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From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (K. Mitchell Bose)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Who was drafted befor "Big Hurt"? (Was: Re: Clark v Thomas)
Date: 12 Jan 1993 01:52:33 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
NNTP-Posting-Host: carina.unm.edu

In article <steph.726791637@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu> steph@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson) writes:
>In <1ispngINNg3a@lynx.unm.edu> kbos@carina.unm.edu (K. Mitchell Bose) writes:
>[...]
>
>>The players drafted before Thomas were:
>
>>Ben McDonald, Orioles
>>Tyler Houston, Braves
>[...]
>ARRGGGGHHH!!!
>Wouldn't Frank Thomas have looked good in a Braves uniform?

No, frankly, I think it would have been one of the worst things to happen to the
sport of baseball in the last half century.  I'm still rather upset that the
Braves are even allowed to participate in the draft.  I think that they should 
only be allowed to sign players who have already been released from three other
organizations.

Of course, I'm not a Braves fan... :)


-- 
Kurt Bose (as in Daisy, not Rose) * kbos@carina.unm.edu * Walks: not that sexy.
"Halt!  Based on conclusive dental evidence that truly bites, I arrest you 
 hereby for the murdering of the dead Belzic Tascar.  I am obliged to warn you 
 that my weapons are registered as offensive fronds!!"- R.M.Allen, "Monkey See"
From: fierkelab@bchm.biochem.duke.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: ROTISSERIE:  Mussina + Ryan Thompson for Jeff Bagwell + Mike Devereaux
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:25:25 GMT
Organization: Biochemistry

In article <fd0265b@rpi.edu> sullis@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Sean C. Sullivan)
writes:
>
>Well, I DID NOT trade Mussina for Shane Mack + Derek Bell.
>
>Instead, I made this trade with a different team:
>
>	I received- Jeff Bagwell(Astros) & Mike Devereaux(Orioles)
>	I gave up- Mike Mussina & Ryan Thompson(Mets)
>
>
>I play in a Rotisserie-like league.
>We use both NL and AL players; we have 16 teams.
>
>My pitching staff is still pretty decent because
>I have Bill Wegman(Brewers), Curt Schilling(Phillies), and
>Sid Fernandez(Mets).
>
>Comments?
>-- 
># Sean C. Sullivan (sullis@rpi.edu) | R.P.I. | DISCLAIMER:  Not!   #
># (AFS home directory:  /afs/rpi.edu/home/95/sullis)               #
># "Holy mother of God, what is Lou Gorman smoking?" == Dave Kirsch #
>

At the risk of being jumped on again, I like this deal better than the other
one.  IMO, Jeff Bagwell, despite playing in the Astrodome, is a better hitter
NOW than Shane Mack will EVER be, even though he plays in the Baggiedome.  For
the person who said that Shane Mack was among of the best 12 offensive players
(in baseball?  in the AL?  at his position??? ;), his stats remind me of
Claudell Washington.  Both are/were solid offensive players(reasonable average,
some power), but not great offensive players.  No one ever accused Claudell of
being one of the best 12 offensive players in baseball or in his league.

Mike Deveraux is an underated offensive player, IMO.  He'll be about as steady
a 3rd or 4th outfielder for you as Mack would have been.

Down sides to this deal...

1)  Less Risk...paradoxically, risk is good at times.  If Derek Bell develops
to the peaks of his potential, you'll kick yourself for the next couple of
years that you didn't make the first trade.  He COULD be great; or he could be
Ellis Burks.

2)  Your Starting Pitching...OK, I suppose, but not what I would have called
strong.  Unless I really needed the hitting, I think I would have kept Mussina
with that staff.  (Of course, my idea of a strong pitching staff consisted of
Appier, Nagy, Drabek, and Z. Smith last season.  And I still didn't win...)



Eric Roush			Deck us all with Boston Charlie
fierkelab@			Walla Walla Wash and Kalamazoo!
bchm.biochem.duke.edu	Nora's freezin' on the Trolley,
				Swaller Dollar Cauliflower Alla-ga-Roo!

				Walt Kelley
From: jg4e+@andrew.cmu.edu (J. Anthony Graves)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: PITTSBURGH FANTSAY LEAGUE
Date: 5 Jan 93 04:46:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.wfGNwoG00WBL01dWJo
Organization: Doctoral student, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I am starting up a fantasy baseball league in the Pittsburgh area.  The
entrance fee is $50 (that's per team, not per person- i.e.-more than one
person can own a team).  The money will go to buy software and stats,
but most importantly the JACKPOT!  If we get enough people we will play
both leagues.  Drafting will take place over two days two weeks before
the start of the regular season.  If you are interested contact me at my
e-mail address, jg4e+@andrew.cmu.edu, and I will get back to you
promptly. Thanks.
-Tony Graves
From: llorenzo@loontown.EBay.Sun.COM (Neophyte Saxman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: 40 man rosters
Date: 5 Jan 1993 21:30:34 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: loontown.ebay.sun.com
Summary: Rotisserie Leagues (NL) looking for new owners
Keywords: Rotisserie Leagues need new owners

Howdy Folks!

Please contact me if you are in the SF Bay area and want to join a Rotisserie League.
We have two leagues that need new owners - one for expansion, one for expansion and 
turnover.  Both leagues are made up of NL players. 

Our Ultra league will need 4-5 owners.  This league has been around since 1987.
The other league is basic rotiss and we're looking for two new owners for expansion
(this league was formed in 1986).

The cost for each of these leagues is in the range of $125-$200 (depending on your 
luck and number of transactions).

Please reply by E-Mail.  I can give you more information over the phone. 

regards,

Larry Lininger

Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
From: TKOZMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: PTP ver. 4.04 not working
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit MI  U.S.A.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:53:09 GMT

I just got a copy of Pursue the Pennant v4.04.  When I issue the "play"
command I get the message "cannot find playgame.exe file" but that file
shows up when I check the directory.  I also can't get any of the various
create commands to do anything.  Does anyone else have this version and
have you experienced any problems?  I've tried calling the company but
have only gotten busy signals so far.  I'd appreciate it if any responses
could be sent directly to me as I don't get to read this newsgroup very
often.
 
Thanks.
 
Tom Kozma
TKOZMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
From: tloughin@IASTATE.EDU (Thomas M Loughin)
Subject: Re: Mussina et. al
Keywords: Mussina, Deveraux, other orioles, Mack
Reply-To: tloughin@IASTATE.EDU (Thomas M Loughin)
Organization: Iowa State University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 16:13:11 GMT

In article <1im900$gc3@agate.berkeley.edu>, hankwong@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Y.
Wong) writes:
> If you have Baltimore players, notably such as Brady Anderson, Chris Hoiles,
> Deveraux, Leo Gomez, shop 'em around- they are way overvalued right now.

I have to agree with you -- HALF way.  Anderson and Devereaux are, indeed 
overvalued right now, but Hoiles and Gomez are for real.  In fact, I'd guess 
that Gomez, at least, is still going to develop.  It is possible that 
perceptions of Hoiles may be inflated due to his tremendous start last year, 
but I'd _consider_ trading him for Tettleton straight up.  We have a funny set 
of rules in our head-to-head, game-a-day league that allow me to use him as 
a catcher even on days when he plays DH (errors and PB's count negatively in 
this league, and ya can't make errors if ya doesn't field), so the nod goes to 
Mickey, for now.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
From: arrow@netcom.com (Les Arrow)
Subject: Re: ROTISSERIE:  Boston's Bullpen
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:16:33 GMT

In article <rf+35-c@rpi.edu> sullis@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Sean C. Sullivan) writes:
>
>Boston's bullpen...
>  Now that the BoSux no longer have Jeff "All Time Saves
>Leader" Readon, how does the bullpen shape up?
>  I know that they attempted to sign Henke.
>will they go after Jeff Russell??
>
>  Or, will Greg Harris, Danny Darwin (?), Ken Ryan,
>Jose Melendez, and others(?) pickup the saves????
>-- 

I think a better question Sean is who the heck is going to start for this
team! 

But anyway, expect them to sign Jeff "Bone Chips" Russell. If they don't
Ken Ryan will try to close. He's a darn good prospect, but didn't look
good late last year. I don't think he'll be successful at it this year.
Grab him cheap if you grab him at all or are rebuilding.

--Les

># Sean C. Sullivan (sullis@rpi.edu) | R.P.I. | DISCLAIMER:  Not!   #
># (AFS home directory:  /afs/rpi.edu/home/95/sullis)               #
># "Holy mother of God, what is Lou Gorman smoking?" == Dave Kirsch #


Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
From: sullis@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Sean C. Sullivan)
Subject: ROTISSERIE:  Angel's projected rotation
Organization: Rotisserie Polytechnic Institute (Troy, NY, USA)
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 04:31:15 GMT

Ok, it's time to guess the California Angels starting
rotation...
  Chuck Finley, Mark Langston, Julio Valera, Russ Springer,
and ??-Hilly Hathaway?   (Blyleven won't be back)
-- 
# Sean C. Sullivan (sullis@rpi.edu) | R.P.I. | DISCLAIMER:  Not!   #
# (AFS home directory:  /afs/rpi.edu/home/95/sullis)               #
# "Holy mother of God, what is Lou Gorman smoking?" == Dave Kirsch #
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
From: frisch1@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan Katz)
Subject: MIT league
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 06:29:33 GMT

I am trying to start an NL Rotisserie league.  The league will be based on the
official rotisserie rules, with a few variations.  The league needs only a few
 more owners.
Any members of the MIT community who are interested are invited to email me at
frisch1@athena.mit.edu, and I will get back to you.
-Jonathan Katz
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
From: kbanaian@bernard.pitzer.claremont.edu (King Banaian)
Subject: Re: Would you trade Puckett for McGwire?
Organization: Pitzer College
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:17:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.193437.6636@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> dadler@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (David Adler) writes:
>Here's the scenario - I'm in a standard 10-team AL roto league.
>I finished first in average and RBI, middle of the pack in homers
>and stolen bases.
>
>   I'm going to propose a trade of Kirby Puckett ($27) for
>Mark McGwire ($16). The guy with McGwire needs average
>desperately, so he'll probably be interested in at least thinking
>about it.
>
>   Thoughts or comments? McGwire has had a lot of good power years,
>and I think Kirby may have peaked this past year. Of course, they are
>both secure with fat new contracts, so neither of them will be
>trying to prove anything this year...
>
Someone else asked you to ask three questions:  Who replaces Kirby, who do 
you have at first now, and what can you buy in the pool wiht the extra $11?  
Those are great questions.  (Sorry I didn't post that quote but I deleted it 
by mistake.)  Add to that this question:  isn't it likely there is someone 
in the pool at first who can generate an extra 10 homers at first for you at 
fairly low cost?  (That is, if your first baseman currently stinks, like 
Pete O'Brien.)  A chancy guy like say John Jaha or Mo Vaughn, or a 
dependable but second-ten player like a Maas or maybe you can grab Paul 
Sorrento at low cost.  The point is that I seldom want to spend huge dollars 
at first base unless I am getting a true blue chip player (I have McGriff), 
because after the top bunch there are many players with fairly similar 
stats.  Puckett is harder to replace than McGwire.  McGwire has 1992, but I 
would not ignore 1991, either.
From: grabiner@math.harvard.edu (David Grabiner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: Statistical summary: wins vs. stat categories
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:20:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: kovalevs.GRABINER.93Jan12161943
Organization: /etc/organization
In-reply-to: jle@world.std.com's message of Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:21:57 GMT


I posted a followup to an earlier version of this article, including a
more detailed study, in rec.sport.baseball.  The message ID is

<GRABINER.93Jan12161629@kovalevskaia.harvard.edu>

--
David Grabiner, grabiner@zariski.harvard.edu
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"Please rotate your phone 90 degrees and try again."
Disclaimer: I speak for no one and no one speaks for me.
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From: dadler@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (David Adler)
Subject: Key vs. Tapani
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 15:21:18 GMT

I've just been offered Kevin Tapani ($19) for Jimmy Key ($17)
in a standard AL roto league. I know, they're both overpriced....

Any thoughts on how Jimmy Key will do in Yankee Stadium?
He has done well there against the Yankees, but now he's
no longer pitching AGAINST them...(-:

   Tapani is three years younger, which is a point in his
advantage.

Dave


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
From: erude@antioch.acns.nwu.edu (Erick Rudiak)
Subject: Re: ROTISSERIE:  Boston's Bullpen
Organization: Northwestern University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:24:44 GMT

In article <kbanaian.157.0@bernard.pitzer.claremont.edu>, kbanaian@bernard.pitzer.claremont.edu (King Banaian) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan11.231633.1976@netcom.com> arrow@netcom.com (Les Arrow) writes:
|> >In article <rf+35-c@rpi.edu> sullis@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Sean C. Sullivan) 
|> writes:>>
|> >>Boston's bullpen...
|> >>  Now that the BoSux no longer have Jeff "All Time Saves
|> >>Leader" Readon, how does the bullpen shape up?
|> >>  I know that they attempted to sign Henke.
|> >>will they go after Jeff Russell??
|> >>
|> >>  Or, will Greg Harris, Danny Darwin (?), Ken Ryan,
|> >>Jose Melendez, and others(?) pickup the saves????
|> >>-- 
|> >
|> >But anyway, expect them to sign Jeff "Bone Chips" Russell. If they don't
|> >Ken Ryan will try to close. He's a darn good prospect, but didn't look
|> >good late last year. I don't think he'll be successful at it this year.
|> >Grab him cheap if you grab him at all or are rebuilding.
|> >
|> Sean, they have to sign Russell, or the team goes nowhere.  Darwin's arm won'
|> t take the load, and after signing all these veterans I cannot imagine they 
|> will close with Ryan.  I think he's a good prospect, if you have a reserve 
|> list to store him on.
|> 
	Speaking of prospects, weren't the Red Sox pretty high on Pete Hoy coming out of
spring training last year?  Then, they only used 5 times all year long.  What happened?

-- Erick
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From: demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: Padres Bullpen
Date: 11 Jan 93 08:00:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.43317
Organization: CSE Dept., UC San Diego


In article <1993Jan11.063428.1523@athena.mit.edu>, frisch1@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan Katz) writes:
|> Anyone have any ideas on who the dominant reliever will be this year for the
|> Padres?  (I hope they haven't made some free agent acquisition that I'm not
|> presently aware of.)  Anyway, one rumor I heard was Tim Scott, which sounds
|> reasonable except that his minor league stats were never great (as far as I'm
|> aware), and he did nothing in the majors last year.
|> Any opinions?  Anyone in SD know if they're leaning towards him?

I've heard Scott & Jeremy Hernandez might be tried in the closer spot.
Maybe Roger mason? :-)  Seriously, it's too early to tell.  I suspect
that Hernandez will emerge, but if he has some rocky outings early,
it'll be a committee.  No one will get 25 saves.


-- 
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From: jclark@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (J. Michael Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Looking for a fantasy league
Date: 4 Jan 93 23:19:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept,. Athens


I may be interested in joining a fantasy league for the 93 season (either
computer or mail). If anyone knows of one please let me know via e-mail
at jclark@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu     Thank you,
 
J. Michael Clark
Ohio University
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
From: djcoll04@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Looking for a fantasy league
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:03:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1993Jan4.231925.13918@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu>, jclark@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (J. Michael Clark) writes:
> 
> I may be interested in joining a fantasy league for the 93 season (either
> computer or mail). If anyone knows of one please let me know via e-mail
> at jclark@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu     Thank you,
>  
> J. Michael Clark
> Ohio University

I am also interested in joining a league for the '93 season.  Contact me over 
the network or at my e-mail address.  If J. Clark or anyone else would like to 
start up a league, feel free to contact me.

P. Tierney
U. of Louisville
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
From: jle@world.std.com (Joe M Leonard)
Subject: How 'bout commenting on a Strato trade...
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 01:16:29 GMT

Since I've seen several Roto trades discussed recently, I thought I'd
throw in a biggie from the Strato league I'm in...  It's 10 teams, from
both leagues, and we keep the teams from year to year.  (with all that 
talent, 5 of 10 don't have a SS!).

The trade:

I gave:		Ray Lankford, 1993 #1

I got:		Paul Molitor, Ben McDonald, 1993 #2 (10th pick of round)
		1994 #1 and 1994 #3

As you can guess, I'm not going for it this year - as it's my second
year of existance...  How'd I do?  A lot comes down to whether
Lankford is as good/better/worse than his performance this year, and
whether McDonald (a) can learn to throw a few less HR's and (b) he's
healthy (Baltimore fans help me out here!)  Also, I feel next year's
draft (we can pick only those players with cards) will be a good
one due to the expansion teams (last years and this years (comming soon...)
were terrible!)

Joe Leonard
jle@world.std.com

P.S. Molitor will not be on my roster opening day...
From: fierkelab@bchm.biochem.duke.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: ROTISSERIE:  Shane Mack+Derek Bell for Mike Mussina
Date: 6 Jan 93 21:04:59 GMT
Organization: Biochemistry

In article <9301062015.AA18744@rit.cs.rit.edu> scs2080@cs.rit.edu (Sean C
Sullivan) writes:
>I play in a Rotisserie-like league.
>
>My league uses these categories:
>  Offense - Batting Avg, Slugging, Runs+RBI, Walks, Stolen Bases
>  Pitching - ERA, Wins, Saves, K/BB ratio, H/9 ip
>
>I've been offered this trade:
>	I would receive - Shane Mack and Derek Bell
>	I would give up - Mike Mussina
>
>Ignoring Salaries and contract status, should I make
>this deal?
>
>I'm looking for feedback.  I already know that Derek
>Bell should start for Toronto in 1993.
>
>Thanks.
>-Sean
> scs2080@cs.rit.edu
> sullis@rpi.edu
>

Well, there are a couple of variables to consider...

