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From: z_cartheybr@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Just in case!
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:58:00 GMT
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Hey I just got a job in a music/video store and found out that I can get ALL
the movie titles that Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamill were in.  I can find out
just about anything anyone needs me to (ie.  addresses to video and music
companies).  Does anyone want me to post all of Carrie's and Mark's movie 
credits (so people will stop inquiring on what they've been doing since ROTJ)
or maybe even the address to (aargh!!) Polydor Records or anything at all?
Let me know via e-mail or post!

--Blitz                          ________________________________
                                |If Descartes's phrase, "I think,| 
                                |therefore I am," is true, then  |
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From: jmv@grip.cis.upenn.edu (Jean-Marc Vezien)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Star Wars for Stage... (How Would You Do It?)
Date: 15 Aug 92 21:43:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: GRASP Lab

In article <1992Aug15.194157.11215@mixcom.com>, Ray.Chramega@mixcom.mixcom.com (Ray.Chramega) writes:
> 
>    I've often fantasized about seeing Star Wars adapted for a stage play. I
> have ideas of my own as to what it would look like, but how would someone
> handle bringing the same unique set design, costuming, action etc. into a
> stage production? It probably would never work but it's interesting to think
> about anyway. I'd like to hear your ideas of what Star Wars the stage show
> would look like.
> 

Yeah, I would especially appreciate to see the asteroid pursuit on stage.
And some neat blaster battles, too.
nuff said.


JM.
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From: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Subject: Re: Ignoring Canon and other Silly Mistakes
Reply-To: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 17:05:27 GMT


In a previous article, caer@iear.arts.rpi.edu (Charlie Figura) says:

>Having just reread the whole trilogy (I was bored, ran out of other stuff
>to do... :-) I wonder how long its been since any of you have read it?
>I dont remember what the faq said, but if it did not include the *movie*
>books as canon, well, its not fit for toilet paper.
>

Now now, be nice.  You can't expect an FAQ to be complete for a group
that's less than a year old.

As for rereading it, that's what people like you are for -- authority!
We can't all do it, but you can help us by telling us what's there.

----  TJ

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From: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Subject: Re: Whatever happened to Hammil?!
Reply-To: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 14:51:12 GMT


In a previous article, pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras) says:

>Mark Hamill has done a couple of less than exciting movies (amadaus (sp?)
>but mostly has been doing stage work (i.e. broadway plays, etc) and keeping
>to himself.  He can more than afford to take it easy for that point. He
>also appeared in an episode of the ill-fated (and badly written) FLASH on
>CBS as a mad villian type joker....

I forget who that was in the movie version of Amadeus (it was the
guy from Animal House), but Mark Hammill starred in the BROADWAY
version of that play.  He was very good, from what I understand.

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             TJ Goldstein    tlg4@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu
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----------------   "If you want something done right,  ----------------- 
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From: cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  8823239)
Subject: Re: Whatever happened to Hammil?!
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 01:17:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.141041.721@pro-freedom.cts.com> pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras) writes:
>In <1992Aug17.000043.5385@cs.unca.edu>
>mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) writes:
>
>>Okay, Carrie Fisher has managed to stay in the public's eye
>>with acting and writing. Harrison Ford is the best actor
>>in Hollywood now. The guy who did Vader's voice shows up 
>>everywhere.
>>
>>But what happened to Mark Hammil!? He was on the Muppets once, but
>>what else has he done? Is he directing now or something?
>>Retired? Converted to Islam? :)
>>
>>He was the *star*, argueably, after all. :)
>>
He is also a comic collector and spends a lot of time with his family.
He apparently has quite the collection and has a copy of detective #27
is decent shape. Considering that comic is worth about $75,000, I'd love
to see the rest of his collection.

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From: julie@skatter.usask.ca
Subject: Re: Administrivia
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:59:59 GMT

From article <92226.134626EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>, by Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>:
> In article <1992Aug11.171907.1@hamp.hampshire.edu>, ckeroack@hamp.hampshire.edu
> says:
	
(Much deleted)
>>and in about a week or so I'll tell you guys if there's an overwhelming call
>>to
>>keep this unmoderated or go thru the hassle of getting a moderator and
>>USENETting one into existence.
> 
> Uh...very bad idea.  If you cant keep up with all the posts, thats too bad,
> but for those of us that can, or would like to, at least allow us to.  There's
> no reason you should limit us to what you (or whoever else would moderate)
> thinks is appropriate for display.
> 
	Very true.  To tell you the truth, I'm too busy to keep up with all 
the posts myself, but I certainly don't want someone else censoring them for 
me!


It's not that I like the Empire.  
I hate it, but there's nothing 				Jules
I can do about it right now! 
	- Luke Skywalker.
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From: hamlet@zeus.tamu.edu (Rosencrantz & Guildinstern are dead!)
Subject: Re: Question about Imperial Officers
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:57:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.010146.21384@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein) writes...
> 
>In a previous article, joshm@crash.cts.com (Josh Mercer) says:
> 
>>I've long wondered (well, not LONG, but) what the small metal cylindrical 
>>objects that Imperial officers carry in small pockets (it seems) next to
>>their rank insignias?  They look like they could be about the size of thick
>>felt-tip pens, though colored chrome.  Any ideas?
>>
>>
> 
> 
>While I've been enjoying the speculation, I think that if there was
>any thought behind them (aside from, "Hm, I think a chrome rod would
>really fill out this costume") they are probably electronic stylus'
>of some kind -- the modern equivalent of a ball point pen.  Bureaucrats
>have to take lots of records, you know.
> 
>As for the thought that they might be comlinks, we've seen one of them
>in C3PO's and Luke's hands.  They're only about an inch long, a little
>thicker, and white.
> 

Although I don't necessarily disagree with you, I could be worth noting
that there are several different styles of communications devices, and the 
Imperial officers are in a seperate division in the Stormtroopers(where Luke
and 3PO appear to have gotten their comlinks.)  I will stick by my original
answer, but all in all, they were nothing more than props to make the uniforms
look "cool" or to have the appearance of functionality.   

	-Hamlet

PS On a side note: the RPG mentions there are many different styles of comlinks
	and that's what I'm basing my _opinion_ on.  Not fact, just opinion.

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From: is430a13@umbc5.umbc.edu (is430a13)
Subject: Re: Threepio question
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:12:05 GMT

In article <Bt8nIv.I0r@acsu.buffalo.edu> micbrian@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (MAD MAX - THE ROAD WARRIOR) writes:
>I was watching STAR WARS last night, and I was a little confused by something
>that happened.  Perhaps someone can shed some light...
>
>At the very beginning of the movie, C3PO mentions during the battle that
>there will be no escape for the Princess this time.
>
>However, later in the film, when R2 first plays the hologram of Leia for
>Luke, 3PO says that he doesn't know who Leia is, only that she was a 
>passenger on his last voyage and a person of importance.
>
>This seemed kind of contradictory to me.  He knows the princess at the
>beginning of the film, but not later on?
>
>Thoughts?
>
>Brian


My guess is that 3PO is covering for Princess Leia.. since he doesn't know
Luke all that well at this point he may be withholding some information
from him to protect her. Obviously 3PO didn't suddenly "forget" who she was.
Thats one interpretation anyway. It may have been a simple script continuity
error..


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From: is430a13@umbc5.umbc.edu (is430a13)
Subject: Re: Favorite Star Wars Movie
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:46:01 GMT

>
>>Yes, I favor the Empire to those pitiful rebels.
>>I'm sure that in some alternate universe the Empire destroyed the rebel base
>>in the first movie and live happily ever after.
>>
>>SS

Yes I quite agree... we will take care of Skywalker and his pitiful little
band...

                                      Palpatine

    ;-)


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From: micbrian@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (MAD MAX - THE ROAD WARRIOR)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Whatever happened to Hammil?!
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:11:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug18.011700.25943@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>, cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  8823239) writes...
>In article <1992Aug17.141041.721@pro-freedom.cts.com> pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras) writes:
>>In <1992Aug17.000043.5385@cs.unca.edu>
>>mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) writes:
>>
>>>Okay, Carrie Fisher has managed to stay in the public's eye
>>>with acting and writing. Harrison Ford is the best actor
>>>in Hollywood now. The guy who did Vader's voice shows up 
>>>everywhere.
>>>
>>>But what happened to Mark Hammil!? He was on the Muppets once, but
>>>what else has he done? Is he directing now or something?
>>>Retired? Converted to Islam? :)
>>>
>>>He was the *star*, argueably, after all. :)
>>>
>He is also a comic collector and spends a lot of time with his family.
>He apparently has quite the collection and has a copy of detective #27
>is decent shape. Considering that comic is worth about $75,000, I'd love
>to see the rest of his collection.

He also did theater for a while, and turned up on TV's THE FLASH a time or
two as The Trickster.

Brian
From: orscholz@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Oliver Scholz (Turo - Bacorscholz@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Oliver Scholz (Turo - Bacorscholz@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Oliver Scholz (Turo - Bacorscholz@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Oliver S)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: SW Soundtracks: Join the Crusade!
Date: 11 Aug 92 19:01:00 GMT
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen, Germany
Old-Message-ID: <Bsu25o.76y@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>

gt7219a@prism.gatech.EDU (Christopher Michael Lawyer) writes:

>about getting a complete version, it might just work.  I have one
>thought about tactics though.  If we mention that we are working 
>together, they may just dismiss us as a special interest.  We might
>want to instead write a bunch of individual letters over a relatively
>short period of time giving them the impression that the public at
>large wants this (which they do, but might not be willing to write
>letters about it).  Jus a thought though.  I am willing to write
>a few letters myself, so e-mail me with more details so that we
>can get a concerted effort going (whatever the style).
Well, I don't agree here. First of all, the album has been released for
a couple of years. Even if we didn't mention we're a SIG, they'd still be
suspicious, if many letters came after that many years. They aren't *that*
stupid... And second, most movie soundtrack buyers are movie fans.
Usually people watch a movie, like or dislike it, but usually don't buy the
soundtrack. So buying movie soundtrack almost automatically makes you a
special interest. And that's ok, and I think they know that.
Third, these people have statistics. They know if n people write in,
there are n*m people out there (with m>>n) with the same problem.
And if n*m is large enough, they'll smell money.

So, people, please write in! In this case EVERY VOTE COUNTS! The larger
we get 'n', the larger 'n*m' will be, and it'll greatly improve our chances
of seeing (or hearing) the lost ESB tracks on CD!

Oh, and if you do write in, mention that you'll *buy* the CD if it comes out.
Don't just complain, put $ signs in their eyes!

May the force be with you, always!

-Oliver



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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Subject: DARK EMPIRE #5 IS OUT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:19:28 GMT


-- 
                        Scott Streeter
                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
From: beh10@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Barry Holsinger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Question about Imperial Officers
Keywords: Little metal things
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:35:37 GMT
Reply-To: beh10@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Barry Holsinger)
Distribution: na
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <l8ijsmINN9et@aludra.usc.edu> joshuali@aludra.usc.edu (Joshua Ling) writes:
>In article <joshm.713633443@crash> joshm@crash.cts.com (Josh Mercer) writes:
>>I've long wondered (well, not LONG, but) what the small metal cylindrical 
>>objects that Imperial officers carry in small pockets (it seems) next to
>>their rank insignias?  They look like they could be about the size of thick
>>felt-tip pens, though colored chrome.  Any ideas?
>
>
>
>My friend swears that they're CO2 cartridges.
>

Maybe they're nitrous oxide -- which would explain why the
Imperial commanders are always so gay and flighty. 

  
PS:  :-)


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From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Just who is Owen anyway?
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:39:49 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena

tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein) writes:


>In a previous article, joshuali@usc.edu (Joshua Ling) says:

>>This is a long shot but here it goes...
>>
>>Luke and Leia were hidden from Vader and good 'ole Palpatine right?
>>	-"To protect you both from the Emporer you were hidden from 
>>	your father when you were born..."-OB1
>>
>>Well to hide them from Vader it would be kind of foolish to hide Luke with
>>Anakin's brother right? The novel says that Owen is Ben's brother, we all 
>>know that but maybe Owen is Luke's *MOM'S* brother......?......?

>Um, I don't think so, guys.  Doesn't seem all that much safer than
>hiding him with Anakin's sister.  I mean, that's got to be one of 
>the first places Vader'd look.  You can say that he wouldn't know about
>Kenobi's family, but he's got to know if he has a sister-in-law.

Well, Vader didn't even know that he had any kids until he met Luke.  Why
not "hide" Luke here?

keith
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From: redfive@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Vian Lawson)
Subject: Re: Vader's motivation at Bespin
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 00:47:24 GMT

Just a piece of idle speculation.  OK. everyone thinks Owen may/may not be
Ben's brother, Vader's brother or whatever.  Everyone seems to assume the
connection is through the male line, presumably because there are so few
women in the universe anyways ...

Now, Owen's surmname is Lars.  But who's to say Beru's maiden name wasn't
Kenobi or Skywalker?  Ben could still refer to his brother-by-marriage as
his brother (if indeed he did - it was only in the novelisation, which has
been shown on many occasions to be at variance with the film anyhow) and
Beru's loyalty to Luke and\or Ben could be what prompted her to persuade
Owen to take Luke in ...
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From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Subject: Re: Fett's existance before Empire
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 00:01:53 GMT

This is really, really interesting ... there seems to be more
left out of SW than there was in it!

But -- the Art of ESB has a sketch dated 1979 of a very finished Fett
in the Slave I. 

There are a lot of other sketches of the development of his helmet, too.

Scott
From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Vader's motivation at Bespin
Date: 13 Aug 92 07:39:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Aug13.003958.569
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

I think Vader stopped Boba Fett because he wanted to use the others as a
way to lure Luke to him, and it is kind of hard to instill pain in a dead
body....or at least I would imagine it would be...

Dave
From: kfoss%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Kevin Foss)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Ignoring Canon and other Silly Mistakes
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 21:04:54 EST
Organization: Ailanthus Project

> A few points (if I can remember...)
> Luke is twenty at the time of ANH. (twice the years of the 10 year old
> 'droid that he's working with on the vaporater at the beginning...)
> He's twenty-three at the battle of Hoth. (i.e., 3 years between ANH and
> ESB).
 
An interesting note to make here, is that the storyline blurb on the back
of the ESB paperback novelization (or my version at least: 5th printing, 
May 1980) says that "Now, several months later...", later meaning after 
the destruction of the Death Star.   And then goes on to say "Soon, Luke, 
Han, the princess... were forced to flee.".   Indicating that the time 
period was apparantly signifigantly less than 3 years.   Although, I 
would hestitate to call the 'blurb' canon, it's an interesting 
contradiction of this piece from the text. 
 
Unless of course someone's meaning of 'soon' meant 2 1/2 years or 
something...:)

-Kevin 
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(Posted at 9:10:05 P.M. on Saturday, August 15th 1992)
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..........
Kevin Foss, kfoss%ailanth.uucp@wang.com
via Ailanthus Project +1 207-989-6562 - Brewer, Maine.
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From: tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Robert Oliver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Falcon, X-Wings, etc. sets
Date: 19 Aug 92 04:17:17 GMT
Organization: Ailanthus Project

sl6wv@cc.usu.edu writes:

> In article <SS.92Aug17120153@wpi.WPI.EDU>, ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) wr
> >>>>>> On Sun, 16 Aug 1992 23:55:07 GMT, mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -
> > 
> > mcmahan> In some of the ESB publications, they show a full scale model
> > mcmahan> of the Falcon being built from scratch.
> > 
> > The same full scale model of the Falcon was used in all 3 movies. It
> > was designed to me taken apart in sections, like pieces of a pie, so
> > it could be moved around, and stored easier. You probably saw a
> > picture of them putting the pieces together, not building it from
> > scratch.
> > --
> >                         Scott Streeter
> >                         ss@wpi.wpi.edu
> 	Maybe I'm mistaken, but I seem to recall that the original Falcon was
> accidentally destoryed in between shootings of ANH and TESB.  Either there wa
> a fire at EMI Studios in London or the materials were used for some other mov
> set.  In all, I believe that the Falcon was rebuilt from scratch, but that th
> tried real hard to make sure that didn't happen again for ROTJ.  What would b
> even more interesting is to find out just where that full-sized model of it i
> located at right now.
> 
> 
> 			Rob "Woodchip" Horning

I was reading parts of The Making of Return of the Jedi, and they 
mentioned that the full-size Falcon they were using was built for Empire. 
This would seem to confirm that the original was destroyed or lost. 
According to the book, the full sized model (used in the first scene of 
Jedi that was filmed anda scene that would later be dropped from the 
final cut) was sent to a scrapyard after it was used. Here is the direct 
quote from the book: "So the full-size version, which had defied the 
Empire for so long, would now shortly end up in the scrapyard." Guess 
they just threw the sucker away.

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via Ailanthus Project +1 207-989-6562 - Brewer, Maine.
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