From: wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Nobody of Importance)
Newsgroups: rec.games.mecha
Subject: Re: MacII vs Daishi
Date: 24 Jan 1993 20:20:50 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
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In article <C1Cvnx.9II@newsflash.concordia.ca> kgnome@cs.concordia.ca (MATIS stephane) writes:
]
]Gene here again.  Ok, as to the under 150 ton remark, what game are you
]talking about?  Btech stops at 100, Robotech are fixed but the Mac II is
]huge (250 or so I think... it's been a while and I've rarely seen them
]used in play), and MTS has no limits.

It was a joke. Some people I've played Btech with just aren't satisfied with 
the 100 ton limit and kept pining for the fjords.. er I mean heavier Mechs.
I just got more artillery for support. :)
 
]As to the MTS Raider X... nope.  You accuracy would be similar but the
]range is still wrong (it's definately a football field model).

Oh well, generate some house rules for long range combat-- or build a Minovski
Particle generator and blame *that*!! :)
 
]As to Mekton admitting to botching the ranges on purpose... well, at
]least the don't use a B.S. excuse like "Targeting computer tech got real
]primitive but they can still make lasers and gauss cannons".  I'm still
]working on why Clan weapons have sucky ranges.... they never suffered
]the Succession wars... and why is Star League grade gear armed with
]those ranged weapons.... ack!  Tpphhptt!

Yeah, it is sickening. Though you could "explain" it by saying that combat
is so fast and confusing that pilots are forced to concentrate on more  
immediate threats and all the running, jumping and ducking makes long range
fire a bit difficult in that respect. Hell, an M-16 has a pretty long range
but it and other rifles are usually fired at much shorter ranges. Of course,
that doesn't allow for initial long-range weapons exchanges. Oh well.
 
]And finally, the MTS Warhammer.  I'm posting it here just so I can
]kind of say I didn't do it for absolutely nothing... at least I 
]posted it and someone, somewhere just might test it out... someday.
]If you do, give me feedback.  Hell, comment/flame/worship away!
]
] {deleted stats to save some space}
]
]Explainations for some stuff:
]1)  I tried to keep all the weights as close as possible, especially
]weapons.
]2)  I scaled the damage with the assumption that Mekton damage is
]somewhat exponential (look at the MTS missile description for details).
]3)  I used the shitty ablative armor (lots of it) to simulate the
]strip-off style BTech armor.

That's one real good reason to call it wimpy. Hell, GMs and Zakus from 
Gundam are better than this.

]4)  I put in the link to simulate the most common attack at short range
]for a Warhammer (everything but the kitchen sinks... er.. PPCs).
]
]Anyways, by Mekton standards, it's a pretty wimpy mech.  Lots of guns
]but it's slow (damn slow by Mekton standards) and it can't take a
]long fire fight (no endurence).
]
]That's it from the Canuck corner.
]
]Gene Marcil
]
]What happens if a Thor picks up a Warhammer and slams it into a Loki?

Is the Warhammer named "Mjolner"?

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