HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick)
Subject: UNREST -- was Re: US shoegazers
Reply-To: cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 21:52:34 GMT


In a previous article, meb6@po.CWRU.Edu (Mason E. Boor) says:

>
>may I mention a band from Virginia called Unrest?  They've had
>such postitive critical acclaim as of late, that I'm surprised
>that I have not heard them mentioned on here.  Acutally,.
>Shoegazer is a very unfair way to describe them, but they do
>that style of slow, drawn-out chording very well ( they played
>at our radio station (WRUW-FM Cleveland) 's summer music 
>festival.  Check em out...the album is Imperial on Teen Beat.

Unrest are fantastic. But "shoegazer" is an EXTREMELY unfair term. Unrest
_never_ stare at their shoes live :)
There was a review of Unrest's live show and their new 7" posted here
recently. Read it. They're also in the new Alternative Press (the one with
Tsunami and Velocity girl on the cover :) :) :)
For people outside the US, _Imperial_ is about to be reissued in the UK by
Guernica/4AD, with bonus tracks. Highly recommended.

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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: nimouat@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Nikos Mouat)
Subject: Re: SURVEY (REPOST)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:07:23 GMT

In article <schnitzi.713712181@eola.cs.ucf.edu>, schnitzi@cs.ucf.edu (Mark Schnitzius) writes:
[....] 
> Here are some submission guidelines:
> 
> o  The order of your list is unimportant.  Just
> put one band per line, no more than ten lines.
> 
> o  I will be automating the analysis, so spell out
> the band names as much as possible.  I will use
> some sort of reasonably intelligent pattern matching
> to compare band and performer names.
> 
> o  Try to include some older bands as well as newer
> ones, but keep this limited to the subject of
> alt.music.alternative.  I have no desire to do this
> for all of rock-n-roll.
> 
> o  Mail your submission to schnitzi@eola.cs.ucf.edu
> no later than Friday, August 21.  Results will follow
> shortly after that.
> 
  o  And DON'T POST YOUR SUBMISSION!!!!!!!!!

> -----
> Mark Schnitzius
> schnitzi@eola.cs.ucf.edu
> 

-A guy who can't stand the "Name bands the begin with a vowel" treads.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: schnitzi@cs.ucf.edu (Mark Schnitzius)
Subject: SURVEY (REPOST)
Organization: University of Central Florida
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:23:01 GMT

In case you missed it the first time:
-----
I am interested in conducting an unusual survey.
The goal of this survey is to compile some sort
of list of bands to check out, given that you like
one particular band.  The results of this survey
I will post in a sort of table that looks something
like the following:

If you like...        You may want to check out....
--------------        ------------------------------
Band X                Band Y, Band Z
Band A                Band B, Band C, Band D
. . .

What I need from everyone is a list of no more
than 10 of your favorite bands.  I will do some
sort of statistical analysis of all the submissions
I receive to come up with the results.

Here are some submission guidelines:

o  The order of your list is unimportant.  Just
put one band per line, no more than ten lines.

o  I will be automating the analysis, so spell out
the band names as much as possible.  I will use
some sort of reasonably intelligent pattern matching
to compare band and performer names.

o  Try to include some older bands as well as newer
ones, but keep this limited to the subject of
alt.music.alternative.  I have no desire to do this
for all of rock-n-roll.

o  Mail your submission to schnitzi@eola.cs.ucf.edu
no later than Friday, August 21.  Results will follow
shortly after that.

-----
Mark Schnitzius
schnitzi@eola.cs.ucf.edu
From: cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: are they a rap group?
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:47:13 GMT
Reply-To: cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, eng20015@nusunix2.nus.sg (GOH KING SHY) says:

>
>	The name Fatima Mansion sounds like one of those rap group.
>	Are they?

No, the Fatima Mansions are more like a semi-industrial pop act. I'd
compare them to a more accesible Foetus.

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(scene but not herd)                 stu_m1cornic@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
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From: carl@bain3.bain.oz.au (Carl Sandland)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: NEW THREAD: Favourite Cure Song
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:16:59 GMT
Organization: Bain & Company, Sydney, AUSTRALIA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Andrew Marks (edf250y@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au) wrote:
> How about this for a new thread... What is you favourite (and least
> favourite) Cure song?
> Anyway, my personal highs and lows are:-
> 
> Best: A Forest (especially live version)
> 	Charlotte Sometimes
> 
> Worst: Let's Go To Bed
> 	Love Cats

	the live version of a forest is the best song EVER ...

	as far as recoreded stuff goes;

	Best:	17 seconds, M, Seimiese Twins
	Worst:  The Caterpillar (the worst easily !)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: umdenbo0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (David A. Denboer)
Subject: Re: Smiths releases
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 02:35:57 GMT

The Morrissey single is out here already (about a week now...)
Haven't yet got it (or the new album...short of cash)

Any opinions on the  new album ?  Should I buy it?

Thanks,
David A. denBoer
-- 
David A. denBoer
Musi Computer Products
umdenbo0@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: conroym@news.colorado.edu (Matthew Conroy)
Subject: Re: Major Label Music is EVIL!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:16:17 GMT

In article <RJC.92Aug18153027@daiches.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> rjc@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Caley) writes:
>In article <1992Aug18.034929.9242@colorado.edu>, I (mc) wrote:
>
>mc> 3. For me (and this is something i haven't seen here, hope i didn't miss
>mc> it), the BAD thing about major labels is that they are, or are owned (i'm
>mc> not sure what the difference is) by HUGE CORPORATIONS, which have the sole
>mc> reasone for existence of making PROFIT...PROFIT is something i am   
>mc> specifically against, 
>
>So, where does your food come from? Manna from heaven?

I find this response interesting for at least two reasons.  First, 
a large part of my food comes from local organic farms who, as far as i know,
do not have huge-corporate ties.  Secondly, even if all of my food
came directly from Exxon, i don't see why i shouldn't try to reduce my
dependence on huge-corporations in other ways...

...you seem to be of the 'if you can't change everything, then
don't change anything' mentality...

>mc> ...HOWEVER, i purchase virtually all of my recorded music USED, 
>
>And of course, the shops you purchase it from are run by eccentric
>millionairs who charge you exactly what they payed someone else for
>the item and live on fresh air?
>

Now, it is clearly you who are missing the point...where i happen to
live, there are used recorded music stores that have, again, as far
as i know, no huge-corporate ties.  They are mostly very nice, down-to-earth
style businesses run by a few people.  I feel that giving my money to such
a business, rather than to a huge-corporation, is beneficial to society.
I believe that hundreds of small businesses is better than one 
huge-corporation.  Thus i support the smaller businesses as often as i can.

In addition, another significant benefit to purchasing used is that it
requires less natural resources, i.e. by purchasing used, i do not put
pressure on the huge-corporation to make another product. 


matt
From: jaffray@sunkist.berkeley.edu (Alan Jaffray)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Opus Three
Date: 21 Aug 92 09:59:47 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
NNTP-Posting-Host: sunkist.berkeley.edu

In article <DAMIR.92Aug4194323@wpi.WPI.EDU> damir@wpi.WPI.EDU (MR. Boy) writes:
>>vishal@ra.csc.ti.com (Vishal Markandey) writes:

>>>Hi, I am looking for information on Opus Three.  I have been hearing
>>>this song of theirs on the radio, "It will be a fine night tonight,
>>>it will be a fine day tomorrow".  Beautiful femle voice, kind of
>>>dreamy and swirly.  Caught my fancy.  Would appreciate any
>>>information such as what CD it is on.

>	domestic full-length album due out in september.

Domestic full-length album out *now*.  I just posted something in alt.rave
about it, but to sum up, if you liked "It's a fine day", GET IT.  The 
whole album has the same sort of appeal, very pretty music, fast-paced
yet very dreamy and swirly as well.  All the songs are marvelous.
It's not repetitive, even though the style is consistent...

By the way, "dreamy" and "swirly" are very good adjectives to describe
the music -- I was failing for words to describe it earlier.

-- Alan
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From: ucjtrjf@ucl.ac.uk (Jonny Farringdon)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Killing Joke sues Nirvana
Date: 19 Aug 92 11:44:10 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium

>>Anyone have any more info on this.  What I've heard is that Killing Joke
>>thinks that Come As You Are sounds awfully like the Eighties.  Apparently
>>they think Nirvana ripped off their song and only now decided to sue.
>>What do people think about this?  Do the songs really sound that alike?

In serious cases like this the lawers get someone like Frank Muir (!! realy !!
uin the uk, well someone from R4's my music) to research the tune, which
usually results in the underlying melody being written by Bach, Motzart, &c.

The defence then uses their `expert' to demonstraight that the tune wasn't
stolen from X, but that they *and* X both derived the tune from great-
classical-composer-Y.



``Mad, bad, and dangerous to know'' is a comparitive example. When one finds
out who realy said it, and when, suddenly ``you stole my idea/words/pictures''
becomes a little pointless.   j.   ucjtrjf@ucl.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: meb6@po.CWRU.Edu (Mason E. Boor)
Subject: Re: Nirvana and Sonic Youth.. The connection..
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 08:23:20 GMT


funny...an interesting side note...Kim Gordon co-produced the
Hole album "Pretty on the Inside" and Lee Ranaldo co-produced the
new Babes in Toyland album.  Both are excellent...though at times
it's hard to tell that they are two different bands....
-- 
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                                                      meb6

WRUW-FM 91.1  Thurs 11pm-2am for the best music in Cleveland! :)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: smhelen@venus.lerc.nasa.gov 
Subject: Help! Who sings "I am the Greatest"
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 12 Aug 1992 08:23 EDT  

Mystery solved! Apparently there's more than one song by that title. The one
I'm looking for is performed by A House on the album _I Am The Greatest_ on
Radioactive/MCA. Thank you Mark Cornic and everyone else that replied!

