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From: cazander%serigate@phcoms.seri.philips.nl (Koos Cazander)
Subject: Re: Apollo program to give System Type?
Originator: news@phcoms.seri.philips.nl
Organization: SERI-CEN Network Services, Philips C&P, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 10:59:15 GMT

Brian D. Carlstrom (bri@athena.mit.edu) wrote:
: is there a program i can run on the apollo that will return
: a short answer system type such as just 'apollo' or even
: 'sau7' or 'sau8'? sorta like machtype or hosttype or 
: arch on the sun.

: -bri

We use something like the script below, to detemine the machine type:

--
#!/bin/sh
# Determine the machine type and architecture.

if [ -d '`node_data' ];	then			# Apollo
	echo apollo.${ISP=m68k}
	exit 0
fi
if [ -f /bin/arch ];	then			# Sun
	echo `/bin/arch | sed -e s/Sun/sun/`
	exit 0
fi
if [ -f /bin/uname ];	then			# Others
	sysname=`/bin/uname -m`
	case $sysname in
		9000/[678]*)		echo hp.pa;;
		9000/[34]*)		echo hp.m68k;;
		*)			echo $sysname;;
	esac
	exit 0
fi
echo Unknown
exit 1
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.apollo:4218 sci.math.symbolic:3409
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 10:47:28 CET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo,sci.math.symbolic
From: inemes@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Istvan Nemes)
Distribution: world
Organization: RISC, J.K. University of Linz, Austria
Subject: Mathematica 2.0 on Apolllo


--
Has anyone experiences in installing Mathematica 2.0 on Apollo using
DomainOS Release 10.4 ?

Thanks

Please mail to inemes@risc.uni-linz.ac.at.

Nemes Istvan
From: weule@convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Weule)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: source for parallel device
Date: 12 Jan 1993 20:16:09 +0100
Organization: Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet Duesseldorf
NNTP-Posting-Host: convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de
Summary: source available for parallel device
Keywords: device driver


Hello,

I have build a centronics interface with a 8255 pio and an inverter.
To use it, I have written a device driver (GPIO) and the I/O library for the
file to access the interface. The prsvr is writing to this special file
(like /dev/pio).

If you are running SR10.3 and you know how to write one character to your
device, you should be able to change my source for your hardware.

You can get the source via ftp:

clio.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de:/apollo/dev_pio.tar.Z  (134.99.128.3)

I hope this helps, feel free to contact me for further questions

J"org Weule

P.S.: You can also get software to set the name (AEGIS) of a process.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: gsbg9079@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (G. Scott Braley)
Subject: FAQ Please
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:33:22 GMT

Could someone please post/direct me to the FAQ for this group?  Thanks.


				-Scott

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: andy@ie.utoronto.ca (Andy Sun)
Subject: a stupid question: how do I boot the SR10.2 from tape?
Organization: University of Toronto, Department of Industrial Engineering
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 01:46:43 GMT

Hi Everyone,

I am sure I can find this piece of information from the Apollo manuals,
except that someone here decided to THROW AWAY THE ENTIRE SET OF SR10.2
MANUALS DURING CHRISTMAS!! Now I have nothing to refer to. Can some
kind souls out there please email me the procedure to boot the SR10.2
OS tape from the quarter-inch tape drive of a DN3500? Thanks in advance.

Andy
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From: rees@pisa.citi.umich.edu (Jim Rees)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: source for parallel device
Date: 12 Jan 1993 21:27:00 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan CITI
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Jim.Rees@umich.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: pisa.citi.umich.edu
Keywords: device driver

In article <weule.726866140@convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de>, weule@convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Weule) writes:

  I have build a centronics interface with a 8255 pio and an inverter.
  To use it, I have written a device driver (GPIO) and the I/O library for the
  file to access the interface. The prsvr is writing to this special file
  (like /dev/pio).

I've made this driver available for ftp on archive.umich.edu.
From: rabbe@infolog.se (Rabbe Fogelholm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Dealing with a badspot
Date: 4 Jan 93 10:02:08 GMT
Organization: Infologics AB, Sollentuna, Sweden

My Apollo disk currently contains a big file that I can't read
properly.  The read (2) routine fails with errno = 5 ("I/O error")
after successfully reading several megabytes, but long before having
reached end of file.

Running SALVOL with the -A option produced the following diagnostic:

    I/O errors occurred in
    50191 (32A-1-5) in VTOC
        returned status = 00080009
    >> name not found <<
    UID = 5D3A893B.300206EE VTOCX = 004FE850

The UID above refers to the faulty file; I found out by using UCTOB
and CTOB (surely there should be a more elegant way to find the UID of
a file).

Does this indicate a so-called badspot?  Could I use INVOL option 9 to
add it to the existing badspot list?  If so, how do I derive the
badspot address in the format required by INVOL?  Do I at some point
have to translate between base-10 and hexadecimal notation?  (The
pieces of information "50191" and "32A-1-5" above suggest a mixture of
decimal and hex notation, and so does the listing produced by INVOL
option 6 too.)

Thankful for any advice. BTW, we run the fine old SR9.7.

________________________________________________________________________
Rabbe Fogelholm, Infologics AB     rabbe@infolog.se    fax: +46 8 960846
From: rfh3273@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com (Dick Harrigill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: Help with RODIME Drive!!!!!!
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:07:47 GMT
Organization: Boeing Commercial Airplane Group, Seattle

In article <1992Dec23.125926.6549@edsi.plexus.COM> chuck@edsi.plexus.COM (Chuck Tomasi) writes:
>I would have to disagree about the shock idea from a personal basis.
>While installing a 400T machine I was taking it off the shipping doc.
>It started out vertical on the hand truck, but when I stopped moving it
>fell flat on its side with a very loud slam.  Both internal drives were
>fine and are still going a year later.

Most newer disks have an automatic locking mechanism when powered off
(thus you need not park heads any longer).  They can withstand a pretty
good shock.  The real test is bumping/moving the machine while the drive 
is spinning.


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From: rees@pisa.citi.umich.edu (Jim Rees)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: Dealing with a badspot
Date: 4 Jan 1993 20:53:49 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan CITI
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Jim.Rees@umich.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: pisa.citi.umich.edu

In article <1993Jan4.100208.10425@infolog.se>, rabbe@infolog.se (Rabbe Fogelholm) writes:

  The UID above refers to the faulty file; I found out by using UCTOB
  and CTOB (surely there should be a more elegant way to find the UID of
  a file).

You can get a program called "luids" from archive.umich.edu that will tell
you the uids (object, parent, owner, etc) associated with a file.

  Does this indicate a so-called badspot?  Could I use INVOL option 9 to
  add it to the existing badspot list?

You could, but it would be better to reformat the track with fixvol.  See
the FAQ for a discussion of both methods.  You'll also want to run lsyserr,
and if the disk appears to be deteriorating, you will want to reformat the
whole thing.

Since you've got a bad vtoc block, there will be a large chunk of the file
that you can't get at.  After repairing the disk you'll have to restore the
file from backup.
From: rees@pisa.citi.umich.edu (Jim Rees)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: csh bug
Date: 12 Jan 1993 21:31:47 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan CITI
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Jim.Rees@umich.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: pisa.citi.umich.edu

For a good time, type this into a csh:

!o%88888888f

You'll need to send a SIGHUP to the shell to get it to stop.  By the way,
this isn't specific to Apollo, most versions of csh have this bug.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: psycho@brtpa25.bnr.ca (Paul Jezioranski)
Subject: BSD 4.3 make Problem: pattern substitution 
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Inc.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:46:04 GMT

        I have encountered a problem using /bin/make on an Apollo running
Domain SR10.3. The problem deals with pattern substitution. Below is an
example:

#+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
# sample Makefile
#

SRCS1 = source1.c source2.c
SRCS = $(SRCS1) source3.c
OBJS = $(SRCS:.c=.o)

default: $(OBJS)

$(OBJS): $(SRCS)

#
# End of sample Makefile
#---------------------------

        Looking at this makefile, I would assume that the three source files
(source1.c, source2.c, source3.c) would compile and produce object files
(source1.o, source2.o, source3.o). This is not the case with /bin/make.
Instead the error message:

        "Make:  Don't know how to make source1.c source2.c"

appears. Using GNU Make version 3.62, the compilations proceed as expected.
It appears that in the pattern substitution line of the Makefile (i.e. the
line with "OBJS = $(SRCS:.c=.o)"), only source3.c gets converted to source3.o.
The ".c" in the SRCS1 variable do not get converted (i.e. source1.c and
source2.c do NOT get converted to source1.o and source2.o).

