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From: Andrew.Probert@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Andrew Probert)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: Re: Exchange
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 01:26:10 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

Thanks Richard. Have you used SimCity yourself? Have you seen the
message left to me by Emily Combs ( in the TAG echo). gApparentally
there is already such a project going on in Sheridan, Arkansas. I am
going to get in contact with the people out there and see what they are
doing. If you are interested I could give the contact details.

Have you also haeard of two other simulation game packages called
Civilisation and Railroad Tycoon? I reckon that these packages could jbe
used in the classroom so to speak in a similar way to SimCity.
Civilisation could be used to familiarise kids with the way history
works, with how technology has changed over time, and be used as a
springboard to introduce kids to geography and economics.

Anyway, Richard I hope to hear from you again soon.

Bye,

Andrew
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From: John.B..Waters@f721.n278.z1.fidonet.org (John B. Waters)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: Re: CIVIL WAR
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 20:58:18 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:278/721 - Fordham Prep's BBS, Bronx NY

HEY! How are you?  How long have you been studing about the civil war?  Well 
I got to go now the bell just rung.  I don't want to be late for class. 
Please write back.

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From: John.Mclaughlin@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (John Mclaughlin)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: EXCHANGE
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 22:09:23 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Hi.  I teach junior high school social studies in Bathurst, New Brunswick 
(CANADA) and I am interested in setting up an exchange of ideas with students 
in Bathurst, Australia.  If you teach there (or know somebody who does) I'd 
appreciate hearing from you.  Thanks!

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From: Sharon.Napshin@p0.f126.n137.z1.fidonet.org (Sharon Napshin)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: Re: Wanting MAVO contact
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 20:04:49 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:137/126.0 - Global Vision, Sarasota FL

Hi, Maarten...Glad to see your name on the K12 Net.  Have you seen the 
list of bbs that are a part of the net?  You might download the one that 
Neal loaded in November.  If not, let me know and I'll Xerox and pony a 
copy to you.  I'm home now and the list is at school so I'm not sure 
where in the Netherlands you might find a contact. Let me know if you 
want a copy of the list.  Take care!



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From: Iain.Macpherson@f405.n622.z3.fidonet.org (Iain Macpherson)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: GEOGRAPHY GAME
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 06:36:12 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:622/405

MB>We are organizing a geography game that will hopefully involve
MB>six fifth grade classes from around the world.  Briefly, each
MB>class will use clues provided by participating classes to guess
MB>locations.  The game will be run by our Gifted and Talented
MB>Teacher, Julie Dermody. Be on the look-out for further
MB>information from her.

        I am awaiting news. I teach a number of targetted gifted and talented pupils at Booragul PS here in NSW, Australia who would be interested. Please get back to me fast as school starts here in one week (Feb 1).


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From: Andrew.Probert@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Andrew Probert)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: Law Related Education
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 01:26:04 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

Hello Tom. I am a law student at Auckland University in New Zealand.
Could you tell me something about what is taught in the US as part of
LAW RELATED EDUCATION. I would really like to start up an international
discussion concerning the law and related matters.
I also have a degree in economics including economic analysis of history
and of the law. I would be glad to get involved with any projects going
on with kids doing LRE iun the US and elsewhere, if anyone is
interested.

Yours faithfully,

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From: Susan.Baird@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Susan Baird)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: INDIGENOUS PEOPLES
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 20:33:14 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

I've heard from CBC that you have a really good project on the YEAR OF THE 
INDIGENOUS PEOPLES. I have a grade 5 class in Fredericton that should learn 
more about our Native people. Any ideas from you would be really 
useful.Thanks 












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From: Todd.Horne@f118.n244.z1.fidonet.org (Todd Horne)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: Re: Rape After Rape After Rape
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 09:52:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:244/118 - Renzo's Roost, Hamilton ON

    Jack;

JD>> Hopefully, in the 20th century, we can ask that we learn from history
JD>> and
JD>> not repeat it.  As Ghandi pointed out, if we all practiced "an eye
JD>> for an
JD>> eye", we would live in world of blind people.

    Nice point.  If the first sentence applied to Gandhi, I would have to disagree with you, in absolute if not in context.  A great deal can be learned from History, most of all being a recognition of those places and people that foster inhumanity and oppression, and from there it is the duty of the present to right whatever wrongs that exist through means which do not duplicate or perpetuate the "oppressor/oppressed" cycle.  This, Gandhi thought, was through a mix of civil disobedience and political/lega







l action to formally protest the grievance, none of which was done in a forceful or "push" manner, much in agreement with the "Eastern mindset".  Stereotypes - can't avoid them.

