From: msmiller@Rational.COM (Mark Miller)
Subject: Re: Best argument for single moderator and stupidity of voters
Organization: Rational
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:08:57 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.034023.20054@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, a74k110@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (Chris Peterson) writes:
|> 
|> 
|>    The debate was OK, but it was really evident that the format sucked, no one
|> could follow-up anything, nor good they answer any charges made by anyone.

Yes. We all need more mud-slinging.

|> This of course set up the perfect stage for Perot's usual wit but no substance
|> performance.  But of course, this was perfect food for the ignorant voters
|> out there.

Ah, so only ignorant people like Perot. Thank you for the insult. Gives
me more room to have fun with this.

|> Thursday' single moderator debate will show Ross's true colors,
|> he'll get his ass kicked.

Wrong. Dead wrong.

|> I think Clinton did OK, but he seemed a bit stiff
|> especially if people had to compare him with Perot. 

... or if you compared him to a hat rack ...

|> This ego trip campaign
|> of Perot's is really a pain in the ass.

Booo hooo ...

|> He originally decided to get out
|> because he couldn't win, he couldn't take the heat, and he was "disruptive
|> to the process". Those same facts exist today, except this time he's screwing
|> up Clinton's campaign.

Hat damn!

|> Imagine last nights debate without Perot, Clinton
|> would have put the last nail in the coffin of Bush and he would have
|> solidified his voters support.

No. If Perot hadn't been there we'd have had 90 minutes of Clinton and
Bush calling each other names and getting nothing accomplished.

|> Thank god, it looks like from the preliminary
|> numbers that Clinton didn't lose anything, but didn't solidify like he
|> could have without Perot in the picture.  The single moderator format
|> on Thursday will be the most favorable to Clinton, he's the only candidate
|> that has an indepth understanding of an economic plan and how government
|> works.

Wrong again. I've seen Perot in action on some of these electronic
Town Hall things - no way Clinton can match him for thinking on his
feet. I've seen people come up to ask questions LIVE and it was
100% clear they were out to nail Perot - but Perot always manages to
get his attacker to understand the point, and then come around. It's
the most amazing thing to watch.

|> In addition he's the best in spontaneous discussions, and he'll
|> come across more relaxed than he did in last night's debate.

Because his handlers will tell him to. George will probably try to
grow a personality for Thursday as well. That should prove entertaining.

|> Speaking of which,
|> I don't think he should have taken the advice of the people that told him
|> to appear calm and talk slowly without spouting of tons figures, personally 
|> I think he's at his best and most effective, and most natural when he talks 
|> fast and spouts figures left and right...it would have been a perfect antidote
|> to Perot.

It was pretty clear what Clinton was doing - his goal was not to
lose anything. Which he didn't. All he has to do is not screw up
and he may win this thing.

|> I think we'll definatly see that in Thursday's debate, and coupled
|> with the holes the will be blown in Perot's texas talk, he should be
|> the hands down winner on Thursday. At least I hope anyway. 

Nope. What you mistake for "texas talk" is just simply cutting through
the BS. And it works. And he's right. Perot communicates - and he
likes talking to people. Unlike most politicians who view talking
to voters as grunt work.

If Perot gets to the high-20's in the polls, this thing is basically
a Perot-Clinton race. Because ALL the Perot backers will vote, and
who knows how many Clinton people will. Bush is totally doomed.

	-MSM
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Mark S. Miller                                     msmiller@Rational.COM
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