HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rehir@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Hirokatsu Watanabe 432-2275)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: girl that dies in school gate
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:14:01 GMT
Organization: Harvard Medical School


  davev@bnr.ca (David Villeneuve) wrote:
>   I recall hearing about this from a JET Teacher around September
>   of 1989.  The story I heard was that the girl was late for school,
>   and the teachers were thought to have shoved the gate/door against
>   her to teach her a lesson.  

>   Hmmm. I hope this is not indicative of discipline in the Japanese
>   school system....

   Excuse me. You should mistake 'Totsuka Yacht School' or something
similar for it. This incident happened in 1990. It's not related to
discipline.
   Please read the following article from 'Asahi' English Newspaper.
 
TITLE: Teacher Submitted Report to Pref. Education Board
 
SOURCE:Asahi Evening News/July 19, 1990, Thursday
       COMLINE-AEN/No. 1
LOAD:  July 19, 1990, Thursday
WORDS:   325
 
BODY:
   The 39-year-old teacher who closed the heavy iron gate,
crushing to death 15-year-old Ryoko Ishida, a first-year student at
Takatsuka Senior High School in Kobe City on July 6, had submitted
a three-page handwritten report on the incident to the Hyogo Prefectural
Board of Education, it was learned Wednesday.
   According to the report, dated July 10, the teacher stood in front
of the school gate from around 8:25 a.m. on July 6, using a megaphone to
urge the students to hurry. He then moved to a position inside the gate.
   He prepared to close the gate at 30 seconds before 8:30 a.m. Looking
at his wristwatch, he began a countdown, "Ten, nine, eight..." He
shouted, "Five seconds to go. I'm going to shut the gate]" He explained
that he closed the gate when the chimes began to sound at 8:30 a.m.
   It is believed his voice was not heard by the students since
he was about 10 meters from the students trying to pass through the gate.
   As for what happened when Ishida was crushed, he wrote, "A
male student got his bag or foot caught between the gate
and wall but forcibly pulled it out and entered the school
grounds, so I pushed the gate against the wall. I went up to the
male student to tell him to go outside, when someone said,
'Teacher, she's bleeding]' and that was the first time I saw a
girl lying on the ground outside the gate."
   As for why he closed the gate with such force, he said that
once he had had the gate pushed back by students.
   Meanwhile, Ishida's parents Wednesday issued the following
comment through their lawyer, Isao Hiraguri, in Kobe: "To us as
parents, the killing was much too brutal and devastatingly tragic.
The school's reponsibility for the accident is clear, and we feel
deep anger."
   The parents have not left their home, the father not going to
work, still in shock.
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From: Jean_Lemire@mindlink.bc.ca (Jean Lemire)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: need Japanese word processor
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:28:40 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

I found Hongbo Data Systems (Japanese word processor for DOS) E-mail address
and here it is:

Hongbo Ni     p8770786@aix00.csd.unsw.OZ.AU
Hongbo Ni     87P0786@CSDVAX.CSD.UNSW.EDU.AU

Hope this helps you...

Jean Lemire
Asia Pacific Management Cooperative Program
Vancouver, B.C.
GEnie: J.Lemire
Mindlink: Jean_Lemire@mindlink.bc.ca
From: bam@bnr.ca (Bruce Matsugu 1629654)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Seat blocking on flights in Japan
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:47:56 GMT
Organization: bnr


Hmm, what about someone in Japan buying a airline ticket
for me for Narita-Fukuoka, or Haneda-Kagoshima, and then
sending to me via courier or special delivery mail?

Which brings up the question, what are airfares like in Japan?
Specifically, Tokyo to Kyushu?  Other than JAL, I know of
ANA and JAS for domestic flights.

