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From: rxv9839@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Bob Vogel)
Subject: Re: Universal Broadcast Level Theory
Reply-To: rxv9839@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 17:26:01 GMT

In article <RFM.93Jan8170028@urth.eng.sun.com>, rfm@urth.eng.sun.com (Richard McAllister) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.070605.5991@ultb.isc.rit.edu> rxv9839@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Bob Vogel) writes:
>
>   There is a commercial device (AudioRider2000) which is availablefor cable
>   systems that samples the sound from each channel and attempts by AGC action
>   computer controlled with a complex alogrithim using fast Fourier transforms to
>   keep each channel level "the same".  How fast it reacts and how it handles
>   transitions from no noise to gunshot (and there are a lot of those on TV these
>   days) is critical
>
>I've noticed on our cable system that lots of commercials start out
>REAL LOUD but after a second or so (probably shorter.. usually
>sounds like "NEW GINZU WORLD class knives".. then 'normal' volume
>for the rest of the commercial.   Could it be my cable system has
>one of these (or a similar thing?)

Yes that is quite likely.  It sounds like a limiter which has a slow enough
reaction time that you can hear it working.  One of the problems of this whole
area.  It is also possible, but less likely, that a particular programmer <say
discovery channel for example> has the limiter in their transmission.  If they
do, of course, all systems nationally would hear the same thing.

>Oddly, it also sounds like the stereo separation is changing.  The
>first "burst" seems to really fill up the room, coming at me from
>all sides.  Is there any kind of "spoofing" that can be done on 
>the MTS to fake a "surround sound" effect?  Could the limiter be
>cranking this down too?

Yes yes and yes.  There are several devices that take mono and "fake" stereo.
They were somewhat common before HBO etc. began transmitting in stereo.
The limiter could cause the same effect as could mis-adjustement of the stereo
transmitter in the headend.  Most cable systems don't have test equipment to
accurately measure the channel separation.

>This "surround sound" burst is *very* attention-getting.  I wonder
>if the commercial producer is putting it on somehow.

They sure could.

>Rich

Bob Vogel
Newsgroups: alt.cable-tv.re-regulate
Subject: Universal Broadcast Level Theory
From: cvafy006@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:01:06 PST
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvafy006

I'll tell you what...let's start with a universal output level for all
television broadcasts.  I hate it when I am watching something on TV and then
all of a sudden, when a commercial comes on, I get hit with a blast of sound. 
Once I adjust the volume for the TV, all the programs/commercials should be
about the same volume.  But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, the commercial people use
a signal almost 1 and a half times stronger.  It may get my attention, but I
don't watch the commercial.  If cable desginated a universal output signal for
TV broadcast, I would be much happier.

Newsgroups: alt.cable-tv.re-regulate
From: root@sanger.chem.nd.edu (Doctor Math)
Subject: Re: Universal Broadcast Level Theory
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:33:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.170106.1@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu> cvafy006@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu writes:
>I'll tell you what...let's start with a universal output level for all
>television broadcasts.  I hate it when I am watching something on TV and then
>all of a sudden, when a commercial comes on, I get hit with a blast of sound. 
>Once I adjust the volume for the TV, all the programs/commercials should be
>about the same volume.  But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, the commercial people use
>a signal almost 1 and a half times stronger.  It may get my attention, but I
>don't watch the commercial.  If cable desginated a universal output signal for
>TV broadcast, I would be much happier.

This just happens to be a violation of FCC regs.
It also happens to have great lack of enforcement.

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From: westk@ava.bcc.orst.edu (Ken West)
Newsgroups: alt.cad
Subject: dxf file converters??
Date: 11 Jan 1993 23:33:02 GMT
Organization: Biological Computing Consortium, OSU
Distribution: usa
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I am looking for utilities to convert dxf files to a format I could use in
presentation graphics programs (cgm wmf etc).  Preferably something available
by ftp but if someone has a favorite commercial package I'd be interested.
Thanks, Please email.


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Newsgroups: alt.cad
From: sd7047787@v9000 (SD7047787)
Subject: Need help on CADKEY...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:00:00 GMT

Hi all, I am currently working on improving a software call CADKEY. I am not 
very familar with CAD programs at all. I am wondering anyone out there who are 
familiar and experience with CAD program especially CADKEY could help me by 
giving me somefeed back and improvements that they had implemented on their CAD 
programs. My task is to make this CADKEY software which is running on our LAN 
Sun stations more user friendly and of course optimise the working time. I am 
not a CAD user at all. I am given this task coz I am attached to this MNC 
company as part of my course training. I would really appreciate any help on 
anyone's experience and improvements over any CAD program. And one more thing, 
is there any where I can get some marcos or Libraries that were already created 
and uploaded for ftp? Any advice and suggestions are most welcomed! Thanx a 
lot! 8-)

PS. If not too much of a trouble, please reply me directly. Thanx!

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Newsgroups: alt.cad,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Where can I find a comparative evaluation of CAD packages?
From: smp@cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu (Shailesh M. Potnis)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:55:23 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Concurrent Engineering Research Center

	I would like to get info or pointers to comparative evaluation of
a few of the CAD packages: CorelDraw, Autocad and Micrografix (sp) designer.

	All comments and suggestions are appreciated.

	Thanks in advance.

	Shailesh


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Member of Technical Staff	|Center, West Virginia University
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: jjhi@vipunen.hut.fi (Jari Hiltunen)
Subject: Re: AutoCad block definitions
Keywords: blocks
Reply-To: jjhi@vipunen.hut.fi (Jari Hiltunen)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:59:46 GMT

In article <C0FwDr.JLI@bailgate.gpsemi.com> martin_s@sn4608.oldham.gpsemi.com (Martin Shelley) writes:
>I am using AutoCad version 11 and am programming using the ADS system.
>
>What I would like to know is how I can read the data from a block definition.
>I can find the block header using ads_ssget(...) but this does not give any
>pointers to the block data. Its probably something obvious - but I can't see 
>it. (the only way I have thought of getting the data I need is to insert t
>he block exploded, pick up the data and then undo the insert - tacky, 
>horrible etc).

Depends on what you want to get from the block.  Since you mentioned
exploding the block you probably don't want attributes but I'll
discuss that too.

Case 1: BLOCK GEOMETRY 

The entities which make the block are stored in the Block Table.
First get the block name by using (ssname) to get the desired entity
name and then (entget) to get the entity list.  Form that list extract
the block name.  You can search the block table with (tblsearch
"BLOCK" "blockname").  (I don't do ADS which means converting the
AutoLisp to ADS is your exercise.)  You get an entity name from
(tblsearch).  You can then use the entity name and (entnext) to step
through the entities in the block definition until you get "ENDBLK"
entity.

Case 2: ATTRIBUTES

If you want to get attribute values (ATTRIB entities) first get the
INSERT's entity name with (ssname) and then (entget) to get the entity
list.  If group 66 is non-zero in the entity list ATTRIB entities
follow the INSERT entity.  You can use (entnext) to step through
these ATTRIBs until you come to "SEQEND".

Not so difficult?

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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: herrin@turtle.mcc.com.mcc (Jim Herrin)
Subject: Re: AutoCad and coprocessors questions
Reply-To: herrin@turtle.mcc.com.mcc
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 10:44:08 GMT

In article 9391@kub.nl, hoppie@kub.nl (Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers) writes:
> While shopping around for 387 coprocessors I noticed a sales guy saying that he had
> seen a lot of machines running AutoCAD without a coprocessor. Now I fear that I lack
> some knowledge, as I always thought that AutoCAD *needed* a coprocessor.
> 
> Are there any (recent) versions of AutoCAD that run without coprocessor at all?
> Are there switches or replacement drivers for systems with and without coprocessors?
> Can you get different versions of the same release, with and without coprocessor?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Jeroen
> 
> -- 
> Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers, research engineer at     |  Stop connecting computers;
> Infolab, Tilburg University, The Netherlands    |  start connecting people!
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My guess is he was speaking of the 486 computers which have the coprocessor built into the processor chip.

Jim Herrin
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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad,comp.graphics,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: lauusitalo@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: S3 drivers for AutoCad 12 needed
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:00:06 GMT

        
   Could someone tell me where to get S3 drivers for AutoCad 12?
   Older drivers won't work with v 12.

   Please mail me, thanks.

    Lauri

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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: gus@deathstar.dell.com (Gus Campman)
Subject: Re: Destroy layers
Organization: Dell Computer Co
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:51:39 GMT


the PURGE command must be done FIRST when you load the drawing -- AutoCAD
will not let you use th command if you have done any work in th drawing (at
least, it wont in rel. 10. dont know bout 11 or 12 but have ahunch it is
the same there.)
Good Luck!
Gus




Disclaimer: these are my opinions and reflect on ME alone!

Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: monkey@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Xinbing Liu)
Subject: Layman AutoCAD questions
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 02:43:09 GMT

I'm considering a draft and drawing program for PC, and I have a few
questions about autocad.  I have some experience with ClarisCAD, which is a
Macintosh application --- the best drawing program I've seen, by far.

1.  For folks familiar with both AutoCAD and ClarisCAD, how similar are they?
Is AutoCAD easy to use?

2.  Can AutoCAD use other fonts, e.g., fonts supplied with Windows?

3.  Can drawings made with AutoCAD be exported to other format, e.g.,
(encapsulated) postscript, so they can be included in other documents? (this
is an importatn point)

(4.  What other CAD-like drawing packages exist?)

Please send e-mail to monkey@engin.umich.edu or reply to this message.
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:36:57 EST
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From:         Ken Farrar Computer Systems Manager <FARRARK@VTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Destroy layers

From: Ken Farrar   Computer Systems Manager
                  Facilities Planning and Construction; VA Tech
                  Phone: (703) 231-6449  Fax: (703) 231-9345

Have you tried the LISP command DELLAYER - it erases all entities on a
selected layer and then removes the layer?

Have a nice day!
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: kelson@ais.org (David Lewis)
Subject: TurboC/Acad12/Memory Layout
Organization: UMCC
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:55:18 GMT



  I compiled a program using TurboC (real mode obviously) and it works
fine, but it crashes if you try to shell out of autocad.  According
to the DOC file I read you have to make the memory layout of the program
the same as if it were a TSR in order to shell out/ or run another
real mode program.  I am not sure how to do this, can anyone offer any
help??

  --Thanks
      --David

Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: jjhi@vipunen.hut.fi (Jari Hiltunen)
Subject: Re: Higher Accuracy
Reply-To: jjhi@vipunen.hut.fi (Jari Hiltunen)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:37:18 GMT

In article <1ig6rmINNgnk@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> psmedsha@ecst.csuchico.edu (Paul Smedshammer) writes:
>I'm having a little trouble using the LIST feature of AutoCAD 11.  I
>have a 3D drawing and I  need to extract the X, Y, and Z coordinate
>values.  I have no problem doing this using LIST and then choosing the
>desired line.  What I do need though is more decimal places from this
>listing.  Currently I get 4 decimal places and I would like
>approximately 8.  Is this possible by changing a default setting? 
>Thanks.

Yes it's possible!  Explore the UNITS command.  It allows you to
-- among other things -- change the number of decimal places displayed.

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From: psmedsha@ecst.csuchico.edu (Paul Smedshammer)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: Higher Accuracy
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:06:31 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

Thanks to all that responded to my question about changing the
number of decimal places displayed.  The command UNITS worked
perfectly.  Once again, thanks to all for their quick response.


Paul

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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Date:         Sat, 9 Jan 1993 12:08:14 +0100
From:         Turi Maria Spinozzi <MC3470@MCLINK.IT>
Subject:      Send Lisp .. Pleeeease !

Hi guys !!!
PLease , let this area expand as a LIsp area ...
Spread all over the World Your favourite Lisp routines !!

                                                  Turi Maria Spinozzi
                                                   MC3470@MCLINK.IT
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: blank@nw.iowa.com
Subject: CAD Usage by Universities
Reply-To: blank@nw.iiowa.com
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:26:32 GMT

We are exploring CAD usgae for our office (University Architect -  
including new construction and renovations), plant department, and as a  
facilities management tool available to the various academic departments.   
We are planning to phase into this capability with a three pronged  
approach starting with an aerial survey converted to an AutoCad database  
(we can then add information such as underground utilities, etc. over  
time) for the whole campus; the establishment of procedures (and  
standards) for "as-builts" to be submitted in CAD format for significant  
projects by outside architects; and the incorporation CAD systems into  
production of construction documents for in-house renovation work.

I've talked with some people at other Universities about their systems and  
the best ways to make the jump and to establish these systems.  I'd be  
most interested in hearing from others in similar situations to understand  
your CAD arrangements and how these often conflicting needs are best  
reconciled.

Please contact me by phone or e-mail any comments, suggestions, or  
resources.  Thanks.

Michael Robke
Project Manager
The University of Chicago
312-702-1701
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: paisley@iastate.edu (Dr. Martin Paisley)
Subject: Help
Followup-To: paisley@iastate.edu
Keywords: No*Flames*Please
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:27:46 GMT

This is probably in the FAQ, but I am a newbie of sorts to the newsgroups,
so I don't know how to read it without waiting for it to come around again,
so I was wondering if anyone could answer this question really quick for
me.  Is there an FTP site to download autocad files from?  If so, could
someone please E-Mail me with the site number?

				Thanks!

					Dr. P.




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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: blu@cellar.org (Dan Reed)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: After Much Pulling Of Hair (note to Artist Card 100+ users)
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:13:16 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

Well, after talking with Artist systems, for over a week now, Ive found my 
problem with my latest graphics card.   Seems the S3 video chip that is used 
in the WinSprint 100+ card somehow gets messed up if there is a device on 
COM4 (My Modem!).  After switching to COM3, the problem of REGEN and ZOOM E's 
locking up my system were solved!  Artist does NOT tell you about this 
ANYHWERE in their manuals, just letting you all know...

PS- now that its working fine, its really nice!

     Dan Reed - blu@cellar.org - AutoCAD Geek -Industrial Music Lover
      68'Cougar, 89'VW Golf, 74'Honda Cb360, 89'Rollerblade Zetras'
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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: greent@ncs.dnd.ca (Tim Green)
Subject: Re: Generic Cad system requirements
Organization: DND, Ottawa, CANADA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 12:51:31 GMT

In article <930104233508_71543.3503_DHG42-1@CompuServe.COM> 71543.3503@COMPUSERVE.COM (John A. Kloepper) writes:
>A friend of mine is considering purchasing a 286-12 with 1 mb of ram and a
>monocrome monitor. She asked me how Generic Cad might run on such a
>system. Being that I am not that familiar with the program, I am looking
>for any ideas or thoughts.

I've used Generic CADD in its various versions on machines from a 4.77
MHz XT on up.  Running Generic CADD (or any other math-intensive program
for that matter) is a question of balancing three things:
  - hardware:  speed, memory etc
  - complexity of drawing:  tens vs thousands of objects per drawing,
lines vs curves
  - patience:  how long can you wait before getting frustrated?

Generic CADD WILL work on a 286-12 with 1mb RAM, but I wouldn't
recommend even trying without a 80287 math coprocessor:  even for simple
drawings, redraw time will be lonnnnnngggggg.  With 1mb RAM, drawing
size will be limited, unless you're reallly patient and can wait for
disk swapping.  As a general rule of thumb, for any type of CAD, the
bigger the machine (faster, more Mb), the better (less chance of being
frustrated by waiting).

Summary:  Yes, 286-12 OK with math coprocessor for simple drawings, but
it won't take too long to outgrow it and need something more.
From: wolf@Autodesk.COM (Wolf Herda)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: unable to initialize default plotter
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:53:48 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA

kelson@ais.org (David Lewis) writes:
<> 
<> 
<>   I have a friend from another company that has Autocad 12 C_1.   He has
<> a few different plotters in his plotter list, but sometimes when
<> he switches to one of them and tries to plot he gets an "unable to
<> initialize default plotter".  Has anyone seen this problem?  Anyone
<> have any suggestions?   Its seems to happen the most with the Epson
<> 24 pin, and the Calcomp monochrome (option 3)  he has the latest 
<> drivers from Compuserve.
<> 
<>   Thanks
<>     --Dave

I'm assuming that you're talking about DOS-386.

If I were to guess the problem, and it would be a guess cause we'd
need more information to really find the problem, I'd say he's got
adi drivers on his path which are returning the wrong level. Depending
on how he invokes AutoCAD, it sometimes picks up the wrong one. I'd suggest
he deletes all adi plotter drivers from his hard disk and re-installs
the latest ones on Compuserve.


Hope this helps.




Wolf Herda
wolf@autodesk.com
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: lowpnsky@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Todd Bradford Lowpensky)
Subject: Question on layers
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:35:54 GMT

	Does anyone know of a way to make a layer visible, but not be able
to snap to it?  I need to be able to see this layer, but I am drawing on
a different layer.  The layer that I am not drawing on has too many line
segments, so whenever I use a snap, I accidentally snap to a line on the
layer underneath.  Thanks for your help. 
							-Todd


Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: hoppie@kub.nl (Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers)
Subject: AutoCad and coprocessors questions
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 08:02:11 GMT
Organization: Tilburg University, Tilburg, The Netherlands
Followup-To: alt.cad.autocad

While shopping around for 387 coprocessors I noticed a sales guy saying that he had
seen a lot of machines running AutoCAD without a coprocessor. Now I fear that I lack
some knowledge, as I always thought that AutoCAD *needed* a coprocessor.

Are there any (recent) versions of AutoCAD that run without coprocessor at all?
Are there switches or replacement drivers for systems with and without coprocessors?
Can you get different versions of the same release, with and without coprocessor?

Thanks,


Jeroen

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