HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: davisonj@en.ecn.purdue.edu (John M Davison)
Subject: Re: Who's the first?
Followup-To: alt.flame
Keywords: industrial pretentious pseudo-intellectual malcontent garbage 
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 22:11:56 GMT

In article <Af3hydu00iUy84dGhI@andrew.cmu.edu> Jason Nathaniel Cohen <jcas+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Just curious on opinions out there on who had the first industrial [record] as
>we know it now sound?????

        Throbbing Gristle.

>  Was Sp the first to really synthesize voice?

        No.  Speech synthesis was done as early as the late 1800s, when some
scientists attached a bellows to a flexible leather tube which was manipulated
by hand.

>  Im
>sure groups had done it somewhat before but I mean completely like SP
>did does and is copied.THIS IS NOT A QUESTION OF WHO WAS FIRST
>'INDUSTRIAL' BAND. E......N..... whatever way you say it I guess would
>be the answer for that one.

        Throbbing Gristle, having coined the term "industrial music", is by
definition the first industrial band.  The FAQ covers this.

>Just who started the fucked voice
>thing??????

        King Crimson's "21st Century Schizoid Man" (from the _In_the_Court_of_
_the_Crimson_King_ album) features the lead vocal being sung through a fuzzbox.
That was circa 1971 (not sure exactly when).

        Vocal processing has been done practically since the invention of the
Edison cylinder.


-- 
John Davison
davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu
Tsongas in '96
From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B))
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: That NIN fella IS HE DEAD???????
Date: 16 Nov 1992 00:51:37 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <Bxs5y9.36D@ccu.umanitoba.ca> rmartin@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard Martin) writes:
|In <92316.105846JMC159@psuvm.psu.edu> <JMC159@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
|
|>My boyfriend wants me to post this asking you if Trent Reznor is DEAD!!!!  He
|>said that someone told him that he died of a heroine overdose, and the dude
|>said it was NO LIE!!!  Does anyone out there know if this is true?  I am not
|>tryong to start amy rumors, I just want the facts!
|
|Damn, Again?!?!?!
|
|Thats the third time in the last two years.

It's the second time this week here on rec.music.industrial....
From: jaa@po.CWRU.Edu (Joseph A. Ambrose)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Nitzer Ebb (was RE: open letter...Bill Clinton)
Date: 16 Nov 1992 17:06:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: jaa@po.CWRU.Edu (Joseph A. Ambrose)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, C_S02112@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU (*Steven Eugene Benedict) says:

>In <BxM5CD.Fww@news.cso.uiuc.edu> thoth@uiuc.edu writes:
>
>> Robert Haskins <RHASKINS@UMAB.BITNET> writes:
>> 
>> >Have you heard any of those pieces?
>> 
>> All of them, in fact.
>> 
>> And Nitzer Ebb isn't even in the same class.
>> 
>> --
>> Ben Cox
>
>
>	Maybe, but this is strictly *your* opinion...it is not, however, an
>opinion that Nitzer Ebb's first album and earlier stuff was minimal.  That was
>the whole point...they were minimal in the beginning, and you can't deny it.
>So, don't flame people who said that they were minimal, an don't read posts
>about Nitzer Ebb if you don't like them...it will save you a lot of trouble.

arrrrrrrrrrgggghhhh..
no they werent dammit. I admit their early stuff especially the first album
"That Total Age" was better, but god dammit, it aint minimalist.  You cant say
that it is anything like John Duncan or Phauss/Bilting/Karkowski or  John
Cage or the Hafler Trio. please stop calling Nitzer Ebb minimalist.


>
>
>Steve
>
BOB
--
From: djperry@scws1.harvard.edu (Lord of deXness)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: NIN does too sound like Ministry and what's this
Date: 15 Nov 92 17:34:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Nov15.123405.17459
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Nov15.061900.102@u.washington.edu> synergy@hardy.u.washington.edu (The Bob next door) writes:
>
>But then again maybe you do have something of a point, but regardless
>of the bit about Foetus the new NIN is darned close to Ministry on "The
>Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste."
>

Maybe in a basic, loud guitar sound sense, Ministry and NIN now sound alike.
However, the new NIN songs are a lot more melodic than new Ministry songs 
(ie combination of singing and screaming instead of just screaming, chord
progressions of more than two chords, that type of thing) and remind me more
of harder Foetus songs (English Faggot, Clothes Hoist, etc.).

deX!

-- 
================================================================================
| Dan Perry 	      	      |  The voice inside you		 	       |
| Harvard College     	      |  Becomes the voice of now.		       |
| djperry@husc		      |  	-MBM, "Original Control"	       |
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Surely, "With Sympathy" is NOT Ministry !
From: aakhan@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:24:54 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

In article <83835@ut-emx.uucp>, alex@fiskville.mc.utexas.edu writes:
>> Couple of days ago, tho, a friend of mine jumped all over my case,
>> claiming that Al Jourgenson is totally contra drugs, although he has a
>> thing for hard liquor.
>> 
>> Now, what is the truth (among all the rumors)? Does Al do drugs, or is  
> just
>> that it's expected of a person of his genre to do drugs, so it has been
>> ascribed to him?

got enough fingers to count'em my dear?
but depends on what you call drugs....
give me a hint and I will give you some...
he got Ogre fucked and shooting heroin during Rabies.... 
I think the "hard liquor" transmited itself through his soulangel Hank..
besides makes him fit right into the Daniel's swiging metal crowd..
won't you agree??

an offering of love
from flesh chamber9

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: nzander@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Negativland CANCELLED in D.C. (?)
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:07:52 GMT

Yes, Wolf Trap says that the tour has cancelled..whtever that means.
   Perhaps they've just schedualed at another venue?

Keep on Trucking,

-Nouri
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Misquamicus)
Subject: Montreal Clubs?
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 19:48:10 GMT
X-Posted-From: titan.ucc.umass.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

I'll be visiting said town in a week or two. Any cool clubs/record stores
ect. I should check out while I'm there? I seem to remember someone posting
an "industrial guide" to a canadian city. If it was Montreal, please repost...

-Misquamicus
From: x92reed5@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: NITZER EBB QUESTI0N...
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:19:19 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

COULD SOMEBODY SEND ME A LIST OF NITZER EBB CD TITLES?

THE STORES NEAR ME ONLY CARRY 2; SHOWTIME & EBBHEAD.


WHAT ARE SOME OTHERS?




ERIC...
From: alex@fiskville.mc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: That NIN fella IS HE DEAD???????
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:15:46 GMT

JMC159@psuvm.psu.edu writes
> My boyfriend wants me to post this asking you if Trent Reznor is  
DEAD!!!!  He
> said that someone told him that he died of a heroine overdose, and the  
dude
> said it was NO LIE!!!  Does anyone out there know if this is true?  I am  
not
> tryong to start amy rumors, I just want the facts!
> 
> Jill


Yeah, well I heard that Prince died of AIDS while on a trip to Africa in  
1987... surprisingly, it hasn't hurt his career at all.

I don't know if Reznor is physically dead but, in my opinion, he is  
musically dead. Too much hanging out with Al "if you can't beat them,  
remake them in your own image" Jourgensen.


--
***************************************
Alex Currier
Texas Union MicroCenter
University of Texas at Austin

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From: sharpmn@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew N. Sharp)
Subject: Re: Nin
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:02:10 GMT

In article <Bxyzzr.CHB@nic.umass.edu> torben@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Random Tox) writes:
>
>	With regard to the original poster:
>		Get a fucking clue.

This, from someone who calls themself:
>	- Random Tox






Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
				-Al, from "Happy Days"






M a t t h e w                                                         S h a r p
matthew@symphony.cc.purdue.edu      mnsharp@nyx.cs.du.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: scupin@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (SCUPIN  JONATHAN RAYMOND)
Subject: Re: Nin
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:46:38 GMT

Gosh!, can no one else even sense the drastic humor and sarcasm in
this guy's original post???
Don't put yourself so high up that you fail to recognize when others
MOCK YOU!! Oh, wait, you already have....

I thought I responded last week with an overwhelming amount of sarcasm, 
but still, people wrote to me to harp about stupid crap....Gawd, get
a phvking clue!

coprophiliac
scupin@rintintin.colorado.edu

shadowshadowshadowWhy?
From: adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP (Adam Mottershead)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Ministry Seating?
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 11:53:52 EST
News-Software: FSUUCP 1.2 R4
X-Mailer: DigiQR 5.38b
Reply-To: adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP (Adam Mottershead)
Distribution: world
Organization: The All Ter Nah Tive Un Der Groend

I was fortunate enough to get second row floor seats for Ministry's
show at Maple Leaf Gardens here in Toronto for December 1.

My friends and I were shocked that the promoter is planning to put
seats on the floor.  The Halloween Jesus and Mary Chain show that was
held at the SkyDome had the entire floor as General Admission and when
that was sold out, it went to regular seating in the stands.

If anybody has been to Ministry's show on the current leg of the tour, where
the tour has been held in a large venue, respond back with your experience.

--
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Brampton, Ontario                     |             adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP
Canada, L6W 4K8                       |
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From: u6066061@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Stein/Einsturzende NeubautenSELECT
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:58:39 GMT
Organization: The University of Melbourne

In article <bmyers.721524612@well.sf.ca.us>, bmyers@well.sf.ca.us (Bryan L. Myers) writes:
> 
> I've seen that Stein recording in the underground stores; but,
> have hesitated on buying it because I've no idea what it's like.
> Has anyone heard Stein's "Steinzeit" ?

i think you are referng to F.M.Einhiet's (sp?) album. maybe not. BUT IF YOU
ARE...That album is FANTASTIC!  I have been collecting FM's stuff for a couple
of years and i have yet to be even slightly let down.   Highly recommended (by
me!)  if you like EN you should like the FM stuff. 


check ya

drew.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: Why shouldn't *we* be fascists like our pals Laibach, too?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: Yeah. Why Not?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
 <1863@heurikon.heurikon.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 05:58:31 GMT


 Too much bubbles through my brain when the conflict of art and politics
is brougt up. I'm lazy when it comes to typing... I'll spit out the best
bits (I hope...).

 I'd much rather see evil basque in its own glory and respect it than to
wonder what evil lurks, shrouded with lies, pretending to be something
that it isn't. When we are aware of things, we can become an active part
of it. We can mold the idea and the ideal. We can ask ourselves what we
don't liek and why we don't like it. we can appreciate what we like and
laud it and we can realise what we don't like and undserstand why. When I
say evil, I don't mean evil in the biblical sense of it, but evil as what
is not generally considered as socially or politically correct stances.
What is the full spectrum of Laibach, Laibachkunst and Neue Slowenische
Kunst in regards to fascism (socialism, collectivism). When a group agrees
to be a group and to speak and think as a group, there is no atrocity
there. The group becomes a macroorganism and can hopefully become more
efficient at the desired task. This is the fundamental desire of fascism
and socialism and collectivism. What we don't like is when we are forced
to be a part of a group that we don't wish to be a part of; those of us
who are free thinkers (I for one...). When a nation or state strives for
assimilation through imperialism and conquest. When people are destroyed
due to race and belief. These are things we can't tolerate. 
 I love to listen to Laibach because the the culture fascinates me and the
politics boggles me. I want to undserstand the motivation. It's am matter
of information and aesthetic gathering for me. I have always been bipolar
morally and politically, evil, good, right and left. Or none. Mostly
wanting to know, not to judge. I have no right to judge, but every right
to learn. When an aesthetic strikes me, I know it...

St. Anthony

--
          / N \   O         Laszt uns're Seelen vom Schimmel befreien!
         |   \ |  || Ph     Laszt uns're Schaedel vom Pilzbewuchs befreien!
         |   | |_O-C-C-OH     Im Aas sielen! (correct my German!)
          \ / /      Ph               aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: ben@NeoSoft.com (Ben Ettinger)
Subject: Re: soleilmoon
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:14:36 GMT

> Could someone post the address for Soleilmoon? While you're at it, if you
> knowof any other places that hard to find stuff could be ordered from
> that'd be great.
>
>  St. Anthony

Soleilmoon's address:
P.O. Box 83296
Portland, Oregon  97283

If you're interested.. Staalplaat's address:
P.O. Box 11453
1001 GL Amsterdam
The Netherlands

ben.

-- 
/I\ Crowned with hoods, and crying with hope, eagle on arm, and /I\
[I] terror in eye, resist and struggle, your faith is a lie.    [I]
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From: u6066061@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,rec.music.misc,alt.music.alternative
Subject: TACK>>HEAD "En Concert"
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:15:49 +1100
Organization: The University of Melbourne


I had a number of people asking for details about the live album (Bootleg?)
(Limited Edition?) "En Concert".  Here is a list of all the info i could 
extract from the CD cover:

Tack>>Head "En Concert"

"Distribution: PLUS AU SUD, 18 rue de Chateaudun, 92250 La Garenne-Columbes
[France]"

Front Cover: Black and White. Insert is a simple card with TACK>>HEAD and En
Concert written in white on a black background.  On the outside of the jewel
case is a large sticker of the moon which glows in the dark(!).

Track Listing:
1.King of the Beat
2.The Game
3.Heaven on Earth
4.The Message
5.Drum Solo
6.Cross Town Traffic
7.Ticking Time Bomb
8.Stormy Weather

Total play time (from memory) about 40 min.

Kieth LeBlanc: batterie, samples, percus, programmes boite a rythmes
Doug Wimbish: basses, guitare, keyboards, samples, chants
Skip McDonald: guitare, keyboards, voix, samples
Adrian Sherwood: mixalogue, ingenieur

"All songs published by Another Note
Music/Rapp Beat Music/
Serious Bass Music
unless otherwise noted" 

- there is also mention of "Intersong Publishing", "Four Hills Publishing Ltd"
and "Lawrence Wright Music".

"Enregistre sur 2 pistes au Ritz a New York en 1988"

"Co-production: Plus Au Sud/OON"
"Creation et realisation graphique: OON"
"Tel [33-1] 47 81 16 09+  Fax: [33-1] 47 86 20 92"

"MMM1 CD"
"PAS 40" - i assume PAS refers to Plus Au Sud

p.s. as you will probably have already gathered, this CD (or at least the
packaging) was "Fabrique en France", and i have left out all of the accents,
etc. - the label OON has a tilda (sp?) (you know...a wiggly line) on the 
first 'O'.

p.p.s. This album is well recorded (thanks to Mr. Sherwood?), with heaps of 
live feel to it.  There is some fantastic playing be all the members - esp Doug
Wimbish and LeBlanc.


Hope this helps all of you obtain your own copy (mine is _not_ for
sale...unless...).  

I know this won't help much, but, En Concert is easily my favorite TACK>>HEAD
album. 


check ya n' happy listening


drew.  (University of Melbourne, Australia.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: NEW/OLD/DANCE/ORIGINAL
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 05:01:04 GMT


 I think it's a small minority of "orginal" industrial fans who bitch
about the newer stuff. My biggest complaint is that I just don't dance, so
I'd like dance music that I can't dance to, because then I won't dance
because I don't want to. Get it? :-) Anyway, I myself don't care hwat
anybody posts on this group as long as it has to do with industrial music,
ideas and icons. I'll weed through the NIN and Ministry posts without
complaint. I actually have nothing against these two bands (even though I
don't listen to them...) but the posts relating to them are usually
incredibly boring...

St. Anthony

--
          / N \   O         Laszt uns're Seelen vom Schimmel befreien!
         |   \ |  || Ph     Laszt uns're Schaedel vom Pilzbewuchs befreien!
         |   | |_O-C-C-OH     Im Aas sielen! (correct my German!)
          \ / /      Ph               aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu
Xref: sparky rec.music.industrial:13738 alt.music.hardcore:522
From: dany@irvine.com (rorschach)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Re: Ministry/Godflesh tour
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:30:47 GMT
Organization: Irvine Compiler Corp., Irvine, California, USA

>   Isn't there supposed to be a tour with Ministry, Godflesh and Helmet
> or Sepultura?  Does anyone know the details and if it will be coming to
> the Cleveland/Pittsburgh area and when?     thanks   Meghan 

Me too... will this lineup be coming to Los Angeles?

desperately need to know.

dany@irvine.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,rec.music.misc,alt.music.alternative
From: vidarh@stud.cs.uit.no (Vidar Hanssen)
Subject: Re: TACK>>HEAD (was Re: REVIEW: Keith LeBlanc: Time Traveller)y
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:22:09 GMT


|> > There is one other disc I can think of off the top of my head...
|> > 
|> > It is called "En Concert"...it is a post-Gary Clail live album..it is a French
|> > import....Mostly instrumental...great stuff...
|> > 
|> > 
|> > Later.
|> > -justin
|> > 
|> Is that the disc with the glow-in-the-dark moon on the cover?  I got the
|> impression when i bought it that 'En concert' is a Bootleg CD and/or a 
|> limited Edition...         


I would love to get my hands on this disc!!
 
Could anyone out there in net-land possibly buy it for me! 
E-mail me, and we'll work out a deal!

Bye,
Vidar

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From: sd09@spitfire.fc.ul.pt (Grupo 09 - Sist. Dist. I)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: (none)
Date: 23 Nov 1992 11:51:55 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

hi.
Can somebody please give me some information about Pankow?
They are coming to Portugal and i don't know if it's worthwhile to see
them live.
much apreciated.
From: st1qb@Jane.UH.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: NIN hidden tracks- names?
Date: 20 Nov 1992 15:53:57 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Reply-To: st1qb@Jane.UH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: jane.uh.edu

In article <By0Eop.GHs@cck.coventry.ac.uk>, mei172@cch.coventry.ac.uk (guru) writes:
>guru sez:
>	a friend of mine has the CD of "Broken" and knows about the extra tracks
>	hidden at the end.		
>
>	Thing is, he doesn't know what they're called- can anyone help?
>-- 
I dont have the CD in front of me but the names of the tracks are on the
CD. Yes, I own it....so flame me.  But anyway, if my memory is correct 
they are on the back or on one of the flaps in very small print.  Although
they are on tracks 98 and 99 they are listed as track 7 and 8 (if i recall) 
in very small print, by the copyright bs.  I know one is a mix of SUCK
from Pigface.

later.... Dave
st1qb@jetson.uh.edu
From: caldwell@cwbio.BIOC.CWRU.Edu (DAVID CALDWELL)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Ministry tour dates
Date: 18 Nov 1992 12:39:17 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hi all,

	Does anyone have dates for the US leg of the Ministry tour?  I'm in
Cleveland, Ohio and the only date I've seen so far is in Detroit.  Thanks
and regards, David Caldwell.

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: torben@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Random Tox)
Subject: Re: Nin
Organization: The Durex Blender Corporation
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:04:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.181120.7943@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Nathan.H.Saunders@dartmouth.edu (Nathan H. Saunders) writes:
>In article <Bxyzzr.CHB@nic.umass.edu>
>torben@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Random Tox) writes:
>
>> 	With regard to the original poster:
>> 		Get a fucking clue.
>
>With regard to those who followed up:
> Get a fucking clue.
>
>Can't you recognize sarcasm without seeing a million :-)s?
>
>The original poster was just baiting you.  It worked.
>
> - nathan

	Yes, but I can also recognize flaming stupidity. It may shock you
to realize the extent to which it has permeated every aspect of our
society.
	And if indeed the little shit was just baiting:
		Get a fucking clue.

	What a wonderful life it is.


	HEy GWUywzzzzzZZZzz!!11!! I THinnke HItler was aGreAt guY!1!1! So
Iss mY fASCist fFrend NatHan FRRom DARtmouT!H!1!!!!


		- Random Tox

		  have fun with this, kiddies.
 

-- 
(C) 1992 by Random Tox and The Durex Blender Corporation
All Rights Available at the Door, No Reservations.

	"If this is the place for you, then herd."
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: scupin@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (SCUPIN  JONATHAN RAYMOND)
Subject: Re: Nin
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:54:12 GMT

Why were you surprised?
Movies often use alternative musik to give those weird punk rock klubs
more of that look-at-what-those-weirdos-are-dancing-to kind of atmosphere.

It happened in Hardware, FreeJack, Bad Influence, and Robocop, to name a few..
 of course, in those movies, decent musik was used, ie ministry/et al and
Skinny Puppy....  not wimpy garbage like nin.

coprophiliac
scupin@rintintin.colorado.edu
shadowshadowshadowWhy?
From: cmoore@lab4.smcm.edu (Christopher Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: more lyrics
Date: 15 Nov 92 23:28:12 GMT

hello everyone
i also have lyrics to most skinny puppy(bites/remission, rabies, tdp,  
cleanse, a few others) and soon i'll most likely have the lyrics to  
minstry's rape and honey, live album, mind, and psalm 69.  send any e-mail  
lyric requests to: cmoore@oyster.smcm.edu
c.morpheus
"we live to succeed in what we die for"