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From: pfaffman@pilot.njin.net (Jay Pfaffman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: autodection woes (.99.1), updating binaries, config suggestion
Keywords: 99.1, autodetection, floppy
Date: 30 Dec 92 19:27:34 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I've been trying to update to .99.1, lilo 0.7 and generally catch up
with various improvements made over time.  Here are some problems:

I still seem to be having problems with the autodetection of floppy
types.  "mount /dev/fd0 /user" fails, but using fd0H1440 works fine.
Am I alone?  Shouldn't it work?

When a new kernel source arrives, it shouldn't have tools/version.h so
that idiots like me don't wonder why their new kernel claims to be
compiled somewhere else.  :-)

I like the new config stuff.  I'm not opposed to editing Makefiles by
hand, but it was never clear (without actually *reading* something)
what to do to get stuff I don't want out ot the kernel. It would be
nice if it either set the keyboard or reminded people to do so.
(Idiots abound).

I'm trying to rid my system of old binaries.  Is there a way that I
can check to see what library an executable needs?  Is there a magic
entry to make file tell me?  "Impure executable or object" isn't very
helpful to me.

Has someone compiled Kermit to use the same lock files as uucp &
uugetty? Not a difficult job, but it would be nice if the kermit in
SLS used the same lock files.

Lilo is great, much nicer than shoelace.  I like being able to choose
from several kernels at boot-up.  The documentation is complete to a
fault.  I think that a page or two could describe most of what one
needs to know.  Perhaps I'll try to do that.

WARNING: Anyone updating binaries with SLS be careful not to let sls
kill your passwd, group, rc & fstab's.  This can be a drag.


-- 
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From: Jon.Nials@f110.n382.z1.fidonet.org (Jon Nials)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Video  Cards
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 23:14:26 -0800

My brother and I got ahold of the A-set of the SLS, 0.98pl5.  We made
the diskettes and everything, and excitedly rebooted his computer with
the a1 disk in the drive(System stats will follow).  It got to the
question about video modes and proceeded to reboot the computer.  We
tried all 4 modes that it came up with, as well as the default.  Same
results each time.  Is this a known problem?  Can anyone suggest a work
around so that we can boot the system?  N.B. I am an experienced unix
programmer, so I can probably try some pretty complex stuff.

System configuration:

    386sx-25Mhz
    3M memory
    SVGA card with 512k (SigmaVGH/H BIOS V2.68) <--Exact line from BIOS
init
    230M IDE drive.

Has anyone gotten a similar setup to work, especially a SIGMA VGA card? 
 Also,  can someone give me a list of some well-known VGA cards (or
cheap clones) that do work?  We have to buy another VGA card for another
machine, and we don't mind swapping the cards.

-Jon 
 * Origin: The Orthodox Way, Austin, TX (512)835-5121 (1:382/110)

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: fyl@ssc.com (Phil Hughes)
Subject: Re: Question and Observations
Organization: SSC, Inc.,  Seattle, WA
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:16:56 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Let me jump onto the "job well done" bandwagon.  In 1970 I worked for
Computer Sciences Corporation in a group testing their new CSTS operating
system.  For an idea of the size of the project, I would see it as similar
in size to UNIX Version 7, maybe a little larger.

There were 5 people in the integration group that installed changes to the
system and 20 in the testing group.  CSC spent over $50 million in getting
the system running.  The system was written to offer a new platform for
the timeshare services that CSC offered.  Thus, the $50 million was
development dollars, not marketing dollars.


That said, I want to say that I see Linux as an amazing cooperative effort.
If someone suggested such an effort I couldn't imagine it would work.
After all, how could someone get hundreds of people, scattered around the
world with different experience, expectations and computer systems to
cooperatively develop such a huge project?

This is happening because people are interested and electing to do what
they want.  The motivation may not all be the same (some people want to
learn, some want glory, some just want to help others, ...) but the end
goal is the same -- a system called Linux.

Peter's work on SLS is probably the easiest one to pick on.  After all, he
isn't "the inventor" and, by virtue of what he is doing, he will always be
behind.  If you want to make sure SLS works, offer to test new code before
it appears in SLS.  Or offer to maintain a piece of SLS.  It's a big job.

I don't want to dimish the efforts of others.  If Linux is to become a
stable, portable system everyone's effort counts.  If someone with little
experience helps another person with what some of us would consider a
simple bug that is one more happy Linux user and one less simple bug that
people with more experience needs to deal with.  This is how we can make
the Linux community grow.

I look forward to 1994 when Linux will be a viable alternative to most
commercial multi-user operating systems, 1996 when commercial software
vendors will port their products to Linux and 2000 when Linux will be THE
multi-user operating system.  With cooperation this could happen.

