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From: rnakkula@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robin J Nakkula)
Subject: Re: Rats!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 00:42:10 GMT

In article <weoRfY200Uh7848fxq@andrew.cmu.edu> "Faye A. Miller" <fm11+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>Anyone out there have a pet rat?  I have the opportunity to get one that
>is in need of being rescued from a bio lab.  Do they make good pets? 
>
>Faye
>fm11+@andrew.cmu.edu

Rats are very intelligent, but their personalities can vary widely.  Which lab
strain does this rat belong to?  My info on this is part personal experience,
part hearsay from other lab animal workers.

Several of the albino strains have opposite temperaments:

Fisher rats (albino): Reputed to bite without provocation.  Do not handle
without tongs or thick gloves.  Pet caliber: no way.

Sprague-Daly (albino): A very docile rat.  Will not bite, almost no matter
what you do.  Some individuals do not respond enthusiastically to being
petted and held, but shouldn't, as a rule, do anything to hurt you.

Wistar (albino): similar to Sprague-Daly.

Long-Evans (black hooded): Not viciious, as a rule, but will definitely bite
if given provocation (and occaisionally without).


Which strain is this rat?  How much has it been worked with, handled, petted
(as opposed to just having its cage changed each week)?  Does it recognize
you and respond to you?

I've been selectively breeding rats for over a decade now, and have gotten
a line of rats extremely responsive to humans, and which make very good pets.
Every so often I've mixed in a little of some of the lab strains, but not
much.  My rats are definitely different from the lab strains by now.


@@@---Robin Nakkula
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From: jpcampb@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Joe Campbell)
Subject: IEEE icon/clip art?
Apparently-To: <ieee-announce@ieee.org>
Organization: The Great Beyond
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:14:36 GMT

Is the IEEE icon (the right hand rule), or IEEE clip art in general,
available in a format that I could use on my Macinstosh?  I could
easily work with a TIFF scanned image, Canvas or MacDrawII drawings, or
SuperPaint or Illustrator paintings, or PostScript and probably many more.
(I tried scanning it myself, but I wasn't pleased with the results.)

Joe (Assoc Editor, Trans on Speech and Audio Proc)
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From: wamacher@infoserv.com (Wayne E. Amacher)
Newsgroups: ieee.announce
Subject: re:  IEEE icon/clip art
Keywords: IEEE,icon
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 20:48:57 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Amacher Enterprises, Sunnyvale, CA

The IEEE is very particular about the quality of their logos.
They do have master artwork they will send you.  I'm not sure 
exactly who to contact, but start with the:

IEEE Service Center
445 Hoes Lane
P O Box 1331
Piscataway, NJ 08855-1331
908-981-0060

Email address is RAB.NJ@ieee.org

Wayne

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From: wamacher@infoserv.com (Wayne E. Amacher)
Newsgroups: ieee.announce
Subject: Re: IEEE ICONs
Keywords: IEEE,icon
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 20:34:22 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Amacher Enterprises, Sunnyvale, CA


>Is the IEEE icon (the right hand rule), or IEEE clip art in general,
>available in a format that I could use on my Macinstosh?  I could
>easily work with a TIFF scanned image, Canvas or MacDrawII drawings, or
>SuperPaint or Illustrator paintings, or PostScript and probably many more.
>(I tried scanning it myself, but I wasn't pleased with the results.)

>Joe (Assoc Editor, Trans on Speech and Audio Proc)
-- 
>.............................................................................
>; Joe Campbell  N3JBC  jpcampb@afterlife.ncsc.mil  74040.305@compuserve.com ;
>; My opinions are mine!   Happiness = Reality - Expectations, Click & Clack ;
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


The IEEE is very particular about the quality of their logos.
They do have master artwork they will send you.  I'm not sure 
exactly who to contact, but start with the:

IEEE Service Center
445 Hoes Lane
P O Box 1331
Piscataway, NJ 08855-1331
908-981-0060

Email address is RAB.NJ@ieee.org

Wayne

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From: JIM.DIXON@f240.n353.z1.fidonet.org (JIM DIXON)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Westbank
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 09:20:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:353/240 - The Polish Connecti, Westbank BC

Jim Dixon is responding to James Aitchison's bytes to Jim Dixon
about Westbank

 JA> I've been waiting to see a tagline from Kelowna.  Nice to find one, I
 JA> have relatives who wish to get onto K-12.  Could you leave me a post
 JA> with a telephone line, system requirements and registration
 JA> information for the bbs you are using? 

To begin, I never looked at my tagline but the BBS that carries K12 and the
Educator echo that I use is in Westbank, close enogh to Kelowna so as the
call is free. The BBS number is 768-3278 but there are a couple in Calgary
that also carry the K12 number. I'm assuming your relatives are in or near
Kelowna, B.C.

