From: charliep@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Charles Patton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Re: NCSA Telnet cannot find config.tel?
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:44:05 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA

knapp@cs.utexas.edu (Edgar Knapp) writes
>>In article <u_banzai.711758211@mcl> u_banzai@mcl.ucsb.edu (Buckaroo Banzai) writes:
>>
>>>Also in my config.tel file, whenever I have hardware=serial in it I
>>>get the error "Could not initialize hardware level drivers" at which
>>>point Telnet seems to think I don't have a config.tel file and asks
>>>me to quit(which doesn't really quit) or find a config file.
>>>
>>>When Telnet boots up like this it is IMPOSSIBLE for me to get SLIP to work
>>>which it should, because SLIP requires ZERO network support. The
>>>problem being the damn menu never gets enabled.
>>
>>Same problem here, exactly. I mailed three bug reports to NCSA
>>already, each more detailed than the previous one, and about all I get
>>in return (after about a week has passed) is: "Gee, I haven't seen
>>this one, can you give me more details?" I mean, just go ahead and try
>>it yourself!
>>
>>By the way, I have a Mac II, 8MB physical, 16 MB virtual memory, 32
>>bit mode, System 7.0.1, tune-up 1.1.1. Problem occurs in both 2.5 beta
>>and 2.5 final.
>>
>>I definitely cannot confirm claims that Telnet has decent tech support. 
>>
>>Edgar
>>----------

I have several comments. First, I believe that NCSA is doing
a fantastic job contributing to the overall research and industrial
competitiveness of the U.S. You, clearly, have not had a lot of
experience dealing technical support from _commercial_ software
vendors. NCSA, in my experience, is above average on this score.
  
Second, I tried your described experiment on a IIx / 7.0 / 
tune-up 1.1.1 / 8Mb / 24bit mode with the following results:

Telnet 2.5B (MacTCP version) - serial line not supported.

NCSA/BYU Telnet 2.5 - same result as you descibed _except_ that
the dialog box indicated that if continued, only serial 
connections would be allowed (did you get this "fine print"?)

Having set up the connection to a slip server earlier and
having obtained the assigned IP# at that time, I choose the
"configure serial" dialog, entered the baud rate, etc. and
the SLIP IP#, and was off and running.

Hope this helps.

P.S. MacSLIP+MacTCP+NCSA Telnet(MacTCP-mode) is a superior
way to go. I wouldn't be suprised if NCSA dropped its SLIP
support altogether now that MacSLIP is available. From the
FAQ:
"		Hyde Park Software is shipping MacSLIP, a MacTCP extension
		with a Control Panel for configuration. MacSLIP supports
		CSLIP and a scripting language. Individual copies sell
		for $49.95. Contact info@hydepark.com, call (800) 531-5170,
		or write to:
			    TriSoft
			    1825 East 38 1/2 
			    Austin, Texas 78722
		for more information."

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