From: jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff)
Subject: Re: Contact Notes
Organization: BeHereNow
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 06:45:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.193916.27667@eskimo.com> nanook@eskimo.com (Robert Dinse) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.200454.9746@netcom.com>, jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff) writes:
>
>> It is highly likely that most ET visitors are here for our benefit.
>
>     Jeff, do you mind if I ask on what do you base that assertion?
>
>     The few people I've been able to communicate with have not come away from
>their experiences with that interpretation.

I think I base that assertion on what I have read from W. Stevens, and talking
to James Harder, among many, many others. Read about the Galactic Federation.
I do believe it exists. Mostly because of what contactees relate. At some
point, I have made that leap- I believe there are SO MANY contactees now, many
with the same messages of evolutionary work to be done on our part, that it is 
not likely that all these people are insane and spewing these stories. These
are normal, average people that have been contacted and are now communicating
these experiences as they have been instructed to do. They exist all over the
world, not just in Europe and the US, and they have been undergoing these 
contacts for at least 45 years, if not since recorded history. 

>
>     If you look at human history, for example what happened when Europeans
>first came to the Americas and started interacting with the natives here, it
>is evident that whenever a technologically more advanced civilization here
>has encountered a less advanced civilization, it was not for the less advanced
>civilizations benefit.

It is possible that not all alien races are benevolent in their intentions, 
and I believe that at least some ET races are held at bay by the Federation,
that protects the human race of earth. I have not made any judgement regarding
the greys. There is no evidence, and very little data to make an assertion 
as to thier intentions, and it is possible that there are factions of positive
and negative groups within that ET race.

>
>     Even when the intent was to benefit the less advanced civilization, i.e.,
>the missionaries that sought to save their souls by converting them to their
>religious beliefs, destruction still resulted.
>
>     I would like to know otherwise, that is to say that you are right, but so
>far I have not been able to talk to anyone who has had a positive first hand
>experience.  (If there is someone out there that has, I would like to hear
>from you).


Here we go again with the speech:

If you are looking at this in terms of human experience, then your going to 
miss the larger points. Chances are this is much larger than our knowledge
base can comprehend entirely, certainly within the realm of our current 
cultural experience. Anthropomorphism should be AVOIDED.

The Berkeley conference hosted by James Harder this year had many people
whom related experiences of a benevolent nature. Not one had a negative
experience. It is possible that those whom do have negative experiences
are drawing negative reactions from childhood trauma, and are the
majority that are seeking professional therapy, thus Bud Hopkins,
and other's abduction tails of a negative nature.
Jeff-




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