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: rhs9145@ultb.isc.rit.edu (R.H. Starmer)
Subject: apollo modem connections
Originator: rhs9145@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 02:19:39 GMT
From: davidy@HWCAE.AZ.HONEYWELL.COM (David Young)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Bug in Domain/OS NIS (NFS4.1)
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:45:40 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


I just received my "official" copy of NFS 4.1 the other day, and
noticed that the bug I reported to HP has not been fixed (too late to
make the final cut, but I was hoping they would at least include an
errata sheet! :)

The problem is the services map is created using the wrong word for
the database key.  I've confirmed this by looking at NIS on a Sun and
HP-UX machine.  It becomes noticeable when you boot a Sun.  When it
binds itself to a slave that is hosted by the NIS master on the
Apollo, it complains about a number of services not being available.
I traced it back to an incorrectly built NIS services map.

To fix the problem, find this in the /var/yp/Makefile:

services.time: $(DIR)/services
	@(awk 'BEGIN { OFS="\t"; } $$1 !~ /^#/ { print $$2, $$0 }' \
	    $(DIR)/services $(CHKPIPE))| $(MAKEDBM) - $(YPDBDIR)/$(DOM)/services.byname;

And change the:
 { print $$1, $$0 }
to be:
 { print $$2, $$0 }

You can refer HP to:

     Service Request Number 5003095000
     Customer reference number W1813856
     Comsys number J600


One other thing I noticed too.  If you look in the Makefile at how the
.group file is created, it will silently (without warning!) drop
group entries that are >= to 512 characters:

	@(rm -f .group; cat $(DIR)/group | awk 'BEGIN { FS=":"} /^[a-zA-Z0-9_]/ { \
		if (length < 512) print $$0 \
		}' > .group)

So if your NIS map is missing a group or two... this might be the
reason if you have a large number of users that are members of one
particular group.



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: sasdzr@borel.unx.sas.com (David F. Ross)
Subject: tar problem
Originator: sasdzr@borel.unx.sas.com
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:01:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


When untar'ing (tar xvf) a tar file created on another host (sun),
midway through the process it stops and prints a message telling me
to "mount the volume and then hit return".  I'm stuck at this point...
I've never seen this on other unix systems...

BTW, my apollo is a DN3500 running SR10.4...

Any suggestions??

thanks,
David
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: booting from optical disk
From: lofink@unixd3.neuronet.pitt.edu (Raymond M Lofink)
Date: 5 Jan 93 23:15:27 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.apollo
Organization: /afs/pitt.edu/usr31/lofink/.organization

Hi.  I have an optical disk drive attached to a 425t with an
internal hard disk.  I currently have to disable the internal disk
when I want to boot from an optical disk.  Does anybody know a
'DI' mneumonic debugger option that would allow me to boot
from optical disk in the same way that 'DI C' allows one to boot
from cartridge tape?

-thanx in advance

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From: weule@convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Weule)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: source for a device driver
Date: 6 Jan 1993 11:54:02 +0100
Organization: Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet Duesseldorf
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de
Summary: driver for parallel devive
Keywords: device driver


Hello,

I have build a centronics interface with a 8255 pio and an inverter.
To use it, I have written a device driver (GPIO) and the I/O library for the
file to access the interface. The prsvr is writing to this special file
(like /dev/pio).

Because of my manuals I'm not able to install my software on a machine with
SR10.4.
If you are running SR10.3 and you know how to write one character to your
device, you should be able to change my source for your hardware.

You can get the source via ftp:

clio.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de:/apollo/dev_pio.tar.Z  (134.99.128.3)

I hope this helps, feel free to contact me for further questions

J"org Weule                                         weule@cs.uni-duesseldorf.de

P.S.: There si also software to set the name (AEGIS) of a process.


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From: rfh3273@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com (Dick Harrigill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: FAQ & SCSI-2
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:23:52 GMT
Organization: Boeing Commercial Airplane Group, Seattle

FAQ #37:

>37)  I'm trying to get a SCSI-2 type disk to work with my Apollo but it
>     does seem to work. What did I do wrong?
>Answer:
>NOTHING. But Apollo doesn't like to be hooked up to an SCSI-2 drive!

I recently received some 425ts with SCSI-2 drives.  Specifically, they
contained dual 210Mb Quantum PD210S.  After what seemed to be a successful
invol and install, the disks were no longer readable. I was using Domain/OS 
10.3.5.

However, with the installation of new boot proms by HP, the disks now work fine.

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From: rees@pisa.citi.umich.edu (Jim Rees)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: Apollo TRACEBACK system call
Date: 12 Jan 1993 17:38:51 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan CITI
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Jim.Rees@umich.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: pisa.citi.umich.edu

In article <C0r1ws.7AB@alta-oh.com>, chris@zeus.alta-oh.com (Chris Murphy) writes:

  I'm looking for a system call (under 10.4) which returns
  traceback information. I figure such a call must exist,
  because /com/tb manages to do it somehow.

