HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: s3007904@MACKAY.MPCE.MQ.EDU.AU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: modem disconnecting
Date: 1 Oct 92 16:07:46 GMT




help!

	I am having problems with my modem. It keeps disconnecting at r
random time periods for reasons I can't explain. I am using a the telefax 
modem by global village on a mac lc. I live in Australia there for the phone
company telecom is running the phone lines. I think there is something wrong `
with the phone lines.


email me please 
s3007904@mackay.mpce.mq.edu.au
From: spoelhof@kodak.com (Gordon C. Spoelhof)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: SMTP router (was SNMP router)
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:44:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: eastman.3752
Reply-To: spoelhof@kodak.com (Gordon C. Spoelhof)
Organization: Eastman Kodak Company - Health Sciences Division

In article <3738@eastman.UUCP>, spoelhof@kodak.com (Gordon C. Spoelhof) 
writes:
> 
> Does anyone know of a Mac based SNMP mail router?  AUX solutions are
> not viable.

OOPS!!!  I meant SMTP not SNMP.  The mind thinks one thing but the hands
type another...

Sorry for the techno-blunder...


Gordon Spoelhof / Eastman Kodak Co. / HSD 2-8-C-39105
100 Carlson Road / Rochester, NY 14653-9105
e-mail:  spoelhof@kodak.com       phone: (716)253-9734
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: anderson@fpg.uwaterloo.ca (Glenn Anderson)
Subject: GVC v.32bis modems and ARA
Organization: Department of Computing services
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:16:08 GMT

Is there an ARA script for the GVC V.32bis (FM-144V) modem?
If so where can one find it.
From: gallo@sirius.gsi.fr (Jean-Luc Gallo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: MAC TCP Dev KIT
Summary: MAC TCP Dev KIT
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:06:38 GMT
Organization: GSI Generale de Service Informatique
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]



--
I am looking for a TCP/IP development kit on the Mac system 7.* which
supports the sockets interface. Does anyone know about such a product ?

If it exists, something over the MacTCP development kit would of course be OK.

PS: The TCP/IP product from Novell does have this interface but Novell
has announced that they will stop development of this product...

Thanks for your help

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: jess@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jess M Holle)
Subject: Current Weather Map on Tek Screen: HOW??
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 02:49:02 GMT

In several ads for VersaTerm (Pro) I have seen weather maps shown under 
the Tektronix terminal emulator screen.  I was wondering if anyone knew 
what ftp or telnet site could supply the data and display program that 
could produce such a Tek plot.  I have VersaTerm Pro, so the actual plot 
viewing is not a problem.  I simply want to know where I can get the raw
data and the Tek plot creation program (or simply the weather plot in
Tek format, if that's possible).  I'm hoping that I can wake up each
morning and pop up a daily weather map (national and/or local).  I have
no TV, so this would be nice.

Thanks a lot.

Jess Holle

P.S.  Sorry if this is not the appropriate group for this, but I didn't
      know where to post this.
From: gutowski@buster.cps.msu.edu (Andy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: FAXstf and Comm Port Problem
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:49:07 GMT
Organization: MSU
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6F1DBAED30101D7@iah-two.cl.msu.edu>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 2 Oct 92 10:57:50 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9

In article <1992Sep30.184210.3221@cs.sfu.ca> Peter Lupini,
lupini@cs.sfu.ca writes:
>You quit from a communications program while the modem is still 
>connected (I do this quite a bit when switching between terminal
programs).
>FAXstf immediately tries to grab the port, and it tries sending an
>initialization string to the modem (you can see the lights flashing). Of
>course the modem doesn't respond properly since it is on line. FAXstf
seems
>to give up and stay in data mode no matter what until the computer is 
>rebooted. 
>
>Can anyone help out with this?


I think you can enable fax mode without restarting you computer.
Once  your port is not busy, got to chooser and select settings for
FAXstf.
Under software settings there is a "software on/off" toggle.  Turning it
on
should do the job.

I had similar problems with Appletalk Remote Access when answer mode
was turned on.

good luck.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: rankin@ms.uky.edu (David W. Rankin Jr.)
Subject: Re: bug in BinHex 4.0?
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:55:05 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

In article <1286@eplunix.UUCP> das@eplunix.UUCP (David Steffens) writes:
>Recently I downloaded a number of binhexed files from various InterNet
>archive sites.  All but one can be converted just fine with BinHex 4.0.
>The file that fails, WHITE-KNIGHT-1114-UPDATER.HQX, gets a checksum error
>of $5190 after 32Kb.  BinHex 5.0 also fails in exactly the same way.
>However, this same file appears to convert correctly (at least no error
>is reported) with both DeHQX 2.0 and Compact Pro 1.33.
>  <rest deleted for the sake of brevity>

BinHex 4.0 is ancient, and 5.0 is not much newer. It is lucky that the
things even run on the newer machines, much less to keep up with the
little tweaks that have happened in BinHex since then. Stick with Compact Pro
or DeHQX, and you'll do just fine.

David W. Rankin, Jr.,  Mac Archiver for f.ms.uky.edu   Yorick on IRC
rankin@ms.uky.edu  rankin@ukma.BITNET rankin@ukma.UUCP uunet!ukma!rankin
Alternate addresses: rankin@mik.uky.edu  djrank00@aix3090b.uky.edu
---<Insert standard "These are my thoughts, and only mine." disclaimer here>---
"Now all has been heard;/ Here is the conclusion of the matter:/ Fear God and
keep his commandments,/ for this is the whole duty of man."
    "The Teacher", Ecclesiastes 12:13 (NIV)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: mspace@netcom.com (Brian Hall)
Subject: Re: Termy and PB170 keyboard...
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 00:54:18 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.202738.17676@gallant.apple.com> Alexander M. Rosenberg <alexr@apple.com> writes:
>In article <lux.718222330@sol.UVic.CA> Michael O'Henly, lux@sol.UVic.CA writes:
>>	Is it possible that the VT102 terminal tool just plain doesn't
>>understand PowerBook cursor keys?
>
>Yes.

Is there a database, technote, or other repository of this sort of
information?  It would stop lots of hair pulling of developers and tech
support people.


-- 

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From: burglin@amber.mgh.harvard.edu (Thomas Burglin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: PowerBook highspeed patch  = System 7.1 not free!
Date: 2 Oct 92 07:32:00 GMT
Organization: Molecular Biology, Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1agacpINNsii@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, bl668@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David P. Alverson) writes...
> 
>In a previous article, paul@idg.nl (Paul Molenaar) says:
> 
>>I have heard rumours that Apple "alpha'd" a patch (software) to
.. deleted
> 
>There is a file called PowerBook Tuner on the PowerPort installer
>disk from Global Village.  Get Info says its 1.0a2.  What I have heard
>is that Apple isnt real happy that GV is distributing this.  Also, 
>Apple isnt planning to distribute the PowerBook Tuner in that form.  
>Instead, the fixes will be part of System 7.1.
> 
>  -- Dave
> 

Well, seems to me that Apple should release system 7.1 at least
to powerbook owners for free, if they don't fix an obvious bug!
Yet another reason why system 7.1 should be free

Thomas 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: bill@mars.dgrc.doc.ca (Bill Robertson)
Subject: SUMMARY:remove comm toolbox from 6.0.7
Organization: Communications Research Center
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 17:04:28 GMT

I asked about removing the Communications Toolbox from a 6.0.7 system.
The Insatller script I used (from CE) does not allow the normal
<option key> remove approach.

Thanks to Terry Forrester  (terryf@arizona.edu) who suggested:

>What you need to do is to get a hold of the CTB installation disk, usually
>labeled Communications 1, or something like that. This is available as a
>binhex-ed DiskCopy disk image via anonymous ftp from ftp.apple.comm, in the
>/dts/mac/sys.soft/netcomm directory file name >communications-1-0-1-image.hqx.
>Once you have this on a floppy disk (800k variety)...

And Jon Schuster (jons@bugs.wrq.com) who added:

>1. Boot from the Comm Toolbox install disk, and run the Installer.
>
>2. At the Easy Install dialog box, click Customize.
>
>3. Select the disk you want to uninstall from and select Communications
>Toolbox 1.0 as the item to uninstall.
>
>4. Hold down the Option key and the Install button changes to Remove.
>
>5. Click Remove. When done, quit the installer and reboot.

>You mentioned that you installed on a System 6.0.7 disk, so removing
>the toolbox is okay. You should never try to install the Comm Toolbox
>on a System 7 disk, or worse, try to remove it. It's already built into
>the MacOS under System 7, and installing or removing it with an installer
>supplied by a third party can be disastrous.


Thanks also to:
Jeff gitchel     jeff_gitchel%cedsm@uunet.uu.net
Mats.Bredell     Mats.Bredell@udac.uu.se
tim endres       time@ice.com
Terry Teague     teague@apple.com

Bill Robertson CRC/DRL Box 11490, Station H Ottawa, ON, CANADA K2H 8S2
(613) 998-2819 Fax:990-7987 bill@mars.dgrc.doc.ca  CIS 76476,515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: t89djo@tdb.uu.se (David Jonsson)
Subject: ARA script for DoveFax+?
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:49:12 GMT

How do I get my DoveFax to work with ARA 1.0?
If a script cannot be had, is it easy to write it on your own?

David


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Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.comm:9591 comp.sys.mac.system:12476 comp.unix.aux:3666
From: loganj@yvax.byu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: Macs sharing unix printers? What's easiest?
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:02:49 -0700
Distribution: na
Organization: Brigham Young University

In article <1992Oct1.141914.21370@samba.oit.unc.edu>, frey@med.unc.edu 
(Eric Frey) writes:
> I have recently been trying to solve the same problem on our network. I
> considered some of the commercial products already mentioned, however
> they aren't available for Decstations (Which is predominantly what we
> have).  Columbia Appletalk Protocols is a package of stuff that does
> what the commercial systems do (macs can print through Appletalk
> protocols to unix printqueues, unix box can print to ps printers that
> understand Appletalk printers, and the unix systems can act as a file
> server for the mac). I was able to compile the package very easily for
> a sparcstation slc and use the slc as a file server and print queue for
> my quadra. I have not yet tested whether I can print to an Appletalk
> printer on EtherTalk because I don't have one yet (ours are all on
> localtalk). ...

Ditto.  We have been using CAP on a DecStation 3100 w/native Ethertalk 
to allow printing from Macs to unix postscript printers for about two 
years now.  CAP also permits us to use our DecStation as an Appleshare 
volume (Macintosh file server) for faculty & students.  We haven't had 
any problems with it - a very satisfied customer.

Regards,
Jim Logan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: kpols@balaena.bio.vu.nl (Kees Pols)
Subject: Sources of a POP server that runs on the Mac
Organization: Dept. Genetics, Free Univ., Amsterdam
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:42:13 GMT

Dear netters,

A friend of mine lacking Internet access asked me to post next message:

I'm looking for the sources of a POP Server that runs on the Macintosh.
I'm aware of MailStop, but that doesn't include the sources.

The POP isn't too difficult to implement, but I thought I'd ask first
before developing it for myself. I can't just run MailStop, since my
only e-mail connection to the net is through a MacPost mailserver.
What I want is to pickup my mail at that server using the POP protocol.

Please send any replies directly to me at schulte@klin.far.ruu.nl,
since I don't have access to Usenet News (yet), if there's an interest,
I'll let you all know about any info I get,

thanks in advance,

Bas Schulte.
Internet: schulte@klin.far.ruu.nl
From: munroe@dmc.com (Dick Munroe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: wanted: PowerPoint/Gold Configuration for UUCP
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:06:37 EDT
Organization: Doyle, Munroe Consultants, Inc., Hudson, MA

In article <1992Sep27.165438.4584@dmc.com>, munroe@dmc.com (Dick Munroe) writes:
> I'm looking for pointers to PowerBook (170) internal modems, 
> V.32/V.42 bis plus FAX, preferably compatible with Apple's FAX software. 
> Are there any good ones out there?

The PowerPoint/Gold won hands down.  I have one in the mail.  It should
be here tomorrow.  Anybody have a suggested configuration for using it
with UUCP?
-- 
Dick Munroe				Internet: munroe@dmc.com
Doyle Munroe Consultants, Inc.		UUCP: ...uunet!thehulk!munroe
267 Cox St.				Office: (508) 568-1618
Hudson, Ma.				FAX: (508) 562-1133

GET CONNECTED!!! Send mail to info@dmc.com to find out about DMConnection.
From: ferch@ucs.ubc.ca (Les Ferch)
Subject: Re: Macs sharing unix printers? What's easiest?
Keywords: Mac, Unix, Printing, TCP/IP
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 07:52:17 GMT

>>My question is, are there any Chooser-level printer drivers for the Mac
>>that will allow a Macintosh program to print to a unix printing queue?

