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From: afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: SNL 10/4/92- What did Sinead tear up?
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:26:00 GMT
Organization: Ancient Souls Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1b3spuINN398@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, bab@wpi.WPI.EDU (Brian Alan Baker) writes...
>In article <57hpa2g@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
> 
>>
>>Uh-huh.  And if she tore up a picture of George Bush and yelled "fight the
>>real enemy", you'd no doubt interpret this as an attack on the entire
>>nation of America.
>>
>>--
>>Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
> 
> 
>Nope.  But probably an attack against conservatives.
>And you, no doubt, would be there to defend her no matter how immature
>she acts.  I'd give her credit if instead of alienating a shitload of
>people, she tried to explain her views.


For the most part I have to agree with Brian here... 

Sinead only proved that she is one of the many morons that knows what they 
*don't* like, but offers no rationale or alternative. *Anybody* can run 
around yelling "This sucks !"

-- Stephen

     Though *believing* in things often wounds the spirit, *not* believing 
     in anything will eventually kill it. Therefore, *dream* ... and accept 
     the costs as reasonable.
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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll,alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Asia lineup
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:53:54 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <Bvz1x4.EGt@acsu.buffalo.edu> v071pzp4@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Craig L. Cole) writes:
>I have the Aqua album, which has labelled photos of the (current) members:
> --  Geoff Downes (keyboards, backing vocals) of course
> --  the guy with the big hat is John Payne (lead vocals, bass,
>     and backing vocals )
> --  Al Pitrelli (lead & rhythm guitars) 
> --  Carl Palmer (drums & percussion) I couldn't find anything about
>     Simon Phillips in the jacket. It does, however, state in the
>     credits, that Carl Palmer "appears courtesy Victory records"
> --  Steve Howe (acoustic guitars, mandolin, pedal steel, electric
>     12 string, dobro [what's that?]) He, like Palmer, "appears
>     courtesy of Relativity Records."

I wonder where John Wetton went?  Is he working with the new
King-Crimson or has he just decided to leave Asia for other reasons?
The group is going to be really different without his voice.

BTW, what ever happened to Mandy Meyer?  I liked his work on Astra a
lot. 

Gee, Asia seems to be going the way of Yes with members changing every
album!
-- 
David Charlap         |"there aren't 50,000 things for which it's worth writing
dic5340@hertz.njit.edu| software; and the computer industry doesn't have enough
----------------------+ programmers to create that much good software.
Therefore, most of it must be worthless" -- Boris Beizer "The Frozen Keyboard"
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: uli@kino.intellektik.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Ulrich Grepel)
Subject: Re: Mini Disk vs. DCC checklist - what have I got wrong ?
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:17:03 GMT
Organization: TH Darmstadt

In article <1992Oct9.170444.25045@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, kwright@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Wright) writes:
|> Two questions *I* haven't seen addressed yet WRT MD and DCC formats is:
|> 
|> 	Do either of these formats have digital I/O? You could bypass
|> 	losing quality on each copy by making straight digital copies
|> 	from one machine to the other (ie, MD -> MD, or DCC -> DCC).

You can not make digital copies more than once, same as with (most) DAT players.
To copy MD<->DCC you even have to do two steps in digital: reconstruct as much
as possible from the original signal, then re-reduce with the saving method of
the other system. This way two losses accumulate. If you do that like
'CD->MD->DCC->MD->DCC->MD..., you propably won't have much music left, and that
would be WITH digital copies. :-(. 

|> 
|> 	How many bits and what sampling rate is used in the A/D
|> 	of these machines (before the compression, obviously). 

I don't know for sure, but I think it's the same as on CD (44.1 kHz, 2*16 bit)
Every other value would be even more braindead than the reduction of the sound
data. (DAT have another sampling rate (48 kHz), but they can use 44.1 kHz too,
so that doesn't matter). If the sampling rate/bit number is any other than the
CD values, it has to be less, because it would be better to decrease reduction
rate than to increase resolution.

