HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dduff@infopls.chi.il.us (Dennis Duffner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: PEOPLE!  Why do you have to leave every FREAKIN' line in a FOLLO
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 09:21:47 CST
Organization: INFOPLUS support, Wheeling, IL

(unnecessary lines deleted)
Easy Art!  Some folks don't know that they can kill off the lines
that aren't needed.  As for the others....well, who knows.

Dennis Duffner                           dduff@infopls.chi.il.us
 
Member, AAAF-American Association of Amiga Fanatics
From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Well, I guess that my A4000 is going back to the dealer...
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:28:01 GMT
Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA
Keywords: n

In article <1992Nov3.160249.376@cranel.com> watters@cranel.com (David Watters) writes:
>In article <36505@cbmvax.commodore.com> daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
>>The A2091 needs new firmware to work correctly.  Its problem, shared by most
>>Zorro II based DMA-driven controllers, is A3000 memory.  Apparenly no one in 
>>the device driver writing business, C= included, had considered that possibility
>>of non-DMA-able memory being the only Fast RAM you get at expansion binding
>>time.

>If I may bare a little ignorance regarding low level stuff,  I have always
>had trouble understanding what is being said here.  Is this implying that
>the fastmemory within an A3000 is nonDMA able by any device on the bus?

Not quite.

>ie. if I have a ZorroII or ZorroIII sound board being used to grab samples
>in an A3000/A4000 it can not do DMA to fastram?!?

Zorro II, no, Zorro III, yes.  The Zorro II bus, like the PC-AT bus and other 
vintage 16-bit buses, is limited to 24-bit addressing.  Anything that's 
outside of the first 16MB on an Amiga can't be addressed by a Zorro II bus
master.  Zorro III supports full 32-bit addressing, a Zorro III device can
access any 32-bit port anywhere in Amiga memory.

-- 
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 "The Crew That Never Rests"  {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh   BIX: hazy
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson)
Subject: Re: A3000,1.3,2.0 HELP!!!
Organization: Enea Data AB
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:46:57 GMT

jsurace@cco.caltech.edu (Jason A. Surace) writes:
: 
: 
:   Well, basically you're out of luck. Only the early A3000's
: (like mine) had the option to boot 1.3. This was included
: because the machines were shipped with a beta version of WB 2.0,
: which I can certainly testify was very buggy and crashed frequently,
: and had very little compatability. Once 2.0 was stabilized as
: 2.04, they were shipped with 2.04 only.

You can, however, use SetCPU and kick in 1.3 (it's on your 2.0
KickStart disk). Check the script Update_2.x and call th same program
as it does, but with the parameter 1.3 instead of 2.0. This will
give you a kickstart file in the devs directory.

By calling SetCPU with parameters KICKROM and devs/kickfile, you will
kick in 1.3. You can't use the HD in 1.3, though. Make a small script
that calls SetCPU, give it a project icon with IconX as tool, and you'll
only need to double-klick this icon to kick 1.3.

I've also heard/read that there's work going on (I beleive by Simon Cope)
to make better versions of SetCPU (SetA3000 and Rekick) that gives you
access to the HD as well, but I haven't managed to get hold of the
programs.

-- 
=============================================================================
 Tommy Petersson              tope@enea.se              Enea Data AB, Sweden
=============================================================================

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: urjlew@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Rostyk Lewyckyj)
Subject: Re: AGA monitors.
Summary: But does it work with the high resolution modes?
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 10:50:14 GMT

In article <36750@cbmvax.commodore.com>, grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins) writes:
> In article <Bx9FGL.3zp@rice.edu> dgb@owlnet.rice.edu (Dennis Gale Brown) writes:
> > 
> > The NEC series of Multisyncs seem to work well with the Amigas.
> > If you have to buy a new monitor, the C= monitor is probably cheaper,
> > but if you share a monitor between computers (Amiga and, say, IBM))
> > then the NEC would be a good bet... 
> 
> The 1960 comes with a standard 15-pin VGA connector and works just
> fine with PC's, includeing those from IBM...
> 
> -- 
> George Robbins - now working for,     work:   to be avoided at all costs...
> but no way officially representing:   uucp:   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!grr
> Commodore, Engineering Department     domain: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com


But will the C= 1960 (s) monitor work well with the modernnewer IBM clone high
resolution modes, like those >1000 x >800 svga and xvga modes? 
????????
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             urjlew@unc.oit.unc.edu    (ARPA,SURA,NSF etc. internet)
          or urjlew@unc.bitnet
          or urjlew@ecsvax.UUCP 
       tel.  (919)-962-6501

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: epang@fraser.sfu.ca (Eugene Pang)
Subject: DKB Insider...help needed
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:26:03 GMT

One of the jumper wires from the Insider came loose from wherever it was
connected to on the motherboard (or KS daughterboard).  Could someone
look it up in their installation manual and email me on where it should go?
(The other wire is still connected to pin 4 of the chip labeled P on the KS
daughterboard.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: rlv@runge.mit.edu (Ralph Vinciguerra)
Subject: Re: Networking?  WHY?!!
Summary: it does make sense for A500's and A600's
Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 18:08:58 GMT

In article <jbono.07v8@tension.UUCP> jbono@tension.UUCP (John Bono) writes:
> 
>workstation or server.  HOWEVER, an A2000/3000/4000 based network is a
>different story, because those machines are far more likely to be used in a
>productivity environment.
> 
>John

I don't agree with leaving the low end machines out in the cold
Picture this: a computer lab in a high school (or college)
with one or two A3000's with large SCSI hard drives and alot of A500's
without hard drives networked to the servers.
This is a pleasant, LOW COST, solution
if only cheap network attachments were available for the A500's.
This is a productivity environment which uses low end machines.

I'm excited to read about the possibility for homebrew arcnet
adapter designs for the parallel port.....
From: v064qpfu@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Christopher S. D'Arrigo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Help needed : Connecting A3000 to A500's SupraDrive...
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:04:00 GMT
Organization: UB


       Hi, 


          I have a A500 with a SupraDrive 500XP and would like to be able to
         access the SupraDrive from my A3000. I was wondering if anyone might
         be able to help me figure out what software/utilities might be needed
         in order to do this. Any help would be greatly appreciated !!! 

                               Thanks in advance !!! 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: dnavas@oracle.uucp (David Navas)
Subject: Re: Floppy size in 1200?
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:41:42 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <69077@cup.portal.com> joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan) writes:
>of removable media.  After 7 years of existance, there most definately
>should be an increase in the Amiga's floppies - though even this sad remedy
>is only halve of an increase (speed hasn't changed, only capacity).
[...]
>Yes.  Why won't you listen?  When will CBM try to improve across the board

Hey, Joel!
Breathe in.
Breathe out.
Count to ten -- now backwards :)

The decision not to support what you (rightly) term a "sad remedy" at
additional cost to the end user is not a big loss.  Especially if the machine
is NEVER sold without a HD.  Which is how I'd market it....

The decision not to include a three dollar clock, on the other hand, was not
exactly the most brilliant tradeoff I've seen....

As you point out, Cmdre needs to stop supporting bad hacks (IDE, half-speed
HD floppies, CPU-boards in the 68000 socket), and start putting
together modular systems -- plug in sound, gfx, CPUs that all work in
a well-integrated (read, you don't have to set a bazillion switches and
add fourteen hundred ad-hoc drivers) environment.

For this and other reasons, I support the PCMCIA effort by Cmdre (even over
the HD floppy, which is a definite loss, or a DSP chip, or whatever).  Not
because it, in and of itself, will become a widespread standard (it may),
but because working with this allows Cmdre to become a part of a larger market
in a way that proprietary HD disks do not let them....
You may remember when the Lynx got sold to Atari I was flaming Cmdre for
passing on the opportunity -- again, not because the color LCD display
might have meant a portble Amiga (not enough resolution), but because it
would have gotten their hands down and dirty with "useful" things.

Half-speed HD drives are, at best, a hack that will hopefully go away
VERY soon when Cmdre redesigns its machines with a better "Paula."
It does, however, make a difference to buyers between now and then....

>instead of defending the placement of ancient (in computer terms) technology
>into otherwise new and fairly impressive machines?

Hey man, console -- not state of the art.
David C. Navas						dnavas@oracle.com
Working for, but not speaking on behalf of, Oracle Corp.
From: rico@disaster.hacktic.nl (Rico Jansen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A1200 keyboard (A600 owners?)
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 19:07:16 GMT
Organization: HIN - Disaster Area

In article <1992Nov4.143513.17319@decuac.dec.com>,  writes:

> Hi.  I got the A1200.gif, and I notice that the A1200 keyboard is
> different from my A500 by two keys.  The left shift key is shorter than
> on mine, and there's a new key because of that (left of the 'Z').  And
> the RETURN key has been shortened; there's a new key at the end of the
> "ASDFGH" etc. line.
> 
> Does anyone know what the heck they are?  I assume that they're on the
> A600 and A4000 keyboards as well.

Well those keys are on my Amiga 500+ too. They are blank, the explanation
given by the manual is that they are for differences between the keyboards
of various countries. E.g. Germany with its swapped Z and Y, France and Belgium 
with there AZERTY layout and accents. You get the picture.

Rico Jansen (rico@disaster.hacktic.nl)
From: rico@disaster.hacktic.nl (Rico Jansen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Which HD-Controller is better? 2091 or GVP
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 19:11:05 GMT
Organization: HIN - Disaster Area

In article <1992Nov3.210353.25329@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, Don mac phee writes:

> >]>Which makes eight.  SCSI devices are numbered 0-7, not 1-8.
> 
>  Therefore, you may have seven devices on your SCSI chain. The anchor being
> the board.
> 
>  There *I* disputed it. Anyone else?

Yep, me. SCSI supports something called LUN's.
(look at the SCSI scanning of HDtoolbox).
This means the every SCSI device can be subdivided in 8 sub units.
You need a LUN-controller for that. If you use this method
with *one* SCSI controller you can get 7*8=56 HD's of your system.

Rico Jansen (rico@disaster.hacktic.nl)
From: al158305@academ01.mty.itesm.mx (Gustavo Cordova Avila)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Stop me Buying a PC!
Keywords: 386 multitasking
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:30:43 GMT

Andy@Birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio) writes:

>In article <Bx10oz.Fu8@news.cs.andrews.edu>, Edsel Adap writes:

>Ever hear of DESQview? It's a very nice program. Also, get DOS 5.0 and use
>the DOSSHELL.

   Not so nice if you're accustomed to work with the lighweight multitasking
of AmigaDOS. Really. It can't compare.

-Gus
--
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al158305@academ01.mty.itesm.mx	| "...I came from the Desert!!" (Sonora)
al158305@[131.178.4.10]		| RangerElf @ IRC (usually in #amiga)
From: swinokur@cellar.org (Steve Winokur)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: does this device exist?
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:50:27 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan) writes:

> 
> You STILL don't get it.  He wants an EXTERNAL COMPOSITE input to be
> transcoded to an RGB output.  The CBM genlocks only give you the AMIGA VIDEO
> as RGB out.
> 
> Transcoding baseband video to RGB won't be cheap.  The unit must break the
> video into 3 descrete colors and output them.  The Sunrize color splitter
> does this, but only on one color at a time.  I can do it with my VideoMaster
> Genlock (transcodes Y/C and composite video as RGB, composite or Y/C) but
> that unit runs around $1000. 8-/  
> 
> Sorry I can't point you to any other solutions.  Since most people need to
> go the other way (from better quality RGB to "worse" quality composite).
> Going from composite to RGB would only make crummy looking RGB :-)
> 

How 'bout the GVP G-Lock?  It's much less expensive; and will take a
Composite input and transcode it to Y/C.  BUT... since the video output has
to go back to the DB-23 connector, there's no reason why you can't pull the
individual R G B signals off of it for your own Nefarious Purposes, right?

As a bonus, it will convert PAL <-> SECAM, for whatever that's worth :)
	-steve

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From: amuser@cs.curtin.edu.au (Bill Sharp-Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Moving 500 to 1200, BAD NEWS
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:38:06 GMT
Organization: Curtin University of Technology

johnv@acix.DIALix.oz.au (John Verhoeven) writes:

>> > 1 Meg x 9 (beacuse they have stupid memory management) and the Mac 
>> Thats because they include memory parity checking.

>Parity checking adds 12.5% more RAM cells to go wrong.

>If you get a parity error, is it the memory bits or the parity bit
>that is kaput?

Well, there's only a 1 in 9 chance that it's the parity bit ;-)
-- 

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From: Damage@f550.n635.z3.fidonet.org (Damage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Accelerators?
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:56:01 +1100

I'm thinking of getting an '030 accelerator for my 2000. At the moment, the
 leading candidate is the VXL 25mhz 030 (mainly coz it's cheaper than the
 GVP!), and I was hoping someone could answer me these:
Does it have a MMU?
Does it have a slot for a co-processor, and how much would this be likely to
 set me back?
What, if any, are the main differences between the VXL 030 and a GVP board?

                                 // Damage! //

 * Origin: Empire BBS +61(3)592-5662 (3 lines) (3:635/550)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran)
Subject: Re: Upgrading A500 -> A1200.  What do I do with my SCSI stuff ?
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 18:24:02 GMT

In article <1div99INNgfp@alpha.db.erau.edu> jimb@db.erau.edu (James Burwell)
writes:

>I have one small problem:  A rather large investment in SCSI 
>peripherals.  Now, I'm not so happy :-).

>What shall the wayward A500 user with SCSI interface do with his
>assortment of hard drives and 1/4" tape drives when he purchases an
>A1200 ?

[..]

>Does anyone know of any existing or future plans/solutions, either from CBM 
>or elsewhere, which will allow one to hook up SCSI peripherals to an A1200 ?

It's really too early to speculate on third-party developments, but I would
certainly expect the A1200 to meet with favorable response in short order.

ICD has recently announced the Trifecta 16-bit IDE/SCSI-II/8 MB RAM module 
for the A500/2000/2500. This would seem to be a natural candidate for the
A1200 as well (minus the IDE controller). My suspicion is that products
may be revealed as early as the Toronto WOC in December.

For those interested in the Trifecta, ICD can be reached at (815) 968-2228.
Organization: Johannes Kepler University Linz - Computing Center
Date: Tuesday, 10 Nov 1992 17:12:26 CET
From: <K3023E2@ALIJKU11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Why I need Hardware References.

Dear People.
...
I think there are a lot of misunderstandings about this Hardware Reference
Manual. There is obvioulsy *NO* doubt that you CANNOT assure compatibility
when 'hitting' the hardware.
That does NOT implicate that you MUST NOT KNOW how the custom chips work.
...
I mean, many amiga people i know here in Europe have the Amiga because it's
GREAT fun to code. It has that great custom chips which make it really nice.
BUT, they are all hobby coders, that means they code for fun. Not for selling
their products. 'They show 'em their friends' (ermm... almost)
And they are not bothered
if that demo (or what) does not work on amiga 5000 because THEY KNOW THAT|||
...
I don't care if my little piece of coding doesn't work on the next generation
of amigas because I am NOT selling it|
New Generation of Amigas coming out? Well, let's code something NEW...
...
Commercial Software, Public Domain Softwate etc MUST be coded using DOS|
But why shall I buy a thousands of $$ hardware and not beeing allowed to use
it (in my little home)???
( BTW Let's assume The Hardware Reference Manual is not not (sorry) beeing
  released because of any financial matters)
...
Remember the Amiga lived also because of the illegal hardware 'hitting' people.
If I cannot use the Custom chips so why not buying a PC? (More Power for less
money ??)
Now please don't say that the DOS (often) is more efficient than Hardware
'Hitting' because I KNOW THAT|
DOS is likely to be a lot of times more efficient and is surely easier to use.
BUT, it's less fun. And that's it. I mean... coding is (also) fun. Fun is
a main part of computing... I mean, you can't play or paint or word process
all day, can you?
AMIGAS are mostly (sic) HOME (sic), HOBBY (sic) Machines|
...
Maybe I'm out of date but I know a lot of people thinking like me.
And I am sure they WOULD sell A LOT of HWR RFRNC MNLS (at least in Europe).
And I am sure that that WOULD NOT effect COMMERCIAL AND PD SOFTWARE TO BE
CODED BADLY (Let's assume a certain amount of intelligence among those
planning to code 'serious' stuff).
...
Ok, hope nobody feeling hurt by this text. Don't try to convince me no Hardware
Reference would be good for me. I wouldn't beleive it.And forget Hardwired for
AGA. That WAS hitting HARD|
Sorry, I just HAD to say it|
...
Thanks, Werner at JK University, Linz.
...
BTW, strange, just when you think life could not possibly get worse (eg. no
     AGA sound improvement) it suddenly does. (eg. no Hardware References)
     (D. Adams)
From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A1200 Add-Ons
Date: 12 Nov 92 02:31:32 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1drhdrINN7d4@agate.berkeley.edu> kevinm@ocf.berkeley.edu (Kevin Miller) writes:
> I am very interested in the A1200, and look forward to it arriving here in the
> states, but I have two concerns about adding hardware.
> 
> From what I understand, the A1200 comes with only 2 meg chip RAM.  How would
> I go about adding 32-bit fast RAM?  What cost is involved?

There is provision for adding an expansion board through a port
in the bottom, which could contain fast RAM.  You can also add
16-bit "fast ram" via the PCMCIA port, though this is potentially
not as fast and more expensive per bit.

> From what I understand, the A1200 has no hard drive either.  Will I be able
> to EASILY add a hard drive (IDE or whatever)?  I don't want to buy the 
> machine and then find out that I'm stuck with a floppy-based system. NEVER
> again!

This ins't quite correct.  The A1200 can definitly be configured with
a hard drive, it's just that the first systems for the UK were set up
as floppy only systems.  I'm not sure why, but I would expect hard drive
systems and/or upgrade kits to be available soon, if not at the moment
of release.

-- 
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but no way officially representing:   uucp:   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!grr
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From: rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu (Robert Fentiman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: PC, Redneck President, and other bad news. (was Re: Amiga 1200)
Date: 7 Nov 1992 19:23:32 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu

#include <polliticalBS.h>
>
>Great!  Just what I want to read in c.s.a.a.  Political debates!  Isn't there a
>newsgroup ('alt.politics.bitch.about.clinton' :) you can go to?  This is an
>INTERNATIONAL AMIGA newsgroup, and unless Clinton is gonna change the Amiga in
>some way, I don't want to hear about him!
>
>
>-Eyvind

I hear the the big C is releasing a new "exec" chipset based on the new
"Bill" chip. :-)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: nilsco@ifi.uio.no (Nils Liaaen Corneliusen)
Subject: Re: 50MHz 68040 BSC Accelerator system
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:19:33 GMT
Originator: nilsco@vaavud.ifi.uio.no


In article <cfc.ANN@halmuc.muc.sub.org>, dolittle@halmuc.muc.sub.org (Ludwig Hurt) writes:
> We are a bsc dealer (not active). When we saw this folder the first
> time on the Amiga Exhibition in Nov. '91 in Cologne we told bsc that
> there was a mistake. Since we are delveloping ourselves using the
> 68040 I can say that it is *not* possible and due to our information
> it will *not* be possible to use a higher external clock rate then
> 33Mhz. So they said to us that these boards are 25Mhz boards, #BUT#
> they are *NOT* developed by bsc. They only sell them. I don't know
> whether current folders have been corrected.

You are right. All info about those turbocards seems to have been removed
from their new folders.

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