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From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Login Name Administration & Conventions
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
	<TNJWBXJ8@cc.swarthmore.edu> <79435@hydra.gatech.EDU>
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:05:33 GMT

GRS> == Glenn R. Stone <gs26@prism.gatech.EDU>

 GRS> That's what Tech is currently implementing.... aliases look like
 GRS> first.last@dept.gatech.edu, which is simply an entry in /etc/aliases
 GRS> on whatever machine "dept.gatech.edu" points at (this can be an MX or
 GRS> a real machine) that resolves things to where they really want to be.

 GRS> This isn't perfect; there's no real good way to rewrite the outgoing
 GRS> addresses (YP?  NOT!) even if you wanted to.... especially since this
 GRS> hasta work with POP on both Macs and PC's as well as Unix boxen.... 

You might try IDA sendmail; as long as the Macs and PCs send their mail
through the sendmail on their POP server, that one can be configured (with
xaliases) to rewrite, say, 'gs26@prism.gatech.edu' into
'Glenn.Stone@foo.gatech.edu' as it goes by.

Or the POP clients (at least Eudora) can just be configured to send out
addresses of the form 'First.Last@dept.gatech.edu' in the first place.
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From: ben@fizz.fdn.org (Benoit Grange)
Subject: I want a mail accounting package
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:53:00 GMT

Does a mail accounting package exists.

I would like to find a program that reads the syslog file produced by mail  
and produces a list of messages sent/recevied by people and the total  
received/sent size by people. This program must deal with mutilple  
recipients in order to be minimum accurate.

That 'program' may be awk/perl/c or other, i don't want to create  
something from sratch if an existing package fits my needs.

Please answer by e-mail AT ben@boson.epita.fr
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From: dan@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Dan Freedman)
Subject: Re: Batch processing in Unix
Organization: Freedman Sharp and Associates Inc.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:16:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.015324.22560@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> barryl@mongoose.tansu.com.au writes:
>Does anyone know of a decent batch processing software.

We have a product called "Load Balancer" that does network-wide batch
queueing and load balancing on Sun, SGI, HP, DEC, and IBM computers.
Please send e-mail or phone for more details, since I don't want to be
too commercial in this newsgroup ;-)

Dan Freedman, Director
Freedman Sharp and Associates Inc.
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
(403) 251 2729
dan@newt.cuc.ab.ca
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From: vulture@imperial.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau)
Subject: Re: How do you back up a terabyte?
Reply-To: cmaae47@imperial.ac.uk
Organization: Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 12:59:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.165300.13971@siswat.hou.tx.us>, buck@siswat.hou.tx.us (Lester Buck) writes:
- In article <1992Dec31.174549.677@mav.com> toddi@mav.com (Todd Inch) writes:
- >>Because users may change files while they are being backed up, and you may
- >>end up with an inconsistent copy on the tape - say a random access file is 
- >>keeping pointers to records at its end, and the data at the beginning.

Hey, that was me ...

- >And likewise two separate files may be interdependant, such as detail
- >and header records in a database, or a data file and its accompanying
- >hashed-key file.
- 
- Veritas sells a file system which supports creation of one file system
- which is an atomic snapshot of another file system.  The snapped
- filesystem is then free to change, though writes to it are slowed
- somewhat.  The only problem is to quiesce the applications for a moment
- while the snapshot is being made, maybe for a minute.  The Veritas file
- system is used in SVR4.2, I think.

I fear the "perfect, reliable backup" can no longer be achieved, shutting
down applications is not appropriate if they provide real time response.
Making snapshots of a file system can dump all closed files and a previous 
version of open ones, or flag them as needing further attention. The 
usefulness of such a backup set is doubtful. It also does not address file
interdependence.

You should give up the notion that there is such a thing as a verifyably
correct filesystem backup and go for a "reliable enough backup set". This
of course means that all serious applications have to cope with corrupted
information, just as filesystems (and backup procedures) try to cope with
disk failures.

                                    Thomas

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From: herb@iiasa.ac.at (Herb HASLER)
Subject: Re: Network Problems
Organization: IIASA, Laxenburg, Austria
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:52:06 GMT

Rex Fowler (rmfowler@landru.mtc.ti.com) wrote:
: In article <1993Jan5.124802.8428@iiasa.ac.at> herb@iiasa.ac.at (Herb HASLER) 
: writes:
:
: I saw the same problem about a year ago.  I'm not quite sure of the
: exact cause but swapping some ethernet cards and tranceivers seemed
: to have cured the problem.  What I did in the meantime was to add an
: entry to the routing tables of the 2 machines to route packets to
: each other through a machine they would both speak to.   By the
: way, my hardware was different than what you mention.

Yes, I tried this but the machines were too smart for their own good and
figured out they were on the same subnet and changed their routing tables
back (so they could talk for one packet only).  Is there a way to add a
route such that the system can not change it dynamically?
: 
: You might also check to see that trailers are turned off on all
: your network interfaces and netmasks are the same.

Yes, everything seems correct.  (the only difference is the DECstation has
the flag DYNPROTO set and I can not see how to turn this off, if it is
at all possible).   Using netstat I can see that the packets are getting
from the IBM to the DECstation but then being dropped as errors (either
block check errors or framing errors or both).  The only other variable is
a DESPR that just the DECstation sits off of.

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From: msp@msen.com (Jerry Foster)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Print graphics files
Date: 8 Jan 1993 21:37:11 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

We are looking for a simple command line utility that will print various
graphics files (tiff, dwg, dxf, etc.).  We are interested in commercial or
public domain.  We are running SCO Unix 3.2.4, with Hewlet Packard
laserjets and a deskjet color.  Anyone out there know of such a beast? 
Thanks in advance,

Jerry Foster

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From: vasco@bvl.pt (antonio vasconcelos)
Subject: Re: Hi, there:
Organization: Bolsa de Valores de Lisboa
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 23:58:51 GMT

: users on PC can still have open files via PC-NFS.  
: I believe this is a quite common
: dilemma for most sysadmin.

STOP NFS...
Well, I know thats not very polite, but just let your NFS users know
that at the hour X the system will be down for backup... Then, don't
take chances, do the backups in Single User Mode, if you are local
to the system, if you are not, just stop NFS and logins.


: 1. how dangerous to backup a partition ( dump ) with some file opening on it?  
:    could this only corrupt those files or the whole filesystem in some 
:    special case?

The whole file system ??? I don't think so (IMHO).

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From: glover@credit.erin.utoronto.ca (Mike Glover)
Subject: Re: Hardware maintenance for 486 running SCO UNIX
Keywords: maintenance
Organization: University of Toronto, Erindale Campus
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 05:09:11 GMT

In article <C0q1p1.89u@panix.com> nedwall@panix.com (Ned Wall) writes:
>The company I work for has purchased an AST Premium SE 4/50
>running SCO UNIX. My level of UNIX understanding would best
>be described as beginner (but willing to learn). Should I be
>looking for a hardware maintenance vendor with a UNIX back-
>ground or would a vendor from the PC/Novell world be OK?
>
>Our hardware consists of the AST with duplexed disk drives,
>tape backup, 2 16 port DigiBoards, 17 terminals and 3 PCs.
>
>Thank you.
>
>Ned Wall     nedwall@panix.com

Your best bet would be to read the SCO manuals and learn as much as you
can by getting hands on experience.  DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT GO LOOKING
for a Unix vendor.  It has been mu multiple experience,  that many
companies out there will rip you off.  What I mean is that, although
there is alot of UNIX talent out there,  sadly not too many work for UNIX
service companies.  And if they do the company has them hidden away, so 
the general customer does not get him/her.  If you go soliciting for Unix
help from companies,  they will almost always tell you that they have a
Unix expert around,  and send you a guy named Corky who doesn't know the
difference between rm -f /tmp* and rm -f * /tmp  (which can be dangerous)
I speak from experience (especially the rm -f stuff).  I won't tell you
who the worst culprits, I have found are... 

Anyway.  The best resource for a person like yourself is the net.  (you
have that advantage)  There are alot of quality people on the net willing
to give you as much help as they can for free.  (and I would trust it
far more than I can trust some company salesperson)  If you need help,
mail me.  I have had 2+ years admining SCO boxes,  and have set up digi
boards personally. 

I hope this has steered you in the correct direction.

ttfn,
	Mike



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From: tandle@flipper.pvv.unit.no (Morten Tandle)
Subject: Re: REXX for UNIX
Followup-To: comp.lang.rexx
Summary: Free REXX for UNIX
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 19:23:41 GMT

In article <C0Fy0w.FBr@encore.com> you write:
>Would someone tell me if there is a REXX implementation for Unix
>and where I can get it ? Also what documentaion/book is available ?
>Thanks in advance.

 There is a free REXX available for anonymous ftp on:

 flipper.pvv.unit.no:pub/regina/regina-0.03d.tar.Z

 It is known to work on:
   - gcc, lex and yacc on a Uniline 88
   - gcc, lex and yacc on Sun 3
   - c89 (unbundled), lex and yacc on Decstation 5000, under Ultrix 4.2
   - cc, lex and yacc on Irix Indigo, under IRIX
   - acc (unbundled), lex and yacc on Sun Sparc, under Sunos 4.2
   - cc, lex and yacc on Decstation 3100, under OSF/1
   - c89, lex and yacc on HP 9000, under HP/UX 8.05
   - cc, lex and yacc on IBM RS6000 under AIX
   - cc, lex and yacc on Cray under UNICOS

 There's also an FAQ-list for the newsgroup comp.lang.rexx there,
in the file pub/regina/c.l.rexx/1935

 Good Luck!

 -Morten

PS: Your article to comp.unix.admin was misposted, you should
   have posted it to comp.lang.rexx or some other group. ;-)

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From: eoliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu (Erik Oliver)
Subject: Re: Login Name Administration & Conventions
Organization: Haverford College Computer Science Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:18:34 GMT

Here at Haverford (and also at Bryn Mawr), we use an 8 letter login name
consisting of the first initial and then 7 letters of the last name,
overlaps are resolved either by a middle initial or something to that
effect.  An attempt is made either using NIS to keep common
username/password and any non-NIS machines generally try to use the same
username as the primary systems.

PERSONALLY, I don't like this system as much as our old VAX/VMS
usernames which were first initial underscore full last name.  This had
the added advantage of making lookups by initials much easier. And made
the usernames more descriptive.

-Erik
eoliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu
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From: dejesus@saturn.nwc.navy.mil (Francisco X DeJesus)
Subject: Re: Shell script to invoke su and mount CD-ROM
Keywords: su, csh, cd-rom
Organization: Science Applications International Corp.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:27:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.173010.18598@csi.uottawa.ca> glenn@popeye.genie.uottawa.ca (Glenn Warnock 789-3225 Algonquin Associate) writes:
>
>We would like to allow all users to mount CD-ROM on our netwrok. It seems the only way to do this is to use mount which requires super user provileges.
>
>We are trying to write a script which will invoke su and mount the CD-ROM, but we cannot invoke su in the script and automatically give it the password.
>
>Any suggestions on how to solve this problem?

Obvious solution: make the script set-uid. Obvious problem: security hole.
Never, ever, have a set-uid shell script unless there is absolutely no
other alternative (and even then, think twice).

One viable alternative is the "sudo" program, which will allow you (root)
to let specific users run specific commands (ex: mount) as root. I've
also seen a "safe" mount/umount program which was posted a long while
back... don't have the sources handy right now but I could find 'em. I'd
probably go with "sudo" myself... check your local archie server...
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From: efros@leopard.east-slc.edu (Alyosha Efros)
Subject: Is it safe to mount /usr/spool/mail?
Organization: East High School, Utah
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 02:32:00 GMT

Hey!

Before doing anything drastic I was wondering if it is safe to mount
/usr/spool/mail from one machine to the others so all mail will be in one
place. We are running Ultrix.

Thanks,
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From: root@sanger.chem.nd.edu (Doctor Math)
Subject: Re: lp vs lpr
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:16:41 GMT

In article <1i9fmmINNq29@rave.larc.nasa.gov> kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey) writes:
>In article <1i89n4INN11s@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cq377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David C. Williss) writes:
>>PS:  Oh, specifics.  The Printer is on an SGI Iris running IRIX.
>>The Other machine is a Sun IPX.
>
>The System V and BSD line printer spoolers are completely different.  They
>use different protocols to transfer files and won't talk to one another.

BZZZT! I've gotten BSD->SysV and SysV->BSD gateways to work just fine.
I have to. I use SGI hardware. BTW, SGI does document the BSD stuff; it's
"not supported" but there's a FAX you can get from the TAC (800-800-4SGI)
which explains how to set it up, with the obligatory warning that it's
not supported. It's a pain to set up; once it works, you just use it.

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From: trondk@zevs.ifi.unit.no (Trond Kandal)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Disk quotas
Date: 7 Jan 93 10:00:12 GMT
Organization: University of Trondheim, Norway

I need help to set on setting up disk quotas.
I have read the documentation for SunOS but I think it is rather poor
on explaining how to set up quotas.
My problem is edquota.
The edquota starts VI and then You should write in the quotas.

You get a line like this:
fs /home blocks ( soft=0, hard=0 ) inodes ( soft=0, hard=0 )

What does it mean with soft and hard, - and what relation am I to use between
blocks and inodes ?

Is there anybody out there that has *good* documentation for this ?

Thanks ! :-)

Trond Kandal. 
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From: sandyb@world.std.com (Sandy Bendremer)
Subject: UPS Software Monitor??
Summary: Need software to monitor UPS
Keywords: UPS
Organization: AnyWare Associates -- Boston, MA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:33:02 GMT

I have a Topaz/Square D CUB Powermaker UPS, on a 486 based system running
SVR4.  The unit is equipped with a DB9 connecter and some simple relays that
show loss of AC power and low battery.  The manual says that user supplied 
software and cable are required to make use of this feature.

Is there any simple software kicking around that allows one to use an RS232
port to monitor the UPS like this.  It seems that some of the standard RS232
control lines could be used for this purpose.

The pin-out of the DB9 connector and the Truth Table is as follows.
 
 5   4   2   2   1
             +-------------o C	  LOSS OF AC POWER
             |   +-------o  \o 	       RELAY
 o   o   o   o   o     NO    | NC
   o   o   o   o             |
               +-------------+
   9   8   7   6

STATE\PIN	PIN 2,1	 PIN 4,8   PIN 2,6   PIN 4,9
=====================================================
  NORMAL	 OPEN	  OPEN      CLOSE     CLOSE
  BACK-UP        CLOSE    OPEN      OPEN      CLOSE
  BATTERY LOW    XXXX     CLOSE     XXXX      OPEN

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. 

Sandy

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From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (Stew Ellis)
Subject: Re: Extracting Security off of CD-ROM
Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute, Flint, MI
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:10:58 GMT

mkatyal@mcl.bdm.com (Manju Dolly Katyal) writes:

>I has Sun OS 4.1.3 installed on a Sun Sparc 2. I would like to install
>the C2 Security features without reinstalling the operating system. 
>Is this possible?  

>Also, I need the OS to prevent users from logging on, if they fail
>to successfully logon after x number of attempts.  Is this feature
>available with Sun's C2 Security? If not, any ideas on how to 
>implement it?
>Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.unix.solaris
>Subject: Extracting Security off of CD-ROM
>Summary: 
>Expires: 
>References: <1993Jan11.103940.6517@desire.wright.edu>
>Sender: mkatyal@mclean.bdm.com 
>Followup-To: 
>Distribution: 
>Organization: BDM International, Inc.
>Keywords: 

>I has Sun OS 4.1.3 installed on a Sun Sparc 2. I would like to install
>the C2 Security features without reinstalling the operating system. 
>Is this possible?  

>Also, I need the OS to prevent users from logging on, if they fail
>to successfully logon after x number of attempts.  Is this feature
>available with Sun's C2 Security? If not, any ideas on how to 
>implement it?

I has been several months since the sysadmin and I did it, but I remember
that it was done as a separate step after the OS was completely installed.
Just follow the instructions in the chapter in Network Admin guide.  Some
people have pointed out that the C2 is not a certified implementation.  I am
not sure.

I asked the question about login myself and someone told me it already does
close the connection after a number of failed attempts.  It just doesn't
seem to be tunable.  I had never screwed up enough times to see it.  I
believe it is set at about 5 failed attempts.  Determine it empirically.  I
would be happier if it were 3 or tunable.

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From: mbarkah@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Ade Barkah)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: DialUps FAQ idea.
Date: 13 Jan 93 03:59:53 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

A faq would be nice, but each hardware/software combination
may need to be setup/configured properly. Perhaps if people
would start posting what they do on their site with an 
adequate description of the hardware (computer, modem,
multiport devices, etc.) as well as the operating system,
problems they've encountered and how they've solved it,
someone could then compile it into a FAQ.

Regards,

-Ade.
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