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From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Accents
Date: 29 Dec 92 19:41:54 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

In article <1992Dec29.153032.1394@sq.sq.com> msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) writes:
>
>Accordingly, I was even more delighted when they switched to English
>after a few minutes.  I took it that the moviemakers were saying:
>"We've reminded you that all this dialogue is really in Russian.  But
>to help bring you closer into the scene, we will now magically teach
>you that language, and so you won't notice any difference from your own
>language any more."  (Or if you prefer: "Here is your babel fish.")
>
>I've seen this technique used in exactly one other movie: "Judgement
>at Nuremberg" (1963), where the foreign language was German.  I thought
>it worked very well in both films.

	Something similar, if not identical, was used in Mel Brooks' remake of
"To Be Or Not To Be".  At the beginning of the movie, all of the dialogue is
in Polish, I believe with subtitles.  After a couple of minutes, however, there
is an announcement over the theatre's PA system (the theatre in the movie, not
the theatre the movie is playing in) announcing that, to prevent confusion the
remainder of the film will be in English.  As the announcement is made, all the
characters stop talking and look around.  Afterward, they resume speaking - in
English.

	Amusing, but I still prefer the Benny/Bancroft version.


>Mark Brader, SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, utzoo!sq!msb, msb@sq.com
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From: dtussey@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Daniel W Tussey)
Subject: re. Citizen Kane Question
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 14:46:03 GMT

The fact that Rosebud was the name of Kane's sled as a boy is a fundamental 
part of the movie, as I see it.  The entire movie is about a man who is 
searching for happiness.  The sled symbolizes the happiness and comfort he felt
as a boy, and that was taken away from him.  A big deal is made about the 
Rosebud reference because it is the symbol for everyman's search for happiness.
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Emma Thompson a shoe-in for Best Actress??
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 17:45:11 GMT

In article <1h0oi5INNpda@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> rod@cats.ucsc.edu (Rodrick Su) writes:
>
>	Clint East was 
>	LA's choice for best actor, and I believe Tim Robbins was NY's.  

I forgot this one, first time, also.  It was actually Denzel Washington,
for "Malcolm X".  Robbins was one of the runners up.

By the way, Spike Lee is making a play for the Foolish Desperation award
for this year.  He's complaining that multiplexes are selling tickets to
"Malcolm X," but crediting the sales to other films, such as "Aladdin"
and "Home Alone 2".  Warner Brothers has proof that this has happened.
What they and Lee don't like to mention, however, is that it happens mostly
because of incompetent employees who are hired for the holiday rush and
who punch up the wrong tickets.  When a reporter pointed out to Lee that,
all things being equal, "Malcolm X" has probably gotten its share of
sales for people who were actually going to see "Aladdin" or "Home Alone 2",
the best he could come up with is, "well, my movie needs the sales figures
more."  I suspect that a complete audit of all tickets sold would not 
significantly move "Malcolm X's" revenues at all.  

To bolster his claim for this award, Lee's talking about how Black History 
Week, which is in February, will lead to an upsurge in ticket sales for 
"Malcolm X".  Unless Warner's does a special re-release just for that
purpose, chances are this film won't be in any significant number of
theaters in February, given the way its admissions continue to slide.


-- 
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

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From: anton@cbnewse.cb.att.com (anton.j.panagos)
Subject: Re: Kate Capshaw
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 08:46:49 GMT
Summary: other movies

In article <BzzC8p.24y@quadsys.com>, roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer) writes:
> lape@cs.utk.edu (Bryon S. Lape) writes:
> : 	What movies has Kate Capshaw played in??  I know she is in "Temple
> : of Doom," but what else?
> : 
> 
> Black Rain  - Ridley Scott
> 
> If you havn't seen that one - you must. 
> -- 
> 
Two other movies she has starred in:
  "Dreamscape" - a fairly good S-F film about people who can enter their own dreams
                   also starred Dennis Quaid and Eddie Albert as the President!

  The other film I have not seen , only heard about :') , it's called "Windy City".
  It's about a love relationship set in guess where, Chicago. Starred Tim Matheson,
  of Disney fame(?).

Hope that helps,

Anton J. Panagos
cbnewse!anton
AT&T Bell Labs
Naperville, Il.

"I don't drink.....wine"  - Gary Oldman in "Bram Stoker's Dracula"
                           & Bela Lugosi in "Dracula"
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From: feathers@serss0 (Michael Feathers)
Subject: Re: Sick and tired of cries of sexism (was Re: 9 1/2 Weeks)
Organization: Florida International University, Miami
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 20:55:32 GMT

In article <ksXHwB8w165w@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca> panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden) writes:
>bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:
>
>> No offense to gilbert, or even to tara lou, but I'm real tired
>> of hearing this crap about sexist ads when in fact the 
>> objectification of men is just as prevalent as the objectification 
>> of women.
>
>That isn't the point, not that it isn't a good point to make.
>
>The point being made is that the advertisers expect their viewers to be 
>men, and they speak to men as consumers, and ignore women as audience.
>
>Namaste,
>Elizabeth
>
>

Right.  I'm on vacation right now and I've seen more advertising targeted
at women during the day today then I've ever seen in my life.

Perhaps for beer ads, men are targeted more but I think that advertisers are
too greedy to exclude an audience simply to be sexist.  They do quite a bit
of research to find a well-defined consumer group and then they target them.
Funny enough, I think I remember hearing about a beer that was test marketed
at women, but some people were outraged and the project fell flat.
(no pun intended).  

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From: sperbr@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Ron E Sperber)
Subject: Penelope Ann Miller
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:34:28 GMT

I was just watching _Other_People's_Money_ last night and was really
impressed with Penelope Ann Miller (the actress who plays Kate Sullivan)
I was wondering if anyone knows what other movies she has been in.
thanks,
	-Ron

-- 
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	"Performers and Portrayers/Each anothers audience        "
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From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Hoffa?
Date: 31 Dec 92 15:35:21 GMT
Organization: HMS

In article <1992Dec30.230056.1@acad3.alaska.edu> fncll@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
>Despite the intense media barrage and endless previes, I am looking forward to
>seeing Hoffa but have heard bad things about it already.//// has anyone seen
>it-- would I be wasting my money?
>
>I am a real fan of Nocholson btw...
>

Well,Nocholson has finally turned in a Nicholson perfomance in this one.
It's been awhile. If you don't count his Joker in Batman,he has been a
Nocholson since...oh,The Shining.(No flames from the fans of Terms Of
Enearment and Two Jakes,please :-).

No,you won't be wasting your money. Nicholson's Hoffa compensates for
all the flaws with the script this movie has. I do agree with Danny
DeVitto that it's really a Hollywood version with heavy emphasis on
entertainment and it's not a Shakespeare production filled with precise
facts and details.

-Mark
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From: philip@labtam.labtam.oz.au (Philip Stephens)
Subject: Re: Edward Scissorhands: a few questions *SPOILER ALERT*
Organization: Labtam Australia Pty. Ltd., Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 01:20:31 GMT

Harv R Laser writes:

>Eddie was a "Frankenstein's monster" boy created by the V.Price
>"mad doctor" character. He installed scissors as hands because
>he hadn't finished the hands yet.

  Just a further elaboration: the "mad doctor" character was in fact an
inventor; there was a wonderful scene where his invention of a cookie maker
was shown, and Edward happened to be one of the mechanical robots on another
assembly line chopping up vegetables with scissor hands.  The inventor was
lonely, and so he decided to turn the robot into his very own "son" (he
first holds up a heart to the robot's chest, then later you see a large
book full of diagrams showing how the inventor turned the robot into Edward
Scissorhands).

>The "black thing" is a full leather'n'buckles body suit which 
>Eddie never removes (god knows what he smelled like). We are not
>told what's under the suit, if not an otherwise normal body.

  It's very likely that he was still made of metal underneath the suit, but
a closer examination of the book as the wind flips over it's pages might
reveal the truth about Edward.  (Hey, a good reason for me to watch the film
again! :-)

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From: edgar@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gerald Edgar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Lowe (was: The Culkinator!
Date: 28 Dec 1992 11:19:48 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University, Dept. of Math.
NNTP-Posting-Host: function.mps.ohio-state.edu


In article <1hj101INNemb@agate.berkeley.edu> you write:
>
>
>Well, the horror isn't over yet folks!!! Culkin's younger brother is going
>to star in a film with Van Damme, due for release soon. Yes, folks!!!
>It is "The Invasion of the Culkins" time. How many siblings does Mac
>have anyway???

Don't dismiss him before you see him.  Chad Lowe (unlike his older brother)
can actually make facial expressions!
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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: HOFFA
Date: 29 Dec 92 02:18:22 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Dec28.175749.17440@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, 
leeper@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (mark.r.leeper) writes:
 
>                                    HOFFA
>                       A film review by Mark R. Leeper

> But what is missing and what is missed is a human behind the pubic face 
> of Hoffa.  What this film says about Hoffa, the man, is that he cusses and 
> drinks coffee.  Just about everything else about him in this film you could 
> find in a good encyclopedia.

I was captivated and entertained by _Hoffa_.  I understand Mark's criticism,
but I agree with a Philadelphia critic that said the reason the personal
info about Jimmy Hoffa is skipped is because DeVito wanted to show who he was.
And in this view that's all Jimmy Hoffa was, labor.  It defined him, motivated
him, and made up his person.

This movie was an epic presentation of DeVito's and Mamet's view of Hoffa,
and in that manner, succeeds brilliantly.

Greg Bole                         "I have crossed oceans of time to find you."
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu         Gary Oldman in _Bram Stoker's Dracula_
From: jdooley@maemaster.eng.uci.edu (John R. Dooley)
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Have Golden Globe Nominations
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 31 Dec 92 17:12:50 GMT

Addendum:

>Original Song
>*************
>"Beautiful Maria of My Soul" - The Mambo Kings
>"Friend Like Me" - Aladdin
>"This Used to Be My Playground" - A League of Their Own
>"A Whole New World" - Aladdin
>
"PRINCE ALI" - Aladdin

John D.


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From: stephen@cs.uow.edu.au (Stephen Lance Rogan)
Subject: Re: Has anyone seen this film?
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 02:29:41 GMT

adobrien@unix1.tcd.ie (Austin O'Brien) writes:

>In <1992Dec17.075854.2543@inland.com> deck@inland.com writes:


>>	Has anyone seen a new film starring Anthony Hopkins entitled,"The
>>Efficiency Expert"?  Siskel and Ebert raved about it and claimed it was a
>>'90's version of the popular British comedies of the '50's (MAke Mine Mink,
>>I'm All Right, Jack, etc). It involved Hopkins as the title character who comes
>>to "straighten out" an Austrailian toy factory.  This film hasn't shown up in
>>the Chicago area as yet and I was curious about it.
>>		Jim Deck
>>==============================================================================
>>DECK@INLAND.COM
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>I believe the film is entitled 'Spotswood'.

>(But may be I'm thinking of a different Hopkins picture)

>Austin.

No, it was called Spotswood for its Australian release. It may have been
retitled for overseas release.
Ive seen it, and I enjoyed it. I think it was by Nadia Tass and David Parker,
the same team responsible for films like 'Malcolm' and 'Rikki and Pete'.
I wouldn't rave about it, but I found it a nice, harmless film. Im not sure
how it would be viewed outside Australia though.

Stephen.
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From: erich@microsoft.com (Eric Hanchrow)
Subject: Re: annoying spelling in posts (was: annoying nuances in films)
Date: 22 Dec 92 23:38:52 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

When you read a post's headers, look for the credit of "From." That's 
the person responsible for the post.  It is truly astounding how much 
bad spelling even a casual reader of net news can find in almost every 
post we read.  I really have to wonder why, for example, in a critically
acclaimed and multi-mega-buck post like Harv R. Laser's "annoying nuances in 
films" that with all the people in front of whose eyes the verbiage
will pass after it gets sent to the net, how there could be gaffes like 
"site" instead of "cite" and "laffing" instead of "laughing".
It's so terribly obvious and at least one r.a.m. reader mentioned it.
That's just to cite one horrible example of bad spelling in an
otherwise excellent post made by a popular r.a.m. reader with a good
recent reputation. I can't EVER read "annoying nuances in films" without
laughing when that paragraph comes up, and that takes all the magic
out of it for me. 

Bad spelling is not the same thing as bad grammar or bad logic or 
a poorly thought out argument.  Just as there's bad spelling, there's
bad writing, and bad everything else you can name.  But I'm really 
curious how Laser's "site" and "laffing" could have gotten past 
Laser, his assistants and everyone else involved.
They really tried so hard to put the argument about continuity across,
and the post has a beautiful look to it, but those two stupid mistakes
really sour it for me.  Perhaps 100 years from now, news 
historians will remember these niggling little flubs in otherwise
good posts. Or not. 

Anyone recall any bad spelling mistakes in "Use of `goto' statement
considered harmful"? :-)

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From: twain@milton.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: TOP TEN MOVIES, as of 23 December 1993
Date: 3 Jan 1993 23:23:18 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: milton.u.washington.edu
Summary: Malcolm X

In article <mattm-301292191224@mcmelmon.apple.com> mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:
>
>Malcom X
[is]
>twenty million in the hole.  And while
>Dracula is a story that will sell overseas, do Europeans and
>Japanese really care to sit for 3 and a half hours on the life of
>a radical American black activist?  I doubt it.

Malcolm X is about many things, but one of those things is a story 
about a man's spiritual journey, and how, through the strength of 
his convictions and his growth as a moral agent, he actually manages 
to have an effect on his society. 

Seems a story with universal appeal to me. 

Besides, it was a gorgeous film, full of energy and character. 

Barbara 

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From: mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes)
Subject: Re: Critics Awards (so far)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:51:32 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.164740.2851@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mgrimes@magnus.acs
.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes) writes:
>Here is a list of Critics Awards (so far) for films of 1992:
>
>LA Film Critics:
>
>Best Picture: The Unforgiven
>Best Director: CLint Eastwood  The Unforgiven
>Best Actor:  Clint Eastwood    The Unforgiven
>Best Actress:  Emma Thompson   Howards End
>Best Supp Actor:  Gene Hackman  The Unforgiven
>Best Supp Actress : Judy Davis   Husbands and Wives
>
>New York Film Critics Circle:
>
>Best Picture: The Player
>Best Director:  Robert Altman   The Player
>Best Actor:  Denzel Washington   Malcolm X
>Best Actress: Emma Thompson   Howards End
>Best Supp. Actor:  Gene Hackman   The Unforgiven
>Best Supp. Actress: Miranda Richardson   The Crying Game, Damage, Enchanted
>April  ( recogniton of her work in all 3 films)
>
>National Board of Review:
>
>Best Picture: Howards End
>Best Director: James Ivory   Howards End
>Best Actor: Jack Lemmon   Glengarry Glen Ross
>Best Actress:  Emma Thompson   Howards End
>Best Supp Actor:  Jack Nicholson   Howards End   !!I meant A FEw Good Men!
>Best Supp Actress:  Judy Davis    Husbands and Wives
From: jhumkey@cup.portal.com (John K Humkey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Heavy Metal like movie
Date: Sat,  2 Jan 93 11:30:34 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)


   I saw a video on MTV recently "Girlfriend" by Matthew Sweat.
   Th music was ok, but the Heavy Metal like scenes in the video
   were very nice.  Were they just part of the video, or part of some
   real movie?

   Thanks

   jhumkey@cup.portal.com
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From: mork@shell.portal.com (James Paul Mork)
Subject: Re: Siskel & Eberts Top 10 of 1992
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 00:06:36 GMT


   My biggest disappointments 1992:
      1.  One False Move
      2.  Batman Returns
      3.  Boo merang 
      4.  The Player
 
   My favorites:
      1.  Prelude to a Kiss
      2.  Howard's End
      3.  Housesitter
      4.  Fried Green Tomatoes

    Minor Disappointment:
      1.  Patriot Games

    Biggest Surprise:
      1.  Career Opportunities... I expected very little from this show
          It doesn't intend to be any more than a John Hughes movie...
          It is probably below par for Hughes, but...
          I thoroughly enjoyed Frank Whaley's performance (also in minor
          roles in Born on the 4th of July, Field of Dreams, and The
          Freshman)...  Anybody see this ?  Any opinions?  I hope to 
          see this guy in another lead role.

    I watched between 30 and 50 movies last year... still want to see
    Unforgiven, River Runs Through It, Glengarry..., Alladin, and many
    others... 
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From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: THX - Certified Theatre Listing
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 00:47:57 GMT


>GCC General Cinema Bridgewater      |   1   |    #2    | Bridgewater        |NJ
>GCC Essex Green Cinema              |   1   |    #1    | West Orange        |NJ

Sigh.  These are the only two I could possibly get to.

>United Artists Theatre              |   4   | #2,6,7,8 | Dallas             |TX

I used to go there all the time.  Even the other theaters were of high quality,
and the reel changes were very smooth.

I just visited a UA 8-plex in Princeton, NJ, and was very disappointed.  The
theater was very small, which wasn't a problem of itself, but they had the
screen far too elevated, giving the seats that are a reasonable distance from
the screen a bad angle.  Worst of all there were several big black stains on
the screen.
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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Sick and tired of cries of sexism (was Re: 9 1/2 Weeks)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 00:30:44 GMT

In article <BzzM4L.14K@fiu.edu> feathers@serss0 (Michael Feathers) writes:
>In article <ksXHwB8w165w@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca> panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden) writes:
>>bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:
>>
>>> No offense to gilbert, or even to tara lou, but I'm real tired
>>> of hearing this crap about sexist ads when in fact the 
>>> objectification of men is just as prevalent as the objectification 
>>> of women.
>>
>>That isn't the point, not that it isn't a good point to make.
>>
>>The point being made is that the advertisers expect their viewers to be 
>>men, and they speak to men as consumers, and ignore women as audience.
>Right.  I'm on vacation right now and I've seen more advertising targeted
>at women during the day today then I've ever seen in my life.
>
>Perhaps for beer ads, men are targeted more but I think that advertisers are
>too greedy to exclude an audience simply to be sexist.  They do quite a bit
>of research to find a well-defined consumer group and then they target them.
>Funny enough, I think I remember hearing about a beer that was test marketed
>at women, but some people were outraged and the project fell flat.
>(no pun intended).  
>
Maybe it's my imagination, but I seem to see hard liquor and wine ads
targetted to women and couples.  Or at least more than beer is.

I also notice that luxury and performance cars are targetted at men,
while "cute" and small "sporty" cars seem to be female-targetted.
No surprise, I guess, but it is another example of targetting.

GMS
Organization: Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 12:33:51 -0500 
From: "Kenneth E. Mohnkern" <km2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Rental Costs (was Re: Millers Crossing)


Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.movies: 18-Dec-92 re: Millers Crossing by
barrus@cod.nosc.mil 
> In article <1992Dec18.060556.132418@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>  writes:
> >If you have two dollars, rent it.  Not just a gangster movie.
>  
> Where in the world are you renting for two dollars!!!  Certainly not 
> out here in California.

At the place we rent from (Heads Together) in Pittsburgh, it's $2.00 on
all but the new releases (2.25), and as you rent more, your rate drops.
We're down to $1.75 now, rapidly closing on 1.50!

     ken


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               # the graphics deli # the robotics institute #
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