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From: Stephen Cooper <stephen@csd.uu.se>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga advice for Mac user please...
Date: 12 Oct 1992 12:35:24 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Oct6.125723.4972@syma.sussex.ac.uk> Paul Russell,
paulr@syma.sussex.ac.uk writes:
>I am a Mac user, my friend has just bought an Amiga 600. I have
>access to the net, he doesn't. I have rashly volunteered to
>grab assorted freeware/shwareware from the net for him. So,
>what I need to know is:
>
>1) How do I transfer stuff from my Mac to his Amiga 600 ? I can
>   save stuff onto MS-DOS disks - can the Amiga read these
>   directly, or do I need some sort of utility ? [...]

Try Dos-2-Dos on the Amiga.  It's a commerical product which reads/writes
PC diskettes.  Make sure though that the mac end doesn't do any
conversions.  I've tried the internet-mac-pc-amiga path before, and
didn't have much success.  Cutting the mac out of the link solved my
problems.  Don't know what caused them, though.

There are also PD progs which do the same as Dos-2-Dos.  Most are on the
Fred Fish collection.  If your friend is a member of an Amiga User Group,
s/he might try looking there first.

>2) What compression/encoding scehems are used ? (Mac users:
>   what are the Amiga equivalents of BINHEX, StuffIt, Compactor,
>   etc) ?

Most popular formats when I was still FTP'ing to an Amiga were:
  Zoo   -- .zoo extention.
  Lharc -- .lhz & .lha
  Arc  -- .arc (oldie)
  All of these are available via Fred Fish or FTP.

>3) What are some good sites where I can FTP stuff from (Mac users:
>   what are the Amiga equivalents of sumex-aim.stanford.edu,
>   ftp.apple.com, etc) ?

Since you apparently are from the, UK, try nic.funet.fi in Finland.  They
have a complete Fred Fish collection.  (US users:  don't try this.  There
line to you is SLOW)

>4) What is a popular freeware/shareware comms program, ideally
>   with ZMODEM ? (Mac users: what is the Amiga equivalent of
>   ZTerm, etc) ?

My personal favourite is Jr-Comm.  There are numerous others.  Jr-Comm is
shareware, available again on Fred Fish.

>5) [Special bonus question for ham radio enthusiasts] Where can
>   I get freeware/shareware morse, packet and other ham radio
>   stuff for ther Amiga ?

Fred Fish

>Thanks for any help you can offer - please no Mac/Amiga advocacy
>stuff, just the facts, via e-mail preferably...

Thought that this was of general interest, so I posted to the net.
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From: bayes@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Scott Bayes)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:59:52 GMT
Subject: Re: Looking for Lisp (Xlisp as an example) for the Mac
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc

> orst.edu but that particular Lisp package has been archived as a "fit"
> file (NOT a "sit" file).  I guess this is a predicessor to SIT files
> or something.  I tried opening the "fit" file with Stuffit Classic
> 

Well, if "sit" means stuffit, does "fit" mean what I hpoe it doesn't mean?

:-)

ScottB
From: ostroff@Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: BRAINSTORM ACCELERATOR?
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:23:15 GMT
Reply-To: ostroff@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

In article <jal-290992185119@81.120.147.132.in-addr.arpa> jal@sco.COM (Joe Longo) writes:
>
>I've had a quote of around $250 for a fully installed accelerator from
>BrainStorm. Juding from the speed of my PowerBook 
>100, I would guess that the Plus will run at about 3 times it's current
>speed.

We recently got one.  I don't think it's quite that fast.  "Speedometer"
rated it at 1.85x a Classic, while the same program rated an unmodified
Plus at .89x a classic.  I think it just about doubles the speed. Screen
redraws are noticeably faster.

>When you say it's easy to install, just how easy is it ?
>is it worth the savings in installation costs ?

We pulled the motherboard and sent it to 800-WE-FIX-MACS (800-933-4962)
and they charged $200 INSTALLED, so I would say it's not gonna be worth
doing it yourself.  It involves cutting traces on the board, installing
a socket and other stuff.  I would NOT call it a trivial job.  Plus it is
warrantied if they do the work.