1)  How strong is your pitching versus your outfield?
2)  How long do you get to protect players in your league?
3)  How well do you think your team will do this year?  Next year?

IMO, this trade boils down to the futures of Derek Bell and Mike Mussina. 
Shane Mack is a good but not great outfieleder who will help you this year if
you have a weak outfield.  If your outfield is strong and your pitching is
weak, then this deal would only help you if you can trade your surplus
outfielders for more pitching.  (Sorry if this sounds kinda obvious, just
thinking through my fingertips...)

Questions about the players...is Derek Bell the next George Bell, or the next
Mark Whiten?  If you think he's more like George than Mark, then the trade's
probably worth it.  If I recall, Derek tended to struggle a while at each level
of minor league ball, then storm through that league the next season. 
Presumably last season was his Major League "struggle".  The Blue Jays are
pretty good judges of hitting talent, so, if they think he's ready, he probably
is.

Mussina I don't know as much about off the top of my head.  I know he pitched a
lot in college and I think he did OK with the O's at the end of last season. 
I'd think he'd be less likely to have an outstanding season next year than
Bell, but he may be a better bet in the long run.

In summation, if it were me, I'd make the trade if
a)  I was deep in pitching, weak in the outfield, and/or thought I had a chance
of winning next season if I made the deal(any 2 of 3).
b)  My team was so bad that two live bodies beats one live body
c)  I couldn't protect Mussina for the next 2-3 years...(depends on league
circumstances)

I wouldn't make the trade if I was building for the long run unless my outfield
((starters and prospects) really stunk.

Eric Roush			Deck us all with Boston Charlie
fierkelab@			Walla Walla Wash and Kalamazoo!
bchm.biochem.duke.edu	Nora's freezin' on the Trolley,
				Swaller Dollar Cauliflower Alla-ga-Roo!

				Walt Kelley
From: fierkelab@bchm.biochem.duke.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: Analysis
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:54:07 GMT
Organization: Biochemistry



>buzzb@.mentorg.com (Buzz Brehm) Sun Feb  8 20:40:48 1993 says...

>I in a standard AL Roto, except we use OBP instead of BA.  I've got to skinny
>down to 15 players, and would like some opinions...

>O
>-
>B Williams  $1
>G Williams  $5
>P Munoz     $5
>M Cuyler    $10

>O/DH
>----
>D Winfield  $16
>K Reimer    $10

>1B
>--
>P Sorrento  $8
>JT Snow     $10

>2B
>--
>B Boone     $5
>S Fletcher  $10

>SS
>--
>T Fryman    $15
>G Gagne     $5
>F Fermin    $1

>3B
>--
>G Jefferies $26

>C
>-
>None (had Wedge #$@$%)

>SP
>--
>B Wegman    $10
>M Trombley  $5

>RP
>--
>J Grahe     $3
>S Radinsky  $7


>Comments?




-- 

-- BuzzB
  
(Note:  The following is all based on the assumption  that you are keeping 15
and releasing  3, since I count 18 on your roster.)  Well, the first cut is
easy. Fermin Must Go!  The second is only a little bit tougher.  Gagne would be
my choice here.  You can probably pick up someone with a similar bat during
your draft.  The third cut is a little tougher.  If you need money, cut Scott
Fletcher.  Last year was an abberation in what had been a downward slope, IMO. 
Besides, Bret Boone should be a pretty good 2B for Seattle next year.  But if
you feel you need insurance for Boone, then keep Fletcher and release Bernie
Williams.  Do you really need someone who's a prime canidate for the Columbus
Shuttle next season?


Eric Roush			Deck us all with Boston Charlie
fierkelab@			Walla Walla Wash and Kalamazoo!
bchm.biochem.duke.edu	Nora's freezin' on the Trolley,
				Swaller Dollar Cauliflower Alla-ga-Roo!

				Walt Kelley
From: ae935@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jon Waler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Looking for a league in Cleveland area
Date: 12 Jan 1993 06:08:49 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


If anyone has a league that is looking for teams in the 
Cleveland area, please contact me.

Jw
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