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From: 22302LMK@MSU
Subject: Re: KL questions - Frank and Julie
Organization: Michigan State University
Date: 18 Nov 1992 08:59:10 EST

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From: christil@uts.amdahl.com (Christine Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: KL questions - Frank and Julie
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:31:45 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

A couple KL questions:

1) I know that the actor who played Frank passed away earlier this
   year, but how did they write off the Frank and Julie storyline?

>>>As far as I have seen they really haven't written out Frank yet. I mean they
dedicated the first show of the season to him. But in last weeks show Mac
mentions that Frank is back visiting Julie. Which might mean that if the show
isn't cancelled that the Frank character could be re-cast. I don't know why
the writers got rid of Julie, I really liked her character.


2) So, now we know that Anne was only in menopause, not pregnant.
   But, what about all those pregnancy tests she took at the end of
   last season?  I assume they all came out positive - why else would
   she think she was pregnant?  So, my question really is, how did
   those tests turn out positive (leading her to believe she was
   pregnant) when she was really only in menopause?

>>>>This puzzled me too, I mean the test all showed positive. I don't understan
>>>>how this came out. Unless of course the doctor is wrong, has been known
to happen. I just can't wait to see how Anne is going to worm her way out of
this one.



>>>Lisa
--Christine
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:54:36 -0500 
From: Marcus Wilhelm Banzhaf <mb5g+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: DOOL:Julie

Hi all,

   Julie is starting to really annoy me.(jeff too)  This is probably
mostly the fault of the writers.  Julie just has to go as Jack's boss. 
This story is totally unbelievable.  First, Jack has to practically beg
for a job at the Spectator.  There is no way I can believe that either
Julie or Vern can do a better job as editor than Jack.  Why couldn't
Julie have simply bought the spectator and allowed Jack to remain as
editor.  J&J were really struggling back then moneywise and Julie is
family to them.  OK, so now even if Vern is editor Julie must have been
able to find a better position for Jack than that of a starting
reporter.  Here's a guy who's been editor for many years and before that
an accomplished politician.  There must have been some position in the
paper which could have used these skills.  Julie just struck me as being
extremely cold during all of these scenes.  I expected her to react in a
way much more like John did to Carrie a few weeks ago when he gave her
money for school.  Especially considering how rich she is.  I realize
she did offer Jack a higher starting salary than most new reporters (i
think he refused this), but to not be able to find Jack a better job in
the paper he ran for years is ridiculous.  
    Well, I kind of forgot about these scenes until today's episode.
Jack asked Julie for a raise and she flat out refused him.  Again the
entire scene felt extremely cold, especially considering that J&J and
Julie are family.   Knowing how difficult it is for Jack to ask for
handouts, it really seemed like he thought he deserved the raise.  This
scene today made Julie seem really fake to me.  She shows up all excited
to help decorate, goes all crazy about Abby, and seems so concerned yet
she can't believe Jack would think about asking for a raise.  Jack is a
former editor and shouldn't be making the salary of a starting reporter.
 He isn't some inexperienced reporter just out of school.  I just kind
of expected that Julie would be a little more helpful towards J&J.

-marcus

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From: firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith)
Subject: Re: SB: Connor to the rescue
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 00:49:19 GMT

In article <92325.164856MLS131@psuvm.psu.edu> <MLS131@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>I just finished watching Friday's SB.  I knew that Connor knew something
>that would help BJ in the end!  Any guesses as to who Sally is and how she
>can help?  I'm pretty much out of ideas, although I'm dying to see what
>happens!
>


Well, my guess is that she's someone else that Frank molested.  And I really 
hope she didn't kill him, because that would just be too silly.  


Firestar
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:30:52 -0500 
From: Liz Fox <lf01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: DOOL: TAN from Strawberry

[Poor sis Strawberry can't post but she wanted me to send this greeting
on to everyone - BB]


Hi Everyone,
 
	Happy Thanksgiving to all the follow Americans. And hi
to everyone else.
	I see there have been at least one new sister since I lost 
post ablity. So welcome Razzleberry. What a unique name!
	I have been seeing post fine, but I can't seem to get post out.
I have been sending a post labeled SOS every wednesday for about 5 weeks 
and still no response. I don't have much to say about the show. I just
wanted to let you all know I was still reading.
 
			Sis Strawberry.
 
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From: norbeck@pleiades.cs.bucknell.edu (She Who Must Be Obeyed)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: SB: SB Drinking Game?
Date: 19 Nov 1992 20:35:22 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
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Hi all...

In the course of watching SB yesterday it occurred to me, as CC was making
one of his more standard remarks, that one could make a great drinking
game out of SB.  Now, while I wouldn't recommend it at 10 am (when I watch
here) or 3 pm, if you had a bunch of fellow SBers around it could be a lot 
of fun.  

