From: thiru@lgc.com (Thiru Bollam)
Subject: Re: SOMALIA AND AYODHYA (PVNR undemocratic, unsecular)
Followup-To: thiru@rama.lgc.com
Organization: Landmark Graphics Corporation
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:24:08 GMT

In article: <1992Dec12.194035.9374@news2.cis.umn.edu> (Satya Prabhakar) writes:
In article <1992Dec12.183318.23288@lgc.com> thiru@lgc.com (Thiru Bollam) writes:
>>(Satya Prabhakar)'s opinion:
>>opinion in no way dilutes the responsibility of BJP/VHP combine.
>>They have wreaked havoc on India for their political ends and should
>>be tried and punished to the fullest extent of the law.
>>Muslims are in no way responsible for what has happened. But,
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>   Are you interested in taking cure to symptoms or look for eliminating
>   the cause?? When Hindus have learned to live harmoniously with
>   other minorities, parsis, jains, christians etc. in India, why should
>   you think they will have problems living with only muslims? Why don't 

>I asked a friend of mine the same question. He attributes it to
>the strength in numbers. He says that if Christians were as large
>a fraction of the entire population, we would have the same
>kind of problems. Since no one knows for sure, I am inclined to
>give benefit of doubt wherever it is due.

   Come on Satya, you can reason better than this. I have read lots of
   good stuff from you before. Ok, Even if we go with your argument, you 
   attribute the disharmonious relationship between minorities and majority
   to the strength in numbers of minority. The previous lines(if christians...)
   also indicate that when minority(weaker in numbers) becomes 
   strong(in numbers), they will also start fighting with majority
   (like muslims are doing now!). Then, giving our nation's UNITY the
   UTMOST priority, is it not logical to say, Dont' let the weaker
   minority become stronger and make the stronger minority the weaker
   (using some idiotic means!). Oh god!, Don't let me become so inhumane!
   So, where is your benefit of doubt due????

   Anyway, I don't subscribe to the idea of stronger minority will lead to
   weaker nation. I believe it's the beliefs, bellicose nature of minority
   community(common denominator in all muslim nations), if at conflict with
   the nation's interests will lead to such shameful end. Look at Parsis in
   India, they can dictate their words with their financial and administrative
   clout. Why dont' they do it?? It's do with the values they stand for.
   Hindus didn't object when nation has entrusted the defense research,develpt
   responsibility (Mr. Kalam) with a muslim or nation's popular game's leading
   position to a muslim so on and so forth. Hindus have inbuilt tolerance (
   I guess, more than what is needed) towards other people.
   Atleast, let's give the credit where it is due.

  
>This statement focuses on the events of the past one week. I see
>no reason why Muslim organizations can be held responsible for
>what has happened. It was BJP/VHP/RSS fanatics who chose to bring
>matters to a ignominous head by taking law into their hands. And
>for this you want us to hail RSS! If the BJP coterie was so much
>on the side of right, why couldn't they get the Supreme Court
>to rule on their behalf. There is a single culprit in this whole
>tragic mess: B J P. All I was saying is that the Islamic leader-
>ship could have averted it by choosing a path of conciliation 
>than a path of conflict.
>
   Well, again let's not restrict our vision to what has happened in
   last one hour, one week, one month..If we take the whole issue, in
   its proper perspective, we all know that it was all started by congress(i)
   martyr in 1987.(If you dispute this, then it's time we should go back
   and read some history before we proceed). It's pity that modern cong(i)
   visionary(no more with us!) couldn't visualize such incidents(Some ordinary
   people who were not as sophisticated as him, had called for the ban on
   site way before 1948, hoping of such incidents). So, it's not exaggeration
   nor wrong to say it started with this cong(i) leader. and BJP has brought
   it to a conclusive end. Thus, don't you see Cong(i) is the CAUSE and
   BJP is the symptom. It's left for you to choose what kind of prescription
   you want. And do you want listen about secularism from such hypocritic
   sycophants? In the end, I believe Supreme Court has no role to play in
   this issue. As science can't explain all phenomena, SC can't decide all
   issues. More over, I believe, Supreme Court should be abolished
   and restarted with new constitution for its failure to take
   responsibility to its children. Our forefathers of constitution desired
   the reservations to last until 1970, and make the whole nation literate,
   free from starvation, by then. Supreme Court which was supposed to  stand
   to uphold this principle has failed in principle and spirit, and has become
   a puppet in Center's hands to implement center's whimisical laws.
 
   But, I agree with you on one note. You rightly said, "All I was saying 
   is that the Islamic leadership could have averted it by choosing a 
   path of conciliation than a path of conflict". So, I would like to
   highlight here that we should not blame RSS/VHP/BJP for the present state.
   This was bound to happen some time, when the issue was opened with 
   narrow-minded politicans.

>>   Take care,

Hopefully this is a benevolent wish than a virulent threat :-)

   That depends, whether you are a mis-guided muslim or a Hindu   -)

   Bye,

   Thiru
   thiru@rama.lgc.com
   PS: Let's hope new generation politicians come out of all this mess

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