HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: a-giles@uchicago.edu (Aaron Giles)
Subject: How do I drive a 16" with my 8/24 card?
Reply-To: a-giles@uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago High Energy Physics
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:38:51 GMT

I suspect this is something that should be in the FAQ, but I'm
thinking of moving to a 16" color monitor and selling off my B&W
portrait display.  Right now I'm running the latter off an 8/24 card.
I know that this card, being fairly old, knows nothing of the 16"
monitors, but I recall hearing that a ROM upgrade would do the trick.
My questions are: (a) is this true? (b) how do I get it? (c) how much
does it cost? and (d) what depths can I get on the 16" with it?

Of course this latter question has to do with further rumors that the
8/24 would only drive it at 8-bit, though for some strange reason the
8/24GC upgrade would drive it at 16-bit.  Go figure.

Anyhow, thanks for the help.  I'm looking forward to your responses!

Aaron Giles
a-giles@uchicago.edu
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.hardware:19077 misc.forsale.computers:37047
From: bowman@reed.edu (Eric Bowman (bobo))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: Broken PB170 Display
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:03:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Oct15.210303.5707
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

Horror of horrors, I took my PB out of my backpack to discover a nice spider-
web shattering of the display.

$1588.00 to fix it.

Since the damn machine is only about half paid for, I'm not really able to
sink this much money into it.  So:

Does anyone know of a cheaper way to get it running again?  Could I have a LCD
screen put on?  Is anyone making 3rd party screens that are cheaper?  External
display adaptors?  Any suggestions are welcome.

OR:  Does anyone want to buy said PB as is?

thanks,
bobo
bowman@reed.edu
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.hardware:18553 comp.sys.mac.misc:17513
From: cotts@nosurrender.East.Sun.COM ( Federal S.E. Washington D.C.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Macintosh XL (XLisa) Trade
Followup-To: poster
Date: 7 Oct 1992 14:04:52 -0400
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc., Vienna, VA.
Distribution: regional
NNTP-Posting-Host: nosurrender.east.sun.com
Keywords: XL Lisa

TRADE! TRADE! TRADE! TRADE! TRADE! TRADE!

Macintosh XL <-> Macintosh Plus harddrive (> 30MB)

Be the envy of your neighborhood.  Own a part of the past.  The Apple
Lisa box, circa 1985 (imitating a Machintosh Plus in software, cool).
Larger screen, more weight for you buck (this ain't no sissy portable),
runs most Macintosh Plus software (watch out for those nasty sound
programs).  I have ran PageMaker, Microsoft Word, and Quicken (and most
standard Macintosh and public domain stuff).  Would make a great print
server, learning machine or paper weight.

Macintosh XL  (X-Lisa Box)
        1  MB memory
        10 MB hard drive
        400k, 3 1/2 internal floppy
        2 RS232 (printer,modem)
        Motorola 68000
        running:
        Macworks Plus, 6.0.3 (from Sun Remarketing, Ogden Utah)
                6.x System \
                5.x Finder  -- (I think)

        Full open architecture still being maintained by companies like
                Sun Remarketing and DaFax (faster/larger hard drives, scsi,
                upgradable floppy, memory and accelerator options).  Also
                available from Sun Remarketing is screen fix to change
                the aspect ration of the display ($79 last I checked).
                The rectangle pixels of the XL elongate all displayed
                output (you get use to it).  For the right kind of money
		you can make this thing look like a Macintosh II (but
		it may be cheaper to just by a II).

Will trade for a WORKING, ready to run, greater than 30MB Macintosh
Plus SCSI HD with interface cable (prefer under unit model).  Even swap --
no mo' money ;-).  Shipping this thing is out of the question so party
must be in driving distance from Washington DC area (in the Virginia,
Pennsylvania, Maryland area).  Will meet halfway for longer distances
(100 mile max).

Chuck Otts
Clifton, VA 22024

Email:  chuck.otts@east.sun.com
Tele:   (703) 204.4221

[If this message posts outside our region, please excuse; not sure if
 our 'distributions' is set correctly].

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.wanted
From: dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu (David Manning)
Subject: 40 MB internal drive, NTX board for sale.
Summary: Read the book yourself!
Keywords: mac stuff
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 19:05:19 GMT

I still have a couple of things I'd like to sell off (in order to pay some  
bills and think about buying a new car :-).

	40 MB internal Apple/Quantum SCSI drive, brand new -- was
	a replacement for a sticky Sony 40 by Apple. $150 obo.

	NTX controller board. Got a Laserwriter IINT or SC that you'd	
	like to upgrade, but don't have the $1700 or so needed to go to 
	a IIf or IIg? It's got two megs on board, but I could probably
	boost that to at least four, if not eight. $450 obo   

Reply via e-mail

Dave

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: wlmg1@fel.tno.nl (W.L.M.Touw)
Subject: Quantum 105Mb (used in PC) on a Mac
Summary: How do I format my Quantum SCSI HD (used in PC) on my Mac
Keywords: SCSI Quantum Mac
Organization: TNO Physics and Electronics Laboratory
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 11:55:58 GMT

I'm trying to use a Quantum 105Mb SCSI internal hardrive on a Mac as a
replacement for a sony 40Mb internal.

The drive used to work in a PC but I can't seem to access it on 
the Mac. I can "see" it by using scsi utils but the option mount 
doesn't do a thing. 

I set it up for SCSI ID 0 (the scsi utils confirm this and show the Mac
as ID 7) and have terminators installed. Is there a special formatting
util I must use or am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,

Wim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: mstov@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (michael.p.stovsky)
Subject: Need instructions for PB170 RAM upgrade...
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 20:26:11 GMT

Hi!

Can someone please send me (or direct me to) instructions for upgrading a 
PB 170 from 4 to 8 MB of RAM?  Thanks for your help!


Please note my e-mail address is not the same as the return address for this
posting!

	Mike
	mps@cbvox.att.com


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: cs108069@pandora.sdsu.edu (DeRose)
Subject: Re: 20 MBytes o' RAM
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:17:27 GMT

I don't know if Apple fixed the problem with the System 7 tuneup, but
in the original System 7.0 manual's compatability section, it listed
their 8*24GC as not fully compatible.  You might want to ask your dealer
or e-mail Apple directly.  Good luck.  :-)
From: alan@metasoft.UUCP (Alan Epstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: DataStream Tape Unit
Keywords: DataStream tape backup
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:49:01 GMT
Organization: Meta Software Corporation, Cambridge MA

rotherme@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Pete Rothermel) writes:

>I've inheritted a backup tape unit without
>a cable. It called a DataStream and its made
>by SuperMac technologies. 
>Is this unit worth anything?
>Does anybody know anything about the DataStream
>or SuperMac?

The unit is pretty old. We still have one in service which refuses
to quit after about 5 years. Never had servicing either.

The backup program Retrospect works nicely with it, containing all
necessary drivers for Sys 6 & 7.

The drawbacks are that it is slow and has a low capacity (ours is
36MB).

The cabling is standard Mac SCSI.

-alan

-----------------------------
Alan Epstein
Meta Software Corp		 Internet:  alan@metasoft.com
125 Cambridgepark Dr
Cambridge, MA 02140  USA	      
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From: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Woz in apple ad?
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 00:29:19 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.18 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith) writes:

ESS> I was questioning the statement of the previous article, that 
ESS> Woz "still is one of the best engineers of all time". What 
ESS> are the facts to support that statement?

I'll let the engineers answer that specific question, but let me put one to
you:  is Albert Einstein one of the best theoretical physicists of all time?

You get the idea.  "Greatest of all time" has nothing to do with what the
person in question is doing _now_.  Sure, you know great engineers currently
laboring in obscurity.  But your original post as much as said, "he can't be
very good--because what's he done lately?"  That's completely non sequitur to
the idea of Woz being one of the greatest engineers of all time.  Otherwise,
holding to your original statement, Einstein is just another has-been.

--Adam--
 
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From: Ladd.Morse@p804.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ladd Morse)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Powerbook Caps Lock
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 11:45:25 -0500

  CH> I'm forever hitting the caps lock key on my Powerbook 140. Does anyone
  CH> know of a good way of disabling it?

I can't specifically help, but I have read of a small utility ( don't recall if
it was commercially packaged or shareware) that disables the caps lock key.
 
Keep looking - it's out there somewhere!
From: wyattw@loowit.wr.tek.com (Wyatt Webb;6291592;92-835)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: mac EPROM burner
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:47:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: loowit.WYATTW.92Oct8134735
Organization: Tektronix - Instrument Controllers and Software
In-reply-to: jh61+@andrew.cmu.edu's message of 7 Oct 92 21:41:15 GMT

In article <geowbvO00WBKI9_W8M@andrew.cmu.edu> jh61+@andrew.cmu.edu (John C. Henderson) writes:

   Howdy,

   Has anyone out there ever used an EPROM burner that interfaced with a Mac?
   (That is, apart from any serious serial-port hacks.)  If so, I would be
   very interested in learning how it performed, who manufactured it, how it was
   purchased (i.e. mail order, electronics store, etc.), and how much it cost.

   Thanks in advance,

   -John



Please post this info as I am interested as well...

Thanks!

	-Wyatt
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From: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Woz in apple ad?
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 20:37:40 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.18 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

PEter Cohen writes:

PC> : of dollars. If he "still is" one of the best computer engineers 
PC> of "all : time", what has he engineered lately?
PC>  
PC> You sound like someone who's spent a great deal of time in 
PC> an educational environment. While "Publish or Perish" may 
PC> be necessary for college professors, it's hardly necessary 
PC> for people who have made their money, are happy to let others 
PC> continue breaking ground where they've pioneered. I admit, 
PC> this attitude can be construed as slightly mercenary, and 
PC> is probably totally inaccurate of what Mr. Wozniak's actual 
PC> intentions are, but who are you to question his goals, anyway? 
PC> He might just be happy to stay at home and play D&D...I know 
PC> that if I'd been as lucky/wealthy as he was, that's exactly 
PC> what I'd be doing. 

I guess he's very happy to stay at home and be a father to his kids.  You're
right, if I was as lucky/wealth as Woz....

And, of course, what makes Mozart so great?  G. Washington/T. Jefferson?  Geez
 what have these people done lately?

--Adam--
 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Stylewriter Stops shipping..?
From: hagberg@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (HAGBERG JR, D. J.)
Date: 11 Oct 1992 14:18 MST  
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <11OCT199201592102@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu>, mwelch@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (Michael W.) writes...
> 
>Excuse me,
> 
>  I heard from a friend that there have been serious
>problems with the Stylewriter by Apple. I have heard
>that because of this, Apple has stopped shipping them
>for two months until they can get the problems fixed.
>Is this so...? I was planning on buying one, so it 
>would be a nice thing to know.

The only serious problem is that they can't get enough of the printer 
engines from Canon (the folks who make the mechanical parts of the SW).
Thus they have eliminate the SW from educational price lists.  I believe
you can still get them from your Apple dealer, or from one of the new 
outlets where they sell Performas...  There are more details in a recent 
issue of TidBits-- the source of all great knowledge :-)


			-=- D. J. Hagberg
			-=- hagberg@ccit.arizona.edu
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PDA's are flop
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:31:27 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

bredell@tdb.uu.se (Mats Bredell) writes:

>The computing power of the Newton is supposed to be twice the power of a
>Quadra 900, with a nice operating system with built-in object oriented
>databse manager and complete mutitasking with preemption.

    While the Newton will have a RISC chip, claiming that it is twice
the power of the Q900 is a bit excessive I think. It will certainly be
many time more efficient than the 68000, but when comparing it to the
'040 I wouldn't be so sure.

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
   "You know Television has gone to hell when, with every commercial,
	 you find yourself hoping to see the Energizer Bunny."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.unix.aux
From: weigert@etlhit.etl.go.jp (Thomas Weigert)
Subject: Re: Which 3-button mouse to buy - Mouseman or A3 mouse?
Reply-To: weigert@mcs.anl.gov
Organization: Electrotechnical Laboratory, Tsukuba-shi, Japan
	<Bw0pps.E0A@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 06:47:48 GMT


In article <Bw0pps.E0A@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
	jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay) writes:

JM> Buy the mouseman--outstanding.

I personally like the Gravis SuperMouse quite a lot.

Th.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: dali@carson.u.washington.edu (David A. Lee)
Subject: Re: Performa Plus Display
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 19:36:49 GMT

The Apple 13"RGB Hi-Res monitor has a Sony Trinitron tube that
has a .25 dot pitch, not .28.  All trinitron monitors have .25,
not .28 dot pitches.  The .29 dot pitch of the Performa Plus
display is a far cry from the .25 offered by a trinitron.  The
Performa Plus is supposed to retail at $450, probably more like
$389 at discount houses.  I can get a Apple 13" for $549.  Worth
the extra cash I say.

David
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PDA's are flop
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:28:12 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

hankin@sauron.osf.org (Scott Hankin) writes:

>    Actually, the 2XQuadra 900 figure comes from Apple's own mouth.  FYI.

    Yes, I am aware of that (I think I read that in MacWEEK), but are
there any indications of what that means? How does one classify 2x
power? Are we to assume that the RISC chip in the Newton will run at
50MHz? 

    What I was trying to say is, although the RISC chip that will
control the Newton will be a very powerful little chip, I really don't
expect it will have twice the computing power of the 25MHz '040. Now if
you want to talk about the second generation Newton (can we say PowerPC,
boys and girls? I knew you could).

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
   "You know Television has gone to hell when, with every commercial,
	 you find yourself hoping to see the Energizer Bunny."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: asarti@bellini.berkeley.edu (Augusto Sarti)
Subject: is there a fax option for Personal Laser Writer NT?
Keywords: fax
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:51:14 GMT

Subject says all. I read other ads about people asking about fax options
for NEC Printers, and I was wandering...

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: wlarkin@hounix.org (Ward Larkin)
Subject: Re: Mac NTSC Output?
Organization: Houston UNIX Users Group (HOUNIX), Houston, TX
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:23:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.151636.14102@alw.nih.gov> mvivino@helix.nih.gov (Mark A Vivino) writes:
>In article <Bvz9rL.DCJ@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, deitrich@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Dave Deitrich) writes:
>> Could someone give me a run down on available hardware for converting and 
>> outputting standard Mac video signals to NTSC format?  I've seen it done so
>> I know it's possible, but I'm not really sure what you need to do it.  
>> I've got a standard no-thrills Mac IIci if that helps any.  If you have any
>> info on prices that would be wonderful too.  Thanks much in advance!
>
>I've been fooling with this myself, and have learned a few things the hard way.
>
>First do NOT, I say do NOT, buy the RasterOps video expander. 
>This puts out shaky terrible horrible quality NTSC and S.
>
How does "terrible horrible" compare to just "terrible" or just
"horrible" -- twice as bad, four times, 10 times?

The major problem associated with converting standard analog RGB
Macintosh video to composite or S-Video in NTSC is going from a
non-interlaced signal to an interlaced signal.

Single straight lines on the Mac, which appear clear and solid on
the Mac, flicker and bounce on a TV set.  Mac video has a faster
refresh rate and the whole screen is refreshed in 1 frame, where the
TV signal is divided up into two half frames -- the odd numbered
lines are refreshed then the even numbered lines.

>Second, the output of the built in quadra and other mac video isn't 
>any better if you have the right cable.
>
Again this is because there is no compensation associated with
going from a non-interlaced signal to an interlaced signal.

>Third, TrueVision has something that is expensive and not very good.
>
This is 100% bogus.  Truevision is the leader in computer-based
desktop video production.

>Forth and possiblely the only working solution is Radius VideoVision. 
>You can get an auto FAX on this product by calling 1-800-966-7360, 
>enter product 0355 when asked. I haven't tested it but the literature 
>says it is flicker free unlike all the competition. If this is true
>than they are ahead of all the competition.
>
The flicker free results are made because there is a compensation
for the non-interlaced to interlaced conversion.  Single lines are
converted to double lines.

And there are other ( and better ) products on the market that do
this.  VideoLogic makes a product called the Mediator, which is a
stand alone box that in addition to handling analog RGB from a MAC
and simultaneously handle VGA from a PC.


>Mark
>mvivino@helix.nih.gov
>


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: Radius DirectColor/GX
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:55:42 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Oct7.070401.2659@netcom.com> jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry Scoggins) writes:

>The DirectColor/GX *will* work with the IIsi provided you have the NuBus
>adapter.  This information is from the latest Radius documentation.

Hm.  What the sales droid told me was that the DirectColor/GX would
not work on a IIsi with a Nubus adapter.  He was reading this from
an online product description and perhaps misread "without" as "with."
Or maybe someone mistyped it into the system that way.

I assumed, when he told me that, that the problem was the old IIsi
power limitation thing.
From: twu@athena.mit.edu (Ting-Hsuan Wu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: SuperMac 17" Trinitron Monitor (Q)
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:34:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Oct8.223441.359
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Hi, does anyone have any information regarding the new SuperMac 17" Trinitron
monitor?  The release date in particular?  A SuperMac tech support person told
me that the monitors had been shipping for two weeks when I called last week. 
However, the few dealers that I've then called up had not heard anything about
them.  The second time I called SuperMac they told me that a date had not been
set yet.  It seems to be a really nice monitor, and I would like to get my hands
on one as soon as possible.  So if anyone has any info or heard any rumors,
please help. 

                                             Ting-Hsuan Wu, 10-08-92

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: edcrwfrd@unlv.edu (Edward Crawford)
Subject: Re: Let's talk Performas, Boys and Girls
Organization: UNLV
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 16:26:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.102808.3600@spdcc.com> pentangl@spdcc.com (Scott Moir) writes:
>MacUser states in its review of the Performa series that they are 16 bit 
>machines. Proof enough?
>
The Performa 200 and 400 obviosuly only have a 16 bit data path, but
that doesnt neccassarily mean that ALL perfromas will have only a
16bit bus.
From: ibhan@husc8.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Info on Powerbook 160 & 180
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:29:07 GMT

Eric.Choi@p5.f57.n7000.z8.ieee.org (Eric Choi) writes:

>Please share any info you may have on these two models. Are they the same as
>the Duo they keep hyping about or separate models?

>Thanks in advance.
>--  
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> Eric Choi - Internet: Eric.Choi@p5.f57.n7000.z8.ieee.org

They are different.  The 160 and 180 are basically upgraded versions of
the 145 and 170.

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