From: jd@latcs1.lat.oz.au (John Dimogotsis)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Ena sxolio gia tis ellinikes frgates.
Date: 27 Aug 92 02:05:52 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia
Originator: jd@latcs2.lat.oz.au


	Euxaristw olous gia tis apantiseis tous peri "Meco200" etc.

	Einai entiposiakes i agores pliwn pou kanei i Ellada, alla omws
amphivalw an einai kai toso swstes, kai o logos einai:

	Simfona me moderno dwgma to kirio oplo einai o puraulos (guided missile)
kai evavtion tetiou oplou i fregates einai evalwtes. To simperasma auto den
einai mono diko mou alla ekfrazetai apo polous eidikous sta biblia pou grafoun
girw apo stratiotika themata, epipleon i Australiani aeroporia (RAAF) prin
ligo kairo anakinwse oti einai pio ikani na difila3i ti xwra apo nautiki 
epithesi para to nautiko, pou as simiothi oti einai poli isxiro me '6' fregates
"Oliver Hazard Perry", '3' "Adams", kai alla paliotera pou tha antikatastathoun 
makriprothesma apo '8' "Meco200".
	Auto ofiletai stous "HARPOON" pou metaferoun ta '75' "FA-18A" kai '24'
"F-111C" kai '20' "P-3C Orion".
	Akoma prosfata paradigmata opws auto me ti fregata "Stark" (tipou Perry)
pou efage "Exoset" apo Irakino aeroplano tin epoxi tou polemou Iran-Iraq.
To "Shefild" (bretaniko tipou 42) pou efage "Exoset" sto polemo ton Fauklands.
I katastrofi 12-15 puraulakatwn you Iraq sto plolemo tou kolpou se 2 meres apo
"Sea skua" apo bretanika elikoptera 'Lynx' kai bombes apo amerikanika 'A-6E'.

	Ola auta dixnoun oti o kaluteros tropos na beltiosoume to nautiko 
einai na beltiwsoume tin aeroporia!

	Simfoneitai i diafoneitai?

I apli mou logiki vasizetai se 3 stixia.
	Prwto, oti i purauloi 'aeros-epifanias' twn aeroplanwn einai 
apotelesmatikoi se apostasi 30km (Penguin), 40-60 km (Exoset) kai 100+ km 
(Harpoon).  Enw oi purauloi 'epifanias-aeros' twn fregatwn einai mono 
apotelesmatikoi mexri 25 km (Sea-sparow apo p.x. Kontenear), 30-40 km (Tartar
apo Adams), 67-74 km (Standard apo Perry). 	Me alla logia to aeroplano
mporei na htipisi to plio xwris na mporei auto na andapodwsei, ara to aeroplano
exei ti stratigiki iperoxi.
	Deutero, me ta US$ 200 million peripou pou stixixei mia fragata, 
agorazonte 4 aeroplana kai 180 'Harpoon' peripou. An ipothesoume oti i
fregata exei 99% pithanotita na aminthi apenanti se epithesi me puraulo,
pou einai ipervoliko alla as ipothesoume twra, tote 2 purauloi tha prepi na
perasoun kai tote i pleura me ti fregata den tha exei tipota enw i pleura
me ta aeroplana tha ehei toulahiston ta aeroplana tis. An ta aeroplana einai
tixera kai xtipisoun o 45 kai 63 puraulos tote tha periseusoun kai 117 Harpoon
kai i niki se economicous orous tha einai me ti pleura pou eixe ta aeroplana.
(mi me pare3igisete xreiazonte ploia, alla mono otan exeis tin ishiroteri
aeroporia wste na ta xrisimopiis apotelesmatika kai xwris fovo).
	Trito, purauloi (ala Exoset) mporoun twra na extoxeuonte apo tin
xira apo fortiga gia paradigma, xwris fovo gia to fortigo, pou einai poli
ftino sigritika. Me alla logia ta nisia mas gia paradigma apoteloun me tetia
fortiga abithistes 'puraulakati' (opws i litourgia elikopterwn kai aeroplanwn
kathista ta nisia abithista aeroplanofora) !

	Xairetw.
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