HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: beaker@ford.uchicago.edu (Mike Aguilar)
Subject: Help! How do i convert .wav files to something my mac can use?
Keywords: sounds, .wav, mac SE
Organization: Will Prove for Food Institute
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 02:29:11 GMT


Thanks *VERY* much to the kind folks at yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au who
archived all the dinosaur sounds that recently appeared in some
other newsgroup.  I have a question:  how do i convert the .wav
files into something that my mac SE can use?  Or, is there a 
mac utility out there that can read .wav files?  Help!  I wanna
hear these sounds!!  Thanx.
-mike

Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
From: hymowitz@whatever.cs.jhu.edu (Hymie!)
Subject: enemies of the state
Reply-To: hymowitz@cs.jhu.edu (Hymie!)
Organization: Creative Sensualities dept, Jacquie's House of Underwear
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 01:19:39 GMT

when howard handupme read off his list of people who don't agree with
the campaign, i only caught and recognized three names - fonda,
zappa, and zimmerman (bob dylan).  did anybody catch the other names?

--hymie
hymowitz@cs.jhu.edu                                         hymie@jhuvms.bitnet
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little opera.  I just felt like passing through!
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From: avi@seal.imagen.com
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Subject: re: I'm not really here...
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:51:23 GMT
Reply-To: avi@seal.imagen.com
Organization: none

>what is the teaching of T.M. on death, and is it considered wrong 
>(one would hope so) to try and come back from the dead, or use 
>other powers not to die

I'm not really an expert on this particular subject but I'll give it my best shot.
As far as I know, T.M. is not different in this respect from the mainstream
Vedic/Hindu philosophy about the wheel or birth, death and rebirth (or 
reincarnation).

According to this, a person will die and reincarnate again and again until he/she
have fulfilled their destiny. In part, the reincarnation is a delayed effect
of producing Karma in past lives and having to deal with it in future 
reincarnations.

TM as one of its benefits will help fulfill anyone's destiny by helping a
person to literally TRANSCEND this endless cycle of birth and death. By 
advancing to higher states of consciousness, one spontaneously starts to
live in accordance with Nature and its laws (i.e. Natural Law) and thus
ceases to produce any more Bad karma (or any karma really).

Thus, the neccessity to reincarnate is removed. There's of course more to 
TM than that, but in this respect, it is similar and consistent with many
Eastern philosophies (and some Non-Eastern as well).

As far as trying to come back from the dead or using powers - well, that depends
on what you mean. If you're talking about reincarnation, it is not a choice
but an effect or consequence of past karma. If you're talking about bringing
back somebody ELSE from the dead (i.e. Seance, contacting spirits, etc.)
Maharishi does not recommend such practices. In his book "Science of Being
and Art of Living" he claims that to achieve such a contact (as performed by
Mediums) one has to surrender to the Spirit it wishes to invoke. One is much
better off surrendering to the Almighty (God, Nature, whatever name you like),
who is also infinitely more powerful. (The surrendering is NOT achieved on a thinking or an emotional level, of course)

So rather than a moral judgement, it is purely a question of wisdom. If you wish
to perform a Seance in order to ask the Dead some questions, wouldn't you rather
contact the All-Knowing Nature itself, instead ?
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
From: mw@ki.fht-mannheim.de (Marc Wachowitz)
Subject: Re: Soul Recycling
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 07:32:39 GMT
Organization: Fachhochschule fuer Technik Mannheim
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Jenny Jozwiak <jjozwiak@shearson.com> wrote:
: I think that it is not really a matter of "good" or "bad", but more of
: positive/negative.  Meaning that one can not exist without the other, so
: negativity is as necessary as positivity.....and the two create a balance....
: yin and yang.
When speaking of yin and yang, one should not forget that Tao includes and
transcends both.

: In meditations, I have experienced a realization that the nature of the soul
: existing within the body is ultimately prone towards growth. That may take
: many many evolutions and "reincarnations"  But that is the reason why we are
: here.  To grow, learn, love, evolve....
.. play? :-)

: I could be totally wrong.  I think it is important to keep an
: open mind towards the unknown....
Can something limited (the known), by whatever growth, exceed the fact of
limitation? Maybe examine the "base" for the "known"?

    People climb mountains,
 since where the mountain ends,
         heaven starts.

      But the point is,
 everywhere on the mountain
      begins the heaven.
   All what you have to do
        is to jump.

