HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: petitc@nuge105.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Re: Nice Guys?
Reply-To: petitc@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:00:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.164027.18434@europa.asd.contel.com>, ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com (Bob Ashley) writes:

|> Is there room in that freezer for another Nice Guy (TM) ?   :-)
|> 

  Heh.  I think that there may be, but I do believe that the freezer is already
full.  :&O

-- 
Trust:  A very precious social commodity, due both to high value and terrible
scarcity.
MATWDTM:  Mothers Against Teenagers Who Drink Too Much (failed name for MADD)




Xref: sparky alt.romance:11439 alt.sex:29107 alt.sex.bondage:17309 misc.misc:3294 news.misc:1610
From: dave@frackit.UUCP (Dave Ratcliffe)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.sex,alt.sex.bondage,misc.misc,news.misc
Subject: Give it a rest people (was: Re: Fuck You)
Summary: Oh boy... talk about overkill.
Keywords: bizarre posts
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:07:15 GMT
Followup-To: news.misc
Organization: Data Factory Services, Harrisburg, Pa.

In article <rsvanc00.715834161@mik.uky.edu>, rsvanc00@mik.uky.edu (Randolph S. Vance) writes:
> In <92Sep07.002821.14472@acs.ucalgary.ca> panlilio@acs.ucalgary.ca (Victor P. Panlilio) writes:
> >And if so, should we send the Net.Police after him? Comments?

Send WHO???? Get real!

> Absolutely. Jeff Spangenberg has inexcusably crossed the line
> between flame wars here by inciting other Skinhead Neo-Nazi
> ass-souls like himself to start race wars.

And you're ready to start something over it apparently. By the unwritten
rules of Usenet this discussion is now over since you have invoked the
dreaded "Nazi-syndrome". As for starting race-wars, HIS message won't
start anything but your rabid reaction is guaranteed to. 

> I am suprised that no one has bothered reporting this
> to the people at fbi.gov, maybe they have, maybe the
> FBI is going to look into possible civil rights violations
> against Mr. Spangenberg.
> 
> Nevertheless, let's take the time to help out our
> FBI, send a copy of Mr. Spangenberg's original posting to

That sound you hear is your knee jerking uncontrollably. If you think
the FBI is going to give a rats ass about that pitiful excuse for a
posting than you are a sorrier soul than Spangenberg is. 

> I'm sure swift action will be guaranteed. :)

I sincerely doubt it. The pitiful little scumbag posted a big baaad
nasty on the net and now people are starting to invoke the wrath of the
FBI on the stupid imbecile. Ferchrissake people. That one little message
has generated more indignant responses than it deserves. The little twit
is probably sitting there bubbling with glee at the reactions he's been
able to generate. 

Can we get back to IMPORTANT topics now and relegate this thread to the
obscurity it so richly deserves?


-- 
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 frackit!dave@uunet.UU.NET -or- dave@frackit.uucp -or-   |  Sys. <*> Admin. |
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From: bradl@informix.com (Brad Levy)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: LJBF songs
Date: 10 Sep 92 06:20:54 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Sep10.001622.20363@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> 21329KAD@MSU (Kim Dyer) writes:
>Seems there are a few different varieties of LJBF songs we're running
>in to.
>
>1)  Type 1 is the "I hurt, and I need a good long cry" variety.
>
>
>Any others?
>

Type 4 - Songs that remind you of and help fill you with hope, and help
         make you feel whole (if not complete) in spite of the loss...

         The John McCutcheon tune I posted earlier (The Great Storm is Over)
         fits this category. (It may be an odd choice/type for LJBF songs,
         but it helps me.  And while I would classify the song as spiritual,
         its not overly religious.)

