HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gauri@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Gauri Pavate)
Subject: Re: Arrogant Indians and Susan Forgach
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:37:19 GMT

RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:


>One thing that is in my opinion objectionaable is that RvW does not allow
>the state to give an incentive to the woman to have her abortion early.
>Maybe there are uneducated women who do not know that they are prgnant,
>but under the present system, even a woman who is teaching a course on
>reproduction, MAY delay her abortion to five and half months if she wishes.


	Well, actually it is found that most abortions in the U.S.
do take place quite early on in pregnancy and much before the
viability of the fetus.

	About 91 percent of all abortions are found to occur in the 
first trimester (1-12 weeks), about 9 percent occur in the second
trimester (13-24 weeks), and only  .001 percent occur in the third
trimester (past 24 weeks) when the fetus is considered viable.

	Factors accounting for abortions after the first trimester
include undiagnosed pregnancies (especially among teenagers),
unforseen tragedy in the woman's life, medical complications, severe
defects in the fetus, etc.  While some of these later abortions could 
be prevented by better education and health care, it seems clear that
in some other cases they may be unavoidable for the woman.

	However, the very few but absolutely late third trimester
abortions occuring after fetal viabilty are found to invariably
take place only when the woman's health is at grave risk.

	So as it stands under the present system, a large majority
of the abortions are taking place at the earliest and safest period
possible and well before fetal viabilty.


						Gauri.

p.s. Apparently abortion as a procedure is generally not performed
before the first 7 weeks of pregnancy.
From: mereddy@walt.tmc.edu (Praveen K. Mereddy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Email address of University of Alabhama at Birmingham
Date: 13 Sep 92 05:10:13 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State Univ.

I would appreciate if you could put this mail on net work...........
*************************************************************************

I am looking for a person, Ramesh Reddy, supposed to be at University of
Alabhama at Birmingham.  He is MS(Com. Sci.) student came to US in 1990.
Even if any body knows the email address of the school please sned me to
the following address.

mereddy@walt.cs.msstate.edu
pkm1@ra.msstate.edu

Thanks,
Praveen.

*************************************************************************
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ngopalas@ha15.eng.ua.edu (Nath S. Gopalaswamy)
Subject: Fixation with Tall, dark handsome types
Organization: The University of Alabama
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:00:43 GMT


I wonder why women are perceived to desire the stereotypical tall, dark
handsome type? Why not Tall, fair, not-so-handsome types? Or short, fair,
handsome types (Michael Fox types)? 
In fact this stereotype has become so common, that even when women are asked
truthfully what they prefer, pat comes the parrotted reply, tall, dark, handsome

Also on a side note, almost all of the interracial marriages in the US seem to
be between black males and white women. I have only heard of one case (David
Bowie and Iman) which is the reverse. Isn't this a bit curious?

Nath.


-- 

ZZtop, Pink F, LedZep, Queen are wimps!!	e-mail: ngopalas@buster.eng.ua.edu
Gimme Guns n Roses anyday!
From: txd6871@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: TRAVEL AGENTS -new survey
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:31:56 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

Hi,

Does anybody has the latest survey on TRAVEL AGENTS...the one I have is
very old, '90 Dec, and most of the tel. nos. are not working.

By the way, does anybody know a good travel agent in NY/NJ area ?

-Tirthankar
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.sri-lanka,soc.history
From: nn1@Ra.MsState.Edu (N. Narenthiran)
Subject: Re: Were there universities in India before the British went?
Keywords: world
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:34:09 GMT

thaya@Siri.Unit.NO (Thayanantha Balasundaram) writes:

>In article <BuKoM3.384@apollo.hp.com>, nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson) writes:
> > 
> > 
> >    Well
> >    As an American
> >    I am 
> >    
> >    "Well,
> > 
> > 
> > ---peter
> > 
> > 
> > 
>      you do not have rights to post here. understand! 

>      President of the United States of America
>      your sincierly 
>      thayanantha

Please, do not make comments like this.  This is the kind of attitude
that's keeping the fight going on with both sides support in my country
(Sri Lanka).

Even if this was supposed to be a joke, it stinks. 

Also, check the header line, before posting.  The above discussion was
common to soc.culture.indian, soc.culture.sri-lanka, and soc.history.
I do not think that there would be anybody who can claim a right to post
in all these places according to your message.  The net is a free place
and anybody should be able to post anywhere (so long as you are not
insulting all the other readers of that group, in which case it's polite
not to).

-----------------------------------

But, with regard to the question being discussed,
     what about people who would not care to listen to the rest of the 
story?  As soon as you say "No, We did not have universities, but.."
there are many who would say "Aha, I knew it."  This is normal with
most individual's in that we tend to think that in some way our culture
is better than the other's (or that *I* am better than the other :-)).
  So, I don't see why it is wrong to say that we did have universities.
If you want to start going according to the dictionary definitions, you
have to say no to everything, as in example, "Norse Religion" is something
that exists in English language only (atleast the words).  This can be
a cycle.  Rather than that, shouldn't we answer in the sense closest
to the question?  After all we are talking about questions asked by a
normal person.  If I were to ask somebody "Did you have Universities"
I mean places where you studied at higher level, and not places where
they had any particular kind of set up (Atleast a dunce like me might
ask such a question :-)).   Any answers ?......

have a nice day.
naren.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bond@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Girish Bonde)
Subject: Re: RSS ( MP Government's Silent revolution in Education)
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 15:22:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.024929.2118@u.washington.edu> ngrjn@milton.u.washington.edu (V Nagarajan) writes:
>
>	This is true. Either Raj is naive or he is trying to pull the wool
>	over everyone else's eyes. Last year, at the height of the Shiv Sena-
>	BJP bhai bhai' period, Bal Thackeray opined at a public meeting
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	that Gandhi had deserved an early death. Murli Manohar Joshi or Vajpayee
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	(of "Gandhian Socialism" fame) who was sharing the podium with 
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	Thackeray did not react to this statement, a rather outrageous one
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	even for a scum like Bal Thackeray. BJP's silence was interpreted
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	in the press as an inevitable `coming out of the closet' from their
>	historically contradictory position regarding Gandhiji.
>       [.....]
>							- Nagarajan


        I attended this public meeting in Pune where this scum Bal Thackeray
        preposterously talked about Gandhi's murder. And neither Murli Manohar
        Joshi nor Vajpayee were sharing the podium with Thackeray. The only
        BJP leader present at that time was the BJP candidate Anna Joshi who
        won that election against Vitthalrao Gadgil of Cong(I). And by the way,
        the then BJP party president Lalkrishna Advani did protest against Bal
        Thackeray's comments. And the real reason for the largely kept silence
        was that they did not want to risk the Shiv Sena votes in Maharashtra.

        - Girish.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: thaya@solan.unit.no (Thayanantha Balasundaram)
Subject: nailon big ball
Followup-To: m
Keywords: wearing,poonool  
Organization: Norwegian Institue of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 16:31:10 GMT

If your ball is sitting up nice and high in the
rough, how often have you or have you seen someone
address the ball and the ball suddenly moves into
a poor lie?  i.e. you haven't touched the ball in
your address but by the slight pressure of the club
behind the ball, the ball drops.   The rule states
you must declare a one shot penalty.   I think in
the example just mentioned,  you have already
penalized yourself by going from a nice 'flyer lie'
to difficult shot out of the rough.

To avoid this one shot penalty, I will never ground
my club in the rough upon address if I believe the
ball may move.  However, this is one of those rules
that I'd like to see changed.   Any comments or other
rules that you'd like to see changed?

right...

I am  getting almost as good as i am in finding arcane scenarios to
push the limits of what the rules say.  I think his scenario is covered by
decision 27/13 or decision 33-7/7.  27/13 covers when you think your
opponent has dishonestly not identified my ball, and 33-7/7 covers
two competitors conspiring to avoid a penalty.

Bye
Adil

Boo!





Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Subject: ....vekateswara temple in tirupati....
Reply-To: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:54:57 GMT


I skipped a few days of SCI posters, when the tirupati-was-
a-siva-temple-originally-till-recently was a predominant thread.

What came out of it?  Was tirupari a `convert' ??

If then when did it happen ?  How will the fact that annamA_cArya
sang about `aeDu_konDala_vADa' (the guy of seven hills) way back in
the 13 century (?) ?   fit into such a `theory' (or disprove it?)...?


Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)


emails suggested to prevent another deluge from washing away
sanity on SCI...
From: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Sati is good ...
Date: 11 Sep 1992 01:46:59 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
NNTP-Posting-Host: prem.lbl.gov

In article <775@iac.uunet.uu.net> iac!meha@uunet.uu.net writes:
>
>>yeah right!! the double headers and [ two other set of headers that
>>were removed to lessen your embarrassment ] show how intelligent you
>>are. i guess you are in the ninety percent non-intelligent period now.
>>Suresh
>
>I was waiting for this.  I just laugh.
>YOU are still lame.  You can't be sweet, at least not in 
>this life time.  Yeah, yeah.
>You have guessed wrong.  It was the computer's fault.  
                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	And if you're so damn ingenious, why don't you fix the
	bloody computer!!!

	Anyway, what the heck does this bickering have to do with
	the "Re: Sati is good" title ??  And why don't you take
	this inane argument into the private e-mail domain ?? Why
	in soc.culture.i, when it is neither social nor cultured ??

	Don't get me wrong. If you have something to contribute on this 
	subject or any other, go ahead and post it. If it is just a childish 
	"did not" -- "did too, nya-na-nya-na-nyaa-naah"  type of conversation,
	do us all a favour and e-mail directly to each other. Please.

	Thank you.
	Prem!


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bharat@ccvax.ucd.ie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Sonia's book on Rajiv
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:10:56 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

In article <1992Sep3.230550.5373@colorado.edu>, manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu) writes:
> 
> who cares?
Who asked you ???

> 
> Njan
sergei vodka vibgyor
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ngopalas@ha24.eng.ua.edu (Nath S. Gopalaswamy)
Subject: Re: Fixation with Tall, dark handsome types
Organization: The University of Alabama
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 02:18:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.194903.1582@research.nj.nec.com>, rsd@sun033.Berkeley.EDU (Rajiv Dighe) writes:
|> In article <w0sntb=.cass@netcom.com>, cass@netcom.com (Diana Tenery-Fisher) writes:
|> |> (talk, dark, handsome... and inter-racial marriage stuff deleted)
|> |> 
|> |> Do you know what the instance of inter-racial relationships/marriages
|> |> for Indians and Americans is? If it even happens, does it tend to be
|> |> Indian men and american women or Indian women and american men? Does
|> |> anyone know of an literature or movies on the subject? Thanks.
|> |> 
|> |> diana
|> |> 
|> Well, lemme go and stick my neck out on this one.
|> Based on what I have seen ( and I admit that I havent seen enough
|> to even start building a statistical model ), I will hazard a guess
|> that the percentage of indian women married to american men is larger
|> than the percentage of indian men married to american women.
|> Why this is the case may be based on the following analysis:
|> We can divide the Indians in America into two classes:
|> 1) Indians born and brought up in this country:
|> To most of them, an arranged marriage is an anthema and they
|> are most likely to find their own significant other.
|> Given that there are more americans than indians in the sample
|> set that a particular indian can choose from (in this category),
|> it is very likely that a larger percentage of them choose
|> an american rather than an indian as a SO.
|> Do more women in this category choose americans (I know I am being vague
|> in the defn of american, but that is for future discussions :-)) than
|> men ?
|> It is difficult to say.
|> Talking to an extremely self-assured 21 year old Yale graduate
|> on this topic led to this profound observation:
|> She would never consider marrying an Indian male because she finds them
|> to be a) more confining in their attitude to the working women,
|> b) less accepting of equal status in a marriage and
|> c) far more likely to place an unfair burden on the woman as
|> far as domestic work is concerned.
|> If she speaks for all the women in this category (which I doubt
|> but would welcome inputs), then the above assertion would be true.

This concurs exactly with the observations I have made here. So you are
probably right in saying that our fairer sex seem to be more inclined
to marry outside than our esteemed brethren. Pity, already the female:male
ratio is so low in India, this situation is not going to make it any
better. :-)

Nath.

PS No feminist flames pliss, they will be bounced back.

|> Rajiv-donning-his-asbestos-langot

-- 

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Gimme Guns n Roses anyday!
/Earth is 98 percent full...  please delete anyone you can.
Disclaimer:  Any errors in spelling, tact, or fact are transmission errors.
From: saeed@a.cs.okstate.edu (SAEED FAISEL)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Looking for astrology program
Keywords: astrology program
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:12:25 GMT
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater

In article <1992Sep4.211302.16052@cbfsb.cb.att.com> shree@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (sanjiv.bhatt) writes:
>
>I am looking for program of astrology. I tried to use
>program available on comp.sources.misc but it is of
>western type, base on sun. I am looking for based on
>Luner which create can create Horoscope based on 
>indian astrology.
>
>I would prefer on unix or pc-based program not only
>executable file ( If nothing else then this will also fine)
>but c code so that I can combine result with postscript design
>and perhaps Hindi/Sanskrit font.
>

Yes, me too !

Thanks
-- 

Faisel Saeed

Computer Science Department,   Oklahoma State University,   Stillwater, OK
From: swaroop@hal.COM (Swaroop)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: H-1 Multiple Entry VISA
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:40:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: sai.hal.com


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VISA.

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west Airlines from San Fransisco to El Paso. The ticket along with companion 
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itting the cost in near future, please contact him at 

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Swaroop
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gita@athena.cs.uga.edu (Gita Vemparala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Stolen passports etc..., thanx for the replies!
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:20:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Sep15.182004.14601
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In response to my call for help with stolen passports, I received several
extremely useful replies. I wish to thank each one of the following for
the time they have spared to send me detailed responses. I have assimilated
the info in the form of a file, which i'll be happy to mail to anyone
interested, or save for future use in case someone else meets with similar
misfortune. The name list (in chronological order):

Raghu
Amol Joshi
Vivek Prabhu
Nath
Sunil
Atul Vinayak
Charles Andrew Regis
Mani Chawla

I may need to contact some of the above for more info later on.

ravi vemuri
From: RAJA@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: India contributes $100 million to the super-collider project
Date: 10 Sep 92 02:37:40 GMT
 <1992Sep9.095908.49648@ccvax.ucd.ie>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Sep9.095908.49648@ccvax.ucd.ie>, bharat@ccvax.ucd.ie says:
>
>In article <1992Sep8.190016.13866@jade.tufts.edu>, slahiri@jade.tufts.edu
>(Sandip Lahiri) writes:
>> Few days back, I remember someone telling me that India has
>> donated $100 million to the super-collider project. In fact, India
>                              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>what's this project about??? Could any one...
>
>-sergei vodka vibgyor.
>
>
>> is the only foreign country that has contributed to this project
>> so far !! Can anyone substantiate this ?
>>
>> -Sandip
Yes it is true! India until recently, joined by Taiwan a few days ago, was the
only country that had committed resources of  value 50 million dollars. It is
not a cheque but probably manpower andf materials and thus worth more than $50
million.

If you are interested there are newsgroups ssc...... for news about the Superco
llider. It is an accelerator smashing protons on protons with a total energy of
 40 TeV(1 followed by 12 zeroes), to compare a molecule of sugar weighs about 2
00 times less. In sum this is a way  from some people to get a free ticket to S
tockholm!

rajagopalan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: rroy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Raja R Roy)
Subject: Re: SALMAN RUSHDIE
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:14:25 GMT



In article <1992Sep10.173717.4158@twg.com> khan@twg.com (Sharaz Khan) writes:
>Somehow the story of Salman Rushdie will be thrown in the 
>face of the Muslims time after time.  Salman Rushdie's 
>novel was funded for the very same reason that many of us
>are unaware of.     
>
>Picture this; a novel writer who is not even critically 
>acclamed receives a grant to mass produce his novel from 
>Penguin books.  This would seem a bit out of the normal.

    This is bullshit. He was a highly acclaimed novelist before he wrote
 Satanic Verses. 

>
>Secondly, his book is written in a time prior to the Gulf 
>war around the time when the Soviet Union is at its breaking
>point.  At the same time, the language that used to be thought
>to the CIA (Russian) changes its curriculum to Arabic.  

     Makes no sense. What do you want to convey?

>
>In my opinion, the book was simply another tool used and 
>defended by the big 5 who have the power to veto any bill 
>passed in the UN, to get a consensus of:         
>
>1) The Islamic reaction around the world
>2) To which levels would muslims go to in order to defend Islam
>3) What are the numbers of Muslims in and around Europe. 

      Pathetic thinking. How does one find the number of muslims by writing
 a novel? Beats me. 
      What is so special about Islam that big 5 will like to do such silly
  things. You are being paranoid.

>
>And I believe, that Rushdie's book has acheived it's goal.  But
>the problem lies with our Muslims today who would fall for this
>trap.

   What trap?  Why would anybody do that? Are muslims so important ?
 Where do islamic states stand on power equation ? What has west to be
 afraid about ?  

>
>In Salman's book, a double-standard manisfests itselt too.  Today
>one will not find the book "Protocols of Zion" in any book store.
>Why?  Is that not what one may call "A work of fiction"?  Oh No!
>It is "hate literaure".  Well, tell that to a Muslim about Salman's
>book, and he won't agree more.
>
>As far as I am concerned, the big five are out to wage war against 
>Islam in a way never perceived before, and if we Muslims are not 
>ready for it (and I include Pakistanis), you may well see Pakistan
>as the next Iraq.
   
    I don't see why Islam should be so important for west. Any reasons.
 West has everything, money and power. Once oil is gone ( in 50 years ),
 where will Islamic states be? 

 Raja
>
>My opinions and your comments.
>
>Sharaaz Khan
>
> 
>
From: iac!meha@uunet.uu.net (Meha Mehta - ITG Los Angeles)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Sati is for our good!!
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:22:35 GMT
Reply-To: iac!meha@uunet.uu.net
Distribution: usa
Organization: Investment Technology Group, Culver City, CA

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Sati is for our good!!
Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: Investment Technology Group, Culver City, CA
Keywords: 

In article <1561@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> av2@ukc.ac.uk (A.Varshneya) writes:
>In article <754@iac.uunet.uu.net> iac!meha@uunet.uu.net writes:
>>Hey, you have been hanging around too many men that you have not realized
>>that women are the ONLY 'intelligent' ones, period!!!
>>- Meha             
>
>:-) Being a gentleman, I can only smile and nod. :-)
>
>Atul
>
>A man opened a door for a women.
>"You don't have to do that because I am a lady.", the liberated women said.
>"Right", the man replied, "I did it because I am a gentleman."

I like your reply.  So after all Mr. Suresh is not a gentleman.

-Meha



















Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: chaw@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (S. S. Chawathe)
Subject: Re: Why the world should be grateful to the USA!!
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date:  9 Sep 92 02:37:01 GMT

horne@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM (Tim Horne) writes:
>       The USA is great!!  The world should be thankful to
>       them for keeping the peace and new world order 
>       especially in the Middle East.  George Bush is a 
>       wonderful President and Peace Keeper.

And (read my lips) the Earth is flat.

I guess people get the government they deserve!
-- 

_________________________________________________________________
Chaw@cs.Stanford.edu                                 tat tvam asi
From: sngattan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (The Almighty)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Singapore visitor's visa?
Date: 15 Sep 1992 00:34:54 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

Hello:

	I need to get a visitor's visa for Singapore.  Where do we
have Singapore consulate in this country?  How much time will it take
to get a visa by mail.  Thanks for all the responses in advance.

						sanjay
	                                                     
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.sri-lanka,soc.history