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From: un040251@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: No interest on Jerry Rice -- surprise??
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:07:29 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

article <1992Apr6.131002.16019@ncsu.edu>, easchwei@eos.ncsu.edu (ERIC ARNOLD SCHWEITZ) writes:
> In article <69599@ut-emx.uucp> milton@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Milton W. Kuo) writes:
>>In article <1992Mar30.222532.18409@athena.mit.edu> zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif) writes:
>>
>>>	Three months have gone by, and Jerry Rice is still without a
>>>contract.  I don't know whether 49ers and Rice are talking, but there
>>>is no interest whatsoever from other teams WRT Rice.  This is rather
>>>surprising because Rice is still in his prime, and I believe that he
>>>is one of the best offensive players in the game now and certainly
>>>worths 2 #1 picks.  Apparently, other NFL teams do not think so!!
>>
>>     If I were another team, I wouldn't even bother  trying to get Jerry
>>Rice simply because I know San Francisco isn't going to let him go.  Why
>>waste time on a  fruitless endeavor?   Anyway, the 49ers have  some good
>>quarterbacks so they need great receivers like Rice.
> 
> I dunno.  Why not offer Rice a huge salary, but just big enough that
> you know Eddie D. will match it?  Jerry will make more money, making him
> happy, you don't lose anything and Eddie wallet is thinned a little.
> Afterall, if you have any def. players on plan B, chances are Eddie
> is trying to sign them out from under you.  Do onto others!

First off this is unethical s hell but that would only hold off a ew clubs,
secondly Who wants Eddie to mke a fool out of them?  You know he will meet
ny price so you bid and look like a tight-wad when he burns you.
> 
> I've never understood why other clubs keep a "don't screw with SF"
> mentality.  Seems like Al Davis is the only owner in the NFL that
> isn't terrified of Eddie D.  Maybe this has something to do with 
> that Oakland/L.A. thing?
> 
Al Dvis will screw with anybody, he bucks the system all the time.
But i don't think it is so much "terrified" s it is tht they respectb him
enough to know that he will not allow prime time guys like rice to go.

> 
>>     If the 49ers let Rice go, then they've truly lost all their marbles
>>(I still can't believe they let Ronnie Lott go).
>>
They at least had an excuse with Lott in that he was old.

>>Milton W. Kuo
>>milton@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

Brian Mulholland
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: blokhead@leland.Stanford.EDU (Darren Pakying Lum)
Subject: Cowboys
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 18:20:34 GMT


Its been mighty quiet out there on the Cowboys front!  
Any news, draft predictions, opinions out there?
From: hung@memory.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Hung K.M. Nguyen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Hill, Jones signing with Atlanta
Date: 7 Apr 1992 18:04:43 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: Division of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine

In article <1992Apr4.124608.2792@wvnvms.wvnet.edu> un040251@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:
>On Houston's side this leaves them with Jeffires, Duncan, Givins, Johnson
>starting.  This leaves them with NO injury replacements.  The R+S lives on

The starting four will be Haywood Jeffires, Curtis Duncan, Ernest
Givins, and Leonard Harris. Alex Johnson and whoever else they have
gotten/will get in the draft are backups.

-- 
Hung Nguyen					hung@bcm.tmc.edu
Neuroscience,					hung%bcm.tmc.edu@CUNYVM.BITNET
Baylor College of Medicine			hung%bcm.tmc.edu@PSUVAX1.BITNET
Houston, TX 77030				{uunet,shell,rice}!bcm!hung
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: easchwei@eos.ncsu.edu (ERIC ARNOLD SCHWEITZ)
Subject: Re: It is Over....
Organization: NCSU Project Eos
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:32:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.130826.2866@wvnvms.wvnet.edu> un040276@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:
>I like that forty-niners like any one else, but I think personally it is
>time for Joe to Hang up the shoes, throw in the towel before he really 
>gets hurt seriously, when a player has had as many injuries as Joe has 
>had, I would have quit a long time ago.  He has had a great career, but 
>all good things must come to an end.......

