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From: dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.e.wexelblat)
Subject: Re: configuring xdm on Dell 2.2
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:27:49 GMT

In article <BzBGK4.4A1@csi.compuserve.com> sam@csi.compuserve.com (Sam Neely) writes:
> In article <BzBCtJ.u9@ra.nrl.navy.mil> solsman@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Mark Solsman) writes:
> >Hello-
> >
> >Seems that I have been elected to try and figure this out :(
> >
> >Seems that DELL did a very nice job of configuring the xdm for you, they
> >even set up all of your files for you!!! :)
> >
> >However, I must have missed where it tells you how to get the thing to execute
> >upon startup.  Am I supposed to place it in /etc/rc2.d ??  Does anyone use this?
> 
> Just a guess -- I'm sure you'll get a more authoritative answer from
> someone else --  I would think that you'd have to disable the ttymon
> process on /dev/console and replace it with the xdm.  sacadm(1) comes
> to mind as a place to look.
> 

Unless Dell has done something odd, there's no reason to do this.  The
X server runs on a VT, not on the console.  What I use for Microport SVR4
(which I assume will work for Dell as well) is to have a script in
/etc/init.d, called Xdm.  Model it on the other files, with a start and
stop case.  The start case has essentially the following:

	if [ ! -f <xdm-lib-dir>/.badexit ]
	then
		touch <xdm-lib-dir>/.badexit
		xdm
	fi

And the stop case has

	kill `cat <xdm-lib-dir>/xdm-pid`
	rm -f <xdm-lib-dir>/.badexit

Then link this to /etc/rc2.d/S??xdm and /etc/rc0.d/K??xdm.  For ?? I used
something in the 80's.

Sorry I can't send the real script - it's on my machine at home, and I can't
get to it because the phone lines are still out due to the storm last
weekend.

You can probably ignore the .badexit stuff, unless you are doing server
development (as I am :->).  In that case, it's a godsend, keeping xdm from
looping forever, trying to start the server, in those rare (;->) instances
where you manage to bolux up the server.

> >Thanks in advance!
> >
> >-- 
> >Mark Solsman                                 Building 1, Code 5160
> >United States Naval Research Laboratory      solsman@ra.nrl.navy.mil
> >Washington, DC                               (202) 767-5769
> -- 
> Sam Neely, CompuServe Incorporated                  +1 614 457 8600 (voice)
> 5000 Arlington Centre Blvd, Columbus, OH  43220     +1 614 457 0348 (FAX)
> Electronic Mail:  InfoPlex: >CSI:SAM      Internet: sam@csi.compuserve.com
> To err is human, to forgive is against company policy

One note for xdm users - unless Dell has fixed a rather nasty little bug
in xdm (which I doubt), you may not be able to use XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1
authentication (it may screw up boards on your bus, or even lock up the bus).  
I sent the fix to MIT, but it has yet to appear in a public fix (if anyone
wants it, the fix is in XFree86, or I can send you a source patch - send
me email).

--
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: holder@telesoft.com (Robert L. Holder @ignite)
Subject: bad hertz value
Organization: Alsys Group, San Diego, CA, USA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:26:40 GMT

I am getting the following message when I rlogin into my Venix 
( ISC 2.x ) based unix:

Bad Hertz Value
Using 100 from <sys/param.h>


I know I saw this batted around a while back in this forum.
Did not see it in the FAQ list. Does anyone remember the story?
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.msdos
From: pardee@titan.med.ge.com (Brad Pardee 5-5103)
Subject: Help! Installed Esix, now MS Windows won't work
Reply-To: pardee@ct.med.ge.com (Brad Pardee 5-5103)
Organization: GE Medical Systems - CT, New Berlin, WI
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 19:38:23 GMT

Help!

I repartitioned my hard drive and added a DOS partition and installed MS DOS 5.0
and MS Windows 3.1.  Everything worked fine.  Then I recreated my Unix partiition 
(Esix 4.0.3).  Now when I boot from my DOS partition, I am unable to run windows in 
enhanced mode. I tried re-running setup and had to use the /u option for it to let
me re-install windows.  The /u option is supposed to be used if you have a Unix or 
Xenix partition.  Without the /u, it pointed me to section 2.5 of the README
file and the gist of the info from there was "Incompatible hard disk or device drive."
During the /u setup, it gave me the message "The partitioning scheme used on your
hard disk prevents the creation of a permanent swap file.  You can create a temporary
swap file."

Does anyone know how I can get Windows to work in enhanced mode?  I talked to Esix
Technical Support and they hadn't heard of this problem before.  They suggested
recreating the DOS partition and trying to install it again (I haven't tried this
yet, but I'm not very optimistic).  Microsoft support said it was incompatible disk 
partitioning software on UNIX and there is no workaround.  My DOS setup is very basic
and there is nothing in AUTOEXEC.BAT or CONFIG.SYS that relates to anything else.  I
tried booting from a floppy and the results were the same.

Thanks in advance for any help.
--
==================================================================
Brad Pardee
pardee@ct.med.ge.com
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From: andrew@uel.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.sys5.r4
Subject: gawk-2.14.tar has been uploaded to US4BINR
Date: 17 Dec 92 14:38:37 GMT
Organization: us4binr


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: murray@rocky.raleigh.ibm.com (Charlie Murray)
Subject: Re: Need info about printers under BSDI & DOS
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:58:02 GMT
Organization: IBM, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina

In article <143617@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV>, booloo@framsparc.ocf.llnl.gov (Mark Boolootian) writes:
|> Greetings,
|> 
|> I have just bought my 486 system.  I will switch between running DOS and BSDI 
|> Unix (from separate disk partitions).  Now I am about to buy a printer.  
|> 
|> My wife has a few DOS applications which require HP laserjet series II or III 
|> compatibility (they should also work with the HP deskjet 500C).  I would very
|> much *like* to have a postscript-capable printer.  Are the HP laserjet or
|> deskjet postscript printers?   Assuming they aren't, can I print to either
|> of these printers under BSDI Unix?  Are there some alternatives here I don't
|> know about?  Any recommendations for printers which meet my wife's needs (and
|> maybe mine too)?  What do people use for printing under BSDI?
|> 
|> Any help is greatly appreciated, as always.
|> 
|> mb
|> -- 
|> Mark Boolootian		booloo@llnl.gov		+1 510 423 1948
|> Disclaimer:  My fingers type for me alone.

You may be better off posting in comp.unix.bsd since that is where most of
the 386BSD/BSDI users hang out.

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From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: What is best was to run DOS and Unix on same box?
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:05:58 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

| booloo@framsparc.ocf.llnl.gov (Mark Boolootian) writes:
: I am about to take the plunge and purchase a 486 box.  My wife will likely
: be using the machine more than I to run a few DOS applications.  When I work
: on the machine, I want to run Unix.  How can I best accomplish this?
: 

  Many versions of UNIX and clones have a boot manager which allows you
to boot dos instead. Assuming your wife will type one extra command at
each boot, you can boot either. Linux, SCO, and Dell all support this,
and I believe others do, too.

-- 
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From: jmd@wa4cyb.UUCP (John Dashner)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: SCSI controller board inquiry
Date: 11 Dec 92 12:33:44 GMT
Organization: John Dashner & Assoc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

Jeff Thomas (jeff@anthro.utah.edu) wrote:
: What's a good brand of SCSI controller that's ASPI compliant that will
: work with both DOS5 and ISC UNIX? This is gonna go into a 386 ISA machine.
: I'm planning to hook up an Archive 2150S SCSI tape drive and possibly a
: SCSI disk.

At my current client's location, we installed 9 BusLogic SCSI-2 compliant
(note the keyword *compliant*) controllers in 3 486 50Mhz servers.  The
model number we installed is the KT-542B version for ISA buses (they have
other models for MCA an EISA as well.) These controllers support up to
7 SCSI devices each of which can be up to 8 gigabyte drives (or tapes,
CD-ROMs, whathaveyou) and provide appropriate mapping of cylinder geometry
that avoids the BIOS hangup over 1024 cylinders.  This of course does not
matter for U*ix systems.  They come with drivers for DOS, OS/2 and Netware
as well as a replacement driver for ISC and SCO vintages.

Above I noted that the device is SCSI-2 compliant -- this means that it
supports the command set enhancements of SCSI-2 *but* may NOT necessarily
support specific drives rated as SCSI-2 due to bandwidth limitations (I
believe they will support up to 10 megabyte per second disk tranfers in
burst mode.  They will support up to 20 megabyte transfers over the ISA
bus.)  Typically, you're looking at a better controller for present SCSI
devices.  They also seem to have solved the memory addressing problem above
16 megabytes although I cannot confirm this as yet.

You may have noted that was 9 controllers in 3 boxes.  This is what can be
supported on the ISA bus -- MCA and EISA will support four controllers.

Y'all come on down and see a PC with 32 gigabytes of online disk storage
when we get them all installed ;-)

All the best, pappy
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From: andrew@uel.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.sys5.r4
Subject: elm-2.4pl11.tar has been uploaded to US4BINR
Date: 16 Dec 92 02:42:59 GMT
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: solsman@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Mark Solsman)
Subject: DELL -> Re: ISC: ESDI & SCSI in one host ?
Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:55:00 GMT

>>       is ISC able to handle ESDI & SCSI devices at the same time ?
>>       I'm thinking about plugging another SCSI in one of my machines.


Anyone know if DELL can do the same?  I am intrested in adding a second drive,
but I want to slowly make the transition to SCSI.

-Mark Solsman
-- 
Mark Solsman                                 Building 1, Code 5160
United States Naval Research Laboratory      solsman@ra.nrl.navy.mil
Washington, DC                               (202) 767-5769
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sys5.r4
From: larry@news.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: WordPerfect 5.1 for Unix is available
Organization: Gator Communications - Feeds-R-Us 219-289-3745 
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 15:19:57 GMT

davis@chrysanthemum.cs.odu.edu (Mark Davis) writes:

>OK, I just talked to WordPerfect again.  They just started shipping WordPerfect
>for Unix, Version 5.1  *Last Night*.  Don't know about anyone else, but our
>purchase order should be on their desk tomorrow!! (We're upgrading from WP4.2)

I have WB 4.x (I don't remember) and 5.0 for Unix (10 user license).  I also
have 5.0 for DOS.  I have a couple of machines running NFS with 5.0 loaded,
and 5.0 under Unix is much slower as compared against it running under DOS
(or Merge).  Even with light activity on the server, it takes a couple of
seconds for the "View Printed Page" option under Unix, but under DOS (and
Merge) it just "pops right up".  Has anyone else noticed this, and if so,
do you have any ideas?  We have plenty of RAM (24 megabytes) - and don't
see any swapping.

We run it under SVR4 -- and without a GUI.


-- 
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keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk)
Subject: Re: Dell support?
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 13:38:33 GMT

>>What's the current status of support and development for Dell Unix?
>
>I talked with Dell support yesterday evening around 6PM EST.  Dell
>had 3 support gurus on the telephone, and other 2 took off for the
>day earlier -- so I can assume they have 5 on the phones -- with
>staggered shifts covering the east and west coasts..
>

Didn't they lay some people off or shift them to other tasks some
time ago?  Or are all the folks that built the initial system with all
the extra bells and whistles still in place?


-- 
Richard Foulk		richard@pegasus.com
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: staceyc@sco.COM (Stacey Campbell)
Subject: Re: Will SCO Xenix/Unix/ODT work with Tseng video?
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:03:17 GMT
Keywords: SCO, tseng


In article <1992Dec15.073543.6831@griffin.itc.gu.edu.au> rosser@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au (Brad Rosser) writes:
>I'm about to purchase a 486DX with a Tseng 1Mb VGA card and, in a final
>check, was shocked to find that it isn't included in my SCO Hardware
>Compatibility Handbook (June, 1992).

We support a number of SVGA video cards that use all manner of Tseng
video chips.  I suspect you are talking about the Tseng 4000, if you are
then we support the following video cards that use this chip;

Genoa SuperVGA 7000 series
Orchid ProDesigner II (Version 3.x, 4.x, 5.x)
Orchid ProDesigner IIs
Orchid ProDesigner/e
Sigma Legend
STB EM16+

If your card is, or is compatable with, any of the above then you are
in business.

>Will Xenix 2.3.4, SCO Unix (versions 2.0 & 4.0) and SCO ODT 2.0 support
>the Tseng card?

You need at least ODT 1.1 with Update G and the X11R4 EFS installed.  If
you have ODT 2.0 then this support comes out of the box.

>Brad Rosser
>Australia.

No relation to the Rosser's from Wangaratta?
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: What's Happening to ISC UNIX?
From: bill@wafbox.UUCP (Bill Fulton)
Date: 16 Dec 92 03:31:20 GMT
Reply-To: bill@wafbox.UUCP (Bill Fulton)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Home

In article <1992Dec11.161912.4366@rwwa.COM> witr@rwwa.com writes:
>3) The 8 month lead time.  I think this is a real problem.  Destiny is
>available now.  So are other ``improved'' SVR4s.  Is solaris that much
>better to be waiting for?

Is ~$1400 worth saving??? Especially when you have a reasonably-well-working
Unix system to "tide you over"?

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: 841613t@dragon.acadiau.ca (Don Tyzuk)
Subject: SCO performance monitors (where?)
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:40:35 GMT

Somewhere in my travels I have seen tools to monitor SCO
sysV/386 resources and performance.  I think it was ftp.uu.net
but now when I look, it is nowhere to be found.

Can someone point me to where this type of stuff might be found,
and anything else like it...

(or anything interesting for SCO)  

thanks in advance :-)
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: solsman@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Mark Solsman)
Subject: Re: configuring xdm on Dell 2.2
Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:05:26 GMT

In article <BzBGK4.4A1@csi.compuserve.com> sam@csi.compuserve.com (Sam Neely) writes:
>>applying the patch- pkgadd doesnt work)
>
>Applying the patch is no problem, once you know what pkgadd wants.
>Uncompress and detar the patch into a directory, /usr/foo for example.
>You should end up with a subdirectory in there called xdm.  To actually
>apply the patch, use the command 'pkgadd -d /usr/foo'.

Nope, this is what I exactally did at first.  I de-tar-red the file in /tmp,
then ran pkgadd -d /tmp/xdm.  I received the illustrious error in stream-crap
message.
So, I then tried to de-tar it to a floppy, and run pkgadd -d diskette2.  
This yielded a message telling me that it couldn't process the package, and
to try using the old version of the program. (which didnt work either, but I
expected this)

So what can I be doing wrong?

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United States Naval Research Laboratory      solsman@ra.nrl.navy.mil
Washington, DC                               (202) 767-5769
From: Lucian_Dancanet@transarc.com
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: ESIX 4.0.4 on > 1GB disk
Date: 21 Dec 92 01:40:28 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA



Setup:

EISA 486DX50 with 16 MB, AMI BIOS dated 12/12/91
Adaptec 1542B (BIOS V3.10) (resistor pack removed)
Internal SCSI HDD Toshiba MK-538FB (1.2 GB formatted, 1172 cyl), ID 0
Internal SCSI Tape Drive Wangtek 5150ES (resistor pack installed), ID 2
External SCSI CD-ROM Drive Toshiba TXM-3301B (resistor pack installed), ID 4
ATI Graphics Ultra with the InPort Mouse
2 Serial, 1 Parallel, 1 Game Ports

I had previously ESIX 4.0.4 installed on 2 IDE hard disks, and it worked fine.
I've replaced the second IDE HD with a 1.2 GB SCSI HD, and although DOS 5.0 and
OS/2 2.0 would work fine with both disks (except Windows 3.1 when installed on
the SCSI HD), ESIX wouldn't recognize the SCSI HD.

So, I gave up using the IDE HD, and removed the IDE/floppy adapter from the
system. With only the SCSI HD in the system, DOS and OS/2 would work fine,
but ESIX wouldn't install.

I have formatted the disk from within ESIX, during installation, and I have
also verified the disk (BTW, I was told that the verify would take "no more
than 392 minutes" for a 574 MB partition; it took about 5 minutes).

Problem #1. I couldn't create a DOS partition larger than 32 MB from within
            ESIX.

I had to exit, and boot DOS from floppy; I created a 234 MB primary partition,
and a 352 MB extended (which became later an OS/2 HPFS partition).

I rebooted ESIX, created a 574 MB UNIX partition, and at the end of the
allocation, after "Is this allocation acceptable to you (y/n)? y", I've got
the following messages:

Warning: SD01: Incorrect partition 0, Err: 6dd0b005

Filesystems will now be created on the needed slices.
Creating the / filesystem on /dev/rdsk/c0t0d0s1

Warning: SD01: Incorrect partition 0, Err: 6dd0b005
Warning: SD01: Incorrect partition 0, Err: 6dd0b005

Disksetup: Unable to create filesystem on /dev/rdsk/c0t0d0s1
Disksetup: Bad File Number
Cannont create/mount the / file system.
Please contact your services representative for further assistance.

Problem #2. Does this mean that ESIX cannot be installed on a disk larger than
            1 GB?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Lucian
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: Dell support?
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:18:48 GMT

richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) writes:
>>>What's the current status of support and development for Dell Unix?
>>
>>I talked with Dell support yesterday evening around 6PM EST.  Dell
>>had 3 support gurus on the telephone, and other 2 took off for the
>>day earlier -- so I can assume they have 5 on the phones -- with
>>staggered shifts covering the east and west coasts..
>>
>Didn't they lay some people off or shift them to other tasks some
>time ago?  Or are all the folks that built the initial system with all
>the extra bells and whistles still in place?

Gee, it's starting to sound like the ESIX support our favorit
DELLevangelist has been griping about for so long!  :-)
-- 
heiser@world.std.com
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: shane@cs.sunysb.edu (Shane Bouslough)
Subject: Re: How to get Merge to see DOS partition?
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, State U of NY at Stony Brook
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:21:32 GMT

Larry Snyder (larry@news.rn.com) wrote:

: dold@unislc.uucp (Clarence Dold) writes:
: >>>partition. According to the Merge docs, the DOS partition
: >>>should appear as e:. Unfortunately it doesn't.
: 
: It does here.  We have a PC-DOS 3.3 partition that was installed on
: this machine first using the inner tracks on the hard drive.  We 
: are using Dell 2.2.
: 
: Was the original poster using 2.2 with DOS 3.3?

The problem is I formatted my DOS partition *after* I installed
Dell 2.2. My gripe was how user hostile Merge is to allowing
after-the-fact DOS partitions to be used. I will be trying some
of the other posted suggestions shortly. BTW, I'm using 5.0...
there are *still* people who use 3.3 :-)?

: Larry Snyder                                    internet: larry@gator.rn.com
: keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry

-Shane

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