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From: ptownson@eecs.nwu.edu (Patrick A. Townson)
Subject: Re: This Time Around, DON'T VOTE !!
Organization: None
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:43:39 GMT


In article <ld9c5bINNdi4@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.
Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:

> In article <1992Oct8.054734.18971@eecs.nwu.edu> ptownson@eecs.nwu.edu 
> (Patrick A. Townson) writes:

>> Lesbian and gay people are generally intelligent. 

> This is a bit patronizing, don't you think?

> I wasn't aware that there was any documented correlation between
> intelligence and sexual orientation.  I strongly suspect that lesbian
> and gay people are neither more nor less intelligent than the
> population at large.

No, I don't think it is patronizing at all. Maybe I should have
inserted the phrase /of my aquaintance/ into the sentence ... maybe I
should have also added some qualifier in the sentence correlating
intelligence and creativeness. All of us can only speak from our own
experiences of course, but I don't think I've ever met a gay person
who was stupid ... there are some I do not like ... but none who lack
the ability to express themselves quite well and think independently
on issues. I've met plenty of heterosexuals who were dim-witted and
lacking the brains that God gave a goose.  Again, all I can speak
about is my own circle of aquaintences, co-workers, neighbors, etc.

In a message a couple years ago, I wrote something on the theme 'why
do some gay people think they are so special and different?' and I
caught hell then for suggesting basically what you are saying -- that
the only thing which makes homosexuals and heterosexuals different is
what they choose to do sexually. I think we were talking about some
notorious sex killer or something ... I guess it only makes sense that
when I now say I think gay people in their general lifestyles and
interests are a cut above many or most heterosexuals that there would
be criticism of that remark also.

REMEMBER: Above all, do not patronize the politicians and their
cronies in government ... STAY AWAY from the polls next month.
Instead, contact them and suggest they perform an anatomically
impossible act upon themselves, and DO NOT VOTE!


PAT


Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: paul@xcluud.sccsi.com (Paul Hutmacher)
Subject: Re: This Time Around, DON'T VOTE !!
Organization: Greater Montrose UFO Appreciation Society & Data Haven
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 15:44:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.054544.7370@eecs.nwu.edu> ptownson@eecs.nwu.edu (Patrick A. Townson) writes:
>Clinton will change nothing; Bush will change nothing; Perot might
>make a few changes, not necessarily for the better ... 

On the contrary, the more I watch Perot the more I think he's going to clean
house if elected.  I'm going to keep a close eye on all the candidates for the
next few weeks and then cast my vote.  To not vote is to not make a stand.
You might as well bury your head in the sand.

Keep an eye on Perot.  I'm not completely convinced myself but I like what I
heard on ABC last night.  From what I gather the man in not a politition but 
more on the lines of a patriot.

We need patriots who will stand strong in the manner of our founding fathers.


-- 
Paul Hutmacher
paul@xcluud.sccsi.com
{lobster,nuchat}!xcluud!paul
From: mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: United States BORN NOVEMBER 15, 1777
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:12:35 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire




                      UNITED STATES BORN NOVEMBER 15, 1777

               Most people, including Astrologers, believe that the 
          United States was born on July 4, 1776.  But the Declaration 
          of Independence did NOT create a "union" of any kind.  It 
          created thirteen independent colonies, independent from Great 
          Britain AND INDEPENDENT FROM EACH OTHER. 

               What DID create the United States was the signing of the 
          ARTICLES OF CONFEDERATION.  And this occurred in YORKTOWN, 
          PENNSYLVANIA on NOVEMBER 15, 1777. 
          
               And THAT is the date that must also be used for CORRECT 
          Astrological considerations of the birth of the United 
          States. 
          
               NOVEMBER 15TH should be made another NATIONAL HOLIDAY! 


               UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this 
          IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED. 
          
                                          
                                   Robert E. McElwaine
From: wells@athena.cs.uga.edu (Scott Wells)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Demosthenian Society Alumni
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:07:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

This is just a basic appeal to former members and alumni of the
Demosthenian Society. If you are one, or know one, please e-mail me. I
would like to know how many Demosthenians there are on the net,
particularly since there has been such a breakdown in communication
between the Society and its alumni. Also, please let me know if you
are getting the annual _Beyond the Lecturn._

To non-Demosthenians: The Demosthenian Society, at the University of
Georgia, is the South's oldest college debating society (founded
1803); it has produced many great thinkers and speakers for Georgia and the
world.

So there.

Scott Wells
Demosthenian Society


 
-- 
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Internet: wells@athena.cs.uga.edu  + 
University of Georgia		   +
Athens, Georgia, USA               +
From: christin@cae.wisc.edu (Christine Haas)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: For My Brother
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:14:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering

Hi,

I am posting this for my brother who is looking for a female
with which to correspond by U.S. mail (he does not have computer
access.)

He is 29 years old, brown hair, brown eyes, 6' tall, and being
his little sister, I have no clue how much he weighs.  

He wants to write letters to someone on the basis of a friendship.

If you are interested, please e-mail me and I will tell you more
and give you his address.

Thanks.

Chris.  :)
From: cschmidt@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Christopher Schmidt)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Byte Magazine
Date: 13 Oct 92 02:37:26 GMT
Reply-To: cschmidt@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Christopher Schmidt)
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA

You can now add Byte Magazine to your list of contemptible businesses
that use the telephone to pester folks at home in the evening with
unsolicited sales calls.  Byte called me at home a few days ago around
7:30 pm, wanting me to buy a subscription.  I told the caller he ought
to be ashamed of himself, but he stood his ground, using the idiotic
"some people are glad we call" argument.

Christopher Schmidt
Waltham, Massachusetts, USA
cschmidt@lynx.northeastern.edu
Xref: sparky misc.misc:3527 rec.mag:219 alt.zines:144
From: Phil.Powell@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Phil Powell)
Newsgroups: misc.misc,rec.mag,alt.zines
Subject: Help on Getting a Grant
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:19:26 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service


I am interested in obtaining a minority grant for my magazine.  Is it
possible and if so, what steps do I need to take to insure my getting one?
Thanx

Phil

--
   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
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Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: af905@yfn.ysu.edu (Ed Shanks)
Subject: Re: Japanese Tourists ate my building.
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:23:21 GMT


Did you also know that books are NOT  ENtitled - they are titled?
Listen to how many psuedo-intellectuals make that mistake!
-- 
       Ed Shanks      af905@yfn.ysu.edu
       Sr. Firefighter (and lots of other titles, as well!)
       Boardman Fire Dept.    Boardman, Ohio
       "It's not just an adventure, its a job!"
Xref: sparky misc.misc:3476 talk.politics.misc:50396 alt.flame:13394
From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: misc.misc,talk.politics.misc,alt.flame
Subject: Re: This Time Around, DON'T VOTE !!
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:05:31 GMT
Followup-To: misc.misc,talk.politics.misc,alt.flame
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Menlo park, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: purplehaze.corp.sun.com



In article <1992Oct8.054734.18971@eecs.nwu.edu> ptownson@eecs.nwu.edu 
(Patrick A. Townson) writes:

>Lesbian and gay people are generally intelligent. 


This is a bit patronizing, don't you think?

I wasn't aware that there was any documented correlation between intelligence
and sexual orientation.  I strongly suspect that lesbian and gay people are
neither more nor less intelligent than the population at large.



Geoff


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Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: n36ia@pnet16.cts.com (Et3 Francis)
Subject: Keith Ingertson
Organization: People-Net [pnet16], NCTAMS EASTPAC
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 13:16:11 GMT

I'm not sure if this will work but what the heck... If anyone knows Keith(He
lives in or around the Los Angeles area and has a cousin named Jason Heinkal.
Please have him get in touch with me or my family.

