HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: knudsen@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (michael.j.knudsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
Subject: Sun SPARC hangs on v8.1 Layout
Keywords: sun openwin layout bug
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:43:40 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

We've been running version 8.1 of Layout and FabLink on a SPARCstation
under OpenWin (that's Sun's version of XWindows).  Works well, but...

Sometimes the entire system locks up.  Not just Layout, but the entire
Windows interface.  You can't get any kind of response anywhere to mouse or keys.
Sometimes the PerfMon tool will show little bursts of CPU and packets
when you flog keys or mouse, but still no response.

I THINK this lockup is caused by accidentally pressing certain "shifter"
keys while using the mouse.  In particular those just to left of spacebar --
ALT and the undocumented "diamond" key immediately adjacent to the spacebar
on either side.  "Diamond" (Sun's answer to the "Apple" key?) is totally
mysterious as to its intended purpose -- even Sun manuals ignore it.

My thought is that ALT and/or Diamond "modify" mouse click codes into
events that Mentor's applications choke on, just as SHIFT and CTRL
access additional (but useful and documented) mouse functions.

Does anyone know how to avoid this lockup, or how to recover gracefully?
I've yanked all those useless keys off with needle-nose pliers, but it
could still happen again.  Right now there's no fix but to rlogin over the
ethernet and kill -9 your Layout job, then remove all *.lck files.

BTW, a ps from the rlogin shows Layout and its children peacefully
sitting in IW (I/O Wait) states.  Guess it's time to check up on
a properly running job and see what its ps looks like for comparison.

Any help would be appreciated.  I realize XWindows is still experimental
(despite sales claims), that Sun's version is buggy, and Mentor's interface
to this mess needs work -- but can anyone help?  Thanks, mike knudsen
-- 
	"I don't think so, Al"
  Programmers Do It on paper.  So do puppies.
	knudsen@iexist.att.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cdc,comp.sys.mips
From: abe@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Vic Abell)
Subject: how to read proc/user structures under EP/IX?
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:04:01 GMT

I have an application that needs to read proc and user structures
from the EP/IX kernel on a CDC 4680.  (It's an R6000a based machine.)
Does anyone have any sample code they might share with me on how to
do this.  I think I can probably decipher how to read the proc
structure, but the user structure is a more difficult challenge.
The system I most recently ported this code to, an SGI work station
running IRIX, kindly provided a syssgi() sub-function to do the job.
And of course, SunOS has kvm_* functions.  So far I haven't found
an EP/IX equivalent and I've looked at syscdc() and sysmips().

E-mail replies will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Vic Abell <abe@cc.purdue.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: cgarnett@unix.amherst.edu (Craig Garnett)
Subject: Re: Bad Sector
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 21:21:25 GMT

If you've got a copy of Norton, it'll mark the sector as bad and not let
it get used any more. The only problems might be: a) the bad sector is
in use by a file now, or b) Norton Disk Doctor doesn't like AutoDoubler.
If the sector's in use now, copy that file someplace else and then
delete it from your hard driver before running NDD. I don't think you
need to worry about b), but I've never used AutoDoubler with Norton
before, so I can't be sure....

-C
From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Apple doesn't have 7.1 ready on 800k disks!!!!!?!
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:16:11 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc

In article <933754.2AF16785@cmhgate.fidonet.org>,
Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix) wrote:

> No, you're wrong.  Apple has dropped the ball--again--with respect to not
> offering, or not readily offering, their newest system software on 800K disks.

If you have system 7, you order the version you want; it can't get any
easier than that.  The only difficulty will be for those people who have
800K-drive machines and who do not have system 7 already--and there aren't
that many of them who will be upgrading to 7.1.  They will have to buy 7.1
on 1440K disks, then phone an 800 number to order the 800K disks (lucky
that the disks aren't 900K <g>), and wait a few more days.  A small
inconvenience for a small number of people.  Actually, they would be better
off buying or downloading the 7.0 upgrade, installing it immediately, and
then ordering the 800K 7.1 upgrade at no cost (if they buy 7.0) or for
$34.95 (if they download 7.0)  (or get it from a user group instead of
downloading it).

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.programmer
From: drew@netcom.com (drew)
Subject: Re: Autodoubler
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 03:20:07 GMT

count me as another very happy autodoubler user.  i was nervous at first,
but no problems!

parkyn is right about word 5.  and norton's speedisk also goes underneath
the fsys so doesn't see the filetypes.  nothing goes wrong, but it doesn't
sort the files on disk as it should (does de-fragment and compact them)
and you must rebuild the desktop afterwards.

-drew@netcom.com


In article <parkyn.721079061@sfu.ca> parkyn@fraser.sfu.ca (Dale Parkyn) writes:
>I also encourage use of Autodoubler among my cliendts...
>
>Should be using at least version 1.0.7 (i) or 2 (i).
>
>There are some side effects from compression such as not being able to 
>use the Find File feature of Word 5.x.
>
>


Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:18899 comp.sys.mac.system:13799 comp.sys.mac.programmer:18102
From: iron@imag.fr (Francois Menneteau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: Color Disk Icons?
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:16:54 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France

In article <1992Nov4.170829.2772@ramon.bgu.ac.il> codish@chen.bgu.ac.il (Shlomi Codish ) writes:
>I *do* recommend speedy finder. It's a lot of fun, AND speeds things up
>when you use the finder. So far I haven't had any crashes due to it.
>

Unless you play with SimCity...



-- 
Francois Menneteau ()   __|||||__   () "... I had their lives in my hands
================== ()    /O   O\    () their fate their fortune in my visions
iron@imag.fr       ()    - .|. -    () No one believed in my true prophecy
================== ()     \=^=/     () And now it's too late."  (Iron Maiden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.programmer
From: parkyn@fraser.sfu.ca (Dale Parkyn)
Subject: Re: Autodoubler
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:44:21 GMT

I also encourage use of Autodoubler among my cliendts...

Should be using at least version 1.0.7 (i) or 2 (i).

There are some side effects from compression such as not being able to 
use the Find File feature of Word 5.x.
From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: DISRUPT 7.1 LINES
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:05:08 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc

In article <933750.2AF1677C@cmhgate.fidonet.org>,
Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix) wrote:
> 
> franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:
> 
> >     Never buy *anything* based on what it *might* do in the future.
> >
> SF>  Translation: Never consider Apple to be anything but average. 
> SF> 
> SF> I made this mistake, and continue to do so with Apple. You 
> SF> see, I do expect Apple to use foresight, and maintain a bit 
> SF> of loyalty with it's users.
> 
> Where, oh where is bc@apple.com with his little wallet card about how Apple's
> mission is to make the world a more pleasant place to live, to change the
> world, etc., etc?
> 
> Seems to me I went over this a few months ago--about how Apple is strictly in
> business to make money, whether that involves "changing the world" or making
> bra straps.  I was taken to task, somewhat vehemently, by some Apple employees
> and brown-nosing unpaid evangelists (Edward V. Wright comes to mind).  How
> _dare_ I think that Apple's just in it for the money!
> 
> I feel vindicated.  The Emperor has no clothes.

Adam, if you think that you're vindicated by Steve Franklin's ravings,
you've backed the wrong person.

You're half right, though.  Apple is in it for the money, but not just for
the money. If Apple were in it just for the money, they would be making MS
DOS clones and would have dropped the Mac long ago.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.programmer
From: pchang@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (The Weasel)
Subject: Re: Color Disk Icons?
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date:  6 Nov 92 17:30:58 GMT

ebido@bio.vu.nl (Etienne Bido) writes:
>codish@chen.bgu.ac.il (Shlomi Codish) writes:
>: I *do* recommend speedy finder. It's a lot of fun, AND speeds things up
>: when you use the finder. So far I haven't had any crashes due to it.
>: 
>: Shlomi
>:
>I use autodoubler and unfortunately it crashes with autoduobler.
>But speedyfinder is a great program. (I think copydoubler is a bit
>better) 

Unfortunately autodoubler seems to crash with lots of other things.
A friend of mine was trying it out, and found it to be quite unusable.

