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From: sidbury@sparrow.cs.uofs.edu (Dick Sidbury)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: New User Wants Suggestions
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:38:47 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing Sciences

I am in the process of purchasing the new Gateway 2000 DX2-66 with 8 mb ram, 64k cache, 2 340 mb "local bus" IDE disks and the new VESA local bus ATI ultra pro.  Gateway estimates that it will ship about Oct 10.

Meanwhile, I crashed my Model 70 (QEMM and SuperStor don't seem to be compatible) 
and so I decided to put OS/2 on my hard disk and play with it before my new system
arrive so I will have some idea as to what to install when it arrives.  With 4mb
of ram it is s-l-o-w.  WordPerfect for Windows is unusable, and Excel is almost
unusable.  Most DOS stuff seems to run at about the same speed.  It's easy to see where Microsoft gets their advertisements.

Anyhow, I am in need of some simple advice.  Since my system is so slow I have not
tried everything.

1) Should I wait until 3.1 support comes out to install OS/2 to keep consistency with
	my windows apps?

2) What about HPFS on one or both disks?  It appears to a friend of mine to offer 
	no real advantage unless you are using very large files.  On the other hand
	the only advantages to FAT are  1) the utilities that I have, which 
	supposedly are either not needed or available bundled with OS/2, and 2) the 
	compatibility with DOS products that don't run under OS/2.

3) Are any of the productivity tools any good?  All I've tried is the spreadsheet and
	the one that prints a graph of system performance.  What should I test out 
	within the next two weeks.

4) I will need tape backup and Gateway sells Archive which is not OS/2 compatible.
	What do you suggest?

5) What other suggestions do you have for me ?

Thanks for the advice.  I can hardly wait  to get up and running.

Dick Sidbury					E-Mail: sidbury@jaguar.uofs.edu
Department of Computing Sciences			sidbury@peculier.cs.uofs.edu
University of Scranton				BITNET: sidbury@scranton
From: redmax@sabrina.dei.unipd.it (Massimo_Alessan Santin 197369/IL)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Directory Sort (like Norton's) for OS/2 HPFS?
Keywords: directory sort norton os/2 hpfs
Date: 13 Sep 92 22:54:20 GMT
Organization: D.E.I. Universita' di Padova, Italia

In article <1992Sep10.175844.12909@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
>In article <p6snf9=.jeffgus@netcom.com> jeffgus@netcom.com (Jeffrey Gustafson) writes:
>>
>>	Does anyone know if a Norton like directory sort program exit
>>for OS/2 HPFS?  I like being able to put files the way I want them
>>(not just sort switches), but I can't currently do this under HPFS.
>
>Of course, if you want a custom (not sorted) listing, it could cause a
>problem.  I know of no such utility to do this for HPFS.
>

HPFS is based on B-Trees. The files names are sorted because they are
into the B-Tree node. They are like the keys of an index file into a
database. I think that isn't possible to use an arbitrary order on
them.

				Massimo A. Santin
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: tlilley@jarthur.claremont.edu (Thomas (Ted) Lilley)
Subject: Re: Full featured OS/2 with just a commandline???
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:00:25 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.171246.11127@nmt.edu> jreynold@nmt.edu (John Reynolds) writes:
>I've got a friend here at school who is visually disabled (politically correct
>terminology I assume :-) and is very good with a computer. He's got a laptop
>with DOS and a special AI-ish program/sound board that tells him audibly
>what's on the screen. He says the company which makes the boards/software
>are working on a OS/2 2.0 version (available in jan.), and he really wants
>to go to OS/2 (obviously a smart individual). My question is this:
>
>How can he load cmd.exe (or 4os2.exe) (sound board/software only works in
>text mode of course) and be able to task switch, etc. in OS/2. I realize that
>he won't be able to run PM apps (or want to), but he want's to be able to
>do things like format disks in the background, and compile in the background,
>etc. (the things that make life worth living...:-).

	I run OS/2 with 4os2.exe as my WPS.  Basically, I still have the
mouse and desktop, but none of the icons or normal WPS stuff.  My machine
starts up with a command line in a window, and I can start fs or windowed
sessions from there.  I switch sessions either with the mouse, or by pressing
Alt-Esc, which rotates through my open sessions.  You can get rid of the
Centire desktop, but then you cannot multitask, unfortunately.
	This may be a satisfactory setup for your friend, since it's all
pretty much text-based, although the text can be in windows.  Switching, like
I said, can be handled through the keyboard as well.  To make OS/2 run like
this, make the following change in config.sys:

		Set runworkplace=[drive]:\os2\cmd.exe  (or 4os2.exe)

You also need a handful of command line utilities to replace the WPS
functionality.  I use :

	running2.exe / slay.exe :  Shows running processes and lets you kill
					them from CL

	startd.exe :  Lets you specify dos settings for a particular session
			in a text file.  Rexx also lets you do this.  Pick
			up the latest rexx patch from software.watson.ibm.com

	shutdown.exe : Shutdown CL utility.  Worked with my FAT system, but
			is causing traps with my HPFS system now.  Not like
			it matters much, since I'm shutting down, but
			annoying

All of these can be found on ftp-os2.nmsu.edu, except possibly the first.
There is a similar program there, though.

One additional benefit of running a CL system is less memory overhead, 1.8
megs worth.

Ted
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: geurin@texasex.nosc.mil
Subject: ATI VGA Wonder XL Drivers?
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:30:13 GMT


Hello,

Does anyone know if the ATI drivers on Hobbes will work with the
aforementioned card?  A friend here at work was trying to get them
to work but all he gets is a C0000005 error at boot up.  Standard
VGA gives him no problems.

If the drivers on Hobbes won't work, is there a way to use the 8514/A
driver on this card?

Thanks in Advance,
Chance Geurin

Please E-mail
geurin@nosc.mil
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 18:35:09 EDT
From: Rooh <CXF107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Tape drive hangs in OS/2

I have a PS/2 Mod 80, 10 Meg Ram, 160 Meg HD. I installed OS/2, it runs fine.
My tape backup is IBM, I have the IBM Software for it. It runs OK under a
diagonstic disk, BUT.... When I try to do a back up. I get an error " No tape
drive present. The installation of the software added the lines
DEVICE=C:\OS2TAPE\ITI.SYS
RUN=C:\OS2TAPE\ITDMN.EXE
to the config.sys. Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks
Chris





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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: nap42487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nishith A. Patel)
Subject: Re: communications and DOS settings problems
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 00:49:29 GMT
Keywords: OS2

nap42487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nishith A. Patel) writes:

>My generous (NOT) 60 days of tech support has run out, and I have problems.
>Hopefully, I can get some answers here.

>First, my communications program is not working in OS/2. The communications
>program is quicklink II, something that came with my modem (for DOS). when I ran it the first couple times, it was fine until I actually tried to work with the
>UNIX mainframe here (what gives me access to this net). when I connected, some
>weird characters appeared at the prompts. It just kept doing this. Looked like
>line noise, but it wasn't.
>After this, I tried changing DOS settings, but that made it worse (even when I


>After I changed some DOS settings, it was worse (even after I changed them back)Now when I go to the screen for the comm program, nothing even appears on the
>screen. I typed in atdt followed by a number anyway, and the modem dialed it.
>But nothing was showing up the screen. It stayed blank.

>Speaking of DOS settings, that is where my 2nd problem comes in. I saw no way
>to change the processor time of a DOS app, or make it exclusive (the only thing
>running when it is the foreground app). I want to be able to do this so that
>DOS apps run at full speed (DOS apps can run at full speed under OS/2, can't
>they?).

>Any help is greatly appreciated.

Details on my problem:

computer: 386-33, local clone with American Megatrends motherboard.
modem   : Compudyne 2400 internal modem.
COM's   : Mouse driver says, mouse installed on COM1. 2nd serial port empty.
	  modem set to use COM4.
When I run the communications program, OS2 gives me an error screen saying
the program tried to access COM2, which is already in use by another program,
but there was nothing using COM2, and nothing plugged into second serial port.
The modem is set to use COM4, but I can not use COM4 if sopmething is already using COM2, and can't use COM3 if something is using COM1. So I do not know if
COM2 and COM4 are the exact same thing or not. Again, the mouse is on COM1, 
nothing plugged into second serial port.

Does anyone know what is going on?

Nish Patel nap42487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu




	  C
	  modem set to use COM4 (logical port
From: frey@alfheim.actrix.gen.nz (Bruce Clement)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: GCC stdio.h
Distribution: world
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 12:10:44 GMT
Organization: Private System

mmtl@hobson.cc.flinders.edu.au writes in article <1992Sep07.010117.38523@frodo.cc.flinders.edu.au>:
 
> You are not doing anything wrong. The original fault was mine when I
> messed up zoo'ing the sys/* (and other) subdirectories in the header
> files. The moderator of c.b.os2 also missed the error when he tested
> it.
 
... Info on ftp sources deleted ...

> A repost probably isn't necessary unless many people have problems and
> can't get them any other way.

A lot of people are going to use a lot of bandwidth getting those libraries.
Would it be possible to post just the missing libraries for incorporation with
the earlier post please.

--
Bruce Clement    (frey@alfheim.actrix.gen.nz  SNEWS/2,  UUPC 1.11q)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: gregory@halcyon.com (Gregory Wright)
Subject: Re: internal processing error anyone?
Keywords: system error
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:03:03 GMT

In article <ecampbel.716279565@neumann.une.edu.au> ecampbel@neumann.une.edu.au (Edward Campbell) writes:
>Can anyone enlighten me on the following error message on booting OS/2 :
>
>   System detected an internal processing error
>   at location ##0160:fff64ae0 - 000d:aae0.
>   60002, 9084
>   038600d1
>   Internal revision 6.307, 92/03/01
>   The system is stopped...
>
>Is it a memory or CPU error or what?
>
  I can consitantly generate this error by hitting a cntrl-break while
Borland c++ is executing getch(); in a program of mine. According to 
IBM these internal processing errors are *usually* caused by mismatched
memory(speeds).  In my case it is something else. You may, as others here
have suggested, try a good memory checking program. Checkit has recieved
some good reviews.

Good luck,


-- 
 ________Greg Wright____________   "Sure my YMP is fast, but if it doesn't
|  gregory@bcstec.boeing.com    |   run OS2 I don't need it....."
|     gregory@halcyon.com       |                             
|____uunet!bcstec!gregory_______|               NOT A BOEING SPOKESPERSON.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: cnadler@vnet.ibm.com (Cliff Nadler)
Subject: No-charge upgrade extended (was Re: Some more suggestions for OS/2)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 14:17:59 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.11 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: cnadler@vnet.ibm.com (Cliff Nadler)
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

Here's the latest for all the people who haven't upgraded their 1.x systems yet:

NUMBER     392-205
DATE       920908
CATEGORY   WS00, WS20
TYPE       Marketing
TITLE      IBM OS/2 VERSION 2.0 NO-CHARGE UPGRADE PROMOTION NOTICE
ABSTRACT          This notice pertains to the following promotions:
   o   OS/2 (R) Version 2.0 No-Charge Upgrade Promotion described in
       Marketing Announcement 392-070, dated March 31, 1992
   o   No-charge Upgrade Promotion for OS/2 Standard Edition Version 1.X
       to OS/2 Version 2.0, described in Marketing Announcement 391-178,
       dated October 22, 1991
   o   No-charge Upgrade Promotion for OS/2 Extended Edition Version 1.X
       to Extended Services with Database Server for OS/2, described in
       Marketing Announcement 391-179, dated October 22, 1991
   o   OS/2 LAN Server Version 1.X to Version 2.0 - Entry No-charge
       Upgrade and Distributed Feature Promotion, described in Marketing
       Announcement 391-180, dated October 22, 1991.
          Because of customer requests for additional time to submit
   order forms to IBM OS/2 Program Headquarters, a grace period from
   August 25, 1992, to September 30, 1992, has been granted.  All other
   terms and conditions remain unchanged.
    (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines
      Corporation.


--
Cliff Nadler (cnadler@vnet.ibm.com)
IBM Federal Systems Company - TEAM OS/2

Disclaimer: This post represents the views of the poster, not IBM Corporation.
From: mhuth@byron.u.washington.edu (Mark Huth)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: Where OS/2 2.0 CSD?
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:51:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Sep10.215159.12743
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

>Strange??!?!?!  Where did you hear that OS/2 2.0 would include Windows 3.1
>support?  I never heard that before (and don't really want it).
>
>Peter von Kaenel  (vonk@cs.rochester.edu)
From Lee Reswig during his demo at Comdex.

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Compuserve 70346,563              *
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:18:47 -0400 
From: Michael Jeffrey Garland <mg40+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: 3 button/accelerated mouse drivers
	<1992Sep14.234649.22239@midway.uchicago.edu>

sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:
> I don't know how the mouse situation will evolve, but here's the
> problem.  On the PC some systems have two mouse buttons, some have
> three.  IBM was in a no win situation here.  If they designed their
> driver to support all three buttons, software developers would start
> writing with that third button in mind and people with just two mouse
> buttons would find that they couldn't do certain things.

That isn't necessarily true.  They could easily have adopted the X
approach of pressing both buttons together to take the place of a
middle button.  Personally, I think that there ought to be support for
3 button mice; I've always wanted to put that middle button to good
use.


		-Michael Garland
		-mg40@andrew.cmu.edu
From: kreinddm@ucunix.san.uc.edu (David M Kreindler)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: WPS doesn't automatically update file windows! Help!
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:46:17 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati

I'm having problems with the WPS - it doesn't update icons' status
unless 'Refresh' is selected from a pull-down menu.  Icons which have
been dropped on program icons stay cross-hatched; new icons which should
appear (-e.g. those created by running programs-) don't appear.  Anyone
have any suggestions about what might have happened to cause this?  The
WPS was behaving itself up until I de-installed the latest kernel
patch...  (The latest 'fix' caused a non-shrinking swap file, so I
deleted the 'new, improved' kernel, and renamed the OS2KRNL.OLD file to
OS2KRNL, etc.)
-- 
kreinddm@ucunix.san.uc.edu -------------------------------------------------

"Sometimes you're the windshield / Sometimes you're the bug...." - Dire Straits
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Directory Sort (like Norton's) for OS/2 HPFS?
Keywords: directory sort norton os/2 hpfs
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:58:44 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <p6snf9=.jeffgus@netcom.com> jeffgus@netcom.com (Jeffrey Gustafson) writes:
>
>	Does anyone know if a Norton like directory sort program exit
>for OS/2 HPFS?  I like being able to put files the way I want them
>(not just sort switches), but I can't currently do this under HPFS.

What's wrong with sort switches?  I just place them in the DIRCMD
variable and ignore them.

Of course, if you want a custom (not sorted) listing, it could cause a
problem.  I know of no such utility to do this for HPFS.



-- 
   |)  David Charlap           "LECTURER, n.  One with his hand in your pocket,
  /|_  dic5340@hertz.njit.edu   his tongue in your ear, and his faith in your
 ((|,)                          patience."
  ~|~                              --- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: mouse probs with os2
From: elejw@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (James Williams)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 00:15:09 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

I've been running 0s2 v2 for a few weeks now, and I'm very impressed with it.
One or 2 probs tho'. When I run the game RETALIATOR, the system doesn't 
recognise the mouse. This may be because RETALIATOR has it's own mouse driver
built in, and os2 can't handle this?

Elite plus, which requires an external mouse driver, recog's the mouse find 
(using Vmouse.sys, presumably). Also I have seen on other systems, when 
NORTONS COMMANDER is run in a dos window, the mouse cursor appears. 
It doesn't on my system!

Um,,,Also the zx specrum emulator Z80 ( a beautiful piece of s/w, v1.41) 
works on my friends  486 33 system, but not on my 386 20 system! to compound
the problem, the spectrum emulator JPP works on my system, but not his!

can anyone help with the above problems? especially the first 2!
thanks
JW

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: internet connection
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:53:57 GMT

In article <16411@pitt.UUCP> rozin@cs.pitt.edu (Roman Rozin) writes:
>	I'm not sure that it's the right newsgroup for the question,
>but I have no idea which newsgroup is appropriate.  
>	A friend of mine wanted to know if (and how) it is possible
>to have access to the internet (to read news, for example) if he is
>not affiliated with a university.

If you have any general net question of this sort your best bet is to
subscribe to news.answers and read the periodic posting applicable to
your questions.

The news.answers frequently asked questions lists are archived at
pit-manager.mit.edu, so you can retrieve them via ftp if you have such
access.

-- 
Timothy F. Sipples      | The OS/2 FREQ. ASKED QUESTIONS LIST is avail. from
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/faq.
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | Or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP").
of Chicago, 60637       | Family Values Means a Job
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: TW.FY4@isumvs.iastate.edu (Timothy I Miller)
Subject: Re: So what about the Sound Blaster Drivers?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 17:10:49 GMT

In article <5SEP199202214228@venus.tamu.edu>,
tcf9033@venus.tamu.edu (FREY, TONY C) writes:
> Did anyone find anything about the release of the Sound Blaster drivers?
>I haven't been able to get on their board yet to ask myself.
>
>TCF9033@venus.tamu.edu
>Tony Frey

  Well, I've called creative labs quite a few times (1-800-998-5227)
but it's nearly impossible to get through.  They've told me that
they are "being worked on," but they don't know when they will be
done.  That's the best they could do.  Sorry.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Some suggestions for OS/2
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 02:41:40 GMT

In article <if58156@pro-haven.cts.com> blackmane@pro-haven.cts.com (Ed Blackman) writes:
>The reason chkdsk won't work when you've got everything up and running is
>because OS/2 locks important files like OS2.INI, and chkdsk can't (and
>shouldn't, IMO) deal with locked files.  One way around this, other that
>booting from a floppy, isto get access to OS/2 before it locks up all those
>files.  You can do this by putting "CALL=C:\OS2\CMD.EXE" (sans quotes)
>early on in your config.sys.  This will give you an OS/2 command prompt
>early in your boot sequence, and you can run chkdsk, etc, from there.  When
>you exit from the CMD shell, booting will continue.  And if you're one of
>those types that hates to have to type "exit" everytime you boot up, you
>can replace CMD.EXE with 4OS2.EXE (from the shareware 4OS2 package) and set
>up a .CMD file that will automatically exit if you don't press "y" or
>whatever within a specified time limit.

An otherwise excellent post, but this point is inaccurate -- that
method won't work.

Autochecking, as I pointed out in the last follow up to this thread,
is the way things should be done.  See the FAQ List for details.

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Timothy F. Sipples      | The OS/2 FREQ. ASKED QUESTIONS LIST is avail. from
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/faq.
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | Or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP").
of Chicago, 60637       | Family Values Means a Job
From: gkendall@ncr-mpd.FtCollins.NCR.COM (Guy Kendall)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: diskcopy problem
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:29:48 GMT
Reply-To: gkendall@ncr-mpd.FtCollins.NCR.COM (Guy Kendall)
Organization: NCR Microelectronic Products Division

In article <OA2-201-314p2_2AA67AA9@piraya.bad.se> Bjorn_Gustafsson@p2.f314.n201.z2.fidonet.bad.se (Bjorn Gustafsson) writes:
 
  > I wanted to duplicate a disk in drive A and used 'Copy disk' of
  > Drive A icon. But what it did is to copy from drive A to drive B.
  > Can I change its function to be 'copying from driver A to drive A'?
  > Thank you.
 
 
>Go to a OS/2-Window. At command prompt type: DISKCOPY A: A:

Are you sure this will work? I seem to remember trying this a long
time ago and it would not work for some reason, apparently a bug.



-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jdecarlo@mitre.org (John DeCarlo)
Subject: Re: CHKDSK can't find root
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean  VA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:43:34 GMT

In article <wefB7ZK00Vp8IDxoNC@andrew.cmu.edu>
 pd2n+@andrew.cmu.edu (Peter W. De Bonte) writes:

>I'm starting to get rather tired of constantly booting off the
>installation floppies to reconstruct the root directory of my OS/2 boot
>partition whenever I bump the switch on my computer or loose power or
>whatever.
>
>Does anyone know if there is work being done to prevent this from
>happening in future versions or is it just an accepted annoyance?

I get that message every time I lose power or turn off the computer on my 
PS/2 model 70 with SCSI hard disk and Future Domain controller formatted 
HPFS.  However, it seems to work things out by itself somehow and ends up 
booting.  Still, it makes me nervous.

Anyone have any idea why this would happen?  Doesn't happen on my system at 
home with an IDE hard disk.

John DeCarlo, MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA--My views are my own
Fidonet:  1:109/131  Internet:  jdecarlo@mitre.org
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