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From: jtrobin@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (J.T. Robinson)
Subject: Re: Sorry, Gophers!
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:38:28 GMT

weiser@pogo.den.mmc.com (Matt Weiser) writes:

>In article <1992Sep30.205051.4882@news.stolaf.edu>, alvstad@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Joel D Alvstad) writes:
>> 
>> I'm not too worried about the Gophers.  BTW you must have a pretty short memory,
>> because wasn't it a recent as 5-6 years ago that the Buffs went 0-whatever for
>> a couple seasons in a row??  Jeez, if the wouldn't have gotten Eric Bienemy,
>> your Buffs would be no-name losers today just like they were during most of the
>> 80's.
>> 
>> Also, the difference between a top ten team and a winless team in the case of
>> the Gophers is not a whole lot.  If you remember, CU generated 4 INT's at 
>> crutial points of the game, which I give them credit for, but they also gave
>> up 450 yards to a Gopher team, which the mighty Buffs defense should not have
>> done against the Gophers if CU's JV team was in the game.  Also, the Gophers
>> 3 losses have come by a grand total of 14 points.  The only game they deserved
>> to lose was against Pitt last Saturday.  I can't wait to see a team like Kansas
>                                                                           ^^^^^^
>> State pummel CU, then maybe loudmouth woofers like you would shut the hell up
>  ^^^^
>> and leave us humble football fans in peace.  Hey, look what the Miami/Arizona
>> game last week did the the rowdy Miami woof throng.
>> 
>> Joel Alvstad
>> GOPHERS--Pride
>> 
>> Hey, CU fans--see you in the Toilet Bowl!!

>Geeze, first you can't wait for Iowa to beat us, now you can't wait for K-State.
>Gophers plays out of their heads against an apathetic CU ball club and their fans
>actually think they deserve something.  No team deserves to win anything -- they earn it.
>3 losses means they have not earned anything.  If they should have won, they would have.
>I'm not woofing it up for CU nearly as much as I'm giving a told-you-so response.
>And guess what? I told you so!  Iowa is a quality program, but our defense rose
>to the occasion and Detmer came in for the save.  Truly great football teams find
>a way to win ( see Notre Dame for your proof - and I hate Notre Dame )

>To be fair, I guess, I just can't wait for K-State to pummel CU, either.  I'll
>be dead of old age...

>Matt Weiser
>weiser@pogo.den.mmc.com
>Go Buffs!

Matt,

     Each time you post to net the with your opinions about football teams, I wonder if you have even ever watched a football game or know anything about it.
Maybe it is just that you are so biased that you can't tell what is really
From: tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami - FSU (What's up the Huskies Offense Part II)
Date: 4 Oct 92 19:29:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct4.192938.17750
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Oct3.225613.15739@u.washington.edu> yeonwook@hardy.u.washington.edu (Mark Choi) writes:
>
>
>Well...the game's over, Washington won 17 to 10. USC fought hard and
>should definitely move up in the poll standings. Washington's defense was
>excellent, but the offense was horrible. Washington was unable to do 
>ANYTHING with their offense. All of Washington's points came from defensive
>related plays (turnovers, etc.). I credit the poor performance of 
>Washington's defense to the defense of USC. In any case, Washington still
>came away with a win. 
>-- 
>    .  .      +---------------------------------+
>  --|--|      | Mark Yeon Wook Choi             |
>   /.\ |      | yeonwook@hardy.u.washington.edu |
>  --|--|      +---------------------------------+  

A lot of the credit for stopping the UW offense goes to the USC defense.  Some
more goes to the UW offense for not executing.  But a big reason the UW offense
looked bad is Don James' coaching style.  When the Huskies get a two score lead
in a big game, Don throws the game plan out the window, plays conservative    
offense, and lets the defense win the game. For reference, see the second halves
of this years' Nebraska game and last years' USC game.  There were several  
times in the second half of yesterday's game where Hobert came to the line, saw
10 USC players crowding the line of scrimmage, and proceeded to hand off to the
fullback for no gain.  It wins games, but it's not real fun to watch, and it's
going to cost them votes this week.