Peter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Distribution: world
From: bobg@edgeway.wimsey.bc.ca (Bob M. Grahame)
Organization: EdgeWays! InfoLink - A FirstClass GUI BBS - "The Edge of Communications and GateWays to the World." North Vancouver, BC Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 11:47:45 PST
Subject: Re: Laser Printer Newsletter Free Sample Copy

I would like to see your newletter.

Bob Grahame
2189 Capilano Road
North Vancouver, BC
Canada
V7P 3C1

Thanks!

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From: dwalton1@bach.helios.nd.edu (david walton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: MacTCP 1.1.1??????
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:21:03 GMT
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame

In article <UexcahO00iV2Q1d0kX@andrew.cmu.edu> gb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu (George J. Baxter) writes:
>According to System 7.1 README file, we need to have MacTCP 1.1.1 rather
>than any older versions, but darned if we can find it... We're apple
>developers, and did a search on the whole new CD, but nothing.  Does
>anybody know where we can find this??????????

Memory (as usual) escapes me, but I don't think that MacTCP has been
on any of the Developer's CDs.  It's generally been available through
APDA.  You might give the new Developer's Services Center a call and
ask them how to get ahold of APDA.  If you have a site license for
MacTCP, I'd guess that you'll get a new version without charge (but
don't hold me to that).

David



--
{  David Walton 	   Mail to dwal@midway.uchicago.edu  }
{  These opinions are all mine, and the University of Notre  }
{  Dame has no right (and probably no desire) to claim 'em.  }
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: dowling@hubcap.clemson.edu (Drew Dowling)
Subject: Re: Powerbook 145 vs 160
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:03:38 GMT

pw4963@sarah.albany.edu (Peter G. White) writes:

>One other question.  How would a student attending a university that does not
>sell macs take advantage of the student prices?



To my knowledge you can't.
Can someone else prove me wrong?
-- 
My submissions are not necessarily those of my employer, but the ought to be.
Drew Dowling                        CLEMSON UNIVERSITY 
dowling@hubcap.clemson.edu                  SC                                69
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith)
Subject: Where is the FAQ for mac hardware questions? 
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:38:45 GMT

Hi,
      Where is the FAQ for mac hardware questions? (I need prices quotes  
for an internal drive for an SE/30.)

--
Lones A. Smith
Department of Economics
MIT E52-252C
Cambridge MA 02139
v-mail: (617) 253-0914
e-mail: lones@lones.mit.edu  (NeXT mail or the garden variety stuff)
From: crussell@samson.hac.com (Chris Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Macintosh Finder's 2Gb volume limit
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:14:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: hacgate.23899
Reply-To: crussell@samson.hac.com
Organization: Hughes Training Incorporated, WCO

In article <6648@otc.otca.oz> sfinlay@otc.research.otca.oz.au (Stephen Finlay) writes:
> The current Macintosh Finder has a volume size limit of 2Gb.
> Is this the same with System 7.1?

In article 2704@novell.com, dseeman@novell.com (Daniel Seeman) writes: 
> Yes, the 7.1x OS has this problem.  FINDER treats one of the volume variables
> (GetVolParam I think) as a SIGNED LONG INT, so there are only enough values
> to support up to 2 Gig volumes.

Yes, I think almost everyone's run across THAT "problem" already.  Actually, I
just ran across a "problem" with the 68030 that prevents me from accessing more
than 4GB RAM.  :)

Chris Russell.
Internet: crussell%samsom.hac.com@hac2arpa.hac.com
GTE:      714/399-1620
From: Samuel Christian Zehr <zeh1@midway.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Mac 128/512 Software Sites?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A726DED1820150B0@ebcl-mac-15.uchicago.edu>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 11 Nov 92 16:01:21 GMT
Organization: Biological Sciences Division/Academic Computing
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:02:22 GMT

Hello, does anybody know where I can find software for an old Mac 512K?
I'd especially appreciate programming software. (THINK Pascal 1.0, or was
it Lightspeed Pascal?) FTP sites or usere's groups or about anything
would be nice. e-mail responses to zeh1@midway.uchicago.edu    thanks
From: gpwrcxe@gp.co.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: My Megascreen smoked up
Date: 13 Nov 92 13:02:22 +1300
Organization: GP Print Ltd, Wellington, New Zealand


	Gidday,
		One of our MAC MegaScreens has fried itself.
	Does anyone out there have any contact details for a company
	in Minneapolis called "ZYTEC". 

	Any and all information would be most gratefully received

	Regards

	Chris Evans
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: welchro@dsuvax.dsu.edu (Rolin R Welch)
Subject: Hardware question concerning modems
Summary: Is a Hayes type modem compatible with mac and how?
Keywords: Modem, Hayes compatibility
Organization: Dakota State University, Madison, SD
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:26:51 GMT

Hello--

I have a friend with a Mac Classic II and she would like to use a Hayes
Smartmodem 2400 with it.  From my very limited expirience with Macs, I seem
to remember a modem port (nine pin) on the Mac (although the machine that
I have knowledge of is now about 8 years old!).  If this is the case, can
I use a standard nine pin to 25 pin serial cable (IBM style) to connect
the Mac to the modem, or does the Mac have a different configuration.  If
it does have a different configuration, could someone out there give it
to me so I could construct the cable that I need. 

Please e-mail your responses to me.  Thank you.

Rolin R Welch
welchro@dsuvax.dsu.edu
rwelch@charlie.usd.edu



Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: fullmer@is.rice.edu (Robert Fullmer)
Subject: Switching the Active Application in Multifinder
Followup-To: celine@rice.edu
Summary: Just Click or similar init sought
Keywords: init to do it
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:31:41 GMT

I'm looking for an init that will allow me to switch from one
application to another (or cycle through open applications) from the
keyboard. I've heard there is/was an application called Just Click that
does this sort of thing, but was unable to find it on any of the usual
sites.

I want something like what FinderView does for the views menu, only for
the multifinder menu.

Thanks,

Rob Fullmer    :    celine@athena.mit.edu    :    celine@rice.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: rrwood@canrem.com (Roy Wood)
Subject: Re: HellFolder
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 17:50:25 GMT

In article <Bww2r5.4p4@unccsun.uncc.edu> msmcknig@unccsun.uncc.edu (Michael S McKnight) writes:
>
>
>Ok, here's the latest update on that darn Hell Folder.  For those of you new
>to this posting, here's the story:
>

< Story Deleted >


I had a similar problem pop up lately and finally managed to get rid of the
bloody file by doing the following:

-Boot up with System 7
-Run the "Disk First Aid" program to check and repair the hard drive
-Reboot with System 6.0.8
-Trash the folder and files from hell.

I normally run system 6 on the Classic, so I had trouble running the most
recent "Disk First Aid" until I booted from a System 7 floppy.  First Aid
seemed to do something to the disk, but I still couldn't trash the file or
folder.  I rebooted from the hard drive again (back to S6.0.8), and voila!
The folder and file from hell went quietly into the trash and have been
heard from no more.

Of course, most of the details of this switching back and forth between
systems is probably irrelevant.  I suspect it was simply a matter of
running the new First Aid program to fix the hard drive, then I need only
have rebooted and trashed the hell folder/file.

It doesn't make a lot of sense, but it worked for me in this particular
strange case.

-Roy Wood
From: smithc@amcl7.math.stolaf.edu (Christopher A. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Questions about InterCon & Internet Access
Date: 7 Nov 92 22:31:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN


Perhaps only folks in Northern Virginia can answer this, but don't let
that stop anyone else from answering!

I recently saw a small blurb about InterCon Systems Corporation,
located in Herdon, VA in MacWorld.  Methinks it was the September
issue -- I'm not sure.  Anyway, they supposedly offer Internet email,
ftp, and news access for $19.95/month (email only) and $29.95/month
(email, ftp, news).  A couple of co-workers of mine have asked about
this service since they would like to have access to the Internet for
the benefits of news, email, and ftp.

Has anyone had any experience with InterCon and who could describe the
service described (good English, Chris...)?

Thanks!

  ==================================================================
			 Christopher A. Smith
       German & Mathematics -- St. Olaf College, Northfield, MN
From: goer@ellis.uchicago.edu (Richard L. Goerwitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: what to do w/ Mac 512k
Date: 8 Nov 92 22:39:54 GMT
Reply-To: goer@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

I have recently come into possession of someone's old Mac (512k
model).  One floppy.  No hard drive.  What exactly can I do with
this thing?  Is it worth upgrading?  If not, what can be done to
it to make it useful?

Any help for this hapless UNIXoid would be much appreciated.

-- 

   -Richard L. Goerwitz              goer%midway@uchicago.bitnet
   goer@midway.uchicago.edu          rutgers!oddjob!ellis!goer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: wlarkin@hounix.org (Ward Larkin)
Subject: Wanted: Power Supply Recommendations
Organization: Houston UNIX Users Group (HOUNIX), Houston, TX
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 18:47:22 GMT

I recently added a couple of boards and some RAM to my Mac IIfx,
and now I'm experiencing some problems with the NTSC signal from
my TrueVision NuVista+ board.

My old system configurations was

Mac IIfx
8 1-Mbytes SIMMS
1 SuperMac ColorCard/24 with graphics Accelerator
1 TrueVision NuVista+ board with 2 Mbytes video Ram
1 Digidesign AudioMedia DSP board 


I wanted to upgrade to

Mac IIfx
4 4-Mbyte SIMMS, 4 1-Mbyte SIMMS
1 SuperMac ColorCard/24
1 TrueVision NuVista+
1 Digidesign AudioMedia 
1 SuperMac NuBus Video Spigot
1 Diaquest Animaq VTR controller


The problem was the NuVista+ NTSC composite signal was
unstable.  About every 60 seconds there would be severe
horizontal fluctuations.  The fluctuations would last
about 5-10 seconds then stablize for another 60 seconds.

When I removed the Diaquest Animaq board the problems
stopped.  Because of this my guess is that something is
either wrong with the Diaquest board -- it has previously
been unused -- or I'm overtaxing the power supply.

I think ( and hope ) that it's the latter.

I solicite and will appreciate any ideas and recommendations
how to determine the exact problem, and/or what I should do
to correct it.

-- 
-- Ward Larkin
   wlarkin@hounix.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Sean McMains <mcmains@unt.edu>
Subject: Re: Hooking Dous to a university of ethernetted macs...
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A725B8DB70020205@isbdeskmac.acs.unt.edu>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 10 Nov 92 12: 07:07 GMT
Organization: University of North Texas
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:07:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.061507.29372@mercury.unt.edu> Mark Interrante,
mi@ponder.csci.unt.edu writes:
>If one wants to buy a Dou and forgo the dock [till the cool third
>party ones come out in the spring] how would I simply hook up
>the machine to the ethernetted quadra under my finger tips in order
>to access its files and printers?

Probably your best bet would be to get one of the mini-dock things and a
SCSI box that does ethernet and hook right up to the network. Asante
makes good SCSI ethernet products, some of which I've used and highly
reccommend. This would allow you to run Appletalk protocols and do
whatever file sharing, etc. is necessary.
==========================================================================
Sean McMains <mcmains@unt.edu>        |          University of North Texas
==========================================================================
"An open mind, in questions that are  not ultimate, is useful. But an open
mind about  the ultimate  foundations either  of Theoretical  or Practical
Reason is idiocy." - C.S. Lewis
==========================================================================
From: bc@Apple.COM (bill coderre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Pict Files into Movie
Date: 4 Nov 92 16:48:19 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

The Quicktime Starter Kit contains a program called MovieConverter
that can quite handily convert PICTs, GIFFs, or what have you into a
mooV.

It's a really keen app, and no, I'm not biased at all by knowing the
programmer.

Yes, you have to pay for it, but you get a "free" CD of movies to play
with, too.

It's available in the usual outlets -- mailorder, dealers, etc, and
it's from that little company in Cupertino. You know, the one that
isn't allowed to sell software.

bill coderre
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc