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From: lchong@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Leo Chong)
Subject: Re: Help with PAS16 "Speech"
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 01:03:25 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly State Univ,CSC Dept,San Luis Obispo,CA 93407
Keywords: PAS junk

In article <1992Jul25.203853.7432@polari> night@polari.online.com writes:
>Computer:  IBM 486 25MZ AST Brand
>
>Windows sounds work fine, and so do game sounds.  I got the
>MVSOUND.sys line added back into the config.sys.  However, I
>can't get my ULTIMA VII game to "talk" to me like it use to!
>
>I have tried every conceivable iRQ and DMA setting.  Also, I don't
>know what's missing out of the autoexec.bat.  I run the setup to
>make changes to both autoexec and config, and it only changes
>junk in my config.  Of course I use sb_on.  Further, none of the
>monolog programs run.  When they get to the "speech", they hang
>the computer after a "belching" noise.
>

Wow, now that makes FOUR cases of PAS-16 not running speech on a 486.
PAS should seriously call back all their cards or offer a 5 dollar upgrade
for a revised product within the next two weeks because I am seriously
getting impatient reading this f***ing newsgroup hoping someone would
come up with a solution to this deal.

lchong@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu
From: tim@chaos.math.uakron.edu (Timothy Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Gravis UltraSound Offer..
Date: 27 Jul 92 19:12:06 GMT
Reply-To: tim@chaos.math.uakron.edu
Organization: The University of Akron (Dept. of Math Sciences)

I just got off the phone with Gravis and here is more info on the 
ultrasound card:

	1)  Will be shipping on or before 2nd week of august.

	2)  There is an offer from Electronic Arts that if you buy one
            EA title you can buy the ultrasound for $99.00
            Here is the number for info:  1-800-245-4525 ask for ultrasound 
            offer.

	3)  Is is sound blaster compatable via a software driver.

	4)  They are working on os/2 drivers for there board.

	5)  It will work in either a 8-bit or 16-bit slot.

	6)  It will use the higher interrupts on a 16-bit slot



				I will post more when I know more..


All the above info is current as of 7-27-92.. But may change..


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From: jms20@po.CWRU.Edu (John M. Sully)
Subject: Looking for a good sound card
Reply-To: jms20@po.CWRU.Edu (John M. Sully)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 21:21:11 GMT


Greetings,
   I've been toying with the idea of getting a sound card (soundBlaster
compatable) for my 486/33, but I'm new to this area, so I need some advice.
What are considered good cards?  I'm looking for a 16-bit sampler (although
info on 8-bit would be appriciated as well...), perferably with a 
stereo input and output.  OS/2 2.0 and windows support would be nice, but
I have no idea if that's available.  If possible, prices would be appriciated

Thanks for any help y'all can give me.

John

Oh...please respond via e-mail, as I don't get on here very often...
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From: bho@ocf.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: SB vs. Thunderboard?
Date: 22 Jul 1992 17:26:08 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: tornado.berkeley.edu


I have a couple of friends who have decided to purchase a soundcard
finally.  I thought, "Great! I'll show them my PAS-16 and they'll
go buy a great 16-bit soundcard!"

However, as it would be, they have decided that they want
a card that fulfills their _minimum_ needs for improved
sound and are deciding between a Soundblaster and a Thunderboard.

They argue that they'll buy a new one in one to two years and
that the SB or Thunderboard is "good enough".

Now, since I'm not paying or even going to use their systems
that's fine, but they wanted to know which of two cards would
be better?

Now, I know a little about both, but I want to know:
which one produces better sound, etc.

I am aware that the Thunderboard has only a 2 watt amp vs.
a 4 watt, and that people have experienced a few
incompatibilities with the Thunderboard on older games and
the like, but recently doesn't seem to have any more
problems, and that the Thunderboard undercuts the SB by
$5 (where I am at).

So, I guess what is boils down to is where to lie in
the technical performance.

Feel free to email me.

Bing Ho
hob@sds.sdsc.edu


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From: nyet@cco.caltech.edu (n liu)
Subject: Re: my SoundBlaster Pro is FLAT!
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 08:58:41 GMT

gleasont@lonex.rl.af.mil (Todd C. Gleason) writes:

>In article <711400441.F00004@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au> hamish@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au (Hamish Moffatt) writes:
>>I have a Korg DT-2 digital tuner, so I thought I'd hook it up to my SoundBlaster
>>Pro and see what happens. So I got the cable and jack out and another jack and
>>head phones for the bypass plug. Started up Pro Fm Organ.
>>
>>The SoundBlaster is flat. Well, the instruments I've tested are. Piano, Organ
>>are flat. The violin wavers just under and goes a little over the tone.
>>This is with A = 440, the usual tuning note.

