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From: hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang)
Subject: Re: Ban Chinese rice?! You crazy?!
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 21:39:06 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: soc.culture.hongkong

In article <1992Nov22.233151.6572@news.acns.nwu.edu> daikit@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Daisuke Kitamura) writes:
>	A while ago, I read someone who told us to stop eating Chinese rice.
>Kind of crazy if you ask me. ..... Your proposal to stop eating Chinese rice 
>and other Chinese food crops is just impossible considering the fact that 
>Hong Kong also imports a lot of it's drinking water from china too.
>
>dai
>

Execellent Dai, don't you know my bad joke has it's very satire behind it?
Do you remember in 1983, a campaign to ban Japanese stuff was held in HK
because the Japanese Gov't voted not to correct the shitty high school
textbooks, in which the history of Japanese invasion is ridiculously 
revisioned?

Ha ha, at that time everyone who did that (or supported that) is called
hot-blooded Chinese.  Now you know how dumb and blind they are, right?
Most HK people just follows the rage.  What the hell do they know about
democracy?  It's just hype.  It's hot topic.  It's like a few years ago when
you don't like either Alan or Leslie you're a oatmeal face.  It's pastime:
Yea, got nothing to do, so why don't we hangout in the candle-light thing,
or may be we're even on TV, in the lime-light man!  Ha ha!

Interestingly enough, quite a few Americans voted not to buy Japanese
cars and electronics.  Ha ha!


- Louis

P.S.  I'd love to be crazy, since I could see things very differently.
From: kchee@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kungnee Chee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Request
Date: 16 Nov 92 02:17:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: magnus.CMM.0.90.4.721880257.kchee
Organization: The Ohio State University

Hi!
  Can anyone let me know which ftp site has the .gif compiler for the 
IBM PC?  I would appreciate for your information.
                                                            Oswald
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Prices Wanted
From: Alpha.Ranma@kcbbs.gen.nz (Raphael Cheung)
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:05:34 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

could some kind soul out there inform mme on the price of a 9600 v32 v42
MNP5 modem ? and please stated the price in HK$ please... thank in
advance
From: jfl@omaha.eel.ufl.edu (Yu-Fung Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Re: Questions on obtaining British National Citizenship
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:58:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: eng.1992Nov18.205802.4326
Reply-To: edo@ugrad.ee.ufl.edu
Organization: UF EE Department (Graduate Student)

|> >soc.culture.hongkong / glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo) /  6:30 pm  Nov 12, 1992 /
|> >If you are talking immigrants to England, yes you can.  But not
|> >immigrants to HK.
|> >Immigrants to HK from mainland can't get a BNO passport no matter how
|> >many years they have been in HK.  They can only get CI.  This is
|> >common sense.  Maybe you have been away for too long.

Who care all these sucking CI and BNO policy? It is only the tactic of the
Bristish to divide HKese and to promote prejudice between chinese.
I can't believe that we tolerated such "bloodline" system for so long.
How come no HK political groups ever stand out to fight against these kind
of system. How come no politicans dare to stand out and to get our rights
back. I belive all BNO holders entitle to a first class Bristish passort. 

You absolutely can not immigrant to England with a BNO. It is only a
second class passort. Some of my frinds did have experience of being
denied to enter South Asia countries because of the BNO.
It is useless especially if you become a refugee like those boat people.
All the Bristish can tell you at that moment would be your BNO is not the same
as the first class Brishish passort.
Beside, I remember that a BNO passort holder can not stay in England for
more than six months. What a joke. I thought these kind of law is for foreigner. 
What would other countries think of the BNO when you become a refugee and 
was not allowed to enter England by your own government.
Do you remember how most countries treat those boat people?

Look! My question is simple. In what way the Bristish goverment can be sure
of not turning us into another type of "poor" refugee.

The only solution is to issue the first class Bristish passort to all BNO 
holders.

