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From: jql@cypress.com (Julie Lewis--Applications)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Inquiry - Disneyland in mid May
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:20:14 GMT
Reply-To: jql@cypress.com.UUCP (Julie Lewis--Applications)
Distribution: na
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor, San Jose, CA

In article <CPETTERB.92Apr14103242@mickey.javelin.sim.es.com> cpetterb@javelin.sim.es.com (Cary Petterborg) writes:
>My wife and I are thinking of taking our three year old to Disneyland
>sometime between May 11 and May 14.  My wife is quite concerned that
>it will be too crowded for our little girl to stand in the lines to
>the things that would interest her without getting cranky and restless.

Take my advice.  Just Do It!  The crowds shouldn't be too bad if it's not a weekend.

I agree with the stuff the other poster said, plus

get one of the unofficial guides to Disneyland (anyone have specific names for
 these?)  These contain a wealth of info on how to schedule your stay at the park.

For example, do the most popular rides first thing in the morning (after the
park opens).  Then when it gets more crowded, do some of the smaller rides 
and attractions.

Also, it's a good idea to stay at the Disneyland Hotel.  It provides the
easiest access to the park, so if you need to take a break during the day,
you just hop on the monorail and you're home.

Does anyone know if the Breakfast with Mickey is available on non-weekend days?

This gets you a free breakfast and admission to the park an hour early. They
open up a section of the park (usually Tommorowland) and you can ride everything
in that area with practically no wait at all.  


-- 
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From: mike@pyrite.SOM.CWRU.Edu (Michael Kerner)
Subject: Re: Pleasure Island
X-Post-Machine: pyrite.som.cwru.edu
Organization: WSOM CSG, CWRU, Cleve. OH
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 17:59:01 GMT

In article <bmaj2l.m4z@wang.com> erussell@wang.com (Edward A. Russell) writes:
>mdm5283@tesla.njit.edu writes:
>
>>I just came back from spring break and we went to Pleasure Island.  It is 
>>nice.  The dance clubs are pretty cool.  The only problem is that the $13.00 to
>>get in is pretty steep and you pay $2.75 for a drink.  They have New Year's Eve
>>every night and they shoot out confetti (sp) out of canons into the air along
>>with fireworks.  Overall it is a must see attraction.  The best club is  
>>Mannequins.  They have a huge revolving dance floor and one side of the wall is
>>filled with big spot lights that are synchronized to the music.
>
>
>No, no, no.  The BEST club is the Adventurer's club.  It is set up
>like an English hunt club.  Characters mingle about with the crowd and
>start putting on skits right in the middle of everyone.  They have
>various small rooms where you might be sitting having a drink and the
>African Masks on the wall start talking to you.  Unbeknownst to me,
>the "maid" put a feather duster in my back pocket and I walked around
>with it for 10 minutes (why is everyone laughing????).  Then everyone
>goes into the Library for another production.  Get there about 8 -
>8:30 and stay the evening.  I loved it but then again I am more into
>humour and not much into dancing and loud music.


Nope.  The best club is either XFR or The Cage.  The latter has, by
far, the best dance music, but the former has the most to keep one
busy.  When we went we played pool, air hockey, pinnball & such until
midnight, and then went to yet another 12:05 A.M. movie opening at the
Theatre.  The comedy club needs to bring in some real talent and do
something special.  It's as weak now as it was when they had the sneak
preview before opening PI two (or three?) years ago - you know, when
XFR was a skating rink and MGM wasn't open yet.

Mikey
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CWRU				/ Corporate HQ
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From: ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink)
Subject: BatB/LTM
Organization: Turkey Hall
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:55:48 GMT


I received this letter in the mail in response to an article I posted earlier.
The writer gave me permission to post this, and requested to remain anonymous.

--

>Oh, GEEZ, where does it say in EITHER movie that people _have_ to
>or _should_  follow the leads of Ariel or Belle?  Ariel is a
>16-year-old who found somebody she decided she wanted to marry.
>That doesn't make it sexist.  That makes it a happy story.

