HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ecurtis@orion.oac.uci.edu (Evans Curtis)
Subject: Re: DREAD LOCKS PART 2
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Keywords: RASTAFARIAN (misconception)
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:14:51 GMT

In article <Bvnu8p.7IC@acsu.buffalo.edu> v117qh7z@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Ivor G Reid) writes:
>
>
>	I have found myself having to explain to people in this
>	country that Jamaica is more than just about rastafarians.  I
>	have had people asking how I don't wear dreads and some of
>	these people have the nerve to think that if you are from
>	Jamaica you should wear dreads and smoke ganja.

I think this is understandable, if not forgiveable.  Americans get most of
their information from TV., and if you asked the average american who is
the most famous Jamaican I think he'd say Bob Marley.  Well, HE was Rasta,
smoked ganja, as perhaps most of his band.

I'm not from the U.S., and we didn't have TV when I was growing up, so what
I learned about Jamaica was either from reading or word of mouth.  If you
asked me who is the most famous I'd say Marcus Garvey, and I know Rastas are
just a small group and that dreadlocks DON'T mean Rastas.

So then, let's hear it from those Yardies who really know.


Peace,



Evans D Curtis
Office of Academic Computing
University of California - Irvine




Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean,alt.activism,sci.econ,soc.culture.african.american
From: alan@highlite.uucp (Alan McConnell)
Subject: Re: Jamaican Prime Minister Forecasts End to Nation's IMF Program
Organization: Gotham Communications Research
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 01:27:44 GMT


In my work at a NASA facility I have seen space observations of Hurricane
Hugo(the hurricane of the Century, according to meteorologists) with its
eye passing _directly_ over Jamaica.  Thus I greet this news with delight
of course but also astonishment.   Do reminders of awesome devastation of
infrastructure sully the purity of sci.econ? if so I apologize . . .
Alan McConnell
-- 
Alan McConnell             "What wondrous life is this I lead!
Pixel Analysis              Ripe apples drop about my head . ."
From: CMDONA00@ukcc.uky.edu (Christine Donahoe)
Subject: Port Antonio and Treasure Beach Jamaica
Organization: University of Kentucky
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:34:53 GMT

My husband and I have been to Negril several times but have decided
we would like to visit Port Antonio and possibly Treasure Beach.  I
would appreciate hearing from anyone who has visited those two areas.
Has anyone stayed at the Admiralty Club on Navy Island?  Thanks!
 
Chris
From: v117qh7z@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Ivor G Reid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: RE: PEOPLE FROM THE CARIBBEAN
Keywords: reference id's
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:12:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: acsu.BvnxC8.9sr
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	In reference to (Evans Curtis) message of Oct. 5, 1992. You
	can know where people are sending messages from by looking
	at their reference id. If you check the reference id or
	who it is coming from you will see CUNY which stands for
	City University of New York, so she is not sending messages
	directly from Jamaica. I am almost certian that City College
	or any of the other CUNY Schools have no special links with
	Jamaica (University of the West Indies Mona Campus). So she
	is in New York City.
From: ecurtis@orion.oac.uci.edu (Evans Curtis)
Subject: Re: PEOPLE FROM THE CARIBBEAN
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Keywords: reference id's
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:05:53 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <BvnxC8.9sr@acsu.buffalo.edu> v117qh7z@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Ivor G Reid) writes:
>
>	In reference to (Evans Curtis) message of Oct. 5, 1992. You
>	can know where people are sending messages from by looking
>	at their reference id. If you check the reference id or
>	who it is coming from you will see CUNY which stands for
>	City University of New York, so she is not sending messages
>	directly from Jamaica. I am almost certian that City College
>	or any of the other CUNY Schools have no special links with
>	Jamaica (University of the West Indies Mona Campus). So she
>	is in New York City. 

While this has some truth to it, I was thrown when she said LIVE
from Jamaica :)

I have a friend that writes me from Venezuela and HIS messages come thru
Sun Microsystems.  I assure you that his address gives NO clue as to where
it originates, for instance, "emsca!kintevep!wajdi@sun.COM so one can never
be too sure.  Of course his company deals with Sun, but yeah, the address
doesn't always tell the full story.

BTW I think you should sign your messages at the bottom.  I know, I know,
you're going to say I could go back to the heading to see :)


Evans D Curtis
Office of Academic Computing
University of California - Irvine
From: perrault@a.chem.upenn.edu (Ange R. Perrault)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: PEOPLE FROM THE CARIBBEAN
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:37:58 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania




		This is so far a few of the names collected form the Net:


	Ange Ronel Perrault        	Port-au-Prince, HAITI

	Marvin A. Titus			St. Croix, Virgin Islands

	Savi Maharaj		 	Trinidad

	Ramnarine Ragbir		Trinidad & Tobago

	Hubert Montas		 	Haiti & France & Canada

	Gerry George			Castries, St. Lucia (Iyanola)

	Sidney Thomas			Trinidad

	Luis P. Caamano			Dominican Republic

	Derrick M.Tatem			St. Croix, V. I., via St.Kitts

	Patrice Simon			Antigua

	Jose R. Quinones-Cerezo		Aguadilla, Puerto Rico

	Ruben Del Rosario		Ponce, Puerto Rico

	Anthony Maillard		Trinidad

	Nathalee Brown 			Jamaica

	Francisco Perez			Bayamon, Puerto Rico

	Yvonne Clarke			Montego Bay, Jamaica

	Praimnath Sankar		Pointe-a-Pierre,T'dad

	Ricardo Corretjer		Caguas, Puerto Rico

	Ivan M. Bou			Puerto Rico

	Vandoren P. Outten		Nassau, Bahamas


		P.S.: if I left out someone's name I do apologize. 
		      (There must be more out there, drop me a line)

							PEACE!

A. Ronel Perrault
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: sthomas@worldbank.org (Sidney F. Thomas)
Subject: Re: PEOPLE FROM THE CARIBBEAN
Reply-To: sthomas@nimbus.UUCP (Sidney F. Thomas)
Organization: World Bank
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:58:43 GMT


Sidney Thomas, Trinidad.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: hstewar1@moliere.helios.nd.edu (hemsley stewart)
Subject: Re: DREADLOCKS-HISTORY INFO.WANTED
Keywords: Rasta
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:39:12 GMT

In article <BvIFJs.KnB@acsu.buffalo.edu> v117qh7z@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Ivor G Reid) writes:
>
>
>	I have been reading through some of the articles and one cannot
>	help noticing that there is a lot of info. on  the so call hist-
>	ory of dreadlocks which to me seems like everybody is an expert
>	on.  My question is this; why it seems to me that everybody is
>	fascinated with this rasta business here in the USA and in 
>	Jamaica it is not really a big deal.  I know in Ja. if most
>	young guys decide to become rasta they would be cut off from
>	their parents (thrown out of their house).  It seems to me that
>	rastas get more respect here in the USA than in Jamaica.  I 
>	wonder why is that?  Also does this guy who requested the info.
>	knows the significance of being a rasta.  Why would anybody
>	want to become a rasta unless it is for religious purposes.
>	It seems to me a lot of people do this because they are fasc-
>	inated with it and don't really know what it stands for?
>	Does that wax looking locks looks really that good I wonder.
>
>	P.S. typical JA. thinking (Remember in the mid 80's a rasta kid
>		was thrown out of Camperdown High School because of his
>		hair).	 


Even in Jamaica a young man won't necessarily grow dreadlocks just for
religious reasons.  He may simply want to express some sort of rebellion
against the established order.  He may not be terribly interested in the
essentials of the Rastafarian religion. In fact Jamaicans can be terribly
ambivalent about their reactions to Rasta. It is truly a religion for only
a minority of Jamaicans.

When you transfer Rasta to the world scene, it becomes a much more glamorous
proposition. People in this country keep asking me why don't I grow
dreadlocks since I would look great in them!  They don't get it when I try
to explain to them that that would be a serious religious statement on my
part.  One really cannot fault non-Jamaicans for not understanding the
religious significance of Rasta.  We ourselves have often been guilty of
trivializing it for foreign consumption. 

Xref: sparky soc.culture.caribbean:1446 soc.culture.african.american:9720
From: mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean,soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: Dreadlocks - history, info wanted
Date: 5 Oct 92 11:23:19 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <ISBELL.92Oct2121240@panther.ai.mit.edu>, isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell) writes:
> mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
> |I don't think that you can compare locks to other fashion's, as locks do take
> |on a particular religious significance for Rastafari as opposed to say a hi-top
> |fade.  "Baldhead" (i.e non-dreadlocks) being a source of oppression at best or
> |a source of evil at worst (depending on which part of the spectra of Rasta
> |theologies one resides in), it is easy to see why it could be upsetting for a
> |dread to see a baldhead taking one of his key religious symbols and making it
> |into a fashion statement.
> 
> Not much different than the arguments about the current "X" fashion
> trip, eh?

It is.  One is taking a religious symbol as a fashion statement, and the other
is glorifying someone.  I suppose if you're an iconoclast (not suggesting you
are Charles!) it might not make a difference, but I think in terms of potential
to cause offence the wearing of dreadlocks is more so than an "X" paying homage
to Malcolm.

I do concede the point though that they both "fashions" originate to a certain
degree from "Afrocentric trendiness".

> 
> 
> 
> --
> Peace.
>           "Until the lions have their historians,
>            tales of the hunted will always glorify the hunter."
>                         - African proverb
>                                    -\--/-
>     Don't just adopt opinions     |  \/  |       Some of you are homeboys
>           develop them.           |  /\  | but only I am The Homeboy From hell
>                                    -/--\-

McBean
From: v117qh7z@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Ivor G Reid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: RE: ENLIGHTENMENT ON THE RASTAFARIAN ISSUE Part 2
Keywords: Rasta Believe
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:19:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	In reference to Robarr@sdcc3.ucsd.edu(Robert O'Barr) request
	if Rastafarian believe in Blacks as the chosen people and
	Whites as the devils made me laugh a bit but it is a very
	good question.  I have lived in Jamaica for 17 years and
	from what I can tell  based on my exprience being around
	rastas and baldheads all I can say is that I do admire 
	some of the rastafarian beliefs. Rastas from what I have seen
	don't like any form of supression and since we black people
	have been surpress for centuries they feel the same way as
	you and I would feel about certain issues.  I believe we are
	the chosen people and this is just my opinion, and as for
	what a rastaman believe you will have to ask one that question
	directly.  To tell you the truth I have heard both from baldheads
	and rasta the answer to that but I don't think I am qualified to
	answer that question for a rastaman.
			Ivor
From: v117qh7z@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Ivor G Reid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Enlightenment on the Rastafarian issue
Keywords: Attitude Towards Rasta in Jamaica
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:25:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: acsu.Bvo6B6.Fs3
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	In reference to (Evans Curtis) message requesting some insight
	on the issue of Rastafarianism.  I would like to let you and
	others know that in Jamaica rasta suffer a lot of discrimination
	because you have some  guys back home who would dread their
	hair and do bad things and this would cause many of us Jamaican
	people to have a negative attitude towards rastas.  Also there
	is all type of negativity associated with one being a rasta.
	Rastas are looked upon as being lazy, worthless, etc....
	Yes indeed it is very sad the type of discrimination they
	get but I grew up in Jamaica and live in a society there that
	constantly discriminate agianst them.  So living in America
	and seeing how people are fascinated with them is amazing. But
	I think if some these people were brought up in society that
	that acts insensity to a lot of the rastafarian issue they would
	some how be affected in their veiw of rasta person.  Take Bob
	Marlely for instance he had to earn respect for himself and
	other rasta but yet still they are still veiw in many negative
	ways back home.  Many of Bob's songs are related  in some way
	to struggle and persecution rastafarians have to go through in
	Jamaica.
From: paco@fe520.cc.purdue.edu (Francisco Perez)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: PEOPLE FROM THE CARIBBEAN
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:48:00 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

