Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.activism.d,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,talk.politics.misc,talk.abortion,alt.politics.elections
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 01:03:29 -0400 
From: Michael Loomis <ml3e+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Walking down to the student center last night
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   Let's discuss the excerpt below by Mr. William Hall.  He is quoting
Mr. Leif Magnar Kjnny of an unknown Scandanavian Coutry.  (Mr.  Kjnny's
name may be mispelled because his country is not prosperous enough to
give  people names consisting solely of ASCII characters.  I am proud of
America's willingness to share its glorious technology with third world 
countries.)

>"I feel that the legalized killing of aware, thinking human beings is
>far more atrocious than abortion, byseveral orders of magnitude."
> 
>Excuse me, but are you NUTS? Are you saying that the execution of
>individuals who (most would say) DESERVE to be put to death for
>committing crimes unimaginably heinous is more atrocious than the
>killing of an unborn child, who is the quintessence of innocence? I see
>a problem with your logic, my friend. 

   Unlike Mr. Hall, I was delighted to read Mr. Kjnny's opinion on
talk.abortion.  Mr. Kjnny appears to wish a decent planet to live on. 
If Mr. Hall lived in a Third World country like India or Finland,  he
would not call think Mr. Kjnny nutty.  Let me put what Mr. Kjnny said
even more strongly.  Abortion is a wonderful device for the human race
to control its bloated population on this planet.  Rather something to
be condemned, it is something to praised.  Call me pro-abortion; I
loathe that wishy-washy "pro-choice, anti-abortion" mantra.  The
alternative to abortion is the extinction of many of the other species
currently residing, a real genocide.
    Then, there is the possibility that this planet will not particular
habitable for homo sapiens. Some people will want us trust technology
the deus ex machina. The trouble with technology is that for every
problem it solves a new problem takes it place.  Radio which a solution
to the problem of mass communication, now now presents society with
difficulty of eradicating the Rush Limbaugh cult.
    But let's get back to that adherent of another dreary cult, Mr.
Hall.  As is usual with the pious, he views his fetal idolatry, as
overwhelmingly more important than Mr. Kjnny's desire to improve his
squalid country by limiting its population.  Perhaps, Mr. Hall shouled
consider the alternatives.  In his letter Mr. Kjnny hints at the
traditional solution to human overpopulation.  "Further, a newborn baby
can hardly be said to be fully aware.  I don't view even newborn babies
as actual human beings--they are potential human beings.  Getting born
means you're only halfway there."  Yes, infanticide, that delightful
Darwinian adjustment for species that are too successful.  Because
humans are not natural; because we are overfastidious, we now have
abortion.  Let us praise God for abortion.
    While we are praising God in his mercy and love for giving us
abortion, we should reflect on the doctrine of original sin.  If God
decides to grant fetuses personhood, then they get the whole baggage of
the original sin.  He is a good God, and aborted fetuses are tossed into
the burning lake of fire, except if baptized, which the evil, pagan
abortionists hardly ever do.  Praise the Lord. Meanwhile, the
pythagorean theorem, that true quitessence of innocence, the ignorance
of non-euclidean geometry, still has not been granted its right to life.
 
 

>I find it stangely ironic that those who are for abortion because of
>overpopulation are also opposed to hunting which, in most cases, keeps
>populations of animals with no natural predators under control. It even
>seems that they care more for deer and moose than children -- human
>beings. Weird.

    Mr.  Hall's exhibits that thorough knowledge of biology that we have
to come to know and love in those who confuse zygotes with sales clerks.
 All animals have natural predators.  Of course, some natural predators
have been eliminated from the scene by human overpopulation.  I keep
hoping for the return of the wolf to Pittsburgh.
    To end on a harmonious note, Mr. Hall and I both do agree that at
times  killing is a good thing.  Deer, moose, fetuses?  Which should be
thrown into the blender?

Michael Loomis
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