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From: zuhars@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Gary Bring The Noise Huckabay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Comparing Eckersley vs. noname reliever
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:37:47 GMT
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Organization: Fed Up With rsb buffoons, Inc.

>In article <BxItuu.4JI@cs.dal.ca> niguma@ug.cs.dal.ca (Gordon Niguma) writes:
>
>>  But as far as actual performance when they were in there, I think Hernandez
>>was better than Eck. The OBA was a mere 7 points higher while the SA was
>>notably lower than the ex-alcoholic (cheap shot!) at a 34 point difference.

Unbelievably cheap, Gordon.  This is pathetic, low, and completely
uncalled for.  You can certainly make a very good argument that
Roberto Hernandez was a better pitcher than Eckersley.

This certainly does not give you the power to judge ANYONE for any
vices they may have, or any flaws in character.  I'm not usually one
to use profanity, but this is chickenshit on your part.  The fact that
Dennis Eckersley is a recovering alcoholic has NOTHING whatsoever to
do with the issue at hand, and you sink to the gutter with this kind
of tripe.

FTR - It should've been Clemens.  

Grow up, Gordon.


-- 
*   Gary Huckabay   * 'I've grown sick and tired of the same old lies.. *
*  "Innocent until  *  I might look a little young, but what's wrong?   *
*   proven guilty." *  You don't have to be old to be wise...'          *
* - A. B. Giamatti. *                               - B. Tewksbury      *
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From: dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell)
Subject: San Francisco/Tampa Bay lawsuit
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 03:59:03 GMT

luigi@sgi.com (Randy Palermo) writes:

>        I feel bad for the good folks of Tampa/St. Pete but when you
>are trying to take away another communities team you have to know,
>going in, that they are going to fight to keep it. The precedent of
>keeping teams from moving has been set time and time again by MLB.
>It sould come as no surprise that they upheld it again.

They seemed to uphold it for no really good reason.  That the Giants might
be sold and moved was no secret.  Where was the fan support in those
waning days?

Let me tell you a true story.  In the mid '80s, Ralston-Purina owned the
St. Louis Blues and wished to sell the team.  The first takers were a group
from Saskatoon, Saskatchewan who wished to move the team (had it happened,
I would hope that they changed the name....Saskatoon Blues?).  Obviously,
the city leaders were all in a tizzy trying to save the team, but I think
more important that finding the local money to buy the team, the fans
started attending games in droves to support the Blues.  They filled The
Arena, a 70 year old building not much better than a big barn, and the
condition of The Arena was a sticking point with the team.  The money for
renovation wasn't there, but the fans came anyway, and it's my opinion that
changed the game, and the Blues stayed in St. Louis.  This was in a period
when the Blues were essentially NHL doormats, and St. Louis is not a hockey
town.  But the support came anyway.

We all know that Candlestick Park is a horror house, but that should not
have stopped the Bay Area from rallying around the Giants to show their
support.  In fact, the attendance after the announcement of the sale was
rather disappointing.  Even when they were winning, the Giants never drew
like a city of that size should have.  If the Giants are so important to
San Francisco, why the weak support in their hour of need?  Meanwhile,
Tampa Bay has sold a few tens of thousands of season tickets for a team
that doesn't exist.

Even if San Francisco wins this round, I have a feeling this is all going
to come up again real soon when the new Giants ownership face dwindling
attendance and still no money to replace their crappy stadium.  The next
time the Giants go up for sale, they will move.  Mark my words.

-- 
 davE.  Making the world safe for intelligent dance music.  dave@bradley.edu.
######### David L. Vessell -- Bradley University Computing Services #########
From: dave@snitor.sni.ca (Dave Till)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: favorite players of youth
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:47:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: sni.1992Nov6.154736.27943
Organization: Owners Of "Winfield Wants Noise" T-shirts

I wasn't really a baseball fan until the Jays arrived,
so I'll have to list my favourite players from the Jays' youth.
(Unless you count one's teenage years as "youth":  I was 17 when the Jays
came to town.)

Favourite Player:  Otto 'the Swatto' Velez.  (OT-TO!  OT-TO!  OT-TO!)

Favourite Pitcher:  I liked watching Jerry Garvin, because he had the
best pick-off move I ever saw.  Had he been able to hold batters to
singles, he would *still* be in the majors.  (I'm not exaggerating:  isn't
Bob McClure still around?)

