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Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 92 18:27:55 CST
From:         Bill Harvey <HARVEY@WUVMD.Wustl.Edu>
Subject:      Re: Banner Pages with LPRSERV
Newsgroups:   bit.listserv.ibmtcp-l

Someone said:
>>Has anyone encountered [the VM LPR banner] problem before and have
>>they solved it?
Then,
On Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:30:57 CDT, Rick Troth <TROTH@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU> said:
>        I solved it by writing a  (from scratch)  LPD server.
>It uses RXSOCKET and  (some)  Pipes.   You're welcome to it.
<...>

So what do you do if the LPR client userid is not a valid VM userid?  How
do you get the invalid VM userid into the banner?

>>                                                        (I know the
>>information is available on the IBM -- the LPR RFC says so!)
>        The RFC is an after-the-fact effort to document what LPR does.
>LPR was written as an extension of the UNIX print spooler.   It does
>*not* want to be forced onto VM,  so we must beat it into submission.

Heh, heh!!  I know the feeling!
Bill
>Rick Troth <TROTH@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>, Rice University, I/S VM Systems Support
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:45:20 EDT
Comments:     Converted from PROFS to RFC822 format by PUMP V2.2
From:         Ray Mrohs <IRMIS971@SIVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Fullscreen FTP

From: Ray Mrohs
      Systems Programmer
      Smithsonian Institution

What's the best (easiest) way to invoke fullscreen CMS while in an FTP
session?  The command CMS SET FULLSCREEN ON works, but the command is
too wordy for general users.  It must also be invoked after the remote
login procedure is completed, when FTP expects command input.
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:15:46 EST
From:         "Stephen B. Kutzer" <COTRCSBK@SEA04VM.NAVSEA.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      netstat abends under cp/cms slu 530 ?
X-To:         ibmtcp-l@pucc.princeton.edu

Since upgrading our CP/CMS service levels to slu 530, tcpip's
NETSTAT INTERVAL 2 command fails with the following message:

AMPX078E Target string filled to maximum length in WRITESTR call
      TRACE BACK OF CALLED ROUTINES
 ROUTINE                          STMT AT ADDRESS IN MODULE
 GETTIME                             5    000213B0   NETSTAT
 SCREENCBPRINT                      57    00026398   NETSCRN
 DOVISUAL                            4    00026B40   NETSCRN
 <MAIN-PROGRAM>                     16    00025232   NETSTAT
 VSPASCAL                                 0002B652

This occurs under both v1 and v2 of FAL.  From both a local terminal and
a VTAM-owned terminal.  I'll look at IBMLink and call the support
center, but thought I'd ask here also.


Stephen B. Kutzer  703-769-2900
I-NET, Inc.        cotrcsbk@sea04vm.navsea.navy.mil
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 10:05:25 EDT
From:         Bill Rubin <rubinm@WATSON.IBM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Banner Pages with LPRSERV
X-To:         IBMTCP-L@pucc.Princeton.EDU

Bill Harvey <HARVEY@WUVMD.WUSTL.EDU> writes:

> Can the exit set the MVS jobname field for the SYSOUT?  Or is that
> something constant?

No, unfortunately MVS is not at all flexible in what it prints on its
separator pages.  For this reason, the MVS version of LPD ships an
LPBANNER exit which can be used to generate banner pages which contain all
the appropriate information for the file.  It is printed IN ADDITION TO
the normal MVS separator page.

It's our intention to ship this code in the next VM release, as well.

Shameless plug time:  Be sure to attend session C810 TCP/IP Update, Monday
at 3pm, C809 TCP/IP Free for All, Thursday at 4:30pm (and 6:00pm???), and
the other fine TCP/IP sessions at next week's Share in Atlanta.

Bill Rubin
IBM TJ Watson Research
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 11:57:32 EDT
From:         "Brian Holmes, WSU/C&IT" <BHOLMES@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
Subject:      5735-FAL FTPSERVE and ACF2

I obtained the FTPSERVE mods from ACF2 for V2.2, but they
only validate up to the LINK level and not FILE level.
Has anyone addressed this problem?  Thanks in advance!

