HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jon@vector0.SAC.CA.US  (Dazed N. Confused)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Why I ride
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 18:03:09 PST
Organization: Vector Zero

osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes:

>      Why I Ride
> 
>                                           To live a life without
> experiencing the thrill of hurtling at 150+ mph on a motorcycle,

     The above is not riding.  It's racing.  Just like going 35 mph
on a Sunday up and down streets is cruising.  I'd say there's a
difference: obviously a racer's going to wear some protective
clothing while the harley [or wannabe] guy only wears a
1/2 bowling ball helmet.  I don't race and I don't cruise, but I
do think I *ride*.

     I will add this though:  I've recently thought about writing
a will.  I'm 19 years old.  I think there's something to be said
about the existentialist DoDer.  Are you ready to die the instant
you leave your driveway?  Going down the freeway at 65+, pretty
much anything happens and you are dead.  After you're a corpse
you don't care who's fault it was.
     Hey, it's morbid, but it's reality.


Ob-death-sidenote: It rained today.  Something about all those cagers
looking at you as if you're suicidal, then try to take a right turn
at 35 mph.  They think you're crazy, but don't think of their own
tire traction at 60 mph down a residential.

--Jon

   jon@vector0.SAC.CA.US                     Life is like a kiwi.
   '90 Radian 600
From: rtaraz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Saturday night COPS on FOX
Date: 17 Nov 92 12:45:52
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: labrg@emory.edu's message of 16 Nov 92 20:48:57 GMT

>>>>> On 16 Nov 92 20:48:57 GMT, labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) said:


       Anybody out there ever
labrg> know anyone to die in an auto accident?  Did you ever consider
labrg> abondoning the automobile as a transportation source?  Just a
labrg> thought....


its different though, 
if you get into a car accident you might come out unharmed, but on a
bike you are gonna be injured,

When I bought my bike, my whole family was worried and told me that I
might die or some other stuff like that, and I said:

at least I will die happy!

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: noemi@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Noemi Berry)
Subject: Adoption announcement
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 05:07:15 GMT

		*** Adoption Announcement ***!

Reprinted without permission from _Family_Motorcycling_:

Friday Nov, 20, 1992:

The Berry residence would like to announce the addition of a
new member: a BMW R65LS, known as NM (Noemi's Motorcycle)!

NM was born in 1983, at San Jose (CA) BMW, has been through several
foster homes in Arizona, and hopes to live out its life with Noemi,
its 6th owner.  Though it was happy with its previous owner in Tucson,
it could no longer compete for attention with its younger, stronger
sibling, a K75, and hence a better home was sought.  NM is entering
adolescence at 28,720 miles, and does not have the fresh-faced
appearance of a new motorcycle.  Despite an ugly red pallor and
a ruddy complexion, internally it is very healthy.

NM keeps a diary (ok, a service log), and came with its own toys,
including non-LS handlebars & cables, a cover, a tank bag, engine guards,
a BMW accessory plug, an extra seatpan, a steering damper, a great
aftermarket sidestand and best of all, a pair of hard saddlebags.
It has a few bad habits, like grossly underreporting speed (i'm
prepared with a GREAT excuse if i get pulled over, though :-)),
and buzzing around 4500 RPM.

NM already has 850 more miles on it in two days of ownership, after an
incredibly windy ride from Tucson to San Jose, CA.  It has a fantastic
range, going over 200 miles without whining to stop at a gas station!
It is well-mannered and went 600 miles in one day (on the way to its new
home) with no complaint.

NM's new owner is overjoyed at this long-awaited arrival, and is
reported to have shown interest in bathing her motorcycle for the
first time.  Though NM is a large, strapping motorcycle, its owner
is determined to stand her ground and not lose the inevitable battles
brought about by a sizable height and weight difference.  Recently
bereaved of a Kawasaki CSR 305, NM's new owner is convinced that
the kawi hari-karied (say that 3 times fast :-) ) to make room for
the arrival of NM one week later.

Please join the Berrys in welcoming the latest member of the family.

noemi
*---------------------------------------------------------------*
noemi@cs.ucla.edu					KotSBL
'83 BMW R65LS (NM -- at LAST!)				DoD #443
*---------------------------------------------------------------*
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: howland@noc.arc.nasa.gov (Curtis Howland)
Subject: Re: What would you ride on a long distance trip?
Organization: NASA Science Internet Project Office
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:04:52 GMT

In article <BxzExu.I8p@news.iastate.edu>, tomes@iastate.edu () writes:

... like why do the wheels stay in contact with the
|> ground if the bike rotates about the center of mass?
|> 
|> CP Tomes

Gravity. The center of gravity FALLS
and then is re-balanced by the cornering
pushing back. 

One thing the instructor pointed out
in the ERC: In the hard swerves, there
can come a point where the front wheel
can gain air from being thrown UP by 
the direction change.

...and a helmet makes no difference!
(flame bait! New useless thread!)

Curt
From: johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Book Review
Keywords: Harley, Indian, Gargoyle
Date: 18 Nov 92 04:32:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Nov18.043240.7782
Organization: Washington State University
Originator: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu

A Book Review
 
_Yesterday's Motorcycles_ by Bob Karolevitz.  1986.
Published by The Homestead Publishers of Mission Hill, SD 57046.
Library of Congress Number 85-81540.  No ISBN number!
 
Subtitled:  Being a collection of pre-1930 motorcycle memorabilia,
featuring scores of US. Makes and models for the enjoyment and
edification of collectors, restorers, active bikers and those who
wished they were!
 
This book happened my way as a gift.  I do not where it was purchase
nor how much it cost.
 
It is one neat book.
 
This book consists of 128 pages of old advertisements, photos and a
little bit of written history about the period.  The ads grab your eyes
and you can't stop.  Did you know that there was an ad for HD that
went:  "This Harley-Davidson does the work of Three horses!"  and
"Harley Davidson, the motorcycle with a new way of starting." which
"Rides like a touring car" and "Runs extremely quiet!"
 
Geezz how times change.
 
Did you know that:
 
Mobiloil has been around since year one and went under the logo of
_Gargoyle_.
 
Goodyear once held the motorcycle speed record for tires by covering
83 miles 135 yds in exactly 60 minutes.
 
You could get full body rain suits for bikers for about $4.
 
You could get a Pope motorcycle for $165 that weighed 160 and had
4 hp!
 
In 1913 Indian had 1500 dealers in the US. and featured a 7 hp twin
for $250.
 
Belt drives were common. For example the Thiem line for 1912 had
both v-belt and flat belt models.  And 28 inch wheels.
 
In 1900 oil or gas powered lighting was common on bikes and
motorcycles.
 
Hey, I could go on and on.  It is a great book.  I am not even into old
bikes and I have a hard time putting this one down.
 
Thought y'all might want to know--Santa's coming to town.  :-)
 
Ride Free,
 
Bill
___________________________________________________________________
johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu  prez=BIMC  KotV KotRR
DoD #00314  AMA #580924   Squid Index 3.0    WMTC #0002  KotD #0001
Yamabeemer fjgs1200pdr100 and a Volvo.  What more could anyone ask?
 
Just see the freedom in impermanence.
 
                                             Zen graffiti
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: MERCEDES MOTORCYCLE????
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 17 Nov 92 12:18:54 -0600
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
 <Stafford-131192093747@stafford.winona.msus.edu> <BxpqCI.7AA@javelin.sim.es.com>
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS

In article <BxpqCI.7AA@javelin.sim.es.com>, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
(Dances With Bikers) wrote:
> 
> Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
> 
> >who's also 6' tall, 185 pounds
> 
> This is something to fear? Sounds more like a skinny, pencil-necked
> computer geek than a vicious biker. :-)


Actually the post was a Blaine Gardner attractor.  Thought you were
dead or something.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: leung@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Bruce Leung)
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Organization: Center for Supercomputing R&D, U. of Ill.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 17:22:05 GMT

Randy Davis writes:
>Bruce Leung (that's me) writes:
>|I have to agree with Mike on this one.  Peripheral vision as defined
>|by my Webster's New World Dictionary (and how I've always thought of
>|it) is:
>|	the area of vision lying just outside the line of direct sight
>|
>|My own working definition is that something is in my periph. vision if
>|I can see it without looking at it.  The outer edges of my viewport
>|are not in my periph. vision.
>
>  Read that JUST a little closer, Bruce...  Are you defining "direct sight"
>as merely "forward sight"?  It sure looks like it, which is incorrect.

Sigh.  Irregardless (wait, let me get out my dictionary... not there)
Regardless of how we each want to define peripheral vision, as I stated
in a reply to Ed, I don't disagree with your basic claims.  I can *easily*
see all edges of my viewport by moving my eyes.  And when I'm trying to
track down odd engine/bike noises I leave my helmet off as I putt around
the neighborhood.

>If you turn your eyes and TRY to see your viewport, and still can't see the
>edges of your viewport, then perhaps your helmet does NOT restrict YOUR
>side-to-side peripheral vision - but you are the only one that I know of
>that fits this description, and perhaps ought to think about not driving or
>riding anymore before you hurt yourself or, more importantly, someone else.

You seem to be real concerned about other people hurting themselves.  Ever
consider running for office?  Please check your patronizing attitude at
the door (or is that keyboard?).

Bruce "I'm getting out of this discussion..."
From: jlp@blink.att.com (Jon Peticolas(x7058))
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:49:34 GMT
Organization: AT&T

robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Robinson) writes:

>Of course, you could just get a half-helmet that doesn't cover your eyes
>or ears.

This is the approach I use (while it's still legal). It's not as great
as it sounds though. On the plus side, there is no vision impairment, and
no loss of stereo hearing perception (I can't tell what direction a 
sound is coming from with my full face on). On the minus side, there is 
a significant increase in wind noise over the full face, and some increase 
in wind drag.

In experiments I conducted in a freedom loving state some years ago 
comparing a fullface (Kiwi), and open face, and no face^H^H^H^Hhelmet,
I found that I experenced the least wind noise with no helmet on. There 
is also a significant drop in wind drag (and hence fatigue) with no helmet. 
On top of that I felt buck naked and tended to drive at lower speeds. 
After a week of riding mostly helmetless, putting the bucket back on
was like attaching a sail to my head.

Experiments conducted with my head, a 1977 Harley Sportster and the
beautiful back roads somewhere above Bangor Maine. 
Your head, helmet, bike, riding position, and environment, may vary.
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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Slip-sliding away (was Re: What would you ride...)
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:21:08 GMT
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <1992Nov18.194212.6271@colorado.edu> alex@lyra.colorado.edu (Alex Matthews) writes:
>Future contributors to this thread should first complete the following
>brain-teaser:
>
>"You are riding your bike in a straight line.  Is your front wheel rotating
>about its hub, or about its contact point with the road, or both, or
>neither?"

What if the front tire isn't in contact with the road?
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Motowear Update ...
Date: 17 Nov 1992 00:55:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, csl@swl.msd.ray.com (Scott Lilliott) says:

>Well, John Dakar is under the work gun, so I thought I'd call up Motowear
>I find out for myself (800-333-3155). I ended up talking with Pat ?? who is one

ARGH!  I posted a long rambling discussion about the suit on Saturday.  It
isn't here!  Stupid F*&&^$% Computers!

I'll try again this weekend.

Basically he's got the facts striaght.  The suit does come in womens'
sizes, which some may find important.  And the suits are two tone
Red/black, red/blue, black/red, black/blue.

Other details will follow.

-- 
------------------------------------------------------------>DarkMan-------->
Case Western Reserve University,  Cleveland, Ohio            DoD #650
Anyone know where a BSME can get a job?  Available 1/93.  This is for real!
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: High speed in USA?
Date: 16 Nov 1992 15:03:26 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article Bon@quadsys.com, roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer) writes:
>>
>It sure is my experience that cops typically don't care how fast you were 
>going and usually are quite reasonable and will write you up for a 65 in a
>55 zone even though you were going 75. The difference in fines is significant.

The professionals do (which is almost 100% restricted to the CHP where
you are).  They will write you up for less than your actual speed just
to keep you from getting *so* pissed off, and to decrease the
likelyhood that you will contest the ticket in court.  They know that
in the long run it makes no difference.  If you are a safe rider who
just happened to let the speedo get away, well, you've got a fairly
minor reminder.  If you are a speed freak who never rides at the speed
limit, well, after 3 or 4 tickets your license or your insurance or
both is going to be yanked, and whether the ticket is for 65 or 75
makes little difference.

City cops, OTHO, most often have an attitude of "multiple citation per
stop" will more thoroughly teach you a lesson.


---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: dunne@rtsg.mot.com (Jim Dunne)
Subject: Piston & Ring diagnostics
Keywords: Rad porting, the dark side
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:37:06 GMT

Al Conte explains...
>The dark side to this is that ring / piston life has dropped quite a bit
>from 2 stroke designs  that were produced, lets say 4 or 5 years ago.

    OK guys, how do I know when it's time to change the rings or piston?
    First of all, without removing the jug, what are the symptoms?  
    Noise?  Power loss?  Con rod sticking thru the case :-)?

    My '86 YZ490 has probably never been done, but it doesn't have a
    whole lot of hours on it (how many I don't know, I think my brother
    got it used).  There's a little banging noise at idle, but it could
    just be the sound of a big bore.  It's got *plenty* of power, starts
    pretty easily, and idles just fine.

    OK, if you cut the head off, can you measure the piston-to-cyl gap
    with a feeler guage?  Is it spec'd in the manual?  What else?

    Then if you pull the jug off, what next?  I sure don't have one of
    those big micrometers to check the piston, nor an inside gauge for
    the bore.

    I know sometimes folks just change the rings.  I suppose you'd do
    this if the piston & bore check out.  Can you change the piston
    without boring?  Are they sold in increments of .030 in.?

    Sorry for all the questions, but my experience is with the
    intake/exhaust sides mostly.  I don't get enough riding in to get
    any 2-stroke rebuild experience!  If "King Kong" should need it, it's
    going to be expen$ive...

--
   Jim Dunne   dunne@rtsg.mot.com    ...uunet!motcid!dunne   Northern IL, USA
    --<{ TEAM STRANGE -- street / dirt / lake / snow / ice  LOCO-MOTION }>--
From: clane@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (bored-out-of-my-skull)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Hey Dr. Cooper
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:32:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: magnus.CMM.0.90.4.722010746.clane
Organization: The Ohio State University


I tried email but it bounced so heres the message

____________________________________________________________________


Cooper
Doctor
Mr. KDX Md.

	I have a 87 KDX200.  I have never re-packed the exhaust, and not
shure if the previious owner has.  I plan on looking into it asaFp (perhapse
this evening).

	I am interested in this little trick u posted, Does this work
	on the 87 as well.  And could ya give me a little more details
	on how to "cut"?  Is it metal I have to cut?  Or is it sorta
	obvious after i take off the pipe and take it apart?

	Also this lid trick, does this work on the 87 as well?

Thanxs a million

later               Sponsered by: Chuck's Bar, Barbeque, Bed and Breakfast
chuck!                              "Breakfast is FREE at my restaurant!"
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: mtrhead@selway.umt.edu (Josh Harmon)
Subject: porting and rings...
Keywords: ring life
Organization: University of Montana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:58:16 GMT

Al, please elaborate on what porting has to do with ring life...Inquiring 
minds want to know.


-- 
*** Josh Harmon *** 88 CR500 *** 88 GSX600 *** mtrhead@selway.umt.edu *
* "I would like to stick my dick in that piece of Real Estate!"       *
*					Van Halen 1991                *
***********************************************************************
From: frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: winter NON-riding  :(
Date: 16 Nov 92 07:56:46 CDT
Organization: Texas Instruments Component Test Facility

In article <BxoCM5.MJ@vcd.hp.com>, erikn@vcd.hp.com (Erik Ness) writes:
> I know these are bad words, but what should I do to prepare my bike for a
> long period without riding?  Although I have good intentions, it seems I
> won't be riding much this winter.  Specifically, should I drain the carb
> and gas tank?  Anything else?

  Don't know if it makes much difference but, get the bike up on a crate
  to relieve the suspension.   You might also shoot the tires with Armorall
  to keep them from dry rotting.  Thats something I forgot to do and my
  nobs showed up with cracks on the sidewalls.  My clutch plates oxidized.
  I probably should have flooded the case with oil which would have submerged
  the seals.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: wardman@gandalf.ca (Russel Wardman)
Subject: Re: winter riding
Organization: Gandalf Data Ltd.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:29:05 GMT

In <1670@seqp4.sequoia.com> cantrell@seqp4.sequoia.com (Paul Cantrell) writes:

>In article <1992Nov13.162446.11243@gandalf.ca>, wardman@gandalf.ca (Russel Wardman) writes:
>> In <BxM29v.E6w@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cmhg1010@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Cy) writes:
>> 
>> >I like riding my bike and plan to do it all winter long, snow
>> >ice, sleet, whatever.  I recently saw a posting about changing
>> >the jet for cold riding.  (Sometimes it gets -20F here)
>> 
>> Yes, you will to have to rejet, or something will melt down. Buy a
>> number of jets (main and pilot) in the 10 to 20 percent larger than 
>> stock range. It's better to be too rich than too lean, so start with the
>> largest jets and the needle all the way up (clip at bottom) and then
>> start reducing their size until its jetted right.

>I don't understand the part about something melting down. During winter,
>the dense air is going to make the mixture *richer*, which should make
>the engine run cooler. Am I missing something here?

colder air = Denser air = more air = leaner. 
conversely; warmer air = less dense air = less air = richer.

During high school and college, I rode my motorcycles year round (in
>Connecticut and Massachusetts). Temps down to about -10F, and never any
>problems. I never bothered to rejet, and never had any problems. My
>experience was that the *rider* needed a lot of special preparations,
>but that the *bike* did just fine in the winter.

You got away with it because your bike was too rich in the summer, so
the leaning that happened in the winter still left it in the usable
range. Or, it was a 4-stroke, which are harder to melt down.
>-- 
>                  THIS                  | Paul Cantrell "PC"
>                  SPACE                 | cantrell@sequoia.com
>              INTENTIONALLY             | DoD #1144
>               LEFT BLANK               | HELO/ASEL/ZX10 Pilot
-- 
**         Russell Wardman         ** 78 TT-500 (for sale)             **
**          613-723-6500           ** 84 Turbo 750 KAWASAKI (for sale) ** 
**                                 ** 90 KX 500 KAWASAKI               **
**      (rwardman@gandalf.ca)      **                                  **
From: slv42@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Idaho riding
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:56:39 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

While I've never had my bike along, I've spent time in the Boise area.
It looks like the trail and desert riding opportunities are as extensive
as they are in the eastern part of the state.  There's a place called 
Breuno (sp?) Dunes that's reputed to be really good if you like sand, 
but I've never seen it.  

If you are ever planing on venturing more than 150 miles east of Boise,
you can get a good map of the Arco desert from the BLM for ~$2.  I lived 
on the edge of this area (American Falls) untill last year and only rode 
a small fraction of the trails avaliable in the 6 or 8 years I'd been
riding.  

If you want more info or someone to ride with in East ID (durring vacations)
send me email.

Happy riding!

Eric Poulson         slv42@cc.usu.edu