I don't think the price information on pre-recorded DCCs and MDs is right. Even
if CDs come up to what is supposed, the new mediae will be more expensive. If not
now, sure for later. Remember: Production (complete with packaging) of a CD
is about 3 dollars in small quantities, an empty DCC or MD costs as much as
a nice price CD with music on it. Even if CD prices are going up now, methinks
that MD and DCC prices will follow very quickly.

I wish that the industry would produce pre-recorded DAT tapes, because that
is a far superior system. The only thing against DAT is the price of the machines.
They should come further down someday.

Uli

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From: orion@hardy.u.washington.edu (Ryan Curtis)
Subject: Re: Steve Howe (was Re: Asia lineup)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:23:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.155642.28029@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
>
>Where did you hear that Wakeman was leaving?  I heard that the new
>lineup was going to be 90125 Yes + Wakeman.  You mean that it's back
>to the 90125 band?  What a bummer.
>-- 

Wellit's really not any official word, just some scuttlebutt from someoeone
who stays in contact with knowledgable people.  I wouldn't trust it too far, 
but I think that it must be based on some truth.  I guess we'll see when the 
new album comes out.

-------------------------------------
Ryan Curtis <orion@u.washington.edu>
University of Washington
-------------------------------------



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From: sehamb01@vulcan.spd.louisville.edu (Steve Hamburg)
Subject: Sophie B. Hawkins
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:30:17 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

I was wondering if someone could tell me how her album is.  I have not heard it
and I am considering purchasing it.  Please give me your opinion.  Thanks-

Steve.

sehamb01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu
From: dap@portal.vpharm.com (David A. Pearlman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Shoop shoop diddly wap comma comma wang dang
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:43:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: portal.1992Oct15.014325.17036
Organization: Vertex Pharmaceuticals, Inc.

In article <leo.719070450@galaxy> leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl writes:
>Around 1984 or so there was a song called (to the best of my
>recollection) "Shoop shoop diddley wap comma comma wang dang". A
>novelty-type of song, performed by a group consisting of a male lead
>singer with two or three females on backing vocals.
>
>Anybody know who they were?

That was done by Monte Video, an Australian outfit. They issued one
mini-LP in the US: "Monte Video" Geffen GHSP 4015. (p)(c) 1983.
The album includes both the "club mix" and the regular version of
"Shoop-Shoop, Diddy-Wop, Cumma-Cumma, Wang-Dang."

I vaguely recall that there was some connection between Monte Video
and the big-in-Australia-but-not-here Daddy Cool. But I am not sure...

dap
-- 
=============================================================================
    David A. Pearlman

Vertex Pharmaceuticals Inc.                     email: dap@vpharm.com
From: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Zany band names
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:08:23 GMT
Reply-To: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Distribution: rec.music.misc
Organization: The University Of Edinburgh - Department Of Computer Science

In article <ckamsB1w165w@midiline.la.ca.us> nickn@midiline.la.ca.us (nick nelson) writes:
>
> Spandau Ballet is indeed named after the camp.  It was used after the
> trials to house one prisoner only (I believe it was Rudolf Hesse) til
> his death sometime in the past decade.

You sure? I seem to remember hearing that the "spandau ballet" was some
sort of WWI slang to describe the effect a German heavy machine gun (a
Spandau?) had on you when it hit i.e. when you were riddled with bullets
you did the spandau ballet. Could be wrong though.

--
			Al Crawford - awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk
	  Department Of Computer Science, The University of Edinburgh
   Rm 1410, JCMB, Kings Buildings, Mayfield Rd, EDINBURGH, EH9 3JZ, Scotland
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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Scandal: Patty Smythe
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 20:32:50 GMT


after hearing the recent Patty Smythe/Don Henley collaboration,
which I thought so-so, I was trying to remember the name of
the hit(s) Patty had with Scandal back in the 80's. Any help?

thanks,
Bill
From: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Not Automatic Enough for the "Green" Fans....
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:33:41 GMT
Reply-To: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI

yahnke@macc.wisc.edu (Ross Yahnke) writes:
>OK so I've listened to the new REM CD, AUTOMATIC FOR THE PEOPLE. And it
>is sooo mediocre and sooo completely unmemorable that the only way I can
>reconcile myself to try and glean any kind of enjoyment out of the whole
>experience is to make anagrams out of the title. It's really that bad.

