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From: kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge)
Subject: Re: MICH: 60 something HOUSTON:7
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 13:52:04 GMT

In article <Bv94yA.E6u@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson) writes:
|> chyang@engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:
|> 
|> Something similar happened at Illinois last year, and look what happened in
|> the dome this year.  Does Mich. paly Houston next year?  I hope so.  I hope
|> the Illinois trend repeats itself with Mich.

I wouldn't bet on it.  

|> Todd
|> 
|> P.S. I'm not a Houston fan, I just dislike the little(big) 10->100.  I guess
|>      we'll have to wait until next year on this one.

I'm sure Jenkins will enjoy having a whole year to wait on playing Michigan
again.

-- 

Kevin H. Klinge
Bell Communications Research
kevink@soac.bellcore.com

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From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: LSU QBs?
Keywords: tiguzz
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:11:28 GMT
Organization: Chevron

JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>What's the deal with the LSU quarterbacks?  It seems as though Hallman
>puts a new one in every week.  You'd think he'd give a player at
>least a couple of games to settle in to the spot.
>
>This has got to be putting on a strain on the O-line as well, with
>a new snap count and cadence each week.
>
>What's the word out of Baton Rouge?
>
>Jim Thomas

Well, I'm not in B.R., but I have a thought er two:

LSU's QBs are:	Loup, Daigle -- juniors. 
		Ryan Huffman -- redshirt frosh.
		Jamie Howard -- true frosh.

Game		Starter		My thoughts
---------	----------      -------------------------------------------
Texas A&M	Loup		Loup reeked.  Huffman, Daigle looked good.
MSU		Loup(I think)	Loup reeked.  Daigle most impressive.
Awbunn		Daigle		Daigle sputtered, Huffman REALLY REEKED,
				Jamie Howard looked very, very good.
Col St		Howard		Huffman/Howard alternated.  Huffman
				continued to REALLY REEK (0 for 6 w/2 ints),
				Howard played decently. (Our DEE was pathetic)
Tenn		Howard		I don't really know what happened (went
				to the Simonton,TX rodeo after the first 
				half -- YEEHAW!)

I don't know why Curley even started Loup the first two games.  Everyone
(INCLUDING my Mom, who thinks Joe Montana is the best goalie to ever
play professional hockey) knew there was more talent on the bench.

He had to start Daigle against Awbunn based on his big second half
versus the Dawgs, but Daigle is as inconsistent as Loup.

I still say Howard is the man, and Huffman has potential to pan out.

You must realize the Tiguzz are very, very young (though a loss to CSU
is miserable in any circumstances).  Like the ESPN announcers mentioned
during pre-game Saturday, at any one point in the game, LSU could have a
QB, two RBs, and two WRs in the game and they could all be freshmen --
and likely be TRUE freshmen at that!  Freshmen at skill positions can be
exciting and also heart-wrenching (the latter more applicable).

Curley should chalk this year up to experience for the loads of talented
underclassmen and just hope Joe Dean hasn't contracted another East
Coast hiring firm.....   


(we'll be bock)
-- 
**************************************************************************
GEAUX TIGERS!!!!!!!!	| Andy: "Howdy boys........."
GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!!!    | Andy: "...Yer boys are mighty talkative today."
James Clyde  LSU '91    | Briscoe: "Yeh,...they's all keyed up."
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Subject: Re: Bowl alliance a crock!
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 21:12:48 EDT
Organization: Penn State University

Yeah, Penn State will get burned by Notre Dame.  I don't think so - not after
the Stanford drubbing.  We might not beat Miami, but I predict we'll give
them a good run for their money.  Don't underestimate the Nittany Lions!!!!!
Prediction for monday's opening line
 Favorite              Points             Underdog
 PENN STATE             1 1/2             Miami
                                               --Home Team In Caps
  HURRICANES LUCK MAY JUST ABOUT BE RUNNING OUT - FAYAK WILL SHOW YOU HOW TO
MAKE A LAST SECOND FIELD GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!              ---The Lion!
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From: wilbanks@spot.Colorado.EDU (Wendell Gee)
Subject: Could there be 3 nat'l champs?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:01:50 GMT

I was wondering earlier - 
Colorado goes 11-0, with a Orange Bowl bid,
A&M goes 11-0, with a Cotton Bowl bid,
Washington goes 11-0, with a Rose Bowl bid,
Tennessee goes 11-0, with a Sugar Bowl bid.

Does anyone see a lil problem?
Weirder things have been known to happen, but I can't see Tennessee, A&M, 
or Washington losing this year. Colorado has an excellent chance at 11-0,
as does Florida State, Virginia, and Penn State.
So, out of those 7, 5 would have to play where they have to play. the other 
two may or may not get to move. 
Things wouldn't be that bad if Miami was 11-0, 'cause then they'd get home 
field advantage and flatten Colorado with 200 yards of taunting penalties.
But wouldn't a season like this (all in theory - really, I can see only the 
four above as close to locks on undefeated seasons) really call for a 
playoff system??

Just another man's opinion,
-- 
Dylan Wilbanks, Classics major, AND NOW Environmental Conservation!
Hobbes:"Why do we always play war and not peace?"|Currently at:
Calvin:"Too few role models."                    |Box 1143
Ren-n-Stimpy in '92! Vote for a real cartoon!    |Boulder, CO 80306
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From: serdar@fawlty8.eng.monash.edu.au (Serdar Boztas)
Subject: Re: Washington 17, USC 10
Keywords: Trojans, Huskies
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 22:05:34 GMT

yeonwook@hardy.u.washington.edu (Mark Choi) writes:

>Well...the game's over, Washington won 17 to 10. USC fought hard and
>should definitely move up in the poll standings. Washington's defense was
>excellent, but the offense was horrible. Washington was unable to do 
>ANYTHING with their offense. All of Washington's points came from defensive
>related plays (turnovers, etc.). I credit the poor performance of 
>Washington's defense to the defense of USC. In any case, Washington still
>came away with a win. 

It sounds like 'SC played very well, especially in defense.  Not a bad
start to the season, considering all the pressure on the team
following a dismal 3-8 season: A win at Oklahoma, a close loss at the
#1 team, and a tie with a good San Diego St team...

As for Washington, it looks like they may stumble before January...

The Pac 10 is, as usual, very tough... Ask the fighting frenchmen...

>-- 
>    .  .      +---------------------------------+
>  --|--|      | Mark Yeon Wook Choi             |
>   /.\ |      | yeonwook@hardy.u.washington.edu |
>  --|--|      +---------------------------------+  

Geaux Treauxjans!

serdar
-- 
Inhabited by absurd fears,  they only discuss  the puerilities with which 
every fool is familiar, and dare not, by turning a bold hand to the human 
heart, offer its gigantic idiosyncrasies to our views.     Sade, 'Justine'
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From: reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu (Alireza Vali)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Pac Ten Tie breakers?
Date: 27 Sep 92 16:49:02 GMT
Organization: Center for Space Research Imaging Lab, University of Texas at Austin

In article <5467@news.duke.edu> ds4@teer14.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS) writes:
>
>	Since U.W. dodged UCLA (it can't be because there schedule is too tough)
>and both wins all their Pac Ten games, which one gets to hide in the Rose
>Bowl?  

What do you mean by "dodging" UCLA?  Did UW get to pick their PAC 10 schedule?
Highly unlikely.  

>	Now if the above does happen, I think U.W. should come out of hiding
>and play the Hurricanes.

I don't think they were hiding last year.  They were bound to play in the
Rose Bowl.  If anyone was doing any hiding last year....  Nope, I'm not
going to open that can of worms...
-- 
Ali R. Vali
Center For Space Research
reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu
Have keyboard, will travel.
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From: joconnor@evax10.eng.fsu.edu (JAMES P O)
Subject: wuck fashington!!!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Reply-To: joconnor@evax10.eng.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Distribution:  usa
Date: 29 SEP 92 12:04:07    

God I am so tired of reading the pac-10 fans wooofin' on east coast 
teams and how great washoutton is. I hope they take the challange of 
going to the fiesta bowl with us (FSU or MIAMI) and show  the usa what 
brand of football UW plays: powderpuf (against pac-10) or hardhitting
"espn in your face" where even the injured play (i.e. 
armstead,torretta <UM  baker, m. jones <FSU)

If ya cant handle the heat, get outta the kitchen!!!
                      ^^^^   
                         (or florida humidity)


--->->->--------------G-O------N-O-L-E-S---------------------------------->
James O'Connor                          FSU-vs-MIAMI
JOCONNOR@evax.eng.fsu.edu               Oct 3,1992   12:00pm
"  ... I don't need this shit!"         Orange Bowl, Miami
              -kinison
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From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: njan
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 03:05:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.011819.21498@news.duc.auburn.edu> steinse@eng.auburn.edu writes:
>As an alum of U. Colorado, Boulder, I say, without hesitation,
>
>	"K.S. Manu is a dork."

Like I care!!! Get a life, asshole...

Seems like you had a troubled childhood... Maybe you should visit your 
psychiatrist more often...

>Scott Steinbrink

Njan
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From: ellingrw@infonode.ingr.com (Bob Ellington)
Subject: Re: 1-AA the true no 1 team
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:52:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.185158.2350@cbnewse.cb.att.com> jimf@cbnewse.cb.att.com (james.r.fehrenbacher) writes:
>Too bad Troy St of Alabama isn't elgible. They may be the best team in 1-AA
>this year. I believe they won a Division II National Championship a few
>years back.

Could be.  But I am looking forward to next year when Jacksonville St.
joins the I-AA ranks and this great rivalry gets renewed.  At least
I hope it gets renewed.

JSU last year as Div II, ranked #2 (tie), could they go out with
the title?  That would be 3 trips to the title in 4(?) years, and
maybe this time it won't snow in Florence. 

Bob E.
From: wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Scripps Howard Heisman poll
Date: 28 Sep 1992 18:43:10 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Sep28.111125.6259@newstand.syr.edu> mwhanley@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Hanley) writes:
>In article <1992Sep25.200856.1547@u.washington.edu> tannerg@milton.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:
>>>
>>>Here's the latest (9/23) Scripps Howard Heisman poll, a national poll
>>>of Heisman voters.  I got it from our local paper here in Tallahassee:
>>>
>>>Marshall Faulk, San Diego State   45 points
>>>Glyn Milburn, Stanford            17

Who's Glyn Milburn?   :-)

Russell White got loads more yardage than either of them this week.

--William F. Tell
UC Berkeley
GO BEARS!   #27 in the AP poll.  
Returning to a top 25 near you.
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From: acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Subject: Re:      r.s.f.c 5th Newsgroup Poll
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  2 Oct 1992 19:02 EST  

In article   <92275.192044C31801AG@wuvmd.wustl.edu>,         Bapi Gupta <C31801AG@WUVMD> writes...
> 
>Here is this week's newsgroup poll.
>|--------------------------+----------+-------+-------------------------------|
>|                          |          | Point |           1 11111 11112 22222 |
>| Rank College             |  W  L  T | Total | 12345 67890 12345 67890 12345 |
>|--------------------------+----------+-------+-------------------------------|
>|  47. Southern Methodist  |  3  1  0 |    13 | ..... ..... ..... .1... .1... |

At least they made the ranks of "others receiving votes" here.  If it 
weren't for the .net, there just wouldn't be any justice anywhere.

R Dendy
From: murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami, Florida
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:03:54 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA


>>Miami found a way to win, while playing poorly.  Just like all great teams
>>do that don't panic and play for a tie.
>>
>>jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett)

>Miami's Lamar Thomas walked over to the 
>Arizona kicker and just stared into his eyes and told him your not going to
>beat us, during the last time-out before the kick.
>
>jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett)

Now, _that's_ the hallmark of a great football team.  If you can't play
ball better than the other team, play staredown instead.

And the word is "you're", not "your", Jason.  I may not be going for a PhD
in English, but it's still irritating.

ok
dpm
-- 
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              When every one is dead the Great Game is finished.  Not before.
                              --- Hurree Babu, "Kim"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett)
Subject: Re: football in Florida
Reply-To: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett)
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 04:15:48 GMT

News-Software: NN 6.4.16

In <1992Oct2.150459.23490@cs.wm.edu> djryan@ct.cs.wm.edu (David J. Ryan) writes:

| Well, it still looks like Florida is another level below FSU and
| Miami. The Gator-faithful have been beating their chests for a 
| couple of years now, but I can't remember FSU or Miami losing
| back-to-back games in that fashion (at least not in the last 6
| years or so). In fact, FSU and Miami only lose like that to each
| other. I still say that FSU and Miami are the cream of the crop,
| the Arizona game notwithstanding.

Gator fans were in a rare mood beating their chests this week after the
Miami & Arizona game.   One gator even said Miami would be at the Peach Bowl,
this year after the Arizona game.  If Miami does go to the Peach Bowl,  we
should hope the Gators that are home alone in bowl season come to see the 
Canes in action.

It's Great to be a Gator.... NOT.  Choke..

| Look for another Miami-FSU thriller as the two top teams of the
| last 5 (now 6) years go head to head in (yet another) top 5
| showdown. Noles by a last-second field goal, I say.

After last week at the OB,  I had all the thriller that I want to see.  
No more last-second field goals.     It's less than 12 hours to the
game, and all I can't hear  tonight at the local bars is that Seminole's
WAR CHANT.

 FSU WAR Chants "uuuuuu-uuuuuu-uuuuuuu-aaaa"
 translation    "shit!!-Miami-scored-again!"
From: gt2807a@prism.gatech.EDU (Benjamin H. Cowan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ACC This Week: Predictions and Such
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:56:54 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Oct5.171429.2898@ncsu.edu> currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN) writes:
>
>In article <BvJ3Mt.2Fz@rice.edu>, rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera) writes:
>|>In article <1992Oct2.204532.28867@ncsu.edu> jvbutera@grad09.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera) writes:
>|>
>|>>As far as Clemson, it's a question of who's more powerful, IPTAY or 
>|>>the Clemson Administration.  IPTAY'ed replace any non 8-3 or better 
>|>>coach in a heartbeat, whereas I think the administration wants Hatfield
>|>
>|>And all of us ACCers know what IPTAY "really " stands for :)
>|>
>|>(I dare the uninformed to take a guess ...)
>|
>   I know! I know!. But I ain't saying nuthin. The worst flame war I've in 
>   (on this group) was from that very acronym.
>    RC

  Ok... I'll say it...

  "It's probation time again, Y'all!"

Later,
Ben...


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Benjamin H. Cowan                       || Reply to: gt2807a@prism.gatech.edu
Georgia Tech... Atlanta, Georgia  30332 || 
================================================================================

(Pointing to a group of Climpsun fans)...
   "Look!  Rednecks *do* turn orange in the fall!"
                                        -- George P. Burdell
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kschudt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Karl C Schudt)
Subject: Re: Bobby.Bowden.sucks.sucks.sucks
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:44:44 GMT


WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! We havent won a national championship.
We are only one of the top five teams in the country, we wanna be #1
Fire coach Bowden!!!!!!!!!


(The above is the mindset of a Florida State fan).

Let me explain something about national championships...
They are *RARE*!!!!!!

You need a great team, plenty of luck, an advantageous schedule, no
key injuries. It is not likely that these elements will ever come together.
Thus it is amazing that teams like Oklahoma, Miami, Notre Dame have as many
championships as they have. They may make it look easy, but it most certainly
is not!

     This "bowden.sucks.sucks.sucks" crap is silly! He has raised the
Florida State program to national prominence and title contention. To
throw him out because he hasnt won the MNC is ridiculous! You could
be 0-11, you know.

     Ara Parseghian won a title in '66, in his third year of coaching. He then
went six years where it seemed like USC spoiled ND's season every year. (Much
like Miami screwing FSU.) But rather than fire the guy for too many 8-3 9-2
seasons, they stuck with him, and lo and behold, 1973! Another championship.

Trust me, you are better off with Bowden than without him. Who else would
you rather have?

Karl
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From: baze@carson.u.washington.edu (Behzad Khamneian)
Subject: Re: Arizona beats UCLA
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:22:18 GMT

In article <1anmm8INNgmk@agate.berkeley.edu> wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell) writes:
>Arizona defeated UCLA in Tucscon, 23-3.  
>I guess the Huskies don't have to worry about an undefeated UCLA getting
>the trip to Pasadena.  And I think we can probably put to rest the
>notion of a Penn State-Washington Blockbuster Bowl for the MNC.
>
>The only teams which really threaten the Huskies chances are Stanford
>and Cal, and Washington plays both of those teams at home.

  IMHO every team threatens the Huskies this year if the offense and Billy Joe
Hobert don't get their sh*t together and play some ball.  Arizona, Washington
State, Cal, and Stanford all look scary.  I am also affraid of Oregon State's
running game, but I think that UW can only improve its running defense.  
I for one, don't care much for the MNC any more.  The Huskies are definitely
not as tough and good as last year.  I would like very much for them to go
undefeated, but just like last year, I don't care if they win, share, or lose
the national championship.  Our defense still looks very good.  I just wanna
go to California and watch my team play  :)

Hats off to U$C for playing a hellova football game.  Their defense is one of
the best that the Huskies have faced in a looong time.

This all coming from a long time diehard Husky fan.  :)

>William F. Tell
>UC Berkeley
>

May the best team win,

-Behzad
From: ds4@teer10.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami, Florida
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:12:30 GMT


 
In <BvAt3p.Joz@encore.com>, jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett) sez:
|> 
|> >but it all comes down to " Just Win Baby".   Miami may not beat FSU, but
|>                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> >after winning 21 games in a row ( current longest ), and 47 consecutive
|> >wins at home ( breaking ND's record of 39) it's been a hell of a good ride.

I remember the last time FSU was expect to win at Miami.  It was the first game
for both teams of the season, and FSU was the preseason #1.  Everyone was sure
the Canes were going to lose.  All I can say about that game and the one coming
up this weekend is.......31 - 0 :)

-ds4
From: poore@ds13.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: wuck fashington!!!
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:06:19 GMT
Reply-To: poore@ds13.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Florida State University

In article <BvFKM2.Lp6@ais.org> ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.005606.10267@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu
> (Kevin Delgado) writes:
>Are you feeling insecure because Charlie Ward can't tell the difference
>between a receiver and a safety?  I thought this thread was about 

Ward has thrown 9 INTs on the season, but he has also thrown for over
1000 yards already, and is on a pace to break many FSU single season QB
records. (Including the INT record!) His performace has improved
steadily over the season, and the offense has produced well in the past
two games. The young offensive line is starting to come together, as is
Ward's grasp of the One-back set, which FSU started running this year.
All things considered, he's shown steady improvement from week to week.
I was under the impression that Grbac cannot say the same. Anyone from
UM care to post some stats? (Bill M-S is excluded due to his admirable
defense of FSUs schedule)

>Washington.  Don't they teach geography at FSU? 

hyuck hyuck, durn if I know, goober. Oh, waitaminute, that's in Texas.
Hell if I know.

>I guess beating us meant a great deal to you.  

Yes, it did mean a great deal to most FSU fans. Many of us who are old
enough to remember the 'good old days' recall 0-11 seasons, and getting
regularly pasted by lumbering behemoths like Michigan. This general
inferiority complex has not been eliminated by a mere decade of success
(in many fans). This, coupled with the near victory in A2 in '86(?), and
the exciting nature of that game, made it quite satisfying. Reasonable?

David Poore
poore@ds13.scri.fsu.edu
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From: baze@carson.u.washington.edu (Behzad Khamneian)
Subject: Re: Rusty Medearis
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 06:18:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.002241.27457@ncsu.edu> Sanjeev Banerjia writes:
>
>With all of the hemming an' hawing goin' on about FSU vs Miami, I'm surprised
>no one's yet mentioned Rusty Medearis.  I read in the morning paper that he
>damaged cartilage (I think) in his knee, is out for the year, maybe
>permanently.  This is a devatating impact to the 'Canes, losing one of their
>top defensive players.

 It is a shame to see a player like Rusty Medearis go out!!  He was probably
 the 1992 version of Steve Emtman.  Hopefully he is not out forever!!

>Surprised all of you rabid Floridians (and others) have yet to comment on how
>this will affect the game...

 Hoping the best for Rusty Medearis.

>Sanjeev

-Baze


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