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From: ithron@athena.mit.edu (Arthur Lue)
Subject: Who deceiving whom?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:31:05 GMT


Just a little comment about the trilogy...

Isn't it odd that the only ones who intentionally deceived Luke were Ben and
Yoda...supposedly the virtual embodiment of goodness.  Moreover, they did so
with one purpose in mind...that being the advancement of their political agenda
to overthrow the Imperial government.  Well, actually, Yoda just didn't say who
Vader was...clearly he wasn't about to tell Luke his true identity.  You would
think that it would have affected Luke's motivations just a tad.  It seems a
LITTLE deceptive on Yoda's part.

Makes you think about Jedi.




And sacrifice my friends?
If you honor what they fight for...yes.

He was our only hope.
Naw, we'll just get his sister to do it.
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From: jfol@carina.unm.edu (joshua l follicks-shields)
Subject: Re: Speeder Bikes
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 01:17:26 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Aug11.132915.531@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_coolidgeas@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>
>Here's the problem I have with speeder bikes:  How come at such speeds and the
>fact there were trees everywhere there weren't more accidents.  It would
>require better than average reflexes (mucho high Nintendo score) just to ride
>the darn things--and the average forest Stormtroopers didn't look too talented.  
>
>"Jedis don't wait twenty years for a sequel."--Bloom County

   They probably only road those bikes that fast during
combat. Normally they would go much, much slower. Remember
Luke and Leia were chasing them and forcing them to fly faster, and
as I remember, when they flew fast, there were many accidents.

-- 
Old Jedi Master: Ahh Joshua, he's more machine now than man, twisted and evil.

                         New Imperial Forces Motto:
                       Outnumbered, But Not Outfought!
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From: barnes_m@skipper.vlsiphx (Michael Barnes)
Subject: Re: Vader's motivation at Bespin
Reply-To: barnes_m@skipper.vlsiphx
Organization: VLSI Technology, Inc.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 21:05:04 GMT

In article 1671@leland.Stanford.EDU, mohr@leland.Stanford.EDU (Paul William Mohr) writes:
>I watched ESB just a few days ago and I was wondering something.  When
>they're about to freeze Han in carbonite, Chewie starts throwing stormtroopers
>all over the place.  Boba Fett raises his blaster as if to fry him but 
>Vader stops him.  Any opinions as to why?  (Besides the fact that they want to
>keep Chewie alive for the rest of the trilogy.)

How about this one?

Vader captured Han, Chewie, and Leia and tortured them to create emotional conflict
that Luke sensed through the force.  Until Luke showed up, it seems to me that Chewie throwing a fit is the type of reaction Vader was seeking from his prisoners so that Luke would come to Bespin and rescue them.

Or,

Vader had his own plans for Leia and Chewie and didn't want Boba Fett to interfere with them.  They might have wanted them to use in turning Luke to the Dark side.  Killing them in front of Luke might make him lose himself to hate.

Just a thought ....
From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: What I would like to see
Date: 15 Aug 92 02:37:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Aug14.193742.661
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

I don't know about you folks out there, but I would sure like to see the
STAR WARS Comics put to animation, like they did in 78 (?) special show..


Speaking of that STAR WARS Special Show, does anyone have that on tape they
would be willing to, uh, lend etc., if so, please e-mail....

Dave
Organization: The Pennylvania State University
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 10:21:30 EDT
From: Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: question + ROTJ FLAME
 <goudswaa.714437725@sfu.ca>

In article <goudswaa.714437725@sfu.ca>, goudswaa@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter
Goudswaard) says:
>
>>instead, we get a pathetic giant slug who gets strangled in the most
>>boring fight scene in any movies...capped off with the pathetic death
>>of the best villan this side of darth vader, boba fett!!!
>
>I agree completely with you on this -- choking such a large creature
>would take a helluva lot of strength, a lot more than Leia could
>muster (unless it was her Jedi powers shining through!!!!!)  Just
>try to strangle, say a hippo, with just your weight as leverage.

For an answer to this, we have to look to the novelization, where we are
indeed told that leia felt "something" flowing through her as she choked
Jabba, amplifying her strength...that somwthing being the Force.

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From: bragg@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Aquatic Joe)
Subject: Re: Whatever happened to Hammil?!
Keywords: Insane villains
Organization: The Green Circle of Vengence
Distribution: as far as the eye can see
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 03:27:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.000043.5385@cs.unca.edu> mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) writes:
>But what happened to Mark Hammil!? He was on the Muppets once, but
>what else has he done? Is he directing now or something?
>Retired? Converted to Islam? :)

	Mark Hamil was doing theater stuff during the trilogy and afterward, 
but if any of you have seen the Flash TV series when it was on he played the 
part of the Trickster, one of those insane villian types in two of those 
episode which was releasedn Europe as a movie I believe.
	Hamil can be currently 'heard' on the new Batman anumated series       
starting this fall on Fox.  He'll be the voice of the Joker.
	And James 'the guy who did Darth Vader's voice' Earl Jones was in lots
o' stuff long before the Star Wars series.
	Oh yeah, Hamil also did a couple of flop movies after ANH...Corvette
Summer and the Night the Lights Went out in Georgia, with Kristy McNichol.  Both
are classics and may be seen on the Late Late, Shouldn't you be in Bed by Now
show...
.

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From: joshuali@aludra.usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Matte paintings (Falcon at Cloud City) -- NOT!
Date: 14 Aug 1992 10:04:13 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <9f2l02Ly1di501@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> beh10@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Barry Holsinger) writes:
>
>BTW, does anybody know how complete is the full-size model of the Falcon?
>Seems like ANH only showed the front right (starboard?) section, but
>my eyes may have decieved me there. 

I think that only one side was made for ANH (the side with the entryramp)

For Empire they made the whole thing.

For  Jedi, they made a painting....those bastards!   :)



-- 
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Trilogist Extrodinaire     
joshuali@usc.edu 

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From: hamlet@zeus.tamu.edu (Rosencrantz & Guildinstern are dead!)
Subject: Re: Who's Tougher
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 06:09:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.235726.29951@cco.caltech.edu>, keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes...
>tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein) writes:
> 
> 
>>In a previous article, darkstar@pecan.cns.udel.edu (The Janitor Of Anarchy) says:
> 
>>>
>>>My friend and I were just wondering who would in a fight, Darth Vader
>>>or Boba Fett.  Also, why do you think that Darth/Boba would win?
> 
>>Vader would just "strangle" him and that would be the end of it.
> 
>If takes a bit of concentration to "strangle" someone.  For example, if I
>were running a 100m dash, I don't think that Darth Vader would be able to
>"stangle" me.  Besides, Luke "stangled" some of those Gremorian guard
>pig things, but yet he didn't "strangle" Boba Fett during the skiff fight.
>Also, we didn't see Luke "strangle" Jabba the Hutt (although we did see
>Leia strangle him).
> 
>I think those not weak of mind can resist the Jedi attacks.  I don't think
>the force is really that strong, anyway.  If someone started running away,
>I doubt that even Yoda would be able to use the force to "pull" him back.
> 
>Anyway, isn't Boba Fett a remnant of some group that helped exterminate
>the Jedis?  He seemed to be doing okay aginst Luke (although Luke wasn't
>paying much attention to him).
> 
>I don't know if Boba Fett could kill Vader, but Vader doesn't have any long
>range weapons.  If Vader ever got close enough to hit Boba Fett with his
>lightsaber, Boba Fett could just fire up his jet pack, and fly out of range...
> 
>Anyway, who knows what Boba Fett has up his sleeve.
> 
Vader in less than one round...

	Reasons:
	1.	"The power to destroy an entire planet is 
		insignificant next to the power of the force."

	2.	In RotJ, Luke deflects blaster bolts back to the
		speeder bikes with his light saber.

	3.	Vader abosorbs bolts shot at him by none other
		than Han Solo.

	4.	Vader is not only a Dark Jedi, but close to a
		Dark Jedi master.  (The Emporer and I will
		complete your training...
	
	5.	Fett is not a major character, not a star :).

	
			-Hamlet
From: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Question about Imperial Officers
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:01:46 GMT
Reply-To: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, joshm@crash.cts.com (Josh Mercer) says:

>I've long wondered (well, not LONG, but) what the small metal cylindrical 
>objects that Imperial officers carry in small pockets (it seems) next to
>their rank insignias?  They look like they could be about the size of thick
>felt-tip pens, though colored chrome.  Any ideas?
>
>


While I've been enjoying the speculation, I think that if there was
any thought behind them (aside from, "Hm, I think a chrome rod would
really fill out this costume") they are probably electronic stylus'
of some kind -- the modern equivalent of a ball point pen.  Bureaucrats
have to take lots of records, you know.

As for the thought that they might be comlinks, we've seen one of them
in C3PO's and Luke's hands.  They're only about an inch long, a little
thicker, and white.

----  TJ

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From: avik@icase.edu (Avik Banerjee)
Subject: Re: LET'S CLEAR UP THIS BIGGS THING
Organization: ICASE/NASA Langley
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:05:55 GMT









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From: cass8806@elan.glassboro.edu (KYLE CASSIDY)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Whatever happened to Hammil?!
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:31:20 GMT
Organization: Glassboro State College, Glassboro, NJ


	pumping gas no doubt.
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From: bailey@emunix.emich.edu (Grand Moff Tarkin)
Subject: Re: Question about Imperial Officers
Keywords: Little metal things
Organization: Detroit Institue of Criminal Arts and Sciences
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:05:07 GMT

In article <-#9mfta@lynx.unm.edu> jfol@carina.unm.edu (joshua l follicks-shields) writes:
>In article <joshm.713633443@crash> joshm@crash.cts.com (Josh Mercer) writes:
>>I've long wondered (well, not LONG, but) what the small metal cylindrical 
>>objects that Imperial officers carry in small pockets (it seems) next to
>>their rank insignias?  They look like they could be about the size of thick
>>felt-tip pens, though colored chrome.  Any ideas?
If my impression from the RPG is correct, I believe they are their security
badges.  The higher ranking officers can go more places, thus they have more
badges.  Or something like that.



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From: joshuali@usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Where are you classic Star Wars?
Date: 20 Aug 1992 14:27:39 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

	Does anyone have any info on the release of Classic Star Wars #1?
I picked up the latest comics releases sheet at my local store and
Classic #2 is supposed to come out in very early Oct. Where's #1?
So help me God it better not have been delayed...

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From: ipc@zoo.bt.co.uk (Ian Coleman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Hiding a Skywalker on Tatooine.
Date: 18 Aug 92 08:26:06 GMT
Reply-To: ipc@zoo.bt.co.uk
Organization: BT Laboratories

In article 7209@uvm.edu, cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise) writes:
>
>	Please go watch an apparently little known movie called _Return
>Of the Jedi_.  Among other things, it explains that Owen is BEN'S brother.

Agreed. Known. Accepted.

Does it affect my argument? Not one Iota. I hardly even mentioned Owen.

The point I was making (and was so obviously missed) was that Owen and
Beru where *known* to Vader (Anakin, call him what you will!) The fact that
Ben is related to Owen doesn't affect this. 

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From: darkstar@pecan.cns.udel.edu (The Janitor Of Anarchy)
Subject: Re: Bubba Fett
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Summary: Other Fetts
Keywords: loves money, loves women, loves kids, loves starwars, etc...
Organization: The Green Circle Of Vengence
Distribution: galaxy
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:50:17 GMT

In article <17AUG92.22264587@meena.cc.uregina.ca> kesten@meena.cc.uregina.ca writes:
>I also think that "Bubba" will return.. i read a comic describing his <brief>
>past... i states that he , with 4 others in much the same body armor, lead a group
>of warriors against a slaver organization.  He, being the leader made a secret pact
>with the slavers and wound up being a bounty hunter.  As there are 3 others
>with the same armor <2 are accounted for in the comic> that leaves one
>that could be doubling with Fett.

Well, if you're talking about the Marvel Comics story that takes place
in issues 68 and 69, you've got a few things wrong.  The background is 
right, but there were only three Mandalorians.  According to the story
they were Boba Fett, Fenn Sysha, and Tobi Dala.  Now at the end of 69,
Dala is killed.  So that leaves two not three.  Now, if you include
things from the RPG, then you can also count Jodo Kast, but he's just
a wannabe.  

Now here's the way I look at Fett's death.  Fett was the best, but he 
didn't die because of any lack of skill on his part, nor was he
outclassed; luck just wasn't going his way that day.  Granted his dying
was a terrible thing, but if you watch the movie, you realize that the
reason he died is because Han got damn lucky, not because he was made to
wimp out or anything like that...

And hey, I look at it like this, in DE he's back.  Unfortunately, he 
seems to be a little near-sighted as far as gaining revenge against
Solo.  But then again if you were the best, and someone's blind luck
nearly offed you, I guess you'd be holding a grudge too....


	--Jerry



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From: tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Robert Oliver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: SW VS. Dune
Date: 15 Aug 92 04:47:30 GMT
Organization: Ailanthus Project

mjs49101@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Martin ) writes:

> tsmaster@media.mit.edu (David LeCompte) writes:
> 
> >In article <cPZePB8w165w@hogbbs.scol.pa.us> crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Travis
> >>It would never work.  AT-ATs would come out and stomp the crud out of the 
> >>sand worms. :-)
> 
> >No way. Those worms are way big. They'd easily munch the AT-ATs.
> 
> 
> >				-Dave
> 
>   All they'd have to do is hose em down and those worms would be history.
> 
>       

A quote from the Dune novel (from Kynes) "High voltage electrical shock 
applied to each ring segment is the only known way of killing and 
preserving an entire worm," Kynes said. "They can be stunned and 
shattered by explosives, but each ring segment has a life of its own. 
Barring atomics, I know of no explosive powerful enough to destro a 
large worm entirely. They're incredibly tough." Some sandwoms have been 
spotted at lengths up to 400 meters. The AT-AT doesn't stand a chance in 
hell up against a 400 meter long sandworm engulfing it from below! - Rob

..........
Robert Oliver, tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com
via Ailanthus Project +1 207-989-6562 - Brewer, Maine.
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From: sl6wv@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Vader's motivation at Bespin
Date: 18 Aug 92 09:02:43 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Aug16.063831.17097@rigel.econ.uga.edu>, jordan@castor.cs.uga.edu (Chuck Jordan) writes:
> 
> Also, I'm probably wrong on this, but didn't George Lucas himself write the
> first "novelization," Star Wars?  His name was all over the cover and the
> few paragraphs I read were so dry I assumed that it wasn't written by a
> professional writer...
> 
> Chuck
> 
> -- 
>                   Chuck Jordan | jordan@castor.cs.uga.edu
	I think this should be added to the FAQ as well.

	Yes, George Lucas' name was on the cover, and was marketed as though it
was written by him, but the book was actually written by Alan Dean Foster, who
was acting as a ghostwriter, just as many people do with they write their "auto
biographies" but have somebody else actually do the work.  This is actually
fairly common in the publishing industry.  Lucas did write, as far as I can
find out, the original screenplay, and it is apparent that the book was at
least mostly derived from this script, especially when considering the
differences in the names of the squadrons as mentioned in the book and compared
to what they were called in the movie itself.

		Rob "Woodchip" Horning
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From: goudswaa@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter Goudswaard)
Subject: Re: Industrial Light & Magic .....
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:57:34 GMT

joshuali@aludra.usc.edu (Joshua Ling) writes:

>In article <1992Aug12.125649.11480@gserv1.dl.ac.uk> gzc@gserv1.dl.ac.uk writes:
>>Keywords: 
>>
>>Can anyone help me I am after information on any (ILM) Industrial Light & Magic
>>activity or goings on. I am particularly interested in computer generated special
>>effects such as those used in TERMINATOR II and the Abyss. I have read the book by
>>Thomas G Smith...."ILM The Art Of Special Effects" (which is a must if you do not have
>>it) and would like to find out more !!!!!!

>Try looking in CINEFEX magazine. They usually cover films done by ILM.
>They devoted a whole issue to the Abyss and a whole issue to T2 also.

>There are plans for a second volume of the ART OF SPECIAL EFFECTS either
>late this year or early next year which will cover the ILM days from '86
>on up.  I'm not sure who will author it though.


>-- 
>Josh Ling   
>Trilogist Extrodinaire     
>joshuali@usc.edu 

Also, you could take a peek in comp.multimedia (I think that's what it
is) -- there was a few posts in there a few months back about ILM,
and a number of folks who seemed to know all about that and other
companies like it.  Or perhaps you could post a request for info there,
if you haven't already.


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From: 751kaiser@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Capital ships
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:21:05 GMT
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Aug14.124013.4955@gw.wmich.edu>, 751kaiser@gw.wmich.edu writes:
> say
> 
> does anyone know of where i can get a hold of the other capital ships
> from StarWars besides the StarDestroyer?
> 
> like the frigates, the SuperStarDestroyer, etc....
> 
> matthew						galileo

the plastic models that is................
From: ipc@zoo.bt.co.uk (Ian Coleman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Hiding a Skywalker on Tatooine.
Date: 17 Aug 92 08:08:12 GMT
Reply-To: ipc@zoo.bt.co.uk
Organization: BT Laboratories

Quote:

AUNT BERU: Luke's just not a farmer, Owen. He has too much of his
father in him.

OWEN: That's what I'm afraid of.

Point:
Beru Knew Lukes father. (I think she was his sister)

Quote

LUKE: No, my father didn't fight in the wars. He was a navigator on a
spice freighter.

BEN: That's what your uncle told you. He didn't hold with your
father's ideals. Thought he should have stayed here and not gotten
involved.                                      ^^^^

Point:
Unless Ben is lying yet again, Anakin Skywalker CAME FROM TATOOINE.
Hiding Luke there would have been a prettu dumb idea, but for the fact
no one was looking for him. What was hidden from Vader was the fact that
his wife had had twins. Provided he wasn't looking, he wouldn't find them.
Meantime, Luke is taken away from the mainstream to allow him to grow up
unnoticed.

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