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From: 910252m@dragon.acadiau.ca (Dwayne MacKinnon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: x-mantas
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:30:23 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

djh4535@zeus.tamu.edu (HARRIS, DUANE J) writes:

>should rogue be able to control cyclop's beams because she lacks the 
>brain damage?

Yes. She has been shown as being able to do this in the X-Men annual where they
go to Asgard.


>how long does the person stay out after rogue "zaps" them?

It's on a 1/60 ratio.

>isn't that when their powers return? i didn't think that she could
>have the powers longer than the person was out. someone correct me on this.
>aren't they both on a 1/60 ratio?

The 1/60 ratio does apply. However, I remember reading somewhere that the
person could be woken up before the time limit is up. The thing is, they'd
be a tabula rasa (blank slate) with no powers, personality or memories until
the time limit passed.



DMK

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Nova Scotia, Canada.
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From: orpheus@next04cville.wam.umd.edu (Grant Jeffrey Barrus)
Subject: Re: Uncanny X-Men #298
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:23:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.154207.19781@husc3.harvard.edu>  
rramirez@husc10.harvard.edu (Robert Ramirez) writes:
> I know it's a late reaction, but I just got back from Christmas break a
> little over a week ago...
> 
> Wasn't anyone even slightly annoyed that Forge (if that WAS indeed he)
> wasn't even _identified_ in the current issue?
> 
> And since when was Forge ever a COP?  Can any Forge experts tell me if
> anything about him (besides being in 'Nam) that happened before he  
joined
> the X-Men?  Better yet, if someone's written a complete bio on him,  
could
> he (or she) please E-mail me a copy?  Thanx!
> 
> Unuscione?!?  Kleinstock?!?  Where DOES Scotty get these NAMES?!?
> 
> Any theories as to how exactly they'll bring back Magneto in #300?   
(They
> should've kept him dead like Superman (yeah right), but NOOOOOOO...)
> 
> Finally, how many are in favor of Professor X keeping the beard (or, at
> least, stubble) he's growing?
> 
> Peace,
> 
Sorry, but that wasn't Forge in Uncanny 298--it was Sergeant Corsi, a  
supporting cast member who's appeared off and on since he was introduced  
way back in (I think) New Mutants #19--part of the "Demon Bear Saga." Pick  
up the trade paperback if you don't believe me.

He also appeared in the issue when the Reavers attacked Muir island--long  
before that Shadow King stuff.
From: laker@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Brian McInerney)
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Subject: Psylocke is BABE #1
Date: 22 Jan 1993 22:36:02 GMT
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	This might be the wrong newsgroup for this but that       
	Hells Angel book that has had Psylocke guest star in:

	has the most el stinko crapolla art I've seen in a while!
	What a load of crap! Good thing I looked on the inside first!


	Brian <The Mac>
From: rramirez@husc10.harvard.edu (Robert Ramirez)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Men #18
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:54:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1993Jan27.145416.19863
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center


Spoilers ahead













Has anyone checked out the latest issue of X-Men?  I just picked it up
today.

DON'T tell me they're going to mess with that Illyana/Magik thing again!
Leave the poor girl alone!

Okay, Psylocke, we know you have a great butt (BOO-TAY, if you will).  But
isn't it a bit COLD for skimpiness?  You're in _Siberia_!  Get a clue!  (Not
that I'm _complaining_... *drool*)

WHAT?!?  They killed Peter's parents?!?  Okay, this means war.  I don't
care if you _are_ the Russian government.  _No_one_ screws with Colossus
and gets away with it.  (Man, I hope Pete does them in but _good_!)

Soul Skinner plunges into Cyclops's mind -- more mutant mutant angst angst
(ho hum...)  (To quote Danny DeVito in _Twins_, "Now _there's_ a man with a
lot on his mind!")

Don't Jubilee's pants look kind of like Boom-Boom's old get-up?  (At least
it's better than her Robin-wanna-be attire).

When _did_ Bobby have "very strong feelings" for Laynia, by the way?  What's
the story there?  I'm curious...  (Just how many girlfriends has Bobby had,
anyhow?  I know this is kind of a moot question, but let's see... there's
Opal, Lorna Dane... any more?)

Overall, a very good issue.  I'll start cheering when I see some more
character development, though.  I think that Fabian Nicieza can do wonders
for this title.  It will be interesting to see what he does with the X-Men.
He's pretty good with dialogue (but he _still_ doesn't come close to PAD!).

