From: f43703a@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp (SUPRATIC GUPTA)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Phataphat, Harpal Chohan, RuchirG and Deepak (Re: I have..)
Date: 8 Jan 93 03:53:47 GMT
	<1993Jan5.235426.46141@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
Organization: Nagoya University Computation Center, Nagoya, Japan.

In article <1993Jan5.235426.46141@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:


%This article is addressed to dchatterjee


 |  Deepak is a newcomer and not so seasoned like me. I have received 
 |  a plethora of abuses, insults and little support. Mr.Ram_Lakhan alias

I agree to you here completely. 

| Minnesota) is also some character 8-). Soowar Gupat (ooops ! Supratic Gupta),
Very nice compliment. I generally like your coments. Unlike few other
people, you have  inteligence.


| a confirmed (p)secularist and a secession-apologist/ friend of Asim Mughal's
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I am poor in english. Please use easy words for me. Or else I find it difficult
to respond. 

| Donkey -(Moron Incarnate a la Mustafa Ibrahim), is also a central component/

Did I ever say that I am your enemy. I tried tried to help you too infact.
Ask Samit if you don't belief, you were being used (if not you yourself were
one of the aonon posters, obvoiusly you cannot be all as one person one id).
People were laughing at you because of the way you were jumping at the
imganinary Mustafa (not real as it was a anon posting,Can you show me
where Mustafa called your mother's name without provocation , direct 
provocation)  You justified your act of using bad words because a unknown
anon wrote bad things about your mother signing Mustafa. On the other hand see
your hipocracy. Even Samit didnot defend himself, but you went to defend
him. But who is defending you? It is not a thing that can be defended.
Do you understand my words? Here I am taking all the pain not to defend
Mustafa but to help you. Yes you Chatterjee. See I never used a bad words.
And what you you will give in return, One more set of bad words/ sarcastic
 words. I will not respond any more in this topic. If you are blind. I can't
help. It is your problem. Jump arround as much as you want.

 |  part in this Lying Machine. Me, the nice guy, gets caught in this trap !!!!
                                        ^^^^^^^        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nice guy - You have a habit of beating your own drum. NIJER DHAK NIJE PITIYE
KONO LAB NEI.

caught in this trap- It is true.The worst thing is  you don't even understand
 it. ( I assume that you are not one of the anons. In that case my all
coments are invalid. Because in that case you are really inteligent).


 |
 |  Gupta that I was posting those abusive mails using MI's address.
                                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
In never said that. I said that trying to defend is a stupid act. I even
said that I can be one of the anon. Any way anons will feel the crunch.
Don't bother about it. 


 |  This blasphemeous statement plus his support for Mustafa and in the past
 |  his support for softening down on Islamic fundamentalism in India is *NOT*
                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I am not a fundamentalist. I am totally against it. But what I was against
(I didnot know of Mustafa History, I am also quite new) was that in this
case Mustafa wrote the difference between man and animal is religion. Here
it is not important if that statement was correct or not. The point is 
1) Is it Islamic fundamentalism?
2) Did it hurt any one religion in particular?
3) Did he use bad words?

I don't care about your personal relation with Mustafa, That is your
problem (here I am refering about the truth of  death threat  and other
things. Mustafa has publicly acknowledged that he shared the letter sent
by you with MSA. There is absolutely nothing wrong in it. But you feel,
that he wanted to get a death threat for you, is your personal belief. 
My personal question to you, Did you use bad words (even in retaliation)
in private email?) This net is not supposed to deal with personal problems.


 |  what a guy like me will like. No way man !
Have yoiu ever asked yourself if you look like a Hindu fundamentalist,
especially when you speak against Mustafa. Any sort of fundamentalisim is
bad. I don't know if you support the Hindu fundamentalists of BM incident.



 |
 |  Anyway, Ruchir, Nishit etc., should try to invite Deepak into their thek
 |  rather than shunning him away. He is wild horse that needs to be sized up
 |  and can be fantastic steed. For lemme tell you a friend in need is a 
 |  friend in(deed).

Great words. Tame him so that you can use him as a weapon to fight all people
you don't like. All the best. It reflect of our Indian culture. It is
the same reason why we were rulled by foreign forces for so long. I really
no words to describe this act of taming the wild horce.
To Bose, see I personally warned you too, THey are caling you a wild horse
to be tamed. I am sorry. I didnot want to say it personally.

 |
 |  - have fun 8-),
 |
 |     deb chatterjee
 |   (a good samaritan) 
 |  

I protested against one of your (and of some others too)  hipocracy.

On one hand you protest against some people running to your sysadmin
saying that no body has right to curb your freedom of speech. On the other
hand you people use bad means to curb the freedom of speech of Mr. Mustafa
using rough tackling. 

You will argue that he is a Fundamentalist. But to me you (especially
in some situations, not all, others articles are very nice, Ilove
reading them) are a fundamentalist too.

If you hate mustafa so much, why don't you add him to your kill file?
Because in that case there will be no fun.

TRy to reason. Don't answer immidiately. Take a break, think. and
then answer. I am know tryng to help you, not Mustafa.


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With regards
 
SUPRATIC GUPTA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian