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From: kpapai@rahul.net (Ken Papai)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Coppola's DRACULA
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:09:48 GMT
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jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.144844.16689@Princeton.EDU>  
>egnilges@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Edward G. Nilges) writes:
>> I KNOW that I don't love the smell of napalm in the morning, and to  
>me
>> it's not the smell of victory.  Coppola needs to grow up.
>> 
>Are you confusing the point of view of a character in the movie
>with that of the writer/director?  The character was obviously
>portrayed as a buffoon for saying things like that.

Obviously he was not acting as a buffoon, but rather a gung-ho
military officer showing no fear of the beach bombardment.  That
doesn't mean he's a buffoon IMHO!
 
-- 
Ken Papai <kpapai@rahul.net>
From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: x can't make money
Date: 6 Jan 93 03:02:51 GMT
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In article <1993Jan5.1489.35978@channel1> "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com> writes:

>There's another reason why MALCOLM X isn't a blockbuster, and that
>reason has nothing to do with racism:

What about releasing it in December. This is 'Home Alone' season, not
serious movie time (speaking from a marketing point of view). I wonder
how 'Malcolm X' would have done if released during the long hot summer.
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From: "allan jenoff" <allan.jenoff@canrem.com>
Subject: reservoir dogs (spoilers)
Reply-To: "allan jenoff" <allan.jenoff@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
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Date: 5 Jan 93 14:45:12 EST

RC> Why did Keitel's character protect the undercover cop so much, like
at 
RC> the very end?? Did he just like him? 
RC> 
 
Keitel's character had become friends with the undercover cop earlier. 
Remember Keitel admits to Mr. Pink that he had talked to the man and  
told him where he was from.  The cop had also mentioned his growing  
friendship to his boss who reprimanded him about it.  Further, Keitel  
felt responsible for the injury since they had been together when it  
happened.  At one point Keitel says that the cop (I am not sure of his 
colour anymore) took a bullet for him.  Clearly he has a strong sense  
of responsibility.  I guess there is loyalty among thieves. 
 
RC> I read in Film Threat magazine that the title does not mean
anything. 
RC> Does anyone know if the title might mean something? 
RC> 
 
When Keitel argues with Mr. Blond, Mr. Blond says something like "bark 
little doggy".  I can't remember the exact words but it really  
outraged Keitel.  I think the title suggests that the characters are  
like a pack of wild dogs, dangerous both to others and themselves. 
 
Of the hundred or so movies I saw last year this was definitely the  
best.  It was a terrific combination of action and satire.  The  
opening sequence in the restaurant where they discuss Madonna and  
tipping is sure to become a film legend.  I haven't seen an opening  
that good since Touch of Evil.
From: dkumasaw@oracle.uucp (Darren Kumasawa)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Apocalypse Now (was Re: Coppola's DRACULA)
Date: 9 Jan 93 01:34:22 GMT
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In article <geturner.726507147@aer.com> geturner@aer.com. (George Turner) writes:
>
>>|> This movie popularized a scene of an American air attack
> 
>I don't think "popularized" is an especially apt description!
>
>>|> and set it to the music of Wagner; one would suppose that the North
>>|> Vietnamese, subject to Nixon's "mad bomber" attacks of Christmas 1972,
>>|> would be less amused.  It could never decide, as a movie, whether it
>>|> opposed the war in Vietnam or supported it as a crusade against "the
>>|> horror!"  As such, it is disjointed.
>>|> 
>
>Apocalypse Now is about the depths of the evil in men's minds.  If you 

Yes!  Apocalypse now should be directly compared to Conrad's novel, Heart of
Darkness!  Both the movie and the story are about the "deaths of the evil
in men's minds".  Apocalype Now was not intended to glorify war.

Darren
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From: karty@cs.washington.edu (Richard Karty)
Subject: Which Bunuel movie is this?
Keywords: bunuel
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 00:13:18 GMT

I'm trying to find the name of a Bunuel movie a friend told me about.
He didn't remember the title.

Here's what he said:

It takes place in an beautiful ornate Victorian hotel or rooming house
in Mexico, in which all the residents suddenly died 100 years ago, and
the hotel has remained sealed with the corpses still in there ever
since. (Until the time of the movie, that is.)

A few other clues:

it's in black and white.

from his Mexican period.

probably not a comedy.

may not be available on video?

Please e-mail me as I don't often get the chance to read to
Newsgroups. Thanks much!

