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From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: INTEL MODEMS
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:28:14 GMT

EP.MXG@forsythe.stanford.edu (Maurice Green) writes:
>Regarding the problems of Intel modems connecting with older 2400
>baud modems....I have a new Intel SatisFAXtion/400 and I had no
>success connecting to our campus host at 2400, but was fine at 9600
>baud (so why would I want 2400?). Intel tech support provided the
>answer...the 2400 baud modems were not "smart" modems, so all I had
>to do was issue the command string AT\N0\Q0\V0\J1 to shut down all
>of the error correction features, etc and the connection worked
>perfectly.
*----
This is not a problem unique to Intel.  Even my mnp-5 2400 baud
modems have to be reprogrammed not to use mnp to connect to 2400
and 1200 baud modems that don't have that feature.  The mnp 
negotiation confuses modems that aren't so equipped.
--
	Mike Berger
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: syny@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (R Craig Stevenson)
Subject: Fax Option for WorldBlazer & T3000
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:34:51 GMT

I spoke with the Telebit sales yesterday and got the following
information regard the FAX option upgrade for current T3000 and WB
owners:

Telebit will be running a $99 FAX upgrade promotion from December 1
through December 28th.  The price will go to $149 after that.  A
mailing will be sent to all registered T3000 and WB owners in the next
week.

The FAX will support Group 3 (9600 send/receive) and Class 2 standards.

SOFTWARE NOT INCLUDED.  There will be no software included in the $99
upgrade offer, however, discounts will be available for the following
FAX software packages (They did not know what the discount prices will be):

     DOS:  DOSFAX
     Windows:  WINFAX
     Macintosh:  Quickline
     Unix:  Faximum
     IBM OS/360:  BlueFax w/ CICS interface

Beyond that, the person at the customer service desk had really very
little information or expereince since this product is not yet in the
field.

As people get more information or have experience with this product,
please post it.  One thing I am particulary interested in, which the
Telebit sales person didn't know, is whether the modem will announce
CONNECT FAX vs. CONNECT <modem speeds> so I can determine the type of
incoming data call via software.

Cheers,
Craig Stevenson   <= my signature
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: barjun@leland.Stanford.EDU (ASHWIN BULCHANDANI)
Subject: Five Minute Beep Problems
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 08:11:47 GMT

Hi.

The phone I use to dial in with my USR has a five minute timer beep i.e. after
I am on the phone for five minutes, it beeps.  Consequently, my USR loses
the carrier and all is lost.  I know that some setting somewhere is supposed
to adjust this, but I have not had any luck.

All suggestions/pointers to literature _greatly_ appreciated.

Thanks,

Ashwin

please reply directly to barjun@leland.stanford.edu

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Distribution: jadpc2
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 08:30:00 -0800
From: Zero_One@p101.f701.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: ZyXEL retrain problem
Comment-To: Kwan-Ju_Chen@p101.f701.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Reply-To: Zero_One@p101.f701.n202.z1.fidonet.org
X-FSC-PATH: 202/701

 > Some how my ZyXEL doesn't adjust the connection speed once the
 > speed is
 > lowered.
 > I find this out from ATI2 command LinkStatus.  There are 4 retrain
 > requested but none of them are granted.  What's wrong?

Nothing.  When the modem Retrains, it is trying to keep the speed the
same.  The line condition on one end was good but on the other was
bad, so the one modem requested a drop in speed, the other modem tried
to keep the connection  at the same speed, and it failed.  It probably
went up in speed and the same process happened 3 more times.


Tyrone Horton
(Zero One)
Tech Support
ZyXEL USA

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Supra Heatsink Hack, stay cool!
From: t9114145@phillip.edu.au
Date: 16 Nov 92 09:20:03 EST
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)

It got to about 29 degrees here a couple of weeks ago, and the Supra was 
feeling VERY hot. It was still working fine, but I wasn't sure how much
longer it would be. Thus came the Supra Heatsink Hack.
 
All I did was get two large finned heatsinks, and sandwich the Supra between
them. They are larger than the modem's case, and provide some overlap. Between
the two heatsinks to keep the modem in place (on either side, not through the
middle) I put four bolts. On the bottom heatsink, in four other holes I put
four PCB spacers with rubber feet on the bottom (to keep the bottom heatsink
from scratching the desk).
 
