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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:55:02 CST
From:         Larry Holder <##09@UTMARTN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Forcing page boundaries in high level code

> For example, is there some way to make various groups of paragraphs to be
> aligned at an even 2K or 4K (or whatever) page.  The object here is to
> allow portions of a COBOL program, for example to be loaded into the same
> physical page of memory - or at least to begin at the same page.   (And,
> this should be for a potentially gigantic COBOL program.)  The academic
> reason for this is to potentially reduce paging by a large COBOL (or PL/I)
> program because at various points it's only referencing other code which
> is within the same Page or group of pages in memory.

You might want to read about"overlays" in the COBOL Compiler & Library
Programmer's Guide (SC28-6478).  I think it addresses your question.
Quoting from page 113:  "If a program is too large to be contained
in the number of bytes available in virtual storage, it can still be
executed by means of an overlay structure.  An overlay structure
permits the reuse of storage locations..."

Larry Holder,  Sr. Programmer/Analyst            Bitnet: ##09@UTMARTN
The University of Tennessee at Martin            Phone:  901-587-7890
Martin, TN  38238                                Fax:    901-587-7841

Software: VM/ESA 1.0, VSE/ESA 1.1, CICS/VSE 2.1, COBOL-II, DL/I, SQL/DS
Hardware: IBM 9221-150 with 9336 FBA dasd
PSW:      (Personal Status Words): Saved by grace (Romans 1:16 & 8:38)
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 16:09:59 EST
From:         "Duane D. Weaver" <WEAVER@OHSTVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      OPS/MVS

Is anyone out there running OPR/MVS from Legent (formerly Goal Systems)?
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 11:23:10 EST
From:         Russ Donhauser <A024021@RUTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Using IKJTSO00 for authorized pgms

Greetings,
  I am writing a program for use on TSO, which needs to be authorized.
This is so it can do an ACF2 call.  I have looked at IKJTSO00 and am
a little confused on how to fill it in.

If module A calls B and B calls C and C is the one that needs to
be authorized, do I just add C to the list or do I have to  do A, B and C?
Which list is it, the AUTHPGM, authorized program list or is it
AUTHTSF, the APF-authorized program list?  It is executing out
of a APF'ed STEPLIB. (I would pick AUTHTSF, but what does AUTHPGM mean?)

I could experiment, but since it requires an IPL, I would like to
get it right the first time.  The system is MVS/XA 2.2 with
TSO/E for XA 2.1.0

Thanks

Russ Donhauser        RUTGERS, The State University of New Jersey
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:25:46 CST
From:         Larry Holder <##09@UTMARTN.BITNET>
Subject:      PC Based COBOL Products

> I am looking for PC products used for developing and
> maintaining mainframe COBOL applications.

We don't have any of their stuff (yet), but I am impressed by the
products I've seen demonstrated from Micro-Focus.

-------------------------------
Micro-Focus, Inc.
2465 East Bayshore Rd.
Palo Alto, Calif. 94303

Phone: (415) 856-4161
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Larry Holder,  Sr. Programmer/Analyst            Bitnet: ##09@UTMARTN
The University of Tennessee at Martin            Phone:  901-587-7890
Martin, TN  38238                                Fax:    901-587-7841

Software: VM/ESA 1.0, VSE/ESA 1.1, CICS/VSE 2.1, COBOL-II, DL/I, SQL/DS
Hardware: IBM 9221-150 with 9336 FBA dasd
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 10:14:14 EST
From:         Dennis Caffi <ASMIDCC@VM7CG.HQ.AF.MIL>
Subject:      Deleting messages in SYS1.BRODCAST
Comments: To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@ricevm1.rice.edu>

  I have what I hope is a simple question. Is there a way to delete mail
for a specific userid from SYS1.BRODCAST ?  I don't want to log on to the
userids in question. One userid has over 1400 messages queued and another
userid is no longer in use because the person has left but the id is
still around. Thanks in advance for the help !

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Dennis Caffi                                IP: asmidcc@vm7cg.hq.af.mil
Senior MVS Systems Programmer
Grumman Data Systems / U.S. Air Force
Pentagon, Washington, D.C.
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 11:08:13 CET
From:         Christian.J.Reichetzeder@AWIIMC12.IMC.UNIVIE.AC.AT
Subject:      Re: STORAGE BELOW 16M LINE

On Wed, 4 Nov 1992 16:07:00 PST Leonard D Woren said:
>This discussion now belongs on IBM-MAIN.  I suggest that if it's to
>continue, someone move it there.
Done -  the original  posts are  on JES2-L.  They deal  with DIAGNOSE  for MVS
guests and the required LRAs.
>
>Hah!  Try doing an LRA for page 0 when you're running V=R. [...]
Interesting - shouldn't it always be in the range 0-4k?
>
>MVS/SP V1R3 supports up to 64M real, but only 16M virtual.  LRA *will*
>return addresses that don't fit in 24 bits in that case.
Ok, I wasn't clear in my wording (and we didn't get MVS before 3.1.0).
Of course  with support  I meant  both real  and virtual.  But I'd  expect the
macros (GETMAIN e.g.)  to let you exercise control according  to the functions
of the control program.
>
>Anyway, with reconfigurable storage, especially running under VM, I
>suspect that you will see real addresses > 16M.
If you  have (online) storage above  16M (whether from native  mode or because
you defined  the machine with more  than 16M in  VM) you likely will.  If your
machine has 16M or less in the VM directory you will not.

Christian
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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 1992 04:13:05 EST
From:         Fran Hensler <FJH@SRU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Upper/Lower Case Exit for CICS

On Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:24:29 CST Larry Holder said:
>> We run CICS 2.1.2 in MVS/ESA 4.2 amd we are looking for an exit to allow
>> upper and lower case transactions for a case tool project.  We have
>> checked the SHARE tape for CICS and were unable to find anything there.
>> Does anyone know of such an exit?  Please let me know. Thanks
>
>Here's ours.  It is LINK'd to from any application.
>It works for both 1.7 and 2.1.
>
But it might not work in 3.1.  I understand that the TCTTE will no longer
be available in to application programs in 3.1.

Francis J. Hensler, CDP                     BITNET: FJH@SRU
Software Support Specialist                 Phone: (412) 738-2033
Slippery Rock University Computer Center    PANET:     8-654-2033
Slippery Rock, PA  16057-1326  USA   "Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock"
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:01:40 MST
From:         Rita Jones <ROMEROR@ARIZVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: problem opening a vsam file

The status keys are describe in the VS COBOL II Language Reference.
Specifically,  pages 180-185 in manual GC26-4047-6.

RITA E. JONES

SYSTEM PROGRAMMER, SR.
CCIT COMPUTER OPERATIONS                    PHONE:   (602) 621-2361
UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA                       FAX:     (602) 621-8668
TUCSON, AZ  85721                           BITNET:  ROMEROR@ARIZVM1
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 12:18:23 EST
From:         Arthur Gutowski <AGUTOWS@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: PSF commands
              5 Nov 1992 09:21:20 EST from <ASMIDCC@VM7CG.HQ.AF.MIL>

On Thu, 5 Nov 1992 09:21:20 EST Dennis Caffi asked:
>
>2.) How do I bring PSF/MVS down (I am cnaceling it now) ?
>
I'm pretty sure that by draining all PSF-controlled printers, it shuts
itself down.  Least, that's the way it seems to work on our MVS 3.1.3
test system where we're running it.
/Art
From: ##09@UTMARTN.BITNET (Larry Holder)
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Subject: Re: Forcing Page Boundaries in High Level Code
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:12:12 GMT
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> > Specifically, I would like to know how to force portions (plural) of the
> > PROCEDURE DIVISION in COBOL to begin at new page boundaries.
>
> Try EJECT. It can be in either area A or area B. I believe
> Fortran and PL/1 also support EJECT as a inline compiler
> directive.
> (ref. VS COBOL II Application Programming Reference (GC26-4047),
> pg. 347)

EJECT will only affect the compiler printout.  It has no effect upon
the code generated, any more than TITLE or SPACE or EJECT directives
do in assembler.

/Larry
From: SSTSCES@VCUVM1.BITNET (Charles Scott)
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Subject: MVS Performance
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:17:43 GMT
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 *** Reply to note of 11/12/92 13:57
 Rob, You're right.  Big question.  I'll give you my opinion which is based
 on working in several size shops from 3 to 100 system people.  Take what
 you like and feel free to ignore the rest.  It's just one man's opinion.

 The size is important because a large shop just takes more time to keep
 up with.  There are shops that don't bother to plan or can't and just wait
 for the crisis to react.  If you can do that, keep your customers happy, and
 buy more when you need it, a minimal performance/capacity management effort
 is OK.  I tend to support the separation of system maintenance and daily hands
 on work from performance work.  It is just too tempting for most people to be
 objective when looking to justify something 'new'.

 One thing most shops fail to do is define when to tune.  It sounds too simple
 but you can spend a lot of time tinkering and getting very little done.  Some
 base tuning efforts on customer complaint, staff opinion, or something else.
 This can end up with an inconsistent effort.  If you can, set guidelines for
 tuning.  Service levels like: online response time, print queue times, batch
 execution times, etc.  Internal guidelines are also useful like : disk
 service times, paging rates, swap time, etc.

 Hope this helps.  I'll be glad to discuss if you want to mail me directly.
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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:43:00 PST
From:         Leonard D Woren <LDW@USCMVSA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: STORAGE BELOW 16M LINE

On Thu, 5 Nov 1992 11:08:13 CET,
   Christian.J.Reichetzeder@AWIIMC12.IMC.UNIVIE.AC.AT said:
> On Wed, 4 Nov 1992 16:07:00 PST Leonard D Woren said:
> >Hah!  Try doing an LRA for page 0 when you're running V=R. [...]
> Interesting - shouldn't it always be in the range 0-4k?

You would think so, but page 0 in a V=R machine is a special case.
I'm sure it has something to do with prefixing.  I never researched it
in detail after fixing a program to account for this case.  The
program displays storage, including the storage key.  The ISKE was
failing on addresses in the first 4K.  Finally I decided to look at
the real address returned by LRA, and discovered that in a 4M V=R
guest (this was under VM/SP or HPO, R3, on a 4381), LRA on an address
of 0 returned X'00400000'.  ISKE then failed on this.  The fix was to
skip the LRA if the address was < X'1000'.

/Leonard
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From: franz@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Chris W.. Franz)
Subject: questions about software
Summary: software,ibm
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:24:20 GMT


Posted for another person.

--- begin post ---

I have been called for a final interview with Baxter Healthcare
and I would like to ask a few questions about the hardware
and software supported by Baxter. I would just like an overview
and not a detailed answer. The Softwares are as follows:
1.      ABEND-AID       2.      ACF/NCP
3.      ACF/VTAM        4.      CA-Optimizer
5.      CA-Scheduler    6.      CICS/XA
8.      Datavantage     9.      FILE-AID
10.     IIS             11.     Infoman
12.     Inspector       12      ISPF/PDF
13.     Microfocus Workbench    14.     Netview
15.     Panvalet        16.     Phoenix/DS
17.     RACF            18.     Recorder
19.     UCC             20.     Telon
21.     Easytrieve      22.     QAE

I would also like to get some information about the ASAP inventry-order
system. Answers will be really appreciated. My E-mail address is:

        AZNNH@ASUACVAX.INRE.ASU.edu or

        AZNNH@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU


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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:01:34 -0500
From:         "(Joseph D. McMahon)" <xrjdm@CALVIN.GSFC.NASA.GOV>
Subject:      Re: PSF Commands
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Arthur Gutowski writes:
>
> On Thu, 5 Nov 1992 09:21:20 EST Dennis Caffi asked:
> >
> >2.) How do I bring PSF/MVS down (I am cnaceling it now) ?
> >
> I'm pretty sure that by draining all PSF-controlled printers, it shuts
> itself down.  Least, that's the way it seems to work on our MVS 3.1.3
> test system where we're running it.
> /Art
>
And don't forget to $TPRTx,MODE=JES. That breaks 'em all loose from their
interface with PSF.

 --- Joe M.
From: CSYSMAS@UCLAMVS.BITNET (Michael Stein)
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Subject: Pascal record formats? (pgm wanted)
Date: 6 Nov 92 00:58:00 GMT
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Anyone have anything like this?  Or any suggestions?

I need to determine the storage layout of some pascal records
(structures).  For each field I need:

 - offset to the start of the field
 - the length of the field
 - the base type of this field
 - the name of the field

If the field is a record then I need the sub-fields listed too
(as well as sub-sub fields etc).

I picture a program which reads the pascal source and prints
the above information for each record encountered.

I probably need source to such a program if it isn't designed for
IBM's VS/Pascal.  I assuming that it will take a small amount of
altering to match my system as far as extentions and/or storage
layout for basic types.

I'd prefer this in C, but pascal is ok (or PL/1? or assembler?
or ...)
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:31:07 EST
From:         SOMITCW@VCCSCENT.BITNET
Subject:      problem opening a vsam file

 On Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:05:09 EDT, STAN@VM.TEMPLE.EDU wrote:
>A student teaching assistant here has a VS COBOL II program which
>attempts to open a VSAM KSDS file which is varying in record length and
>also has an alternate index with duplicate entries. - - -

    Your student has defined the PATH before the load.
 Suggested order is:

 1.  DEFINE CLUSTER
 2.  REPRO or load the data.
 3.  DEFINE AIX
 4.  BLDINDEX
 5.  DEFINE PATH
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Subject: MVS Performance
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:09:33 GMT
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rob ryerson had some interesting questions to ask about assigning the duties
of MVS "performance management/tuning":

> Does the 'MVS' systems programmer standardly perform the function?

i worked in an EDS shop where the systems programmer did performance changes,
but only as he had the time left from other, more pressing assignments.  he
would accept requests from both management and the operators, and prioritise
them according to time required for processing the change, benefits evolved
from the change and possible negative ramifications of the change.
this was a small-ish shop, and he was the only MVS-dedicated systems
programmer we had.

> Do some shops have performance specalists, or possibly contract out
> for the function?

when i worked at SOHIO (before it became BP America) there were two systems
programmers who were assigned to do nothing BUT tinker with the system to
grease the flow of jobs' throughput.  this also included easing the burden on
the operators by simplification of entered commands.
this was a relatively large, MVS-only shop, with a full-time programming
staff of approximately 40 to 50 people.

> Is this possibly a function of shop size, experience level of staff, as to
> who does the work?

yes, obviously.  time plays an important factor, also, as does the
reliability of the day-to-day production programs.  if your tech support crew
is constantly scouring JCL to figure out "where did this job abend THIS
time?!?!?!" then they will have very little time to work on system tweaking.
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:33:00 PST
From:         Michael Stein <CSYSMAS@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Using EXTRACT macro to detect execution under TSO

> Several months ago, I asked how to determine, from Assembler, whether
> the program is executing under TSO.  You collectively pointed me to
> the EXTRACT macro, which I've been using happily for months to do just
> that.  Suddenly, it's not working, and I'm at a loss to explain why.
> I would appreciate any insight into what's wrong with the following
> code.  That is, I want to know why I get a high-order byte of X'00' in
> TSOFLAG from EXTRACT when I execute the program from the terminal!

EXTRACT FIELDS=(TSO) returns the *address* of the flag byte, not
the byte itself.
>          EXTRACT TSOFLAG,'S',FIELDS=(TSO) Get flag indicating TSO
>          TM    TSOFLAG,TSOYES
>          BO    TSO

Instead:
           L     R1,TSOFLAG
           TM    0(R1),TSOYES
From: RAUDETTE@VM1.ULAVAL.CA (Rodolphe Audette)
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Subject: Re: STORAGE BELOW 16M LINE
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:12:43 GMT
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     MVS actually uses a PSA other than absolute page 0 even when running
in a uniprocessor. I think one reason is that some permanently assigned
locations in ABSOLUTE storage coincide with some permanently assigned
locations in REAL storage. For example, absolute locations 384-447 are
assigned to the general-register save area during the store-status
operation, while real locations 384-447 are assigned to the
general-register save area during a machine check interruption. So if
the store-status operation is executed prior to an IPL for a stand-alone
dump, the store-status registers will overlay the machine-check
registers, unless they are assigned different save areas by means of
prefixing.

    I think (but I'm not sure) that another reason for prefixing is that
a uniprocessor can suddenly become a multiprocessor if a processor is
varied online after IPL. I know MVS can sometimes determine, depending
on the model, that a uniprocessor just can't become a multiprocessor,
but why make special cases?

                                        Rodolphe Audette
                                        Laval University
                                        Quebec City
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Subject:      Do you know any quick and easy way to t
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LI@yap.las.uiuc.edu tells us:

> I need to transfer a lot of files between two PS/2 computers. they are
> not connected to any network.
> If you happen to know some quick and easy way to transfer files between
> PCs, please let me know.  I would appreciate very much your time and help!

uh, how about swapping a disk or two?  :)





 Speech Communication Department
 University of Illinois
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From:         "(Bill McKeown)" <snowjm@UNX.SAS.COM>
Subject:      3420 channel extenders
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We have a string of IBM 3420-8 tape drives with a 3803-2 controller that
are greater than 200 feet from the processor and thus, we need to have
channel extenders to get them to work.  We currently use IBM 3044
channel extenders to attach 3x74 controllers in another building, but
our IBM CEs tell us that 3044s are not supported for 3420.  We are
looking for alternatives to accomplish our task.  Additionally, in about
3 months, these same tape drives will be moving to another building away
from the processor and these same channel extenders will have to do the
trick for the long distance move (1 mile).

My question is, does anybody use channel extenders on their 3420 round
tape drives?  If so, what kind do you use and are you satisfied with
the vendor?

Any information you might provide will be greatly appreciated.

--
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From: Wool-D@yap.las.uiuc.edu (Woolbert 2)
Subject: Do you know any quick and easy way to transfer files
Organization: Speech Comm, University of Illinois
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:59:06 GMT
Keywords: PS/2 file transfer

I need to transfer a lot of files between two PS/2 computers. they are 
not connected to any network. 

If you happen to know some quick and easy way to transfer files between
PCs, please let me know.  I would appreciate very much your time and help!


- Li li

LI@yap.las.uiuc.edu
 Speech Communication Department
 University of Illinois
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From:         Dan Sline <SLINE@ITHACA.BITNET>
Subject:      System 36 information requested

        Hello, I'm new to the list and I'm doing a systems analysis project for
a class, and I need some information on an IBM System 36.  Any information on
Dial in access, operating systems, programs, and any other related topics would
be greatly appreciated.

        Thank you in advance,

        Dan Sline

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 10:49:00 PST
From:         Gregory Plucinski 257508 <GRZES@PLWATU22.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: BITNET in MVS

>     .our  connection is now based on a link  RSCS-NJE  to  RSCS-NJE  with
>      another  site; are there any pre-determined set  of  parameters  for
>      using o link JES2-NJE to RSCS-NJE ?

      no, JES2-NJE is the same as RSCS-NJE  (communication protocol)
      both can be SNA (VTAM , NCP ) or
      BSC (EP)
      it's only your local definition

>     .which  is the software to interact with BITNET ? Is there  a  MAILER
>      for MVS and an interface for OfficeVision - DISOSS / MVS ?

      MAILER for MVS is UCLA - MAIL
      distributed by University of California
      e-mail CSYSMAS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU

      it's working with TSO


>        Our MVS environment is composed of :
>    .MVS  3.1.3          .VTAM 3.3         .NCP 5.2 (NCR/COMTEN)
>    .JES2 3.1.3          .CICS 3.1.1       .EP  5e  (NCR/COMTEN)
>        Thanks for any help.
      You need TSO for mailer (I think you have it, it's standard).

Gregory
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