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From: chill@walt.UUCP (Curtis Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: UNC-NC State (Curtis really rambles)
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:52:54 GMT



NC State vs North Carolina
Kenan Stadium
Chapel Hill, North Carolina
September 26, 1992



A short review of the game.


1)  Carolina's defense was porous
2)  NC State's wasn't much better
3)  State quarterback Terry Jordan was in a different world
4)  State's line played well.
5)  UNC's Natrone Means is a Pro(tm)


This was an exciting, emotional, back-and-forth game.  Carolina drove
early and scored a field goal.  State took the ensuing kickoff and
did the same.  State drove for a touchdown.  Carolina came back later
and did the same, leaving the score tied 10-10 at the half.


Carolina grabbed the lead 13-10 in the second half.  State came back and
tied the game at 13.  State went up 20-13 after an excellent pass from
Jordan putting State on the 1.  Carolina came right back and scored on
State.


As far as I know, few State fans and fewer Carolina fans thought the final
State drive for a touchdown was in the bag.  I thought the Carolina defense
would finally show up, but poor pass coverage allowed State to march
down the field and score.


The big key to this game, I think, was the Carolina pass defense.  UNC
came in missing 2 starters in the secondardy and a 3rd went down before
halftime.  The pass defense looked like it had for Mack Brown's first 3
years:  play 10 yards off the receiver.  Jordan took advantage of this.
I don't know how much the injuries affected the defensive game plan.  I do
know that Cliff Baskerville was forced to start and has been guilty in the
past of playing 10 yards off the man he's covering, even if the opposition
has first and goal on the one.  He did the same thing Saturday.


Jordan had probably the game of his life.  Jason Stanicek quarterbacked
the entire game for Carolina and did a fine job.


UNC linebacker Tommy Thigpen (another Pro(tm)) put it best.  He said the
offense went out and got the job done, but the defense didn't perform.  He
was right, as I didn't think State could score 27 on Carolina.  If you would
have told me before the game that UNC would score 20, I would have said they
would win.


One of the few things that the Carolina defense did right all day was forcing
3 Wolfpack turnovers inside of the Carolina 30.  The final score could have
been worse.




A great game to watch.



Curtis Hill
star3!walt!chill@mcnc.org
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From: ryan@aladdin.b11.ingr.com (Ryan Waldron)
Subject: Re: Bobby.Bowden.sucks.sucks.sucks
Keywords: the chockemiester, chokarama, the chokinator...
Reply-To: ryan@aladdin.b11.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:46:01 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.190737.25340@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado) writes:
|> championship at FSU. Well, I feel sorry for him...'cause with Bowden at the 
|> helm FSU will _NEVER_ win ans NC. Bowden has got to be the limpest dick of all
|> coaches in division 1A football.

Yes, indeed.  FSU sure used to have an impressive football program
before Bowden arrived to screw everything up.  Whatta shame.

-- 
Ryan Waldron ||| ryan@aladdin.b11.ingr.com ||| ...!uunet!ingr!waldronr

"You read me Shakespeare on the Rolling Thames, That Old River Poet
	 that never, ever ends.
 Our Thumping hearts hold the Ravens in, And keep the tower from tumbling." -KB

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From: tremblay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Marc Tremblay)
Subject: Hail Stanford
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 07:20:44 GMT

Well, well, well. Stanford's finally done it, they've shown they
belong in the big leagues... After a shaky start, the team settled
down and kicked some Irish butt! 33-16! 33 unanswered points! At South
Bend! Wow! The defense is looking REAL good this year and free safety
John Lynch was just amazing today: 1 int in the end zone, 1 caused
fumble, 9 tackles. Not to mention the play of Milburn and Stenstrom...
There are some tough games left, but the Rose Bowl doesn't seem all
that far fetched anymore. If the D can keep it up and the offense
continues to improve as it has been, who knows? The Washington game
isnt't looking like the blowout I thought it was going to be anymore.
But the Cardinal can't look past its next two opponents: The Bruins
and the Wildcats. Arizona, after today's blowout against UCLA, is
really starting to look scary. This is not the team that started the
season... And UCLA, after a game like that, is going to be looking for
respect next week. Hmmm, UCLA, Arizona, Washington, USC, Cal. It'll
take a miracle, but hey, we have GOD leading us... 8-)


===========================================================
| Marc Tremblay                  |  Stanford Cardinal     |
| tremblay@sunrise.stanford.edu  |  1993 Rose Bowl Champs |
===========================================================
From: murphy@rock.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: If Michigan had played to win....
Keywords: Michigan-ND
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:40:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: ryn.1992Oct5.184024.7493
Reply-To: murphy@rock.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Oct5.053200.7842@colorado.edu>, manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu) writes:
|> Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
|> Path: ryn.mro4.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!news.crl.dec.com!deccrl!caen!uunet!boulder!tigger!manu
|> From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
|> Subject: Re: If Michigan had played to win....
|> Message-ID: <1992Oct5.053200.7842@colorado.edu>
|> Keywords: Michigan-ND
|> Sender: news@colorado.edu (The Daily Planet)
|> Nntp-Posting-Host: tigger.cs.colorado.edu
|> Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
|> References: <69968@hydra.gatech.EDU>
|> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 05:32:00 GMT
|> Lines: 10
|> 
|> In article <69968@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:
|> >
|> >it off, maybe not.  After them, I think San Diego State is the only team with
|> >a chance, but I'm not sure.  Anyone out there have Miami's schedule?
|> 
|> Miami plays Syracuse, Boston College and West Virginia... 
|> 
|> >BERNSTEIN,AVRON P
|> 
|> Njan

Flaming back - checking the BC schedule on my desk, I do not see Miami on the
schedule.  Shave your head and put an icepack on it.

Murph
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From: Kevin.T.Buttler.1@nd.edu (Kevin Buttler)
Subject: Re: Purdue-Notre Dame prediction
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: Instructional Technology Lab
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:25:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.231952.18509@news.nd.edu>,
rszczerb@renoir.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba) wrote:


    Alright, Alright....lets puts this one to bed.  I just want you
Purdue engineers to know that I was just yanking your cords.  You have 
a great program at Purdue and should be proud to be a part of it.  
We may be cocky here, but were not stupid! For me to say that ND's 
engineering program is comprable would be ludicrous.
How would I know anyways....I'm not even an engineer.  
		  This started out as joke in the first place guys, sorry if anyone lost
sleep over it.  Boy, you guys really take your engineering program
seriously....chill out fellas, can't you tell a woofer when you see one?

Hugs and kisses,

Kevin  
Go Irish!
From: rice@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (daniel rice)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: picks
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:47:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: hungry-t.9209302347.AA07281
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science

Anyone who is interested, please mail me your picks for the upcoming week.
I am compiling a survey that I will redistribute here in the group.
No I am not running a service for betting, simply seeing how people's
picks stand up to the actual numbers.
I will run this every week if people are interested.
Intelligent replies only please.
Please mail me and dont post them to the group.
Thanks,
        Dan

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From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: What everyone who missed the ND-Stanford game wants to know
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:18:27 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.171302.17686@news.nd.edu> rwood1@puccini.helios.nd.edu (richard wood) writes:
>Go break into your piggy bank and buy yourself a clue!!
>
>Everyone has a bad day.

Yeah, but the great teams still win!!! hint: Miami; NOT ND.

Heard this joke today:
	Rick Mirer(sp?) is a first round pick!

>Rich

Njan
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From: todd@hector.uucp (24102-todd)
Subject: Re: PSU-Miami
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 18:29:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.171644.15954@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes) writes:
>In article <92273.114622JXJ101@psuvm.psu.edu>, John Johnson <JXJ101@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>> I'm not gonna claim a Penn State victory yet, but are there any other Lions
>> out there whose mouths watered when they saw Miami's rushing yardage for their
>> Arizona game?  Also, after last year's start at Penn State, it's nice to see
>> someone else having offensive line problems :)
>
>With the way Boston College has been playing, I just hope the Lions
>aren't looking past Miami to BC:-).
>

I don't think the Lions are looking past anybody this
year.  The Cincinnati 24-20 game did them a world of
good, and too many team members remember the loss to USC last year.  
They realized that they have to take it one game
at a time, and O.J. McDuffie said this week that the team
is preparing for every game "as if it's a national championship
game".  

We'll know what kind of team Miami is after this
Saturday.  It would be nice to play them undefeated on
October 10 (although I'm conflicted because normally I'd
root for Florida State).  
I am somewhat worried about Boston College.
They came close to beating PSU last year, and they've
only gotten better.  Then again, so has Penn State.  A
LOT better, with more depth and speed than most anyone's
seen for a while.  Carolyn Todd

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From: jbc4m@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (John B. Carr)
Subject: Re: Virginia WINS
Reply-To: jbc4m@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (John B. Carr)
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:08:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.122208.17834@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>,
asj4j@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (JonaX) writes:
|> U.Va will be in the top 10 in two weeks...and if Kirby, Slade, and
the
|> offensive line keep it up they'll knock off Florida State.
|> 

	NO, NO, it is just not going to happen.  Why do you think the
game is being played on All Hallows Eve, it is because it is going to
be a very ugly night in C'ville.

	Besides, we will have already lost to Clemson (there am I
doing my job, Rob :)    ).

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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: Aggie Riot (was Re: Best marching band)
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:25:11 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1992Sep28.072150.1@ducvax.auburn.edu> swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:

> In article <Bv9oBr.163@rice.edu>, tomscud@ruf.rice.edu (Thomas Reid Scudder) writes:
>  
> > BTW -- the Stanford band may have gotten booed by a whole crowd, but have they
> > ever managed to be the targets of a riot?  Then again, antagonizing an Aggie
> > crowd on a day when the Aggies lose is a bad idea.  (Of course, the Aggie riot
> > is also ancient history... the MOB hasn't done anything nearly as interesting
> > in ages...)
> 
> Riot?  What riot?  I guess this is an old story that I've missed.  Would
> someone please post the details (Tom?  Goobster??).

  Not them, but I'll do my best.  One year (I don't know when) the MOB came
up to play for the A&M-Rice game (they don't always).  As to the conduct of the
game itself, I have no idea, but according to legend, the MOB formed up in the 
shape of a fire hydrant and played "Oh Where, Oh Where, Has My Little Dog 
Gone?".  The problem with this was that was the year that the Aggie mascot,
Reveille (who is a dog) died.  Given this factoid, it is little wonder that the
mood suddenly turned ugly (and if Rice was indeed winning the football game, 
that would just have made matters worse), as Rev is very well-liked on campus.

  My understanding of things is that the Corps of Cadets surrounded the MOB's
bus, and refused to allow them to leave.  They had to be escorted out by the
police.  There were probably a lot of threats voiced, too, as I was always left
the impression that the MOB was terrified and did not return to play at half-
times for several years following the incident, fearing repitition (which was
also pretty good sense, IMO.  Aggies have long memories.).  So, not quite a 
riot, but I suspect it almost was.

  This is how I heard it.  I've always wanted to know more about it, so if 
anybody who knows it better is out there, I'd like to hear about it, too.


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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From: wang-c@boa.cis.ohio-state.edu (Wang-Chien Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: OSU Football Season tickets
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:24:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: cis.1992Oct5.182434.29169
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science

I have a pair of OSU season tickets for sale. The seats are
located in 9A row 26. If interested, please call 291-4530
or send mail to wang-c@cis.ohio-state.edu




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From: osickey@furnace.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt J. Osickey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Purdue-Notre Dame prediction
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:42:30 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

lillie@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Christopher Lillie) writes:

>In article <Kevin.T.Buttler.1-260992184002@oucfax.cc.nd.edu> Kevin.T.Buttler.1@nd.edu (Kevin Buttler ) writes:
>>
>>Oh Chris,
>>	Really...I haven't meant too many Purdue students (or alum for that
>>matter)
>>that love their school as much as you do.  After standing in the rain
>>for 4 hours today and watching the Irish beat the piss out the boilers,
>>I began to wonder why any one would consider hyping Purdue.
>>				a) your team sucks
>>				b) your campus is a dump
>>				c) and your engineering program is overrated (entirely)
>>
>>Kevin Buttler
>>Instructional Technology Lab
>>University of Notre Dame
>>E-mail:  Kevin.T.Buttler.1@nd.edu

      Before I made the decision to discard my acceptance to ND and
      go to Purdue I made a point to seriously look into which school
      has a better engineering program.  There was no contest.  The 
      practicing engineers I consulted and members of both faculties
      agreed that Purdue has one the best pure engineering programs in
      the nation (far and away better than ND, which incidently has a
      hell of a better campus and football team).  The only two 
      midwest grad programs in engineering which ranked above purdue
      were Michigan and Illinois (though I suspect that Wisconsin will
      soon be joining us).

      At any rate,
         What crawled up your ass, still bitter about the 
      tie with Michigan?  Afraid that the championship will be
      decided in the Rose Bowl (where it ought to be)?

                          azrael
 
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From: rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann)
Subject: Re: Goobers to invade net--run for cover!!!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:51:43 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.225726.28181@u.washington.edu> crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
> To:	Goober Smith
> 	Supreme Dictator for Life
> 	Goober School for the Unkneauxing
> 
> From:	Cliff Slaughterbeck
> 	Vice Dictator for Life in charge of Vice
> 	Goober School for the Unkneauxing
> 
> Re:	Operation Goober
> 
> The operation is well underway.  School starts here this week, and with
> the Huskies being ranked #1 in both the AP and CNN/McPaper polls, we are
> sure to have a horde of freshmen and returning net.goobers posting 
> generally clueless and unkneauxing statements.  General UMASS!!! sort of
> stuff.  I see that you have recently reactivated our supersecret agent
> Avie at NCSt on r.s.b.c, and with the horde of unkneauxingness that shall
> issue from the U-Dub chapter, I am sure that we have gotten well ahead
> of IGK, BWI, and the Cheesehead academy.  JJ's recruitment of Mark had me
> scared for a little while though.
> 
> Cliff (by the way, did I mention that Notre Dame sucks?) Slaughterbeck
> 
> ****************************************************************************
> Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 
> Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Hey Matt!  The diffusion pump is full of
> University of Washington      *   water again!
> Seattle, WA 98195             *
> ****************************************************************************

                                    Hey Matt!  Cliff's head is full of
                                    water again!
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From: clarko@rossini.berkeley.edu (Clark Olson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: wuck fashington!!!
Date: 1 Oct 1992 21:22:36 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: rossini.berkeley.edu

In article <69638@hydra.gatech.EDU> mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
 
>In 1989 Florida was not a very strong team, certainly not indicative
>of the strong FSU and Miami teams of the last decade or even of 
>Florida's 1990 and 1991 teams.
 
>The Gators started off the season pretty well, but midway through
>the season 3 quarterbacks (including the top 2) were suspended and
>the coach (Galen Hall) was fired.  After that Florida dropped 
>3 of its last 4 games and finished tied for 4th in the SEC.  
>Washington, on the other hand, finished tied for 2nd in the PAC-10.
>In fact, Florida was not even supposed to go bowling, but Indiana
>was upset by Purdue in the last week of the season.
 
>The margin of victory for Washington was very impressive (34-7) -
>the largest margin for a Florida loss that season.
 
>IMNSHO, anyone who suggests that Miami/FSU would have blown
>Washington away last year or that Washington would have blown 
>FSU/Miami away is a fool.  All 3 were very strong teams
>and it's extremely doubtful either side could have dominated 
>the other.  (BTW, I would have voted Washington #1, but that 
>was practically a coin toss.)
 
>Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu



Sorry, wrong season Mark.  I think you would have voted Washington #1
after the 1990 season when they were 10-2 and beat Iowa in the Rose Bowl
not the 1989 season when they were 8-4 and beat Florida in the Freedom Bowl.

That was also not Washington's strongest team.  Both contestants were 7-4
entering the game, rendering the result virtually moot when discussing top
caliber teams.

Clark Olson
clarko@robotics.berkeley.edu









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From: jay@puppsr.Princeton.EDU (Jay Shrauner)
Subject: Re: FREE NOTRE DAME TICKETS AVAILABLE!!!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 00:32:20 GMT

In article <Marc.A.Echeveste.1-011092091230@129.74.199.128> Marc.A.Echeveste.1@nd.edu (Marc Echeveste) writes:
>
>Notre Dame 35
>Stanford 7
>
>Irish, Suns rule!

Actual score:  Stanford 33, ND 16.  Don't feel too bad, the nation's #1
offence met the nations #2 defence, and we discovered which was better.
Just goes to show how little those rankings mean this early in the season,
although I think Stanford reaffirmed their defensive ranking.   ND, on
the other hand, has a few things to think about...like laterals on the
5 yard line!

Jay Shrauner
Go Cardinal!!
From: reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu (Alireza Vali)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: CNN/USA Today Poll for 10/4/92
Date: 5 Oct 92 03:52:50 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Center for Space Research Imaging Lab, University of Texas at Austin

First, let me list the results of the CNN/USA Today poll of Oct. 4:

 1) Washington (38)	4-0
 2) Miami (22)		4-0
 3) Michigan		3-0-1
 4) Texas A&M		5-0
 5) Penn State		5-0
 6) Tennessee		5-0
 7) Alabama		5-0
 8) Florida State	4-1
 9) Colorado		5-0
10) Virginia		5-0
11) Nebraska		3-1
12) Stanford		4-1
13) Georgia		4-1
14) Notre Dame		3-1-1
15) Syracuse		3-1
16) Oklahoma		3-1
17) Georgia Tech	3-1
18) UCLA		3-1
19) Mississippi State	3-1
20) Ohio State		3-1
21) Boston College	4-0-1
22) Clemson		2-2
23) California		3-1
24) Florida		1-2
25) West Virginia	3-0-2

Ok, now for my $0.02...
Washington lost some first place votes, and deservedly so.  I've been a
Husky fan since 1977, so I'm not woofing for any other team.  Let's face it,
the offense needs work.  The defense can't pull it off every week.  This
year's defense is great, but it still gives up the big play.  Last year
they could afford this because the offense could score 50+ points on any
given day, but that seems unlikely this year (execpt maybe vs. Pacific :)
It has been said that they have a cream puff schedule this year, but they
have California (3-1, 23rd), Stanford (4-1, 12th) at home, and Arizona
and Washington State (4-0? 5-0?) on the road.  With the offense as it is,
I can't see them coming out 4-0 out of these games.

Now, for the Miami-FSU showdown, it was a messy game.  Miami is catching
a lot of flack because they barely won their last two, but a win is a win
is a win.  End of story.  I think they've earned their ranking, and should
stay there unless and until they get knocked off.  If they keep playing
like their past 2 games, it may very well happened.  The Penn State game
will be a defining game for the Hurricanes.

As for the rest of the top 10, it's simply amazing that 9 of the top 10
teams are undefeated!!!  Of these, I think right now Michigan, Penn State,
and Tennessee are the most impressive so far.

The thing that bugs me the most is to see Clemson (2-2) and Florida (1-2)
still in the poll when you have three undefeated teams (Hawaii, Kansas
State, and Washington State).  
-- 
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