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From: TRENHOLM@admin.humberc.on.ca (Joy Trenholm)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Employability skills software for voice-activated computers
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:28:57 GMT
Reply-To: TRENHOLM@admin.humberc.on.ca (Joy Trenholm)
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference

Index Number: 20876

I am interested in researching the availabliity of software
programs on employability skills for voice-activated computer
systems. If anyone is aware of the existance of such programs,
could you let me know the name, publisher, where they can be
obtained, and any other information that you think might be of help
to me. Thanks!!!!
From: Jim.Danley@f20.n233.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Danley)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: UNIX
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:24:59 GMT
Reply-To: Jim.Danley@f20.n233.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:233/20 - Lucid Dream, Urbana IL

Index Number: 21140

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 DM> Hi Jim.  Nice to run into another blind user of Unix.  How did
 DM> you get hold of manuals?  did the system you were using have the "man"
 DM> facility?

Daniel,

I was handed a set of three or four UNIX manuals when I first
started my current job.  I wish I could have seen the grimace on my
face!  Knowing my abilities and limitations, I asked if there was
any on-line source of the information contained in the manuals.
When my coworker explained the "man" program to me, I wish I could
have seen my face light up!  Yes, our systems have the man facility
and frankly, I don't know what I would have done without it!

For those who are reading/listening and don't know what "man"
is...  Most UNIX systems provide a program called "man" which
allows you to look up any UNIX commands and get detailed on-line
text.  Basically, it's the manual on-line!  It's great!

So, Don, how long have you been using UNIX?  Do you get a chance to
write any C programs?

        Jim

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From: ristad@elan.princeton.edu (Eric Sven Ristad)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: legal questions
Summary: request for legal advice
Keywords: disability act
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:05:29 GMT
Reply-To: ristad@elan.princeton.edu (Eric Sven Ristad)
Organization: Princeton University, Dept. of Computer Science

Index Number: 21104

Please help me with two questions I have:

1. How can I obtain a copy (or comprehensive summary) of the Federal
   disabilities act and of any related laws in New Jersey?
 (Although I have many questions about the law, one pressing question
 is whether a currently-inaccessible retail grocery store located in NJ
 is obligated under the law to make itself accessible to the handicapped.)

2. What (if any) legal remedies exist to force a person or company to
   comply with the disabilities act?
 I am interested in all legal courses of action that I could purse, in
 as much legally-accurate detail as possible.  (For example, how to
 start a class action suit against a private corporation for violation
 of disabilities laws.)

I am unfortunately unable to regularly read this newsgroup, so please
reply to me (ristad@princeton.edu) by email.  If there is interest, I
will summarize useful responses and post to the newsgroup.

Thank you,
Eric
From: dashiell@nadc.navy.navy.mil (Jude DaShiell)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: keeping the blindness access peopple in business
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:38:37 GMT
Reply-To: dashiell@nadc.navy.navy.mil (Jude DaShiell)
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 21201

If we don't forego the earlier investments every five years some of
those expensive blindness access firms will go out of business.
What a tragedy!  When a speech synthesizer upgrade costs more than
a math coprocessor card it's time to flush the market.

Jude
From: Jerry.Berrier@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jerry Berrier)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Using Word Perfect with Vert
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:07:21 GMT
Reply-To: Jerry.Berrier@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA

Index Number: 21110

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

     I use WP5.1 with Vert Plus, and it seems to work okay with no
     modifications at all.  I guess it must be different with older
     versions of software.  By the way, I also use Q And A, a database
     management and word processor program, and I find it much more
     useful and much easier to use than Word Perfect.  It does not have
     anywhere near the variety of word processing features that Word
     Perfect has, but it has more than I will ever use.  I mostly use
     the word processor to write letters and to document activities, and
     it works great for that.

... WB3BBP, 79.9 Degrees West, 40.44 Degrees North.

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From: Eric.Bohlman@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Eric Bohlman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Exception dictionaries
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:07:34 GMT
Reply-To: Eric.Bohlman@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA

Index Number: 21111

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

If your screen reader supports an exception dictionary (or if your
synthesizer has a utility to support one), how are you using it?
About how many words do you typically define?  Do you prefer to
define exceptions interactively, or to use a word processor to
create a file of exceptions?  What do you or don't you like about
the way your system works?  If you could specify the ideal
exception dictionary system, what would it be?

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From: Silverbow@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Silverbow)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: EHRLER'S DANLOS
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:05:20 GMT
Reply-To: Silverbow@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:203/11 - The Broken Rose BBS, Sacramento CA

Index Number: 21191

Is there anyone out there that has this connective/muscle/tissue disorder?
If so, talk to me and let me know how your life is going.  I have this disorder along with the messed up heart valve that normally one is born
with.

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From: Bill.Reif@f12.n233.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Reif)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: dog guide rules
Date: 11 Apr 92 12:53:32 GMT
Reply-To: Bill.Reif@f12.n233.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:233/12 - The Temples of Syri, Springfield IL

Index Number: 20986

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

     In a message of 3-23-92 responding to your excellent post to Bill
Cappleman, legal Eagle writes:

LE>      As a ten-year dog veteran , I could not agree with your post more.
LE>
LE> I only wish there had been more
LE> explanation forthcoming, and that the instructors gave the dogs and we
LE> students the credit we deserve.

     The board through which I access the echo encourages the use of
aliases; and my off-line reader inserted the alias when I had        red
to do some editing.  I am Bill REif, the author of the message from
"Legal Eagle".  I am fairly new to this echo, FidoNet, and the use of
this off-line reader.  It was not my intention to use an alias here.

     For those who are curious: I am an attorney with the Illinois
Attorney General's Consumer Protection Devision.  (Thus: my local alias.)
 I am following, with interest, the discussion regarding the deceptive
TSI advertisement.  I would like to know whether this add has been
circulated anywhere in Illinois.
___
 X BABBLE v1.0 X Error 216: Tagline out of paper.

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From: Rick.Hart@p0.f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Hart)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: My Daughter and Special Olympics
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:51:11 GMT
Reply-To: Rick.Hart@p0.f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/5109.0 - National Amputee Co, Dallas TX

Index Number: 20832

[This is from the Amputee Conference]

I have a beautiful daughter named Jessica who is 8 and has cerebal
palsy.  She is in a power chair almost all day and other than various
therapy sessions, she does not get a whole lot of exercise.

I have been monitoring your messages on various competions and wonder
what age Jessica could or should get involved.  An how would I go
about getting her started?  We live in Dallas, Tx.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Rick Hart

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From: Ann.Lemke@f9.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Ann Lemke)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: depression
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:30:27 GMT
Reply-To: Ann.Lemke@f9.n381.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/9 - Sky's The Limit BBS, El Paso TX

Index Number: 21163

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi Mike,
All of your questions are valid and I'll answer insofar as I have any
information, but I am not an expert in endocrinology, although I've been
interested in this topic for some time.  First, there are two points
that seem to be established in the literature but neither of which have
been systematically pursued to determine what they actually mean.
First, the circadian rhythms of blind people as measured by EEG
recordings differ in many cases of those of sighted persons and in some
instances resemble the patterns of some depressed individuals.
Secondly, the cortisol suppression patterns as measured by the
dexamethasone suppression test are similar for at least some blind
people and some persons with depression.
Since most people blind or otherwise don't customarily go in for these
sorts of endocrine tests, there just isn't apparently enough data to say
that one can prove that blind people are more vulnerable to depression.
If there is a link between endocrine levels and depression in blind
people, I would suspect the explanation goes something like this:
Because of the blind person not taking in as much light or not
processing it by the retina/optic nerve/brain in the same manner as with
sighted individuals, the circadian rhythm is more prone to differ.  I

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From: Steve.Matzura@f203.n2603.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Matzura)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Survey
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:32:49 GMT
Reply-To: Steve.Matzura@f203.n2603.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2603/203 - The Shop Mail Only, Flushing NY

Index Number: 20881

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

I am posting this message in as many places as I can where I think I might get
some good feedback.  Basically, my question is this:

If you have a disability that impairs your performance while pouring liquid
from one vessel to another, then this survey is for you, and I'd very much
appreciate it if you'd read and respond.

Here are the questions:

1.  Who trained or taught you how to pour liquids--in particular, hot liquids,
like tea, coffee, etc.--from one vessel (say, a coffeepot or teakettle) to
another (say, a cup)?

2.  What was the methodology used in your instruction (i.e., pour by weight,
pour by sound, pour by estimation, use your finger, etc.)?

3.  Did you stick with that training or instruction afterward, or did you
simply adhere to the taught techniques to get your instructor off your back,
then you went off and did what you pleased?

4.  What method are you using now?

Thanks for any and all replies.  My girlfriend, a rehab teacher, wants to know
the answers to these questions in order to understand a little better how
things are with rehab agencies these days vs. how they were in the past.  She
has worked in the rehabilitation field for some time and recently ran up
against someone who did everything by the book, no matter whether it was good
for the client or not, and would like to hear what some "clients" have to say
about it.

Thanks again for any and all responses.

Steve Matzura

Via: FrontDoor 2.02

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From: Linda.Iverson@p0.f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Linda Iverson)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Shopping
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:31:14 GMT
Reply-To: Linda.Iverson@p0.f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/5109.0 - National Amputee Co, Dallas TX

Index Number: 21167

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi, Nancy!
     I have done shopping all the ways you mentioned, but never alone.
I'm not saying a totally blind person couldn't, but I haven't figured
out how to read the cans and boxes on the shelves.  When I ask for
assistance from people in the store I try to go at a time when they're
not busy so I inconvenience anyone as little as possible.  Once or twice
I've had groceries delivered, but I find it expensive and occasionally I
don't get what I request.  I find going with a friend who uses many of
the same products I do to work the best.  My son is 11, and we have done
short grocery runs together, but I minimize his assistance in such
things because I don't feel it is responsibility.  I have seen some
blind parents treat their sighted children as slaves and I won't do
that.  He has gone to the store for me on occasion and does a good job
of it, but I have him do it because I think he needs to learn certain
skills for himself.  Moderation is my motto.
     I always prepare a grocery list so that makes shopping easier for
all involved and saves me money since I seldom shop on the
spur-of-the-moment.
     Hope this helps, but should you have questions, please ask.
     Linda

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From: Scott.Gabel@f207.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Scott Gabel)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Catheters
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:04:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: handicap.21075
Reply-To: Scott.Gabel@f207.n260.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/207 - The Recovery Room, Rochester NY

Index Number: 21075

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

I have been reading some messages here on this conference about the
use of Catheters and I now am supposed to use them intermittently.
I was wondering, is it something someone easily adapts too?  Does
it get easier to use them as you use them more and more?  Obviously
(from my own experiences so far) its not the most pleasant feeling
in the world and I hope it gets easier.

Any comments would be appreciated.

Scott
 * SLMR 2.1a *

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From: Stew.Bowden@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org (Stew Bowden)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Ada & jury duty
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:00:32 GMT
Reply-To: Stew.Bowden@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:377/6 - T.A.B.B., Tampa Fl

Index Number: 20898

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Scot: I haven't seen too many succewssful reasonable acomodation
suites when the expense was considered prohibitive. Hope the guy is
successful, but I am frankly sceptical.

===
 * SLMR 2.1a *

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From: Curtis.Delzer@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Curtis Delzer)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: A C B CONVENTION
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:19:05 GMT
Reply-To: Curtis.Delzer@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:203/11 - The Broken Rose BBS, Sacramento CA

Index Number: 20918

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

The obvious advantage of the KPR is that you don't have to be a
computer wizzard to run it.  For all others including the PC-KPR
you must be able to run your own screen reading software package,
is not portable and I've experienced while reading with a computer
that the screen reading packages make the reading less natural than
the KPR.  so, now that I've put in my 2 cents, (which turned out to
be around 50 or so)  have a superlative day and keep reading!

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From: Ann.Lemke@f9.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Ann Lemke)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Blind fold the sighted
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:56:41 GMT
Reply-To: Ann.Lemke@f9.n381.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/9 - Sky's The Limit BBS, El Paso TX

Index Number: 20887

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi Roy,
Your comments were so complete that I can really add nothing.
Simulating sensory impairments (blindness or deafness) or learning
disabilities or other cognitive impairments usually does more harm than
good as you have pointed out.  I believe this sort of "show and tell"
does no good and a great deal of harm to the dignity of disabled
persons.  I heard of a sensitivity activity once that I thought really
did sound good.  It was a road rally where each team had a sighted
driver and a blind "navigator"; i.e., the blind person had the braille
instructions for the route and the sighted driver had to rely on his
ability to communicate with the blind navigator to get the instructions.
That sort of thing that teaches cooperation between the disabled and
non-disabled is positive and certainly imparts messages about the
disability experience.
Ann

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From: rjkopp@mailbox.syr.edu (Ray Kopp)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: alt.autism
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:15:10 GMT
Reply-To: rjkopp@mailbox.syr.edu (Ray Kopp)
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 21207

For those that are interested there will be a listserve group on autism
very shortly.  I will post the information when I see it is created if the
person setting it up doesn't.  He contributes here also.

Ray Kopp
rjkopp@mailbox.syr.edu
Bitnet: RJKOPP@SUVM.BITNET
Syracuse New York
From: Paul.Migliorelli@p1.f203.n2603.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Migliorelli)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Blind fold the sighted
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:38:22 GMT
Reply-To: Paul.Migliorelli@p1.f203.n2603.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2603/203.1 - The Shop Mail Only, Flushing NY

Index Number: 20950

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Oh yes, and when I've gone to the movies with a sighted someone,
and have even taken the time to sit in a quiet or out of the way
area so as not to disturb others around us while my companion is
explaining certain things, how many times have we been told "Hey,
why are you here, wasting a seat when someone who could see this
film could have it instead of you"?  There's that which is blatant
ignorance, but, on occasion, I've also been literally yelled at
regarding the fact that hey, it's one thing that you can't see the
movie, but you're wearing those hearing-things, too, so why are you
in this theater??

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From: Ann.Lemke@f9.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Ann Lemke)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Voice computers or what
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:16:26 GMT
Reply-To: Ann.Lemke@f9.n381.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/9 - Sky's The Limit BBS, El Paso TX

Index Number: 20910

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Regarding your question about computer use for a dyslexic person with
vision problems:  There are a number of options depending on how your
friend learns.  If she is primarily an auditory learner, then speech
synthesis might enhance her ability to use the computer.  If she is
primarily a visual learner and also has vision problems, then some kind
of screen enlargement or system that changes color, brightness, and
other screen attributes might be helpful.  Also, many dyslexic persons
find spell checkers, outline and grammar checker programs to be
especially helpful.  Since each dyslexic has individual needs particular
to their disability, there just aren't generic answers.  Your friend
should arrange to visit a program or center that could permit a try-out
of various combinations of hardware/software to determine what is best.

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From: Linda.Cummings@f34.n375.z1.fidonet.org (Linda Cummings)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Spasticity
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:50:12 GMT
Reply-To: Linda.Cummings@f34.n375.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:375/34 - Batteries Included , Montgomery AL

Index Number: 21031

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

 > think the important point is that there are multiple proper
 > approaches to a pain or spasticity problem, and much individual
 > variation in the way any particular patient is going to respond to
 > them.  This is part of what makes up the art of medicine that goes
 > beyond our scientific basis of understanding.

I know.  In "group" they explain how some medication works wonders
for one person and won't do diddley for another person.  I guess
that's why there are so many medications.

Linda

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From: wtm@bunker.shel.isc-br.com (Bill McGarry)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: alt.autism
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:15:10 GMT
Reply-To: wtm@bunker.shel.isc-br.com (Bill McGarry)
X-Fidonet: None

Index Number: 21018

Altan Yazici (axy01%albnydh2.BITNET@vm1.nodak.edu) writes:

> It is fine, but there may be some people who cannot get access to
> newsgroups.  Myself, for example.  Is anyone interested starting a
> list on a listserv similar to l-hcap?

My suggestion would be to have a listserv mailing list that is gatewayed
to the newsgroup.  The objective is to get the maximum number of
people networked together.

This is basically how the Handicap Digest (L-HCAP) works -- it
is gatewayed with the misc.handicap newsgroup on Usenet.  In the
case of "alt.autism", you would NOT want either the mailing list
or the newsgroup to be moderated so an article submitted to the
mailing list would automatically be be submitted to the newsgroup
and vice-versa.

I notice that you are on a bitnet site so you may be able to get
the listserv list set up right there.  If not, I have one or two
places that would probably be willing to support a new list.  I
can also help in getting the gateway set up.

Another area that should not be overlooked is the Fidonet side.
Currently, there is not autism conference as far as I know but
I would be willing to start one up here on my Fidonet bulletin board
and get it distributed to on the Fidonet side.

                                Bill McGarry
                                (203) 337-1518

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