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From: birdman@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Christopher Kush)
Subject: Re: I DO NOT play ANY kind of GUITAR!
Keywords: vote no, and tell `em why
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:14:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.172700.4235@head-cfa.harvard.edu> eskridge@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Paul Eskridge) writes:
>
>I would like to suggest that everyone reply to the postings regarding changing
>the name of this newgroup to vote against it.  Why, you might ask?  Because we
>are BASS players.  We are not GUITAR players.  So write in, saying "No, I will
>vote against the creation of `rec.music.makers.guitar.bass', but I WOULD vote
>FOR `rec.music.makers.bass'.  That's what I did, anyway.  As long as we're given
>the chance to change it, we may as well take the opportunity to FIX it also.
>
>All the best,
>Paul

This is an important thread.
No.
Really, it is.

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Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: barsz@bmtlh168.BNR.CA (Peter Barszczewski)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: I STILL don't play a guitar
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:28:32 GMT
Reply-To: barsz@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ltd.


In article <16857BA55.ADCBB@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU>, ADCBB@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU
(C. Brian Batey) writes:

|> .... then lets be rec.bass (same disclaimer).  I feel that our name should
|> reflect what we're about in as precise a manner as possible.

Agreed, but in the english language bass has many meanings (e.g. a fish, a low
tone, a low vocal part, fibre from palm trees, a drum, etc.).  Being precise is
a bitch, hence all the problems with the naming of the group.

--
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: whale@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stephen Schmidt)
Subject: Re: Interested in going wireless
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 22:56:35 GMT

In article <D6V6PB1w165w@mantis.co.uk> jonathan@mantis.co.uk (Jonathan Egre') writes:
>warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw) writes:
>> [there's 150,000 unsigned bands in LA. Maybe.]
>
>At a rough guess, this is the equivalent of 50% of the entire population of 
>Los Angeles between the ages of 15 and 25 (both genders) being in a band.
>Presumably the other 50% are trying to break into movies :-)
>
By a total coincidence I have the 1986 State and Metropolitan Area Data
Book at hand...(part of my dissertation research)

Total population of LA CMSA is 12,372,586. Of that, 13.6 percent is
between 18 and 24, or 1,682,672. That's 7 years of population. To get
the population 15 to 25 multiple by 11/7, which is 2,644,198. Assuming
150,000 bands = 750,000 people gives 1 band member per 3.52 persons, or
28.4% of the population.
LA CMSA includes the following counties: Orange, LA, Ventura, Riverside,
San Bernadino. That's probably a little bigger than the "LA area" so you
might want to round that percent up a bit...

Still, it does sound like an exaggeration to me.
-- 
Steve Schmidt			<><		   whale@leland.stanford.edu

"We have met the enemy and he is us" - Walt Kelly
From: gen4052@husky1.stmarys.ca
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: REQS: Pearl Jam & Nirvana
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:55:56 GMT
Organization: St. Mary's University, Halifax, N.S., Canada

I'm looking for some bass tabs for any Pearl Jam song (Alive esp.) and Nirvana
'Lithium'
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: whale@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stephen Schmidt)
Subject: Re: I STILL don't play a guitar
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 19:48:23 GMT

In article <16857BA55.ADCBB@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU> ADCBB@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU (C. Brian Batey) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.170540.16105@leland.Stanford.EDU>
>whale@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stephen Schmidt) writes:
>>Um, what do you call a Clevinger, then?
>>The instrument has progressed some in 40 years...
>>--
>How about an "electric upright bass"...that's what I call it anyway.
>True enough, the instrument has progressed in 40 years, but are we
>to be an electric bass guitar group only?  If yes, then lets be
>rec.guitar.bass (or whatever) if not, then lets be rec.bass (same
>disclaimer).  I feel that our name should reflect what we're about in as
>precise a manner as possible.
> 
I think if we took a show of virtual hands, we'd find that about half
the readers of this group play upright bass as well as or instead of
electric bass guitars. Given the similarity of the instruments it seems
silly to split the groups...
I earlier proposed rec.music.makers.bass, I continue to support that name.
-- 
Steve Schmidt			<><		   whale@leland.stanford.edu

"We have met the enemy and he is us" - Walt Kelly
From: eskridge@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Paul Eskridge)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: I DO NOT play ANY kind of GUITAR!
Keywords: vote no, and tell `em why
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:27:00 GMT
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA


I would like to suggest that everyone reply to the postings regarding changing
the name of this newgroup to vote against it.  Why, you might ask?  Because we
are BASS players.  We are not GUITAR players.  So write in, saying "No, I will
vote against the creation of `rec.music.makers.guitar.bass', but I WOULD vote
FOR `rec.music.makers.bass'.  That's what I did, anyway.  As long as we're given
the chance to change it, we may as well take the opportunity to FIX it also.

