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From: mlvanbie@laplace.uwaterloo.ca (Michael Van Biesbrouck)
Subject: Locutus entymology
Followup-To: mlvanbie@descartes.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:52:53 GMT

Does anyone have the origins of the name Locutus?  I was reading through a mook on Gaulish names and discovered 'Locut-' meaning 'mouse'.  Virtually all written versions of Gaulish names are written in Latin and Greek, thus the '-us'.  Since Picard comes from France and apparently has a good base in many languages, this would seem to be a valid origin for the name.

-mvb
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From: jgasaway@ncsa.uiuc.edu (James Gasaway)
Subject: Re: No Dread in Scotty Episode (No Spoiler)
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: NCSA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:38:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.155219.6882@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, W.O. Khan
<Charles_Laine@CCIS.BAYLOR.EDU> wrote:
> 
> I'm already hearing the murmurings and usual complaints about 'Relics',
> so here is my two cents....
> 
> 
> EXCELLENT EPISODE.
> 
> So put a sock in it, all you whining complainers (who will probably vote
> for Bill Clinton).

I'm going to vote for Clinton, and I also thought this episode was
EXCELLENT!

James
jgasaway@ncsa.uiuc.edu
Univ. of Illinois @ Urbana-Champaign
From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Relics...no spoilers
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:53:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: ichips.1992Oct13.175321.20285
Organization: Intel Corporation
Originator: smintz@alamo


I wonder if scotty is going to visit McCoy, and mention, that it is too bad about
his aversion to transports...look what it did for him...
Stephen
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From: crdunlea@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Christopher R. Dunlea)
Subject: Re: Troi's Rank (was Re: "Yes, Ma'am."...)
Organization: Syracuse University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 05:39:56 EDT

In another episode, when the Enterprise was damaged without power,
and Picard was trapped with some kids in a turbolift, Troi assumed
command on the bridge because, as O'Brien pointed out to her an   
Ensign Ro, Troi had the rank of Lt. Commander. 

Chris
From: patmcg@home.merit.edu (Pat McGregor)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: "Yes, Ma'am." (was: Re: *Spoiler* Comments on "Man of the People")
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:22:11 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
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thogek@cco.caltech.edu (Thomas G. Kiefer) writes:


>I don't know if this was important or not, but Ensign W&A addressing Troi
>as "Ma'am" struck me as weird.  I thought all people -- male and female
>-- in the times of Star Trek were addressed uniformly as "Sir".  Or is
>that just for officers in Star Fleet?  (And would Troi be considered an
>"officer" on this necessarily, being, as someone pointed out that she
>should be, outside the chain of command?)

The ensign was probably confused, having just been forcibly reminded
of her gender and surprised by Riker's arrival. Give him a break. ;-)
 
Pat McGregor
From: s892024@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Richard A. Muirden [GA])
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: pad is sexy and nude!
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:17:55 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
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Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:

>At the moment I don't have a specific Trek novel in the works, although
>two are in the discussion stages:  One would be a Deep Space Nine novel
>(since Pocket is starting a line of those) and the other is a novel
>focusing on Captain Sulu of the Excelsior.

GO PaD  !!!!!!!!!!!!!! yes! go with Sulu (if they let you!)


>PAD
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From: fraser@cisco.com (Sean Fraser)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: What did Picard say?
Date: 14 Oct 1992 02:29:29 GMT
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In article <1687ADC93.M17257@mwvm.mitre.org>, M17257@mwvm.mitre.org writes:
|> In article <1992Oct6.172401.9035@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com>
|> sabat@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com writes:
|>  
|> >Does anyone know what Picard says at the end of the episode (I think "The
|> >Enemy") where Geordie and a Romulan are stranded on a planet and learn to
|> >help each other barely making it back to the Enterprise at the end when the
|> >big E and a Romulan warbird are about to blast each other.  It is something
|> >like "______manship is a dangerous game."  We have rewatched it several times
|> >and cannot figure it out.  Thanks
|>  
|> Could it have been "One-up-man-ship?"


To answer your question, 
			I believe he said "Penmanship is a dangerous game".  At least that's what it sounded like.
From: ccspjs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Pete J Suters)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Question about Crusher's Uniform...
Date: 9 Oct 92 09:34:29 GMT
Organization: Bath University Computing Services, UK

In the referenced article, marcogan@student.anu.edu.au (Mark Cogan) writes:
>This might be a FAQ, but...
>
>Why does Wil Wheaton (Ensign Crusher) always wear those high collars on his
>uniforms? When he wasn't with Starfleet he always had on psuedo-turtleneck
>sweaters, and now that he's wearing a uniform, he still has the collar on
>them all. Anyone out there know the reason?

It's to cover up any embarrassing hickies on his neck ... no, hang
on - this is Wesley Crusher we're talking about here ... um ...
it's to make everyone think he's got some embarrassing hickies
which he needs to cover up!
  Dig those turtlenecks, Wesley! 

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From: tucker@smsc.sony.com (Tim Tucker 817)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Dyson Sphere's (***SPOILERS***)
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:22:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: smsc.1992Oct15.212247.7609
Organization: Sony Microsystems Corp.


In article <ewright.719171798@convex.convex.com>, ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
|> In <6#qpypf@lynx.unm.edu> follick@jemez.eece.unm.edu (Jeremy Follick) writes:
|> 
|> >If you have a 
|> >galaxy of 100 billion stars, and you average one Earth size inhabitable
|> >planet for each hundred stars (seems reasonable IMHO) then this Dyson
|> >Sphere represents more than half of all the inhabitable surface area
|> >in the galaxy. 
|> 
|> *If* it's the only one.
|> 

The discovery of this Dyson sphere and the way it was handled really
bothered me.  THIS WOULD BE THE DISCOVERY OF THE MILLENIUM!  Instead,
at the end of the show the Enterprise just flies off knowing no more
than they started.  Are they explores or what?!?!?

Sorry, I could help it.  :-)

Tim
tucker@smsc.sony.com
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From: iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy)
Subject: Transporters :Great Plot Device but Bogus "Technology"
Date: 07 Oct 92 03:55:31 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <910252m.9.718330048@ace.acadiau.ca> 910252m@ace.acadiau.ca (DWAYNE ALLAN MACKINNON) writes:
>Netters,
>    Didn't someone say that a person's perceptions are incredibly distorted 
>in the matter stream?? I think it might have been Riker.....

I thought the whole "seeing while in transport" was stupid to begin with. 
How do your eyes function when you've been blasted into your sub-atomic
componets and are being held in what amounts to a big magnetic bottle?
Why did the crew look like big space worms?

Now that I think about it, the whole transporter thing while being a
great plot device seems really bogus. I mean, according to the tech manual
you are taken apart into your subatomic parts, then this stream of particles
is fired to the destination where they are re-assembled. You are not
converted into engery at all, just ripped apart and sent off to 
your destination.

Another question: If the transporter requires all that complex backup
hardware and the transport platform, how does it work on a remote site?
How does it put you back together at the remote site you are going to?

I would rather they had a device that created a warp in the 
"fabric of space-time" and allowed a door to be created to your
destination. I believe there was an episode where a device like
this existed, the one when the computer virus destroys the Yamato. At
leat then they wouldn't have to take you apart and put you together.

Finally, did you ever wonder of they could have put Humpty-Dumpty
back together again if they had his pattern and a transporter? :)
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From: ph111-bx@violet.berkeley.edu (;;;;7202)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Data+Riker+Troi = Spock
Date: 12 Oct 1992 05:34:54 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In article <1992Oct11.235528.7077@nmsu.edu> ssubrama@dante.nmsu.edu
(SUBRAMANIAM) writes:
>What is M5.

Richard Daystrom's computer in the TOS episode, "The Ultimate Computer."
From: gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Relics (no spoilers)
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:54:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct12.205409.26244
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Oct12.173710.27478@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> hades@Dartmouth.Edu writes:
>rotheroe@convex.com (Dave Rotheroe) writes:
>>Relics was well done - I especially liked the holodeck scenes.
>>This show could, and probably should, have been two episodes.  There was

	Which means they probably did right by keeping it one.


-- 
Roger Tang, gwangung@u.washington.edu
Producer Emeritus, Asian Theatre at the UW
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From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: questions on Yar, Pulaski
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 23:02:21 GMT


Couple of chronology ?'s:

What season did Tash die? how far along?

What season did Pulaski replace Crusher? Two?

What season did Guinan appear?

and did Guinana and Pulaski come in at the beginning of the season or what?

when did Bev come back? When did Wes go away?

any enlightenment appreciated. thanks.
i'm interested in not only what season but when in the
seasons these things happened. why? because i don't 
have enough to do! :-)

Bill
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From: d_ellis@ricks.enet.dec.com (David Ellis  13-Oct-1992 0858)
Subject: Re: O'Brien's Rank [THE FINAL ANSWER]
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 05:59:55 PDT
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dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams) asked when and where Eric Stillwell,
the Pre-production Associate and keeper of continuity for ST:TNG seasons
three through five, went on record as saying O'Brien was a noncom rather 
than a Lt.

I did not hear this in person.  Rather, it was from a mail message that I
no longer have, where the sender quoted Stillwell at a Creation convention.
(I am most impressed with Dean's "Cretin con" appellation for that schlock
outfit!)

As I said previously, my opinion on the matter has been that O'Brien is
a Lt, not a noncom.  Sergey Rozhenko's line from "Family" didn't sway me, but 
apparently it did influence The Powers That Be.  Stillwell's statement, as 
quoted to me, together with this season's adjustment to his uniform pips, 
have taken the wind out of my sails.  Unhappily, I yield to the (il)logic of 
the situation.

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From: irwin@juliet.caltech.edu (Horowitz, Irwin Kenneth)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: *Spoiler* Comments on "Relics"
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:30:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: juliet.15OCT199208300426
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In article <1992Oct15.003129.10781@eng.umd.edu>, wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez) writes...
>*Spoilers*
> 

>- "Relics" managed to make numerous mentions of the original series 
>w/out being too obvious or wallowing in nostalgia.  Not being as well-
>versed in TOS plots and details as I am TNG ones, I'm wondering if 
>someone could provide a breakdown of where (and which episodes) the events
>occured that Scotty mentions.  It would be much appreciated.  
> 
I'll try, Jose...

First, there was a reference to the episode "Elaan of Troyus" (about the
whining and complaining about her quarters), then "Wolf in the Fold" (about
his troubles the first time he went to Argelius) and then there was "The
Naked Time" (about doing the cold start on the engines).  Of course, the
scene with Data (...it's green :-), can be construed as an off-hand reference
to a scene from "By Any Other Name," when Scotty got the Kelvin drunk (which
is still among the funniest scenes they ever did in TOS :-).
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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Saturday Night Review "Man of the People" sorry I'm late
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:05:32 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: University of Virginia

It's now Monday afternoon, so this is a little late, and it will be
a little short as well.

SPOILERS!









I don't have as hostile an opinion on "Man of the Peopel" as a lot of
you seem to have.  Again, I think this net just can't wait to hate an
episode and then write about it on the net.
I think "Man of the People" is just about average.

There are many of you who do not like it for its lifting of plot from
"the Portrait of Dorian Grey."  I don't mind this myself, since I
hadn't ever heard of the thing before now, and I've even done a random
sample of friends around me wondering if they had heard of the reference
before, and they said they hadn't either.

The episode engaged me as it took me until halfway through to figure out
what was going on, and just after that the crew figured it out and
got moving on the solution, so I think the pacing and plot complications
were done correctly for once.

The directing also impressed me.  AT LAST a director who wasn't afraid to
actually move the camera around in the middle of a scene, and I think
these unusual shots helped to emphasize the dark tone of the story.  
Seeing Troi slowly turn into the witch hag was fascinating for me, a
favorite scene being when she tells that one Ensign, "This isn't Starfleet
Academy, we're not going to hold your hand here.  Now shape up or ship
out."  so unlike Troi that we know something's going on and it isn't
healthy.  (It's also neat to see her fulfilling every therapists's secret
dream in this scene, i.e. yell at the patient)

The Ambassador was also neatly played, IMHO, as were his staff.  

For those of you who think Marina Sirtis cannot act, try it yourselves
sometime, and then watch either this or "The Loss" and THEN try to say
the same again now that you have an INFORMED opinion to do it with.

I like Sirtis and I like Trois' character, no matter what a few hundred
people bent over their computer screens try to tell me.

Grade for Man of the People: scale of 1 to 10: 6.5

Steve/Iain
From: oppedahl@panix.com (Carl Oppedahl)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: No star dates?  Function of various trek groups?
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:24:22 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

Two questions for those who have participated in these newsgroups longer
than I ... who have been following the groups for only a month or so ...
 
1.  Is there a good reason why I never see star dates quoted in 
synopses and the like?  Does anyone maintain cross-indexes between 
star dates, program titles, and first-show dates?
 
2.  Is there a posting somewhere defining the subject matter appropriate
to the various Star-trek-related groups?  (For all I know I have posted
this to the wrong group, for example?)
From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Admiral Hansen is Judge on "Law and Order"
Date: 15 Oct 92 07:18:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Oct15.001859.4635
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


Hmmm, since this has not been posted yet, I was watching "Law and Order"
about the defective Pace Makers, and none other than the actor who played
"Admiral Hansen" in "Best of Both Worlds" appeared in a brief cameo as a NY
Judge....

Let's see, so far we have had a dead admiral and dead vulcan as lawyers,
and a holodeck babe as a shrink....hmmmm....

Dave
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From: cscf0022@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Cost of Living
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:40:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: ac.1992Oct15.124024.8170
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Can someone post a synopsis of 'Cost of Living'? It's hard to keep track
of some threads when I've forgotten what the episode was about!
     Thanks in advance.
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From: mfh@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (mitchell.hansinger)
Subject: Re: nudity on trek
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:42:45 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.112231.29722@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> amcmicha@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Andrew McMichael) writes:
>Now that the show "Civil Wars" has seen fit to go with a parental
>warning and show us the greater portion of on of their female
>character's breasts, how soon till :TNG follows suit?  I mean,
>if Marial Hemmingway [sp?] can stoop to prime time nakedness,
>resident 'boob-queen' Marina Sirtis can be capable of no less? Or
>perhaps some aliens who don't wear shirts?  Ratings week must
>be coming up soon and we all know that everybody [trek included]
>will do anything to get high ratings.  Any bets?

Andrew,
What is this show Civil Wars?  When is it on?  What stations carry it?  I find 
it difficult to believe that a non-cable channel would show nudity during
prime time.  Please post with any further info you can.

Thanks,

-Mitchel

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From: mcohen@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: ""Trek"" history made in ""Realm of Fear"" (**SPOILERS**)
Organization: Clark University
Date: 10 OCT 92 00:09:05 GMT

In a previous article, rfd@po.CWRU.Edu (Richard F. Drushel) wrote:
> 
>Spoiler for "Realm of Fear".
>
>Avast there, ye swabs...
>
>	"Realm of Fear" provided the first instance in all of "Star
>Trek" of a first-person view of the Transporter--i.e. what *YOU*
>would see if you were transported.
> 
>	I'm certain there was one shot somewhere in TOS where we
>were given a POV shot from the pads, but *NOT* during dematerialization.
>Anybody recall the episode?
> 
>	Now we need a first-person view of a phaser blast :)
>-- 
Yeah, I was pretty happy about the reverse transporter effect!  The first 
serious info I heard about TNG was at BosKone in February '86.  David Gerrold 
was the speaker (he wrote Trouble with Tribbles and had some to-do in creating 
TNG).  He said they planned on showing this reverse transporter effect, and 
I've been waiting six years for it!  

I'm not sure if they did it technically correct, but it was still cool.


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From: edwardl@freddyk.uucp (Edward Langenback)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: pad is sexy and nude!
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 15:21:07 CDT
Organization: NightMares R Us

jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) writes:

> ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
> 
> >In article <67634@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
> >>At the moment I don't have a specific Trek novel in the works, although
> 
> >Do the DS9 novel.  Probably more potential as you will already know
> 
> You don't think PAD can write new characters???
> Try reading Siderman^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HSpiderman 2099. It has an *entire*
> *cast* of *new* *characters*!
> 
****Spiderman 2099****?!?!?  do you happen to mean the Marvel Comics 
character (or more likely a decendant i guess)
 
one question?  Where to get it?


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From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
Subject: Transporters...suicide?
Originator: smintz@alamo
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:33:32 GMT


BTW in the last TNG, we were shown what is like from the view of the person being
transported so the death by transporter argument is over....your conscience
stays intact during the whole process...
Stephen
From: dianetti@acsu.buffalo.edu (Donald J. Dianetti)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Marina Sirtis on QVC
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:40:51 GMT
Organization: UB

Some tidbits from Marina Sirtis given during her appearance on the
shopping channel:




1)  They just finished shooting "A Fistful of Datas" - directed
    by Patrick Stewart.  They showed a scene being filmed and Troi
    had the line of dialogue "What about Alexander?".  Ugh.  He's in
    the episode, apparently.  She and Worf were in Old West (tm) outfits.

2)  Apparently the dispute with the Conan-Doyle estate has been settled:
    Marina said they were going to do another Sherlock Holmes episode.

FUEL FOR THE O'BRIENS RANK FIRE:

    They were selling Star Trek trading cards (or something) and they
    zoomed in on one that had a picture of O'Brien on it.  The caption
    on the card read "Lieutenant Miles O'Brien".

That's all.
-- 
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