HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: nkill
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:25:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.021554.28446@adobe.com> mmwang@adobe.com
(Michael Wang) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.232936.196@fid.morgan.com> sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
>>I don't like the form of AA that requires discrimination.  I'm in
>>favor of the initial meaning (e.g. advertise your opening in Veterans'
>>Weekly and Minorities Monthly as well as the Wall St. Journal, then
>>hire the best applicant.)
>
>Suppose we have the following situation. In 1990, employee A who is
>female, is not given promotion, which is instead given to employee B,
>a male who was much less qualified than A. Despite this clear-case of
>sex discrimination, A stays with the company. In 1992, the same
>position becomes available again. However, this time, employee C, a
>male who is much more qualified than A is also in the running for the
>promotion. Should A be granted preferential treatment and be given the
>promotion over C (who is better qualified) because of the
>discrimination against her in the past?

A can be compensated by the company for the discrimination.  Why
should C suffer because somebody else discriminated?

More importantly, suppose they now grant the preferential treatment to
A.  C has now been a victim of discrimination; in 1994, the position
opens up again and now D is more qualified.  Should C get it anyway?
When does this end?

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:23:49 GMT
	<JMD.92Nov17135431@lion.bear.com> <1992Nov17.230759.19848@netcom.com>
	<JMD.92Nov18110148@lion.bear.com>
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: jmd@bear.com's message of 18 Nov 92 16:01:48 GMT



Here I am, following up my own message:

In article <JMD.92Nov18110148@lion.bear.com> jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) writes:

   As for viruses, something has to help keep the population down, since
   we humans can seem to figger out how to use birth control... :-(
	     ^^^
		that's supposed to be _can't_

Spidey!!!

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: looks
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 18:04:18 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.120258.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> phys224@csc.canterbury.ac.nz writes:
>hello everyone,i'd like to hear peoples opinions on several things...

Uh, oh, now you're in for it.

>i am sick and tired of the media,fashon shows etc. stating what is attractive
>in peoples appearance,what we should all be wearing,etc.

Well, you might want to remember that these folks make a living by doing this.
Also, what's fashionable changes, and the changes are quite rapid these days.
Again, it's because the people in the fashion industry are trying to make a
living.

>personally,i like women who wear no makeup,fancy clothes,etc;i like women
>who dress the same as me basically, androgeneously,simply because it
>tells me she is probably the type of person who thinks for herself,who has
>high self esteem based on positive thoughts about her own personality,
>intelligence,etc. 
>what do the rest of you think?

That you're the world's foremost expert on what you like, and that that's
as it should be.

>                               do you males really think high-heels,
>painted faces etc are important with respect to how you like someone?

Supernormal stimuli began to have less of an effect upon me once I learned
what they were.

>and do many of you females like macho men,with fancy hairstyles and
>designer clothes? and why?what does that tell you about their intellect,etc?

I'm not female.

>one other thing,why do so many females shave themselves so much?it seems
>so irrelevent,yet i only know 1 or 2 women who don't shave their arms,etc.
>we are mammels,are'nt we?why only females in our culture,why not males as well

Most males shave their faces each day, but I abandoned this practice, for
several reasons, on May 17, 1975.

While some people consider armpit hair to be unsightly, another reason for
shaving it is that it traps scents associated with secretions from the apo-
crine glands.  There's nothing really wrong with this except that wearing
clothes causes the growth of bacteria that convert the scent to a stink.

-- Herb Huston
-- huston@access.digex.com
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Animals, animals, animals ?
Date: 21 Nov 92 22:11:02 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1ee1p6INNg8r@FUNCTOR.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU> loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu (Sandra Loosemore) writes:

>Well, I like to rub my pussy.

Me too!  In fact, I like it so much that I got a second one so that
I need never be without pussy to rub.

Rob T (and Duchess and Earl Grey)
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
"I get so tickled debunking bad personal philosophy." - Milquetoast
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: What do you Am men think about Am wome
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 11:15:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.002151.2050@fid.morgan.com> sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
>In article <1992Nov14.111603.28624@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
>tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>
>>Trygve   (Who wonders how long he has to wait for this whole "sexual peak"
>>          business to get over with--it was supposed to start going down
>>          ten years ago and still seems to be on the rise.) 
>
>I've got some bad news for you, Trygve: twenty years after what was
>supposed to have been my peak, I find that I might finally have
>plateaued.  At least I'm not climbing so fast anymore :-)

Oh, dear; at least I have the advantage that my schedule is flexible
enough that I suppose I can work it in.  

Trygve   (Sorry, folks; the project has been delayed because I took two 
          weeks off for sex.)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ron@turing.toronto.edu (Ron Wessels)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:55:50 GMT

stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes about wearing suits to work:
>Sure sounds like conformity to me (conformity is doing what everyone
>else does because you feel you must to be accepted).

I must confess, I too am a conformist in this regard.  I wear clothing
to work, even in the heat of summer when nudity would be more comfortable.

-- 
Ron Wessels		University of Toronto		ron@turing.toronto.edu
From: anthrlib@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: WHAT HAPPENED??????
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:42:45 GMT
Organization: Memphis State University

Hello Out There!

I am in desperate need of advice, help, whatever....  For the last three
monthes I've been falling for one of the nicest guys on the planet (or so I
thought).  He seemed very interested at first---before he knew that I was.  Now
that he knows that I'm interested (I told him) he's bolted!  I'm so confused. 
Never had this problem before.  Any advice? Suggestions? Possible solutions?
etc?  Has this happened to any of you? I don't get an opportunity to read the
news often--so please feel free to email me at:

                      Anthrlib@memstvx1.memst.edu.
===========================================================================
Spoodgelette                        |        SQUEEZE ME AND PLEASE ME
ANTHRLIB@MEMSTVX1.MEMST.EDU         |       BUT PLEAS DON'T DISEASE ME
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From: tps@jptcs.COM (Tim Sailer)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Money and the Single World (was: Education and the Single World
Date: 23 Nov 92 04:47:08 GMT
Reply-To: tps@jptcs.com
Organization: JPT Computer Solutions, Port Jeff Station, NY
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Marcia (marcia@netcom.com) wrote:
: Marriage is no more and no less that what the two people involved want it to 
: be. You seem to have pretty strong ideas of what you are looking for in a
: marriage, and I hope you find a partner who shares those ideas. Other people
                                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^
: have their own definitions, and need to follow those to be happy.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I agree!  At no time did I say that ANYONE should follow anything!
I clearly stated that these are my views and opinions ONLY!

-- 
Tim Sailer
JPT Computer Solutions - SCO Sales/Consulting/Administration and Mangling
Port Jefferson Station, NY
(516) 331-9001
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: PRES DEBATE
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:12:39 GMT

In article <JULIE.92Nov12182406@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu>
julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright) writes:
>Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:

>>Ever looked at the price over time curve for maple syrup?
>
>WHAT?!?!  Maple syrup's endangered?  Where are my Congresscritters' 
>addresses?  This is dreadful!

I seem to recall reading about the production of maple syrup requiring
boiling maple sap for a long time.  This takes mucho heat (energy).
Anybody want to bet against the price curve of maple syrup tracking
the price curve for general energy sources?

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Description of the Fetal Remains from an Abortion
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:34:31 GMT

In article <MARTINC.92Nov22234015@hatteras.cs.unc.edu> martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>In article <MARTINC.92Nov22205408@hatteras.cs.unc.edu> martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>
>      They could put me in a killfile, and they wouldn't have to 
>      read the description.  But it's the fact that other people
>      can read the description which upsets them.
>
>   No, asshole, it's the fact that *I* had to read the description before I
>   *knew* you should be in my kill file that upsets me.
>
>Since it appear to be an issue, I apologize for sullying the newsgroup
>with the somewhat coarse word "asshole".


BWOOP      BWOOP     BWOOP:
Asshole alert. asshole alert. Charles Martin has used the term ASSHOLE.
All posters don life vests and helmets. Proceed in an orderly fashion
directly to your life rafts. This is not a test. REPEAT. This is not a test.
Dougy please remove spiked shoes. Thank you this has not been a test
of the asshole alert system.
 
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 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: marcia@netcom.com (Marcia)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Organization: The Dolphin Conspiracy, Phase II
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:18:29 GMT

In article <1e9c48INNc5d@FUNCTOR.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU> loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu (Sandra Loosemore) writes:
>Gee, I really managed to stir up a lot of flames with my offhand mention
>of tie-wearing!  As I said, I don't consider wearing a tie to be a 100%
>reliable bozo indicator, but it does tend to set off alarm bells.

Hmmm, I wonder if I'm the only one left who likes to get dresed up. You know,
about 2-3 times a year get dressed up to the nines, go out on the town to
some terribly fancy restaurant with wonderful food, maybe a show, and some
place with dancing afterwards, and for the night pretend to be oh so
sophisticated?

I've had to dress up for work everyday, and I agree, it's a real pain, but 
when you do it for special occasions I find it a lot of fun.
-- 
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Marcia Bednarcyk                                  ADDRESSES: marcia@netcom.com
"Sweaty Snugglebunnies."                                     mlb@cisco.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: xtap@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tony Peacock)
Subject: Re: Do you remember 1970 to 1980?
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:39:18 GMT

>> >      As part of an impromptu research project, I'd like to know what
>> >  YOU think the single most important ( dramatic, traumatic ) event of`
>> >  1970 to 1980 was.
>> 

I remember the Oakland A's winning the World Series 3 years in a row in
1972, 1973, and 1974.  Miami Dolphins went undefeated in 1972 at 17 - 0.
I started High School, started driving and graduated high school.  I had
my first date and kiss.  Since I was not old enough to vote, I did not
pay much attention to politics.

Thanks and that's it!!

Tony,....
From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: How to explain?
Date: 23 Nov 1992 17:33:33 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <thurlow.722370264@convex.convex.com>, thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
> 
> There are three classes of people I _never_ joke with: income tax agents,
> airport security personnel, and people at border crossings.  These people
> are lifeforms that are specially bred to remove all traces of a sense of
> humor.

A friend of a friend has a terrific story about spending a weekend in a
psych ward after a mental health professional asked her if she was thinking
about suicide and she answered "No more than usual."

Dawn

Joseph Campbell gave me hope and now I have been saved.
"Folk Song" by Bongwater
Newsgroups: soc.singles,hsv.general,general
From: skyzor@hana.cs.ucla.edu (Kelly Nabours)
Subject: Re: Nightline and Presidential Cantidates
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 23:22:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.145323.13846@b11.b11.ingr.com> lhughes@b11.b11.ingr.com (Lawrence Hughes) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.080921.10505@mr.med.ge.com>, bednarek@picard.med.ge.com (Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971) writes:
>> back to the economy.
>> <some interesting if not particularly usefull info)

>And if buffaloes had wings...
>
>I think we have a pretty clear reading of the political persuation of the
>author of this fascinating bit of drivel, from the highlighted word. I can't
>call him a FASCIST, since that means that the government both CONTROLS and
>(etc. blah blah blah>

Hey, pull back the fangs.  Sheesh.  He did not claim to be economist, I don't
believe.  Also, the orginal post seemed to be against welfare, saying that
if we get all this people employed with some mythical jobs, then the government
would have a lot of money.

Besides a useless lecture on your version of economics (rather bold one too, to
just through out Keynes as a blathering idiot.) 

Do you see anything actually wrong with his original statement?

And lastly, is their any particularly reason you capitalize words like that?
It detracts from the rest of the sentence, and in fact from the rest of what
your saying by tearing the eyes only the those keywords: FASCIST, CONTROL, ...


-- 
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aka Jack Danger  "That was close, but not close enough, because I'M JACK DANGER
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re: What do you Am men think about Am wome
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 00:10:55 GMT

In article LC6@access.digex.com, huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.075224.5106@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>>In article <d+hqdlg@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
>>>Personally, I believe that sexual duration is a valuable asset. :)
>>
>>Sometimes--though a lot of women can find it intimidating or even deleterious
>>to their egos (the reasoning being, as far as I can tell, "if he doesn't get
>>off right away, there must be something wrong with me."  Of course this could
>>be a result of past partners telling them that the reason they went off after
>>twenty seconds was because they were so appealing).  (Of course this observation
>>is coming from someone who has traditionally had the opposite problem, so it
>>may be a bit skewed.)
>
>Here are some numbers.  The average duration of human copulation is about
>four minutes.  This compares quite favorably to our close cousins, the
>chimpanzee and gorilla, who clock in at about one minute.  However, our
>more distant cousin, the orangutan, manages about twenty minutes on average.
>(Orangs also prefer to copulate in the trees rather than on the ground.)
>Among mammals, though, the record-holder is some rodent at twelve hours!

Four minutes? Only if you go like a rabbit.
Slow down...Enjoy! :+)

dreas



Xref: sparky soc.singles:30963 alt.pagan:12948 alt.romance:14158 alt.sex:36459
From: martin@kawa.ssl.fujitsu.co.jp (S.C.T. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.pagan,alt.romance,alt.sex
Subject: Re: raising children
Date: 17 Nov 92 07:12:21 GMT
	<1992Nov16.135637.11334@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Followup-To: soc.singles
Organization: FUJITSU SOCIAL SCIENCE LABORATORY LIMITED, JAPAN.
In-reply-to: echristo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu's message of 16 Nov 92 13:56:37 GMT


On 16 Nov 92 13:56:37 GMT, echristo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Elena A Christofides) said:
 > Nntp-Posting-Host: top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
   ...
>> As for the "precious gift of God..." If it wasn't for Christianity, the 
   ... 
 > created to oppress the masses and that is exactly what it has done for nearly 
 > 2,000 years! Just look at all the hypocrisy in the beloved church itself - they
 > preach against homosexuality, etc - yet priests are regularly accused of child 
 > molestations, infidelity (breaking the celibate laws), homosexuality with other
 > priests,etc....
   ...
 > had a priest tell me that knowledge (scientific in particular) is a hinderance 
 > to faith and believing! Now if that isn't oppressing the gain of knowledge and 
   ...

God is a registered trademark of the Roman Catholic church?
You learn something new everyday!

I can see it now:

-''Vatican Lawyers Begin Issuing 'Look And Feel' Lawsuits, Film At Eleven.''

-''God Licensing Controvery Continues: Ian R. K. Paisley countersues the Pope.''

-''Russia Should Return Japanese POW Remains To Their Families: Islamic Spokesman.''

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: Money and the Single World (was: Education and the Single World
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:17:38 GMT

dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:

>It's been a while since I've agreed with Kiran, 
>so I guess I'll do it publicly. :-)

Careful Dawn.  You have your reputation to protect.  
Agree with me too often and I'll have to call you per--.

-- 
"The Loon bobs up in the surf on dark nights, ruins your summer with
 a burst of wild maniacal laughter, then dives and waits for the next
 victim.  And he wonders why people shoot at him."
 .................Will Cuppy, _How to Tell Your Friends from the Apes_
-- 

Kiran Wagle                           <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (eleanor.j.evans)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 04:30:23 GMT

In article <BxtzDC.8p0@access.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>
>(There's a family legend that my great-great-great grandfather escaped from
>England just ahead of a charge for sheep stealing.  Anything wrapped around
>my neck makes me very uncomfortable.)
>

Oh, wow, mine, too!  Only it was Wales.  And a couple more "great"s.
Still.....


Piglet, ex-Welshman
From: martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: High heels (was Re: What is attractive to women?)
Date: 21 Nov 92 19:06:26 GMT
	<1eiplqINNkcd@FUNCTOR.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU>
	<1992Nov21.114754.28288@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu's message of 21 Nov 92 11:47:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.114754.28288@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:

   Trygve   (Later, they went on to create the "law" of clothing design that
	     people larger than Michael J. Fox wear only plaid polyester and
	     that people with larger waistlines have the same size thighs as
	     people with smaller waistlines.) 


Don't forget the one that says people with > 48 inch chests have waists
*bigger* than their chests.
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
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From: martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: nkill
Date: 20 Nov 92 01:19:10 GMT
	<MARTINC.92Nov16111116@grover.cs.unc.edu>
	<1992Nov19.063630.20728@netcom.com>
Followup-To: soc.singles
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: rohwerwd@netcom.com's message of 19 Nov 92 06:36:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.063630.20728@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) writes:

   >Let's try this by analogy, in short simple sentences.  What is your
   >feeling about
   >
   >	nkill -poison proabortionists@usa
   >
   >Is that more or less morally offensive?
   >--

	If you compare it against:  nkill -poison anti-abortionists@usa,
   I believe that it is less morally offensive because anti-abortionists
   interfere in another person's life while pro-abortionists live their
   life and not interfere in another's life.  My line of reasoning is
   predicated on when one considers a human a person.  I happen to
   believe that a human is a person that has been born.  Some of the
   anti-abortionists believe that human is a person at conception.

And as a result, you're willing to (metaphorically) kill an already-born
person for holding a different opinion than you.  (Or somehow you're
under the impression that "anti-abortionist" *only* means Operation
Rescue.)  If Randall Terry had nkill, would *you* be safe?

	(And I can't resist the observation that *some* of these people
	have not only been born, they've been born *twice*!)

So long as someone feels it is morally justifiable to kill (or even
nkill) someone for differing opinions, then none of us are safe.  
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
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