From: wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Nobody of Consequence)
Newsgroups: sci.physics,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.skeptic,alt.conspiracy,alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Warp-Drive, Sub-Space Communication, Transporters and all that.
Followup-To: sci.skeptic,rec.arts.startrek.tech
Date: 24 Jan 1993 23:03:03 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: doc.cc.utexas.edu

In article <C1C7Cy.Grz@well.sf.ca.us> sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti) writes:
]
]From Star Fleet Command 21st Century
]Memorandum for the record to physicists in 1993.

1) Star Trek occurs in the 23rd Century.
2) Sending such data violates the Prime Directive by exposing
   a lower tech society to knowledge before it is ready.
3) Nevermind that this would risk a major causality error that
   would give the Guardian of Forever a stroke.
 
]On the Super-Physics of Sub-Space Communication, Warp-Drive and Matter-
]Teleporters.

Note to readers: *NEVER* trust anyone stupid enough to put "Super-" this and
that to describe a higher level of science/technology. Such claims are for
sensationalist hucksters. BTW, it's subspace, warp drive and transporters,
thank you.
 
]Comments by Sarfatti enclosed by *...* - fantasize them as "telepatypes"
]received by Sarfatti's creative unconscious mind in 1993 from Star Fleet
]Command at the Presidio in San Francisco from not too far in our future.
]
]>From hinson@physics.purdue.edu Sat Jan 23 07:44:58 1993
]
]>You wrote about how subspace communications travel faster than light.
]
]* Do you mean "subspace communications travel faster than light" or
]"subspace communications, travel (faster than light)". That is, we must
]distinguish between subspace communication faster than light and travel
]faster than light.
]
]I will take the terms "subspace communication" and "quantum connection
]communication" as meaning the same. In subspace communication information
](bits) is transferred "pre-metrically" across arbitrary spacetime intervals
]between sender and receiver with no corresponding "travel" in the sense of
]intermediary mass-energy.
]
]Faster than light transport of mass-energy, not to be confused with
]subspace communication can be of two kinds.
]
]One is globally faster than light but locally slower than light (e.g.,
]"Warp-drive" passage of a star ship in real time through a traversable worm
]hole supported by exotic matter in imaginary time). The warp drive of the
]U.S.S. Enterprise works by amplifying a quantum wormhole that surrounds the
]ship.

BZZZZZZT!!!!! The warp drive system lowers Plank time around the ship, 
allowing FTL travel.

At least that's what I heard! :)
 
]>I thought you might want to read a full blown analysis of the problems
]with faster than light travel.
]
]Note: this was written for the alt.arts.startrek.tech newsgroup.

you mean rec.arts.startrek.tech?
 
]*You greatly under-estimate me. I feel like Cyrano De Bergerac in the duel
]with the upstart who told him that his nose was too big!*

Don't flatter yourself.
 
]>The best way to read the article may be to make a hard copy.  I
]refer back a few times to a Diagram in the first section, and to have it
]readily available would be nice.
]
]*How condescending of you! But you do it so politely and elegantly that I
]am amused. You would be a good kindergarten teacher - such patience is to
]be admired. I think your exposition is basically useful for trekkies and
]other sci fi addicts. That is why I include it here to post to other places
]where it may be of educational value to the under-educated masses yearning
]to know the secrets of time and existence.*
]
]>I hope you can learn a little something from reading this, or at
]least strengthen your understanding of that which you already know.
]Your comments and criticisms are welcome, especially if they indicate
]improvements that can be made for future posts.
]And now, without further delay, here it is.
]
]*Thank you, I, too, hope you learn something from my comments.*

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Email:wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu    |life, the path of survival and destruction
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Blackmarks: Politically Incorrect   |Famous Last Words:                        
(hobbies)   Anime Otaku/Trekker     |--If you cut me down, I will only become
            Technocentric           |more powerful...  
            Netrekker (claypigeon)  |--Shhh!! There it is again....           
            Whole bunch of -isms    |--Use the bazooka to open the door...
     Won't remove Sun Tzu quote to  |--I cut the red wire...
     make the Greens happy ;)       |--I have a *very* bad feeling about this
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