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From: dth2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (David T Ho)
Subject: Help me stay warm and fuzzy--FLEECE!!!!
Reply-To: dth2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (David T Ho)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 01:22:03 GMT


I want to purchase a fleece jacket to zip into my North Face shell.  I
was considering between North Face and Patagoina.  Anyone have any
input?  Thanks.



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David T. Ho                       
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From: bdm@druwa.ATT.COM (Brian Millham)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Legal Tender???
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:33:46 GMT
Distribution: usa

in article <1992Dec16.170956.27932@almserv.uucp>, gaubfb@sun330 (Brian Bishop) says:

} Recently they have added a few protections on the higher denominations (mainly
} to foil good color copiers, which are increasingly common), such as: the
} border around the portrait is now micro-printing "United States of America" 
} instead of a solid line, and they have a nylon thread vertically about 1/3 
} from the left edge that reads USA and the denominmation. This stuff is visible
} to the eye on newer 100's (not sure about 50's). Hold the bill up to the light 
} to see the embedded thread.

Yes, the thread and the micro-printing is on 50's.
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Newsgroups: misc.consumers,misc.misc,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.ibm.pc
From: hshubs@cis.umassd.edu (Howard S Shubs)
Subject: Re: PRODIGY New and improved STILL SUCKS, HORRIBLE as before
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 07:44:35 GMT

In <1992Dec17.075003.3502@news.acns.nwu.edu> alasnik@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Adam Lasnik) writes:

>In <zkessin.724555976@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> zkessin@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Zach, the Lego Maniac) writes:

>>DON'T use Prodigy, well not unless you dont care that other people may
>>be snooping on *YOUR* files. I just read on alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
>>something about Prodigy uploading stuff from peoples HD's. I think the
>>EFF has more info.

>The perception, in part, was caused by dos-idiots noticing "pieces of their
>text files" embedded in a cache file created by Prodigy.  The "pieces of info"
>were just deleted text segments that DOS took over when a new file was
>created.  Forgive me for my inelegant response.  I'm paying long distance
>costs to access this, so I'm not gonna try to go into more detail.

Have you ever re-used a black board?  Some of it has been used, so you use
another part, right?  That's what seems to happen with Prodigy <gag>.
They create a large file to hold temporary data, but they don't bother
to "erase the board" until they need part of it.  When they need to write
something, they just over-write whatever is already there.  No biggie.  My
feeling is that this is not a reason to not use Prodigy.

There are plenty of -other- reasons to not use Prodigy.  I gave them a shot
when they first ported to the Macintosh.  The interface was horrible, and
their program couldn't co-exist with other things on my machine.  So I tossed
it the heck out.

Later, they sent me a "we've changed, give us another try" mailing.  I did.
I could not detect a significant difference.  The software ran with Multi-
Finder, but it still took over and had that horrible slow interface, and
had commercials for things I'd never need, and services I to this day see
no purpose in paying extra for just to use them via Prodigy.

I can use a travel agent.  I don't trust Sears with my banking information,
let alone IBM.  I can do my own food shopping.  I have access to Internet,
and I don't need someone checking each posting I make for its acceptibility
to TPTB.

I echo the message of an earlier poster (scasterg@waltham.columbus.oh.us)
and ask why we should use Prodigy and pay through the nose to have less
service than we already do.


>P.S. Methinks Imran holds stock in Compu$erve.

Could be... he didn't have a disclaimer about that.


>Prodigy has:
>---stronger and more utilized bulletin boards

Than Internet?  That's very funny.


>--More services offered for a flat fee

Again, than Internet?


>--Plans to open an internet connection within 3 months.

I wonder if they're going to try to review every message to and from the
Internet, and how much extra they're going to charge for the service.
From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Legal Tender???
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:22:28 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Dec14.162109.6136@research.nj.nec.com> damon@syl.syl.nj.nec.com (Damon Antos) writes:
>
>Another major problem here is counterfeit bills.  Counterfeiters do not
>usually mess with $20 denominations and under.  If you accept a counterfeit
>bill [and turn it in to the police, the correct thing to do,] you are
>out $50 or $100!
   
   Counterfeit is turned over to the Secret Service.  And it's
   fairly easy to spot a phony 100 these days.  If it's a recent
   series, hold it up to the light and look for the imbedded strip
   across the bill under the left serial number which says "USA 100"
   alternately right side up and upside down.  
   .


Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: jayaram@watson.ibm.com (Mohan Jayaram)
Subject:  Bread Makers
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:54:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

What are the features/functions one should look for in a 	
Bread Machine? Any recommendations on good models from a
price or value viewpoint would be appreciated. If this topic
has already been discussed on the net would someone kindly
e-mail me the summary? Thanks!
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,misc.misc,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.ibm.pc
From: danw@uh.msc.edu (Dan Waylonis)
Subject: Re: PRODIGY New and improved STILL SUCKS, HORRIBLE as before
Organization: Minnesota Supercomputer Ctr.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:46:58 GMT

Hi,

Yes, Prodigy's interfaces STILL settles for the lowest common denominator
(read:  MSDOS) in terms of graphics, buttons, text, etc.  It also "takes"
over the display on the mac (why didn't they just open a window?).

One improvement, though, is that 9600 baud service is available (in most
cities) for an additional $2-3/mo.

Dan
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From: joe@bulldog.sybase.com (Joseph Weinstein)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Where to get Personalized Licence frames?
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:40:08 GMT
Reply-To: joe@bulldog.sybase.com (Joseph Weinstein)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

I would like to find somewhere that will imprint a
personalized message on a licence frame. I only need
a couple.

thanks for any tips. I saw such a place once at the
Boardwalk in Santa Cruz, Ca. but I'd prefer to order
by mail.
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                  disclaim thee!
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: damon@syl.syl.nj.nec.com (Damon Antos)
Subject: Re: Legal Tender???
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 16:21:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.081824.26411@ads.com> henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:
>tzs@carson.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith) wrote: 
>->	....  Perhaps they will reconsider
>->	and let you pay with that large bill.
>
>cute ... but the real problem is that, while they'd be happy to take
>your money, there simply is not enough cash available to the attendant
>to make your change.  if you see the sign and insist on paying with a
>large denomination banknote then it is likely you will not be able to
>get change (immediately ... other customers may have to be served
>before enough cash is accumulated  to change your note).

Another major problem here is counterfeit bills.  Counterfeiters do not
usually mess with $20 denominations and under.  If you accept a counterfeit
bill [and turn it in to the police, the correct thing to do,] you are
out $50 or $100!
-- 

..damon
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Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Subject: Re: OK..why shouldnt I get an extended car warranty?
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 06:58:49 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.
Distribution: na


>>Yeah, I turned it down.  But they will be "giving me another chance" to
>>take it when I pick up the car.  I wonder how many other chances will I
>>get afterwards?

You need to consider the deal.  Extended warranties can be a godsend
if properly negotiated and priced.  A personal example comes
to mind.  My mom bought a Lincoln a few years ago against my
strenuous advice.  So far this thing has puked about $5k worth of
electronics including 2 digital dashboards.  All covered by the 
Ford extended warranty.  Similar results with their Ford truck.

The key is being an informed buyer.  Since my family is well-connected,
we knew what to beat 'em up for.  

Dealers pay about $50 for the OEM policies they sell.  Aftermarket
policies are similar.  Pay accordingly.  If you've already signed 
the papers on the car, you're in a REAL BAD negotiating position since you've 
already bought the car.  The ideal plan is to negotiate everything else and 
get a price and then make the deal hinge on them selling you a 5 year 
extended warranty for $100 more.

Salesmen typically get bonused according
to how they sell the policy.  High deductable and high price 
are the goals, as are co-active policies.  this last one is a real
kicker.  If you don't watch the slime pretty close, they'll set the
policy up so it runs in parallel with the factory warranty instead
of taking up when the OEM warranty expires.  So instead of getting
5 more years, you get 2, assuming your OEM warranty is 2 years.

There are OEM extended warranties, backed by the factory and there
are aftermarket warranties sold by everyone from ordinary insurance
agents to hair stylists (No shit, my old hair cutter also sells 
extended warranties!)  Both have features and drawbacks.  With the
OEM warranty, all you do is present your warranty card to the dealer
and your problems are (hopefully) fixed.  Problem is you have to
find an open dealer.  Big problem in the middle of the night in
Bumfuck Egypt.  The independents will typically reimburse you for repairs
anywhere but you do have to pony up the money to bail the car out of
the auto hospital.

The other question, of course, is how long you're going to keep the
car.  Forget about resale price augmentation.  If anything the buyer
will be glad to get the free warranty :-)   Make sure, of course,
that any warranty you buy covers everything.  With the price of failure
of any of a variety of modules on modern cars being what they are,
a prudently negotiated extended warranty is a good idea to think about.

