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From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: 2.1b: Scrolling in CLI slooow ...
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:06:58 GMT

Bruce Dubbs (bdubbs@cs.tamu.edu) wrote:
> In article <93021.115710RONY@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at> FLATSCHER Rony <RONY@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at> writes:
> |Scrolling in command-line-windows being it DOS or OS/2 windows is
> |still ***unacceptably*** slow (on a 486 25/50 MHz).

> Hmm. How fast do you want it to go?  I just did a quick test and got
> about 20 lines/sec.  Too fast to read certainly, but I can just barely
> tell whats scrolling by at that speed.  Faster scrolling would be
> detrimental.  Now this doesn't mean paging.  I used the GNU cat *.c
> command to check it out in my other window.

> I'm using the standard VGA drivers on GA+SP.  I did try the 800x600
> mode for my ET4000 based card and found it too slow, but I'll use VGA
> until I get a new 17" monitor.  (Actually, I'm waiting for the XGA-2
> cards for ISA to come down a bit in price too.)

AHAH! I suppose 640x480x16 would be pretty quick but with a 486 you'd
expect to get more than 2 lines a second in 800x600x256

> --
> Bruce Dubbs                   |  Oxymorons of note:
> bdubbs@neuron.tamu.edu        |  Honest Politician, Political Science,
>                               |  Scrupulous Lawyer

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: OS/2 on notebook
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:49:53 GMT

In article <C1HAq7.6z@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> mluong@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Mingh Luong) writes:
>I've got a question for you all or whoever.  Right now, I have OS/2 running
>on my notebook computer (386sx w/4megs), and  I was wondering what 
>can I delete, from what the main OS/2 stuff, so that OS/2 doesn't eat too
>much of my HD space?  And also, what are some suggestions for speeding up
>OS/2? (besides getting a faster computer and more RAM)?

Well, the applets can go (\OS2\APPS), if you like.  So can the
optional bitmaps (\OS2\BITMAP), the Tutorial, online documentation you
don't need, Win-OS/2 (if you don't use it), utilities you don't use
(like TREE or QBASIC), and a few other odds and ends.

More RAM (and not necessarily more CPU) will help OS/2 immensely, so,
if you are considering an upgrade, concentrate your efforts there
first.

You can run without the Workplace Shell and use a "lighter," alternate
shell.  I suggest Mr. File/PM (filename mrfilepm.zip, available via
anonymous ftp from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu; see /pub/os2/00Index for
location).  See the OS/2 FAQ List for some other tips.

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From: rommel@jonas.gold.sub.org (Kai Uwe Rommel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Is OS/2 a dead end?
Date: 24 Jan 93 18:30:50 GMT
Organization: Private

In article <djg2.727715667@crux1.cit.cornell.edu> djg2@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (David J. Greenberger) writes:
>tcscs!zeta@src.honeywell.com (Gregory Youngblood) writes:
>
>>or so.  With OS/2, when it reboots, particularly after a crash or unexpected
>>shutdown, it takes upwards of 5 to 30 minutes depending on your hard drive
>>size and configuration.  One time of that happening and your average computer
>>user is going to be disoriented.
>
>Upwards of 5 to 30 minutes?!  How much RAM do you have?  I have 16 MB on a
>486/33, and it *never* takes more than one or two minutes for OS/2 to boot up.

He probably meant CHKDSK's time to check HPFS partitions after a hard
crash. If you have, for example, a 1GB disk with HPFS exclusively and
have, say, 25000 files on it, a reboot after not properly shutting
down the HPFS partitions will take about 5 minutes.

Kai Uwe Rommel

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DOS ... is still a real mode only non-reentrant interrupt
handler, and always will be.                -Russell Williams
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: NEC P2200 Driver Needed.
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:05:27 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1993Jan26.093912.10129@netcom.com> sagan@netcom.com (Mike May) writes:
>  I'm looking for a driver that will work my NEC Pinwriter 2200 printer.
>I've tried the basic drivers: Epson 24pin, Epson LQ500, IBM Proprinter,
>to no avail, and have look in Hobbes with out any success.  Do any 
>net.people know which driver will work with this printer?  TIA.

What sort of errors or problems are you encountering?  One of these
drivers should have worked.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: OS/2 and the Gravis Ultrasound
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:21:04 GMT

In article <90599@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM> pgleason@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Pat Gleason) writes:
>>OS/2 SoundBlaster driver work for this card (the Ultrasound is SoundBlaster
>>compatible). If not, does anyone know of any plans for an OS/2 driver for the
>>card ?
>The Gravis Ultrasound card is compatible with the SB by using a DOS TSR
>program.

But not for OS/2 purposes.

Your two best sound adapter choices for OS/2, right now, are Creative
Labs SoundBlaster and IBM M-Audio.  MediaVision's adapters should soon
be a good choice as well -- the drivers are in beta.

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From: azzarito@cse.fau.edu (Doug Azzarito)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Should OS/2 be _MY_ OS Too?
Date: 24 Jan 93 14:18:47 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

In article <1993Jan23.202718.8637@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> bblank@mailer.cc.fsu.edu (Bryan S. Blank(FIRN)) writes:
>I am buying a 486DX/33 305 MB disk and 12 MB ram.  Should be one hot
>machine.  It has a Trident SVGA card, and I am putting a 14.4K modem in. 
>My question is...Should OS/2 be my OS for this machine?

I've got a machine just like it, and haven't found anything better than OS/2
yet (I used to run DOS+QEMM+DV, but OS/2 is much better).

> Is 2.0 okay, or do I have to get 2.1B?

2.0 is okay, but 2.1 is better.  You can use the beta now, or wait a couple
of months and get the real thing.

> There is no way for me to download it, as this is
>also my voice line, but can IBM send it to me? 

If you call 800-3IBMOS2 you can order a beta.  Last time I checked they were
out of stock.

> What makes OS/2 so great? 

OS/2 really uses your whole computer - it doesn't let the CPU sit in
brain-dead 8086-emulation mode.  If you bought a Ferrari, would you put gas
in it that caused all but 2 cylinders to go dead?  Nahhh.

Running more than one program at a time is EASY under OS/2.  Right now, I'm
online to a *IX system at 9600bps, and I'm downloading from another BBS at
14.4Kbps.  At the same time I'm installing an OS/2 program, running a
windows program, and unzipping files at the command line.  It keeps you
busy, but you'll never have to wait for your software again - if something
is going to take some time, crack open another program and do something else
until the first program is finished.
 
It's also an excellent software development platform.  If you can get the
C-Developer's Workset/2 package, you'll be able to write 32-bit software and
really go wild!
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:52:02 EST
From: <MBDMD@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: GA+SP Stable But Not This Afternoon

I had some real nasty problems with OS/2 today and was wondering if
someone could point me in the right direction; it would be a big
help if someone would even tell me if my problems are probably
hardware of software related.

I've been running 2.0 GA+SP since a few days after the SP was
available.  The system is a Gateway 2000 486-33 16 meg RAM, 200
meg IDE drive (partitioned 100 meg HPFS & 100 meg FAT), Diamond
SpeedStar Plus using the SP's SVGA support.  This system, until
this afternoon, has been very stable.  An occasional hang, but for
the most part very stable.

Out of nowhere today, full screen DOS apps starting getting TRAP 000D
like crazy.  I couldn't get anything done.  I must have booted from
floppy and ran CHKDSK a dozen times trying to get thing back together.
It got really nasty when I'd boot OS/2 and it would try to restart
all of the apps which were open when it last died and one of those
apps kept getting a TRAP 000D.  Every time I'd boot I go right back
down again.  I gave up running DOS apps but then even OS/2 appps would
just hang the whole system.  <ctl><alt><del> wouldn't even boot the
system.  It was getting ugly.

I decided to take a break and have a little dinner.  When I went back
to work everything was working great again.  I tried opening up every
app I had and the system just kept running and running and running,
no problem.

Since I haven't put service on for a while and the system has been
very stable, with the exception of for a few hours this afternoon,
does this sound more like an intermittent hardware problem?  If so,
any suggestions for diagnostic tools to help isolate/resolve the
problem?  Any advice would be appreciated.

Marty Doyle
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: amah@IASTATE.EDU ()
Subject: Re: Are there any disk defragmenters that are safe for OS/2?
Reply-To: amah@IASTATE.EDU ()
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 08:02:36 GMT

In article <1jl6r1INN5lu@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A.
Bell) writes:
> 
> In a previous article, brent@cco.caltech.edu (Brent R. Eubanks) says:
> 
> >For those unfortunates among  us who are still saddled with have to
> >use DOS once in ahwile (and are therefor stuck with a FAT file system
> >and dual boot on drive C:), does there exist a program that can
> >defragment our disk (including the OS/2 system partition?) safely????
> >
> >
> >Thanks
> 
> Well, after reading Inside OS/2 and the posts in this group,
> it seemd that pc tools and optune will mangle extended attributes,
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Not true. I've been using PCTOOLS (ver. 8) for the past couple of months now.
I've used it to defragment the DOS partition and never had any problems. Of
course I never tried to unhide EAs, so they remain fragmented.

BTW, I've used it both before and after installing 2.1b.

 
> but norton speed disk is safe.
> 
> But I'd certainly back up before trying it.






Max.
amah@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: gag@nosc.mil (Gary A. Gilbreath)
Subject: Re:: SCSI Drive (Fujitsu 520 MB with Adaptec 1542b) not working.
Keywords: Adaptec 1542B, OS/2 2.0
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:43:09 GMT

Here are my experiences with the Adaptec 1542B and OS/2 2.0 GA.

I also had problems with the Adaptec 1542b.  The system gave me an
"Exception in device driver AHA154x$" whenever I tried to boot off
the hard disk.  Figuring there was something wrong with the driver, I
downloaded the beta driver from the Adaptec bulletin board, (408)
945-7727, booted OS/2 off the floppy, copied the old driver to a
different name, copied the new driver over the old driver, then
rebooted from the hard disk. OS/2 finally came up and started the
tutorial.  I went through the tutorial and when it was done it gave
me a blank gray screen with a normal mouse pointer in the middle (no
wait icon).  Meanwhile, the hard disk was getting hammered on.  I
waited several minutes, then started hitting mouse buttons -- nothing
changed.  I let it run for about 45 minutes.  I finally gave up and
rebooted.

It then brought up the shell and I was able to run the solitaire
game.  However, when I exited that, it hung up again.

I talked to IBM tech support.  The first guy I talked to was very
unhelpful.  I told him my problems with the original driver and how
I'd downloaded the beta version and that was better, but it still
hung up.  He told me they only support "their" drivers.  So I told
him fine, but that one doesn't work at all.  He said he'd have
someone call me back the next day.  They didn't.  He did call me back
the following Monday and apologized.  I gave him some more
information.  He said there were about 20 calls in with the same
symptoms and thus far no solutions, so it didn't look too good.  So
by this time I'm about ready to toss OS/2.

However, the following morning I got a call from a different guy.  He
said I should download the latest driver from the Adaptec bulletin
board.  I told him I already had but the other bozo told me it wasn't
supported.  He said no, he was wrong and he would talk to the other
guy about it.  The new guy said my problem was I should have let OS/2
grind away on my disk, that it was doing some kind of normal cleanup
after installation.  However, he did say he'd never seen it take
longer than about 15 or 20 minutes.  (I have a 510MB partition, maybe
it takes longer for a large disk.  I did run CHKDSK from the floppy
and that took about 2 hours so I guess that's reasonable.)

He then said I should NOT use an HPFS partition -- I should remove
the HPFS partition, re-run fdisk and make it a FAT partition and
re-install OS/2 from the floppies.  I haven't done this yet  -- one
of my reasons for going to OS/2 was HPFS.  I may wait for the real
2.1 to come out.

I hope someone finds this useful.

Gary
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: PM print dialogs
Keywords: printing PM
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:40:56 GMT

In article <gershon.727579561@husc.harvard.edu> gershon@husc11.harvard.edu (Ethan Gershon) writes:
>Excuse my ignorance, but I am awaiting my first PM app in the mail (1-2-3
>for OS/2 16-bit version)...
>What kind of dialog does PM give you when you try to print?  I have
>tried prining from some of the applets and help, and I get a dialog
>asking which printer I would like to print from with print/cancel/
>help buttons.  Is this all?  The Mac print dialog gives you options
>of print quality, page orientation, etc.  I know that this can be
>adjusted on the printer object settings, but wouldn't it be a good
>idea to offer some way to quickly change from the defaults on a per-job
>basis?
>Also, I only have one printer object, why does it ask me which printer?
>By the way... the dialog for the Mac has this great option "odd pages/
>even pages only" for printing on both sides: first you print the odd
>pages, then feed the output pages back into the printer and print the
>even pages on the other side.
>(In general I like the WPS and I think it is more intelligent and treats
>the user more intelligently than the Mac interface, but often I think
>IBM could learn alot by studying the details on the mac...)

I agree, but bear in mind that a lot of what you are talking about
depends on good application design.  Apple has been very successful in
getting developers to stick to its design considerations -- Macintosh
applications tend to be very consistent.

I think PM Word, for example, has a more intelligent design here.

I agree with you on the even page/odd page handling -- that would be a
nice feature.  However, I would like to point out that OS/2's printer
objects are deceptively simple in design, but they are remarkably
powerful.  For example, there are timed printing features -- if you
want to print something in the middle of the night, you can schedule
it.  I don't believe the Macintosh has this feature.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: orville%weyrich@uunet.uu.net (Orville R. Weyrich)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1b Install HELP!!!!!!!!!!
Keywords: Help
Reply-To: uunet.uu.net!weyrich!orville
Organization: Weyrich Computer Consulting
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 06:08:25 GMT

In article <dkennett.727678654@sfu.ca> dkennett@fraser.sfu.ca (Daniel Kennett) writes:
>	I just finished downloading all 27 OS2 2.1b disks from hobbes, I have unzipped them (the 3.5 version) and ran loadskf.exe on each disk image.  My problem lies in installation.  HOW DOES ONE DO IT???? I cannot, for the life of me find a install.exe file or anything similar! SYSINSTX.com just gives me an error, and I can't find anyother files that seem to do the trick elsewhere!

You need to put the "install" disk in the floppy drive and press Control-Alt-
Delete. From there you should be prompted for additional disks. One of your
disks IS marked "install", I hope? It is used before "Disk 1".

orville

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jcalvert@scorpio.ic.cmc.ca (John Calvert)
Subject: Is hobbes logged on archie? (was Re: Problems with SIO_034)
Organization: Canadian Microelectronics Corporation
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:12:30 GMT

In article <4053@isgtec.isgtec.com> ted@isgtec.com (Ted Richards) writes:
>Vladek Komorek (vladek@vkom.fidonet.org) wrote:
>: SIO/VSIO 0.34 comm. driver will solve your problem.

I went on an oddessy looking for sio034 and discovered that no version
of this wonderful driver is listed with archie rutgers. I wonder if 
hobbes is being properly logged by archie sites.
Organization: Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Vienna, Austria
Date: Thursday, 21 Jan 1993 11:57:10 CET
From: FLATSCHER Rony <RONY@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: 2.1b: Scrolling in CLI slooow ...

Scrolling in command-line-windows being it DOS or OS/2 windows is
still ***unacceptably*** slow (on a 486 25/50 MHz).


---rony
P.S.: I like the beta and dumped GA+SP for it.
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Mark/Copy Bug
Date: 24 Jan 93 23:07:08 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <24JAN199311163397@zeus.tamu.edu> lmp8913@zeus.tamu.edu (PRESTON, LISA M) writes:
>->Try this: 
>->Open two DOS sessions - one running DOS EDIT.EXE
>->type any text file in the other, e.g. 'type config.sys'
>->Mark and copy some text: e.g.
>->SET PATH=C:\OS2;C:\OS2\SYSTEM
>->Go to the other session and paste it.
>->I am getting similar to: 
>->SE TPATH=C:\OS 2;C:\OS2\S YSTEM
>->  ^           ^          ^
>	We reported this as a bug in the last Beta (pre-SP).  Obviusly it has
>not been fixed, as I just reproduced it in the 2.1 Beta. It did the same
>thing in WordPerfect for DOS, so it is not QBASIC's fault. 
>HEY IBM: Listening? 

If you have access to CompuServe, report your bug there (GO OS2USER;
post in message area 16).  That's the "official" bug reporting
mechanism for now.

One question, though: have you tried toggling the VIDEO_FASTPASTE DOS
setting?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Possible to install OS/2-2.1 beta from second hard drive?
From: covey@cobber.cord.edu (Mark Covey)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:45:06 GMT
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead, MN

Greetings.

I've seen some discussion of installing the OS/2-2.1 beta directly from
its CDROM distribution media without making the 20+ disks.  One has to
make the first 2 installation disks and then through some machinations 
can get the rest of the dope from the CDROM.

I've ftp'd a copy of the beta and have downloaded the zipped files to my
second harddrive.  My question is this:  Can I install this downloaded 
beta from my second harddrive to my first HD without making the 20+
installation disks?  If so, how?

The drives in question are IDE's controlled by a single interface, BTW.

Thanks in advance;

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From: theroux@engr.latech.edu (Scott Theroux)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 LAN Server, 4019 printer, and AES
Date: 26 Jan 1993 20:56:21 GMT
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
Distribution: world
Reply-To: theroux@engr.latech.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: nebula.engr.latech.edu
Keywords: 4019, OS/2 LAN Server, AES

I am looking for the new version the Automatic Emulation
Switching (AES) program for the IBM 4019 printer.
This program allows computers over a network to print 
to one of three virtual printers using OS/2 LAN Server and one
IBM 4019 laser printer with the postscript option.
The version that I have is made to work with a previous
version of OS/2 LAN Server (i.e. pre-LAN Server 2.0) and
will not work with OS/2 LAN Server 2.0.  

If you have any information on a later version of the 
AES program for OS/2 LAN Server 2.0, please post or
e-mail.  

Thanks,

Scott
From: KENKAHN@PKSMRVM.VNET.IBM.COM (Kenneth A. Kahn)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 06:45:42 EST
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Trying to create OS/2-Bootable 5.25" Diskette
Organization: Staff of IBM Fellow - IBM Personal/370
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0
X-X-From: KENKAHN@PKSMRVM.VNET.IBM.COM (Ken Kahn)

In <roelle.727715397@uars_mag> Curtis Roelle writes:
>Wanting to create an OS/2-bootable 5.25" 1.2MB floppy, and faced with
>several apparent choices for accomplishing that goal, I copied the
>following three files from os2-ftp.nmsu.edu:

I'm afraid it can't be done.  There's just no room.  An *absolute* minimum
system is about 1.3M of disk space.  If you have a second disk drive, you
can get away with it by moving some files to it and then pointing to them
in CONFIG.SYS via "B:\"; some of thse files include CMD.EXE, KEYBOARD.DCP,
and VTBL850.DCP (I think that's really it).  The next release of SE20BOOT
will include the ability to build a 2-disk BOOT system that should allow
you to do this automatically.
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