HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: andrey@cco.caltech.edu (Andre T. Yew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Port of "GL" for the Amiga?
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Date: 29 Sep 1992 15:53:00 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

simon@ivem.uucp (Simon Lee) writes:

>But the Reality Engine costs $100,000+ alone.  Not to mention paying 10% (?)
>of the cost of an SGI machine a year for a service contract.  With that kind

	At least we get real support, unlike Commodore.  Sorry,
I have an axe to grind with C= over this issue.

>of money, a low end Amiga (4000) with something like a Vivid24 is much more
>feasable than any SGI machine for an individual.  Price/performance is better
>than an SGI in this case.  But I agree, the Amiga/Vivid combo will not be

	Really?  The Vivid 24 is not programmable in any general
sense right now.  If you wanted to take full advantage of
it, you'd have to have something like SGI's GL, or get a
C compiler/assembler for the board.  I'd say the price/
performance ratio is about infinite right now for the DMI
board.

	Besides, you don't need to get a Reality Engine to do
better than a Vivid24 -- a plain 24-bit Indigo will do.  This
discussion is getting out of hand for csa.graphics, so followups
in csa.advocacy, please or by email.

--Andre

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From: khobbs@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Kevin Hobbs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Imagine mailing list...
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:48:41 GMT
Organization: Boeing

In article <9209272305.AA00238@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> pmiller@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Paul Miller) writes:
>Can someone please send me the address to subscribe to the imagine
>mailing list?

Send email asking to be signed up to:

   Imagine-request@email.sp.unisys.com

Kevin  khobbs@halcyon.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: chymes@uri.csmil.umich.edu (Charles Hymes)
Subject: Anybody have the programmers interface docs to AD Pro?
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 11:27:03 EDT
Organization: Cognitive Science and Machine Intelligence Lab, U. of MIichigan


Hello,
I am  working on a machine vision project here at the University of
Michigan. I would like to be able to interface our object and optical
character recognition systems with AD PRO to cut down on interface and
pre-post image processing overhead. But we need to know how to write
one of those processors and install it into AD Pro.

The docs say to contact ASDG, but it's been several months sence I
wrote them and I have not gotton a repy.

Charles Hymes
From: strat@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: WANTED: A NICE 2D-morphing package
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:56:42 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

pk-asdg@cup.portal.com (Perry S Kivolowitz) writes:

>In other words, is it possible that the MorphPlus morph was so clean
>it made the morph ``look easy.''?

Hrm.  It couldn't have had anything to do with Perry's modesty. ;-)

Stratocaster

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: Vince@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Vince Koh Kia Keng)
Subject: Re: Visonia Board
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:25:38 GMT

In article <cg82s85.02jj@instem.uucp> cg82s85@instem.uucp (Chris Golchert) writes:
>Has anyone seen a price on the Visonia board (ad in the latest issue of Amiga 
>World) and what is anyone going to have that can display a 5792 x 5792 picture 
>I NTSC won't, PAL won't and I didn't think HDTV can go uyp that high but they 
>are all supported.

	I just got my Nov. issue of AmigaWorld today and yes, I've seen the
ad on the Visiona graphics board.  It sounds quite impressive, but  since the
ad was short, I could not glean much from it, save the fact that my thoughts
on getting the Opalvision board are being re-evaluated!

	Could someone comment on the relative merits?  I know this may be a
bit early, but I sure hope it's worth the wait.

	BTW, can OpalVision be used in the A4000 too?

-Vince

Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.graphics:6390 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:16073
From: gilgalad@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: CBM Discusses Future Amigas
Date: 27 Sep 92 21:22:37 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor

In article <1992Sep26.045809.21190@eskimo.celestial.com> johnn@eskimo.celestial.com (John Navitsky) writes:
>In article <1992Sep23.094145.21936@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au> dconnors@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (David Connors) writes:
>>johnn@eskimo.celestial.com (John Navitsky) writes:
>>Hmmm, ditching Amiga UNIX and having Amigas running Solaris 2.1 would sure
>>be nice!!
>
>Yes!  Imagine the alternative....  Windows NT.  Yuk.  :-(

This is a religious matter.  Personally, I have experience on Solaris
and I think it is horrendous because it is that SysV thing :>
Both from a programmer and sysadmin standpoint, I like BSD better.
Many of my sysadmin friends won't be doing the upgrade from Solaris
1.0.x (SunOS 4.1.x) to Solaris 2.x (SunOS 5.x) simply because it
is such a complete turnaround.
NT is an obvious nightmare.  It seems obvious to me that Microsoft
is reinventing an immature, inadequate version of the wheel (UNIX that is).
It is sad that the uninformed public is going to gobble NT up as though
it were something new and innovative.  It will be a nice OS for the PC,
but hardly the end all OS.

-Ralph
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: jsaffold@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Saffold)
Subject: Re: 4000:  Is it so great?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 23:23:52 GMT

In article <David_Corn.0dac@fcircus.sat.tx.us> David_Corn@fcircus.sat.tx.
s (David Corn) writes:
>
>Look who's talking David!  On Fido you were so full of bull that NO-ONE
>believed you!  SO don't start talking about facts, until you get YOURS
>straightend out!  To do what was listed above on an IBM would probably
>require a fast 486 to have any resemblance of speed...
>
>----
>
>I take HEAVY offense at your BS, Mr. Saffold, and I'd like you to point
>out ANY inaccuracy that I've EVER posted.
>
>I may not agree with your OPINIONS, but nevertheless, what I say is
>*EXACTLY* correct.
>
>As you (and I!) said, what was listed above would require a very fast
>486 - we're talking $1700-1900 with a monitor and big hard drive.
>
>Any other misinformation you wish to post?
>
>DC
>
>
>-- 
>David_Corn@fcircus.sat.tx.us
>.. david corn ...


Well, maybe we should get Joyce D, John P, and the rest of the Fido group
on here, as the list of your inacuracies is very long.  Heck, most people
from fido don't even listen to you anymore..  First you were on a Mac
rampage, singing its praises left and right, and then jumped to the IBM
world..  I personally wish I had kept some of the many babling postings
that you have made, as I'm sure everyone here on Usenet would like to see
how your "facts" are.  Only time your "facts" are exactly correct is maybe
when you are talking to yourself in a mirror..
From: David_Corn@fcircus.sat.tx.us (David Corn)
Subject: Re: 4000:  Is it so great?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.24d beta (Sep 26 1992)
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:34:47 CDT
Organization: The Flying Circus BBS, San Antonio, TX


Look who's talking David!  On Fido you were so full of bull that NO-ONE
believed you!  SO don't start talking about facts, until you get YOURS
straightend out!  To do what was listed above on an IBM would probably
require a fast 486 to have any resemblance of speed...

----

I take HEAVY offense at your BS, Mr. Saffold, and I'd like you to point
out ANY inaccuracy that I've EVER posted.

I may not agree with your OPINIONS, but nevertheless, what I say is
*EXACTLY* correct.

As you (and I!) said, what was listed above would require a very fast
486 - we're talking $1700-1900 with a monitor and big hard drive.

Any other misinformation you wish to post?

DC


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.. david corn ...
From: pooler@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Robert Peter Poole)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: POV ray tracer
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:29:25 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY


Persistence of Vision (POV) is a good raytracer.  I use it regularly on my
A3000, and for a free raytracing package, its performance is quite nice.
There are two executables with the distribution.  One will run on an ordinary
68000 machine.  The other is compiled for a 68020/030 with 68881/68882
math coprocessor.

I used to use it on my Amiga 500, and it ran OK (but slowly).  It multitasks
fine with other programs.  The output file format is readable by Hamlab
Plus, and it also comes with a utility to convert the images into a regular
HAM iff.  Personally, I like to render at 640x400 and convert the image to
a PCHG IFF file (viewable by Hamlab or Mostra) with Hamlab Plus, at high
res interlace.  Picture comes out in 4096 colors, good quality.  Well, you
can also convert the output to 24-bit IFF if you want and view it with
DCTV or some other 24 bit hardware.  I know the program will make use of
a FireCracker 24 if you have one installed and enable it with the correct
command line option.  There is no intuition interface as such... the
"interface" is the arguments you pass on the command line.  If the image
is 320x200 or 320x400 (or smaller, thumbnail size), you can display the
picture while you trace in HAM mode.

Try using it.  Hey, it's well worth the price.  (i.e., it's free.)

Rob Poole
pooler@rpi.edu
pooler@cs.rpi.edu
From: jagrizza@uncc.edu (James A Grizzard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: AVOID GRAPEVINE!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:14:07 GMT
Reply-To: jagrizza@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte

In article 18634@en.ecn.purdue.edu, rosborn@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan H Osborn) writes:
>
>      Hello fellow Amiga users.  I am posting this as a warning to all who have
>even the slightest urges to do business with Grapevine Group Inc.  I placed an
>order for 2 CIA chips last Tuesday.  Upon ordering I ask if the chips were in
>stock and was informed that they were.  After a week passed I decided to call
>and find out if my chips had shipped yet.  I was told by the operator that the
>chips had not been shipped because they were on backorder, so I cancelled my
>order so that I could get them from a closer business (who will most likely 
>have them to me tomorrow).  I re-ordered the chips from the other business and
>an hour and a half later got a call from Grapevine informing me that my order
>had been shipped yesterday.  I told her what had happened and asked that I not
>have to pay the re-stocking fee.  No such luck.  She goes on to tell me that *I*
>told *her* that the chips were on backorder so I cancelled after they had 
>shipped.  Anyway....To cover up her mistake she accused me of saying something
>I didn't, and then when I denied it, she accused me of telling her a lie.
>	Although I did get the problem cleared up with the manager, I'd suggest
>you find another place for your purchasing needs.

sounds simular to a problem that I was having.. I'd ordered an AdRam card from them
on a tuesday (I think).  after finding out that they had it in stock, I had them send 
it overnight.  after not ariving on wednesday, I decided to wait untill thursday (since
I live in them middle of NOWHERE) before calling.  After calling them back on thursday
and finding that they were backordered, I decided not to cancel (already canceled one
before because of backorder, didn't want to wait again), I called back saturday
and they CONFIRMED that it had shipped that friday, and that it should be ariving
that (saturday) morning.  After calling back monday, they told me that it was still
backordered... AFTER they told me it had shipped!!  I finally got it that thursday,
but I've never have considered ordering from them again...

I've seen multiple posts on this subject, too... I'd HIGHLY reccomend taking your
business elsewhere...
From: tal@plts.uucp (Tom Limoncelli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: List of A4000 compatibilities?
Followup-To: poster
Date: 3 Oct 1992 21:48:18 -0400
Organization: P.L.T.S., North Plainfield, NJ, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: plts.uucp

In article <sr-p4#_@lynx.unm.edu> kholland@hydra.unm.edu (Kiernan Holland) writes:

>I hear that the ATARI Falcon's will be coming with a Motorola DSP
>and VGA graphics, with a hardware port for MPEG image compression...
>This could be hype... But if it is true.. call me an Atari/Amiga 
>owner...

The Motorola DSP?  Eeeeeuuuu!  Gross! :-)

If they are going to include a DSP, why not include the AT&T DSP?  The
software support is much, much better.

Tom

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From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: FLI Anims -> 300 Pic in 3 Megs???
Date: 1 Oct 92 11:24:29 PST
Organization: TAP

Quoted from <4TywRB4w165w@micromed.com> by diskount@micromed.com (don hirschfeld):

> Where does one get RTAP?

    I can give you a BBS number in NZ, or you can try looking for it
    on whatever the usual ftp places are.

> diskount@micromed.com (don hirschfeld)
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From: Cisco@cup.portal.com (Thomas Paul Pike)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Creating Animations using Sculpt-Animate 4D and DCTV
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 18:33:15 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <raymondu.1nn8@terapin.com>

You can also use MakeAnim 1.5, a freely distributable utilitity by
Kieth Doyle, Right Answers Group, Torrance,CA

The updated version will even handle animation frames that have
different color map information, such as those created by VistaPro 2. 0.

Thom Pike

cisco@cup.portal.com
From: gs@TEETOT.ACUSD.EDU (Greg Simon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: DPaint V around Feb 93.
Date: 2 Oct 92 05:04:25 GMT



I'd like to see the following features:

	-An Arexx Port -- thinkof what this could enable!!!

	-more controlled-morphing ( or I'll buy cinemorph :-)

	-Image Processing requester (like the palette) on a seperate
	 screen that would allow things like contrast adjustments, etc.

	-Recognize different file types like ADPro (mentioned in an 
	 earlier article, I know )

	-True 3D interface; IV is not, look at the tools gadgets :-(

	-AUTOMATICALLY adjusts it's color scheme to make tool gadgets
	 readable and 3-D (no program I know does this!! )

	-Some kind of requester that lets you know how long an
	 operation is going to take...I HATE not being informed :-)

Greg

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From: rvmst1@gl.pitt.edu (Rainer V Mager)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Monitors
Date: 30 Sep 92 03:21:59 GMT

Hi,
	I may be needing a new monitor, my current one may be dying, but
which one should I get?

	I definitely want multisync and ideally I want to sync all the
way from 15.6k up to 72k, but I dont want to spend a lot of money (I
know I'm asking a lot).  Anyway, what do you people reccomend?  If I
can't get a monitor to sync all the way up to 72 I was thkning of
getting the generic C=1660, is there something comperable, but cheaper?

		Thanx in advance,
				Rainer

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: kws1x@cyclops.micr.Virginia.EDU (Kenneth W. Smith)
Subject: YAPWI
Summary: Yet Another Problem With Imagine!
Originator: kws1x@cyclops.micr.Virginia.EDU
Keywords: Losing Objects in Ray-Tracing mode...
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:59:40 GMT




	Hello, Fellow-Netters,
	As the title says, I have yet another Imagine question.  Perhaps
someone else has run across this problem.
	When using Imagine 1.1, I find that images occasionally won't render
in ray-tracing mode, but will in the other modes, including scanline.  This
usually occurs when I'm running an object along a path.  The wireframe 
animation in the Stage Editor shows that all is well.  However, as above,
ray-tracing won't produce the object.  Starfields come out fine.  (?)
Lighting sources are not the problem; the object will appear when rendered
in any other mode.  Any help on this is appreciated.  (Note: System
Configuration- A3000/16, KS v.36.209, WB v 36.102, 2 meg Chip, 4 meg Fast.)
	Also, thanx to all those who helped me with my last problem re:
autofacing of IFF files.  The Slice works, but is very frustrating.  If I
hadn't recently put my life in debt for a new house, I would get the 2.0
upgrade as suggested by so many.  Perhaps a "Help All Those Imagine 1.x
Users Upgrade Fund" should be set up!  :)  :)  :)  Seriously, though,
a hundred bucks is alot of money when you are in the midst of buying a
house.......
	Anyway, thanx in advance for any help.


	K.W.Smith,Jr.
	kws1x@cyclops.micr.virginia.edu


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From: cg82s85@instem.uucp (Chris Golchert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Visonia Board
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:54:12 GMT
Organization: The Institution - Chesterfield Twp. MI
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! v0.960

Has anyone seen a price on the Visonia board (ad in the latest issue of Amiga 
World) and what is anyone going to have that can display a 5792 x 5792 picture 
I NTSC won't, PAL won't and I didn't think HDTV can go uyp that high but they 
are all supported.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: kholland@hydra.unm.edu (Kiernan Holland)
Subject: Re: DPaint V around Feb 93.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 17:12:51 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

test
From: amipb@amipb.gna.org (Philippe Berard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: WANTED: A NICE 2D-morphing package
Date: 3 Oct 92 23:00:51 GMT
Organization: IWANIMA
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Sep21.173617.2350@javelin.sim.es.com> dingebre@imp.sim.es.com (David Ingebretsen) writes:
>
> Take a look at Imagemaster, Black Belt; MorphPlus, ASDG; and CineMorph, GVP(?).

    And don't be fooled by those stupid ads that proves morphing with some very
    similar pictures (ex : for Morph+, the background are the same & the eyes are
    at the same position). There are really few pixel interpolations with those
    examples, and they look more like a simple fade than a morph.

                                   -- Philippe

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun)
Subject: Re: IFF24 to PPM
Organization: City University, London
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 11:33:26 GMT

In article <CSHORT.92Sep30171341@aiaia.nmsu.edu> cshort@nmsu.edu (Spmg*d, Lord of Potted Meat Product) writes:
>
>hey, i'm looking for some soft to go from iff24 to ppm/pbm. does any
>exist commercial or otherwise?

Yes, look in Archie for the site (I forget) but there are some
extra directories in the Amiga pbm release containing just that
sort of stuff.

I wonder why ADPro does not support ppm directly.

--
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Vision Group, City University, London, EC1V 0HB. 071-477 8000 x 3889
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: Winfried.Krueger@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Winfried Krueger)
Subject: Re: No de-interlacer in the a4000?
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 07:59:59 GMT

fjrei@kbsaar.saar.de (Franz-Josef Reichert) writes:

>In article <1575@cbmehq.esco.so.commodore.com>, Chris Green writes:

>> 	You really want to get a relatively flexible multisync (one that
>> covers 15khz-31khz). Since promotion is a software solution, it won't
>> de-interlace programs which take over the machine, for instance.

>	Any recommendations? Since my old NEC 3D just died
>(no way to fix it :-( ), I'm in the market to find a new one which
>fits _any_ needs for the A4000. There seems to be no manufacturer
>at all supporting horizontal scan rates down to ~15kHz, are there?	

>> |Chris Green - Graphics Software Engineer   - chrisg@commodore.COM      f

>Franz-Josef Reichert   

Have a look at those cheap-ass low-end no-name multiscan monitors from 
far east: Some of them really will match your needs. Another choice 
as far as it concerns 14' monitors could be the priciest Sony multiscan
(I don't remember the type).

winnie.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.tech
From: cshort@nmsu.edu (Spmg*d, Lord of Potted Meat Product)
Subject: Re: Toaster on A4000????
Organization: Computing Research Lab
	<1992Sep26.225822.19805@news.unomaha.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 07:38:13 GMT

>>>>> On Sat, 26 Sep 1992 22:58:22 GMT, spoon1@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jonathon B. Witherspoon) said:


Jonathon> There is no way at this time for the toaster to work in the A4000

to wit i reply (note same number of hard hitting facts) "There is no
way at this time for the toaster to not work in the A4000."

get the idea?

c.


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From: Mitch_Halpern@qm.sri.com (Mitch Halpern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Aladdin 4D
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:20:02 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Organization: SRI International

I recently received the upgrade offer to Aladdin 4D (aka Draw 4D Pro 2.0)
in the mail, and was wondering whether anyone has actually seen and/or
played with the program yet.  Any opinions?

Mitch Halpern
SRI International
Menlo Park, CA

These opinions are my own. No one else would want them...