Thanks to all and Happy New Year.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: danubius@halcyon.com (Joseph R. Pannon)
Subject: Partial install of a series
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 09:57:49 GMT

I need urgent help to recover from the partial install of the series 'b'
disks.  Apparently the 6th floppy was either of marginal quality, or not
seated quite right in the drive sending sysinstall into a seemingly
infinite loop displaying some error message about not being able to read
it.  So, I had to stop it with Ctrl-C.  But then, when I wanted to
reinstall the series, it would not recognize the first (b1) disk and
kept asking for it every time I hit the Enter key.

Since the floppies are write-protected, there couldn't be anything
overwritten on them by sysinstall, so I assume the initial (partial)
install prevents the repeat.

What am I to do to resume the unfinished installation of series 'b'
floppies?

Thanks for listening despite of the Holiday! ,
Joe Pannon
From: f3b192@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Hong Yeh Ryan Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.windows.x,ubc.general
Subject: xterm and mouse problems
Date: 31 Dec 1992 19:23:20 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: gambier.rick.cs.ubc.ca


Hi, I have 2 questions about xterm and hope that somebody will help:

1.) whenever I use command line switches to fire up an xterm,
    for example: xterm -bg black -fg red -fn 10x20, I will get 
    the errors: xterm: unable to find usable termcap entries.
    WHY? I was, however, abled to set up these switches through
    .Xresources (if my termcap is not complete, then setting these
    switches in .Xresources shouldn't work too right)

2.) I am unabled to copy-and-paste text from one xterm to another.
    In school, I was abled to select text by the left button and
    paste text with the middle button. (I try this with a two buttons
    mouse as my three buttons mouse's middle button is not working)
    I am pretty sure I set up my Xconfig right:
   
    Mircosoft "/dev/ttys0"
     BaudRate 1200
     Emulate3Buttons
    ...
    ..
    I try taking the line "Emulate3Buttons" out when using 3 buttons mouse,
    but still it doesn't work..
    What have I done wrong? and how to get the 3 buttons mouse to work?

Could somebody email me a complete termcap for xterm ?
BTW, I am running Xfree1.1 on Linux, 486DX33 16M, ET4000 video card and
mircosoft compatible mouse.

I would be very grateful if someone could help me by email or the newsgroup.






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From: probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: G++:where is the c++ library? I couldn't link c++ program.
Date: 1 Jan 1993 13:13:09 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

kfisher3@mach1.wlu.ca (kevin fisher U) writes:

>Weijin Mai (ah214@yfn.ysu.edu) wrote:
>: 
>: 	I compiled the C++ program and produced an object file. The problem is
>: I couldn't link it with the appropiate c++ library. My program uses cout and
>: cin and the linker doesn't find the library for these two functions. I used
>: the -llibrary switch and tried out all the library in usr/lib without success.
>: Why can't g++/gcc determine the library it needs from header file?[D[
>: What is the library for iostream.h?

>I had this problem, and someone kindly enlightened me, so I will enlighten
>you--compile using the -static option.  All your woes will end.
>The samaritan that helped me said it was because gcc can only use the static
>libraries or something.

Actually what you should do is use the -nojump option instead. This way, the
shared libraries get linked in, and you don't have huge binaries in the end.

You have to use either -nojump or -static, because the g++ stuff hasn't
been integrated into the jump tables as of yet. But, using the -nojump is a lot better just because of size considerations.


James
From: ah200@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Randy Beiter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: A couple of tips
Date: 4 Jan 1993 00:30:47 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ah200@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Randy Beiter)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


These may be helplessly simple to most people, but neat and useful to me so
I'll share them, 

#1. Since I only have 2 meg of memory *cough* when I re-compile the kernel
*more coughing* I try to free up as much space as possible, one way I do
this is to link the make process to an unused VC and logout of everything
else, my tty5-8 are un-getty'd for a few reasons, so I can do something
like:

doshell /dev/tty7 make &
exit

or if you'd like a log of the compile, 

doshell /dev/tty7 make 2>&1 | tee make.log & (stolen from the make README,:))
exit

#2 This is nice because I'm always curious of whats going on in the system,
and get tired of typing ps-aux:

doshell /dev/tty8 top &

this sets up a nice little version of top on VC 8, which can be killed if
memory gets tight, but gives you instant view of the processes running :)
I'm also on a setterm kick, so to make it more appealing, you can:

setterm -store -bold on -f white -b blue -clear all -cursor off > /dev/tty8
doshell /dev/tty8 top &

:) Hope these are some help to someone and not just noise, bai!
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From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: EISA Bus and Linux
Date: 22 Dec 1992 20:22:48 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu


In article <1992Dec22.152057.222@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu>
sadkins@bigbird.cs.ohiou.edu (Scott W. Adkins) writes:
>
> Has anybody had experience with any EISA bus machines and installing
> Linux?

I'm running 0.99.1 on a HP Vectra 486, which has an EISA bus and an
ESDI disk, plus various HP non-standard hardware.  It works fine for
me.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds)
Subject: Re: BUG ? I can clobber root's files with `mv'
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 19:31:08 GMT

In article <1hkr37INNo2p@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon) writes:
>gdm@shrdlu.kwnet.on.ca (Giles D Malet) writes:
>
>>With the text/sticky (?) bit set on /tmp, I am unable to delete
>>other users files, quite rightly. But I have discovered a roundabout
>>way of achieving the same thing - mv one of my files onto theirs, then
>>delete it.
>
>>Now I can just delete that file...
>
>>Is this meant to be possible ?

I already replied to gdm per mail, but I might as well accnowledge the
bug publically: yes it's a linux bug, and the fix is to get the ALPHA
patches available on nic.funet.fi.  Note that the ALPHA-diffs aren't
"official" - they are meant for testing out the keyboard problems and
just happen to contain some other fixes as well (this being one of
them).  The file to look for is pub/OS/Linux/PEOPLE/Linux/ALPHA-diff.Z,
which contains patches against 0.99.1. 

The alpha diffs also allow running of binaries over NFS (and from a
msdos fs without bmap support), but it's done using the "read" vfs
function, and it doesn't allow page sharing nor demand-loading.  Not
recommended for heavy use, but it does work. 

		Linus
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: martin@scs.carleton.ca (martin chidyausiku)
Subject: ALWAYS IN200 SCSI for LINUX, HOW ??
Followup-To:  SCSI FAQ
Summary: Linux remains oblivious of the obvious existence of the controller
Keywords: 16 Bit PC/AT SCSI Host Adapter
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:23:01 GMT

Hello,

I am desperate that is why I post this. I have a 486-33, 8MB, 200MB with an
ALWAYS IN2000 controller for the floppys and the HD. When I boot SLS a1 and a2
Linux does not detect any SCSI discs and I don't know what to do. Can someone
help me or tell me how to progressively probe into the possibility of me using
this set up with Linux. I thank everyone that will respond in advance. Please
feel free to send me responses by E-mail.
I know that I am not alone with this problem since I have seen other postings
mentioning Always IN2000. I talked to the manufacturers on the phone and they
could not help me but just refer me to Xenix.

Martin.


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: kf8nh@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: SLS 0.99 + patches 1 and 2 = cold boot
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 13:27:46 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Brandon S. Allbery's Personal System

kf8nh@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes:
> I just patched my SLS 0.99 kernel sources with the 0.99.1 and 0.99.2 patches
> from tsx-11 and rebuilt the kernel.  I did make two source changes:  I
> changed MOUSE_IRQ from 5 to 9 in <linux/busmouse.h> (my mouse being on IRQ2;
> IRQ5 is either COM3 or a QIC02 tape drive, which is going to cause me some
> problems!) and swapped the CTRL and CAPSLOCK keys in keyboard.c (this under
> control of a #define, SWAP_CAPL_CTRL).
> 
> The resulting boot disk printed the usual "Loading..." stuff, then (at the
> point that the SLS boot disk asks for the video mode, occasionally
> indicating a "Wild interrupt? (IRQ9)" because MS-DOS doesn't deconfigure my
> busmouse before a reboot...) it cold boots.

I found it.  Let this be a lesson to would-be kernel hackers....

I had decided that I should print a warning at boot time that the kernel was
swapping its caps-lock and ctrl keys, so I put a printk() in kbd_init().  It
never occurred to me that kbd_init() might be called when it wasn't safe to
call printk().

0.99.2 now works flawlessly, as far as I can tell, as does the mouse.  Now
all I need is a new ps :-)

++Brandon (I think I'll stick to databases next time....)

He's BAAAACK! Brandon S. Allbery     NOTE NEW ADDRESS!!! kf8nh@kf8nh.wariat.org
From: sdw@meaddata.com (Stephen Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Free Software Workshop, Moscow, 4/19-23
Date: 29 Dec 1992 15:36:44 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
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Geoffrey S Knauth (gsk@world.std.com) wrote:
: [ Moderator's note: They might be interested in somebody giving a talk
:   about Linux.  Volunteers?  --Lasu ]
: 
: 	     CONFERENCE ANNOUNCEMENT AND CALL FOR PAPERS
: 
:    There is a conference on Free Software taking place in Moscow,
: Russia, April 19-23, 1993.

Sure, I'd love to!

I'll pay for the time off if I can find a way to have the trip paid for.

sdw
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: dosburn@cwis.unomaha.edu (Don Osburn)
Subject: Re: SPLIT #$%&%$ THIS GROUP NOW!!!!!!!
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 04:26:07 GMT

davidre@ifi.uio.no (David Eric Reksten) writes:



>AAARRRRGGHHH!!!!!!!!

>When a newsgroup accumulates >150 articles over 2 days -- it's time to
>split. No human being could possibly read everthing in here and still
>hav a life.

>Please!

>.david
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>David E. Reksten, dept. of Informatics, Univ. of Oslo, Norway

I'm afraid I must agree.  To quote an old blue movie I watched once,
"My but it's gotten rather large, hasn't it?"  (I was only watching
for the insightful dialogue :-} )
From: ee89jje%ee.surrey.ac.uk (Ed)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: X- setup + UK Keyboard
Date: 23 Dec 92 15:33:25 GMT
Organization: University of Surrey, Guildford, England
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

BARRY TITMARSH (BTITMARS@ESOC.BITNET) wrote:
: Ok i have compiled every time the UK keys into the kernel.
: but it seems that X still favours the US keyboard. I cant find any place
: in the X setups where its is defined..
: So have i got to recompile the entire X windows just to swap Keyboards ??
: If so i thinks its easier to swap the keyboards HI HI..
: Barry.

Get the Xmodmap.uk from tsx-11.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: marc@r-node.gts.org (Marc Fournier - Admin)
Subject: Re: Cron for Linux?
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:23:11 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.050300.17459@netcom.com> zmbenhal@netcom.com (Zeyd M. Ben-Halim) writes:
>In article <BzL4M1.Cp8@cs.dal.ca> dinn@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael 'Moose' Dinn) writes:
>>
>>Does a cron-type scheduler exit for Linux? the SLS distribution doesn't
>>return anything on a find / -name \*cron\* -print.
>>
>>--
>> Michael Dinn, CS Student * dinn@ug.cs.dal.ca * Use your modem! (902) 461-4773
>> "make lots of money",  "enjoy the work",  "operate within the law":  choose 2
>
>tsx-11.mit.edu:pub/linux/sources/usr.bin/vixie-cron.tar.Z
>
>Zeyd

	It is also included in the new .99 release in /usr/bin.
But...it doesn't get started as part of the installation stuff..you
have to add it to /etc/rc

Marc







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From: neil@alamo.mth.pdx.edu (John Neil)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: rlogin anyone?
Summary: Anyone have it running yet?
Keywords: rlogin, linux, tcpip
Date: 23 Dec 92 21:17:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: dehn.neil.725145468


Is there anyone out there with a working binary of rlogin under linux (not
to mention the daemon, rlogind)?  If not, then I will be tackling this after
I get back into my office.  At first glance, it shouldn't be too difficult.
After all, it's not much different than telnet.  However, it's been my
experience that rlogin sessions require a bit fewer resources and are a bit
more stable than telnet sessions.  All this is beside the point which is if
someone has already got an rlogin binary which works then I won't waste my
time re-inventing the wheel.  If (and hopefully when) I am successful, I will
post my findings.

--John Neil

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From: hlu@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: libc.a errors with gcc 2.3.3
Keywords: gcc, 486
Date: 1 Jan 93 22:48:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1993Jan1.224805.21285
Organization: Washington State University!

In article <1i175uINNndp@alnitak.usc.edu> dkyoon@alnitak.usc.edu (Dae-Kyun Yoon) writes:
>>>Also:
>>>  Is it safe to delete /usr/lib/shlib/jump and nojump?
>>>  I believe these are the gcc 2.2.2d directories for
>>>  the jump libraries and have been replaced with
>>>  lib*.ca and lib*.sa in /usr/lib. Is this correct?
>>>
>
>>Yes.
>
>I doubt that just removing /usr/lib/shlib/jump is really safe, especially
>if you have thoses libraries other than the standard gcc's.  I think
>you'd better copy old libraries to /usr/lib/*.sa first before removing
>jump/ directory.

Oops.

>
>BTW, H.J., could you tell us what jump-4.2.TZ is for, then ?
>

That is the source code for building shared libraries.


H.J.
From: jimc@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (James Carpenter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Seagte ST-01 with Quantum Prodrive ELS
Date: 26 Dec 92 01:14:52 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu

I just got a Segate ST-01 controller and a 85 meg. Quantum Prodrive ELS. It
doesn't appear to be working too well. I am also having trouble trying to
debug it because after a little while MY KEYBOARD HANGS! It happens under
both DOS and Linux. I have tried changing IRQ and the base address but
nothing changes. Can anyone help me out?

Thanks,

Jim Carpenter
CARPENTER@Eisner.DECUS.Org
jimc@gnu.ai.mit.edu


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