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From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Dungeon Master
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 01:31:32 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Hmmm..  further thoughts about Dungeon Master..

That's true about the Winged Key door at the bottom of the
Skeleon Key stairway..  maybe that's the door Rasmus was
referring to..
 
That door leads to a secret entrance to the Dragon's Room, from which
you can "hit and run" at the Dragon..  the first time I found m
way down there I somehow ended up with him trapped in there with
me...  so I hightailled it back up the stairs and came back down
the regular stairs into the Dragon's Room, leaving him trapped
behind the wall..!
 
The Winged Key is however, well hidden.. 

The Mace of Order may make your party move faster, but that's
because it increases the Load capacity of the Champion who carries it..

When I noticed that the Jewel Symal (I think.. I've gotta find my
notes on this..!) seemed to be helping regenerate health points,
my ladies and I spent a somewhat painful (for us all) time
experimenting.. 

I'd throw a LO fireball at the wall, and time how long it took for
one of them to recover their health without the medallion, and
then again with the medallion..   over time, it became apparent
that it did help..  but again, not enough to make a big difference.

Did accidentally bump your party into the wall, and find yourself
apologizing to them...?
 
                                                  :)
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 22:57:22 -0400 
From: Stefan Monnier <sm86+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Gemini

Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.atari.st: 23-Aug-92 Gemini Craig
Shore@kosmos.wcc.g (313)

> Is there an English version of Gemini available?

>  If so, where??

>  Thanks,
>     Craig.

> * Craig Shore  | Phone (voice)  | Internet:shore_c@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz    *
> * 20 Tasman Pl,|  +64 3 3852501 |         :craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz   *
> * Christchurch, New Zealand     | SLNET: 250:700/1266 FIDONET: 3:770/180 *


Sure there is: at a.a, of course ! (atari.archive.umich.edu if you don't know)

	Stefan Monnier



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From: anisko@usdtsg.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (anisko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: MiNT, shells
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:57:51 GMT
Reply-To: anisko@usdtsg.UUCP ()
Organization: NCR Corporation, Dayton


    I have a question regarding MiNT and related things.

    I finally set up MiNT 0.95 and have it call TC Shell.  I've set up the
paths and some variables, but have not quite figured out how to set up the
termcap to be used (my guess is a TERMCAP variable or something?).  I've tried
to run STeVIe 3.4 but can not cursor anywhere but down, so I'm guessing the
termcap may help.

    Also, how do I access GEM from Mint, without EXITing the shell?

    Since MiNT and the shells generally act like unix, is there some sort
of unix documentation that may help me with things like background
processes, etc?

    Thanks...

						Robert J. Anisko
						anisko@usdtsg.daytonoh.ncr.com
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: paetau@mits.mdata.fi (Rasmus Paetau)
Subject: Re: Dungeon Master
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:41:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.143713.5706@aston.ac.uk> wrighttj@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Auntie Tim) writes:
>Hmmm... You don't see much about games on this group, but since this is
>an acknowledged classic I thought I'd break with convention. 
>   Are there any Dungeon Master addicts/ expert hackers out there who know
>everything there is to know about DM? If so, I'd like to hear from you, 
>as there are still things I don't fully understand even after completing
>the game about 15 times (I did say addicts!) such as...
>   What do various objects do (Ekhard Cross, Rabbit's foot)
>   What advantage do you get from having a full set of Armor of Darc/Lyte
>   How is damage / armor calculated- why are some weaponds better for some
>                    monsters and others for other monsters?
>
>   Does anyone else even care? Oh well, sorry for wasting bandwidth ;)
>
>
>-- 
>Tim Wright.
>wrighttj@cs.aston.ac.uk


I'm not sure, but I think the person who carries the rabbit's foot
doesn't get as much attention from the monsters as the others do.
BTW, when you descend from level 14 to 15, you find a locked door. Did
you (or anybody) succeed to open it? I never did. What was behind it?
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From: terjeve@ifi.uio.no (Terje Vernly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Tiny Turbo
Date: 16 Aug 92 15:59:27 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Originator: terjeve@kolsaas.ifi.uio.no


Can someone out there give me some info on the Tiny Turbo 030 card?

What speed is it running the 68030 at?
How much RAM does it support?
Will it fit in a 520?
Price?

Thanks!

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From: dtarico@violet.ccit.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Slow hard disk with Spectre GCR :(
Date: 19 Aug 92 04:27:55 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Nntp-Posting-User: dtarico

I have recently set up a Spectre GCR on my system which consists of Mega 4
ST, ICD AdSCSI host, Maxtor LXT-200 disk drive.  Also, I have Spectre
v. 3.0, with a 50 meg partition formatted for Mac.  The hard disk writes
seem to be slower than they should be.  It works ok, and reads seem
sufficiently fast, but writes of large files seem slow.  
For example, copying Superpaint 2.1 from a Mac floppy to the hard drive
on my system took 1 minute 14 seconds.  The same operation on a real Mac
SE/30 took only about 23 seconds.  On my system, during the write to the
hard disk, it would pause so long that the light on the floppy would actually
go out while it was waiting for a part of the HD write to finish.
Is this normal, and if so, why??  Thanks!

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         Doug Tarico                      
    dtarico@ccit.arizona.edu 
      doug@sie.arizona.edu           
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From: erlingh@idt.unit.no (Erling Henanger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: Bug in NVDI ??(was: Re: Bug in TOSWIN?)
Date: 16 Aug 92 01:30:28 GMT
Organization: Div. of CS & Telematics, Norwegian Institute of Technology

In article <H.adLXo1afCzs@marsu.tynet.sub.org> wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org writes:
>In <1992Aug12.093923.1@uwovax.uwo.ca>, Eric Smith writes:
>> In article <H.&PuIzwvJfmU@marsu.tynet.sub.org>, wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes:
>> > I tried all combinations and without other stuff in the auto folder etc.
>> > Without success. Then I tried a minimal MiNT configuration on my old ST:
>> > TOSWIN had no problems!!
>> > So this is definetly a TT-only bug (or feature :-), and other German TT users
>> > reported the same behaviour.
>> 
>> In fact, I'm using NVDI 2.03 on my (North American) TT with TOSWIN, and
>> haven't had any problems. 
>> I've also tried a variety of different GDOS's with TOSWIN, and they've all
>> worked fine.
>> Perhaps there is a bug in the German version of NVDI? (The one I have is all
>> in English.)
>
>Very strange! I cannot see any logical reason why different language versions
>could be responsible for this bug. I am going to ask the guys from BELA at
>Atari fair next week about it. 
>
>Still wondering,
>Markus.
>
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Well, I tested this on my TT, and the bug showed up.
BUT in st-high-res it didn't show up, so probably it'll work
in TT high as well. Unfortunately I don't have a high-res monitor.
My guess is that Eric is using a TTM194 and thus haven't discovered
the bug (yet)...

Erling


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: vince@sci.kun.nl (V.G.J.M. Stoks)
Subject: Re: Forbes Magazine article
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:39:38 GMT

In <l7djejINN775@aludra.usc.edu> baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer) writes:

>In article <mikael.0y0o@terapin.com> mikael@terapin.com (Mikael Andersson) writes:
>>On the Falcon the ACSI interface is removed and there's only SCSI harddisk
>>interface left.

>	This is true.  But according to most (_unofficial_) reports, the falcon
>sports an internal IDE drive.  Therefore two drive interfaces.  Of course, it
>doesn't sound like you will be able to do much in the way of expanding it 
>unless you (like so many have done) rip it out of the small case and put it in
>a bigger, beefier, and more manly AT-case that has more pumpitude than the
>girly-case that Atari will use.  Yah - ya know?  Besides, you could only use
>at most two IDE drives anyway.  Pretty wimpy. (For all you non-SNL fans, 
>pumpitude=power and girly=wimpy=underpowered.  "Hey Hans, maybe we should
>flex." "Nah, we don't want to break their little-girly monitahs, ya know?")


>	BTW, I am glad that they went whole-hog and put in SCSI-2 - the only
>way to go at this point - but I don't know about taking out the ACSI port.  I
>mean, it might be different if the SLM604s had come with a SCSI interface, then
>going to pure SCSI external devices would have been a natural next step, but
>as it is, they will be leaving a lot of Laserprinting users high and dry 
>(except of course for those who either have non-atari laserprinters hooked to
>their (egads!) parallel port, or have non-atari laserprinters hooked to the
>ACSI port via host adapter (those are the guys that will whether this ok)).
>Of course, perhaps the wizards at ICD will be able to save their bacon by
>making an ACSI<->SCSI converter (I assume that presently available host 
>adapters will _not_ work as I don't know _that_ much about the mechanics of
>SCSI/ACSI).

The new Atari SLM 406 laserprinter has a SCSI interface (!).

>> 
>>Mikael

>-Michael

Sander SToks
vince@sci.kun.nl
From: baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: RAM expansion on the Falcon
Date: 14 Aug 1992 14:21:11 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <1992Aug14.131357.13446@aber.ac.uk> hrs@aber.ac.uk (Herbert Martin Sauro) writes:
>very similar (at least in concept) to RAM expansion on the TT. The Atari
>TT RAM expansion board has two problems as I far as I can make out, 1) it's
>*very* expensive, 2) it's also very difficult to get hold of.

	I'd like to add to this.  3) it is not very expandable (TTRAM) as it
only goes to 16MB.  The STRAM is not expandable at all (what a shame!)


> Instead most
>people I believe (including myself) opt for the German 3rd party board. This 
>too has it's problems though, it's expensive (not as expensive as the Atari 
>one), about 200 pounds (no ram chips) and it doesn't always necessarily work
>dependening on the TT motherboard, for example, I can never have the
>TT cache on because of timing problems (bombs out - yes they are suppose
>to be replacing the board but I've been waining almost 3 months already).
>
>The SIMM slots on the STE are an ideal solution, RAM is easy to install 
>and cheap, just look at the number of adverts for STE upgrades in British
>mags to realise how successful there are. Now why didn't they do the same 
>for the Falcon!? I hope RAM upgrades on the Falcon won't be expensive 
>as it is for the TT.

	I have to disagree, and for some of the reasons you mentioned.  If 
Atari were to have implemented a SIMM slot sort of expansion for memory, it
would 1)be expensive - to the cost of the machine, as well as to company-bought
SIMMs.  2)It would not be that expandable.  I mean, if the Atari board only
handles 16MB, do you think that a cost-conscious Atari would make the internal
SIMM handler go to more that that?  Just think, if they had done that, there
would not have been such a product as the German board that goes to _32MB_.
You would have been stuck.  The same thing goes for the Falcon - I hope they
haven't made the BIOS so brain-dead that it will not allow memory to be used on
the other side of the masked-out 2MBs -> you could have a memory map (similar
to the TT) which has the 0-14MB RAM ->14-16MB BIOS/IO/ETC -> 16+RAM.  Of
course, it still stands to reason that this shouldn't prevent someone from
making an accelerator similar to the ADSPEED or even the DX2 chips for INTEL. 
Both of these solutions require cache memory to be effective though...

>
>Otherwise I think the Falcon sounds like a great machine. I'd be interested
>to hear if anyone knows how it rates speed wise against the TT.

	I think it sounds pretty good - in fact, it looks to be targeted as
_the_ cheapest (near)professional music development platform yet.

>Herb
>-- 
>/******************************************************************************
>Herbert Sauro                                   e-mail: hrs@aber.ac.uk
>Biological Sciences                              phone: +44 970 622353
>Univesity College of Wales                                                    

-Mike
From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Article on FALCON in German mag c't
Keywords: falcon, review, c't
Date: 21 Aug 92 00:23:31 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au

paetau@mits.mdata.fi (Rasmus Paetau) writes:

>>   true color mode:
>>   - 320 x 200, 32768 colors
>>   - 320 x 480, 32768 colors

>Didn't Sam say 65536 colors at the GEnie conference? Anybody know for
>sure how these color-things are?

It is 16-bit, so yes 65536 colours.  The question is, how.  15-bits
(32768 colours) would simply map to 32 shades-of-red x 32 shades-of-green x
32 shades-of-blue - ie. twice the colour accuracy of the STe (4x the ST),
and unrestricted palette (ie. true colour).  Now, the last bit... well,
it could be a "half-brite" bit, or some such global effect - perhaps
thus giving even higher colour accuracy... but as for the TRUTH... who
knows... 32Kcolours is fine by me!  At least it doesn't exhaust all
of your memory like 24-bit colur does (16Mcolours).


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From: an375@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Baker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: High Speed Modems
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:20:28 GMT
Reply-To: an375@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Baker)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer) says:

>In article <L7LBPB1w164w@tcpbbs.pcn.org> joeadato@tcpbbs.pcn.org (Joseph Adato) writes:
>>charlie@mudhoney.micro.umn.edu (Charlie Demerjian) writes:
[cool hostname]
>>Supra has such a modem for under $300.00.  If I remember correctly the
>>price is closer to $250.00
>
>
>	Well, since I am looking at it, here in the Sept. 1992 issue of 
>MacWorld in the Mac Zone ad-section, they advertise a Supra V.32bis modem for
>$258 without (Mac) software and cables (378 with).

Computability has them for $209.  They also have golden image mice (for PC)
for $17, hmmm.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: pinelr@aix.rpi.edu (Rob Pinelli)
Subject: Re: Does it exist???
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:02:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.140439.16515@lut.ac.uk> rahin@scs.leeds.ac.uk (M A Rahin) writes:
>>In article <xcfyn0n@rpi.edu>, pinelr@aix.rpi.edu (Rob Pinelli) writes:
>>>   Hi.  I was wondering if there was a program out there, whether in PD or
>>>(more likely) commercially that is similar to the IBM program AUTOMAP.
>>>AUTOMAP, for those of you who don't know, is a program which basically
>>
>
>Autoroute is a very capable program and became very popular in PC arena.
>The ST version I saw was an early version and if I am not mistaken has
>not been updated. The PC version grew stronger and now supports some
>European countries as well.

   Well, I would like the US version of such a program if it exists.  I imag-
ine such a program would be easier to write for England, since it has fewer
miles of road per car than any other country.  Anyhow, if something like this
is out there for Atari, someone please let me know!


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From: hedley@iitinc.uucp (Hedley Rainnie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: *FOR SALE*
Keywords: Mega 4, Moniterm, Spectre GCR
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:26:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Integrated Information Tech.

Well it is time for me to sell:

	Mega 4 ST TOS1.4
	Toad 80Meg fixed + 40meg removable HD (1 Pack)
	ICD FAST backup tape drive
	Moniterm 19" B/W + display card
	Spectre GCR
	B/W + color Atari monitors
	Developer docs
	Software: Laser C, MW C, Numerous games + joysticks
	

	I would like $1500 for the above equipment. 
	
	Also unrelated but anyway:
	Casio CZ5000 synthesiser $200 + Music software for the ST

Hedley


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From: pjd@hpespjd.fc.hp.com (Paul Dorweiler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Atari
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:49:06 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Fort Collins, CO

In article <1992Aug13.182309.10852@pellns.alleg.edu>, heidelj@alleg.edu (Jason Heideloff) writes:
|> 
|> (stuff deleted)  
|> to deliver on any of "her" promises.  I am particularly disatisfied with  
|> Atari's performance because of the rumors I hear.  Rumors which state that  
|> the new Falcon will have the 68030.  Sure this is impressive for the  
|> average Atari user who is primarily an Atari user, but what type of  
|> company would put a chip in a new computer that is slowly becoming too  
|> slow.  For example, NeXT Inc. contained the 68030 chip in some of the  
|> first computers they came out with. Now, they are being shipped with the  
|> 68040 chip at approx. 33 mHz (if I am not mistaken).  In any case, they  
|> are soon going to be shipping their computers with a new chip which is  
|> supposed to be even faster.  My question is, why would any company, I  
|> don't care who it is, invest in technology which has surpassed and will  
|> soon be taken over by something else.  I would agree with them if they  
|> shiped their computers with 68040, but I can't believe that they would  
|> like to slow themselves (the company) down by installing yesterday's  
|> technology.  It just doesn't make sense.

Sure it does.  Remember that the Falcon is trying to hit an under $1000
price point.  Motorola 68040s are _well_ over $200 in quantity, whereas
68030s are below $100 (from what I've seen).  So if Atari wants to make
a higher-end version of the Falcon based on a 68040, they can sell it
for over $1000.  But, they're trying to sell to a home audience, rather
than the pricey NeXT audience (ever try to buy a NeXT machine for under
$1000?).  I'm certain not every Mac buyer is buying a Quadra right now
due to the high cost of those 68040-based machines.

--
Paul Dorweiler
Hewlett-Packard Company
Fort Collins, CO
email: pjd@hpespjd.fc.hp.com
AT&T: (303) 229-6030
From: eggert@lclark.edu (Jonathan Eggert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Forbes Article
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:07:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Aug14.190738.29762
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <1992Aug14.171723.16452@natinst.com> glens@natinst.com (Glen Sescila) writes:
>
> Jonathon Eggert writes:
>
>> There wasn't a lot of good news in the article, if any.
>
>	One (or two) good point in the article was that the Falcon 030 _AND_
>the Jaguar are both due out within 12 months (of the article).
>

Woops, I had forgotten about those.  Thanks for pointing that out.
Jon Eggert
From: ugafence@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (UB FENCING CLUB)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: is a mega-bus Y adapter available?
Date: 22 Aug 92 02:14:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


  I currently have a mega-2 with the TEC card installed.  This occupies the
processor bus.  I am considering adding an additional item or two that would
need to be run off of the bus as well.  Does anybody know where I can purchase
an adapter that would fit my needs?  Or is it blatantly impossible?  All 
comments would be greatly appreciated..

.Philip
From: ricks@tcpbbs.pcn.org (Sports Sysop)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Forbes Article
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 14:19:25 EDT
Organization: TCP BBS, Cleveland, Ohio

heidelj@alleg.edu (Jason Heideloff) writes:

> Can anyone summarize what the Forbes article said?  This is the first I  
> have heard of "The Forbes Article"....
> 
> Thanks,
> Jason Heideloff
> heidelj@alleg.edu


Jason, from what I've heard, it wasn't too good.  Also, next month is 
suppose to be part 2 of the article.

Rick Snevel
B&G Electronics
Cleveland, OH
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: proett@tailspin.nas.nasa.gov (Thomas M. Proett)
Subject: Re: Question RE: T1000SE battery
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation Facility NASA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 00:38:18 GMT
Reply-To: proett@tailspin.nas.nasa.gov (Thomas M. Proett)

I was having problems with my battery too.  I found that doing a
cycle of deep discharge/full charge several times restored it.

Run the computer until it turns itself off, then take the battery out and short a wire across the plus and minus terminals to completely discharge it.
If it gets hot, pause long enough to let it cool, but be sure it is
completely discharged.  Then use a variable power supply to charge the
battery at 5 amps for 30 seconds.  Replace it in the computer and let it
charge normally.  Repeat 3 times.  If you don't have a variable power
supply, don't do this because the normal charger will not charge a
totally dead battery.

Your mileage (and explosiveness) may vary (:-).

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