From: wusel@hactar.hanse.de (Kai 'wusel' Siering)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: ARn problems
Date: 27 Dec 92 05:48:40 GMT
Reply-To: Kai 'wusel' Siering <wusel@hactar.hanse.de>
Organization: Villa Straylight, Hamburg, FRG
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In article <sdMbs*f10@lemsys.UUCP>, Craig Lemon VE3XCL writes:

%         Let's hope you can see this.  I've been posting to the net for a

At least I can =:->

% couple months now (since installing ARn), thinking my articles were being
% propogated, but they weren't.  That the first of my difficulties.  It seems
% to be somewhat Arn's problem.  I'll explain :
%
%         I have two different ways of posting news present in my .arnrc
% file, one is always hashed out.  One is through postnews and the other is
% through rnews.  I found that when using rnews, AUTOBATCH does not function.

Can't help you on that ...

%  When I'm not feeding other small sites, I like to use AUTOBATCH so I
% switched to postnews.  Postnews appeared to work just fine.  Eventually, I
% figured that something was up because I was getting no replies to anything
% (eventually including misc.test posts).  It appears that at least some of
% the articles generated through POSTNEWS (allowing AUTOBATCH to function)
% had two sets of Path: and From: lines.  One generated by Arn, and one by

     Ieeeeh! Wonderning WHAT `postnews' is doing -- checking for standard
conformance definitively not =:-<

% Postnews.  I know that PostNews doesn't screw up with things like
% Article-ID's - it only supplies one if one is not already present.  What

     It really should treat any header this way -- either leave it alone
or replace it (add ONLY if not already present) ...

% went on here?  Right now I'm making due with batching all articles by hand
% (ie. typing batchnews).  In summary, I feel that there is something wrong
% with  Dillon's postnews (or a releated program) to allow two Path: and two
% From: lines, and a problem with Arn that you cannot explicitly state what
% lines you want included in the temp. file that is to be passed to the

     Well, you have to have at least a `From:' line in your article;
although the AmigaOS currently doesn't support multiple users (and it's
not clear if it ever will =:-<), at least I wish to be able to post
something as `postmaster' or `root' ... For `Path:', the same applies
(more or less).

% posting software (if this is in Arn v1.00, please forgive me, I haven't had
% the time to read all of the docs yet.  Besides, arn v1.00 is another
% story...).

=:->

%         I also decided to install Arn v1.00.  I had the seemingly popular
% problem with the obsolete group syndrom.  I read the docs and got the
% impression that the .grouplist had to be sorted alphabetically, not the

     Oops? If that's the case, that's a BIG mistake! I have several local
groups (hanse.*) which are more important to me than e. g. alt.* or comp.*
... Actually, I doubt your conclusion, but I haven't got the time to read
the docs yet, too. Remember: the .newsrc (.grouplist) contains your
*personal* presentation sequence. It's possible that the active-file has
to be sorted, mine currently isn't and I get these `obsolete' messages for
exactly the out-of-order groups ...

% ACTIVE file.  Since arnmaster maintains the ACTIVE-file in my news
% software setup, WHY COULDN'T _IT_ ensure that it was sorted?  Arn crashed
% everytime it tried to deal with the unsorted ACTIVE-file causing a reboot
% to be required.  Also, upon inspection, I found a newsgroup in the ACTIVE

Never noticed THAT?!

%      Thirdly, it seems that I can no longer access many CTRL-key functions
% (like post and Quick Quit (no .grouplist update).  It merely flickers the

Quick Quit is ^C now; better read the docs before Roland reads this =:->

% screen and goes merrily about displaying the group list.  Why is this?  I
% can't post any articles without re-executing Arn with the '-p' option.

You should be able to:

uulib:arnhelp.txt
---------------------------------------8<---------------------------------------
[...]
[7mReply/FollowUp/Post/Cancel[0m
r,R     : [1mreply[0m. Invokes editor and produces a reply ('R' for quoting text)
f,F     : Invokes editor and produces a [1mfollow-up[0m ('F' for quoting orig. text)
M       : Special menu for [1mforwarding[0m (via e-mail) and special [1mquoting[0m.
E       : enter a new message ([1mpost[0m new article).
C       : [1mCancel[0m this article, if yours.
[should be `c', not `C' ...]
[7mOther[0m
N,P     : go to [1mn[0mext or [1mp[0mrevious selected newsgroup.
C       : [1mcatch up[0m. Mark all articles in this group as read! Goto next group.
M       : [1munsubscribe[0m this group!
E       : [1mPost[0m an article to this group.
O       : Options menu. Turn Clear-Screen-Mode on/off, Header-Stop-Mode on/off,
                        local or global X-files on/off.
B       : Version info.
[...]
--------------------------------------->8---------------------------------------

% I've browsed the manual and searched for keywords on these specific topics
% but have found nothing.  I have read the Arn v1.00 beta rel2 manual

Ohoh ... Are you talking about a beta or the final 1.00 release?!
			kai

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