HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Let's get DNA on the Net!
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:01:39 GMT
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology

In article <1dilmiINNddc@shrike.und.ac.za>, dace@shrike.und.ac.za (Roy Dace) writes:
 > I have [shock, horror] fingered the alleged dna@cix.compulink.co.uk and it
 > *does* exist.  It also has no listed real name for the account holder.
 > 
 > (Nor does Terry Pratchett's, btw)
 > 
 > I think it's likely that this real account does really belong to DNA, and
 > so he does have access to this newsgroup & internet mail.  So, he's
 > probably reading this anyway, in which case it's really impolite not to
 > chip in & let us know - I'm sure people would respect a request not to
 > email.

Try posting something *really* controversial (like "Hi, I'm Douglas Adams.  I
wrote HHGG.  Please don't mail me.").  Wait for, say a week.  Then, when your
systems manager tells you "There is NO room left on the net. You use 1.6GB (no. 1
of 600,000).  *Please* delete *something*", you'll know why.

Just adding a bit of realism here :) (I didn't mean to, really...  Aargh!)

 > 	-Hal

-Eyvind

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From: dace@shrike.und.ac.za (Roy Dace)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Let's get DNA on the Net!
Date: 8 Nov 1992 09:12:50 GMT
Organization: University of Natal (Durban), South Africa
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I have [shock, horror] fingered the alleged dna@cix.compulink.co.uk and it
*does* exist.  It also has no listed real name for the account holder.

(Nor does Terry Pratchett's, btw)

I think it's likely that this real account does really belong to DNA, and
so he does have access to this newsgroup & internet mail.  So, he's
probably reading this anyway, in which case it's really impolite not to
chip in & let us know - I'm sure people would respect a request not to
email.

	-Hal
From: eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Mostly Harmless spoilers and the rest of the HHG series
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:11:53 GMT
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology

In article <3q9VTB1w165w@korova.freeside.com>, thanatos@korova.freeside.com (Thanatos) writes:

 > Oh, and off of _MH_, I've found an error in LtUaE..
 > When Ford and Arthur got to that Cricket field, they saw Slartibartfast's 
 > ship.  Sure, they recognized him, but how did he recognize Arthur and 
 > Ford?  He hadn't met either of them yet!  He doesn't meet them until the 
 > Earth is nothing but dust in space, and Zaphod and the other Loonies are 
 > parading around Magrathea.. Had Slartibartfast gone through time and seen 
 > them, and if so, DNA never mentions that they went back to the future.. 
 > big loop hole there..

Not really; after all, Slarty would have had to travel back in time, since at the
time of Arthur and Ford's escape from Earth, there was no mention of any slaughter
at a cricket match, so the Krikkit (sp?) robots traveled back in time to get the
ashes; then Slarty followed them.  Anyway, he *had* met them, because if you are 
saying that the Magrathea thing was *after* the Krikkit near-war, then Slarty knew
Arthur from before meeting him on Magrathea...  (Weird, I know :)

 > Now back to _MH_.. IN HHG, it says when Trillian and Arthur met Zaphod, 
 > or rather Phil, he had one head and two arms.. in _MH_ it says he had two 
 > heads and the three arms, but he had a bird cage over the second head and 
 > kept making squawking noises.. What happened here?

He only got the third arm just before we met him (in HHGG, there's something like
"the third arm he'd just added..." when he's on the boat).  He was disguised at 
the party, as a single-headed man with a cage on his shoulder.  The head inside
the cage was squawking, to seem more lifelike (anyway, I think there was a cover 
over the cage).

 > And just a little thought.. Since Tricia McMillan never left earth in the 
 > other reality, what happened to that Arthur and Ford and Zaphod in the 
 > other universe?  The Improbability thing with all of them knowing each 
 > other would have never happened, and most likely, Arthur and Ford would 
 > have died of Axphyxiation in deep space one second before the Heart of 
 > Gold in it's sneaker-likeness would have shown up, which it probably 
 > wouldn't have, and Zaphod also would probably never have gotten the 
 > ship!

Good point!

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From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Mostly Harmless (again)
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:58:28 GMT

The discussion of cutting holes thru the center of the Earth and using
them as a transportation system wasn't mentioned in any of the
Hitchhiker's books (or any other that I know of).  That came up because
someone said that it takes 42 minutes to fall from one side of the Earth
to the other.

- Eric S.

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams,rec.arts.books,umn.general.events
From: rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Rao Akella)
Subject: Douglas Adams in St.Paul, Minn.
Reply-To: rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu
Organization: Colon Cancer Control Study, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:24:18 GMT



Douglas Adams will be at Odegard Books, 857 Grand Ave., St.Paul, MN 55105
Friday, November 13 at 7:30 pm.

Minnesota: Where men are real men, women are real women, and small furry
creatures from Alpha Centauri are...you know...

-- Rao Akella    <rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu, rao%moose@umnacvx.bitnet>

Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
From: nleverton@cix.compulink.co.uk (nleverton)
ReplyTo: nick@warren.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: Let's get DNA on the Net!
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:32:11 +0000

In article <1992Nov10.183724.27289@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk> ucjtrjf@ucl.ac.uk (Jonny Farringdon) writes:

>Roy!!  You do NOT understand what `finger' does.
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>Umm. i too fingered  {dna, douglas, adams, da, &c} at cix.compulink.co.uk
>and found NO sign of him - or Pratchett -.
[...]
>This means that `dna' is NOT an account on cix.compulink.co.uk !

Indeed it does mean that dna is not a Unix account ... but none of you
understands how CIX works ! There are probably only a dozen or so Unix
accounts on Cix, belonging to the administrators (try 'mat' or 'gh').
Finger me (nleverton), or Pterry (tpratchett), or Wavey Davey (dwindera)
- you won't find any of us there. BUT, if you telnet cix.compulink.co.uk,
type 'cix' to login followed by 'new', and follow the instructions, you
too can join the 5000 or so Cixen who have accounts under the CoSy
conferencing system on cix.compulink.co.uk, and can type 'show who dna'
to your heart's content, as well as participating in the largest
technical and social discussion system in the UK. CIX is as far beyond
BBSes as Usenet is beyond two tin cans connected by a piece of wet
string.

It costs - but from memory I think it's only about two quid an hour
off-peak (17:00 to 09:00) and three quid an hour in the daytime (09:00
to 17:00). Usual disclaimers, I have no commercial connection, check the
figures yourselves, YMMV, IANAL etc etc :-)

And before anyone flames me, I DO have dna@cix's full permission to
release his mail address, but until now I'd withheld it for exactly the
reasons already stated by other posters. Now flame away.

Nick Leverton
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which everything has sat except a man   e.e.cummings
From: horne@physics.su.OZ.AU (Geoff Horne)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: What Happens in MH (my thoughts) **spoilers**
Date: 9 Nov 92 01:31:25 GMT
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia


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From: jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Thoughts on MOSTLY HARMLESS (spoilers)
Date: 5 Nov 1992 18:15:40 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <1992Nov5.053124.21067@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> fong_jh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Julian H Fong) writes:
>In article <1d9vqmINN54u@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> ST102315@brownvm.brown.edu () writes:
>>In article <Bx7tAp.6An@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jjh37997@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (James J.
>>Herlburt) said:
>>>>|> *** WARNING. POSSIBLE SPOILERS! *** READ MOSTLY HARMLESS FIRST ***
>>>>
>>>>Ditto for me....
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>>Me, too...
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>	Good riddance to it, I think.  I can't really put my finger on a
>logical reason why, but when the Guide Mk II flashed its PANIC message, that
>passage really gave me the creeps.

	Me too.  I thought that was one of the best passages in the book.  It
was right then that I realized that this was NOT just going to be a typically
funny HH book, but a bit of a nail-biter as well.  It was just so unnerving
that I was unable to put the book down after that; I don't think there's been a
point like that in any of Adams' other books for me.

>	What I'm still none too clear on is how the Guide II could engineer
>events in such a way that the destruction of the Earth with the four-leaved
>clovers would result in all possible Earths being wiped from existence.

	I think it was mentioned that the four-leaved clover Earth was at a
critical point of the probability axis (an intercept?  an inflection point?).

>because all the involved parties have ships of their own: the RW6, the
>four-berth Hrundi runabout, and Elvis' pink-Cadillacoid ship.  The question
>is, could they have gotten to their ships in time to escape the destruction
>of the Earth?

	I don't think they had time to get there, unless one of them had a
teleporter ready to go (probably only Trillian would; Ford had an inkling of
what was going on, but seemed in no particular hurry, and Random didn't know
much about anything).  And how many people would Trillian be able to get out?
I doubt all of them; probably she'd get as many as she could out in the order
of herself, Random, Arthur, Ford, Tricia.

