HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: spani@mprgate.mpr.ca (Leonard Spani)
Subject: Re: Portable Ufo detector, is it out there?
Followup-To:  alt.alien.visitors
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 22:31:36 GMT

In article <wb9omc.719256535@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu>, wb9omc@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick) writes:
[...]
|> 	Anything that you put up that detects magnetic fields will eventually 
|> drive the user nuts!
|> 
|> 	Damn near EVERYTHING that we use in the way of radios or appliances or
|> automotive electrical systems, etc., generates magnetic fields.  Anything
|> that you make sensitive enough will also pick up these items.
|> 
|> 	I can see it now - "turn off that damn UFO detector, you sister is
|> using her hair dryer again!"
|> 
|> 	If the occupants of extraterrestrial vehicles can make their
|> vehicles go at warp-whatever, NOT appear on radar scopes and interfere
|> with our electrical systems (all of which have been reported), I think
|> you'd better start looking for something more useful than magnetic
|> effects detectors.
|> 
|> Duane


Why don't you design and build a gravity [wave] detector.

If you could find any response that wasn't backed up by seismic
readings then you got yourself a small meandering black hole
or a UFO.

Of course, I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about.



Leonard

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From: randolph@est.enet.dec.com (Tom Randolph)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Gods Trapped in Illusion-Pleiadians16
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:09:50 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <67422@cup.portal.com>, Don_-_Showen@cup.portal.com writes...
> 
>Here is The Pleiadian article from issue 16 of Connecting Link Magazine.
> 
>Copyright by Barbara Marciniak ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ahem. Does anyone else find this rather enlightening, if ya know what I mean?
-Tom R.   randolph@est.enet.dec.com
From: jim@apsicc.aps.edu (frost...)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: SEX with aliens
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:10:00 GMT
Organization: Albuquerque Public Schools - Career Enrichment Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <mcnair.16.718495148@slab.unt.edu>, mcnair@slab.unt.edu (SEAN MCNAIR) writes...
>     I recently had sex with an alien. The alien in question lives in my 
>room. He is yurple in color (yellow with purple polkadots) and he emanates 
>facts at me. For example, I know that he is from the planet xenon, and is 
>rather small for his age. (600 yrs) He is just an adolescnt, as this species 
>of animal (or I should say, alien intelligence) lives to be four thousand 
>years of age. He weighs about ninety pounds. (I carried him to the scale) He 
>does'nt come in any particular shape, he merely takes on the shape of his 
>environment. (He can change shape at will) He doesn't seem to have many 
>bones, just a jaw with sharp teeth. He likes to eat, on occasion. (about 
>every two weeks he polishes off an entire jar of of peanut butter. He seems 
>to prefer creamy jif as opposed to crunchy.) 
>     The strange thing about this alien, other than the fact that he usually 
>hangs out with me all the time, is that he is empathetic to all my desires, 
>and that he is a doppleganger. For example, last night, I saw a television 
>show that was all about me! It was a news show, and the newscasters kept 
>saying things when I wasn't listening clearly about things I'd been doing, 
>reporting secretly to the rest of the population about what I'd been up to! 
>Then, during a commercial, the women started screaming about Tater Tots (tm) 
>and a few Radioactive Tater Tots (tm) fell on the rug! It was then that I 
>got some sexual feelings for a woman that I saw in the hospital earlier 
>today. Then, the yurple (that's what I call him) changed into the woman I 
>was seeing earlier, and we had sex. The odd thing about is that the yurple, 
>I think, I'm not sure, bit off my penis and swallowed it! It grew back the 
>next day, but now I'm not sure what to do about the yurple.
> 
>                                 Gumby


                    Obviously too many qualudes...

