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From: deang@netcom.com (Dean Grandquist)
Subject: Telnet and Ftp for a Netwar LAN
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 03:25:29 GMT
Organization: Spectrum HoloByte
Distribution: comp


Where can I get a telnet and ftp client for a Netware lan?
Please email replies, and I will post a summary if enough
people want it. Thanks

--dean grandquist
deang@netcom.com
Spectrum HoloByte
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.dcom.modems
From: kidder@epas.utoronto.ca (Richard Kidder)
Subject: Re: PC Fax Software for faxmodems: renewed request
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:03:06 GMT
Summary: Any experience with Caere or Calera's fax software?

I have been hoping that in the unraveling of one of the many threads
on this subject that someone would mention experiences with Caere or
Calera's Faxgrabber and FaxMaster(?) software. Anybody used these?
How do they compare to Eclipse which was mentioned here but not
described?

It seems that the feature sets on the modems are changing so rapidly
that the software might just not be able to keep up: frequently one
sees, as in the recent posting about the new and upcoming Supra roms,
that certain features, such as silent answer -- the ability to detect
and discriminate among incoming fax/data/voice calls -- have to be
supported by the communications software. Which software that is now
available can manage this?

Richard Kidder
kidder@epas.utoronto.ca
University of Toronto
From: txb31@isuvax.iastate.edu (Albert K.T.Tan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: What's wrong with my 386-DX
Date: 7 Sep 92 02:57:59 GMT
Reply-To: txb31@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa


	I have some trouble with my 386DX-16MHz computer. It was working fine
till I attempted to replace the IDE controller and hard drive by MFM controller
and hard drive. The system then broke down even I intalled back the IDE
controller and hard drive again.

	Now, whenever I switch on the computer, I can hear the hard drive is
running. Unfortunately, the system doesn't respond anymore. Since I don't hear
the sound of 'beep' from the speaker, I assume there is something wrong with
the motherboard. Then, I called the local dealer, they said they would charge
$50 per hour for the labor fee. The cost is enough for me to replace a new
board. Can someone tell me the possible reason to cause the computer down? i.e.
Does it possible that BIOS, Microprocessor, or RAM sets have been destroyed?
What I supposed to do?

	Please reply to my account txb31@isuvax.iastate.edu 

	Any comment and idea will be appreciated.

	Thanx.

Albert

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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Uninstalling Stacker.. grrrr...
Date: 7 Sep 92 22:00:35 GMT
Organization: Indiana University


Whats the approved method of doing this? I've had three self-avowed 
pirates call me in the last two weeks who installed Stacker on their
drives and had the machine crash. They couldn't un-install it. The 
first thing I asked was "Do you have the manual?" "Ummm.. no..."...
Resisting the urge to yell "You immoral software pirate you..." I had
to tell them that I didn't know how to do it since I don't have Stacker
myself. 

Is there a quick, approved way of un-stacking a drive?


Thanks!


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: ins132g@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Mike Battersby)
Subject: Re: Best modem program w/VT102 and zmodem transfers?
Organization: Monash University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 04:22:59 GMT

Jim Reisert (reisert@mast.enet.dec.com) wrote:
: In article <1992Sep4.164200.19456@cs.unca.edu>, boyd@cs.unca.edu (Mark Boyd) writes...
: >Mike Battersby (ins132g@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au) reponded to my
: >mskermit plug by asking:
: > 
: >>> Yeah, but mskermit (at least the version I'm running 3.11) won't
: >>> multitask under desqview! Arrgghhh! Is there a list of the proper
: >>> vt100 spec around somewhere, missing some of the functions when
: >>> multitasking is killing me!
: Kermit 3.12 is available for Beta Test, and fixes the DESQview problems.
: You  can  get  it  from  watsun.cc.columbia.edu,  I think in the kermit/test
: directory.  Look for MSTIBM.EXE.

Thanks!! (but I'll still reserve my "I'm SAVED" comments till I've
tried it out <grin!>)...

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         | Mike Battersby  |  ins132g@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au        |
         |-----------------------------------------------------------|
         | 'Female?' The Cat looked at Lister.                       |
         | 'Is that "female" as in "soft and squidgy"?' - Red Dwarf  |
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From: reisert@mast.enet.dec.com (Jim Reisert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Best modem program w/VT102 and zmodem transfers?
Date: 6 Sep 92 00:15:16 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation -- Maynard, MA


In article <1992Sep4.164200.19456@cs.unca.edu>, boyd@cs.unca.edu (Mark Boyd) writes...
>Mike Battersby (ins132g@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au) reponded to my
>mskermit plug by asking:
> 
>>> Yeah, but mskermit (at least the version I'm running 3.11) won't
>>> multitask under desqview! Arrgghhh! Is there a list of the proper
>>> vt100 spec around somewhere, missing some of the functions when
>>> multitasking is killing me!
Kermit 3.12 is available for Beta Test, and fixes the DESQview problems.
You  can  get  it  from  watsun.cc.columbia.edu,  I think in the kermit/test
directory.  Look for MSTIBM.EXE.

