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From: parson@coulomb.pcc.oz.au (Brenda Parsons - x2403)
Subject: RDist to PC's?
Organization: Prospect Electricity, Sydney
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 08:32:47 GMT

We are looking for a method to propagate new versions of
in-house software which is designed to run on both the UNIX platforms
and the DOS platform.

The source will be stored on the UNIX side, and when changes to the
source is made, we would like to be able to automatically install the
new release across the platforms.

This would entail compiling and installing on UNIX as well as transferring
the source to the PC's and compiling and installing there.

Does anyone have any experience in this type of activity?
Or any suggestions as to how to achieve this?
Are there any packages on the market which will do the job, either
freeware or licensed?


Thanks


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Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.apps:2090 comp.sys.sun.misc:4443 comp.sys.sun.admin:6768
From: allyn@netcom.com (allyn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: CG3270 and Sparcprinter problems
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:06:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.tt+pmwp.allyn
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

We have been having problems with the Sparcprinter product and the
CG3270 (IBM terminal emulation) product. Both these products use
the xnews server.

The problems that we have been having is that these products would
occasionally freeze up and would have to be re-started. In the case
of the Sparcprinter, the status would show that the printer is up
and running with a queue but nothis would be happening. I would have
to abort, stop, and restart the printer using the appropriate lpc
commands. I can tell that it is not the printer engine itself
because poweringthe printer up and down has no affect and I do not have
to power the printer up and down to clear the problem.

In the case of the CG3270, we have had this freeze up so that it would
not take characters from the keyboard and ould have to be killed and 
re-started. Sometimes, this freezeup would lock up the rest of the 
applications running on the screen.

Sun disclaimed any problems. We are using 2.0 for openwin; 7.0 for 
CG3270 and 1.0 for the sparcprinter software.

Thanks!

Mark
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.apps:2150 comp.sys.sun.hardware:4778 comp.sys.sun.misc:4514 comp.sys.sun.wanted:1576
From: ats@bigfoot.first.gmd.de (Andreas Schulz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted
Subject: Re: SUN4 - SUN3
Date: 4 Oct 92 12:14:47 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.apps
Organization: GMD-FIRST, Berlin

In article <1992Oct3.114844.8192@ukw.uucp> lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph) writes:
>The maximum value for ARRAYSIZE that worked was 8383328. Note that this
>is 8*1024*1024 - 5280. 
>
>The magic number 5280 reflects the amount of stack occuppied when the
>program is started with this command line:
>
>This tells me that the total stack space you can have is 8 MB, minus environment
>and argv, minus some overhead for crt0.o, etc.


That's not correct, you have only used the standard limits for the
stacksize. If you are using the "csh", you can look at your standard
stacksize with the "limit" command, and you can raise it with 
"limit stacksize unlimited".  When the maximum limit is some other magic
larger number. 

The number 5280 are the 5Kb for the environment space, and the argv
array, and some internal variables above "main".



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted
From: pgf@delcano.mit.edu (Peter G. Ford)
Subject: Re: SUN4 - SUN3
Reply-To: pgf@space.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Center for Space Research
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:48:52 GMT

>In article <1992Sep28.132937.22618@dcc.uchile.cl> ncristi@dcc.uchile.cl
(Nelson Cristi Zayas) writes:
><      I get a C program, it runs on a SUN3 but not on a SUN4.
><I need to port it. It will be helpful to know the diferencess
><(byte ordering,word size,word alignment,byte addressing,etc.)
><between SUN3 and SUN4. 

In addition to the other postings, note the following subtleties
associated with the compilers and virtual memory implementation:

[1] Maximum addressable stack within a procedure: the total length
    of automatic variables that can be allocated in each procedure
    differs between Sun3 and Sun4. While this is really a compiler
    restriction, it will generally differ for the two architectures,
    but I don't have exact numbers in front of me.

[2] Sun3 compilers inspect the value of the FLOAT_OPTION environment
    variable and decide how to implement floating-point instructions
    accordingly. Sun4 compilers will bomb unless FLOAT_OPTION is
    either undefined or set to "fsoft".

[3] Memory page size: SunOS 4.1.X uses 4K virtual memory pages on
    SPARCstations. All other Suns use 8K. Of course, this would
    only make a difference in the case of a coding error, or if
    your program calls mmap() without first calling getpagesize()
    to determine the correct size.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.music
From: putz@parc.xerox.com (Steve Putz)
Subject: SUMMARY: Playing SongWright tunes through SPARC audio
Followup-To: comp.music
Keywords: music sound audio sparcstation
Reply-To: putz@parc.xerox.com (Steve Putz)
Organization: Xerox PARC
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 07:39:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.220234.13004@parc.xerox.com>, I wrote asking for
a program to play tunes (as opposed to audio files) through a Sun
SPARCstation's audio device.
I wanted this because I have access to a database containing 1300 folk
music tunes in a format produced by a PC program called SongWright.

I ended up getting a copy of the MIT Media Lab's Csound program by
Barry Vercoe (compiling it for the Sun but printing the documentation
using a Macintosh).

I then wrote an awk script to convert the SongWright files to SCOT score
files which the csound program can convert to SPARC audio format in real
time.  I play the tunes with commands like:

	tune2scot file > tune.scot
	csound -dhuo /dev/audio tune.orc -S tune.scot

Although Csound is more sophisticated than what I originally wanted,
it turned out to be a good choice, since in the process of testing
my conversion script I discovered that some of the tunes I had included
multiple voices (harmony or rounds), which was easy to implement with
Csound.

Someone also pointed me at the "sparctracker" program, which is able to
play Amiga "tracker" audio modules on a Sun SPARCstation.  However I did
not discover any way to generate tracker modules on the Sun, so that
approach did not help me.

I had to guess at much of the SongWright score format, but I think I got it
almost all right (at least for the tunes I have).  However if anyone knows
any actual details about SongWright format, please contact me.

Also, are there some nice sounding standard instruments (.orc files)
available for Csound?  I used a variation of the example bachm.orc
file, but I would be interested in other simple instruments (that don't
take too much computation for playing in real time).

Thanks to all that responded to my query.

Steve Putz <putz@parc.xerox.com>
Xerox Palo Alto Research Center
Palo Alto, California
From: lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Reading a QIC-24 tape in a QIC-150 tape drive
Keywords: QIC-24 QIC-150 tape
Date: 26 Sep 92 13:06:46 GMT
Organization: cic

dhiltz@whsun1.wh.whoi.edu (David Hiltz) writes:

> I am tryin' to read a QIC-24 tape, which contains Oracle v6.0.36, in a Sun QIC-150
> drive.  Can this be done?

> The QIC-150 drive is the only tape drive connected to a SS2 running SunOS 4.1.1. 
> The tape has been rewound with "mt -f /dev/nrst0 rew" and there is a tar file on it.

> I type:

>    tar xvf /dev/nrst0 

> and it comes back with...

>    tar: read error: I/O error

"This should not happen". Either the tape is really bad, or you have an
early Archive Viper drive. Some of these had a bad PLL that could not
synch up on the QIC-24 (and QIC-11) tapes.

>  Could it be that the tape is just bad? 

>  I also tried "tar xvf /dev/nrst8" (which someone suggest I try), but that also did
>  not work.

This is really old. SunOS does an automatic density selection, and I believe
the Archive Viper does the same on it's own. Different devices *can* be used
for writing, but they make no difference on the Viper as well. They are
needed for the Sun 1/2" tape drive to select write density. Read density
selection is also automatic on that drive.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com (Bob Ashley)
Subject: xvnews vs. xrn ...
Reply-To: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com
Organization: GTE Federal Systems Division
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:53:14 GMT

In article 5003@fulcrum.oz.au, paulr@fulcrum.oz.au (Paul Rosham) writes:
>In <JDELL.92Sep26173131@nefertiti.mit.edu> jdell@nefertiti.mit.edu (John Ellithorpe) writes:
>
>>> Are there any graphical interfaces to read news on a Sun SparcStation 
>>> running OpenWindows 3.0?
>
>>You could use xrn.  It's fairly simple and I think you should be able to find
>>it on export.lcs.mit.edu.  Also, if you like emacs, I would recommend gnus.
>
>xvnews is in the same place - its also OPEN LOOK
>

I have run both on O/W 3.0 ... and found "xvnews" to be much more easier to
use.  Highly recommend ...


Bob - just my opinion, of course    :-)

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From: brianc@cgl.ucsf.edu (Brian Colfer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Word Perfect 5.1 experience ?
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:32:27 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Joachim Wiesel Ext. 2316 (wiesel@ipf.bau-verm.uni-karlsruhe.de) wrote:
: After having seen a demo of WP 5.1 running under OW3 I was very impressed
: by it's features, but demos are demos ...
: So, is there any experience with WP5.1 on SparcStations? 

I use it on a sparc but in character mode.

: Pros and cons?

Pros: It is fast and flexible and it will do the job for a reasonable price.  
      It is easy to learn and is packed with features.  Especailly the
	  table maker does a very nice job.

Cons: Sometimes the screen and the document get out of sync and causes
	  big problems ... I find this only happens when I try to do some
	  very weird and complicated things... 

Overall a big pro.

: What about cross platform compatibility, especially with the MS-Windows version?

The documents themselves are completely compatible with the DOS.  So
it must be as compatible as the DOS and Windows versions are compatible.

: Network printing  to PostScript printers? Sharing of files via PC-NFS (PC-TCP Plus)?

Since you can run it right through the UNIX spooler it shoudl work
just fine... even with NeWSPrint.

: Any hints apprciated.


I've heard that the X version is slow... 

: Joachim
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: mat@unh.edu (Mike Thomas)
Subject: WANTED: PATCH to fix SunOS 4.1.1 > 1gig Disk Problem
Organization: /home/mat/.organization
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:10:46 GMT


I have a Maxtor Panther 1.7 gig drive and I have a Sun 3/280 running
SunOS 4.1.1.  I need the PATCH that fixes the OS problem of disks
greater than (about) 1gig.  So far everyone that has replied to my
previous message has only the patch for Sun4's unfortunately!!  (My
thanks go out for their help) Right now my disk is operating fine,
but I'm only using (about) 700meg.

I'm will to pay to get the patch or pay to have some group (maybe
in sun) impliment the fix...

Thanks in advance,
Mike Thomas
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From: dhughes@bnr.ca (David Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: AnswerBook: strange file sizes
Keywords: AnswerBook file size
Date: 29 Sep 92 06:03:46 GMT
Reply-To: dhughes@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR Japan

Has anyone noticed what seems to be a discrepancy in the file sizes in the
AnswerBook/SysSoft1.3 directory.  I installed the AnswerBook with index files
on hard disk, but with the ps docs on CDROM.  Everything works fine, but when
I do a directory, ls reports enormous file sizes ...

.
.
.
-rw-r--r--  1 root      1420288 Sep  8 14:22 IPCINSTALL.pag
-rw-r--r--  1 root         4096 Sep  8 14:22 IPXINSTALL.dir
-rw-r--r--  1 root      4039680 Sep  8 14:22 IPXINSTALL.pag
-rw-r--r--  1 root         4096 Sep  8 14:23 NETP.dir
-rw-r--r--  1 root      7724032 Sep  8 14:23 NETP.pag
-rw-r--r--  1 root         4096 Sep  8 14:25 NEWS3PGUIDE.dir
-rw-r--r--  1 root      4156416 Sep  8 14:25 NEWS3PGUIDE.pag
-rw-r--r--  1 root         4096 Sep  8 14:26 NMANGD.dir
-rw-r--r--  1 root      1011712 Sep  8 14:26 NMANGD.pag
-rw-r--r--  1 root         4096 Sep  8 14:26 OLITREFMAN.dir
-rw-r--r--  1 root       459776 Sep  8 14:26 OLITREFMAN.pag
-rw-r--r--  1 root        57344 Sep  8 14:30 OLSPEC.dir
-rw-r--r--  1 root     442217472 Sep  8 14:30 OLSPEC.pag
-rw-r--r--  1 root         4096 Sep  8 14:31 OLSTYLE.dir
-rw-r--r--  1 root      6557696 Sep  8 14:31 OLSTYLE.pag
-rw-r--r--  1 root         4096 Sep  8 14:32 OREILLY0.dir
-rw-r--r--  1 root      5982208 Sep  8 14:32 OREILLY0.pag
-rw-r--r--  1 root         4096 Sep  8 14:34 OREILLY1.dir
-rw-r--r--  1 root      8354816 Sep  8 14:34 OREILLY1.pag
.
.
.

These numbers can't be true - this partition is only 280 MB so where
is the file 442MB OLSPEC.pag ?  These sizes are reported even when
the cdrom is not mounted, and I can 'more' these huge files, without
the cdrom mounted.

AnswerBook works fine, and df reports sensible results so why do I care ?
Well, when I try to backup anthing containing this directory hierachy
with bar it takes up gigabytes!

Can anyone tell me what is wrong or what I don't understand ?

David.

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From: rrb@nch.norasia.COM (R.R.Buonanno)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Word Processing for OW
Keywords: Word Processors, WP, Frame, Island, Open Look
Date: 6 Oct 92 10:41:26 GMT
Reply-To: rrb@nch.norasia.COM
Organization: Norasia Shipping Services SA

Hi netters.

What is net opinion on Word Processors for Sun and OW?

Let me explain my slant on this...
We are intending to provide a turnkey system to our customers. Our
customers are actually part of our company (mostly) or very closely
related companies (but that really doesn't matter). The system will
consist of a s/w package which we are writing plus a bunch of store-
bought stuff (like Lotus and the DeskSet) to provide a complete and
(theoretically) uniform user interface.
Our problem is a Word Processor. We need something more than a text
editor but not much more. Basically something which does bold, underline,
a tiny bit of page formatting and not much else is required. Cost is
a big consideration as we may be shipping 400 or so units. We also
prefer something Open Lookish since we're going with OW and we're
trying to present a uniform user interface.

troff and TeX kinds of things are out, i.e. it has to be WYSIWYG (well,
more or less). We can't ask our users to learn any sort of formatting
language.

Framemaker is obviously overkill (and expensive to boot) although we do
use it for Doc development.

I've watched the discussion on Word Perfect, which seems to confirm my
suspicions that it suffers from Quick-Let's-Port-this-Sucker-for-the-
Workstation-Market disease.

What are the other candidates?

Island Write? We only seem to be able to get it with Paint and Draw
included so the price is a bit higher than we'd like.

Roll your own? We're understaffed as it is.

Any PD stuff out there that I haven't heard about? The Andrew stuff has
already been ruled out.

All discussion, opinions and flames are welcome. I want to know what's
available and what's good and bad about what's available. We've got to
choose something and if it's going to be the best of the worst then I
want to know it.

Thanks all.
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From: dclunie@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au (David Clunie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Graphical News Reader for OpenWindows?
Keywords: OpenWindows,read news
Date: 27 Sep 92 14:14:26 GMT
Organization: Her Master's Voice
NNTP-Posting-Host: sirius.itd.adelaide.edu.au

In article <Bv7D5u.BHH@news.cso.uiuc.edu> gthiruva@ih-nxt09.cso.uiuc.edu (George Thiruvathukal) writes:
>
>Are there any graphical interfaces to read news on a Sun SparcStation 
>running OpenWindows 3.0?



Try xvnews ... I love it ... though I haven't tried xrn. I can't
remember where I got it but it is probably in the X11 contribs. if
not I'm sure archie will tell you !

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From: exujpl@exu.ericsson.se (Peder Lindkvist, EXU, x1221)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Playing real CD's...
Date: 25 Sep 92 23:13:15 GMT
Reply-To: exujpl@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson in North America.
              The opinions expressed are strictly those of the user and
              not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article 14795@auspex-gw.auspex.com, guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) writes:
>>There is a sunview tool called cdplayer that plays music CDs.
>
>And there's also an XView tool called "x_cdplayer" in "/usr/demo/CDROM",
>along with "cdplayer", if you have a sufficient recent SunOS 4.1[.x]
>release and had the "Demo" software category installed.  Given that the
>person mentioned Open Windows, they're probably more interested in X
>programs such as "x_cdplayer" than in SunView programs.


The best I've seen so far for OW3 is WorkMan by Steven Grimm.
/Peder
From: dj@godot.co.uk (DJ Walker-Morgan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Playing real CD's...
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:58:38 GMT
Reply-To: dj@godot.co.uk
Organization: MicroMuse - The SPARC dudes

Or if you want the best, look in alt.sources for WorkMan.... Plays your CD's
catalogues em, identifies them and comes WITH the kitchen sink....

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From: mjb@icestation.Eng.Sun.COM (Mike Bundschuh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: PRINTTOOL - no printers found in /etc/print
Date: 28 Sep 1992 17:25:29 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mjb@icestation.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: icestation

	In article 2EH, Katherine Bouton writes:

	Question

	when i try to use printtool - errot message no printers 
	found in /etc/printcap comes up.

	I know that's not true because if i do a lpr from a command line
	it prints just fine.

Try reformatting your /etc/printcap file to follow the suggested format
as described in the "printcap" man page.  The printtool is parsing that
file, and can be confused easily if you do not follow a standard format.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: jdell@nefertiti.mit.edu (John Ellithorpe)
Subject: Re: Graphical News Reader for OpenWindows?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 22:31:31 GMT

On 26 Sep 92 20:34:41 GMT, gthiruva@ih-nxt09.cso.uiuc.edu (George Thiruvathukal) said:


> Are there any graphical interfaces to read news on a Sun SparcStation 
> running OpenWindows 3.0?

> Please reply to gkt@iitmax.iit.edu. A summary will be posted, assuming 
> there is a response.

You could use xrn.  It's fairly simple and I think you should be able to find
it on export.lcs.mit.edu.  Also, if you like emacs, I would recommend gnus.

John
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: rodney@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Rodney Campbell)
Subject: Re: GIF Viewer for Sun/
Keywords: GIF View Sun
Organization: AOTC - CSSC
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 05:19:34 GMT

adam@cs.curtin.edu.au (Adam Sawyer) writes:

>Could anyone tell me if there is a GIF or JPEG viewer for Sun Sparcstations?
>Thanks!
>adam@marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au

You could try one of xgif, xloadimage and xv which can all view GIF (and a
number of other image types).

		      						Rodney...
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