PHONE:    (313) 577-3750  FAX=577-5626          Wayne State University
BITNET:   bholmes@waynest1.bitnet               5925 Woodward
INTERNET: bholmes@cms.cc.wayne.edu              Detroit, MI 48202  U.S.A
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From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell)
Subject: Re: NNTP / Port usage problem ?
Organization: Youngstown State University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:37:29 GMT

HOLTZMAN@SJUVM.BITNET ("Michael S. Holtzman") writes:
: Greetings. I just installed NetNews on VM (NetNews from PSUVM, NNTPRCVR
: from QUCDN, and NNTPXMIT from BLEKUL11 -- thanx one and all).  NNTPRCVR
: and NNTPXMT both run on port 119.  If both reserve port 119 in PROFILE TCPIP
: will it cause problems??  One of these service machines (NNTPXMIT) keeps
: getting FORCEd and then AUTOLOGged by TCP/IP -- sometimes it claims "Fatal
: comm error VMCF rc 5" and sometimes "No passive open on 119".

I have run this setup in the past (we now use a Unix server and NNR,
but that's another story).

NNTPRCVR issues a listen (passive open) for port 119.  It's pretty stable,
so unless the NNTPRCVR program quits it should continue to listen there.

NNTPXMIT issues an active open for port 119 on the remote system, so there's
no conflict.  NNTPXMIT needs only be autologged periodically when there are
files to transmit in the reader.  Depending on how important it is to get
local postings out to the rest of the net, this could be hourly, daily, 
etc.
: 
: I could use some helpful hints if you are running this set up.
: 
I *strongly* suggest that if you're not on it, you get on the NETNWS-L@
NDSUVM1 mailing list (aka bit.listserv.netnws-l).  That's where the
PSU NetNews software and support code are discussed, bugs are announced
and fixed, etc.

--
Doug Sewell, Tech Support, Computer Center, Youngstown State University
doug@cc.ysu.edu	   doug@ysub.bitnet	<internet>!cc.ysu.edu!doug
"Recession: your friend loses his job.  Depression: you lose your job.
Recovery: Bush loses his job" - Bill Davidsen
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 10:11:40 CDT
From:         Rick Troth <TROTH@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Banner Pages with LPRSERV

>So what do you do if the LPR client userid is not a valid VM userid?
>How do you get the invalid VM userid into the banner?

        That's the  "hack"  part.   We have a tool with which our
VM users can  "register"  their  username/hostname  on foreign hosts.
It's wrapped-up into the rest of the printing mess,  er uh,  "service"
here at Rice.   So they have to have a VM account to which to bill,
and then login and:

                SETPRINT  ACCEPT  remote_user  AT  remote_host

        We actually do use  DEST,  DIST,  FORM,  and CLASS,  so those
are not available.   But with the remote user pinned to a local user,
they can  print and purge  *their own files*  remotely.   Query works too.

        This helps,  because we are challenged to make VM services
as palatable as possible to non-CMS users on campus.

Rick Troth <TROTH@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>, Rice University, I/S VM Systems Support
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 08:07:12 EDT
From: Peter M. Weiss <PMW1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibmtcp-l
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 Listserv

In article <IBMTCP-L%92081118471512@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU>, Melvin Klassen
<KLASSEN@UVVM.BITNET> says:

>On Tue, 11 Aug 1992 18:07:34 EDT, Hobie Audet <AUDET@NBSMICF> cross-posted
>to CMSUG-L@UTARLVM1, VMTOOL-L@UIUCVMD, VM-UTIL@OHSTVMA, PROFS-L@MARIST,
>and to IBMTCP-L@PUCC:
>>Does anyone out there know of a Bitnet LISTSERV for OS/2 Version 2?
>From LISTSERV's "list-of-global-lists":
>      OS2@BLEKUL11      Moderated discussion forum on OS/2

The filelist is not only composed of the archived discussions, but
also many program files.  The filelist itself is about 1k long.

To fetch it, issue a TELL LISTSERV AT BLEKUL11 IND OS2
or Internet RFC822 mail to listserv@CC1.KULEUVEN.AC.BE with
body of text:

     IND OS2

/Pete
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31 Shields Bldg -- Penn State Univ.| "Connectivity is more than a Connection"
University Park, PA USA 16802-1202 | E. Michael Staman, _The Circuit_, Apr 92
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:30:57 CDT
From:         Rick Troth <TROTH@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Banner Pages with LPRSERV
              11 Aug 1992 21:35:46 EST from <ray@PICASSO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU>

>      We have the LPSERVE virtual machine up and running, and can print
>from any UNIX machine (and PC) on campus to our big Xerox 4050 printer.

