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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:56:18 CDT
Reply-To:     Michael J Graven <mjg@nwu.edu>
From:         Michael J Graven <mjg@NWU.EDU>
Subject:      The sole of a new machine
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Natalie writes:

> Am I banging when I'm not vi'ing??

Oh, what a multitude of opportunities here...no.  But some would say
that using vi is like banging your head against the keyboard.  Others
of us would vehemently disagree whilst spouting things like "colon
w q!"  "colon bang who pipe sort pipe more!"

> What are csh bangs?

csh, among other shells, maintains a "history" of your most recent n
commands.  Usually, n is somewhere around a hundred.

You can start a command line with a bang (!) followed immediately by
the first few letters of a prior command and the csh will search back
in time and re-execute a command it finds that matches your specification.

Ex:

casbah % ls src
hello.c
casbah % !ls
!ls src
hello.c
casbah %

However, in tcsh it's generally easier to use ^P and ^N to peruse your
history file manually.  I think you can hit !! to repeat the last command.

The Korn Shell (/bin/ksh) uses vi-style line editing commands -- remember
when I forwarded you that bit about what editing keys you can use in
tcsh to edit your command lines?  like that -- which are more intuitive
to those of us who blast code all day in vi.

>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

--mjg

--
-Michael                          "We were at it like a raven on a road kill."
mjg@nwu.edu       -- Dan Rather, on Ross Perot's leaving the presidential race
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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
Subject: baby news?
Reply-To: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 05:36:37 GMT



Has anyone heard anything from the Diffily crew?  Any pitter pattering of
new feet yet?  Old feet?  Lots of feet as New Daddy passes out on the
delivery room floor?<grin>

BTW - does anyone have a good recommendation for posting jam, mango variety?
[ask Anne when she's back on line again :-) ]
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:42:07 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: The sole of a new machine
Comments: To: words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu

> that using vi is like banging your head against the keyboard.  Others

I like vi.

> However, in tcsh it's generally easier to use ^P and ^N to peruse your
> history file manually.  I think you can hit !! to repeat the last command.

I just remembered that I changed from csh to tcsh a long time ago.  But
I've never noticed any differences.  I've used csh on other systems and
on other people's accounts (in their presence) since changing mine to tcsh.
Nothing seems different.  But then I don't have any desire to look at my
history file.  Why would I care which commands I've used today?  If I
want to see my last few commands, I would use Procomm's scrollback.

> The Korn Shell (/bin/ksh) uses vi-style line editing commands -- remember
> when I forwarded you that bit about what editing keys you can use in
> tcsh to edit your command lines?  like that -- which are more intuitive
> to those of us who blast code all day in vi.

That's right!  I saved all that info somewhere in my Ra-Stuff/ directory
to look at when I had time.  Then I forgot...
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:08:35 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Good evening to you all
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              14 Aug 1992 20:36:56 EDT from
              <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>

On Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:36:56 EDT Karen Kay said:
>6PM.  This is another thing my mom taught me (like wearing white).

   23 minutes late, but pretty close for a small town girl.

>> (2) Do any of you ever use "Good night" as a greeting instead of a farewell?
>
>Not in English.

once again, great minds working together and thinking the same

dan
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 02:54:36 MED
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
Subject:      Re: Let's try this again, shall we?
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The ministerv for fun (Davil Mllor) is for real.
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:07:00 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK%IUBACS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Gender

>     Oh, Mka.  I shouldn't have teased you.  Now you're back in
>     flaming reactionary mode -- just when the Indians were sitting
>     down for a nice cup of tea.

>     Carol

Reactionary?  Maybe.  I can be a flaming feminist too--when the
argument makes sense or the issue feels right.  And I don't have
anything against the political argument over sexism in language.
The Indians may win that one sooner or later.  I just didn't want
to give up the fort, in the end, about English being objectively
sexist.  If I use he/him its *not* evidence that I'm an MCP.
(Male Chauvinist Pedant ?)  Or that the language is.

But was what I was saying reactionary?  What about what I said
about personhood and blacks--*is* it racist to use person in
connection with blacks because blacks have not always been
included in the meaning of person?

Reactionary?  Little ol' me?

-Mka
Entropy's less than what you make of it.
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 23:41:33 EDT
From:         Tony Harminc <TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      Re: 0/1

On Wed, 19 Aug 1992 03:15:03 EDT Karen Kay said:
>It's funny this was brought up today--I just got mail misaddressed
>to me as 1123 rather than LL23.

But you *did* get it.  Intelligent software or a nice person ?

Tony H.
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 06:12:44 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The D-words
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> Natalie thinks the d* is the *<easy>* part?!   I wish she'd been around to
> tell me how to manage that -- I slogged through that !@#@$%^&* by sheer
> force and brute will power, gained twenty pounds because I just sat there
> eating choclate chip cookies, sent my kids out of town for the summer and
> wouldn't let my husband <speak> to me unless I'd finished a chapter.

I didn't say that a *good* dissertation was easy... just a passable one.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
     REALLY logging off now...
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:46:26 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Not being taken for an American
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> > study in Bordeaux, I spoke without an identifying accent (people assumed I
> > was Canadian, German, Scandinavian, never American).  At the end of my stay
> Maybe it helps that French people usually think I'm German.  But why would

When I was in Paris, people constantly spoke to me on the street and
in the metro (there was a metro strike on).  But no one explained what
they thought I was. Has any American ever been taken for an American
abroad?

I spent a lovely afternoon in the Montreal Botanical Garden w/ my
friend Luc last summer trying to figure out from people's` looks where
they came from.  Unfortunately we seldom got confirmation.  (We were in
front of the fountain so we couldn't use speech as a clue.)

Karen
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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1992 14:42:58 CDT
From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Internet outage
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>everything (including removing modem cord from phone jack) during storms
>or when I'm going out of town.


Not that this thread is interesting any more, but for the record I do unplug
televisions and computers before leaving town. But being online and seeing a
storm come up, forget it, I'm not getting offline for that.

-abh
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1992 16:43:10 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Westerns
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I rented City Slickers and watched it today--when it finished, I
found Fort Apache on the same station.  (At least I'm pretty sure
that' what it is...I don't think they've said.  It's a gerat film
(John Wayne and Henry Fonda) whatever it is.

Which brings me to what I've been forgetting to ask for weeks--the
video stores around here seem to have a lot of westerns, but I've
seen very few of them, and would like some recommendations, please.
Do your guys'video stores (your all's? y'all's?) have a section of
westerns?  (I expect the tenetters to, wonder about the rest.)

Karen
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:21:37 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Next Year's Event
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> >     happy to be thinking about WORDS-L parties instead of the
> >     *TOTALLY INCOMPETENT AND STUPID* MSU Bookstore...
>
>    ok....i'll bite....what did they do to you besides forget to order your
> books for this semester....???

Just the usual.  When I went to check on fall books this morning, I found
an empty shelf for Intro to Linguistics, with a card saying "out of stock --
shipment expected around Sept. 25."  Isn't that neat.  Classes start
August 17.  And the book orders were turned in last MARCH.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:05:00 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK%IUBACS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      E-mail feminists

>Japanese (perhaps even citizen, but not the 'racial component').  Why do
>you folks continue to use bad analogies  -  comparing bananas and
>straberries?
>
>JAG

The fact is that bananas and strawberries *can* be compared, and
as the person responsible for beginning this thread about male
feminists, I think I ought to say a few words.

What I said that made Le Pig want to puke was that I can be a
feminist when the argument or issue seems/feels right.  I did not
mean to say that I am a feminist.  I only *meant* to say that
there are "feminist" arguments/issues that I support.

There's a lovely story about Voltaire at the age of eighty-one
going up on a mountain with a friend to watch the sun rise.  It
was magnificent, and Voltaire fell down on his knees and said, "I
believe in you, oh powerful God."  As he was walking down with
his friend, he is reported to have said, "As for Monsieur his son
and Madame his mother, that is another story."

And I believe the anthropologists recognize two necessary
conditions for membership in a group: 1) that the person consider
himself a member; and 2) that the group consider him a member.
The argument about whether a man can be a feminist has nothing to
do with the definition of the word.  It's about whether the other
feminists are going to let men in--and why or why not.

Apropos bananas and strawberries--does one have to be black to be
a member of the civil rights movement?  To be a civil rights
activist?

-Mka
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:09:34 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Slooooooow
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> Posted on 18 Aug 1992 at 14:15:37 by JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS
> John, who got called Jack again today...but never what he wants to be called..

So what do you want to be called?

Karen
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 09:43:05 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: EMERGENCY
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> Judith may have a phone number to contact Tushar and Patrick in NY.

If she does, it's probably written down in Providence, where she won't be
again until next Tuesday, I think.

> have a quarter system, and school doesn't start for another two weeks
> atleast.
>
> Maybe they just drove back to Chicago without stopping here.

Or maybe they were having so much fun in NY or wherever that they decided
to wait until the last possible moment to head back to Chicago.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 16:34:41 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      New Family Member
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	Well, some of you knew that my little kitten Thalia
Dingleberry flew the coop a few weeks back.

	Since all of us here at the Rouvalis-Garcia ranch were
feeling a bit lonely without a kitty #2, Nico and I went down to
the Boston Animal Rescue League and got ourselves a 9-week-old
black-and-white little girl kitten.

	Ursula Kala is a hellion and a half who is currently tormenting
TinkerKitty (15-year-old retired barn cat) and tearing around the
apartment eating my plants and generally causing trouble.

	She'll be posting as soon as I teach her to type..

Rita
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:57:00 GMT
From:         WERTSJ <WERTSJ%DIALOG@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: How to breed a Cubs fan
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>   Once a Cubs fan, always a Cubs fan.

>Kinda like being a Broncos fan...just can't explain it to those that ren'ta
>in the "family".

>   Steph

>//anne//

As a child, the only major sporting events my family ever attended
were Cubs games (actually, it was my mother, my two sisters and me -
Dad wasn't really interested in sports much).  Mom used to drive us
to Chicago (from South Bend, Indiana), wrestle with the parking
problem, and get us there in time for batting practice.  I remember
Mom and my older sister teaching me and my younger sister how to
score the game, and the three of us girls sat there and all scored it
- a bit of overkill, I admit.  I don't ever remember *not* being a
Cubs fan.  We usually sat in the left-field bleachers, or in the
grandstands by third base.

Now, football, that was another story...I never really liked it much,
until I moved to Denver in 1983.  If I didn't watch the Broncos'
games on Sundays (during football season, of course), there was no
one to talk to on Mondays at work, because all anyone would talk
about was the game.  So, out of self-defense, I started
watching...and I got hooked!

So, //anne//, I guess it's a natural, eh?  I'm a Cubs *and* Broncos
fan!

Jill
   (wertsj%dialog@mcimail.com)

(P.S.  Oops, I guess the Cubs were the only major *professional*
sporting events...we did also go to Notre Dame basketball and hockey
games.  Notre Dame fans are quite...interesting, as well.)
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:51:00 GMT
From:         WERTSJ <WERTSJ%DIALOG@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      re: Yes, I'm an e-wimp
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>maybe not.)HEY, does anybody have any wisdom on why Pat Buchanan
>thinks Hillary Clinton is a radical feminist ? I'd love to introduce
>him to a few women I know. Gotta keep things in perspective here
>Pat. Oh, am I rambling? (This is usually about the point where
>one of my kids gives me a gentle reminder like, "Shut up,Dad")
>Sorry, I'll be quiet
>                                                 Br Paul

No wisdom here, but it seems to me that Buchanan and Rich Bond, among
others, have focussed on Hillary Clinton's work with regard to
children's rights.  They keep bringing up the _divorce your parents_
issue, apparently in an effort to *expose* her as a destroyer of the
American family unit (as defined by them, and only by them!).  She is
a strong, independent woman (or at least she was until she became a
Stepford wife out of political necessity (or perceived political
necessity)), and that seems to qualify her for the radical feminist
label.

I watched the Democratic convention, and I'm watching the Republican
one, too (or at least as much as my schedule will allow).  It's
fascinating to see the same words used, such as *family values*
(...this phrase, by the way, I've come to hate...), but with such
different meaning (and varying inclusiveness).  It's also been very
interesting listening to some of C-Span's call-in shows; during the
Democratic convention, most of the questions were about Perot and
about Clinton, but (so far) the questions I've heard now during the
Republican convention are also about Clinton (rather than about Bush)
and his positions...I don't know what it means, but it is interesting.

I had not watched this much of a convention before (probably a good
choice!), and I'm getting very weary of the _preaching to the choir_
nature of them.  It is interesting to see, tho, exactly which issues
and positions get the strongest response from each choir.

Jill
   (wertsj%dialog@mcimail.com)
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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
Subject: RE: Gender
Reply-To: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 06:25:27 GMT


In a previous article, gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL (Graham Toal) says:

>> Would a voodoo practitioner?
>
>I dunno.  Would you do that voodoo that you do so well?
>
Ohhhh voodoo, something to me, that nobody else can do......

Voodoo something to me,
something that simply mystifies me.....
Tell me, why should it be....
you have the power to hypnotize me....


-- 
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
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Subject: Re: The sole of a new machine
Date: 20 Aug 92 22:35:30 GMT
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maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU ("Natalie Maynor") writes:
> What are csh bangs?

The exclamation point character (!) is often read as "bang".
In csh one can use this character to repeat at earlier command.
Consider the following imaginary session on ra:

ra> ls -a
.               ..              bernard.gif     core            mbox
ra> whoami
maynor
ra> uptime
  3:25pm  up 10 days,  2:15,  2 users,  load average: 0.53, 0.57, 0.49
ra> !l
ls -a
.               ..              bernard.gif     core            mbox
ra> [etc.]

The shell finds the most recent command that starts with the character
sequence after the "!" and executes it (in this case the "ls -a" three
commands back).

--karsten

("Exclamation point" has too many syllables...)
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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1992 22:31:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Yo' mama
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> > <de puta madre> as in....   Ay, esta es una playa de puta madre!
> > Non-peninuslar hispanics often do not understand that this means
> > "fantaaastic!")
>
> I *know* I heard this in a movie!  Those of us who work w/ Truly
> Foreign Languages sneer at the thought of doing something as banal
> as actually *learning* one of those lgs. that are Cognate With
> English.  So I've been wondering about this one for a while. Whew!
>
> Karen

Probably heard it in an Almodovar movie....  his lead actors love to
talk this way.
--ggs
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
 <DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Taking Names and Kicking Butts

*** Resending note of 08/13/92 10:09

>It's awfully nice to have you back Don--I missed you.
>
>2Judith who is on her second diet coke of the morning and always
>        ready for a refill

Thanks 2Judith!  One diet coke coming up, which just happens to be what
I am drinking right now to complement my barf bars.
From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
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Date: 11 Aug 92 21:07:00 GMT
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Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM writes,
>     Carol "bite they little heads off, nibble on they tiny feet"

Is this applying to mice, or to your fellow WORDS-L readers?

-Shag
-- 

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From: bayla@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bayla Singer)
Subject: Re: gonadological oppression
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:48:06 GMT


Karen comes right out with:


>A man who calls himself a feminist--it's like me going around saying
>I'm Japanese. 


And I flat out disagree.  If the man called himself a *female*, it might be
like Karen calling herself a Japanese.

And 'ism'is something to believe in, as 'monarchism,' 'deism,' 'atheism,'
and so on.  If 'feminism' the ism is simply equated with being female, then

     (a) we have lost a useful distinction in the langauge

     (b) wea re reduced to perpetual moaning about our sorry opressed lot,
because there won't ever be a *hope* of non-females getting a clu, and so
no prospect for improvement in male-female relations.

Shall I stop contributing to the Negro College Fund?

--bayla
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:30:04 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Eeek! It's fall!!!!
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I just looked out the window of my office a few minutes ago to
rest my eyes, and lo and behold, the beautiful maple that is right
outside has already begun to turn!!!!  Just a few leaves so far,
but it's *VERY* early for leaves to start changing.  Reminds me
of being in Ile St. Helene last August when the leaves had begun
to change.

Karen
who hates winter and doesn't have a Grant to keep her warm....
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1992 21:40:20 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Back formations
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> natalie, what;'s your source for editor coming before edit?  Partridge's
> "Origins" says edit is the root, from L. 'editus', pp of 'edere'.

I don't have a particular source in mind.  It's one of the examples of
back-formations given just about every time anybody discusses them.
I'll look in a dictionary now....

American Heritage Dictionary: "edit ... [Back-formation < EDITOR.]"

   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:24:00 MST
From:         "JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS"
 <WILLIAMS%MC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: fuzzy headed distortion

Ah, must be some more of those people who've scissored the word "empathy"
from their dictionaries...
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