HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: v-nguyen@retina.cis.ohio-state.edu (Viet-Anh V Nguyen)
Subject: Re: Worst Famine in Vietnam History
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:49:29 GMT

In article <30g602Fg20Xk01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> vqt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
(Married With Children) wrote:

>Now with all the headlines about the famines in Somalia, Ethiopia; I
>remember about a story that mom told me a long time ago.
>She said that during the worst famine in VN history during 1940s
>(not remember which year), restaurants in North VN would make pho+? with
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>babies because beef was so scare.  I am not sure whether this is accurate
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>especially when it comes from my mom.


   NNNNNN    NNNN     OOOOOOOOOOO
   NNNN NN   NNNN     OOOO   OOOO
   NNNN  NN  NNNN     OOOO   OOOO
   NNNN   NN NNNN     OOOO   OOOO
   NNNN    NNNNNN     OOOO   OOOO
   NNNN     NNNNN     OOOOOOOOOOO , it CAN'T be true! 


>There are few books that talk about
>this and VNmese history book, as I remember, barely mentions about this.
>Can anyone confirm this story/provide more information about this famine ?
>I would also like to know how it began and ended.


I think the mentioned famine happened during the Japanese occupation...

Vietanh Nguyen

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: daudo@bcars201.bnr.ca (Dau Do)
Subject: Re: Ti`m Hie^?u
Reply-To: daudo@bcars201.bnr.ca (Dau Do)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 02:42:04 GMT


In article <1992Aug26.231542.29209@news.media.mit.edu>, trinh@twix.etdesg.TRW.COM (Tien Trinh) writes:
>Xin cha`o ca'c anh chi.
>
>Co' ai bie^'t ta.i sao the sun ra^'t to khi mo.c vao` buo^?i sa'ng va` la.vn va`o buo^?i chie^`u. va` nho? vao` lu'c tru+a???????
>TT

Yeah,

   it's because the sun is farther in the morning and in the evening than in the afternoon.
From: nguyenpd@ntmtv.UUCP (Phat Nguyen)
Subject: [MISC] Xuye^n Ta^m Lie^n
Originator: nguyenpd@nmtvs315
Reply-To: nguyenpd@ntmtv.UUCP (Phat Nguyen)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 01:18:28 GMT



Hi anh Hoa`ng,

Ne^'u Pha't nho?' kho^ng la^`m thi` Xuye^n Ta^m Lie^n la` mo^.t loa.i 
ca^y Thuo^'c Ba('c ma` Vie^.t Co^.ng qua?ng ca'o la` co' the^? chu??a
dduo?.c ba' bi.nh.  Tha^n ca^y Xuye^n Ta^m Lie^n nhi`n ho?i gio^'ng
nhu? ca^y rau que^' ma` mi`nh thu?o?`ng hay a(n Pho??.  Thu?o?`ng
ma^'y o^ng "Communist doctors" du`ng la' dde^? chu??a bi.nh.  Ddo^i
khi ma^'y o^?ng du`ng la' tu?o?i dda('p vao` ve^'t thu?o?ng.  Co`n
ma^'y ba` "Communist pharmacists" thi` pho?i kho^ la' Xuye^n Ta^m
Lie^n xong ro^`i gia? ra tro^.n vo?'i bo^.t khoai mi` la`m thuo^'c.  
Ma^'y vie^n thuo^'c Xuye^n Ta^m Lie^n dden thui` lui` ma` dda('ng 
nghe't a`.  Cha('c kho^ng phai? la` ma^'y vie^n "Aspirin-like" ma` 
anh Hoa`ng uo^'ng dda^u.  Cha('c anh Hoa`ng uo^'ng thuo^'c "aspirine" 
tha^.t, nhu?ng "out of date" do tu.i My~ Ngu.y dde^~ la.i ddo'.  
Nhu?ng ma(.c du` "out of date", cu~ng va^?n co`n an toa`n ho?n la` 
uo^'ng thuo^'c Xuye^n Ta^m Lie^n cu?a ma^'y o^ng Ba'c Si~ Vie^.t Co^.ng 
bao` che^'.  Pha't co`n tha^'y ma^'y o^?ng vo` la' Xuye^n Ta^m Lie^n kho^
tro^.n vo?'i bo^.t khoai mi` vo?'i nu?o?'c ddu?o?`ng la`m tha`nh
ma^'y cu.c thuo^'c te^? tha^'y ma` ghe^.  Nhi`n gio^'ng nhu? mi`n
"Claymore."  Pha't kho^ng bie^'t tai. sao chu?', co' mo^.t tho?i` gian
thie^n ha. o?? Sai`go`n ghe lo?i` xui' ba^.y cu?a Vie^.t Co^.ng tro^`ng
Xuye^n Ta^m Lie^n qua' tro?i`.  Ma^'y bai~ co? xanh dde.p ga^`n khu 
Nha` Tho?` DDu?'c Ba` bi. thie^n ha. cuo^'c le^n tro^`ng Xuye^n Ta^m 
Lie^n he^'t.  


