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From: jbhuber@iastate.edu (Joseph B Huber)
Subject: Re: Browns News - Nov 20th (Vikings' game)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:53:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.165044.25095@unislc.uucp> jag@unislc.uucp (John Ganske)
writes:
>mocnik@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com writes:
>[stuff deleted]
>> 
>>keys to Browns winning:
>>----------------------
>[other keys deleted]
>>- The defense must not allow any quick strikes for TD's. The Vikings like to 
>>  throw deep. They get into trouble when they have to march slowly.
>I'm one Vikes fan who doesn't share this opinion.  I would rather see the 
>Vikes 
>march slowly up the field, and at times this year they have shown that they
>are more capable of doing it than recent Vikings teams.  I have seen some good
>drives this year accumulated with Terry Allen (and some Roger Craig) runs,
>screen passes to Allen, short passes to Cris Carter.
[...]
>What do any other Vikes fans/observers say?

I was dissapointed that the Vikings passed so much during the Oilers game. The
running game was making decent gains, but it seemed that the Vikes were in
pass mode for some reason. After it became clear that Gannon and the recievers
were having a tough day, the Vikes should have went back to Terry Allen and
Roger Craig, but they kept on throwing downfield. 

I also heard Trumpy comment on Sunday that the Viking pass routes only have 1
or 2 options (no "safety-valve"). This looked to be the case in the Oiler game;
On many occasions, Gannon had plenty of time, but no-one to throw to.

IMO, the Vikes need to establish the running/short passing game before they
can pass deep. I seems that Minnesota's deep recievers have trouble getting
open. Either the Carter's are getting slow, or the VIkes need a couple of more
recievers in the pass patterns.

-- 
Joe Huber 
(jbhuber@iastate.edu)        | Capt. James T. Kirk on the 2nd law of thermo: 
Dept. of Mech. Egr.          |  "It's not a hundred percent efficient,
Iowa State University        |   but nothing ever is."
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From: whitesel@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Daniel Whitesell)
Subject: Re: THE BET III
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: world,local
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:32:40 GMT

Count me in on AFC side!!!

whitesel@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Dan Whitesell)
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From: tes0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (THOMAS EDWIN SCHMIDLIN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Steelers - Foster romps again
Date: 23 Nov 92 08:59:02 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <23NOV92.02475718@vax.clarku.edu>, htilney@vax.clarku.edu writes:
>I didn't see the game, and the only stat I caught was Foster's 168 yards
>rushing and 2 touchdowns. I think he needs only 30 yards or so to break
>Franco Harris' team record.
>
>Impressions, please! (And I don't mean comedy.) How did Brister look?
>The defense? What's the team's injury status now? Any of the recievers
>have a big day? I know that the score was 27 - 7 going into the 4th.
>
>The Bengals are next! Don't forget to bring your broom.
>
>Bart
>

Brister was generally shitty.  Foster looked awesome, and he would have had
even more yards if he hadn't been left the game.  He wasn't hurt, but Cowher
decided (wisely IMHO) to save him.  The STEELERS were never really in danger
of losing, although the colts mounted some impressive drives.  Unfortunately
for them, the defensive backfield ripped them apart, intercepting what's his
face (the french guy) 3 times.  One TD came on an 81 yard pass + run, but the
second score came after some good passing.

Foster had a 42 yard run after a screen from Brister.  The STEELERS defense
stayed mostly with the dime package, even when the colts decided to run.  I
think this was a major slap in the face to the colts offense, but they
couldn't run against it.  The STEELERS shut them down completely in the first
half, 13-0.  All in all, a pretty good game, but there wasn't enough pressure
on the QB IMO.
-- 


Tom Schmidlin       DEEP THOUGHTS: By Jack Handey - I wish a robot would
TES0@LEHIGH.EDU         get elected president.  That way, when he came
215-758-0875            to town, we could all take a shot at him and not
                        feel too bad.
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From: chill@cbnews.cb.att.com (daniel.a.miller)
Subject: Re: BROWNS NEWS - Nov 16th (Charger game)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:14:47 GMT

In article <26625@optima.cs.arizona.edu> dkl@cs.arizona.edu (David K. Lowenthal) writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.072947.9282@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> mocnik@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com writes:
>>Browns News - Nov 16th
>>- Once again the dog-pound showed its brains, or lack thereof, by throwing
>>  snowballs throughout the game at the Chargers. Luckily no player was hurt.
>>  Maybe these idiots should be allowed on the field and the players can then
>>  pelt them !!!!!!!  This is completely uncalled for, and it is an 
>>  embarrassment for the city of Cleveland and its good fans.
>
>Is this some sort of surprise?  This happens at every Browns home game it seems

	Please NOTE: I do NOT condone this type of behavor!!!!!

	But, look at the bright side...... They did not throw batteries, 
bottles, or any other HARD object.

- Dan
  Gooooooo Browns!
From: rege@bongo.Berkeley.EDU (Ashutosh G. Rege)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Top players in total yards from scrimmage
Date: 20 Nov 1992 07:03:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In article <meskes.722162016@ulysses> meskes@ulysses.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Meskes) writes:
>Here they are again, the best 12 players in total yards from scrimmage:
>
> Name			Games Played 	Total Yards	TD
>Thurman Thomas			10	1290		9
>Barry Foster			10	1258		5
>Emmitt Smith			10	1195		13
>Ricky Watters			10	1181		9

  What I'd like to see a yards per attempt on the total yards thing.
  I kinda have the feeling that Rickey Watters might win that one. 
  He's clearly ahead on yards per rush. And only a (near) rookie. 
  Have the Niners solved their running back problem or what ? Now,
  if they only had a pass rusher and/or Dana Hall improves in leaps
  and bounds.
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From: dansmith@mcopn2.dseg.ti.com (Dan Smith)
Subject: Re: Brett Favre vs. Eagles defense
Reply-To: dansmith@mcopn2.dseg.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:21:19 GMT

I realize that I was wrong for posting info about Farve's accident. I shouldn't
have done it. I got to rambling and didn't realize that what's fairly common
knowledge at USM or the Gulf Coast may not be around the country. Brett has
changed a lot since then and has always been a good person. Anyway, for any
reporters, etc. reading this group it was just hearsay (my brother could be
lying). No actual proof. 

Anyway GO BRETT!!! Lead the league in passing! I'm sure one day he will.


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From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Subject: Re: AFC TEAMS STINK
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 06:57:47 GMT

In article <26485@optima.cs.arizona.edu> curtis@optima.UUCP (Curtis E. Dyreson) writes:
>Show me the many others over the past 8 years.  Let's look at the
>NFC championship games (from memory so my facts may be off, here's your cue
>Ed)
>
>Clear blowouts: `84 49ers, `85 Bears, `86 Giants, `89 49ers, `91 Redskins
>Close Games: `87 Redskins, `90 Giants
>Not sure: `88 49ers
OK, let's look at the past 8 years
               NFC Championship                   Super Bowl
1984          49ers 23 Bears 0               49ers 38 Dolphins 16
1985          Bears 24 Rams 0                Bears 46 Patriots 10
1986          Giants 17 Redskins 0           Giants 39 Broncos 20
1987          Redskins 17 Vikings 10         Redskins 42 Broncos 10
1988          49ers 28 Bears 3               49ers 20 Bengals 16
1989          49ers 30 Rams 3                49ers 55 Broncos 10
1990          Giants 15 49ers 13             Giants 20 Bills 19
1991          Redskins 41 Lions 10           Redskins 37 Bills 24

In my opinion, these are the NFC playoff losers better than the AFC champs
(i.e. that can beat the AFC champs at a neutral site):

84: --
85: Giants 
86: Redskins, 49ers
87: Vikings, Saints, 49ers
88: Vikings
89: Rams, Giants
90: 49ers
91: --

Notice the Bears are missing in the list. Even though they have been a
playoff fixture, they have never had McMahon healthy except in one year.
With Fuller, Flutie, or an injured McMahon at the helm, I don't think they
could have beaten any AFC team.

Of course, these are the AFC playoff losers better than the NFC champs:

84: --
85: --
86: --
87: --
88: --
89: --
90: --
91: --

>I count two, maybe 3 non-blowout NFC championship games going back to '84, 
>and surprise, surprise, two close SuperBowl games (`88 and `90).  
But that's telling us nothing. A 27-point blowout on the road is different
from a 45-point rout at a neutral site.

