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From: jodar@girtab.usc.edu (Nicholas Jodar)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: A Progression of Sorts
Date: 13 Apr 1992 07:18:18 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu
Summary: Get a life....  Both of you....
Keywords: Maturation

In article <1992Apr11.135035.19619@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> karleen sue davis <ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:

>... and how do I change the relationship I'm in?  (In case
>you're thinking of advising me to break up, I should tell you that he's the
>sweetest, most loveable guy I ever met.  I know he's "the one," but NOT YET!
>I want to be young some more--let me finish puberty, at the very least... ;-)
>
>Karleen

It's not the relationship you have to change, I don't think.  You
just need to give yourself a chance to grow up.  (BOTH of you....)
You talk about it, and I think you're absolutely right in your
assessment.  Being 'attached at the hip,' and not having 'any
friends to speak of' is a good indication that neither of you has
much of a life apart from each other.

There's nothing wrong with being 'close,' but each of you is an
individual, and should work at being 'complete' outside of your
relationship.  In Romance, one and one make one, not one-half 
and one-half....

The trick is to grow TOGETHER instead of apart.  You'll both be
learning more about yourselves and each other, and it's important
to talk and keep the other person involved in your life.  
(There's that 'C' word, again...!)  Just avoid the Mommy/Daddy
syndrome.  You're supposed to be each other's Cheerleaders, not
Parents.  (One set is enough....)

You'll know you're on the right track when you have friends,
hobbies, and interests which are not dependent upon your
relationship, and you feel independent and competent as a person.
Your relationship should also improve in its quality in response 
to the new depth of your personalities. :-)

It's going to be an interesting and challenging undertaking, but
if you guys stick together and support each other, GOD willing, 
you'll do great. :-)

-Nick

'All I ask for is a comfy bed and a pint of strawberry ice-cream...'

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: mlb@cisco.com (Marcia Bednarcyk)
Subject: Re: -- WorldWideWhine --
Organization: The Dolphin Conspiracy, Phase II
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 21:10:21 GMT

In article <11334@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, lm89@ecs.soton.ac.uk (McIlhoney L) writes:
|> 2)  I have decided there is enough else in my life (my friends, the
|> BBS - yes, I enjoy that as well, but not to the exclusion of all else,
|> and the above) to mean that the absence of any immediate hope does
|> not kill me.

Reminds me of something from my own experience....I always wondered why I
didn't have an SO when I was in school, especially when after the fact several
guys told me they had been interested. Looking back with 20/20 hindsight, I
see that I didn't have *time* for a relationship between classwork, real work,
activities, and lots of friends I wanted to spend time with. And I don't
regret it one bit - how could I? I was happy!

|> The only place I allow myself to appear pessimistic is here.  Deep
|> down I _AM_ VERY pessimistic, but not miserable, about my current
|> status.  And the "not miserable" part means that life stands a chance
|> of getting better even though I don't for a moment think that it will.

I'm confused...why are you miserable about your current status? You have all
this happiness going for you. Yes, I know you don't have an SO. Does that
really have to spoil all this happiness and good feelings for you? An SO
is no guarantee of happiness, or even a guarantee that you will "feel" your
happiness deeper. 

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marcia Bednarcyk                                        ADDRESS: mlb@cisco.com
"Sweaty Snugglebunnies."
"... the meaning of life is to be happy, try not to hurt people, and hope
you fall in love."
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: haywire@wpi.WPI.EDU (Haywire)
Subject: love songs
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 06:46:13 GMT

Why is it when your trying to heal a broken heart by listening to the radio
all you hear on the radio is love songs...???????!!!!!!!!!
Its really annoying....

Is it God saying "HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...FOOLISH MORTAL, DO YOU THINK 
YOU CAN SO EASILY ESCAPE THE PAIN IN YOUR HEART?? THINK AGAIN!!!!! HAVE SOME
REALLY ANNOYING LOVE SONGS ON ALL THE CHANNELS TO MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE SHIT!!!
OH AND BY THE WAY, SILLY HUMAN, YES I AM A VENGEFUL GOD!!!!!HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!"??

Or do the radio stations have this like broken heart detector with a laser 
communicator so that the can torture the lost soul???

I would really like to know so I can shoot whoever is responsible because I 
know it can NOT be coincidence after 10 broken hearts and 10 such events 
happening afterwards!!!!

I know what your going to say....use CD's or cassettes or even records but 
still I would like to know why this happens!!!!

No...I'm not Angsting...Really I'm not....
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: charon@diana.cair.du.edu (Chuck Haron)
Subject: Idle Thoughts
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 21:50:00 GMT

Idle Thought:

Is her heart so consumed with another man, as to have no room for me? Tell
me my dear friend, how do I correct the folly of my ways, and win the haert 
of the woman I love?  Say not that there is know way, for I do not trust the
hand of Fate.   Fate has dealt Her a cruel had, and I will not let that hand
touch THIS love!!

Friend: Ahh!! But only a fool would fight Fate.  A wise man knows not to 
fight battles that he cannot win.

I have never professed to be wise.  And, if I were not a fool I would not be
in this predicament  in the first place.  I simply refuse to have my love
bound by a seemingly biased force of which I cannot control.
bound by a seemingly biased force of which I cannot control.

****Would anyone care to add to, or complete, this thought?**********

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: userisra@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca (Mark Israel)
Subject: Re: Sanctity of relationships
Originator: lnds@zeus.biochem.ualberta.ca
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 08:24:43 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.151924.27508@u.washington.edu>, intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:

> Oh but dear boys, what about free will here?  You *can't* take anyone 
> away from somebody else.  Impossible.  This isn't the dark ages, you 
> know.  I am with who I am with purely from free choice.  There is no 
> way anyone could "woo me away" because I know what I want and I have it.

   That last statement does not apply to everyone.  Some people know they
want the ability to be wooed away and have *that*.

> The only way someone could be tempted away (or something like that) 
> would be in the case where the relationship was on rocky grounds anyway.

   Some people keep all their relationships on what you consider "rocky
grounds" and prefer it that way.

> Don't flatter yourselves, guys.  

   Why not?  I love being flattered by someone whose judgement I respect.
It's really flattering. 

userisra@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca		Mark Israel
Instinctive grammatical moralizer.
Xref: sparky alt.romance:6768 soc.singles:10695 soc.couples:1961
From: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,soc.couples
Subject: Re: Sanctity of relationships
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:29:32 GMT
Reply-To: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Followup-To: alt.romance
Distribution: usa
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Annapolis, MD

In soc.couples, intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:
>In article <CSUAT.92Apr8011953@lily.warwick.ac.uk> csuat@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Pet
>e "Ganders" Favelle) writes:
>>on 7 Apr 92 05:59:29 GMT,
>>rnjx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu said:
>>> The question is this.  Is it ever morally and/or ethically O.K. to actively
>>> try to woo one member of an existing relationship from that relationship so
>>> that you may start one with her/him?
>
>Oh but dear boys, what about free will here?  You *can't* take anyone away
>from somebody else.  Impossible.  This isn't the dark ages, you know.  I
>am with who I am with purely from free choice.  There is no way anyone
>could "woo me away" because I know what I want and I have it.

If it is a serious relationship that's involved, I believe that is is
ethically and morally wrong for me to intrude on the relationship.
It shows a serious lack of respect for the other guy involved.  As far
a marital relationships are concerned, many religious codes address
this (Thou shalt not covet they neightbor's wife . . .)  Now don't get
me wrong.  I'm not a bible thumper, but I do beleive inthe practicality
of moral codes here.  Some principles are needed to prevent social breakdowns
and in my humble opinion, this is one.

   /|/| /||)|/  /~_/\| |\|)[~|)/~_  |   Everyone's entitled to MY opinion.
  / | |/~||\|\  \_/\/|_|/|)[_|\\_/  |      goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil
========Imagination is more important than knowledge. - Albert Einstein=======
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: mctavish@zeus.UWaterloo.ca
Subject: Re: Who cut the Cheese?  the 70's file
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:01:28 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.224847.1258@bvc.edu> hansencarlaa@bvc.edu writes:
> remember these great 70's stuff. . .
> 
> 
Additional.....

Bee Gees ... Saturday Night Fever

Gino Vanelli ... " I just wannna stop ..."

Peter Frampton, Meatloaf , Boston

Pair of fuzzy dice in a camaro or trans am

One day at a time, Charlies Angels ... collector cards, Partridge Family  
collector cards.

bell bottoms, baggy pants

Star Wars, Jaws

North Star running shoes

Addidas "All Day I Dream About Sex"

Fast cars, fast motorcycles

Long hair

Cassette tapes

Dick Clark's New Year's Rockin Eve
From: aatresa@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Ed and Teresa (Carp ????)
Keywords: Let's mind our own business
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:13:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: lims01.13APR199217131405
Organization: Yeah, *right* !
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr12.172409.2574@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, hoff@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Wildfire) writes...
>>In article <1992Apr11.093743.10544@willamette.edu>, ppinkard@willamette.edu (Patrice Pinkard) writes...
>>>I think we should let Ed & Teresa work it out between the two of them.  What
>>>do you think?  It doesn't REALLY involve anyone other than E & T. 

>Besides....if they didn't want our help they would be doing this by email....
>(unless of course they already are, but that takes all the fun out of it!!)
> 
>				-Wildfire-

Besides, we *thought* we heard complaints about lack of romance.  :)

-- Teresa

		Life -- just for the FUN of it!!!!
From: SC687405@ysub.ysu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: brenda
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:30:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: ysub.92104.133031SC687405
Organization: Youngstown State University

talking about a romance is something that is sometimes best kept quiet.  But
if you really really love someone you might as well shout it out to the world.

about eight years ago I fell for a girl that was graduating a year ahead of me.

She left after graduation and went to California.  I lost track of her.  Alot
of things were left unsaid.  About a month ago I ran into her former best
friend and she told me that Brenda was now married with children(AL BUNDY #1)
I was bummed and depressed.  One week ago today I was leaving the lounge   in
Jones hall and the elevator opened and guess what?????   There she was-unbelie
vable!!!!!  Well we stopped and talked and talked and talked.
Problem #1-I still have alot of feelings for her!
Problem #2-She still has feelings for me
Problem #3-Her marriage isn't the picture of stability
Problem #4-My mom is freaking out that I"m even talking to her and is
           quoting the Bible way to much to me.
Problem #5-I keep seeing and meeting her-I'm probably screwing up any
           Chance she and her husband have of making their marriage
           work.
So now since no one here can offer any worthwhile advice -I turn to the
net for some response be it bizarre or not.

Post or send it doesn't really matter.

Dave
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Subject: Re: a question
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Lessee ... I had it here a minute ago ...
Date:  6 Apr 1992 11:45 EST  

In article <6APR199211413025@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov>, afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison) writes...

Damn, I *hate* it when I follow-up my own followups ...

>{I can't* resist ...}
> 
>In article <1992Apr6.103113.1@stat.appstate.edu>, grs01153@stat.appstate.edu 
>writes...
>>What exactlty constitutes 'cheatin' on someone?
> 
> 
>Well, depending on the context, either an ace up your sleeve or a queen up 
>your pant leg. :-) :-)
> 

(...and don't think I didn't already consider *and* reject the Jack-In-The-Box 
 joke.  It was too tasteless even for *me*... oops.)

-- Stephen 

(The only two valid e-mail addresses from now on are ...)
afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov,  afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov
.. boring .sig follows, press n to skip it.

		Love shares at least *one* common trait with the Great
		White Shark. When it *stops* moving forward, it dies.
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From: erc@pogo.Corp.Sun.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Ed and Teresa
Date: 10 Apr 92 23:25:04 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: pogo.corp.sun.com

In article <10APR199208131278@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> aatresa@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline) writes:

>Better m/g and reread the last week or so, Ed.  Apparently you missed it.  
>Boy, I thought you paid special attention to anything with my name on it.  

