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From:         Paul Caron <g9026163@MCMAIL.CIS.MCMASTER.CA>
Subject:      Re: Table Mountain
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How long is this competition open?  My Dutch mother-in-law is scheduled to
visit this weekend.

Paul Caron                              G9026163@mcmail.cis.McMaster.CA
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ont.
CANADA
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From:         Allan Needell <NASSH100@SIVM.SI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: NBI Technical Support
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From: Allan Needell

How difficult would it be to supply purchasers a choice of nb or xy keyboards
and help files to the same program and make it behave for all practical
purposes like nb4 or xw4? I could well imagine the choice could be made part
of the general setup routine and that the programming would be easy compared
to making orbis behave well and as promised. Am I wrong?

Regards,
Allan A. Needell (NASSH100@SIVM.SI.EDU)
Dept. of Space History, National Air & Space Museum
Smithsonian Institution, Washington, DC 20560  (202/357-2828)
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 93 18:52:36 IST
From:         "J-P Takala, University of Helsinki,
              Sociology" <JTAKALA@FINUHA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: input window save
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Allan Needell wrote:

      >J-P's notesave.run does work, but only if the cursor is at a
      >place that really is inside the note. If the cursor is at
      >the end of a note, because of some quirks in the way the
      >program calculates cursor position, the program thinks it is
      >outside.

This is curious.  I couldn't make it NOT to land inside the note.  It
probably is sensitive to some chance differences in the default
settings different people use.  It might also be less reliable in
longer files (although it has worked from inside note number 50 at
position 341000).

J-P Takala
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From:         Ran Chermesh <chermesh@BGUMAIL.BGU.AC.IL>
Subject:      What's CTRL-ALT-F9
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	I'm trying to install an universal quit function from a misbehaved
program on my system. I used to use CBOOT, but for some unidentified reason,
it creates some problems on my system. Someone recommended the use of CTRLALT.
I've downloaded it, installed, and looks like it has nice features.
	I've encountered, though a problem with notabene. The hotkey for
implementing CTRLALT is CTRL-ALT-F9. When I use this combination on nb,
some unidentified action takes place. A message 'done' is posted. Still,
I don't know what has been done.
	Can someone suggest me how to identify the meaning of the ALT-CTRL-F9
combination in nb? Or even better, how do I identify the meaning of a given
action. I vaguely remeber that the answer is located in my .kbd file. But...

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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 93 10:27:48 -0600
From:         Kenneth Salzberg <ksalzber@HAMLINE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: input window save
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Following Allen's observation, one could add a cursor left command at
the beginning of the program, and a cursor right at the end, and both
be "in" the window when invoking the cursor position saving function,
and be back where you started at the end.

--Ken Salzberg
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 93 14:58:39 IST
From:         STRAUSS@UNCA.EDU
Subject:      Re: NBI Technical Support
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Dorothy, and others,
From my recent reading of XYWrite's brochure, and info. on XYWrite 4.0,
it seems that they are going to incorporate the "gist" of NB. I suspect
that after that point, there would be little reason to continue NB.

But perhaps the result will be a "super NB"?

--Bob Strauss
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 93 17:06:00 EST
From:         "Ada_W.Finifter" <FINIFTER@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: scholarly authors as composi
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Re Robert Kelly's point that hiring someone to fix the file to meet the
publisher's formatting requirements is possible only when one has a grant or
other money:

If the person works in a university environment, unless he or she is using an
extremely esoteric product, there must be lots of people around who would know
how to insert the proper formatting commands.  Would this really take more
than an hour or two for someone who knew what they were doing?  I cannot
believe the professor involved would not feel his time is worth more than the
$20 or $30 he might have to pay a moonlighting secretary or student to do
this. Perhaps he is really having some fun trying to figure it out even though
grousing about it!
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 93 17:38:50 GMT
From:         M.E.Bennun@CEN.EX.AC.UK
Subject:      RE: DEFAULT.SET? (Was: Re: Unchangeable minimum page length)
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              93 10:44 am

___Pace___ Dave Reimer and Dorothy Day - I recall that Peter Parisi
was asking about NB3, not NB4, hence my comments about default.set and
startup.int.

The deltas in startup.int are mentioned only in the Pgmming and
Cust'ng Guide, which seems to be a highly classified document. I hope
that V.4's documentation will include this, and that more of us will
be allowed to read it.

It seems to me to be odd that several settings in default.set are
giving Peter problems. This is why I am not pacified by his failure to
find other copies of default.set lying around in the system path -
__vide__ my suggestions a few weeks ago, and to which he was
referring. I suggest that all his difficulties related to default.set
have a common cause......

Now that you've started us quarreling over you, Peter, don't you think
you should come clean and confess that all your problems are due to
some blindingly obvious bit of finger trouble on your part? It's
people like you who cause wars, meteor strikes, hard disk crashes, and
outbreaks of glandular fever among students.....
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Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
Phone: (+44) (0) 392 263 161
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From:         "John E. Koontz" <koontz@ALPHA.BLDR.NIST.GOV>
Subject:      Re: sublinear dot; SIL TT IPA fonts
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Sublinear dot:

I recently did something like this on the fly, by editing the underscore
mode to make it an underdot mode.  I can't give details here at work, where
I don't have any documentation or even a copy of NB, but I located the
underscore mode, used the Customization Manual and the HP manual to help me
interpret what I was seeing, and replaced the part that said start
underlining with something that said backspace, move downward, print a
period, ...  Obviously this won't work well with proportional fonts.

Another solution that occurs to me would be to edit the font to make an
alternative underdotted version, but I presume we are dealing with one of
those blasted encrypted fonts NBI is so fond of.

On another note, I've been looking at the new SIL TrueType IPA font.  The
diacritics are set up so they print under the preceding letter - very nice!
Of course, they have to provide a set of alternatives for each diacritic, to
handle different width and height/depth characters.  Also, some of my
favorite diacritics, like the nasal hook, are missing, since they're not IPA
usage.  I'm looking forward to receiving the commercial version with c. 900
symbols! The version I'm working with is copyrighted freeware; the
commercial version is $64, including postage and handling to US addresses.
On the down side, until I can figure out how to rasterize TT fonts, I can't
use them with NB.   I was able to use the IPA fonts (at any point size) with
MS Word, using TT for DOS to build the driver.

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From:         M.E.Bennun@CEN.EX.AC.UK
Subject:      Re: Damaged Ibid.
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              atJan 25, 93 6:26 pm

M.E.Bennun@uk.ac.ex.cen wrote........
>
>
> I've broken something. Please fix it, mommy....
>
> I added a lot of material to Ibid last night at home, increasing the
> size of nbbib000.dat.  I then copied this file over the same file when
> etc etc etc....

Please ignore that posting while I scrape egg off my face. Finger
trouble...  I'm sorry.... wrong subdirectory..... duplicate files in
another.... I owe everyone a cider.....
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From:         "Ada_W.Finifter" <FINIFTER@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Editors
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Re Ken's point of requiring submissions to his journal to be in either NB,
XYWrite, or ASCII...

Maybe you can do this in the humanities but it would be ridiculous in
political science.  In the mid-eighties Nota Bene had a small but possibly
even growing customer base in my discipline and in my own department as well.
At one point the entire office staff and about 80% of the faculty used NB.
Over the years because of dissatisfaction with support, high prices, lack of
information and updates, etc. etc. people fell away one by one.  The office
staff had never really liked the program and there was no support at the
university, so when a new person joined the staff they were very likely to
know WP and not NB.  As more and more faculty switched over to WP to be
compatible with co-authors all over the country, etc. it then made no sense
for the office staff to have to keep struggling with it so they switched over
to WP as well. At the present time, there is only one other faculty member in
the dept. who continues to use NB basically because he learned it 10 years ago
and has absolutely no facility with computers and is afraid to try anything
new.  People who use lots of mathematical notation and equations use other
word processors because NB cannot set a multi-level equation properly and
people who use mainly words use WP.  NB will never be able to reclaim the
customer base it once had in the social sciences when it was the only word
processor that knew the difference between a footnote and a footer.
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From:         "Gerald W. Schlabach" <GSCHLABA@IRISHVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Want ad: NB Icon
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Now that I've just gone public about running NB under Windows 3.1, still
a bit tentatively but not just experimentally, I can ask whether anyone
out there has a nice-looking icon for NB?  Paul Bodin posted one for OS2
recently, but if there is a way to bring it over onto Windows, I don't
know it.  Richard Betts mentioned that he had a rough one six months ago,
but he doesn't seem to have the same E-Mail address anymore (Richard are you
there?)  My preference would be for a mini-version of the red-on-black
opener on NB 3.0 and 3.1.  Anyone?

Gerald W. Schlabach           |     Item bellum nullum argumentum est
Theology  U. of Notre Dame   |     pro veritate fidei Christianae.
Schlabach.1@nd.edu            |          --Francisco de Vitoria, 1539
From: ILADHH@EMUVM1.BITNET (David H. Hesla)
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Subject: DUPLICATES
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:28:58 GMT
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Many duplicate postings arrived today--five copies of M. Bennun's penitential
compensation.  A true instance of supererogation.


DAVID H. HESLA
GRADUATE INSTITUTE OF THE LIBERAL ARTS
EMORY UNIVERSITY
ATLANTA GA 30322
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From:         "Gerald W. Schlabach" <GSCHLABA@IRISHVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      NB Icons for Windows
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I hope people were patient with Bob Strauss's long messages with UUE
files.  Windows users will be impressed.  But meanwhile, I have blown
a few hours figuring out how to make my own icons, and Paul Canon sent
me one for NB4.  So for those who are interested, and perhaps for Itamar
to file away in some archive, here are three icons.  One is a red-on-black
NB as on the NB3 opener.  One is a grey black and red imitation of the
NB4 logo (Paul's work).  And for the nostalgic, the third is a red on
black dragonfly, imitating the one on NB3 literature.  Freeware!


section 1 of xxencode 4.21 of file NBICONS.ZIP    by R.E.M.

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sum -r/size 54824/1198 section (from "begin" to "end")
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From:         Robert Braham <RMB@CUNYVMS1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: IBID problem with SELECT
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>From: Tom Cravens <CRAVENS@MACC.WISC.EDU>

>I have exactly the same problem with SELECTing across all fields: nothing
>found. If anyone has a solution, please post it for all.


Same here.
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From: calonso@emory.edu (Carlos J. Alonso)
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Subject: IBID problem with SELECT
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:23:37 GMT
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I recently switched from NB3 to version 4.  I discovered that now I
have a problem with the SELECT function in IBID, that is, the one
that allows you to search the data base accross any or all fields.
Any time I do a search accross all fields I come up empty; but if I
do the same search designating now a specific field (e. g. keywords
for retrieval, publication date or whatever) I get results.  So you
see, it cannot be a PATH problem, since Ibid knows where to go get
the data.  Any suggestions?  Is this a bug?  I will appreciate any
help.
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From:         Assie Gildenhuys <ASSIE@NAVI.UP.AC.ZA>
Subject:      Re: Autoreplace
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Dear Tony,
Would you be so kind as to send me your "solution" for the fact
that NB4 has the limits on the string to insert through
autoreplace (rather a bother).
Can you please send it to me in xxdecoded format because it
seems to be the safest transfer format.
Thanks in advance
Assie Gildenhuys
Pretoria
P.S.
I must say I am very reluctant to make the move from nb3.1 to 4
because after all the additional help files and programs the
older version worked fine for me!
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Subject:      Re: [Note extract/reinsert]
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Allan:

I reported that very problem some months ago. I also have written three small
XPL programs to reinsert the notes. They are distinctly un-fancy but do the
job. They are on my machine at home, so I shall post them to the group on Monday
 or Tuesday

Frederik Pedersen, Carlsberg Fellow, Cambridge group
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From:         "Paul J. Bodin" <pjb3@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: NB4.0 and Windows 3.1
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Paul Caron writes:

> ... In short, the only so-called fix I could come up with was
> either choosing another setting at the NB end, or, if you don't
> mind special effects (like flashing menu letters), load NB with the /b
> switch and choose any display setting you like.

If you manually reload the fonts and palette (with CTRL+[Esc]) that
should get rid of the flashing menu letters and so on.  Works for me,
anyhow.

___________________________________________________________________________
Paul J. Bodin                         Internet: pjb3@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
Union Theological Seminary               smail: 435-52nd Street
(718) 439-3549                                  Brooklyn, NY 11220
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 93 16:48:27 IST
From:         STRAUSS@UNCA.EDU
Subject:      Multi-lingual scholar
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Just saw a review of multi-lingual scholar (MLS) in February Byte:
pp. 219-220.  Has anyone here heard anything about it?  They showed
a page with Hamlet in English, Hebrew Russian and German, but only
2 windows.

Some interesting comments, but nothing about footnotes, indexing, etc.
capabilities. (Where is E. Mendelsohn when we need him to do a review?)

--Bob Strauss
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From:         Michael Dick <DICK@SIENA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: converting NB files to Microsoft word for the Mac
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I've had luck translating large files to Microsoft Word using Software Bridge.
I used the setting for regular Microsoft Word (5.1?) and NOT for the Mac Word.
My wife's Mac at work was able to read those files better than the ones
specifically for Mac Word. Just be sure you put it on a 3 1/2 diskette. I
don't know how the accents will come across. I might suggest doing what I've
done in Akkadian transliteration: before converting change all \e (e grave) to
for instance a @ sign, all e/ to a & etc. Convert and then retro search and
replace inside of Mac Microsoft Word.
        Michael Dick
        DICK@SIENA
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 93 22:09:00 EST
From:         Robert Braham <RMB@CUNYVMS1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Table Mountain
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>From: M.E.Bennun@CEN.EX.AC.UK

Mervyn, next time don't write in Afrikaans code.  Luckily,
I figured it out.  You are quite the recondite poet.
And I thought Celan was hard!  (I leave critical commentary
to others, although I wish I knew what an eek was.)

Que paso/ contigo, xaver? Mah asita?  Was hast du getan?
Schrecklich!--oder stamm tief?  Ausgerechnet!  Mah pitom! Buz meg onyad!
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>Dankie, Assie, vir die nota oor die logo.
Dank Aussie, we're that note or the logo.

>En ek is erns bly oor die reen. Dit was 'n verskriklike orrdeel; ek
>hoop dis oor nou.

One eek is earnest blue or the ream. That was in verse-critical ordeal:  eek
hoop this, or new.

>Weet jy - daar's 'n ou in the VSA (Bob Strauss) wat dink dis mos
>Johannesburg!!!

Wheat chi - there's one out in the USA (Bob Straus) what think this most
Johannesburg!!!

>EK SAL LANGER SKRYWE: EK BELOWE! Korteliks!
EEK SHALL LONGER SCREWED: EEK BELOW! Cufflinks!

>Gebruik NB4 gerus. Dis ok. Daar is 'n bietjie van 'n knars en knetter
>gedeurende die oorgang, maar dis die moeite werd.

Broken NB4 gurus.  This ok.  There is in bitchie van, in cars in neater
during the our gang, more this the mighty word.

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