From: mengwong@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Meng Weng Wong)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Neuromancer, Count Zero and MLO: trailers
Date: 7 Nov 92 03:40:08 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


                         NEUROMANCER: THE MOVIE
				trailer

		   (Open with a view of the Matrix)

"Cyberspace.  A consensual hallucination experienced daily by billions.
A graphic representation of data abstracted from the banks of every computer
in the human system.  Lines of light ranged in the nonspace of the mind,
clusters and constellations of data. Like city lights, receding..."
(cut to fancy VR FX as Case burns data, play Orb's "Into the Fourth Dimension")
after ten seconds
Cut to shot of Molly in the coffin exposing her blades
Cut to Armitage, Case and Molly in the Hilton.
Armitage saying "you're too young to remember the war aren't you?"
Cut to shot of Freeside, Dix saying "you want you a paradise?"
Cut to landscape panorama of Sprawl (parallel to Blade Runner LA)
Cut to shot of Case entering the Chatsubo
Throw in a shot of a unicorn running through a forest,
to confuse Blade Runner analysts  :-)
Ratz saying "welcome, friend artiste"
Cut to a shot of Case in the arcade, approaches Linda Lee.
Cut to shot of Case talking to Neuromancer in his artificial beach.
Case to Neuromancer: "What's your name? A Turing's Code's not a name."
        Neuromancer: "Neuromancer"
Cut to shot of Molly in the T.A. Mansion w/ flechette gun.
Molly in T.A. Mansion "Hey Case, you listening?"
Cut to a shot of Case in the Matrix
        Case: "Dix, I want to look at an AI.  Any reason not to?"
        Dixie: "Not unless you got a morbid fear of death, no."
Cut to shot of Sense/Net riot, cut to shot of Panther Moderns
shot of Panther Moderns "Love you Cat Mother, looks go. Go. Go. Got it?"
(key black screen says starring, then cut to shot of Case punching deck, show
name of Case/actor, cut to shot of Molly going through Sense/Net building,
show name of Molly/actor, cut to shot of Armitage in Hilton, show name of
Armitage/actor, cut to shot of Finn in Metro Holografix, show Danny Devito,
cut to black with Neuromancer showing in red in fontstyle of Neuromancer
paperback rear cover)
Dix saying, "You gonna tell me I got a choice, boy?"

============================================================================
(keep reading, we have done the same for Count Zero and Mona Lisa Overdrive)

an interesting suggestion is to film the movie in Omnimax format, and
resize to fit normal movie screens, for normal showings.
(is this technically possible?)
this would then be feature-length movie filmed in Omnimax... a gimmick,
perhaps, but it would definitely add to the "classic" quality of Neuromancer.

of course, this is where Industrial Light and Magic can really come into
their own: have they the technology to *create* a character for a full-length
appearance, with motion, speech, etc.?  Walt Disney would be useful....

[cast which follows is a somewhat sketchy compilation of the suggestions
put forth recently.  Genuine apologies to those whose ideas are missed.
Credit is given at EOF.  This is not a repost.  There have been changes.]

                         CAST

Case                Nicholas Cage
                    River Phoenix
                    Gary Oldman
                    Brad Dourif
                    Michael Biehn (from Terminator)
                    Matt Dillon (Drugstore Cowboy)
                    Jeff Goldblum (The Fly)
                    Tim Roth (R&G are Dead, Reservoir Dogs)
         a quiet, desperate intensity: "Our profile says you're trying
         to con the street into killing you when you're not looking"(p.28)

Linda Lee           Juliette Lewis
                    Tia Carrere
                    Patsy Kensit
         Linda should be a kind of "everyman's desire", an apparition of
         perfection, who then gets corrupted.  In the audience, attendant
         emotions of loss, etc. are evoked.

Molly               Jennifer Jason Leigh
                    Winona Ryder
                    Linda Hamilton
                    Sharon Stone
                    Anne Parillaud (La Femme Nikita)
                    Laura Dern (Wild at Heart)
         Molly must not be beautiful along the same lines as Linda Lee.

Armitage            Paul Newman
                    Robert Redford
                    Rutger Hauer
                    Patrick Stewart (Capt. Picard from Star Trek: TNG)
                    Julian Sands
                    wouldn't Harrison Ford be totally ironic?
                    Adrian Lynn
                    Ray Liotta
                    Christopher Walken
                    Andy Garcia
                    Brian Dennehy
         "... the broad chest hairless and muscular, the stomach flat
         and hard.  Blue eyes so pale they made Case think of bleach."(p.27)
         ... blandly handsome blend of pop faces."(p.97)

Riviera             anonymous blonde pretty boy
                    Kiefer Sutherland
                    Lance Henrikson (Bishop from Alien)
         "He was very beautiful; Case assumed the features were the work
         of a Chiba surgeon. ...  The man's forehead was high and smooth,
         gray eyes calm and distant.  His nose, which might have been too
         nicely sculpted, seemed to have been broken and clumsily reset.
         The suggestion of brutality offset the delicacy of his jaw and the
         quickness of his smile.  His teeth were small, even, and very
         white." (p.97-98)

Maelcum             Larry Fishburne (Boyz in the Hood)
                    Ziggy Marley
Julius Deane        Alec Guinness - he's still alive y'know.
                    Donald Sutherland
                    Lance Henrikson (Bishop from Alien)
Finn                Danny DeVito (rather convincing as Penguin)
                    Joe Pesci
                    John Hurt
Dixie Flatline      Anthony Hopkins (typecasting from "Freejack")
                    Jack Nicholson
3jane               Drew Barrymore
        plain-vanilla movie beauty.
Wage                Steve Buscemi(Reservoir Dogs)
                    Mickey Rourke
                    Billy Baldwin
Lupus Yonderboy     Sean Penn
                    Alex Winter (Bill & Ted's series, Lost Boys)

Director            Ridley Scott
                    Cameron
Art Director        Syd Mead - A.D. for Blade Runner
                    HR Giger - creator of the Alien
                    Gibson
                    Burton - Batman Returns, Beetlejuice
                    Spike Lee
                    Anton Furst (oops, he's dead) - architecture for Batman
Script              Gibson (who else, heretic?)

Soundtrack candidates
- Meat Beat Manifesto, Orb, Opus III and/or 808 State
  i.e. any of the techno stuff (especially for cyberspace stuff)
- Geinoh Yamashirogumi (of Akira fame)
- Shamen for the international polyphonics
- Led Zeppelin (yeah, and Gibson's a closet TMNT cartoon fan)
- Utah Saints and Moby for techno
- Primal Scream and/or Happy Monday for Case's drug trips
- Shadowfax
- Ministry
- Iron Maiden - "brutality of Case's experiences in the Matrix"
- Depeche Mode
- Havoc

more comments from Cris:

        If Scott directs then the whole movie must not have the epic feel of
1492.  Rather, it should appear more like Black Rain in a Blade Runner setting.
There will be several shots of darkness similar to Blade Runner, with the only
bits of light coming in during the Freeside stay and/or Case's trip with
Neuromancer/Linda Lee.  I agree that there should be an emphasis on Linda being
the desire of everyman.  You would expect some special FX but this will mostly
be limited to cyberspace.  Brand name make big appearances like in Bladerunner.

        If James Cameron directs, then expect a lot of emphasis on the hi-tech
aspects as was done in Aliens and The Abyss.  The FX will go beyond cyberspace
and will probably include the Panther Moderns chameleon suits, the electronic
thunder of the arcade, and multiple explosions.

        Come to think of it, either director would employ a ton of special FX,
and expect ILM to make yet another breakthrough on the par of morphing (which
we'll definitely see in the cyberspace scenes.)

        One would *really* be intrigued by the combination of Scott's directing
and Spike Lee's cinematography, especially as portrayed in Do The Right Thing.
Such a combination shall never come to light, however, as the clash of egos
would eclipse any Hollywood scuffle that has come.

Ron Hogan sez: The director of photography for Do The Right Thing, was Eric
Dickerson of Juice fame.  If he were to be the D.P. of these films then the
"legendary clash of egos" would be nonexistent.
2nd idea, of somewhat quirkiness: What if Terry Gilliam were to handle this?

=============================================================================

                              COUNT ZERO

Silence - fade in view of Count Zero in the Matrix being killed by black ICE.
A voice rings out of nowhere and everywhere.
Angelique: "What are you doing? What are they doing to you?"
Count Zero: "Killing me killing me get it off get it off"
Angelique: "But it's a trick see?  You only think it's got you. Look."
Fade out - Fade in Conroy and Turner on the _Tsushima_
Conroy: "Silicon's on the way out, Turner.  Mitchell's the man who made
biochips work.  He's the man for monoclonals.  He wants out.  You and me,
Turner, we're going to shift him."
Fade out - Fade in Marly and Virek in Guell Park
Marly: "How long do I have to find this artist?"
Virek: "The rest of your life."
Fade out - Fade in Bobby in Two-A-Day's apartment with Rhea, Jackie, Beauvoir
and Two-A-Day.
Beauvoir: "Count Zero, they tell us that's your handle."
(Key Utah Saints "Tranceatlantic Flight.")
Cut to a shot of Turner with revolver pointed at Conroy's head.
Turner: "Maybe the shrinks screwed up, Conroy.  How about that?"
Conroy: "No, they didn't and you won't."
Cut to a shot of the shuttle heading for Ludgate's station.
Cut to a shot of Jammer's Apartment, Beauvoir pulls a riot gun out of the bag.
Beauvoir: "You ever see one of these?  South African, prewar. . ."
Cut to a shot of Angelique wired into Rudy's machinery at his place.
Sally: "Tongues"
Cut to a shot of Sally in a chair, same room, her cigarette a red-eye in the
dark.  Sally: "Talking in the tongues."
Cut to a shot of Rudy's modified hounds.
Cut to a shot of Jammer's apartment, Jammer strokes his deck
Jammer:  "Thing's ten years old, but it'll still wipe ass on most anything.
Guy by name of Automatic Jack built it from scratch."
Cut to a shot of the armored hover flying through the gas station as a black
Honda helicopter attempts to intercept.
Cut to a shot of Metro Holografix.
Finn: " Thrones and dominions.  Yeah, there's things out there. Ghosts, voices.
Why not?"
Fade out - Voiceover: "The people who brought you Neuromancer, bring you"
Fade in - Bobby burning through the Matrix on Jammer's deck
Cut to name of Bobby/actor.
Fade in - Marly having dinner with Alain.
Cut to name of Marly/actor.
Fade in - shot of Finn in Metro Holografix
Cut to "Danny Devito".
Fade in - shot of Turner flying the jet out of Maas as the site is vaporized
by a railgun
Cut to name of Turner/actor.
Cut to "Count Zero" shown in similar style to Neuromancer font/color.
Show credits.

Bobby Newmark       Brad Pitt
                    River Phoenix
                    Christian Slater
Angelique           Nicole Eggert
                    (blonde from Charles in Charge)
                    Drew Barrymore
                    Olivia D'Abo (from Wonder Years)
Beauvoir            Wesley Snipes
Jammer              Denzel Washington (Malcolm X)
Two-a-Day           Arsenio Hall
Turner              Mel Gibson
                    Matt Dillon
Jackie              Mary Stuart Masterson
Rhea                Robin Givens
Marly               Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio
                    Bridget Fonda
                    Winona Ryder (though at 21 she is a bit young)
Sally               Rene Russo (from Freejack and LW3)
Conroy              Rob Lowe
                    Alec Baldwin
Virek               Old villain guy from Lethal Weapon 2
                    Ben Kingsley
                    Anthony Hopkins (would be GREAT!)
                    Robert Duvall

============================================================================

                         MONA LISA OVERDRIVE

Fade in Slick walking through Dog Solitude
Fade out Fade in Kumiko taking the London tube
Fade out Fade in Mona walking through Florida
Fade out Fade in Angie in a production crew meeting
Key Primal Scream's "Slip Inside This House"
Cut to a shot of Slick and Bird in the Factory, the tell-tale of a laser
sight dancing on Bird's cheek as he aims a .22 rifle.
Slick:"Bird, don't!"
Fade in "The world was created with Neuromancer"
Fade in Kumiko staring at Swain's tatoos, her breakfast turning cold.
Sally: "Let her eat."
Pan to Sally standing at the other end of the room
Sally:  "My name's Sally, Sally Shears
Fade in "The gods entered in Count Zero."
Fade in Kumiko in Tick's flat.
Tick:"A few hours ago, this popped in."
Display of the enormous Aleph Sprawl construct
Cut to "Now"
Cut to shot of Sally guiding Kumiko through the Sprawl
Cut to "a new chapter"
Cut to Sally standing in front of Finn's wall.
"Finn?"
Cut to "Mona Lisa Overdrive."
Cut to a panorama of London as the JAL shuttle enters from sub-orbit
Cut to a shot of London Draculas confronting Kumiko and Colin
Cut to a shot of the Judge and Investigators
Cut to a shot of Angie in the beachhouse
Angie: "Continuity"
Continuity: "Hello, Angie"
Angie: "The folklore of the console jockeys, Continuity.  What do you know
about that?"
Continuity: "What do you want to know?"
Angie: "'When it Changed'. . ."
Cut to a shot of Mona in Gerald's office before the surgery.
Cut to a shot of Mona and Prior in Gerald's office after the operation,
looking at a mirror
Mona: "She's beautiful."
Prior: "That's you, Mona"
Cut to a shot of Gentry, Cherry and Slick clustered around Count Zero.
Gentry:  "Cherry, who is this?"
Cherry: "Afrika called him the Count."
Cut to a shot of Mona and Prior in the Baltimore Hotel
Mona: "Where's Eddy?"
Prior: "Eddy's gone, Mona."
Cut to a shot of Slick and Gentry in the factory
Slick: "Hey, Gentry.  Listen up.  That copter, it'll be back.  It'll be back
with two hovers full of guys.  They aren't after us, man.  They're after him
Cut to a shot of Porphyre's head
"his depilated skull displayed a symmetry unknown to nature"(pg.53)
Cut to darkness, fade in Mona Lisa Overdrive credits.  voice:
Finn:"be there in a manhattan minute."

Angelique           whoever lost out on the selection for Linda Lee
                    Patsy Kensit
Kimiko              anonymous Japanese prepubescent-type actress
her AI construct    Eddie Furlong (kid from T2)
Molly/Sally Shears  Molly from Neuromancer
Swain               Arnie <yeah, right he might be able to pull off the accent>
                    Dolph Lundgren
                    Jeremy Irons
Kumiko's father	    Ken Takakura (Black Rain and Mr. Baseball)
Petal               Sean Connery
Slick the semi-amnesiac - Michael Biehn
Little Bird         Patrick Dempsey
Gentry              Mickey Rourke
Kid Afrika          Spike Lee
Cherry the medtech  Geena Davis
                    Patsy Kensit
                    Amy Locane (blonde from Melrose Place)
      one gets really desperate for 20something actors/actresses at this point
Eddy Mona's Pimp/bfriend Andy Garcia
Tick Molly's Friend, British Cowboy    Daniel Day Lewis
                                       Tim Roth
                                       Billy Baldwin
Prior               Alan Rickman (Robin Hood:PoT and Die Hard)
                    Steve Buscemi

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"Casting Neuromancer" Credits to:

Eric 'Neorp' Miller                     millere@frith.egr.msu.edu
Jason Steiner                           jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu
Marvin Batty (D. Fulford-Brown)         djf@cch.cov.ac.uk
H.S.Doyle                               H.S.Doyle@newcastle.ac.uk
Jeff W Wilder                           wilder@mik.uky.edu
Ian Dickinson                           vato@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Stephanie Moskal Fysh                   sfysh@epas.utoronto.ca
Ron Hogan                               rhogan@usc.edu
Mark Peterson                           petersom@ucsu.colorado.edu
G T Clark                               gtclark@festival.ed.ac.uk
Robert Everett Brunskill                rb6t+@andrew.cmu.edu
no name, no .sig                        bda108@psuvm.psu.edu
andy (hawkeye) (freud on crack)         ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu

We are deeply regretful to those whom we missed, (insert officio-grovel)
but the Usenet is not your mother.

References to page numbers work with the softcover Ace edition with the
darkish purple, face/hand artwork on the cover.

please keep flames off the newsgroup, and direct them to either coauthor.

If you read this, and approve, please drop us a note.

Cris Concepcion - concepcion@babson.bitnet
Meng Weng Wong  - mengwong@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
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