.

Now, if you count 6 chords up from each of those, you get the "relative
minors" of each, C = Am, F = Dm, and G = Em. On a guitar, you can use these
-in place of- the respective chords C6, F6 and G6!

Also, if any of these chords are being used as the IV chord in any key, then
you can use their relative minor seventh in place of them....i.e. in the key
of C, you can use Dm7 in place of F!

The minor keys are written in their relative majors, and the relative major
chord is part of that minor's chordal structure......

How'd I do, Mr. Ellis? <sitting back and chewing on a grass stem, looking
like an uneddikated hillbilly....>



... Set your Phrases on to 'Pun'!


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From: Scott.Malcomson@f110.n114.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Let's Have a P.C. X-Mass.
Date: 10 Dec 92 03:22:00 GMT
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992


 Major Matt Mason denied allegations of involvement with Scott Fridenberg over 
Let's Have a P.C. X-Mass.:

 MMM> Frosty the Snowperson
 MMM> Was a caring, mutual soul
 MMM> No corncob pipe, 'cause smoking's wrong
 MMM> Carrot eyes instead of coal

That does it. First drink at Confurence is on me.


---LCD


... Auntie Em! Auntie Em! Toto! Toto! ... KANEDAAAAAAAA! TETSUOOOOO!
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From: Sherman.Dorn@p6.f715.n273.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Scientific explanations of warp drive
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 11 Dec 92  00:03:58

                  Scientific Explanations of Warp Drive
     words by Sherman Dorn and Elizabeth Margareta Griffith, 1992
(to the tune of "Woman Piaba, Man Piaba," on Harry Belafonte Songbook)

When I was a lad just five-foot three,
certain questions appeared to me
so I asked Paramount quite seriously
to tell me about warp drive and c.
They stammered and stuttered pathetically,
and this is what they said to me:

     (Chorus:)
     Light is a barrier that we cannot pass,
     but the warp induction loop grows like grass.
     Square root, cube root, turnip root, oogh!
     And the stars zoom like that!

It was clear as mud but it covered the ground.
Confusion made my head go round.
When I thought of warp drive my brain turned to rot,
so I asked Chief Engineer Montgomery Scott.

     He said: Son,
The bonnie lass is hurt and canna go faster
Over her engines I am the master.
Sweating in the Jeffries Tube and swearing my best
gives dilithium a little zest.
Faking an accent and blowing the pipes
is the best way to reinforce a stereotype.
So if Spock's ear tip doesn't move,
I am positive that it will prove . . .

Chorus

It was clear as mud but it covered the ground.
Confusion made my head go round.
I was placed in stasis by Leonard McCoy
and a hundred years later asked Deanna Troy.
     
     She said:  Sir,
I feel that you are very mad
and to me as a counselor that makes me sad.
No one should be without an explanation
of the ship in this new generation.
Data's almost human and so is Riker.
Ro Laren is gruff, but we kind of like her.
The ensemble crew all has starred,
and we travel with the words of Jean-Luc Picard:

Chorus

I've now gone on a million-light-year trip
and don't even have myself a ship.
How can I pass the Starfleet tests
when the facts are such a pest?
I've seen all the episodes and read all the books
and the question always gets me dirty looks
and now that I intend to toss my tv,
I don't give a damn, you see, if . . .

Chorus

Words Copyright 1992 Sherman Dorn and Elizabeth Margareta Griffith.  You may
copy lyrics freely, but reproduce this notice and contact me if you wish to
publish this or produce it commercially.
--- via XCS 1.00
Organization: Sophomore, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA