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From: geis@miles.com (Jerry Geis)
Subject: Displaying grahpic cahracters under 4.0.0 with kermit and ckermit?
Organization: Miles Inc., Diagnostics Division, Elkhart, IN
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 12:37:27 GMT

I am connecting two pc's both running coherent 4.0.0 through
the serial ports. using both kermit and ckermit connect to 
the respective pc just fine BUT when I run an application
that trys to display GRAPHIC characters the characters are
displayed as normal text. Example instead of displaying a horizontal
line character it displays a capital M. the only difference
between these two characters is the most significant bit of the
character. Why is kermit and ckermit always setting this bit
to ZERO! My question is how can I tell kermit and ckermit NOT
to set this bit to zero????

NOTE: I tried stty -Istrip and it made no difference...

	jerry		geis@miles.com


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From: branagh@cs.mcgill.ca (Wayne BRANAGH)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Not enough permissions for root?
Date: 25 Jan 93 01:19:09 GMT
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada

In article <9301212234.02@rmkhome.UUCP> rmkhome!rmk@merk.com (Rick Kelly) writes:
>In article <9301191709.25@phzzzt.uucp> mfaurot@phzzzt.uucp (Michael Faurot) writes:
>>messina@netcom.com (Tony Porczyk) writes:
>>: 
>>: I may be confused, but shouldn't 'root' be able to read and see
>>: ALL files on the system (outside of crypted ones, of course)? 
>>: Well, when I go into the directory /usr/man/COHERENT my ls
>>: aborts and says I don't have permissions as root to see any
>>: files.  When I execute ls from above (usr/man) into that
>>: directory, it works just fine.  Anyone has an explanation for
>>: that?  (Yes, I know user bin will work fine).
>>
>>What's happening is that when you type "ls" from within the directory 
>>/usr/man/COHERENT the man page file "ls" is being found before the
>>binary /bin/ls.  If you type /bin/ls from within there this will work
>>instead.  The same thing will happen if you attempt to change root's
>>password when logged to the /etc directory and try to run the "passwd"
>>program.
>
>
>I just did a cd /usr/man/COHERENT, and then an ls, and it worked.
>
	The problem only seems to happen if you have ksh loaded as a second
	shell. If you boot with sh or ksh there's no problem. Try again
	after loading a second ksh. I have the same problem on my
	system (as do others who have tried it).   

	Cheers,

	Wayne
	branagh@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca 
	branagh@omc.lan.mcgill.ca
From: kenji@reseau.rd.macrofield.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Coherent DDK Kernel (4.0.1r68+) known problems
Date: 21 Jan 93 01:14:56 GMT
Reply-To: kenji@rd.macrofield.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake)
Organization: Macrofield Corporation, Toyonaka-City, Osaka, Japan
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

La Monte Yarroll (piggy@hilbert.cc.utas.edu.au) wrote:
: The correct solution SHOULD be to set SIGCHLD to SIG_DFL.  If SIGCHLD
: is set to SIG_DFL, the kernel will not actually send the signal.
: Setting it to SIG_IGN means that you will never get zombie children
: (i.e. wait() will never give you back a return status).

You're right. I experienced that subshell invoked from tin never returned
to the tin after it exited, by setting SIGCHLD to SIG_IGN. 

Use SIG_DFL for SIGCHLD.

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office: <kenji@rcac.astem.or.jp> / home: <kenji@rd.macrofield.or.jp> 
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From: fredex@fcshome.UUCP (fred smith)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: How can I remove virtual consoles?
Date: 21 Jan 93 12:47:54 GMT
Organization: What?!? Absolutely none!
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

I4AQ (I4AQ@MUSICT.MCGILL.CA) wrote:
: I leafed through that Coherent book (which might use a more complete
: index...) and found no information on how to remove virtual consoles.
: How can I patch my kernel to remove them?  I want to the the
: /dev/console device...

: Yves Lachance,
: Montreal, Canada.

Check out the section near the end of the 4.0 installation document.
There is a bunch of info there that tells you how to configure your
virtual consoles. I followed it and was able to get nine (yes, 9) of
them going on my color console. You should be just as easily able to
reduce the number of virtual consoles if you follow the instructions
carefully.

What I fail to comprehend is why you would want FEWER login devices
available.

good luck!

Fred
From: magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: System Crashes with Ckermit
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Organization: DarkTower Software
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 16:50:35 CST

A further update...

I messed around with Ckermit today, and I found out how to
get it to crash.

"set file names literal" does the trick.  If I run it with
file names converted, it does transfers fine, but when it
sends literal file names it bombs bigtime.  This is with an r68+ kernel
from the DDK.

I'm afraid to find out why.

-Louis



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From: magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: UUCP on disabled port
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Organization: DarkTower Software
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 20:54:06 CST

Keith Lovatt (klovatt@klnet.UUCP) wrote:

: On my system I wish to set up a direct connection for UUCP with another
: system. However, I do not wish the port to be enabled. i.e. I want
: uucico to make the UUCP connection, do the dirty work, drop the connection,
: then leave the port disabled. Whatevere I try, I always get the port
: ending up enabled, then the two systems go crazy giving each other "login:"
: and "password:" prompts. This seems like a "slight" problem with uucico.
: Anybody have any ideas?

This is only in Coherent's uucico.  If you use taylor, you don't get
this problem.

One quick fix is to make a shell script like this:

uucico -ssomesys
/etc/disable /dev/com1l (or whatever com is being used)

and use that instead of uucico directly.  You could make it fancier
so that a variable is used instead of the system name "somesys" and
a variable for the port name, as well.  The point is that you call
disable right after uucico.

I was kinda peeved at the fact uucico liked to re-enable ports, too.
I don't know why it does this.  It should check to see if it was
enabled in the first place and return it to whatever state it was in.  You
could make a shell script to do that as well.

-Louis


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From: gilly!dave@quack.UB.com (Dave Fischer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: chroot() under Coh 3.2
Date: 26 Jan 1993 02:19:55 -0600
Organization: Spiders From Mars net
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hello all. Ran into some weird behaviour with chroot()ing
under Coh 3.2, wondering if anyone else has dealt with it...

chroot() seems to work - I managed to create a "virtual" root
system with a minimal but functional environment, logins, and
email back to the real world, *but* it's possible to break out 
by going to the virtual-root directory and referencing "..".

I suppose I could manually go in and make ".." point elsewhere,
but I was hoping there was a cleaner solution - one which
would allow the virtual system to remain a normal directory
tree in the eyes of the real system...

Anyone else use chroot()?



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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: klovatt@klnet.UUCP (Keith Lovatt)
Subject: UUCP on disabled port
Organization: Lugroid Enterprises
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 01:58:06 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


On my system I wish to set up a direct connection for UUCP with another
system. However, I do not wish the port to be enabled. i.e. I want
uucico to make the UUCP connection, do the dirty work, drop the connection,
then leave the port disabled. Whatevere I try, I always get the port
ending up enabled, then the two systems go crazy giving each other "login:"
and "password:" prompts. This seems like a "slight" problem with uucico.
Anybody have any ideas?

Thanks,
	Keith.
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From: wbdst+@PITT.EDU (William B Dwinnell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Coherent recommendations
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:54:06 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@INDYCMS.bitnet>

P
Okay, I have gotten about 10 responses to my query regarding whether people
would recommend Coherent as an OS or not.  I haven't kept strict numbers,
although I can say for certain that 3 people gave negative responses,
while the rest were positive (approx. 2 to 1 for). The biggest
criticisms were against technical support and problems with the software
(bad installs, and a harddrive performance, especially). Ironically,
some of the biggest praise was for technical support! Also mentioned
as pros were ease of installation (one person didn't even use the
manual), stability, even relative to other OSs, Unix or otherwise,
and documentation quality.

As for myself, I had specific concerns, so I called Mark Williams, with
the following questions, and MWC's responses:
Q. Do you support HardCard II's?
A. Yes.