  -- Michael Barnett in "Hints on the Art of Jumping"

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From: WJS112@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Subject: re: I'm not really here...
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:00:56 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

I'll agree with you up to the reincarnation bit.  Not, that I do not believe in
it, but I think t.m. or no tm, you still have to reincarnate. Of course, a
practice in tm or some other style will help you to make this gap between death
and rebirth shorter, but, for the most part, I think the gap will always be
there.  I also think if your really really good, you still have to wait a
little bit before a re-birth.  In short, if your good, your at a higher point,
and if bad, a lower point.  Make any sense?
                                           gersha.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:53:05 EDT
From: <WJS112@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Subject: I'm not really here...

     help, i've lost my soul, and i cant come back to life...

   Oh, ok , i'll be serious for a little while... Anyway, what is the teaching
of T.M. on death, and is it considered wrong (one would hope so) to try and
come back from the dead, or use other powers not to die.
   As you may be able to tell, I'm not in t.m. , but i am in my own version of
yoga...ANYWAY, somebody had to try to get some life back into this newsgroup...
                                       later
                                           Gersha

                                                 Smitty.
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
From: jjozwiak@shearson.com (Jenny Jozwiak)
Subject: Soul Recycling
Reply-To: jjozwiak@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:20:44 GMT

I think that it is not really a matter of "good" or "bad", but more of positive/negative.  Meaning that one can not exist without the other, so negativity
is as necessary as positivity.....and the two create a balance....yin and yang.

In meditations, I have experienced a realization that the nature of the soul
existing within the body is ultimately prone towards growth. That may take many many evolutions and "reincarnations"  But that is the reason why we are here.  To grow, learn, love, evolve....

By the way, anything I may say are only my feelings gleaned from intuitive knowledge 
from the higher self.  I could be totally wrong.  I think it is important to keep an
open mind towards the unknown....



Jenny
From: zocca@amc.uva.nl (Vincent Zocca)
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Subject: Re: I'm not really here...
Date: 1 Sep 92 14:56:19 GMT
Followup-To: alt.meditation.transcendental
Organization: Univ. of Amsterdam, Fac. of Medic.

In article <92244.205306WJS112@psuvm.psu.edu>, <WJS112@psuvm.psu.edu>
wrote:
> 
>      help, i've lost my soul, and i cant come back to life...
> 
>    Oh, ok , i'll be serious for a little while... Anyway, what is the teaching
> of T.M. on death, and is it considered wrong (one would hope so) to try and
> come back from the dead, or use other powers not to die.

Do we die? How would it be like not to be? I don't think we do die.
What would the teaching be like of something that does not exist?

     Vincent
From: WJS112@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Subject: Re: I'm not really here...
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:52:12 GMT
 <92244.205306WJS112@psuvm.psu.edu> <zocca-010992164512@jozef.amc.uva.nl>
Organization: Penn State University

My question basically was what is your thoughts on extended life, Past what is
normally right.  I assume that this would not be a moral thing to do. (lets
assume you found a way to extend your life, is it right to do so.  I don't mean
by extending your life, eating lots of fruit etc...).
                                                Smitty.
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
From: jjozwiak@shearson.com (Jenny Jozwiak)
Subject: OK to Sin?  Maybe.....
Reply-To: jjozwiak@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:57:56 GMT

Summary: 
Keywords: 



> I agree that the purpose is to grow.  I know the yin yang theory and for the
> most part accept it. I also agree that it should be coined as neg and pos,
> good and bad are really hard to define. However, i realize that you need to
> screw up sometimes to grow, so you can see the neg and pos side to things.
> however, it still bothers me, for this is like almost saying that you have to
> experience the neg to grow.  I consider the purpose of life is not to grow, but
> to grow positively.  I don't always think you need the neg aspect to grow,
> although from my last neg. experience, i learned a great deal. However, it
> still bothers me that i needed to be neg. to grow. It's almost like saying
> it is ok to sin. any thoughts?
>                               SMitty.


Well, when I review my life, (all 30 years of it) I do believe that the Negative can
be a great teacher...assuming you are able to be somewhat objective about negative
events...if you are able to use life with both its positive and negative aspects
as a sort of reflection of yourself and your actions (with truth and honesty as a 
guide) you can learn mountains worth.......

Try to imagine a life on earth without any problems or challenges or conflicts or 
pain or failure.  Sound good??  Maybe, but booooooring and ungrowthful. 
Ever hear the quote " that which does not kill me only makes me stronger"? 

I am not saying that the good and the beautiful do not teach us and help us grow.
I am saying that both are totally necessary to create balance.  The thing called
"life" cannot exist in the universe without the thing called "death"...because of the 
way things seem to be set up, opposites are not only beautiful, but necessary.....

Now, I cannot pretend to totally understand why there is so much pain, suffering and 
general unpleasantness in the world.  But, I do think that there must be a reason for
it all.  In my "higher conciousness" meditations certain clarity comes to me in regard
to these issues. If you are familiar with Satori, you may understand that I cannot  repeat these "revelations" as they pass through.  You have to 
meditate for yourself on this..."just do it".

