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From: jmm@king.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Jeffrey K. MacKie-Mason)
Subject: Compiling C-Kermit for NeXT
Reply-To: jmm@king.econ.lsa.umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:00:28 GMT


I grabbed the source of the current C-Kermit from watsun.cc.columbia.edu,
and tried compiling with "make next".  I got the following result:

king/cku182> make next
Making C-Kermit 5A(182) BETA-4 for NeXT...
make wermit  "CFLAGS= -DNEXT -DNOSETBUF -DTCPSOCKET -DDYNAMIC -DLCKDIR   -O -w"  
"LIBS = -lsys_s"
cc -DNEXT -DNOSETBUF -DTCPSOCKET -DDYNAMIC -DLCKDIR   -O -w -c ckcmai.c
/usr/include/sys/time.h:106: time.h: No such file or directory
/usr/include/libc.h:8: time.h: No such file or directory
*** Exit 1
Stop.
*** Exit 1
Stop.
king/cku182> 


I'm a novice to C, and simply don't understand the library problems I had.
It seems that time.h is calling itself at line 106, which is peculiar enough,
but then it can't find itself!  

At the suggestion of a colleague, I modified the CFLAGS to include
"-l/lib/libsys_s.a", but got the same result.

Can someone tell me what's going on?  Many thanks!  Once i get it compiled,
I'll gladly make the current C-Kermit for NeXT to whomever would like it.

--
Prof. Jeff MacKie-Mason	    internet: jmm@econ.lsa.umich.edu
Dept. of Economics                bitnet:   usergc76@umichum
Univ. of Michigan                 phone:        313-764-7438      
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220          fax:          313-763-9181      
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Subject: Re: WangDAT: How to fseek() ?
Keywords: cron
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management
Date: 29 Jul 92 11:22:01 PDT


> There is no "built-in" support for random seeking to blocks on DAT
> tape media, but it is not too difficult to issue "raw" SCSI commands
> to the tape driver with the appropriate commands to perform the
> seeking.  

Yes, but the question remains: WHAT ARE THE COMMANDS TO DO SO FOR WANGDATS?

(I got 4 messages asking me to forward any responses; unfortunately I have not
received any). Again, has anybody written C functions that can substitute for
fseek() and ftell() (probably over the whole tape, rather than a file, which
would be just fine).

I can no longer get a hold of the author of Safteynet, nor will Safetynet do
what I need: maintaining data-bases to be read by programs. I do not primarily
want to increase dump/tar/etc speed!!

/ivo welch
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Subject: Re: WangDAT: How to fseek() ?
Summary: 
Expires: 
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Distribution: 
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management
Keywords: cron
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: FTP Unatended ???
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:57:49 GMT
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada

Paul Woods writes
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to write  a script that will ftp files from a machine here on my  
> campus.  The files are generated on a weekly basis and also on a monthly  
basis.   
> I would like to have the script run from cron and then take care of the  
> login,password, work it's way through the directories,"get" each of the files  
> and then send me a mail message with the results.
> 
> DO any of you have a similar script that I could have so that I don't have to  
> write it from scratch?

See package called bftp.tar.Z
From: amm@NeXT.COM (Alan M. Marcum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Turning off SCSI devices and Rel 2.1
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:05:11 GMT
Reply-To: amm@NeXT.COM (Alan M. Marcum)

Bob Peirce #305 writes
> I have an HSD scanner at the end of my SCSI chain.  Since I don't
> use it all the time ... I like to turn it off...
> Something I haven't tried is to actually disconnect the scanner
> from the CD drive and plug the SCSI terminator in.  That doesn't
> seem like a good thing to do on a running system...

The SCSI bus is actually an active bus.  To function correctly,
all devices on the bus should be powered on, the cables should
have the proper impedence, and the bus should be terminated at
both ends.  A *very* short bus can be run with termination only
at one end (e.g., just the on-board disk, which has a terminator
on it).

If a device doesn't receive power, it might not pass the bus
signals through correctly.  If it's at the end of the chain, the
terminator probably requires power to operate correctly.

For the same reason you shouldn't remove a device from the SCSI
bus while the system is running, your shouldn't power off a
SCSI device while the system is running.  Yes, these things
MIGHT work.  But, do you want to risk your data?  We've seen
instances where an improperly terminated SCSI bus can lead
to data corruption on the internal hard disk....

What to do?  Talk with the scanner vendors and ask them to
provide a "standby" mode, where the SCSI bus receives the
proper power, but the scanning light is shut off. (Caveat:
there might be scanners which do this already, and there
might be SCSI devices which handle bus signals and termination
when powered off.  Check with the device manufacturer to
be certain.)
--
Alan M. Marcum
NeXT Tech Support
amm@NeXT.COM
From: bruce@tssnext.rmNUG.ORG
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Syntax for .forward file?
Date: 29 Jul 92 05:14:20 GMT
Reply-To: <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> (Bruce Gingery)
Organization: Total System Software

In <1992Jul27.200734.26489@terminator.cc.umich.edu> 
	jmm@king.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Jeffrey K. MacKie-Mason) writes:
:>Can someone point me to documentation for .forward files?  I've used Digital  
:>Librarian to search all of the NeXT docs, FAQ, NeXTAnswers...

irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe) writes:
: 
: If you're going to manage a Unix-type system, buy yourself some of
: the normal documentation:
: 1. Buy Evi Nemeth's (with 2 others) _Unix System Administration
: Handbook._
: 2. Join Usenix and buy its BSD Unix manual set.
 
: Here's my .forward file; I hope it helps:
: |/usr/local/bin/deliver irving
: 
: Here's an older version with two recipients:
: irving@happy-man.com, |/Net/beauty/usr/local/bin/newmail irving

   While I must agree that external documentation DOES help a lot, the above
original post raises a question WHY Jeffrey didn't find the entries in the 
Unix on-line manual (perhaps didn't have it selected?)...

A quick grep of the on-line Unix manuals finds...

VACATION(1)	    UNIX Programmer's Manual	      VACATION(1)

	( portions deleted )

     For example, your .forward file might have:

	  \eric, "|vacation eric"

     which would send messages to you (assuming your login name
     was eric) and send a message back to the sender.

     Vacation expects a file .vacation.msg in your home directory
     containing a message to be sent back to each sender.  It
     should be an entire message (including headers).  For exam-
     ple, it might say:

	  From: eric@ucbmonet.Berkeley.EDU (Eric Allman)
	  Subject: I am on vacation
	  Delivered-By-The-Graces-Of: the Vacation program

	  I am on vacation until July 22.  If you have something urgent,
	  please contact Joe Kalash <kalash@ucbingres.Berkeley.EDU>.
	       --eric

     This message will only be sent once a week to each unique
     sender... 

And...

ALIASES(5)	    UNIX Programmer's Manual	       ALIASES(5)

	(again portions deleted)

     After aliasing has been done, local and valid recipients who
     have a ``.forward'' file in their home directory have mes-
     sages forwarded to the list of users defined in that file.

Bruce
-- 
Bruce Gingery          bruce@TotSysSoft.com        (Total System Software)
InterNet:  Bruce.Gingery@p1.f5.n310.z1.fidonet.org (  Cheyenne, Wyoming )
       or  bruce@brucext.TotSysSoft.com
NeXT-Mail: bruce@tssnext.rmNUG.org  < -or- > bruce@TotSysSoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: unrecoverable operation really recoverable?
Reply-To: eps@cs.sfsu.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 06:52:10 GMT

In article <1992Jul19.154807.3065@afs.com> greg@afs.com
	(Gregory H. Anderson) writes:
>You now have a NetInfo domain named 'network' that you don't really need.  
>Replacing hostconfig causes it to be ignored, but if you want to reclaim  
>the disk space, go to /etc/netinfo (as root) and 'rm -r network.nidb'.

ONLY if NetInfo isn't running (i.e. booted single-user).  If
NetInfo is running (as will be normally), the proper command
would be

	nidomain -d network

					-=EPS=-
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From: lemke@MITL.COM (Kennedy Lemke)
Subject: Repairing bad magnetic SCSI disk blocks?
Originator: lemke@narnia.MITL.COM
Organization: Matsushita Information Technology Laboratory, Princeton, NJ
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:04:54 GMT

Hello:

I have a NeXT with a SEAGATE ST1480 400MB scsi disk.  The disk has
been getting "bread" errors a couple blocks of the disk (for
example, from /usr/adm/messages:)

	Jul 27 13:57:30 arrakis mach:     SCSI Block in error = 482444; Partition a F.S. sector 241062

And the machine crashes with SCSI errors ever more frequently.
Is there a utility I can use to map out the bad blocks on
this disk?  It seems like /usr/etc/disk is the right utility,
but the "bad" command only seems to work on opticals.  Is
there another utility that will do this, or is my only option
to replace the disk?  Thanks.

				Kennedy Lemke
				Network and UNIX Systems Administrator
				Postmaster
				Matsushita Information Technology Laboratory
				182 Nassau Street, Third Floor
				Princeton, New Jersey  08542
Work Phone: (609) 497-4600
Fax Phone:  (609) 497-4013	Email: lemke@MITL.COM
From: basiji@milton.u.washington.edu (David Basiji)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Turning off SCSI devices and Rel 2.1
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:09:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: milton.basiji.711986940
Organization: University of Washington

olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson) writes:

>In <basiji.711941162@milton> basiji@milton.u.washington.edu (David Basiji) writes:
>| I have a 90PRO transportable and I had to open the small vented front
>| panel and throw a two-position switch so the NeXT could see the Bernoulli
>| as a removable device.  Seems the default position (which suits SGI and 
>| others) of the switch is as non-removeable.  This panel is about 3/4"

>Drives with removable media should be so marked in the inquiry command
>(presumably this is what the switch controls).  Other than our older
>systems that had a bogus bias against removable media for the boot
>device (only), SGI's OS has no problem with devices that say that they
>have removable media.
>--
>Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
>because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
>    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com

Though the Bernoulli literature explains that only early Sun OS's 
had this problem, it implicated all SGI OS versions.  No slight on
SGI intended (by me, anyway).  Perhaps you folks should contact Iomega
corp to set the record straight.  My literature is dated April 1992
and the phone number given is 1-800-456-5522.
-- 
David Basiji 
"C neophyte, Bioengineering Grad Student, Internet Personality"

email: basiji@u.washington.edu          
NeXTmail: basiji@larry.pathology.washington.edu

		"Whining is just anger coming out of a very small hole."
            --Stuart Smalley
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From: lga@sandman.stanford.edu(Laurent Amon)
Subject: Re: disappearing home icons?
Reply-To: amon@cs.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 19:14:32 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.155712.5633@rtsg.mot.com> skrbec@tophat4.rtsg.mot.com  
(Brad Skrbec) writes:
>  I've had this peculiar problem at home, and haven't
>  been able to figure it out.  For one account on my
>  NeXT, when I move the browser to other people's home
>  directories, I get a folder icon, rather than the
>  "multiple homes" icon.  All of the other accounts
>  seem to work correctly, just this one has the problem.
>  
>  What gives?  Any ideas?

On my system, this happens only for a 'guest' account, which I have  
invalidated. It seems that if you don't have the correct home directory set for  
the account, or it is invalidated, you get the folder icon. Do 
nidump passwd .
to check.

Hope it helps,

Lga.
---
                                       |"I don't know what it's called, but
Laurent Amon                           | we're doing one about going to see 
       e-mail: amon@cs.stanford.edu    | a wizard. Something about following
           lga@sandman.stanford.edu    | a yellow sick toad. (Moving Pictures)
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From: wbrand@tigger (Willy Brandsdorfer)
Subject: Re: NFS to IBM mainframe
Reply-To: wbrand@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:05:42 GMT

In article <1682B1340D.C1899011@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU>  writes:
> Hi,
>    I got my turbo Nextstation about 4 months ago.  The system people  
here
> at work are letting me have a small amount of the our IBM mainframes  
disk
> space.  It is running VMNFS and that seems to be working fine.  The  
problem
> that I am having is that when I issue the following mount:
>  
>    mount -o ro,soft umslvma.umsl.edu:c1899011.191,ro,password=mypassword
>      /u/ben/test
>  
> It seems that VMNFS needs the password to the account that is holding  
the
> disk space.  The problem is that when users do a 'df' is shows all the
> stuff after the word soft.  Does anyone out there know how I can fix  
this
> becuse I can't let people see my password to this account.  Any help
> would be great.
>  
>  
>              Ben Pflanz (c1899011@umslvma.umsl.edu)

Look at the MOUNTPW command in VMNFS. It was created to address this  
situation.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
William Brandsdorfer            | UUCP:    !uunet!shearson.com!wbrand
Lehman Brothers                 | INET:    wbrand@shearson.com
388 Greenwich St.               | Voice:   (212) 464-3835
New York, N.Y. 10013            | 
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From: sfl@muttley.ucsd.edu (Susan Fichera)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: failure of host name resolution
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:22:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Department of Music, UC San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: muttley.ucsd.edu

Has someone solved the following problem simply?  I have NeXTs behind a
Sun gateway. I have a resolv.conf file that lists various alternative
nameservers, the gateway being at the top of the list.  If the gateway
goes down and then comes back up, the NeXTs are left in a state where
they can not resolve any host names that are not explicitly listed in
/etc/hosts. They do not refer to the gateway nameserver or any of the
other nameservers listed in resolv.conf. The solution has been to
reboot the NeXTs after the gateway comes back on the net. I'm looking
for a better way.  


Thanks for any suggestions.

Susan Fichera
sfl@grasshopper.ucsd.edu
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From: patrice@cs.sfu.ca (Patrice Belleville)
Subject: Re: Emacs environment variable lost
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: cct
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:56:33 GMT

From article <CMOORE.92Jul24092902@zenobia.mit.edu>, by cmoore@zenobia.mit.edu (Christopher B. Moore):
> 
> I've noticed (while installing the Auc-TeX package) that evaluation of
> (getenv "HOSTTYPE") in an Emacs2.1 window started by clicking on the
> Emacs2.1 icon in the workspace returns nil.  However, in an Emacs2.1
> window started from the commandline it returns "next".  What gives?
> 
> Christopher B. Moore
> cmoore@maggie.mit.edu


	Well, the problem is that the  workspace does not  run your .login or
your .cshrc.   So programs  started from it  will not  have access  to   your
favorite environment variables. One fix is to add the following lines to your
.emacs file:

(setq process-environment (append
        process-environment
	'("HOSTTYPE=next" "OTHERVAR=othervalue" [more of these])))


-- 
/***************************************************************************\
|* Patrice Belleville 					 patrice@cs.sfu.ca *|
|*   --- Simon Fraser University is not responsible for my mistakes. ---   *|
\***************************************************************************/
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From: robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca)
Subject: UUCICO problem
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Distribution: none
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:51:16 GMT

 have a problem setting up UUCP. I've configured the necessary files but 
when I went to test the procedure with /usr/lib/uucp/uucico (etc) command
in the terminal I got an assert message to the effect that I lacked a LCK file, 
or that uucp could not create, and thus not access, a certain LCK file. There ar
e no lock directories anywhere. I recall deleting a LCK file as per NeXT
manual to free my serial line. How can I correct this? UUCP or UUCICO
will not run at all

Thanks

Robert de Lucca

robinc@hcf.jhunix.jhu.edu

delucca@bouhours.fre.jhu.edu
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From: jblevins@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Jim Blevins)
Subject: Problems networking a slab via twisted-pair port
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 08:37:48 GMT

I am having little success connecting a NeXTstation to the net via the
twisted-pair ethernet port.  I have added the IP address of the
machine, the local router and name server to the /etc/hosts file, and
also the appropriate addresses to the /etc/hostconfig file.  However,
I keep getting the message: "network disabled or you're not connected
to it".  (The physical connections seem fine, and I will check out the
cable later.) In its former site the machine was successfully
connected to a Sun network via the thin ethernet connection, though I
cannot tell from consulting the backup copies of the various /etc/rc*
and /etc/host* files what needs to be set for the current network,
except that the local name server does not seem to be identified
anywhere.

ANY help or suggestions would be much appreciated.

Jim Blevins
jblevins@uniwa.cc.uwa.oz.au
-- 
Jim Blevins				jblevins@uniwa.cc.uwa.oz.au
Centre for Linguistics			phone: 61-9-380-2865
University of Western Australia 	fax:   61-9-380-1062
Nedlands, W.A. 6009
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jmm@king.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Jeffrey K. MacKie-Mason)
Subject: Syntax for .forward fils
Keywords: mail,sendmail,.forward
Reply-To: jmm@king.econ.lsa.umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:59:30 GMT


Can someone point me to documentation of the .forward file for rerouting mail?   
I've searched (with Digital Librarian) through the man pages, NeXT docs, FAQs  
and NeXTAnswers and find only one reference, in an example in the vacation man  
page.  I'd like to see a precise statement of what .forward can do, and the  
correct syntax.

--
Prof. Jeff MacKie-Mason	    internet: jmm@econ.lsa.umich.edu
Dept. of Economics                bitnet:   usergc76@umichum
Univ. of Michigan                 phone:        313-764-7438      
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220          fax:          313-763-9181      
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: hickman@cse.unl.edu (Hubert B. Hickman)
Subject: mail problems
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 02:40:34 GMT

I have an email question for you.  A colleague is attempting
to configure his NeXT to receive mail via Internet.  He has 
been assigned an IP number, etc., and is able to telnet out
to other machines, ftp, etc. without a problem.  Other people can
telnet into his machine, and the "finger" command works fine.
However, mail does not work as it should. This machine is 
on a non-NetInfo network (at present). 
 
From the transcript of a  mail -v command, it seems that
the machine name is being constructed incorrectly.  That is,
instead of hostname.institution.edu the machine name
is hostname.institution.edu.institution.edu.  

Is there something simple that needs to be fixed here?

Thanks,

Hubert Hickman
hickman@cse.unl.edu
From: anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar Mohammed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: SCSI Error
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:25:46 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon


I have a Bernoulli 90MB Transportable drive.  It works just fine with
one of my nextstations.  It doesn't work at all with a second nextstation.
On the second 'station, it terminates a SCSI bus with one other device
(a 660 Meg external drive which I boot off of).  When I boot, I get the 
following SCSI error:

s0 (2,0): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:7 scsi status:0x0

After booting, when I insert a cartridge, Workspace doesn't mount
the cartridge.

As I said before, the drive works fine with the first station.
The only difference I can see between the two 'station is that the 
ROM monitor versions differ (I brought this up in an earlier post):  
the second station uses NeXT ROM monitor 2.1v59 while the first 
station uses NeXT ROM Monitor 2.4v65.  This leads me to guess
that perhaps there was an incompatibility problem with an older
ROM versions?  Software-wise, the two stations are identical.

Thanks,
anwar

-- 
Anwar Mohammed                           Graduate Student
anwar+@cs.cmu.edu  (NeXTmail welcome)    School of Computer Science
Voice: +1 412 268 3043                   Carnegie-Mellon University
Fax:   +1 412 681 5739                   Pittsburgh, PA  15213-3890
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gitlin@sophia.smith.edu (Carole Gitlin)
Subject: Internet problems
Organization: Smith College
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:17:50 GMT

Hi,

I've been working on getting my single NeXT hooked up into my school's
network.  So far, I have been successful in getting telnet, rlogin, and
ftp working from between the NeXT and local computers (Suns and Microvaxes).
I can also send mail from the NeXT to the local computers.  However, I
can not access any computers outside of school (I get a Network unreachable
message) and I can not send mail to the NeXT (I get an Unknown host error
message when I send to it.)  I have been told (with regards to the mail 
problem) that it might have to do with the I named the machine.  It had
been named just machine.smith.edu, but I was told it was supposed to be
machine.csc.smith.edu.  I changed this /etc/hosts file to the correct name,
but things still aren't working.  I also checked the sendmail.cf file, but
things seem to be correct there.  If any one has any suggestions on how to
get both email working to the NeXT and how to get the NeXT to be able to
access outside computers I would greatly appreciate it.  Thanks!

Carole
gitlin@sophia.smith.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: erikp@.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Erik Peterson)
Subject: Networking/mail problem
Reply-To: erikp@.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Erik Peterson)
Organization: NCR Corporation, Rancho Bernardo
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:42:27 GMT

I have an old Next Box running system 1.0 and I am having
trouble getting it to receive mail.  It will send mail out   
no problem, and I generally have no trouble loggin onto
other machines from it or vice -versa.  The main problem
I have is that I cannot seem to receive mail in any of the accounts.

I cannot open the mail manager program (I try as root, but it gives
me a window which only says ".exiting") I try to use NetInfoManager
and I get a NetInfo Error saying "Domain selected failed to open".

Also the machine will not accept remote logins to root, only to
a user account.

I do not know where to go from here, I get no support from
the company in the use of the machine nor will they give me the
$ to upgrade it. (I'm only here as a summer intern).  The mail people
don't know whether they should list my machine as being uucp, smtp, etc?

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance for any input.

-Erik Peterson

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