From: nolen@gandalf2.Eng.Sun.COM (Mark Nolen [TI])
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Hmmm  Texas to Big 10!!!
Date: 12 Sep 1992 03:19:59 GMT
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In article <1992Sep10.200056.2033@ods.com> scott@ods.com (Scott Harper) writes:
>John R. Boisseau (Jay) (boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu) wrote:
>: Thus, and "alliance" probably wouldn't do the trick. I see a
>: merger of the "big" four SWC schools with the Big 8 as offering the
>: best hope... 
>: 
>: P.S. I'm glad ther aren't too many Baylor, SMU, and TCU fans on the
>: net... I suspect the flames will largely come from the Rice fans.
>: hey, guys, I like your school, I'm just looking out for the Texas
>: schools that have a chance to get better, OK?
>
>Ok, I'll flame you... (Not that I'm really standing up for Baylor,
>nor, for that matter, am I really flaming you).
>
>I agree with *almost* everything you said, except I really think 
>Baylor deserves to be in there instead of UH.  They *have* shown
>they can recruit with/against t.u. and aTm (UH hasn't, really),
>they draw a bigger crowd *and* more national attention than UH (IMO).
>With the new Ferrell Center and the new field house they have shown
>that their stated commitment to big-time college sports is more than
>just talk.  With Teaff taking over as AD, look for the other (women's
>and non-revenue) programs to improve.
>

Well being Baylor alum and _painfully_ loyal fan, I guess I should make some
remark on this subject.  As someone stated in another post, football is quite
important to us Baylor folk.  As at other schools it seems to traditionally be
_the_ defining activity around which campus activity revolves for the entire
fall semester. I for one, and many others like me, would be extremely distressed
at just the thought of Baylor loosing Div.I football.

I understand the arguments Jay made.  I've even thought similar things before:
"If only Tech, Rice, TCU, SMU, and UH dropped DivI, then Baylor, UT and TAMU
could be as dominant year in and year out as the Florida schools." I just think
its a shame, though that college athletics have gotten to the point where
such selfish attitudes are necessary to survive, especially coming from a
a small school (though fairly large by private standards) that doesn't have
nearly the clout of the large state schools (big fan base, state support, etc).

Well enough pouting. Now a few comments.  I have no idea what might happen
to Baylor if the SWC folds, which appears to be inevitable (word is that SMU
has lost interest in DivI sports, which probably means the end of the conf.),
but I have to believe that the administration is working on something.
After all, the University just spent $10+ million on the Ferrell Center and
~$5-8+ million on stadium improvements (including state-of-the-art training
facilities).  So I`m still hopeful.

On the rumor of Hatfield dumping Clemson for Baylor: "Source who know" have
said this is highly unlikely for numerous reasons. Apparently a rumor of
Hatfield leaving Clemson came from some disgruntled Danny Ford supporters who
are still out to get Hatfield.  They saw a For Sale sign in his yard (he lives
in the country and wants to move into town) and started the rumor based on
that.

Finally, to that NICE CU fan:  Please have mercy on me after your Buffaloes
trample my poor little Bears. 8(

That's all for now... Cheers to all.

-Mark

Baylor '88 --> Sic'em Bears!
Duke   '91 --> Go Blue Devils!