HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jmctigue@.stern.nyu.edu (J C. McTigue)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: White Rabbit
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:15:01 GMT
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

I don't think this is the right place to post this, but I can't think of a
better audience.  

My question concerns the following lyrics in Jefferson Airplane's "White
Rabbit":
And the red queen's off her head
Remember what the dormouse said
Feed your head, feed your head

I checked my copy of Alice and Wonderland, and couldn't find where the
dormouse actually said that.  I looked up the tea party and the court, as
(I think) they are the only scenes with the dormouse.

Did I get the lyrics wrong?  Did the dormouse never actually say that?
Someone who was actually alive when this song came out must know...

TIA,
jmctigue@stern.nyu.edu or try jmctigue@sales.stern.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Re: Manufacture of LSD
Keywords: WEEKLY ANSWER TO alt.drug's FAVORITE QUESTION!!!
Organization: Microdata International Telecomm Service, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:20:44 GMT

jamesp@cs.uwa.oz.au (James Pinakis) writes:

>at home?  Are there many different processes for doing this, and if so,
>what are the advantages of one over the other (in terms of the effect of
>the final product, no details of the chemical impurities are necessary)?

   I really can't see what else than impurities would alter the effect of
the end product. I suppose that some processes are easier, some have more
favourable chemical equilibriums, some precursors are easier to get than
others (this varies according to the region and the people). If you work in
obstetrics/gynecology or know someone who does, stealing a little ergotamine
might be possible. Universally, the most available precursor seems to be
LA-111 from woodrose seeds. I believe _Psychedelic Chemistry_ has instructions
on how to convert this to lysergic acid.

   Note that I don't have any exact information on the processes. I am a layman
and my chemistry is probably on the high school level. There's a start anyway.
The wizards can tell you more.
-- 
Jani Heinonen                  "The worm is not psychoactive."
jah@mits.mdata.fi                 --David A. Honig
From: bytehead@bluemoon.rn.com (Bryan Price)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Question about LSD (Microdot)
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:43:40 GMT
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])

locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (SCOTT C LOCKLIN) writes:

> In article <1992Aug8.205732.25291@reed.edu> bowman@reed.edu (Eric Bowman (bob
> >In article <1992Aug8.164729.26073@linus.mitre.org> lewis@aera8700.mitre.org 
> >
> >Keith!  That's pretty bad advice.  If they melted, what's left is definitely
> >not worth taking. This particular molecule doesn't particularly like this wo
> >very much, and heat, light, finger oil, etc. etc.  tend to turn it into
> >strychnine! ;
               ^^^

> The above statement is false. LSD will NEVER turn into strychnine, the two 
> molecules are not related at all! It is true that heat etc. may diminish its
> potency, but the decay products are in such small quantity, that any danger
> from these is minimal (even if all the LSD turned into strychnine it wouldn't
> even give ya the shivers-not enough of it!) if there was any danger to start 
> with.

Might the undermarked be an aborted smilie?  For the HI people?


Bryan L. Price    bytehead@bluemoon.uucp | bytehead@bluemoon.rn.com
                  1:226/30.1742 Fido
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From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: parsley precursor
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 17:16:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.174851.29509@cgrg.ohio-state.edu> djh@osc.edu (Davi
 Heisterberg) writes:
>Eric Snyder is right.  The group is about drugs -- let's enjoy our
>1st Amendment while we have it!
>
>But to the subject.  I haven't come across a copy of Shulgin's PIKHAL
>(I know, I should have kept the address when it was posted a while ago)
>but I've always thought that apiole, a component of parsely oil, would
>be a good precursor for a potential hallucinogen.  Is it mentioned in
>PIKHAL?  I imagine that parsley oil would be is easier to come by than,
>say, isosafrole.
>-- 
>David J. Heisterberg (djh@osc.edu)       What men value is not rights
>The Ohio Supercomputer Center            but privileges.
>Columbus, Ohio                             -- H.L. Mencken


 Yes, the apiole amphetamine is described in _Pihkal_, along with >170
other compounds (not all of which arec active...).

St. Anthony

--
 If mail barfs, send it to the ip #: aankrom@130.253.192.68   

                       dAdaMatriX
      I've lost my memories to all my fears...
From: patrik@cup.portal.com (Patrick M Crumhorn)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Your tax dollars wasted!!!!
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:29:52 GMT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

=START=   XMT: 14:58 Sun Aug 16  EXP: 15:00 Tue Aug 18 

REPORT SAYS $500 MILLION RADAR NET FAILS TO NAB SINGLE DRUG SMUGGLER IN 1991 

HOUSTON (AUG. 16) UPI - The $500 million spent in 1991 on the military's radar
system to catch airborne drug smugglers crossing the Mexican border has
produced no arrests or seizures, The Houston Chronicle reported Sunday. 

The Customs Service's air interdiction program played almost no part in the
federal drug cases originating along the border last year, the newspaper said. 

None of the nearly 2,500 drug cases filed in 20 federal courts from Brownsville
to San Diego was the direct result of the air interdiction system or the
military's ''radar fence.'' 

Despite the lack of arrests, customs officials say the money is well- spent. 

Assistant Customs Commissioner John Hensley said the presence of the system has
deterred would-be traffickers and forced them to turn to riskier, more costly
forms of smuggling, such as ground transportation. 

''I believe it has more than achieved what we hoped,'' Hensley said. 

But he concedes that gaps in radar coverage limit the surveillance system to
detect 80 percent of the air traffic over the border and said smugglers may be
exploiting the weaknesses, the Chronicle reported. 

''Certainly we are not 100 percent effective,'' Hensley said. ''But no law
enforcement agency is.'' 

The $2 billion ''radar fence'' consists of six radar-equipped blimps - or
aerostats - covering air space from south Texas to southern California. Two of
the blimps, both in Texas, are out of commission. 

Radar information from the blimps, as well as data from radar from Defense
Department and Federal Aviation Administration facilities, is relayed to a
Customs communications center in Riverside, Calif. 

The center determines which flights are legitimate air traffic and which may be
suspect. Customs officials use a fleet of 130 aircraft and a staff of 960
employees scattered across the southwestern U.S. at Customs bases. 

A key part of the fleet is 18 Black Hawk helicopters designed to transport
specially trained ''bust teams'' to the landing sites of aircraft carrying
drugs. The teams are on call around the clock. 

The Chronicle reported that one team member said his air unit has not been on a
legitimate mission inside the United States in three years and that he and his
fellow team members spend most of their time playing cards while awaiting
action. 

He said that in the past year the airplanes were being used outside of the
country, but before that were ordered to fly along the Gulf Coast - at a cost
of more than $1,000 an hour - to make it appear they were doing something. 

The Customs air program was started in the late 1960s with only a few planes
and about 50 employees. But when political furor over the nation's drug problem
peaked in the mid 1980s, the air fleet was tripled and the number of employees
increased sixfold. 



=END= 
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ebail@ctp.com (Erik Bailey)
Subject: I'm back...
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:39:50 GMT
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners


Just a quick note to say that after an absence of a few months,
I'm back on the net! For the last seven or eight years, I've been
"ejb@think.com"; now I'm "ebail@ctp.com". (mail to the former
address don't work no more).

This newsgroup has always been a wonderful source of unadulterated
information, and is one of the best on the net (IMHO, of course!).

It's good to be back! --Erik

-- 
Erik Bailey   | Cambridge Technology Partners | Dislaimer: I speak for myself
              | 301 Vassar St.                | and no one else. Who would
ebail@ctp.com | Cambridge, MA  02139          | want my opinions, anyway?
	/earth is 98% full; please remove any excess inhabitants.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: Paul Hager <hagerp@moose.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Open container law -- intent (was Re: info on open ...)
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:36:12 -0500


Just a clarification.  The so-called open container law is a 
prohibition against having an open container of an alcoholic beverage
in an automobile.  Thus, if you are visiting friends for dinner, don't
take an open, unfinished bottle of wine with you because if you are
stopped, you have violated the open container law.  That is how it
works.  The argument is that the wonderful law will decrease the
incidence of drunk driving because people will not drink while driving --
the only way to drink while driving requires an open container.

Again, any pointers toward studies on the effectiveness of such laws
is appreciated.
-- 
paul hager		hagerp@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu

"The most formidable weapon against errors of every kind is reason."
			-- Thomas Paine, _The Age of Reason_
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones)
Subject: Re: News item/LSD dosing
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 17:02:49 GMT
Organization: Charnel House Prod.

u8951608@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:
: In article <1992Aug11.202754.30135@dante.uucp>, mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones) writes:
: 
: Well, as a matter of fact, I have been toying with the idea of giving
: a close friend a trip, and then telling him/her to use it on me
: some time in the next 6 months without me knowing about it, just to
: see what it would be liked to be tripped without warning.
: 
: Thus, my friend will alter my consciousness in my ignorance, but
: will be sure I wont mind.
: (OK it is a little off the track, and I don't think you should trip
: someone without their permission, but I thought I'd throw it in to
: see what you think of the idea).

Hm.  Well, I certainly wouldn't want to do that myself, and it doesn't
strike me as a wise idea, but hey, if you think it might work out
alright, then why not?  I assume your friend would have enough common
sense to not do it some day when you might have to go to work, or
drive somewhere, or otherwise take care of something important.


  VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
             Mason Jones           Charnel House Productions
             P.O. Box 170277, San Francisco 94117-0277 U.S.A.
   ...{uunet,sun}!hoptoad!dante!mason   or   dante!mason@hop.toad.com
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
From: tetra@cup.portal.com (daniel TetraHedon willits)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Anti-public-ganja-smoking laws
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 14:58:18 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

i dunno.  somehow i don't recall there being any 'back-lash' of alcohol
toting, pukin'-on-the-shoes stories after the repeal of the other prohibition

now admittedly, i wasn't around then so it's possible, but i suppose another
approach to the question might be with a question -- "If pot were legalized
(and assuming that you were thereby decriminalized), would you celebrate 
your new-found freedom by walking up to total strangers and blowing smoke
in their faces?"

i can see that, depending on what you smoked, you would be restricted to 
certain parts of restaurants, but outdoors? 

i doubt that what we need are more laws.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: voss.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Subject: Guns...
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:13:20 GMT

can kill people if you use the butt of the gun to smash a persons head 
in...then again so can every other type of instrument blunt or sharp 
including but not limited to butter knives,glass bottles,hair 
dryers,pianos...so on and so forth ad naseum we dont need gun control we 
need self control as a society...
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:14912 talk.bizarre:26978
From: alex@ssdc.sas.upenn.edu (Alex Dunne)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: LSD: the early days and alcohol
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:02:23 GMT
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: Social Science Computing, Univ. of Penn.


	A lot of people have beenposting lately about LSD, alcohol and BIll
WIlson, the co-founder of Alcoholics Anaonymous. Coincidentally, I'm
reading a book by journalist and AA memebr Nan Robertson, called
"Getting Better - Inside AA". In it, she states that Wilson experimented
with LSD as a means to control the desire to drink, much to the
embarassment of the rest of AA. 
	She also points out that in recent years, some older members of
AA have taken a disparaging view towards younger members who join
because of dependency problems with drugs OTHER than alcohol. This seems
to run completely against the AA precepts of tolerance and acceptance.
	On a personal note, I have found that for a few months after a
trip, the idea of getting drunk seems dull and futile. Since LSD offers
so much MORE to experience, why slow yourself down, poison your body,
and put on the weight with alcohol? In this regard, it has curtailed my
"heavy social" drinking, which isn't such a bad thing.

alex@ssdc.sas.upenn.edu

Every day's a thrill when you live it like me! -The Godfathers

Set the gearshift for the high gear of your soul -Phish



Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: krawchuk@cs.sfu.ca (Bj Krawchuk)
Subject: Re: Post-trip free association problems -- is this normal?
Reply-To: krawchuk@cs.sfu.ca
Organization: Expert Systems Lab, Simon Fraser University
	<KRAWCHUK.92Aug13102745@phecda.cs.sfu.ca>
	<1992Aug14.172946.27774@cs.mcgill.ca>
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:06:26


(Fotis XIPOLITAKIS) wrote:
_________
Zip> 	Correct ne if I'm wrong but I've heard of LSD being stored in
Zip> 	body fat for long periods of time... When the fat is used the
Zip> 	LSD is released  back into the system... This gives some people
Zip> 	LSD flash backs... I've heard it also happens with PCP.

You are wrong (unless you heard that it was stored in crystalline form ;^) )

Bj
From: u8951608@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Manufacture of LSD
Date: 12 Aug 92 08:21:48 GMT
Organization: University of New South Wales

In article <eesnyder.713548044@beagle>, eesnyder@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Eric E. Snyder) writes:
> 
> You know, there was a time not more than a few years ago when alt.drugs 
> was actually an interesting and informative news group.  People actually 
> had interesting discussions regarding synthetic methods and pharmacology.
> Lately this group has focused on matters more appropriate for .politics
> groups.  When debating whether to post something highly technical, go for
> it!  The worst that can happen is that some people choose to skip over the
> article.  It is certainly no more a waste of bandwidth that most of the 
> garbage that finds its way to alt.drugs.  
> 
I couldn't possibly agree more. I will certainly continue to post
technical stuff. Besides - isn't this an international news group?
I am not especially interested in US politics.

Jeremy
jeremy@rsc3.anu.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (The Jumpin Dude)
Subject: Re: News item/LSD dosing
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 15:41:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.065900.19508@panix.com> tls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot Simon) writes:
>In article <1992Aug15.040435.22950@mercury.cair.du.edu> tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (The Jumpin Dude) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug14.121842.24168@linus.mitre.org> lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) writes:
>>>In article <1992Aug13.161510.2895@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au>, u8951608@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:
>>>>Well, as a matter of fact, I have been toying with the idea of giving
>>>>a close friend a trip, and then telling him/her to use it on me
>>>>some time in the next 6 months without me knowing about it, just to
>>>>see what it would be liked to be tripped without warning.
>>
>>excuse me, but i think this is an extraordinarily stoopid idea.
>>
>>
>>>People who genuinely don't expect it may think they're going crazy.
>>
>>people who are expecting it regularly go crazy.

yea well maybe my friends have been different from the rest of the world.

>Utter bullshit.
>
>-- 
>Thor Lancelot Simon	 tls@panix.COM
>  "Oh, you have wounded me!  I have very few prejudices, actually.  The
>biggest problem is that I am intolerant of fools.  That is why I have
>such a low tolerance level for Libertarians."  -- Jim McMaster

tim

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: Yohimbe (MAOI, alpha2 andrenergic antagonist or ??)
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:55:27 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.184826.24266@ctr.columbia.edu> locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (SCOTT C LOCKLIN) writes:
>>>No, it's not.  It's a alpha-2 adrenergic antagonist.
>>	I just checked medline quickly.  I got it as an
>>	alpha 2-NORandrenergic antagonist (3 references.)
>>	I crossed refernced with MAOI and got no records.
>
>Look, I don't care what the label is, some of us (like me for instance) may
>not be psycho-pharmacologists and hence not know what the interaction
>precautions for 2-NORandrenergic antagonists are. If they are the same as for
>MAOI's then say so! If not, list the precautions!
>This posturing with big technical words helps nothing (except perhaps your
>ego); some information on 2-NORandrenergic antagonists would be the useful
>thing for this newsgroup.

That's noradrenergic.

First, saying something is an alpha-2 adrenergic antagonist or an
alpha-2 adrenergic antagonist is equivalent.  Both carry
the exact same information, and neither is incorrect.  Cedarquist would
know this if he understood what it was he was reading in his MEDLINE
search.

Second, yohimbine is already a part of the medical formulary, and
it does not have any MAOI-like drug interaction precautions.  There
are no dietary restrictions or adrenergic drug interactions when
this drug is given for impotence.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: jscsp@acad3.alaska.edu (Chris Parker)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Photosynthesis Philosophy.
Keywords: Red, Blue, Black, Light, & Help.
Date: 17 Aug 92 05:32:00 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska - Fairbanks
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC

In article <Bt2xJC.884@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, euclid@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Elizabeth Kupfer) writes...
>jscsp@acad3.alaska.edu (Chris Parker) writes:
> 
>>Using the ideas in _The_complete_guide_to_growing_Marijuana_, one assumes 
>>a plant needs 'Red' and 'Blue' rays to grow, right? Well, a FOAF claims
>>that an ultra-violet light is the most perfect place to get blue rays from.
>>FOAF also says : ultra-violet light = Black light. <- Truth? Not Truth?
>   While a black light is a good source of ultra-violet light, it doesnt'  
>  follow that a source of ultra-violet is the 'most perfect' source of blue
>  light.  If you can get the specs on a light source, it'll include a
>  description of the spectrum of light it kicks off.
>Somewhat long-winded photosynthesis spiel follows:
>  Plants absorb light across the entire visible spectrum.  However, the pig-
>  ments that absorb light as the first step of converting light energy to
>  chemical energy preferentially absorb light in the red and blue regions of
>  the spectrum.  A blue photon has more energy than a red photon, but they
>  contribute the same amount of energy, quanta for quanta, in the light
>  harvesting process.  This is because the difference is lost upon absorption
>  by the pigment, excess energy being dissipated mostly as heat.
>    I'd have to go back and rummage through my papers to verify what
>  chlorophyll does and doesn't absorb in the UV range, but what i'm trying to
>  get at is that a black light, while it may kick out an apprciatable amount
>  of blue light, is kicking out alot of UV...if you're not careful, you'll
>  cook your plants with the UV light that they absorb.  There are light bulbs
>  on the market specifically designed for growing plants which give alot of
>  blue light without so much UV; these would be a 'more perfect' source of
>  blue light for growing things.
>    Further questions are welcome.         

(1) So a UV light *would* be an effective source for 'blue' rays?

(2) If so, What would an effective ratio be of wattage from an incandescent
bulb, to black light, to achieve a good growing balance?
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:14576 sci.psychology:3477
From: elg@elgamy.sccsi.com (Eric Lee Green)
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:45:13 CDT
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,sci.psychology
Subject: Re: Partial Legalization
Distribution: world
Organization: Eric's Amiga 2000 @ Home

From article <BsusHG.F0n@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, by ffujita@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Frank Fujita):
> elg@elgamy.sccsi.com (Eric Lee Green) writes while pretending to be a
> 20th century Messiah:
>
>>Define "truth".
>
> :-)

I'll leave the Messiah business to other folks (though will admit that I am
a very loud and vocal recent convert to a particular religion whose nature
you have probably guessed :-). Too bad, since it seems to be a profitable
job nowdays, unlike teaching....

As for definitions of "truth", I'll leave that to the philosophers (I like
James here, myself).

--
 Eric Lee Green  elg@elgamy.sccsi.com         Dodson Elementary
 (713) 437-6908  uunet!nuchat!elgamy!elg      Houston, TX
                "Kids are kids, no matter what"
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: kougham@pell4l11.alleg.edu (Michael Koughhan)
Subject: hallucinogenic/pseudo-spiritual drugs
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 07:43:07 GMT

I have found that if one sits around long enough in one area, and really  
just examines one's mind, one's surroundings and possibly one's own brain  
and body slip into an altered state of mind quite similar to  
LSD/mushrooms.  The more this is done, the quicker one can slip into these  
states and they have no limits.  This is not a campaign for the war  
against drugs or any bullshit of that sort, just an observation.  Anyone  
else ever do this?


Choose a "path with heart".
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