From: gjh@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Galen J. Hekhuis)
Subject: Re: still more of the GROUP, kevin darcy
Organization: University of Virginia Health Sciences Center
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:33:24 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.055952.24965@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
}In article <1993Jan4.132008.12165@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gjh@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Galen J. Hekhuis) writes:
}>In article <1993Jan4.051222.15504@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
}>}In article <1993Jan3.162045.18984@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gjh@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Galen J. Hekhuis) writes:
}>}>In article <1993Jan3.142319.12078@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org 
}>}>(Kevin Darcy) writes:

}>}>}I have never argued affirmatively for restrictions on abortion, Mark. 
}>}>}Deal with it as best you can.

Uh, you have said you don't like absolutes, certainly where abortion
is concerned.   You have disagreed with the statement that there
should be absolutely no restrictions on abortion.  Does not that 
disagreement imply that you argue in the affirmative for restrictions 
on abortion?  Deal with it as best you can.  I'm certain it will include
either some type of denial or you will claim that somehow it isn't the
same and doesn't matter...

Of course, you might just ignore it also.

}>}Do you believe everything that Keegan tells you, without even bothering to 
}>}check out the facts for yourself, Galen? 
}>
}>No, I read the article myself.  But now that you ask, if Keegan were to
}>assert that the earth was edible, and you were to say it was made of
}>rocks and dirt and other stuff that was inedible, I would probably take
}>a bite.
}
}I'd trust my OWN judgment long before I resorted to such behavior...
}
}Galen, are you _really_ so insecure in your beliefs that you'd start chomping 
}dirt just because of a silly disagreement between two guys on the Net?

Yeah, it would be a bit stupid, if that were the case, but it isn't.  I
said that I would eat it if you, Kevin Darcy, said that the earth was
inedible.  An assertion like that from anyone else might give me
some pause, but coming from you, it would be entirely different.
There are a few other people on the net that would rather insist
they are right than actually be right.  The name Peter Niykos comes
quickly to mind.  But no one has elevated it to the "art" that
you have Kevin.  My impression of you has not been created over
this most recent disagreement we have had in talk.abortion.  Rather,
it has been formed over years of witnessing your rather bizarre 
behavior in several many groups on the net.  Sometimes you say
good things, I'll grant you that, but other times you say some 
really off the wall things, and then steadfastly defend them, no 
matter how ridiculous your subsequent statements.

I'm not the only one who has noticed this behavior, either.  It
seems like I run into one of your meta-discussions with someone
else all too frequently.  More often than not, it seems that you
spend much of your time protesting that you haven't said what
you have, or you didn't mean it that way.  You hide behind 
things like context, definitions, spelling, etc. in a way
that boggles the mind, all the while asserting that
calling people by the wrong name or whatever you do in error
doesn't really matter anyway. 

You claim to have convictions, and that you only need be true
to those convictions, and damn everything else.  But on investigation,
you are extremely hazy or vague as to what some of those convictions
entail, or what they might mean.  Oh, I imagine they seem clear
to you, but you, above all others that I have seen, have great
difficulty expressing them to others in a fashion that, to
be rather charitable, is less than ambiguous.  

Kevin, you didn't enter the net with a reputation, you entered
as everyone else with a tabula rasa.  Face it, you have had to
work very hard to earn your reputation.  With some people I 
have to ask if they are a complete fool or just in training.
I don't have to ask the question of you -- you teach.


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