 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: wing@pegasus.com (Wing Ng)
Subject: PRC wants to abrogate Joint Declaration on HK
Organization: OSU Physics Dept.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:37:04 GMT

Copyright 1992 The New York Times
November 18, 1992  Late Edition  A1 and A11
China Threatens Hong Kong Treaty by Nicholas D. Kristof
 
>         Beijing,  Nov.  17  -- China  has sharply  escalated  its
> dispute with the British and Hong Kong authorities by threatening
> to  scrap  the 1984 agreement that promised Hong  Kong  continued
> political  and  economic  freedom for 50 years after  the  colony
> returns to Chinese control in 1997.
>
>         The  threat  was  made on Monday night  by  Deputy  Prime
> Minister  Zhu Rongji,  who was in London for talks  with  British
> officials.
 
In Black Society, they always want new joiners to prove their
toughness and demonstrate their "loyalty" by going out and murder
someone in a particularly grisly manner.  Now they want
soft-and-liberal ZRJ to demonstrate his "loyalty" to CCP's heinous
cause by performing this hatchet job.
 
Even back in 1983, during the PRC-U.K. negotiation on HK's future,
people were quoting this Bible metaphor:
 
Two women both claim a baby belongs to them, and the case went to
King Solomon.  The King took out a sword, and proceeded to cut the
baby in two, so that each woman can have 1/2.  One of the women
cried: "stop".  The King said, "you must be the true mother, you
care about the baby's well-being."
 
Sorry, the foreigner U.K. cares about our well-being (to some extent),
whereas the gangster group that now controls our motherland does
not.  It would rather let HK go down the drain than let it have
more democracy.
 
Of course, more proof is really not needed, that gangster group
perpetrated 6.4, right in its own capital.
 
Wing
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: afung@world.std.com (Albert K Fung)
Subject: Re: Support for more democracy in Hong Kong
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:34:28 GMT

In article <11103@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> anthony@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>
>Our slogan is:
>
>"Support democracy in HK, visit HK but don't go to China !"  
>

China already has her hands full domestically and internationally due to
recent political events world wide. Further antagonizing her is going
to be counter productive. We should be very careful to save her "face"
but deliver the blows where it really counts. There are a number of
things that we can and should do:

1. Write to Gov. Patten, Secretary Howe, Prime Minister Major and HK
   representatives to voice our support for the Patten Proposal. Make
   sure that they know they have the hearts and minds of the HK people,
   so that they can continue to stir things up. Remind them that the
   citizens of UK and for that matter, the world, would not forgive
   them if they leave a TAM legacy in HK.

2. Tell China that with Clinton in power, termination of MFN is pretty
   much a fait accompli. In a few years, when the European finally get
   their acts together, the EC market is going to be closed to them. With
   NAFTA, she's at risk of being shut out of the N. American market also. 
   She should come to her senses and leave HK alone if but for strategic
   reasons.

3. Tell China that a democratic HK is not only morally right, but makes
   economic sense in the long run for both HK and China. For democracy
   will liberate HK from the grip of a few to realize her full potiential.
   A prosperous HK will benefit China in the long run.

The latest news is that Mr. Howe of the Foreign Office and Prime Minister
Major voiced their support for Gov. Patten. This is another step foreward.
Let's keep our eyes on the prize and go for the gold!

Regards,

Al Fung
SoftFab International Ltd., One Kendall Square, Suite 2200, Cambridge, MA 02139
Email: afung@SoftFab.COM        Voice: (617) 621-7014       Fax: (617) 577-1209
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: pang@titan.ucc.umass.edu (pang)
Subject: Join Pang International Network Club! (was Re: YCKMC Alumni Club)
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 05:08:06 GMT

In article <By77FK.AGu@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umngai06@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Lun Yuen Ngai) writes:
>YCKMC stands for Yu Chun Keung Memorial College.  If you are YCK old
>boys, you are invited to join our club.  The following is our directory.
>
>Pang, Peter (1983-85,F6-7)        pang@rucs2.sunlab.cs.runet.edu

With so many Mr and Ms Pang living in Internet, wouldn't it be a splendid
idea to form a Pang International Network Club?? I personally have seen more
Pangs in Internet than real life! What do you think, my brothers and sisters??

please send inquiry to pang@titan.ucc.umass.edu

Pang International Network Club 
Founder:  Pang, Joe                 pang@heaven.com
Honary President: Pang, Ding Hong   pang@government.hk
President Pro Temp: Pang, Hok Kan   pang@umass.edu
other positions to be filled




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From: juyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: The whole story about the commercial by KCR
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:57:05 GMT
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington

In article <75245@hydra.gatech.EDU> fong@airmics.UUCP (Winfred Fong) writes:
>In article <BxtpMG.7pr@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cs225b86@dcl-nxt10.cso.uiuc writes:
>>
>>But KCR has been there for about 100 years.
>>
>>Richard
>
>Richard, wake up. It doesn't matter how long the KCR has been in
>business; it is rather how close are you to that environment. If
>you think one should know an acronym because of its age, try these:
>	1. ACTS;
	   ^^^^
	Air Corps Tactical School
	
	Acronyms have different meaning to different people.  I don't think
	Winfred has the same interpretation on ACTS as I have.  I agree
	that depends on the environment.  BTW, I believe that most of my
	friends in HK do not know that BTW is "By the way".
	So, stop arguing on why people do not know "KCR".  May be a list of
	the acronyms should be put in the FAQ (an acronym here again) file.

	Julia

>	2. ACSE;
>	3. LLCP.
>I feel very uneasy to read reply from people like you. Because
>I left HK (my beloved) 16 years ago and didn't know what KCR
>stands for, it doesn't give you any rights to mock at me. 
>I am not trying to blame/flame anyone here, I am simply requesting
>mutual respect from people who use this international network
>for communications purpose. 
>
>
>fred fong
>    
>  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: kkc@loki.cs.wayne.edu ()
Subject: Cert. of Registered Particulars (HK) ... need HELP!
Organization: Somewhere in Detroit, Michigan
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:48:28 GMT

Hi all HK netters,

I want to know if anyone has applied for the Certificate of Registered
Particulars from HK immigration department recently. 
If you do, please email me your experience. I called the department but
what they told me simply confuse me more.  The staff who talked to me
almost made me believe that I had to apply it in person in HK.  I know
that it is not true.  

I will very appreciate it to those who can lend me a big hand in this
matter.  Thank you.

-- 
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		It is better to wear out than to rust out
email: kkc@cs.wayne.edu
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: cmhui@cucs18.cs.cuhk.hk (Hui Chau Man)
Subject: Re: What do you think of Chris Patten
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 04:31:27 GMT

fung@disun14.epfl.ch (Yee Kay Fung) writes:

>Hi, to those of you bored by the VChow, KCR discussions, here is something new
>to debate about : Chris Patten

>Since his proposal to increase the number of directly elected legislative council
>members, there has been a lot of reaction from all sides. In HK, people hold
>basically one of the two views:

>To many he is the hope to more democracy,the governor who listens to the people
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Right! But to many people are fooled by Patten's show. Before 1997, even
if there were 100% direct elected seat in LegCo, the ultimated source of
power is still from Britain. We, Hong Kong people, still have no right
to choose our own government. The Governor still have absolute right to
dismiss the LegCo and refrom ExCo. What's the different compared to the
past 100 years. 

WAKE UP EVERYBODY. Patten is just using us as bargaining chip to CHINA.
Whether Hong Kong has democracy is not the main point. The main point is
that how much money Britain can take from Hong Kong in the remaining
years. 

The governor has never listened to the people but the BIG MOUTHs in Hong
Kong. What we people want are low property price, low inflation rate,
better health care, better education system, better social wellfare ...

Only the BIG MOUTHs want 20 or more direct elected seats in LegCo. No
body cares people's life. 

Hong Kong do need democracy now and in the future. But if the price is
too high, I will withdraw.

>and the first (as well as the last!) to stand up to Peking. 