I came up with the following ideas for a game.  I don't know if anyone 
else has an interest in it and wants to add/modify them, but please
feel free if you do (If this is just another one of my more random
ramblings, let me know.  I'm not a heavy drinker but the frequency of
some of these things just seemed to be screaming at me to try this..).

Every time Lilly and Rafe make googoo eyes at each other.
"  " Ted and Angela ""
Every time CC moves in on Angela
Every time CC moves in on Sophia
Every time Aurora whines at Sawyer/Micah
Every time BJ snaps at Jodie
Every time Warren acts like a total moron because of his "undying love" for BJ
Every time Skylar suggests someone go in for therapy.
Every time Gina gets jealous of Lionel
Every time Ken gives Sophia a pill
Every time Connor moves in on Kelly
Every time CC says "Do you mind?"  2 drinks if he says "What the hell is 
	going on here?"
Every time Sophia insists Ken is Mr Wonderful
Every time Sophia denies she has a drug problem
Every time Winston makes an appearance
Every time Arnold nearly gets himself kicked out of the courtroom (for 
	badgering a witness, etc.)
Every time Arnold insists BJ killed Frank or that Frank was a great guy
Every time a surprise witness is called.
Every time Reese and Jodie kiss (Anybody notice this is happening more lately
	and they aren't fighting quite as much?)
Every time Lilly confronts CC about happiness or whatever.
Every time BJ has a startling revelation.
Every time Connor says "I'm just doing my job" or some variation thereof.

Even if this never actually happens, it could be a lot of fun to see 
what we could come up with on this list!!


Nancy

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From: sdoshi@olaf.wellesley.edu (Sucheta Doshi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Y&R Ashley/Nikki
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:27:31 GMT
Organization: Wellesley College

In article <1eb9sfINN5nu@uwm.edu> nina@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Shenina Louise Jones) writes:
>         I watched today's episode and Ashley stormed into the 
>Ranch and blamed Nikki for what's happening to Victoria!!  How 
>dare she say something like that, especially after she's had the 
>nerve to tell Victor that she wanted to have Jabot IF she takes 
>his offer!!!  That b*tch doesn't know when to stop!!! Did anyone 
>else see this episode?  If so, please let me know what else happened....
>

That b*tch did WHAT???? Ash has absolutely NO right whatsoever blaming
Nikki for Victoria..Vikki is NIkki's daughter NOT AShley's and Ashley
isn't even married to Victor anymore so any ties whasoever should have
been severed!  How dare Ashley walk in and attack Nikki for something that
really was Victor's fault????  It seems as if that b*tch Ashley takes
every chance she can get just to attack Nikki even if it is totally
unfounded.  Did she ever stop to think that MAYBE it is really her own
fault that Victoria is in the mess she's in because she's the
one who knew about it from the start and then wasn't around to fulfill
her counseling responsibilities when Victoria and Ryan thought about 
geting married and did. 
	Someone PLEASE throw a bomb on Ashley and get her OFF the show!

-Sucheta
From: daveo@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Dave Ochs)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: HELP, need emergency updater!
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:43:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvra.191630011
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA

>/ hpcvra:rec.arts.tv.soaps / dwv@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Dave Vollman) /  4:34 pm  Nov 16, 1992 /
>
>	There are side benefits to living in a subdivision
>	still under construction. One of them is having an
>	excavator cut the power to your house for 4+ hours.
>	NOT! Can some kind soul do an emergency update for me,
>	PLEASE! Many thanks. Many many thanks!

As I responded via email ... I am willing to do it.

>				| Dave Vollman (HASA "S" Division)

Dave Ochs            "Even if I did hit her it wouldn't have done any good
daveo@cv.hp.com      ... [sigh] should'a used a pail of water, that was it!"
                         - Edmund to Dr Tolan, about "Broom" Helga
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From: sheri@cbnewse.cb.att.com (sherlyn.k.johnson)
Subject: Re: LOV: Update for 11/16
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:16:08 GMT

In article <1eb021INN1o5@phoenix.genrad.com>, djg@phoenix.genrad.com (Deborah J. Graham) writes:
> In article <1992Nov17.142357.25031@cbnewse.cb.att.com> sheri@cbnewse.cb.att.com (sherlyn.k.johnson) writes:
> >Here's the update for Monday. Snide comments in ().
> 
> >Clay then begins to fantasize(this was really good).  He
> >fantasizes getting up in the middle of the ceremony, grabbing DinahLee
> >and taking her outside where he tells her the real reason they split.
> >He goes on to say that his last name isn't Alden.  DL tells him that
> >she doesn't care what his last name is.  He then tells her that she shouldn't
> >worry because he's going to get back at the Aldens and that all he has
> >left to do is either drive Stacy completely crazy(not far to go) or marry
> >her.  
> 
> Are you sure Clay said that either he drives Stacey crazy or marries
> her?  No, say it isn't so! Clay didn't fantasize about telling Dinah
> Lee that he is the one trying to drive her crazy! No! He can't be
> behind it! No! No! NO!
> 
> Wait, Stacey, I may need to share space in that padded room...:-)
> 
> Or, wait, I know...Clay is worried because Stacey is seeing things,
> and he just this minute got the idea that he could push her over the
> edge. But, it's really Leo that is behind the projection tv.
> 
> That's the ticket!
> 
> Okay, so it looks like Clay is behind this after all. Darn.
> 
Yes Deb, I hate to break it to you but Clay really did say that.
I don't know why he didn't fantasize DinahLee going along with him.
Aren't fantasy's suppose to go the way YOU want them to go?

> deb

Sheri J.

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From: mcmahon@nd.edu (Sheila M. McMahon)
Subject: ATWT: More annoying things
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:45:53 GMT

Here is another list of annoying things that bug me...


1) Why would the powers that be bring on an incredible talent like Terry 
   Lester (Royce) and then waste him on FakeEmily. If it were RealEmily it
   would be ok. Those two would be good together. But, the last thing I want
   to see is more of FakeEmily. They should set him up with Conner. I think
   those two would be great together.

2) The whole Error situation annoys me. Out with the truth already. This is
   dragging on almost as long as the Carolegs Murder Fiasco. The only thing
   good about the whole Error situation is Error himself. That kid is so
   cute.

3) How many times do we have to hear Chilly say, "I promised myself I 
   wouldn't push Hold'em"??

4) When is Enema going to get over her self-righteous indignation?? Granted,
   Ivagottasecretthatihavetoprotectqueenchillyfrom and Joolie didn't handle
   the situation well, but they did have good intentions. She blames them for
   the whole Hold'em-losing-his-brain-situation. Why not take it a step 
   further and say "if Hold'em hadn't have slept with Joolie none of this 
   would have happened." Also, when he overheard Ivagotta, Juicy, and JohnnyD
   why didn't he just confront them rather than drive all the way to New York
   to confront Joolie?? What I'd really like to see is someone stand up to 
   Enema and tell her off. Someone, particularly Iva, should tell her to get
   off her high horse. Ellie started to once, when she said "Momma, you 
   didn't tell Iva that she was adopted until she was a grown woman". And
   Enema said "That is a totally different situation!!" So Ellie backed off.
   But I want to know WHY it is a totally different situation? Just because
   there were no horrible repercussions it's ok to lie?? The only reason for
   that was because Iva was so relieved to find out that she wasn't related
   to Josh!! Also, Enema sent Iva to Kansas when she was young because "times
   were tough". It never occurred to her to sell off part of the farm. In 
   other words, the farm was more important to her than her own children. As
   a result of Iva being sent to Kansas, Iva was raped by Josh. So to Enema's
   way of thinking, SHE'S THE REASON IVA WAS RAPED!! Now I know that this was
   brought up during Iva's therapy sessions, but there's one major 
   difference. Iva forgave Enema! Too bad Enema can't return the favor. So
   much for unconditional love!!


Oh well, enough whining for now!

Irish
From: cabeca@sw.stratus.com (Linda Cabeca)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL: Tuesday update update
Date: 19 Nov 92 01:00:02 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: chianti.sw.stratus.com

Hi everyone !!

	Well, it might be a while before I get to type in the Tuesday
update.  A major crisis occurred today at work and I am currently in
my 11th hour here with no end in sight.  The update will have to wait
until I get a chance later in the week to type it in !!

A VERY tired and starving Mango whose eyes are beginning to cross fom staring
at the screen !!!!  ARGHHHHHH.....help me help me......


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From: deneal@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Deidre DeNeal)
Subject: Re: GL: Eleni is plugging K-Mart!
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:04:02 GMT

In article <9930@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> jmgst26+@pitt.edu (Joseph M Goodwin) writes:
>Anyone else see her in the KMart commercials.  She is obviously acting
>the Greek accent, because she sounds very "white" in the ad :-)
>
>Mike
>

I didn't see it yet, but I saw the lady that plays Gilly plugging for Quaker
Oats microwave breakfast, in this months Essence Magazine.
 
Oh, I would have put this on a separate header but I don't know how yet.  I
hope you don't mind.

D Lite


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From: mcmahon@nd.edu (Sheila M. McMahon)
Subject: Re: GL: W-B and Whiner Girl
Keywords: will this post?
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:12:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.193200.7966@colorado.edu> changj@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Julie Chang) writes:



>       I'm with those who believe that Eleni and W-B deserve each
>other.  I was wondering if anyone else got the feeling that
>we were supposed to feel for her since she had to make such
>a terrible decision during the scene in the diner with Frank.
>I just have to say that I'm really happy that he did not
>say 'Eleni, I forgive you.  How could I not?  I'll be waiting
>for you when you feel strong enough to leave your husband....'
>I was almost expecting that too, though I'm sure there is 

I haven't seen these scenes yet because I'm a few days behind. All I can say
about this whole A-M/Eleni/Frank situation is that I'm sick of it. I find 
myself fast forwarding through a lot of their stuff. Amazingly enough, I 
don't miss what's going on this way.

>still time.  So how are the writers going to have everyone
>find out who the baby is.  Maybe the ever so simple blood 
>transfusion storyline or is that too soapy?

When A-M switched Eleni's Birth Control Pills with the placebos on the boat, 
didn't he hide them there too?? I seem to recall him hiding the real pills in
the wall or something. My guess is that the young man is too stupid to 
remember that he hid them on the boat and a year down the road (or however
long the writers choose to drag out this incredible boring overdone 
storyline) Eleni will be on the boat and find them. She'll have that goofy 
look on her face and say "Where did these come from??" She'll flash back to 
that night on the boat when Frank came to try to tell her about the letter
from Musette, and then she'll flash back to making love with A-M, and leaving
him alone in the room with the BC pills while she went to take a shower. 
She'll go back home and find the BC pills that she has yet to resume taking 
for whatever reasons. Then she'll bring the BC pills (the placebos) to the
hospital and give them to Evethewonderdoc to analyze them. Eve will confirm
Eleni's suspicions that they are indeed placebos, and Eleni will figure out 
that the only time she left A-M alone that night was after they had made love
and she didn't make love with A-M again until she found out that she was 
pregnant. (Somehow she will already have realized that she and A-M DID NOT
make love that night in Greece). So she'll finally figure out that Frank is 
the baby's father!!! End of storyline! On to happily ever after!!

Remember, you heard it hear first. I know, I know!! I should write this show!

>       Back to lurking and studying.

>       Julie

Sheila M.
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From: 22302LMK@MSU
Subject: AW: I told you so!!!!!!8-)
Organization: Michigan State University
Date: 23 Nov 1992 09:10:13 EST

No one would listen to me, everyone thought I was wrong, well I am here to say
I TOLD YOU SO! I said that Sally killed Rick. Now that Kevin has revealed Sally
to be the killer. Well now that Jake has decided to be the hero, goodness only
knows what will happen.

Lisa


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From: gibbsm@ll.mit.edu (MargAret D. Gibbs)
Subject: AMC: TAN: Welcome to new posters
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab, Lexington, MA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 21:11:03 GMT


Greetings to more of our newest posters!
If you're on this list, and aren't new, please forgive me, and chalk
it up to a brain-daze.  and if you're *not* on this list, and *are* new,
keep on posting!  I'm sure to notice you eventually!

Michelle Holley
Lisa Martina Covi
Janine Paschal
Karen T Madden
Samuel Thomas III
Kathy Thompson (welcome out of mailing-list lurkdom!)
Tim Clark
John S Weiss - Thanks for letting Michelle Zafron post thru your account!

And welcome back to Gary Feldman... hope you get a closer account soon!
-- 
Margaret D. Gibbs              "Practice random kindness and 
Assistant Staff	                 senseless acts of beauty"
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
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From: alex@unx.sas.com (Alexandra Bost)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC:TAN:Ceara bites the big one?
Date: 23 Nov 1992 09:52:12 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


mitch@cdthq.UUCP (Mitch Harris) [really beverly h.] writes:

>On Loving yesterday at the end of the show, Jeremy goes into the Mahatama
>mode, stares off into space, and says, "Ceara?!" That plane has gone down,
>folks, I'm sure of it.....


Would one of you kind _Loving_ viewers please, please give us an update? 

Did the plane really go down?  If so, will Jeremy go search the ocean/ 
woods/planet for Ceara?  Will the body be found (nope...IAS...)...

This leaves loads of 'unanswered' questions... [hint, hint Dave!!!]


Alex
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From: dias@cac.washington.edu (Vivian Dias )
Subject: Re: SB
Organization: UW Computing
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:48:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.155635.9511@HQ.Ileaf.COM>, raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher raczka) writes:
> In article <40451@unix.SRI.COM> linda@unix.SRI.COM (Linda J. Szkoropad) writes:
> 
> > 
> > I think Reese was absolutely great the other day when he almost
> > attacked the horny Jodie (toadie)...but was able to keep cool...I
> > think he's got a romance novel bod (no, I don't read that trash)...
> >
>     <-:  
>     sure you don't Linda ... and we believe you
>     (-;

  She just scans the covers while standing in line at the grocery store
  Chris, yeah, that's it...

  -Vivian
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