Helen
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: Mark.Cornick@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Mark Cornick)
Subject: Neo-Metro update
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 00:57:11 GMT


Here's a quick update for the people who, like me, have been waiting on
the Neapolitan Metropolitan triple 7" box set from Simple Machines: My
friend Mickey, who's interning for Jenny and Kristin this summer, says
everything is ready, but it just needs to be assembled, so look for it in
a few weeks. They also have the Mommyheads CD ready to go.

mark cornick                   stu_m1cornic@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
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From: douellet@beach.csulb.edu (Daniel Ouellette)
Subject: Re: New NIN album "Broken"
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:54:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.043602.19156@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> davids@coos.dartmouth.edu (David S. Cohen) writes:
>saxe_dh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Dean H Saxe) writes:
>
>>Ok here's what we have all been waiting for.  The New album by Trent Reznors
>>Nine Inch Nails is due in stores September 23rd.  It will be a 6 song EP
>>titled "Broken."  As most NIN fans know much of the album has been done
>
>only an ep?  it's been three years plus . . .  will there be an accompanying
>album?
>

  I'm not complaining. Considering how long we've been waiting for _any_ 
new material, we'll be lucky if this ep comes out on time.
-Daniel
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From: houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joshua Houk)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Unrest "Teenage Suicide" on CD?
Date: 16 Aug 92 19:37:28 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Aug16.184524.11026@samba.oit.unc.edu> Mark.Cornick@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Mark Cornick) writes:
>
>Gerard, get off his butt? That'll be the day. The fucker still owes me
>$20.
>

Hey - let's all start a Gerard Cosloy Hate Club! He told me that he'd be
putting out 'Best Of Bread Vol. 2'...and the new Toiling Midgets lp is
still nowhere to be seen....AND WE PLAYED THE DAMNED SHAMS RECORD, TOO!

Erg...

-- 
Joshua Houk || houk@athena.cs.uga.edu
Now the question is, are you going to be part of the problem or part of
the solution? I know we all want to be part of the problem...
   - Dr. Cup on-stage banter
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: hernande@cs.tulane.edu (Oliver Hernandez)
Subject: Ride info
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-7864]: okeanos
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:52:11 GMT

 Hi,

    I just got into Ride this summer after I heard their song "Vapor Trail."
I immediately bought their CD "Nowhere", and I think this group is great.
I remember a while back that some info on Ride and some discographies were
posted here.  "Nowhere" is an excellent album (their debut?), and is one of
favorite CDs.  Could anyone post again the info on Ride I saw here, or e-mail
me info?  Thanks in advance.
-- 


=>och

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From: shishka@coos.dartmouth.edu (Rich Yeung)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Siouxsie & the Banshee's?
Date: 18 Aug 92 10:25:08 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

gunter@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Gunter Ahrendt) writes:

>Could someone please email me the date that they split?

what do you mean? they haven't split up...
-r.



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From: drsmith@hamline.edu (jime)
Subject: smiths/morrissey/stuff
Organization: Hamline University, St. Paul, MN.
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 19:03:16 GMT


Whenever I listen to The Smiths I always feel alot better afterward.
Especially songs from _Louder Than Bombs_. Sing Me to Sleep is
my favorite sad song, but it always makes me feel better.
I always find myself listening to Peter Murphy or something and just going
'life really sucks' but I put on Smiths and go 'life really sucks'
and then smile.  I think it is a subconsious reaction???

People give M* to much shit for being depressed, I think he's great.
I can understand being depressed in this world anyway.
Life really sucks   ;(
JAC
*%*
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God save the Queen,  God bless us all


**************************************************************************

all right, here comes more longers.... %-) sorry... but these things happen!

quitee silly that morrissey releases his new album, then a montha and a half
later is on tour...i dunno, he was just in mpls last nov...not even a year
ago...when i got my ticket, the old lady at ticket master said "who? who do you
want tickets for?" i had a good laugh...

when i listen to the smiths, and morrissey, in particular: _viva_hate_,
_louder_than_bombs_, and _the_queen_is_dead_ i get an experience (which i
doubt qualifies as aesthetic, but rather, sentimental) of being in a beautiful
wide open grassy field of hills, blue sky planes rushing about over head on
perfectly splendid "dreaded sunny days"  it reminds me of my adolescence and
about natural religion.  since _viva_hate_ i'd hafta say he's losing me, but i
am beginning to pick up on it a little again...it's not the same without marr,
though.

so, i guess i don't see morrissey and the smiths as depressing at all.  i think
people find what they _want_ to hear...its that kind of thing...being an
english major, i see it all the time in literature, but also in everyday life:
people only take what they want and discard the rest... sorry if this produces
any flames...plus, life does not suck, its what you make of it...considering we
live only once and short, it is time to get a move on...

