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Date:         Fri, 25 Sep 1992 22:21:26 -0700
From:         4TMS009@MC.BITNET
Subject: Re: (WinNT) Byte Magazine

>I read an article a couple of weeks back, I believe it was in Open Systems
>Today that said that Microsoft planned to release a scaled down version of NT
>called Windows 4.0 about six months after the release of NT.
>
>Bryan K. Ward                               Phone: (801) 581-6491
>Survey Research Center                      internet address:
>University of Utah
>bryan@src.sbs.utah.edu
>2120 Annex Bldg.
>Salt Lake City, UT  84112

Well when Bill Gates came to Phoenix the other night as a guest
speaker for the PC Users group he said that Windows 4.0 should be out
by the end of the year (1992).

One thing odd though, he really didn't like to refer to it as Windows
4.0, but as Windows for Workgroups. From my questioning him, I got the
impression that it was Windows 3.1 repackaged with added features of
peer-to-peer networking, mail, and various other extras (now correct
me if I am wrong). I just got a note from Microsoft on a workshop
about Windows Workgroup, will attend and keep everyone posted.

The other thing I got from Gates is that NT will NOT fall below 8 meg
of ram to keep it happy. Just like 4 meg keeps Win 3.1 happy. I
forgot to ask if the programming side of NT will still need 12 meg to
run. (Oh well....)

Just my 2 cents worth.

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4TMS009@MC.BITNET              Mesa College * Mesa AZ 85202
                The Toon Master

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Subject: Reply to INCTRL
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Hi!
Is INCTRL available on any anonymous ftp sites?

-  Yossi.
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I've a really naive query that's irritating me no end.
I support numerous wordprocessing packages here with Wordperfect
being our standard. A user, recently use to the MAC world, is
trying Windows 'Terminal' and 'Write' for her limited
requirements - she feels at home with this type of interface. She
may opt for a specific WP package later.
I use Windows frequently but have hardly ever used Write - it seems
a simple enough prog. - but what is it in Windows that needs
setting to ensure the screen fonts display of text approximates to
the printed output.
Using the Generic printer driver and selecting ROMAN 10CPI the text
lines up with the ruler on the screen (10 characters every inch)
and output is ok. Selecting a different printer driver (Epson
fx850; HP laserjet 2 etc) and choosing ROMAN 10CPI or Courier 10
(fixed pitch) results in a more compact screen font selected ie
more than 10 CPI within the Ruler markings. Printout is in the
desired font but the screen layout has to be juggled to get desired
output.
All this on an IBM standard VGA PS2 and other clones, some with
Windows 3.1 installed from the factory, some installed myself. I've
tried a number of things and browsed through the Windows Resource
Kit. What simple thing have i missed - why is TTY.DRV, for example,
interpreted differently than EPSON9.DRV. Is'nt Write up to it ?
Any advice gratefully received.
Keith Griffin

KLG1@UK.AC.CAM.PHX
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Date:         Sun, 27 Sep 1992 11:14:34 EET
From:         "Vlassis Christodoulopoulos 01-INFORMATICS"
              <vchrist@LEON.NRCPS.ARIADNE-T.GR>
Subject:      German fonts

If someone knows where I can find German fonts (type 1
or true type) for Win 3.1 on Internet, please replay
to my request by personal mail

Thank you for your interest

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From:         "N.Newman" <cm3154@CCUB.WLV.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Still working on the VT320 emulation on Procomm

>
>
> > >I finally figured out that I needed the patch to get Procomm so that it can
> > >work right under TPU editor use.  But I am still having problems with
>  Keyboard
> > >Layout for the VT320 terminal emulation.  My Backspace Key still does not
>  erase
> > >characters like it should and I can not figure out if there are any keys
> > >assigned to do anything that any VT emulation is supposed to do.
> >
> > When you logon to the VAX, are you telling the VAX you are emulating a
> > VT320? i.e. SET TERM/VT320.  I used to have a problem too, but when I put
> > this line in my LOGIN.COM things started working better.  By default,
> > the VAX assumes you are emulating a VT100.
>
> Our VMS system automatically inquires to find out what type terminal you
> are emulating.  It does not assume any terminal type.  Our SYLOGIN.COM
> performs a SET TERM/INQUIRE.
>
> /*
>
>           In real life:    Dennis Vanlandingham
>                 Campus:    Seattle Pacific University
>        Internet E-Mail:    dv@spu.edu
>           Voice/V-Mail:    (206)-281-2430
>                    FAX:    (206)-281-2850
>
> */
>
not all communications packages send back to right codes, check that it is
 actually detecting a v320
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Date:         Sun, 27 Sep 1992 20:33:16 CDT
From:         John Todd <FA22@UNTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Word for Windows

I have what I hope is a fairly simple Word for Windows question, but I
have not been able to figure it out.  I have been working on a manuscript
over a period of time.  When I printed the file, some of the superscripts
for footnotes were regular size elevated characters and others where the
tiny little superscipts.  I am not aware of what I did to cause this.
Therefore, I am not aware of what I need to do to fix it.  Anyone have the
answer?

Thanks.
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:02:29 +0200
From:         torstein hansen <torstein@ITEKIRIS.KJEMI.UNIT.NO>
Subject:      Re: Looking for Windows Cursor Program

Concerning program to change color of Windows cursor:

As far as I know, the cursors in Windows have to be black and white.
So it is not possible to create cursors with fancy colors. Sorry!

torstein
torstein@itekiris.kjemi.unit.no
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:01:53 -0700
From:         4TMS009@MC.BITNET
Subject:      W4W & Equations

I have been using W4W 2.0 and the Equation editor for awhile now but I
have been have a slight problem when the Eq. Editor gives back the
Equation to Word.

I am trying to put a Multi-line equation object in but it always puts
extra space at the top. An example...

*****************Text**********************
*****************Text**********************

                               <- This space is not needed/wanted
%%%%%%%%%%Equation%%%%%%%%%
%%%%%%%%%%Equation%%%%%%%%%
%%%%%%%%%%Equation%%%%%%%%%
*****************Text**********************
*****************Text**********************

Only once in a blue moon does it return in properly. I cann't quite
figure out what I am doing wrong. Any Ideas???

BTW I really LOVE the equations that it creates. Now if I could find
some package that can graph 2-dim, and 3-dim vector equations I would
be in total heaven!!
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4TMS009@MC.BITNET              Mesa College * Mesa AZ 85202
                The Toon Master

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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:57:57 EST
From:         Paulo Henrique Cavalcante Lisboa <phcl@DI.UFPE.BR>
Subject:      Dictionaries ???

Please, does anyone know a ftp addess where I would find dictionary
programs in Windows (it could be in DOS).

My interest languages are English, French, Portuguese and Spanish.
Those dictionaries may translate from any of those languages to any other
since I have a basic knowledge of them.

Thank you very much in advance,

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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 11:58:00 GMT+1
From:         PETERSP@UTWENTE.NL
Subject:      Re: CD Database program

>   Hello out there,
>  Do you know of any puplic domain program (for windows) that will help me
> create a database for my CDs? (title/artist/songs)
>
>
> Thanks,
> Christos.
I got a program from cica called soundpro (sndp151e.zip).
I have not used it yet (It is on my computer at work still) but it looks
fine. It was a german program and I discovered that not all errormessages
are translated in English.

Greetings
 Peter Peters
 University of Twente
 The Netherlands
From: aking@HEIDELBERG.EDU (Arron S. King)
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Date: 3 Oct 92 22:13:15 GMT
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I have a Deskjet 500, and it will print tables and in landscape mode.  I agree
with Bob Lowe's statements about printing envelopes being difficult.

Arron King
Heidelberg College
aking@heidelberg.edu
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:28:47 CST
From:         A16905@ITESO.BITNET
Subject:      MS DOS 6.0

Do you know what will be new with MS DOS 6.0 ?

When will it be available (final release) ?

Shalom,
Memo.
From: CSECRET@BMSUEM11.BITNET (Frederic Dufranne)
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Date: 2 Oct 92 15:39:37 GMT
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Dear Networkers,

Can someone tell me if Omnipage Pro can manage A4 landscape format

Fred.
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Date: 26 Sep 1992 19:00:00 +0200
From: Mohammad Shams <SHAMS%EGAUCACS.BITNET@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu>

> Alright Jim....  Where did you get the Shareware Procomm under windows...
> first time I heared of it...
> thanx

Versions of ProComm (not PCPlus) are/were available as shareware up to
version 2.4.2.?!?  Datastorm changed this when they came out with PCPlus.
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From: blakeco@microsoft.com (Blake Coverett)
Subject: Re: Windows NT
Date: 03 Oct 92 18:58:23 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Canada Inc.