So far we're satisfied, buy like they say "you pays your money you takes 
your chance"....

.............................................................................
....Boyd Ostroff / Technical Director / SUNY Oswego Department of Theatre....
...............Voice: (315) 341-2987 /  Fax: (315) 341-3394..................
..............ostroff@oswego.oswego.edu / ostroff@cboard.UUCP................
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: pinto@fidalgo.stanford.edu (John Pinto)
Subject: PICT <--> QuickTime movie?
Organization: Psychology Dept, Stanford Univ.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 03:46:57 GMT

Hi there!  I have a set of equally sized PICT files that I would
like to incorporate into a QuickTime movie.  Is there any simple
way to do this, or any free/shareware for collecting PICTs and
converting them to QuickTime format?

Thanks. --- John (pinto@psych.stanford.edu)

Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:17755 comp.sys.mac.programmer:16933
From: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: SCCS/RCS for Mac? - Revisionist/Voodoo
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 01:50:20 EST
Organization: ICE Engineering, Inc.
Reply-To: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <1992Oct14.030413.26365@maths.tcd.ie> (comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer), tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy) writes:
> I ported RCS-5.6 to the Mac, using Think C.
> It's available from ftp.tcd.maths.tcd in pub/Mac as ci.hqx and co.hqx.

Make that "ftp.maths.tcd.ie".


tim endres - time@ice.com  -or- tbomb!time
ICE Engineering, Inc - 8840 Main St, Whitmore Lake, MI 48189
Phone (313) 449 8288 - FAX (313) 449-9208
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From: ucc19@rosie.uh.edu (James Yee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Fileserver information wanted.
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:38:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: rosie.13OCT199211384863
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


  We are a university facility trying to improve our Macintosh setup.
Presently, we are booting forty-four Macs with diskettes; they connect
to remote fileservers through PhoneNet-type cabling. Macintosh's print
spooler software allows individuals to control their print requests to a
LaserWriter with a attached debit card mechanism. 
  Our future setup may have the same number of Macs with Ethernet cards.
They will either remote boot, use a diskette, or use a hard disk. The
users must me able to print to various printers and have the ability to
control their print requests. Users will launch all their applications
from a fileserver. For our fileserver software, we are analyzing Digital
Equipment Corp. PathWorks for the Mac, Apple's Appleshare Server, Novell
for the Mac, and CAP/KIP software. 
  Has anyone done a comparison of the above fileserver software? Is
there any controlling of print requests from the user end with the above
fileserver software? Any help would be appreciated. Please reply to me 
via EMail.
James Yee
Univeristy of Houston Academic Systems
Internet: jwy@uh.edu
Voice: (713) 743-1573
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: ron_b@apollo.hp.com (Ron Buttiglieri)
Subject: Envisio display card for PB100 4 sale
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 11:39:08 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA


I just bought a new PB100 that came bundled with an Envisio display card
and extra 2M. MacWarehouse sells it for $249, I'll take $239 OBO.
This is ideal for anyone with a 2M PB100 system that wants to do
2 things: upgrade to a 4M machine; add an external monitor.
It will work with most monitors (12", 13", 16", VGA) but will only 
display in B&W (since that's all the PB100 supports).

Email please.

Ron
From: Seokmin Ahn <smahn@vx.cis.umn.edu>
Subject: Q: Name of a Musical Keyboard Emulation program?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7009EA6A301C36A@me51-3-106.me.umn.edu>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 13 Oct 92 15:41:26 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:39:12 GMT

Hi! fellow netters,

I am looking for a musical keyboard emulator using Mac keyboard.
It doesn't have to have recording function, just a simple one.
I prefer shareware/freeware.

Thank you for your help in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: bcarter@claven.idbsu.edu (Bruce Carter)
Subject: Re: User Name Lock (System 6)
Organization: Boise State University - CBI Product Development
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:29:12 GMT

In article <9210161447.AA26131@Athena.MIT.EDU> bowler@Athena.MIT.EDU (Bert
Smith) writes:
>Is there some way to lock the name of the user in system 6?  At our site,
>the shared machines are frequently having their names changed when people
>are logging into their AppleShare Volumes.  People tend to change the name
>at the first point not the second point.  I know that changing to system 7
>will fix this problem, but is there some method to lock the name in system
>6?

ChooserUser.  It should be around at any of the Mac FTP sites.  It allows you a
variety of options regarding the name, one of them being to lock it to a
certain value.  We used this until we upgraded to System 7.

                                     <->
Bruce Carter, CBI Product Development                bcarter@claven.idbsu.edu
Simplot/Micron Instructional Technology Center       amccarte@idbsu (Bitnet)
Boise State University, Boise, ID  83725             (208)385-1851@phone
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: m_bellor@nntpd2.enet.dec.com ("Sasquatch")
Subject: System Disk partion problems
Reply-To: m_bellor@nntpd2.enet.dec.com ("Sasquatch")
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Colorado Springs, CO
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:44:54 GMT



 I just recently recieved the upgrade to MacTools, and was building some
 partitions on the system disk. While doing this I did not set the size
 a couple of times and then selected cancel and retried again. When I was
 done I noticed that there was 2 partitions of 800k blocks that will not
 mount and will not delete. Is there a way to clean these up without doing
 a restore of the backup I ran before I partition the disk??? Any help
 would be appreciated. If e-mail, my address is at the bottom of the .sig

 Mike



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From: galeana@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: GIF to get on the MAC.
Date: 14 Oct 92 04:55:35 GMT
Organization: Northern Arizona University

I ftp'd into some site that carried many graphics with the .gif
How do I get them safely to my mac. But first let me tell you I do the transfer
I have an account on a vax/vms system and I use FTP to get into some site.
Know do I have to type image or binary before I get the graphic, or do I get
the graphic to my account and use a program (GIFConverter).

MANY Graphics out there with .gif   They look very nice( Well actualy the make
them sound like they are good images)

THANKS
Any responses or replyes would be greatly appreciated.

Juan
galena@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu
From: larry@celia.UUCP (Larry Weinberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Softw. Publishing Question
Keywords: market research publishing
Date: 15 Oct 92 11:12:26 GMT
Reply-To: lampy!larry@usc.edu (Larry Weinberg)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rhythm & Hues, Inc., Hollywood


Hope someone can steer me somewhere --

 I have written a Macintosh application that I am trying to 
 have published.  

 To aid in my endeavor, I need to try to estimate the market
 potential for my program.  Does anyone know of services which
 provide market data (number of users/software packages, etc)
 in fairly specific areas of the computer graphics world?

 Or are their publishers, distributers, or publications which would
 be particularly helpful to me?

 Or has someone else been through this and has some good ideas to
 share?

 Thanks for any help.

 Larry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: hwa@fassm.jhuapl.edu (Hani W. Akhras)
Subject: System Memory
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: JHU/APL
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:46:17 GMT

I wanted to know if there was a program that would tell me how much memory
each of the extensions is taking up. Any help would be appreciated.

thank you very much 

hani w akhras
hwa@fassm.jhuapl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: dave@prc.unisys.com (David Lee Matuszek)
Subject: Re: BIG Virus Question.....
Organization: Paoli Research Center - Paoli, PA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:56:50 GMT

In article <92286.20035834A6J53@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> CHUCK WILLIAMS <34A6J53@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:
>Hi to all,
>
>Hopefully someone can help me.  I've been debating with a friend of
>mine.  He says it's illegal to knowingly possess a virus, and I said
>no way, it's only illegal if you maliciously distribute it.  Could anyone
>be Judge Wapner and settle this case?

It's not illegal to possess a virus.  If it were, we'd all be in big
trouble, because all the people who write our anti-viral software
would be in jail.  You can hardly write anti-viral software without
having virii to try it out on.

