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From: POSTMASTER@MC.DUKE.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: SCSI cards
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:44:24 GMT
Organization: Duke University Medical Center, Durham NC, USA

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From: bbean@pro-nsdapple.cts.com (Bruce Bean)
Subject: Re: Apple Stupidity (was Re: Where does ProDOS come from?)
Organization: ProLine [pro-nsdapple] - North San Diego Apple Users Group
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 09:13:28 PDT

>(Suggestion to Andy Nicholas for the next version of ShrinkIt:  how
>about prohibiting the creation of disk archives of ProDOS disks?
>It'll prevent the terminal stupidity of some people who like to use
>disk archives for everything instead of file archives (which is what
>you should always use for ProDOS volumes).)
>
>  _/_   Scott Alfter                         Internet:
sknkwrks@cs.unlv.edu
> / v \  Call the Skunk Works BBS today!
>(IIe (  (702) 894-9619 300-14400 V.32bis Apple II/IBM/Star Trek/Aerospace
> \_^_/  Ask me about SoftDAC--digital audio for your IIe/IIc! AII Forever!
 
 This would be well and good except for the case when you wish to Shrink a
GS/OS forked file.  A disk archive is the only way to do that from Prodos
8.
From: POSTMASTER@MC.DUKE.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Blue Helmet crashing...
Date: 12 Sep 92 13:31:25 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Duke University Medical Center, Durham NC, USA

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From: sknkwrks@unlv.edu (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: Epson-compatible printers are icky... NOT
Organization: Skunk Works Software Co.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 08:24:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.115416.10696@cco.caltech.edu> toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes:
>sknkwrks@unlv.edu (Scott Alfter) writes:
>
>>Epson-compatible printers are icky...you can't get a 72x72 or 144x144
>>dpi matrix out of 'em for graphics.  I tried plugging one into my
>
>Aww... what's wrong with 60x60, 120x120, 180x180, & 360x360 ?  AWGS figures
>out from the Page Setup that it's using slightly better resolution, and it
>adjusts everything. 72 dpi is not God.

Depends on what you're doing.  If you're doing DTP, 1 point = 1/72 ".
That matches up nicely with bitmap fonts, whose sizes are set in some
integer number of points.  At 144 dpi, you can simply pick a
double-size font...but you already knew that.

Last time I checked (and this was a LONG time ago), you can't get
60/120/etc dpi vertically out of Epsons anyway...as I recall, you can
set vertical line spacing at n/216" (72*3=216).  You're stuck with a
non-square dot matrix.

  _/_   Scott Alfter                             Internet: sknkwrks@cs.unlv.edu
 / v \  Call the Skunk Works BBS today!                      Fidonet: 1:209/765
(IIe (  TEMPORARILY OFFLINE    Apple II/IBM
 \_^_/  Ask me about SoftDAC--digital audio for your IIe/IIc! Apple II Forever!
From: bird@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (j.l.walters)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: UtilityWorks
Date: 11 Sep 92 02:15:20 GMT
Organization: AT&T

From article <1992Sep8.045114.7015@nuscc.nus.sg>, by ltchean@rambutan.iss.nus.sg (lim thye chean):
> 
> After reading GS+ about UtilityWorks and UtilityLaunch (it says, throw away
> Finder 6.0!), I decided to try out the 2 programs. Unfortunately, I can only 
> find UtilityLaunch at the used-to-be tybalt.caltech.edu (is this the latest
> version for 6.0?), but NOT UtilityWorks.
> 
> Anybody know where can I get the latest versions of both programs?

Simply send in the shareware fee and he will send you the disks. He
sent them to me even though I told him I had the latest version. Good
thing he did, there are additional files on the disk he sends you.

(I'd mention that you don't have a copy just to be sure.)

BTW, I didn't order UtilityLaunch since I'm a dyed-in-the-wool ProSEL
person. After the GS+ article I'm willing to reconsider!
-- 


				Joe Walters att!ihlpw!bird   
				IH 2A-227 (708) 979-9527
From: jimmys@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Subject: Re: GSHK 1.0.6 - NASTY bug zapped my disk!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Reply-To: jimmys@ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 13 Sep 92 04:03:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.020242.6361@jlc.mv.com> scot@jlc.mv.com (Scot Salmon) writes:
>This may have already been posted a zillion times, but since I don't remember
>it...
>
>I found a very nasty bug in GSHK tonight. I had an archive on a disk (not
>my HD) and GSHK on my HD. I double-clicked to archive to open it, which
>worked fine. Turned out the archive contained a disk, so I took out of
>of my spiffy new blank disks and told it to extract the archive onto
>my 3.5" AppleDisk (what's the device...AppleDisk3.5A or something). Anyway,
>it said, "Format this disk?" (because it was unformatted - a very reasonable
>question, really), and I said, go ahead. A few moments later, it was
>formatted. Now GSHK prompts me to put in the disk with the archive on it,
>assumably so it can read the archive into memory. However, it doesn't
>stop there; with no further prompting, it just starts writing to the
>disk with the archive on it (overwriting the archive in the process)!
>
I think you can only do what you tried to do with 2 3.5 Drives, since
ShrinkitGS does not/cannot distinquish between source and target disk.
It's unfortunate you had to learn about this the hard way, I remember
there was a discussion on this awhile back on a local BBS.

Maybe the next incarnation of ShrinkIt (with Self-extracting archive)
will solve this problem.

>How annoying! And it couldn't even finish extracting, since it overwrote
>itself and when it needed to read the next chunk, I didn't have it!
>
>ARGH.
>
>--
>                                          - Scot Salmon (scot@jlc.mv.com)
>

Jimmy


--
Jimmy Shaw			 RamFAST, ZipGSX and 6.0... Apple II Forever!
jimmys@ics.uci.edu
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From: tonyh@pro-scat.cts.com (Tony Hamaoui)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Should I buy this //c?
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:30:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ProLine [pro-scat] St. Petersburg, Florida.

Thats a great price.  If your looking for a printer to go with that I      
will sell you an imagewriter II for $200 including shipping. 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jamesg@rucs2.sunlab.cs.runet.edu (James Gillespie)
Subject: wizardry help needed
Organization: Radford University
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 05:08:46 GMT

i am stuck on Knight of Diamonds.  I need to know what the answer is
to the riddle of the sphinx.

Thank you in advance!!
From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Weather.shk...
Date: 13 Sep 92 16:54:47 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <9209131455.AA26764@apple.com> FORDE@UV6.EGLIN.AF.MIL ("ERIC S FORD") writes:
>I downloaded the Weather.shk file and had the same problems - neither
>flavor of shrinkit will recognize the file.  Subsequently, I used a block
>editor to look at this file and another shk file.  The normal shk file
>started with the word NUFILE but the Weather.shk file had a stream of
>several bytes preceding this. Apparently it was processed by some other
>program which adds the additional info and makes it unreadable by Shrinkit.

Hmmm, sounds like it could be the famous Macbinary header that some
MAC comm program adds to files. I have a program that strips them
from GIFs, wonder if it works for other files?

 
>Eric S. Ford

Rich

payner@netcom.com
From: ralpho@cse.fau.edu (Ralph P Carpenter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Appleworks Translator
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:00:20 GMT
Reply-To: ralpho@acc.fau.edu (Ralph P Carpenter)
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

In article <9209080056.aa10274@generic.UUCP> taob@terranet.cts.com (Brian Tao) writes:
>    Check out the ProDOS File System Manager (FSM) on the Mac as well.
>This init file lets the Mac read ProDOS disks directly (although it
>won't do any file translation on its own).  You can skip the AFE step
>when reading your //c files, but files created by the Mac (even plain
>ASCII files) won't be readable on the //c.  For some reason the ProDOS
>FSM always makes forked files which are unreadable under ProDOS 8.

I found that if I Saved from an Mac application to an HFS volume, then
Finder-copyed the document to a ProDOS volume, the resulting file was not
forked, and was usable under ProDOS 8.  Directly saving a file from a
Mac application to a ProDOS volume /did/ result in a forked, unusable
file.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Subject: Re: SCSI cards
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 10:33:12 GMT

ericm@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Eric Mulholland) writes:

>Anyone else besides me hate what CVtech did to the menubar in the 3.0 roms?
>Inversing the first letter like they did is ugly!

They do it to make it obvious what the command-key equivalents are. Notice
that some of them aren't the first letter.
[old geezer voice] back when all we had was applesoft, people did that sort
of thing all the time, AND WE LIKED IT!

I like it, actually.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
From: tcomtaob@BLUFFS.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Doin' that HFS thing...
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:30:38 GMT
Organization: The Internet

The following revelation escaped Seth D. Kadesh's lips:
> 
> BTW, Mac teach documents are NOT the same as those created on the GS.
> After saving my document (on my GS) as a text file, and then loading
> it into AWGS, and saving it as an AWGS word processor file, I was able
> to load it into MWII.  Of course, MWII doesn't save in AWGS format, so
> I have to save in MW5.0 format, and then read it in with Teach (on my
> GS), ad infinitum.....

    This doesn't really solve the problem, but the TeachReader Finder
extension will at least give you the text of a Macintosh Teach file if
you set it with the Apple IIGS TeachText filetype ($50/$5445, I think).
It will give you a couple errors about not being able to read the resource
fork of the file, but it will still display the text of the file for you.
-- 
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Dept. of Exobiology   | :::::> generic!terranet!taob@zoo.toronto.edu <:::::
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From: jpenne@ee.ualberta.ca (Jerry Penner)
Subject: Simulated Dithering
Keywords: oops
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 06:47:39 GMT

I responsed to Paul Benson's followup before John McLean's original
made it here, and I now see what John needs the algorithm for, so my
guesses about why he needed it may seem kind of foolish.  Just warding
off any flames before they happen... :)

-- 
Jerry Penner   jpenne@ee.ualberta.ca   Try a 1-line .sig today.
From: markj@nuchat.sccsi.com (Mark Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: SyQuest removable drives on the GS?
Date: 7 Sep 92 02:29:53 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

What is the going price for a Syquest Mechanism?  I have a Tulin case with Room
to spare inside, and would like to put either the 44 or 88 meg mechanism in the 
box.  Complete drives in Mac World are any where from 499 for the 44 meg to 899
for the 88 meg...

Does anyone sell just the mechanism?


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From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Subject: Re: System Bad: C000005 (anyone know?)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 02:06:12 GMT

schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz) writes:

>So, check and see if this computer has an accelerator card.  If so, remove
>the card and replace the original CPU chip and re-run the diagnostic.

Gaah. You don't have to remove the accelerator. Use the Zip control software
(which should already be on the HD if it has) or the Zippy P8 program to
"disable" the Zip before running the self test. That should also fix the
problem, because it depends on whether the accelerator is ACTIVE -- taking
the whole board out is a pretty physical way to render it inactive.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jpenne@ee.ualberta.ca (Jerry Penner)
Subject: Re: Modula-2 for the Apple IIGS
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 06:09:09 GMT

behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens) writes:

>akostur@fraser.sfu.ca (Andre John Kostur) writes:

>The latter. Both of them. I do not know who will distribute the German Modula-2
>in the US, or how it compares to the ORCA Modula-2.

>It is apparently available, and the guys that did it had some benchmarks that
>showed it drowning ORCA/Pascal ;-).

Hmm.  Sounds promising.  In what ways did it drown Orca/Pascal,
though?  Compilation speed?  Speed of generated code?

>P.S.: As for C++ ... couldn't we just port the front-end? Might be that AT&T
>would go berserk, but what the heck ... it's just the lowly // ;-) Just
>kidding.

Just port GNU g++!  :-) (times a million)  Actually, porting gcc would
be quite the challenge since you'd have to totally rewrite the code
generator as it's made for machines with a reasonable number of
(fairly orthogonal) registers.  It has been ported to the 386/486 but
there are a couple more people using them than IIgs's.  :-)

Actually, more than anything, I'd like to see a C compiler that
compiles fast and produces good code.  Other than C++, I don't really
need to use anything other than C and assembly.  And you're not going
to get a fast C++ compiler if you can't get a fast C compiler...
-- 
Jerry Penner   jpenne@ee.ualberta.ca   Try a 1-line .sig today.
From: usr3947a@TSO.UC.EDU (Kenneth Wronkiewicz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Music program wanted!
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:17:55 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I have The Music Studio 1.2, but somehow it got screwed, and now it doesn't work
does anyone have a copy i could buy off them or could anyone sugest a 
replacment?  i would like something that could at least read Music Studio format
preferebly noistracker also....... noistracker is just not a good music
development tool...... wouldn't it be nice if there was a amiga mod EDITOR as 
whell as player?
BTW: soniqTRACKER 0.52 works only once before i need to unpack it again.....
why? any bug fixes? more recent versions? contacts with the author? i have a 
internet address for him, but the mailer puked.....
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don't you wish that everyone wrote for rom 3 gs's? a ton of good looking stuff
won't run on my rom 3 machine......
From: fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: more about my proterm...
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:28:13 PST
Organization: BBS

The exact error message when I used Zmodem to transfer a file was "got
subpacket instead of heard ((xx/xxxx)" and "CRC does not match data".  These
two errors would just repeat themselve over and over again.

I think the problem is that I don't have the correct driver.  Anyone know if
insync have a special driver for the Zoom v.32bis?  If you happen to have a
copy, can you send me it?

Thanx.

frank m. lin
fmlin@terapin.com
cyprus systems
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: meekins@anaconda.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tim Meekins)
Subject: Re: Fast 65816
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:39:44 GMT

In article <19920914.070916.28@almaden.ibm.com> Pauley@vnet.ibm.com (Paul Benson) writes:
>What is the fastest 65816 one can buy?  Discussion on GEnie leads me to
>believe that it is 12MHz (14 MHz is available at voltages > 5V).  Are
>people who are upgrading getting the 12MHz chip and pumping up the voltage?
>Or are they just putting in a 14MHz xtal and running on the edge?
>
>Pauley
>GEnie: P.Benson1

Sanyo has developed a new chip that runs at higher speeds w/o needing
extra voltages or cooling systems :) Anyways, I put a engineering sample
Sanyo in my TWGS and I'm running it at 13.75 MHz with absolutely no problems.
I've not even tried to 'crank' the speed on it yet...though I'm tempted
to try 15 MHz if I can find some faster cache RAMS < 35ns at a good price.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Subject: Re: Help with Epson and GS/OS (was Re: Epson-compatible printers are icky... NOT)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 10:58:12 GMT

seah@ee.rochester.edu (David Seah) writes:

>The problem is that every GS/OS application I have thinks that my paper is
>about an inch longer than it really is, so everything prints past the bottom
>margin and formfeeds.  The printer and the application then get out of sync

Do they drift continually, or is it something you can adjust before you start
printing? I've found that the natural Top-of-Form position for the printer is
a couple lines further into the page than, say, Teach is expecting. I'll admit
I haven't tried to print many multi-page graphics with it, but I can get decent
draft text out of it and nice one-page graphics and that's the bulk of what I
need.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
From: douglash@pro-ace.cts.com (Douglas Heimburger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: For Sale: Modem
Date: 12 Sep 92 22:41:24 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ProLine [pro-ace]

For Sale: Datalink modem - 300 to 2400 baud, internal, can be upgraded to
have a FAX or MNP-5, internal, almost new.  $60 plus shipping.
Send E-Mail **ONLY** to douglash@pro-ace.cts.com <<Internet>>
                     or douglash@pro-ace         <<Proline >>

Thank You, Douglas Heimburger
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: buescher@betwixt.ugcs.caltech.edu (Brent Joseph Buescher)
Subject: New user questions
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 22:44:09 GMT

I picked up an Apple II+ w/ 48k, single disk drive, parallel
card, and monitor this summer. (It was so cheap I couldn't 
pass it by).  I recently added a second disk drive I got for
a song.  Anyway, I hadn't messed with Apple IIs since
junior high so I've been catching up.  I bought a copy of
InCider yesterday so I know some sources for Apple II stuff,
but I still have lots of questions.

First of all- is there a comp.sys.apple2 FAQ sheet?

Second, what are the best sources for the following
hardware:

"experimenter" (blank or breadboard) cards
an 80 column card
a 16k language card
a serial card

Furthermore, what is out there in terms of additional memory
expansion and hardware accelerators?  Though my gut feeling is that
they're not worth it on a II+ unless you really really want
or need them, what kind of performance increases are we talking
about?

Just out of curiosity, are there SCSI cards out there that work 
with the II+?  I guess the more general question is "What are
the issues involved in cards working on a II+, IIe, or IIgs?"
I'm aware of the compatability issues in software.

What documentation is still available in print for the system, and what
is the best source?

Can I run ProDOS before I get my fingers on a language card?
What is absoulute "must have" freeware?
Is there a free or inexpensive word processor I can use with my machine?
How do I tell if software on the archives will work on my machine?
Is there software for IBMs to read and write Apple II 5.45" disks?

Thanks

Brent
buescher@phys.uidaho.edu
From: snakey@pro-iisysops.cts.com (David Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Deskwriter vs. Deskjet
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:53:03 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ProLine [pro-iisysops]


        Yes, it is a good idea to use the Deskjet from prodos 8, BUT, the
Deskwriter just plugs right into the GS with your existing IW2 cable and it
goes at 57.6kbps, which does wonders for the printing speed.  This is why I
got a Deskwriter.  Hint: With Harmonie and a Deskwriter, in the print
dialog box, choose to have a lower resolution than 300x300 when you print
pictures.  Believe it or not, they come out BETTER this way!!!  I'm
serious.  
 
                                          /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\:>-
                                          Snakey
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: rnbowen@eos.ncsu.edu (RONNIE NEIL BOWEN)
Subject: Information about ][+
Organization: NCSU Project Eos
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 01:17:14 GMT


Hello everyone,

I recently bought an Apple ][+ at an auction for a friends daugther.
I've been away from the Apple world for several years and was amazed to
discover that Apple can now run IBM software (through the PC Transporter.)

Anyway, I have several questions about this ][+ and was hoping that some of
you might be able to help.

0.  What is a language card?  This has one in slot 0.

1.  What is an Applicard?  This has one in slot 5.

2.  How much memory do I have?  There are 23 TMS4116-20NL chips on the
    motherboard and 9 E02296-052,-049,-050 D416e -z chips on the lang card.

3.  I've heard that Apple Software is now Public Domain.  Is this true?

4.  This this has 2 Apple II disk drives, but I have no software, not even
    and Operating System.  Which OS should I use and where can I get one?

5.  I also got a printer.  Imagewriter II, I think.  But there is no card
    to connect it to.  Where can I find one?  Applied Engineering has a 
    serial card for $119 but that sure seems steep, especially since a
    serial card for a PC costs about $15.

6.  Where can I find software for this thing?

I really appreciate any help you can give.  I'm trying to get things set up
for my friend, as she knows nothing about computers.  Her daughter uses 
Apple IIe's at school.  It would be nice if she could "get into" computers
at an early age.

Thanks again.
Ronnie
From: synthgenius@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: IIgs telecom programs...
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:45:48 GMT
Reply-To: SYNTHGENIUS@oak.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: Center for Instructional and Research Computing Activities

>Ah, I also almost forgot, there is GNO's "telcom" program as well.
>Doesn't use the desktop as you've indicated that you want, but it runs
>under GNO so you can suspend your telcom session and go do other
>things and return...quite the useful ware, and it supports vt100.
>
>
>-- 
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>GEnie : K.MOCK     			Net : mock@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu
>"Don't worry about the world ending today, it's already tomorrow in
> Australia..."  					      - CMS

Cool, does that mean you have a jobs running in the background via this
'telecom' program? If so does that mean we can transfer files while we
work which was ONLY available through AppleWorks GS until now?


Sg
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