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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:57:11 CDT
From:         Lee=Jenkins%Factory=Sup%Mfg=Hou@BANGATE.COMPAQ.COM
Subject:      re: back to music
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From:           "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024%UABDPO.BITNET@AMERICAN.EDU>
Subject:        back to music
Date:           Thursday, August 13, 1992 at 12:28:19 pm CDT

[...]
>(3) on a scale of 1 to 10 how important is music in your life
>

  well, i can't really see it in those terms.  i prefer to look at it this
way:  on a scale of 231 to 498, with 318 being the highest, my favorite color
is still purple even after all these years, and no matter how many ways you
may find to skin a cat, music has an importance rating 286i + 291, where i is,
of course, the square root of -1.  that's just me, you understand.

>(4) Which instrument besides the one you play would you like to
>    play

sitar.

question 4 was much easier.

lee
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:09:35 EDT
From:         Rick <MMLRICK@UBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: naked ornette
              18 Aug 1992 14:22:38 -0400 from <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>

On Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:22:38 -0400 Russ Gelinas said:
>   Recently saw Naked Lunch, with Ornette Coleman doing the music.  His
>odd twisted tunes were the best part of the movie, IMHO.  Don't bother
>with the movie, read the book.

As I recall, Howard Shore wrote the music which featured Ornette & his
son Denardo improvising sax & drums over a static string background.
I also enjoyed the music very much-- it seemed to compliment the insect-
heavy ambience very effectively. I admire good use of music in films. I
cannot stand pop tunes being played on any soundtrack. It makes me think
I just spent 6 bucks to watch MTV on a large screen. Given a choice, I'd
rather the film be completely without music then have it be some top-40
band.

I liked the book better, too, but felt that the movie succeeded on its own,
as it wasn't meant as a literal adaptation of the novel. But let's not get into
any Siskel-&-Ebert crap on ALLMUSIC.

Don't eat that bug powder,
Rick
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From:         "OUT,
              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: CD Splurgefest for August

Tom says:

>Sting and Gil Evans: Last Session. A bootleg from Itlay - Sting with the
>Gil Evans' Orchestra along with Branford live at the Perugia Jazz Festival
>in July of 1987. The sound quality is great and the highlights include a
>big band version of Synchronicity, a couple Hendrix tunes, and lot's of
>Police and Sting material with great Gil Evans arrangments. Wow! What a
>find!!! And it's over 75 minutes long!!! Best find in months - only $31.

        Hee... I was there :). It was a great concert, in fact. I remember
it was considered such an event that the national TV broadcasted it from
start to end. And it was an event, indeed, since I believe that was one of
the very last times Gil Evans played live. He died a few months later, if
I remember well.
        I had a video of it until not so long ago. And, in spite of all the
arrangement efforts, the emotional peak was probably "Message In A Bottle"
for voice and guitar only.
        Thanks Tom for remembering the good times :)...

        Ciao, Marco
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Date: 13 Aug 92 15:50:05 GMT
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Marco,

Realize that Keith Richards does not play a six string guitar all the time.
He has this really battered Tele that has only five strings (missing
the high E) that are tuned to an open E or A major chord.
So the next time you break a that E string, think of it as a blessing and
tune to an open chord--maybe you'll learn a thing or two about
playing like Keith. :)

 3
M
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 11:43:54 -0400
From:         "Russell A. Potter" <rapotter@COLBY.EDU>
Subject:      ENYA / bodhran
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Eddy Higgins says that "the Irish
group De Dannan (pron. Day Dannan)." has one of the finest bodhran players
in Ireland.  Two (niggly) corrections: "De Dannan" is pronounced "Jay-Dunnun,"
NOT "Day Dannan," and erives from the Tuatha de Dannan (TOO-a-hugh Jay-DUNnun),
or "Children of the (goddess) Dana," the mythologucal forebears of the
Irish.  A second note: it's not often noted, but the word "bodhran" means
"deaf man" in Irish (one of many examples of the humor of the Irish
language).
--Russell Potter
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:18:00 PDT
From:         Christopher Harry <IZZYFC1@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Hello?

        I think I'm having problems with my mailer. If you see this, let me
know.


      Thanks.


              Chris
              izzyfc1@mvs.oac.ucla.edu
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:03:43 EDT
From:         Gary Hanley <ghanley@DG-WEBO.WEBO.DG.COM>
Subject:      Re: Covers and other trivia
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              at Aug 20, 92 11:16 am

Mike asked:

>Did you ever get to hear "Making Plans for Bison" by Shonen Knife-- who, it is
>alleged, have just signed a major label deal with (I think) MCA...

	No, but I've heard about it on the XTC list. Maybe someday...

Then he sed:

>I was always under the impression that "Honey Hush" was the original song as
>Johnny Burnette wrote it, and the Yardbirds wrote the "Train Kept a-Rollin'"
>lyrics so the song could get included in the soundtrack to the movie _Blow Up_
>without certain legal hassles.

	Here, I claim ignorance, and have to assume your probably correct.
I've always heard the "Train..." covers, and after hearing "Honey Hush"
afterwards, I assumed the "Train.." song was first.

--
Regards,
    Gary Hanley
<ghanley@dg-webo.webo.dg.com>
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 08:05:06 CDT
From:         Lee=Jenkins%Factory=Sup%Mfg=Hou@BANGATE.COMPAQ.COM
Subject:      Ofra Harnoy + 3
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yesterday after work i bought four cds:

   ofra harnoy - schubert's "arpeggione" sonata, d. 821 and prokofiev's
sonata, op 119.  solo cello and piano (michael dussek).  this is a really
wonderful disc!  i am listening to it now (2nd time through) and i am so
impressed with her playing.  she draws all kinds of tones from her cello --
sometimes it even sounds very much like a violin -- and her expressiveness is
amazing.
   the style of schubert's sonata is much more traditional than prokofiev's.
being only my second time through, i'm gonna give them a while to grow on me.
on the down side, though it is relatively low, there is a surprising amount of
background noise for on the cd.  it claims ddd, so i can only assume that it
was there when the music was originally recorded.  it's hard to understand why
rca would spend all that money for a fully digital studio and record such a
noisy signal.  finally, i'm not real hip on piano, which is a minus for me
since i think most solo cello works are written (and performed) with piano
accompaniment.
   overall it's a great cd.  the liner notes say she has also recorded some
vivaldi cello concertos, so i'll probably buy those next.

   i also bought: sonny sharrock _seize the rainbow_, ministry _kephale 69_,
and peter gabriel (_security_).  i've only sampled these, and lots has been
said here already about them, but here's my two cents:
   ministry - !!!!!.  wow!  i was weaned on metal from hendrix to ozzy, but
this was pretty intense.  these guys make vengeance rising sound mainstream.
also, the cd case, the paper, etc, smells real strange.  yuk!
   sharrock - this is quite a bit different from _ask the ages_, more like
rock n' roll, less like free form jazz.
   gabriel  - i've ony listened to the first two cuts -- _the rhythm of the
heat_ was pretty neat, but i was starting to get anxious to listen to ofra
harnoy in the middle of _san jacinto_, so i wasn't really paying close
attention.  i'll give it another go this afternoon.

lee

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From: rowhite@wrdis01.af.mil (Ronald D. White)
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Subject: Re: country blues
Summary: Lonnie Mack
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:32:28 GMT
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	Yeah.  Lonnie Mack.  Very influential blues guitarist.  I think 
Stevie Ray Vaughan oce said that Lonnie taught him how to REALLY play the 
blues.
	"Strike Like Lightning"  is a ggod album.  There's an acoutstical
collaborationn with Robert Cray on a very funny tune called the "Oreo Cookie
Blues".

		Later,
			Ron (pardon the typos)
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From:         "The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny"
              <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>
Subject:      Mick's got da blues (but he ain't got Jerry)
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I heard on the radio that Mick "Flaming Lips O' Death" Jagger is recording
an album of blues covers. He's being backed by a band from California
called the Red Devils (or something Devils). It's due out late in the fall.
This should be interesting if it's true...

Someone (sorry I forgot who) posted earlier that Robert Cray plays on
the tune "Oreo Cookie Blues" from Lonnie Mack's _Strike Like Lightning_.
The lineup on that song was Lonnie Mack, Stevie Ray Vaughan and Bill McIntosh.
Absolutely Cray-Free.

-Adam
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:01:00 GMT
From:         "OUT,
              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Guitar players

On Tue, 11 Aug 1992 07:57:04 CDT Leonard Watkins said:
>I've been playing the guitar for 20+ years, and i was always playing
>licks/solos/riffs thinking that's the thing to do, but the last few
>years i've realized that IMHO rhythym playing (not strumming but real
>rhythym) is very,very hard to play much harder than lead, i see/hear
>[...]
>it down first. Are they're other Guitar players who agree or disagree
>on this. I mean it took me 20 years to really cop the rhythm playing

        I've been playing guitar for 14+ years, and I am all but a wizard
of ther instrument. The point is that I can do Van Halen-like sounds quite
easily with that impressive but fundamentally easy two hands technique;
what I can't do is play a 5 notes riff like Keith Richards does... and I
don't have problems keeping the rhythm - the serious problem is that I
can't get my guitar to "pronounce" the licks as he does. And this is just
an example.
        Therefore, I can only agree with you, Leonard.

        Ciao, Marco
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From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Re: come monday
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U19807@UICVM.UIC.EDU Chris Krolczyk says:

>The problem lies with the
>fact that the Grammies are somehow perceived by large portions of the populace
>(at least those who tend to believe a lot of the dross that gets on TV) to be
>an award based on genuine talent and/or originality

I don't know a single person who believes that, but I may be one of
our VP's "cultural elites".  Everybody I know thinks the Grammies are
awarded by a bunch of out-of-touch old people (viz the Jethro Tull affair).
We only watch the Grammies for amusement.  Lately, the same thing has
been true for the MTV music awards, too.  God knows what universe the
MTV folks are living in, but it sure isn't mine.

Now why didn't Enya get a Grammie?

Bob
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From: bulm2533@hgc.edu (steven bulmer)
Subject: Re:      Re: Help me create a FAQ file
Organization: The Hartford Graduate Center
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 19:17:59 GMT

>da Beer sed to - Drummer - :
>
>>You will never beat me.  Never.
>
>How about me?  Will I ever beat you?
>
>Smooches,
>Libby Doe
>
>OMC: The Barenaked Ladies album, _Gordon_, went platinum in Canada this week...

 GO for it Beer...it's worth it!

   Tongue Bass

P.S. Beware of bouncing mail this week in my direction...'tween semester
upgrades I guess.  

OMC:  I am plying lounge lizard gigs this weekend at the Newport Resort
and Marina....rich babe heaven.   "Hey I'm a pirate in my spare time...
how about you ditch the old fart for an evening and screw around
with me and my parrot?"

-Steve B

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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:21:21 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Jazz Beginner
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Michelle can't improvise, and

>Can someone recommend where I can begin on this quest to become more familiar
>with jazz playing?  I will probably do most of the work on violin because it's
>the instrument I play most.  Scale books, theory and just general good books
>on the subject would be helpful.  I have a very diverse record collection and
>have many classic jazz albums from my grandfather's collection--if you could
>recommend some listening "assignments". . .

I think therein lies your problem.  Although jazz can be a technical thing,
with definite scales, etc., the soul of jazz is freedom, freedom to express
the sounds in your head.  Books, etc. aren't the way to release that.  What
you need to do is to play along with some jazz albums, to get the feel, to
get "the swing" of what jazz is all about.  Play along with a Django Rheinhart
and Stefan Grapelli album (that's acoustic guitar and violin, respectively).
The guitar will show you a number of classic jazz scales, and the violin
(and the guitar) will show you the swing.  It's a good idea too, to not try
to play a lot of notes at first; rather, listen closely, and maybe play a
single note in time to the music, or a trill.  Start slow and build up, but
don't forget the swing is the thing.  I don't remember who it was (Coltrane?),
but some famous jazzman, who was known for playing lots of notes, used to
practice by playing just one note for extended periods.  It's those subtle
variations that give jazz it's swing.  Once you can swing, you can improvise.
Good luck (and be patient).

