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From: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 and MIDI -- is anyone doing it?
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:25:25 GMT
Reply-To: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, Ontario, CANADA
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markp@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Mark A. Pitcher) writes:

>       I now use OS/2 with Cakewalk, and it works excellent.
> Much faster than before. I'm going to load up WinCake and Cubase
> later on and try those out. So far, it looks promising.

Is anyone using Sequencer Plus Jr (from Voyetra, for the S/B card)
under OS/2?  I had a heck of a time with it, even under a VDM.  Now
when I want to use it I just boot up into plain old vanilla DOS using
a boot diskette.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: m92mmy@tdb.uu.se (Mattias Myrberg)
Subject: PumaTracker, where ?
Organization: My own place
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 12:37:36 GMT


Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.industrial,rec.music.makers.synth
From: galanter@nyu.edu (Philip Galanter)
Subject: Re: Casey Kasem wrote and boy is he pissed...
Reply-To: galanter@nyu.edu (Philip Galanter)
Organization: New York University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:54:11 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.010523.9776@iscsvax.uni.edu>  
gingeric9178@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

(and quoting the letter from Kasem)
..

|
|Dear Robert:
|   The issue over Negativland U2 isn't censorship.  It's about theft and
|piracy.  Negativland didn't own the written\recorded material it put on  
the
|record--and that's against the law.

..

I don't think the letter could have been clearer...well, it could have  
been clearer without Roberts inserted comments...

As we move into the information age people are going to have to recognize  
that authorship, intellectual property, copyright, etc. are as important  
as the protection of physical property.  Kasem's voice is the heart of his  
product, as U2's music is the heart of their product.

Two observations:

1. I don't doubt that Kasem's letter was the result of some kind of word  
processing form letter, but I think Robert should have gotten permission  
before posting it.  (The law on this, as I understand it, is that Robert  
owns his physical copy of the letter, but Kasem would retain the copyright  
on the text.  It is also common "net-iquette" to ask for permission before  
posting mail publicly).

2. It seems to me that in the Zoo-TV tour U2's use of downlinked "random"  
transmissions for presentation on their projection TV units was also a  
copyright violation.

Phil

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: donn@beta.lanl.gov (Donn R Hines)
Subject: Looking for Roland D-5 patches and librarian 
Organization: /u1/donn/.organization
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:27:11 GMT

I'm looking for ftp sites for a patch librarian and patches for
the Roland D-5. ALso interested in patches for the Kawai K-1.
Any help is appreciated. Send email to hines@paloverde.lanl.gov.
-donn
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk (Nick Rothwell)
X-Sender:  (Unverified)
Subject: Test flare to rec.music.synth
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:13:33 +0000

This is a test flare to rec.music.synth.

. . . . . . . s s s s h h . . . . . . > F O O M ! <

                      Nick Rothwell  |  cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk
   CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance  |  cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music
From: eeltw@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Lloyd Walker)
Subject: Boss DS330 ? what does it sound like?
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 07:37:14 GMT

Dear Musicland,
	I have just come back from Brisbane where I was discussing midi
modules etc with a close friend who has had a lot of experience with
sales of electronic musical instruments.  I've got a Roland 150 keyboard
that I got in 1987 and it has midi and a few (FM clearly) sounds and
(most importantly for me) a feel I've grown used to on a keyboard.  I
was looking to vastly improve the sounds (particularly for more
realistic sounds so sampling or similar) and was toying with the idea of
the OM1/FD or similar or even the EPS-16 or the Peavey DPM series.  The
big minus for me was the keyboards lacked a lot of what I wanted and I
wondered if I would ever use half the features they have.  I play very
much for pleasure though I'm called on every weekend to play in church
and with church bands etc so expansion would be great.
	Well what was suggested to me was that the Boss DS330 (I think)
was pretty new on the block and was basically the Roland Sound Canvas
(with a few less voices) at a much cheaper price tag.  I haven't seen one
but was told the voices are better than the EMT-10.  The display I'm
told isn't great but what was suggested was that I get a midi card for
my IBM and use Musitrax to do the mixing and sequencing which all sounds
pretty logical and flexible to me.  What I want to know before I go down
this path is whether anyone out there has any thoughts on the Boss
expansion modules and their sound quality and usability and if you think
the set up I've proposed looks reasonable for an all rounder.
	Much appreciate your ideas & comments.
	God Bless,  Lloyd.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.industrial,rec.music.makers.synth
From: weitzman@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Adam J. Weitzman)
Subject: Re: Casey Kasem wrote and boy is he pissed...
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:12:08 GMT


Re: the letter from Casey Kasem

I want to know why Mr. Kasem is so concerned about the Island/Warner-Chappell
part of the agreement. It has nothing to do with him. Remember, *he* never
sued. I/W-C has said something to the effect of "this single can be released
again (by whom it is unclear) if Mr. Kasem will allow it." If I/W-C had not
sued, many people would have heard Casey cursing and he would have been forced
to sue them himself to get his voice out of the stream (and it is not entirely
clear that he would have done so). 

The point is, I/W-C will let the single again see the light of day if Casey
says OK. He won't, for obvious reasons. He got the best of both worlds here:
something that embarrassed him was removed from the market, he didn't have
to spend a dime on legal fees to get it done, and now *he* has all the power
over whether it can be released again. Pretty good power play if you asked me.

I think it's fair to say it will never be released again. Although I'm trying
to figure out why they can't strip off Casey's voice from the A-side version
and release that. His voice is not *crucial* to the piece the way it is to
the B-side version, which I would pretty much write off at this point. I know
this is "compromising the art," but if it meant U2 releasing it as a B-side
(w/o Kasem's voice) and making it available (or even letting Negativland 
release it again themselves), I don't see why not. I'll bet Kasem would even 
let them use the "This is American Top 40" samples, as long as someone 
promised that the B-side version would never come out.

What do y'all think? The B-side is great, but the A-side is the real U2
parody, IMHO. I've played it for numerous people who never heard about the
controversy, and they all loved both versions.

Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:19935 rec.music.makers.synth:1250
From: ee154fbk@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (Marco)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Korg M1R, M3R what's the difference???
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:15:50 GMT
Followup-To: poster

What are the main differences between the Korg M1r and the M3R???
Is it just a scaled down version withg less voices but same
synthesis capabilities???

Does the M3R have the cool 'Organ 2' preset that can be found on the
M1???

Thanks


	ee154fbk@sdcc15.ucsd.edu



Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
From: piet@cs.ruu.nl (Piet van Oostrum)
Subject: Re: General MIDI
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 10:04:53 GMT
Reply-To: piet@cs.ruu.nl (Piet van Oostrum)
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Utrecht University, The Netherlands
Followup-To: rec.music.synth

>>>>> rjt2@bnr.co.uk () (RJT) writes:

RJT> There are several of these stored on a mail-driven fileserver in the
RJT> Netherlands - try sending the text "HELP" to  mail-server@cs.ruu.nl

RJT> These are stored in directory /midi/songs.
                                    ^^^^^^^^^^

Make that MIDI/SONGS. You can also ftp to ftp.cs.ruu.nl [131.211.80.17] and
look into pub/MIDI/SONGS.
-- 
Piet van Oostrum <piet@cs.ruu.nl>
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: phammond@cs.tcd.ie (Paul Hammond)
Subject: Re: Opinion on Korg Poly 800
Summary: It's not bad at all
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin (Computer Science)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 12:48:10 GMT

In article <93008.111104K3067E0@ALIJKU11.BITNET> K3067E0@ALIJKU11.BITNET (Stefan Ratschan) writes:
>Does anyone know something about the two following synths:
>
>  Korg Poly 800
>  Roland Juno 60
>
>What would be a reasonable price? Who do they sound? Do they have MIDI?
>What sound generating facilities do they have?
>
>Thank you|

I have a Poly 800 Mk II and it's not a bad old analogue synth at all.
Nice deep sound bass on it and it is still used by Jean-Michel Jarre on
quite a few of his pieces. For those of you who haven't heard of Jarre,
he's a big "New Age" artist this side of the Atlantic. People from
Heuston Texas should know what I mean by big.
I would advise getting the Mk II because it has a digital delay section
which is very useful indeed. Both have full Midi.
I would pay $200-$250 for one, but some people would pay more if it's
the sound that they're looking for.
The sound generation is simple, any sound can be either 1 or 2
oscillators, each of which can be specified at a particular octave with
the usual envelopes for volume and VCF. There's also a modulation
section. The VCF, digital delay and the modulation are used on both (if used)
all oscillators, the volume envelopes are separate for each oscillator.
That's basically it. A good machine to have in a collection. You're not
going to get amazing big heavy sounds, but you will get ones with nice
interesting timbres if you work a while at programming it.

Cheers

Paul
Posted-Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 09:01:21 CST
Received-Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 09:04:22 CST
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 09:01:21 CST
From: "Peter Lehman" <lehman@orion.ssdc.honeywell.com>
To: rec.music.synth
Subject: Request opinions on Roland U-20 keyboard
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Organization: mailEnteringNews at Honeywell SRC


I'm interested in purchasing a used Roland U-20 keyboard and was
wondering if anyone had an opinion on the merit of this box.

I'm looking for high quality stringed insrument and drum sounds.

Can the keyboard be downloaded with new sounds from a mac or pc?

Are there other multi-timbral touch sensitive keyboards I should look at?

Is a used price of $700 - $1000 appropriate or can I find a better deal for
this or another keyboard?

