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From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Subject: Re: Germany's Power Play in Europe
Organization: CompuData Inc.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:53:05 GMT

planius@ips105.desy.de (P. Lanius) writes:

>Most non-germans I've spoken to also feel that it was an annexation. So you
>should be aware of your bias, because you are german (-- I guess at least).

Peter,
You must run into a strange set of acquaintances to find they mostly agree that 
an annexation took place. I've yet to meet one of their compatriots. Most 
people simply know the wall that separated one country was finally toppled. 
That may be simplistic but that is what people saw.

A country artificially divided was put back together again at great pain to 
both parts. It had to happen because all the people living on one side of the 
fence wanted to go to the other side. It was still easier to tear the fence 
down.

fred
-- 
W. Fred Rump 	office:	   fred@COMPU.COM     'mans feet have grown/so big 
26 Warren St.   home: fred@icdi10.compu.com  that he/forgets his littleness'
Beverly, NJ. 08010                          		Don Marquis 
609-386-6846    bang:uunet!cdin-1!icdi10!fr   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: marcus@iiasa.ac.at (Marcus SCHNELL)
Subject: Ich suche ein Buch
Organization: International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:23:57 GMT


Hallo alle,

Ich have vor vielen Jahren ein Buch gehabt, dass hiess:

	Hans Hards Mondfahrt.

Leider have ich es beim Umziehen verloren. Es war sehr alt,
ein Geschenk von meinem Vater.
Kann mir bitte jemand schreiben der das Buch kennt
oder sogar villeicht hat???

Danke,

Marcus
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: rcl3r@helga2.acc.Virginia.EDU (Robert C. Lewis)
Subject: Octoberfest information request
Originator: rcl3r@helga2.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 13:41:22 GMT

From: rcl3r@helga2.acc.Virginia.EDU (Robert C. Lewis)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Octoberfest information request
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Virginia
Keywords: 


Hello-

I have a kind of a strange request.  I have been put in charge of an
Octoberfest party for some time next month.  I have a few problems
with this assignment.  First, I have never been to an Octoberfest.
Second, I have never been to Germany.  Third, I have never taken
German as a language and as such, have no idea what the culture is
like.  Finally, and probably the most blasphemous, I have never 
read this newsgroup.

What I am looking for is ideas.  What kind of food, beer sold in
the US (VA) to serve.  Where to get a Polka band.  What other simple
things can I place around the party as props.  That kind of thing.

If you have ever been to an Octoberfest, or just look like you have,
please tell me about it so I can attempt to duplicate the experience
here.

Thanks in advance.


rob
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I have /Re:/ in my KILL file, so reply directly to me if you want a response
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: weberwu@inf.fu-berlin.de (Debora Weber-Wulff)
Subject: Violence update: 8.9.92
Reply-To: dww@inf.fu-berlin.de
Organization: Free University of Berlin
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 08:07:27 GMT

I was in "Wessiland" over the weekend, it's amazing how far away the
problems in the east are from the people in the west. Sure, they're now
concerned that the caserns in their suburbs will soon be housing refugees,
but they just can't comprehend the problems the people in the east are
facing, let alone why the refugees are coming.

The police managed to keep the weekend's violence more or less in
check, just a lot of rock and fire bomb throwing, a number of arrests,
nothing spectacular. 

The morning newspaper has a little article way down on page 1 that there
was a fire in Halle in the homes of some Vietnamese (apparently "real"
apartments, not hostels), and 2 Vietnamese women and 7 German children
were hurt, apparantly overcome by smoke. Lots of little skirmishes not
worth listing, and then a note on two problems in Essen and Dortmund,
cities in the West. Apparently a young man of Turkish descent who was
born in Germany threw a fire bomb into a refugee hostel and was arrested,
the other was a few 14-17 year old *children* that were being violent.

On the Brandenburg page there was the note that some youths that set
fire to a refugee hostel in August 1991 were finally brought to trial
yesterday. 

Some voices are now calling for politicians to sleep in the hostels
so that they can see the conditions and feel the violence themselves.
The Bonn politicians have still not commented on the violence. I
am personally especially disappointed that Richard v. Weizaecker has not
commented, he normally finds just the right tone to show his disapproval.

