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From: pam@public.BTR.COM (Pamela T. Pon  pam@btr.com)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: WHO WON WHAT-EMMMYS
Date: 4 Sep 92 10:41:54 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA.

In article <1992Sep3.164727.4678@linus.mitre.org> lac@linus.mitre.org 
(Lisa A. Crook) writes:
>In article <3960@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>>
>>I posted the list of winners the same night of the Emmys and to this very
>>news group.
>
>Even though I read news every night this week, I somehow managed to miss the
>list of Emmy winners.  Could someone who still has it e-mail it to me?
>Please?

Me too, please.  I also thought I'd seen every article in rec.arts.tv
and yet managed to miss this posting completely ;-(.  

pam@btr.com

Our editor won't let me post this article unless I tack on a bunch of new
text, which is what this is, just pointless rambling, ramble ramble ramble
can we find out who was on the Best Actor in a Drama series judging panel
and lynch them, the FOOLS?????!!!!!
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From: dmb@world.std.com (Deborah M Brown)
Subject: Law & Order cast change! :-(
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 12:42:07 GMT

It's happened again!  Logan is losing another partner this fall when Paul
Sorvino leaves the cast.  According to this morning's USA Today, Sorvino
had asked the producers to limit his apperaances to protect his vocal
chords (he's an opera singer as well as an actor).  A schedule culdn't
be worked out, so he's leaving the show to be replaced by Jerry Orbach.
Sigh.

It was just last fall when Paul Sorvino replaced George Dzundza, who wanted
to move back to Los Angeles.  Sigh.

I just hope they don't kill him off like they did with Dzundza's character,
that was too wrenching for words.


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From: braithw@cs.uwindsor.ca (BRAITHWAITE GEORGE       )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: What do you call your remote
Date: 27 Aug 1992 16:52:08 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Windsor, Ontario, Canada


     In my residence last year, the remote in our lounge was called "The Helm".  Consequently the person in control of "The Helm" was "Captain XX".  It was a role of responsibility because "The Captain" had to change the channel when a commercial came on, IMMEDIATELY.  But then be able to instinctively change back to the original station when the commercial was over.

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From: tbromley.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: ST:TNG STARS ON OTHER SERIES
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:24:39 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

An episode of the syndicated comedy It's A Living is something of a 
bonanza for SF/fantasy film/tv fans.
The waitresses go to a singles bar after work, and as the evening 
unfolds, Ginger strikes up a conversation with Ghostbuster Ernie Hudson, 
the girls deal with a rather depressed Charles Fleischer (Roger Rabbit's 
voice), and Dot meets a tall handsome man she immediately begins to think 
about marrying -- until his wife shows up! In case you can't guess from 
the subject line, the man is played by Jonathan Frakes.
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From: twain@milton.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin)
Subject: Re: Emmys Censorship: What did he say?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 03:22:12 GMT

In article <BtvI7o.AvH@news.udel.edu> roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) writes:
>Martin Laurence (sp?) was an award giver last night on the Emmys 
>show.  Here on the east code feed, his opening comments were 
>largely censored.  He must have said something that might offend 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>He mentioned that there were a lot of white people in the 
>audience and then said, "I want to take this time to sing:
>There comes a time where [next part uncertain] we either 
>serve in court [and the remainder was censored (no sound)]".

Do you really mean to suggest that the network censored, i.e., deleted 
the words, or do you mean you couldn't understand the words?  -Or that 
your station or television set  failed?
From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: WHO WON WHAT-EMMMYS
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:12:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: bbx.9
Organization: BASIS International, Ltd., Albuquerque NM USA

In article <Sep.4.10.26.54.1992.18303@pilot.njin.net> langbein@pilot.njin.net (John Langbein) writes:
>In article <3960@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>
>> I posted the list of winners the same night of the Emmys and to this very
>> news group.
>
>Sorry, but the post never made it here as far as I could see (I was
>even looking for it). Perhaps a re-post is in order?

We never got it here either.

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                                     |  bliss.  Then it could be outlawed.
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From: jordan@castor.cs.uga.edu (Chuck Jordan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: MST3K: No more first season episodes
Date: 29 Aug 92 03:54:51 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <BtprrD.91o@world.std.com> dmb@world.std.com (Deborah M Brown) writes:
>In article <JEFFT.92Aug28161302@w20-575-50.mit.edu> jefft@athena.mit.edu (Jeff Tang) writes:
>>
>>Well, as much as I like MST3K, I must concur with BB that the first season
>>was not as funny as the previous ones.  No great loss as long as they're
>>showing that later ones, IMO.
>
>Second season - isn't that when Kevin Murphy joined the team?  I will admit
>to being a little less than impressed with the CLIPS that I've seen from
>the first season (IMHO, not-so-good MST3K is infinitely better than NO MST3K).

Exactly.  Bad MST3k is still lots more innovative than 99% of the other
junk on TV, especially on Comedy Central.  And, the first-season shows are
a lot "quieter" than the later ones; there's not as many jokes per episode,
but the ones that work really work.  After all, a lot of us got started
watching MST from these "early" episodes, so they must have been funny enough
to generate fan loyalty...

Also, don't forget that this first season gave us the wonders of Commando
Cody and the Moon Men (and the immortal "Oh, I hate to shoot a butt like
that.") and great lines like: "Don't just do something, stand there!"

They're not as funny as the later episodes, but they're still way cool.
Bring 'em back!

Chuck

(At least I hope Lynne-Anne as kept her collection so I can sponge off
her some more...)
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From: jeffy@cray.com (Jeff Neau)
Subject: Re: St. Elsewhere - Final Episode
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 31 Aug 92 08:41:47 CDT

In article <1992Aug29.050404.22148@samba.oit.unc.edu> Bucky.Whaley@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bucky Whaley) writes:
>In article <1992Aug29.013507.13685@inmet.camb.inmet.com> lenny@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Len Goodman) writes:
>>This topic may have been covered before (perhaps many times) but
>>what did people think of the last episode of St. Elsewhere?? 
>>I hated it - I thought it was a complete contrivance.  It seemed 
>>like the writers couldn't think of an intelligent ending, so they copped 
>>out and invented the ridiculous one that aired.  It was an awful
>>way to end a very good show. 
>
>Yeah, I felt ripped off too.  It reminded me of every story I'd ever read
>that ended, "Then I woke up and discovered it was all a dream..."  Suck-o.

Exactly.  But like a kid is going to imagine a story about a rapist who
gets shot in the nuts by a wacko who used to be dating Howie Mandel who was
friends with another doctor who was once left up tied in bed by a nutty
chick.  And like he is going imagine Mark Harmon getting his Johnson caught
in his zipper and catching AIDS.  And like he is going to imagine a doctor
getting a degree from Mexico and having to go back and take classes after his
wife dies in a car accident...

Sheesh.  What a stoopid ending...


Jeff
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From: sasse@netcom.com (Ellen Sasse)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: The Heights
Date: 29 Aug 92 08:53:53 GMT
Organization: Not

amd@ghost.mit.edu (Ann M. Davis) writes: 

> IMO, the best characters were the sax player, who reminded me of Julia
> Roberts   (...)

How can you say that?! Cheryl Pollak is a good actress!!!! Better looking
than Roberts too. Usually.

> The character portrayed by the blond girl
> is interesting, but she either she can't act or the script was lousy or
> both.

Well, she was in a soap opera I used to watch, and she is one of the
few actresses who is very verbal and smart. She played a bitch fantastically!
(Not saying she is a bitch, but that she is smart and fast enough to pull
it off even with copious crappy dialogue as in the soap genre. So many
would-be actors clearly don't understand the lines they're saying, let alone
be able to act them) Charlotte Ross was quite a refreshing change. I tuned in
on the show for her and Pollak and Valenza.

Ellen
From: rtiger@vax1.umkc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: The John & Roy Emergency Tapes
Date: 29 Aug 92 23:06:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: vax1.1992Aug29.170647.1
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City


I have the entire collection of the John and Roy "Emergency" episodes on
videotape.  Does anyone else have such a boastful collection of old 70's
dramas?  I almost had all of the episodes of "Eddy's Father," but I lost some
in a fire in my old house.

Roy Tiger

The R is for Roar as in Hear Me.
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From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (tuu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: ACTION ALERT: Far Rights Gay Baits to kill PBS, NPR funding bill
Keywords: Politically Incorrect
Date: 31 Aug 92 22:16:09 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


In article <1992Aug28.175712.27041@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> craigb@ot.austin.ibm.com writes:
}Ummm, which of these shows features the "nude lesbian sex"?

sounds like they're referring to "Portrait of a Marriage"
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From: cegtitd@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Dodd)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Going to Extremes nudity
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:14:13 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <9209022215.AA27184@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU) APUCORLE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU writes:
)
))Was the full-backal-nudity shot of the lady doctor radiology instructor
))a first for a network prime-time series, or have I just been leading to
))sheltered a life, and such shots are common nowadays? :-)
))--
))Will Martin
))wmartin@stl-06sima.army.mil OR wmartin@st-louis-emh2.army.mil
)
)I wasn't even phased by the nudity until just now.  We've
               ^^^^^^
Phased?  You can't be phased by nudity, only by weapon-bearing
members of the crew of the starship Enterprise!  Oh, wait a
minute... perhaps you mean "fazed"?

)become so accustomed to watching unedited movies on tape
)and cable.  I forgot I was watching one of the networks
)last night.  Nudity just seems so commonplace these days.

Maybe the censors forgot too!  In any case, what in GOD's
name is the GOP going to think?

)
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From: golds_ss@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Stuart S Goldstone)
Subject: Re: Emmies = Bad TV? / Dennis Miller Q's
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:14:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.043519.25114@news.iastate.edu>
boylan@pi.eai.iastate.edu (Terran Boylan) writes:
>
>Was it just me, or did the Emmies really suck?

	Nope, it wasn't just you-- they sucked all right.  No chance of them
making a movie from THIS awards show!  :-)

>It's ironic that a program that is supposed to celebrate
>the best in television was so terrible.  Did you see the
>bit where Ms. Alley (SP?) missed her cue and said something
>about her hair looking like it was sticking out?

	I thought that was one of the funniest parts in the show.  I mean,
you know that she must have felt ridiculous when she walked offstage and the
producer told her what happened...

	But let's not forget the funniest part of the evening, Rosie
O'Donnell's presentation of the Best Lighting, Electronic award...  "I can't
count the number of times I've watched a comedy and said, 'DAMN!  Who...
lit... that?!'"  And how people tell her how great she was in MISERY...  I
was dying!!  Her part was an oasis in the midst of a comedy desert.
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From: acct069@carroll1.cc.edu (Ron)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Spenser For Hire
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:32:52 GMT
Reply-To: acct069@carroll1.cc.edu (Ron)
Organization: Lightning Systems, Inc.

I'm in search of an episode guide for the TV series, "Spencer: For Hire".
I've checked the ftp.coe.montana.edu site and didn't find anything there.

If you know of such a list, please drop me a line via e-mail, our news
server is unreliable at the moment.

Thanks,
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From: Joanna L. Castillo <pefv702@perv.pe.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: DOOL: Ripping off storylines -- GH & Dallas
X-Xxdate: Tue, 25 Aug 92 02:31:12 GMT
Organization: UT Petroleum Engineering Dept.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 00:29:07 GMT

Subject: DOOL: Ripping off storylines -- GH & Dallas
From: Elaine Marie Tomko, et0l+@andrew.cmu.edu
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 09:39:41 -0400
In article <IeYDqR200iUxM1SNpG@andrew.cmu.edu> Elaine Marie Tomko, et0l+@andrew.cmu.edu
writes:
>
>Since DOOL seems content with stealing plots, why don't
>they just pull a Dallas, and have Steve & Kayla wake up
>after a horrible nightmare.  Or maybe baby Stephanie
>could have the nightmare about how awful life would be
>without her daddy?  Then everything would be just the
>way it was in the earlier post on what all didn't really
>happen (sorry, but I forget who came up with the wonderful
>scenario).

I love this idea Elaine and have been praying for something like it
for eons now.  It might be a bit of a shock at first but what the 
heck...it couldn't even begin to be as bad as a lot of the stuff we've
been watching lately.  And a lot of the old characters we just loved
would be back.

>Gee, now I'm starting to ramble like so many other annoyed
>DOOL fans.

Good for you.  :-)

>Elaine

Joanna.

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From: tyg@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: Covington Cross--A Review
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 19:00:46 GMT

Let's go down the major problems I had with this show, and how they might
have been fixed:

1) PC attitude towards females, particularly the daughter. The problems here
are first overkill; Elenor seemed straight out of a late 60s/early 70s
show in the sense of being a fully liberated woman rebelling against a
conservative but well-meaning father. This could have been made more 
interesting first by at least seeing her develop a rebellous attitude
rather than being introduced fully rebelled, or perhaps by her disguising
herself as a male to sneak in fighter practice and the like. Or they could
have gone in a completely different direction and had her be the brains and
schemer in the family and effectively running the small business that the
lord is responsible for. This could have been emphasized by having outside
characters underestimate her. There are better ways of making her a more
in-period interesting character who doesn't offend 90s sensibilities than
effectively transfering Buffy the vampire slayer into whatever century
this is.