Russ
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From:         "In a world gone crazy...." <QUINTAINE@TKM.BRANDONU.CA>
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 > Go ahead and say what you like about Billy Rae Cyrus;but there will be a day
 > with country songs going over to the pop charts; country songs will sweep the
 > Grammy Awards.
 > What do you have to say about that?!

Besides "I think I'm gonna hurl!", I'd have to say that that would be yet
another case in point in the inability of the Grammy awards to reward
the deserving artists.

BTW, I think they have a category at the Garmmies for country music..  Isn't
it called "Country"?

The grass is always greener on the pop side of the fence,

Corey
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:26:03 EDT
From:         AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject: Re: Here comes the political stuff again...
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What does politics have to do with music anyway?

I have just heard who some of the nomaties are for the CMA awards and my I
tell you that Billy Rae Cyrus got nomated 5 times for Achy Breaky Heart.  When
I get the complete list of nomaties I will let you know.
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From:         "The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny"
              <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>
Subject:      Quiz Answers (DO I WIN, DO I WIN?!?!?!)
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Leonard asks:

>(1) If you had ypur choice of playing in any band past/present who
    would it be or would you rahter front your own.

Sheesh..That's a tough one... I can think of hundreds of musicians past and
present I would like to play with, but unfortunately I think I would be in
over my head with most of them.

>(2) Think hard on this one, what do you think of Chet Atkins also
    do you own any of his stuff

I haven't listened to too much by Chet, but what I've heard sounds good to me.

>(3) on a scale of 1 to 10 how important is music in your life

9.
If I ever go deaf, shoot me. 8)

>(4) Which instrument besides the one you play would you like to
    play

1) A big summanabeach upright acoustic bass
2) Sax
3) Flute
4) Mandolin
5) Saw

Someone posted that Buddy Guy was going to be on the Tonight Show this evening.
I read in my local paper that it's a jam session with BG, B.B. King, Dr John,
and the Fabulous Thunderbirds. Get them VCRs warmed up!

-Adam
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From:         CSM Julian Sominka <jsominka@CSM.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Ministry

Much has been spoken about Ministry recently. Personally I
think they're OK but they are very much influenced by
Jim Thirwell.

Jim  Thirwell records under several names and bands most
have Foetus in the tital ( 'You've Got Foetus on You're
Breath', 'Foetus over Frisco', 'The All Nude Foetus Revue'
among others). He also records as Clint Ruin and is one
half of Wiseblood. His stuff is much better than Ministry,
- much wilder and more interesting. If you like the new
Ministry album you should like Jim Thirwell's stuff.

Julian.
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From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: In Defense of Country Music
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              Hammer" at Aug 14, 92 9:52 am

>
> Not all country music is sappy/cheezy, and not all of it goes THUNK, THUNK,
> THUNK.  There's bad music in any genre, but all genres have their high
> points, too.  Admittedly, my tastes in country music run to old stuff (20's-
> 50's), but here goes:
>...... [good list of stuff]
>
> -Scott "I'm Proud to be an Okie from Muskogee" Hammer
>  College of William and Mary
>
 Hey Scott, while you were away from the list giving up smoking we actually
(some of us) agreed on this point and had some great tunes tossed around as
examples of good country (most of it older stuff from exactly that period).
My THUNKS referred to contempo-mainstream-slobber.  Sonia
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da Beer sed to - Drummer - :

>You will never beat me.  Never.

How about me?  Will I ever beat you?

Smooches,
Libby Doe

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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:03:54 MDT
From:         weasels ripped my dress <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      RE: Sophie B. Hawkins
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Mike McGee said:
>        I picked up Sophie's cd awhile ago and I like her voice alot.  I
>don't watch much MTV anymore so I never saw the video until recently.
>My wife loves the cd.  I must admit she is very sexy although that has
>nothing to do with the music.  Amyway,  I just got ticket's to see her
>for $7 bucks.  Seems pretty cheap and should be a pretty good show.  Has
>anyone seen her yet?  The club is small which should make it a much
>better show than usual.

Hey, is she the blonde who sings a tune that goes something like  "DAMN, I wish
that I was your lover"?  My life story... I wish I would have written that
one...

- Carol
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