From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: IIsi vs new Macs - should I wait?
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:19:49 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

dave@prc.unisys.com (David Lee Matuszek) writes:

>Yes, I use System 7 every day.  I have since it came out.  My posting
>was in response to someone who thought that System 7 is Better In
>Every Way.  I simply pointed out that:
> System 7 is
>    - bigger,
>    - slower,
>    - more complex.

    Well, your response was to a post of mine, and that is not what I
was saying at all. The point of my post was that I didn't feel there
were any disadvantages to using System 7.


>Do you want to argue with "bigger"?  Check your "About this Macintosh"
>Apple menu item.  Or just count your installation disks.

    I have no problem with bigger, in either disk space or memory space
since the average minimum for both have been increased by apple
originally to 2/40, then to 4/40 and now to 4/80.

>Do you want to argue with "slower"?  I have both a 16MHz LC running
>System 6.0.8 with Finder, and a 20MHz IIsi running System 7.0/TuneUp
>7.1.1.  The LC is clearly the faster of the two.  Do you do such a
>side-by-side comparison every day?

    Are you running exactly the same applications on both macs with
exactly the same configurations? Are you accounting for the fact that
the LC has dedicated VRAM so if you do the tests in anything other than
1bit mode it is lopsided. Switch both of them to b/w and then do the
side by side comaprison using the standard system for any macintosh
setting from the two systems. You might be surprised at the result.

>Do you want to argue with "more complex"?  It enforces the MultiFinder
>paradigm.  

    This is a GOOD thing, IMHO because switching easily between
applications is one of the things that the Mac is known for.

>Finder menus have more things in them.

    Um... yeah. This makes sense since the Finder can flat out do more.

>Changing file names is much tricker.

    This is also a good thing, since under System 6 it was too easy to
scratch a file name. All you had to do was accidentally hit the keyboard
at the wrong time. At least now, you have to want to change the name of
the file to change it.

>It has aliases.

    I hope you aren't using this as a negative feature of System 7 since
it is probably in the top 5 of most useful System improvements.

>Typing into a modal dialog behaves differently if there is a selection
>list present.

    Yes it does, but at least it behaves the same in all applications
 and instances now.

>My daughter hates it.

    Ah.. Now we get to the real reason... ;->

>I refuse to get into a religious war over which is better (if you read
>carefully you will have noticed that I did not state an opinion on
>the matter), but I do get irritated by fanatics who have found the One
>True Way and who get upset whenever anyone sees things differently.

    I have no problem with people seeing things differently, but I would
really like hear what there is about System 6 that makes it more
attractive to use. You know, things like: you can have a real startup
floppy disk with System 6. Things like this. I am by no means a fanatic
who as found the One True Way (tm), but I am the "owner" of a Quadra 700
and all I can have is System 7, and I haven't regretted it so far.

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-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info
		   "A clear case of curare poisoning
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