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From: rkn3u@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (R. Keith Norwood)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Information on FAQ
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:09:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia


Where can I find the FAQ for this newsgroup?  Is it posted here on a regular
basis or perhaps archived somewhere?

Please respond via email.


Keith
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: mccurdy@bestsd.sdsu.edu (McCurdy M.)
Subject: Re: Pesky Mockingbird bugs Cat
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: San Diego State University - Dept. of Redundancy Dept.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:01:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.224817.12432@leland.Stanford.EDU>, jay@cmn6.Stanford.EDU (Jay Kadis)    writes...
>Recently a mockingbird has taken to harassing Dexter, my (retired) tomcat  
>of 15 years +.  He doesn't seem overly concerned, but the bird has  
>actually succeeded in pecking his butt a few times.  A few years ago, he  
>would have died on his first attempt, but Dex is getting a bit soft in his  
>old age.  Anyone know how to get the bird off his back?  (My current  
>thought-of-last-resort is to trap the bird in some netting and transport  
>him (her?) across the bay to a new home, but this would be real work!  I  
>guess there's the possibility of a nest and young, so the transportation  
>idea might be problematic.)

There probably is a good chance that the bird is nesting and is protecting 
it's area. They are pretty territorial anyway.

I don't know, I'm a big fan of mockingbirds so I guess that I would suggest 
that your cat avoid confrontations by picking spots to hang out where he 
won't be harassed. :) To me, it's kind of nice that the bird doesn't have to 
pay with it's life, where in the past, your cat would have had the upper 
hand. That seems kind of balanced.

Mike



Mike McCurdy			Disclaimer:
VAX Systems Management		     
San Diego State University		"Everything I say may be wrong."
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From: axvlj@acad2.alaska.edu (Valerie Johnston)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Spaying Siamese cat
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:42:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: acad2.1992Jul22.164224.1
Organization: University of Alaska Anchorage

In article <14kkf3INNer9@agate.berkeley.edu>, mprats@ocf.berkeley.edu (Mario Prats) writes:
> I have a question: my Siamese cat Monti is 6 months old now. When
> I took her to the vet several months ago, the vet told me that
> Siamese mature at a later age than other cats, and that I
> should wait to have her spayed until she is 8 months old -- has anybody
> heard about this?
> I live in an apartment building and I am afraid of her going
> into heat within the next two months.  Her meows are already
> pretty potent as it is, and I don't want to get into trouble with the
> neighbors once her meows get super loud -- I've heard that Siamese
> in heat can meow so loud they can be heard from blocks away...

I'm not sure how quickly Siamese mature, but with the slower Maine Coons,
it's recommended to spay/neuter around 8 months.  I believe anything after
about 6 months is appropriate.  

Valerie
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From: mprats@ocf.berkeley.edu (Mario Prats)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Spaying Siamese cat
Date: 22 Jul 1992 21:37:39 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: earthquake.berkeley.edu

I have a question: my Siamese cat Monti is 6 months old now. When
I took her to the vet several months ago, the vet told me that
Siamese mature at a later age than other cats, and that I
should wait to have her spayed until she is 8 months old -- has anybody
heard about this?
I live in an apartment building and I am afraid of her going
into heat within the next two months.  Her meows are already
pretty potent as it is, and I don't want to get into trouble with the
neighbors once her meows get super loud -- I've heard that Siamese
in heat can meow so loud they can be heard from blocks away...
From: woodley@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Judy Woodley)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Thyroidectomy
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:25:47 GMT
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server

My cat tends to drop a lot of weight when the weather gets warm.  My vet
misdiagnosed this as a thyroid problem and suggested that I send her to the
Santa Cruz to a special clinic for this radio-isotope therapy.  He estimated
that she would be there at least two weeks.  He said we would not be able to
visit her because she was radioactive.

My husband and I discussed this at length, and as much as I love her, I felt
(and still feel) that it would be too cruel for her to spend that much time
in a cage away from home and from us.  I feel this way because of her temper-
ment:  she is an outdoor cat.  She would DIE rather than go to the bathroom
inside (she darn-near proved this once).  When she has to stay overnight at
the vet's, she refuses to eat and won't go to the bathroom.  When she gets home
she heads straight for the garden and then makes a beeline to the food and
water.  

I called the clinic in Santa Cruz and one of the doctors was kind enough to 
talk to me.  She suggested that it did not sound like the cat had a thyroid
problem at all.  It turns out that's just the way the kitty is--she gets thin
in summer.  I'm looking for a new vet!

Anyway, it sounds like your cat has had a more definitive diagnosis, although
it would never hurt to get a second diagnosis.  Not only because of the cost,
but because of the severity of the treatment--Kitty won't feel good for a
while (says a co-worker who had this treatment on his own thyroid).  Your
best course is to find out as much as possible about the treatment and what
your cat can expect AFTER the treatment (will it have to continue to take
medicine, etc.).  Find out the name of the surgery in NY and call them! 
You'll need to make an informed decision. 

It is a very difficult decision between putting your beloved pet through such
treatment and putting it to sleep.  The only consolation is that you BOTH
know that whatever decision you reach is based on the love and respect you 
have for your pet.  

*************************************************************************
Judy Woodley -- These are my opinions; my employer has no opinion on this
subject.
*************************************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: rivkin@watson.bms.com (Teresa Rivkin)
Subject: Re: I hope no one else has done this!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Bristol Myers Squibb Pharmaceutical Research Institute
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:51:00 GMT

Our boy cat, Arpeggio, also loves to hang out inside bags.  He goes inside the 
bag and moves around and his sister jumps all over him.  This keeps both of 
them amused for quite awhile.  However, we only allow him to play in big PAPER 
bags without handles specifically because of what the first article posted 
talked about.  We sure wouldn't want to come home someday to find a strangled, 
asphyxiated kitty!

Terri Rivkin
Bristol-Myers Squibb
Rivkin@bms.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: enielsen@cayley.waterloo.edu (Erica Nielsen)
Subject: Re: Help with Breakfast
Keywords: little beggars...
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:57:53 GMT

In article <19506@optima.cs.arizona.edu> margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman) writes:
>Do you ever talk to your pets over the phone?  My neice had me saying
>"hello Mia, meow meow" over the phone today.  Mia is the first pet
>that I've done this to that has responded.  She's a fun cat!

  Ever since I went away to university, the only way I get to talk to my
  cat is over the phone.  My parents will hold her up to the phone and she
  meows and purrs at the sound of my voice.  She always looks bewildered
  though as to how she can hear Mommy but can't find her anywhere.  My
  parents tell me that after we're off the phone, she wanders around until
  she get to my room, then curls up on my pillow that's on my bed.  I guess
  she misses me.  :-)  I know I miss her.

  Aren't cats adorable?

  Erica!!!!!!!!!!!!
  ...happily owned by Kitty for the last 14 years...  :-)


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: smbelcas@med.umich.edu (Sarah Marie Belcastro)
Subject: Re: I want a cat...
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 19:21:00 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan, Mathematics Department, Ann Arbor
Originator: smbelcas@jameson.math.lsa.umich.edu


maybe i'd better clarify some things....

-- i want an adult cat because i don't have the patience to deal with a kitten.
	i don't like human children either.

-- i will go to the humane society if i don't find a cat another way, but
	if i go there, i have to pay money; i don't have much extra money 
	because i'm a grad student. (telling them my preferences is a 
	terrific idea!)

-- i like grey/black cats for aesthetic reasons, rather than because i think
	it has anything to do with personality.  i want the perfect cat
	for me, see... otherwise, i could just live with my housemate's
	cat.  (we are having 2 cats at my mother's suggestion.  she pointed
	out that if i liked grey and she liked orange, we should just
	have two....)

and thanks to the people who have suggested that i get a clawed cat because
Miriam's cat (Snafu?) has them.

						--sarah marie.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: adwright@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Re: Kitty Rituals
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:24:33 GMT

In <1992Jul28.143151.16455@doc.ic.ac.uk> crb@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ruth) writes:

>In article C0043@vmcms.csuohio.edu writes:
> 
>Mom always brings the girls three or four boxes of Pounce when she 
>visits (about 3 times amonth -- anyone need any Pounce, 
>my supply is near warehouse level!)

>> Beth  Cunningham                   Cleveland State University


>Yes, yes, yes - where can I get this stuff??!!! Does anyone know if 
>you can get it mail order (from USA to England)?  How would I go about
>it - I've tried everywhere here and can't find anything remotely like
>it!!!!  All help much appreciated (by me and the three monsters at home).

>Roo

BTW, how is the cat food in the UK? WHen I lived in South Africa, there were
only Epol and Catmore. The stuff was boring looking pellets and the cats
hated it. A friend sent Chefs Blend by surface mail and the cats could smell
it through the box! They were ecstatic to get some decent American cat food for
a change! 

This is not a put down of RSA, generally I liked it.

Cheers!
Allen
From: maxfield@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joan C. Maxfield)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: cat toys ideas
Date: 22 Jul 92 02:21:36 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Jul21.232913.20114@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au> ccd@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Carol C Denehy) writes:

>Penny is very good about fetching and bringing it back, often dropping
>her foil ball into my hand. However, if I don't throw it far enough,
>preferably bouncing off several things in the process, she won't
>bring it back. She gives me a look that says, "Is that the best you
>can do?"
>
	Amos does this too!  He gets that "well, if YOU'RE not going
to play the right way neither am I!"  This afternoon he brough tDan
one of the makeup sponges to throw.  Dan grabbed one, but it wasn't
the one that Amos had brought over.  When Dan threw it Amos looke dat
him like "That's not the right one you IDIOT!"  Then looked at me as
if to say "and YOU let him LIVE here!!".  Dan finally did throw the
right one.  Sure, my cat is trained.

Update: All 3 furfaces got a bath yesterday and I'm not bleeding!  I'm
also not scratching!

Joan


-- 
J. C. Maxfield				maxfield@athena.cs.uga.edu
DISCLAIMER:  I don't speak for the University, but they often speak for me!
From: adwright@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Garbage Kitty
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:49:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

In <l6ra9pINNnkg@male.EBay.Sun.COM> lobby3@eb3lobby.EBay.Sun.COM (Louis Brown lobby) writes:

>Does anyone know a way to prevent a destructive kitty from 
>getting into the garbages throughout the house? I've hidden the
>bathroom garbage under the sink but there are several garbages 
>in the house.  I've tried hissing, squirting him, clapping my hands...
>HELP!

A previous post suggested using a balloon as a strong negative reinforcement.
perhaps keeping one at the top of the garbage  would work.
From: clt@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (Christy L. Thierstein)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Favorite places for catnapping...
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:26:09 GMT
Organization: Chevron Oil Field Research, La Habra, CA.

>Lemme know where your cat sleeps! :)
>
>
Our Sam enjoys sleeping behind our drapes on the floor.  We usually see his
paws dangling beyond the hem of the drapes.  He chooses different windows - 
sometimes it is the dining room, sometimes the living room, and sometimes 
the family room.

He is a joy.  He is the only cat we've had that "talks" with us.  When we 
talk to him, he *meows* his answers!  So sweet.
-- 
 Christy Thierstein
 clt@chevron.com 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jay@cmn8.Stanford.EDU (Jay Kadis)
Subject: Update on bird attacks
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 16:45:27 GMT

Well, Dexter seems to have had the last word in his battle with the pesky  
Mockingbird...yesterday I found two piles of feathers in the back yard.   
They included several primary flight feathers which looked suspiciously  
like Mockingbird...and I haven't heard the constant chatter for several  
days now.  I think the bird escaped, but just barely.  And Dexter seems  
unusually proud of himself lately. I guess there's some life left in him  
after all.

Jay Kadis
jay@ccrma.stanford.edu
From: ltao@netcom.com (Lilly Tao)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: cat toys ideas
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:59:27 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online

In article <sallyg.60@oregon.uoregon.edu> sallyg@oregon.uoregon.edu (George, Sally) writes:
>In article <h4cm8pc.ltao@netcom.com> ltao@netcom.com (Lilly Tao) writes:
>
>>Cat Aerobics is heartily recommended by both of us.  We got ours
>>at the local humane society shop.  I'm not sure if it's distributed
>>nationwide (I know the company is from here in California).
>
>What is this "CatAerobics?
>
>Sal

A previous poster (sorry I've haven't kept the reference), referred to
this wonderful toy.

Basically it's a "kitty teaser".  It's about one-eighth of one of those
Koosh balls (the rubber string balls) on the end of a long piece of
wire with a wooden handle.  It comes with a cute little booklet on games
you can play with your cat.  You're supposed to swoosh the thing around
(holding the handle, of course :) and have your kitty chase it about.
My cat also likes to jump up at it when I hold it high up on the wall.
She makes amazing leaps!  5-6 feet when she's feels like doing it.
Another favorite is "hide and go seek" where I hide the end of the 
CatAerobics under some magazines or behind a table leg.  Then I can
watch her set herself down, get all wound up (she wiggles her butt!),
and the all of a sudden POUNCE on the poor defenseless toy.  It's great
fun, but like I mentioned, Oreo won't play with it unless I'm holding
it, hence my original request for toys she can use on her own.

I can pull out the name of the company for you.  It's in Redwood City
California.

Lilly Tao
ltao@netcom.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: gck@hector.uucp (24641-kemmerling)
Subject: Re: My condolences
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 18:34:22 GMT


My condolences too.

I had to have my 16 year old 'Skippy' put to sleep last fall and I   
don't care what anyone says - it's devastating to lose a pet friend!
I have another cat (Boo) that I love dearly, but Skippy was one
of a kind.  Half Burmese, half siamese with the best personality.   
He had a purr that kept you awake at night and I swear I could have
tied him in a knot and hung him by his tail and he would've purred
his head off.  I still miss him.


Gayle
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: angela allen <angie@moose.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: What is she thinking? (was Re: What does he DO in there???
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 11:24:07 -0500

I had a friend whose cat would sit for hours on the pillow on the back
of the rocking chair. Not a comfortable-looking spot, not in the sun
... and not even in the way! The cat would just sit there and do
nothing every day --- not even look around.

My friend used to joke that one day the cat will perk up and shout,
"Eureka! Einstein was all wrong!" and then return to his thinking
pose and never speak again.

I suppose I could drive my (computer science grad student) hubby nuts
by saying that one of our cats did that, only he shouted "It is true!
P does equal NP!"

--angie			angie@cs.indiana.edu
& John (hubby)
& Cerebus (buddy)
& Jaka (sweetie)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Newell)
Subject: Re: Sleeping with Cats
Organization: Denver, Colorado
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:39:21 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.194011.18877@ncar.ucar.edu> vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer) writes:
>In article <1992Jul30.163815.13075@u.washington.edu> lcornell@milton.u.washington.edu (Linda Cornell) writes:
>>>: >How many of you sleep with your cats?
>>I couldn't sleep without them - I go through withdrawl on vacations!
>
>I rarely stay over at others' houses.  I say it's because I like to go
>home and sleep in my own bed, but it's really because I don't sleep
>well unless Abigail and Zarabeth are somewhere near by.
>
>Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
>Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu

I am the same exact way.  I will tell people that I just like
to sleep in my own bed and would just rather go home, but the
truth of the matter is that I miss my cats, and want to go home
to make sure that they are ok.

Any advise as a solution to this problem as I am going to Hawaii
for 10 days in a week or so.  This is the longest separation I
will have ever had from my cats.  I don't know if I can make it!  :-)


-- 
 Cindy Newell - Usual disclaimers apply
 Martin Marietta Astronautics Group  (303)977-9804
 snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com  (if that doesn't work try)
 cnewell@azum.den.mmc.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: whopkins@bnr.ca (Wendy Hopkins)
Subject:  Re: Spaying Siamese cat
Reply-To: whopkins@bnr.ca (Wendy Hopkins)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 14:34:50 GMT

Go ahead and spay your female Siamese if she is 6 months old.
My mother and I, between us, have had 3 female Siamese spayed at
around 6 months in age.  One of hers had actually gone into heat
and "tortured" my parents with the continuous yowling.  

In my case, as I had one male and one female, it was highly recommended
that I have her spayed before she went into heat, so I believe she was
done before she was 6 months old.  I, therefore, have serious doubts 
about your vet's recommendations.

All three cats are around 4 years and are in excellent health.

Hope this helps.

*Sorry for the repost. I'm new at this and I wanted to get the title
  in *
From: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Fur Mouse, was Re: What IS it with Q-tips?
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:24:11 GMT
Organization: Denver, Colorado

In article <1992Jul23.193118.1394@ncsu.edu> echyatt@eos.ncsu.edu (EDWARD CRAIG HYATT) writes:

>For those of us who missed the previous
>post, what is the brand name of the fur
>mouse you are describing.  It sounds great.
>Is it from a grocery store or a pet store?
>I want one!!
>
>-Craig

Craig,

As far as I know, they are just called "Real
Fur Mice" and if you cat(s) are anything like
mine, you'll definitely need more than one.  At
this point in time, I have a total of about 
12 of the little suckers, but they are only
allowed 2 at a time.  I think that they might
be breeding under my refirgerator though.  :-)

Check any pet store, I have only seen them
at a few places in Colorado, mostly the little
privately owned stores, not the huge warehouse
type of stores (ie Pet Smart, Pet Foods Plus, etc).

Cindy





-- 
 Cindy Newell - Usual disclaimers apply
 Martin Marietta Astronautics Group  (303)977-9804
 snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com  (if that doesn't work try)
 cnewell@azum.den.mmc.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: gck@hector.uucp (24641-kemmerling)
Subject: Re: What does he DO in there???
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 19:02:25 GMT

> and since I've not yet managed to catch him in the act, I'm not sure what
> he is acutally climbing on.  I only seem to get there when he's in mid thud.
> 
> What IS he doing? What IS he after? And WHERE is he jumping from - this
> happens EVERY night now - and I still can't work it out!!!!!
> 
> Any suggestions????????
> 
> Roo

Mine does that too, but I find catlip marks in the butter!!

  My other cat though used to go up on top of the fridge and jump
down when I came in the room.
Gayle
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: K_LEPA@unhh.unh.edu (Kristen   Lepa)
Subject: Re: what do you think?
Organization: University of New Hampshire
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 04:52:30 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.12

In <mk8ooB1w164w@ailanth.UUCP> ailsa%ailanth.uucp@wang.com writes:

> sbiles@nmsu.edu (Susannah E Biles) writes:
> 
> > 
> > Okay..second of all:
> > You know that cute little thing that kitty's do with their paws -n-
> > claws when they are content? Well, I was just curoius as to what 
> > everyone else called it. I have refered to it (since a little girl)
> > as "makin' muffin's", and I have heard it called, "kneading bread"
> > and "that-happy-cat-thing". Any others?
> > 
> my favorite terrm for that is "starfish paws," which may sarton uses in 
> _the fur person_.  highly recommended reading, btw...
> 
>                                         -ailsa
> 
> p.s. i always just called it "kneading," but i like 'starfish paws' much 
> better..
> 
>                 ailsa%ailanth.uucp@wang.com
>  

I've always called it "making the bed" because my cats do it when they are
trying to make in indentation in puffy blankets to sleep in.

	-Kristen
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: pandit@ssd.intel.com (Milind Pandit,,,)
Subject: Re: Help! Need advice on adopting a cat
Reply-To: pandit@ssd.intel.com
Organization: SSD Intel Corp.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:25:53 GMT

In article 17951@cci632.cci.com, agc@cci632.cci.com (Anupama Chathampally - co-op) writes:
>
>I love cats and want to adopt one from the humane society.  I am
>interested in getting an older cat.  My main concern is for the lonliness
>of the cat.  I live in an apt and the cat would be alone all day while I am
>at work.  I don't have room for two cats in the apt.  I thought an older cat
>could maybe adjust better to being alone all day but I'm not sure.  Should I
>just forget it?  I need advice!!!! Thanks.
>       
>
>                                          Anu ( cat-deprived )

Don't just forget it.  I, too, live alone in an apartment, and am gone most of the day.
I'm not allowed to have more than one pet.  I've had two cats at different times, and 
neither has had any real problems staying home alone.  I don't think age makes much 
difference, either.  I brought Manu (mostly shorthair Siamese) home at 3 months, and 
Penny (mostly mediumhair Persian) at 1 year.  You do have to play with your cat at 
least once a day, otherwise it will misbehave just to get attention.  I also make it a point to comb Penny as soon as I get home.  She loves the five minutes of undivided 
attention and hasn't had a hairball since I got her.   
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|  pandit@iwarp.intel.com                     |-------------------------------|
|  Operating Systems Engineer, iWarp Program  |   Who knows what evil lurks   |
|  Intel Corp., Beaverton, OR                 |     in the hearts of men?     |