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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:20:27 -0500
From:         FAC_JCLARK@JMUVAX.BITNET
Subject: Re: Blowup

Scott,
Michael Powell's "Peeping Tom" does belong in this "mini-genre" of self-
reflexive voyeur-themed films.  Many critics would say it's the quintessential
entry, at least as the theme relates to movies and the viewer.  I have seen it,
and it's a strange, disturbing and in some ways wonderful film... but only
once, and that was years ago.  It's due to be released soon on laserdisc from
Criterion, with commentary by Martin Scorcese, and one hopes a videocassette
version will follow soon after.

By the way, "Peeping Tom" was released about the same time as "Psycho", but
the effect of the outrage it caused was more drastic in Great Britain.  In
effect, it literally "broke" Michael Powell's career, and he never managed to
make another feature film in 30 years, though he was planning an adaptation of
"The Tempest" (how wonderful *that* would've been!) shortly before his death
last year.  Jeff Clark
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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 1992 21:08:15 -0600
From:         Julie Friedline <jfriedli@UMAXC.WEEG.UIOWA.EDU>
Subject:      mickey&zsa-zsa

Just a trivial pursuit -- were Mickey Rooney and Zsa Zsa Gabor ever
married?

J Friedline
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Subject:      Re: Hughes and J-man

>You know what bothered me about FERRIS BUELLER?  I mean, it's a fun movie
>and all, but Matthew Broderick's character couldn't have succeeded with
>any of his wonderful, funderful tricks if he didn't have all his rich-kid
>toys.
>
>I hated THE BREAKFAST CLUB.  So sue me.
>
>The only Hughes movie I ever liked was SIXTEEN CANDLES, which was just
>as phony and unrealistic as anything he's ever done, but at least it
>wasn't annoying.
>
I agree with your thoughts concerning Ferris, about it
being light entertainment and all.  But the reason it
bugged me was that Ferris basically (IMHO) was a jerk.
A funny jerk, but never-the-less a jerk.

Joe Daus   U of MO-Columbia
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On Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:33:01 GMT Kerr Avon said:
>Whatever happened to... #3 in an occasional series:
>
>Lee Majors:  Best known as everyones favourite Bionic Man, who was worth
>             Six Million Dollars.  The show spawned a bionic woman and a
>             bionic dog.  Majors also starred in _The Fall Guy_, a comedy
>             drama about a hollywood stuntman.  But where is he now...?
>
Kerr,

On American TV, Lee Majors has been co-starring in an action series called
Raven.  He's the buddy of Raven, an American who has something to do with
ninjas (I read this in the TV listings but haven't seen the program).  On
the show Lee has a beard and is supposedly fat but he got featured in People
magazine a couple of months back where it only appeared to be a mild case of
middle age spread.  By the way, the TV show was a short summer series and I
think the CBS network is now carrying it as a regular series.  Someone else
can correct me on this last point.

Also, in the Bill Murray film "Scrooged" (1989), Majors appeared as himself
in a trailer for a never-seen TV Christmas special in which he battled with
Santa Claus and Mrs. Claus against terrorists trying to take over the North
Pole, basically a parody.

Gayle Williams
University of Georgia Libraries
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:07:05 GMT
From:         Kerr Avon <lcc@WIN.ICL.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: The Saint

>From: "(Don McCreary)" <surak@PX1.STFX.CA>
>
>Still, has anybody heard anything about them making a motion picture based
>on that character?  I can't remember where I heard this, it may have been
>when I was in England in April (sounds like something you would read in
>Time Out).

Yes, I vaguely remember reading about this.  I think that Moore was
going to appear in a cameo role.  I have no idea if the project is
prceeding, though.

>While we are on the topic of Roger Moore, what was the series he played in
>with Tony Curtis?  All I remember was it was in black and white and very
>similar to *I Spy*.

As Sue already mentioned, this was The Persuaders.  I just wanted to add that
some episodes have been released on video over here in the UK.

			Liam.
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:37:52 -0500
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Subject:      Re: John Wayne on TBS

Geoff,

Frank "Spig" Wead was a real person, a personal friend of director John Ford,
who wrote a number of screenplays, including the one for Ford's "They Were
Expendable."  Again, courtesy of what-would-I-do-without-it? _The Motion
Picture Guide_.  Jeff Clark
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Subject:      Bicycle Thief

Alex--

To cheer up, see _The Icicle Thief_.  Guarantee you'll
feel better!  It's in Italian, directed by Maurizio (sp??)
Nichetti.  Enjoy!

Susan
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:21:40 EST
From:         Bill Felty <BILL.FELTY@UKWANG.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      The Brady BROOD

Personnally, I'd love to see a stark drama with the Brady kids thrust right
into middle age  filled  with one crisis after another.  That would wipe the
perky little smiles from their sitcom faces.

To accurately portray the needed amount of depression and angst, I'd recommend
the following cast:

Marcia..........Meryl Streep              Greg............Robert DeNiro
Jan.............Jessica Lange             Peter...........Al Pacino
Cindy...........Madonna                   Bobby...........Ray Liotta

:-)
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:18:00 EST
From:         "Mike.Simmons" <20676MES@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Interview with the Vampire

I don't think Hauer's screen debut was -BLADERUNNER-.  He was in a film called
-SOLDIER OF ORANGE-, a Verhoven production (perhaps his directoral debut).
This is a Dutch film.  Highly recommend it.  I do not know what year this was.
Mike
MSU
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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1992 00:14:18 -0400
From:         "(Don McCreary)" <surak@PX1.STFX.CA>
Subject:      The Saint

All this talk about "where are they now" got me thinking about Roger Moore.
I had heard a while back that they were thinking of making a motion picture
based on The Saint.  Has anybody heard anything about this?  Has it
happened and I missed it (since I live at the end of the world, it is
entirely possible)?  And whatever has happened to Roger Moore?

Don
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Subject: RE: Miller's Goodfellas

I am amazed that you would be arguing the merits of Goodfellas as opposed to
the Godfather Trilogy!  While they deal with basically the same subject matter,
they are both very different movies and in their own ways fine films.  The
definitive mob film? I don't know about that.  Once Upon a Time in America
ranks somewhere in there and for my money so does Capone.  As far as mob films
go, Bugsey was a joke.  An not a very funny one, I'm afraid.


Ellen
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:58:36 CST
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Subject:      Miller's Crossing

I know I'm going to sound very shallow/unintellectual
for saying this, but...

I found Miller's Crossing to be boring (though admittedly
a very high quality product).  I think part of the problem
was that I had Raising Arizona in my mind when I watched it.
In other words, I was expecting a fast paced, strange, yet somehow
highly appealing movie with highly likable characters.


Joe Daus   U of MO-Columbia
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From vn Wed Nov 11 15:08:15 1992
Subject: Re: Certificates?
> Actually, I don't thinks that's the way it goes.  I tried to get into an R
> picture with my brother when I was 16 and he was 19 and they said that he had
> to be my parent/guardian or over 21 to get me in.
>                            ______
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You were 16 and couldn't pretend to the ticket man that you were 17? Do
you have to prove your ID in the States? I got into a 15 cert film here
when I was 12 (The Supergrass I remember) and an 18 cert when I was 15.
	Dominator

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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 11:38:16 EDT
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Subject:      Re: Anthony Perkins movie

This was called _Crimes of Passion_.  Kathleen Turner starred as
the prostitute/designer, and Annie Potts was in it too.  The
lead male was John Laughlin (?).

