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From: s1070422@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (Damien Binding)
Subject: Re: A View of Kryptonian Powers
Organization: Monash University College Gippsland, Churchill, 3842, Australia
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 01:27:21 GMT

In article <77278@ut-emx.uucp> danfrank@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Daniel Frank) writes:
>Tony, your lengthy explanation of powers would seem to be a good one.
>However, a couple of problems exist.
>
>Firstly, this explanation does not explain Daxamite powers. The Daxamites
>who came to Earth during _Invasion_ got their powers almost immediately.
>Assumably so did Valor who, as established (sorta) in another thread,
>is probably in his teens. Granted, all this contradicts the idea that
>Supes did not immediately get all his powers but they slowly manifested.
>Perhaps it works differently with Daxamites, but in that Daxam orbits
>a red sun, I'm not sure that was the intent. (Maybe just bad planning
>on someone's part).
Could this be that it is because the Daxamites came to Earth were over 18, the
time when Supes had recieved his full powers? How the hell does Supes get his
powers! Is it still the rays from our sun or is there some other explanation
now? If it is the rays of the sun, it could be the intake cells don't fully
mature until the person's body reaches full maturity (or maybe just bad
planning on someone's part).!

>
>I recall a _Superman_ story where Supes goes with the Hawks to where
>Krypton used to be. He gets too close to the Kryptonite and has a
>dream where Krypton survives and takes over the Earth. In the dream,
>Jor-El becomes the Kryptonian hero of Earth. All the adults of Krypton
>gain powers. This can probably be explained as being the result of
>Supes not knowing any better. (The dream also showed a potential
>cure for Kryptonite poisoning which didn't work outside the dream).
>
>
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>:                    top of a vat of foam rubber!       :
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>:                   against it would make even the most :
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From: gdg023@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Vicky Wayman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re Duality
Date: 19 Aug 92 11:53:55 GMT
Organization: Coventry Polytechnic, Coventry, UK

Calling John Holt and others!
Our system refuses to email you - overlong alias.
Thanks for the help. If you have any ideas as to the relationship
between Batman and Catwoman portrayed as tragic would be lovers in 
the film, about the relationship of his to Superman, the motivations
and psychological makeup of two face, exact issues etc it would be great.
Goodluck with the report. Sorry for using trn but our system is screwed.
Thanks

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From: perry@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Perry Staltari)
Subject: Re: ECLIPSO checklist
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 02:28:50 GMT

scottw@pdnfido.fidonet.org (Scott Weintraub) writes:

>I didn't pick up Eclipso right away and sorry now that I realized it crossed
>over every DC annual.  I've been scrambling to find any book relating to
>the Eclipso saga lately but don't know exactly where I'm going with it. 
>I just wanted to know if anybody knew which issues does Eclipso hit and in
>which order they're in.  Those little captions at the end of each issue
>don't really help.  Thanks in advance...

	The Eclipso series is brilliant. I've got the whole series thus
far and enjoy it thoroughly. The cross-overs don't tend to be in any
real particular order. I read them as they came out and as far as I
know, there is only one more Superman annual, Batman annual and the
second Eclipso to appear. Ireally enjoyed the L.E.G.I.O.N. annual, but
then again I love LEGION '92 and Lobo is a character to be recond with.

	Enjoy and don't be a Bastich!


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From: kesidis@panther.uwaterloo.ca (George Kesidis)
Subject: Re: Valiants with coupons missing
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:28:28 GMT

I think the condition of the comic without the coupon 
is important because the demand for these comics will
ultimately decline and, if not, trades will be issued.
What will a trade containing Harbringer #1-6 do to
the value of these Harbringer issues without coupons?
I am reluctant to pay $50 for these issues w/o coupons
for this reason.

