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From: delledg@uts.cc.wayne.edu (DeVaughn Elledge)
Subject: Re: Rascals (SPOILERS ABOUND!)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit Mich.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:05:42 GMT

In article <9242@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.182116.1@vax1.umkc.edu>, dprebyl@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>
>> Anyway I am willing to entertain suggestions on how they could of taken over
>> the ship so quicly.
>
>The Ferengi hailed the Enterprise and said "Candygram for Jean-Luc" and he
>let them on board.
>Terry

 Yeah, I can see it now!!!

Worf: Captian! Incomming message from unknown vessel. 
Picard: On screen.
Worf: Its audio only, sir.
<We all hear the noise as Worf presses the comm button but their is only silence and a low pitch schrill(sp?).>

Picard: <Impatiently> Who's there!!
Vessel: <in a low garbled voice> a..a..candigram. 
Picard: <looking at Riker in disbelief> What!?!
 <the whole crew looks around as a sound rises loudly then quickly and silently
  falls off to silence>
Picard: Data..What was that!!
Data: <Slightly shaking his head and moving his eyes, as if he were actually loo       king at the files he is accessing>: Sir, If I didn't know better....
....I would say that it was a Bass violin.
Riker: A what!!
Picard: <annoyed> Mister Worf...Hailing frequency...<channel opens>...who's
  out there?!.
Vessel: <voice slightly high but still garbled>....a...Dominoes Pizza. 
<the Bass Violin gets louder this time>
Troi: We didn't order a pizza this time, sir....
Riker: And there is no Dominoes Pizza Starbase in this sector.
Picard annoyed turns to Worf who is just fighting with himself to not lock on
to the vessel with weapons.

Picard: Worf, take a security team to transporter room 3. 
Worf: Sir!
Picard: Mr O'Brian, Look on to that transmission and beam up what ever at it's
  source.
<As the noise from the transporter fades, we here the sound of the JAWS theme
 song begin. It gets faster and faster as the Ferengi Landshark takes over the
 security crew, the transporter room, and eventually the crew.>

<Will Wesley be able to save them from this one?? We'll see next week>
  :-)

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From: 00mjstum@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Matthew J. Stum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Guinan's age
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:00:54 GMT
Organization: Widget Enterprises

cs202144@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs202144) writes:
> Just thought I would mention that we know for 100% fact what age range Guinan
> is in! First of all we know she is over 500 years old due to Time's Arrow.
> And secondly, she mentions her father is under 700 so she must at least be
> younger than her father. Therefore, Guinan's age is in the range:
> 
> 500 < Guinan < 700.
> 
> 200 year range, but better than we knew before.

Who's to say she didn't travel forward in time at some point between Time's
Arrow and "the present"?  The fact that she became a "child" in Rascal's might
suggest she's not nearly as old as we thought... or, was it just another
continuity blooper by the Treknocreators?

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From: 00bwanderson@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Rascals: Kanamorites have missed the point again...
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:24:45 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's


In article <1992Nov8.211949.13852@hubcap.clemson.edu>, charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV) writes:
>>We were watching it in residence Friday night and we all LOVED it!
>>It was FUNNY!! 
> 
> Right ... but that's about all it had going for it. ;-)
> 
>>Star Trek does not HAVE to be perfectly consistent and serious all the time -
>>it is ENTERTAINMENT!
> 
> Yes, but don't you expect it to be *reasonably* thought out instead of using 
> a very slight variation on one of ST:TAS's episodes?  (remember the one where
> the crew got turned to children?)

Ummmm...no, actually I don't.  Refresh my memory, please.  I'd thought I'd seen
'em all, and read a good amount of literatur-I can recall a story where Kirk,
Spock, and some Klingons were turned into women, but never children.  Hmmm...

> 
> -- 
> + Rick __     + EMAIL:charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu +   //\          + /|\ It's +
> |      /aylor | IRC  : Tomalek / The Romulan     | \X/--\miga 500 |  J rainy |
> +-------------+----------------------------------+----------------+----------+
> + "Every Girl Already Has A Boyfriend" --- Murphy's Law Of Dating... 
So true, so true...


        +

Spock out...
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From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Rascals (spoiler)
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:00:04 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <8270@public.BTR.COM>, rem@btr.com (Robert E. Maas) writes:
>(If you didn't see the show yet, you might NOT want to see next page.)

> One thing that impresses me (favorably) about the design of the
> Enterprise and other starships is the large number of things about that
> ship that the crew, or only the captain, know, and aliens don't even
> suspect, that allow the legitimate crew to retake the ship etc. in
> emergencies. 

My father used to comment on this phenomenon, althought he didn't realize it
at the time.  Dad would note that in a gun fight, the "bad" guys would fire
and fire their guns, never hitting anyone.  Yet, the "good" guys would fire
just a couple of times and hit all the "bad guys".  My dad would say, "gee,
those "bad" guys are bad shots!".

I guess I'll update this with, "Gee, those Ferengi are pretty stupid!".  If
you're going to "take over" a ship, you should at least study it first.

I wonder if the Ferengi rob banks the same way?  "OK, now where's the vault?"

Oh and they DID manage a "transporter accident" in this episode, too!  It's
required of every plot this season!

Terry
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From: pjb@cci632.cci.com (Phil Busardo)
Subject: Re: RASCALS-this is writing?
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:23:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.163526.5565@desire.wright.edu> dstuart@desire.wright.edu writes:
>	Rascals-get real.  I cannot believe the scripts that are being
>passed to the public this year. What happened to stories like "The 
>Best of Both Worlds" that had plots instead of gimmicks.  The next thing
>we can expect might be "That Darn Data" or "Leave it to Beverly".
>Don't get me wrong, I enjoy ST:TNG I just hate to see the quality of 
>the previous seasons ruined by the sensationalist writing of this year.
>I know I'll prolly get flames for this but I don't think anyone can
>deny that this season has been the worst to date.
>
>		  		later,
>
>						STU

Am I the only one who understood this story?  Did anyone realize that 
Guinan knew what was gonna happen all the while?  Didn't anyone
realize what this story meant to Ro?  Come one, read between the lines!

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From: hillel@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (hillel.e.markowitz)
Subject: Re: Rascals: Have a heart?
Organization: AT&T Federal Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:36:13 GMT

In article <BxIHFy.4IH@cup.hp.com> runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan) writes:
>Charles Hessenius (CH8305A@auvm.american.edu) wrote:
>>     Picard's artificial heart does present a poser.  While I've
>>never been one to let the techo-babble get in the way of a good
>>story (and Rascal's was not THE worst), Dr. Crusher's genetic message
>>inserted into the transport beam MAY have caused Picard to have a new
>>human heart IF they rapidly aged in a normal but accelerated way in
>>the beam.  
>
>  At first, I thought you had one, but it isn't a problem.  The energy
>field masked sequences and caused the current body to be returned as
>a child.  It did not add/delete anything, just reversed the aging
>process.  In other words, the young Picard's heart must have been
>just as artificial (it had no age) as the older Picard's heart.  A
>new heart was not regenerated during the original transporter beam
>across because their bodies were not regrown from scratch, they were
>merely shifted.
>  Now, does the size of the heart matter (i.e. does the heart grow
>considerable between 12 years old and Picard's age/size).  This doesn't
>matter as much if the artificial heart that was put into Picard was
>smaller than a normal heart to begin with.  Since no problem arose
>with regard to his chest organs, we can assume that the artificial
>heart is smaller and can easily fit in a 12 year old body.  Ain't
>24th century technology wonderful?
>
>Mark Runyan  {r.a.s. random rationalizer}


The new heart was actually a cloned heart and was therefore not
artificial.  As far as biology is concerned, it was just the same
as his original heart and would therefore have gone to the same age
as the rest of his body.  There would therefore have been no
problem.