- brad levy (bradl@informix.com)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: coates@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Tony Coates)
Subject: Re: The one you have been awaiting for is comeing up...
Keywords: fireplace, maybe???
Organization: Physics Dept. The University of Queensland
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:44:05 GMT

In article <BuC8Mp.Hs7@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, kramersc@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Scott C. Kramer) writes:
|>  Folks,
|>    I have written up my romantic story and will be writing it on here shortly
|> after I make any last minute corrections that need made neccessary.
|> I will enclose a copy to Mary, the RFA secretary, so that my being allowed
|> in RFA will be official.  This story, which you will all read about, has 
|> NO sex in it.  I wanted it that way because I believe, no matter what others
|> may think, that sex should be put off until after two people are married to
|> each other(I believe it is best this way).  So, if you expected any sex in
|> my article, you may as well as be disappointed.  Also, I am a virgin and that
                                                                 ^^^^^^
|> has a large part to do with why there is not any sex in the story.
|> 
|> I don't feel sorry at all for not having in it.
|> 
|> Well, let me know what you think, fellas..
|> 
|> Hugs to all<-----  
|> 
|> Your newest soon-to-be member of the RFA,
|> 
|> Scotto
|> 
|> Also soon to be official cowboy of the RFA(romantic cowboy he is)
|> 
|> "Born an Illini,
|>  Boilermaker by the grace of God"
|> 
|> 

Hey, Virgin, that's my star sign too :-) .  But I certainly sympathise
with your point of view, having myself only "lost" my virginity on my
wedding night.  Anyway, if you can't write a good romantic story without
sex, you can't write a good romantic story (but you can get a job with
Mill & Boon :-) ).

	I look forward to reading your application.
							Tony.
[Knight Defender of the Grail of Human Dignity]
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: ae498@yfn.ysu.edu (Dawn Bott)
Subject: Re: SO met through the computer. Anyone else ?
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 04:30:21 GMT


Okay, okay.....i confess... I am another "met my RP via
internet...."

we wrote email sporatically since this past january..
(I wrote him a short note after joining a local freenet
system because i did a directory check and saw he was from
England...and being from Ohio i was intregued as to how
he got on our little system..)

we chatted on IRC for the first time in early April..and have
talked to each other nearly every day since...

and we have had many long IRC sessions... for a while i was
averageing a 40 hour office week and a 40 hour IRC week!

(mostly weekends ....we have talked 10 hours at a time!
no..don't ask what about..i really don't know..but i do know
we laughed most that time!  =D )

he spent six weeks here this summer...and it was not awkward 
at all..i guess all the time we spent talking about ourselves
and our hopes, expectations, etc, etc really made a smooth
transition (plus we had included contact to the postal system
and had sent many pictures and silly gifts..)

and to be honest..i didn't expect the computer romance to 
turn into the real thing when we met..just trying to prevent a
big heartbreak, i guess...

but once here we knew it was real...

and now that he is back there....it's just a matter of time
till we are back together...

*sigh*  definitely the hard part of it all!!!!!!


Cheers --

Dawn
-- 
Irony is hygiene of the mind      --Elizabeth Bibesco
From: afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Who gets the longer stick, men or women? ;)
Summary: Bleah. :/
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:01:00 GMT
Organization: Ancient Souls Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <15SEP199209384654@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>, aatresa@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline) writes...
> 
>You talk about 20% of the men not being able to find women because of a 
>shortage of women.  I thought the last couple of censi (*MY* version of a 
>plural of census) said that women outnumbered men.  Sounds like you *guys* 
>are the ones in shortage.

Just the good ones, T. 

:-)

-- Stephen

		FISH -- Just For The Halibut !
From: mtompset@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Mark Tompsett)
Subject: Re: Nice Guys?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 10:29:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.123708.2937@wetware.com> diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) writes:
>Most people who ARE successful use a rather shot-gun approach
>to dating - rather like buying a new car - you don't set your
>sights on a Ferrarri and ONLY a Ferrarri unless you can afford
>it.  Those of us who are on the normal budget have a general
>idea of the kind of car we want - then we test-drive all the
>cars of that type and find the one we like BEST.  

Great! Now we have social "value" added as a complication to the social "game".
Well, put me down for $0.02... :(

                           Mark Tompsett
>disappointed.  You try LOTS of different people, and get to

What every happened to 3 strikes and you're out? It was so much easier then.

                    Mark Tompsett
From: derekr@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs Discussion list
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:14:59 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <1992Sep8.205324@cs.bham.ac.uk>, eyc@cs.bham.ac.uk (Ed Carter) writes:
> I just thought I'd de-lurk to wonder about this particular
> thread for a moment.
> 
> From what else I've read here, it seems that a useful social
> function could be served by starting a LJBF Songs Discussion
> List for people to listen to when utterly miserable. Either
> to cheer themselves up or, of course, to wallow in self pity.
> 
> After all, who needs music when you're in love?        :-)
> 
> 
> (I only mentioned it 'cos I can only think of miserable songs
> at the moment and I was feeling left out. sniffle.)


Well, the song "Script for A Jester's Tear" by Marillion is my personal 
favorite wallowing song.  One of the best ways to wallow is to listen to 
"your song" after you break up with someone.  
	No songs cheer me up but certain bands tend to drive the painful 
things away i.e. Metallica, Soundgarden, Ministry, etc.

-Derek
From: kevinc@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (kevin.j.coulter)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs Discussion list
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:10:43 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep5.223851.9276@bsu-ucs.uucp> 01ksdavis@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
>
>		Name specific songs and artists, if you can't do both, at least
>give the name of the song or some lyrics from it.  (Since computers have perfect
>pitch, not being able to sing yourself is not a problem here.)


How about:

"All I Ask of You" by Andrew Lloyd Weber, from "Phantom of the Opera"
"Love Changes Everything" by Andrew Lloyd Weber, from "Aspects of Love"
"If There Hadn't Been You" by Billy Dean
"You and I" by Eddie Rabbitt and Crystal Gayle
"Forever's As Far As I'll Go" by Alabama
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: kkr42091@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (QUEEN ZENOBIA!)
Subject: Re: SO met through the computer. Anyone else ?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:53:43 GMT

Well my fiance and i met through IRC... he being in Finland and i being in 
Illinois doesnt help matters... 
but we will be getting married next summer [if we can get everything arranged]
after knowing each other for two years and being engaged for one.

Please people just remember that when you meet someone over the net....
do not immediately transfer there even if you have met in person and liked 
each other there... 
I was fortunate enough that Masa [my fiance] could take a semester off of 
school... and we lived together then... and also this last summer
i lived in Finland with himin order to learn finnish better, since we 
will be living there permanently.  

Also if you planning on moving across international borders....
then you must really think your decision over, especially if the 
culture conflicts with the one you grew up in.  There are going to be a lot
of things you have to give up and you will probably miss for a quite a long
time... so please do think .

Probably the biggest problems in relationships across the computers,
is lack of trust & thinking rationally, lying, and missing the person 
incredibly.  When it comes to thinking rationally, a lot of people will
say that you cant think rationally when you are in love.... well *shrug*

One good way to tell if you two are on the same wavelength or not....

Each of you come up with your own lists of what you think being in love is.
It will eliminate a lot of problems, and can tell the two of you, 
whether this might work out.

Good luck to all in LDR from computers.

-kimberli roan

Organization: Senior, English, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 11:14:44 -0400 
From: "Pamela J. Bernhardt" <pb2i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Songs question

What love songs that you can think of never mention the word Love in them?

I'm not saying  that they replace it with "The feeling" ie REO Speedwagon.
But songs that are so much love songs even though they don't say I love
you, or Love in them.

Please email or post, I'd love to know.

Pam

"Floating, Falling, sweet intoxication
Touch me, Trust Me, savor each sensation
Let the dream begin,
Let the darker side give in,
To the power of the music that I write,
The power of the music of the night."
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: j-grout@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (grout john robert)
Subject: Re: LJBF songs
Reply-To: j-grout@uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:52:54 GMT

Type 6... You may want to continue to be friends after our breakup, but I don't.
          For example, "Don't Expect Me to Be Your Friend", by Lobo.
-- 
John R. Grout			| INTERNET: j-grout@uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: buick@belay (Patrick D. Buick)
Subject: Re: Looking for help
Organization: Belay Enterprises Inc. Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 04:27:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.174802.19739@afit.af.mil> jholtgra@afit.af.mil (Jeremy C. Holtgrave) writes:
>In article <1992Aug23.053820.11271@cs.tulane.edu> burger@convex1.tcs.tulane.edu (The Rodman) writes:
>>In article <22669@sybase.sybase.com> ejs@sybase.com (gator fodder) writes:
>>>In article <1992Aug19.073433.17786@rniwi.rni.sub.org> frank@rniwi.rni.sub.org (Frank Mogaddedi) writes:
>>>>So tell me, what would be good ways to start?
>>>>Or is the rumor right, that you'll never find anybody while you're
>>>>looking? If that's the truth, I'm looking forward to a _really_ lonely
>>>>future :-(
>>>>
>>>>So, dear netland, what are your opinions? How does one 'look without
>>>>looking'?
>>>
>>>The rumor is true in my experience.  Whenever I went looking I was
>>>invariably disappointed.  Eventually I gave up and decided to be happy on
>>>my own, and I met someone almost immediately.
>>>
>>
>>  This is not a personal flame, but I can't stand it when I hear adages like
>>  this perpetuated as the absolute truth and often supported by a sample
>>  size of 1.  Let's talk about base rates, people.  Let's talk about all
>
>		[stuff deleted]
>
>I think the original poster has an important point, which is it is
>possible to try too hard.  While there's alot to be said for taking
>matters into your own hands, sometimes the best thing to do is just relax
>and not worry about it.  The trick is knowing the balance between the
>two.
>
>Jeremy
>

I just gotta comment... I have noticed the same trend... 

The idea is to be secure in yourself and enjoy your life..
when they see you having fun.. they want to join in.. 
This applies to MOTSS as well as MOTOS... you get more
friends, and potential relationships.

Patrick
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: emilyz@cwis.unomaha.edu (Emily Ziskovsky)
Subject: Re: SO met through the computer. Anyone else ?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Distribution: alt
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 01:41:06 GMT

sharon@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Sharon Curtis) writes:

>In a previous article:
>>               Is there anyone else out there who met his/her SO through the
>>       computer ? It would be fun to hear similar cases.

>I met my SO that way.
>We were both logging into a sort-of computer chatline, where people use
>pseudonyms, and then one guy started saying really nasty things to me,
>and my first contact with my now-SO was him mailing me offering to find
>out who was being nasty to me and making sure he didn't do it again.
>My now-SO fixed it too! I never heard from the nasty guy again - sorta
>reminds me of a knight in shining armour - I think it's rather romantic
>to be a damsel in distress and rescued!

>Anyway we got to exchanging emails, and eventually swapped phone numbers
>and when we talked to each other on the phone, we just clicked!

>Long live romance!


>Incidentally my fella is lovely, and I like doing romantic things for him,
>but I'm running out of ideas - what do you guys out there find really
>romantic for a girlfriend to do to/for you?

>Thanks,

>Sharon


My SO and I also met on a multi-line chatboard, at an 'orgy' with a few
others we'd talked with.  We started exchanging email, and went from there
to dating...  and as of right now we've been married 4 1/2 months.  :)
So I am DEFINITELY a big fan of computer romances!  :)


Emily
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Subject: Re: Nice Guys?
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:23:01 GMT

mtompset@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Mark Tompsett) writes:

] diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) writes:
] >Most people who ARE successful use a rather shot-gun approach
] >to dating - rather like buying a new car - you don't set your
] >sights on a Ferrarri and ONLY a Ferrarri unless you can afford
] >it.  Those of us who are on the normal budget have a general
] >idea of the kind of car we want - then we test-drive all the
] >cars of that type and find the one we like BEST.  
] 
] Great! Now we have social "value" added as a complication to 
] the social "game".
] Well, put me down for $0.02... :(

Errr - where did you get "value" out of that?

The above is an *analogy* - I could have just as easily used
the analogy of trying on different styles/sizes of clothing,
or trying different foods at different restaurants, until the
style or taste we prefer becomes obvious.  I chose the car
analogy simply because we tend to keep cars for a long time,
and because we usually only have ONE car at a time.

The point is that unless you are UNUSUALLY patient, you
don't put your heart and sights on something you haven't
tested.  And you don't know for sure that you wouldn't
prefer something <someone> who is NOT your mental image
of the ideal until you've tried other options.  

I know what I like in cars; I know what makes me feel 
good in clothing; I know what kind of things I like to
order when I eat out - but this knowlege comes from many
years of TRYING things.  And the same is true of people.
 
But I also know that just because I have some specific
needs from a partner, I also know that I won't KNOW if
he has/doesn't have those characteristics until I've
known him for a while.  And again - when I am (was) in
the market, I tried a LOT of different people before
I found the PYM.

] >disappointed.  You try LOTS of different people, and get to
] 
] What every happened to 3 strikes and you're out? It was so much easier then.

Because most people aren't content with staying "out". 
If they were, they wouldn't be complaining.

Diana
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: gewilson@eos.ncsu.edu (Buddha)
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs Discussion List
Originator: gewilson@c00051-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: gewilson@eos.ncsu.edu (GREG WILSON)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:09:29 GMT






	A couple of cents from a lurker:



	One of my all-time favorite songs is 'Jill', by Harry
	Connick, Jr.  IMHO, it is THE perfect slow-dance song.
	It's on _Red Light, Blue Light_, by the way.

	Some other songs include:

		'Romantic' by Karen White  (sp?)
		'Just Another Day' by John Secada   (sp? again)
		'I Want You So Bad' by Heart
		'Faithfully' and 'Open Arms' by Journey
		'Take My Breath Away' by Berlin
		'I Want To Hold Your Hand' by The Beatles
		'Say It In A Song' by Jim Croce
		and especially "Time In A Bottle' by Jim Croce


	And a whole bunch of others, but these are (almost all of)
the best ones.


							Greg Wilson


	gewilson@eos.ncsu.edu
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From: gds@CS.UCLA.EDU (Greg Skinner)
Newsgroups: alt.music.karaoke,ba.music
Subject: Re: Karaoke list
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:17:43 GMT
Reply-To: gds@CS.UCLA.EDU (Greg Skinner)
Organization: in your face!

I didn't realize there were big contests like that up in the SF bay
area.  They have contests like that around LA, but the prizes are
never that large.  The largest prize I've ever heard of is about $500.

I'm curious about several things regarding these contests:

* Where does the music come from?  I've seen LaserDisc, DKKaraoke, and
  Pocket Songs primarily.  Some people I know make their own tapes
  using vocal eliminators, while others write their own songs
  and bring them in on tape.
* What songs do people usually sing?
* How good are the singers?  Are any of them pros or semi-pros?
* How are judges selected, and what do they base their judgment on?

There's a traveling karaoke company called Singing With the Hits whose
shows I go to, off and on.  They've been on local TV, but I wasn't
there for the filming.  Most of the people who participate do it for
fun, but there are some people who are (or were) pros or semi-pros.
Even some of the people who just do it for fun are very good singers,
who could possibly land a pro or semi-pro gig with the right breaks.

--gregbo
From: @oswego.Oswego.EDU (chris hallen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re. Barenaked ladies
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:15:34 GMT
Organization: SUNY OSWEGO

I'm going to see the ladies in buffalo on thursday night at the icon
they are also playing wed. a 21 and over show which i personally can't make it to 
because of classes but might be a better show possibly a smaller crowd etc.

as far as comments regarding  gordon and the original versions on the cassette 
i like the original versions better i feel the album to be a little over produced but 
still good.  

chris
From: tcronin@ocf.berkeley.edu (Tom Cronin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Morrissey in a Speedo?!?
Date: 8 Sep 1992 20:24:15 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: earthquake.berkeley.edu

         I just picked up a cassette single of Tomorrow by
  Morrissey, and the beautiful cover photo is Morrissey and
  a band member lounging on the beach, with Mo wearing a
  speedo-style suit reading a newspaper.  (Variety, to be
  precise.)  I have not seen the single on CD or 12", but
  I would assume it is meant for wide-scale release, as I
  saw the video for it (on MTV) on Saturday.  The video is Mo and co.,
  roaming around a castle while Morrissey sings.  At the end,
  they high five, shake hands, and generally congratulate
  each other on the video, although it's not that great.
	 Just to gloat, I got tickets to the October 13
  show at the Concord Pavillion, Sec. B, Row B.  See you
  there!  (And at the October 15 San Jose show.)

		    Tom
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