HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim)
Subject: Re: Question about, DOS 5.0, Win 3.1, OS/2 2.0
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 19:54:45 GMT

lygre@hsr.no (Eirik Lygre) writes:

>Anyway, I believe you will be very happy with os/2 and winos2. The
>first remarks of the released version of os/2 2.0 are promising.
>One (former) windows user said WinWord 1.1 runs faster on os/2
>than it did on Windows 3.0 on the same computer.

Before this starts another spate of "X runs programs faster than Y",
I'll add that the above report was *very* preliminary, and second
hand information to boot.  For instance, we have no way of knowing
if that user had been running Windows in 640x480x256, then was wowed
by the speed when he ran Winos2 in 640x480x16.

Let's put off any speed arguments until both products get into the
hands of enough people so we can do some real benchmarks.
-- 
John H. Kim                 | (This space to be filled when I
jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu | think of something very clever 
uunet!jarthur!jokim         | to use as a disclaimer)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: DRDOS 6.0 and WIN 3.1
From: gilf@vms.huji.ac.il (GIL FREUND)
Date: 11 Apr 1992 14:12 IDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    Lines: 25

In article <1992Apr2.142750.2566@vax1.umkc.edu>, dhawan@vax1.umkc.edu writes...
>In article <1992Mar25.011418.15808@den.mmc.com>, rarmstro@bigsky.den.mmc.com (Richard Armstrong) writes:
>>
>> p.s. if ANYONE would care to suggest a patch or fix,
>> let me know.  But for now, I'm keeping my money in
>> my pocket, and letting Microsoft have none of it until
>> this is resolved!
>
>
>Try this "pissed off person like me"
>
>Install MSDOS 5.0
>Install WIndows 3.1
>Install DRDOS 6.0
>
>It worked on several machines, it may work on yours.
>
>Tej

I installed Windows 3.1 over DR-DOS 6.0 with no problem. The Setup Warned me
about PC-Kwik being loaded into Exteneded memory, but other then that I
didn't encounter any problems. I do, however, use QEMM and not the DR memory
manager, and 4DOS.

Gil
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
From: butch@geohub.gcn.uoknor.edu (H. G. "Butch" Walker Jr.)
Subject: Re: AMiPro Questions
Reply-To: butch@geopix.gcn.uoknor.edu
Organization: Geosciences Computing Network, Univ. of Oklahoma
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:59:02 GMT

|>>Being frustrated with WPWin, I decided to get the working model
|>>of AMiPro.  A couple questions:
|>
|>>1. How much Ram do you really need? I have 2 megs right now. WIll
|>>it be as slow as WPWin with only 2 megs?
|>
|>Yes.
|>
|>>2. Can the ATM be used as iff you bought it separately? If so
|>>it seems like a good deal.
|>
|>Yes again.
|>
|>>3. Amipro claims to import WP files.  I tried this with the 
|>>working model. I imported a heavily formated resume, and
|>>it came in really different.  I tried all 3 options in the
|>>"apply styles" dialog box and no luck.
|>
|>Not sure.
I have found that the WP import filter only imports certain types
of formatting.  You will need to do a little bit of fine tuning in order
to get the document where you want it.  You should be able to do
a lot of it, however, by modifying the style definitions that it pulls
in.  
One other thing you might want to be aware of.  Lotus has just 
announced that it is offering, totally-free of charge (I know because
I just got it), the Ami-Pro Switch Kit.  It is basically an Ami Pro
macro (the Ami Pro Macro language is massive) which is designed
to aid those switching from Word perfect to Ami Pro.  It not only 
automates the import of WP files, but it tells you how to do a given
WP command in Ami Pro.  It is free to all Ami Pro owners (all you need
is a serial # on the bottom of the box) by calling 1-800-831-9679
(that's actually not the right number, but they can give it to you, if 
anyone gets the correct number they might post it).  The switch-kit
might be of use to a WP vet and at the worst you get a free disk.
|>
|>>4.  THe working model shows fonts in red that i don't have.
|>>What is the deal???
|>
The best I can figure, this happens when a style was set up to use
a certain font but that font is not installed.  In this case, the sample
document you are looking at was written in a font you don't have.
It also happens if you remove a font.  The amazing thing is that it
still seems to work.  I don't know if it is simply substituting another
font and my untrained eye isn't noticing it or what, but that seems
to be the problem when the font is in red.

Hope this helps,

Butch
From: fer9483@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Windows 3.1 Review
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:38:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

> 
> So far I have had the same type of problems and joys you have.  It didn't
> upgrade my 7.05 microsoft mouse to the 8.20 that is on the install disks
> so I had to do it myself.  I copied the new .com .sys .drv files to the
> windows and system directories.  I didn't change the mouse settings in the
> system ini file so maybe I missed something.  I'm not sure why they
> have a 8.20 driver on the disk and don't install it.
> 

Same here.. it never touched the mouse driver, but it DID remove my old one,
just never got around to decompressing the one that came with it.  No big deal
though.
From: linville@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (John W. Linville)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Why go to 3.1 if 2.0 works
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:50:58 GMT
Organization: NCSU CATT Prog

In article <moore.703184477@pv34c1.vincent.iastate.edu> moore@iastate.edu (Brian J Moore) writes:
>>Which apps? OS/2 does run all existing apps.
>
>How many are 32-bit?

Ask that again in six months.  Or three months.  The answer should be large 
enough to satisfy you.  It doesn't really matter.  Even if you only run 16-bit
programs (even just DOS and Windows programs) than OS/2 still has numerous
advantages including increased stability, greater convenience and ease of use,
etc. to make it extremely worthwhile.

John W. Linville



----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|  John W. Linville                Amateur radio:  KD4KHC                  |
|  #include "std_disclaimer.h"     E-mail:  linville@catt.ncsu.edu         |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: reza@Voyager.me.utexas.edu (Alireza Vali)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Egghead: Win 3.1
Date: 26 Mar 92 15:07:54 GMT

In article <56182@cup.portal.com> Renee@cup.portal.com (Renee Linda Roberts) writes:

[...]

>I got Windows 3.1 yesterday, and am currently reviewing it for them (not a
>beta, the REAL THING). So far, not bad. I am compiling a list of bugs, and
>will release them here as well as to MS.
>
>Renee

Bugs?  Bugs?  Already?  What's the story?  I thought Windows 3.1 was beta
tested quite extensively.  I would dearly like to know of any potential
bugs.  In such a case, it's probably better to hang on and wait for
3.1a.
From: drake@drake.almaden.ibm.com (Sam Drake)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Number of OS/2 2.0 orders (was Re: Why go to 3.1 if 2.0 works)
Date: 15 Apr 92 06:40:38 GMT
Organization: IBM Almaden Research Center

In article <1992Apr14.192606.11387@alw.nih.gov> donnel@helix.nih.gov (Donald A. Lehn) writes:
>By the way, I noticed that the new IBM PS/1's that Sears is selling are bundled
>with DOS 5.0, Windows and I believe, MS-Works.  

Quite true.  However, a version of the PS/1 with OS/2 pre-loaded will 
be available in the "Spring of 1992".


Sam Drake / IBM Almaden Research Center 
Internet:  drake@almaden.ibm.com    BITNET:  DRAKE at ALMADEN
From: root@tamuts.tamu.edu (Wally Strzelec)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Trident New Drivers?
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:10:09 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station

In article <12297@tamsun.tamu.edu> packman@tamuts.tamu.edu (Wally Strzelec) writes:
>In article <1992Apr11.154342.11642@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> hzh@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>>I am using Trident 8900 super vga card with Windows 3.0 without any problems.
>>But recently I switched to Win 3.1 and I can't use my 256 color drivers
>>anymore.  Do I need a new driver from Trident?  I tried calling Trident BBS.
>
>On their BBS, they have a new driver for Win 3.1.  It is in the beta
>library and takes about 25 min at 2400 baud.  I was able to get
>through twice *early* Saturday morning.

I have placed these drivers up for anon ftp on tamsun.tamu.edu.  They
are in directory ~ftp/pub/win31 as trident_win31.zip.  I also put them
at wuarchive.wustl.edu in /pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS as trident_win31.zip.

