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Date:         Fri, 25 Dec 1992 18:36:13 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      A Christmas present for Torkel
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I believe you were some time ago, asking about
rattle snake watermelons. I doubt that the following
would be of as much help as I initially thought it
would be, but it does have to do with the south.
I'm not sure, myself, what the references to watermelon
here are, but they have an ominousness.

from
    ALL AROUND THE WORLD
    OR
    THE MYTH OF FINGERPRINTS

    Words and Music by  Paul  Simon

    Well, the sun  gets  weary
    And the sun goes down
    Ever since the watermelon
    And the lights come up
    On the black pit town
    Somebody says what's a better thing
     to do
    Well, it's not just me
    And it's not just you
    This is all around the world

    It was the myth of fingerprints
    That's why we must learn to live alone
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 00:11:28 -0500
From:         Joan Boorstein <jboor@RA.CS.UMB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Question About Online Resources
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Natalie,
    I hope this info is still current.  There is another book like Krol's
Internet guide: Brendan Kehoe (Widener University) _Zen & Art of the Internet_
which was first made available on line.  A revised edition has been published
as a book, I believe. However, I believe the first edition is still online.
Here is the original announcement (dates from Feb 1992).  I picked up the
postscript version -- have found it most useful.  I don't recall if an
ASCII version was ever made available.

Joan

****************************
>          Zen and the Art of the Internet: A Beginner's Guide
>
> I'd like to announce the availability of the first edition of booklet
> that I hope will find a wide-spread audience.  It's called ``Zen and
> the Art of the Internet'', and serves as an introductory text to using
> the Internet in its various incarnations.  In approximately 100 pages,
> Zen addresses domain names, electronic mail, telnet and ftp, and a
> variety of other topics.  An extensive glossary and fairly decent
> bibliography are also included.
>
> This booklet explicitly avoids being oriented towards one specific
> operating system or computing environment.  It's not Unix-heavy, nor
> does it directly address VMS or any other OS.  Rather, it provides the
> fundamental concepts and ideas behind using the Internet, and leaves
> the specific details of command options and usage to the local site.
>
> Directors of academic computing services departments for universities
> and colleges are encouraged to make copies for their user communities;
> system administrators are welcome to offer it to their users, whether
> the system be private, commercial, or public; any companies in need of
> training or other educational literature may use this booklet as an
> aid; and, most of all, "normal users" [including those in libraryland! -- gw]
> are invited to use it to help expand their knowledge of the Internet and
> the possibilities it offers.  The author is keenly interested in hearing
> from anyone considering large distribution; if you're going to do such a
> thing, please drop me a line just to satisfy my curiosity.
>
> Now, how to get it:  Printed copies are currently unavailable (Widener
> has no mechanism to deal with this sort of publishing).  However, the
> guide will be available via anonymous FTP from a number of sites.  As of
> now, it's stored in three forms: a .tar.Z file (Unix-ites will know what
> to do with this), a .dvi file (output from the TeX typesetting system),
> and a .PS (Postscript) file on:
>
>         * ftp.cs.widener.edu in pub/zen
>
> as:       zen-1.0.tar.Z   }
>           zen-1.0.dvi     } pick your favorite format
>           zen-1.0.PS      }
>
> Thanks, and I hope you find it useful!  Brendan Kehoe <brendan@cs.widener.edu>
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 00:40:00 EST
From:         Tony Harminc <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Prof's revisited.
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Posted on 22 Dec 1992 at 20:04:08 by Graham Toal

>Tired of the sniping from up north and his refusal to give a straight
>answer to a straight question, I put a request on alt.usage.english for
>an explanation of 'professor' in Canada.  Here's the helpful answer
>I got from an echte Canadian.

Ah - now we know why Graham won't play TP: he'd fail the geography
section miserably.

Tony H.
(Presumably ersatz Canadian)
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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 10:52:57 EST
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Questions

Torkel,
  My choice for favorite candy in boxes is chocolate-covered cherries.

Evelyn
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Date: 27 Dec 1992 23:57:49 GMT
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In a previous article, ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU (Dan Lester) says:

>On Sun, 27 Dec 1992 05:08:45 GMT Ruth M. Hanschka said:
>>>    tonite friends coming over to play bridge....and tomorrow will do for
>>>office cleaning, won't it?
>>>
>>Yep - there's no day like tomorrow for cleaning stuff.
>>
>   riught on...and thats when it'll be....
>
That's the great thing about tomorrow - it never gets here...

>   gail is now scarfing up some frozen yogurt...and i'm full of junkfood while
>playing bridge....did have one great moment....i put a cd on the player down
>staris while gail was downstairs....and was trying to make it work....
>hadn't realized that someone had pushed the alternate speakers button....and
>there ARE no alternate speakers....so it was cranked with no sound coming out.
>and gail was just starting to steam the milk....and had read all the directions
>about dangers of steam and not blowing up the expresso maker....the fm was
>between stations....and i hit the speaker button in my oneeye mode....and
>it BLASTED static and noise.....and the fringes of a metalstation....

<ROFL>!  SHould have turned the volume down first, dude...:-)  You also should
have set the dial to a station before switching inputs....<LOL>  OUUUUUCH!
[and I thought a little feedback was bad....]

>and after a few seconds i got it shut off....but meanwhile our friends
>said 'is gail allright'???and i realized she was in the kitchen justabout
>passed out from fright....she was REALLY panicked....but i went out and
>picked her up from the edge of counter....and she came around....
>
>all is well now....and I THINK she can laugh about it now.....   8-)
>
If she can't, I can!  I shouldn't, maybe [it's not PC and it's inseneitive
to boot] but it *is* funny.  She probably looked like my cat when the toy 
train came chugging around the track...and goosed her.<grin>  We're talking
ten pounds of engine and about the same of cat...colliding...  Although why a
lousy blast of static would panic anyone, I don't know.  Me, it just sends
through the roof, holding my ears, as well as creating a true desire to
swat the perpetrator.:-)  Maybe I'm just weird?
-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
			- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
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Date:         Sun, 20 Dec 1992 13:56:00 CST
From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
 <TA0SHK1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Neologisms

:  And do you give extra marks for neat handwriting, Steve?

After a fashion, yes.  If I can't make sense out of it, it
probably loses points.

Steve Karlson

Go Packers!
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From: jthomas@netsys.com (Jim Thomas)
Subject: Re: Copacetic
Organization: Netsys Inc.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 05:27:56 GMT

In article <9301031328.AA17538@Ra.MsState.Edu> maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU (Natalie Maynor) writes:
>>   I hadn't seen this word before I came across it in Burke's book. My
>> sources seem to suggest that it's a bit dated. Is it in common use in the
>> South in particular?
>
>I wouldn't say that it's widely used, but I've never thought of it as
>particularly dated.  It probably shows up in writing more than in speech.

And don't forget the song with the chorus:
     Everthing is copacetic
     Down at Earl's Crab Joint....

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Date:         Sun, 27 Dec 1992 19:12:00 EST
From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Touchtones and Alternative Librarians
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> ggs, do you think the TOUCHTON might be a dumb idea?  Just wondered,
> as I am currently involved in installing a touchtone voice response system
> for our local Financial Aid Office and think it's a great idea.  We will
> be able to give much better service to our students.  The replies to many of
> a special trip to the financial aid office, or trying to reach a counselor
> on the phone (which is near impossible, when about 15,000 students try to
> call about 10 people all on the same day).  So, is it the list that is a bad
> idea, or the service?
>
> Just curious.

Just the idea of a list for this struck me as dumb, but not nearly
as *dumb* as a list for gay/lesbian/bisexual librarians.  Maybe the
touchton is not so dumb after all.  We use it for registration, and
it works like a veritable dream.
--ggs (who is back after six days of machine problems.... hi everybody)
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Help?! and Re: Happy New Year!
Date: 3 Jan 1993 04:29:27 GMT
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In a previous article, torkel@SICS.SE () says:

>  ><evil smile>  Good - maybe it will inspire some really *good* invective!
>
>  One of the few things even more boring than invective is inane prattling
>about how interesting good invective is. Also, expressions like "<evil
>smile>" irresistibly suggest to me a weak simper on the face of the person
>who produces them.
>
The only thing worse than a bore, is another bore commenting on how bad the
first one was.  Please keep your inane prattlings on the subject to yourself.
<so there><ptttttttbp>

And, re: nothing in particular, for anyone out there who has any ideas.....
As I tried to boot up my computer tonight, I got the following lovely little
error message. "Bad RAM at 2F1F7 = 20h, expected 00h"  It almost kept me
from dialing in and asking for help.:-(  What I want to know is what to do
about it...besides aborting the RAM check before it gets down that far, that
is....
It did it for the first time tonight - with no apparent provokation....
Of course, this thing is a Leading Edge '88, so it probably didn't need
any.:-(
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Follow-up to ALD's TP question
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>Why *do* the Italians call Munich the "Monaco of Bavaria"?  What's the
>correspondence?  All I can think of is "playground" or "fun city" or the
>like.  Why, you might as well call Tupelo the "Pittsburgh of Northeast
>Mississippi."
>
>brad

I know nothing about Munich, but I thought the reference was probably to
gambling casinos.... Is Munich the gambling capital of Central Europe?

Carolyn
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: squeaky wheels and perceptions of Americans
Originator: rita@eff.org
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:46:48 GMT

In article <Pine.3.03.9212211017.C2787-a100000@formby.tenet.edu> Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU> writes:
>On Mon, 21 Dec 1992, DOUGL, APPARENTLY. wrote:
>
>>   <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
>>   <->                        <->
>>   <-> Douglass St.Christian  <->        ______
>>   <-> Anthropology           <->        \    / This Tribe can
>>   <-> McMaster               <->         \  /  speak
>>   <-> Canada                 <->          \/   for itself
>>   <->                        <->
>>   <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
>
>Just in time for Christmas, a Newbie! Aaah, life is good...
>Fresh meat, anyone?

	Yes, but what IS it with the newbies and the horrendous .sigs
this year?  FOUR LINES people!  Ideally less.  Tacky tacky tacky to
have a .sig longer than the message itself.

(Posing as Emily Postnews)



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rita@eff.org                                                    eff@eff.org
CIS:70007,5621                                                (617)864-0665
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jan 1993 14:00:04 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: More songs about buildings and food
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> They came over from England with the Mayflower pilgrims?

Could be.  But I wonder why people in New England don't call them English.
What do you know about the background of English peas, Graham?  Explain to
him what they are, abh.  They don't strike me as Grahamesque food.  (I
realize that Graham isn't English.  I just thought he might know something
about them since he lives there now and grew up in the general neck of the
woods.)
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
     happy that the cheap kitchen and bathroom curtains she just washed
     didn't fall apart as cheap curtains often do when washed...
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Date:         Sun, 3 Jan 1993 19:41:19 EST
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: Copacetic
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              4 Jan 1993 00:32:20 GMT from <ap290@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>

I just wanted to say that AHD3 devotes one of its 400+ mini-essay Word
Histories to 'copacetic'.  It goes on for almost half a column, sifting
through the evidence for origins in Italian, southern Black, Creole
French, and Hebrew before concluding that there is no answer and referring
the reader to DARE.  Something else to check in DARE tomorrow in the
library when I go back to work.

brad
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Date:         Sat, 2 Jan 1993 20:37:35 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Football
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Isn't anybody else watching the Peach Bowl?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Questions
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>Aspirin (tm in some countries) is acetyl salicylic acid.  Wintergreen
>is the methyl ester of salicylic acid.  Looked at another way, start
>with salicylic acid and if you want aspirin, add vinegar; if you want
>wintergreen, add natural gas.  Opinion on whether chewing
>wintergreen mints helps a headache is mixed.

        But there's no question that a chewed wintergreen Lifesaver emits a
        small flash of light.  In a fabled All Things Considered report, Susan
        Stamberg and Ira Flatow locked themselves in a closet at NPR to
        demonstrate the phenomenon.

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From: kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey)
Subject: Re: Merry X
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 03:39:55 GMT

ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU writes:

>And here's the answer to my question about whether you learned anything
>in your absence or not.

I learned several things in my abscence, Karen:

1) The more civil members of this list tend to shy away from the flame
wars...I can't say I blame them.

2) Never post a controversial (read: non-PC) statement to the list unless
you want to be labelled List Asshole for life.

3) The most interesting and revealing words-l postings are the private
ones between list members, where I got to learn that not everyone in the
world automatically agrees with Karen Kay.

4) All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others. 
Marty can post a rude ad hominem attack, and he's just good ol' Marty.  I
respond in kind, and I'm just an obnoxious jerk.  Get a clue Karen, not
EVERYONE on this list agrees with everything you say, and I have plenty of
FRIENDS here too.

You've done nothing but attack me since I came back to the list, for no
reason whatsoever.  If you disagree with one of my opinions, fine; post a
reasonable rebuttal and we'll debate.  But can the personal crap; I'm not
the only one who's sick of it; I'm just the only one who's said it
publicly so far.  Words-L is the place where the weak get eaten, and I
have just as much right to bite as any of the rest of you.  If you don't
like ANYTHING I ever have to say, or just don't like me as a human being,
put me in your kill file and be donw with it.  Otherwise, start acting
like a civilized human being and stop the mudslinging.

--Aaron

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Date:         Sun, 3 Jan 1993 17:45:35 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Question About Online Resources
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> no, but its the best 24.95 you'll ever spend....especially since you're in
> a Unix environment....

Is there an online source for ordering it?  Does anybody know whether it's
available in one of CIS's bookstores?  Before I go wandering over to CIS
and start wildly ordering things, I would like to know that what I'm looking
for is there.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 00:33:01 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Deep beliefs
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        >  However, I can assure you there are those who will severely
        > assault a person if a subject is deemed "inappropriate" in their minds
.

        You don't need to assure me. I know. I think there is a role
        for something like a Speaker of the House.

Peter, you want to sit in judgement, do it in the privacy of your own
house, and God help your kids.

G
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:12:29 -0600
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: NO RESPONSE
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> Since I haven't heard from Ausbrook, I will move play on..... I have put his
> card aside and his turn will resume as soon as he surfaces on the list. It
> is now Nancy's turn to pick a category.
> Carolyn

I think I'll take history, Carolyn.  Sorry to be so long in
responding...I've been Christmas shopping all day.
ndh
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Date:         Sun, 3 Jan 1993 15:11:25 WET
From:         Fizzy the Fribble
              <fribble%rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk@KATE.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Moritce Locks
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              Jan 2, 93 2:49 pm

From the screen of 'Doris Smith'...
>
> What is a mortice lock?
>
> doris smith (dorisann@tenet.edu)
>

Its a lock that you lock with a mortice key.

Fiz.
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (73)
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        Shame on me.  I've taken to looking only for my own gleanings.  Until
        now, I had no idea there was a baseball one floating about.

>9)  Eddie Matthews:  He was a baseball player in the late fifties and
>sixties for the Detroit Tigers.  As a teenager I thought he was <so>
>good looking, and he was a good player also.

        Right on both counts, Doris.  Except that he was more than just a
        <good> player -- he's the next best thing to Mike Schmidt at third
        base.  They have very similar batting totals, but Schmitty's glove
        carries him to the very top of the all-time list of 3Bs.

>Dizzy Dean's "Wabash Cannonball":  Dizzy Dean was a baseball player turned
>sports announcer who narrated many major leage ball games.  He was a
>southerner and spoke like a "hick."  When nothing exciting was happening
>in a game he would burst into song, and "Wabash Cannonball" (about a
>train) was one of the songs he sang frequently.

        Really (the recently-departed) Roy Acuff's song, but Ol' Diz made it a
        trademark too.  Jay Hanna Dean was a flameballing righthander, the last
        National League hurler to win 30 games in a season, with the 1934 'Gas
        House Gang' Cardinals.  Diz's little brother Paul also pitched for the
        Cards.  In a doubleheader, Dizzy tossed a two-hit shutout in the opener
        and Paul did even better in the nightcap, no-hitting the opposition.
        Said Diz, "If I'd known Paul was gonna throw a no-hitter, I woulda done
        it too."  Once, he slid into a base and the throw from the outfield hit
        him right in the head; Diz was taken away on a stretcher.  The next
        day's newpaper headline was "Dean Knocked Cold, X-rays Reveal Nothing."
        Dean's playing career was cut short when Earl Averill's liner in the
        1937 All-Star Game broke his toe; by trying to come back too soon, he
        altered his delivery and injured his arm.

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