From: m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson)
Subject: Re: 91 BlockBuster (Was Re: Bama in the polls)
Reply-To: m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. (VMS Software Support - Colorado)
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Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 22:55:11 GMT

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wilbanks@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Dylan Wilbanks) writes:

>m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson) writes:

>>It's also a well known documented fact about NU's problems vs top 20 teams
>>the last 4 years or so. Why do you ask if I doubt? I have spoken of this many
>>times in this newsgroup. It is OBVIOUS that Nebraska has fallen back in >quality
>>the last few years. With that in mind - why are you CU folk so damn proud that >>CU has beaten a "weak" Nebraska team ("weak" by Husker standards) 2 of the >>last
>>3 years? And those 2 wins were not easy. Since NU has not beaten a top-20 team
>>in that period - then why do you consider it a big accomplishment? And don't
>>tell me you don't. I live in Colorado and I KNOW BETTER.

>The same reason a Notre Dame fan would consider a defeat over a, say, 3-8 
>Michigan team an accomplishment - they beat a team with a history of prestige,
>not a team with a better record. Same with Nebraska - by beating them, we are
>not a team with a better record. Same with Nebraska - by beating them, we are 
>beating one of the "Big Red Machines" of the conference.
>And, by the way, one of the classiest teams in the conference. With the
>exception of those who continually mock us come game week, Nebraska fans and 
>players are some of the nicest people I've met. 

OK. I will accept that and thank you for the compliment. I compliment you on
having the courage to come out and say it. Lets just say that other CU fans
have been - shall we say - reluctant to admit it.

There will always be people who will "mock". 

I can say this though. I lived in Omaha for 32 years, Colorado for 3. So I
do know the press well in both locations. What I hear durring "Nebraska week"
on KOA Denver is much more bitter, curring and disrespectfull than what I had
EVER heard on KFAB Omaha durring "Oklahoma week". I'm talking about BOTH the
radio people and the call-in fans.

Say what you want about that - it's just my observation. I believe that OU/NU
people have cultivated a deep respect for each other over the years that seems
to be lacking in the NU/CU rivalry. 

Thru the years us Husker fans have learned to fear, respect, dislike, as well
as like Oklahoma. So far us Husker fans pretty much only dislike CU.   ;^)

>>Nebraska goes to Miami and gets creamed by the Canes (MNC's). Nebraska goes to >>Boulder and CU BARELY saves a tie with a blocked field goal in the last min. >>of the game. The year before NU goes to the bowl vs GA. Tech (MNC's) and gets >>beat
>>solidly. CU comes to Lincoln and has to pull out a come from behind 4th >>quarter win. The year before that NU plays Florida State in the bowl and gets >>beat solidly. Same year CU holds on to a close 4 point victory at home. What >>does that say to you? Don't be so Damn proud that you FINALLY beat us a few >>times.
<>The Huskers of the past few years have not been the mighty Huskers of old.
>>You have not beaten our best teams. Not by a long stretch of the imagination.
>>For that matter the same goes for Oklahoma.

>HEY. I don't think any of us on this net ever said "The '90 Buffs would 
>kick the '71 Huskers/Sooners asses if the game were ever played." No. It'd 
>be close, though. And I think that if the Huskers had been healthy in 
>1990 for the Citrus Bowl, Ga. Tech wouldn't have lasted a split-second in 
>Orlando. But look at what you have said - "On Bowl Day we get stuffed and 
>look at you, measly lil Colorado! You only beat/tied us by miniscule points."
>That is BS. Would you please go to the board and write the following 500 times?

The difference betweeen the '71 Huskers and teams of today is speed and athleticesm (sp?). I have a tape of the '71 "game of the centruy" (NU at
OU - #1 at #2) and the difference if speed and size of the playres is very
real. The difference in actual skills may not be that great. I think the CU
and NU teams of today might win vs the '71 Huskers based on that. But I'll
tell ya, I do not think that the '90 Cu team would beat the '83 Huskers, or
the mid-'80s Sooners. The Big-8 has dropped in quality since then but efforts
are being made to bring the conference back to national prominanace again.

Of course, what I just said about the '90 Buffs can never be proven. I's just
my opinion.

>	A 1 POINT WIN IS STILL A WIN. A 1 POINT WIN IS STILL A WIN.
>	A 1 POINT WIN IS STILL A WIN. A 1 POINT WIN IS STILL A WIN.
>	A 1 POINT WIN IS STILL A WIN. A 1 POINT WIN IS STILL A WIN.

This is not disputed.

>>>Talking about Miami, I find it amusing that the Hurricanes fell victim to a
>>>Hurricane! Hmm... maybe it's time they changed their name...

>>Geesh Njan, how can you joke about that? There was nothing at all "amusing" >>about the hurricane in south Florida. Even equating that tragidy to a GAME is >>out of place. Even if it is in a light hearted manner. If a heard of American >>Bison (There is no such thing in American as a "Buffalo") stampeeded thru >>Boulder and you were left without even the basic needs of life - you would not >>be making lighthearted statements about how CU should change it's name.
>>Nuff said!!!

>Hey - lighten up - it's just black humor. I feel for the people of Miami 
>and Louisiana who are still without clean water and food - I lived through
>the grat 1987 Tulsa ice storm, which knocked out power to 250,000 people at,
>of all times, Christmas - but the black humor that comes from the peril of 
>another man and the dark ironies that come from circumstance - for instance,
>a picture of the Lee's Chicken resturant after four employees were brutally 
>murdered the night before in a robbery showed the front sign - "Help Wanted"
>- are inevitable. It must be understood that sometimes an outlet of shock 
>is humor.

Do you know Njan personally? Did he have some personal stake in the hurricane
that gives him the need for "an outlet of shock" as humor?

I just don't think it is appropriate, thats all. I think it's Njan who should
"lighten up".

>>Lets just have a great and competitive Big-8 season and hope that the Big-8
>>elite once again join the ranks of the national elite.

>Amen. It's about time - let's not turn into the next Big 10.

Hey, we agree about something.   ;^)

>>>Njan

>>Njan, you make it sooooo easy.

>>By the way, just to set the record straight, I shall REPEAT my 1992 Big-8
>>prediction. Just to keep the masses silent.  ;^)

>>	1. Oklahoma,  Colorado  (Flip a coin)
>>	3. Nebraska

>>	Provided that: 1. OU and CU sucessfully convert to the "passing game"
>>                       2. NU Coach Osborne stays suck in the 70s

>>	IF OU and CU struggle with their offensive game conversions AND
>>	Coach Osborne opens the offense up...

>>	1. Nebraska
>>	2. Oklahoma,  Colorado  (Flip a coin)
>>	>3. Colorado,  Oklahoma  (Flip a coin)

>and after today's game, scenario #1 looks oh-so-much-more-likely....

Against CSU - a known patsie - CU looked pretty good after they got things
rolling. They may very well run the one-back pro offense effectively. But
data vs a team like CSU in not conlusive. Time and better opponents will
tell. The same goes for Nebraska's defense.

>Oh, I have Kansas State winning the conference, thanks to a few upsets here 
>and there. It's about time to REALLY shake things up....

I'm not ready to agree with that one.

>>Husker Henderson
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