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From: donnel@helix.nih.gov (Donald A. Lehn)
Subject: Re: Why I'm sticking with Windows
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 02:30:08 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.215003.19537@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> smsmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephen M Smith) writes:
/>donnel@helix.nih.gov (Donald A. Lehn) writes:
/>
/>>smsmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephen M Smith) writes:
/>>/>So tell us Donald, what system will you be running NT on?
/>>
/>>Well lets see, the Silicon Graphics Indigo?, the microVax?, the Sun?, the new
/>>486?  perhaps even this Convex multiprocessor supercomputer?
/>
/>Oh that's right.  The university you went to gives out free computers,
/>I forgot.  
/>
/>BTW, I'm picking up my $1000 Indigo machine (fully loaded) at KMart 
/>next week.
/>
/>Get real!  Haven't you been reading all the complaints about the
/>system requirements for OS/2 2.0?  You yourself have complained 
/>MANY times that OS/2 won't work on your PC because you can't afford
/>to upgrade it!  But you're going to suggest that everyone go out and
/>buy a MicroVax or Sun or Indigo or 586???
/>
/>Steve Smith

Steve, why be so darn caustic.  The 2 Indigo's we have were bought to
run high powered molecular modelling software - Charm and Quanta, the
MicroVax - the Genetics Computer Groups DNA analysis program.  It is
going to be great having a crossplatform OS like NT so that we won't
have to buy a separate computer for every application and so that we
can put these expensive pieces of hardware to work doing more mundane
things like running Word for Windows, Excel, Corel Draw, etc.. instead
of gathering dust between their normal few hours a week use.

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From: jta@locus.com (JT Anderson)
Subject: Re: Win 3.1 and SMARTDRV
Keywords: windows 3.1 smartdrv
Organization: Locus Computing Corp, Los Angeles
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 19:10:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.135832.1420@unixland.natick.ma.us> scott@unixland.natick.ma.us (Scott Evernden) writes:
>In article <1033@mavrick.UUCP> luis@mavrick.UUCP (luis basto) writes:
>>
>>Windows 3.1 replaced the old SMARTDRV.SYS with SMARTDRV.EXE which seems
>>to have more control on setting up a disk cache. However, when I run
>>CORETEST v2.8, the read/write speed is almost an order of magnitude slower
>>than when using the simpler SMARTDRV.SYS, almost to the point of having no 
>>disk cache.
>
>YES!!
>
>In my tests using both CORETEST and SI, my disk speed were identical
>with and without SMARDRV 4.0.   Some disk cache...
>
>Windows operates much worse without SMARTDRV.
>
>This is really annoying.  My latest suspicion, knowing Microsoft, is
>that it kills SMARDRV when it sees QEMM386 as the mem manager, so my
>next test will be to try without QEMM.
>
>This is only one of several surprises w/ 3.1
>
>-scott

The new SMARTDRV does not cache at the INT 13 level, so CORETEST and similar
disk benchmarks don't really test SMARTDRV.  In fact, if you use INT 25 to
read a diskette, and SMARTDRV is enabled for that drive, it will have a
very negative impact on performance.  On the other hand, for disk access
using DOS file management calls, SMARTDRV is a very good disk cache.

If you want to see a dramatic example, and use NDW 1.0, try changing a file
association with and without SMARTDRV loaded.  (SMARTDRV delayed writes
must be enabled for this experiment.)

From: doug@driver.aus.hp.com (Doug Parsons)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:57:36 GMT
Subject: Re: Winword 2.0a --> The case of the lost mouse pointer.
Organization: HP Australasian Response Centre (Melbourne)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms

On our unix workstations, some terminal emulators will make the cursor
disappear so that it doesn't interfere visually with typing.

This is a great feature - I don't want to see an arrow if I'm busy
typing away.  When I move the mouse, it comes back - the only time I
want to see it.

I'd say that you have a feature, not a bug.

Douginoz.
From: linville@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (John W. Linville)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Windows does not multitask (repost)
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:59:49 GMT
Organization: NCSU CATT Prog

In article <thomasg.490@epx.hscs.umn.edu> thomasg@epx.hscs.umn.edu (Thomas Gasser) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.150739.10450@ncsu.edu> linville@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (John W. Linville) writes:
>
>>In article <!6wj-!q.garyd@netcom.com> garyd@netcom.com (Gary Dietz) writes:
>>>Windows ain't Multi-tasking, dudes and dudettes!
>
>>>I work for a company that creates Windows software, and therefore
>>>have no choice but to use Windows (I've ordered OS/2 for my home
>>>machine, though).  Windows works GREAT if you want to switch between
>
>>You should convince your company that OS/2 is the ultimate development platform
>>for Windows, for the reasons you detailed in your excellent post!
>
>>John W. Linville
>
>Gary says it right in his post.  To make money TODAY you must be writing 
>Windows programs and not OS/2.  If he was able to convince his bosses to 
>stop Windows development Gary would be out looking for a new job.  Because 

I'm afraid you missed the point.  If his company has to develop for Windows,
they should be using OS/2 to do that, since an app crashing doesn't kill OS/2
the way it kills Windows.  

From the response that IBM has had at its order line and the increase of volume
in the OS/2 groups coming from new/wannabe OS/2 users, I think any company that
doesn't look at OS/2 development is shooting themselves in the foot.

John W. Linville




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From: Iskandar Taib <ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: WinQVT/Net 2.5 problems..
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 12:28:14 -0500

Hello all

Just received my registered copy of WinQVT/Net. The darned
postman folded it up and stuck it in the mailbox but thats
a different story.

Well, when extracted you get a copy of version 2.5. Haven't
had a chance to play with it much but here are some idio-
syncracies with the FTP server.


1) It just doesn't seem to work. You log in, type DIR, then
   nothing! 

2) When you log in as anonymous it doesn't prompt you for a 
   password. 

3) The ftp log file doesn't contain information about who 
   logged in.. not surprising since this info is usually 
   supplied at the password prompt.

I guess I'll stick to version 2.2... this is the last ver-
sion I've had where the FTP server actually worked.

Argh!

I guess I'll be writing QPC a long friendly letter  8-)

I love the program, despite the problems. Hope they rewrite
it for the FTP Inc. TCP/IP kernel.



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From: swyatt@ravel.udel.edu (Stephen L Wyatt)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Review and Question of : Windows 3.1
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:43:01 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

First off, I just installed Win 3.1, with no problems what-so-ever, and can
say that I like it alot.

1.  It is faster, as people have said.  The screen updates, management, etc. is
    faster.. I like that alot, since that was the one thing that I didn't
    like about windows.

2.  The install program is nice... For those of you that don't want all those
    'dumb' trash programs that take up space, there is a NICE utility to
    add/remove them.

3.    fdi3..fd kjfdlsj
3.  I am thinking about getting a sound board, since windows supports it,
    and I do have alot of games that support sound boards, like WC II, etc.

    Should I get a Soundblaster, or Adlib?  Which is better?  
    I was told that I can digitize sound, play sound, and that one of them
      also has a joystick port.... and help would be appreciated..
      and do I need to get some special drivers from somewhere?
From: fahole@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Upgrade prices
Date: 10 Apr 92 09:09:16 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Apr10.022518.20556@ncsu.edu>, eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel L'Hommedieu) writes:
> I have heard some of you mention that the Windows 3.0 to Windows 3.1
> upgrade price of $39.95 is the cheapest.  I assume you're talking about
> Windows vs OS/2 upgrade prices.  Under that assumption, you are very
> misinformed in your "cheapest upgrade price" talk.  The upgrade for OS/2
> 1.x (any version) to OS/2 2.0 is free.  Yes, free.
> 
> Of course, you should have already known that, but some of you don't
> seem to.

No, you ASSume incorrectly.  The poster was refering to the cheapest upgrade
price to win 3.1 from previous versions of windows.  You see, this is a 
windows newsgroup, not an OS/2 newsgroup.

Of course, you should already have known that, but some of you don't seem to.
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From: psm@manta.NOSC.MIL (Scot Mcintosh)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Email to MS support via Compuserve gateway?
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:47:46 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego

I'm having some windows problems and would like to email a query
to Microsoft via Compuserve. Two questions:
1) Do they do support via email (as opposed to the forums)?
2) What's their Compuserve ID and what's the procedure to
get email from the internet into CIS?

(OK, OK, so it's *three* questions).

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"It's not a bug, it's a limitation" - Microsoft Tech Assistant
From: ujjwal@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Ujjwal Singh)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Bad disk
Date: 10 Apr 92 01:13:23 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

Hello all,
	I have a slight problem...
	I was attempting to install Windows 3.1, and it turns
	out that disk #4 is "bad".  That is, the setup program
	cannot read anything from the floppy.  I tried getting
	a dir listing from dos, but it gives me the old retry, abort
	fail error.  

	It is too late to call Microsoft now, but I was wondering if 
	there were any other "solutions" there are any easier and
	quicker solutions to my problem (I am almost positive I am
	going to have to wait another week for the replacement disk to
	arrive).

	Thank you.

	The impatient one :)
	ujjwal@en.ecn.purdue.edu
From: johnson@spectra.com (boyd johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Eggheads "Cue" WIN3.1 Offer
Date: 11 Apr 92 00:18:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Spectragraphics Corporation

In article <_hrjg-m.neptune@netcom.com> neptune@netcom.com (Dwayne Farley) writes:
>Egghead *may* not accept a return of an upgrade or competative upgrade
>on your software.  I did a competative upgrade on WordPerfect from
>MS Word and decided I didn't like it.  Egghead would not take it back
>and said I would have to contact WordPerfect for a return.

A similar experience I had was this:
I bought software with a 90 day money-back guarantee.
I had enough problems with it that I decided to bring it back shortly
before the 90 days ended.
Egghead refused to give me a refund, because they have a 30 day return
policy only.  They said I would have to go through the manufacturer to
get the 90 day refund.
I called the software manufacturer, and was told they couldn't give me a
refund, and that I'd have to go through Egghead.
The manufacturer did fax me a manufacturers authorization to bring to 
Egghead requesting them to refund my money.
I brought it to Egghead, and got my refund immediately.
Moral:  Don't take a store's word for it.  Go through the channels you
	need to until you get satisfaction.

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From: jm@dhmoell.uucp (Joerg Moellenhoff)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Win 3.1
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 16:40:44 CES
Organization: Joerg Moellenhoff

sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:

> I ask again, are these claims valid?

Yes

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From: crum@edwards-vax.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Ami Pro problems under 3.1
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:47:03 -0800
Organization: IFAST - EDWARDS Air Force Base

About this Ami Pro .DLL problem, before you start complaining to Lotus,
try opening the file and make sure your printer is the current printer
for the document.

  I tried the process as described several days ago, and got a big
UAE in Windows 3.0.  Tried it in 3.1 and got the .DLL error.  Then
I opened the file, chaned the printer setup to my printer, corrected
all the style sheets so they supported my printer and tried it again.
Lo and behold, it worked fine.  There is not a problem with the
Ami Pro .DLL file, its your printer setup compared to what the
document was saved with


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From: stat656@unixg.ubc.ca (John Paul Morrison)
Subject: Re: Printing PostScript
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:20:19 GMT

In article <204463@unix.cis.pitt.edu> infidel@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Todd J Derr) writes:
>
>Does anyone know more about this CTRL-D thing?  Does the driver only dpo
>it for certain printers or what, because i KNOW I didn't get a C-D in my
>file...

Don't worry about it. The Postscript driver in Windows 3.1 has an option in
the win.ini or system.ini file to disable ^D (see the winini.wri or sysini.wri
files for details)

>
>
>oh well...  have fun...
>
>
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From: heathh@cco.caltech.edu (Heath Ian Hunnicutt)
Subject: Re: more bugs in 3.1
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 05:09:46 GMT

Paul started it:
>But wait...it seems like _all_ my apps only allow one copy to run at a
>time under 3.1.  This includes WordPerfect for Windows (though I think
>it did this under 3.0 also), Wingz, MathCAD, and a few others, plus
>all the applets I've tried.  The only exceptions I've found so far are
>WinGIF 1.4 and anything in a DOS box.

	First, did you know that according to PCMagazine you can just
run the old version 3.0 clock to see multiple copies? ;)

	Seriously, I think what you are seeing re: only being able
to run one instance of an application at a time is application-
specific.  Windows passes a parameter to newly created apps that 
informs them if they are the first invocation or a subsequent one.
It is within the Application's perogative to bow out if another
copy is already running.
	In fact, the "Standards" (CUA?) for application behavior
specify that Applications _SHOULD_ allow only one copy to execute
if they are applications that use the Multiple Document Interface
(MDI) guideline.  MDI apps are the ones that allow you to have 
several documents open at once.  For example, Word for Windows
is an MDI app that allows only one running instance.  I don't
use WP for Windows, but I'll bet it also allows you to have 
multiple child windows open, so it adheres to the MDI spec.
	The most ubiquitous example of MDI is the Program
Manager.  All those group windows are "Multiple Documents"
	Apparently IBM/MS thought the poor user would get confused
if they could run multiple instances of an application and open
multiple different documents in each.

Hope this helps,
Heath



















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From: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger)
Subject: Re: MS/HP win Apple suit!
Organization: Schlumberger Technologies, ATE division, San Jose, Ca.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 20:33:14 GMT

Robert_Salesas@mindlink.bc.ca (Robert Salesas) writes:
: > Jesus Rodriguez writes:
: > 
: > Msg-ID: <53282@mimsy.umd.edu>
: > Posted: 16 Apr 92 02:05:56 GMT
: > 
: > Org.  : University of Maryland Institute for Advanced Computer Studies
: > 
: > BOO HISS Microsoft :-(  Apple should have won that suit!
: > 
: > 
: 
: 
: Yeah right.  On what grounds?  "We stole it from Xerox first so you can't have
: it!"?  Give me a break.  This also frees up many future potential "look and
: feel" cases.  Nice move by the judge, and again, good show MS!
: 

Well I am very glad. This whole thing by Apple is totally unamerican,
anti-trust, anti-competition, etc.

Personally, Apple should try and win market share based on the true merits
of their products, not monopolistic attitudes. Apples long standing insistence
on closed systems, forcing a single way of thinking, and exhorbitant pricing
makes for stunted growth in the computer industry.

If Apples had more open characteristics, better pricing, and more flexibility,
they wouldn't be in the position they are today. Say... aren't they already
starting to adopt some of these things?

Let the consumer decide.

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From: pss1@kepler.unh.edu (Paul S Secinaro)
Subject: Re: DRDOS 6.0 and WIN 3.1
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:08:44 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.145016.28015@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> wg@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Bill Gieske) writes:
>
>Imcompatibility with popular software is nothing new with DR-DOS.  I got
>DR-DOS (earlier version) with a PC kit three years ago, and found it to
>be incompatible with WordPerfect Library software (a big seller then).
>Yet, the same software worked fine with DOS 3.1 and 4.01.  It still works
>now with 5.0!  IMHO, DR-DOS does not test for 100% compatibility, never
>has, and maybe never will.
>

We tried installing DR-DOS 6.0 on a 286-12 with AMI BIOS and C&T SCAT
chipset (not exactly an exotic hardware setup - in fact DR DOS claims
to explicitly support SCAT).  It crashed so many times - even while
running the install and configure programs (I forget what they're
called), that we finally took it off and put DOS 5 back on.  I've
never had a problem with MS-DOS on any machine I've ever used.  It
seems strange that DR-DOS would have so many problems just keeping
itself running, and that was before we even tried running any apps on
top of it.

Paul



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From: ruben@pollux.cs.uga.edu (<== FireIce ==>)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Win 3.1 PC speaker MM driver?
Date: 11 Apr 92 17:20:18 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Apr11.051025.105077@zeus.calpoly.edu> jwu@zeus.calpoly.edu (John Shih Jen Wu) writes:
>In article <2030@transfer.stratus.com>, leadfoot@bigbootay.sw.stratus.com (Mark Curtis) writes:
>> what happened to sndtool.  Sndtool 2.4 gave me a GP error, 2.5 said it
>> couldn't load the driver said "Bad Karma".
>
>I had the same problem. The Windows Speaker driver seems to interfere
>with Sound Tool's speaker driver. I just unloaded the Windows driver
>and the "Bad Karma" problem ended.
>
>-- 
>=========================================================================
>John S. Wu (Engr Mgt. / Mech Engr) ===>  jwu@nyx.calpoly.edu
>California Polytechnic State Univ., School of Business, MBA Program 
>San Luis Obispo, CA 93401

I had the same conflict with sndtool and the speaker driver supplied by
microsoft.  My solution is to name the driver included with sndtool from 
speaker.sll to speak.sll and everything worked fine.  It seems that the name
produces a conflict with sndtool driver and microsoft's speaker.drv.  

That's going to solve your problems.

===============
ruben robles
UGA CS
Athens, GA

Diga Amo...
===============
From: nevries@accucx.cc.ruu.nl (Nico de Vries.)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Boo Hiss MicroSoft
Keywords: Marketing Scam
Date: 8 Apr 92 07:38:03 GMT
Organization: Academic Computer Centre Utrecht

In <j8h2b9o@dragon.wpd.sgi.com> daveb@merlin.wpd.sgi.com (Dave Babcock) writes:

>...
>    Will I switch to OS/2?  No way, I'm a commited Windows developer/user.

So what. OS/2 2.0 is capable of running all your windows software is is much
better for windows development than windows itself. A crashing windows program
is much easier recovered under OS/2 2.0 than under Windows. Especially if
it contains bugs which id quite likely during development phase. Even if you
don;t think OS/2 2.0 will be a succes I would still considder it for development. Compare the Logitech debugger with any DOS/Windows product and you see what I
mean.

>...
>My gripe is that MicroSoft made a big deal and got a lot of free press on
>the "All pre-ordered upgrades will arrive by 10am Monday" announcement.

>It was a lie.

>They didn't ship the upgrades (or at least mine and several other people I
>know of) such that they could arrive as promised.  MicroSoft should get as
>much press coverage over this "Marketing Scam" as they did over the original
>announcement.

I think you are overreacting a bit here.  I am sure Microsoft is trieing
as hard as they can to delever the product on your desk on time.

>When IBM promises to deliver OS/2 by a certain date I know not to believe it.
>When MicroSoft promises something I used to believe them.  I thought they had
>more class.

What a strange assumption. Look at the time between 3.1 planned and arived
(more than a year) and OS/2 2.0 (3 months, I don't buy the LA, GA story). Why
do you think IBM is less reliable than Microsoft?

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