HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: yurick@vaxr.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: U4ia stuff.  Fund canceled.  No more modules... EVER!
Date: 10 Sep 92 08:52:01 GMT
Organization: LLNL_LIS

In article <1992Sep9.183749.58745@cc.usu.edu>, slbfn@cc.usu.edu writes:
> 
> Anybody who has sent money to the U4ia releif fund will have there money
> returned... (all two of you)
> The fund has been canceled.  There will never be another U4ia music module.
> Thanks everybody.
> Greetings,
> 	Travis Carter
> 	slbfn@cc.usu.edu

  So because only 2 people sent in money, this guy has stopped making U4ia
music modules?????  He will never in his life-time get his problem fixed? 
Sounds kind of odd to me.  He recently went onto the net and said that he was
only REQUESTING money from people, but maybe it turns out that he should have
said..."If you people don't send me money, to fix my problem, I'll
never-ever fix it on my own, so I'll stop making modules all together!!!"  

  Come on!  If everyone who ever had a set-back in their lives just gave up,
then we'd still be living in a cave.  

  And before any of you start to push that preset flame key, (you know who you
are), I'm simply asking this...Has he quit making these modules because :

         A)  He was tired of doing them, and probably would have quit soon
             anyway?  

         B)  In this guy's lifetime, he will NEVER be able to replace his
             computer, regardless of what he does to save a little bit of money
             each month/year/decade?  
            (Insert your own definition of little bit).

         C)  This person has/had no intentions of saving whatever little bit of
             money he possible ever could and some day fix his computer on his
             own, but was actually relying solely on other people's money to
             help himself out of a jam [the quick & easy way]?  
             (See 'B' for the "little bit" explanation).

   Again, take your fingers off the Flame-O-Matic.  I'm not making any
judgments.  This post just made me go, "HMMmmmmmmm".

Joe
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From: pac1@st-andrews.ac.uk (Paul Andrew Carey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Terminator MOD, anyone?
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:27:40 GMT
Organization: St. Andrews University, Scotland.

Please tell me where did you get that mod. Power by Snap

I 've been looking for that for ages

Thanks 


-= Paul =-
From: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: U4ia stuff.  Fund canceled.  No more modules... EVER!
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 09:04:11 EDT
Reply-To: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us
Organization: The Veronica Lake Fan Club

yurick@vaxr.llnl.gov writes:

> In article <1992Sep9.183749.58745@cc.usu.edu>, slbfn@cc.usu.edu writes:
> > 
> > Anybody who has sent money to the U4ia releif fund will have there money
> > returned... (all two of you)
> > The fund has been canceled.  There will never be another U4ia music modu
le.
> > Thanks everybody.
> > Greetings,
> > 	Travis Carter
> > 	slbfn@cc.usu.edu
> 
>   So because only 2 people sent in money, this guy has stopped making U4ia
> music modules?????  He will never in his life-time get his problem fixed? 
> Sounds kind of odd to me.  He recently went onto the net and said that he 
was
> only REQUESTING money from people, but maybe it turns out that he should h
ave
> said..."If you people don't send me money, to fix my problem, I'll
> never-ever fix it on my own, so I'll stop making modules all together!!!" 
 
> 
>   Come on!  If everyone who ever had a set-back in their lives just gave u
p,
> then we'd still be living in a cave.  
> 
>   And before any of you start to push that preset flame key, (you know who
 yo
> are), I'm simply asking this...Has he quit making these modules because :
> 
>          A)  He was tired of doing them, and probably would have quit soon
>              anyway?  
> 
>          B)  In this guy's lifetime, he will NEVER be able to replace his
>              computer, regardless of what he does to save a little bit of 
mon
>              each month/year/decade?  
>             (Insert your own definition of little bit).
> 
>          C)  This person has/had no intentions of saving whatever little b
it 
>              money he possible ever could and some day fix his computer on
 hi
>              own, but was actually relying solely on other people's money 
to
>              help himself out of a jam [the quick & easy way]?  
>              (See 'B' for the "little bit" explanation).
> 
I thought, truthfully, the answer was:
D) He's pissed about people ragging him for asking for help.

And I can hardly blame him.


"Sometimes what you say is going to fly right in the faces of the 
powerful people who really run this world, but you don't care...you know 
it's your place to challenge authority..."

                                          Rockerboy
From: Fady_Kardoush@amusers.UUCP (Fady Kardoush)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: MOD questions
Distribution: world
Date: 6 Sep 92 18:53:12 PST
Organization: The Amiga Users Group of Victoria BC

In a message dated Wed  2 Sep 92  2:56, rcaslis@hydra.acs.uci.edu (Russell
Caslis) wrote:

 RC> Does anyone out there know of a good, mystical-sounding mod? 
 RC> Something not
 RC> too loud, kinda soft & relaxing?  (I don't want to sift through the
 RC> vast
 RC> numbers of mods out there).

