HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: berthiau@iro.umontreal.ca (Eva Chan)
Subject: Re: recovering.
Reply-To: bunny@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Eva Chan)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:47:23 GMT

tjm@hrt213.brooks.af.mil (Tim Miller) writes:

>	I *still* don't understand this.  Bunny can attest that through
>the last 2 years at BU I spent *most* of my time outside classes online
>(the remainder was spent at work or watching ST:TNG) -- and I still
>averaged a 3.95 in major, 3.83 overall...

>	I guess people have to master the art of doing several things at
>once.  I used to sit with 2 active terms (this was before the
>installation of such niceties as Xterms), doing homework and IRCing
>simultaneously... or I'd do some reading, too; or maybe write a paper...

>-- Cerebus <tjm@hrt213.brooks.af.mil>
>"Unrepentant and unembarrassed."
> 

Well, not meaning to rag on it, but Tim, you have to remember that I 
was in engineering and you in CS.  *shrug*  That may or may not have 
been the difference.  I had quite a bit of work that did not require
me to sit in front of a terminal.  Ergo, the terminal ended up more 
as a distraction to my work.  Sure you had papers to do too, but you
did it on Unix.  I did mine on a wordprocessor at home (but then I 
really didn't have that many papers to write).

Oh well... Take this for all it's worth.

- bunny

-- 
= Eva Chan 		| Never lose my youth, I hope it never ends. =
= bunny@gnu.ai.mit.edu	| Hope I never lose my wallet!               =
= on IRC: bunny 	|	- Bosstones			     =
=			| 					     =
--
	Andre Berthiaume 	 |  "Sometimes you're the windshield,
				 |   Sometimes you're the bug"
    berthiau@iro.umontreal.ca    |			
				 |	       Dire Straits, The Bug
From: svarten@solace.hsh.se (Christer Jansson)
Newsgroups: alt.irc.recovery
Subject: recovering.
Keywords: /quit recovery irc
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:32:56 GMT
Organization: Solace Computer Club, Sundsvall, Sweden

Hi my name is Christer Jansson I am an IRC addict.
At the writing moment I have been free from IRC since the
last minutes of 1992.

Nowdays I have plenty of time to do other things, maybe I
even can finish my studies.

Anyway, I am trying to recover from IRC. I hope my friends
there are ok and that they don't go down with IRC.

-- 
Christer H. Jansson, Solace, Hogskolan Sundsvall/Harnosand, Sweden
E-mail: svarten@solace.hsh.se, lysator.liu.se or abacus.hgs.se
"Elks are the most beautiful animals on this earth"
Newsgroups: alt.irc.recovery
From: svarten@solace.hsh.se (Christer Jansson)
Subject: soon 2 weeks now..
Organization: Solace Computer Club, Sundsvall, Sweden
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:13:05 MET

It has soon been two weeks since I left IRC.. I can only say one
thing, the feeling that I have to log on and see who is on gets
weaker and weaker. It feels good.
Still I have a long time left to get it out of my mind.

Are you spending 4-12 hours / day on IRC? Have you been there more
than a year spending all your time when you could be out with friends
that really are there for you? people who you can talk to, look at.
To hear a voice instead of typing.

Come on. Join and type /quit (or what ever your client accepts to terminate)


-- 
Christer H. Jansson, Solace, Hogskolan Sundsvall/Harnosand, Sweden
E-mail: svarten@solace.hsh.se, lysator.liu.se or abacus.hgs.se
"Elks are the most beautiful animals on this earth"
Newsgroups: alt.irc.recovery
From: tjm@hrt213.brooks.af.mil (Tim Miller)
Subject: Re: recovering.
Organization: AL/HRTI, Brooks AFB
	<1993Jan4.232323.22415@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
	<LURU.93Jan5035614@stekt7.oulu.fi> <TOMMI.93Jan6223034@rieska.oulu.fi>
	<1993Jan6.220111.861@solace.hsh.se> <berthiau.726362059@iros1>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:25:56 GMT

On Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:14:19 GMT, berthiau@iro.umontreal.ca (Eva Chan) said:

E> Of course, as someone mentioned, the grades began to slide.  I struggled.
E> I had a hard time trying to pull myself away from the computer and 
E> focusing on my studies.  heck, I even did a take home final while chatting
E> with other folks.

	I *still* don't understand this.  Bunny can attest that through
the last 2 years at BU I spent *most* of my time outside classes online
(the remainder was spent at work or watching ST:TNG) -- and I still
averaged a 3.95 in major, 3.83 overall...

	I guess people have to master the art of doing several things at
once.  I used to sit with 2 active terms (this was before the
installation of such niceties as Xterms), doing homework and IRCing
simultaneously... or I'd do some reading, too; or maybe write a paper...

-- Cerebus <tjm@hrt213.brooks.af.mil>
"Unrepentant and unembarrassed."
 
Newsgroups: alt.irc.recovery
From: berthiau@iro.umontreal.ca (Eva Chan)
Subject: Re: recovering.
Reply-To: bunny@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Eva Chan)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:14:19 GMT


I know what it was like to be an addict.  I used to be one.  Now I am 
just the occasional user.

I remember spending hours on end connected and chatting with Tommi and 
Ari (hi guys!)  I remember greeting them at Christmas and New Years.
The friends made were wonderful!  The chance to communicate to people
half-way around the world was a rush for me.

Of course, as someone mentioned, the grades began to slide.  I struggled.
I had a hard time trying to pull myself away from the computer and 
focusing on my studies.  heck, I even did a take home final while chatting
with other folks.

Now all that is over and done with.  I survived my studies, but not without
taking some damage.  Now the reason that I am on at all is all this time
I have on my hands since the world seems to be in a recession and jobs are 
hard to come by.  I'm caught in that catch-22: no experience? no job, but
how can one get the experience without the job?  You know what I mean?

Alas, IRC serves its purpose both for good and evil (evil in the sense that
it's a vice for some of us, like smoking or something).  I can't say that I 
regretted using IRC, yet I can't say that I am happy to have used it either.

There you have it folks, my $0.02 worth.


- bunny

-- 
= Eva Chan 		| Never lose my youth, I hope it never ends. =
= bunny@gnu.ai.mit.edu	| Hope I never lose my wallet!               =
= on IRC: bunny 	|	- Bosstones			     =
=			| 					     =
--
	Andre Berthiaume 	 |  "Sometimes you're the windshield,
				 |   Sometimes you're the bug"
    berthiau@iro.umontreal.ca    |			
				 |	       Dire Straits, The Bug
Newsgroups: alt.irc.recovery
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: recovering.
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
	<1993Jan4.232323.22415@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
	<LURU.93Jan5035614@stekt7.oulu.fi> <TOMMI.93Jan6223034@rieska.oulu.fi>
	<1993Jan6.220111.861@solace.hsh.se> <berthiau.726362059@iros1>
	<9301071425.AA00733@hrt213.brooks.af.mil>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:59:04 GMT

TM> == Tim Miller <tjm@hrt213.brooks.af.mil>

 TM> 	I *still* don't understand this.  Bunny can attest that through the
 TM> last 2 years at BU I spent *most* of my time outside classes online
 TM> (the remainder was spent at work or watching ST:TNG) -- and I still
 TM> averaged a 3.95 in major, 3.83 overall...

Heck, even some of the time putatively *inside* classes was spent online;
remember CS113?  "Hey, let's go play pinball."

 TM> 	I guess people have to master the art of doing several things at
 TM> once.  I used to sit with 2 active terms (this was before the
 TM> installation of such niceties as Xterms), doing homework and IRCing
 TM> simultaneously... or I'd do some reading, too; or maybe write a
 TM> paper...

Ah, VT-Windows... :)
--
Christopher K. Davis      | ``Usenet seems to run much like the Kif (or,
<ckd@eff.org>   EFF #14   |   for the TV generation, Klingon) high command.
System Administrator, EFF |   Whoever takes action and can be heard wins.''
+1 617 864 0665  [CKD1]   |   --Peter da Silva <peter@ferranti.com>
Newsgroups: alt.irc.recovery
From: svarten@solace.hsh.se (Christer Jansson)
Subject: Re: recovering.
Organization: Solace Computer Club, Sundsvall, Sweden
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:01:11 MET

tommi@rieska.oulu.fi (Tommi Kaikkonen) writes:
>luru@stekt.oulu.fi (Ari Husa) writes:

>> To other addicts: ANY day is a good day to quit wasting one's time.
>> Don't worry if you are seemingly late for your great resolution..

>Yes, I can second that. Quitting IRCing was a bit like just going away
>from it naturally, for me. I've been around IRC ever since it was
>created but lately -- past year -- I have been quite away from it.
>IT's so simple I can't imagine any other way. Lot of thanks belongs to my
>girlfriend and that fact that I begun to do something productive instead
>of IRCing every night and day. Simply pushed and finally let myself
>continue my long time ago stopped studying and working on my life and future.

>Simply do it, you can do it, I did it, everybody can do it!

>Tommi
That sounds nice, haveing a girlfriend might make it easier.. It is nice
to hear that some people get a life after all. I spoiled my studies pretty
bad for one and a half year, maybe it wont get better by quitting IRC. One
thing I do know, I sure get more things done.
So come on people! Show them that you can do it! Quit IRC. Tomorrow might
be too late. Start doing something usefull.. learn something, program read
books or whatever.. just done spend all nights on IRC chatting.. Conversations
in reallife are much more fun.
It has soon been a week for me without IRC. Right now I am wondering if I can
make one more. I hope so..

-- 
Christer H. Jansson, Solace, Hogskolan Sundsvall/Harnosand, Sweden
E-mail: svarten@solace.hsh.se, lysator.liu.se or abacus.hgs.se
"Elks are the most beautiful animals on this earth"
Newsgroups: alt.irc.recovery
From: luru@stekt7.oulu.fi (Ari Husa)
Subject: Re: recovering.
Organization: The Buffalo Club
	<1993Jan4.232323.22415@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:56:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.232323.22415@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) writes:

> Hi, Christer! I wish you luck. Last year 3 of us made a New Year's
> Resolution to quit IRC, so you've picked a great time to start
> quitting.

Congratulations and good luck. Of those three, one lasted a few days,
another a few months and Greg is the only one uf us still going
strong.

But I am not going to give up.

To other addicts: ANY day is a good day to quit wasting one's time.
Don't worry if you are seemingly late for your great resolution..

	Luru
Newsgroups: alt.irc.recovery
From: gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl)
Subject: Re: soon 2 weeks now..
Organization: Department of Astronomy, University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:50:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan13.001305.10011@solace.hsh.se> svarten@solace.hsh.se (Christer Jansson) writes:

>It has soon been two weeks since I left IRC.. I can only say one
>thing, the feeling that I have to log on and see who is on gets
>weaker and weaker. It feels good.

Yes. It feels very good.

A friend complimented me today that she admired how much energy I
spent going out and meeting people. I didn't do much of it while I
used IRC... but now I do.
Newsgroups: alt.irc.recovery
From: tommi@rieska.oulu.fi (Tommi Kaikkonen)
Subject: Re: recovering.
Organization: Taidonkaari 1 E 36, 90570 Oulu, FINLAND
	<1993Jan4.232323.22415@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
	<LURU.93Jan5035614@stekt7.oulu.fi> <TOMMI.93Jan6223034@rieska.oulu.fi>
	<1993Jan6.220111.861@solace.hsh.se> <berthiau.726362059@iros1>
	<9301071425.AA00733@hrt213.brooks.af.mil> <berthiau.726418043@iros1>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:52:35 GMT

Doing many things at once may be a positive thing. Also, doing many
things at once might be very bad. It all just depends on can you master
what you are doing. If you have no difficulties studying and working
it is fine. But for lot of IRC users doing IRC is the most dangerous
hole they can push themself... maybe never getting up. You just watch
the same walls over and over again and the world seems so closed...
in the beginning it was so open and instanous -- free and thrilling.

I say, don't do drugs, don't IRC too much.

IRCing while doing something connected to your work or studies is
very good. But to turn it over: doing some work while IRCing is BAD.

Master your life, control your behaviour. Don't let things go by.
This is your life, do you want to be a vegetable connected to
terminal all the nights and sleep all the days??? Really? Surely NOT!

SO, this message is to all of you who are now thinking of their
"personal problem": Help yourself and the world helps you :-).
If you just give it a chance it will give you a lot in return!

Go out, meet people. Go to lessons, go to work. Get busy. Go shopping.
By an orange and eat it. Feel what real life is and soon you will unlearn
the "automatic behavior to log on IRC every night".

GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU!!

Tommi


Newsgroups: alt.irc.recovery
From: gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl)
Subject: Re: recovering.
Keywords: /quit recovery irc
Organization: Department of Astronomy, University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:23:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.223256.20364@solace.hsh.se> svarten@solace.hsh.se (Christer Jansson) writes:

>Hi my name is Christer Jansson I am an IRC addict.
>At the writing moment I have been free from IRC since the
>last minutes of 1992.

Hi, Christer! I wish you luck. Last year 3 of us made a New Year's
Resolution to quit IRC, so you've picked a great time to start
quitting.
Newsgroups: alt.irc.recovery
From: tommi@rieska.oulu.fi (Tommi Kaikkonen)
Subject: Re: recovering.
Organization: Taidonkaari 1 E 36, 90570 Oulu, FINLAND
	<1993Jan4.232323.22415@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
	<LURU.93Jan5035614@stekt7.oulu.fi>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:30:34 GMT

luru@stekt.oulu.fi (Ari Husa) writes:

> To other addicts: ANY day is a good day to quit wasting one's time.
> Don't worry if you are seemingly late for your great resolution..

Yes, I can second that. Quitting IRCing was a bit like just going away
from it naturally, for me. I've been around IRC ever since it was
created but lately -- past year -- I have been quite away from it.
IT's so simple I can't imagine any other way. Lot of thanks belongs to my
girlfriend and that fact that I begun to do something productive instead
of IRCing every night and day. Simply pushed and finally let myself
continue my long time ago stopped studying and working on my life and future.

Simply do it, you can do it, I did it, everybody can do it!

Tommi

Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: rsvanc00@nx02.mik.uky.edu (Randolph S. Vance)
Subject: IRC reference in "Star Trek: The Next Generation"
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Path: nx02.mik.uky.edu!rsvanc00
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 01:22:21 GMT

For those international folks who might have missed the Scotty
episode of "Star Trek: The Next Generation" a minor spoiler
follows:



Spoiler alert!














When Scotty and Geordi set to work on repairing the Jenolin crashed
on the Dyson's Sphere, Scotty tells Geordi to boost the pressure
on the Impulse Relay Coolant tank. Geordi tells him it's against regulations,
Scotty inquires, "Pressure variants on the IRC tank storage? Forget it,
I wrote it." Just something neat I noticed! :)

Locnar on IRC.

Randolph S. Vance
RSVANC00@mik.uky.edu (NeXT Mail)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: spencer@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Dwight Spencer CSD)
Subject: irc clients
Organization: University of New Brunswick, Fredericton, NB, Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Distribution: global
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:56:21 GMT


	Has anyone have run a irc client from MUSIC running on a VM
machine?  I'm trying to get one, and I've heard rxirc is the client to
use...  
	Any pointers to clients and any other form of help would be
greatly appreciated...

Thanks in advance,


-- 
Dwight Ellis Spencer                
Computing Services Department                           
University of New Brunswick, Fredericton, Canada             
Internet Mail to: <spencer@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca  des@unb.ca  t6197j@unb.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: bfrg9732@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Brian F. Redman)
Subject: Has Bush Gone Mad?
Summary: The Bush Thyroid Gland is Acting Up
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:00:32 GMT
Keywords: treachery trickery deceit deception


Has Bush gone mad?

Is it just me, or does it seem that Bush is desperate to get a 
good war going somewhere, *anywhere*, in his last two weeks of 
power? Is it just me, or do you perhaps also feel quite uneasy 
knowing that Bush may want to go out with a bang?

Just now I have heard that this most war-like of recent 
presidents has drawn a line in the sand of Iraq and issued an 
ultimatum to Saddam Hussein. Hey George, can't it wait two weeks? 
What's the hurry?

Is it just my own perception, or does it seem to you that the 
psyche of this current president is perhaps a bit more fragile 
than average?

It seems possible to me that Bush is compensating for feelings of 
rejection caused by the results of the November election. Recall 
that it was rumored that he was quite depressed by the results.

Think of the Bush mind down in the dumps. His wife, "Babs," comes 
in to comfort him. One look at her and he gets more depressed.

After dreary days of depression in November, Bush's mind can't 
take it and he drifts back in memory to his glory days during the 
Gulf War. "Ahh... 90% approval!" he recalls.

"Why not bring back the 'high' of those days, when I was so 
popular?" he wonders. "Another war and I could leave office with 
more of those cheering crowds that I now so miss!"

So Bush, in fantasy land, wanders from West Point to the Kremlin. 
In these backdrops, the illusion that he is again quite 
popular can be indulged in once more. "They love me!" he is led 
to believe by the canned applause. "It's time to stand tall!"

And thus, he frantically searches for a pretext, *any pretext*, 
to go to war somewhere, *anywhere*.

14 days left, George. Let's hope somebody's keeping an eye on 
you.


Brian Redman
(bfrg9732@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu)
"Ah yes, Armageddon. I remember it well."
From: ddc1@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.activism.d
Subject: Little Known Fact About Somalia
Date: 10 Jan 93 21:00:03 GMT
Followup-To: alt.activism
Organization: University of Scranton


	The major natural resouce of Somalia is.....



	URANIUM


	And it's a humanitarian mission....YEAH RIGHT!!!!



	(found in 1990 CIA BOOK OF THE WORLD)
 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dave D. Cawley		   |	Where a social revolution is pending and,
University Of Scranton	   |	for whatever reason, is not accomplished,
ddc1@jaguar.uofs.edu	   |	reaction is the alternative.
ddc1@SCRANTON		   |				-Daniel De Leon
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: froh@boi.hp.com (Robert Frohwerk)
Subject: Re: Has Bush Gone Mad?
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:32:56 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Perhaps,...
	just another Halcyon moment.

Last month I heard the President was still taking that drug.

==Bob

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Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: thomson%jensen.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Rich Thomson)
Subject: Re: "New Right" Libertarians?
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:47:54 MST
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Utah, SLC, UT

In article <1993Jan11.151525.4408@starbase.trincoll.edu>
    nmiller@starbase.trincoll.edu (norman miller) writes:
>[Lee Crocke advocates] freeing human beings from their dependence on
>one another

In article <1993Jan11.173133.5339@hellgate.utah.edu>
	thomson%jensen.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Rich Thomson) writes:
>Please quote me the passage where Mr. Crocke asserted this?

In article <1993Jan12.020953.5136@starbase.trincoll.edu>
	nmiller@starbase.trincoll.edu (norman miller) writes:
>Sorry, I haven't got the original.

If you can't back up your assertions with fact (especially when
referring to the intentions of another poster), then I insist that
you withdraw them.

>The most critical is the one libertarians least
>want to talk about: the one between adults and immature children.

Every libertarian I know wants parents to have the power to decide
over matters regarding their children.  You're ducking the question.
You've erected this straw man that libertarians somehow want to live
in a world devoid of interdependency between individuals.

Until you can show that this idea is indeed put forth by libertarians,
and specifically Mr. Crocke, I don't think the topic is served by tearing
down yet another straw man that you want to erect.

						-- Rich
-- 
		    Don't blame me; I voted Libertarian
Internet: thomson@asylum.cs.utah.edu		Rich Thomson
IRC: _Rich_					PEXt Programmer
From: mcgredo@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Don McGregor)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: Has Bush Gone Mad?
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:30:27 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.
NNTP-Posting-Host: prism.cs.orst.edu

In article <1ihqn8INNsrj@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aj336@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Pat Weber) writes:
>
>My guess is that G. Bush wants to get the US into such as mess
>that Clinton will never be able to recover. Somalia/Iraq will
>be Clinton's Vietnam and in four years the Republicans will say
>"I told you that the Dem's can't doit - elect us!" or

Clinton was rehtorically more hawkish than Bush for much of the
campaign, and supports the latest ultimatum against Iraq.
Clinton, you will recall, was highly critical of Bush for not
"doing something" about Bosnia.

Bush handles the use of military force rather well.  He generally
allows the troops enough latitude to do what they need, and does
not allow the UN to complicate matters needlessly.  I can see
Clinton putting the US troops in Somalia under some stupid and
unworkable UN committee meeting in being and generally screwing 
the pooch.

If Clinton fucks up with the military anywhere, he'll have only
himself to blame.  Bush is leaving him nothing that can't be
handled.

-- 
Don McGregor             | "Adventure without risk is Disneyland."
mcgredo@prism.cs.orst.edu|       --Douglas Coupland
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: cmort@NCoast.ORG (Christopher Morton)
Subject: Re: New Book Exposes ADL as Front for Dope Lobby
Reply-To: cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton)
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:13:49 GMT
Followup-To: alt.activism

As quoted from <1993Jan6.140316.11321@starbase.trincoll.edu> by nmiller@starbase.trincoll.edu (norman miller):

> I'm also (as a closet royalist) pleased to see that H.M.
> Elizabeth II is no longer the sole controller of the drug
> trade.
> 
I just don't know how you can say this!   Isn't this just another blow to
the prestige of the royal family?  All of these scandals and now they lose
their monopoly over the drug trade.

They have to do something to reassert their position.  Perhaps invading Idaho
with Hungarian mercenaries.

Got to go.  I've got a "Black (multinational) Helicopter"(tm) to catch....


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