By the way, I think it's really cool how they're mixing the Blue and Gold
Strike Teams back and forth.  Chances are, everyone who collects X-Men
also collects Uncanny X-Men as well, so it's no problem.


Peace,

R ^ 3 (wearing his asbestos suit, just in case)

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From: tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Thanatos)
Subject: Re: Nightcrawler, NCCS, and Excalibur #63
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:46:49 GMT

In article <ofNLRka00iV2Q3jl4t@andrew.cmu.edu> "Michael J. Keating" <mk56+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>> 
>>Or perhaps it's a symptom of the disease that's killing the Warpies,
>>although I thought that was more a genetic destabilization than a
>>corporeal one.
>> 
>>-- mason
> 
>hogwash.  The disease "killing the Warpies" is not legit. There's
>something fishy going on that I'm sure we'll find out more about in the
>next issue.
>--mike
Personally, I think it is the effects of RCX trying to cure the warpies, then
covering it up.  Say you found a drug that slowly turned them normal.  It 
seemed to work, so you gave it to a lot of warpies.  Then it retrograded, and
started killing them off.  I think the virus in question has to do with 
fixing the "warped" gene matrix of some mutants (that makes the phenotype 
vary GREATLY from human norm).  The RCX simply wants a stablilized (second 
generation mutation) warped matrix to play with, to see what can and can't 
be changed. 

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From: blokhead@leland.Stanford.EDU (Darren Pakying Lum)
Subject: Re: X-Men Intrigue
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 13:19:29 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.212114.19885@husc3.harvard.edu> rramirez@husc10.harvard.edu (Robert Ramirez) writes:
>Martin Phipps writes:
>>
>>>
>>>Besides, someone like Psylocke is definitely too good to pass
>>> up.  
>>
>>I don't know.  Would this statement still be true if Scott were married
>>to Jean?
>
>But see, that's the whole problem!  They're NOT married!  You think that
>after all they went through together, they should at least be married by
>now!  I mean, why did Scott marry Madeline Pryor in the first place?  Because
>she reminded him exactly of Jean!  And Scott even proposed to Jean herself,
>but she turned him down!

On this subject, any speculation out there if Scott and Jeans relationship
is moving in the direction of marriage at all?  Doesn't appear that this 
will happen anytime in the near future (no mention of it in Marvel Preview
'93), but any opinions on if it will EVER happen?

thanks,
darren
From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Factor 88 (SPOILERS)
Date: 24 Jan 93 18:21:06 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com:
>Didn't read "Night Thrasher LS," so I didn't know Fabe had done it...but I
>wish I *had* known, because....I could have just said, "See?  There's 
>precedent for it."

Another precedent, if the Distinguished Competition counts, is Maxwell
Lord hiring his kidnappers over in Justice League.

-----
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dani@netcom.com

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From: bert@snowman.med.umn.edu (Albert Nakano  CBN)
Subject: Wolverine: Does anyone like this title?
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 03:57:25 GMT

Is it just my imagination, or am I the only one currently enjoying the
Wolverine title?  I have much respect for Larry Hama as a writer (something
artist fanboys and fangirls(?) seem to forget is a crucial component to
a successful comic book(book, get it?)) and sometimes annoying with the
disproportionate body plan TEX is also more than up to the task at hand.
That's not to say I don't have complaints, but with Marvel, I'm not sure
who is responsible for the plot.  Hama's major retconning of Wolverine's
past is interesting.  I just hope he can tie up all on conflicting info
about this mutant.  The last two issues were hilarious, with Wolvie's
hallucinations and all.  I liked the bit about "You're the best at what
you do!" comment from the imaginary folks on the bus, including Castro.
One major complaint on the last issue (sorry, don't have the number in
front of me) is on the last page.  "He's Epsilon Red, the Soviet Super
ASTROnaut"... NOT!  Does Marvel have an editor?  The former USSR, and
the world, has always called the soviet spacemen COSMONAUTS.  Oh well,
I'm looking forward to the conclusion of this story line.

no sig yet,
Albert Nakano
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From: jherico@netcom.com (B. Austin Davis)
Subject: Re: X-Factor 88 (SPOILERS)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 18:47:40 GMT

In article <74261@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
>Corvese and Bob Harras over the notion of Alex buying the guy off.  They
>both said it was unethical.  They wanted to have Alex pay off Random, lure

Alex works for the U.S. Government.  Where does 'ethical' enter into it?  Not
to mention that these people are filling the role that was not that long ago
filled by the ex-brotherhood of evil mutants, people who had tried to 
assasinate Senator Kelley.  Ethical indeed.  gosh that irks me.  For that 
matter, Im suprised that we havent seen X-Factor used in some sort of espionage
yet.  Or perhaps X-Factor is not the only government sanctioned group.  

Shadowy figure in the oval office: "Tell stealth-boy I need those docuemnts
from Iraq. And have Computer-Processing-Lass give me an update on potential
dissidents on the usenet."



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From: dv52151@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (RedSwordTarga)
Subject: Re: X-Men Intrigue
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:17:32 GMT

rramirez@husc10.harvard.edu (Robert Ramirez) writes:



>it.  Then Psylocke could give Jean the once-over in a TP cat fight, with
>Jean's last words being "Stay away from my man!" as Betsy's psychic knife
>drills her cerebrum.  Psylocke may not have TK abilities like Jean, but all
>she has to do is block Jean's access to them telepathically while she kicks
>her ass!

*laugh* Well, not to burst your bubble, but Psylock has to hit her
opponent to use her Psi-Knife. Try doing that when your opponent can
fly, and toss you around like a rag doll. If Jean Gray ever gets a mad
on and starts playing for keeps, watch out. 


>And I have to agree -- Psylocke _IS_ Babe #1!!!

Nope..that's X-Slut #1..Team equipment, kind of like the Blackbird..
ya know, everyone uses it..

Axly
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From: mahesh@numenor.next.nd.edu (Mahesh "BigMan" Subramanya)
Subject: Prof is the traitor!!
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:19:11 GMT

Simple..., the cloned prof is actually not the cloned prof.  In the  
current retcon-happy environment, it should be relatively trivial to  
figure out a way to show that it's somebody elses mind.....


(gag)

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From: rramirez@husc10.harvard.edu (Robert Ramirez)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Psylocke
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:10:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1993Jan25.221050.19792
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

Since Psylocke has been such a HOT topic in this newsgroup...

Could some Psylocke expert/fanatic/fanboy please E-mail me a complete
bio?  Actually, I wouldn't mind having a Rogue bio as well.  I sure
would appreciate it.  Thanx!

Peace,

R ^ 3

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-- Guido (Strong Guy), X-Factor #74

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From: jherico@netcom.com (B. Austin Davis)
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Subject: Re: X-Factor 88 (SPOILERS)
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:20:30 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

>(gonna have to change my .sig soon...it's bordering on PAD worship!)

"we're not worthy...we're not worthy"


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From: lpc4@po.CWRU.Edu (Lawrence P. Colucci)
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Subject: Re: Wolverine: Does anyone like this title?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 19:23:35 GMT
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UNDONE?  I'm tired of people undoing what has been done.  Way back
when, just when he was becoming one of Marvel's best characters (as
a core member of the X-men, no longer a loner), they decide they
need something new and erase/return/screw up his memories and
return to writing him the way he was when he first showed up.  No
longer is he the wise but dangerous Logan.  I wish they would
just get on with things (and get an artist of Silvestri's quality)
and stop messing with his head.  I liked most of the issue after
Mariko's dead where he dealt with his feelings (and Jean Grey).
I wish that Marvel would start dealing with reality.
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From: clark@netcom.com (Sue Clark)
Subject: Re: Nightcrawler, NCCS, and Excalibur #63
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 07:50:19 GMT

weasel@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Mike Rosenberg) writes:

>Is there anyone else who thought that Capt. Britain's loss of power, and then
>his regaining it are connected to Phoenix?  I guess it lept into my mind when
>Meggan mentioned that the 'light' had gone away and then come back again.  

>I realize this once again goes against everything that has been said in past
>issues of Excalibur, but it strikes me that they may be trying to form a
>connection there for some undoubtedly inane reason.

>Just want to know what the general consensus is...

No, I hadn't thought of it.  Now that you mention it, I agree.  It is
inane.

Sue
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From: Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com
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Subject: Re: X-Factor 88 (SPOILERS)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 04:17:41 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Didn't read "Night Thrasher LS," so I didn't know Fabe had done it...but I
wish I *had* known, because I had to fight tooth-and-nail with both Kelly
Corvese and Bob Harras over the notion of Alex buying the guy off.  They
both said it was unethical.  They wanted to have Alex pay off Random, lure
him out into the parking lot, then beat him up and take the check back.
My response was, "How in hell is *that* *MORE* ethical?  That makes him a 
thug!"  So they let me do it.  If I'd known that Fabian did a similar riff,
I could have just said, "See?  There's precedent for it."

PAD
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From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Subject: Re: Madrox and diseases (was Re: X-Factor #88)
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 08:26:26 GMT

>i find this discussion interesting;
>here is a point i'd like to make.
>by sharing/integrating said disease it would decrease the potency of
>said disease. (like when he heal a rib by merging or something)
>so if he like had say herpes it could be diluted to a point where
>he could naturally throw it off

Throw it off? We're not talking about the flu, here!
You contract an STD by getting a _very small_ amount of the virus. It then
grows. Your immune system isn't capable of "throwing it off"; if it were,
then STDs wouldn't be a problem!)
(For that matter, does anybody know if he can shake a cold the same way? I
doubt it...)

I think this idea comes from the remake of the Fly, where Brundle learns that
he can remove the tainted DNA from is body by merging with another human.
(Yeah... but what about all of the _other_ characteristics of the person?
Where do they go?)

Besides, Madrox has never been one to exploit his power in such a manner.

Jay (=

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From: jchiu@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (James Chiu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: comic code
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:43:09 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

djh4535@summa.tamu.edu (HARRIS, DUANE J) writes:
> simply what is it? 
> what is the comic code?
> 
> 		seth I
It's a censorship group that makes sure that the contents on the
comic book isn't too overly violent, no overuse of language, sex, etc...

For one, Image Comics don't go by the code.  That is why
for example, Spawn, is very violent.
From: jdelacr@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Jorge DeLaCruz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Nightcrawler, NCCS, and Excalibur #63
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:33:55 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <24JAN199309410131@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> jdelisle@sol.ctr.columbia.edu (J. G. Delisle) writes:
>In article <93023.054755SIMMONS@UCF1VM.BITNET>, Tad Simmons <SIMMONS@UCF1VM.BITNET> writes...
>>Ok, I had a thought (and: No, the world didn't end).
>>When Nicholas (and, on page 24, _why_ is his name accentuated, are we supposed
>>to know him?) is talking about Kurt as a second-generation mutant, he says
>>"(big red) IF his parents were mutants as well as he...  ...he inherited their
>>warped gene as well as developing one of his own."  OK, now, Kurt is the only
>>teleporter I can think of off hand, so what does that leave?  Sticking to walls
>>and limited invisibility (speaking of which, has this ever been mentioned
>>before?  I don't recall it...  Is it mentioned in the Marvel Universe?).  Now,
>

   His "invisibility" has been mentioned a few times, but it was refered to as
  Blending into the Shadows, cause of his indigo skin.  First time I recall
  seeing it is when the X-Men fought the Juggernaut and Black Tom as Cassidy
  Keep.  Can Kurt was Knocked out and rescued by the "Little People".

							Jorge
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From: jdelacr@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Jorge DeLaCruz)
Subject: Re: Rachel Summers, Phoenix, and the Multiverse
Organization: The Great Beyond
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:57:40 GMT

In article <gfNkQcu00WBNA7gXVm@andrew.cmu.edu> "Michael J. Keating" <mk56+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>I've heard (again and again) references to the fact that Pheonix did not
>exist in Rachel's timeline.  However, in issue #192  (I think -- the
>isssue I have in mind is the one where Rachel meets Kitty Pride for the
>first time when she returns from Japan) I distinctly remember Rachel
>remembering that Kate Pryde (in the future) used the words "Dark
>Pheonix" to send Rachel back in time.  Anyone else remember this? 
>Wouldn't it mean that Pheonix had existed in Rachel's timeline after all?
>Sorry if this topic is getting on everyone's nerves after all the
>rehashing, but that point has been bugging me.
> 

     Yes, I remember it too.  Let the Battle begin anew.


							
							Jorge



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From: rlcarr@athena.mit.edu (Richard L. Carreiro)
Subject: X-Factor 88 (SPOILERS)
Organization: Digitopolitan Embassy to the US
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:45:57 GMT

You've been warned...


Well, kudos to Peter David for a novel way of getting a
Bad Guy(tm) out of your hair, though I believe someone on the 
net suggested something similar a few weeks ago.
Paying him more than his employers paid him.  I love!

Quick question, though...no followup on what happened
to Val at the end of #87.  Was the end of #87 supposed to
be just a joke, or was it real?  Or did something happen to Val --
wwitness Jamie's (?) remark about it seeming like Val was
replaced with an evil twin.  Of course, she could just be peeved
still over Sampson telling her she knew nothing about the team.

Anyone willing to speculate or say anything on this?

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