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From: raindrop@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nathaniel Michael Pearson)
Subject: Three in the morning
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 03:55:02 GMT

Since it will have already happened, this will be too late for most folks 
(unless all of you already know about it, in which case I'll feel silly).  
Apparently, George will (I use the future tense loosely) be on tv at 3 a.m.
here in Detroit, on ABC's "In Concert."  The bill includes The Allman Bros. and
Dan Fogelberg; are these recent concerts?  I may not find out, being sleepy
already at 11:45...Maybe it'll show at midnight on the coast.

				*yawn*...

				Nat Pearson
				raindrop@leland.stanford.edu
From: David.Thomas@brunel.ac.uk (David Thomas)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: John and Yoko in Stones Rock Circus
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:15:33 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK

In article <1992Sep8.111746.9717@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> CS19242546G@LUST2.LATROBE.EDU.AU (JUNACKO, STEVEN) writes:
>Hi-
>
>Could anybody tell me about the Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus (1968).
>It had guest appearances by John,  Yoko,  Clapton .. and some others (no sure).
>Has anybody seen it?
>

Don't have the details to hand I'm afraid, But there is a book out
with lots of still photos from the Circus. Large format.

Published by Faber and Faber, 1991 or 1992 not sure. about 15 quid.

David Thomas
Brunel University
Xref: sparky rec.music.beatles:4480 rec.music.misc:23363
From: jhirschf@garnet.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles,rec.music.misc
Subject: I need to borrow cassette tapes
Date: 14 Sep 1992 22:20:50 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: ucb
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

I need to borrow(/rent for a suitable fee?) cassette tape(s) with
the following songs:

"Happy Birthday" by Beatles
"Happy Birthday To Me" by Black Crows

(I may have gotten the titles a bit wrong).  I need to borrow them for one night this week.  Can anyone help me out?  

Thanks very much!!
Jessica Hirschfelder 
642-8425 or 642-2130
jhirschf@garnet.berkeley.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Dave)
Subject: Re: Cloud 9 questions
Keywords: Harrison
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 03:44:31 GMT

Sorry I can only answer one and speculate on another ...

In article <1992Sep11.021319.23618@cs.rose-hulman.edu> williasr@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Steven R. Williams) writes:
>I just listened to the Cloud 9 CD again...and I have a few questions  
>concerning its contents.
>
>1. At the end of When We Was Fab, there is a voice that can be heard  
>....Any ideas what is being said or who is speaking? It sounds kind of  
>foreign to me.
dunno ...

>2. Is there any special meaning to "Like this pullover you sent to me"?
Maybe referring to the "Rolling Stones" sweater on the doll on the cover
of _Sgt. Pepper_?  Just a guess ...

>3. Where does the phrase "It's all over now baby blue" come from...I know  
>I've read it somewhere else.... What does it mean?"
"It's All Over Now, Baby Blue" is a Bob Dylan song, from 1965 (I believe).

>4. Does anyone know any special meaning(s) to the lyrics in 'Wreck of the  
>Hesperus", I realize lots of it just sounds nice but there are bits that  
>sound sort of autobiographical...Who's Big Bill Brunsey(or whoever)  
>anyhow???
lost on this one, too ...

>5. What singles were release from the album and what were there b-sides?  
>That is besides Got My Mind Set on You b/w Lay His Head and When We Was  
>Fab b/w Zig Zag....seems like there's an extende version of This Is  
>Love...anyone heard this???
nope ...

>6. Did Got My Mind Set On You top the charts anywhere besides the U.S.???
didn't realize this actually MADE it to #1 here ...

>Any answers appreciated.....please be sure to read others replies before  
>posting your own...
oops ... didn't do this ... :}

-- 
( David Prokopy - prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu                                 )
( "Well now, what can a poor boy do, 'cept to sing for a rock-n-roll band?" )
(  -The Rolling Stones, "Street Fighting Man"                               )
From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Abbey Road Cover
Date: 5 Sep 92 00:52:02 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu (saki) writes:

>Someone posted something close to the correct answer a week or so
>ago. I think this is actually "NW8", the postal code (for want of
>a better word) for that section of Abbey Road. At least my copy of
>"London A to Z" shows this designation for that section of Abbey
>Road (it's a *long* road) where the studios are actually located.
>--

Yes, it is NW8.  The sign at the corner of Grove's End Road
and Abbey Road, which is a standard red/black-on-white London
street sign, also says "NW8".   This is the corner where the
zebra crosswalk is located.  This sign is usually not there,
as it is stolen frequently.  There is no other sign at that
intersection that says "Abbey Road", so I would imagine that
tourists walk by it without knowing it.

I do not know if the tile sign on the album cover exists anymore.
If it does, it is not near the crosswalk.


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From: jwlr@dali.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: FIFTH BEATLE?
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:56:19 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987) writes:

>CHRISTOPHER M GRAWBURG (cmgrawbu@eos.ncsu.edu) wrote:
>: 
>: >Which of these fifth Beatles do you think was the most influential on the
>: >Beatles' success? (feel free to add your own)
>: You put Yoko in that group?!?!?!?! Gimme a break, unless you are talking
>: about who was most influential in the breakup of the Beatles or who was the
>: most influential in making that stupid voice in Bungalo Bill.

>Oh, and I believe the stupid voice in Bungalo Bill was Linda, not Yoko.
I'm not sure about Linda Eastman, but I am fairly certain that "not when
he looked so fierce" was Yoko.

(and if I'm wrong, I'll hear about it....)

			James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
From: jwlr@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Cloud 9 questions
Keywords: Harrison
Date: 11 Sep 92 03:08:59 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

williasr@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Steven R. Williams) writes:

>I just listened to the Cloud 9 CD again...and I have a few questions  
>concerning its contents.

>1. At the end of When We Was Fab, there is a voice that can be heard  
>....Any ideas what is being said or who is speaking? It sounds kind of  
>foreign to me.

It sounds like a soundbyte I remember hearing somewhere on the Magical
Mystery Tour lp... or was it Sgt. Pepper...
Now, I remember! It sounds like the end of Within You/Without You!

>3. Where does the phrase "It's all over now baby blue" come from...I know  
>I've read it somewhere else.... What does it mean?"

It's from Bob Dylan. It means "It's all over now".

>4. Does anyone know any special meaning(s) to the lyrics in 'Wreck of the  
>Hesperus", I realize lots of it just sounds nice but there are bits that  
>sound sort of autobiographical...Who's Big Bill Brunsey(or whoever)  
>anyhow???

Big Bill Broonzy was a great Blues singer who died a couple of
years back.  I can't think of any of his songs right now, but either
someone else will, or I'll get back to you...

>Any answers appreciated.....please be sure to read others replies before  
>posting your own...

Those are the only answers I have right now. And as far as I can tell,
I'm the first one to answer.

>Also I was thinking about running a poll and asking for favorite Beatles  
>and Solo songs and LP's and other things ... please e-mail me if you think  
>this is a good or dangerous idea. I would run it like the Most Annoying  
>Dylan poll (see Rec.Music.Dylan : Results....)...keeping all but the  
>questions and final results in my mail files so as not to clog this  
>newsgroup. Please e-mail me any ideas. Is this a bad idea? 

Jeez, I don't know ....

