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From: mike@cc.gatech.edu (Mike McCracken)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: Gustav Stuckley
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:53:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: cc.1992Oct14.135339.12767
Organization: Software Research Center, Georgia Tech.

In article <1bg58jINNl35@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ab900@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rick Rocheleau) writes:
|> 
|> In a previous article, apetty@dsd.es.com (Annie Petty) says:
|> 
|> >	Could anyone share information with me (or suggest 
|> >	where I could find the information) on a furniture
|> >	maker named Gustav Stuckley (sp? Stickley).  
|> 
|> Gustav Stickley is pretty much considered the best furniture maker
|> in the Arts and Crafts movement. Any book on the subject should have
|> more information. Try looking up "Arts & Crafts Movement, American" 
|> or "Mission Furniture" at the library.
|> 
|> >	I understand there were 2 brothers in New Jersey that hand made 
|> >	furniture.  
|> 
|> The brothers you've heard of may have been L & J.G. Stickley. There
|> was also an Albert Stickley and a Charles Stickley. Gustav was from
|> E. Aurora, New York.
|> -- 
|> Rick Rocheleau              | "Sex is dirty only when it's done right"
|> ab900@cleveland.Freenet.Edu |  - Woody Allen
|>    B0/4 t c g+ k(++?) h     |

I thought I posted this, but maybe I e-mailed a reply to Ms. Petty.

The Stickley family was composed of a set of brothers who were all in the 
furniture business and at various times worked together, competed and 
owned various companies.
Gustav Stickley - as noted the father of the American Arts and Crafts movement,
and overall manufactured the best designs (but not a good businessman, as he
went bankrupt in 1916).  Originally founded the United Crafts of Syracuse, and
quickly became Gustav Stickley the Craftsman (1901-1916).  Manufacturing 
always located in Syracuse, NY (plant actually in East Syracuse), had 
showrooms in Syracuse, and later in New York City.  East Aurora, NY, near 
Buffalo was the home of the Roycrofters, run by Elbert Hubbard.
Leopold and J. George Stickley found L&JG Stickley company in Fayetville, NY, a
suburb of Syracuse.  That company still exists, though now located in Manlius,
NY (another suburb of Syracuse).
Charles and Albert Stickley founded Stickley Brothers in Grand Rapids, MI.
At various other times all of the above had other companies, that were founded,
sold or started in partnership with other people.  The above is a synopsis of 
the major parts of their furniture making careers.  
One last note, they all made Arts and Crafts furniture, all had some great 
designs, and all had some lousy designs.  Since Gustav was the most vocal in 
promoting the movement (and its associated philosophy), via his writings, 
(primarily in the magazine he published) he is most generally recognized as the 
major person of the family.  The other brothers were more classical businessmen,
who made furniture in a style that was popular during that period.
Mike
From: knudsen@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (michael.j.knudsen)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: Radio
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:40:25 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Oct16.122348.23380@hemlock.cray.com>, acp@cray.com (Anthony Peterson) writes:

> 	I've got a couple of late 1930's Stromberg Carlson consoles
> 	and the "innards" are indeed impressive. The chassis fill
> 	the top of the cabinet where in many sets of this vintage
> 	the chassis in the consoles are small enough to fit in table
> 	model cabinets.

True.  Almost humorous to look behind an impressively solid-looking
walnut-veneer cabinet and see a 5-tube, 2-gang pipsqueak :-)

On the other hand, some  tombstone and cathedral table models had
console-sized chassis that barely fit under the speakers.

> 	Both of my Strombergs also have the "Accoustical Labyrinth"
> 	speaker baffling. The fidelity, sensitivity, and selectivity
> 	of these sets is really impressive.

Actually, the two identical Strombergs I had were in a special floor-
model cabinet with extra power amplifiers and dozens of knobs --
this whole thing was the PA system for my Jr High school until the
mid-50s.  The radios lacked their original cabinets except for the front
panels, but stickers on the chassis did mention Acoustical Labyrinth.

I added a speaker but found the tone rather harsh, as with some other sets
of the era.  The real McCoy probably would have been much better.

I hope to find a big S-C console someday.  Or even a Scott -- saw one
in Pittsburgh years ago, and the guy even then refused to part with it.

> >Any other radio nuts on this netlist?
> 	Have you been talking to my wife? :*)

One advantage of having 3 dozen pinball machines in a ranch house
is that my wife rarely complains about the radios :-)
-- 
	"I don't think so, Al"
  Programmers Do It on paper.  So do puppies.
	knudsen@iexist.att.com
Newsgroups: rec.antiques,ne.wanted
From: cpb@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (Bednarz)
Subject: OLD BARBER ITEMS
Keywords: WANTED BARBER POLES IN ANY CONDITION
Organization: Raytheon Company
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:11:33 GMT




	LOOKING FOR BARBER POLES , BARBER BOTTLES , COMB STERILIZERS

BARBER SIGNS , AND ETC..

	ALSO BARBER SHOP PHOTO'S

	PLEASE MAIL ANY INFORMATION 


	THANK YOU

Newsgroups: rec.antiques
From: acp@cray.com (Anthony Peterson)
Subject: Catalin cat
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:04:00 CDT


	I've got a cat made from pieces of catalin. The
	piece is about 3 inches tall, 2 inches wide, and
	about 3/8 inches thick.
	The cat is made from 9 pieces of amber, green and
	brown catalin. The face, body and skirt are each one
	piece with eyes, whiskers, mouth, and buttons painted
	on the face and body. The legs are made from small
	cylinders and the paws are made from beads. The
	pieces are all held together by a blue cord that
	runs through the pieces and is knotted at each paw
	and about 2 inches above the head.

	                 /\--/\
                       /        \
                      |          |
                       \        /
                         ------
                        --------
                  --___|        |___--
                 |  |  |        |  |  |
                 |__---|        |---__|
                       |        |
                        -------- 
                        --------
                       /        \
                      /          \
                     /            \
                    /              \
                    ----------------
                      |  |    |  |
                     |    |  |    |
                      ----    ----

	Would anyone know about how old this piece is?

Newsgroups: rec.antiques
From: mike@cc.gatech.edu (Mike McCracken)
Subject: Price Guides
Organization: Software Research Center, Georgia Tech.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:41:17 GMT


One of our readers posted a response to another readers question about 
pricing Stickley furntiture.  I took a little exception to his response 
to the question, and sent him some mail (to avoid a perception of public 
criticism).  He suggested that I post what I sent him to help other readers
avoid using price guides for anything other than what they are meant to 
be used.
I want all to note that I am not criticizing him, but trying to emphasize that
price guides are merely starting points and not sources of very specific 
information.
So here is the note.
|Your attempts to be helpful and using generic price guides don't help things.
|I know you were careful in telling the person that your information was
|possibly suspect, but price guides are generally more dangerous than they are
|of help.
|Heres' the case.  The information in a price guide like you used, has little
|relationship to what the person was asking.  First, Gustav Stickley made
|around 20 different tables, and equivalent numbers of chairs, sideboards, etc.
|Some of these pieces are worth little, some are worth a lot.  Condition also
|makes a significant difference in value (sometimes more than 50% or more).
|If the person for example has a dining room of the late period (in particular
|of a style called Jacobean Revival), it is essentially worth no more than used
|furniture.  If on the other hand the set is of a particular design called
|spindle, each chair is worth 4-7000 dollars.  See what I mean?
|In addition, the market has fallen on hard times, and most info in price
|guides does not reflect the market.  In fact, it is interesting that the
|major Arts and Crafts auctions hardly have furniture any more, since the market
|is essentially depressed beyond what many people paid for the stuff,
 anticipating selling it at auction.

Mike
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
From: acp@cray.com (Anthony Peterson)
Subject: Re: Radio
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:23:48 CDT

In article <1992Oct15.190439.11346@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> knudsen@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (michael.j.knudsen) writes:
>
>I had a ca. 1950 small S-C table model that was nice but no big deal.
>However, I once had the innards of an incredible mid-30s console set
>with 5 bands, 2 IF stages, and a treble control that widened the IF
>bandwidth when turned up.  At least a Mercedes :-)
>
	I've got a couple of late 1930's Stromberg Carlson consoles
	and the "innards" are indeed impressive. The chassis fill
	the top of the cabinet where in many sets of this vintage
	the chassis in the consoles are small enough to fit in table
	model cabinets.
	Both of my Strombergs also have the "Accoustical Labyrinth"
	speaker baffling. The fidelity, sensitivity, and selectivity
	of these sets is really impressive.

>Any other radio nuts on this netlist?
>-- 
	Have you been talking to my wife? :*)
From: robie@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. William Robie; POSI (GRAD))
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Diane Bleything is FAMOUS!
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:24:09 GMT
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County

I just thought that this would be a nice way to inform a rec.antiques
contributor of some good news ....

About six weeks ago, I posted a request for early aviation materials.  A
very pleasant lady -- Diane Bleything -- responded that she had a photo
(which had been her grandfather's) that needed a good home.  The photo
was of a young military pilot, taken in 1917, standing beside an airplane
after his first flight.  She offered it to me for a very reasonable price
(one a grad. student could even afford!).

As it turns out, my publisher agreed with me that the photo would be suitable
for the book I was just completing, so DIANE BLEYTHING will now appear in
print (photo credit accompanying the caption) in:

For the Greatest Achievement:  A History of the Aero Club of America and the 
National Aeronautic Association (Washington and London: Smithsonian Institution
Press, 1993).

The book should be released in mid-January.  Congratulations, Diane! (and 
many thanks!)

Bill
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
From: phil@stupid.cgrg.ohio-state.EDU (Phil Ritzenthaler)
Subject: WANTED: fix for reproducer on 1912 Victrola
Reply-To: phil@cgrg.ohio-state.edu
Organization: Advanced Computing Center for Arts & Design
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:20:30 GMT

I have a 1912 floor model (Model XXI) Victrola that I have restored  . . . 

Except for the reproducer.  The bakolite is cracked and the rest of the
?rubber? is falling apart.

Could someone point me to where this could be fixed??

Also, I could use some new needles . . . are there any sources for this?

Thanks . . .

-- 
Phil Ritzenthaler       Advanced Computing Center for the Arts & Design (ACCAD)
Systems Administrator   The Ohio State University
                        UUCP: ...!{pyramid,killer}!cgrg.ohio-state.edu!phil
(614) 292-3416          INTERNET: phil@cgrg.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
From: sbambara@ent1.ent.ncsu.edu (Stephen Bambara)
Subject: antiques show
Originator: sbambara@ent1.ent.ncsu.edu
Organization: Dept. of Entomology - NCSU, Raleigh, NC
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 12:07:46 GMT


 	Charlotte, North Carolina has a large flea market every weekend,
but the first weekend of every month includes an "antique show".  There
are two times each year (spring & fall) when they are particularly large
with many out of state dealers from up and down the east coast.  The
fall show hits November 6,7,8.  If you want to pay dearly for sneak
preview or early buyers, you can go Nov. 4th or 5th.  They advertise 
5000 dealers.
	The Expo Center is located on Statesville, Rd. and the
information phone # is 1-800-824-3770.
	I would like to hear about other events accross the country such
as Hillsville, VA or Brimfield, MA.
Even if I can't make it this year, perhaps I can someday if I am in the
area.  Others might feel the same.  ?
 
	  
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=========================================================================
     Stephen Bambara                 phone (919) 515-3140 
     Box 7626                        fax   (919) 515-7746
     Raleigh, NC 27695               internet sbambara@ent.ncsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
From: mxl@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (marc.a.levy)
Subject: Silver Candlestick
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:59:47 GMT

Actualy, its more of a candleabra, Holds 3 candles, and is
sterling silver.  There is a imprint of a unicorn head on the
base.  There are no other markings,


Is there any way I can find out what this is, and what the
value is?

Marc
.

Newsgroups: rec.antiques
From: schutt@netcom.com (David G. Schutt)
Subject: Re: Restore/Refurbish antiques in Bay Area
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 04:52:15 GMT

sparks@miata.esd.sgi.com (Sarah E. Parks) writes:


>Does anyone know of a person/store who is reputable and reasonably -priced
>for antique restoration in the Bay Area?  I have a few items, including
>2 wardrobes and an Empire-style couch, that have seen better days.

>Any recommendations or ideas on where to look would be appreciated

I have not used them personally, but I have always heard that the
Griffel Furniture Shop in San Jose is the premier place for first
quality work--not inexpensive (408) 295-4000.
!
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
From: millios@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (william.l.millios)
Subject: Re: Gustav Stuckley
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:18:10 GMT

Annie:

Here's some stuff I had saved up on Stickley from the rec.woodworking
conference:


Newsgroups: rec.woodworking
From: sundance@iies.ecn.purdue.edu (Richard L McIntyre)
Subject: apothecary chest
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:39:20 GMT

Does anyone in the Maryland,D.C.,Virginia area know of
or have an apothecary chest?If you do please contact
Jerry at 202-268-6436 in Bowie,Maryland.
From: mouse@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: Syracuse China
Date: 7 Oct 92 09:00:06 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Sep30.173920.1410@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu>, sachs@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a set of Syracuse China from the early 60s (when they made
> fine china). 
> Two questions:
> 
> 1-Does anyone know how I can find out the name of the pattern? It's
> white with a thick olive-green border. The bowls, coffee pot and
> other non-plates are all olive on the outside, white inside.
> 
> 2- Does anyone know how to figure out replacement value? My movers
> just 'lost' a lot of my stuff, including the box that had the very
> neat teapot in it. I need to figure out a replacement cost (as if
> one can find 30 year old china...).
> 
> Thanks a lot,
> 
> Hilary
> 
> p.s.  please email direct: sachs@guvax.georgetown.edu

Hi, Hilary...

Well, I dug into some really old stuff and I don't know if it will
help or not, but here goes...

The Walter Drake China Exchange (95-6 Drake Building, Colorado
Springs, CO  80940... that was their last address) lists 12 patterns
of china that they had in stock at that time.  Looking at the
little pictures in their brochure, however, only one of the
patterns has a green border.  It is called "Candlelight"... but
I don't know if that is the same as what you have.  If you were
to contact them for their newest brochure, you might have some
luck.  They also have an 800 number, so it wouldn't cost you
anything to chat with them.  (1-800-525-9291)  Let us know if
you do succeed.  We'd like to hear.

Nancy 

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From: ab900@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rick Rocheleau)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: Gustav Stuckley
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:47:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1bg58jINNl35
Reply-To: ab900@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rick Rocheleau)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, apetty@dsd.es.com (Annie Petty) says:

>	Could anyone share information with me (or suggest 
>	where I could find the information) on a furniture
>	maker named Gustav Stuckley (sp? Stickley).  

Gustav Stickley is pretty much considered the best furniture maker
in the Arts and Crafts movement. Any book on the subject should have
more information. Try looking up "Arts & Crafts Movement, American" 
or "Mission Furniture" at the library.

>	I understand there were 2 brothers in New Jersey that hand made 
>	furniture.  

The brothers you've heard of may have been L & J.G. Stickley. There
was also an Albert Stickley and a Charles Stickley. Gustav was from
E. Aurora, New York.
-- 
Rick Rocheleau              | "Sex is dirty only when it's done right"
ab900@cleveland.Freenet.Edu |  - Woody Allen
   B0/4 t c g+ k(++?) h     |
From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Antique chair for sale
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:38:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

From crawford Wed Oct  7 09:27 EDT 1992
From: crawford (Lauren L. Crawford)
Posted-Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 9:27:52 EDT
Received-Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 09:27:52 -0400
Message-Id: <9210071327.AA22181@ben.dev.upenn.edu>
Subject: antique chair 
To: crawford (Lauren L. Crawford)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 9:27:52 EDT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Status: RO

 Antique chair for sale.
 
 1840s-1860s (circa) gentleman's library chair
 
 Light walnut
 
 Newly reupholstered with deep tufting in forest green
 
 (215)732-2404 (please don't send email)

 Ask for Phil.
 
 Asking $1000.
 
 
 
 
 


-- 

-- 
Lauren Crawford  //  crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu
From: clr60@ccc.amdahl.com (Catherine L Reck)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Antique Marble For Sale
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:46:36 GMT
Reply-To: clr60@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Catherine L Reck)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

For Sale:

Antique white marble. Two pieces from a wash stand, the top and splash
guard. Beveled edges. Top is 30" wide by 16 1/4" deep and 1/2" thick.
Splash guard is 28 1/2" wide by 10" deep and 1/2" thick.

Marble is quite expensive, if this is too large you can have it cut down
or otherwise reworked. Asking $125.00.

Catherine Reck
clr60@ctp.amdahl.com
(408) 944-5120 (work)
From: miller@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Geoffrey M. Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: WANTED: Purses
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:17:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw2IKx.1vF
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

PURSES WANTED:

Painted ring mesh and enameled flat mesh purses made by Whiting & Davis Co.
and Mandalian Mfg. in the 1920s and 1930s.  Must be in mint or near mint
condition.  Call or e-mail for want list.  Sherry Miller (217) 253-4991.
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
From: miller@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Geoffrey M. Miller)
Subject: WANTED: Celluloid Boxes and Albums
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:13:35 GMT


CELLULOID BOXES AND ALBUMS WANTED:

Collar boxes, glove boxes, jewelry boxes, shaving mug boxes, comb/brush/
mirror boxes, autograph albums, photo albums, etc.

Prefer those with pictures of ladies, children, or flowers - will consider
others.  Must be in excellent condition - no split seams, cracked celluloid,
or missing hardware.  

Call or e-mail for illustrated want list.  Sherry Miller (217) 253-4991
From: ls3q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Lisa M. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: Price Guides
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:09:48 GMT
Organization: Biological Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Mike + Co.
    Perhaps instead of listing prices seen in price guides, we could
list the prices of similar items we have seen for sale, or the prices
that we have seen items go for at auction - with desciptions of the
peices, of course.  Perhaps this will serve to bring the downside-market
effect into account.

-lms
From: nottingh@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Liesl K Nottingham)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Antique Cameos/ Cameos
Date: 16 Oct 92 06:39:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


I collect antique cameos.  Does anyone else collect cameos?
If so do, e-mail me at nottingh@eniac.seas.upenn.edu.


Thanks,
  
Liesl Nottingham
From: knudsen@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (michael.j.knudsen)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: Radio
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:04:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsd.1992Oct15.190439.11346
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <92279.204713U35162@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U35162@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
> I would tend to agree with the previous response to your
> query stating that radio/phono combinations are not very "collectible"
> and therefore don't command a very high price. However, the 1992 edition

Yes, it seems that R/P consoles are hard to sell because of their bulk
and the usually poor condition of the phono section.
However, I did recently grab a small Grundig console partly to have
a way to play my 78s.  I say "partly" since little excuse is needed
to own any Grundig, although this was pretty "new" by my standards.
Anyone else interested in Grundig radios?

> of "The Collector's Guide to Antique Radios" (Marty and Sue Bunis)
> prices your radio at $110.00, in good working condition. It was made in 1948.

This book is well worth the $18 or so price -- just to drool over the
pictures.  I have tended to use its valuations lately when deciding
to buy a radio, tho I wonder about some of them.

I also know someone who restores and sells old sets, and generally it
seems the easiest sets to sell are table models.  Cathedrals get higher
prices.  But really good consoles sell for more than most table toppers.

Real "antiques" -- battery sts with three dials and such -- appeal only
to hard-core collectors and aren't worth as much as I'd thought.

> The book lists Stromberg-Carlson's address as 100 Carlson Road, Rochester NY,
> and says "S-C was well-known for its commitment to quality and their
> products are often called the 'Rolls Royce' of radios."

I had a ca. 1950 small S-C table model that was nice but no big deal.
However, I once had the innards of an incredible mid-30s console set
with 5 bands, 2 IF stages, and a treble control that widened the IF
bandwidth when turned up.  At least a Mercedes :-)

Any other radio nuts on this netlist?
-- 
	"I don't think so, Al"
  Programmers Do It on paper.  So do puppies.
	knudsen@iexist.att.com