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From: rayr@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Tribe Of Quest [INFPMBTI])
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: FIL-AMS
Date: 24 Jan 1993 13:13:09 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


Ah...couldn't keep quiet either.  Actually, I was going to post 
something about this subject but couldn't bring it up.  Here goes:

In article <1993Jan21.080737.6533@schbbs.mot.com>, 
R11334@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Cycle-Time-Sys Sh-Shuy) writes:
> linked with a Spanish colonial heritage and whose popular culture is
> unmistakably American influenced.
> One would think that there is no Filipino culture to speak of, in the first
> place.  This is the reason they have earned the monicker 'brown Americans'.

  IMO, there is little Filipino culture to speak of - it seems to 
me that being Filipino boils down to lumpia (loo-pia) and 
tinikling.  Perhaps we have to build on that.  If we had a strong 
culture, I would think that we would be more united.  There are 
large concentrations of Filipinos in Daly City, Hercules, and 
Vallejo yet we don't have many elected officials. Why?

sedayao@sousa.intel.com (Jeff Sedayao) writes:
>They have a skewed sample.  Stanford, as an elite, expensive
>private school, has a different set of Filipino Americans than a 
>public school would.  Drastically different.

  I'm in UC Santa Cruz.  It's public.  I would say that there are 
a lot of confused young Filipinos out there (including me).  I 
don't know enough Philippine history - I don't really know what 
Jose Rizal did and why he's so great; I don't know who the 
Katipuneros (KKK?) are; I don't know why the capital is in Luzon 
and why Tagalog is the national language instead of say, Cebuano 
or Visaya...

mfrancis@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (Ma. Elena Y. Francisco) writes:
>I definitely disagree with this!  My relatives, when coming over from
>the Philippines for the first time, experienced a lot of culture shock.

  When I came here 7 years ago (after I graduated elementary 
school) I did have to adjust some.  Most of the adjusting was to 
deal with my junior high classmates who I considered very immature 
(probably because I thought that I should be in high school).  The 
second hardest thing I had to deal with was understanding American 
English.  Sure they teach you English in the Philippines but you 
didn't have to use it in everyday life.  My elementary school (had 
to be private - the only decent public school there is U.P. Elem. 
School) tried to make us speak English while in school but never 
did work.

>My parents were discouraged from continuing to teach me Tagalog when
>I was younger.  The teachers took my parents aside and said, "Your
>daughter will never make it to college unless you speak English to her
>in your home."

  Hmmm... I guess it's good that my parents still talks in Tagalog 
at home.  Although they usually expect a response from me in 
English or Taglish.

-----
ray
rayr@ucscb.ucsc.edu
Bakit kumokuot ang ulo mong ganyan?
Oh, and I ain't related to Lolo Fidel :)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: labson@borneo.corp.sgi.com (Joel Labson)
Subject: Green joke
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:57:51 GMT

I saw this joke in soc.penpal....

What do you call a Roman with a hair between his teeth ?????

Answer: Glad-he-ate-her      (somtimes called Gladiator)


Keep the jokes coming !!!!!!!

--
From: tito@ocf.berkeley.edu (Tito Domine)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Cont'd - PLDT Monopoly
Date: 23 Jan 1993 23:27:03 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

	In Article 7826 of soc.culture.filipino:
<samk@microsoft.com (Sam Kho) > writes :

>>	That is why you can't install a phone in the Phils that is not
>>PLDT's (i.e Siemens).
>>	At&T has virtuallyo presence in this industry. It is easily
>>worth about half a billion dollars a year.
>>	Ramos is certainly closer to the US industrial complex than to
>>Germany's.
>>	Could it be that this is AT&T's bid, through Ramos, to break
>>Siemen's hold on the Phil telephone market ?
>>	Interesting speculation....
>>
>>tito
>>

>even IF it is AT&T's bid, competition between 2 firms is still better than
>non-competition among one.

> - sam -

	Agreed, IF regulations were structured so as to prevent collusion
among the two or more firms allowed to do business in this area.
	Such a collusion, in economics, is called oligopolistic competition.
Better than a monopoly, of course, but not that much better. A "cartel"
to you and me.
	The Philippines can gain some lessons from the break-up of At&T in
the '80's in the US.
	But what I'm really afraid of is that this is a move to replace one
monopoly with another.

tito
From: v128rsza@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Kage)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Exchange rate?
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:18:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	I've read in the newspapers that the peso is 25 to a dollar.  Wasn't it
just 30 something to 1 dollar a while ago.  If so,  Why did it go down a by a
lot? 

	I also read that the Taiwanese dollar is 1 to .99 peso.  This means
the peso is higher, right?  If this is so, then why is Taiwan's economy so much
better than ours.  

	Any economic majors who want to enlighten me on this?

	Thanks...

							Kage
From: labson@borneo.corp.sgi.com (Joel Labson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Beauty contestant???
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:51:35 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

Awhile back, somebody posted a jokes about names of some of the beauty
pageant contestants....I only remember one name....

Miss Japan = Kikiko Makuto

I need that list of names so badly....so if anybody saved a copy of that
file please e-mail me a copy.. THANKS....
-- 

I also need a copy of the poem (don't remember the title but the first
line goes like this...) "Buti pa ang kalendario may date....."

and I'm still waiting for the old adventure of kiko and kikay.......

I promised this time I will file them!!!!!!!! - joel
From: tito@ocf.berkeley.edu (Tito Domine)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Cont'd - AT&T & PLDT
Date: 23 Jan 1993 23:32:13 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

	In Article 7825 of soc.culture.filipino:
<rick.sanchez@EBay.Sun.COM (Rick Sanchez) > writes :

>tito@ocf.berkeley.edu (Tito Domine) writes... 

>>>....
>>>At&T has virtuallyo presence in this industry. It is easily
>>>worth about half a billion dollars a year
 
>We missed you along absence, Pareng Tito.

	Puno ng trabaho, Pareng Rick !

>Anyway I agree with you that AT&T has very little or totally no presence
>in the Philippine telecommunication industry. But AT&T and PLDT are among
>the members of a consortium that will install the trans Pacific fiber
>Optic to replace the aging TransPacific Cable.

>The consortium was set-up long before the election of Pres. Ramos.

	That's right and good input, pare.

tito


Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: pacs@leland.Stanford.EDU (Francisco Sandejas)
Subject: SFO: repost on meeting with date. DATABASE&TALKS
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 01:56:48 GMT

Hello Folks!

Some of us at SFO want to join up with the some of the members
of the STAC information technologies group and with the people
from CAL Berkeley, to come up with a human resource database. 
We will be building on the idea of Vic Ilag and others 
on the net. Also, we will be organizing talks 
in the Bay Area to serve as a forum for networking and for 
coming up with new venture ideas.

SFO (Stanford Filipino Organization) is evolving into an 
entrepreneurial club which will not be limited to Stanford 
students nor to Filipinos. The sole requirement is that you be 
interested in helping  improve technology in the Philippines. 
The least we will ask of people is that they fill up our 
information sheet, to be used for our human resource database.  
This will be used to attract investors and to also help in 
placing your brilliant minds in ventures that will be most 
exciting, that is if you are interested.

SO FOR EVERYONE INTERESTED IN HELPING GETTING THIS DATABASE 
AND SPEAKERS' FORUM ORGANIZED, PLEASE COME TO THE ORGANIZATIONAL 
MEETING. WE WILL MEET THIS FRIDAY JAN 29, 1993 AT  6 P.M. 
IN FRONT OF THE MAIN QUADRANGLE OF STANFORD AND 
GO OUT FOR A KKB* DINNER. PLEASE REPLY AND TELL ME 
IF YOU ARE COMING SO WE CAN RESERVE AT THAI CITY. (dinner cost 
will be about $9). 

Those of you who come can help in baptizing the  new group if 
you object to "SFO". We know CAL people will be with us, too. So,
people like Ceo, Aimee and Eric should show up
to prove that this is not an elitist Stanford thing.  We will
condescend to the masses... just kidding.
Seriously, we would like to form a group with representatives
from everywhere: STAC-IT, CAL, Pinoys in the Valley, etc.
That's the only way this will work. 

*KKB = KANYA KANYANG BAYAD.






Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: jcruz@etch-eshop.Berkeley.EDU (Joey Cruz)
Subject: more pinoy joke
Keywords: Bato bato sa langit tamaan huag magagalit......
Reply-To: jcruz@etch-eshop.Berkeley.EDU (Joey Cruz)
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:28:49 GMT

Here's another joke coming from yours truly. This is really
an Enlish joke translated to Tagalog.

Sa isang marangyang tahanan ay maririnig ang boses nang batang
batang biyuda na sa Donia Kikay, kausap ang kanyang katiwala (Butler)

Makinig po tayo ....

Do~na Kikay sa Katiwala (Butler): Puede ba Basyong pakihubad ang jacket ko..
        Basyong: Nahubad na po senyora Kikay 
      Do~na Kikay: Puede ba Basyong pakihubad ang blusa ko?
        Basyong : Nahubad na po Senyoyra Kikay..
       Do~na Kikay: Puede ba Basyong pakihubad ang palda ko?
        Basyong : Nahubad na po Senyora...
       Do~na Kikay: Pakitanggal lang ang BRA Basyong
        Basyong :  Tanggal no po Senyora
       Do~na Kikay: BASYONG hubarin ang PANTY ko P L E A S E ! !!
        Basyong : Hubad na hubad na po senioraaaa...

       Do~na Kikay : BASYONG TANDAAN MO ITO, SA SUSUNOD NA MAHULI
                     KITANG GINGAMIT MO ANG DAMIT KO  AY SISANTE
                     KA GAGO.......
-==-=-=============================================================----

FYI= FOR THE SF BAY AREA VIEWERS CHANNEL 26 HAVE A FILIPINO NIGHTLY
NEWS FROM 6:00PM TO 7:00PM.

I'LL be back.............



Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: ERIKB@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Exchange rate?
Organization: Yale University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 18:56:54 EST

In article <C1F3wE.2vM@acsu.buffalo.edu>
v128rsza@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Kage) writes:
 
>
>
>	I've read in the newspapers that the peso is 25 to a dollar.  Wasn't it
>just 30 something to 1 dollar a while ago.  If so,  Why did it go down a by a
>lot?
>
>	I also read that the Taiwanese dollar is 1 to .99 peso.  This means
>the peso is higher, right?  If this is so, then why is Taiwan's economy so much
>better than ours.
>
>	Any economic majors who want to enlighten me on this?
>
>	Thanks...
>
>							Kage
If my memory is correct, the US$ rose to 32P=$1 in Xmas, 1990.  It rose due to
speculation since inflation was higher in the Philippines (than in the US) and
there was little faith in the Filippine economy.  But since it was
specualtion, the bubble burst and the Peso Strengthened, rising to 28P=$1 and
to 25P=$1 after a while.  I think that there was a feeling that the
Philippines was not a complete basket case (the stock market rose, as well)
and also interest rates in the RP was kept quite high, so a lot of money
flowed to the Philippines to buy T-bills and stock.
 
Also, Ramos ended all exchange controls, which probably made it easier for
investors to bring back dollars into the country since they now felt that
could easily convert their investments into dollars, if necessary..
 
Yes, there is high finance even in the Philippines.
 
Erik Bloom
From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Ramos Meets with PAL Owners
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:43:37 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	MANILA, Philippines (UPI) -- President Fidel Ramos met privately with
key players involved in a struggle for ownership of Philippine Airlines
and urged them to settle the dispute before it damaged the nation's flag
carrier, his spokeswoman said Thursday.
	The fight, which emerged only last week, involves telecommunications
czar Antonio Cojuangco Jr. and tobacco businessman Lucio Tan, a former
close associate of former Philippine president Ferdinand Marcos.
	It threatens financing of ambitious expansion at recently-privatized
PAL, including a possible delay in the purchase of four Boeing Co. 474
jetliners. It also is an embarrassment for Manila's privatization
program, which was designed to freeze out former Marcos allies, and
could damage investor confidence in the country.
	Annabelle Abaya said during a two-hour meeting late Wednesday Ramos
called on both sides to settle the dispute quickly in a way that ``would
not impair the viability and credibility of'' the airline.
	``The president said that he would like to have this problem solved
at all cost because he is not going to allow PAL to suffer,'' Abaya
said.
	She said Ramos appointed Gabriel Singson, head of state-controlled
Philippine National Bank, to help broker a resolution between the two
sides.
	Cojuangco, head of Philippine Long Distance Telephone Co. and a
relative of former president Corazon Aquino, last year led a consortium
that bought 67 percent of PAL from the government for $368.7 million.
	The sale was the country's largest privatization effort on record and
encouraged the debt-strapped government to push several other
privatization projects forward
	However, unknown to the government or apparently to other investors,
Tan secretly bought 40 percent of the consortium, PR Holdings, or 27
percent of PAL, through Cojuangco.
	The two had a falling out, reportedly because Cojuangco did not
consult Tan on major expansion plans, including ordering $1.6 billion in
jetliners.
	Tan launched a campaign earlier this month to wrest control of the
company from Cojuangco.
	Reports surfaced Wednesday that he had agreed to sell his shares in
PR Holdings back to Cojuangco. Neither side would confirm or deny the
reports.
	The government, which remains the largest PAL share holder, has said
it does not want to choose sides in the battle.
	Analysts say Tan's emergence as a major PAL stock holder could shake
investor confidence in the Philippines because it is seen by some as a
sign that other major industries could slip back under the control of
insiders who ran the country under Marcos.
	Marcos was toppled in 1986, after allegedly looting billions of
dollars from the country during his 20-year rule. He died in exile in
1989.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: an7762@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Joke
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.filipino
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:31:56 GMT

>In article <1993Jan27.202336.12858@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> jcruz@etch-eshop.Berkeley.EDU (Joey Cruz) writes:
>>Here's another one for you...
>>If Silla / Chair is SALONG PUWET in Tagalog then
>>BRA is (bahala ka nang sumagot)
>
>Eh, ano naman ang "brief" sa tagalog?
>
>SALONGANISA :-)

	I think maybe it should be SA-LONG-GANISA.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: creps@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Stephen A. Creps)
Subject: Re: Repost of previous post in response to earlier post
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:37:47 GMT

>From: ericag@ecst.csuchico.edu (Eric A. Gutierrez)
>Subject: The Apostasy, Last Days, Armagedon, and the coming of the Kingdom...

>My religion as promised to JJ and Tony:  Roman Catholic.

   Pardon me, but although the writer of what follows in this post
claims to be Roman Catholic, what he writes is in no way Catholic
belief.

>Summary of the Apostasy [more details to follow, see part 1-6]
>
>  1.  The Trinity Doctrine is NOT a Bible teaching,
>      it started in the 4th century, and with much OPPOSITION to it,
>      finally sank into Christendom sometime in the 11th Century.
>      A.Kashko, and show that what the Bible says CANNOT accomodate

>  2.  The worship of Mary - If Mary is the mother of God, don't you think
>      she should then be part of the Trinity? Father, Mother, Son, Holy Spirit.
>  3.  The concept of an immortal soul, that is when we die, we go to heaven
>      or hell.  What the Bible says is quite the opposite.  I will show that
>      soon, because this concept will NOT fit the Bible teaching of
>      the Resurrection.  The bottom line is:  When we die, we DIE...all we

>  4. Others:  Images, mediators, tradition, the persecution in the R.Catholic
>     Church...

  What it looks to me is that the author is not Catholic at all, but
some sort of Arian, i.e. Jehovah's Witness or some such.  I have no
idea why the claim of being Catholic.

-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Steve Creps, Indiana University
creps@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
From: sobejana@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Regina Sobejana)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Joke Time
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:49:17 GMT
Organization: Bill & Dave's Garage
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

here's pandag-dag for "Buti Pa Siya" poem:

from: labson@borneo.corp.sgi.com (Joel Labson):

  Buti pa ang Relo, may Oras para sa iyo...
      ...yung ibang talo, wala.

from my Brother, Divino, para sa mga "birhen" daw:

  Buti pa ang workstation ko, my "Ex-"
      ...ako ni minsan, wala.

another version:

  Buti pa ang workstation ko, kaibigan niya ang "Ex-" niya
      ...ako kahit ekis, wala.



-ginnie

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: rafatm@sage.cc.purdue.edu (unknown)
Subject: Re: Advice requested on what to see/do in Philippines
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:46:17 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.232920.8097@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>, hhs@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Sweetleaf) writes:
> 
> * Lake Taal (and volcano)
> * Baguio (I hear the rice terraces are very impressive)
> * I'm thinking of climbing Mt. Pulog
> * Hundred Islands
> * Puerto Galera
> * Boracay
> * Chocolate Hills

   How about the Banawe (sp?) rice terraces and Pagsanhan falls? You might also
want to visit Los Banos, home of Mt. Makiling (if you do go there be sure to
find out about the legend of Maria Makiling in advance).
From: george@scb1.larc.nasa.gov (George A. Tan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Internet Router for Philippines
Date: 24 Jan 1993 02:47:10 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: scb1.larc.nasa.gov
Keywords: Internet router, Philippines


Hi,
   Is there an Internet router for the Philippine ?  Is the Philippine
connected to the Internet ?  The last time I was in the Philippine, all
I saw was simple uucp type network.  Most of them are Local area type (
I am sure there are some WAN's).  Since the telecommunication systems in
the PI are monopolized, I wonder if the Philippine govt. has set up a
NIC type organization to promote national/international network.  I am
sure it will be next to impossible for private citizens to set up
international (even national) routers.  
   Anyway, I would love to receive some info on the state of data
communication in the Philippines.  I honestly think that PLDT should not
be given the telecommunication monopoly.  The breakup of AT&T should
teach the Philippine govt that competition is the way to go.  My cousins
in Manila has been trying to get a phone line for 14 months now, and
they are still waiting !  Around here we get upset if our local phone
company does not connect our new phone line in 24 hours.

Thanks 

George Tan
This is my own personal opinion. 
(If you think it is not mine, you are MISINFORMED !)
From: Elliott Parker <3ZLUFUR@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> (by way of gustilo@pobox.upenn.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: PH: New list: STAC-WG (forwarded from SEASIA-L)
Date: 28 Jan 1993 21:21:57 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

=======================  Forwarded  Message  ===========================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:53:52 CST
From:         Eng-Leong_Foo_MIRCEN-KI%MICFORUM@MICA.MIC.KI.SE
Subject:      NEW: STAC-WG Philippines Science and Technology Advisory Council

STAC-WG on LISTSERV@SEARN.SUNET.SE
        or LISTSERV@SEARN.BITNET

        Philippines Science and Technology Advisory Council

   STAC  (Science &  Technology Advisory  Council) composes  of expatriate
   Filipino  scientists,   professionals  and  their  colleagues   and  is
   organized by the Dept of  Foreign Affairs, Republic of the Philippines.
   STAC-WG is a mailing list for  the working group to prepare the project
   proposal for  the establishment  of STACnet.  The working group will,
   among others things, :
   (a)  develop STACnet objectives
   (b)  propose a network structure
   (c)  outline the status of email facilities and services in the
        Philippines
   (d)  provide an initial list of cooperating partners and participants
   (e)  identify key partners
   (f)  make a  proposal  of  selected activities,  which  may range  from
        network   support  (installation   of   computer  facilities   for
        communication, access and use of  existing facilities) to ideas on
        how to use STACnet to support existing development programs of the
        Philippines.

   Dr. Federico M Macaranas coordinates this programme which has a central
   focus is to use expatriate resources in key development programs of the
   country.  STACs  members  thus  monitor  scientific  and  technological
   developments  abroad, facilitate  technology transfer  and may  perform
   consultancies or  provide assistance to  public and private  sectors in
   the  Philippines.  Several  STACs  have been  established  abroad.  The
   proposed STACnet would serve as the electronic arm of the STAC network.
   It will  be a network  of people who can  communicate by email  and its
   primary goal would be to  fortify the existing organizational structure
   of STAC and its activities.

   MEMBERSHIP:
   To become a  member of the list,  please send your request  to the list
   owner and kindly include information on  your interests and how you may
   contribute to the establishment of STACnet.

   List Owner:   Eng-Leong_Foo_MIRCEN-KI%MICFORUM@MICA.MIC.KI.SE
      Eng-Leong Foo
      Director, Unesco Microbial Resources Center
      Karolinska Institute, 10401 Stockholm, Sweden
      Phone: 46-8-7287145    Fax: 46-8-331547


Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: pacs@leland.Stanford.EDU (Francisco Sandejas)
Subject: SFO: database&speaker group meeting now 6:45pm this fri
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 20:09:42 GMT

The group for the database and speakers' forum projects
will meet this friday at 6:45 p.m. in front of the Main Quad of
Stanford (just go straight up University Ave/Palm Dr
from Palo Alto) and have dinner at Thai City at about 7p.m.
Hope that's better for all.

paco