				James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: grumpy@jpradley.jpr.com (Jeff Markel)
Subject: Re: "All This and World War II"?
Reply-To: grumpy@jpradley.UUCP (Jeff Markel)
Organization: Unix in NYC
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 12:07:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.155748.6659@menudo.uh.edu> edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.132748.12123@udel.edu> galuska@oz.asel.udel.edu (Scott Galuska) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug30.233555.968@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jwlr@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) writes:
>>
>>>"All This and World War II" was the soundtrack to a movie of the same
>>>name.  Someone (I don't recall who) had the brilliant idea of taking
>>>footage from WWII and putting it to covers of Beatle tunes.
>>
>
>Just be glad the film has not made it's way to video.  The best way to
>describe it is ... bizarre.  The footage used is too cheezy for WWII
>buffs, and offensive to many Beatlefans.  The soundtrack was re-released
>later as "The Stars sing the Songs of Lennon & McCartney" or somesuch.
>
>>>I think this film got much less exposure than "Sgt. Pepper" (produced
>>>by Robert Stigwood, who had just done "Saturday Night Fever", the biggest
>>>selling soundtrack album of all time) and the double LP soundtrack was
>>>rereleased under another name. 
>>
>
>The Sgt. Pepper soundtrack, while not offensive, is definitely boring.
>There are a few high points, (Earth, Wind, and Fire's "Got To Get You Into
>My Life" first appeared here) but far too much chaff among the wheat. (George
>Burns doing a Beatles tune -- 'nuff said).  For a much better collection of
>Beatle covers, search out the "Sgt. Pepper Knew My Father" set, or the really
>nice "Boston Does the Beatles" by "hungry" relative unknowns from the Boston
>Area.  
>
>This thread has got me thinking though.  Nowadays, collections of different
>artists covering the material of one artist are relatively commonplace. (ie:
>"Deadicated", "Two Rooms", "Rutles Highway Revisited ;-)").  However, the 
>first such collection I can remember is the aforementioned "All This..."
>set.  (and actually, the second such collection I can remember is John's
>"Every Man has a Woman Who Loves Him" tribute to Yoko).  Can anyone contradict
>this impression, or am I indeed correct that this was another way the boys were
>(well, indirectly) innovators in the rock-era.
>
><ESC>
>
>
>
>
>
>-- 
>..You either kiss the future or the past goodbye...
>                          -- Ringo Starr (written by O'Deherty / Velez)
>
>                                

I suppose this is arguable, but an early example this kind of album is the
soundtrack from 'Tommy'.

                        Jeff Markel

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Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Date: Sat,  5 Sep 1992 23:04:00 -0400 
From: "Jason M. Roth" <jr4q+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: George song?

Does anyone know the title of the song that is played over the closing
credits to "Time Bandits?" Been driving me crazy for at least a year now.

JMR
HSK
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: s1082919@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (T Hankinson is GUMBY)
Subject: Re: FIFTH BEATLE?
Organization: Monash University College Gippsland, Churchill, 3842, Australia
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 02:59:48 GMT

In article <BuFM3I.84D@acsu.buffalo.edu> v053qpcj@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (MARK T. ZABALDO) writes:
>Which of these fifth Beatles do you think was the most influential on the
>Beatles' success? (feel free to add your own)
>
>Brian Epstein
>Billy Preston
>George Martin
>Yoko Ono
>Pete Best

   I think Stu Sutcliffe definately rates as a mention (atleast he can say he
   quit the band unlike Pete)
   Also can anyone  tell  me if the picture with Pete Best ( the Pete Best
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: mccombj@alleg.edu (Joseph McCombs)
Subject: Re: .
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 00:04:39 GMT

In article <65326@cup.portal.com> Jeff_R_Spangenberg@cup.portal.com writes  
(though the *'s are mine):
> F**k You
> Vote for Jesse Jackson in 1992... He'll give us a REAL reason to 
> HATE THE F**KING N**GERS!!!
> 
> 
> 
> F**K YOU ALL!!

What was the point of this post?  Freedom of speech granted (though I  
personally resent the sentiment), but why rec.music.beatles?

Just wondering,
Joe McCombs (mccombj@alleg.edu)

"Gooses!  Geeses!
 I want my goose to lay gold eggs for Easter!" -- Veruca Salt
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: edc@dna.bchs.uh.edu
Subject: Re: Beatlefest '92 in Los Angeles
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:55:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.043036.7483@math.ucla.edu> dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu  
(saki) writes:
> Although many of you may have already received your catalog (which
> is in stunning colour this time), it's worth mentioning that the
> Los Angeles Beatlefest will occur about a month earlier than
> usual this year (October 24 & 25), for reasons unspecified. 

Although the reasons are "unspecified", I think we can all make
a good guess.  The current scuttlebutt is that Macca himself
will be attending the West Coast premiere of "The Liverpool Oratorio"
in nearby Orange County that weekend.  Mark Lapidos is apparently
hoping Paulie might have a fit of nostalgia, and come join the 
festivities.  (Didn't the 1989 'fest coincide with Paul's LA 
concerts?)

<ESC>

--
..You either kiss the future or the past goodbye...
                          -- Ringo Starr (written by O'Deherty / Velez)
From: kr11615@yugoslavia (Kent Roessler)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Ringo on Jerry Lewis Telethon?
Date: 9 Sep 92 12:33:50 GMT
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.

Just heard that Ringo performed for the Jerry Lewis Telethon.
Does anyone know what he sang? How was the performance?

Thanks in advance!!!

Kent
From: stevedc@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Stephen Carter)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Abbey Road Cover - What does it mean?
Date: 9 Sep 92 07:28:37 GMT
Organization: University of Sussex

From article <harold.715966641@ccl.umist.ac.uk>, by harold@ccl.umist.ac.uk (Harold Somers):
> Now, (if you're still with me), because of the restrictions on possible
> sequences of characters, cars whose registrations happen to spell out a name
> (e.g. ELV1S) or message (e.g. H15 CAR) become very valuable, and are

Harold's posting was superb.  

Strange but true, the ELV1S plate was bought by the former boss of a
colleuge of mine (and Andy Clews)!  So, that one is now in Brighton.

I believe I heard Paul say once that LMW 281F was kept on his farm..


Stephen Carter, Systems & Operations Manager, Computing Services
The University of Sussex, Falmer, Brighton BN1 9QJ, UK
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From: jnelson@woodowl.UUCP (James Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Beatles Acetates
Keywords: Beatles Acetates
Date: 3 Sep 92 02:02:58 GMT
Organization: Woodowl, Livermore CA


     I was scouting around at one of my local used record shops
and found a Beatles Acetates CD.  It contains Bad To Me, One and
One is Two, Goodbye, Twelve-Bar Original and others.  I was 
looking through Lewisohn's Recording Sessions book to try and
find out about the origins of these recordings.  Lewisohn dosen't
say anything about One and One is Two.  I am also curious about
Goodbye, is that really Paul Singing on that ?  If anyone else
has a copy of this CD and knows about these songs, please let me
know.
                  
                                    J. Nelson

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From: v201lrxa@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (BILL S. PRESTON, ESQ.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: lohn's oscar
Date: 16 Sep 92 02:50:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

i just read on clari.news.music that john's oscar from LIB is 
going to the auction block. the powers that be say it could go 
for $100,000 US...................
From: dschleef@sage.cc.purdue.edu (David Schleef)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Hard Days Night on CD-ROM!
Date: 14 Sep 92 04:57:30 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

Does anyone have information about the beatles movies that are on
laser-disc?

Dave.
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987)
Subject: Re: FIFTH BEATLE?
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 06:26:45 GMT

MARK T. ZABALDO (v053qpcj@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu) wrote:
: Which of these fifth Beatles do you think was the most influential on the
: Beatles' success? (feel free to add your own)
: 
: Brian Epstein
: Billy Preston
: George Martin
: Yoko Ono
: Pete Best                

Bernard Webb  ;)

--

Dave Hinz  -  Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.  Obviously.
hinzd@picard.med.ge.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: rags@triples.math.mcgill.ca (Robert A. G. Seely)
Subject: Official release of 1965 material?
Organization: Dept Of Mathematics and Statistics
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 04:44:37 GMT

Tonight the (TV) news had a brief note about an upcoming release (not
a boot) of mid 60's material - anyone have real details on this?

Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: olemo@dhhalden.no (OLE-MAGNUS OLSEN)
Subject: Re: New Beatles recordings??
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:13:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.014139.28808@unlinfo.unl.edu> cpeters@cse.unl.edu (Corey Peters) writes:
>From: cpeters@cse.unl.edu (Corey Peters)
>Subject: New Beatles recordings??
>Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 01:41:39 GMT
>Just a quick little question...I heard on the radio today as I was driving in to
>work that there was going to be a new release of Beatles material around
>Christmas time.  The disc jockey (Sorry I don't remember the station) said 
>something about reading an article in the Times (I think The New York Times, but
>am not sure) that some never before found recordings of the Beatles were found
>in a vault and should be released by Christmas time.  Anyone else heard this? 
>Any truth to this?  Being a little more knowledgeable on the Beatles than this
>disc jockey, I have a feeling that even if this were true, they would never be 
>out by Christmas due all the legalities of such a release, but I could be wrong.
>
>Anyone else out there have any ideas or heard anything about it??
>
>Corey
>
I don't think they are "never before found" recordings (we all know that 
there's lots of Beatles material that hasn't been released), but anyway... 
What I've heard and read is that Paul, George and Ringo have okayed the 
release.

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From: edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen)
Subject: Re: Video: I've Got My Mind Set On You (was:  Cloud 9 questions)
Organization: Little to none, or maybe not......
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 17:13:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.233540.24533@pellns.alleg.edu> mccombj@alleg.edu (Joseph McCombs) writes:
>In article <1992Sep12.182236.16873@cs.rose-hulman.edu>  
>williasr@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Steven R. Williams) writes:
>> 
>> In article <1992Sep12.172848.1474@menudo.uh.edu>  
>edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu  
>> (edward s. chen) writes:
>> So, could someone give a description of the Got My Mind Set On You  
>> 'arcade' video and the 'This is Love' video, since I'll likely never get  
>> the chance to see them myself???
>
>I am also interested in hearing about the 'This Is Love' video, which I've  
>never seen.  The GMMSOY 'arcade' video, I saw once or twice, but remember  
>very few details.  I did find it charming, however.  
>

For the record, there were actually two versions of the standard "chair"
GMMSOY video.  The first featured a very sloppy edit between when the
stand-in does the back-flip, and when the scene cuts back to the real
George.  That edit was made much cleaner in the second release.

The arcade video is very cute.  Basically, a couple are flirting in a video
arcade.  A girl is watching George and company on a hand cranked "video"
machine, while a boy is attempting to catch a ballerina toy for the girl from
a "claw" game.  The action continues, with appropriate glances with the words.
Towards the end of the film, the boy catches the ballerina, but on it's way
to the "out" slot, it falls into the "video" machine, and we see a ballerina
dancing around while George continues to play.  The boy hits the machine 
(causing the set to start to collapse around George), the toy ballerina falls 
out, and the happy couple get together as the video ends.

The "This is Love" video is beautiful to watch, as it mainly consists of 
scenery (presumably) filmed on George's Hawaiian property.  Interspersed with
the scenery are shots of George playing guitar with waves crashing around him,
(shades of Help!), and shots of what appear to be a picnic with George, Olivia,
and assorted friends.

>The Wilbury videos of which I am aware  
>are "Handle with Care" and "End of the Line" (the one in the train car)  
>from Vol. I and "She's My Baby" from Vol. III.

They also did a video for the charity single "Nobody's Child."  The actual
Wilburys do not appear in the clip though, but are represented with animated
versions of a child's drawings of the band.  In addition to the animation,
there are many shots of the orphans, and the conditions they were forced to
live under.

If I get around to it, I will put together a videography of Beatles, and solo 
promos.

<ESC>

-- 
..You either kiss the future or the past goodbye...
                          -- Ringo Starr (written by O'Deherty / Velez)

                                
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu (saki)
Subject: Re: Helter Skelter
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 20:07:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.001117.26594@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> CS19240760T@LUST2.LATROBE.EDU.AU (VURGUN, SINAN) writes:
>	I read somewhere that the Beatles recorded a 27 minute
>        long version of helter skelter not intended for release.
>	Does anybody know where i could find a recording of that
>  	in Australia or anywhere else?

You might want to check with Dr. Macca himself. He had a long take---
27 minutes 11 seconds---copied from the EMI tape library in October
1968 (the session tape had been recorded earlier that year on 18 July)
and took the tape copy home with him.

Don't know if he still has it. :-) But if one has made it out to an
unauthorized recording (whether Australia or anywhere else in the
world), this personal copy of Paul's is the likely source.
--
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"And when I plugged 'er in she just blew up."
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saki (dmac@math.ucla.edu)