HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dana@locus.com (Dana H. Myers)
Subject: Re: bmw FI systems (was Re: Cheap Gas in BMW K-100 RS?)
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:11:04 GMT

In article <10459@wrgate.wr.tek.com> davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.045741.2800489@locus.com> dana@locus.com (Dana H. Myers) writes:
>>
>>(1) Isn't the Motronic EFI just one particular kind of Bosch system?
>>    (The old Bosch EFI was something like LE-Jetronic?)
>
>     The Motronic system is built in-house by BMW, and it is an open-
>     loop system, metering fuel without knowing what the airflow rate
>     is.  It does not have a airflow rate sensor at all.  It uses
>     throttle position, RPM, temperature, and O2 in the tailpipe to 
>     calculate fuel delivery.  It does not have a hot wire (unreliable
>     in motorcycle service) or a flapper (restricts airflow).

Are you *sure* BMW is responsible for the Motronic system?

If there is an O2 sensor in the tailpipe, isn't the system closed loop?

How does measuring the airflow make a system a closed loop system?

Did you mean to say "mapped" EFI system instead?


>     It does not.  There are a few, fancy engine management systems on
>     cars that sense detonation in the cylinders, using a piezo-electric
>     microphone-like sensor.  The systems then adjust the timing in an
>     attempt to alleviate the problem.  The Motronic system does not do
>     this.  At all.  It uses the O2 sensor to minimize exhaust
>     emissions.

  If the O2 sensor is used to minimize exhaust emissions, then isn't the
Motronic system closed loop?
-- 
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ 		| Views expressed here are	*
 * (213) 337-5136 		| mine and do not necessarily	*
 * dana@locus.com  DoD #466 	| reflect those of my employer	*
 * "Dammit Bones, spare me the lecture and give me the shot!"   *
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bergman@panix.com (Mark Bergman)
Subject: Re: mcy Insurance companies
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 04:47:31 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1992Aug12.093930@is.morgan.com> spgo@is.morgan.com (Stefan Goellner) writes:
>Bruce Martin
>White Plains, NY
>
>Westchester County.
>
>< 400 lb = $54/year liability
>> 400 lb = $110/year
>
>got a quote for theft on a '90 Duc 750 Sport ($5000) - $400.
>
>So far I own no bikes wich require collision or theft coverage.
>
>Stef
>
>	     DoD#0190		              spgo@is.morgan.com
>	'82 KZ550 (Commuter)		'84 750 Interceptor (Canyon Carver)
From: behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: DoD #'s
Keywords: shrinking in the cold
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:32:27 GMT
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.

In article <19104@drutx.ATT.COM> brucer@drutx.ATT.COM (RobinsonB) writes:
>In article <4508@prcrs.prc.com>, terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham) writes:
>+ In article <1992Jul31.200958.13110@kodak.kodak.com>, vec@sunshine.Kodak.COM (Vance Cochrane) writes:
>+ > Forgive my ignorance, but what does a DoD # mean? I see references to these 
>+ > in quite a few .sig's but I don't know what they mean.
>+ 
>+ Debauchers of Donuts,  the number represents how many donuts you can
>+ slide over your dick.
>+ 
>+ Your welcome,
>+ 
>+ Terry
>+ 
>
>
>	Oh dear.  Very *LARGE* donuts, I hope.   :(
>
>
>-- 
>    66
>     >
>     ^ .................. brucer "DoD's oddest prime member" (DoDoD #0002)

	Well, brucer, you *ARE* the person who admitted to having lost your
dick during the 2nd Annual Assault on Rollins Pass (tm).  As I recall, you
were just thrilled to find it so you wouldn't have to explain to your wife
what happened to it...

