From: zaphiri@zoro.cis.temple.edu (Zaphiris Christidis)
Newsgroups: news.admin,alt.fan.john-palmer
Subject: Re: Dr. John Roger Palmer Rabbit (was Re: HBM)
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:46:37 GMT
Organization: Temple University

In article <2AB51957.5F99@tct.com> chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg) writes:
>= ......
>= From: xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan)
>= ....
>= Does this remind you of a certain John Palmer who was denied a chance to
>= flood comp.newprod with advertising, forged authorizations on the
>= articles, got in another big fight with the net, threatened to
>= unmoderate a lot of newsgroups, issued newgroup messages for a lot of
>= newsgroups changing their status to unmoderated, denied sending the
>= messages, had a flock of control messages with his site as origin and
>= him as sender displayed here for the readers, claimed to have written
>= only local control messages, and then blamed the whole thing on his
>= newsfeed, a few months back?

Also, published personal e-mail in the network, ignoring net etiquette,
in the name of free speech. I just happened to come accross the following:

# >From: jp@tygra.Michigan.COM (John Palmer)
# Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.soviet
# Subject: FYI - Another facist want to violate the 1st Amendment.
# Message-ID: <1992Feb6.214708.306@tygra.Michigan.COM>
# Date: 6 Feb 92 21:47:08 GMT
# Organization: CAT-TALK Conferencing System, Clinton Township, MI
#
# Got this little beauty from someone who doesn't understand free speech.
# Here is his message and my reply. I'm staying out of this, but thought
# it was important to let you know whats going on.
#
# jp
#
# -----
#
# > 
# > Dear Sir or Madam:
# > 
# > There is a person in your school which floods USENET networks with
# > a lot of postings that are not related to the groups he is posting to.
# > He signs as "xxxxx x xxxxx" 
# > Please check groups soc.culture.turkish, .soviet, talk.politics.*
# > He is wasting a lot of network resources and plus resources of your school.
# > It would be best if you restricted posting for him.
# > 
# > yyyy yyyyyyyyyyyy
# > 
#
# We have no such user as "xxxxx x xxxxx" on our machines. Please check the
# address on the "From:" line to find out where it came from.
#
# My opinion: In the USA, people are free to speak as they wish. The same
# thing goes for USENET. People can post whatever they want as long as its
# not something illegal (like credit card numbers or access codes). Perhaps
# you should learn about killfiles. Most news software allows a person to 
# set up a file so that postings from certain people (or on certain subjects)
# can be filtered out so that the software doesn't show you that person's 
# posts anymore. If you need assistance in setting up a killfile, please
# let me know. Also, if you need help finding the name of the system admin
# for the system in questions, please send me a sample "From:" line and I'll
# see if I can look up the sysops name in the UUCP Maps or the Internet
# Phone Book.
# 
# John Palmer
# Network Administrator
# Michigan Network Systems, Inc.
#
# -- 
# CAT-TALK Conferencing System   | E-MAIL: jp@Michigan.COM
# +1 313 790 6426 (USR HST)      | MICHIGAN NETWORK SYSTEMS, INC.  
# +1 313 790 6432 (TELEBIT PEP)  | 800-736-5984  FAX: 313-790-6437 
# ********EIGHT NODES*********** | TELEBIT, DIGIBOARD, ISC UNIX, MICROPOLIS

I thought it was strange for somebody calling himself a Network Administrator
to publisize private e-mail, sent to him for the accouct "postmaster" in his
systems. The names above were replaced by "xxxx" and "yyyy" by me, as they
are irrelevant to the followup. I am sure JP knows the real names, as he
left them untouched in his posting. 


Zaphiris D. Christidis,
Newsgroups: news.admin,comp.org.eff.talk,misc.legal.computing