	Wally Strzelec
	Texas A&M University
	Unix System Administrator
	packman@tamuts.tamu.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tuesday, 14 Apr 1992 16:51:46 EDT
From: <MJG8@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: New Smartdrv, memory hog

It seems to me that smartdrv.exe takes up much more space than the older
version.  It has thrown my whole memory alotment screwy and now I only have
about 590 k of conventional memory free.  this may not be a problem because
now it's easier to run dos programs from windows 3.1.  any comments?  e-mail to
 me if you don't think this holds widespread interest. marty

Martin Gutowski                       Bitnet: mjg8@psuvm
Penn State University                 Internet: mjg8@psuvm.psu.edu
From: rjv@hp-vcd.vcd.hp.com (Ron Vaughn)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:47:15 GMT
Subject: Re: Win 3.1's Bad DeskJet 500 Driver (AAAARGH!)
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Vancouver, WA, USA
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms

TrueType fonts and ATM fonts are rasterized by their respective
font scaling software.  By the time those "fonts" get to the DeskJet 500
printer driver, they are already bitmaps, i.e. they look like graphics 
data, and are handled as such. the driver passes the data through as
graphics - character shape, spacing etc. are handled by the app and the
font rasterizing software.

you should try to use the *latest* DJ500c driver (version 2.1, which 
supports the entire family of DJ printers). with it you will get the 
driver's internal scalable fonts and not be limited to the printer's 
internal bitmap fonts.  as mentioned, you will also be able to use ATM, TT, 
Facelift etc.. you will also get improved gray scale printing and any 
misc. bug fixes that have taken place since previous versions of the driver.  

	rjv
	
	rjv@vcd.hp.com
From: cap@mb5000.anes.upmc.edu (chris pilewski)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Trident TVGACRTC.zip and MODETEST.zip Needed
Keywords: Trident Help!
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:02:15 GMT
Organization: UPMC

Hi there,

I need TVGACRTC.zip and MODETEST.zip.  They are Trident configuration
utilities, and are not part of the Windows 3.1 driver set. (I already
have that.)  Unfortunately, Trident's BBS is *so* clogged with users,
I haven't been able to log for days.  Would anyone who has these
utilities please post them to a convenient ftp site and contact me
via email.

						- Thanks in Advance
						- Chris Pilewski
						- pil@med.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
From: shenoy@iastate.edu (Shiva Shenoy)
Subject: Re: windows for 3D ??
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 18:52:48 GMT

In <12227@tamsun.tamu.edu> ng@eemips.tamu.edu (Kit-Tong Ng) writes:





>Howdy:

>Is there any software packages out there that can be used to program 
>3-D in Microsoft Window environment ???

Do you mean 3-D graphics?

>I am actually looking for one that has the capabilities of DDE, DDL and all the wonderful things a MS windows has.


-- 
Shiva Shenoy                           | e-mail: shenoy@iastate.edu 
2066 Black,                            | Office: (515)-294-0082
Dept. of Aero. Engg. & Engg. Mechanics | Home  : (515)-296-7640
Iowa State University, Ames, IA 50010  |
From: tlutz@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Todd Lutz)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:15:18 GMT
Subject: Re: Printing PCL from WFW2.0
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Boise, ID
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms

> Does anyone know how to print HP-PCL files from within Word for
> Windows 2.0? I would like to link them into the text and it would be
> even better if I could reduce them in size.

Try inserting a PRINT field first.  Then inside the PRINT field insert an
INCLUDE field and specify the filename of the PCL file.

Follow these steps:
  1. Select Insert, Field from the main menu.
  3. Select Print from the Insert Field Type scroll box.
  4. Click the OK button.
  5. Select View, Field Codes from the main menu (so you can see the field
     that you just inserted).
  6. Move the cursor inside the Print field, just to the LEFT of the closing
     brace (}).
  7. Select Insert, Field from the main menu again.
  8. Select Include from the menu.
  9. In the Field Code box, type the PCL filename after the word "include".
 10. Click the OK button.
 11. You should now have "{print {include filename}}" in your document.
 12. When you print your document, it will attempt to print the included
     PCL file.  If it doesn't print it, try selecting the Update Fields
     check box in the Print, Options dialog.

-- Todd Lutz
   tlutz@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: When DR scams, it's ok? Was Re: Win3.1/DR DOS 6.0/SuperS...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:53:35 GMT

Robert_Salesas@mindlink.bc.ca (Robert Salesas) writes:
>> David E. Watson writes:
>> I found out that the version of SuperStor that comes with DR-DOS was crippled
>> to only work with DR-DOS.  The SuperStor driver will not recongnize another
>> operating system.  This was confirmed by tech support at AddStor (the
>> people who make SuperStor).  Now I had recently upgraded my version of
>> SuperStor to v.2.0 through AddStor.  According to AddStor, this
>> version will recongnize MS-DOS.
>Interesting.  I hope MS bashers take note.  While all the claims that MS
>"cheats" by placing code to check for OS/2 or DR-DOS, have been unfounded, DR
>plainly admits that it limits components of it's DOS to only work with itself.
>How many people are going to condem DR for doing that?  How many would if it
>was MS who did that?
*----
What's wrong with this?  AddStor probably REQUIRED it to keep the
price of the bundled SpeedStor down to less than the cost of DR-DOS.
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
From: becap@cs.mcgill.ca (Brian CAPSON)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Windows 3.1 and Stacker
Date: 4 Apr 92 20:00:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr4.200015.14584
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada

In article <2770057@hparc0.aus.hp.com> doug@hparc0.aus.hp.com (Doug Parsons) writes:
>>Windows 3.1 works beautifully with Stacker. In fact, the new version of
>>Smartdrive that comes with Windows (and is faster than any of the other
>>caches on the market today, according to tests) is Stacker-aware, and
>>works more effiently with it.
>>
>>- Brian
>----------
>
>Excuse me, but I question this.  I've recently installed Stacker on my C:
>drive, and now have a c: drive and a d: drive (swapped).  Smartdrv (3.1 end
>user released version) doesn't attempt to cache the c: drive, but does
>cache the d: drive, which is correct.
>
>The problem is, it is extremely obvious that smartdrv is NOT doing me any
>good on my d: drive.  Any access is ridiculously slow, causing mega-disc
>access, and isn't doing me any good-  physical accesses are very high.
>
>From what I've seen, it's not caching worth a damn, although it states that
>it's doing so in it's statistics.
>
>I must be missing something.

Yea, you are missing something. Like the new Smartdrv that I was talking
about, version 4.0. Before you comment on what I was talking about, wait
until you get the version I was referring to please.

- Brian
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
From: clump@cs.mcgill.ca ()
Subject: Getting DOS to run in a window with Windows 3.0
Originator: clump@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:33:10 GMT

Every time I attempt to switch a DOS session from full-screen
to windowed, Windows complains that high-res applications cannot
run in a window. This happens regardless of what i'm doing in
the DOS window. I've tried disabling video shadow ram, not using
the supplied (dos) device driver for the video card, changing
the video mode before i invoke windows, and almost every
reasonable permutation between. I've also tried fiddling with
most PIF settings with no success.
  Someone posted a problem similar to this, and found the solution
to be adding a "/y" switch to their mouse driver. I've tried
this ("unrecognized command switch"), as well as simply
not installing the mouse driver at all -- no luck.
  Windows IS running in Enhanced mode. The machine is
a 386 clone, DOS 5.0, ATI VIP graphics card,  4meg of
memory, Logitech serial mouse (with an ANCIENT driver
i admit, but the driver supplied with windows complains
that the mouse is not a microsoft mouse and refuses to load).

  Perhaps the solution is to fork over the cash for Windows 3.1,
but i would like to know if anyone out there has a similar
problem, and how they've dealt with it.

Thanks for any assistance.

Clump
-- 
------------------------------------------------
 Science does not remove the terror of the gods
------------------------------------------------
From: rh0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Richard Warren Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Windows 3.1 and Stacker 2.0 - Conclusion?
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:15:56 GMT
Organization: Senior, Social & Decision Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

So, what exactly *is* the story with Stacker 2.0 and Win 3.1.  What
is the problem?

Thanks,
- Rick

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rick Harris 		| 	Information & Decision Systems/Computer Science
Senior.  Finally.	|	Social & Decision Sciences Department
rh0i+@andrew.cmu.edu	|	Carnegie Mellon (so hire me)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

	You didn't leave me anything that I can understand.
	Now I'm left with all of this, a room-full of your trash.

						- P-furs
From: iam@stiatl.salestech.com (Ian Mercado)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Windows 3.1 and Orchid Farenheit
Keywords: Farenheit windows 3.1 orchid vga
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:08:26 GMT
Organization: Sales Technologies, Inc.

mpolen@gelato.mips.com (Michael Polen) writes:


>Does anyone in this newgroup know if there is a drive in 3.1 for the
>Orchid Farenheit board?  Will the Windows 3.0 drivers work?

Currently available on Orchid's BBS at (510)683-0555 or (510)683-0327.
One of those is a 9600 (and I think it's the first one).

Have fun, they work great!

Ian

-- 
--------   ----   ----   --    |   Ian Mercado: iam@salestech.com             |
   --     -    -  -----  --    |                emory!slammer!stiatl!iam      |
   --    -------- --  -----    |                                              |
-------- --    -- --   ----    |            "I'd rather be flying."           |
Xref: sparky comp.windows.ms:12453 comp.os.msdos.apps:2834 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:13656
From: jm@dhmoell.uucp (Joerg Moellenhoff)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: How does *your* FAX Modem work?
Keywords: FAXit driver, WIN 3.0, WIN 3.1
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 15:37:19 CES
Organization: Joerg Moellenhoff

bkph@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu (Berthold K.P. Horn) writes:
 
>                             ... The FaX board appears as just another
> Windows printer driver as far as the application is concerned.  Just one
> thing though: it is a Windows 2.x driver, not Windows 3.x, so some
> applications may not interface to it optimally...
 
> Berthold K.P. Horn

There is a new version of FAXit (2.01) which is distributed by INTEL. Call
them to get your update. The new driver is a real Windows 3.0 driver and
also compatible with Windows 3.1.

J. Moellenhoff

--
J"org M"ollenhoff
<jm%dhmoell@ovum.ka.sub.org> ----------- Punk's not dead, eh ! Use Windows...
From: joel@upchrch.UUCP (Joel Upchurch  )
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: 3.1 & TrueType problem
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:19:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: upchrch.o4L7iB3w164w
Organization: Upchurch Computer Consulting, Orlando FL

bruce@ais.com writes:

> I took this up with Microsoft, their response was basically that since a
> TT font is really a sort of program, they didn't feel that there was much
> they could do - if there were "bugs" in the font that corrupted the GDI
> engine, then that can crash Windows 3.1.  My understanding is that this is
> basically a performance tradeoff - they feel it would take too much CPU
> time to check for attempts to corrupt the GDI continually every time a
> glyph is rasterized, & apparently feel it isn't important enough to set up
> the segments and protections so that the font can't corrupt GDI (say by
> starting up an internal "virtual task" of some type).

Sounds to me like we need a program to check out the Truetype fonts
before we try to run them.

(If your mail bounces use the address below. My map entry is new.)
Joel Upchurch/Upchurch Computer Consulting/718 Galsworthy/Orlando, FL 32809
joel@peora.ccur.com {uiucuxc,hoptoad,petsd,ucf-cs}!peora!joel (407) 859-0982
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
From: jkvanm00@nx29.mik.uky.edu (jonathan van meter)
Subject: Re: Windows 3.1 Bugs - Threat or Menace?
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 21:40:33 GMT
X-Bytes: 

> >>Failure of the DOS program Eye of the Beholder to load
> >In a window or full screen? Trying to run a game as fancy as EOB under
> >Windows is asking for trouble. Most games are less carefully debugged
> >than most apps (although I'm beginning to wonder...), and many of them
> >do "unexpected" things to wring the max performance from a system.
> >Windows may not be able to handle this. [Wing Commander II can be
> >multi-tasked under OS/2 ok, though! or so I've been told... :^)]
> -Anthony Francis
> --
anthony--

	I haven't tried eob 1 or 2 under windows 3.1 but I have successfully  
run Ultima Underworld with ZERO problems.  It's alittle slow but then again  
it's kinda slow in plan dos too.  The dos window in 3.1 is FAR better than the  
windows 3.0 window.

Jonathan
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms,comp.os.os2.misc