Poor man. Perhaps it will improve with time or your age or you will be
persuaded by its critical reception. In any case, hedge your bets lest
ye seem hasty - you've had a couple of entire *days*....

Still, I've taken pity on you and tried to locate the anagrams in a
manner which is helpful.

Articulate Tempo of Hope [instead of "Aloof Therapeutic Tempo", of course]
Recapitulate Photo of Me
Hop Out, Theoretical Fame

Hope this helps,
Gregory [who sees this as yet another 1992 "front porch" album]
--
I've never had much real control over things. The music of pianos, for example,
is the dead world where I loved the machine of my small freedoms, one of the 
crowd in his best clothes despite the weather, the Eastern snow like the 
distinct sound of pianos over the airfield. The music lifts and swells.
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From: veatch@cs.toronto.edu (Tim Veatch)
Subject: Re: Scandal: Patty Smythe
Reply-To: veatch@cs.toronto.edu
Organization: University of Toronto
Distribution: na
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:48:46 GMT

bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore) writes:

>after hearing the recent Patty Smythe/Don Henley collaboration,
>which I thought so-so, I was trying to remember the name of
>the hit(s) Patty had with Scandal back in the 80's. Any help?

Goodbye To You - From Scandal's debut (EP)
Love's Got a Line on You - from the EP also (not sure)
The Warrior - From Patty's debut LP

I'm not sure if there was another 'hit'.
Patty had another LP that I think didn't do so well.
I think MTV promoted Scandal quite a bit during that time.

Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: hugh@slee06.srl.ford.com (Hugh Fader)
Subject: More Camper Van Beethoven?
Reply-To: hugh@slee01.srl.ford.com
Organization: Ford Motor Company Scientific Research Labs, Dearborn, MI
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:23:21 GMT

I would like to know what became of Camper Van Beethoven. I have two
of their records: ``Key Lime Pie'' and another with the word
``Revolutionary'' in the title. Are there more? What has happened to
this group? If they have disbanded are any of the members recording?

Thanks.

--
Hugh Fader
hugh@slee01.srl.ford.com

Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: angus@well.sf.ca.us (Angus P. MacDonald)
Subject: Re: SNL 10/4/92- What did Sinead tear up?
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 05:55:10 GMT


''If we wanted political commentary, we'd
watch the McNeil-Lehrer News Hour.''

I'd really like to see them tear up a picture of the pope.

Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: IMAGING.CLUB@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Imaging Club")
Subject: New England Conservatory Opera Season Opens to Full House
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:22:56 EST

Boston, MA--October 14, 1992--The New England Conservatory in Boston
opened its opera season last night under the direction of John Moriarity.
The New England Conservatory Opera Theatre performed scenes from Ariadne
Auf Naxos, Mignon, and Summer and Smoke, in addition to a recital
of "Tu, che di gel sei cinta" from Puccini's Turandot, sung by promising
newcomer Jennifer Ayres.

After intermission, she started off with a scene from Bizet's
The Pearl Fishers.  This was followed by Thomas Lehmkuhl's
"audition" performance of "Sois immobile" from Rossini's William Tell.

The NEC Opera Studio then put on an impressive performance of
a scene from Bizet's Carmen with mezzo-soprano Angela Horn in
the role of Carmen.  She followed that up with a recital of
"Amour, viens aider" from Samson and Delilah, both performances
being very enthusiastically received by the standing-room-only
audience.

The evening's event closed with the "Spinning Quartet" scene
from von Flotow's Martha, staged by James Robinson, as were a
number of the earlier scenes.

Mr Moriarity had opened the evening's festivities by indicating that
the NEC opera companies this year have some of the finest performers
they have ever had.  This level of operatic excellence seemed confirmed
by the audience, which regularly called the singers back for third
bows, while two bows have been usual in previous years.

The Opera Theatre and Opera Studio perform every second Tuesday at
the NEC's Brown Hall in Boston, next to Symphony Hall.  The next
performance is scheduled for October 27 with scenes from Arabella,
Hamlet, Die Fledermaus, Mignon, The Pearl Fischers, and Don
Giovanni, starting at 8:00 pm.

