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From: rxkgre@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Geof Evans)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Mac and Jardine Exhausts - opinions
Date: 31 Jul 92 00:49:49 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

ggrevera@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (George Grevera) writes:

>Hi.  Mac and Jardine seem to be the only companies that offer exhausts for
>my '81 Honda CB650.  I was wondering if anyone had experience with these
>exhausts to help me choose between them.  Thanks.

>George
>ggrevera@gradient.cis.upenn.edu

<<<* I had a set of Jardine Turnouts (mit crossover) on my GS750-L
     which improved grunt (down low in *particular*) sounded GREAT
     and looked *cool*.....heartilly recommended if avail.for CB650.
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From: brad@spike.tcs.com (Brad Whitaker)
Subject: Re: Nicest Interstate
Organization: Teknekron Communications Systems Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:33:42 GMT


The Nicest Interstate is the one that is keeping all of the trucks
and cages off of the great two lane highway you're riding on.




____
Brad Whitaker  Teknekron Communication Systems, Inc.   Berkeley, CA USA
brad@tcs.com             (510)649-3815                         DoD#1000  
"If the line wiggles, that's good." - Robert Pirsig            CBR 1000
From: ops@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Another question..(about Savage 650)
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:52:09 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAXcluster


 
> now, a question for you:  are they sold new in the UK (haven't been sold
> here since 1988), and do the new ones have 5 gears?


 yes and yes....
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Help identifying farm bike
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:46:10 GMT

leung@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Bruce Leung) writes:
>laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott) writes:

>>hey bruce, next time we meet in moab it'll be a bevy of
>>boxers :-)  (hi, blaine!)

>But are we going to have to put up with those un-enlightened FJ owners?

No, only the enlightened FJ owners that also own lumpy-tired vehicles.

><asbestos shields up>

Don't worry, no offense taken. BTW, I know this nice little trail that
would be perfect for BMWs. It's called Pritchett Canyon, you'll love it.
Trust me.

Of course, you G/S and P-D types realize that if you don't show up for
the next Moab trip, you will be taunted without mercy.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
From: davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley riders waved !!!
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:35:38 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Tektronix - Colorado Data Systems, Englewood, CO

In article <1992Jul22.184655.9062@c3.PLA.CA.US> niall@c3.PLA.CA.US (Neal Bedard) writes:
>In article <14hchcINNlpi@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@East.Sun.COM writes:
>>In article 61@oregon.uoregon.edu, sallyg@oregon.uoregon.edu (George, Sally) writes:
>>>A Harley, is a Harley, is a Harley!  
>>Unless it's a Buell.
>
>Or a Rotax.
>
Or an Aermacchi.

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From: mick@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Subject: Re: I want 2B DoD #1428
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:27:08 GMT

Somewhere, Sometime, Thus Spake aki@nimbus@UUNET.UU.NET:
:- >In article <1992Jul23.175800.19405@worldbank.org> aki@nimbus@UUNET.UU.NET
:- writes:
:- >
:- >Denizen Oder,  the smell of the Tepee of Legend (tm) after sunday
:- 
:- ah-hem ..that's ODOR..
:- 

	well, well... and i always thought it was ODOUR!


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From: jlp@blink.att.com (Jon Peticolas(x7058))
Subject: Re: Harley riders waved !!!
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:26:42 GMT

kenoyer@cujo.enet.dec.com (Greg Kenoyer, Contract Spook) writes:


>In article <IeP8BdC00WBO43ypsK@andrew.cmu.edu>, "Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes...
>	:
>>thing is, i don't know how to vote.  would you care to come out of your
>>usually negative shell and post something constructive for once?  thanks.

>    damn, pete, you must not read very well either.  maybe that translator
>    will help.

>    in one of the recent issues (actually, in a couple) from hogaholics
>    there were directions on how to vote.

>    it was something like 'send mail to "yes@somenode.somewhere" for yes',
>    or                    'send mail to "no@somenode.somewhere" for no'.

     To cast a vote FOR creation of this group, send a mail message
     indicating this to: harley-yes@wk42.nas.nasa.gov

     To cast a vote AGAINST the creation of this group, send a mail message
     indicating this to: harley-no@wk42.nas.nasa.gov

In case it hasn't been clear from the focus of the debate, the proposal
is as follows.

rec.motorcycles.harley 
  Group Charter: 
    Rec.motorcycles.harley is for discussion of all aspects of
    Harley-Davidson motorcycles and of the people who ride them.

    Topics include technical tips, ride reports, product and new
    model reviews, and announcements of upcoming rides.

    This is an unmoderated newsgroup.
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From: jamesf@btr.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Brake bleeding.
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:24:18 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM

In article <1992Jul23.170250.10237@rchland.ibm.com> Pooder@vnet.ibm.com, but I can't receive e-mail, so forget it. writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.142708.4318@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, wsh8z@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (William Scott Heyman) writes:
>|> I bled my front disc breaks for the first time yesterday. Now the
>|> breaks aren't spongy but they have more travel then they used to.
>|> I bled them a lot and they refused to get tighter.
... 
>No, seriously, after the air is bled out, the lever travel will be longer,
>but it should return to normal after a few squeezes.  Try pumping the lever 
>a few times.  If there's air left in the system, they *will* feel spongy, 
>so that's not the problem.  Is the brake fluid topped off?  Did you do 
>anything else to the brakes?

I have the same problem with my brakes. I bled about 1 1/2 cans of fluid
through them and although the squishyness can be attributed to the rubber
hoses, the brake fluid refuses to displace the worn pads. There is almost
2mm of space between the pads and the rotor. I'm afraid one day that I'll
use up all available lever travel and not be able to have the fluid displace
the pads. I rebuilt both caliper and master cylinder. All the cages I've
worked on have worked fine after a few pumps. I'm so aggravated at it taht
I'm not going to worry about it until the pads wear some more (they're new,
and haven't worn to the rotor yet). One thing that a local mechanic suggested
is that (on my bike anyway) the caliper pivots, so the pads will contact
the rotor on one edge only, until they seat. I might be seeing the edge that's
not seated, so it looks like the pads aren't touching when I release the lever.
I'll know in a few weeks.

Jim

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*   Jim Franklin * jamesf@btr.com OR {decwrl,mips,fernwood}!btr!jamesf      *
* Yamama 650 Maxim           | "I'd like a large Ducati, with extra 'g's."  * 
* Triumph 650 (slalom champ) | "Would you like that delivered?"             * 
* DoD #469          KotP(un) | "No, I'll come pick it up."                  *
From: lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Get your feet on the GD pegs.
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:01:48 GMT
	<1992Jul22.133428.12028@javelin.sim.es.com>
	<RAIBLE.92Jul22131402@wk43.nas.nasa.gov>
	<1992Jul22.211400.28153@i88.isc.com>
	<1992Jul27.212804.1894@javelin.sim.es.com>
Organization: Chemistry Dept., Harvard University

>>>>> On 27 Jul 92 21:28:04 GMT, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) said:
bl> Even in the dirt I've found that it's generally better to keep your feet
bl> on the pegs. Now if you're doing a nice slide through a corner, or
bl> desperately trying to keep a bad situation from getting even worse, sure
bl> put a foot down. But if you feel a regular need for more than two

Depending on the speed of the slide, you might be better off putting
your knee down.  Dirt techniques (flat track) do not always translate
literally to the street.

bl> Right, this is the kind of rider I was talking about. You've seen the
bl> sort, afraid the bike won't stay up by itself. When I see them I'm torn
bl> between amusement at their technique, and a bit of morbid wondering at
bl> how long it will be before they become another statistic.

