From: jayson@tbag.tscs.com (Jayson Phillips)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Portable A600?
Date: 17 Nov 92 03:42:57 EST
Organization: Tampa Bay Amiga Group

 
5 Nov 92 21:58:25 PDT joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan) writes:
 
>>     Excuse me, I have to jump in here again.  What about Greneda?  What
>>about Panama?  I don't care what Ronnie Ray Gun called them, Police
>>Actions or whatever.  We sent a bunch of troops to both places to wipe
 
Well,  I  wouldn't say "We sent a bunch of troops", more like the President
sent  a  bunch  of troops (and planes and helicopters).  I didn't do it.  I
didn't even vote for the guy.
 
>>out people we didn't like.  Sounds like a war to me, just a little closer
 
>Wipe out what people?  You have your hatred of murder aimed at the wrong
 
What people?  Try several thousand Panamanian civilians killed for example.
Not  to mention the heavy destruction of property.  And the "Drug King" was
another  stoopid  piece  of  propaganda.  The Drug problem is much worse in
Panama  then  it  ever  was, just run by diferent people with different CIA
connections.
 
>people.  No one was "wiped out" dude.  Both have since been shown to be
 
Correction.   Lots of people were wiped out.  Oh, if it wasn't put forth by
Mr.  Genecide Bush on national TV then I guess it didn't happen huh.  Do a
little research and get a clue.
 
>justifiable and shown that the lives of non-combatants were protected and
 
What  a  joke.   Neither  have  ever been justified in any way.  Panama was
Bush's personal problem with his crooked relations with Noreaga and Greneda
was  just  simple  imperialism.  You simply can't justify a war (ie massive
killing) for the gain of a few individuals.  Although Bush tries hard.
 
>respected (except in one case of a soldier who was later charged with and
>convicted of rape.  Would THIS have happened in those other countries!).
 
>Also, they were hardly "wars"...  there was never any declarations by either
 
You  can define "war" anyway you want.  Viet Nam wasn't declared either but
it  was  certainly  a war.  I'd say that when you have planes, helicopters,
tanks, and several thousand people shooting at each other that it qualifies
as  a  war.   You're  free to use your own definition.  In fact Korea, Viet
Nam,  Panama,  and  Greneda  are  proof  that  the President is exempt from
constitutional  law  in  that  he  can  send  the military into war without
declaring  it.   How convenient for the President and his buddies.  But how
inconvenient for the poor suckers that end up fighting and dying for them.
 
>official governments (Noriaga had lost the election, he was not officially
>recognized as Panama's leader.  The properly elected officials ASKED the US
>for help.)
 
Yea right, like other counties really want to be bombed by the US.  This is
certainly  one  of  the most rediculous assumptions I've ever seen.  Let me
know  when  you  find another small country who's leader want's to have his
people bombed.  Don't expect the leader to be too popular.
 
>>George L. Hall-Skank            |"Religion and Politics will both          ///
>>Graduate, Electrical Engineering| exist in greater purity the less        ///
>>Iowa State University, Ames, IA | they are mixed together"           \\\ ///
>>skank@iastate.edu               |               --Thomas Paine        \\X//
 
>-Joel
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>  / Joel E. Swan....Pres./...Media Specialties, Ltd., Oak Forest, IL.USA  /
> / & Senior Producer..../...Moody Broadcasting Network, Chicago, IL. USA /
>/ Portal ID: joeles..../...joeles@cup.portal.com                        /
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 Jay Phillips * Tampa Florida
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