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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:09:38 -0600
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: ATT Starlan

>Consultants are proposing to install a multiple city system using the
>AT&T Starlan and StarMail software. I tought this package was an antique,
>non functional and useless.
>
>What do people think?
>
>    Paul        Faculty of Administration    Phone: 613-564-6895/6500
>Massue-Monat    University of Ottawa           Fax: 613-564-6518
>  Lab Mgr.      Canada K1N 6N5     Internet: monat@acadvm1.uottawa.ca
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        Ok, an honest (+/-) opinion. StarGROUP, as it is now known, is based
on Lan Manager and AT&T/NCR has fed back serious improvments to Microsoft. It
does work, and can work very quickly indeed. The user side shell material
is much larger than NetWare's, but some status is held on the user side so
much networking activity is not interrupted by downing the server and bringing
it back up again; not everything survives this however. The user interface
is the awkward \\name.serve\service syntax. Management of the server side
bears little resemblence to the super job Novell has done. The users see
things similarly to NetWare (i.e., the server is a new drive letter), but
printing tends to be less sophisticated (== Unix style). Users can also log
into the Unix side of the house, plus see their Unix directories under DOS.
NetWare access privileges are more sophisticated than those in Lan Man.
Experience with Unix to manage the net is highly recommended.
        Traditionally AT&T has supported their programs only when run on
their hardware (and you have to give h/w serial numbers over the phone before
anything else). Things have improved some, but I have not called Tech Support
in a couple of years.
        Of the two NetWare is much more polished and flexible.
        Both companies ought not put upper case letters in the middle of
their product names, sigh.
        What you ought to be doing: run examples of both networks and live
with them for a few days each, at the minimum.
        Where I'm coming from: I run a sizable student lab with both NW and
StarGROUP (different colored boot floppies, "the user is always right"). I run
StarGROUP on my own Unix machine (DELL's SVR4.04), and I have some association
with the outfit selling StarGROUP (disclaimer time, I'm in the manuals). I also
run NetWare systems, and at the moment my PC is a client on both.
        Joe D.
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From: fpiwarsk@europa.union.indiana.edu
Subject: telos --consulting firm
Keywords: computer
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 03:02:07 GMT


Request for information: Pro/Con

Has anyone had experience with a computer consulting firm called TELOS.
They are a Sacramento Calif.firm that, I believe, specializes in LAN/WAN
design.

Please reply to me directly.

Frank
fpiwarsk@europa.union.indiana.edu

Thank you in advance.
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From:         Ron Neely <SURGRON@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      Remote boot disable

>Hi all!

>Can anyone help with the following problem?

>We run several file servers and want to limit the number of servers holding
>remote boot images for our labs.

>Does anyone know of a way to turn off/disable the processing of a remote boot
>request at the file server?

>Is there any other way of doing it, besides hiding diskless PCs behind the
>server holding the required remote boot image.


One effective solution is to use the LANworks MSD (Multi-Server Director) NLM
in conjunction with their brand of boot PROM's.  The MSD package includes
extensions to the Novell BOOTCONF.SYS which inform a remotely booting work-
station not only what image to load, but also what server to find it on.
LANworks can be reached at (416) 238-5528, or via snailmail at:
Lanworks Technology Inc.
3218 Wharton Way
Mississaugua, Ontario
CANADA L4X 2C1
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 07:55:42 CDT
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From:         Ron Neely <SURGRON@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: multiple servers

>In bit.listserv.novell you write:

>>What is the "best"way of implementing multiple servers?  I have about 400 user
>>who want to use the same apps.  Is it better to duplicate apps on each server
>>or have everyone attach to one server.  This seems like it would get a bit hai
   y
>>trying to keep accounts straight (which server gets the users home account).
>>A related question is Can redundancy be built into the two servers so if one
                           ^^^^^^^^^^
>>goes down the other will be able to provide some or all services.

>I am very interested in finding more out about redundancy in servers, also.
>Could you please forward information you receive to me??  Thanks in advance!!

We have for several years used a product called LANShadow from Netwave Inc. in
NYC (212 242-3200).  To quote from the manual: "LANShadow allows you to create,
during network operation, a copy of data on a network server.  LANShadow can
be configured to copy entire servers, volumes, or specific sub-directory trees.
Depending on the resources available, entire network servers, volumes and
critical data areas can be duplicated.  If an entire server is being shadowed
and it fails, the up-to-date 'shadow server' is ready to take its place immed-
iately."

The product works as advertised.  Not surprisingly, it's quite a bandwidth hog,
but this can be mitigated to some extent depending on how you set it up.
Before we went to disk duplexing on all our servers, we used it full time.
Once, it probably saved my job!  Now I use it primarily for setting up new
servers, a purpose for which it is ideally suited.  Recommended.

Ron Neely, Network Mgr.
University of Missouri
Department of Surgery
Columbia, MO 65212
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:49:49 GMT
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From:         YUSUF <YUSUF@EMUNIVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      HOTLOOK-LANSCHOOL

HI EVERYBODY.
I Could not find the HOTLOOK or LANSCHOOL program that views the screen of
another workstation to my machine.How can I get it ?
 thanks in advance
  YUSUF KUCUK
EASTERN MEDITERRANEAN UNIVERSITY
 CYPRUS
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From:         "Paul Massue-Monat" <MONAT@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA>
Subject:      ATT Starlan

Consultants are proposing to install a multiple city system using the
AT&T Starlan and StarMail software. I tought this package was an antique,
non functional and useless.

What do people think?

    Paul        Faculty of Administration    Phone: 613-564-6895/6500
Massue-Monat    University of Ottawa           Fax: 613-564-6518
  Lab Mgr.      Canada K1N 6N5     Internet: monat@acadvm1.uottawa.ca
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:08:00 +0000
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              <@emvax1:Nikolaj_Brink_Olsen@ccmainz.mainz.dk>
From:         Nikolaj_Brink_Olsen@CCMAINZ.MAINZ.DK
Subject:      RE: Unix to Novell Communication

We are running a Netware 386 (3.11 100 user [ETHERNET_802.3] ).
We have a Unix-base, Sun work-station running an Oracle application.
How can we connect this Unix-base work-station to novell so all users can
access the Oracle application from within Novell? What software and
hardware are required so that users on the Novell network can access the
oracle base application? We understand that NFS and Telnet might do the
trick.

Any suggestions or ideas will be appreciated



Try Lanworkplace for dos.

Nikolaj Brink Olsen
erik mainz a/s
Denmark

Internet NBo@mainz.dk
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From:         Brad Clements <BKC@DRACO.ERC.CLARKSON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Internet Services
X-To:         "(Dave Kearns)" <DKEARNS.TCC%KLAVEN.TCI.COM@clvm.clarkson.edu>,
              NOVELL%SUVM.BITNET@clvm.clarkson.edu

Everyone knows by now that Compuserve prohibits the placement of
3rd party stuff from compuserve on ftp servers.

But I think the request is for a place for 3rd party stuff on the Novell
FTP servers which 3rd parties can store to without going through
compuserve.


|Brad Clements, CCP        bkc@draco.erc.clarkson.edu      (315)268-2292
|Sr. Network Engineer      Clarkson University             Potsdam, NY USA
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From:         Brad Clements <BKC@DRACO.ERC.CLARKSON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: releasing plots every hour

> I am not sure how to do this, but you might look into Charon 4.0 to
> do this for you.  I thought that Charon 4.0 can move things between
> Novell queues(not just from Novell to remote IP printing and vice-
> versa).  What you could do is have Charon move the plots from one
> queue to another, but set the Poll time to 3600 seconds(One hour).
> The second queue would be attached to the printer.


> Also to make sure
> that no-one prints to that other queue directly, make sure none of
> the users can are Queue users of the actual printing queue, execpt
> Charon.

This second part won't quite work because Charon knows that the jobs
are coming from and to the same server, so it changes to client rights
first before creating the job in the second queue. Maybe a filter
could get around this though... not sure.



|Brad Clements, CCP        bkc@draco.erc.clarkson.edu      (315)268-2292
|Sr. Network Engineer      Clarkson University             Potsdam, NY USA
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From:         Jon Hall <J.M.Hall@SOUTHAMPTON.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Novell SPX protocol (and Netbios)

> >
> > Also, is Novell's Netbios built on top of SPX?
> yes, and it doesn't rely on the server being there as it doesn't use
> the service advertising protocol (SAP)

I thought Novell's Netbios was build on top of IPX, not SPX. At least,
it works OK for me if you load IPXODI with the A switch, which is
supposed not to load SPX.

Just curious...

--
Jon Hall                                  | Tel:      +44 (0)703 592274
Senior Programmer                         | Fax:      +44 (0)703 593033
Institute of Sound and Vibration Research | JANET:    J.M.Hall@uk.ac.soton
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              cindyc@MILTON.U.WASHINGTON.EDU
From:         Cindy Carter <cindyc@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pburst - dream or reality
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	I tried it at my site and it didn't help significantly.

	Cindy Carter
	LAN Manager, Dean of Medicine Office
	University of Washington


On Tue, 25 Aug 1992, Anthony Olejnik wrote:

> Will PBURST improve the throughput of an IP tunnel?
>
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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1992 12:47:51 CST
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From:         Network Support <cvanov2@CCMAIL.BAMANET.UA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Saber Menu
X-To:         VUSTEVE@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL, NOVELL@SUVM.SYR.EDU

>The question is whether this is not a good time to implement Saber Menu for
>Windows - especially the new version 2.0 which Saber is offering.  The one
>component that I would be interested in is its "INIMAN" which promises to
>provide network control and management of users' INI files and allows users
>to have their settings wherever they log in.

>Does anyone have any good or bad experiences with INIMAN?  Any war stories?


We use INIMAN a lot and it is great. It allows dynamic configuration of all
.ini files, which saves us a lot of time and head aches. I have not tried the
2.0 for Windows Menu because 1.0 was a DOG and we now use Windows Work Station
for Menus.

Chris Vanover, CNE
The University of Alabama
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From:         villas@IBASE.BR
Subject:      Monitoring Tools

Hi Everybody,

   Well, the big lans out there certainly use some kind of monitoring
   tools, right? I'm having problems here in my site (NW311) in one of my
   servers. It keeps disconnecting stations, once in a while, with
   "watchdogs". I guess it's cabling or some network card, but I don't have
   here any monitoring tool.

   a) Do you know were I can ftp some public domain software to help me?

   b) Do you recomend any software package for network (LAN)
   troubleshooting?

Thanks in advance,
Villas.

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Marcos Villas                                       Internet: villas@ibase.br
Instituto Brasileiro de Analises Sociais e Economicas, Rio de Janeiro, Brasil
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 08:45:00 GMT
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From:         NANU CALMANOVITZ <NANU@ILCTEHOL.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Acad printing to the network

Shalom!

Few month ago, when we installed our ACAD11 software, there was a problem with
th remote plotter connected to COM2:.

We resolved it by adding to the SYSTEM LOGIN SCRIPT, the command:

           #MODE COM2:30,E,7,2

WHERE COM2:30,E,7,2  was same as the configuration of the remmote com2: in
the PCONSOLE utility.

I wish this may help you resolving the problem.

Nanu Calmanovitz
Computer Dep.
Technological Education Center
Holon, ISRAEl
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From:         Rick Wagner <WAGNER@MAIN.MNDLY.UMN.EDU>
Subject:      Novell C Libraries

Until recently we have been using Microsoft C v6.00 with the Netware C
libraries.  We just moved our development over to Borland C++ v3.1, but
we CANNOT get the libraries to link in correctly.

I have put the libraries in the BORLANDC\LIB directory with all the
other libraries and the include files in the INCLUDE directory.

I can't get even the simplest code to work, everything generates an
error that basically tells us that it can't find the function.

Can somebody PLEASE help me!

Thanks!
Rick Wagner
wagner@main.mndly.umn.edu
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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1992 08:26:00 +0800
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From:         HRADFCK@HKUCC.HKU.HK
Subject:      SNMP !
X-To:         NOVELL@suvm.acs.syr.edu

Does any body had the experience of implementing SNMP agent on a DOS
Client with a NE2000 NIC?
We have quite a few NE2000 NICs (to be exact, they are National Semi-
conductor EtherNODE.16AT-T which use the same set of drivers as the
NE2000) and want to incorporate SNMP agent under DOS.
I do understand that some NICs (Cabletron is a good example) come with
SNMP agent.  But I've asked our local supplier for things like this,
they said they knew nothing about it.
Could someone  please tell me where can I get them?  Or if it is a
commercial product,  where can I buy them?

Thank you very much in advance.

C. K. Fung
Department of Education
University of Hong Kong
Hong Kong
hradfck@hkucc.hku.hk
hradfck@hkucc.bitnet
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From:         "(Daniel M. Maunz)" <IO80734@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Subject:      Problems with WS Kit 4 DOS & Windows
X-To:         novell@SUVM.SYR.EDU

  Greetings,
  I am having major problems with the upgrade kit for windows clients.
  Any help with the following problem would be greatly appreciated.
   - The machine ran fine with the winup6.zip upgrade applied to it.
     But after running the purchased upgrade kit I have experienced the
     following problems: seemingly random 'cannnot read from drive C'
     errors, all program manager icons appear as black squares, and
     when trying to run any of the nwtools programs result in errors
     such as: cannot find netware.dll, no netware tool modules specified,
     bad parameter or this tools dll is no longer listed.
  I have tried re-installing windows from scratch and then running the
  WS kit and end up with the same problems. Has anyone else seen these
  problems? Thanks, - Dan
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 08:20:00 EDT
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From:         Bob Caine <BCNSTAT@NAS.BITNET>
Subject:      Internal Stack Overflow

One of our NW file servers issued the dreaded Internal Stack Overflow , System
Halted message when someone was attempting to load the INSTALL NLM.

The server is a PS/2 model 80 w/ 1 ea 600 Mb and 1 ea 300 Mb ESDI drive, 12 Mb
RAM, Adaptec SCSI for the tape backup device and 2 ea IBM Token Ring adapters
running at 4 Mb. Cache Buffers are running at about 60%.

The server is running NetWare 3.11 with about 15 patches for various items, the
ARCserve NLMs and no more. The error was replicated a second time, but since
this is a production system, I cannot disect the server until the weekend. I
have seen this message on DOS systems, but never on a NW file server. Has
anyone else seen this message ?

Any thoughts on it's origin would be appreciated

Thanks in advance.

Bob Caine
National Academy of Sciences
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Subject: Bindery last-login info
From: engf002@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:39:02 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

A (tricky?) Novell technical question :

With SYSCON, under the "User Information" option, you can select
the "additional information" option. Amongst other things it
gives you the last login time/date of the selected user. This is
well and good. 

What I want to know is how do you get this very information 
(last login date) using the Bindery Services - i.e.
the INT 21H calls with the E3 function codes, esp. 3D (Read
Property Value). I am very familiar with these calls and have got
a lot of information from the bindery, but this last-login-time
eludes me. One would expect the relevant property (say
"LAST_LOGIN", or similar) to appear on the nice table on page
3-13 of the Bindery Services manual (Netware System Interface
Technical Overview) but there is nothing there remotely like it.
I have tried several combinations of potential strings in the
vain attempt of succeeding, but with no luck. 

Help! (We are running V3.10)

Andrew Earl   (ENGF002@canterbury.ac.nz)

-- He who laughs last, laughs second-to-last next time. --
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From:         Bruce Holmstead <BRUCEH@CAEDM.BYU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Utility Needed

> Date:       Tue, 1 Sep 1992 12:52:54 CST
> Reply-to:   craig%ae.agecon.wisc.edu@VM.BYU.EDU
> From:       "Craig C. Tierney" <CRAIG%AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU@VM.BYU.EDU>
> Subject:    Utility Needed
> X-To:       NOVELL%SUVM.BITNET@UAFSYSB.UARK.EDU
> To:         Multiple recipients of list NOVELL <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>

> Does anyone have or know of a utility that will generate a list of
> all accounts that are disabled?

Craig,

Mass User Management will do this for you.  You can find it on
several ftp sites in demo mode--the demo version will still do this
for you.  Its an awesome program because it does a whole lot more as
far as reports, changing accounts, adding and deleting users.

NOTE:  I wrote it so I am a bit biased!  Anyway check it out.  Here's
a few of the servers its on:

LOCATION                ADDRESS         DIRECTORY
splicer.cba.hawaii.edu  128.171.17.7    novell/util
risc.ua.edu             130.160.4.7     pub/network/misc
simtel-20               192.88.110.20   pd1:[msdos.lan]

Hope this helps.

Bruce





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      S.Bruce Holmstead                            (801) 378-6615
--CAEDM PC Network Supervisor--                 BRUCEH@caedm.byu.edu
   Brigham Young University                           Provo, UT
From: mark_cor@vulcan.mentec.ie
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Latest Western Digital Drivers
Date: 27 Aug 92 09:13:53 GMT
Organization: Mentec Computer Systems, Dublin, Ireland


	Hi folks,

		Could anyone please tell me of an FTP site

	where I can get the latest Western Digital drivers

	i.e. version 3.26 shells.

		Thanks,

		  Mark



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