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From: gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us (Gary S. Trujillo)
Subject: Re: New 3b1'er (FAQ request)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:34:20 GMT

In <1993Jan8.014847.10019@nwnexus.WA.COM> frank@halcyon.com
	(Frank Higgins) writes:

> AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHATEVER BECAME OF THAT GAL WHO WAS GOING TO PUBLISH
> FAQ? I haven't seen a posting of the FAQ since she acknowledged she was
> taking over...

Here's the article I believe Frank was thinking of (it pays to be a packrat
sometimes, eh? :-)  Perhaps if enough folks knock on her electronic door,
we'll get some results.  I would have posted the last edition of the FAQ,
but I'm afraid that someone else may have already done so.  Maybe Helen
needs some help.

Gary

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| From: helen@nomad.urich.edu (Helen C. O'Boyle)
| Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
| Subject: Re: 3B1 FAQ
| Summary: Here's where to send FAQ related mail
| Message-ID: <1992Sep21.200820.25898@gossip.urich.edu>
| Date: 21 Sep 92 20:08:20 GMT
| Organization: University of Richmond
|
| In article <Bus5Hz.Kq9@hico2.westmark.com> kak2@hico2.westmark.com writes:
| >Andy Heffernan (ahh@glyph.kingston.ny.us) wrote:
| >:
| >: 	After some thought and meditation, I've decided that long-time
| >: lurker and general nuisance Helen O'Boyle will be the best person to
| >: take over the Frequently-asked Questions list.  Actually, I was just
| >: kidding about the nuisance part.
|
| Hi, folks!
|
| I'll soon set up a mail alias for the 3b1 FAQ like Andy had, but until
| then, if you have any suggestions or comments about the FAQ, please
| send them to:
| 		helen@nomad.urich.edu
|
| That site is on the Internet, and not (as far as I know) in the Usenet
| maps, so UUCP mail sites might need to route through their favorite
| Internet gateway.
|
| >I recall beginning to try to re-create troff source for this list.
| >Such a beast could be printed out nicely with troff, with change
| >bars and everything.  We'd make the source available on an archive
| >machine somewhere, and post just the processed output.
| >(who wants to read troff source!?)
| >
| >I lost what I'd done toward this in the disk crash.
| >Well, maybe it'd be a waste of time anyway.
|
| ACTUALLY, Kris has a good point here.  It would probably not be a bad
| idea to gather together a lot of the 3b1 folklore in a nifty little
| formatted Users Guide type of thing.  After all, very little of it is
| any more likely to become obsolete than the machines already are, right?
| It'd be very useful for new users, and I don't think I'd mind replacing
| my 3b1 notebook section of lpr'd news articles and mail messages with
| such a document, either.
|
| Does anyone else think this might be worth the effort?
| --
| Helen C. O'Boyle        | Netnews admin, GNU support beastie, C hacker,
| helen@nomad.urich.edu   | UNIX contractor and hanger-on in Richmond, VA

--
    Gary S. Trujillo                            gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us
Somerville, Massachusetts              {wjh12,bu.edu,spdcc,ima,cdp}!gnosys!gst
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: renkel@rtsg.mot.com (Will Renkel)
Subject: 3b1 and external modem problem
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:28:14 GMT

I am having trouble getting an Intel 14.4EX modem to work on my 3b1.
I am running 3.51 plus fixdisk2 plus HDB.


When I use "cu" it says cant access device:
crw-rw-rw-  1 root    sys       0,  0 Jan  6 18:45 /dev/tty000
From Systems file:
fwork Any ACU 9600 number "" \d\r\d\r\d\r   in: nuucp
From Devices file:
ACU tty000 - Any hayes
From Dialers file:
hayes	=,-,	"" \dAT\r\c OK\r \EATDT\T\r\c CONNECT


When I try the phone manager I get an interrupt on a system call after
the dial is complete and its trying to set up the screen for use.
/dev/tty000: Interrupted system call
I did get through once.  The profile is set up to use UNIXPC as the terminal.
From L.sys:
fwork Any ACU 9600 number "" \d\r\d\r\d\r   in: nuucp
From L-devices:
ACU tty000 hayes 9600
From modemcap:
# Hayes smartmodem 1200
# Name=hayes
ha|hayes|hayes 9600:tr=\r:wp=\r:wk=K:wt=T:\
                   :ta=AT\r:tb=ATDT:\
                   :es=\r:\
                   :d1#1:d5#5:\
                   :pl=trwpd1tad1wpwpwkwptbphtrwpwpwttr:


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From: muller@munnari.OZ.AU (Paul Muller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Ethernet board
Date: 10 Jan 1993 22:21:47 +1100
Organization: University of Melbourne
NNTP-Posting-Host: munnari.oz.au
Keywords: 3b1, Ethernet, ungermann Bass

I have been offered an Ethernet board for the 3b1 of the Ungermann Bass variety
without drivers.

What is a reasonable price to pay? I am thinking of offering $50 Aus for it, is
that a good price? What euipment/software will I need to connect my machine
to an existing network? eg are TCP/IP drivers available, do I need an futher
EXPENSIVE cables, etc.

I am hoping to play with TCP/IP on a budget, so I am not looking to spend a
bundle (but whoever is?).

Thanks in advance.

pm
From: bob@olwejo.UUCP (Bob Kupiec)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: Yet Another 3B1 Sighting
Date: 6 Jan 93 08:26:11 GMT
Reply-To: olwejo!bob@cs.widener.edu
Organization: Olwejo - Private UNIX System

In <11374@prijat.cs.uofs.edu>, bill@cs.uofs.edu writes:
>Last night on our local FOX TV station was a movie about an ex-government
>agent called back to eliminate a rogue assassin (which just happened to be
>a robot.)  In the lab where the robot was created was, you guessed it, an
>AT&T 3B1.  But wait!!!  A little later the robot goes to the offices of this
>unspecified spy organization (Langley??) to check out the hero's dossier, and
>low and behold, the room is FULL of 3B1's.

I've lost track of the many TV shows and movies that I've seen them in.

Were they turned on?  I've seen a few shows where the "user" plays with the
mouse on the "Welcome to the AT&T UNIX pc\n\nPlease login: " screen!

>I wonder if there is a warehouse somewhere in Hollywood just loaded with
>these things??

Now I know what's in all those boxes at the end of the "Indiana Jones: 
The Raiders of the Lost Ark" movie!  3b1's!

Anyone for starting the official 3B1 TV/film sightings list/FAQ? ;-))

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,comp.mail.misc
From: wdp@gagme.chi.il.us (Bill Pfeiffer)
Subject: Re: Sendmail problem on AT&T unix 7300 (3b1).
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 05:15:45 GMT


I have been reading all this discussion over the relative benefits and
drawbacks between smail and sendmail.  One problem, I still have the same
problem I had when I wrote the original article with this title.

Interesting thing is, that I DO NOT have a smail binary on the system!
When I do a  'type smail' at me ksh prompt, it says 'smail not found'.
I DO have a /usr/spool/smail directory AND a /usr/lib/smail directory,
but my binary is sendmail which lives in /usr/bin/sendmail.  In the
/usr/lib/smail are such things as routers, aliases, mkpath and all of
that, yet no smail binary.

I would have concluded that i am just missing the smail and that is my
problem, except that (as I said in the original article) my prob;lem
of mail 'sticking' in /usr/spool/smail/input is not constant (although
it is virtually constant these days).  In otherwords, mail DOES get
out sometimes but not others.  

For those who missed the original post, Here is a BRIEF synopsis...

On my UNIXPC 7300, outgoing mail is getting stuck in
/usr/spool/smail/input and not passing on to the uucp spool for
sending on to my mailserver site.  When this happens, there is a
coresponding lock file in /usr/spool/smail/lock.  Removal of that file
does NOT release the letter.  

Other than getting a better machine :-), what can I do to fix this?

Thanks for all help.

William Pfeiffer
Moderator - rec.radio.broadcasting - Internet Radio Journal
To submit articles send them to rrb@airwaves.chi.il.us
To subscribe, send e-mail to journal@airwaves.chi.il.us
Xref: sparky comp.sys.3b1:4177 misc.forsale.computers:44793 misc.forsale.computers.other:1393
From: rpk@niagara.edu (N.U. Admin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.computers.other
Subject: FORSALE: AT&T UNIX-PC Hardware/Software
Date: 6 Jan 93 01:36:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hi,

   Will be moving from a house to a flat in a couple of months, and as
a result will have to lose most of my computing "toys" due to lack of
storage... :-(  Below is the list of AT&T UNIX-PC/3B1 equipment/software
that I have available currently, and wish to find a good home for.  If
you have any questions, or are looking for anything other than what is
listed, please feel free to drop me a line.  The first offer at the stated
price will receive the merchandise, otherwise best offers may be considered.
Shipping is a couple dollars extra, and the buyer can choose whatever method
of shipping they prefer (ie. UPS, US Mail, etc.).
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AT&T UNIX-PC Voice Power Board			$220.00
 - Voice Power Board card
 - AT&T Software, Voice Editor, etc.
 - Original Disks

AT&T UNIX-PC 512k Memory Cards [2]		$50.00/each  or
 - 64k RAM Chips				$90.00/both
 - Was going to replace with 256k chips
   to create 2 meg. boards, but didn't
   have time

AT&T UNIX-PC/7300				Best Offer
 - New (unused)
 - 1 Megabyte main memory
 - Mouse, Keyboard, 5 1/4" Floppy, Monitor
 - Internal Modem
 - 20meg. Miniscribe drive
 - WD2010 chip included [not installed]
 - This system passes all diagnostics *except*
   for the hard disk (can't access).  I had
   planned to replace the old WD1010 chip with
   the WD2010 chip, but again, I don't have
   any free time anymore.

This is a partial list, I haven't had time to sort out all the boxes from
storage, so if you are looking for something drop me a line, I just might
have it.

Take care.

-rpk

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From: bob@olwejo.UUCP (Bob Kupiec)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: NEW 7300's in Chicago
Date: 9 Jan 93 08:13:00 GMT
Reply-To: olwejo!bob@cs.widener.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Olwejo - Private UNIX System

In <1993Jan6.220401.27043@nwnexus.WA.COM>, frank@halcyon.com writes:
>		$160 each for entire inventory (about 900) 
>			(about 400 NON-functioning, non-warranteed
>			 units thrown in FREE. No Found Set included.)
[...]
>	4000 Foundation Sets in shrink wrap

Everytime a warehouse full of thousands of these things show up, it makes
me wonder actually how many were manufactured?  Does anyone know numbers
for manufacturing runs?  With 4,000 Foundation sets found above, I'd
guess that 3b1/7300 production made over 50,000 units.  Anybody got
any facts or figures?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: roger@booth.uucp (Roger Abrahams)
Subject: Re: rs232 computer connection
Organization: Private System
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 15:32:59 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.161859.17117@colnet.cmhnet.org> res@colnet.cmhnet.org (Rob Stampfli) writes:
>In article <C0JrBA.I3z@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mrjg8679@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael R James) writes:
>>I have my 3b1 configured to answer on the serial port
>>with a 486 clone running OS/2 on the other end.
>>Problems:
>>1) I'm not getting 9600 baud over this connection, the line
>>appears to very slow with a lot of lag.  But file transfers do work.
>>
>>2) Shutting off my 486 crashes the 3b1, although I can disconnect
>>the serial cable and then shutdown with no effect (on the 3b1).
>>
>>Any ideas what my problems might be?  Maybe this isn't new but
>>the FAQ doesn't address these problems.
>
>This is from memory, so it may not be 100 percent accurate.  There was a
>design bug found in an early version of the 8530 chip that was used in some
>later versions of the serial and combo cards.  The card was redesigned to
>cut costs, and the redesign uncovered the bug.  I'm not sure of the revision
>number of the affected cards, but I know the "E" series was clean, so the
>problem was introduced after that, I think around "G" or so.  If you have
>a board that has one silver box instead of two crystals on it, it has the
>potential for being affected.
>
>The bug manifests itself by allowing the card, when in use, to "ring",
>causing many high level interrupts of the 68010 in quick succession.  This
>has the effect of consuming all the processor's time, effectively locking it
>up from the UNIX-PC's perspective.  Of the "affected" batch of cards, only
>some actually exhibit these symptoms.  The rest are "on the edge", but work.
>The solution is to replace the 8530 chip with a newer one where the bug has
>been eliminated.  The old 8530 is still good for service in devices that
>don't stress it in this particular way, like older serial cards or DOS boxes.
>(But, obviously, don't just swap chips with the older cards, since they
>don't have the corrected 8530s.)
>
>If you see your Unix-PC just lock up (LEDS aren't even blinking), try this: 
>Disconnect the RS232 connections, one by one, from the serial cards.  It
>might take the machine several seconds to recover from processing the queued
>interrupts, but when you disconnect the right cable, the machine will
>eventually come back to life in most cases.  (If it has been locked up for
>an exceeding long time, a stack may be blown and a reboot required.)  If,
>on the other hand, the machine starts working again, you have found your
>problem.  AT&T used to send you a free good 8530 if you complained that you
>had these symptoms.  I doubt the offer is still good.
>-- 
>Rob Stampfli  rob@colnet.cmhnet.org      The neat thing about standards:
>614-864-9377  HAM RADIO: kd8wk@n8jyv.oh  There are so many to choose from.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: mrjg8679@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael R James)
Subject: New 3b1'er (FAQ request)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:33:27 GMT

Having recently acquired a 3b1 (and before I start asking a
lot of silly questions) could someone post or send me the FAQ.

Thanks,

--
  Michael James   james@falhrd.msd.anl.gov   
                 "Wouldn't it be great if insecurity and desperation
                  made us more attractive?" -- Albert Brooks, Broadcast News
From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Yet Another 3B1 Sighting
Date: 5 Jan 93 13:55:51 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing Sciences

Last night on our local FOX TV station was a movie about an ex-government
agent called back to eliminate a rogue assassin (which just happened to be
a robot.)  In the lab where the robot was created was, you guessed it, an
AT&T 3B1.  But wait!!!  A little later the robot goes to the offices of this
unspecified spy organization (Langley??) to check out the hero's dossier, and
low and behold, the room is FULL of 3B1's.

I wonder if there is a warehouse somewhere in Hollywood just loaded with
these things??

bill

-- 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: frank@halcyon.com (Frank Higgins)
Subject: Re: New 3b1'er (FAQ request)
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:48:47 GMT

In article <C0Hpvr.4x4@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mrjg8679@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael R James) writes:
>Having recently acquired a 3b1 (and before I start asking a
>lot of silly questions) could someone post or send me the FAQ.
>
>Thanks,
>
>--
>  Michael James   james@falhrd.msd.anl.gov   
>                 "Wouldn't it be great if insecurity and desperation
>                  made us more attractive?" -- Albert Brooks, Broadcast News
>

AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHATEVER BECAME OF THAT GAL WHO WAS GOING TO PUBLISH
FAQ? I haven't seen a posting of the FAQ since she acknowledged she was
taking over. Have I been "behind the door" when the FAQ's were being handed
out?


Frank        

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: mrjg8679@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael R James)
Subject: rs232 computer connection
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:59:32 GMT

I have my 3b1 configured to answer on the serial port
with a 486 clone running OS/2 on the other end.
Problems:
1) I'm not getting 9600 baud over this connection, the line
appears to very slow with a lot of lag.  But file transfers do work.

2) Shutting off my 486 crashes the 3b1, although I can disconnect
the serial cable and then shutdown with no effect (on the 3b1).

Any ideas what my problems might be?  Maybe this isn't new but
the FAQ doesn't address these problems.

Thanks in advance,

--
  Michael James   james@falhrd.msd.anl.gov   
                 "Wouldn't it be great if insecurity and desperation
                  made us more attractive?" -- Albert Brooks, Broadcast News
From: rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com (Bob Haar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: Cable (and other details) for 720/800K flop
Date: 5 Jan 93 12:59:44 GMT
Reply-To: rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com
Organization: G.M. Research Laboratories


In article 9F@hico2.westmark.com, kak@hico2.westmark.com (Kris A. Kugel) writes:
|>A couple of Questions for anybody who's put
|>a 720 K floppy on their 3B1/7300/unixpc:
|>
|>I'm attempting to attach a 720K floppy drive
|>to one of the 3B1's I've got here.  This has been
|>done before, and documented in comp.sys.3b1.
|>

Kris,

I assume that you are replacing the stock 5 1/4"
floppy drive with a 3.5" drive.  [Note that you can
have both drives hooked up to the system if you use
a manual switch to toggle the drive select line. I
do this with my 7300.]

|>Now, I'm wondering, what kind of cable do I buy?
|>The cable I've got goes from two rows of pins to
|>an edge connector, but the connector on my 720K
|>floppy drive is also two rows of pins, like the
|>connector on the motherboard.

As you noticed, the 5 1/4" drives use a different
connector than the 3.5" ones. I remember that the power
supply connection was also different.

|>
|>I'm assuming that it's a pretty standard part,
|>but I don't know if there are any special cable
|>twists needed, or what.
|>

What I did was to use a kit for mounting 3.5" drives
in a 5 1/4" form factor cabinet. This kit included
a power supply adaptor cable and a small circuit board
that plugs into the two row pin connector and brings out
the signals to an edge connector. If you do this, you can
use the stock cable.

You should be able to be buy an appropriate cable that
connects directly at any store that handles PC-clone
components. Don't confuse them by asking about a UNIXpc,
just say that you want a cable to connect a 3.5" floppy
drive to a controller.

|>Meanwhile, there didn't seem to be anything in
|>the literature sheet I got from Panasonic about
|>how to make the floppy drive operate only in 720K mode,
|>is there anything special I should do, and if so,
|>what am I looking for on the options sheet?
|>
|>Are there particular options I'm trying to set besides that?
|>If anybody is REALLY knowledgable, this is a Panasonic JU-257,
|>has an "AT&T" label on it too.

Sorry, I don't know the details of this drive. I used a Teac
in my system. However, if this is a HD drive (1.44 Mb capacity) that
you want to use as a 720K 2D drive, you may run into problems.

Also, did you know that you can use a 720 floppy drive in
10 sector mode and get 800K on it (just like the 400K,
10 sector format for 5 1/4" floppies). You cannot use this
format to interchange data with IBM PC's or Sun workstations,
but it is useful for system backups.

In any case, you will need some additional iv format descriptors
if you want to format either 720K or 800K floppies on your UNIXpc.
I can e-mail you my versions. Drop me a note if you want them.

  	Robert Haar               InterNet : rhaar@gmr.com 
	Computer Science Dept., G.M. Research Laboratories
DISCLAIMER: Unless indicated otherwise, everything in this note is
personal opinion, not an official statement of General Motors Corp.
From: jfrench@cs.tamu.edu (Jeff French)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Need "vi" clone, please!
Date: 6 Jan 1993 03:42:15 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: solar.tamu.edu

Recently, I bought a 3B1 from a local pawn shop.  ($120.00, not bad, eh?)
At any rate, it had no disks included, but it boots and runs great.  It
came with docs for an accounting program called `AT&T GLOWS'.  Apparently,
this is written in Thoroughbred Basic, as this and a Basic compiler are on
the hard disk.  Does anybody want this software?  I'm fixing to rm all of
it to free up some disk space.

Sadly, as this was a business box, there was no C development suite included,
and hence, no "vi".  Has anyone compiled "Elvis" or "Stevie" ? If so, please
email a floundering "ed" user a copy.  Also looking for "fmt" and "ispell" in
binary format.

Net pity failing the above request and $$$'s in hand, does anyone have the
dev.  suite for sale?  It doesn't need to be the latest and greatest rev.
as long as it works with my ver 3.5 UNIX.  Also need the utility disk that
lets you install a new hard disk?  I have some 3B2 software to barter with,
e.g., complete Pascal package, Writers Workbench, Documenters Workbench,
as well as most of the more common stuff.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: jon@jonlab.UUCP (Jon LaBadie)
Subject: Is csh (not tcsh) available for the 3b1?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:40:12 GMT
Organization: JG Computing

Subject pretty much says it all, I have a need to practice
my csh skills.  I usually use the bourne shell.

thanks, jl

-- 
Jon LaBadie
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