Hillel Markowitz        H_Markowitz@att.com
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From: bbs-hrick@jwt.UUCP (Rick Harrison)
Subject: A Fistful of Datas comment
Reply-To: bbs-hrick@jwt.UUCP
Organization: The Matrix
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 04:54:51 GMT

"A Fistful of Datas" is not a very serious episode... more
like "The Trouble with Tribbles"... those of you who have pet
cats will identify with Data's encounter with Spot.  But it
seemed to me that the cat playing Spot is not a very good
actor.  They dubbed a "meow" onto the soundtrack when the
cat obviously was not meowing, and Spot ran away from his
food without even sniffing it once... can't they get a decent
cat actor to play this role?!
From: jpt@veralyn.uucp (Jeffrey P. Temple)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Clinton won!
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 16:31:38 PST
Distribution: ca
Organization: Veralyn, Inc.

firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith) writes:

> 
> 
> So can we stop with the political flames already?
> 
> Firestar
> -- 

Pal, they've just begun.
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From: dfrancis@tronsbox.xei.com (Dennis Heffernan)
Subject: Re: Holodeck etiquette (or lack of it!)
Organization: Xanadu Enterprises Inc.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 05:43:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.144503.2057@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> raudenbc@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
|OK...What if Picard and Riker were holding on to opposite ends of a rope?
|(A real rope...not a holodeck rope).

	IF they were still within the physical confines of the holodeck, no
problem.  If they weren't, I imagine it would do the holographic tricks to
make the visual part look right, break the rope, and simulate the tension on
it with tractor beams.

	(If >I< designed the holodeck and someone tried a stunt like that, I'd
just have it beam them into vacuum....)


Dennis F. Heffernan  dfrancis@tronsbox.xei.com e4461005@apollo.montclair.edu
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From: mapmh@gdr.bath.ac.uk (M Hagger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: A few things Ive noticed.
Date: 11 Nov 92 10:00:21 GMT
Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK

In the referenced article, cnk@rgm.com (Claims No Knowledge) writes:
>>Did anyone else notice that Data is A leftie?

>I figured that since Data is an android, he would be ambidextrous, so it
>wouldn't matter WHAT hand he wrote with.
>
>cnk
Clearly his designer, realising that left handed is best, made him like
that deliberately.

Mark
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From: annie@fatboy.manassas.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: Picard's background
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 18:23:48 GMT
Reply-To: kaylar@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM, Federal Systems Company

The europeans that I know (some german, some french, some italian)
speak english with a british accent.  
Makes sense, I suppose, given that England is a lot closer than USA.

In article <74319@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt0552c@prism.gatech.EDU (PILCHER,DAVID ANDREW) writes:
|> 
|> 	Okay, this episode (RASCALS) brought up a question that I've had for
|> a long time.  I'm an huge ST:TNG fan, but I don't read these r.a.s.* things
|> very often, so I hope this ain't a FAQ.
|> 
|> 	Jean-Luc Picard, both in geezer and rug-rat form has a distinctively
|> british accent (especially as a kid).  Yet, his name is inherently french.
|> Why?  Was he born in France but grow up in England?  I know somebody knows
|> the answer to this out there.  Of course the REAL answer is obvious: Patrick
|> Stewart was the best choice for the part, and he IS brittish.  So why didn't
|> the ST folks just rename Jean-Luc Picard as John Pickard?
|> 
|> 							Pilch 
|> -- 
|> PILCHER,DAVID ANDREW
|> Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
|> uucp:	  ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt0552c
|> Internet: gt0552c@prism.gatech.edu

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From: annie@fatboy.manassas.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: identify episode
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 12:55:49 GMT
Reply-To: kaylar@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM, Federal Systems Company

In article <BxBE40.AB6@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>, mfjjd@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Joseph J. Dobson) writes:
|> Can anyone tell me the name of the episode from the fourth season of 
|> ST TNG in which Worf kills Duras (sp?)?

Reunion

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From: pattecd@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Holodeck Programming
Date: 8 Nov 92 22:44:43 CST
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

     Okay, what would happen if someone, let's say Geordi, went into
the holodeck and asked it to recreate the current Enterprise
(NCC-1701-D).  Then, he goes aboard THAT Enterprise, and does the same
thing, and he does this, say, 20 times.  Now, let's have each
Enterprise on a totally different mission.  What could possibly
happen?

     Possible scenario:

          Geordi suddenly hears Picard's voice over the loudspeaker
and say, "Commander LaForge, please report to the bridge."
          Geordi:  "Which one?!?!"
          Picard:  "Which one what?"

          Geordi:  "Computer, where am I?"
          Computer:  "You are on board the Enterprise."
          Geordi:  "AAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!"
          Geordi suffers nervous breakdown.
 
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Subject: Sirtis' body
From: <PAB7@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 21:54:50 EST
Organization: Penn State University

Marina Sirtis is actually not fat--she's quite thin, as even cursory inspection
of her protruding collarbones will demonstrate (and God knows, we've had enough
opportunities to inspect them).  What she is, is short. In a world where Petite
fashion models start at 5'7" and runway models hit 6', Sirtis's 5'3" is a lot
less than audiences are used to looking at.  The length-to-width ratio of her
frame is also much smaller: she looks wider than we perceive as correct as a
result.  Compare the ratio of the length of her waist (hip bones to bust) to
the width of her hip bones: it's a lot smaller than, say, Denise Crosby's,
although Crosby's hips are actually just as wide.  Sirtis could lose weight
until she was emaciated (she's not all that far from it now) and her butt would
still look relatively larger than that of a taller, longer-waisted woman. Her
bones are just proportioned shorter and wider than is now thought most
attractive. An analogous analysis can be made of the frames of Burton and
Spiner, one having a much smaller length-to-width ratio than the other. If
Burton was female, we'd probably hear a lot about his butt (or something)
looking too big.
    Sirtis also isn't actually all that busty, though I know that's hard to
believe; she's not much larger than average.  What she is, is well-supported.
It is said that at conventions she will give the name of the manufacturer of
the bustier she wears, which is said to be so tight that she sometimes faints.
Anyone who has been professionally upholstered in such a garment will look like
a test tube with something bubbling out at the top, even if there's not much
natural material to work with. The elevation and curvature attained can be
altered by changing the upholstery, so she may look more busty in some roles
than in others.
     She may be shorter & wider than is now thought most pleasing, but I think
she's a really beautiful woman.
                                            --Patty
From: conn@math.psu.edu (Bill Conn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: KAHN's last name?
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:07:07 GMT
	<1992Nov12.043042.12703@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
	<1992Nov12.155018.15821@netcom.com>
Distribution: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: Department of Mathematics, Pennsylvania State University

>   ...the Kahn Noonian Singh that led the Eugenics Wars on Terra is the
>  same Kahn featured in the Original Series, Space Seed, as well as the
>  second movie. Remember, he's a genetically engineered superman who
>  could live much longer than normal humans.
>   As for any relationship between him and Dr. Noonian Soong, I very much
>  doubt it. =)
>   -- 
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Out of curiosity I checked James Blish's adaptation of "Space Seed".
It states the name as - Sibahl Kahn Noonien.  So this would be Khan
Noonien, Sibahl - right?  I'm sure this has been discussed a zillion
times (like everything else).

  -Bill
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From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Subject: Re: Trekkies get a life
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:34:17 GMT

smoy@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Sharon Moy) writes:

>   In response to the articles 'critics need to get alife'...
>   why dont you Trekkies try it?

>   You are so obsessive over what is just a tv programme, i had a friend
>   write on the net he didnt think much of one of the seasons and you should
>   have seen som of the vitriolic replies, some were very nasty indeed.

>   So, why dont yoe get out of your rooms, and go and find lives yourselves?
>   Next to amoeba you are the lowest form of life.

>   ALL REPLIES IF YOU ARE OUTRAGED TO BE POSTED ON THE NET...I DO NOT WANT 
>   MY EMAIL FULL OF YOUR LETTERS.


I'm not outraged, but I think this was a little uncalled for.  Who are you to 
tell others what to do. Excuse me, but we HAVE lives.  There are those who like
the show a lot and get  a little tense when someone says something bad, but
it is comparable to gals who watch soaps all the time...they know the tiniest
details of what is going on with whomever.  Or guys with football.  What is 
your favorite show?  I'm sure that there are those on here that would like
to say a few words about it...and you might say that it wouldn't bother you.
And it may not, but if it does, think about what you said here.  It is all
the same.  There are a lot of people in this country who consider themselves
"Trekkers"...over 50% do.  Lawyers, doctors, astronauts, police officers..
the list can go on.  If you don't like the show, then just forget it...don't
post insults and be rude about it.  

To your friend who was flamed for what he posted,  all I can say is that I'm
sorry that he recieved such flames and replies.

By the way, I found the line "Next to the amoeba, you are the lowest form of
life" rather funny.  Very original.


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