From: dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska)
Subject: Re: Sheep in Organizations
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:47:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec25.032326.1@acad3.alaska.edu> nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec25.074739.19527@meteor.wisc.edu>, stvjas@meteor.wisc.edu (Stephen Jascourt) writes:
>
>Well let us in Alaska decide the fate of our lands. Let us have the same
>oportunity to make our fortunes. We just might suprise you on how it can be
>done without dystroying the environment.. 
>What I started with was that the people from outside of Alasa do not respect
>our rights of self determination. And maybe the people outside of Alaska might
>enjoy doing what they have been doing to Alaska.. I doubt that anyone would
>like it if someone decided to condemn and make a preserve the land that they
>have been hunting, fishing, and using for many centuries (in come cases that
>is).  Basically resay what I haev said in the past, clean your own house
>before you even try to clean mine..

Many in the lower 48 are trying to prevent the same mistakes that happened
down here from happening in Alaska.  Maybe we are or aren't doing a good
job of that.  Michael Adams would probably know better than I would.
Maybe we are doing a good job of preventing the damage but are hurting
local people more than needs to be.  Nevertheless, there are many people 
in Alaska with short-term profit in their minds.  
>
>I know that there has been many precendences for mass exploitation, but all
>that is happening is locking the land up so that no one can use it, other than
>a select few, congressmembers and their cronies.. 

And the animals that live there.

>Its interesting to note that
>in most of the mining operations that I know on rivers that the miners most
>times return the water to the river cleaner than it was when they got it..
>Maybe not as good as the EPA standards, but most of those standards are pure
>bull and made up by some scientist who generally has no knowledge of the rivers
>they are making standards for..  Also the only people who will benefit for
>locking the land up will be the large oil companies. As it is we generally can
>not sell our oil, gas, coal, copper and such to anyone but who the US Gov says
>to, and at the price that they set.. If anyone complains especially about oil,
>the person is declared a traitor to the national interest.,..
>So basically what is to happen is that Alaska will be raped and pillaged, but
>not by individuals, but by the FED and thier favorite butt buddies..
>Michael Adams alias Ghost Wheel/Morgoth NSMCA@acad3.alaska.edu

I also spoke of the difference between local users and the large corporate
users.  Why is it that many Alaskan's support the large corporations is
what you say is true?  How about if I suggest that lands continue to
be locked up for large-scale extraction, but local people be given
much more freedom for uses that are local in nature.
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