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From: yourmom@storm.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman)
Subject: Weird places to play...
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 00:44:34 GMT

To add to the playing in bizarre places thread --

Over the last three days (the Blockbuster Bowl trip), I have played:
1) By our hotel pool.  We couldn't get to the hotel where most of the
alumni and team were staying, so we invited them over to our hotel.
Very few people showed up, but we played a few songs anyway.

2) In the hotel's nightclub.  They invited us in at about 11:15 New
Year's Eve, right after the above rally, and so we played again for
about ten minutes in a crowded nightclub.  Talk about hot and
sweaty...80 people playing on a small, crowded stage is just scary.
:-)

3) In a cul-de-sac in Boca Raton.  A really good friend of the Band
was visiting family, and he invited us over for a party and a rally,
so we played for him, his sister, and their neighbors, who then gave
us hot dogs, hamburgers, and drinks, and let us use their pool & hot
tub.  Very nice.  But playing in a cul-de-sac was fairly strange.

4) At the restaurant owned by the people whose house we played at.
They gave us lots of free drinks, so we played twice. :-)  Very cool.

Adam Elman
aelman@cs.stanford.edu
From: harold@celia.UUCP (Harold Buchman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: Bowl Bands in California
Date: 29 Dec 92 01:54:55 GMT
Reply-To: celia!harold@usc.edu (Harold Buchman)
Organization: Rhythm & Hues, Inc., Hollywood

Where in Southern California will these fine bands be rehearsing?






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From: haro@sable.jpl.nasa.gov (Raul Haro)
Subject: Re: LA City Band and Drill Team
Reply-To: haro@sable.jpl.nasa.gov (Raul Haro)
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:04:51 GMT



>Have any of you in the Southern California area heard anything about the
>LA City Band and Drill Team Championships?  As a former participant
>(El Camino Real HS 1976-1977) and instructor (Venice HS 1980-1982), I have
>an interest in how it's going.
 
>We now return you to your regular college band discussion :-)
 
>Rich Lamb

I would also so be interested as a former participant (Garfield HS 1979-1982).
If I recall correctly, they should have had the preliminaries  by now.

Raul Haro
From: csmith@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu (craig edward smith)
Subject: Re: Michigan High Step [Was Re: More U$C]
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 13:14:29 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.230016.7621@u.washington.edu> tonyamm@carson.u.washington.edu (Tonya May) writes:
>In article <1h850qINN49m@agate.berkeley.edu> timc@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Tim Castro) writes:
>>The Michigan Band came marching by in full High (Chair?) Step, playing
>>their lips off.  It was pretty impressive.  I don't know how they were
>>able to keep that up and do a show later on that afternoon.
>
>  They keep it up because they don't play like that the entire parade route.
>After the parade last year (while eating those greasy hamburgers) we talked
>to a few of the Michigan Band members.  We asked them why they weren't as
>tired and sweaty as the UW Band members, and they replied that they didn't
>play much (only three or four times) after the tv cameras.  When they do
>play they march high-chair step and play, otherwise, they either glide step
>or just "walk" the route without playing.  We heard a lot of complaints 
>from UW fans along the parade route that Michigan didn't play very much 
>(compared to the UW, who play almost consecutively throughout the parade
>route). That's how Michigan survived the parade and the show that afternoon;
>their director told them to save it for the show (the parade isn't that 
>important).
>
>
>Tonya

When I marched in the Rose Parade in 73-74 with Ohio State our routine was
six to five (glidestep?) for a while play one song at 120, six to five
for a while longer, switch to eight to five (high chair?) and play one
song and go immediately back to six to five. For the entire parade we would
play maybe ten times. We also had a rule about only every other player
playing, every other song. That way only half of us were playing at any
one time.

At the end, my lips were not tired, but my feet were.

And it seems a LOT longer the second time around.

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From: plucky@ais.org (Chris Adamson)
Subject: Re: LSJUMB's show at the Blockbuster Bowl
Organization: ACME Looniversity
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 04:24:49 GMT

In article <18559494@um.cc.umich.edu> R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu writes:
>What show is the SMUT planning for New Year's Day?  I don't get ESPN, so I
>won't see it.
>
	Hang on a sec -- the BallBuster Bowl is on CBS... so you 
won't see it.  Not unless CBS decides to quietly ignore the old
"you never show the Stanford Band live on network TV" policy.

	The shows for the bowl were initially suggested by contributors
to the Band's e-mailing-list.  Traditions of secrecy and the need
for plausible deniability if it sucks prevent me from describing
the shows here before they're presented... but if you think the
concept of the "Poulan Weed Eater Bowl" is a shitty idea, you'll
probably appreciate the pregame show.

> 
>My guess is that you will "inaugurate" Bill Clinton.  Do I get a spliff?
>(Do you expect a *tobacco* cigar from the LSUJUMB?)
>
	But since Bill didn't inhale (nudge wink), the Band
members wouldn't get to use the wacky and cool-looking fire extinguisher
smoke effect.

	Besides, knowing the Band, they probably voted 85% for
Clinton... with 10% for Andre Marrou, and 5% for fictional characters
and names of mixed drinks (the classic "Tom Collins / Harvey Wallbanger"
ticket.)

> 
>Rich Lamb, UCLA Band 1977-1981

Chris Adamson, LSJUMB Bonz R Godz, 1988-90
From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: Reading music off of flip folders....
Date: 18 Dec 92 02:36:30 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren) writes:

>raistlin@antithesis.engin.umich.edu (Douglas Treder ) writes:


>Four home games in four weekends?  That happened at Ohio
>State when I was there and we DID learn 4 different shows,
>complete with different tunes each show and NEVER, repeat
>never did we use flip folders.


The Cal Band never uses flip folders either.  (except for rehearsals)
I always found it nearly impossible to read the music while
marching.  Corps-style bands probably have an easier time of it,
but traditional bands like Ohio State and Cal have a more vigorous
marching style that makes it more difficult to read the music.
Memorization is the only way to go.


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From: strickle@charon.usc.edu (David Strickler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Bowl Bands in California
Date: 26 Dec 1992 14:37:55 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: charon.usc.edu

     One of the advantages of living in Southern California is the
opportunity to see the bowl-bound bands every holiday season. 
Accordingly, tomorrow morning I'm off to San Diego to inspect the
Illinois band in rehearsal.  Next week, Washington and Michigan get
a look up here in LA.  It's like a chance to OD on chocolate after
a year's fast.  Yeah, I can watch USC and UCLA, but neither
epitomizes *BAND* to me the way the Big Ten does.
     I've wondered why I'm usually the only outsider, seating among
the chaperones, watching these visiting bands.  Gotta be a lot of
people who love band as much as I do who would like a free look at
the best bands in the country.
     I also splurged for a $32 ticket in the beachers for the Rose
Parade.  Washington and Michigan, you had *best* be high steppin'
and blowin' your chops out when you come past *my* perch next
Friday.

Dave Strickler

Former field announcer, 
Gator Band of the University of Florida, and 
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From: yourmom@storm.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman)
Subject: Re: LSJUMB's show at the Blockbuster Bowl
Reply-To: aelman@cs.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 00:29:18 GMT

I second Chris's comment -- the Blockbuster Bowl administration can
screw itself.  Like he said, they screwed up our show by forcing the
announcers to cut the show a formation early, ostensibly because Penn
State went over (note to PSU people -- trust me, even if you did, we
don't blame you for it. :-) their time.  I'm wondering -- if we were a
real band with a much more tightly organized show, what the hell would
they have done then?

Personally, I think they just didn't like us and wanted to pull us off
the field early.

Another note -- our original pregame show, for those of you who may
have been there (PSU people, I guess :-), was _much_ funnier, and took
quite a few potshots at Blockbuster Video.  They mangled it at the _very_
last minute, and we had to scramble to come up with a different script
which wasn't nearly as funny.  Not to mention the fact that they
wouldn't allow our announcers to go on without a _written_ script in
front of them (like they couldn't do it from memory, oh no), so the
pregame show started late and our announcer accidentally missed a
formation.

But at least CBS didn't blank us out entirely.

What I _really_ hated about the Blockbuster Bowl, though, was the damn
commercials.  I kid you not -- they were playing commercials on the
big screen INSIDE the stadium, and they wouldn't let either band play
over them.  Both bands had exactly a minute to play after the
commercial before play started.  Since most of our songs are over a
minute, we had to make some last-second cuts, which were not ideal.
Also, because we had so little time, we had to play at the same time
as Penn State, which sounded kinda muddy, and we didn't get to hear
them play (nor they us) during timeouts.  Very lame.

Luckily, Blockbuster has apparently failed to renew its contract with
CBS, so they will not be sponsoring a bowl game again next year.  Nike
and Reebok have expressed interest -- maybe they'll do a better job
administering it.  I hope so.

Oh well.  We had fun in Florida anyway. :-)

Later,
Adam Elman
aelman@cs.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: sykes@donner.cc.bellcore.com (sykes,michael)
Subject: Re: >>> NEW SUBJECT <<<
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 18:24:03 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.224020@IASTATE.EDU>, knights@IASTATE.EDU (Andrew H Combites) writes:
> In article <1992Dec16.005034.932@u.washington.edu>,
> tonyamm@carson.u.washington.edu (Tonya May) writes:
> > 
> >   New subject:  Weirdest place you've performed a show.
> > 
> >   The Wisconsin Marching Band came to Seattle for their game
> > against the UW Huskies.  While they were here they had to 
> > perform on the FLIGHT DECK of an naval aircraft carrier.  Wierd.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> At Iowa State, we have practiced in the rec. center which is odd.  We have also
> performed at a High School game in Oklahoma where they fed us beans and
> cornbread for dinner and then the power went out in the stadium and we had to
> play in the dark.  It was really fun.  We also performed at the "Swamp Fox
> Festival" in Marion Iowa at 6:30am on a Saturday morning for a pancake
> breakfast!!!
> 
> Later,
> Andy Combites
> ISUCF"V"MB Trombone

I'm a newbie to the group but I marched with Norfolk State University in
Norfolk, VA for 4 years (85-89). We have performed at a few boxing matches
for Pernell "Sweetpea" Whitaker who was a student at NSU before he went
into boxing. I guess growing up in Norfolk would make anyone a fighter!!

Michael

(What's up John!!!!)
From: R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: LA City Band and Drill Team
Date: 28 Dec 1992 17:34:36 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Have any of you in the Southern California area heard anything about the
LA City Band and Drill Team Championships?  As a former participant
(El Camino Real HS 1976-1977) and instructor (Venice HS 1980-1982), I have
an interest in how it's going.
 
We now return you to your regular college band discussion :-)
 
Rich Lamb
From: rha@ralph.lafayette.la.us (Ruth Alleman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: Credit for band?
Keywords: (remember distribution usa)
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:10:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Home Sweet Home, Lafayette, LA

In article <1992Dec18.003311@IASTATE.EDU> knights@IASTATE.EDU (Andrew H Combites) writes:
>I was just wondering what kind of credit you guys get for beibg in your marching
>bands.  At Iowa State we practice an hour and a half each weekday and about an
>hour on gamedays for one credit and no grade!  I know some bands get more
>credit, and some get a grade to go into their GPA.  What's the scoop?

I was in the University of Southwestern Louisiana "Ragin' Band
from Cajun Land" from 1979 - 1983.  All members got academic
credit, 3 hours I think and the grade did count in the GPA.  For
most majors band also counted as the PE credits.  I got caught in
that, the administrators decided that for music education majors
(which I was) band could not substitute for PE.  So the summer
before I was to finish up the next May, I had to go to summer
school just to take 2 PE's.  ARGH!!  BTW, we practiced 7 hours a
week during school time, plus 2+ hours on game day, and weekly
sectionals.  Percussion and auxillary had more practices I
believe (though I generally try to ignore those types ;-)!).

>FINALS ARE DONE!!!!!

Yep, they have been for more years than I care to remember.. ;-)


Ruth H. Alleman
Low Brass is where it's at!!!!
rha@ralph.lafayette.la.us
From: R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: UCLA Rumor
Date: 25 Dec 1992 17:05:10 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Dec17.215353.2446@tessi.com>, allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
wrote:
 
|>Le Regiment (played during the famous 'Script Ohio' formation routine)
 
When I marched in the Royal Cavaliers Youth Band, our music called that march
the "French National Defile"  (pronounced de-filay, translated march).
 
I always wondered what OSU called it.
 
Rich
From: jnewsome@prism.gatech.EDU (John Newsome)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Marching styles
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:22:42 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I'm fairly new to the group and have noticed a lot of talk on the subject
of marching styles, glide step and Big ten style. I was a member of the
Norfolk State University "Marching Spartan Legion" from 85-88.  Norfolk
State is a division II predominantly black institution located in Norfolk,
Va. We are currently rated #5 in the nation among the best Predominantly
black bands in the U.S.(This according to a U.S.A. today poll) We march
with a total unit size of 170 with 128 musicians.  Our marching style is
intense high step which we term as "driving" with good reason.  Our goal
is military precision with marching so intense it totally intimidates the
foes that we come against.  We incorporate some glide step in our halftime
show for variety, but in parades we only glide step on our pass in review
tune which is called "behold". It sybolizes Spartan warriors going into
battle, and if you the pleasure of listening to it. It'll stand the hair
up on your head, and have you looking for the battle ground!! Our entire
band program in centered around the "spartan" theme and our uniforms are a
true site to behold!! One unique aspect of our band and the "driving"
marching style is that when we come marching past, you can here the
hundreds of feet pounding the pavement, and when we play, I really enjoy
watching the people move back from the curbside because of the thunderous
sound!! In band camp, we are requires to wear heavy combat boots to
condition our legs for the marching. A true test of our conditioning when
I was in the band was the Coca-Cola cenntinial parade in Atlanta, Ga. in
1985.  It was a 7 mile parade in the hot summer Atlanta weather!!
Amazingly we didnot lose one person to fallout and I also noticed most of
the band doing complete glide step in the parade were all sprawled out on
the grass fatigued out!!

I have only seen the Michigan band on T.V. in parades, and I don't see how
anybody can discredit them because they are truly awesome!!! They are what
people desire to see in a bowl parade!! Keep up the good work "Big Blue"!!


-- 
John Newsome,III  Center for Rehabilitation Technology
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia 30332-0156
Internet:  John.Newsome@arch.gatech.edu
From: R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Stanford Shows (was Band Announcers)
Date: 28 Dec 1992 17:31:22 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Dec11.174331.601@leland.Stanford.EDU>, cybe@leland. 
Stanford.EDU (Rajesh Krishnan), wrote (Band Announcers):
 
|>The LSJUMB is a scatter band, and given to madcap, zany humor that
|>often requires descriptive narration to make any sort of sense at
|>all. Announcer traditions?  We always start off with something along
|>the lines of...
|> 
|>"And now, back from their extended leave of absence studying the
|>mating habits of the tse-tse fly in darkest Africa...the only, the
|>only, the truly incomparable ..."                        ^^^^ 
 
Shouldn't that be "the ONE, the only, the truly incomparable...."?
As a UCLA band alum (and one-time LSJUMB ringer--for a U$C game, of
course :-), I've heard the announcement enough times to get it right.
I hope *you* and your buddies get it right!
 
|>and end with something like...
|> 
|>"The band was directed by Dr. Arthur P. Barnes.  Playing the part of
|>the drum major was Scott Stanford.  The mascot we lovingly call Tree
|>is Greg Siegel III (III very important). We're your announcers (fake
|>name) and (member of the B-52's)."
 
Do you know Claire Carlson-Quinn?  She was an announcer during the
early '80's.  Also, wasn't "the Fat Man" your announcer during the
late '70's?
 
Would you like some history?  Here is the text from the halftime show
of the UCLA-Stanford game in 1980 (as best as I remember it):
 
(Over the band running onto the field)
"The Incomparable Leland Stanford Junior University Marching Band 
celebrates the Presidential Election year by saluting the three
candidates.  Today, we dedicate our performance to Ronald Reagan
and begin our show by spelling out his name.  Mr. Reagan has made
many women in Suffragette City with his stand on the ERA."
 
(Band plays Bowie's "Suffragette City".  Starts in REAGAN formation
and then changes it to ERA GONE.)
 
(Over band running into next formation)  "Mr. Reagan has made his
views on evolution known by saying `It's only a theory.'  He has
other ideas on Mankind's beginnings."
 
(Band plays Chicago's "Beginnings".  Band first forms ADAM AND EVE,
then I DAM EVO, and finally I AM DEVO.)
 
"Mr. Reagan has said that trees pollute more than cars and has called
on our beloved Stanford Redwood Tree to change its evil ways."
 
(Band plays Santana's Evil Ways.  Starts in Redwood tree formation,
then "nukes" it, forming a (magic) mushroom (cloud)).
 
"If elected, Ronald Reagan will be the oldest president in US history.
He says this won't affect his performance.  We think otherwise."
 
(Band plays "Birthday" by The Beatles.  Spells out RON AT 69
(sideways!) and then spells out RIP IN 81.)
 
"In the interest of fairness, we will salute President Jimmy Carter
and independent John Anderson in future shows."
 
Hope this has been amusing and educational.
 
Rich Lamb
From: R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: LSJUMB's show at the Blockbuster Bowl
Date: 2 Jan 1993 17:07:43 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <C05qxE.16s@ais.org>, plucky@ais.org wrote (Re: LSJUMB's
show at the Blockbuster Bowl:
 
 
|>In article <18559494@um.cc.umich.edu> R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu writes:
|>>What show is the SMUT planning for New Year's Day?  I don't get ESPN, so I
|>>won't see it.
 
|>    Hang on a sec -- the BallBuster Bowl is on CBS... so you 
|>won't see it.  Not unless CBS decides to quietly ignore the old
|>"you never show the Stanford Band live on network TV" policy.
 
They didn't just quietly ignore it--they gleefully and loudly ignored
it!  They made a big point of saying they'd show the LSJUMB at
at halftime.  Unfortunately, all they showed was the $ from the
backside and then zoomed in to show the bandmembers from 5-10' away
during the next song so no one could recognize the tune or formation.
d-: !  CBS also did not have the announcer on.  This made the Banned 
look zany, but generally harmless.
 
|>  The shows for the bowl were initially suggested by contributors
|>to the Band's e-mailing-list.  Traditions of secrecy and the need
|>for plausible deniability if it sucks prevent me from describing
|>the shows here before they're presented... but if you think the
|>concept of the "Poulan Weed Eater Bowl" is a shitty idea, you'll
|>probably appreciate the pregame show.
 
The CBS announcers seemed to enjoy it! 
 
|>My guess is that you will "inaugurate" Bill Clinton.  Do I get a spliff?
|>>(Do you expect a *tobacco* cigar from the LSJUMB?)
|>
|>      But since Bill didn't inhale (nudge wink), the Band
|>members wouldn't get to use the wacky and cool-looking fire extinguisher
|>smoke effect.
 
Too bad!
 
The band looked very small BTW.  Whatsamatta U?  The University
would spring for any more plane tix?
 
Congratulations on the bowl victory and getting better coverage
than the Penn State Blue Band (surprise!).
 
Rich Lamb
From: strickle@charon.usc.edu (David Strickler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Bowl Bands in LA
Date: 27 Dec 1992 20:48:43 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: charon.usc.edu

For those interested, here are the rehearsals in LA this week:

Michigan: 12/29 2:30 - 5
          12/30 2:30 - 5
          12/31 9-11:30, 12:45-2
All at Santa Monica High School

Washington: 12/29 All day
            12/31 9 - 3
LOara High School

See you there?    


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From: jberger@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Berger)
Subject: Re: Parades and Playing frequency
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 19:07:40 GMT

In article <jgladu-301292114606@128.249.27.63> jgladu@bcm.tmc.edu (grungy (John F. Gladu)) writes:
[previous quote deleted]
>
>We do vocal numbers to keep our lips alive - play the intro, sing the
>refrain, play the bridge, sing the refrain, play the ending.  They're
>usually something that we have a full blown version of - this is just the
>vocal one.  Louie, Louie is our primary parade number (with a vocal version
>as well).
>
>glide step? chair step?  Nooooooo.
>we're not even *in* step - we just walk (and it took me several years to
>convince my left foot *not* to find the downbeat by itself)
[.sig deleted]

Ugh!  At NGHS (pardon my high-school references here; they're the only ones I
can make from my own experience), we avoid singing like the plague (but only
during marching season; Red Band is doing _Of_Sailors_and_Whales_, which
requires one to sing [we know; another school marched it for state]).  As for
Louie, Louie, it's strictly a pep tune (we *always* mark time and glidestep in
parades).

Thanx if you listened...


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