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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 10:07:23 EDT
From:         EL406041@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (58
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Posted on 7 Sep 1992 at 06:46:56 by torkel@SICS.SE
>  Not a very perceptive comment by Asimov. Bertie Wooster is not at all
>blithering twit.

Hmmm...I'd've said he was, too.  He's so dependent on Jeeves!

Karen
who could use a butler right about now....
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:01:22 -0500
From:         "Pat Gathright" <patg@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      College choice
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	One of my student, Dana Ray, is trying to limit her college choices
before she sends out applications. She is in to top 5 percent of her class  at
MacArthur High School in San Antonio, Texas with a 97.6 average. Her
interest are in International Relations and she would like to go to school
out of state. Since she is the oldest daughter of a single
parent, she will need financial assistance. She has limited her choices to
Georgetown, Duke, Brown, George Washington, Tulane, Johns Hopkins,
Stanford and University of Virginia. She has considered financial aid,
course of study, housing, and location to limit her selection to these 8
schools. Her question is what to look at next. She would like to apply to
3 or 4 of these universities.
	I told Dana I know just the group to help. Your comments and
suggestions about these universities would be appreciated.
--patg
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:22:00 JST
From:         Akio Tanaka <TANAKA%JPNSUT20.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Gleanings (59)

Natalie writes (7 Sep 92):

at] > Nothing is missing from the archive tape, as far as I know.  The weekly

nm] Except for the first few weeks or so before Akio subscribed.  I wish I
nm] had saved the very first postings.  The list started in October '89.
====================
Natalie,

But I thought that the logs of October and November, 1989 had been
<included> in the archive tape.  Their filenames are WORD8910.LOG (74.6 KB)
and WORD8911.LOG (214.9 KB), respectively.  If they happen to be <missing>,
let me know.  I can <always> send these two files to you.  The first file
contains a <distinguished> article on 'split infinitive' by <Anne Harwell>.

Gleanings (59).  <Any> information <will> be appreciated.

Last Week's Mail

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 1) Steel Magnolia culture (Natalie)
 2) AP test (Steph)
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10) OTFAICGU (<Gilbert>)
11) Vegged out k-rad d00dz (Jim T.)
12) Wheel of Math/Vanna Binominal/Hydrospace (Marty)
13) Abbie Hoffman/Barry Freed/Spiro Igloo (Neal/Paul B.)
14) Dr. Spock school of linguistic child-raising (Natalie)
15) Gigi/Gaston (Evelyn)
16) SEK (Torkel)
17) GRE (Agnes)
18) CFPIII (Rita)
19) SG/Hunter S. Thompson (Anne Hr.)
20) Bugsy Siegal (Jim T.)
21) Guacamole-textured elderly brain (Bayla)
22) "Ceptin!" (Anne Hr.)
23) 'Error' penny/Buffalo nickel/'double die' penny (Ricch)
24) IV bag (Ricch)
25) "Malquiades"/OHYOS (Rita/<Gilbert>)
26) Ellsworth Kelly/David Salle (Anne Hr.)
27) Archibald MacLeish/Archie Leech (Anne Hr./Judith S.)
28) Leaden knaidlach of Borscht Belt comedy (Neal)
29) Double nickel (Ruth H.)
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Re: Visiting LA and Chicago
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 18:56:00 GMT
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harwell@TENET.EDU (Anne Burton Harwell) writes:
> Tushar is in chicago.

Or so we are led to believe.  I called the number listed
for Tushar in the Chicago phone book several times a day
through the weekend with no answer.  The U of C info people
didn't have a listing for any Samants.

Are we being fooled?

--karsten

(He's probably a Hoosier embarrassed to be in the Quayle state)
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:06:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Tongues, Jasmine, and Football (was Re: To
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> natalie, you posted an amusing set of rules for semiologists
> or some such pillocks.  It included things like 'never refer
> to writing; it's always 'a text''  and lots of good names to drop.
> Wish I could find it - it would be interesting to see if it rang
> any bells against some recent posts.  Your spoof postings today
> were in exactly the right style.
>
> G

Oh oh oh.... this is *too* funny, which is the only thing that
is keeping me from bursting into tears.  Those <spoof postings>
dear G, were direct quotes from my book review in the South
Atlantic Review, and it *is* a shock to see one's own jargon
spread across the screen.  In my defense, I must say that I was
reviewing a book written in a certain <mode>.....  I was talking
the language of the book itself....
And, furthermore, let me say that I've NEVER been so INSULTED
in my LIFE!   Arrrgghhhhh!
--ggs (just now regaining his <composure>....)
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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 16:30:52 -0500
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Review
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On Sat, 12 Sep 1992, Judith E. Schrier wrote:

> Elaine, you may keep him :-)
>
> love, judith


...that noise you just heard was the Net rippling.

-abh
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Where *is* everyone tonight?  I was off cooking dinner, and eating it, and
helping clean up after it.  What's y'alls excuses?

The interesting thing is not that I cooked dinner, or that it was delicious if
I say so myself. [mom did the mashed potatoes, give credit where credit is
due]  The good part was who was eating it with the parental units and me - 
Adam, the List Honey himself.  He drove down after work, braving the perils
of I-91 and its mid-constructivist exit ramps, to partake of sauerbraten and
chocolate cake. [to mention the important things in life]  

Why no word to the list?  Before dinner we used the borrowed account to telnet
all over creation, messing with various accounts and generally having a good 
time.  Until we got into Brown, that is.  My modem software takes all those
for its own deviant purposes, and just like the sessions at Aunt Mama's, we
couldn't do squat.  

Afterwards, while the cleanup from hurricane gingersnap gravy was in progress,
we were busy comparing notes about old German recipes for various cakes and
cookies.  <clock spins, time passes>  After that, it was late enough that
the List Honey was starting to doze off - a common problem when you get up at
5:30, so we let him go home while he was still alert enough to drive.  A jar
of strawberry jam went along for the ride....

C'est tout, no sordid details of she/hes in mini skirts and spikes, no library
shelves, no Quintana Roo.  Just the general hairyness of trying to negotiate
three miles of construction in an unfamiliar area.  Which was probably 
interesting enough....

Ruth
waiting for the mail to start pouring in as it's supposed to...
Giggles, old chap, WHERE'S PART THREE???
-- 
Nethead, aka the Ruth Hanschka, hath enscribed herein, a message
	ap290 and ak743 , both of the Cleveland Freenet
			Here Be Dragons
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From: bayla@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bayla Singer)
Subject: Re: Plumbing Woes
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 00:22:37 GMT


Many hardware or paint stores will sell a small bottle of enamel-paint for
precisely the purpose of reparing nicks in porcelain fixtures.  In the more
sophisticated cities, one can obtain this paint in a variety of colors
(harvest gold, avocado, etc) to match the popular porcelaitones.

The stuff actually works: if it's a deep nick (say, down to the base
metal), it pays to build up in layers, letting the paint dry between coats.
I used thistechnique  on the sink in my previous domicile, and it lasted
six years.  

--bayla
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From: bayla@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bayla Singer)
Subject: Re: Gleanings (58
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Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 23:43:46 GMT

Alas, poor

>Karen
>who *NEVER* babbles or cackles, or does anything that ends in -les, more's
>the pity


--What, no snuggles?  no huggles?  no frazzles?  no sizzles? no ripples?
no tipples?  

no Giggles??!!

--bayla (in disbelief)
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 04:48:36 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Cook the judas goat first...
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> Only if it's a veggie simulacrum on wheels. I have an aversion to
> cooked flesh and avoid it when possible.

Since the crowd will no doubt be large, we should have two goats.  One
can be a soybean goat.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: For WHo's Sake?
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>I expect most of you have heard the expression "For Pete's Sake!"....I was
>wondering why Pete?  Why not Frank?  and why let George do it?  Why not
>"for Frank's sake, let Bill do it!".  Or, better yet why not Sue?  Yes!
>"For Sue's sake!"  Then people using that expression would be known as
>"Sues sayers".

	'Pete' is one of the zillion or so nicknames for the devil.

	As for 'George,' I have no insight other that the certainty that it
	*doesn't* refer to our current President.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:16:53 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Rhubarb Pie: A Plea for Sanity
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>      Yes, what's the word for eating dirt?  Pregnant ladies do it, and

pica
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 00:11:00 CDT
From:         "tk0jut1@niu.bitnet Jim Thomas"
 <TK0JUT1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Today's pop quiz

Graham pontificates:

    >isn't it rather worrying that Jim's university-level sociology
    >class *don't* know the meaning of disinterested?

Seems they all share a common understanding in context, doesn't
it? Virtually no disagreement on how they perceive the word to be
used in their culture. Of course, there are those cultural
imperialists who insist that only their own meanings be accepted,
even when an earlier cite from Chambers (which is, afterall,
British-type English) acknowledges "lack of interest" as a proper
meaning. Graham also fails to recognize that the success of
any survey is dependant on the ability of the surveyor to
communicate with an audience (rather than on an ability to
satisfy esoteric and arbitrary rules of syntax/lexicon). But, then,
in a grahamocentric view of the world, guess there is only self
and no other.
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:33:36 EDT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: wordsler birthdays
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On Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:33:39 CDT, "List Goddess" <maynor@ra.msstate.edu> wrote:
> I'm not sure what the birthday program is.  Is that what I used when I
> entered 'crontab -e' (which put me into vi on an empty crontab file)
> and wrote a line something like this:
> 5 6,10,15,18 * * * /usr/ucb/mail -s "Feed Bernard" [address of recipient]
>      < $HOME/[name of file containing message] > /dev/nul 2 >&1

Ah, OK, that *is* doing it the hard way.  Anyway, for people below Natalie's
(or Frank's) level of gurumanship, I was only trying to point out that crontab
didn't send anyone anything - the mail command inside crontab sent people
things.  You can do any command you like in a crontab.

Birthday is a program which sets up an entry like that and mails a standard
e-birthday-card to the recipient on their birthday.  You say something
like:
birthday natalie 12/25/92
(I can't remember exactly because I haven't used it in years)

G
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From:         WERTSJ <WERTSJ%DIALOG@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: hated terms
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>>There are certain terms that have become so overused that I
>>have come to hate them, and to wince whenever they are used
>>at work (primarily).

>OK, I've found the evil prescriptivist.

Well, that *is* one thing I've never been called before...actually
I think this is the first time I've ever been called evil...at
least that I know of.

You've taken my breath away; all I can say is...Grandma Bayla, help!

(Is my dislike of those two terms prescriptivist?  I haven't said
that anyone can/can't use them, or even should/shouldn't, have I?)

>>    1. proactive (this is definitely the A-number-1 horrifying term!)
>>    2. empowerment

>I don't understand (2), since "disempowerment" seems to be higher than
>it somehow.

I'll take a page from Aunt Natalie's book...I don't understand what
you don't understand.

>>(there, did you see me wince, even writing it?)

>No.

Obviously, you weren't watching closely...and I'm hurt.

>tushar

Jill
   (wertsj%dialog@mcimail.com)
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From:         mgarber@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU
Subject:      Re: Aspiration
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re: usenet, gateways
Subj:	Re: Aspiration
From: "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
> forgive my ignorance. What is
> alt.english.usage and how do I access it. Same re alt.folkore.urban

I read something by you on usenet last night, but I guess it was in one
of the gatewayed listserv groups (other than bit.listserv.words-l).  I bet
it was either bit.listserv.history or bit.listserv.travel-l.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From: jwagner@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Judith O Wagner)
Subject: Re: Emoticons
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:43:19 GMT

>> Check out today's Wall Street Journal:  the center-column story is about
>> digital smiley faces ("A Story of the Type That Turns Heads in Computer
>> Circles"). Lots of examples.  I am puzzled by this one:
>>
>>        5:-)      for "I'm Elvis"
>>
>> brad


I'll bet it's his oh-so-wavy hair????

2Judith


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From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Family Tree
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> I'm gonna have to log off and ponder the textuality of the family tree.
                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^
> It's getting complicated.
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

This is, without a *doubt*, the funniest thing that Aunt Natalie
has ever said on this list.....  I am OTFAICGU...
--ggs
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Subject:      Re: Plumbing Woes

Greetings, Natalie,

What tarp?  The tarp they throw over the goat, clams, etc. to hold the
steam in.

Marty
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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 04:59:22 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Nothing Interesting Sat-Sun
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> > the rest of tonight's mail.  Then I'll be away from my computer until
> > late Sunday.  So don't say anything interesting during that time.
> No chance of that!
> -abh

Well, at least make it of untimely essence.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Augmentation
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>     I would like to grovel publicly for giving Karen a hard time
>     about "argumentation."  Now that I know it to be a useful and
>     reputable word, I will use it every day, preferably in the
>     same sentence as "snaguine."

>     Carol

Ooooh, Karen *loves* when people grovel for her, particularly in public.

"'That was some snaguine sensimilla,' groveled Carol, using useful and reputable
argumentation."

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From:         Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM
Subject:      Re[2]: "For"
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>OK, 'fess up - who else is now skipping these unread?

     I'm busted.  For me, these no doubt charming stories fall into
     Calvino's category: "Books That If You Had More Than One Life You
     Would Read But Unfortunately Your Days Are Numbered."

     Carol
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:28:52 -0500
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Geophagy
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On Fri, 4 Sep 1992 BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU wrote:

> One of my great culinary moments was being taken as a tot to my black
> nurse's house to eat clay.  "What this child needs," she had muttered
> one day while we were out, "is a bait of clay."  Everybody in South

I've read that there were (are still?) places in the South where a fresh
bank of clay had been exposed by, say, earth-moving equipment, that one
could observe little pockmarks where balls of clay had been spooned out
for consumption.

Works for me.

-abh
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In a previous article, WHITERJ@ZENO.MSCD.EDU (The Ronin) says:

>> DEFINITELY the big double nickel approaching, Giggles; senility has begun its
>> relentless onslaught...
>
>     Is this based on personal experience or merely observing others?
Personal observation of Giggles in action.  I'm about 30 years away from the
double nickel myself, although both of my parents have reached and passed that
age....  Then again, some people start in on senility early...

>The Ronin
btw - pardon this none-of-my-business question [as if I wouldn't ask it for
that reason] but why do you call yourself the "ronin"?  Curiosity-driven minds
want to know.

-- 
It's Ruth the NetHead, back from the [virtual] dead
	- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
fighting for truth, justice and static-free lines
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 08:37:29 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Today's pop quiz

>IMHO, in a legal context it would mean almost surely mean unbiased -- i.e.,
>without a vested interest in the outcome.
>
>JAG

Or the income.


-Mka
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:22:49 EDT
From:         Evelyn <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Blondie and Dagwood

Did anyone see "Blondie" this morning?  How long will Blondie and Dagwood
work together, and will their working together ruin their marriage?

Evelyn
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:02:36 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: SEX ID
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> let's just say that with a resume like that, he's gonna fit right in here...I
>  can't
> believe Natalie hasn't already posted asking if she can add this to the
>  biographies
> file in ftpspace.

Oh dear.  I forgot the bio space.  And to think -- my little ole delete
finger just zapped the posting away after first glance...  My, oh, my.

I've been meaning to ask abh why her postings of late are wrapping in
that strange way.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Amazon T-shirt News
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> to start to appreciate them.  Hope the blues situation improves,
> Natalie.

I was a little surprised that nobody commented on the ambiguity in what
I said that started this thread.  The ambiguity was not intentional when
I first wrote the words, but I noticed it immediately thereafter and
sent the posting with the ambiguity therefore intentional.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Subject:      Re: Gleanings (58
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              08 Sep 92 03:59:24 -0400."
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>	--What, no snuggles?  no huggles?  no frazzles?  no sizzles? no ripples
>?
>	no tipples?
>
>	no Giggles??!!
>
>	--bayla (in disbelief)
>
>The mind boggles!
>
>G

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