Many of those rides have put more miles on motorcycles than you or I.
In the ERC, you get a unique opportunity to observe MANY people on
MANY brands.  The surprising thing is that experienced riders develop
their own methods over the years that look inelegant, but work for them.

On the subject of dragging your feet in tight turns, however, the
fizziks are on our side.  Dragging your feet does more damage than
good, not only to your shoes!  Putting weight to the inside of a turn
causes the effective lean angle of the motorcycle to increase.  This
can be used effectively at high speeds when you risk dragging parts
(aka: the knee), but causes problems with balance at low speeds.

There are many reasons that these riders have trouble keeping their
feet on the pegs.  Some examples include:

1) In a straight line:
	a) No confidence in their braking technique.  Rider uses
	   brakes to "almost stop", then coasts to halt, releasing
	   brakes.
	b) Not familiar with technique for riding slowly.  Rider does
	   not use the "friction zone" effectively. 
2) In a curve:
	a) Fails to slow sufficiently before the turn.  See (1a)
	   above, coasts instead of using "delayed-firm" braking.
	b) Does not look all the way through the turn.  Picks the line
	   in small arcs.  Leads to jerky technique which destabilizes
	   the suspension.
	c) Doesn't understand counterweighting.  Tries to turn at low
	   speed without leaning the motorcycle.
	d) Fails to "roll" on the throttle.  Also related to friction
	   zone (1b).

--
Jerry Lotto <lotto@lhasa.harvard.edu>      "Have you hugged the curves today?"
Chemistry Dept., Harvard Univ.              MSFCI, HOGSSC, BCSO, AMA, DoD #18
From: kcchu@gandalf.rutgers.edu (The Beach Bum)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Tires: Metzler 55a vs 99a
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:57:56 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

>the Comp K and 99a for stickiness and lifetime.  They claim 
>an average of 7000 miles on the 55a, didn't give a number 
>for the 99a.  They pushed the 55a,  as did my dealer, who 

Metzeler quoted me a lifetime of 10-12k with a 425lb bike on the
higher end of the scale.

>a phasing-in process.  They both claimed the 55a was a 
>better-made tire.

The 99a is of an older technology bias, the 55a is brand new.

<Riding style deleted>
I rode 14k last year with my stock Excedras, and just recently
switched to the 99a.  I love this tire they stick soooooo well.
My friend just got a 55a, but then again he plans on the tire dry
rotting before he scuffs the tires (6k in 6 years). So far I have
ridden 1k and barely noticed wear, the Molding leftovers are just
beginning to fall off.

>Also, the front tire still has about 1/2 tread (8000 miles on the 
>bike) on the stock Dunlop.  Should I replace that with a 33 before
>I embark on this trip?  If I don't really have to, I'd rather 
>pass - that extra hundred bucks will be gas and food money.
>But if I'm jeopardizing safety because the two tires don't mix 
>well, or it's just a good idea to have similar grip on both ends, 
>I'll change it when I change the rear.

I have read that you should have the same manufacturers tires on both
front and back, also it's a no-no to mix Biased and radials unless
okay'd by the manufacturer.

Go with the 99a,
Keith
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From: swint@ingr.com (Amy Swint)
Subject: Re: The First Annual DoD Right Coast Ride comes to pass...
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:19:02 GMT

In article <151484INNs3u@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>, egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
|> How does one describe such an event?
|> 

As a damn good time!

You did a great job putting it all together, Ed. 8-)

		Amy Swint
		Email: swint@ingr.com
		82 Virago 920 + sidecar (TheMoped)

		"who wants to try out TheMoped?"

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From: pooder@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Don Fearn)
Subject: Re: How to decide?
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:13:55 GMT
Reply-To: Pooder@vnet.ibm.com, but I can't receive e-mail, so forget it.  
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <7861@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au>, zebee@ucs.adelaide.edu.au (Zebee Johnstone) writes:

|> When going on runs, the MZ is what I ride when I can't start the Ducati...
|> 

Thanks, but Gretchen takes about half a second on the starter button to 
light up and Harvey always goes on the second kick, so I can't use that for
criteria to decide.  The ride-to-work is tomorrow -- help!

-- 

    Pooder    -    Rochester,  MN   -   DoD# 0591  (I think)   -  LotN 
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Quid tibi (est) opiniones aliorum: What do you care what other people think?
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   I share garage space with:   Gretchen - '86 K75   Harvey - '72 CB500 
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From: mojo@Caere.COM (Morris Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: It's Real, DoD ERC Sept. 12
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:30:06 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Caere Corp.

Brief followup to the scheduled DoD ERC.  I leaped without looking -- the
date of Sept. 12 is the beginning of a week's vacation for me, so I won't
be there to teach the ERC.  But I'll try joining the Saturday group for
breakfast at least!

Instead you'll have another member of MSTC's dedicated and talented
instructor staff.  :)

Mojo
-- 
Morris Jones
Caere Corp.
mojo@caere.com
From: weigl@sibelius.inria.fr (Konrad Weigl)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Anyone got a saucer helmet? (was: Re: More Helmet Stuff)
Date: 21 Jul 92 09:51:48 GMT
Organization: INRIA, Sophia-Antipolis (Fr)

In article <4372@prcrs.prc.com>, terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham) writes:
|> In article <13uomcINNc9k@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>, egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
|> > So pass, and enforce, financial responsibility laws. 
|> >.....
|> Ed, you can't tell me that the people who piss and moan about 'regulating
|> my freedom of choice' are going to feel happy about paying financial    
|> responsibility taxes or premiums,  or would they?
|> 
|> Would anybody out there be willing to pay a no-helmet premium in lieu
|> of wearing a helmet, or pay extra medical premiums to smoke?

Hey, I have to agree with Ed, there:

I most definitely would pay.

Would take away any excuse left for the state to _protect_ me.

ABATE (Of California, I believe, has computed the cost per year 
to be $1.85, if every biker in California pays.

Don't nail me on that, I am not sure;
I don't even have the source any more, but you can contact them through:

ABATE of CA., Inc., 
P.O.box 8
Oakview, CA 93022
USA

_NOBODY has the right to protect me from the consequences of my own
imbecility_

Konrad Weigl, 11.11.91
DL4UP, HD, DoD#297, (Federation of European Motorcyclists) FEM#AA-0334
From: sproulx@bmtlh182.BNR.CA (Stephane Proulx)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Reducing the "numbed hand" syndrome
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:33:16 GMT
Reply-To: sproulx@bmtlh182.BNR.CA (Stephane Proulx)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

A few time ago, I've posted an article asking how to reduce
the vibrations which cause the "numbed hand". (BTW, thanx for
the answers and suggestions, I expect to install a gaz regulator
on my handles).

Since I posted that article, I've "studied" the problem of numbed
hand under different angles. First, it is clearly related in some
way to the vibrations of the bike itself. Since mine has a single
cylinder, it's vibrating a little bit, especially above 90kmph.
Nothing to do about it.
Ya right. Thank you Steph. 

The fact is that it is only the right hand that is numbed,
indicating that the vibration of the bike is not the only factor. 
Two reasons appears to cause the "syndrome". 

>First, the gaz handle is not fixed firmly to the handles so the 
hand on the gaz handle doesn't vibrate at the same frequency than 
the rest of the bike. The obvious way to reduce this factor is to 
stabilize the handles by filling it with appropriate stuff as suggested 
in previous posts. (that means $$)

>Second, (that is my contribution :) I observed that the "numbness"
come from the fact that the blood hardly circulate in the numbed hand.
I've found that I can significantly reduce the phenomenon by keeping
my wrist in the straight line of the arm. (Believe me, It works!). I 
accelerate and decelerate only with my fingers, but my wrist stay 
straight instead of following the handle. This trick reduce the "numbness"
by about 50% (free!). For the other 50%, I'll get a gaz regulator. This
thing is
cheap and a friend of mine who already have one told me that it works
fine.


Tell me if the wrist stuff works for you or if it's only my imagination...

Steph
email address: steph@com.polymtl.ca
From: shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: RCR and John's Shadow
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:13:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Office of 'Tude Licensing

In article <1992Jul28.160443.13439@cs.wayne.edu>, pbh@jake.cc.wayne.edu (Patrick Haggood) writes:
> Anyone know the email address of John, the guy who went to 
> RCR and his Shadow died on him?  I want to ask him about his
> warranty service.

Did more than one shadow go belly up on the RCR or did you get the name wrong?  The guy
that broke down with us (near marker 135 on I-81 northbound) was Tim Wright.  I've
sent Tim mail and tried calling his office once but have been unable to reach him.
Marc and I last saw him sitting in the brush near his bike on the side of I-81.  I'll
call his house tonight.  Tim's email address is WRIGHT_T@CHO000.dnet.ge.com.  Sure
hope a snake didn't get him.

- Roid
From: stets@stets.novalis.public.sub.org (Thomas Stets)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: GATO Camera From Hell (tm)
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 20:50:26 GMT
Organization: Just me.

dug@hpopd.pwd.hp.com writes in article <49140040@hpopd.pwd.hp.com>:
>
> > Warning to UK bikers: Where the M4 (Highway to Hell (tm)) joins
> > London (Hell (tm)), the filth have put one of their f**king
> > little boxes.  It is on the incoming side, on the left, just
> > where the limit goes from 70 to 50!
>
> It would appear that in Germany, people were stealing these cameras, after all,
> you get a good quality SLR, with motordrive and bulk film loader, plus a
> monster flash gun.  When they couldn't keep up with the rate they were being
> stolen at, they gave up.
>

Hm, that's new to me. Here in Stuttgart there are lots of stationary
radar-cameras. And the police is using the portable version, too.
It seems, they haven't given up yet. (too bad... :-(  )

And I've never heared that they've been stolen. Although I've read
a story in the newspaper about a woman who mistook one of those portable
"radar-traps" for a grill. She thought somebody had put it out for the
garbage-truck to pick it up. So she stopped, put it into her car...
...and was stopped by the police a few minutes later who wanted
their property back :-)


MfG Thomas Stets
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From: ksmith@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (Kevin Smith)
Subject: Re: Cages suck (women cagers)
X-Post-Machine: shasta.scl.cwru.edu
Organization: Smith Undergrad Lab, CWRU, Cleve. OH
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 19:05:55 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.175137.10679@linus.mitre.org> cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson) writes:
>In article <14h99bINNlpi@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@East.Sun.COM writes:
>>
>>Conversely, when I'm driving, I will notice potential threats, begin to
>>smoothly merge to avoid them, then 2 seconds later, Mom straight-arms
>>the dashboard and yells, "Look out for that car!"  I start looking for
>>some new car, and realize she just now saw the one I'm already dealing
>>with!
>>
>Is it just me, or does this make anyone else try to jump through the
>roof of their car??
>
>Dean

Yeah,but we all know about your mom Dean...............

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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: The full tale can now be told .....
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:45:37 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.223008.7382@worldbank.org> aki@nimbus@UUNET.UU.NET writes:
>>|'86 VF500F - Igor!  It's _ALIVE_!!!!  | "Hit the button Chewie!"... Han Solo

I wonder if Lucas stole that from "Hit the button, Max!" from
Jack Lemmon's character in "The Great Race"?

>whew! seems you had three major problems:
>
>1. Clymer manual (accept _only_ the original!) ;)

Hmmm... aside from paying tribute money to the local dealer, do the
manufacturers sell manuals mail order?  I've used both Clymer (good
schematics) and Chilton (at the library) on my bike, and both have
had some very weak points.  The place that sold me the Clymer book
is a Honda parts dealer...


-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
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