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From: 1ECRGMDL36@strathost.stratcom.af.mil (1ECRGMDL36)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Mod for ICOM Handheld
Date: 12 Aug 1992 12:04:58 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

I'm looking for an Extended Frequency Range mod for an ICOM IC-02at handheld
(serial #17920).  Also, is there any mod's for a Radio Shack PRO-34 scanner?
If anyone has any info on these mod's I would greatly appreciat hearing from
you. Thanks

Allen McGuire
C/O Holiday Inn Room 257
1450 Riverbend Dr.
Douglas WY. 82633
Phone: Work (307)-358-2811
       Home (307)-358-9790 ext 257
FAX: (307)-358-2803


From: michaeln@hpcvnb.CV.HP.COM (Mike_Nason)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 02:23:28 PDT
Subject: Re: Orbiting FM Repeater ?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, Oregon
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

    the satellite with the crossband fm repeater is AO-21. I don't have the
uplink frequency with me but it is not on a 5 khz step so you have to 
fudge alittle with a fm only dual band rig. I have listened to people using
it. so use omni antennas and some us beams. the ones i was listening to were
using beams and commenting on how much better it was over the omni's. 
AO-21 also known as RS14. 
                   mike nason ka7hbb

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: rdewan@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Rajiv Dewan)
Subject: GAP vertical antenna
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:07:33 GMT

Is the GAP antenna an elevated monopole?

I have not examined the antenna in detail - just a cursory glance at
Dayton.  It seems to be an elevated monopole with a cage to make it
broad-banded. 

The center portion of an elevated monopole, as described in Jasik's
Antenna Handbook, (and others too) is shown below.  The bottom 
mast is grounded at the bottom.  The mast may be surrounded by 
a cage to make it broadbanded.  Further, an impedance matching 
tranformer may be part of the feedpoint and located inside the mast.

                                                               
                                                               
                        |        |    top mast                 
                        |        |                             
                        |        |                             
                        |    +---|                             
                        |    |   |                             
                        I    |   I    insulator                
                        |   |||--|                             
                        |   |||  |                             
                        |   |||  |
                        |   |||  |                             
                        |   |||<---- coax feed line            
                        |   |||  |                            
                        |   |||  |<- lower mast - grounded at bottom

Also from the Antenna Hanbook, the broadbanded version may have frequency
range of 4:1 and it does not require radials.  Its principle of operation
is not dissimilar from that of a discone.

From the GAP antenna brochure, the Challenger VI (?) works on 40-10 (except
30) and on a portion of 80.  On the 80m band it requires radials and may
be working in a simple monopole mode.  The basic frequency range, other than
operation in a portion of the 80m band, seems to agree with the 
characteristics of an elevated monopole.

So is the GAP antenna a broadbanded elevated monopole?

BTW, I am interested in hearing about other commercial, seemingly complex,
antennas.  The Butternut HF2V is an interesting design too with cleverly
designed traps.  But that is another story.

I would like to hear your thoughts.

Rajiv                                 
aa9ch    
Address: r-dewan@nwu.edu
Phone:   None. Only CW.


Note:  It is not my intention to infringe on the rights of GAP Antenna 
Products Co.  I do not own a GAP antenna, have never physically touched 
one and probably may never own one.  My only interest is in understanding how
these antennas work.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: pitonyak@cis.ohio-state.edu (Andrew Pitonyak)
Subject: How do I view RF output?
Originator: pitonyak@mostaccioli.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 05:19:13 GMT


How exactly can I hook up my oscilliscope to view the
signal from my HF, VHF and UHF equipment.  I am not
very knowledgable as to the use of an oscilliscope
but it seems to me that hooking the RF output directly 
to the oscilliscope inputs would be very bad.

thanks in advance.

andy  (pitonyak@cis.ohio-state.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: how to open FNB-4 battery pack?
From: fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie)
Date: 21 Aug 92 09:40:16 EST
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Distribution: na
Organization: NASA/Kennedy Space Center, Florida

In article <l97f8gINN27g@news.bbn.com>, jmccombi@testament.bbn.com (Jon
McCombie) wrote:
> In the back of QST I see ads for companies selling battery "inserts." I
> assume this is just a new battery set to go into an existing pack, yes?
> My only
> problem is figuring out how to get the battery pack case open without
> taking a saw to it.

Jon-

Your chances of getting the glued case open without making a mess are not
so good.  The companies selling refills for old battery packs, also sell
new battery packs that are cheaper than the original equipment.  I suggest
getting one or more of these.  If the replacement pack can be easily
opened, replacing cells will be possible at a later date.

fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov
From: flloyd@L1-A.West.Sun.COM (Fred Lloyd [Phoenix SE])
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 1992 Ham Census (unofficial)
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:53:12 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Phoenix, AZ
NNTP-Posting-Host: l1-a.west.sun.com


Number of Licensed Amateur Radio Operators by State
Compiled from the June 1992 Callsign Database and the 1990 US Census

    	State	Hams	Population	Hams/1000 People

1	CA	84935	29,760,021	2.85
2	FL	35316	12,937,926	2.73
3	TX	33668	16,986,510	1.98
4	NY	31788	17,990,455	1.77
5	OH	26467	10,847,115	2.44
6	PA	21748	11,881,643	1.83
7	IL	21229	11,430,602	1.86
8	WA	18795	 4,866,692	3.86	*
9	MI	17759	 9,295,297	1.91
10	NJ	15577	 7,730,188	2.02
11	MA	14164	 6,016,425	2.35
12	VA	13577	 6,187,358	2.19
13	NC	12807	 6,628,637	1.93
14	IN	12665	 5,544,159	2.28
15	GA	11331	 6,478,216	1.75
16	AZ	10926	 3,665,228	2.98
17	TN	10828	 4,877,185	2.22
18	MO	10295	 5,117,073	2.01
19	OR	10196	 2,842,321	3.59	*
20	MD	10140	 4,781,468	2.12
21	CO	9092	 3,294,394	2.76
22	MN	9039	 4,375,099	2.07
23	WI	8614	 4,891,769	1.76
24	AL	8218	 4,040,587	2.03
25	CT	8200	 3,287,116	2.49
26	PR	7542	Puerto Rico
27	OK	7179	 3,145,585	2.28
28	KY	6528	 3,685,296	1.77
29	LA	6279	 4,219,973	1.49
30	IA	6099	 2,776,755	2.20
31	KS	5994	 2,477,574	2.42
32	SC	5107	 3,486,703	1.46
33	AR	4718	 2,350,725	2.01
34	UT	4628	 1,722,850	2.69
35	WV	4449	 1,793,477	2.48
36	NH	3914	 1,109,252	3.53	*
37	MS	3744	 2,573,216	1.45
38	NM	3725	 1,515,069	2.46
39	ME	3604	 1,227,928	2.94
40	NE	3496	 N/A
41	NV	2945	 1,201,833	2.45
42	HI	2841	 1,108,229	2.56
43	ID	2735	 1,006,749	2.72
44	AK	2532	   550,043	4.60	**
45	RI	2211	 1,003,464	2.20
46	MT	2146	   799,065	2.69
47	VT	1605	   562,758	2.85
48	ND	1353	   638,800	2.69
49	SD	1343	   696,004	1.93
50	DE	1289	   666,168	1.93
51	WY	1276	   453,588	2.81
52	DC	477	   606,900	0.79	**
53	GU	366	Guam
54	VI	292	US Virgin Islands
55	AE	68	Armed Forces (APO)
56	AP	62	Armed Forces (APO)
57	MP	46	Saipan
58	AS	25	Pago Pago
59	UM	18	Wake Island
60	AA	13	Armed Forces (APO)

Notes:

The number of hams in each state reflects those whose licenses
show that state as their mailing address - actual location may vary.


-- 
| Fred Lloyd  AA7BQ,  Systems Engineer          Fred.Lloyd@west.sun.com |
| Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation                   ...sun!flloyd |
| Phoenix, AZ    (If it's a fact, I believe it!)         (602) 275-4242 |
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jreese@NeoSoft.com (Jim Reese)
Subject: Re: Tinkering vs. engineering (was Re: QST Content Revisited)
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:00:01 GMT

'scuse me for butting in here, but I know the individual in
question...

In article <1992Aug13.033623.1507@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
>...noise and Nintendo games on their digital display. There's a certain
>elegance to a HT200 that's missing from today's digital scanners that
>try to masquerade as *radios*.

The only elegance an HT200 has is that it takes both hands to hold it
up! :-)

I think what Jay is trying to say is that some "engineering" is done
simply for the sake of engineering, not to make the product any
better, only more elegant.

I see the same effects in the broadcast world.  I've got two shiny new
25kW transmitters that have neat CMOS controllers.  When the lightning
flies, these units choke big time...while my 20 year old klunker
backup full of latching relays comes up every time.  Is the CMOS
controller better?  Probably.  Is it more elegant?  Definately.  Is 
it more reliable?  No.

The point is, there's a place for elegant engineering, and a place for
brute force and ignorance.

-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Jim Reese, WD5IYT            |   "If at first you don't succeed...
     jreese@sugar.neosoft.com        |        Use a bigger hammer!"
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.com (Jim Reisert, AD1C)
Subject: Re: 9D - Legitimate Operation?
Keywords: 9D0RR,9D2RR
Reply-To: reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.com (Jim Reisert)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation -- Maynard, MA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:17:18 GMT


In article <1992Aug12.134507.2615@worldbank.org>, dearnsha@wizard.worldbank.org writes:

> Two stations have recently been reported signing the 9D prefix. The
> stations were: 9D2RR on SSB, and 9D0RR on CW.

I have not heard a station signing 9D2RR, perhaps it was reported
incorrectly.  The correct callsign is 9D0RR, both CW and SSB.  Yes, it
is Romeo of XY0RR fame, etc.  As with most DXpeditions, final
'legitimacy' is determined by the DX Awards Committee, and depends not
only on obtaining a valid license, but actually showing proof of entry
to and exit from the country.  No doubt Romeo has this permission, he
has been good about this in the past.  Ed, NT2X (Romeo's liason in
USA), has had no negative reaction to the expedition.  However, as
with all DX, work first, worry later.

73 - Jim AD1C

--
James J. Reisert                Internet:  reisert@sttng.enet.dec.com
Digital Equipment Corp.         UUCP:      ...decwrl!sttng.enet!reisert
146 Main Street			Voice:     508-493-5747
Maynard, MA  01754		FAX:       508-493-0395
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: dplumb@cix.compulink.co.uk (Dave Plumb)
Subject: FT211RH Odd Repeater Shift              
Cc: dplumb@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: dplumb@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:00:10 +0000

A question... I have an FT211RH. On this radio, you have either a standard 
600kHz repeater shift, or a programmable tx/rx on all channels. Fine for the 
UK, but I understand in France (where I may be holidaying shortly) they use 
some odd offset system. 
 
The FT211RH manual mentions nothing about reprogramming the 600kHz split, but 
on a quick reference card, this is mentioned: 
 
> Program Standard Repeater Offset 
> Turn power off. Hold [RPT] while turning power back on. Tune display to 
> offset, and press [RPT] to return to normal. 
No matter how many times I've tried this, on the FT211RH or my FT23R (which 
has the same processor, buttons, and physically works the same) it just 
actions the "RPT" press by either putting a -600kHz or +600kHz shift on. Has 
anyone managed this, and does it require the addition of a link to enable 
this? 
 
73, Dave Plumb |||||| G7MIL @ GB7HSN #32.GBR.EU
From: brianm@hprnd.rose.hp.com (Brian Mahaffy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Empire of the Radio (PBS)
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:40:48 GMT
Organization: HP Roseville Networks Division

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White) writes:

    paper airplane.  The book from which the PBS
    film was derived, also called Empire of the Air,
    goes into considerable detail on this issue.

Anyone have any more detail (Publisher, Author, ISBN) about the book 
mentioned above?  It's sounds like interesting reading and I would like
to see if a local bookstore has it.

Thanks.....73 N6UGP
_______________________________________________________________________
Brian Mahaffy      Hewlett/Packard | Any sufficiently advanced  
Roseville Networks Division        | technology, is indistinguishable
brianm@hprnd.rose.hp.com           | from Magic! 
N6UGP @ WA6NWE-1   (916)785-5633   |                    Arthur C. Clark
___________________________________|___________________________________
"They, that can give up essential liberty, to obtain a little temporary
 safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin 1759
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: bryanw@IASTATE.EDU (Bryan J Welch)
Subject: 580 problems?
Keywords: Alinco 580
Reply-To: bryanw@IASTATE.EDU (Bryan J Welch)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:54:12 GMT

I saw a few posts a week or so ago about problems with the Alinco 580T.  
Were there any conclusions regarding bugs or problems with this model?
I just bought one and am happy with it, but I want to know if I should 
be aware of anything in particular.  The only possible bug I found was that
when I'm running it off DC in my car the handheld gets rather hot, almost
to the point where I can't hold it.

thanks,

Bryan Welch
N0SFG



Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: tlc20700@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Thomas L. Carney)
Subject: Re: Cellular Frequencies
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:46:41 GMT

jab0684@usl.edu (Boudreaux Jean A) writes:



>As far tas the morality of listening to these calls goes, that's something
>that you'll have to decide for yourself.  But, remember that these
>people are transmitting their calls to the world everytime they 
>pick up the phone.  If they are unaware of this, it is due to their
>own neglegence/stupidty.

Actually, I don't think it's all negligence/stupidity...  how many
cellular users actually know how it works??  How many of the cellular
users even care how it works?  Many of them are yuppies, and not
radio/tech/engineering types.  If they knew how it works, and knew
how easy it is to tap, they wouldn't be so careless.  The cellular
vendors "assure" their customers that cellular communications are safe,
when in actuality they are not.  You can thank Stuart Crump, Jr., and
his cronies for lobbying the hell out of Congress for passing the 
Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1986, the greatest legal joke
and most unenforceable law to come out of the Goon Squad on Capitol
Hill.

Tom
U of I doesn't care about my opinions.***
From: wws@craywr.cray.com (Walter Spector)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: WANTED:Filters for Drake R4C
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:37:25 GMT
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.

In article <1992Aug20.091830.1@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi>, palaukkanen@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi writes:
|> WANTED!
|> 
|> If someone have extra 500 Hz cw filter for Drake R4C and he/she is willing to
|> sell it I would be very interested. I am also looking for USB and LSB filters
|> for T4C (same filters are also in T4X and T4B).

You might try Drake themselves.  I bought an AM filter (serial #12!) from them
a couple of years ago.  (They charged me 30 bucks.)  Drake still stocks many
parts for these radios.

Two other places to look are Sherwood Engineering in Denver, Colorado
and a place down in Florida which sells 'Fox Tango' filters (I forget
their name but they advertise in QST.)  Both make many wonderful claims
about their filters.  Sherwood also offers lots of interesting modifications
for the R-4C - be sure to get their catalog.

Walt
-- 
Walt Spector
(wws@renaissance.cray.com)
Sunnyvale, California
_._ _._ _.... _. ._.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: kwfriber@mtu.edu (Kenberg Frieth)
Subject: Re: Orbiting FM Repeater ?
Keywords: satellite
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 00:23:26 GMT

In article <77558@ut-emx.uucp> wdlee@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (david lee) writes:
>Netfolks,
> My buddy just told me about an FM repeater on board a satellite.
>He said the uplink freq. is near 430 MHz, and the downlink
>is 145.985 MHz. What is the designation of this satellite?
>I need to look up its orbital elements in the NORAD lists.
>Do you know the designation? or the exact uplink freq?

Oscar-21 was running one experimentally for a while.  I don't have the freq's,
but it was 430something up and 2m down.  It *was* doing FM for the first 4
minutes out of every 10, but that could have changed.  A friend of mine heard
and thought he was getting a band opening until he realized that he was
hearign new york from traverse city MI.  He was just listening with a 2m
J-pole.

73 de Ken n8pbe
From: ron@pilot.njin.net (Ron Natalie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Cellular Frequencies
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:35:46 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

> Well, my sister the attorney as well as a recent issue of Popular 
> Communications assures me that it is currently legal to listen
> to cellular phone frequencies.

With all due courtesy to your sister, this is bunk.  As for Popular
Communications, this is a sham magazine.  All the articles and even
the letters to the editor are written by one person under a variety
of pseudonyms.

> She says that the Supreme Court
> has consistetly upheld the right of people to listen to anything
> that they can receive.

That may be so, but the EPCA is still part of the US Code.  This means
you can get arrested for violating it, you can appeal it to the
Supreme Court to test out your sisters assertion, but you're probably
going to endure a lot of expense and grief doing so.

> P. Comm. also mentions proposed legal changes 
> which would limit the ability of police to tape cellular communications.
>  This would give them the same status as landline phones
> in terms of getting permission to 'tap' them and use them as evidence, but
> only as far as police are concerned.

Doesn't need any "proposed" changes.  The EPCA makes cellular
wiretapping as bad as regular wiretapping.  The police are no longer
able to assert that there is no expectation of privacy, cellular "wiretap"
evidence has already thrown out as a result.

-Ron
From: tedwards@src.umd.edu (Thomas Grant Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Bottom of 10 Meters....
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:12:17 GMT
Organization: Systems Research Center, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park

In article <564@bongo.UUCP> julian@bongo.info.com (Julian Macassey) writes:
>In article <9208071938.AA17416@netmail.microsoft.com> mikemr@microsoft.COM (Michael Mraz) writes:
>>I believe that the FCC has started to issue some hefty fines (>$5000)
>>to some of these "freebanders." Spread the word.
>	Wait a minute. You "believe"? Now this sounds to me like a
>perfect rumour. Before we "Spread the word", we should find out some
>facts:

The W5YI newsletter often contains stories about FCC actions against
those operating illegally.

That would be the place to look.

de N3HAU
From: summers@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Jim B. Summers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FT-470 Mod Fix - sniffer !!!!
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:38:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpspkla.30690016
Organization: Hewlett Packard Company, Spokane, Wa.



> Wrap the HT with about 10 turns of insulated wire around the
> case.  Connect this to a piece of coax connected to the receiver.
> With the HT on, enough signal should leak out to be detected
> as a tone in the SSB position.  Tune to the old and new IF
> frequencies, and listen.  You will hear the osc. singing !!!!

The oscillator you will here will not be at the IF frequency.  It will
be the second LO which will be at a frequency that is the difference
between the first and second IF frequencies.  If the radio has not
been modified (original 17.3 MHz first IF) you should find this signal
at 16.845 MHz.  If the radio has been modified it will be at 21.245 MHz.

Another idea would be to listen for the first LO with a scanner receiver.
If you program the receive frequency to 144 MHz, you should hear a signal
at 165.7 MHz if the radio has been modified.  Otherwise it will be at
161.3 MHz.  The 470 will need to be near the scanner antenna of course.

Jim Summers, KD7F
summers@hpspkla.spk.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: rossi@gvlf9-q.gvl.unisys.com (Pete Rossi)
Subject: Re: Cellular Frequencies
Keywords: cellular, legal
Organization: Paramax Systems Corp (A Unisys Company), Great Valley Labs, PA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:12:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.040440.19793@cs.wisc.edu> gopher@yar.cs.wisc.edu (Chris Bovitz) writes:
>In article <1568@anagld.analytics.com> sammy@anagld.analytics.com (Sam Blackburn) writes:
>>This may be a FAQ, but is tuning in to cellular frequencies legal?  I had
>>thought that listening to the freqs was legal but you couldn't record them
>>or anything like that.  I thought that anything transmitted was legal to 
>>listen to.  I'm just struggling with a little moral question...
>
>As far as I know, listening to cellular freqs is illegal.  However,
>listening in on cordless phones isn't, as long as you keep what you
>hear to yourself.  

Hmmmm..  Let's see if I got this right.....

It`s illegal to *listen* to cellular frequencies, but it is OK for your
radio to *scan* through the cellular frequencies??   Just don't *listen*
to anything you may hear.     Yep.. That must be it!   :-)  :-)  :-)

----
From: wdlee@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (david lee)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Orbiting FM Repeater ?
Keywords: satellite
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:56:36 GMT
Reply-To: wdlee@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (david lee)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin

Netfolks,
 My buddy just told me about an FM repeater on board a satellite.
He said the uplink freq. is near 430 MHz, and the downlink
is 145.985 MHz. What is the designation of this satellite?
I need to look up its orbital elements in the NORAD lists.
Do you know the designation? or the exact uplink freq?
Thanks!
David, N5TLZ
reply to:
david@moe.ece.utexas.edu
From: William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.CR.rockwell.COM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: QST, in my opinion...
Date: 19 Aug 1992 12:13:17 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

>So how many of you are planning to attend the ARRL National Convention
>and make your views known to whichever ARRL officials are brave enough
>to show up?
 
I do plan to talk to the ARRL folks that show up at the Melbourne (FL) hamfest
(usually at least Evelyn Gauzens and Frank Butler -- even Jon Bloom's been 
down here (except this year meetings will be at the Hilton instead of the 
dumpy old Ramada Inn)).  It seems like the best time to do this is late 
saturday or early sunday when things are not as busy.

<entering Marlin Perkins Mode>...Melbourne Hamfest, September 12/13 at the 
Melbourne Auditorium plus a free to attend and free to set up outdoor swap 
area.  Don't forget the Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Unbanquet at 
Ryan's Steak House on Saturday at 7 PM.

bill wb9ivr%pubs%genav.mlb@ns14.cca.cr.rockwell.com
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