HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Jim Cook <J.Cook@ENS.Prime.COM>
Subject: Prime/CV Alumnai Fall Reunion
Organization: Prime Computer R&D
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:08:22 GMT

I received the following invite in the U.S. Mail last weekend.  It is open to
the public, so I thought I might share it with everyone:

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                    Registration Form for Prime/CV Reunion

      When:      Wednesday, October 21, 1992

      Where:     Maximus Entertainment Complex
                 Routine 9 East, Framingham, Mass.

      What:      Hot and cold hors d'oeuvres, getting together with
                 old friends and networking!


Deadline for Registration:  Wednesday, October 14, 1992
      Due to the fact that we must plan and pay for food prior to the reunion,
      no reservations can be taken after the deadline date.  Thank you for your
      understanding in this matter.


Directions to the MAXIMUS Entertainment Complex, Framingham, MA:
      MAXIMUS is located on Route 9 East, at 220 Worcester Road, Framingham,
MA.
      Their telephone number is (508) 872-2202.

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                 Please complete and return with check to:
      Firm Futures Marketing, P.O. Box 262, North Grafton, MA  01536


Name:
Address:
City, State, ZIP:
Phone w/ areacode:

Costs:
   Subscribers to "Who's Where Directory" (aka Prime Alumani Directory): 
     Discounted admission: $12 (cash bar).

   Non-subscribers: regular admission $15 (cash bar).

You may also send in your name and phone number with a request to be put on
the mailing list for future reunions.

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[Note: I do not have any financial or personal interest in this organization. ]
[      I am just posting this as a courtesy for any interested friends.       ]

Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: trumbull@unx.sas.com (Ed Trumbull)
Subject: Re: Where does "message" put its messages?
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:15:06 GMT


In article <9210050402.AA00533@hitech.com>, you write:
|> 
|> --> Does this mean that there is a working XWINDOWS for PRIMOS?
   Oops.  I shoulda clarified:  I'm running xterm from a workstation,
and telnet-ing to the Prime.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: JCROSS_PUBMAIL@prime.mhsl.uab.edu
Subject: Re: TCP/IP Upgrade problems.
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 12:44:59 GMT

Thanks for the reply Leonard;

I have only one LHC and its address is 56.  Yes I do have a
GATEWAYS_56 file in my TCP/IP* directory.  Yes I did run the
TCP/IPHTU.RUN program to re-write the config files.

As I said, the PrimeService analyst couldn't find anything wrong
with my setup, and the identical setup works just fine at revision
2.3.xx.

Prehaps a more concise questions are:

1) Are there any changes to be made in the config files when
   upgrading from TCP/IP Revision 2.3.xx to Revision 2.4.xx?

2) Does TCP/IP Revision 2.4.xx require:
   a) any special revision of the LHC download files?
   b) any special revision of the network management server software, etc.?
   c) any special revision of the microcode?
   d) any special revision of the LHC hardware?

I appreciate your help Leonard.  If any of PrimeService's TCP/IP
guru's wish to jump in and join this conversation, please do so!

-Jesse-

Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: apirwani@csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Ash H. Pirwani)
Subject: WATCH command in Primos
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:57:30 GMT

Primos HELP needed!

Is there a way in Primos to set up security so that the WATCH command can be executed on another users session (with another login id) from a station other than the system console.  

If there is a way, how do u do it?

Thanks in advance for your replies.

Ash.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: JCROSS_PUBMAIL@prime.mhsl.uab.edu
Subject: TCP/IP Upgrade problems,help!
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:00:33 GMT

Please help!

I have a problem.  Two weeks ago I upgraded from Tcp/Ip revision
2.3.R59 to 2.4.R10 and all Tcp/Ip functions ceased working.

I can "telnet" and "ftp" to any node that is directly defined in my
"hosts.txt" configuration file, but when I attempt to "telnet" or
"ftp" to a node which is not directly defined I receive a "network
unreachable" message.

{Begin example}

OK, TELNET NIC.DDN.MIL
[Telnet Rev. 2.4.R10 Copyright ...
[Serial #IDB7 ...

Please wait...
  Connecting to: NIC.DDN.MIL (192.112.36.5)

Network unreachable.


{End example}

Apparently the software is doing name to ip number resolution but
failing to connect to the node.

I verified my "hosts.txt", "resolv.conf", and "thishost"
configuration files and everything is exactly as it was at revision
2.3.R59 where everything worked.  I reported this problem to
PrimeService and the analyst assigned to me seemed to think the
software was not implementing the "gateway" statement in my
"hosts.txt" configuration file.  So, he sent me Tcp/Ip revision
2.4.R22 which after installation had the same problems as 2.4.R10.
Now I and apparently he is stumped!

I was forced to drop back to revision 2.3.R59 to become functional
again.

Has anyone else experienced these or similar problems?  If so, what's
the fix?

Any help or suggestion is greatly appreciated!

If you wish to reply directly to me, my internet address is:
jcross_pubmail@prime.mhsl.uab.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: James Peters <peters@convex.COM>
Subject: Re: Computervision in the news
Originator: peters@mikey.convex.com
Reply-To: peters@convex.COM (James Peters)
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 15:15:27 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <9210041959.AA16486@usenet.rpi.edu> Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM writes:
>The current issue of Barrons (pg. 70, 'The Trader') spends about half a
>page telling the recent story of Computervision (Prime) seen from Wall
>Street. Nothing new for us here on the list, but the graph showing the
>almost free-fall price of the Computervision stock (from $11 to $5) is an
>ominous picture.
>
>Besides showing what the analysts think about a company, what effect does
>a stock price have on the daily life in the company, and on its customers?

unless the cv employees have some sort of profit sharing or esop than the
stock price should have little or no effect. company officers are restricted
by sec regulations when they can sell stock and bonuses are probably the only
part of their compensation package which is link to stockprice. as for the vc
that funded prime/cv until the recent public offering, they've probably already
pocketed a healthly profit by selling off a large percentage of the their
holdings. this selloff probably contributed to the price drop. existing 
customers are pretty much stuck with cv even though they may lack confidence
in cv's ability to survive and grow. as for new customers the stockprice is
usually used as a barometer of a company's health and before someone sinks
a large chunk of money in new computers and sw they want a nice warm fuzzy
feeling. people don't get fired for buying ibm.

regards,
james, peters@convex.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: LYNN@MD-MKW.Prime.COM (Lynn Charnitz, 414-797-8512 Voicemail #3)
Subject: Re: Full screen editor
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 01:04:32 GMT

Thanks for the info, Jim.

BTW, I have not forgotten about your searchrules.  The bad news is that I
have not had much time in the office of late... the good news is that the
time out has been spent with customers looking at upgrades and network
services.

Regards,

Lynn Charnitz

--- Your original message :

To:   Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
From: Jim Chivas  Vancouver Community College    <a.0013@VCC3.VCC.BC.CA>
Subject: Full screen editor
Encoding: 5 text (note by A.0013), 28 message (from LYNN)
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:50:49 PDT
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

Try calling AFCAD at 201.769.7400  This company sells editors and more.

Jim

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Subject: Full screen editor
To:   Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
From: Lynn Charnitz (414-797-8512 Voicemail #3)  <LYNN@MD-MKW.Prime.COM>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:43:32 +0700
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

Greetings all,

I have a 50 Series customer who is looking for a full screen editor for
use under PRIMOS.  Their developers are using a variety of PCs running
PROCOMM VT100 emulation.  Keyboard styles vary.  They feel EMACS is a bit
too pricey.

Any recommendations for them?

Regards,

Lynn Charnitz
From: mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
Subject: Re: An Interesting Piece of Mail
Date: 6 Oct 1992 10:07:55 -0400
Organization: Not an official spokesperson for Ford Motor Co.
Reply-To: "Mike O'Connor" <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: ef2007.efhd.ford.com

In article <9210052332.AA09949@usenet.rpi.edu>
Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM writes:

:I just received an interesting piece of mail from PrimeService.  A nice,
:semi-glossy summary of services, etc.  I was delighted to see that
:"TCP/IP Revision 3 is targeted for Q4/92 and on schedule."  and
:"X WINDOWS support on PRIMOS is currently targeted for Q4/92."  Kind of
:encouraging.

