HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: "Ken, CIM Partner Engineering/Database Technologies  11-Nov-1992 0829" <hannan@gnpike.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Bela & the Flecktones schedule Dec '92
Reply-To: hannan@gnpike.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:30:29 GMT

From a B+TFT postcard I received yesterday:

Bela + The Flecktones Schedule Dec '92:

* Nov 16 change Simsbury Inn, Simsbury Ct instead of Cathedral Th, Hartford

Dec 4   Sternberger Aud, Greensboro NC
Dec 5   Trax, Charlotsville VA 
Dec 6   Flynn Theater, Burlington VT
Dec 7   Raoul's, Portland ME
Dec 8   Toads Place, New Haven CT
Dec 9   Marquee, Buffalo NY
Dec 10  Colby College, Waterville ME
Dec 11  Bearsville Th, Bearsville NY
Dec 12  Inter-Media Arts Cte, Huntington NY
Dec 13  Amherst College, Amherst MA
Dec 14  Birchmere, Alexandria VA

"Please call these places berfore you drive -
 all are subject to change!"


/Ken
From: chan@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Chan Benson)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 17:25:22 GMT
Subject: Re: McNichols Capacity (WAS: Missed the bus to McNichols:( :( :(
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead

>     > >BTW does anyone know how many seats McNichols has?
>     > 
>     > 16,500 according to DeadBase.
> 
>     It has 16,500 permanent seats (for basketball games etc).  With additional
>     seats on the floor (for concerts) it holds almost 19,000.
> 
>     See ya on the 2nd & 3rd :-)!
> 
>     Richard Stern
>     rstern@col.hp.com

Hi Richard! Glad to see you got tix.

Anyway, I hate to contradict you, but according to the Rocky Mountain
Snooze they sold 16,700 tickets for each night. I seem to recall from
the last McNichols shows that they didn't sell the upper deck behind
the stage.

			-- Chan
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: 10/74 Winterland showz
From: <MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:32:15 EST
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

In article <83090@ut-emx.uucp>, misi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (michael singley) says:
>
>How do people rank these shows?  I have none, so I wonder which I ought to
>acquire.  Heard a piece of 10/19/74 on the gdhr last year, though, and
>liked it very much.

I like 10/18 myself.  The Phil&Ned->Dark star goes greater than 45 minutes.
I've got 10/19 parts of 10/20 and parts of 10/17 and I like those too.  But
then again, I don't think I've heard ANYTHING from 74 that I didn't like!

Joe
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: blewis@helix.nih.gov (barbara lewis)
Subject: Tape database
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:47:45 GMT

I am looking for a database program to keep track of my tape collection and
hopefully be able to print cassette box labels as well.  I would appreciate
any info on such a program that runs in a DOS environment and doesn't
require a postscript printer.  I don't have windows yet and have seen some
things available for that environment.  An FTP site of such a program would
be greatly appreciated.

Barb
From: yippie5@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Cliff Willmeng)
Subject: NEWBIE
Summary: introduction 
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:22:56 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

 Hey folks, I'm brand new on this news group, this system, this computer and 
allcomputers in general, but I'm so happy with what I've connected to that I
had tojust post something in celebration.  I've been to enough shows to not be
able to count them all, but during all of those strange and sometimes 
baffleing times I dont think I was ever as confused as I am right now with 
this computer thing.

 Hopefully I'l be able to come to grips with this technology and participate in
the discussions wihtout having to yell to the lab assistant every 5 minutes.  
If I get too lost in here, though, I'll be seeing you all in Denver.  Peace in 
the hood!


                                                         yippie5

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com (Jeff Lester)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Temp extras
Date: 10 Nov 92 03:25:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Nov10.032525.786
Reply-To: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Organization: The Internet

Some friends and I had crossed channels and ended up with a number of
extra GA tickets for both Compton Terrace shows. email me if you are 
interested.

