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From: smd@hrt216.brooks.af.mil (Sten M. Drescher)
Subject: Re: STTNG Season Six Broadcast Schedule
Organization: AL/HRTI, Brooks AFB
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 02:03:36 GMT

In article <1b8947INNors@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> david@cats.ucsc.edu (David Wright) writes:

   |      11/21/92  227R 46001.3      Time's Arrow II
   |      11/28/92  228R 46041.1      Realm of Fear
   |      12/05/92  229R 46071.6      Man of the People
   |

   Why so many repeats? 

Think about it - TNG has gone into repeats every year (at least, it has
since I got back from Germany in '90) about this time.  Using Mark
Holtz' TNG List of Lists for dates, here's the breaks:

	Season 1	11th-Nov 28	12th-Jan 9
	Season 2	4th-Dec 10	5th-Jan 7
	Season 3	9th-Nov 18	10th-Dec 30
	Season 4	9th-Nov 17	10th-Dec 29
	Season 5	9th-Nov 16	10th-Jan 4
	Season 6	9th-Nov 14	10th-?

As you can see, only the first season had more than 9 episodes before
the break, and only the second, strike-delayed season ran into December
before the break.  So while this year has the earliest break by the
calendar of all the seasons to date, it isn't any earlier in the number
of episodes shown.
-------------------------------+---------------------------------------------
Sten Drescher                  | There are men who seem like more than men.
AL/HRTI                        | Living examples of what we could be if we
Brooks AFB, TX 78235           | tried.  They are men of courage, compassion,
-------------------------------+ and justice.  On the other hand, there are
sdrescher@animal.brooks.af.mil | presidential candidates.
From: Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: nudity on trek
Date: Wed,  7 Oct 92 09:23:45 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa
  <1992Oct6.104328.2958@wkuvx1.bitnet>

You know, I was positive that this one was tossed in here and would actually
have a message that read something like "So is Peter David really reading
this one?"

There actually has been nudity to some degree on Trek.  There was Picard
painting a nude model; then there was Q's au natural appearance on the
bridge.  And in "Cost of Living," there was a nude dancer.

But somehow I can't see them saying, "It's sweeps month; quick, get Troi's
clothes off."

PAD
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From: sroberts@leland.Stanford.EDU (Sarah Lynn Roberts)
Subject:  Plexing may actually work (!!)
Keywords: Plexing, relaxation, nervous system, "Realm of Fear", Troi
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 08:14:04 GMT


Hello everyone:

This is the first time I have ever posted to the net, so if I blow it in some
way please don't flame me :-).

I am responding to the question of whether Troi's plexing idea actually has
some biological basis (besides the placebo effect).  As you all remember from 
the "Realm of Fear" episode, Brocolli (Barkley) was feeling stressed out (so
what's new?) and Troi suggested that he tap on the side of his neck to get some
relief.  Brocolli proceeded to wander around the ship doing this, and, of
course, the question is:  did Troi tell him to do this 1) just to get a laugh,
2) to help him via the power of suggestion, or 3) to actually have him activate
a physiological relaxation system?

Well, even though I like the first possibility, I'd like to suggest a mechanism
by which plexing might work.  Okay, here goes....

The area which Troi told Barkley to tap is full of interesting structures,
several of which could have an affect on relaxation. The most likely candidate
is the vagus nerve.  This nerve lies very close to a swelling in the carotid
artery called the carotid sinus, and rubbing this sinus has been found to
stimulate this nerve.  Interestingly, the vagus nerve is a major nerve in what
is known as the parasympathetic nervous system, which regulates the body's
systems when we're not totally stressed out (i.e. it slows a heart-beat that is
too fast, helps increase appetite, etc).  These changes would generally make a
person feel more at ease, and perhaps the effect is even stronger in Betazoids.

Another possibility is that the sinus itself may be responsible. 
It also acts as a receptor which serves to help keep blood flow to
the brain at a constant level.  Now, the way this works is that this receptor isvery sensitive to stretch and if blood flow is too great, nerves here tell 
the brain to make the body relax, thus decreasing the overall blood pressure.
Maybe tapping on this area could fool the body into thinking the pressure had
increased and would set these wheels in motion.

Of course, it could be a combination of these things or neither.  I just thoughtI'd give it a shot.  But enough of the anatomy lecture! :-)  I have to get
some sleep.  Let me know if you have any other ideas.  

					sroberts@leland.stanford.edu

*****"I'm a doctor, not a moon-shuttle conductor."  -Bones
     "I'm a doctor, not a bricklayer."  -Bones
     "I'm a doctor, not an engineer."   -Bones
     "I'm a rambling first year medical student, not a doctor." -Yours Truly.

I guess I should have a disclaimer here...  None of the views expressed by me 
any time soon, if proven to be incorrect, are grounds for a malpractice suit.
Whew!  That was close.
From: tilden@interceptor.ksu.ksu.edu (Jeffery A Bohning)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Relics (mistakes) No spoilers
Date: 13 Oct 1992 07:51:28 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Oct12.175237.28588@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades) writes:
>crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow) writes:

>>Overall, I thought it was a great episode. (deleted material)

Nuf said.

>>Still, I loved the episode--especially the scene in the holodeck.  I didn't
>>think the old set still existed, but it looked like it was the same one.
>
>    What I wanted to know, was how long did it take them to put it back
>together again? A couple of the shots were obvious blue-screen
>backdrops, and they were very poorly done, but the other scenes
>certainly seemed to be the bridge of the original Enterprise.

I hate to tell you guys this, but that was not the original set.  In an 
interview during the 25th anniversary show (hosted by Marina Sirtis)((SP?)),
William Shattner said something to the effect that the old set had been 
destroyed when TOS went out of production.  The set shown in the holodeck was
probably a refabrication.  Not a bad job though.

Jeff Bohning
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From: ys3359@thor.albany.edu (Yazmasterj)
Subject: Re: Ensign/Cadet Wesley (was Re: O'Brien's Rank [THE FINAL ANSWER])
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 03:39:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.020343.11146@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> franke@eta.fsu.edu (Jerry Franke) writes:
>Actually, Wesley was field promoted to full ensign not long before his 
>departure (and wore red as well).  Unfortunately, I don't remember the
>episode's name.

It was Menage a Troi.

Yasmin

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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: new music....
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:19:23 EST

 -=> On 10-15-92  03:02, James A Grizzard babbled to All saying: <=-

 JAG> am I the *ONLY* one that thinks the new "next weeks eppisode" music
 JAG> SUCKS???? Last season, the music during the NWE was NEAT, and
 JAG> EXCITING... this season, all it is is one note.... and I think it bites
 JAG> the big one.  maybee it's just me.
 JAG> And is it just me, or have the episodes so far this season been boring
 JAG> as hell???

Maybe!  I really think that it's GREAT!  No, it is not one not but
almost one continuous beat.  The cellos do this very well.  Have you
noticed that they intencified the beat for "Realm of Fear" and then made
then mellowed it out for "Man of the People"?  Great effect, mostly
becamse RoF had an exciting plot and the teaser was filled with action.
The old music was too rocky and too fake.  I agree with Berman on this
one -- the old teaser music had too many synthesizers!


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Calling from Markham, Ontario CANADA.  It's not cold though!  :-)
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From: rich@grebyn.com (Richard Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Dyson Sphere (spoilers)
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 03:45:31 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.004233.25150@phx.mcd.mot.com> rolandb@phx.mcd.mot.com (roland blackwell) writes:

>question is, was the inside parameter of the Dyson sphere the living area, or
>were there suppose to be worlds inside the sphere?  If there were no worlds
>inside how does gravity work?

It is assumed that you would have some type of gravity generator,
probably based off of solar power (since you are capturing the entire
output of the sun in any case). 

You can't just spin it, because atmosphere would be gathered at the
poles by the low gravity force there, and you'd get monster storms from
the coriolus (sp, I'm not gonna look it up) effect. 

Larry Niven thought of the best comprimise: mike a giant ring instead,
with big interior walls on the edge that point towards the sun and keep
the atmosphere from spilling out. Then you can spin it and have natural
gravity and atmosphere. This was the basis for his "Ringworld" books,
which are highly entertaining.



-- 
Rich Lawrence, Synoptics Systems Engineer  DOD#9630  rich@grebyn.com
     '92 Seca II "Yuri"  CI$:71101,2272  GEnie:R.LAWRENCE14
   216 years ago my government gave me certain inalienable rights.
     Since then, they've been trying to correct their mistake.
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From: ys3359@thor.albany.edu (Yazmasterj)
Subject: Re: _Best Destiny_ novel: Diane Carey can't write!
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 18:59:49 GMT

In article <1bb204INNfc7@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston) writes:
>  Is this the same Diane who writes novels using Horta crewmembers and
>other unlikely characters?  I always get the Dianes confused.  :)  All I
>can tell you is after half of a novel with the penis-envy characters
>associated with the books which contained this Horta character... well...
>I decided they'd let the fans go too far with their fictionalizing. If
>this is the same person, I'd have to agree that she could NOT write a
>decent shopping list. Utilitarian, perhaps. Decent, no.

The Diane who uses Horta characters is Diane Duane.  The one who wrote
Best Destiny is Diane Carey.  Personally, I have read books by both and
while I like Diane Duane better, I have enjoyed the books by both
authors.  IMHO they stand up there with some of the best Trek authors
like JM Dillard, AC Crispin and PAD.

Yasmin

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From: gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Lynch's Spoiler Review: "Realm of Fear"
Keywords: TNG, Barclay, transporters
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:24:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct12.162414.8277
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <rawdon.718375969@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>Tim Lynch and Mike Shappe, as I understand it, did the first regular TNG
>reviews on r.a.s.  I think that Roger Tang and I came next (I'm not sure
>in what order), though Shabang may have popped up before us.  (My first
>review was of "The Best Of Both Worlds".  I think Roger must have done one
>before me, since I think he did one for "Hollow Pursuits".)

	I recall doing one for MEASURE OF A MAN, fershure....

>(And, I may have some Trek fanfic to post sometime in the near future...
>though as you might guess, it's not TNG. :-)

	Oh, come now!  Look at it as a challenge to your writing skills to
take these characters and make them WORK!

-- 
Roger Tang, gwangung@u.washington.edu
Producer Emeritus, Asian Theatre at the UW
From: ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: --<Man of the People>-- Minor *SPOILERS*
Date: 12 Oct 92 10:12:28 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <92285.213016JENNY@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> JENNY@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Jennifer F. Murphy) writes:

Minor spoiler



>   I wonder if this "empathic connection" he made rendered him impotent.
>   Why else would he have rejected Troi and presumably all the other
>   "recepticles".

Not necessarily.  More than likely, lust is one of the emotions that
he simply channels away from himself...


-- 
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Georgia Institute of Technology  |  the years to come, in your most private
Office of Information Technology |  moments...my hand at your throat.  I want
ccoprdj@prism.gatech.edu         |  you to remember the one man who beat you."
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From: stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini)
Subject: Re: Transporters :Great Plot Device but Bogus "Technology"
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:03:52 GMT

In article <43828@ogicse.ogi.edu> kimf@ogicse.ogi.edu (Kim Flowers) writes:
>I always had the impression that the transporters were supposed to
>convert your body to energy, transmit it through that "subspace" that
>Trek engineers are always so fond of talking about and convert it back
>to its original form at the other end (wherever that may be).

For the first couple of years of STTNG was ambiguous about whether INFORMATION
or SUBSTANCE/ENERGY was being transmitted.  Transmitting information opens a can
of philosphical worms- that means transmitter object such as people could be
replicated; does the source object/person get destroyed when converted to
information?; what happens to the "soul" when the person is temporarily destroyed
or duplicated?; People can't died beacause the transportor can reconstruct them.

Conversion into energy implies non-destruction and conservation of substance,
so these problems don't apply.

However, the food/store replicators and holodecks imply information based
transportors, because the food/store templates are recorder in memory somewhere.
In addition, there were a couple of story plots based upon information based
transportors: (1) where Picard is recovered after beaming into space; (2) Diane
Maulder aging disease is cured by redoing her DNA.

The OFFICIAL STARFLEET TECHNICAL MANUAL has a nifty solution to this problem.
Inanimate objects are replicated at a "molecular resolution" level.  Information
techology can record this resolution.  People are transported at a "quantum
resolution".  Numbers aren't given, but molecular resolution is about an
angstrom, i.e. 10E-10 meters.  Quantum could be as small as Plank's length 10E-33
or at least smaller than a proton 10E-16.  The difference in proton resolution
for a 3-D object is a million-million-million or quintrillion larger memory
requirement and not possible in the 24th century.

The transportor records and manipulated "traces" of people at the molecular
level.  This is sufficient for biological decontamination and security checks,
but insufficient to animate life.
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From: cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows)
Subject: About Scotty's Return...
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
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	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
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Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 06:11:53 GMT


I'm wondering if Scotty's return will tell us exactly what happened
to the OTHER old trek bridge crew.  I can imagine a scene...
 
Scotty: But what happened to McCoy, Spock, and all the others?

Picard or some other character: Spock is on Romulus, working for peace.
McCoy is still alive, though he's about 150; he came aboard this 
starship in the pilot episode.  Kirk/Chekov/Uhura etc. died in...etc.
 
I can hope, anyway...  ;)

--
---Chris Meadows  CHM173S@SMSVMA or CMEADOWS@NYX.CS.DU.EDU
        "Wish in one hand and do something else in the other, then 
          squeeze them both and see which one comes true."
                    ---Corwin, NINE PRINCES IN AMBER by Roger Zelazny
From: crl0195@hertz.njit.edu (Curt R Lindmark)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Elementary, Dear Data Question.
Keywords: How
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:29:52 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1av4ntINN5n8@venture.ksu.ksu.edu> tilden@venture.ksu.ksu.edu (Jeffery A Bohning) writes:
>
>I just saw a re-run of "Elementary, Dear Data" last night and I have a stupid
>question.  Isn't there some way they could use a plot complication like
>downloading Proffessor Morriarity's holodeck program into a android body
>built to his own likeness?  Data could build the body and then just download
>Morriarity into his new form.  Anyone have a justifiable answer why it can't
>be done?

Well, for starters, only Soong had the cybernetic knowhow to create Data and
Lore, and that Soong is now dead, I think it would be very difficult to
create another android body.  Not impossible, mind you, just very difficult.
It generally takes the entire Engineering section to fix something in
Data when it goes haywire.  It would take far more resources to build 
another one.  Data is, after all, one of a kind.

O========|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|========0
 Curt R Lindmark      crl0195@hertz.njit.edu         Defender from ages past

Picard: "Mr. Worf, fire at will."
Worf: "With pleasure, sir." (draws hand phaser, takes aim)
Riker: "Oh no, not again" (ducks for cover)

Disclaimer: NJIT is responsible for nothing I don't say which isn't mine.
From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: TNG Grade Report: "Realm Of Fear"
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:30:32 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <1992Oct9.181330.1305@cbis.ece.drexel.edu> jpw@lorelei.ece.drexel.edu (Joseph Wetstein) writes:
>1. how did Barcley know the worms were people? What evidence was there for
>this?

He didn't know; he guessed.  This was made clear in the episode, I thought.
People were missing from the ship, the experiment that went awry was performed
in the transporter room... it added up, mostly, and he filled in the missing
digits...

>2. Can people actually move while in the process of transport? The computer
>not only has to dissect every cell in their body, but it also has
>to figure out where they will be moving to the next second so that their
>arm doesn't materialize three inches from their body.  

>This seems to be a new concept. Lwaxanna Troi once moved during transport,
>but one could say that she hadn't really dematerialized yet... but to be
>wildly grasping around in the beam??

It's been shown quite a few times before, actually.  In ST2:TWOK people were
shown *talking* in the beam.

-- 
Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

"Go?  Where are we going?"
"Where they went."
"Suppose they went nowhere?"
"Then, this will be your big chance to get away from it all."
			- McCoy and Kirk; Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan
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From: quirk@pioneer.unm.edu (Gym Z. Quirk)
Subject: Re: Da books (was: all this nonsense about the Dianes)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 00:32:51 GMT
Organization: Nit-Pickers for a Better Tomorow Afternoon

In article <910252m.21.719093251@ace.acadiau.ca> 910252m@ace.acadiau.ca (DWAYNE ALLAN MACKINNON) writes:
>    But you know what, I'm curious about something..... am I the only one or 
>are there others out there with a love for How Much for Just The Planet ? 
>This book has to be the funniest Trek book ever created. Just wondering if 
>it has some more fans out there....

I also found the book very amusing and entertaining.  However, the net
is split on it.  Some think it's a wonderful parody/humorous
interlude.  Others consider it a collection of stupid jokes and
references that they don't get.  It's drawn quite a bit of flamage in
the past.


-- 
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 I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to
                          what I have now...
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From: quirk@pioneer.unm.edu (Gym Z. Quirk)
Subject: Re: Da books (was: all this nonsense about the Dianes)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 19:35:59 GMT
Organization: Nit-Pickers for a Better Tomorow Afternoon

In article <1992Oct15.165806.20879@sarah.albany.edu> ys3359@thor.albany.edu (Yazmasterj) writes:
>In article <1992Oct15.033301.5733@leland.Stanford.EDU> firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith) writes:
>>>Just as bad as "Dreadnought!".  It even had the same plot.
>>
>>Umm, gosh .... I really really really liked Dreadnaught and Battlestations and
>>the character of Piper ... gee ...
>
>Really???  You mean I'm not the only one who actually enjoyed those books?
>With all the hostility I didn't even bother trying to mention that I liked
>them.

Heh.  Given that the books in question are essentially 'Lt. Mary Sue'
stories, I must admit that they're pretty decent 'Lt. Mary Sue'
stories. ;-)

-- 
Capt. Gym Z. Quirk  (Known to some as Taki Kogoma)  quirk@pioneer.unm.edu
 I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to
                          what I have now...
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From: demehise@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Derek S Emehiser)
Subject: Re: O'Brien's Rank [THE FINAL ANSWER]
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:48:26 GMT

Much extraneous stuff deleted
>But if O'Brien is a Lt., then why is being DEMOTED FOR DS9?  The uniform Colm
>wore for Realm of Fear is THE SAME ONE HE WEARS FOR DS9(the episodes are being
>shot as we speak).  He will not be a Lt. in DS9, but a lower rank, according t
o
>Paramount, the writers, the costuming dept., and everyone else associated with
>TNG and DS9.
>
>Think about it.

I don't yet know the circumstances of the transfer, but might it include some
sort of demotion. We will just have to wait and find out how they explain it.