GT
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: rszczerb@davinci.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Subject: Re: If Michigan had played to win....
Keywords: Michigan-ND
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:39:42 GMT

In article <69968@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:
>
>  Anyone out there have Miami's schedule?
>-- 
Sure ...
	Florida A&M
	Arizona
	Pacific University
	Middle Tennessee State
	Hellen Keller's School for the Blind
	East Orlando Junior High School
        
	... These are their tougher games,
	    I'm not sure about the others.


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: Stanford banned again
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 05:04:55 GMT

wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell) writes:
>UC Berkeley
>yeah, and we don't like paying extra $$$ for big game tickets to 
>pay for Bill Walsh's salary.  

Well, the game's at Berkeley this year, so you won't be paying for
Walsh's salary -- only for Gardner's retirement package.


--Gidi

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers)
Subject: Big 8 news
Summary: OSU's Bostic dropped, ISU's Walden miffed
Keywords: trash, media
Reply-To: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com
Organization: Buffalo Stampede
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:36:22 GMT


Oklahoma State dropped running back Nigel Bostic from its team after his
indictment on a charge of cocaine possession in with intent to sell in
his hometown of Buffalo, NY.  [Who is this guy?  Athlon didn't even list
him on OSU's roster.]

Iowa State coach Jim Walden, complaining that some of his remarks have
been misconstrued and then used against him by Cyclones opponents, told
the media he will stop talking to them if what he says isn't reported
correctly.  "If I keep reading things that say things I don't say, I'm
going to have to end it, gentlemen," Walden said.  "I don't want that to
come off like I'm scolding you, but damn it, I'm getting tired of things
I'm not saying showing up on people's bulletin boards.  My problems are
enough here, man."
-- 
Kevin Rodgers				kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com
Martin Marietta MS A16401		(303) 790-3971
116 Inverness Dr. East
Englewood CO 80112 USA			GO BUFFS!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN)
Subject: Re: ACC This Week: Predictions and Such
Originator: currin@poult1.bae.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:14:29 GMT


In article <BvJ3Mt.2Fz@rice.edu>, rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera) writes:
|>Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
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|>From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera)
|>Subject: Re: ACC This Week: Predictions and Such
|>Message-ID: <BvJ3Mt.2Fz@rice.edu>
|>Sender: news@rice.edu (News)
|>Organization: Rice University
|>References: <9210011929.AA12584@walt.disney> <009617D0.190E4380@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU> <1992Oct2.204532.28867@ncsu.edu>
|>Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 00:40:05 GMT+5:00
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|>
|>In article <1992Oct2.204532.28867@ncsu.edu> jvbutera@grad09.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera) writes:
|>
|>>As far as Clemson, it's a question of who's more powerful, IPTAY or 
|>>the Clemson Administration.  IPTAY'ed replace any non 8-3 or better 
|>>coach in a heartbeat, whereas I think the administration wants Hatfield
|>
|>And all of us ACCers know what IPTAY "really " stands for :)
|>
|>(I dare the uninformed to take a guess ...)
|
   I know! I know!. But I ain't saying nuthin. The worst flame war I've in 
   (on this group) was from that very acronym.
    RC
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:35:15 EDT
From: Kurt Ludwick <KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Best Marching Band -- Blue Band ?
 <92275.214458KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> <92275.224845MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu>

In article <92275.224845MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu>, Spiro the Spiny Goldfish
<MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu> says:


>Music majors *think* they don't have enough time. Many others disagree.

Good point. They -do- have to take a heckuva lot of those 1-credit courses
(aka 3-credit courses in disguise),though.

But, there's no doubt to anyone, anywhere, that engineers DO have time for
marching bands, right? ;-)

------------
Kurt Ludwick
------------
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: Re: Could there be 3 nat'l champs?
Organization: American Math. Society
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:29:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.160150.29145@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> wilbanks@spot.Colorado.EDU (Wendell Gee) writes:

   >I was wondering earlier - 
   >Colorado goes 11-0, with a Orange Bowl bid,
   >A&M goes 11-0, with a Cotton Bowl bid,
   >Washington goes 11-0, with a Rose Bowl bid,
   >Tennessee goes 11-0, with a Sugar Bowl bid.

   >Does anyone see a lil problem?

Yes, the problem is that Washington, if it goes undefeated entering
the Rose Bowl, with then lose to undefeated Michigan.

   >Weirder things have been known to happen, but I can't see Tennessee, A&M, 
   >or Washington losing this year. Colorado has an excellent chance at 11-0,
   >as does Florida State, Virginia, and Penn State.

Colorado has an excellent chance to lose to Nebraska or Kansas.  Penn
State plays Miami and Notre Dame, I think.  Look for them to lose one
of those games.  


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Subject: Re: ND-Purdue (saw the game at ND)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:30:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.042404.12068@news.acns.nwu.edu> fish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Eric West) writes:
>
>Hmmmm...
>
>Sept. 5  Notre Dame 42, Northwestern 7
>Sept. 26 Notre Dame 48, Purdue 0
>
>Does this mean that Northwestern is 13 points better than Purdue? :) :) :)
>
>We'll find out Saturday...

	Hey, you may not need those smileys...  Going by this, Boston
	College should be 14 points better than the Irish.  Now *that*
	would be worth seeing...

-- 
-------------------------------
| Randy Peppler               |
| Illinois State Water Survey |
| peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu    |
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: lavelle@aardvark.lerc.nasa.gov ()
Subject: Re: FSU-Miami-ND
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 22:21:11 GMT

>Unfortunately, this probably won't happen.  It is obvious from the polls that 
>the "wonderfully intelligent" sportswriters and such are treating the tie as an
>ND loss.  The only way ND will even get close to a title match-up on New Year's
>Day is if Miami wins this weekend, and Notre Dame beats an UNdefeated Penn 
>State.  In other words, A LOT has to happen with other teams in order for ND to
>have a shot.  It's unfortunate.  Who knows though, maybe a miracle can happen! 
>:) :) :) :)
>
>My guess is that whoever loses the game this weekend STILL won't be ranked 
>below ND, even if we crush Stanford.  Media bias at its best. ;)
>-- 
>           Susan E. Schudt                    0 0
>     Dept. of Chemical Engineering
>      Goooooooooooooooooo  IRISH!           \_____/
>             Win Twins!

Notre Dame fans complaining about media bias??? You must be kdding.

Go Bruins!!!!!               __     __   ________         __           ___
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(Pvt. Cheeseburger)        / / /  / / / \  _____\/      / / /        / / _ \
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: todd@hector.uucp (24102-todd)
Subject: Re: #1 Washington vs #2 Penn State
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 12:14:16 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.092040.9261@beaver.cs.washington.edu> rcsaito@cs.washington.edu (Richard Saito) writes:
>In article <92277.103054MJR127@psuvm.psu.edu> mark rieker <MJR127@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>         That's right! It time for the 1992 version of the nets' favorite
>>            game..... How Penn State will win the MNC!!
>>
>>         O.k. can anybody find a problem with this..................
>>
>>         -Washington goes undefeated the rest of the year
>>
>>         -Penn State goes undefeated the rest of the year
>>
>>         -UCLA goes undefeated in the PAC-10 this year
>>
>>        If these 3 things occur, then UCLA and Washington will be tied for
>>        the PAC-10 championship (they don't play each other).  Since UCLA
>>        has gone longer without going to the Rose Bowl, they get to go
>>        (where they get crushed by Michigan).  Washington exercises the
>>        option to bail out of the coalition if the MNC is involved, and
>>        takes the big bucks to play Penn State, who should be ranked #2
>>        or #3 after beating Miami and Notre Dame.  Of course, this assumes
>>        Washington doesnt pull a Miami and puss out on playing the highest
>>        available team.
>>
>>        Well, whadda ya think?
>
>Penn State has to go to the Blockbuster (I think its the Blockbuster) bowl
>if they win more than 6 games.  The contract is already signed.  End of
>story.
>
>-- 
>-Richard

IF UCLA and Washington both go undefeated, and IF Penn State
goes undefeated, then yes, it is
possible that the Blockbuster Bowl could secure
Washington to play Penn State.  It's a dream scenario.
However, I think the new bowl coalition will work very
hard to prevent that from happening.  Right now, though,
it's one game at a time for me!  Carolyn Todd
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers)
Subject: Re: Canes/FSU
Summary: Ward can run
Organization: Buffalo Stampede
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:03:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.174452.6518@makesys.com> john@makesys.com (John Turman) writes:
>Now if anyone thinks that the Canes won't be focused on FSU this 
>weekend, you've got another thing coming. 

I doubt anyone -- especially Bowden and the Noles -- thinks the Canez
won't be focused on Saturday; that's what's so scary, not the Orange
Bowl streak.

>Charlie Ward has never played against a defense with as much speed
>and capacity for mayhem in his brief starters role as he will see
>this Saturday. I guarantee the Hurricane football team that shows
>up this Saturday will not be the same sleepwalkers that played last
>Saturday.
>
>He'll be lucky to get out of the OB with just 5 interceptions. 
>The Canes defense will be gunning for him on every down. I
>seriously doubt that he will finish the game for the Noles. My prediction
>Canes 41 FSU 17 and I feel I'm being benevolent to FSU here.

I think the Canez are going to flush Ward into running, but he won't
throw on the run.  That'll reduce Miami's chances of picking off so many
of his passes, and Ward will hurt them by picking up big yards on the
ground.

Ob. pick: FSU 16, Miami-Coral Gables 14.
-- 
Kevin Rodgers				kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com
Martin Marietta MS A16401		(303) 790-3971
116 Inverness Dr. East
Englewood CO 80112 USA			GO BUFFS!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight)
Subject: Re: MSU vs. Alabama prediction (was Re: Gators are DONE!!!)
Organization: Jes Grew Carriers -- Metaphysical Bunko Squad 
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 06:22:38 GMT

<JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>Bama's offense may be getting on track (I freely admit that this is a
>highly qualified observation; scoring on South Carolina isn't like scoring
>against the Citadel, after all (oohh, did I write that?)); this could 

:-)  Just ax Arkansas which is easier...  And the Gamecocks have the best
defensive crew they've had since that thrashing they took in the Gator Bowl
at the hands of Pitt...

>Right now, though, I'm working on the necessary hexes to bring Heath Shuler
>& Co. crashing down to reality on the [echo effect] THIRD SATURDAY IN
>OCTOBERRRrrrrrrr . . .

My friend, I hope my connaisance is stronger than your'n...I'm busy with
the goofer dust myself, but I'm working against the Tide.  Wish that I
was on ol' Rocky Top...
 
Trevor Bauknight         trev@hubcap.clemson.edu    ...gatech!hubcap!trev
 
                                                     +-----------+
                                                     | _> ###    |
                  go Gamecocks...                    |     |     |
                                                     +-----------+
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Re: Virginia WINS
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:43:33 GMT

> asj4j@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (JonaX) writes:
>
>I wouldn't exactly call Georgia Tech, Clemson, or Florida padded up
>wussy teams.....now W&M....those guys are some wussies....HA HA HA !!!
>U.Va will be in the top 10 in two weeks...and if Kirby, Slade, and the
>offensive line keep it up they'll knock off Florida.
>
>							

UVA DONT PLAY FLORIDA!#@!@

Jezz, youd think someone from UVA would know this?
How would you feel if people started calling the turkeys from tech
'Virginia'

Repeat after me:
Florida is in the SEC
Florida STATE is in the ACC

Florida is in the SEC
Florida STATE is in the ACC

another handy way to tell the two teams apart: Florida STATE is the 
undefeated one.

-rob
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: WEEKLY TOP 25
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:03:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.151829.9929@den.mmc.com> jerdman@evans.den.mmc.com (Joe Erdman) writes:
>
>It is about time the rankings voted in a half way decent manner.  After next
>weekend, Miami will be ranked even lower.  I hope FSU slaughters them!
					    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
But they won't!

>Erdy

Njan
From: jr10847@meibm21.cen.uiuc.edu (Jonathan Lee Reeve)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Ex-Purdue QB Brian Fox
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:06:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvCt2z.B6u
Organization: CCSO College of Engineering Workstations

In article <1992Sep29.171615.5692@en.ecn.purdue.edu>, lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Patrick W Lauson) writes:
|> In article <BvBq7v.AI4@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> greens@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Shawn Green) writes:
|> >Does anybody in netland remember this guy?  He was really good as a freshman,
|> >but then transferred to somewhere in Florida.  Anyone know where, and if he
|> >ever played / plays?
|> >
|> >
|> Last I heard, he went to Florida.  Big mistake.  He's probably the backup
|> QB behind Matthews.  Any Gators verify this?
|> 
|> -- 
|> ------------------------------------------------------------------
|> | Pat Lawson                     :  Go Buckeyes!!!!!!            |
|> | lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu       :    Scarlet and Gray Rules!!!! |
|> ------------------------------------------------------------------
     Brian Fox, who won Big Ten Freshman of the year
     honors while at Purdue, transferred to the University
     of Florida (easily the finest athletic and academic
     institution on the planet).  After sitting out a year,
     Fox saw some action as a second/third string quarterback
     under Steve Spurriers awesome "Air-Florida" offense.

     At the beginning of this season, however, his athletic
     scholarship was rescinded, because the Gators are simply
     too deep at quarterback.  He was however granted an  
     academic scholarship and remains at the University of 
     Florida as a graduate student in the mechanical engineering
     department.
      
     ************************************************************
     *  GATORS RULE       
     *  JR10847@COEWL.CEN.UIUC.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: Kill Files (was Re: Sorry, Gophers!)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:28:56 GMT


In article <1992Oct2.141657.19119@ryn.mro4.dec.com> murphy@rock.enet.dec.com () writes:
>
>I have been using the usenet for three to four years but have never felt the
>need to figure out how to make a kill file unitl now.  Can someone e-mail
>me instructions on how to kill file this goombah?  I would say the mountain air
>is affecting his brain, but I lived in Niwot, Co for 20 years and can't come 
>close to his level of nimroddishness.

Why don't you go shave your head and put some ice on it? That should cool you
down a bit...

>John Murphy           murphy@rock.enet.dec.com

Idiot par excellence!!!

Njan
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: Cal 42, Oregon St. 0
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 19:07:16 GMT

In article <1992Oct04.173857.5724@CS.ORST.EDU> paasch@engr.cs.orst.edu (Bob Paasch) writes:

>In article <1am0inINN9o5@agate.berkeley.edu> wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell) writes:

>>The only thing missing from this game (surprisingly) was a lack of a strong
>>running game on the part of California's Russell White.  I think White
>>only had 75 yards on the day.  However, White was pulled out of the game
>>in the third quarter because the Bears were leading by so much.  On the
>>one hand, it's a nice thing to do to the opposing team.  However, it 
>>hurts his Heisman chances.  I guess they're seeing the inevitability
>>of Faulk winning the Heisman because San Diego State plays in the 
>>non-defense WAC.

>Pettibone had stated that they were going to key on the run.  They can't
>pass defense, so they have to do something.  It WILL cost Russell in the
>eyes of the voters, but it's still a long way to December.  I suspect a
>good showing in a national game (maybe UCLA or the big game, depending
>on what happens next weekend) would help his chances.  I'd say all
>three Florida QB's slipped some this weekend, as did Mirer.

All true, but White's running a real uphill battle for the Heisman.
His main obstacle is not Marshall Faulk, but the Cal coaches, who
have made it plain that they don't want a one-man show on offense.
White is being used as one of several very good backs on the team.
Toss in the potent passing attack, and it's not easy for White to
stand out on the Bears.

It's kind of a shame, because I'm convinced that were he to get 25-30
carries every game, he'd have 1500-1800 yards on the season, and would
have an excellent chance for the award, the East Coast Media Bias [tm]
-- 
Michael Zimmers                                    |  Home:  408 996 1984
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