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From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: AFC TEAMS STINK
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:40:29 GMT
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Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Nov16.175612.24303@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:
>So Miami scored 11 points above  its average, in what was its second
>highest output of the year!  No, I'm sorry, what decided the game was
>Miami's offense running circles around the Bears D.
Yep, Miami fully deserved the win in December. Injury or not, it was part of
the game. 

However, you are predicting the result of a hypothetical rematch
based on incomplete data. 

In a hypothetical Super Bowl, the Dolphins offense might be able to run 
circles around the Bears D again, they might also be sitting on the 
bench while the Bears running game wearing down the stingless Bees.
Who knows?

Supposed all the Pats had died in a plane crash, and AFC had promoted
the Dolphins as the conference representatives in the SB, which team do 
you think Vegas would have favored based on various factors? Why?

>So once again: One month before the playoffs, on national TV with lots
>of pride at stake, the Bears were outplayed by Miami, and lost
>decisively.  If you still insist on saying that no AFC team could
>challenge them that year then you must be using a logic I'm not
>familiar with.
This is a logic of looking at more than a regular season game at an 
AFC stadium, just like I won't say the Giants would have beaten the
Broncos at New Orleans in 1989 ONLY because of the 14-7 regular season
win (at Mile High, no less).

Well, what I suggested was "no AFC playoff loser would have beaten the NFC 
champs on a neutral site". If the Dolphins could have yielded 500 yards
of rushing to the Browns and the Pats at home, why do you think they 
would have stopped the Bears' at a neutral site two weeks later?

>And anyway, Ed, shouldn't you be discussing the Skins instead of the
>1985 Bears?  I mean, I'm a dolfan, I got nothing to talk about except
>the past, but you?
Sign! if there is anything interesting about the Skins (besides the
medical reports) to talk about, I wouldn't have spent the time talking 
about 1985, would I?

-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
From: andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM (Andy Knipp SE Andersen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: it is starting again.... Re: Packers starting QB
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:08:27 GMT
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In article 6359@doug.cae.wisc.edu, chrisc@cae.wisc.edu (Chris Carey) writes:
> From all I've heard Favre will be starting this Sunday, as the Pack crushes the
> Chicago Gophers.

Ahh,  yes.  Packer baiting.  I love it.  How primative.  What do you expect 
from someone studying the History of Cheeze ?

We will see the uncivilized barbarians from the North,  led by this week's
Packer of the Decade,  Brett Farve,  attempt to invade the thriving metropolis
of Chicago.  Only to be rudely turned backed,  exiled to the frozen tundra
known as Wisconson.




---
Andy Knipp                    |
Sun Microsystems              | The secret to success is sincerity,
Chicago Loop District         | once you can fake that,  you have it made.
andy@sunloop.central.sun.com  |

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From: emilio@crchh444.BNR.CA (Emilio Rivera)
Subject: Re: dallas bandwagon
Reply-To: emilio@crchh444.BNR.CA (Emilio Rivera)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:34:30 GMT

In article <BxvGKq.Izw@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v075p7mg@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu
(Jonathan G Keller) writes:
|>Dear Cowboy fans:
|>
|>   I am thoroughly embarrassed.  Here I jump of Da' Bills bandwagon,
|>
|>jump on the Cowboy bandwagon, and we lose to the lowly Rams. Need I
|>
|>remind you the Bills already beat the Rams badly.  Please win big
|>
|>next week, or I will have to jump off your bandwagon.  I hear San Fran
|>
|>is doing pretty well......
|>
|>
|>
|>				confused
|>
|>			JON (HELEN) KELLER 
            
     Please do us a favor and jump OFF the Cowboy bandwagon
     this week and jump on the niners bandwagon so they can lose
     to the Rams, and then STAY OFF!!  the Cowboy bandwagon..:)
     
======================================================
"Don't ever forget that any team on any given day can
 beat any team in the NFL" - Tony 'go niners'

"Any team can lose" - J.P.Gloria  (except my niners)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: caeser@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Robert Michael Trotter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Eagles win, Roger Ruzek sucks...
Date: 23 Nov 1992 16:33:47 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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In article <1992Nov23.161345.18310@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes) writes:
>In article <98730@netnews.upenn.edu>, satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
>The PAT fialed and it was 40-20 Eagles after being
>down 20-6 early.

	Do any other Eagles fans want Ruzek out? I was checking out the stats
	for my fantasy football league, and I saw Ruzek was 5-7 on PAT.
	2 missed PAT's? Come on, Didnt he miss 2 in a game earlier this year?
	In my opinion thats pretty bad. Someday those missed PAT's are going
	to come back to haunt the Eagles. Like a score of 21-20, Eagles lose
	because Ruzek missed a PAT.

