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Subject: ASTEX from Legent
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:37:41 +0000


     I have just been told that we are going to trial Legent's ASTEX
software in the next couple of days, and I would appreciate hearing
anybodys experiences with the product (good or bad). I am more concerned
with the reliability of the product, and whether I need to worry too 
much about it crashing my MVS system. I am not too concerned about the
functionality of the product, since that is for somebody else to worry
about.

                  Thanks
                   
                      Steve

**************************************************************                     
* Steve Entwistle             steve@rama.demon.co.uk         *
* MVS Systems Programmer      sentwistle@cix.compulink.co.uk *
* Manweb Plc                  ENTWISD@GBMWB00                *
* Chester                                                    *
* England                                                    *
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 09:09:28 EDT
From:         Zoltan Forray <SSTSZXF@VCUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: VVDS in Master catalog

The VVDS, if you dont pre-allocate/create it, is catalogued into the catalog
of the first alias that puts a VSAM dataset on a new pack not already
containing a VVDS. This can cause a mess, especially when trying to empty a
pack. It is highly recommended to create it yourself, when intializing a disk
pack.
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:24:00 LCL
From:         LONGLEGS <LONGLEGS.SYSTEMS@MHS.UNC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CD-ROM
Comments: To: - <IBM-MAIN@ricevm1.rice.edu>

We have the CD-ROM BookManager Starter Kit, which includes a PC-DOS read
program for the manuals.  The starter disks contain over 1300 manuals with
just about everything (except logic manuals)  on MVS, VM, AIX, AS/400, etc.
on four CD-ROM's.  I run this DOS program under Windows 3.1, so my
documentation is just a  "click" away.  We have 12 CD-ROM drives mounted on
a Novell Netware server, and all of our programmers have a workstation on
the token ring.  We just put this up about a month ago, so I really don't
know about the frequency of updates.  The Starter Kit was added to my SLSS.
 Unfortunately, the softcopy documentation that is coming with some new
product shipments is not viewable with the version of the DOS read program
in the starter kit.  I think that IBM is planning to standardize all
versions and has a SOD on this, but I'm not sure.  This means that while I
have, for example, CICS  2.1.2 and 3.2.1 documentation on-line, my CICS 3.3
documentation is not online.

However, it's great.  No more TNL's!

-Joel Dunn
 UNC-Chapel Hill Administrative Data Processing
From: MCARTHY@BCVMCMS.BITNET (Leo McCarthy)
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Subject: Re: ASTEX from Legent
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:36:00 GMT
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> Subject:      ASTEX from Legent
>      I have just been told that we are going to trial Legent's ASTEX
> software in the next couple of days, and I would appreciate hearing
> anybodys experiences with the product (good or bad). I am more concerned
> with the reliability of the product, and whether I need to worry too
> much about it crashing my MVS system. I am not too concerned about the
> functionality of the product, since that is for somebody else to worry
> about.
>
>                   Thanks
>
>                       Steve
>
> **************************************************************
> * Steve Entwistle             steve@rama.demon.co.uk         *
> * MVS Systems Programmer      sentwistle@cix.compulink.co.uk *
> * Manweb Plc                  ENTWISD@GBMWB00                *
> * Chester                                                    *
> * England                                                    *
> **************************************************************

Steve,
  We have been using ASTEX  for the better part of a year now and have not
experienced any system problems. The product was a breeze to install and
configure and is straightforward to use.
Hope this helps,
    Leo
******************************************************************************
Leo NcCarthy - Systems Programmer
Boston College
Chestnut Hill, MA
USA
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:18:00 BSC
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From:         NAT_ANJOS@NET.EBT.ANRJ.BR
Subject:      NETWORK under VM/ESA 1.1

Does anybody have NETWORK, a product of Software AG, running under VM/ESA 1.1 ?

I'm searching for information about this product out of the Software AG
representative.

Any information is well come. Thanks in advance.

P.S.: We have a 9021-500 with PR/SM running MVS/ESA 3.1.3 and VM/ESA 1.1
..............................................................................
Wagner F Anjos                              BITNET: nat_anjos@net.ebt.anrj.br
Senior System Programmer                    Phone: (55-021) 216-7718
EMBRATEL
Rua Senador Pompeu,119 / 727
Rio de Janeiro - RJ  CEP:20000
Brazil
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 22:40:59 +0300
From:         Larry Israel <VSLARRY@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL>
Subject:      Old VMBACKUP and I/O errors
Comments: To: l-vmcntr@dearn.BITNET

I am posting this for a shop down the road. They have just gotten some
3380 model K disks on a 3380-23 controller, running VM/SP REL 5 (they
are moving to VM/ESA soon) on an IBM 9000 model 9210. They are running
VMBACKUP 4.1. They moved minidisks from some model A 3380's to the K by
using VMBACKUP, editing the directory to change the volume serial number for
some of the model A's, and changing both the volume serial number and
cylinder address for others, so they put two single-density volumes on one
double density one. The model K disks were prepared for the move by
the INSTALL command of DSF, followed by the CPVOLUME format and allocate
to set cylinder 0 and the allocation map (all PERM).

Everything went fine. The minidisks are quite usable. There is, however, one
slight problem. On some of the non-CMS (VSAM or VSE) minidisk VMBACKUP gets
an error on attempting a backup. The errors are fairly, but not completely,
repeatable. The errors occur both on minidisk whose cylinder addresses have
changed and those which have not changed. DDR gives no problems on reading
the minidisks, nor does the EREP log show any errors.

Does anyone have any ideas as to what the problem might be?
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:24:23 EDT
From:         Larry Holder <##09@UTMARTN.BITNET>
Subject:      VTAM Application

>     I am trying to write a VTAM application that displays a screen of
> options to execute (for example TSO, CICS etc.) Does anyone have a
> VTAM application example they could send me? I would appreciate it
> tremendously.
>

If you're just wanting to give the user a menu of choices, then
assemble a customized USS table.  A sample one came with our VSE system
and we tailored from there.  The manuals also helped.

Larry Holder
Senior Programmer/Analyst
The University of Tennessee at Martin Computer Center, Martin, TN 38237
Bitnet: ##09@UTMARTN  Phone: (901) 587-7890  Fax: (901) 587-7841

Software: VSE/ESA 1.1.1, CICS/VSE 2.1.0, VM/ESA 1.0, COBOL-II 1.3.2
Hardware: IBM 9221-150; 9336 FBA dasd; 9348 tape; 7171 protocol cvrt
New PSW:  (Personal Status Words): Saved by grace (Romans 1:16 & 8:38)
From: SYS0008@MVS.UDEL.EDU
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Subject: Re: CD-ROM
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:24:00 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <IBM-MAIN%92082008193906@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>,
Zoltan Forray <SSTSZXF@VCUVM1.BITNET> writes:

>The BOOKMANAGER "books" are in a standard format, that can be transfered from
>MVS to PC to VM to CD-ROM without any conversion.
>

Does anyone know if this format is documented anywhere?  (That we're
allowed to have?)

Shawn.
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From: bjpocock@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Beastor the Mad)
Subject: Looking for a law group
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: can
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 02:08:48 GMT

Just wondering if I should write here if I'm looking to find about about legal
matters dealing with a business I'm going in... (ie... do I need a lawyer, ect..).

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From: eldar@lomi.spb.su (Eldar A. Musaev)
Subject: Info on a book "Taxation in Russia"
Reply-To: eldar@lomi.spb.su
Organization: St.Petersburg Branch Steklov's Mathematical Institute
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 15:54:37 +0300


                An unique information in an unique book
                ---------------------------------------
                |         Taxation in Russia          |
                ---------------------------------------
               by.Mrs.Galina Musaeva and Dr.Eldar Musaev

The complete and reliable guide to the system of taxes in Russia, which
had stabilized only in June 1992, reflected in tables, schemata, formulae
and English text comppressed into 30 pages. The book covers all taxes,
import/export and foreign investments policy. Future possible changes
are supposed to be published in subsequent issues of "Taxation in
Russia".

Mrs.Galina Musaeva (M.Sc.) and Mr.Eldar Musaev (Ph.D.) are specialized
in lecturing, teaching, managing of teaching and consulting in areas of
accounting, business, economical laws and privatization in Russia and
CIS. The list of their clients includes Petersburg Commodities &
Securities Exchange, different companies and institutions of
St.Petersburg. Mr.Galina Musaeva is the author of "The handbook of a tax
inspector" which contains most complete and comprehensive information on
taxes in Russia including full texts of all relevant laws and official
instructions of the State Taxing Service.

== Cut here -> ======================================== <- Cut here ==

			   Taxation in Russia
			by Galina & Eldar Musaev

        If you wish to receive the book "Taxation in Russia", please,
send this completed order form along with $23.-- per copy in cheque or
money order drawn on USA bank to

		Prof.R.Baker Kearfott
		Department of Mathematics
		University of Southwestern Louisiana
		U.S.L. Box 4-1010
		Lafayette, LA 70504-1010
		USA
		E-mail: rbk@usl.edu

-----------------------------------------------------------------
			THE ORDER FORM

Name ____________________________________________________________

Company _________________________________________________________

Address _________________________________________________________

Zip __________________ State, Country ___________________________

Phone ________________ (optional) Fax _________________ (optional)

# of copies _______ x $23.-- = $ _________ in checque/money order

Date _______________________  Signature _________________________


-------- Please, show this information in your library ! --------


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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:11:18 EDT
From:         jim <essential!jdonahue@UUNET.UU.NET>
Subject:      Re: Law Schools in US & Canada
X-To:         uunet!AMERICAN.EDU!LAWSCH-L@uunet.UU.NET

Try Harvard, Georgetown and American University in the U.S. and McGill in
Canada.
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:03:09 -0500
From:         Chuck.O.Darney@CYBER.WIDENER.EDU
Subject:      Law Related Discussion Lists
X-To:         lawsch-l@auvm.american.edu

Does anyone maintain a "List of Law-Related Lists"?  We're about to start
encouraging the use of computers (for more than word processing) among the
faculty and staff.  Does anyone keep such a list?  Does anyone have any
suggestions for interesting lists to join?

   Chuck Darney
   Widener University
   School of Law
   DXCOD@cyber.widener.edu
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:27:00 EDT
From:         Tom Benson 814-865-4201 <T3B@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject:      Russia calling Denver
X-To:         INFO-LAW@BRL.MIL, INT-LAW@UMINN1.BITNET, LAWSCH-L@AUVM.BITNET,
              PSRT-L@UMCVMB.BITNET

Several months ago a law school professor in Denver wrote
to me, after hearing of my December 1991 trip to Moscow, to
try to initiate contact with Marina Karelina at the Institute
of State and Law in Moscow. I forwarded a hard copy of the
letter to Marina.  I have only now heard from her that she has
been ill, and during that period the Denver letter was lost.
She would like to re-establish contact with the professor at
the law school in Denver as she has some leads for cooperative
research along the lines he suggested.  If you can help, please
contact me and I'll try to facilitate the connection.

Tom Benson
Edwin Erle Sparks Professor of Rhetoric
______________________________________________________________________

 Tom Benson                       | INTERNET: t3b@psuvm.psu.edu
 Dept. of Speech Communication    | BITNET:   T3B@PSUVM
 Penn State University            |
 227 Sparks Building              | FAX: 814-863-7986
 University Park, PA 16802 USA
 814-238-5277 (home); 814-865-4201 (office); 814-865-3461 (secretary)
______________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:55:40 EDT
From:         Fred Zimmerman <fzimmerm@ERIM.ORG>
Subject: Re: Law Related Discussion Lists
X-To:         LAWSCH-L@AMERICAN.EDU

There's a list called INT-LAW@VM1.SPCS.UMN.EDU

that's pretty good (though seems mostly populated by law librarians at
this point).

Also worth knowing about is an FTP site--FTP.EFF.ORG, which has the electronic
archives of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, including many relevant
source documents and some cases.  There's also a good mailing list on
computers and academic freedom; for info, e-mail to
comp-academic-freedom-talk-request@eff.org.

There are some relevant Usenet newsgroups, too: misc.legal and misc.legal.
computing.  Unfortunately, I personally have found those newsgroups to be
low-quality, high-bandwidth; relatively little focused discussion, lots
of nonlawyers speculating about nonripe issues.

Best bet for high quality content is the comp-academic-freedom
mailing list; if you are computer literate, the EFF FTP site is worth
checking out.

Hope this helps; anyone else out there with other ideas?  I'm very
interested in improving the quality of legal communication on the
Internet.

Oh, yes, one other good resource:  Columbia University Law school has
the NALP student employment database available via WAIS.
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From: vickeong@student.business.uwo.ca (Victor Jiun-Wen Keong)
Subject: Law Schools in US & Canada
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:02:27 GMT

Hi, I'm new to this grp. I wonder if anybody can help me - I need 
information on which good law schools in US/Canada offers Masters 
programs in Comparative Law?

Please e-mail me. Thanx  in advance

vickeong@student.business.uwo.ca (Victor Jiun-Wen Keong)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:37:58 -0400
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From:         David Kujawski <kujawski@ASNUNA.ASN.NET>
Subject:      Fractal/Vector Graphics information request...
X-To:         INGRAFX@PSUVM.PSU.EDU

Hello INGRAFX users,
   Does anyone have any information that they can share with me, and the
SIG, on the topics of Fractal Image compression and Vector Graphics?
   I am interested in designing a program that will conver the .GIF format
to a Fractal .FIF format (developed by P.OEM at Georgia Tech) or any other
Fractal compression type that I could recieve info on...
   I am also interested in designing a siulation using Vector Graphics to
represent objects in the scenario...

                                        Thanks for any and all info,
                                                            -David Kujawski
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:26:16 +1000
From:         rob@DEAKIN.OZ.AU
Subject:      book now for your place in cyberspace

This message came to me from another list.  Maybe people know about it but
some may not.


- -----Forwarded message-----


Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:58:45 -0500
Reply-To: "Society for Literature and Science - philos., tech.,
cyber discussion" <LITSCI-L@UIUCVMD.BITNET>
cyber discussion" <LITSCI-L@UIUCVMD.BITNET>
From: "Joe Amato" <jamato@UX1.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      Something to keep an eye out for...
Comments: To: LITSCI-L@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
To: Multiple recipients of list LITSCI-L <LITSCI-L@UIUCVMD.BITNET>

For those who are still lurking, the journal _Works and Days_ (out of
Indiana University of Pennsylvania) is planning two special issues on "The
Geography of Cyberspace in Literary and Cultural Studies" (nos. 22 & 23),
to be guest edited by Joseph Feustle and James J. Sosnoski.  Given that the
journal appears twice annually, and that current issue no. is 19, issue 22
should be out fall 1993.

Lots to do till then ...

Joe





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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:29:21 +1000
From:         rob@DEAKIN.OZ.AU
Subject:      Graphical methods in Educational Research

A group of us at Deakin University (in Australia) are currently engaged in a
study we call 'Schooling the Future'.  Our assumption is that recent changes
in the media have created an adolescent culture that relates in different ways
to schools and schooling from the ways we often assume.  We are finding some
suprises in this including what looks like a return to some 'traditional'
values and practices.

One of the problems we have run into is an impasse of the methodological kind.
The research methods we normally use (in our case interviews and observations
that are broadly 'ethnographic') seem often to be simply playing back to us
information about the methods themselves and failing to connect with changed
subjectivities we suggest are there (and even 'here').

We are experimenting with methods not usually used in ed research one of which
we have borrowed from  'perceptual geography' - asking kids where they feel
safe/unsafe, asking students to 'map' their life worlds (where does homework
fit in relation to sport, family, church, music, friends etc etc). We are also
thinking of making use of photographs and photography (something I have
experimented with in the past having been much influenced by the work of John
Berger and Jean Mohr).

 We are all beginners at this and seek information and advice from others who
may be further along the track or who face similar problems.  Are the broad
questions we are asking about how to do research in a world we believe has
changed in quite fundamental ways as a consequence of developments in the
media, questions others recognise as familiar?

Rob Walker
From: ECV3LAC@BRUFSC.BITNET (lucilene antunes de sa)
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Subject: hello
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:13:03 GMT
Organization: Universidade Federal de Santa Catarina/BRASIL
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please add me to your mailing list.

my name is lucilene antunes correia marques de sa. i am brazilian.
i am a msc. graduate student at the Department of civil engineering,
federal university of santa catarina.

i work in the area of multipurpose cadastre.
my advisor is flavio felipe kirchner.

my basic interests are in all gis-related issues, mostly gis applications
urban and municipal, and technology (photogrammetry/remote sensing/scanning/
gps/cad/systems integration/other).

my address is
lucilene antunes c. m. de sa
rua tenente silveira,93 - apto. 33
centro - florianopolis - sc
88010  -  brazil
e-mail <ecv3lac at brufsc>

                            thanks
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:58:00 CST
From:         NAME <TMARTIN@AUDUCVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Graphical methods in Educational Research

Regarding Rob Walter's comment about the use of "perceptual geography"
techniques, probably the two best contacts in the field of Geography who
can be of help in designing these types of studies are Peter Gould at Penn
State and Reginald Golledge at U Cal - Santa Barbara.  Sorry that I do not have
e-mail addresses for either.  There is some good literature in this field that
you should not miss.  Tom Martinson (TMARTIN@AUDUCVAX.bitnet)
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From: sulko-m@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mark A. Sulkowski)
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Subject: Agorics Papers
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:45:07 GMT
Organization: UB


	I am very interested in reading up on Agorics.  I've heard that
there is a book called _Ecology of Computation_, but I can't seem to
find it in local book stores.  Does anyone know how I can get a copy?
And how much it costs?  Please send me the info.

	Also, if anyone does know of the existence of additional
information on the subject, let me know how I can get ahold of that
too.

	Thanks!


Mark Venture						Venture On!

p.s. we should liven this conference up.  Serious proposition: post
the Extropian Principles v2.0 and lets have a big discussion on them.
Does that sound good?  Now all we need is someone to post the principles.
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From:         Max More <more%aludra.usc.edu@USC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Agorics Papers
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              92 10:45 pm

>
> 	I am very interested in reading up on Agorics.  I've heard that
> there is a book called _Ecology of Computation_, but I can't seem to
> find it in local book stores.  Does anyone know how I can get a copy?
> And how much it costs?  Please send me the info.

All I can tell you right now is that there is a new paperback version.
The original hardback was published by Elsevier Science Publishers.
Someone has said that they are likely to write a review of the paperback
edition for Extropy, so I should have more details before long.

>
> p.s. we should liven this conference up.  Serious proposition: post
> the Extropian Principles v2.0 and lets have a big discussion on them.
> Does that sound good?  Now all we need is someone to post the principles.
>
Hold on!  I'm planning on uploading the Extropian Principles (2.01 - slightly
revised) asap.  Currently the campus e-mail system refuses to let me upload
anything of length.  I hope to solve the problem on Friday.  If not, I'll mail
the Principles on disk to an another ExI director and ask him to upload them.

Max More		more@usc.edu
Executive Director
Extropy Institute (ExI)