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   We are rapidly ascending through prosperity to poverty...  Twain
                    Internet:    jim@apsicc.aps.edu
       Albuquerque Public Schools - Instructional System Manager 
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Xref: sparky alt.alien.visitors:7302 alt.conspiracy:11118
From: system@apsicc.aps.edu (SYSTEM MANAGER)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: INVASION!!!
Summary: I have just found out what has been going on!!!
Keywords: stollman, clones, aliens, invasion, Jesus
Date: 10 Oct 92 00:27:00 GMT
Organization: Albuquerque Public Schools - Career Enrichment Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct9.201953.1332@netcom.com>, garys@netcom.com (Gary Stollman) writes...
> 
>	Gary Stollman
> 
>-- 
>Gary Stollman    Internet: garys@netcom.com     GEnie: G.STOLLMAN
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>          The world is your playground.  Keep it clean! 
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
> 
uh, ohhhhh.....

			he's  baaaaaacccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!!
======================================================================
   We are rapidly ascending through prosperity to poverty...  Twain
                    Internet:    jim@apsicc.aps.edu
       Albuquerque Public Schools - Instructional System Manager 
======================================================================
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: wb9omc@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick)
Subject: Re: Kevin Randle Comes to Denver
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:13:47 GMT

pjweaver@ralvm29.vnet.ibm.com (Paul Weaver) writes:

>Do you have an ISBN number for the "...ROSWELL" book?
>-- 
0-380-76196-3

Duane
From: gvb@TEFS1.acd.com (Gregg Brown)
Subject: alt.alien.visitors.sewage.garbage.bullshit.crackpots.fantasy
Organization: Applied Computing Devices, Inc., Terre Haute IN
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:50:33 GMT

About 6 months ago I started getting interested in abductions. I
guess the movie "INTRUDERS" prompted my dormant interest. Since that
time I have been reading. Sofar, I have devoured (mentally) INTRUDERS
by Budd Hopkins, The Omega Project by Kenneth Ring and Secret Life by
David Michael Jacobs.  The more I read (pro or con) the more I
realize that the people doing most of the posting here in
alt.alien.visitors are just having fun. I am not saying that is bad
or harmful its just that they are not interested in the gathering or
sharing of relevant information on this subject as certain other
people that are wandering around in here. There are those posts that
are interlaced with all your fun that are real inquiries or bits of
information from reasonably intelligent individuals wishing to hash
this out in a rational way. These people know who they are and I suspect
that they, as much as myself, get tired of "wading" through all this
other "stuff" to get the meat. 

I am not interested in newage sewage, beings of light bullshit or
hot-tub heavy breathing. I am interested in real investigation and
informed opinions on the subject (that used to be at hand and is
implied in the newsgroup title) having to do with UFO sightings and
alien visitations, whether the latter means abductions, mutilations
or government conspiracies.

Its is boldly appearant to me that alt.alien.visitors needs to split.
Lets leave these bozos to their wild tales of entertainment and go
somewhere where we can have more "MEAT" to feed on. I haven't the
faintest idea how to create a group and I don't know what we should
name it. I am sure some interested party would be willing to help.
Anyway, I will write a FAQ for it (with the help of others, I am
sure) and we can have some real alien/ufo controversy talking without
some of the intrusions of this other (I will be polite) "stuff". All
in favor...

gvb@acd4.acd.com



-- 
Let the Greys come. If they are friendly, I will shake their hands and wax
their saucers. If they are not, I will do what I can to blow them off the
planet.
This .sig was prepared by a professional editor. DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME.
Xref: sparky alt.alien.visitors:7340 alt.conspiracy:11173
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 23:28:05 EDT
From: Joe Carlson <JKC3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: INVASION!!!

You say you're now back in the real world.....I really don't think you're even
close to the real world!!
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: auras
From: jtulli@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:23:53 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <1992Oct12.134527.26088@tellab5.tellabs.com>, jcj@tellabs.com (jcj)
writes:
> In article <1avhkvINN3km@male.EBay.Sun.COM> kathieg@tinkerbell.EBay.Sun.COM 
>writes:
>>...
>>Your nuts buddy!  I can see them.  You can't tell me I can't.
>>...
> 
> Better check your fly, buddy.
> -- 
> 		        jcj@tellabs.com
> 	  "It's a thought!  It's just a THOUGHT!" 
> 			~ C. Manson

i would like to say that, first and foremost, if someone is courageous enough
to state publicly that they can see auras, they probably can (or at the very
"least", believe they can, and in most cases, the belief facilitates the
ability anyway, meaning that if one believes one can do something, one can
really do that something...).  so i would like to lend my support to those who
know they are not "imagining things" when they sense things in "uncommon" ways. 
as someone who can sense emotions and auras, i like to think i understand.

concerning the person who wrote the above strange comment, all i can say is
that:

a) it's "you're", not "your"
b) the person he/she was responding to is a woman, therefore the generic
"buddy" doesn't apply.
c) look who this person's hero is.

my $.02,

Jude :)
From: kauffman@slab.unt.edu (DON KAUFFMAN)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: alt.alien.visitors.sewage.garbage.bullshit.crackpots.fantasy
Date: 14 Oct 92 02:17:29 GMT
Organization: School of Library & Info Sci, UNT

gvb@TEFS1.acd.com (Gregg Brown) writes:
>Subject: alt.alien.visitors.sewage.garbage.bullshit.crackpots.fantasy

	Have you tried decaf?

>Its is boldly appearant to me that alt.alien.visitors needs to split

	It is boldly apparent to me that you need to pick up a
	dictionary.

>Lets leave these bozos to their wild tales of entertainment and go

	How can you possibly tell the difference between
	real talk of alien visitors and wild tales of entertainment?

	I think you'll find that the alt.alien.visitor reader
	is looking for both, and that if you start a new group,
	the same "bozos" will migrate there as well.

>somewhere where we can have more "MEAT" to feed on. I haven't the

	Am I reading this correctly?  You want to start a group
	where you can talk about eating alien visitors?

>faintest idea how to create a group and I don't know what we should
>name it. I am sure some interested party would be willing to help.
>Anyway, I will write a FAQ for it (with the help of others, I am
>sure) and we can have some real alien/ufo controversy talking without
>some of the intrusions of this other (I will be polite) "stuff". All
>in favor...
>

	NAY!!!
	Is there any way that we can block this nonsense?
	A peaceful resistance?

>Let the Greys come. If they are friendly, I will shake their hands and wax
>their saucers. If they are not, I will do what I can to blow them off the
>planet.

	You'll only eat them if they're not friendly?
	Do you eat cows?  Has any cow ever been particularly
	unfriendly to you?  Why do you want to eat these aliens?
	Have you heard something about their meat being especially
	tasty?  If so, what kind of meat here on earth is comparable?

	Oh, I see.  You don't want to eat them, just to blow them.

>This .sig was prepared by a professional editor. DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME.

	Huh?  Is this supposed to be funny?

	Do you know Gary?
From: titan@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Titanium Knight)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Sky Magic on CBC television (Canada)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 13:16:25 CST
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

So, who watched the special edition of Man Alive, abot UFOs: called Sky 
Magic?  I was somewhat dissapointed in it, probably because I've heard it 
all before.  However, one part was extremely interesting listening to 
the tape recording of that guys abduction (through hypnosis).  Wow!  It 
was strange.  
 
Titan
Xref: sparky alt.alien.visitors:7366 sci.skeptic:17836
From: stanley@verga.enet.dec.com (Hail Eris)
Subject: Re: Face on Mars An Other Time
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:59:34 GMT


In article <16082@mindlink.bc.ca>, Colleen_Anderson@mindlink.bc.ca (Colleen Anderson) writes...
>Yep, I want in on this too.  :)  I'll bet that Mars turns out to be exactly
>what we think it is--a big hunka dusty rock.  A face on Mars is like the man
>in the moon.  All imagination but no tinkerings of a long dead race.  I'll
>bet 100 kugerands (however you spell it) :-)
>Colleen

You're on!

mary
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: milsom@ntb.ch (Paul Milsom)
Subject: SETI
Keywords: SETI
Reply-To: milsom@ntb.ch (Paul Milsom)
Organization: Neu-Technikum Buchs 
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:53:10 GMT





							SETI


This might be a clever way for the US government to spill the beans.

My suggestion:

1a) After 2 months/days/weeks of SETI:

Hey we've discovered a far-off signal which is definitely intelligent, about 
200 million (or whatever) light years away. (No danger at all). - So there 
*is* ET intelligence out there. We are *not* alone. Wow! Fancy that! etc.
1b) Pause and monitor public reaction.


2a) After 2 years/months, depending on 1b:

Hey! Now we have discovered a further 23 (or 7695) sources of intelligent 
signals. We are certainly not alone. Wow! Fancy that!
2b) Wait for and assess public reaction.


3a) (Time depending on b):

Hey! Some of these signals seem to be trying to contact *us*...
3b) ..

4) Hey, they've replied to our message, and they sound real friendly ..

5) Hey, they want to visit, and they sound real friendly ..

6) Hey, they're here, and they're friendly .. (TV..)

7) Hey, they're giving us lots of incredible technology .. (TV) ..

8) The ETs are working well with us - look at what we can do now .. (TV) ..

(9) (For the prophets of doom) .. Well, we've had a little problem ..

(10) (For the prophets of doom) .. They're out of our control ..

					- Would it work? 

															Paul

Paul Milsom
milsom@ntb.ch
Neu-Technikum Buchs Switzerland
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: anthony@sequent.com (Anthony Roberts)
Subject: Information Required.....
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 09:00:07 GMT

Hi there.....

Being new to the subject i'm requesting for ANY information
regarding the UFO phenomena...

This intrest is purely for my own use....

I'd also like to request any video footage, or even,
to have a chance to talk to some people with expertese
over the phone ... If you would like to talk then call my
number in the UK and i will call YOU back....

The number is 44 0753 521650.

Or if you would like to send me some mail with your
number on, then i would be pleased to call you.....

Many thanks in advance.....Anthony Roberts
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: john@rtfm.mlb.fl.us (John Blasik)
Subject: Re: Pioneer Probe & The Venusians
Organization: We don't need no stinkin' batches!
Distribution: alt.alien.visitors
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 22:13:39 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.231349.14076@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> corleyj@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Jason D Corley ) writes:

>	Or maybe we just screwed up again.  Shouldn't have bought
>the Japanese model Pioneer Venus Probe.

Hardly. The Japanese model camewith a smaller gas tank :-)

-- john
From: mcgrew@klinzhai.rutgers.edu (Charles Mcgrew)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: crop circles
Date: 12 Oct 92 01:45:20 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


	cass8806@elan.glassboro.edu (KYLE CASSIDY) writes:
	are there any books out about those crop circles which were
	popping up in europe?

... there are some books, and some magazines that I know of:

Magazines:
	The Cerealogist, 20 Paul St., Frome, Somerset, BA11 1DX,
		England
	The Circular, 58 Kings Rd., West End, Woking, Surrey GU24 9LW,
		England 
	The Crop Walker, 3 Selborne Court, Tavistock Close, Romsey,
		Hampshire, SO51 7TY, England

Some books and papers:
	The Crop Circle Enigma, edited by Ralph Noyes, Gateway Books,
		UK.
	Crop Circles, the Latest Evidence, Pat Delgado and Colin
		Andrews, Bloomsbury Publishing, UK
	North American Crop Circles and Related Physical Traces in
		1990 - available from NAICCR (see below).
	"Crop Circles: The Mystical View" and "How to Measure a Crop
		Circle", MUFON Journal #278, June 1991.
	Summer 1991 Crop Circles - available from Fund for UFO
		Research (see below).
	"Summer 1991 Crop Circles" -- condensation of the above
		report, MUFON Journal #282, October 1991.
	"Once Upon a time in the Wheat", and "English Hoax Update",
		MUFON Journal #284, December 1991.
	"The Circles of Summer", MUFON Journal #293, September 1992.
	

North American CC organizations:
	North American Institute of Crop Circle Research, 649
		Silverstone Avenue, Winnipeg, Manitoba R3T 2V8,
		Canada.
	North American Circle, PO Box 61144, Durham, NC 27715-1144

Other addresses:
	Fund for UFO Research, PO Box 277, Mount Rainier, Maryland,
		20712.
	MUFON, 103 Oldtowne Road, Seguin, TX 78155

Hope this helps,

Charles
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: cschmidt@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Christopher Schmidt)
Subject: Re: alt.alien.visitors.sewage.garbage.bullshit.crackpots.fantasy
Reply-To: cschmidt@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Christopher Schmidt)
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:13:40 GMT

I will say just one more thing, then I will keep quiet on this
subject.  This is the most important thing: There is no need to be
mean to each other.  There is far too much invective on Usenet, and
too little courtesy in the world in general.  If you encourage others,
you will reach your own goal faster.  Being mean will hold you back.
I have tried it both ways.

Christopher Schmidt
Waltham, Massachusetts, USA
cschmidt@lynx.northeastern.edu
Xref: sparky alt.alien.visitors:7263 sci.skeptic:17668
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: Face on Mars An Other Time
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:56:38 GMT
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <schumach.718335201@convex.convex.com>, schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher) writes:
>In <1992Oct5.192715.13238@rtfm.mlb.fl.us> joshua@rtfm.mlb.fl.us (Joshua Geller) writes:
>
>>you raise an interesting technical point; it is my understanding that the
>>camera on the viking also couldn't be aimed as such, and yet we got these
>>provocative photos.
>
>So Viking got lucky. The Observer high res camera will see very narrow
>swaths in the direction that it happens to be pointing;
>it can't be aimed without turning the entire 
>spacecraft. Thus it will photograph at most a few percent of the surface
>over the life of the mission. It will be pure luck if the "face" happens
>to pass before the camera.

Unless NASA should happen to decide that the formation is interesting enough
(or that it's worth devoting a little mission time to proving crackpots like
Hoagland wrong) that they'll aim the high resolution camera at it.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff)
Subject: Re: alt.alien.visitors.sewage.garbage.bullshit.crackpots.fantas
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 08:41:05 GMT

In article <67754@cup.portal.com> Don_-_Showen@cup.portal.com writes:
>Boy now you have gone and done it,  Gregg.  Here I had vowed to be nice on
>the net.  And you come on and make some stupid,  half witted statements
>like
>
>>alt.alien.visitors.sewage.garbage.bullshit.crackpots.
>>I am not interested in newage sewage, beings of light bullshit or
>>hot-tub heavy breathing. I am interested in real investigation and
>>informed opinions on the subject (that used to be at hand and is
>>implied in the newsgroup title) having to do with UFO sightings and
>>alien visitations, whether the latter means abductions, mutilations
>>or government conspiracies.
>
>consciousnesses brain although it is atrophied in most college graduates.
>

I was bad John W. I swore. Sorry.

What I think Gregg is interested in is the "facts". I can understand that.
Thats what I'm interested in too.

Maybe if he had gone to the Berkeley conference he could have seen how
people who are abducted come back spewing "newage sewage". He obviously
doesn't realize that we are all inseparably tied to the Creation in the end.
That's why we're here. 

So anyone that can't force down a little bit of Newage sewage with his
facts, isn't really interested in  UFO's; they're just interested in petting
their egos or feeling knowledgable and superior.

These are the sort of quabbles that tend to divide the UFO community instead
of unite it. I would like to see that not happen.

There is no reason to have another news group.
there are a lot of ways to improve this one.

The reason I mentioned John is because I don't think you realize just how
much experience he has in this area. He can tell you all you'd care to
know about Adamski, or a host of other contactees, and UFO cases. 
And people like JW are a good resource for this group. He is trying to 
show us all the possibilities, not prove they are facts. We should start
using all our resources and drawing upon our collective conciousness instead
of squabbling over philosophies. We all have a lot of room for growth here,
and I'd rather not see anyone acting as if they know it all, cause we all know
it ain't so, right Gregg?

Jeff-

Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic,alt.folklore.urban
From: bosullvn@unix1.tcd.ie (Bryan O'Sullivan)
Subject: Re: Face on Mars An Other Time
Keywords: mars observer, citys or rocks, confirmation one way or the other, side bets
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:43:10 GMT

rodb@slugo.corp.sgi.com (Rod Beckwith) writes:

>I wonder how many bets were taken that Chris (CRAZYMAN) Colombus
>would sail off the end of the Earth?

It's a commonly-held misconception that people of Columbus' time
thought the earth to be flat; at least so says David Lindbergh in
his "The Beginnings of Western Science" (U. Chicago Press) and I
am inclined to believe him.  Unless someone has some credible
evidence that people started to believe the earth was flat after
tens of centuries of believing otherwise, I'll accept Lindbergh's
word.

Crossposted to alt.folklore.urban due to the apparent relatively
recent invention of this piece of flat-earth lore.

	-- Bryan

--
Bryan O'Sullivan                                        bosullvn@unix1.tcd.ie
Department of Computer Science                     "Pieces of nine, pieces of
University of Dublin                                nine!" -- a parroty error
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