HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: UUCP UUNET using Compuserve Dialup
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:17:08 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

In article <overlord.0cop@megalith.miami.fl.us> overlord@megalith.miami.fl.us (Carlos Amezaga [POSTMASTER]) writes:
>
>	My feed comes from UUNET, and I use the Compuserve lines to
>get my feed from them.  The problem I am having is that I am
>getting some God Awfull CPS rating while connected through
>compuserve.  The CPS Figures vary from 600CPS - 870CPS.  I have my
>UUCICO set for seven wire Handshaking.  I have also locked the port
>at 38,400 Baud.  My computer is able to handle up to 57,600 Baud.
>The connection speed between modem to modem is 9600 Baud.
>

Compuserve feeds their V.32 modems at 9600 bps.  This means the slowest link
in the chain is the one you have no control over - the computer-to-modem
link at Compuserve's end.  Turning on your modem's compression and using
a port speed higher than 9600 won't help.  Compuserve feeds you the data
at 960 cps max, so that's the highest you can get.

I have a Compuserve account, and I regularly download files from their
mainframes in Ohio to my home in California.  I use the Compuserve "B+"
transfer protocol, which was specifically designed to run efficiently
through Compuserve's packet switched network.  My throughputs have always
been only 600-800 cps, sometimes less if Compuserve's network is busy
between Ohio and northern California.  A few nights ago I got the best
throughput I've ever seen:  900 cps.

So, if a protocol designed specifically to run fast on Compuserve's
network only gets around 800 cps on the average, another protocol
that wasn't designed for the network probably won't get any better
speed.  From that, I would conclude that there isn't very much you
can do to increase your throughput through the Compuserve network.

>
>I have set the Window Size to 7 and a Segment size of 512.  Anyone
>out there getting their feed from them in this way? If so are your
>connections at all better than mine?  If so, what Window Size and
>Segment size are you using?
>

Well, you're doing the right thing in selecting a larger packet size.
That will reduce your uucp packetizing overhead to less than 1%, and
fit the uucp packets into the network's packets better.  The CIS B+
protocol uses 1024 byte packets and a window size of 2 in order to
work efficiently through their network.  Uucp transfers should be
almost as efficient by using similar packet/window combinations
(1024x2, 512x4, maybe 256x7).

You may want to re-evaluate which connection method will save you the most
money.  If you can get better throughputs dialing directly to UUNET, you
should compare the cost of a brief long distance call to UUNET vs a longer
local call to Compuserve.


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Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: johnl@microware.com (John Lengeling)
Subject: Where to put dial string delays for International calls
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Des Moines, Iowa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:36:39 GMT

I am having problems completing calls to the U.K.  If I use my TB+ to call the
phone number is fails and if I dial the number by hand it completes.  I am 
not using any delays on the dial string to call the U.K.  I keep
getting some sort of error tone when the modem dials.  Maybe the modem is 
dialing too fast?  Where would I put delays in the dial string?

johnl

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: jeff@raga.zk3.dec.com (Jeff Anuszczyk - Don't blink or you'll miss the future changing)
Subject: Re: Setting up new site with mail/news
Organization: DEC Unix Engineering Group
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 14:57:04 GMT

Sorry about the last posting, I just switched to Tin and apparently I didn't
do something right.  I'm trying this again with rn.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi All,
   I've been monitoring this newsgroup for about two weeks and there doesn't
seem to be any FAQ soooo.. question time.  I'm soon going to be leaving
Digital (by my own choice :-) to work for a small company in Massachusetts
that is not on the Internet.  Needless to say I want to try and put them on
the I-net for at least E-mail and News.  Since I'm quite positive they can't
afford a direct connection I figured I could beg a feed from some kind sole
in the neighborhood (anyone have one in Waltham, MA :-).

