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From: salama@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Ashaar by Amjad Islam Amjad
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:01:57 AET
Organization: UCQ


Recently, a couple  of beautiful poems by Amjad Islam Amjad have been
posted on the net. I remember a  few "ashaars"(verses) from one of his
ghazals. I suppose a number of us can relate to them. 

       raat maiN is kashmakash meiN soya naheN
       kal maiN jub janelaga to os ney kioN roka naheN
       kioN uRati phir rahi hai darbadar mujh ko hawa
       maiN agar shakh sey TooTa hua patta naheN

A crude English translation:

       I couldn't sleep last night and kept wondering
       Why he didn't try to stop me (as usual) when I made a move to leave
       Why the wind is blowing me off here and there
       If I am not a leaf fallen off the tree

Hope you enjoyed it.
                          salam.
From: fxm4993@hertz.njit.edu (Farhan Muhammad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Vietnam War
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:04:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: njitgw.1992Nov9.200416.20425
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.
Originator: fxm4993@hertz.njit.edu



	Here is the another one written in the context of Vietnam war.

			HUNTING.

	Sighting down the long black barrel,
	I wait till front and rear sights
	Form a perfect line on his body,
	Then slowly squeeze the trigger.

	The thought occurs 
	That I have never hunted anything in my whole life
	Except other men.

	But I have learned by now
	where such thoughts lead
	My mind soon passes on
	To chow and sleep
	And how much longer till I change my socks.

					W.D.Ehrhart
From: smc2103@hertz.njit.edu (Shoaib M Chaudhry)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Lata Mangeshkar dead!!
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:40:56 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

Thanks God !!!!!!
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: eb139@cs.city.ac.uk (MAHMOOD Z)
Subject: Re: Pakistani Pop Music
Organization: City University
Date: 10 Nov 92 11:36:59 GMT

In <1992Nov10.043117.39970@slate.mines.colorado.edu> imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes:

>In article <1992Nov10.012022.29180@wam.umd.edu> punjabi@wam.umd.edu (Musst Musst) writes:
>>
>>Does anybody know of any new Pakistani pop groups that are good?
I recently heard a cassette by a group called 'Junoon'..they have been going
for quite some time now so i dont think you will classify them as 'new'. They
sing mostly in Urdu with the occasional English song which sounds quite a lot
like Def Leppard (!!!!).
Anyway enough of that...are there any more Pakistani groups worth listening
to?
From: ahmadt@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Tariq N Ahmad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan
Date: 5 Nov 92 10:45:35 GMT

Aslam-O-Laikam,	
	Does anybody know what the great qawal 'Nusrat Fateh
Ali Khan' is up to nowadays. I heard a rumuor that he was in
USA.
	It seems to me that nowadayshe just 'remixes' his old
stuff and markets it as a new album (as in the case of 'Mighty
Khan').
	Can anyone recommend a particular album ??

	Thanks.
	Tariq Ahmad (Manchester University)


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan)
Subject: Re: MULLAHS BURN QURAN AND DESCERATE MOSQUE IN DACCA
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 23:56:54 GMT

In article <samaddar.721544120@dumbo>, samaddar@siemens.com (Sumitro Samaddar) writes:
|> gt7242a@prism.gatech.EDU (KHAN,RAHEEL) writes:
|> 
|> >     Yes, you have a right to believe in what you want.  And the same Ayah 
|> >     also says that "the right direction is henceforth distinct from the
|> >     wrong direction"!  So believe in what you will but give us a right to 
|> >     safeguard our religion from youf evil.  
|> 
|> If you think that Ahmadis are preaching falsehoods, go ahead and preach
|> corrections to those falsehoods. But you don't have any right to commit
|> violence on them.
|> 
|> (And all this condoning of violence after a bunch of sane postings on
|>  S.C.I. Which is the real Raheel Khan?)
|> 
|> Sumitro

More important who is this Raheel Khan? is he a pathan or a non-pathan.

sahibzada rafay khan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: nadeem@igpho (Nadeem Malik)
Subject: Re: MULLAHS BURN QURAN AND DESCERATE MOSQUE IN DACCA
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:25:56 GMT

samaddar@siemens.com (Sumitro Samaddar) writes:
: gt7242a@prism.gatech.EDU (KHAN,RAHEEL) writes:
: 
: >     Yes, you have a right to believe in what you want.  And the same Ayah 
: >     also says that "the right direction is henceforth distinct from the
: >     wrong direction"!  So believe in what you will but give us a right to 
: >     safeguard our religion from youf evil.  
: 
: If you think that Ahmadis are preaching falsehoods, go ahead and preach
: corrections to those falsehoods. But you don't have any right to commit
: violence on them.
: 
: (And all this condoning of violence after a bunch of sane postings on
:  S.C.I. Which is the real Raheel Khan?)
: 
: Sumitro

You have hit the issue on the head.

People such as Raheel Khan often are able to enact a scholarly and even
partly rational people in normal circumstances when they are not 
challenged intellectually or at the level of justifying their faith on
the basis of therr Quran. The halmark of mullahism is their inability
to tollerate different opinions especially if these are intellectual
matters. So as a long as no one challenges them, they may well give 
an impression of sanity and even friendliness.

The moment they come up against Ahmadis they loose all sense of logic
and sensibility and expose their true brutal nature.

Nadeem Malik
nadeem@p.igp.ethz.ch
From: hassan@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Saad Hassan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Just like Mansoor Khan
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:45:31 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Keeping up the tradition of the Mansoor Khan jokes, here's another one,


	Kasparov (the chess player) challenged a Sardar Jee, to play
	chess with him, obviously the sardar refused saying that 
	kasparov would beat him at the game, after a lot of argueing
	Kasparov said "How about if I play with my left hand..you 
	know mein apney ooltey haath sey khelta hoon, phir to tum
	khelo gey na ?", the sardar accepted the challenge, after
	all kasparov was playing with his ulta haath !.

	Kaparov beat the sardar at the game, and later said, "abbey
	yar, tum to chillo bhar pannee mein doob maroo, merey ultey
	haat se bhi har gayey !", the  sardar was so pissed that he
	wanted to commit suicide, as he walked to the cliff (to jump off)
	he was approached by another sardar, the first sardar told him what
	had happened, and the second sardar replied "abbey yar, Kasparov 
	is left-handed, you should have played with his right hand !."

Saad
From: abbasa@ul.ie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Bahais and Islam
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:49:40 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

Subject: Question about Baha'i faction.
From: akbari@ces.cwru.edu (Kazem Akbari)
Date: 3 Nov 92 16:21:06 GMT
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science/CWRU
Article 3638 of soc.religion.islam:
From: mirza@vxcrna.cern.ch (MIRZA,I./EP)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Good Bye Mr. Bush
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:47:00 GMT
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1dadp7INNaht@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, khan@ces.cwru.edu (Mansoor Khan) writes...
> 
> 	Kuch'h baatay'n, kuch'h yaaday'n
> 	=================================
> 
>...deleted

	Very true description indeed but ..
		....Andhoon may Kanay Rajay..

Mirza Ilyas
Xref: sparky soc.culture.pakistan:16463 soc.culture.indian:36345
From: khan@ces.cwru.edu (Mansoor Khan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Cleveland's Sixth International Mushaairaa
Date: 9 Nov 1992 03:24:57 GMT
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science, Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: king.ces.cwru.edu

		
		Cleveland's Sixth International Mushaaeraa
		------------------------------------------

Bazm-e-Adab of Cleveland, Ohio, will be having its Sixth International
Mushaairaa on Friday, November 20, 1992 at 7:30 P.M. in
Drinko Hall, Music and Communication Building, Cleveland State University.
The  hall is at the intersection of Euclid Avenue and East 21st in Downtown.

The following poets are expected to participate in Mushaairaa ( in addition
to Cleveland's very own home-grown poets)

	Rahat Indori        Krishan Bihari Noor
	Ali Sardar Jafri    Obaidullah Aleem
	Anjum Rahber	    Nasir Turabi

Admission :	Donors  $25 per person
		Patrons $10 per person

For further information please contact:

Rajendra Khanna	(216) 562-2052
Qamar Khan      (216) 464 8318
Mukund Mehta	(216) 676-5426

P.S. Bazm-e-Adab of Cleveland is a non-profit organization serving
     the cause of Urdu language since 1982.

Mansoor Khan
Cleveland, Ohio
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Can I handcarry a Computer in PIA ??
From: <MYNLG@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Sunday, 8 Nov 1992 23:36:16 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Hello all!
             I'm from Nepal.I'm currently in NY but will be going home soon
for a short break.I'm planning to take my computer home.It's a mini tower
case computer.The exact dimension would be 18" x 16" x 7". I'm planning to put
this in a handbag which I've already bought! I would like to know if it's
allowed or anybody has done this (handcarry a computer in Pakistan Airlines)??
If not how much extra do i have to pay for every extra pound ?

                  Your help will be greatly appreciated!

                                     Thank you!!


                                                    Nish.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems.urdu,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian
From: ali@simdiv1.mentorg.com (Ali Haveliwala)
Subject: Vote results? / Marek (was: Urdu Ignorance)
Originator: ali@simdiv1
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:02:31 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics Corporation; Beaverton, Oregon
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

>>>>So good of you -- at last -- to grace rec.arts.poems with your (or Urdu)
>>poetic contributions, but could you please have the decency to report the
>>result of the Call For Vote on the creation of rec.arts.poems.urdu which
>>you said terminated on Nov. 4, *a week ago*?

So now the people of Urdu dont have decency. I just cant imagine how
		     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
people like you, have used and expressed your ignorance on the topic
of urdu.  I cant imagine that some other people could stoop so low to 
send hate mail. If one had any objections/reservations they had all the 
right to vote. 

I suggest to those who have a open mind to read the following. Maybe it could
solve the problem of ignornace and misinformation spread by a few on this
net.
	Urdu Letters of Mirza Ghalib -- by Daud Rahbar, New York University
					Press.
Mirza Ghalib was one of the greatest poets ever. The book has made a decent
attempt on translation and the life and thinking of this less known poet. Hope
you enjoy. All his letters contain some very emotional poetry.

>>You are being a very bad little net.doobie by keeping this undisclosed.

And, you are being a little bad impatient doobie --right. I have posted the
results last Sunday and the moderator shall post them on the net.

Take it easy buddy,

"True ignorance can always be forgiven "


Ali

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: mac1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mubashir Cheema)
Subject: Help/suggestions needed with airline reservation
Summary: reservation
Keywords: reservation
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 10:45:35 GMT



   Hello netters,
		a friend of mine had his seat reserved with PIA on 14th
 for Islamabad. Guess what ? PIA cancelled that flight :(
 He can't find a seat in any airline. Is PIA in any way responsible for
 getting him to Pakistan ? What other things besides killing his travel
 agent should he might want to try ?

 Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Mubashir Cheema
From: eesd2ag@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: to be muslim :< WAS conversion out of ISLAM????
Date: 5 Nov 92 12:05:20 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

RE: conversion to / out of islam?????


     As i see it to be a muslim one must wholeheartedly believe in the
teachings of the Quran and that belief must be deep inside the person.



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From: cs707ab@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Aftab)
Subject: Re: Lata Mangeshkar dead!!
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 05:43:29 GMT

In article <8988921.A098@netman.nms> rk@nms.hls.com (The Kafir) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.144056.10924@njitgw.njit.edu> smc2103@hertz.njit.edu (Shoaib M Chaudhry) writes:
>  >Thanks God !!!!!!
>
>Thanks (sic) God ? Why, because a noted Kafir [you thought] left her body ?
>You won't have thanksed Al-Elahi had she been a follower of Muhammed ? 
>

This person is indeed sick ..... makes it even worse when such things come
from educated (as in made it to a university) people! becasue our only
hope to bring a revolution in Pakistan is from the educated people.

>Well, the noted Kafir is still alive. Sad no ? Doncha worry. Come Qayamat,
>and all us Kuffars will be in a real hot spot (pun unintended).


Who/what is Al-Elahi btw?  :-)

>S Ramakrishnan

Kamran Aftab

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: usubrama@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Uma M Subramanian)
Subject: email discussion group for south asian women
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:20:50 GMT

There is an email discussion group for south asian women which has
been set up recently. Women from the south asian countries as well 
as women from other parts of the world interested in the issues that
concern south asian women are welcome to join this discussion group.
This group is not open to men as it is set up now. Women who would 
like to join this mailing list should send mail to 

usubrama@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu

OR

susanc@helix.nih.gov

Uma Subramanian

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan)
Subject: Re: Goodbye Mr. Bush
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 04:17:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.095239.14480@ra.msstate.edu> far1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Sayed Faraz A. Razavi) writes:
>Assalamalaikum!!!
>Isn't it great that the modern day Yazeed is gone :)...I am so happy to see
>this happen...next inshallah will be the fall of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait...

 he fall of saudi Arabia and Kuwait. You mean the fall of the royal families
of Saudia Arabia and Kuwait. Then you must also include the Dictators of 
Egypt, Iraq, Jordan , Syria, Morroco( another king) have i forgotten someone,
aha ofcourse Indonesia( is suharto still around).


>The Kaffir of these countries will find the follies of their ways with the
>mistakes they made to allow mushrikoon on our land...

our land ???????????????? you mean pakistan ????????

sahibzada rafay khan [ onwards to freedom from the despots of the muslim world]
From: gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: MULLAHS BURN QURAN AND DESCERATE MOSQUE IN DACCA
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:10:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: tamsun.1992Nov12.211011.4180
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University

In article <samaddar.721544120@dumbo> samaddar@siemens.com writes:
>gt7242a@prism.gatech.EDU (KHAN,RAHEEL) writes:
>
>>     Yes, you have a right to believe in what you want.  And the same Ayah 
>>     also says that "the right direction is henceforth distinct from the
>>     wrong direction"!  So believe in what you will but give us a right to 
>>     safeguard our religion from youf evil.  
>
>If you think that Ahmadis are preaching falsehoods, go ahead and preach
>corrections to those falsehoods. But you don't have any right to commit
>violence on them.
>
>Sumitro

I wonder if this problem can be viewed in another way. Consider the 
case in India. As long as the Indian muslims stuck to their religion,
there weren't any problems. But as soon as the muslims started to 
demand seperate states within India, the strife began. The problem
is not the tenets of the religion itself but the fact that muslims 
consider themselves as a seperate nation within a nation. Deep down
in our subconciousness, we would all rather first preserve our land
and social unity than the abstract concepts of religion.

Same might be the case with Ahmadis. It has time and again been 
stressed by muslims that Islam encompasses both religion and 
state affairs. Hence a seperate form of Islam (even the slightest 
variation from the Islam followed by the majority) would be 
perceived as an attempt to set up a seperate nation within a 
nation by this so called "renegade" Islam.  (wasn't there an 
attempt by the mullahs (in Pakistan or Iran) to declare the 
shia's (or was it sunnis) as non-muslims or to atleast take away
their voting rights ?). As long as muslims believe in the 
oneness of state and religion, I doubt if they will ever 
be able to tolerate any different form of Islam (tolerating 
other religions is totally out of question ofcourse 
-- unless they form a minority of inconsequential proportion). 

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: fb78@sol.acs.unt.edu (Ganesh Gopalakrishnan)
Subject: Re: Lata Mangeshkar dead!!
Organization: University of North Texas
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:56:55 GMT

jamshed@eniac.seas.upenn.edu writes:

>Netters

>There has been a rumour going around Penn campus about the death of 
>Lata Mangeshkar.

>Could somebody please confirm

The latest issue of India Abroad has a very lengthy feature on LM.
Makes no reference to any such bad news.

Whoever is spreading this nonsense is sick! - ganesh
From: hareb_s@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Goodbye (HAPPY?)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 05:48:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.095239.14480@ra.msstate.edu>, far1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Sayed Faraz A. Razavi) writes:
> Assalamalaikum!!!
> Isn't it great that the modern day Yazeed is gone :)...I am so happy to see
> this happen...next inshallah will be the fall of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait...
> The Kaffir of these countries will find the follies of their ways with the
> mistakes they made to allow mushrikoon on our land...
> Salam khodahafiz,
> Faraz
> 
> --
> ---------------------------------
> Sayed Faraz Ahmad Razavi(Rizvi)
> Mississippi State University
> far1@ra.msstate.edu 


You fake Sayyed!

Stop calling muslims as kafirs, and equating kafirs to muslims,
go re-learn your Arabic, and behave yourself.
Furthermore, who do you want Arabia and Kuwait to fall to ? ..
to the bunch of mulhid , kurmuti, rafidi, shabah haters, fitna mongers
among the muslims of the world, the killers of Hussain, Zaid, and scores
of their families, the helpers of Moghuls, the destroyers of Darul 
Khilafah, the opposition to every muslim state that came to this world
since the time of al-Khulafa Al-Rashideen. Who do you want our land
(not your land) to fall to. To Iran? or what are you talking about?
From: r3po@spectrx.saigon.com (r3po)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Re: RAG -- Questions for Rafay Khan
Keywords: nothing
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 03:36:07 PST
Organization: SPECTROX SYSTEMS (408)252-1005 Silicon Valley, Ca


> > From: azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar)
> > 	   That is exactly what today's liberals do not understand: They
> > allow everyone a right to their opinion as long as it does not
> > conflict with theirs. IS that what freedom of expression means?
> 
and why not, when they have a license to label anyone...


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
r3po@spectrx.saigon.com
From: salama@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Request for Nasir Kazmi's Nazm
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:15:01 AET
Organization: UCQ



   naye kapRey badal kar jaooN kahaN aur baal banaooN kis key leeaye
   woh shakhs to shahar hee choR gaya ab bahar jaooN kis key leeaye

   jis dhoop ki dil meiN Thandak thee woh dhoop oossi key sath gayee
   in jaltee jaltee galeeyoN meiN ab khak uRaooN kis key leeaye

   woh shahar meiN tha to oos key leeaye auroN sey bhi milna paRta tha
   ab aisey waisey logoN key naaz uThaooN kis key leeaye

   ab shahar meiN oss ka badal hee naheeN koi ussa jan-e-ghazal hee naheeN
   ewan-e-ghazal meiN lafzoN key guldan sajaooN kis key leeaye

   muddat sey koi aya nah gaya sunsaan paRee hay ghar ki fazaa
   in khaalee kamroN meiN "nasir" ab sham'A jalaooN kis key leeaye.

                     Salam.
From: cs707ab@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Aftab)
Subject: Re: Bad News...
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:07:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.182345.23410@prism.poly.edu> amatin@prism.poly.edu (Akbar Matin) writes:
>
>
>	Received a letter from a friend in Pakistan who writes that TV and
>movie star Ismail Shah (Shaeen of drama serial "Shaheen") and movie star
>Nayyar Sultana have passed away. The cause of the deaths is not known. May
>God bless the soul of the two and rest them in peace (A'ameen).
>

That confirms my fears ... when I heard incomplete news on a local Pakistani
radio program ... where the reader was mentioning that " .... he gained 
popularity from his tv series shaheen" ... Ismail Shah came to my mind ...
but he was so young ... wonder what happened. .... 

Kamran [sad] Aftab
>
>
From: fxm4993@hertz.njit.edu (Farhan Muhammad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: US Aid to Bangladesh.
Date: 10 Nov 92 23:17:24 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.
Originator: fxm4993@hertz.njit.edu



>I missed the initial part of this discussion.
>Why is US interested in giving Bangladesh millitary aid.Pakistan got the >millitary aid for being the front line
>country against Soviet Union in the 80's.
>Will Bangladesh be used against India?
>Is it a less expensive alternative to Phillipines?
>Is it going to be a base for repid deployment force to
>take care of mideast?
>I hope the leaders have enough sense to say no.

	


	NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....

						FARHAN MUHAMMAD
						muhammaf@erau.db.erau.edu

		I AM NOT A LEADER, BUT I CAN STILL SAY NO, CAN'T I.:-)


	Remember: A grain earned with own hands is much better than
		  bread fed by others........:-))[think about it folks]