        Tell me more about Freire.  All I really know is that he worked a great mystic/spiritual background into his work, and that he was a "mover and shaker", involved in a social movement of his own.  Not much, but a start.

                    -Todd Horne.


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From: mmatusev@radford.vak12ed.edu (Melissa N. Matusevich)
Subject: Re: GEOGRAPHY GAME
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Radford)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 13:18:09 GMT

Sounds like something my fifth graders would love. I can't wait
for details!

Melissa

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From: Jack.Dale@p0.f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Dale)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: Re: The former Yugoslavia
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 09:18:24 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49.0 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta

 -=> Quoting Earl Goldberg to Lloyd Johnston <=-

 EG> * TheTagline * * Dr. Kevorkian will see you now....

Is your tagline any more appropriate?



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From: Neal.Schleifer@p0.f126.n137.z1.fidonet.org (Neal Schleifer)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: Re: The former Yugoslavia
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 20:42:12 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:137/126.0 - Global Vision, Sarasota FL

Re: your comments on the offensive & bigoted tagline.

Bravo! It is heartening to see such an intelligent & measured response 
to a comment that is neither funny nor humane- & should make people of 
dignity & conscience take notice....



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From: Martin.Bos@p0.f126.n137.z1.fidonet.org (Martin Bos)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: Wanting MAVO contact
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 93 08:16:32 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:137/126.0 - Global Vision, Sarasota FL

I am a native of the Netherlands wanting to do some project with a MAVO 
school. I teach Social Studies at a Middle School in Sarasota, Florida 
in the USA. I am open to other types of schools as well. Most of our 
students are average or below average.



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From: Chris.Meek@f236.n107.z1.fidonet.org (Chris Meek)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: knowing our states
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 13:50:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:107/236 - The International L, Babylon NY

Hello 5th grade class!
    My name is Chris Meek, I am 27 and a Political Science student Living
in a small coastal community called Bayville in New York. New York Is a
 wonderful state. There are so few areas of the country where within 30 mins
 you can go from the Busiest city in the world to the most peaceful rolling
 hills of the Catskills.
    Here in Bayville, we are situated on the North Shore of Long Island. Often
 Called the "Gold Coast" because it used to be the summer residence of many
 Famous Americans.  To name a few there is J.P. Getty, of Getty Oil Company,
 The Vanderbuilt family as in Gloria Vanderbuilt and one of our greatest
 Presidents, Theodore Roosevelt, whose great grandaughter lives in the town
 right next to Bayville.
     There are also tons of fun things to do here....there are over 300 miles
of Beaches here on Long Island. We have 2 baseball teams, 2 football teams, 2
basketball teams and 3 hockey teams all within 35 miles of each other.
     One of the more unique things about the Metropolitain area of New York
 City is that when traveling, we don't measure distance in miles, but because
 of of the volume of traffic, we measure it in time. for example NYC is 35
 Miles from my home, But, It takes me 55 minutes to get to Manhattan. Work is
 1/2 hour from my home etc etc...
     If any of you have any questions Please feel free to ask.


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From: albrecht@meena.cc.uregina.ca
Subject: Introductory Unit
Date: 23 JAN 93 16:19:09 GMT
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Sask., Canada

Hello. I am an education student at the University of Regina.  I am working
on an assignment this semester where we are required to create an introductory
unit for a grade 9 or 10 Social Studies class.  I am working on one for grade
ten where the theme of the curriculum is Social Organizations.  I wish to
do my unit on economic organizations within society.  If anyone has any
teaching strategy suggestions or ideas could you please send them to me,
it would be appreciated.  For example, one concept that I would want to
introduce to students is the concept of scarcity, and how that affects the
creation social economic organizations - like welfare.  Thanks for your help.
Emanuel Albrecht
From: Jerry.Bread@f2051.n147.z1.fidonet.org (Jerry Bread)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: NATIVE AMERICAN EDUCATION
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 13:54:08 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:147/2051 - The O.U. BBS, Norman OK

I would like to integrate the area of Native American Education to the network for any person interested for information, curriculum, and student discussion.  Please feel free to contact Dr. Jerry C. Bread on this line if you are interested in the subject or have any question(s) related to the topic Native American Education.


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From: res208@swvgs.vak12ed.edu (RES208)
Subject: knowing our states
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Pulaski)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 15:40:06 GMT

Dear America,
	We are a fifth grade class looking for a friend in each
state who will write and tell us about their area. We can get
general knowledge from encyclopedias, but we want to know what
you think is special about your state. Where are your favorite
in-state places to visit?  What is your town/city/county like?
What about your school? Weather? Parents' jobs? Local problems?
Things you like to do? Help us know about you, and we can tell
you about us too. Write soon and become part of our map of the
U.S.A.
				Many thanks!
				The Company

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From: Jack.Dale@p0.f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Dale)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: Paulo Freire
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 19:59:48 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49.0 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta

 -=> Quoting Todd Horne to Jack Dale <=-

 TH> Tell me more about Freire.  All I really know is that he
 TH> worked a great mystic/spiritual background into his work, and that he
 TH> was a "mover and shaker", involved in a social movement of his own. 
 TH> Not much, but a start. 

Freire is a Brazilian educator/philospher.  He advocates a sort of "liberation
pedagogy" akin to liberation theology.  He believes that the purpose of
education is the transformation of society.  I first encountered the term
"praxis" in his writings.

When I was in grad school, I of my profs insisted that I read Freire.  It was
a tough slug, but as I came to understand him I began to embrace his philosophy.
I don't want to overboard describing the philosophy, but I will suggest that
you try to locate _Pedagogy of the Oppressed_.  He has been very influential,
even here in Canada.  In Toronto, I understand that they use Freirian 
technniques to teach adult immigrant literacy classes.

He came to a conference in Calgary about 10 years ago, and I spend part of an 
afternoon sitting on the floor talking with him.

There are (have been) Canadians who have used similar approaches.  Moses
Coady of the Antigonish movement is an example.

I have seen literature from home economics and classroom displine that are
based on his thinking.  I know that there is quite a good collection in ERIC.

If I might end with one of my favourite lines from Freire "to speak a true 
word to transform the world."

Try him, you'll like him.

Jack

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From: Cindy.Cole@f152.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Cindy Cole)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: NATIVE AMERICAN EDUCATION
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 09:21:40 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/152 - SpaceMet North 2, Greenfield MA

She:Kon Kwe Kwe
   I am a student of Native American Studies and anything youare doing in this area would be of interest to me. 
                              Sken:nen


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From: Jerry.Bread@f2051.n147.z1.fidonet.org (Jerry Bread)
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Subject: NATIVE AMERICAN EDUCATION
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 09:35:49 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:147/2051 - The O.U. BBS, Norman OK

Cindy, the University of Oklahoma is currently examining the concept of Native American studies and attempting to determine rather or not it has a valid place in the domain of academia.  Of course the people who are examining and deciding have little or no background in the specifics of NAS.  The Native American faculty here on campus have submitted numerous offers to research and assist in this development.  However, there has been almost no response to our gestures.  I believe that the concept of NAS wil




l ultimately find a place especially during this time of "cultural diversity" on our campuses and throughout the nation.  I only hope that the decision makers identify and consult with knowledgeable, accurate Indian professionals before they wave their magic wand of blessing.  The issue of political accuracy is crucial when it comes to decisions which impact/effect the education of, and about American Indians.


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From: Michael.Brown@f340.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Michael Brown)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: GEOGRAPHY GAME
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 10:07:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/340 - KC Heffernan Elem, Marcellus NY


Iain,
    In your message you said:

 >        I have replied to Julie direct re this message. Please
 > make sure that she's aware of my interest.

    Thanks for your quick response, Julie will be glad to get things moving.

                    MB



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From: Jack.Dale@p0.f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Dale)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: Re: The former Yugoslavia
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 20:55:45 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49.0 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta

Thanks for sharing my concern.  You were the only one to do so.

I also have some close ties to Yugoslavia.  In 1972, on our first trip
to Europe my wife and I drove down the coast.  We enjoyed the 
hospitality of the Yugoslavs.  We stayed in Dubrovnik for about a week.
It has (had) to be one of the most beautiful sights we have seen.  We
wept was we watched the senseless shelling of this historic sight.
While we were in Yugoslavia, there was a portend of the trouble to come -- 
a small uprising of Croatian nationalists.  The attempt failed.  We 
did not learn of any problems until we read about it in Time.

I am continually struck be the irony that World War was precepitated  by a 
Yugoslav nationalist in an attempt to help unify Yugoslavia.  The deep
irony is that Sarajevo is and was the site of the deaths.  It is hard to
believe that Sarajevo was also the site of the winter Olympics before
Calgary.

On a happier note, I saw your reference to Bodrum.  My wife and I have
sailed along the Turkish coast during three summer trips.  Our last
cruise ended in Bodrum.  In many ways, the architecture reminded me of
Dubrovnik.

A little synchronicity, eh what?

Jack


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From: Jack.Dale@p0.f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Dale)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: Re: Rape After Rape After Rape
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 09:15:38 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49.0 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta

 -=> Quoting Octavian Darie to imran@mbcl.rutgers.edu <=-

 OD> You should know that there is still deep hatred against the
 OD> Muslims  in SE Europe. I don't condone the Serbs' actions, but
 OD> Romanians, bulgarians, serbs, etc have suffered much worse treatment at
 OD> the hands of the Turks for  hundreds of years. you can't just ask them
 OD> to forget and forgive everything just because it's the 20th century.

The whole point is that ALL must forgive and forget.  As long as we explain
away autrocities with such filmsy excuses, we cannot resolve any problems.
Paulo Freire, the Brazilian educator, points out that we must break the 
oppressor/oppressed cycle.  We would not use the same argument to
justify Isreali mistreatment of Germans.

Hopefully, in the 20th century, we can ask that we learn from history and
not repeat it.  As Ghandi pointed out, if we all practiced "an eye for an
eye", we would live in world of blind people.

Jack




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From: Todd.Horne@f118.n244.z1.fidonet.org (Todd Horne)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: Re: Introductory Unit
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 09:59:01 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:244/118 - Renzo's Roost, Hamilton ON

    Emaunel;

al>> introduce to students is the concept of scarcity, and how that
al>> affects the
al>> creation social economic organizations - like welfare.  Thanks for

    In this vein, one way I found that went well is the introduction of both types of thinking, abundance and scarcity, through the example of the American Indians in intiial European contact.  Another concept is using Elliott Jacques' Stratified Systems Theory, and explaining how this is reflected in economy and society (for example, the ways in which corporations can escape many of the barriers set up by governments).

        Anyways, I'm running out of time, so send me a line if you like any of the concepts.

            -Todd Horne.


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From: Julie.Dermody@f340.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Julie Dermody)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: GEOGRAPHY GAME
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 13:17:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/340 - KC Heffernan Elem, Marcellus NY


Dear Iain:
    Thank you for your response.  I am excited about getting the Geography
 Game organized and having the students involved.  My 5th graders (I have 45
 fifth graders in our Enrichment Lab/Gifted Program), are looking forward to
 starting.
    So far your response has been the only one.  My goal is to have 4 other
 fifth grade classes to join us.
    I am also in the process of designing the program...basically, the students
 would have to determine the location of the other students participating.
 Once a correct location was determined, they would receive a clue as to where
 the End Location... All 6 clues would be needed to figure out the End
 Location...from the end location, they need to figure out what ffamouperson
 came from there.
    While I would like to start this as soon as possible, I am expecting the
 actual game to start after our February Vacation.  That would place the start
 of the game to be February 22.
     I'll be in touch.



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From: Octavian.Darie@p0.f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Octavian Darie)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: Re: Rape After Rape After Rape
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 16:19:02 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49.0 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta

        You should know that there is still deep hatred against the Muslims 
in SE Europe. I don't condone the Serbs' actions, but Romanians, bulgarians,
serbs, etc have suffered much worse treatment at the hands of the Turks for 
hundreds of years. you can't just ask them to forget and forgive everything
just because it's the 20th century.

... "Don't mince words, imran@mbcl.rutgers.edu ... what do you *REALLY* th

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From: Iain.Macpherson@f405.n622.z3.fidonet.org (Iain Macpherson)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: GEOGRAPHY GAME
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 06:37:08 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:622/405


MB>We are organizing a geography game that will hopefully involve
MB>six fifth grade classes from around the world.  Briefly, each
MB>class will use clues provided by participating classes to guess
MB>locations.  The game will be run by our Gifted and Talented
MB>Teacher, Julie Dermody. Be on the look-out for further
MB>information from her.

       I have replied to Julie direct re this message. Please make sure that she's aware of my interest.


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