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From: zmatthew@aludra.usc.edu (Zachary Philip Matthews)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,bit.listserv.travel-l,rec.travel.marketplace
Subject: B.A. - L.A. rideshare wanted
Date: 25 Jan 1993 00:54:59 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

I am looking for a rideshare from the bay area to Los Angeles any time in 
the next couple of weeks. Ideal would be a roundtrip with two or three days
in LA before returning to the Bay area. terms negotiable 
Thanks for any serious reply by E-mail only.

Zac
zmatthew@scf.usc.edu
From: jeffrey.burrows@almac.co.uk (Jeffrey Burrows)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Scotland
Date: 26 Jan 93 11:48:00 GMT
Reply-To: jeffrey.burrows@almac.co.uk (Jeffrey Burrows)
Organization: Almac BBS Ltd. +44 (0)324 665371

Ann Babb (HF.ALB@forsythe.stanford.edu) wrote:
>: Best time of year to travel to Scotland?  Interesting things to see
>: near Edinborough and/or Glasgow?  The Highlands?  Thanks!

I hope you're not asking 'when is the weather wonderful in Scotland?'
because, frankly, the only answer I can give is 'mu'. Not that there
isn't good weather here, but that it is very unpredictable. Having said
that, I've had most success either side of )summer) - esp. May and
October; though this may be purely subjective. May has the extra
advantage of the Glasgow Mayfest - a cultural jamboree, second only in
the UK to Edinburgh and with a lot more local input, with a large range
of arts, cultural and community events (Glasgow also holds a rather good
jazz fest in July). September/October have the advantage of autumn
colours painting the glens in calendar colours -  Glen Lyon, Affric,
Orchay, Loch Aweside & dozens of others.

<Interesting things to see> I'm sorry, there isn't the bandwidth ...

Jey

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From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Europe Trip--Sites
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:18:24 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

b5670@vax1.mankato.msus.edu wrote:
> In about three weeks, I will be traveling around in Europe.
> I will be fist visiting France, then other countries such
            ^^^^
> as Switzerland, Spain, Germany, and so on... until I get to
> England.  Please can anyone recommend certain sites to visit
> in these countries.  Thank yall very much!!!

You know, it quite often happens that us regular readers of this group get
kinda exasperated by people posting with really vague queries that show you
haven't bothered even to read the most basic guidebooks before asking us to
provide you with information anyone could get from them in minutes.

But with this kind of interest, you don't need to fear that you've done
anything like that.  In fact, I don't think we've ever had anyone asking
that one before.  But maybe you'd be better off trying another newsgroup?
I believe alt.sex.bondage is specially for this sort of thing.

You might need to know that the nearest equivalent to Crisco in Britain
is a product called "Trex".

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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: jill@super.org (Amelia J. Scott-Piner)
Subject: Re: adventure in latin- and southamerika
Organization: Supercomputing Research Center (Bowie, MD)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:21:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan16.163547.27954@head-cfa.harvard.edu> shaks@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Jonathan Schachter) writes:
>
>In article <1993Jan11.211333.25108@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com>, JEFFS@LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM (Jeff Schaefer) writes:
>> In article <1993Jan10.145726.29382@kth.se>, tordm@vana (Tord G.M. Malmgren) writes:
>> > 
>> > 
>> >  Hi! does anybody out there have any good tips on adventurous travels
>> > in Latin- and South America? For example some nice places with waterfalls
>> > in the jungle which would require going by feet through jungle or by horse..
>> > Thankful for any kind of info!
>> > 
Lots of stuff deleted for brevity....
>
>   I haven't been to those places, but I just returned from my second trip
>to the Altiplano, the high plane of the Andes in southamerica.  This time
>I was in Lauca National Park, in the extreme northeast corner of Chile.
>Last time I was hiking around La Paz, Bolivia.  Both are really spectacular
>places, with the base altitude around 4000 m, and the mountains over 6000 m.
>To me, it's like nothing else in the world.
>
>jon

I have to agree.  I haven't seen a more breath-taking spot on the face of the
planet than Lauca National Park.  A dead snow-topped volcano, two shallow 
fresh water lacks, tundra lichen, and an abundance of alpaca, chinchilla, 
flamingos, etc.  The scenery is spectacular and totally strange.  It's also
so high up that any slight exertion puts you out of breath.  We had terrific
headaches by the time we got back down to Arica, Chile (a beach/port town at 
sea level).  If we had known ahead of time, we would have taken decongestants
and aspirin before going up.  The lunch stop offered coca tea.  This *isn't*
cocaine, it's just a few coca leaves steeped in hot water.  Smells kind of 
like mint tea, has a mild effect like coffee.  Opens up sinuses.  (It takes 
a ton of leaves to produce one kilo of cocaine...and it's got to be processed.)
The local indians chew wads of it.  We didn't go that far.  Refused it on the 
first stop, were dying for air by the second so we drank a cup for relief.  It
worked for about an hour, then the headaches came back in full force.  
	I'll state that despite our discomfort on that trip, Lauca was one of 
the most incredible sites that I've ever seen.  Someday I hope to go again, but
armed with decongestants, aspirin, bottled water, and probably a wad of coca 
leaves if all else fails :-).  I just hope that it remains as unspoiled as it is.
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From: klassen@sol.UVic.CA (Melvin Klassen)
Subject: Re: Information on Western Russia
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, B.C. CANADA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 00:24:57 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.093139.1@acad3.alaska.edu> fsbgf@acad3.alaska.edu (Brandon France) writes:
> I need to get in touch with someone in the western [sic?] side of Russia.  
> I would imagine that to be Khabarosk.  Does anyone know of an internet
> address in Khavarosk?  
             |||||||\\
 The domain "khabarovsk.su" is serviced by the hosts "ns.fuug.fi" & "ns.eu.net", so, try 'postmaster@khabarovsk.su'.
From: bworrall@placer.Corp.Sun.COM (Bob Worrall)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Princess Cruise Advice Needed
Date: 26 Jan 1993 00:04:46 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: bworrall@placer.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: placer.corp.sun.com
Keywords: Princess Cruise

I'll be cruising on the Star Princess during the first week of April
(Barbados, Martinique, St. Thomas, etc...) and was wondering whether
anyone has specific experience with this ship / cruise line. I've 
taken a number of cruises in the past but never with Princess Lines.
If you have advice on Princess Lines in general or the Star Princess
I'd like to hear from you. Please send e-mail responses to the address 
above.

Thanks,
Bob
From: pboren@rand.org (Pat Boren)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: European food prices?
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:45:00 GMT
Organization: RAND

In article <1993Jan25.234749.26932@Virginia.EDU> ejv2j@Virginia.EDU ("") writes:
>Matthew Raymond Flatt  writes:
>> I'm planning to tour parts of Europe this summer, and I'm trying to
>> figure out how long I can afford to stay. Food prices are the only area
>> where I have know idea how to estimate.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Matthew
>
>Good cereal is pretty scarce, unless you like puffed rice and
>Corn Flakes, and is therefore expensive.  Most places charge
>twice or three times the US price for cereal -- you'd better
>get used to bread.  Again, try the Nutella!!!
>
>
>Erik Velapoldi
>ejv2j@virginia.edu

Well, hold on a minute.  You paid for breakfast?  99.99999% of the
pensions/hotels/zimmers/etc. include breakfast.  In Germany, for
instance, breakfast has at least rolls, breads, cheeses, juice, and
fruit, and usually also includes the muesli type of cereal --
excellent and filling.  England includes porridge (oatmeal) or cereal
like Wheetabix.  Switizerland has wonderful muesli.  Can't believe
you had trouble finding cereal...

Some places throw in an egg.  Others include cold cuts like
salami and bologna.

This is by no means confined to big hotels.  Even countries
you wouldn't think would be into breakfast buffets, like
Czechoslovakia, still had nice spreads.

As for Nutella:  it's made from hazelnuts and tastes like
chocolate.  Agreed, it's a yummy spread for bread.

Back to the original question:  I size it up that a) breakfast
is part of the room rate, b) lunch = bread, meat, cheese, fruit
from a market or some type of local "sandwich" (e.g., meat pie
in England, croissant in France), and c) dinner will set you
back $10-$20 US.

Happy trails --

Pat
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	Patricia Boren
	pboren@rand.org
From: tordm@vand (Tord G.M. Malmgren)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Language problem in Europe
Date: 23 Jan 93 11:45:41 GMT
Reply-To: TordM@VanA.PhySto.SE
Organization: Department of Physics, University of Stockholm -- Sweden

In article <cfM6SYi00XQQ44k0No@andrew.cmu.edu>, Krishnan P Viswanath <kv22+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>       Here is the dilemma. We are planning a stopover in Europe enroute
>from India. I want to know how much of a problem language might pose
>over there. All I know is English and not a bit of any of the other
>European lingos. So, which cities should I avoid and which ones would be
>easier to travel in this case ?  The cities that I possibly can visit
>include
>Paris, Amsterdam, Rome & Athens.  (London not included ;-) )
>Another question : Which of these would you consider romantic ? For
>example, is Venice easily accessible from Athens etc.. ?

 you can get along by English in any of those cities, no problems. In
Athens everybody's real nice, and don't seem to mind at all if you speak
English as goes for Amsterdam. In Rome they might be a bit reluctant,
but they're friendly most of the time. Just be prepared to meet some
arrogance in Paris, though..
 I wouldn't call Venice easily accessed from Athens unless you go by air.
Yugoslavia is closed, so if you went by car or railway you'd have to go
around it, or take the ferry from Greece to Italy (usually Patras-Brindisi),
and then take a day or two to get up there...
 Any of these cities could be romantic, just put your mind to it.. :)




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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: Marc_North@mindlink.bc.ca (Marc North)
Subject: Tips on Ireland
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:45:08 GMT

Can any of you seasoned travellers offer me any tips about travelling in
Ireland? ( Serious tips only please, no jokes! :) ) Do you have any
recommendations of places to visit, places to stay, to eat, to avoid?

I'll be spending about a month there in June and I'm looking for any wisdom
from those of you either living there now or who have visited there recently.

I know, it's a vague request, so be as creative as you like in your replies!
Thanks a 10^6!

Marc


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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: motani@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Vancouver, BC to Mexico
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:25:22 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.17c by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: motani@vnet.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In <1993Jan26.103715.21908@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> meyerd@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Dietrich Meyer) writes:
>
>In march, I'm going to Whistler Mountain for skiing. After that, I want to go to
>Mexico. But what I want to know, is: 
>
>What's the cheapest way to get there?
>
>Grayhound would be cheap, but it would take couple days or even more to Mexico,
>DF. Is there a Student Travel Office in Vancouver, BC. where you can get cheap
>airplane tickets?  

You may want to call Travel CUTS in Vancouver. They are a student travel outfit
with offices across Canada. Their number is +1 604 681 9136. They have an office
in Downtown Vancouver and also at the University of B.C. They may also have an
office at Simon Fraser University, although I am not sure of this. Travelling by 
bus will probably take more than 2 days, depending on where in Mexico you want to
go. Air fares will also vary with where in Mexico you want to go, although the
west coast of Mexico will obviously be cheaper from Vancouver. You may also
want to investigate flights from Bellingham or Seattle in Wahington state
accross the border. Airfares tend to be cheaper from the US than from Canada.
Bellingham is 45 minutes from Vancouver and it's airport is (was?) served by 
TWA and Delta. Seattle is about 2.5 hours from Vancouver and is served by most 
major US airlines.


________________________________________________________________________________
Muiz Motani
IBM Canada Lab                  motani@vnet.ibm.com
Distributed System Products
From: bisselne@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Early Spring Trip to Bar Harbor?
Date: 23 Jan 93 08:40:47 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

Suggestions for Bar Harbor Trip?
We are planning a spring (late May/early June) vacation trip from
Cincinnati to Bar Harbor, ME, with our fold-down camper. We plan
to ignore most sight enroute until we join Highway #1 at Bath,
Maine, for a trip up the coast through Camden, etc., culminating
at Bass Harbor Campgrounds.  If anyone has suggestions which will
help make our trip successful and more enjoyable, please send
them via email.

Some of the questions we have are:  Is the weather likely to be
frigid?  What about camping on the "quiet side" of Mt. Desert
Island?   Know anything about the BH Campgrounds? What sights do
you recommend along the Maine Coast?

This will be our first major trip since retiring last year, so we
want to make it special.  Hope to hear from some of you.


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From: todd@sdsc.edu (T. Todd Elvins)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: INFO NEEDED: Dominican Republic
Date: 21 Jan 1993 16:08:41 GMT
Organization: San Diego Supercomputer Center @UCSD.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: todd@sdsc.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: jessicarabbit.sdsc.edu
Keywords: travel dominican republic info needed


I'm planning a trip to the Dominican Republic.  Would you please
send me any past network posting on this subject that you may
have collected/archived.  Or any experiences you may have collected :-)

	Hotels, beaches, restaraunts, when-to-go, nightlife, etc.

Thanks !
Todd

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From: perry@lheavx.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brendan Perry)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Car rentals in Europe
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:52:48 GMT
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center

Greetings,

I'm going to Europe in 6 weeks and have called all the car rental
agents listed in "Let's Go" to compare rates. I'd like advise on
companies, renting and driving in Germany. 

I decided to rent a car because there are 3 of us going and we're
going to Frankfurt, then Heidelberg, then Munich. Round trip on
the train seems to be about DM 200 (say, $125) for each of us, but a
car is DM 193 a week, unlimited mileage plus 15% minus a 10% discount
for being in AAA, plus gas (say, 1000 km total for the week, 50 kpg
= 20 gallons * $4/gallon = $80). So, instead of $125 * 3 = $375 for
train, it's $120 + $18.75 + $80 = $218.75 TOTAL. If my logic is
faulty or it's really $8 gallon for gas in Germany somebody tell me,
because I WANT not to have to drive, but we can see more in the 10 
days we'll be there, we can take side trips on the way, and its
cheaper.

So, what I want to know is, am I crazy or is it really cheaper to
drive if there is 3 of us (all over 27, so no discounted Eurail and
the like)? And, I'm not afraid of the driving, but how's the parking?
Can we find a place to park in Frankfurt, Heidelberg and Munich, or is
it 2 million dollars to park 8-) ? And, how much IS gas? I assumed
about $4 per gallon. 

I basically planned on driving the car only between cities, and use 
public transport or walk within our destinations.

Finally, am I getting a good deal with DM 193/week unlimited mileage???
(plus 5% tax and DM 10 tax in Frankfurt)

Viele Dank!

Brendan
From: kilpat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Andrew Kilpatrick)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Info on Beach Rentals in Ft. Lauderdale??
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:26:18 GMT
Reply-To: kilpat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Andrew Kilpatrick)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


Hi,

    I will be in Ft Lauderdale soon and was thinking about
renting a house for a week.  Does anyone have any information
on beach rental prooperties?

    Please E-mail any phone numbers of property agents or
private owner/renters.

    Thank You,
    Andrew
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: sharonk@bnr.ca
Subject: Request info on Edmonton
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 21:13:59 GMT

Hi there!

I'll be going to Edmonton for a couple of days in February. What is there to do
? What is a must see?

Thanks in advance

Sharon Kroo (sharonk@bnr.ca)
From: horner@carson.u.washington.edu (Darren Hoerner)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Touring Italy
Date: 28 Jan 1993 00:12:56 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu


Xref: sparky rec.travel:18268 rec.backcountry:10507
From: ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.backcountry
Subject: Some info on India
Date: 26 Jan 1993 01:36:31 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: almaak.usc.edu


I sent the following text by email to someone, and thought it
might be useful to others:

- I think the Ganga is most interesting upstream of Haridwar.  Beyond
that she loses very little height till the oceon.  At the very start,
when she is Alaknanda and Bhagirathi, she is terribly beautiful.
- Your focus on Garwhal is very sound.
One of the India's greatest wildlife parks is there -- Corbett
National park.  Closeby Himachal Pradesh is another nice state from
which to access the Himalayas.
- Kashmir is not a good place to visit given the religious nuts.
Just check if you can fly into Ladakh.  It is a peaceful group of
Buddhists and some of the craziest terrain in the world (all > 18k feet).
- One of my favourite quaint cities is Jodhpur.  Further to the west
Jaisalmer is very interesting.  Both these are routinely visited
by westerners, so it may not be bad.
- Bombay is the hotbed of commerce.  If you want to see the vibrant
economy of a new India, this is the place.  The stock market may
be of interest.  South of Bombay are a collection of some great
and undiscovered beaches (south of Alibag actually).
- Based in Bombay, you can access the Sahyadris, a small but interesting
range of mountains with a lot of history in them.  I've hiked in them
extensively, but never seen westerners in them -- so the information
needed to hike in them may not be readily accessible to you.
- New Delhi is a British-built town.  You can smell the Mughal
empire in Old Delhi if you have read enough history.
- In general, south of Bombay, things are much better by way of lawlessness.
- I've travelled a lot in Kerala and love it.  Good places to visit
are Kovalam beach, Periyar wildlife sanctuary and Kodaikanal.  Badrinath
sanctuary is said to be good too, but I've not been there yet.

        -ans.
-- 
Ajay Shah, (213)749-8133, ajayshah@rcf.usc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: me@dude.pcs.com (Michael Elbel)
Subject: Short sea cruise to the Bahamas from Florida
Organization: PCS Computer Systeme GmbH
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:39:36 GMT

We're be visiting Florida in April. We thought that a short
trip to the Bahamas (one or two days) might be interesting.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to find any actual info 
about available cruises, prices, and where they actually go
to, in Germany.

Everything I've found offered was package trips including
flight from/to Germany and Hotels in Florida. Since this is
way to inflexible (we already have a flight and want to pick
the hotels ourselves) and I have this nagging feeling that
booking a tour in the US might be cheaper, I'm asking the 
net community:

 - Are there short trips available where you actually have
   some time left to spend on the Bahamas. Seeing the Bahamas
   is our main goal. Travel guides are talking about one-day
   trips where you mainly can do some gambling or such, we
   wouldn't be much interested in something like this.

 - Are they worth the expense (your opinion of course)

 - What would the two of us have to spend (roughly, like
   $100, $500, $2000 or such)

 - Where to start, Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Port Canaveral?

 - How do you book them, any old travel agent, or what?

Thanks ahead for any info,

	Michael
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From: aclark@53iss5.Waterloo.NCR.COM (Allen Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Romantic Weekend ideas < 300 kms from London, Ont. - HELP!
Date: 21 Jan 93 01:54:15 GMT
Organization: Imaging Systems Division, NCR Corp, Waterloo, Ont., CANADA

My one year anniversary is fast approaching and I would like to
surprise my girlfriend by going away somewhere REALLY nice for the
weekend.  She lives in London, Ontario which is about 1.5 hours (I
think) from Detroit.  I'm also about 1 hour away from (Super Bowl
Champion?) Buffalo.

The maximum I'm willing to drive is about 300 km or three hours.  The
destination can be in the US or S. Ontario.  I'm leaning toward the
big bad USA as we have never actually been there together.

In S. Ontario we've done Stratford to death and have seen Niagra Falls
(including quaint little Niagra-on-the-Lake) plenty.

All ideas are greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.

allen.clark@waterloo.ncr.com

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From: sas@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (s.a.sullivan)
Subject: Re: More favorite beaches.
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:39:06 GMT

In article <35824@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU> smezias@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (Stephen J. Mezias) writes:
>Favorite beaches from someone who is avowedly inexpert on beaches: 
>
>Poipu beach, Kauai, Hawaii
>Manuel Antonio, Costa Rica
>
>SJM
Seaside Heights,NJ,