Check out InterPrint (I think that's what it's called) from Intercon. If I
remember correctly, it is what you are asking for. It was still in testing
back in July, but should be available by now, but I haven't heard much on
the net about it.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: rrwood@canrem.com (limited shell account - Roy Wood)
Subject: rnMac/UUPC and general UseNet newsgroup stuff
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 01:59:26 GMT

I've spoken to a number of people lately about rnMac, the newsreader I've
written to be used with UUPC/Toadnews, and also had some problems getting
back in touch with a number of people.  For those I've not responded to,
sorry, but I've moved to a new account (this time for good).  Please try
mailing me here at rrwood@canrem.uucp.

For anyone else who's interested, I'll mention that rnMac is a shareware
program designed to be used with UUPC and ToadNews, which means you can set
up a news/mail feed on your Mac as long as you manage to convince someone
to supply you with a uucp account on an InterNet-connected machine.  For a
change, this Mac newsreader doesn't require TCP/IP!

A beta-test copy of rnMac may be found on sumex, and probably elsewhere, too.
This copy was posted to keep people from pestering me to send them a copy; it
is not a final release, and contains *no* real documentation, other than the
bit in the help screen.  However, if you've set up UUPC, you should find rnMac
pretty easy to configure (the UUPC docs are excellent and also relevant to
rnMac).

As for ToadNews, the news unbatcher/expirer written by John Mah at the
University of Waterloo, I don't think it's been released yet.  You might
pester John until he either sends you a copy or posts a copy to sumex.
At last check, John was reachable as jpmah@descartes.uwaterloo.ca.

Just FYI, ToadNews requires system 7, rnMac will run under system 6.  rnMac
is pretty useless without UUPC and ToadNews-- in fact, it requires UUPC
and ToadNews to have set up the news/mail folders and files before it can
run correctly.  And BTW, rnMac reads/sends mail, as well as allowing you to
read/post news.  Someday rnMac will come with an AppleTalk "NNTP" style server,
allowing you to set up a LocalTalk news server in, say, a highschool computer
lab (my plan).

Any more questions?

-Roy Wood
From: kevin@madvax.uwa.oz.au (Kevin Judd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: FaxModem & answering machines
Date: 29 Sep 1992 06:11:02 GMT
Organization: Maths Dept UWA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: qualup.maths.uwa.oz.au
Keywords: FaxModem


I want to use a faxmodem and an answering machine on the same line. Both are to be running
simultaneously and should work out who should take what. Does anyone know of a faxmodem
smart enough to listen in on a line and takeover when it hears a fax signal? Or some other
arrangement?

Bear in mind I'm in Australia where although most telephonic equipment should work, the 
goverment extracts a substantial sum to have it "tested" and registered. Consequently, many
products are not released here and so if you known several potential solutions I'd like
to known them all.
From: e5tx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Price for Supra?
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:20:40 EDT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell University

What is the cheapest price I can get for a bare Supra 14.4 faxmodem?

Tim

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart)
Subject: RE: VAX/Kermit/Mac-wrong file transfer!!!!!
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:22:20 GMT

No need to swear at it (-:  Just strip the first 128 bytes of the data fork
from the file - I use ClipBoard Magician's Read Data Fork command.  So you'll
read from byte 129 on....

Save the data, change the type & creator to what they SHOULD be, and you're
all set!

--  
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: eakaftan@isluga.puc.cl (Eduardo Andres Kaftanski)
Subject: Why MacSlip won't work on my   PowerBook??
Organization: Pontificia Universidad Catolica de Chile
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:38:55 GMT


Hi, does anybody know why MacSlip doesent seem to work
at 1200 or 2400 baud in a PowerBook 140. I've already
seen two cases here. I use Apple's internal 2400 modem
and works fine with Remote Access, VersaTerm Pro, and 
other nonSlip Programs.

MacSlip only does well at 300 baud, no compresion.

Need Help.
Thank in advance for feedback (both news or email)

-----------------------------------------------------

Eduardo Kaftanski Arancibia

eakaftan@isluga.puc.cl
IIC1112@ing.puc.cl

-----------------------------------------------------

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: dwade@svcdudes.com
Subject: MicroPhone news
Organization: Software Ventures, Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 23:25:36 GMT


Here's the official version:

MP Telnet Tool Coming Your Way If You're a Registered MicroPhone II 4.x Owner

News Flash! Attention all registered MicroPhone II 4.x owners waiting for the 
MP Telnet Tool! Software Ventures is now shipping its brand new Macintosh 
interactive communications software -- MicroPhone Pro -- which includes the MP 
Telnet Tool and FAXstf send and receive software. 

Due to overwhelming demand for the Telnet Tool, we ask your patience as we tend
to the crush of backorders. As it stands now, you should receive the Telnet 
Tool (plus a new version of your MicroPhone software optimized to run with 
Telnet) in the next three to four weeks -- absolutely free. As long as you're 
registered, you don't have to do a thing.

With the Telnet Tool, you'll be able to connect to any remote network that 
supports TCP/IP. Best of all, you'll be able to bring the full automation power
of MicroPhone along, making your online sessions easier than ever.

Once we send you your free software, you'll have everything our Pro package has
except send and receive software from STF Technologies, Inc., which lets you 
send faxes right from your Macintosh to fax machines and other Macintoshes. 
Registered MicroPhone II owners, though, can buy this separate package at a big
discount by calling Software Ventures directly at (510) 644-9275.

Are you registered? If not, call (510) 644-9275 right now. And if you've been 
waiting for the Telnet Tool to upgrade your MicroPhone II 2.0 or 3.0 software, 
now's the time. Just call 1-800-756-5624.

Software Ventures Corporation
-- 
Doug Wade  /  dwade@svcdudes.com  /   Disclaimer:  It's not official, folks. 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: karches@utdallas.edu (Tom Karches)
Subject: Re: PowerBook highspeed patch  = System 7.1 not free!
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:09:13 GMT

In article <2OCT199202324779@amber.mgh.harvard.edu> burglin@amber.mgh.harvard.edu (Thomas Burglin) writes:
>In article <1agacpINNsii@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, bl668@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David P. Alverson) writes...
>> 
>>In a previous article, paul@idg.nl (Paul Molenaar) says:
>> 
>>>I have heard rumours that Apple "alpha'd" a patch (software) to
>.. deleted
>> 
>>There is a file called PowerBook Tuner on the PowerPort installer
>>disk from Global Village.  Get Info says its 1.0a2.  What I have heard
>>is that Apple isnt real happy that GV is distributing this.  Also, 
>>Apple isnt planning to distribute the PowerBook Tuner in that form.  
>>Instead, the fixes will be part of System 7.1.
>> 
>>  -- Dave
>> 
>
>Well, seems to me that Apple should release system 7.1 at least
>to powerbook owners for free, if they don't fix an obvious bug!
>Yet another reason why system 7.1 should be free
>
>Thomas 


Maybe if you complain to Apple, they will send a free upgrade.

IMHO, all PowerBook users should get a free 7.1 upgrade or an 
official FREE release of the PB Tuner.

Tom Karches
karches@utdallas.edu
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From: 924babik@gw.wmich.edu (Lisamarie Gemma Babik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Extended Keyboard & Comm Programs
Date: 26 Sep 92 15:17:53 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <vs!p-jf.mspace@netcom.com>, mspace@netcom.com (Brian Hall) writes:
> 924babik@gw.wmich.edu (Lisamarie Gemma Babik) writes:
> 
>>If I buy an extended keyboard for my computer, is there a comm program 
>>(maybe Z-term or something) that will support the page up/page down keys?
> 
> Support it sending the key, or doing a page up/page down on the scrollback?
> 
> How about home and end?
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
>  \ | /   | Brian Hall                 mspace@netcom.com
>  - : -   | Mark/Space Softworks       Applelink: markspace
>   /|\    |                            America Online: MarkSpace
>  |-+-|   |
> /-\|/-\  | PUI. Programming Under the Influence.


Support it by sending the key.  In other words, I really want a keyboard 
that will work my like a VT220 terminal.  Our school uses a VAX system and 
it's very annoying to try and work in EDT without a page up/page down key.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm