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From: jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Need Help understanding DELTA
Date: 11 Dec 92 16:03:13 GMT
Organization: Investment Management Services Inc., NYC

David Michael Mellott <mellott@db.erau.edu> writes:

	Can anyone explain this DELTA blunder?

I can try to guess.  You might try asking Delta for a more thorough
explaination.  Fares not only have restrictions as to when you buy,
etc., but also the number of seats available for that price.  Thus, you
may have 3 or 4 fares that have the same requirements, but 25 seats are
$400, 35 are $480, and 50 are $560.  If you buy one of the $400 seats,
you got a good deal.  When all of the 25 seats are gone, all that are
left are the $480 and $560 seats.  If you change the day you want to
fly, in order to keep your fare there must be seats available in the
fare class you paid.  Otherwise, you could buy cheap tickets on slow
days and change them later to seats on flights that are full (and thus
commanding a higher price).

My guess is your friend changed days onto a more heavily travelled
day.  The ability to change days effectively gives you a "refund" for
the ticket you purchased that's equivalent to a limited gift
certificate -- it's not like cash, but rather like "good toward any
flight available for the day you want to go between the original city
pair" ...  When you change your day, you only have what's available to
pick from.  The fare class that your friend originally bought is
probably sold out for the new day.

A suggestion: try a different day, like the day before.  If it's
cheaper than $100, she could maybe find a hotel that keeps her total
cost less than the $100.

Sorry to say that airline pricing is not as flexible as everyone would
like.  If it were, all fares would be uniformly high to make up for the
risk of empty planes flying coast to coast.

/jordan
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From: ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu (Noah Cole)
Subject: Re: Need info on aircraft type
Organization: Macalester College, St. Paul Minnesota USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 13:44:39 GMT

gunawan@envmsa.eas.asu.edu (iwan gunawan) writes:

>Hi,

>Could somebody with a Northwest time table check for me what aircraft
>is used on the following flights:

>NW 246 : PHX - DTW
>NW 996 : DTW - ALB

>NW 1519 : ALB - DTW
>NW 249  : DTW - PHX

246: Airbus 320
996: ? (DC9 Most Likely)
1519: DC9
249: Airbus 320

-Noah Cole
--
Noah Cole		"Outside is America,		     NCOLE@MACALSTR.EDU
Macalester College	and also the car park"	            ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu
St. Paul, MN 55105    	- Bono, 27 December 1989      cncole@coos.dartmouth.edu
612-696-7388 		 	Dublin	            aj909@cleveland.freenet.edu
From: lsc124j@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Hard-drives and disks in X-ray
Date: 18 Dec 92 23:55:35 +1100
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

In article <42590@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, cmdavis@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Christopher Davis) writes:
> In article <92350.003011IO11076@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IO11076@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Naushad Hussain) writes:
>>I will be travelling to Asia over the weekend and I plan to carry a
>>laptop computer with me.  I was just wondering if the hard drive or
>>any disks are affected by the X-ray machines.  Any information will
>>be greatly appreciated.
>>   Thanx in advance,
>>  Naushad Hussain
> 
> Diskettes will be affected adversely.  I don't know if the metal
> casing on the computer is sufficient to protect the hard drive.
> Have them both checked by hand.
> 
> - Chris
> 
I was told that it is quite safe to send them through the x-ray machine,
although if they are prepared to hand-inspect it then this is not a problem.
The main tip I have been given is: If they don't make you switch the computer
on, don't get on the flight. Anything with that much wiring needs to be
checked.

In general I have found them quite willing to hand-inspect, the exception being
Frankfurt airport.

What is *very important* though, is not to carry the diskettes on your body
through the x-ray/metal detector; this WILL damage them, just as it damages
film. It is much better to send them through the machine (if hand-inspection is
not an option).

I have had my laptop go through one x-radir
x-ray machine, ditto diskettes in my handbag, with no problems.
But I would RPEFER to have them hand-inspected anyday :-)

Melissa.

Rogerson@bkfug.kfunigraz.ac.at
LSC124J@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
mooner@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
From: mazlack@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: forsale/wanted postings in rec.travel.air
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:09:32 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1992Dec11.120709.1@vms.ocom.okstate.edu>, chorley@vms.ocom.okstate.edu writes:
> In article <HROSE.92Dec10151942@rocza.eff.org>, hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose) writes:
>> chorley> == chorley  <chorley@vms.ocom.okstate.edu> 
>> 
>>  chorley> In article <HROSE.92Dec9125517@rocza.eff.org>, hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose) writes:
>>> rec.travel.marketplace has been around for over a month now, and yet
>>> people are *STILL* posting forsale/wanted postings to rec.travel.air! 
>>> 
>>> PLEASE!! post your forsale/wanted postings to rec.travel.marketplace
>>> instead! 
>> 
>>  chorley> But, Trillian, some of us can't get rec.travel.marketplace.
>> 
>> So yell at your newsadmin! It went through the proper voting procedure,
>> it passed! If your newsadmin never saw it, tell him/her to yell at their
>> uplink-newsfeed. 
>> 
> 	    But, Trillian, some of us are  ***very*** low down in the food
> chain and have very small voices.
> 
>      DNC

Also, who has the time to keep track
of all of the groups and changes?

Some people have more of a life
than to read all the stuff all of the time.

...Larry
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: M14031@mitre.org (Alan Jacobsen)
Subject: Re: Credit card Freq. Flier
Organization: MITRE Corp
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:06:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.111550.1@vms.ocom.okstate.edu>, chorley@vms.ocom.okstate.edu writes:
> 
> Is there a list of Credit cards which offer frequent flier mileage bonuses?

I have a credit card associated with Contental Airlines that gives a FF mile 
for each dollar charged.  May not seem like much, but when charging say $3000 
each month it helps.  Card is a Mastercard with Marine Midland Bank. You can
get regular or gold cards....does not change the FF bonus.
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Fares when death in family
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:53:50 GMT

<KHDLC@ASUACAD.BITNET> wrote: 
->I was wondering if anyone ever had any dealings with airlines and their
->policy for ticket prices when there is a death in the immediate family.

sounds like you didn't do too badly for travel planned at the last
minute.  you make it sound like the airlines are obliged to give
bereavement discounts (these discounts have since vaporized with
crandall's new "value pricing" ... when that vaporizes, the discounts
may return).

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# "fight the real enemy."  -- sinead o'connor, and many others.
#     for information on the league for programming freedom, 
#                     write to lpf@uunet.uu.net
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From: ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu (Noah Cole)
Subject: Bringing a Hard Drive through X-Ray
Organization: Macalester College, St. Paul Minnesota USA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 16:33:06 GMT

I will be traveling on Northwest from Minneapolis to Boston this week with my
105mb Hard Drive in my carry-on baggage, I will also have a modem.  I am not worried about the X-Ray's harming it, but I am worred about having MSP security
believing me that it is a hard drive anbd not a bomb.   I will bring the
power cord to show them that it works, but I will NOT have a computer (Macintosh) with me to actually show them.  Any suggestions?

-Noah Cole
--
Noah Cole		"Outside is America,		     NCOLE@MACALSTR.EDU
Macalester College	and also the car park"	            ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu
St. Paul, MN 55105    	- Bono, 27 December 1989      cncole@coos.dartmouth.edu
612-696-7388 		 	Dublin	            aj909@cleveland.freenet.edu
From: kmeyer@aero.org (Kraig R. Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: New Northwest Travel Destinations
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:41:25
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: solarium.aero.org


Last week, someone mentioned that they wanted to earn frequent flyer
miles on a U.S. airline and then use that mileage to fly to India. 

In the latest FF newsletter, Northwest announces that you can now use
Northwest FF mileage to fly to any KLM destination; India is one of 
those destinations.  There's a new table listing the # of miles needed
to fly to various destinations on KLM.

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From: hafer@apple.com (Rob Hafer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Good deal at Wyndham hotels
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:13:09 GMT
Followup-To: rec.travel.air
Organization: Apple Computer

A Wyndham Hotels promotion offers "Stocking Stuffer Weekend" gift
certificates good for stays at any Wyndham hotel or resort (except
off-shore locations). Each certificate, costing $59, covers a two-day
(Fri-Sat) stay (tax is extra). Buy certificates 11/27-12/24 at any 
domestic Wyndham hotel or resort, stay 12/1/92-12/30/93, subject to
availability and blackout dates at some western locations locations. 
For more info, call Wyndham (800-822-4200).

The minimum 'rack' rate for these hotels ranges from $89 to $195. 
I just bought four of these certificates so that I could visit 
Tampa, Philly, Charlotte, and DC when flying on free tickets 
next year.

Locations:

Wyndham Hotels & Resorts: 
Austin TX, Chicago IL, Houston TX (2), Milwaukee WI, Palm Springs CA,
Philadelphia PA, San Antonio TX, Scottsdale AZ, Tampa FL, Washington DC

Wyndham Garden Hotels (typically suburban, geared for biz travellers):
Atlanta GA (3), Charlotte NC, Chicago IL (2), Dallas TX, Detroit MI,
Indianapolis IN, Milwaukee WI, Minneapolis MN, Nashville TN, 
Phoenix (3), San Diego CA, San Jose CA, Seattle WA (2), City of 
Commerce (LA area) CA

(I also heard a rumor that they're adding New York and New Orleans 
to this list early next year)
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From: kwok@goofy.sqi (Steven Kwok)
Subject: Airline Ticket For Sale
Reply-To: kwok@goofy.sqi
Organization: Siemens - Quantum Inc.
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 00:54:34 GMT

	I have a round trip American Airline ticket for sale.
It is a NON-stop direct flight between Seattle SeaTac airport
and Chicago O'Hara airport.

        Departure on 12:01 am December 24 1992 from SeaTac
        Return on 9:30 pm December 28 1992 from Chicago.

Great for Christmas travel!. The ticket is valid until
December 1993(valid for one year) and you can change the
flight schedule with an $25 fee.

        I am asking $360 for my round trip ticket. Please
reponse by email or call me at (206) 392-8436. Steven.
From: guyc@strl.labs.tek.com (Guy Cherry)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Disney Data Collection
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:50:03 GMT
Organization: STRL, Tektronix, Inc.

Well I've decided to spring for the family vacation to Disney World this summer and
since I can't seem to ever purchase anything without a great deal of research I'm
starting to look into the Disney World options.   I've already collected the usual
brochures and price sheets from the hotels in the park and village but I'd also like
to collect feedback from all of you. So send me some email and tell me where you've
stayed and whether you liked it.  Especially tell me what kinds of special discounts
you've received in packages or whatever.  I'll happily compile this data and post it
if I get enough back that's worthwhile.

--------
UUCP:	    ...!tektronix!crl.labs!guyc
Email:	    guyc@crl.labs.tek.com
US Mail:    Guy Cherry, Computer Research Lab, Tektronix, Inc.  
                Box 500  MS 50-662, Beaverton OR 97077
Phone:	    503-627-1123
From: tab@creek.Eng.Sun.COM (Tom Booth)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Yosemite Park Accommodation
Date: 18 Dec 1992 00:21:07 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: tab@creek.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: creek


In the valley your options are:
The Ahwahnee - old and elegant                    $150/night
Yosemite Lodge - typical high end motel           $40 - $80
   during the summer they have cabins, if available in winter
   they are less expensive, communal bath
Curry village - tent cabins                       $40 - 60

About half an hour out of the valley you can stay at
The Wawona - also old, nice looking but I have 
             never been inside                    $60

   Prices may not be entirely current.  Call (209) 252-4848
for reservations at any of the accomodations.

   I would not recommend staying outside of the valley.  You have
come all that way, why spend 40 minutes commuting in to the valley
from outside?  From the lodge you can walk to Yosemite falls in five 
minutes.  It'sa nice walk about 8 or 9 at night but it wouldn't be 
so good if you had a drive out in the snow IMHO.
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From: david@aim1.aztec.co.za (David Mason)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Europe, cheaper in Spain, Italy, Greece ane Turkey?
Date: 11 Dec 92 09:06:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: aim1.david.724064762
Organization: Aztec Information Management

cstsao@cs.olemiss.edu (Ta-Wei (David) Tsao) writes:

>During recession year, is it cheaper to visit europe in southern
>country like Spain, Italy, Greece ane Turkey?  Or, is it cheaper to
>northern country like Germany, Austria, Switzland, England and Sweden?
>Thanks!

I don't think it matters when you travel.  I'd rate them (on personal
experiance, not hard economic data) from a car tourist's view:

Sweden Italy Switzerland Austria England Germany Spain Greece Turkey.
-- 
David Mason, Unix system support.
Aztec Information Management, Cape Town, South Africa.
#####
Status symbol of the 1990's ........ a job.
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From: jpenovic@encore.com (Jan Penovich)
Subject: Re: Yosemite Park Accommodation
Reply-To: jpenovic@encore.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:19:58 GMT

In article <lj26bjINNhcb@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, tab@creek.Eng.Sun.COM (Tom
Booth) writes:
> 
> About half an hour out of the valley you can stay at
> The Wawona - also old, nice looking but I have 
>              never been inside                    $60

  I've stayed there several times. They have various
  accommodations.  There is the main hotel building that also
  contains the restaurant, lobby with big woodburning
  fireplace and sitting area. (They have a piano player there
  some nights and everyone sits around listening, singing,
  reading, playing chess/checkers).  Very relaxed.  No televisions. 
  There is the annex building containing hotel rooms with private 
  baths (tubs have the claw feet), and there are cottages 
  (actually small houses) that I've never been in.

  I always stay in the annex.  It's comfortable and very warm in
  the winter.  At Christmas time the place is decorated
  beautifully with an old fashioned tree in the lobby.  One
  year Santa and his wife drove up in a stage coach and gave
  out presents to all the kids (parents secretly left gifts at
  the front desk the day before).  One night before Christmas
  the rangers took everyone on a candlelit tour of the pioneer
  village next door.  People in period costumes answered the
  doors of all the buildings and we sang carols.  It was
  really neat.


> 
>    I would not recommend staying outside of the valley.  You have
> come all that way, why spend 40 minutes commuting in to the valley
> from outside?  From the lodge you can walk to Yosemite falls in five 
> minutes.  It'sa nice walk about 8 or 9 at night but it wouldn't be 
> so good if you had a drive out in the snow IMHO.

  I don't find it a problem driving to the Valley as the trip
  is so beautiful and you always get to stop on the other side
  of the Wawona tunnel for that great view of half dome.

  I've driven in the snow there many times.  No big deal.
  Just make sure you have snow tires on the car and snow chains
  handy.  The last time I was there it snowed every day for the week 
  (I stayed in Yosemite West that time. It's not far from Badger Pass).
  We put the chains on outside the park, and didn't take them
  off until we left a week later and we almost at Oakhurst.

  There are also neat uncrowded places to hike in the Wawona area.
  
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From: haney@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (HANEY PATRICIA J)
Subject: Re: Immunizations for Belize
Keywords: immunizations shots disease malaria
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:33:30 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.162038.3064@igs.com> bruce@igs.com (Bruce DeYoung) writes:
>My wife and I will be travelling to Belize and were wondering what, if any,
>shots we NEED to get?  Any recent Belize-traverlers have the scoop?
>
>Thanks,
>Bruce
>bruce@igs.com

On campus here at the student health center, they run a travel clinic.
When I was preparing for a road trip through Mexico to Belize they took
care of all my shots, prescribed some meds, and gave me handouts and advice.
As far as I understand, there are no *requirements* of immunizations to
enter the country, unlike some of the African countries.

The immunizations that the clinic *recommended* I get or be up to date on
included:   Tetanus-Diptheria, especially if travelling to remote areas,
            Polio, but most Americans will have had that from childhood,
            Typhoid, either given as a series of shots or capsules to take,
      and   Hepatitus A, given as a gamma globulin shot that lasts up to
               six months depending on dose

They also gave me a prescription for Chloroquine used as a preventative
measure against Malaria in areas where the disease isn't yet Chloroquine-
resistant. This medication is started two weeks before the trip and is taken
once a week while there. Keep in mind, this was all for a trip overland through
lots of rustic areas. I don't know that all this preventative stuff is needed
if you're just hitting the beaches at the resorts. You might want to check 
your yellow pages for a travel clinic near you for the best advice.

Some others to contact:
   International Association for Medical Assistance to Travelers
     Lewiston, NY  (716) 754-4883
     they provide world immunization & climate charts and a directory of
     English-speaking  physicians
   Intermedic
     New York, NY  (212) 486-8974
     provides immunization guidelines
   Overseas Citizen's Emergency Center
     Washington, D.C.  (202) 632-5225
     provides emergency help if injured abroad, under the jurisdiction of
     the US State Dept
   Centers for Disease Control
     "Information Hotline"  (404) 332-4559
These are all from the handouts I was given at the clinic.
Hope this helps! Good luck and have a fun trip.
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From: jpenovic@encore.com (Jan Penovich)
Subject: Florida Attractions reopening
Reply-To: jpenovic@encore.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:31:51 GMT

For those of you coming to Florida, several of the hurricane
damaged attractions in South Florida are reopening this week.

Everglades National Park reopened yesterday. Some of the
camping areas are not reopening.  The tourist center is
temporarily in a trailer.

I saw it on the news yesterday, and it looked great.  Lots of
birds, alligators, etc.

The Miami Seaquarium reopened yesterday.
I saw it on the news too.  Looks good. Lolita (the killer
whale) looks great.

The Miami Metro Zoo is reopening on Friday.  It will be
approximately 85% open.  The aviary, koala, and elephant areas
are still closed. They lost thousands of trees and the aviary
was blown away.

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From: johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine)
Subject: Re: Laguardia to Port Authority
Organization: I.E.C.C.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:15:39 GMT

>I will be arriving at the LaGuardia airport in NYC at 6 pm, Christmas
>Day. Could anybody tell me a safe, cheap, speedy way to get from there
>to the Port Authority bus terminal ?

The Carey bus goes to the bus terminal every 15 minutes with one stop at
Grand Central.  The fare is $8.50, no tips.  Call 718 632 0500 for more
info.

Two other possibilities: if you can find one or two other people going to
the bus terminal, you can share a cab for a total of about $25.

For the serious cheapskate, you can take a city bus for $1.25 which takes
you to the subway, where for another $1.25 you take the number 7 train all
the way to the end at Times Square.  There is a rather creepy but
reasonably safe underground walkway from the subway station to the bus
terminal, clearly marked with yellow signs.

Helpful tip: when using a phone at the bus terminal, don't make any
calling card calls.  It's the world's capital for "shoulder surfing,"
people who watch you dial your number and then use it to make calls to
places like Colombia.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us, {spdcc|ima|world}!iecc!johnl
-- 
John R. Levine, IECC, POB 349, Cambridge MA 02238, +1 617 492 3869
johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us, {ima|spdcc|world}!iecc!johnl
"Time is Money!  Steal some today!"
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From: Edward_Lunny@mindlink.bc.ca (Edward Lunny)
Subject: Re: Tourist Guide
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 16:16:24 GMT

Totally depends on your pocketbook and mode of travel.  However I used 'Let's
go" for a 2 month period in Greece, Italy and france and would say it was
very good but only if you are on a limited budget.
--

 " Ted "
From: anahita@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Anahita Varjavand)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:50:13 GMT
Subject: Sante Fe, New Mexico
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: rec.travel


Hi,

My husband and I are planning to go to Santa Fe, New Mexico during the
holidays. We would like to get some suggestions on accommodations, 
restaurants, and things to do in and around Santa Fe.

Thanks in advance for any information,

Anahita Thornycroft
Hewlett-Packard
1-408-447-6055
anahita@cup.hp.com