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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: NHL Season is over.
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 14:21:59 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.043424.29116@cs.dal.ca> schofiel@ug.cs.dal.ca (Ronald Clyde Douglas Schofield) writes:
>
> I know that Sheri and Gerald will flame me, they always do...
> I have always wondered about who you are Sheri and Gerald and your past
>playing expirence in the game of hockey. Mabey you could tell us how you
>scored the winning goal(s) in any games that you have played, and if you
>are still playing. Better yet mabey you could tell us who read your posts
>of any war wounds that you have suffered in the process of playing? I don't
>know of any player who has played for a while not getting any. I myself have
>player hockey since I was 12(16 yrs)in every league that I could find. I always 
>played house leagues because I saw too many kids have pressure to play
>competitive and loose the love of the game. I did not want that. I also
>played pickup games, played for a local bar for three years. My last year
>before my war wound, I scored 17 goals in 19 games and accounted for all
>but one of my teams goals in the playoffs. I have not played hockey for
>a couple of years as I seperated my shoulder in a pick-up game and under the
>advice of my doctor, have not played hockey until this year. It sure felt
>good to get back on the blades. We play from 6am-8am once a week. I love the
>game.
>
>Thanks for listening to me. As you can tell I am for the owners. They pay the
>players to play hockey, not run the business.
>

I have only supported free agency in combination with revenue-sharing
and a salary cap/floor...the problem is that the players want free
agency without revenue-sharing and a salary cap, and the owners want
no revenue-sharing and no free agency.

Free agency without revenue-sharing will not work, and we live in
a world where the lack of free agency is really a violation of 
a person's individual rights...free agency without revenue-sharing
is not conducive to generating increased revenues, jobs, salaries,
or quality of the game.

Gerald
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: mathnew2@watserv1.waterloo.edu (mathNOOS [mathNEWS editors])
Subject: Re: AN ODE TO SHERRI
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 02:00:09 GMT

In article <9APR199214263941@venus.lerc.nasa.gov> smorris@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Ronald Morris (SVER)) writes:
>These guys should
>have to watch "Slapshot" about 250 times and find out what Hockey is
>all about.

Oh yeah, well I know your wife's a dyke. Yeah yeah, she told me herself.
She's a lesbian! She's a lesbian!....    ;-)

(So there, just to show you I *have* seen Slapshot, in all it's funky
glory. The Hansens Rule!  ;-) 

>Hey, Sherri is cool.  I don't agree with a lot of her opinions, but
>she's entitled to them.  But she is a PENGUINS fan.  Therefore, I am
>sending Sherri a great big *CROSS CHECK*, and urge others to do the same.

You can' do dat, dere. Now you go to da box and feel shame.

>Ron

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From: ash@sumex-aim.stanford.edu (David Ash)
Subject: Hell 
Originator: dash@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:52:17 GMT

I agree with the sentiments expressed in this newsgroup that the day
hockey becomes popular in the American South will be the day hell
freezes over.

(no flames please)
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From: parker@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Jim Parker)
Subject: STRIKE OVER!!!?
Organization: U. of Calgary Computer Science
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 04:44:14 GMT


Recent local news has indicated that the players have agreed to a 1 year
deal, which would allow hockey to continue!!

But from where? Stay tuned.

J Parker
(Calgary Flames net contact Pro Tem)
From: lyddy@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: RUMOR: STRIKE OVER?
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:45:37 GMT

Mike Lynch, the sportscaster for channel 5 in Boston, just
echoed CKAC radio's announcement that the Strike was over.
Although the NHL has refused to confirm, Lynch reported that
the Bruins are planning to resume the regular season Sunday
night against the Quebec Nordiques.  Someone from Montreal 
please elaborate on the details of CKAC's announcement.

-Dan Lyddy
-UMass at Amherst
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: glenn@pageworks.com (Glenn Bechard)
Subject: Strike Over, fin de greve
Reply-To: glenn@pageworks.com (Glenn Bechard)
Organization: PageWorks Electronic Publishing Centers
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:36:11 GMT
Keywords: fin de greve

 A Montreal station has just reported that the NHL strike is over! 
The league is not confirming.

Glenn D. Bechard
glenn@pageworks.com
From: chin@sask.usask.ca (Glenn Chin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Injury report before the playoffs
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:49:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada

In article <719@ckgp.UUCP>, millis@ckgp.UUCP (Tom Millis) writes:
> Can someone please post an updated injury report before the playoffs start.

I trashed the latest injury report during the strike's darkest hours.  Did
anyone keep a copy of the last report before the strike?  Off the top of my
head, noteworthy changes are:

	- Paul Coffey is presumably healthy
	- Brett Hull returned after back spasms
	- Stephane Richer returned after shoulder injury
	- Peter Stastny returned after digestive virus
	- Esa Tikkanen returned after shoulder injury in early Jan

	- Mario Lemieux bruised shoulder (minor) on Apr 13
	- Patrick Roy slightly injured (minor) on Apr 12.

	- What is the status of Randy Burridge?

Can anyone add to the above list?

Newspapers will probably print the latest injury report on Saturday, which
would be too late for most poolsters.


Glenn
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From: ARBOGASTW@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast)
Subject: Re: Injury report before the playoffs
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 00:27:15 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.124901.1@sask.usask.ca> chin@sask.usask.ca (Glenn Chin) writes:
>In article <719@ckgp.UUCP>, millis@ckgp.UUCP (Tom Millis) writes:
>> Can someone please post an updated injury report before the playoffs start.

>       - What is the status of Randy Burridge?

Burridge played his first game since March first last night against the 
Penguins.  He started on the fourth line.  In today's paper Terry Murray is 
quoted as saying he likes the problem of not knowing where Burridge will fit 
in.  I would imagine he'll play in all games and be paired with Dale Hunter 
and Dimitri Khristch.  (Pivonka-Bondra-Druce have been going fairly well, I 
doubt Murray will mix them up).

Warren
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: easchwei@eos.ncsu.edu (ERIC ARNOLD SCHWEITZ)
Subject: Victory for Hockey fans everywhere
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 15:46:11 GMT

Early this morning the players and the owners agreed in principle to 
a new contract and the season will resume.  The remaining games
are to be rescheduled and played as well as the playoffs.

I'm not sure about the details of the agreement, but I'd rather
watch hockey, especially the playoffs!

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From: etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se (Staffan Axelsson)
Subject: Team Sweden roster 04/15
Organization: Ericsson Telecom, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:03:23 GMT


Head coach Conny Evensson added 6 players from the SM-final teams Malmo
and Djurgarden, 1 player from Leksand and 2 players from NHL to 
this Team Sweden that will play 2 games against Team Finland next week.

Conny will leave a couple of spots open for more NHL players from teams
that lose in an early round. The players he's interested in includes
Ulf Dahlen, Mikael Andersson and Tomas Sandstrom among forwards and
Calle Johansson and Fredrik Olausson among defensemen.

Peter Andersson and Kenneth Kennholt are doubtful about their participation
in the WC due to injuries so these players could also be replaced.

16 of these players have never played a WC before and the average age is
only 24 years old. There are only 5 players who are reigning world champions
from WC '91.

    Name		Team 	    Pos.
    ====		====	    ====
    Tommy Soderstrom	Djurgarden   G	
    Peter Aslin 	HV 71	     G	
    Hakan Algotsson	Frolunda     G		

    Petri Liimatainen	AIK	     D
    Tommy Sjodin	Brynas	     D
    Arto Blomsten	Djurgarden   D
    Kenneth Kennholt	Djurgarden   D
    Fredrik Stillman	HV 71	     D	
    Roger Johansson	Leksand	     D
    Peter Andersson	Malmo	     D

    Michael Nylander	AIK	     W
    Patric Kjellberg	AIK	     W
    Jan Larsson		Brynas       C
    Anders Huss		Brynas	     W
    Peter Ottosson	Farjestad    W
    Lars Karlsson	Farjestad    C
    Roger Hansson	Malmo	     W
    Daniel Rydmark	Malmo	     C
    Peter Forsberg	MoDo	     C
    Markus Naslund	MoDo	     W	
    Patrik Carnback	Frolunda     W
    Mats Sundin		Quebec	     C/W
    Johan Garpenlov	San Jose     W


 The players that got replaced are:
 
    Per Lundell		Farjestad    D
    Per Gustafsson	HV 71	     D
    Leif Rohlin		Vasteras     D
    Joacim Esbjors	Frolunda     D
    Lars Edstrom 	Lulea        W	
    Lars Hurtig		Lulea	     W
    Terho Koskela	Frolunda     W
    Peter Berndtsson	Frolunda     C	

Staffan
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From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Salary Cap questions
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:17:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: adobe.1992Apr7.231726.29136
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

In article <1992Apr7.230639.26220@cs.tulane.edu> phhill@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu writes:
>Players and management were able to agree on what fraction of total 
>revenues was a reasonable amount for the players to receive without
>putting the owners out of business. It seems to be working pretty 
>well so far.

While I certainly agree that the NBA has been the best-run sports league
with the most reasonably labor relations, there are some cracks starting to
show.  The NBA players association has been making noises about wanting to
eliminate the salary cap now that the league is on a good financial footing
(they accepted the salary cap because the league really was in dire
financial straits, and the league opened all the books to show this to the
players), and complaining about how owners are hiding revenues.

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
From: jpc@philabs.philips.com (John P. Curcio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: NBA/NHL exhibition games?
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:24:11 GMT
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff Manor, NY.

In article <43778@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> byonef@sage.cc.purdue.edu (E. Fred Byon) writes:
>With the NHL strike now in full bloom, this idea came to mind: how about have
>the NHL front office arrange with the NBA to play exibition basketball games
>against the NBA teams while the strike is in progress?


What would be even better would be for them to play each other in their
respective games-- since we KNOW the basketball teams would slaughter
the hockey players (how many 6'6" cretins play hockey?  not too many)
in a basketball game, we would have to even it by putting them in
skates.  Of course, it would have to be a no-checking sort of thing,
but interesting nonetheless.

-JPC

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From: am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Anna Matyas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: So long, Stanley Cup playoffs
Date: 10 Apr 92 13:34:42 GMT
Organization: H&SS Dean's Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


>From Lori Iannamico
> 
>In article <cdt7gui00Uh7I48Fo0@andrew.cmu.edu> Anna Matyas
<am2x+@andrew.cmu.ed
>u> writes:
>>
>>*Granted, from what we know, the owners refused to talk all season.
>> The players decided to strike at the time when the owners could
>> make the most money (and the players the least amount of money.
>> Playoffs do not make the players rich).  I can understand that the
>> players felt they had to hit the owners where it hurts the most.
>> But I'm also PO'd that the players have made their money for the
>> season.  I think I'd respect them a little more if they had waited
>> until the beginning of next season, when they would have gone without
>> their paychecks.
> 
>It doesn't bother me that they were paid before they struck.  For the
strike to
>be effective, the players had to strike at the most vunerable time for the 
>owners.  And that time is the playoffs.  Personally, I'd think it be better
>damn stupid of them to strike at the beginning of the season.  That would
>play right into the owners' hands.
> 
>The owners would feel even less pressure to negotiate if the players stuck
>prior to the season.   They may lose money on concession sales, but they'd
>save in player salaries.

I still don't look at it this way.  A strike at the beginning of the
season would have the potential of lasting all year.  No season.
No playoffs.  I think the owners would have to seriously think about
the deterioration of the fan base at that point; this is something they
don't have to really worry about now because fans are thirsting for
hockey.  We might not consider that to be such an issue in Pittsburgh now,
but if you were around during the lean years you know how awful it was
to hear talk day after day about how the Penguins were going to leave
the city.  Hartford, for one, faces this now and there may be others.

The only money they'd "save" on player salaries is the money they've
already made.  There would be no gate receipts, very little souvenir
sales, etc.   If you're talking about a season with replacement players,
then your point is more valid.  If it comes to that we all need to
think long and hard about what to do with our season ticket renewals.
The possibility exists that we could lose out in the process.  If
that doesn't bother you, fine.  It bothers me.  

I don't look at this Strike as a black-and-white issue.  I can't make
a statement like "the owners are wrong; the players are right."  And
all I want right now is to go to the playoffs. 

There's always CMU hockey...
From: ali@elara.ctr.columbia.edu (M. Ali Hanafi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: LOOKING FOR UNIVERSITY/COLLEGE CLUBS IN NY AND SURROUNDING AREAS
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:22:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: ctr.1992Apr9.222215.14583
Distribution: usa
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LOOKING FOR UNIVERSITY/COLLEGE FIELD HOCKEY CLUBS IN THE NEW YORK AREA
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hullo,

Some of us at Columbia are thinking of starting a field hockey club.  Well,
apart from needing 11 players (which is going to be a feat in itself in this
apathetic place) we need to find out if there are any university clubs out 
there in the New York and surrounding areas.  I would be very grateful if you
could send me an email at <ali@elara.ctr.columbia.edu>.  If we do decide to
form a club, we will get in touch with you.  


Thank you,

Ali Hanafi

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From: A0K5719@tamvm1.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Re: Hockey Sticks with Composites
Date: 13 Apr 92 03:04:58 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University

In article <1992Apr9.163828.11098@acuson.com>
kumar@acuson.com (Kumar Neelakantan) writes:
 
>making it very nice for tackling. There also seems to be minimal shock
>transferred to the top. Anyone know how the shock is absorbed in the
>shaft? Any comments?
The fiber-matrix interphase in the fiber glass stick is an excellent site
for damping. when the shock wave reaches an interphase, it quickly starts
dampening, when the wave reaches the top of the shaft it is almost completely
absorbed.
>kumar
 
anil
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 10 Apr 1992 09:47:40 CDT
From: <U17868@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Olympics telecast ?

Does anyone have any idea about the telecast of the olympics matches ? Can we g
et it the same way we saw cricket final from Melbourne ?
Sikander Waheed
From: smithb@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Australian Championship 1992
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:10:07 GMT

or those intersted the Australian Senior Championships will be held in Perth,
Western Australia 22 April to 3 May.  State and te rritory teams play a round
robin series followed by a finals series.  The final will be on 3 May.

Bruce Smith
From: kumar@acuson.com (Kumar Neelakantan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Hockey Sticks with Composites
Summary: Feel of Composite reinforced hockey sticks
Keywords: Hockey Sticks
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:38:28 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California

Hi:
	Anyone out there have any comments on ceramic vs fiberglass
reinforced shafts for hockey sticks. I've used both a Gray's ceramic
midi and a Maharaj Fiber. Personally I like the "whip" of the ceramic
midi while hitting. The balance in the Gray's feels like in the head
making it very nice for tackling. There also seems to be minimal shock
transferred to the top. Anyone know how the shock is absorbed in the
shaft? Any comments?
cheers
kumar

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From: sunjain@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (mera bharat mahan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: pak hockey star in drug net
Date: 8 Apr 1992 16:25:40 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
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			* * *

PAK HOCKEY STAR IN DRUG NET
ISLAMABAD - Mussadiq Hussain, a centre-forward in the Pakistan 
Hockey team, has tested positive for anabolic steroids and, 
thus, faces a mandatory two year ban according to the International 
Olympic Committee rules.
From: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Name That Goon!
Date: 16 Apr 92 08:40:43 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

In article <kup3pqINN93f@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> gak@gakbox.Corp.Sun.COM writes:
>Name a player who received two major penalties, two minor penalties,
>and two misconducts ON THE SAME PLAY.
>
>Answer later today, if I remember to post it...

Dunno the answer, but here's another along the same line:

Who received an unsportsmanlike conduct, misconduct, game misconduct,
and gross misconduct recently all on the same play?



A: Craig MacTavish of the Oilers, the other night against the Jets.  What
*I'D* like to know is what he did/said that got him nailed with all four
kinds of misconduct possible.  Also, what's the penalty wrt fine/suspension
that goes with a gross misconduct?

      Daryl Turner
       <umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
        r.s.h contact for the Winnipeg Jets
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: lyddy@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Kiss the playoffs goodbye
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:27:58 GMT
Distribution: na

In article <1992Apr8.144349.28616@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca>, cs911030@ariel.yorku.ca (STAVROS TSOKOS) writes:
> Everybody out there reading this, tell me this: You
> own a restaurant, say for lack of a better idea McDonalds.  Ok, now you
> have an employee - who performs his services well and becomes EMPLOYEE
> of the month, and you get a nice framed photo plastered on the wall
> where all the customers can see it.  This employee demands they get
> full rights to the potential customers this photo brings the business.
> What, all of a sudden, this employee becomes an owner?!  I thought this
> guy was getting paid a salary - and if he didn't like it he should go
> work elsewhere.
> JUST A TASTEFUL ANALOGY.
> 
>                                     Steve
> 
Steve:  

OK, here's where the analogy fails: you weren't actually charging the cust-
omers a fee to look at the picture, nor were you selling copies of the picture
at the local five and dime.  As Cyndi Lauper once said:  "Money changes every-
thing."

-Dan Lyddy
From: obaidr@bullet.ecf (OBAID ARIF)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Strike Over!
Date: 11 Apr 92 05:04:10 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Originator: obaidr@bullet.ecf.toronto.edu

Now that the strike is over, I have mixed feelings.

I feel happy that we will get to watch exciting hockey once again.....
BUT being a Leaf fan, this means watching another playoff go by without
them in it.

Well atleast we have the Blue Jays...... :-)

Arif [ happy, but not happy] Obaid
From: ferguson@cs.rochester.edu (George Ferguson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Playoff Traditions
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:51:42 GMT
Reply-To: ferguson@cs.rochester.edu (George Ferguson)
Organization: University of Rochester Hockey Science Dept.


In article <1992Apr14.175203.1314@pixar.com> laura@pixar.com (It's Howe, Not How Many) writes:
>	A friend was recently telling me about some tradition at playoff time
>that involves a live squid.

In Detroit they traditionally throw octopus on the ice. Guess that's
what comes from not making the playoffs very often.

George
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From: lyddy@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Penguins retain cup ?
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:14:16 GMT
Distribution: na

In article <1992Apr8.221443.21724@helios.physics.utoronto.ca>, obaidr@bullet.ecf (OBAID ARIF) writes:
> Now that the playoff's have been cancelled, does this mean that the Pens
> keep the Cup ?
> Or is it that the Cup will be placed in a neutral place since no one is the
> Champ this year ?
> 
Maybe the cup will be placed back on display at the Hall of Fame in Toronto.
Hopefully, if I come by this June, I'll get to see the Cup instead of a note
of explanation from Ziegler...

-Dan Lyddy
-UMass at Amherst

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