From: REXLEX@linac.fnal.gov
Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian
Subject: Re: ECSTACY
Date: 15 Nov 92 23:27:37 GMT
Organization: FNAL

In article <Nov.8.00.48.43.1992.8517@geneva.rutgers.edu>
twiggs_te@alice.lrc.edu writes:
>Hello out there!
>
>My name is Todd. Please don't close me out before you read this entire thing. 
I know you won't approve of it, but I want you to know about this experience. I
recently tried the drug 'ecstacy' 
>						With love in Christ,
>								Todd T.
>
To Todd and all the Todd's out there, you're not alone.  Many Xians would never
admit to having any relationship to drugs like many never admit to having
lustful thoughts, let alone actions, about women.  I, however will admit to it,
if only to strike a cord of authenicity in knowing empathetically what you're
experiencing.  Let me give you some of the story-
   I honestly believe that I was "saved" in 2nd grade at a 5 day club at my
grandma's.  We moved away from there shortly after, however, my parents were
not the Godly giants my grandparents were (my grandfather initiated CEF in
Illinois) and I drifted from their examples.  As the Scriptures quote, bad
company corrupts good morals.  While in the service and for various reasons, I
started smoking dope.  Then there came smoking hash, and then..... what ever
was available, and being in Hawaii during Nam days, that meant just about
everything.  However, while I was there, I picked up a Bible that had been
tossed into the trash and started reading again.  Soon I was studying it with
great intensity, and yet at the same time continuing my uses of drugs,
experiencing the same kind of mixed pleasure that you have expressed - a sense
of uphoria and a sense of being especially close to God.  My prayer life became
amazingly focused.  Communication seemed to be without eclipse.  Revelations
were stuning and "mind expanding."   Once, in No. Dakota (why not Minot),
sitting in the back seat of an MG while the two up in front had dropped acid, I
began playing devils advocate and got them to start arguing with one another,
all the while they had forgotten I was there.  After a while, they together
remembered I was sitting in the back.  I remember it vividly like it was
yesterday.  They drove out to a wildlife preserve, drug me out of the back and
plopped to tabs of acid down my throat.  

-I wish I could tell this to you in person, 
 cause I'll never get this down on paper to
 do it justice.  

  I had been studying prophecy A LOT, at the time.  My prayer life, well it was
good.  I seemed always to be in conversation with Him in my mind.  So, when the
trip started to take place, I saw that there really was a battle taking place
that was beyond flesh and blood.  I was doing everything posible to contain my
conscious reality.  One side was trying to get me to let go and experience, the
otherside was calling for restraint and caution.  The act was done, now there
was only the effect to take its natural course.  Whether it was merely a
chemical reaction, or if the Lord answered my prayer to be at my side, I can
not defend one way or another.  Yet, many visions I was given, and many things
I saw from a "removed" state.  I saw that the sea before the Throne (Rev 3) was
not water, but a mass of people.  I saw that there were those who came before
the Throne to seek approval to "lay your soul to waste."  
   All of this is a side issue, but at least now you may judge for your self
whether or not I have right to comment on this issue and what credence you wish
to give to my guidence.
   My guidence is this_
God will accept you in the uphoric state, but there will come a time when He
will turn you over to it also.  It is not His *perfect* will for you to be
coming to Him by the aid of any other than His Spirit (Eph 5:15-20).  The
angels of darkness will hide their face from you in the beginning, or at worst
will parade themselves as angels of light.  They will pamper you and give you
what you thirst for, whether it be a sense of wellness or a need for knowledge.
 Be not fooled, they are able to preform.  But *KNOW* this, that is, let be
made a certainty in your mind, they will sooner or a later, seek payment.  The
struggle will be great and it will be alone.  The battle ground in your mind,
and the prize is your soul.  No one other than God can stand beside you on the
battle ground of your mind, and His strength will only be gained by the amount
of trust and obedience you give Him (1 Jn 3:21).  It is much wiser to pay your
debt of obedience now, than to pay it later. (1 Jn 5:2,3)

Well enough.  I'm sure that if you get off alone with the Lord, and allow your
soul to be quiet before Him, He will make real to you His will in this matter. 
For some it takes time, for others they are able to stop a thing in its
infancy, and others still are able to go cold turkey.  I hope you are of the
middle type.  Remember, you are now "in Christ" and that your body is the "holy
of holies."   Do not offer fatted pigs on the altar of your life.

trust and obey, 
for there is no other way,
to be happy in Jesus,
than to trust and obey.

Rex

[Yes, I know I've closed the subject, but this personal account was
too good to pass up.  --clh]