HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: verma@pfeast.enet.dec.com (Virendra Verma)
Subject: Re: GODSE = HITLER
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 21 JAN 93 09:54:16    


In article <1993Jan20.053746.1147@fuug.fi>, an6652@anon.penet.fi writes...
> 
> 
>In article <1993Jan18.211244.1@woods.ulowell.edu>, bajunaida@woods.ulowell.edu writes...
>> 
>>Mahatma Gandhi was killed by a Hindu !
>> 
>> 
> 
>>	John F. Kennedy was killed by a Christian. Hitler was a
> 
>	>Christian.
> 
>	>Will you now stop this non-sense. ??? 
> 
> 
>      So you have proved the following eqautions dear ...
> 
>		Hitler        =   NathuRAM Godse
>		BJP/RSS       =   Natzi
> 
> 
>		Virendra Verma =  Neo Natzi ( or a racist pig )

	No, I didn't. I stopped the guy from proving that the Hindu movement
	is bad because (in his opinion) a Hindu killed Gandhi. I tried
	to give a counter example and waited for his response if he is
	ready to generalize christians too.

	Didn't imagine that our Indian blood has been polluted beyond repair.
	If calling me 'Neo Natzi' makes you happy, so be it. You can hide
	your nature that way in the hope of fooling people. That's fine
	with me. An evil nature is always evil. Labeling a nature doesn't
	make it evil.

namaste,

-- Virendra Verma
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From: ajay@mercury.aichem.arizona.edu (Ajay Shah)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: (misleading) Indian Express Advertisement re: RJB
Date: 21 Jan 93 12:18:30 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science


Bapa Rao,

Thanks you for the following post:

I have since been informed that Mr. Shah obtained Dr. Sastry's message
from the India Alert mailing list. While I don't believe that a message
posted to a mailing list automatically becomes public, there would seem
to be at least some question about the privacy of messages to a list such
as India Alert which I understand is fairly large. 

In the light of this, I am withdrawing my quoted comments about Mr. Shah. 
For the record, I still consider the manner of Mr. Shah's use of Dr.
Sastry's message to be quite ugly, falling into the McCarthyist 
red-baiting class.

Bapa Rao
--------------------

My response:

However, please remember that the attacks such as RSS/VHP = Nazi
were initiated by Pramarth - explicitly in both his messages 
(to  India Alert and S.C.I.).  All we did was point out what he
had written.  McCartyism, is attaching unsubstantiated labels.
Pramath explictly called VHP/RSS Nazi, whereas we just reposted
his note, which admits that Prof. Jayraman is cognet because he 
is a Marxist. Why haven't you chastized the Nazi-calling class?
Should double standards on your part make me feel once again, 
that only Nationalist Hindus are victims of name-calling?


***********************
Ajay Shah
ajay@mercury.aichem.arizona.edu
**************************
From: seetam@hub.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Uday Bhaskar Sarma)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: ... part 3 : secularism ....
Date: 21 Jan 1993 17:32:26 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Missed the following para in the previous 2 parts....

If there is a need for a India, as it is RIGHT now, it is only for the 
purpose of security, a la, the herds on the african graaslands.  I am
an optimist, and dont forsee any security problems, to any country in the 
sub-continent in the coming future.  200 yrs from now, --- I cant be sure. 
Other than security, this concept of india, indian identity, indian charcter 
and a whole lot of junk, that comes with today's india are just excuses 
for the secularists to maintain a `feeding ground' on which to live.  Cut 
their umblical cord.  They are sucking us dry of our culture and the future 
that we see for all of us.  A pancayat raj, with villages/cities being hindu or 
muslim of their choice, and all living together as a federation or a
fruitful economic collective, thats what I dream about...

Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sjayaram@uceng.uc.edu (Shankar Jayaraman)
Subject: e-mail address for TCS Delhi.
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:49:55 GMT


CAN SOMEONE HELP ME ON THIS PLEASE?? THANKS IN ADVANCE.

Shankar
From: doshi@rwja.umdnj.edu (Neha Doshi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: In search of exciting JAIN GUYS!!!
Summary: JAIN GUYS
Keywords: JAIN GUYS
Date: 23 Jan 93 05:12:44 GMT
Organization: Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Piscataway NJ

Hello everyone out there in SCI land:

My name is Neha Doshi. I am looking for a nice guy leading to a permanent
relationship. I am a 2nd year medical student at Robert Wood Johnson Medical 
School in New Brunswick, NJ, USA. I was born in the US and my parents are from
Kapadwunj, Gujurat. My computer-nerd friends put me up to this so here goes...

	My only stipulations are:

	1) Between the ages of 23 - 26
	2) Vegetarian Jains ONLY!
	3) Preferably Gujrathi
	4) Likes to have fun.
	5) Preferably East Coast.
	6) Established professional, or in professional school.
	7) Someone intellectually and culturally driven.
	8) Free thinking and independent.

If you meet all the above criteria and are interested in meeting an
exciting young women, please respond to me directly at the following
internet address. I check my mail infrequently so be patient. And if I
don't respond that I wasn't interested, nothing personal though. Feel
free to mail me scanned pictures of yourself, my hacker friends said
they'd help me view them.


Neha Doshi
doshi@rwja.umdnj.edu


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From: unarayan@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Usha Narayanan)
Subject: Bridegroom wanted
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 11:52:49 GMT

Alliance invited from Tamil speaking Iyers for sister-in-law, 29 yrs,
Physicst and lecturer in a Women's College, currently residing in
India. For further details, contact one of the following addresses:

email address:
	unarayan@gmuvax2.gmu.edu
	s.krishnamurthy@gte.sprint.com 

Postal address (USA):			Postal Address (India):
	Usha & Srini Krishnamurthy    	Mrs. Lakshmi Krishnamurthy
	211 Curry Ford Lane 		169 Vasavinagar Colony,
	Gaithersburg, MD 20878		Kharkana,
	USA				Secunderabad - 500003, India
	(301) 258 0692 (H)		(842)-846725 (Residence)
	(703) 848 1343 (W)


Thanks
Usha & Srini
From: pavan@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu (A.Pavan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Indian Dance troupe (Kathak) performing in NA
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:57:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.C1HH4I.r8
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

Nritya Jyoti Dance Inc., based in Minneapolis, MN, presents "That Tremendous
Word - LOVE", a thematic presentation of various aspects of love. Based on
Kathak, the classical storytelling dance style of North India, choreographer
Rita Mustaphi, expresses the emotion of love and its manifestations in
creation, preservation and destruction. The stories are chosen from the
centuries old rich mosaic of epics, mythology and folklore of India.

Nritya Jyoti Dance Inc. is fortunate to have the talents of visiting artists
from India, who will be performing in both dance and music. They are -
Santosh Kumar, a well known choreographer/dancer whose choreography will
also be presented in these shows; Rajeev Chakrabarty, an accomplished Sarod
artist and singer, Kousic Sen, a wizard in the Indian Drums - Tabla, and
vocalist Debasis Sarkar.

"That Tremendous Word - Love" will be presented in colorful traditional
costumes from India.

In the Kathak style of Indian Classical dance, the storyteller uses dance,
music, poetry and mime along with visual arts of painting and sculpture
which makes Kathak dance a well rounded experience of Indian arts.

This production of "LOVE" will be dramatically expressed over a cycle of life,
from unhurried infancy, through childhood, the mischievous youth, the 
responsible adulthood and the twilight years of humans. Love will be used as 
a common thread to tie the stages of life. The rich language of gestures
and mime in Kathak style of Indian classical dance will be used to interpret
the mood created by the melody. There will be narrative elements to help
the audience understand better.

If you would like to organize a performance of the same in September - 
November 1993, in your area, please contact :

Rita Mitra Mustaphi
Nritya Jyoti Dance Inc.
5444 Orchard Ave. N.
Crystal, MN, 55429

Ph # : (612)537-8291

*****

Nritya Jyoti Dance Inc. is a non-profit organization of Asian Indians in
Minnesota, established to promote educational, cultural and artistic needs
of the community, through the creation, presentation and sponsorship of
artistic, cultural and educational endeavors. The purpose of Nritya Jyoti
is to present, promote and train new talents in Indian performing arts
and thus encourage creativity in the field of Indian dance.

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From: spillutla@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: LOOKING FOR EZAZ ZAHEER
Date: 24 Jan 93 18:30:10 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

LOOKING FOR EZAZ ZAHEER FROM MADRAS.
-------------------------------------

I AM LOOKING FOR EZAZ ZAHEER WHO IS NOW IN ONE OF THE CANADIAN UNIVERSITIES 
NEAR TORONTO,CANADA.
ANY INFORMATION ABOUT HIM MAY KINDLY BE SENT TO

SPILLUTLA@MEMSTVX1.MEMST.EDU
OR
SPILLUTLA@MEMSTVX1.BITNET
OR 
CALL (901) 452-8624
     (901) 678-3733

THANKS IN ADVANCE.

S.PILLUTLA 







Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana)
Subject: Re: Sanjeev Mahajan in his own words.
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:03:33 GMT

In article <k+k3a1p@rpi.edu> divaka@rpi.edu writes:
>I remember this posting of Sanjeev Mahajan's. I dont know why I have
>been "elevated" to membership of the IPSG, an organization that I have
>never been a part of and never will be. Frankly, it has too many dogmatic
>marxists in it for my liking. In fact, singing Communist revolutionary
>songs in the US by well fed Indian students strikes me as being incongruous
>to say the least.
>        Please desist from conferring IPSG membership on undeserving people
>like me. The mantle of pseudo-secularism is heavy as it is. Since when
>did IPSG members acquire the exclusive right to be secular? Sanjeev Mahajan
>has, IMHO, extreme views that he is entitled to, and I do not agree with
>all of them. 

hi! don't blame me. I did not confer on you that citizenship. I only
recalled that someone else has confered one upon you. It actually is
nice to see that you disown IPSG. I hope more will come forward
about these elements including some others that you have mentioned.

...kt
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: aluru@IASTATE.EDU (Srinivas Aluru)
Subject: Re: Islam - a religion that breeds trouble
Reply-To: aluru@IASTATE.EDU (Srinivas Aluru)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 01:47:22 GMT

In article <C1A5r3.7tn@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, rafatm@sage.cc.purdue.edu
(unknown) writes:
> In article <lm0o7jINN9mn@kalahari.cs.utexas.edu>, anshu@cs.utexas.edu
(Anshuman Goyal) writes:
> > Muslims right now have problems with the followers
> > of all major religions in the world. In India they
> > fight with the hindus, In middle east and elsewhere
> > with the jews, in Bosnia,and parts of USSR with
> > the christians. Does it not suggest something wrong
> > with them
> 
>   No it doesn`t. In India they are oppressed by Hindu`s. In Israel they are
> unlawfuly deprived of their homeland. In Bosnia they are slaughtered because
> they are of a different race. And in Russia untll recently, they were denied
> the right to practive their own religion......

  Recently, in Saudi Arabia, a hindu is punished by state for practicing 
his religion in the privacy of his own home. I wonder why....

-aluru
> 
> 
> cheers
> Rafat Sadiq
>  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: tolia@chiller.ecn.purdue.edu (Anish Arun Tolia)
Subject: Re: Hindu-Muslim Clashes in Bombay/Delhi - 4 Dead
Keywords: Hindu Muslim Clashes
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:43:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.182044.1285@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> bond@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Girish) writes:
>In article <1993Jan27.141754.526@ulysses.att.com> bala@research.att.com (Bala Krishnamurthy) writes:
>>[........]
>>	   Many Hindus in Bombay resent the fact that the city allows its
>>minority Muslim population to pray outside mosques on Fridays, and
>>they are responding by praying in the streets themselves.
>>[........]
>
>    In Pune, the district administration decided last week not to allow
>    Muslim prayers/Maha-Aaratis on roads/in public places. Similarly,
>    in Nanded district of Maharashtra, the local authorities have asked
>    the mullahs not to shout from the mosques.
>
>    Why such measures are not being taken in Mumbai?
>
>    -- Girish.
>
>
>
Hey Girish,

I have refrained from responding to your earlier posts but I am getting fed up
of your "Mumbai" crap. First you have the audacity to tell us that the Shiv Sena (may
they all rot in hell) SAVED BOMBAY ,( like Hitler saved Europe right?) and you 
even support your statements by quoting Shiv Sena propoganda rags like Samna. And you
consistently refer to BOMBAY as mumbai which reminds me of billboards saying "Sundar
Mumbai, Marathi Mumbai". (Beautiful Bombay, Marathi Bombay). The Shiv Sena is a goonda
party led by a fanatical facsist leader who I believe is the single cause of the
latest riots in Bombay. He is surpassed is evilness only by the BJP/RSS/VHP combine
not because of his intentions, but just because of his limited influence. 

Anish
.
From: rangana@cs.uwindsor.ca (RANGANATHAN A            )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: fabricated posts ("sneaky posts" a la Vijay Fafat)
Date: 21 Jan 1993 16:15:23 GMT
Organization: University of Windsor, Ontario, Canada

In article <1993Jan21.043410.13790@ncsu.edu> ssd@eos.ncsu.edu (Srikant Sridevan) writes:
>Feminazis *always* take things far too seriously. FFT's point is totally
	   ^^^^^^^^
You mean to say, you had doubts about this ? ;-O

>>Am I going to regret saying this?
>>Amitabha

You certainly managed to get a response from one of the strong, silent types.
 ;-). Amitabha maybe you should join us feminazis ;-).

>Srikant

Arathi.


-- 
See simplicity in the complicated
	- Lao Tzu
From: banerjee@hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: (misleading) Indian Express Advertisement re: RJB
Date: 26 Jan 1993 13:06:58 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: hsc.usc.edu

ghosh@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Sanjoy Ghosh) writes:

>In order to forestall getting the SN treatment I will concede at the
>outset that you know best.  

Oh thank you. You are so humble and gracious. Anyway, to avoid being 
Nimmalaed, you should also point out that I am always right and that I can
never be wrong. That itself confers no immunity, but on the other hand
you might just get away with it.

>After having done that, let me just point 
>out that Mr J asserted that according to the Constitution Hindus cannot 
>own property in Kashmir.  

As far as I remember, he said Hindus cannot BUY property in Kashmir, 
although I would have preferred that he use the more generic Indian
term. In any case, article 370 which went into effect in 1948-49
prevents people from the rest of the country transacting in real estate
Kashmir, unless they can prove that they are residents of the state.
Considering that Hindus comprise roughly 30% of a 10 miilion population
in J&K, the remaining 600 odd million Hindus (or 800 million Indians) are
ineligible to own property. In short, the bulk of the Indian (and by default)
the Hindu population is constitutionally barred from owning real estate
in Kashmir. Hence, I dont see what you are getting at.

>I happen to know several Hindus who do own 
>property in Srinagar.  If that doesn't make Mr. J's statement a lie, 
>please educate.  If that did not take care of the burden of proof on 
>me, again please educate.

If the above paragraph dosen't educate, please let me know.

>>It wasn't my intention to take sides in this dispute, even though you may 
>>think otherwise.

>Irrelevant, in either case.

Maybe and may be not. Depends on wether it's your perception that I have an
imaginary axe to grind.

Samit


-- 
Samit Banerjee,			    |  
University of Southern California   |  A man who smiles when things go wrong,
Internet: banerjee@scf.usc.edu      |  has found somebody to blame it on.
Bellnet : (213) 342-1401            |
From: bkannan@ho10.eng.ua.edu (Balaji Kannan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: A Request/Question to Bapa Rao
Date: 22 Jan 1993 23:50:42 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu



>I completely agree with Raj.  I think it is outrageous (and contemptible)
>that someone wrote to complain to V's employer about his postings, and even
>more outrageous that the employer cared and obviously did something about
>it that caused V to declare to post some sort of a disclaimer.


     The sci rule seems to be "if you can't tackle 'em [anyone] or appeal 
     to their better sense [of the 4-letter freaks] gag 'em" in true desi
     spirit[least effort principle!] Wonder if the employer overstepped
     in V's case by getting a 'oath' of allegiance from him.

bk

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: anand@Cadence.COM (Anand Bemra)
Subject: Re: New Cabinet List Reveals Shameless Pandering to Minorities!
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:16:57 GMT

prem@prem.lbl.gov (xyz) writes:

>	Don't tell me this is A.R.Antulay !!!!
>	Did they make him a cabinet minister now ???

If Morales is to be believed, Antulay wasn't all that bad. He
refused to pander to the cement needs of Goenka, the owner of
Indian Express who hired a reporter to smear Antulay. This info
from a recent India Today magazine. 

India Today's latest copy is the worst kind of journalism I have
ever seen. Their rabid one sided attack on BJP with no intention
of getting BJPs point is hardly journalism.

anand@cadence.com
--
Screw PBS & NPR news. Tired of news "sanitized for your protection?". Try:
misc.activism.progressive, "Lies Of Our [NY]Times", "Z" magazine (Boston).
KPFA 94.1 FM (Bay Area), 90.7 (L.A.), 90.1 (Houston, TX), 89.3 (Washington, DC)
These are my opinions, not my employer's.
From: anshu@bass.bu.edu (Anshu Aggarwal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Citizenship
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:53:38 GMT
Reply-To: anshu@bass.bu.edu (Anshu Aggarwal)
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Organization: Boston University

Hello, my sister has an interview sometime in February for getting
American citizenship. I understand that there are some books available
which address the typical questions that are asked by the interviewers.
I would appreciate it very much if someone could email me the titles
of these books. Please email the responses to anshu@bu-pub.bu.edu

Thank you very much.

--
						   - Anshu Aggarwal
						     (anshu@bass.bu.edu)
"Morality is the herd-instinct in the individual."
				      	- Friedrich Nietzsche
From: sagar@ECE.Concordia.CA (Sagar Naik)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: .... 60.min/dowry....
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:09:19 GMT
Organization: Concordia University - Montreal, Canada

In article <1k7u9pINNglr@aludra.usc.edu> fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:
>Varsha Brahmbhatt writes:
>>I think the way to start solving this problem would be to STOP giving
>	No, this just does'nt work. You stop giving, the girl remains a
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	spinster. The first step has to come from the guys who shd have the
        ^^^^^^^^^

        Why, boss? Who asks her to remain a spinster? Is there no guy
        who wants to marry without dowry?

>	will to stand up for such a principle. Unfortunately, most are
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	Why, boss? Why should the "crown of principle" fall on the
         heads of the guys only? Why women can't take this step?
        Don't pamper them anymore, yaar! :-)
 
Sagar


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: ssankara@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sornam Sankara)
Subject: Re: A fervent appeal!!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:54:42 GMT




In article <1k7gqvINN14b@shelley.u.washington.edu> ngrjn@carson.u.washington.ed
u (V. Nagarajan) writes:
>
>    Here's the address for sending donations to the riot-victims:
>
>        The Times of India relief Fund,
>        The Times of India Building,
>        Dadabhai Naoroji Road,
>        Bombay-400005


As Sanjeev Mahajan mentioned in SCI, great damage has been done by the Shiv 
Sena/RSS/BJP TERRORISTS to the Muslims living in slums and lower class
colonies.  The loss is equivalent to the commuanl riots during th partition of 
India.  The above mowny is spent by a neutral organisation with a serious 
involvement from Ms.Sabhana Asmi and hence one can trust that the money will be
spent in for the real rehabitilation.

Please send your contributions. Even if it is one dollar, that is going to be 
Rs.30.

S. Sankarapandi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: an5584@anon.penet.fi (Salman Rushdie)
Subject: ****REPUBLIC DAY**********
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.indian
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:03:18 GMT


> 
> Oh my dear Indiano:
> 
> A great service from finland has helped me to hide my where about.
> 
> You are my people and I am yours. I am Rushdie and Satan is my nick name.
> 
> Well, This bloody country needs to be taught a lesson. All mullahs and
> 
> the govt. need to be taught a lesson. 
> 
> I dislike your consitution hence i ran away from india although you
> 
> bloody indians still ban my book. What a shame on you stupids.
> 
> Now few mullahs are trying to diobey your (not mine) republic day.
> 
> Ask them to create a new country in india and create a new constitution 
> 
> which satisfy them so they do not give call to boycott 26th Jan. and 
> 
> ofcourse when they will not be there you will lift ban from my book.
> 
> I going to publish another book called Satanic Verses Part II.
> 
> This book will cary sexual relationship between Benazir and Rajiv. 
> 
> Homosexuallity between Ram and Mohommad. And lot of 'mirch-masall'.
> 
> I hope this book will not be banned in the free world and India too.
> 
> What a good fun all of you would have.
> 
> Enjoy the stuff.
> 
> Love and Peace-
> 
> Rushdie.
> 
> 

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