Susan
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Hi all,
        May interject into the blood we've been wading around in this morning
a pitch for a wonderful film I saw yesterday - Babette's Feast?
        It was quiet, it was subtle, and it was beautiful.  It brought tears
to my eyes not because it was sad, but just because of its beauty.  It was
such a pleasure to spend an hour and a half with a set of sympathetic
characters who find some redemption in the hard world we all must live in.
        After the long string of powerful depressing pictures I've gone
through, it was a joy to see a powerful exalting picture for a change.
        Take a shower, scrub the blood off, & treat yourself to Babette's
Feast.  It's just what the doctor ordered.
                                                        Alex
P.S.  OK, the ending was a little trite, but it worked for me anyway.
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 There seems to be some confusion about my previous message. If you have not
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I am sorry about the confusion.
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>I saw _Singles_ this week and was amazed at what a nice little film it is and
>that I have heard very little said/printed about it.  I was particularly
>impressed with the performances of Campbell Scott (of "Dying Young - which did)
>and Kyra Sedgewyck (Mrs. Kevin Bacon).
>
>Did anyone else see and enjoy this film as much as I did?  (It could also
>be that I identify strongly - single and about the same age as the film's
>characters.) :-)

An unpretentious, enjoyable film by Cameron Crowe, who also directed
"Say Anything."  Good ensemble performances by Scott, Sedgewyck, Fonda,
and Dillon.  Great soundtrack even if you're not into the Seattle rock scene.

Having now directed two films, along with his script "Fast Times at
Ridgemont High," Crowe seems to be developing a style of his own,
with that John Hughes ear for the colloquial speech of the young, and a
hip sense that the problems of pairing up are not confined to any one
generation.

j-man

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From: ST801736@BROWNVM.BITNET (Rob Rosenthal)
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Date: 12 Nov 92 16:25:10 GMT
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  You want voyeuristic and ghoulish?  How about that scene in _Henry: Portrait
of a Serial Killer_ where...


(somewhat gross spoiler below)






















   ...Henry and his pal Otis slaughter an entire family, videotaping the whole
thing on a lark, and the audience sees the whole experience only through the
hand-held Camcorder they're using?  Industrial strength heebie-jeebies.

                                          Rob
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Subject: Re: New Virus Alert

>About that virus alert:
>
>There is a later message from the moderator of the Virus-L list, that
>the message is most likely a hoax.  Check the comp.virus newsgroup or
>the virus-l list on BITNET for more information.
>
>Obligatory Cinema content:
>
>How long do you think it will be before somebody makes a TV-movie
>about the Perot campaign (*groan*)?
>
>I still wish I could have voted for Rufus T. Firefly.
>
>Best,
>Peter
>
You should have wrote him in, a friend of mine wrote
in Jerry Brown.

Don't blame me I voted for Bill and Opus
Joe Daus   U of MO-Columbia
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From:         Geoff Davis <DAVIS@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: John Wayne on TBS
              10 Nov 1992 11:46:00 EST from <AMBLY@CLUST1.CLEMSON.EDU>

I stand corrected.
From: ACCGSG@HOFSTRA.BITNET (Gary Graffagnino)
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>From: "Ellen.Edgerton" <EBEDGERT@SUADMIN.BITNET>
>
>The only Hughes movie I ever liked was SIXTEEN CANDLES, which was just
>as phony and unrealistic as anything he's ever done, but at least it
>wasn't annoying.

SOME KIND OF WONDERFUL was also a great movie!
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From: los@coos.dartmouth.edu (Charles Dubuque)
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Date: 12 Nov 92 23:41:30 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <CINEMA-L%92111209572440@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> HLC2@PSUADMIN.BITNET writes:
> For fun, a friend and I decided to
>cast the movie; Rutger Hauer was unanimously chosen to play Lestat. The odd
>thing, we later found out, is that Anne Rice supposedly created Lestat
>specifically with Hauer in mind.

Are you sure?? The first book, Interview with a Vampire, was written in
the 1970s (1973 I think...). Wasn't Hauer's screen debut with
_Blade_Runner_ in 1982? If so, then it was a little bit of vampiric
premonition on Rice's part to base Lestat on Hauer.

Chuck
los@coos.dartmouth.edu : Internet
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Subject:      Re: Brady Bunch the movie

As children or adults?
From: surak@PX1.STFX.CA ((Don McCreary))
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Date: 5 Nov 92 22:19:53 GMT
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Well, Lee Majors was in a TV series this past summer -- I never really watched
it so can't remember the name.  Didn't it also have Rick Springfield in it too
(speaking of "where are they now"!)????

Don
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Subject: RE: Anthony Perkins movie

Oh yeah--Crimes of Passion was directed by Ken Russell (surprise??)

Susan
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Subject:      bad news actors

Lou Diamond Phillips -- A lead in anything?... NOT.

Joe
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From:         "(Ens Alexander W Ellermann)" <ellerman@NORFOLK.NADN.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Hughes and J-man

>
> You know what bothered me about FERRIS BUELLER?  I mean, it's a fun movie
> and all, but Matthew Broderick's character couldn't have succeeded with
> any of his wonderful, funderful tricks if he didn't have all his rich-kid
> toys.
>
Funny, somehow I managed to cut class every other day as a high school student
without any nifty toys.  I just gave the attendance lady back rubs on the days
I did come in :)

Also, thanks for the response on my Samurai question, but I don't think Toshiro
Mifune played the leader in that picture.  I thought he played the poseur, &
then played the Macbeth part in Throne of Blood.  The guy I'm thinking of
played the Macduff part in the latter film.

                       The now reformed, respectable, & tie wearing
                                                                Alex
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From:         "(Don McCreary)" <surak@PX1.STFX.CA>
Subject:      Re: The Saint

Spitting Image had a great Roger Moore puppet -- its eyebrows go up and
down alternately.  I can't remember whether it ever sang, though.

Don
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From:         Michelle Lehman <MICHELLE@ORTTA.UMN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: _Singles_

> From:         Bill Felty <BILL.FELTY@UKWANG.UKY.EDU>

> I saw _Singles_ this week and was amazed at what a nice little film it is and
> that I have heard very little said/printed about it.  I was particularly
> impressed with the performances of Campbell Scott (of "Dying Young - which
 did)
> and Kyra Sedgewyck (Mrs. Kevin Bacon).
>
> Did anyone else see and enjoy this film as much as I did?  (It could also
> be that I identify strongly - single and about the same age as the film's
> characters.) :-)

    Yup, I saw it when it was first released and I really enjoyed it.
 I'd like to see it again, but can't seem to find the time. :(   (I
think that may have a lot to do with it - 'cuz I kind of felt the
same way and I too am about the same age as the characters and
single.)

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* University of Minnesota         |                  Minneapolis, MN *
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From:         Ray Hoy <RAY@MCO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Interview with the Vampire

>
>In article <CINEMA-L%92111209572440@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> HLC2@PSUADMIN.BITNET
>writes:
>> For fun, a friend and I decided to
>>cast the movie; Rutger Hauer was unanimously chosen to play Lestat. The odd
>>thing, we later found out, is that Anne Rice supposedly created Lestat
>>specifically with Hauer in mind.
>
>Are you sure?? The first book, Interview with a Vampire, was written in
>the 1970s (1973 I think...). Wasn't Hauer's screen debut with
>_Blade_Runner_ in 1982? If so, then it was a little bit of vampiric
>premonition on Rice's part to base Lestat on Hauer.
>
>Chuck
>los@coos.dartmouth.edu : Internet

Hauer appeared in Soldier of Orange in 1979. The review in my Maltin refers
to Hauer "coming into his own" in the film. That implies earlier work by
Hauer in something. I don't have any info on the publishing date of
Interview.. but it seems plausible that the character was written with
Hauer in mind.      Or maybe not.

Ray Hoy  RAY@MCO.BITNET
Medical College of Ohio
Toledo Ohio
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From:         FAC_JCLARK@JMUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Interview with the Vampire

Chuck,

Rutger Hauer's *American* screen debut may've been with Blade Runner in
'82, but he'd been in Dutch (and possibly other European) films consider-
ably earlier, including some by directore Paul Verhoeven (Soldier of
Orange and a couple more, I think without checking).  How far back that
goes I don't know without a research check.  Jeff Clark
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