It is, however, STUPID to possess a virus.  (With the specific
exception of people working on the virus problem and using very
careful containment techniques.)  Stupidity is not usually a crime,
but if the virus gets out, with any luck at all the law can find
SOMETHING to pin on you....

  --dave

-- 

It isn't pollution that's harming the environment.  It's the
impurities in our air and water that are doing it.
                -- Vice President Dan Quayle
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: jchin@prodigy.bc.ca (Joe Chin)
Subject: Synchronize clocks
Reply-To: jchin@prodigy.bc.ca
Organization: Prodigy Technologies Corp.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 11:30:54 GMT

I am looking for a system extension that will synchronize the clocks on all Macintoshes on our LAN and WAN with the clocks on our UNIX servers (which are synchronized with other clocks on the Internet via ntp). If you know the whereabouts of such a beast, please enlighten me. Thanks.

Joe

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Joseph Chin				Prodigy Technologies Corp.
jchin@prodigy.bc.ca (NeXTmail welcome)	Vancouver, British Columbia
phone 16046874636 / fax 16046871671	Canada  V6Z 2H6
 **** "Heaven won't take me and Hell's afraid I'll take over!" ****

From: stevewi@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Steve Witten)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:31:51 GMT
Subject: Re: Need a small database
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc

Get yourself a copy of TouchBase 2.0.  It's lean, it's mean and it
will do everything you want.

===============================================================================
Steve Witten                    stevewi%hpspd@hplabs.hp.com
Network Test Division           ...!hplabs!hpspd!stevewi
Hewlett-Packard Co.             stevewi@hpspd.spd.hp.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: s5170748@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (THAN LEE)
Subject: Color Startup Screens in Sys 7.0
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:50:00 GMT

I have some beautiful color PICT images for my Mac II, but I don't know how
to get them to be used as startup screens.  They have the correct file type,
so where do I put 'em in directory, and what do I call 'em?

Thanks,
Nathaniel Lee
From: bierbach@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Password protection of folders
Date: 10 Oct 92 14:41:12 -0400
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

Hi!  I am in charge of the Macintoshes in our computing lab, each with 
its own hard drive.  We have been having problems with people messing 
around with the contents of the System Folder. Is there a utility 
available to password protect the System Folder?
					Thanks,
						Jeremy
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            of Georgetown University, nor of Pope John Paul II.
From: popaul@cs.mcgill.ca (Paul TERRAY)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: System 7 Sound??
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:06:36 GMT
Reply-To: popaul@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada

In article <1992Oct6.224720.11561@lsil.com> louisc@lsil.com (Louis Chui)  
writes:
> 
> This must be a pretty "stupid" question. But what is a System 7
> sound file? How is it different from a pre-7 sound file? What
> can I do with it except using it as the beep sound?

The system 7 sound file differ in a way that you can put it in your system  
folder to add it to your error sound list, and you can double-click on it to  
hear the sound. That's all

paul TERRAY
popaul@cs.mcgill.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: cs108069@pandora.sdsu.edu (John DeRose)
Subject: Re: Looking for init/cdev to track usage
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:20:38 GMT

There's a shareware program from a few years ago called LaunchINIT.
I got a copy of it from CompuServe and it'll do the things your asking
for.  One disappointment:  You have 30 days from the your launching of
the program to decide if you like.  If you do, you gotta send in something
like $20 to get the full working copy.

Party on!  :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: dougb@ecs.comm.mot.com (Douglas Bank)
Subject: Sharing a Norton Partition
Organization: Motorola., Inc.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:06:15 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc

Is it possible to share a Norton Partition.  I have tried a couple 
of times, but it always gives me the "Some items are not available..."
message.  Any suggestions?

---
Doug Bank                       Private Systems Division
dougb@ecs.comm.mot.com          Motorola Communications Sector
dougb@nwu.edu                   Schaumburg, Illinois
dougb@casbah.acns.nwu.edu       708-576-8207
From: ask@tuck.cs.nott.ac.uk (Andrew M Skinner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: League Tables - Help I Need a program
Keywords: program wanted
Date: 13 Oct 92 11:24:48 GMT
Organization: Communications Research Group



 Does anyone out there have - or know of - a program that will allow the user to compile league sports tables on the Mac. I was thinking of writting one but at present do not have the time (Final exam coming up) to learn how to use C on the one button wonder. It should allow the user to enter the result of fixture and then the  program should compile the league tables. The program should also allow the leagues to be printed onto a laser printer.

  It would also be nice if the program could organise the fixtures - which would save a lot of typing in - but this is not essential.

   Any help in this matter would be greatfully excepted

              Thanks in advance
                Andrew S.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: pg@sanitas.stortek.com (Paul Gilmartin)
Subject: Re: Another stooge trying to decode files from comp.binaries.mac
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:05:33 GMT

Terry Thero (terry@col.hp.com) wrote:
: Hi Dave,
: 
:    The first thing you need to do is strip all the head and tail,
:    i.e.,

:       (This file must be converted with BinHex 4.0)

    [ and ]

:        --


No, NO, NO!  The "(This file must be converted with BinHex 4.0)" and "---"
are part of the protocol; they must be left in the file.  The former
tells the decoder that it is, in fact, a BinHex file, and where to start
decoding.  The latter tells the decoder what are headers and footers (even
in a multi part file.)  String the parts together; don't throw _anything_
away; Compact Pro will figure it out.

You still have to select Decode BinHex from the "Special" menu, and you
probably still have to decompress after decoding BinHex.

Enjoy,
gil
From: jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: NOW Utilities 4.0 instability
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:02:43 GMT
	<73162@apple.Apple.COM> <1992Oct7.185220.7365@cerritos.edu>
Organization: USC-ISI
In-reply-to: jacobs@cerritos.edu's message of 8 Oct 92 02:52:19 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.185220.7365@cerritos.edu> jacobs@cerritos.edu writes:

>      2 weeks ago I ordered the upgrade for NU 4.0 . One week ago I heard
>about all the instability problems. I just recieved 4.0 in the mail today,
>Should I assume that It would be in my best interests not to install it until
>there is a bug fix released?

If you don't need it, wait a week or two for 4.0.1 to come out.

Overall though, Ipersonally have had few crashes.

jas
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:17830 comp.sys.mac.apps:15726 comp.sys.mac.system:12814
From: gt8798a@prism.gatech.EDU (Anthony S. Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Application Launcher from Menu-Bar?
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:48:34 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

i saw at a local computer store a mac with a couple of triangles on both extreme
ends of the Menu-Bar, which if clicked on, would show a list of application that
you could open.  similar to the Apple System Menu Folder using system 7.

is this a shareware program?  if so, what is program called?

Please responds to gt8798a@prism.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: billie@camelot.bradley.edu (Eliot Frick)
Subject: .GIF to .PICT w/ id=0
Organization: Bradley University
Date:  9 Oct 92 06:48:47 GMT

Is there a shareware program to do this?  ftp site?
I've got a GIF that we want to put on the desktop for a demonstration,
(using DeskPict v1.1), but I need to get the GIF into a format that the 
program can read.  Thanks.
--
"Hampton, this is the 90's.  Take out a loan and buy a clue."  -Plucky
"Rock band auditions today: Must be able to play 3 chords and grimace
musically.  See Steve Dallas."
billie@camelot.bradley.edu
From: callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Joel E Callan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Q: Name of a Musical Keyboard Emulation program?
Date: 14 Oct 1992 04:47:14 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Reply-To: callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

From article <1992Oct13.203912.21259@news2.cis.umn.edu>, by Seokmin Ahn <smahn@vx.cis.umn.edu>:
> Hi! fellow netters,
> 
> I am looking for a musical keyboard emulator using Mac keyboard.
> It doesn't have to have recording function, just a simple one.
> I prefer shareware/freeware.
> 
> Thank you for your help in advance.

You should check out Pianosim-10.hqx from sumex. Nifty little shareware
program that seems to be worth the dl time to get and check out. I don't
know if it's what you are looking for, but you may just be surprised:-)

Joel Callan
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc