HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ck347@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard A. Mulac)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: WELLLLL! IT'S DAY ONE. WHERE'S THE PLAN???
Date: 21 Jan 1993 16:29:47 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ck347@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard A. Mulac)
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ck347@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard A. Mulac) writes:

>>Another lie - it's day one and THERE IS NO ECONOMIC RECOVERY PLAN UP
>>ON THE HILL!  No more excuses!  Instead of wasting time paying off
>>foreign lobbyists like Brown and admitted felons like Baird, you
>>should be keeping the PROMISES YOU MADE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
 
niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) says:

>Gee, I think you could wait until he has actually been in office a day
>before you complain.  Um, it's hard to do things until your 
>administration is in place.

Hmmm, strange how ordinary people like you and I would know that two
months during a transition period is too short of a time to prepare
a sweeping economic package for delivery to the hill on day one.  It
just proves how STUPID President Bozo is!  But then again, He said he
had THE PLAN all along during the campaign and also wasted time on
that media circus, the by-invitation-only economic conference.  
He alone PROMISED to have an economic package up on the hill ON DAY
ONE.

>>                           PREDICTION
>>
>>In one year an attempt will be made to hold a recall election for
>>the office of President of the United States.
 
>Probably by a bunch of Rush Limbaugh supporters like yourself who don't
>know enough to realize that there is no such thing.  You can't recall
>the President.

I said they would ATTEMPT to hold a recall election.  Actually the throngs
of angry voters will simply run Clinton and Gore out of town on a rail.

-- 
Richard Mulac                                       ck347@cleveland.freenet.edu
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       1996 election countdown - 1385 more days         | These pontifications 
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From: sweeney@dionheinz.uchicago.edu (Jeff Sweeney)
Subject: Susan Getzendanner, Attorney General
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:51:17 GMT


Now that Zoe Baird is out of the picture, I suggest that Susan
Getzendanner would make the perfect Attorney General for Bill Clinton.
Getzendanner was a respected Federal judge in Chicago for many years.
She retired recently to join a loop law firm. She currently represents
Commonwealth Edison, so she could be said to be 'sympathetic' to
business. She is progressive, I think. She is a good democrat and is
tight with the Chicago machine. She has political ambition. She is
personable, and telegenic. She is a woman. Above all, she is eminently
qualified, intelligent, and an excellent legal mind.





-- 

Jeff Sweeney		sweeney@dionheinz.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc
From: bermes@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Terry Bermes)
Subject: Re: DAY TWO: MORE LIES
Organization: AT&T Looney Bin
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:48:15 GMT

From article <1993Jan22.200322.18294@henson.cc.wwu.edu>, by n9041679@henson.cc.wwu.edu (brian h. harper):
> bermes@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Terry Bermes) writes:
> 
> 
>>	And if he made any attempt to publically support her, you
>>can be damn sure that the Republinistas would have been all over
>>him for that.  Willie can't win on this one.
> 
> You're right that Willie can't win, but not because of the Republicans.
> Watch or read some news, and you'll discover that the republicans on the
> committee were very supportive of Zoe, because she embraced many republican
> ideas, including support for the death penalty. The most aggressive members
> were actually Democrats. If anything, this is a good test for who has the
> power in this new 1-party dominated govt. And it doesn't look like it's
> Bill. We'll see... As for now: Bye, Bye Bairdy!
> 
> -Brian Harper


	My comments were in regard to the Clinton bashers on the
net and not the members of the committee.  While there might have
been congressional support for Baird, this (Clinton's continuing
support) would have been more fodder for all of the public wailing 
and gnashing of teeth in regard to Clinton.  By itself, I don't 
really see this as a true test of Clinton's sway over Congress.

terry
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc
From: dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger)
Subject: Re: WELLLLL! IT'S DAY ONE. WHERE'S THE PLAN???
Organization: NCSU
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:08:58 GMT

In article <1jkblvINNg2q@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> 
ck347@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard A. Mulac) writes:

> Another lie - it's day one and THERE IS NO ECONOMIC RECOVERY PLAN UP
> ON THE HILL!  No more excuses!  Instead of wasting time paying off 
> foreign lobbyists like Brown and admitted felons like Baird, you 
> should be keeping the PROMISES YOU MADE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.  

