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From: krash@syncline.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Richard Krasner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: NeXT to Word5.0a EPS
Keywords: NeXT Word EPS
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:12:10 GMT
Reply-To: krash@syncline.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Richard Krasner)
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

I use a NeXT at work and have several applications that create EPS files.   
I've tried downloading an EPS file and then opening it in Word5.0a.  The  
file downloads sucessfully and Word appears to open it, but all I get at  
the end is the header.  The file size is large - indicating that there  
should be more their, but when I print, only the header prints.  The  
header states what application created the EPS file (e.g. NXYPlot on the  
NeXT) but that is all that there is.  Is there some utility out there that  
will convert from one computer platform EPS format to the Mac EPS format?
I thought that EPS was universal.  Word says it is reading in the file as  
EPS, but I can not view it in Word, nor will it print to the Personal  
LaserWriter.

Thanks, Krash!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: owen@lloyd.Camex.COM (Owen Hartnett)
Subject: Re: Suppose Apple does charge for System 7.1...
Organization: Camex Inc., Boston MA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:53:25 EDT

In article <greg-280992204252@kip-50.apple.com> greg@applelink.apple.com (Greg Marriott) writes:
>In article <1992Sep25.124737.3807@lloyd.Camex.COM>, owen@lloyd.Camex.COM
>(Owen Hartnett) wrote:
>>[...] 
>> Mac users may not want to spend the bucks to upgrade.
>> 
>
>Well, this message has a very narrow view of the market opportunities
>available in the world.  Yes, a lot of Mac users have already worked out
>a solution in their language.  But, there are lots of people out there
>who aren't currently using Macs because there has been no solution for
>them until 7.1.
>

So, if I can paraphrase (I hope correctly) what you're saying is that
the 7.1 upgrade is aimed at people who don't already use Macintoshes.
That 7.1 will cause more people to see Macintoshes as a solution to
their situations and increase the market size of Macintoshes.

But most of these people won't buy the upgrade - the System will come with their
Mac when they buy it.

>> So from what I can see, what your upgrade buys you is not a hell
>> of a lot of functional value over what 7.0 gives you.
>
>True, unless you are trying solve problems in a multi-lingual
>environment.  If you don't see any value in upgrading, then don't.
>
Which is my point - if there is no perceived value in upgrading, many
people will not upgrade (other than those of us who must have the
latest and greatest).  Particularly with the deterrent of an upgrade
price. Microsoft has already had a sales debacle with
Windows 3.1 upgrades - Egghead got stuck with a whole lot of them.
Should Apple risk a similar situation at this time?  Not to mention
possible press coverage, example "System 7.1, Don't bother to upgrade"
headlines are all too possible. I'm not the only one good at narrow
views of the marketplace - the trade press is even better than me.

>And about this "market opportunities" thing...  About 50% of Apple's
>revenues are generated in non-U.S. markets.  With 7.1 "leveling the
>playing field", we can get back to concentrating on new features and
>performance enhancements that will benefit all Mac users (instead
>of having to satisfy one half of the market and not the other, over
>and over again).

This is all the more reason *not* to charge for the upgrade this time
around.  Right now, developers have to support basically two systems:
6.0.x and 7.0.x. By charging for 7.1, it will slow public acceptance
of same, require developers, Apple, and Macintosh administrators to
support *three* system software releases.  Look at the horrible mess the
DOS world is in with a host of DOS versions floating around.

As I said previously, I think Apple has a right to charge whatever Apple
sees fit for upgrades, but I think this is a bad time to make this 
transition.

-Owen "Still !John Sculley" Hartnett

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: zaphod@bluemoon.rn.com (Peter Bierman)
Subject: Re: System 7 and background printing...IW series?
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 14:58:53 EDT

asunta@convex.csc.FI (Miika Asunta) writes:

> I just found a printout of a system 7 introduction that was released
> in the net a couple of years ago. Some promises have become reality,
> but where is background printing with all printers????
> 
> In fact the new print architecture is not even documented in IM VI.
> 
> Whatta happened?

Well, rumor has it that it will be a system 7.1 thing; but I'm not sure.


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From: ldh@svl.cdc.com (Lawrence D. Hare)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Backups --- How to make them ?
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:19:57 GMT
Organization: Control Data Systems
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-XXMessage-ID: <A6EDD02157010456@ethelred.svl.cdc.com>
X-XXDate: Tue, 29 Sep 92 09:19:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.134737.2910@eff.org> Howard Shubs, hshubs@eff.org
writes:
>I can't speak for Retrospect, never having used it.  However, I've

I used DiskFit for years and then moved to Retrospect when I convinced my
company to buy an Exabyte helical tape drive and stuff it in a box so we
could transport the thing from Mac to Mac. Retrospect is incredible, the
best backup product I have used, and I have been doing backups since my
first, blue wired, CP/M CD 110 system. For a few bucks, I get a cute
little tape with my entire system on it and I have had to do a full
restore a number of times - NEVER the slightest problem with either
DiskFit or Retrospect.

I backup over 200 Megs in 20 mins or so. I typically keep a couple of
full tapes and a couple of incrementals, these I make alternatively every
few weeks, couple of tapes each time. I keep one at home. Time for
incrementals is negligable.

Between Diskfit and Retrospect you have the problem solved. In my opinion
it is hard to beat either.
--
Lawrence D. Hare
Organization: Senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:56:27 -0400 
From: Christopher Bruce Kidwell <ck31+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Sys7 filesharing - who's connected?

>Is there a way for a program running under System 7 with filesharing
>to find out who is connected?  The file sharing monitor doesn't say
>enough -- i.e., it doesn't say what time a person connected, or how
>long a connection has been idle, or what zone/node the person is
>connected from.  This is especially important for "guest" logins.

Though I haven't used it, from what I've read NokNok will do just that.
It's currently compatible with System 7 file sharing.  Anyone know
when the Appleshare 3.0 version is coming out?

Chris Kidwell
ck31@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jason@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Jason Rosenberg)
Subject: Licensed user of 7.0?
Originator: jason@lanai.cs.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 07:58:23 GMT

If system 7.1 will only be $39, then I won't sweat it.....

But, as for getting a reduced price upgrade if you are a registered owner
of system 7.0:  Are you registered if you bought a new mac which came with
system 7.0 and tuneUp 1.1?

Jason

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From: bryanh@stout.gvg.tek.com (Bryan Hilterbrand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: What is PowerOrgasm?
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:58:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: gold.5370
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <1992Sep30.160526.9428@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> landis@ltpsun.gsfc.nasa.gov (David Landis) writes:
>I just found a copy of the System 7 extension PowerOrgasm. But when I
>decompressed it, there was no documentation file. Can anyone tell me
>what this thing is supposed to do?

I think it only works on PowerBooks (and maybe the Portable).

When the power cord is inserted into the PowerBook, the PowerBook plays
an excerpt of the fake orgasm scene from _When_Harry_Met_Sally_.  It's
kind of cute as long as you have a dirty mind.  Not recommended to have
hanging around to go off in front of prudish SO's, mothers, etc..

Bryan


Bryan Hilterbrand      bryanh@stout.GVG.TEK.COM  |     /\  /\
Grass Valley Group, Production Systems Division  |  __/ G\/G \__
From: Ralph.Martin@cm.cf.ac.uk (Ralph Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: MacTCP 1.1.1 Upgrade costs $100 ????????
Date: 30 Sep 92 07:09:59 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6EF1155C4012AC7@ralph.cm.cf.ac.uk>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 30 Sep 92 08:09:57 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11

Well, if you have a site licence for MacTCP like we do, the upgrades seem
to be sent out automatically, free. At least this happened for MacTCP 1.1.
Ralph
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: pollard@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Tom Pollard)
Subject: Re: AutoDoubler 2.0
Organization: Center for Biomolecular Simulation
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:15:40 GMT

Igor Livshits <igorl@uiuc.edu> writes:
>has anyone received their upgrade invitation for AutoDoubler 2.0 yet?  I
>thought it was supposed to be out by now...
>

I haven't gotten my notice, but I did order my upgrade this morning, using
Fifth Generation's 800 number (24-hour).  I refer you to ...

> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 0:34:28 EDT
> From: Shaw Bernard Wu <swu@sales.stern.nyu.edu>
> Subject: AutoDoubler 2.0 (c)
> 
> Yes, AD 2.0 is shipping. Call up Fifth Generation Systems at
> 1-800-766-7283 for more information. It costs $19.95 for the upgrade
> and is free for people who purchased after July 15, 1992. There
> is also a DiskDoubler 3.7.7 updater ...


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: 7.0 errors (was: Type 1 error)
From: hammett@sbsu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Tim Hammett)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:52:53 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

howie@cfarer.boeing.com (Howie Modell) writes:
>post a list of the top 5 (ulp top 10?? 8-{ ) "Type 'n' errors"?  It would
>probably do the "rest of us" a world of good!

Here you go:

    dsBusError = 1,                 /*bus error */
    dsAddressErr = 2,               /*address error*/
    dsIllInstErr = 3,               /*illegal instruction error*/
    dsZeroDivErr = 4,               /*zero divide error*/
    dsChkErr = 5,                   /*check trap error*/
    dsOvflowErr = 6,                /*overflow trap error*/
    dsPrivErr = 7,                  /*privilege violation error*/
    dsTraceErr = 8,                 /*trace mode error*/
    dsLineAErr = 9,                 /*line 1010 trap error*/
    dsLineFErr = 10,                /*line 1111 trap error*/
    dsMiscErr = 11,                 /*miscellaneous hardware exception error*/
    dsCoreErr = 12,                 /*unimplemented core routine error*/
    dsIrqErr = 13,                  /*uninstalled interrupt error*/
    dsIOCoreErr = 14,               /*IO Core Error*/
    dsLoadErr = 15,                 /*Segment Loader Error*/
    dsFPErr = 16,                   /*Floating point error*/

Useful? Nope. Very seldom is the error type of any use to you in working
out why a program crashed. Certain types of error numbers can occur for
lots of different reasons (e.g. type 1 (bus) errors can be caused by all
sorts of bugs/problems). Worse still, the error number you get is sometimes
a spurious one, caused by a program that has gone off executing bits of
memory it shouldn't have, which eventually ends up in the system error
routine with a more or less random error number.

The "Program quit because an error of type x occurred" dialog really doesn't
tell you anything more useful than that the program crashed.

--
Tim Hammett, Botany Dept, Auckland University, New Zealand.
t.hammett@aukuni.ac.nz   Phone: +64-9-373-7599 x8365    FAX: +64-9-373-7416
From: collet@scripps.edu (Thomas Collet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: System 7.0.1 on a MacPlus ???
Date: 26 Sep 92 18:22:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: riscsm.1992Sep26.182240.14468
Organization: The Scripps Research Institute, La Jolla, California, USA

I am sure this must have been discussed before, but 
how do you install system 7.0.1 on a MacPlus that only
has an 800k drive? All distribution disks that I have seen
are 1.4 Mb. Please send email; if there is enough interest,
I will summarize for the net.
Thanks,

Thomas     COLLET@SCRIPPS.EDU
From: chapman@centerline.com (Scott Chapman, (Scott Chapman x233))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: SpeedyFinder7 vs. CopyDoubler
Date: 5 Oct 1992 15:52:31 GMT
Organization: CenterLine Software
Distribution: world
Reply-To: chapman@centerline.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: divine.centerline.com

I was playing around coparing CopyDoubler with SpeedyFinder last night,
and discovered that CD was significantly faster than SF. Significantly.
Also, the "smart" copy feature (only copy things which have changed) was
a big plus! Over-all, I am very happy with CopyDoubler.

I still do use SpeedyFinder to give me better color disk icons, perhaps
there is another utility which does *just* that. Hopefully the "cool options"
can be broken out of SF so they can be used independently...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: pejacoby@mmm.serc.3m.com (Paul E. Jacoby)
Subject: Re: 7.1 not free?
Organization: 3M Company
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 17:46:21 GMT

In article <D2150056.eu8k99@erics.infoserv.com> erics@infoserv.com writes:
>
>ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd) writes:
>> Apple made this doofy thing called system 7 tuner.  At least integrate it
>> into the system file, people.
>
>The answers to this one seem obvious to me. With a tuner file that you
>just drop into your extensions folder, you're up and running with the
>new software immediately, without the headache of installing a new version
>of the system. Additionally, from Apple's point of view they can test

Another point to remember when arguing this line is that the System 7
Tuner is NOT even close to the first time that Apple has applied patches
to the System without releasing a whole new set of disks.

* Ever installed some network software and found a new version of
  AppleTalk in your System Folder?

* Ever taken a look at the 'rovr' and 'rov#' resources in the system
  to see just how much of the ROMs are being masked out?

In a nutshell, System 7 Tuner is certainly NOT equivalent to a TSR.
This method of update offers a very quick, easy, and relatively painless
way to correct problems in the System Software.  I welcome System 7.1's
new modular approach.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: cfarmer@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Chuck Farmer)
Subject: Re: MaxAppleZoom Question
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: NCSA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:57:18 GMT

In article <WYATTW.92Sep28131942@loowit.wr.tek.com>,
wyattw@loowit.wr.tek.com (Wyatt Webb;6291592;92-835) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Sep25.181958.22173@riacs.edu> owen@olympus.arc.nasa.gov..arc.nasa.gov (Owen S. Nishioka) writes:
> 
>    If memory serves, MAZ doesn't work anytime there are two video card
>    present.  (Quadra internal (1) + Mac II vid card (1) = 2)  :-)
> 
>    The author justified this as if you can afford two screens, you don't
>    need MAZ.  The real reason may be somewhat different.
> 
I had MAZ working when I second monitor hooked up. I had the "1" monitor
zoomed fine. The other was a full page display and din't need it.

Thanks
Chuck
cfarmer@ncsa.uiuc.edu


Only a fool is sure - Moe Howard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Greg's Buttons (Author's Address?)
From: macdevil@netlink.cts.com (Leonard Cayetano)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 07:04:37 PDT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

bruck@mathj.usc.edu (Ronald Bruck) writes:

> 
> I found another problem with 2.0.  After I rebooted, the font used in
> the menu bar (Chicago) changed!  Instead of the big, fat Chicago we
> love and hate, some thin impostor intruded!
> 
> Now I could understand this if Greg's Buttons conflicted with another
> init; say, Suitcase or ATM.  I have a great many Postscript fonts (yes,
> legally) and I use Suitcase to select a set based on the kind of work
> I happen to be doing.  But Chicago is in the system file, and as I recall
> it can't be removed.  (I think Geneva and Chicago must always be present,
> but I could be wrong.)
> 
> I didn't test it any further, but trashed it at once.  I'll wait for
> 2.1.  BTW, Apple, why don't YOU make some nice 3D button icons?
> 
> --Ron Bruck
> bruck@mtha.usc.edu preferred
> 

Well, if you go open up the CDEV, you will notice an option on changing
the system font to a special form of Helvetica.  Actually, I think it is
quite nice.  It doesn't quite work well with White Knight, but that
is the only program in which there is some sort of conflict.

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From: ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Backups --- How to make them ?
Date: 29 Sep 92 09:52:34 GMT
Organization: Forschungszentrum Juelich

Hi netters,

I need help with some problem making backups. Coming from the PC world I was
surprised by the lack of a backup/restore facility in the Mac OS. I then tried
some third party products by the name of Fastback 2.50 and HFS Backup 3.0t.

I`m running a IIsi using Sys 6.07. HFS Backup 3.0t dies immediately on this
machine requirering a reboot. Fastback 2.50 does nice backups but often is
unable to restore anything, i.e. it doesn`t recognize the backup disks.

At least HFS Backup runs fine on a LC under Sys 7.0.

My Question: Is there a backup programm for the Mac that runs on different
Macintosh models (IIsi and LC would be ok for the moment) and under System 6
and 7? Or is that the price one has to pay for working on individual machines
instead of identical clones?


Thanks in advance, Michael Bode.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: t89djo@tdb.uu.se (David Jonsson)
Subject: AppleShare prep storage of passord
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:41:19 GMT

The password doesnt seem to be stored plain in the AppleShare prep file.

Does anyone know how it is being encrypted? The same way as on Unix?

David
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From: greg@applelink.apple.com (Greg Marriott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Suppose Apple does charge for System 7.1...
Date: 29 Sep 92 03:56:45 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Sep25.124737.3807@lloyd.Camex.COM>, owen@lloyd.Camex.COM
(Owen Hartnett) wrote:
>[...] 
> Mac users may not want to spend the bucks to upgrade.
> 
> What do they get?  World Script - most Mac users have already found
> a way to cope with their Mac in their current language, thank you, and
> there's no immediate need to get this - it doesn't buy you anything
> more than you already have.

Well, this message has a very narrow view of the market opportunities
available in the world.  Yes, a lot of Mac users have already worked out
a solution in their language.  But, there are lots of people out there
who aren't currently using Macs because there has been no solution for
them until 7.1.

> So from what I can see, what your upgrade buys you is not a hell
> of a lot of functional value over what 7.0 gives you.

True, unless you are trying solve problems in a multi-lingual
environment.  If you don't see any value in upgrading, then don't.

And about this "market opportunities" thing...  About 50% of Apple's
revenues are generated in non-U.S. markets.  With 7.1 "leveling the
playing field", we can get back to concentrating on new features and
performance enhancements that will benefit all Mac users (instead
of having to satisfy one half of the market and not the other, over
and over again).

Greg Marriott
Blue Meanie
Apple Computer, Inc.

Disclaimer: My opinions are not necessarily the same as Apple's.
            (can a company even HAVE an opinion?)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: MARK@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (Mark R. Williamson)
Subject: Re: How to unpack Gatekeeper..._bin
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:39:26 GMT

There's a copy in .hqx in the Info-Mac archive, right in your state.
 
Mark R. Williamson, Rice U., Houston TX; MARK@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU or @RICEVM1
From: krash@syncline.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Richard Krasner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: NeXT to Word5.0a EPS
Keywords: NeXT Word EPS
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:12:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: yuma.Sep29.211223.61925
Reply-To: krash@syncline.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Richard Krasner)
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

I use a NeXT at work and have several applications that create EPS files.   
I've tried downloading an EPS file and then opening it in Word5.0a.  The  
file downloads sucessfully and Word appears to open it, but all I get at  
the end is the header.  The file size is large - indicating that there  
should be more their, but when I print, only the header prints.  The  
header states what application created the EPS file (e.g. NXYPlot on the  
NeXT) but that is all that there is.  Is there some utility out there that  
will convert from one computer platform EPS format to the Mac EPS format?
I thought that EPS was universal.  Word says it is reading in the file as  
EPS, but I can not view it in Word, nor will it print to the Personal  
LaserWriter.

Thanks, Krash!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: tjfs@tadtec.uucp (Tim Steele)
Subject: Re: What is PowerOrgasm?
Organization: Tadpole Technology plc
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 05:47:55 GMT

So where on the Internet is it?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Apgar@Apple.com (Gar)
Subject: Re: Who are my guests?
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:01:03 GMT
Organization: Apple
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system

In article <1992Oct5.143911.24808@lut.ac.uk>, k.a.cooper@lut.ac.uk (Keith
Cooper) wrote:
> 
> Is there a way of telling who the guests are on one of my servers?
> A log would be useful, but failing that any info would satisfy my curiosity 

I think it's about time this is FAQ'd... where is that FAQ?
Have not seen it lately...

Nok Nok F/S is the only thing that currently does it for Sys 7 FileSharing.

ShowShare (new from Robert Hess) will do it soon for FS
and maybye AppleShare 3.

And soon there will be Nok Nok A/S for AppleShare 3.

Apgar@Apple.com                   I said it, NOT Apple.