--Dave "ex-fan of the Beeg Mon, Rico Carty" Till
  e-mail path:  dave@silver.sni.ca or dave@snitor.uucp
From: zuhars@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Gary Bring The Noise Huckabay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: defensive range ratings...
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:26:02 GMT
Organization: Fed Up With rsb buffoons, Inc.

Salty writes:

>   Now not trying to dis the defensive range ratings, but there's is
>   absolutely no way that Stankiewicz or Gagne has more range than Pat
>   Listach. 

Stankiewicz, I dunno.  Listach has great fundamentals, but I'd say
Gagne beats him hands down, in terms of range.  Greg Gagne is one of
the more underrated players (on defense) in recent history.  His
fundamentals are excellent, he has a very quick release, and I expect
that once again, DA will show him to have well above average coverage
of the field.

Of course, this is a subjective opinion.  (DISCLAIMER)

>Listach is cat quick and gets to balls that I just can't
>   comprehend people getting to. I'll believe that Yount doesn't get as
>   many as the other guys, but I still think his ability to get a good
>   jump on the ball is unmatched around the league.

Yount's a sloth in the outfield.  He's past his prime.
(understatement alert)  I'd probably have Hamilton in center instead
of Robin, but Robin has such a rag for an arm, he can't handle RF.
His fundamentals, however, remain excellent.  He really seems to have
lost a step.

Speaking of lost a step...Anyone see that recent photo of Cecil
Fielder?  He must have dropped 20-25 pounds, at least.


-- 
*   Gary Huckabay   * 'I've grown sick and tired of the same old lies.. *
*  "Innocent until  *  I might look a little young, but what's wrong?   *
*   proven guilty." *  You don't have to be old to be wise...'          *
* - A. B. Giamatti. *                               - B. Tewksbury      *
From: larrow@novell.com (Les Arrow)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Reds/Yanks Trade
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:41:54 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia

>.275 with 25 homers and 90 walks isn't bad, but it isn't worth five
>million dollars for a poor defensive RF/DH.  That's what makes him
>expendable.

Yes. But Tartabull hasn't changed as a hitter since last year. What made him
worth 5 mil last year? I'm starting to think logic just doesn't work
when it comes to baseball.

--Les
From: RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: 5 truly unbreakable records.
Date: 7 Nov 92 20:58:07 GMT
 <1992Nov6.060801.15252@muddcs.claremont.edu>

whoops... accidentally hit the wrong key.  "post" instead of "lineadd".
anyway, to continue,

        1991  .296  <>  4.000
        1992  .305  <>  4.000

the year you are probably thinking of is 1984, when jamie cranked a
dinger in his only at bat for the indians.  however, jamie also had
two at bats for the white sox that year.

bob vesterman.
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From: arrow@netcom.com (Les Arrow)
Subject: Re: Reds-Yanks part II, Yanks revenge (was Re: Yankees pitching staff)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:02:22 GMT

>   Why?  Why would anyone pay for Greg Cadaret?  His 1992 stats are
>not pretty.  I'd say, as a baseball player, he's worth $1.99 and one
>of those large slurpee drinks.  Maybe throw in a package of Doritos.
>

That's rather generous for Cadaret. I think I would offer a tootsie roll,
and a couple packs of tic-tacs.

--Les

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From: doctor8@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Jason Abner Miller)
Subject: Re: Ripken wins Gold Glove!!!!!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University - HCF
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:01:00 GMT

In article <92310.073225KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu>, KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu writes...
> 
>  The Baltimore Sun reports this morning that Cal Ripken won his second
>consecutive Gold Glove, and will have a press conference today to announce.
>It is the 50th Gold Glove in franchise history, high in the American League.
>The Sun reports that Brady Anderson and Mike Deveaureux did not win a gold
>Glove (a travesty in my opinion, at least one  of them should have this season)
>Kevin

	What scares me about this is that it means Cal "Not So" Junior is
STILL the best A.L. shortstop, after having a very poorly mediocre season.
Cal visibly lost several steps in range this season, a fact which was 
reported just about every day in the Baltimore Sun and and Orioles' radio
telecasts.  Even without the tremendous decline in his offense this season,
it's clear he's no longer the great shortstop he used to be.
	Does anyone out there have his final defensive stats to compare
him to the rest of the A.L.?  Much as I like Cal, I'm fairly sure somebody
else out there had to have been better at defense this season - from seeing
him play, I'd never have guessed he'd make it.

							Jason Miller
					Mike Mussina - 1992 Cy Young!!

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From: epstein@cs.uiuc.edu (Milt Epstein)
Subject: Re: Rockies 1992 schedule out
Reply-To: epstein@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 04:32:52 GMT

In <1992Nov4.224229.15313@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> wilbanks@spot.Colorado.EDU (Wendell Gee) writes:

>Yes, the 1992 tentative Colorado Rockies schedule is HERE. I'm planning to 
>type it in for future reference on here. 
>
>Would anyone like me to post it?

1992?  Sure, that *would* be interesting.

:-).

BTW, what was ever decided about the NL schedule next year with 14
teams (i.e. how many times each team would play each other)?  We had
some discussion of the possitibilities here some time back, but I
hadn't heard of any decisions being made on it.

-- 
Milt Epstein
Department of Computer Science
University of Illinois
epstein@cs.uiuc.edu
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From: rja@mahogany126.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
Subject: Re: 5 truly unbreakable records.
Originator: rja@mahogany126
Organization: The 1991 World Champion Minnesota Twins!
Date: 10 Nov 92 13:50:08 CST


In article <1992Nov6.162403.12458@informix.com>, barrym@informix.com (Barry Mednick) writes:
> In article <1992Nov6.060801.15252@muddcs.claremont.edu> karaki@jarthur.claremont.edu (Kurt*z* S. Araki) writes:
> >In article <92309.122328RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> writes:
> >>3) single season slugging average.  4.000.  bill lefebvre, 1938;
> >>   buster narum, 1963.
> >Don't forget Jamie Quirk, sometime in the 80's.
> Not quite.  Quirk hit a HR in his only AB with Cleveland in 1984.

To add insult to injury, his HR was the winning blow as Cleveland
came back from 0-10 to win 11-10, knocking the Twins out of the
penant race.


> But, he had 2 AB with the White Sox that same year.
> Franklin lists only the two men above as having 1 HR in 1 AB.
-- 
Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: cs127050@cs.brown.edu (Michael Kalman)
Subject: Re: The New Yuck Mets:A Look Ahead
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:59:23 GMT

In article <cf08abC00WB9FjXF01@andrew.cmu.edu>, Gregg Matthew Sterling <gs34+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:|> Better make that Tony Fernandez at shortstop for next year!!! Yay!!
|> And I still think Sasser is still the better catcher (he can hit!!!!!) and
|> has a decent glove (I don't think he did any worse than Hundley or O'Brien last
|> year).....

    I agree completely- he is superb at throwing out base stealers and does
a credible job at blocking pitches.  The problem is that his pitchers get 
annoyed with his triple pump throws back to the mound after every pitch.
They also seem to think that Hundley does a better job of calling pitches.

    IMHO though, given the Mets offensive woes, Sasser should catch against
all right handed pitching.  His own pitchers should just get used to his 
tentative return throws, and learn to shake off a sign when they disagree on 
pitch selection.   But I guess Torborg really likes Hundley..

                                                 Michael Kalman
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: hbrooks@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu (Harold_Brooks)
Subject: Re: Mattingly, what a fine fielder (was: Hardly not etc.)
Organization: NSSL
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 20:23:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.221202.5156@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes:
>Certainly statistics can make a contribution to player evaluation.  But
>what about when a player has lost that "proverbial" step?  A stathead
>will have to wait for a DA based on a meaningful sample size.  Someone
>who understands what they see will see that that player has lost the
>step and hopefully, will be able to replace that player before the 
>inferior statistics show up. (and then the statheads wail "Why was player
>A replaced by player B?)
>

The evidence certainly doesn't back up your implicit assertion that the
person who uses unsystematic observations to base their opinions on
will notice that a player has lost a step faster than someone who 
uses systematic, recorded observations (whom you refer to as statheads).
Either that or not very many people understand what they see.  Certainly
very few in the media or major league players or managers.  

I offer as evidence the recent comments by the media during the ALCS
about what a fine defensive player Carney Lansford still is.  It was
the people with the systematic, recorded observations who have been 
saying that Carney isn't very good on defense any more.  It was a 
stathead who noted the resemblence of Carney to a carved, oak tree
stump.

I offer as further evidence Gold Glove balloting by the players and
managers.  Ozzie Smith won his 13th consecutive GG this year.  The
players and managers didn't seem to "be able to replace [him as GG] 
before the inferior statistics" became obvious to those who like to 
use systematic, recorded observations.  It was the latter group who
have talked about Ozzie losing a step for several years now.  (Ozzie's
DA in 1988-.742, 1991-.672.)  Ditto for Don Mattingly, Ryne Sandberg,
etc.  If the voters have seen that incumbent Gold Glovers have lost a 
step, they certainly have a funny way of showing it.  Andy Van Slyke
won another GG this year, even though the systematic, recorded 
observations have shown him to have lost a step the last few years.
Andy's DA from 1989-1991:

       AVS    NL   AVS rank (of CF with >99 games)
1989  .613   .595  1 (out of 9)
1990  .577   .595  5 (out of 8)
1991  .534   .534  7 (out of 7)
 
The statheads noticed some time ago that AVS isn't the defensive
oufielder he was.  The National League players and managers 
voting on Gold Gloves haven't yet.  Either they don't understand
what they are seeing or the systematic, recorded observation users
are seeing the evidence before the unsystematic observation users
do.

Harold
-- 
Harold Brooks                    hbrooks@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu
National Severe Storms Laboratory (Norman, OK)
"Here stands baseball's perfect warrior....Here stands baseball's
perfect knight."  Ford Frick about Stan Musial's retirement
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From: summers@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (erick m. summers)
Subject: Re: Gold Gloves Announced
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:54:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.222415.5191@panix.com> spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira) writes:
>From memory:
>NL
>1st: Grace
>2nd: Lind
>Short: Ozzie
>Third: Pendleton
>OF: Van Slyke, Bonds, Walker
>C: Pagnozzi
 P: Maddux

>AL:
>1st: Mattingly
>2nd: Alomar
>Short: Ripken
>Third: Ventura
>OF: White, Puckett, Griffey
>C: Rodriguez
 P: Langston

Erick M. Summers
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: cs902060@ariel.yorku.ca (GEOFFREY E DIAS)
Subject: American League Attendance
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:04:13 GMT


	I read recently that the Blue Jays had sold all but 35,000 of their
seats. That comes out to an amazing 99.2% season sellout. Does anyone have
a figure for Camden with 68(?) sellouts?

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From: jpalmer@uwovax.uwo.ca (The Econoclast)
Subject: First Expansion Draftee Contest: update (revised and corrected)
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:08:34 GMT

This is a repost and update:

	A simple contest (no prizes this time): 

Who will be the first player taken in the expansion draft?

Making this prediction will require a guess about two components. 
1. Which players will be left unprotected by existing teams?
2. Of those, who will be chosen?

E-mail your entries to me, and I'll tabulate them. The winner is the
person whose candidate goes highest in the expansion draft. In case of
a tie, the contestants must arm-wrestle Roger Maynard.
----

Here is a tally of the entries to date:

From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
	Mike Greenwell (I hope).
From: arrow@netcom.com (Les Arrow)
	Pete Smith
From: tml@druhi.att.com(Tim Larison)
	Brian Hunter 1b Atlanta
From: Joe Lundy <jlundy@encore.com>
	Chris Sabo
From: mintz@biology.ucsc.edu (Eric Mintz)
	My pick is Hensley "Bam-Bam" Meulens of the Yankees.
From: ksm@be.seas.upenn.edu (Ken MacFarlane)
	My pick is:  Kevin Maas, Yankees.
From: V085F2WD@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (Ted _?_)
	Danny Tartabull.
   	By the way, ...  Jim Leyritz thinks that he [Tartabull?] will be #1.
   	I think that constitutes Jim's entry. I don't think he should
	be eligible for any prize, though.
From: jpalmer@uwovax.uwo.ca (Doc Palmer)
	Tim Wallach [I note that he has accepted financial compensation in
        exchange for being left unprotected despite being a 10/5 player]
From: <sullis@rpi.edu> (Sean Sullivan)
	My prediction:  Hensley Meulens
From: Kurt "Some Guy" Bose <kbos@carina.unm.edu>
	Well, Hmmph!  I think it will depend on which team drafts first.
	I'll put my money on Joe Girardi, however...
From: Natraj Kini <nkini@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com>
	Jeff Blauser
From: paladin@ikos.com ( Jason Gische )
	Deion Sanders
From: <tcj@math.ufl.edu> Chad 'Mr.B' Jackson
	Going out on a limb here, but...  Todd Stottlmyre, SP, Toronto
From: jsosa@edison.encore.com (Joe Sosa)
	Derek Bell, Toronto.
From: Terry Stewart <stewart@healthy.uwaterloo.ca>
	Kelly Gruber, 3B, Toronto. 
From: "Stephen P. Twombly" <stwombly@cs.ulowell.edu>
	Mike Greenwell


-- 
  Regards,

  John Palmer    London, Ontario       Voice: (519) 661-3533     FAX: 661-3666
  reply to jpalmer@uwovax.uwo.ca       The Economics Institute for Journalists
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From: ddyte@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Aussie Bball News #3- Opening Day
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:21:56 +1100
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

OPENING DAY A WET ONE!!!

There were two games scheduled for opening day, Thursday 5 Nov, with
the reigning champion Dolphins heading to Brisbane, while the Waverley
Reds made the trip up to Sydney to face the Blues. (televised game)

The Dolphins/Bandits game was declared a washout 90 minutes before
the start with the field flooded, so the first pitch of the season
had to wait until the night game at Parramatta stadium. The Lord
Mayor of Parramatta (his name? how would I know?) threw the first
pitch to to Blues catcher Loeb, as the rain began to come down in
Sydney also.

If the film Major League is to be believed, the first batter of the
season sets the tone for the team's year. I don't know what this
means for the Waverley Reds. The first pitch from Ben Weber hit leadoff
hitter Heath in the back. We were told by the commentators that Heath
is a switch hitter, yet he batted righty with a RH pitcher on the
mound and a 240 ft right field line. When, then, would he ever bat lefty?
I guess the Braves organisation (Heath is an import) has asked him to
try out batting righty only for a season. Heath was caught stealing,
then the next batter (Burton or Reeves, can't recall) singled to centre
only to trip over on a throw to first and be picked off by 3 feet.

In the bottom of the second, with the rain pelting down, the Blues began
the scoring in fine fashion. Leading 1-0 with one out, the crucial play
of the game happened. With bases loaded, and big hitting 3rd baseman
Joe Lis on deck, a double play ball was hit to short (again I forget
by whom) where Matthew Sheldon-Collins picked up and threw to (I'll know
these names by the end of the season) the second baseman, who made the
force but then stood there wondering where to throw. Instead of the
inning ending double play, it was two out, two on, and another run in.
Lis then stepped to the plate and thumped Durham Bulls pitcher Darren
Ritter over the netting in right field for a 5-0 lead.

Solo homers to Sheldon-Collins and Myles Barnden in the top of the fourth
put the Reds back in the game a little, but the game was eventually
called in the bottom of the fifth with the Blues up 6-2.

Games continue (I believe for all teams) on Saturday. The Reds will be
looking for revenge in a doubleheader with the Blues in Sydney. Sadly,
no news yet of the Melbourne Monarchs, but their title charge is sure
to begin soon.
                         - David Dyte
Date: Wednesday, 4 Nov 1992 16:06:32 EST
From: <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Reds/Yanks Trade

argh... mike gallego, charlie hayes, and now paul o'neill... i am
actually looking forward to the return of the boss.  sure, the current
front office got tartabull, but steinbrenner would've got him anyway.

i don't understand why the yankees would make such a trade.  roberto and
o'neill have comparable lifetime stats, and o'neill is almost two years
older... from next year on, most likely kelly will be a better hitter
than o'neill.  that's not even considering that roberto cranks on the
basepaths.

so the yankees get a minor league first baseman, too.  whoop-de-do.
why do they need a minor league first baseman? they've got j.t. snow
coming up real soon... if all goes well, they won't have to call up
another first baseman for a long time.  besides, the only thing that
i've seen about this first baseman was that he hit .240 this year, in
A ball. i don't know all that much about the minors, and granted, maybe
he cranked a zillion dingers, but somehow i don't think this guy's all
that much of a prospect.

the official explanation i heard was "a left-handed bat was one of
our needs."  yeah hello.  what the yankees really need is a clue.

bob vesterman.
From: barrym@informix.com (Barry Mednick)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: 5 truly unbreakable records.
Summary: SLG = 4.00
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:24:03 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Nov6.060801.15252@muddcs.claremont.edu> karaki@jarthur.claremont.edu (Kurt*z* S. Araki) writes:
>In article <92309.122328RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> writes:
>>3) single season slugging average.  4.000.  bill lefebvre, 1938;
>>   buster narum, 1963.
>Don't forget Jamie Quirk, sometime in the 80's.
Not quite.  Quirk hit a HR in his only AB with Cleveland in 1984.
But, he had 2 AB with the White Sox that same year.
Franklin lists only the two men above as having 1 HR in 1 AB.
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