From: deek@pecan.cns.udel.edu (michael deerkoski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: specifically comparing NeXT with Mac...
Date: 12 Nov 92 04:32:41 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark

In article <199211112223.AA01808@hobbes.cuc.ab.ca> rob@hobbes.cuc.ab.CA (Rob Parkhill) writes:
>>>These are the latest (Canadian) edu prices for both systems:
>> * With prices available at UCD to me to the left *
>					      ^^^^ to the right, actually
>					(Just to clear things up a bit)
>> * Mail order (MO) prices used when appropriate   *
>>>Quadra 950, 8MB RAM, No HD, 1 floppy drive      $6 514 -UCD-> $5 153
>>>Keyboard                                        $  233 -UCD-> $  159
>>>Monitor and VRAM (your prices -> Canadian)      $1 300 -UCD-> $1 300
>>>(Also: Isn't it necessary to add a display
>>>card to get 24bit colour for a Quadra?        No. VRAM is all you need.
>						^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^					
>My price list is wrong then. I'll have to mention that to the MicroStore
>
>>>200MB Hard Drive                                $  500 -MO--> $  500
>>>Total                                           $8 547 -TOT-> $7 112
>>
>>
>>>NeXTstation Turbo Color                         $5 870 -UCD-> $5 266
>>>w/ 16MB RAM, 250 MB Hard Drive
>>>(Comes with keyboard and mouse) (Not at UCD)           -UCD-> $  179
>>>17" NeXT Colour Monitor                         $1 930 -UCD-> $1 825
>>>Total with 17" Monitor                          $6 670 -UCD-> $7 260
>
>Gee.. thanks for hacking up my post and taking it out of context! Try 
>
>reading it a little more carefully and you'll see that the price you've
>listed for the Mac is for with 17" monitor that was quoted in the previous post  
>at $1100 with 16Meg of RAM.  So.. using US dollars.. that monitor is about 
>
>$650 so... the NeXTstation Turbo Color with THAT monitor price 
>
>for UCD should read
>NeXTstation Turbo Color		-UCD-> $6095
>Well well well.. the NeXT is cheaper when this price is used (why should 
>
>use the NeXT monitor price when the Apple monitor price isn' used?)
>Or, if you want to be fair.. the Apple 16" Monitor goes for $1 144 (US)
>making the Mac --->  	$7 406
>And the NeXT price for the 17" Monitor(Sony Trinitron) is $1 825
>making the NeXT---> 	$7 260
>Let me grab my calculator.. yup.. those are right.. and the NeXT is still
>ahead. And ALL prices are in US dollars now...
>
>>
>>Note that now the prices are closer - but here is what may be a
>>more fair Mac to compare with:
>>Quadra 700, 4MB Ram, No HD                       $3 327
>>Add 4MB Ram, 1.5MB VRAM                          $  400
>>Keyboard                                         $  159
>>Add 120MB Hard Drive                             $  399
>>Apple 16" Color Monitor                          $1 144
>>Total:                                           $5 429
>
>Gee.. at that price for RAM.. the monitor price used above
>would drop to about $150.. but like I said before... that
>price is very hard to believe.. and I would like to know
>where I can get a 17" colour monitor and 16Meg of RAM for
>$1100!
>
>>
>>Why only a 700, which runs at 25Mhz not 33? And why only the
>>120 MB hard drive?
>>Simple. The NeXT requires more resources to do all it does.
>>Compare a 700 and a NSTC. The 700 appears & responds just as fast.
>>NeXT advocates will respond that the NeXT is doing what it does
>>via Display Postscript. True. Can't be argued. What can be
>>argued is the usefulness: Unless you do DTP, display postscript
>>is nice, but not much more than that.
>
>Well.. how about adding in $3000 for a PostScript Level 2 laser
>printer to the Mac.. but $1400 for the NeXT.. but I won't...

Apple's Personal Writer NTR with PostScript level 2 and a AMD Am29005 RISC
processor costs $1989 RETAIL.  You can purchase it via edu
prices for considerably less.
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