HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gosper@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Carsten)
Subject: Re: How does a PI locate somebody?
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 07:54:46 GMT

>Back in the '70s I read that a minimal identity package
>(birth certificate, driver's license, maybe a few other
>items) could be obtained for four or five hundred dollars.
>I don't know what the fee is these days.  But I'm sure
>that at less than the price of a good used car, out of
>sight is just around the corner.

About three years ago (back in high school days...) I was offered a
fake identity package consisting of  birth certificate, driver's license,
passport etc. for around $750. I was told that it would take about a month
or two to get get whole thing... 
I'm not quite certain wether the guy was bluffing or not - wouldn't hurt
finding out, though. Never know if you might need it some day.

Don't get caught in the act !
carsten

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   cae@dcon1.hmi.de
From: dlupul@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Darren Lupul)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
Subject: Re: Current InHome pricing?
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 01:19:42 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

- I got screwed by InHome on a Vasopressin order (they took my money, sent
- no drugs, ignored faxes, letters, and phone calls over a six-month
- period). I understand they've been closed down, anyway. I'd suggest
- another source.

I have an order pending for 4 months now. I just talked to them yesterday 
and they seemed quite shocked about the delay and said they would look 
right into it. Hopefully it will come through, she said the piracetam was 
shipping out of Belgium or Netherlands...


Darren Lupul              dlupul@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
Xref: sparky alt.psychoactives:1751 alt.drugs:20827 talk.bizarre:44322
From: lobaugh@a.chem.upenn.edu (John Lobaugh)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives,alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Leary, Manson, Kleps and other questions...
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:00:34 GMT
Followup-To: alt.psychoactives
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Dec28.205303.0917409@locus.com> yazz@locus.com (Bob Yazz) writes:
>bprofane@netcom.com (Gert Niewahr) writes:
>
>| Charlie [Manson]'s getting out, folks.  Maybe not now, but soon enough...
>
>I wouldn't bet on it.  Here in California, the governor has the authority
>to veto any parole-release decision.
>
>So no prisoner will get out unless the governor decides he or she is
>willing to take the political heat for it.

I saw this posted to alt.evil once:
Anybody see the Charlie Manson interview on The Ron Reagan Show?  He was
asked what he felt most guilty about and his reply went something like this:

Once I was in Acapulco and some people took me in because I had sustained
a head injury while cliff diving.  While I was recuperating, I taught their
parrot to say "Mother Fucker."  I'll never forget that parrot flying down
the hallway screeching out "Mother Fucker."  I've felt really bad about that
ever since.

Evil food for thought.
-- 
John  lobaugh@a.chem.upenn.edu
From: ralf@ark.abg.sub.org (Ralf Stephan)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
Subject: Re: Archaic Revival -- by Terence McKenna
Date: 05 Jan 93 11:16
Organization: Not Very Ltd.

As there could have happened only a genetic change and a *direct* mutation
by psychedelics does not exist (we don't want WoD to use this argument 8-),
this does not exclude an indirect change induced by the effects of psych-
edelics on the brain (the results that LSD doesn't cause mutations are
derived from experiments with sperm alone, no brains involved).  In fact,
there is nothing known about the brain's control over DNA.  In fact, even
in E.coli cultures there seem to be effects that can only be explained by
directed mutation (see Cairns?).

ralf
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Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives,alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
From: mjharris@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Harris)
Subject: Re: Leary, Manson, Kleps and other questions...
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 17:18:17 GMT

bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B)) writes:

>In article <1992Dec31.173955.24318@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mjharris@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Harris) writes:
>>aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri) writes:
>>>>In responding to this; if your only info source is Helter Skelter (the
>>>>book, not the movie)
>>>There's a book and movie?  I thought it was just a Motley Crue song 8^)
>>Beatles damn it! You young guys.... When I was your age I used to walk to
>>school every day with no soles on my shoes. If we wanted a radio we
>>*built* one from old scraps lying about the house (well actually not a
>>house, just a corridor really). And we *liked* it. (-:

>Don't laugh, there is a movie at least - "The Helter Skelter Murders" - 
>in B&W though it must have been made in the 70's (forgot to look at the
>year).  It was VERY VERY bad.  Wretched.  I rented it last night because
>I wanted SOME info o what the cult of Manson was about, why LSD is associated
>with it, etc (I'm sorry, but I just CANNOT see how an ego-destroying drug
>like LSD or a peaceful drug like MJ can be associated with murder).  The movie
>gave NO insight into this.  The only word or idea we have from Manson is his
>chanting about the helter-skelter apocalypse and some very generic brain-
>washing, with three females repeating after him.  Icky icky.  Joe-bob says
>DON'T check it out.  Get the time-life series instead  :)

>	Brian

Yeah but I wonder if it isn't possible that by some wierd coincidence
Manson and his followers were borderline psychotics to begin with. In a
case like this it is possible that LSD added to their problems and created
a false reality that eventually *had* to bump against what society in
general had as its reality. 

LSD can be very dangerous this way. It can induce delusions of grandour and
psychotic tendencies. I believe one of its main effects is to show the
possibility of other realities and the arbitrary nature of what we accept
as "real". I don't know if this effect is caused by delusion or revelation
but whichever, it is a mistake to believe that your consiousness can over
power or cancel out someone else's particularly the collective consiousness
of most of society. I think it is *very* important to be well grounded in
left brained stuff -logic rationality ect. before going into an experience
of this type.

--
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InterNet: mikeh@tenet.edu

Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
From: mathers@sibelius.trl.OZ.AU (Steven Mathers)
Subject: Re: Cubensis
Reply-To: s.mathers@trl.oz.au
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:37:55 GMT

|> In the one mushroom book I have seen in Australia, P. subaerignosa
|> is listed as poisonous and hallucinogenic, but P. cubensis is listed
|> only as hallucinogenic. I am sceptical about the poisonous listing, 
|> but I would check it out more carefully. 

a)  How should I go about checking it out more carefully?

b)  If it is poisonous, what type of toxic effects would it have?

ie:  alcohol is poisonous, but I dont mind drinking that now and
			again, because in moderation, its effects are not permanent
			or significant.  On the other hand, I have heard that some
			nasties found in mushrooms cause things like liver damage,
			and linger in the system because the body can't get rid of
			them or break them down.

Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
From: mathers@sibelius.trl.OZ.AU (Steven Mathers)
Subject: Re: Anandamide
Reply-To: s.mathers@trl.oz.au
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:04:20 GMT

In article <8fIhPgO00UhBQ1JM4m@andrew.cmu.edu>, "Charles D. Nichols" <cn0p+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
|> I came across a couple interesting articles in "Science".  Its a few
|> weeks old and I've been away from the terminal on vacation, but I
|> haven't seen it posted yet.  It seems that a group has isolated the
|> endogenous ligand for the THC binding receptor :
|> 
|> "Arachidonylethanolamide, an arachidonic acid derivative in porcine
|> brain, was identified in a screen for endogenous ligands for the
|> cannabinoid receptor.  The structure of this compound, which has been
|> named "anandamide" [coined from the sanskrit word "ananda," meaning
|> bliss], was determined by mass spectrometry and nuclear magnetic
|> resonance spectroscopy and was confirmed by synthesis.  Anandamide
|> inhibited the specific binding of a radiolabeled cannabinoid probe to
|> synaptosomal membranes in a manner typical of competitive ligands and
|> produced a concentration-dependent inhibition of the electrically evoked
|> twitch response of the mouse vas deferens, a characteristic effect of
|> psychotropic cannabinoinds.  These properties suggest that anandamide
|> may function as a natural ligand for the cannabinoid receptor"
|> 

Aha!  Riiigght!  Gotcha.  

WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT MEAN?!?!
From: jcollier@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (John Donald Collier)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
Subject: Re: Cubensis
Date: 7 Jan 1993 22:19:46 +1100
Organization: University of Melbourne
NNTP-Posting-Host: ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au

ebenami@igc.apc.org (Etan Ben-Ami) writes:

>  Psylocibe Subaerignosa isn't listed in the Psychedelic Dictionary,
>my only source handy.  They do have a pointed warning to avoid
>Galerina autumnalis, which is poisonous, when picking Ps. stutzii
>in the northwest.  It seems that there are more species of Ps. than
>are normally written about. << you bet!!

In the one mushroom book I have seen in Australia, P. subaerignosa
is listed as poisonous and hallucinogenic, but P. cubensis is listed
only as hallucinogenic. I am sceptical about the poisonous listing, 
but I would check it out more carefully. P. cubensis is found in
Queensland, while P. subaerignosa is more common in the south, in 
wooded areas. There are at least 8 species of P. in Australia, but
these are the best known. Like most mushroom genera, P. hybridise
easily, and intermediate forms are common. This is why you sometimes
get quite a surprise when you eat what you have always thought to
be a fairly gentle sort of mushroom.

Galerina can be easily confused by the confused for a P stutsii, for
sure. it is quite distinct, if you are alert, and know what you
are looking for. G. autumnalis contains the same poison as the
deadly amanitas. Not only that, but it isn't hallucinogenic. G. species
and P. species are quite distinct to the connoiseur, however, at least
as distinct as dogs and cats, probably more so.
-- 
John Collier 			Email: jcollier@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
HPS -- U. of Melbourne		  	Fax:   +61 3 344 7959
Parkville, Victoria, AUSTRALIA 3052
From: landman@hal.COM (Howard Landman)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
Subject: Re: Cubensis
Date: 8 Jan 93 01:57:00 GMT
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: bang.hal.com

In article <1993Jan5.233617.12010@trl.oz.au> s.mathers@trl.oz.au writes:
>There is a species which grows here called
>Psylocibe Subaerignosa (spell?) which is related to Cubensis,

Maybe you mean Psilocybe Subaeruginosa?  I've heard of this, I'll have to
check my reference materials.

	Howard
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
From: dlr@well.sf.ca.us (David L Racette)
Subject: Re: SF Bookstores
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 03:48:18 GMT

In <1993Jan4.065642.25354@fuug.fi> an2506@anon.penet.fi (paracelsus) writes:

>I'm going to be in San Francisco soon, and I'm looking for recommendations
>on good bookstores that carry material on psychoactive compounds.
>Addresses and phone numbers of stores would be greatly appreciated.
>Pointers to other places to visit deling with similar topics would
>also be welcome.
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>Due to the double-blind system, any replies to this message will be anonymized,
>and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned.
Shambala in Berkely is good.

dr
From: hhll@stein.u.washington.edu (Steven Hodas)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
Subject: Re: Current InHome pricing?
Date: 5 Jan 1993 19:26:27 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

rteasdal@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Rusty) writes:


>	Does anyone have a recent price list from InHome Health
>Services? I have one gotten at second hand, but it's a few months
>old, and I'm not sure whether or not currency exchange rate fluctuations
>have rendered the prices in it invalid.

I got screwed by InHome on a Vasopressin order (they took my money, sent
no drugs, ignored faxes, letters, and phone calls over a six-month
period). I understand they've been closed down, anyway. I'd suggest
another source.

>-- 
>||||||||   Russ Teasdale -- rteasdal@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU  --  (Rusty)  ||||||||


Steven
From: anon.193@pax.tpa.com.au
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
Subject: LSD and MDMA - Where are they found?
Date: 8 Jan 1993 08:08:10 +1030
Organization: PAX - Public Access Unix (Adelaide,South Australia) - Anonymous Service
Reply-To: anon.193@pax.tpa.com.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: flash.pax.tpa.com.au


Where does one get things like LSD and MDMA? I'm not asking for
specifics (duh), just what kind of places it is likely to be
obtainable? How would you go about it? What if you knew hardly anyone
in town? (Assume there are no Dead shows around :). Keep the flamage
down, please. I'm genuinely curious.

...Stardust

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From: ebenami@igc.apc.org (Etan Ben-Ami)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
Subject: Re: Cubensis
Date: 7 Jan 93 05:44:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:1993Jan5.233617.12010@trl.oz.au:812793138:cdp:1519500012:000:430
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!ebenami    Jan  6 21:44:00 1993


  Psylocibe Subaerignosa isn't listed in the Psychedelic Dictionary,
my only source handy.  They do have a pointed warning to avoid
Galerina autumnalis, which is poisonous, when picking Ps. stutzii
in the northwest.  It seems that there are more species of Ps. than
are normally written about.
-- Etan Ben-Ami
                   Of course, I'm only interested in them for
                   decorative purposes & natural history.
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
From: mathers@sibelius.trl.OZ.AU (Steven Mathers)
Subject: Re: Aphrodisiacs (Was Re: question: )
Reply-To: s.mathers@trl.oz.au
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:29:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.051811.20325@netcom.com>, rlglende@netcom.com (Robert Lewis Glendenning) writes:
|> Fifteen or 20 years ago, there was a Science article which looked at the IQ
|> of Rastafarians after about 20 years of MJ use, and compared the scores to
|> those of high school (maybe college?).
|> 
|> No differences.  
|> 
Rastafarians smoke a LOT of dope, daily, for many years on end.  If that doesn't
|> lower IQ, casual use won't do much.
|> 
 I was surprized.  I would think that constant CO, etc. pollutants would do more
|> to lower brain power by themselves?

Yeah, but what about incidence of lung cancer.
From: ebenami@igc.apc.org (Etan Ben-Ami)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
Subject: Re: LSD and MDMA - Where are they found
Date: 12 Jan 93 04:52:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:1ii7s2INNlg2@flash.pax.tpa.com.a:1296517065:cdp:1519500013:000:403
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!ebenami    Jan 11 20:52:00 1993


Suggest you go the nearest rave / trance dance and ask someone 
who's really tripping out if they've got any they can spare.

I took my girlfriend to Sensorium in Brooklyn for New Year's ...
After we got through the fifty foot unlit plastic tunnel and emerged
into serious strobe lights & noise, I had some explaining to do
regarding psychedelics and the habits of people who take them.
-- Etan Ben-Ami
Xref: sparky alt.psychoactives:1719 alt.drugs:20502 talk.bizarre:43544
From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B))
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives,alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Leary, Manson, Kleps and other questions...
Date: 5 Jan 1993 07:49:08 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Dec31.173955.24318@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mjharris@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Harris) writes:
>aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri) writes:
>>>In responding to this; if your only info source is Helter Skelter (the
>>>book, not the movie)
>>There's a book and movie?  I thought it was just a Motley Crue song 8^)
>Beatles damn it! You young guys.... When I was your age I used to walk to
>school every day with no soles on my shoes. If we wanted a radio we
>*built* one from old scraps lying about the house (well actually not a
>house, just a corridor really). And we *liked* it. (-:

Don't laugh, there is a movie at least - "The Helter Skelter Murders" - 
in B&W though it must have been made in the 70's (forgot to look at the
year).  It was VERY VERY bad.  Wretched.  I rented it last night because
I wanted SOME info o what the cult of Manson was about, why LSD is associated
with it, etc (I'm sorry, but I just CANNOT see how an ego-destroying drug
like LSD or a peaceful drug like MJ can be associated with murder).  The movie
gave NO insight into this.  The only word or idea we have from Manson is his
chanting about the helter-skelter apocalypse and some very generic brain-
washing, with three females repeating after him.  Icky icky.  Joe-bob says
DON'T check it out.  Get the time-life series instead  :)

	Brian


Xref: sparky alt.psychoactives:1722 alt.drugs:20511 talk.bizarre:43570
From: tonya@csa2.lbl.gov (TONYA PUONCEY)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives,alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Fortean paradoxes
Date: 5 Jan 1993 08:18 PST
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.197
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1993Jan1.041836.19162@siemens.com>, aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
       writes...
>The crystal skull is in fact my skull. 

Too bad there's 13 of 'em.

-tc


Xref: sparky alt.psychoactives:1716 alt.drugs:20467 talk.bizarre:43466
From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives,alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Leary, Manson, Kleps and other questions...
Date: 1 Jan 93 04:17:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ


>>There's a book and movie?  I thought it was just a Motley Crue song 8^)

Much as I hate to, I feel I must make it clear that I was joking.

>Beatles damn it! You young guys.... When I was your age I used to walk to
>school every day with no soles on my shoes.

You were still in school at 27?  From <insert name of rival state>, are ya?

-- 

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Xref: sparky alt.psychoactives:1731 alt.drugs:20606 talk.bizarre:43779
From: bhoughto@sedona.intel.com (Blair P. Houghton)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives,alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Leary, Manson, Kleps and other questions...
Date: 7 Jan 1993 01:35:51 GMT
Organization: Intel Corp., Chandler, Arizona
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: stealth.intel.com

In article <1993Jan6.171817.6962@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mjharris@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Harris) writes:
|>LSD can be very dangerous this way. It can induce delusions of grandour and
|>psychotic tendencies. I believe one of its main effects is to show the
|>possibility of other realities and the arbitrary nature of what we accept
|>as "real". I don't know if this effect is caused by delusion or revelation
|>but whichever, it is a mistake to believe that your consiousness can over
|>power or cancel out someone else's particularly the collective consiousness
|>of most of society. I think it is *very* important to be well grounded in
|>left brained stuff -logic rationality ect. before going into an experience
|>of this type.

% sed -e 's/LSD/talk.bizarre/g' .article

				--Blair
				  "Ect."
				  -Bill the Cat, Vegisexual
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
From: thinman@netcom.com (Technically Sweet)
Subject: Re: Aphrodisiacs (Was Re: question: )
Organization: International Foundation for Internal Freedom
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 01:36:24 GMT

Third, tobacco includes lots of additives to control burn rate.
These have not been studied much and may be carcinogenic.
-- 

Lance Norskog
thinman@netcom.com
Data is not information is not knowledge is not wisdom.
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
Subject: Anandamide
From: "Charles D. Nichols" <cn0p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 09:34:20 -0500 
Organization: Doctoral student, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I came across a couple interesting articles in "Science".  Its a few
weeks old and I've been away from the terminal on vacation, but I
haven't seen it posted yet.  It seems that a group has isolated the
endogenous ligand for the THC binding receptor :

"Arachidonylethanolamide, an arachidonic acid derivative in porcine
brain, was identified in a screen for endogenous ligands for the
cannabinoid receptor.  The structure of this compound, which has been
named "anandamide" [coined from the sanskrit word "ananda," meaning
bliss], was determined by mass spectrometry and nuclear magnetic
resonance spectroscopy and was confirmed by synthesis.  Anandamide
inhibited the specific binding of a radiolabeled cannabinoid probe to
synaptosomal membranes in a manner typical of competitive ligands and
produced a concentration-dependent inhibition of the electrically evoked
twitch response of the mouse vas deferens, a characteristic effect of
psychotropic cannabinoinds.  These properties suggest that anandamide
may function as a natural ligand for the cannabinoid receptor"

Devane, Hanus, Breuer, Pertwee, Stevenson, Griffin, Gibson, Mandlebaum,
Etinger, & Merchoulam.  Science, vol. 258, Dec 18, 1992.



            ==  ==    CONHCH2CH2OH         
           /  \/  \/\/
          <
           \  /\  /\/\/
            ==  ==
 
           Anandamide

There was also a general review of opioid receptor research entitled
"Pot, Heroin Unlock new areas for neuroscience."  It was very favorable
towards research in this field.

CDN



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Chuck Nichols
Carnegie-Mellon University
cn0p+@andrew.cmu.edu

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