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From: ccksb@trentu.ca (Ken Brown)
Subject: Attn: DEC re: Pathworks Mail features
Reply-To: ccksb@trentu.ca (Ken Brown)
Organization: Trent University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:54:52 GMT


Hey DEC!  Maybe this little ditty is worth noting for future improvements
to Pathworks....

In article <1993Jan7.171227.18137@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, houseman@Turing.ORG (Carl Houseman) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.155625.18804@trentu.ca> ccksb@trentu.ca (Ken Brown) writes:

>How do I carbon copy a message with Pathworks Mail?  I really want the
>equivalent of VMS MAIL `send/cc'.  (I'm using version 4.1).

In article <1993Jan7.171227.18137@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, houseman@Turing.ORG (Carl Houseman) writes:

>Isn't it a shame that DEC couldn't provide Pathworks with a decent mail
>interface?  IMHO the Pathworks 3.0 mail interface was far better and should
>have been improved, not replaced.  Anyway, to answer your question:
>
>After you type in To: and Subject:, move your cursor up to beginning of the
>Subject: line, press Enter, and type CC: your-cc-list.  You'll have something
>on the screen that looks like:
>
>To:   whoever
>CC:   your-cc-list
>Subj: your subject
>
>At least they allowed the VMS server half of mail to interpret the CC:
>properly.  If you want copies to yourself, you'll also note that the VMS
>COPY_SELF settings aren't observed (another reduced functionality compared
>to PW 3.0 PCMAIL), instead you have to use MAILSETU to get yourself a copy,
>or write yourself in on the CC: line.
>
>Carl Houseman
>GENICOM Engineering
>houseman@turing.org (good only through 1/8/93)
>


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Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: a722756@roper.mc.ti.com (W. Donald Rolph)
Subject: Re: Need Customer Feedback!
Originator: a722756@roper.mc.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments / Attleboro Mass / USA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:09:04 GMT


In article <1993Jan7.045820.23005@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>, wasser@ranger.enet.dec.com (ranger::wasser) writes:
|> > I have an IBM 9515 XGA [display adapter].  I'm trying to set it up to 
|> > use [PC] DECwindows [Motif] at the full screen capacity of my monitor 
|> > (1024x768, 256 colors).  
|> 
|> 	Unfortunately DEC ran out of money before we could
|> 	ship this feature.  If enough people contact the
|> 	PATHWORKS for DOS Product Manager (Anita Uhler, 
|> 	uhler@ranger.enet.dec.com) asking for XGA support 
|> 	in PC DECwindows Motif then there is a chance that 
|> 	the feature will find funding for a future release.
|> 
|> 	Unfortunately is is hard to justify adding features
|> 	to PC DECwindows Motif when we give it away free
|> 	with PATHWORKS for DOS.  With no feedback in the
|> 	form of sales figures we can't tell if the expense
|> 	is justified.  Customer feedback is our only hope.


For what its worth, the inclusion of DWDOS and the other full function features
of pathworks (pc-mail etc) are what makes it very attractive for our shop.  We
are deploying a design dsata management system based on pathworks DWDOS as the
delivery system, and couldn't contemplate the project without the presence of
DWDOS.  I am  truly sorry that DEC doesn't realize the potential competitive
advantage this product offers them.  (By the way John, does that mean you have my
DWDOS286 bug report on your desk?!).       
-- 

Regards.
 
Don Rolph  a722756@pan.mc.ti.com WD3 MS10-13 (508)-699-1263
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Subject: RE: Infoserver 100 for Remote Boot
From: "Nalley, Gary K." <nallegk@OKRA.MILLSAPS.EDU>
Date: 06 Jan 1993 16:23:31 -0600 (CST)
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X-cc:         yingling@hcob.wmich.edu

We use InfoServers to assist with remote booting here, but your VMS systems
are the ones which will service the MOP request.  We use the InfoServer to
service the Remote Boot LAD itself (i.e. service name 08-00-2b-xx-xx-xx),
but it is my understanding that VMS has to service the initial MOP request
and TSK file load.  I would love it if I was wrong on this.

Gary


        +-------------------------------------------------------+
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        |   Computer Services      nallegk@okra.millsaps.edu    |
        |   Millsaps College       nalley@decus.org             |
        |   1701 N. State St.      Fax:    601.974.1168         |
        |   Jackson, MS 39210      Voice:  601.974.1140         |
        +-------------------------------------------------------+



> From: yingling@GW.WMICH.EDU
> Subject: Infoserver 100 for Remote Boot
> To: Multiple recipients of list LANWORKS <LANWORKS@MIAMIU.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU>
>
> Greetings All!  Hope you all had a good holiday...
>
> I need some help in making an Infoserver 100 service MOP requests to
> PC's using PW4DOS.  Here are a few germane bits of data with
> respect to our setup:
>
>         DOS 5.0
>         PW 4.1 (using DECnet)
>         120 (hard) diskless PC's
>         80 hard drive equipped PC's
>
>         DEPCA_H has been installed on the Infoserver
>         MOP services have been enabled
>         Partition is named: DEPCA_H
>         Infoserver has not been rebooted (at least not since MOP service was
>           created/enabled)
>
> The point is that the Infoserver DOES receive the REQUEST for MOP service,
> but there is no evidence that any further action is done by the Infoserver.
>
> I thought that I read here that several of these PW4DOS sites were
> using the Infoserver for DEPCA_H.TSK files (i.e. the MOP service files for
> DEPCA equipped PCs) on diskless remote boot machines....if any one that
> might be able to help needs more data, let me know!
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Ralph N. Yingling, Director       yingling@hcob.wmich.edu  (Internet)
> College Computing Services
> Haworth College of Business   --  Western Michigan University
> Kalamazoo, MI 49008               (616) 387-5356
>                                   YES, There really IS a Kalamazoo!
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: engel_w@vnabrw::pscs04.enet.dec.com (vnabrw::pscs04::engel_w)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Another hint
Date: 6 Jan 93 05:00:15 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Posted-Via: NEWS-NOTES gateway (a hack!)

Hi Helen,

try to add a

netnoblock=flase

in your system.ini 386enh section.


This usually helps to correct the "use in dosbox".

Werner
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Subject: subscription request
From: Tom Robbins <t_robbins1@LUKE.SPU.EDU>
Date: 05 Jan 1993 17:24:13 -0800 (PST)
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subscribe LANWORKS Tom Robbins

Please enter my name in your list server subscription list.

Thank you,


Tom Robbins
Computer Systems Projects Mgr.
Computer & Information Systems Dept.
Seattle Pacific University

t_robbins@mark.spu.edu
(206)281-2427
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Re(2): Pathworks for PC Proxy Access
From: Jim Becker <BECKERJA%WPO1P%WPO2V@SNYCENVA.BITNET>
Date: 07 Jan 1993 07:54:00 -0500 (EST)
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One clarifying question (mostly for myself).

Is it true that only the first file service connection is
serviced through NETBIOS in order to create the session and after
that it's straight DECnet or LAST depending on the use of
LANSESS?

If true, the system service accounts for the first, so any user
related connections should work correctly this way.

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================== Original message text ===================

Subj:     RE: Re(2): Pathworks for PC Proxy Access

     ...The standard socket routine for making DECnet connects
(dnet_conn) which is used in all DECnet-DOS utilities will pick
this up and stuff it in the appropriate place for proxy
information.  VMS will only use it if all other info is not
present....

        This doesn't work with NETBIOS sessions (I don't
think?... don't remember) which will include PCSA file services.

        Dave (former DNP author)
From: makinc@hhcs.gov.au (Carl Makin)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Digital answer to VMS pthwks print problem.
Date: 5 Jan 93 12:14:38 +1100
Organization: Aust. Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services

Well I finally got an answer back from Digital Service regarding
the problem of not being able to print to LTA or TTA devices from
Pathworks for VMS (Macintosh) created queues if the device is
spooled.

This is a feature.

Yep, that was the answer.  This is a FEATURE!  CRAP!  I was told
to raise a SPR if I wanted the action changed.  The engineer who
answered the Digital Service person's internal query stated that
he couldn't see any advantage to having devices spooled and that
there were several disadvantages including extra overhead, no
access to the spooled file etc.  Yeah right, it would be nice if
this "feature" was noted in the documentation.

Great guys.  I'm really impressed with THIS level of service. :-(

Carl
the extremely annoyed.
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Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services, Canberra, Australia.
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Subject: RE: Zenith 286 & PATHWORKS - Many Thanks
From: HENRY@VUCTRVAX.BITNET
Date: 05 Jan 1993 09:43:59 -0600
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

Many thanks to all who responded to this problem. Setting the CGA/EGA
auto-sensing feature to OFF took care of the problem.

---

TC Henry
Vanderbilt University Computer Center
Nashville, TN
From: jasper@vax.path.ox.ac.uk
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Re: Need Customer Feedback!
Date: 12 Jan 93 11:57:06 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Molecular Biology Data Centre
Nntp-Posting-User: jasper

In article <1993Jan7.045820.23005@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>, wasser@ranger.enet.dec.com (ranger::wasser) writes:
>> I have an IBM 9515 XGA [display adapter].  I'm trying to set it up to 
>> use [PC] DECwindows [Motif] at the full screen capacity of my monitor 
>> (1024x768, 256 colors).  
> 
> 	Unfortunately DEC ran out of money before we could
> 	ship this feature.  

Ran out of money...?? or decided that people didn't want to run 
DECWindows/Motif on nice big color screens? 

>	If enough people contact the
> 	PATHWORKS for DOS Product Manager (Anita Uhler, 
> 	uhler@ranger.enet.dec.com) asking for XGA support 
> 	in PC DECwindows Motif then there is a chance that 
> 	the feature will find funding for a future release.
> 
> 	Unfortunately is is hard to justify adding features
> 	to PC DECwindows Motif when we give it away free
> 	with PATHWORKS for DOS.  With no feedback in the
> 	form of sales figures we can't tell if the expense
> 	is justified.  Customer feedback is our only hope.

The way you are sounding one would almost think that someone higher up doesn't 
understand the need for X interfaces through PC's and Mac's and everything 
else.

What is their problem???   

> 
> 			-John A. Wasser
> 			 Project Leader (and only remaining engineer)
> 			 PC DECwindows Motif

Does this imply that this is a product area that is being reduced ?!!


regards,   jasper

Jasper Rees
Oxford University Molecular Biology Data Centre

jasper@molbiol.ox.ac.uk
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: How to crash Mac system 7 with PW/Mac 1.1
From: bachism <BACHISM@JHUDEV.DEV.JHU.EDU>
Date: 12 Jan 1993 12:43:38 -0500
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"LANWORKS@MIAMIU.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU"

I have a virus software that loads from my startup folder and I quit it all of
the time and my system does not crash -- PW/MAC 1.1 Systems 7.0.1 with Tune up
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: houseman@Turing.ORG (Carl Houseman)
Subject: Re: REMOTE Boot any other way ?
Organization: The Turing Project, Public Access Internet Host
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:50:17 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.154443.27061@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> Chris McNeil <cmcneil@mta.ca> writes:
>Is it possible to remote boot pathworks 4.1 for Dos using anything
>other than DEC's method. For example could I use bootp and have the boot
>image on my bootp server ? Is anyone doing this ?

In a nutshell?  No.  Remote boot is only implemented using the DECnet MOP
protocol.  Both the ROM boot code and the Floppy-remote-boot code issue MOP
download requests.  It's possible to have something else besides a VAX/VMS
system answer MOP requests (I believe DEC has software for PCs that
downloads terminal servers).  But you need a VMS host to provide the LAD
disks that are also required by remote boot.

>Chris McNeil
>cmcneil@mta.ca

Carl Houseman
GENICOM Engineering
houseman@turing.org (e-mail address good through 1/8, not sure after that!)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Re: Digital answer to VMS pthwks print problem.
From: burrows@brons.enet.dec.com (Jim Burrows)
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:41:36 GMT
Reply-To: burrows@brons.enet.dec.com (Jim Burrows)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Littleton, MA


In article <1993Jan5.121438.569@hhcs.gov.au>, makinc@hhcs.gov.au (Carl Makin)
writes:

|>Well I finally got an answer back from Digital Service regarding
|>the problem of not being able to print to LTA or TTA devices from
|>Pathworks for VMS (Macintosh) created queues if the device is
|>spooled.
|>
|>This is a feature.
|>
|>Yep, that was the answer.  This is a FEATURE!  CRAP!  I was told
|>to raise a SPR if I wanted the action changed.  The engineer who
|>answered the Digital Service person's internal query stated that
|>he couldn't see any advantage to having devices spooled and that
|>there were several disadvantages including extra overhead, no
|>access to the spooled file etc.  Yeah right, it would be nice if
|>this "feature" was noted in the documentation.
|>
|>Great guys.  I'm really impressed with THIS level of service. :-(
|>
|>Carl
|>the extremely annoyed.

Hi. I'm the Macintosh Technical Lead in the PATHWORKS group, and I
can understand your annoyance. I'm a bit perplexed as to who the
"Service person" talked to. The engineer who owns that code and I
were talking about this very problem over lunch and neither of us
would call this a feature. It's either a restriction that should be
lifted in some future release or a bug that we should fix as soon
as we ar able.

Anyway, we are actively working on the problem. I can't commit to
a fix by a certain time or in a certain release yet, but we agree
with you that there should be a fix for this.

As to the response you got, I'm sorry.

JimB.
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From: karcher@jevex.waisman.wisc.edu
Subject: RE: Binary attachments in Mail
Organization: Waisman Center, University of Wisconsin-Madison
Date: 7 JAN 93 22:30:11 CST

In a previous article, houseman@Turing.ORG" wrote:
>Does anyone know of or have a tool that will reconstruct a binary attachment
>as encoded by Pathworks 4.x Mail?  I need to be able to decode the mail
>messages under DOS, Unix, and VMS (hmmm, sounds like a simple C-program).

The format is UUENCODED. You should be able to use a UUDECODE program to decode
it. They are available for all the platforms you mention.


Carl Karcher                          Internet: KARCHER@WAISMAN.WISC.EDU
Waisman Center                        Bitnet:   KARCHER@WISCMACC
University of Wisconsin-Madison       PSTnet:   (608) 263-5896
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Subject: RE: Zenith 286 & PATHWORKS
From: "Kevin L. Davidson" <DAVIDSON@ADMIN.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU>
Date: 04 Jan 1993 08:31:00 -0500 (EST)
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> The result of all of these configurations is the same. Upon executing DLLNDIS
> the keyboard is disabled. If I issue STARTNET.BAT the entire file will execute
> but that's it. If STARTNET.BAT is issued from AUTOEXEC.BAT it will execute
> STARTNET.BAT but will not return to the calling file.

What video card are you using?  Toggling switch 5 (I think) on the Zenith "449"
card could be a solution.

Kevin L. Davidson                    Administrative Computing Services
Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech.           EMail:  KEVIN.DAVIDSON@Rose-Hulman.EDU
5500 Wabash Avenue                   Phone:  (812)877-8294
Terre Haute, IN  47803               FAX:    (812)877-3198
From: EVANS@CRDH.CONCORDIA.CA
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: PW/Mac 1.1 and System 7.1
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:03:00 GMT
X-Organization: Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec
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> >>Anything referencing DECNET crashes Systems 7.1<<
>
> I am waiting on a IIvx which comes with 7.1 installed.  Can you give more
> details on the problems that you have been having?  Thanks.

I will also soon be receiving a couple of IIvx's. Does Apple know about
this? Is their a fix in the works? Any more info would be greatly
appreciated.

Stephen Evans, System Manager
Centre for Research in Human Development
Concordia University
Montreal, Quebec, Canada.
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: osyjm@cs.montana.edu (Jaye Mathisen)
Subject: Re: Is there a 'Maximum # of files' limitation on a virtual disk??
Organization: CS
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:37:03 GMT

In article <01GT133IDFQAA4L849@Meena.CC.URegina.CA> MAHENDRA@MEENA.CC.UREGINA.CA (A. Mahendra Rajah, System Manager) writes:
>Hello:
>
>    Does anybody know if there is an upper limit on how many files one can
>    store in any directory on a virtual disk? We are trying to do the
>    following:
>
>    1.    All Win31 files are on a file service (say) W:
>    2.    Create a 64MB disk service on the server - call it H:
>    3.    Connect to both W: and H: from a PC.
>    4.    XCopy or just plain copy all files from W: to H:
>
>    Step 4 fails after copying 511 files and cmplains "cannot make a
>    directory entry" for any more files.

Isn't that the limit on the number of directory entries that can be in
the root (\) of the disk?
-- 
 Jaye Mathisen, COE Systems Manager                (406) 994-4780
 410 Roberts Hall,Dept. of Computer Science
 Montana State University,Bozeman MT 59717	osyjm@cs.montana.edu
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: VT320 DBL-HIGH DBL-WIDE Display Problems
From: "Peter Dunn, Telecomm" <DUNNP@AHECAS.COLORADO.EDU>
Date: 08 Jan 1993 14:51:18 -0700
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

When running the Windows version of VT320, the double high/double wide
text shows up as repeated line in double-wide, and the following lines
have intermittent tabs (or maybe spaces) inserted.  While not inhibiting
its use, it IS ugly.

Anyone have any ideas, clues, or suggestions?
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: dbk@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (Don Katz)
Subject: Re: Compatibility of pathworks copy and kermit transfer
Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, University of Wisconsin
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 16:07:44 GMT

In article <9301120000.AA21020@gpo.nsc.com> "JEFFERY CHEW NSEP-CIM, TEL:604-837211 EX 268, FAX604-833894"<vccmep%epmv50.dnet@GPO.NSC.COM> writes:
>Hi all:
>
>Sometime ago I posted a porblem with regards to binary file transfer.  Well
>I was instructed to look into the c-kermit, which I did...thanks to all
>that responded.
>
>The diagram below will explain more:
>
>                        pathworks(copy)
>                PC --------------------> VAX     OK
>
>          pathworks(copy)                         C-Kermit
>    VAX ------------------->PC  OK     VAX ------------------->PC  problem
>
>
>
>                        C-Kermit
>                PC -----------------------> VAX  OK
>
>          pathworks(copy)                         C-Kermit
>    VAX ------------------->PC  OK     VAX ------------------->PC  OK
>
>

I assume that when you say VAX, you mean a file service on the VAX. If
that is the case, try modifying the file service to use fixed length
records, using the command

PCSA> set file serv/attributes=sequential_fixed service_name

and see if that solves the problem. The default is to create the files
as stream files with carriage return carriage control, and if there is
no carriage return for 32000+ bytes, a normal read of the file from
the VAX will fail due to record length limitations.

Don


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Subject: RE: Notification of All-in-1 Mail
From: ES12453@SWTEXAS.BITNET
Date: 08 Jan 1993 11:11:00 -0600 (CST)
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X-Original-To:  pathworksng, ES12453

      I have received some responses so far and thanks to all that have
   responded.  However, I think that I did not describe my problem correctly
   earlier so I would like to try again.

   We are running All-in-1 IOS V2.4 in a VAX Cluster that is also running
   Pathworks V4.1-1.  We have Pathworks users who are also All-in-1
   subscribers and they read and respond to their mail from their PC using a
   terminal emulator and actually logging into the VAX and running All-in-1.
   We also run an idle terminal killer so users cannot have an idle session
   for over an hour.

   Since we run the idle terminal killer I would like to have the
   subscribers who have PCs to be notified when they have All-in-1 mail
   without having to log onto the VAX to check if they have mail.  Our
   Pathworks users do already load the RCV, and I have used WINRCV for
   windows also.  What I need is something, either a detached process or a
   batch job, that possibly could check the All-in-1 pending file and if a
   subscriber is a Pathworks user use the PCSA Broadcast Utility to notify
   them. Or, does anyone else have another idea that works?

   We have over 150 Pathworks clients and each one is an All-in-1 subscriber
   and sometimes their mail doesn't get read because they don't login to the
   VAX and our Pending file gets large.

   Thanks again!

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