***nature save us from ourselves, please if you please***

--dans (smith, drsmy)


then: do the smiths or morrissey have an e-mail newsletter of some sort? xtc
has one, but htey have everything, and it is a "pretty okay" one too.  does
anyone know? does anyone care to know? no?

-- 

any size is too sizy for my light eyes

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: att (Bob R)
Subject: Re: Record shops in NYC
Organization: nnn
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 23:07:06 GMT

In article <BsxJ22.HIE@cck.coventry.ac.uk>, ccx009@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Adam Bentley) writes:
> Can anyone supply with a list of decent record stores to check out in 
> New York, as I'll be there sometime towards the end of the month.

I like "Second Coming Records" on Sullivan, just south of Googies Lounge
and Washington Square Park, near NYU.  A small shop, but I have found lots
of rare and unusual things there.  They also seem pretty friendly, as
far as New York alternative record stores go.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
From: aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey)
Subject: Re: The Pursuit of Happiness (TPOH)
Reply-To: aaron@space.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:24:28 GMT

wcsvic@alfred.carleton.ca (Victor Kamutzki) writes:
: owen@emds.enet.dec.com (Steve Owen) writes:
: 
: >Does anyone know what Moe Berg and the rest of "The Pursuit of
: >Happiness" is up to these days?
: 
: Last I heard, they had split up.  Apparently Moe was not the easiest
: guy to get along with.
: 
: >Their last album, One Sided Story, was real cool... but it receved no 
: >promotion and very little radio play.
: 
: Largely because people became disenchanted with them when _Love Junk_
: was released.  If you want my pair of pennies, the only TPOH worth
: having is the original (indie) release of "I'm An Adult Now".  WEA
: signed them after that, and things went downhill.  They lost a lot of
: the edge that they had before that.  Too bad - they were one of the
: better guitar pop bands at the time.

Actually, I was impressed with Love Junk because I heard songs from it being
played both on the local "lite rock" station(She's So Young, Beautiful White)
and on the college "alternative" station(Walking In The Woods, I'm An Adult
Now).  I agree that they ruined I'm An Adult Now on the album, but for the
rest...

I read somewhere a review that said, "If the Bangles and the Ramones had
children, they'd sound like the Pursuit of Happiness."  Sounds like you just
wanted the Ramones...

Perhaps I'm biased because Moe Berg is originally from Edmonton--I get that
way.

--
---Alfvaen(a.k.a. Nysinra, rot13 Psycho)
"So you found a girl who thinks really deep thoughts
 what's so amazing about really deep thoughts"  -- Tori Amos
Current Album--Tom Tom Club:Boom Boom Chi Boom Boom
Current Read--Henry David Thoreau:Walden and Other Writings
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Subject: Re: Alternative Guide to Winnipeg (part 1 - very short)
Keywords: alternative none
Organization: Victoria University of Technology
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 07:56:46 GMT

rmartin@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard Martin) writes:

>There is no Alternative Music happening in Winnipeg to any great extent.
>Stay away from Winnipeg. I live in a dead town. I think I will sleep now.
>Its a friday night.

Wasn't it Neil Young who said

"We packed up all our bags,
 And drove out to Winnipeg.

 When we got to Winnipeg,
 I checked into school."

Hey that's an idea, a thread on songs that mention towns of more
specifically Winnipeg.

Jed


Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: wilbanks@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Dylan Wilbanks)
Subject: INDIE NET - Debate
Keywords: indie net 
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:00:14 GMT

OK, This post is to generate debate over a spin-off group from a.m.a 
(alt.music.alternative, not the American Medical Association). The 
hope is that we can get this issue settled, once and for all, whether
it ends with a new group or not.

Questions:
1. How should "indie" be defined? The independant labels of the US, 
the US as well as UK indie labels, or a select group from each? Would 
local bands from non-major cities (meaning Denver, Phoenix, Omaha, Tulsa 
vs. The Tri-State Area (NY-NJ-CT), Chicago, LA, or the Bay Area) be included?
2. If this group were to be generated, would you read it? How often? 
3. Who do you nominate for the admin position? (Mine is for that ever-humble
whiz-kid from NJ, Mr. Justin G. Goh)
4. Finally, What name should it be given? alt.music.alternative.indie, 
alt.music.indie, rec.music.independant, etc.?



-- 
Dylan Wilbanks, Classics major, AND NOW Environmental Conservation!
"Look! An X-man movie's coming out!"          |Currently at:
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