You probably want errlog_$traceback.  It will only do a traceback for the
process it's running in.  If you want cross-process tracebacks, like 'tb'
does, that's considerably harder.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: cazander%serigate@phcoms.seri.philips.nl (Koos Cazander)
Subject: Re: Cant get Lint working on apollo
Originator: news@phcoms.seri.philips.nl
Organization: SERI-CEN Network Services, Philips C&P, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:11:27 GMT

Rob Hindman (robh@bcstec.ca.boeing.com) wrote:
: Newsgroups: boeing.unix comp.sys.apollo
: Subject: getting lint working on Apollo workstations
: Distribution: world

: I am having problems getting "lint" working on the most fundamental
: of C programs, hello world.  Needless to say, this is very 
: disturbing to me, as lint is one of my new years resolutions.

: The error that I am getting is this: 

: $ lint hello.c
: stdio.h(108): syntax error
: stdio.h(109):
:         **** cannot recover from this error ****

: [deleted]

One of the problems is ANSI C, lint would recognize prototypes,
and HP (and sun also) would not update lint, they think the ANSI C compiler
will flag all errors :-(.

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From: thompson@PAN.SSEC.HONEYWELL.COM (jt -- John Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: re: SYSTYPE, where is it defined
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:36:30 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


> I'm trying to repair a bent 10.3.5 installation. Could anyone tell me where
> $SYSTYPE is defined initially for the system?

In `node_data/etc/environ, you'll find SYSTYPE and ENVIRONMENT defined.  This
is the resolution-path of the link /etc/environ.  In it, you should find the
following comments --
# This file (/etc/environ) is used to specify the default environment for a 
# node, as well as the default systype.  It is a link to `node_data/etc/environ.
# 
# A version of this file may be placed in a user's ~/.environ 
# and used to define the preferred environment and systype for that user
#
#    ENVIRONMENT  controls elements of the environment, except naming, and includes:
#                    setting of default key_defs
#                    setting of user's default shell when nothing is in the registry
#                    setting of default PATH
#               Valid settings are: aegis, bsd, sysv
#
#    SYSTYPE      controls name resolution.  A better name would be desirable
#                 but compatibility requires that we use SYSTYPE.
#               Valid settings are:  bsd4.3, sys5.3
#

Note that `node_data is /sys/node_data on disked machines, and is
//partner/sys/node_data.NODEID on diskless nodes (booted off //partner).


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From: kuku@acds.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Christoph Kukulies)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: PSK installation 10.3.5 quirks
Date: 11 Jan 1993 11:58:26 GMT
Organization: I.Physikalisches Institut RWTH-Aachen
Distribution: world
Reply-To: kuku@acds.physik.rwth-aachen.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: acds.physik.rwth-aachen.de


I have a problem with a probably a bit broken PSK installation - due to lack of disk space etc. I tried to install at least three times and last time I did it manually using minst and install++ from a running system, not from the boot tape.

I cannot get rid of one quirk:

When I type wd /bin I get

?(sh) - "/bin" too many compnonents in pathname (OS/naming server)

Also, during install++ I get two or three messages that tell:

Warning: not updating /bsd4.3 cannot install through links

And before that:

several:

WARNING: //node//path... would replace a link - item is ignored


Any help appreciated.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo,comp.sys.hp
From: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson))
Subject: InterWorks Call for Papers (Universities SIG)
Originator: system@aurum.chem.utoronto.ca
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:42:18 GMT

Call For Papers for InterWorks Conference, April 25-28, 1993.

Anyone, anywhere, who has an idea for a paper for presentation in the
Universities Special Interest Group at the InterWorks Conference in
Phoenix, Arizona, should contact me at your earliest convenience.
Note that this meeting covers both Domain/OS and HP-UX, either as
separate environments or interoperating.

Possible topics include how HP equipment is used in teaching/research,
how universities have cooperated with industry/government in software
and/or hardware development, how a (heterogeneous) network has functioned
in your environment, etc. If your presentation fits better with another
SIG (which is often the case), I will pass the suggestions along to the
appropriate SIG chairs, but please think about what you could present.

Note that this is the InterWorks meeting for 1993, so this is your
only chance in 1993 to get together with other university users and HP
representatives. It will not be held in conjunction with Interex, and 
there will probably be a SysAdmin SIG conference in the fall.

Mike Peterson, InterWorks Universities SIG Chair.
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