My primary goal is to drive this keyboard from a mac or pc using
a midi software sequencer.


Thanks in advance for your opinions - Peter
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: faciane@huey.met.fsu.edu (Dave Faciane)
Subject: Seeking Beatleg Info
Summary: what's on these CDs
Keywords: goo goo ga goob
Organization: Department of Meteorology
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 20:28:06 GMT

I am looking for a track listing or a recommendation on the following
CDs:

Magical Mystery Demos
Arrive Without Travellin' (reportedly Sweedish '63 from master)
Nothing But Aging

Any information on these discs would be appreciated. Email replies are
fine. 




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From: fr@serenade.EBay.Sun.COM (Fred Rouse_Project_Manager_Sun_Federal_Inc)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: New-commer/collector
Date: 13 Jan 1993 00:02:00 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: fr@serenade.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: serenade.ebay.sun.com

Greetings to all.  I am a new to this net and this specific alias, but have been a life long
Beatle fan and collector.  I am really glad to see that their music does live on.  I am interested
in trading some very interesting Pre and Post Beatle era albums, dolls, 1st edition books, bootlegs, buttons,
and on with anyone who has similar items.  I have spent a great deal of time searching out video clips
and the like and have assembled some interesting "fan" pictures.  If you are interested in trading stories
or collectables... (No money, I'm not in it for $$), please let me know.

Fred (fr@sun.com)
From: bsk@acsu.buffalo.edu (Brian Scott Kazmierczak)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Macca Release Date
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:16:35 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UB


What's the release date for the US (Or Canada) for Macca's new single? I have 
not seen it around (of course, the record stores around here stink for the
most part) yet, but thought it was due early January. Thanks,


B
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: stevedc@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Stephen Carter)
Subject: Re: "Yellow Submarine"/"Hey Bulldog" sequence
Organization: University of Sussex
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 10:45:18 GMT

saki (dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu) wrote:
: In article <1ihptuINNrq@menudo.uh.edu> edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen) writes:
: >Nope, it was an animated segment.  "Hey Bulldog" was present in the version
: >aired on television throughout the 70's, but was never on any theatrical
: >release in the US.  The way I heard the story (this is rumor, so take it as
: >such) is that it was decided to edit the "HB" from the finished film.  However,
: >the prints for Europe had already been made, so it was too late.  The US
: >prints had not been made, so the edit was done, and the film went out.  Thus,
: >when it was time to do the video release, UA went to the "correct" (ie: no
: >"HB") print of the film for the video master.
: 
: This corresponds to the story I'd heard as well, though as I understand
: it, the European/British "Yellow Submarine" film had the "Hey Bulldog"
: sequence only during its extremely initial run, possibly even just the
: London premiere, after which it was removed. Bootleg videos of the
: sequence do exist. I figure we'll have to wait for its restoration
: about as long as we've waited for EMI to correct the stereo version
: of the *song* "YS", which is missing a few overdubs present in the
: mono single. To wit, maybe forever. :-)

Nearly right!

The first printS included Hey Bulldog, and that for several years was
the one I'd see (as often as possible) in cinemas.  In the UK needless
to say.

This very different version including HB and the dialogue between the
Fab Four and Sgt.Pepper's band after they get out of the Blue Glass
bowl (see my .sig:-), is the UK version and was shown on BBC some
years back - I have a copy.

In circa 1969 I met a bloke who claimed to have drawn the Nowhere Man,
and the tale he told me about the ending and the HB was that the US
thought it lacked oomph! at the end, so not only was HB cut out, but
the animators had to get together and do a whole new ending.

Will we ever know?

Stephen Carter, Systems & Operations Manager, Computing Services, 
 University of Sussex, Brighton BN1 9QJ, UK
  JANET        : S.Carter@uk.ac.sussex.central
"Nothing is Beatle Proof!"


Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: dms@krang.vis.citri.edu.au (David Mcgregor SQUIRE)
Subject: WANTED: lyrics to "A Day in the Life.."
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 05:18:27 GMT

See subject. PLease email.

-- 
Squizz
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: jbmorris@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jeff Morris)
Subject: Re: Beatles's Album Sales
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 05:28:40 GMT

Well, some interesting news about this is that as recently as November, 1991,
I believe, the Beatles records were certified platinum by RIAA.  It seems that
Capitol was slow in submitting them!
Abbey Road is 9 times platinum (sold 9 million), White Album is 7, red, blue,
MMT, & Meet The Beatles are all 5, Rubber Soul is 4, Hey Jude & Revolver are
3, Beatles '65 is 2, and 20 Greatest Hits, Yellow Submarine, and Something New
are all single platinum.
Also, McCartney is double.
Strangely, Pepper isn't in these certifications.  What happened to it?  Perhaps
they're holding off a while longer for a really big showing?
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: raindrop@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nathaniel Michael Pearson)
Subject: Re: Music categories
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 22:51:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.193751.23225@math.ucla.edu> dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu (saki) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.212211.29775@seachg.uucp> burke@seachg.UUCP (Michael Burke) writes:
>>In article <C0D0x9.6yM@world.std.com> awp@world.std.com (Alan W Pollack) writes:
>>>[Re: "I've Just Seen A Face"]:>
>>I always thought that this was their first Bluegrass tune.
>
>What was their second? :-)
>--
>"Here's the first big chart-busting bombshell of '63!!!! The Beatles
>have made *THE* RECORD OF THE YEAR!"
>------------------------------------
>saki (dmac@math.ucla.edu)-----------

	Maybe stuff made circa Yellow Submarine...of course, this 
	was strictly Blueglass...

				Nat Pearson
				raindrop@leland.stanford.edu
From: cpeters@cse.unl.edu (Corey Peters)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Macca on MTV?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 17:42:41 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cse.unl.edu

Just a quick question:  I remember something being said about Macca 
appearing on MTV for either an UpClose show or Unplugged II show.  I
also remember it being close to the start of the new year.  However,
I forgot the date.  If I haven't already missed it, could someone
please e-mail the date to me...Thanks.

Corey Peters
cpeters@cse.unl.edu
--
Corey L. Peters			cpeters@cse.unl.edu	
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles,rec.music.info
From: stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve Portigal)
Subject: MAILINGLIST: Rolling Stones
Followup-To: rec.music.beatles
Originator: recmusic@cygnus
Reply-To: stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 10:05:54 GMT

   The Rolling Stones Mailing List -- Undercover

DO NOT MAIL REQUESTS TO THE LIST!

UNDERCOVER@SNOWHITE.CIS.UOGUELPH.CA is an unmoderated mailing list for the
discussion of the Rolling Stones. Discussion topics may include: bootleg
trading, how-to guitar playing advice, information about recent books
such as Wyman's Stone Alone and others, perspectives on recent solo
albums by Watts, Richards and Wood and the upcoming album by Jagger.
(and the rarely released "Stuff" by Wyman).

A tape tree has just been announced which should help newcomers get ahold
of some classic shows.

To be added to (or removed from) the list: 
send mail to undercover-request@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca.  Note that this
is a human (me) so requests like SUB LIST JOHN@TOADY are kind of annoying.
Please include your email address in the message. If you don't get any
messages, please get back in touch because I will drop bouncing addresses
from the list.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: mcodogno@nyx.cs.du.edu (Maurizio Codogno)
Subject: Macca uninspired?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 10:58:31 GMT


an Italian newspaper said that Hope of Deliverance remembers 
Leaving on a Jet Plane in the Peter Paul & Mary version, and 
Kicked Around No More remembers Cream's Presence of the Lord (and also
a song from Lucio Battisti, an Italian singer. I don't know how it
could be, as the two old songs are quite different. Unfortunately I
did not hear the minicd yet).
--
ciao! .mau.
-----
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"home" email: mau@beatles.cselt.stet.it
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: Ray.Chramega <Ray.Chramega@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: THE INNER LIGHT <LYRICS>
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 06:45:45 GMT

In <3026.9301081622@csparc12.scs.leeds.ac.uk> ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk writes:

>In article <endesa.3.726463569@lascar.puc.cl> you write:
>>Hi there:
>>I'm looking for lyrics of The Inner Light and Flying (MMT).
>>Any hint?  Thank U.
>>
>>Jorge Espinosa (endesa@lascar.puc.cl)

>I only posted the lyrics of Flying a year ago (as ross-c@cs.aukuni.ac.nz),
>and already someone's asking for them again.

>Here they are once more,

>	Flying AKA Ariel Tour Instrumental (Lennon/McCartney/Harrison/Starkey)
>	------     -----------------------

>	La la la la la la
>	La la la la la la
>	La la la la la la 
>	La la la la la la 
>	Oooooooooooo ooooooooooo oooooooooooo
>	
>	La la la la la la 
>	La la la la la la 
>	La la la la la la
>	La la la la la la
>	Ooooooooooo ooooooooooo ooooooooooooo
>	
>Cheers,

>Ross-c

>PS: For the humour-impaired, :-)

        THE INNER LIGHT
        -------------------------
        Without going out of my door
        I can know all things on earth.
        Without looking out of my window
        I could know the ways of heaven.
        The farther one travels,
        The less one knows,
        The less one knows.
        Without going out of your door
        You can know all things on earth.
        Without looking out of your window
        You can know the ways of heaven.
        The farther one travels,
        The less one knows,
        The less one knows.
        Arrive without traveling.
        See all without looking.
        (See all without looking).

-- 


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