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From: sado@ellis.uchicago.edu (Rob Sadowski)
Subject: Re: Aerosmith
Reply-To: sado@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:48:22 GMT

In article <shdhjINN3oj@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> dcarter@supra.East.Sun.COM writes:

>Also: Brad Whitford made an album in the early 80's but I forget the name of 
>it.

It is entitled "Whitford/St. Holmes" and was a collaboration with Derek
St. Holmes, who has worked with Ted Nugent, among others.



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From: irelanda@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Charlie Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: TMBG Apollo 18 CD Mastering.
Summary: Fingertips Doesn't work
Keywords: European Issue
Date: 8 Apr 92 10:00:55 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

I bought Apollo 18, and really wanted to hear what fingertips would be like.
Unfortunately the track listing was only 18 Tracks,  not  the 38 as expected
from the cover of the cd.

The liner notes say that the disk was mastered at Masterdisc NYC, and that the
"Music on this CD has been placed with reference to Modern CD players with the
Shuffle function".

does the American version of the CD have all 38 tracks?
I was disappointed with my copy, of only 18 tracks.  Great Music though!


Andrew
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From: becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Marillion -- The Theiving Magpie (La Gazza Ladra)
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:01:35 GMT
Organization: UB

Question: Has this album been released domestically on CD? I've seen only the 
import versions, and asfter hearing my friend's copy, I decided that I must 
have it on disc.

Any help is appreciated.

--Don


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From: cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman)
Subject: Re: Request: Rush Freewill Lyrics
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:50:32 GMT



Freewill
--------
There are those who think that life is nothing left to chance,
A host of holy horrors to direct our aimless dance.

A planet of playthings,
We dance on the strings
Of powers we cannot perceive
"The stars aren't aligned
Or the gods are malign"-
Blame is better to give than receive.

ou can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice.
If you choose not to decide, you still haven't made a choice.
you can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill;
I will choose a path that's clear-
I will choose Free Will.

There are those who think that they were dealt a losing hand,
The cards were stacked against them- they weren't born in lotus-land.

All preordained-
A prisoner in chains-
A victim of venomous fate.
Kicked in the face,
ou can't pray for a place
In heaven's unearthly estate.

Each of us-
A cell of awareness-
Imperfect and incomplete.
Genetic blends
With uncertain ends
On a fortune hunt that's far too fleet.


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From: Kevin.J.Feury@dartmouth.edu (Kevin J. Feury)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: ATTENTION IRONMAIDEN FANS (Janick Gers)
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:28:55 GMT
 <1992Apr15.173256.4102@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <1992Apr15.173256.4102@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>
cook@vcsesu.enet.dec.com (The Cookster!) writes:

> 	Of course he will be. Good riddance to that pathetic peice of
> 	shit Adrian "I want to be a pop star" Smith. He consistently
> 	wrote the worst material of the band, and his guitar playing
> 	pales in comparison to Murray.

though i agree with you on his newer, pop image, i think he wrote some
great stuff for maiden...'22 acacia avenue', 'flight of icarus', '2
minutes to midnight' and 'wasted years' come to mind immediately. those
are some of my favorite maiden songs. and i don't agree about his
ability. he and dave interpsersed every solo on every album and every
live performance. each could play any part of any song. i saw them
together on several tours and many shows and they rarely played the
same part as the night before or the tour before. despite the excessive
cheesiness of a.s.a.p., adrian wrote some great riffs and lyrics for
maiden.
  
> 	I like Gers, and he's fantastic live.

agreed. even on bruce's solo tour he was rather lively. besides, they
need someone to counter dave, who has the tendency to stand in one
place on stage for long periods of time as though. not that he's bad,
but he pales compared to 'arry or bruce in terms of movement and
energy.

-kev.
From: yudof@stipple.seas.upenn.edu (Seth A Yudof)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Sammy Hagar- pre-Van Halen
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:03:26 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Apr13.200837.29370@acsu.buffalo.edu> v071qhek@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.
edu (MR. RIGHT) writes:
>I'm a Sammy Hagar fan and I need to know the names of his albums before
>he joined with Van Halen.  I already have VOA, what are the titles of his
>other albums.  Your help would be greatly aprreciated.


I know that one of them was called "Three Lock Box."  There is also, of course,
the solo album he did after he joined VH.  Eddie played bass on it.  It was
originally self-titled "Sammy Hagar," but I think that the name has been
changed to "I Never Said Goodbye."

