Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: Perot and the Jewish controlled media
From: tb13@ellis.uchicago.edu (leon joel gross)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:56:16 GMT
Reply-To: tb13@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Jul27.052814.19513@ddsw1.mcs.com> arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) writes:
>tb13@ellis.uchicago.edu (leon joel gross) writes:
>: In article <1992Jul22.054203.6190@ddsw1.mcs.com> arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) writes:
>: >ARF says:
>: >
>: >I would like to think that a lot more could be gained by sitting down over
>: >a cup of coffee but I won't hold my breath.
>: >
>: >Are you capable od dealing on a one to one level with your hate and fear?
>: 
>: It is your hate that is the problem.  If you renounce all the hate
>: filled things you have said in the past, I will have no problem
>: sitting down with you.
>: 
>: >My phone number is 312 685 1878.  I will be waiting for you call.
>: 
>: I have some e-mail transcripts that ARF sent to somebody else, in a
>: group that has nothing to do with Jews or the Middle East.  I can't
>: post them without Mr. Schmidling's permission, but I will say that
>: what happened is that Jack was doing things in a group that were
>: harmful to the group, contrary to the spirit of the group, and against
>: the rules that govern net usage.
>: 
>: Someone (not Jewish) sent Jack a polite letter asking him to stop.
>: Jack reponded in email by 
>: 1)  "accusing" the person of being Jewish, using negative terminology,
>: and
>: 2)  accusing the person of being hostile to Mr Shmidling because Mr
>: Shmidling was not  
>: Jewish (or not Jewish enough) and saying that the person would not
>: treat someone who was Jewish (or really Jewish) that way.
>: 
>: I have permission of the receipient of Jack's mail to show the
>: mail to anyone else, so if anyone wants to see it, send me e-mail.
>: 
>: Mr Schmidling really has an obsession with Jews, as he brings up
>: Jewishness in discussions that have nothing do with Jews or Israel.  
>: 
>: ARF, deal with that obsession, renounce your hate, and then I will
>: call you.
>
>ARF says:

>As you have publicly misrepresented or just plain lied about anything I
>mighthave said to the other party/group, I sugest that you let ME see
>a copy of the rubbish you are spreading around on your little smear
>network.

I just e-mailed you a copy of the letter.   

>You can't publish it without my permission but have no compunction about
>passing it around?  You are sick.

E-mail is property of the recipient.  I have his permission. You give
me yours and I will post the mail.   

>I have visciously attacked on the home.brewing forum for everythign from the
>way my beer tastes to my mother and one need not be an antisemit to see the
>fingerprint of the most odious remarks.  When someone calles ma an 
>antisemit over brewing beer, there is indeed more than meets the eye.

>arf
>p.s. I am more than will and have apoloziges for things I have said that may
>have seemed hateful.  

Why don't you start with the constant theme of Jews controlling the press,
the boycott of Kosher food, the Hymie and Raghead song, support of 
David Duke and Ralph Winston, etc.    

>that is more than i can say for any Zionist I have ever
>met.  However, I refuse to apologize for things I never said or distortions of
>what I have said.  I am real sick of your bull shit and I refuse to respond to
>you anymore in public.  If you do not call me , I will simply write you off
>as a hypocrite and a bigot.

I just sent ARF a copy of the e-mail I was talking about.

Leon Gross
I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.

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