From: chemosh@pain.abyss.com (Kai Allard-Liao)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.correct
Subject: Re: Sexist African Males
Date: 12 Apr 92 22:57:21 GMT
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>Where are you getting your information from ? You are making >statements
about something that you know nothing about !

Ah yes, we're back to this argument again.  How in the name of the Abyss
do you have any idea what he knows and what he doesn't know?  For all you
know he could be an AfricanAmerican Studies Major.  You have about as
much evidence for saying he knows nothing as he does for saying you know
nothing.  Grow up and start using a rational argument, if you can.

> Every African was at risk of being enslaved by the european
> slave traders ! I have relatives and written accounts in my
> family that talk about these kinds of things.

Yeah, well, I have a written account of angels being placed at the four
corners of the Earth, but that doesn't make the angels real, and it
doesn't make the Earth flat, either.

> It just angers me to think that white people just don't want to 
> own up and admit that THEY are responsible for enslaving
> Africans ! NO ONE ELSE. 

Blaming white people as a group for enslaving anyone is like blaming the
Russians for Stalin's purges.  Some of the white people did it (and yes,
my ancestors among them, and yes, I admit it.)  But we're no more
responsible for what they did than today's German people are for the
Holocaust.  So if you want to try to collect reparations from my
great-whatever, be my guest; I'm sure he'd be happy to admit his
responsibility and pay off your ancestors with equanimity, since they've
all been dead for around a hundred years, and money does not, as a rule,
mean a hell of a lot to dead people.

> My comparison about the jews was not from me but from a 
> holocaust survivor ! NO one would blame the jews or say that the 
> jews played a role in the murder of their own people

A clarification here.  In my earlier posting, I disagreed with this
statement and remarked that I'd hang Jewish people who cooperated as
quickly as Nazis.  For the record, this remark was meant neither to imply
that the Jewish people were, as a whole, responsible in any way, shape or
form for the Holocaust, nor that any action should be taken against those
who were forced or coerced into cooperation.  My remark was meant solely
to apply to those who knowingly and willingly assisted the Nazis, and any
offense it may have caused the Jewish people is deeply regretted.  And
no, I haven't heard any complaints, but this is _not_ a good subject to
be unclear on.

> but when it comes to African Americans...well anything goes. 
> Thats bullshit.

Funny, almost exactly my thoughts on reading your postings.  There is a
difference because the Jews, as a people, were, with a few exceptions,
united against the idea and the practice of the Holocaust.  The Africans,
on the other hand, were hardly united against anything, and obviously not
opposed to the idea of slavery, as they sold enough of their own people
into it.  Clear? If you still don't get it, I can go over it again, in
words of less than three syllables.

>The comparison also shows that whites can not prove that  
> Africans enslaved Africans for the slave traders. Tell me where 
> you are getting your information ? Souds like it is from the 
> David Duke book of AmeriKKKan history.

The classic African-American argument.  "No one but Africans can know
anything about African history!!!"   Gee, how can we know anything about
the dinosaurs, since they died out ten million or however-many years ago
and we don't have any of their written accounts preserved? 

>Dowdy Jackson

	- Kai, who has never joined, supported, listened to, read materials
published by, considered becoming affiliated with, or otherwise
encountered the Ku Klux Klan, but is probably going to get himself
declared Imperial Wizard by the people in this newsgroup for posting this
article.
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