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From: shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Possible Foundation movie?
Date: 29 Aug 92 19:07:18 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: Boston University Chemistry Department

In article <gFo9PB12w165w@jybox.jyu.fi> otto@jybox.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
writes:

>What about Heinlein's THE MOON IS A HARSH MISTRESS ?
 
Definitely! I really liked the book.

>> I would rather not see "The Forever War". I didn't like the book at all,
>>sort of like a black-and-white leftist answer to Heinlein's "Starship
>>Troopers".  

>I really liked it.  I didn't think it was very leftist (well, over here we
>all look like goddam-pinko-commies, compared to the average american :-)
>but all and all I thought it made a lot more sense than "Starship Troopers".

What I didn't like about the book was that it was too much an allegory of the
Vietnam War and also very predictable - of course the humans are the bad
paranoid guys who blast the poor-Uni-Mind aliens the first chance they get.
Moreover, Haldeman DID really intend the book to be an answer to Starship
Troopers. 
But to give credit where credit is due, the training and combat scenes were
described masterfully. It is just the overall concept of the book that I
disagre with.

>The comic book isn't bad, either.

Well, it was drawn better than the usual DC/Marvel superhero fare, but the
artwork still left much to be desired.

>> Now a REAL version of "Starship Troopers" is another story.

>What I'd like to see is the parody of "Starship Troopers", "Bil the Galactic
>Hero" (two L's is for officers)!  And the way they've been cranking out those
>continuation books, we may still see it.

Perhaps someone would do an animated version sometimes. This book is better
suited for animation, anyway (IMHO!!! IMHO!!!).

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From: k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (ce)
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Organization: Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH, Hamburg
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 10:01:06 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.051252.15053@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.041301.9425@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> sboiarsk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sean L Boiarski) writes:

[...]
>
>I never said that I didn't enjoy it. I enjoyed "HL II", to get down to it.
>I just didn't think Zardoz was any good. The role was written for Burt Reynolds,
>and Sean doesn't do that good an impersonation of him, although without his
>toupee, there was a bit of resemblance. I laughesd for days about this one.
>He is the mightiest warrior of his tribe, and all the Techno-Women want   
>what he hides under his loincloth. It was obviously not made to be taken too
>seriously. Your comment about an Acid trip is right on: I think it was made to
>be a head film, and screw any plot/acting/scripting/etc... that would get in
>the way of trippy effects. fun, but not good.
>

How can anyone dislike a movie that has dialogue like, "The Gun is Good!
The Penis is Evil! Go Forth and Kill!!!"? 

Actually all of Boorman's films have pretty cheesy dialogue and acting, but
brilliant cinematography. The sole exception, IMO, was "Hope and Glory" which
was wonderful in all respects. When I first saw Excalibur I thought it had
been dubbed from Italian! Some great scenery-chewing in that film as well.
Everyone had that clipped, rapid speech that you hear in Japanese cartoons.
Arthur kept reminding me of Speed Racer..."Zero! Chim-chim! What are you
doing in the trunk?!!! Ahhhhhhhhh!!!!!

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From: a481@mindlink.bc.ca (J.D. Frazer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best shots wanted
Date: 23 Aug 92 18:19:16 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

That's easy. I was never so moved than when I saw the opening sequence for
_Terminator 2_. The playground-inferno scene backed by that haunting score was,
IMO, brilliantly executed. Gave me shivers -- remember the burning horses and
the merry-go-round? God.

I suppose just for the sake of completeness I have to include the the
metamorphing rose animation sequence in _The Wall_. Had me mesmerized.

--
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From: tene@julia.jyu.fi (Jari Toivanen)
Subject: Re: Films with no females
Originator: tene@julia.jyu.fi
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 11:54:03 GMT

frank@cash.isri.unlv.edu (Frank Jenkins) writes:
> The Enemy Below...Robert Mitchum and Curt Jurgens.
> The Treasure of Sierra Madre...Bogie and Walter Brennan

Walter Brennan is not acting in The Treasure of Sierra Madre
according my memory and the dead actors/actresses list.
The dead list says that actors and actresses are Humphrey Bogart,
John Huston, Walter Huston and Ann Sheridan. So there is actress
at least in supporting role.
--
Jari Toivanen  (toivanen@jyu.fi)            Memories are lost in time
University of Jyvaskyla, Finland            like tears in rain.
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From: ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon)
Subject: Re: Most ridiculous sex scene (in a movie - not real life)
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 13:20:07 GMT


Although this post is a confession that I actually saw this stupid movie,
(on video, though!!) how about HOWARD THE DUCK??


