From: gummitch@techbook.com (Jeff Frane)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,soc.misc,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.misc,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Want facts? "WHO RUNS THE MEDIA? The Alarming Facts"
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:38:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: techbook.1992Apr13.203813.19355
Organization: TECHbooks of Beaverton Oregon - Public Access Unix

># >   # How so?  Do you mean to imply that the Zionist terrorism was
># >   # _completely_ ineffectual against the British?  Nonsense.

># >	   Zionist resistance played a part.  Zionist terrorism, for the most
># >   part (there were minor exceptions) was (as it still is now) a figment
># >   of some propagandists' imaginations.
> 
># Make up your mind.  First it was not a reason at all, now it did play
># a part.
> 
>	Instead of telling others to make up their mind, why do not you
>read.  The small amount of actual Jewish terrorism did not play any
>role in the British leaving.  Legitimate Jewish resistance did.

># And your characterization of Zionist terrorism merely shows your
># ignorance.

>	Nope, but some of what you characterize as Zionist teerrorism does
>show your ignorance.

># You should read your history books about King David Hotel,

>	Which was not a terrorist act.

># the assassinations of Lord Moyne, Count Bernadotte,

>	I doubt that these acts played a significant role.

># and many
># significant Zionist terrorist actions in the 1929-1948 period.  Hardly
># minor exceptions.
> 
>	What is a minor exception are those actions taken by ZIonists
>during that period that were terrorist actions.

Aha!  Now we begin to get the idea.  If an act of resistance (such as
blowing up a hotel serving as British headquarters and killing innocent
Arabs, Jews and British) is committed by Zionists, it is NOT terrorism.
If a similar act, of course, was committed by Palestinians (note,
Makowsky, no cute ?) then it would be a heinous terrorist act.


># >   # >   Do you know what percentage of Israel was contained in the Sinai?

># >   # 0%.  The Sinai was never considered to be part of Israel by the world
># >   # community.  That was a trick question, funny huh.

># >	   What the world community considered it was irelevent.  How would
># >   you like it if the world community refused to recognize your property
># >   rights to your own home?  
> 
This is a very good question.  Turn it around, Makowsky, how would you
feel if you were a Palestinian Arab in Jaffa in 1947.  The United
Nations tells you that your home is actually in the Jewish state. How
would you like it?


># And here we see the image of arrogance.  World opinion be damned,

>	Great way to respond.  You did not even address my point.

># Israel took the Sinai from Egypt, and that's it.  Luckily Begin was
># more flexible than you appear to be.

>	Which was one of his few mistakes.

># Answer me this:  How many Jews
># lived in the Sinai in 1966?  Then tell me that it was the home of Israel.
> 
>	This is irelevent.  Israel payed for the Sinai with its blood in
>defensive struggles.  And then gave it back.  This has happened more then
>once, by the way.

?? Some clear examples, please.

And please, explain your relationship to Gush Emunim.  Just out of
curiosity, what are the real borders of Greater Israel?


--Jeff Frane

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