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From: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Subject: Re: Need Help Installing Powerpoint
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Organization: Techn. Univ. Clausthal
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:28:15 GMT

In <1993Jan6.092658.7819@cam-orl.co.uk> thg@cam-orl.co.uk (Tim Glauert) writes:
>I can't seem to install PowerPoint 3.0 on NT because the installation program
>crashes. Since I have an NT-only machine, I can't install it from Windows 3.1.
>Is there is work-around for this? If not, how do I install DOS and Windows on
>a machine that is already configured for NT?

Quite easy, if you have the primary partition from the first disk drive
formatted with FAT. In this case make a copy of the Boot-Sector (logical
sector 0) with Norton-Utilities or similar. Then install DOS and Windows
just as normal. Insert the line "C:\ = MS-DOS" into BOOT.INI and copy
your saved boot-sector back to logical sector 0.

If your primary partition on the first drive is not FAT, you have to
reformat it and thus loosing all the data on it.

Christoph
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: mcdan@berlioz.nsc.com (Eric McDaniel)
Subject: Re: NT not multiuser, then Unix is not a competing OS
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation, Santa Clara
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:31:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.190010.5522@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) writes:
>
>So, when you walk up to a NT machine, do you log on?
Yes.  Assuming you remembered to log off last time.

>Can you log on from remote machines while someone else is logged on
>to the console?
This is promised in the final release, but as of the October 1992 beta,
it is disabled.

>Does NT have a "command line"?
Yes, if you count the "DOS emulation" window.

>Does the filesystem have user ownership / execute / read / write
>permissions?
Yes / yes / yes / yes.  In addition to separate delete and change
ownership permissions.  This applies only to NTFS volumes; there is
no security for FAT volumes.

>I'm just wondering; I haven't seen NT yet.
>
>Gary Ritchie

Eric McDaniel
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: martin@iastate.edu (Martin R Calsyn)
Subject: Re: Undocumented API calls
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:04:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan1.201315.9933@solaris.rz.tu-clausthal.de> hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter) writes:
>
>The calls for doing so are in NETAPI.DLL. Unfortunately there are no header
>files (*.H) for the LANMAN-Calls in the October-Release. I am also desperately
>desiring them.
>

MS just uploaded something billed as the LMAPI (Lan Manager API) to
Compuserve (MSWIN32 forum).  I haven't had time to download it yet but
the description indicated that it contained docs, headers, and related
SW.  I'll check it out tonight and follow up if it appears interesting.

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From: lmebold@csghsg5a.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: WindowsNT: something like smartdrive?
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:10:30 GMT
Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland

Hi

Is there a software-driver like smartdrive in windows 3.1 for WinNT?
If so - does anyone know, wheter a cache-controller or the software-
solution is faster running WinNT?
As long as you run DOS/Windows it seems to be better to have a
uncached-controller and using smartdrive instead.

Any ideas?

Luke               

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: wales@ringss.enet.dec.com (David Wales)
Subject: Re: ATI VGA Wonder+ Driver for Windows NT
Reply-To: wales@ringss.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. Sydney Australia.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:22:27 GMT


G'Day,

In article <1993Jan04.111741.26997@wes.on.ca>,
tomh@wes.on.ca (Tom Haapanen) writes:

>Really?  I have an ATI Ultra with a Microsoft mouse plugged into its mouse
>port, and it works quite well with both the stock VGA/Inport drivers, and
>with ATI's beta drivers.  Is the VGA Wonder+ mouse port not the same?

	Although I have not seen the Ultra I believe that it's port is somewhat
more Microsoft compatible.  I think you can plug a standard Microsoft PS/2
style
mouse into the socket if you want but you can't do that with the VGA Wonder+
as it uses a slightly different connector.  Anyway, the simple fact of the 
matter is that even though Windows 3.1 will happily use the VGA Wonder+ port as
a Microsoft bus mouse Windows NT refuses to do so.

David.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: das@evita.ils.com (David A. Scott)
Subject: Driver needed for Intel EtherExpress16
Organization: interLogic Software, Inc., Pittsburgh, PA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 05:51:33 GMT


Hi,

I've got an Intel EtherExpress16 network card in a PC on which I want
to run NT.

All the others PCs have been working fine on the network, but I can't
seem to find a driver for this card.  Could someone direct me to where
I can find a driver?

Many thanks,


--dave;

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Subject: Re: ATI VGA Wonder+ Driver for Windows NT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Organization: Techn. Univ. Clausthal
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:32:17 GMT

In <1993Jan5.204712.23320@e2big.mko.dec.com> wales@ringss.enet.dec.com (David Wales) writes:
>>Have you tried IRQ2? At lease this works on my ATI Ultra, whereas IRQ5 did
>>not work.
>
>       Yes I have, in fact that is what the mouse port is normally set to on
>my system as it is the only IRQ free in the lower 8.   I know of others with
>the same card that have the same problem so I guess we'll just have to wait
>and see what ATI can come up with.

With their ATI Ultra drivers, they ship a new version of INPORT.SYS, maybe
you should try this INPORT.SYS with the VGA Wonder+ as well. However, if
I use the new INPORT.SYS, I can *NOT* use the mouse, I have to use the old
one, that comes with NT/g.

Christoph
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: TrevorL@ise.canberra.edu.au (Trevor Lawrence)
Subject: Re: NT not multiuser, then Unix is not a competing OS
Organization: Info Sci & Eng, University of Canberra, AUSTRALIA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 02:23:58 GMT
Newsreader: MS Windows NT WinVN

In article <C0p95w.7M5@news.iastate.edu>, martin@iastate.edu (Martin R Calsyn) says:
>
>.....
>
>I wouldn't be too sure about those telnet servers (telnetd) for NT.  I
>embarked on such a project, only to be thwarted.  If there's interest,
>I'll post the official reply from MicroSoft, but essentially, a crucial
>API call set is not available.
>
>When you log on through WINLOGON, you get an access token which is the
>basis for all further security interactions with NT.  That is, WINLOGON
>takes your cleartext username and password and produces an access token.
>
>In order to produce a true telnetd application giving you all of the
>same system, file, and network access rights, your telnetd must be able
>to accept a cleartext username and password and use them to obtain an
>access token.  WNetAddConnection2() accepts a name & password, but only
>gives you access to NT file shares -- it does not give you all of the
>security components necessary for generalized interactive computing.
>
>..... etc

This comment seems too important to let slip by. Its hard to believe!
I haven't tried to work in this area but I had assumed that the APIs that
work on SIDs were the appropriate ones. How does WinLogon create
the access token?

Anyone have any comments or info?



Trevor Lawrence

Faculty of Information Sciences and Engineering
University of Canberra, AUSTRALIA
From: f88hv@efd.lth.se (Henrik Vallgren)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Windows NT October Beta
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:44:03 GMT
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden

In article <1993Jan05.211145.13502@microsoft.com> dwightm@microsoft.com (Dwight Matheny) writes:
>Upgrades are sent automatically to everyone who has
>bought the SDK. No need to do anything.
>
>-Dwight (MS)
>Win32 SDK prod mgr

That is, if you don't live in a country where Microsoft "forgot" to
register the buyers of the JULY version.

Henrik Vallgren
f88hv@efd.lth.se
From: coffler@dbased.enet.dec.com (Jeff Coffler)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Backup under Windows NT
Date: 8 Jan 93 22:19:37 GMT
Reply-To: coffler@dbased.enet.dec.com (Jeff Coffler)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua, NH


In article <1993Jan8.143146.23709@solaris.rz.tu-clausthal.de>, hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter) writes:

|>I have an HP-35470A DAT tape connected to an Adaptec 1542b, which works
|>very well with Windows NT. What model do you have? I also have a
|>recompiled PYTHON.SYS driver, which doesn't check the tape model upon
|>installation. But I have to wait for an ok from MS, before I can make
|>this publically available.
|>

I have an HP-35480A DAT tape drive.  If your 35470 works, then I'm sure the
35480 will work too, with the recompiled PYTHON.SYS driver ...

