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From: grubin@virga.ucar.edu (Rick Grubin)
Subject: Re: UK-Texas Western (was: Another All-Time team
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.college
Organization: Research Applications Program/NCAR, Boulder, CO
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:21:39 GMT



jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>	Dampier was a legendary long-range shooter, from what I recall in
>	his old ABA days.  He hit something like 37% -- from ABA 3-pt
>	range, which was something like 27 feet

The ABA 3pt line was never anything like 27 feet.  It was much like
what you see in the NBA today, as that is where the NBA grabbed it
from after the merger.  Granted, shooters like Dampier and Ron Boone
and Bird Averitt (etc. etc.) shot rather well from the 3pt line, but
it was never from 27 feet (more like 23' 9" or so).

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From: madera@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Gangster)
Subject: Illini Recruiting News: Hamilton to sign...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:28:42 GMT

Word is 7'(fill in the blank)" 3(make last 2 digits greater than 25) pound
Chicago King center-forward Thomas Hamilton will announce he will attend
Illinois and perhaps sign by the end of the signing period...

I'll leave thoughts to others...  =)

--
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============================================================================
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 what if we're up there when it's the pilot's time...?" - Robin Harris
From: curtis@optima.UUCP (Curtis E. Dyreson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: An Outrage
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:54:29 GMT

From article <matthew.722040336@base.cs.ucla.edu>, by matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher):
> The UPI and AP polls came out, and Utah wasn't on either list.
> What *could* they pollsters have been thinking?
> --

Really Matthew, aren't you forgetting the poll quotas brought to you 
by the evil ECMB?  Just to reiterate

Grouping        Teams in Top-25
Big-10               10-12
Pac-10                1-2
Notre Dame/Depaul       3
Big-West(UNLV)          1
Big-West(nonUNLV)       0
Big-8                   ?  (Varies due to phantom probations in pollsters minds)
Big East              4-5  (Even though it's like watching paint dry, it happens
                            to be Eastern paint) 
Big Sky             Get Real
WAC                     1

Doesn't matter if Josh Grant is godlike, the WAC quota has been filled by BYU.

Curtis Dyreson
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Raucous crowds 
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:37:59 GMT

gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris) writes:

>	Which "R" word, raucous or risible?  The crowd is certainly raucous,
>and it is fairly amusing to note that, indeed (especially with his old 'do),
>David Rivers bears a passing resemblance to Buckwheat.

>	Rivers was never offended and fairly amused by the cheer.  So why 
>shoudl you be offended?


	However, I do remember there was some ACC crowd -- I believe it was
	at Cameron, that did some things rather uncalled for to opposing players.
	For instance, Maryland once had a player named Herman Veal, who was 
	involved in some sort of sex scandal or other.  When he visited the
	opposing stadium (again, I can't remember if it was Cameron or not),
	the fans waved female underwear at him.  There was also an incident
	involving pizza boxes, but I can't remember who it involved.

	Not to say that it's just the ACC -- the SEC has had some pretty
	rowdy crowds over the years.  For instance, when UK was under
	investigation back in the 88-89 season, whenever they would visit
	an opposing arena, the fans would wave ACT bulletings (in reference
	to Eric Manual) and throw Emery packages onto the floor.  I also
	remember when Dwayne Schintzius once got into trouble for hitting
	a guy over the head w/ a tennis racket.  At the Florida/Vandy
	game, the fans threw tennis balls onto the court!  A technical foul
\	was called, and if I remember correctly, it ended up being crucial
	in the contest.

	Jazzy J
s
>--
>gharris@jade.tufts.edu          
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>Dept. of Mathematics            
>Tufts University              			The Conversation  
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From: jbhuber@iastate.edu (Joseph B Huber)
Subject: Re: Big Ten News
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:50:18 GMT

In article <BxvLvz.HE4@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy
Peppler) writes:
>
>	It was Rose-Hulman.  Well, the way I interpreted the article in
>	the paper was that the team Illinois played was the team that
>	walked off the court at R-H, but was not the one the Illini were
>	originally supposed to play (hell, my schedule says "Russian
>	National Team"!!!.  These guys weren't that!).  I'll try to dig
>	it up again and doublecheck...
>

An almost similar incident happened at Iowa State last year while the Cyclones
were playing the Ukraine National team. This game was stopped for a few
minutes as the Ukraine coach pulled his players off the floor and (as I
understand it) threatened to forfeit because of poor officiating. He returned
his players to the floor, but trashed the officials in his post game comments.

The Ukraine players, while on offense, were constantly trying to force their
way through the ISU defenders and were being called for many player control
fouls. The Ukraine coach was not pleased.

-- 
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(jbhuber@iastate.edu)        | Capt. James T. Kirk on the 2nd law of thermo: 
Dept. of Mech. Egr.          |  "It's not a hundred percent efficient,
Iowa State University        |   but nothing ever is."
From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Preseason Women's Top 25 - opinion.
Keywords: tiguzz
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:31:46 GMT
Organization: .

(Core, Andrew) writes:
>>After analysis - here's my top 25 preseason women's poll :
>>#1 Stanford
>>2. Vanderbilt
>>3. Iowa
>>4. Tennessee
>
>Don't forget, Tennessee wins the national championship in odd years - 1987,
>1989, 1991.  Unfortunately, senior point guard Jody Adams suffered a season
>ending knee injury last week.  Look for Tiffany Woosley to step up and start.
>
>>16 Mississippi
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>That makes 6 SEC teams in the top 20 - half of the conference!

No mention of Sue Gunther's Lady Bengal Tigers? :(

--J.J.
From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UK-Texas Western (was: Another All-Time team
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:16:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxxC3o.MHG
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

timlin@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Timlin) writes:

>Both Liberty and Small were listed at 6'8".  Although neither started 
>regularly, both played a lot of minutes.  I really don't think that
>team should be considered small with a starting backcourt of 6'6" and
>6'4" and first guard off the bench 6'4".  What was interesting was
>that everyone (on scholarship) except ??? (from Parkland) was 6'6"
>give or take 2".

	Liberty was listed at 6'8", but he was really more like 6'7".
	I don't think Small was listed as anything but 6'7" -- at least
	that's what the media guide listed him at in his senior year.
	I will agree with U that the big backcourt did certainly make a
	difference, however.  Usually Gill would stay back as a safety,
	and they'd send Bardo to crash the offensive boards along w/ 
	everyone else for extra rebounding.  The Illini often outrebounded
	much taller opponents due to this method.

>I can't seem to remember his name right now but he was 5'10".

	You're thinking of PJ Bowman (wore #10).  He played bit roles,
	and sometimes would come off the bench for offense & 3-pt shooting
	(like the Iowa game that season).

	Jazzy J

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From: foerster@zman.rtp.dg.com (Mike Von Foerster)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: WANTED: Recruiting class rankings
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:16:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: dg-rtp.1992Nov16.121626.29068
Reply-To: foerster@dg-rtp.dg.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Data General Corp., Research Triangle Park, NC

In article <Bxq0FB.FnD@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, wlmg3055@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William L. Myers) writes:

[stuff deleted]

|> 
|> Gibbons 'projected recruiting class rankings' published by a paper last wk.
|> 
|> 1 Kansas.  Jacque Vaughn (8), 6-10 Scott Pollard (34), 6-11 Nick Proud (39)
|> 	, 6-8 B.J. Williams (86)

Bob Gibbons is the only one I've seen who even has Proud ranked.

|> 
|> 2 Duke.  6-11 Greg Newton (5), 6-10 Joey Beard (9), 6-4 PG Jeff Capel (23)

What about Carmen Wallace. He's not ranked in the "top 100" but Duke doesn't
usually recruit dog meat.

|> 
|> 3 LSU  Randy Livingston (1), 6-4 Ronnie Henderson (7), [allegedly hottest
|> 	backcourt every recruited (until next year)], 6-9 Jerald Honeycutt
|> 	(20) is likely.
|> 
|> 4 N. Carolina  6-6 J. Stackhouse (3), 6-4 Pg Jeff McInnis (12).

