HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Rosaleen Dhu)
Subject: stuff
Reply-To: st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:19:30 GMT

Some more loose ends:
	1. Don't pick on They Might Be Giants. They are a good band...IF you
like that sort of thing. If you don't, no big deal. (As a music major, I'm
qualified to tell you that, technically, their voices are quite good, as is
some of their music.)
	2. In the same episode of 90210 that Andrea referred to Cicely, she
also referred to my school, Brandeis. My 12-year-old sister would like to 
know what other schools were referred to. Anyone know> There must be a 90210
newsgroup--anyone know?
	3. Re: Candice Bergen doin' Sprint ads. In one episode, Eldon, the
erstwhilr house painter, says, "Yeah, AT&T called but I told 'em you
already had a long-distance phone company." From this I inferred that it was
not supposed to be Murphy doing the ads, since the show's writers are too
smart to do a joke as flat as that.
	4. Victor: In mentioning the mythical powers of "Toy Cows In Africa",
you forgot the most important one: If you play it backwards, maybe it will
give you The Question. (for non-Hitchhiker's guide freaks, the Answer is
42 and nobody knows wot the Question is.)
	5. In the episode with the guy who turned into a bear, the guy's human
name was Arthur. Arthur=Artos, ancient Celtic word for "bear" or Idris,
modern Welsh name meaning "Bear". (In Wales, the constellation of Ursa Major,
which used to be called the Plough over there, is called Cader Idris--the
Plough of the Bear.) 
				Rosaleen Dhu
From: djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Season's premier, loud musical score?
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:12:51 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

>The volume was terrible! The scene in the Brick, where Shelley talks to 
>Maggie about turning thirty, was awful! I almost couldn't hear the 
>dialog over the music.

I heard it just fine in San Diego.  If it was loud, I didn't notice.
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From: lw2c@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Levi  Wallach)
Subject: Re: our Flying Man
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:04:49 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.211748.12558@ll.mit.edu> nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith) writes:
>i noticed our Flying Man, Bill Irwin, last night in the
>Steve Martin network (NBC) movie, "My Blue Heaven".  He
>played one of Rick Maranis' sidekick FBI agents with an
>uncontrollable urge to dance at times.
>
>- nate

I noticed him a while back as having a tiny part in the movie "Popie."
His whole role practically was just slapstick.  He may have said 5 or
10 words at most, though he was visible every once in a while throughout
the whole film.


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From: tsirbasc@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Tsirbas Christos)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: The Season Premiere
Summary: Some thoughts about Premiere
Date: 29 Sep 92 06:34:29 GMT
Distribution: NE Fans Everywhere
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Some thoughts about the season premiere and posts on this newsgroup:


Chris-Flamers:  The guy finally admitted he can sometimes be
a jerk.  Satisfied?

Maggie is a Wimp posters:  How many wimps do you know that would
canoe out into the middle of nowhere to spend a night in the wild-
erness alone, especially if said wimps are women.

I think that the writers have finally opened the doors to expand
Maggie's character and to rid her of some of her neuroses.

Fleischman is a self-centred jerk posters:  Hey, he showed compassion
in helping Maggie, and faced his fear of flying in helicopters.
Maybe he is becoming less neurotic too.

Overall, it was a pretty good episode, just one observation and com-
plaint:  The Music.  Did anybody else notice that, for the first time
since I have started watching the show, that the music was pretty lame
with the exception of the Instrumental that Chris was playing when  
Maurice walked into KBHER to read him the introductory paragraph of
his memoirs?  This statement is not flame-bait, do not construe it
as such, unless, of course, you really have a chip about run-on 
sentences.

Chris in Montreal
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From: sharonc@meaddata.com (Sharon Crichton)
Subject: Re: Season's premier, loud musical score?
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:19:48 GMT
Reply-To: sharonc@meaddata.com
Distribution: na

In article <1992Sep30.185539.28910@indetech.com>, alix@indetech.com (Alexandria North) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep29.200015.23153@leland.Stanford.EDU> sgsimon@leland.Stanford.EDU (Steve Simon) writes:
|> >In article <1992Sep29.060211.16041@onion.rain.com> jeff@onion.rain.com (Jeff Beadles) writes:
|> >>
|> >>Is it just me, or was the premier this evening's musical score VERY loud?
|> >>It almost seemed like a different show, but still good none the less.
|> >
|> >I agree.  Several other posters have commented on the CONTENT of the
|> >music on the season premiere, but what struck me was the VOLUME (ie.
|> >loudness).  There were several scenes where I had trouble hearing what
|> >the characters were saying due to loud music or other background noise
|> >(esp. the birds).  Was this a problem with my cable company somehow,
|> >or did other people notice this too?
|> >
|> 
|> The volume was terrible! The scene in the Brick, where Shelley talks to 
|> Maggie about turning thirty, was awful! I almost couldn't hear the 
|> dialog over the music. I live in San Jose, and get TCI cable...there are 
|> several different cable companies in the SF Bay Area, so I don't know 
|> if it was TCI or what.
|> 
|> Did anyone who lives outside the San Francisco Bay Area have the music
|> volume problem?

Yes and no. We have two CBS channels on our cable system (Continental
Cablevision in Dayton, OH), WHIO from Dayton (on 7) and WCPO? from Cinci
(on 13). The stereo effect was much more pronounced on 13 than on 7, almost
like the feed on 13 was in Dolby surround and the feed on 7 was not. My
guess is that it's a combination of the cable system and the feed coming
from the stations in question. In the bar scene, the dialog was almost
completely drowned out on 13 but was just right on 7 (I was flipping
the channels back and forth to compare).

But damn, that eagle screech was awesome on 13!

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From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: Anchor Steam Beer
Organization: The Little Beer Squids of the Poor
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:54:06 GMT

In article <1aa3dkINN211@agate.berkeley.edu> kpatel@roger-rabbit.cs.berkeley.edu (KETAN DASHARATH PATEL) writes:
>Love the show, love the newsgroup.
>I saw someone mention Anchor Steam beer being served at the Brick,
>and thought I would comment.

[stuff deleted.]

>The funny thing is that there are a LOT of Seattle beers they could 
>have chosen to add local flavor or they could have gone with Henry's,
>the quintessential Oregon beer that's been around for a long time and
>very popular on the West Coast. 

If you haven't seen Seattle beers on Northern Exposure, then you need to
look a little more closely. Last night for example, I noticed a Ballard's
Bitter sign at the bar. In the past shows, many of the Seattle micro
breweries have had some product placement. I think I've seen a couple
of Oregonian beers too. (Hood River Full Sail Ale and Pyramid? Is that right?)

As far as beers go, the taps & bottles all tend to be smaller breweries. You
almost never (ever?) see a Miller or Bud bottle. Maybe they consider
Blitz-Weinhardt too big for the the show.

It's a nice touch, but I wish they'd get an Alaskan beer on. Is it
still Chinook?
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From: guppy@wixer.cactus.org (Jennifer Mery)
Subject: Re: One more time- Who did Toy Cows?
Keywords: cows, toy
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 08:11:18 GMT

Ok, well there's no way it's The Might Be Giants, period.

From what I've heard on the net, that song is by Miriam Makeba. I found
her CDs in the world music - African subsection of the CD store, I
looked at all of her CDs they had, and I didn't find a song called "Toy
Cows" on any of them, so while I still believe the person who said it
was her... I am now unsure if the song is really called "Toy Cows in
Africa" and if it IS called that, then what's the name of the album it's
on? If we dont find out here, maybe we can cross post this to a group
that would know.


jam
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From: ttw@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (thomas.t.wetmore..iv)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Alaskan Bears
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:30:33 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

Just to add my two-cents to clear up bear stereotypes.  Alaska has
three species of bears: grizzly, black, and polar.  The huge bears of
Kodiak Island and the panhandle, sometimes treated as a forth kind of
bear, are now regarded as a big grizzly.  (Black bears often are not
black.)

Bears are not a problem in the wild (only exceptions: polar bears at
all times [but they are never in the interior]; black and grizzlies when
you are between a mama bear and her cubs; all bears when influenced by
garbage dumps and human handouts).  Stories of maulings and other horrors
are cheap hype.  By simply making noises while hiking any bears around
make themselves scarce.  It is difficult to find a bear in Alaska even if
you want to.

I spent four years living in Alaska, some of the time involved in
back country evironmental work for various agencies.  I spent another
two years living in Edmonton, Aberta, but spending much of the time in
Alaska doing additional environmental work.  In all that time I had
four encounters with bears, three grizzlies (one of those a monstrous
coastal grizzly on Hinchenbrook Island) and one black.  The grizzlies
dissappeared as soon as they were aware of me.  The black I had to twice
chase out of camp with a broom (we had been sloppy keeping the kitchen
tent clean).  At no time during those six years did I or any of my
colleagues worry about bears.  At no time during those six years did I
or any of my colleagues carry firearms.

Tom Wetmore
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From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: Anchor Steam Beer
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 07:22:21 GMT


Interesting the way beer gets popular from a tv show--now if folks on tv
drank diet coke, I could then say I was already a part of the trend they
started...but then, I can just imagine myself walking into The Brick and
trying to order a diet coke, the whole place would get quiet, and a pin
dropping would sound like thunder.

geez, I try to type in a NEXP frame of mind at 2 am and just end up looking
stupid..   later,
Simon
From: stan@ntg.com (Stan Shepard)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Canoe last night
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:36:43 GMT
Organization: New Technologies Group, Inc.  Palo Alto CA

In article <BvC6sy.JI0.2@cs.cmu.edu> br@cs.cmu.edu writes:
>
>    Perhaps I'm being picky, but the canoe on last night's show
>    was just a little too much.  It was a brand-shiny-new
>    plastic Old Town ...  Whose canoe was it anyway?
>    Fleischman probably doesn't have a canoe but Ed would.  ...
>    or is this a product placement scheme?

	Of course this is product placement.  But so what?

	If you need an explaination for the new expensive canoe, consider
this.  Fleischnam has been told that he will encounter hunting accidents
in remote parts of the nearby surroundings.  He therefore bought (billing
the state of Alaska) a new canoe just in case.  This is the first time
he's needed to use it.  Good foresight on his part No?

-- 
						Stan
From: crittend@cs.unc.edu (bac)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Canoe last night
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:41:23 GMT
Reply-To: crittend@cs.unc.edu
Organization: Worldwide Pants Incorporated

In article <1a9la3INNq1d@eagle.natinst.com>, winkeler@natinst.com (Keith Winkeler) writes:
>In article <BvC6sy.JI0.2@cs.cmu.edu> br@cs.cmu.edu writes:
>>
>>    ?  What other examples of product placement have
>>    folks noticed?  Apple Macs, certainly.
>
>Did you notice one of the beers being sold at the Brick? Anchor
>Steam Beer. 

yeah i noticed the Anchor Steam immediately.  surely this was new or
at least much more prominent than in the past.  but is it realistic to
believe they would have anchor steam up there?

joel has always worn patagonia gear, which is believable.  the
patagonia label seems awry, though, as though they wanted it's look
without being the exact label.  perhaps they wanted the patagonia look
but they wouldn't pay the product placement fee???

so, for those keeping score:
Old Town canoes
Anchor Steam
Apple Macintosh
Patagonia

-- 

_________brad crittenden_________________________crittend@cs.unc.edu_________

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives.
	-- John Stuart Mill
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From: br@cs.cmu.edu (Bill Ross)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Canoe last night
Date: 29 Sep 92 11:05:21 GMT
Reply-To: br@cs.cmu.edu
Organization: CMU Vision and Autonomous Systems Center


    Perhaps I'm being picky, but the canoe on last night's show
    was just a little too much.  It was a brand-shiny-new
    plastic Old Town and they made real sure that you saw that
    name on it.  Whose canoe was it anyway?  Fleischman probably
    doesn't have a canoe but Ed would.  Would Ed have a brand new
    fiberglass canoe with not a speck of dirt on it?  I doubt
    he could even afford it.  Were the props people too lazy to
    find a canoe to fit Ed, or is this a product placement
    scheme?  What other examples of product placement have
    folks noticed?  Apple Macs, certainly.

    Bill
From: kpatel@roger-rabbit.cs.berkeley.edu (KETAN DASHARATH PATEL)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: More on Beers.
Date: 6 Oct 1992 21:52:17 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: roger-rabbit.cs.berkeley.edu

Olympia was widely available in Chicago, Kansas City, and Omaha when
I lived there in the late 70's early 80's, but so what, its a terrible
brew.

The REAL QUESTION:
What was the beer Ed, Joel,  Chris, and Bernard
were drinking in the Midnight Sun Episode when Joel wakes
up 3 days later and finds out what happened at the B-Ball
game? And is anyone keeping a tabulated beer inventory?

A final note:
Personally, I think that one of the best things about NX is
the dynamic between Chris and Bernard. The African dream
episode is hysterical.

ketan patel
kpatel@cs.berkeley.edu
From: jrjj@moscom.com (Jad Jordan)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: John Collum
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:06:12 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford NY

In article <1992Oct1.134433.1@elwing.fnal.gov> lauri@elwing.fnal.gov (Laurelin of Middle Earth) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.164018.15396@colorado.edu>, 
>iovine@columbine.cs.colorado.edu (Francesca Iovine) writes:
>> ...
>> Maybe in some upcoming espisode his character will belt 
>> out a show-tune...
>
>Some time back, on the NPR radio program _Fresh_Air_, I heard an interview
>with John Cullum.  He mentioned that at one point there was an episode where
>Chris and/or Maurice were playing various show tunes on KBHR, and one of the
>albums/songs that was playing in the background was John Cullum singing a
>show tune (it may have been "On a Clear Day You Can See Forever", but I'm
>not sure).  In any case, that particular scene was left on the cutting-room
>floor.

A recent re-run of Quantum Leap on USA raised an interesting item. The episode
had Sam leap into an understudy for The Man of La Mancha. The lead role was   
played by one John Cullum, and he did a very good job. I had assumed the voice
had been dubbed, but in a later shot, John sang by himself in a drunken stupor
which could not have been dubbed. The interesting thing was the role of
Dulcinea (sp) was played by Janine Turner. She didn't do any singing, but looked
very nice with long hair and an off-the-shoulder low cut peasent blouse.

-Jad
From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Toy Cows...Not by....
Date: 27 Sep 92 05:56:26 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

Umm, I have a hard time beleiving that "Toy Cows" could be by Miriam
Makeba. She's a powerful vocalist who sings emotional, South African
and jazz type songs, in English and several African lanuages.

"Toy Cows" ....just doesn't sound like her. 
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From: franks@synoptics.com (Frank Stutzman)
Subject: Re: NX Premiere "Northwest Passages"
Reply-To: franks@synoptics.com
Organization: Synoptics Inc. Santa Clara, California.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:14:12 GMT

In article 5212@newsance.att.com, kimi@newsance.att.com (Kimiye Tipton;ball of confusion) writes:
>In article <BvGAs1.K2E@encore.com> tflynn@encore.com (Tonya Flynn) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep30.164651.1249@u.washington.edu> iho@cac.washington.edu writes:
>>My immediate thought was that this "annual" examination might be
>>part of the annual physical required for her pilot's license.
>>In that case, I don't think a pelvic is required.  I also think
>                                                 or biennial?
>No, the medical exam for a pilot's license is biannual, as is the
>recertification, 

Sorry, Kimiye, you havn't quite got this right.  A person holding a private
pilots license must hold a 3rd class medical certificate which means a 
examination must be done biannually.   A person holding a commercial
pilots license (which is what is required to fly for compensation) must have
a 2nd class certificate which requires examinations annually.  An airline
transport pilot  rating (which is required for regularly scheduled flights in
particular aircraft) requires an exam every six months (and this is refered 
to as a 1st class certificate (duh)).

Since Maggie is flying for a living, she certainly has a 2nd class certificate 
and very possibly has a 1st class one.  

>and Joel would have to be an FAA certified doctor
>to give the exam.  But maybe he is... 

Yeah, I kinda doubt it, too.  I can't imagine that there would be that much
call for Joel to be an AME (airmans medial examiner) in Cicely.

 >It's a rigorous physical
>exam that's changed a lot in just the past couple of years-- in other
>words, the FAA is cracking down.

I had my 3rd class medical exam last Feburary and I certainly wouldn't
say it was all that rigorous.  This was my third one (six years) and it 
pretty much the same as ever.  If the FAA is cracking down, my AME
is ignoring it.

>Gordon (hubby) just had one last year-- he was amazed that the doctor
>mumbled something at him, and it actually turned out to be part of the
>exam-- a hearing test.  He said it was totally different from previous
>FAA exams, which tended to check for heartbeat and breathing.

Yup, all par for the course.  About the only other thing they did was
take my weight, compare it to my previous exams and tell me to shed
some pounds 8-(.

Frank Stutzman          
SynOptics Communcations    |    Eagles soar, but weasels never
Santa Clara, Ca            |    get sucked into jet engines.
franks@synoptics.com       |              -- Elf Sternberg
Cessna N7770T @ PAO
From: pga0625@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Paul G. Ackerman, III)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: N-EXP knocked on 90210
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:28:08 GMT
Reply-To: pga0625@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology


         It's funny to hear that NX was mentioned in 90210, because it also
    was mentioned in Melrose Place.  (I didn't watch it, a friend told me
    about it, yeah, that's the ticket  :)  When the rebellous male
    character was talking with the woman who lives with the guy about their
    past he mentioned that he lived in Alaska doing odd jobs and such (I
    think he even mentioned working on the pipeline).  He said something to
    the effect that Alaska is very different than what is portrayed on NX. 
    It sounded very much like a slam to me.  (But then again I am terribly
    biased towards NX, and terribly biased against the bubble-gum shows Fox
    has on.)

         Any reason why Aaron and his chums have to mention NX?  (other
    than jealously)
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From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: The opener
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:01:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.080813@zohar.gsfc.nasa.gov>, z8tah@zohar.gsfc.nasa.gov (Theresa A. Held) writes:
> 
> > Joel should get an award next year for the single greatest line he's
> > had to date:  Maggie.  I'm gonna unzip your pants and pull them down.
> > Now don't go getting yourself all excited.
> 
> Interesting but I thought he said ..." I'll try not to get excited." 
> 
> What did other people hear?

I thought I heard "I'll try not to get excited." but, from the history
of these two, "Try not to get excited." would be more in character.
Joel is always acussing her of wanting him and saying he does not want
her.
I guess we wait for the re-runs.

Larry Billings
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From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: Janine Turner in Chevy Commerical
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 03:06:18 GMT


I saw the Janine Turner Chevy ad this past Saturday (10/3) night.
It's one of those car commercials where the car isn't even shown.
ort of like those weird Nissan ads a few years ago.

Simon

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