Also, the coupons themselves have a drawing on them so isn't
removing them the same as "removing art" from the comic?
The magnus issues had their coupons on a strip
with three other trading cards. Clipping the coupon means
mutilating the strip.
gk

Xref: sparky rec.arts.comics:22262 talk.bizarre:26918
From: steppe@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Top Changwatchai)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Death's Gender
Date: 21 Aug 92 06:10:03 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics

In article <rl9m3xc.chaos@netcom.com> chaos@netcom.com (chaos) writes:
>> Big Al writes:
>> Who wants to have sex with Death, anyway?
>
>i can't think of a soul, actually.
>perhaps someone with a death wish.
>
>but i'm quite sure you'd have to have a date with Death, first.
>
>
>chaos
>
>we're just friends you know

A date with Death?  Actually, it'd be more proper to have a date with Destiny.
Then I suppose you could dance with Delight, then drool with Desire.

Or maybe not.

Top
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From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Subject: Re: Guardians (was Re: Marvel 2099)
Organization: Victoria University of Technology
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 08:38:30 GMT

cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  8823239) writes:

>Actually, I rather like Guardians. I felt it was one one of the better
>Marvels out there (along with the Hulk, New Warriors, and X-Factor).
>Nice art, good storyline and Valenteno obviously new where he was going
>with the story. To bad Marvel felt they had to punish someone for the
>mass defections to Image. If the last issue or two of Guadians without
>Valenteno art is any indication, the title may end up on my cancel list
>soon.

>BTW, I haven't read Shadowhawk yet. It gets here tomorrow, hopefully.
>It's reaaly that bad? I reaaly thought it might be the savior of the
>Image titles. At least Valenteno can write. Now it looks like
>WildC.A.T.S, may be their only hope. At least until Claremont's new
>title is released.

Who else will be doing the book with Claremont? 

Jed
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From: cwang@gsb.columbia.edu (Chris Wang)
Subject: WildC.A.T.S
Keywords: Lee, Image, WildC.A.T.S
Organization: Columbia Business School
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:09:46 GMT

Did anyone else notice that the T.V. news woman was the woman from SPAWN?
I think it was the CNN lady.

-Chris
Chris Wang
cwang@admin.gsb.columbia.edu
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From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The Tomfool)
Subject: Re: Black Orchid
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 00:43:20 GMT

lf7z@ellis.uchicago.edu (glenn alan carnagey jr) writes:

>In article <cwang.7.713823508@gsb.columbia.edu> cwang@gsb.columbia.edu (Chris Wang) writes:
>>Does anybody know anything about the comic Black Orchid by Gaiman? I saw the 
>>TPB in the store the other day and wasn't sure if it was any good. The art 
>>looked nice. Any and all opinions are welcome.

>I liked it a lot, but most of our fellow netters disagreed when I said so
>not so long ago.  A lot of the criticism was directed at Dave McKean, the

I read it based on the recommendations of fellow netters.  I was very
happy with it.

>[...] chances are good you'll like the story, but it's nothing like
>Sandman, really.  It's more a slow ride with attractive scenery, a lot of good
>characterization and plot built slowly with very little action.  With

It held my interest, and that's something that Sandman doesn't always
manage to do.  It's closer to standard super-heroics than, say, the
Swamp Thing issues by Moore.  Overall, it was really enjoyable.

Tom
From: netnews@leadsv.UUCP (Leads Network News)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: A Murder of Crows (and more ...)
Keywords: n
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:14:47 GMT
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale

>In article <11AUG199212130574@jane.uh.edu>, chem8w@jane.uh.edu (Councilman, David A.) writes:
>> In article <1992Aug10.213556.22776@lokkur.dexter.mi.us>, scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons) writes...
>>>pariah@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Michael Malone) writes:
>>> 
>>>>In a recent issue of Sandman, mention was made of some
>>>>unusual names for groups of animals. I was hoping to
From: mcfar@leadse5.UUCP (Lincoln McFarland)
From Click and Clack, the tap-it brother's NPR show "Car Talk":

A shrug of mechanics



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From: megazone@wpi.WPI.EDU (MegaZone23)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,alt.sex,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Death's Gender
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:31:29 GMT
Organization: WPI USAF -- United Society of Animation Fans

In article <1992Aug17.063448.202@sura.net> wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes) writes:
>In article <1992Aug14.210323.28979@uwm.edu> markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Hunk) writes:
>>Death is a ravenous bisexual female who lusts for everyone.  No matter how
>>hard you try, you will not be able to resiste her seductive powers.   . . .
>[blah blah blah, yada yada, etc. etc.]
>Nono, dude, that's *Desire*.  Get your anthropomorphic personifications
>of noncorporeal conceptions straight!

ROTFL!!!

ahem... Well, actually, if you recall, Desire has no definate sex... Which
leads to it being called sister-brother and the like...

But Death is absolutely incredible! I actually fell in love with her... the
look, the personality, perfection! (I'd really like to see a picture of 
Cinnamon sometime....)

>Sheesh, some people...

Yeah... They just don't read fine literature...

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From: jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov)
Subject: Re: Mike Jittlov (was Re: Worst Comic Books of All Time)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 09:26:27 GMT

wkaufman@us.oracle.com (William Kaufman) writes:

>In article <jittlov.713694687@gumby.cs.caltech.edu> jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov) writes:
>[...The Rule, deleted,...]
>] If I'm a (drawing) artist, do I Go to r.a.c.-Jail?

>    No, it's not a restriction on the poster, but a fact of the Net
>itself.  It forces a Crisis in which every net.person gets their history
>rewritten, complete with interlocking crossovers, multiple covers and
>collectibles.

WHAT?  But...that's the story of My Life!   :@  [smiley yelling]
Whoaaaa...  I am living...in a net.reality  8o  [smiley Casper]

Hey...maybe I can make a movie about THIS one.  [And get it right, this time] 
And tie-in comics, with Coupons!  Yes!  And coupons vastly superior in art
and quality to the stuff you're supposed to send even _more_ $$$ for!!!
[I believe he's _got_ it]  And then, forget the comics...make whole books
of just coupons!  And then, you can flip the coupons, and all the pretty
pictures will dance, and animate, and [-WRONG, reverse polarity, re-write]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

That's it, I've been staring at this screen too long - I need a trip to
someplace s*a*n*e...  See you at the ComiCon!

-mjj
From: otten@quark.umd.edu (Neil Ottenstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Guardians (was Re: Marvel 2099)
Date: 18 Aug 92 12:37:31 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <1992Aug17.221148.11710@njitgw.njit.edu> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.190255.16713@morgan.ucs.mun.ca> cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  8823239) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug17.132513.15087@njitgw.njit.edu> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
>>>Oh, please.  Valentino did that in Guardians of the Galaxy.  And it 
>>
>>Actually, I rather like Guardians. I felt it was one one of the better
>>Marvels out there (along with the Hulk, New Warriors, and X-Factor).
>>Nice art, good storyline and Valenteno obviously new where he was going
>>with the story. To bad Marvel felt they had to punish someone for the
>>mass defections to Image. If the last issue or two of Guadians without
>>Valenteno art is any indication, the title may end up on my cancel list
>>soon.
>
>Was he really fired?  I had assumed so, since he said he had plots
>ready up until at least issue #50, which, obviously, he didn't reach.

Yes, he was really fired.  I wrote to him and he said that the editor
thought that Valentino was only thing stopping the book from being a top
selling book.  I also mentioned that I really disliked the
Punisher-gangs storyline. He said that halfway through the first issue
of that storyline, his original plan (whatever that was) was changed out
from under him by the editor so he had to basically improvise from there
without much time to really plan things out.  

Neil Ottenstein
otten@quark.umd.edu
From: jrp3935@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jonny Ray Purvis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Ravage 2099
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:47:47 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station

In article <3468@babcock.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu> husty@cathedral.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu (Steve Husty) writes:
>
>	Ravage 2099 - "Mercenary Garbage-Men Executioners" The Earth has
>		      had its fill of garbage (excuse the pun), and garbage
>		      men carry BIG-GUNS to shoot offenders (litter-bugs).
>		      Stan Lee is actually doing this one.

  Very interesting thought here.  In a recent interview or article (in CBG
I believe) John Byrne talked about a new book (or was it a new line?) that
he and Stan Lee worked on.  In the end, Marvel didn't want it, so he 
published it after rewriting as Next Men.  The thing is, the concept that
Byrne came up with originally was the same as described for Ravage above.
As I remember, Byrne had come up with the idea himself, and retained 
ownership when they seperated.  Has something changed, or does Stan Lee
have a different story about this?  Could someone with a copy of that CBG
fill in the many details I've forgotten, if any are pertinent?

Jon Purvis
jrp3935@tamsun.tamu.edu
From: agbrooks@teaching.cs.adelaide.edu.au (Zoz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: The most influential comic books of all time...
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:28:47 GMT

Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,alt.fan.suicide-squid

In article <1992Aug11.140115.232322@cs.cmu.edu>, marv+@cs.cmu.edu (Marvin Germany) writes:
|> In article <4574@rosie.NeXT.COM> erikkay@next.com (Erik Kay) writes:
|> >
|> >I'd have to say Suicide Squid #24 (first run). Without a doubt.
|>
|> Is this a real comic book? I always thought that it was a joke crated
                                                                  ^^^^^^
|> by some net people. If it is real, can you tell me where I can find
|> a copy?

You are thinking of the ill-fated Suicide Squid spin-off, "Deadly Defenders of
the Deep" #1, which came packaged in 8 different coloured lobster crates as
a promotion. This did not sell well at all, due to the low orders from comic
shops who had no space to put them. They are even more rare now, as many of
the people who did buy them foolishly removed them from their crates,
destroying their value. However the normal Suicide Squid title is still
going strong, ask your local comic shop owner for it.
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From: tyg@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: Constantine knock-offs (was Re: DC: Hellblazer/Swamp Thing query)
Organization: Interleaf
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 01:26:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.134627.23463@oracle.us.oracle.com> wkaufman@us.oracle.com (William Kaufman) writes:
>    Now that's interesting (I never read _Firestorm_).  How many
>versions of JC are there?  There's also Kipling in _Doom_Patrol_, and
>(arguably) Wilkerson in _Sandman_.  Any others?  (I'd be surprised if

Phil Foglio will be making note of the Legion of Constantine Clones in
the upcoming Stanley and His Monster mini-series. This is as a result
of his being denied permission to use either Constantine or Kipling by
the editor(s) in charge of same and introing yet another unshaven mystic
in a trenchcoat.

"Tom Galloway went to Lunacon '85 and all he got was this lousy Foglio
plate" --the slogan on the lousy Foglio plate with the drawing of me
holding a plate that I got at Lunacon '85.
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: Marshall Law
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:20:39 GMT

Originally published by Marvel UK in the magazine _Strip_, ML was reprinted as 
a six issue LS in the Epic line back when Epic was still kinda active.  But the
2099 line will be under the normal Marvel banner, not Epic.  Besides, even Epic
dropped it when the Batman parody issue came down the pike (he, I know it 
wasn't necessarily cause-and-effect, I just find it ironic).  In any case, 
Mills has written for the Punisher before, in the UK version.
     Dave Van Domelen, calculated that a 125lb person suffers 9G of 
acceleration at the bottom of a bungee cord, while I only would suffer 7.5G at 
my svelte 250lbs.  Yes, true believers, G-forces from bungee jumping increase 
without bound as the weight of the jumper decreases, and I have the 
calculations to prove it (wow, my sig is nearly longer than the message, and it
doesn't even include a drawring!)
From: scottw@pdnfido.fidonet.org (Scott Weintraub)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Image
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:38:34 GMT
Organization: The Source for Source Pub Access Unix

In article <1992Aug17.144911.21218@urbana.mcd.mot.com> asoto@dacapo.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Anthony Soto) writes:
>
>In article <1992Aug15.050708.25499@sol.UVic.CA>,
>jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling) writes:
>|> In article <1992Aug14.145444.15510@urbana.mcd.mot.com>
>asoto@dacapo.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Anthony Soto) writes:
>|>>thing has been true of all of the Image books (except Youngblood) so
>far, the
>|>>coloring is phenomenal. I've been very impressed with the job that's
>been done 
>|>>on the coloring of all the books. The coloring in Brigade even made
>Liefeld's
>|>>artwork appealing to my eye.
>
>|> Liefeld didn't do any of the art in Brigade.  Check the credits again.
>
>Thanks for pointing that out. I was starting to think that maybe my taste in
>artwork was faltering. :-)
>					Tony

The amazing thing is that the only qualification necessary to pencil an
issue of Brigade is whether or not you can draw as bad as Rob Liefeld...

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From: chris@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Casey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Valiant, hello anyone out there?
Date: 16 Aug 92 19:51:46 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <BsyHLo.8vn@news.udel.edu> lmlc@brahms.udel.edu (Carolyn M Chandler) writes:
>but i was just wondering am I the only 'Valiant Zombie' out there.  I have seen less then 10 posts in the last 2 weeks on Valiant books and am just wondering
>
nope.  Valiant's pretty much all I collect, save for a few Dark Horse titles & 
Lobo....

>well thats all from this fanitical Valiant collocter (50 valiant books a month)
50??????????  I didn't know there *were* that many!  Could there be?  I collect
everything except Rai & Magnus (am I the only one here who doesn't like Magnus 
art?), but I don't think I have nearly that much....well, I guess I could go 
count....:)  Anyway, like someone said, hopefully we'll see more char. 
development in Shadowman (my favorite) & A&A, but I don't think they were 
totally killed by UNTIY... 



Chris
From: MATMNB@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU (BRAZIL,Marcus N)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: feminist comics
Date: 17 Aug 92 05:35:31 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22

In <witta.713823591@sfu.ca> witta@fraser.sfu.ca writes:

> while i don't approve of the classification, it is easily understood.
> the book that jumps to mind immediately is 'Real Girl' from Fantagraphics 
> check it out (if its still being published).

Yes, it's still being published. Issue 4 appeared about a week or so ago.
Quite a good issue with a nice mixture of personal and political stories.
Not my favorite anthology, but well worth a look.

Another recent comic that could possibly be termed "feminist" (in the broadest
sense) is Nina Paley's new comic from Dark Horse. Her work is fun, cartoony,
and very energetic. This is an enjoyable and satisfying little collection
of stories. Reccomended!

........Marcus Brazil.........
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From: whijv2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (WHITAKER JASON)
Subject: Wild C.A.T.S vs X-MEN
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:54:54 GMT

    I don't know why most of you people out there collect X-things, but
I do it for the characters. The art and story, while they help, are not
the be all and end all of a comic. I read them to follow the characters,
not to look at pretty pictures.
    
    For those of you who hate the X-men now because of dangling plots
or bad art, where is your loyalty to the team? So they are going through
bad times graphically, they will pull through. Ask yourselves this,
"If I am reading this book for the art or just a good story, do I deserve
to read it at all?" You people have no loyalty/feelings at all.

    For those of you who are flaming Wild C.A.T.S, take it easy, they
are the new kids on the block, wait and see how they perform before
lighting up those flamethrowers.

    Me, I will never flame a comic on principle. Comics are to be
coveted, not insulted.

    Anybody who flames me and starts to get personal won't see another
    moonrise.}:>

The Sneaky One
 
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