>You probably haven't gotten any good programs for it yet.  I've only got
>a Sound Blaster ver. 1.5, but it is anything but flat.  Try anonymous ftp
>... [suggestions on how to make your SB sound more exciting]

He he. "What we have here is a failure to communicate."  According to my 
Korg AT-12, the FMOrgan is 6 cents flat... I haven't played with programming
the DSP personally yet, so I'm not sure if its the organ's or the card's fault.
Anybody want to fund futher research? :-)
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From: hamish@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au (Hamish Moffatt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Inexpensive Sound Card
Date: 18 Jul 92 05:18:20 GMT


 >      For inexpensiveness, and good quality, try the Thunder Board
 >      by Media Vision.  it does everything the SoundBlaster can do, ius
 >  about     20-30 ollars cheaper, and is fully SB/Adlib compatible.

I heard once [somewhere] that the Thunder Board tended to die after about six
months in a machine, for unexplained reasons.... ?!



Regards,
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From: Gavin Adams <gavin.adams@lso.mts.dec.com>
Subject: Re: Ordering the PAS-16
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d1
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:25:04 GMT



In article <1992Jul22.162617.5627@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> John M. Sully,
jms20@po.CWRU.Edu writes:
>I just called MediaVision to inquire about the PAS-16 card...
>According to the FAQ, the price is $215, but MediaVision 
>said $349!!!

The $349 is retail.  Who pays retail? :)  Check PC Zone and some of the
other mail-order houses.

>Am I just looking in the wrong place?  If so, can someone suggest 
>where I should order it from (places that can be trusted...)
>
>Thanks,
>John
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From: aestens@epx.cis.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Gravis UltraSound Offer..
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:18:05 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

I just read in America Online last night that the Ultrasound has been
delayed yet another 2 weeks, to the END OF AUGUST.  (yes, I know I'm
shouting)

Personally, I've had nearly enough of this malarkey.  I just might give in
and buy a PAS-16!  (can anyone recommend a reputable mail-order house,
with good prices, and the card in stock?)


  Alan S. Estenson..............aka Mycroft Holmes                    
  Aerospace Engineering....Aestens@epx.cis.umn.edu                    
  University of Minnesota, Institute of Technology                    
 => Think of it as evolution in action.
From: thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: PAS FAQ Finalized Version is coming _very_ soon...
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:08:31 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Greetings netters,

Sorry, I've had finals and have not been able to work on the PAS FAQ.
I will, however, tonight devote many hours to it and will have it 
finished by Tuesday or Wednesday.  This will be the finalized version
with corrections and with additional information.  Thanks for your
patience...

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From: seanp@undr.org (Sean Petty)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Just a SND Player! Please!
Date: 22 Jul 92 04:22:43 GMT
Reply-To: Sean Petty <undr!seanp@gvls1.GVL.Unisys.COM>
Organization: The Underground - Pennsylvania



        Can someone please point me to a SIMPLE, SMALL, easy to run .SND
        player for my SoundBlaster?  I got Remac, PlayMac, and a bunch
        of others, but have yet to find something that will just play
        the sound through my SB's speaker.

        Can someone suggest something, please?

        Sean

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From: tarun@psyclops.psyc.queensu.ca (Tarun Kripalani)
Subject: Re: PAS-16 availability
Organization: Dept. Of Psychology,  Queen's University,  Kingston
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:54:12 GMT

In article <SJE.92Jul22104101@xylos.ma30.bull.com>, sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com (Steven J. Edwards) writes:
|> Just a brief note about the availability of the Pro Audio Spectrum 16:
|> I ordered mine about two weeks ago, and a call this morning indicated
|> that it will probably be at least another two weeks until new
|> shipments from Media Vision arrive.
|> 
|> So, it definitely is a popular card.
|> 
|> So, don't hold your breath.
|> 
|> And I would guess that paying extra for overnight delivery is not
|> going to help very much.
|> 
|> I wonder how long it will be until various soundcard and software
|> producers stop saying "SB compatible" and start saying "PAS
|> compatible" instead.
|> 
|>  [The above opinions expressed are my own; not necessarily held by others.]
|>       == Steven J. Edwards           Bull HN Information Systems Inc. ==
|>       == (508) 294-3484              300 Concord Road         MS 820A ==
|>       == sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com     Billerica, MA 01821          USA ==
|> "That Government which Governs the Least, Governs Best." -- Thomas Jefferson

I spoke to a couple of companies, Upgrades International and Telemart, last Friday
the 17th of July and both of them told me that they had the PAS-16 in stock. UI quoted
me $232 while Telemart quoted me $216. I don't have the numbers in my hand but I will post
it when I have it.
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e-mail:   tarun@psyclops.psyc.queensu.ca
Dept. of Psychology, Queen's University,
Kingston, Ontario.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: hsiaoe@aix.rpi.edu (Eric Hsiao)
Subject: Re: Info on Sound Blaster 16 from Prodigy
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:11:06 GMT

From what CL told me at PC Expo, the SB 16 might have the same proprietary
CD-ROM interface, not a standard SCSI.  I guess it keeps the old SB Pro
users happy in that they can upgrade to the SB 16 without buying a new
CD-ROM drive.  However, I would still prefer using the NEC 83 over that
Panasonic drive that the CL kit uses.
           - Eric
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From: johnson@cps.msu.edu.cps.msu.edu (Graham K Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Please read if you have a PAS-16
Date: 26 Jul 92 01:57:34 GMT
Reply-To: johnson@cps.msu.edu.cps.msu.edu (Graham K Johnson)
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Originator: johnson@indian.cps.msu.edu

Several people on this newsgroup have mentioned problems with the
sound quality of the PAS-16 -- specifically, noise on the left
channel.  Mine produces a very annoying static in the left channel
apparently only on line-in input.  It gets worse with increased
volume, suggesting it's more than a bad connection or something like
that.  I would like to know whether others have had good or bad luck
with the PAS-16.  If you have one, could you please tell me (e-mail is
fine):
1.  How long have you used your PAS-16?
2.  How does it work (i.e. how's the sound quality, esp. does it sound
good -- w/o static --  when simply listening to a CD through it with
headphones at decent volume)
I am interested in knowing if I can expect a replacement to be
problem-free or if I should return my PAS-16 altogether.
Thank you for your responses.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: fbruno@julio.sanders.lockheed.com (Frank Bruno)
Subject: CD ROM wanted
Reply-To: fbruno@ncavax.decnet.lockheed.com
Organization: Lockheed Sanders, Inc
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 13:11:55 GMT

	I have a micropolis 145MB HD -SCSI and 16 bit controller and would like
to swap them for a SB PRO compatible CD ROM w/ some CD's to try. The drive
formats to over 147,000K and works great, I have just upgraded to a 311MB
drive, so I no longer need the 145. Please E-mail me if interested.
					-Frank Bruno
					fbruno@ncavax.decnet.lockheed.com
From: benavides@aios.jsc.nasa.gov (LORRAINE BENAVIDES)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Soundblaster Pro Card for sale!!
Date: 24 Jul 1992 15:50:13 GMT
Organization: KRUG Life Sciences - NASA

I'm selling my SoundBlaster Pro Card. It's only 2 weeks old, so it's in 
excellent condition. I have all the documentation, software and cables. 
If your interested please E-mail me at giri@medics.jsc.nasa.gov .  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: smsmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephen M Smith)
Subject: Re: Roland LAPC-1 Source
Keywords: ROLAND LAPC-1 MAIL ORDER
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:31:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.195306.29230@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> tjo3s@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Thomas John O'Shaughnessy) writes:
>I'm looking for a mail order company that carries the Roland LAPC-1.
>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>					Thanks,
>					Tom
>

I bought mine for $369 from Leigh's Computers in New York:

1475 3rd Ave.
New York, NY  10028
1-800-321-MIDI
1-212-879-6257

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From: cb062@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ira C. Smith)
Subject: Re: PAS 16 problems 
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 12:47:48 GMT


    Im not an expert on this stuff, but I wonder if you have
reduced you config.sys file to much. I assume you are still 
loading DOS, are you loading himem.sys? Does Windows have access
to all of your memory ? It might not make a difference, but Is
it possible that a lack of memory available could be the cause
for some of your problems? 

   Good Luck.

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From: swarren@convex.com (Steve Warren)
Subject: Re: ProAudio/16 Information from MV
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:30:08 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.


Hey, J024330@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM, can you try to get all of the
text to this message?  You dropped the ends of all the longer lines of
text, so a lot of the information is missing.  This is probably some
cut-and-paste buffer limit or something.  Maybe you need to cut smaller
sections at a time?
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From: raf4482@zeus.tamu.edu (REID FORREST)
Subject: Re: Help Building a Parallel port DAC.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:10:00 GMT

In article <92211.150131MEB117@psuvm.psu.edu>, Matthew E. Bernold <MEB117@psuvm.psu.edu> writes...
>I am trying to build an audio DAC for the parallel port on my computer, and
>the schematic I have calls for a 2 ZN428 8-bit DACs.  (The design included in
>ModPlay Pro MP219B.ZIP for the Stereo-in-1 card.  I can find DAC0800 chips for
>the mono version just fine.  :-))  My problem is that I can't get hold of this
>chip, and don't know what to use as a suitable replacement.  Can someone give
>me an idea which chip to use?  Where do I get it?  How much does it cost?
> 

I'm not sure as to a replacement chip (don't have my manuals handy), but
have you tried EasyTech for the chip?  I believe(stressed) that a friend
found it there.


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From: tml@tik.vtt.fi (Tor Lillqvist)
Subject: Soundcards contra synths
Organization: Technical Research Centre of Finland, Laboratory for Information
	Processing (VTT/TIK)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 19:02:04 GMT

I understand that most soundcards use Yamaha chips to do the FM sound
synthesis. How do the capabilities of these chips compare to that of
the Yamaha DX7 and its successors?  Could somebody please describe the
soundcards from a "synth perspective".

I happen to have this book by Chowning (the inventor of FM synthesis)
and Bristow about FM synthesis, especially on the DX7, and it
describes the FM synthesis theory rather well (even if it is written
"for musicians", and for example tries desperately to avoid complex
math).  How well documented is the programming of the Yamaha chips?
How many operators are there (six in the DX7)?  How much polyphony?
What other questions should I ask?

What about the available music programs, do they support setting up
voices from the lowest level of detail (which algorithm, operator
frequency, envelope generator parameters, etc)?  If you would like to
experiment with sound synthesis, is it better to buy a used DX7, or
some soundcard and software?

Lots of perhaps stupid questions... thanks in advance for any answers.
--
Tor Lillqvist,
working, but not speaking, for the Technical Research Centre of Finland
From: edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Soundcards contra synths
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:06:58 GMT
Organization: RAND Corporation.

In article <TML.92Jul26190204@hemuli.tik.vtt.fi> tml@tik.vtt.fi (Tor Lillqvist) writes:
>I understand that most soundcards use Yamaha chips to do the FM sound
>synthesis. How do the capabilities of these chips compare to that of
>the Yamaha DX7 and its successors?  Could somebody please describe the
>soundcards from a "synth perspective".

Pretty weak.  Although the newest Yamaha sound chip offers four operators
per voice, control over those operators is much less than in, say, a
Yamaha TZ81 4-op synth module.  A DX-7 is even more different, with its
lack of waveforms (only sine is available) more than made up for by
the amount of control you have over its 6 operators.

>and Bristow about FM synthesis, especially on the DX7, and it
>describes the FM synthesis theory rather well (even if it is written
>"for musicians", and for example tries desperately to avoid complex
>math).  How well documented is the programming of the Yamaha chips?
>How many operators are there (six in the DX7)?  How much polyphony?
>What other questions should I ask?

4 ops, with 4 waveforms possible per op.  The real limitations appear in
the envelopes (only 15 "values" of attack, decay, sustain, and release
controlling both rate and level, unlike the DX-7's 100 levels and 100
rates) modulation (aftertouch, bending, portamento, etc., are either
absent or rudimentary), control over frequency ratios (integer ratios
only), pitch scaling (absent), and so forth.

>What about the available music programs, do they support setting up
>voices from the lowest level of detail (which algorithm, operator
>frequency, envelope generator parameters, etc)?  If you would like to
>experiment with sound synthesis, is it better to buy a used DX7, or
>some soundcard and software?

A simple patch editor is part of the PAS-16's SP Spectrum Sequencer,
which comes with the card.  I suspect other cards are similar.

If you /really/ want to experiment with /sound synthesis/ in the
fundamental sense, get a general-purpose synthesis program (I use CSOUND),
generate sound files with it, and play them back through your sound card.
If you are willing to expend the effort (and patience) involved, there are
techniques you can use which will outdo, in terms of sound synthesis, any
synth on the market.  Ask around comp.music.

		-Ed Hall
		edhall@rand.org
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