Michael.Willett@OFFICE.Wang.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: a70901@uwasa.fi (Mikko Suhonen)
Subject: Re: * Madonna and Sexuallity *
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 09:56:45 GMT

In article <LaaksB2w165w@sys6626.bison.mb.ca> baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (baden) writes:
>
> 
>                I was wondering how many of you got a chance to see the 
>Madonna video thing on friday night.  I personally don't see what all the 
>fuss is about.  If it's labelled as the expression of the art of 
>sexuallity etc. I really don't see why all the fuss.  Granted alot of 
>'youngins' are gonna take a look at the videos and figure... great more 
>of this 'stuff', however thats because they are not yet able to 
>comprehend the meaning behind the video... but I still think it should be 
>aired regularly.
> 
>                        Anyother comments??
> 
>        >>Baden<<

I have seen the "Erotica" video, and I too don't see why there's such a fuss.
On the other hand I'm greatly disappointed of the song itself (a song?). I
think it is the worst peace of music Madonna has done in four years. 
I hope that Madonna's "sexual fantasies" don't overrule her role as a singer
and songwriter, and she still would release such great records as Like a 
Prayer and magnificent I'm Breathless.

<>Mike<>
-- 
Mikko Suhonen
Vaasa, Finland
(a70901@uwasa.fi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Erasure in San Diego?
From: dimshftr@netlink.cts.com (Adam Tow)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 07:05:16 PDT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

Is Erasure planning to perform in San Diego? If anyone knows, please 
e-mail the scheduled dates; thanks...

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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: SNL 10/4/92- What did Sinead tear up?
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:33:58 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Oct13.173616.16730@tse.uucp> don@tse.uucp (Don Marks) writes:
>Selfish?  How so?  The resulting negative publicity will only serve to diminish
>her career even further.  Besides, surely anyone who has knows anything
>about Sinead knows that she is outspoken and volatile.  Sinead was being paid
>to perform.  Political statements just as much a valid part of a performance as
>the music.  Personally, I've found some of the best entertainment to be 
>shocking.  But of course shocking people means making them think.  And people 
>certainly don't want that.  No, just give us a few smiles and chuckles and 
>we'll march happily along in our chains.

Whoa!  Reality check here!  Why does everything we see on television
have to be politically relevant and outwardly repusive?  I get enough
sick stomachs watching the 6:00 news every night.

What's wrong with expecing an entertainer to entertain her crowd
instead of disgust them?  If we wanted political commentary, we'd
watch the McNeil-Lehrer News Hour.

-- 
David Charlap         |"there aren't 50,000 things for which it's worth writing
dic5340@hertz.njit.edu| software; and the computer industry doesn't have enough
----------------------+ programmers to create that much good software.
Therefore, most of it must be worthless" -- Boris Beizer "The Frozen Keyboard"
From: ez006050@chip.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Joan Baez - Play Me Backwards
Date: 10 Oct 92 06:20:29 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis
Originator: ez006050@chip.ucdavis.edu


        The new Joan Baez CD "Play Me Backwards" was released on Tuesday.
It's quite good.  Yes I know it's been a while.  In fact I think that Gracias
a la Vida! (1974) was the last LP I enjoyed all the way through.  The Gold
Castle albums had a few good songs but were spotty and not very coherent.
This album seems like quite a comeback to me.

        About half the album is co-written by Baez, the other half by other
writers.  None of the non-Baez songs are out of place (as was George Michael's
song on her "Speaking of Dreams.")  They were written by Janis Ian, Mary-
Chapin Carpenter, Ron Davies, John Stewart, and John Hiatt.  The Baez
compositions were all co-written with various people including Ron Davies,
Wally Wilson, Kenny Greenberg, Karen O'Conner, and Pat Bunch.  I'm not sure
if it's her or the Co-writers but the Baez compositions are most of the high
points of the CD.  Especially nice are Play Me Backwards, Isaac and Abraham
(based on the melody of "House Carpenter"), and The Dream Song.

	The performances are some of the loosest and more natural sounding
of Baez's career.  Her time with the Indigo Girls seemed to leave a mark in
the performance of John Hiatt's Through Your Hand.  Sounds very Sailers-like
to me.  The music is good, mostly acoustic.  The production value is also
unusually high for a Baez album.  This is her first for Virgin Records and 
it seems like a good omen for her.

	If you like Baez this album is a must.  Easily the best since the mid-
sixties.  Even if you're not a big Baez fan I think this is an album you will
listen to again and again if folk-country pop is your cup of tea....

	Highly recommended.

						Wade Greiner
From: chrisl@sancho.sybase.com (Xian the Drive)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: DOG POLICE?
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:26:06 GMT

In article <Oct.11.02.16.32.1992.196@pilot.njin.net>, gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky) writes:
|> 
|> about 8 years ago, there was a group called dog police which almost
|>  won the mtv basement tapes competition.
|> 
|> the song was also called dog police.
|> 
|> does anyone have a copy of this video, or the audio of it?
|> 
|> thanks - bob gaj


Hoo boy, I remember this one!

I absolutely loved it, and couldn't get it out of my head.

Any info appreciated! [post]

+------------+ "This woman                    literally
|    xian    |      Felt she                had a hook in her head."
| ----<--<@  |
+------------+	                  -throwing muses
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 11:57:30 EDT
From: Morris Weinstock <MAW14@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Anyone know what the members of ABBA are up to?
 <1992Oct7.161446.17934@cs.ucla.edu> <BvroA5.785@encore.com>
 <1992Oct8.193732.17433@newross.Princeton.EDU>

I heard that the four members are suing their former manager/partner
Stig Anderson.  I have no idea what the details are or if that is
still going on.

Morris
From: kalang@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (kenneth.lang)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Roger Dean covers
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:42:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsk.1992Oct14.134214.8247
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Oct13.174844.4510@rose.com> lorne.murphy@rose.com (lorne murphy) writes:
>And yes, Jeff Miller, you are very correct about the ABWH cover. If
>I had to put them all in order, I would say:
>

<List deleted.>
>
>Is that all? I think I'm forgetting one somewhere...maybe not..
>

Dean also did a cover for a band called Osibisa which had a picture of flying
red elephants. I've only seen the album once, but it has been shown in those
album art books. I'd love to find a print of this.



-- 
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
**    Ken Lang                                              AT&T          *
*"The dust blows forward and the dust blows back on the toads of the      *
* short forest and every newt in Idaho."- A sampling of Don Van Vliet & FZ*
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: u9039899@cs.uow.edu.au (Darrin Jon Smart)
Subject: Re: Hoodoo Guru's New Album.
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 06:51:21 GMT

stuart@gcnext.gac.peachnet.edu (S. Stuart Smith) writes:

> Sorry about that -- long day at work. 
> What I wanted to ask was
> does anybody know anything about the new Hoodoo Gurus album?  I saw where
> it was up in the top 5 down-under and wanted to know if it would ever make
> it over here to the states.  Also if you know any tour dates for here (if
> any) I would be very happy to have them.
>					Thanks,
>					Stuart.

It is a compilation of singles, called 'Electric Soup'. If you are quick
you might still be able to get the limited edition release that also
includes 'Gorilla Biscuit' which has 20 'b-sides and rarities'. All up there
is about 150 minutes and 39 songs on the double CD. I saw 'Electric Soup' in
a shop today on it's own.

I suppose if you're a fan and have all their albums it would be pretty
boring. I don't have any other Gurus material so I found it excellent value.

I have been told they are planning an Australian tour - I have no idea if it
will get overseas (are they very big over there?).

 - Darrin

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From: crgoc@orlando.uk.cray.com (Gary O'Connor)
Subject: Re: Help: Song Title + Artist wanted!
Organization: Cray Research (UK) Ltd
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:12:59 GMT
X-Posted-From: orlando.uk.cray.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

track is by Dillinger

and is called Cocaine in my brain

on the album of the same name there is also a track called marijuana in my brain.
-- 

 Gary O'Connor (crgoc@uk.cray.com) :)-8