HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: randall@proteus.qc.ca (Randall Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: what the...
Date: 13 Dec 92 19:47:45 GMT
Reply-To: randall@proteus.qc.ca (Randall Reid)
Organization: The Proteus Group, Montreal Canada

abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (August Abolins) writes:

> I have now installed 1.65.  But this is *still* happening when I "login"...
> 
> Unknown command: DATE:.
> Unknown command: REFERENCES:.
> Unknown command: DISTRIBUTION:.
> Unknown command: ORGANIZATION:.
> Unknown command: LINES:.

I tried responding via email but your email address bounces!

Check if your user has a file called WAFFLE in his home directory
(/waffle/user).  Chances are this is the problem.  Waffle tries to
execute the file called WAFFLE when the user logs on.  Change the
name to WAFFLE.TXT or something.


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From: Ralph Sims <ralphs@remote.halcyon.com>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Caller Summary Program
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 08:09:58 PST
Organization: Halcyon's Remote

Jonathan Herr <herrj%n@moose.cs.indiana.edu> writes:

> # I'd recommend that you just put it on halcyon for ftp and it'll be
> # available for uuencoded mail-serving within a day or two...that way

> Agreed, but since a lot of people have trouble getting mail from
> there, I have reservations about the availability.

I am not aware of any problems with our mail handling on halcyon.
There have been problems with inadequately-worded requests.  Halcyon
is currently processing 2,000 pieces of mail daily.
From: rick@ricksys.lonestar.org (Richard McCombs)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: UUCICO SPEED
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 20:53:12 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Red Headed League; Lawton, Ok

fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:
>
> In article <a51LVB9w165w@dogbox.acme.gen.nz> dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister) writes:
> |Fer crissake! Read the bloody standards! If you are using v42bis, you
> |are automatically using MNP5, as it is the fallback standard.
> 
> Um... which v.42bis are you using?  You're not talking about the CCITT's
> v.42bis.
[...]
> 
> |V42    is an error correction standard which incorporates MNP2,3 and 4
> 
> v.42 has nothing to do with MNP2,3, or 4, other than that they are all error
> correction mechanisms, and both v.42 and MNP4 strip start and stop bits.
> 

I thought that V.42 included LAP-M as the main protocol and MNP4 as the
alternate protocol.  They were able to do that since MNP4-1 have been
released into the public domain. At least I thought that was right.

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From: root@cibbs.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Very Big Waffle bug!!
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 21:42:34 EST
Organization: DataSoft Consulting (Toronto, Ont. Canada)

dennis@pete.uucp (Dennis Peterson) writes:

> I just got thought rebuilding my hard disk for the SECOND time. And
> Waffle did it to me!.
[stuff deleted]
> I have not worked on this much further.  I really do not want to
> rebuild my disk again.
> 
> If anyone wants more details I will be glad to pass it on what I can.
> 
> Waffle 1.65
> Dos 5.0
> Norton 6.01
> C: 210 IDE Drive
> D: 100 MB SCSI on Seagate ST01 card.

Turn off the write-back delay on your Norton Cache. This crap was happening to
me alot until I did so with my PC-CACHE. This can cause problems because it
can stop a non-reentrant DOS call and play havoc with your system.

Been running fine every since...
Mark

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From: pat%patsbbs@frcs.alt.za
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Waffle/UUCICO questions
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 15:02:42  -2
Organization: Pats System in Pretoria, RSA +27-12-73-2573

I am a "new" user of waffle, and have recently set up version
1.64.  (I'm hoping to get 1.65 shortly).  Having been playing
for a few weeks, I am now looking for some help on a few points:

Firstly UUCICO - I seem to recall seeing a mention of a patch to
allow this to support "G" as well as "g" protocols.  Since I
have a problem with poor telephone lines, running without
error-correction is just not practical; given that I am using
V42 it would improve my thoughput if I could use bigger block
sizes.  My uucp host supports 'PiagGjF', so any suggestions to
improve transfer would be appreciated,  as would details of any
patches to implement alternative protocols.

Secondly, also comms related.  I get a number of timeouts, reported
as follows (from /admin/uucp):

|
(0) WAFFLE UUCP 1.64 - Fri Dec 18 10:43:46 1992
(0) on patsbbs (dialing), debug level 1
(0) Calling frcs, device Com1, speed -27136
(0) Talking to: frcs
(0) Fatal timeout, idle for 90 seconds
(0) engine() state is _0_
(0) Fatal timeout, idle for 90 seconds
(0) Fatal timeout, idle for 90 seconds
(0) 52 packets sent, 487 received, 7 errors, at 104 cps
(0) - 1 connection(s) made -

The speed, shown as -27136 is in fact 38400, using X00 fossil locked
at this rate.  My connect is at 2400/Arq/Lapm  (I am currently using
an HST modem - this will be upgraded to a USR Dual Standard in January).
I strongly suspect that this fatal timeout is due to modem LAPM retries,
but I cannot prove this.  Is there anyplace that I can change this default
time of 90 seconds, in order that I can do some experimenting?

Lastly: I am running waffle as an "External Mailer" in Binkleyterm. Binkley
amswers the phone, if the caller hits <escape> they will drop into the FidoNet
BBS; if they enter 'waffle' instead of hitting escape they drop into waffle.
This allows a user to UUCP into the system as well as handling the fidonet
mail etc.  Is there anyone else out there running waffle in conjunction with
a Fido BBS, and how have they overcome the problems?

Regards to all
Pat


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.mail.uucp
From: martini@heaven7.in-berlin.de (Martin P. Ibert)
Subject: Re: Mixed format addresses
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:44:58 GMT
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: The Seventh Heaven, Berlin, Germany

barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr) writes:
> there is no .UUCP DNS registrar, and I don't think there ever should be.
> the .UUCP hack should just die a slow, painful, agonizing death, to be
> replaced by more sane domainized addresses.  (like .edu, .com, .us, etc)

Okay, NOW you are kidding, aren't you? I mean, to say .edu is a SANE
domainized address must be joke. The only sane top-level domain on your
list is .us, all other deserve the same fast (!) death that .uucp and .bitnet
deserve.

(Yes, I KNOW there is a difference, and I COULDN'T CARE LESS.)
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: murray@rocky.raleigh.ibm.com (Charlie Murray)
Subject: Using PM14400FX Modems with Waffle
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:22:01 GMT
Organization: IBM, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina

I've gone through the FAQ.  I've read the documentation, so I hope I don't
get flamed for this.

Is anyone using Waffle with a Practical Peripherals PM14400FX modem?  If so,
I would be interested in your experiences, and how you configured the modem,
the dialers entry, etc.  I won't be using Waffle as a BBS, just a single
user uucp mail and news feed with an internet gateway node.

Thanks for the help.

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From: ssanbeg@visual.spk.wa.us (Scott Sanbeg)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle and HPFS??
Date: 19 Dec 92 18:07:54 GMT
Organization: The Visual Market - Spokane, WA

In article <6kkyVB1w164w@geloser.login.qc.ca> rider@geloser.login.qc.ca (Serge Ayotte) writes:
>
>So like asked in the Subject, Anyone running waffle on an HPFS without
>any trouble?? Do I need to watch out for anything when I'll do this?

Nothing to watch for. We run Waffle on OS/2 here - it flies. Whenever
you run a DOS application on the HPFS, that DOS app 'thinks' it's on
a FAT filesystem becuase OS/2 makes it appear as if. But your DOS app
will reap the speed benefits of the HPFS.

>
>Beeing on this subject, since HPFS CAN take long filename, is there a
>way to disable the file "munging"?

Waffle is a DOS app, not an OS/2 app. Therefore Waffle has been coded
like any other DOS app to take 8.3 char filenames. And so it goes running
it on the HPFS also. However, if you've purchased the source code, and
have a compiler, you might be able to do something about the file munging.
If there are no special circumstances, I'd run it as is in a DOS session
box on OS/2.
Scott

 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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ssanbeg@visual.spk.wa.us (or) ...!uunet!tau-ceti!visual!ssanbeg
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.uucp
From: fenner@snobol.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: Mixed format addresses
Followup-To: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.uucp
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 06:02:09 GMT

In article <qN4mVB4w165w@ruth.UUCP> rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt) writes:
|fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:
|| Because the whole concept of the DNS was that everyone would get registered,
|| if only with an MX.  Since registration in the .US domain is free and easy, a
|| registering your own domain name is free and slightly more difficult, there's
|| no excuse for any UUCP-only site not to have a domain name.
|
|"registration in the .us domain is...easy" ??

Yup.

|The nearest MX'er would be a long distance connect for whoever
|provided the service.

An MX'er doesn't necessarily have to be directly connected to the site it is
MX'ing for.  Any Internet site that can get mail to you *somehow* can be your
MX'er.

  Bill
From: steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Modem Init with Hayes V-Series ULTRA Smartmodem 9600
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 23:30:57 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: The GRAFex Company

cutter@gloster.via.mind.org writes:

> mike@arts.com (Mike Witt) writes:
> 
> Huh? Now wait a sec. On my modem E1 enables the echo that it is complaining 
> about and E0 turns it off. And waffle wants it the other way? Where is that
> in the docs? I am not following this logic at all.

waf165 doesn't care.  It just has to know what you want.  It doesn't always
pick it up from the modem, so placing it in your static file alerts it.
So...if your ATZ0 is set for E1 and your static says E0 (or vice versa),
guess what?  Wah....

My static file sets initialize as: ATE1 Z0

The modem is set for E1.  Without the above I get the "wah...", even tho
the modem is set as I want.

s

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From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: % codes?
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 13:20:55 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

spooge@sizone.uucp (Cyberpolka On Da Jeep) writes:

> Does anyone have a full list of % codes?
[...]
> There's no complete list in the docs anywhere.

Sure there is. Look at static.doc again.

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: fenner@snobol.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: BBStevie v2.0
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 21:34:19 GMT

In article <cPqZVB3w165w@ruth.UUCP> rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt) writes:
|I'm getting fed up with the buffer overload that I get everytime I try
|to do an ASCII upload...

Well, bbstevie wasn't meant to do uploads into.  If you want to upload a
message, use the internal editor and type UPLOAD at the edit> prompt.

|I also wish that BBStevie would allow ":r" commands for sysops (with
|the appropriate access level passed on the command line).  Or possibly
|even a ":!" command or two - for sysops of course.

So either:
a) Run bbstevie from a batch file, which gets the access level passed to
   it and decides whether or not the session should be restricted with
   ! <dir>, or
b) create 2 different _editors entries, one which has the restriction and
   one which hasn't, and put /priv=9 on the unrestricted one.

  Bill
From: randall@proteus.qc.ca (Randall Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Disk Cache causes **HEADER ERRORS**
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:09:18 GMT
Reply-To: randall@proteus.qc.ca (Randall Reid)
Organization: The Proteus Group, Montreal Canada

With all the people having **header errors** I thought I should
mention a solution that helped me.

When you are using a disk cache (I use Hypercache) with deferred
writes, the disk driver kicks in occasionally to flush the cache.
When doing this it takes over the cpu while it does its writing
to disk. (At least this is what happens with Hypercache).  This
causes lost characters between the cpu and modem.

The result was that my system was aborting uucico sessions quite often
after reporting **header errors**.  Myfix was to disable the disk
cache before calling uucico, and restoring it after uucico was
complete.

I put this in my uushell.bat and polling routines:

hyperdk D OR                (turn cache off)
uucico.exe ......
hyperdk E OR                (turn it back on)

I believe many other disk caches work in a similar fashion.  Of course
you should also install a 16550AFN, especially if you are running
with Desqview.

-- 
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Le Groupe Proteus         Uucp: uunet!proteus!randall
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From: jhood@smoke.marlboro.vt.us (and the eyes in his head see the World spinning round)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: .QWK mail reader for Waffle
Date: 12 Dec 92 22:38:04 GMT
Organization: Pick a banana, any banana

In article <yogNVB19w165w@iowegia.uucp> kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle) writes:
>N. Richard Caldwell <nrc@bsbbs.columbus.oh.us> writes:
>
>> I had heard that there was some talk of updating the QWK standard.  It
>> seems to me that if you could designate a particular value for the message
>> status flag to indicate that the message text is a USENET style (I forget
>> the RFC number, sue me :) message including headers, it *might* not break
>> current QWK mail readers.  That way, future QWK mail readers could handle
>> news articles and mail more effectively.
>
>Extremely dicey. Let's put this into perspective. QWK was developed for
>the PC BBS world, and it does a good job at that task. Usenet was, I
>think, born out of larger Unix systems. Larger or not, we are talking
>DOS and Unix, and two totally and seperate origins. Now, with the advent
>of such software as Waffle, suddenly the home PC user can access Usenet
>news, and they want to read news off-line. You are trying to close the
>convergence of these two worlds by setting one message status flag in
>the QWK format?

As I understand it, the new QWK format is (will be? would have been?)
a completely new format, not an extension of the old one.

>In the time being, what is wrong with using RNEWS format batches for
>off-line reading of Usenet news and mail? It is by definition compatible
>with any system platform which handles news. All that is lacking is an
>existing off-line reader software base, because the application of such
>a reader is relatively new.

By definition, that's not off-line reading.  If you're sending rnews
batches and mail, you have to set up a complete usenet site, along
with mail addressing, polling, and what not.  Off-line reading
releives the user of the burden of setting all this up, because it
simply scarfs stuff up from an already-existing host system, with mail
addressing, news queueing and storage, and Stuff.

  --jh
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From: stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: how to "newgroup"
Keywords: Subject
Date: 13 Dec 92 05:58:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: gaia.1geje4INNbel
Organization: Oregon State University, College of Oceanography
NNTP-Posting-Host: skyking.oce.orst.edu

In article <TRTNVB1w165w@ricksys.lonestar.org> rick@ricksys.lonestar.org (Richard McCombs KB5SNF) writes:
>jon@vector0.SAC.CA.US  (Dazed N. Confused) writes:
>> Subject: header is not required, but nice.
>
>Well a Subject: header is required in a news article, and a newgruop is
>a news article, so I'm 98% sure it's required, if I could figure out
>what I did with the floppies I had the RFCs on I'd be 100% sure.

I don't even need to look. It is required.
From: abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (August Abolins)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: what the...
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:33:23 GMT
Organization: Vis-a-Vis Communications [Ontario+Quebec]

dawson@hobbes.bsan.bls.com (Willard Dawson) writes:

> >abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (August Abolins) writes:
> >
> >> I have now installed 1.65.  But this is *still* happening when I "login"..
> >> Unknown command: DATE:.
> >> Unknown command: MIKE.
> >
> >Delete or rename the file WAFFLE in your /user/abolins directory.
> >
> >This filename is an automated startup scripts. It contains
> >a list of commands you want to use when you login.
> 
> Perhaps it'd make more sense for Waffle to use another file for this
> task, something like:  @LOGIN, @PROFILE, @SHRC, etc.  Modelled after
> UNIX shell startup scripts...  Of course, as long as the filename
> is accepted, it doesn't really matter what it is.
> 
> On UNIX systems, .someapplicationrc is the customary usage.
> 																 ^^
> So, you have things like .exrc, .cshrc, .kshrc, etc.  Obviously, the
> DOS filename won't allow that, but using the '@' symbol as a substitute
> for the '.' character would let us adopt a similar convention.

I have proposed such alternate filenaming conventions to Tom,
(dell@vox.darkside.com).  I also suggested that maybe he can built this
filenaming control into the STATIC file so that we could choose the file
names we want.

Please forward your suggestion to Tom; it would provide extra support
for such a change.


---  /|ugust /|bolins  --------------[ abolins%visavis@nyongwa.cam.org ]---
From: Martin Welk <mw@pandora.mei.open.de>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: SHROOM
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 05:24:40 MET
Reply-To: Martin Welk <mw@pandora.mei.open.de>
Organization: 1st OPeN site in Saxony, Germany

Hi Mark,

you wrote...

() I have a simple question. I have seem a lot of discussion on the SHROOM
() utility, yet my searching for this utility has yeilded nothing. Can someone
() please email me (to save bandwidth) a BBS I can call or a system I can get
() this by email? I do not have FTP access, unfortunately.
()
() Any assistance would be appreciated.
() Mark

If you haven't found it yet please drop me a line, I'll send it to
you. It's about 20 KBytes long, uuencoded about 35, so that's no
problem. I don't know any BBSes and just some mail-servers but it
isn't much work for me to send it via mail... So just say what you
want :-) !

Greetings,
          Martin
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"Here is the news, coming to you every hour upon the hour.
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                                    (from Time by Electric Light Orchestra)
From: rad@railnet.nshore.ORG (Rick DeMattia)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: USERS command - DOS Waffle 1.65
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 19:27:56 EST
Organization: Railnet BBS +1 216 786 0476

Used to be (pre-1.65) that USERS j, for example, would display
the userslist starting with the letter j.  I see that my 1.65
no longer does this.  Was the change intentional?

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From: stu@valinor.mythical.com (Stu Labovitz)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Mixed format addresses
Keywords: DNS,MX
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 20:31:32 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: (What? Organized??) - Mythical Computer Systems

morpheus <morpheus@entropy.mcds.com> writes:

> stu@valinor.mythical.com (Stu Labovitz) writes:
> > [...]  Get a domain from the appropriate domain-registration
> > authorities (either registrar@nic.ddn.mil or cooper@isi.edu), register a
> > fully-qualified domain name for your host (to include HINFO and MX records
> > in the DNS database of your primary nameserver), and stop having problems!
> Okay, question...  anyone know of any system willing to give me an MX record
> for free?

Try posting in news.admin.misc and asking for a site to volunteer.  There
were some people in that group earlier this year who offered to be an MX
host for anyone (just to be their MX site, _not_ to be their connection
onto the Internet).  Sorry, but I didn't save their names or addresses,
but I'm sure that some kind souls would respond.  Good Luck, and get that
domain name!

   Stuart L Labovitz                    Internet:  stu@valinor.mythical.com
    (insert standard disclaimer here)       UUCP:   uunet!valinor!stu

   Duct tape is like the force.  It has a light side, a dark side,
      and it holds the universe together.      --- Carl Zwanzig
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From: jon@vector0.SAC.CA.US  (Dazed N. Confused)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: The woes of ^Z
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 17:37:59 PST
Organization: Vector Zero


     Recently I was reading a mailinglist I've gated into a newsgroup.
Decided to followup, and realized there was about 50% more of the
message I had never seen.

     Somewhere in the middle of the article the poster had put in a
^Z.  Waffle stopped at this point and read no further, even though
the rest of the file was about 10k.

bug bug bug bug bug bug

--Jon

   jon@vector0.SAC.CA.US                     Life is like a kiwi.