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From: earendil@wizard.etsu.edu (Allen Garvin)
Subject: Re: What is Rock-N-Roll?
Reply-To: earendil@wizard.etsu.edu (Allen Garvin)
Organization: East Texas State University, Commerce, TX
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 03:17:22 GMT


I wont go into the history of the term rock'n'roll here, but I will mention
that it occurs in blues numbers from as early as the twenties. The first
song title to contain the words dates from 1949 (I can't recall the name
or the singer). One record I have from that year is "All she wants to do
is rock" by Wynnonie Harris, which has the lines "All she wants to do is
rock and roll all night long" and I doubt if he's talking about listening
to the radio. The term began to be applied to the musical style in the 
early fifties, probably given to the music because "rythm & blues" is 
considered mainly black music.

Anyway, a definition of the term I wouldn't hazard myself. One I heard
that is as probably able to please everyone is simply "latter twentieth
century black-rooted popular music". That will include most every style.

Sometimes "rock'n'roll" is used to speak of rock music before 1964 and the
British invasion, and "rock and roll" (or simply "rock") is used when
refering to music recorded since 1964.

Anyway, I always like to think of the words the Showmen used back in '61:
   Don't try to nickname it,
   You might as well claim it
   It'll be here for ever and ever
   Ain't gonna fade, never no never.
If I can remember correctly.

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From: feygin@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Pink Floyd
Date: 12 Apr 92 18:38:26 GMT
Reply-To: a-feygin@uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker) writes:
}rone@skat.usc.edu (Ron A. Echeverri) writes:
}>Is there a Pink Floyd album besides "The Final Cut" in which there is not at
}>least one instrumental track? 
}Meddle

One of these days is really an instrumental

}Wish You Were Here
}Animals

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Top ten alternative G'n'R names (was Re: Axl Rose Sucks)
From: kmagnacca@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:06:06 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <1992Apr10.014331@IASTATE.EDU>, alib@IASTATE.EDU (Richard A Brown) writes:
> There seem to be enough Guns 'n' Roses haters here to make this
> an interesting thread...
> Just for fun, what are your favorite alternative names for
> G'n'R (if we get more than ten, we can talk about a top ten list)?
> 
> I have heard:
> 
> Duds and Losers
> Puds and Posers
> Runny Noses
> Prunes and Raisins
> 
> Anyone?

   It doesn't really fit in with the general theme of those above (or with the
band, for that matter), but the best one I've seen was "Nuns 'n' Moses."

Karl Magnacca

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From: jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender)
Subject: Re: Definitive RUSH RAP
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 22:26:54 GMT


>IT IS GEDDY!!!!!!!!!! (the 'chat'/rap on RTB)
>repeat: IT IS GEDDY!!!!!!!
>
>they used some electronic pitchshifting and made him into the deep-voiced
>rapper that we all knew he was  :)

	Ok, so when are we going to see him with the thick gold chaines, and
a Raiders jacket?   :-)
From: v107rb57@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Dean Thomas Sebastian Carrano)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Rush's YYZ  (trivia tidbits)
Summary: Look at those lyrics again.
Keywords: rush
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:50:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <73230@netnews.upenn.edu>, lobaugh@a.chem.upenn.edu (John Lobaugh) writes...
>Can some kind soul tell me who speaks the word "Subdivisions" in the 
>chorus of the same-titled song on the same-titled album? (for example
> 
>Subdivisions (spoken)
>In the high-schools (sung)
>in the shopping malls 
>Subdivisions (spoken)
>etc.
>)
> 
>When I've seen them live (3 times now :)) and on ASOH (A Show of Hands)
>Alex does it but in the studio version it sounds like several people 
>do it (?) I think a similar thing is done in Neurotica on RTB.
Well, from what I understand Neil says "Subdivisions".  The album is "Signals",
by the way.

> 
>Also, I know that all the members of Rush are intensely private people
>now and guard their privacy jealously. Yet I feel that Neil's writing has
>become much more personal in the last 5-10 years (especially on RTB). 
>Any opinions and/or facts on this?
I think this brings up a very interesting point.  I'm a big Rush fan, but when
I see people on the net talking about how brilliant Neil's lyrics are, I always
sort of scratch my head.  Lately, I think Neil has been in a lyrical rut.
I hold the exact opposite opinion that you have, actually.  I think he tends to
generalize too much.  A lot of the lyrics ("High Water", "Show Don't Tell",
"Dreamline", most of "Power Windows", etc.) are of a very predictable form -
"We do this, we do that", etc...I don't think that's personal at all - by
attributing his feelings to the whole human race instead of to himself, he's
*distancing* himself from them.  It comes off sounding like a psychology
textbook, and I can't really get into it.  The Rush lyrics I like are
the ones that don't have this distancing technique, like "Distant Early
Warning", "Entre Nous", "Red Barchetta", etc.  To me, these seem more
heartfelt...Comments appreciated...

