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From: v124jw4y@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Benjamin R Pierce)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Sandamn: I need a reminder
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:49:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hmmm...the best way to catch up on the antics of Sandamn would be by reading
the Annotated Sandamn, supplemented by the team book he appears in, the 
Obscenity Legion.  These books also contain a lot of interesting info on
his siblings, Drat, Darn, Dang, Dammit, Dagnabbit, and the mysterious
Seventh known only as #@(*^(%!.  In addition, there are rumors of a Sandamn/
Suicide Squid crossover in the works...

                                                   --Ben:)
From: lazarus@kitty.ksu.ksu.edu (Bart -Laz- Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: My thoughts on Sandman 42
Date: 26 Aug 1992 23:42:02 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
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Thanks for the info, guys!  Yeah, I DID miss that particular issue... again, I
wasn't collecting Sandman at the time I read that, and didn't start picking it up
until around the time that Convergence part 1 came out.

--
Bart -Laz- Smith
Kansas State University
A survivor of the *Prodigy "network"
The 'Cats WILL rule in '92!
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From: visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)
Subject: Re: The return of the D'bari (was Re: Marvel's untouchable corpses...)
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:44:18 GMT
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              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Sep3.214723.11197@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty III) writes:

+>In article <Bu0rsr.9LA@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, teo33398@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Doctor Zero) writes:
+>> dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:
+>> 
+>> >     Dave Van Domelen, hey, they even brought the D'bari back
+>> 
+>> 	Huh???  You're kidding right?  If this is true then I swear off all

+>It's true.  From what I've heard John Byrne had a planet full of Asparagus
+>People in a recent issue of SHE-HULK.

	Not only that, but one of the surviving Asperigus people was the 
one featured in Avengers #4 complete with gun which turns people to stone.




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From: bill.dehaan@rose.com (bill dehaan)
Subject: DC is now #3
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 03:16:24 GMT
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Date Entered: 09-01-92 22:10
In message <1992Aug30.031320.17157@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>,
bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs) writes:

CG>I have heard that Malibu comics now has the second largest comic market share
CG>passing DC.  Can anyone confirm or deny this?

CG>Charles GIbbs

According to...  damn where  was it...  the Comic  Journal, I  think, DC
sales were smaller than Image sales  by half a percent in August.  DC is
expected to retake the number two slot in September.

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From: mss2@quads.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer)
Subject: Re: JSA CANCELLED????
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Reply-To: mss2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:13:47 GMT

In article <sward.714778733@uclagsm> sward@agsm.ucla.edu (Sidne Gail Ward) writes:

>That's fine, but if they expect me to hang around to the bitter end,
>they've got another think coming.  I really enjoyed the first couple
>of issues of the title, but now that I know it's being cancelled, I'll
>drop it.  I've preordered the next couple of issues from my local
>store, but those'll be it.  Why should I spend my time and money
>getting involved with a series I know has been cancelled?  

Um... cause you like the stories being told in the issues which _do_
come out?  This isn't a romantic relationship, after all, but a
decision about which comic book to buy.  (Though, actually, all
romantic relationships are begun with the knowledge that the object of
affection will one day be "cancelled"-- those with faerie or other
immortals excepted, of course.  But I digress.)  I'll grant that if
you were buying it with the thought of, "Well, it's not great, but it
has potential" the fact that this potential has been lost is an
excellent reason to drop the series.  There are limits to what sorts
of plots can develop with such a near termination date.  But
conversely, many books are worth getting for the individual issues.  I
started on _Zot_ late during the "Earth Stories", knowing that there
were only about three issues left before a long hiatus-- but the
stories themselves were worth it without regard to that.  I don't
necessarily say that this is true of JSA-- the current series showed
glimmers, but certainly hasn't been anything incredible so far.  Then
again, it wasn't a horrible travesty, which these days makes it _seem_
like incredible brilliance compared to other things DC has been doing.
No wonder they had to cancel it.  (I will not mention LSH.  I will not
mention LSH.  -- Oops...)

Mike
-- 
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mss2@usite-next.uchicago.edu     Jim Koncz (konc@midway.uchicago.edu)
From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: LNH - Posting of the last chapter (so far...)
Date: 3 Sep 92 00:08:13 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Sep3.021228.21176@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:
> Even as Table was proclaiming himself ruler of all, the rookie villain Acton 
> Lord (who figured, hey, villain etiquette has already been broken anyway) 
> stepped out of one of the gaping plot holes left during the battle and 
> proclaimed, "Power bores!  Absolute power bores absolutely!"
>      Suddenly, Table found himself pummelled by waves of ennui, a word he 
> didn't even recognize.  It was as if he had been forced to read the transcript 
> of a five hour debate about the relative merits of brush versus pen work.  He 
> reeled for a moment as Acton Lord chuckled evilly....
>      Dave Van Domelen, "next!"

	I am sorry but all this LNH LNV business has me quite confused!  I 
mean the art sucks!  And if there arent any pretty pictures then what is the
point to this thing???  

					wReam...

P.S.  Cringed at the thought that he too might be forced to use 
Bessel Functions and all that mumbo Jumbo in signals!  A villain
far worse than Acton Lord could ever hope to become!
From: pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Paul Michael Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Marvel's untouchable corpses (Toro)
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:30:54 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>On related topics: what exactly happened to Toro?
>What other Marvel stiffs are untouchable?  I'd guess Uncle Ben, and um...
>well, I can't really think of anyone else after the Parker Parents fiasco.

Unless there was some sort of retcon, Toro died in Sub-Mariner #14 (1969)
while saving Namor from being attacked (can't remember by who).



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From: jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: What's with "The Human Target" (Hey, DC readers!)?
Date: 1 Sep 92 14:54:01 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <la6oglINNmk3@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu> rockstea@galoob.cs.utk.edu (Courtney C. Rockstead) writes:
>
>	Hi.  I've become an avid watcher of the Rick Springfield series,
>"The Human Target", Saturdays on ABC.  At the end it says that it is
>based on a DC comics character by Wein and Infantino.  I thought they
>meant The Avenger from a two-parter called "Justice, Inc." (man, that
>was good!), but they don't.  So, does anyone know what they do mean?

There was a character created by Infantino named Chance who hired 
himself out as the Human Target. He shouldn't be confused, though, with
the similar DC character Nemesis who was also a master of disguise. 

>	Also, Chaykin is involved in this series as I believe he was
>for "The Flash".  I was sorry to see the Flash series go, but am glad
>that some of the scenery and such is used in this one.  Did anyone
>notice on the most recent show that WFLY looked suspiciously like the
>front of that lab in "The Flash"?

Pet Fly Productions did both series, and more than half of those named
in the production credits were also involved with The Flash TV show. 
A lot of in-jokes can be seen in this series - the prison in the 
recent episode was named Kurtville Correctional Facility, after 
producer Don Kurt who also did the Flash. A number of Flash 
actors such as Shipp have also been seen on the Human Target.
-- 
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty III)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: The Trouble with SANDMAN (was Re: Unrepentant Heresy About To Be...)
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:46:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsl.1992Aug30.034607.13930
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <IebsLxq00awN80zFoO@andrew.cmu.edu>, Jason Lee Smith <js06+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> 	I don't really like Sandman any more.
> 
> 	<courteous pause while fans unsheath their knives>

Knives?  How quaint.
[Conty reaches under his desk, and pulls out a gun that would make
 Cable proud...]

> 	It had its moments, like the initial "Master Of Dreams" storyline and a
> couple of the short-stories (especially the one about Hob (sic)),

"Men of Good Fortune".  My favorite SANDMAN story.

> and the Season Of Mists was one of the best stories I've ever read,
> but all in all, I've found it rather intellectually prententious, and
> a whole lot of it was merely borrowed from Alan Moore's  work.

Only at the start.  Since then, he has discovered his own literary voice,
which is different from Moore's, and still very good.

> Apart from that, I find his stuff a little dull,

<shrug>  I disagree, but we can leave it at that.

> and the fact that he doesn't always has a concrete plotline in mind
> when he writes has not added to my respect of Gaiman as a writer.

That, IMO, is one of the (if not THE) biggest weaknesses of Gaiman.  He
seems unable to maintain a reasonably coherent plot for a multi-issue series.

[Paragraph praising Gaiman's work deleted]

> 	Also, I really can't stand McKean's artwork on the covers.

That's perfectly understandable.

> 	Also, I think Death is one of the stupidest characters ever created.

I think I see where you're coming from.  The last thing you'd expect to meet
after you die is a young girl who dresses like a punk Madonna-wannabe and
has a thing for floppy hats.  Personally, I find Gaiman's interpretation of
Death to be at the very least a refreshing change from the usual parade of
scythe-wielding skull-headed robe-wearers.
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From: mwinston@lust.reed.edu (Michael J. Winston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: JSA CANCELLED????
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:49:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Aug25.224927.27211
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <sward.714778733@uclagsm> sward@agsm.ucla.edu (Sidne Gail Ward)  
writes:
> dddawson@lpl.arizona.edu (Doug Dawson) writes:
> 
> 
> >Just to clarify things...there _will_ be several more issues of
> >JSA...while the d.ecision to canc.el has supposedly a.lready .been  
made,
> >the issues currently in the pipeline will continue to be processed,  
plus
> >a few more. . The last I had heard, #10 was s.ch.eduled to .be the  
last.
> 
> That's fine, but if they expect me to hang around to the bitter end,
> they've got another think coming.  I really enjoyed the first couple
> of issues of the title, but now that I know it's being cancelled, I'll
> drop it.

No offense, but that doesn't sound like a very good reason to drop JSA.  I  
mean, I could understand if you didn't enjoy it or you needed to drop it  
along with other titles in order to save money, but if you're enjoying it  
then buy it.  Think of it as a 10 issue mini-series or something.  With  
the lasting power of most new series these days, you can pretty much  
guarantee it'll be cancelled.  Would you drop Sandman (assuming you bought  
it) now that you know there's a definite end to the series, or would you  
stay "to the bitter end"?

Michael J. Winston
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
From: jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu (have clue, will travel)
Subject: Re:  A LNH CALL TO ARMS
Originator: jecoleb@c00507-119rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: The Ghost Of Christmas Past Society
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:21:42 GMT


The time:  early September.
The place: somewhere really, really dreary.  
The setting:  No, honestly, it's too dreary to mention.  Just consider
	yourself dreared.  It's a drear-fest. Drear-O-Rama.  Drear me, baby.

   A small figure sits on a dorm bed, shackled to a small computer terminal
in front of him.  The scene is reminiscent of Bartleby, the Scrivener,
until one notices the faded flaps of cloth and discarded mask lying in a
pile on the floor.  This, the once-famous costume of Multi-Tasking Man,
has gathered much dust from the one thing it had never encountered--
inactivity.

   Over the summer, the roving eyes and fingers of M-T Man (long accustomed
to posting articles/playing netrek/MUDding/doing homework/talking on the phone 
all at once) were stunned into submission by a bolt of Dr. B*sh's
ECONOMIC EMULSIFIER... Without a job, without net.access, and deprived of
his collection of Renegade Flaming Carrot issues, he sank gladly into
depression--and into captivity.

   Now, he sits, aimlessly wandering through alt.*.kibo groups, a man
deprived of memory and purpose, disdained by his captors as an impotent
shell...

kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER) writes:

>Searching, Rebel Yell finds traces of his friends in the worlds of
>.misc and .xbooks(truely a fate worse than death).  Boosting power to the 
>matter transporters, he aims the trans-mat beam into the void in hope of 
>freeing the LNH from their prisons, so that they may join the battle against
> evil (READ: mindless slygfest) one last time!

*SCHWALLABALLABINGWHOPPABANG!*  A scarlet ray bursts through the walls of 
the cell, striking M-T Man squarely in the small of the back!  The room quickly
becomes still again, except for his quivering body on the floor...

   The tired eyes slowly open again, but this time with a slowly mounting 
cognition of the situation reflected within them.  He glances at the crude 
shackles, and with a mere thought--KRACKK!--they are fragmented.  

>	 Will Rebel Yell succeed in bring the LNH together one last time?

   The defeated, humble figure on the bed is gone; in his place is a proud,
navy-clad champion of literary satire and hyperactivity.  Multi-Tasking Man
doesn't know where his teammates have gone--but they WILL be found. 

   As the juggernaut flies out through the hole made by the ray in the roof,
he takes along the portable computer he'd been shackled to--might as well
do his taxes and download some GIFs while I'm searching, he thinks...

--TO BE CONTINUED
-- 
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     in Chapel Hill, while opening for Mojo Nixon & The Toad Liquors
From: goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: The Return of Scavenger, Questions and thoughts
Date: 2 Sep 1992 06:36:33 GMT
Organization: The Sinister Icy Black Hand of Death Club
Reply-To: goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
NNTP-Posting-Host: whirlwind.berkeley.edu
Originator: goldfarb@whirlwind.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Aug28.214114.5076@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER) writes:
)1: What eventually happened with the r.a.c. split?

	Three groups passed: the moderated r.a.c.info, r.a.c.xbooks, and
the renaming to r.a.c.misc. R.a.c.strips and r.a.c.marketplace are still
around, of course.

)2: What happened to the Legion of Net Heroes?

	It gradually died away...didn't have quite the staying power of
Suicide Squid. (But then the Squid is unique.) Someone's just posted 
a revival article; we'll see how much response it gets.

)3: Was Connie's (I think that was who was writing it) New Mutants story ever
)get
)      finished, and, if so, is it archived somewhere?

	Yes, and yes. You can use anonymous ftp to ocf.berkeley.edu; the
directory is /pub/Kid_Dynamo.

-- 
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From: dv52151@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Axly)
Subject: Re: cable
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:12:40 GMT

hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:

>In article <BtnCuG.15p@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dv52151@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Axly) writes:
>>>To ruin one of Marvel's best magazines, the New Mutants.
>>
>>I have to disagree here. New Mutants was already pretty dead in the
>>water by the time Rob the Snob was put on it.

>I suppose you're right... Simonson started the degeneration.  501-man just
>speeded up the process.

*Grin*
"Warp 9 and don't spare the jeans..I can get more!"

Axly

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From: teo33398@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Doctor Zero)
Subject: Re: Marvel's untouchable corpses (was re: STARLIN SELLOUT?)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:34:02 GMT

dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:

>     Dave Van Domelen, hey, they even brought the D'bari back

	Huh???  You're kidding right?  If this is true then I swear off all
-- 
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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:01:09 EDT
From: <JVI100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Shade the Changing Man

       Well, since this comic is usually my favorite of the month (Usually
 flip flopping with The Sandman) and none of my friends read it and not much
 is usually written about it in the comics mags and on the net, I'd really
 like it if someone out there who LIKES the comic could e-mail me back
 and start a discussion.

                           Thanks to all who reply.....


                                       Jimothy
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From: albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: !mpact postmortem
Date: 24 Aug 1992 01:16:56 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx

In article <1992Aug23.184851.19951@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs) writes:
>
>Could someone be so kind to tell me exactly what is going to happen to
>the Impact books.  I'm usually the last to here of info anyway.

	They're all getting cancelled in Sept/October.
	There is some sort of plan brewing for a mini-series called
"Crucible" (I think that's right.)  Nate Cray (the Black Hood) 
gets some sort of prophetic vision and has to stop some sort of 
awful future.  Grim-n-gritty, I'd guess.  It's a shame, as Black Hood
is a decent title.
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From: jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: JSA CANCELLED????
Date: 26 Aug 92 23:47:26 GMT
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM

In article <mumble> dusek@rtsg.mot.com (James P. Dusek) writes:

>hunter@cse.uta.edu (David Hunter) writes:
>
>>Well, it's nice that we'll have 10 issues but this still means that
>>DC has cancelled the title after having sales information about
>>only two issues doesn't it?  I can understand cancelling a title
>
>	Nope, they have sales info up to the 5th title. Dealers
>order two months in advance. So blame your dealer because orders
>are low for it.

Apparently one of the "facts" being used by the editors who decided
that the JSA needed to be scrapped was that orders for issues 3 and 4
were about half of what the orders for issues 1 and 2 were.

Of course, dealers had to have their orders for 3 & 4 in before one
was even on the stands, and the fact that the first issue sold out
rather quickly obviously has no impact on their decision to cancel the
title.  

According to Len S. (if you think I'm gonna try to spell his name from
memory you are wrong!) over on GEnie, it is probably impossible to
save the JSA from cancellation but he is urging people to write DC and
express their feelings about this "image" thing in the hopes that it
will prevent further scrapping of old characters in favor of new ones.
(Len also said that even if JSA was saved he wouldn't be writing it
because he's told DC that he's outta there as soon as he's done with
whatever he's doing currently.)

So keep sending mail to DC!  That address once again is:

Archie Goodwin, Denny O'Neil, and/or Mike Carlin

DC Comics
1325 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10019

and you can even send email to DC via MCIMail - their address is
easily available but to save you the time of finding it, it is:

dccomics@mcimail.com

and I would guess you should put who the letter is to somewhere
prominently at the top of your email post.


-- 
Kansas Jim (Jim Ogle, TORG guru)
jogle@aoc.nrao.edu (NRAO-VLBA, Socorro New Mexico)
"I'd be apathetic if I cared."
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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: cable
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:37:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.104742.367@ab.wvnet.edu> davisson@ab.wvnet.edu writes:
>I have a few questions about cable?
>1.what is his orgin?

Rob L**f*ld.

>2.Who is he.

The most one-dimensional character ever created by Marvel.

>3.what has he came back to the past for.

To ruin one of Marvel's best magazines, the New Mutants.

>4. what connections does cable and stryfe have.

Both have enormous shoulders, puny heads, and pathetic dialogue.

>5. Is he cyclops'son nathan christphor summers?

Probably.  But Marvel can sell more magazines if they don't give a definite
answer yet, so you won't be seeing that until some overly-hyped special 
edition or limited series.
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