        Same here.   4050 r wun-der-ful.

>Our problem lies in the processing of the banner page.  Currently it
>prints out SYSTEMS as the distribution code and LPSERVE as the userid
>requesting the output.  What we would like it to print is the userid
>(login id) of the person on the Unix system who is requesting the
>print job.

        Well,  yeah,  that *would* be nice.   ;-)

>This is a problem for us since we still have a central site bin area
>where people who print things can come and pick them up when they can.
>Currently these bins are numbered, but we are changing them to be
>"lettered" A-Z so that we can sort the output by userid.

        Same here.

>Has anyone encountered this problem before and have they solved it?

        I solved it by writing a  (from scratch)  LPD server.
It uses RXSOCKET and  (some)  Pipes.   You're welcome to it.
Got a BITNET address?   I'll send it.   (no warranties,  etc)
I'd  SENDFILE  it via IP,  but I doubt you're ready for that.   ;-)

>                                                        (I know the
>information is available on the IBM -- the LPR RFC says so!)

        The RFC is an after-the-fact effort to document what LPR does.
LPR was written as an extension of the UNIX print spooler.   It does
*not* want to be forced onto VM,  so we must beat it into submission.

Rick Troth <TROTH@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>, Rice University, I/S VM Systems Support
From: kek@bullterrier.Eng.Sun.COM (Kevin Kalajan - SunConnect Product Marketing)
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Subject: TN3270 ATTN Key
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:11:05 GMT
Reply-To: kek@bullterrier.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: bullterrier

I understand with IBM TCP V2.2 that the ATTN key is 
supported bewteen the TN Server (IBM TCP/IP) and the TN
client. The question is, how does the client indicate to the
server (in the protocol) that the ATTN key is sent?

Thx for pointers or RTFM's.

-KK
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:43:36 BST
From:         "SY07 at GWIA Alan J.Flavell" <SY07@I1.PH.GLA.AC.UK>
Subject:      Musing on RouteD
X-To:         IBMTCP-L@pucc.princeton.edu

I've been thinking over whether I want to run RouteD, at least
on a full time basis.  Any opinions welcomed.

Our local network (of which I am a user, not an administrator)
mostly uses RIP, although there are a few cases where no RIP
data is generated and access to the target host needs a static
route configured.  But that does not necessarily mean that we
HAVE to run RouteD...

With FAL V1, we obviously had to use static entries (in the PROFILE
TCPIP file).  With V2 we seem to have the option.  I've been running
RouteD for a while, and I note that RouteD + TCPIP consumes about
5% CPU (on one processor of a 4381-14) when it's otherwise idle, so
presumably this is the cost of interpreting the incoming RIP packets
(I only drive one interface and I use -q, so there are no outgoing
packets to be generated).

The other thing that worried me about RouteD is that it has once
(within the few weeks it's been running) written a truly awesome
number of lines in its console log as a result of a defective
error report, and when I mentioned that on the list I got a reply
saying yes, it does that sometimes!  If the system had been
unattended at the time, it would have crashed.

On the other hand... from our local network there are three potential
routes to the outside world (with different data rates).  Obviously
the one with the highest data rate is normally advertised as the
default route (and would be configured as such if static routing is
used).  But if this router fails, one of the other routes can then
be RIP-advertised as default route; but FAL's static routing does
not seem to be able to use a fallback default route, so if I use
static routing then in such a situation I lose contact with the
outside world.  With RouteD on the other hand it would adapt.
Fortunately the situation does not happen often, otherwise we'd have
had a lot of trouble with FAL V1.

Now I have two related questions.

1. If I let RouteD be started up, and after a while I force it off,
then later (X)AUTOLOG it again, it refuses to work, with a whole
string of the error message:

  rtadd ioctl SIOCADDRT: File exists (EEXIST)

until I finally kill it.  Is there some way to run RouteD for a while,
shut it down, and later start it up again, without having to restart
TCPIP?  (P.s I got this idea because one of our workstation systems
seems to run this way by default).

2. The display from NETSTAT GATE is almost in the form required as
input in the file TCPIP DATA.  I can't help thinking that if we decide
to run with static tables, it would still be useful to start up
RouteD, let it run for a while, and then process the output from
NETSTAT GATE to create our TCPIP DATA file.  Seems a "natural" for CMS
PIPELINES.  Anyone done this already?
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:18:26 EST
From:         "Cromer, Dan" <19016007%SBAC@NERVM.NERDC.UFL.EDU>
Subject:      Need a working RS/6000 sendmail.cf

For some reason I can't get my RS/6000 sendmail.cf file to work
correctly, though it works O.K. if I use a DI record to route
to another name server.  If you have a working RS/6000 (AIX 3.1.6)
sendmail.cf please send a copy to danc@dynix.sbac.edu or otherwise
contact me so I can get a copy.  Any assistance would be greatly
appreciated!
Dan
--
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School Board of Alachua County, Gainesville, Florida
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:08:28 EST
From:         "Stephen B. Kutzer" <COTRCSBK@SEA04VM.NAVSEA.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      WAIS for VM??
X-To:         ibmtcp-l@pucc.princeton.edu

Does anyone know of a WAIS client or server for VM?


Stephen B. Kutzer  703-769-2900
I-NET, Inc.        cotrcsbk@sea04vm.navsea.navy.mil
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 12:03:11 EDT
From:         Leonard Boyle <LENBOYLE@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Banner Pages with LPRSERV
              14 Aug 1992 10:05:25 EDT from <rubinm@WATSON.IBM.COM>

On Fri, 14 Aug 1992 10:05:25 EDT Bill Rubin said:
>Bill Harvey <HARVEY@WUVMD.WUSTL.EDU> writes:
>
>> Can the exit set the MVS jobname field for the SYSOUT?  Or is that
>> something constant?
>
>No, unfortunately MVS is not at all flexible in what it prints on its
>separator pages.  For this reason, the MVS version of LPD ships an
>LPBANNER exit which can be used to generate banner pages which contain all
>the appropriate information for the file.  It is printed IN ADDITION TO
>the normal MVS separator page.
>

But can not the local site code an Separator page exit?

>
>It's our intention to ship this code in the next VM release, as well.
>
>Shameless plug time:  Be sure to attend session C810 TCP/IP Update, Monday
>at 3pm, C809 TCP/IP Free for All, Thursday at 4:30pm (and 6:00pm???), and
>the other fine TCP/IP sessions at next week's Share in Atlanta.
>
>Bill Rubin
>IBM TJ Watson Research

Bill

There are many of us that will not be going to Share. Would it be
possible to post some of the highlights to this forum?

                               Thanks Len Boyle
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 11:43:21 EDT
From:         Trevor C Poole <A000@FERRIS.BITNET>
Subject:      Bus-Tech price

Hello,
We have now settled on the Bus-Tech token ring channel adapter
box to connect our Internet link to the mainframe.
A local middle-man is quoting us $9,495 including educational
discount.
I seem to remember someone telling me on this list that the price was
now down to around $7,000. Like a bozo I lost the posting.
Would the person concerned please let me(us) know what the score
is and where I can order the box at the "new" price ?
Thanks
Trev
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:23:00 GMT
From:         "Robert G. Moskowitz" <0003858921@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Time Server?
X-To:         IBM TCPIP List <IBMTCP-L@pucc.princeton.edu>

Does MVS/TCP have a Time Server?  And in which version (we are running 2.1 now
and waiting for the Nul RU fix for 2.2 before we can install it).

It would be real helpful to sync all of our clocks off the big box in the big
room...
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:26:00 PDT
From:         Leonard D Woren <LDW@USCMVSA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Banner Pages with LPRSERV

On Fri, 14 Aug 1992 10:05:25 EDT,
   Bill Rubin <rubinm@WATSON.IBM.COM> said:
> Bill Harvey <HARVEY@WUVMD.WUSTL.EDU> writes:
>
> > Can the exit set the MVS jobname field for the SYSOUT?  Or is that
> > something constant?
>
> No, unfortunately MVS is not at all flexible in what it prints on its
> separator pages.

I (intentionally) know nothing about JES3, but JES2 exit can be
installed to print anything the installation wants on the banner page.
The problem is more in that a normal MVS application doesn't have
total control over what information is attached to the print job.
This is why LPSERVE should be changed (at least at the installation's
option, because it may not work under JES3) to talk to JES2 via
APPL-APPL SNA NJE.  Then LPSERVE could put anything it wants in the
NJE headers to control what gets printed on the banner page.

> For this reason, the MVS version of LPD ships an
> LPBANNER exit which can be used to generate banner pages which contain all
> the appropriate information for the file.  It is printed IN ADDITION TO
> the normal MVS separator page.

Interesting idea:  The installation-written JES2 exit 1 could suppress
the normal banner pages if the jobname is LPSERVE, thus avoiding
double banner pages!  I have code in JES2 exit 1 to control the Xerox
4090 (printing the banner pages on colored paper, among other things),
so I'd have to put some of that same code in LPBANNER, but it all
seems feasible, and not terribly convoluted.  I'd still prefer that
LPSERVE use the NJE solution, though.


/Leonard
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 10:28:53 PDT
From:         "Mike Friedman (510) 642-1410" <SPGMNF@UCBCMSA.BITNET>
Subject:      3172 Log Facility

I got several replies, including two from IBM'ers, confirming that I can
run the 'CE' function while the 3172 is in operation.  This is good to
know.  As you can well imagine, it's not the sort of thing I want to find
out about by trial and error!

Thanks.
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:33:33 EST
From:         "Cromer, Dan" <19016007%SBAC@NERVM.NERDC.UFL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Network News Reader
              13 Aug 1992 17:12:45 BST from <SY07@I1.PH.GLA.AC.UK>

Has anyone successfully revised and compiled the IBM TCP/IP version
of RN (in the TCPIP/SAMPLES/RN subdirectory) using CSET/2 so that
it works without many "Article too long..." messages?
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:39:32 CST
From:         "Juan M. Courcoul" <COURCOUL@VMTECQRO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Escape characters

>We are running TN3270 to connect our users and are using version 2.2D.
>On the PROFS (2.3.2) calander screen (W01) when the user presses PF9
>to get into help, the PC tries to go into Techtronics graphics mode,
>... arg ... the garbage fills the screen and we can get out of it by
>hitting enter twice. Does any one know if version 2.2E fixes this problem?

As I understand it, key assignations are the domain of the terminal
emulator; the application you are running on your account has no
business in that matter.

Perhaps you need to review the 3270 key mappings being done by TN3270.
These are kept in the file pointed to by the "map3270" keyword in your
CONFIG.TEL file.

We have been using TN3270 2.2E and have had no errant switching of
screen modes anytime. The keyboard F9 key is, indeed, the 3270 PF9
function. Also, we are not using the default keymapping: our users were
already accustomed to that implemented in Novell's WSLAN SNA terminal
emulator, so I whipped up another keymap file which closely emulates
this. I could, of course, have assigned PF9 for switching into Tek mode
(which would have caused untold mystification of our users).

Hope this helps.

JMC

P.S. As an afterthought, I hope we are all talking of the same thing:
     Clarkson's CUTCP/CUTE terminal emulator, release 2.2 TC/TN-E...  ;)
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:13:45 EDT
From:         Leonard Boyle <LENBOYLE@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU>
Subject:      re: WDSF or DFSM

Does anyone have any information on DFDSM (IBM Data Facility Distributed
Storage Manager -- Product 5684-020).

In Ann number 292-259 there is the line "DFDSM is the successor product
of IBM Workstation Data Save Facility/VM (WDSF-VM 5684-122) and
supports existing WDSF/VM end user clients."

Am I correct in assuming that this means that WDSF is a capped product?
Is DFDSN based on WDSF  or a total rewrite?
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From: wells@coos.dartmouth.edu (Suzanne M. Wells)
Subject: Re: Help:telnet IBM ==>Vax
Keywords: vax
Organization: Dartmouth Medical School, Surgical Labs Department
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:06:56 GMT

try to ctrl - y out of telnet.

wells@coos.dartmouth.edu
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