 
-- 
Debora Weber-Wulff                       dww@inf.fu-berlin.de
Institut fuer Informatik                 +49 30 89691 124
Nestorstr. 8-9                           (INCLUDE "standard.disclaimer")
D-W-1000 Berlin 31                       (PRINTN (WITTY-MESSAGE TODAY))
From: ulrich@galki.toppoint.de (Ulrich Gall)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Aussiedler
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 11:12:01 GMT
Distribution: world               
Organization: private UUCP site, Kiel, Germany

carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca) writes:
>
> AC>Laut mehreren Posts haben die territorialen Ansprueche der BRD mit der
> AC>Wiedervereinigung eine Ende genommen.
>
> AC>Aber, was sind dann die Aussiedler ? Sind sie deutsch oder nicht ?

Ich kenne einen, der in Polen deswegen beschimpft wurde (weil er deutsch ist).

Juristisch haben sie Anspruch auf einen deutschen Pass und automatisch die
deutsche Staatsbuergerschaft.

> AC>Haben sie eine doppelte Staatsangehoerigkeit ? Wer wird als deutsch
> AC>empfunden? Ist das mittels der Grenzen von 1937 bestimmt ?
>
> Jeder, dessen Familie einmal einen Deutschen Schaeferhund hatte.
> Natuerlich nicht laenger als 300 Jahre her.

Bloedsinn!

>
> AC>Was ist der Sinn der Aussiedlern-Politik ?
> Gute Frage.

Den deutschen die Moeglichkeit zu geben, endlich frei in ihrem Land zu leben -
wenn schon nicht in ihrer Heimat. 

Ulrich

Ulrich Gall, Seebrooksberg 2, W-2300 Klausdorf, Germany
Tel.: +49-431-790292, EMail: ulrich@galki.toppoint.de
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: farhad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Farhad Kashtiban)
Subject: Needed Persian word prossocer for IBM(sorry old topic)
Organization: California State University, Chico
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 19:38:57 GMT

	Salaam be hame
	I am new to csi and i heard u guys are a big help.
	I desperately need a Persian word prossecing software that does it all.
	It's for good sake and god bless you. Please email me or call me if u 
	can help me.

	Farhad Kash
	(916)891-8567
	farhad@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

	Thanks in advance     
	
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.arabic,soc.rights.human
From: ahriman@wam.umd.edu (Ahoora joon)
Subject: Re: Represion of women has been escalated in Iran 
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 22:13:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.173926.10645@ccu.umanitoba.ca> ebrahim@ee.umanitoba.ca (Mohamad Ebrahimi) writes:
>  In article: <1992Sep7.232649.8111@seas.gwu.edu> marshall@seas.gwu.edu (Christopher Marshall) writes:
>
>    ( stuff deleted )
>
>>Do you all think there is any hope for Iran in the near (~10 years)
>>future?  What would it take to free Iran?
>          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>     An American Marshall, like yourself, with 400,000 soldiers and
>+500 airfighters and +120,000 sorties of heavy bombardments with B-52's
>and missiles. Exactly like when US made Iraqi people free.
>
>>Chris Marshall
>
>Mohammad

Truth be told it's all kind of my fault. I told Bush and Saddam, "Hey, both
you jerk offs work for me. Quit it. If I lose you two where am I going to find
two other total idiots to replace you?"


-- 
ahriman

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From: sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Response to everyone
Date: 12 Sep 92 17:22:47 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <2432@unet.UUCP> ahmad@lime.uucp (Ahmad Esmaeili) writes:

>Question: Why does Shirazi "french fries" taste sweet?
>Answer:   Because they make them with "Aloo" in Shiraz.
>
>Question: Why don't Shirazis and Rashties get along?
>Answer:   Because Shirazies always have a "Rashti" pick up their garbage.
>

I had heard the second one , but the first one was new to me.
Excellent , come up with more , I thought they were both great.

Ramin

***********************************************************
* "God Come down , If you are really there. Well, You're  *
*  the one who claims to care ....   "   The Mozzerman    *
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: saied@cwis.unomaha.edu (Saied*)
Subject: Re: repression of women
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:38:06 GMT

bes@cco.caltech.edu (Behnam Sadeghi) writes:
>In article <8SEP199212050638@reg.triumf.ca> mahin@reg.triumf.ca  writes:


>>I'm not even going to bother arguing over THIS one but I will say this to all
>>the people who want to cover women in chadors, roosaris or whatever the hell
>>else they have.  They can shove it up where it feels the best!

>Just because for the overwhelming majority of Muslim women the standards of 
>decency is different from yours is no reason for you to insult them in this 
>obscene fashion.

If and when the overwhelming majority of Muslim women decided to
wear certain kind of hijab, I and every democatic-minded person
should respect their rights to do so.

The point is not decency either. The majority women who have become
victims of the terrorist pasdars happen to be farily decent, and
certainly more "sharif" and decent than ugly-looking, beard-covered
face, uneducated, and uncivilized pasdars who's tool of trade
during last 13 years has been lashes, acid-cans, brass-buckles,
chais, and not to mention, firearms, and who have been riding
motorcycles adorned with pictures of Khomeini, roaming into the
streets and harrassing and arresting women, just because they
didn't like the color of her dress.

Get your facts straigth. Mahin is not insulting any woman.
She is referring to you, the thug pasdars, and the akhound
who try to forcefully impose your will on her and women like
her.

Stop your baseless accusations. When do you Khomeini apologist
stop changing distorting something to just make it easier for
yourself to present an argument?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: ramine@sco.COM (Ramin Ehali)
Subject: FRIENDSHIP CUP OF IRAN (Football)
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:14:36 GMT


SalAm Bar Hameh;

The 6th annual "JAMeh Doostie" was held during the Labor Day weekend in
San Diego, CA.  Total of 17 teams participated in this JAM from all over
the country (teams from New York, Dallas, Chicago, Arizona, etc.).

It was certainly one of the best amateur football tournament I have ever played
or seen any where in the country. 

The quality of the games were as good as it could get; and for those of you who
are more familiar with the soccer in this country, I could safely say that any
of the games could of have been an NCAA Div II. match. Moreover, 80% of the
players in this JAM could have been played NCAA varsity soccer in any major
school.

All the teams appeared so professionally in & out of field, just like the teams
in the JAMeh-takhteh-Jamsheed,(well, almost!!), and each of the teams had a 
chance to win the title.

The teams who advanced to the quarter-finals were: (those that I remember)

Ardesheer of L.A.
Ararat of N.Y.
Perspolice of L.A.
Arya of San D. (past 3 years Champions)
Pars of San Jose
Alburz of San Jose
Karoon of ?

In the semi-final games, San Jose's ALBURZ beat LA's Perspolice 2-1; and
Arya scored three goals to advance to the Final.

In the Championship Game, ALBURZ and ARYA both scored one goal each during the
regular time; and the game remained scoreless during the two 15-min extra
time. 

Finally, San Jose ALBURZ (aka Lions) defeated ARYA on the penalty kicks.
Gamewise, it was one of the best games of this JAM; it was best played by
both teams players. I also should say something about the officating of this
game which was error-less.

At the end, during the closing ceremony, JAMs and medals were given by
Hussain KALLANI (old-Perspolice center-foreward) before almost 500-600 people
on the stands.

Also, I should mention something about the crowd that came to watch the game;
they were polite/friendly, and above all, they're awesome!! Supported the
Guest team, ALBURZ, the same way they supported their ARYA.  

As a final note, it was one of the best Iranian gathering I have ever seen;
nothing but pure "DOOSTIE" between these people in and out of the field. I
certainly hope more Iranian teams, at any level, take part in these games
in the next JAMs. After all, what it counts is more "DOOSTIE" amongst
ourselves.

And many thanks to the people who organaized this JAM. They could not have
possibly do a better job. 

Ezzat-eh Doostan ZyAd

Ramin ELAHI


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: hamjavar@carina.unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar)
Subject: ThankX for info.....
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 18:52:15 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque



Hello :					Sept. 10 '92

ThankX a lot to following people  for replying to my request in regard
to Shajarian's concert :


jackn@caspianc.ism.isc.com (Jack Neman)
hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
hossein@pi.ece.ucsb.edu (Hossein Moiin)


Farid Hamjavar
Honesty is the outcome of certainty, while untruth is always rooted in fear.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: luw@mecad.uta.edu (Lu Wong)
Subject: utatest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:34:37 GMT

testing
From: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: back with a few jokes , hi all
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:33:01 GMT
Reply-To: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing, San Diego, CA


Sorry, I was unable to post the other joke.

A lady with a very sexy dress was standing in the bus station.  She also
had a neckless with a golden airplane around her neck and one could see
the whole neckless.

A bum (yek Jahel) who was standing in the bus station was steering at
her neckless.

The lady who was moving her head around and "Ba kami Esh-veh" turns to
the bum and asks:

"Agha, Khey-le Mazerat Mekham, Shoma Az Hava-peymahe Man khostetoon Amedeh?"

The Bum: "Nah, Abjii Ma Az Frood-Ghahesh Khoshemoon Amadeeh!"
From: nasser@nasser.net.com (Nasser Modiri)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Congratulations (Yellow Pages Of Iranian Professionals)
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:51:03 GMT
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies, Redwood City


Thanks and Thanks to all the people who have and are responding
to a call for developing an On-Line Yellow Pages of Iranian
Professionals.

I am proud to be an Iranian and to see what my great Hamvatans
have achieved. Soon when the list will be made available you'll
see that you have no longer to look any further to find out that
there is an Iranian just round the corner who is an expert in 
your field of interest/work. 

You name it, Iranians have done it. Congratulations to all of
you.

with thanks and regards
Nasser Modiri

------------------------------------
The call I made is as follow:


Dear All,
        You may be one of the people who I discussed the idea
        of developing an On-Line Yellow-Pages of Iranian
        Professionals two years ago. At the time 30 people
        responded.

        The main purpose of the yellow-pages is to put in
        touch Iranians who have simialr work skills together,
        and possibly to start some joint activites.

        Some of you do know the outcome of the first call
        two years ago I made. NOOR was developed.
        The origianl group of the NOOR are some 20 people
        from the UK and the USA, and we are still going.

        If you are interested in this idea please fill in
        the template provided and return it to me.
        You may wish only to fill in part of the template.

        With thanks
        Nasser Modiri

For example:
---------------------------------------------------------
Subject:        Computer Communications  and Networking
Experience:     5 Years
Name:           Nasser Modiri
Title:          Senior Engineer
Affiliation:    Network Equipment Technologies
Address:        800 Saginaw Drive, Redwood City, CA 94063, USA.
Telephone:      (415) 780 5474
E-mail:         nasser@unet.net.com
Comment:        I am a software designer, particulary involved on the
                development of OSI based network management systems.

---------------------------------------------------------
Subject:
Experience:
Name:
Title:
Affiliation:
Address:
Telephone:
E-mail:
Comment:
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: assist@unocss.unomaha.edu ( )
Subject: Re: repression of women
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 03:55:14 GMT

abbasa@ul.ie writes:
[stuff deleted]
>> 
>> To the best of my knowledge, nuns are not *forced* per se,
>> but choose to wear their dress. If a women wishes to cover
>> herself, that is her choice.

>Can a women become a nun if she displays her body?

If a woman chooses to become a nun, then she is obligated to follow
the rules set for nuns. You don't seem to understand the difference
between a personal choice and forceful imposition of a practice. I
don't blame you; you are just a typical follower of Khomeini. It is
part of the package.

>> 
>>>reason?  Ofcourse, the logic behind this dress is that a woman will get
>>>closer to GOD if she covers her body properly.  The difference between a 
>> 
>> So if a woman covers herself completely, she is closest to 
>> God regardless of whom she sleeps with or whose blood she
>> sucks.  That is Khomeinism logic.

>A Muslim is only a Muslim in real sense if he/she observes all of the
>obligations of islam.

Fine. So if she does not want to be a "Muslim in real sense", then let
her choose it that way. Stop imposing your will on her. That is my
point.

>That is the real islam and that is Khomeinism.

Wow. I guess the Arabic section of the Keyhan Havaii has one or
two readers.

[more nonsense deleted]

>> Keep that kind of closeness to God to yourself; let the Iranian
>> women choose for themselves how close they want to be to God.

>Iranian women has already decided what is good for them by overwhelmingly
>voting in favour the present islamic constitution of Iran.  I would
>like every democratic-minded person to respect their will.

See, that's what you get from reading the Arabic section of the
Keyhan Havaii. If you were in touch with the reality, you'd
realize that arresting 113,000 women a year is a strong indication of
Iranian women opposing the regime's dictorial, retrogressive rule.
(The number of arrests is probably much higher as the regime does
not release the actual figures representing the scope of its terror.)

One more comment: Well-trained Khomeini apologists like Mokhtarian
and Behnam Sadeghi can't even justify the terror against the
women in Iran. So you (Mr. Asad) are better off not revealing
your embarassing, Khomeinism mentality since you are inferior and
at a real disadvantage compared to the above mentioned individuals.
At least they have tangible reasons to justify crimes committed by
dictatorial tyrants in Iran against the Iranian people. What do
you gain in justifying such crimes?
From: alim@woodman.mips.com (Ali Moayedian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: INFO ON SCRIPTS WANTED, Dead or Alive!
Date: 10 Sep 1992 21:21:59 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: alim@woodman.mips.com (Ali Moayedian)
NNTP-Posting-Host: woodman.mips.com


I am posting the following request from Rick McGowan, the Chair of the
Unicode New Scripts Subcommittee, who is seeking information on a
variety of scripts for potential inclusion in a future version of
Unicode.  Since some of these scripts like Pahlavi and Avesta are homegrown,
I thought sci is a good place to post this.

Please send all your information directly to Rick_McGowan@next.com.

Thanks,
Ali


*** INCLUDED MESSAGE FOLLOWS ***

  From: Rick_McGowan@next.com (Rick McGowan)
  Subject: Wanted!  (Advertisement)

  WANTED.  Dead or Alive.  Information concerning any of the following
  scripts.  Prefer information in the form of repertoire listings,
  explanatory material, or bibliographic references to significant sources
  of information easily obtainable by mere mortals within the boundaries of
  the continental US.  Please contact me if you have sighted any of these.
  Allow 10-14 working days for reply.  Void where prohibited.  Post in plain
  sight.

	  Rick_McGowan@NeXT.COM

  Ahom
  Albanian (Buthakukye)
  Assyrian cuneiform
  Avesta (Pazand)
  Aymara script
  Aztec pictograms
  Babylonian cuneiform
  Bamum (Cameroon)
  Buhid
  Chakma
  Cham
  Chieng Mai
  Chola
  Ge'ez script (not modern Ethiopic)
  Hittite hieroglyphics (not the syllabic set)
  Iberian
  Indus Valley script
  Kaithi (original writing for Bihari)
  Kauder script (Micmac Indians)
  Khitan characters
  Khotanese
  Kok Turki runes (Orkhon script)
  Kuoyu
  Lahnda (original writing for Punjabi)
  Lolo script
  Maghreb
  Manchu (Mongolian form)
  Mandaean
  Mangyan
  Manichaean
  Mayan hieroglyphics
  Modi
  Moso (Nasi) ideograms
  Moso phonetic script
  Nuchen characters
  Osmanya script (new script for Somalian)
  Pahlavik (Cursive Pahlavi)
  Parthian
  Paucartambo script
  Phaistos disk script
  Pollard phonetic script
  Proto-Byblic
  Proto-Elamic
  Pyu
  Rejang (on Sumatra)
  Rongo-rongo (Easter Island script)
  Samaritan
  Satavahana
  Sogdian (Uzbekistan)
  Sumerian pictograms
  Tai Lu script
  Tai Nua script
  Tankri
  Vai (Liberia)
  Woleai (Caroline)
  Xixia
From: abbasa@ul.ie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: A Rousing Wellcome
Date: 6 Sep 92 22:30:10 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

  

Thousands of people turned out to greet President Rafsanjani of
Islamic Republic of Iran as he arrived in the Pakistani capital
Islamabad.  This historic wellcome has refreshened the memories of
the similar reception given to Ayatullah Ali Khamanai, then president
of Iran, when he had visited Pakistan.  Pakistani government had to 
take strict security measures at this occasion.

This great and historic reception is evidence of growing influence of 
Islamic Revolution in abroad.  It clearly shows that Islamic revolution
still rules the hearts of not only the Muslim people of Iran but of the whole
Islamic World also.  This rousing wellcome dashes the hopes of open
and hidden enemies (MUNAFIQIN) of Islamic revolution and warms the blood
of MOMINEEN ( believers).

regards,

Asad.   
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