Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 92 20:50:17 CDT
From:         Robin Cover <robin@UTAFLL.UTA.EDU>
Subject:      Ibid and NB 4.0
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Re:
> From: "Paul J. Bodin" <pjb3@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
> Subject:      Re: Ibid and Notabene4

>> This is a plaintive cry for help (something seemed to go wrong with the
>> first one). Could someone/anyone please tell me how to install Ibid
>> Level 1 and Ibid Level1.1 Update in NB4? Installing from disk doesnt
>> work, nor does simply copying the Ibid files from NB3.1 to NB4. NB4 isnt
>> very useful to me if I cannot use Ibid with it.

> I hesitated to speak up because I don't know this for a fact, but I
> suspect that Ibid. for NB3.1 will simply not work with NB4.  The help
> file for the Ibid. that works with NB4 is noticeably different from
> the one for NB3.1, the key assignments are a bit different, etc.  The
> Ibid. database files are unchanged--the new Ibid works fine with my
> existing bibliography--but the help and program files are not the
> same.  I am afraid that those who want to use Ibid. with NB4 are going
> to have to upgrade Ibid. also...

> Paul J. Bodin

I'm afraid I'm completely confused at this point about what is
compatible with what in the NB4 suite of add-ons.  I'm even more
confused by Paul Bodin's "those who want to use Ibid with NB4 are
going to have to upgrade Ibid also..."

1) Is there, in fact, an Ibid "4.0" -- I mean, is NBI shipping a
version of Ibid that works with NB 4.0?  At one point, I heard that
the Ibid "update" would be delayed?

2) If the answer to (1) is "no" -- meaning that those faithful users
of NB (3.0) and its "add on" are left high-and-dry by a main product
that is out of step with its add-ons, then I wonder how the loyal
users of NB are supposed to feel.  Is the reward for buying the total
package being stranded when there's a major upgrade (e.g., 4.0)?

3) If the answer to (1) is "yes," then how much does it cost to
upgrade Ibid so that it works with NB 4.0?

Sorry if answers to my questions are all obvious: all the writing
of NBI's obituary has left me so depressed about the spectacle that
I have stopped reading NOTABENE these days.   I still don't have my
4.0 (paid for sometime in 1990, as I recall), so I can't say from
any documentation here.

As if the NB 4.0 situation doesn't make documentation matters bad
enough...I have several versions of Ibid, with fixes upon fixes,
and new printer files, and at this point I am so lost as the order
of installation events that I don't know where to begin.  None of the
paper documentation with these other fixes and upgrade versions is
dated, so I can't even tell which paper doc goes with which diskettes.

If someone can present a cogent picture of Ibid status -- well, for
now, I'm listening to this channel.

Robin Cover

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