They're getting what they need. Someone who can play inside/outside and someone
who can shoot.

|> 
|> 5 Indiana  6-4 G Sherron Wilkerson (22), 7-0 R. Mandeville (40), 6-10 
|> 	Robbie Eggers (45), 6-3 pg Foster.

I didn't know Robert Foster had committed to IU but I do know that
Monte Marcaccini has. He's rated #67 by Gibbons. If Foster committed to IU
that's 3 players from California that have committed to IU. Thank you,
Joe Hillman.

With IU's recruits and USC's and California's good recruiting year that's 
got to put Jim Harrick on the hot seat.


|> 
|> 6 S. California  6-4 g Stais Bosemann (33), 6-6 Jaha Wilson (60), expecting
|> 	6-10 Avondre Jones (14)
|> 

[rest deleted]

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From: n9ljx@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Scott A Stembaugh)
Subject: Re: Usenet Flames
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 22:55:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.192008.18244@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.180856.19459@u.washington.edu> crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>>
>>Hey, I got you all beat.  At 6'0 and 295 lbs, I can be the bench.
>
>Ooooooh, can I be the other team's bench, please?! (6'0" 290)
>
>grin
>
>>
>>Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 
>
>Kevin
>

	You guys are starting to worry me. We are talking about MENS bball,
	right?

--sas

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From: jlindqui@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (A Professional Tom Wopat Impersonator)
Subject: Re: FAB FIVE is back in Ann Arbor
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:46:15 GMT

oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:

>In article <Bxo6uM.91p@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )  
>writes:

>> 	About the only person besides Webber that had a non-kines major
>> 	was James Voskuil, who is a mechanical engineering major (and has
>> 	an e-mail address too!)

>Maybe we can get him to post...

Mech E?  How does he afford the time!  I'm double-E at Illinois and had to
forgo continuing my high school stats job into college because my class
schedule just wouldn't afford the time.  It'd take me six-seven years to get
out of here.  I'd like to know how Voskuil manages it.

Or is Engineering another way that Illinois blows out Michigan?
(Football being an exception.  The definition of "miracle" in Champaign is
now "nine fumbles"... >:-)  )

-- 
Jason A. Lindquist		University of Illinois at Champaign-Urbana

   linky@uiuc.edu		     "I jam, therefore I am."
						-- S. Pippen
From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: All-time Duke team poll: Results
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:54:22 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

In article <4306@cvbnetPrime.COM> csroc@dime.UUCP (Charles Sroczynski x4014 5-2) writes:
>> >        G -- Danny Hurley -- 16(8) -- unanaminous choice
>>
>>That's impossible since he's playing at Seton Hall. 
>>
>>You mean BOBBY Hurley.
>
>You've got to excuse
>a little ignorance
>when you're dealing
>with Duke (a basket_weaving) University
>graduates.

	Or at least New England basketball fans, like the poster of the above.
Seems he failed to realize ol' Jazzy J is a Wildcat & Illini man from way 
back.

	Maybe surgery can correct his problem.  Science has made wonderful pro
gress.

--
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From: orourke@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Michael O'Rourke)
Subject: KU Intrasquad Scrimmage
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:56:06 GMT

Some stats from a recent KU intrasquad scrimmage, for those who are
interested:  

-- Richard Scott:  30 pts. on 11-16 shooting from the field, all in
	the paint (+ 8 free throws!)

-- Rex Walters:  29 pts.

-- Greg Ostertag:  21 pts., 12 rbds.

-- Steve Woodberry:  19 pts., 7 assts.

