From: hrs@aber.ac.uk (Herbert Martin Sauro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon Graphics
Date: 26 Aug 92 10:20:31 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

In article <l9l8e3INNhhf@aludra.usc.edu> baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.124510.2938@aber.ac.uk> hrs@aber.ac.uk (Herbert Martin Sauro) writes:
>>Having now seen the Falcon at first hand (ie at the show) I was a bit
>>disappointed at the graphics. The 640x480 at 256 colour appeared to
>>be quite stable, almost as good as mono on an SM124. The higher colour
>>modes however, weren't very good and a number of the monitors showed
>>flicker which is a shame.
>
>	Was this on a SC1224 monitor or were you seeing flicker on a Multisync?
>BTW, anyone know what the line-doubling graphics mode is?
>

The monitors I saw which flickered weren't the SC1224 they may have been just
ordinary VGA monitors (not Atari anyway).

>> But I guess with 640x480 2356 colour at least
>>we're now up to Mac and PC standard. The sound system was very good
>>though, I don't use my ST for music but the sound coming from the 
>>Falcon was as good as a CD.
>>
>>I guess everyone knows that the GEM interface has gone '3-D', i.e 3D borders
>>on windows and 3D buttons just like Windows. Unfortunately they didn't
>>seem to be showing MultiTOS, at least on the general display models.
>
>	This is nice, but seeing as how soon MT should be out, I doubt if 
>TOS 2.07 (still haven't figured out why it isn't 3.07) will get high sales
>volume.  BTW, anyone know if it has the CTS/RTS bug?  Will MT incorporate the
>3-D look of 2.07?
>

Interestingly, the Falcons at the show were running (According to the
Atari guy), TOS 4.0.

>>I did notice some other companies showing what I think was MultiTOS
>>(it wasn't MultiGEM).
>
>	This was probably just (ha!) MiNT.  Shouldn't look or act much 
>different when MT comes out - except multiple GEM windows...
>
>> What was nice to see was the lower price for a
>>base model of the TT at 2000DM (this wasn't a special show price either).
>>And Atari didn't show any STEs.
>
>	Excellent.  The question now is, how much are TT video (24bit) cards
>running for?  Oh, does anyone know what the max resolution of the PTC(TT color
>monitor) are?  640x480, or will it do 800x600?
>

I think the PTC can go upto 800x600, but it's not a very good monitor.
My PTC flickers a lot (been replaced soon) which I thought was just
me, but even the Atari PTCs at the show were fickering - dark lines
running down the screen. Unfortunately the TT/MSTe graphics boards are still
in the 800-900DM range. What I'm thinking of doing now if to go for the
large mono monitor which is only 600 pounds and should be great for
C dev work.

>	A couple months ago, someone posted a list of TT/MSTe video cards that
>are available.  Would someone mind posting an updated list?  I would prefer
>prices in US$, but not neccessary if fairly recent exchange rates are posted
>too (hey, I have a calculator! :).  Would it be asking to much to include a 
>(US) vendor for the prices quoted?  
>
>>
>>Herb
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>>Herbert Sauro                                   e-mail: hrs@aber.ac.uk
>>Biological Sciences                              phone: +44 970 622353
>>Univesity College of Wales                                                    
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mike
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Herbert Sauro                                   e-mail: hrs@aber.ac.uk
Biological Sciences                              phone: +44 970 622353
Univesity College of Wales