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From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
Subject: Re: AGS+ & SUN & UDP
Date: 15 Apr 1992 22:52:35 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <562*/S=dsg/O=iac/PRMD=iris/ADMD=mensatex/C=es/@MHS> dsg@iac.es (Diego Sierra) writes:
>Well, if I type in the sunB or in the sunA (the sunA is the server for the 
>two subnets) "rusers -a" it only gives me information about the users on 
>the other sun's in the same subnet, but not of the other subnet. It seems 
>as if the UDP broadcast packets are not forwarded by the AGS+.

Since you didn't specify a port in the "ip forward-protocol udp" command,
only the default ports are forwarded: TFTP, DNS, IEN-116, Time, NetBios
Name Server, NetBios Datagram Server, BootP, and TACACS.

If you want RPC broadcasts to be forwarded, you have to use

ip forward-protocol udp 111
-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

barmar@think.com          {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
From: ianh@resmel.bhp.com.au (Ian Hoyle)
Subject: Redistributing routing info.
Organization: BHP Research - Melbourne Laboratories, AUSTRALIA
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 02:57:23 GMT

We have a large (and getting bigger rapidly) corporate WAN with lots of 
divisional LANS hanging off it.

At present we run RIP everywhere to distribute routing information, but
are now considering IGRP and OSPF as an alternative, more robust set of
routing protocols to handle IP routing on the WAN.

We have a Class B net address (134.18) and use a class C mask across all sites
for our subnets. As I understand it IGRP cannot redistribute RIP routing 
information for subnets (is this true for the latest versions of the router 
code??). This presents a problem since within several of the end LANs, 
there exist several subnets that use workstations with multiple interfaces
running routed/gated to gateway between the subnets at that site.

We also connect to the Internet which also mandates RIP. Can we have RIP
turned on for the interface that connects us to the outside world but use 
IGRP internally (this is an AGS+)??

What alternatives, pros/cons confront us??

a) Static routing tables in our RIP only workstations (ie. turn off rip).

b) connect all subnets in the LANS to the WANS via a cisco ie. don't use the
   workstations to do the routing.

c) I seem to recall the latest version (still under test?) of gated supports
   OSPF. Maybe this could be ported to the UNIX machines currently doing
   the routing and run OSPF internally.

c) do nothing

There are no doubt lots of other scenarios to choose from.

All help will be gladly received :)

	ian
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From: dave@racer.lkg.dec.com (Dave Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
Subject: Re: Press release
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:33:10 GMT
Reply-To: dave@racer.lkg.dec.com
Organization: TNSG - MCC Frameworks Technical Support

Fairly obscure references, still funny.

What the press release did not offer is that Len left Digital, where
he was working on TOPS20.  Now we know where he got all those ideas!

Side note:

  Shouldn't the company contact be "S Foonley", not "Bill"?  All my very
old KL10 Print sets are signed by "S Foonley".


=============================================================================
Stercorem pro cerebro habes.   <or>  Caput tuum in ano est.

I used to work on TOPS, but they gave me a lobotomy.  I lost 4 bits, and now
I have to work on a VAX.

Dave Lyons
Digital Equipment Corporation
550 King Street
Mail Stop LKG1-2/W10
Littleton, MA 01460-1289
dave@racer.ENET.dec.com  (or)  RACER::DAVE
From: ncherry@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (neil j.cherry)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
Subject: Re: Routing Appletalk phase 2
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:41:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbfsb.1992Apr7.124144.13691
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr6.224144.1690@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> barr@tramp.Colorado.EDU (BARR DOUG) writes:
>but it seems the Cisco won't respond to the Gator. The Cisco is supposed
>to send a ZIP packet and doesn't. Anyone know why?

I'm not an expert, so with a grain of salt..... I seem to recall dealing with a
problem like yours and we needed to setup the gator as the seed router. Sorry
I'm not the one who admin'd the routers just installed them at the time.

NJC
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
From: barr@tramp.Colorado.EDU (BARR DOUG)
Subject: Routing Appletalk phase 2
Organization: U
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 22:41:44 GMT

We have a Gator connected to a Cisco. The Appletalk (phase 2) traffic is
not getting routed. I hooked up the sniffer and could see both units
but it seems the Cisco won't respond to the Gator. The Cisco is supposed
to send a ZIP packet and doesn't. Anyone know why?
From: eddjp@edi386.UUCP ( Dewey Paciaffi )
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
Subject: Routing SNA
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:17:50 GMT
Organization: J.M. Huber Corp. Edison, NJ

Is anybody out there routing SNA with Ciscos? What does it cost	
per router? Does it work well?

Thanks
-- 
Dewey Paciaffi      eddjp@edi386.huber.com
From: lamy@sobeco.com (Jean-Francois Lamy)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
Subject: cisco router security meets FTP and loses?
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:37:09 GMT
Organization: Sobeco Ernst & Young

I want to limit exchanges between two networks to a limited set of services
(say telnet and ftp, both ways).  I need to prevent unwarranted connection
requests from the outside to anything except those services.  The simplest way
would have been to do the filtering in the following order

	 - allow connections requests to ports 21,23

	 - allow connections requests coming from a remote port 20 to
	   unpriviledged ports (so ftp can open a data channel -- in a typical
	   ftp exchange the requestor would have a port 3285 (say) connecting
	   to port 21, and on a "get" a data channel from the ftp server's
	   port 20 to the requestor's port 3286 (say) would be open).

	 - allow *established* connections to any port
	 
Now from what I see cisco somewhat inexplicably only allows filtering on 3 of
the 4 parameters of a tcp connection (i.e. there is no way to say: allow
packets from port 20 on machine 132.220.99.4 to go to any port >1023 on net
142.91 -- I'm assuming here that port 20 on 132.220.99.4 cannot be trivially
stolen).

So I'm back to allowing ports > 1023 from a single specific machine and adding
explicit deny clauses for services I happen to know are there in the net I'm
trying to shelter, which is a real mess (consider for example terminal servers
listening on printer ports, unix machines with daemons listening on port
2201), etc.

This goes exactly against what I was trying to acheive.  Is there any way to
only allow ftp and telnet requests between two nets?

Please reply by e-mail as I'd hate to lose answers on this one should I have
to skip news for a couple days and have valuable bits of wisdom expire on me.
I shall summarize.

Jean-Francois Lamy                                        |   lamy@sobeco.com
Research and Development, Computer Networks and Systems   |   lamy@sobeco.ca
Sobeco Ernst & Young, Montreal, Canada H2Z 1Y7            |   uunet!sobeco!lamy
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
From: William "Chops" Westfield <billw@regal.cisco.com>
Subject: Re: cisco boxes, x.25, & isdn
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:09:09 PDT

    Does cisco make an x.25/TCP-IP protocol converter?  If that's not a
    good idea how do other peple resolve this problem (withour going from
    x.25 PAD to a TELNET box)?

Yes, we do make an x.25/tcp-ip/lat protocol translator.  It's available as
a software option on the IGS/R router, or in a standalone multibus chasis.
The IGS also supports concurrent routing over the X.25 link.

Bill Westfield
cisco Systems.
From: ssw@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (steven wallace)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
Subject: What does ignored mean  for FDDI...
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:30:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: bronze.1992Apr8.233019.12902
Organization: Indiana University

What exactly does ignored mean in the context of show interface.

We're seeing about an ignore a second during peak times (About double the
traffic indicated below).  Thinking it was some fiber or transducer
problem, we've replaced fiber applique, check the fiber loss (less than 8db
at 1300nm).  This is a long fiber run (about 8000 feet).

Fddi 0 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware type is cBus Fddi, hardware address is aa00.0400.50dc
  Internet address is 129.79.5.174, subnet mask is 255.255.255.0
  MTU 4470 bytes, BW 100000 Kbit, DLY 100 usec, rely 255/255, load 1/255
  Encapsulation SNAP, loopback not set, keepalive not set
  ARP type: SNAP, ARP Timeout 4:00:00
  Phy-A state is active, neighbor is B, cmt signal bits 08/20C, status ILS
    Brk 2, Con 2, Tra 0, Nxt 12, Sig 10, Join 1, Vfy 1, Act 1
  Phy-B state is active, neighbor is A, cmt signal bits 20C/08, status ILS
    Brk 1, Con 1, Tra 0, Nxt 11, Sig 10, Join 1, Vfy 1, Act 1
  CFM is thru A, token rotation 5000 usec, ring operational 3d10
  Upstream neighbor aa00.0400.4fdc, downstream neighbor aa00.0400.5adc
  Last input 0:00:00, output 0:00:00, output hang never
  Output queue 0/40, 46 drops; input queue 0/75, 50 drops
  Five minute input rate 300000 bits/sec, 448 packets/sec
  Five minute output rate 257000 bits/sec, 319 packets/sec
     357440713 packets input, 435315385 bytes, 4 no buffer
     Received 4156217 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants
     27397 input errors, 0 CRC, 27397 frame, 0 overrun, 322419 ignored, 0
abort
     271179275 packets output, 1942286899 bytes
     0 output errors, 0 collisions, 2 interface resets, 0 restarts
     24 transitions



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Manager Network Operations    |  wallaces@iubacs          (bitnet)
Indiana University            |  (812) 855 - 0960         (voice)
                "NETOPS - We make the NET work."
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Indiana University            |  (812) 855 - 0960         (voice)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
From: jerry@watchman.sfc.sony.com (Jerry Scharf)
Subject: two questions on routing obscure things
Organization: SONY Advanced Video Technology Center San Jose, CA USA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 22:26:13 GMT


I was wondering whether Cisco boxes route rfc1112 multicast traffic? Are there
any plans for supporting XTP? WHat do people out there think of XTP in general?

Thanks
--- 
 
-- 
Jerry Scharf	Systems and Network Administrator
Advanced Video Technology Center  Sony America, San Jose, CA
email: jerry@sfc.sony.com	Phone (408) 944-4989
From: sater@cs.vu.nl (Hans van Staveren)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
Subject: Re: traceroute to a cisco
Date: 16 Apr 92 07:44:05 GMT

barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin) writes:

>When I trace the route to a cisco router, it apparently ignores every other
>probe packet.  In the example below, Rome and Avignon are two ciscos that
>are on the same subnet (131.239.20).  This isn't critical, but I'm curious
>whether there's an obvious explanation or it's just a bug.

> Example deleted

Cisco's do not send more then one ICMP message per destination per second.
That probably explains it.

	Hans van Staveren
	Vrije Universiteit
	Amsterdam, Holland
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
From: elias@ictp.trieste.it (Elias Lubos )
Subject: cisco PPP
Keywords: cisco, sun, PPP
Organization: ICTP
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 13:03:06 GMT

Hi,

I would like to connect cisco MGS/3 and sun sparcstation 2 via
serial line with synchronous PPP protocol running 64 kb.
What are your experiences with PPP on cisco router ?

Thanks.

Lubos Elias
elias@ictp.trieste.it

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
From: williamm@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com (Martin Williams)
Subject: CISCO's and NFS File locking problems
Summary: problems with NFS file locking across CISCO AGS/2
Keywords: CISCO, NFS, lockd, Motorola MPC, Z-Mail
Organization: Motorola(Swindon-UK)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:00:41 GMT

We are experiencing a problem with NFS file locking. We have
several Motorola MultiPersonal Computers, these mount their 
mail spool partition from an MPC which is on a different ethernet
port of our AGS/2. Whilst using a package called Z-Mail we
are having problems, ie Z-Mail is apparently unable to NFS
file lock across the CISCO router. We are currenly running
a ver old rev of the gateway S/W [8.0.(13)] - we will be
upgrading shortly. Is the cisco likely to be the cause of this
problem?
Many thanks
Regards
Martin

-- 
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= Motorola Ltd, European Cellular Infrastructure Division, Swindon, UK
= Tel No (0793 545255)	E-Mail:	uunet!motcid!zeus!williamm
= Fax No (0793 618714)		williamm@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com
From: mskelton@wrdis01.af.mil (Mark Skelton)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
Subject: ip route 0.0.0.0
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:24:22 GMT
Organization: 1926CCSG Robins AFB


Sometime ago someone asked about using ip route 0.0.0.0 (gateway) (metric)
when using a software release version which couldn't handle the full
internet egp updates.  I experienced good results with that entry for networks
not in the routing table until the gateway i used went down, then if a trace
was done, the packets bounced between 2 routers which exchange rip. Since
then I have upgraded and taken out that entry.

				Mark Skelton (mskelton@logdis1.wr.aflc.af.mil)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
From: dss@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Don Salvin)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
Subject: Re: Slow response from IGS
Keywords: IGS slow
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:52:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: unix.204726
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Apr10.015921.23232@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au> darrell@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au (Darrell Boon) writes:
>I have installed an IGS to IGS link over a 64Kbps line.
>
>The router at my end becomes very very slow, every couple of days or so.

	[stuff deleted]

>Is this a known problem?
>
>Strange that a manual interface reset is required!

We experienced this problem also. I'm glad to have finally heard we
weren't the only ones! However, cisco has since found a fairly serious
memory managment bug related to bridge learned address table management,
which has this "slowness" problem in its list of observable
manifestations. Other problems observed were dead console ports, and
outright crashes. Since the bug is in learning table management, the
more churn there is in table management (the larger the number of
ethernet addresses to be managed), the more likely an individual router
appears to exhibit strange behavior.

Unfortunately, I do not believe the "fix" has made it into any
production releases yet. We have an interim release, which has proved
vastly more reliable than ANY previous release of cisco gateway code.
The bug affects both IGS and CSC/3 variants.

>Any help here would be appreciated,
>-- 

'yer welcome!


-- 
Don Salvin, Network Project Engineering Manager
Computing and Information Systems, University of Pittsburgh
600 Epsilon Drive, Pgh, PA 15238
INTERNET: dss@unix.cis.pitt.edu  BITNET: DSS@PITTVMS  TWPnet: 412/624-6400
Xref: sparky comp.dcom.sys.cisco:626 comp.dcom.lans:1713 comp.protocols.ibm:426 comp.protocols.tcp-ip:2469
From: dletcher@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Drew Letcher)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco,comp.dcom.lans,comp.protocols.ibm,comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: IBM 3270/telnet to non-IBM machine
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:36:37 GMT
Followup-To: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
Organization: U of Iowa, Iowa City, IA


Problem:  IBM mainframe telnet uses 3270 protocol encapsulated
in the telnet protocol.  Which is only useful if you telnet to another
IBM mainframe.  We have a full screen application that people can access
through telnet.  But our telnet server does not support 3270/telnet.

Q1: Does anyone know of a way to convert 3270/telnet into telnet using
    another emulation such as VT100?

Q2: Does anyone know of a tn3270 telnet daemon for IBM PC compatibles?
From: timl@maxwell.concordia.ca (Tim Lapin)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
Subject: Appletalk woes (Sigh)
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:53:23 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec, Canada

Hi all,

I posted the below to the appletalk groups, but realized it could be a question
for cisco gurus instead:


We also have a non-trivial appletalk net using Cisco routers.  The setup is as
follows:

   Several Phase II only FastPaths with one phase II zone  (default)
   One Phase I/II transition bridge FastPath
   Several Phase I only FastPaths.
   Phase II default zone name is:  "CompServ Ether 2"
   Phase II net range is:           9000-9000
   DECnet level 1 routing:          enabled on all relevant FastPaths.

Practically all FastPaths are either genuine "5"s or upgraded "4"s.  There
remain but a few non-upgraded "4"s on our net.

Cisco routers are routing phase I and bridging phase II.  The reason is that
not all our Ciscos have been upgraded to route phase II.  Their data are:

  GS S/W on relevant routers:   8.0 (13)   and   8.2 (3)
  System Bootstrap:             4.1 (4)    and   4.3 (2)
  Microcode level:              1.4,  1.5,  1.7,  1.8


Now for the problem:

Although our FastPath is the transition bridge, we cannot see any remote Phase
II services and the remote phase II FastPaths cannot see our Phase II service.
In fact, no phase II net can see another phase II net's services.

The phase I nets are unaffected.  That is, all phase I services are visible
to all phase I nets.

The one phase II service that our transition bridge does see is on our own 
subnet and is translated properly for the phase I community.

All phase II services are either DEC Pathworks version 1.0a or CAP.

What are we doing wrong?


The following things should be noted:

1)     All phase II services are on nets with either a genuine "5" or upgraded
"4".  The ROMS are level 5.1, using KSTAR 9.1.

2)     One phase II FastPath is on the other end of a 56Kb link.  Most of our
mac net is on a fiber hub.


Any help is appreciated.  Please respond by e-mail.


-- 
Tim Lapin
Computing Services     Concordia University     Mtl, Que, Canada    H3G 1R8
timl@maxwell.concordia.ca    Tel:  (514) 848-7639      FAX:  (514) 848-7622
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans,comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.dcom.lans.fddi,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: a563700@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk (Che-hoo Cheng)
Subject: How to Select Optical Fibres?
Organization: Computer Services Centre, C.U.H.K.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 08:28:50 GMT

Hi all,

Could anyone give me some hints of how to select optical fibres?  
Specifically, I would like to know:

1.     Loose Tube vs Slotted Core vs Tight-Bufferred (e.g. OCC's D-
       Series Cables;  B-series is too expensive!!) vs AT&T DSX LIGHTPACK 
       Cables (Loose Tube Cables??)

2.     Non-Metallic vs Metallic (including price comparison)

3.     Rodent Protection:  Corrugated Steel Tape Armor vs Chemical

4.     Water Blocking:  Gel-Filled vs Tight-Bufferred Cables

5.     General Comments of AT&T, MM, OCC, Siecor, Olex & Red-Hawk's Cables

6.     Fusion Splicing vs Mechanical Splicing vs Field-Termination

7.     Connectors for Single-Mode Cables:  FC vs ST-2

FYI, Chinese Univ of Hong Kong has issued an Invitation to Tender for 
installing FDDI-based Campus Backbone and it includes installation of 
optical fibres of about 10km with both single-mode and multi-mode.

Your advice on this issue is very much appreciated.

Che-hoo Cheng
Computer Services Center
The Chinese Univ of Hong Kong
From: michael@hal.com (Michael Coxe)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: Re: Accessing Enet Layer w/ SunOS
Date: 7 Apr 92 01:14:04 GMT
Organization: HaL Computer Systems

In article <1992Apr2.132423.24771@ecmwf.co.uk>, cgd@ecmwf.co.uk (Dick Dixon) writes:
|> > SunOS has an excellent facility called Network Interface Tap (NIT) providing
|> >just what you need. The nit(4P) module gives you link-level access to
|> >the Ethernet.
|> 
|> ...but be aware that Sun are intending to remove this interface with future 
|> releases
|> of SunOS.  If you are writing a major package, best find out what the successor
|> will be...
|>
 
I don't think so. Their etherfind replacement utility "snoop" to be included 
with Solaris 2.0 uses NIT. Where do you get you're information. Document
please.

-- 

Michael Coxe               | HaL Computer Systems
michael@hal.com            | 1315 Dell Avenue, Campbell, CA 95008 USA
Xref: sparky comp.dcom.lans.ethernet:568 comp.sys.sun.misc:1817
From: tanemeth@economics.adelaide.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Source for ANC-10 (was Connecting two machines without an "Ether")
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:38:21 GMT
Followup-To: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Organization: Economics, University of Adelaide

In article <1992Apr8.194402.4256@tridom.com>, mwr@tridom.uucp (Mark Reardon) writes:
> In article <1992Apr05.165348.26168@donau.et.tudelft.nl>, thomas@duteca2.et.tudelft.nl (Thomas Okken) writes:
> |> I want to connect two machines with thick-ethernet ports. Can I save the
..rest deleted

In my Netcor catalog (a little dated) there is an NC-10 which does what you
want.  Maybe the ANC-10 is a later development of that, so why not give
them a try?

Tom Nemeth
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: mreid@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Mike Reid)
Subject: Re: Duplicate ethernet addresses!
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 13:33:33 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.224701.8749@raven.alaska.edu> craig@fred.gi.alaska.edu writes:
>A caution to those poor souls troubleshooting ethernets, we have just
>found a 'gotcha' that I hope nobody else has to find...
>
>I was watching our ethernet with a packet capture utility (EtherPeek) and
>over the course of a couple of weeks noticed that one ethernet address
>(the six byte hardware address [that only DEC has the gumption to mess
>with, but thats another story...]) was 'migrating' between different
>IP addresses.
>
>Well, users being what they are, I figured our grad students were
>'sharing' an X-windows terminal or were swapping out pc interface cards
>for kicks.  Well two days ago I caught two IP addresses using the same
>ethernet address at (more or less) the same time.  I asked our
>UN*X gurus if he knew what was going on...
>
>After a little digging, it seems we have three X-windows terminals from
>Visual Technologies Inc., model Visual-14/ES, that all have identical
>ethernet addresses of 00:00:22:00:13:8f!
>
>Visual is sending new EPROMS...
>
>Has anyone else ever seen this?  After all the time and effort to try
>and keep things unique, I was loath to assume the worst, but no more!
>Or is this a FAQ-of-life, or worse yet, are we totally befuddled?!
>
>
>Craig Helmuth, Network Manager  |  craig@fred.gi.alaska.edu
>         Geophysical Institute  |  fncah@alaska.bitnet
>University of Alaska Fairbanks  |  "Its all FANTASY...until its HISTORY"
> 

We've had a problem with NCSA Telnet (for PC's) and Western Digital
Ethercard Plus Elite cards.  The software changes the ethernet address to
one of a small number of addresses, none of which have anything to do
with Western Digital.  This causes (in one part of our net) 20+ PC's
fighting over three ethernet addresses.  I understand that the latest
version of NCSA telnet is supposed to fix this, but I haven't tested
it yet.

We also have a lab where students insert a diskette and randomly choose
IP addresses. (Needless to say, I don't control this lab.)

Mike Reid
Computing and Communications
Memorial University of Newfoundland
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet