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From: goathunter@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,vmsnet.sources.d
Subject: GAWK source (was Re: Tool to reorganize/transform ASCII files)
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:03:22 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <C1Ktxs.JF7@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, mdchaney@fractal.ucs.indiana.edu (M Darrin Chaney) writes:
>
> Well, I was going to suggest gawk, but you've heard about it already.  I'll
> suggest it anyway.
> 
> While I don't have the gawk source available, you can ftp to my machine
> (fractal.ucs.indiana.edu) and grab some sample awk programs there.  I also
> have a zipcode database, and the awk programs to fix it up.  You can also
> find the gawk manual in tex or ps format there.
> 
You can get GAWK v2.14 via anonymous ftp from ftp.spc.edu in
[.MACRO32.SAVESETS].  You'll need [.MACRO32]UNZIP.EXE to unzip it.
The packages are (.ZIP extensions):

GAWK-2-14		GAWK (GNU awk) v2.14.0 (includes VMS binaries)
GAWK-DOC-2-14		.DVI and .INFO files for GAWK v2.14.0 manual
GAWK-PS-2-14		PostScript versions of GAWK v2.14.0 manual/man pages

You can also get GAWK via e-mail by sending one or more commands like
the following in the body of a mail message to FILESERV@WKUVX1.BITNET:

SEND GAWK-2-14
SEND GAWK-DOC-2-14
SEND GAWK-PS-2-14
SEND FILESERV_TOOLS	!Includes MFTU and UNZIP, which are needed

Hunter
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goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@UKCC.UKY.EDU)
Xref: sparky comp.os.vms:21872 comp.lang.c:20145 vmsnet.alpha:146 cern.alpha:32
From: nreadwin@micrognosis.co.uk (Neil Readwin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,comp.lang.c,vmsnet.alpha,cern.alpha
Subject: Re: functions as arguments in DEC C
Date: 24 Jan 93 17:33:04 GMT
Organization: Micrognosis, a division of CSK(UK) Ltd

In article <1993Jan24.094945.7767@dxcern.cern.ch>, burow@dxcern.cern.ch (Burkhard Burow) writes:
|>That's why I need a cast for saying:
|> 'This is a pointer to a function.
|>  I don't give a flying f*** about the type of argument the function returns.'
 
Having spent a little time reading through both the standard and the Rationale
(especially 3.2.2.3), I do not think that ANSI C provides this. This came as
something of a surprise to me.

|>          EXCEPT SO FAR FOR DEC C, WHICH I CAN'T CONVINCE, 
|>          BUT I'M HOPING SOMEONE OUT THERE CAN TELL ME HOW.

You could try /STANDARD=COMMON. You could also try complaining to Digital
and asking them to make this a warning instead of an error, since it seems
unreasonable to refuse to produce an object file due to this kind of
mismatch. The five other compilers that I have to hand (SunOS, AIX, NeXT
(aka gcc), HP/UX and Ultrix) give a warning about this and continue. Neil.
-- 
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From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Moderated List????
Date: 22 Jan 1993 12:04:08 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <2177@bdrc.bdrc.bd.com>, woody@bdrc.bd.com (Woody Muller) writes:
>>How about all of the people that Carl has helped and/or steered in the right
>>direction?  I think that the latter far out-weigh the former, and frankly, I
>>don't care about the former.  [Steve G.]
>
>Here we disagree.  The number of people chased away far exceeds the number
>of people Carl has flamed.  A lot of good questions never got asked at all,
>because potential participants saw that we had a mad dog on our hands.
>And most of those answers would have come eventually from people with
>less time on their hands than Carl apparently has.

I see.  You're another newbie who hasn't been following this group for years.
Otherwise you might have addressed the question of how many people I've "helped
and/or steered in the right direction."

>Knowing what's relevant and what's not is one of the things that divides
>the help-givers from the help-needers.  It is not fair nor valid to expect
>the questioners to know [almost] as much as the answerers before they even
>ask.  And it is most certainly rude to flame them in public if they don't.

I see.  You're yet another of the PC pop-psych folks who believes that someone
using a computer shouldn't be forced to have even the vaguest idea of how the
computer works;  he shouldn't even understand that what commands he gives the
computer and what response the computer gives him *MIGHT* be relevent to his
problem.  Go contemplate your navel some more.
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Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: bruce@ais.com (Bruce C. Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Receiving outside messages in a file .. possible ?
Date: 23 Jan 93 10:15:53 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Applied Information Systems, Chapel Hill, NC

In article <01GTT2VGDMN48Y6630@JCSVAX1.BITNET>, HANY@JCSVAX1.BITNET writes:
>         I am writing a small program that requires the reception of messages
> sent to my address to be captured, in real time, to an open input file.
> For example
> 
> $ FINGER @nodename
> 
> returns a list of logged in users that is output to the screen. When I tried
> DEFINE SYS$INPUT, I still got the list on my screen, and the input file, after
> closing it, was found to be empty. Nothing was directed there.
> DEFINE SYS$OUTPUT also didn't work. Those seem to only work when action is
> taken from within the account. What about text coming from other sources ?
> How can I capture that ?

If I understand you correctly, you want to put the output from FINGER
into a file rather than onto your screen.  Defining SYS$INPUT won't
have any effect -- that will only redirect input TO the FINGER program,
not output FROM it.

What you probably want to do is

	$ define /user sys$output myfile.lis

If that doesn't work, then the FINGER program is probably not writing
its output to that source.  You could try:

	$ define /user tt myfile.lis

This still might not work, depending on how FINGER is writing its output.
This redirection to a file will only work if the program is using RMS
to write its output to the terminal;  if it's using direct QIO calls to
the TTDRIVER, it won't work.  Your only alternative would be to look
into pseudoterminals or possibly mailboxes (some interactive progams
get very upset with mailboxes but are happy with pseudoterminals).

Good luck,

Bruce C. Wright
From: matthews@vulcan.resmel.bhp.com.au
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: V5.5-2 BACKUP-E-NOMSG
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:30:28 +1000
Organization: BHP Research - Melbourne Laboratories

Since upgrading to v5.5-2 I occasionally get the following error from backup
when it has completed a image backup disk to disk:

%BACKUP-E-NOMSG, Message number 10A3800A

Can someone explain to me the meaning/purpose of this error message?

Thanks
Ian

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From: bill@bill.ab.umd.edu (Bill Bame)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: help: huge index file
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:04:31 GMT
Reply-To: bill@office.ab.umd.edu
Followup-To: comp.os.vms
Organization: M.I.E.M.S.S.

In article <26JAN199310483026@vtpwr2.psl.ee.vt.edu>, gharpure@vtpwr2.psl.ee.vt.edu (VASUDEV GHARPURE) writes:

>...But I am left with a huge index 
>file (about 31K blocks). The original file was about 5K blocks.
>
> How do I get the index file back to normal?

$ init device-name volume-label

Of course this will erase any files you have on the disk.  Check the qualifiers
for INIT, there are lots of things you can do to control the size of INDEXF.SYS
if your situation warrants it.

> What harm does it do if it stays as it is?

None.  It will grow again anyway as soon as you start filling the disk up
again.  Surely you can spare <2% of your total space for a lowly index file.

>
>Vasudev
>gharpure@power.psl.ee.vt.edu
>

-Bill

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From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,vmsnet.tpu
Subject: Re: HELP!! String search and replace
Date: 28 Jan 1993 10:05:12 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1993Jan28.025042.7651@seq.uncwil.edu>, hawks@seq.uncwil.edu (David Hawks) writes:
>It is  good to know that not everyone out there is a flamethrower wielding
>netter. 

But *I* am.  However, your post clearly stated the problem, there wasn't any
obvious HELP file entry or manual section that told you how to deal with the
problem, and you didn't ask that the result simply be mailed to you.

See how much difference posting a lucid question can make :-)?
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: sabotkap@woods.ulowell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Can DCL programs execute 'other' commands ?
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:08:52 GMT
Organization: University of Lowell

francini@narfvx.enet.dec.com (John Francini) writes:
->  
->  $ mail
->  read 1
->  read 2
->  exit
->  $ more-dcl-stuff
->  
->  
->  Be aware that DCL will not perform symbol substitution on data lines fed to
->  programs.  [I personally think this is most unfortunate, but I have no
->  input to VMS development...]
->  
->  John Francini

A workaround to this limitation would be something along the lines of the 
following:
			$ symbol = "This is a test string"
			$ open/write outfile TEST.COM
			$ write outfile "$ MAIL
			$ write outfile "''symbol'"
			$ write outfile "quit"
			$ write outfile "$ EXIT"
			$ close outfile
			
			(TEST.COM)
			$ MAIL
                        This is a test string
			quit
			$ EXIT

You now have a command file that has symbol substitution for input
to an image (granted, this is 'kludgy', but it works well for 
some applications.

Peter Sabotka, Meteorology Dept.           
University of Massachusetts - Lowell      sabotkap@woods.ulowell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: scottb@sun1x.actc.res.utc.com (TheLrdLovsAHngn)
Subject: Re: How can I change my Username
Organization: United Technologies Research Center
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:21:30 GMT

You can change your process name by typing "Set proc/name="something that is
15 or less chars".  As for changing your username, unless you hack into the
system (which will probably get you kicked off of it), you will need to 
talk to your system manager.


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From: BYRD@MSCF.MED.UPENN.EDU ("Karen Byrd, Med. School Computer, U of PA")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: INSFMEM error during Standalone Backup
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:28:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet



What would cause an "INSFMEM insufficient dynamic memory" error
message during a standalone backup save/copy operation
using a standalone backup kit created with the standard
STABACKIT.COM?

It seems strange that the specified NPAGEDYN sysgen
parameter in STABACKIT.COM wouldn't be enough. This
system is still running vms 5.4. This a first attempt
at using a DAT 4mm drive(TA81 clone) to do the job.

The BACKUP command is as follows:

$BACKUP/IMAGE/INIT $1$DUA0: $1$MUA2:20JAN93.BCK/REWIND/LABEL=NONAME -
   /BLOCK=24576



	Karen Byrd, VAX Sys. Manager
	University of Pennsylvania
	Medical School Computer Facility
	Philadelphia, PA 19104 (USA)
	Internet: byrd@mscf.med.upenn.edu
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: most stable VMS-system in the world.
Date: 22 Jan 1993 11:45:54 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1993Jan20.194832.12624@wega.rz.uni-ulm.de>, ORAKEL@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Framstag) writes:
>no comment :-)
>
>$ write sys$output f$getsyi("hw_name")
>VAX 6000-440
>$ show system
>VAX/VMS V5.5-1  on node MAIN02  20-JAN-1993 20:40:57.20   Uptime  6-NOV-1859 17:06:50

You've set you system clock to sometime before the boot time.  That means that
when VMS subtracts current time from BOOTTIME time, it gets a positive number
and displays it as an absolute time rather than a relative time.
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: cliff@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu (cliff UCLA Astronomy)
Subject: Can I write in both low and high density on an Exabyte 8500
Keywords: Exabyte 8500
Reply-To: cliff@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu (cliff UCLA Astronomy)
Organization: UCLA Department of Astronomy
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:25:32 PST



 I just got an Exabyte 8500 and I want to know if I can write to it at both
 low(2.3gig) and high(5.0gig) densities....

 cliff
From: CTANSKI@ONONDAGA.BITNET (Chris Tanski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Programming
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:47:02 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I am going to be taking a programming course next year and I want to know
which one to take. My options are: BASIC, Pascal, FORTRAN, C, and COBOL. I
want to be able to write programs on my VMS acct. so whichever programming
language is best for that is the one I want. Thanks and please reply directly
to ctanski@onondaga.bitnet.

Chris Tanski

ctanski@onondaga.bitnet   OCM BOCES
captanski33@snycorva.cortland.edu   SUNY Cortland
ctanski@nyx.cs.du.edu   Denver University
ag244@yfn.ysu.edu   Youngstown State University

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: gvrod@isuvax.iastate.edu (R Eldridge, VMS FOREVER)
Subject: Re: Tool to edit vmsmail_profile.data
Reply-To: gvrod@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:50:49 GMT

>franz@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Chris Franz) asks:
>
>Running VMS 5.5-1 on VAX 6410
>
>I need a tool (command procedure) to edit vmsmail_profile.data.
>Does such an animal exist?


>marshall@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM (Bob Marshall) writes:
> [...text deleted...]
> So, my question to Chris is, "What the hell is it you really want to do?"
>


>franz@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Chris Franz) replies:
>I guess brevity is not a virtue in this group.  Let me follow the
>guidelines and elaborate.  Our VMS environment is very dynamic.  I
>create and delete hundreds of accounts every semester.  When an
>account is terminated (files backed up and deleted, username removed
>from sysuaf and quota file), I wanted a way to remove all mail
>customization the user had done.  The defusing of a forwarding
>address, resetting the mail directory, and zeroing the new mail
>count are three things that can be done using various approaches
>as mentioned above, however, a record for that username remains
>in the mail profile.  Over time, old bones start to accumulate
>in the closet.  I wanted a way to remove the the username and
>all of its associated settings from vmsmail_profile.data.
>   

on my system (running vms v5.5-2), i use MAIL to remove the username:

$ MAIL
MAIL> HELP REMOVE

REMOVE


    Removes a user record from the profile (a data file containing the
    mail information for local MAIL users).  You need SYSPRV privilege to
    remove a record.


     Format:

         REMOVE username

[...]
MAIL> EXIT
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From: terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Receiving outside messages in a file .. possible ?
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:30:13 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <1993Jan23.101553.5958@ais.com>, bruce@ais.com (Bruce C. Wright) writes:
> If I understand you correctly, you want to put the output from FINGER
> into a file rather than onto your screen.  Defining SYS$INPUT won't
> have any effect -- that will only redirect input TO the FINGER program,
> not output FROM it.

  As the author of the Finger package Hany is using (JCSVAX1 is our "next
door neighbor" on BITNET), perhaps I can clarify:

  Finger does use SYS$OUTPUT and thus can be redefined with DEFINE/USER. How-
ever, it has a timeout (which is site-configurable) for the delay to wait for
a response from a BITNET node. If the response arrives before Finger times
out, Finger gets to do the displaying and sends it to SYS$OUTPUT. However, if
Finger gives up on the link, when the output comes back it will appear as an
interactive BITNET message, and since nothing is hanging around to trap it,
it gets turned into a terminal broadcast and isn't redirectable via a DEFINE
of SYS$OUTPUT.

  I know of two packages that "catch" broadcasts: Joe Meadows' GRAB package
(probably available from VMSSERV@FHCRCVAX.BITNET) and James Harvey's PHOTO
package (with the /BROADCAST qualifier, available from INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU via
anonymous FTP).

	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
	terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381
From: ckhaake@SOMNET.SANDIA.GOV (Cheryl K Haaker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: I'm leaving, too
Date: 27 Jan 93 05:58:32 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


I'm getting off the INFO-VAX list (as soon as I can figure out how).
The unprofessional tone of the postings lately is just too much,
and as innumerable others have noted, the signal to noise ratio is
way down.  It seems like most of the postings are flames, objections
to said flames, and indignant responses from the flamer.  And it
isn't calming down with time!  Now, nearly every post invokes yet
another round.

AND I CAN'T HIT THE 'N' KEY!  I'm stuck with "mailx" on a UNIX V
box.  Once you start reading a message, you've got to let it
scroll to the end.  So I've been pre-deleting messages that follow
the several flame threads (continually a growing number), to save
time and my patience.

I can save even more time by signing off INFO-VAX and learning to
use "rn".

I used to enjoy INFO-VAX, and wish to thank the many helpful
participants.  I appreciated the many scholarly postings and the
humor displayed.  Moreover, I hope the list recovers.  About all
it would take would be for Dr. Carl to go on Ritalin...

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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu
Subject: Re: VAX FORTRAN
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 06:58:51 GMT

In article <1k7gdaINNn40@gap.caltech.edu>, carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) writes:
| In article <27JAN199309324042@rdth2.rdth.luc.edu>, pbricker@rdth2.rdth.luc.edu
| (Preston Bricker) writes:
|>How do I send a file to a print queue from within a FORTRAN program?
|>There should be a hook equivalent to DCL PRINT.
|>If you post the answer, please also e-mail it.
| 
| Here's an example.  See the section on $SNDJBC in the System Services Reference
| Manual for details.
| 
| 	INCLUDE '($SJCDEF)'
| 	STRUCTURE /ITEM_LIST_3/
| 		INTEGER*2 BUFLEN, ITMCOD
| 		INTEGER*4 BUFADR, LENADR
| 	ENDSTRUCTURE
| 
| 	RECORD /ITEM_LIST_3/ ITMLST(4)
| 	BYTE QUEUE_NAME(9) / 'S', 'Y', 'S', '$', 'P', 'R', 'I', 'N', 'T'/
| 	BYTE FILE_NAME(8) / 'T', 'E', 'S', 'T', '.', 'D', 'A', 'T'/
| 	BYTE FORM_NAME(7) / 'D', 'E', 'F', 'A', 'U', 'L', 'T'/

[Rest of sample deleted]

    Geez, Carl, that's about the _ugliest_ fortran I've seen in a long time :-)
How about:

	CHARACTER  QUEUE_NAME*9, FILE_NAME*8, FORM_NAME*7
	PARAMETER (QUEUE_NAME = 'SYS$PRINT', 
     >		   FILE_NAME = 'TEST.DAT',
     >             FORM_NAME = 'DEFAULT')

Or, at the very least:

	CHARACTER  QUEUE_NAME*9/'SYS$PRINT'/, FILE_NAME*8/'TEST.DAT'/, 
     >             FORM_NAME*7/'DEFAULT'/

You know, the youngsters are _impressionable_!  

		Cheers, Ken
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From: mikes@Ingres.COM (Mike Schilling)
Subject: Re: Mailbox access
Date: 28 Jan 93 02:22:04 GMT

From article <1k628cINN2ei@gap.caltech.edu>, by carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick):
>...
> then you're probably running afoul of the fact that the logical name for the
> mailbox (assuming it's a temporary mailbox;  I'd hate to think that you might
> have PRMMBX priv) is, by default, placed in your job logical name table, which
> is not easily accessible to processes outside of your own job.  If that's the
> problem, then you'll have to find some other way for the process that creates
> the mailbox to communicate the name of the mailbox to the other process.

As I recall, this can be overcome by defining LNM$TEMPORARY_MAILBOX as
LNM$GROUP in the LNM$PROCESS_DIRECTORY table to override its default value of
LNM$JOB which is set in the LNM$SYSTEM_DIRECTORY table.  I don't recall if
this requires GRPNAM prvilege, though it seems likely. I remember having to 
fix up a lot of older programs this way when names for temporary mailboxes 
was moved to the (brand-new) job table back in ClosedVMS 4.0.
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