From: sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,soc.couples
Subject: Re: Sanctity of relationships
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:31:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

>This is getting fun.
>I guess you also don't hold Hitler responsible for  the  second  world
>war. Just imagine him saying, I am not responsible for anybody's elses
>actions. Only my own.

Again, your analogy does not make any sense.  Hitler was and is 
directly responsible for the slaughter of millions of people.  He
was the one "incharge" and the one originating the orders.  He was
the ruler.
You apparently do not agree, but I do not feel or believe for a 
millisecond that I am "incharge" of women and I do not "order" women
to date me or to leave who ever they might be seeing.
I do not create the unhappy or unfulfilling relationship they might
be involved in.  I simply might approach a women (not knowing whether
she is or is not involved in a relationship) and simply express an
interest in getting to know her better.  If she agrees, that's her
choice.  

>B.llSh.t, without him there would not have been a second world war. 

We finally agree on something.

>Also  without you, the people would not have had a reason to brake up.
>So it damn well makes you (at least, partially) responsible.

Wrong, with or without me, whatever reasons existed for the relationship
being shakey, they would still exist.  If s/he was unhappy (whatever
the case may be), they would continue to be unhappy unless both parties
decided to improve whatever it is that went wrong in the relationship.

>
>The above logic, It isn't my fault, they did it. Is a screamer.

How the hell can you say that it is my fault the relationship, which
I had nothing to do with and no involvement in, failed simply because
I was interested in the woman????????????  

>So  you  also  don't  have  any  problem  if  i  would  take away your
>girlfriend/wife or whatever. You would not think anything off it.

This is where we disagree.  I DO NOT fear that women (whether she be
my girlfriend or wife) would be soooooooooo easily taken from me by
some guy (such as yourself) just because he walks up to her and says
"Ug...woman.....I want you....you now mine".  Personally, any woman
I would date would look at the guy who uttered these sounds, look at
him with extreme pity, and rush home to my waiting arms..
But seriously, if my relationship sucked (and if it did, it would be
partially my fault) and she were tempted by the kindness and
compassion of another,
NO, I wouldn't be happy....but I should have thought about her needs
before ****** I ****** (and I can't emphasise the word "I" enough)
drove her away.  It's not that the guy took or stole her from me, it's
that "I" drove her away.  Understand????

>Sad, very sad.

So true, but I still have hope for you.
>
>Sorry, but i just had to explode here. 

Hope you feel better

				Steve
				
>(Ducking for flames now.)
>
Better stay down till dark.

>The full moon shines bright. I gaze long at its beauty,	   |    Hank Janssen
>I am overwhelmed. "Isn't it lovely," you say -		   | 	    (CPU)
>         I'd forgotten you were there.			   |att!ihlpb!hjanssen
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