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From: rtp@iconoclast.West.Sun.COM (Robert Pollina)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Mailing Labels using Frame
Date: 12 Aug 1992 18:15:04 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: rtp@iconoclast.West.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: iconoclast.west.sun.com
Keywords: mailing, labels, merge

Is there anyway to use Frame to print mailing labels?  I know a program
fmmerge exists; however, I can't see how you can use it to do mailing
labels -- just form letters.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Just point me in the right direction.

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Robert Pollina
Sun Microsystems, Inc.            Phone: (602) 273-0549 x40
CSI Channels			  FAX:   (602) 273-0965
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From: keegan@pan.crd.ge.com (James G Keegan Jr)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: brochure formatting help
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:06:27 GMT
Organization: T.S.A.K.C.

i have to produce a brochure in frame. the number of
pages is uncertain at this time but i estimate that the
thing will be about 16 panels, perhaps a bit more. the
output i need is that which you'd get taking an 8.5" x
11" page, rotating it on it's side and folding it, with
the total job being at least 4 folded 8.5" x 11" pages.

i'm quite familiar with frame and use both xframe on a
sparc and frame for windows on a 486.

however i need a template or some advice on how to
begin this project. any ideas will be appreciated.

thanks.

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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: bam@bnr.ca (Bruce Matsugu 1629654)
Subject: Bug with fill in graphics mode?
Organization: bnr
Distribution: comp.text.frame, bnr.text.frame
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 19:32:12 GMT


My observation:

From the "Tools" menu, I picked the "arc" and drew a quarter-circle 
in top-right quadrant form.  Then I picked a fill pattern, and only
part of the quarter-circle was filled.  When I did a "flip u/d", the
fill pattern was okay.

Have other people experienced this problem with the "fill" operation?

---
Bruce Matsugu   --- my submissions are my opinions; BNR and NT are innocent!
Bell Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: tina@csi.on.ca (Tina Klein)
Subject: tables - Frame 3.0, MAC IIci Sys 7.0
Summary: Multipage table splitting by rows and columns 
Keywords: Tables, 8 1/2 X 11 pages, any solutions out there? 
Organization: Carp Systems International, Kanata, ON
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:53:48 GMT

I have a table question - all suggestions welcome.

Background:
This table will live on a set of command reference pages inside
a software Reference Guide.

Page layout goes something like this:
2-page spread (facing pages as loosely illustrated below) repeat as necessary
for each command.


*------	 ------*

   1       2

*------  ------*

*------  ------*

   3        4

*------  ------*


etc...

I am anchoring my table to body text which introduces it (can be
moved to the previous page, fairly arbitrary decision by me).

Suppose the table has 6 columns and 6 rows, I want to see it split
as follows:

*------  ------*
 # # #    # # #
 # # #    # # #
 # # #    # # #
*------  ------*

*------  ------*
 # # #    # # #
 # # #    # # #
 # # #    # # #
*------  ------*


Where the #'s are also very loose interpretations of my table cells.

That is, I want my readers to be able to read the top half of the table 
by looking at pages 1 and 2, and then look at the bottom half of the
table by looking at pages 3 and 4.

Has anyone already figured this out?

Thanks in advance,
T
-- 
Tina Klein, Technical Writer           CAnet: tina@csi.on.ca
CSI, 600 Terry Fox Drive - Suite 200   Phone: (613) 592-5780
Kanata, Ontario, Canada K2L 4B6        Fax:   (613) 592-0584
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: olson@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Thomas J. Olson)
Subject: resolution of greyscale images and halftones
Originator: olson@antares.cs.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:50:23 GMT




Does anyone know of a way to improve the resolution of halftoned
images printed from Frame?  I'm printing documents captured from
the screen of a Sun, where they're displayed with 64 grey levels.
In Frame under motif, the imported images are displayed using fewer
grey levels, but they still look pretty good.  When printed on our
300 dpi Laserwriter, though, the halftone algorithm used is coarse
enough to lose a lot of image detail -- mostly you're aware of the
little black and white dots used to encode the different grey levels.

Would printing on a higher resolution printer yield a better result,
or is this a built-in limitation of Frame (or PostScript)?  If the
limitation is in Frame, is there any way to change it?

thanks,

--Tom Olson


-- 
Tom Olson (olson@virginia.edu) | What's the spring breathing jasmine and rose,
Dept. of Computer Science      | What's summer with all its gay train,
University of Virginia         | What's the splendor of autumn to those
Charlottesville, VA 22903      | Who barter their freedom for gain?
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: jmiller@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (Julie A. Miller)
Subject: Frame -> DECwrite (VAX) filter?
Organization: Schlumberger CAD/CAM; Ann Arbor, Michigan (USA)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:26:33 GMT

Hello, everyone:

What I am looking to do is port FrameMaker files (from 3.0)
created on a Sun with active text links into DECwrite on a
VAXstation.  Since FrameViewer does not work on a VAXstation,
we are investigating using BookReader on the VAX
platform to perform this operation for on-line documentation.

I have talked with Frame reps and they had no clue. I also 
spoke with a rep from Blueberry Software (a third party vendor
that makes filters for FrameMaker); this was also no
good. I would appreciate it if anyone can direct me to 
anything useful.

Please reply by e-mail, since I don't read the newsgroups
very often. I will summarize if I get enough responses.

Thank you.
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Julie A. Miller			       Internet: jmiller@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com
Technical Documentation Specialist	         jmiller@aaaca1.sinet.slb.com
Schlumberger CAD/CAM		           UUCP: uunet!sharkey!applga!jmiller
Ann Arbor, MI (USA)  +1 313 995 6116      SINet: AAACA1::JMILLER
From: cortesi@informix.com (David Cortesi)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Drawing dashed lines
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:45:20 GMT
Reply-To: cortesi@informix.com
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Aug18.113340.118@stc.nato.int> koelman@cuby.stc.nl
(Ton Koelman) writes regarding Frame graphic tools:

> I particularly like the alignment stuff and the way it keeps text
> centered in boxes. Multiple lines of text become separate objects
> however so you have to align and group those if you want them centered
> in a box..

You should avoid textlines except when you specifically want
exactly one line of text.

Instead make a little text column. It is much more convenient to
handle multi-word, multi-line text in a small text column.
You have much greater control over the text, because you have
full use of the para format dialog box.  And you can drag a little
text column, group it, treat it like any other graphic object.

With care & some luck you can even have xref and index
markers, xrefs to main text, hypertext links, and
sometimes even autonumbers :-) in a text column in a drawing.
From: bgossett@lsil.com (Brent Gossett 6108)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: **HELP with Page Numbers in TOCs**
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:01:31 GMT
Reply-To: bgossett@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Logic Corporation

---
I'm using a book file to generate a TOC from the chapter files that make up a book.  I have a autonumbering format in the chapter paragraph formats that allows Frame to update them if the order of the chapters is rearranged.  The format is

Chapter <n+>< >< >< >	(The blank ones are used for numbering sections, tables, etc.)

In the footer of each master page, the variable string Running H/F 3-# (where Running H/F 3 is <$paranumonly[chapter]>) inserts page numbers of the form 1-1, 1-2, 1-3, etc.

Here's the problem:  I want the same format for page numbers to appear in the generated TOC.  I currently have to select "Setup File" in the book file and edit the page number prefix for each chapter file, inserting 1- for chapter 1, 2- for chapter 2, etc.  This works fine until I have to rearrange the chapters in the book.  Upon re-generating the TOC, Frame correctly updates the chapter and page numbers within each file.  HOWEVER, Frame does NOT update the page numbers referenced in the TOC unless I manua



lly change the page number prefixes in the book file's "Setup File" option.  

Is there any way to have Frame automatically update the prefixes in the book file "Setup" by pulling the chapter number from each file?

I'd appreciate any help you can offer.

Thanks.

Brent Gossett 
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From: rlspear@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (Ski Bum)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: FrameMaker footnotes
Keywords: footnotes
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:18:29 GMT
Reply-To: rlspear@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (Ski Bum)
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

My problem: I would like to have footnotes have a double space
between two or more footnotes at the bottom of any particular page
within a document. However, I always want single footnotes and the
last footnote of several on a page to have no space below it. That is,
if I want an inch and a half margin on the bottom of the page, then
single footnotes on a page and the last footnote of multiple footnotes
on a page should have the their last line of text an inch and a half
above the bottom of the page. 

If I use the Paragragh Format window, then I can set the basic
paragraph format for the footnote to have the Space below each
footnote to be 10pts (lets say). However, then single footnotes and the
last footnote of several will have an extra 10pts of space added to
the bottom margin. Thus, I have an inch and a half plus 10pt margin.

The only solution I see is to not change the Paragraph format for the
footnotes and then as a very last step after my final draft of the
paper, go thru the entire paper and have another para format set up
for footnotes that would insert the space between mult footnotes.

Any ideas on how I might bypass this manaul method and have this done
automatically? Please mail responses. Thanks......

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From: millard@acsu.buffalo.edu (Peter G. Millard)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Master page text columns to body page
Keywords: master bodt page text columns
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:16:54 GMT
Organization: UB

bobmcc@tcs.com (Bob McCormick) writes:

>In article <1992Aug18.234716.12922@medtron.medtronic.com>, kate@medtronic.COM (Kate Seastone,MS-10,9295344,) writes:
>|> 
[stuff about using left & right master pages deleted]
>|> showed on the "left" body page become 'fixed' on the page an
>|> I get the text columns for the "right" page as well. 
>|> ie. Now I have 8 text columns on my body page, and all are 
>|> slightly shifted and overlapping now.  

>The key (I think) is the tags.  Are the tags on the Right master the same as 
>the tags on the Left master?  If they are the same (exact same number and 
>tags) then FM should move/resize the old Right-format columns to look like 
>Left-format columns.  However, if the column tags don't match, then it does 
>A "union"operation and you get lots of columns.
>=-=-=-=-=-
>Bob McCormick, Systems Engineer           | bobmcc@tcs.com +1-510-649-3881
>Teknekron Communications Systems, Inc.    | bobmcc@tcsi.tcs.com
>2121 Allston Way, Berkeley, CA, 94704 USA | uunet!tcs!bobmcc

I was recently have a similar problem and was wondering if there is another
solution to my crude :) one.
I have a decent size (80 page) document in Frame 3.1 under X on Sun machines,
which is split into different flows for different chapters. When I renamed
the flows (so that they would be different names) frame would not use my 
Right & Left text columns. However, I _WAS_ getting the correct headers
on the tops of the pages, just the wrong size (and location) of my text
columns. I made sure both master page text columns were labeled 'A', and
that autoconnect was on, but it still didn't work.

Everything worked fine when I renamed both of my master page flows to the 
same name as the current flow. ie if I was in flow "Chapter 1", I renamed
the master page flows to "Chapter 1" and everything worked fine.
It seems as though frame won't use the correct size text column if the flow
is named something other then the current flow. I solved the problem by 
renaming all my flows back to 'A' along with the flows in my master pages.

Has anyone else run into this problem? Is there any way to make frame use
the correct size text columns for several different body flows (which have
different flow tags)?

Any help would be appreciated.
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	Peter G. Millard  *  INTERNET: v057n5um@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu           
 	SUNY @ Buffalo    *          : millard@acsu.buffalo.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: tina@csi.on.ca (Tina Klein)
Subject: hypertext
Organization: Carp Systems International, Kanata, ON
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:39:16 GMT

I am running Frame 3.0 on a MAC IIci.

1) I have just hyperlinked an 80 page reference document.
   There are links within the text AND
   navigational icon links which are feeding from a set of L/R
   master pages.

   When the document is saved as View Only (required for links 
   to work, of course) and my users navigate with the scroll
   bar _instead of_ my icons,  they also (unintentionally)
   disable the icon links which feed from the master page if these
   links change x-y co-ordinates relative to the terminal.

   Why? 

2) Is there a way to set up conditional Column Layout from Master Page?
   For example, I want the hypertext version to use the L/R Masters
   with the icons, and the regular paper version to use master L/R
   without icons ...

3) Still haven't found a workable solution for the Table problem ...
   Any more solutions out there?
   (Table needs to split by row and by column across many pages...)

Thanks in advance ...
-- 
Tina Klein, Technical Writer           CAnet: tina@csi.on.ca
CSI, 600 Terry Fox Drive - Suite 200   Phone: (613) 592-5780
Kanata, Ontario, Canada K2L 4B6        Fax:   (613) 592-0584
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: eboston@hpbs843 (Ed Boston)
Subject: Interleaf -> Frame
Reply-To: eboston@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara Division
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:43:51 GMT

--
I have some files in Interleaf that I want to convert over to Frame.  Has any-
one out there done this and if so, what filter pack did you use?  What sort
of problems were encountered and formats would not convert?  I know that no
filter can be 100%, but I would like to know how much work will be involved
in the conversion.
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Edward Boston

   phone: (208) 323-3842
internet: eboston@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com
 US Mail: Edward Boston
          Hewlett-Packard Company
          Boise Printer Division
          M/S 130
          11311 Chinden Blvd.
          Boise, ID  83714
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: tbecker@zwei.informatik.uni-kl.de (Thomas Becker)
Subject: template directory
Summary: how to make frame look into another template directory?
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 08:17:02 GMT

Hi,

I have my own set of frame templates stored in a directory.
Is there any way to make FrameMaker look into this directory instead of
the default fmtemplate directory?

Thomas

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Thomas Becker                       e-mail: tbecker@informatik.uni-kl.de
Computer Science Department                      phone: +49 631 205 3295
University of Kaiserslautern, P.O. Box 3049        fax: +49 631 205 3558
D-6750 Kaiserslautern, Germany	                 Nothing to discalim ...
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Thomas Becker                       e-mail: tbecker@informatik.uni-kl.de
Computer Science Department                      phone: +49 631 205 3295
University of Kaiserslautern, P.O. Box 3049        fax: +49 631 205 3558
D-6750 Kaiserslautern, Germany	                 Nothing to discalim ...
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: bochen@almaacc.ssc.gov (Bo Chen)
Subject: WANTED frammaker2latex or frammaker2tex
Reply-To: bochen@alma.ssc.gov		
Organization: superconducting super collider laboratory
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 00:20:04 GMT
From: nicos@csa.bu.edu (Nicos Kontopoulos)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: filters (framemaker -> xxx)
Date: 16 Aug 92 22:58:16 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA


I am interested in converting a framemaker document to other formats.

I can save a framemaker file as PostScript from WITHIN framemaker.
I would like to be able to do this without running framemaker (for example
from my UNIX shell.)

I would also like to be able to convert framemaker to other formats (other
than PostScript) like Group III Fax or TIFF and PICT for the Macintosh.

All filters that are mentioned in the FAQ deal with converting FROM other
formats TO framemaker. Again I'd like to do the opposite.

I'd appreciate any help,



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   Nicos Kontopoulos                             Voice: (617) 787-1780
   INTERnet: nicos@cs.bu.edu                    BITnet: ecolpqc@buacca
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: billg@btree.uucp (Bill Geiger)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 17:31:00 GMT
Organization: Brooktree Corporation
Subject: TIFF support on UNIX
Distribution: na

I am seeking to install filtering capability in the UNIX version of
Framemaker to support import by reference of TIFF files.  Both the Mac
and MSW versions support the import of TIFF files, an one could save the
Frameimage version, but I would like to use the normal UNIX architecture
of reading the file suffix, running a filter as defined in MifRead and
importing the resulting mif file on the fly.  A filter is supplied by
Frame for converting tiff to Sun raster format.  I have installed this
filter into the MifRead script and the suffixes file. It appears to work for
bi-tonal ( black & white) images but fails for greyscale.  The real
confusing aspect of this is that the filter works when ran "manually". 
There is no explanation from Frame as to why they include this filter but
do not install it in the MifRead script.  The results I have found may
be the answer.  Frame does not include a tiff to anything filter in the
filterpack and I have not found a commercial vendor of a TIFF to mif filter.   

I, therefore, have two questions:

1. After the MifRead conversion script, does Framemaker require an mif
file or will it accept one of the other natively supported formats such
as Sun raster or eps.  I have had conflicting responses to this question
from Frame.

2. Has anyone written a TIFF to mif filter?? 

Thank you for your response.

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|__       | Bill Geiger                                                    |
|| \      | Brooktree Corp.                                                |
|| /  /   | 9950 Barnes Canyon Road                                        |
|| \ -|-  | San Diego, CA 92129                                            |
||  | |   | 619/535-3431                                                   |
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|__       | Bill Geiger                                                        |
|| \      | Brooktree Corp.                                                    |
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: trice@bnr.ca (Tony Rice P885)
Subject: Problem with connecting flows
Organization: Systems Development Environment Support, BNR, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:22:28 GMT

Gotta good one here:

I have a document which is restarting paragraph numbering in the
middle of the document.  After viewing the special characters I 
found the "curly-S-section-thingy" meaning end of flow.       

I aha I said, connect the two flows.  Easy right?  Wrong.  

All lines of the document claim to be in flow A. I cant select the two
areas.  The document acts as if it were 2 documents appended to each other
with a definite end of document where the problem is occurring.

Any suggestions?

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                      Tony R. Rice                      
         Systems Development Environment Support         
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trice@bnr.ca                        Bell-Northern Research     
mrmidi@aol.com                  Research Triangle Park, NC
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Opinions are my own, and do not reflect those of BNR or NT
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                       "Go Hokies"
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From: zoe@cypress.West.Sun.COM (Zoe Friedlander)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Importing MacDraw graphics into UNIX FrameMaker
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:56:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sunsoft, A Division of Sun Microsystems Corporation
NNTP-Posting-Host: sparkle
Originator: zoe@sparkle.West.Sun.COM

My FrameMaker documentation says that a filter exists that allows me 
to import MacDraw files.  Could someone tell me which filter that might
be? and does the file need to have any special suffix?  Thanks very
much.
From: gilbert@esd.dl.nec.com (Russell Gilbert)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Rotate Objects != 90 degrees?
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:52:23 GMT
Organization: NEC America, Engineering & Support

From article <1992Aug17.180326.10584@SSD.intel.com>, by davidl@ssd.intel.com (David Levine):
> In article <1992Aug14.111156.16780@eua.ericsson.se> euakan@eua.ericsson.se (Theo.Kanter) writes:
>>In FrameMaker 3.0 I would like to be able rotate Objects any nymber of 
>>degrees. Not just 90 degrees. This works for lines by dragging the ends 
>>around, but is there some function which allows one to rotate objects by
>>an arbitrary number of degrees?
> 
> Use the following key sequences:
> 
> 	<Esc> g x : RotateObjectEXactlyByTypingInAngle
> 	<Esc> g i : RotateObjectInteractivelyByMousing
> 
> This used to be an undocumented feature (<Esc> x x 1 and <Esc> x x 2), but 
> now I think it's documented.  It doesn't work on all object types... for
> example, I think you can't rotate text, grouped objects, or polygons.

According to the help text...

"Works on a line, rectangle, polyline, polygon, or freehand curve."