From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: Credibility and Trueness
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:43:08 GMT
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In <MARTINC.93Jan26173927@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:

>   Good start.  Before you know it, you'll have to add a second shelf. 

>That's why God invented tearsheets.

Tearing sheets out of books is tacky, Charlie.  Even the great Gatsby
did better than that.  Besides, if you meet one of the authors and
want an autograph, he'll have no place to sign.

Keep building that library, though. 


>   You mean you weigh 20-60 pounds more than Arnold Schwarzenegger,
>   Lou Ferigno, Hulk Hogan, or "Refrigerator?"  That is impressive,
>   if true.

>You've missed the part about Perry fighting to get his weight down, eh?

I'm not even sure who Perry is.  I presume someone on the net,
but I don't see what that has to do with the question I asked. 


>Anyway, what I mean precisely is that my body fat has crept up to around
>21 percent, when various people would claim it ought to be maybe 5-15
>percent to be really good.  

And that's your problem right there.  Listen to yourself.  You 
feel bad because various *other* people think your body far ought
to be less than it is.  Richard Feynman wrote a book called "What
Do You Care What Other People Think?" -- a question you would
do well to ask yourself.  If *you* think your body fat ought
to be less then, fine, do something about it, but why do something
just because other people (most of whom you don't even know) think 
you ought to?  Who are they to tell you how to live your life? 



>   However, I doubt you would ever be satisfied with your body
>   no matter what it looked like.  You could be Mr. Fitness himself,
>   and you'd probably still moan about how you "should be" doing more.

>You just aren't hearing me, are you, Ed?  I'm saying precisely the
>opposite -- I'm aware of what I'd like to do for my own vanity, and what
>needs to be done to make that work out.  

Well, you weren't saying that in the last paragraph, but, I forget,
you don't want me to assume that what you write is what you mean.

Another question you might ask yourself is whether vanity is really
a desireable quality.  Read the story of Narcissus sometime and find
out what narcissism really means.


>You just aren't getting it.  *I* don't feel inadequate.  Just the
>opposite.  

Yet your words say otherwise.  I know, I shouldn't assume that
what you write is what you mean...

>Five years ago I did.  What's the difference?  Three years of
>therapy. 

If you choose to attribute your change to the alignment of
your id and ego, or the planets, or the crystal forces, well,
then, I can't convince you otherwise.  I prefer less mystical
interpretations of reality.


>But Ed -- it there's nothing wrong with me, and I'm happy, successful,
>and dating up a storm, that's easily explained.

>Why are you unhappy and not dating?

I have already answered that question, Charlie, at length.  The
short version is that no woman who I've been interested in has
ever been interested in me.  But my explanation is based on my
analysis of the available data, which you reject because it
doesn't fit your existing theories.





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