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From: tankgirl@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Tank Girl)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Tank Girl Movie (also was Re: Krypton's moons?)
Date: 26 Aug 92 07:08:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University

In <1992Aug25.233107.1@cgsvax.claremont.edu> carterk@cgsvax.claremont.edu writes:

>Speaking of this, does anyone have more news about the Tank Girl movie? At last
>report, they were still looking for a script, and I'm wondering whether it's
>still worth working up a pitch.

they're gonna make a movie about lil ol' ME?  wow, i knew my exploits on that
couch at purdue with xibo were popular, but not THAT popular (note:  THIS IS
SARCASM).

if you've forgotten what they were already, FINE.  ftp fido.econ.arizona.edu,
cd pub, get Xibo.Vacation.txt, lpr your printer of choice, and go get stinking
drunk.  it reads better that way.

-tank girl
"it'll give you something to read while waiting for sandman #43"

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From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Portacio
Date: 22 Aug 92 03:10:11 GMT
Organization: Victoria University of Technology

levin6706@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

>> His run on X-Factor produced the best storyline on that
>> book (Yakuza cybernetic thingo) and I'm wondering what
>> other stuff he has pencilled. I got Legion of the Night
>> #1 and #2 but nothing else came out. Does anybody know
>> what happened with it? It's very hard to find out this
>> sort of stuff in Australia and we have less fanboys.


>        Like I said, I saw him on Punisher, but I'm not that familiar with much
>else.  And BTW, Legion of the Night was a two issue limited series that was
>supposed to be the launching ground for Marvel's horror line.  So you got them
>all.

The story didn't really make too much sense to me. Maybe
its just that I got issue 2 and three months later got
issue one.

Jed
From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: The Hacker Files
Keywords: DC, Hacker FIles
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:54:38 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <1992Sep3.040100.22967@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com> booga@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com (Steve Jankowski) writes:
>In article <tbs.715367511@login.dkuug.dk>, tbs@login.dkuug.dk (Torben B. S|rensen) writes:
>>The Hacker Files by Lewis Shiner seems to be the first comic book devoted
>>solely to hacking and computers. Does anybody know if there has been any 
>>reaction from the "hacker society" (programmers, companies, others).

>I can't speak for a whole society, but after reading the first two issues,
>I had to be embarrassed.  The art was bad, the plot was disjoint, and the
>lead character seemed a bit stupid.  (note that it's been cut back to a
>limited 12 issue run)

I must be The Last Tom Sutton Fan On Earth, because I liked the art a lot.
(I think Sutton was the best GrimJack artist during that series' run.)

I found the plot solid, but simplistic.

As far as I know, the series has been planned as a 12-issue series all along.

-- 
Michael Rawdon	    rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu  [Note new address!]
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

"It's a summer of existence and the fall of pain."
					- Men Without Hats
From: danfrank@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Daniel Frank)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: The Care and Feeding of Comics
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:26:45 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Aug23.035516.20190@cactus.org> ortega@cactus.org (Paul Ortega) writes:
>>In article <77858@ut-emx.uucp> cwagner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christian Wagner) writes:
>>>
>>>Who else has a complete run (or just a load of issues) of a particular title
>>>that will never be worth a damn thing (at least from a monetary standpoint),
>>>but that you've kept anyway?
>>>
I've got a complete run of Howard the Duck which includes B&W mags, movie
adaptation, and a crossover or two. Funny enough, HTD partially
got me back into comix.
I also have the complete Ambush Bug including his first appearance in 
a DC Presents with Doom Patrol, one with the Legion of Substitute Heros,
his appearance in a Supergirl mag, his three appearances in Action and
his own teamp-up with Supes in DC Presents.
I have the complete DC Challenge and am currently collecting any appearance of
Captain Strong (the Popeye parody) in Superman comics.
-- 
:     Daniel Frank    danfrank@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu           :
:Moe's angry question, which always precedes one of his     : 
:violent episodes, is the question of all existentialist men:
:demanding meaning from a void, "Hmmm, a wise guy, huh?" The:
:only response - from the void that is Curly - is the tragic:
:"Nyuck! Nyuck! Nyuck!"---trend book quoted in _Spy_ 3/91   :
From: rji@nyquist.cs.nott.ac.uk (Rob Ingram)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: The Trouble with SANDMAN (was Re: Unrepentant Heresy About To Be...)
Date: 1 Sep 92 11:19:26 GMT
Organization: Communications Research Group

In article <17tl99INNdbl@hal.com>, dougm@hal.com (Doug Moran) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug30.034607.13930@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, conty@cbnewsl (Conty III) writes:
|> >In article <IebsLxq00awN80zFoO@andrew.cmu.edu>, Jason Lee Smith <js06+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
|> >> 	Also, I think Death is one of the stupidest characters ever created.
|> >
|> >I think I see where you're coming from.  The last thing you'd expect to meet
|> >after you die is a young girl who dresses like a punk Madonna-wannabe and
|> >has a thing for floppy hats.  Personally, I find Gaiman's interpretation of
|> >Death to be at the very least a refreshing change from the usual parade of
|> >scythe-wielding skull-headed robe-wearers.
|> 
|> I would go even farther than Enrique, and say that this is one of the
|> best reinterpretations of the personification of death that I have ever
|> seen.  Why *not* a woman in black jeans and tank top with an ankh (an
|> ankh!  Death wears a symbol of life; I love it) hanging around her neck?
|> Who has a sense of humor, pet goldfish, and never keeps her house clean?
|> 
|> And I think she looks more like Michelle Shocked than a Madonna-wannabe,
|> personally.  Hey, call me crazy. . .
|> -- 

Hold on, Death is a goth, not a punk and definitely not a Madonna or
Michelle Shocked wannabe.


			Rob.


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|  "Hang loose kid!"    | University of Nottingham                            |
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From: leo@remarque.berkeley.edu (Leo Pereira)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Comics as entertainment
Date: 1 Sep 1992 19:49:05 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: net
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Sep1.160502.7376@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty III) writes:
>
>It's never great.  It's mind candy, and nothing more.  You can have mighty
>chewy mind candy, but candy it still is.  And I don't know about you, but
>I'd like to have the mental equivalent of a garden salad or Satay beef
>every once in a while.
>			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y

Why the denigration of mind-candy?
If a piece of work (art, music, comics, Republican National Convention)
provides one with a moment's respite from the *perceived* horror of
one's existence, it has served some purpose. Although the RNC probably
increased the dread, but then again some of us actually enjoy glimpses 
into the depths of perdition.

So you prefer with some frequency - "the mental equivalent of a 
garden salad".  This in now way requires a public lambasting of
mind candy.

Your remarks do not affect me personally - I fully intend to keep
trudging to the corner sweet shop for my joycean jawbreakers.
I speak for those who might out of guilt and lack of confidence
(aren't Judeo-Christian values wonderful) actually go out
and purchase Cerebus and like someone handed pgs 345-347 of
War and Peace, complain - "Huh, I don't understand what's going on".

-L
-- 
The most exquisite pain is self inflicted.
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From: whicken@kastor.ccsf.caltech.edu (Wendell Hicken)
Subject: Dark Joker: The Wild
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:58:27 GMT

Does anyone know the status of the Batman Elseworlds Book
"Dark Joker: The Wild".  It's supposed to be a medieval
swords & sorcery book, as I understand.  This month's
Advance Comics is listing another Batman Elseworld's book
set during Civil War times, and I haven't seen anything about
Dark Joker yet.  When is it scheduled?

					Wendell
From: v070km6q@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (John B Schutkeker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Valiant sucks
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:39:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <BtKG8E.Jtq@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, dv52151@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Axly) writes...

>		....The five issue #1 of Team Titans is the last straw for me.
>I've quit reading all DC titles, because I think this is the lowest, cheesiest 
>marketing strategy yet. I'm sure Marvel will come up with a bigger one soon,

Well, it looks like DC has beaten Marvel to the next marketing gimmick.  The
Eclipso series will be printed with a (fake) jewel embedded in the cover
of the book.  It's a must have, so you can damage the back cover of the
book that sits on top of it when you store them in a stack.  And the new
Robin mini-series will have some kind of "moving" cover, woth a little
pull-out that you tug on to make it move.  Sigh....

>I hate the Infinity War....

Oh.  I like the Infinity War.  But that's about all.

>Give the fan a break guys. We are getting pretty pissed off out here in  
>reader land.

Hear hear!

						-- John Sch...
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From: jwtlai@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Jim W "GrimJim" Lai)
Subject: Re: Dream's recent lover 
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:20:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.231017.2690@morgan.ucs.mun.ca> cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  8823239) writes:
>Before people post back saying "are you sure you want to say that to
>Morpheus?" Remember two things.
>
>1. This is not a Marvel Comic letter page where I am suppose to be
>afraid that the character is going to get me.

What?!  You mean you haven't been reading LOBO?  Aw, frag.  The MAIN MAN will
frag ya if he finds out...  [Well, ok, so those letter pages are a parody.]

>2. It's just a comic (albeit a good one), I'll take my chances.

Honestly, I doubt Morpheus would care much about what we think of him.  In
fact, he's probably think nothing of it.  Nothing at all.  [Ok, so I'm trying
to be cutesie in a lit-crit, neo-prostration, xerox-emulation way.  Humor me.]
 
>know
 future
From: ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Primer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Marsume Sirow
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:41:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bu0JtK.6It
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


    AS a big fan of Marsume Shirow(appleseed, Dominion,Black Magic) I
was thrilled when I saw something about a book of his work
coming out in the month of August. Well....August is over,
has anyone seen this? It was priced in the 30-40$ range so it wasn't
a regular comic.

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty III)
Subject: Re: Quotes from reviews
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:00:39 GMT

In article <BtnnL8.5tr@wpi.WPI.EDU>, megazone@wpi.WPI.EDU (MegaZone23) writes:
> [Me writes!]
> >Aside:  am I the only one who gets pi**ed off at the fact that every time
> >a magazine decided to print an article on comics, it has to have a title
> >like "BANG! POW!  COMICS AREN'T FOR KIDS ANYMORE!" or some such crap?
> >[Please, no mentions about Ellison's PLAYBOY article.  That's the exception
> >that proves the rule.]
> 
> OK, I won't.... I'll mention the 'Not Funny HaHa Funnybook Reviews' in 
> bOING bOING... Of course, not everyone reads bb, which is too bad. it's a
> great neuro-zine....

No offense, Zoner, but I was looking for something more along the lines of
THE NEW YORK TIMES BOOK REVIEW.  I'll even take TIME or NEWSWEEK.

-- 
			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
			The Incredible Man-with-no-Life
			      jester@ihlpl.att.com
		    Disclaimer: You're not dealing with AT&T
From: dougm@hal.com (Doug Moran)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Fish Police by Marvel:  BUY IT
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:05:42 GMT
Reply-To: dougm@hal.com (Doug Moran)
Distribution: na
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.; Campbell, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gizmo.hal.com
In-reply-to: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)

In article <1992Aug30.004521.4993@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, dvandom@magnus (David VanDomelen) writes:
>When I saw a copy of the Marvel run of Fish Police on the rack emblazoned with 
>the words "TV's Fish Police!" I nearly gagged at the thought of a comic being 
>made off that horrid parody of an originally good book.  But, given my quotient
>of morbid curiosity, I looked inside...and was pleasantly surprised to see that
>they were reprinting the original run!  Now, I already have the whole story, so
>I have no need to buy it, but I would recommend this title to anyone out there 
>who likes a good independent comic but lacks access to a shop that sells them.
>Fish Police is a 26 issue story, and is quite good.  So don't be deceived by 
>the big "M" in the upper left hand corner, this is a good comic.

Is it colored, or is it in the original black and white?  And the artist
really is Steve Moncuse, and not some Marvel staffer?
-- 
    Doug Moran        | Heck, picture if aliens ever landed in California.
   dougm@hal.com      | Instead of running away or even inquiring about the
 {...}!hal.com!dougm  | secrets of the universe, *Californians* would probably
 HaL Computer Systems | ask the BEMs if they had any new cuisine!
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: tyg@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: DC Implosion
Organization: Interleaf
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 03:05:52 GMT

In article <BtK26r.CF1@askinc.ask.COM> robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen) writes:
>Regarding Aquaman, I really like the title as it is already, but
>absolutely LOVED "The Atlantis Chronicles", so Peter A. David will
>be a great writer to shift to.  Will this title (which I presume
>is starting with a miniseries) restart where "...Chronicles" left off?

Given that the last issue of the current run of Aquaman (#13) will have
someone giving Arthur a copy of Atlantis Chronicles and saying "You should
read this" and #1 of Time and Tide will start after he's done so, and
that Peter thinks Atlantis Chronicles is his best work, yeah I'd say it's
a safe bet that it'll be tied in.  

Also, Peter did say at San Diego that he might have a squid commit suicide
to prevent r.a.c. people from coming up to him and asking about when 
Aquaman and Suicide Squid will team up.

Finally, when Time and Tide #1 comes out, remember to write DC and ask for
a spinoff series about the sharks ("What sharks?"). You'll understand after
you see it.

"In the unlikely event that we make it as far as a body of water before we
crash," the flight attendant is saying, "you can use your complimentary snack
to repel sharks." --Dave Barry
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
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From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Subject: Re: How to stop buying the Legion?
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:13:48 GMT

Buying garbage just to avoid 'holes' in a collection has
got to be THE dumbest thing I have ever heard.

Spending mony increasing the sales of a comic that's
pure trash (current LEGION comes to mind) is just
encouraging them.

Throw it out the window, burn it, invest it, buy a good
comic, but don't pour money down the drain on garbage.

Do you think you'll actually want to read that trash? 
Are you going to brag to people 'I have all of them -- even
the ones that are complete crap! Look how I wasted my money!'
Do you think the garbage will be worth something?

This 'complete collection' crap was invented by dealers and 
Marvel to give people a reason to give them money for
garbage.

Wise up!

:) :) :)

Scott
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Team Titans #2
From: silvers3@husc10.harvard.edu (Jolyon Silversmith)
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:11:51 EDT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <nzdnm+q.dani@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
>Every time I vow that if this storyline gets any worse I'll drop it,
>it does so, just to make a liar out of me.  I thought what they did
>to Donna in New Titans was bad -- until I saw the new Deathstroke.
>In changing him from an honorable and incredibly skilled man in a
>distasteful profession to another gunslinger with a bad attitude,
>they've taken away the little that made him an interesting character.

Not to mention - Troia now looks like she's wearing the NBC peacock on her
head...


-- 
Jolyon A. Silversmith __________________________________________________________
silvers3@husc.harvard.edu            President             "Eternal Vigilance is
Mather House 100              ACLU of Harvard College      the Price of Liberty"
Cambridge, MA 02138 ____________________________________________________________
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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: What do these people do ..... ?
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:03:21 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

dyko@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Darren Yiu Ming KO) writes:

> Would a kind soul out there in netland kindly enlighten me as to what
> the following terms mean?  . . .  

I don't want to sound completely pedantic about this, but:

	The writer writes the script.
	The penciller draws the art -- in pencil.
	The inker inks the pencilled artwork.
	The colorist colors the inked artwork.
	The letterer letters the word balloons and captions.

> Some, I agree, are painfully obvious, but they do seem to overlap....

How so?  Plenty of people do more than one of the above, but each
task is completely distinct.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
From: jmclaughlin@gems.vcu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: New Titans #91
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:49:26 GMT
Organization: Medical College of Virginia

In article <14547@mindlink.bc.ca>, Herbert_Fung@mindlink.bc.ca (Herbert Fung) writes:
> Previously Michael Lee Jacobs wrote:
> 
>>Not only does Donna have a new outfit, but she has completely lost
>>any _taste_ in choosing her godly accouterments....at least Chaos is
>>making a rather nice fashion statement..though his winged helm has GOT to
>>GO :)
> 
> Why does Donna's new helmet remind me of NBC?
Actually, it makes me wonder if she wandered into the Marvel Universe, only to 
get picked up by the Asgardian gods, who let her borrow a few things that she 
really didn't have much choice about, including those (pardon me) ungodly 
stupid Kirby headdresses...
						Judy
From: levin6706@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: LSH: New version number wanted
Date: 26 Aug 92 13:11:39 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <78386@ut-emx.uucp>, danfrank@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Daniel Frank) writes:
> In article <1992Aug21.182426.27400@pbhyc.PacBell.COM> djdaneh@PacBell.COM (Dan'l DanehyOakes) writes:
>>ever invalidating what had gone before.  Ditto for Moore's MIRACLEMAN:  allowing
>>for the slight differences for copyright reasons, he took the character of
>>Captain Marvel and (a) radically rearranged his origin, (b) explained where
>>he'd been since the fifties, and (c) made him a much more serious sort of a
>>charcter all without (d) invalidating any of the previous stories (except, of
>>course, in the peculiar sense that they'd all been a dream.  Or had they?).
> 
> Really? I didn't know that MiracleMan was based on Cap. Color me ignorant.

        Sorry, but you have the facts a little turned around there.  Miracleman
is not based on Capt. Marvel.  Rather Marvelman, who later becomes Miracleman
under Moore, is a character based on Capt. Marvel.  Kind of confusing, but 
true.  Marvelman was the English version of the big red cheese and his cheesy 
"family".

                                                have a nice day

                                                        S H Y L O C K
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From: leifmk@Lise.Unit.NO (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
Subject: Re: Comics as Wall Art (was Re: San Diego Con Horror Story)
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 18:48:20 GMT

In article <18217@acorn.co.uk>, jcoxhead@acorn.co.uk (Jonathan Coxhead) writes:
 > 
 >    I used two copies of the Bullseye vs Elektra issue of Daredevil by Frank
 > Miller to decorate my room in my second year at college.
 > 
 >    I bought two extra copies, cut them all up and assembled them into a
 > rectangular array. The effect of being able to see the whole story at once
 > was curious: you noticed all kinds of things about Miller's layout technique
 > that you might not have otherwise. I've never been tempted to do it with
 > work by anyone else, but his style - large chunky figures, bold page layout
 > and dynamic figures - fit the presentation very well. 
 > 
 >    Am I the only one to have tried this?
 > 
 >    /|
 >   (_|/
 >    /|
 >   (_/

I did about the same thing with an extra (Swedish-language, by the way) copy of
The Dark Knight Returns (part 4).  Worked great....

Leif the .sig-less
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