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From: koops@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Luke Koops)
Subject: C2 security specification - where to get a copy?
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:59:16 GMT


Does anyone know where I can get ahold of the C2-level specification?  
An address and/or phone number would be great.  A source on the net would be
more than great.

Thanks.

...Steve van der Burg

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From: dove+@pitt.edu (Daniel L Dove)
Newsgroups: comp.security.misc
Subject: HELP Win 3.0 icon locking
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:04:20 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: dove@unixd1.cis.pitt.edu


	Hello, I'm looking for a method to lock the icons to the window
they are in. I'm writing a prog. for Win 3.0 and I have some iconic Dlg.
boxs that I would like to lock in place.

		Any help would be greatly appriciated


			Thanks in Advance

				Dan Dare

				dove@unix.cis.pitt.edu
				dove@vms.cis.pitt.edu

Newsgroups: comp.security.misc
From: ccastdg@prism.gatech.EDU (Davide Gaetano)
Newsgroups: comp.security.misc
Subject: Re: B1security level
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:26:54 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <1992Oct15.120937.9694@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> joepepin@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (joseph.pepin) writes:

>Artur Romao (artur@morgaine.puug.pt) wrote:
>: Does anyone know if there is any version of UNIX that implements the
>: B1 level.
>: thanks in advance.

>AT&T System V/MLS is B1.

  I belive I saw something from Data General that upgraded there 
  AViiON machines running DG/UX to B2 or B1 (don't remember which)

Davide Gaetano
dg30@prism.gatech.edu
From: rlee@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Rich Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.security.misc
Subject: Public Private Keys
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:48:11 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA



Does anyone know of a C source code for the public/private key.  Thanks
Yeah I could write one...buy why??

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Newsgroups: comp.security.misc
From: cotrozzi@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (Massimo Cotrozzi)
Subject: Re: IBM PC logical drive password
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 09:55:59 GMT

s897336@otto (Soh Lip Meng) writes:


>Does anyone know of any PC security program that assigns password to logical
>drives ? 
>Any help will be highly appreciated ! Thanks !!
DrDos 6.0 provides a password mechanism, but , as it was discussed some weeks ago,
it is  * N O T * sufficient to protect files in the partition.

	Massimo
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Newsgroups: comp.security.misc
From: pasq@cup.hp.com (Mark Di Pasquale)
Subject: Security Classifications
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:35:29 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]


The National Security Agency should be able to help you.  There is
a DOD book called the "Orange Book" which I believe describes how
the government defines C2, B1, ... levels of security.

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Xref: sparky comp.lsi:637 comp.lsi.cad:1026
From: gt3384c@prism.gatech.EDU (AUSTIN,BLANCA)
Newsgroups: comp.lsi,comp.lsi.cad
Subject: Magic: SPICE deck for GaAs circuits using ext2spice
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:08:55 GMT
Followup-To: comp.lsi
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I have been trying to generate the SPICE deck for some GaAs circuits
layed out using Magic. I had previously posted here and had been adviced
to use ext2spice instead of sim2spice. However, I am having problems with
the deck that ext2spice generates. Here are some of my problems:

1. The devices generated are MOSFETs and mot MESFETs.
   What should I do? Just change the device line to correspond to
   the MESFET line?
2. Capacitance values are too large. 
3. Schottky diodes appear as MOSFETs with their drain and source tied together.

If I have to change the generated file so much for it to describe
my circuit, what is the advantage of using ext2spice over generating the
deck manually?

Thanks,
Blanca


-- 
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Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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ARPA: gt3384c@prism.gatech.edu
From: arun@lsil.com (Arun Gunda)
Newsgroups: comp.lsi
Subject: definition of FALSE PATH
Keywords: false path
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:44:20 GMT
Reply-To: arun@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Logic Corporation

Does somebody out there know the complete definition of false path. Also, given a 
small circuit how does one find all the false paths in it..

Thanks in advance
Arun Gunda
agunda@lsil.com
Newsgroups: comp.lsi.cad
From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Re: Why universities shouldn't write IC CAD tools
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: The Bates Motel
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:05:30 GMT


A lot of ideas created in the course of Master's and Ph.D. theses
cannot be developed on a stand-alone basis, and many university VLSI
CAD tools have served as testbeds for these new ideas.  Magic is now
in its 6th version, with numerous changes and new stuff, for example.
I can't think of any other way to demo a layout tool technology other
than doing VLSI layout ... (-;

Octtools, while I've only read its documentation (we haven't installed
it at our site), contains a few extra dozen little tools each time it
comes out ... if you want to give it a spin, that's great; if you want
to add a tool and try it out, you don't have to build a framework from
scratch around it and all the better if there are predecessor and
successor modules available so you don't have to do any extra crap.

Maybe some tools are good enough, and elegantly simple in their
implementation, that there is no need for recoding if a commercial
site wants to use them.  However, these University tools don't come
with a warranty for a good reason ... they are basically testbeds.
But analogous to Unix and other software platforms, some testbeds do
end up in the field.  The only way to get commercial-quality code is
to write a piece of commercial-quality code based on the concepts
pioneered in the university tool, with suitable hooks to suit your
installation's needs, using the latest in software engineering
principles ... heck, even SPICE was redone at AT&T Bell Labs by
Lawrence Nagel when he joined them (it's called ADVICE).

gld
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> gld@cunixB.cc.columbia.EDU		Oct 26/92: Just say "OUI!"
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From: lazzaro@boom.CS.Berkeley.EDU (John Lazzaro)
Newsgroups: comp.lsi.cad
Subject: Re: Why universities shouldn't write IC CAD tools
Date: 13 Oct 1992 20:30:26 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: boom.cs.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Oct13.164209.28454@ccu.umanitoba.ca> meier@ee.umanitoba.ca (Martin Meier) writes:
>
>It sounds like you are stuck holding the bag on ECAD. I assume you are not
>getting paid for your services, and that your doing it out of the kindness
>of you heart. If you got fed up one day, and decided not to give support,
>who would take your place? 
>

In grad school, we were taught during orientation that as
science-types "community service" was an important part of the job,
one that carries throughout your career. Maintaining mature CAD tools
that have wide use in the community is no different than referreeing
papers and grant proposals, and helping to organize conferences.
These are all things that are (mostly) done for free because people
(and their employers) believe in the enterprise of research. So my
answer to your question is, if I get too busy to maintain the tools,
either they will go into bit rot, or someone else in the community who
uses them will take over the job; not so different than what happens
when a busy researcher starts returning papers to the editor
unreviewed ... (or what happens to an commercial IC tool with weak
sales ).

In fact, mostly I'm a curator of fixes and additions people have sent
me, changes they made to solve a problem they had; on average the
changes take a few hours or days at most, time which people are
willing to spend to get the functionality they need. My role is very
analagous to an editor for a journal, who does little writing or
reviewing, but oversees the whole process and tries to ensure the
final package serves the interest of the research community ...
Newsgroups: comp.lsi.cad
From: mazzucch@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (massimo mazzucchi)
Subject: PC GLOBE
Keywords: info
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 09:21:58 GMT


HY

I am Max froma ITALY Milan

I want know if someone know if exist a programm like
PC-GLOBE or PC-USA about a part of town or a quarter
with information about population and othr info.

- if someone know that programm graphic it was used to
  realize PC-GLOBE or PC-USA


  Thanks for your help

  BYE


  My address is mazzucch@ghost.dsi.unimi.it 

Newsgroups: comp.lsi.cad
From: mikelor@mentorg.com (Mike Lorenzetti)
Subject: Joint SIGDA/DATC membership meeting at ICCAD
Organization: Mentor Graphics Corporation
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:01:00 GMT


what: Joint membership meting of the ACM Special
     Interest Group on Design Automation (SIGDA) and
     the IEEE Design Automation Technical Committee (DATC)

when: Sunday, November 8th, 530pm-7:30pm

where: Ballroom A of the Santa Clara Convention Center

why: The meeting is open to members and prospective members.
    Food and beverages will be served.  Your inputs on the
    activities of both these organizations is encouraged.
From: fuchs@crhc.uiuc.edu (W. Kent Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.lsi.cad,comp.lsi
Subject: EDPS meeting at ICCAD-92
Date: 12 Oct 1992 14:14:04 -0500
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: strauss.crhc.uiuc.edu
Summary: meeting of the EDPS subcommittee at ICCAD-92
Keywords: electronic design processes subcommittee meeting ICCAD-92


The Electronic Design Processes Subcommittee (EDPS) of the
IEEE Design Automation Technical Committee (DATC) will meet on Monday,
November 9, 5:30 - 6:30 pm,  at ICCAD-92.   

ICCAD-92 is November 8-12 at the Santa Clara Convention Center, 
Santa Clara, California.  You can obtain ICCAD-92 registration information 
by contacting MP Associates,
Phone:  (303) 530-4562
FAX:    (303) 530-4334
or by reading earlier posts to this newsgroup.

WHAT:  EDPS Meeting
WHERE: ICCAD-92,  CENTRAL ROOM,
       Santa Clara Convention Center and Westin Hotel
WHEN:  Monday, November 9,  5:30 - 6:30 pm
From: dvl@fasic4.fnal.gov (Dee Van Leesten)
Newsgroups: comp.lsi.cad
Subject: Gerber viewer
Keywords: Gerber
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:17:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: fnnews.1bkck8INNst6
Distribution: world
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: fasic4.fnal.gov

I'm looking for a program which reads in gerber data and
creates a graphical window for viewing and/or editing that data. If anyone
can recommend such a viewer for the Sun platform, please post or send
me e-mail directly.
Newsgroups: comp.lsi.cad
From: gnk@belar.ECE.ORST.EDU (Giri Rangan)
Newsgroups: comp.lsi.cad
Subject: Urgently needed : Spice deck for 2 comparators.
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:51:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvtuA2.LyC
Distribution: usa
Organization: none

URGENTLY NEEDED

Can anyone mail me the spice deck sub circuit file for any
of the following standard comparators. The library that I
have out here does not contain these. 

1. LM319
2. LM339 or LM339A.

Please mail it to "gnk@aldur.ece.orst.edu". I need these
rather desperately.

Thanks,
Giri Rangan.
Dept of ECE, Oregon State Univ.
Corvallis, OR 97331.
Newsgroups: comp.lsi.cad,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: jimh@pacdata.com (Jim Harkins)
Subject: Sun graphics advice needed
Organization: Pacific Data Products
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:27:02 GMT

I just found out that one of our managers bought the Viewlogic CAD package
for a Sun Sparc and now I need to build a color system for it.  My questions
are legion (all we've got now are black&white), but I have 2-3 biggies.
As I see it I've got 3 options:

    1) Buy an IPX upgrade from Sun for $5495.  This plugs into an IPC.
    2) Buy a graphics card from someone else for around $800.
    3) Buy a color xtube, probably from NCD.  Price is unknown right now, I'm
       guessing $7,000-$10,000.

Options 1 and 2 require me to get a monitor, I can get a 19 inch Sony for 
$2000 plus shipping.  And now the questions:

    1) Is the IPX upgrade worth the money, or should I just buy a graphics card?
    2) Any recommendations on third party graphics cards?  A pointer to a
       magazine review that would give me an overview of what to look for would
       be great.
    3) If I went the color X-terminal route would I still need a graphics card
       in my Sparc?  Can I just plug an xtube into my ethernet and happily
       run Openwindows 3.0?  I've been looking for an excuse to get an xtube
       for a while now, this could be it.

Thanks.

jim

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greatly outnumbered by voters without brains, yet somehow the
intelligent fail to perceive that not everybody thinks the way they do,
thus they fail to argue persuasively for their points and then are
surprised when the majority makes dumb choices.

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Pacific Data Products               jim@pacdata.com
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Newsgroups: comp.lsi.cad
From: cellis@eng.auburn.edu (Charles Ellis)
Subject: GDSII to CIF conversion
Keywords: gdsii,cad,conversion,magic,calma,cif
Reply-To: cellis@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:46:45 GMT

Does anyone know of a public domain GDSII (stream) to CIF 
conversion program (stand alone) which will work with
angles. I have used magic, but it will not handle angles.
I would appreciate an E-MAIL response at cellis@eng.auburn.edu. 
 
Thanks,
 Charles Ellis
From: bohlkejh@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Newsgroups: comp.lsi.cad
Subject: IGSpice
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:25:43 GMT
Reply-To: bohlkejh@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Distribution: inet
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
NNTP-Posting-Host: b103-1.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

Hi,
   Having problems running IGSpice on a HP 9000-375 (HPUX 8.0).  The program  
cannot access starbase files?  Has anyone had better luck?

Jon
Newsgroups: comp.lsi.cad
From: changl@ecf.toronto.edu (CHANG LI)
Subject: Digitizer in autoCAD
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:25:03 GMT

Hi,

I am going to be a new user of autoCAD.
I intend on using the TABLET MENU with a digitizer and a puck.
I have a few questions maybe you could help me.


1) Does the TABLET MENU come with the autoCAD softwear?
   So if I have a digitizer then I can use the TABLET MENU?  True/False?

2) There is such a thing as a template, is it simply a piece of paper
   that I can color photocopy?

3) I have asked around in the computer stores around Spadina and College.
   The prices are $475 for a large digitizer with puck, no template
		  $450 Summasketch II plus 12x12 digitizer, no template
		       with puck
		  $239 9x6 inch digitizer with template.

   How do these prices sound?


All comments and suggestions are greatly appreciated.
I intend on using autoCad to do mechanical drawings.

Is there a 1-800 number I could call about autoCad?  Customer service?

Thank you.



      Li Chang   Comp Eng 9T4                     ____
  First Class of Computer Engineering            /_|__\--,
     @ the University of Toronto           []Oo. `0-----0'

     changl@ecf.toronto.edu
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      Li Chang   Comp Eng 9T4                     ____
Newsgroups: comp.lsi.cad
From: ge@mcnc.org (George Entenman)
Subject: Looking for a magic tech file for Orbit 1.5u or 1.6u SCMOS
Organization: MCNC Center for Microelectronics, RTP, NC
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:22:16 GMT


We are looking for a Magic technology file for Orbit 1.5u or
1.6u SCMOS.  We prefer Magic 6 format but Magic 4 would be fine.

Any help would be appreciated.

		  George

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Newsgroups: comp.lsi.cad
From: FC138001@ysub.ysu.edu (Phil Munro)
Subject: Re: Why universities SHOULD write IC CAD tools
Organization: Youngstown State University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:01:41 GMT

  A couple of references on the early development of SPICE (at a university)
might relate to this discussion:
 
  "Circuit Simulation -- the Early Years", by R.A. Roher, IEEE Circuits
   and Systems, May 1992, pp 32-37.
 
  "Confessions of a CAD (Computer-Aided Designer), by R.A. Roher, IEEE
   Education Society Newsletter, Spring 1992.
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  FC138001@ysub.ysu.edu  Phil Munro       Youngstown State University
  Electrical Engineering Department           Youngstown  Ohio  44555
Newsgroups: comp.lsi.cad
From: holmer@eecs.nwu.edu (Bruce Holmer)
Subject: Comments and questions about irsim
Originator: holmer@rose.eecs.nwu.edu
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 06:43:11 GMT


We've just started working with irsim (under Magic, version
6.3).  While working through Magic tutorial #11, irsim does
not always behave as expected.

While using the rsim tool, the act of selecting a wire and
clicking the middle mouse button should result in the node's
value being printed.  The main problem is that this
procedure results in error messages for a significant number
of the nodes (including "hold"--which is used to introduce
this procedure in the tutorial).  Here's an example of the
error message:

	@=d147,-27 not recognized in sim file

Other nodes, however, work as expected.  Has anyone else
observed this behavior?  Did we not install the program
correctly?

By the way, the .prm files supplied in the Magic 6.3
distribution all have "resistance" misspelled (causing error
messages when loading the .prm file).  Now, my question is,
should I use "scmos2um.prm" from the distribution or
"scmos100.prm" from Magic note #19?

Thanks,
Bruce Holmer
holmer@eecs.nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.lsi.cad
From: brian@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Brian Antao)
Subject: Re: Why universities shouldn't write IC CAD tools
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 05:03:02 GMT

[Long rethoric on the subject deleted ]

	Well if that is the case than, no software engineering/computer
engineering should be done at a university ;-) .

Universities afford the luxury of experimenting with new methodologies,
concepts and algorithms without having to justify immediate return in
terms of corporate profit margins. The University CAD tools are prototype 
implementations to demonstrate the feasibility of the proposed concept. 
These fundamental developments are then adapted by industry to make a 
commercially viable and robust product. You cannot expect an acedemic researcher
perform the same software development cycle -- such as alpha, beta testing etc..
that's what separates academia from industry. 

This is the case with most university research in the engineering field,
that's why there usually is a technology transfer process, where the
basic research is transfered to industry -- in this case a CAD house
Take the classic case of SPICE -- which was originally Larry Nagel's
Ph.D. thesis. Most of the industry SPICE versions are robust adaptations
of the original, with more bells and whistles added. The reason why
a distribution fee is charged is to cover the nominal cost of the
distribution media -- somebody has to pay for the tape and documentation.

The rest of the discussion in the original posting is rethoric anyway ...

	-- Brian Antao
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From: robert@csustan.csustan.edu (Robert Zeff)
Newsgroups: comp.lsi.cad
Subject: Re: Why universities shouldn't write IC CAD tools
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:53:20 GMT
Organization: CSU Stanislaus


I find that Spice 3e2 is VERY useful.  I think that, given a pc environment,
many students / engineers could find it satisfactory for 99% of their needs.

In fact, I have re-written nutmeg and ported spice 3e2 for Windows NT / 
Win32 with a GUI that works very well.  I intend to release it to the internet
as shareware in just a few days.

-Robert
robert@csustan.csustan.edu

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Newsgroups: comp.lsi.cad
From: jon@alpha.ee.ufl.edu (Jon Mellott)
Subject: Re: Why universities SHOULD write IC CAD tools
Organization: EE Dept at UF
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 13:11:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.012223.20611@newsgate.sps.mot.com>, wald@alfalfa.sps.mot.com (Steve Wald) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct10.182750.574@cube.sublink.org> arrigo@cube.sublink.org writes:
|> >Of course my University would have
|> >never afforded to buy enough Cadence site licenses for a student lab,
|> >and I would have never been exposed to IC design.
|> 
|> If the Cadence/Mentor/... bean counters had any brains they would give the 
|> licenses to student labs for FREE as advertizement/exposure for future 
|> designers. This strategy is used succesfully by not a few hardware
|> vendors. Why not CAD vendors?!?
|> 
|> I would've tried hard to get into a commercial design environment that
|> included CAD tools I was familiar with... if there had been any such thing
|> when I first started engineering (other than SPICE).

The Cadence and Mentor products are available to Universities for a very low 
price -- low enough that it shouldn't be a big concern. This does represent 
a big change though: only a couple of years ago Cadence would only let 
universities have a small subset of their tools at the nominal license fee.

Somehow I suspect that the CAD vendors thought that universities would be 
able to write expensive CAD tools into their research budgets and that 
they would benefit accordingly. Of course, it never happened. 
With one seat of a full suite of IC design tools costing $100K+...

Jon Mellott
High Speed Digital Architecture Laboratory
University of Florida
(jon@alpha.ee.ufl.edu)
From: rd@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Dick Dowell)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:24:13 GMT
Subject: Re: Why universities shouldn't write IC CAD tools
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA