From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: Re: net.hugs?
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 10:14:32 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <64z158_@rpi.edu> petitc@rpi.edu writes:
>  Yes, there is a difference.  However, to some of us, when we get dumped by
>someone we care for, it HURTS.  Apparently, this is not true for you---since
>this is for romantics (people who care deeply for others), it really hurts to
>get dumped---moreso than for non-romantics.

Romance and pain tolerance are two different things.
It still hurts for me to get dumped. You seem to imply that because I don't
post dribble like *hugs* and *kissies* to the net that I don't care deeply
about others? In fact, I see that endless crap that goes get posted to
alt.romance and alt.romance.chat to be shallow and offensive.

>|> Let me give you a word to look up: Reality.
> As for Reality, if it's what I see on TV, I can see why we have such problems.

No- Reality. Like what goes on beyond the glass windows and walls you've built
up. Get up from your terminal and experience it once in a while.

>|> It means that if I have a boo-boo I don't go running for a support group for
>|> a 'group-hug!' It means that I am a big boy now, and I can and do take care
>|> of myself. Of course it doesn't mean I don't like a warm body to snuggle up
>|> to, or a good friend to talk with- who doesn't?
>  No, but you ARE saying that other people mean very little to you, since you
>can't be hurt by them.  Psychological invunerability is only possible if 
>nobody means anything to you, which seems to be the case here, if you insist
>that you can't get hurt.

Nope, wrong again. Saying that I can help myself does not mean that I am a
psychological superman.  I don't know where you made that implication.
I am human, I bleed.

>|> Calling myself 'independent' means that I stand up for my own opinions. My
>|> life isn't going to be over if the other 99,999 people reading this message
>|> don't agree with my point of view. It means that if I don't get >one single
>|> net hug< my life will not fall apart. I will go on.
>|> Will you?
>  Well, as I said before, there are SOME TIMES when we all need hugs.  And,
>apparently, your dates/SO mean nothing to you, so you can't be hurt by them.

You didn't answer the question, and again mis-represented my point of view.
If nobody around here agrees with you, does that mean your life is over?
If somebody hurts you, does it mean your going to go out and die?
I'm saying that I won't. And I'm asking if you will.

And, btw, saying that 'My life isn't going to be over' if nobody agrees with
me is NOT the same as saying 'I don't care about their point of view'. If
I get a million mail messages telling me that they all vehemtly disagree with my
point of view, I'll certainly as hell take that into consideration. If I get 
just 1 mail message telling me they vehemtly disagree with my point of view,
I'll take that into consideration as well. Neither means I'll change my point
of view, but I might, its been known to happen :)

One final note- The world is not a big happy joy filled place. You cannot make
life better by pretending that it is. You want to make the world a better place?
You had best start by looking at and living in the world (called 'reality' by
some people). Sending and recieving *hugs* and *kissies* and *giggles* might
make you feel better. If it does, good for you. I think its insipid.
r.