HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Yawning and the pain in the nose?
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:54:45 GMT
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM

In article <1992Oct08.201417.7219@bnr.ca> labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche) writes:
>I get strange sensations in my nose without yawning.  
>Allergies make my nose feel strange.  Pimples make my
>nose feel strange.  Elaborate on your condition and I'm
>sure some the enlightened residents will be willing to
>discuss your problem.

Okay, the pain is of very short duration.  It is more like a
sharp tingling sensation.  It lasts about 15 seconds or so.
I never feel it at any other time.

-- 
Ralph Yozzo (yozzo@watson.ibm.com)  
From the beautiful and historic Mid-Hudson Valley area of NY state
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From: richard@octel.com (Richard Karasik)
Newsgroups: sci.med,sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: Homeopathy
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:41:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: octel.1992Oct8.174138.24174
Organization: Octel Communications Inc., Milpitas Ca.

In article <1992Oct7.145345.27073@nuscc.nus.sg> med50003@nusunix1.nus.sg (WANSAICHEONG KHIN-LIN) writes:
>Concerning non-linear thinking :
>
>Homeopathy proposes that in order to cure an illness, the treatment
>should ally itself with the illness. Hence medicine is considered
>allopathic e.g. you give an aspirin for a fever and the fever settles.
>That is, you have used an antagonistic agent to achieve this.
>
>Homeopathy suggests using drugs, plants, chemicals, etc that have the
>same effect but diluted to the point where they are not strong enough to
>be lethal (some of these are very potent agents).
>
>The problem lies in the fact that diluted beyond certain point, it is
>questionable if any effect exists (or does non-linear thinking ignore
>asymptotic approach?)
  It does not ignore this, however I implied that Homeopathy -as such - in it's
  dilution theory-  may have been as guilty of linear thinking (ie if 100th of
  this is good then a trillionth must be better) as any one else, and that perhaps
  the whole thing needs to be re-examined with an eye
  to looking for non-linear (ie unexpected) EFFECTS while linearly varying the
  CAUSES. 

  I see - 20 minutes of sunlight is good -therefore 4 hours must be better is
  the kind of hokum I wish to expose to the light of day (ho ho).
>
>To accept that dilution of agents to a millionth of a millionth retains
>the activity of the original is not common or readily accepted.

   Except in the realm of pheremones -too much and you hit receptor overload
   and can't notice anything!

Richard

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From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Sinus Headaches
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:36:32 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <BvnH47.Mup@acsu.buffalo.edu> oispeggy@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Peggy Brown) writes:
>
>Sounded like a migraine to me, right up until you said it was 
>tolerable.
>
Actually, there are many degrees of vascular headaches, from
hardly noticible (I get these if I stay up too late the night before)
to intolerable migraines.  Many migraine sufferers find that not
only do their terrible headaches go away with treatment but also
their milder ones that they sometimes have almost daily.  They
can just be variants of the same thing.



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From: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: American Medical Association warns of illegal drug importation
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:10:44 GMT
Reply-To: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <92279.174937CXKPV@ASUACAD.BITNET> CXKPV@ASUACAD.BITNET writes:

>Among the AMA's other concerns are the reduced need for competent citizens to
>shell out a hundred bucks to have the privilige of being able to get a piece
>of paper which will allow them to buy a refined chemical packaged in pill form.

My goodness, you are paying way too much. You can find a few doctors
named Dr. Feelgood in almost any city in the U.S. who will do this
for much less money, and you have the bonus of never having to take
your pants off. They may even get their own specialty recognized by
the Donnelly Directory.

 -km
From: rind@binoc.bih.harvard.edu (David Rind)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Hepatitis C
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:54:51 GMT
Organization: Beth Israel Hospital, Harvard Medical School, Boston Mass., USA

In article <n2np5bj@lynx.unm.edu> bhjelle@carina.unm.edu writes:
>The virus' sole effect is on the liver. About half of those
>infected get some degree of chronic liver inflammation (hepatitis);
>the other half have no problem whatsover from the virus.

I'm not certain how you're defining effects on the liver, but the
most recent Annals of Internal Medicine has an article strongly
suggesting that HCV is the major cause of essential mixed
cryoglobulinemia.  Presumably this is due to an ongoing immune
process from hepatitis, but I wouldn't consider it confined to
the liver.
-- 
David Rind
rind@binoc.bih.harvard.edu
From: mdf0@GTE.com (Mark Feblowitz)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Flu Shot While Pregnant?
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:58:05 GMT
Reply-To: mfeblowitz@gte.com
Organization: GTE Laboratories Inc.

A small article in Monday's Boston Globe referenced a study that
encouraged pregnant asthmatic patients to remain on their medications,
stating that the complications to mother and baby of uncontrolled
asthma in the pregnant mother are far worse than any known side
effects of asthma medications. An asthmatic expecting mother that has
asthma flairs triggered by any of the viruses contained in the flu
shot would probably want to carefully weigh the risks of not having a
flu shot.

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Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: "drop-out" in fingernail beds (was RE:examining hands)
From: <EWN1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 08:04:15 EDT
Organization: Penn State University

I know (or at least I was told) that "drop-out" is an abnormality where
the capillaries in the fingernail beds don't look right.  I was also
told that this can be caused by an auto-immune deficiency disease, or it
could just be normal.  My rheumatologist also said it could be caused by
trauma to the hands -- could typing all day constitute this kind of
trauma?  Is "drop-out" a frequently seen occurrence?  Are there any other
general causes for it?

Thanks in advance.
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From: wsadjw@rw7.urc.tue.nl (Jan Willem Nienhuys)
Newsgroups: sci.med,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: Homeopathy
Date: 14 Oct 92 11:05:18 GMT
Reply-To: wsadjw@urc.tue.nl
Followup-To: sci.med
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands

In article <BSIMON.92Oct13075428@elvis.stsci.edu> bsimon@elvis.stsci.edu (Bernie Simon) writes:
>happened with my comments. First, Benveniste submitted a paper to
>_Nature_ on basophil degranulation by homeopathic dilutions of
>histamine. The referees of the paper inisited that the study be redone
>by other laboratories before they would publish the paper. This was
>done, by two laboratories in Italy and Israel, which observed the same
>result.
???? In Israel they didn't get the same result. So they invited the
main experimenter, Ms. Davenas, to come and do it for them.  She 
brought her own materials with her.  Very funny statistics ensued,
which nobody in Israel noticed.  But they did notice something else:
in the test tubes that supposedly contained only 10^30 times diluted
IgE, there were protein-like substances that shouldn't have been there
at all, and that resembled in a test (electrophoreris) exactly the same
bands as IgE (which doesn't conclusively *prove* it was IgE, but, as said,
the stuuf shouldn'thave been there at all). 
These Israeli results were in the paper, including their improbable statistics.

I've written to the Israeli lab, and they answered properly.  But my
letter to the Italian lab was never answered.

JWN
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: cease@carina.unm.edu (Cecilia De Blasi)
Subject: Re: Peroxide and the bubbling reaction?
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 02:45:51 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Oct08.152150.96426@watson.ibm.com> yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo) writes:
>Why is it that peroxide bubbles when it is placed on a cut?
>
>(I've been told that it is a sign that it is killing germs,
>but I think that it is a reaction with the blood.)
>
>-- 

My guess is that the ubiquitous enzyme catalase is carrying out
the following reaction:  

2 H2O2 ---->  2 H2O  +  O2(gas)




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From: green@island.COM (Robert Greenstein)
Subject: Re: Put up or shut up  (was: alternative medicine newsgroup)
Organization: Strawman Incorporated
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:12:09 GMT

In article <1asd90INNhce@cs.utexas.edu> turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin) writes:
>-*----
>In article <1992Oct5.205204.5875@island.COM> green@island.COM (Robert Greenstein) writes:
>> ... You say "alternative" medicine isn't science, but I have
>> posted on more than one occasion about the scientific
>> inquiry into Oriental medicine, but you ignore it. Why? 
>> Because it doesn't fit your model. ...
>
>Bullshit.
>
>Your posts were not ignored.  Both Gordon Banks and I asked you
>some very basic questions about the subjects on which you posted.
>The questions I remember included:
>
>  o  How does one measure qi?
>
>  o  What basic experiments show its existence and behavior?
>
>  o  For what phenomena does traditional Chinese medical theory
>     provide a better explanation than current western medicine?
>
>You ignored these questions.  That is where the dialogue stopped.

What I was referring to in previous posts was scientific validation
of treatment success with Chinese medicine in order to counter the 
"its just a plecebo" argument. There are a lot of scientifcally
validated studies in this area.

But you are arguing that I need to scientifically prove the existence
of qi before I can make any claims of efficacy. I disagree. You're wasting
a lot of energy trying to apply reductionist thinking to Chinese medicine.
However, if you insist, here is a short, non-inclusive bibliography that
I came up with it. Have at it:

* Chinese Medicine - Its History, Philosophy, & Practice, & Why It May
    One Day Dominate the Medicine of the West - Manfred Porkert

* Tongue Diagnosis - Essence and Scientific Background 
    Ze-lin Chen and Mei-fang Chen

* Researches of Acupuncture, Moxibustion, and Anesthesia - Science Press

* Neurochemical Basis of Pain Relief by Acupuncture - J.S. Han

* Science and Medicine in Twentieth Century China - Bowers, Hess, & Sivin

* Scientific Basis of Acupuncture - Bruce Pomeranz and G. Stux

* The Vital Meridian - A Modern Explanation of Acupuncture 
   Alan Bensoussan

* The Web That Has No Weaver - Ted Kapchuk

I doubt any of this will satisfy you, but I'm still waiting for the 
explanation of how aspirin works.

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From: dl10697@ehsn3.cen.uiuc.edu (Duc Trieu Le)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Selling the net to physicians
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:59:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw2KJp.2xy
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

aldridge@netcom.com (Jacquelyn Aldridge) writes:

>nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu (David A. Nye MD) writes:


>>        A couple of physicians asked me the other day in the doctor's
>>        lounge how the net could be of use to them professionally.  This
>>        gave me the idea that a medical resource list would make a good
>>        FAQ.  Does this already exist somewhere?  If not, perhaps we
>>        could put one together as a group effort.  Its purpose should be
>>        to attract new physicians and other allied health professionals
>>        to the net and to make the net more useful to those already
>>        using it.

>>        What are some other ways we could make the net more useful to
>>        this group?  Obviously the more useful it is, the more people
>>        will use it, and vice-versa.  For starters:

>	Did you know that physicists and other groups are starting journals
>on the net. Journals by net are low cost, there can be highly moderated,
>and unrestricted open journals. Systems for peer evaluation of  articles
>are known but not yet in service. . 
>	Basically, a net journal now allows a person to download the
>entire text of an article desired without cost. Moderated journals might
>need subscriptions to support the editors. Abstracts in many fields are now
>produced by the article authors. 
> 

The journals need not be completely text-oriented. I know a few university
post their technical reports for anonymous FTP. The good thing is the
reports are stored in Postscript format, which allow the author to 
include pictures in their reports. Maybe these journals could be
stored in Postscript or some other type of graphics making the
paper more useful and understandable. This is just a suggestion.

Duc T. Le
led@sunfs1.dsd.northrop.com
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: mryan@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: cats (was Re: Attention Deficit Disorder Resources)
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:10:56 GMT

>>	a pill or an antedote.  I mean if you are allergic to cats
>>	do you keep cats and take antihistimines, or get rid of the cats.
>You take antihistimines and keep the cats, obviously.
> 

Why bother?  Cat allergies are a fallacy!

Neither I nor anyone else in my family is allergic to cats despite a lifetime
of exposure to the furry beasts.  Therefore I must conclude scientifically
that:
	Allergies don't exist!  Allergies are all in your mind!


;-);-);-);-);-);-);-);-);-);-);-);-);-) (for the humor-impaired)


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From: Pat.Churchill@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Allergic to heat condition
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:51:17 GMT

In article <5229@daily-planet.concordia.ca> yau@cs.concordia.ca (Joseph K. K. Yau) writes:
> Anyone know anything about a skin allergy called allergic to heat
> condition (that is what I call it). 
> 
> Ever since I was a child, my skin is very sensitive to heat. Especially in
> the winter. 
> 
> Whenever I feel hot, the skin on my face, my skull, my back and my chess
> turn red (like rash but the skin is smooth) and become very itchy. 
> And when this happen, I can feel my brain is expanded and I can feel the
> pause of the blood moveing in my head (sometime even headache). It happen
> also when I got excited by some external events, such as embrassment,
> nervus, anger or after I got scare.
> 
> The only thing I can do to calm it down is to cool it down. Like go to the
> washroom and let cold water spray on my arm or wrist for 4-5 minutes. or go
> to a room with air conditioning. Then I will feel better and the rash will
> disappear in 1/2 - 1 hrs.
> 
> I visited the doctor and the doctor said it may be somthing to do with the
> blood vessle. But it is not a big problem. The doctor also told me that
> when it happen, go to a cool place or wash my hand is the only way to do.
> Any there is no medicine to cure it. Other than that the doctor did not
> tell me anything.
> 
> I was just wondering if there is anyone out here have heard of this kind of
> thing or know what is the medical term of this skin problem. Anyone found a
> cure for that.
> 
> -Joe
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> yau@cs.concordia.ca
> Concordia University, 
> Montreal, Quebec
> Canada
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have a similar problem although I suspect mine might be a menopausal
thing.  However, I like to keep the air conditioning in my office on
almost freezing all year round.  Food and drink (particularly coffee,
spicey food, alcohol) often trigger the glowing face and neck.  Really
annoys me when I am out at dinner and find myself glowing :-(

I don't find it so bad in the summer.  Maybe we can sweat freely in
the summer and this relieves the condition?

I also have another theory.  My *normal* body temperature is around
97F.  Maybe my temperature control is faulty :-)

My skin also gets very dry and itching in winter.

Like you - I would like a cure...

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From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: balance disorders
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:20:22 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <keoBA5W00UhWQ7LxU3@andrew.cmu.edu> ac10+@andrew.cmu.edu (Alison Rebecca Colman) writes:
>Hello,
>
>I have a few simple questions. One, do balance disorders exist? If so,
>what are they technically called, and what (in general) causes them? I

Ataxia.  Caused by many different disorders of the brain and vestibular 
system.

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From: kja@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (krista.j.anderson)
Subject: Re: Interim Report From FAQ Working Group
Summary: got it!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:20:52 GMT

In article <16891@pitt.UUCP>, geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
> The stuff about shingles is a good example of FAQ.  If
> you put that in there we won't have to answer that question
> again next time.

Ok!  I've downloaded the thread to my pc.  I have about 15M for
temporary storage like this until the FAQ site is ready.  I will
also try to salvage the sinus/migraine/headache thread.
-- 
Krista Anderson, att!ihlpf!krista
From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Cluster Migraines
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:43:52 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <1992Oct9.172248.27163@hellgate.utah.edu> rfrazier%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Robert Frazier) writes:
>
>	I have an aunt who has cluster migraines.  Anyone who has experience
>with these knows, that they can be completely dehabilitating.  I am looking
>for some information to help her.  Her migraines start in her eyes, and
>spread through her jaw and teeth.
>
Cluster headaches are not really migraines, although they are
a type of vascular headache.  It is extremely unusual for
cluster headaches to switch sides or to be on both sides during
one cluster, so if she really has headache in (plural) eyes,
the diagnosis may be inquestion.

>		Ferinol
>		Codeine

>		Ergamar
>		Cafragot


Neither Ergomar nor Cafergot are pain killers.  They are vasoconstrictive
agents.

>	Oxygen

7 liters/min by ventimask helps the majority of cluster sufferers

>	Diet

Strict avoidance of alcohol is advised.  Other dietary measures
seem to have little effect.

>	Ice

If it makes you fell better, use it.

>	Stadad - nasal spray pain killer

Never heard of it.

>	Some form of injection specific to migraine treatment. It is made
>	by Glaxo Holdings and is available in Europe, but not U.S.
>	Indoral/Beta Blockers
>
Sumatriptin.  Not available yet.

Sansert is the old reliable for cluster headache.  Periactin and
verapamil also may work.
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From: murphyg@Software.Mitel.COM (Gary Murphy)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Bernie Siegel & Cancer
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:14:19 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.


I think the subject line says it all.  Is anyone familiar with Dr.
Siegel's works and what is the consensus on his approach to cancer
treatment &c.  Should I be concerned if a friend abandons cancer
treatment to embrace his approach and just what is his approach?

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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: sci.med,sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: Homeopathy
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:30:26 GMT
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Oct6.221857.14985@octel.com> richard@octel.com (Richard Karasik) writes:
>Lets take another cut at this - First of all will anyone who knows
>the mechanism of the action of aspirin please step forward and describe it -
>preferably Steve Dyer -who claims that it is well known.
>I would like to know this and others might also ..

Look it up--I'm not going to waste my time explaining it to you.  I've talked
about this tens of times on sci.med in the past 7-8 years.

>Second -less is more is less etc.
>   Take a look at electrical fields. At a certain field strength
>   they cause no changes to cells. A little stronger, and the
>   cells can mutate to neonatal forms, stronger still, and the cells
>   will "resist" the field almost like a virus encysts, stronger still
>   and you plain fry the cell.

What is this guy _talking about_?  The only electric field he's ever
experienced comes from sitting in front of his terminal or TV set.
What he's describing is gibberish.  Which is about the only thing it
has in common with homeopathy.

-- 
Steve Dyer
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From: Rick.Ellis@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Yawning and the pain in the nose?
Date: 9 Oct 92 00:46:24 GMT
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992

On <Oct 08 17:46> Ralph Yozzo writes:

 RY> Have you ever yawned and then felt a strange sensation in your
 RY> nose?  It happens to me.  Is this normal?  And what causes it?

It's most likely your sinuses.  Yawning could open them up enough to drain or 
equalize air pressure.
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