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From: mikey@db.erau.edu (Mike P. Simon)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Kill 'em All CD question (old wound opener)
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:58:03 GMT
Organization: Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, Daytona Beach, FL USA
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vcsc458@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Roy) writes:

>In article <1dnep7INN1s8@nu.db.erau.edu> mikey@db.erau.edu (Mike P. Simon) writes:
>>Well... I've got a boxed set called "The Good, The Bad, and The Live", and it's
>>got both those tunes on it... Older live versions, too.  It's a box of 6 12"
>>45 speed vinyls.  As long as I'm on the subject, anybody out there know
>>exactly how rare and/or valuable this boxed set is?  I picked it up off a guy
>>that was stiffed for cash for 25 bucks...

>I heard about this set but could never find it.  My guess is that it's
>very rare but I'm not sure how valuable it is.  Could you tell us what's
>on it?

Lessee here... Gotta try and remember now, the set itself is safely stored
away at home, all I have with me at school is a cassette copy that I made of
it, and I didn't write down everything that's on it... But I'll try to
remember what i can..

	- Jump in the Fire (doesn't sound live)
	- Seek & Destroy (live)
	- Creeping Death (live)
	- One (2 versions, one live)
	- Breadfan (live - GREAT song!)
	- Last Caress (live)
	- Harvester of Sorrow (2 versions, both live)

I wish I could remember more of them, and if I was in my apartment, I'd
throw on the tape to jog my memory, but that's all that comes to mind right
now...

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From: kq@theswamp.dc (Bocephus)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Another Wherever I May Roam cd-single
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:20:18 GMT
Reply-To: kq@theswamp.dc
Organization: satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas

What label is that single on and what's the catalog
number? Enquiring minds want to know.

Slick Willie blowing his taxaphone

In article 2119@eagle.ukc.ac.uk, idc@ukc.ac.uk (I.D.Catchpole) writes:
>
>Hey guys I've just found yet another cd-single release of 
>Wherever I May Roam.  It is a limited edition CD Digipack
>featuring Exclusive Live Pictures and European Tour Dates
>(according to the Kerrang! advertisement).
>
>Needless to say I picked it up, I also have the first release
>with the Wherever I May Roam demo.  Anyways this cd-single
>contains: 
>
>     (1) Wherever I May Roam      from the album "Metallica"
>
>     (2) Last Caress/Am I Evil?/Battery (live)
>
>         Recorded live September 28, 1991 at Tushino Airfield, Moscow, Russia
>         by Fleetwood Mobiles.  
>
>         I found the following notes quite interesting (concerning the 
>         second track):
>  
>         (i) Original version no longer available on the $5.98 EP
>             Garage Days Re-Revisited.  Originally recorded by the 
>             Misfits in 1978.
>
>         (ii) Original version no longer available on Creeping Death;
>              originally recorded by DiamondHead in 1980
>
>         (iii) Orginal version available on Master Of Puppets
>
>I found the no longer available bits quite interesting....may be 
>they give some insight into the sudden disappearence of 
>Garage Days Re-Revisted....which I'd like to get hold of on cd,
>when I get home to the US....passed up an opportunity to get
>it here in the UK (boy do I regret that).
>
>Ian
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From: justice@cs.unca.edu (Chris Justice)
Subject: Re: Sell Out!!
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 19:41:57 GMT


Dear Dissapointed Metallica Fans,

	I wan't to speak to you about the constant attacks upon the music
  of Metallica. Guys, you are gonna have to accept that Metallica grew and 
  changed with the times. Just because you don't care for something doesen't
  mean you have the right to discredit it.
        I bought the 'black' cd and at first I was dissapointed. The songs were
  shorter and the words didn't make sence(I thought they didn't).
 Well I listed and compared it to the past cd's and found out something
 different. Wholy shit, the music changed. They have been around for over
 10 years and you don't want their music to change. 
	If you don't like something don't listen to it. In short, the cd
  was well done just listen and give it time.


					Later,
                                        Justice

P.S. ( By the way Justice is my real name.)

justice@cs.unca.edu

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From: vidaros@dhhalden.no (VIDAR OLAF SOLBERG)
Subject: Re: Re: Who is Ron McGovney?
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:46:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.055856.26296@csus.edu> vcsc458@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu ( ) writes:
>Subject: Re: Who is Ron McGovney?

>>  In the early 80's a guy named Brian Slagel was putting together the 
>[story deleted]
>>
>>    ......if you want to know more let me know....  
>
>Go ahead & post!  I know a lot of this stuff, too, but wouldn't mind
>hearing more.
>
>

I agree!! Stuff like this is the best we can read!! And please, don't be 
afraid of asking questions like this!!

Noone knows everything!! But together we knows _A_LOT_!!!_


VidarOS


	"...We're gonna slow down a little bit... Sorry!... This is a 
	version	of a lovesong. It's called Motorbreath!!"
							JAYMZ
				("Let God sort'em Out" - San Francisco '83)
From: ma_blase@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Fox)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Metallica in Birmingham
Date: 9 Nov 92 10:48:08 GMT
Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Well I saw Metallica on Thursday and it was everything I thought it would be.

Last day of the British leg of the Europe tour though and they sprung a
surprise.  The original lineup for Diamond Head showed up for no reason
at all and both groups proceeded to do a rendition of Am I Evil.  Seeing
both drummers hammering it out on stage simultaneously was most amusing.

Fox
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From: tamrar@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (Tamra Ross)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Please don't post gifs here
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:51:06 GMT
Organization: The Nucleus 16 Lines 403-531-9353 -CNet Amiga-

In article <1992Oct31.080955.21021@csusac.csus.edu>, garyr@athena.ecs.csus.edu
(Robert M. Gary) writes:
>
>       Please don't post gifs here. Some of the carriers have very
>small band width for this group so basicly when you post this some
>people don't get this group when you do.
>
>       Also all the gifs you ` posted here can be found at 
>
>       cs.uwp.edu    /pub/music/lyrics/m/metallica
>
>they may be downloaded in seconds via ftp.  It's MUCH quicker than
>uudecoding a 7 bit convered file.
>
>
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>| but I was already there!  |  be judged yourself.|  our thoughts are  |
>|             -- AC/DC      |        -- Metallica |  misgiven.-Led Zep.|


Only one problem that so many forget about... not all of us have FTP access,
and I think that maybe there are more of us who don't than those that do. 
Personally I don't have FTP access, and I don't know of any way I can get it
from where I am.  Only universities and large companies have a constant link.  

                                        Tamra

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From: bohanl@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Lee Bohan)
Subject: Re: Kill 'em All CD question (old wound opener)
Organization: Aston University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:40:55 GMT

The Good Bad & Live box set on vynil is not worth a great deal. I remember
seeing it on sale here for around #15 new around a year ago. The $25 you
paid was probably a fair price.....

	Lee.

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From: maf10@po.CWRU.Edu (Moses A. Fridman)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Stuff to Buy
Date: 12 Nov 1992 07:58:57 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: maf10@po.CWRU.Edu (Moses A. Fridman)
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Some people have been asking about "Am I Evil?" and "Blitzkrieg" missing
on KEA.  Listen:  I bought a KEA cd not less than half a year ago that 
had a bright red sticker that said "Previously Unavailable Tracks Am I
Evil and Blitzkrieg included!".  That was bullshit, they were not listed
on the cd and the player said 10 tracks.  I think the original with 12
songs is pure luck to find now, probably really rare.  But, I got a cd
pressed in Germany by the European label Vertigo called Creeping Death/
Jump In The Fire, and is the two EP's on one CD.  Songs:

Creeping Death (studio)
Am I Evil? (KEA)
Blitzkrieg (KEA)
Jump In The Fire (KEA)
Seek And Destroy (Live)
Phantom Lord (Live)

The live tracks sound pretty good.

On a similar note, I just picked up a rare version of the Wherever I May
Roam cd single, which has a fold out paper box design with cool pictures
of the band and set.  The bside is Last Caress/Am I Evil/Battery, not
really a medley, just played in quick succession.  The sound is beefy, 
with all bass and drums and the guitars in the background.  I think that
the live stuff from the AJFA tour on the One single sounds better, though
James' singing is definitely more musical on this one.  Goodnight,


                                                    Moses

Oh, I got the EP for $20, and the single for $25.  Those are considered LOW
prices.
 
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From: me
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: GNR/Metallica
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:29:47 GMT
Organization: Nothing, Inc.

>You really can't compare the two, since we agree that Metallica is heavy metal
>and GnR is hard rock.
>
>					-- Crazyman Pan
>
>(I'd rather be playing guitar...)
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Why don't you then?

Cheers, (my two cents for the day)

-Jeff-
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:17:04 EST
From: <TLS129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Sell Out!!
Distribution: na
 <92310.132242TLS129@psuvm.psu.edu> <1992Nov6.042344.12306@cs.tulane.edu>

In article <1992Nov6.042344.12306@cs.tulane.edu>, butterwo@cs.tulane.edu (Blake
Butterworth) says:
>
>In article <92310.132242TLS129@psuvm.psu.edu>, <TLS129@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>
>> Don't forget Harvester of Sorrow.  That one just keeps going, and going, and
>> going (where's the rabbit???)
>>
>    Your fuckin' crazy!  Harvester of Sorrow is one of my favorite songs off
>    of AJFA.  It kicks ass!

A matter of personal opinion, I would say.  I didn't mean to offend anyone who
likes the song.




-Bill

"BURRP...ha, ha, ha...I fucked up...in one place..."  -MetallicA
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:30:10 EST
From: <CAS171@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: MeTallica Videos...
Distribution: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
 <1992Nov4.102726.15595@ousrvr.oulu.fi> <1992Nov4.232229.20463@csus.edu>
 <1992Nov5.012445.23707@news.columbia.edu>

You are definitely a newby. Come on, the only video that they made that really
kicked butt was the video of "One" and they said that was made to make a
statement.  Since then,they have copied Aerosmith (Nothing Else Matters) and
Bon Jovi (Wherevere I MAy Roam and Sad But True ).  What else will Metallica
due to please their newfound sellout friends.  The preps now have accepted
Metallica and theirfore they will never be the same.  Cliff, where are you?
We need the man who said he would die before he made a video.  We need the
band that once had the edge of an old rusted razor blade.  Boy, I think the
song "Sad but True" sums it up, don't you think?
From: vcsc458@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Roy J.)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Kill 'em All CD question (old wound opener)
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:36:46 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University

In article <10963@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk> bcopelan@cs.strath.ac.uk (Barry Copeland TBS92) writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.230114.20094@csus.edu> vcsc458@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Roy) writes:
>>In article <1dnep7INN1s8@nu.db.erau.edu> mikey@db.erau.edu (Mike P. Simon) writes:
>>>Well... I've got a boxed set called "The Good, The Bad, and The Live", and it's
>>I heard about this set but could never find it.  My guess is that it's
>>very rare but I'm not sure how valuable it is.  Could you tell us what's
>>on it?
>
>On "The Good, The Bad, The Live " are:
>
>A poster and five e.p.s namely
>
>1.Jump In The Fire -Jump In The Fire
>                   -Seek and Destroy (Live)
>                   -Phantom Lord (Live)
>
>2.Creeping Death -Creeping Death
>                 -Am I Evil?
>                 -Blitzkieg
>
>3.The $5.98 EP -Helpless
>               -The Small Hours
>               -The Wait
>               -Crash Course In Brain Surgery
>               -Last Caress/Green Hell
>
>4.Harvester Of Sorrow -Harvester Of Sorrow
>                      -Breadfan
>                      -The Prince
>
>5.One(Special live Maxi)-One (Live)
>                        -Breadfan (Live)
>                        -Harvester Of Sorrow (Live)

Thanx for the list.  Does anyone know if this last "One (Special Live
Maxi) ep is available on cd?  (I have all the others on cd.)



>Also, according to a discography I have, KEA only has the two extra songs on the
>Canadian version (There is also a special UK gatefold sleeve kicking about).
>
>Jaymz' moustache
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>- These are the pale deaths, which men must call their lives                  -
>- All this I cannot bear to witness any longer,                               -
>- Cannot the kingdom of starvation take me home. "                            -
                         ^^^^^^^^^^
>-    - Cliff Burton 1962-1986                                                 -
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The word is SALVATION, not STARVATION!!  How dare you desecrate the
words of Cliff Burton!!


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From: jks2x@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jason K. Schechner)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Who is Ron McGovney?
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:33:22 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <29529.3139226957@kiwi.gen.nz> rabbi@kiwi.gen.nz (Rabbi Bajzheet) writes:
>Well?
>
>--
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	Ron McGovney was Metallica's first bassist.  The _original_
line up for Metallica was Lars and James, Dave Mustaine (now of
Megadeth), and Ron.  They saw Cliff Burton play in his band Trauma in
San Francisco and pestered the hell out of him until he agreed to join
their band.  The only condition was that Metallica relocate to S.F.
Many people attribute their being 'found' so soon to this move, I'm
not so sure.  A band as good as Metallica was bound to be discovered.
But they shortly kicked out Dave because he was too heavily into drugs
and booze and picked up Kirk Hammet.  	
	And the rest is history.  If you want more info e-mail me,
I'll be happy to type more in later.

-Jason
-- 
"I sneak in my own house... it's 4 in the morning... I've had too much to 
drink... said I was out with the boys... I sneak in my bedroom... slip 
into bed... I know if I wake her, I'll wake up.... DEAD!"
   							-Dave Mustaine
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From: khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson)
Subject: Re: Sell Out!!
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 00:15:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov2.122736.10896@uoft02.utoledo.edu> chbaumga@jupiter.cs
.utoledo.edu (Chris Baumgartner) writes:
>khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson) writes:
>: 
>: Are we all in agreement that the Metallica of today is a far, FAR cry 
rom
>: why we really liked the back to begin with?
> 
>   No, not really, I still think they're great.
>
>:  
>: If so, what can we do about it?  It's obvious that we are outnumbered 
y
>: people who think Enter Sandman is hard-core metal, The Unforgiven is a
>: great video and a deep song, and Kirk Hammet is an awesome guitar play
r,
>: and if you listen to the Black Album you'll see why...
>
>   I don't know anyone that thinks _Enter_Sandman_ is a hard-core metal
>   song, it's a great tune, but it's not hard-core metal. As for Kirk
>   being awesome, I'd have to agree with you there.
>
>:  
>: Metallica SUCKS!  I can't think of any other way to put it.  They have
>: messed up everyone who put that band where it is today because "...And
>: Justice For All" didn't sell enough.
>
>   Massive Disagreement here.  You haven't listened to the Black Album 
>   enough. It's a great album, a lot less speed-metalish than their othe
s
>   but it's still great, especially played LOUD! (Crank up _Of_Wolf_And_
an_
>   or _The_God_That_Failed or _My_Friend_of_Misery_ they sound great.)
>   As for AJFA not selling enough, correct me if I'm wrong, but that alb
m
>   went AT LEAST PLATINUM, in fact didn't it go like TRIPLE PLATINUM?
>
>:  
>: Would Cliff Burton think Enter Sandman is a great song?  No..  Justice
was
>: the end of Metallica (but a great ending..  Justice rules!)...
>
>  How would you know what Cliff would think?????
>
>:  
>: Anyway, I'm open to suggestions..  I want another instrumental, some 1

>: minutes songs, and Kirk Hammett's wah-wah pedal in bits and pieces on 
he
>: floor...  Jerk.
>:  
>: 
>
> Another instrumental would be cool, but no more 10-minute songs, please

> It's hard to pay attention to them for the whole time.
>
> IMHO
>--
> Chris Baumgartner                              chbaumga@jupiter.cse.uto
edo.edu
>                 Member: League For Programming Freedom
>         Why I'm in Computer Science & Engineering, Reason #5:
>          I thought CSE stood for "College of Sex Education"            



Metallica are really not the same anymore..  And while bands like Rush
progress on each album, Mettallica took a step backwards on this last
one..  
 
None of the songs are about anything concrete.  Dreams, war, America... 
Especially "Don't Tread On Me"...  Isn't this the same band that put out
AJFA?
From: mikey@db.erau.edu (Mike P. Simon)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Kill 'em All CD question (old wound opener)
Date: 9 Nov 1992 23:45:26 -0500
Organization: Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, Daytona Beach, FL USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: nu.db.erau.edu

garyr@athena.ecs.csus.edu (Robert M. Gary) writes:

>>> I know this was a thread a while ago, but I still have yet to find a KEA disc
>>> OR cassette with Am I Evil? and Blitzkrieg.  Has anyone even seen the version
>>> that includes these songs lately?  I've been looking hard 'cause I knew they
>>> were disappearing, but I never found one.  Guess I was too late, so I'll just
>>> keep listening to my old tape.

Well... I've got a boxed set called "The Good, The Bad, and The Live", and it's
got both those tunes on it... Older live versions, too.  It's a box of 6 12"
45 speed vinyls.  As long as I'm on the subject, anybody out there know
exactly how rare and/or valuable this boxed set is?  I picked it up off a guy
that was stiffed for cash for 25 bucks...

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From: zeus@chopin.udel.edu (Michael Scott Price)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Guys, guys, PLEASE!!!
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:52:54 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

Look. It's getting really old really fast hearing about how "sold out" and
"messed up" Metallica is just because they made a couple of videos. Before you
pass judgement on them, try and think WHY they would do this.(#1 - They truly
have sold out.)Most of you are stuck on this reason, and you're not looking
elsewhere. If they HAVE sold out, I really don't think the "old guard" Metallica
fans would be defending them as they do.(#2 - They found a new way to make 
money.) If you won't admit it to yourself now, there's no hope. The music 
industry is just that, an INDUSTRY, and most people go into it to make mega-
denaro. Metallica is no different. Do you really think they care what we think?
As long as we buy their records, they could care less. They're just looking out
for Number 1, themselves. Nothing wrong with that, It's just the way it is.
(#3 - There is a message they want to get across to everyone.) Gee, how logical!
Post your ideas most of the world spends their time, at the T.V.! Come on, it's 
not that hard to see what they're doing, or why they're doin' it.

	Now, for the second time, can we PLEASE kill this thread and use the
space for more constructive conversation? Thank you.




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