I agree, but the only one that counts is Ol' Joe himself.  I have
a feeling that Joe isn't going to retire until he gets hurt really
bad and/or starts to play horribly.  Not all great athletes can
decide when enough is enough and when it is time to exit.  It'll be
ashame to watch a great athlete like Joe slowly fade away, but it seems
that that is exactly what Joe is headed for.

Speaking of legends that can't leave the gridiron, I heard Tony Dorsett
was attempting to comeback.  This seems truly sad.  Is he that broke
or what?
From: vito@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (daniel.b.vought)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NFC Rushing leaders projected....
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:49:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr17.161544.7033@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff) writes:
>un040251@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:
>
>>Anderson I think will not return to former form.  He played rotten last year,
>>but I never thought the world of him in the first place, and I thunk he just
>>thrived off the formerly tough Bear OL.  There was a rookie who played in
>>the playoff game, that looked F***ing sharp!  Bears fans? His name?
>
>You're thinking of Darren Lewis.  I too think he'll be a part of the 
>Bear's rushing attack next year, but I expect Neal Anderson to return
>to form.  Remember, not only did Anderson miss a bit of time with a
>hamstring injury, but while he was playing, he was without the starting
>fullback (Muster) to block for him.
>
>----      
>Chris Riff
>riff@dartmouth.edu

     You mean Col. Muster in the endzone with a football. 
  
  Daniel V                                                     GO JETS!
From: alberter@untadh.enet.dec.com (Ludwig Alberter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: CRAP FOOTBALL
Date: 6 Apr 92 06:54:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: rdg.1992Apr6.065445.16761
Reply-To: alberter@untadh.enet.dec.com (Ludwig Alberter)
Organization: Digital Equipment GmbH, Muenchen


In article <1992Apr3.163629.2787@wvnvms.wvnet.edu>, un040251@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:
>
>A game in which you cannot use your hands is a real man's game?
>Men use their hands.
>Brian Mulholland
>


      If men use their hands, they definitely need women... ;););)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: jcoryell@nwu.edu (John Coryell.)
Subject: Re: NFL Expansion News!!! TSN picks St.Louis and Charlotte!
Organization: MI
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:59:35 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.151158.28810@unx.sas.com> sasbrb@rolypoly.unx.sas.com (Brendan Bailey) writes:
>
>   Well, the March 23rd edition of The Sporting News contained a lengthy
>article on the cities vying for the two NFL expansion to be awarded in the
>fall.  The article "Eyes on the Prize" says "As the NFL expansion picture
>comes into focus, St. Louis and the Carolinas look like the winners".
>   NFL writer Chris Mortensen says the selection of St. Louis and Charlotte
>makes sense in that it satisfies the "something-old, something-new" theory
>for NFL expansion favored by Commissioner Taglibue.  Just how much does
>Mortensen know?  About six months ago, he picked St. Louis and Baltimore
>even though everyone knew about the one old-city/one new-city theory.  And
>the previous week, he said to watch out for the surging Sacramento group.
>Yeah, right.  Anyone who has been following NFL expansion at all would have
>picked St. Louis and Charlotte as far back as 1989.

Not at all.  Through the first half of 1990, Memphis and Charlotte were
(justifiably) neck-and-neck; before that, Memphis I thought actually had
the edge.  St. Louis has been virtually assured a franchise, and I agree
that Charlotte is currently in a comfortable second.

>    TSN ranks the top six candidates, in order, for hte two NFL expansion
>franchises: 1) St. Louis, 2) Charlotte, 3) Memphis, 4) Baltimore,
>5) Jacksonville, and (surprisingly) 6) San Antonio.  This ranking was evidently
>made before San Antonio didn't make the short list in March.
>    Check out the article.  It's pretty good!
>
>    Stay tuned as several others are cut from the short list during the
>May 19-20 NFL meetings.  Say Bye-bye to the "surging Sacramento group". :-)
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Brendan Bailey                         "The NFL is on record saying that if 
>SAS Institute, Inc - QA/Graph           it adds 150 expansion teams or hell 
>sasbrb@unx.sas.com                      freezes over -- whichever comes      
>Go Heels! Go Hornets!                   first -- Raleigh will be awarded a
           ^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>The NFL in Charlotte! Target: 1994!!!   franchise." - The Charlotte Observer
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Yes, it would be nice if they could get it together and make a run in
these last nine games; then, they could have the satisfaction of being
roadkill for the Bulls (yes, yes, I know, wrong newsgroup).

John Coryell. 
From: garyr@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Gary Rosen)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:35:44 GMT
Subject: Re: Joe Montana's ready......
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

>(Emilio Rivera) /  5:32 am  Apr 15, 1992 /
>more than he ever has, then you can say he is ready.   Joe might have
>a flashback to the playoff game against Nu York where he was banged up 
>a bit.  I am ready to see the niners make a comeback .....NOT !!  :)

In the four seasons following that playoff game that the anti-'9er
whiners still love to bring up, the Montana-led 'Niners had the best
regular-season record three times and won the Super Bowl twice.
Just thought I'd remind you. :^)

- Gary Rosen
From: un040251@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 3rd time lucky for Bills?
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:07:33 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing


>>> [stuff deleted]
>>>>>  Kelso is a "brains" player, not an assassin.  

>>If Kelso's not an assassin...Ok let me put it this way.  If you weren't going
>>to be looking to put a notch on your belt for homocide why would you wear that
>>double helmet thing of his??? Hmmmm? Kelso throws his entire body into hits,
>>but never wraps the player up.  This means half the time the player goes down
>>saying "what was the license # of thet truck?" and the other half he keeps his
>>balance and can jog into the endzone cus Kelso is supposed to be the last
>>resort.
> 
> This is b.s.  Have you ever seen a Bills' game?  He doesn't wear his double
> helmet so as to injure people.  He wears it to prevent his own injury.

Yeah so he can hit harder without being injured...I never said he was out
to injure...hit hard and out to injure are different.  Reggie White loves
to hit hard but when he injures a player he is the first one to beg for a 
medical team.  I have never been more impressed by a plyer than by when
Reggie injured Stan Humphries jumped up, and yelled to both sidelines
to bring on the Med. squad.  Lott is the same way.  I never said Kelso was
an Andre Waters.  Oh and yes...I watched several Bills Games this year...
I had to, there were several Bills fns in our Dorm TV lounge and i do not have
my own TV.

> Is this some type of delusion of an illusion of a fantasy that the Skins
> fans are trying to spread?

Where did you come to this conclusion?  My are you hostile!

>  Kelso misses people because they outrun him,
> not because he doesn't know how to tackle! 

Kelso supporting the run does this alot...I am not talking bout WRs, though
I would assume it to apply there to.  He is like many safeties who see
a RB being channeled to him by the LB corpsand thinks "bullseye!", lowers
the shoulder and rams, but never wraps his arms.  sometimes he wraps but not
as poften as a GOOD FS should do!

> I think you are thinking
> about Alvin Walton.  You've described ALVIN perfectly!

Walton Sux at anything BUT tackling.  That is all he can do! he cannot cover
to save his moyther's life!

>  Kelso is the best
> FS in football,

And he accuses me of propoganda???

> but he sure as he11 isn't a Jack Tatum!  Let's get real!
> 
right after he says Kelso is the best FS in the NFL he tells ME to get real???


Brian Mulholland
From: curt@oce.orst.edu (Curt Vandetta)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Jimmie Johnson to Detroit
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:58:22 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, College of Oceanography

In article <odu6Fbu00awMMJ62Fd@andrew.cmu.edu> et00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Erich William Trowbridge) writes:
>all detroit fans- 
>
>	You picked up one of the greatest pass catching TE's the world will
>ever see. Jimmie was hardly ever used in Washington's offensive scheme,
>but watch him to put up some great numbers for detroit. That boy catches
>bbs in the dark.
>
>	I don't know what sort of signing bonus he got, but it wasn't enough.

      Detroit picked up a TE?  Does this mean they are planning on 
      giving up the R&S in the red zone?  I heard talk last year that
      they were thinking of going with a TE in the red zone.  Anyone
      know for sure?

      Curt
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: ded@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (nod sivad)
Subject: Re: Why the Jets?
Reply-To: ded@aplcen (nod sivad)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 17:54:36 GMT

>Browning Nagle - shows glimmers of hope, *possible* star, if not decent QB
>
>What do impartial fans think?
>

I saw Nagle in a scrimmage against the Redskins last summer.  He looked 
horrible.  But he was a rookie then.  Perhaps he has greatly improved
in a year.

					me
From: ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 49'ers will be champions again!!!
Date: 17 Apr 92 08:18:32 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Apr16.173344.2429@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> c186az@volga.Berkeley.EDU (William Hackett) writes:
>In article <sjialINN3mo@agate.berkeley.edu> rege@bongo.Berkeley.EDU (Ashutosh G. Rege) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr16.063022.16099@ncsu.edu> delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu 
>>(DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE) writes:
>>>
>>>
>
>>
>>>2. The Falcons are overall better than the 49ers.
>>
>>  Hmmm. Lets see :
>>
>
>>  WR/TE : Rison is a star but Rice is Rice and with Taylor,Sherrard, 
>>       and Jones this is a non-contest.
>>  Overall, offensively the Niners ranked 3rd and the Falcons 8th
>>  and things can only get better this year for the Niners.
>I don't know about this. Rice is old Rison is young and putting up the
>numbers then there is Drew Hill of the Former Fab Five.  Tony 
>Warp Speed Jones another Member.. Plus they had a good deep threat from
>last year.

Hold it... "Rice is old"??  the guy is 28 going on 29 for Pete's sake! He's 
in his prime as an athlete and a man. Let's not get carried away here. Rison 
has yet to rise to Rice's level and there is nobody on the Falcon roster 
with John Taylor's talent, except Deion... 

>
>I say they will keep on winning baby.  Saints need offense.. Falcons have
>the weapons if they can swing Herschel Walker some how... See Run and Shoot
>is a little different than other offensenses you don't need a great OL
>
>and when you have great DBs you don't need a great DL or LBs.  Just send.
>7 or 8 in every play and say beat my 3 or 4 all stars or pay the price
>with a HIT.  TO LEGIT TO QUIT baby!!! I love Glanville... 
>
>HOUSE OF PAIN  part II.  Welcome to the Fast track...

This is actually pretty interesting but I still have to believe that 
the 49ers will be the better team this year but to people who somehow 
want to maintain that they were better than the Falcons last year need 
to get a clue. Didn't the Falcons beat them twice?  No on second thought 
I guess they split... Anyway, just because the Niners have more name players
is no reason to consider them better than the Falcons... Hammerz Boyz have `
a lot of young talent on that team. You may not know them now but I've a
feeling many of them will become famous in the next five years. 


-- 
Ronnie
-------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not cynical... I just don't believe in anything....
From: mark.savey@cccbbs.UUCP (Mark Savey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: NFL SCHEDULES
Date: 6 Apr 92 01:42:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: cccbbs.1542.47.uupcb
Reply-To: mark.savey@cccbbs.UUCP (Mark Savey)
Organization: Cincinnati Computer Connection BBS - Cincinnati, OH - 513-752-8248

Can someone please post a message to let everyone know that the 1992
NFL schedules are out, as soon as you see them listed in the paper???

I'm in Cincinnati area, and our Sports page sucks...I'm not holding my
breath that they will waste precious space by listing the 1992 schedule!

Thanks in advance...

Take care,

Mark E. Savey
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From: bop@hpcuhc.cup.hp.com (Arnold Gray)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:56:40 GMT
Subject: Re: Waymer to Raiders
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

/ hpcuhc:rec.sport.football.pro / correa@vax.sonoma.edu /  1:17 pm  Apr  7, 1992
 /
> >Dave Waymer     db      SF
>
>
> Does anybody on SF or a Niner die hard know how good Waymer is and
> how does this effect the Niner Secondary?
>
>
> Silver & Black
> ----------

 A "Niner die hard"??? Is their such an animal?  I have lived in the bay
 area for most of my 33 years, and I can name on one hand the number of
 "die hards" (ha-ha) I have met.  These poor excuse for fans would rather
 go up to Napa for some wine tasting on Sundays.  The more adventurous
 ones go to the British Bankers Club and try to taste something else, but
 that's another story.
  Anyway, Dave Waymer is a db originally from the Cresent City (at least
 that's where he played ball for most of his career).  SF picked him up
 the year after their last SB appearance.  He has been valuable to them,
 especially in the wake of several critical injuries and retirements
 to their db corps.  His high pitched Tyson/Payton-like voice was almost
 as entertaining as watching the Raiders keeping the girly-niner offense out
 of the endzone the last two times (regular season) they have played (yes,
 the Raiders won both games). As for his playing ability, he is a bit long
 of tooth, but he proved to be one of the few brite spots in an otherwise 
 dismal record of acquisitions by the 49ers during the Siefert reign.  Not
 that I give a rats ass about the "finesse" team in yellow pants from San
 Francisco with a receiver nicknamed "Fifi" (can you imagine someone named
 Fifi playing for Mike Ditka?), but they were already light in db's.  Seifert
 hasn't proven that he has enough savvy to start unloading people like 
 Waymer.  Any "fans" out there have an insight as to what they will do?
 NOTE: You 49er fans that don't know who Monte Clark or Dick Nolan is need 
 not respond.  I have an aversion to fair weather, band wagon jumping weenies
 that go on and on about a team that had a glitch for a few years, but is 
 otherwise headed toward the mediocrity that they wallowed in for most of
 of their underwhelming history.


 --bop

 (Silver and Black ain't wack)
From: mocnik@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: AFC East Plan B signees
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:21:10 EST


For all you interested people: (Tomorrow's post AFC WEST)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                   AFC EAST
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                            ---------------------- 
                               Buffalo Bills
                            ---------------------- 

Signed (6)         		
---------------------------------
OL Brian Baldinger (Indianapolis)
LB Darrick Brownlow (Dallas)
K  Steve Christie (Tampa Bay)
LB Eric Fairs (Houston)
TE Ed Thomas (Tampa Bay)
NT Chris Williams (Phoenix)


                            ---------------------- 
                             Indianapolis Colts
                            ---------------------- 

Signed (5)         		
---------------------------------
WR Reggie Langhorne (Cleveland)
C  Trevor Matich (NY Jets)
OG Ron Solt (Philadelphia)
QB Tom Tupa (Phoenix)
LB Carl Zander (Cincinnati)

                            ---------------------- 
                               Miami Dolphins
                            ---------------------- 

Signed (6)         		
--------------------------------
CB Bruce Alexander (Detroit)
WR Robert Clark (Detroit)
DE Tom Downing (NY Giants)
LB Brian Jones (Indianapolis)
NY Gerald Nichols (Tampa Bay)
FB James Saxon (Kansas City)


                            ---------------------- 
                               New York Jets
                            ---------------------- 

Signed (8)         		
--------------------------------
TE Pat Beach (Indianapolis)
WR Rob Carpenter (New England)
RB Pat Chaffey (Atlanta)
S  Joe Fishback (Atlanta)
DE Donnie Gardner (Miami)
NT Roy Hart (LA Raiders)
K  Jason Staurovsky (New England)
DB Marcus Turner (Phoenix)

                            ---------------------- 
                               New England
                            ---------------------- 

Signed (5)
--------------------------------- 
OL Scott Bowles (San Francisco)
WR Alex Johnson (Houston) 
LB Rob McGovern (Pittsburgh)
S  Randy Robbins (Denver)
OG Larry Williams (New Orleans)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

NFL Draft to be held April 26th, draft previews will be posted Next WEEK!!!!!!
From: emilio@bnr.ca (Emilio Rivera)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Joe Montana's ready......
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:32:46 GMT

Joe may look good in practice, but its a new ball game when you
have a defensive team chomping at the bit :) , ready !! , for some
some payback.   Lets see how Joe handles the pain of being on his back
more than he ever has, then you can say he is ready.   Joe might have
a flashback to the playoff game against Nu York where he was banged up 
a bit.  I am ready to see the niners make a comeback .....NOT !!  :)


 

E.R.