Q. Any problems with DTK BIOS?
A. No.

Q. Future Domain SCSI cards alright?
A. Yes.

Q. SyQuest reomxxx removable media okay?
A. Yes, although you'll have to mount and dismount to change
   cartridges.

Q. DOS and Coherent can coexist?
A. Yes: they must have their own partitions, and how you boot up can
be configured a number of ways.

The above are not verbatim, but accurately reflect the information I
was given over 2 calls to MWC.

Information was not available on release dates for the next release
(although I was told it would be this year.), nor pricing on the
new release/upgrade.

If anyone has any information to the contrary of any of this, please
post it?
From: bob@DALEK.MWC.COM (Bob Hemedinger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: what protocols does uucico support?
Date: 28 Jan 93 16:59:59 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@INDYCMS.bitnet>

>
> Other than 'g', what protocols does the Coherent uucico support?
> --
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>
Zip, none, null, absolute zero.

They ported Taylor package (version 1.04Beta is on mwcbbs) will give you
f, i, and others as well as g.
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From: stephan@forthdv.rmt.sub.org (Stephan Forth)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: wnews 3.1 error
Keywords: 
Summary: 
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Organization: Forthdv
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 11:07:07 GMT

Hi networld,

every now and then I get an active file error. One or more lines in the
/usr/lib/news/active file are damaged. It looks like that:

sci.physics0000214 00202 y

but it should look like this one:

sci.physics 00214 00202 y

Does anybody has the same problem??

Any help is welcome...Regards Stephan
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From: magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: wnews questions
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Organization: DarkTower Software
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 09:59:05 CST

Marcelo Gallardo (marcelo@deadzone.princeton.edu) wrote:

: 	I just installed wnews and afetr dumping some news to it i found
: 	the following message (repeated numerous times) in the errlog
: 	file...
: 	ng junk not localized, article is lost
: 	Can someone give me a hint as to what to do.

su news
cd /usr/lib/news
newgroup junk
<CR>
Junk heap
<CR>


(Note: <CR> means hit return on a blank line)

This is also a handy way to add newsgroups by hand.   Just do

newgroup <name of group>
<CR>
<Description of newsgroup>
<CR>

: 	Thanks in advance.
: 	Marcelo -

You're welcome!  This is not an error per se.  Junk holds all the news
that get shipped to your system that you don't want.  For example, 
say you get alt.hackers and an article is cross-posted to alt.hackers
and alt.hackers.destructive.  You don't get alt.hackers.destructive, so
1 copy goes into alt.hackers and 1 copy goes into junk.

You don't need junk if you don't want it.  I have it so I can
easily monitor what's being thrown away (by reading newsgroup junk).

-Louis

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From: sjsobol@waffle.tiny.com (Steven J. Sobol)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: R70 crash with AMI 12/15/89 Bios
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 17:17:52 EST
Organization: The Tiny Software Company, Cleveland, OH

I installed the r70 kernel and the taylor UUCP beta. Under r70 both
Coherent UUCP and the taylor port crashed with segmentation violations.

My computer:

  -- AMI 386-SX BIOS, dated 12/15/89
  -- 2 MB RAM
  -- Coherent occupies 20 MB partition on a 45 MB IDE hard drive
  -- four serial ports, one hooked up to a vt102 and two of the others
     hooked up to modems (all 8250/16450 UART'S)

  As soon as I can find my master disks (or borrow a set :) I'm going
  to re-install -- since I don't have the DDK -- and see if taylor works
  by itself.

Anyone else have problems with a similar setup?

(Note: I had a multifunction card die recently, so I'm wondering if the
 software problem isn't related to some hardware problem...)



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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: hcp@csx.cciw.ca (H.C. Pulley)
Subject: Re: UUCP on disabled port
Organization: Canada Centre for Inland Waters
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 14:13:04 GMT

I have never had this problem.  This is because, for security reasons, 
/etc/disable and /etc/enable are both set to 500 permissions.  I don't want any
old user to be able to enable/disable ports.

Since uucico runs as user uucp, it cannot run /etc/enable upon exit.  uucico
still runs fine and my lines are not messed up.