I do ... when I can get access to it!  My nntp posting machine won't let me
anywhere the spool directories, so I can't grep for your name :(  So, I have
to read the messages as they come ... and with ~70 messages per day being posted,
it gets difficult to read every single thing posted...:(
--
Ed Carp                                      415/336-0797 (work)

++ UNIX  SysAdmin, Systems  Programming  Services,  Utilities ++
++ and Programmer Productivity Tools                          ++
From: lm89@ecs.soton.ac.uk (McIlhoney L)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: More on Swedish courtship customs
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:19:08 GMT


You must make her choose between you very very soon.  Two-timing can
only lead to no good eventually.

_You_ will not be breaking up the couple if she leaves him for you,
it is _her_ responsibility.

But it would be very irresponsible of the two of you to carry on like
this.  The truth will out eventually, and when it does things will
get ugly anyway.

The alternative is to walk away, I suppose, and wait until she does
leave him (or not) which is the same as above, I guess.

BUT!!!  You must leave it up to her.

Loz  (admittedly no expert - just talking from the heart).
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: charon@diana.cair.du.edu (Chuck Haron)
Subject: Idle Thoughts
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 21:55:36 GMT

Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Idle Thoughts
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Keywords: 

Idle Thought:

Is her heart so consumed with another man, as to have no room for me? Tell
me my dear friend, how do I correct the folly of my ways, and win the haert 
of the woman I love?  Say not that there is know way, for I do not trust the
hand of Fate.   Fate has dealt Her a cruel had, and I will not let that hand
touch THIS love!!

Friend: Ahh!! But only a fool would fight Fate.  A wise man knows not to 
fight battles that he cannot win.

I have never professed to be wise.  And, if I were not a fool I would not be
in this predicament  in the first place.  I simply refuse to have my love
bound by a seemingly biased force of which I cannot control.
bound by a seemingly biased force of which I cannot control.

****Would anyone care to add to, or complete, this thought?**********

Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.couples,soc.singles
From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Subject: Re: lying to oneself
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher
Distribution: world,soc
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 15:39:51 GMT

robd@cray.com (Robert Derrick) writes:

] As for gory details, I'd like to know of one, True, instance, gory or
] no.  

Hello, Robert

No, I don't think I'm Melony, but I do have an example for you.
The prime, classic example of a human's ability to lie to
themselves is the alcoholic who goes into a bar and says 
that they can have one beer/drink and leave.

My ex was a walking testament to this ability.  His drinking
in itself was not the cause of my finally getting tired of
the situation - it was his lying to me - AND to himself.  He
would go to do something - like go to the grocery store - and
wouldn't come back - I'd find him at his favorite bar.  Or
he'd SAY he was going to the bar for whatever reason - he
worked at a bar, so for example he'd say he was going to 
pick up his paycheck - and he'd say that he'd just be there
for that reason, then he'd leave.  Of course - he never did
"just go in then leave".  However, I still think that when
he left the house he truly thought he could do just that -
walk into the bar, pick up his check and walk out...If he'd
been honest with himself, he'd have known that there was
no way he would do that.

Diana
From: michael@gandalf.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Haardt)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: *smile*
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:45:24 GMT
Reply-To: u31b3hs@messua.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Haardt)
Organization: Gandalf - a 386-20 machine

From article <1992Apr6.215813.12313@athena.mit.edu>, by gandalf! (Arielle):
> Hello, dears. ;)
Welcome to alt.romance :-)

> 	I'm rather new at this and have just been reading through
> the previous zillion posts.  This is a wonderful idea, and a great
> support group.  A huge, warm hug to each and every one of you.
Thanks, a friendly warm *hug* to you too.  It is wonderful to read
this group after all the bug reports, bug fixes, bug fix bug reports;
and I think I learned a few things from this group too.

> 	What love songs, poems, quotes, stories, faerie tales, etc.
> do you think best epitomize real love?  As in forever-love?  I like
> REM's "You Are the Everything."
I recently send a letter on a tape to my SO :)  I can highly recommend
that, it is much work, but worth the efforts.  I mixed the letter with
some of my favourite music to create a harmonic mixture.  The melody
"Morgenstimmung" (German, "mood of a morning" in English?) by Edvard
Grieg is wonderful.  I also like harp music from Andreas Vollenweider.

> 	Oh, did anyone else love "Beauty and the Beast"?  *wistful smile*
Oh yes ...

> For those of you who are afraid you're nerds doomed to being single forever,
> please take my word for it.. there's no such thing as a nerd in real life.
> Not really.  That's a stereotype.  If you are a man, if you are a woman,
> you are completely capable of giving and receiving love.  And soon enough,
> some one will be lucky enough to realize it.  It's only a matter of reaching
> out and letting go a little of your fears.  Just a little.  There's a whole
> world of people out there who want to love you just as much as you want to
> love them.  You're not alone.. never alone.. we're with you.

You are right.  It may take some time, but in the end you will find
someone.  I nearly lost hope and now it is only 5 days until I meet my
net.love and we will spend a month together. *happy smile*

Michael
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: aatresa@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline)
Subject: Re: Ed and Teresa
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Yeah, *right* !
Date: 10 Apr 1992 08:13 EST  

In article <ku9rhlINNfok@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, erc@pogo.Corp.Sun.COM (Ed Carp) writes...
>In article <9APR199208342801@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> aatresa@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr9.022834.25112@leland.Stanford.EDU>, rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft) writes...
> 
>>>Ed and Teresa flirt on the net.  Teresa finally calls Ed's bluff and
>>>tells him to ask her out.  Ed wimps out.  
> 
>>That about covers it...:(
> 
>Hey!!!  Wait a minute!!!  WHEN did you ask me out on the net???????

Better m/g and reread the last week or so, Ed.  Apparently you missed it.  
Boy, I thought you paid special attention to anything with my name on it.  
Ignore my last post...you actually never did answer me, you answered a 
*gentleman* from Australia when he said *he'd* take me instead.  Now if I 
could only remember his name....I've got it here somewhere.....

-- Teresa

		Life -- just for the FUN of it!!!!
From: aatresa@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: It's Whine Time Again...
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:06:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: lims01.7APR199208064900
Organization: Yeah, *right* !
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr6.221435.9276@u.washington.edu>, hevern@u.washington.edu (M. Hevern) writes...
>> I've been waiting for *this* one.  Simply because *I* think that we are mis
>> -using the term "nerd".  According to Mr. Webster a nerd *is* a jerk!  
>                   ^^^^
>How about "Geek"? Or as my dad likes to introduce me to his friends "My son the Computer Dweeb".
> 
>Does Mr. Webster have anything to say about that? (I'm to lazy to look(: )

Sure does, Michael!

Geek - a carnival performer often billed as a wild man whose act usually 
includes biting the head off a live chicken or snake

Do you qualify???

No dweeb in my dictionary.  Interesting, huh?

-- Teresa

		Life -- just for the FUN of it!!!!
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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,soc.couples
Subject: Re: Do You Remember - early '60s edition
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:50:50 GMT
Followup-To: alt.romance
Distribution: usa
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Apr15.191857.8294@cbfsb.cb.att.com> joni@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (joni.dunlap) writes:
>
>>And of course the ultimate toy from the 60's:  Triumphs!!
>>
>
>What are Triumphs ?
 
A Triumphs is either motorcycle or a car.  Both are pretty neat toys.

>
>what about spider bikes with sissy bars and banana seats ?
>
I had the neatest bike back then.  It had a four foot sissy bar and butterfly
handlebars with purple handlebar tape.  The banana seat was mettalic purple
and was connected to the sissy bar with springs.  The forks were extended 
about 9". What a bike. 

-- 
+=============================================================================+
| John Fereira                Al Bundy for President          
| johnf@auspex.com         "He's as good as the next guy"                     |
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