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From: k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (ce)
Subject: Re: What are those Negroes doing with guns?
Organization: Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH, Hamburg
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 07:27:01 GMT

>In article <1992Sep2.113813.744@calmasd.prime.com> wwr@calmasd.prime.com writes:
>
>Yeah, I rambled.  Got a burr up my butt & couldn't dig it out.  Got bored,
>whatever... go ahead - toast me.  I got my undies all set to slip on.
>
>walter
>
You are truly the biggest Masochist that has ever graced the Net, Walter.
I am down on my knees worshipping your toastiness..:)

Next time drink a cup of coffee and eat a doughnut *before* you log-on!

But Seriously, without getting into specifically agreeing or disagreeing
with your cleansing rant (my flame-proof undies are still at the cleaners)
I can state that IMHO, Spike Lee has absolutely the most colossal ego in
Hollywood. He is so chock-full of bloated self-importance that he and
Ollie Stone can't fit into the same room because their swollen
heads keep knocking together. His latest statements regarding Malcolm X
are unbelievably inflammatory. He seems to really believe that he is
some sort of divine dispenser of "truth" to the poor unenlightened masses.

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From: funga@ecf.toronto.edu (FUNG Alexander Yok-Wai)
Subject: Re: Aliens 3 and stuff
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 05:01:11 GMT

In article <gyq9PB14w165w@jybox.jyu.fi> otto@jybox.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) writes:
><U38956@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>> The thing that got me the most is that in the future year of 2470 or whatever
>> year it was, we have all this high technology--so high we can travel through
>> the voids of space and hypersleep, etc--yet we are still SO DUMB that
>> we still where glasses (you'd think someone could've found a REAL corrective
>> measure for this age-old problem) AND we still use the friggin' english
>> system of measurement rather than SI!  (At the end, they say that they would
>> pour so many TONS of liquid metal on the alien).
>
>Ha!  The "ton" is 1000kg=1Mg in SI countries.  Makes perfect sense, is even
>pretty close to the peculiar US usage of "ton".
>
Actually, you're referring to a 'tonne' (SI). Close enough.... :)


-- 
Alex (funga@ecf.toronto.edu)
From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: "The Age of Innocence" Delayed (was: Dracula)
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:52:51 GMT
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

In article <1992Aug26.203255.1@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu> bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
>In article <iqk5PB4w164w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>, sasha.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu 
>
>> In a fitting touch of irony however, Lewis and Ryder will be working 
>> together in some other movie.
>I believe this is Scorcese's _The Age of Innocence_.

Yes, it is.  It was announced yesterday that "The Age of Innocence" will
not open this Christmas, after all.  The announced reason was that
Scorsese needed to spend more time on postproduction.

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
From: conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Least men in movie!
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:03:47 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <1992Aug28.122814.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu> rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:

>In article <1992Aug28.152758.11246@ifi.unizh.ch>, hafner@ifi.unizh.ch (Michel Hafner) writes:

>> Which movie has the least men in the cast?

>> "The Women" by George Cukor: Zero! 

>there are others... 

There may be, but not...

The Trojan Women, I believe has zero men...

Nope.  A whole Greek army, and several speaking roles for men (including
Brian Blessed), and a boy.

But THE WOMEN is undoubtedly the classic example, as it has a VERY large
cast, doesn't happen in a "sealed" environment (it ranges from New York
streets to Reno), and not one man appears onscreen.

Jon Alan Conrad
From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Film with the fe/malest cast
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:36:15 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
Originator: gharris@jade.tufts.edu

In article <0ed3UOm00ioD83D0oL@andrew.cmu.edu> ab4n+@andrew.cmu.edu (Anish Bharat Bhimani) writes:
>Films with few or no women:
>
>Dr. Strangelove - I don't recall any women at all

	Come on!  The first character to appear is a woman ( Gen. Turgidson's
secretary)!

>- Anish
--
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George W. Harris                chance in the world, and stomped ever one 
Dept. of Mathematics            of them chances down in the dirt like a 
Tufts University                bug."   _The Devil's Dream_
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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: violence in movies
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 04:51:22 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete
Keywords: sex, violence

bew@brahms.udel.edu (Ben Williams) writes:

> This topic never fails to bring out the lamest excuses for film violence.

As if it needs "excuses".

You're more than welcome to decide for yourself what level of violence
you're uncomfortable with in a movie, and I'm sorry that there aren't many
films made anymore that you feel you can enjoy.  But please don't allow
yourself the mistaken impression that what the rest of us enjoy is any of
your business.  

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
From: le01167@portal.lasc.lockheed.com (Ron Nadel (x2025))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Jurassic Park castings ??
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:20:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lockheed Aeronautical Systems Co. - Rye Canyon
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep3.150604.1@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu>, bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes...

> john hammond - sir richard attenborough
>His return to acting after 15 years *behind* the camera.  He directed:
>_Ghandi_, _A Passage to India_, and _Cry Freedom_. 

I thought that David Lean directed _Passage_.  If not, what am I thinking
of?

Ron 8^|
From: kwilliam@mott.seas.ucla.edu (William Kuan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Why the title Notorious?
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:52:22 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles


	I am wondering why Hitchcock's Notorious is titled Notorious?
Anybody know?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: Most Maddening Movie
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:47:14 GMT

masticol@cadenza.rutgers.edu (Steve Masticola) writes:


>Here's a new topic: which movie made you the angriest? For whatever
>reason.


"Wild at Heart."  Proof that David Lynch can put whatever meaningless
garbage he wants on the screen and people will still call it "art."


                                       --Steve Stelter
                                         sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

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From: georgen@pooky.cs.mun.ca (George Noel)
Subject: Re: Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (minor spoilers)
Summary: Explained?
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 06:52:49 GMT

 How is the stoplight "explained"? I found that confusing as where the
 stoplight was located, there was no intersection, just a turn in the road.

>
>
>What is the symbolism of the White Horse that Mrs. Palmer sees in her visions?

 The only other time we see Sarah seeing the white horse was when Maddy
 was killed and Leland gave her the same type of drink (milk..warm milk?). If
 you noticed, it left a residue in the glass.. Leland drugged Sarah so she
 wouldn't know that he left the house (to kill Laura). He drugged Sarah in
 the series so she wouldn't know he killed Maddy. The White Horse represents
 the drug that he gave her I guess (a vision because of the drug).

>
>Who is the character David Bowie plays supposed to be?

 Bowie's character was "Phillip Jeffries" - only newly introduced. From the
 movie they say he has been missing for some time so I assume something
 similar happened to him like Cooper at the end of the second season where
 he gets trapped in the Lodge.
>
>Was the Chris Isaack (first FBI agent) character mentioned in the TV series?

 Chris Iassak's character wasn't mentioned before in the series either, he
 is new BUT Kiefer Sutherland's character Sam Stanley WAS mentioned in
 the pilot episode where Cooper recommends to Diane that Albert be assigned
 to the case instead of Sam.. says Albert is more reliable or something.>
>Is the Number 6 on the pole next to the "mystery trailer" supposed to mean
>something? (Lynch shows it several times)

 6? There were 6 people in The Red Room (above the convenience store)
>What is the significance of the ring that Teresa Banks/Laura Palmer wears? 
>Does this show up in the TV series anywhere? 

 The bearer of the ring sort of sells their soul thus why the LMFAP says
 "With this ring, I thee wed".


-=*George*=-
>
>
>
From: jon@cyclone.MITRE.org (J. E. Shum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: sex in movies
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:01:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The MITRE Corp. McLean Va.
Originator: jon@cyclone


In article <l3dn3xd@lynx.unm.edu>, lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
> clee@ssdsun.asl.dl.nec.com (Christina Lee) writes:
> 
> > I don't thing having a woman bouncing up and down on a guy is called
> > for. Nor is having a naked woman straddling a naked guy on a chair.  I
> > think that is too explicit. 
> 
> If you think these scenes are too explicit for you, don't go to "R"-rated
> movies.  You don't get to make those decisions for everyone else. 
> --
> Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

Well, not yet, at least...
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From: wheelan@cc.mcgill.ca (Bill Heelan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:01:14 GMT
Organization: McGill University, Computing Centre


  Maybe I just have a high pain threshold, but I've never walked out of a
  film, although "Mom and Dad Save the World" and "Beautiful Dreamers"
  would have been good places to start.