Harry

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From: dfilip@COLORNET.COM
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Terminal question
Date: 24 Jan 93 14:31:16 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@INDYCMS.bitnet>

Mike Tarrant writes :
>  My question is, at a system level, how does Coherent "know" that the
>terminal at the end of /dev/com4pl is a vt100, or a wyse50, or tvi925?
>I know there is the TERM environmental variable in my .profile file,
>but if I make that the terminal type, it'll be wrong when I log-on at
>the console (ansipc).
>  As far I have been able to determine, terminal type is tied to the
>user, and I think it should be known only by the system.  What am I
>missing?

You are not missing anything. Unfortunatly, I have not seen anything in the
Unix world that querries terminals type as is found in VAX/VMS (where you
can do SET TERM/INQUIRE which will send some escape sequences out, look at
what comes back, and try to determine what type of terminal you have).

In the Xenix (and I believe BSD) world, there is the cryptic tset command,
which uses the file /etc/ttytype to do some mapping of lines to terminals,
and also prompts for terminals on 'dial-up' lines. Here is what I have put in
my /etc/profile to sort of emulate that :

===========================================================================
defterm=vt100

# determine terminal type

device=`tty`
termtype=`grep $device /etc/ttytype | awk '{print $1}'`
if [ -z "$termtype" -o "$termtype" = "dialup" -a "$USER" != "nuucp" ]
then
        echo -n "Terminal type [$defterm] : "
        read termtype
        if [ -z "$termtype" ]
        then
                export TERM=$defterm
        else
                export TERM=$termtype
        fi
else
        export TERM=$termtype
fi
===========================================================================

And my /etc/ttytype looks like this :

ansipc /dev/color0
ansipc /dev/color1
ansipc /dev/color2
ansipc /dev/color3
dialup /dev/com1fr
vt100  /dev/com2l
dialup /dev/com3l
dialup /dev/com4l

This maps terminals to lines, which is closer than terminals to users. However,
for network and/or dial-in lines, it will prompt the user, and the user must
know what the designation is in your /etc/termcap.

Regards,

Dave.

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From: bob@DALEK.MWC.COM (Bob Hemedinger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: UUCP on disabled port
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:19:24 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@INDYCMS.bitnet>

>
> fred smith (fredex@fcshome.UUCP) wrote:
> : Louis Giliberto (magus@drktowr.chi.il.us) wrote:
> : : Keith Lovatt (klovatt@klnet.UUCP) wrote:
>
> : : : On my system I wish to set up a direct connection for UUCP with another
> : : : system. However, I do not wish the port to be enabled. i.e. I want
> : : : uucico to make the UUCP connection, do the dirty work, drop the
>  connection,
> : : : then leave the port disabled. Whatevere I try, I always get the port
> : : : ending up enabled, then the two systems go crazy giving each other
>  "login:"
> : : : and "password:" prompts. This seems like a "slight" problem with uucico.
> : : : Anybody have any ideas?

Look at the ACU entry in L-devices. If a remote device was specified, then
this is causing your problem. Change that field to a '-' and all will be well.

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From: mooreb@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Graphica (information)
Date: 28 Jan 93 02:19:55 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@INDYCMS.bitnet>

The following uuencoded programs are for GRAPHICA v.2.1 for Coherent.
GRAPHICA is an interactive plotting program that does a lot of neat
stuff.  Just extract the files in order (21 through 27 and the readme
first file) and uudecode the resulting concatedated file. I am posting
for Tony Montes.  His name and address are in the readme. file.  Send
him comments!!! Thanks!

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: ray@rgm.com (Ray Mendonsa)
Subject: xmail
Organization: RGM *nix - Sacramento, CA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 06:59:36 GMT


I'm a Coherent v4.0 sysop, and I like public-key cryptography.

My question:

    The Coherent installation creates /usr/spool/pubkey, and /bin/mail
seems to have some sort of interface to an unspecified and undocumented
public key crypto system.  Is this a hook for RIPEM or PGP? (which BTW
I've been unable to compile under Coh)  Is it a hook to another piece
of software?  Any and all info would be appreciated.

Thanks!
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From: P_EDGERTON@utpb.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Coherent graphics
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:20:00 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

Will someone please tell me how to get to RAVEN.
Thanks Pat Edgerton
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent