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From: mclagan@sfu.ca
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: AppleShare workstation software
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:48:46 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

The AppleShare workstation software can be set to open volumes
automatically at startup, but seems to be impatient when doing
NBP lookups for servers in other zones, particuarly under busy 
conditions. Many of our users don't end up with all the volumes 
we would like them to have.
 
Is anyone aware of a hack or solution that would make the
AppleShare software wait a little longer for server
names appear?
 
Thanks,
 
Scott McLagan
mclagan@fraser.sfu.ca
From: CEBEN@NERVM.BITNET (Charles Benjamin)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: unsubscribe
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:32:43 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Please unsubscribe ceben@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu.  Thank you
From: Nic@heat.kth.se (Niclas Ihren)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: PC Telnet over localtalk ?
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:01:47 GMT
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Organization: Dept of Heat Technology, 08-790 62 24

My question:
Is it possible to run Telnet on PC:s with PhonenetTalk and Localtalk boards
installed, when the router supplying IP-numbers is in another Appletalk
zone?

When we try to run Telnet (v. 2.3.05b) we get the following error:
"Unknown Appletalk Driver Error -205"

We suspect the error means that no IP-address can be found because the
router cannot be reached. We have defined zone="router-zone" in config.tel
just as you would on a Mac. This gives no error, but doesn+t seem to help.
We have loaded COMPAT.COM with ABOTH.BAT so that is not the source of the
error.

Has anyone else come across this problem and managed to solve it (or not)?

All answers appreciated

/Niclas
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: kevin@rodin.wustl.edu (Kevin Ruland)
Subject: CAP vs netatalk
Organization: Center for Optimization and Semantic Control, Washington University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:56:17 GMT


I thought I new everything about appletalk <-> unix communications, but now..

For over a year now I've been running CAP 6.0 pl 125 (?) on a Sun 4m.
I've gotten AUFS (server side), PAP, and lwsrv running.  However I just
saw a reference to AFS (to access archive.umich.edu).  In my digging I
ran into netatalk-1.2.1.  It seems that these packages are somewhat similar
and provide some of the same features, but I would like someone familiar
with both of them to tell me more.  My big question is can I use the
pap code from netatalk with the CAP libraries?  pap from netatalk seems
to be easier to configure (for page reversal and text file printing).

I've tried many times to get psf v3pl5 and papif from CAP6.0 to work together
but haven't succeeded.  Any hints?

And finially can anyone recommend one of Eudora, POPmail, TechMail pop clients
over the other?

Thanks for any advice.

Kevin Ruland
kevin@rodin.wustl.edu
From: mark@cad.gatech.edu (Mark Reed)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: CAP over LocalTalk?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 16:49:32 -0500
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: cae.cad.gatech.edu
Keywords: CAP, Native A/UX, No EtherTalk Noplace

I am trying to set up a system by which I may print to Unix lpd-accessible
printers from MacOS over LocalTalk.  I have CAP 6.0 which I am attempting to
install under A/UX 3.0.  All of the documentation indicates that this would work
great over EtherTalk or IPTalk.  I've heard rumours of this working over
LocalTalk, but I can find nothing supporting this in the distribution.

Anyone out there gotten CAP working over LocalTalk from A/UX?  
I'd appreciate any pointers...

Thanks in advance...

-Mark J. Reed

P.S. I don't have any philosophical objection to switching to EtherTalk, and our
Macs have Ethernet cards, but they use them to talk TCP/IP.  I know that
EtherTalk and IP will coexist happily on a single Ethernet, but I have my
doubts about MacTCP and EtherTalk sharing an interface.  I can't even get two
MacTCP programs to share...
From: to5232@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Routing btwn Ethernet Legs
Date: 17 Dec 92 09:02:01 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Is it possible to route two separate legs of Ethernet together using a single
Mac with two ethernet cards in it?  If not, why?

Also If not then how would this be done?  Like have two mac with Apple Internet
Routing software running on each, connected these two with LocalTalk then
having Ethernet in one and Ethernet in the other?


        +----+     LocalTalk      +----+
        |MAC |--------------------|Mac |
        +----+                    +----+
          ||                        ||
Ethernet  ||                        || Ethernet
          ||                        ||


Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: gogan@hermes.oit.unc.edu (Jim Gogan)
Subject: NCSA Telnet/MacTCP/Mac LC
Originator: gogan@hermes.oit.unc.edu
Keywords: MacTCP, NCSA Telnet
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:30:20 GMT


We have been experiencing an on-going problem that, now that the semester is winding
down, we're trying to push to find an answer to.   Basically, we have found that it
is very easy (just by typing real fast, for example) to lock up an LC running telnet
sessions (doesn't matter to which hosts) with:
 - NCSA Telnet (either version 2.3 or 2.5)   AND
 - MacTCP (version 1.1)
Doesn't matter what brand of Ethernet adapter in the Mac; doesn't matter whether I'm
running System 6 or 7.

We do NOT have this problem running SU/Mac and MacTCP, nor do we have this problem
running NCSA ver 2.5 with hardware=ether.
Has anyone else seen this?

One interesting point that may be relevant.  I connected our lil'ol'Lanalyzer,
filtering for packets to-from the Mac LC I was working on.  And noticed the
following:
  - when using NCSA Telnet with hardware=ether, the TCP Window size used by the Mac
is whatever I specify with the rwin= parameter in config.tel (no surprise there); I
used values from 512 to 4096 -- all was OK;
  - when using SU/Mac IP with MacTCP, the TCP Window size used by the Mac is 1336;
  - HOWEVER, when using NCSA Telnet with MacTCP, the TCP Window size supposedly used
by the Mac (as shown in the packet trace) is 4788; that just seems kinda odd to me. 
Of course, the rwin parameter in config.tel has no effect if you're using MacTCP.

Any liklihood that this is related to our problem, and, if so, is there any way to
change parameters like this for MacTCP (or is it up to the application to deal with
that)?

Pointers will be - as always - greatly appreciated.  Please respond to me directly
thru e-mail.  I'll post the appropriate response (if any).
Thanks!

-- Jim Gogan (Jim_Gogan@unc.edu)
   OIT Networking Systems
   University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
From: killalea@UNIX2.TCD.IE (Tom Killalea)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Unsubscribe Tom Killalea
Date: 13 Dec 92 13:23:36 GMT
Reply-To: killalea@unix2.tcd.ie (Tom Killalea)
Organization: The Internet

remove Tom Killalea from the info-appletalk mail list.
--
Tom Killalea       +353 1 702 2165       Trinity College Dublin
                killalea@unix2.tcd.ie
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: lefty@apple.com (Lefty)
Subject: Re: New Apple Net Installer available?
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 01:58:19 GMT
Organization: Our Lady of Heavy Artillery
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk

In article <1gm5iaINN9uv@morrow.stanford.edu>, rex@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Rex
Sanders) wrote:
> 
> According to MacWEEK 12.14.92, Apple has just released Network Software
> Installer version 1.3, including the following:
> 
> - AppleTalk Version 58.0, recommended for all Macs
> - Network control panel version 3.0, with interface improvements
> - Driver updates for EtherTalk and TokenTalk (version 2.5)
> - A/ROSE version 1.1.9
> 
> Available on AppleLink.
> 
> I don't have an AppleLink account. Just checked on ftp.apple.com - still at
> NSI version 1.2.3.

NSI 1.3 should be available on both AppleLink and ftp.apple.com shortly. 
It will also be on the next Developers' CD.  Keep in mind that Mark Johnson
basically keeps ftp.apple.com going out of sheer goodness-of-heart, rather
than out of any specific responsibility to do so as part of his job
description.

--
David "Lefty" Schlesinger (lefty@apple.com)
Chief AppleTalk Bug Wrangler
Apple Computer, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: wdburns@walker2.hu.mtu.edu (WILLIAM DAVID BURNS)
Subject: Re: New Apple Net Installer available?
Organization: CCLI Macintosh Lab, Michigan Tech University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:43:25 GMT

I downloaded a copy of the 1.3 NSI from AppleLink, and it worked very well.

Unfortunately, the MacTCP (v1.1) control panel no longer shows my LocalTalk
icon in the box...everything works ok, but what happens if I need to switch
my hardware connection?  Will Ethernet not show up as well?

Anyways, that's my findings...I don't understand why Apple doesn't put the
NSI 1.3 on their FTP server..


-- 

  Bill Burns       [ Internet: wdburns@mtu.edu ]
                   [ AppleLink: SHADOW         ]
  Apple Student Rep, MTU
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: matth@locus.com (Matt Hardin)
Subject: Re: Dual-homing on AppleTalk?
Organization: Locus Computing Corp, Los Angeles
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:58:01 GMT

In article <gf_DApu00WCoMJSnlE@andrew.cmu.edu> tjh+@CMU.EDU (Tom Holodnik) writes:
>
>Do any machines support dual-homing on AppleTalk networks?  That is,
>would a NetWare server (for instance) support AppleTalk connections on
>two networks (without routing!)? 

I assume you are asking about file/print servers.

PC-Interface for Macintosh (from Locus) will support multiple ethernet
interfaces. These interfaces are assumed to be on separate wires and no routing
is performed.

PC-Interface is available for the RS-6000 (AIX 3.1-3.2), Sun, ISC, and SCO.


Hope this helps.

Matt Hardin
Locus Computing Corporation
(310) 670-6500

Claimer: I work for Locus and I think the product is great! So does Locus!

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: Apgar@Apple.com (Gar)
Subject: Re: Sending email from internet to applelink
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 00:01:28 GMT
Organization: Apple
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk

In article <timmer.724588830@dutiag>, timmer@dutiag.tudelft.nl (I.
Timmermans) wrote:
> 
> Can anybody tell me how I can reach someone on applelink? I know the procedure to send email from Compuserve to internet and back but this should be possible for applelink too. 
> 
> Also I would like to know if it is possible to get someone's full name and telephone number when I have his applelink email addres. 


If you can log on to AppleLink, use the Find Address feature.
There is usually a complete name or Company name with every address.
No phone numbers, though.

Apgar@Apple.com   |   Eric Apgar  alias  Gar   |   I said it, NOT Apple.
Organization: Bar-Ilan University Computing Center, Israel
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 09:56:33 IST
From: Noam G. Nudelman <P88038@BARILVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: localTalk / PhoneNET connections


Hi,
  We installed a GatorBox GX this week.
  We have 3 clusters of 4 mac connected with LocalTalk cables.
  Is it  possible to simply (?) make a wire that at one side is
RJ-11 and the other side connects to the existing LocalTalk
connecting box or must I replace all the existing LoaclTalk
wires and connectors to PhoneNET connecters ?

   Thanks in advance for your replies.

                                           Noam

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~   |\/\/\/|
  Noam G. Nudelman           Bitnet:    p88038@barilvm           |      |
  Computer Center            Internet:  noam@erez.cc.biu.ac.il   | (o)(o)
  Bar-Ilan University        Telephone: 972-3-531-8627           |    __)
  Ramat-Gan, Israel 52900    Fax:       972-3-344-446            | ,___|
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~   |   /
Picard: "Sometimes, Number One, you just have to...bow to the absurd".
                                  -- "Up The Long Ladder", Stardate 42
From: rex@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Rex Sanders)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: CAP 6.0pl126 Phase 2 multi zone problem
Date: 16 Dec 1992 03:14:17 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Reply-To: rex@octopus.wr.usgs.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: pangea.stanford.edu

I'm about to migrate 120 Macs and 15 LaserWriters from LocalTalk to Ethernet.
We're running CAP 6.0pl126 on a Sun SS2 with SunOS 4.1.3, using Native
Ethertalk via NIT.  A rough, simplified sketch:

     EtherTalk Zones:  M (default), A, B
  ================Bridge================================  Ethernet
       |                        |              |
   FastPathB                FastPathA         SS2
       |                        |
   LocalTalk                LocalTalk
   Zone: B                  Zone: A

Basically, zones A and B each span one LocalTalk segment and one EtherTalk
segment.  The SS2/CAP is set to live in zone M.  The EtherTalk zones are
advertised by FastPathB.  Both are ancient FastPath 4 boxes.  I could not get
FastPathA to "take" the multi-zone setup.

I want to migrate all Macs & LaserWriters (using EtherPrints) as
transparently to users and hosts as possible.  I've experimented with a
couple of Macs and one LaserWriter.

The problem is, when a Mac or LaserWriter is put on the Ethernet, and their
zone is set to A, the SS2 running CAP cannot see them.  "Seeing", in this
case, includes using "atlook @A", or using lpr/papif to print to the
LaserWriter.  Strangely enough, the EtherTalk Macs can see and mount the SS2
AUFS file systems.

This problem is critical, as dumping 120 Macs & 15 LaserWriters into the
default zone (M) is not an option. We really want to keep the SS2 in the M
zone, AND print to the LaserWriters in zones A & B.

Has anyone got any suggestions?  Could this be a bug in CAP?  Kind
suggestions to RTFM are gladly accepted, as long as you specify *where* in
TFM to R.

Thanks.

-- Rex
   rex@octopus.wr.usgs.gov
From: uni@acs.bu.edu (Shaen Bernhardt)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Appletalk Remote Access...?
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:49:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

Forgive the newbie question... I couldn't find a FAQ file...

Can anyone tell me if it is possible to link to an appletalk network, or
to create one using modems alone?  Is this what Apple Talk Remote access is?
Is the proper software provided in system software, or available as an update
or some such thing?

On the same note, is it possible to create an appletalk environment over
internet links?  On IRC perhaps?

email replies apprecated, but all replies welcome!

uni@acs.bu.edu

-- 
uni@acs.bu.edu  ->  Public Keys by finger and/or request
Soverignty is the sign of a Brutal Past.
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: lam@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Lam)
Subject: Re: CAP on SPARC2
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:03:04 GMT

eric@tsunami.jpl.nasa.gov (Eric Huang) writes:

>Recently, I've downloaded CAP60,pl100 and installed it on the
>SUN SPARC2 running sunos and native Ethertalk Phase 2.  I am trying
>to print from the SUN to the LaserWriter IIg, and both are connected to the
>same Ethernet network.  However I am not able to see the laserWriter when i do
>atlook.  I do see the laserwriter on a Mac's chooser which is also on the
>same network.  And on the SUN side, when i do atlook, i can see the Mac
>and the SUN itself and the LaserWriter created by lwsrv daemon.

>I have been playing around with the CAP for a while now and getting no
>where.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Install the patches(101-126).  That should fix the problem.  Thought those
IIg/fs are really flaky in terms of non MAC compatability.

--
Ken Lam                                                     (803)-884-7615 (H)
System Administrator                                        (803)-792-4969 (W)
Senior Systems Consultant                                   (803)-792-5446(FAX)
Netware/UNIX System Programmer/Integrator                    lam@jove.cofc.edu
MultiMedia Works & Video Productions ======= Teaching the world in better ways

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: Gavin Eadie <Gavin@UMich.EDU>
Subject: Re: New Apple Net Installer available?
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 17:17:32 EST
Organization: U of Michigan Information Systems
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d13
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X-Xxdate: Thu, 17 Dec 92 22:17:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.174325.24507@mtu.edu> WILLIAM DAVID BURNS,
wdburns@walker2.hu.mtu.edu writes:
>Anyways, that's my findings...I don't understand why Apple doesn't put
the
>NSI 1.3 on their FTP server..

      One reason is that the Apple ftp service is a voluntary activity
and doesn't get first priority in the busy custodians life.  NSI 1.2.3
*is* there and I expect it'll only be a short while before it's updated
... Gav
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: veizades@apple.com (John Veizades)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: MacTCP on a Plus
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:25:44 GMT
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.


> There is a MacTCP+ tool on the archives either sumex or umich, and problably
> many others that is needed to run MacTCP 1.1.1 on a plus.
> I have several pluses using it and it work fine, but make sure that you
> have it located in the control panels folder in sys7.


THIS TOOL IS ONLY FOR USE WITH MacTCP 1.1 !!!!! MacTCP 1.1.1 has thisfixed
incorporated in it please use MacTCP 1.1.1.

John Veizades...
MacTCP Lead Engineer
Apple Computer, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Question : AppleTalk and LocalTalk
From: jokim@eis.calstate.edu (Joon Y. Kim)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:09:55 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Can anyone help me with a very basic question? What is the difference if
any between AppleTalk and LocalTalk? Mac Sale International is selling a
LocalTalk Board for the PC for $25. The rep said it was made by Apple.
Then I saw that Shreve Systems is selling a AppleTalk PC card for $49; the
rep there said it is made by Apple as well. Which should I buy if I want
to connect my Mac to my PC using the AppleTalk port built into my Mac? I
have the MacTOPS software and want to set up a small "network" with my
computers.
		THANKS in advance!

						Joon Kim
						jokim@eis.calstate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: veizades@apple.com (John Veizades)
Subject: Re: New Apple Net Installer available?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:29:53 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk

For those using MacTCP 1.1 and the new NSI 1.3 AppleTalk installer.  MacTCP
1.1 will loose the LocalTalk icon when NSI 1.3 is installed.  If you want
to use LocalTalk and MacTCP you should get MacTCP 1.1.1 which does not have
this problem.

John Veizades...
Apple Computer, Inc.
MacTCP Lead Engineer
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: haase@meediv.lanl.gov (Peter Haase)
Subject: Re: ARA and in-line authentication
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:57:17 GMT

In article <brady-161292075059@jbrady.aero.org>, brady@osiapps.aero.org
(John Brady) wrote:
> 
> Has anyone tried using an in-line authentication box (like the
> Digital Pathways Defender 5000) with ARA?
> 
> An in-line authentication box would sit between the answering
> modem and the ARA server.  The user would have to prove his or her
> identity before the authentication box would complete the connection
> to the ARA server.  I guess the real question is can the ARA client
> software support this dialog prior to completion of the ARAP connection.
> 
Why would you want to do that since on an ARA dial-in the user has to
provide a valid username and password. Seems kind of redundant.

*******************************************************************
Peter Haase                                   haase@meediv.lanl.gov
Los Alamos National Laboratory                Applelink: HAASE
Mechanical Electronic Engineering Division    505-667-2684
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.unix.ultrix
From: ccwj@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Wayne Jennings)
Subject: Re: CAP & Ultrix 4.3 -- PF patches needed?
Organization: James Cook University
Distribution:  world
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 00:10:59 GMT

In article <BzBq7C.K4t@mtholyoke.edu> jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz) writes:
>Does anybody know if the packet-filter patches that were necessary
>to make CAP work under Ultrix 4.2 are built into Ultrix 4.3?  I'm
>hoping to install Ultrix 4.3 in the near future, but I don't want
>to break CAP in the process...
>

CAP under Ultrix 4.3 does not require the packet filter patches. 

Wayne Jennings
Computer Centre
James Cook University
TOWNSVILLE QUEENSLAND
AUSTRALIA
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu (Matt Healy)
Subject: Re: Question : AppleTalk and LocalTalk
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Organization: Yale University--Genetics
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:47:02 GMT

In article <BzAK0K.95y@eis.calstate.edu>, jokim@eis.calstate.edu (Joon Y.
Kim) wrote:
> 
> Can anyone help me with a very basic question? What is the difference if
> any between AppleTalk and LocalTalk? Mac Sale International is selling a
> LocalTalk Board for the PC for $25. The rep said it was made by Apple.
> Then I saw that Shreve Systems is selling a AppleTalk PC card for $49; the
> rep there said it is made by Apple as well. Which should I buy if I want
> to connect my Mac to my PC using the AppleTalk port built into my Mac? I
> have the MacTOPS software and want to set up a small "network" with my
> computers.
> 		THANKS in advance!
> 
> 						Joon Kim
> 						jokim@eis.calstate.edu

Appletalk is a software protocol which can run over a variety
of hardware cabling systems, such as Ethernet, Token Ring, and
LocalTalk.  Appletalk drivers for non-Apple hardware have such
names as EtherTalk and TokenTalk -- where the first part of the
name refers to the type of hardware cabling.

LocalTalk is Apple's proprietary type of cabling.

At one time, before AppleTalk protocols could be run over
third-party cabling, Apple sometimes used "Appletalk" in reference to
both hardware and software, and the confusion thus created
may never be cleared up.

If the LocalTalk board comes with the appropriate driver
software, then it *should* work on your PC.  Everything
you need on the Mac side except the cable should have come
with your Mac.  If you have System 7 then you also have all
the file-sharing software you need to set up a server.

There is one *big* advantage to buying the Apple product:
genuine Apple priducts come with excellent manuals giving
step-by-step directions for setup.  Other companies' products
are cheaper, but their manuals are rarely as good.  For a
price differential of only 25 dollars I personally would get
the Apple product--their manual may well save you half a day
of hassles, and that amount of time would be worth more than
25 dollars to me!  :-) :-} :-D  :-^}

I don't know anything about Tops.

Matt Healy
"I pretend to be a network administrator; the lab
 net pretends to work!"

matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu