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From: mlab3@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Another gold for china
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:03:17 GMT
Organization: who cares

Yan wenyi won a gold for china in 50m freestyle. she also broke the world record, zhuangyon won the silver in that event.
congradulation!-- 

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: ldong@hila.hut.fi (Liyun Dong)
Subject: Re: MINORITY RIGHTS IN CHINA
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:29:30 GMT


As far as I know, compared with Han's, minorities can enter universities
with less scores in the National University Entance Examination. They can
also have more than one babies while Han's usually cannot. Minorities
regions receive heavy financial aids from Beijing, while many Han dominated
provinces are heavily taxed by Beijing. 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Xue3 Ran3 de Feng1 Cai3 (Re: No dog .....)
Date: 26 Jul 92 08:52:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92208.045229XXX100
Organization: Penn State University

That famous song is still popular. However who knows how the dead
and alive  heros in the Vienam War really feel about it and how
they feel the new sino-vietnam relationship?

Maybe they never feel nothing. Just "Yes, sir!".

X Xu
Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:21730 rec.sport.olympics:2148
From: prashant+@pitt.edu (Prashanth Cannanbilla)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Proud and Angry
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:36:08 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Jul31.160125.15152@newsgate.sps.mot.com> jennings@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Tim Jennings) writes:
>
>to something and say 'look we've cornered it'. 
>The French researchers who actually
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>first found the HIV virus sent it to the US researcher for confirmation and he
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>took it as his own discovery without verifying it.  To date the French research
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>team has not acknowledged that HIV is a link to AIDS.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>----------------------
>Timothy J. Jennings 			"I Yam What I Yam."
>Motorola ASIC Division			--Popeye
>email: jennings@chdasic.sps.mot.com


Why ?  Are the French Researchers still awaiting the confirmation from the
U.S researcher? :>>>

Could we please stick to Olympics in this group !!

-P.
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Give Me a Break: China to Buy Ford Tempos from U.S.
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:17:52 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Jul29.213221.14941@rigel.econ.uga.edu> jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu writes:
>>have owned a few cars, all of them 4 cylinder.  I think Tempo is a good
>>choice if China have to buy American cars at all.  It surely cost less
>
>Don't know if the Tempo will save you gas, probably will because it stays
>in the shop most of the time, but the Taurus is a junk too except the
>SHO version. But it has a Yamaha engine in it. 

Ok, you tell me which American cars are better buy than Ford Tempo.

Anyway, I said nothing about the deal - not able to judge.
>
>Does the GM landlord still own his house? :-) 

Maybe some falks in Delaware can help, but I have to search my note to
find the address :)

-- 
//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //Enjoy when you can.
From: jluo@pollux.usc.edu (Junhui Luo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Chinese student organization at U. Montana
Date: 29 Jul 1992 14:56:20 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu

From: Weiqi Li <jaet@engin.umich.edu>

HELP!

Need Information about the Chinese Student Organizations at
Montana State University at Boseman.

Anybody has 
information about the CSO at that University, please contact me at 
e-mail jaet@caen.engin.umich.edu, Thank you.

Weiqi Li

University of Michigan, ANN Arbor (313) 936-0865
From: xbf@CELAL.USC.EDU (Bofu Xiong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: To Felix Sebastian Ortony
Date: 30 Jul 92 07:31:50 GMT

In article <fortony.712477195@murphy> fortony@sonne.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
<=>
<=>I'll stand by the "interesting" statement.  The contest in question was
<=>completely dominated by the Chinese diver.  She crushed everyone else
<=>with technically perfect dives, got out of the pool, and did it again.
<=>I don't find it interesting.  Deal with it.

Get a life, Mr. Ortony.  That sweet little girl's dives were sure as hell
more interesting than your endless bitching.  Besides, who cares if you find
something interesting or not?  For all I know, you could be a most wicked
old miserable twit.  Now, don't you find THAT interesting. :-0

You know what?  I've been trying to develop a psychological profile of
you.  I would have completed it by now except for a little piece of
missing data.  But with your help, I'd make you real famous with that
profile in no time.  What I need is basically the way you looked, sounded
and behaved about a month before your 14th birthday.  Trust me, I'm
pretty good at this sort of thing and you won't regret it. :-0

Xiong Bofu
From: vorchez@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Cameron Campbell)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: NBC Commentators talking about China
Date: 26 Jul 92 20:19:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Hi,

As a follow-up to my previous message, if you would like to call NBC and
complain about their introduction of the PRC team, or any other aspect
of NBC's coverage, the number to call is

212-664-4444     

That is the switchboad.  Explain that you would like to make a comment 
or complaint about NBC coverage of the Olympics, and they will transfer
you to another extension where you can leave a message, or if someone is
actually answering the phone, talk to somebody.

Cameron

Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:21685 rec.sport.olympics:2025
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Proud and Angry
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:37:27 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Jul31.071849.25463@athena.mit.edu> solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky) writes:
>As far as why the US has more criminals than China, I think that the answer is
>obvious. In China, you just kill them all. (This time I'm using real facts

If you want to defend the high criminal rate in US, there are other ways...
I am sorry to say that you know little about China.  

-- 
//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //
From: ifcss@WAM.UMD.EDU (IFCSS HQ)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: IFCSS HQ Special Report 4010: House Passed Conditional MFN Bill
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:15:56 GMT


**************************************************************
IFCSS Headquarters Special Report No. 4010:       July 21, 1992
          U.S. House Passed Conditional MFN Bill
**************************************************************
Independent Federation of Chinese Students and Scholars (IFCSS)
   733 15th Street, N.W., Suite 440, Washington, D.C.20005
         Tel. (202)347-0017  Fax: (202)347-0018
                Email: ifcss@wam.umd.edu

  
           U.S. House Passed Conditional MFN Bill
           ======================================

Dear IFCSS Members:

     U.S. House of Representatives passed bill H.R. 5318 
to provide for conditional renewal of China's most-favored-
nation (MFN) status this afternoon. The voting result was
339 yeas and 62 nays.

     Thanks for your attention.

***************************************************************
         IFCSS Headquarters Office    Signature
***************************************************************
From: mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: 'The Spirit of China.'
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:35:38 GMT

EY04@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK writes:

>Now, I am not writing this to argue the rights and wrongs of horse racing;  but
>simply say that if China wants to emulate the West and reform, it should be
>more selective in the things it chooses.

>offers!). I have respect for the Chinese people.So I write this to encourage
>Chinese people to think first, before you: Ttake on boardU ideas from the west.
>China has so much of its own.

>					Regard,  RJS.
>EY04@uk.ac.liv  TThe greatest asset of a country is its people.-RJS 1992.U

Well said ! Surely this article will embarrass many Chinese
netters too. How often we come across  Chinese (not just from
PROC; they can call themselves Taiwanese, Hong Kongers, Singaporeans
etc, but everybody else will regard them as Chinese )
who will just soak up anything from the west, and in doing so 
not only lose their own GOOD culture but also their own identity.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
From: wlin@byron.u.washington.edu (Wei Lin ~{AVgb~})
Subject: [info] table of contents, HXWZ #70
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 20:04:12 GMT

Dear Netters,

	HXWZ is a weekly electronic magazine in the Chinese language
published by China News Digest (CND).

>From: Executive Editor Yalin Zhang <cnd-cm@djohn-sun.kent.edu>

                           Hua Xia Wen Zhai
                        (CND Chinese Magazine)
                              Issue #70
                            July 31, 1992

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   Chinese Coolies Being Trafficed to America ................Lin Jiabao
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4. Journey of Life:  Two Brothers and Half a Sister ........You Qingyuan
5. New Stories in the World:  Quotations from Mr. Y ...........Liu Shahe
6. Classical Jokes:  (5 Items)
7. "We"(Wo3 Men2):  Written on the Day not Missing You ........Zhou Hong
8. Essay in Series:  To leave or to Stay (Part 3 of 3) ......Huo Yunping
9. Between Editor and Reader:
   Ending Statement for HXWZ Readers Survey No.1 ...HXWZ Editorial Board
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From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Give Me a Break: China to Buy Ford Tempos from U.S.
Date: 30 Jul 92 12:53:47 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <9207292106.AA11283@hylas.wustl.edu> zuofeng@hylas.wustl.edu (Zuofeng Li) writes:
>You're not a car guy are you? :-) What do you think about the Ford
>Pinto with a 4 cyl engine? :-) (actually it's pretty cute especially
>a Pinto wagon with paintworks. :-)

As I reminber, Pinto is listed in not-to-buy in consumer report back a
few years ago.  The problem is gas tank design - easy to catch fire.

I used to be a used-car buyer ;-)

>$10,631 a copy. 

That's too high :(

-- 
//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //Enjoy when you can.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: liu9yong@athena.mit.edu ()
Subject: Re: San Mao's books
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 05:38:02 GMT

In article <92211.234527XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu> XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>her best books are  the stories of sahara desert
>and Meng1 Li3 hua1 luo4 zhi1 duo sh3. Others are
>so so, lack of real motion and feelings.
>
>In some senses, her whole live is much more moving
>than her books. Her unique style and characteristics
>are really seldom seen in the world.
>
>X Xu

Most of the female-written novels are self-pitying novels, and three-hair is
no exception.

Look, this majority-of-css-are-male group only discuss Qiong-Yao and San-Mao!
Can we Chinese men have more "manness"? No wonder "western" women don't want
to date us! :-(

Oh, forget to mention that only Lao lix and a couple of other married-with-
wife-and-children talk about Tai-Shi-Gong and Johnny.
From: vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com (Vijay Joglekar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: CFV: alt.us.visas
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:33:07 GMT
Reply-To: vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM (Aix Tools Development)

How about creating a group called alt.us.visas.  By the addition of this 
group we could help folks mostly interested in visa information from any 
country to get that information easily.  A FAQ will also be helpful. 
This will moderate many of the soc groups. 


**********************************************************************
               Vijay Joglekar - arbiter elagantiarum
 Disclaimer: These are my opinions and my opinions only. Has nothing
                      to do with where I work.
            Littera scripta manet: Credo quia absurdum
**********************************************************************
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xiaobiao@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (,,,)
Subject: NBC: No better than People's Daily (was Re: Proud and angry)
Originator: xiaobiao@msc2.msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Distribution: usa,local
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 03:07:19 GMT

From article <1992Jul31.021424.6638@msc.cornell.edu>, by xiaobiao@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (,,,):
>> After reading all these discussion about NBC coverage, I am wondering about
>> Chinese TV coverage. Would any one who watch 88 or 84' Games comment on this?
>> Specifically, how much coverage did Chinese TV give to athelets from other
>> country.
> 
> I remember there was a big front view shown on CCTV of an American female gold 
> medalist with tears dropping down her face when she watched the rising star-
> stripe flag, which made me believe that Americans are strongly patriotic...


They both give us strongly biased, wide-pass-filtered views !!
--
From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
Subject: Re: Proud and Angry
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:32:26 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.032148.10015@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, jqtan@coos.dartmouth.edu (Jianqi Tan) writes:
|> In article <fortony.712455562@murphy> fortony@sonne.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
|> >
|> >Sorry to hear it.  I was being quite serious.  If given a choice between
|> >watching a technically perfect but somewhat boring Chinese diver who's
|> >guaranteed to win and watching an older, flawed but spirited American
|>                                                      ^^^^^^^^^
|> Please, you don't have to offend other people to express an opinion.
|> Just say that you like American divers for whatever reason, that's enough. 
|> >diver, I'm going to make the second choice every time.  At least the
|> >American had expressions on her face.
|> >
|> >I don't know the first thing about Olympic Diving.  I'm not watching
|> >it for the technical angle, I'm watching it for the human, competitive
|> >angle.  The Chinese diver could have been a robot, and nobody would
|> >have noticed.  Period.
|> 
|> Because there is so much cheering toward USA, and because there are a lot
|> of rumors, the Chinese players have to keep cool and ignore a lot of
|> bullshit poured on them.  It feels terrible when you lose, but please,
|> it's not other people's fault.  Aside from the technical angle, I doubt
|> that you have any sense of asthetic appreciation.  It seems that your 
|> only criteria are that they should be American.

I think that what you are missing is that most of the people who were board
with the Chineese diver but were interested in the Americans, also find it
boring to watch the Dream and Dreamette teams win another one by 50 points.

Jason W. Solinsky
Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:21140 soc.culture.hongkong:9290 soc.culture.taiwan:11306
From: rkwst+@pitt.edu (Raymond K. Wong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Olympics opening ceremony
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:58:14 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Jul26.211404.15757@nic.umass.edu> s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Peter Hawkins) writes:
>as seen on tv, the opening ceremony included opera performance by some famous
>singers. what if the event is to be held in china/hongkong/taiwan? do you
>think we will get to see chinese opera?


Opera/Classical singing is International.  Both performers are World renowned
superstars (Jose is actually a better Lyric tenor than Placido or Luciano).  I
doubt that the Chinese opera will have such an Universal appeal.


Ray
-- 
Raymond K. Wong                                 
E-mail: rkwst@unix.cis.pitt.edu, rkwst+@pitt.edu, rkw@icarus.lis.pitt.edu
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,rec.sport.olympics
From: lug@oak.ppc.ubc.ca (Guoqiano Lu)
Subject: Re: Proud and Angry
Organization: University of B.C. Pulp & Paper Centre
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:16:48 GMT


In article <1992Jul30.080833.14280@ccad.uiowa.edu>, bhat@ccad.uiowa.edu (Dinkar N. Bhat) writes:
|> In article <fortony.712476931@murphy> fortony@sonne.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
|> >jqtan@coos.dartmouth.edu (Jianqi Tan) writes:
|> >
|> >>it's not other people's fault.  Aside from the technical angle, I doubt
|> >>that you have any sense of asthetic appreciation.  It seems that your 
|> >>only criteria are that they should be American.
|> >
|> >Nope.  I'm not even an American citizen, and I certainly don't care
|> >if the Americans win or lose every gold in the Olympics.  Please don't
|> >accuse me of errant nationalism or oriental-bashing, and if you have to
|> >try to take it to a personal level like Jianqi did above, please take
|> >it to e-mail.
|> >
|> >I'm personally interested in what other people besides myself and the
|> >very large Chinese anti-me contingent thinks.  :)  Anyone willing to risk
|> >it?
|> >-- 
|> >a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
|> >Felix Sebastian Ortony	fortony@murphy.gis.uiuc.edu
|> 
|> 
|> I certainly did not like your comments about the robot like Chinese divers
|> and the "graceful swan-like" movements of American divers. However Jianqi
|> Tan was equally aggressive and started spewing all types of senseless remarks
|> too. The Chinese divers were very good. But be open Tan, everybody can express
|> his or her opinion !
|> 
|> Dinkar.

Agree. But an offensive statement should be responded.
From: xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo Xiong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Give Me a Break: China to Buy Ford Tempos from U.S.
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:53:20 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

In article <1992Jul30.161451.25809@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu 
(Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>>
>>>$10,631 a copy.  [Ford Tempos]
>>
>>That's too high :(
>
>Not high, if the shipping fee is included.

Boy, have you ever visited a Japanese Car Dealer?  If not, then do
it today, or to save you time, the destination charge for a Japanese
car to be shipped via sea freight from Japan to the U.S.A. is about 
$450 as displayed on the price tag.

Does the destination charge make difference to the deal?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bo Xiong in Chicago
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: China News
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:43:19 GMT

One WORD (not "words') about TanLiangDe's getting silver medal: what?!

In article <1992Jul29.150802.6761@eng.ufl.edu> zzang@whale.stat.ufl.edu (Zhuo Zang) writes:
>
>7/29:
>Last night ABC news, China has signed a contract with the big three 
>auto-makers worth of $130 million for auto parts supplies by the 
>end of this year. I am very glad to hear this news. Our homeland's
>economy looks very strong to be able to do such a big trade with US, 
>and certainly, it will also be benificial to the US.
>Another news I got from the People's Daily, is about a contract with 
>Chevron for providing compressor oil for the airplanes, and this 
>contract will last for many years.
>God bless you, China.

Congratulations!

CMFN bill will have less chance to rob chinese people of "BOWLS" 
this time. What a shame that some "chinese" are even trying to
threat the right that more than 100 countries have here! If MFN
is deprived of, then chinese products will lost all the 
competition they are having in the US market.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: liang@cs.scarolina.edu (Da Dong Liang)
Subject: Re: Time: China has only 60 swimming pools
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:09:56 GMT

lb40+@andrew.cmu.edu (Liping Bu) writes:

>It's not just a qustion of 60 swimming pools. It has more to do with
>journalism itself. Where is the objectivity and professionalism that
>journalists are supposed to have? The article deteriatated from
>reporting truth into a second-rate propaganda.I would suggest that Time
>make formal apology for its mistake. 

Absolutely. But I won't expect it because they did it purposely. If you read
and listen carefully, you will notice this.

From what I have read from Time, and some newspaper, heard from NBC, ABC, CNN,
it's very obvious that they are all in the same tone: defaming and defiguring 
Chinese at every event. No matter how well the athletes did in the competition,
they always find something bad about them. Look at this: Fu Mingxia, under
24 hours supervision, goes home only once a year, trained too early, too young; 
I am tired of this prejudiced nasty propaganda.
From: yz@ee (Yang Zhang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Help wanted: J-1 to H-1 ?
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:25:14 GMT

From article <1992Jul24.101056@disuns2.epfl.ch>, by hua@disuns2.epfl.ch:
> Hi, netters:
> I have two questions regarding to visa types:
> 1) Does anyone know if there is such a thing that J-1 issued by some european countries does not have "two-year limitations" and thus can be changed to any
> other status (F-1, H-1 etc).
> 2) Is it possible to apply H-1 from outside the States(in Europe).
> 
> You experience is appreciated.
> thank you.
> 
> hua@disun20.epfl.ch

Visa type J-1 (or F-1, H-1 ..) is used by the United States. Therefore, it
has nothing to do with any European countries or any other countries in the
world.  Therefore, if the two-year rule applies, it will regardless where it
is issued.

You can apply any H-1 from Europe.
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china