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From: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Wha happened?
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:25:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: ut-emx.81733
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <81575@ut-emx.uucp> nova@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jennifer Baughman) writes:
>In article <81567@ut-emx.uucp> aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink) writes:
>

>>P.S.:  Is it just me, or nothing really happening?  The X-teams have thus
>>	far accomplished nothing!
>
>Nothing's--no, that's not true.  Stryfe _does_ have Jean and Scott, the X-Teams
>_did_ kick X-Force's combined butts, and Professor X _is_ dying from the 
>technovirus.  Business as usual.


	Well, the VILLANS are getting things done.  The heros are still
clueless!


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From: v106qjh9@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (THE HAT)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Alex & Lorna, or a very Sinister child....
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:54:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct11.031715.9418@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>, arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes...
>In article <1992Oct7.143422.20572@urbana.mcd.mot.com> asoto@dacapo.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Anthony Soto) writes:
>>IF (notice a big if) Sinister is the child of Alex and Lorna, the "logic" that
>>you used would not support it at all! If Sinister is anyone's child, the most
>>logical choice is Scott and Madelyne.
>>	4) Only Scott's optic blast was able to hurt Sinister.
> 
>Actually, going from what we've been shown, this works exactly the wrong way.
>Scott's blast can't hurt him, or his brother....  if Mr. Sinister were related,
>the blast should be _unable_ to hurt him.

I remember a while back while we were kicking the idea of a cable/stryfe/
sinister relationship that we decided that it is possible that the immunity
thing skips generations.  

I was thinking if this is true maybe we could see if Scott's father, 
what's-his-name, the one with the Starjammers.  See if he's immune to Scott's 
power.

Food for thought,

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Date: Wed,  7 Oct 1992 12:41:27 -0400 
From: "Michael J. Keating" <mk56+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Ideas to help the mutants (was: Re: X-cutioner's Song)
	<1992Oct7.113304.6613@vela.acs.oakland.edu>

>This is what I'd do with Wolverine:
>1.  Take him out of X-Men, etc. for 6 to 12 months.
> 
>2.  No guest appearances anywhere for that span .
> 
>3.  Now in his own book only, we spend the six months resolving:
>a.  Logan's past and origin
>b.  His grief over Mariko's death
>c.  Other important details of his life
> 
>4.  He then returns a chnged (changed) man, a better leader and just basically
>more in control.
> 
>I know all this in-depth character analysis and plot resolution is probably
>beyond Marvel, but hey!  I can dream.:)

You ought to write to Marvel about that one.  I think it's a great idea.
Mike
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From: mcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Killans - First And Last And Always)
Subject: Re: The Jamie/Siryn thing
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 16:58:54 GMT

In article <BvrsBs.96M@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dv52151@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (SilverFang Ahroun) writes:
>
>
>Well, here's my Multiple Man question: Is his only power the ability to
>make duplicates? If so, then how come none of the duplicates ever pass
>out when someone hits them. I mean, Cannonball runs into him and all
>that happens is more Jamies..what if Rictor hits him? Even more Jamies..
>It seems like either he is way too powerful i.e. he is "well nigh
>invulnerable" or the writers just ignore that some of these blows would
>be knocking some of the dupes out.
>
In Trans-Sabal (either in X-Factor or Hulk) he said that he could split any
wounds he took between a number of dupes. Hence he seems invulnerable, as the
bigger the hit, the more dupes are created and the more dupes the damage is spread across.

Mike
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From: jrbell@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Jason Bell)
Subject: Theory: Cable has a daughter!
Organization: Monash University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 05:07:10 GMT

Ok, here is the latest theory about Cable's family ties....

^L
In the future, after Cable has done with mucking about with the present,
he has a sex-change operation and falls in love with.... SILVER SURFER.
They have a child ... SILVER SURFER + CABLE = SILVER SABLE! Bwah hah!

(Of course, this implies Silver Sable is also a time traveller... but who
isn't these days?)

-Jason
From: v125qj86@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Jeffrey B Rogers)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Askani
Date: 10 Oct 92 22:14:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Howdy. I read a comment recently that stated that Askani was a child
of Jean and Scott, because she refers to Little Nathan as 'brother'.
	However, the issue or two after that quote, the readers are shown
a segment of time right before she was sent to the past. In that segment,
she refers to some other people in her group as "brothers".
	I believe the term was used to express comeraderie, or a common 
'side' in the fight against Apocalpse (sp?). I DO NOT think it was meant to
be taken as signifying that Askani and Nathan were direct brother and sister.
	All IMHO, of course.
						J.B.Rogers
						SUNY@Buffalo
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From: dv52151@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (SilverFang Ahroun)
Subject: Re: The Jamie/Siryn thing
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:14:14 GMT

aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink) writes:

>	Now, correct me if I'm wrong here, but as I recall from the earlier
>issues of X-Factor (new team), each of Jamie's dupes are capable of independent
>thought, experience, emotion.  Each one has a unique perspective of the world.
>If Madrox gained that perspective from every dupe he reabsorbs, the man'd be
>totally and completely insane!  Just look at the last copy of X-Force.  Now
>if Jamie reabsorbs EVERY ONE of the dupes (remember the army of Madroxes at
>the end?), and gains each one's perspective, he'll remember an incident from
>twenty or thirty different angles.  NO ONE'S BRAIN COULD SORT THAT OUT.


Well, here's my Multiple Man question: Is his only power the ability to
make duplicates? If so, then how come none of the duplicates ever pass
out when someone hits them. I mean, Cannonball runs into him and all
that happens is more Jamies..what if Rictor hits him? Even more Jamies..
It seems like either he is way too powerful i.e. he is "well nigh
invulnerable" or the writers just ignore that some of these blows would
be knocking some of the dupes out.

Axly
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Subject: X-Men : The Animated Series
From: smccoll@alaska.cse.utoledo.edu (Scott T. McColl)
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:31:37 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: The University of Toledo
Keywords: X-men, Cartoon 


	Anyone know what happened to the X-Men cartoon that was supposed
	to air this past weekend? It was in the paper as on Saturday 
	at 11:30 am on the local FOX station but got changed to
	"George of the Jungle" Any news would be most appreciated.

	Thanks - Scott T. McColl

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From: 910252m@ace.acadiau.ca (DWAYNE ALLAN MACKINNON)
Subject: Re: Uncanny #295
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:49:43 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.105610.59696@cc.usu.edu> sl859@cc.usu.edu writes:
>From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
>Subject: Re: Uncanny #295
>Date: 14 Oct 92 10:56:10 MDT
>>>Personally, I liked this part (you might remember I'm the one who
>>>nuked Canada in alt.comics.LNH and generally has it in for Canada) 
>>>:+).
>> You NUKED CANADA????? Watch it my friend. We may only have 25 million people 
>
>yaaay!  Nukem!  Nukeem  all!
>
>> up here, but do you really want 25 million people ticked off? :-)
>> Canada. I mean, look at it : Weapon X, Deadpool, Tolliver, Department K, 
>> everything. Now, I don't really object to this, but I do have a problem that 
>> practically none of this has been reflected in Alpha Flight, the CANADIAN 
>> super-hero group. My only consolation is that this is changing slightly in  
>
>I beg your pardon, but Department K is VERY well known in Alpha Flight...  Ever
>since its original creation.  You probably haven't read back that far, huh?
>
>wReam...
>Ultimate Ninja of LNH
>
>P.S.  I really should be doing my homework!
>
>
Hey man, don't mess with me when it comes to the Flight!!!! :-)

    Seriously, though, I have read practically EVERY appearance of the 
Flight in any comic anywhere. I've even read the appearance in Crystar. Rest 
assured, Department K is a VERY new invention. I believe you have Department 
K mixed up with Department H, which was the government department 
responsible for the Flight's creation.


DMK,
Acadia University, Nova Scotia, Canada, who is positive that he's read every 
appearance of the Flight except for Sasquatch's appearance in Contest of 
Champions.
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: 2099 titles and X
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:29:21 GMT
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In-reply-to: thanatop@csd4.csd.uwm.edu's message of 14 Oct 92 17:25:07 GMT

>>>>> On 14 Oct 92 17:25:07 GMT, thanatop@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Brian Donald Jacobson) said:

thanatop> Originator: thanatop@csd4.csd.uwm.edu


thanatop> First off, I would like to give kudos to Peter David and Co.
thanatop> for a kick-butt Spider-Man 2099...which I can talk about
thanatop> here because really its a mutant title!! Miguel OHara's
thanatop> genetic template has been goofed with and changed with the
thanatop> spider so now he is a mutant!! (chew on that for a while)

I thought you had to be born with the powers to be considered a
mutant.

--
 Scott Streeter                             Keeper of the Star Wars Archive
 ss@wpi.wpi.edu                             wpi.wpi.edu        130.215.24.1
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From: rglass@pcs.cnu.edu (Randall Glass)
Subject: Lebeau (Gambit)
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:09:15 GMT

 Yes, i've read the "suggested improvements" list posted earlier.
Sorry, i don't have a copy to quote, but here's my views on the
Gambit character.
 
 1: dump Rogue!  These two would never make a good couple.
    He's too untamed for her... She's just a girl.
    
 2: MAKE Gambit the traitor.  It was apparent that Gambit was
    a fav. char of jim lee.  the "Flashback" (flash-forward???!)
    by Bishop revealed "Lebeau" as the last person to see
    the x-men.  i liked it.  (G should kill cyclops first!)

 3: In the upcoming Gambit miniseries (which WILL guest-star
    Rogue) will be written by Howard Mackie (???!, i'll give
    H.M. credit for the Gambit dialect, from _Ghost_Rider_)
    and illustrated by Lee Weeks (?!?!?!?! he drew a horrible
    Marvel3 card of gambit).
    Anyway, i'd like to see the series deal with Gambit's life
    PRIOR to the x-men.... in other words--> let's see him
    thieving and fighting, a Sabretooth appearance? sounds 
    good to me!

 4: bring back 'Bella Donna'.  i know of course that she's not
    really dead-->maybe she's trapped on the astral plane.

    and if she is brought back, i wouldn't want her together
    with Gambit (with the x-men).  she seems much too strong
    a lady to be hanging out with bunch of funky costumed
    blue/gold mutants.
 
 5: bring back "Callisto", i would have liked to have seen
    callisto running after gambit.  He's her type of guy.
    (oh course we all realize that callisto and mikhail are
    both alive, marvel just had to think of a QUICK way of
    writing them out of x-cutioners song)
 
 6: show gambit using some of his 'emotion control'/charm.

    while we're on the subject of powers, when's that last
    time anyone saw rogue use her absorbing powers?!

  that's enough for now.
  call the fire engines.
randall glass
rglass@pcs.cnu.edu
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Storm's New Power?
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:42:54 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Oct8.175724.59542@cc.usu.edu> sl859@cc.usu.edu writes:
>In article <Bvtn9t.9K6@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, rissab@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Larissa Bemis) writes:
>> 	Got a question for all you comic book people.  I read but don't
>> collect.  Anyway....  In X-tinction Agenda (towards the end) Genegineer
>> "gives" Storm the ability to be catalyst to restoring the X-men's abilities
>> (if I understand completely that is)  after Wipeout gets rid of them.
>> I don't recall if Wipeout died or not.  Any way, my question is this:
>> 	Can Storm now continually be catalyst (since it's in her genetic
>> 	structure now) the next time another Wipeout equivalent zaps the 
>> 	X-men???
>> I'm really curious to see what anyone has to say regarding this since I
>> _believe_ it should happen that way.  Then again, I may be putting way
>> too much reality into this and it was somehow just a one time thing ;)
>
>Wipeout was killed by Hodges.  So He is dead!  I suppose she has some wierd
>thing in her genetics!  Really wierd, huh?  Of course Storm has a lot of
>Genetic weirdness encoded into her....  It would be interesting to see if they
>ever did anything with it, but that would require they sit back and read some 
>back issues.  So I doubt it.

They don't have to.  I'll give them the only explaination they'll need:
the changes in Storm were specific to Wipeout's powers.  It doesn't
work on other power-removing methods.  Stupid, I know.  But I figured
I'd say it before they get the chance to.  At least this way, there's
always the chance that they'll think, "Oh, no!  Someone figured it
out!  We'll have to think of a new idea now!"

Hey, I can dream, can't I?

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
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From: tvp53202@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Toby Vaughn Padfield)
Subject: SEX SEX SEX
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 18:39:59 GMT

	Now that i have your attention. I recently bought a lithograph
of the deluxe cover of X-Men 1. It is signed by Chris Clarmont, Jim Lee
and Scott Williams. Its numbered 1152out of 2500. I was wondering how much
it is valued at. Dont post to the net, please e-mail me. All responses
will be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
Toby Padfield      e-mail:  tvp53202@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

Organization: Freshman, Art, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 15:35:13 -0400 
From: Chris Holly <maverick+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: X-Men 2099
	<Bvu715.9tD@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Distribution: rec.arts.comics.xbooks.

In a word:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

But more seriously:
	Obviously,  An X-Men 2099 tilte would like the other 2099 titles have
nothing to do with the "current" title.  The problems that arise with
the Xmen however is the fact that we know that by that in the futures of
Rachel and Bishop (Pre-2099) the X-men haved died and/or nolonger exist
and in the future of Cable(apparently Post-2099) the X-men still
no-longer exist.  Still, all of this could be expalined away with
Marvels all-purpose multiple timeline theory(but that is old and tired).

		-The Maverick
			-Chris Holly
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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Re: Lebeau (Gambit)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 05:35:28 GMT

re: Gulf coast avengers based in new Orleans (patricks suggestion)

G-D no!!!  That's all we need, more crappy characterazations of the South.

Going by Marvel's view of New Orleans, every issue would be durring Mardi Gras.
Unless they got someone like Nancy Collins or Bobbie Mann to write it (they live
ther/near there) I'd like Marvel to stay out of my fair city.


----Rebel Yell sitting in for Scavenger

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From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Gambit Jean and Scott's son?
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:28:02 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

jd53@prism.gatech.EDU (DE LA COVA,JORGE) writes:

>Has anyone considered that Gambit might be related to Jean and Scott?
>Given his powers (charging up objects and psychic invisibility) it's
>not so far-fetched.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

>I can't remember who mentioned it on the post, but someone has already
>made a connection between Gambit and Nathan Summers.  What if they are one
>and the same?

Damn!! You've given it away!!

Now, they're going to have to change it, despite the overwhelming
evidence!	I-)

				James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Fri,  9 Oct 1992 16:16:54 -0400 
From: "Michael J. Keating" <mk56+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Damage Report

I was just thinking, do you realize just how much damage the Professor
has taken?  For that matter, all the X-Men?

Just in the time I've been reading, Xavier has been attacked by thugs
and beaten to the point of death, only to be restored by the healer,
then he fell through the floor of the Justice Building where Magneto was
on trial (200), he was "flushed" through the sewers of Paris, had his
legs broken again by Shadow King and now has been shot through and
infected with a technovirus.  THe poor guy!
From: tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Deus Imperator)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: A brain scratcher...
Date: 16 Oct 92 06:42:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw7BzH.213
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

All right...with all this musings on who/what/where/how/why Apocalypse
is what he is, a memory from soooo long ago popped in so deliciously that
I decided to torment you with it.

In short, who were the X-Men (YES!  THE X-MEN) battling when Apocalypse
was _first_ mentioned? 
-- 
I don't mind being the smartest	    / Thanatos, DeathUrge, Master of Unknown
man in the world...I just wish it   \ Time and Space tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu 
wasn't this one...	       	    / "No, I don't know how much unknown is... 
	-Ozymandias 		    \	...THAT'S THE POINT!" 
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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Re: Cable-Stryfe-Nathan/techno fits
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 05:48:53 GMT

In article <cepBCZS00Uh7E79dwC@andrew.cmu.edu> sw3r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Steven Kelly Woyicki) writes:
>Ok, here are my theories on the subject:

>Claremont still.  I don't think Chris was plotting this.  He was getting
>ready to begin the Scott-Maddie-Jean/ Marauders/ Sinister/ clone thing.)
>    Back to Ahab:  I think it might be possible that he is Cable/Stryfe
>after Stryfe is ultimately beaten or something and gets turned into Ahab.
>
actually Chris was getting ready to Write Scott out of the series.  He was
married and babied off.  Then came X-Factor and Jean and .....


off the point, if someone could get close enough to shoot xavier,  why not
use a real gun (laser,projectile)?  Why use a tecno-virus shooter?  Pretty
dumb assassin (or editor).

-----SCAVENGER


-- 
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           isn't it?                            |      (Internet/Usenet)
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From: 910252m@ace.acadiau.ca (DWAYNE ALLAN MACKINNON)
Subject: Re: Uncanny #295
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:13:35 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.160828.59711@cc.usu.edu> sl859@cc.usu.edu writes:
>From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
>Subject: Re: Uncanny #295
>Date: 14 Oct 92 16:08:28 MDT
>>>yaaay!  Nukem!  Nukeem  all!
>
>> Hey man, don't mess with me when it comes to the Flight!!!! :-)
>> 
>>     Seriously, though, I have read practically EVERY appearance of the 
>> Flight in any comic anywhere. I've even read the appearance in Crystar. Rest 
>> assured, Department K is a VERY new invention. I believe you have Department 
>> K mixed up with Department H, which was the government department 
>> responsible for the Flight's creation.
>
>A very ineffective Nuke, Drizzt.  Next time could you please do a better job.
>All these departments make me remember why I hate Rob Leechfield so much...
>
>wReam...
>Ultimate Ninja
>
>P.S.  I still REALLY ought to be doing my homework.
>
>
Side note: It was John Byrne who was responsible for Department H. It's not 
his fault that Liefeld decided to set up a new department. Although in a 
way, it sort of makes sense for there to be one. In A.F. the Canadian 
military has always wanted more control over the Flight then they would 
allow. It sort of makes sense that the military would thus set up their own 
super-human operatives division. I just wish it had happened in A.F., not X-
Force.

DMK
Acadia University, Wolfville, Nova Scotia, Canada.