                                                         - Bill
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From: mol@jyu.fi (Mika O. Latokartano)
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:48:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.161814.19244@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:

>Oh the pain. I thought I had walked in on a showing of the Kirk Douglas/Farrah
>Fawcett Majors epic, "Saturn Three". I could not believe the review from
>Fangoria that it was "The best SF thriller since Aliens.". Don't we wish...

  That *was* terrible.  But how about "Megaforce"?  Or "Fright Night II".

	- Mika

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From: Douglas.Johnson@f31.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Douglas Johnson)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Script Query: _The_Princ
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 12:48:10 -0600

DM>    I've taken some fencing classes myself, and my instructor has been the
DM>Northwest champion several times in (I believe) epee and foil. He's also in
DM>training for the 1996 Olympic fencing team. Anyway, according to what I've
DM>been taught, the fencing in The Princess Bride, while somewhat contrived and
DM>actually quite slow, is one of the more accurate examples of swordplay in
DM>any movie. Hamlet (w/ Mel Gibson) is better, and shows several different
DM>styles, (disclaimer: I haven't seen Hamlet myself; this is second-hand info)
DM>but most other movies are absolute trash. Highlander was a joke, Hook was a
DM>curious mixture of the ridiculous with the (surprisingly) decent, and most
DM>others are worse. This is not only my opinion; my instructor was responsible
DM>for most of these evaluations, and while hardly qualified to be a judge of
DM>truly high-quality swordplay, I have to concur with his opinions.

However, it is important to realize that any swordfighting that you see
in movies or on stage fall into the realm of stage combat, and bear
little resemblance to actual fencing (usually).  As one who has done
both fencing and stage combat, I can truthfully say that there is a
world of difference between the two.

___
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 07:43:49 -0400 
From: "Marvin H. Blachman" <mb2i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Stay Tuned Question

I saw Stay Tuned a couple of days ago. I enjoyed it, but I'm afraid I
saw a little too much of myslef in John Ritter's character. Oh well,
maybe I'll hold off buying that sattelite dish!

Anyway, I could kill myself for not paying closer attention to the
credits. As many of you have probably seen on the commercial, there's a
scene that has Ritter on the Three's Company set. The blond is obviously
not any of the 3 blonds from the series, but my question is whether
that's really Joyce Dewitt (Janet). It sure looks a lot like her (at
least I remembered to look closely during the scene, but forget to
follow the credits). Can anybody who's seen the movie confirm this one
way or the other?

Thanks,

Marvin
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: "Stirred not shaken" or "Shaken not stirred" ?
Keywords: Bond
Date: 23 Aug 92 11:12:15 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA

In article <2715@nlsun1.oracle.nl> gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley) writes:
>
>   It's "shaken, not stirred". Nothing else.

Indeed, since stirring bruises the vermouth.

-- Herb Huston
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From: le01167@portal.lasc.lockheed.com (Ron Nadel (x2025))
Subject: Re: Best shots wanted
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Lockheed Aeronautical Systems Co. - Rye Canyon
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 21:03:02 GMT

How about the final moment in City Lights when the girl (who was blind 
until an operation restores her site) recognizes the tramp by the feel
of his hand (he used to hold her hand while reading to her).

A killer.

Ron
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Subject: Re: nude bears
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:46:29 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH


bright@nazgul.UUCP (Walter Bright) writes:

>Obsession with naked bears? I guess I ought to go look at old episodes of
>'Big Ben' and check out all those bear breasts :-) But wait .. Ben was a male
>bear!

Look down, walter.  See those nipples of yours?  They're on your breasts.
Yes, it's true, men have breasts, too.
-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
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From: rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A Lady and her Walrus)
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 10:06:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.210049.1@novax.llnl.gov> urbina@novax.llnl.gov writes:
>They were in this cheesemeister order:
>
>
>    "Q" with David Carradine.

You actually *paid* to see this movie?  

Gee, I'm sorry....

The Walrus


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