HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mln@sunkj.larc.nasa.gov (Michael L Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Va Tech and UVa predictions
Date: 12 Nov 1992 22:32:20 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: usa
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Keywords: 1 more week, 1 more week...

Last Week:

predicted: Va Tech 9 Syracuse 41
actual: Va Tech 9 Syracuse 28

predicted: UVa 20 NCSU 23
actual: UVa 7 NCSU 33  (?)

total:11-5-1

Southern Miss @ Va Tech

Well, USM gave Florida a scare and Va Tech, while they did not
quit against SU, the outcome was never in question.  Will Blacksburg
be welcoming enough to lead the hokies over the golden eagles?
Against my better judgement I think I will say yes.  The last I
heard, DeShazo is still questionable for the game.  If the hokies
do lose this game, it will be one of their patented 4th quarter
chokes.  I think USM is quite good, but I'm too prejudiced to 
pick against Va Tech.

Va Tech 20 USM 15

UVa is idle.

Dick Sheridan finally beat UVa.  Everyone now knows that Goodman/
Welsh/Off. Coordinator were booed last Saturday in C-ville.  Have
the Cavs shut down for the season?  I don't think I've heard much in
the way of bowl interest for UVa (Charlie will correct me if I'm wrong
:-) And they would have to beat Va Tech to qualify.  The question is,
will the lack of bowl motivation fire up the team or hurt them?  What
if a minor bowl rode on beating the hokies?  Will the weekend off hurt
them (as if they had any momentum to lose...) or will it give George 
enough time to fire up the troops?  Will the state-rivalry thing be more
important to UVa now that appears that is all that will be on the line?
The game is in Blacksburg, but Charlottesville did not seem to welcoming
to the Cavs last weekend.

Michael Nelson

Go Hokies!  Go Home-team booing C-ville fair-weather fans!


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From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: Re: Notre Dame vs. Miame was (Re: Open Question to Miami fans)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:38:45 GMT

John B. Slankas writes:


>Just out of curiousity what was the last team to be Miami? (Which I believe
>happened in 1990?)

No, actually two teams have been Miami all season.  One is from the school in 
Coral Gables and the other is in Oxford.  Was this a trick question?

     - Pat


P.S. Were you asking about the Irish vs. the Hurricanes? Or the Black Bears?
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From: jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Subject: Re: Trouble at the UDub
Keywords: trouble...maybe 
Organization: Washington State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 00:33:27 GMT

In article <99==s7B@engin.umich.edu> chyang@ruapehu.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:

  [details of loan, comments on possible booster involvement, refuting
   of booster involvement deleted]

>	The only way for the team to get in trouble is that if 
>Don James arranged for the loan.  He would not do that even if you 
>press a knife to his neck.  


That's not exactly true, is it?  The way I understand it, it isn't
necessary for James to have *arranged* the loan for them to get in trouble;
all that has to have happened is that James or the school *knew* about it
while the season was going on.  Now, apparently Billy Joe spent much of
the money on very visible items/activities: parties, a brand new Camaro,
a $4000 stereo, and I think another ('92) Camaro after he traded in the
previous one (I might be wrong about that).  Anyway, has anyone else
wondered how all of these new purchases went completely unnoticed by the
other players, the coach, maybe even some school officials.  I mean, these
are pretty hefty purchases, and he is probably a pretty well-known and
exposed guy on campus... even if he's not, he is certainly around the 
team and coaches on a daily basis.  Didn't any of them ever question where
he got all of the money to be doing this stuff?   If they did find out,
and didn't say anything, then that might qualify as something the team
could be punished for.  I too hope this doesn't turn into a disaster for
UW, but it does seem that there is potentially a problem.  Anyone else
agree/disagree?

Jim
Go Cougs, Vikings, Northstars!

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From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (odagleD niveK)
Subject: Re: Torretta for the Heisman?
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 17:58:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov09.142148.15310@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.020341.25233@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (odagleD niveK) writes:
>>Um, actually, it wasn't the player's fault. He was told by "Mr. Choke" Bowden
>>to try and make something happen. Of course, the wrong thing happened. Just
>>another screw up by everybody's so-called "saint". Don't go blaming players
>>for the fuck-ups of moronic coaches.
>
>Well, you can easily fault Mr. Bowden for the call, but I don't remember 
>seeing him suited up and dropping the ball.  As I remember, the player 
>fumbled the ball...  Maybe it is just a faulty memory, but even though the
>idea was bad, the execution was worse...

That's not the point. The point was that it was simply a stupid call. The 
field position the kicker was punting from would generally mean that the ball
will go into the endzone (I assume this 'cause they don't have a really great
punter). This would mean that FSU would have the ball at the 20 yard line...
which, by the way, would probably have been their best starting field position
in the whole damn game. From that vantage point their last drive may have
actually had a chance. Instead, they had to take a safety and give the ball to
Miami. It's just a stupid call on the part of the coaches.

>-- 
>David T. Meeks            || "New shadows tugging at the corner of his eye
>VMark Software, Inc.      ||  Jostling for attention as the sunlight flares
>uvmark!davem@merk.com     ||  Through a curtains tear, shuffling its beams
>davem%uvmark@merk.com     ||  As if in nervous anticipation of another day"

Kevin

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From: jeff@tamsun.cs.tamu.edu (Jeff Goldberg)
Subject: Re: Trouble at the UDub
Followup-To: Jeff@cs.tamu.edu
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Texas A&M University
	<1992Nov6.003422.21651@u.washington.edu>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 07:54:58 GMT

>In any case, what Hobert did was *very* stupid, blowing the money on a
>1992 Camaro, guns, golf clubs, partying, and a stereo.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^
 The dumbshit, *I* would have at least gotten a Porshe out of it (and
still had money left for guns, stereo, etc)!

--
From: tweedy8432@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: I-AA: Gateway Conference heating up
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:14:48 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

For those still dying for even more I-AA news:

Gateway Conference Standings     Conf.       Overall
                                 W - L        W - L
----------------------------------------------------
Southwest Missouri State (#11)   4 - 0        6 - 3
Western Illinois  (#19)          4 - 1        7 - 3
Univ. of Northern Iowa  (#4)     3 - 1        8 - 1
Illinois State                   2 - 4        4 - 6
Eastern Illinois                 2 - 4        4 - 6
Indiana State                   1 - 3        3 - 6
Southern Illinois                1 - 4        3 - 7


The final two weeks of the season bring out the classic matchups in the
conference (scheduling couldn't have been done better!).  

11/14/92

Western Illinois  AT   Northern Iowa   
Southwest Missouri St.  vs  Indiana State 

11/21/92

Southwest Missouri St.  AT  Northern Iowa


A win by Western in their final game would make a strong statement to the
playoff selection committee.  They would certainly jump up in the polls,
although having the final week off may hurt them.

Southwest Mizzou must beat the Sycamores of Indiana State (and UNI must defeat
Western) to set up a BIG showdown with Northern Iowa in the UNI-Dome.  These
two teams have played some classic games in the last few years, with the winner
usually taking the conference crown.

Even though their two toughest conference games are ahead of them, UNI will
still have to be given the advantage in the conference race.  Many factors
work in the Panthers' favor:  they're coming off their first loss of the year
and should be pumped up to bounce back strong;  they're returning home to the
UNI-Dome for the first time since their tremendous #1 vs. #2 win over Idaho
and the fans should provide a BIG boost against longtime rivals WIU and SMSU;
that big game against Idaho should prove to be valuable experience for the 
Panthers, while neither Western nor Southwest have played in front of this 
kind of hype all year.  There are many other circumstances of course, but I'm
probably a biased moderator.  Western hasn't beaten the Panthers in three
years, and this is their final hurrah of the 1992 season.  Southwest could
still be thinking about their terribly embarassing loss to UNI at home last
year, 22-0.

However you look at it, the next two weeks in the Gateway could really shake
up the playoff picture! 

Let's hope things remain relatively clear with a pair of UNI wins!!


Chris Tweedy
University of Northern Iowa  -   GO PANTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri Farenell ("Droopy"))
Subject: Re: Is this really true?
Keywords: Bowl game,Pulan Weedeater Bowl
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:06:35 GMT

sas37147@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott A. Splater) writes:

>I've joked about the Toilet Bowl, the Dust Bowl, the Soup Bowl, and
>all of that.  Everyone knows those don't exist.  But is there really
>a Pulan Weedeater Bowl for NCAA Division I teams?  What I have heard
>is that it is in Shreveport, Louisiana, and it is on the 26th of
>December.  Could anyone either verify this, or tell me that it is just
>another joke?  Thanks.

Yep. No joke. It's spelled "Poulan" by the way. I believe it
used to be the Independence Bowl before it sold out. It's not the
only bowl with solely a sponsor's name. There is also the John
Hancock Bowl (formerly the Sun Bowl). There are also many other
(most other) bowls whose name is partly the sponsor's (ie Mobil Cotton
Bowl).
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From: harbison@dbsun.uucp (harbison)
Subject: Re: Bama
Keywords: 13-0
Organization: BioMerieux-Vitek, St. Louis Mo.
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:43:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.175804.9670@en.ecn.purdue.edu>
lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Patrick W Lauson) writes:
> Could somebody PLEASE E-mail me the procedure to include someone's
> login ID in your kill file????

If you are using rn, type Control-K.  That will put you in the editor
to edit the kill file.  Then add a line like
	/pattern/h:j
where pattern is whatever will match something in the header that is
unique to her articles.  /pruett@b15/h:j would probably work.

> She's worse than all the people at UMASS!!! combined!

Please don't form any conclusions about Huntsville or Alabama from this
sample.  It pains me that despite all our efforts, someone like Debbie
comes along and makes us all look like a bunch of "ignorant, inbred
crackers". (as Ross Perot, aka Dana Carvey, would say :-).

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From: ds4@soc2.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: WE WANT MIAMI!!
Keywords: Nebraska best team in the nation again!
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:02:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.101324@mccall.com>, scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis) writes:
|> 
|> In article <skipb.721191476@cwis>, skipb@cwis.unomaha.edu (Skip Burrell) writes:
|> >So I'm rooting for Bama and A&M to get upset so we can play Miami again and
|> >see in a reversal of the 1983 OB game. I now believe we can beat Miami in
|> >Miami. Anyway, I'd like to have the chance to prove it. C'mon Florida and
|> >Texas, help us out! :-)
|> >
|> You're a fool, Skip.  If the OrangeBowl were a neutral site, then
|> having anyone there would be fine.  But that is Miami's homefield.
|> Why not just have the OrangeBowl played in Lincoln?  I still think
|> that all bowls should be played on a neutral field.

What do you plan on doing...pick up the Orange bowl and fly it to Buenos Aires?
You would be sure not to find any home team from there.

|> --
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From: owen@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: Auburn--NCAA comes a callin'
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:12:19 GMT

In article <92315.104311JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu>, <JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> 
> Enjoy the Iron Bowl in TV guys; it's likely to be the last one for
> a while.
> 
Of course, some of us will see it in person, possibly renamed the
Cow Chip Bowl, when it is once again played where God intended it to
be played.

Out of all the possible Dye replacements, please God don't let it
be Danny Ford!  Just what we need -- another tobacco-chewing redneck!

Larry Owen
From: sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu (Susan R. Wagner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Hobert, UW on the ropes.
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:27:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University Libraries - Technical Service, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>KSTW channel 11 (Tacoma, WA) just devoted the first
>14 minutes of their newscast (*not* the sports segment
>but the regular news portion) to the Hobert incident.
>Include was a recap of the loan details ($50,000 from a 
>golfing partner's father living in Post Falls, ID); interviews
>with students on campus, middle-aged Husky fans in a local
>sports bar; and even a 1-900 call-in poll with the question:
>"Do you think it was wrong for Billy Joe Hobert to accept the
>loan?" :-D    They also said that the NCAA has announced the
>beginning of a full investigation of Hobert and the entire
>UW football program.  If anything else is found, look for some
>major-league sanctions.
> 
>Jim
>Go Vikings, Northstars!

I also read that if he is found guilty, they (UW) will most likely have
to forfeit all the games he has played in.  Wouldn't that make them 0 -
however many games he has played in?  Wow! So much for the #1 ranking or
can they still win being technically 0 - whatever, but still won all
their games?

Susan Wagner
Colorado Buffalo fan in Pittsburgh, PA
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From: news@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Subject: Big East Champ?
Organization: The Ohio State University
     Based on the fact that a Big East School doesn't play all of the 
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:11:29 GMT

This article was probably generated by a buggy news reader.
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From: chyang@simile.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: Re: It just can't be....
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 23:37:33 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: chyang@simile.engin.umich.edu


In article <6801@news.duke.edu>, ds4@soc7.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS) writes:
> All of you out there posting that Arizona beat Washington, should stop lieing. 
> The ALL-MIGHTY washington couldn't of lost to (as all washington fans put it
> after the Miami scare) the scrub of the Pac 10.  No way could a team as powerful
> and dominating as Washington (We all know that Washington is the state of
> football...they said so) could of lost to a nothing team, which 'they' so aptly
> put it to discredit Miami.
> 
> -ds4
> 
> Watch what ya say.....it might come back and haunt you.

	I don't think the Husky fans will back down and hide in a corner
because of this loss.  We still love our team despite their poor performance
today.  

	The Huskies lost the game today to a very good team, defensively 
that is.  And the Huskies failed to execute.  There is no question about
that.  Desite their loss, they are still a very good team and they will
still win the PAC-10.  Is there any reason that we should feel ashamed 
because we lost to a team that have been focusing on this game for the
past two or three years.  No!  Should we take back any thing we said on
the net in the course of the season.  No!  The Huskies are still a very 
good team capable of winning many games.  

	BTW, this is a typical PAC-10 season.  You do not find undefeated 
teams often.  The Huskies will go 7-1 in the conference and go to the
Rose Bowl.  That is by no means a bad achievement.

- Chung Yang
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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: 12 Men in Michigan
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 22:58:27 GMT

tsau@cae.wisc.edu (Johne Tsau) writes:
>"The question the truly scientific ask is 'Did God make man,
> or did man make God?'"

No no no.  The real question is ``what is God's record against
top 10 teams, and do you mean top 10 when the game was played
or in the final AP poll?''


--Gidi


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From: plaul@engr.latech.edu (Pummy Laul)
Subject: Re: NEBRASKA
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 06:04:08 GMT


Way to go Cornhuskers.  I did think KU had a chance but the big red machine
just rolled on.    

Good Luck to Nebraska in the Orange Bowl.  And here's hoping they walk all over Miami.      

Go KU  beat Colorado next week.


Pummy Laul
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From: mckinzie@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Mark McKinzie)
Subject: Re: Udub?? What is a "udub"???
Organization: The Cheesehead Academy
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 17:24:41 GMT

swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:

>Ok, we learned what a "t-sip" was a few months ago, what the heck does
>"udub" mean??  I know it is a some sort of Washington put-down, but
>where/how did it originate?

>Just curious.....

I don't know about you, but when *I* see  Subject: UW in the Rose Bowl?
I assume that they're talking about Wisconsin winning the Big Ten.

(BTW, a local radio station was talking this morning about a representative
of the Independance Bowl, who had been talking with the UW staff.  Lord
know why . . . )

-- 
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From: jfc@salmon.macsch.com (Jack Castro)
Subject: Re: Pac-10 expansion rumors
Organization: The MacNeal-Schwendler Corporation (MSC), Los Angeles, CA, USA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 01:40:05 GMT

Have I missed it in the numerous posts on this topic, or has nobody realized
that the reason that the PAC 10 wants UT and CU is for TV revenues. UT would
get the PAC 10 into the largest TV markets in Texas and Colorado. I believe 
I heard that Texas has three of the top 20 TV markets in the USA with
Dallas, Houston and San Antonio.

Because of the way TV generates money for the PAC 10, it is now to their
advantage to get schools from all the major TV markets, so that they can
be ensured of having several PAC10 games televised each week in as many
major TV markets as possible.

By the way, this is the way I heard it from the "Sports Babe" on KJR
radio in Seattle.
-- 
 
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From: dostalik@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Bill Dostalik)
Subject: OU over OSU woof
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:25:40 GMT

Any cowpoke fans out there?  (BTW the O in OSU is Oklahoma, not Ohio)

The last time the pokes beat OU Gerald Ford was president.  This is the best
chance for the aggies since 1988 when Barry Sanders and Mike Gaddis had their
epic battle (both with 210+ yards).  But the Sooners prevailed (barely!) in
that one, and they will prevail (not so barely) in this one.  I have become
convinced ever since that game in '83(?) when OU came back and won with a
successful but *accidental* on-side kick off the helmet of a poke player that
OSU cannot beat Sooner Magic.  Every single close game with the pokes in the
last 15 years has been given to the Sooners seemingly by divine intervention.
(Of course, we've blown them out a few times, too).  

Consider 1990, the players are headed into the lockerroom for halftime, but OSU
coach Pat Jones demands time be put on the clock so OU will kick on 4th down.
Of course, OU didn't kick since there was time for only one play, so Gundy
heaves a Hail Mary to Adrian Cooper for a TD.  The pokes are snake-bit again.

Jones and OSU have done a great job this year, in fact I'm not sure Pat Jones
doesn't deserve Big 8 coach of the year honors over Glen Mason.  Debatable.

Anyway, Sooner Mojo and talent will prevail again.  My best guess:

          OU   27
          OSU  17

And look for at least one big pass play from Steve Collins in his final start
as a Sooner.  He is 12-2 as a starter in 4 years, a better record than either
Switzer or Wilkinson.

    OOOO          Steve Collins for Heisman!
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From: kitchel@manta.dpsi.com (Sidney W. Kitchel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Nebraska beats Colorado
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:49:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: manta.kitchel.721601348
Distribution: usa
Organization: Data Parallel Systems, Inc

"Susan R. Wagner" <sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>rag on.  The game [CU-NU, ed. note] is history!  We can talk again next year.  I'm hoping
>the outcome will be different.  GO BUFFS!

	Yep, your future is all ahead of you. And next year is next
year. Who knows maybe next year's game will be a lot closer -- in
fact, close enough to win in four or five downs.

					     soONEr bred!!!,
						   --Sid


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