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From: wlhadley@swift.mitre.org (Bill Hadley)
Subject: Help!  I'm Getting a Second Cat and I Need Advice (retry)....
Followup-To: rec.pets.cats
Reply-To: wlhadley@swift.mitre.org (Bill Hadley)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:32:32 GMT


Hello again.  I was notified that the lines in my original post were longer
than 80 characters.  I appoligize if that caused anyone problems.  It is not
an excuse, but I am new to the news reader I am using and I thought it would
take care of making the lines the proper length for me (it looked right on my
screen).  Please, no puns on the word "assume".  Thanks.  Anyway, let me try
this again.  (Thanks Sandra for pointing the problem out to me and for the
advise on my problem.)


Hello all!  I am going to be taking in a cat this weekend (King Tut) and I am
not sure how to introduce him to the cat I already have (Pepper).  Pepper is a
one year old, neutered, male cat that is extremely friendly!!  He is an indoor
cat and still has his claws.  Tut is not very friendly to people all the time,
but he is used to being around other animals (Pepper is not).  Tut is a little
over 1 year old, neutered, and semi-friendly.  He is also an indoor cat who has
had his front claws removed.  The problem is that he bites (hard).  Where he
currently lives, he has bitten one of the children twice.  He bites me (when I
go over there) once and a while, but not too badly.  (I think he just doesn't
like kids, but I'm not too willing to bet my fingers on it 8-)  Anyway, I need
some advice.  I need to know how to bring Tut into my apartment with freaking
out Pepper too badly.  I also need for them to get along.  If Tut goes nuts and
tries to attack Pepper and bite him, at least Pepper still has his claws and can
defend himself.  But I *REALLY* don't want them to fight (especially not like
that!!!).  Any pieces of advice along those lines will be greatly appreciated.
I also need any advice on how to break Tut of this biting problem.  I don't want
to see anything bad happen to Tut just because he bites.  If I cannot keep him,
I do plan on trying to find a home for him (not just "get rid of him").

Any advice will be greatly appreciated!
Bill


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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: morin@noao.edu (Marg Morin)
Subject: Re: Welcome to the First Cat (Socks)
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson AZ
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 20:50:07 GMT

>>A 21 can salute to the soon-to-be-resident cat in the White House,
>>Socks!  When (if ever) was the last time there was a cat in the
>>White House?
>
>The Carters had a White House Cat, so the last one left in 1980.
>
>Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
>Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu

Does this mean that Democrats are cat people while Republicans
are dog people?

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	aka: The Seeker   		 AURA/NOAO Tucson, AZ
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From: vboynton@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Virginia R Boynton)
Subject: Re: Raw pork ok for cats?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:28:42 GMT

In article <Nimtz.1-131192122212@nimtziici.edmedia.nd.edu> Nimtz.1@nd.edu (Rick
 Nimtz) writes:
>Is it ok to feed cats raw pork?
>
>
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Rick Nimtz                              INTERNET: Richard.D.Nimtz.1@nd.edu
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER!
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 11:50:42 MST
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: $stephan@sasb (Stephan Fassmann, Software)
Subject: Re: What to name a male BLACK kitten...
Organization: BYU


>> Well, I've loved reading what you've all thought about male white kittens,
>> how about male Black kittens. :)
>

How about HyperMass (Hyper-Cat), Obsidion (Obby), Ebony (Ebby), Oboe, Bufurt,
Night, Phantom.

Can anyone remember the names of the Egyption God(s) of the night?

_____________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: fease@dkas.enet.dec.com (Andrea Midtmoen Fease)
Subject: Re: cat behavior
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp., Marlboro MA
Date:  6 NOV 92 10:06:29    


Susan,

     My guess is that since Peaches is not spayed, she became excited by the
actions of the two amorous tomcats (perhaps she was in heat, too?).  When she 
came in, she associated the excitement/frustration/agitation/territorial 
invasion she was feeling with Cream, and took it out on him. 

     Cream is also hissing/spitting/growling to defend himself from the upset
Peaches.

     I don't know how long this will go on, but I think this may be the cause.
Hopefully someone else will have the cure (my cats are indoor only and spayed/
neutered, so I haven't had this problem personally, so I'm sorry I can't give
you any other advice).

					- Andrea
From: toftner@icd.teradyne.com (Liv Toftner)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Humane Society Blues
Date: 13 Nov 92 14:10:58 GMT
Reply-To: toftner@icd.teradyne.com
Organization: Teradyne, Inc. Boston MA

I would say your Humane Society takes things to 
extremes.  When I adopted Pounce, I had to prove
that I either owned my home or had permission from
the landlord to keep a cat, and I had to agree to have
him neutered.  Even if you aren't planning to adopt, 
my Humane Society allows you to visit the animal.  What
a dangerous thing for someone like me.

Liv,  Pounce and Lion
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jeremy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (jeremy.l.radosh)
Subject: Re: help! how do I keep this cat out of my closet
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: bl
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 20:31:42 GMT

In article <1dh5htINNa3a@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. Nelson) writes:
>
>   Recently Spanky has gotten to the stage of "isn't it fun to
>get into the closet and dangle from mommy's velvet/silk/anything
>expensive dress?" The closet is a typical double sliding door
>type. I can't find a way to keep him from opening it! There
>isn't anywhere else in this matchbox (apartment) to keep those
>important items, either. 
>
>   At six and a half months he is entering the most playful
>adolescent stage, so this isn't going to stop anytime soon,
>either. And I absolutely refuse to declaw him. Any ideas
>about how to keep the closet inaccessible? 

Try the standard "burglar-proofing" method used for sliding patio doors.  The
method is this: get a broomstick (or other wood/metal rod-like device), cut
it to fit between the edge of the sliding door and the opposite frame of
the closet entrance.  This way, the cat cannot slide the door open without
first removing the blockage.  He might figure this out, but it is hard to
remove without opposable thumbs.

Good luck

Jeremy

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: maxfield@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joan C. Maxfield)
Subject: Re: My roommate broke my kitten's leg!!!!
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:45:46 GMT

GET RID OF THAT HIDDEOUS ROOM MATE!
	I told all of my boyfriends that my cats have been with me
longer and therefore come first, ALWAYS!  Some loved my cats almost as
much as I do and others found themselves staring at a slamming door
after I caught them being abusive.  One primate in particular thought
it was funny to chase Amos around the house with the squirt bottle,
but only when I wasn't home or wasn't looking.  The bottle was used
ONLY by me and ONLY to punish. I tried to explain to him why it wasn't
a nice thing to do but it fell on deaf ears.  Amos hated him.  It soon
went from squirting Amos to tossing Amos to throwing Amos.  Needless
to say, after catching him after he promised to leave the cats alone,
he was never invited back.  Even though he said he would stop and he
understood why it was wrong, he was just one of those people that for
some reason don't like animals or don't care.  I don't think he will
ever stop.  
	Now, mind you, this was a neanderthal I was involved with, if
it had been a roomate or even an aquaintaince he would have been
packing alot sooner.  I started letting Amos and Angelica pick my
boyfriends and they've done a good job.  They picked Daniel, my
fiance, a good choice all around, and before him a guy that was
immature and bi polar but one hell of a cat lover.  This guy would
come to my house to see Angelica, not me.  When we broke up he was
upset that he wouldn't see Gella anymore!
	Anyway, I say, make her pay the bills and then send her
packing.  You can't always be around to watch your kitten and lord
knows what could happen when you're gone!

Joan

-- 
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DISCLAIMER:  I don't speak for the University, but they often speak for me!
From: ryba@ll.mit.edu (Marty Ryba)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: SHRINKING CAT FOOD CANS!
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:21:29 GMT
Reply-To: ryba@ll.mit.edu (Marty Ryba)
Organization: Group 101, MIT Lincoln Lab.
Originator: ryba@ll.mit.edu (Marty Ryba)


In article <1992Nov12.144850.15355@evolving.com>, judy@evolving.com (Judy Bettinger) writes:
|> Other stuff that's been shrinking: "pounds" of bacon (actually 12 oz.), 
|> tuna cans, cereal, detergent. I wonder what the inflation rate would be if it
|> were recalculated using price per pound.

   It is, but that makes the practice no less sleazy.  So far, I haven't
seen any changes in the size of my SD dry food bags (25 lbs.) or cat litter
bags (25 lbs.) - though I think maybe the Iams bags weren't 25...anyone
remember correctly?  Of course, unit pricing in the grocery store helps,
but not when they price one brand by the pound and the next by the
half-peck :-)

-- 
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Group 101 - Air Defense Techniques |
MIT Lincoln Laboratory             |  Too young to be cynical,
ryba@ll.mit.edu                    |		too old to be optimistic.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: cldavies@nyx.cs.du.edu (cindy davies)
Subject: Re: Welcome to the First Cat (Socks)
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 11:21:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.235741.22099@ncar.ucar.edu> vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer) writes:
>In article <2620@cronos.metaphor.com> pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens) writes:
>>
>>A 21 can salute to the soon-to-be-resident cat in the White House,
>>Socks!  When (if ever) was the last time there was a cat in the
>>White House?
>
>The Carters had a White House Cat, so the last one left in 1980.
>

What is it with democrats and cats?  Is this just a coincidence? Inquiring
minds and all that...

--

TNSTAAFD -- There's No Such Thing As A Free Dog.

cldavies@silver.sdsmt.edu        cldavies@nyx.cs.du.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: vboynton@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Virginia R Boynton)
Subject: Re: Bubbles likes to eat my hair. Help!!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 20:39:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.191252.28170@math.ucla.edu> ramirez@julia.math.ucla.edu (A
lice Ramirez) writes:
>My wonderful, delightful fluffy brown tabby, Bubbles, has developed
>a fairly annoying passion of late...that of trying to eat my hair.
>It usually occurs after I have just washed it.  I will come to bed,
>damp haired, to read and relax afvter my evening bath only to have this
>FOOL coming up behind me and start to lick and chew and tug on my hair.


Since it seems to happen soon after your bath, perhaps it has something to do 
with your shampoo?  Have you tried changing shampoos -- perhaps one with no 
scent -- to see if that affects her behavior?

Good luck -- let us know how it turns out.

Ginny
From: sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu (Maven o'Mirth)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: WHAT TO NAME A WHITE MALE KITTEN
Date: 7 Nov 92 02:52:33 GMT
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

In article <wall-051192173511@elvis.swarthmore.edu> wall@cc.swarthmore.edu (Matthew Wall) writes:
>
>How about...
>
>Cocaine
[lots of good suggestions deleted]
>
>gotta go now...
>
>- matt

Reminds me of an albino cat my friend once had named Cocaine.  Lived up to
his name...at the age of 3 years he would still, for no apparent reason,
suddenly attack anything in his reach and rend it to shreds.

Funny part is, on catnip he was the sweetest, calmest cat you'd ever want
to meet. 

My theory on cat names: a cat will tell you his or her name.  You simply
must listen very intently when he or she is looking at you with that
eyes-squeezed-half-closed look, and you will hear.

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 . *  . *~*}    (& Hemingway & Clio)    | of depravity and bad manners! Time
 *    . *~*}    Medici in the studio in | for action!! We'll stop it cold!!!
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From: sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu (   Kate   )
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re:  Other Monsters
Date: 14 Nov 92 01:58:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Seattle University

In article <1992Nov13.204238.22322@Armstrong.EDU> lois@Armstrong.EDU (Lois A. Houston) writes:
>
>Another monster to watch out for is the Carpet Monster.  Fortunately
>for my husband and me, Miss Kitty regularly checks our carpets for the
>dreaded beasts.  While we're at work (so we won't get hurt in the ensuing
>battle, I'm sure) she bravely pushes the rugs into a pile and ferociously
>attacks the Carpet Monster.  Sometimes, the Carpet Monster gets the
>upper hand and it becomes necessary to get a running start and slide the
>rug and the carpet monster across the floor and into the wall, causing
>the Carpet Monster to fade into oblivion from the impact with the wall.

Ah!  I had always wondered what it was with my rugs.  I'm certainly glad
Hemingway and Clio are smarter than me when it comes to Carpet Monsters--
how did I survive before they came along to protect me?  I have often
witnessed the two of them mercilessly bludgeoning the rug against the
wall, and have often come home to it shoved up against the door, evidently
to prevent me from even *entering* the same apartment with such a nasty.

Clio also battled the evil Gurgling Toilet Monster today, and got very wet
as a result. :)

Which reminds me that last night Clio and Hemingway (I assume both of
them, though I was not witness) bravely captured and drowned the plug in
my bathtub.  Came upstairs from a friend's apartment to the sound of
running water, checked the bathroom, and found two or three toys, shampoo
bottles, and washcloth (that's a lot of corpses in a half an hour!)
floating in the near-full bathtub.  Near as I can tell, the initial
objective was to trap the nasty plug (a favorite toy) in the drain where
it could not get out of its own volition and roll around menacingly,
making a funny noise.  Next step to insure that it stayed there was to
turn on the water (old-fashioned bar handle plumbing, one for hot and one
for cold) and drown it.  

How many people's cats are considerate enough to save their owners from
unrecognized danger *and* draw them a hot bath, all in one evening?  I
feel blessed. ;-)

>
>Lois, Miss Kitty, Murphy Cat and THEM (the husband and dogs) :-)

ciao,
--
       Sheryl Stover  %  If you ask me what I have come to do in the world,
  & Hemingway & Clio  %  I who am an artist, I will reply: "I am here to
sstover@seattleu.edu  %  live aloud."                    -Emile Zola


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: farland@outland.b24a.ingr.com (Theresa McFarland)
Subject: Re: Horror in the night...(Original Monster Post)
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:03:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov06.182936.30422@watson.ibm.com> baskin@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com (Brenda Baskin) writes:
>Here it is by popular demand. This is one of the best stories I
>have ever read.  Happy reading!!
>
>
>In <Ch_=Rp#@engin.umich.edu> ault@engin.umich.edu (Matthew Ault) writes:
>>The horror...
>>
>>They warned us, but we didn't listen.  They pleaded with us, but we
>>paid no heed.  And last night my wife and I came within a hair's
>>bredth of disaster.  Were it not for our kittens...
>>
When I first read this post I laughed so much.

Little did I know...

I had a similar demon...


The PAPER TOWEL MONSTER !!!!!!!!

I awoke Saturday morning to find that kitten Jeeves (now well over 11 pounds!)
had brought himself to vanquish the PAPER TOWEL MONSTER.

Paper Towel guts were everywhere.

Shadow-cat looked at me as if to say "I tried to tell you years ago - but
he was braver than I."

I never thought it would happen to me.  At least I'm safe now!

And some people say that cats aren't good protection!

Theresa
Who would have thought reading and writing could pay off? - H. Simpson
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: thiessen@emr1.emr.ca (Tracy Thiessen)
Subject: Re: Spooky things
Organization: Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:47:12 GMT

In article <Bx7s0B.Iq9@encore.com> dmillard@encore.com (Debbie Millard) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.214515.13848@worldbank.org> aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org> writes:
>>In article <1992Nov4.163605.25774@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
>>24641-kemmerling, gck@hector.uucp writes:
>>>My cat turns into a blob of fur.  Lays down and will not move with a
>>leash
>>>and collar on.  
>>
>>
>>Never had much luck taking tigger for a walk.  Ended up more like
>>a "drag"...looked back, he was on his back sliding down the edge of
>>the sidewalk (in the grass) with a totally DISGUSTED look on
>>his face.  Now whenever he sees that harness, *POOF*, gone under
>>the bed for hours....
>>

COMRADES!! There should be a support group for people like us.

After witnessing the charming scene of a lovely young girl walking
her lovely young cat - on a leash -- on the wharf in front of
a busy downtown bistro, I vowed then and there that I would
teach young Doug Kitty to do the same.  How convenient! How
amusing!  What a boon for an otherwise indoor cat!

My strategy involved letting Doug go about his daily household
business with the collar and leash attached.  This lasted about
10 seconds when it became clear he was intent on strangling himself. Some
time later I took him down to the beach, wide open spaces and all that,
and plopped him down.  He froze, and then assumed various bodily
contortions, indicating to passerby that I'd just fed him Javex.
Carried him back to the car.

Incensed, I decided the problem might be with the equipment.
Laid down another $10 for a harnass. Got him into thhe
harnass, and tied it to some clothes line, and decided to
let him rip in the backyard.  He stumbled and tripped to the
length of the line, and headed toward the neighbour's lawn.
(We're new on the block, right?) When he could go no further,
he flung his furry body down in the dirt and froze. Neighbours
loved it. After about five minutes and no movement on his part,
I brought him back into the house, filthy, where he would
crash out for two hours on the dining room table.

I figure we're the poster couple for unsuccessful leash
training.  Any advice?


I'd like to hear a success story 






>





>


>





>

>




>
>Debbie & her motley crew


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: berthiau@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Andre Berthiaume)
Subject: Re: My roommate broke my kitten's leg!!!!
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:59:42 GMT

ARGH!!!!  My first gut reaction would be to get rid of the roommate!

But in all fairness, talk to her and just let her know that you won't 
tolerate this sort of behavior to your kitten.  I mean GOODNESS!!!!
The kitten is so TINY!!!  What sort of BRUTE would do such a thing???
I myself didn't realize just how fragile a kitten seems til I went to 
a pet store recently and saw some gorgeous Persian kittens and petting
them I can just feel how fragile their bone structure is, and these 
tykes were about 8 weeks old too.

You even said it yourself, that this isn't the first time such abuse
has occurred.  I say get her out if you can't reason with her into 
becoming more humane!  Heck! I'd report her!

Quite huffed and puffed about it,

Eva


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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: other monsters....
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A71F07949F1F2631@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 5 Nov 92 22:17:08 GMT
Organization: The World Bank
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:18:45 GMT

In article <Qey4Iy_00iV0E6O4wl@andrew.cmu.edu> Anna Matyas,
am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu writes:
>She seems very annoyed by the tv remote control, too.  I don't think
she's
>really afraid of it but if she's sitting across the room from me when I
>start flipping through channels, she gets this annoyed look (sort of a
>side-long glance at me), turns her body slightly around so she isn't
>facing me anymore, and lets out a long "whirl" sound.



That reminds of an episode a few years ago with Chisaii (RIP)...
Late one night we heard voices in the living room..
I grabbed a baseball bat I had in the bedroom closet and sneaked
into the living room expecting to find burglars which I would
have to fend off with my bat.

...When I slowly peaked around the corner, I saw Chisaii sitting
on the remote, with the wildest look on his face staring at the
TV as it madly flipped through the channels all the while getting
louder...and louder and LOUDER.

I laughed so hard, I nearly wet my pants...

Don't think the cat ever was quite _right_ after that...



-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
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