 Absolutely right.  Frankly, I'm surprised that the robotic legions
of Political Correctness took so long to start savaging both films
as "sexist."  Women finding happiness by marrying >men?<  Unacceptable!
Offensive!  What a horrible example to set before our impressionable
youth!

 I'm not a regular reader of rec.arts.disney, but it was good to see
someone sticking his neck out to stand up against the grim-faced
hordes who see "sexism" in every film in which the female lead is not
a PhD., a combat-trained warrior, or a cop.  Perhaps we could have a
special rating category, "PC," for those who are offended by romantic
themes:  There could be a special version of >Snow White<, in which
it is the Prince who is put under a spell by his Wicked Stepfather,
to be awakened by the Warrior Queen, Snow White.  Or a revamped
>Cinderella<, in which Cinderella is a guerilla leader, fighting for
the rights of the oppressed peasantry, who leads a raid on the
venal, male-dominated aristocracy to kidnap the corrupt Prince and
indoctrinate him into the gentle ways of Revolutionary Feminism.
>Sleeping Beauty<, with its totally unacceptable Wicked Queen and
disgusting male rape fantasies of a helpless womyn lying passively
in her bedroom while a savage male slashes his way toward her wielding
a phallic sword, we must eliminate entirely!  But >Lady and the Tramp<
could be saved by rewriting Lady as a giant timber wolf...

--[short excerpt from the following letter:]--

 For the record, I was a strong supporter of feminism, once, back
when "feminism" meant equal rights for women.  I haven't changed,
but feminism has, and for the worse.


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From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Mickey's Kitchen
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:32:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Pomona College

In article <1992Mar31.151743.5266@lmpsbbs.mot.com>, johnhe@ecs.comm.mot.com (DQ582 John Hefferan) writes:
>
> According to this morning's Chicago Tribune,  Disney has decided to
> close the two Mickey's Kitchen restaurants tomorrow.  (Mickey's Kitchen
> is a fast food restaurant that is attached to the Disney Store.  There
> is one in Schaumburg, IL and another in CA.)

I'm only a couple of miles from the one here in California, so I
wandered on over during lunch.  Sure enough, the store is split in
half by the familiar green plywood wall, except that this one has
characters painted all over it.  They have not only walled off what
used to be the restaurant and seating area, but also a fair amount
of retail space, so they're obviously doing a MAJOR remodelling of
that side of the store.

While it was interesting, and I'm kinda sorry to see it go, I suppose
I won't miss the restaurant all that much.  The food never really
turned me on.  Meatless burgers and such just aren't my style...

|  Greg Orman                               greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|                      Live to ride, Ride to live                      |
|       If it floats, flies or fornicates, it's cheaper to rent.       |
From: sonja@mariposa.key.amdahl.com (Sonja Rysko)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: 101 Dalmations
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:32:09 GMT
Reply-To: sonja@mariposa.key.amdahl.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems

Yesterday I bought 101 Dalmations for $14.99 at the local discount warehouse.
It contains a preview of Alladin, which looks great, as well as notice that
The Great Mouse Detective is due out on video this summer and B&tB is due
out this fall. Some have posted exact dates for B&tB, but I was supprised
by the other clips. No date yet for any of these on laser. My local store
does not usually find out until they are able to order. For some reason,
Disney has one of the longer lag times between tape and disk.

Sonja
From: adrian@mti.mti.com (Adrian McCarthy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Innuendo
Keywords: Newsgroups: & The Haunted Mansion
Date: 14 Apr 92 00:25:28 GMT
Organization: Micro Technology, Inc., Anaheim, CA

In article <1992Apr13.133143.1747@nic.csu.net> jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle ) writes:
>NOT impressed with Don Johnson & Melanie Griffith -- especially when she called
>The Haunted Mansion "The Haunted Manor" while claiming it was one of her

The EuroDisney attraction is named "Phantom Manor" which is what I thought
Melanie Griffith said.  Disney News discussed it in a recent issue.

Aid.  (adrian@lexcel.com)
From: CC100PG@GITVM1.GATECH.EDU (Paul Goodwin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: 101 Dalmations on laserdisk?
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:49:58 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology-Office of Information Technology

Does anyone know if 101 Dalmations is going to be out on laserdisk?

Paul Goodwin
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: krishnan@ganzer.ecs.umass.edu (Krishnan P Viswanath)
Subject: Eurodisney on CBS
Originator: krishnan@beyux.ecs.umass.edu
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 14:44:18 GMT

  Just saw on Entertainment Tonight that Eurodisney's opening ceremonies
or at least part of those will be telecast on CBS on April 11.
Apparently Don Johnson, Melanie Griffith, Garth Brooks and a slew of
others are hosting the opening function. Should be good !
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From: geoffrey@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Geoffrey Brandenburg)
Subject: Re: planning to visit Tokyo Disneyland
Organization: U. of Calgary Computer Science
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 92 17:44:59 GMT

In article <1992Mar30.214807.10407@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com> chamber@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (Craig Chamberlain) writes:
>I'll be visiting Japan (Tokyo area) for a week in mid-April to attend
>a friend's wedding and do some sightseeing.  My first thought about
>visiting Tokyo Disneyland was, gee, I travel all that distance and what
>do I end up doing?  Spending valuable sightseeing time and yen going to
>a place I could go to in my own country.  But, the Disney spirit
>prevailed.  I'm a Disney enthusiast, and I think it would be neat to
>see the differences between Tokyo Disneyland and Disneyland and WDW's
>Magic Kingdom.

So you're saying that you have a real yen to see the Tokyo Disneyland?

Ohhhh, I can't believe I wasted bandwidth to say that.


Sean Brandenburg
geoffrey@cpsc.ucalgary.ca

Scrap the GST on carrots!  Vote Babs Bunny for PM!
From: CC100PG@GITVM1.GATECH.EDU (Paul Goodwin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Little Mermaid/BatB similarities?
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:55:51 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology-Office of Information Technology

I really can't speak much to similarities in animation style (last saw TLM
years ago) but I can say one thing...from what I read during my stay at the
Disneyland Hotel last month, Little Mermaid began production in the late
1940's ('48, if I remember correctly) and some of the animation released in
the movie actually dated from that time!

Paul Goodwin
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: davest@sequent.com (David C. Stewart)
Subject: Re: BatB seasons, Is Mother nature Insane???
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: sqnt
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 19:28:37 GMT

92lemecha@gw.wmich.edu writes:

>Can anyone figure out what season it is during the movie?  Or is 
>Mother Nature having an ID crisis?  

	From the fictionalizations of the film, I gather that the spell
on the castle has also affected the surrounding area.  So even though
it may be sunny and warm during sceans in town, it would still be
cold in the enchanted zone.  This however doesn't explain why there
are snow flurries in town when Belle's father tries to get help to
rescue Belle from the guys at the tavern.  Another explanation is that the
story takes place in Autumn, they are experiencing an indian summer.

-- 
David C. Stewart                       	uunet!sequent!davest
Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.		davest@sequent.com
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From: andyi@world.std.com (Andy G Ihnatko)
Subject: Re: Oscars Best Songs
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 07:42:26 GMT

Not to mention Stevie Wonder's "Jungle Fever"...certainly much more deserving
than "Anything I Do, I'll Bet It'll Rhyme With 'die'"...
From: barry@varian.com (Barry Nesmith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disneyland, CA Construction Update
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:30:52 GMT
Organization: Varian Chromotography Systems

In article <1992Apr6.213354.7404@PA.dec.com> mikkelson@breakr.enet.dec.com (snopes) writes:

>Yes, we've seen them testing the system, projecting something similar to a
>TV test pattern onto the sheets of water.

Just out of curiosity, how much of the mist do you think will end up on
the crowd downwind. (particularly if it's a little breezy)  I'm imagining
that lack of wind will be a nightly determination of whether the show
goes on or not. True?

				Barry Nesmith
From: archive@arb.uucp (CARL  L  SAGE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Pleasure Island
Date: 11 Apr 92 08:25:50 GMT
Organization: Not an Organization

As someone who spends a great deal of time on the Island (I work 
there) I feel I have to add my $.02....The Comedy Warehouse shows
are only as weak as the cast of a particular show.As the cast 
works in rep fashion (a pool of approx 8 with 5 in each show on a
rotating basis) the chemistry IS sometimes lacking,but most of the
performers are,IMHO,far from "weak".
 As regards the "best club" debate,Ihonestly have to say that I do
not have a particular favorite (tho most people forget the 7th club,
that is the street itself with the hub and west end stages and with
the Island Explosion dancers and with the kalidescope of guest
interaction).
 BTW,the Island will celabrate it's 3rd birthday on 5/6/92 with
a special concert by Kenny Loggins.

            The first rule of intelligent tinkering
            is to save all the parts.

            "It's kind of fun to do the impossible."
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            C.L.Sage-Disney University(Class of '90)
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From: srm1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (steven.r.marcovici)
Subject: Re: 20 New Reasons to Fly to Walt Disney World
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:13:18 GMT
Summary: 4D!?!?!

In article <1992Apr6.234220.3720@gw.wmich.edu> 91babik@gw.wmich.edu (Lisamarie 'Rifa the Insane' Babik) writes:
>A while ago, someone asked what the "20 New Reasons to go to Walt Disney 
>World" were, as they were being advertised on television.  Well, here's the 
>answer, straight off my tray liner from Burger King!  Ta-dah!
>
> 6. Jim Henson's Muppet-Vision 4D

Wow! Have they added a dimension since I was there last?    ;-)
Leave it to Disney to incorporate time travel into a theme park attraction.


-Steve  srm@garage.att.com
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From: geoff@pmafire.inel.gov (Geoff Allen)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 15:10:17 GMT
Organization: Computer Nerd (is that redundant?), WINCO, INEL, Idaho
Subject: Re: EO bashing, was: More Robin Hood bashing
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: na
Organization: Computer Nerd (is that redundant?), WINCO, INEL, Idaho
Keywords: 

kolt@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>Any Annual Passholders/regular visitors have EO horror stories?
>
>Aside from the ridiculously loud volume of course...

Well, I've only seen EO once, but here are some thoughts...

	Michael Jackson as a starship captain?  Well....
	James T. Kirk he ain't.

	Plot?  What plot?

	The little floaty bird-like thing was cute!

	Some fairly good dancing.

	Way too LOUD!  (I know, you said ``aside from the ridiculously
	loud volume'' but I felt the need to mention it anyway. ;^) )

I was surprised that the Unofficial Guide to Disneyland says of Captain
EO ``the plot is flimsy but nobody seems to mind as Captain EO's fast
pace and upbeat delivery make fans of teens and septuagenarians alike. 
Not to be missed.''

Well, it was worth seeing once.

Gotta get to Florida and see those Muppets!  Gonzo the great for
President!  Camilla the chicken for First Lady!  Long live the muppets!

-- 
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uunet!pmafire!geoff   \  get lost or tired unless you want to.
geoff@pmafire.inel.gov \                    -- Walt Disney, 1953
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From: cheesmna@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Subject: Re: SNOW WHITEI
Reply-To: cheesmna@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:47:07 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.142557.19610@cis.ohio-state.edu>, fontana@honeydew.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Fontana) writes:
>(W. Scott Radeker, IV) writes:
>
>   (Russell I. Dyreng) writes:
>
  [Russell I. Dyreng's stuff deleted]

>
>While I'm on Disney, let me ask if anyone besides me is disgusted with
>the hyper-commercialization of the Disney empire... I mean, the "Disney
>Afternoon", the cheap children's books with substandard illustrations,
>the Disney stores bursting with "ancillary merchandise", etc.
>It's turned into such a money machine, and it makes me sick.
>
>
>Mark

I'll raise my hand to that.  It seems every time you turn your head, Walt
Disney is doing something spectacular.  I sometimes wonder when they'll start
doing things like the EuroDisney 3rd and a half week Anniversary : Win a free
loaf of french bread...  Where I really notice it is in the animated films.
No sooner did Ariel walk off the screen then Belle danced on.  Though I haven't
seen Beauty and the Beast yet, the immediate impressions I got from seeing the
previews was that there was a VERY tangible similarity between the two movies,
I think primarily in the style/feel/look of the artwork.  What I mean is that
the animation in Snow White has a very different look than Cinderella (sorry if
the difference in release times makes this an bad comparison, it's the first 
that came to mind).  I'm thinking that Disney should take a little time out
between big productions and take some time to do some really spectacular/unique
work that can be really appreciated.

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:43:09 -0400 
From: "Brian A. Hixon" <bh1k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Looking for videos

Hello,

I was just wondering if anyone might have some old Disney videos that
they would be willing to sell...

I am looking for the following movies : 
Bambi
Lady and the Tramp
Peter Pan
Sleeping Beauty

Also if you happen to know someplace that has any of these I would
really appriciate knowing about it!

Thanks alot!

Brian


Brian Hixon		bh1k@andrew.cmu.edu

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From: evanh@sco.COM (Evan A.C. Hunt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Disneyland - Song in Snow White's Grotto
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 03:49:33 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.


Posted for my wife:

When we were last at Disneyland, we noticed the song playing in Snow
White's Grotto (the little waterfall on the right of Sleeping Beauty's
Castle, where the wishing well is) had been changed to "I'm Wishing".
The last times we've been there it was always "I Wonder" from Sleeping
Beauty. The new song is rather more appropriate, but I kind of miss that
eerie wailing. ;-) Anyway,  I think they changed it to make it fit, but
my husband thinks they change it periodically.  Anyone know when/why they
changed it and if it's been changed before?
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From: jem@edsr.eds.com (John E. Mendenhall)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Disneyland during winter
Summary: What is Disneyland like during the month of January?
Keywords: disneyland,winter
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:11:16 GMT
Organization: EDS Research, Dallas, TX 75230

My family has decided that we will be visiting Disneyland during
the month of January this coming winter season.  I was wondering
if anyone who has just been during this past winter can email me
or post to this newsgroup their experience visiting Disneyland
during January.

Thanks for any information that can be provided.

John Mendenhall
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From: amberle@athena.mit.edu (Amberle S Ferrian)
Subject: Re: EuroDisney ceremonies on CBS
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 21:15:33 GMT

In article <6XALYK+@ais.org> plucky@ais.org (Chris Adamson) writes:
>	Was switching between the EuroDisney opening and the World
>League of American Football game last night (how's that for irony?!)
>and just had a few random notes to post:
>
>	* Did anyone else who tuned in think that Don Johnson and
>Melanie Griffith have all the warmth and personality of a salt lick?

Yup.  Maybe less.  Just my $0.02...:-)

>	* A section on EuroDisney's plans for future expansion
>included (along with Disney/MGM Studios Europe by '96), theme rides
>for "The Little Mermaid" and "Beauty and the Beast" opening in 1994.
>I do hope we Americans will be seeing similar rides in -land and
>-World by or before then.
>
Yup!.....

					amberle
					<amberle@athena.mit.edu>
From: adrian@mti.mti.com (Adrian McCarthy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Fantasmic! Rumor
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:34:12 GMT
Organization: Micro Technology, Inc., Anaheim, CA
Originator: adrian@mti

A fairly reliable source has indicated that although Fantasmic! is scheduled
to debut at Disneyland on May 15, the first performance may actually be as
early as May 3.

Aid.  (adrian@lexcel.com)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: cheesmna@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Subject: Re: Eurodisney opening on CBS
Reply-To: cheesmna@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:30:22 GMT

In article <1201.29ed4de1@mbcl.rutgers.edu>, friedman@mbcl.rutgers.edu writes:
>I never thought I'd say this but MAKE REGIS PHILBEN THE OFFICIAL COMMENTATOR
>FOR DISNEY BROADCASTS.
>
>Don Johnson and Melanie Griffith were about as exciting as a root canal.
>
>-Rich
>Friedman@mbcl.rutgers.edu


Eyyechhhch, wouldn't that be choosing the least of three evils? 8^)
Jes' a thought...
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