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From: Frank2.Simon@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Frank2 'Biber' Simon)
Subject: SBPro without MIDI-Kit ? 
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:16:42 GMT

I just bought a SBPro to sequence with my external MIDI-keyboard.
I didn't buy the SB but the Pro because of its default MIDI-kit (?)
and the default Sequencer software (Voyetra) (?).
And now the big disaster:
On my sent package the following is said:
	Soundblaster Pro

       Basic package (not including Midi-kit and Sequencer Software)

Now the important question:
Is the dealer who sent me this "basic package" right and doesn't contain
the whole Midi-kit to the SBPro or am I right (then I would send it back
to buy from another dealer).

There is no versionnumber on the package, nothing that let me know about
the outcoming date (unfortunately)

Please e-mail me any information about the standard SBPro and the with it
sent accessories.

Thanks in advance

Frank
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From: cwatters@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Coyt D Watters)
Subject: Re: GUS and other Soundboard Pricing
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:06:40 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.170223.29376@radian.uucp> bryanm@natasha.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Bryan Mau) writes:
>
>   Roughly how much does a GUS cost?  (street value)  I haven't seen Gravis or any other company that carries it in Computer Shopper (or at least I have'nt seen one).  Can't anybody reccommend a company that carries it (CompUSA, EggHead, etc...)?
>
>Please e-mail replies!  Thanks!

Well, I decied to post B^):

I bought (or should I say my wife bought) my GUS from Disk Count for $128 + $4
s/h (UPS 2nd day).

The local ELECTRONICS BOTIQUE carries the GUS in stock at $161.  Of course they
DO have to pay the rent in the nice mall.

If you have an OPTI chipset, be sure to find a dealer who will let you return 
it if there is a compatibility problem.  Some OPTI machines don't handle the
GUS very well.

-Coyt



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From: ylee@norton.uwaterloo.ca (Yuri Lee)
Subject: Re: Emagic Soundcard (Ensoniq)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:57:20 GMT

In article <1ge332INNqor@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bx955@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Todd Glazier) writes:
>
>I was leafing through the January Keyboard Magazine and saw an ad for the
>Emagic Soundcard, which is the one being distributed (and designed, although
>they take only dist credits) by Ensoniq.  As it's been mentioned, this
>card uses a simlar chipset to the GUS, as the GUS is based on the Ensoniq
>chipset.  It's sposed to be directed more at the pro musician, but the added
>sound proecessing abilities and Soundblaster Pro Hardware Compatibility I
>think would make it an ideal ameteur digital studio, and fine game card...
>if you know what i mean.:-) (and the several megs of memory you can load it up
>with.)
>
>I've been thinking about starting an Emagic mailing list....email if you think
>that'd be cool.  IT IS NOT A SUBSCRIPTION...just let me know if your cool with
>it. This would be for folx interested in the Emagic soundcard, not just
>the chipset....if it was the chipset..there about 10 different cards we'd be
>talking about (all in development.)

Last I heard that Ensoniq decided not to get into PC sound card business after
all. Are you sure about this ( Emagic soundcard ) ??


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From: markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN)
Subject: Re: GUS publicity ....  NOT !
Organization: Universite de Moncton
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 00:06:49 GMT

In article <Bz22tE.25K@techbook.com> roc@techbook.com (Ron Christian) writes:
>From: roc@techbook.com (Ron Christian)
>Subject: Re: GUS publicity ....  NOT !
>Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 18:17:20 GMT

>In article <1992Dec8.093507@cs.utwente.nl> waardenb@cs.utwente.nl (Jerry van Waardenberg) writes:
>>BTW: The importer of the GUS in the Netherlands said that 1 MB will become the
>>standard amount of RAM very soon. Are there people who still use 256 kB???

>I hope not.  Programmers tend to program to the lowest common
>denominator.  Let's try to convince them that there's no market
>for products that don't take advantage of GUS memory over 256K.


	Unfortunatly, 256K is quite small if you want to create a nice music 
with high quality patches (16 bit, 44.1 KHz).  It is way too small.  I _had_ 
to upgrade mine to 1Meg 'cause I couldn't play some MIDI files and it turned 
out that those MIDI files were the best ones with lots of instruments.
	I'd like to know what kind of sampling rate Accolade used for Star 
Control II.  It sounds like they used 8 bit sampling because they have quite 
a lot of instruments in their musics for 256K.  In that case, 256K would be 
acceptable.  But what is a game company wants nothing but the best 
soundtrack for their games with 16 bit/44.1 KHz samples?  Not much memory to 
play with.
	My recommendation: Upgrade to 1Meg.  It's cheap, fast & easy to do 
by yourself.  Then you'll be safe if a game requires a 1Meg GUS.  I did it 
and I don't regret it. 6 * 44C256 DRAM chips.  I upgraded my GUS for under 
$30.
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From: gting@fraser.sfu.ca (Gabriel Sii Kuok Ting)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Gravis UltraSound: Two Questions
Date: 20 Dec 92 04:20:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: sfu.gting.724825232
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

daa7365@tamuts.tamu.edu (Diego A. Aranda) writes:

>In article <gting.724799477@sfu.ca> gting@fraser.sfu.ca (Gabriel Sii Kuok Ting) writes:

>>You might want to just keep the SB just for compatibility's sake with
>>some of the SB games that doesn't sound too good with the current version
>>of sbos. It is possible for both cards to coexist, you know.

>Really?  I had no idea - the manual states somewhat explicitly that owners
>of SoundBlasters and Adlibs must remove the cards prior to installing the
>GUS.  I'll give it a try though - it certainly will be nice if it works.

There's been quite a number of people on the net who've tried and succeeded.
Just make sure that the IRQ, DMA and port addresses of the two cards don't
clash. There might be some bugs still. Some people have reported that certain
games won't recognise the SB until SBOS is loaded and then de-installed. 

>BTW, thanks again for the Gravis phone number and the internet address.

Most welcome.

>Diego


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From: jel@kingddb.be.statoil.no (Jan Erik Larsen)
Subject: SB16 / MPU401 mode HEEELP!!!!!
Keywords: SB16
Reply-To: jel@kingddb.be.statoil.no (Jan Erik Larsen)
Organization: Statoil
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 11:12:25 GMT

I Just got my new SB16, which I bought for the MPU401 compatibility on
the MIDI interface.

I just can't seem to get the MPU401 mode to work correctly, the machine hangs
if any software tries to use it (BAND-IN-THE-BOX etc...)

There is no hardware conflict, I use IRQ 5 , I/O 220h and 300h DMA 1 and 6
(I cant use the default value for I/O address of the MIDI port because I
use an ADAPTEC 1542B controller...)

The SB16TEST.EXE runs just fine withount any complaints, but any
software that tries to use the MIDI port hangs the machine. (The
software is able to use different I/O adresses for the MPU MIDI port so
it shouldn't be any problem.)

I Use the MIDI kit with cables that came with my SBPro.

Sound Blaster MIDI compatibility works just fine with my SB16, but why
does'nt this Fu...ing SB16 MPU401 compatibility work ?????


PLEASE HELP ME ANYONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jan Erik.
From: coleman@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Michael A. Coleman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: When will multichannel get equal time?
Date: 19 Dec 92 19:38:06 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <168BEC144.NETOPRBL@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu> NETOPRBL@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu (Christopher Lane) writes:
>What the title says.
>Why is it that every sound card company out there (except for Soundblaster)
>completely alienates PS/2 users? (please avoid such flame-bait as "ps/2's
>aren't worthy/are pieces of junk/are IBM propaganda" I really don't want
>editorial comments from the peanut gallery)
>And why in gods name charge double the price for them?
>Are they actually able to do MORE than the EISA boards or are we just
>suppose to bend over becuase we have a true-blue?
> 
>I guess I'm writing this out of frustration.  In truth I'd love to
>put a sound card in my machine (a model 70 w/ 386/20mhz) but I refuse to
>pay out the nose for something that's :
>a) pretty much substandard to current technology (SBpro just isn't as good
>as some of the newer boards...and
>b)does nothing more than the EISA boards (sorry PS/2 doesn't equal money bags,
>despite the cost of the basic machine)
> 
>Anyone got a rational answer? Any company reps out there wanna make me feel
>less forgotten?
> 
>Blue and Forgotten

	I too was a Big Blue owner until recently.  I had both a SB MCV and
an SB PRO MCV .  They are expensive, and IBM just gives an "...uuuuuh..."
when you press them on this.  The only MCA feature of the cards were the
"microchannel bus timeouts" that locked the machine when I started Windows.
(I have been informed that this has been corrected recently, although I have no
direct proof.)  This is why IBM has to cut 65k jobs in two years.  IBM 
likes those big corporate accounts that can pay $1800 for an 80 MB drive
(source: IBM HelpCenter, summer 1992).  They don't care about the students
or the faculty that are suckered into buying the machines at educational 
prices.

	My 55sx was DOA when I purchased it 2 years ago.  It took IBM 6 weeks
to get it working.    This, combined with the sb debacle, has made me resolve
never to buy anything that says IBM on it ever again.  There are no stores that
sell PS/2 products to the public now that ComputerLand has closed their
retail services (at least in San Antonio, the nations #9 city).  I am sorry
that you have problems finding MCA devices.  We can only hope that someone
at IBM wakes up real fast.

	If you have any questions feel free to e-mail
	Michael Coleman
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From: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Subject: Re: Will these RAM chips work on my GUS?
Reply-To: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:39:01 GMT

In article <MORGAN.92Dec16150001@dl5000.bc.edu> morgan@dl5000.bc.edu (Morgan Stair) writes:
>
>   I'd like to upgrade my GUS to 1 meg of RAM just for the heck of it,
>   and was wondering if the chips from my ol' XT will work.  I don't want
>   to blow up my Ultrasound right after I got it, I'd like to wait a year
>   or two :)   Here's a picture of a typical RAM chip on it:
>
>	   _/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_
>	  |  ---+--- JAPAN 8616ACK     |
>	  |     |                      |
>	   )    |                      |
>	  |     |    TMN41256P-15      |
>	  |_  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _|
>	    \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/
>
>I don't thinks so.  The -15 almost certainly means 150ns.  You need
>100's (-10) or less.  I put 6 80ns chips for $4 apiece.  Check in the
>back of computer shopper.  I don't know what the 41 stands for, but I
>know 44256 are 4bitx256K chips (which is what you need).

	Yeah, those are definitely 150 ns chips.

The 41256 is a 256 x 1 chip (ie. 8 chips to 256 k), whereas the 256x4
chips is 2 chips per 256k, 8 chips to a meg.

I guess I'm lucky, my current ram cards uses 256 x 4 chips... :)

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From: ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
Subject: Re: SB16 Released at Last!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:43:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.180622.15575@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com> c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:
>
>Gee, the intellectual level of USENET is way down. Thank G*d for the
>Christmas vacation...
>
>Well, Mr. Catullus, if they taught you anything in Wesleyan, was it that
>emulation is never a good solution? It consumes CPU, memory, etc. 
>
>90% success for a commercial product means 10% failure. That's about in
>par with the SCUD missile in my book. 
>

Spiros, the GUS does not depend on SB emulation for its survival.  It's
a wavetable card that sounds incredibly better than the SB or SBPro or
PAS-16 can ever hope to sound.  However, since it is a new card, there
isn't a lot of support for it yet, while there are tons of software
that supports the SB already available.  The GUS's SB emulation will
allow owners to make use of about 90% of that huge collection of SB software
while waiting for direct GUS support.

>And I'd still like an explanation of why 50% of the games will have a
>bug that would render them unplayable... 
>
>I am not against logitech/gravis; I own a joystick and a mouse from them
>and they're super. But the Gravis must rank up there with the best of them
>when it comes to releasing a product on time, hyping it, and, most
>important, in generating the most "GUS beats XXXX even if it's all software"
>messages.

The GUS isn't "all software".  It has relatively advanced hardware for
wavetable synthesis.  Only its SB emulation is software-based.

Phat.
From: captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Any .WAV player run under DOS ?
Keywords: WAV
Date: 13 Dec 92 11:57:37 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1g2v72INNaka@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong) writes:
>If you have an Ultrasound, the playfile program can play all sorts of
>different sound files including .wav files (and .voc and .snd.....etc).
>So you can use it directly without conversion.

Hmmmm.  Apparently playfile works on SOME .voc files, but not others, and
it makes clicking noises on the ones I've tried to play.  Has anyone else
had any luck playing SB .voc files on the GUS?  


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From: aa339@Freenet.carleton.ca (Etienne Tasse)
Subject: Re: Windows 3.1 Covox/LPT DAC Driver (1/1)
Reply-To: aa339@Freenet.carleton.ca (Etienne Tasse)
Organization: The National Capital Freenet
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 02:55:08 GMT


In a previous article, jaska@stekt5.oulu.fi (Jaakko Heikkil{) says:

>In article <1fjaaqINNg1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cj337@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Etienne Tasse) writes:
>> Here is a Sound WAV driver for Windows 3.1 for:
>> -  Covox Speech Thing
>> -  Digital to Analog Homebrew (DAC08/ZN428/R2R) connected to Printer Port
>
>> Enjoy!
>
>Great! But I havent't yet found instructions for building Covox. Where
>I can found it? How about DAC? Any information available? Please tell
>me for examble an issue of some magazine where I can read more about
>those sound"cards".


The "R-2R" schematic can be found with Mark J Cox's MODPLAY PRO (MP219B.ZIP)
Here it is in ASCII format.

    3. HOW TO MAKE AN EVEN CHEAPER D/A
    ----------------------------------
 
    For the price of 20 1% resistors and a plug, with no power supply
    needed you can make a D/A converter that sounds close to the IC
    one above (it seems only the UK can get a Plessey ZN426E)
 
    You need one plug for your amp, one for your parallel port and
    9 20k and 9 10K resistors
    Use 1% resistors if possible  and 20k sound much better than 22k
 
 
   20    2     3     4     5     6     7     8     9    <-  DB25 Pin #
   GND   D0    D1    D2    D3    D4    D5    D6    D7   <-  Signal Name
   |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     
   |     R2    R2    R2    R2    R2    R2    R2    R2
   |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
   |     |_R1__|_R1__|_R1__|_R1__|_R1__|_R1__|_R1__|_R1____C1_ +
   |     |                                              |
   |     R2                                             R1    TO AMP
   |_____|______________________________________________|_____ - 
 
	R1 = 10K 1%
	R2 = 20K 1%
	C1 = 100nF

     Thanks to Harry Stox for the above circuit.  Again, make sure all
     the 0v lines are connected together.  The 100nF capacitor may not
     be needed, try removing it if this circuit sounds poor.
 
HARDWARE.DOC (c) Mark J Cox
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From: c580503@mugcnx12.mugcnx1.missouri.edu (ALBERT FOO)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Creative Labs/Technology (news)
Date: 16 Dec 1992 22:54:13 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
X-Unparseable-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 22:54:04 GMT-0600

Here's a little tidbits about the Soundblaster card.

Except from SIF thru gopher
---------------------------

(1)  * Creative Technology wins Sound Blaster trademark *      
                                           (ST, 9 DEC 92)

     Creative Technology has won a court ruling to prevent its
former German distributor from selling a different type of sound
cards under  Creative's well-known Sound Blaster and Video
Blaster brand names.

     The Hamburg High Court ruled on December 2 that CPS
Computing Distribution GmbH could not use the Creative's
trademarks. It also stopped CPS from selling counterfeit Sound
Blaster  and Video Blaster products. According to a Creative
spokesman, the Singapore-based company had also been awarded
costs. 

     Creative Technology is the first and only Singapore company
to be listed on the Nasdaq in the United States. It produced a
net profit of US$20.2 million on a turnover of US$85.8 million
during its financial year ended June.

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From: markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN)
Subject: Re: Sbos!=SBPRO
Organization: Universite de Moncton
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:19:16 GMT

In article <BzB5EA.Bo@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran) writes:
>From: ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
>Subject: Re: Sbos!=SBPRO
>Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:51:45 GMT

>In article <1992Dec13.192134.19886@sfu.ca> mtichy@fraser.sfu.ca (Martin Tichy) writes:
>>> Well, what I heard is each of 32 voice channels on GUS is
>>> independently pannable. And SBOS is based on small chunks of
>>> sampled wave forms and I *THINK*
>> 
>>Definitely the GUS has 32 independently pannable voices but just
>>because they are independently pannable doesn't make them stereo, at
>>least IMO.
>>

>If the GUS has 32 independently pannable voices , which now seems to be 
>the case, then we can place 32 voices anywhere between right and left.  
>I think that qualifies for 32 voice stereo.


	Wrong.  The 32 voices are not pannable.  They can be put right _or_ 
left but they stay mono.  The 16 stereo voices however _are_ pannable into 
15 different positions.
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            /     (__(_/|__) )__/(__   \_/__(_/|__)\_)__/\__)__) <_ 
                    Markus on QuartzPARADISE and AfterFive
                            (506)855-4974 - Canada
+---------------------------------------------+-----------------------------+
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|     For Talk:  8900795@info.umoncton.ca     |  another kingdom.  For that |
|---------------------------------------------+  which I leave is too small |
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From: sts@mfltd.co.uk (Steve Sherwood)
Subject: Re: Sbos!=SBPRO
Reply-To: sts@mfltd.co.uk
Organization: Micro Focus Ltd, Newbury, England
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:48:20 GMT

In article <If=oh_u00WBL81hJgV@andrew.cmu.edu>, Philip Andrew Nemec <blackdiamond+@CMU.EDU> writes:
|> Okay - here are some specs from the developer's toolkit...
|> 
|> * 8 or 16 bit playback.  Stereo and Monophonic.
|> * 8 it recording.  Stereo and Monophonic.
|> * Playback and recording rates up to 441.1 kHz.
                                        ^^^^^^^^^
                                  Wow!! All we need now is a couple
                                  of gigs of memory to store the samples in !


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From: chetc@resumix.portal.com (Chester L. Cuaresma)
Subject: Which OPTi chipset works with GUS?
Organization: Resumix Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 05:57:49 GMT

I've heard that some people have gotten their GUS to work with certain
versions of the OPTi chipset.  My question is, which versions are
'compatible' with GUS?

I have a 386/40 with the following OPTi chips:

	OPTi HiD/386 AT chipset:
		82c391 System Controller (SYSC)
		82c392 Data Buffer Controller

Will these chips work with the GUS (I hope so!)?  I really would like
to buy a GUS...

					Chet C.
					chetc@resumix.portal.com
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