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From: 09143@ravel.udel.edu (Vikram Pillai)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Netiquette
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:25:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: ravel.18712
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <1992Apr9.215658.13507@colorado.edu> manu@tigger.Colorado.EDU (Njan) writes:
>In article <18706@ravel.udel.edu> 09143@ravel.udel.edu (Vikram Pillai) writes:
>>It is just this attitude of many (if not most) Indians that 'I'm going
>>to do what I want. Who cares a damn about anybody else?' that has

>Oh you mean to say that I should ask permission for posting something
>on the net? Does that mean that *you* or someone else will decide what
>I can say and what I can't? Isn't that againist the principle of 
>*unmoderated* group?
>

Rest of diatribe deleted for brevity.

>It's people like you who considers yourself as the guardian of morals
>for people who read sci who makes me sick. Do you have to be reminded
>all the time to *mind your own business*?
>Njan

You have quoted me out of context here. I was responding to Mr. Chacko's
allegation that personal e-mail was not confidential and that he would
do as he damn well pleases. I see no mention of the original thread
here.

BTW I don't care to thrust my morals on anybody else. But I do take
issue with the posting my e-mail without so much as a by your leave.

Disgustedly,
Vikram

"Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein
09143@brahms.udel.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: atulpule@alfred.carleton.ca (Ajit Tulpule)
Subject: GUJJU JOKES - AN OBSERVATION
Keywords: GUJJU JOKES
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 03:23:54 GMT


I dont know how far this is true, but looking at   all the

controversy and bad temper about gujju jokes, I think that

only those  who have ever  lived in  Bombay   and its free

cosmopolitan environment can truely appreciate a "Gujju" joke.



Ajit.

-----------------------------------------------
        Ajit Tulpule

email : atulpule@business.carleton.ca
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From: kumarv@blaze.rutgers.edu (kumar vadaparty)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: On New Tamil Newsgroup.
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:02:27 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


There is a mixup going on in this discussion.

Certainly, by design or by folly, Hindi is given an undue importance
over other languages (tamil, or whatever), IN INDIA.

But, that should not be a reason for creating a news group here.
No body discrinimates tamils here. I love those sambar recipes flowing
on this net.

kumar 
--
From: ascidamb@unity.ncsu.edu (Aruna Cidambi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: THE LIGHT OF MY LIFE......
Keywords: WOMEN, WOMEN AND WOMEN (NO WINE/SONG !!)
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:42:36 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University Project Unity

In article <Apr.10.17.25.52.1992.5710@yoko.rutgers.edu>, mchari@yoko.rutgers.edu (Murali Chari) writes:
|> RELATIONSHIP ???  HAVE YOU NOTICED ONE THING - THOUGH - NO DAMN WOMEN
							   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> EVER CONTRIBUTE TO THE NET EVEN ONCE ...........NOW HOW CAN WE EVER
			      ^^^^^^^^
	Thats a generalisation I would'nt want to make, if I were you, considering all the hell nettors are raising over generalisations in general, at present.	      
	
	BTW, could it be that some IW are too intelligent to waste their "TIME, ENERGY & EMOTIONS" over sci?:-) A possible reason could also be that, lacking the advantage their male counterparts possibly have over them viz.,100 gm more of brains (how much of this is grey matter is anybody's guess), they are unwilling to share what little they possess with the other netters:-). Or could it be because only empty vessels make the most noise?:-) Your guess is good as mine.

aruna.

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    Imagination was given to a man to compensate him for what he is not,

       and a sense of humor provided to console him for what he is.

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ascidamb@unity.ncsu.edu
From: mrangnat@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu (Ranganath Mulabagua   et240 Fall91)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: test
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:59:42 GMT
Organization: Ohio University, College of Engineering & Tech.

This is a test message, Please ignore.
From: skit@CS.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Hello From
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:49:51 GMT

Hi There!

skit.
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 21:32:13 EST
From: <CNED2142@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: What has happened to aslv, pslv and agni?
Distribution: usa
 <1992Apr7.164823.9422@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>

  does anybody know? they are all long overdue for launching. we
would all feel good when they get up in the air!

 chandru krishnan
From: IO00832@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: "Airfare to Bombay"
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:32:30 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

Could anyone mail me the address of a reliable and
economical travel agency. ( Boston to Bombay -- May -June)
From: sn00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Sudha Neelakantan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: INDIAN MEN and MARRIAGE
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:24:07 GMT
Organization: Masters student, Urban and Public Affairs, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

My $0.02 worth:
My gripe is that Indian men are really too difficult to date.  They
have a major attitude problem where women are either idealized
goddesses or whores
I see this as a far greater barrier to falling in love and marrying
someone than anything else.

This is of course in my limited experience

and I don't really care about the flames so all of you have my true
address...

Sudha

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 Sudha K. Neelakantan     < Clouds come floating into my life,  
       School of           \ no longer to carry rain or usher storm  
 Urban & Public Affairs     \ but to add color to my sunset sky.
    Carnegie Mellon          >    - Rabindranath Tagore -
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: asrini@falstaff.UVic.CA (Srinivasan  Anand)
Subject: Re: Novelist Sujatha
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 09:17:25 GMT

In article <12217@ns-mx.uiowa.edu> you write:

... Indian News Deleted ...

>Just for your info.One of Sujatha's novels  'Rattham Ore Niram'is
>being made into amovie by Bharathiraja.I had read the novel a long
>time ago and enjoyed it.
>
>Ganesh

That is news... who is the heroin? would be interesting
to note who acts as muthu karupan and selvi...

Was it "Rattam Ore Niram" which was banned in Ananda Vigatan (or Kumudam?)
for few months due to some controversy?  Then it was resumed
by Sujata again...

It was a story about British occupation of India, the hero
(muthu Karupan?) from madurai goes to north and fights against
Brits... Manian Selvan's drawings were excellent...

By the way, have anybody read, "Meendum Jeeno"? which is part
two of "En Iniya Iyendira"?  could anybody say whether it is
worth reading ? without giving away the suspense ofcourse...

Srini...

Srini...
From: venu@cirrus.com (Venu Nayar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Response to INDIAN MEN and MARRIAGE
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:39:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Cirrus Logic Inc.

In <1992Apr10.144705.15758@gatech.edu> niru@cc.gatech.edu (Niru Mallavarupu)
writes: 

>I appreciate the candid response from a few of you.
>Am glad that atleast a few were HONEST enough to
>agree with what I said. In this context, and in response
>to these responses, I would like to mention a few more
>points which  may  have been discussed  b'fore.

I like the attitude...seems pretty much *the* attitude of sci today. In
other words, if you agree with what I said, you are HONEST, if you dont, you
are not.

As far as the remarks about marriage, and how people choose to go about it,
all I have to say is that marriage is a personal thing, and each person has
his/her own approach to it. Condemning such a thing is IMHO wrong...if you
dont agree with arranged marraige, dont go for it. On the other hand, there
ae probably people who dont agree with love marriages too. Wouldn't you
consider such a view insular? If so, what allows you to be judgemental in
another persons life? Just my $0.02.
-- 
Venu Nayar			|		Internet: venu@cirrus.com
Cirrus Logic Inc.		|		(510)-226-2100 X3737
Yield to Temptation ... it may not pass your way again.
From: ngupta@mtl.mit.edu (Nitin Gupta)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Daylight Savings Time ---- Any advantage ?
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:42:19 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology



In article <1992Apr8.161001.8784@usl.edu> sgs1679@usl.edu (Sudhindranath  
Sira G) writes:

> I want to know whether there is any advantage in switching
> from the Standard Time to Daylight Savings Time during
> summer. Could any enlightened soul kindly explain ?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Sira Gopinath Sudhindranath.
> (sudhi@usl.edu)


The standard reasoning is that losing an hour in the spring and gaining  
one in the fall compensates for the change in the length of daylight,  
thereby saving energy. In the spring and summer months the sun sets an  
hour later in the evening as compared as without daylight savings, so the  
need to turn on lights is delayed for one hour. The sunlight in the  
morning similarly shines an hour later than without daylight savings, so  
less daylight is "wasted" in terms of being awake. As far as I know, the  
majority of countries do not adopt this time change policy.

Besides, an hour more of daylight allows one to go for a nice jog after  
being in lab all day!!

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small number of immutable laws. - Pierre-Simon de Laplace (1749-1827)
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From: surge@en.ecn.purdue.edu (PhD-in-Training)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Arranged Marriages...
Date: 14 Apr 92 02:18:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: en.1992Apr14.021831.14404
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Apr13.074641.19391@wpi.WPI.EDU> udumudi@maxine.wpi.edu (u v babu srinivas) writes:
>In his article <> surge@en.ecn.purdue.edu (PhD-in-Training) writes:
>
>=> If the dating-->romantic love marriage system SO SUPERIOR
>=> to the arranged marriage system then how come:
>=> 
>=> 	(1)  About 50% of US marriages end up in divorce (didn't
>=> 		the couple KNOW their partner pretty well?).  Why
>
>so you assume that the situation would remain as it is in india 
>if women were as independent (how much ever they are) as in usa?

No.  I agree that much more divorces would result if Indian women
were more independent, etc.  But this is not what I am discussing.

My main point of the post is the quality of a marriage is not dependent
upon whether its love or arranged.  People have argued various
reasons for love marriages that sound good (love being forgiving,
knowing each other well, etc).

However, I think that romantic love is transitory, and trying to
base a life-long relationship on that (as opposed to committment
or duty) is questionable.  Since a relationship changes constantly
and since romantic love does blind one's sensibilities, to think
that such a couple have some big advantage in the LONG RUN over
arranged ones is highly suspect.  My argument is that if the
proponents of love marriages were clearly correct, then one would
expect to see not only love marriages being usually quite happy,
but arranged marriages being usually quite UNhappy (except when
they work out by sheer "luck" without the benefit of a priori
romantic love).  I don't see this as the case.

So I ask the proponents of love marriages, why is there no great
difference?  Huh?

>-- srinivas

--Surajit (O.P.)
From: ghosh@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu (Sujit Ghosh ECE-GRAD Grad )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Information
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:59:15 GMT
Organization: Ohio University, College of Engineering & Tech.

Hi netters,

This is for the first time I am posting.

 I want to go to L.A. in summer for three months from Ohio.Could anyone
 give me any information of getting a good deal.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: picardo@ces.cwru.edu (Leslie Picardo)
Subject: Re: On the existence of Paramatma
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science, Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 15:59:58 GMT


In article <1992Apr10.140932.537@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> rps@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (raj.sharma) writes:

>	
>	Sankara said: Self is real and World is illusion;
>	              and Self is the World.



      Oh I get it. Its like when Bill Clinton admits he smoked pot
      (Reality) but tells us that he didn't inhale (Illusion ). 

      But I still can't figure out - if Self is the World and the
      World is Illusion, then the Self should be Illusion. But Sankara
      says Self is real.  

      Sankara must have been in a constant state  of euphoria.

 
 
 



     


     


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko)
Subject: Re: INDIAN MEN and MARRIAGE
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 21:52:17 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.213139.26298@gatech.edu> soc.culture.indian writes:

>I find 99% of Indian men still tied to MAMA's pallu, in other words, 
>they DO NOT DARE to choose their own life partner. 

This is so stupid. Surely you aren't claiming that you have had personal
experience with 99% of the male Indian population.

>They might freak out here with Indian girls ( if they find someone) and 
>with American girls too. 

Freak out here with Indian girls.....an alarming possibility!

George
Organization: Masters student, Urban and Public Affairs, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Date: Wed,  8 Apr 1992 23:25:35 -0400 
From: Sudha Neelakantan <sn00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Netiquette

gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko) writes:
> In many ways I agree with udcrusd@meaddata.com. I've been receiving a stream
> of half-witted e-mail all day from various illiterates and I'm getting tired
> of it. I'm going to start dumping it on the net if I think it's unusually 
> stupid because that's where it belongs since it was my posting(s)
> that aroused the need to communicate in these persons.
> 
> 
> George
I agree and I would appreciate people posting their replies to the net
if they think what they have to say is not appropriate amybe they
shouldn't bother to say it

N.B.  I replied to the only reasonable mail I got


Sudha

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 Sudha K. Neelakantan     < Clouds come floating into my life,  
       School of           \ no longer to carry rain or usher storm  
 Urban & Public Affairs     \ but to add color to my sunset sky.
    Carnegie Mellon          >    - Rabindranath Tagore -
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:14432 soc.culture.sri-lanka:497
From: rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: Re: soc.culture.tamil
Date: 15 Apr 92 02:28:44 GMT
Organization: Junior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I think it's a good idea. In this forum, we could discuss things that
are common to all Tamils. Without dragging fracticidal politics &
regionalism into,  this new outlet could be very useful.  After all,
Tamils from India & Sri Lanka are just about in every corner of the
world. From Toronto to Sydney. The time has come for
soc.culture.tamil.international.

Suresh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: acharya@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Subject: Re: Response to Caucasian/Indian problem
Reply-To: acharya@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 00:03:28 GMT

>        The reason behind this concern may be that Indians on the whole
>are pretty serious minded. I personally have noticed that as compared to
>Americans or even Europeans, we take life a lot seriously. Also marriage
>(or even relationship with a member of the opposite sex) is treated as 
>something special by us. Marriage is a very sacred institution back in 
>India and we do not have as many divorces as people from the FIRST world... 
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	often because social "pressure" prevents us from doing so. 

-mukund acharya
From: ram@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ram Devanathan)
Subject: Re: TAMIL NADU / LTTE / IPKF
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 02:00:33 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.002604.15707@ccng.waterloo.edu> mvishnu@bbcr1.uwaterloo.ca (Meenan Vishnu) writes:
>Some Indians, as evident from there postings on TN/IPKF/LTTE seem to have 
>the idea that since India is a big country, it can bully its neighbors as
>it pleases and that the affected people should just keep quite.
        The affected people are the Indians, who after giving refuge to
the SriLankan Tamils, find themselves at the recieving end of the LTTE
gun culture. It is amusing to see SriLankan Tamils lay claim on Tamil
Nadu as if it is their ancestral property. 

>Well wake up guys!  This is the age of guerrilla warfare, where 
>unrightous big ugly aggressrors are beaten by small armed forces
>US by Vietnam, USSR by Afghanistan, and  IPKF by LTTE.
       The IPKF fought a war with its hands tied behind its back.
Men from all over India went to a foreign country, were killed and
maimed there and what did they find back home in India(especially
Tamilnadu) - traitorous glorification of the LTTE and vilification of
the IPKF. I can understand Indians criticising the sacrifice of Indian
lives by Mr. Rajiv Gandhi to enforce peace in a foreign land. I can
even understand criticism of the IPKF for ALLEGED atrocities in Sri
Lanka; but how can you criticise the IPKF while glorifying the
LTTE.
RD
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.sri-lanka
From: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Subject: Re: Bride wanted 
Reply-To: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 18:32:28 GMT

In article <1992Apr4.025552.4335@midway.uchicago.edu> moh2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1992Apr3.030936.13131@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> p2018756@cumulus.csd.unsw.OZ.AU (Chetan) writes:
>>Looking for a Bride:
>>
>>Masters in Compter Science and BE in Electrical Engineering with a very
>>good academic background and vivacius personality is looking for a well-
>>educated, broad-minded girl. Caste no bar. Please email:
>>
>>	p2018756@cumulus.csd.unsw.oz.au
>
>I'm really, really confused.  Are you serious?  Is this a joke I'm just not
>getting?  I've heard of picking people up over the net...but this...
>
>Wow.  Boggles the mind.

Why not?  It IS the 1990's  :)
>
>	

-- 
 Michael Le Houllier           *  John 3:16  * Nov 12, 1991 - Dili      
 (m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu.us) *  Remember: June 4, 1989 - Beijing
 Go BLUE JAYS   0-0   at Tigers Monday, Wednesday and Thursday
 End the strike.  Get back on the ice.  Get the playoffs going.
From: sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: On the existence of Paramatma
Date: 9 Apr 1992 22:47:34 -0500
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <2465@creatures.cs.vt.edu> you write:
>In article <16535@plains.NoDak.edu> sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan ) writes:
>
>
>>This also falls in line with Adi-shankara's MONISM where everything
>>is attributed to the WILL of the creator.
>
>
>I have a suspicion that Shankara had a lot to do with lack of
>assertiveness we find in many Indians. I am always surprised at the
>ease with which many Indians can carry two blatantly contradictory ideas
>in their head. Probably every one does it to certain extent but it is
>my perception that Indians can take it to extremes. I think the 
>argument that what you see around you is a 'maya' or 'mithya' had a
>devastating  effect on the common sense of many people.
>
>>Sivaram
>
>Ramana

         Suppose that we go to a movie theatre to watch the famous 3-D
 picture "My dear kutti chaathaan". We know that what we are watching is
 a movie-unreal. Yet, we cannot stop jumping from our seats when an arrow
 comes right towards us.  This is called "maya"- illusion.
         Human life is very similar to this example. The screen where
 different movies are played is our mind . The pictures running on it are
 the worldly things. When we associate ourselves to worldly things, when we
 attach ourselves to this world, these worldly things appear real to us.
 If one can free himself from the worldly thoughts, he has no worries,no
 greed, no enmity and attains absolute peace. That is called renunciation.
 Absolute happiness. Oneness with the Paramatma -God.
        I like to mention one parable from Buddhism. 
        A big party was in progress. When the people fell into asleep, a
 thief who noticed this silently dropped by , took their possessions and ran 
 away. The party people who woke up could not find the thief in their search.
 They asked Buddha "Did you find a thief on your way? He took all our
 possessions". Buddha smiled at them and asked in turn " Would you like to
 search the thief or would you like to search yourselves ? " The people fell
 at his feet and became his disciples. Buddha taught them his principles 
 thenafterwards. 
        The bottomline is that the worldly possessions are unreal. If they are
 real, they should be real at all times. When a man sleeps, he has no
 conciousness about any of his possessions, his relatives,his enemies or
 whatever. He is in a state of happiness. The moment he wakes up, the moment
 he attaches himself into the world, he is unhappy. He has worries,anxieties,
 tax forms, all kinds of things. The world is real to him. Yet,he is unhappy.
        Shankara calls this worldly attachment as "Maya". He suggests people
 to realise their true SELF - to understand who they are.  Realising the true
 self is the ABSOLUTE KNOWLEDGE in the upanishads' teachings.
                                                               Vashistha.
                                                         sp2@cecq1.wustl.edu