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From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Mr. Bungle - who are they?
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:06:24 GMT

In article <1k6dm6INNdlf@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> mucds@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Corey D. Stinson) writes:
>    I was reading the trak list of the back of a Mr. Bungle CD the 
>other day, and the song names were pretty funky!  Who is this band,
>and how heavy are they?  Never seen a video or anything for them,
>just curious to grab some opinions!

They're a John Zorn type band (Zorn produced their album) and have hade
quite a few demos released by mail order in the past six or seven or so
years, maybe longer, I think. They've been around for quite a while but 
it seems like they've been unknown until their singer Vlad Dragg sang on
Faith No More's THE REAL THING to replace the previous singer Chuck Mosley,
who recently left the band. (Vlad Dragg is also known as Mike Patton).
Lyrics are sick and disgusting. Mausturbating in food, stuff like that.
Cool to listen to. Very funny band. They're all really good musicians (seven
members - singer, guitarist, keyboardist, bassist, drummer, and two saxes).
Lots of their songs have to do with sex, but it's as I said more disgusting 
and explicit than rock music usually gets. "Love Is A Fist" (my favorite song
on the album) is especially heavy, as is "Slowly Growing Deaf." "Travolta"
(on some CDs it's called "Quote Unquote") is really weird sounding. Time
changes, key changes, all in extremes. Very tight band overall. If people
wondered why Patton is such a pervert, this band explains it. "The Girls Of
Porn" is interesting. The intro to "Dead Goon" is also pretty funny. The whole
album is funny. It's also about 70 minutes long, with the shortest song being
about 6 minutes, two songs over 10 minutes and the rest about 8 or 9. Not
a boring album at all, to say the least (IMHO of course). I prefer this to
any Faith No More Patton did.

wei hao
Philip Wei Hao Wang                     E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"I have loved, I have lost, I have killed those who have loved me so. I have 
 learned, but at what cost, Lord, I don't know... I'm living on borrowed time"
                       - Diamond Head, "Living On Borrowed Time"
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From: jwollam@dave.mis.semi.harris.com (Jason Wollam)
Subject: concert dates?
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:08:34 GMT
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Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne  FL


I was wondering if any of you metal out there knew of any good bands playing in the Orlando,florida area. Thanks

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From: hawks@seq.uncwil.edu (David Hawks)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Sepultura & MTV
Date: 27 Jan 93 03:11:49 GMT
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington

I saw one of Sepultura's videos once quite some time ago.   I no longer
watch Headbangers Ball.  Ricky Rat really makes me want to puke and I 
would rather avoid watching anything that makes me feel sick.  I can't
tell you how pissed off I get thinking about what HB has degraded too. 
It really pisses me off that those assholes at MTV can't let a few of us
metalheads watch a couple hours of solid REAL METAL.  Don't they have
2 hours for alternative/progressive 120 minutes?  Have they watered it down
for them too?   2 hours out of the whole week that is all I ask!!  2 hours
to see some real Metal videos like they used to play.  If they want to
play hard rock, pop rock, regular rock for 2 hours why don't they just
get their own 2 hours.  Whats the point of consilidating what they already
play during all hours to 2 hours on Saturday?anyway?  I thought the 
original purpose of HB and 120 minutes was to show videos that were not
normally, for the most part, shown own MTV.  Why rehash regular rock videos
that are played during normal hours on MTV during HB?  MTV just sucks.
You guys and gals remember back in its early years when you could watch MTV
and actually see different vidoes all the time.  It was so cool.  Now you
see the same videos over and over again.  Or should I say the same top 20
over and over again.  Of course I could be wrong I have probably only watched
MTV a total of 1-2 hours in the last 6 months.
-- Dave
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From: amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault)
Subject: Re: Candlemass
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:05:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.005120.20436@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> pck8t@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (MICHAEL CORLEONE) writes:
>In article <tam.85@stud.hsn.no> tam@stud.hsn.no (TORE SKARVIK AMUNDSEN) writes:
>>Anyone out there who has heard of Candlemass. It's a Swedish dark metal band.
>>The music is very powerful, dark, deep, slow and good.
>>Their newest CD is a bit different, but when I'm talking about Candlemass I'
>>m talking of their previous stuff, when Messiah still was singing.
>>Any comments?
>
>Being a Sabbath fanatic (Ozzy-Sabbath mostly), I am hoping to get into the 
>doom metal scene.  I read about Candlemass rather frequently in this group,
>so I went out and got Ancient Dreams, which was from 1988.  I was very
>disappointed.  The singer's voice is very annoying, and many of the lyrics
>are pretty stupid, I felt.  Is this the same singer they've had on all
>their albums?  Is this generally considered a good or bad album by them?
>

	This last comment could very easily have been written by myself.  I, 
too, am a big fan of classib Black Sabbath, purchased Ancient Dreams, and 
thought the album both annoying and insipid.  Marcolin's voice is terrible!  I
just don't understand the attraction many have to these guys.

Ripping flesh and drawing blood,
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From: mega@lut.fi (Mega the Root of All Evil)
Subject: Re: SEX PISTOL/ANTHRAX LYRICS WANTED(SORRY)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:49:38 GMT
Disclaimer: Death before disco
Organization: Pikametallimiehet (Speed Metal Men), Finland


> In article <1993Jan21.234451.25942@pellns.alleg.edu>, goetzj@carn20.alleg.edu (Justin Goetz) writes:

> I am looking for the lyrics for Friggin' In The Riggin' by the Sex Pistols  
> and I was informed that Anthrax had covered the song and the lyrics had  
> been posted. Could someone post them again or send them to me?

> goetzj@alleg.edu

> Justin

 Here they come. Enjoy!

Friggin' in the Riggin'
(Chorus, Music and Lyrics by yhe Sex Pistols; Additional lyrics by Anthrax.)

There was a bunch of roadies
And this here is their story
A scurvy bunch of evil twits
Who never say they're sorry
They've traveled cross the nations
Fuckin' paid vacations
We love the schism that they make
They're here for the duration

Chorus:
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do

The captain's name is Rick
Whose "Bozo-do" is slick
He really thinks he knows it all
He's just a Jersey hick

Wanking, cranking, Georgie
He always finds an orgy
He rubs his balls and picks his nose
He's horny Georgie porgie

(Chorus)

The king of sleaze is Ring
Polaroid's his thing
He whipped it out, her teeth fell out
And now it's in a sling

>From L.A. we have Troy
His fetish is Playboy
A smelly trout, he'll eat it out
Go wash your hands, you're M.O.I.

(Chorus)

John Tempesta is The Joker
The Adams apple choker
Sandra Bernhard is his twin
He'd probably even poke her

The B-Boy was John Rooney
He was a fuckin' looney
He does a rap, he thinks he's black
He's soft like Gerry Cooney

(Chorus)

Yo, my name is Bill
Dur, and bouncing is my skill, Duh
Smoke ten packs and use my plaque
Duh, with my breath I'll kill

Thursby is the lard ass
The monitors are his task
The sound they made when the band played
Was like Ed Trunk with bad gas

(Chorus)

The photobug is Ambo
He'll fill up any hairy hole
We'll blindfold you with dental floss
You burnt out fuckin' bimbo

The bottom line is Z
Oh please don't sit on me
Go wipe your hemorroid ridden butt
You 1960's hippy!

(Chorus)

This here was the story
About our fuckin' roadies
A scurvy bunch of evil twits
Who never say they're sorry
They've traveled cross the nations
Fuckin' paid vacations
The love the schism that they make
They're here for the duration

Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do!

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From: slayer@cislabs.pitt.edu (Deborah)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Which Judas Priest to get?
Date: 23 Jan 93 23:59:49 GMT

In article <1js8bvINNfm6@rs2.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Natuerlich!) writes:
>In article <C18oMo.GpF@math.uwaterloo.ca> amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault) writes:
>>In article <1jluv8INNsqh@nemesis.muppet.bt.co.uk> bart@muppet.bt.co.uk writes
>Well the Monster of Rock thing is pretty stupid, but on the whole I like
>RiD better then PK. On PK, granted the title track is great, but the rest 
>doesn't leave any impression in my mind. This is one of my least heard CDs. The
>songs just sound all similiar to me, and the 'ballad' stuff in the end is 
>this OLD heavy metal I really dislike.
>RiD on the other hand does contain quite a few good (and distinct) songs,
>it's not as poppish as Turbo, and has this extremely funny Chuck Berry cover.

I have PainKiller and it is kind of gathering dust on my cd rack.. I really
do not listen to it that much.. I prefer very early Judas Priest to the
new stuff I think Rob's voice is so much powerful back then.. A lot of
people think the guitar work was too simple and now it is more complicated
and good to listen to.. But in my humble opinion I would rather listen to
early JP any old day.. I think my favorite one so far is Sad Wings Of 
Destiny..





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May look a little young 
So what's wrong ?
You don't have to be old to be wise
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From: schandr@eos.ncsu.edu 
Subject: Sepultura 
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:46:22 GMT

Netters,

What up?  I've recently been listening to Sepultura quite a bit and
would like to ask the following questions:  

1)  Has anybody seen their "Live Under Siege"(I think that's the 
    proper title) video recorded in Barcelona ? and if so what are
    your impressions as far as videos are concerned ?  I saw 
    "Desperate Cry" on MTV a few weeks ago and it was awesome as
    shit.  Also I've heard a live version of "Inner Self" that's 
    supposedly on this video, I found it on the b-side of the "Arise"
    single, and it was pretty incredible also.  Also how many songs
    from "Beneath the Remains" are on this video?

2)  I understand that they are coming out with a new album soon (in a
    couple of months) and that they've been playing stuff from it 
    in recent concerts.  If anyone has seen them recently, how is
    their new stuff compared to their current stuff?

3)  How good is "Morbid Visions" (the only one I don't have to my
    knowledge) compared to the other three?

thanx,

Drifter



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From: lavonius@plootu.Helsinki.FI (Ville Lavonius)
Subject: Louie Clemente has left Testament
Organization: Beverly Hills 666
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:47:24 GMT

Yeah, in the wake of Skolnick, their drummer leaves the band also.

New recruit is "the guy who was a replacement for Lombardo in Slayer",
menaing that I don't remember his name.
--
Ville Lavonius	        University of Helsinki, Dept. of Computer Science
lavonius@cc.helsinki.fi : You're a notch and I'm a legend - Alice Cooper

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From: jfmburg@cs.vu.nl (JFM Burg)
Subject: Re: Sepultura 
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:11:21 GMT

schandr@eos.ncsu.edu wrote:
: Netters,

: What up?  I've recently been listening to Sepultura quite a bit and
: would like to ask the following questions:  

: 3)  How good is "Morbid Visions" (the only one I don't have to my
:     knowledge) compared to the other three?

: thanx,

: Drifter

Morbid Visions is from their Death-metal period, and since that's not my
favorite metal-style (I'm more into thrash and speed), I'm not very excited
about this one. I do like it, but simply don't love it. And even when you do
like death-metal, I don't think this is a classic one. The songs are not
very well produced, and the guys had to learn a lot when they released this
one (what they did, because I really love Arise).

c-ya,
				Hans



-- 
				Hans Burg
				Vrije Universiteit
				Amsterdam, Holland
				e-mail : jfmburg@cs.vu.nl
Organization: Sophomore, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:13:09 -0500 
From: David-Hyung Suk Kim <dk3y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: favorite albums of all-time

>I think it should read (again in no particular order):
> 
>1 - The Broadsword and the Beast (Jethro Tull)
>2 - New England (Wishbone Ash)
>3 - Hats (The Blue Nile)
>4 - Lettuce Prey (The Six and Violence)
>5 - Stop Making Sense (Talking Heads)
>6 - Bend Sinister (The Fall)
>7 - Fire in the Rain (Masi - bloody sight better than Malmsteen!!)
>8 - The Looks or the Lifestyle (PWEI)
>9 - Express (Love and Rockets)
>10- Trompe le Monde (The Pixies)
 
My list:
1. Black Sabbath-Black Sabbath
2. Queensryche-Operation Mindcrime
3. Metallica-Ride the Lightning
4. Pink Floyd-Wish You Were Here
5. Black Sabbath-Paranoid
6. Led Zeppelin- 1st
7. AC/DC-Back in Black
8. Ozzy Osbourne-Blizzard of Ozz
9. Megadeth-Peace sell but Who's buying
10.Alice in Chains-Dirt

dave
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From: gdoherty@unix1.tcd.ie (Gavin)
Subject: Re: question about Slayer
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:26:23 GMT

In <1993Jan22.061810.6831@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:

>I liked most of SOUTH OF HEAVEN and
>some of SEASONS IN THE ABYSS (especially "Dead Skin Mask," "Skeletons Of
>Society," and "War Ensemble") but some stuff I just found kind of boring.
>So what would you recommend> DECADE OF AGRESSION or that EP REIGN IN BLOOD?
>Or is there something else I should consider as the best collection of Slayer
>stuff? (I'm sort of getting slowly into American heavy metal now).

I've heard the live album and it's fairly good - a mix of some of their best
stuff. Reign in Blood is not an E.P. - its an album, albeit a short one
due to the incredible speed of the various tracks. Definitely the
fastest, most hardcore-ish thing they've done to date. Personally, I
think Hell Awaits is their best - it has a real edge you don't find very
often. Both Hell awaits and Show No Mercy (their first album) were
released in the mid-eighties ('84-'85) and it shows, but I still love
'em.

	Gavin.

--
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Student Computing Research Group  \   Four slugs from a Colt 44,
Department of Computer Science      \   No Les, no more."
Trinity College, Dublin               \      --- Tombstone, Arizona
From: arnoud@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Arnoud Helmantel)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Paradise Lost
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:48:08 GMT
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands.
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5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu wrote:
: I think it is interesting one poster recommends Shades of God over Gothic
: while another poster prefers Gothic.  I want a release by this band (which
: I've never heard), but can only afford one release.  How does Gothic
: differ from Shades (i.e. why is one bettern than another in your opinion).
: Any comments on this are appreciated.  Eric M.

I personally prefer SoG over Gothic, but I don't think Gothic is a lesser
album (can you follow me?). Gothic is more "gothic" than SoG; P.L. uses
keyboards and female singers on this album, and the atmosphere of the album
is a bit more depressing than on SoG.
The album SoG is a bit more "normal" heavy metal (clean produced, no synths,
a bit less growling by the vocalist and a lot of good melodies...).

				Mjollnir (IRC)
				E-mail: arnoud@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl
From: wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Natuerlich!)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: favorite albums of all-time
Date: 25 Jan 1993 21:01:55 GMT
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In article <1993Jan25.162342.1590@gserv1.dl.ac.uk> J.A.Needham@daresbury.ac.uk (J.A. Needham) writes:
>
>I think it should read (again in no particular order):
>
>1 - The Broadsword and the Beast (Jethro Tull)
>2 - New England (Wishbone Ash)
>3 - Hats (The Blue Nile)
>4 - Lettuce Prey (The Six and Violence)
>5 - Stop Making Sense (Talking Heads)
>6 - Bend Sinister (The Fall)
>7 - Fire in the Rain (Masi - bloody sight better than Malmsteen!!)
>8 - The Looks or the Lifestyle (PWEI)
>9 - Express (Love and Rockets)
>10- Trompe le Monde (The Pixies)
>
All right! This stuff is about as heavy metal as you can get,
Jethro tull forever!  (barf)

Nat!
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From: 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: But Jethro Tull is Heavy Metal!!!!
Date: 26 Jan 1993 03:45:37 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
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In article <93025.200202IFMXB@ASUACAD.BITNET>, <IFMXB@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
>How can anyone say that Jethro Tull is not Heavy Metal.  After all, they beat
>out Metallica's "And Justice For All" at the Grammy's 3 years ago!!
>
>Now back to reality. Tull winning that Grammy was the biggest bunch of
>corporate bullshit that I have ever witnessed.  The fact that they were even
>nominated for the catagory amazed me, but when they won, I just about shit my
>pants.  Luckily the crowd booed, and the following year Metallica won the
>deserved Grammy.  Unfortunatly, when they one it, the album was past its time,
>and should not have been nominated again.  But I suppose it was a nice way for
>the industrial, corporate, shit-for-brains to make up for their mistake.  Even
>if Metallica didn't win the first time, SOMEONE besides Jethro Tull Should
>have.  Nobody bought their album (I worked in a music store for 5 yrs.)
>
>Mark Badolato
Now now, let's not be too hard on Tull.  If I remember correctly, Tull won
the Grammy when hard rock and metal were placed under one category.  Granted,
hard rock" might even be stretching it, but it's not a complete misnomer
(especially given what qualifiies as pop rock in lighter categories).  Of
course Metallica's release was better, but a band shouldn't be in music
for the awards anyway (esp. when they're making good $ from sales).  As for
the fact that Tull sold poorly, I'd hope we wouldn't make that a consideration,
given what the general public usually goes for.  Too tell you the truth, I
likie Metallica quite a bit (I put Justice in my top 10 of all time list),
but I thought it was pretty childish the way they brought the Tull thing up
in 1982 when they were receiving their Grammy; they should have let bygones be
bygones and accepted the award graciously.  They really stood out as a bunch
of egomaniacs with their juvenile sarcasm during their acceptance speech.
Besides, I'd rather that Tull have won it the year they did vs. some new
flash-in-the-pan glam band or something; let's keep perspective here.  Eric M.
From: dlm4731@zeus.tamu.edu (MAREK, DAVID LESLIE)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Sepultura & MTV
Date: 23 Jan 1993 15:17 CST
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In article <C19v2v.FKv@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man ) writes...
>jfmburg@cs.vu.nl (JFM Burg) writes:

A friend of mine saw Sepultura in Houston and raved about the show.  On a side
note, he talked to Igor after the show and asked him why Sepultura wasn't
mentioned when they were doing reports on the Ministry/Sepultura/Helmet shows.
According to Igor, Max cussed the "living fuck" out of our favorite Headbangers
Ball DJ(Mr RR himself) and then almost got into a fight with him.  Supposedly
after he got cussed out, Rick Rat said that Sep was never gettin' any airplay
on MTV again...To which Max responded"like you control what get's played" and
promptly told him to go fuck himself...

Dave

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From: jmalcolm@sura.net (Joseph Malcolm)
Subject: Re: Candlemass
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:05:44 GMT

In article <93020.153405C09615MT@wuvmd.wustl.edu> Michael Teller <C09615MT@wuvmd.wustl.edu> writes:
>On a related note for all of you Candlemass fans seeking albums:
>     Over the weekend I saw a copy of Nemesis Day of Reckoning w/ the
>     Candlemass demos on CD for $2.88 at a Camelot store in one of the
>     bargain bins. Something to keep an eye out for. I personally like
>     these Nemesis and Candlemass songs better than anything I've heard off
>     of the later albums.

Perhaps, but it gives one a renewed appreciation of why Leif wanted
a real vocalist!


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From: djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man )
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: more doom metal
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:22:32 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

arnoud@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Arnoud Helmantel) writes:

>There is only ONE little problem for people who haven't got the EP yet.... It
>was a limited editon so it's rather hard to get by....
> 
 Yer kidding?  I see this everywhere I go....everywhere.  Is this really
 limited ed?  I didn;t think it was nearly as good as Forests...I dunno, and
 my opinion on Winter would have to be thumbs down.  Too I dunno, to produced
 maybe for me.  Heard them on Death ...Beginning II and was interested by
 their write up in the liner notes, then disappointed bythe song.

					the man