TOP SECRET .sig (sorry you don't have the clearance neccessary to see it)

UUCP: humu!nctams1!pnet16!n36ia
ARPA: humu!nctams1!pnet16!n36ia@nosc.mil
INET: n36ia@pnet16.cts.com
From: Jim.Davies@comlab.ox.ac.uk (A Wooden Fish on Wheels)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Re: MadhatterDay VII
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:04:13 GMT
	<1992Oct7.100559.9311@vax.oxford.ac.uk>
Followup-To: misc.misc
Organization: Foundations for the Laboratory of Computer Science, Oxford
In-reply-to: reese@vax.oxford.ac.uk's message of 7 Oct 92 10:05:59 BST


In article <...> reese@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:

   In article <...>, mjd@saul.cis.upenn.edu ("[*] Angel of Wheaties") writes:
   > 
   >

   *plonk*

   Jason

*plonker*

Jim

  --> decision making apparatus won't survive your death
                                       <robyn hitchcock> 
--
Newsgroups: misc.misc,talk.politics.misc
From: pa_ross@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Mr Rossy)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Re: How long has it been?
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:25:27 GMT
Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol

>>   How long has it been since you were kissed by a member of
>>   the opposite sex?

Are we talking pecks on cheeks or "Tongue Sandwiches" ?

					 Paul
					=----=
Newsgroups: misc.misc,talk.politics.misc
From: bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw)
Subject: Re: This Time Around, DON'T VOTE !!
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: usa 
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:11:24 GMT

In <farenebt.718397895@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri Farenell ("Droopy")) writes:

>ptownson@eecs.nwu.edu (Patrick Townson) writes:

>>This time around, tell them to shove it.  DO NOT BOTHER TO VOTE AT ALL.
>>NOT EVEN FOR DOG CATCHER IF YOUR COMMUNITY VOTES FOR ANIMAL CONTROL
>>OFFICER. 

>Well, then I expect you to suffer through the next 2/4 years 
>without bitching even once about the president or the Congress.
>Right?!

>>It might be different if our votes *really* meant anything ... but
>>they do not. It might be different if our votes were sacred; if the
>>will of the people in the USA was really what detirmined how we are
>>governed ... but they are not.

>They don't mean anything because such a pathetic percentage of the
>people vote. Officials represent the electorate. If only 51% of
>the people vote, then they will only be representing 51% of
>the opinions.

>>Why are so few people bothering to register and vote? I think the
>>answer is simple: People are finally beginning to wise up to the fact
>>that VOTING IS A WASTE OF TIME and an attempt by the government to
>>HUMOR the citizens and make them think their opinion matters on
>>anything.

Sorry to disappoint you, but around here there are more people
registering than last time round :-), and I don't imagine that
they are doing it so they can sit at home and bitch.

I know that I'll be there when they open the doors. It may only
be one vote, but that's all they gave me.

Bob.

Xref: sparky misc.misc:3491 talk.politics.misc:50682 alt.flame:13448
From: mstaben@comtch.spk.wa.us (Matthew Staben)
Newsgroups: misc.misc,talk.politics.misc,alt.flame
Subject: Re: This Time Around, DON'T VOTE !!
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:48:39 GMT
Organization: Waffle BBS at CompuTech Spokane, Washington

ptownson@eecs.nwu.edu (Patrick A. Townson) writes:

> 
> In article <ld9c5bINNdi4@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.
> Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:
> 
> > In article <1992Oct8.054734.18971@eecs.nwu.edu> ptownson@eecs.nwu.edu 
> > (Patrick A. Townson) writes:
> 
> >> Lesbian and gay people are generally intelligent. 
> 
> > This is a bit patronizing, don't you think?
> 
> > I wasn't aware that there was any documented correlation between
> > intelligence and sexual orientation.  I strongly suspect that lesbian
> > and gay people are neither more nor less intelligent than the
> > population at large.
> 
> No, I don't think it is patronizing at all. Maybe I should have
> inserted the phrase /of my aquaintance/ into the sentence ... maybe I
> should have also added some qualifier in the sentence correlating
> intelligence and creativeness. All of us can only speak from our own
> experiences of course, but I don't think I've ever met a gay person
> who was stupid ... there are some I do not like ... but none who lack
> the ability to express themselves quite well and think independently
> on issues. I've met plenty of heterosexuals who were dim-witted and
> lacking the brains that God gave a goose.  Again, all I can speak
> about is my own circle of aquaintences, co-workers, neighbors, etc.
> 
> In a message a couple years ago, I wrote something on the theme 'why
> do some gay people think they are so special and different?' and I
> caught hell then for suggesting basically what you are saying -- that
> the only thing which makes homosexuals and heterosexuals different is
> what they choose to do sexually. I think we were talking about some
> notorious sex killer or something ... I guess it only makes sense that
> when I now say I think gay people in their general lifestyles and
> interests are a cut above many or most heterosexuals that there would
> be criticism of that remark also.
> 
> REMEMBER: Above all, do not patronize the politicians and their
> cronies in government ... STAY AWAY from the polls next month.
> Instead, contact them and suggest they perform an anatomically
> impossible act upon themselves, and DO NOT VOTE!
> 
> 
> PAT

 
Hey, Pat, are *you* gay?  Or just half?
 

mstaben@comtch.spk.wa.us
 
- A warning to anyone, still in command...
Newsgroups: misc.misc,alt.feminism
From: bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris)
Subject: Violent Di Batters
Organization: Motorola, CCR&D, CORP, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 20:41:05 GMT
Followup-To: alt.feminism

Ivan Reid writes:

> As far as the British public are aware, Princess Diana has had a
> strained marriage, threw herself from bannisters, cut herself a bit,
> and was ignored by Prince Charles. But not once have we heard of her
> battering her husband! This is outrageous! She has been reported as
> flying into fits of rage at her husband's indifference and flailing at
> Charles's chest - but that doesn't count as husband battery - he was
> probably holding her wrists all the time. You guys seem to be making
> her out as an ogress, when she is simply a woman under a lot of
> strain. Give her a break!
> 
> Please take National Enquirer stories with a pinch of salt, and try to
> get hold of as many interpretations as possible in future!

I didn't believe the National Enquirer stories either.  However, I must
ask why you don't consider 'flailing at Charles' while he restrains her
as 'husband battery'?

I think that if your description of Di's behavior is accurate that she
needs some psychological help.  However,flying into fits of rage and striking
one's partner sure sounds like battery to me.  I should add that I think a
lot of spouses, male and female, who exhibit this behavior really need help. 
But I also think that what is needed most is a way for the spouse who gets
tired of being the victim of this crazy sort of behavior to be able to get
out of the situation.  And I don't think there should be any sort of double
standard over whether the spouse who is doing the 'flying into fits of rage'
and hitting their spouse is male or female.

Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: hsilbige@nyx.cs.du.edu (Howard silbiger)
Subject: arabs must leave israel immediately
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 14:32:43 GMT


There is an icreasing problem in the middle east...it is the fact that the
arab inhabitants of the Jewish homeland think that they have proper claim
to the land. I have no problem with that claim, with the exception of the
fact that it is now the Jewish Homeland (israel that is) and therefore it
should be inhabited soley by Jews. 
The United States of America, a so called Democracy, last year controlled
the Israeli election by withholding the loan guaraees, The United States
should stay out of other countries politics.
The Arabs living in the state of Israel should either leave the state
totally, or should pledge aliegence to the state of Israel, and live there
as permenant residents, but without the right to vote, thus keeping the
all important Jewish majority in the Jewish homeland. Any Arab who refuses
to pledge alliegence to Israel should be expelled from the land to any of
the surrounding 22 Arab states. So called "Palestinians" (what ever that
term means) should stage an uprising in Jordan (which is 70% comprised of
so called "Palestinian" citizens, and overthrow the Hashimite tyrant
running the country...they then would have a beutiul big state with them
as a majority, and world wide reconition...probably foreign aid from the
US, and even Israel would support them...let's all think it out and
finally put an end to the vilence plaguing the middle east for centuries!
From: mattb@ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Re: Punctuation
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:27:20 GMT
Reply-To: mattb@olympus.ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.

(Mark-Jason Dominus) writes:

>End every simple declaration with ``And that's why I had to kill them all.''

Mumble mumble mumble catchphrase mumble mumble mumble and that's why I had
to kill them all.

Matt
And that's the truth.
Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli)
Subject: Re: How long has it been?
Organization: Mentor Graphics -- IC Group
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:14:31 GMT

In article <MJD.92Oct6124157@saul.cis.upenn.edu> mjd@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Mark-Jason Dominus) writes:
>    Maybe a day and a half.  But it's been nearly eight months since the
>last time a lesbian fucked me in the ass with a rubber strap-on dildo.
>
>And yourself?

The last time a lesbian fucked me in the ass with a rubber strap-on dildo
mjd was in the same building.  I think it was about 6 months ago.

Strange coincidences?  Maybe.

Tom
-- 
Tom Limoncelli -- tal@warren.mentorg.com (work) -- tal@plts.uucp (play)
"I like Bill Clinton tremendously.  I know him from the governors' conferences.
The Democrats nominated their best person, a very able fellow.  The country is
well served by that choice." -Bush's re-election chair in NJ (Thomas Kean)
From: tzf@csl.biosci.arizona.edu (Theron Friedman)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Re: Pitt's Graffiti
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:24:29 GMT
Reply-To: tzf@csl.biosci.arizona.edu
Organization: U of Arizona, CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Oct14.210704.9351@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>, bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris) writes:
|> TJ Wood writes:
|> > 
|> > Nat Finkin, now officially a columinst for the PITT NEWS, writes on page 7
|> > about the "STOP RAPING" and "DEAD MEN DON'T RAPE" signs that campus feminists
|> > are erecting/spray painting on campus.
|> > 
.......... 
|> Hmmm.  Usually I like to handle things like this sarcastically, but I'm
|> having some trouble coming up with some good 'Dead Women' jokes.  About the
..........

I'd say that the ( offensive) comeback to "DEAD MEN DON'T RAPE" is
"So You'd Better Do It Now, While You're Still Alive." Must have popped into
the mind of some of the men reading the signs.
Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: fburdette@worldbank.org (Franklin P. Burdette)
Subject: Good Luck
Followup-To: misc.misc
Organization: The World Bank, Washington, DC, USA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:50:07 GMT

To Saint Jude:

With Love All Things Are Possible

	This paper has been sent to you for good luck. The original in is New
England. It has been sent around the world nine times! The luck has now
been sent to you. You will receive good luck within four days of receiving
this letter provided you, in turn send it on.

	This is no joke. You will receive good luck in the mail. Send no money.
Send copies to people you think need some good luck. Do not send money as
fate has no price. Do not keep this letter. It must leave your hands within
96 hours.

	Joe Elliot received $40,000\endash and lost it because he broke the chain.
Gene Welch lost his wife 51 days after receiving the letter. He had failed
to circulate the letter. However, before her death, he received $775,000.

	Please send twenty copies and see what happens in four days. The chain
comes from Venezuela and was written by Saul de Group, a missionary from
South Africa. Since the copy must tour the world, you must make twenty
copies and send them to friends and associates. After a few days, you will
get a surprise. This is true. Even if you are not superstitious.

	Do note the following: Constantine Dias received the chain letter. He
asked his secretary to make twenty copies and send them out. A few days
later he won a lottery of two million dollars. Carlos Dadirr, an office
employee, received the letter and forgot it had to leave his hands within
96 hours. He lost his job. Later, after finding the letter again, he mailed
the twenty copies. A few days later, he got a better job. Dalan Fairchild
received the letter and, not believing, threw the letter away. Nine days
later he died.

	In 1987 the letter, received by a young woman in California, was very
faded and barely readable. She promised herself she would retype the letter
and send it on, but she put it aside to do later. She was plagued by
various problems including expensive car repairs. The letter did not leave
her hands in 96 hours. She finally retyped the letter as promised and got a
new car!
Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: hsilbige@nyx.cs.du.edu (Howard silbiger)
Subject: I didn't write arabs must get out
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 14:49:49 GMT

Someone gained access to a password that belonged to me and posted the
article on this newsgroup. I appologize for any hurt feelings, but the
view expressed in the last article that was posted from my account was not
my view.. I was as shocked to see it there as any of you..please forgive
me...thank you
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From: crdunlea@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Christopher R. Dunlea)
Subject: Re: What adjectives do you think best describe romantic jealousy?
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 17:54:32 EDT

Chris Dunlea
233 Small Rd
Syracuse, NY 13210

I will be glad to help you.

crdunlea@rodan.syr.edu  Please acknowledge.


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