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From: jfurr@vtssi.vt.EDU (Joel Furr)
Newsgroups: alt.appalachian
Subject: from the alt.appalachian archive (the West Virginia capitol dome)
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:21:40 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science

Subject: Capitol Dome
From: singletn@eagle.larc.nasa.gov (Jeff Singleton)
Date: 7 Jul 92 14:08:01 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center -  Hampton, VA USA

   Glenn Stone writes:
 
   4) What do you like least about the Appalachian region, either specific
   to one location or generally?

   Orange criks, corrupt politicians, Senator Byrd, and the capitol dome in 
   Charleston.
                                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm curious as to what in particular you don't like about the dome. Having
been born and raised in Charleston, and having a father who worked in the
Capitol building for over 40 years, I would have to guess that you are
somewhat bothered by the various color schemes it has been painted with
throughout the years. Here is a brief rundown of it's history for the
uninitiated:

The early years (mid 20s to 1932) - under construction, gold leaf applied to
            dome. After less than a decade in the polluted air of the Kanawha
            Valley the gold leaf begins to flake off. My Dad says folks used
            to walk the grounds of the Capitol collecting the stuff (this was
            during the Depression). Gold leaf was specified by the architect -
            Cass Gilbert.

Early 40's to early 70's (at least since I came into this world in 1962) - The
            dome is painted various shades of gold and blue. Since at least
            1962 it was a combination of State Highway Yellow and Blue - not
            very pretty, but the paint was cheap and readily available.

1975 - Governor Arch Moore, as one of his final acts, orders gold leaf be
            reapplied to the dome. All the gold is purchased and the dome is
            stripped of paint when Arch loses the election to Jay Rockefeller.
            Citing the poor economy at that time, Jay sells the gold and buys
            some fancy paint instead at $54 per gallon. At least the colors
            are Old Gold and Blue (really Navy Blue). Within two years the
            paint has already dulled and is beginning to flake off.

1976 to the mid 80's - Dome continues to look _REAL_ bad. In fact the blue
            turns to black and the running joke in Charleston is that it is
            now the color of coal - hence the Coal Dome.

Mid 80's to 1991 - Efforts to apply gold leaf to the dome once again begin in
            earnest. The project was finally completed in 1991. Today it looks
            really good. Hopefully the air is clean enough now that the gold
            will last a while before blowing away.

jeff singleton The High, 1980
Newsgroups: alt.appalachian
From: jfurr@vtssi.vt.EDU (Joel Furr)
Subject: alt.appalachian user poll
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:19:19 GMT

Listen up!  It's the alt.appalachian user poll!

Please answer the following questions, and post your responses to the net
(don't mail them to me, post them to alt.appalachian for all to read!):

1) Where were you born and/or raised?  Outside Appalachia, or if you were born
and/or raised in Appalachia, where?

2) Where are you presently living?  Outside Appalachia, or if you are
presently living in Appalachia, where?

3) What do you like best about the Appalachian region, either specific to one
location or generally?

4) What do you like least about the Appalachian region, either specific to one
location or generally?

I look forward to reading your responses.  Please be creative!

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Joel Furr                                                   jfurr@vtssi.vt.edu
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                           alt.appalachian -- try it!
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 27 Aug 1992 15:41:51 MST
From: <AQMPH@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.appalachian
Subject:    Quilting Survey

I just returned from a trip home (to West Virginia) and while I was there, I
assisted on a research project conducted by the Department of Social Sciences
at West Virginia Tech.  Apparently, several years ago, the Smithsonian sold
the rights to many American quilting patterns to the Chinese who immediately
began mass producing quilts to be sold in the US as "American Quilts".  Well,
as most of us know, this can be very misleading since most of us don't read the
fine print on the tags attached to purchases.  As a result, LandsEnd
(spelling?) decided to take up the cause of American quilting and asked Cabin
Creek Quilters (an association of cottage quilters) to produce 500 quilts a
month to be sold through their catalog.  CCQ said they could only give them 100
a month and LandsEnd agreed.

  As a result of the 'demand' for authentic American quilts, West Virginia Tech
applied and received a grant to study the cottage quilting industry in
Appalachia.  The Dept. of Social Sciences mailed out surveys to cottage
quilters trying to find out info regarding production of quilts, barriers to
marketing quilts, etc.  I interviewed several of the quilters (who had
forgotten to return their questionnaires or who were suspicious, as many
Appalachians are).  It was very interesting.  Being a quilter myself and
working in research, it was the 'perfect' job (though it was as a volunteer).
The barriers these women face (both personal and via bureaucracy) are
amazing and unfortunate because this could be a significant source of income
for women and families who live in isolated areas where the economic
opportunities are very limited.


When the survey results are completed (within the next month or two) I'll
post them.  In the meantime, if you know of anyone who might be interested in
participating in the survey, have them call the Department of Social Sciences
at West Virginia Tech.


Mary
Newsgroups: alt.appalachian
From: trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight)
Subject: Re: Radio Station
Organization: Jes Grew Carriers -- Metaphysical Bunko Squad 
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 06:45:06 GMT


I think I heard this station when I was in Pennington Gap, VA a couple
of weeks ago.  I had the radio on 88.7, listening to a station out of
Spindale, NC (WNCW) and when I got to Pennington Gap, it started breaking
up and this down-home bluegrass station was on there.  I'm sure it was
in Kentucky, but I really have no idea where.  Don't find many stations
like that these days.

 
Trevor Bauknight         trev@hubcap.clemson.edu    ...gatech!hubcap!trev
 
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Newsgroups: alt.appalachian
From: gmclucki@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Gemma McLuckie)
Subject: Re: from the alt.appalachian archive (Connie Leinen on Appalachia)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:03:36 GMT

In article <9208251825.AA26194@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> jfurr@vtssi.vt.EDU (Joel Furr)
 writes:

Connie Leinen has given us a wonderful outline of Appalachian life. Thanks,
Connie.

Not all that she talks about applies to my family, but enough does to bring
back some memories!

When I was first married, I took my husband to see the cousins in Greenup, KY.
A Clevelander, he couldn't get over our habit of pouring flour gravy over fried
eggs and biscuits for breakfast.  He often brought it up when talking with
people about my family -- his tone while he talked about it probably added to
the demise of the marriage some years later! :-}

>The need for family. I'm sure it's true about the south in
>general, but Appalachians seem exceptionly adept at keeping track
>of the 2nd cousins-twice-removed-who-married-my-Great-Aunt-
>Cindy's-next-door-neighbor's-sister's-son-in-law's-brother.

Last weekend, we held the first BWR -- Brown Women Reunion of 40-something
first cousins from the Tink Brown/India Nichols family. There were only six of
us this year, but we hope to build the numbers at future reunions to include
all 24 or so of us.

What a fun time!

Talked about the family legends, the sad times of our lives,
geneaology (found out that we qualify as Daughters of the American Revolution,
if we ever want to wear white gloves and be civilized...HAH!), and about having
the wonderful opportunity to be wild and untamed during the summers (unlike our
children, who seemed to have every moment of their lives organized and
supervised by lessons and sports teams).

We told men-jokes (sorry, guys), and gossiped, and dispaired of those of our
children whose lives aren't going along the paths we mothers had envisioned for
them.

Other women in a.a: do you ever have these kinds of get-togethers?

Gemma McLuckie
From: jfurr@vtssi.vt.EDU (Joel Furr)
Newsgroups: alt.appalachian
Subject: from the alt.appalachian archive (Quilting)
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:21:09 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science

Subject: quilting
From: sally@nevada.edu (SALLY PHARES)
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services

Quilting has a very long history that extends to that continent on the other
side of the Atlantic!  Americans made quilting their own.  It was a method
to recycle leftover cloth and old clothing, yet a very practical way to
make warm coverings for beds (as well as some clothing).

Applachian women were quite good at this and apparently the craft was a 
talent that most women learned and used well into the 1940's.  The end
of the World War II caused a different attitude to occur and along with it, 
quilting became more of an expression than a functional requirement.  
It died out somewhat but during the 1970's, especially as we approached
1976 and celebration of the bicentennial, quilting was revived and many
appalachian women led the way.  

Personally I was glad to see the revival.  I was living in south Georgia
at the time and I too jumped on the quilting bandwagon!  I had learned to
quilt as a 9 year old girl growing up in W. Va., but had not done any
quilting in about 10 years.  The first thing I made was an applique
baby quilt for a friend of mine that was going to have a baby.  As it turned
out, she had the baby, they moved a few months later, her husband was 
killed a couple years later and I've lost track of her.  

Since that time I've made several quilts and currently have about 10
in various stages of completion.  I also joined the National Quilting
Association (NQA) some time ago.

Perhaps some of you could share memories/stories on quilting, history of
quilts, your experiences of making quilts more recently, preferences, etc.
From: ljhr@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.appalachian
Subject: Looking for a New Job
Date: 30 Aug 92 11:16:50 -0500

I'm looking for a new position in biological/entomological research.
I will be available in one year (Aug-Sept 1993).  My specialties are 
medical-veterinary entomology & descriptive-functional morphology of
aquatic fly larvae.  I will also consider teaching positions, state govern-
ment positions, and city-county positions.  CV, reprints, et al. on request.
Prefer northern West Virginia, southwestern Pennsylvania, eastern Ohio, 
western Virginia area, but anywhere in the Appalachian region considered.
Gotta get outta the Deep South!
Newsgroups: alt.appalachian
From: pkteagarden@bobcat.lmc.edu (Phil Teagarden)
Subject: Re: alt.appalachian user poll
Organization: Lees-McRae College, Banner Elk, NC
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:12:51 GMT

In article <9208251823.AA26117@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> jfurr@vtssi.vt.EDU (Joel Furr) writes:

>Listen up!  It's the alt.appalachian user poll!

>Please answer the following questions, and post your responses to the net
>(don't mail them to me, post them to alt.appalachian for all to read!):

>1) Where were you born and/or raised?  Outside Appalachia, or if you were born
>and/or raised in Appalachia, where?

>2) Where are you presently living?  Outside Appalachia, or if you are
>presently living in Appalachia, where?

Banner Elk, N.C.  Teach Biology at Lees-McRae College.

>3) What do you like best about the Appalachian region, either specific to one
>location or generally?

I like talking with and photographing the people and scenery.


>4) What do you like least about the Appalachian region, either specific to one
>location or generally?

The Tourist and insensitive people.

>I look forward to reading your responses.  Please be creative!

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>Joel Furr                                                   jfurr@vtssi.vt.edu
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>                           alt.appalachian -- try it!
From: cbrooks@ms.uky.edu (Clayton Brooks)
Newsgroups: alt.appalachian
Subject: Re: Star mention of Huntington, WV
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:48:31 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

jervis.1@nd.edu (R.allen Jervis) writes:

>There was an article in a recent STAR about the government spending money
>on bogus historical sites. One expense 2.7 million to renovate a
>Huntington,WV theatre that re-opened as a four screen mini-plex.
>This wouldn't be the Keith-Albee would it?
>-r.allen jervis
>late of Wayne County.

Yes, that's the one.
When they talk about pork-barrel projects in the news, that one is 
ranked #2 (#1 is Steamtown in Scranton, PA).

Keith-Albee's theater is quite impressive (the lobby is standard).
Lavish ornamentation is everywhere. A neat touch was the lights 
in the ceiling that simulated a starry night.

In the 70's, there was talk of demolishing it.
Fortunately, many of the residents organized resistance to that plan.
A compromise was to put up temporary walls to split up the theater 
into 3 smaller ones so that the owners would make a profit.

So that is the situation today.
The 2.7 million was to be used to return the Keith-Albee to its 
former glory.

Yes, it's a pork-barrel project but I don't see how it's any 
worse than the government spending lots of money obsolete 
military bases in other states.

Guess how much defense money goes to W.Va. (think small) 

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From: Dana.Schutte@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Dana Schutte)
Newsgroups: alt.appalachian
Subject: moonshine
Date: 29 Aug 92 03:31:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

Hello, my name is Dana Schutte, I grew up in Richmond, Va. Which is just on
the fringes of appalachian culture. My family has been in Richmond since 1830's
and brought with them winemaking skills. During prohibition, they changed 
their focus from wine to shine. My grandfather, along with one of his brothers,
ran shine from the Chickahominy Reservation into, what is now south richmond,
Chesterfield County. This liquor was sold to locals out the back of a bar/
restaurant known as The Cozy Corner. The bar, btw, is still in operation and
owned by the same family. They tell me there was even a still on the family
property for awhile as well. Unfortunately my great-uncle died just a few 
years ago and before then refused to tell me the receipe, which I wanted just
for family history sake.

Well the story was short, but I hope it was enjoyable, thanks.

Dana Schutte       pay2dms@cabell.vcu.edu 

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From: r0mill01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu (Robert Delius Royar)
Subject: RE: Quilting
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 08:29:04 GMT
Reply-To: r0mill01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Organization: University of Louisville

I saw an interesting play in 1986 at the Actors' Theater of Louisville 
called _The Quilters_.  It was a history of the American frontier told 
through the making, keeping, and usings of quilts.  I'm sorry I've no more 
information than that, but it is a play worth getting to if it comes to 
your area.

robert royar
From: gmclucki@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Gemma McLuckie)
Subject: death traditions
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:34:32 GMT

My mother came to visit last weekend, and I showed her a bunch of old photos I 
had just discovered in a box in my basement (I'm cleaning because I'm selling 
the place). We started talking about my grandmother and ended up talking about 
feather crowns.

Our family has a feather crown recovered from the pillow of a child who died 
when she was four or five.  Granny always said it was created by the angels who
took Roma to heaven.

According to an Associated Press article in the Cincinnati Enquirer, a 
researcher at Prestonburg Community College in Floyd County, KY., is studying 
Appalachian burial customs -- including feather crowns.

Marie Parsons, an associate professor of English, is gathering information on 
burial customs, superstitions, ghost stories and cemeteries.

"Among the most unusual practices was opening a dead person's pillows in search
of a feather crown," the story reads. "The objects are said to mysteriously 
form -- supposedly with no human involvement -- in connection with a soul's 
departure from heaven."

The custom is dying out (no pun intended) because today few people sleep on 
feather pillows, Parson said.

Do any of you have ghost stories, know about burial customs, or remember 
hearing about or seeing feather crowns?

Gemma McLuckie
From: pwwisnes@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Paul W. Wisneskey)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Pipes/Parks/etc.
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:02:45 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

Looking for some good half pipes/skate parks on the East coast that
allow rollerbladers.  Ever since Cedar Crest Country Club shut down
I've been SOL.  Appreciate any suggestions....
From: eab@msc.edu (Edward Bertsch)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Source for BIG wheels!!!!!
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:20:02 GMT
Organization: Minnesota Supercomputer Center, Minneapolis, MN

skates on haight has big wheels

	cross bones, 64 mm/95 dm for $23
	big balls, 65 mm/97 dm for $26

call carol at 1-800-554-1235 and let her know Ed Bertsch referred you to her


I bought one set of each of these, and their last set of t-bones (67mm/97dm!!!)


Thanks to Halloween Jack for the insight about small wheels, by the way!

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From: bryce@sdf.lonestar.org (Bryce Hamm)
Subject: Re: SkateBoarding In Texas
Organization: sdf Public Access UNIX, Dallas--unrestricted free shell access
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:49:09 GMT

yeah.. i agree.. when i can, i enjoy sneaking out for
a midnight skate.. but usually caught!!! ahh!! 
i hope they dont get this curfew back ..
From: bryce@sdf.lonestar.org (Bryce Hamm)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Skully Bros.
Date: 1 Sep 92 23:39:00 GMT
Organization: sdf Public Access UNIX, Dallas--unrestricted free shell access

Does anyone have the adress to skully brothers?
are they still around.. if so i wanna get a catalog
gotta buy a new deck.. :)  i used to see ads. in thrasher
all the time, but the thrasher i just bought had no ad..

argh..
bryce@sdf.lonestar.org
From: bryce@sdf.lonestar.org (Bryce Hamm)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: AHHH!! The Size of These WHEELS!!
Date: 1 Sep 92 23:36:50 GMT
Organization: sdf Public Access UNIX, Dallas--unrestricted free shell access

> It is a plot to get all the conformist skate rats to buy new
> equipment when they don't really need it.  The way it starts
> is one kid gets these little  "breath mint sized wheels" (my
> quote, [c] 1992 Ed Bertsch productions) and then he starts
> giving his friends a hard time
> "You've got to get rid of those ancient wheels" et cetera.
> Little do they know that these wheels are slower than wheels
> of the same hardness that are bigger...
Hmmm.. are they.. ahh well... they cost the same.. still sux
i guess i will get some.. i always gotta wait until i skate
them down, i guess now i dont have to.. but do some power
slides and your gona be sliding on your bearings really quick (heh.. :) )
yeah.. that is what they will say. i wondered why i bought
those wheels for 1$ each .. :) 
> skate conformity, I thought I'd never see it.
>             
i know it.. what a joke eh? hmmmm?
> You can find big wheels, however.  Call mail order places, ask
> what are the bigest wheels they have, and don't buy this small
> shit.

yah.. thanx for the info.. 

bryce@sdf.lonestar.org
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: 6o25@sdf.lonestar.org (Stephen M. Jones)
Subject: Re: SkateBoarding In Texas
Organization: sdf Public Access UNIX, Dallas--unrestricted free shell access
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:44:54 GMT

>You're just looking at the wrong time.  Here in Socorro, NM we skate after
>dark, usually 10pm or midnight.  It's just too hot otherwise.  When the fad
>died only the diehards stayed with it, cause chicks dig skaters :-).
>
>Night skating rules!  Under the new sodium-vapor lamps blood looks black.

agreed... but I have to work in the bakery!


bryce@sdf writes:

> yeah.. i agree.. when i can, i enjoy sneaking out for
> a midnight skate.. but usually caught!!! ahh!! 
> i hope they dont get this curfew back ..

hahaha  bryce... how old are you? a couple of years ago I was skating
at 3am at a bank (at a Bank) a cop pulled in and said "how old are you?"
I said "19" she said "okay, be careful"   COOLEST COP IN TEXAS! heha

I will remember that night for the rest of my life.


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Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: eab@msc.edu (Edward Bertsch)
Subject: Re: Boston Globe re. inliners
Organization: Minnesota Supercomputer Center, Minneapolis, MN
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:28:03 GMT

why don't you just go out and have a skate session, writing about writing
about skating on the internet is dumb.

In article <1992Aug21.213109.23695@kronos.arc.nasa.gov>, joshr@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Joshua Rabinowitz-Summer-91) writes:
|> why don't you guys just go out and have a skate session?
|> writing about skating over the internet is dumb ( ;-}
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> ----------------------------------
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|> joshr@kronos.arc.nasa.gov
|> "Send a salami to your boy in the army" - Katz's delicatessen, NYC

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