Co`n Xuye^n Ta^m Lie^n co^ng hie^.u kho^ng ha??  Ne^'u co^ng hie^.u
tha^.t thi` ba^y gio?` Vie^.t Nam mi`nh dda~ tha('ng ca? chu.c giai?
Nobel ve^` Medicine ro^i`.  Uo^'ng Xuye^n Ta^m Lie^n vo^, kho^ng
chui vo^ ho`m la` phu?o?'c la('m ro^i`.  Co`n ddo`i chi nu?a?.  Va^.y
ma` ma^'y o^ng Vie^.t Co^.ng che^ tu.i My~ "backward", bi. cancer
ca^`n gi` ma` phai? chu?a? ddu? ca'ch.  Ta cho uo^'ng ma^'y vie^n
Xuye^n Ta^m Lie^n la` bi.nh he^'t ngay.



Nguyen Doan Phat
Northern Telecom
Mountain View
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: htnguyen@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Subject: Re: [NHA.C] Dang Thai Son
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:19:48 GMT

For all who wants information about -Da(.ng Tha'i So*n :
He was born in 1958, Hanoi.  Taught by his mother during the war years
(she was teaching at the Hanoi Conservatory of Music).  Later on he studied
under Professor Kats of Gorki, and Natanson of Moscow.
He won the 10th Chopin Piano Competition in Warsaw (October 1980), the
first Vietnamese to ever win such international event.
The LP that I have was printed in 1981 under the record label Deutsch
Grammophone.  The catalog number is 2531 359 (Should also search under
Chopin-any Sound Warehouse or Classical music dealer will be able to
search for you.)

We move the discussion off-line since we did not think anybody will be
interested in.  But according to -Die^`n Nguyen, DTS is now living in
Canada with his mother.  I also found out from a friend that he gave a
concert in California not too long ago.

Hua^'n Nguyen
htnguyen@sscvx1.ssc.gov

BTW.  Anyone knows about the career path of a young Vietnamese refugee
who came to US about 10 years ago.  He was such a talent at classical
guitar that Segovia took him in as one of the last few (or even last)
pupil.  I haven't heard from him since;  and if my memory serves me
correctly, I think his last name is Truong (???).  I remember Segovia
was quoted as saying "virtuoso/artist like this doesn't come very often."
From: kimchip@acs.bu.edu (Chichi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: alcohol & your cardiovascular health
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:53:07 GMT
Reply-To: kimchip@acs.bu.edu
Organization: N/A
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu



I had recently read an article on SCV about this topic, I thought I
could share with you some of the ideas about alcohol consumption and
your health in general.  Althogh some studies say moderate wine
consumption helps to protect the French from cardiovascular disease.
However, do not start drinking---or increase the amount of intake---
to try for the same effect.   Alcohol even in small amounts has been
linked to breast cancer...liver disease...traffic accidents, etc...
and overall claimed more than 100,000 death/yr in the U.S.  So if
you do drink, please be considerated to yourself and others around you.
If you never drank, then .....Just an idea   I thought I could share
it with you.  I am not writing this article to attack anyone who drinks,
or pointing my finger at any body who wrote about drinking...it is just a
thought..And by no mean it is meant against anyone.  If you feel this
article is inappropriate. Feel free to delete it.

i have information available about this topic, if you require further
reading, feel free to contact me after Sept 24, 1992 via email or write
to the following address.

TuanTu @ UNMCVM.UNMC.EDU-------email

Tuan Tu, Pharm.D. Int.-------------------------office addres, pon
University of Nebraska-Med. Ctr.
COP Box PD-142
Omaha, NE  68198-6000


I hope y'all enjoy the reading and have responsible fun while you are
out drinking or much more fun when you are not drink..................


D.H.C.V.
Seoul, Korea
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: dannyn@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Danny Nguyen)
Subject: Re: Worst Famine in Vietnam History
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin Tx.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:13:56 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.194929.3140@cis.ohio-state.edu> v-nguyen@retina.cis.ohio-state.edu (Viet-Anh V Nguyen) writes:
>In article <30g602Fg20Xk01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> vqt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
>(Married With Children) wrote:
>
>>Now with all the headlines about the famines in Somalia, Ethiopia; I
>>remember about a story that mom told me a long time ago.
>>She said that during the worst famine in VN history during 1940s
>>(not remember which year), restaurants in North VN would make pho+? with
>                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>babies because beef was so scare.  I am not sure whether this is accurate
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>especially when it comes from my mom.
>
>
>   NNNNNN    NNNN     OOOOOOOOOOO
>   NNNN NN   NNNN     OOOO   OOOO
>   NNNN  NN  NNNN     OOOO   OOOO
>   NNNN   NN NNNN     OOOO   OOOO
>   NNNN    NNNNNN     OOOO   OOOO
>   NNNN     NNNNN     OOOOOOOOOOO , it CAN'T be true! 
>
>
>>There are few books that talk about
>>this and VNmese history book, as I remember, barely mentions about this.
>>Can anyone confirm this story/provide more information about this famine ?
>>I would also like to know how it began and ended.
>
>
>I think the mentioned famine happened during the Japanese occupation...
>
>Vietanh Nguyen

I don't remember the year but I think it was the year of the Goat;

na(m A^'t Da^.u.

D. Nguyen

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: anh@media.mit.edu (Viet Anh)
Subject: [MISC] [ADMIN] problem at local scv relay point
Followup-To: anh@media.mit.edu (Viet Anh)
Reply-To: anh@media.mit.edu
Organization: SCV Relay
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:41:50 GMT

Hi,

There has been a glitch at the local machine thus some of the articles
posted via scv@media.mit.edu earlier today hadn't been forwarded
properly.  I will have all of these articles (about 25) re-forwarded
manually.  Otherwise, the relay service is back to normal now.

Enjoy the last drops of summer!

\/\
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: jnle@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (C.N.M.T.)
Subject: Re: Ti`m Hie^?u
Reply-To: jnl@ihlpe.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL USA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:53:49 GMT
Summary: Heh????

In article <1992Aug27.024204.21902@bnr.ca>, daudo@bcars201.bnr.ca (Dau Do) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Aug26.231542.29209@news.media.mit.edu>, trinh@twix.etdesg.TRW.COM (Tien Trinh) writes:
> >Xin cha`o ca'c anh chi.
> >
> >Co' ai bie^'t ta.i sao the sun ra^'t to khi mo.c vao` buo^?i sa'ng va` la.vn va`o buo^?i chie^`u. va` nho? vao` lu'c tru+a???????
> >TT
> 
> Yeah,
> 
>    it's because the sun is farther in the morning and in the evening than in the afternoon.
> 


What???  When the Sun is FURTHER away in the morning and in the evening then
it is BIGGER??  And it is SMALLER when it is CLOSER???  Do you drink too
much coffee this morning???  :-)) ;^)) :-))

Cheers,
----
C.N.M.T.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: quangl@tabasco.sps.mot.com (Quang Le)
Subject: [LIT] Thu'y Kie^`u is available :-)
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: quangl@tabasco.sps.mot.com
Organization: SCV Relay
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 23:45:21 GMT

Netters,

By the helps of some netters, a free copy of Truye^.n Thu'y Kie^`u will be 
available to anyone who would like to have this masterpiece of VN literature.
I currently asked Tin Le to put a copy of Kieu to sonygate archive
and wait for his permission. Temporarily, I can serve by email
as your request. The file is huge (144 KByte). Please make sure that
it won't break your mail system :-). If you want a copy in print but 
you don't have any vn software you also can ask me for a postscript file.

Futhermore, I will ask anh Cuong@haydn to put this file to the diskettes
of Trichlor group software release so it will be available for one who
order those diskettes.

Thank Cu+o+`ng, Hie^.p, Tua^'n, La^m, Tho^ng, Lua^.t, My~ Ngo.c,
and Ngo.c Quy`nh for lending their fast typing hands.:-)

Finally, if you find any typoes in the copy please feedback to me.
I appreciate it very much.

