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From: mouse@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Y&R: WHUTTTTT????!  Jill slept with Victor?!
Date: 9 Oct 92 10:43:51 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <3596@creatures.cs.vt.edu>, debra@creatures.cs.vt.edu (Debra Potts) writes:
> I caught Jill & Victor in
> bed and smiling and talking about what great sex they had...
> This just has brought up a wellspring of anger folks, at the writing of
> the Victor character.  Only one more rant, I promise:  I wish that they
> would FOR ONCE get real and treat this something like real life...
> He could have
> an emotional breakdown (yes, not bathing, not combing the hair, wearing
> dirty sweatsuits around the house and eating frozen dinners right out of
> the box!) wondering what the REAL purpose of his life has been.
> 
> I would LOVE to see something as provocative as this, and I can think of at
> least 20 high-tension storylines that could be spun off from this as the
> big Breakdown of Victor begins to affect the lives of those around him.
> 
> Brainstorm with me, people?  What do you think?
> 
> Yours curiously,
>                         ......deb
-- 

Deb... that is a GREAT idea!!!!  WISH the writers would go for it.
It would actually help us to feel sorry for him (provided it lasted
longer than 1 day as a token throwaway sop to us).  Imagine
Douglas fussing around and trying to get him to eat little 
goodies, but Victor with no appetite.  Victor up to his ears
with boredom playing chess.  Every woman in town "busy" when
he calls.  The famous debouched bags under his sad eyes.  Might
even let his moustache droop... love it.

Nancy

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From: bartosch@felix.filenet.com (Diane M. Bartosch)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN Thanks for the greetings
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:51:33 GMT
Reply-To: bartosch@fritz.filenet.com (Diane M. Bartosch)
Distribution: na
Organization: FileNet Corp., Costa Mesa, CA

I just wanted to take time to thank all of you who sent birthday
greetings to my husband and I.  For some stupid reason I cannot
reply through my regular mail system to thank you all separately.

Thanks again.  You sure all a very special group!
Diane
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From: rick@sadtler.com (Rick Morris)
Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN: Football -- A Dark Day for Dallas
Organization: Sadtler Research Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:07:21 GMT

Janet Greathouse wrote:
>pokey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Vince Rhee) writes:
>
>>        It may have something to do with the fact that Philly (ack
>>        gack barf gag) just throttled Dallas tonight by a truly
>>        embarassing score
>>
>Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. I'm happy to say that *although*
>the `Boys didn't smear the Eagles last night, they *did* do better
>than most teams who have played them this year.
>           ...
>The Cowboys are looking great. They're a young team, improving, loaded
>with talent.
>           ...
>able to do it was the Eagles. We'll play the Eagles again next month.
>We'll get'em then.
>

I didn't see the game (9:00 ZZZZZZZzzzz....) but the paper said that
Dallas did not get as trounced as the score showed.  Dallas was
never "out of it".  Soooooo, Next month in Dallas.... Who knows?
The Philadelphia Pigeons are famous for their CHOKE when they are
winning......"Snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!"

>>        Oh well, at least Buddy Ryan wasn't around on the sidelines
>>        to gloat... :-)

8-(    <------They are only so good because of Buddy!  (I'll probably
	      be saying that long after all Buddy players are passed
	      on.....  8-)    )

-Rick.
-- 
Rick Morris                            Email:  rick@sadtler.com
Sadtler Research Labs, Philadelphia   -But I speak for myself
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From: harris@drvax3.msfc.nasa.gov (Mitch Harris)
Subject: Re: AMC: Hayley/Brian/Dixie
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Date: 11 Oct 92 03:47:35 GMT

Jennifer Allyson Turner <jt3j+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>Okay, I like Hayley and I feel it's time that I jumped in and defended
>her.  I know that she jumped off the wagon and wasn't pushed, but
>everything wasn't her fault.
>Brian was bopping some other *girl* while they were apart.  She expected

>What makes Brian such a scum is that he got Hayley's hopes up about them
>getting back together and then she found out that he was sleeping with
>her father's ex-wife, a friend of hers.

Well, I hafta disagree with you here. I don't think Brian got her hopes
up. He told her several times he needed space to think about who he
wanted to be with. She was pushy to the max, throwing herself at him.
Now I'm not saying all of this is Haley's fault. But Haley has turned
into a feminine version of Adam. She didn't *really* think Brian would
choose his "bimbo", since she decided she wanted him. Haley has become
whiney to the max, and thinks everything should go her way because
that's the way she wants it. I used to like Haley when she was
independent and had some common sense. But not anymore.

Personally, I think Haley needs to spend some time ti herself and forget
about romance for awhile. She needs to grow up. I'm tired of her
whiney-ness. Maybe if she spent some time just doing "normal" stuff,
like work & go to school, she'd be happier & more mature. (Of course,
Haley lives in PV, so I don't know why I'd think she'd every manage
without a romantic interest 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.)

....posted for Beverly H.

--
Mitch Harris                           |  New Technology Inc.
(205)-544-2846                         |  700 Boulevard South, #401
drvax3!harris@freedom.msfc.nasa.gov    |  Huntsville, AL  35802
From: mjheal@bnr.ca (MJ Heal)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Character opinions
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:12:39 GMT
Reply-To: mjheal@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR, Ottawa, ON, Canada

In article <1992Oct8.050056.27193@athena.cs.uga.edu>, stanton@athena.cs.uga.edu (Catherine Stanton) writes:
 
|> Jack is so hot (IMNSHO) Drake is okay...but I have to completely agree
|> with you that Tim is NASTY and so is Jesse.  Tim looks like the stereotypical
|> arrogant stuck up asshole male I run into so often here on campus..and
|> I think his looks are NIL.  Talk about some close-set weasley eyes.
|> And the sideburns? Excuse me while I throw up all over the place.  He
|> really is just the complete antithesis of EVERYTHING I find attractive
|> in a guy and I also read today that he DIPS.  Figures, that just fits
|> in so well with the nasty idiot snob-hick category I've stereotyped him
|> in.  

	Excuse me.  But what exactly does DIPS mean???  And why is it so
	bad?

|> Cat

	MJ Limer
-- 
MJ Heal        *        BNR,Ottawa,ON,Canada        *        mjheal@bnr.ca
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Being married to Jack Deveraux is like cuddling up with Chuckles the Clown
              and a depressed pit bull at the same time.
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 !!! Matt got a haircut !!! Matt got a haircut !!! Matt got a haircut !!!
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From: mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu (Mary E. Allison)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: update for Monday 10/12
Date: 13 Oct 1992 23:44:50 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu
Keywords: Are We stupid or what?

mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu (Mary E. Allison) writes:

dwv@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Dave Vollman) writes:

>First, I'd like to apoligize for the breifness of this update?
>The roof fell in at work, and I'm trying to find some signs
>of life, mainly my own. Anyone with additional comments, feel
>free to fill in the gaps. Thanks!

And that's partly my fault too because he wrote to me YESTERDAY and
didn't know if I was doing the update or if HE was doing the update.  

OH - I'd like to introduce you all to Dave, who will be doing Monday's
until the end of the year.  Things are REALLY crazy here (says the
person who's reading her news before she leaves at 6:30 p.m.) so I'm
continuing my retirement for a bit.

OH - and DAVE -- I tried to send you mail but it bounced 

THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH

>10) How does Carter keep his stubble at a consistent length?

I have NO idea -- I've always wondered about men that can do this.  
--
I never met a chocolate I didn't like.
  -- Deanna Troi, ST:TNG

    Mary Allison (mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu) Urbana, Illinois
Catx2 Owned, Square Dancer, Leaper, Ballroom Dancer in training 
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From: debbiek@rruxc.uucp (25670s-kennedy)
Subject: Re: AMC: did Gloria think...
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 13:27:26 GMT

In article <9210091337.AA09792@inferno.Kodak.COM>, ljhaynes@KODAK.COM (Lisa Haynes) writes:
> During Thursday's show, after Gloria kissed Stuart, did she think to
> herself, "Gee, Adam and Stuart sure do kiss differently.  Now why
> couldn't Trevor tell the difference between Natalie and Janet?"
> 
> Rhetorically yours,
> Lisa J
> ljhaynes@kodak.com

I don't think Adam has given up on playing Stuart.
But Glo is getting hip to the dip.  Next time maybe
she will do a kiss test.

Erica might give Glo a clue, i.e. about the wedding ring.
I always try to see it and never catch a glimpse of Adam as
Stuart's left hand.
                                *********************
Deb                             Since I gave up hope,
                                I feel much better.
                                *********************
From: wanday@wandaful.Corp.Sun.COM (Wanda Y. Wong, Corp. Consolidations, x67827)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: HAve the damn baby already:~(
Date: 14 Oct 1992 23:27:38 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: wanday@wandaful.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: wandaful.corp.sun.com


I am not sure where I heard this but aren't there 40 weeks in a 
pregnancy?  Any of you experienced in this department have any
comments?

Wanda2

In article 26858@cbfsb.cb.att.com, kjs@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (kelly.smith) writes:
> In article <1992Oct14.130903.15024@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, 22302LMK@MSU writes:
> 
> > Ok, I will probably get flamed but to each his/her own. I wish jack and Jenn
> > would have the damn baby already, I am so sick of them and this kid. I mean
> > have the kid and let's get on with it.
> 
> 	No flames here, I agree.  I believe Jan. 10th was the conception
> 	on the stage of Ask Dr. Love (someone correct me if I'm wrong).
> 	So if I count on my fingers hat make Jenn exactly 9 months preggers
> 	as of Oct. 10th.  It just seems like forever with the crap that's
> 	been going on.
> > 
> > 
> > Blueberry
> 
> 		Boysenberry
> 




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(415) 336-7827				2550 Garcia Ave.
wanda.wong@Corp.Sun.COM			Mountain View, CA  94043
					M/S PAL1-208
From: ep2k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Elizabeth Amral Pereira)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GH: Brenda's party
Date: 10 Oct 92 22:44:21 GMT
Organization: Freshman, Drama, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I think that if anything bad had been hapening to Robin, Jagger would
have saved her like he tried to before the fight.  But I agree the party
was really disapponting.  Although it was interesting to see the way
Jagger stopped talking to Brenda when Robin came in all made up.  Could
there be a couple in the making , might be interesting.

Liz
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From: sheri@cbnewse.cb.att.com (sherlyn.k.johnson)
Subject: AMC: Melanie
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 11:55:21 GMT

Did anyone happen to see the Lactaid commerical that's on now with
Melanie? I wonder if Paige Turco's Turtle career is over.

Sheri J.
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From: koerber@convex.com (Christine Koerber)
Subject: Re: GL:Blake/Roger/Ross-a thought
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 03:08:26 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

es03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ERIKA K. SELL) writes:

>In article <Eep2shi00YV9E0yik1@andrew.cmu.edu>, sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu (Susan R. W
>agner) writes:
>>Hello GL fans,  I have an observance to make about Rogers disgust with
>>Blake and Ross's relationship.  I would like to know the difference
>>between these two and he and Mindy.  He was sleeping, having a child
>>with Mindy, the daughter of another of his worst enemies.  He told Mindy
>>that Billy would understand. It seems to me that Roger has a double
>>standard (although this doesn't surprise me, whats good for goose isn't
>>always good for the gander).  What do you all think about this?
>>
>>Susan Wagner
>>
>I thought the same thing when this all happened - I guess things are different
>whenever Roger is involved. What ever suits him is the only answer. I really
>wish things where that way for me.

>                                          Erika

yet another lurker emerges...

The last thing I want to do is sympathize with Roger, but I think he's 
not just angry because blake is "sleeping with the enemy" but because 
of the extent of her betrayal.  Blake is about the only person Roger 
trusts, and she used that trust to screw him over pretty good.  Make
no mistake, I'm cheering blake on (for once) but what she did to Roger 
really cut to the heart (if he has one).

Christine
From: cad3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHERYL ANN DOUGHERTY)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC:MEK Alert!!!!!!
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:35:39 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Oct6.205147.23456@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, wicksd@hermes.ecn.purdu
e.edu (Donna M Wicks) writes:
>
>    Someone mentioned earlier about seeing a preview for
>Northern Exposure that showed MEK. She was right. I got
>a good look this afternoon and it's definitey him. He seems
>to be having problems understanding something a native islander
>is saying. His hair is shorter than I've ever seen it, but it
>is him for all you MEK fans - it's on at 10 p.m. ABC.

    _Northern_Exposure_ is on Monday nights at 10 p.m. on NBC.
One of Falsey and Brand's other shows (_Going_To_Extremes_) is on ABC at the
same time on Tuesday.  I wouldn't want any MEK fans to miss him by tuning in
to the wrong network.

    --Cheryl

P.S. Did any other MEK fans catch his performance on _Grapevine_, a
(luckily) short-lived summer series?  MEK had a guest role as the husband of a
philandering wife.  Maybe true fans are better off if they missed it; his
character was such a wimp that it took me 20 minutes to realize that the actor
was really MEK--the most extreme example of an actor playing against type that
I've ever encountered.
>
>  People have been mentioning about Kim Delaney being in Lady
>Boss this Sunday. For those of you who have the E (or Entertainment)
>channel on your cable system they have been showing a Behind the
>Scenes about this movie for more than a month.
>
>   BTW, The E channel is great, it's 24-hour information on
>all kinds of things about the entertainment business. My BH
>got me hooked on Talk Soup which shows highlights of all the
>talk shows from the previous week - it's great.
>
>*******************************************************************************
>Donna Wicks                My life is like a photon that travels billions
>Purdue University          of light years only to end up at the bottom
>wicksd@ecn.purdue.edu      of an amateur astronomer's telescope, unseen
>                          by the untrained eye.
>*******************************************************************************
>
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From: mjheal@bnr.ca (MJ Heal)
Subject: Re: DOOL: Baby Deveraux
Reply-To: mjheal@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR, Ottawa, ON, Canada
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 12:27:56 GMT

|> In article <21377@drutx.ATT.COM>, FriersonCL writes:
|>  
|> My guess is that they will name the baby after Jennifer if it is a girl.
|> Her name will be Rose Deveraux.  The only problem is that I can't figure
|> any middle name that would match.

	Hey, that would mean they would be naming the baby after Jennifer.
	Nay,  we can't have that!!!

	MJ Limer

-- 
MJ Heal        *        BNR,Ottawa,ON,Canada        *        mjheal@bnr.ca
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Being married to Jack Deveraux is like cuddling up with Chuckles the Clown
              and a depressed pit bull at the same time.
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From: dooley@aurora.physics.utoronto.ca (Lois-Anna Dooley)
Subject: Re: GL: Spoilers from new SOD
Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:56:08 GMT

In article <1bii02INNb1@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> plaice@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Marcie Plaice) writes:
>
Eleni turns her back on love in
>order to do the right thing.  

I hope you mean "sex" and not "love"... I don't care if she doesn't
sleep with Frank for now, but if she disses him one more time I'm
outta here!

>Someone should shoot Holly... I'll even volunteer!

No jury would convict you!

>Is everyone else as sick of the baseball playoffs as I am?

Normally I would be, but the Blue Jays WON!!!  I'm not a sports fan
by any definition, but the mood here in Toronto right now is so great, I
don't even mind fewer GL's!


L-A


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From: patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward)
Subject: Re: AMC: Godzilla Speaks Update (c) 921009
Reply-To: patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 17:16:13 GMT

>>a wedding, perhaps. And what was with Gloria in BROWN -- for a
>>wedding?

I thought Gloria looked great in that dress -- its nice, warm color
did something for her.  She must be an autumn or spring!

>Just more color coordination ... after all, Mimi was wearing a coffee
>colored dress, and she was a bridesmaid.

Heh -- I thought Mimi's dress was nicer than the bride's!  Livia
really did look like Glinda in it, it was MUCH too frou-frou for her.
She would have looked very nice in something more tailored, but soft.
And that veil!  My DEARS!  It nearly made me scream.  Someone said
they thought it looked like it belonged in "Conan the Barbarian", but
I couldn't get past the impression that it looked like a stylized
Indian headdress, with a veil instead of feathers!  ?:^P
-- 
Pat Martin Steward                          patstew@oz.plymouth.edu
I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is;
I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express senti-
ments that differentiate me from a doormat.       Rebecca West, 1913
From: cad3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHERYL ANN DOUGHERTY)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Jervision
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:59:30 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Oct9.152144.20098@cbnewse.cb.att.com>, sheri@cbnewse.cb.att.com
(sherlyn.k.johnson) writes:
>In article <BvtAu6.JuF@scd.hp.com>, susanm@an.hp.com (Susan Margulies) writes:
>> sherlyn.k.johnson (sheri@cbnewse.cb.att.com) wrote:
>> : Then there's the Martins.  What can you say about parents that let
>> : their children go upstairs to wax their skies and never see them again.
>> : Obviously, they were not too worried.
>>

    Can someone explain this reference for me?  Which Martin child went
    upstairs to wax his/her skis and was never seen again?  Also, wasn't
    it either Joe or his brother Paul MANY years ago who sent a child away
    to summer camp?  The child didn't return at the end of the summer and was
    never mentioned again.

--Cheryl


>Sheri J.
>
>> Susan
>> --
>
From: burnett@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Cathy Burnett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: HF: Gina (was Thoughts on October 1)
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:05:14 GMT
Reply-To: burnett@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Cathy Burnett)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

I think I remember there was a possibility of Gina being deported
and she had to prove that she would not be a burden to
the Government by getting a good job.  Well, she was
starting her seamstress business but she wasn't getting
any orders.  It turns out that Mr. Sloan donates money
to Abe to have the church choir robes made (by Gina)
so when the officials come to check up on her, she has
all these orders and they let her stay.  Also, Mr. Sloan
is able to help support Gina without her knowing it because
previously, she had refused the Sloan's help.

Is this close to how it happened or did I imagine it?
(That's been known to happen in the past) :-)

CB
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From: kriesel@lars.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Julie R Kriesel)
Subject: ATWT
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:23:17 GMT



Hello, everybody!  Boy, has it been a long time...or maybe it just seems
like it has been...I spent most of last week studying for the most evil
test in the world--the GRE.  Thank God it's over.  

A question: One day last week (don't remember when) at the end of an
episode, Babs picked up the phone and said something like "Tess, it's
you?  Where  are you?  Etc..."  I don't remember hearing anything more 
about that.  Did they ever say what happened to Tease, or is she assumed
to be in Alva?

About Friday's show:

SighVa should kick JohnnyD in the butt.  (hard.)  I know that it's a big\
deal to him that the family finds out about Error, but it should be her
choice when to tell them--he is just jumping in where he doesn't have
any right to do so.

If Frantic is as stupid as we all think she is, of course she'll agree to
that "inpatient treatment" from Doctor Adler.  It sounds like kind of a 
lame reason to have her stay, just because she can't be hypnotized.  I've
done some reading about that, and it is my understanding that there are 
some people that can be, and some people that just aren't susceptible to
it.  (Actually, I was hoping that H2D would do something dramatic like
bonk her over the head with a croquet mallet.  ;-))

Where, oh where, has duhHutch gone?  (drool...)  I'm not going to get to
see him with his shirt off until next spring, now--it's too late!  (deep
sigh.)  He can't stay in Texas forever.  I want to see what is going to
happen between him and RoseHand and GetEven.  (Actually, I REALLY want to
see what happens when GetEven finds out that he is ACDC's kid and that he
has the hots for his half-sister.  Gross!)

At any rate, I have to go catch up on the homework that I didn't get done
last week.  E-mail gratefully appreciated--I've been getting very little
of late.

Special K