-- Adonis Jordan:  9 assts.

And, for those who wish to think about what could have been:

-- Ben Davis:  22 pts., 8 rbds.


No final score and no other stats to report, I'm afraid.  Apparently
no defense to report either, for that matter.


Rock Chalk
orourke@csli.stanford.edu
From: n8843528@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Chris M. Jacques)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Loyola Marymount
Summary: Loyola Marymount
Date: 20 Nov 92 23:19:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Nov20.231918.6629
Organization: Western Washington University


	I hear LMU has a new coach (Olive) that was an assistant with Rollie
Massimino at Villanova. Does that mean the Lions are scrapping their frenzy
run-and-gun offense for a slower Big-East style that plays defense. 

	Interesting matchup set up for December 1. UNLV plays at Loyola
Marymount. Of course it showcases Rollie versus his former assistant. Also
this is a rematch of the game that knocked Loyola Marymount out of the Final
$ Four in 1990.
From: elliott@majestix.cs.uoregon.edu (Elliott E. Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: TV Coverage of Alaska Shootout (Was Re: Big Ten Update (11-23-92))
Keywords: Big Ten
Date: 24 Nov 92 00:18:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Nov24.001812.12212
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.

In article <722558877@stego.cs.duke.edu> rws@duke.cs.duke.edu (Ronnie W. Smith) writes:
>In article <By6v5K.LHs@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:
>>
>>	Illinois (0-0) vs. Dayton (0-0) (First round of Great Alaska Shootout;
>>	I think only one semifinal and the final, 11 pm CST on Sunday, will be
>>	televised by ESPN.  The preseason NIT and the Maui Classic sort of
>>	wiped this tournament out.  The tourney runs from Wednesday to
>>	Sunday, apparently)
>
>Actually, I think both semis are to be shown, but no first round games.  I'm
>hoping so anyway so I can see a little more Vandy hoops this year, assuming
>they get past UAB.  I think the Vandy-UAB winner and Illinois and New Mexico
>St. would be the favorites.  Is Oregon any good?
>

What's this Great Alaska Shootout?  The Oregon schedule says
Great Alaska Shootout at Anchorage and the teams are Tennessee-Chattanooga,
New Mexico St., Alaska-Anchorage, and Oregon.  Are there other teams too?

-- 
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From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Subject: Re: Women's Basketball?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:43:00 GMT

In article <BxxrzH.8yE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> sms35849@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott M. Stortzum) writes:
>
>Later days, and cheers to Lou Henson for bringing in a top 10
>recruiting class like he promised!!

	Did you see the film clip of 7'2" Thomas Hamilton on the news
	last night?  He will redefine the term "Round Mound of Rebound".
	A heavy dude, to say the least.  Rashard Griffith looked positively
	stick-like in comparison.  Lou has promised that this guy will
	either live by the rules or be a gonner...  In a way, I'm sort
	of disappointed that Lou signed the guy.  I think he's of
	questionable worth, unless he shapes up physically and mentally.
	Lou could have saved the scholarship for next year...

	Both Hamilton and Garris have yet to meet ACT requirements...
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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: 30 sec. clock, 6 fouls, 128 team tourny.
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:16:33 GMT

In article <XJAM.92Nov14123254@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU> xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU  
(The Crossjammer) writes:
> >>>>> "Orin" == Orin Day <oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov> writes:
> 
>   Orin> In article <97632@netnews.upenn.edu> rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Rich  
Kulawiec)  
>   Orin> writes:
> 
> > I preferred the game with no shot clock: I think it was much more
> > exciting than the repetitive run-and-gun which a shot clock encourages.
> 
>   Orin> Like 12-11 Duke/UNC games where teams hold the ball at
>   Orin>  half-court for hours? I think not.
> 
> That was a great game. Why? Because it was tense the whole way. You just
> didn't know if Deano was going to keep the lid on or turn on the offense at
> any given moment. I was also waiting breathlessly for UNC to screw up.
> Bottom line is that the Tar Heels did have to execute and Duke was actively
> out there trying to stop them.

Maybe after a whole season of these affairs you'd change your mind...this
game was great because it was unique.  Another wouldn't be so great.  Let's
recruit great athletes so they can take only one shot per game.  Between
them.

> Nowadays, the first half doesn't even mean much anymore. If a team is
> within 20 at the half they've got a shot. This is great for making blowouts
> somewhat entertaining, but the first half has become a void. I think the
> NCAA is fast approaching the NBA; Just show up for the last 10 minutes if
> you really want to know what happens.

Given the five foul rule, shallower benches, and lesser endurance of
college players, I disagree with this assessment. 

>   Orin> In my opinion, the three point shot has made winning possible again
>   Orin> for teams that don't get the tallest or most athletic players, and
> 
> I do agree here. The 3 point shot has put smaller guys back into the
> picture. And partly because these quick 5'7-6'4 outside shooters are a dime
> a dozen, coaches have sort of gone overboard with the run it down and jack
> it up philosophy. Maybe I'm just suffering from nostalgia, but half court
> execution is getting worse and worse each year, and turnovers are going up
> and up. But on the whole, it's a net win.

Largely because the teams with good defenses continue to win.

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From: terry@leland.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong)
Subject: Re: Lots of minutes
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 06:58:08 GMT

In article <Bxtzv5.DLs@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
|> 
|> 	Something I've noticed in the early season is that the starters
|> 	are getting a lot of minutes.  In fact, I noticed in the paper
|> 	the other day that players like Mullin, Jordan, Pippen, etc. were
|> 	all averaging way over 40 minutes a game.  Is there a reason for
|> 	this?

You are definitely right about Mullin's minutes.  Mullin has played much
more than 40 minutes a game.  Part of this is mitigated by the fact that
the Warriors played in one OT game and one double OT game.  In the double
OT game, Mullin played 55 minutes.  

Mullin was the NBA leader in total minutes last year (3346 minutes in
81 games, 41.3 minutes per game), and he was really pooped out at
the end of the season.  One of the Warriors' goals this season has been
to reduce Mullin's minutes but so far this has not happened.  A large
reason for this is that there are a lot of new players on the Warriors
and Nelson doesn't have full confidence in them yet.

				terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU
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From: rbd@flash.ece.uc.edu (Bobby Davis)
Subject: Hot Plate Williams
Organization: University of Cincinnati, ECE Dept
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:05:25 GMT

In article <6986@dove.nist.gov> hira@cme.nist.gov writes:
>I did get to see Fatso Williams who's getting lots of minutes for the Clips.
>Fatso has been playing center because Stanley Roberts is so out of shape...

Ron, keep up the great work!  Fatso playing because someone ELSE is out of
shape is the funniest thing I've heard in weeks!  Truth really is stranger
than fiction sometimes, isn't it?

Bob "The Glide" Davis
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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: John Starks
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:49:50 GMT

In article <1ejcrqINN7sf@network.ucsd.edu> rand@muttley.ucsd.edu (Rand Steiger) writes:
>It was an extremely ugly game, and made three points very clear:
>
>1> Rolando Blackman is weeks away from getting his timing back
>
>2> The Knicks have a long way to go before they function as a team
>
>3> They probably will not win consistantly unless they get a top notch point 
>Guard!
>
>It was a demoralizing game for this long time Knick fan.
>

I think the Knicks are going to get to where they need to be.  Look for
Rolando to have his ups and his downs because of age and new  surround-
ings, but his role (as I see it) is to be a mentor to Hubert Davis  who
is our "gunslinger of the future".  Admittedly,  we have some coordina-
tion problems which led to a stink-o west coast swing, but I don't  see
us as being on the critical list just yet.  BTW, Doc Rivers ain't chop-
ped liver!
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