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From: rjk@DINO.QCI.BIOCH.BCM.TMC.EDU (Raymond K)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Dallas *ices* the 49'ers (or not?)
Date: 27 Aug 1992 17:18:58 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Howard Hughes Medical Institute

In article <1992Aug27.154559.22300@aero.org> mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw) writes:
>THE TRADE:  Charles Haley of the 49'ers to Dallas for a #2 pick and a
>conditional pick.  The #2 pick next year is guaranteed, and the 49'ers
>have the option of swapping #1 and #3 picks in 1993.  If they do not
>exercise this option, they will receive the Cowboy's #3 selection in
>1994.  No first found pick is involved outright (the 49'ers will not
>get a #1 without giving up a #1).

Nice summary, ice.  Hope this clarifies it for everyone.
Note: Haley's play is not part of the conditions.

>          Wants to be a Cowboy.

A big part of it.  I don't think JJ wants any malcontents.

This is the third straight summer JJ has made a trade for a need
late in the preseason.  In 1990 he picked up Alonzo Highsmith and
in 1991 got Tony Casillas.  Both were disgruntled with their previous
teams.  Highsmith never panned out because of injuries.  Even if Haley
doesn't return to his 1990 form, I'm sure the Cowboys would be happy if
he did for them what Casillas has done and help strengthen the defense.
I think the biggest thing Haley brings to the Dallas D is a little bit
of wreckless abandon, something they need.  Having him flying into the
backfield will create the opportunity for turnovers.  I have a feeling
the Cowboys' secondary will look a wee bit better now, too.

>OTHER NOTES:  Dallas traded Gary Lewis to Tampa for an undisclosed
>draft pick to make room for Haley.  

No surprise here.  Lewis was good insurance for the secondary, but
because of the draftees, he was expendable.

>                           What does this mean for a team already deep
>at DL?  I doubt that they will keep 9 DL AND 6 LB, so one of the
>following is probably gone:
>Hennings, Hill, Noonan, Lett or Edwards.  Either that or one of the DB's
>(much less likely).  Of those, Noonan can still be traded (my personal
>pick), as can Hennings (not for a whole lot though).  Dropping Hill is
>also a strong possibility, although I would hate to see it.

I don't see them getting rid of Noonan, now, even though I had predicted
it a while back.  As much as I hate to see a young guy go, I think Hill,
Hennings, Lett, or Kevin Harris might be history.  Or, they could come up
with a pulled muscle Friday night and spend some time on IR??


Ray     GO COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: rege@bongo.Berkeley.EDU (Ashutosh G. Rege)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cunningham hurt??
Date: 25 Aug 1992 22:54:19 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
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In article <1992Aug25.120421.3375@hellgate.utah.edu> twolf@cs.utah.edu (Tom Wolf) writes:
>
>Did anyone else see McMahon during the warmup sitting on the field and
>eating pizza? Even though the game was inside he had to wear sunglasses as
>he warmed up and watched the game. The announcers were a little on the
>scarcastic side about his antics. Still, they admitted the guy could play
>football.
>
>Tom Wolf

   Maybe it is not well known, but Jim McMahon has an eye problem which 
   makes them very sensitive to light. He plays football with a shaded visor 
   on his helmet to minimize the effect of light. I wonder how much of
   his negative image is simply due to this erroneous perception. 

   Ashu Rege

   P.S. IMHO, the Eagles are a better team with a healthy McMahon
   at the helm than with a healthy Cunningham. In fact it's almost
   like Bono vs. Young. Just my 2 centimes worth.

Xref: sparky rec.sport.football.pro:14294 rec.sport.football.college:10922
From: pokey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Vince Rhee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro,rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Heisman Trophy winners with related info
Keywords: heisman, award, Howard, Detmer, Ware, Sanders
Date: 24 Aug 92 02:47:50 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.pro
Distribution: na
Organization: 1992-Beat-The-Hell-Outta-Everyone Aggies of Texas A&M

Our own kettler@mitme5.mit.edu (KETTLER, THOMAS R.) states :
>In article <1992Aug20.210148.29898@a.cs.okstate.edu>, cooperr@a.cs.okstate.edu (COOPER ROBERT BRY writes...
>>1983 Mike Rozier      Nebraska HB Hou, Atl
>Rozier also played in the CFL.

	He did [play in the CFL]??? For what team? I know he played
	in the USFL (Pittsburgh Maulers?), but in Canada...?

>>1980 George Rogers    S Carol  HB Wash                   B
>Rogers started with the Saints.

	I believe he last played for the Redskins.

>>1977 Earl Campbell    Texas    HB
>Campbell played for the Oilers.

	The Tyler Rose finished his career with the Saints.


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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: Browns News - Aug 28th
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:31:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.092931.8807@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> mocnik@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com writes:
>Browns News - August 28th
>--------------------------
>
>2. The Browns signed 2 players:
>
>   - Wayne Haddix, CB, who was released by the Bengals. He previously had 
>     played under Belichick in New York.

What's going on with Wayne?  He was here in Tampa two seasons ago and went
to the Pro Bowl.   We were shocked when  the Richard Williamson (not to be
confused with the Sam Wyche)  Buccaneer organization cut him.  But, now we
see him back on the wire from the Bengals organization. What is this guy's
problem?
>
>3. Tonight the Browns play at Tampa versus the Bucaneers. It will be interesting
>   to see how this team reacts after Monday Night. Most of the regulars are
>   scheduled to play the 1st half.

The Buccaneers will start tonight's game with the same line-up that should
line up next week against the Cardinals. Only one rookie will start in the
game.  Rookie Defensive Tackle Mark Wheeler from Texas A&M.   He has given
us, possibly, the best quote of the preseason: "Playing nose guard is like
being in a room,  and all the lights are turned out, and people are throw-
ing bottles at your head from every which way."   "I really don't know why
I like it."
>

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From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Joe (Toast?) Montana
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:48:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: vms.0095FB87.0E59A340
Reply-To: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services

In article <1992Aug27.141336.21206@ods.com>, scott@ods.com (Scott Harper) writes:
>Doyle Donehoo (donehoo@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com) wrote:
>: Remember those of you who said Joe was Toast? That Joe was 
>: washed up? That he was outta here??
>: 
>: Well, toast is served. Eat your words.
>: 
>: Joe Montana was throwing in practice today, and will start this Friday.
>
>That's funny, the newspaper report *I* read said Montana "might even
>play a couple of downs" in the Seattle (pre-season) game, but that
>Seifert had named Young the starter for the regular-season opener
>against the Giants.  It also goes on to say "In essence, Seifert said,
>the job was Young's to lose.  He added Steve Bono would be the first
>off the bench should something happen to Young, leaving Montana as the
>third quarterback, at least for the time being."

I think Seiffert would do well to have Steve Young as the
starting QB for the first month so that Joe will have a lot
of time to rest/recuperate/recover and also Young will
be more settled. If at the end of September Joe is ready
to "be smokin" then he can play the rest of the way 
upto the play-offs. I dont know the schedule of the niners
so I can't comment on the oppsition against which Young will
be playing in the first few games.
bye.

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From: evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Doug Evans - CIT Network Operations)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Bills cuts (they finally did it!)
Date: 26 Aug 92 05:17:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hallelujah! The Football Gods finally answered my prayers!

The Bills cut Hal Garner today!

Now I know that I sound a bit vicious, but I'm sorry, the guy is a stiff
and always has been.  He's made a few great plays on special teams, but
I don't think that fact alone was ever a good reason to keep him on 
the depth chart.

I was pulling my hair out all last season knowing that there was a 
potential Derrick Thomas-like linebacker on the squad, (namely Mark 
Maddox) while Hal Garner was seeing spot duty as an OLB and totally
screwing it up.

I think many teams knew of his total inability to string out an outside
run, and his ridiculous lack of quickness. Every time the Bills would
put him in, the opponent would promptly run around him. (Ref: SB XXVI)

He started the K.C. game in place of Biscuit, and he was shmeared all
over the Arrowhead Astroturf as Harvey Williams zoomed past him -
play after damn play! What a stiff!

Why oh goddamn why are the Bills coaches so slow to react! He should
have been cut a year ago. Let's just hope that they now recognize that
Mark Maddox could develop into a real NFL terror. 

I've met both of these guys, and I'll tell you one thing. Mark Maddox
is a very intelligent guy, unlike Hal.  He has speed and quickness
far beyond anything Garner could hope for, and an IQ to boot.

Anyways...

The other notable cuts were DL Frank Kmet and K Jim Crouch. Frank just
didn't have it but I didn't expect them to release Crouch so soon.
You have to feel a bit queasy about Steve Christie's performance so
far, but I guess he'll work it out.

BTW, for those of you who may not know it, Steve Christie is basically
a home boy. He grew up in Oakville Ontario and actually attended the 
AFC title game against the Raiders 2 years ago with some season ticket
holder friends of his.

I asked him about what he felt about being a Bill versus a Buccaneer
and he was almost giddy. He's a bit *too* excited about playing for
his hometown team. I think he just needs to get used to it, then 
build his confidence and win some games for us.

In case you're wondering, the rest of the Bills cuts were people
that had no chance of making the team anyways.


Doug

                                    |                              Doug Evans
                                    | State University of New York at Buffalo
                                    |             evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
From: rjk@DINO.QCI.BIOCH.BCM.TMC.EDU (Raymond K)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Address request
Date: 26 Aug 1992 12:37:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Howard Hughes Medical Institute

In article <1992Aug25.172341.1468@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:
>rjk@DINO.QCI.BIOCH.BCM.TMC.EDU (Raymond K) writes:
>>[...] you don't know your butt from a beachball, but are ready
>>to tell everybody else what they should and shouldn't be doing.
>
>Well, Ray, at least it looks like your kids won't be surprised when
>they hear foul language in the "real" world.

And you've shown me a good example of the kind of people I
should protect my kids from.


Ray
From: gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: poll
Keywords: poll
Date: 4 Sep 92 06:28:58 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


Although I'm not a Giants fan, I know some people who are, and EVERYBODY, GiGiants
fans, anti-Giants, and everybody in-between that I've talked to has expressed
more or less the same opinion.  That being the Handley is the ONLY person alive
on this planet who would have started Hostetler instead of Simms last season.
I don't mean to assume that everybody feels this way, they don't.  It just
seems to be an overwhelming majority, that's all.  Yes, Hostetler did a good
job in the SB, but Simms was the guy who got them there.  Anyway, I don't mean
to start a big argument here, I'm just curious as to what Giants fans, or really
anybody feels about the decision that was made?
~.s
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From: johndoe@squid.inmet (johndoe)
Subject: Re: Miami/New England Game was (Re: <None>)
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.
	<1992Aug30.024638.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu>
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:18:06 GMT

i agree that the re-scheduling of the opener to the open date rather than
swapping games is very much in new england's favor from a pure football
standpoint.

new england is still a young team, and having an extra week to work out at
the beginning of the season will be more of a benefit to them than it will
be to a veteran team like miami.

i also think miami will miss the week off in the middle of the season more
than new england will.

from a schedule standpoint, miami would have certainly loved to have their
last 3 games at home, and new england would have hated to have had their
last 3 games on the road.  as it is, new england will now have 3 straight
road games where they would have been road game, bye, road game, but if they
have any shot at a playoff game whatsoever (and it may only take 7 or 8 wins
for an afc playoff spot), then having that last game at home will certainly
be a plus.

(and being a new england fan some of the time, i guess i'm entitled to make
stupid statements like, 'new england may be in the playoff race come the
last week of the season.')

-johndoe
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From: bradletm@ntmtv.UUCP (Tim Bradley)
Subject: Michael Irvin signs...
Originator: bradletm@rastaban
Organization: Northern Telecom Incorporated
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 00:07:38 GMT

his name with his right hand...


	I wonder how many FFL owners are pissed off at me right now?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From:  ()
Subject: Re: Oilers
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: Rice University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:12:26 GMT

In article <16856D93F.UC516349@mizzou1.missouri.edu>,
UC516349@mizzou1.missouri.edu (The Pseudo Edge) wrote:
> 
> 
>   Can someone tell me the status of Damon Mays, WR?  I'd like to know if
> he was cut or if he made the team.
> Thanx,
>  
> Wayne

	After the 47-man roster cuts, the Oiler's receivers are Haywood Jeffires,
Ernest Givins, Leonard Harris, Curtic Duncan, Pat Coleman, Gary Wellman,
and Corey Harris.
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From: schalene@sequent.com (Schalene Dagutis)
Subject: Re: Mat Millen
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 16:30:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.152415.20868@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
>In article <1992Sep4.061145.1124@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> asagar@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ashish Sagar) writes:
>>	>Washington Redskins News of September 2, 1992
>>
>>	 >Changes in Redskins' Roster Since Super Bowl XXVI
>>
>>OUT:
>>---
>>>LB Matt Millen:  
>>
>>Is he the player picked up from the 49ers last year.  Was rated to be
>>a good player and played well for the niners.  I may be mistaken, but it 
>>used to be said that he was the heart of the Niners team, always encouraging 
>>players, playing well & leading by example and always peping up everyone.  
>>Then where did he go wrong for the Redskins.
>>
>>(Just an inquiry.  Hope I dont have to again explain to
>>someone on which planet I was for the last 10 years.)
>>
>>
>It is called football business/management decisions. In reality,
>I guess they figured he was getting too old to just play on
>3rd downs and to pay him. Even at that, he was used sparingly last year.
>-- 
This is NOT true.  He retired.  He played sparingly toward the end of
the year because of the teams, the Redskins faced.  He was brought in
as a run-stop specialist and they ended up playing a lot of
run-and-shoot type teams in the playoffs.  He was never a third-down
specialist, except if it was third and short and a run was expected to
be called.

schalene
From: nate@ghidrah.Central.Sun.COM (Nate McConnell FE/SSE Grand Rapids, MI)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NFL Realignment
Date: 27 Aug 92 06:26:44 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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In article 27660@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au, kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lu) writes:
>Ronald D Rodabaugh (rrodabau@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
>:      Concerning realignment in the NFL, I have just one question: WHY?
>:      These teams play ONCE A WEEK, for 16 games. Does it really matter that 
>: Phoenix has to go east four times a year every year? Is it really going to be 
>: that much cheaper for the NFL to realign geographically? NO.
>
>Isn't that eight times? I though each team in each division played the
>other teams within the same division TWICE..
>

Of course, but one of the two games is at you home staduim and one is at you 
opponents.

nate



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From: richard@ods.com (Richard Thompson)
Subject: Re: Tampa Bay: status of Ron Hall??
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
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Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:47:19 GMT

Leo James (lej@pdn.paradyne.com) wrote:
: 
: Ron is scheduled to start against the Cardinals and is not being reported
: as being injured.

How big of a role is he going to play in Wyche's offense? Possibly
similar to Rodney Holman's role in Cincinatti would be my guess.

-- 
Richard Thompson
richard@ods.com 
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From: rajesh@unlv.edu (Rajesh Viswanathan)
Subject: Re: STEELERS (and other starting QBs)
Organization: UNLV
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 16:01:22 GMT

In article <gedVQwi00WDKI8Endz@andrew.cmu.edu> Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Since we've recently had an influx of returning students who haven't yet
>paid enough attention to find these things out, here's as complete a
>list of starters as I can come up with.
>
>Buf:	Kelly
>NYJ:	O'Brien
	Browning Nagle
>NE:	McMillan (is this right?)
	Millen
>Mia:	Marino
>Indy:	George (I seem to recall hearing he was hurt.....?!)
	Trudeau (George is injured)
>Pit:	O'Donnell (yes, it's official)
>Cle:	Bernie
>Cin:	Boomer
>Hou:	Moon (yes, he signed)
>Den:	Elway
>KC:	Kreig
>SD:	Gagliano (yes, it's official)
>Sea:	Stouffer (is it official, yet?)
>Raid:	Schroeder
>Skins:	Rypien
>NYG:	(can't remember his name---not Simms)
	(Hostetler) - no official word
>Phoe:	(can't remember his name)
	Rosenbach
>Dal:	Aikman
>Phil:	Cunningham
>Det:	Peete
>GB:	Majkowski
>Chi:	(can't think of his name)
	Harbaugh
>TB:	Testaverde
>Min:	Gannon
>SF:	Young
>NO:	Hebert
>Atl:	Miller (I think)
>Rams:	(can't remember his name either, but you know who he is)
	Everett
>
>
>--Vernon.


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From: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Subject: Re: FANTASY FOOTBALL LEAGUE: TWO SPACES LEFT!!
Originator: delarocq@c00091-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Keywords: Satellite
Reply-To: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:44:30 GMT


         
   ONLY 2 SPACES LEFT (ONE NW TEAM AND ONE SE TEAM!!!!!)
  
   HURRY!

   delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu


  PACIFIC WESTERN CONFERENCE (PWC)

   Northwest Division
   ------------------
7  Colorado Avalanche
12 JEFF JOHNSON-- NEEDS A TEAM NAME/MASCOT
14 STEVE-- NEEDS A TEAM NAME/MASCOT
15 OPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


   Southwest Division
   ------------------
2  Houston Hurricanes
9  Dallas Texans
10 Austin Argonauts
3  Los Angeles Rioters


  ATLANTIC EASTERN CONFERENCE (AEC)

   Northeast Division
   ------------------
11 Albany Shockwave
4  Pittsburgh Meanies
6  Columbus 
1  Chicago Skyscrapers

   Southeast Division
   ------------------
5  Orlando Otters
8  Virginia Vigilantes
13 JOHN BONHAM-- NEEDS TEAM NAME/MASCOT
16 OPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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From: kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lu)
Subject: Re: 6 days till disaster
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 10:40:41 GMT

Thomas Oligino (to0b+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
: 
: 
:    The NY Giants got whomped by the Steelers SAT 24-3. The defense gave
: up 425 yards and it seemed like alot more sitting in the stands. The
Ouch!

:     Six days from now the niners  check into the meadowlands and they
: will beat the Giants  by 40 if Handley and some of the veterens don't

Oh well, if history repeats it sell, hopefully this will be a close one
(last 2 or 3 games have been won by less than a TD. The last two (First
game of last season and NFC Camphionship game was won on the boot of Matt
Bahr. P.S He still kicking?)

: season untill last night but now I can't see how they can get thier act
: togther fast enough to make a run at the playoffs playing in the NFC
: EAST. 
: 
I think that we might be out of the playoffs again this year..


: Offense
:     - The team can move the ball but if the offense continues to put it
: on the ground and make stupid mistakes they have no chance.
: 
Is Simms the Backup QB? Or is he at starter where he should belong?


: Defense
:     - The Giants got pounded on the ground by a make shift offensive
: line and a few average running backs ; this was demoralizing. Handley
: should consider shooting a defensive line man at random as a
: motivational tool. If this team can't stop teams from running they are
: dead in the water. I suppose it's possible that the return of Banks and
: Eric Howard will make  difference but Im not holding my breath.
: 

Heres hoping!!!!

: 
: Tom Oligino
: Dept Biology                      GO Giants!- please......
: Carneige Mellon University
: 

My sentiments exactly!!

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