Now the modem sits sandwiched between the two heatsinks. It never gets hot,
and has to be on a long time for me to feel any warmth. I could have used
that white silicon heat transfer compund but it works fine without. No
modifications to the modem are needed. The complete unit is a bit bigger,
but it's still out of the way on a big desk so that doesn't matter so much.

P.S. If someone ever offers you a PDP11 machine for free, take it - the
heatsinks and other hardware came from a PDP11-05. Other parts of the same
machine have also been very useful. You can get rid of the bits you don't want
by finding someone who REALLY wants a core memory board to display in his
office, and making him take it all.

-- 

Adam Eberbach    Computer Science student, RMIT.   t9114145@phillip.edu.au
               "We don' need no stinkin' signatures!"
From: hughesk@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Kirby W. Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: INTEL MODEMS
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:39:15 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <5845.48.uupcb@uttsbbs.uucp> john.navas@uttsbbs.uucp (John Navas) writes:
>
>The speed difference with ZMODEM-90 (DSZ/DOS) and ZMODEM (Procomm Plus
>for Windows) is around 50cps on ZIP(tm) file transfers at 14400bps.
>My system is a 486DX-25.  This is based on carefully controlled and
>repeated tests with remote systems with high-quality modems (Hayes and
>others) known to be configured properly.
>

This could be one of those gre questions:
   Based on the above info, which is faster?
a) zmodem-90 (DSZ/DOS)
b) zmodem (procomm plus for windows)
c) the speeds are equal
d) cannot determine from the information given

>Best regards,
>John
>      

-Kirby Hughes
From: geoff@zswamp.UUCP (Geoffrey Welsh)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Motorola Codex 326x should be reference for all others 
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 15:55:45 EST
Organization: Izot's Swamp

gtoal@cursci.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal) writes:

> I think the majority of us don't give a damn, because we don't want to fall
> into the proprietary trap that everyone did once before by rushing out to
> get PEP modems.

   Come on!

   I'm the first to declare the advantages of standards, but those who bought 
PEP years ago got their money's worth and more.  PEP reached 1000 CPS even 
before 2400 bps was commonly available; it still gives top adverse line 
handling.  And PEP came with spoofing, which is still useful in high-speed 
applications, even over full duplex links because of the increasingly 
significant effect of latency on throughput at higher speeds.

   No, people who bought PEP were *not* wasting their money as long as they 
were connecting to others who invested in PEP.  The same is true of all 
proprietary schemes, from USRobotic's HST protocol through these hotshot Codex 
devices.

  Geoffrey Welsh, 7 Strath Humber Court, Islington, Ontario, M9A 4C8 Canada
geoff@zswamp.uucp, [xenitec.on.ca|m2xenix.psg.com]!zswamp!geoff (416)258-8467
       You're still young if your wallet is exhausted before you are.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,biz.comp.telebit
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: Fax Option for WorldBlazer & T3000
Organization: The Gator Conferencing System 219-289-3745 
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 10:40:20 GMT

syny@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (R Craig Stevenson) writes:

>The FAX will support Group 3 (9600 send/receive) and Class 2 standards.

Is this a firmware upgrade?

-- 
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keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: alex@newcom.kiae.su (Aleksey Rudnev)
Subject: Re: Motorola Codex 326x should be reference for all others 
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:41:30 GMT
Organization: KIAE

In <722104925snx@cursci.demon.co.uk> gtoal@cursci.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal) writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.151714.11062@schbbs.mot.com> bates_r*Corp_C@msm.cdx.mpt.com writes:
>>     I am surprised that I haven't seen a posting here that compares any
>>modem with the Motorola Codex 326x modems. Sure, my company makes them,
>>but I don't work in sales and I do use them myself. Hell, 24Kbps
>>synchronous is hard to beat on a dial line.
>I think the majority of us don't give a damn, because we don't want to fall
>into the proprietary trap that everyone did once before by rushing out to
>get PEP modems.  Now its clearer that v32bis has advantages by virtue of
>being a standard, and we're all waiting for v.fast to be finalised.  No-one
>wants to be first on the block with another expensive toy that'll be a
>heap of junk that doesn't talk to anyone else in 2 years time.
No! But Codex modem's does have hight cost - it is 'professional' modem.
For example, ZyXel 16.8 (v32bis expansion) is better for wide using.

In addition. Of cource, PEP is proprietary protocol, but it does allow
UUnet to achive hight CPS until v32bis was not ready. And PEP
works everywhere, while V32bis... - let's you make attempt to stand
V32bis connection with Moscow - it faile during 1 - 5 minutes (PEP
does keep connections  stable).
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: Monty Solomon <monty%roscom@think.com>
Subject: Re: Faxmodem Upgrade for T3000's -- Worldblazer too?
Reply-To: Monty Solomon <roscom!monty@think.com>
Organization: Proponent
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 13:55:21 GMT

In article <880@gdx.UUCP> jay@gdx.UUCP (Jay Snyder) writes:
> 
> I got a flyer in the mail from Telebit Corp., about the latest T3000
> promotion.  It describe the new fax feature for the T3000s, and that
> this is an upgrade feature.  Could someone from telebit tell me if
> this is availible for WorldBlazers?

Yes.  It is available for T3000s or WorldBlazers.

-- 
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# monty%roscom@think.com
From: jcburt@gatsibm.larc.nasa.gov ()
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Digicom Scout Plus and Downloading Problems
Date: 23 Nov 1992 13:21:23 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center
NNTP-Posting-Host: gatsibm.larc.nasa.gov

In article <1992Nov23.052351.28874@news2.cis.umn.edu> mmoore@staff.tc.umn.edu ("None of ya Bizness") writes:
>In article <1992Nov22.001314.16113@news2.cis.umn.edu> mmoore@staff.tc.umn.edu ("None of ya Bizness") writes:
>
>$download using YMODEM-G/batch, it will start downloading for about 10
>$seconds, then the status message bar in Qmodem will say:
>$
>$CRC ERROR IN BLOCK #num (num being something like 8 or 10 or 11)
>$
>$then it will say
>$
>$LOST INTERRUPT ERROR
>$
>
>[and some other crazy shit...]
>
>This is a response to my own post, to yet you all know what's going
>on.  This CRC ERROR business only occurs when I use the Ymodem G/batch
>protocol.  If I use plain ymodem or ymodem 1k, then I get throughput
>of about 83-85 percent efficiency on a 9600 baud line (What is usually
>standard for ymodem 1k on a 9600 baud line)?
>

Okay, so this *isn't* a problem with the modem, its a problem with the
transfer protocols? I'm digging way back, but I thought Ymodem-G was
specifically for use with a modem using MNP error correcting protocol. 
Is your modem connecting using MNP or V42 error correction? The Gateway
Telepath I just sent back would attempt a V42 connection first, *then*
try the MNP connection, then fall back to no error correction (assuming
it couldn't make the connection with V42 or MNP). Could somebody refresh
my memory on Ymodem-G ? I'm pretty sure I remember it requiring hardware
error correction, and I *thought* it specified MNP2-4...anybody have the
facts?

John
jcburt@gatsibm.larc.nasa.gov
From: weisz@basie.mps.ohio-state.edu (Ivan Weisz)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Ever Left a Supra on for 24 hrs ?
Date: 19 Nov 1992 23:07:59 -0500
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: basie.mps.ohio-state.edu
Keywords: Supra, overheating (NOT)

I have bought my Supra v32.bis fax modem about six months ago. It is on
continuously since. (except for 1 second breaks when it freezes and I have to
turn it off, to get it work again)
It sits on the floor in soft carpet, so does not get much ventilation.
I measured with a sensitive thermometer and the hottest spot on the modem is
less then 3 F degrees warmer then the surrounding air temperature. In other
words just by touching I would not be able to tell if it heats up at all!
I guess I am just lucky with mine one. 
Though I have other problems with my modem... 
Ivan Weisz
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: derek@morris.b17d.ingr.com (Derek Morris)
Subject: Faxing with USR Sportster
Keywords: USR Sportster Fax
Reply-To: derek@morris.b17d.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville Al.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:31:05 GMT

I'm using WinFax Pro with my new USR Sportster fax modem.  It goes
through all the motions but all I get off the fax machine is the
top inch or two of the document.  I've seen this mentioned before
here, but didn't pay any attention (it was before I bought the 
Sportster).  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: klosp@rimail.interlan.com (Patrick Klos)
Subject: WHAT'S THE *BEST* MODEM???
Organization: Klos Technologies, Inc. (603) 424-0138
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:55:18 GMT

I see alot of people complaining about thier modems, but that only tells me 
what NOT to buy.  Maybe a quick discussion of what modems people aren't 
having problems with would help those of us looking to buy a new modem.

Personally, I'm looking for a GOOD 14.4K FAX/MODEM for about $300.  I know I 
won't get the BEST modem for $300, but maybe I can find the BEST $300 MODEM!

So if you have had a GOOD experience with a reasonably priced modem, speak 
out and help those of us looking to avoid the problems we're all reading 
about in this group.

Thank you,

Patrick Klos

P.S. I'd go as high as $400, but the modem BETTER BE WORTH IT!
========================================================================
        Patrick Klos                 Internet: klosp@rimail.interlan.com
        Klos Technologies, Inc.      Compuserve: 71521,145
        (603) 424-0138
========================All opinions are my own!========================
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: puma <puma@halcyon.com>
Subject: Re: Compatability problem?  (Hayes V-Series & Intel Satisfaxtiob 400
Originator: bbs@halcyon.com
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:54:20 GMT

lfinkelstein@vax.clarku.edu writes:

> clients.  They have one of the Hayes V-Series modems.  I don't remember which
> one, but it is a 9600 modem.  We have been using a 2400 modem that came with 
> 
> Now, my question.  Is there anyway at all to make these 2 modems connect at 
> 9600 baud, or did my company just blow $500 on a useless modem?

Well, I wouldn't have said it that way, but since you did...
Yup, it won't work, you blew $500.
Seriously, the Hayes V-series modems were a half-duplex 9600 bps based
on the V.32 standard that they called a 'ping-pong' V.32.
You can only talk with it at 9600 using a Hayes V-series modem or a
Hayes ULTRA modem which is V.32 or V.32bis (ULTRA-9600 or ULTRA 14400)
and also supports the V-modulation scheme.

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: lam@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Lam)
Subject: V.fast modems
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:52:51 GMT

Now that V.fast modems are out, who makes them?  I know motorola makes one.
I want to use this for SLIP/PPP(ideal at 115.2Kbps!).

Anyone know the prices?



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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: night@acm.rpi.edu (Trip Martin)
Subject: ZyXEL questions...
Reply-To: night@acm.rpi.edu
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:06:04 GMT

Is there any software for a sun that can talk to a ZyXEL modem?

Also, does anyone have the address of the manufacturer of ZyXEL modems?

Thanks...
-- 
Trip Martin
night@acm.rpi.edu
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night@acm.rpi.edu
From: nick+@pitt.edu (Nick C De Mello)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Where can I get a ZyXEL?
Date: 19 Nov 92 04:32:33 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <louislam.722144881@vincent1.iastate.edu> louislam@iastate.edu (Louis C Lam) writes:
>Is there any places selling the ZyXEL modem? 
>I know I can order directly from ZyXEL, but then I'll have to pay full retail.

Louis:

  Heard that Kaddy Shack (sp?) 800-638-1170 sells U-1496E for $329.
Also, there's a fellow on this group getting together a group order
that will get 'em for $300.  Don't have his e-mail here, but if he's
reading maybe he'll repost.

                                    -- Nick



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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: mcnichol@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (william mcnichols)
Subject: test
Summary: test
Keywords: test
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 12:20:01 GMT

Test message--please ignore.

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: paris@zygon.dev.cdx.mot.com (Gregory M. Paris)
Subject: Re: Motorola Codex 326x should be reference for all others 
Organization: Motorola Codex, Canton, Massachusetts
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:23:59 GMT

tnixon@hayes.com writes:
>I must agree with Geoff.  I don't think anyone here is more a 
>proponent of standards than myself.  I _do_ have my disagreements 
>with Codex, AT&T, and other companies with regard to their 
>pre-V.fast products, but these disagreements have NOTHING to do with 
>benefits (or lack thereof) to the end user.  My concerns are more 
>along the lines of (a) don't mislead people into thinking they're 
>getting a "real" V.fast modem [there's no such thing, yet], or that 
>you're sure you'll be able to upgrade them to the real standard at 
>no cost or some low fixed cost, and (b) don't expect the CCITT to 
>bend over backward to make sure you CAN do such upgrades [by 
>crippling the final standard so that you can implement it on your 
>current platform with just a ROM upgrade].  I do believe that 
>shipping such pre-V.fast products -- particularly by companies who 
>are actively involved in the V.fast committee -- distorts the 
>process, unavoidably and unfortunately involving political and
>marketing issues even more than they would otherwise be. 

With regard to (a), I'm wondering if you're referring to some specific
thing that Motorola Codex, AT&T or whoever has written or said that
misleads.  Yes, there has been some confusion, as has been seen in this
very newsgroup.  But the confusion has been over this term "v.fast".
What does it mean?  Obviously it's not a CCITT standard, since it
doesn't fit the normal format of V.<number>.  It seems to me that
unless somebody has trademarked the name or CCITT will be using
"v.fast" as the name of the standard, it's perfectly legitimate for
vendors to use the term.

Regarding (b), I seriously doubt that any vendor thinks the CCITT is
going to "bend over backwards".  And your suggestion that some
vendors are trying to "cripple" the standard is fairly inflammatory.
Just where are your facts?

It should be pointed out that the distortion that Toby speaks of can
work the other way too.  Say you're a vendor that has spent time and
money on "v.fast" development.  It's in your interest to get the
standard finalized as soon as possible -- that way you can be selling a
CCITT standard product before your competitors can.  If you're a
vendor that has to play catch-up, then you'd like to see the standard
take as long as possible, so you'll be ready with a product on the
day the standard is finalized.  Isn't that distortion too?

I'm not saying that the above is happening, but I'm sure you can see
that the politics of the situation work both ways.  But given that the
standard is a long way off, what choice do vendors with ready products
have other than to market them with proprietary encoding schemes?

Disclaimer:  I'm an employee of Motorola Codex (though I don't work on
modems), but am not a spokesperson.  The above expressed views are my
own.

-- 
Greg Paris <paris@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com>
Motorola Codex, 20 Cabot Blvd C1-30, Mansfield, MA  02048-1193
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: Tobias.Joensson@launchpad.unc.edu (Tobias Joensson)
Subject: ZFAX for ZyXEL modems
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:01:09 GMT

Hello,

I'm looking for the last issue of ZFAX - the fax program for DOS and ZyXEL
modems.

Please mail me at Tobias.Joensson@bbs.oit.unc.edu or Tobias@f422.n200.z2.fidonet.cd.chalmers.se

Thanks,
Tobias J
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From: sinan@carson.u.washington.edu (Sinan Karasu)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Zyxel refuses to drop carrier detect ?
Date: 22 Nov 92 21:19:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov22.211927.1834
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


 We got a Zyxel 1496E couple of weeks ago. This goes on a 
Sparcstation 1 at home. It works mostly great. (refreshing after 
4 USR Sportsters 14400 that never answered and 1 USR Sportster 9600
that did work for 10 days and died.) Anyway. Zyxel stays on line
after the uucp connection drops. Carrier detect stays on , 
and the line is hung up.... (If I call it I get a busy signal).
I have not been able to determine if the other side hangs up or
not. It seems to work fine if I tip to cua0 and connect and then
exit; then it drops the connection . Only in uucp do we have 
a problem. Has anybody been able to configure a Zyxel 1496E ver 5.02
correctly for a SparcStation?

The only things we change are 
  S00=001
  and sometimes &K0 (otherwise we have problems with 
                       telebit modems)

Thanx...
Sinan
From: louislam@iastate.edu (Louis C Lam)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Where can I get a ZyXEL?
Date: 19 Nov 92 03:48:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: vincent1.louislam.722144881
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

Is there any places selling the ZyXEL modem? 
I know I can order directly from ZyXEL, but then I'll have to pay full retail.

Louis