- - - - - - - - 
In my previous post, I said something about foreigners being
blocked from seat reservations for flights inside Japan.  What I
really meant was for international flights arriving in Japan, it
is currently impossible to book a connecting flight to somewhere else
in Japan for the month of December.  For my proposed return flight, 
there was no problem booking my flight from Fukuoka-Narita-Toronto-
Ottawa on Jan. 13-14.
---
Bruce Matsugu   --- my submissions are my opinions; BNR and NT are innocent!
Bell Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
---
Please don't email to me because I can only post and read Usenet.
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: girl that dies in school gate
Date: 29 Sep 1992 22:18:15 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

So, was the gate hand- or electric-powered?  I say bid 7 that it was hand-
powered and 3 that it was electric.
From: ricko@ee.uts.edu.au (Rick Jelliffe)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese Censorship & Violence against Women
Date: 1 Oct 92 07:43:56 GMT
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
NNTP-Posting-Host: schutz.ee.uts.edu.au

farant@terapin.com (Faran Thomason) writes:

>Some one said that Americans can buy "Chaisn & Whips" magazines at Us
>newstands. Actually I don't think that there is many "mainstream" porn that
>deals with bondage/S&M especially in US videos--unless you search for material
>us porn(in the 90's) is "non-violent. However, just recently saw Japanese porn
>that involved rape/and bondage together!!! I am a pretty jaded film fan and
>this startled me. 

>My question is Why are Japanese censors prudish in the showing of genetaila but
>Ultra Liberal on the sexually-violent subject matter ???

I read somewhere that much bondage porn only emerged in the 40's and
50's because of censorship: because normal things could not be 
shown, the business showed rather ridiculous, but actually quite chaste,
depictions of bondage and leather which suggested unspeakable and 
tantalising naughtiness without ever making it clear exactly where 
the fun could come from (It escapes me!)..

In doing so they popularized a tiny perversion into a mass one, as
the next generation grew up sexually habituated to these images.

-ricko
From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk (R Clement)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese Censorship & Violence against Women
Date: 1 Oct 92 09:27:24 GMT
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
Originator: ross-c@csparc12

In article <7307@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
>=> Eruption were complete hardcore I assume these are ILLEGAL in Japan. Does
>=> anyone know what countries these were inteneded for or are they sold on the
>=> Black Market ??
>
>There apparently is such a Black Market in Japan. However, the modified

There are unmodified porn videos in Japan. I have been shown one (not that
I make a habit of watching Porn videos). It was made in Japan.

Cheers,

Ross-c
From: celliott@bbn.com (Chip Elliott)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Affordable Tatami?
Keywords: tatami
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:58:54 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com


Hi!

I'd like to buy some tatami -- cheaply. I live in the
northeastern US but would be happy to get it by freight.
When in Taiwan, my wife and I had some Taiwanese tatami
mats which cost about $15 apiece, and were quite nice.
We hope we can do the same thing again...

Does anyone have any suggestions for how I can find
anything here in the US?

Many thanks indeed,

-- Chip Elliott

Chip Elliott                   UUCP:     {backbone}!bbn!celliott
BBN Systems and Technologies   INTERNET: celliott@bbn.com
Cambridge, MA 02238            

Chip Elliott                   UUCP:     {backbone}!bbn!celliott
BBN Systems and Technologies   INTERNET: celliott@bbn.com
Cambridge, MA 02238
From: hash@ikarac5.ctrl.saitama-u.ac.jp (Toshihiko Hashimoto)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: What time do people wake up in Japan?
Date: 5 Oct 92 07:14:03 GMT
Organization: Araki Lab., Electronic Engineering, Saitama Univ., Japan

In article <1anmk8INNh9@network.ucsd.edu> mbh@sdphu1.ucsd.edu (Matt Harrington) writes:
>I'm curious about what time people wake up in Japan.  More specifically,
>when do students wake up?  How about workers or businessmen?
The time people wake up deeply depends on the distance
from their house to the office or school also here 
in Japan.  Talking about students, I think we can wake
up latter than the works or businessmen, because it
is a lot easier for Japanese students to graduate 
university without hard studying and perfect attendace 
at classes than for those in the US.

>On the other side of the coin, when do people go to sleep?  And, what
>time do people start work or classes?
Some go to sleep early, and some late.  Depends.
Most of schools or companies begin around 8:30-9:00.

>I'm asking because when I was in Europe last year, I noticed that the
>Japanese tourists woke up very early.
It's curious!  Many Japanese tourists tend to visit
as many places as they can while they are traveling
abroad.  It seems silly.  That is cuased from the
expensive costs to travel abroad.

Toshi
-- 
Hashimoto Toshihiko <<Dept. of Electronic Engineering, Saitama University>>
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: k3amichi@student.business.uwo.ca (Kentaro Nakamichi)
Subject: Re: Fine for Jumping in front of a Train
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 04:34:24 GMT

In response to a question as to fines to be paid by the family of someone 
who commits suicide by jumping in front of a train:

I don't know the specifics but I think that there is a fee schedule set 
up with payment based on the number of people inconvenienced and the 
amount of time it takes to get the trains going again.  In a country 
where train service is vital, and there is a reputation for being on 
schedule (to the minute), everyone gets upset if there are disruptions 
(although I have seen a fair number of delays on the Shinkansen due to 
foul weather). 

k3amichi@student.business.uwo.ca (Kentaro Nakamichi)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Violence against women....
Date: 29 Sep 92 05:08:47 GMT
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center

In article <Bv4Bn7.MH8@world.std.com> cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond) writes:
>masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:

>>    I'd interpret Mr. Lambert's example in a different way.
>
>>    If Mike Tyson had invited that Japanese woman to his room, she would not
>>have accepted. Therefore, no rape. She might have accepted if she had agreed
>>to have, uh, an intimate relationship with him. That would be a consensual
>>relationship. Therefore, no rape. Hence, no rape in Japan vs. one rape in the 
>>US.

>Masuda-san
>
>  You have made an error here that clearly shows a subconscious 
>discriminatory atitude. Your statements in fact show an acceptance
>of forced sex that you will probably be horrorfied to recognize.
>You have effectively taken the position that once the girl has been
>manuvered into the bedroom that she has consented. This is not true!

Richmond-san;  

   I don't think I have expressed any of my attitude in my previous posting.
What I described was an interpretaion of the Japanese woman's attitude.
I'm afraid that you're erroneously applying my words to women in general. 

>Tonight I was visited by a Nihonjin female acquaintance (I have only seen
>this woman 4 times). During the course of the evening , she was at one
>time in my bedroom with me and even sitting on my bed. That is irrelevent.
>She did not wish to have sex, neither did I as I am interested in her as a
>friend. If I had forced her to have sex it would have been rape.

   Where did it happen? In Japan? Then, no rape in Japan again 8-).
In the US? Then, possibility of one more rape in the US 8-).
   Seriously, this story shows how gentlemanly Richmond-san is, and how lucky
the Japanese lady was, but not more than that.
The lady might be convinced that it's not dangerous to sit on a bed with
a gentleman who she saw only 4 times. Next time, a gentleman's name could be
Tyson. 
   
> The key
>is the word "force". It should not be the woman's responsibility if the
>man uses force, or if the man uses his superior position in the company.
>The woman is prudent to avoid dangerous situations but the man's actions
>are his responsibility and he can not force his will... that is rape.

   If the man grabs her arm and force her into the bedroom, that is 
definitely rape. If the man creates a situation that the woman cannot say,
"No", that is rape as well.
   However, there are cases where the woman can make a voluntary choice between
"yes" and "no". Some of those who choose "yes" might confront with the 
situation that those who choose "no" would not have to. I believe that most
women are smart enough to understand this possibility and that they could and
should be responsible for their choice at least to some extent.

   By saying all these, I'm afraid that I'm getting rid of potential 
female friends who I can have a nice conversation with in my bedroom 8-).

Michiaki Masuda
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Mr. Baseball (Again!)
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 16:30:49 GMT

In article <1aft44INN9f0@agate.berkeley.edu> lindaa@sooth.Berkeley.EDU (Linda Absher) writes:
>I've been watching some of Tom Selleck's interviews re "Mr. Baseball"
>and I'm amazed at his rather one-sided view of Japan.  He keeps saying
>(I've seen him on a few of the entertainment "news" show) that the Japanese
>people on the streets treated him as if he were a monster, pulling their
>children away as he walked by.

Depends on where you are. I noticed I got a VERY different reception in
Kawasaki than in Tokyo. But in small cities/towns where they're relatively
used to seeing foreigners (eg, Suzuka), you're pretty much ignored.

>Since he's pretty much told the same story in every show, I suspect he's
>got a hidden agenda for his statements (he's very republican...).

Uh, it's hard to see what his hidden agenda would be. Not take sides publically,
but the most vocal "Japan-bashers" in Congress are Democrats.

>I know he was featured as the Marlboro Man in Japanese commercials so I
>would think someone recognized him.  I'm also sure he walked around with
>an entourage (?), so I'm sure that was intimidating to some.

f he's like most foregin actors in Japan, he probably had one interpretor
and one or two other companions. Hardly noticeable, really.

>What I'm getting at is that I think he feels he's tapping into an 
>anti-Japanese sentiment to pull audiences into his movies; the previews
>do show Japanese in a less than glowing light (Selleck spitting and sar-
>castically thanking the coach for being an inspiration after the coach
>Yells at him in Japanese).  Does anyone know if Selleck has made anti-
>Japanese comments before?

I think you're reading FAR too much into that. It's not uncommon outside of
the larger cities for parents to "protect" their kids from obvious foreigners.
And my best friend in Japan had people react that way to him even in Tokyo:
he's from the Ivory Coast, attending Law school on a (Japanese) government 
scholarship. I heard one man pull his daughter aside and say "Say away from
him. Black people are very dangerous."

Mike
-- 
Disclaimer - I'm only doing what the little voices tell me to do. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tanaka@til.til.com (Yokichi Tanaka)
Subject: Re: Mr. Baseball (Again!)
Organization: Togai InfraLogic, Inc.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 00:14:51 GMT

In article <1agjq0INNe07@agate.berkeley.edu>, robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:
|> The 4ner complex--I can testify for that.  As a young man walking alone,
|> when I enter stores or restaurants, I do notice that people seem kind of 
|> defnsive.  It was like the treatment I would get in the US were I a 
|> black man doing the same thing.

Huh?  I think the primary reason why sales people or waitresses
may shy away from foreigners is because he/she thinks his/her English
isn't good enough and doesn't want to make a fool of him/herself in
front of his/her co-workers.  Not out of hatred or racism, but just
the fear of embarrassment.  Embarrassment is a great motivator in
Japan.  Nihon = "haji no shakai"

|> One time in Kanda, Tokyo, a woman did 
|> clearly run from me into a parking lot building,

Are you sure she was running from you because you were a foreigner?
I find that very hard to believe ... especially in Tokyo.  Maybe
you looked like Tom Selleck, and seeing you reminded her that 
Magnum PI was coming on in a few minutes.  Maybe it was that
blood-stained knife you were carrying. :-)  People in most parts
of Tokyo no longer are startled at the sight of a foreigner ...
if you were, they'd think you were an "inaka-mono".  On the
other hand, I can believe that small kids may hide from foreigners,
or for that matter anyone they don't know.  My daughter does that.

|> and another time in Kanda,
|> the hotel told me that there's no bathing facilities in the hotel (and
|> there turned out to be an onsen in the basement).
|> 

This is somewhat more plausible.  It could be that a) they thought
foreigners wouldn't know the proper way to use a communal bath
... wash outside before entering bath ... in which case, you
shouldn't return there again (and tell all your friends about
it), or b) they took your question to mean "is there a bathing
facility in my room".

I've received funny looks when I was in small towns in Tennessee
and Utah.  I didn't think much of it.  I think they were amused
to see an Oriental in their neck of woods.

Just my 2 cents worth.
-- 
Yoke (Yokichi) Tanaka      Togai InfraLogic, Inc.    "fuzzy"
tanaka@til.com             Irvine, California, USA
uunet!til!tanaka           714-975-8522
In case you're wondering ... I am male.
"The more you drive, the less intelligent you are."
From: ccavers@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Cam Cavers)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Mr. Baseball (Again!)
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 92 18:30:00 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Just out of curiousity, do any other of the North Americans here (besides me)
remeber being scared by people who appear very different than what they are
used to? (when you were a kid, or even now...)

For example, if a bearded biker-type gets on a bus, a lot of adults will shy
away from him; the children are usually split between those who are scared, and
those who will ask him about his tattoos. I think people judge others on
appearance too much, but it really can't be helped.

(I hope to visit Japan someday (when this university thing is done with) and
maybe even teach over there. Obviously, I am a little concerned how children
will react when they see a 6 foot 4 inch white guy standing in front of
them...:) )

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,sci.lang.japan
Subject: Information about Tests/Exams for Language Proficiency
From: yan-dicky@CS.YALE.EDU (Dicky Yan)
Date: 28 Sep 92 09:36:32 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.japan
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Apparently-To: comp-research-japan@uunet.uu.net
Status: R

Hi, does any one know of any test/exam given in the U.S. that will certify
proficiency in spoken and written Japanese? Or any qualifications one can
study for? 

I am only interested in programs that concentrate on the language, but not
history, literature etc. Thank you. Please e-mail all response. 

D. Yan.
e-mail address: yan-dicky@cs.yale.edu [internet]
                yan-dicky@yalecs      [bitnet]

Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: Mon,  5 Oct 1992 01:08:04 -0400 
From: "Prakash S. Gulrajani" <pg27+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re : Japan Central League

I am not a Giants fan but you said the hopes of Giants clinching the
pennant was "dashed".  What do you mean?  What Is Tiger's magic number?

                                                                        Kuppy
From: joganic@cs.arizona.edu (John E. Joganic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Mr. Baseball (Again!)
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:17:50 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <P9a6RB3w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> ccavers@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Cam Cavers) writes:

>(I hope to visit Japan someday (when this university thing is done with) and
>maybe even teach over there. Obviously, I am a little concerned how children
>will react when they see a 6 foot 4 inch white guy standing in front of
>them...:) )

Depends on the kids; I was standing on train platform with 40 kindergarten kids
going on a field trip... One kid walked up, tugged on my shorts, pointed up
(I'm only 6 feet tall), and said "SUGOI GAIJIN DA!!!"

Colloquial translation: "Jeez, check this dude out!"

-----------------------------
John Joganic
joganic@caslon.cs.arizona.edu
-----------------------------
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: ricko@ee.uts.edu.au (Rick Jelliffe)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: What time do people wake up in Japan?
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:33:08 GMT
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
NNTP-Posting-Host: schutz.ee.uts.edu.au

mbh@sdphu1.ucsd.edu (Matt Harrington) writes:

>I'm curious about what time people wake up in Japan.  More specifically,
>when do students wake up?  How about workers or businessmen?

In Japan, everyone wakes up at 7:45 am.

>On the other side of the coin, when do people go to sleep?  And, what
>time do people start work or classes?

People generally do not sleep on coins in Japan. Those that do
generally get to sleep later than people with futons or beds.
Everyone starts work at 10:36am.

>I'm asking because when I was in Europe last year, I noticed that the
>Japanese tourists woke up very early.

This is because Europeans coins are even more uncomfortable than the 
yen, after allowing for inflation.

-ricko
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,sci.lang.japan
From: htanabe@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Subject: AX USERS, READ!!!
Keywords: ax keyboard windows dosv drivers japanese kanji ibmpc
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 17:52:59 GMT

I might have asked you before, but I'm looking for a Windows driver for 
AX keyboard.   I have an AX keyboard(yes,just the k.b.. Don't ask me why)
with DOS/V and Win/J.  DOS 5.02/V supports AX k.b., but Win/J doesn't.
I have the driver for US k.b., but it confuses me all the time.

PLEASE, ANYBODY, HELP ME!!!

thanks.


Hisaharu@North Texas