In article <9209291742.AA21746@odi.com> Ed Schwalenberg <ed@ODI.COM> writes:
>  Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:08:00 +0100
>  From: BIANCHI@IMIMNVX.IRFMN.MNEGRI.IT

>  Yes, for the client side Microsoft will provide the next version of Windows
> for
>  DOS (3.2 or 4.0 or Windows for Workgroup ?). This version will be binary
>  compatible with all 32 bit intel hosted NT applications.
>
>Win32s (think S as in SUBSET) will permit 32-bit intel-hosted NT applications
>which use only a specified subset of the Win32 API to run on 386-and-above
>Windows 3.1-and-later machines.  It won't run all NT applications, and it
>(at last count, according to Microsoft) only requires 3.1, not later releases.

This is just about right on the nose.  In fact any intel Win32 binary can be
run under Win32s however the functions for the advanced services that aren't
in Win16 will fail with an error.  (You won't be able to create another thread
for example.)  This means it is possible for a single binary to take advantage
of the additional functionality of Win32 if it is available but continue to
run under Win32s if not.

As Ed mentioned it will not require a new version of the OS to run apps 
designed for Win32s.  All the support components (DLLs and VxDs) will
be redistributed with the application much the same way the OLE DLLs are
today to support Windows 3.0.

-Blake
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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 09:53:59 -0500
From:         "Philip H. Kachelmyer" <phk@MUDHONEY.MICRO.UMN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: mail order

In message <9209260346.AA00666@boombox.micro.umn.edu> Microsoft Windows Version
3 Forum writes:
> I just returned what was supposed to be a 486/33 to PC Brand.  In their adds
> there is nothing that mentions that this system has a Cyrix 486 chip and a
> 80387 math coprocessor (since the Cyrix 486 does not have a math coprocessor
> built in like the intel 486DX chips).  When I discovered this I immediatly
> called and they said it was just as fast as the intel chip, but when I ran
> Norton SI on it it came up with an overall score of 33 and a processor score
> of 46.  I tested some 486/33's with the intel processor and their Norton SI
> scores were more like 65 overall and 74 on the processor.  I would say that
> is a significant difference.
>
> I have seen other advertisements for 486/33 systems that have SAID they were
> using the Cyrix chip, but there is nothing in the PC Brand ad that gives you
> any clue.
>
> Buyer Beware!

Yes, the buyer must beware of such practices.  Your test of the CPU may not
hve been a good test, however.  Norton's SI is not necessarily any true test
of system performance.  In fact, it has been debunked by most experts because
it uses loops that can be fooled easily by cache and other factors.  Much
more rigorous tests are required to truly test a system like this.  I think
PC Magazine's benchmark programs are considered to be a good test.

I think I would have returned the machine too, given that the company did not
state up front what hardware they were selling, but the testing you did may
not have accurately shown the capabilities of that system.


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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:39:11 CST
From:         Bob Lowe <BOBL@VM1.UCA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Inkjet or Laser Printer?

I have a HP Deskjet at home and use HPIII's at work.  The quality of print on
the Deskjet is very good and with the new cartridges there is no problem with
smudging/smearing as was mentioned in another posting.  However, graphics print
very ssslllooowwwwllly!  I always use the HPIII for high quality presentations,
etc. and use the Deskjet for ordinary work.  And of course, like the others, I
save money by not printing large jobs at home but at work instead.  One feature
I do not like about the Deskjet is that in order to print an envelope you need
to take the cover off, simultaneously hold down 2 buttons, and have your
envelope positioned sideways.  My Deskjet will not print tables, etc. landscape
although more recent and/or higher models are capable of doing this.

Bob Lowe
BOBL@VM1.UCA.EDU
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:00:10 -0700
From:         4TMS009@MC.BITNET
Subject:      Wanted... German Teacher.

Hello netters,

I am in search of a program that teaches German. Preferably a Windows
application, but would be willing to take a DOS app. What would be
really cool if it worked with a sound card (give me a good excuse to
get one). So if anyone knows of one please give me a holler!!!

The reason for this search is that I am learning German now and have
burned out TWO human tutors (sigh). The computer has more patience
than humans and audio tapes are BORING!!

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4TMS009@MC.BITNET              Mesa College * Mesa AZ 85202
                The Toon Master
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 05:50:00 GMT
From:         HeringerMR
              <WFCB/WFCB1/HeringerMR%Western_Farm_Credit_Bank@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      experiences with ps/2 SLCs...

NBRINDLE@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU writes:

> OK, here goes.  I have an IBM PS/2 Model 56SLC, 6MB, nothing fancy, running
> DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.1.  My CONFIG.SYS is vanilla, nothing unusual.  I'm
> not running any TSRs.  This thing is set up as plain as it comes.  I've
> heard that the SLC chips are finicky, but I've had no trouble thus far.

does anyone have any supporting evidence that SLC chips are finicky?  can
anyone point me to some articles in the popular press that discuss this
issue?  we are considering purchasing a number of ps/2s with slc chips.

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From: DREWWE@SNYMORVA.BITNET (Bill Drew-Serials/Reference Librar. SUNY Morrisville)
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Subject: WinQVT problem and e-mail to QPC
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:50:00 GMT
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I am using version 4.78 of WinQVT ( I am a registered user at a campus with a
site license for both QVT and WinQVT) on Compuserve as
76676.1420@compuserve.com.  I have yet to receive a response.  Has anyone ever
communicated with them via e-mail?

Now to my problem,  I want to access the function keys the same way that you
can in the DOS version of QVT (by pressing alt and the function key).  I have
followed the documentation but it doesnot seem to work the way the
documentation says it should.  I have asigned the function keys in my .VT file
asper the manual but can't get them to work.  I WAS ABLE TO DO THAT IN THE DOS
VERSION WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM.  Any suggestions?

If anyone from QPC is lurking out there PLEASE RESPOND!!!

Wilfred Drew (Call me "Bill")   Serials/Reference/Computers Librarian
State University of New York  College of Agriculture and Technology
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 08:43:00 CET
From:         David White IAEA Vienna <XID@IAEA1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Inkjet or Laser Printer?

I have a laser printer at work (with PostScript cartridge) and a HP
Deskjet 500 C at home. I would not print very large documents
at home on the inkjet because it is slower and I have to pay for
the ink! But the quality is very good. Certainly for private stuff
it is more than adequate.

Truetype works fine with both printers. The Deskjet has a large
improvement with TrueType as opposed to without.

It all goes on cost (and if you want colour) and the volume of
printing.

David White


> I'm considering a new printer, but inkjet or laser - that is the question.
> Does anyone out there have any particular rationale for one or the
> other?  Does anyone have any experience with the Canon Bubblejet or the
> IBM 4070IJ?  How well does TrueType work in the the inkjet environment?
> Decisions, decisions.  Any suggestions, comments, horror stories sent to
> me I'll be glad to summarize for the list. Thanks.
>
> DAVE TRAWEEK <DET@PCCCP6.BITNET>
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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 15:49:00 +0200
From:         Mohammad Shams <SHAMS@EGAUCACS.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: SCSI + Windows 3.0 + Netware 3.11 = network sending error...

Happened here too.  As we have an earlier version of NOVELL, and when I run
IPX...then NET5, then I run windows 3.0, it works for a while then it hangs?????
???????????????????????
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:57:49 AST
From:         Luciano Barragan UCV <lbarraga@CONICIT.VE>
Subject:      Omnipage Pro -> 9 pin

        Hi folks!. Here I come again with another question:

        I am  trying  to  recognize  9 pin  fonts with  OmniPage Pro but
doesn't work as well as I want. I scanned one page and it only recognize
10% of this page. I've tried with 9 pin and darker  from scan option but
still doesn't work. Although, any kind  of  printed  page (laser, books,
magazine, etc.) recognize it very well. Can anybody help me, PLEASE?

	If you want, you can e-mail me privately, but I think, this is a
common problem for other OmniPage users.

	Thank you for your response.
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