	Mark 
	GO VIKINGS!
From: jdhl@troi.cc.rochester.edu (papa_sm00sh)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bills best in NFL--unquestionably!!! Yup
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:03:13 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Nov23.163643.5682@pbhya.PacBell.COM> drhall1@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Doug R. Hall) writes:

>Exactly what is left for the Bills to get home field advantage? Four wins 
>combined with someone else losing a game?


right now, the bills currently hold a two game lead over all
contenders (i say this because ALL games have been played this weekend
that may effect this outcome, if the monday night game had
implications on this, i would state it here, but it doesn't)... with 5
games left... they need any combination of 3 wins and one loss by
whomever would be tied with them... 

jason
From: rlcarr@animato.network23.com (Rich Carreiro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: bizarre play in CARDS/FALCONS game
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Date: 17 Nov 92 19:02:15 EDT
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In article <1e99qrINNeic@chnews.intel.com> sramirez@hopi.intel.com (Steve Ramirez) writes:
> Does anyone have an opinion on the interception-lateral-lateral-fumble
> play by the Falcons which was recovered by the Cards on about the Falcon
> 2, but rewarded to the Falcons because the refs said that Sanders momentum
> carried him into the end zone, so the play was whistled dead? 
> 
> I'm not too big on all the rules, but I don't see how just stepping into the
> end zone would make a play automatically be dead, I thought he wa at least
> going for a touch back or a return, especially with all the laterals.

Not quite the ruling.  The real rule is that when the defender's momentum
*carries him into the endzone*, as soon as he loses possession, either 
voluntarily or not, the ball is dead for a touchback.  So the ball was
dead the instant Deion lateraled.  Now, if he had intercepted it in the endzone,
then it would have been Cards ball on the 2.
Also, if he had made a (illegal) forward lateral on the play, momentum
or not, it would have been a safety.

-- 
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From: jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes)
Subject: Re: Eagle fan commits suicide (Re: 'Gang Green')
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:31:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.124456.1137@dazixco.ingr.com>, dheyser@dazixco.ingr.com (Doak Heyser) writes:
>    I do remember though when an Eagle fan fatally shot himself in the 
> head outside the stadium after another Eagle home game loss.  His
> suicide note said something like, "I can't take it anymore.  The 
> Eagles will never be any good."  But I'm old and my mind is failing
> so I could be wrong on a word or two.

Yeah, you're old and your mind is gone.  There were suicides committed
by NFL fans, but it wasn't Eagles fans pulling the trigger.  It was
Packers fans.  Yeah, all those Packers fans that picked the Majik-Man
as starting QB in their Fantasy Football Leagues.  The guy had one
career year, in which the Packers didn't even make the playoffs, and
the guy's been a bust ever since.  Packers fans held a mass suicide
rally after finishing last in their FFL.  I believe the rally was MC-ed
by Dan Devine.

> >How's that for originality:-)?
> 
>    I give you a 3 out of a possible 10.  Real good for an Eagle fan.

Hey, that's a percentage of .300.  What a coincidence!  Isn't that
the Packers winning percentage over the past decade or two?


E-A-G-L-E-S

Joe Dakes
AT&T Microelectronics
555 Union Boulevard
Allentown, PA  18103
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From: COOKDL@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU (*Darryl Cook         )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bears fake punt illegal
Date: 19 Nov 1992 13:32:27 GMT
Organization: APPALACHIAN STATE UNIVERSITY
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> 
> However, there's a big difference between the plays you suggested and
> the fake punt that the Bears threw: The man near the sidelines.  What
> that man does is that *before* the play starts he is faking going out
> of bounds -- i.e., he is not making a fake play but a fake procedural
> move.  I suppose that this is like the rules against having more than
> 11 men in the huddle -- the idea is that you're not allowed to confuse
> the defense about which people are going to take part in the play.

> 
> My impression is that the biggest problem is not so much that you fake
> the defense as that you catch the officials by surprise.  Football is
> so complex and the officials have so many little things to look at
> (men in motion, false start, offside, holding, illegal contact,
> eligible receivers, etc.)  that when you open the game up with
> creative tricks the game becomes unmanageable.  I'm not defending the
> rule, by the way, but I can see why the league feels that it needs to
> keep things regulated.
> 
> I read last week that in college, if you want to run a "fumblerooski",
> you have to inform the officials in advance!  I have no idea if that
> applies to the NFL (maybe it's illegal) but that is an example of my
> point.  When you start running crazy plays, the officials feel that
> they lose control of the game.
> 

This is also a new rule change in High School Federation rules. As a high
school football official I fully support the rule.  When crazy stuff like this
is going to happen, you need to know so you make sure everything is legal.  It
is very easy to lose control of a game if a crazy play happens and you werent
looking right at the play. 

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From: athos@apple.com (Rick Eames)
Subject: The Tao of Steve Young
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:10:41 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.pro

Am I the only Niner fan out here that is not impressed with Steve Young? 
He is, IMHO, unreliable, spastic and not that intelligent of a player. 
Rice was open on many, many plays where Steve simply never bothered looking
his way. 

About 3 years ago I used to say that Steve Young was a great quarterback if
you were either very tall or knew how to catch with your feet.  He seems to
be returning to that kind of football.  He doesn't look around at all of
his receivers for the best throw, he doesn't react well under pressure and
I just don't think he's that great.

Am I alone?

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From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cowboys Meal Menu
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:24:08 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

Monday morning's breakfast menu:  Humble Pie!!!

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From: sager@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (mike.r.sager)
Subject: Re: NFL odds question
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:25:18 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.134738.1@minnie.imd.nrc.ca>, kmews@minnie.imd.nrc.ca writes:
> I checked the paper for the odds today and found two games
> listed as follows:
> 
> N.Y. Giants v Philadelphia,off
> L.A. Raiders v Denver,off
> 
> What does the "off" mean? 
> 
> KM
> 

The term "off" means that the sports book in question is not taking bets
on that particular game.  This is a common occurrence when the status of
a key player for one of the teams is unknown.  In the two games you mentioned,
I imagine the reasons are the injury statuses of Giants QB Jeff Hostetler
and Broncos QB John Elway.  I haven't kept up with NFL news this week, so
maybe someone can post whether either of these QB's will be playing.

I'm not sure where your paper is getting their odds, but I can tell you
these games are not off everywhere.  The current lines are:

	Philadelphia -2.5, O/U = 36
	Raiders -4, O/U = 35


Mike Sager
From: zarda@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dr. Strangelove)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: PACKERS WIN!!!
Date: 22 Nov 1992 21:17:20 GMT
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Originator: zarda@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

SCORE 

Green Bay 17    Chicago 3

Touchdowns:
Sharpe 49 yd. Reception
Farve   5 yd. Run

E. Bennett 100+ rushing (IS he really a PACKER?)

The Packers played consistant, controled the ball and WON!
One fumble for E.Bennett. (Guess he is a Packer).

Ken
-- 
 Dr. Strangelove      "You know your having a bad day when the fifth
 U.Wisconsin Milwaukee    inning rolls around and they drag the warning
 Major: Political Science  track." -Mike Flanagan, pitcher Baltimore Orioles
 Why that Alias? From the Movie Dr. Strangelove.
From: sajja@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Rajeev  Sajja)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bills resurgence
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:19:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <98194@netnews.upenn.edu> satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
>any schemes?  Or was it all just a slump?

Slump: Boy that sounds familiar for an Eagle fan.....

>satish nair
>go giants
>
>


-Rajeev Sajja
A Scrambling Eagle Fan
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From: martens@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens)
Subject: Re: Bills best in NFL--unquestionably!!!
Organization: Ohio State U. Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:51:37 GMT


No way will the Bills beat the Packers in the Super Bowl this
year.

-- 
      "C'mon, what's the big hold up?!  Let's go, up there!
		  Bring on the snow!"  -- Calvin

-- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu)
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From: freshlt@quig17.alleg.edu (Timothy Freshly)
Subject: Refs Calls (+ attention Dave Mikesell)
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:33:36 GMT


	In the MNF game last night, there were two questionable calls in  
the second half (both in the 4th quarter too I think).

	The first was on a run by Thomas.  He was knocked out of bounds on  
the goal line but his knee knocked over the pylon.  The Bills fans I was  
watching with all thought that it was a touchdown.  I disagreed (I'm a  
Steeler fan so I was FAIRLY unbiased) saying that the ball has to cross  
the goaline and it appeared to me that Thomas's upper body and therefore  
the football were out of bounds, consequently no touchdown.  Did anyone  
else get a better look at that play?

	The second call was on the apparent touchdown reception by  
Metzalars (sp?).  Again I agreed with the officials because he dove for  
the ball but on replay it appeared that he used the ground to trap it (he  
definitly had his hands on the ball but not between the ball and the  
ground, therefor a trap and no reception).  The replay was not at a great  
angle but the official was right there.  Comments?

	I think that these are the two calls which are causing most of the  
anti-official talk.


			Tim

ATTENTION DAVE MIKESELL:

	Sorry to use bandwidth... I received your e-mail but my NeXT  
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From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: FINAL SCORES!  ALL OF THEM!
Date: 16 Nov 92 04:17:40 GMT
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In lieu of JP Gloria, here are the final scores for today.  Interpret
the abbreviations as you wish.

% Sun, Nov 15
%	10am
	Cin @ NYJ 14 17
	Det @ Pitt 14 17
	Hou @ Minn 17 13
	NE @ Ind 37 34 (ot)
	Phil @ GB 24 27
	Phx @ Atl 17 20
	SD @ Clev 14 13
	Wash @ KC 16 35

%	1pm
	Chi @ TB 17 20
	NO @ SF 20 21
	Rams @ Dal 27 23
	Sea @ Rdrs 3 20

%	5pm
	NYG @ Den 13 27

-- 
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f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu               Dan: "R-O-L-A-I-D-S-E."

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	-- Richard Ben Cramer, author of _What It Takes_
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From: pboxrud@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul D Boxrud)
Subject: Re: Christie saves Bills
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:17:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.223531.13018@asl.dl.nec.com> nix@aslslc43.asl.dl.nec.com
(David Nix) writes:
>
>The ground game more or less evaporated after the first drive as far as Higgs
>is concerned.  He had a couple of decent runs after that but was mostly
>
>David
>

Sounds a lot like Brent Fullwood a couple of years ago.  20-40 yds rushing on 
the first drive and nothing much for the rest of the game.

Paul
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From: aephel01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Where Is doug The Dolfan?
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:28:16 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

doug the Dolfan not only can't post, but he isn't reading this
group or any other (this is his brother).  You see, doug has
taken up residence in a cave in the nearby appalchian mountains.
As you walk up to the cave, you'll notice a small stream flowing
from the cave.  There's a rancid smell in there, also.  Inside
you would see the stream spilling from a pool of spittle forming
at his feet.  The smell?  Well you'd understand if you saw him.

His wife can't get him out, even at the threat of tossing all of
his dolphin digests.  He just mumbles and clutches his 'lucky
dolphin hat'.

We're going to have him committed next week, they were talking
about some clinic in NY, but we know he'd go into seizures if
he got any where near the state.  So we've settled for a small
sanitarium kept in the hills where he can finger paint his
belly button in peace...

-- no sig necessary --
       Aza
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From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: AFC TEAMS STINK
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:53:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.201403.356@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> q2dt@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Turner) writes:

>In article <1992Nov15.190835.18444@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:

>>>`86 Giants, 
>>I'm pretty sure the NFC championship was less of a smear than the SB.

>Are you serious?  The Giants beat the 49ers 49-3 in that game, knocking
>Montana out of the game.  The Super Bowl was 39-20. 

I've gotta stop posting so early in the day.  For some reason, I was
fixed on the '85 season that the Bears won.  Apologies.

>>>Close Games: `87 Redskins, `90 Giants
>>But one-sided in the SB.     ^^^^^^^^^

>Bullshit.  You call 20-19 one-sided?  It was the closest Super Bowl ever.  

I just brain-faded on this one.  Again, sorry.  But it is worth noting
that the NFC title game was just as close (decided by a FG at the end).

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From: imes@boa.cis.ohio-state.edu (jeffrey imes)
Subject: Re: AFC TEAMS STINK
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 20:32:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.173610.4203@wam.umd.edu> emdynle@next01wor.wam.umd.edu (Em Dyn chi co' em trong tim anh) writes:
>I'm afraid to wake up all you people whose favorite team is in the AFC  
>because I just realized how weak the AFC is.  Hmmmmmm.  On any given day  
>an NFC team (the worst) can beat the best AFC team.  For years now the Afc  
>have whoooped the NFC in the probowl but that doesn't matter.  The NFC has  
>dominated the Superbowl for years no.  I don't see any change either.   
>Call me biased because the Cowboys are in the NFC.  AFC sucks!

Oh great...here we go again.  All it takes is one nitwit to get this moot point
going again...but since the ball has started rolling again....

Ok wise guy, explain to me how San Francisco (one of the NFC's BEST) lost at
home to Buffalo.

Or how the Bears were able to blow a 14 point lead to Bengals last week.

Then come back to me and profess your never-ending wisdom to me.
===============================================================================
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CIS Undergraduate Student	                 "The brain doesn't need blood,
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From: cl129424@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Glanville
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:07:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: ulkyvx.1992Nov16.120711.1
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Nov16.161227.4205@col.hp.com>, kary@col.hp.com (Dan Kary) writes:
> I saw a replay from the Atlanta/Phoenix game in which Jerry Glanville
> appeared to attempt to physically attack Billy Joe Tolliver.  Dieon
> Sanders got between the two as other unidentified people tried to hold
> both back.  I think Tolliver just threw an interception or something.
> Looks like Glanville is out of control.  What do people in Atlanta think
> of this?  I don't see how anyone can be saying anything positive about
> Glanville today.
> 
> Dan (go flo) Kary
> 

    Before the end of the game they were kissing and hugging. A win will
cure almost anything.
                                   -doug THE dolfan-