HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: whelan@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (John T. whelan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Dr. Crusher's Rank
Keywords: monKEY, turKEY, donKEY, KEYboard
Date: 26 Sep 92 23:47:42 GMT

djredick@bluemoon.rn.com (Darrin J. Redick) writes:

>Correct.  CMO is the position title.  Her RANK is Commander, as shown in
>EaF and various other episodes.

	Actually, she was a Lt. Cdr. in "Encounter at Farpoint" (Just
checked the pips a few weeks ago), but has been a full commander in
every episode since (starting with "The Naked Now").
						John Whelan
--
	"Do you know what Freud said about dreams of flying?
	 It means you're really dreaming about having sex."
	"Indeed?  Tell me then, what does it mean when
	 you dream about having sex?"  -- Sandman #15
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From: rhballan@eos.ncsu.edu (ROBERT HAMI BALLANTINE)
Subject: Idea For Weapon 
Originator: rhballan@c00506-119rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: rhballan@eos.ncsu.edu (ROBERT HAMI BALLANTINE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:25:48 GMT


I watched "Best of Both Worlds I" (again) last night
and came up with a good idea for a weapon to fight
the borg with during hand to hand.  Instead of using phasers
which can be adapted to, they should replicate some 20th
ccentury hand-guns or machine guns.  Let's see the borg
adapt to a .357 slug up their ass!

Rob
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From: goudswaa@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter Goudswaard)
Subject: NEEDED: episode titles & stardates
Keywords: stardates
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 20:44:25 GMT

I have missed the beginnings of some TNG shows, and with them the titles
and stardates ("Captain's log, stardate ....").

Would anyone be kind enough to fill in the blank spots in my list?

Stardates needed for:

The Hunted - Angosian war vets fight for their rights as citizens
The High Ground - Ensada separatists kidnap Dr. Crusher
Deja Q - Q is stripped of his powers temporarily
The Offspring - Data has a daughter
Sins of the Father - Worf is discommendated (sp?) and meets his brother
The Most Toys - Data gets kidnapped
New Ground - Alexander introduction and Soliton Wave experiment
Arsenal of Freedom - A weapon system kills its makers
Jono - Talarians adopt a human boy
Trapped - a Menthar booby-trap ensnares the Enterprise
Uprising of the Phoenix - USS Phoenix disobeys orders & attacks Cardassians
First Contact - Enterprise initiates 1st contact with the Malcorians

I need the titles and stardates for the following:

The episode where we are introduced to Tasha Yar's sister, Ishara
The episode where an alien tricks Riker into thinking he was 16 yrs older
The episode where Geordie meets Leah Brahm for real
The episode where Reg Barclay gets smart and takes the E far away
The episode where a UFP time ship arrives with an imposter from the 22nd(?) C
The episode where Luxwana(sp?) is to marry Campio, and parasites feed on E

Thanks in advance for your help.  A comprehensive post to the net is okay,
but if you have bits and pieces, feel free to email to goudswaa@sfu.ca

THX

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From: runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan)
Subject: Re: "Probe" and "Imzadi"
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:55:43 GMT
Organization: HP, Cupertino, CA, USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com wrote:
>My oh my, aren't we testy.  
>...
>I haven't gotten this much flack since the guy who wrote that he wanted
>to know how to go about making "submitions," ...

You probably already realize this, but the school season started during
the month of September and the sudden flood of annoying posts has tended
to make many netters somewhat short-tempered.  

On the other hand, like attracts like...

Mark Runyan  {was the r.a.s. random rationalizer}
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From: gill@physics.ubc.ca (Arnold Gill)
Subject: Re: "Probe" and "Imzadi"
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:03:40 GMT

Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:

>*original* manuscript, which author Margaret Bonano calls "Music of the
>Spheres," can be obtained directly from her.  Check with her at 
>conventions, or word can be gotten to her if you express your interest on
>Compuserv.

     Peter, would you happen to have her e-mail address at CompuServ?  I don't
subscribe, but I know I can get mail over to there.  Thanks.

--
Arnold Gill --- astrophysician trainee in exile             gill@physics.ubc.ca
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From: gill@physics.ubc.ca (Arnold Gill)
Subject: Re: Alternate universe history
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 21:52:18 GMT

number6@milton.u.washington.edu (John Drake) writes:

>	I'm the one of the authors of the aforementioned timeline.  My 
>	fanzine, _The_Tantalus_Field,_ features fiction based in the Mirror
>	Universe, and we had to come up with a consistent and coherent 
>	background for our stories.  It eventually turned into a complete
>	history that's part of the Officer's Manual our members receive.

>	We decided that it would be more dramatically valid to have the
>	divergence-point of the two universes be something we already 
>	saw in the series -- one of the time-travel stories.  "City on 
>	the Edge of Forever" was the best example of that, with a 
>	divergent timeline whose history we never learned past the 
>	1940's.  This, plus the irony of the gentle Dr. McCoy being 
>	indirectly responsible for creating the Empire, made using this
>	episode irresistable.

     I guess you are ignoring Peter David's comic series of the Mirror, Mirror
universe, where he states that the divergence occurred about 100 years prior
to TOS due to the Romulans conquering and occupying Earth for 10 years before
they were overthrown by the precursors to the Empire.  That sounds more
likely to me.

     Also, the original Ellison script seems to indicate that the Nazi's
winning WW II caused the use of nuclear weapons to be used extensively and
effectively destroyed civilization.

--
Arnold Gill --- astrophysician trainee in exile             gill@physics.ubc.ca
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From: sboiarsk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sean L Boiarski)
Subject: Re: Non-existent racism in Time's Arrow (I and II)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 04:01:55 GMT

>>Clemens' talk with Deanna Troi in the turbolift, he explcitly mentions proble
ms  
>>that plague our society.  Among them, prejudice.) is racism even MENTIONED.
>>
>>They called Data an albino, but they called Guinan nothing but 'Madam Guinan'
  
>>(and where in hell would they come about thinking the name "Guinan" was in an
y  
>>way 'normal' for that town and that time period?).
>>
>>To answer the obvious rebuttal, "Perhaps, but this is a science fiction show 

>>and not a political one."  This show is most certainly a political show.  The
ir  
>>stories often speak of their positions on poverty, sexism, inter-species  
>>chauvinism and so on.  Yet, they cannot give a PASSING MENTION to racism at o
ne  
>>of the most racist times in our history?  C'mon, this is way off.
>>-- 
>>-- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
>>-- NeXTmail ok
>
>
>I did notice these things, and yes it irked me a little too.
>However, I wonder if the geographical location of the episode in any way
>justifies this.  If they had been in 19th century Confederacy-territory
>then I could see BIG reasons for complaint, however, if my memory serves
>me right, San Francisco was still in its infancy when the Civil War hit,
>and so perhaps the racism that was so inbred in other parts of the country
>was not as prevalent in SF?    
>
>

Actually, if I am correct, (I don't have my history books here right now), 
there was a comparitive lack of racism in the West durring this time. Many of 
the coyboys durring this time were black (ex-slaves--escaped or freed), and in 
the harsh environment that formed California (where the episode was set), there
wouldn't have been as much racial injustice as the South, or even the North. 
Again, I'm no history professor, but I seem to recal that the racism problem 
has actaully escalated in this area of the country since the period right after
the civil war.


Sean
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From: g92n3258@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR RL NICOL)
Subject: Where no man - the episode that has that feeling
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Distribution: World
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 18:40:03 GMT

I recently re-watched the second pilot episode of the original series and 
still feel that, more than all the episodes and films that have yet come our 
way from Star Trek, it still is the one that has that particular FEEL about 
going where no man has gone before - the feeling of wonder at being at a 
distant point of our galaxy.  It's the kind of episode that makes you want 
to walk outside and just stare at the stars for a while.

In my mind, it probably rates as the second best Trek of all time, first 
being "The City on the Edge of Forever" - it seems to be everybody's 
favourite.

Star Trek: The Motion Picture comes close to Where No Man in bringing on 
that particular feel, esp. when the Enterprise leaves the space dock and you 
see it moving away from Earth as the sun breaks over the horizon.  But 
overall, the second pilot has the edge.

As for Sttng, the best episode I've seen so far that has this feel is "
Yesterday's Enterprise", but even it doesn't come close to "Where No Man" or 
STTMP as far as "the feel" goes.

Opinions or other preferences?

Ryan.
From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Hunter-Takei
Date: 4 Oct 92 04:36:06 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha



If this is a well-known fact, pardon me, but I just watched a movie that
had both Jeffrey Hunter and George Takei in it.  The movie is very old,
I think the title was "From Here to Eternity".


--
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|Computer Operations		 |             VF-142 Ghostriders             |
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|tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu         |              Fighter Squadron              |
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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Picard and Crusher
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:05:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.103902.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:
>I do, however, feel that there might be some past romantic relationship between
>_Guinan_ & Picard.  I *hope* so, anyway. :-)  (Though for some reason this 
>possibility seems to really upset a lot of people!)

Perhaps they're intimidated by a woman who's more substance than fluff?
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
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From: stanlejg@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU (Jerry G. Stanley)
Subject: Re: STAR TREK TIMELINE?
Reply-To: stanlejg@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 07:29:11 GMT

In article <LiyqRB2w165w@ailanth.UUCP> tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Robert Oliver) writes:
>I've been thinking of posting the Star Trek Timeline again but I'm not 
>sure if it's worth it. 

	If you don't repost it, could you please e-mail me a copy.

Jerry

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From: dlin@weber.ucsd.edu (Diane Lin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Picard and Crusher
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:22:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: network.1a8b5fINNp72
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu


At a recent Convention, Patrick Stewart was asked about the
Picard-Crusher relationship.  He said that he and Gates McFadden
basically conspire to add a bit of romance/mystery to the
relationship between the captain and good doctor.  Stewart said that
they both love to inject something extra in their scenes together.
So, whether the writers intend it or not, at least the actors are
aware of something more going on between the characters.
-- 
Diane C. Lin			"Live now; make *now* always the
dlin@weber.ucsd.edu	         most precious time.  Now will 
(Dylan's mom, 21 months)	 never come again." (ST:TNG)
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From: flaufer@flc.rni.sub.org (Felix Laufer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Where to find Trekkie's Shop in NY ?
Date: 1 Oct 92 03:56:54 GMT
Organization: Felix Laufer Chemistries

Hi !

Friends of mine are visiting NY this month, and I want to let them buy me some
trek-articles (booklets, pins etc.).

Does anyone out there know a shop in NY City  that sells such things ?

Thanx very much.

Felix

P.S. please answer fast, they leave me in 4 days :-)


-- 

bortaS blr jablu'Dl'reH QaQqu' nay'


Revenge is a dish which is best served cold - klingon proverb
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From: meg5184@hertz.njit.edu (Starman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: * For Auction: Star Trek Blueprints
Date: 5 Oct 92 11:48:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

These are the exact same Blueprints made by Ballentine books in the
early 70's. Excellent condition...only a small scratch on the front
plastic cover which goes through only to the front page, but NOT onto
any of the blueprints. The scratch is a easly 2mm x 1mm large. All
blueprints are intact. The leather binding is in great shape. Make
offers to the address below.

=============================== Mike Gaines ============================
= WHAT is your name?............................Captain Jean-Luc Picard=
= WHAT is your quest?.............................I seek the Holy Grail=
= WHAT is the average velocity of a Bird of Prey?...Romulan or Klingon?=
=                        I.....I don't know AAAAAHHHHH!                =
========================== meg5184@hertz.njit.edu ======================
                            AOL: Graphix@AOL.COM
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From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: Re: Info please on stations carryind DSN
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:57:41 GMT

A list was re-posted (from the summer) of the stations scheduled to
broadcast Deep Space Nine:


In article <97561@bu.edu> mab@buphy.bu.edu (Michael Burstein) writes:
>The list posted failed to mention Boston. Who's showing it here?

No idea.  The best thing to do is to call the station which
is currently broadcasting *current* episodes of TNG and to ask if that
station will be broadcasting DSN (most likely it will).  If it isn't,
I imagine you will be told which local station is scheduled to show
Deep Space Nine.


-- 
'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
                         Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
                         Space Telescope Science Institute
                         Baltimore, MD   21218
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From: shayden@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Sean Lee Hayden)
Subject: Re: HELP!! Info on Picard's Background!!
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:50:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.111836.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:
>In article <1992Sep23.205438.3254@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, shayden@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Sean Lee Hayden) writes:
>
>Gee, is that all?  Why don't you just ask us to write the report for you?
>If you choose a fictional character to write a paper on, you've got to 
>watch/read all the stuff that's been written/filmed about him/her/it, not rely
>on other folks to do your homework for you!  
>Just out of curiousity, why _are_ you writing a paper on a fictional character?
>Is this a creative writing project?  A media project?  Is your professor
>_expecting_ a paper on a fictional character?
>
>Kellie M-S
>internet::matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
>

Keep your flames to yourself...

It is for my girlfriend who happens to be an avid fan of Picard.  Though
she had not whatched STNG till we met about a year ago. SOOOO  She did not\
get to see the background on him.

If you don't what to give out what you know (* if anything*) Then just
shut up and N over to the next article. (* What an uptight bitch *)

With utmost sencerity(*sp?*)
Sean
From: noel@umbc2.umbc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: A silly Top 10 list
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:52:47 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore County


	Sorry for taking so long to post this, but I now have a day job and 
will not be able to post the list until this time.  If anyone likes I can post 
it late on Sunday instead.
	So from the home office in Arbuts Maryland, we bring you

TOP 10 RESAONS FISH HEADS ARE BETTER THAN KLINGONS

10.  They smell better

9.  They use less uniform material and living space

8.  They don't have a lot of rituals that get in the way of things

7.  They are natural Tribble repellant

6.  A fish head didn't kill Kirk's son

5.  They don't have a difficult language, (or any)

4.  Borg *will not* assimilate them

3.  Romulains do not hate them

2.  They are a lot easier to film and do make-up on

and the number one reason fish heads are better than Klingons

1.  Fish heads are never seen drinking cappachino with romulains plotting to
    overthrow the Klingon Empiree ew
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From: bneves@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (barbara.a.neves)
Subject: Re: New Trek Offering from Hallmark???
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:28:46 GMT

Regarding those mysterious Startrek waterglobes...they are NOT a Hallmark
item.  I put my order in for one back in August at a store in Altemonte
Springs, FL on Route 436 called "The Christmas Collection." (407-862-5383)

As of today (10-5-92) they have not come in.  I also saw them in a catalog
called "Downs Collector's Showcase."  They show a price of $50.00.  While
in Florida, I found several "collector" type stores taking orders for the
globes.  The pictures show it to be quite nice.  It looks like last year's
Hallmark Enterprise ornament mounted in a waterglobe filled with glitter.  A
battery is needed for the lights.  The toll-free number for the "Downs"
catalog is 1-800-558-4200.  If you've never seen this catalog, please call
and get one sent to you, it has several neat Star Trek items.

Good Luck.

Barbara
Piscataway, NJ
From: billrey+@pitt.edu (William A Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Star Trek Mall
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:02:56 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

I was just wondering if anyone knew where one might purchase the rank pins
that are used in STTNG?  I saw an ad once, but I have since lost it. 
Although I am excited about this mall store for Trek items, I need those
items (rank pins) before the end of October... I'm sure you can guess why.
Thanks in advance to any help!

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From: wildcard@nevada.edu ( WildCard !!)
Subject: Re: Netiquette, sex, nudity, Peter David (was Re: "Probe" and "Imzadi")
Organization: Shadowland BBS, Guinan Division
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:53:49 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.141829.18415@hellgate.utah.edu> jwindley%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Jay Windley) writes:

>Obligatory Star Trek:  Why doesn't Guinan have any eyebrows?

ObReply: Because Whoopi Goldberg doesn't.  Really! She has a US chat-show late
         night, and she appears on it sans eyebrows.

                                   - WildCard !!

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From: hinson@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Jason W. Hinson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Modern THEORIES and Reality (was RE: S.O.S. signal!)
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:23:07 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Physics Department

CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP000) writes:
>Actually, different frames of reference will have different points
>of view as to the order in which events take place so causality
>violation *is* expected to occur as a result of FTL travel.  This was
>discussed in rec.arts.startrek.tech: RE:Subspace 101.  Jason Hinson
>managed to avoid causality violation by using a special frame (which
>implies that Einstein was essentially wrong) while I contended that
>causality violation is not a concern in a universe that already exibits
>time travel.

You KNOW I have to respond to this :')

First: My idea only allows the violation of Einsteins theories while you
       are traveling in warped space.  The special frame is only special
       when you warp the field.

Second:  Yes, the universe does exibit time travel, but ONLY "forward"
         in time as far as we know.  You cannot violate causality by
         traveling only forward in time.

I try to hold on to causality. After all, who wants to believe that a
victim can die from a bullet to the chest BEFORE his assassin ever pulls
the trigger? In that case, the assassin is destined to pull the trigger,
and there is no such thing as free will.

-Jay
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