I think Clinton was working on his economic recovery plan
during last night's inaugural ball.  He just has to recover
from his hangover before he submits his plan to Congress. 

Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
From: asper@sbctri.sbc.com (Alan E. Asper)
Subject: Bogus EPA report on second-hand smoke
Organization: Southwestern Bell Technology Resources, St.Louis, MO
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 15:50:53 GMT


There's an interesting article in this morning's Investor's Business Daily
about the EPA's recent report on the dangers of second-hand smoke.

Apparently, the EPA did a meta-analysis of 11 studies on second-hand smoke,
essentially combining all the data from these studies into one big one. As
anyone with a little background in stats knows, this is already taking some
liberties with the data. 
Then, the EPA chose a p of .10 (meaning, the experimenters would accept a
10 percent possibility of the results occurring by chance). Again, those
with an undergraduate stats course behind them knows that a p of .1 is not
very tight.
THEN, the EPA decided to do a one-tailed test of the results, which lowers
the confidence level even further (space doesn't allow me to explain a one-
tailed test). At this point, the EPA would have failed the course.

What it boils down to is that the EPA watered down the results of these 11
studies so much that they essentially came up with the answer that they 
wanted to come up with: Second hand smoke is evil. Or, as one EPA apologist
said, "Yes, it's rotten science, but it's a worthy cause. It will help us
get rid of cigarettes and to become a smoke-free society."
If the government wants to ban smoking everywhere, then they should just do  
it. What's appalling is that the EPA would corrupt Science--and yes, 
statistics _is_ a science--in order to achieve a predetermined political
goal.
I just thought this might make more of an interesting thread than the tiresome
religion-homosexuality stuff that's currently on the group.
Later,
Alan
From: borden@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Dave Borden)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: ZOE BAIRD: ATTORNEY
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:22:30 GMT
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA


In article <geturner.727546489@aer.com>, geturner@aer.com. (George Turner) writes:
> psg+@pitt.edu (Paul S Galvanek) writes:
> >Faced up to it, ha what a joke!  Can we assume then the motto of the
> >new administration will be - break the law and you'll get scolded?
> 
> Right!  There is clearly a double standard in Washington and in the press.
> Democrats are allowed to break the law and get scolded.  Republicans
> have to answer to any rumor or innuendo that the press can think of.
> How many times have you heard a reporter say(in reference to something a
> Republican has said),"Leaving more questions than answers," when the 
> questions were issues invented by the press to embarrass the
> Rebublicans?

Hey guys - most of the opposition to Baird in Congress has been from Democrats! 
There goes your theory.

 - Dave Borden
   borden@m5.harvard.edu
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From: Dr. Norman J. LaFave <lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Administration of the elite!
X-Xxdate: Thu, 28 Jan 93 08:45:04 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Company
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d15
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:48:59 GMT

In article <9171@news.duke.edu> EMIL CHUCK, eyc@acpub.duke.edu writes:
> "I am a product of America's middle class.  And when I am your
> president, you will be forgotten no more. ... I have news for the forces
> of greed and the defenders of the status quo:  your time has come--and
> gone.  It's time for a change.
> 
> "People want change, but government is in the way.  It has been hijacked
> by privilege, private interests.  It has forgotten who really pays the
> bills around here, it's taking more of your money and giving you less in
> service."
> 	Bill Clinton's accepting the Democratic nomination for President.
> 
> From: fred@johnd.tamu.edu (Fred Seals)
> Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
> Subject: A cabinet that looks like America
> Date: 26 Jan 93 13:50:46 GMT
> Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
> Comrade WJBR Clinton promised a cabinet that looked like America.
> So far 77 percent of the cabinet are millionares.  More than Reagan
> or Bush.
> 
> 
> There is no meaning.

If these people are as qualified as they appear to be, their finances
are irrelevant. What counts will be their performance. Meaning is in
the eye of the beholder I guess.

Norman

Dr. Norman J. LaFave
Senior Engineer
Lockheed Engineering and Sciences Company




When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro
                               Hunter Thompson
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc
From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Subject: Re: WELLLLL! IT'S DAY ONE. WHERE'S THE PLAN???
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<1jkblvINNg2q@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> <1jmdkhINNqjf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
	<1993Jan21.133804.4935@hemlock.cray.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:01:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.133804.4935@hemlock.cray.com> rja@mahogany126.cray.com (Russ Anderson) writes:

<   As for Clinton's alleged broken promises, it seems that most of the 
<   criticism is coming from those that opposed what he promised.  They 
<   criticized him when he made the promises, they criticise him now, and
<   they'll criticise him when he keeps his promises.

	Oh, like this promise?


"...I'll have the bills ready the day after I'm inaugurated.  I'll
send them to congress, and we'll have a hundred-day period...It will 
be the most productive in modern history."
	Clinton in interview on ABC's "Good Morning America", June 23, 1992


	Can Anderson explain how Clinton will keep that promise?
	Heck, let's ask Clinton!

Question: "We were originally led to believe that you'd have an outline to
Congress even before the inauguration and presented on Day One or shortly
thereafter...When will it be ready?"
Answer: "I don't know who lead you to believe that, but I'm the only one
who's authorized to talk about that."
		Clinton news conference 1/14/1993


	"Change", indeed.
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From: pajerek@telstar.kodak.com (Don Pajerek)
Subject: Re: WELLLLL! IT'S DAY ONE. WHERE'S THE PLAN???
Reply-To: pajerek@telstar.kodak.com (Don Pajerek)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. - Telstar
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:37:10 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.144828.18072@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> Dr. Norman J. LaFave <lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov> writes:

[article deleted]

>These arguements about "promises" are either mere partisan fru-fru,
>or show a complete lack of understanding of the realities of politics.
>
>Norman
>

Judging by the volume of persistent, hysterical anti-Clinton postings
from sources such as Mulac et.al., it's going to be a long four years
on t.p.m.

The frivolity of some of these postings if laughable. For example,
'DAY ONE: WHERE'S THE PLAN?': I suppose Mulac et.al. would be happy
if Clinton *had* submitted a 'plan to save the economy' on 'DAY ONE'?

Yeah, right.

I'm glad, for my nervous system's sake, that I'm not as full of hate
as some of these people, who at this pace will be totally incoherent
in a few more weeks.

Don Pajerek

Standard disclaimers apply.
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From: kevin@drogges.tti.com (Kevin Carothers)
Subject: Re: WELLLLL! IT'S DAY ONE. WHERE'S THE PLAN???
Organization: Transaction Technology Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:43:40 GMT

In article <1jkblvINNg2q@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ck347@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard A. Mulac) writes:
%
%Another lie - it's day one and THERE IS NO ECONOMIC RECOVERY PLAN UP
%ON THE HILL!  No more excuses!  Instead of wasting time paying off 
%foreign lobbyists like Brown and admitted felons like Baird, you 
%should be keeping the PROMISES YOU MADE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.  
%This administration is already a joke and it's just started!  I even 
%hear liberals on the local radio talk shows stating that they can't 
%believe they were suckered into voting for such a liar.  I really 
%feel sorry for all you people who defended Clinton in the past - you 
%must feel so foolish now.  I can't wait to see the first Presidential
%opinion polls.

 Ohh, boo hoo. Clinton based his election statements (not PROMISES) on
 BNS data that was later shown to be inaccurate due to padding by Bush 
 in his Economic Report from the President publication.  So he has to
 backpeddle, and all the sudden idiots like you are screaming "RECALL!".

 What a whining little shit you are. 
 You obviously don't have the guts to be an American. 
 In the future, shut up and think before you post, or move to France, dammit.

 I have my own prediction; Collectively, it will be found that Reagan and 
 Bush will have broke more promises every day before breakfast than 
 Clinton  will EVER break in his  entire career. 

%
%                           PREDICTION
%
%In one year an attempt will be made to hold a recall election for
%the office of President of the United States.
%
 right now you're accuracy is at 50%. Just the same as any other moron on the
 street. 

--

Kevin Carothers   {psivax,philabs,retix,quad1}!ttidca!kevin
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc
From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Subject: Re: WELLLLL! IT'S DAY ONE. WHERE'S THE PLAN???
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<21707@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> <21709@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>
	<1993Jan25.074308.25757@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com>
	<1993Jan25.144828.18072@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>
	<1993Jan25.163710.2788@kadsma.kodak.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:26:55 GMT

<In article <1993Jan25.163710.2788@kadsma.kodak.com> pajerek@telstar.kodak.com (Don Pajerek) writes:
<   In article <1993Jan25.144828.18072@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> Dr. Norman J. LaFave <lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov> writes:

<   [article deleted]

<>These arguements about "promises" are either mere partisan fru-fru,
<>or show a complete lack of understanding of the realities of politics.

	Ho, ho, ho. 
	LaFave had no problem taking the Shrub to task for breaking
	promises, but whine in his beer when Clintoon is asked
	to "pay up"!

<   Judging by the volume of persistent, hysterical anti-Clinton postings
<   from sources such as Mulac et.al., it's going to be a long four years
<   on t.p.m.

	HAH!
	Judging by Pajerek's hysterical reaction to criticism of
	his "King", it will indeed be a long four years on tpm..
	for Pajerek.

<   The frivolity of some of these postings if laughable. For example,
<   'DAY ONE: WHERE'S THE PLAN?': I suppose Mulac et.al. would be happy
<   if Clinton *had* submitted a 'plan to save the economy' on 'DAY ONE'?

<   Yeah, right.

	Who knows?
	But the fact is, Clintoon PROMISED an economic plan to send
	to Congress "on day one".
	Pajerek and LaFave want to pretend that this promise being
	broken is "no big deal"....but they probably know otherwise.

<   I'm glad, for my nervous system's sake, that I'm not as full of hate
<   as some of these people, who at this pace will be totally incoherent
<   in a few more weeks.

	Indeed, some folks may create an entire newsgroup just for
	their hatred....or has Pajerek not met Harelb?
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From: an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Money Supply (Re: WELLLLL! IT'S DAY ONE)
Date: 26 Jan 93 01:43:27 GMT
Reply-To: an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) says:

>>      Yes, yes.  Thank you, eternally, Ted.
>
>Ya know, if you continue with the proof-by-assertion and the random
>noise, you'll just fall faster into irrelevance, 'less you've already
>hit bottom.


     Do you think it matters?  I have to admit, I was truly hoping to
     hear somebody come up with *something*.  All I hear is the same
     old  " It's going to be okay because ... " with no basis in 
     fact.

     If 5 or 10,000 people have no real answers, yet everyone is 
     hopping around, greeting the new age, then yes, indeed, I'm 
     not worried about people not listening to me anymore.

     It's hilarious.  Absolutely hilarious.  

>
>
>
>
>
>
>--
>"Duff Beer for me, Duff Beer for you"
>	"I'll have a Duff's, you have one, too...."
>
From: jds@cs.umd.edu (James da Silva)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
Subject: How about the Poem? (was Re: TRANSCRIPT OF CLINTON'S INAUGURATION SPEECH??)
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:32:40 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, Department of Computer Science

In article <C17uMo.GIn@boi.hp.com> dianem@boi.hp.com (Diane Mathews) writes:
>Subject: News:  Clinton's Inaugural Address
>Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 18:06:17 GMT
>
>   WASHINGTON (AP) -- Following is the text of President Bill
>   Clinton's inaugural address:

Great.  Now, does anyone have the transcript of the Poem that was read
after the address?  I just caught bits of it, and it sounded intriguing.

Thanks,
Jaime
............................................................................
: Stand on my shoulders, : jds@cs.umd.edu  :                  James da Silva
: not on my toes.        : uunet!mimsy!jds : Systems Design & Analysis Group
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From: bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw)
Subject: Re: WELLLLL! IT'S DAY ONE. WHERE'S THE PLAN???
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: usa 
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:18:17 GMT

In <1jkblvINNg2q@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ck347@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard A. Mulac) writes:


>Another lie - it's day one and THERE IS NO ECONOMIC RECOVERY PLAN UP
>ON THE HILL!  No more excuses!  Instead of wasting time paying off 
>foreign lobbyists like Brown and admitted felons like Baird, you 
>should be keeping the PROMISES YOU MADE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.  
>This administration is already a joke and it's just started!  I even 
>hear liberals on the local radio talk shows stating that they can't 
>believe they were suckered into voting for such a liar.  I really 
>feel sorry for all you people who defended Clinton in the past - you 
>must feel so foolish now.  I can't wait to see the first Presidential
>opinion polls.

>                           PREDICTION

>In one year an attempt will be made to hold a recall election for
>the office of President of the United States.

I occurs to me that there is one thing for which we can all give thanks.
I for one am glad that this groups collection of chronic bitchers was
not around in 1776, or there simply would not be a US of A.
All talk no action, makes me think of an old political joke.

Part A said "Pick up your tools, climb on your asses, we are going
to the promised land. Party B said "Throw down your tools, sit on
your asses, this is the promised land. Maybe President Clinton
should say "pick up your tools, get off your asses, and we just
might make this the promised land". :-)

Or maybe I should join the group <begins> Moan, Bitch, Gripe, etc.

>-- 
>Richard Mulac                                       ck347@cleveland.freenet.edu

REB

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From: fred@johnd.tamu.edu (Fred Seals)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
Subject: A cabinet that looks like America
Date: 26 Jan 1993 13:50:46 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Reply-To: fred@johnd.tamu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: johnd.tamu.edu

Comrade WJBR Clinton promised a cabinet that looked like America.
So far 77 percent of the cabinet are millionares.  More than Reagan
or Bush.

Looks like the lemo-liberals will be telling the working people of 
America how they will redistribute our income.  

______________________________________________________________________

		Equal rights for the womb-bound.
 
   The above opinions are my own. To my knowledge they are not 
   shared by my employer or my friends.  However, they should be.
   Fred Seals
From: borden@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Dave Borden)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: Clinton's Address!!!
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:56:18 GMT
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA


In article <C1GDAw.Jy8@eis.calstate.edu>, ribarbe@eis.calstate.edu (Richard Eldon Barber) writes:
> snail:
> 
> PRESIDENT WM J CLINTON
> THE WHITE HOUSE
> WASHINGTON DC 20500
> 
> Email, 
> 75300.3115@compuserve.com
> 
> note, that was a campaign account, and traditionaly the chief isn't
> reachable via internet email.
> ---rick

That is the address. It was a campaign address, and then a transition team
address, and now an address within the Communications Office.  But I recommend
discretion for the time being.  The person in charge of the account, Jock Gill,
Director of Electronic Publishing and Public Email Access, has told us (us being
the clinton volunteers email team) that they're not yet ready to receive mass
correspondence by email.  The account itself is not large, and mail often bounces
from the mailbox being full.  Right now, Jock's priority is electronic
publishing, and the frequent postings of statements from the office of the
President and other offices originates from that account.  It's possible to get
on that mailing list, and receive those statements.  Send mail to
clinton-volunteers@campaign92.org, and someone knowledgeable will tell you how to
subscribe.  (Sorry, I don't remember how to do it.)  Real email access, that is,
email as another way along with telephone, US mail, telegram, fax and other media
to send correspondence to the administration is on their agenda but isn't quite
ready yet.  So I don't recommend at this point using that address to send in your
opinions.  On the other hand, suggestions related to how to pursue email access
would probably be appreciated.  Also, all the clinton-volunteers email also goes
to that account, so if you're interested in getting hooked up to the
administration on the net, you should check us out.

   - Dave Borden
     borden@m5.harvard.edu  
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