HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: snewton@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Steven E. Newton)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp,news.software.b
Subject: Immediate posting with C News & nntp
Summary: How to do it?
Date: 7 Jan 1993 19:56:21 GMT
Followup-To: news.software.nntp
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston


Greetings,

I'm running nntp 1.5.11 and C News performance release of May 20, 1992.
My question is: how do I get articles posted through nntp to show up right
away, instead of at the next invocation of newsrun?  It appears that I need
to have nntp invoke newsrun or newsspool when the nntp session ends, but
I've tried several configuration setups without success.  The default command
in nntp's conf.h file has inews -W, but that flag is called 'obsolete' in 
the version of inews that I have.

The only success I've had is to manually add the -i option to the call to
newsspool in injnews, but this makes posting articles dreadfully slow,
because they are spooled as the user posts them, instead of at the end of
an nntp session.


Thoughts?

Steven
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From: cambler@zeus.calpoly.edu (Christopher J. Ambler, Phish)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Getting NNTP 1.5.11 working on SCO UNIX
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:54:55 GMT
Organization: When Fashion Dictates, you're living in a Fashion State!

If anyone has a working NNTP 1.5.11 running under SCO UNIX (sys v 3.2.2
with TCP 1.1.1b), I'd *really* like a copy.

I seem to have problems compiling it. Structures netent and hostend in
access_inet.c are unknown, and netdb.h seem to be missing.

I got CNews and rn to work fine, but NNTP is proving almost impossible.

HELP! Thanks!
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From: jxxl@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: C-News to nntpxmit upload
Date: 7 Jan 93 00:05:04 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Church of Ill-Repute

I'm installing C news in an all Internet setting and I'm confused about how
the outgoing feed works. The incoming feed is working fine. Articles to be
fowarded are listed in $site/togo with their sizes. I think that's what I
want. Eventually, nntpxmit will transmit the articles to the upstream site.
But where do the togo files get converted--if in fact they do--to some list
that nntpxmit works from? I think it has something to do with sendbatches and
the batchparms config file but I can't find the winning combo. I'd appreciate
any advice from you C-news veterans and a sample batchparms line, if
applicable. Thanks.

John
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp,news.admin
From: ray@exicom.OZ.AU (ray)
Subject: problem with NONEWSRUN define with nntp1.5.11 and May 92 Cnews
Originator: news@xig
Organization: Exicom Australia Pty Ltd
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:56:01 GMT


this must have been dealt with before (but i wasn't tuned in at the time) ..

when NONEWSRUN is defined in nntp1.5.11's conf/common.h
(assume BATCHED_INPUT is also defined),
then files dumped in in.coming/ by the nntpd when another nntpd
sends news via IHAVE, will be of the form
pid.number (e.g. 10234.999) where 
pid is the process id of the nntpd and "number" is
a counter starting from 0 and incrementing by 1 for each file.

Because C News treats files of format *.7 as special, then every time
a news nntp connection srtarts up and a file xxxx.7 is produced
(the seventh file dumped in in.coming for that nntp session), 
Cnews is going to think that file is ocmpressed, which is isn't, 
and will dump it in the bad/ directory

Is this a well known bug?


ray@exicom.OZ.AU
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: wayne@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: NEWS POSTS STAYING LOCAL 
Followup-To: news.software.nntp,news.newusers.questions
X-Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:54:34 GMT
X-From: wayne@kean.ucs.mun.ca

X-Sender: usenet@news.ucs.mun.ca (NNTP server account)
X-Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
X-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 11:33:32 GMT

I am running VMS version 5.4-1 on a VAX. I have ANUNEWS running locally
with a news feed coming from an upstream site. All newsgroups of interest
get transferred to this local site.

I am having diffucilty determining what is necessary so that local posts
get passed out to the internet. Right now, local posts stay local. Although 
this is ok in some instances, posts to newsgroups gotton from the upstream 
siteneed to to go back out to the net.

Any suggestions regarding technique used, documentation references, etc. 
would be appreciated.

Wayne Hann
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: laum@csri.toronto.edu (Mark Lau)
Subject: Need nntpd for VAX
Keywords: nntpd, VMS
Date: 5 Jan 93 02:40:24 GMT

Hello all,

I am wondering if there is a public domain nntpd for VAX.  Our current news
machine is a VAX running VMS and apparently lacks a decent news reader.  I
am therefore considering running nntpd on the VAX and let the users access
news from their own UNIX workstations thru NNTP.  Sounds feasible?
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp,comp.sources.bugs
From: gbaldwin@eldec.com (Gordon Baldwin)
Subject: can't post using nn
Organization: ELDEC Corp.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:03:15 GMT

We have just gotten news going here and I am having some problems. Our 
setup is C-news and nntp. I can post using the postnews that was supplied 
with C-news. I have installed nn and it seems to be running fine, but I
can't post news. When I try I get a paragraph mailed to me with "Article 
not accepted by server; not posted" repeated about 25 times. I have tested
inews and that seems to work fine. Does anyone have any pointers as to where
I should be looking?

Gordon Baldwin
ELDEC Corp
Lynnwood WA
gbaldwin@eldec.com
From: kurt@dna.lth.se (Kurt Swanson)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: select earlier articles in reading mode?
Date: 6 Jan 93 08:16:19 GMT
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden

giles@promed.com.au (Giles Lean) writes:
>Now and then I find an interesting response to an article and want
>to go back to the original posting.  The 'b' command will do this
>(eventually) if the article was on the selection menu; but not if
>I read (or didn't read) the article some time last week.

When you are reading the response, type "G<RET><RET><RET>"... This
will bring you up a level to a menu which shows all articles of the
same subject...
-- 
Kurt Swanson, Dept. of Computer Science,
Lunds universitet.  Kurt.Swanson@dna.lth.se
-- 
Kurt Swanson, Dept. of Computer Science,
Lunds universitet.  Kurt.Swanson@dna.lth.se
From: ce202a2@prism.gatech.EDU (Peter L. Thomas)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: KILL-FILE manipulation programs
Summary: Is there a program that allows convenient modification/entry of kill fi
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:19:48 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I'm looking for a program that modifies, allows entry of, and various
manipulation of nn kill files?

Any possibilities?

--Pete
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"Figures never lie, but liars always figure."
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
Internet: ce202a2@prism.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: ellis@rtsg.mot.com (John T Ellis)
Subject: Help with init file
Followup-To: news.software.nn
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:05:24 GMT

After reading the FAQ and the FM, I can't seem to get the mail-header
or news-header to work correctly.  I have the following two statements
in my init file (full init file included at end of post) - 

set mail-header Reply-To: ellis@rtsg.mot.com
set news-header Reply-To: ellis@rtsg.mot.com

When I invoke nn and use the :set to see what is set, I get the following

Variable settings
* also-subgroups            = on
* append-signature-mail     = on
* append-signature-post     = off
* auto-select-subject       = on
* collapse-subject          = -1
* confirm-append            = on
* confirm-auto-quit         = on
* date                      = on
* expert                    = on
* folder                    = "/home/loden/ellis/News"
* header-lines              = "NFRW=SD"
* include-art-id            = on
* include-mark-blank-lines  = on
* mail-format               = on
> mail-header               = "NULL"
* mail-script               = "/home/loden/ellis/.nn/aux"
* new-group-action          = 4
> news-header               = "NULL"
* news-script               = "/home/loden/ellis/.nn/aux"
* orig-to-include-mask      = 1
* printer                   = "lpr -Plab"
* query-signature           = off
* save-counter              = ".%02d"
* sort                      = on
* sort-mode                 = 1
* time                      = on
* wrap-header-margin        = -1


Question 1 - Why are the header variables NULL?
Question 2 - Why are they listed as local (>) variables?
Question 3 - How can I fix this?

Any and all help is appreciated.

Thanks.

John
ellis@rtsg.mot.com

----- Begin ~/.nn/init file -----

set also-subgroups
set append-signature-mail
unset append-signature-post
set auto-select-subject
unset collapse-subject
set confirm-append
set date
set expert
set folder ~/News
set header-lines NFRW=SD
set include-art-id
set include-mark-blank-lines
set mail-format
set mail-header Reply-To: ellis@rtsg.mot.com
set mail-script ~/.nn/aux
set new-group-action 4
set news-header Reply-To: ellis@rtsg.mot.com
set news-script ~/.nn/aux
set orig-to-include-mask 1
set printer lpr -Plab
unset query-signature
set save-counter .%02d
set sort
set sort-mode 1
set time
unset wrap-header-margin
sequence
     local
     rtsg
     mot
     comp
     rec
     misc
     chi

----- End ~/.nn/init file -----
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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: epstein@cs.uiuc.edu (Milt Epstein)
Subject: Re: bug causing a corrupted .newsrc file
Reply-To: epstein@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:37:58 GMT

In <1993Jan9.022528.8181@news.uiowa.edu> mtpins@icaen.uiowa.edu (Michael T Pins) writes:

>pb@idca.tds.philips.nl (Peter Brouwer) writes:
>
>>There is a bug in nn causing group names to be lost in the the .newsrc file.
>>There is a news group comp.lang.c!!. 
>>When a unsubscribe is done on this newsgroup the .newsrc file loses the
>>newsgroups beneath the comp.lang.c!! line.
>>I solved this by disabling the group in the GROUP file.
>
>There certainly shouldn't be a newsgroup called comp.lang.c!!, as a ! is
>the unsubscribe mark in every major newsreader.  There is a comp.lang.c++,
>which shouldn't cause any problems.  If you do have a comp.lang.c!!, it's
>bogus and should be nuked.

While this particular case may involve a bogus newsgroup, there really
is a bug here (and a particularly nasty one, if you ask me :-).  I
reported this here some time back (and got no response :-).  In my
case, the bug appeared when the same group appeared in my .newsrc
twice, first unsubscribed (i.e. with a `!'), and then subscribed (i.e.
with a `:').  When I ran nn, everything in my .newsrc after the
unsubscribed line for that group was deleted.  While it is
questionable whether the same group should appear twice in the
.newsrc, certainly there should not be massive deletions from the
.newsrc if it does happen.

-- 
Milt Epstein
Department of Computer Science
University of Illinois
epstein@cs.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: kurt@dna.lth.se (Kurt Swanson)
Subject: A suggestion for the (C)ancel command...
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 10:13:09 GMT

I think that the "article" that gets composed (and eventually posted
to "control") when one is cancelling his own article, ought to contain
the same "Distribution:" line as the original article.
-- 
Kurt Swanson, Dept. of Computer Science,
Lunds universitet.  Kurt.Swanson@dna.lth.se
-- 
Kurt Swanson, Dept. of Computer Science,
Lunds universitet.  Kurt.Swanson@dna.lth.se
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes)
Subject: Re: What does "Articles: 2 of 585/23" mean?
Originator: guckes@medusa
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 09:36:11 GMT

tom@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Tom McCain) writes:


>When I'm in the article selection menu I see "Articles: 2 of 585/23"
>in the upper right hand corner of the screen.
>I've figured out that the 2 (in this example) means 2 articles available.
>What does the 585/23 mean?

It means: 585 articles in 23 groups to read until nirwana.

Sven :)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: jstine@logiconultra.com (Jim Stine)
Subject: In-coming mail to news question
Followup-To: news.software.b
Keywords: mail news
Organization: Logicon_Ultrasystems
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:50:04 GMT

Is there any way to cause in-coming e-mail to be posted as news articles?   
I would like to post any e-mail coming to a particular address to a a  
particular news-group.  Optimally, I would like to have the e-mail subject  
transferred to the news article subject as well.

Is this possible?

Is there a script or program or something that somebody has written that  
will do it for me?

Thanks for any and all help - I will post the results.

Please e-mail any help to:

Jim Stine

jstine@logiconultra.com

no disclaimers...
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes)
Subject: "<num> followups" display in status line ?
Originator: guckes@medusa
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:29:38 GMT

Is there a way to have a display for the number of (available/selected)
followups to the current article (in read mode) for the status line ?

I'd like to have such a display as I sometimes have to decide whether to
read on (i.e. read the followups) before I post/respond myself.

The way I usually find out about this is by hitting "Z" to stop reading
and look for possible followups myself and then hitting "Z" again to
continue reading.

As always I'd rather have the software do that for me.

-- 
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Still searching for a good offline folder reader/editor for a Macintosh.
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: mtpins@icaen.uiowa.edu (Michael T Pins)
Subject: Re: nn code to "decode" multi-part sources
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:33:49 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
X-Newsreader: NN version 6.4.19
Keywords: c code multi-part decode

brian@ilinx.wimsey.bc.ca (Brian J. Murrell") writes:

>I'm hoping somebody out there familiar with the source code can 
>help me.  I'm making a utility to extract the news articles out
>of a newsgroup and use them to create a previously split uuencoded
>posting.  I've gotten to the point where I can put all of the
>articles back together into files.

>What I need now is a utility to remove the junk in-between uuencoded
>chunks of the file.  I have written an awk script to do this, but it
>is really ugly!! nn seems to do this quite nicely.

>I would do this myself, but I lost my copy of the source to nn, and
>really would like to avoid downloading the whole package, if I could.

>Even a pointer to which C source file could save me tons of time.

You'll likely want to strip the headers and tails off each article before
cat'ing them together.  You may want to grab the source for uucat, which
does exactly this, and take a look at it.  You can find the uucat source
at grind.isca.uiowa.edu in the unix/utils area.

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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: tom@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Tom McCain)
Subject: What does "Articles: 2 of 585/23" mean?
Organization: Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN
Date: 12 Jan 93 03:41:07 GMT


When I'm in the article selection menu I see "Articles: 2 of 585/23"
in the upper right hand corner of the screen.  I've figured out that
the 2 (in this example) means 2 articles available.  What does the
585/23 mean?  Thanks!

--tom
--
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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: giles@promed.com.au (Giles Lean)
Subject: select earlier articles in reading mode?
Organization: Pro Medicus
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 05:43:51 GMT


Now and then I find an interesting response to an article and want
to go back to the original posting.  The 'b' command will do this
(eventually) if the article was on the selection menu; but not if
I read (or didn't read) the article some time last week.

Suggestions, anyone?

Thanks,

Giles
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From: wohler@hw1175.sap-ag.de (Bill Wohler)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: can't initialize database
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:24:49 GMT
Reply-To: Bill Wohler <wohler@sap-ag.de>
Organization: SAP AG  Walldorf, Germany
Phone: +49 6227-341658  Home: +49 6221-163255
             <tommy.726334621@hoodlum>
X-Mailer: MH [Version 6.7.2]

> Fatal system error:
> alt.activism (6): cannot open 'x' file (mode=82, errno=2)

  ting!  my faq alert just went off.  however, i'm not sure--as a
  parity check, send me mail if you've seen this before.

  assuming that this becomes a faq, please send a faq-ready response
  to tommy.  the first one who sends a working answer to him--wins!

						--bw
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: kurt@dna.lth.se (Kurt Swanson)
Subject: Why can't nn split digests in folders or articles?
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 10:14:48 GMT

It's somewhat annoying, that a normally posted digest, which nn can
split, cannot be split after it has been saved into a folder.  Is
there any strong reason for this?
-- 
Kurt Swanson, Dept. of Computer Science,
Lunds universitet.  Kurt.Swanson@dna.lth.se
-- 
Kurt Swanson, Dept. of Computer Science,
Lunds universitet.  Kurt.Swanson@dna.lth.se
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: giles@promed.com.au (Giles Lean)
Subject: Re: select earlier articles in reading mode?
Organization: Pro Medicus, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 03:42:42 GMT

tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore) writes:

>In <1993Jan6.081619.25496@lth.se> kurt@dna.lth.se (Kurt Swanson) writes:

>>When you are reading the response, type "G<RET><RET><RET>"...

>Which I use all the time and is absolutely wonderful, but do keep in
>mind that if the article has expired, this still won't bring it up.
>Nothing you can do about that, just don't be surprised if the original
>article doesn't show up, but a number of responses to it do.

Fortunately for me the expire problem isn't serious.  Three (human)
newsreaders, no downstream sites and lots of disk ... :-)

Also offered by Thomas Aaron Insel <tinsel@uiuc.edu>

	map show B (
		goto-group " " "s"
		'*' 'Z'
		)

... which doesn't bring up a new menu but drops you straight into
the articles.

Thanks to all,

Giles
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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: mtpins@icaen.uiowa.edu (Michael T Pins)
Subject: Re: KILL-FILE manipulation programs
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:30:14 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
X-Newsreader: NN version 6.4.19

ce202a2@prism.gatech.EDU (Peter L. Thomas) writes:

>I'm looking for a program that modifies, allows entry of, and various
>manipulation of nn kill files?

>Any possibilities?

How about vi?  :-)
Never munge with the KILL file directly, that's nn's job.
You can edit the kill file with the editor of your choice, and it will
be recompiled into KILL the next time you run nn.
I suppose someone could whip up something that would edit the kill file
without the user having to know the format, but I don't have time at the 
moment.

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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: efs@summa4.mv.com (Ed Sinamark)
Subject: Help !!!
Organization: Summa Four Inc.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 13:30:27 GMT

The Sysadmin that setup our Usenet system with nn left a while ago and
now we are rotating the sysadmin duties among the desing engineers.  The
problem is that nn will no longer run and no one has any idea on how to
restart it.  The problem is that when you run nn it say:

nnmaster has not updated database in xxx hours

We are receiving news and email so thats not the problem.  I have looked
through the man pages on nn and it mentions nnmaster(8) but there is
no man page on nnmaster and there is no executable nnmaster in the same
directory as the nn executable.  If anyone could give me an idea as to 
how to get nn started back up it would be greatly appreciated.  I am
using TIN right now and I don't really like it.  And there are other
non computer people who have just figured out how to run nn, starting them
off again with tin would not be fun.  

Thanks in advance


-- 
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25 Sundial Ave      | above are my own and    |  we WOULD go insane"     |
Manchester, NH 03103| not those of my employer|            Jimmy Buffett |
efs@summa4.mv.com   |                         |                          |
From: kleber@scws1.harvard.edu (Gwydden)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: NO UPDATE
Keywords: question
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:42:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc.kleber.726871368

Could someone explain the *NO*UPDATE* message that sometimes appears
in the status line?  That is, first, under what conditions does it 
appear?  Second, is there any way to forne nn to update your .newsrc
to reflect messages read in a group when it's in *NO*UPDATE* mode?
No mention of this appears anywhere in the man page or the faq.

--Michael Kleber                 I don't have an overactive imagination...
  kleber@husc.harvard.edu        I have an underactive reality...   --EG
From: leonard@aix3090b.uky.edu (Leonard Lauria)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: nn for rs6000
Date: 12 Jan 93 10:50:02 GMT
Distribution: news
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Path: leonard

Does anyone know of a nn reader built for the rs6000.  I am running aix3.2.2
and have an older nn to try, but I thought I would check and see if anyone
else has done the deed yet.

thanks

leonard

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