From: usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns)
Subject: Re: A New Fa-Guo-Nan-Cai Theory :-)  Re: A real story
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:19:22 GMT

In article <27AUG199209023069@phobos.ucc.umass.edu>  
s9874194@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (s9874194) writes:
> In article <1992Aug27.001353.8157@news.acns.nwu.edu>,  
usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns) writes...
> >In article <26AUG199218420483@phobos.ucc.umass.edu>  
> >s9874194@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (s9874194) writes:
> >> In article <1992Aug26.182523.1319@news.acns.nwu.edu>,  
> >usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns) writes...
> >> >In article <BtKLp3.Fr6@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo  
> >Xiong)  
> >> >writes:
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >First of all, I fully agree with you. There are quite a lot of CSS here were  
> >communist members back in China. I have to point out that even back then,  
very  
> >few of them were real communists. They were just opportunists. This is also  
why  
> >I thought and still think CCP is quite stupid. They have been recruiting  
> >opportunists for years. These opportunists are really the "tomb digger" for  
the  
> >CCP. Since they are such a bunch of opportunists, it's not so surprising to  
see  
> >their performance here. 
> > 
> >Yes, if somebody say "I want ot go home even my mother is not pretty", I  
don't  
> >feel shame for him either. In fact I respect them. What I pointed out in the  
> >previous post is that there are some people who are just anti-social. They  
will  
> >complain in any kinds of societies. Some of them really even don't know what  
> >they are complaining about. I bet you have met this kind of people before. 
> > 
> >As for the people who want to stay here, I don't think there is anything to  
> >blame as long as they are using the right ways. For various reasons they  
prefer  
> >here not because they think their Mom is ugly, but because their Mom is  
> >controlled by someone they don't like. They might go back later, or choose  
to  
> >stay here. That their choices, don't you think? I guess this is why the  
> >immigration countries like the US, Canada, Australia now have so many  
people.  
> >If all of their ancesters had gone back because they were not suppose to  
leave  
> >their Moms, then there would not have been present US, Canada and Australia.
> > 
> >Carl 
> > 


> Carl, I do think that people have the right to chose whether to stay here
> or go back. However, my point is that one should talk straight. Do not make
> excuses. Do you believe, in your heart that most of us would be punished 
> because we are Westernised? Do you realy beleive that we will be seriously
> oppressed? Don't you feel some kind (althrough a different kind) of  
oppression
> here?
> Daniel

Thanks for your post. I think it's up the the CCP and the situation in China. I  
think China is getting better if I am not brainwashed. I do believe that some  
of us will be prosecuted and some might not. I do believe there are real  
D-Fighters here. I know one person who spent $1000 (almost all of his one-month  
salary as a TA) to block the so called "crime-repeot" phone after June 4th.  
What do you think of people like him?

Also, I don't know and don't have the right to know how long you have been in  
the US and what social background you have back in China. Some of us have been  
in the US for more than 5 years and to some degrees thay have been used to the  
democratic system (I am noy saying US is perfect). If they go back, they will  
feel uncomfortable or even oppressed (not just economically) because they are  
used to speaking out.

As for the oppression here, it also vary according to each individual. Many of  
us do feel presure if you want to put it this way. If we really feel oppressed,  
we always have our chances to go back if the oppression here is more intense.

Carl