HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: raman@cs.cornell.edu (T. V. Raman)
Subject: Hiding lines under vm
Summary: How do you hide the included lines in a followup message when reading i
Keywords: hiding lines, quoted lines in followups
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:31:02 GMT


Hi!

I use vm under emacs, and wonder if anyone has code that will
selectively hide lines preceeded by say ">". This would be extremely
useful for following conversations on mailing lists etc. 

Thanks,

--Raman
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From: picasso@bass.bu.edu (David Ondzes)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: help with Texinfo
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:25:33 GMT
Distribution: gnu.emacs.help
Organization: /usr2/graduate/picasso/.organization



I was wondering if there is any way to include a text file in another
file so that when I run makeinfo the text file get insert in the info
file that is being made.

for example say I am making help.info and in help.info I want to 
include a text file called help.txt. I would then use makeinfo on
help.info to make my info file. The reason for this is so that if I
change the text within help.txt I only have to run makeinfo again
and the new info file will reflect the changes.

I would appreciate a email responses


Thanks
David



Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: alufml@purple.fnma.com (Francois-Michel Lang)
Subject: finding NIS mail aliases
Organization: Fannie Mae, Washington, DC
Distribution: gnu
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 19:31:09 GMT


I'm using GNU Emacs 18.54.19 on a SPARC2 running SunOS 4.1.1.

My problem: the only mail aliases that Emacs seems to know about are those
in my ~/.mailrc file;  I'd like GNU to know about the mail aliases in the
NIS database---i.e., those that you see by doing

% ypcat -k aliases

Does anyone have a workaround that can be hooked into build-mail-aliases,
or perhaps an altogether different way to solve the problem?

Many thanks.
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From: dipak@radiant.eng.yale.edu (Dipak Chowdhury)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: reading news in emacs
Keywords: news, emacs
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:34:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr9.143423.13460
Organization: INRIA Sophia Antipolis, France

I did M-x rn <return> and emacs went through the .chrc file and gave the
message "no news is good news" with a blank screen. That is bad news for me.
Any help?

Thanks.
						dipak
						dipak@radiant.eng.yale.edu
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: cho@cs.sandia.gov (Kah-Song Cho)
Subject: Read Usenet News Via Emacs
Organization: Gatewayed from the GNU Project mailing list help-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:43:07 GMT

Hi,

Could someone out there advise me as how to read usenet news using gmacs
(TMC version with tmc-gmacs-hacks)?  I just noticed that there is a
M-x rnews option in gmacs but my rn's .newsrc doesn't seem to be the one
rnews is looking for.

Thanks in advance.

Kah-Song Cho
From: mrp@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Shorter filenames in dired
Date: 8 Apr 92 10:07:51 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

When using dired (both versions, the one supplied and the one by
S.Kremer) the file lines include the whole path of the file rather
than just the leaf name.

for example:
  /n/Server1/usr2/mrp:
  drwx--S---  14  mrp      staff      1536 Apr  8 10:31 /n/Server1/usr2/mrp/./.
  drwxr-sr-x  47  bin      bin        1024 Apr  1 10:28 /n/Server1/usr2/mrp/./..
  -rw-------   1  mrp      staff        69 Dec  2 19:41 /n/Server1/usr2/mrp/./.Xdefaults
  -rw-------   1  mrp      staff     11065 Dec  2 19:41 /n/Server1/usr2/mrp/./.Xresources

(soz if the >80cols didnt transmit too well).

How do I stop this from hapenning?

ls -al on this system just includes the filenames.

- martin.
From: jf41+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jonathan R. Ferro)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: completing-read
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:25:00 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I just hacked this up in about 45 minutes (35 minutes flipping through
the lisp manual and 10 minutes typing) and I liked it so much I put it
in my .emacs.

-------
(defun scroll-completions-down (&optional arg)
  (interactive "p")
  (save-excursion
    (let ((currwin (selected-window))
	  (compwin (get-buffer-window " *Completions*")))
      (if compwin
	  (unwind-protect
	      (progn
		(select-window compwin)
		(call-interactively 'scroll-down))
	    (select-window currwin))))))

(defun scroll-completions-up (&optional arg)
  (interactive "p")
  (save-excursion
    (let ((currwin (selected-window))
	  (compwin (get-buffer-window " *Completions*")))
      (if compwin
	  (unwind-protect
	      (progn
		(select-window compwin)
		(call-interactively 'scroll-up))
	    (select-window currwin))))))

(define-key minibuffer-local-completion-map "\C-v" 'scroll-completions-up)
(define-key minibuffer-local-completion-map "\M-v" 'scroll-completions-down)
(define-key minibuffer-local-must-match-map "\C-v" 'scroll-completions-up)
(define-key minibuffer-local-must-match-map "\M-v" 'scroll-completions-down)
------

Happy Hacking!

--
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jf41+@andrew.cmu.edu	"We can hack it!"
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From: maw@netcom.com (Martin Walker)
Subject: Abbrev point positioning
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 19:42:06 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: abbrev point

Can anyone tell me how (if at all possible) to position the pointt (cursor)
in an abbreviation expansion. What I want to achieve is to position
the point inside the opening parenthesis of an if ( ) statement in C.

Thanks in advance.

Kean Johnston
maw@netcom.com
From: bobhays@spss.com (Bob Hays)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Problem with switch statement indenting in c-mode
Keywords: C mode indenting
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:54:53 GMT
Organization: SPSS, Inc.


I was wondering what I have to do to get emacs to indent things the
way I want.  I've got it all working accept the switch statement.
Here is the idea:

if ( a )
{
    statement;
}
for ( )
{
    statement;
}
switch ( )
{
    case A:
    {
        statement;
    }
}

I cannot get the switch part to work at all.  Any suggestions would be
appreciated!

Have fun! - Bob

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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: liblit@cs.psu.edu (Benjamin R. Liblit)
Subject: electric keymaps
Organization: /usr/new/lib/news/organization
Distribution: gnu
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 06:00:16 GMT

The electric command history and buffer modes (echistory.el and
ebuff-menu.el) seem really nifty, and I'd rather use them than their
non-electric counterparts but for one failing: they hate my arrow
keys.

Now, I know how to let keymaps know about my particular terminal's key
sequences for arrows and other "special" keys.  I've got a rather
impressive term-setup-hook, in fact, that makes everything work all
nice and pretty for me.  Except for the heavily electric packages.
Grrrr.

I have already told the important global keymaps (such as esc-map)
what key sequences represent which special keys, using the truly
beautiful "keypad.el" functions.  I shouldn't *have* to tell the
electric packages the same information all over again.  I realize that
the electric packages try to blank out everything that doesn't perform
some known, package-specific function, but they're going overboard.
If I told emacs once that "ESC [ A" is the up-arrow key, I don't want
to tell it again for every add-on package I use that disables global
mappings.

(Ok, flame mode off.)

Does anyone know of a solution to this problem?  I want a way to have
the electric modes retain appropriate key mappings.  If "a" is a
self-inserting key globally, and serves no purpose in the electric
mode, then fine, disable it.  But if "ESC [ A" is mapped to the same
function as "C-p", and "C-p" is usable, then "ESC [ A" should be
usable too.  Can anyone suggest a general-case fixer that won't
require insanely terminal-aware mode hooks?

Thanks for any help you can provide....

--
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From: reb@punch.EBay.Sun.COM (Bob Brown)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: RMAIL and dired
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:33:36 GMT
Distribution: gnu
Organization: Systar Technologies, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: punch.ebay.sun.com



Maybe someone can help me.

I save a large number of mail files and news files into RMAIL format.
When I want to look at several files, I call up dired on the directory
and select 'f' to look at a specific file. 


When I do this, the file comes up in the wrong mode. It's very tedious
to change modes for each file I look at. Is there a way to get dired
to recognize that this is an RMAIL format file and open it in the
proper mode?!  (Not just dired, but C-x f would be nice too!)


--
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From: oconnorp@ul.ie
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Compiling emacs on a SYSV system - any help ???
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:06:01 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland


Hi everybody,

	I am not sure, if this is the right posting for this question, so
please bare with me.  A friend of mine has a SYSv R4 machine with version
3.0 system on it.  He is trying to compile gnuemacs-18.57 on it, but he is
having problems.
	He has already changed the flags in the Makefile, but there is still
a lot of compilation errors.  One of the problems seems to be in 'including'
the header files (I think).
	Anyway, he has asked me if I could post the following message
on the NEWS system.

	"	Has anybody successfully compiled gnuemacs on the above
	version, and if so, would it be possible to indicate what needs
	to be done.  If it is possible, could the changes be emailed and
	I can apply them himself. "

	"	If anybody is willing to help I would be grateful.
	Unfortunately, the only external email address is the one of Paul
	(the guy sending this posting), so he has to pass them on to
	me. "

	"	Thanks in advance,
				Gerry Hayden. "

	Thanks to anybody, if they can help Gerry out.

		Paul O' Connor.

===========================================================================
email: oconnorp@ul.ie
mail:	Dept. Computer Science & Information Systems,
	University of Limerick,
	Ireland.
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: roland@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Roland McGrath)
Subject: Useful indentation hack.
Organization: Gatewayed from the GNU Project mailing list help-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 15:49:05 GMT

I set c-tab-always-indent to nil, and find this very useful:

;; This makes TAB in c-mode behave like indented-text-mode when not at BOL.
(fset 'insert-tab 'indent-relative)

For example, in c-mode, editting:

  {
    { "single-user",		no_argument, NULL, 's' },
    { "prompt-for-servers",	no_argument, NULL, 'p' },

now I can type:

TAB { SPC " f o o " , TAB n o _ a r g u m e n t , SPC N U L L , SPC ' f '
SPC } ,

and get:

    { "foo",			no_argument, NULL, 'f' },

Without this hack, one has to hit TAB several times to line things up.
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: jla@lucid.com (Joseph Arceneaux)
Subject: Text highlighting in Emacs
Reply-To: jla@ai.mit.edu
Organization: Gatewayed from the GNU Project mailing list help-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:58:23 GMT

   Date: 12 Apr 92 15:29:41
   From: meggin@epas.utoronto.ca (David Megginson)

   In article <9204121108.AA06036@jekyll.ccv> rms@ccv.FR (Richard M. Stallman) writes:

      We have code basically working for attaching arbitrary properties to
      parts of the text, including choice of font and color.

   Thank you for the information. When this ability is implemented, will
   it work on any terminal (using termcap), or will it be especially
   designed for X?

On terminals it provides inverse video and underlining, for terminals
that support this.
From: pinkas@caraway.intel.com (Israel Pinkas)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
Subject: Re: Speed & multiple newsrc's (separate issues)
Date: 1 Apr 92 23:37:12 GMT
Distribution: gnu
Organization: Software Technologies, INTeL Corporation, Santa Clara, CA
In-reply-to: cloos@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU's message of 1 Apr 92 08:03:08 GMT

cloos@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (James H. Cloos Jr.) writes:

> Right now I have all of the available newsgroups in my .newsrc and
> .newsrc.el files.  Should I expect any speed improvements from gnus
> (most recent vers) if I were to delete all of the groups that I do not
> regularly read?
>
> I'm thinking of maintaining 2 .newsrc files.  One for my regular
> stuff, and another for all the rest.  I understand that there is
> sufficient support for multiple newsrc files either built into gnus or
> available from the std archive sites.  Is there any support for moving
> a group from one file to the other?

Unless you plan on reading news with other newsreaders, there is a better
alternative: Kill the unwanted newsgroups.

GNUS allows you to kill groups from your .newsrc.  In .newsrc.el, it moves
the group into an alternate list, which are not displayed.  To kill a
group, start GNUS up, and type ^K on any unwanted group.  From then on,
that group will not be displayed, information about it will not be read
from the news server on startup, etc.  In addition, the group will be
removed from your .newsrc.

New groups will still be added to the beginning of the *Newsgroups* buffer.

If you decide you want to view a kill group, type L and then ^C^Y in the
*Newsgroups* buffer.  (That's capitol L followed by control-C control-Y.)
GNUS will then display the killed groups in a separate buffer.  Typing ^Y
in that buffer will move the group back info the *Newsgroups buffer, where
you can then read the group.

-Israel
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the opinions of Intel Corporation.  In no way should the above be taken
to be a statement of Intel.
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
Subject: Problem with "Lines:" header
From: ajt@resmel.bhp.com.au (Andrew Telford)
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:20:22 GMT
Distribution: gnu
Organization: BHP Research - Melbourne Laboratories

I have just installed version 3.14.1 of gnus.  Has anyone else had the problem 
of incorrect "Lines:" headers. ie:

 Nntp-Posting-Host: peregrin.resmel.bhp.com.au
 In-reply-to: ajt@resmel.bhp.com.au's message of 15 Apr 92 11:31:28 GMTLines: 11

It could be a problem with the lack of a "\n" at the end of the "In-reply-to"
field?

Andrew
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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: gnus wishes (many NNTP servers in *Newsgroup*, et al.)
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1992 05:05:56 GMT

It should be capable of running with separate subject and article
*screens* under epoch.

It should be possible to specify window sizes in at least one variant
manner: by allocating specific numbers of lines to one or two, then
using '-1' to mean 'as many lines as remain' for the other window.  So
we could say (assuming newsgroup/subject/article)

(0 4 -1)

to get 4 lines for the Subject buffer, in both 24-line and 67-line
layouts.
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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
From: franl@centerline.com (Fran Litterio)
Subject: Re: Thought on a new feature: Article count threshold
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:31:37 GMT

In article <TIBBS.92Apr14001222@karazm.math.uh.edu> tibbs@karazm.math.uh.edu (Jason Tibbitts) writes:

> One thing that tends to bother me is the time it takes to enter a newsgroup
> that has only a couple of unread articles in it.  All of the NNTP access is
> usually not worth the retrieval of one or two article headers.
> 
> What I propose is this: A mechanism to inhibit the display of certain
> newsgroups if they have less than a certain number of articles in them.

It might be simpler to bind all of the keys that causes groups to be
entered from the *Newsgroup* buffer to functions that skip over groups
that don't contain enough unread articles.  You'd still see the group
in the *Newsgroup* buffer, but all of the keys which enter newsgroups
will just "do the right thing".  I would think this would be easier to
implement than changing the code that builds the *Newsgroup* buffer,
but if you absolutely must not see those groups displayed in the
*Newsgroup* buffer, then making those changes appears to be your only
choice.
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From: palmerp@math.orst.edu (Paul A Palmer)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
Subject: Re: Automatic .sig inclusion
Date: 7 Apr 92 03:22:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: ilanga.PALMERP.92Apr6192258
	<CIMSHOP!DAVIDM.92Apr5170253@uunet.UU.NET>
	<TIBBS.92Apr6141158@karazm.math.uh.edu>
Reply-To: palmerp@math.orst.edu
Followup-To: gnu.emacs.gnus
Organization: Dept. of Math, Oregon State University

In article <TIBBS.92Apr6141158@karazm.math.uh.edu> tibbs@karazm.math.uh.edu (Jason Tibbitts) writes:

   "David" == David S. Masterson <cimshop!davidm@uunet.UU.NET> writes:

   David> Don't you just want to set the variable gnus-signature-file as in:

   David> (setq gnus-signature-file "~/.signature")

   Or just let INews do it, which is the default in most cases.  Setting the
   above variable and letting INwes append the .sig is the reason many people
   post with doubled signatures.

Well, I just learned something. I always end a post with C-cC-s. Since this is
bound to mh-insert-signature (I use mh-e for mail) in my mail buffers, I
thought that was what was inserting my .signature. Nope. If I do C-hkC-cC-s in
a post-news buffer, I get:

news-inews:
Send a news message.

I also checked that gnus-signature-file is set to "~/.signature" (must be in
our system gnus files, as it's not in my .emacs).

So, setting this variable and using C-cC-s to end a post seems to work for
getting exactly one copy of your .signature included.

--
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Department of Mathematics     	E-mail: palmerp@math.orst.edu
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Oregon State University, Corvallis, Oregon 97331-4605

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From: rossini@biosun2.harvard.edu (Anthony Rossini)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
Subject: xrn works but gnus doesn't?
Keywords: network problems
Date: 16 Apr 92 12:24:48 GMT
Organization: Biostat Dept, Harvard School of Public Health

I got GNUS 3.14.1 up and running recently, no problem.  Then they upgraded the
server here, and consequently messed up net-connections.  Now things are fixed,
however, I can't get GNUS to recognize the NNTP server, it says it doesn't exist.
However, xrn and rn will both recognize the server, and work (that's how I'm
reading news now).  I'd rather be using GNUS... :-(.  Does anyone have any clues
as to possible suggestions?  This is on a sun network (sparc-2's, IPC's, and the
server was changed to a 4/690), and the net problems basically were related to
the host tables/domain(name?) server being screwed up.  Might it be that they are
still screwed up?

Anyone else have this problem?

-tony

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From: halldors@garlic.cs.titech.ac.jp (Magnus M. Halldorsson)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
Subject: Simple query: How to list all the articles in a newsgroup
Date: 11 Apr 92 07:50:39 GMT
Distribution: gnu
Organization: Dept. of Computer Sci, Tokyo Inst. of Tech., Japan

Here's a question that should be trivial to answer, but in spite of
looking through on-line and off-line docs, as well as the FAQ draft, I
haven't found an answer yet:

  How do you display all the articles of a newsgroup, including those that
  you've already read? I.e. the Subject buffer counterpart of the "L" command 
  in the Newsgroup buffer. 

Thanks in advance,

Magnus
From: hollen@megatek.uucp (Dion Hollenbeck)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
Subject: whereis latest gnus?
Date: 11 Apr 92 15:58:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California

Where can I get the latest copy of gnus (3.14.1?) ?  Please mention a
mailserver since I cannot ftp.

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From: ajg@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Arnold Goldberg)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
Subject: emacs takes over the cpu when trying to post
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:45:31 GMT
Distribution: gnu
Organization: Computer Science Department/ University of Florida


I'm trying to set up gnus w/ emacs 18.57.
I can connect to the NNTP server properly but whenever I 
try to post, gnus flashes the message "Posting to USENET"
and then starts hogging the cpu.  I let it go for about 3-4
mins. and it just gets worse and worse.

Any ideas?

thanks

arnold


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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus
From: cho@cs.sandia.gov (Kah-Song Cho)
Subject: Gnus Installation Question
Organization: GNUs Not Usenet
Distribution: gnu
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:24:07 GMT

Hi, 

I had a problem installing gnus on my system (Sun 4/490).  I got
gnus-3.14.1.tar from your anonymous ftp site.  When I tried to make, I got
the following message:

Compiling /Net/home1/cho/rnews/gnus.el...
Loading cl-indent...
>>Error occurred processing gnus.el: File error (("Cannot open load file"
"nntp\
"))
Done
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `gnus.elc'

What is this nntp?  If I choose not to use nntp what changes should I make
to the source files and Makefile.  By the way, I also changed 'xemacs' in
the Makefile to 'emacs' since I don't have 'xemacs' on my system.  Is this
the right way to do?

Also another question on the doc, what is the printer format for
gnus.texinfo?  I have an access to a post-script printer here.  How do I
print out this document?

Thanks in advance.

Kah-Song
--------
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus