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From: tillis@icpsr.umich.edu (Eddie Tillis)
Subject: Re: Frightening Halloween ideas wanted
Organization: Inter-University Consortium for Political and Social Research
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:21:48 GMT

In article <7OCT199216210307@venus.tamu.edu> wwg2101@venus.tamu.edu (GILPIN, W.W.) writes:
>
>I'm faced with a similar problem. Our dorm is putting on a haunted house
>for Halloween and I'm kinda in charge of the first floor. We have a 60 ft
>hall with residence rooms doors opening onto the hall and two bathrooms.
>The TV room is also available which is right in the middle of the hallway
>(basically two residence rooms with the wall between knocked out and mostly
>empty), so most of the possibilities reside in there. There's a stairway
>up to the other floors at the end of the hall and around a corner. Any ideas
>that you or other netters have would also be welcome here! NOTE: we will
>only have about 3 hours to set this thing up, since it's a one-nighter.
>
>One thing that you may find interesting and not too expensive would be to
>suspend lengths of chain from the ceiling a la HELLBOUND. The sound of the
>chains clanking together combined with the darkness of the room and the shadows
>make for a very chilling effect. You might want to consider adding this touch
>to your room of dead/dying bodies.
>

This is the first thing I thought of too!  It would be easy to recreate
the "flying" chains using nylon fishing line as a guide line and tied to
hooks on the ends of the chains and pulled from inside/behind a replica
of the "pillar of pieces" from the movie.

Good Luck! 
ET
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From: ugabarra@mcl.ucsb.edu (Il Viaggiatore)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: alt.horror.cthulhu
Date: 11 Oct 92 18:18:57 GMT

It looks like a celebration is in order!!  alt.horror.cthulhu LIVES!!!!!!!!
Now all we need is to get a good discussion going, what do you say?  Why don't
we just pop on over to .cthulhu and start one up.  In fact I've been seeing a
little bit of traffic about Lovecraft's grave site, that sounds like an 
interesting start to a newsgroup devoted to horror.  What do you all think?
First, does he have a grave site, and second where is it?

cya l8r >8=;==;==---'

	Il Viaggiatore

What you call hell, he calls a children's story!

	Cthulhu
From: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: the keep - continues?
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:11:30 GMT
Reply-To: ken@austin.ibm.com
Distribution: alt
Organization: IBM, Austin


#I believe the keep was directed by Michael Mann, shortly before he did
#"Manhunter"/"Red Dragon" and went to TV to create "Miami Vice".

Actually, it goes:

-Thief
-The Keep
-Miami Vice
-Manhunter

etc. up to "Last of the Mohicans." There's probably a couple of other
films I left out (A TV movie called "L.A. Takedown" and I think he had
some part in "Band of the Hand").

I wish he'd make another movie like "The Keep."

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THIS POSTING DOES NOT REPRESENT THE OPINIONS OF MY EMPLOYERS.
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"The killer awoke before dawn, he put his clown shoes on, and
             he ... flopped on down the hall..."
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From: harsh@flammulated.owlnet.rice.edu (Anish Harshad Masharani)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: King short stories
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:13:49 GMT
Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas

I believe this story is also in _The Dark Descent_.
--
Both God and the government watch over us constantly,
	but we don't pay God taxes.

					The King of Fools
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From: mlm@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael McCool)
Subject: Gene Lazutta
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Organization: CSO Resource Center
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:04:35 GMT


Has anyone read some of Gene Lazutta's work?  I just finished _Blood_Flies_,
which I thought was good, and _Vyrmin_, which I thought was better.  The 
thing I liked about the stories was that they were novel-length, but as 
Robert McCammon says in _Blue_World_, they're like sports cars where most
novels are limousines.  Both were very exciting, edge of your seat type 
books, and Vyrmin was an interesting adaptation of the traditional werewolf
myth...

I'm probably going to pick up the other book I know of that he has that I
can't recall the name of, about a serial killer.
	--MLM
--
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/ oo \  Mike McCool 
\ .. /  mlm@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
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 \__/   "Well, you're certainly in touch with your anger."  --Frank Drebbin
From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Chilly Billy
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:41:00 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <QeoWRWO00WCX02YnQ6@andrew.cmu.edu> fy03+@andrew.cmu.edu (Francis J. Yenca) writes:
>Laurel writes:
>>spooky stuff (at least the first time around)! I kept looking out my windows
>>for zombies...
>>		Laurel
>
>What did you do when you saw them?
>Frank

I invited them in for tea of course (they were very rude, though, they must
have been hungry!).
			Laurel


__________________"I am Count Dracula. I bid you welcome."__________________

Laurel A. Povazan                                "There is nothing there
laurelp@vms.cis.pitt.edu                          in the dark that isn't
                                                  there in the light---
(Also known as Laurel,                            except fear."  
 the avid horror fan!)                                 -Advertising line  
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From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: The NET-ronomicon
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 03:58:11 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Oct15.031226.22699@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Mitchell.Porter@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Mitchell Porter) writes:
> Seeing as there are so many different versions of the Necronomicon around,
> why don't "we" (interested people on Usenet) make our own?

Ah, the foolish mortals persist in their delusions. I warn you once more:  the
Necronomicon is not to be trifled with!

And yet...I do see merit in this idea, for there are certain texts of the Book
known only to true blooded disciples, in addition to the dire books available
to the common masses. Perhaps it is time that a small portion of this insane
enlightenment be made known, that it not all be lost. I shall consult with the
Elders upon this.

> This is a damn
> vague idea, true, but there are lots of creative people out there, many of
> them with lots of time on their hands (to judge by the traffic on talk.
> bizarre, alt.cascade etc).

Nay, these great numbers of postings indicate that the users lack time to do
otherwise. Else they too would rejoice in the coming of the great Cthulhu!

> If Colin Wilson and L Sprague de Camp can make
> up a Necronomicon, so can we! All the fake scholarly answers that have
> been posted in response to naive posters asking "Is the Necronomicon real,
> after all?" could be collated, together with some purported rituals,
> texts by Abdul Alhazred, etc.

Fake you say?! Death will come to those who play with the Necronomicon! Do not
fool with these lesser beings, it will spell your sure doom! I beg of you, do
not share a ritual unless you are sure it is true! Test these charms yourself,
lest you unwittingly share a recipe of doom with the ignorant!

--Semhaza
From: sjm1@eng.cam.ac.uk (Stephen Mounsey)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: John Farris
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:07:35 GMT
Organization: cam.eng

jpurlia@qualcomm.com (John Purlia) writes:

>Who else besides me finds John Farris to be an excellent author?  I was
>extremely skeptical of him before I dared to make my first purchase because
>I thought he was lumped into that "supermarket" brand of horror, but each
>of his novels has been great!  I especially recommend "Son Of The Endless
>Night" and "The Axeman Cometh" (which probably frightened me more than
>anything I've ever read).  There's one other that was pretty cool as well
>that I can't quite recall...  "Wildwood" or something like that.

I hadn't read him until recently, but one of our remaindered-book shops
had a few of his books for a quid each so I bought "Son of the Endless Night"
and "Wildwood". I like his writing style a lot, and I thought the first
2/3rds or so of "Son..." was very good and dealt rather vividly with its
demonic possession theme. I wasn't quite so convinced with the ending -
rather too _Deus ex machina_ for me - it failed to sustain the imaginative
level of the first part and tended towards mumbo jumbo. Still, nobody's
perfect.

Just started "Wildwood" but haven't read enough to comment, except I still
like his style.

                         -Stephen.
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:32:13 -0400 
From: "Francis J. Yenca" <fy03+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Chilly Billy
	<7571@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>

Laurel writes:

>>>I invited them in for tea of course (they were very rude, though, they must
>>>have been hungry!).
>>
>>What kind of tea do you serve zombies?
>>(Just so I can learn the proper etiquette--or alternately, to know
>>what type of tea to look forward to should I ever become a zombie)
>>Frank (who usually favors creatures other than zombies, but
>>just might happen to get mistaken for one at times)
>
>
>I gave them Lipton tea. They don't go for the fancy kinds, but if you become a
>zombie, I'll give you Chamomile...

You know, I would really like to respond to this, but I don't know what 
"Chamomile" is.

Does this mean that I should want to become a zombie? ;)

Frank
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Frightening Halloween ideas wanted
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:42:37 GMT

well the most obvious is set it up like a laboratory .. its real easy .. and u can get dry ice to d othe smokey bubble effects ... else u can go out and buy cobwebs and slime and slime the room up ... 
good luck.
---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
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From: ag349@yfn.ysu.edu (David S. McMeans)
Subject: Frightening Halloween ideas wanted
Reply-To: ag349@yfn.ysu.edu (David S. McMeans)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:43:50 GMT




Greetings,

  I've been assigned to oversee a 'room' in a community haunted house
this year, and I want to make it very frightening.  The problem is I have
only one room.  I don't have the entire 'house' to work with.  So, I'm
looking for good ideas.  I want to stay away from the typical monster-
jump-out-at-you-and-all-the-females-scream type approach as this works
usually only for the females.  Also, since I have only one room, I really
can't utilize suspense very well (which would be my best option).  If I
kept visitors in my room for 20 or 30 minutes the rest of the 'house'
would begin to complain, and besides we'd have terrible throughput.
So, if you just _happen_ to have any good ideas, or you've been dying to
design your own haunted house ever since you were a little kid and were
disappointed with what your community offered, then THIS is you opportunity.
  Just so you have an idea what I've got to work with, I have a long hall,
about 60 ft, that opens to a large chamber, maybe 60x40 ft.  I can make this
area as dark as I want, so that's not a problem.  I can get a smoke machine
if I want, and I also have a large movie screen (15x20 or so) at my disposal.
I also have, of course, lots of eager actors.
  I should also mention that the 'theme' of my room is Hell, so the more
hellish the better.  Note: the fire marshall won't allow open flames.
(I know, spoils the charm of Hell, doesn't it.)
  The rest of the 'house' can be a little hooky at times (I'm not in charge
of those areas), so I want my area to be exceptionally disturbing,
exceptionally real, and exceptionally unforgettable.
  Some ideas I'm toying with:
    *  the visitors turn a corner and stumble upon a prone body, sufficiently
       mutilated (as much as I can fake).  There's also a pile a fresh
       vomit near the head.  Smells like vomit too.  (I'm not sure how to
       do this one)
    *  the group is lead into a pitch black room, suddenly a curtain falls
       and a wall of entangled bodies is exposed (probably with a slow
       strobe light) perhaps some of the hapless figures are strung up, or
       on torture devices, etc.
    *  the group walks into a lightless room.  After a few moments they realize
       something is in one corner, something large.  It calls to them,
       and converses with them explaining that they are now in it's domain
       (hell), and invites them to partake of it's unique pleasures.  Then
       go on to display to previous two notions, or worse.  This would be
       to most difficult because the thing would _have_ to be realistic.
  Let me know your ideas.  I'll let everyone interested know how it all
turns out.  It would be best to send your ideas to me directly at

  ag349@yfn.ysu.edu

Thanks in advance,

Yr humble net neighbor,

David S McMeans
-- 
David S McMeans
Youngstown Free-Net: ag349@yfn.ysu.edu
The Best Place To Reach Me: david@array.fibg.wpafb.af.mil
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: hadgraft@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (Roger Hadgraft, Civil staff, ext 4983)
Subject: WfW macro to convert files to WinHelp format
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 05:48:34 GMT

I posted an item yesterday to announce a Word for Windows macro which 
translates a DOC file into the WinHelp format. The files (HELPOUTL.ZIP and 
HELPOUTL.TXT) have been uploaded to FTP.CICA.INDIANA.EDU. They should be in 
the UPLOADS directory for a few days, then should be moved to 
the WINWORD directory, I would assume.
--------------

			Help Use Outline
			----------------

A Macro for translating Word files into Windows Help files

Introduction
------------

Tired of trying to build Windows Help files? 

Trying to maintain printed documentation as well as on-line help files?

This macro is for you!

Encapsulated in a Template file, HELPFILE.DOT for Word for Windows, the macro 
uses the document's outline structure (defined by the heading 1, heading 2, etc 
styles to build a hierarchically structured HLP file. Cross references can also 
be defined (but are only processed by the registered version - US$20=AUD$28 for 
registration - a mere pittance).

This macro means that you can take a standard Word file with appropriate styles,
and create a Windows Help file (assuming you have the Windows Help Compiler).

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Monash University, Clayton, Victoria, AUSTRALIA, 3168.
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e-mail: roger.hadgraft@eng.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: dhirmes@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Comparing hypertext and the Internet
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:28:42 GMT

I'm doing a large project comparing the concepts behgind hypertext and
how they may also apply to  the Internet.  Areas I see that are comparable:
	-depositories of information (obviously)
	-non-linear
	-decenteredness
	-multivocality
	-participitory

I'm also going to explore ideas for combining these two concepts (beyond that
of applications like gopher and www).

Any comments, suggestions, or references would be greatly appreciated.


david hirmes
dhirmes@hamp.hampshire.edu

Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: ackerman@athena.mit.edu (Mark S. Ackerman)
Subject: Re: hypertext widget
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:39:34 GMT

FYI -

About a month ago, I posted an inquiry about hypertext widgets in any
Xt widget set.  I got several responses, but the basic answer was:
zip.  Someone kindly pointed to John Leggett at Texas A&M, but their's
is vaporware.  Project Athena at MIT at one point wrote one, but it's
"really old and buggy".  ICS sells one for the Motif set, but it takes
Framemaker input only and is a replacement for the Motif help widget.
A couple of people at the X Consortium didn't know of anything.

			Mark Ackerman
			("Ack")
			MIT/Center for Coordination Science

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From: bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Downing)
Subject: Re: IBM hypercard-like programs
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix & Think_Tank BBS
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:12:46 GMT

In article <IeqkKnK00WB6R0c1l_@andrew.cmu.edu> Joe Melvin <jm7f+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Hi -
>
>What's the latest word on HyperCard-like programs for the IBM PC world?
>Is there anything comparable?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Joe Melvin

There is a new tool for Windows called Windowcraft that's based on
Hypercard concepts. It's marketed by Windowcraft, 1000 Main Street,
Acton, MA 01720, Phone 508-263-7674. It's more of an application
development tool than strictly hypertext, but it may be worth looking
at.


-- 
Bill Downing, President		Email: bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us		
DOWNING ASSOCIATES, INC.
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508-435-4567
From: 2034bang@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Steve Bang)
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
Subject: Re: IBM hypercard-like programs
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:37:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.174922.6105@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> joslyn@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Cliff Joslyn) writes:


>Is there anything in DOS that will read Hypercard stacks?

Just this past week I received some promotional literature
from Windowcraft Corporation about their product, Windowcraft.
I'll try to summarize what they *claim* about Windowcraft below.

Windowcraft is supposed to convert HyperCard 2.x or 1.25 stacks
into Windows applications.  I just talked to Martin Oakes, VP,
on the phone.  He says that HC files converted to Windowcraft
run much faster than HC files that have been converted to Plus
or ToolBook files.  

Windowcraft IS a development tool, contrary to what someone else
just posted.  Windowcraft's scripting language, ClearTalk, is an
extension of HyperTalk, so scripts can run unmodified.  If you know
HyperTalk, you can easily begin writing ClearTalk scripts.
Windowcraft provides 34 styles of objects, supports the multimedia
extensions to Windows, includes a source-level debugger, fully
supports DDE to hotlink to other programs, is easily extended through
DLLs, and includes a royalty-free license for distributing applications.

According to Martine Oakes, there have been reviews of Windowcraft
in one of the June issues of MacWeek and in a Michael Swaine column
in the September issue of Dr. Dobb's Journal.  Dan Shafer, author
of The Complete Book of HyperTalk 2 and the documentation for
Spinnaker Plus, mentioned in a Compuserve forum (this past June) that
moving fairly complex HyperCard stacks to Windowcraft took less than
20 minutes and only 12 discrepancies, anomalies, and errors (compared
to 1.5 hours of machine time and over 100 problems when converting
the same set of HC stacks to ToolBook).

If you want more information, contact:

     Windowcraft Corporation
     1000 Main Street
     Acton, MA 01720-9859
     
     Phone: (800) 828-2268
     Fax:   (508) 263-4158

If you buy Windowcraft (or use it), post comments so that the rest
of us can learn more.

Steve
  
--
Steven K. Bang                              !  The empires of the future
Sciences-Engineering Library                !    are the empires of the mind.
University of California at Santa Barbara   !      
e-mail: skbang@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu             !           -- Winston Churchill
From: langston@memstvx1.memst.edu (Mark C. Langston)
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
Subject: Questions about HT research.
Summary: help
Date: 14 Oct 92 06:16:50 GMT
Organization: Memphis State University


   I have several requests, so please bear with me:  (gearing up for another
intense session of hypertext research...)

a)  Is anyone aware of any talk-aloud protocols collected on users of
      hypertexts, or any other research uncovering the goals underlying
      ht navigation patterns?

b)  Is anyone aware of any empirical research supporting the efficiency of
      relational (aka 'network') links in ht for the purposes of information
      retrieval or complex tasks?

c)  Is anyone aware of any _in_depth_ analyses of _what_ kind of ht navigation
      patterns arise, and under _what_ circumstances?

d)  Are there any existing ht systems with data collected for the prupose of
      evaluating the above information in Mac HyperCard format, and, if so,
      does anyone know where the paper/stack could be retrieved from (I am
      looking to replicate a study or two using a radical new organizational/
      navigational technique)

and, finally,

e)  Is anyone aware of any papers dealing with the _task-related_ effectiveness
      of various navigational tools?

Thanks much...

Anyone wishing to send me papers they have worked on, please feel free...
  Mark C. Langston
  Department of Psychology
  Memphis State University
  Memphis, TN  38152

  langston@memstvx1.memst.edu

Also, anyone interested in my research, I would gladly provide refs/papers, and
upcoming presentation dates/locations...

Again, thanks..




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  Psychology Dept.   |  "Always listen to experts.  They'll tell you what can't
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