-Jeff Lester
lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
From: root@evergreen.com
Subject: deadhead needs unix guru
Reply-To: root@evergreen.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 06:35:08 GMT

I'm a newcomer to Unix and the Internet.  Any deadheads
who could help me find my around this strange new world?
-jimmy
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Re: the Wheel
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 17:39:19 GMT


I don't think the private list members are evil, no no.
But I do think that they fell into the classic trap
of trying to create a selective group based on "character"
or whatever. It's hard to do that and not gab about the
people you've excluded. I've gotten a lot of mail, some expressing
sympathy for my being talked about in an insensitive way.
I think every one also made the point that they, as members
of the list, were sure that it was not publically discussed on
the list, and that I thus shouldn't blame the Wheel as a whole.
Wrong. Once this list became a place where gossip about people
took place, it was only natural that it spread to e-mail among
the members. I think a lot of people on the list are feeling
pretty bad about what happened. As you should, I think. But
what's done is done. Your list turned into a gossip club,
maybe gossip was only a small fraction but that was enough.
Someone said that the gossip has been curtailed. Good. But
the gossip did cause hurt. If I were in your shoes I would
admit that to myself and not try to disavow responsibility.
But then move on, learn from what has happened. God knows I
used to gossip, I thought it was harmless. It's not. I rarely
do it anymore. I don't feel bad, I feel older and more mature.
We all talk about others- let's try to do it good-naturedly
rather than say things which are bound to get passed along,
quite possibly to the gossipee. It happens. Trust me :-)

Bill
From: bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Hack)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Better DEAD than a DEADHEAD!-KILL
Date: 10 Nov 1992 07:45:45 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Hack)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu



In article <1992Nov6.164045.19567@dvorak.amd.com> wwilliam@dvorak.amd.com (Wade Williams) writes:
>
>All right everyone, here is the real test for the new era of r.m.gdead.

A test you will ultimately fail.

><control> k    {that's ^k} right now!
>
>choose your editor and add the lines
>
>/bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu/a:j
>/Joseph Hack/a:j
>
>save the file and you now have a KILL file for r.m.gdead which will prevent
>you from seeing anything from or about this guy ever again.  This only
>works for 'rn' unfortunately.  Good luck for the rest.  I'm outta here.

Later Wade.  You simp. :)

>Somebody could also mail the postmaster and get this twit's new account
>revoked.

Wade could do it, but he's uh.... busy.  Yeah!  Thats it!  No, he's
not in the bathroom!
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: New Year's Run 1982
From: <MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:09:24 EST
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company


In article <1992Nov6.044649.16935@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, chadwicp@kenyon.edu
says:
>boyz bust out a song it is better than the actually breakout, how was the
>tower
>of power, and how was it hearing Lovelight, Hard to Handle, Tell Mama, and
>Midnight Hour?   I have got to know.  So would someone briefly describe the
>scene at that time and how the shows were on the whole and if possible is
>there
>anyone who has soundboards of the run who would be willing to trade for other
>boards.

I've seen video of the Etta James/Tower of Power sitting in stuff.  I don't
remember the quality of the video, guess I need to look at it again ;-).  But
I believe it must have been broadcast back then.  The strange thing is, who had
VCRs back in '82?  If it was broadcast on TV (how much was broadcast anyway?),
then was there als a radio broadcast of the whole show?

Joe Doheny
From: duane@thismoment.Corp.Sun.COM (Duane Day)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: curious
Date: 12 Nov 1992 21:18:36 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: duane@thismoment.Corp.Sun.COM (Duane Day)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thismoment.corp.sun.com


Just wondering - how does one find out whether or not one was ever
nominated for membership in "the Wheel"?

I don't suppose it matters much whether one is actively disliked or
just beneath notice, but one can't help but be curious, now, can one?

Duane

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: eris@fluke.tc.fluke.com (Chris Beckmeyer)
Subject: JOHN MAYALL
Keywords: no DC
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:40:36 GMT

sorry, no DC, but i just found a copy (on CD) of a recording i hadn't heard in
over twenty years... john mayall's BLUES FROM LAUREL CANYON.  check it out!!!
great tunes and a fine story.
 
anybody know what mayall's doin these days?

cheers-

chris
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Bill Sloan <wls1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: The Joe Hack Situation
X-Xxdate: Wed, 11 Nov 92 11: 39:26 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: wls1@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:27:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.092215.24308@lclark.edu> Matthew Hall,
hall@lclark.edu writes:
>
>	Please dont dominate the rap, Jack
>
>
>		If you got nothin' new to say.
>
>
>			If you please, lighten up the track,
>
>
>				  This train's got to run today.

One way or another
This darkness has gotta give
From: bs810@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (D. Eric Nay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Details on the Well?
Date: 9 Nov 1992 04:23:10 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


David posted some details about the Well here sometime back, namely how
to get hooked up and info about the conferences he hosts...did anyone save
that? If so, could ya forward it to me please, bs810@cleveland.freenet.edu
thanx, cya,
eric n
-- 
It left a smoking crater of my mind I'd like to blown away
From: jcap+@andrew.cmu.edu (Julian Dennis Chua)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: New Year's???
Date: 8 Nov 92 01:10:57 GMT
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Rumor has it that the Dead are gonna be in NY at the Garden for New
Year's Eve. Can someone mail me to make me either a very happy person or
a withered up ball on the ground?
Julian
jcap +@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: ting@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (ting vogel)
Subject: inner peace
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:00:09 GMT


SYMPTOMS OF INNER PEACE
-----------------------

Watch for signs of Peace.  The hearts of a great many have already
been exposed to it, and it seems likely that we could find our society
experiencing it in epidemic proportions.

Some signs and symptoms of inner peace:

 1)  Tendency to think and act spontaneouosly rather than from fear
     based on past experiences.

 2)  An unmistakable ability to enjoy each moment.

 3)  Loss of interest in judging other people.

 4)  Loss of interest in judging self.

 5)  Loss of interest in interpreting the actions of others.

 6)  Loss of interest in conflict.

 7)  Loss of ability to worry (a very serious symptom).

 8)  Frequent, overwhelming episodes of appreciation.

 9)  Contented feeling of connectedness with others and nature.

10)  Frequent attacks of smiling through the eyes from the heart.

11)  Increasing tendency to let things happen rather than make things
     happen.

12)  Increased susceptibility to Love extended by others as well as
     the uncontrollable urge to extend it.

If you have all or even most of the above symptoms, please be advised
that your condition may be too far advanced to turn back.  If you are
exposed to anyone exhibiting several of these symptoms, remain exposed
at your own risk.  This condition of Inner Peace is likely well in its
infectious stage.  Be Forewarned.

******************** Reprinted without permission *******************
Courtesy of the Olympia Fellowship of Reconciliation Newsletter, 1986

ODC?:  24 days till Tempe!!  Yeah!!!  8-) 8-) 8-)
From: kmalmber@ub.d.umn.edu (kenneth malmberg)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Satistics - FYI
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:53:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu

Well, Ive got the bug again...so here we go.

Extended Breaks

10-19-74 > 6-3-76

7-7-86 > 12-15-86

7-1-92 > 12-2-92

Average Number of songs (10 shows either side of break)

9-11-74 > 10-19-74       6-3-76 > 6-18-76
25.3                     23.3

6-21-86 > 7-7-86         12-15-86 > 1-30-87
17.9                     20.4

6-14-92 > 7-7-92
17.9

New Songs and Breakouts after break

1976
	firsts             		Breakouts
	Lazy Lightning			Dancin in the Streets
	Might As Well			Cosmic Charlie
	Samson & Delilah		High Time
	Supplication			St. Stephen
	The Wheel			Comes A Time
	Mission in the Rain

1986    firsts                          Breakouts
	Push Comes to Shove		Walkin Blues
	Black Muddy River
	Get Back

Difference between average for last ten shows before break and number of songs
in the "comeback" show.

1974  -0.3
1986  +4.1

Predictions

first show back '92   23 songs
average show length first 10 after break '92   20 songs
First four openers  Touch, Bucket, Bertha, Jackstraw
Breakouts   Lost Sailor, Comes A Time, Lazy Lightning, St. Stephen

I can't wait!
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Diamondback sighting
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 21:58:16 GMT


Hey, I see where Sixer's star Charles Barkley is going to
be joining in on the radio broadcast for Neil's NYE show.
Way to go, Sir Charles!

Who's got my stretch?

Bill
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: sowa@netcom.com (Erik Sowa)
Subject: Re: public enemy @ catalyst, 11/8
Keywords: get a life of your own, wanker
Organization: Wahoo 5
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:55:36 GMT


Hiho. r.m.gd. is not the only newsgroup blessed with the presence of Joe
Hack. Hope you all "enjoy" these reposts from alt.rap.gdead. I'll
refrain from making any comments; draw your own conclusions.

In a previous article, eli@spdcc.com (Steve Elias) says:

>PE put on a fine 11pm show last night at the catalyst in santa cruz.
>it was surely a rap-gdead scene!  Angela Davis showed up for the
>late show and chilled briefly with the boyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez onstage.
>much respect was happening.  a fine but quick show, 1st show ran late.
>flav was jumpin, chuck was mothachuckin, the terminator Xin.

>>>>> "JoeHack" == Joseph Hack <bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu> writes:

JoeHack> Why anyone would WASTE time and money attending a rap show is
JoeHack> beyond me.

In a previous article, louray@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Panayiotakis) says:

>Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't gdead stand for Grateful Dead?

>>>>> Regarding Re: public enemy @ catalyst, 11/8; bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Hack) adds:

JoeHack> Yes, it does.  I suppose you are wondering what gdead has to do
JoeHack> with rap?  The answer is nothing.  Well, Mickey Hart once
JoeHack> recorded a rap of a popular Dead tune, but he was admitted to a
JoeHack> psycho ward 3 days later.  He recovered and was released 6
JoeHack> weeks later.  There are certain mentally unstable "deadheads"
JoeHack> out there who do attend dead shows and rap concerts, but they
JoeHack> really only attend the dead shows to scalp tickets, and most
JoeHack> deadheads either ignore or redicule them.
-- 
Erik Sowa (sowa@netcom.com)
From: Trog.Martian@p4.f851.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Trog Martian)
Sender: NewsMeisterII@mcws.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Better DEAD than a DEADHEAD!
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1992 17:10:28 -0800

In a msg on <Nov 05 22:32>, Joseph Hack of 1:102/851 writes:

 JH>         The Deadheads have floated off to another tour stop, with
 JH> compliments bouncing off their earrings.  "Laid back," said David 
 JH> Fester.  "Mellow," said another observer.  "Full of light and
happiness," 
 JH> chimed in someone else.  Dirty, smelly, infectious disease carriers,
say 
 JH> I.

[...]

 JH>         These people are misfits, folks.  They should be herded 
 JH> up and kept a safe distance from modern civilization.

[...]

 JH>         These poor souls, and I said they were pathetic, have had 
 JH> their minds captured.  I'm not sure how, why or the reason behind it, 
 JH> but they are lost children, even if a lot of them are balding.  How
would 
 JH> you like to see your youngster wandering aimlessly around the country,

 JH> taking drugs, living like a vagrant, wasting his or her life?

[...]

 JH>         OK, you say, the Grateful Dead don't play hard rock, 
 JH> their lyrics aren't suggestive, some of their followers are more into 
 JH> marijuana and mind-mellowing stuff than they are heroin or cocaine. 
But, 
 JH> the band still is the Pied Piper of a lost generation, and should be
held 
 JH> accountable for its actions.  Jerry should be spending the rest of his

 JH> days in prison, not laughing all the way to the bank with the money he
has 
 JH> stolen from these mindless pathetic hippies.

[...]

 JH> May the new drug war begin with the Deadheads.  They are responsible
for 
 JH> all the real problems in this country today.

Interesting viewpoints Joseph.  I have never had the opportunity to see it
through eyes like your's, and though I can't agree with it (my experiences
AS a DeadHead being different than as you've observed from the outside) I
can understand it.  Thanks for sharing them with us.  Your opinion is
valued, though a bit grating to some, as I'm sure you'll find next you check
your mailbox.  =8->

May you find your dreams within your realm and your happiness of many hues. 
I can but hope that you live your life to it's fullest potential, to the
betterment of yourself and those around you.  And that you'll have the
foresight to let others do the same.  Happiness is different for all, Utopia
a _personal_ universe.  Invade not the dreams of others, and may they return
in kind.

Peace, Love and all that crap.

-Trog

<Big Smile>

 * Origin: TAG!  You're It! (1:102/851.4)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: GLADSTONE@csmcmvax.bitnet
Subject: Personal to Sheila Momaney
Reply-To: GLADSTONE@csmcmvax.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 01:39:46 GMT

        I got your message en re Zappa and post show listening, and tried
to respond.  As you say, perhaps your mailer is messed up.  All attempts
bounced.  Maybe later...
Gladstone>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: akr@sei.cmu.edu (Astrid Rapp)
Subject: TOUR DATE RUMOR. HAS ANYONE ELSE HEARD THIS??
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:53:05 GMT

Hey There!!

I heard a rumor that the Boyz will be playing in Pittsburgh in March (Spring
Tour).  I don't mean Starlake this time; I heard they're going to be returning
to the CIVIC ARENA!! Has anyone else heard anything about this?? Thanks.

Astrid
akr@sei.cmu.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re: Phosphor dots, eh?
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 22:07:35 GMT

In article <92316.161245MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com> <MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com> writes:
>In article <BxKIs5.1rL@well.sf.ca.us>, tnf@well.sf.ca.us (David Gans) says:
>>This is where you and I diverge.  The value of this net is in the connections
>>made by real people.  I've seen a lot of damage done by people who pretend
>>it's nothing but ones and zeroes.
>
>Maybe Joe Hack is taking his turn teaching us something David.  Maybe he's
>teaching us all to think.  Maybe we, as a group, need it.  Thanks Joe!
>

To think? What to think there aren't real people behind those phosphor
dots, to think there aren't is not what I would want to be taught,
Nope, sorry Joe, David is right the connections made by real people is
the treasure here, strangers shaking strangers hands in a virtual
sense, mind blowing concept.

Making friends with people I've never met, exchanging peace, love and
music!
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>TODD|-ODD-|:-)                   |         Nothing Left To Do But  <
>brown@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu  /|\             :-) :-) :-)        <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/ | \<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Bill Sloan <wls1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Best Dead cover band yet.
X-Xxdate: Wed, 11 Nov 92 14: 47:40 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: wls1@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:35:48 GMT

In article <92316.105828ADB103@psuvm.psu.edu> , ADB103@psuvm.psu.edu
writes:
>remember the rest(the band has the tape) but you get the point!  I think
>I've seen about every major east coast dead act and only Living Earth(in
>their late80's heyday) can even get close to these guys.  

I don't know if you've ever caught the Volunteers but they would have to
be might vote for all time best Dead cover band.  They started back in
the late 70's in the Long Island club scene.  They were a full time band
then (5 nights a week) and continued to play up till a couple of years
ago.  Terrapin Station-the entire suite, album version- note for note! 
The lead guitar player, Jeff Matson, is more consistent then Jerry- he
never has a bad night.  I took lessons from the drummer, Bill Katz,for a
while-  he was phenonomal.  Jeff can now be seen in the Zen Tricksters
who play at Wetlands from time to time and at the Right Track Inn in
Freeport on Sat. nites.  Any one remember these guys?

Another "Bill the Drummer".  Coincedence or hoax, you decide ;-)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Jeff Lester <lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com>
Subject: Temp extras
Reply-To: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 08:55:59 GMT

Some friends and I had crossed channels and ended up with a number of
extra GA tickets for both Compton Terrace shows. email me if you are 
interested.

-Jeff Lester
lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: jamie@access.digex.com (James Treworgy)
Subject: Re: questions
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:55:13 GMT

In article <1d4gorINNafn@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> eds@po.CWRU.Edu (Ethan D. Siegel) writes:
..
>as stretching, I've never experienced problems with either.  
>Remember, the longer the tape, the thinner the tape.  60 minute
>tapes are almost twice as strong (in thickness) as 100 minute 
>tapes.  I'm a fan of the HD8, but I usually can't find them

True after a point (120 minute tapes). I am not sure about 100's but I
am almost positive that 60's and 90's are the same thickness.  The 60
minute tape takes up less space in the shell than the 90.  Someone who
has a little time to kill and a calculator could measure the size of a
fully wound reel on each tape and figure it out...

-- Jamie
-- 
James A. Treworgy
jamie@access.digex.com
From: glambert@pyramid.com (George Lambert)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Upcoming Zero Gigs
Date: 12 Nov 92 03:35:17 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Pyramid Technology

And now, back to some music news.  I'm on Zero's mailing list (that's US
Mail), and I just received an announcement on some upcoming shows:

Nov 13, Parkway Theater, Oakland, CA with Buffalo Roam --- All Ages

Nov 14, Magnolias, Santa Rosa, CA --- Psychedelic Light Show

Nov 20, Last Day Saloon, San Francisco

Nov 27, Dance Palace, Point Reyes Station, CA

"Special Guests including Vince Welnick will be appearing with Zero
throughout November."

For more info write to:

Zero
PO Box 299
Lagunitas, CA  94938

Now you know

George Lambert

"I want a home on the range
Where the buffalo roam
And the people are strange"	R. Hunter, performed by Zero
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead