From: sheaffer@netcom.com (Robert Sheaffer)
Subject: Re: Incorrect Orgasms? (was: Please explain this quote)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:02:12 GMT

In article <84wqTB5w164w@cellar.org> revpk@cellar.org (Brian 'Rev P-K' Siano) writes:
>sheaffer@netcom.com (Robert Sheaffer) writes:
>
>> 
>>   Many women who have somehow missed out
>> on being so informed go on blisfully having Incorrect orgasms (the action
>> of the penis does, of course, result in motion of the clitoris),
>> so long as the man continues long enough.
>
>	You know something? If this is really what Robert thinks is true
>about female sexual response, I get the feeling he's never actually seen a
>woman have an orgasm.


      Brian, you are SO full of shit that it's truly remarkable.


>
>	You know, I'm glad I buffer Robert's posts-- hardly anyone I know
>actually believes that a human being can be so consumed with sexual
>paranoia. 

     All hail Brian Siano, the Reverend Politically Correct! Without
     him, the Usenet would be at the mercy of that crazed madman
     Sheaffer!

     Notice how, as usual, Brian and certain of the other Correctoids
     are QUITE unable to take strong issue with someone's posting
     without also claiming that the poster is a sorry, misbegotten,
     twisted, and totally worthless human being.  "Anybody who threatens 
     my narrow little mindset must be Evil itself!" Gosh, Brian must
     *himself* realize how wobbly all the stuff is he believes in, to
     get all bent out of shape at me like this. Folks, I see this kind
     of stuff, and it goes to my head; I *must be* more influential than
     I sometimes think!


> Not content to postulate a weird conspiracy of lesbian feminists
>seeking to deprive men of sexually-responsive women (a theory Robert
>created, no doubt, shortly after that water-fluoridation and
>purity-of-essence insight), 

     "A woman needs  a man like a fish needs a bicycle". Hmmmm.

> Robert seems to feel that men's use of
>techniques other than penile penetration is the _only_ legitimate way to
>experience orgasm. (He did say this, you realize; penile penetration is
>about the only method lesbians _can't_ use. 

      No, he didn't. He objected to the dogma, "the phallus won't work, 
      so you MUST please her like lesbians do." (What a fantasy-land we
      must be living in, if we have allowed lesbian-type sexual activity
      to be defined as 'the norm' for MALES!) Notice that this does not
      exclude (for example), "On Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, we'll
      use the phallus, on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays we'll use
      fingers and tongues, and on Sundays we'll use gerbils."

      It's amazing how some bright people on the Usenet mess up even the
      most elementary logic when their pretty little dogmas are threatened.


>	So, methinks Robert, being areal man, eschews such 'lesbo' methods
>as manual stimulation, delicate licking of the nipples, healthy back
>massages, kneading muscle tension down the legs, and especially
>cunnilingus-- the insidious plot of lesbians everywhere, eh?

    You'll just have to keep guessing. I will *not* demonstrate this
    for you.  :)

-- 
  
        Robert Sheaffer - Scepticus Maximus - sheaffer@netcom.com
  
 Past Chairman, The Bay Area Skeptics - for whom I speak only when authorized!

       "Beware when the great God lets loose a thinker on this planet.
        Then all things are at risk. It is as when a conflagration has
        broken out in a great city, and no man knows what is safe, or
        where it will end."
                               - Emerson: Essay, "Circles"