2) Apparent lack of any control over the kids. This guy is *not* a good parent
by any stretch of the imagination. Just how much damage did those kids do to
the castle and furnishings in that intro swordfight anyway? He's apparently
considered completely ineffectual by both the daughter and the youngest son.
Heck, he's not even managed to teach any of the kids even the most basic of
his own table manners. At this point, I didn't have much respect for him.

3) Silly plot points. At the end, the father challenges his almost son-in-law
to a duel after the latter has been captured. They fight, the father is
injured and almost killed, then he stages a comeback and defeats the other,
stopping when his sword is at the younger's throat. At this point, we get a
speech about how good English law shall decide his fate...well if the father
believes that, why did he challenge him to a duel in the first place? He
wouldn't gain anything out of it other than possibly being killed; whether
he won the duel or didn't have it, the kid's still going off to the 
courtroom.

4) Boredom. I gave up on it about 15 minutes in and went off to do something
else. Came back for the final fight scene and thought to myself..."The kid'll
be killed by the daughter with a crossbow". Yep. Cliche, cliche, cliche. Yawn.

tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
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From: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Camp)
Subject: A Family Affair
Originator: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com
Organization: Denver, Colorado
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:27:02 GMT


All of the sudden, I just remembered about this show, "A Family
Affair."  How wierd!  I remember hearing that the little girl
Buffy, or was it Jody, died of a drug overdose, but I never
found out if it was true or not.  Does anyone out there know
the answer?  Also was the father on this show the same guy
who played the father in Disney's "The Parent Trap?"

Thanks in advance.

Cindy

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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:12:56 EDT
From: Todd Bobenrieth <TAB129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: It's Your Move
Distribution: usa

USA Network ran the shows off and on the past few years. An a little more
information...Jason Bateman played Matt (I forget the last name)
David Garrison(Steve Rhodes) played Norman Lamb
Caren Kaye played Matt's mother
Tricia Cast played Julie, Matt's sister
I don't remember who played Eli
Garrett Morris played the Principal
Ernie Sabella played Mr. Donatelli, the landlord.

I have a bunch of episodes on tape, including the awesome first half of
"The Dregs of Humanity".
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From: mary@wam.umd.edu (Mary Louise Cassidy)
Subject: Family Dog  Was-Re: Help me name this show!!!
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 06:06:20 GMT

Speaking of...what's the latest word on when Family Dog hits the air?????
From: kday@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kevin Day)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Emmies = Bad TV? / Dennis Miller Q's
Date: 2 Sep 92 10:25:12 GMT
Reply-To: kday@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kevin Day)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.arts.tv, boylan@pi.eai.iastate.edu (Terran Boylan) writes:
>Was it just me, or did the Emmies really suck?
>

  It wasn't just you, the Emmy program did suck. The production was
pathetic, the writing was worse. The writers made, generally, funny
actors and actresses look horrible with the sad nature of their jokes(?).
On a scale of 1 to 10, I would rate the show -20.

K. Scott Day   (kday@oasys.dt.navy.mil)
Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center
Code 1252
Bethesda, Maryland 20084-5000

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*     it must first take away."
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From: eam3@po.CWRU.Edu (Eric A. Meyer)
Subject: Re: ACTION ALERT: Far Rights Gay Baits to kill PBS, NPR funding bill
Reply-To: eam3@po.CWRU.Edu (Eric A. Meyer)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 14:06:02 GMT


In a previous article, kucharsk@solbourne.com (William Kucharski) says,
in part:

>I think this is just a bit of "baiting" of their own on the part of NPR and/or
>your station.  Remember that the federal contribution to the PBS budget is
>relatively small and, if you've watched any pledge breaks lately, is
>decreasing with time.  The majority of a PBS (or NPR) station's budget comes
>from corporate sponsors and from membership pledges.  Statements like "If Bush
>vetoes the funding bill, it will mean the end of public TV" are total and
>complete nonsense.  Will it mean more fund drives and some financial hardships?
>Yes.  Will PBS (or NPR) disappear overnight?  No.

   This is quite true....but I'd rather have federal money go to fund PBS,
etc., than about thirty-some-odd government beauracracies I can think of.
Somebody out there is guilty of hyperbole (PBS et. al. don't survive on
federal money alone, as you say) but the basic point is still valid:
support HR-2977!!!  At least money for PBS isn't money for [insert your
favorite waste of tax dollars here].

		-EMeyer

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