From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Highlander: Series and third movie
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:04:55 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <92283.082655JW83HISW@MIAMIU.BITNET> JW83HISW@MIAMIU.BITNET writes:
>(Stuff deleted and paraphrased to save space)
>Brian Perler responds:
>>Except that in the movie, no one seemed to know what the prize was.
>>Conner only found out AFTER he killed Kurgen and won the prize.  That
>>either means the show occurs after the first movie (which is rather
>>pointless) or someone didn't pay enough attention to the first movie.
> 
>No, Conner doesn't know what the Prize will *DO* until after he's won
>it.  Back in the 16th century, Ramirez makes a reference that it's a
>great power, but no one actually states they don't know what it is.
>Even if Ramirez didn't know in the 1500's, that doesn't mean that Mac-
>Leod hasen't found out in the ensuing four centuries.

Possibly.  Although if Ramirez couldn't find out after 2400 years,
I doubt Connor could in 400.  It's possible, though.

>     One quick point: The show can't be taking place after the first
>movie, Conner is still immortal.

That was kinda my point.  If Connor knows what the Prize is, it
must be after he got it, at the end of the first movie.  But the
series can't occur after the first movie, thus we have a problem
with the timeframe of the series.

>>There is no mystical connection between holy land and the immortal's
>>powers.  In Highlander, Ramirez tells Conner somthing like, "You're
>>safe only on holy ground.  It's tradition.  None of us will violate
>>that."  The immortals don't attack each other on holy ground because
>>WON'T, not because they CAN'T.  To support this, look at the scene
>>in the church near the end of Highlander, after Kurgen kills Castigir.
>>After Kurgen tells Conner about how he raped Heather after killing
>>Ramirez, Conner is ready to attack Kurgen then and there, until Kurgen
>>reminds Conner of the tradition.  Now, why this tradition exists, I
>>can't say, but that's all it is, a tradition.
> 
>Interesting, but then how can Duncan be safe on long abandoned Native
>American holy ground?  SOMEHOW, the Immortals must be able to sense
>a holy place, not just have someone tell them about it.  Obviously,
>Kurgen is not Catholic, but he recognizes a church as holy ground.
>I suspect some kind of mystical link, but nothing so powerful as their
>immortality.  Duncan seems to think he can get out of the game by
>staying on holy ground, although Conner disagrees.

Okay, they probably have some way to sense it.  But that's it.
There's nothing to physically prevent them from fighting each other
on holy ground.  And Duncan CAN get out of the "Game" by staying
on holy ground.  If none of the other immortals can attack him
there, and if he never leaves the area, they can't do anything
to him, right?

>Mainly, I'm just trying to come up with somthing that would possibly
>make the third movie better than the second.  Considering the uproar
>from fans(plus the potential of the series), even the Hollywood types
>must realize that the third movie should be like the first.  All the
>interviews with Lambert indicate this.  Maybe I'm being a super -
>optimist, but I have hopes for the third movie.

Yeah, well, I had hopes for the second movie and the series, and
we all know how THEY turned out...

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