:-)
-- 
Chris BeHanna		DoD# 114      1983 Harley-Davidson FXWG Wide Glide
behanna@syl.nj.nec.com	              1984 Dodge Omni GLH (well, almost)

Disclaimer:  Now why would NEC agree with any of this anyway?
From: jnmoyne@lbl.gov (Jean-Noel Moyne)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Drunk Cagers (Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters)
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:24:28 GMT
Organization: Lauwrence Berkeley Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.243.64.149

In article <16rhcvINNdn@rodan.UU.NET> smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield)
writes:
>In article <5758@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
writes:
>>   You can always leave enough following distance if you are behind the drunk
>>so that you won't pile into his wreck.  Calling the cops is good though.
>>In fact, I did that once on a trip in my cage.   From behind I watched the
>>drunk drive his car up onto a guard rail.  He was sitting there with all four

>>wheels off the ground and gunning his engine trying to move when the cop
>>showed up.
>
>Just as a bit of amuzement, at the Burger King I used to work at in high
>school, we used to call the police whenever people who were drinking
>would go through the drive through.  We'd intentionally take our time
>with their order to get a good description of their vehicle.
>
>Conveniently, there was a speed trap less than a block away from the
>place that we'd get to sit and watch the cop pull out of as soon as the
>report went through, and catch the people...
>

	As much as I hate to see drunk drivers on the road (and I have been involved
in a hit and run accident with a car that was obviously driven by a drunk guy
while I was with my like-new bike I had bought 2 months before (gives you a few
reasons to hate the kind believe me, plus marks on the skin just to remember)).

	As much as I despise the person, well I despise even more people that have an
attitude like the one described above. I personally find denounciation like
this degrading.

	What about trying to talk to the guy for example ? With a few well chosen
words you can make him feel very miserable. There are other ways than pure
repretion like this, and especially vicious denounciation like what you've
described.

	JNM
From: dsc3jfs@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Jim Small)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Honda Helix or Elite
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:26:34 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Naval Medical Research & Development Command

In article <RKOU.92Aug14221935@corvus.ucs> rkou@corvus.ucs (Roger H. Kou) writes:
>
>howdy, 
>
>me being a poor student living in LA. transportation and parking, eh, 
>are kinda expensive. not to mention insurance, of course. so I am 
>thinking about getting a scooter. 
Think about going to a CHEAPER and BETTER SCHOOL.


>PS: has anyone tried transport a Helix/Elite on the back of their
>pickup(e.g. Toyota SR5)? how? was it a difficult task? too heavy? maybe?


No, but I've thought about running scooter SCUM over with a pickup truck.


USC=SCOOTER-SCUM

BLECH!

-- 
I love the 3b2
The 3b2 is my friend.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: Leaning
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:00:34 GMT

Alan Arthur (etlanar@slartibartfast.ericsson.se) wrote:
: Ive not been riding for very long now, but I went out on my longest trip so far
 blah blah
: While I was flying along a nice quiet country road, I noticed a strange 
: phenomena (sp?)... Although I could quite happily lean as far as I wanted to
: the left, there seemed to be some mental block which limited how far I could
: make myself lean to the right. 

YES YES YES!  I am exactly the same.  When I lived in Penhill, the road went 
down and then round to the left.  I could do 60-70 easily but coming back the 
other way, only 50ish.  Weird ain't it?


Nick (the Left is Best Biker)     DoD 1069    MAG 73516
K100RS  CB250RS  240DL Jetta1.3  Spagthorpe Labrador(DeLuxe-Auto) PS/255sx60-40

M'Lud.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Photo Radar
From: emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 20:38:09 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Mid Island Ham Network

john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) writes:

> Tuesday August 18 1992 17:53, R. Craig Dodson wrote to All:
> 
>  RCD> I've seen this posted here more than once, and although they may be
>  RCD> "poor" targets, they are targets just the same. Having several friends
>  RCD> who have gotten tickets on bikes (all radar clocked) over the years, le
>  RCD> me assure you that a bike is no Stealth fighter or SR-71. Hell, ever go
>  RCD> to a county fair where they time softball throws with a radar gun? A
>  RCD> softball would seem to be a much "poorer" target than a bike, let alone
>  RCD> a car or truck and yet the gun has no problem picking up the tiny 6"
>  RCD> sphere. Even your helmet alone is a good 12" (semi) sphere.
> 
> Abolutely. We've used police radar guns to measure the speed of 1/10th scale
> radio control cars, which have a radar signature somewhat less than the
> headlight on all street-legal bikes. Works fine.
> 


The real problem is when you're doing the speed limit, and some distance 
behind you is someone in, say, a cube van, doing 20 over the limit. 
Chances are the gun will see only the much larger signal reflected from 
the van, even though you are the lead vehicle. If the cop is fair (and 
competent), you won't get the ticket, but if not?

(Of course there is NO reason to suspect ANYONE reading this newsgroup of 
driving at the speed limit!)


Robert Smits Ladysmith BC  | I don't wanna pickle,
emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca      | just wanna ride my motorsickle - AG
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From: jlp@blink.att.com (Jon Peticolas(x7058))
Subject: Re: Wearing a helmet
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 22:08:36 GMT

paulb@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Paul Bonomo) writes:
(With modifications between the <> marks)


| ... can't waste a chance to issue the standard reply ...
| 
| I think it's TERRIFIC that there are so many <drivers> who <ride motorcycles>
| After all, what trait can natural selection of modern humans 
| work on besides intelligence?  My fondest dream is that you exercise
| your personal freedom to be stupid ... and that you smear your brains
| down the highway long before your moron offspring have a chance to breed
| with my kid.
| 
| ... the only time <driving a car> endangered my life was when I shared
| words to the above effect with a fellow (<car>-less) drinker in the local
| biker bar.

The opinions above are not mine.  The first time Paul gets hurt in spite 
of his helmet, they'll probably become his.
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From: ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: Torque VS. Horse power: What is the difference????
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 13:08:08 GMT

I wrote:
>
>torque = power * speed at which engine turns

to this I add,

I = VR

That should satisfy all those who E-mailed to me yesterday.

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine    DoD #275
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
From: flier@excalsys.excalsys.com (Rich Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Need Krausser Bag Mounting System
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:46:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: excalsys.0105001D.lcml4b
Reply-To: flier@excalsys.excalsys.com (Rich Reynolds)
Organization: Excalibur Systems, Inc.
X-Mailer: uAccess - Mac Release: 1.5



> > > > > Need help with Krausser Bag Mounting System < < < < <

I am posting this for a friend who just got a 1978 BMW R100/7.
He has the Krausser Bags but needs the mounting brackets, frame
and hardware.

Does anyone have same for sale of know of a source.  You can
either reply to me or call John at 303-394-2479.

If you reply to me, please do so by e-mail as my reading of
rec.motorcyles is rather sporadic at the moment.

Rich Reynolds

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From: ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Leaning
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:43:43 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <71371@apple.Apple.COM> thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson) writes:
>datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
>
>>YES YES YES!  I am exactly the same.  When I lived in Penhill, the road went 
>>down and then round to the left.  I could do 60-70 easily but coming back the 
>>other way, only 50ish.  Weird ain't it?
>
>This is probably because the radius of the turn is greater when turning left
>and riding on the left side of the road.
>-- 
>Paul Thompson    Apple Computer    DoD #47    Would you remember a 1-line .sig?

	In Japan, where we drive on the opposite side of the road from the US,
	the same thing happens: many people I know who are right handers, 
	including me, are better at left corners (where the radius is lesser)
	than the right ones.  And left handers feel the oppostite.

						Tetsuya Nishimura
						Kawasaki KZ750E (in US)
						Kawasaki GPz750F (in Japan)
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Drunk Cagers (Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters)
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:13:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <25578@dog.ee.lbl.gov> jnmoyne@lbl.gov (Jean-Noel Moyne) writes:
>In article <16rhcvINNdn@rodan.UU.NET> smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield)
>writes:
>>In article <5758@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
>writes:
>>>Calling the cops is good though.
>>>In fact, I did that once on a trip in my cage.

>>Just as a bit of amuzement, at the Burger King I used to work at in high
>>school, we used to call the police whenever people who were drinking
>>would go through the drive through.  We'd intentionally take our time
>>with their order to get a good description of their vehicle.

>As much as I despise the person, well I despise even more people that have an
>attitude like the one described above. I personally find denounciation like
>this degrading.
>What about trying to talk to the guy for example ?

what "denounciation" do you see?  if the guy's drunk, he's drunk.  the
"attitude" is one of working to make the streets safer for other people,
including any relatives of yours or mine that this drunk might kill tonight.

if they're young drunks, nothing you say will affect them.  if they're older
drunks, they don't give a shit to begin with, so see above.  if you mouth off
to the customer and he complains, you get fired (worked in fast food, seen it
happen).  nothing you're allowed to do while you're at work in the drive-thru
will change them, so call the cops and let the ticket/fine/jail time do the
persuading.  ymmv.

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From: hofmann@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Jenns Hofmann)
Subject: Tenere and Africa-Twin in the U.S.?
Originator: hofmann@hphalle1c.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:39:24 GMT


Here in Germany Yamaha sells the 'Super-Tenere 750' ( or 'XTZ 750').
Has it also been sold in the U.S. (maybe with another Name) ?
I have the same question about the Honda 'Africa-Twin' '650' or '750'!
Thanks, Jenns
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: Driving not riding
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 03:53:40 GMT

In article <5618@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:

>In the parts of Virginia that I now inhabit there are very few 6-lane
>(3 each way) highways, so the old keep right except to pass is the way
>to go.  I-81 is 2-lanes each way.  I stay right when I'm not passing people
>(which means I'm in the left lane a *lot*). 

i rode with you to the rcr, and my observations of your speeds (when i wasn't
busy travelling sideways) would not support your above statement.
or maybe you meant: "only when i'm not on my bike"

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|       DoD# 0598                         [insert witty disclaimer here]   |
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From: randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis)
Subject: Re: Motorcyclists get a break. (& Carbon Fiber)
Reply-To: megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:45:33 GMT

In article <JEP.92Aug17092759@thneed.cs.duke.edu> jep@cs.duke.edu (Jonathan E. Polito) writes:
|Fiber sidestand pads at the RCR!  They work great and are very cool!
|Another reason why the RCR is better...

  Better than what, pray tell?

Randy Davis				UUCP: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot			      megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013			 	      ucsd!megatek!randy

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: Terry.Baldridge@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Terry Baldridge)
Subject: GSA1100 info needed
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 00:02:19 GMT

My wife's brother (who has neither a wife or a llama) is looking at
procuring a GS1100 Suzuki.  It is an '82 model and is in 'good
shape'.  I know that early 80's Suzukis had alternator problems,
but are there any other things that should be closely looked at 
on these bikes?  Any problems or strong points about them that
need mentioning?   Wayne^H^H^H^H^HBlaine, do you have a 40 meg
file on them that you could send me?  Anyone know what insurance
companys think about them?

Any info on them would be appreciated and will be held in the strictist
confidence (if needed).

terry
--
terry.baldridge@bbs.oit.unc.edu     ---     xp2729@lsuvm.sncc.lsu.edu
                 BWM: The Ultimate RIDING Machine

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From: userSHLD@mts.ucs.UAlberta.CA (Michael Shields)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: 1988 BMW R100
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 14:07:52 GMT
Organization: MTS Univ of Alberta     

Fortunately, I'm going on 6-weeks vacation in 2 weeks.
Unfortunately, my GS's starter has begun to howl. Failure
seems imminent.
Fortunately, parts are available.
Unfortunately, cash ($665.23!!! for a new starter?!) is not.
Fortunately, a rebuild kit is avalable ($20).
Unfortunately, the only info. available is from a HAYNES manual
valid on R100s to 1985.
Fortunately, there is access to the many via READNEWS.
:)
Please, someone, send starter overhaul info. via REPLY.
A diagram would be most excellent; I can get a FAX # as
necessary....Thanx a billion!
From: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Drunk Cagers (Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters)
Date: 20 Aug 1992 14:42:13 GMT
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Originator: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <25606@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, jnmoyne@lbl.gov (Jean-Noel Moyne) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug19.195246.16451@balrog.dseg.ti.com> keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com
|> (Keith A. Schauer) writes:
|> >	Am I the only one totally lost?  denounciation?  Hell, he sandbagged
|> >	him.  I like it.  Are you really supposed to make a drunk driver
|> >	feel bad, and then let him drive off?  What kind of sense does that
|> >	make?  For a person to get hit by a drunk, and then want to let them
|> >	keep 'em driving while they're drunk is beyond me.  
|> >
|> 
|>    . . . . stuff about being 'nice' to drunk drivers deleted . . . 
|>
|> 	After all, I'm not concern with whatever you do, it's your problem, and I'm
|> not concerned.


What a selfish, shitty attitude!! I agree with Keith!!

OK, so you're not concerned with what other people do.  You're not
concerned with whether or not someone else drinks and drives as long
as they don't bother you?!  If you were at that burger king . . or 
in any situation with a drunk driver . . . and that driver pulled out 
and ran a kid down, or ran anyone over . . . what are you gonna say
then?  what are you going to feel?  Try thinking about others, not
just yourself!

What if the person at that burger king hadn't called the cops, and then
that drunk went out and killed a member of your family?  Yeah, I know,
hypothetical question, right? WRONG!  You don't know *who* that drunk
could run into.

I've been around others who were drinking, and in all but one case
the person in question became real defensive when I, or someone 
else, tried to talk them out of driving.  In a couple cases I had
to physically take the keys away from someone.  Yeah, they got real
mad then . . but later after they sobered up they thanked me . . .
and I slept a lot better that night knowing that I wouldn't be 
responsible for that drunk killing someone.

I know, not all drunk drivers get in wrecks and/or kill people, but
you can't know that ahead of schedule.  And I don't want that on my
conscience(sp?).  I would have a hard time living with myself if I
knew that someone else died because I was too lazy, or uncaring, to
do something about it.  Are you so cold as to not worry about anyone
but yourself?

As far as I'm concerned, anyone who drinks and drives is already
past the "let's be nice to them" stage.  They shouldn't even be on
the road.  They are taking my life, and *your* life, in their hands.

Kudos to those who call the cops!

Mark
From: hruska@bnr.ca (Bob Hruska P840)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Mariage...what happens???
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:08:46 GMT
Organization: bnr
Originator: hruska@brtph380

From article <1992Aug14.193251.2713@i88.isc.com>, by jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist):
> Then there are those chosen few like myself whose spouse says to them:
> "You know, every spring since I left Africa I've been itching to get back
>  on a bike... have you ever thought about getting a motorcycle?"
> 
> Truly, I say to you, I am multiply blessed.

Just yesterday I was transporting a new Suzuki GS500E for a friend.
My wife was with us and ran up and hopped on.  "Let's go" she said,
wanting a ride around the neighborhood.

We get back and she says "You look a lot better on that than your
ugly old motorcycle (82 CX500)"  "And it's a lot more comfortable"

Can you say "new bike" ????

Now if only I can decide between a Ninja or a Katana or..... or....


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From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: rec.motorcycles.harley
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:42:09 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Aug17.181521.203@cs.brown.edu> jdk@cs.brown.edu (Jennet Kirschenbaum) writes:

>when does the newsgroup rec.motorcycles.harley get going?

As soon as they get it fixed. Apparently the gearbox selected two
gears at once and wrecked the engine, but this is a well-known problem
and shouldn't take long to fix :-)
-- 
Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
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