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From: Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.cis.YALE.EDU (ALN - Go Giants!)
Subject: Re: Whose fans are most frustrated?
Organization: Yale University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:29:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.011819.1236@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) writes:
>From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
>Subject: Re: Whose fans are most frustrated?
>Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 01:18:19 GMT
>In article <16B4DDF49.ISTRE-A@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU> istre@ricevm1.rice.edu writes:
>>I would like to cast my vote for the fans who have suffered the most. I am
>>talking about their team having high expectations only to falter in the
>>end. I will call this the "Most Frustrated Fans" award.
>> 
>>The nominees are:
>> 
>>1): Denver Broncos fans - 
>> 
>>2): Minnesota Vkings fans - 
>> 
>>3): Cleveland Browns fans - 
>> 
>>4): Buffalo Bills fans - 
>> 
>>5): Houston Oilers fans - 
>> 
>>And the winner is ---- you guessed it, Houston Oilers fans. And yes, you
>>guessed it, I am an Oilers fan. What else can you say when your team has
>>made the playoffs six years in a row without a least making it to the
>>title game at least once. At least the Broncos, Vikings, and Bills have
>>made it to the Super Bowl and the Browns have made it to the title game.
>> 
>>OK, I apologize, After all, I am only venting off some 20 years of play-
>>off anger and frustration.
>>
>You did not mention:
>
>6.  New Orleans Saints fans - you fill in the reasons. 
>
>7.  San Francisco 49er fans - WHAT!? we wuz robbed for a "three peat" :-)

8. N.Y Giants fans - Watching their superbowl caliber team fall to shit 
under Handley.  Ray Must Go..... RAY IS GONE..... Whew!

ALN
From: boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:54:56 GMT
Subject: Re: What the Saints need:  A better offensive line?
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

So much for all that BS about the Aints coming to Candlestick to whip SFs
butt.  Guess again.  Hebert played down to his abilities yet again.
From: v057p7nk@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Andrew W Korbut)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Bills Game on Tape?
Date: 4 Jan 93 13:22:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Anyone have da Bills game on VHS?  I gotta have it!  Will compensate for
time, trouble and tape.  Or if you are local, and snagged it from the
satellite I have a couple of VCR's set for dubbing...

Please mail any responses.  Thanks.

 Dr.D [The Devils Advocate]        "Drinkin' & women & guns don't mix..."
 v057p7nk@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
 awkorbut@acsu.buffalo.edu                      - Mark Arm
From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Winner of The Bet IV
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:04:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

In article <1993Jan4.031939.4754@serval.net.wsu.edu>, jjungbau@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer) writes...

>* A John Gloria Fan Club T-shirt

How 'bout an "I'm *not* John P. Gloria" T-shirt?

JGH
From: sean_murphy@quixote.wpd.sgi.com (Sean Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: NINERS WIN!!!!!!!!
Summary: NINERS WIN!!!!!!!!!
Date: 10 Jan 93 00:18:31 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

NINERS BEAT THE SKINS 20-13!!!!!!
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:50:57 -0500 
From: Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Chargers' season goes down in the rain
Distribution: na

Excerpts from netnews.rec.sport.football.pro: 11-Jan-93 Chargers' season
goes down .. hyderabadi@sdcc3.ucsd.ed (2740)


> till the 23rd pick. Of course, Beathard may go after some free-agents if 
> Spanos opens up. Reggie White? #) 

Check the previous posts for the one about the new free agency
agreement. Apparently, since SD made it to the second round of the
playoffs, they can't sign any free agents, unless they lose some. I
believe the most notable free agent for the Chargers is Rod
Bernstine--would he leave SD? We'll have to wait and see.

Before this season I predicted SD would be in the playoffs by virtue of
a division championship--I was right (of course I also expected Friesz
to be the man getting us there!). I also said they would make the AFC
Championship game in the 1993-94 season. Here's hoping I'm right again!
:)

I think the fact that Bobby Ross insisted on keeping Humphries in the
game "no matter what--as long he's healthy" says that Humphries is next
year's starter and Friesz is gonna have to fight hard if he wants that
starting position. I hope we don't end up like Minnesota and (oh god
no!) the Ducks next year, with a QB controversy....

Go Chargers!!

--Vernon.
From: sajja@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Rajeev  Sajja)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: A question for Eagle fans....
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:16:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <103743@netnews.upenn.edu> satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
>

>They remind me a lot of the MNF crew, willing to give their listeners exactly
>what they want to hear but never educating anyone in the process.  

hey satish, you probably listened to the guys in the morning from 6-10
(al, tony, angelo). The guys from 10 (chuck by the way he is from dallas),
12 (jody mcdonald dallas fan) 4 (steve fredricks & mike) and depending on
sixers and flyers game Gary Cobb (former eagle) are pretty good.
the morning crew just tries to be humorous. The other guys try to give a lot
of insight. Gary Cobb, steve and Mike, and jody are pretty good and I enjoy
listening to them. Depending on the morning crew, you can't clasify the
whole WIP crew as being not knowledgeable.

Check the others out!!!

>
>satish nair


-Rajeev
A Scrambling "Bring It Home For Jerome" Eagle Fan..
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From: macole@wam.umd.edu (The Dude)
Subject: Re: Dallas Cowboys: Wheaties, Breakfast of Champions!
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:01:57 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.141824.20835@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes) writes:
>In article <C0Du4w.4KK@ra.nrl.navy.mil>, liskey@falcon.nrl.navy.mil (Steve Liskey) writes:
>> 	I read in The Official Dallas Cowboys Weekly magazine that the
>> 	Cowboys will be featured on the cover of Wheaties after they
>> 	won the NFC East title.
>
>I can't resist...
>
>That's great!  Now us Eagles fans can eat up and spit out the Cowboys
>just like our favorite team:-)!
>
>
Just don't choke!  Surgeon General Warning: "Choking may be bad for your
health...especially when the No. 1 defense will ram the ball down your throats."

Uh oh...he's at it again.....

"Who won the fight between Vai Sikahema (sp?) and the goal post?"

"Does Heath Sherman know that he is named after a candy bar?"

"Does Seth Joyner know that he is named after 'The Fly' (Seth Brundel, for
those who can't get away from football)?"

"Are any of the Eagles defensive backs wearing a cast?  Michael Irvin has an
allergic reaction to casts...he tends to fumble"

"How can someone with the world's largest chin strap get so many stitches on
his chin (Troy Aikman, of course)?"

"Do you think Antoine Davis can make it through a game without a penalty?"

"Did you hear...Lester Hayes has offered Randall Cunningham some of his 
'stick-um' for his hands...that should help."

"Good news...Isaac Holt decided to volunteer as a firefighter to eleviate all
those 'burns' that receivers keep inflicting upon him."

"Jerry Jones has offered a $10 million dollar signing bonus to basketball
player Jim Jackson...just because they have the same initials."

whoa!!! got a little carried away there...

see ya!

Mario



-- 
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University of Maryland College Park  |  Crystal City, Arlington, VA 22202
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From: pele@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (David J. Duffield)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: THE RETURN OF CRAP FOOTBALL
Date: 7 Jan 93 05:51:41 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


>It is true that real men play soccer, but they play football and rugby and
>cubardee chess and the trombone as well.  Real men do not belittle other
>sports to glorify their own chosen hobby.

Yes, because we should never make comments which could in anyway (no matter
how remotely) make another person feel bad.  We should love our brothers and
put flowers in our hair.

What you DO NOT understand is that those who talk about the greatness of soccer
do so because they know exactly what the game is about.  They have played (and
not just in HS or college).  It involves more than a bag of chips, a sofa, and
a few predictions.  It is Life, not a hobby.

And this from an American, wow!!
Don't get me wrong though, after a good soccer game i enjoy a bag of chips and
a nice sofa.

--DJD
AC Milan  (40+ unbeaten streak)
From: sajja@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Rajeev  Sajja)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Eagles Victory...
Date: 4 Jan 93 18:04:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1i9qa1INNk95@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:
>In article <103612@netnews.upenn.edu> sajja@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Rajeev  Sajja) writes:

>Think again homey, Emmitt gonna romp and Emmitt gonna stomp.....
>I guess that thrashing we gave you on Nov 1 slipped your mind, 
>Emmitt 163 yards, Play like yesterday and it's gonna be a long 
>long day...Hell in the first game we turned the ball over four times
>and were still in the game late.

Guess you forgot the score on nov 1. At half time, if i remember right 3-0
considering the fact that eagles had one first down. If that speaks highly 
of the boys hmm it should make me wonder. The nov 1 game was 20-10 and the 
Oct 5 game was 31-7. Should that remind you of anything....
Emmitt smith is going down and going down hard!! 
If you guys were not praying for a saints victory on sunday, then you need
to refresh your memory with what happenned in the past..
Does last year's 24-0 remind you of anything. And the venue was texas stadium.
11 sacks, I can live with that. well, all said and done it is going to be 
a closely fought game.
My heart says...

	Philadelphia:	24
	Dallas:		20

>DALLAS COWBOYS
>NFC EAST CHAMPIONS
>RESTED AND READY !!!!
>tim


-Rajeev
A Scrambling "Bring It Home For Jerome" Eagle Fan..
hey, vintage 1990 randall is back...
GO EAGLES....
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: dggok@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (4E150M)
Subject: Re: Dallas on Real Grass
Reply-To: dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:45:20 GMT

In article <C0pJy6.22J@hpuerca.atl.hp.com> krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin Barnes) writes:
>
>Can some one post the Cowboys record for this season. I'd like to get an
>idea of how they play on real grass. I think the field conditions are really

I read this morning that the Cowboys played 13 of their 17 games on
fake grass.  Of the other 4, two of them were played on real fast
grass surfaces (LA Rams and somewhere else).  Safe to say they didn't
play anywhere as awful as next week in SF.  Of course, the 49ers
have only played on such a surface once - last week. :-)

>going to favor SF this week, mainly because thay played there last week.
>It will be a great game and I wish both teams and their fans good luck
>
>Buffalo 31 Miami 23
>
>SF 41 Dallas 35
>
>Buffalo 42 SF 37

We'll see.  Bills actually winning the big one?  Oh my!
>
>See the Bills win!


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From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (S. Hariharan )
Subject: LIST OF FRUSTRATIONS.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:16:33 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Here is a Category-wise list of Team of Frustrations. Corrections
are welcome from fans of other teams and I will post a revised list.

A) HAVE BEEN TO THE SUPER-BOWL BUT NEVER WON IT
------------------------------------------------
1) Vikes ... 0-4  
2) Broncos   0-4
3) Bengals   0-2
4) Bills     0-2
5) Patriots  0-1
6) Rams      0-1
7) Eagles    0-1
-------------------------------------------------
Categories below are teams who have never even been to a Super Bowl
B) HAVE NEVER WON A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP
--------------------------------------------------
1) Browns    0-2
2) Oilers    0-1
3) Lions     0-1
4)Additions are welcome
---------------------------------------------------

C) HAVE NEVER WON A PLAYOFF GAME
----------------------------------------------------
1) Saints     0-3

D) HAVE NEVER BEEN TO A PLAYOFF GAME
---------------------------------------------------
1) Tampa Bay
2) Sea-Hawks
From: schalene@sequent.com (Schalene Dagutis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: TOP TEN MADDENISMS
Keywords: madden, football
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:32:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1993Jan8.213209.16826
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <1293@pascal.einstein.eds.com> schnabel@einstein.eds.com (Eric Schnabel) writes:
>Just an casual observation from a casual armchair QB:
>
>I think John Madden is great! He takes some of the staleness out of the 
>otherwise very redundant commentary, and makes the game more entertaining. 
>
>Well, for the five or six other folks out there who like madden, here's 
>some of my favorite Madden-isms:
>
>Any other good stories out there???????
>   
I guess I'm one of the five or six Madden fans out there.....but then I 
like to laugh

My favorite was when the Redskins were playing the Vikings (it was in
the regular season).  CBS had a camera at mid field attached to the dome
ceiling.  Madden called it a pretty sorry excuse for the Goodyear Blimp
and proceeded to talk about how sissy it was to play in dome -- complete
with all my favorite Madden sound effects.

schalene
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: bderolf@encore.com (Brad DeRolf)
Subject: Re: Dolphins/Bills Tickets
Reply-To: bderolf@encore.com (Brad DeRolf)
Organization: Encore Computer Corp
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:55:32 GMT
News-Software: NN 6.4.16


>Does anyone have information on how I can get two tickets to the AFC
>Championship Game?  I know it is sold out!
>
>GO FISH !!!!!!!!!!

You can still get CLUB level Seats for $100-$150 apeice. Here are the phone
numbers: area code (305) 620-2578 (Dolphins) or (800) 255-3094

Also JJ Kelly Bus/Charter services has tickets with a bus package 
(305) 583-4496.  Tell em' Brad sent you.

Brad
From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Skywalker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: SON OF CRAP FOOTBALL!
Date: 8 Jan 1993 14:35:50 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Atomic Biophysics H.H.M.I.
NNTP-Posting-Host: dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu

In article <1993Jan8.132300.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> clg292@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:

[more 3rd world crap deleted]

 >By the way America has the biggest proportion of iliterate people, in the
 >western world, not to mention the porpotion of fat bastards you have.
 >

True, but we have the nukes !!!
nuff said !
From: exucad@exu.ericsson.se (Charles Dobbins)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: All this America's team nonsense.
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:48:19 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
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              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

>To the media-monkeys: Please keep the Boys' drooling to urself
>We don't need this nonsense.

Apparantly we do, they know how to sell and a picture of the Cowboys will 
sell a hell of a lot more product than the Vikings right now.

>S.H
>NOTHING BETTER THAN GANG GREEN BEATING THE HELL OUT OF THE
>OVERRATED BOYS!!!

Grow up and get a Quarterback!!!!!
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From: zmed0b@trc.amoco.com (Michael)
Subject: Re: THE RETURN OF CRAP FOOTBALL
Originator: zmed0b@zircon
Organization: Amoco Production Company, Tulsa Research
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:08:32 GMT


>What's the punishment for being the best college footballer and getting
>caught using drugs? You get a mult-million dollar contract for one of
>the best teams in the country.Call me stupid, but it's hardly
>a deterent.

This is a gross generalization.  The QB for the Washington Huskies doesn't
see a whole lot of multi-million dollar contracts.  And OU's Charles
Thompson doesn't get many either from his prison cell.

>It's time drugs abuse was stoped in football.Then again if
>they did that there would'nt be any decent players left.

More gross generalization.  Are you trying to suggest that Jim Kelly,
Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders and Thurman Thomas are steroid-addled freaks?
I think not.  That's why they have steroid tests.

>Without drugs
>your guys would'nt even get a game for a school rugby team over here.
>American Football is a sport? for wimps, and poofs without the commitment
>to make it without drugs.

Hah. This is blatant stupidity.  At least the U.S. didn't legalize heroin
for addicts.  In the U.K., all you have to do is prove that you're addicted
to heroin in front of a panel of doctors and you get your heroin free of
charge from the government.  I don't see where you can blame American Football
to make it without drugs when your own government can't do the same.

>So chew on that you self-serving, arogant illigitimates.

Your arguments are clearly not very intelligent.  That's bad enough.  However,
your spelling is atrocious.  It is difficult to take anyone seriously when
their argument is riddled with spelling mistakes.  For example, in this one
small segment of your article:

deterent stoped would'nt would'nt arogant illigitimates

Nice job, pal.

>Real men play soccer
Real men don't need to tell other men what makes them real men.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: sbs9276@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Bills/Montana thread
Reply-To: sbs9276@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:54:56 GMT


      OK, I was at the game. AND HOLY S;)T WAS IT A FUN TIME. I
don't know if the announcers mentioned it (I'm sure they did),
but the majority of the 75+ thoudsand fans booed the Bills into
halftime. I was suuuuper POED about that-- Hey they're my team.

      But from the moment of the onsides kick recovery, everyone
(including my friend who is a HUGE Oiler fan sitting next to me)
knew that something special was in the air. NOONE was seated from
that onsides kick recovery on-- NOT ONE PERSON! And the score at
that point was 35-10.

      I have been a four year season ticket holder (no not fair
weather, I've been a season ticket-holder since I have been able
to drive!), and I can say that that was the loudest second half
of football EVER!

      I was at the game and didn't see the bad calls by the refs
but I don't imagine the greatest comeback in history ever comes
without some breaks and SUPERB 2nd half execution (and Warren
Moon never having a moment of silence).

      ------my thoughts on Joe Montana

      He's stated publicly that he would rather start for a 2-14
team than play backup for a sBowl team. But all of his business
ties are on the West coast. Hmmm.. does anyone out there know of a
West Coast owner with two horrendous QBs who would pay a ton of
money to have a great QB for the last 1-4 yrs. of his career?
That's right-- Al Davis. It would be a classic Raider move. You
heard it here first (maybe)

      "That's all I have to say about that...now you guys can ask
some football questions."
                                --Frank Reich, after starting his
                                press conf. by reading the lyrics
                                from a Christian song

      "I figured our chances of winning were like our chances of
winning the New York Lottery."
                                --Marv Levy, when asked what he
                                thought the chances of the Bills
                                winning were after the INT for a
                                TD

      "This is a religious experience"
                                --the guy next to me at the game

      "HA HA HA"
                                --Me when I found out my Mom left
                                after the int.
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From: Frank Bilotti <frank@wanda.princeton.edu>
Subject: Re: SF Bashing
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7776CED9701700D@rambo.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
X-Xxdate: Mon, 11 Jan 93 18:29:01 GMT
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:26:47 GMT

In article <1ish3qINN9ou@spim.mti.sgi.com> Anjaneya Thakar,
anjaneya@m20_anjaneya.mti.sgi.com writes:

anjaneya claims that the following is the reason for the original moronic
post:
>  (stuff deleted)  what I
>found annoying was one article that somehow indicated that Niners have a 
>better record because they play on a lousy field  ..... 

however the original post went:
>What is with these guys in Philadelphia and Dallas anyway? Once in the
last
>ten years their teams have a reasonable record and instead of enjoying
the
>good times they are spending all their steam trying to convince everyone
why
>the 49ers are not good!!!!!

If you found one article offending, don't lash out at the rest of the
fans with blatant idiocy.  I challenge you to find one post of mine that
says anything bad about the Niners (except that they'd be stupid if they
gave up on Young for two more years of Joe, which doesn't seem to be the
case based on the responses I got).

FRANK

__________________________________________
Go 'Canes & Cowboys
frank@wanda.princeton.edu
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