You dont have to BE "negative" to grow....but negative things happen to good people
dont they?  And positive things happen to schmucks, too.  SO what?

That is not the point....we are all important energy infused being, who make choices
on how to plug in this energy....Ghandi and HItler were similar in so much as their
ability to lead, to excite and reach people, to change humanity....but Hitler was a 
negative force and Ghandi was more positive. Same show, different channel...

Well, enough for now.....gotta work (a four letter word)  I guess I am here to learn
discipline...

rsvp

Jenny






 


Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
From: mpragnell@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu (Marlon Pragnell)
Subject: Any MIU alumni out there?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 04:02:00 GMT

Are there any MIU alumni out there?  I got my undergraduate
degree from Maharishi International University (1984-88).  Now at 
the University of Iowa getting my PhD in Neuroscience.  Looking
for old friends!

Marlon Pragnell
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:55:17 EDT
From: <WJS112@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Subject: Re: Soul Recycling
 <1992Sep2.192044.15384@shearson.com>

I agree that the purpose is to grow.  I know the yin yang theory and for the
most part accept it. I also agree that it should be coined as neg and pos,
good and bad are really hard to define. However, i realize that you need to
screw up sometimes to grow, so you can see the neg and pos side to things.
however, it still bothers me, for this is like almost saying that you have to
experience the neg to grow.  I consider the purpose of life is not to grow, but
to grow positively.  I don't always think you need the neg aspect to grow,
although from my last neg. experience, i learned a great deal. However, it
still bothers me that i needed to be neg. to grow. It's almost like saying
it is ok to sin. any thoughts?
                              SMitty.
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: cml851@huxley.anu.edu.au (I'm crazy)
Subject: Help on starting bbs's  
Organization: Australian National University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 05:25:27 GMT

To whomever,
	    I don't know whether this is the right place to post this and it's a trivial question, but where oh where can I get info on starting a bbs, I would prefer net sources, but anything will do.

			Thanx,
			      Armageddon T. Thunderbird
			      cml851@huxley.anu.edu.au
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: BBS Standards Committ
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:59:39 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise) writes:

>From article <2532@aegis.or.jp>, by davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane):
>> I'm not up on exactly how TBBS works, but if it takes complete
>> control of the machine and either boots directly or replaces DOS,
>> then maybe it is a complete OS in itself. On the other hand, if it's
>> something like Windows or Desqview that rides on top of DOS which
>> you can stop and be back in DOS, then I would say it's an
>> application. I don't know for sure, could somebody fill us in? \

>	TBBS, while from my perspective is "built" like an OS, only
>as so much that it can run it's own specially designed option modules
>(such as the fidonet mailer, xBase lanaguage interpreter, etc).  However,
>since those OMs must be written (or licensed) by eSoft Inc. only, and
>thatt the package is still subject to normal DOS limitations
>(ie.  needs expanded memory managers, etc.) I too would classify it as
>an "application".  

>	However, since you can write your own xBase applications
>and run them under TBBS, and using the option module distiction, perhaps
>"an application that acts as an OS" would be the better title.

Not so catchy a phrase, but what else :-) 

Going back to what somebody else said (sorry, I forget who), I think
it's the case that when TBBS wants to run certain modules/whatever
(like handing incoming news) it needs to shut-down on-line operation.

Is this so? 

Dave

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JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087
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From: murph@buscard.fidonet.org (Brian Murphy)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc,comp.misc
Subject: Re: Door Games
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 11:49:44 EDT
Reply-To: murph@buscard.fidonet.org (Brian Murphy)
Organization: The Business Card (BBS), Lawrence, MA - Data: 508-682-5329

khartoum@minuet.cc.purdue.edu (Khartoum) writes:

> I dont really know if this is the place to post this, but I was wondering 
> if someone could e-mail me a place to pick up some door games for a bbs
> running on an IBM compat.

Send mail to file-server@buscard.fidonet.org containing the word "index" to
get a list of files available.  I regularly get the latest doorware where you
might want to check every now and again.

                         Your friend in Lawrence, Massachusetts...
                                      - - - Murph

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From: salmieri@whitebase.ukp.com (Gregory Salmieri)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: BBS Standards Committee Formed
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 09:57:22 EDT
Organization: UKP Systems, Middletown, NJ

>most DOS users believe that BBS's should be free -- and that the SYSOP
>"owes them".  Yes -- I've seen it year after year.  Since moving to UNIX
>I've come to know a new breed of user who doesn't mind sharing the expense 
-
>which keeps the machine up and running.  I still get the DOS users who send
>in a subscription - and likewise, I still get the DOShead who believes the 
>machine should be free "since I owe them"
I am an MS-DOS user and I do not think SysOps "owe" the public free BBS. I 
am not in a finantial position to pay for many BBSs, and I am thankful for 
the free systems I encounter. 

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| It's all a game...                                                        |
|                        Gregory C. Salmieri                                |
|                                                       ...It's all the same|
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc,comp.misc
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: Coherent Re: The bogus Nixpub Posting
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 11:30:34 GMT

peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva) writes:

>In article <PRD4PB1w165w@willard.UUCP> dawson@willard.UUCP writes:
>> Usenetish ports are adequate replacements for Un*x.  Certainly Coherent
>> systems should NOT appear in any list of Unix systems, I'd say.  (Sure to
>> stir up an argument there!)

>Why the hell not? It looks like a duck, it walks like a duck, and it quacks
>like a duck. Unix isn't an operating system... it's a family of operating

Ok, allow Coherent now, QNX tommorrow, OS2 next month, DOS next year
(of course with the unix tools like ls, grep, etc..) -- maybe a DOS
machine that has SMTP/NNTP should be included today?

-- 
Larry Snyder                                    internet: larry@gator.rn.com
keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
From: weenie@yenta.alb.nm.us (Dean Kerl)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Pay for a BBS?
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:21:14 GMT
Organization: yenta unix pc, rio rancho, nm

ed.hopper@ehbbs.hou.tx.us (Ed Hopper) writes:

>There's not a damn thing wrong with it.  Now if Joe Blow, modem user, doesn't
>want to pay, that's fine.  He has a perfect right to keep his money in his
>pocket.  I have yet to hear of a sysop holding a gun to the head of anyone to
>send in their checks.

No need to hold a gun to anybody's head, simply give them a way to charge
a credit card. I've found it's more effective than brute force. :)

>Now, if I was rich, I'd be *THRILLED* to run a first class BBS for free, in
>fact, that would be the first thing I would do when the Publisher's Clearing
>House camera crew left, after dropping off that cool $10,000,000.00.

That makes two of us. I enjoy running my BBS so much that I wish i could
run it for free, but paying the $2000 phone bill every month would be
tough. I did enjoy running my free one line system too though.

Dean
weenie@yenta.alb.nm.us
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.native
From: jim@n5ial.chi.il.us
Subject: kill files (was Re: The bogus Nixpub Posting)
Originator: jim@eddie
Reply-To: jim@n5ial.chi.il.us
Organization: me?  have you seen my desk?  : -)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:02:55 GMT

In article <qTPcqB1w165w@pfbbs.uucp> gabe@angus.mi.org writes:
>jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
>
>> Always interesting to see people like jim who are totally devoid of 
>> anything useful to say and yet wants to be heard so bad that they
>> use a whole article to pick a nit like that.  Boring life, huh?

well, as long as I'm posting to ask another question, John, I truly feel
sorry for your subscribers --- I'd hate to be a user on a system where
the sysop lives for nothing but to try to pick fights/flame wars with
anyone and everyone he possibly can, just to get the publicity.

I'd think you could find more productive ways to get your publicity.

I saw your recent posting on rec.photo, too (forget what it was about,
off-hand) --- before I even saw your name on it, I knew who it was just
by the rude tone of voice (errrr, keyboard) you used.  looked at the
headers, and sure enough, I was right.

>Frankly, I'm getting tired of John's attitude.  One more for the kill 
>file...

question:  how do you insert an entry in a kill file (preferably a GLOBAL
kill file for *ALL* newsgroups) to get trn to nuke any article from a given
username?  I won't mention any specific names, but uhh.....  :-)

thanks....
   --jim

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Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc,comp.misc
From: marc@r-node.gts.org (Marc Fournier - Sys Admin)
Subject: Re: The bogus Nixpub Posting
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX System (416-249-5366) 24hrs.
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 21:41:37 GMT

In article <_aknatk@dixie.com> jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
>mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>
>>John, why don't you just threaten to write a nasty article in a
>>magazine about him, the way you tried to threaten Dell when you
>>weren't satisfied with the help a friend of yours was getting?  
>
>No mere threat actually, as you'll discover if you're capable of 
>reading whole sentences and buying a copy of ME.  However, unlike
>the Dell issue, the NixBogus list just doesn't matter enough. 
>
	The why are you even making a big deal of this?? Sounds
to me that you just require the attention and are willing to
get it however you can...even by putting down something that you
say 'doesn't matter enough'!!

	You had a rough childhood, didn't you?  No friends or
something??

Marc
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