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From: prkenne@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (CAROL SHARP)
Subject: Re: Weird Habits
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Date:  6 Jan 1993 11:11 EST  

In article <1993Jan5.092222.3124@peanut>, tims@bvc.edu writes...
>When I walk my one year old golden retreiver, Ming, on the frozen lake near 
>our house, she likes to lay in the snow drifts on one side, then kick her 
>legs and spin circles.  I think she's scratching her neck, but also making 
>doggie snow angels!  While out for our daily long walk, she'ss do it  six 
>or eight times, then jump up and run over to me as if to point out her 
>work!  Definately a weird dog habit.  But then again, she's a weird dog! :)

Our 8 month old golden thinks walks are treasure hunts.  Every few feet he 
picks up a stick or piece of garbage and holds it up like its a prize and 
carries it until he sees a new, better prize.  Is this weirdness common to 
goldens or does Buddy just have a few screws loose?


            " Learn from the mistakes of others
             you can never live long enough to
             make them all yourself"

                                *Carol*
From: rasmussenc@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dalmations -- a funny line I remember from the past!
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:33:18 GMT
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia

>  I read through the answers you got about getting a Dalmatian. There
>appeared to be several plusses and minuses.  

Someone mentioned that Dals have no uric acid in their urine which as
a result, doesn't leave yellow burned out areas in the lawn.   This
made me laugh aloud because I remember a conversation years ago between
my mother and our next door neighbor:

(Male dalmation comes over to our house and lifts his leg on our hedge,
my mother yells, and the neighbor comes running over....)

"Kathy - Don't worry, Dalmatians don't have uric acid in their urine,
so your bush won't be harmed!"

Mother responds, "I don't care if he pees chicken noodle soup!!! I don't
want him lifting his leg on our hedge!"

tehehehehe.  Chris R
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From: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Subject: Re: puppy mills
Reply-To: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Distribution: na
Date: 8 Jan 93 03:23:52 GMT

Betsy Weatherhead writes:
> [at] a pet store which sells dogs or cats [I tell] the store clerk
> why I am leaving their store without buying anything
> I want the message to trickle through to [store management]

I suspect the message is getting through.  A recent issue of a pet
industry trade magazine acknowledges a trend toward stores that don't
sell "livestock", as they put it.  They see this as part of a larger
trend toward chains and "superstores".  An example is Petco, which
sells pet food and products but no pets, has more floorspace and
product variety than most, offers pet vaccination clinics, and works
with local shelters.

Of course, we have a long way to go.  At least 8 million animals.
Per year.  In the US alone.

-- Jon
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From: shazam@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Bouvier Breeders
Date: 11 Jan 93 08:43:12 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

I have been searching for a Bouvier myself, and have done quite a bit
of research and phone calling.  Some of the best lines are the Quiche
line out of Canada, and there are two really good lines that I know
of, but that are not in that area.  One is Dr. Eric Houttuin in
Crystal City, Missouri who has the Flanders Field Kennels and line....
and Jim and Kathy Engle of Marengo, Illinois who have the Centauri
line...he is also the author of a recent Bouvier book that is OUTSTANDING.
Shipping is normally around $100 dollars, depending on where and to, and
there is an additional charge of a crate.  From what I have read and
been told, these lines are clean, healthy, and these people are dedicated
to preserving the breed and trying to maintain the original purpose
of the breed, which is for herding, protection, and police dogs.
You see this MUCH more in Europe than in the United States.

I have been told you can expect to pay between $600 and $1200 dollars
for a puppy.  I have talked to Jim Engle personally, who seems to be
very helpful, and caring about the breed, which is important for me.

I think I have finally found the right breeder for me, and she is
located in Tenn.  She is breeding her female to one of the Quiche's
of Canada, of whom I have gone crazy for.  To see one of that line,
look in the December issue of Dog World, and look at the article on
the Father's Day dog show in Calif.  The picture of the Bouv who took
the Herding Group is Quiche's Maverick.  He is one of the most gorgeous
Bouvs I have ever seen.

Hope this info helped, and good luck!  If you have any questions feel
free to email me as I will be more than happy to help if I can.

Suzanne and MIn
From: CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: puppy mills
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 08:15:56 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University
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In article <C0I99s.H9w@austin.ibm.com>
   repass@austin.ibm.com (Jim Repass) writes:
 
>> "Oh.  Do you guarantee against hip displaysia until the dog is 2?"
>> 	"No. The guarantee is 1 year."
>> "But Orthopedic Foundation for Animals won't certify a dog is free of hd
>>  until it is at least 2 years old.  You can't tell if a dog is okay at 1
>
>As a responsible Newfoundland breeder I only guarantee puppies to be free
>from crippling hip displaysia for 1 year. Crippling means that the dog can't
>function. The OFA certification at 2 years is NOT part of the guarantee.
>The dog can fail the OFA and still be a happy, functioning animal. Of course,
>we don't breed dogs that don't get their OFA. To my knowledge, no one
>guarantees their puppies to be FREE from hip displaysia.
 
 
I DO.  And everyone that I associate with that breeds does.  I think
you need to redefine what you think is a "responsible" breeder.  I
sure wouldn't buy a puppy from you with that kind of garantee.
 
 
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I've heard about feeding a dog brewer's yeast along with its food to
help make the coat shiny.

How much brewer's yeast is appropriate (this is about a 20 lb. dog)?
Are there any ill side effects?

Thanks,
Karen
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Subject: Re: Jack Russell Terriers
From: shoran@mtroyal.ab.ca
Date: 11 Jan 93 13:03:05 MST
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta

In article <1993Jan8.142955.10794@sequent.com>, schalene@sequent.com (Schalene Dagutis) writes:
> Does anyone on the net know the contact information for the national
> Jack Russell Terrier breed club?
> 
> schalene
> 

There are two national clubs:

Jack Russell Terrier Breeders Association of America
Sec: Donna Maloney
P.O. Box 353
Windham
CT 06280
(203) 423-8350

Jack Russell Terrier Club of America
P.O. Box 365
Far Hills
NJ 07931

As far as I remember from reading an article or two some time ago, the two
clubs favour different types of Jack Russell, and thus are not the best of
friends.

Stef
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Subject: Re: Dealing with Chewing
From: RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg)
Date: 10 Jan 93 09:19:06 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Philosophy Dept., Wesleyan University
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In <1993Jan9.223757.14@cgate.sait.ab.ca> mseppola@cgate.sait.ab.ca writes:

>to look into your house insurance, it might cover the damage that your god has
>already done.  I know of cases where all of the damage was covered by  ^^^
>insurance.  Good Luck again.

WITTY COMMENT #1:
Gee, mine specifically excludes "acts of God".   ;-)

WITTY COMMENT #2:
Sounds like the hierarchy in your house is: god 1st, namuh 2nd.  ;-)

WITTY COMMENT #3:
Interesting how many readers of r.p.d worship our canines...   ;-)

(Sorry, I just couldn't resist.  No offense (or speling flaam) intended.)

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Ruth Ginzberg <rginzberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA
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From: rvele@ctp.com (Raymond Velez)
Subject: breeding a lab
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners
Distribution: us
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:26:57 GMT

	I am interested in breeding my 11 month male black labrador.
I figure since he seems to be a healthy, smart lab I would like to
breed him before he gets neudered.(sp)  Anyway, suggestions and names
of people to be breed with are welcome. Thank You.
				
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From: tims@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Goldens as protection?
Date: 12 Jan 93 09:45:15 CST
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

My one-year golden, Ming, used to be very happy to see just about everyone 
who was happy to se her, but in the last two-three months, she has gotten 
to be protective of her yard and house, and has this great growl/snort and 
intruder alert howl that she bellows out whenever someone strange walks 
past the house on the sidewalk.  I've seen lots of people cross the street 
*grin* when they see her and she barks!  

If you want a dog that is really a great protector, get a German Shepherd.  
My first dog was a GS, and she was the best protector we ever had. VERY 
loyal to her family and something peope don't want to mess around with.

If you want a Golden and a protector, train it to bark at strangers.
Lots of trainers can give you tips on how to do this.

TiM
From: tims@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Weird Habits
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:22:22 GMT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

When I walk my one year old golden retreiver, Ming, on the frozen lake near 
our house, she likes to lay in the snow drifts on one side, then kick her 
legs and spin circles.  I think she's scratching her neck, but also making 
doggie snow angels!  While out for our daily long walk, she'ss do it  six 
or eight times, then jump up and run over to me as if to point out her 
work!  Definately a weird dog habit.  But then again, she's a weird dog! :)

TiM
From: ac0g@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ANNEMARIE CONNOR)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: thanks for "puller" responses
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:35:12 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Thank you to all who responded to my inquiry about pulling on the choker.  I
have decided to try the "halti" head collar.  I'll keep you all posted of our
success (or failure)!
                                    Thanks,
                                    Annemarie and HOMER the mighty puller
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Subject: Re: puppy greets friends by piddling on them :-(
From: RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg)
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:30:09 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Philosophy Dept., Wesleyan University
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In <1993Jan06.150156.21396@stiatl.salestech.com> rwt@stiatl.salestech.com writes:
> 
> my apartment, and he'll piddle on them in his excitment (he LOVES
> meeting new people).
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to stop the liquid part
> of this behavior?

This is so-called "submissive urination."  Not a housetraining mistake.  Brief
summary of some of the suggestions I've seen (here on r.p.d., & elsewhere)
and/or tried:
1. Do not punish the behavior.
2. It may get better as the pup gets older.
3. Try to arrange low-key meetings, outside, if possible.
4. Ask the guest to kneel or squat.  Towering over the pup makes it worse.
5. Make the pup SIT & let the newcomer approach him rather than vice versa.
6. Especially don't let pup jump up (excitedly) or squat down (submissively).
7. Stock up on Nature's Miracle.
8. If you're expecting company, take the pup out just before their arrival.
9. If pup does it for household member, that person should ignore pup for 5-10
minutes after arriving home, before acknowledging pup's presence.


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Ruth Ginzberg <rginzberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA
From: John Austin <jea1@cornell.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Help Requested
Date: 11 Jan 1993 13:29:17 GMT
Organization: Boyce Thompson Institute
Distribution: world
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X-XXDate: Mon, 11 Jan 93 13:36:56 GMT

So, here's the story (please excuse if FAQ- I'm new here).

I share my appartment w/ a grad student and her dog.  When I come home, Cheech
(Cairn terrier) is happy to see me, and I greet her friendily.  However, if
Cheech can't see me, and I make some noise, she'll bark repeatedly.  This is
most accutely a problem in the morning, when I need to pass by the closed door
of Cheech's (and her owner's) room.  I used to be able to get by undetected
half the time, but recently she has my schedule down pat, and I end up
awakenning my appartment-mate regularly.  

I wonder if there was some strategy (perhaps involving a dog whistle) whereby
I could
a) inform Cheech that it's just me; everything's ok, or (less happily)
b) use the whistle aversively to break the unwanted barking

without awakenning the owner or requiring an open bedroom door?  The current
strategy (Shut up, Cheech!) doesn't work. Any help would be appreciated
greatly, either to the group or via e-mail.

Thanks in advance.


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John Austin (jea1@cornell.edu)                                                 
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From: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu ()
Subject: Re: Looking for good german shepard breeders in the IL/WI area.
Reply-To: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu ()
Organization: Materials Research Lab
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:05:54 GMT

In article <laird.725727156@stable.ecn.purdue.edu>,
laird@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Kyler Laird) writes:

|>Here's the most helpful reply I received when asking about GSD's in IL/IN
|>area.  I am betting that Kay won't mind me posting this.  (Thanks!)
Wow, the most helpful, neat! Of course I don't mind!!!!

Wrote Hank a message already, but here's the info I was going to send you
(had to get from hubby, but now that it's here....:) )

|>Okay, here's the info. Greenfield Shepards, owned by Wendy Urban (and her
|>hubby) RR#1 Box 241, Cissna Park, IL 60924. Phone is 815-457-2641. 
|

And if anyone wants to know more about them or my wonderful
puppy, Siegfried, just drop me a line!!  And for the curious, Siegfried
is now 5 months old and somewhere over 55 lbs...he still hasn't
grown into his feet, or his ears, for that matter! :-)

And for those of you who missed it, or have forgotten. Siegfried is 
our second doggie and is PURE black. He also lives with 2 cats and is
our first Shepherd. So, if you need to talk to someone about having
more than one dog or cats and dogs or 1st experiences with a 
GSD, don't hesitate to drop me a line!!! Our other dog is a 2.5
year old black Cocker Spaniel, female.

Kay & Crew
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From: morss@ssd.kodak.com (Charlie Morss)
Subject: Re: Re: Too much praise?!?
Organization: Ektron, a division of Eastman Kodak, Co.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 17:53:58 GMT

I'd like to thank everyone for there ideas about "too much praise".
My wife and I have come to an agreement that we will eliminate
the phase "Good Dog" and "Good Puppy" from our every day "conversations"
with our dog. 

We keep catching each other on it.  Last night my wife told Malcolm
he was a "Good Boy" and I asked what he did, and after a pause 
she replied, "He smiled at me!".  We just started laughing.

Thanks for the replies, 

Charlie

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From: 275s@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Wendy Bortnick)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: MICHELLE DUNCAN PLEASE ANSWER THIS
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:54:49 GMT
Reply-To: 275s@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Wendy Bortnick)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD



Hi Michelle,

I deleted your letter you sent me and wrote you a letter back but I
went to smsg and realized the email address on your letter does not
work unless I forward from your letter.  Next time I won't delete your
letter until I write back and forward it.

Wendy
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From: rasmussenc@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu
Subject: Question regarding cost of registering a litter 
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:27:14 GMT

Can anyone tell me how much it costs a breeder to register a litter of 
puppies?  (AKC)  

The reason I am asking is because my friend is a breeder and is "giving"
me one of the puppies, and she mentioned that the "blue papers" had arrived 
the other day.  I am wondering if she is having to fork out a lot of money 
to get them registered and if I should at least offer to help out with that 
cost.  (The last time I got a puppy, I only had to pay the AKC a $7 transfer 
fee....)

Thanks in advance!  

-Chris R
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From: Desiree_Bradley@mindlink.bc.ca (Desiree Bradley)
Subject: Re: Re: An Anti-Dog Trend Coming?
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:41:32 GMT

> Diane Bassett writes:
> Msg-ID: <64640028@hpcss01.cup.hp.com>
>
> I am both a landlord and a responsible pet owner, and I allow my tenants to
> have pets.  But they have to meet my stringent rules, and they pay an extra
> security deposit.  So far, it's been very successful.
>


You are an honourable exception to what seems to be the rule.  On the other
hand, I'll take an optimistic outlook and hope that you are on the cutting
edge of a new trend.

Desiree Bradley
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From: dorff@granite.ma30.bull.com (Laurie A. Dorff)
Subject: golden retrievers
Organization: Bull HN Informations Systems Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:23:24 GMT

Hi all!

I will be buying a golden retriever puppy in the spring (when
the weather is a little warmer for a new puppy).  I have a few
questions left (after reading several books on dogs and puppies.)

First, one breeder has recommended Eukaneba (sp?) dog food for
goldens.  Do they make a special puppy food, or just an adult
dog food?  If they don't, should I use a puppy food until the
puppy is bigger, and then switch to Eukaneba?

Second, I have a list of breeders in my area (from the Golden
Retriever Club).  (I live in eastern Mass.)  Can anyone recommend
one in particular?  I don't know much about any of them yet - I
have just begun to call some of them and ask about breeding
schedules.

Third, a friend is going to help me build a dog house for this
dog.  We are working on the dimensions and shape.  Any suggestions
for dog houses which keep in heat well in the winter and are
less drafty?  The dog (male) will eventually be about 75 - 85
pounds and about 2 feet high at the withers (shoulders).

Fourth, any suggestions for leashes that work well when jogging
with a dog?  Some of the roads near my house are very quiet with
not much traffic.  I also have access to miles of paths through
the woods.  But a few of the roads are more trafficky and will
require a shorter leash.

Fifth, I live about 1/2 mile from a resevoir, where dogs and
swimming are allowed :).  Will frequent swimming harm the
dog or his coat in any way?

Well, I have lots more questions, but I don't want to overload
anyone.  If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know!
Meanwhile, my research continues.........

Thanks!!!

-Lauri

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From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Subject: Attention Training
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:09:38 GMT

As you may know, I get a new pup in 9 weeks :) I'd like to hear methods from
you obedience people out there for beginning to teach attentiveness to a
puppy.
Thanks!


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From: robins@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Robin Scheiderer)
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 21:47:30 GMT
Subject: Re: Dalmations
Organization: HP Intelligent Networks Operation
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

Dal's do have high deafness incedence. There is a test, BAER, Brainstem
Audio Electronic Responce (something like that) that will determine the
hearing of the puppies. There are not that many locations that do the
test (Sacramento,CA and someplace near LA are the only 2 in CA that my
breader knew of). Each pup gets a certificate to show hearing range.
Most litters (according to my breeder) usually have one or 2 pups with
a problem - deaf in one or both ears.

The kidney problem: they are suseptible to kidney stones. My breeder
highly recomends a low protien (20% or less) diet. 

They shed, alot, year round, short hard hair (it can prick you if it
gets into your cloths). White and black hair.

But,
They have alot of energy, but the walks help my waist line too.
They are good guard dogs (I've never had to test this, but can name
several people who have experienced this)
They are funny, goofy love to play with you friends
They are trainable, maybe not the easiest, but not the hardest either.
They are loyal, my dal likes to be in the same room as me, although the
fireplace gets alot of loyalty too. :)

I love my Dal. :)
RobinS and Banjo
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From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Subject: Re: Puppies Born!
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:56:03 GMT

> Ruth Ginzberg writes:
> In <19472@mindlink.bc.ca> Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca writes:
> > I just got a call from the breeder, my future Schnauzer baby was born on
> > Friday! Four boys and three girls, all 11.5oz! I get to see them in four
> > weeks...this is gonna be the longest 9 weeks in history :)
>
> Congrats!  What are you getting, male or female?


Thanks :) I'm getting a female who will probably turn out to be show quality,
although I don't care if she is, just that the breeder wants me to show her
if she is. I already have a name for her...it's HARD thinking of names for
female dogs, I can think of a million for males :( I was originally going to
get a male, but I changed my mind...

I'm planning to name her Shaedi, pronounced "shady". Registered names I have
in mind are:

                Silver Shade                 Lady Shaedi

Lady Shady was a character in a graphic novel (like a comic book but with
better artwork) called "Moonshadow".

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