Tha^n,
Quang Le

PS. The copy is Viet-std VIQR compliant, can be printed by vpp, vnpstext
(after conversed by vn7to8), VPS softwares, or displayed by vietterm.
From: zts_duong@hg.uleth.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: [THO] Tho+ cu` ne`o
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:12:18 GMT
Reply-To: zts_duong@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge

NAM MAN chu+`ng ddo' se~ mo+`i


xin co^ ba'c dde^` cao ca?nh gia'c
tru+o+'c a^m mu+u ddo^'n ma.t tha(`ng ngo^
vi` dda^y la` ca? y' ddo^`
dde^? ho`ng moi mo'c tie^`n "ddo^" ddo^`ng ba`o

bo.n chu'ng cha(?ng o^`n a`o dda^'y nhi?
cho chu+o+ng tri`nh du hi' Vie^.t Nam
rie^ng ai tu+o+?ng bo+? ro^`i ham
chu+' em thu' tha^.t no' la`m buo^`n no^n

vi` kho^ng bie^'t lie^.u ho^`n - da.o tru+o+'c
tha(`ng "vi.t kie^`u ye^u nu+o+'c" be^n ta^y
nghe lo+`i xu'i da.i bo.n na`y
ne^n cha con no' vu+o+'ng ngay cu+?a tu`

em tha thie^'t ma^'y "du" ca.n nghi~
ti`nh que^ hu+o+ng no' chi? dde.p khi
kho^ng co`n ddi.a ngu.c, a^m tri`...
.... kho^ng co`n du "ni.ch" la` ddi "u? to+`"

nay chu'ng chi? nha(`m quo+ ngoa.i te^.
ho`ng ki'u nguy kinh te^' sa la^`y
pha^`n thi` tra? no+. quan tha^`y
pha^`n thi` cha('t mo't cho dda^`y tu'i tham

ne^n ca'i dda?ng go.i ... la`m nghi~a vu.
ddo' cha(?ng qua thu? ddoa.n ... xa^m la(ng
ta`u to su'ng lo+'n dda?ng ca^`n
- ddo^ la mi`nh kie^'m kho' kha(n ho+n nhie^`u

va^.y co^ ba'c ddu+`ng lie^`u ma.ng nhe'
ne^'u co' du+ ... ba.c le? ... dde^? da`nh
go+?i ve^` tie^'p su+'c ca'c anh
... hie^.n ddang mai mie^.t dda^'u tranh die^.t thu`

va`i na(m nu+~a ma^y mu` se~ ve'n
bo.n co^.ng no^ che^'t phe'ng ddi ro^`i
NAM MAN chu+`ng ddo' se~ mo+`i
ba` con, co^ ba'c ... ve^` cho+i, muo^.n gi`.

			NAM MAN
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: "TuyetTrang Le" <LTRANG@BLDVM4.VNET.IBM.COM>
Subject: Tho+: Nghi Ngo+`
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: LTRANG@BLDVM4.VNET.IBM.COM
Organization: SCV Relay
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:04:28 GMT

Nghi Ngo+`
----------

Sao nho? ma~i ti`m que^n trong nhung nho+'
Dde^? lo`ng buo^`n nho? de^.t ma^'y va^`n tho+
Vo+'i muo^n nghi`n gio.t le^. sa^`u vu vo+
Nho+' nhung the^' ma` anh va^~n o+ tho+` ...

Dde^m dda~ khuya, dde^m da`i mo^.t gia^'c mo+
Tra'i tim nho?, tra'i tim tha^.t da.i kho+`
Cho no^~i mong cho+` len va`o ho^`n tho+
Tim nga^?n ngo+ ma` anh va^~n hu+~ng ho+` ...

Dda~ bao la^`n nho? no'i ra(`ng nho? nho+'
Anh nghi ngo+` nho? no'i chuye^.n va^?n vo+
Nho? tha^?n tho+` nhu+ ngu+o+`i so^'ng trong mo+
Tim nho? vo+~ nhu+ ddoa' hoa ra.n vo+~ ...

                    o o
                     o

Nho? gia^.n anh, gia^.n ca? trong gia^'c mo+
Gia^.n vu vo+ nhu+ tho+`i nho? mo+'i lo+'n
Nho? mong nho+' ne^n nho? hay do^~i ho+`n
Tha thie^'t the^' ma` anh va^~n nghi ngo+` ...

tt

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From: mtruong@ccs.carleton.ca (Minhtri Truong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Nga`y ta
Date: 1 Sep 92 00:25:11 GMT
Reply-To: mtruong@ccs.carleton.ca
Organization: SCV Relay
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu


          Tha^n cha`o ta^'t ca?,

Tri' ddang ca^`n ddo^?i mo^.t va`i nga`y tu*` du*o*ng sang a^m li.ch.
Tri' kho^ng bie^'t co' ba.n na`o co' li.ch ta, tu*` tha^.p nie^n
70-80.

Ca'm o*n

Tri'
From: JFT%NCCIBM1.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU (** Tua~'n **)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: [TECH] Vietnamese freeware for DOS/Windows release
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:23:00 GMT
Reply-To: JFT%NCCIBM1.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU

Hi Cuong,

  If I have some documents in VN Labs/VNU format is there a
utility to translate these files to VISCII?

  Thanks!

         CANADA
      __________________
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TUAA'N (JOHN) SUTHERLAND  $
SEATTLE, WA               $   JFT%NCCIBM1.BITNET@NCSUVM.CC.NCSU.EDU
(206) 553-1142            $
From: hua@angelo.amd.com (Trung Hua)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: -Do^' Vui
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:14:24 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.

daudo@bcars201.bnr.ca (Dau Do) writes:

>In article <hua.715392457@angelo>, hua@angelo.amd.com (Trung Hua) writes:
[deleted stuff]
>Va^.y cho+' ddo^' ca'c ba.n ... tha(`ng gu` no' ngu? la`m sao ???

U*`, thi` tha(`ng gu` no' ngu? no' nha('m ma('t cho*' sao :-).
A`, cho ho?i la.i nghen, tha(`ng gu` tu*` tre^n no'c nha`
tho*` DDu*'c Ba` te' xuo^'ng CHE^'T, lu'c ddo' no' NGHI? gi` ?

Good Luck !!!!!1
TSN
From: tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com (Nhan Tran)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: NEWS/VN: Singapore opens embassy in Hanoi
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:02:05 GMT
Reply-To: tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com
Organization: SCV Relay
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu


09/02

SINGAPORE OPENS EMBASSY IN HANOI

    SINGAPORE, Sept 2, Reuter - Singapore has opened an embassy in Hanoi
following an agreement with Vietnam last year to establish bilateral diplomatic
relations, state-run Singapore Broadcasting Corp said on Wednesday.
    It quoted the Singapore foreign ministry as saying the embassy, now in
temporary quarters, would move into the former Bulgarian Embassy once
renovations there are completed.
    Singapore and Vietnam agreed to exchange diplomatic missions last November
during a visit here by Vietnamese Prime Minister Vo Van Kiet. Vietnam opened its
embassy here early this year.
    Two-way trade between the two countries stood at Singapore $1.5 billion
(US$943 million) at the end of last year, compared with S$1.3 billion ($818
million) a year earlier, Singapore government trade figures show.
From: hho@aludra.usc.edu (** N.T.K.C.D. ***)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: [TECH] permission denied at sonygate.sony.com ftp site
Date: 4 Sep 1992 09:42:10 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <"4-Sep-9210:49:03".*.Chuyen_L._Tran.DlosLV300@Xerox.com> Chuyen_L._Tran.DlosLV300@xerox.com writes:
>Does anybody know why I got the error message "permission denied" when I tried
>to access the /DOS subdirectory on sonygate.sony.com site? I understand that


VietNet Archive at Sony.com is down for an update.. Please check back sometime :-)
H.

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                           hho@usc.edu      hung@phsys.com      hung@cccogp.com
From: TRANG@pine.circa.ufl.edu (Stewart,T.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Revisted: Vietnamese program on C-Span
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:23:49 GMT
Reply-To: TRANG@pine.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: SCV Relay
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu


Hi,

Did anyone watch the Vietnamese program on C-Span last night?
During the James Webb talk, he mentioned the Viet Nam Co^ng Ho`a 
soldiers.  They are the forgotten soldiers.  They are not considered to 
be a Vietnam veteran by the US nor the VN government.  They can not find
a job in VN. They can not afford to go to the hospital when they are sick.
For those who could get out of VN and resettled here, they are not entitled
to the benefits that the VN veterans get here in the US.

During the open phone conversations, one caller asked if each Vietnamese
family got $25,000 in cash to help them settle in the  US.  I wonder
where he got that information.  Wish everyone of us got it, but I know that
is not true.

What about the Hollywood issue.  I tend to agree with James Webb.  All I 
saw were one side story and most of it seem to favor the Communist.
If you did not live in VN and if you did not have a relative who was a
soldier, and fought in the war, you would think that the former Viet Nam Cong
Hoa` soldiers were coward.  I wish whoever wrote the books or scripts
for the movies would tell 2 sides of the war, or maybe 3 sides.  Right now,
all they talk about were the American side and the Communist side.

Just some of my thought.  Please excuse me if I rambled so much, or if you
don't understan what I write about.  I stayed up until 3:00 A.M. to watch
that show.  Long night and very long day today.

Have a nice and safe weekend.

Trang Le^,
University of Florida
From: Nhan Tran <tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com>
Subject: NEWS/VN: VN air line resume flight to China
Originator: anh@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: Nhan
Organization: SCV Relay
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:02:57 GMT


08/26

BRF--Vietnam-China

Copyright, 1992. The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

   BANGKOK, Thailand (AP) -- Vietnam's state airline has resumed flights to
China after a 13-year suspension, the official Voice of Vietnam radio reported
Wednesday.
   A Vietnam Airlines flight from Hanoi arrived Tuesday in the southern Chinese
city of Guangzhou, formerly known as Canton. The radio station said there will
be monthly flights until October, then two or three flights a week.
   Vietnamese and Chinese leaders agreed to restore transportation and other
contacts during a summit last November. The summit officially ended the open
hostility that started with Vietnam's invasion of Cambodia in late 1978 and its
ouster of the pro-Chinese Khmer Rouge government.
   Earlier this year, China resumed flights from Guangzhou to Vietnam's Ho Chi
Minh City and from Beijing to Hanoi.



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From: trinh@twix.etdesg.TRW.COM (Tien Trinh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Su+. Truye^`n Ba' Cua? -Da.o Pha^t.
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:00:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Sep2.170034.17022
Reply-To: trinh@twix.etdesg.TRW.COM
Organization: SCV Relay
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu

Sau khi Pha^.t Thich Ca nha^.p die^.t, hai vi. -da.i -de^. tu+? cua? Pha^.t la`
nga`i Ca-die^'n va` nga`i A-nan thay Pha^.t hoa(`ng truye^`n Pha^.t pha'po+? 
A^'n -Do^. -do' la` tho+`i ky` thu+' nha^'t, tho+i` ky` thu+' hai do ca'c vi.
To^? su+ Long-tho., Ma~-minh va` Vo^-tru+o+'c la~nh -da.o, tho+` ky` thu+' ba 
do ca'c vi. To^/ su+ Long-tri`, Thie^.n -vo^-u'y va` Lien-hoa-sanh -dam? nhie^.m

Tu+` A^'n -do^., Pha^.t gia'o lan truye^`n vao` ca/c nu+o+'c la^n-ca^.n, ro^`i 
toa`n co~i a' -do^ng, va` cuo^i' cu`ng toa`n ca? the^' gio+i'. Su+. truye^`n ba' nay` -di theo hai hu+o+'ng: mo^.t hu+o+'ng ve^` phu+o+ng Ba('c va` mo^.t 
hu+o+'ng ve^` phu+o+ng Nam.

Ve^` phu+o+ng Ba('c thi` go.i la` Ba('c-phu+o+ng hay Ba('c -tong Pha^.t gia'o,
hay -da.i thu+a` Pha^.t gia'o, go^`m co' nhu+~ng nu+o+'c: Ta^y ta.ng, Trung 
hoa, Mo^ng-co^?, Ma~n-cha^u, Cao-ly, Nha^.t-ba?n va` Vie^.t-nam v.v....

Ve^` phu+o+ng Nam thi` go.i la` Nam phu+o+ng hay Nam to^ng Pha^.t giao', hay
tie^?u thu+a` Pha^.t giao, hay nguye^n thu?y pha^.t giao', go^`m co' nhu+~ng 
nu+o+'c: Ti'ch-lan, Mie^'n-ddie^.n, Tha'i-lan, Ai-lao, Cao-mie^n, Nam du+o+ng
v.v....(ca'c vi. su+ tu theo Nam to^ng Pha^.t gia'o co' the^? a(m ma(.n ne^u'
muo^'n)

Hie^.n nay nho+` su+. giao tho^ng tie^.n lo+.i va` kinh -die^?n -du+o+.c trao
-do^?I kha('p ca/c nu+o+'c, ne^n su+. chia re~ giu+a~ Ba('c va` Nam to^ng
kho^ng co`n -du+o+.c ro~ ra`ng nhu+ tru+o+'c: trong -da.i thu+a` va^~n co'
tie^?u thu+a` va` trong tie^?u thu+a` va^~n co' -da.i thu+a`

(tri'ch trong bo^. Pha^.t ho.c pho^? tho^ng)
TTrinh
From: lpham@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Leslie Pham)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:21:43 GMT
Subject: {SONG} Silent Ways
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