Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.bush
Subject: Re: ==> Rhetoric Vs. Reality--The First Debate
From: judy@technology.com (Judy McMillin)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:58:37 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas

In article <1992Oct12.111941.13258@anomaly.sbs.risc.net> kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan) writes:
><U56503@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>
>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>> October 11, 1992
>
>By whom? Looks like a Clinton campaign release.
>
>
>[RHETORIC DELETED]

>Have you bothered to include the number of people who purchased houses
>many years ago and today are unable to sell them because they would get
>socked with taxes? Nah, thought not.
>
	"Get socked with taxes?"  People around here are "unable" to
	sell their houses because nobody can buy them.  and that's at
	severely depressed pricing with low interest to boot.
>
>
>
>> Under the
>> Republicans, U.S. productivity has grown at roughly 1 percent,
>> compared to 2.8 percent for Japan.
>
>Of course, this does not mean that U.S. productivity would have grown
>any faster under Democrats.
>
	You know what productivity growth is?  It's letting people go --
	laying off -- firing.  Then it takes less money to produce. Of
	course, people are working harder, but, no matter -- they're
	just happy to be employed!  This, of course, is a short term
	gain for producers, because as the people get tired out, production
	goes down.  But it's a great boost to their stock prices in the
	short term.


>> Since 1980, the United States has been transformed from the world's
>> largest creditor to the world's largest debtor.
>
>This implies a change of status, which is false. The U.S. is still the
>world's largest creditor nation.
>
>
		Neither is a good position.


>
>> RHETORIC: Under George Bush, the misery index has increased from 9.4
>> to 10.4 percent in September.
>
>What was the peak misery index under Carter? 
>
>> In the same time period, Arkansas'
>> index declined by almost one-fifth.
>
>So? I wasn't aware that Arkansas had national monetary and fiscal
>policymaking powers.
>
>
	Where do these "misery index" figures come from? 

>
>I also believe that Bush added a statement to the effect of "on foreign
>soil" or "in a foreign country", which you so conveniently forgot to
>include. Or, should I say, Clinton's writers forgot to include.
>
	So what? I believe most Americans were sympathetic to Chinese
	students here in America who demonstrated against their gov't's
	policies after "tienemen" (sp?) square.  Besides, isn't England
	our ally? 
>
>
>> Under George Bush, the
>> number of personal bankruptcies filed exceeds net new jobs created by
>> a 2.4-1 margin.
>
>Ohhh... What a unique concept. Comparing two unrelated and meaningless
>statistics and attempting to draw a conclusion.
>
>	Yeah, like "family values" and "politics?"
>
>> RHETORIC: The day after Bush addressed the Republican National
>> Convention, the Dow Jones Industrial average sank 50.79 points, to a
>> four-month low of 3,254.10. It was the second biggest drop for the
>> average in 1992. 
>
	Naah, probably it was because nobody shut down any factories
	that day.
>	
What was the index when Bush took office? What is it today?
>
>
	Again, so what?  The stock market has been going up and
	down so much lately, you can't help thinking about A
	Clockwork Orange. Seriously, those wallstreeters go nuts
	when they don't know who to bribe.

	
>> RHETORIC: George Bush has twice vetoed the Family and Medical Leave
>> Act, which would allow parents to take 12 weeks of unpaid leave to
>> care for sick relatives or newborns.
>
	It's too bad people didn't have the good sense to find jobs
	in factories just before they have a baby, get a sick parent,
	etc.  Then, they could plan their babies around the plant
	closings.  Everybody would be happy.

>
>What is the per capita spending on AIDS compared to other diseases like
>Cancer and heart disease?
>
	When considering AIDS spending vs. cancer, etc., we MUST keep
	in mind that it's congagious, i.e., a PUBLIC HEALTH THREAT.
	While the others are deserving of attention, they aren't con-
	tagious.
>
>
>Funny, I seem to see concrete proposals on what to mandate to insurance
>companies. How did Slick forget to mention what he wants to do to lawyers?
>Did he forget? Did he get tired? Did he get an endorsement from the
>American Trial Lawyer's Association?
>
>MD
>
	What does BC want to to to lawyers?  



		Judy

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