In article <97312@bu.edu>, ggeorge@acs.bu.edu (Gerry George) writes:
|> 
|> In article <1992Oct1.171354.24565@meaddata.com>, derrick@meaddata.com (Derrick Tatem) writes:
|> |> In article <1992Oct1.143416.10412@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov>, joseq@bazas.lerc.nasa.gov (Jose Quinones-Cerezo) writes:
|> |> |> In article <1OCT199209462193@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov>, afruben@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (RUBEN DELROSARIO) writes:
|> |> |> |> In article <Anthony_Maillard-300992174210@appletalk-67.mdd.comm.mot.com>, Anthony_Maillard@Mdd.comm.mot.com (Anthony Maillard) writes...
|> |> |> |> >It's simple. Tell who you are and where you're from. Let's find out how
|> |> |> |> >many Caribbeas are out there?
|> |> |> |> > 
|> |> |> |> >Anthony Maillard - "Trini in the know....."
|> |> |> |> 
|> |> |> |> Ruben Del Rosario --- Ponce, Puerto Rico
|> |> |> |> 
|> |> |> 
|> |> |> Jose R. Quinones-Cerezo - Aguadilla, Puerto Rico
|> |> |> 
|> |> 
|> |> Derrik M.Tatem - St. Croix, Virgin Islands, via St.Kitts
|> |> 
|> |> -- 
|> 
|> Gerry George - Castries, St. Lucia (Iyanola): the Helen of the West.
|> 
|> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> 
|>      
|> Francisco Perez (Paco)  -    Bayamon, Puerto Rico
|> 
|> 
|> 	
|> paco@mentor.cc.purdue.edu		
|> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> 
|> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Xref: sparky soc.culture.caribbean:1397 soc.culture.african.american:9602
From: jxh7597@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean,soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: Dreadlocks - history, info wanted
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:59:19 GMT
Reply-To: jxh7597@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

You do not have to locks your hair to be a Rastafarian or vise versa.Recently growing locks has become a style and this has been defeating the purpose of a Rastaman growing his locks.They are very upset about this trend,which is so prevalent in U.S.A. Rastafarian now label the fashionist as commercial dreadlocks. 
Try to meet a true representative of  a Rastaman and find out why he locks andwhat is its significance.The worst thing to do is to become a commercial dread;you will sell yourself.
Selah.
From: v117qh7z@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Ivor G Reid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Enlightenment Series.........
Keywords: Rastas God
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:57:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	In reference to (2AD1E92B.19519@News.Service.uci.edu)(Evans Curtis)
	statement "Why are the Yardies quiet".  All I can say is that I
	don't understand why these rastafarians choose to worship a man
	instead of God.  Yet still they use a lot stuff from the Bible
	for their use and neglect the part of the Bible that says there
	should be no other Gods other than God himself (Idols etc....).
	So this is an area I can't touch since I am not a rastaman. I
	guess they are the only ones that can explain that religious
	aspect of their belief.  As for me I have nothing more say on
	the rasta issue since I am not at all too intrigue in their way
	of life.
	
		Ivor Reid
		Engineering and Applied Sciences
		SUNY AT BUFFALO
From: ggeorge@acs.bu.edu (Gerry George)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: PEOPLE FROM THE CARIBBEAN
Date: 1 Oct 92 23:35:39 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: ggeorge@acs.bu.edu


In article <1992Oct1.171354.24565@meaddata.com>, derrick@meaddata.com (Derrick Tatem) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct1.143416.10412@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov>, joseq@bazas.lerc.nasa.gov (Jose Quinones-Cerezo) writes:
|> |> In article <1OCT199209462193@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov>, afruben@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (RUBEN DELROSARIO) writes:
|> |> |> In article <Anthony_Maillard-300992174210@appletalk-67.mdd.comm.mot.com>, Anthony_Maillard@Mdd.comm.mot.com (Anthony Maillard) writes...
|> |> |> >It's simple. Tell who you are and where you're from. Let's find out how
|> |> |> >many Caribbeas are out there?
|> |> |> > 
|> |> |> >Anthony Maillard - "Trini in the know....."
|> |> |> 
|> |> |> Ruben Del Rosario --- Ponce, Puerto Rico
|> |> |> 
|> |> 
|> |> Jose R. Quinones-Cerezo - Aguadilla, Puerto Rico
|> |> 
|> 
|> Derrick M.Tatem - St. Croix, Virgin Islands, via St.Kitts
|> 
|> -- 

Gerry George - Castries, St. Lucia (Iyanola): the Helen of the West.

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MIS Dept. 
Boston University
Boston, MA.
INTERNET:	ggeorge@acs.bu.edu
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean,soc.culture.african.american
From: lashlepi@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Phillip Lashley)
Subject: Re: Dreadlocks - history, info wanted
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 03:13:30 GMT

In all this ting about man locks, unna cahn see dat dem tek we history, dem 
tek we life style, we conciousness an try do dem own ting with it. Jah know, en
nuttin wrong wid using wuh a fi we, we own self.  Anyhow, Rasta ina de hearts 
of all men.  Look, i have work todo. Sone with all dis talk. Tommorow(JAH belss)

Xref: sparky soc.culture.caribbean:1460 rec.music.afro-latin:637
From: plm@reggae.cam (Paul L. Mowatt)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean,rec.music.afro-latin
Subject: Songs of Freedom/Time will Tell
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:46:17 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: /bdfs/users/plm/.organization

I went out during lunch today to get my copy of the Bob Marley's "Songs of
Freedom".  I'm listening to it right now.  Can't get the full effect since
I'm listening through some MIDI speakers (not enough bass).  The package is 
very impressive.  Of course the music is excellent.  It contains most of the
12" versions which I could not seem to find anywhere.  It also contains some
previously unreleased material and alternate versions of some favorites.

The package contains 4 CD's each one has a different portrait of Bob through
the years.  A cassete version is also available.  Included is a 62 page 
booklet containing historical data and commentary on songs in the set.

So if your want to get the Bob Marley story wrapped up in one neat package
try to get your hands on this CD set (whether you're baldhead or dreadlocks!
:->).

I also got a copy of the "Time will Tell" video.  This is another excellent
product.  The narrator is Bob himself.  Brought back for a special appearance
through the marvel of technology.
--
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: raj@sunland.gsfc.nasa.gov (Raj Ramlagan)
Subject: Elections in Guyana
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, MD
Distribution: soc.culture.caribbean
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:44:21 GMT


Reports from friends and relatives indicate the Peoples Progressive
Party (PPP) is ahead in the polls.  THe PPP had 98% of the votes in
the Essequibo and Black Bush regions.  All indicators are pointing to
a PPP victory.  Dr. Cheddi Jagan seem to be the most favoured
political leader.  The disgusting news is the looting and vandalism to
Indian owned businesses in the Regent and Camp Street corridors.
These low class acts are being led by Hamilton Green and Corbin.  It
is clear that the assassination of these two low life murderers and
criminals is a must for progress in Guyana.  The PNC is a criminal
organization and the people of Guyana deserve a change.  After 20
plus years of corruption, extortion, intimidation and murder we must
have a change.  Racial issues have no place in any agenda for
progress,  Guyana has a lot to accomplish.  Lets think of ourselves as
Guyanese and rebuild a country that Guyanese can stay and prosper in,
and one where people from all over the world would like to visit.

Raj
From: mtitus@umsa.umd.edu (Marvin A. Titus)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: PEOPLE FROM THE CARIBBEAN
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:37:23 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Maryland System Administration

In article <1992Oct1.171354.24565@meaddata.com> derrick@meaddata.com (Derrick Tatem) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.143416.10412@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov>, joseq@bazas.lerc.nasa.gov (Jose Quinones-Cerezo) writes:
>|> In article <1OCT199209462193@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov>, afruben@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (RUBEN DELROSARIO) writes:
>|> |> In article <Anthony_Maillard-300992174210@appletalk-67.mdd.comm.mot.com>, Anthony_Maillard@Mdd.comm.mot.com (Anthony Maillard) writes...
>|> |> >It's simple. Tell who you are and where you're from. Let's find out how
>|> |> >many Caribbeas are out there?
>|> |> > 
>|> |> >Anthony Maillard - "Trini in the know....."
>|> |> 
>|> |> Ruben Del Rosario --- Ponce, Puerto Rico
>|> |> 
>|> 
>|> Jose R. Quinones-Cerezo - Aguadilla, Puerto Rico
>|> 
>
>Derrick M.Tatem - St. Croix, Virgin Islands, via St.Kitts
>
>-- 
>Derrick M. Tatem
>Mead Data Central, Dayton, Ohio
>Internet: derrick@meaddata.com
>UUCP:     !uunet!meaddata!derrick



Marvin A. Titus - St. Croix, Virgin Islands



Marvin A. Titus
University of Maryland System Administration
internet: mtitus@umsa.umd.edu
From: ecurtis@orion.oac.uci.edu (Evans Curtis)
Subject: Re: ...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:04:52 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.020344.17465@ultb.isc.rit.edu> nvw8292@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>Will let you know about golf games, etc.  
>
>Ah, me wan people know seh me out ya to.  How di Name and Country of Origin


I no know if unno wahn exclude me, but I feel part a dis group to.
I no tink de country matta, I think dis is fah anybody hoo fine it 
intaresting :) :)  


Evans D Curtis   -  Pearl Lagoon, Nicaragua



Evans D Curtis
Office of Academic Computing
University of California - Irvine