In 1989, the Rams lost to the 49ers by 27 on the road, the Broncos lost 
at a neutral site by 45, the Giants lost to the Rams in OT. Both the Giants 
(12-4) and the Rams (11-5) had no worst record than the Broncos (11-5). All 
these told me that they could have beaten the Broncos at New Orleans too. 
Could the Browns or the Bills have beaten the 49ers?

In 1987, the Redskins were supposed to be the 3rd best team in the conference
(#3 seed, tied for 3rd best record behind the Saints and the 49ers). They
demolished the Broncos. Can you imagine the Broncos beating the 49ers
or the Saints at Jack Murphy Stadium? or can you imagine the 3rd best AFC
team (Colts) beating the NFC champs? 

>Why?  In most of the last 8 years, there has been one great team in the NFL, 
>not 2.  The problem here is with your expectations.
But most of the time, apparently it didn't take a great team to beat the
AFC champs. 

-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
                                          
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From: nix@aslslc43.asl.dl.nec.com (David Nix)
Subject: Re: Refs Calls (+ attention Dave Mikesell)
Organization: NEC America, Inc Irving TX
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:07:22 GMT

>       The first was on a run by Thomas.  He was knocked out of bounds on
>the goal line but his knee knocked over the pylon.  The Bills fans I was
>watching with all thought that it was a touchdown.  I disagreed (I'm a
>Steeler fan so I was FAIRLY unbiased) saying that the ball has to cross
>the goaline and it appeared to me that Thomas's upper body and therefore
>the football were out of bounds, consequently no touchdown.  Did anyone
>else get a better look at that play?

The way I understand the rule is that if a player has control of the ball in
the field of play and then the ball crosses the plane of the endzone without
the player leaving the field of play then it is a TD.  This means:
  1) if the player extends the ball over the plane of the endzone but his body
     is in the field of play, it is a TD.
  2) if a player dives from the field of play to the corner of the endzone and
     ends up out of bounds, it is a TD if the ball crossed the plane, even 
     though the player never physically touched the endzone.
  3) if a player catches a ball in the endzone then his feet must come down
     in the endzone because he has not yet been in control of the ball in the
     field of play.
  4) if in the referees judgement the receiver would have come down in bounds
     but was forced out by a defender then it is a TD.

Item #2 covers the Thurman Thomas situation. He crossed the pylon and stepped
out of bounds almost at the same time, the only question being did the ball
cross the plane and did it do so before Thomas' feet touched down out of bounds.Several angles were shown and it looked like the ball may have barely caught the
corner of the endzone just a split second before Thomas stepped out (Thomas 
body never touched the endzone).  Too close to call, it wouldn't have been
overruled by IR.

David
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From: gilmer@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (John R. Gilmer)
Subject: Ken Willis
Keywords: What happened?
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:57:39 GMT


Does anyone know what happened to ken willis the kicker from TB?
I know they signed Murray, but why?

please e-mail:
gilmer@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: 49ers/Saints
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:04:11 GMT

In article <BxtMr7.D72@encore.com> tolsen@encore.com (Ted Olsen) writes:
>jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Nov16.010311.24644@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com writes:
>
>>>Question : why were the 49ers in such a hurry with 1st and goal at the
>>>seven and 50 seconds left? Huddle up and let the clock run a little bit
>>>for crying out loud! Fortunately it didn't end up costing them.
>>>
>>Perhaps it was the URGENCY of the situation, try and score ASAP.
>>But, as you say, it didn't end up costing the Niners.
>
> [ stuff deleted ]
>Now...  on to reality...  Put yourself in Marino's position.  You
>have just driven to put the team in the position to win.  The clocks
>running with less then a minute, it's forth down, and the fans are going
>crazy.  With all this shit going on do you have the sense to let the
>clock run down before calling the timeout????
>
>Ted
>
Good point! However, this is what SOMETIMES, not always,
separates the men from the boys. Hebert was asked why he
didn't call time on the last drive against the Niners.
His response was more or less, it was not my responsibility.
He said it was up to the sidelines (coaches) to signal to
him to call the timeouts.

Shit, what kind of answer is that. He was in charge, so I
thought, he should have taken the bulls by the horn and called
the timeout. I guess, he is brained washed into only following
orders from the sidelines, and without that type of direction,
he cannot sustain/think or whatever. 
-- 
  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
"I do not think that winning is the most important thing. 
I think winning is the only thing."    - Bill Veeck
From: GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: SUPER BOWL TALK: BILLS AND 49ERS
Date: 20 Nov 1992 14:18:08 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
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In article <By00JE.AsA@acsu.buffalo.edu>,
v073pzuy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Damned for all time...) writes:

>In article <1edvuoINNqv7@morrow.stanford.edu>, GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu
>        (Tony Bechtold) writes...
>
>>How are we suppose to prove you wrong?  About the only way I can
>>think of a way is if the two meet in the Superbowl, and the 49ers
>>come out on top.  Being that you are biased fan of your team who
>>thinks that your Buffalo's chips don't stink, I'm not going to waste
>>my time with any other method.

>Ah yes, from the hallowed mouth of Tony "GO 49ERS!" Bechtold, the most unbiased
>man to view the game...

Thanks! I appreciate that comment :-)

>>Although I will mention that the Bills team beat a 49ers team who
>>was missing the greatest WR in the league, missing perhaps the best
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>Because he can't take a hit like Andre Reed?  The Bills knocked Rice *cleanly*
>out of that game.  He couldn't take the hit.

Out of curiosity, how did this come up?? I don't remember mentioning
anything about the hit on Rice. I just said he was missing in the
game.  What are you talking about?

>>catching TE in the game, and missed a few very makable field goals,
>>let alone excelled in every offensive category over the Bills except
>>number of plays. I guess you are right, the 49ers just don't have a
>>chance at winning that game.
>
>I agree, this was a bad thing to say...guess we'll just have to wait and see.
>
>                                        ---Chet Zeshonski

Wait and see what?  I don't know about you, but I don't consider the
49ers a "shoe-in" to the Superbowl.

                                                         Tony
                                                      GO 49ERS!!!
From: v073pzuy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Damned for all time...)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Niners 21, Saints 20
Keywords: WORSHIPMORANOW
Date: 24 Nov 92 00:22:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov23.231041.7421@nntpserver.chevron.com>, hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde) writes...
>>>Then there's that 8-2 AFL team.......Bub...Biff...Babs....whatever.....
>>
>>Yeah, 34-31, pal.  And a *whole* bunch of other reasons...
> 
>Get a clue Chet (a.k.a. Damned).  The fact that I mentioned Buff shows that 
>I consider them one of the top 4-5 teams right now.

What this sounds like to me is a team "not worth mentioning..."

"Bub...Biff...Babs...whatever..."

Like you said.  "Whatever."

>J.J.(any Bills takers on a BET IV?) Clyde

					---Chet Zeshonski

Damn, I wish they would have run up the score...ah well, implications down the
road are fairly meaningless...after all, it's only an NFC team...
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From: ibsnat@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Gordon Tsuji)
Subject: NFL picks from HI
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:06:05 GMT

 
November 17, 1992
 
Well, an un-impressive 8-6 against the spread last week brings 
the season record to 71-49-1.  Here are my computer program's 
plays for this weekend.
 
Favorite         Line        Underdog
BILLS           13.00         Falcons     TAKE
GIANTS           EVEN          Eagles     GIANTS
DOLPHINS         4.50          Oilers     GIVE
BENGALS          3.00           Lions     TAKE
BEARS            5.50         Packers     GIVE
VIKINGS         10.00          Browns     TAKE
STEELERS        10.00           Colts     GIVE
RAIDERS          3.50         Broncos     GIVE
49ers            7.00            RAMS     TAKE
Cowboys          9.50       CARDINALS     GIVE
Jets             4.50        PATRIOTS     GIVE
CHARGERS         8.50      Buccaneers     TAKE
Chiefs          13.00        SEAHAWKS     GIVE
SAINTS           4.50        Redskins     GIVE
 
Home team in CAPS, point spread as of 11/16/92.
 
I also thought I'd add my program's power ratings list used to 
predict the above games.  Here it is:
 
Rank Name         Record       Power   W/L Marg.
---- ----         ------       -----   ---------
  1. Saints       ( 7- 3- 0)    7.87    8.9/ 3.0
  2. 49ers        ( 8- 2- 0)    7.46   16.6/ 6.5
  3. Vikings      ( 7- 3- 0)    7.02   16.9/ 6.7
  4. Cowboys      ( 8- 2- 0)    5.63   15.4/14.0
  5. Dolphins     ( 7- 3- 0)    5.62   14.6/ 9.7
  6. Chiefs       ( 6- 4- 0)    4.60   13.5/ 8.8
  7. Bills        ( 8- 2- 0)    4.13   16.9/22.0
  8. Browns       ( 5- 5- 0)    3.21    8.6/ 9.6
  9. Steelers     ( 7- 3- 0)    2.42   12.4/10.0
 10. Eagles       ( 6- 4- 0)    1.51   16.3/ 6.0
 11. Rams         ( 4- 6- 0)    1.31   11.8/10.5
 12. Oilers       ( 6- 4- 0)    1.31   12.3/ 5.5
 13. Lions        ( 2- 8- 0)    1.26   22.5/10.5
 14. Redskins     ( 6- 4- 0)    1.01   10.0/13.0
 15. Chargers     ( 5- 5- 0)    0.58   12.2/13.6
 16. Raiders      ( 4- 6- 0)    0.21   14.0/12.5
 17. Giants       ( 5- 5- 0)   -0.25   14.6/12.2
 18. Bears        ( 4- 6- 0)   -0.26   12.5/11.7
 19. Broncos      ( 7- 3- 0)   -1.30    8.0/21.3
 20. Jets         ( 3- 7- 0)   -2.06    8.0/ 9.0
 21. Buccaneers   ( 4- 6- 0)   -3.62   12.8/15.7
 22. Bengals      ( 4- 6- 0)   -3.88   11.0/14.8
 23. Falcons      ( 4- 6- 0)   -5.48    5.5/16.8
 24. Colts        ( 4- 6- 0)   -5.52    8.8/20.8
 25. Packers      ( 4- 6- 0)   -7.02    8.0/16.0
 26. Cardinals    ( 3- 7- 0)   -7.75    6.3/10.0
 27. Patriots     ( 1- 9- 0)  -10.45    3.0/13.6
 28. Seahawks     ( 1- 9- 0)  -11.11    4.0/15.4
 
The last column gives the average point margin for a team's wins 
and losses.  ie. shows whether a team (on average) wins close 
games and gets blown out in losses, or whatever.
 
Daniel
From: bittle@niktow.canisius.edu (Jason Bittle)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Exciting game!
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:39:13 GMT
Organization: Canisius College, Buffalo NY. 14208

In article <1e8vqeINNc67@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, cor@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Cory Shimer) writes:
> 
> The Bad :	PAtriots : Fred Smerlas. too many penalties for one man,
>                            but played ok. I think the Pat's had well over
>                            100 yards in penaltied for this game. Sheesh.


"Real" Buffalo fans will realize that this is a classic Fred Smerlas game, as
he was always (ALWAYS) jumping offsides in Buffalo, during his tenure here.

I can remember series of downs where Fred would give them first downs without
the offense ever having to run a play!!!


-- 
ciao,                             
Jason Bittle (bittle@canisius.edu) 
(a.k.a. Pillsbury Dough Boy )
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From: MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus Lindroos INF)
Subject: Re: NFL-the business side?
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 11:08:28 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Does anyone know if National Football League teams reveal their budgets to the
public or is this classified information? I am curious to find out where the
money goes, how much the players and employees (everyone from the GM to the
marketing people) get, what the main sources of income are (licensing,
television, sponsorship deals...) etc.. 
 
MARCU$
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Marcus Lindroos                             Internet:     mlindroos@abo.fi
Computer Science
Abo Akademi University
Finland
From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Troy Aikman
Date: 18 Nov 1992 15:12:42 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Howard Hughes Medical Institute
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In article <cqkcyes@Unify.Com> tsv@Unify.com (Tim Vannaman) writes:
 >I've been a 'Boys fan all of my life (even thru the dark ages!), and am
 >disgusted w/ the way Troy played in the final minute of the Rams game.
 >(That was all that was shown, here in 9er land).  
 >
 >It made me mad the way he used the clock, and the final two plays into the
 >endzone? who was he throwing to???  I admit he is an above average  QB,  but
 >he  sure does look clueless at times.  I hope this is an experience issue and
 >not him being hard-headed.
 
In a post game interview Aikman said he was throwing to Kelvin Martin who
was streaking across the back of the Endzone, "K-Mart lost site of me
and pulled up his route". My problem was letting time run off the clock
then throwing out of bounds to stop the clock, HUH ! I have no idea......

tim



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