>Yee Kay Fung
>Greetings from Switzerland

C.M. Hui
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: psmkong@descartes.uwaterloo.ca (Mary Kong)
Subject: Re: KCR commercial, the true story
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:57:52 GMT



What about the rest of us who can't read Chinese.  I also find the KCR commercial
issue very interesting...could someone provide the real story but in English
Text. Thanks.
From: lionel@handw0.hgo.dec.com (Chan Chun Kit Lionel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Horse Racing
Keywords: Result
Date: 16 Nov 92 10:35:37 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Hong Kong Ltd

In article <1992Nov13.053541.7988@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, hwsy_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (The Last Tycoon) writes:
|> Hi guys,
|> 		I'm wondering who is keeping the eye on the Hong Kong horse
|> racing.  If anyone who have the informations or reults, please send back to the
|> news group, or even directly send it to me,  appreciate!
|> 
|> Best Regard,
|> Simon Yan (hwsy_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu)

O, very bad, "River Verdon" fails to "Sun To" on last Sat.
I bet $200 win on "River Verdon" but only 1st runner-up.
                   ^
		   "Tsui Ho" in Cantonese
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********************************************
Chan Chun Kit Lionel

City Polytechnic of Hong Kong
Industrial placement student working in DEC

lionelchan@hgrd01.enet.dec.com
90124982@cphkvx.bitnet
lchan@nyx.cs.du.edu
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From: gho@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Grace Ho)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Chow Yun Fat's first name
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:29:51 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania




Hi.  I was wonderin....does anyone know what's 
Chow Yun Fat's american name?  So far, someone
told me that it was Robert but someone else
told me it was Adam...who's right?
thanks...

Grace
From: fung@disun14.epfl.ch (Yee Kay Fung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: What do you think of Chris Patten
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:21:53 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

Hi, to those of you bored by the VChow, KCR discussions, here is something new
to debate about : Chris Patten

Since his proposal to increase the number of directly elected legislative council
members, there has been a lot of reaction from all sides. In HK, people hold
basically one of the two views:

To many he is the hope to more democracy, the governor who listens to the people
and the first (as well as the last!) to stand up to Peking. 

To others (including many businessmen who value their business over democracy)
Patten is just another (clever) manipulator taking the opportunity to advance
his own career. Afterall, he doesn't have to stay in HK after '97. The six
million HK Chinese have no choice however.

Patten, the good or the bad guy? What do you think?


Yee Kay Fung
Greetings from Switzerland
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mldw@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au (David Wo)
Subject: Re: The whole story about the commercial by KCR
Organization: Electrical and Electronic - University of Melbourne 
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:59:26 GMT

I want to know what is KCR as well?
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From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: What do you think of Chris Patten
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:00:01 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

fung@disun14.epfl.ch (Yee Kay Fung) writes:

>Patten, the good or the bad guy? What do you think?

Depends on which side you are on, I guess... 

UK, China or Hong Kong? 

I would like to discuss this issue further.  However, I really have no
idea what type of person Pattern is.  (I came to this country to study
before he became the governor of Hong Kong--and I haven't been back since).

If someone knows what Pattern has done, please share them with us.  
I am all ears.

Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin
e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu

PS: BTW, are you studying in Switerland?? must be difficult for you...
From: Samson.Luk@f1.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Samson Luk)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: SCHK Link Up with Shanghai CHINA!
Date: 20 Nov 1992 11:55:26 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Tonigth I will link up this newsgroup with the BBS that I help to setup
while I am in Shanghai China during September...  Let us welcome Sysop of
FidoNet 6:651/1 (Internet: Dean.Lee@n1.f651.z6.fidonet.org)!

Regards

 * Origin: TAIC Maximus-CBCS, Home of HK PC User Group (6:700/1)

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From: lyndon@Sol34.essex.ac.uk (Lee L C H)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Is is right to eat dogs?
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:59:57 GMT
Reply-To: lyndon@essex.ac.uk (Lee L C H)
Organization: University of Essex, Colchester, UK

In article <1dtumsINNi0e@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk> tlm@deutsch.doc.ic.ac.uk (Te Lung Man) writes:
>
>...
>But the question still remains. Is it right to eat dog?

I am not attempting to give an answer, as it would be a lengthy essay and 
could involve a lot of side issues. I want to rephase the question:

   "Can human being kills for food be given a justifiable moral basis?"

Lyndon Lee

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I know you believe you understand what you think I said,
but I am not sure you realise that what you heard is not what I meant.
From: alvin@top.cis.syr.edu (Alvin Leung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Vivian Chow
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:23:29 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University CIS Dept.

Who is she?  I have been away from HK and locked-up in my computer lab. for
too long.  I saw her picture and want to know more about her.  Is she a singer
or a actor.

Alvin

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From: cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: One Joke A Day, No More Girls Say No Way
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:40:53 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Cheung's Funky Shop, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: strider.hw.stratus.com

-CFS-

Coco Moe, Banana Repubic -  In his bid for a senatorial seat in
this newly annexed territory of the United States of America, Funky
Cheung was accused that, during his youthful years, he sexually
harassed numerous women by posting obscene and sexually explicit
jokes on the computer discussion forum, commonly known as "net".
The particular discussion group on which Funky Cheung allegedly
made his sexual advances was called social.culture.hongkong.  

According to witnesses, Funky Cheung solicited kisses at least once,
made references to oral sex at least three times, told dirty jokes
at least on five different occations.

Funky Cheung has been consistantly refusing to comment on the 
allegation until today.  He issued a statement, through the net,
that he apologized for his improper conduct and vowed, once elected,
he would eradicate dirty jokes on soc.culture.hongkong.


Cheung's Funky Shop, Inc.

p.s.  For those who do not know where the heck this guy makes this
joke from, go read today's paper about Packwood from Oregon.  So some
day, some day if you see F. Cheung's name on any ticket, you guys
give me a break and don't tell, O.K.?

Oh, the news service did provide one piece of evidence of Funky 
Cheung's unwanted sexual advances:

cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com writes:



>           ____  __.---""---.__  ____
>          /####\/              \/####\			
>         (   /\ )              ( /\   )
>          \____/                \____/
>        __/                          \__	Funky Cheung asks,  "any one?"
>     .-"    .                      .    "-.
>     |  |   \.._                _../   |  |
>      \  \    \."-.__________.-"./    /  /
>        \  \    "--.________.--"    /  /
>      ___\  \_                    _/  /___
>    ./    )))))                  (((((    \.
>    \                                      /
>     \           \_          _/           /
>       \    \____/""-.____.-""\____/    /
>         \    \                  /    /
>          \.  .|                |.  ./
>        ." / |  \              /  | \  ".
>     ."  /   |   \            /   |   \   ".
>    /.-./.--.|.--.\          /.--.|.--.\.-.|



>"That's O.K." Funky Cheung comforts himself, "The best possible thing
>that can turn out is a geeky nerdy engineer with a few sexy pimples on."

>Cheung's Funky Shop, Inc.
From: tlm@deutsch.doc.ic.ac.uk (Te Lung Man)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: A Chinese Menu
Date: 23 Nov 1992 16:19:00 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: tlm@deutsch.doc.ic.ac.uk (Te Lung Man)
NNTP-Posting-Host: deutsch.doc.ic.ac.uk

Recently, two Chinese dishes have become very popular, they are:

1) Szechuan Style Socialism: A dish devised by Deng and is very much the
   flavour of the moment. But for how long ? People tend to get bored by
   having the same dish all the time. It won't be long before something
   else more adventurous is called for: Bring on the Big Mac !!

and

2) Democracy in Hong Kong Style: Originally a mild dish, but Patten has 
   recently had it with a little bit of a chilli sauce, and some people have
   already found it too hot to handle. I guess Patten will add chilli powder
   or even gun powder to his dish very soon !!! I shan't think of the
   consequences.

Personally, I would perfer authentic Chinese dishes such as sweet and sour
pork and special fried rice ! Ha, Ha.