- Jim

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: robelr@ucs.indiana.edu (Allen Robel)
Subject: POSITION AVAILABLE ~ $45K depending on experience
Reply-To: robelr@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:38:33 GMT

We are trying to track down a bright, hardworking, envisioned manager to
guide and improve our public computing sites. 

Bloomington is a nice place to live and the staff at UCS are a good group
to work with.  If you have any questions, please give me a call
(812-855-4810) or send email to vernon@ucs.indiana.edu

Thanks, 

Dave Vernon
Associate Director of Workstation Systems
University Computing Services
Indiana University
Internet: vernon@ucs.indiana.edu
Phone: 812-855-4810

JOB DESCRIPTION:

Manager, Public Computing Facilities                        
 
Manages all aspects of the University Computing Services (UCS) Public
Computing Facilities program encompassing over 40 computing labs,
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Staffing in this area includes 6 full-time professional staff, 7 full-time
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QUALIFICATIONS: Bachelors degree and at least 4 years related experience,
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Successful
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background managing large scale computer system design and implementation
projects. 

Salary: ~$45,000 (based on experience, etc...) 

Send Resumes to:
Human Resources Management
Indiana University
400 East 7th Street,
Bloomington, IN  47405

For additional job information please contact:

Dave Vernon
Associate Director of Workstation Systems
Internet: vernon@ucs.indiana.edu
Phone: 812-855-4810
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: mfrazer@scott.skidmore.edu (Matthew Frazer)
Subject: EISA Board Compatibility
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:32:26 GMT

EISA Boards have faster bus speeds to the card slots, but do I need to
buy all new EISA compatible cards, or can I use my old
cards in the EISA slots?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,bnr.sys.pc,comp.sys.ibm.pc
From: mcdorman@bnr.ca (Doug McDorman)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Low-level disk formatter
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:18:04 GMT

Norm MacNeil (norm@bnr.ca) wrote:
: the "FORMAT" command doesn't do this.  So the question is, where do I get a
: low-level hard disk formatter?

  The low level format routine is often available on the controller
card for the hard disk, I can't remember the sequence to get to it
but it is usually pretty standard for most MFM or RLL drives.
  Zenith DOS often comes with a low level format routine of it's own.

*** WARNING *** As far as I know you should never low level format
an IDE drive, probably the only exception is if you have a program
to do from the manufacturer for that specific model.
  If you do low level format an IDE drive you will likely have to send
it back to the manufacturer to have a proper low level format done.

/Doug
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: jlaiho@ichaos.nullnet.fi (Juha Laiho)
Subject: Re: Effects of power-cycl
Organization: NullNet r.y.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 21:32:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep06.161317.27531@rose.com> bohdan.kiszczuk@rose.com (bohdan kiszczuk) writes:
>
>If you use a color monitor, screen blankers do not extend the life of 
>the CRT. On mono monitors their is something called screen burn that 
>does not happen on color monitors.

I'd like to correct you on this. Screen burn happens on color monitors, too.
The process is just very much slower than in mono monitors, so you may not
have seen it yet. Also, people w color monitors tend to run much bigger variety
of sw than ppl w mono monitors. Thus there's no single picture to burn itself
to the crt, and the crt wears off more evenly.

..Wolf
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.com (Jim Reisert)
Subject: Re: Borland C++ vs Turbo C++
Reply-To: reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.com (Jim Reisert)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation -- Maynard, MA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 16:33:39 GMT


In article <exuptr.499.716165169@exu.ericsson.se>, exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (exuptr@exu.ericsson.se) writes:

> Turbo C++ *Professional* ALSO has stand-alone debuggers and profilers and
> assemblers.

Turbo C++ Professional is no longer available, having been replaced by
Borland C++.