   Have'n said that, my problem is the company is almost exclusively PC based. 
I figured I could use something like UUPC to setup a UUCP link with whatever
site ends up feeding me news and mail.  However, I'm a bit uncertain what
happens next.  Is there such a thing as NNTP for the PC to allow viewers on
the individual PC's to access the news on the "main" system.  Also, how will
mail work?  Will they need to login or some such to the mail system or can it
be distributed to the PC's using something like cc:mail?  If it's important
all of the PC's and other stuff (like VAXstation, SCO Unix system) are
connected via ethernet.

   Pointers to any and all information would be greately appreciated.

Thanks,
   - Jeff Anuszczyk
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From:  avsht@sph.spb.su (Alexander Shturm)
Subject: Public access UNIX hosts -- where and how?
Reply-To: avsht@sph.spb.su
Organization: Center SuperPhysica
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 21:05:24 GMT

Hi everybody!

I've heard about existance of public access UNIX hosts in the USA.
Does anyone is able to obtain his own Internet e-mail address?
How to contact them? Is a complete list somewhere?

I am especially interesting in getting the list of public access
UNIX hosts in Israel. Is if only one over there?

Thanks in advance,
/Alex

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: jeff@raga.zk3.dec.com (Jeff Anuszczyk - Don't blink or you'll miss the future changing)
Subject: Re: Setting up new site with mail/news
Organization: DEC Unix Engineering Group
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 17:51:02 GMT

Sigh, please excuse the previous post.  I think I understand why Tin is
posting blank messages.  When posting, it invokes the editor with two files
(the header and the text entered).  Apparently it expects the editor to
concatenate the files and save to the last one entered.  Unfortunately, my
editor just plops them into two buffers that I can editor independently.
It then saves them back into the original files.  Hence, the .article file
just contains the header info which Tin cheerfully posts.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hmmm, I took a look at the IMAP stuff on ftp.cac.washington.edu and realized
that there is currently no PC/MS-DOS version available.  Unfortunately, the
environment will be predominately MS-DOS/Windows 3.x so I'm looking for a
solution for that environment.  As for POP3, I couldn't find any reference to
it on cac so I'm unsure as to what it is.

As for PCNFS, yes, this makes sense.  It seems to me that the current
networking stuff (I think it's Novel or some such) would work just as well
since the real criteria is to be able to mount a remote disk on the current
system.  Then, something like Trumpet could be used to read the news.  How
would posting work?  Does the posting just go into some directory and get
picked up later for processing?  

Sigh, you never realize how little you know about something (and how much you
take for granted) until you make a total environment change.

- Jeff
Xref: sparky comp.mail.uucp:1936 news.answers:3434
From: saman@jessica.stanford.edu (Saman Amarasinghe)
Subject: uubatch
Reply-To: saman@jessica.stanford.edu (Saman Amarasinghe)
Organization: Networking/Communications
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 21:27:28 GMT

I am running a UUPC mail link between Sri Lanka and USA. We are using a
PC (running UUPC) in the US and a unix box in Sri Lanka.  Currently I am
using a prgram called UUBATCH to batch mail. It is giving me a lot of
problems(crashing and nuking mail). Do you know where I can find the
latest version of uubatch? Are there any other  mail batching programs
that I should try?  

Thanks

    Saman Amarasinghe

saman@wildhog.stanford.edu
From: elitman@nxstep.com (Eric A. Litman)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Setting up new site with mail/news
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:21:41 GMT
Organization: U. of Maryland, College Park.

Jeff Anuszczyk - Don't blink or you'll miss the future changing (jeff@raga.zk3.dec.com) wrote:
: I figured I could use something like UUPC to setup a UUCP link with whatever
: site ends up feeding me news and mail.  However, I'm a bit uncertain what
: happens next.  Is there such a thing as NNTP for the PC to allow viewers on
: the individual PC's to access the news on the "main" system.  Also, how will
: mail work?  Will they need to login or some such to the mail system or can it
: be distributed to the PC's using something like cc:mail?  If it's important
: all of the PC's and other stuff (like VAXstation, SCO Unix system) are
: connected via ethernet.

A solution that I often use in situations like yours includes configuring the
mail server to be an IMAP (or POP3) server, and installing IMAP clients
on each of the machines. For news, run PCNFS to export the newsdir so that
news readers like Trumpet can access the local directory. Look on
ftp.cac.washington.edu for the IMAP and POP3 server/client software, and
on wuarchive for the PC newsreaders. PCNFS is available from various places,
both commercial and PD.

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh,gnu.misc.discuss
From: davecb@nexus.yorku.ca (David Collier-Brown)
Subject: Anybody doing quasi-commercial maintenance of MH?
Organization: York University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:54:55 GMT

  I'd like to be able to recommend we contract out maintenance
of a number of pieces of software which we obtain from the
public domain.  This is easy for the Gnu suite, but less so for
programs like MH.
  Anybody know who'd maintaining MH tehse days, and/or who would
be prepared to offer maintenance contracts?

--dave (postmaster @ yorku.ca) c-b


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Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
From: jrh@jrh.uucp (James R. Hamilton)
Subject: Re: ## Question about slocal ##
Organization: private system, Toronto, Ontario
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 03:25:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.183347.14813@aa.cad.slb.com> conniff@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (Steven D. Conniff) writes:
>
>This may be a very simple question but I can't seem to get a simple
>answer.
>
>Does anyone know the syntax of the .maildevlivery file if I 
>wanted to "destroy" incoming mail based off of the "From" and 
>"Subject" files together?   
>
>For example, if I wanted to destroy all mail from "fontana" with
>subject "Important Stuff".
>
>It seems that you can only look at one field.(??)
>
>Thanks.
>
>-- 
>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>Steve Conniff                             conniff@ann-arbor.cad.slb.com
>Applicon Schlumberger                     conniff@aaaca1.sinet.slb.com 
>Ann Arbor, Michigan (USA)                 AAACA1::CONNIFF (SINet)  

    Its true that you can only search for one field at a time using only
    slocal but, with a small script, you can do almost anything.  Assume
    that you want to throw out all mail with subject "JUNK" from root@jrh,
    badName1, or BadName2.  To do this, just add the following line to your 
    .maildelivery file:


        Subject,JUNK,|,A,"/u/jrh/Mail/DestroyFrom $(sender)"

     And put this file in your Mail directory:


        #!/bin/sh
	case "$1" in
    		BadName1 | BadName2 | root@jrh)
		exit 0
		;;
    	*)
		exit 1
	esac

     That'll do it.  The same idea can be extended to look for almost any-
     thing.  

                   --jrh

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From: smith@compound.se (Bjorn Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: Need help configuring MH
Date: 16 Oct 92 08:45:37 GMT
Organization: Compound Systems AB
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Please forgive a trivial question from a MH-beginner.
I have built mh to work in stand alone (not using sendmail or mmfd).

It is running in a single host environment with a modem connection
to a backbone handling all none-local mail.

My question is:

Can one configure it to pass all none local mail such as <name>@<any_addr>
to <my_backbone>!<name>@<any_addr> via uucp ?

Thanks in advance for any kind of help !

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UUCP:	 	{uunet,mcsun}!seunet!comsys!smith
Domain Address:	smith@compound.se
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
From: jrh@jrh.uucp (James R. Hamilton)
Subject: MH 6.7.2 for AIX 3.2
Organization: private system, Toronto, Ontario
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:20:09 GMT

    I run MH 6.7.2 at home under AIX 1.2.1 but haven't yet got it compiled 
    at work under AIX 3.2.  However, I'm growing tired of some of the MH
    6.6 bugs in the standard AIX distribution.  Before I waste anymore time
    I thought I'd check to see who has beaten me to it.  If you have succes-
    sfully compiled MH 6.7.2 on a RS/6k, please let me know what incantations 
    you used.  Thanks very much.  

                        --jrh

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From: conklin@BACH.AUSTIN.IBM.COM (Chris Conklin)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: folder(s) command -no[switch] question
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:42:47 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet



I've made a few changes to uip/folder.c(MH 6.7.2 v2.4) which seem to lie 
somewhere between a design change and a bug fix.  Description follows:

A few of the -no[switch] for the folder command doesn't seem to do what
one might think it should.  For example, "folder +folder -noprint" still
prints information about the folder. If <folder> is different than the current
folder, then I would expect this command to result in changing current
folder to <folder> but don't print anything.  This is useful if one links
say 'cdf' to the folder command with a profile entry like "cdf: -noprint".
Another example is "folder +<folder> -push -nolist" will still list the
current folder and folder-stack information.  Yet another example is
"folder +<folder> -noprint(profile entry - folder: -fast)", or even "folders 
-noheader -nototal" (this can be useful as input to shell script or program), 
or even "folder -pack -noprint".  Admittingly, I don't know why anyone would
attempt to execute something like "folder -all -noheader -noprint -nototal"
and expect to get anything useful out of it, but it would be consistent with
the documentation (my interpretation).

The whole point is to make folder(s) quiet(semi-quiet) in certain situations
(ie, the ability to override the defaults).  The changes that I've made seem 
to accomplish this.  But the question I have is, "Is this a bug in MH?".  
Will this kind of change break anybody (ie, scripts or whatever)?
Any comments?

Thanks,
-Chris Conklin

patch follows:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
note: printsw changed to prntsw because of a problem in my compiler.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
76a77
> static int  usrtotal = 1;
80a82
> static int  prntsw = 1;
98d99
<             printsw = 0,
186a188
> 		    usrtotal = 0;
190c192
< 		    printsw++;
---
> 		    prntsw = 1;
193c195
< 		    printsw = 0;
---
> 		    prntsw = 0;
205a208
> 		    listsw = 1;
209a213
> 		    listsw = 1;
230,231c234,235
<     if (pushsw == 0 && popsw == 0 && listsw == 0)
< 	printsw++;
---
>     if (pushsw || popsw || listsw)
> 	prntsw = 0;
271a276
> 	if (listsw) {
278a284
> 	}
280c286
< 	if (!printsw)
---
> 	if (!prntsw)
286a293
> 	if (fheader != 1)
305c312
< 	if (!fshort) {
---
> 	if (!fshort && usrtotal) {
381c388
<     if (fshort) {
---
>     if (fshort && prntsw) {
412a420,422
> 
>     if (!prntsw)
> 	goto out;
From: poc@shaddam.usb.ve
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: How do I fix up my From: header?
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:11:14 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

This is so obvious a question it has to have been asked before, but
it's not a FAQ and my brain hurts today so here goes:

I want the From: header on messages sent by me to show "poc@usb.ve"
and not (say) "poc@shaddam.usb.ve" as this one does. I already changed
my sendmail.cf so this works for other mailers at my site (ELM, VM,
Mail) but MH is using a direct SMTP connection and it doesn't seem to
pay any attention (yes, I did create the freeze file andrestart
sendmail :-). I'm using SunOS 4.1.2 standard sendmail, with these
options:

version: MH 6.7 #2[UCI] (shaddam) of Thu Oct 24 13:40:34 GMT-0400 1991
options: [BSD42] [BSD43] [DBM] [DPOP] [MHE] [MHRC] [POPSERVICE='"pop3"']
         [RPATHS] [RPOP] [SUN40] [TYPESIG='void'] [UK] [ZONEINFO]
         [SENDMTS] [SMTP] [POP] [BPOP]

Ideas anyone? (Any personal replies to poc@usb.ve please!)

Patrick O'Callaghan			Internet: poc@usb.ve
Departamento de Computacion		UUCP: sun!emsca!usb!poc@sun.com 
Universidad Simon Bolivar 		Tel: +058 (2) 963 3022 ext 3320  
Apartado de Correos 89000		"There is no Net but the Internet
Caracas, Venezuela			 and IP is its Protocol"
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
From: schwartz@roke.cs.psu.edu (Scott Schwartz)
Subject: scan/mh-format
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:17:41 GMT


It's kind of odd that mh-format supports cur as a special function
rather than a general function that tests if the current message is a
member of a given sequence.  In other words, I'd like to be able to
write a scan.format that includes something like
  %4(msg)\
  %<(inseq cur)+%| %>\
  %<(inseq unseen).%|%<{replied}-%|%<{encrypted}E%| %>%>%>\
  ...

Is there some reason that the formatting code avoids reading the
sequence files, or is it just historical?
From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: Re: Bug in slocal?
Date: 12 Oct 92 05:39:03 GMT
Reply-To: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

I got a couple of replies from people about my problems with slocal
(they hang, never delivering mail). The consensus seems to be "slocal
is broken, you're better off with other mail delivery software".

Three different packages were recommended to me - filter (part of
elm), deliver (comp.sources.reviewed volume 1), and procmail
(comp.sources.unix, various volumes. I forget which is the latest).

Of these, I've gone with procmail. filter seemed too elm specific for
my good. deliver and procmail both look fine, so I flipped a coin.

procmail seems a good deal nicer than slocal, btw. And it hasn't lost
a letter of mine yet!

I'd still like to know if anyone knows why slocal breaks. Possible
candidates include:

out of processes (I can verify this one :-)
two letters sent at the same time (deadlock?)
letters not addressed to you, but aliased to you (common trend)

the real problem is that slocal gets in a condition where you have to
kill -9 it.
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
From: disser@engin.umich.edu (David Disser)
Subject: Muliple components in mhl line?
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 10:54:03 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: net


I'd like to set up an mhl.format (or other filter) that will allow me to
put more than one component per line.  Seems the best way would be to keep
mhl from putting a newline at the end of a component line.  Has anyone done
this? 

 I'm sure I could compact my message a little better if I could do
this, or better yet set up a reply filter where I could put "%{from}'s
message about \"%{subject}\"" or equivalent.

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From: schmitz@scd.hp.com (John Schmitz)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: Re: Muliple components in mhl line?
Date: 16 Oct 1992 22:08:23 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Santa Clara Division
Distribution: net
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsceo.scd.hp.com

> >I'd like to set up an mhl.format (or other filter) that will allow me to
> >put more than one component per line.  Seems the best way would be to keep
> >mhl from putting a newline at the end of a component line.  Has anyone done
> >this? 

>     To my knowledge mhl can't do it.

The "split" variable on the man page looks like it would do it - does
anybody have a better explanation of it does if not this?


Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
From: jrh@jrh.uucp (James R. Hamilton)
Subject: Re: Muliple components in mhl line?
Organization: private system, Toronto, Ontario
Distribution: net
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 04:06:47 GMT

In article <DISSER.92Oct7095403@irony.engin.umich.edu> disser@engin.umich.edu (David Disser) writes:
>
>I'd like to set up an mhl.format (or other filter) that will allow me to
>put more than one component per line.  Seems the best way would be to keep
>mhl from putting a newline at the end of a component line.  Has anyone done
>this? 

    To my knowledge mhl can't do it.  The following is inelegant but it
    works as a filter putting two components on a line:
.........................................................................
#!/bin/awk -f-
BEGIN {
   multiple=2;
   found=1;
   inheader=1;
}

inheader==1 && /^To: / {
    printf("%-38s ", substr($0,1,35));
    if ((found++ % multiple) == 0) print "";
}

inheader==1 && /^Date: / {
    printf("%-38s ", substr($0,1,35));
    if ((found++ % multiple) == 0) print "";
}

inheader==1 && /^From: / {
    printf("%-38s ", substr($0,1,35));
    if ((found++ % multiple) == 0) print "";
}

inheader==1 && /^Subject: / {
    printf("%-38s ", substr($0,0,35));
    if ((found++ % multiple) == 0) print "";
}

inheader == 0 {
    print $0;
}

/^$/ {
    print "";
    inheader=0;
}
.........................................................................
>
> I'm sure I could compact my message a little better if I could do
>this, or better yet set up a reply filter where I could put "%{from}'s
>message about \"%{subject}\"" or equivalent.
>
>--
>) Dave Disser                 UM-CAEN User Services    
>) disser@engin.umich.edu      229 Chrysler Center    
>) (313) 763-3067              Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2092


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