>	Overall, I thoroughly enjoyed the book, and I think it's very
>characteristic of the increasing depth and complexity of Adams' writing.

	Dittos to that!  I hope DNA continues this new style; it's much more
fun to read a book with a strong plot that is funny as well, rather than just
one that's just funny.
From: xyzzy@mertwig.UUCP (Daniel Drucker)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: spooky error...
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 15:49:15 EST
Organization: Organization: Organization: Organization: fun with loops: fun with loops:

gs32+@andrew.cmu.edu (Geoffrey Spear) writes:

> 	My console just gave me the following message:
> 
> <messages>X error BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) (8) major code
> 42 minor code 0 ignored  (11:40:13 AM )

If thats the kind of messages your console gives you consider X windows!

Daniel Max P. Drucker

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From: lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Otmar Lendl)
Subject: Re: green stone-eaters
Organization: University of Salzburg / Austria
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 09:45:43 GMT

In article <9NOV199222365454@rigel.tamu.edu> llw4511@rigel.tamu.edu (WRIGHT, LAURA LORRINE) writes:
>
>Where did you get "small green stone-eater who usually grabs all passing
>stones at a level of 2km below surface"?  I have never heard of that.  Is
>it from one of DNA's books?  Thanks in advance.
No, it's in some old german fairy-tale. ( I can't quite remember the
whole story, but this arguments never fails to puzzle a physicist. )

Otmar

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
From: llw4511@rigel.tamu.edu (WRIGHT, LAURA LORRINE)
Subject: green stone-eaters
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:36:00 GMT


Where did you get "small green stone-eater who usually grabs all passing
stones at a level of 2km below surface"?  I have never heard of that.  Is
it from one of DNA's books?  Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
From: mr2@irz205.inf.tu-dresden.de (Matthias Rauhut)
Subject: TV-tapes available in germany
Reply-To: rauhut@freia.inf.tu-dresden.de
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, TU Dresden, Germany.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 05:16:09 GMT


For germans only:

 Weiss jemand von den deutschen Lesern dieser Newsgroup eventuell -besser
  noch,ganz sicher - wo ich die Videos(?) zur HHGTTG-Fernsehserie o/u
  die CD's der Hoerspielserie der BBC hier in good ol' germany beziehen
  kann?
  Ich suche schon kleinere bis groessere Ewigkeiten danach und bis jetzt
  konnte mir keiner darueber Auskunft geben,dass sie hier UEBERHAUPT
  kaeuflich erwerbbar waeren - schenken wollten sie mir noch viel weniger
  Leute...
  Ach ja,wieviel mich der Spass,die Sachen zu besitzen und die Freude,die
  Dinge auch dann noch zu hoeren/sehen kosten wird (oder wuerde),wuesste
  ich natuerlich auch gern.

Also dann,ich giere auf eure Antworten.

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
From: bscott@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ben Scott)
Subject: Re: Let's get DNA on the Net!
Summary: No problem 
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	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 06:35:36 GMT

In article <1ct8k6INNhra@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> keeper@deeptht.armory.com writes:
>Douglas does have a CompuServe account.  I don't know if he has access
>to anything on usenet, though.

He does not, as yet.
 
>Of course, one can mail CompuServe accounts using our trusty internet
>mailers, so one could mail DNA if one knew his CompuServe number.
>There is/was a reader of this newsgroup who occasionally corresponds
>with DNA in this manner.  DNA, naturally, doesn't want the world to
>know his CompuServe address.

He was in Denver for a booksigning recently, and later went to do an
interview on a radio show.  On it, he mentioned that he is often asked if he
is "on the net" (and there's only one net big enough to be refered to in the
generic sense...), but that he has no idea how to get access.  I called and
offered to help him get access, if he'd leave me a way to contact him.  He
couldn't remember his C$erve address right then but gave me an address on
another net which is reachable from my site (no, I won't give it out here,
without his permission...), and I have sent him a message.  I do not expect
a reply for some time - at least until he gets back from his current tour
which will last through November.  And for all I know I wrote down his
address wrong, or he'll forget about it, or I won't be able to find a site
suitable, or so on and so on - so, no promises.

I also intend to advise him not to post here, or to do so under a pseudonym,
unless he WANTS to spend vast amounts of time replying to mail.  

(hey, guys, which would you prefer - being able to send Email to Adams, or
getting new books more often?!)

Disclaimer - I don't keep up on this group - I don't know how far this
thread has gone since the message I'm replying to.  If you want to reply to
me, use Email or I probably won't see it.

.                            <<<<Infinite K>>>>

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From: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Douglas Adams Interview in East Lansing
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:19:59 GMT
Reply-To: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Organization: The Wistar Institute of Anatomy and Biology
In-reply-to: msr@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michael Rosenberg)

In article <1992Nov13.141954.24632@news.acns.nwu.edu>, msr@casbah (Michael Rosenberg) writes:
>>What about a Hitchhiker movie?

>About 10 years ago, he sold the script to some producer in Hollywood, and
>proceeded to go to Hollywood in order to write the screenplay. [...]

In the omnibus intro, he comments that the delays--back when he thought
his screenplay would become a movie--inspired him to write SLATFALF.
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From: martin@cs.curtin.edu.au (Martin Dougiamas)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Thoughts on MOSTLY HARMLESS (spoilers)
Date: 8 Nov 92 12:45:18 GMT
Organization: Curtin University of Technology


fong_jh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Julian H Fong) writes:

>>>>>>|> *** WARNING. POSSIBLE SPOILERS! *** READ MOSTLY HARMLESS FIRST ***

>

>	One other thought: Didn't anyone think that the whole idea of a
>secret research lab on the 13th floor of a building, which is not shown on
>any plans or on the elevator's floor display, was taken directly from Max
>Headroom?  Perhaps the British version doesn't emphasize it as much, but the
>concept of the 13th floor was of great significance in the American version
>of the Max Headroom pilot.

Hmmm... I doubt there is a direct connection there.  It's more likely
that the thirteenth floor is the most noticeable unusual thing about
large buildings, so there are lots of books and movies that use that
fact. (eg "Oh God") (BTW, I couldn't stand the American versions of
Max Headroom... too plastic, no subtlety.  IMO, the British version
was far superior).

But isn't this "missing 13th floor" thing unique to the US?  This brings
me to something else I've noticed about MH... DNA seems to be directing
this most recent book more towards the US market than his other books..
Little things like ... oh... having the telephone company named BS&S,
(ie AT&T) and all the stuff in New York... and lots of other little
items that escape me for the moment.  A friend of mine had independently
noticed it too.... this book is a lot less "british" (whatever that is)
than the others.  I mean the subject matter, not the writing style.

I wonder if those of you in the US noticed it too?

Martin
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Pizza delivery
From: ENGC9241548F@LUST.LATROBE.EDU.AU (WALSH,Michael J.)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:58:01 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

I was both amused and shocked when I first read Long Dark Tea-Time of the
Soul and learnt that Londoners, if not all of England, don't have pizza
delivery. Has society evolved there since then or is it still a hellish
world in which delivered pizza simply does not exist? How can you people
live?
					-Michael W.
From: jim@n5ial.chi.il.us (Jim Graham)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Chicago Booksigning report/etc. 
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 00:46:46 GMT
Organization: Me? Organized? Hah! :-)

In article <1992Nov9.141751.23575@Firewall.Nielsen.Com>
ccullen@ops-2.Naitc.Com writes:

> The DNA appearance at Barbara's Bookstore in Chicago last night was great.

well, by the time I'm writing this, it wasn't quite last night, but
I have to agree --- it was great to see DNA in person again.  the guy
is really amazing to listen to (and read, of course!).  I especially
liked his reading of the bit where Marvin is left to stop the gigantic
heavy duty battle machine (you know the bit.....  ``Out of my way,
little robot!''  ``I'm afraid, I've been left here to stop you.''  and
so on).  I thought the speaker system was going to blow out when he
yelled the ``Out of my way, little robot!'' bit.  :-)

I only have one new (?) thing to add to this, so I'd better get on with
it....

I asked him if, by chance, Mostly Harmless just happened to have, oh,
exactly 100,000 words (remembering net.comments to that effect, as well
as a certain part in the book around, oh, pages 122-3, and so on).  his
response sort of indicated that this wasn't the first time he'd been
asked this (i.e., he wasn't surprised to hear the question), and no,
that isn't the case.  he said there were more like 72,000 or 73,000
words.  oh well, it would have been amusing if it'd worked out that
way.  :-)

type at y'all later.
   --jim

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