HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: smart expire
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 15:09:24 GMT
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.
X-Newsreader: rusnews v0.98

jhm@hourglas.uucp (Jonathan Hulley-Miller) writes:
> Does anyone have a smart expire program that could be used on news.answers to
> only keep one copy of a FAQ ? Thanks.

The registered version of my expire program does it.  I just put

   news.answers /mexp=96,h+

in the USENET file and forget about it.

The shareware version is EXPIRE10.ZIP, available in the usual places.  It
doesn't do the necessary header-parsing for the above feature, but is a
fully-functional news-expiring program.


mathew
From: tom@salzo.Cary.NC.US (Tom Salzmann)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: How does WAFFLE detect/call Desqview
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 00:34:36 EST
Organization: SalzoBoard BBS

Waffle is supposedly desqview aware.  However, it doesn't seem to be using
the right call to determine if DV is loaded.  Could someone post the code
used by Waffle to detect DV and then the code to give up the time slice.
I'd like to see the same code fragments for Windows.  I'm trying to write
a little TSR that pretends to be DV and then does the OS/2 call to give up
the time slice.  Thanks.

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From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: The woes of ^Z
Date: 12 Jan 93 01:10:54 GMT
Reply-To: Leonard.Erickson@f51.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.

djk@boombox.apana.org.au (David Keegel) writes:

>Strangely enough, on Unix (where C was developed), this text conversion
>is a no-op; like converting to network byte order on a Sun.

>So the question is whether the file in question is a text file or a
>binary file.  If it is a text file, it should obey local conventions.
>In the case of MS-DOS, it should have \015\012 (\r\n) separated lines,
>and a \032 (^Z) character denoting EOF, which is of course stripped.

>I think a news item is (should be) a text file.

>Perhaps we should be complaining about Waffle not translating the ^Z
>into something innoculous when it *writes* the file (when \n -> \r\n
>is done) rather than when it *reads* the file.

>But then tell me, what is the MS-DOS convention for quoting a ^Z?
>Answer: none.  If there was one, the compiler writers could implement
>it as an extra translation for text files (eg: when writing text
>^Z --> ???; like \n --> \r\n).  Then the applications wouldn't need
>to worry about this rubbish.

Or just pick up a copy of "Strip", and have it *remove* the ^Z characters
from the files. 

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From: jerryg@jaiser.rain.com (Jerry Gaiser)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Offline Readers
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 23:11:07 PST
Organization: Jerry's Attic, Gaston OR

david@cssnet.UUCP (J. David Schronce) writes:

> That's why i offer my users a  "pre-configured" mini-version of Waffle 
> for their personal use.  They fill out a form asking such pertinent 
> things as modem port and speed, newsgroups to include, etc... then I 
> custom configure a setup for them, ZIP it and send them a note to 
> download it on their next connect.  POLL.BAT, LOGIN.BAT, SENDFILE.BAT & 
> GETFILE.BAT are all they need to know as they handle all the transactions 
> and maintenance.
> 

Now this is a great idea.... Why didn't I think of it????

Thanks. I'm going to set up the same idea here.


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From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: uucico problems
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:04:52 GMT
Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada
X-Newsreader: rusnews v0.99

Jonathan Herr <herrj@valnet.vincennes.in.us.vincennes.in.us> writes:
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[ Jonathan - something's messed up here - and my mail to
valnet.vincennes.in.us bounced. ]


> patrick@actrix.gen.nz (Pat Cain) writes:
> 
>> For the last week or so I've noticed that my copy of UUCICO is just
>> freezing

I'm using bnu and 1.64's uucico - and I've been getting random hangs
as well - not just at the end of a session - sometimes between ATX4&D2
and the OK, sometimes after dialing a (fortunately, local) connection.
yesterday it held my news/mail up for about 12 hours (it hung almost as
soon as I left)

other people were experiencing this, too, before - did everyone's problems
go away when they went to 1.65?
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From: dalew@twiki.PDX.COM (Dale Weber)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Strange Bug in Login Sequence, v 1.65
Date: 8 Jan 93 10:35:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: twiki.eL12wB1w165w
Organization: Wafflemania Unlimited - Portland, OR USA

rperry@west.darkside.com (rperry) writes:

  [stuff about Waffle not working deleted]

> this were unsuccessful.  Finally, I had to retrieve my 1.64 password
> file (off an erased disk, no less) and convert _it_ to 1.65.

  This is exactly what you should have done in the first place and it is
in the upgrade documentation for Waffle.

> Is this a bug or what?  I'm surprised nobody noticed this yet, or
> am I just the victim of random chance?  Any suggestions would be
> greatly appreciated.

  It isn't a bug nor is it even an undocumented feature.  ;-) ;-)

  You didn't read the upgrade instructions carefully enough.  There is a
utility that will convert your v1.64 password file to the newer v1.65
format.  It's called CONVPW.EXE and works great when the exact instructions
are followed.  If memory serves me correctly, you also have to run SYSMAN
to create the proper password file indexes as well as MAKEBOX to convert
the 1.64 mail format to the newer mailbox format.

  Don't let the 1.65 version number fool you into thinking that this was
just a small upgrade - which it wasn't.  It was a ver *major* upgrade to
Waffle, and Tom just adds 1 to the preceeding version number rather than
mess with major and minor versions as others do.

  Back critical files up nightly - I copy mine to a directory on a different
partition for each of the BBS related apps I run here.

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: That nifty LIST command in the JOIN section...
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:11:42 GMT

In article <DNgaXB2w165w@ddt-archives.athens.oh.us> dwrage@ddt-archives.athens.oh.us (David William Wrage) writes:
|Is there any way to make it run right after the login screen for every user?

Sure.  Put JOIN LIST into every user's WAFFLE file.  Create a newuser action
in your _system extern that copies a default WAFFLE file into new users'
directories.

  Bill
From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Offline Readers
Date: 10 Jan 93 02:56:54 GMT
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

In article <mVB6wB1w164w@nzkites.UUCP> foster@nzkites.UUCP (Foster Schucker) writes:
|Maybe one 
|of the native english writers out there could write the ultimate Waffle
|document: "Everything you MUST know about Waffle for those people who
|refuse to read the documents." 

Unfortunately, that document would be as big as all the other documents
combined; there really isn't a whole lot of stuff in the Waffle docs that
is not useful to know.

  Bill
From: syy@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com (Sang Y. Yum)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Waffle BBS list
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:35:17 GMT
Reply-To: syy@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com
Distribution: world
Organization: Teradata/NCR


I accidentally deleted Waffle BBS list that I got from this newsgroup.

Could someone who has it send me a copy?  Thanks!

Sang


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Xref: sparky comp.bbs.waffle:5843 comp.mail.misc:4236
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Work-around for 255 line editor limit under 1.65/Unix?
From: system@netlink.cts.com (System Administrator)
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 19:33:59 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

Hi all,
        I hope this isn't a FAQ, but here goes:

I'd really like for our users to be able to make posts with
more than 253 lines, without having to resort to giving them
access to vi (or somesuch).  Anyone have any easy tweeks to
the code to fix this, without hosing something else?

Thanks in advance,

Scott


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From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: announce: na-proc v0.6 - error fix only
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 18:43:48 MST
Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada
X-Newsreader: rusnews v0.99

mlewis%wplace@cssnet.UUCP writes:

>> now in pub/incoming, soon in pub/waffle/news, naproc06.zip is the successor
>
> what is it? your message didn't say anything about what it is or what it 
> does...

sorry 'bout that.  it's a news.answers auto-archiver

and procc processes control messages, and rusnews reads/posts news.
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From: jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Chrome
Date: 4 Jan 93 07:12:17 GMT
Organization: The little node that could...

ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:

> Traditionally, recent releases of Waffle come out on Hallowe'en.
...Or a reasonable facsimilie in August.... ;-)

...From a tiny little node called Eternal!
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From: mlewis@wplace (Mark Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: announce: na-proc v0.6 - error fix only
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:10:40 GMT
Reply-To: mlewis%wplace@cssnet.UUCP
Organization: The Waffle House, Waldo's Place USA


russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) writes:
> now in pub/incoming, soon in pub/waffle/news, naproc06.zip is the successor
> to naproc05.zip - this is only a fix of a long-standing error with the
> "s in the /dir= lines which was finally fixed (thanks to Otto's insistence)

what is it? your message didn't say anything about what it is or what it 
does...

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: Old XT + Waffle + Fossil + V.32bis = ?
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:20:47 GMT

jeff@amikoj.rn.com (Jeff Kunce) writes:

>The question: my throughput is peaking at ~1100cps (usually 900-1000). My
>feed says I should be getting around 1800 cps. What's holding me up?
>Is it my slow machine? A bad line? Are there magic settings? Should I
>just be happy with 1k cps? All ideas appreciated...

Well, you can turn off compression and see if that helps, but 1800cps
on your setup might not be a reality.  Personally, I think your figures
are reasonable.  I have a 386/25 that's tuned to a gnat's @ and I get
900-1100 with my feed consistently (Telebit-to-Telebit).  With another
site, I get a little over 1900 cps.  To a v.32bis site at 14.4, I'm
seeing 900-1100, as well (he has a similar setup as mine).

Ask your feed to provide you with some names and phone numbers of the
folks getting 1800cps consistently, and ask them how they're doing it.

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: scott@ryptyde.cts.com (Scott McClure)
Subject: Re: Work-around for 255 line editor limit under 1.65/Unix?
Organization: Ryptyde TimeSharing, San Diego, CA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:53:49 GMT

djk@boombox.apana.org.au (David Keegel) writes:

>In <c4g2wB3w165w@netlink.cts.com> system@netlink.cts.com (System Administrator) writes:
>>        I hope this isn't a FAQ

>Probably.  It is answered in waffle\docs\static.doc.  Keyword: buflines.

You (and several others) were correct.  It is there.  Funny, I recall 
being told (with 1.64) that this didn't actually *change* the editor's
limit.  

Thanks to all you made me look at the docs again.  It's amazing what
you can read right past sometimes....  8-)

Scott

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From: revc@Garg.Campbell.CA.US (Bob Van Cleef)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Helldiver - hangs BBS
Keywords: helldiver windows hangs waffle
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 20:44:46 -0800
Organization: The Land of Garg

In <JJX5wB5w165w@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US> steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB) writes:
>revc@Garg.Campbell.CA.US (Bob Van Cleef) writes:

[stuff deleted]
>> While scanning through newsgroups, Helldiver hangs windows! It appears
>> to take exclusive use of the system during the scan, causing the BBS
>> to die. This obviously is not acceptable.
[stuff deleted]

>Be sure your Waffle window time slice is substantially more than HD's.
>I have mine set at 500fg/500bg.  Windows desktop apps are set at 50/50.
>Slows things down considerably when working, but that's the price of
>Windows.

My waffle was set at 300/300 - which should be a big difference from 50/50

>> During that time, the modem dropped the dialout. The phone rang three
>> times, was answered by the modem, and the connection was dropped. 
[stuff deleted]
>During this time, Windows does not refresh the screen, so it is really
>difficult to tell what is happening during connects.

It was easy to see that everything, other than helldiver, was hung for
fourteen minutes. That cannot be a time slice issue...

>Also, be sure your waffle window is set to work as a bg task.  Check your
>settings. (Click on the left window-bar square.)

It has been running in background for seven months... <g>
[stuff deleted]
>HD does not handle large groups gracefully.

That is an understatement.

Further information:

Once I had updated my newsrc file, things began to perform acceptably.
It appears the problem only manifests itself when you are running 
the first time. So it should only be a problem for new users.

Bob

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: ISOPATCH V1.03 with MIME-support available now
Keywords: MIME ISO8859-1 DOS WAFFLE
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:13:09 GMT

kosta@blues.kk.sub.org (Kosta Kostis) writes:

>Version 1.03 of the ISOPATCH for DOS Waffle is available via anonymous
>ftp from:

>ftp.th-darmstadt.de:pub/machines/ms-dos/network/waffle/isopatch.zip
>                                                       isosrc.zip

Actually, it's in pub/machines/ms-dos/networking/waffle.

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From: system@coldbox.cojones.com (Bryan Lockwood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Mail (or Helldiver) BUG
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 21:01:41 AST
Organization: The Generation Gap

Okay, I have Waffle 1.65 and HellDiver 1.07. I don't use HellDiver EVERY time
I read news and mail; only about half the time. Why? I dunno, maybe I 
just like the contrariness of Waffle. Or perhaps it's because I find it 
easier to get to some of my DOS utilities from there.

Anyhow, today I noticed that sometimes a long mail message will also 
include the text of the next mail message, appended at the end after 
three smileyface characters. The next message (same text as that 
appended to previous one) comes out looking normal.

I have a suspiscion that HellDiver is responsible for this: yesterday I
used HellDiver to delete about half of the messages pending in my
mailbox. And I noticed this strange symptom only after I had done that. 
But the problem /might/ predate my use of HellDiver to delete messages.

Anyhow, this isn't a major problem; just an annoyance. I have not been 
able to repeat the bug, wherever it resides.

-Bryan Lockwood (system@cojones.com)  (1@501 WWIVnet)
"Into the trough of digital overkill I dove, raucously snorting
  and oinking."
From: coneill@polarbear.rahul.net (Chris O'Neill)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Problems with "From " header?
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 09:42:38 CST
Organization: Polar Bear Heaven BBS - Rankin Inlet, NWT

dawson@willard.atl.ga.us (Willard Dawson) writes:

> This is the second time I've received email from slammer!brad over an
> apparent problem with mail from my site.  I've not heard this from any
> other person, until the recent posts concerning other potential problems
> with Waffle's creation of the "From " header.  Has anyone received flak
> over this?  Or am being unduly persectued!? :->  Here is the text of the
> message as sent to me by brad:
> >
[unimportant text removed to save space...]
> >
> > From willard!dawson  Wed Jan  6 04:14:40 1993
>
> There's a ^M right here between willard and !dawson.

I've not seen that problem, but I'm getting a SPACE at that spot in any
messages I send using PC-Elm (i.e. it goes out as "polarbear !coneill").
Anything sent out using the Waffle editor is okay.

Can't say I know what's causing this, as everything in my pcelm.rc file looks
normal.  But if you hear what the problem is, I'd sure appreciate hearing
about it because the two sound related.

Chris
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From: Jonathan Herr <herrj@valnet.vincennes.in.us.vincennes.in.us>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: uucico problems
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 07:20:28 EST
Organization: WVCF, Vincennes, IN, USA

patrick@actrix.gen.nz (Pat Cain) writes:

> For the last week or so I've noticed that my copy of UUCICO is just
> freezing at the end of a connection (whether incoming or outgoing).
> I haven't made any configuration changes in the last week.

I've been experiencing similar problems while connected to an Amiga
running Mat Dillon's UUCP for Cnet.  I never have a problem with my
connection to a Sun machine, though.  We're still debugging it.....



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From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: FAQ addition about QWK (was Re: Offline Readers)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 06:34:49 MST
Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada
X-Newsreader: rusnews v0.99

I have just mailed this to fenner@cs.psu.edu - if I've muffed up the
wafline info, please correct it.



you might want to add two questions:  (actually, PLEASE add two questions)

  - how can I have waffle handle QWK mail for my users?

which could talk about wafmail, which only works with 1.64 unless you
combine it with `explode' and `makebox' in a batch file

  - how can I have waffle handle QWK news for my users

short answer: please don't do this to the rest of us

medium answer: you can't, really, without breaking something (either
the news you send out or the software you expect users to have).
QWK itself is more limiting than RFC-1036, and it shows.

the facts are:

  your users don't want to use waffle, which is fine.  some of them
  don't have DOS machines.  some of them don't have disk space.  this
  is no problem.  of course, your users don't have a divine right to
  read news offline, either.  if someone doesn't understand this,
  there will be a problem, definitely.

  for news QWK as it stands just can't handle it.

also, mention Rhys' planned Helldiver packet format stuff, which
includes QWK as an optional subset.
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From: jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: The Waffle Bowl
Date: 6 Jan 93 01:38:54 GMT
Organization: The little node that could...

bob@1776.COM (Robert Coe) writes:

> You'd better start planning now for the 1994 Waffle Bowl!  With a couple of
> teams and a place to play, you can burn Waffle into the consciousness of the
> American public right alongside of OS/2!  A Silicon Valley site for the game
> would be most appropriate, of course, e.g. Stanford Stadium or Candlestick 
> Park.  For teams, I suggest UC Berkeley (Unix) vs U of Washington or U of 
> Seattle (MS-DOS).  Maybe you could even get the International House of Pan-
> cakes to help with the funding.  (BTW, I  don't want any credit for the idea;
> just consider it to be my gift to the Waffle community!)  :^)

     Better yet, why not just get the folks at Aunt Jamima and Leggo to
start a team... ;-) After all, what's Waffle without Syrup?? :-)

                                   --Jeff

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