Richard

P.S. I make no claims about the accuracy of the description. This is
second-hand information.
From: ee89tmp%ee.surrey.ac.uk (Martin)
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Subject: Videos on PAL not avail. in UK
Date: 6 Jan 93 16:37:47 GMT
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A friend of mine is trying to get hold of the following films on video:
(must be in PAL format)

	Clockwork Orange (banned in UK)

	Streets of Fire (starring Michael Pare, Rick Moranis, Diane Lane
			 soundtrack by Jim Steinman - deleted in the UK)


Can anyone tell me in what countries these films are available?

Thanks a lot,
Martin
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From: spencer@der.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun)
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS !
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: spencer@phoenix.princeton.edu (S. Spencer Sun)
Organization: Society for Promotion of Entropy in the Universe (SPEU)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:07:16 GMT

People have been wildly misreading my comment, perhaps due to it being
quoted out of context or something.  Allow me to clarify:

In article <1is3mrINNlgp@transfer.stratus.com>, jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com writes:
>In article <1993Jan9.002920.19735@Princeton.EDU>  
>spencer@der.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun) writes:
>> In article <1993Jan8.185440.17860@spectra.com>, johnson@spectra.com  
>(boyd johnson) writes:
>> Maybe where YOU go the movies.  I have worked at five movie theaters in
>> the Baltimore area, worked at one up here in Jersey, and seen movies at
>> a sixth one in Balto. on a regular basis.  There are always some people
>> who stay through the whole credits.  Enough to get in the way.  And then
>> they bitch that you disturbed them while they were trying to see who the
>> key grip's best boy's assistant was.
>
>Gee, and I thought when I paid for the movie, I was allowed
>to see the whole thing, down to the end of the last real.  Now
>I know I'm just getting in the way.  Maybe you should just
>start cleaning the theatre with ten minutes to go in the movie,
>and let those folks who just get in the way wait for it
>to come out on video tape.
>
>Seriously, I can see what you problem is. The solution is:
>a) don't take that attitude to your patrons (that is, that
>they get in the way) and b) ask your cleaning staff to
>realize that those folks still in the theatre are there because
>they want to read what's on the screen; thus, the cleaning staff
>shouldn't stand right in front of them while they
>are cleaning.

1. Most people don't seem to be reading this entire thread, or have very
short memory spans.  I have said that I myself like reading the credits.

2. I said the above because someone asked something to the effect of
"Why don't you start cleaning during the credits to buy some extra
time?"  The above was my response, and it was partly tongue-in-cheek,
but it's also true.  Some people get annoyed because they say you're
bothering them.  They probably have a point.

3. Said people will complain even if you dash across the row of seats to
grab stuff and then try and get out of their way again, so it's not a
matter of standing right in front of them for long periods of time (you
don't really think we're THAT stupid, do you?  Don't answer that :-) )

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From: conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad)
Subject: Re: How to Succeed in Business...
Organization: University of Delaware
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:32:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.002225.12158@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mritchie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie) writes:

>I saw the movie in its original release many moons ago and the
>Coffee break number *was* in the movie then, but it is not in the
>video version.  In fact, the background photo-illustration on
>the video box is from that number.  I vividly remember it and its
>also on the soundtrack album.  Perhaps it was cut after the
>original run of the film.  Does anyone have any information on this?

I saw the movie very early in its initial run, though not in one of the
big cities where it probably played first ("gradual" release was
prevalent in those days).  The "Coffee Break" number was not in it,
though the entire scene leading up to it was.  So I would surmise that
either your memory is misleading you a bit on this, or it was cut from
the film almost immediately after the premiere engagement (a very rare
occurrence, especially in a movie that otherwise is not unusually long).
The number is, as you say, included in the soundtrack album and was
obviously filmed but omitted.

>>>3. Michele Lee, the female lead, looked awfully familiar.  I have this
>>>   funny feeling she was on some 60's TV show.  Was she?  What else has she
>>>   done?

>>I think she's in Knot's Landing or some such prime time soap.

She's been on Knots Landing forever.  Check it out any Thursday night.

>>She played opposite Dean Jones in "The Love Bug".

>She was also in a 60s TV show called That's Life--sort of a
>mini-musical each week--and I *think* Morse appeared in it with
>her!

You've remembered it backwards.  Robert Morse and EJ Peaker (otherwise
best remembered as Minnie Fay in the movie of Hello Dolly) were the
costars of the 1969-70 tv series That's Life.  This was unique as an
ongoing story of courtship and marriage, told as a musical each week
(some old songs, some new).  Michele Lee wasn't a regular, though she
may well have appeared as a guest star some week or other.

Jon Alan Conrad
From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: x can't make money
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 20:59:18 GMT

In article <1ihmlfINNcdn@titan.ucc.umass.edu> a0s5108@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Neal and Mara Priestly) writes:
>>> jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann) writes:
>>> 
>>> >Your reasoning sounds good. However, remember that several of
>>> >the biggest blockbusters in history were long movies: Gone
>>> >with the Wind, Ben Hur, The Ten Commandments, Lawrence of Arabia.
>>> >There are others. All of these films are longer than 3 hours, and
>>> >all made tons of money.
>
>And were released either before television, or before television was a 
>'one in every room' appliance at the very least.

I think this may be somewhat overstated.  By the early 1960's, all but
the poorest Americans had a TV available, if they wanted to watch it.
Since then, there have been several very successful long films - "The
Sound of Music", "Dr. Zhivago", "2001: A Space Odessey", "JFK",
and "Dances With Wolves" come to mind.  On the other hand, before 
television was widely available, how many very long successful films 
were there (discounting the silent era)?  "Gone With the Wind" is just
about all.  Hollywood in the Golden Age didn't tend to make many very
long films.  Other than "Gone With the Wind", I can only think of a 
couple of other major American studio films of the 1930's and 1940's
that were over 3 hours long.  There aren't many in the 2 1/2 to 3 hour
range, either.  

The really long American films were made mostly in the 1950's and 1960's,
as a purposeful alternative to small, short television shows.  This was
the era of "The Greatest Show On Earth", "Spartacus", "El Cid", "Star",
"The Fall of the Roman Empire", and innumerable other lengthy films.
By the 70's, this strategy had been recognized as not forumlaically
successful, though a good number of the long films had been individually
successful.  I suspect that the occasional tries at long, epic films
since then have been largely unsuccessful more for their own reasons
than for simple issues of length.  "Heaven's Gate", "Once Upon a Time
In America", "Reds", and "1900" were all unlikely to be commercial
smashes at any length, and probably wouldn't have made much more
money if they'd been conceived and shot as 2 hour films.

-- 
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		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

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From: zarthac@bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons)
Subject: Re: Review:  SCENT OF A WOMAN
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 08:40:25 GMT
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Greg Bole (bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu) wrote:
: In article <4556@cvbnetPrime.COM>, csroc@cvbnet.prime.com (cvbnet) writes:

: >> SCENT OF A WOMAN

: > I saw some reviews which seemed to think this movie
: > was too long...NOT
: I would say it was too long as well.
:  
: > It holds your interest from start to finish despite a
: > theme that's been told many times before.
: It held my interest for the first half, then started to drag, and THEN...
:  
: > Pacino gives the performance of a lifetime!!!
: Which was absolutely spoiled for me by the HORRIBLY stupid "happy Hollywood"
: ending.  It was literally the dumbest ending of any movie I have ever, made
: all the more dissapointing because the movie had some real promise in the 
: beginning.
But was it quite as bad as the ending from Far and Away?

: My advice is stay far, far away from this dog if you get as mad at stupid, 
: contrived, tied-up-in-a-neat-package endings as I do.

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From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Subject: Re: Leningrad Cowboys Go America
Keywords: strange
Organization: Exile Government of Bramming
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 18:22:21 GMT

jpehko@cs.joensuu.fi (Juha Pehkonen) writes:

>reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:

>>one of his weird films.  Another of his films, "The Match Factory
>>Girl", was runner up as best foreign language film in a couple of recent
>>U.S. critics polls.  It's a much more naturalistic story of a very plain
>>working girl who gets pregnant by a slightly glamorous guy who turns out
>>to be a turd.  (I personally thought it was a depressing bore.)

>I'm sure a lot of people agree with you on that. "The Match Factory Girl"
>is probably his worst movie (IMO) so I'm surprised to hear it even got
>nominated.

I found it an excellent piece of tragedy - made almost without the use
of words (the first line falls after ~15 minutes, which is a long time
for a 68 minute film).

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From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: x can't make money
Date: 10 Jan 93 16:01:19 EST
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PR>In contrast, almost no big serious films opened during the past summer,
PR>and that was also intentional.  "The Last of the Mohicans" was probably
PR>the closest to a big serious film, and it was packed with action sequences.

Don't forget UNFORGIVEN.
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From: barrus@cod.nosc.mil
Subject: Re: The Weird List (name that movie?)
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:51:02 GMT


In article <1993Jan7.153312.14689@b8.b8.ingr.com> usenet@b8.b8.ingr.com (Usenet Account) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.040457.6054@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>, ukrainec@nimios.eng.mcmaster.ca (Andrew Ukrainec) writes:
>|> >The list of weird, eccentric and original movies (more or less) has
>|> >swelled to more than a hundred.  If you know of any that belong there,
>|> >please post. 

Another one that I thoroughly enjoyed starred Keith Gordon, 
who I believe also directed and may have written the film.
I think it was called "Static".  Can someone help me out here?
It was about a young lad who lives out in a Southwestern town
and believes he has been able to make his television set tune 
into heaven.  He then tries to convince the rest of the town
and ends up hijacking a bus full of senior citizens to try to
get people to believe him.  Great film.

JDB
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: peeves at movie theat
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:19:02 EST
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JWP>Something that happened twice last year to my irritation was having cleaning
JWP>lights switched on while I was sitting watching the end credits.
JWP>What made it more worrying was that both times it was at (different)
JWP>venues run by Odeon, a main exhibitor here to whom one looks to set
JWP>presentation standards.

Many projectionists set their projectors to turn on and off with a
timer, because they're not actually there to do it in person.  (Other
movies may be ending at the same time, and you just can't be in two
places at once.)  Unfortunately, the timer may be off by a minute or
more, and this causes the shutoff during the final credits.
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From: Jason_Mulligan@camelot.apana.org.au (Jason Mulligan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Test
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From: ray.horton@tfd.coplex.com (Ray Horton) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Twenty I Liked
Date: 6 Jan 93 23:35:00 GMT
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Reply-To: ray.horton@tfd.coplex.com (Ray Horton) 

Bob Campbell:
Great list!  I enjoyed reading it!  A few of my all time favorites:

Airplane
Coal Miner's Daughter
A Christmas Story

To answer your question:

CL>REAR WINDOW (1954)
CL>    ... a musician played by someone named Ross Bagdasarian.
CL>    Is this the same guy who later changed his name to David
CL>    Seville and invented the Chipmunks?  Hmmmm.

YES!
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From: WDENNEN@CCVM.sunysb.edu (Bill Dennen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Al Pacino for Best Actor (Scent of a Woman)
Date: 11 Jan 1993 12:46:26 -0600
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He certainly gets my vote (although, my votes does not count for much).
The movie was great - one of the best I've seen in a loooong time (and, yes,
I'm a movie freak and go to the movies often).

Pacino should get best actor!

Any other comments?

Bill
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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Re: It's a Wonderful Life (Movies In the Public Domain)
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: The Bates Motel
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:17:39 GMT

mlh@eddy.austin.ibm.com (Mike Haskell) writes:
> ... but one broadcast of IAWL was "colorized", so I new when
>I was on Ted's channel...

Hmmm, that's funny ... I caught the Sunday (20th) evening and Xmas Eve
overnight showings on TNT and they were B&W ...  maybe this was the
Xmas Eve prime-time showing that you caught?  The only colourized
versions of IAWL that I had come across was on a broadcast station in
our area, WPIX (a satellite station), and on Lifetime (cable) during
Xmas day.  (USA and CBS ran the B&W versions on the 24th, too, but bad
prints; Turner's on TNT was really crisp.)

gld
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From: tdavis@cse.unl.edu (Todd Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Even MORE Weird movies
Date: 11 Jan 1993 09:24:52 GMT
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A couple of more weird films worth watching if you haven't seen 'em...
 
Forbidden Zone-
Danny Elfman's brother Richard had a big hand in this one... see Herve 
Villacheze (sp) getting it on with oversized Queen Doris... and music
by The Mystic Knights of the Oingo Boingo (who are they trying to fool?) :)
 
Prospero's Books-
Peter Greenaway's latest (as far as I know) and unless you have the program
from the theatrical runs (they handed them out so the audience wouldn't be
_completely_ lost) or a good working knowledge of Shakespeare's _The Tempest_
you too may find yourself totally absorbed in its beautiful imagery, and also
_completely_ lost.  Where else could a stream of urine become a storm?

Addendum:
David Lynch has a film coming on one of the pay channels this month called
_Hotel Room_... anybody want to wager on it's chances of making the weird
list?
 
tdavis@cse.unl.edu