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From: dmturne@ptsfa.PacBell.COM (Dave Turner)
Subject: Re: How to total file sizes for selected files?
Reply-To: dmturne@PacBell.COM (Dave Turner)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 08:31:26 GMT

From the keyboard of gasser@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Nathan Gasser):
:I'm wondering how to print the total size for only selected files.
:For example, "du" gives the total space occupied by all files in
:this directory.  I want only those files, say, that end in .zip.
:
:% du
:. 2883
:
:% du -s *.zip
:123  file1.zip
:188  arc2.zip
:13   game.zip
:
:See, what I want is for the above example to print the total
:space for the .zip files, ie. 324.

Assuming find -ls output resembling this:

(inum  block mode      links  user  group      bytes  mtime        name)
 38976  544 -rw-rw-r--  1 tchrist  swtools    531409 Dec 15  1989 ./etc/hosts


You might try wc:

	wc -c *.zip | sed -n '$p'



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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: bill@Celestial.COM (Bill Campbell)
Subject: Re: recursive grep'ing
Organization: Celestial Software, Mercer Island, WA
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:21:41 GMT

In <BAB.92Dec28110925@se39.wg2.waii.com> bab@se39.wg2.waii.com (Brian Button) writes:

........
>Ji-Tzay> find . -name "*" -print | xargs grep "YOUR PATTERN"

>You should be able to drop the -name part, since you want all names.

>Just use find . -print | xargs grep "PATTERN"

This would merrily grep your directories too which probably isn't
what you want.

	find . -type f -print | xargs grep 'pattern' /dev/null

Only looks at the files and the /dev/null argument insures that
grep will always have at least two files as arguments so that it
will display the filename.

Bill
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From: m212022@regen.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (Wolfgang Welke)
Subject: Re: How to total file sizes for selected files?
Organization: Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH, Hamburg
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 18:46:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.083126.26511@ptsfa.PacBell.COM> dmturne@PacBell.COM (Dave Turner) writes:
>From the keyboard of gasser@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Nathan Gasser):
>:I'm wondering how to print the total size for only selected files.
>:For example, "du" gives the total space occupied by all files in
>:this directory.  I want only those files, say, that end in .zip.
>:
>:% du
>:. 2883
>:
>:% du -s *.zip
>:123  file1.zip
>:188  arc2.zip
>:13   game.zip
>:
>:See, what I want is for the above example to print the total
>:space for the .zip files, ie. 324.
>
>Assuming find -ls output resembling this:
>
>(inum  block mode      links  user  group      bytes  mtime        name)
> 38976  544 -rw-rw-r--  1 tchrist  swtools    531409 Dec 15  1989 ./etc/hosts
>
>You might try wc:
>
>	wc -c *.zip | sed -n '$p'
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There are reasons not to use 'wc':
Files are read by wc, whereas du uses directory information.
On systems with some data migration facility it's even worse,
because wc causes files to be reloaded from the backup system
(i.e. tapes).
If du wants to summarize directories, why not give it one?

   mkdir temporary
   ln *.zip temporary
   du temporary
   rm temporary/*
   du temporary

The second du gives the size of the directory without files
(usually one, if there are not too many *.zip files)
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From: isc30174@nusunix1.nus.sg (MUI WHYE KEE)
Subject: Source Code Required
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 11:56:00 GMT

I was just wondering if anyone out there could help me with this.

You see, I need the source code for the function getopt() ?

Or anyone knows where I can find it ?? FTP sites ?

PLease email the information to me.

Thank you and best reagards.



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From: jpr@jpradley.jpr.com (Jean-Pierre Radley)
Subject: Re: searching a file
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1993 07:07:21 GMT
Organization: Unix in NYC

In article <1993Jan3.021839.10462@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> sscrivan@nyx.cs.du.edu (steve scrivano) writes:
>I want to search my /usr/dict/words and pull out lines by the occurrence
>of certain letters in the words for example:  all lines that contain
>no more than "2 l's" or no more than 3 "r's" or no more than one "n", etc.
>How would I accomplish this considering letters can fall in different
>places within a word?  A bin shell approach would be preferred.
>

Here's a command to print all words in /usr/dict/words having 1, 2 or 3 "l"s:

</usr/dict/words tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' |
sed -n '
/^\([^l]*l[^l]*\)\1\{0,2\}$/p
'

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From: ray@Celestial.COM (Ray Jones)
Subject: Re: Performing simple math on a numeric file from csh
Organization: Celestial Software, Mercer Island, WA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:20:39 GMT

In <1992Dec17.093546.9935@netcom.com> dman@netcom.com (Dallman Ross) writes:

>I, Dallman Ross (dman@netcom.com), wrote:
>: I am trying to understand awk, but the man pages are driving me nuts. 
>: Anyway, I have a couple of simple files with numerics in them that I
>: want to do some math with.  This doesn't have to be via awk, but I've
>: been told that's the ticket.  Anyway, I use csh.
>:  
>: Here's what one of the files looks like:
>:  
>: > login:  Dec 15 21:40:01
>: > logout: Dec 15 21:40:18
>: > 
>: > login:  Dec 15 21:41:11
>: > logout: Dec 15 21:41:48
>: > 
>: > login:  Dec 15 22:20:08
>: > logout: Dec 15 22:31:44
>: > 
>:  
>: (No >'s in the file, of course.)  So, I want to subtract the
>: penultimate time figure from the last figure, and come up with
>: "00:11:36" as the answer for time logged in.  I only need to do the
>: math on the last pair.  The rest is just a running log.
>:  
>: Thanks for any advice.

>Still hoping for some help on this.  One person did email me, but I
>haven't seen any tips on command lines yet.

I think awk may be the easier way to go, but I don't know much about it
either.  I would use a bourne shell script with something like the
following:

tail -2 logfile>tmp.$$	# get the last entries
set `grep login tmp.$$|sed -e "s/:/ /"`	# where 
hin=$4 	#hour of login
min=$5 	#minute of login
sin=$6 	#second of login
set `grep logout tmp.$$|sed -e "s/:/ /"`	# where
hout=$4 	#hour of logout
mout=$5 	#minute of logout
sout=$6 	#second of logout
# now you can use "bc" to do all the numbers
t_hr=`echo "$hout-$hin" |bc`
t_min=`echo "$mout-$min" |bc`
t_sec=`echo "$sout-$sin" |bc`
echo "login hours = $t_hr"
echo "login minutes = $t_min"
echo "login seconds = $t_sec"
rm tmp.$$
# crude, but it should work.
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From: sscrivan@nyx.cs.du.edu (steve scrivano)
Subject: Re: Printer Escape codes
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 01:14:18 GMT

In article <mohamad.725782260@cwis> mohamad@cwis.unomaha.edu (Mohamad Fadlallah) writes:
>
>I'm trying to write a small ksh script to control a printer setup,
>for example ESC M or HEX (1B, 4D), HEX (9B, CD) sets Elite characters
>on the printer.  Any idea on how to implement this in any way?
>
>I'd really appreciate your responses.
>
>
>mohamad@cwis.unomaha.edu 

Well I don't know about ksh, but you could assign certain print codes to
simple ascii codes similar to nroff like ".print12" could be elite and
then you could write a "sed" filter that would replace those user codes
with the real printer escape sequences on the way out to the printer.

Thus something like this "cat file|filter|lp.  Filter would be a series
of "sed" scripts making the substitutions on the way to the printer.  This
way, users don't have to deal with print codes when using an editor like
"vi", etc., and "filter" does all of the interpreting by replacing ".print12"
that a user imbeds in the text with the real sequences that drive the printer.

Steve Scrivano
sscrivan@nyx.cu.du.edu
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From: asriniva@vela.acs.oakland.edu (MONK)
Subject: What happens to ur Login Process when an asnyc connection is Disrupted
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 22:31:03 GMT

hi folks
I have the following questions regarding a modem connection.

I had dialed up to an communication  server thru 2400 modem, Thru which
i was connected to an internet host, The line got discoonected,
Now what happens to the login process now, I know u can't connect back to
the same process, Is it automatically killed ?

Can someone elucidate clearly describing the communication system
Like to know more how an communication server handles, How Unix handles
these things ?

email responses to asriniva@vela.acs.oakland.edu

Bye

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From: dpayton@qcinet.Gwinnett.COM (Doug Payton)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: The Revenge of CSH
Date: 31 Dec 92 15:42:02 GMT
Organization: Quality Consultants, Inc.

In article <Bzz748.GDK@csn.org> bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:
>
>  The reason for this reply is that I'm one of a number of folks working
>on a csh clone (called GSH, and for the GNO/ME system for the Apple IIgs).
>We intend to fix most if not all of these problems as we implement csh
>from scratch on a 16-bit platform.  But I take offense to the manner in 
>which csh's bugs are listed, and then be stated "csh sucks, is 
>totally unworthy", basically.  
>  So, let the flamefest begin.

Hope this isn't a flame, but I did notice a pattern in your responses to
Christiansen's case against 'csh'.  Examples:

>  Possibilities that could be added to csh, if anyone cared to.

>  Trivially fixed, by making >& _only_ redirect stderr, and having
>the shell check appropriately for > and >& going to the same file.
>I envison, oh, 10 lines of code? 

>  Okay, add a read statement to csh.

>  I.e., csh has a bug.  Not a design deficiency, but a bug.

   [NOTE:  I saw a lot of these --^ ]

>  Design limitation (gosh, finally got one).

>  And it could be added to csh with about two lines of code.

>   A valid point (finally!).  But, it could still be fixed pretty easily.

>  They're bugs, so they could be fixed.

You've apparently missed the entire point.  Tom's point is 'csh' is
flawed -now-; don't use it.  Others -have- done rewrites of 'csh' and he
acknowledges that they are OK. Example:

>> SUMMARY
>> While some vendors have fixed some of the csh's bugs (the tcsh also does
>> much better here),....

etc.  

He pointed out problems, you said they could be fixed, but the point is
that they aren't fixed, and thus 'csh' shouldn't be used.
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From: erl@powell.cs.jt.dk (Erik Bruijn Larsen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: How to find IP name knowing IP adress?
Date: 23 Dec 92 14:49:34 GMT
Organization: Jydsk TELEFON

Test_News@uci.agh.edu.pl (News testing account) writes:


> For example : I have adress 149.156.96.9
> How to find name of machine ?

Try typing:
% hostname

If you are running NIS and want the name of another host, then type:
% ypcat hosts



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From: dman@netcom.com (Dallman Ross)
Subject: Question about .forward
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:09:28 GMT

If I have a .forward file directing a cc of mail to another system, can
I safely rm mbox without fear of losing mail that comes right at that
moment?  Or does the .forward work only *after* mail is deposited in the
spool, which could result in such a loss?

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From: mmannan@hfglobe.intel.com (Mohammed Mannan)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Is perl Version 5.X available?
Keywords: Perl - version 5.0
Date: 22 Dec 92 00:17:03 GMT
Followup-To: mmannan@sparcy.intel.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Intel Corporation

Does anyone know anything about Perl version 5 - if it exists - where 
can I lay my hands on it.

I would appriciate if someone could mail the ftp site to me at 
mmannan@sparcy.intel.com - alongwith sending a general reply on
the newsgroup.

Thanks in advance,

Mannan Mohammed.
Intel Corporation,
Chandler, AZ.
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From: scowen@wfpc3.la.asu.edu (Paul A. Scowen)
Subject: Re: PS to Gif?
Organization: Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, Arizona State University
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:37:57 GMT

In article <1hslt1INNcmp@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>, meroth@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Ansgar Meroth) writes:
|> |> In article <Dec.11.13.52.38.1992.3497@gnumath.rutgers.edu> lukeh@gnumath.rutgers.edu (Luke Higgins) writes:
|> |> 
|> |> >Is there any way to convert from a PS file to a gif format. 

|> the easiest way is to run ghostscript ( a public domain ps-viewer ) on
|> a high res. workstation screen and create a x-window-dump of it -

This can look rather crappy, the best conversion I've seen is using convert
as part of the ImageMagick package, also PD.

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From: medin@manta.nosc.mil (Ted Medin)
Subject: HELP - where is unzip that will handle latest os2 unzip (v 5?)
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 04:58:55 GMT


 Would like to unzip os2 files on our unix bsd machine, just a pointer
to the files would be sufficient.
73, ted
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: fjh@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fergus James HENDERSON)
Subject: Re: The Revenge of CSH
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:12:26 GMT

huang1@husc11.harvard.edu (Howard Huang) writes:

>bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:
>
>     I am continually shocked and dismayed to see people not have
>   command line editing, arrow-key history, job control, or many
>   of the other things that csh (tcsh) provides and /bin/sh does not.
>
>Most people (I think) agree that csh is better as an _interactive_
>shell than sh.  The tchrist article specifically focuses on csh
>_programming_.
>
>     [...list of things csh doesn't have...]
>     Possibilities that could be added to csh, if anyone cared to.
>     ...
>     Okay, add a read statement to csh.
>
>Isn't this what Tom is trying to say?  Of course new features can be
>added, but then the thing will cease to be csh; it'll be a nonstandard
>derivative (for a while at least).  People could add history, aliases
>and job control to sh, too.

... and what's more, they have.
Try bash, it's really a very nice interactive shell, *and* also
a good script programming language.

>I must say that it would be nice if Bourne shell could do @ i++,
>instead of $i=`expr $i + 1`.

In bash, you can do 
	let i=i+1
or you can even declare a particular variable as an integer, in which
case all assignments are treated as 'let' statements:
	declare -i counter
	...
	counter=counter+1
but when programming anything more than a one-off, it's usually best
to stick to the portable /bin/sh functionality rather than the bash
extensions. You get used to i=`expr $i + 1` pretty soon, it's probably
no more difficult than getting used to i++ after Pascal's i := i + 1.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: kbibb@maui.qualcomm.com (Ken Bibb)
Subject: Re: The Revenge of CSH
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 01:36:24 GMT

In <799@cebu.sbi.com> goldfish@cebu.sbi.com (P. Goldsmith) writes:

>In article <Bzz748.GDK@csn.org> bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:
>>
>>  The reason for this reply is that I'm one of a number of folks working
>>on a csh clone (called GSH, and for the GNO/ME system for the Apple IIgs).
>>We intend to fix most if not all of these problems as we implement csh
>>from scratch on a 16-bit platform.  But I take offense to the manner in 
>>which csh's bugs are listed, and then be stated "csh sucks, is 
>>totally unworthy", basically.  
>>  So, let the flamefest begin.
>>

>[deleted]

>If there exists a custom version of csh (tcsh, etc ...) then I can write
>NON_PORTABLE programs for that shell.  this still does not give me a general
>programming shell, since I can't guarantee its availability, and may not be
>able to install it everywhere in the world.

Who sez that tcsh is non-portable?  It is available on a number of platforms.
When you write a tcsh script it *is* portable: to other machines with tcsh
on them.  It's the same situation with bash.

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From: rdorich@jade.tufts.edu (Rob)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: How do you know if you receive a talk invitation?
Date: 23 Dec 92 01:48:37 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

OK, The only way you'll be able to do this is by changing the talk(d?)
program itself... it shouldn't be too difficult actually.  I don't
think talk dumps any info in any file.  Also, if you were to get catch
this request, then you wouldn't be able to respond to the request with
a talk command from a script, because talk checks if you are in an
interactive shell before doing anything (I guess there is always some
way around it)

Good luck,

Rob
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From: jpd@tardis.msu.edu (Joe P. DeCello)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Question about .forward
Date: 28 Dec 92 15:24:42 GMT
Reply-To: jpd@tardis.msu.edu
Organization: Michigan State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: tardis.cl.msu.edu

In article 10593@netcom.com, dman@netcom.com (Dallman Ross) writes:
]Dallman Ross (dman@netcom.com) wrote:
]: If I have a .forward file directing a cc of mail to another system, can
]: I safely rm mbox without fear of losing mail that comes right at that
]: moment?  Or does the .forward work only *after* mail is deposited in the
]: spool, which could result in such a loss?
]
]Whoops, I meant to say rm /usr/spool/mail/$USER file up there instead of
]"mbox."
]
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I know you can do this, and even if I am wrong, as long as /usr/spool/mail dir exists, $USER will
be recreated anyway, if it IS needed.
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From: ANSL000 <ANSL@UNB.CA>
Subject: UNIX SUPPLIER LIST is needed
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:33:24 GMT

 Hi,
     Can any one of you can send me a list of UNIX suppliers
(including Hardware and Software), especially for the Hewlett
Packard Appollo machine.  For your convenience, I am enclosing
the model we have, which is Hewlett Packard Appollo Series 400.
     The hardware we are interested is: tape driver and CD
ROM driver; The software we want is: C++ or C compiler together
with a Window development environment, like Motif.
     Thank you in advance for your time and help.

Heping Dai
Please send any response to the following email account:
     ansl@unb.ca
Thanks again.

Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: felixg@coop.com (Felix Gallo)
Subject: Re: The Revenge of CSH
Organization: Cooperative Computing, Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 20:32:29 GMT
Followup-To: comp.unix.questions

chet@odin.ins.cwru.edu (Chet Ramey) writes:

>Oh, I don't know.  Tom's a pretty cool guy.  I prefer to quote Chris
>Torek, myself:

>``The C shell is an object lesson in how not to write programs.''

While we're quoting, let's throw in my favorite quote from 
the Santa Cruz Operation's man page for their version of csh
under sysv 3.2.4:
[at the very end of the man page]

    "The || and && operators are reversed in this implementation."

spam% sleep 5 || echo oh my god it's full of stars
oh my god it's full of stars
spam% cat /vmunix | crypt | banner | sort | mail sco-support@sco.com

>Chet


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