HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ahearn@cds2050.cadence.com (John Ahearn)
Subject: Question about Porcelain sink
Organization: Harris Semiconductor
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:51:52 GMT

	Sorry for the confusion on my first posting; in which I asked
questions about the care and feeding of a porcelain sink.  Basically,
what I was looking for was some kind of sealant for the sink.  My feeling
is that over time the original surface has been scratched and is more
porous than the original surface.  I was hoping there is some kind of "liquid
porcelain" that would reseal the sink.

--
John Ahearn 		Cadence Design Systems / SC3-239
ahearn@cadence.com	2475 Augustine Drive
			Santa Clara, CA 95054
			(408)987-5037
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: pjs@euclid.JPL.NASA.GOV (Peter J. Scott)
Subject: Re: Discrimination at Mitsubishi
Reply-To: pjs@euclid.jpl.nasa.gov
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, NASA/Caltech
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:03:24 GMT

Clean up your transcript a bit (some places you have the wrong
speaker named, for instance), and send it in to Consumer Reports.
Won't bring you any compensation, but with a bit of luck they'll
humiliate this scum on a nationwide forum... like USENET, only
glossier :-)

-- 
This is news.  This is your       |    Peter Scott, NASA/JPL/Caltech
brain on news.  Any questions?    |    (pjs@euclid.jpl.nasa.gov)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: SATURN info needed
From: barbon_m@eis.dofasco.ca
Date: 1 Apr 92 18:23:17 GMT
Organization: Dofasco Inc, Hamilton, Ont. Can.
Nntp-Posting-User: barbon_m

In article <9710033@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, cross1@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ed Cross) writes:
> In misc.consumers, jdoyal@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil writes:
>> Has anyone bought an SL-2, and how do you like it?  Also, I understand that the
>> price of Saturn's is not negotiable; however, I heard that the dealer's cost is
>> only about 85% of the retail price.  This seems like quite a mark up for such a
>> small car.  Is it really non-negotiable?
> 
> I purchased a Saturn SC in June of 91. It has been basicly used for my
> wife and I to commute 25 miles each way to work with some running around
> town while there.  We love the SC and our over all mileage is running
> right around 32.3.  The more we drive it the better we like it.  It
> had 24,000 miles on it at the time I changed the oil today.  We are
> very pleased with the dealer and the service that we have received.  The
> lower ratings that CR had for the Saturn had to do with testing of a 91
> model without airbags.  Airbags are now available.

I would change the oil a little more often, or you may not like your
car as much in the future

-- 
Max Barbon
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From: jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,alt.privacy
Subject: Re: capturing caller id data
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:05:32 GMT
Reply-To: jsp@pls.amdahl.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

gilbert@mdd.comm.mot.com (John Gilbert) writes:

}In article <8bYf02a7c0uY00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> jsp@pls.amdahl.com writes:
}>John, don't you ever get tired of beating your head against this same wall?
}>I answered the above question for you the last time this went around.  You
}>didn't really listen to my answer then, and I don't see you really listening
}>now, either.

}Wellll... I think this is a case of you giving an answer to a slightly
}different question than I asked, and then assuming your answer was so
}satisfactory I should just declare you right.

Ah, this then could be the source of our problem.  You see, to me, this
is simply not an issue of "right" or "wrong".  The question is one of
personal preference.  When a person wants something, he can't be "right"
or "wrong" about it, because it's just what he wants.  If what you want
is different from what I want, neither of us can be "right" or "wrong",
we are just different.

All I've ever tried to do on this subject is to tell you that what I want
is different from what you want.  I've never expected you to "declare me
right", I've only asked you to acknowledge that I want something different
than what you want, and that CID might just possibly fill my needs better
than answering machines and/or secret codes.  If you have had the attitude 
that one of us must be "right", then it's no wonder that we just keep going 
round and round.

--James Preston
From: sowellrm@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,rec.autos
Subject: Re: Attempted cheating by Sears Auto
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:59:18 -0600
Distribution: na
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Apr8.172513.10198@csi.jpl.nasa.gov>, eldred@rrunner.jpl.nasa.gov (Dan Eldred) writes:
> In article <23636@scorn.sco.COM> garyh@sco.COM (< Gary H >) writes:
>>>>
> Well, I bought a Sears Diehard for my Rabbit, and after 2 years it 
> started leaking acid on the nearby fuel injection control unit.  I
> got a new battery after paying the pro-rated fee for the 2 years I
> had used it.  I paid as much as many batteries sell for outright in
> many discount stores.  When the replacement Diehard failed after 2
> years I decided I had had enough of premium grade batteries and got
> an el-cheapo at Pep Boys, which has been working just fine for several
> years now.
> 
> I have also had good luck with Delco freedom batteries.

I have a Wal_Mart battery in my car that has lasted four years so far and it 
only cost $39.95.
From: bawags@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Her Heinous)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Big Screen TVs
Date: 17 Apr 92 20:06:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsm.1992Apr17.200659.12903
Distribution: usa
Organization: Arbitrary Telephony & Termination


Hi fellow netters. Let me know if there is a special place for info
like this. What I need is information on big screen TVs.
I'm planning on getting the Consumer Reports rating info but 
thought I'd tap this source also. So anyone listening out there
give me all you got. We're looking at a  Hitachi model, 46 inches,
projection. I think a 35 inch tube is better to watch (for same
price). Can't wait to here from you. Thanks in advance
Bernal
-- 
(bawags@cbnewsm.att.com) |       Life is a fatal sexually 
 AT&T Bell Laboratories  |       transmitted disease.     SCHWING!
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Some people are so full of it ... they grow mushrooms   - John Long
From: mingy@dorrenbacher.ecn.purdue.edu (Minerva Ming-Yee Yeung)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Outrageous telephone rate for local calls..
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:24:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: noose.1992Apr17.192401.16241
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Apr17.053424.840@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> alasnik@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Adam Lasnik) writes:
>In <3642@bacon.MooreNet.COM> jordan@MooreNet.COM (Jordan Hayes) writes:
>
>>Sheila <shiela@goliath.Stanford.EDU> writes:
>
>>	What is a reasonable rate for local phone calls?
>
>>Be glad you don't live in NYC, where there is no such thing as
>>"unlimited local calling" ... all local calls cost $0.104 (with no time
>>limit).
>
>>/jordan
>
>As I lamented in an earlier post, be glad you don't live in Illinois, where
>the local phone charges are literally FIVE TIMES that! (5.2 cents)
>
>--ADAM "KEYS" LASNIK

$0.104 is 10.4 cents.  How can 5.2 cents FIVE TIMES 10.4 cents?

:-)
Minerva
From: kevinc@sequent.com
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Fighting Traffic Ticket
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:07:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Apr8.190735.15293
Organization: .

In article <1992Mar31.172706.7361@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> pkp32110@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the GOD of HELLFIRE) writes:

>2) if you have access to free legal service, plead a non-moving violation
>   in this case the fine is $30+42 in cost ~ 72 and it never gets to 
>   the dmv so no record.  ( no insurance hassals)


    What do you mean by "plead a non-moving violation" ?
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,alt.privacy
From: brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton)
Subject: Re: capturing caller id data
Organization: ClariNet Communications Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 23:25:37 GMT

Such a system sounds good to me, but there is a chicken and egg problem.

You can't start refusing anonymous calls until almost everybody has the
equipment to make non-anonymous calls.

And it eliminates the security aspect of caller-ID, which would be usable
to replace the "callback" feature many dialins use.
-- 
Brad Templeton, ClariNet Communications Corp. -- Sunnyvale, CA 408/296-0366
Xref: sparky misc.consumers:10116 rec.autos:10786
From: bphdarcy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (SJ Roc D'Arcy, MBP)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,rec.autos
Subject: Re: Attempted cheating by Sears Auto
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:54:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr3.155255.9379@b17d.ingr.com>, andy@b17d.ingr.com (Andrew Brezinski) writes...
>Well, then, I guess we can all sue Sears for false advertising then, huh?
> 
>I just saw a commercial on TV last night for Sears Craftsman tools.
> 
>"...1600 hand tools, all American made, and all guaranteed for life..."
> 
>I know I just bought a socket set that's guaranteed for life.  Where have
>you been lately?

Really.  I got a Craftsman drill for x-mas and the second time I used
it, it failed.  Sears gave me one hell of a hassle trying to return it.  I
told my wife not to by from them in the future.  Snap-on may cost more but
they DO stand behind what they sell.

>I will admit that they MAY (repeat MAY) not be making them as durable as they
>used to, but that would be cutting their own throat if they did.  I used
>to work for a tool manufacturer and they took and still take a great deal
>of pride in their reputation.  Quality does still mean something in some
>companies in this country.

Sears is NOT one of them.  They now have moved most of their efforts into
cheap telemarketing ploys (they hassle me all the time).  Sad.  This used
to be one of the best chains in America.

SJRD
Newsgroups: uiuc.consumers,misc.consumers
From: dmmg1176@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (David M Marcovitz)
Subject: FREM Stack 'N Sort--consumer success story
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:47:11 GMT

I want to report a consumer story with a happy ending.

A few months ago, I bought a Stack 'N Sort recycling center made by
FREM Corporation of Worcester, MA.  This is basically three stackable
plastic bins that can be labeled and used to store various kinds of
recyclable materials (or whatever else you want).  It is a very good
product, and I have been very happy with it.

In fact, I have been so happy with it that I wanted to get another one
(they're stackable so I can stack the new one on top of the old one).
In Champaign, I've only seen this product at Target so I went back to
Target and got another one.  Great, right?

No.  The new one I bought was broken.  The lids are made to snap shut,
but these lids wouldn't stay closed.  No problem, I brought it back to
Target to exchange it for another one.  Great, right?

No.  All the ones at Target also were broken.  In fact, I went back to
Target every couple of weeks for a few months to check, and they
always had broken ones.  I told the people at Target about the
problem, but I don't think they did anything about it.  (That
evaluation is based on the fact that every time I went back they still
had broken ones.)

Finally, I wrote a letter to FREM Corporation.  I told them how much I
liked their product, but I couldn't find any that weren't broken.  Two
days ago, I received a new complementary Stack 'N Sort via UPS with a
letter from FREM apologizing for my inconvenience.  Great, right?

YES!  The new Stack 'N Sort works perfectly, and I am very happy.
-- 
David M. Marcovitz                     |  internet: marcovitz@uiuc.edu
Computer-based Education Research Lab  |            dmmg1176@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
University of Illinois                 |  novanet:  marco / cca / nova
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: melissa@spanky.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Melissa Probst)
Subject: Re: ***WARNING: BE CAREFUL WHEN DEALING WITH ALLSTATE INSURANCE!***
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 20:12:41 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.142151.12016@clpd.kodak.com> staffan@serum.kodak.com writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.124702.29165@mlb.semi.harris.com> luoni@bosco.mlb.semi.harris.com (Perry Luoni) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr9.001136.6358@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> kh43543@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ford Prefect) writes:
>>>
>>>****Don't buy Allstate Insurance--- You'll have a hard time getting money
>>>from them when you need it.....****
>
>Goes on to describe how the _other_ company is Allstate.
>
>>>[...]
>>>
>> When I first got my 1983 Pontiac Trans Am I called Allstate about insurance.
>> At the time I was over 25 and married and had no tickets or accidents to my
>> name.  Allstate refused to insure the car at all.  This made it clear to me
>> that Allstate was a seriously fucked up company.  I will never ever even
>> consider using Allstate again since their sole basis for deciding if I was
>> eligible for there wonderful insurance was the car I chose to buy.
>
>Of course it is silly to cut off your nose to spite your face.  Every time
>my insurance comes up for renewal I call around to find the best deal.
>Allstate consistently gets the renewal (31 yrs old, married, two family-
>type cars).
>
>Maybe my insurance is cheaper because they _do_ reject what they consider
>a high risk.
>
>Anyways, I recently had an accident which (like the original poster) was
>clearly not my fault.  The accident was in the morning, and at lunchtime
>I went to an Allstate claims center and they wrote me a check.  I doubt that
>they had collected from the other guy yet, since this claims center visit is
>what determines the amount.  Maybe it's better to have Allstate on _your_
>side, instead of the _other person's_ side (which was the case in the 
>original post).
>
>Ken

I have to agree with Ken.  My husband and I have been with Allstate for
over 10 years. We have had to make 3 claims with them and had absolutely
no problem.  The original poster should have gone through State Farm and let
them deal with Allstate themselves he would have been much better off.


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Melissa Probst
System Administrator
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
4800 Oak Grove 301-250D
Pasadena, CA 91109

email: melissa@spanky.jpl.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: papel@dsuvax.dsu.edu (Louis Pape)
Subject: Re: Thermostats
Organization: Dakota State University, Madison, SD
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:31:27 GMT


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From: lairdkb@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Kyler Laird)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,rec.autos
Subject: Re: Attempted cheating by Sears Auto
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:41:47 GMT
Followup-To: misc.consumers
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

When my third(?) electric screwdriver died, I took it in without
the receipt.  I was hoping they could track it down on my Sears
card.  Instead, a knowledgeable clerk came up and pointed out
that the date of manufacture code was much more recent than one
year before.  I don't know if all Craftsman products have such a
code.  Something to look for...

--kyler
From: nfs1677@dsacg3.dsac.dla.mil (Harold Chodnoff)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Matt's Cookies
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:03:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Defense Logistics Agency Systems Automation Center, Columbus

This may seem trivial but I'm trying to find out where I can purchase Matt's
all natural cookies. Their oatmeal raisen actually list the first two
ingerdients as oats and raisens. None of the super markets around here
(central Ohio) carry them any more. A store or company address would be 
appreciated. If you want to save bandwith, email will be fine. Thanks.
-- 
 Harold Chodnoff  hchodnoff@dsac.dla.mil    osu-cis!dsacg1!hchodnoff
Phone:614-238-9068@Defense Systems Automation Center, Columbus, OH.
	    All views are mine and not those of anyone else.
		      Unless, of course, they are!
Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house
From: mwalker@taimyr (Marilyn Walker)
Subject: Seeking septic system info
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:39:16 GMT

To whomever wrote requesting info on buying a house with a possibly 
bad septic system, your return address did not work:

OK, I can't claim to be a pro, but I have now owned a 95 yr-old house
with well and septic for two years.  We are now in the process of
refinancing, so we have been through two rounds of septic and well
inspections.  In Colorado, real estate laws require the seller to
disclose known problems with the property.  So the first place to start is
therefore with the seller.  Insist that they disclose everything they
know about the septic system.  Has it ever failed?  Does it ever smell
badly?  Where is it in relation to the well (if you have one)?

You didn't say what specifically the inspection suggested was wrong, but
now you need to get all the information that you can.  The county should
have some records on the system.  When it was built, what its capacity is,
etc.

So no, I wouldn't buy a house if there is a clear indication of major
septic problems, but I also wouldn't run away if you like the house.  Our
septic is ancient, and we have to pump it every year, but it has never
failed, never smells, and the cost of pumping is about equivalent to the
cost paid to the county for annual sewer service.  Check everything out
carefully and then make your decision.  Also, be aware that most real
estate inspectors are not septic experts.  An independent inspection by
a septic expert would be much more informative.

Marilyn Walker
mwalker@taimyr.colorado.edu
From: davidbu@loowit.wr.tek.com (David E. Buxton)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house
Subject: Re: Bad, Bad Smoke Alarm... (more info)
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:42:09 GMT
Distribution: usa

> The smoke alarm that was included when we built our house
> is electric.  I suggest going out and also getting a
> battery-operated one.  If there is a fire, chances are
> the electric will go out and then you will really be
> out of luck.

The stats collected by firemen and insurance companies show that by far
the most common way for a smoke detector to fail is dead batteries.  To
have an alarm fail to scream because of failed house power is really
quite rare, if it has ever happened.  By the time the electrical system is
shorting out breakers you are either long ago out of the house or well
cooked.  But of course if you want to be extra sure, have both kinds
installed.

Dave
Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house
From: root@fincomp.raidernet.com (Neal McClain)
Subject: Re: GFI question
Organization: Financial Computers Corp., Murfreesboro, TN
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1992 14:36:01 GMT

ronnie@cisco.com (Ronnie B. Kon) writes:
>Remember that a GFI recepticle protects all recepticles further on the
>circuit as well as itself.

It does?  Are you sure?  Somehow, this doesn't seem right to me.

Anyone care to comment?


Neal McClain               | Beam me up Scottie, there's no intelligent 
Murfreesboro, Tn           | life down here!   
root@fincomp.raidernet.com | uunet!mjbtn!raider!fincomp!root
Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house
From: tan@infonode.ingr.com (Maribel Tan)
Subject: How Can I Stop My Dog from Digging Holes in our yard ?
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Distribution: misc
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:09:58 GMT


Okay, We got this big dog as a gift from a close friend. He was too big
to stay inside the house, he is very nice, but he almost knock me down
from the stair by trying to overtake me. So we put up a fence in the yard
to keep him happy out there without bothering our neighbors. Now he find
a new form of recreation : Digging Holes. We have just tilled and seed our
yard. My husband dragged him to the holes he digged and spanked him on 
his nose. He seems to have a so short-term memory to remember what is 
WRONG. My professor told me that their dog does the same, and it is part
of a dog's job description other than watching the house.

Any suggestion? I have thought of giving him up, but I was afraid of his
ending up in the Humane Society. Afterall, he is NOT a bad dog and he is
defensive of his territory.

Thank you very much.
Maribel
From: hwt@bwdlh490.BNR.CA (Henry Troup)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house
Subject: Re: mice
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:13:17 GMT
Reply-To: Henry.Troup@BNR.CA
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada

In article <14921@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave
Bakken) writes:
|>Try baiting your mousetrap with peanut butter---they really seem

And if that doesn't work, try softening a little chocolate, mixing in
sesame seeds, and letting it harden onto the traps.  Was fatally attractive :^)
             
  Henry Troup - HWT@BNR.CA (Canada) - BNR owns but does not share my opinions
!erutangis ruoy otni suriv erutangis siht ypoc ot nevird ylsuoicsnocbus era uoY
From: sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com (Gantt Edmiston)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house
Subject: FEATURES addition
Keywords: electrical, lights
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:58:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: unx.1992Apr7.195825.4897
Reply-To: sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Originator: sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com
X-Bytes: 2366

I requested and received the "features" listing from house-archive.
It took a while but I read every line.  Lots of good stuff, some of
it is repeated but well worth the time for all those preparing your
plans for building.  I would like to add a section to this list with
one item that *I* have found very helpful.

In my neighborhood, all the folks put a single white light in every
window during the Christmas season.  Since my parents did this when
I was growing up, it was something that I wanted to do as well.  I did
however get *real* tired of plugging and unplugging all those lights
each night.  Even going around to flip a switch was a pain.

In my last house I went around and wired the outlet closest to each 
window on a separate isolated circuit.  In some cases, I ran an additional
wire into the existing box and "broke" the connection link on the duplex
receptacle so that the duplex had one hot outlet and one on my isolated
circuit.  This isolated circuit then feeds back to a central location
(in the coat closet in the hall).  In the back of the closet I mounted
a 10"x20" board with an electric water heater timer.  The timer requires
220vac so I had to wire that in as well.  One half of the 220v (ie. 110)
goes out to half the house and the other half goes to the rest.  Now
all I have to do is plug in the lights right after Thanksgiving and set the
timer.  The lights come on at dusk and go off at 11:00pm.  During the
non-holiday seasons, I remove the hook in the timer that turns the power
off and the "switched" outlets remain hot all the time.  This is *really*
a neat addition that takes the work out of showing seasonal spirit.  When
I go on vacation, I plug some lamps and a radio into this circuit and 
set the timer to go on and off at creative times to "simulate" a lived-in
look.

I have never had the opportunity to wire this idea into a house prior to
the drywall being installed, but you can bet that I will, given the chance.
Sure fools the neighbors too!





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