> 
>-- 
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>lobaugh@a.chem.upenn.edu        Box 102 Rm. 546
>Phone:215-898-0096(voice only)  Philadelphia, PA
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Dean Carrano
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From: reza@Voyager.me.utexas.edu (Alireza Vali)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Pink Floyd
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:10:51 GMT
Organization: Center for Space Research Imaging Lab, University of Texas at Austin

>>>Is there a Pink Floyd album besides "The Final Cut" in which there is not at
>>>least one instrumental track? 
>> 
>>Meddle
[...]
>>None of these have instrumentals.
[...]
>   None of those have instumentals?  Since when....
>Meddle is one of the most instumental albums of all.
>First it has "One of these days" .  With only  the one line
>"one of these days I'm going to chop...." it can hardly be called

It's "One of these days, I'm going to cut you into little pieces."
You're right, that song is really an instrumental, because even that line
is a tape playback in concert.

>anything but an instumental.  Esspecially since this line is not sung.
>If "ECHOES" has any lyrics I'd sure like to know cause I've always thought
>of it as a half-hour instumental.

Good grief!  When was the last time you listened to "Echoes?"  It most
decidedly has lyrics.  Listen again.  I used to think that Wright sang
the first half, and Gilmour the second half of the lyrics, but if you
watch & listen to the "Pink Floyd at Pompeii" live peformance video,
you'll note that in the first half Wright's voice is dominant.  The
surprise was that Gilmour was also singing but in a voice high above
Wright's.  In the second half, Gilmour's voice is dominant and Wright
is singing higher above.  Someone can check me on that if they wish.

[...] rest deleted.
From: guido@netlink.cts.com (Joel Cherney)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: David Gilmour's 1978 solo album
Date: 13 Apr 92 05:52:13 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA


  I just picked up a vinyl of a self-titled salbum by David Gilmour for a 
buck.  I like it quite a bit... what's the net.opinion on this?

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From: msaleski@tegra.COM (Mark Saleski)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Buddy Holly vs. Elvis
Date: 17 Apr 92 10:23:32 GMT
Organization: Tegra, Inc., Billerica, MA
In-reply-to: lita@next02pg2.wam.umd.edu's message of 16 Apr 92 19:38:48 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.193848.16003@wam.umd.edu> lita@next02pg2.wam.umd.edu (Lisa Helene Helfman) writes:

  > 
  >    While the rest of the US is deciding which Elvis they want on their  
  >    stamps, some of us have been debating, for a very long time now, "Who's  
  >    the real King of Rock-n-Roll?"  Some of us strongly believe that if Buddy  
  >    Holly had not died tragically, Elvis would be nothing.  What do you think?  
  >    Who's the better of the two- Buddy Holly or Elvis?
  > 

    well...i think the choice should be between Buddy Holly & Carl Perkins...then of 
    course i'd have to choose Chuck Berry  ;-)
From: gp0o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Glenn Platt)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Peter Gabriel Song in "Until The End Of The World"
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:24:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.QduR7qi00WBN454ndI
Organization: Doctoral student, Industrial Administration, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Is the song in the Wim Wender's movie "Until The End Of The World" by
Peter Gabriel available anywhere at all? It isn't on the soundtrack, I
have to assume it will be on the upcoming album -- do I have to wait
till then?


*****************************************************************************
"She said she preferred handsome men, but for me she would make an exception"
-Leonard Cohen
*****************************************************************************

Glenn J. Platt, Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh PA, USA.
e-mail to: gp0o@andrew.cmu.edu
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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: YESYEARS Question
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:21:29 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

How you feel about the concerts has a lot to do with how long they
were touring up to that point.

  Case in point: I saw Union twice - once on the first leg of the tour
- at Nassau Colosseum in Long Island, New York.  I saw them again on
the second leg, at the Garden State Arts Center, in Holmdel, New
Jersey.  Although the first time was bigger, and much more elaborate,
it was lacking something.  I suspect this was due to the fact that the
eight members didn't have enough time practicing as one group.

The ABWH performance I saw (Madisson Square Garden, New York - last
stop of the tour) blew the Long Island show away.  The second time
seeing Union was far better than before.  They were playing as one
large band, instead of the two keyboardists and the two guitarists and
the two drummers mimicking each other.  That show was equal to, if not
better than ABWH.

Mind you, I loved all three of them anyway.  Yes is like pizza (which
in turn is like sex....) even when it's bad, it's still better than
most other groups.

To see Yes performing "Awaken", and to see ABWH perform "Close To The
Edge" came close to a religious experience for me....

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From: jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender)
Subject: Re: Vivian Campbell joins Def Leppard
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 21:59:04 GMT


In article <1992Apr15.060922@IASTATE.EDU> alib@IASTATE.EDU (Richard A Brown) writes:
>The Des Moines Register reported yesterday that Vivian Campbell
>has joined Def Leppard.
>
>--
>Ali Brown	
>


	PLEASE DON'T LET IT BE TRUE! Vivian Campbell is good, but he's just
not Def Leppard material. Though, as I said earlier, I probably won't be happy
with anyone they pick te replace Clark.



						James B


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From: goathunter@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Help with ELO song
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:27:34 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Apr13.194254.182552@zeus.calpoly.edu>, eanderso@zeus.calpoly.edu (Eric W. Anderson "ERK") writes:
>>The backwards part is at the *beginning* of "Fire on High."  Whether
>>that's what the original poster meant or not, "Fire on High" begins
>>with the following message backwards:
>>
>>	The music
>>	Is reversible
>>	But time is not.
>>	Turn back.....
>>	Turn back.....
>>	Turn back.....
>>
> 
> Does anyone know what is said on the album Secret Messages?
> 
It starts and ends with "Welcome to the show.....  Welcome to the
show...."

The *coolest* part is the song whose title escapes me now---in the
middle of the song, there are some lyrics that are backwards, yet
still musically correct!  Pretty wild.

My favorite backwards piece of any song is in the middle of the J. Geils
Band's "No Anchovies, Please" off of _Love Stinks_:

	"....and they took her to a strange foreign-speaking
	nation...."  (followed by some "foreign-speaking")

When played backwards, the "foreign-speaking nation" says:

	"It doesn't take a genius to know the difference between
	 chicken shit and chicken salad...."

Hunter
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From: john@percy.rain.com (John Cavanaugh)
Subject: Re: David Gilmour's 1978 solo album
Organization: Percy's mach, Portland, OR
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:34:47 GMT

guido@netlink.cts.com (Joel Cherney) writes:


>  I just picked up a vinyl of a self-titled salbum by David Gilmour for a 
>buck.  I like it quite a bit... what's the net.opinion on this?

Quite a bargain for a buck!  Great CD; I think his second disc is a good
buy as well...You can probably find _About Face_ at record stores for that
"Nice Price" for less than $10...  
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From: jager@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Riaan de Jager)
Subject: Jethro Tull in Germany
Keywords: Tethro Tull
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 11:58:06 GMT
Summary: Jethro Tull in Germany

Hi

I saw a poster on my way to work this morning about an "Acoustic
Jethro Tull performance", or something (Germany). Does anyone know more 
details about this? What will be featured etc.?

Thanks
Riaan
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From: narpet@cs.mcgill.ca (Greg WARD)
Subject: Re: Use of term "progressive rock"
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:24:17 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.124012.6387@cs.unca.edu> mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) writes:
>I've never heard this. The bands above that are progressive
>rock certainly don't have a social message as their theme!
>I wouldn't believe this.

I agree that a "progressive social message" is not an inherent part of
progressive rock, but what about the last song on Marillion's *Script
for a Jester's Tear* (sorry, can't remember the name offhand -- you
know, the one about Northern Ireland).  What about Rush's `Heresy', or any
number of songs by them concerned with individuality vs society?  What
about Yes' `Yours Is No Disgrace', about Vietnam soldiers if I recall
correctly?  (Might have been `Starship Troopers', sorry if I confuse any-
one other than myself.)  

But no, these *don't* make bands "progressive" -- that's generally
applied to the music.


>You can't convince people once their minds are made up. Lead
>by example: burn all the REM records you can find, and play Yes 
>songs like Close to the Edge as loud as you can, as often
>as you can.
>
>Only you can prevent the decline and horror that is modern music :)!

Piffle!  Sure, REM may not make use of the incredible instrumental
and compositional talents associated with Yes or Rush, but they're still
a fine rock band.  I don't worship them (actually, I don't even have
any of their albums, but I'd like that to change), but I certainly
enjoy listening to their music.  Insulting others' tastes will get
you nowhere on this group...sorry.  ;-)

		Greg Ward (narpet@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca)