From: dnavas@oracle.uucp (David Navas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is it silly to buy an A3000 now?
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:03:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: oracle.1992Oct8.160345.28884
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[Folowups redirected to .advocacy where this kind of nonsense belongs in the
 first place.  In fact, this post won't even bother going into .hardware in
 the first place.]

With some disgusting bowel movement barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>The only thing that the A4000 has that the A3000 does not have is the 24-bit
     ^^^^
>video slot.  

It has an IDE interface, which the A3000 does not have.
It has an 040, which the A3000 does not have.
It has 24bit color, which the A3000 does not have.
It has adequate space above the processor slot for 040 cooling fins, which the
	A3000, arguably, does not have.
It has a 32bit path from RAM to video, which the A3000 does not have.
It comes with 3.0 (beta), which you can't get for the A3000 yet.
It has lots of other things that I'm probably leaving out, I think I've
made my point, though, no?

>   I am actively advising people...

...that you are an ignorant redneck, incapable of the smallest acts of social
graces (leaving advocacy, or the lack thereof, in .advocacy) and capable of
posting, in record time, distillations of truth that are more fiction
than reality.

>and upgrade them [A3000s] later with third-party video cards as soon as DIG is
>available.

2.0Beta --> 3.0Beta took, what, two years?
You are advocating (in the wrong group, AGAIN) that people wait two years
with a machine that has gfx capabilities that you have CONSTANTLY whined
about?

Marc, you make no sense.  You say you want better graphics.  So a machine
with better graphics, is, OF COURSE!, not the machine you'd advocate.
A machine with a version of your "yesterday's technology" processor (the
030) is, in your mind, preferred.  Look Marc, if you want Cmdre to go forward,
you kind of have to move along with them.  You should, instead, point out
that the A3000 is a good price/performance machine, the A4000 -might- be
a good price/performance machine, and the A3000T/040 is DOA (:) ).  Buy
the one you have the money for and live with it.

Think about it this way: you can stick the same gfx boards in the A4000
that you could in the A3000.

>             A4000: JUST SAY NO!!!

No, the A4000 replaces the A3000 at its old pricepoint.  The A3000 replaces
the A2000 at its pricepoint.  We high-end folks are still waiting for
Cmdre to make the A4000 "nicer", but then we're ALWAYS waiting for a
better machine, aren't we?

The comp.sys.amiga newsgroups are not your personal playground, nor anyone
else's.  If we all want to "get along," we ought to attempt to follow
the basic posting requirements of the people who participate.  Namely,
that things about hardware belong in .hardware, and opinionated trash (such
as many of us here like to write) belong in .advocacy.

If you continue to act in an obscene manner inside of a social circle, that
social circle will gather the means to remove you from interacting with
them.  That's not a threat, it's not even a Dan Barrett Customer Service
"promise."  It's prophecy insomuch as history is the best prophet of the
>future.

Marc, you do just fine keeping things in email, why do you need to post such
obvious fecal wastes all over the csa hierarchy?  There are going to be some
unpleasant comparisons between "Marc" and "birds", I can just see it now.

David C. Navas						dnavas@oracle.com
Working for, but not speaking on behalf of, Oracle Corp.