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From: kanefsky@halcyon.com (Steve Kanefsky)
Subject: Re: MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:44:32 GMT


General comment:  There's a lot of discussion of "PCs" vs "Macs," and
there's a lot of confusion because people mix up PC hardware with PC
software, operating systems, file systems, etc.  My earlier comments, for
example, compare the filesystem in the MacOS to the filesystem in DOS,
Windows, and other OS's which use the same filesystem for compatibility (I
understand Windows NT uses a new filesystem).  Almost all of the arguments
claiming that PCs are cheaper refer solely to hardware, and not to OS's or
software.  NeXT is porting their OS to the PC hardware platform.  Think
about how many of your arguments wouldn't make sense if you were running
NeXTstep on a PC.  To counter the "PCs are cheaper" arguments, we have to
demonstrate that the hardware itself is inferior, and thus that any
conceivable operating system running on a PC is at a disadvantage.
I'll leave it to the experts to expound on the many advantages of the
Motorola architecture over the Intel architecture, and just address
more down-to-earth issues like construction quality and attention
to detail.

I don't think there's any doubt that, by some measures, PC hardware is
cheaper than Mac hardware.  Of course, generic-brand ice cream is also a
lot cheaper than Haagen-Dazs (sp?) and some people probably couldn't tell
the difference.  How can you quantify quality?  One thing I do know is
that I get one hell of a warm-fuzzy when I first open up Mac hardware, and
PC hardware doesn't give me the warm-fuzzy.  Just look at the way
everything fits together on a Mac -- the way the icons on the cables match
the icons on their mating connectors, the attention to detail in the
packaging (an enclosed packing list, manuals labeled "Start Here," etc.)
Even after setting up many dozens of Macs, I still love this stuff.  I've
set up an equal number of PCs and they are a royal pain in comparison.

I like the analogy between cars and PCs.  To me, a PC is like a Chevy
while a Mac is like a BMW.  You can soup-up a Chevy and stick on enough
aftermarket contraptions to make it compare in objective terms with a BMW,
but it will never really be like a BMW.  The Chevy may do 0-60 faster,
have a higher top speed, etc., but the BMW gets you to your destination more
efficiently and with a lot less hassle.


--
Steve Kanefsky
From: npreyer@oregon.uoregon.edu (Norris Preyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: LaTeX
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:12:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: oregon.15SEP199208120784
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Oregon
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Mike_Peters-140992055221@kohlsranch.az.stratus.com>, Mike_Peters@vos.stratus.com (Mike Peters) writes...
>In article <jxhqbqmz@csv.warwick.ac.uk>, esrcn@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Tone)
>wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry if this is a FAQ but does anybody know if a version of LaTeX is
>> available for the mac. Also, if one does exist are there any good PD /
>> shareware dvi or postscript viewers around. 
>> 
>A shareware editor called "Alpha" has LaTeX support built in.  I found it
>on CompuServe and was reviewed in a recent MacWeek.  It is an Emacs style
>editor for the Mac complete with keyboard macros and most other Emacs
>functions.
> 
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The above answer is true, but isn't answering the question.  Alpha
has some support for editing TeX files, but isn't the formatter
or previewer.  There is a good PD TeX: OzTeX is on all the major
TeX servers, such as ymir.claremont.edu and niord.shsu.edu, and
on some mac/TeX servers like midway.claremont.edu.  The latter
site has a number of other interesting mac tools.

Note that it will take 10+Mb to install OzTeX!

Hope this helps--Norris Preyer
From: ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Printers cost too much!
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:39:53 GMT
Organization: Forschungszentrum Juelich

In article <1992Sep07.163625.14865@eng.umd.edu>, russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew
T. Russotto) says:
>are comparing Apples to Crabapples.  There's lots of non-PS SCSI
>printers out there for less than $1500, including the Apple Personal
>Laserwriter LS.

Does that mean there is a possibility to connect a Laserwriter LS to the SCSI
port ?  Will that increase printing speed opposed to connecting it to the
printer port ?

Thanx in advance, Michael Bode.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: maarten@fwi.uva.nl (Maarten Carels)
Subject: Re: Hard Partitioning vs Soft Partitioning
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:51:14 GMT

veloso@husc10.harvard.edu (Manuel Veloso) writes:

>>something about how hard it is to get around fileguard

>Actually, it's pathetically easy to get around fileguard, because it
>doesn't disallow read-access from non-finder programs. I haven't tried
>to change stuff, but copying is definitely possible.

>Maybe if they enforced application-specific access to applications,
>(ie: only the finder, system, and the application itself can access
>the app) FileGuard would be better...but they don't.

And even then, the mac is a non-protected machine. Imagine this
hard disk switched off, mac on
boot from a floppy, and switch the hard disk on.
At that time, the mac is up and running, and no driver is loaded for the disk.
Load a driver, but not the one that's present on the disk (that one is patched
by FileGuard).
Voila, you have the mac up and running, and the volume mounted with no trace
of fileguard anywhere.

The only protection such a product can give you is encryption of files. That
protection is just as strong as the encryption technique used.

I wouldn't allow fileguard or something like it within one meter of my mac...

--maarten

-- 
In real life:	Maarten Carels
		Computer Science Department
		University of Amsterdam
email:		maarten@fwi.uva.nl
From: marcus@sun.pcl.ac.uk (Marcus Harvey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: SpeedyFinder7 1.5.2 errors
Date: 11 Sep 92 10:12:13 GMT
Organization: Polytechnic of Central London

In article <1992Sep9.124435.18315@utkux1.utk.edu> danny@utkux1.utk.edu (Danny W. McCampbell) writes:
>In article <BuA6zH.9Iz@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, mpcg9397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark ) writes:
>> 
>> >In article <1992Sep8.160322.7779@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Robert Rumpf,
>> >rrumpf@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu writes:
>> >>I have had problems getting SpeedyFinder7 1.5.2 to work properly on my 
>> >>PowerBook.  I get lots of "The Application Unknown has quite
>> >unexpectedly" 
>> >>messages on bootup, which is when Shadowriter Backgrounder starts up.  I
>> >didn't
>> >>have this problem with SpeedyFinder7 1.5.  Is the author online
>> >somewhere?
>> 
>> I couldn't get any applications to run on my Mac IIsi with ver 1.5.2 installed
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>I run 1.5.2 on my CI without any problems so far.
>
>Danny 

SpeedyFinder7 causes Finder alert dialogs to appear half off-screen on my IIci with
Apple 8*24GC card.

Victor Tan is on Applelink at AUSTO116 but I am unsure how to e-mail to Applelink.

Marcus Harvey, Polytechnic of Central London IRS
marcus@uk.ac.pcl.sun - JANET  marcus%sun.pcl.ac.uk@ukacrl - BITNET/EARN

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From: baltman@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Brian Altman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: on the fly monitor depth changer
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:52:29 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

1st off I want to thank everyone who responded over the last week or
so in responding to my question about a shareware SuitcaseII/MasterJuggler.
Carpetbag doesn't compress fonts (my main reason for wanting something
like SuitcaseII/MasterJuggler). I've purchased MasterJuggler 1.58 and
I'm fairly happy with it. I would've thanked everyone via e-mail, but I've
had a lot of problems with e-mail recently. All the problems are cleared up
now.

I think what I'm looking for now is called Pixelchanger or something. I
can't find it on Sumex or Rascal...any leads would be appreciated.

Also, any leads for a .fli or .gl viewer?

Thanks,

-Brian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Eric.Choi@p5.f57.n7000.z8.ieee.org (Eric Choi)
Subject: Info regarding: Maxtor, SyQuest, ClubMac, & MacLand
Organization: FidoNet node 8:7000/57.5 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 03:41:01 GMT

Still in search of the best dim sum place in Michigan! 
 
  mu> Mail Order: I have to look for cheap deals (college budget), but I
  mu> also don't want to get screwed! I've seen reasonable prices for these
  mu> products at ClubMac and MacLand--but I know there are messy places out
  mu> there to deal with.... If you have any comments regarding these places
  mu> or have any urgent suggestions for or against another HD-carrying mail
  mu> order company, I'd love to hear it!
   
 Tried APS in Missouri. They have been around for a long time. I have
purchased
a few drives, mounting kits and others from them with satisfaction. Order and
tech support lines are toll free. There is a 30-day money back guarantee
(minus
shipping). APS has ads in MacWeek, MacWorld and MacUser.

MacDirect is also pretty good. But their drives are not put together as nice.
The last one I got has residue from a sticker on the bottom. They forgot to
send the manual also. APS seems to be more meticulous. Everything are in order
and packed securely.
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Organization: Sophomore, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:51:25 -0400 
From: Faisal Nameer Jawdat <fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: open 'About...' at startup?

ray@skipper.dfrf.nasa.gov (Jeff Ray) writes:
> Some time ago someone posted (and I'm not even sure to which group) a
> little app
> that used AppleEvents to open the "About This Macintosh..." box, then quit.
>  The intent was to drop it into the Startup Items folder, so the box would
> open at startup.
> 
> Unfortunately, I neglected to grab it when it was available, expecting it
> to
> show up at Sumex later.  No such luck.  Could someone please email it to
> me?
> I'd be ever so thankful.
> 
> Jeff Ray <ray@skipper.dfrf.nasa.gov>
> Woodside/NASA Dryden
> Irritant-at-Large

could someone send this to me too, or send me an ftp address or just
post?
thanks
faisal
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: mspace@netcom.com (Brian Hall)
Subject: Re: Registered Apple Developers?
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 17:34:35 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

Tim.Waire@f1138.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Tim Waire) writes:
>SoftArc has a gateway toolkit that helps to develop gateways to other systems
>for expanded connectivity (Fax, Internet, MS-Mail, etc).  Since FirstClass does
>not currently have a gateway that can import/export mail with FidoNet I offered
>to write one.  What I proposed was a gateway that would merely read and write
>files in the format required by Tabby, the current defacto FidoNet mailer for
>the Mac.  Tabby could then run in the background.

>Anyway, it turns out that since SoftArc is a registered Apple developer, they
>insist that anyone who develops gateways with their toolkit be a registered
>Apple developer.

>The big question, how does a pion like me with a home brewed BBS inexpensively
>become a registered Apple developer to write a simple gateway product for a
>BBS?

As Brian Bechtel pointed out, give Apple a call for the fine print.  You 
will likely want to become an associate, which costs roughly $350/year.

The bigger question sis *why* does SoftArc have this requirement? You would
think they would want to make it easy for third party developers to write
gateways.


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From: $ennsnr@brandonu.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.wanted
Subject: SAM Virus Newsline Phone# WANTED!!!
Date: 12 Sep 92 15:35:37 GMT
Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

About a year ago, I purchased a copy of Symantic Anti-Virus Clinic.
At the time, the phone number 408-255-8744 would get me the 24-Hour 
Virus Newsline.

Now this phone number does not exist. I have tried and tried to get the new
phone number, but can't find it. As well, the Symantic BBS number has changed
from 408-973-9598 to some other unknown number.

Does anyone have a more recent copy of SAM? If so, can you please tell me the
new numbers? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please e-mail replies to:
$ennsnr@brandonU.ca.

--
"To be average scares the HELL out of me"
Neil Enns
$ennsnr@brandonU.ca
From: hapa@cats.ucsc.edu (Doug Easterly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: SCSI Differences in IIfx and IIsi?  STRANGE Problems with Scanner
Date: 13 Sep 92 04:02:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsco.ucsc.edu


In article <1992Sep12.201626.23962@news.columbia.edu> ia4@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Imran Anwar) writes:
>II FX SCSI PROBLEMS WITH DEVICE THAT WORKS WITH II SI
>
>
>Could it be that good old Apple Computer has different (incompatible)
>types of SCSI ports on the II fx and si.  (eg the modem ports on them are
>built differently a few weeks ago each of my WorldBlazer modems failed
>to work with the II sis while they worked with the II fxs.  [Maybe Apple
>should also be getting a Baldridge Award ;-)  ]
>
>
>Imran Anwar


Here's the story.... the IIFX has the funky problem of being
equipped with a slightly different SCSI connector than other 
Macs. The real problem that comes up is not in the wiring- it
is in the way it is terminated.

I thought the FX used to come with a special FX terminator.
If yours didn't, you will have to talk to an Apple dealer,
and make sure that the end of your SCSI chain is terminated
with the FX terminator. 

With any luck, this should bring your Mac to a happy little
recognition of the SCSI chain.
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From: lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Damaged floppy savers?
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:09:34 GMT
Organization: UCLA Artificial Intelligence Laboratory

I've just gotten the dreaded "This disk is damaged" message on one of
my important (and only partially backed-up) floppies, which no amount
of shaking and the usual tricks will get to work.

Does somebody know of good PD or shareware damaged disk programs that
are likely to allow me to recover the files (I didn't see this listed
in the FAQ).

Thanks,

- Trent Lange
  lange@cs.ucla.edu.
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Subject: Re: good vi editor for the mac
From: Bruce.Hoult@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:44:19 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <23284@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM> root@lyra.hac.com (Dave Fisher) writes:
> 
> Let me illustrate a couple of vi examples for the benefit of the non-Unix 
> literate:
> 
> 1. I'm editing a file on machine X.  I need a line of text from another
>    file on machine Y.   I type "rsh machine-y grep keyword filename", then
>    hit the q key, which is mapped to a sequence (!!sh) which will then run this
>    line of text as a command, then return the output INTO my file.  Presto,
>    this other line of text is now in my file.  My fingers never leave the
>    keyboard.

On the Mac, in Apple's standard programmer's editor, MPW, you would type
'rshell -r machine-y "search keyword filename"' and press <Enter>.

Similar things apply for your other examples.


> The point is, vi (or emacs) are very powerful to a large degree because
> they can be *extended* with other programs (Emacs can be extended directly).
> This is a bit like the "plug-in software module" concept which we will
> hopefully be seeing more of on the Mac soon.

MPW is extended in a way that is between vi and Emacs -- it can call external
programs *and* it has a built-in language (although not as powerful as lisp).
-- 
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"Cray's producing a 500 MIPS personal computer with 256MB RAM and 8 GB
hard disk that fits in your pocket!"   "Great!  Is it PC compatible?"
From: jseboldt@pnet51.orb.mn.org (John Seboldt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Mac ][si & LC ][
Date: 13 Sep 92 20:05:01 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

fnawaz@nyx.cs.du.edu (fried!) writes:
>
> Hi!
>I am a college student, and I have to buy a Mac during the next week or
>so. Since the LC ][ and ][si are being sold at a student discount and 
>are both cheap, I'd like to know which one I should buy. I've also
>heard that Apple has come out with some new models. Could someone send
>info on them too?
>
>Thanking you in advance...


The IIsi is a much more "serious" machine -- faster, more expandable.  The
LCII has fewer slots and such.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system
From: sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Scott J. Kleper)
Subject: rebuild desktop :-( or :-) ?
Reply-To: sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 00:03:37 GMT

I remember amout three months ago, I was having some problem
and the company recommended that I rebuilt the desktop file.
It seemed to solve more problems than I expected! All of a 
sudden, some great new icons appeared, and things generally
worked better. Reading further about it, I learned that it's
recommended to be done once a month. So I figured last week
that it was long overdue, and I had better rebuild the desktop.
This time things were different :-(. No new icons appeared.
Instead, everything from HyperCard Stacks to Word documents 
would say "The application that created... could not be found."
Isn't this information stored in a resource? Why was it 
altered. I have been using drag-and-drop since, but it's a 
pain. How can I "teach" the computer to open them in whatever
application? I have Handoff, but I'd rather not install it,
as I'm low on memory. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance! 

-Scott J. Kleper
sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: harris@drvax3.msfc.nasa.gov (Mitch Harris)
Subject: 1 question about Swivel 3D - How are objects merged?
Keywords: Swivel 3D
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Date:  8 Sep 92 15:45:06 GMT

I searched all of news and this was the only group that had a referance
to Swivel 3D.  If there is a better place to post, please, let me know.

I have a Swivel 3D world with too many objects in it.  I would like to
merge 57 objects, that make up one 'next workstation,' into a single
object.  The manual dosen't help but it does show how to trace existing
objects to create new ones.

If there is a way to do this, might there also be a way to remove the
unviewable, internal polygons the merge creates?

If Swivel 3D can not do this is there a 3rd party product that does?

Mitch      drvax3!harris@freedom.msfc.nasa.gov

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(205)-544-2846                         |  700 Boulevard South, #401
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From: oueichek@ngulu (Ibaa Oueichek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Printers cost too much!
Date: 8 Sep 92 08:32:54 GMT
Organization: IMAG, University of Grenoble, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Kip.Kippley@macnet.omahug.org (Kip Kippley) writes:
: In averting the 1000s of Macs cost too much. NOT! posts, I started a new
: string. WARNING: ONLY DISCUSS LASER PRINTERS. No inkjets, no 24 pin printers.
: 
: In looking at the cost differences between Apple product and IBMs the issue of 
: printers always comes up. You can buy an Epson Laser Printer for around $800
: but a Personal Laserwriter NTR will run you $1500 in education circles. Are
: there other printers out there that are Appletalk compatible that are UNDER
: $1500??

  Well, it depends. There is the Apple Laserwriter LS, i thinks it's under $1200.
  Quality isn't perfect, printing is SLOW. But it's a laser printer for less than
  $1200. Now if you want better quality, you need to check PostScript printers,
  they are more expensive because you need to pay the Adobe PostScript licence
  fees. The Texas instruments microlaser is a cheap PostScript printer (i think
  you can have one for < $1300 at Mac&More. The MircoTek seems to be a good, fast
  not so expensive printer, it uses a PostScript clone developped by MS (i think).
  And it's Appletalk compatible (don't know about the TI microlaser). You can
  check the Sept issue of MacUser, they have a nice revure of personal Laser
  printers.

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From: lfreier@bach.helios.nd.edu (lynda freier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: How Many copies can you get from a Laserwriter IInt print drum
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:47:41 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
   How many copies cany you make from one Laserwriter IInt print drum?


Thanks in advance,
Joshua Freier
lfreier@bach.helios.nd.edu
lfreier@darwin.cc.nd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Re: Mac educational discount prices
Reply-To: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 05:03:28 GMT

Rugang Qi writes
> The Macintosh Student aid package here at Ohio State priced at :
> 
> $ 1408 for LC II (4/40)
> $ 1936 for IIsi (5/80)
> 
> can anyone provide price list  of educational discount for these
> at your school?
> 

At Stanford:

LC II 4/40 (w/ keyboard but not monitor) $ 987
IIsi 5/80 (ditto) $1554

12" mono monitor $189
12" color monitor $378
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Food Research Institute, Stanford University
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From: esrcn@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Tone)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: LaTeX
Date: 15 Sep 92 10:12:36 GMT
Reply-To: esrcn@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Tone)
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK
Originator: esrcn@clover

Sorry if this is a FAQ but does anybody know if a version of LaTeX is
available for the mac. Also, if one does exist are there any good PD /
shareware dvi or postscript viewers around. 

Cheers,

Tone.
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