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In Article 13389 in soc.culture.iranian, me12@prism.gatech.EDU (Reza Ebrahimpour) writes:

>Reading the recent postings in response to Mahin, Naghmeh and some other
>female readers of this newsgroup, I was just wondering why we always attack
>their personal lives.
>
(stuff deleted..)

>Mahin or anybody else is in need of sex is compatible with  most of
>our cultural/religious values.
>
>As far as I remember, you just don't walk to someone and suggest that
>going to bed with a man is going to solve their problems, no matter how
>you think of that person's values or behavior.
>Frankly, I expected a lot better arguments against Mahin.
>Using this line of personal attacks only attracts more sympathy for her.
>
>And please don't tell me guys that you are doing this for the love of
>God. The Prophet and our Imams never approved of the use of foul
>language against their opposition. Clearly we cannot be as high as they
>are. But the least we can do is to stop ourselves from drowning in dirt.
>
>Am I alone in thinking this way?
>

No, I completely agree.  A man who resorts to the above acts in answer to
his female opponents clearly has NO HONOR, and really goes to show the limits
of what trash humans are capable of becoming.

>Reza Ebrahimpour
>

wishing you the best dairy products,

Agha Javad
(paneer-e-bolghAree mojood ast)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian)
Subject: Re: Monty Hall Paradox (was Re: Physics-1A Question)
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:01:55 GMT

In article <92282.115715RMODARR@auvm.american.edu> Reza Modarres <RMODARR@auvm.american.edu> writes:

>     I wouldn't worry about it. This problem has a long history and has stumped
>     the best probabilist/statisticians. It also appeared in Prade Magazin in
>     a column by Marilyn von Savant who reportedly holds the world's highest
>     IQ. She also analyzed the problem in the same manner that you did.
>     It's trivial to see that the problem is dependent on the hosts strategy,
>     however. A simple simulation based on the equiprobable assumption shows
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>     that the odds are 1/3 to 2/3. Here we go again with assumptions.:-)
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>RezA

It depends on how you run the simulation. By "equiprobable assumption" you
probably mean that the first choice is done with equal probability. We have
no problem here. The trick of the problem is somewhere else. The question
is: AFTER the first choice, how do you pick from the other remaining two? 
Do you do a WISE choice, i.e. you know which box is empty and deliberately 
choose it, or do you just pick one of them and it happens that it is empty. 
Now if you want, I can tell you how to run a simulation based on the second 
strategy to obtain 1/2 to 1/2 odds.

Seyyed.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Re: Purpose of life??? (includes Farsi text)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 00:06:21 GMT



A while back Reza Shahidi asked:

>              What is the purpose of life?

As I was going through some old files (not computer files, real stuff
on paper :-) last night, I found this poem. Although it doesn't answer
the above question, it provides a point of view.

I don't know who the poet is. Here it goes:

**************************************************************
zendegee zeebAst, ey zeebA pasand
                        zendeh andeeshAn beh zeebA'ie resand
An-ghadar zeebAst in bee bAzgasht
                        kaz barAyash meetavAn az jAn gozasht
**************************************************************

    --mack
From: nsohrabi@athena.mit.edu (Naghmeh Sohrabi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Mahin khAnoum roush nemisheh!
Date: 8 Oct 92 02:23:59 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology


Now, I haven't been reading the interesting insults that have been thrown back
and forth between the two parties here very carefully.  I was afraid I'd learn
"bad" words I didn't already know, and would have to end up using them some day.
But it seems to me that Seyyed is desparately trying to find Mahin a husband and
the rest of you have taken insult at this.

Now people, be reasonable.  If I understand this correctly, matchmaking has
always existed as a means of making money for old women who have lost their youth
and can not prostitute themselves.  That's all Seyyed's trying to do:  Make some
money.  He doesn't mean anything bad or insulting.  He's just too shy to say he
needs some money, so by insisting on finding a husband for Mahin, he's trying to
pull through these rough times.

Come on people.  Be more tolerant towards those less unfortunate than yourselves
and understand the poor guy's situation.  Let him think he can pass by as an old
matchmaker, and pray to your gods he sees the light of green and goes back to his
more respectable job as a grad. student.

Sincerely,
naghmeh
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From: farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri)
Subject:   Message for Mr. Hossein Bagherzadeh Rafsanjani
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:07:56 GMT


[Sorry folks,  this is for Hossein AghA]


Hossein Jon,

All emails to your site  is rejected.  I tried to send you the
stuff you requested but with no luck.

Please email me a valid address,  the first mail server
at UK has problems and the second one (backup) does not know you.


Please email me directly!

-- 
         +----------------------------------------------------+
        /   Farhad  Shakeri         E-Mail:                  /
       /  Stanford   University     farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU  /
      / Computer Science Department                        /
     +----------------------------------------------------+
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From: seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian)
Subject: What is freedom?
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:13:20 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.173152.5664@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri) writes:

>Why not?   Please elaborate on this!  What do you mean by burnt?
>           ( embarrassed, murdered, labeled kAfar,spy...)

kAfer AghA jAn kAfer! chand daf'eh begam?! And yes ... why not? :-)
Well, it depends on what you do! If you spy, do you expect to be labeled
otherwise? There *are* some people who are spying for say Iraq, and they
think they are fighting for the freedom of their country.

>What you say is,  go ahead do politics but try not change the system 
>no matter how corrupt and destructive the system is.  

No. I am saying: If you think the system is corrupt, try to change it, but 
do it in a wise way. Be a friend. If you see a mistake, don't report it to 
the enemy, tell it to the friend. If the friend doesn't understand, be 
patient. Don't betray him. If you have this policy, you will never fail,
because even if you make a mistake, you are safe. But if you get involved
in political issues, and take side, you might end up in killing innocent
people or expressing joy for the murder of innocent people who gathered
around a tomb. In this case, you are obviously making trouble for yourself
for nothing!

>You really don't know the meaning of freedom, do you Seyyed?  

The kind of freedom you are looking for, doesn't exist in the whole world!
Do you think the relative freedom you have in the US, is because they are
JUST? Do you think if they had economic problems and bombs exploding
everywhere, you would have the same freedom? Do you think if CIA considers
you as dangerous to the security and integrity of the country, you will
have a fair trial? Your problem is that you are not involved with REAL
problems that a country has. Just think about the problem of mandatory
military service. As you know, in the US, military service is ordinarily
voluntary. But look at what happened during the Gulf war. How many
people were forced to go to war? I personally am against mandatory
military service in Iran. Even the political leaders agree that voluntary
forces are much better. But I cannot simply expect the government to
release the forces! Do that and see what happens! The weakest countries
will try to invade Iran! I have to have a PLAN. Since I am not an expert
in this issue, I keep quite and hope that somebody comes with a plan.

>         +----------------------------------------------------+
>        /   Farhad  Shakeri         E-Mail:                  /
>       /  Stanford   University     farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU  /
>      / Computer Science Department                        /
>     +----------------------------------------------------+

Seyyed.
From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Khuzestan
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:57:20 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
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In article <1992Oct8.023140.1@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu> desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...) writes:

>Here are a few more... See if you can guess them...

wolek dame hamatoon garm!

ill try some guesses (i spent a good number of eid's in khoozestaan, but
never really lived there (moved to tehran when i was four :(, but the 
patriotism and the sense of belonging runs deep)):

>
>	o  Oolaa	o  A`cheh	o  Le-Vaa	o  Kanee-saa
>	o  Eelaa	o  Mooflangi	o  Harrysaa	o  Kelek
>	o  Mi		o  Dolabb	o  ShavAdoon	o  Reet
>	o  Shoomee	o  Sar Oo	o  Gajjdoom

oolaa - sort of like oonjaa i think
eelaa - opposite of oolaa

mi -	moo?  i think shooshtarees also use mel.

shoomee - hendoone.  i believe it is derived from shaamee, meaning
        imported from shaam.  im sure seyed will correct me if
	im wrong!

a'cheh	- why, cheraa

mooflangi - bozo?  goofball?  sort of like fogor in shooshtari?

doolaab - cupboard, ganje

sar ow  - sare aab?  by the river?

lee-va  - crazy, deevaane

harrysa - isnt that the first level of a zeer zameen?

shavadoon - the second (deeper) level of zeer zameen

gajdom -  aghrab (comes from kaj-dom it seems)

kaneesaa - ?

kelek - ?

reet - rooyat?  rooye to?  as in mabaa reeeeeta!


ps do your remember these gems:

   peteghejghej		(ghe, pronounced as 'r' in french, j as j in jaapon) 
   chapeele
   gel-geraat
   azye-geraat
   ghel-geleep		(ghe as in ghaaf)
   teer-fereng
   

this is great, keep'em coming.  i encourage people from other ethnic 
groups to teach us a few choice words from their dialects!  who knows,
maybe we the transplanted shall someday have our very own dialect, started 
right here in sci!
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From: bsadeghi@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Behzad Sadeghi)
Subject: Re: Mahin khAnoum roush nemisheh!
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:47:39 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.181240.11239@sun1x.actc.res.utc.com> ali@utrcv1 (ALI BABA) writes:
>Dear Behzad;
>Baba ghYsar khane shoma kotah beyaied
>Since you know the word and like Mahin alot, do mahin a favor and  take the
>job, even though the name is awful but the money is wonderful.
>By the way, after two hours of meeting with Amoo and Sogoly last night at
>ghahvah khaneh, Amoo agreed to let Mahin  who left Iran at a young age
>and never got to have a good taste of Iranian men and their (gooshty logic)
>to come and entertain at the ghahveh khaneh on Saturday and Sunday nights,
>unfortunately not on  Friday night because according to Sogholi's belief
>and the old legend Iranian men's (ghooshti logic) gets more aggresive and
>dangerous on (shabeh joomeh) and that's not going to be a pleasant for
>Mahin's first Iranian close encounter.
>After another meeting with Agha javad, he agreed to let us use his sign.
>we will be hanging a red computerized sign on (drabe shomaly ghahvah
>khoneh)
>saying "Khanoom rashti reseed" oops! sorry guys, "Brenje rashti reseed"
>So join us this saturday and sunday night at Amoo's Ghahvah Khaneheh where
>Mahin will try to tame Mashe ghafoor's 12" ghooshti logic using Einstein's
>law. We are all sure she will have a happy life and won't feel like (torshi
>baademjoon) after her first Iranian close encounter.
>P.S.
>Due to aid disease, bring your own (baadkoonek) for protection and
>Use the back-door as an emergency door in case of police raids or
>Sogholi's arrival.
>
>                    ************************************************
>                    * ALI BABA, not a legend, but the shining      *
>                    *       star of the 1996 olmpic                *
>                    * **********************************************
>
>
>Internet = Ali@utrc. utc.com
>

make no mistakes about it folks, what you have just read, is
islam at its best.

and to my dearest friend ali baba;

yo mama wears army boots [(c) 1992, cockroach]

behzad

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: Mohaghegh
Subject: RE: Please leave Baha'is ...
Summary: None
Keywords: None
Organization: None
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:41:14 GMT


Mr. Towfiq says:
>   Immediately after the declaration of the Bab, the Babi and Baha'i
> Faiths were ruthlessly persecuted; 20,000 people were killed during
> that time.  This is corroborated by independent accounts.
This is real history, so please allow me to ask you some questions.
1) How long is immediately after?
2) Exactly which declaration of the Bab you have in mind? ( just to
remind you; he started from being a "Bab" and gradually was promoted
to the degree of "zatollah and keynonniyateh" or, as you know, the
real God! )
3) Was there any Baha'is at "immediately after"?
4) Which 20,000 people are you refering to?
5) Were these 20,000 people Baha'is or Muslims?
6) When was "that time"?
Mohaghegh





Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: behrooz@cps.msu.edu (Roozbeh Behrooz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Mother of Iranian Cinema (Part 2)
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:46:46 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University, College of Engineering
Originator: behrooz@indian.cps.msu.edu

This is Part 2 of the article "Mother of Iranian Cinema" From the magazine
Gozaresh-e Film (Movie Review) published monthly in Iran.
In the first part we saw that Rogieh started out her career in theaters.
Here is the second part:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
"After a few plays I got married.  My husband, of course did not have any
objections to my playing.  He was educated in Paris and was very familiar
with theater.  He encouraged me and sometimes came behind the stage, but 
later on as if he got assurance, he came no more!

The girl of yesterday and mother of our today's cinema slowly moved from 
theater to radio, so everyone could hear her voice: "And then the late MehrtAsh
took us to the radio station and we did live plays, night stories, poetry 
reading and also some special programs for Nu Rouz which were very joyful and 
beautiful."


Radio was an excellent experience for her, but it was her turn to play in the
movies.  The quiet waves of radio were replaced by stormy waves of cinema.
Everything started with the "Storms of Life" and she was to motherly 
encounter it.  She accepted the role of Mother in that film.

"I started with "TufAn-e Zendegy" (Storms of life), and played with ZhAleh Alav,
Eventhough I was very young, they gave the role of "Mother" because they were
short of actresses at the time, and with my suitable physical look, I played 
the "Mother" conveniently.  During all these years I have 'felt' my role, and 
encountered it in a natural way. If one does not have the feeling for the role,
she can not play it right."

Chehreh AzAd continues and talks about the first actresses who played with her
and about the first experiences:  "The first of the women was Miss LortA.  
We played in Naghsh-e Zan Dar Ejtema' (Role of women in society).  Then there
were 2 sisters, Hellen and Nouri.  Also there were late Parkhideh, PourAn 
ShApouri and Miss Iran Daftari.  Some time later with the National Arts Group
we went to Paris to play Alounak (The Hut??). It was a success.  Those days 
there were few experts behind the scenes.  We had to use rather heavy makeups.
The material in the makeups were so terrible that once my face got infected.
The technicians would always come late, and I had to complain to them all the 
time."

"I am not a patient person at all.  If the play were to start at 8, I would be
ready at 6.  As a result I always became the subject of practical jokes by 
friends and colleagues.  Ones there was this gentleman who was supposed to
enter the stage with me. The time was running out and I was looking for him
but he was hiding behind some decorations.  Later after the play he told me
that he was joking with me.  He would repeat this every time before the play,
and despite I knew that was his game, I would still be worried until he would
show up.

TO BE CONTINUED.....
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: samiri@encore.com (Soheila Amiri)
Subject: Re: Let's make a deal
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:24:50 GMT
Keywords: Hot to make money!

mojgan@orion.oac.uci.edu (Mojgan Bonakdar) writes:

>After the last big earthquake in San Francisco there was some
>guy on the corner selling t-shirst that had "I survived the
>S.F. Quake" printed on it.

>And after the L.A. riots, it was probably the same guy who
>moved down south and was selling t-shirts that had "I survived
>the L.A. riots" printed on it.

>Mojgan.

And sure enough, after the hurricane Andrew, there was plenty of
T Shirts being sold saying, "I survided Andrew".  What was a big
hit though, was similar T shirts that read, "The heck with Andrew,
I survived Rick Sanchez" and for majority of you who don't know
who this fellow is, he is a local news caster with a style all of
his own and it seems like there is not a single soul down here
who hasn't been "touched" by his style of reporting.  Given the
love and affections ;-) people feel for this fellow, the T shirts
sold like hot cakes.

Soheila
From: abbasa@ul.ie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Khomainie's Tomb Exploded
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:55:24 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland


Alaika Lanatullah, O' munafiqin.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: massoud@chemteca.sdsu.edu (Massoud Ajami)
Subject: Re: Masoud's pathetic response
Organization: San Diego State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:55:37 GMT

In article <28600028@hplred.HP.COM> moussavi@hplred.HP.COM (Farshid Moussavi) writes:
>From: moussavi@hplred.HP.COM (Farshid Moussavi)
>Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:47:16 GMT
>Subject: Masoud's pathetic response
>In Article 13372 in soc.culture.iranian, massoud@chemteca.sdsu.edu (Massoud Ajami) has the gall to write:
>
>>Mahin Khanom:
>
>
>Seems like you are a little frustrated yourself!  Is this how you 
>answer all women you don't like?  Your sleazy sexist attitude 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>stinks, and it is YOU who have taken the joke too far, buster! 

I never saw a sugar that I didn't like!
Playing with people's faith ain't a joke!

>you mean for yourself, right?  You better learn some manners, and you should
>be ashamed of yourself!  People like you allow us all to see the mentality 
>behind the regime's policy of raping young girls before they are executed.
>What a bunch of pathetic bastards!

I left Iran in 1975, now people know how youre kind get their information.
The rest weren't worthy to replay!

>
>May all your dairy products rot,
>
>Agha Javad
>(We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone)

[Price subject to change according to customer's attitude]

Peace and Prosperity!
  ---==< 110 >==---
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: ebrahim@ee.umanitoba.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: MKO and Al Gore
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:22:52 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada


   
      Last week there was an article in sci. Later I found another article
in talk.politics.mideast which can be helpful to understand the meaning of
the first. Here's the first articl:

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: saied@cwis.unomaha.edu (Saied*)
Subject: Senior Mojahedin Meets with Senator Gore
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 01:50:31 GMT
 
I just learned that Mr. Mohammad Mohaddessin, member of
the Executive Committee of the People's Mojahedin of Iran
and Head of the organization's International Relations
Department met with Senator Al Gore, Democratic vice
presidential nominee. The objective of Mr. Mohaddessin's
visit, very briefly, was to explain the present situation
in Iran as well as to acquaint Mr. Gore with the goals of
the National Council of the Resistance.

########################################################################

      And here's the second one:

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From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: casualties during the Intifadah
Date: 10 Oct 92 21:10:38 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver


      [ the main obody of article deleted ]


	"In eight years as a member of the House (1977 to 1985)
	and seven years in the Senate, Gore has compiled one of
	the strongest pro-Israel records on the Hill.  He has a
	100 percent record on foreign aid.  As a member of the
	Senate Armed Services Committee, he has been a champion
	of U.S.-Israeli strategic cooperation."
				Douglas Bloomfield,
			Washington Jewish Week, July 16, 1992

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        So much for the ex-anti-Imperialists!!!
From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: shAhrokh, tabibe mahin!
Date: 7 Oct 1992 17:37:25 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: handel

In article <1992Oct7.034519.10001@wuecl.wustl.edu> seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian) writes:
>In article <ld4dsaINN7do@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi) writes:
>
>>but it would be really, truly, unbelievably embarrassing for you, gods
>>gift to adabiyaate farsi, if a mute like me could bring proof that mort, 
>>mortuary and amorzesh share the same root, wouldnt it?
>>
>>how about a bet:  ill bring the proof, and you post this on sci:
>
>mage man mesle to mo'tAd-o ghomArbAzam? marde hessAbi! age chizi tou
>chante-at boud, hamoun rouze avval gofteh boudi !!!
>But I strongly recommend that you bring your proof, because it will be a nice
>experience for all readers to see what kind of Charlatan you are.
>
>Seyyed.
>
>p.s. before faking a new quote, I suggest that you consult someone who knows
>     a little more farsi, because this time I won't spare my time to have
>     fun with your words! It's recreation time!

youre *still* chickening out seyed.  do we, or dont we have a deal?
dont get all bent out of shape, its a simple yes/no question.

i'll bring credible proof, you post the quote i included earlier.

a simple 'youre on' is all thats needed...

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