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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:56:37 PDT
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From:         Debbie Hackleman <hacklemd@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
Subject:      Linking Analytics on ADVANCE

          This is in response to the comment from Stanislas concerning
          linking analytics.  This has been a serious problem for
          Oregon State University since we got on the system several
          years ago.  We have attempted to use the Bound With option
          in the item records.  While it is possible to link with this
          option, there are numerous difficulties.  The option was
          apparently designed to be used only for books which are
          bound together.  Trying to use it for analytic linking
          requires (at least from our observations) that lines 6, 7,
          and 8 should display in the parent item and the analytic
          item.  Currently only line 6 is lifted from one record and
          displayed on the Detailed Display of the other.  This means
          that to retain all call number information that copy and
          volume information must be entered into line 6 of the serial
          item records.  This (besides being incorrect inputting)
          causes a mess in the call number search since every volume
          and copy number is listed when you browse through the call
          number index.

          There are difficulties with analytics since there are two
          kinds--those that are several titles bound in one physical
          volume and those that are separate titles which are
          individual physical volumes of a serial.  I discussed this
          with Eloise when the GEAC team was here last November and
          thought that we agreed the solution was probably a matter of
          displaying lines 6, 7, and 8 instead of just line 6.  As
          far as I know nothing further has happened on this issue.

          As I said, this is a major barcoding and circulation problem
          for OSU.  We discussed a similar fix to the one Stanislas
          has come up with (using a note to direct people to do
          another search to locate the Circulation information) and
          decided not to pursue it because we didn't think the public
          would do the extra search.  Also, this is a situation which
          should receive attention from GEAC.  User friendly systems
          should not require users to do extra searches to get the
          information that they want concerning one book.

          I'd be happy to discuss this further with people interested
          in analytics linking and formulating a strategy to get GEAC
          to resolve this issue.

          Debbie Hackleman   (503) 737-2949
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:13:33 PDT
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From:         Mitch Turitz <turitz@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Reserve Option
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              I003%polytec1.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu

>
> >
> > Please contact Wesley Kyles (415) 338-1882 at San Francisco State
> > about the problems we have been having with the Reserve Book
> > module.
> >
>
> Mitch,
> Does Wesley have an e-mail address? I  also am interested to know
> about the problems because we will implement Reserve at the same time
> of our migration to the ADVANCE system in the fall.
> A posting from Wesley about your problems would also be helpful
> for many, I think.
> contributors!.
> Minh-Thu Nguyen
> Ecole Polytechnique, Montreal
>
Minh-Thu - No, Wesley doesn't have an e-mail address, but he is willing
to share with you the problems we have been having.  I suggest you
call him directly, or fax him your questions (our Fax # is 415-338-6199)
(or ask HIM to have me post his comments for him)

-- Mitch
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.BITNET>
Subject:      uptime/downtime

We just ran our latest report on uptime and downtime and thought others
might be interested.  The report is for the period from August 91, when we
got our DG installed to replace the original Sanyo Icon, until June 30 of
this year.  As the figures indicate, we are VERY happy with the
reliability of our DG machine.  It is a 5000 series machine with 2 RISC
processors, 80mb of ram, 3.3 gb of disk.  It contains all of the records
for BSU and Idaho State Library, handling mainly online catalog and
circulation, with 96 ports.

Downtime, unscheduled
.33 hours in October
2.5 hours in November
3.25 hours in February

Downtime, scheduled
8 hours in August, shortly after installation.

Total downtime for any reason, 14.08 hours.

System available 99.825% of the time in those 11 months.
System available (not counting scheduled downtime) 99.924%.

So, we are quite pleased.

dan

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* Dan Lester                          Bitnet:   alileste@idbsu              *
* Associate University Librarian      Internet: alileste@idbsu.idbsu.edu    *
* Boise State University                                                    *
* Boise, Idaho  83725                 BSU and I have a deal: I don't speak  *
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From:         Mitch Turitz <turitz@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU>
Subject:      Serials 4.0 training
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Is anyone planning on having serials 4.0 training?  (Especially
on the West Coast?)

Please leave me email if you are.  Thanks.

-- Mitch Turitz

"Don't waste time -
 It is the stuff life is made of"


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* Mitch Turitz, Serials Librarian            *
* San Francisco State University Library     *
* 1630 Holloway Ave., S.F., CA  94132        *
* Voice: (415) 338-7883  FAX: (415) 338-6199 *
* Internet: turitz@sfsu.edu                  *
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As usual, should you or any of your opinions
be caught or killed, the library will
disavow any knowledge of your actions.
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Serials 4.0 training

not that i know of.  i saw mitch's note, and your reply.

dan
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From:         turitz@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU
Subject:      Re: ADVANCE and closing the shelflist
X-To:         ADVANC-L%IDBSU.BitNet@pucc.princeton.edu

On 7/23/92 Carol H. Jewell asked:


>
> Here at the University at Albany University Libraries, we are planning a
> migration to ADVANCE. For libraries now using ADVANCE who have closed there
> (oops, their) shelflist, I would appreciate some answers to the following
> questions:
>
> 1. Many of our staff are opposed to closing the shelflist. What has been the
> response of your staff to closing it, and how have you handled the negative
> responses?

Here at San Francisco State University we are still ordering shelf list
cards, and we seriously discussed ceasing the filing of s/l cards, but
we decided that we must continue at least until the database is cleaned
up.  The shelf list is the only authoritative place for resolving
conflicts in the database (we stopped filing cards into the
author/title/ subject catalog two years ago).
>
> 2. We add many handwritten notes to our shelflist cards, particularly for
> serials and sets. Have any of you found a way to get around this, i.e., have
> you been able to add these notes to records on ADVANCE? Please elaborate.
>
Many of the notes, such as "latest in Reference, all earlier editions in
circulating collection" are now routinely put into a 590 note at the
time of cataloging.  The older ones are converted as we come across
them.


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* Mitch Turitz, Serials Librarian            *
* San Francisco State University Library     *
* 1630 Holloway Ave., S.F., CA  94132        *
* Voice: (415) 338-7883  FAX: (415) 338-6199 *
* Internet: turitz@sfsu.edu                  *
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From:         GCOOK@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU
Subject:      Reserve Option

     We at CSUDH are contemplating use of the Reserve Book Room
option of GEAC Advance. Before undertaking this project, we would
like to find out who is using this option and what problems may
have been encountered.  Please reply directly to me.  If there is
any interest, I will summarize for the list.
     Thanks for your help!

Gail Cook
Cal State U. Dominguez Hills
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:33:00 EST
Reply-To:     Magnus Stenbeck <UNCMJS@UNC.BITNET>
From:         Magnus Stenbeck <UNCMJS@UNC.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Test for Difference in Regression Coefficients.

>    Suppose I regress, say, earnings on gender.  I get a regression
> coefficient, b, that (as you know) is the average difference in
> earnings between men and women.
>    Now suppose I regress earnings on gender, occupational status,
> educational attainment, etc., and I get a new regression coefficient
> for gender, b'.  (I understand that b' is now an intercept
> difference between men and women.)
>    The question is: What is the statistical test that tells me
> whether the difference between b and b' is statistically
> significant?

At least one of your models is misspecified. If the first model is
correct, then you should get approximately the same point estimate
for b(gender) and the other b's should not deviate significantly from
zero. If the second model is correct, then the difference between b
and b' is due to the bias in b. There is no test for this except for
the usual criteria for comparing model specifications (which are of
limited usefulness anyway).
The notion that "real b" changed is wrong, only the estimate of b
may change unless you perform a second experiment/analyze a new
dataset. Hence, it doesn't make sense to regard this problem as
testing whether the change in b was significant. The difference
b - b' does not representchange, it represents the (possible)
difference between estimates derived from the wrong and the correct
model. And in practice you wouldn't know that the second model
eliminated the possible bias since you probably don't know
whether the second model is the correct one. Maybe it yields the
same biased estimate as the first model ...?
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From:         "Peter A. Lachenbruch" <IARSPAL@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      nostalgia

I wouldn't dream of making the comment that Nostalgia just ain't what it used
to be.
Tony
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From:         Bill Pooler <RELOOP@SUVM.BITNET>

Tell listserv unsubscribe.  Bill Pooler
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Date: 25 Jul 92 03:52:46 GMT
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I need to get a Windows-based OCR package.  If you have one for sale
please contact me.

Thanks,
Will Estes         Internet: westes@netcom.com 
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:25:00 HST
From:         Sheila Nagamine <T104560@UHCCMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Evaluation Systems

I am interested in hearing of campus-wide faculty/course
evaluation systems currently running at a university.  We
at the University of Hawaii are moving towards conducting
such an evaluation each semester at our approximately
20,000-student campus.

We would like to have a cafeteria, or menu, type of
evaluation system which enables the faculty to customize
their questionnaire with items from an item catalog.

What approach has been taken to develop an evaluation system
at your university?

What computer hardware and software are used in the system,
e.g. computer, operating system, disk, laser printer,
programming language, applications software, etc.?

What scanner hardware and software are used in the system?

How are the following produced -

     item catalog (if any)
     master checklist of faculty/classes in evaluation
     questionnaire request form
     evaluation questionnaire(s)
     evaluation report(s) ?

Any other information that you might have regarding
evaluation systems are welcome.

                  Sheila Nagamine, T104560@UHCCMVS.BITNET
                  University of Hawaii Computing Center
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From:         Dan Precht <DPRECHT@UALTAVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Evaluation Systems

On Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:25:00 HST Sheila Nagamine said:
>I am interested in hearing of campus-wide faculty/course
>evaluation systems currently running at a university.  We
>at the University of Hawaii are moving towards conducting
>such an evaluation each semester at our approximately
>20,000-student campus.
>
Richard I. Miller "Evaluating Faculty for Promotion and
Tenure", Jossey-Bass, San Francisco, 1987 describes several
course evaluation systems including some that involve
cafeteria style development of questionnaires.

The University of Alberta is using the IDQ system (described
in Miller's book) which was written at the U of Michigan,
Ann Arbor.  We've made a number of modifications to the system
including using Xerox 9700 laser printers to generate the
questionnaires.  Although we are continuing to use them, we can
report that cut-sheet laser printers do not do a very satisfactory
job of 'over-printing' on forms--the feed stock that we use already
has timing marks and response positions printed on the forms.

Our version of the IDQ system is written for the MTS (Michigan
Terminal System) operating system.  A fair effort would be required
to install it on another operating system--we're going to have to
undertake that project or switch to a different course evaluation
system in the next year or so since decision makers at our
University are determined to get rid of the MTS system.


                   Dan Precht
                   University of Alberta
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 10:47:43 EDT
From: Peter M. Weiss <PMW1@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: RE: Listserv info needed

In article <9207231911.AA29192@Early-Bird.Think.COM>, nauen@WRAIR-EMH1.ARMY.MIL
says:
>
>> 1.  I was trying to reach the LISTSERV at S.R.I. (Standford Research
>> Institute).  A co-worker has suggested I try sending a message to
>> "mail server@nisc.sri.com" and in the body of the message typing "send
>> netinfo/interest-groups" (without quotes).
>>   I'd supposedly get a 1000 page response listing all the interest
>> groups.  The problem is that he has the address wrong, and I keep
>> getting bounced mail.  Does anyone know at what address I can contact
>> the listserv at SRI?  Thanks!
>> Tom Guenther thomas_guenther@3mail.3com.com alias thg@3com.com
>
>I believe the address is mail-server@nisc.sri.com, but if not, I suppose
>that postmaster@nisc.sri.com could provide the best help.  I don't
>think it's a LISTSERV, which I've always thought was unique to BITNET,
>though it may work the same way.

There is a (obsolete) shadow copy of this stored as a Revised Listserv
searchable Database on NDSUVM1 (vm1.nodak.edu).  To retrieve the
instructions that tells/scripts you how to do this, send to: LISTSERV
at that address:

           GET LISTSOF LISTS

(it is maintained by Marty Hoag.)

>> 2.  Question #1 made me think of this question:  Is there a list
>> somewhere of LISTSERV hosts?
>
>At one time there was a file called BITNET SERVERS available from
>listserv@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu, but when I recently tried to get a
>current version I was informed that it no longer existed.  It might
>be available elsewhere, such as from listserv@bitnic.educom.edu.

It IS available there but is somewhat obsolete (6/15/91) and contains
info on more just Revised Listservs.

>I don't think that such a file would show the server @ nisc.sri.com.

It is possible to find all Revised Listserv sites (and maybe ListEARN
too?) by using Listserv Database search commands against the PEERS
database that is stored at each Listserv site.

        //ListSrch JOB Echo=no
        Database Search DD=Rules
        //Rules DD *
        S * IN PEERS
        INDEX

>Ric

/Pete Weiss - Penn State U
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:42:48 EDT
From: Peter M. Weiss <PMW1@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: RE: CREN

In article <9207311444.AA13354@Early-Bird.Think.COM>, nauen@WRAIR-EMH1.ARMY.MIL
says:

>> Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 92 12:41:14 GMT
>> From: Mauro Motta <MOTTAM%IMIHSRA.BITNET@icnucevm.cnuce.cnr.it>
>>
>> I have been using e-mail and various kinds of info servers for some time,
>> but I still don't know exactly what CREN and CSNET are.
>>
>> Maybe I shouldn't care, since I live in Italy.
>> Anyway, would you be so kind to satisfy my curiosity?
>>
>> BTW, would someone clarify the meaning of such obscure acronyms as
>> CAREN, ANSP, HARNET, SCARNET?
>>
>> If you think this is only a boring FAQ, please reply directly to
>> mottam@imihsra.bitnet or mottam@hsr.it.  Thanks in advance.  Mauro

>If you send mail

(...)

Other info about these and similar networks may be had by first
sending RFC822 mail to: listserv@bitnic.educom.edu with a body-of-
test message of::

         INDEX NETINFO

When you get that file back, peruse it and then send another note
to the same address but this time with:

         GET fn ft NETINFO

e.g.,

         GET  CAREN    NET_USE  NETINFO
         GET  CAREN    STRUCTUR NETINFO

/Pete
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Subject:      RE: AVdoor and/or Avatar
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> Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 92 14:41:55 CDT
> From: Triclad King Ophite <TJW653S@vma.smsu.edu>
>
> I am trying to get ahold of the author of AVDoor.  He is supposedly
> at these addresses:
>
>                     199:4242/1@RainbowNet
>                     3:632/358@FidoNet
>                     58:4100/32@INTLnet
>                     avatar@csource.oz.au
>
> It would be greatly appreciated if you could give me some assistance in
> reaching this person.

Use the last address as is.  If it doesn't work, coordinate with your
local postmaster, or come back to Info-Nets with a copy of what happened.

Or ask your neighbor, Ian Davis aka Feaelin Moilar <IED077S@vma.smsu.edu>,
for a copy of the information I just sent him about sending to FidoNet.

Ric
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From:         Postmaster <Piete.Brooks@CL.CAM.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Host Unknown blues
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              23 Jul 92 16:00:00 -0700. <2A6ED790@pcmail.inre.asu.edu>

> From: khatri <khatri@pcmail.inre.asu.edu>

> Trying to address the following,
>  VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU unable to deliver following mail to recipient(s):
>      <user@CU.WARWICK.AC.UK>
>  550 Host 'CU.WARWICK.AC.UK' Unknown
* Why ? An old address that you had ?

> I found out from NSLookup that "No 'any' (ANY) records available for
> CU.WARWICK.AC.UK."
* It's safer to explicitly ask for MX and then ask for A RRs if you don'y see
* any ANY.

* However, in this case, there really are none. Grab the warwick.ac.uk zone and
* have a browse. I found:

mail.cu.warwick.ac.uk. IN CNAME nettle.csv.warwick.ac.uk.
news.cu.warwick.ac.uk. IN CNAME nettle.csv.warwick.ac.uk.

* as the only RRs containing cu.warwick.ac.uk -- so your result is as expected
* as cu is an un-delegated domain with no RRs.
* In fact, it gives you the whole answer there -- looks to me like
* cu.warwick.ac.uk has moved over to csv.warwick.ac.uk ...

* Problem solved !


> Pray tell, what does that mean?
* As above, an un-delegated domain with no RRs as it contains just a couple of
* CNAMEs.

> What do we do now?
* Had the problem not been solved, I would have:
*	1) gone up a level & mailed "postmaster@warwick.ac.uk"
*	2) if that failed, use the email address from the enclosing SOA, e.g.

% dig xx.cu.warwick.ac.uk

; <<>> DiG 2.0 <<>> xx.cu.warwick.ac.uk
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY , status: NXDOMAIN, id: 6
;; flags: qr aa rd ra ; Ques: 1, Ans: 0, Auth: 1, Addit: 0
;; QUESTIONS:
;;      xx.cu.warwick.ac.uk, type = A, class = IN

;; AUTHORITY RECORDS:
warwick.ac.uk.  86400 SOA  orchid.csv.warwick.ac.uk. hostmaster.warwick.ac.uk. (
                        1992072344      ;serial
                        14400   ;refresh
                        3600    ;retry
                        604800  ;expire
...

% host csv.warwick
csv.warwick.ac.uk              mail is handled by orchid.csv.warwick.ac.uk
csv.warwick.ac.uk              mail is handled by nettle.csv.warwick.ac.uk
csv.warwick.ac.uk              mail is handled by clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk
csv.warwick.ac.uk              mail is handled by nsfnet-relay.ac.uk
csv.warwick.ac.uk              mail is handled by sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk
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