John
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Newsgroups: misc.consumers,misc.education
From: eeng@tc.fluke.COM (Ed Eng)
Subject: Re: D O E S A M E R I C A S A Y Y E S T O J A P A N ?
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:26:46 GMT

In article <Bz10xF.7LG@cs.uiuc.edu> watanabe@cs.uiuc.edu (Larry Watanabe) writes:
>
>It's not surprising that they are "more" educated. I would
>estimate that they spend about 25% more time on education
>than Americans. I'm not sure they're as "efficiently"
>educated. Japan seems to currently be working on the quality
>of their education system; I think we need to work
>on the quantity as well as quality.
>

I'm not going to get in the argument about which school system is better, but
Japanese students definitely go to school more.  It was just recently that
public school students were allowed to have 1 Saturday off per month (Saturdays
are half days).  Their school year is also about 4 weeks longer than here.
That does calculate to be about 25%.  You could argue that its quality not
quantity, but IMHO regardless of quality, more quantity is a good thing.
Kind of like sex. 
Xref: sparky misc.consumers:20937 alt.visa.us:760
From: tinkess@cambridge (Randall Tinkess)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,alt.visa.us
Subject: Re: Can one be denied insurance based on citizenship?
Date: 18 Dec 92 23:32:20 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: mitchell.com

shekar@bnr.ca (Shekar Benakatti) writes:

>I was recently denied Insurance because I am not a citizen
>of USA, but a permanent resident.  I have been informed that
>they cannot legally do this to a permanent resident just
>because he is not a citizen.  Does anyone know what I can
>do?  The insurance company is refusing to put this in
>writing.

>I wonder if one day a grocery store refuses to sell me food
>because I told them that I am not a citizen?
>   
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>  Bell-Northern Research   |  EMail: shekar@bnr.ca            
>  Richardson TX 75083      |  Phone: (214)-684-4795 (ESN 444) 
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

That insurance company is full of crap. I purchased and received full 
insurance coverage immediately upon entry into this country and my 
coverage was 100% for the full time when I was simply on a work visa. 
This includes home (apartment), auto and life insurance.

Now I am a permanent resident and there has been no change to my 
insurance. Look for another insurance company...they're obviously 
trying to get rid of you.

Randy
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Newsgroups: misc.consumers,misc.misc,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.ibm.pc
From: ajb8886@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: PRODIGY New and improved STILL SUCKS, HORRIBLE as before
Reply-To: ajb8886@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 20:06:38 GMT

In article <zkessin.724650697@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>, zkessin@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Zach, the Lego Maniac) writes:
>jmalloy@itsmail1.hamilton.edu (Joseph T. Malloy) writes:
>
>>In article <zkessin.724555976@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> zkessin@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Zach, the Lego Maniac) writes:
>>>
>>>DON'T use Prodigy, well not unless you dont care that other people may
>>>be snooping on *YOUR* files. I just read on alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
>>>something about Prodigy uploading stuff from peoples HD's. I think the
>>>EFF has more info.
>>>
>>>just a warning.
>>>
>>>Zach
>>>zkessin@cs.brandeis.edu
>
>>I thought this bit about Prodigy (which is awful as an on-line service,
>>if you ask me) "snooping around one's disk" was sort of an urban myth.
>>If I recall correctly, there is a file, STAGE.DAT, that Prodigy uses as
>>a temporary cache-like storage area, and it's this file that gets
>>written to (and read?), hence the time stamp changes often.  I don't
>>recall anyone demonstrating that the evil Prodigy empire was out there
>>looking for major industrial secrets on your hd :)  

Yes.  Look around in this file called STAGE.DAT with a disk editor.   You'll
often find chunks of your data within this file, ie. you may see fragments of
say, your Word Perfect documents, Quicken data, and so forth. 

The authors of the terminal program did indeed claim that this data being
within the file was a result of area used by STAGE.DAT not necessarily being
completely used, and as a result looking in areas of STAGE.DAT that it hasn't
written to, you then see the former contents of the empty sectors, ie. the
program that resided there prior to being deleted. 

Not a completely unreasonable explaination, but if that explaination were true
then it would also mean they are needlessly eating up megabytes of disk space
unnecessarily when they could be providing more dynamic storage...

Alex





>
>From what I know the Prodigy contract that you agree to when Loging on
>does give them this right. However I dont know if they do do this. I
>would not trust them myself, But I am paranoid in some ways. Also for
>consumer survays this would be a VERY effective way of runing survays
>to sell data on custemers. 
>I advise caution.
>I dont use prodigy and for this reason alone would not, (well the
>censoring of online forums and e-mail annoys me too)
>
>--Zach
>  Zachary Kessin  zkessin@cs.brandeis.edu
> real.world: I don't think the news server gets that group!    
>
>
From: STAN@VM.TEMPLE.EDU (Stan Horwitz)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Junk mail with bills
Date: 17 Dec 92 14:00:55 GMT
Organization: Temple University - Computer Services

As a frequent credit card user, I receive credit card bills each month.  These
bills almost always have junk mail included with them.  The only creditor that
doesn't  do this  is Amex.   American Express  just includes  a small  monthly
newsletter  which  I   enjoy  reading.   Even  gas  card   bills  arrive  with
advertisements for stuff like quilts and  tupperware.  I do not know what this
stuff has to do with driving.  Anyway, I just put this junk mail right back in
the envelope with my  payment.  I usually bury my check in  the junk mail just
to  inconvenience the  companies.

The worst thing credit card companies do  is to attach a flap on their payment
envelopes with inane advertising  on it.  This ticks me off  because I have to
spend my time removing these things so  I can seal the envelopes to mail them.
Of course,  I send this stuff  back with my  payments too.  If they  send junk
that is too big to fit in the envelope, I just fold it so it will fit in.

Perhaps if enough people do this, the credit card companies will stop creating
this stuff.  This junk  mail is a waste of time and its  a monumental waste of
our natural  resources.  I  am sure the  folks in the  Post Office  would also
appreciate the resulting lighter weight  mail if credit card companies stopped
including this junk in with their monthly statements.
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,misc.misc,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.ibm.pc
From: imran@panix.com (Imran Anwar)
Subject: Re: PRODIGY New and improved STILL SUCKS, HORRIBLE as before
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:34:47 GMT
Organization: IMRAN: Information & Media Resources, Affiliations, Networks


>>P.S. Methinks Imran holds stock in Compu$erve.

>Could be... he didn't have a disclaimer about that.


I mentioned that already in another posting that I do not have stock or
a job in CIS, though I would not mind having the former. :-)

The reason I do not have a disclaimer is that I do not have a .sig file :-(

So, HERE i sthe disclaimer.  I do not have stock in Compuserve or its
owning company.  heck I dont have stock in anything except my own company.

I know CIS, CIS is a friend of mine.  And you [Prodigy] are no CIS! :-)

Imran Anwar
From: paul@hsh.com
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Need help buying tires
Date: 15 Dec 92 14:33:43 GMT
Organization: HSH Associates

In article <1992Dec3.153521.7655@infonode.ingr.com>, randall@pustule.b29.ingr.com (Randall Shepard) writes:
> 
> Does anyone have good/bad things to say about Kelly Springfield and/or Cooper
> tires?  Any recommendations on top name brands?  I have to put a set of four on a
> Honda Civic.  Specifically, I need 175-70-13 size.  All help will be appreciated.

I've used Coopers extensively, with no complaints.  The shop I go to has a 
Fact Sheet on Cooper -- it's about the 4th largest tire company in the 
USA (and it's an American company to boot).  You'll probably find their 
prices much better, as well.  I'd recommend All Season tires, FWIW.

------

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Internet: paul@hsh.com   Compuserve: 70410,3507  America On-Line: HSH Assoc
 "Any opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the company."
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: cep@taligent.com (Christophe Pettus)
Subject: Re: Secured Credit Cards
Organization: Taligent, a little subsidiary of two really big companies.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:49:04 GMT

Bankcard Holders of America (see the Credit FAQ for address) publishes a
list of secured credit card issuers.
--
-- Christophe

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Newsgroups: misc.consumers,misc.misc,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.ibm.pc
From: eravin@panix.com (Ed Ravin)
Subject: Re: PRODIGY New and improved STILL SUCKS, HORRIBLE as before
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 19:20:53 GMT
Organization: Not Just Another Pretty Face

In article <zkessin.724650697@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> zkessin@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Zach, the Lego Maniac) writes:

>>>DON'T use Prodigy, well not unless you dont care that other people may
>>>be snooping on *YOUR* files. I just read on alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
>>>something about Prodigy uploading stuff from peoples HD's. I think the
>>>EFF has more info.

>From what I know the Prodigy contract that you agree to when Loging on
>does give them this right.

You obviously don't know the facts -- there's nothing in the Prodigy contract
that says this.  And you can ask the EFF, alt.folkore.urban-legends, the Pope,
the Illuminati, the ACLU, Coopers & Lybrand, Craig Shergold, or me -- you'll
get the same answer -- the bit about "prodigy uploading your files" is
just another urban legend, along with the bit about "their contract says
they can do it, too!"  Go visit a computer store and break open one of them
ubiquitious yellow boxes -- see what the contract says inside.

disclaimer: I work as a telecom programmer for Prodigy, but I ain't no
official spokescritter.
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philabs!trintex!elr | returned to our mammal brothers and sisters,
+1 914 993 4737     | and all watched over by machines of loving grace
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: totic@dante.cs.uiuc.edu (Aleksandar Totic)
Subject: Summer jobs in Alaska
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:33:05 GMT

Hi,
a friend of mine is interested in getting a summer job in Alaska, doing 
something with fish, I am not sure what. He had seen the ads about pay being
very good, you could save up to $5000 during the summer. But he does not know
where to apply. He had seen the ad offering the information for $40. I thought
that he might be able to get same info for free, but I do not know where from.
Does anyone have any information, adressess, experiences about this kind of
work?

Thaks in advance,

Aleks

Newsgroups: misc.consumers