Try ResonanceII.. It is probably the mod you are looking for!

 RC> Also, does anyone have the sources to a mod player... nothing fancy,
 RC> just
 RC> enough to play the sounds.  I'd like to include it in a program of
 RC> mine.
 RC> Preferably 'C' with asm routines.

I think I have seen the sources for MultiPlayer floating around somewhere..
Try those!

 RC> Thanks.

Your welcome!

 RC> --
 RC> Russ Caslis
 RC> rcaslis@uci.edu

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From: whitem@jester.usask.ca (Matt White)
Subject: Re: My Amiga 3000 died today
Followups-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:36:41 GMT

Kelvin Leung (abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu) wrote:
: 
: I don't understand what's your problem, buddy.  
: 
: If you think making such a joke (like the one above) was funny, well, I can
: tell you, I didn't laugh.  I might have laughed... but it wouldn't be
: because I was laughing at your joke.  It would be because I was laughing
: at you.  You are just about one of the most insensitive people I have
: ever met on the net.  Congratulations, buddy.
: 
: Yours Sincerely,
: Kelvin
: 

Boy, some people have absolutly NO sense of humor.  GET A BRAIN!  I didn't
mind U4ia's plea for money.  His mods that I have heard (I'm not a big
collector of mods) are good, and he does good work.  But, what's the big
deal about a joke????  Calm down, take a valium, and get a life.

I've redirected followups (AKA snivelling) to C.S.A.A

Matt White                      |  whitem@jester.usask.ca
User Support & Training         |  white@sask.usask.ca
Dept. of Computing Services     |  Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, CANADA
University of Saskatchewan      |  My real computer is an Amiga...
From: luumu@whirpool.pp.fi (Janne Saarme)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: digitizing 30 minutes voice
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 6 Sep 92 18:59:27 GMT+2
Organization: Captain Converse

In article <1992Sep5.035711.13243@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs902125@ariel.yorku.ca (SHUK C YIP) writes:

> As far as I know, only Perfect Sound and AD1012 can record onto hard
> drive directly. (30 mins about 100+ meg)

What is AD1012? I have ARS2PS3.LZH archive and with that I can record data
directly to Harddisk.


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From: cs902125@ariel.yorku.ca (SHUK C YIP)
Subject: Re: digitizing 30 minutes voice
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 17:02:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.125424.14601@midway.uchicago.edu> dgc3@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>AudioMaster can record to disk, as well.  It uses (any?) 8-bit
>sampler.  There are at least three PD, mono 8-bit sampler schematics
>floating around, if you're handy with a soldering iron.  Any
>commercial product should work fine, as well (perhaps requiring the
>commercial software to run it).  A PD program called AGMSRecordSound
>can also drive the sampler.  For playback, I prefer OmniPlay,
>personally :-)
>
I've some question. AudioMaster can only record to single floppy disk,
not hard drive, right!? Can OmniPlay play sound directly off your hard
drive?
From: andrews@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (andrew smedley)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:46:43 GMT
Subject: Re: For Sale: One sense of humor, never used.
Organization: Hewlett-Packard ISG-SBU-PWD, UK.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio

Dave,
     have you noticed Ross Perot jumbled up gives po(o)r tosser.

     Something to think about...
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Subject: Re: MED modules vs Multiplayer
From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Date: 7 Sep 92 10:30:20 PST
Organization: TAP, NZAmigaUG

Quoted from <crystal.715804150@glia> by crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal):
> Some of these so-called MED's are shown as sound/noise/protracker
> Others are listed as  MED/OctaMED

    I load suspect MODs into MED 3.21, then save them back out again.
    Older MED files are usually not recognised by Multiplayer.

    One thing that bugs me about MED MODs is that they loop ad
    infinitum (as far as I've been patient enough to tell), which
    affects a "program" in much the same way as a scratch affects a
    record.

> Crystal
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From: Fady_Kardoush@amusers.UUCP (Fady Kardoush)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: .aiff files?
Distribution: world
Date: 6 Sep 92 18:50:44 PST
Organization: The Amiga Users Group of Victoria BC

In a message dated Tue  1 Sep 92  5:29, crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu
(Crystal) wrote:

 C> What is the difference between a sample and a mod?

Think of samples as instruments in mods. You can use samples to make mod
files. The use of them is actually quit common on mods these days. When you
hear a digitized voice in the middle of a module, it is actually a sample!

 C> How can I listen to a sample? 

There are quite a number of programs tht allow you to listen to sound
samples. My favorite is a program called "Sound".