All the best,
Paul
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: fdeck@grumpy.helios.nd.edu (francis deck)
Subject: Re: Interested in going wireless
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:20:27 GMT

One advantage of wireless... there's less chance of getting a
shock from poorly-grounded equipment.  This is especially
nice when you play a lot of outdoor shows.  Indeed, I think
safety was one of the original motivations for going to all-
wireless stage systems.

f.deck

Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: andy@ice.stx.com (Andy Moore)
Subject: Re: I DO NOT play ANY kind of GUITAR!
Keywords: vote no, and tell `em why
Reply-To: andy@ian.stx.com
Organization: Hughes STX, Lanham, MD
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:55:40 GMT

While we're at it, let's do it right!
  rec.music.makers.guitar.bass
  rec.music.makers.bass.guitar
  rec.music.makers.bass.guitar.not
  rec.music.makers.guitar.bass.not
  rec.music.makers.bass.the-instrument
  rec.music.makers.bass.the-fish
  rec.music.makers.bass.electric
  rec.music.makers.bass.acoustic
  rec.music.makers.bass.organic
  rec.music.makers.bass.electric
  rec.music.makers.bass.electric.4-string
  rec.music.makers.bass.electric.5-string
  rec.music.makers.bass.electric.6-string
  rec.music.makers.bass.electric.13-string
  rec.music.makers.bass.electric.fretless
  rec.music.makers.bass.electric.stringless
  rec.music.makers.bass.pickers
  rec.music.makers.bass.fingers
  rec.music.makers.bass.slappers
  rec.music.makers.bass.rickenbackers
  rec.music.makers.bass.wahl
  rec.music.makers.bass.silvertone
  rec.music.makers.bass.geddy.fans
  rec.music.makers.bass.geddy.bashers
  rec.music.makers.bass.speakers
  rec.music.makers.bass.electric.4-string.novice.questions
  rec.music.makers.bass.purists.from.hell
______________________________________________________________________________
Andy Moore         "You keep your dream, and I'll keep the money!"
 andy@ice.stx.com                      - Ren Hoek, "The Ren and Stimpy Show"
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: GEN2010@Husky1.StMarys.Ca (ROSS BILLARD)
Subject: Re: I DO NOT play ANY kind of GUITAR!
Organization: St. Mary's University, Halifax, N.S., Canada
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 15:13:08 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.13.SMU

In <1992Aug31.172700.4235@head-cfa.harvard.edu> eskridge@head-cfa.harvard.edu writes:

> 
> I would like to suggest that everyone reply to the postings regarding changing
> the name of this newgroup to vote against it.  Why, you might ask?  Because we
> are BASS players.  We are not GUITAR players.  So write in, saying "No, I will
> vote against the creation of `rec.music.makers.guitar.bass', but I WOULD vote
> FOR `rec.music.makers.bass'.  That's what I did, anyway.  As long as we're given
> the chance to change it, we may as well take the opportunity to FIX it also.
> 
> All the best,
> Paul

I think we should keep it the way it is... most people still think the bass as
being a guitar... just to keep things simpler, I think it should remain
alt.guitar.bass.
 
Ross
(look for Ross on IRC)
From: svrobins@bra.isnet.inmos.co.uk
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Guitar buying advice
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:11:10 GMT
Organization: Inmos Limited

In article <168506FEE.ADCBB@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU>, ADCBB@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU (C. Brian Batey) writes:
> 
>  
> If you are looking for a steel string guitar, I'd suggest Seagull.  These
> guitars claim to be hand made and are in the $175 to $500 range.  All of
> the guitars that I've played have been superior to any other guitar in
> that range.  Their quality tends to be like some of the $600 - $750 guitars
> that I've seen.  You really get a lot of value for your buck, and they usually
> have really good action (especially for the price).
>  
> hope this helps
>  
> brian

I agree. I recently bought a Seagull S6 and its a very nice guitar. From
what I remember from the sales bumf Seagull is a Canadian company. All their
guitars are spruce or cedar solid-topped ie not laminated. This apparently
helps the resonant qualities of the guitar. Back and sides are mahogany.
All tuning machines are Grover/Schaller and mine work very well.

If you want flash looking guitar then these may not be for you. They have
some sort of achohol lacquer finish which looks almost matt. I actually like
it, and the bumf says that this too helps the sound of the guitar.

The guitar plays very well, and seemed very loud when compared to other
guitars in the shop. The build quality looks *very* good.

This cost me 224 uk pounds, including a pretty good soft case, which I 
consider a bargain. I did'nt shop around for a good price, so I suppose I 
might have been able to get it cheaper, but after playing it for about
30 mins in the shop I just wanted to get it home.

If you are buying in the US or Canada then I suppose it may be quite a bit
cheaper.

Does anyone else have one?

Paul Robins

===================== gave up the .sigs years ago ======================= 
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: deadhead@molest.ugcs.caltech.edu (stephen thompson)
Subject: Re: Which Fender Strat is best ?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:02:33 GMT

rblander@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Robyn Landers) writes:

>In article <1992Sep4.002715.20039@wri.com> andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek) writes:
>	Let me further muddy the issue by pointing out that the
>first Squiers were made in Japan in the mid 80s, and for a while
>there ALL Fenders were made in Japan.  Yes, you young'uns, for a
>couple years there were NO made-in-USA Fender guitars.  The whole
>company moved to Japan.

>(basswood, not plywood) and the hardware (tuning machines, etc),

I have a question that's been bothering me for a while.  People on the net
keep talking about Mexican vs. Japanese vs. American strats.  My SQUIER strat
was made in India.  Is that a standard place for squier strats to be made?
The guitar was made in Mar of 90 and is made out of hard(bass?)wood.  Is
that normal?  I haven't seen any guitars like mine and wondered what the
deal was...

Stephen




--
----                                    I got no reason              
--------                             to be there, but I              
----------------                        Imagine it might             
--------------------------------  be some kind of change. --Bob Dylan
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.tab
From: luke@cowan.edu.au (L.RAYNER)
Subject: TAB REQUEST...Australian Viewers
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 01:16:27 GMT

OK  Im looking for some Tommy Emmanuel tabs.  The sheet music he produces just
doesn't cut it, and makes it HARDER to learn a song when note X is not right.

If anyone out there in net land has any TE stuff, could you e-mail or post.

Im looking for:   Lady Madonna (absolutely brilliant)
		Blue Moon
		... Bugger it, anything will do.


Cheers
From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.tab
Subject: Re: Tab for Crossroads
Date: 25 Aug 92 12:42:58 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

shotokan@diku.dk (Kim H|glund) writes:

>ICCEK@ASUACAD.BITNET (Chris Kavanagh) writes:
>>Would anyone happen to know the chords to claptons crossroads.?

========================================================================
    A (with a bit of fiddling about dropping the A 3rd string to a G etc)
    D7                                C
    A
    E                    D7           C
    A
===========================================
 A                       D7    D7   C   
-----------------------|----2----2--------|
-----------------------|----1----1--------|
----2--0--2--0--2--0---|----2----2--2-----|
-2--2-----2-----2----2-|-0-----0----3--3--|
-0-------------------3-|------------------|
-----------------------|------------------|
 |-----Rpt. 4times-----|--  Pick notes----|


Back to the A pattern then it's just rock 'n roll from there on in, though
use the D7 pattern after the rock 'n roll E

Try using different variations on the chords to make it more interesting.
Such as going from an open E to an E7 plyed as a C7 shape at the fourth fret
but missing out the barre and hitting the top and bottom open strings.
Try the same with the A:- play it as an E shape at the 5th but miss out the
barre (don't hit the open B though). Mess around with it a bit, don't copy it
slavishly These are useful variations to add during the singing parts.
If you switch it to E, A7, B, these variations work pretty well.

Hey! what do I know anyway? I only play this stuff and it sounds ok to me!

Dave
--
From: David.T.Greenfield@dartmouth.edu (David T. Greenfield)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.tab
Subject: Re: REQ: Amanda (Waylon)
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:48:25 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a2@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <fblau.715034486@well.sf.ca.us>
fblau@well.sf.ca.us (Frank Blau) writes:

> chords anyone?

It's been years since I've played this one.  Here's how I remember it
(the words are probably off a bit).

1ST VERSE
     A               D               A
I've held it all in, Lord knows I've tried

            A                    E             A
But it's an awful awakening in a country boy's life

   A                     D        A
To look in the mirror in total surprise

       A                         E         A
At the hair on my collar and the age in my eyes.


CHORUS
 A      D           A
Amanda, light of my life

A                           E           A
Fate should have made you a gentleman's wife

 A      D           A
Amanda, light of my life

A                           E           A
Fate should have made you a gentleman's wife

2ND VERSE
It's a measure of people who don't understand
The pleasures of life in a Hillbilly band.
I got my first guitar when I was fourteen
Now I'm pushing 30(?), still wearing jeans.

David
david.t.greenfield@dartmouth.edu
From: aash@ms.uky.edu (aash)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.tab
Subject: Re: REQ: Sister Golden Hair - America
Date: 24 Aug 92 21:10:26 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

In article <92236.193948SJH5@psuvm.psu.edu> Steve Hess <SJH5@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Does anyone know the chord progression for America's Sister Golden Hair?
>
>I bought a book for "advanced" players, in the hope that it would have Real
>Chords, but the ones it has are so watered down it doesn't sound anything like
>the recorded version...  GRR.  A bloody waste of $11.
>
>Moral of the Story:  Don't waste your on "America's Greatest Hits - Advanced
>Edition"

this is one of the songs that taught me to sing and play
at the same time.  it's also neat cause it uses all the
major and minor chords in the key of E, so you can instantly
know all the chords of any key by recognizing these patterns

C#min - A - E - Esus4 - E
F#min - C#min - B - A

v1:
         E                             G#min
"well i tried to make it sunday but i got so damned depressed
        A                E               G#min
that i set my sights on monday and i got myself undressed,
        A               F#min         C#min G#min A
i ain't ready for the alter, but i do believe there's times
        F#min         A                E - Esus2 - E
when a woman sure can be a friend of mine"

v2 chords same as first:
         E                             G#min
"well i keep on thinkin bout you sister golden hair surprise
        A                E               G#min
that i just can't live without you can't you see it in my eyes
        A               F#min         C#min G#min A
i've been one poor correspondent, i've been too too hard to find
        F#min         A                E - Esus2 - E
but it doesn't mean you ain't been on my mind"

ch:
           B                             A              E
will you meet me in the middle will you meet me in the end
           B                             A              E
will you love me just a little just enough to show you care
          F#min                  G#min           A
well i tried to fake it i don't mind sayin i just can't make it

repeat intro, then verse 2, then chorus, then they do this
ugly doo wap thing that uses the chorus (B - A - E) thing, that
i always leave out.


there ya go! :)
aash
-- 
aash@{ms.uky.edu|ukma.bitnet|ukpr}    "the only thing i ever really wanted to
{backbone|rutgers|uunet}!ukma!aash     say was wrong, was wrong, was wrong."
From: philipm@papillon.ucsd.edu (The Philster)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.tab
Subject: Robert Johnson Blues TAB REQ
Date: 3 Sep 1992 18:34:56 GMT
Organization: DIP Laboratory, UCSD/SIO, La Jolla CA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: papillon.ucsd.edu
Keywords: Robert Johnson, Blues, TAB


Hello world. Would anyone give me some help about the good ole Robert Johnson?
I would like to learn how to play one of his songs. I know some basic blues riffs and these do help, but does anyone have an entire transcription?

Thanks,

Phil
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.tab
From: cpeckham@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Peckham)
Subject: Re: Robert Johnson Blues TAB REQ
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: Robert Johnson, Blues, TAB
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 13:53:39 GMT

Hi Phil,
       Its nice to know there are some likeminded people out there!
Robert Johnson TAB transcriptions are ,in my opinion, some of the most
complicated looking TAB's you'll see, so I'm not going to try trans-
scribing any for the network just now.  I will recommend that you try
to obtain one of the Oak Publication's excellent music books on the 
subject- try, say, Delta Blues by Stefan Grossman.  The benefit of this
approach is that a flexidisc is included with the book, so that even if
you can't find a regular recording (which is especially important for
getting a _feel_ of the music, and more fundamentally, for figuring
out the phrasing (which is far from simple!)) or afford one, you've got
a recorded break or verse to get going on.  The Stefan Grossman Workshop
has the largest stock of this kind of thing that I've seen.  E-mail me
for more details if needed.  Oh yeah- don't forget other artists of the
same era and genre- their work can be just as good and often just a bit
more accessible to us beginners

Chris

...............................................................................
:  Chris Peckham            .   Fan of the Country Blues                      :
:  Department of Chemistry  .   Influences include: Rev. Gary Davis, Missippi :
:  University of York       .   John Hurt, Sam McGee, Big Bill Broonzy, Blind :
:  York,  UK                .   Lemon Jefferson, Memphis Minnie, Bo Carter....:
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar.tab
Subject: Tab : I and I - Dylan
From: cctr128@cantua.canterbury.ac.nz (Mr K Osborn)
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:27:18 +1200
Reply-To: k.osborn@cantua.canterbury.ac.nz
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


I and I
-Bob Dylan.

	
Am   C   G
Been so long since a strange woman slept in my bed,

D
See how sweet she sleeps,

Am    C,G
How free must be her dreams.

Am   C   G
In another lifetime she must of owned the world,

G
Or been faithfully wed,
	
D
To some righteous king who wrote love songs,

Am    C,G
Beside moonlit streams,
	
Am          G                    D              Am                 C G
I and I, in Creation where one's nature neither honors nor forgives,

Am        G              D              Am
I and I, One said to the other, no mans sees my face and lives.


Took an untrodden path once where the swift don't win the race,
It goes to the worthy,
Who can can divine the word of truth.
It took a stranger to see teach me,
To look into justices' beautiful face.
And to see an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.

I and I, in Creation where one's nature neither honors nor forgives,
I and I, One said to the other, no mans sees my face and lives.

Think I'll go out,
An' go for a walk.
Not much happening here,
But then again nothin' ever does.
Besides if she wakes up now,
She'll just want me to talk,
An I got nothing to say,
Specially about what ever it was.

I and I, in Creation where one's nature neither honors nor forgives,
I and I, One said to the other, no mans sees my face and lives.


Be seeing you,
Kelwyn.
_________

He said that's alright babe,
I love you too.
But we were Tangled Up In Blue.
       - Bob Dylan
From: zenmast@diku.dk (Morten Kringelbach)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.tab
Subject: Tuck&Patti anyone ?
Date: 30 Aug 92 22:16:53 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

>Anybody heard Tuck&Patti's interpretation of these 2 songs from their
>Love Warrior CD ? In it you can hear how Tuck switched from Castles to
>Little Wing and then back again and it sounded like 1 complete song if you
>didn't know it.

Sure did ! Tuck&Patti's interpretation are fantastic - Even Better than the
real thing! I discovered this marvelous duo during a recent stay the U.S.
I got hold of "Tears Of Joy" which is very good too - especially the
interpretation of Cindy Lauper's "Time After Time" stands out.

I heard this rumour that Tuck&Patti supposedly are married (?) Does anyone have
some biographical details on Tuck&Patti ? As far as I know they've made 3
albums together and Tuck has done one solo-album. Tuck is really an amazing
guitarist - be sure to check out their version of Beatles' "Honey Pie".

Any Information Appreciated,

  Morten Kringelbach (zenmast@freja.diku.dk)

>-marv
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From: schnitzi@cs.ucf.edu (Mark Schnitzius)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.tab
Subject: Re: midnight oil
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:10:32 GMT
Organization: University of Central Florida

This is from memory, but I think it's right.

The opening (and closing) three chord thingy is
F#m A B.  The chorus goes like:

F#m                       D               A
How can we dance when our love is turning?

F#m                       D                E
How do we sleep while our beds are burning?

I forget the rest.  Can someone fill this in?

mark
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.tab