From: ibanez@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman, Hellblazer, and Hell
Date: 14 Dec 92 10:48:45 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <Bz8JBL.7zA@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:
> upham@cs.ubc.ca (Derek Upham) writes:
> 
>>Comments?
> 
> 
> Well, I e-mailed Jaques with my version of this answer, and
> didn't think to post it, so here's my bit for the net.  From what
> I understand from the recent Hellblazer issues, Satan is the 
> ther other side of the coin to God.  He was already in Hell when
> the Morningstar fell.  Hell had to exist, becasue Heaven needs a shadow.
> 
> They way I see things (My Opinion starts here, fellow campers),
> Heaven and Hell, God and Satan, are the two halves that make up
> the whole.  I don't think God created Satan.  I think they must have
> come into existance at the same time, becasue Good and Evil can't
> exist without one another.  They have no meaning seperate.  The
> Supremem Being is not Good or Evil, but is the Whole.  Kinda Tao,
> but that's the way I see things.
> 
> Anyway, back to Hellbalzer and Sandman and DC's Hell
> in general.  I think Satan and God are equal, but it should be
> noted that Heaven and Hell in the DC universe, especially as
> they are portrayed in Hellblazer, are not the same as the biblical
> polarities.  Hell wasn't created for sinners, sinners end up their
> becasue they *Believe* they should end up there, hence they do.

  I don't have my issues on hand, but I thought that it was either
stated or indicated that Lucifer was more powerful than Satan. Satan
could not take on the other two members of the triumverate alone and
survive, but Lucifer probably could. 

   Along the same lines, was it ever stated why Satan would allow
Lucifer to rule Hell? It seems to me that it was due to Satan's 
lesser power. If Lucifer isn't as powerful as God, Satan shouldn't be
seen as God's equal - though he may well be his polar opposite.

> 
> Heaven is anything but forgiving and merciful, and all togetehr
> too caught up in the bloody war with Hell (look at how they dealt
> with Chantinelle and Tali's child).
> 
> Personally, I think John wants to nail the Snob.  He's already got
> Hell gunning for his arse, why not even things up by getting the Other
> Side after him as well?  It seems his style.  But that's pure spec.
> I'd like to see the head angel get his arse whipped, personally....

  Ok, I may be missing something, but does anyone know who the Snob is?
I assumed he was an angel of some sorts. Opinions anyone?

> 
> 
> LJC
>>=============================================================================
>>"Ha!  Your Leaping Tiger Kung Fu is no match for my Frightened Piglet Style!"
> 
> Ranma 1/2 or just kung-fu silliness?  Enquiring minds (mine anyhow) wann know
> -- 
> Lady Johanna Constantine | "When you remove the pin, Mr Hand
> tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu    |  Grenade is no longer your friend"
> Founder of the Church of Our Lady of the Perpetually Clueless
> Disclaimer: The U of I doesn't give a damn or blast WHAT I do
-- 
                             Jamie Lauchlan 
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