 C> Are they supposed to be used to make mods?

Well, people do not make them for mods, but you can use them in them. But,
it is usually sampled to listen to by itself.

 C> Thanks in Advance!

Your welcome!

 C> Crystal


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From: wuth@castrov.cuc.ab.ca (Brett Wuth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: digitizing 30 minutes voice
Distribution: world
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:16:20 MDT
Organization: Castrovalva is a state of mind

Hi, I have several cassette tapes of interviews with family relatives 
before they died.  Because I want these recordings to be available for
the generations to come, I would like to avoid degradation in quality
by digitizing them.  I would like to get your recommendations on how
to do this.

My equipment: A2000, 7Meg RAM, A2620 (68020), GVP Series II HD Controller,
	      2 SyQuest 40M drives.

Can you recommend, either public-domain or commercial:
	* digitizing hardware to use
	* digitizing software
	* play-back software
I would like to be able to digitize an entire side (30 min) in one
operation.  Will this require recording straight to disk, or is
my 7Meg of RAM sufficient?
The recordings are voice only, and fairly clear.  I want to preserve
as much quality as possible, but know I will have to compromise with
storage space.  What sampling rate would you recommend for voice?
Do the standard compression tools work well with digitized sound?  
I would think not, because of the even distribution of binary values.
What compression tools are best?  Is there one that uses delta
compression?

Thanks for your help.  E-mail or post; I'll summarize if requested.
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From: jc@crosfield.co.uk (jerry cullingford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: digitizing 30 minutes voice
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:17:58 GMT
Organization: Crosfield Electronics, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom.

In article <wuth.21k4@castrov.cuc.ab.ca> wuth@castrov.cuc.ab.ca (Brett Wuth) writes:
>Hi, I have several cassette tapes of interviews with family relatives 
>before they died.  Because I want these recordings to be available for
>the generations to come, I would like to avoid degradation in quality
>by digitizing them.  I would like to get your recommendations on how
>to do this.

If you want them to be available for a _long_ time, you'd probably be better
off recording them onto something like recordable CD (Decks cost around 3000
pounds, and you might be able to hire one, blank CDs around 14 pounds), instead
of any computer format.

It's a pretty safe bet that the CD format will be around for longer than most
PC sound formats. And a CD is more accessible, and higher quality too - and
harder to erase by accident :-)

(Think of the PCs people were using ten years ago - how would you read
data stored by it now? - Compare that with a record from twenty, or even
forty years ago.. )

I'm not sure what the life of the recordable CD's is, but it's probably longer
than a syquest cartridge or hard disk, although both being digital, you can
always make a copy without loss of quality (as long as you do so _before_ the
original dies :-) )
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From: luumu@whirpool.pp.fi (Janne Saarme)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: PT vs. ST/NT -> Others.
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 5 Sep 92 20:43:38 GMT+2
Organization: Captain Converse

I have a lots of modules but I am not sure about are these Protracker
modules all. Is there any program that gives me module type information?


Where I can get Techno samples? FTP places?


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From: jh@cadre.com (Joe Hartley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: AudioMaster IV hangs under 2.0
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:42:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: fripp.1992Sep11.174233.3298
Reply-To: jh@cadre.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.

In article K8o@vcd.hp.com, chacala@vcd.hp.com (Chuck Hacala) writes:
>I just upgraded to AudioMaster IV and I have an Amiga 3000 and Perfect 
>Sound 3.  When I run AudioMaster under AmigaDOS 2.04, it hangs when I
>try to MONITOR the digitizer or record a sample.  I have selected PSOUND3
>in the setup screen.  I tried this same setup under AmigaDOS 1.3 and it
>worked fine.
>
>Has anyone else experienced this?  The AudioMaster IV package says that
>it is 2.0 compatible.  Is it really?  I would appreciate hearing from
>any other A3000 users who have had this problem or have gotten this
>combination to work.  
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Chuck
>chacala@hp-vcd.vcd.hp.com


I use AudioMaster IV on my 1000 running 2.04 (yes!) and it works fine.  I have
a PerfectSound 2 digitizer, I believe.
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From: cs902125@ariel.yorku.ca (SHUK C YIP)
Subject: Re: digitizing 30 minutes voice
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 15:12:09 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.041548.6778@midway.uchicago.edu> dgc3@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>As for OmniPlay: yes, it plays 8SVX, AIFF, WAV, VOC, .au, .snd, and
>8-bit raw (any 8-bit raw) from any valid filesystem.  There's an
>announcement coming up in c.s.a.announce soon, describing more
>features.  Also, I'm still working on improving it (the version I
>announced was 0.98), but I won't be able to upload it for a while
>(which is why I announced a pre-1.0).  I should have it running as a
>daemon soon (optionally), with an option to name its Rexx port "PLAY"
>so that it can replace upd for things already hardcoded to play thru
>upd.  After that...well, you decide.
>

Can OmniPlay load the sound sample while it is playing? (something likes
virtual memory) If yes, I really want to replace AGMSPlay with this.
From: h08f@alf.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Faroul)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Different MOD file formats
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:14:56 GMT
Organization: Univ. Bremen, Informatik

jholdern@casper.cs.uct.ac.za (J E Holderness) writes:

>Could someone be so kind as to point me in the direction of any info on
>the different MOD file formats. I'm not interested in soundtracker, noise-
>tracker, protracker and screamtracker, but anything else. I've heard mention
>of MED, Future Composer, and a few others. I don't even know if these are
>different from the "normal" mods, so any info would be welcome.

The formats of Sound-, Pro-, Noise- and Screamtracker are nearly the same.
Protracker has some little more commands the other don't understand.
MED has a bit other format and much more commands/features no other Tracker
understands (so to play MED's modules you mostly have to use a MEDPlayer or
another player who understands its format).
Future Composer is a totally different kind of format, not much used anyway
(if listening to a FC-song, you'll here so called "arpeggios" quite often.
Arpeggios are mostle three different notes played rapidly and continiously
after each other, making a kind og accord (c-e-g ie).)
There are some more formats (FTM...) I don't know further.

	Faroul

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From: dgc3@ellis.uchicago.edu (milovan djilas)
Subject: Re: A-Sound Elite (was Re: HELP: Sound Digitizers)
Reply-To: dgc3@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Parts of the University of Chicago
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 14:38:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.141021.12702@cunews.carleton.ca> ags@scs.carleton.ca (Alexander G. M. Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Sep7.000642.3132@midway.uchicago.edu> dgc3@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>No, it doesn't directly support editing just one channel of a stereo
>sound.  Actually, I sometimes have to do this.  I just copy the track to
>another buffer, convert it to mono (throw away either the left or right
>channel), do whatever editing is needed, and convert it back to stereo
>and mix it in with the old track (after blanking out the old channel). 
>If I had to do this often, I would just set up an ARexx macro to do it
>all.  Neat, eh? Arexx actually is useful!

Well, it's good that the program supports ARexx -- it *is* useful --
but in this case it just won't cut it.  I usually need to keep the two
stereo tracks precisely synched, and I don't want to have to insert
exactly the right amount of silence to keep the part following what I
edited in one track where it was.  I need a program that can remember
at what sample number a certain pattern started (not a complicated as
it sounds) for me, so  I don't have to count off the size of what I
cut minus what I paste.  I also need to be able to play both tracks
together while I work, so converting to mono is out of the question.
Oh well.  Guess I still have to write my own sample editor.  What a
pain.

Thanks for the information, though.

--dgc
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From: milo@cbnews.cb.att.com (guy.f.klose)
Subject: Re: Copyist (was Re: Music programs ?)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:21:27 GMT

In article <Jason_Peacock.0bsl@fcircus.sat.tx.us>, Jason_Peacock@fcircus.sat.tx.us (Jason Peacock) writes:
>   Have you actually tried the part extraction utility?

My initial romp into part extraction was confusing at best...I had a single
lead sheet on a page (a 12-bar blues) and wanted to transpose it to Bb for
trumpet and tenor.  I figured with the extraction utility's transpose function
that this would work, but I gave up on it after awhile.  I thought, at the
time, that the part extraction doesn't work so well in this circumstance,
and that maybe it was looking for more of a "score" where you extract the
top line from every page, then the second line from every page, etc.

So, now I've been working on my second project, which is a 15-piece big
band score.  I figured when that was done, I'd try the part extraction again.
It's going to be a few weeks before I get to that, though.

>   A note on copy-protection...I bought my Copyist DTP about a year ago and
> it had key-disk protection.  I guess this new non-copy-protected system is
> somthing new.

I own most of the Dr. T programs, and from what I can figure, they have
dropped the key-disk copy protection from every product.  The newer ones
that I've bought don't come with copy protection, even though their
manuals imply that they do (those programs have included Copyist, XOR,
and KCS 3.5).  The older products that I bought but then subsequently
upgraded (a Caged Artist editor/librarian, and Tiger Cub), with their
new version, came non-copy-protected.  Dr. T didn't upgrade the old
manuals, so those still say that the programs are copy protected.

All-in-all, I'd say this is probably a victory for us, the user.  After
years of magazine reviews and customer feedback (in this forum and others)
complaining of copy protection, Dr. T seems to have gotten the message
that we don't like copy protection.
-- 
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