HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: u9030062@golum.riv.csu.edu.au (Ronald Ku)
Subject: Re : Ooh La La
Originator: u9030062@golum.riv.csu.edu.au
Organization: Charles Sturt University - Riverina, Wagga Wagga, NSW, Australia
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:06:47 GMT

In article <4857@ccu.umintoba.ca>, kokwok@ee.umainitoba.ca (julian)
writes:
 
>In article <5183@transfer.stratus.com>, cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com (Douglas D. Cheung) writes:
>> If you have X-window, run the following program.  I promise it is not
>> a obscene picture.
>> 
>> For those don't know how to save and run a program, 
>> 1) Type [s] to save.
>> 2) Answer [n] to the question of ... mbox format...
>> 3) After leaving news, emacs Soc.culture.hongkong in your /News directory
>> 4) Delete all the lines above and including "Cut Here".
>> 5) Save the file in your favorite boyfriend/girlfriend's name, ex. Amazon.
>> 6) Change attribute to executable file.
>> 7) Type your favorite boyfriend/girlfriend's name.
>> 
>> Enjoy.
>> ------  Cut Here --------
>
>[stuff deleted]
>
>NO, I cannot get it. Would you please convert it to a uuencoded file and
>
>try again? 
>

    Sorry! I missed the original post! Could somebody told me what is that
program? Is it something like gif file?

    I would like to try it out. Could somebody send me a copy of it or
repost the original new in the net.

    Thanks in advance.

-- 
*  Ronald Ku                             *  UNIX will use next,       *
*  u9030062@golum.riv.csu.edu.au  OR     *  UNIX is YOUr next,        *
*  u9030062@zac.riv.csu.edu.au           *  So I use UNIX!            *
*  Charles Sturt University              *  And I survive for UNIX!!! *
From: Kenny Chan
Subject: EE job market in Hong Kong
Reply-To: atccoop@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 19:18:46 GMT

Hi,

I would like to know more about the electrical engineering job market in HK.
How many engineers graduate in HK each year? Is there any EE professional
society in HK? What is the current starting salary for EE in Hong Kong?

Any help and comment is greatly appreciated!

Kenny Chan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mkcman@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Marcus Man)
Subject: RE - Electronics/videogame stores in Hong Kong. (SUMMARY) 
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 17:00:08 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.224646.8408@mits.mdata.fi>, karttu@mits.mdata.fi (Antti Karttunen) writes:
>  
> I recently asked here about good places in Hong Kong to purchase for the
> electronics/video games/computers/etc. I got three answers in mail,
> and here's a sort of summary of them. Well, I don't know whether
> it's good idea to tell the names of the persons mailing privately,
> so I have replaced their names with numerals instead. Anyway, much
> thanks to them all!
>  
> From person one:
> 
> There are certain shopping malls that sell the electronics and videogames. 
> They are :
>  
> 1) MongKok Computer Centre
> 2) Golden plaza Computer centre at Sum Sui Po
> 3) Another mall that located at the basement of Golden plaza.
>  
> From person two:
>  
>   Dunno about Akihabara, but I'd recommend going to the intersection of Yen
> Chow Street and Fuk Wa Street in Kowloon Provence (take the red line subway to
> Sham Shui Po; it's two blocks away). There's an entire city block devoted to
> computers and video games -- computers on the ground floor, video games on the
> floor above.
>  
>   There's a similar setup at Choi Street and Nelson Street; several stories
> selling video games and computer gear. Sorry I don't have any names, but I
> was only there for a week or so, and I only marked these places on the map
> with dots...  B-)
> 
> From person three:
> 
> Try Fuk Wah Street, Kowloon where yo can find lots of cheap-as-chips goodies!
> For pirate stuff or whatever, try our well-known Golden Building which 
> located nearby(basement is recommended!)
> 
> 
> ======================================================================
> 
> Some of these descriptions might be "overlapping", but I have no
> HK map here now to check that.
> 
> -- 
> Antti Karttunen       --  $B%"%s%C%F%#!!%+%k%C%H%%%M%s(J
> karttu@mits.mdata.fi  --  Whatever comes naturally.

Yes , you are right, some of them are overlapped. But don't worry, all of the 
malls are on subway route and very easy to figure out the location.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: akwy@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Alan Kin Wah YIM)
Subject: Current situation in Golden Shopping Ctr
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:17:37 GMT

When some people here are discussing about the hi-end computers and
software in HK, I'd like to say that the pirate commercial applications
are no longer available in Golden Shopping Ctr. You can still obtain
pirate games and Chinese software, but not other applications. This
situation has already started from the beginning of this year. And last
week my friends in HK told me the situation was still the same.

Could any netters in HK confirm this? And any comments?

In addition, now a 486-33 system only need around HK$10000 (include 1.2M
& 1.44 floppy, 120M hard-drive, and HI-Color SVGA with monitor). A 386-40
with the above config only need around HK$8000. It's about 20% cheaper
than that in the beginning of this year. May be it's because the PC software
market in HK is now only limited to the original packages.
 
Alan of HKPGCS.
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From: kbs@ccr-p6.ccr.jussieu.fr (An OCR-IP fan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re:telnet to CPHK and HK tid?
Date: 26 Jul 92 20:59:14 GMT
Organization: Universites P. & M. Curie / D. Diderot

>In article <1992Jul23.203948.2715@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au>, u2116318@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:
>> Anyone know how can I telnet to CPHK?
>> I have a friend who studied in CPHK
>> and he has a vax account, I can send 
>> mail to him use the internet address
>> cphkvx.cphk.hk, but I can't login to 
>> my friends account using telnet
>> 
>> anyone know what's the problem?

Well may be. I have an account in the UK, thus I know the
password for it.
But I couldn't connect myself to the U*ix system because
the sysadmin has blocked people from telneting or "padding"
from the outside world to the system. Therefore, I've asked
him and he gave me access.
Then, it is possible that the sysadmin of your friend has the
power to block people intrusion in the system, by telnet for example.
And it is not because it's a Vax you can't telnet 'coz from the UK
I could telnet a Vax machine in France. 
So may be ask your friend to question his sysadmin.

AND THIS IS A QUESTION TO ALL NETTERS,

I HAVE A FRIEND IN HK
AND I'D LIKE TO CONTACT HER. AND BY MAIL IT'S GETTING EXPENSIVE!
SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO MAKE HER HAVING A TEMPORARY ID FOR THE
SUMMER IN ONE OF THE VARIOUS HIGHER EDUCATION SCHOOL IN HK
WHICH HAVE INTERNET ACCESS?

THANKS FOR ANY SUGGESTIONS AND/OR ADVICE,

=========================================================
Jean-Baptiste SU

" Because the sage always confronts difficulties,
  he never experiences them " -- Lao Tzu

e-mail: kbs@ccr.jussieu.fr
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=========================================================
Jean-Baptiste SU

" Because the sage always confronts difficulties,
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,rec.arts.sf.movies
From: stevew@helios.unl.edu (Steve Wu)
Subject: Re: Are there any Hong Kong SF movies?
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:10:09 GMT

yung@r-node.gts.org (Amos Yung) writes:

>That was exactly the one that I was refering to. Fiction all the way, 
>science it was not. Ail Hon doesn't even know what a Black Hole is, how
>can you expect him to write any semi-coherent *science* fiction?

  You are over honoring Ail Hon. His knowledge about science is not
more then a F3 student. But on the other hand, I guess not everyone
knows what a black hole is--like do we know the surface radiation of a
black hole? what is the singular point? what is the augular momentant
and things like these.  (Don't ask me, I don't even know what I am
talking about, since I don't know about black hole)

  steve
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                       |=|   \    /   |=| the sky...   Smoke on the water.
stevew@hoss.unl.edu    |=|     \/     |=|     (36 bars guitar solo)
		      Deep purple, the best
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: isc30189@nusunix2.nus.sg (CHAN SIU FUNG)
Subject: Greeting from Singapore
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:35:27 GMT
From: tcheung@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Tak Cheung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: HKer's opinion on U.S. election
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:44:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Yes, I think U.S. has a very good "world president", i.e. Bush but I think
he does not know how to deal with domestic problems.  Yes, he can blame
the Congress and to certain degree he is correct.

I hold a very dim view of this country (U.S.), don't get me wrong that I
don't like the U.S., I still think this country has tremendous potential
warts and all, but it is still a young country.  I just hope someone who
can really lead be in the White House.  There are just too many powerful
special interest groups to influence policy making.  

I once mentioned to a colleague of mine saying that a dictator should
be good for this country but the closest we got was Ross Perot look
where he is now.

Oh, well, I guess maybe it takes someone who's born here to understand
these things, like most Americans will never understand Asia.

BTW, Steve, that was pretty good translation, more power to you.

T. K. Cheung
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
From: whleung@bcarh466.bnr.ca (Wai-Hung Leung)
Subject: Re: some pocket money available 
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 19:40:31 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.133824.11213@news.columbia.edu> plaul@engr.latech.edu  writes:
>
>
>NO I am not offering any quick get rich scheme.
>
>This is an offer to make some  extra pocket money while attending school.
>
>
>What you have to do is to put up posters at various locations around campus.  
>These posters are for an Investment Challenge, [...]

[rest deleted]

This is the *third* time I have seen this in schk, among other
soc.culture groups.  It is getting to the point where I have
to follow-up to it.

1) What does this post have to do with any of the cultures
   in the list of newsgroups?

2) What is it so important that it has to appear 3 times and
   possibly more to waste network bandwidth?

The point here (in case you haven't got it) is that there are
more appropriate groups to post your "offer".  Posting here
once was not too irritating, but repeatedly post it more often 
than schk's FAQ is ridiculous.  Remember, if I want to look 
for a job, I don't look at schk, I look at misc.jobs.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: Kenny Chan
Subject: Job opportunity in Hong Kong
Keywords: Job
Reply-To: atccoop@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 14:26:19 GMT

I planned to work in Hong Kong after graduation in 1994. I am an electrical
engineering student and would like to know the current job market in HK. (e.g.
salary range, oppprtunities, suggestion.....) I also plan to find a 93 summer
job in Hong Kong in order to gain some local experience. Know any company which
has coop program? Any help and suggest is appreciated!

Kenny Chan

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,rec.games.video
From: karttu@mits.mdata.fi (Antti Karttunen)
Subject: Electronics/videogame stores in Hong Kong. (SUMMARY)
Summary: Kind of.
Organization: MITS, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 22:46:46 GMT

 
I recently asked here about good places in Hong Kong to purchase for the
electronics/video games/computers/etc. I got three answers in mail,
and here's a sort of summary of them. Well, I don't know whether
it's good idea to tell the names of the persons mailing privately,
so I have replaced their names with numerals instead. Anyway, much
thanks to them all!
 
From person one:

There are certain shopping malls that sell the electronics and videogames. 
They are :
 
1) MongKok Computer Centre
2) Golden plaza Computer centre at Sum Sui Po
3) Another mall that located at the basement of Golden plaza.
 
From person two:
 
  Dunno about Akihabara, but I'd recommend going to the intersection of Yen
Chow Street and Fuk Wa Street in Kowloon Provence (take the red line subway to
Sham Shui Po; it's two blocks away). There's an entire city block devoted to
computers and video games -- computers on the ground floor, video games on the
floor above.
 
  There's a similar setup at Choi Street and Nelson Street; several stories
selling video games and computer gear. Sorry I don't have any names, but I
was only there for a week or so, and I only marked these places on the map
with dots...  B-)

From person three:

Try Fuk Wah Street, Kowloon where yo can find lots of cheap-as-chips goodies!
For pirate stuff or whatever, try our well-known Golden Building which 
located nearby(basement is recommended!)


======================================================================

Some of these descriptions might be "overlapping", but I have no
HK map here now to check that.

-- 
Antti Karttunen       --  $B%"%s%C%F%#!!%+%k%C%H%%%M%s(J
karttu@mits.mdata.fi  --  Whatever comes naturally.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: 11who@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: Van Yeh wanted by Grace H.
Summary: Lost cotacting with a person named Van Yeh
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:42:15 GMT

Sorry that I have to use this newsgroup......

I am looking for Van Yeh.  Do you know who he is?  If so, please give me
his Email address.  I failed to send him Emails by addressing 
yyvan@merlin.lerc.nasa.gov.  I'll be very appreciate if you can help me.

Thanks!

Van, if you are reading this, please send Email soon.
From: kuan@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu (Victor Kuan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: HK Growth rate (was: Re: Problem of 1997?!)
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:09:46 GMT
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington

In article <76006@ut-emx.uucp> onlit@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (K2-2nd on Earth) writes:
>In article <1992Jul15.211149.7041@wuecl.wustl.edu> yl2@cec2.wustl.edu (Yu-fung Liu) writes:
>>.... 
>[..stuff deleted..]
>This is very very ridiculous.  I don't think George Bush is smarter than Ronald
>Reagan.  HK had one of the most "socialised" health care systems one can find.  
>Yet HK has been very capitalistic.  
>
>I remember reading an article which compared the cost of medical care and the
>average life span of people in several countries, including Japan, England, 
>Canada and USA.  While USA topped the cost list, it has the lowest average life
>span.  Shame on you, Bush.
>
>Andrew 

	IMHO, I think that high health care is just one of the factor which
	contributes to the low average life span (US). The social infract-
	structure is one of the big one... look how many people in US died
	because of AIDS (tops the world in this matter)




-- 
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Indiana State Board of Tax Commissioners  kuan@prism.ucs.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung)
Subject: Re: The name of book about China culture
Organization: Tandem Computers
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:35:55 GMT

sonford@milton.u.washington.edu (Sonford Yuen) writes:
|> The name of the book in my translation is:
|> The Fundamental Structure of China Culture.
|> (Chung Kwok Mum Fai Dig Sum Tsung Git Kau)

I think "Sum Tsung Git Kau" should be translated into Deep Structure
instead of fundamental structure. The concept of "deep structure"
within the chinese culture, I believed, was originally proposed by
the mainland chinese scholar Gum(gold) Kwun(watch) Tao(wavelet?),
whose little book Prosperity and Crisis (Hing Shing yu Ngai Gay)
has tremendously influenced the whole generation of young cultural
elites in mainland, and eventually led to events such as the
River Eulogy TV series (Gum is one of the advisors of the series
production team) and others which may be said as the "preparation
in thought" for the democratic movement in 89. Everyone who is
interested in understanding the chinese culture should read that
book.

|> The author is called Sun Lung Kei who is believed in Hamilton, Western
|> Ontario, Canada now.

I think when Sun wrote that book, he was with Stanford, may be a Ph.D.
student? Not sure.

|> The book is to point out the difference of the "basic design" of Chinese
|> with that of Western People.
|> The aim of this book, as the author says, is to establish a "sense of
|> individuals" in Chinese. Under Chinese culture, the "value" of
|> a being has to be fulfilled through a "realtionship": parents, friends
|> political leaders, and even through the society and the political party.
|> 
|> In fact, I introduce this book because even though it's such a "hardware"
|> academic book, its approach is indeed not boring and actually quite
|> intriguing.                        

Well, the book has some interesting points, but I think it is far from
academic. I always hope that Sun can rewrite the book in a more rigorous
and concise fashion, because I think the book contains too much "water"
and affects its impact. When I read the book (several years ago), I had
the strong impression that he had picked up the view of Gum but hadn't
given him much credit.

Steven
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        - Life's Little Instruction Book by H. J. Brown, Jr.

Xref: sparky soc.culture.hongkong:9114 rec.arts.sf.movies:5909
From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Are there any Hong Kong SF movies?
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:39:35 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

lhclin@watcgl.waterloo.edu (Louis Lin) writes:

>Since science fiction are not science anyway, it will be asking to much
>for a science fiction writing to know what a black hole is.  I guess
>science fiction writers only needs to have a blurr idea of a theory in
>science, and make (reasonable) speculation on it in order to write a novel.
>In case of Ail Hon, I think his problem is more with repetitive story line
>than unreasonable speculation.

>PS. I do not know what exactly a black hole is.  But I guess that is okay,
>    since neither do our top physicists.

Has anyone read anything by a guy named "Wong Yik?"  (not the singer)  
he started writing sci-fi several years ago--and they are pretty good.

I wonder if film-producers will ever bring this guy's work to the Big screen.

Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mkcman@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Marcus Man)
Subject: To our new governor Chris Patten 
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:41:46 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.125243.5479@jho.com>, john@jho.com (John Ho) writes:
> shlam@eng.ie.cuhk.hk (Alan S H Lam) writes:
> 
> 
> >Our new governor Chris Patten will visit our U. tomorrow.
> >He may read this news group.
> >Would you like to say something to him?
> 
> Dear Mr. Patten,
> 
> 	I hope you can use your influence to build a solid foundation
> to ensure the stability of Hong Kong after the turn over in 1997.
> 
> 	Thank you.
> 
> 
> -- 
> John Ho from Dallas, Texas USA. (john@jho.com)           - No news is bad news.

I agree your point. 
Dear Mr. Patten,

	I hope you can use your effort to improve the living standard of HKers
and more importantly, stabilize the economical and political shocks in the 
coming years.

	Thank you and good luck.

Marcus Man
U of waterloo, Ontario, Canada. (mkcman@cayley.uwaterloo.ca)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: setl@omilia.ee.mu.oz.au (Shane Tieng Se Lim)
Subject: Cambodia Week
Organization: Electrical and Electronic - University of Melbourne 
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:34:05 GMT


All Welcome !!!!!

			Cambodia Week
			-------------

Community Aid Abroad, Cambodian Students Society (Melbourne University) and the International Law Interest Group are organizing a week of events to celebrate Khmer culture, raise political awareness of Cambodia past and problematic future and fraise funds to help a Community Aid Abroad employed prosthetisist train Cambodians to make and fit false limbs.


The activities schedules are:

Monday 3 August 12:30 pm - 2:10 pm.
	A number of cultural events will  occur in the North Court (the main courtyard at Melbourne University)
	(1) Traditional Cambodian Dancers will dance for two sets of twenty minutes.
	(2) Cambodian food will be sold for two dollars a meal.
	(3) People (that included YOU !) wil dance to a modern Cambodian 
	    band.  To endure participation, we are holding a FREE 
	    Cambodian dancing class on Wednesday 29th July 1992.
	    This dancing class is held at the Rehearsal Room, 2nd floor
	    Union Building, at 5:30 pm, instructed by Shane Lim.
	(4) Cambodian artifacts will be displayed.
	(5) Brochures on the cultural and political history of Cambodia
	    will be distributed.

Tuesday 4 August 1:00 pm - 2:15 pm.
	A Cambodian speaker will discuss Kmher cultural and political history and the experience of Cambodian Refugees.

Wednesday 5 August 1:00 pm - 2:15 pm.
	Mark Deasey, from Quaker Service Australia worked in Cambodia for two and a half years (including running the English teaching program) and will discuss aid in Cambodian and the United Nations Peace Plan.

Thursday 6 August 1:00 pm - 2:15 pm.
	Senator Gareth Evans will discuss the United Nations Peace Plan, Australia's commitment to Cambodia and answer questions.

Thursday 6 August 7:00 pm
	The program will end with the Cambodian Benefit Gig. A number of Victorian bands will play either at the Buffet (Melbourne University) or the Empress Hotel, Fitzroy.
	(To be confirm on the location)

Regards,

	Shane Lim.


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From: s923257@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Chew Ming Ean)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Hong Kong Uni. Internet Address Wanted
Date: 30 Jul 92 07:49:02 GMT

Does anyone out there have the H.K uni Computer Science dept.
internet address??

Could you please be kind enough to answer.

Thanks
Ming