Any chance of getting the recompiled PHTHON.SYS driver uploaded somewhere
that I can fetch it from?

Thanks ...
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From: bagwill@swe.ncsl.nist.gov (Bob Bagwill)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: how do you do automated GUI testing?
Date: 4 Jan 93 16:07:52 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


How does Microsoft (if they choose to respond) do automated testing
of the GUI aspect of their product?

How do "professional" Windows developers do automated testing of
their products?

I will summarize responses (if any).  If anyone is willing to
share information with me, but don't want it shared with the
net, put "PRIVATE" at the head of your response.

Warning: Don't send anything your lawyers don't want you to share.  And
remember that Internet email is not secure.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: AXEL@cip.physik.uni-stuttgart.de ()
Subject: Compatible 486-motherboards
Organization: CIP-Pool Physics Dept, University of Stuttgart, FRG
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 12:25:43 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Hi
as I have no Compuserve-access, I have to ask my question here, hope it helps.
To run NT I don`t need a new computer, but only a new motherboard, which are
not listed on the hardware-compatibility-list. I`m interested in a 
50 MHz 486 EISA motherboard with that upgrade-socket for the pentium. If you
can compare the performance of different motherboards, any hints would be
welcome.

Thanx a lot
 Axel


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Xref: sparky comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32:2774 comp.os.ms-windows.setup:2608
From: hajadi@goofy.csd.sgi.com (Ivan Hajadi)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32,comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Can I use this CD-ROM drive with Windows or NT ?
Date: 8 Jan 93 22:57:11 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA




I have (old?) Toshiba CD-ROM drive TXM-3201A1 which is collecting
dust.  Is there anyway I can buy a SCSI board for my PC, and use
this drive with Windows or NT ?

Is there any driver software somewhere I can get/buy for this drive ?

I hope I can save a couple hundred bucks, by not buying a new
CD-ROM drive.

Any info would be appreciated.  Thanks.


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From: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Subject: Re: NT C compiler
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16g by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Organization: Techn. Univ. Clausthal
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:30:32 GMT

In <1993Jan7.173215.17323@torsqnt.tor.sequent.com> hlpell@sequent.com (Howard Pell) writes:
>I just got NT in the mail (YEAAAA) and have a question that MS help desk
>cannot answer completely.
>
>Is the C/C++ compiler on the NT CD the same as 7.00?  Especially, if I run
>the compiler from DOS/Windows will it still generate 32-bit code, or will
>it generate 16-bit code?  Is there a flag/switch to turn OFF the 32-bit
>mode?
>
>MS help desk *claims/assumes* that it is a superset of 7.00 but cannot/will
>not give me a definite answer.
>
>Anyone really know?


The compiler is based on C7 technology, but it isn't the same compiler.
The C++ compiler comes with the MFC-Library, just like C7. But the
compiler can only produce 32-bit code and does not run under DOS.
It only runs under NT. You may try a new Phar-Lap product, that allows
to run a subset of NT-Character apps. under DOS. Maybe you can run
the compiler under this product.

In any case, you are not able to produce DOS or any other 16-bit code
with the compiler.

Christoph
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Internet: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de       | D-W-3550 Marburg
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From: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Subject: Error in NT CD-ROM (or CD-FS) driver
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Organization: Philipps-University Marburg
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:40:42 GMT

I have two CDs here containing PD/SW stuff for DOS and Windows 3.x. The
CD has a \CD3 directory and the \CD3 contains more than 400 subdirectories.
Under DOS and OS/2 I can read the CD fine. Under NT it only reads the first
49 (or 51 including . and ..) directories. The other directory simply seem
to be non-existant. I don't know, if the CD is in ISO-9660 or HSFS. Has anyone
else seen this or a similar problem? The CD-ROM is a Toshiba TXM-3301 connected
to an IBM-SCSI Adapter on a Model 90

Christoph
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Internet: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de       | D-W-3550 Marburg
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From: pjdm@chmeee.enet.dec.com (Peter Mayne)
Subject: Re: NT not multiuser, then Unix is not a competing OS
Reply-To: Peter.Mayne@cao.mts.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:12:54 GMT


In article <0T5DVB1w165w@gnct.com>, garyng@gnct.com (Gary Ng) writes:
>NT is not multiuser in the sense that it do not allow more than 1 person to
>logon and use it simultaneously(in the way one logon to unix or ibm mainframe).

Despite the fact that telnet servers have been/are being written for NT that
allow just that?

>NT is multiuser in the sense that it can act as a file server/database server 
>etc. since it has LM in the OS(though it is not working right now).

I must admit that I've never seen multiuser defined to mean "can file serve
more than one PC".
Not working? Windows for Workgroups works fine with it as far as I know.

One of these days I'll write an "Is NT Multiuser?" document.

PJDM
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: hallyb@globbo.enet.dec.com (John Hallyburton)
Subject: Renaming directories
Keywords: aviary
Organization: Twin Peaks Municipal Software Works
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:38:24 GMT


Is it possible to rename directories under NTFS?  File Manager gives an error
if one takes the obvious route (select a directory, click on rename, etc.)
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: yfwu@Uz.nthu.edu.tw (EE U780935)
Subject: How to put a job from fg to bg?
Organization: National Tsing Hua University (HsinChu)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 06:18:01 GMT

How can I put a program from foreground to background???? Like we do in UNIX?

Thanks

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From: jason@hal.eng.ufl.edu (Jason Nadrowski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Error with the error message
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:20:43 GMT
Organization: EE computer teaching labs

When I add a new user to NT and consequently assign a home directory;
w/o assigning a password (Password to be changed at next login is checked)
and then I hit ok; NT gives me an error message.  The only problem is that
the error message makes no sence.  I guess they were tying the error messages
in a little too fast...


jason@hal.eng.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: jls@teal.csn.org (Jerome L. Schneider)
Subject: Trantor SCSI drivers for NT uploaded to CICA
Keywords: SCSI Trantor NT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 08:26:27 GMT



Finally, the Trantor SCSI drivers for the Oct beta are available.  I
downloaded from their BBS (510 656-5159) the ZIP version and uploaded
it to CICA (ftp.cica.indiana.edu) in the pub/pc/win3/uploads dir.

Description from their BBS:

Filespec Ext # Bytes Upl Date CA Uploader
-------- --- ------- -------- -- ----------------------------------------------
NT-TSL   EXE   25588 12-24-92 TD Uploaded by Trantor Systems.
	 Windows NT drivers for the Trantor T128/T128F/T228, T130, and
	 T348 MiniSCSI Plus SCSI host adapter cards.  These drivers
	 allow you to use a Trantor SCSI host adapter as a secondary
	 adapter for any SCSI devices supported by Windows NT. This is a
	 self-extracting archive.  This release is for the October Beta.

NT-TSL1  ZIP   29719 12-24-92 TD Uploaded by Trantor Systems.
	 Windows NT drivers for the Trantor T128/T128F/T228, T130, and
	 T348 MiniSCSI Plus SCSI host adapter cards.  These drivers
	 allow you to use a Trantor SCSI host adapter as a secondary
	 adapter for any SCSI devices supported by Windows NT.  This file
	 contains the same files as NT-TSL.EXE, just packaged differently.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Subject: Re: Creating a DOS boot disk with NT installed
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16g by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Organization: Techn. Univ. Clausthal
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:26:10 GMT

In <726353151snz@chrism.demon.co.uk> chris@chrism.demon.co.uk (Chris Marriott) writes:
>I'm probably doing something stupid here, but I'd appreciate some help.
>I can't create a DOS boot disk now I have the NT "FlexBoot" bootloader
>installed on my system.  If I do a "format /s" I just a bootable disk
>which complains that it can't find "NTLDR".
>
>*How* do you create bootable floppy disks with NT installed?

Format it without the /s options and then do a SYS A: (or SYS B:)
command under DOS.

Christoph
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Christoph H. Hochstaetter, Philipps-University Marburg | Universitaetsstr. 25
Internet: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de       | D-W-3550 Marburg
Bitnet  : HOCHSTAE AT DMRHRZ11                         | Germany
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