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From: case@infonode.ingr.com (Bill Case)
Subject: Re: Very expensive cables
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:56:20 GMT

In article <JEFF.92Sep8153811@dsp.sps.mot.com> jeff@dsp.sps.mot.com (Jeff Enderwick) writes:
>
>>Snakes aside,  the magical may be bunk,  but I would believe that you
>>can make a cable  that sounds different,  and then market the difference
>>as somehow "Better".
>
>How? 
>


I believe George Tice has some type of magical treatment....uh :-)

If you can change the response in some way then you can:

	a) make some systems sound better by compensating for their 
	   other weakness.
	b) convince some people that different = better.
	c) simply appeal to some people who like the change you've
	   wrought.

If you use something with an long shelf life,  small R&D,   huge
price per pound,  and a large number of potential customers (so if 1/500
of 1% "buy" your gimmick  YOU'RE RICH!), then you can have a pretty nice 
business.   Wire is perfect for this!
 	
I'm not qualified  to answer the "How" ""question,  but various wires are
reputed to be "warm" (attenuated high frequencies??),  "zippy" (exagerated
highs??),  etc.  Just with my limited experience,  brass sounded 
different on the Maestro.  Less brassy.  Fooling around with high-gauge
solid core,  there seemed to be an attenuation of the bass,  which was
noticeable on something such as KEF 104/2's.  I imagine it could all
be very system dependent.....or nothing at all. 

Bill "do you have anything larger in blue interconnects?" Case
From: tony@cns.nyu.edu (Tony Movshon)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Advice on scratched CD
Date: 12 Sep 92 21:09:32 GMT
Reply-To: tony@cns.nyu.edu
Organization: New York University

I have a CD with a visible gouge that causes skipping for about one minute of
the program material. Before I throw it away, would anyone care to suggest any
kill-or-cure methods for restoring it?
---
					Tony Movshon

Internet:  movshon@nyu.edu

US Mail:   Howard Hughes Medical Institute
	   Center for Neural Science
	   New York University
	   4 Washington Place, room 809
	   New York, NY 10003
Phone:	   (212) 998-7880
Fax:	   (212) 995-4183
From: rbs@uk.ac.ed.aisb (Robert Scott)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Dolby Pro Logic in Music and Vidio Tapes anyone ?????
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:08:41 GMT
	<1992Sep14.180029.177@bmerh85.bnr.ca> <YehUCEL0BwwtJkmUcs@transarc.com>
Reply-To: rbs@aisb.ed.ac.uk
Organization: Dept AI, Edinburgh University, Scotland


In article <YehUCEL0BwwtJkmUcs@transarc.com> Craig_Everhart@transarc.com writes:

   ``Dolby Pro-Logic'' is a decoding technology, not an encoding/decoding
   technology.  ``Dolby Surround'' is the companion encoding technology. 
   It can be decoded, to varying tastes and abilities, with several
   decoders, including Dolby Pro-Logic.  Source material will be marked
   with the encoding technology used, not any of the collection of possible
   decoders.

   There is material in non-surround-encoded stereo sources that will be
   used as ``surround'' information by various decoders.  Perhaps what the
   poster (Shiv Naimpally) meant is that it can be a mistake to use Dolby
   Pro-Logic decoding on material that isn't surround-encoded. 

I see so tapes that have the Dolby Surround logo
are surround encoded.

In that case what is the difference between Dolby Pro-Logic
and simple Dolby Surround decoders?
What does the Pro-Logic bit stand for?


--
Rob Scott
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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: palane@iastate.edu (Paul A. Lane)
Subject: Re: Where to buy DAT machines?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:52:21 GMT

In <18k0luINNekp@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> al672@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Doksu Moon) writes:


>I'm interested in buying a DAT player, but I seem to have a 
>difficult time finding information on the machines themselves
>and where to buy them.  I would be very happy if someone pointed
>toward some resources so that I can start finding out about the
>different models.  

>I've heard very nice things about the Panasonic SV-3700.  Can
>anyone tell me more about the machine, where they bou;
>bought it and how much they paid for it.

>Doksu Moon
>al672@freenet-in-c.cwru.edu
>-- 

I recall seeing some advertisements in Audio some time ago (they might
still be advertising, one to two years is the time frame) about a DAT
store which should be a source for DAT recorders and tapes. They're out
in California somewhere. I'll check an old copy and get back to you.

Paul
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: jeff@dsp.sps.mot.com (Jeff Enderwick)
Subject: paradigm speakers - opinions?
Organization: Motorola DSP Compilers
Distribution: rec
Date: 6 Sep 92 13:55:11


I'm thinking of getting a pair of paradims - any opinions? Specifically,
I'm looking at the 7se2, 9se2, and 11se2. Also what are your opinions of 
two mail order houses - BJ Audio and ABC? I'd rather buy from a dealer, but
the price difference is huge. $579 vs $389 for the 7's. 

	Jeff Enderwick
	jeff@dsp.sps.mot.com
From: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: "Monster Cable" comments wanted
Date: 10 Sep 92 10:59:07 GMT
Reply-To: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Annapolis, MD

I recently read an article in Success Magazine about the growth of a
company that makes Monster Cable.  It is touted as a product which
greatly improves system sound.  To my mind, it may have lower resistance
than traditional speaker cable, but I don't see how that can make a
big difference.  I'd like to hear, via e-mail, from any one experienced
with this stuff.  I'll post a summary later.  Thanks in advance.

   /|/| /||)|/  /~ /\| |\|)[~|)/~   |   Everyone's entitled to MY opinion.
  / | |/ ||\|\  \_|\/|_|/|)[_|\\_|  |      goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil
========Imagination is more important than knowledge. - Albert Einstein=======
From: exulme@exu.ericsson.se (Michael Englund, T-TDT, x0996)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Bose AM-7
Date: 9 Sep 92 03:32:56 GMT
Reply-To: exulme@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.


I have never ever listened to any Bose component (warning, flame bait) that sounded even acceptably good
(I haven't listened to many more than a few loudspeakers and car stereos, though).
I'm not surprised to hear other netters speaking in favor of the Cambridge Soundworks
Ensemble. However, I cannot understand why people love the Ensemble so much either. I
fell for all the sweet talk and went ahead and bought a set last year. I was not
impressed. I moved the speakers around looking for deeper clearer base but no matter
what I did, all I got was a annoying rumble. The satellites were a little bit better
with a fairly tight sound (probably due to the compact, solid cabinets). I did not
like the way they "trapped" voices inside. It was always easy to locate the actual
position of the speakers (no, I did not connect them out of phase). I had a chance to run them in parallell with a set of Infinity
infinitessimal four, which a thought were superior to the Ensemble. I returned the
Ensemble and bought the Infinity set (satellites and active bass module)

I should be clear, however, that the Ensemble is a very inexpensive speaker (the
Infinity set is about twice the price of the Ensemble and the Bose almost as much as the Infinity, can you believe it). I might agree the Ensemble
is good value for the money, but not necessarily that it's a good speaker (just my own opinion, of course). 

Actually I'm not happy with the Infinity speakers either. The satellites are a
little bit to resonant, and the bass module not smooth enough. I about to upgrade
to Infinity Modulus satellites and bass module ($3000 together). I hope this
will satisfy me, or I'll just cut my ears off and spend all the spare time (limited) with my camera, or something, instead. 

I'm interested to know if somebody has any negative experiences with the Modulus.
I know, I know.... we all hate subwoofers (even the term is pathetic :-) ), but I
just can't seem get anything else to work in more than one room (I move sometimes, don't you??). With an active bass module it's easier (I think) to tailor the sound.
(don't mention parametric equalizers, I cannot stop tinkering with them. They drive me
nuts). OK, OK I'm getting tired now (yawn) let's stop blabbing.

Please, let me know what you think about the Modulus

Best regards,
Michael

---
Michael L. Englund
Ericson Network Systems, Software Verification Techniques
Richardson, TX  75081, USA
Internet:  exulme@exu.ericsson.se   phone:  +1-214-997-0996
From: ngardner@acorn.co.uk (Neil Gardner)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Lexicon surround sound processors
Date: 14 Sep 92 08:29:30 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England


G'day all,

Having spent a pleasant day at the Penta Hi-Fi show in London I have some
questions which someone maybe able to help me with.

After a short absence, the Lexicon Digital Surround Processors have made a
reappearance in the UK.  Previously distributed by FWO Bauch, they are now
being imported by Celestion.  What with the recent announcement regarding
Adcom, it would seem that Celestion are branching into distribution in a big
way.

Unfortunately it would seem that the prices have risen quite significantly. 
Considering the strength of sterling against the $ (or should I say, the
general weakness of the $, since sterling is actually rather weak too), it
seems rather strange that the price has risen some 33% since I was
considering the CP2 in August '91.

So, what is the price of the the CP1 and CP2 in the US.  The retail price of
the CP2 is #1000 sterling, and currently only available from Hi-Fi
Experience in Tottenham Court Road, London.  I do not have a price for the
CP1, but based upon a similar uplift to the previous UK price, I would guess
about #1500 sterling.  These equate to $2,000 and $3,000 respectively, which
would allow me to import some serious US equipment.

1.  How much do the CP1 and CP2 typically retail for in the States?

2.  Any recommended US dealers who have experience with exports,
    particularly to the UK?

3.  Does anyone know if the Lexicon processors are fitted with
    multi-standard power supplies?  If so, are they auto sensing?

4.  Finally, what does the CP3 offer?  I understand that it is THX
    certified, but what else does it offer which the CP1 does not?

Thanks in advance,

--Neil
ngardner@acorn.co.uk
From: des@des.unet.com (Dave Swanson)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Alon speakers by Acarian Systems
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:54:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: N.E.T. Access Products Division, Santa Barbara

Jason Reiser writes:
>Have you heard the Alon II's yet?  I didn't even know they existed.
>
>				- Jason

Yes, I heard the Alon II, but only for about 15 minutes and without my own
music.  The dealer had just received them and was "breaking them in"
(electronics: AR amp & preamp, Cal Audio CD player).
My first impression is the Alon II is very musical with good imaging and a
decent sound stage.  I did not listen to the Alon IV so I can't compare them.

	--dave
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: wkb@cbnews.cb.att.com (wm.keith.brummett)
Subject: Inverting buffer?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:21:58 GMT
Keywords: inverting buffer


    A lot of folks have been playing with buffered-volume-control preamps
    (a la Aunt Corey's) lately.  Most of the schematics I've seen show the
    buffer to be an op-amp configured for unity gain with no resistors in
    the input (R1) or feedback (R2) paths.  I.e.:

                   ______________
                  |     __       |
                  |____|  \      |
                       | -  \____|____  Out
        In  ___________| +  /
                       |__/

    My question is, can one make a similar unity-gain INVERTING buffer, e.g:

                   ______________
                  |     __       |
        In  ______|____|  \      |
                       | -  \____|____  Out
                   ____| +  /
                 _|__  |__/
                 ///

    I can't seem to find any example of such an inverting buffer anywhere
    (one using no resistors, that is).  And, a Radio Shack engineering book
    claims that with the resistors, the gain is (1 + R2/R1), whereas the
    gain of the similar non-inverting buffer is just (R2/R1).  If this is
    true, how does one make a unity-gain, inverting buffer?

    The driving force behind this is to make a buffered-volume-control
    preamp with both inverting and non-inverting outputs.  In addition to
    giving a polarity choice, it would simplify driving bridged-mono amps
    (IF the gain on both outputs is the same).  If the inverting buffer has
    to have resitors, and the gain equation is different, I can just add the
    appropriate resitors to the non-inverting side to match.  But, I'd
    rather not use any resistors at all if I can get away with it.  Any
    clues?

    Also, on a completely unrelated note:  I think someone recently posted
    something about a shoppers' service on CompuServe that had decent prices
    on some good-quality audio equipment.  Could some kind soul send me some
    e-mail on how I can get more info on this?

    Thanks much!   -- Keith

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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: finnegan@invader.navo.navy.mil (Kenneth Finnegan)
Subject: CD Changer Shuffle Programs
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-24970]: invader.navo.navy.mil
Reply-To: finnegan@navo.navy.mil
Organization: Grumman Data Systems	
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:21:57 GMT

Sorry for the ambiguous title, but I'm interested in how
the various CD changers handle playing in "Random" or
"Shuffle" mode.  For example, the first changer I had,
a Pioneer cartridge, would play every song without
repeating a selection, and when every song on every disc
had been played, it would stop.

Now I have a Magnavox cartridge changer.  It seems to
play in a true random fashion, without keeping track of
songs it has already played.  Hence, occasionally, it
will play the same song twice in a row.  I hate that.
And then to add insult to injury, it will eventually
stop.  Now how in the hell does it know where to stop
if it plays everything randomly and doesn't keep track
of what it has already played?

Anyway, does this "feature" vary from manufacturer to
manufacturer, or can it vary in model lines from the
same manufacturer?  If it is specific to manufacturers,
could someone tell me which ones act like the Pioneer
I described above?

Thanks a lot....

Kenneth
finnegan@navo.navy.mil
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: pchi@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Eric Chi)
Subject: Recommendations needed for Speakers
Organization: SF-Bay Public-Access Unix
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 06:09:40 GMT

Hi, I am setting up a stereo system for the first time. After reading
the recent discussions about satellite speaker systems, I have some 
questions:

1. Are satellite speakers better than the more traditional 2 speaker system?
   I know one of the advantage for satellite speakers is they occupied less 
space. My price range is no more than $650.

2. Is surround sound better than the traditional 2 speaker system? 
Are satellite speakers good for surround sound?

3. Does anyone have any recommendations for the speakers?

4. Where is the best place to purchase these stereo components? Is mail
order a good source? Is original manufacturer's warranty necessary?

Thanks in advance.

Eric.

C
C
A

Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 23:41:24 -0400 
From: Brent Hayden Thomas <bt0y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Hi-Fi VCRs

Hi, I was just having a discussion with a friend of mine who claims that
hi-fi VCR can record audio superior to that of anything except DATs and
CDs.  For some reason I found this hard to believe considering all the
noise reduction standards available on high quality standard tape decks,
but he said it was pretty much common knowledge.

Is there any truth to this claim, and if so, how much of the fidelity is
lost by extending the recording time of the tape?

Any comments would be greatly appreciated since I have no idea where to
even begin to look something like that up.

Thanks,
Brent
From: philg@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Philip Greenspun)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: AES/EBU
Date: 6 Sep 92 22:00:21 GMT
Reply-To: philg@martigny.ai.mit.edu
Organization: M.I.T. Artificial Intelligence Lab.
In-reply-to: ebe+@pitt.edu's message of 5 Sep 92 14:35:34 GMT


In article <5515@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> ebe+@pitt.edu (Elmer Beachley) writes:

   Thanks for posting the AES/EBU and SPDIF info.  I'm particularly interested
   as I'm building a SPDIF optical to coaxial converter to interface to an
   Audiomedia II soundcard.

   I've got the Toslink (optical) receiver working and am  sending a 1v p-p,
   low = 0v, high= 1v to the soundcard which it seems to ignore.  Now, my
   "specs" on SPDIF are derived from net messages :-) so I'm wondering what
   might be going wrong.

   Specifically, does SPDIF need to see +0.5v (high) and -0.5v (low)?  Does
   it matter if the levels are greater than .5v, say +/- 5v?  I'm thinking
   maybe of using an RS422 driver feed off the Toslink receiver if I need
   both postivie and negative voltage swings.

I believe that SPDIF is 0.5V PEAK TO PEAK, thus 0.5V high and 0V low
(of course, since it is Manchester coded, polarity makes no
difference).

If you are sending a 1v p-p signal and your driver has a 75 ohm output
impedance, the 75 ohm termination of an SPDIF receiver should result
in a 0.5V p-p signal on the line.

You problem could be that your output impedance is too low.

Philip Greenspun
MIT
From: chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Polk Audio Monitors
Date: 7 Sep 92 18:02:24 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <92248.124148IO10046@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IO10046@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes:

>    I have a pair of Polk Monitor 5a.  I was wondering if I could
>replace the original tweeter with Polk silver dome tweeter?  Would
>I have to change the crossover as well?  Should I just invest in
>a new set of speakers?

If you intend to replace *any* speaker in a speaker system you run the
risk of putting in something that doesn't match the system.

Crossover changes may be needed,  the dispersion characteristice
should be considered, etc, etc........

All in all if premium performance is _not_ of a concern replace the
tweeters and listen to it.

If premium performance _is_ desired,  replace the tweeters after you
have determined that it is a "replacement" and exhibits the same input
impedance characteristics as does the original, etc (and the etc part
is a lot of information).

-- 
Chris Christensen                  The opinions I express are my own,
chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com            and sometimes they are wrong!
916-478-3419 FAX 916-478-3887      After all, I *AM* only human.
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: pinghann@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Ping Hann Wang)
Subject: Need information about TASCAM company and its "Portastudio 464"
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 19:09:35 GMT

My friend abroad is looking for the compact-size multi-track cassette recorder
"Portastudio 464" by TASCAM company. I trid to find TASCAM's 800 phone number
but failed. The only thing I know about TASCAM is that a preamp with multi-
headphone jacks in our music library is TASCAM's product, but that preamp was
manufactured bt TEAC in Japan. I wonder if TASCAM has some affilitation with
TEAC. Could someone out there give me the phone number of TSACAM or any audio
store carrying TASCAM's products in LA area?

Pinghann Wang
From: khaw@parcplace.com (Mike Khaw)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Jacked up CD prices again
Keywords: enoughs enough
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:24:26 GMT

In <lb9jj7INNf95@male.EBay.Sun.COM> checksix@flyboy.EBay.Sun.COM (Al Conte) writes:

>I read somewhere yesterday that the DC mougels have decided to, "take
>CDs to the next price plateu".  They will start with, "Garth Brooks",
>gag me big time becasuse he is the biggest sales producer currently.
>We have got to stop these greedy scumsuckers from raping society with
>these ridiculous price increases.  It is well known that CDs are far
>more cheaply produced than LPs were.  The price they were quoting
>seemed to be about $18.00.  What can we do?

Refuse to buy at those prices. Suppliers will charge whatever consumers
are *willing* to pay. I generally try to buy at so-called "sale" prices
at Tower, which range from $7.99 to $12.99, with most falling at $11.99.
Very rarely will I pay more than that.
--
Michael Khaw	Domain=khaw@parcplace.com, UUCP=...!uunet!parcplace!khaw
ParcPlace Systems, Sunnyvale, CA	PRODUCT INFO: info@parcplace.com
From: nan@ertou.ucsc.edu (Nan Ellman)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Headphones
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:15:09 GMT
Organization: /u/nan/.organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: ertou.ucsc.edu



One side of my Senheiser hd430 headphones stopped working recently. I
checked that it wasn't the cord that was the problem. Since the
headphones disconnect easily from the cord and the headset, I am
hoping I can just replace the single speaker instead of buying a whole
new set. 

Does anyone know if this is possible? Who makes Senheiser headphones?
They say they are made in Germany. Is there a US distributor I could
deal with? 

If replacing the part isn't feasible, can anyone recommend a good set
of headphones to replace them?


Thanks,

--
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Nan Ellman <nan@helios.ucsc.edu>
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From: checksix@flyboy.EBay.Sun.COM (Al Conte)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: CD pricing
Keywords: Lets take a look here
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:51:58 GMT
Reply-To: checksix@flyboy.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: flyboy.ebay.sun.com

In article <25792@castle.ed.ac.uk> mjo@castle.ed.ac.uk (M J O Clark) writes:
>If I were you, I would not complain about the phenomenal price of CDs
>($15...)
>
>I have been paying on average stirling #12 (~$24) for a few years, and
>would just LOVE to find a CD priced at stirling #7........:-)


Well, you may look at it as adeal where you are but, when a CD costs less than
$2.00 bucks to make and distribute, then there's some bigtime financial raping
going on.
Think back a hundred and some odd years:
The last time we americans got fed up with being kicked in the wallet, we trashed
your tea!!!!!!!
Lets have a CD burning party !!!


Al
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: frankel@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Adam Frankel)
Subject: Sony STRD-1090 question 
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:40:01 GMT


I have a question for Sony 1090 owners.  I just received mine last night.
It seems like the volume from the rear channels is very low.  Only in 'hall' 
mode can the rear speakers, which were 1 meter away and aimed at me, can get
loud enought to 'mask' teh front speakers.  I know they are not supposed to do
this in normal listening.  In ohter modes, the rear speakers output is barely 
audible (especially stadium mode).  My question is:  Is this as it should be, 
or is mine defective or out of adjustment?

Any input will be most appreaciated.  Please respond to: frankel@uhunix.