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From: mhammond@bnr.ca (Mike Hammond)
Subject: Re: WIZARD Pirated on TV Again
Keywords: Wizard, movie, TV, paranormal
Reply-To: mhammond@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR Ottawa, Fibre Systems Development
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 16:55:46 GMT

In article <1elcc5INNpm8@gap.caltech.edu>, jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov) writes:
|> 
|> Except for the 1978 and 1979 Disney specials, the "Buckshot" pilot,
|> "Dick Clark's Bloopers", and a few interview shows, my work has
|> never appeared on TV.  Not legally, anyway.  And never on cable.
|> (Reports of any sightings are very much appreciated.)  On that note:

<some stuff deleted>

|> ...Oh well, it's nice to have your work seen, even if someone else gets
|> credit.  I guess.  And it's proof that "The Wizard of Speed and Time"
|> made it to Russia.  ("Get in line, NOW!")

First of all, you were responsible for ``Wizard of Speed and Time''? Then
I thank you for creating such a fine program. 

Secondly, yes,I have seen it, and it was on television. Cable television.
(Specifically, it was a couple of years ago, on the Canadian movie network
``SuperChannel'', on one of their free movie weekends.) So does this mean 
that they did it illegally?

|> -- "MJ-42"
|> _________________________________________ ___._`.*.'_._ ________
|>  Mike Jittlov - Wizard, etc        .   . +  * .o   o.* `.`. +.  
|>   Hollywood, CA 90026-2714        '   *  . ' ' |\^/|  `. * .  *
|> jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu   (: May All Your  \V/  Good Dreams
|>   <& alt.fan.mike-jittlov>     and Fine Wishes  /_\  Come True:)
|> ============================================== _/ \_ ===========
|> 

-- 
(By the way, please don't try to e-mail me between September and December
1992, because I won't receive it. Please post any responses instead.
Thanx. (However, feel free to e-mail any flames! :-) :-)

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From: PXF3@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Subject: Re: WoSaT posters!
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:39:09 GMT
 <1efjseINNbt1@gap.caltech.edu> <1992Nov23.050616.2258@nmsu.edu>
 <1992Nov23.141804.10310@e2big.mko.dec.com>
Organization: Penn State University

Steve's tube was stamped "received without contents." Hoho, that postal
service of ours has rubber stamps available for CYA purposes.

On Friday, I received a really nice packet of avian inventories for 81 state
parks in Pennsylvania (Yes, Virginia, there really is such a thing as a
helpful bureaucrat).  I know there were 81 because the cover letter said
"enclosed are 81..." and I had to count them.  The manila envelope was open!
I can't believe my guardian angel actually sat in a mail truck from
Harrisburg to Hollidaysburg, holding that envelope shut.  What a doll.

I just thought you appreciators of the weird and wonderful would appreciate
this.

Paula
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
From: pfeiffer@nmsu.edu (Joe Pfeiffer)
Subject: Re: WoSaT posters!
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:06:16 GMT

Mine arrived in perfect condition (thanks!).  It's actually still
sitting in its mailing tube waiting until I can get to a framing shop
(I have some fish ID posters my parents sent me some years ago that
were so mangled by the time I got them framed and hung that I had to
order new copies!  Mom and Dad will never know...).  This is why I
hadn't said anything yet...

It took two tries to convince USPS to send it to Mike AT ALL, but once
they did, they did no damage.  I got my mailing tube at a local
shipping supplies outlet.

-Joe.
From: lionel@quark.enet.dec.com (Steve Lionel)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Subject: Re: WoSaT posters!
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:18:04 GMT
Reply-To: lionel@quark.enet.dec.com (Steve Lionel)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH


My copy of Mike's poster (with exquisitely-done autograph) arrived last week 
in fine condition; thanks, Mike!  It is every bit as fabulous as Mike has
claimed (not that I ever doubted him.)  I was somewhat amused by the Post
Office in California having stamped the tube "received without contents",
but what the heck...

Even more amusing were the two sheets of press clippings Mike enclosed, which
included this gem from "The Hollywood Reporter":

	The Wizard of Speed and Time (drama-special effects)
	Producer Richard Kaye; director Mike Jittlove [sic];
	cast: Mike Jittlove, Paige Morr [more SIC], Richard
	Kaye, Brian Lucas.  An exciting story of the Old West
	when covered wagons carried pioneers from the East to
	the West in search of new lives on the frontier.

Mike, is there a story behind this one?

On an unrelated note, I just returned from a week at the enormous COMDEX
computer trade show in Las Vegas and saw a new Franklin pocket "electronic
book" that allowed you to look up information about movies.  Naturally, I
immediately keyed in "Jittlov" to see what it had, and it popped up with
a nice description of WOSAT, gave it three stars, and misspelled Paige
Moore's name.  I was told that the info was taken from some printed book.
--

Steve Lionel                    lionel@quark.enet.dec.com
SDT Languages Group
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, NH 03062
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From: mbkomor@anableps.berkeley.edu (M. Beth Komor)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov,rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: WIZARD Pirated on TV Again
Date: 21 Nov 1992 14:15:51 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: anableps.berkeley.edu
Summary: I Have The Answer!
Keywords: Wizard, movie, TV, paranormal jumpy-spiders of the Illuminati!

In article <1elcc5INNpm8@gap.caltech.edu> jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov) writes:
>[deleted]
>    COINCIDENCE? ...Or COSMIC PLAN?   

Jumpy-spiders...It's the *jumpy-spiders!*

>                                         <*>^<*>   YOU be the Judge!!

See! Look, I told ya! -They're *EVERYWHERE!!* 

:D

Best,

<*>^Meriday Beth^<*>
mbkomor@mica.berkeley.edu |$2/min. @ 900-329-4040 ext. 899 "-E.T. bill to
                                                             own phone!"


Organization: Senior, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:05:36 -0500 
From: Christopher Brian Cox <cc4b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Does Mike Like Dave?
	<1992Nov17.144331.16958@gtech.com>



Sorry - some of us only subscribe to 1 (ONE) alt.fan group.

This one.

Chris

(Who is this dave guy anyway?)


Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:07:19 -0500 
From: Elliott Conan Evans <ee0r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Does Mike Like Dave?
 <1992Nov16.194016.29398@den.mmc.com> <1992Nov17.144331.16958@gtech.com> <mew3.722013901@Isis.MsState.Edu>
	<1992Nov18.151713.22402@den.mmc.com>

doehr@magellan.den.mmc.com (Brett B. Doehr) writes:
> We may be talking two different 
> Mike-n-Dave clubs here.  My Dave is Barry, although I do enjoy
> Letterman when I stay up past my bedtime.  (I imagine that the 
> Wizard, given his nocturnal habits, could easily watch Letterman
> if he wished.)

I few months ago, Mike Jittlov posted some stuff about how various
network bogosities have prevented him from showing himself and his
work on the David Letterman show(s) in the past.

Mike was fairly good humored about the whole thing, as usual.

To my knowledge, Mike has made no comments to this group about
Dave Barry, but if he doesn't have an opinion about him, I'd be
surprised.

[please insert smileys for the Eeyore impaired]
{Smiley when you say that, pardner.}

------
Eeyore
"Even now, this text is affecting you in ways that may not be
 apparent for days, weeks, or even years." -Illuminatus Trilogy
From: nanook@psycho.fidonet.org (Keith Dickinson)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Subject: Vanishing Wizard
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 07:59:36 EDT
Organization: Psycho: The Usenet<->Fidonet Gateway of St. Pete Florida

 > From: jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov)
 > Date: 28 Oct 1992 11:17:07 GMT

 > But unless we miraculously get a millionaire financier, BJ0RN will be
 > filmed in the green hills of California, with fjords matted in, along
 > with the rest of the settlement.  The rest of the movie takes place
 > in Hollywood.  It's about contrasts.  Heaven, & hell.

Needless to say I'm investing in the Florida Lottery on a regular basis! ;)

(It's GOOD to be back!)

L8r G84
 Keith

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From: iac1@ra.msstate.edu (Ian Chen)
Subject: Re: Does Mike Like Dave?
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 03:57:52 GMT

mew3@ra.msstate.edu (Mary E. Whiteman) writes:

>doehr@magellan.den.mmc.com (Brett B. Doehr) writes:


>>Mary E. Whiteman *and* Irielle Adorenne?  No wonder your were confused
>>about the Daves.  You aren't even sure who _you_ are!  8-)}

yeah, i think she is so confused... she happens to be lots of times 
from what i hear... ;)

>  hey, I know who I am....blame it on my parents for naming me something
>officially which no one refers to me as.  Except people who wish to
>be very very official <insert your favorite sysadmin here>
>           beth/iri  
>     she of way too many names
>           and
>     the former too shy, but Mike admiring lurker in alt.fan.mike-jittlov

oh geez, i can see it now, she's going to go, what in the world are you
doin' posting on this newsgroup and making fun of me on usenet :) well,
think of it as a surprise ;) hey..wait, i know some other names she goes
by also...should i... nah.. i better be quiet before i get hit.

the ever-adoring very-lurking sillySO wizard
-Merlin :)

ooh..does this mean i should start reading this newsgroup ? :) call me
clueless, but all i know of is the little ghost thingies in Ghost which
were cool :-)..oh well, enough bandspace wasted :)

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   can not be enemies, at least                iac1@msstate.bitnet
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From: ks@acn.purdue.edu (Kirk Smith)
Subject: Request for info
Reply-To: ks@acn.purdue.edu
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:44:03 GMT

About 10 or 12 years ago, the Purdue Film Society regularily showed a film short
titled "The Wizard of Speed and Time".  It was stop action at its best.

I'm assuming that this group is about the same filmmaker.  Please fill me in
on the history of this film since then, and I would like information on how
to buy a copy of the short or more recent works.

					Kirk Smith
					ks@acn.purdue.edu


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From: dan@wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Dan Parmenter)
Subject: Re: WIZARD Pirated on TV Again
Organization: /home/fsg/dan/.organization
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:39:08 GMT

How did John Keel find out that you were behind the hoax UFOs?  Keel
was always my second favorite UFO writer after Brad Steiger - they
seemed to focus on the more bizarre conpiratorial side of things, a
side which has been completely overlooked in recent years in favor if
the fashionable "visitor" and "abduction" scenarios.  I attribute it
to the change in the political climate.  The  Men in Black and the
super secret captured UFO and its tiny inhabitant were among the
richest parts of UFO folklore (or reality, take your pick) yet they
were very much reflections of a cold war mentality.  The visitor
phenomenon is more reflective of New Age-ish sentiments with its
double-whammy focus on personal transformation as well as the whole
survivor culture (everyone seems to be in a support group for some
long-forgotten childhood trauma and evidence seems to suggest that in
many of these cases, the "memories" are induced by the hypnotist
"regressing" the person).  I miss the MIB though.  I went through my
adolescence being terrified by the thought that if I were lucky enough
to see a UFO, mysterious men would harass and threaten me.  I guess
John Keel had a book out not too long back that I have been meaning to
track down.  I wonder what happened to Steiger though, no doubt hushed
by the MIB.  

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
From: nelson@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Russ Nelson)
Subject: Re: WIZARD's Songs and Music
Organization: Clarkson University, Potsdam NY
	<1efvkoINNe9u@gap.caltech.edu> <sf3LHbW00awF871Xdy@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 03:54:10 GMT

In article <sf3LHbW00awF871Xdy@andrew.cmu.edu> "Daniel S. Efran" <de0t+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

   Excerpts from netnews.alt.fan.mike-jittlov: 19-Nov-92 WIZARD's Songs and
   Music Mike Jittlov@gumby.cs.ca (5012)

   > I'd STILL love to complete this movie.  It's a family trait and
   > motto, inextricably ingrained in the Jittlov genetic code - I
   > even calligraphed it on a large sign for my mother's classrooms:

   >    "If a job is once begun,   Never leave it `til it's done,
   >     Be the labor great or small,   Do it well, or not at all."

   > Could probably complete everything, with a good video set-up,
   > Toaster, synthesizer..  (dream on) 

   Let me be the first (since I'm sure I won't be the last) to say
   that we'd all LOVE to see the "Director's Cut" of WoSaT!

Me, too.  How about pre-selling DCoWoSaT tapes?  I'd buy a dozen if I
could get them for $20 apiece (or is that an unrealistic price?).
What you could do is accept people's checks with a promise not to cash
them until either you'd gotten enough to pay for it, or, say, six
months had gone by.

--
--russ <nelson@sun.soe.clarkson.edu> I'm proud to be a humble Quaker.
Peace is not the absence of war.  Peace is the presence of a system for
resolving conflicts before war becomes necessary.  War never creates peace.
From: lionel@quark.enet.dec.com (Steve Lionel)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Subject: WOSAT on laserdisc
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:29:10 GMT
Reply-To: lionel@quark.enet.dec.com (Steve Lionel)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH


A few comments on laserdisc viewing of WOSAT.  There is, as far as I know,
only one edition of the disc, distributed by Image Entertainment.  There are
no "liner notes" so to speak, just a blurb on the back cover.  For best
enjoyment, do view this on a player which has "special effects for CLV discs",
so you can single-step through the subliminals.  But as Mike noted, you will
only see every other frame this way, and worse, the "pan-and-scan" transfer
means that the sides of the image are chopped off and you miss some things.
Still, it's enjoyable.

If you're looking for a player, there are a number of good choices out there.
Pioneer is the market leader and has been "keeping the faith" in the format
for over a dozen years.  The model I would recommend is the CLD-D701, which
I believe is their cheapest one that has the CLV special effects.  (If you
don't get this feature, you can't step through the subliminals.)  You may
find last year's models available at lower prices, such as the CLD-3090.
You may also be able to buy a used version of an earlier model such as
the CLD-3070 or the CLD-3030 (I own the latter).  If you are buying a used
model, run it through its paces before committing; the mechanical parts tend
to fail first, and the older models are less reliable than the newer in this
regard.

Though a number of other companies make good players (Sony, Panasonic,
Philips), the CLV special effects feature is rare and confined to the
more expensive models.  Expect to pay at least $800 for a model with this
feature.  If you can do without it, a number of models are available from
under $500, with some "closeouts" going as low as $250.

But be warned - buying a laserdisc player after only having watched video
tapes is like buying a CD player after only listening to scratchy records;
you'll be spoiled for anything less.  I only buy movies on LD now (it's
cheaper than tapes) and find it painful to have to watch a tape!

--

Steve Lionel                    lionel@quark.enet.dec.com
SDT Languages Group
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, NH 03062
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From: otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Subject: Re: Does Mike Like Dave?
Organization: The Crimson Permanent Assurance Company
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:44:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.164010.1412@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> cmv@looney.att.com (Craig M. Votava) writes:
   Do you like the comedy of Dave Barry?

   I read his alt.fan newsgroup, and it happens to come "on" right before
   yours.  I figger you'd be the type of person that would appreciate his
   stuff. In many ways, you kinda sound like him. Are you one in the same?

Right before?  Your site must be missing lots of newsgroups...

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From: jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov,alt.politics.kibo
Subject: Lettering
Date: 21 Nov 1992 13:21:41 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: gumby.cs.caltech.edu
Summary: l e t t e r s
Keywords: Lettering, Drawn, Out, Kibo


Kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry) asks:
>Have you ever drawn any lettering?

Jittlov Data Record - What have I done with my life:
	Word Search:  Drawing

	I have drawn pictures
	I have drawn animation
	I have drawn attention
	I have drawn criticism
	I have drawn a salary
	I have drawn a crowd
	I have drawn a curtain
	I have drawn a blank
	I have drawn a bath
	I have drawn a bead
	I have drawn a bow
	I have drawn a gun
	I have drawn fire
	I have drawn flies
	I have drawn shades
	I have drawn straws
	I have drawn a sword
	I have drawn women
	I have drawn conclusions
	I have drawn the line
	I have drawn out a joke 
	I have drawn letters      <<<*!!!

Ah.  Why yes, I drew and designed the lettering for both posters
of the WIZARD feature, as well as the feature's opening titles
- not to mention titles for my many filmlets.

I collected many books of typefaces, in the 70's to create titles
and credits for my filmshorts.  But seldom found a typeface that
fit the mood, or was even consistent in its style.  Since the "J"
or the "M" usually lacked strength - both letters prominent in my
name and friends' - I started altering the letters, and eventually
just drew my own.  My style seems to match my heritage - Nordic
and Oriental, with a borrowed dash of Arabian Nights.

As a mere kidling, I considered the lettering taught in school to be
awkward and oddly unlike its printed version, so I made up my own
letters - which were unique, but eventually accepted by my teachers.
Except for their size.

My natural handwriting has gotten even smaller, since - it's about
25 lines to the inch.  No explanation.  Saves ink, saves trees.
And it's seen in the WIZARD feature in a zoom-in shot.

--mjj
From: kbeal@amber (Ken Beal)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Subject: Re: WoSaT posters!
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:02:26 GMT
Organization: Harris CSD, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
NNTP-Posting-Host: amber.ssd.csd.harris.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Mike Jittlov (jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu) wrote:
: The least expensive WIZARD laserdisk ("The Wizard of Speed and
: Time" ID 7209) sources I've seen are:
: 
: Sight & Sound, 27 James Road, Waltham, MA 02154, (617) 894-8633
: (Mon-Wed 10-7, Thu-Fri 10-9 EST).  Ask for DELIA HUSE (who knows
: practically everything about any laserdisk out there).  $19.95
: 
: The Whole Toon Access, PO Box 369, Issaquah, Washington 98027
: (206) 391-8747 (Mon-Fri 9-6, PST).   Also $19.95

	Hmm.  Which one would be preferable, as far as liner notes etc. go?
Or is there any difference between the two suppliers?

--
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