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From: geddis@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Don Geddis)
Subject: Re: Clever team names
Reply-To: Geddis@CS.Stanford.Edu
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date:  8 Oct 92 18:45:46 GMT

Around Stanford there was a team for many years named "With Themselves".
This didn't make much sense, until the league or playoff matchups were
listed.  Because of course when teams A and B were to play each other,
there'd be some notice like
	8pm:  A plays B on court 2
Good for a few laughs anyway...

	-- Don
-- 
Don Geddis (Geddis@CS.Stanford.Edu)
To me, clowns aren't funny.  In fact, they're kinda scary.  I've wondered
where this started, and I think it goes back to the time I went to the circus
and a clown killed my dad.
	--  Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey [SNL]
From: wang@sparc12.cs.uiuc.edu (Eric Wang)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Clever team names
Date: 14 Oct 92 02:26:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: sunb10.1992Oct14.022631.16610
Reply-To: wang@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

For a Master's Division team that's lost a step on defense:
  Can't Get It Up Any More

Likewise, a Junior Division boys' team:
  Still Too Young To Get It Up
  (but I dunno how they'd convince their coach :-))

A women's fours team:
  April, May, June, and Julie
  (yes, these really are their first names)

Defensive studs aspire to:
  Flying Carpets
  (they're always between the ball and the floor)

If your hitters constantly hit long:
  Cape Illinois Sub-orbital Launch Group

Weird and wacky:
  Champaign-Urbana Janitorial Services ("We Guarantee to Sweep Any Dust")

------------------------------------------------------------------------
The funniest team uniforms I ever saw were worn by Roadkill, a local
Parks-and-Rec league team here in Champaign.  The back of the shirt
depicts a rabbit standing on a highway with X's for its eyes and a
volleyball flying in from off to the side of the road and bouncing off
the top of its head.  Those shirts were worth two points in the first
game of each match, as the opponents were laughing too hard to
concentrate.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Totally unrelated to vb: apparently, the Zendejas brothers grew up
playing soccer in their home country, but moved to America and went on
to star as placekickers in college, and later, in the NFL.  When the
oldest one first tried out for placekicker as a freshman walk-on in
college, he was given minimal instruction and sent out onto the field,
where he took one look at the H-bar goalposts and promptly started
drilling 30-yarders that invariably came up just a few feet short.
After several minutes, one of the kicking coaches, who'd been evaluating
his (lack of) progress, wandered over and mentioned that he thought
Zendejas was unintentionally holding back on his approach, and asked if
he could get any more power behind his kicks.  Zendejas looked at the
coach in bewilderment and asked, "You want it over zee bar, or under zee
bar?"
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eric Wang
wang@cs.uiuc.edu
From: templin@grayling.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Fred Templin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Adult Vball Camp - San Jose/Sacramento
Date: 8 Oct 1992 16:33:37 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grayling.cs.berkeley.edu

> but I thought I should let people know that there is a boycott
> of ASF events going on by players in the Bay Area.  The man who
> owns and operates ASF, Steve Suttich, has been under fire of late for
> mistreating employees.

Can anyone else share their experiences with ASF and
Steve Suttich - good and bad? I was planning to sign up
for the camp in Concord but would like to get some more
input before doing so after seeing this...

Fred
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From: tony2@mcl.ucsb.edu (Tony Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Team Cup Volleyball
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:02:30 GMT



I've read some discussion about Team Cup and here are my observations...

The first night of Team Cup, there were 18,000 people (that's what the
PA announcer said.... believe it or not). The Forum can hold over 40,000 (I
believe) so that might be why the place looked empty.

As for the rules... normal USVBA rules apply with the following exceptions:

 - You can serve from anywhere behind the service line.
 _ You are allowed to have 1 back row player come up to the net and block but
 they are not allowed to hit.
 - The 3 meter line is moved back to 4 meters.
 - 2 out of 3 games. First 2 games to 30 (rally scoring to 27, then sideout
 scoring, must win by 2). Third game to 11 (rally scoring to 7).



 The play was great and it was nice to see some of the greatest players
 indoors and outdoors play against each other.

 Later,

 Tony

 Santa Barbara YVA Coach
 UCSB Assistant

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From: lochem@fys.ruu.nl (Gert-Jan van Lochem)
Subject: Re: new FIVB rules...
Organization: Physics Department, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 09:44:47 GMT

In <BvqHp4.E3J@cs.columbia.edu> swfc@cs.columbia.edu (Shu-Wie F Chen) writes:

>Just got my latest issue of Volleyball.  They have a small blurb about
>the changes adopted by FIVB and USVBA (college and high schools may
>or may not adopt these changes).  Note that these changes favor the
>defense:

>1. No 17-point cap in the *fifth* game.  Rally point scoring still
>applies.
! Good idea, although nothing can beat the thrill of the ball of Olof van
de Meulen against the Azzuri in Barcelona.!
>2. A *digger* may touch the ball with any part of hir body from the knee
>up.
? What is a DIGGER?
? What good is the part between the knees and the hips for a defence
player (just as well stick to the new rule !) ?
>3. It is not a violation to touch the net if the ball is not being
>played along the net.
? I have to referee a lot of amateur-matches. If those guys  hear you
can jump into the net as long as you are spiking, there is going to be a
lot of blood and twisted ankles around !
(stupid rule, the beauty of volleyball is that you can not touch your
opponent. I'm not in for full-contact volleyball !)

>Cheers,

Play it again, Sam.

Gert-Jan, lochem@fys.ruu.nl

-- 
Gert-Jan van Lochem	     \\		"What is it?"
Fysische informatica	      \\	"Something green"
RijksUniversiteit Utrecht      \\	"Shapes, I need shapes!"
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From: wilder@mik.uky.edu (jeff wilder)
Subject: Re: Clever team names
    <1b41adINNnga@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:35:21 GMT

Our team over the summer was "The PRIME Time Players."

Why?  Well, it has to do with all of us being semi-computer geeks,    
and all of us having met (and coordinated practice and game times,
for that matter) on our university Prime machine...

Aww, never mind.  What a *weak* name! :-)

Jeff

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From: ematias@csri.toronto.edu (Ummm... me!)
Subject: Re: Clever team names
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:15:42 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.192614.7761@software.org> marshall@software.org (Eric Marshall) writes:
>	Howz about:
>
>		Bye
>		Cancelled
>		Disqualified
>		No Show
>		Postponed
>		Rescheduled

   That reminds me of last year's Division I Intramural season.  We had
defaulted out of the league the previous year, so we aptly named ourselves
"The Defaults".  The name was somehow simplified to "Defaults" on the game
listings, and we ended up playing only three games all season because the
other teams thought their opponent had defaulted...  <sigh>  :)

+-----+--------------+---> +--------------------------+ <-------------------+
|     | Mark Rosteck |     | "There are two types of  |  Computers?   Yes!  |
|     +--------------+     | people: those who divide |  Volleyball?  Yes!  |
|   (otherwise known as)   | people into two types,   |  The beach?   Yes!  |
| g1marker@cdf.toronto.edu | and those who don't."    |  School?      NO... |
+--------------------------+                          +---------------------+
From: tomoo@hpmctt.mcm.hp.com (Tomoo Taguchi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Clever team names
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:27:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpmcaa.1992Oct12.202712.19762
Organization: HP Cardiology Business Unit - McMinnville, OR

lapoinml@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
> I personally like our name last year:
> 
> R.I.P.  (Which stood for Really Immense Penises)
> 
> ~ Mike
> 
I take it that yours was not a coed team?

Tomoo
From: tim@research.nj.nec.com (Tim Van Der Avoird)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Clever Names Summary
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:54:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: research.1992Oct12.235436.4201
Organization: NEC Research Institute
Originator: tim@mercury

In article <167@trident.datasys.swri.edu> mark@trident.datasys.swri.edu (Mark D. Collier) writes:
>Thanks to all those who submitted their favorite clever names. Following
>is a list of all (most) of the names I received. I appologize if your
>suggestion was left off. I received so many replies that I have had 
>trouble keeping track of them.

[a zillion names deleted]

So, what's it gonna be, boy?
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From: jely@netxcom.netx.com (James Ely)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Clever team names
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:35:03 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NetExpress Inc., Vienna, VA, USA

In article <1992Oct8.001427.13653@nntpserver.chevron.com> xepama@usbk03.bk5001.chevron.com (Parker Mann) writes:
>In article <164@trident.datasys.swri.edu> mark@trident.datasys.swri.edu (Mark D. Collier) writes:
>>
>>league. We are trying to come up with a clever name for our team (which
>>
>My favorite has always been 'Safe Sets'.
>-- 
>Parker Mann                xepama@usbk03.bk5001.chevron.com
>Chevron Petroleum Technology Company, Bakersfield, CA.

A few years ago, a team I was on was considering 'with ourselves'.


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From: winter@sol.surv.utas.edu.au (Derek Winter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Calling Plays During A Rally
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:13:14 GMT
Organization: CenSIS at University of Tasmania

In article <BvxK4G.L9J@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>, umlehner@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Mike Lehnertz) writes:
> 
>    Some calls that I *don't* know...
> 

> 3 fingers - 3-1
> fist - 3-2
> 2 fists - stack
> crossed fingers - X
> waving your hand away - back slide

																			Any explanations
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: umlehner@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Mike Lehnertz)
Subject: Re: Calling Plays During A Rally
Keywords: team strategy
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 00:02:40 GMT

   At low levels, the setter calls nothing for an offense. He usually
just hopes the pass is there so he can make a left side set or a right
side set. At the next level, the hitters usually call what they fell
most comfortable hitting. The middle hitter may want a 1 or a 2 ball. As
you get higher, the setter calls everything. He runs the show.

   Some calls that *I* know.

1 finger - one ball 
2 fingers - two ball
3 fingers - 3-1
fist - 3-2
2 fists - stack
crossed fingers - X
5 fingers/thumbs up - high outside
4 fingers - back 4
little finger - back one ball
little & ring finger - back two ball
waving your hand away - back slide
A,B,C - 10'


                                          - Drummer -



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From: madera@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Gangster)
Subject: Re: Clever team names
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 19:20:00 GMT

I kinda always liked 
		
		Diggers With Attitudes
					myself...


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From: davec@iplmail.orl.mmc.com (Dave Crowder)
Subject: Western Forum Format
Organization: Martin Marietta
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:03:27 GMT

	I saw a little bit of the Great Western Forum Volleyball tournament
the other night.  The scoring system was explained fairly well but what are
the other rule changes?  It seemed that you could serve from anywhere and 
have as many blockers as wanted.  What exactly are the rules for this tournament?

Thanks Dave.
From: rberlin@Eng.Sun.COM (Rich Berlin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Palm-down hand set
Date: 13 Oct 1992 23:31:59 GMT
Organization: SunPics -- A Sun Microsystems Business
Distribution: world
Reply-To: rberlin@Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: jambalaya

> [Note: this is the set with the palms facing downwards; the
> ball is usually at between chin and belt height, about 1.5
> feet in front of the setter.]

I don't use this set--if I can't use my fingers, I use a normal forearm
bump instead--and I've never seen the technique taught nor have I ever
seen it used except in (social?) beach volleyball.  Although I don't
see why it wouldn't be legal, it may be unorthodox enough that you
won't ever get it by the refs.  (For most of the time I was in high
school, the officials were so strict that school teams never attempted
to finger-set, either; all the setters bumped their sets exclusively.)

I'll be interested to know what you discover about this one.

-- Rich

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From: yoon@meaddata.com (Yoonho Ha)
Subject: Pool Workout  
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:47:31 GMT

Since I had knee surgery, one of things I've been doing for therapy is doing
jumping in the pool to lessen the stress on my knees.  I was wondering if 
anyone can recommend a good training regimen for the pool that will help
build my vertical back, because currently it is almost nil.

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From: davec@iplmail.orl.mmc.com (Dave Crowder)
Subject: Volleyball Tournaments in Florida
Organization: Martin Marietta
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:06:24 GMT

	An Italian poster wishes to play in a 2 man volleyball tournament
in Florida or Alabama in mid November (Nov 14 - 21).  Could anyone please
relay any information on such tournaments to me, at the above email address.
He is also looking for a partner, male or female.

			Thanks in advance,
				Dave Crowder
From: alee@atlas.nafb.trw.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Western Forum Format
Date: 14 Oct 92 10:14:51 PST

davec@iplmail.orl.mmc.com (Dave Crowder) writes:
> 	I saw a little bit of the Great Western Forum Volleyball tournament
> the other night.  The scoring system was explained fairly well but what are
> the other rule changes?  It seemed that you could serve from anywhere and 
> have as many blockers as wanted.  What exactly are the rules for this tourn.
> 
> Thanks Dave.

Dave,
     The rules are 1991 USVBA except for the following:
     1. Each game is rally scoring to 30 points win by 2. However, the first
        team to reach 27 must score by serving (side-out scoring) thereafter.
        The second team changes to side-out scoring following their next point.
        Game 3 is to 11, rally scoring to 7.
     2. After the serve, backcourt players may block but not spike.
     3. The ball may be served from anywhere behind the base line & between 
        the side lines.
     4. The 3 meter line is moved back to 4 meters.

     5.? It seems the setters can get away with some very extended ball
         contact.

Well that's all folks,
                       alex lee
From: xepama@usbk03.bk5001.chevron.com (Parker Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Clever team names
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:14:27 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: chevron

In article <164@trident.datasys.swri.edu> mark@trident.datasys.swri.edu (Mark D. Collier) writes:
>
>league. We are trying to come up with a clever name for our team (which
>
My favorite has always been 'Safe Sets'.
-- 
Parker Mann                xepama@usbk03.bk5001.chevron.com
Chevron Petroleum Technology Company, Bakersfield, CA.
From: Laurent.Wenker@dcal.unine.ch (Laurent Wenker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: New FIVB rules : official text
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:59:31 GMT
Organization: University of Neuchatel, Switzerland

Hi all,

as I see a lot of discussion and rumors about new FIVB rules and as I've
received the exact text from the FIVB, I'll retype some extracts.

There is 11 amendments. Here is the most important ones :

5. Rule 7.2.2
=============
However, in the first four sets, a point limit is reached to 17, i.e. after
a 16-16 tie the team scoring the 17th point wins the set with only one-point
lead. In the deciding set, in the case of a 14-14 tie, the play is continued
until a two-point lead is reached. There is no point limit.

7. Rule 14.4.1
==============
The ball may be touched with any part of the body above and including the
knee.

8. Rule 16.4.1
==============
Contact of the net is a fault only when the action of playing the ball is in
the front zone.

Principles which have been agreed concerning rule 16.4.1

1. "Action of playing the ball" refers to the whole process of playing the
    ball by a player and includes all movements directed to do so. Taking an
    attack hit as an example this would include (the list is not exclusive) :
    - appraoch
    - take-off jump
    - hitting or stinking the ball
    - landing

   The principle also includes :
   - any attempt to play the ball (successful or not)

2. "In the front zone" refers also to the oppenents' front zone and to the
   prolongation of the front zone beyond the side lines.

Touching the net is allowed if :
--------------------------------

a) It doesn't occur during an action of playing the ball at the, regardless
   where the ball is.
b) It is not done intentionaly.


9. Rule 17.6.2
==============
After a service attempt, the referee must authorize the service again, without
delay, and the server must execute it within the next three seconds.

10. Rule 18.1.1 (second paragraph)
===============
During an attack hit, tipping is permitted if the contact is clean and the
ball is not accompanied by the hand.

---
Laurent Wenker, University of Neuchatel,
Switzerland National Referee.
E-Mail : Wenker@dcal.unine.ch
From: hurtje@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Which shoes to buy...please reply
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:20:07 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

Hi, my name is Eric.  This is my very first posting so I hope I get it
right. 

 	I am getting ready to buy my first pair of volleyball shoes
and would like to hear from different people about which shoes they
would get.  I plan to either get the ASICS GEL CRUSHER or MIZUNO COURT
SUPREME.  Which shoe is better.
From: rmp@crashnburn.Eng.Sun.COM (Richard Pottorff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Balls and defense
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:45:21 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: crashnburn

In article <Aeq5yLm00YV7A1tKhz@andrew.cmu.edu> jbab+@andrew.cmu.edu (John F. Borger) writes:
I have two question that I need answered:
    1.  My team is argueing about the defense we should be using this
season. We play a 5-1 and have a decent, but short, block.  Should we
have middle back and power alley diggers with a person fairly short on
the line (setter position) or should we have a line and power alley
diggers line up off the block with a short middle for dinks (no middle
back)?  Any suggestions would be helpful.
    2.  We would also like to order new balls (probably 5V5W). Who would
be the cheapest and most reliable to order through?

                                                Thanks,
                                                        John Borger
                                                        Canegie-Mellon Univ.

/**/

John,

Addressing #1, I'd do a middle back defense, and keep the setter fairly deep,
as the hitters won't be trying to dink over a short block. I'd also have
middle back rotate a bit toward the side the set is on, as well as opposite
back.

I play in classes a lot, and its not rare for me to play left back behind a
short person with a 2"-4" vertical leap.  When that happens, I try to play
fairly deep (if only to give me a little more reaction time when a massive
hit comes my way) and hope the hitter decides to try to dink on me. When
there's a tall blocker in front of me, I cheat up pretty close, to cover
the dink, and hope middle back will be able to get to the balls the hitter
tries to hit over the blocker and me to the back line.

#2) No idea.


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From: raghu666@taj.rice.edu (Raghu K. Madyastha)
Subject: Mail order catalog for shoes
Originator: raghu666@taj.rice.edu
Organization: Rice University, Houston
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:46:08 GMT

Hi all,
Sorry for my previous blank message. I wanted to find out where I can
get my hands on a good mail order catalog so that I can order for some
volleyball shoes. Does anyone have any suggestions as to the company I
should go with or the shoes I should buy? Could I get a good pair for
<= $50.00 ?
Thanks.


-- 
The DEVIL 

raghu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: umlehner@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Mike Lehnertz)
Subject: Re: USVBA rulebook source
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 01:41:54 GMT

   USVBA phone number!

   (719) 637-8300


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