The only requirement is that no handles are allowed. It's IBM (Tag) with
*.QWK mail packets. On their 1st call the system will ask for name or
account number, they enter their name and the BBS will realize they are new
users. At that point thery answer the usual questions, Name, Phone,
equipment etc. Then they can, if calling locally, use the Call Back
Verifyer. The system will lead them thru that and voila!, they are verified
new users. From there they can select the echos they want then opt for the
pre-bundled mail packets. The BBS will grab mail in selected areas and have
it bundled for them, ready to D:load on their next call.  I suggest they
use BWave as a off-line reader. And that's it.
If you'd like, you can send them my phone number (769-5080) and have them
call me if they need more info, or send me theirs and I'll help them get
going.
... DWNWTHVWLSNDSPCS...Jm  
... Blue Wave/QWK v2.10


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From: Jack.Crawford@f620.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Crawford)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Frogwatch On Fidonet?
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 14:06:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/620 - W-FL Teacher Resour, Stanley NY

This message was from PETER MACINNIS to JACK CRAWFORD,
originally in conference K12.TCH_CH
and was forwarded to you by JACK CRAWFORD.
                    -------------------------
JC>Frog Watch????? Sounds interesting. What is it? I've heard of
JC>monitoring frog population levels as a way of keeping an eye out for
JC>increases in environmental toxicity. (Apparently frogs are very
JC>susceptible to toxins in the environment.)  Is Frog Watch anything
JC>like that?
Frog Watch programs are running in several states in Australia, and I
work at the Australian Museum, a natural history museum in Sydney which
has a large group of research scientists.
The idea is for school students to track down frogs all over Australia
-- we have some hundreds of species -- and to take a few environmental
measurements as well.  At the moment, things are all a bit slow, but we
have great hopes.
The reason for doing this is that we suspect the frogs are disappearing.
Nobody is sure why, where or even IF they are disappearing, so we need
hard data.  That's what Frog Watch is about.
Some frogs are very hardy, and love polluted waters, but others may be
more sensitive.  The simple fact is that we just don't know.  We'd like
to gather the data in some electronic and public form, and that is what
we set out to do, with little success so far.
Of course, if we get onto a system like Fidonet, the communication of
results will become easier -- at the moment, we are using a
Telecom-sponsored system they call Keylink.
At the moment, phones here remain a Govt monopoly, run by Telecom,
although deregulation is on the way.  As a result of this impending
change, Telecom lacks fire in the belly, in fact, can't even simulate
warm guts. Ho hum.





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From: Paul.Nixon@f369.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Paul Nixon)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Nasa SpaceLink
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 92 15:33:04 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/369 - City Limits BBS, Boronia Vic

GG>From: neta@iat.holonet.net (Gregory Giagnocavo)
GG>Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:16:10 GMT
GG>Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
GG>Message-ID: <BvI7yz.48K@iat.holonet.net>
GG>Newsgroups: k12.ed.science


GG>g




g?

Will anyone invent a good tagline?


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From: Edward.Dunagin@f540.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Edward Dunagin)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: G'day
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 07:55:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/540 - The Tele-Forum Netw, Columbus OH

Hi Roger, you said in part to in a message to Laura Finco.......

RB>  I am science director for the Studio of Arts And Sciences, based in
RB>  Sydney.

RB>  Our mission is to integrate the "art of science" and the "science of
RB>  art" in all areas of public education.

RB>  Currently my major project involves the creation of a new education
RB>  resource that integrates electronic BBS sytems with broader
RB>  educational goals and other "hands-on" educational resources.

     Excuse me for interupting, but I find a mission such as yours
     vital to the future of education. Do you perchance have an opposite
     number in the USA or Canada?

     It appears to me that the world can learn from you folks
     down under<g>. If you can share any of your project with us on
     here, I know I would be most greatful.

Peace.....................................Ed

 * SLMR 2.1a #1852 * By swallowing evil words, no one has ever harmed himself.



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From: Ed.Kwasniewski@f240.n353.z1.fidonet.org (Ed Kwasniewski)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Westbank
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 22:12:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:353/240 - The Polish Connecti, Westbank BC

On 09-26-92 JIM DIXON wrote to JAMES AITCHISON... 
 
JD>  Jim Dixon is responding to James Aitchison's bytes to Jim Dixon 
JD> about Westbank 
JD> 
JD>  JA> I've been waiting to see a tagline from Kelowna.  Nice to find 
 
... deleted ... 
 
JD> users. At that point thery answer the usual questions, Name, Phone, 
JD> equipment etc. Then they can, if calling locally, use the Call Back 
JD> Verifyer. The system will lead them thru that and voila!, they are 
JD> verified 
 
... deleted ... 
 
Sorry to butt in here, but I do not use a Call Back verifier.  I verify 
all callers manually ... most people will be upgraded to normal access 
levels within 24-48 hours.  Too many problems with CBV's! 
 
Cheers ... Ed (SysOp - The PC) 
 
... OFFLINE 1.41 * RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure! 


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From: James.Aitchison@p4.f85.n134.z1.fidonet.org (James Aitchison)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Westbank
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 92 22:31:10 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/85.4 - Western Canada DATA, Stavely Alta

Hi JIM.....

I've been waiting to see a tagline from Kelowna.  Nice to find one, I have relatives who wish to get onto K-12.  Could you leave me a post with a telephone line, system requirements and registration information for the bbs you are using?

Chow for now ....

James.....


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From: Peter.Macinnis@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Peter Macinnis)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Australia
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 92 18:34:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

LF>I thought that I was the only aussie type person using this system!
Look behind you, and you may see Roger Buck or John Feltham, and there
are people in Melbourne as well as assorted Kiwis -- only we and they
can tell us apart by our accents, so let's keep the Northerners
confused, shall we?

LF>And the David Attenborough videos "Trials of Life"
LF>feature some exotic-aussie natives including a saltwater croc feasting on so
LF>flying foxes in the Daintree River.
Of course he has Australian stuff -- apart from having Jim Frazier to
shoot stuff for him, Sir David has a grandchild in Canberra that he
likes to visit, and a marvellous TAMS (The Australian Muesum Society)
here in Sydney which always gives him a packed house.  So natch he uses
our material.  BTW, you missed the "Australian Museum Complete Book of
Australian Mammals".  Fie! <g>

LF>And even though you weren't the one asking for the
LF>information, I just wanted to connect with another aussie.  (Actually, I am
LF>Kiwi, but I won't say anything to my friends in Queensland, if you don't).
See above -- anyhow, I'm an escaped Banana-bender!

LF> * Origin: SF Area IISME-NET 37.52.47N 122.14.44W Berkeley CA USA (1:161/470
              ^^^^^^^                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So where _are_ you?
Hooroo and Kia-ora, ciao, kwa heri, au revoir, selamat jalan, vale
(or ooroo in Qld)




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Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
From: neta@iat.holonet.net (Gregory Giagnocavo)
Subject: Nasa SpaceLink
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:16:10 GMT
From: Laura.Finco@f470.n161.z1.fidonet.org (Laura Finco)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Aussie Abroad
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 20:27:01 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:161/470 - IISME-NET, Berkeley CA

Peter
Thanks for the message! And I have heard from Roger.  The things that you are doing sound pretty interesting, but Roger wouldn't go into detail about your side of things.  He said that he'd let you speak for yourself.
Well, since Roger was so good as to introduce me to the happenings down under, I thought that I would briefly let you folks know what I am doing back in the states.  First, I am a middle school teacher in California.  My main subject is integrated sciences.  We teach every student, every type of science, every year from K-10.  We hope to expand this type of instruction to include the 11th and 12th grade, but right now we need to restructure so the University will accept our curriculum.  The idea of integra



ted science disciplines is a new one in the USA.  We are in the grassroots of it right now, but the concept is spreading.  I have been actively involved since the beginning three years ago and have completely restructured our district's science program for the middle schools and ;have helped with the elementary and high school.  We use themes to weave the content together.  For example, we may teach the biology of plants and include the chemistry of photsynthesis, the physics of fluid dynamics, and the geo



logy of minerals in soil.  It is pretty interesting and really fun way to teach science.  The students see a connectedness.  I know that England has been teaching this way for awhile with the Saltler's program.
I also work for the Education Department of the state of California as an educational consultant.  That is a fancy way to say that I am a professional curriculum writer.  I have contracts with Public Broadcasting Television (by the way, how many channels do you get in Sydney? When I lived in Kuranda, we only got four!) and I am doing work for the American Petroleum Institute.
How I got to Australia in the first place--my family is from Kohimaramar near Auckland.  I then got involved with research teams.  As a teacher I try to keep my hand in the science which I fell in love with as a child.  So I find out about different research teams and I apply to work the summer (or winter as it turns out to be in Australia) as a volunteer.  It is a wonderful experience and when I return to my classroom, I am jazzed with what I have done and my students catch it.  The only problem is after 



living in Australia, I want to go back and back and back.  If the Immigration Laws ever change...watch out!!!   Good chatting with you again!

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From: Grover.Partee@f58.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Grover Partee)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Spacelink Bbs
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 11:02:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/58 - Silver Lake, Everett WA

JA> Hi All.....
Hi, James!

JA>...does anyone know the number to the NASA SpaceLink BBS?
The SPACELINK BBS is located in Alabama and is accessible at
205-895-0028.  According to my sources they have had over 14,000
connections to the board - over half being teachers & students.

BTW, the Space Forum on Compuserve has some pretty impressive GIF
images, including a Hubble photo of Mars, available for downloading.
There was an article on p.48 of the October issue of C-serve's mag.


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From: Jack.Crawford@f620.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Crawford)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Moderators Wanted
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 14:26:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/620 - W-FL Teacher Resour, Stanley NY

LH> > JCIf you would be interested in becoming the moderator of any
LH> > JCof the LH> > JCK12net echoes, please contact me.

LH>Jack,  I will remain as the Science Moderator but if you find an
interested LH>helper, please have them join the operation.  Thanks
for all you do to keep LH>this system operating.

Thanks, Lowell!
I have not received any "resumes" from people wnating be the Science
moderator. However, when/if I do, I will forward them to you as
candidates for "assistants" for your consideration. I will regard
you as the "Senior" moderator. You can appoint and coordinate your
own assistants at your descretion. My role will be to help find some
candidates for _your_ consideration.

Sound good???

Whew! I thought we might loose ya there....! Good to have you back!
:-)

=jack=



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From: jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: Biological Transmutions
Date: 27 Sep 92 19:49:39 GMT
Reply-To: jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr)
Organization: SCRI, Florida State University

In article <3157.2AC4C292@puddle.fidonet.org> Grover.Partee@f58.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Grover Partee) writes:
>
>Crosspost from AQUIFER, the Pollution and grondwater recharge
>discussion list (AQUIFER%IBACSATA.BITNET@vm.cnuce.cnr.it) with neither
>comment nor significant alteration.

Aquifer?

Amazing how this thing gets around.  It was also posted to sci.physics.fusion 
where the factual flaws in the claims were pointed out. 

>                    BIOLOGICAL TRANSMUTATIONS
>
>        A very simple experiment can demonstrate (PROVE) the FACT of
>"BIOLOGICAL TRANSMUTATIONS" (reactions like Mg + O --> Ca, Si + C -->
>Ca, K + H --> Ca, N2 --> CO, etc.), as described in the BOOK
>"Biological Transmutations" by Louis Kervran, [1972 Edition is BEST.],
>and in Chapter 17 of the book "THE SECRET LIFE OF PLANTS" [see
>Footnote] by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird, 1973:

No, a simple experiment cannot prove this.  

Only a very careful experiment that tracked and controlled contaminants 
could prove this.  For example, Calcium has several isotopes in nature, 
and the naturally occuring isotopes of Si and C (or K and H) will not 
make all of these isotopes and would make others in ratios that are 
not found naturally.  Thus there are ways to tell if the Ca in the plant 
came from trace sources or came from "biological" fusion reactions. 

There are also radioactivities that would be produced, and these are 
detectable with far greater precision than chemical processes allow. 

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From: Shawn.Wyant@f65.n228.z1.fidonet.org (Shawn Wyant)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: MARS
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 20:09:16 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:228/65 - K12 Educator, Muskegon MI

I have a question that I would like answered it is: What is internet and how could I get to use it?


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From: JIM.DIXON@f240.n353.z1.fidonet.org (JIM DIXON)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: tires
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 09:10:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:353/240 - The Polish Connecti, Westbank BC

Jim Dixon is responding to Durham, James Michael's bytes to All
about Re: tires
 DJM> From: jmd9888@zeus.tamu.edu (DURHAM, JAMES MICHAEL)
 DJM> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1992 13:15:00 GMT
 >Hi Tom..... > 
 >19 Sep 92, Tom Turner writes to All:
 > 
 > TT>          could be utilized in another product. The breakdown should
 > TT>          result in two components. One being any metal, such as steel
 > TT>          belting and/or cords, and the other being the "rubber" and/or
 >I wonder if there is someway the tires could be mechanically broken into small
 >pieces and then somehow used in road resurfacing.  Just something I thought 

 DJM> Well I think that I can handle this one.  There is a process out that
 DJM> take the "rubber" portion of the tire along with other products (and
 DJM> like a good thing right, well that is where we get back to the "$"
 DJM> thing.  It currantly is about four  times more expensive to produce and

Hello James:
        The province of Alberta has gotten around part of the cost. The
Provinvial gov't has imposed an additional $4.00 per tire hidden tax. This
$4.00 per tire goes directly to help pay the cost of incinerating the
tires, not for converting them into ashphalt...Things may have changed
since there was a small group putting on the pressure to use them in
ashphalt. I don't know which group it was...there are over 350 various
environmental organizations in Alberta...each running in their own
direction.

... DWNWTHVWLSNDSPCS...Jm
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