Out of a sense of morbid curiosity, what revision of X11 is to be
supported, and does Motif support come along with this?

						...Mike

-- 
 Michael J. O'Connor           |  Internet:  mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com
 Ford Motor Company, OPEO      |  UUCP:      ...!{backbone}!fmsrl7!mjo
 20000 Rotunda, Bldg. 1-3001   |  Phone:     +1 (313) 248-1260
 Dearborn, MI  48121           |  Fax:       +1 (313) 323-6277
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: Ted@CESCC.Bridgewater.EDU (Ted W. Flory)
Subject: re: Full screen editor
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:27:19 GMT

We have been using the PMED full-screen editor for nearly 10 years.  PMED
is written and maintained by the University of Sheffield (UK).  If memory
serves me, it is marketed here in the US by OTG systems.  PMED is very
reasonably priced, is a compatible superset of Prime's ED with many nice
extensions including, of course, full screen capability, and is *very*
fast.  I recommend it highly.  

Ted Flory
Bridgewater College


BTW, I have no connection to the University of Sheffield or OTG Systems
other than being a satisfied PMED user.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: CHUCK@bkmain.east-london.ac.uk (Chuck Foster)
Subject: SHOW/WATCH
Reply-To: Chuck@bkmain.east-london.ac.uk
Organization: University Of East London
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 10:31:56 GMT

An important point to note for Rev23.2- systems (haven't had chance to
install 23.3 yet so I don't know if its fixed) is that WATCH sends a standard
message to the other's screen.

You can do a:   M -REJECT; WATCH user; M -ACCEPT

and then the other user is unaware that you have started to watch them.
I expect this would also apply if the other is REJECTing too.


From a nosey point of view this is incredibly useful (grin).
From the privacy point of view it would be worthwhile fixing this at some
point so that one cannot 'hide' a WATCH. After all, it is meant to be an
aid rather than a 'snoop'.

This is for the normal use of WATCH and SHOW (and the .WATCH$ group?) rather
than the System Administrator, who of course knows better ...

    Chuck


-- Pegasus's View For Today --
I'd love to, but I promised to help a friend fold road maps.
From: SYS_ADMIN@condor.nepean.uws.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
Subject: (none)
Date: 6 Oct 92 06:32:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.9210060631.AA17236
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM


         WATCH and SHOW commands go together.
X-Mailer: Pr1me Mailer 2.00 (C) 1991, 1992 Michel Pollet & Jac Goudsmit
From:     Bob Thomas <sys_admin@condor.nepean.uws.edu.au>
Organization: University of Western Sydney,Nepean,New South Wales,Australia.

         A user issues the command
                   SHOW id
         to initiate permission for the specified id to WATCH that screen.

         This SHOW command can also be placed (and hidden) in a user's
login.cpl.Thus a specified user can be given WATCH rights to all users
as they login and the watcher can choose which users to watch.
         Of course, if the user specifies another SHOW command or
cancels the SHOW, you have a problem.

         The System Administrator also always has WATCH rights to users'
terminals. When the System Administrator issues a WATCH command, no
warning message is displayed on the watched screen which is the norm
for other watchers.




____             ____                       Systems Administrator
 /__)  _   /_     /   /_   _   _ _   _   _  University of Western Sydney,
/__)  (_) /__)   /   /  ) (_) / ) ) (_( `-, Nepean, New South Wales, Australia.
------------------------------------------  Tel.: 047 360845 Fax: 047 360846
                                            E-mail: R.Thomas@uws.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: apirwani@csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Ash H. Pirwani)
Subject: Re: News
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:48:14 GMT

Good luck, Al.

Ash.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: ERNIE@s55.Prime.COM
Subject: (none)
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:22:42 GMT

To:       Kevin Yoders <Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM>
From:     (Ernie) Piper
Date:     01 Oct 92  9:19 AM
Subject:  Re: CHANGE_PROJECT

Hi Kevin,

Though the CP command is very nice, it will in fact screw up your
PI environment.  It essentially "ice's" your environment. Therefore,
files open into PI common, will not be closed as from the vantage
point of PI.  In other words,  files will appear to be open when
in fact they are closed from a PI system view.

If I haven't made this clear, give me a call at 508 620 2800 x4793.

Regards,

  Ernie
  PrimeService Technical Consultant
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: citmlr@hanley.ccit.arizona.edu (Mike Randle)
Subject: Re: what is PriMailPlus?
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 00:58:35 GMT

unsubscribe


Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: tabo@hitech.com (Tony Abo)
Subject: Archived lists
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 00:44:15 GMT

I recently ftp'd to prime.nysaes.cornell.edu to get a copy of
Info-Prime correspondance from before I joined the list (as suggested
in the welcome letter).  I assumed that info-prime.vol4 was the most
recent copy and downloaded it (3.5mb!).  This file has not been
updated since 1991.  Is there an up to date archive anywhere?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: Toni@Blx-S.Prime.COM (Toni van de Wiel)
Subject: re: Archived lists
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Organization: PrimeService, De Meern, The Netherlands
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 09:48:44 GMT

tabo@hitech.com (Tony Abo) writes:
> I recently ftp'd to prime.nysaes.cornell.edu to get a copy of
> Info-Prime correspondance from before I joined the list (as suggested
> in the welcome letter).  I assumed that info-prime.vol4 was the most
> recent copy and downloaded it (3.5mb!).  This file has not been
> updated since 1991.  Is there an up to date archive anywhere?

Blx-A.Prime.COM has a complete set of archives of Info-Prime.
You can however not (yet) ftp to this site, so you have to retrieve
the archives (or any other available file) by requesting them via mail.
Send your mail to 'ListServer@Blx-A.Prime.COM' and put in the subjectline
or body of the mail 'get <filename>'.
Here is a list of all available Info-Prime archive-files (sizes in kB):

info-prime.archive87       130  year 1987
info-prime.archive88       120  year 1988
info-prime.archive89       166  year 1989
info-prime.archive90       184  year 1990
info-prime.archive9104     110  month april 1991
info-prime.archive9105     102  month may 1991
info-prime.archive9106     236  month june 1991
info-prime.archive9107     346  month july 1991
info-prime.archive9108     678  month august 1991
info-prime.archive9109     726  month september 1991
info-prime.archive9110     372  month october 1991
info-prime.archive9111     472  month november 1991
info-prime.archive9112     172  month december 1991
info-prime.archive9201      72  month january 1992
info-prime.archive9202     142  month february 1992
info-prime.archive9203     168  month march 1992
info-prime.archive9204     214  month april 1992
info-prime.archive9205     218  month may 1992
info-prime.archive9206     194  month june 1992
info-prime.archive9207     176  month july 1992
info-prime.archive9208     416  month august 1992
info-prime.archive9209      >1  month september 1992 (till current date)

For a complete list of available files send the command 'INDEX' to
ListServer@Blx-A.Prime.COM, and for more information on how this
service works send 'HELP' to the same address.

Regardz,
++Toni;
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  phone: +31 3406 95597   fax: +31 3406 63868    mail: Toni@Blx-S.Prime.COM
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: TOWN.CRIER@MD-B.Prime.COM (Roland Kittredge - Marketing 508-620-2800 x4666)
Subject: Computervision Outlook
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:33:52 GMT

PRM - DOW JONES NEWS (DJ)                                     STORY 1

09/29 Computervision Outlook -2-: Cites European, Domestic Mkts

   BEDFORD, Mass. -DJ- Computervision Corp. (CVN) said it expects
revenue and operating results for the third quarter ended Sept. 27, to
be substantially below the company's plan for the quarter and the
operating results achieved for the third quarter of 1991.
    A company spokesman said ''a number of factors contributed to the
disappointing results.  The worsening economic conditions in the
United States, the economic uncertainties caused by recent turmoil in
the European currency markets, and the company's uncertain financial
condition prior to the consummation of its public debt and equity
financings this summer.''
    The company expects that its third quarter financial performance
will adversely affect its operating results for the full fiscal year.
    Computervision's initial offering of 25 million common shares was
priced in August.
     6:11 PM

=====================================================================
PRM - PR NEWSWIRE (PR)                                        STORY 2

09/29 COMPUTERVISION ANTICIPATES FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE TO BE BELOW THE
COMPANY'S PLAN FOR THE THIRD QUARTER

  BEDFORD, Mass., Sept. 29 /PRNewswire/ -- Computervision Corporation
(NYSE: CVN) today announced that it expects that its revenue and
operating results for the fiscal quarter ended Sept. 27, 1992, will be
substantially below the company's plan for the quarter and the
operating results achieved for the third quarter of 1991.
  A company spokesman stated that, "A number of factors contributed to
the disappointing results.  The worsening economic conditions in the
United States, the economic uncertainties caused by recent turmoil in
the European currency markets, and the company's uncertain financial
condition prior to the consummation of its public debt and equity
financings this summer were major contributors to the company's lower
financial performance for the quarter."  The company expects that its
third quarter financial performance will adversely affect its operating
results for the full fiscal year.
  Computervision is the leading supplier of CAE/CAD/CAM solutions with
an installed base of more than 150,000 seats worldwide.  Based in
Bedford, Mass., Computervision develops, markets and supports
mechanical, manufacturing, electronic, architectural engineering &
construction (AEC) applications, geographic information systems (GIS)
and engineering data management systems.
  /CONTACT:  Harvey Wagner of Computervision, 617-275-1800, ext. 4200/
17:39 EDT
=========================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: gml4410@ggr.co.uk (Lack Mr G M)
Subject: Re: TCP/Ip printing.
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:49:23 GMT


>         UNIX machines are able to send reports to this server using LPTR.

    What is LPTR???  I'm still looking for a way to persuade Unix that I
have a printer running off a terminal server.... 

-------------------------- Gordon Lack ----------------------------------
The contents of this message *may* reflect my personal opinion.  They are
*not* intended to reflect those of my employer, or anyone else."

Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: sspencer@trl.oz.au (Simon Spencer)
Subject: Directory listing using ftp
Reply-To: sspencer@trl.oz.au
Organization: Telecom Research Labs.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 01:21:07 GMT

Our version of ftp (v 2.4.R1) displays directory listings on prime machines using the detailed switch. Is it possible
to get listings that are a 'tad' less detailed,???

Is there another version of FTP that i could be using??

Lastly: what is prime mail plus that I have noticed a few people using? is it freely available, and is it any
better than the vanilla mail package that comes with TCP/IP

thanks all..

Simon Spencer.
S.spencer@trl.oz.au

Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: gorton@tiger1.prime.com (Scott Gorton)
Subject: Re: TCP/IP & Printing
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 15:23:58 GMT

A while ago (like two or three years ago) a fellow engineer and I wrote what we called a PRINT_SERVER.  The PRINT_SERVER was a client/server pair which allowed users to have (almost) FULL spooler capabilites (options, derived output etc.) on their Unix boxes or PCs.  The "server" ran on the 50 series and accepted CONNECTs from it's clientele.  The user on the remote side (unix or PC) could issue any spooler command/option combo (except for -NOTIFY) and the would effectively "see" everything that he/she wou


ld see if the command were issued from a 50 series command line.  In fact, I gave a demo to the OS group (again, years ago) and I had to prove to several people that I was infact running on a PC and not using a terminal emulator!

There were two BIG problems with it though.  The first problem was that the PRINT_SERVER was single threaded, that is, only one user could use it at a time.  So if a user printed a big file he/she would tie up the server until the file was xfer'd and enqueued on the spooler.  This was due to a marvelously nasty bug with the TUP$pass_socket() and TUP$recv_passed_socket() socket library routines which prevented us from spawning of a process to handle the file xfer and spooler enqueue.  I beleive this bug has


 since been fixed!?

The second (and bigger) problem was that since the server was effectively the owner of all jobs that it spooled, any user that printed thru the PRINT_SERVER had the access to -CANCEL any job he/she wanted to.  We had a solution to this but (at the time) spooler development was done in the UK and it was difficult to coordinate enhancement requests.

At one point we considered productizing it but eventually we both got pulled away to work on other things.  If you're interested in it then let me know and I see what I can do!

Scott Gorton  <Gorton@s35.prime.com>

"PrimOS is the only operating system in which you type RESUME to start a program and START to resume a program!"