HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: smburke@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sean M Burke)
Subject: Re: J is for Joke...
Followup-To: comp.sys.hp48
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 14:46:19 GMT

In article <2b4fb7d3.2612comp.sys.hp48@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com> akcs.mmorgan@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Buckminster was crazy) writes:
>Why I don't believe in Rev. J.....
> 
>80186, 80286, 80386, 80486...
> 
>A, B, C, D, E, J??????

Well, believe what you want, but I'm sitting here looking at one, wishing it
was mine.

I wonder why HP skipped from E to J though myself.

>The equation writer being rewritten is plausable.  However, I bet that
>even Hewlett Packard employees do not use the equation writer.  It is
>a sales gimick that is otherwise useless.  Even if the equation writer
>were rewritten, I can't see HP releasing a new version considering
>all of the (foolish) demands for an upgrade that would inevitably
>follow.  Why make your cusotmers drool over a useless feature.

Also, I finally did some parallel tests on my roomate's version J and my E
in the equation writer, and they both seem to be the same speed.  When I have
more time, I'll try to do some more comparisons.  Wouldn't it be nice if
HP would include a list of improvements with each new calc like most software
publishers?


-- 
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Burke.63@osu.edu \_________ "You live and learn.  Or you don't live long."
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: qmdbms@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Brian Schott)
Subject: Re: hp48's appt prog
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:51:15 GMT

twh18@isuvax.iastate.edu (Phoenix) writes:

>	I found the appointment program (the short version) in seq.uncwil.edu.
>However, I can't find the orginal(long version) anywhere.  Does anyone have
>any ideas about which directory has it?

I just downloaded sch48 v1.1 from seq.uncwil but I do not remember the
directory.  I believe there is an index of directories, though.  Is sch48
different from the appointment program you mentioned?

>	Also, does anyone know which directory I
can find the ASC program >for PC's? (or on a ftp other than seq.uncwil)?

I found ASC listed in FAQ3 in its appendix A at seq.uncwil.


>	PS: the appt prg takes 7k in even the short version!  I wonder why...
>after all, all I need is a prog that can keep track about what things I shall
>do today...and the longer version is gonna to suck all my avalible 30k RAM
>out:)

I could use a todo list program myself.  I suspect there is an way to
create and maintain such a list manually, though (using variable or file
names as items on the list, for example). Does anyone have a suggestion? 


-- 
Brian Schott/Decision Sciences Dept.             qmdbms@gsusgi2.gsu.edu
College of Business Administration                         404-651-4070
Georgia State University                  interests: approx. reasoning,
Atlanta, Georgia USA 30303-3083     (B=)       decision support systems
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: jcook@cryo.rain.com (James Cook)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: wow!!!(new software from overseas)
Date: 10 Jan 93 03:00:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: cryo.jcook.0ne0
Organization: Cryogenic Software - Portland, OR USA
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.27b beta (Jan 02 1993)


Many thanks for the list of newly uploaded files to seq.uncwil.edu!
     
          Jim

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: qmdbms@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Brian Schott)
Subject: TODO & SCH48 questions
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 12:39:45 GMT


     In using my 48 with Levenson's SCH48 v1.1 and Cook's TODO
I have encountered several questions.  Could anyone help,
please?

     How can I create a "newline" character in an appointment
or a todo item? I would especially like this in the todo
application because with my limited memory I cannot create a
wide screen for longer items.

     How can I edit or delete a todo item? Once the item is
made part of the list, it seems to be uneditable from within
todo? Do I have to bring the list onto the stack outside of
todo? 

     How can I acknowledge an alarm without erasing it?
Frequently I need to quiet the alarm, but I haven't seen the
message. The manual does not seem to permit this unless it is preset
using one of the flags.  Is there no special key that can be 
pressed on an ad hoc basis.

     After using D->CA to access a particular calendar date, I
cannot set an alarm on that date. Is there a way to set an
alarm after using D->CA?  
-- 
Brian Schott/Decision Sciences Dept.             qmdbms@gsusgi2.gsu.edu
College of Business Administration                         404-651-4070
Georgia State University                  interests: approx. reasoning,
Atlanta, Georgia USA 30303-3083     (B=)       decision support systems
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: f_quan@pavo.concordia.ca (QUAN, FEDERICO)
Subject: calculator calble
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Concordia University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:13:00 GMT


Here is my problem:

I have a nice pile of programs for my hp BUT no cable...
Since I live in Canada, those little suckers are hard to come by
and very pricy. Lets see, I called a few companies (including 
Hewlett-Packard) and the price of a cable alone no books or
anything is 47.00 canadian.

My question is: Does somebody have spare connectors that fit the 
calculator and would be willing to sell them to me.  I need about 
four. If so please contact me at f_quan@pavo.concordia.ca

later
fred  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: mckeeveb@monashee.sfu.ca (Gumby - The unknown user)
Subject: Re: Exam mode in version J (var lock?)
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:26:28 GMT

kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad) writes:

>In article <2b51298e.2609.2comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com> akcs.joehorn@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Joseph K. Horn) writes:
>>
>>Not so.  Despite the obvious silliness of the idea, it's on its way in a
>>future machine.  -jkh-

>Sheesh.  Ok, what the heck.  (Now who's going to be the first to go out and
>buy a HP-48 that does nothing more than the regular models other than
>having the artificial stupidity mode?  Not me!)

I would.

Having gotten used to RPN, what would be the use of buying a second, dumb
calculator that's probably algebraic?

Amoung other things, it's costly (ok, minimal cost) and awkward.

-- 
    Rob McKeever  VE7ICJ  rmckeeve@sfu.ca  mckeeveb@sfu.ca  604-291-0457
"Do you know what standards are?  They're career paths for people who don't
 want to work!" - John Parkinson, Ernst & Young at the BCDMA Conference '92
       -*-          Standard Disclaimers should be adequate        -*-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: ec10@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Erin Catto)
Subject: Re: SounderKit for hp48
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 10 Jan 93 05:37:22 GMT

I downloaded this new SounderKit directly from the Uploads
directory at seq.uncwil.edu

Its an excellent toy and a remarkable achievement.

B.T.W.  Some time ago I wrote a space flight simulator
        for the HP48 in pure machine code (i.e. Star assembly)
        An added feature is the ability to steer in
        four directions.  However, it has a benign bug
        which can cause stars to not be erased.  Since
        I am using a Mac now, for which no compiler
        seems to be available, I can not fix the bug.
        Anyone interested in the source code or
        buggy executable is welcome to contact me.

[Zoom]
From: akcs.joehorn@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Joseph K. Horn)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:40:08 GMT
Subject: Re: Upgrading from Ver D->J?
Message-ID: <2b5124d3.2564.5comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

The HP reps at the HP booth at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas
told me yesterday that twelve (count 'em -- 12!) *SUPPORTED* entry points
have been changed in the rev J 48.  The HP41 Emulator card DOES NOT RUN
in the Rev J machine.

I do not know what those 12 entry points are, but it'll be easy to find
them as soon as a hacker gets his hands on a J machine.  EduCALC has none
yet.

-Joseph K. Horn-
From: akcs.kirkland@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Daniel B. Kirkland)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 03:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: QED 1.09 on seq.uncwil.edu
Message-ID: <2b4e3d21.2577.3comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

Bill,

Tried it again and it still works fine.
Must be a problem at your end.

Dan

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: mheiskan@hut.fi (Mika Heiskanen)
Subject: SAD with HP mnemonics?
Reply-To: mheiskan@vipunen.hut.fi
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Distribution: comp
Date: 12 Jan 93 07:36:42 GMT


Just wondering, has anybody out there converted SAD to use HP mnemonics +
entries.a?
--
--> mheiskan@vipunen.hut.fi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu (Gerald G. Marfoe)
Subject: 48SX-to-Mac interface questions
Keywords: 48SX, Mac LC II, Serial Interface Kit
Reply-To: gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:09:34 GMT

Hi folks, I just got my HP-48SX with a Mac serial port cable yesterday from
Elek-Tek. 

I ordered the Mac serial port cable without realizing that I'd need the
software for the Mac. Do I have to purchase the complete Serial Interface Kit
for the Mac, or can I get the necessary software by ftp, and if so, where?
Should I use the modem port or the printer port for the Mac serial cable 
interface to my 48SX?

Can VersaTerm PRO for the Mac be used with the HP-48SX for the Kermit file
transfer sessions?

Please excuse my ignorance - I'm barely a novice on the 48SX.

Thanks in advance,

Gerald Marfoe
gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu

P.S. If anybody wants, I'll post a summary of the replies I get.
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From: akcs.levenson@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (william j. levenson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: QED 1.09 on seq.uncwil.edu
Date: 9 Jan 93 02:40:03 GMT

GREAT!!  I'm glad QED1.09 is now on seq.uncwil.edu but I have one
problem...I can't get a good file transfer.  I think the upload to seq is
corrupt.  Anyone get a good copy??????  HELP, Lutz!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: calla@ecf.toronto.edu (CALLA DOMENICO A)
Subject: Arkanoid and Libraries: what to do ?!
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:04:31 GMT

I downloaded the Arkanoid game that was posted here recently (the one from 
France, I guess) and discovered it is a LIBRARY.  I read the manual on how
to attach a lib to a directory, etc, etc... but have had no luck in running
the game.
Do I need a memory expansion card (I have a 48sx with no cards) to run this
library?
ANy help would be, well, helpfull!

Thanks
Dom

-- 
---------------------------clip-to-save!------------------------------------
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Electrical Engineering    --------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Boulder DasHP HELP!!!!
From: cvadrgyi@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Date: 7 Jan 93 04:51:26 PST
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvadrgyi

Can someone please tell me how I can get Boulder DasHP to work???  I decoded it
on my mac them downloaded it to my HP and I get garbage instead of a Library
statment.

Thank You
M.G.
From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Newbie Programming Question: Help!
Date: 11 Jan 93 02:24:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: miser.STEVEV.93Jan10182435
Organization: University of Oregon Chemistry Stores
NNTP-Posting-Host: miser.uoregon.edu
In-reply-to: makovsky@scsuc.ctstateu.edu's message of 10 Jan 93 21:44:00 GMT

In article <10JAN199316445615@scsuc.ctstateu.edu>
makovsky@scsuc.ctstateu.edu (MAKOFSKY,STEVEN) writes:

   Hello All.... Just picked up my HP48sx 2 days ago, and, wow,
   what a machine. Anyways, I was wondering, what do I need to
   start programming for it. Ive seen several compilers.. So,
   what do I need to get me off and running?  Thanks!

You have all you need to start programming it right now.  The HP
48 includes a powerful, useful programming language called RPL.
Your manuals should cover it in enough detail to get you started.

Once you have mastered RPL (often also called "user RPL") then
you may want to learn the more advanced discipline of system RPL.
User RPL is designed to be very robust so that programming
mistakes are not likely to result in data loss.  System RPL is
the language that most user RPL words have been written in.
System RPL is much faster but also much less forgiving; system
RPL words generally assume that you are giving them the right
arguments and not satisfying those requirements may result in
severe crashes.  However, many programmers find system RPL to be
excellent for developing more sophisticated applications where
speed and precise control of the HP 48 are important.

Finally, there is Saturn machine language.  The Saturn is a
unique processor with some very nice features and some
interesting quirks.

As I said before, you can program the HP 48 in user RPL right out
of the box; all the necessary software is built-in (a simple
program editor and a debugger).

There are two main options for programming in system RPL -- the
HP Tools kit, which runs on MS-DOS machines and includes a system
RPL compiler and Saturn assembler; or Detlef Mueller's <-RPL->
library, which runs on the HP 48 itself.  <-RPL-> is my favorite,
although you will need a memory expansion card to use it since
the table of system RPL words requires about 22K.  The HP Tools
RPLCOMP is apparently similar to the development system used to
write the HP 48 system software, and may be a better choice for
very large applications.

The two most popular Saturn assemblers are the SASM assembler in
the HP 48 Tools kit and Jan Brittenson's STAR assembler.  My
personal preference is STAR since it uses an alternative Saturn
mnemonic set that is much more similar to standard assembly
languages; SASM has many devotees as well.
--
Steve VanDevender 	stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu
"Bipedalism--an unrecognized disease affecting over 99% of the population.
Symptoms include lack of traffic sense, slow rate of travel, and the
classic, easily recognized behavior known as walking."
From: akcs.wiley@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Paul Abbott)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 09:40:04 GMT
Subject: Seattle BBS closing??
Message-ID: <2b495419.2563comp.sys.hp48@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Keywords: seattle bbs

please read the message of the same name in comp.sys.handhelds. I am
considering closing the R.P.N. BBS and would like your input on the
matter.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: csmith@student.business.uwo.ca (chris smith)
Subject: Ni-Cad batteries in HP48s ???
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:45:03 GMT

What would happen if Ni-Cad batteries were use instead
of regular ones?  
Any ideas?

csmith@student.business.uwo.ca (chris smith)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
From: speck@urz.unibas.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Serial Transfer Question ...
Date: 4 Jan 93 10:45:57 MET
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland


Hello everyone !
I've a little question concerning serial transfer:
Is it possible (and how) to use the hp48 with any baudrate or does it
only work with the ones from the setup-menu ?

Please send me your answers ...  thanks

thomas

e-mail:speck@urz.unibas.ch

From: akcs.mmorgan@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Captain Morgan)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: Rev. J?  (Not)
Message-ID: <2b4afc97.2571.1comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

Also, did you know that the word gullible is not in the dictionary?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: brianw@iat.holonet.net (Brian Walsh)
Subject: Re: Moving directories (was: Re: some general questions for HP48)
Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access BBS: 510-704-1058/modem
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:50:50 GMT

jurjen@gamma.irdeto.nl (/home/other/jurjen/.name) writes:
: There is a solution to this problem, but it needs a system RPL specialist to
: program:
: 
: (If you don't know about system RPL don't try reading this :-)
: - make a TEMPOB copy of all variables in the directory
: - recall the directory
: - purge the directory with the regular PURGE
: It might be an idea to program a RCLPURGE command that works on all objects.
: Don't forget to check for ROMPTRs!

So, Jurjen, where's your clever implementation of this? :)
-- 
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From: dwhall@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Dean W Hall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: {_Idea: HP48 + HardDrive
Summary: Idea: HP48 + HardDrive
Keywords: HP48 harddrive storage memory
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:31:45 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu


  I hate to create vaporhardware, but this idea is too goodto pass up.
On page 132 of _Byte_magaizine (July 1992) is an article on HP's new
KittyHawk harddrive  It's size i2" x 1.4" x .4" high.  
  HP says that this 5 HP48SX's cardslot is. 
HP says that this drive requires 1.5W for a read and
1.7W for a write  and the drive can withstand a 100g shockk.
 Continue to use the 32k for RAM and add another 32k for caching, and
VIOLA : 14 - 21.4 Megs for the HP48SX!!!.
  Isounds off-base, but if it could work...
So, if anyone knows an Engineer in 's HandHeld department, send him
th idea.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: mox@vpnet.chi.il.us (William Moxley)
Subject: Re: wow!!!(new software from overseas)
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 05:47:13 GMT

ruhtra@turing.toronto.edu (Arthur Tateishi) writes:
>mox@vpnet.chi.il.us (William Moxley) writes:
>>How about posting them here?
>
>Because there is comp.sources.hp48 newsgroup which is meant for such
>things and accommodates automated archival using rkive.

I agree that would be preferable, but is their something wrong with
comp.sources.hp48?  I haven't seen a post their in a long time.  Maybe
it's a local problem or something.

		William Moxley
		mox@vpnet.chi.il.us

From: akcs.levenson@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (william j. levenson)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:40:02 GMT
Subject: QED 1.09 - important bug fixed
Message-ID: <2b48bf08.2503.1comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

Has anyone been able to find QED v1.09 on seq.uncwil.edu???  I looked and
couldn't find it.  THANKS

Bill Levenson
From: FELSON_ADJ@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: ?: how to check if alarm turned calc on
Date: 9 Jan 1993 10:20:33 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I remember this question being asked before, but I don't
remember ever seeing a satisfactory answer... so here
goes again:

Is there some way to detect if the HP48 was turned on by an
alarm as opposed to the user?  I don't like having the calc get turned
on by an alarm, and then being left on until the autoshutoff timer times out.
It would be handy for the alarm to check if the calculator was off previously,
and turn the calculator back off upon completion.

I tried something like:
  << 1 SF OFF 0 CF >> BYE STO
  to set flag 1 while the machine was off, but it seems that when
  an alarm arrives, the programs completes ( instead of being
  interrupted ) before the alarm is executed.


thanx in advance,

__a__d__a__m__
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: sweet@ug.cs.dal.ca (garth r sweet)
Subject: Re: String Writer library
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:02:34 GMT

x89beimler@gw.wmich.edu wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone had any documentation (English prefered, but 
> French acceptable) for the Sting Writer library (in the upload directory
> at seq.uncwil.edu).  I have found it to be VERY useful while playing with
> it today, and was hoping someone had more about the keyboard use while
> editing, and what the commands EED and VZ do, and how the \->FNT command
> works.
> 

	Not that I have any docs, but I too have been trying it and like
it, but the arrows keys are SO fast, one touch and POW I'm across the 
screen. I can't use it it's so fast. Anyone know a cure? It looks real
good.

+---------------------------+-------------------------------------------------+
+ name : Garth Sweet        +            Ultra-Mini HP 48 FAQ                 +
+ email: sweet@ug.cs.dal.ca +                                                 +
+ phone: 902-865-8987       +     FAQ = (F)requently (A)sked (Q)uestions      +
+---------------------------+-------------------------------------------------+
+ Q: Where can I get HP 48 stuff?  A: EduCalc 1-800-535-9650 24hrs (Can/USA)  +
+ Q: Where can I ftp HP 48 files?  A: seq.uncwil.edu has a ton of stuff       +
+ Q: How do I get files to my HP?  A: You need a cable, check real FAQ        +
+ Q: Where is the real FAQ?        A: At seq.uncwil.edu of course!	      +
+ Q: What's FTP anyway?            A: Mail me!	                              +
+ Q: How do I get help on my HP?   A: Post questions. We don't bite. *SMILE*  +
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

From: akcs.levenson@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (william j. levenson)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:40:03 GMT
Subject: Re: Entry points
Message-ID: <2b4c89aa.2581.1comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

For a listing of Hp supported and non-HP supported entry points with some
explaination of their functionality, get ahold of the "entries" lists
compiled by Mika Heiskanan.  Last time I looked, the latest entries lists
were available via ftp to seq.uncwil.edu in the hp48/Uploads directory. 
If they are not there, hunt around at seq.  Or maybe someone can give you
more direction...Mika???

Good Luck!

Bill Levenson
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