You can buy Turbo C++ and TurboVision (separate package) to create DOS
programs.  Turbo C++ has a built-in assembler (pretty sure), debugger
and profiler (not so sure).  Borland C++ has all this and more

- Jim

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: EISA Board Compatibility
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:02:11 GMT

In <1992Sep11.131232.7977@scott.skidmore.edu> pvonk@scott.skidmore.edu (Pierre VonKaenel) writes:

>In article <1992Sep10.183339.18855@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>>In <1992Sep8.173226.10860@scott.skidmore.edu> mfrazer@scott.skidmore.edu (Matthew Frazer) writes:
>>
>>>EISA Boards have faster bus speeds to the card slots, but do I need to
>>>buy all new EISA compatible cards, or can I use my old
>>>cards in the EISA slots?
>>
>>They are not significantly faster (8.33 MHz vice 8 MHz).  The whole
>                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>idea behind EISA was that you could plug all your old cards into it
>>and they would work.  They do.  There are, in fact, some things that
>>you would be hard pressed to find an EISA card for.

>Now I *am* confused!  I thought I just read a long thread last month
>about EISA and how much faster the bus is, but some folks were worried
>that putting an ISA card in the EISA machine would slow down that bus.
>8.33 vs. 8 doesn't seem that much faster, and I'd swear the numbers
>used for EISA were much higher.  Anyone?......

This is one of those urban myths.  Transfers for EISA cards in EISA
slots are much faster because you can do 32-bit wide transfers.
Hence, the burst bandwidth is 33 Megabyte/sec (4 byte wide by 8.3
MHz clock -- someone else recently posted that the actual EISA clock
speed is 8.25 MHz).  Plugging ISA boards into an EISA bus doesn't slow
down anything, except that that board will run slower than an
equivalent EISA board would.


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From: n65j@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Borland C++ vs Turbo C++
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:18:48 EDT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell University

In article <1992Sep10.150327.12901@cbfsb.cb.att.com>,
mbb@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (martin.brilliant) writes: 
> From article <1992Sep8.170415.24800@bluemtn.COM>, by gregp@bluemtn.COM (Greg Philmon):
>> ....
>> BC includes more powerful, standalone tools for developing, such as the 
>> excellent Turbo Debugger, profiler, etc.  BC is an optimizing (sp?) compiler,
>> TC is not.
> 
> I'm confused.  Maybe that only applies to the current release.  I bought
> a used copy of Turbo C++ 1.0 which includes debugger, profiles, and
> assembler, and I think it has optimization in the compiler.  I know
> it's "Turbo," not "Borland," because I have to change "bcc" to "tcc"
> in makefiles.
> 
> 							Marty
> marty@hoqaa.att.com		hoqaa!marty
> Martin B. Brilliant		(Winnertech Corporation)
From: alberti@ux.acs.umn.edu (Timothy Fay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Stearns PC
Date: 11 Sep 92 05:15:25 GMT
Organization: Revolutionary Anarchist Bowling League
Originator: alberti@epx.cis.umn.edu

I recently came into possession of an old Stearns PC (8086) clone.
When I turn the power on, a couple of LED's light up on the motherboard
and memory board, then the drives start, briefly, but the machine does
not boot up, the keyboard does not respond, and nothing appears on the
monitor.

I know this is a rather broad question, but I'd appeciate any and all
hints, plus possible sources for information (my efforts to contact
the manufacturer have not produced any results as of yet).

Please e-mail responses to the address, below.  Thanks in advance!

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From: Gordon.Edwards@AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Gordon Edwards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Opinions on Stacker
Date: 6 Sep 92 02:31:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

What are people's opinions on Stacker?

Are there many horror stories or is it generally pretty stable software?

Any comments appreciated.  
Please post, I'm sure others are interested.

-- Gordon

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From: n65j@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Magazine subscription... suggestions?
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:16:15 EDT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell University

In article <BuDL56.HwD@cs.dal.ca>,
pomakis@ug.cs.dal.ca (Keith Pomakis) writes: 
> Hi.
> 
> I am planning on subscribing to a computer magazine, but I'm having trouble
> deciding which magazine to subscribe to.  I own a 486DX PC, so I'm obviously
> interested in getting articles, software reviews, etc., on the subject of PC
> computers.  However, I'm also interested in receiving news and info on other
> systems such as Mac, Unix, etc.
> 
> I find that most of the magazines I see on the shelf are 90% advertisements and
> software/hardware reviews.  I would like to subscribe to a magazine that
> actually contains some good articles.  I want to know what's happening out
> there.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> ---
> Keith Pomakis
> pomakis@ug.cs.dal.ca

If you're interested in diverse small computers (including Unix supermicros)
probably Byte would be a good choice.  It has faded some from past glory, now
devoting a lot of space to advertising and buyers' guide reviews for business
applications, but they have two advantages over something like PC Magazine:

1. Coverage of a variety of hardware platforms.  PC's seem to be covered
most.

2. Coverage of general technical developments, both hardware and software.
I learned here about Pascal, Lisp, Smalltalk, and a lot of other software
tools before they became popular.  They also have very good hardware technology
articles.  Regular stuff about new microprocessors, LAN technologies, you
name it.

BYTE should be available on newsstands in the .ca domain.

-- regards, S Pacenka, Cornell Univ.
(no association with Byte, beyond being a reader since the 1970's)
From: gwni@troi.cc.rochester.edu (G. Wayne Nichols)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: SUPERSTOR
Date: 12 Sep 92 17:52:49 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <Jim_Johnson.08ju@abcd.Houghton.MI.US> Jim_Johnson@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Jim Johnson) writes:

>Until I recently purchased a much larger HD, I ran the version of SuperStor
>included with DRDOS 6.0.  In fact, I was running it on a 20meg parallel
>port connected HD.  It ran just fine.  DRDOS 6.0 documentation does warn
>you against using any disk optimization software other than DISKOPT (comes
>with DRDOS 6.0) on the SuperStor partition.  I personnally like Norton, but
>it was a small price for what I gained in disk space.

While totally ignoring such warnings, I have successfully used
PC Tools' COMPRESS utility on a SuperStor'ed drive many times.
I imagine Norton's SPEEDISK would be equally successful.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: lsrgd@warwick.ac.uk (Mr R D Williams)
Subject: Wang PCs / WEMM386
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 14:01:03 GMT

Does anyone have any experience with the WEMM386 memory manager that comes
bundled with Wang PCs? It appears to be able to replace HIMEM.SYS and the
Microsoft EMM386, but being largely ignorant of the mysteries of DOS memory
management, I don't know what the relative advantages/disadvantages of
using the Wang software are. Can anybody help?

BTW, is Wang now completely defunct or just in a lot of trouble? And is there
anything non-standard about the Wang PC hardware that could cause problems
with upgrades/maintenance without the help of the company?

Richard.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: 3-chip SIMMs
From: cctr132@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:07:45 GMT
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <lentz.716563414@charm.gandalf.ca>, lentz@gandalf.ca
(Jim Lentz (Wheeling Tech Support)) writes:
>  Anyone successfully use the (new) 3 chip SIMMs in their PC? I
> tried them in mine and they weren't even close to working. I
> bought them at Frys with the understanding that I could return 
> them if they didn't work. They are significantly cheaper than
> the standard 9 chip 1 meg SIMMs but aren't much good if they
> don't work. I tried every CMOS parameter I could think of but
> the PC would not boot at all with the 3 chip SIMMs.

I've seen them in a few new machines here, where they worked fine, but
we found they wouldn't work in an old-ish AT clone with an Award BIOS (I
don't know whether that is relevant or not!) - 9-chip SIMMs with same
speed rating worked fine in that machine.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: e_p@unlinfo.unl.edu (edgar pearlstein)
Subject: QuickBasic vs. VisualBasic. Comparison?
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Distribution: global
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:42:27 GMT



          I would like to see a comparison of QuickBasic and 
       VisualBasic (both from Microsoft), beyond all of the 
       bells and whistles that VBasic has.  
          How do they compare with regard to straight Basic 
       programming? 
          Is either one of them faster in compiling or execution?
          Is it true that VB demands more careful structuring of a 
       program?  I.e. is QB more forgiving of slight errors?   
          After compiling, do they give exactly the same code?

       Either post answers or send e-mail to e_p@unlinfo.unl.edu
                  
                     Ed Pearlstein
From: csas400@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Using emacs under NCSA telnet
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:20:27 -0600
Distribution: il
Organization: Minnesota State University System

In article <Bu2I2o.H7x@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tony@director.beckman.uiuc.edu (Tony Rimovsky) writes:
> marca@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Marc Andreessen) writes:
> 
>>   I am trying to use emacs under NCSA telnet, but I can no longer
>>   make marks, either with Ctrl-SPACE or CTRL-@. Any suggestions?
> 
>>ESC x set-mark-command is one possibility...
> 
> Actually, I have been wondering if there is a known problem between NCSA
> telnet (DOS) and emacs.  I know of two different people who are having this
> same problem and others, but only with NCSA's telnet.  
> 
> Is this a known problem?  Is there a fix?
> Tony
Strange!  I'm using NCSA telnet version 2.3.03 7/23/91 right now and GNU
Emacs version 18.58.6 4/10/92 and Cntrl-@ works just for for set-mark.

				-Jeffrey E. Hundstad
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: adelle@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (adelle.s.Petrocco)
Subject: Re: File called "SUICIDE.IBM"
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 13:23:57 GMT

Can't it just be copied to a floppy disk and looked at on a
system that has two floppy drives and no hard drive?  That way
it can't destroy files on a hard drive if there isn't one.

Adelle
adelle@cbnewsh.att.com 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.dcom.modems