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From: robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CBR600F2 dethroned by '93 ZX-6. Whine......whimper!
Date: 9 Jan 1993 20:18:03 GMT
Organization: Institute of Cognitive Studies, U.C. Berkeley
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Keywords: tank, bloated

In article <1993Jan9.131137.20938@osf.org> jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris) writes:
>I don't mind the bloated look, but that stooopud NINJA decal! How can anybody 
>over 25 years of age feel like an adult riding a bike called NINJA?  (Oh I 
>forgot, the target market isn't adults.....)

Funny, I was in the grocery store just last night and noticed a review of
the new ZX11-D.  I swear the first thought through my mind was, "nice looking
bike...I wonder how hard it is to get that juvenile Ninja decal off."

From an engineering, ergonomics standpoint, you would think the ZX11 is 
supposed to fit in the "sport-touring" niche.  Is it really the case that
they are consciously marketing the ZX11 as some sort of adolescent
penis-extender?  Or are they really that clueless about the tastes of the
"not ready for Goldwings" crowd?


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From: zowie@daedalus.stanford.edu (Craig "Powderkeg" DeForest)
Subject: Re: It's a gas
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Stanford Center for Space Science and Astrophysics
Distribution: usa
Date: 6 Jan 93 14:51:13

In article <foo> ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:
   Paul Blumstein (paulb@harley.tti.com) wrote:
   : MTBE is the least
   : harmul & Ethanol is the most harmful to our bikes.

   I think that Methanol is probably more harmful than Ethanol.
   It is more likely to eat the soft rubber bits.

Hear, hear!  Bill's right.  Ethanol is the perfect solvent --
non-poisonous, miscible with water, dissolves almost everything you
want it to, dissolves almost nothing you don't want it to.  Too
bad it's a drug too -- otherwise you could buy it everywhere.

(I use straight ethanol both for cleaning and as a fuel additive [~50%
by volume] in my '79 <mumble>, with no problem...)

--
DON'T DRINK SOAP! DILUTE DILUTE! OK!
From: michaelb@compnews.co.uk (Michael Burton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: ? about RD series of motorcycles
Date: 10 Jan 93 15:37:20 GMT
Organization: Computer Newspaper Services, Howden, UK.
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There are still plenty of RD knocking about in the uk at the moment, but Yamaha
Only now import one of them..the RD350YPVS LC.
At one time there were RD 50's RD 125 twin's, RD 125LC, RD 200, RD 250, RD 250LCRD 350LC and the RD 400...oooppsss nearly forgot the RD 500LC.
All of these models were very common in the Uk at one time, but there are not 
many about now a days.
To give an example of progression, A modern 125 such as the TZR or a RG gamma 
can just about keep up with the old RD 250 air cooled thing!!!!
But the sound of any of the above bikes brings the memories flooding back...
And I am only 20 years old.
Anyway must get back to work to save up for my next RGV250 so c u all later!!


--
	AUDI...Kickin' Ass in full effect !!
	If you want an adrenaline RUSH don't buy an 'E'
	BUY AN AUDI (German Cars - The BEST)
	Soon to get another RGV 250...heheheh I just cant wait!!!
	E-mail michaelb@compnews.co.uk
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Yamaha TDM 850, comments wanted.
Date: 9 Jan 93 00:36:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1993Jan9.003655.29087
Organization: Washington State University

In article <1993Jan8.162311.29360@rtsg.mot.com> svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.140003.6743@eua.ericsson.se> trsajo@eua.ericsson.se writes:
>|
>|Is there really noone out there that has any experiance, firsthand or not, with
>|this bike??? 
>
>|> 	-What mileage can I expect?
>
>Oh, geez, I don't remember that.  Offhand I would guess 40mpg or so.  I 
>suggest you find someone with a review.  Several of the rags talked a 
>lot about the bike last year.

I was sorta looking at the TDM before I bought the PD.  I have been reading
postings about it ever since.  Didn't someone post that the mileage was
outstanding.  Is the TDM fuel injected?  Perhaps it was really tall gearing
but I think I recall someone posting mileages in the 65 mpg or better range.

Ride Free,

Bill
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johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu  prez=BIMC  KotV KotRR                                
DoD #00314  AMA #580924   Squid Index 3.0    WMTC #0002  KotD #0001             
Yamabeemer fjgs1200pdr100 and a Volvo.  What more could anyone ask?             
                                                                                
We have secretly replaced the small, precision quartz timing crystals           
in these new IC's with improved Folger's crystals.  Now, let's watch 
what happens....                                                                
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From: tony@morgan.demon.co.uk (Tony Kidson)
Subject: Re: chain prematurely worn out? 
Distribution: world
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Reply-To: tony@morgan.demon.co.uk
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:18:58 +0000

Well, I've _finally_ managed to dig out the address of the firm that make the 
ScottOiler for any entrepreneur that wants to make their fortune importing it 
to the USA. It is


Scottoilers,
106 Clober Road,
Milngavie,  (yes, funny name, but thats what it says)
Glasgow G62 7SS.

Tel: +44 41 956 6225


Tony

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From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Attn Jody!! Your bra for...
Date: 5 Jan 93 05:45:47 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View

In article <1782@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
}	Your bra for my Kilt...Its Wool, its made in Scotland...Its
}	made out of the hair of little Scottish Sheep...It was walked
}	by real Scotswomen (the wool)...the wool was dyed by Real
}	Scotsman...The Dyed wool was woven by real Scotsweavers and the
}	kilt was made by a real Scots Tailors....it is in Short
}	Scottish...Through and through...Would you care for some haggis
}	as well?? Perhaps a Blamonge?
}
}				Ryan the Scot...

The Scotsman, an old joke put to music by Mike Cross
(and probably many others both before and since)

A Scotsman clad in kilt left a bar one evening fair
And one could tell by how he walked he'd drunk more than his share
He staggered on until he could no longer keep his feet
Then he stumbled off into the grass to sleep beside the street

Ring ding deedle-eedle-aye-dee-oh!
Ring die deedle-oh-deet!
He stumbled off into the grass to sleep beside the street.

Well later on two young and lovely girls just happened by.
And one said to the other with a twinkle in her eye,
"See yon sleepin' Scotsman? So young and handsome-built!
I wonder if it's true what they don't wear beneath the kilt..."

Ring ding deedle-eedle-aye-dee-oh!
Ring die deedle-oh dilt!
I wonder if it's true what they don't wear beneath the kilt.

Well they creeped up to the sleepin' Scotsman quiet as could be,
And lifted up his kilt above the waist so they could see...
			<gasp!>
There before their wonderin' eyes beneath his Scottish skirt
Was nothin' but what God had graced him with upon his birth!

Ring ding deedle-eedle-aye-dee-oh!
Ring die deedle-oh dirth!
Was nothin' but what God had graced him with upon his birth!

Well they marveled for a moment, then one said, "We'd best be gone.
But let's leave a present for our friend before we move along."
So as a gift they left a blue silk ribbon tied into a bow
'Round the bonnie star of the Scot's kilt-a-liftin' show.

Ring ding deedle-eedle-aye-dee-oh!
Ring die deedle-oh doe!
'Round the bonnie star of the Scot's kilt-a-liftin' show.

....

The Scotsman woke to nature's call and stumbled towards the trees.
Behind a bush he lifts his kilt and he gawks at what he sees.
Then in a startled voice he says to what's before his eyes......
"My friend I don't know where you've been but I see you've won first prize!"

Ring ding deedle-eedle-aye-dee-oh!
Ring die deedle-oh dize!
My friend I don't know where you've been but I see you've won first prize!

Curtis "My mother was an Abernethy, and my father was a MacShane" Jackson*

* MacShane sounded Irish enough to get a lot of my family persecuted back
  when the Irish were being trod upon, so the name was changed to protect
  the innocent (or at least us Scots).
-- 
Curtis Jackson			'91 Black Lab/Blue Heeler "Studley Doright"
cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	'92 Collie/Golden "George"
DoD #721			'91 Hawk GT	'81 Maxim 650
"I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead." -- J. Buffett
From: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: To KotL
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:30:39 -0500
Reply-To: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Organization: CMU Alumni External Account

In article <660.2B52A50B@kennel.FIDONET.ORG>, john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) writes:
> Monday January 11 1993 20:08, Robert H. Yang wrote to All:
> 
>  >> best of you. If all else fails, try bribery, either large amounts of
>  >> cash or
> 
>  RHY>         Yes.  This should work.  I confess.  I am the Keeper Of The
>  RHY> List. Send me $1000.  Cashier's check is just fine.
> 
> The penalty for masquerading as KotL is death by your own hand. Carry out
> the act quickly, and your family will be spared. ;-)

Dear Mom and Dad,

	It seems you are about to die.  Sorry 'buot that.  Left out a smiley.

Love,
Rob
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   Rob Yang (Pittsburgh, PA, U.S.A) RYANG@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
                          Systems Engineer
                 AMA 642916   DoD 0593   FSSNOC 1721
'92 CBR600F2 (Hon)   '79 XT500 (The Bitch)   '87 KDX200 (Moose)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: Gang FAQ'd by the DoD!
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa (as if it'll listen)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:20:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.182812.7686@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> tgent@dale.ksc.nasa.gov (Tom Gent) writes:

>Hi, everyone.  I'm new to this group, and was thinking of buying a bike.
>What I was wondering, though, is whether you guys recommend that I get
>a helmet?  I've heard that they mess up your hair and obstruct your
>vision, but may be good to have in a crash.  I don't think I will crash 
>though, my neighbor is a pretty good teacher.  Also, are there any laws
>concerning helmets that I should be aware of?

The helmet only musses your hair if it's on your head.  It's important that
you spend the few extra bucks for the racer replica models; they always look
brand new when you see them on TV.  The only proper place for that helmet is
bungied to the saddle of your liter-displacement sportbike.  Which reminds me,
I hear those bikes accelerate quick enough but can't even break 100 mph.  I'll
bet you ten bucks yours can't, either.  No fair reducing wind drag by wearing
a tighter tanktop, though.

I'm sorry I didn't respond to you via email, since you probably don't read this
group regularly (or at all, if you're smart).

PS: Wanna buy a Watch?
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| "uncomfortable and difficult to strap on my helmet and adjust my dickie" |
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|          "....your balls might be too big and swollen....."              |
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From: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: To KotL
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:30:57 -0500
Reply-To: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Organization: CMU Alumni External Account

In article <1993Jan11.212111.14639@cs.cornell.edu>, karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr) writes:
> In article <1993Jan11.193056.15988@ncsu.edu> kegunn@eos.ncsu.edu (KAY ELLEN GUNN) writes:
>>
>>Dear Kotl,
>>
>>Please issue me a DoD number. I have been reading this group for a month now,
>>and I think I am finally ready to be initiated into this estimable group. I
>>can flame with the best of you.
>
> If all else fails, try bribery, either large amounts of cash or

	Yes.  This should work.  I confess.  I am the Keeper Of The List.
Send me $1000.  Cashier's check is just fine.

Rob
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                          Systems Engineer
                 AMA 642916   DoD 0593   FSSNOC 1721
'92 CBR600F2 (Hon)   '79 XT500 (The Bitch)   '87 KDX200 (Moose)
From: BFRIBERG@FINABO.ABO.FI (Nalle, RRMCC)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Build Your Own !
Date: 10 Jan 93 12:35:13 GMT
Organization: Hack'n Slash
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <63299@mimsy.umd.edu> leavitt@cs.umd.edu writes:

> ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
> >	"If you could build your own motorcycle, what would it be ?"

Well, here are some ideas that me and my drinking buddy Klimpen came up with...

 I'd start with a cbx 1037 cc bike with some improvements to the engine, frame
and forks, brakes and so on. The rest is obvious (to me, that is)

- HUD for speedometer, tachometer and some additional as oil pressure, voltage,
clock and so on.
- Turbo
- Pneumatic starter (for a real nice turbinelike whine)
- Radar detector/scrambler
- Mobile phone
- CB
- Computerized silent alarm with more detectors than the average nuclear plant
- 2x120 watts worth of stereo
- Motorized visor on the Nolan Porsche helmet (like in "Time Rider")
- Ignition lock with retinal scan (drop dead, James Bond *grin*)
- An alternator to cope with all this and a little more...



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From: mpmena@skcla.monsanto.com
Subject: CARPAL TUNNEL ADVICE
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 09:40:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.192301.9196@samba.oit.unc.edu>, ses@sunSITE.unc.edu (Simon Spero) writes:
>...I ended up getting carpal tunnel... strength in my hands is way down...
> 
> Thanks
> 
>  Simon
> 
O God, I have to get serious for a moment...

Despite the surgeons' desire to slice your wirsts to get condo payments, there
is another scientifically-verified (not just new-age crap) approach to CTS
(Carpal Tunnel Syndrome).  The majority of cases can be
treated/prevented (approx 80%) with vitamin therapy (flame bait, flame bait!).

It's actually a form of metabolic intervention, and has been proven clinically. 
It's also been published in peer-review journals (do you ever shudder when you
consider the term "peer-review"?)  It takes up to 12 weeks to see if it's
really going to work or not (works in about 70% of the cases; physicians will
tell you it's crazy, because they have no knowledge of metabolism!)

Here it is:

A combination theray of thiamin and B-6 supplements.  The easiest (IMHO the
best) way to get this is to take a good daily vitamin supplement for the
thiamin component (I personally like Centrum; the mineral profile is not as
fuck up as most vitamins on the market) and get a bottle of 100 mg B-6 pills at
your local golly-gee-whiz nutrition or health store.  Take one of the B-6 and
one of the multivitamin tablets per day Forever! (I have stock in the
companies!).

Seriously, this works in about 70% of cases, obviating theneed for surgery
splints, etc.  Personally, I have chronic CTS, as do most people punching
computer keys all day  (the tingling, numbness, sound familiar?).  It will take
at least 8 weeks to see if it really works, although some people feel results
in as little as a week or so.  If you feel no effect by 12 weeks, you're
fucked.

Regarding hand strength, either buy one of the hand exercisers sold everywhere,
or by a motorscooter with automatic shift!

Regards,

Michael Menard
DoD - requested in November; not heard yet.
	  I guess I'll have to get nasty and contact Jerry Garcia
	  directly, and have him get the KotL in gear.  Maybe I'll have one
	  before the Chicago bike show!  (hint, hint!)

doh 0000000003  (much easier, you just pick a number (or two or three)


'92 FXDC, '92 FXSTS

>   p.s.
>    Ok, I admit it - it was tetanus from a Hamster bite

	pps: At least it wasn't a gerbil!
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From: tony@morgan.demon.co.uk (Tony Kidson)
Subject: Re: Dear Abby sez "Don't let kids get on motorcycles" 
Distribution: world
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:07:22 +0000


In article <1993Jan7.174423.11482@sbctri.sbc.com> asper@sbctri.sbc.com writes:

>Hey, so what, buddy. We've got the softest and most absorbent toilet tissue
>in the world. That limey stuff is _sandpaper_.  USA! USA! USA!
>;-)
>Alan

Quite suitable for a country that specialises in arseholes. Christ you even 
have doctors that specialise in arseholes!

Tony

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| Tony Kidson     |`morgan' is an 8MB  486/33 Cat-| Voice +44 81 466 5127    |
| Morgan Towers,  |Warmer with a 670 MB Hard Disk.| E-Mail                   |
| Morgan Road,    |It  resides at Morgan Towers in| tony@morgan.demon.co.uk  |
| Bromley,        |Beautiful  Down Town  Bromley. | tny@cix.compulink.co.uk  |
| England BR1 3QE |            -=<*>=-            | 100024.301@compuserve.com|
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From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Engine Theory 101
Date: 8 Jan 1993 20:59:28 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
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NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 15740@spdc.ti.com, achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach) writes:
>
>How hard it is on a bike
>is probably a function of design and flywheel weight and who knows what else.

Whether it's a chain or shaft drive?  <!>

>   Although it is possible to shift most anything clutchless, all transmissions
>I've dealt with (certainly not all there is) have less stress transmitted to
>the gear teeth when the clutch is used. This would certainly be expected to
>result in less wear and longer life. Of course, you can't try both on the
>same tranny for a longterm evaluation. Bottom line, IMO, is to use it is 
>safer than not.

To use it *properly* is safer than not.  There's nothing like a little
clutchless shifting to teach one the importance of throttle control in
the shifting processes, clutch or not.  Try it occasionally, just to be
sure you're not "depending" on the clutch to cover sloppy throttle
technique.  IMHO, it's a good tool to practice with in striving for the
"smoothness" mecca Pridmore, et. al. preach about.

---
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  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Dealer won't budge on '91 ST1100
Date: 6 Jan 93 01:29:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1993Jan6.012906.24825
Organization: Washington State University

In article <1icc5fINNnav@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>In article 23995@i88.isc.com, jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec30.195227.3643@serval.net.wsu.edu> bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
>>
>>>Folks you will not believe this, but BMW has come up with a new
>>>color scheme that is absolutely ugly IMHO.  The new paint jobs make my now
>>
>>The old paint job wasn't ugly?
>
>There exists a paint job that will make the G/S non-ugly?!?

ah, would you believe "less-ugly"....?

Blemish free,

Bill
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johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu  prez=BIMC  KotV KotRR                                
DoD #00314  AMA #580924   Squid Index 3.0    WMTC #0002  KotD #0001             
Yamabeemer fjgs1200pdr100 and a Volvo.  What more could anyone ask?             
                                                                                
We have secretly replaced the small, precision quartz timing crystals           
in these new IC's with improved Folger's crystals.  Now, let's watch            
what happens....                                                                
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From: asper@sbctri.sbc.com (Alan E. Asper)
Subject: Re: Dear Abby sez "Don't let kids get on motorcycles" 
Organization: Southwestern Bell Technology Resources, St.Louis, MO
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 17:44:23 GMT

In article <726107313snz@morgan.demon.co.uk> tony@morgan.demon.co.uk writes:
>Sheesh you poor guys. In this country (where we obviously don't have as many 
>lawyers as you do), anybody trying to claim damages for injuries suffered 
>while in pursuit of a tresspass would be laughed out of court, unless they 
>could show that you maliciously set a trap designed to injure them. What kind 
>of legal system rewards the malefactor against the innocent party?
>

Hey, so what, buddy. We've got the softest and most absorbent toilet tissue
in the world. That limey stuff is _sandpaper_.  USA! USA! USA!
;-)
Alan