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From: Leonard Hermens <lhermens@eecs.wsu.edu>
Subject: Need to convert RGB signals to NTSC (Monitor)
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A73164456102411A@fury.eecs.wsu.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 19 Nov 92 15:33:25 GMT
Organization: Washington State University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 23:36:10 GMT

I need to convert RGB (red-green-blue) video signals from a Quadra to
NTSC TV
standard video. I realize I can get black and white NTSC easily from the
Quadra built-in video, but I need wiring information or info about
exisiting
products that do this conversion. Pricing and vendor information would
be helpful, too.

Thank you very much,
Leonard

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From: timmbake@mcl.ucsb.edu (Bake Timmons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: radius rocketshare
Summary: I need some info on radius software.
Keywords: RocketWare upgrades bbs
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:20:47 GMT


>Works pretty good, but not as an accelerator. The Rocket works as another
>macintosh that you can delegate background tasks to. (Printing,
>compiling, etc.)
>That is, you have TWO macintohes.
>
>RocketWARE 2.0 will allow you to use your Rocket 33 as an accelerator
>(that is,
>you have ONE FAST macintosh), its in beta test right now.
>
>Pierce

Excuse me, but what exactly do you mean use the Rocket 33 as an accelerator?
Already the Rocket is an accelerator, so do you mean that it+native processor
splits up the work on an application, so that it becomes, in effect, faster
than the Rocket 33 _BEFORE_ RocketWare 2.0?

Also, does RocketWare 2.0 correct any of the incompatibilities running certain
sound programs, Quicktime 1.5, or Macintosh Common Lisp 2.0?  In particular,
my Rocket 25 (_not_ 25i) crashes under Macintosh Common Lisp 2.0.

Finally, is there any internet or BBS access to those who need to upgrade their
RocketWare to 2.0? If possible, how could I be eligible to beta-test RocketWare
2.0?

Thanks.

Bake


--
Bake Timmons, III

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than some good memory..." -- Alyosha in Brothers Karamazov (Dostoevsky)
From: itstevec@hamlet.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Video card for IIvx: why?
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:52:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis
Originator: itstevec@hamlet.ucdavis.edu


Hello,
Can anyone tell me why I need to purchase a video card when using
a 16 inch color monitor on the IIvx? I was told that the IIvx 5/80 with
CD Rom will have 1 meg of vram, so why does Apple tell me I need the
"display card 824" in order to use the 16 inch monitor? Does anyone
out there use the IIvx 5/80 with a 16 inch color monitor and no
display card?

Thanks, 
Steve Chafe
Communications Resources/UC Davis
itstevec@ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: haase@meediv.lanl.gov (Peter Haase - LANL)
Subject: PowerBook 180 RAM Same as 170???
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:37:09 GMT

Can I use 6mb Psuedo-Static RAM (PB170) in a PB 180?????
Thanks in advance..... 

*******************************************************************
Peter Haase                                   haase@meediv.lanl.gov
Los Alamos National Laboratory
Mechanical Electronic Engineering Division
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From: howie@intermec.com (Howard Kaplan x1696)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: SupraFaxModem opinion wanted
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:05:08 GMT
Reply-To: howie@intermec.com (Howard Kaplan x1696)
Organization: Intermec Corporation, Everett WA

In article <louislam.722022576@vincent1.iastate.edu> louislam@iastate.edu (Louis C Lam) writes:
>I'm planning to buy a modem and I like the SupraFaxModem (the fastest one) a 
>lot.
>
>Can you tell me what you think about this modem? pro and cons...
>
>I think I'll take the modem with the software bundle. Are the software good?
>I'm using ZTerm now and I love it. I don't use Compuserve at all, and I have
>a modem cable already. So the only thing I need would be a FAX software.
>
>Please reply by mail since I can't keep up with this group.
>
>Louis
>louislam@iastate.edu

I got this from David Tse who pulled it from comp.dcom.modems group. Read
before you buy Supra!

Howard Kaplan
From: ranjit@unagi.cis.upenn.edu (Ranjit Bhatnagar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Source of cheap 14" Multisync found.  Cable info wanted.
Date: 18 Nov 92 03:18:32 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Ng!

I noticed what appears to be a fairly good buy on a 14"
multisync monitor: $279 for a model by Qume, REFURBISHED,
from Damark.  Resolution to 1024x768.  Damark will sell you
a one year extended warranty for an extra $39; it's not
clear whether you get any warranty with the original price.
Finally, they're waiving the shipping fees until Dec. 31st,
which is nice, and they have a 30 day return period.

If anyone has tried one of these, or has reason to believe
that they will/will not work with a Macintosh (esp.
Powerbook 160/180), send me mail; I'll summarize to the net.

Also, I'd appreciate a pointer to information about building
a cable to connect a multisync monitor to a mac, especially
one that can be changed to fool the mac into thinking it's
seeing a 13", 14", or 16" monitor.

If you want Damark's phone number, send me email.  I have no
connection with Damark.  I have bought from them in the past
and have been somewhat disappointed on each occasion.


	Ranjit


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: isr@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Michael S. Schechter - ISR group account)
Subject: Re: Farewell to the Mac? (not flame)
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 11:12:34 EST

In article <1992Nov18.213527.2511@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo) writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.081023.215@physc1.byu.edu> seth@physc1.byu.edu writes:
...
>I'm here doing Engineering.
>1. The quickness with which Apple comes out with new models. Ex: PB 145.
>   Its obsolete now. Come Jan more models are coming out. What if a
Well, I don't know what they teach you in THAT engineering school, but
in most of 'em, "Obsolete" has NOTHING to do with no longer for sale.
Say, for example, GM no longer offers, say, T-tops, in a particular model
Say that you have the model with t-tops from last year..
Does that make your car obsolete?  You can still get parts, still get it
serviced, it still works fine, still uses the same gas, and you can get all 
sorts of after-market goodies.

Well, it sounds an awful lot like the situation with the 145.

I don't consider my car obsolete,and I don't consider the 145 obsolete.
For that matter, the SE isn't obsolete either.
dated, yes.  antique? yes. obsolete? no. 

Mike Shechter
Realist.
From: ARROYO_E@A1.MSCF.UPENN.EDU (Edgardo J. Arroyo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: The Ultimate Quest for the Hard Drive
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:48:56 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Hey People! Does anybody now of good Hard Drive for the IIsi which is good
quality, fast, and last but never least ECONOMIC. Im looking for 120 MB
one.
Any recommendation is appreciated.

Thanks a Million

Edgardo
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From: sstai@ocf.berkeley.edu (Samuel S. Tai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Laserwriter LS vs NTR
Date: 16 Nov 1992 09:36:39 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: hailstorm.berkeley.edu


PostScript is a resolution-independent page-description language standard
established by Adobe, Inc.  In plain English:  PostScript is a special
printer control language designed to be compatible across many printers,
from low-resolution 300 dpi desktop lasers to 1200 dpi photo-typesetters.

Its main application is in the desktop publishing industry, which uses low-
cost desktop laser printers to "proof," i.e., rough-draft, layouts before
spending $BIG BUCKS$ on photo-typeset final output.

This magic is possible because a page full of graphics (color or gray-scale)
and text (with fonts galore), when encoded in the PostScript language,
becomes a set of mathematical expressions describing how to *DRAW* the page.
When these commands are sent to a PostScript-capable printer, the printer
takes the mathematical formulae and redraws the page to whatever resolution
the printer is capable.

If you need device-independent output, then PostScript is the de facto
standard, and a Personal LaserWriter NTR is a  very inexpensive way of
getting PostScript output.  (Also consider third-party printers; GCC
technologies offers fine competition to Apple in this market.)

If you mostly print text, and must economize, stick with the LS.  If you
discover that you require PostScript in the future, be warned that Apple
makes no upgrade to the NTR available.  The only ways to get PostScript
output on the LS are:

1)  For text-only output, Adobe Type Manager (ATM).  This is a control
    panel that allows you to use PostScript fonts on-screen & on paper.

     or

2)  For graphics & text, either Freedom of Press, or TScript.  These
    applications are PostScript interpreters, i.e., they decode the
    PostScript formulae into bitmaps (dot patterns) and send these
    patterns to the LS.  Be warned that both are *VERY* slow, and
    *VERY* memory-intensive.

A product worth considering in the LS's price range is the GCC Elite
laser, which does have a hardware PostScript upgrade.

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From: anielsen@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Nielsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: SE/30 ethernet & display combo?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: 18 Nov 1992 09:50:17 GMT
Organization: Winthrop Technology
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: andrewn-mac.wt.uwa.edu.au

Hello world,

Does anyone know of an ethernet and display card combination for the
venerable SE/30?  I heard a while back that Mobius was doing such a
beast, but there seems to be no trace of it in the directories I've
searched.

E-mail replies would be appreciated, as I don't often get the opportunity
to browse this group.

_________________________________________________________________________
Andrew D. Nielsen                    Internet : anielsen@uniwa.uwa.edu.au
Computer Support Officer             AppleLink: AUST0190
Winthrop Technology                  
The University of Western Australia                    Tel: +61-9-3801757
NEDLANDS WA 6009   AUSTRALIA                           FAX: +61-9-3821688
From: nick+@pitt.edu (Nick C De Mello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: VCR to Mac?
Keywords: Movies from a VCR to a MAC?
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:44:41 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <laug.721891118@sfu.ca> laug@fraser.sfu.ca (Christopher Lau) writes:
>
>   I was at a computer show a while ago and saw a VCR hooked up to a PC which
>was displaying the movie that was being running in the VCR. I was amazed at
>the editing capabilities that the program in the PC could do to capture the
>pictures from the movie. Can this same procedure be done on a Macintosh?
>What sort of software and hardware do I need if this can be done?

   I *think* what you need is a hardware/software combo called "spigot"
with "framegrabber", you can find out more about them in a MacWarehouse
or equivalent catalogue.  The hardware is a nubus card that attaches to
your vcr, and I *think* you need a lot of ram and HD space.

                                  Luck,

                                   Nick
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From: andreasm@cs.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Mueller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Which Software to FAX with a "normal" modem?
Date: 20 Nov 1992 10:53:43 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: harry.cs.tu-berlin.de

Hi,

it took me a little while to understand, that
I can use every harddisk in Mac.
Same with modems. I have a usual modem and every terminal programm
work fine with it. Now I would like to buy a FAX-MODEM.
I hope there is the same situation, that I can use every FAX-MODEM, or has it to be a modem which is built specially for the Macintosh.
And if I can use it, which software I should use.

Once again, I do not mean modems like Abaton Fax or DoveFax, where the software is included. These modems are too expensive in Germany. I mean a modem which is designed to use with IBM compatibles and would like to supplement it with a good FAX-Software.

What's about the Software of the PSI-FaxModem. Is it able to drive any FaxModem.
I could get it for a few German Marks.

Thanks in advance,
und Gruesse aus Berlin.


andreasm@cs.tu-berlin.de
From: claire@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Claire Sheppard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Need advice
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:58:00 GMT
Reply-To: claire@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Claire Sheppard)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: claire@thumper.cc.utexas.edu

Earlier this month I posted a question about scanners.  I was wondering
if anyone had opinions on the Afga 1200dpi or better flatbed scanners.
Or about the microtek scanner at 1200 dpi [under $1000] that was advertised 
in MacWeek
thanks in advance

Claire
From: 01judge1@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: mac/pc deskwriter hookup - info?
Date: 23 Nov 92 08:34:04 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Hi all, 
has anybody wired a Deskwriter to both a PC and a Macintosh ?
Have you had any problems?
What hardware, accessories do you need?
This post adds to a previous request for in formation....
Thanks in advance for any commentary......
Graham
From: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Quadra onboard video
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:01:09 GMT
Reply-To: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Organization: Peirce Software
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <1992Nov6.160014.28289@news.columbia.edu> (comp.sys.mac.hardware), gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener) writes:
> What is the maximum screen-size that the Quadra 950's onboard video
> can deal with at 24 bits when fully loaded with VRAM?  Can it handle
> 19"  Or would you need an external card for that?

Maximum standard screen size with 24-bit color is 16" (624x832) using
Quadra on-board video.  For 24-bit video on a 19" monitor would require
a NuBus card.

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From: daoffer@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Debora Offer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Troubles with a MacSE
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:06:24 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin
In-reply-to: brownc@p4.cs.man.ac.uk's message of 12 Nov 92 13:30:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.133033@p4.cs.man.ac.uk> brownc@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Christopher C. Brown) writes:
	If you have problems running a two-disk setup, with one internal and one external,
	where the internal boots before the external has spun upto speed, as I did, try this:

	Either Silver Init (from LaCie)
	Or     SCSI Probe (shareware, with mount during startup enabled)

What I do is power up the external drive first, wait for all the noise to settle
down, then boot the Mac.  Another option might be to take the System off of the
internal drive.  (Of course, then you can't boot without the external drive or
a floppy.  :-))
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ivancich@eecs.umich.edu (Eric Ivancich)
Subject: Re: Mail order Macs (Mac&More) comments?
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Department
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:57:58 GMT


Jim McKee writes:
>   BTW, every mail-order place I know of is grey market -> i.e., not
> "Official Apple Dealership." 

What implications does this have for getting a Mac serviced under warranty?
From: jjd@bbn.com (James J Dempsey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Do you REALLY need a coprocessor?  was(Duo opinions wanted)
Date: 20 Nov 1992 15:47:41 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com
Summary: Powerbook == desktop computer

In article <1992Nov19.161622.10766@Princeton.EDU>, awolfe@moo.Princeton.EDU (Andrew Wolfe) writes:

> Just curious - but what do people do on a powerbook that requires an
> FP coprocessor?  Model fluid flow around space-shuttle heat tiles??
> 
> I assumed that most people use powerbools to write, to draw, and to
> connect to remote hosts.  

I think your model of what people do or want to do with their
powerbooks is flawed.  I think the things people want to do on their
powerbooks are exactly the same things they do on their desktop
computers: everything.

I think there are a lot of people who buy a powerbook as their only
computer and not as an adjunct computer to do some non-CPU intensive
stuff.  

I think there are other people out there who have both desktop and
powerbook, but want to be able to do the same things on their
powerbook that they do on their desktop.

One thing I might like to do on a powerbook that requires a FPU is run
A/UX, especially now that you can have 24MB of memory and a 250MB
disk.  Unfortunately, Apple hasn't released an A/UX that can run on
the DUO.  Even if they did, it would only work when docked since there
is no FPU in the main unit.  Perhaps someone will come out with a tiny
floppy adapter size dock with an FPU if Apple ever releases a
Duo-compatible version of A/UX.

I might also like to run games like MacBZone on my Duo which requires
an FPU.

		--Jim Dempsey--
		jjd@bbn.com
		
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From: ibhan@husc10.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Mac ][vx/MIDI
Date: 23 Nov 92 05:06:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc10.ibhan.722495210

lakerb@rcwusr.bp.com writes:

>My neighbor just came over to complain that his new PowerBook will not run his
>MIDI.  Is this because there is no external voltage supplied to the serial
>port?

I had that problem on a Mac II.  I got an interface with its own power
adapter and it works fine.  Also works fine on my PowerBook Duo 230..
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From: lemke@radius.com (Steve Lemke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Radius vs. Daystar Powercache
Date: 18 Nov 92 02:33:31 GMT

Matt_Harrop@magicbb.uucp writes:

}The Radius Rocket has software called RocketShare that allows you to use two
}or more Rockets independantly.  You can also launch one task on the Rocket and
}another on the Macs own CPU.  (I know you can use the Mac's CPU and a Rockets
}CPU on a Quadra, but I'm not sure about other Macs.)  If you're software
}supports it you can also use several Rockets together on one task.  eg.
}MacRenderMan can use 2 or more Rockets at the same time to render an image.  
}Very cool, very fast, and VERY expensive.

VERY expensive?  It's all relative.  How much would multiple Quadra 950's
cost?  You can essentiall stick as many Quadra 950's as you have slots (and
power) for, into your Macintosh, for about $2000 each or so (plus RAM).

Each one becomes a Quadra 950 worth of processing power, linked via the NuBus
network (faster than Ethernet).  So yes, very cool, and very fast, but cheaper
than separate Macs.

I wouldn't have believed this sort of comparison, but I've talked to people
at MacWorld who came to see RocketShare and said that it would be great for
them because they already had "groups" of five to ten Quadra 900 or 950s and
they just weren't fast enough.

--Steve


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From: John.Espinoza@f1009.n124.z1.ieee.org (John Espinoza)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: I would like to compare notes with someo
Date: 17 Nov 92 03:25:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: zeus.18347.2B08ED4C
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/1009 - Mac Exchange, Carrollton TX

I have a 230 currently and am awaiting my DuoDock.  I am of course using
system 7.1 and have experienced some problems w/transitioning to this
system (from a IIcx).  I am currently experiencing problems w/my terminal
programs that I did not have before.  What are the nature of your
difficulties?

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From: poulin@violet.ccit.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Powerbook screen switch?
Summary: can i replace a 1 bit pb screen for a 4 bit?
Keywords: powerbook dossux screen bit
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:32:24 GMT
Distribution: usa, world,local
Nntp-Posting-User: poulin


   
   I am in the understanding that the Powerbook (mine is a 145) has the ROMS
inside to drive a monitor around 12".  My question is that if so, are the
screen to cpu connectors the same across the Powerbook line so that in a few
years I would be able to rip the 1 bit screen currently on the machine and
easily replace it with a 4 bit (or 8 bit if available) Powerbook screen as an
upgrade path.

   Thanks for any comments you might give!
				
				Ian Poulin
				poulin@ccit.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ebido@bio.vu.nl (Etienne Bido)
Subject: Ever heard of western Digital?
Organization: VU Biology, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:24:39 GMT

Somebody offered me a Western Digital 200 MB int. Harddrive for
a good price. But I have never heard of Western Digital!

Does anybody know if they are any good/fast/reliable?


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: parkyn@fraser.sfu.ca (Dale Parkyn)
Subject: Re: MacPlus monitor failed
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:59:58 GMT

What is a cold solder joint? Where is the damaged one? And how is it
different from every other connection on the board so that I can find
it.
Dale
parkyn@sfu.ca

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: tjfs@tadtec.uucp (Tim Steele)
Subject: Re: PB100 LCD Display Quality (Black Specks)
Organization: Tadpole Technology plc
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:55:41 GMT

The word I'm getting from Apple UK at the moment is that this isn't
acceptable and they should change it under warranty.  I think I'll put
that to the test...

Tim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware