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From: IMAGING.CLUB@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Imaging Club")
Subject: Re: Novell vs Lan Manager
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:15:21 GMT

Minh Tran at University of Melbourne Computer Sciences asks
for a comparison of Novell and Lan Manager:

We would suggest you read the October 15 Network Computing
issue with their comparison of NOSs, including these two.
Since your airmail address is not indicated in your
postings, I am airmailing you a copy via the Wang Melbourne
headquarters.  Please give Sharon Matthews a call next week
at 3 615 3111 to pick up your copy.  I'll be happy to air
mail copies out to other interested people from here.

Michael.Willett@OFFICE.Wang.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: Mark_Muhlestein@Novell.COM (Mark Muhlestein)
Subject: Re: Security Patches - How Secure???     
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:01:39 GMT

Brett Frankenburger asks a good question regarding the security
patches, namely, is the user protected against someone monitoring the
entire session.

The simple answer is yes.  The session key is based on the password,
which is known by both the the user and the server but never
transmitted on the wire.  The packets are signed using the MD4 message
digest algorithm, encrypted with the session key.  This produces a
"checksum" which provides a very high level of confidence in the
authenticity of the sender.

I hope this helps.
--
Mark_Muhlestein@novell.com
From: streb@ee.rochester.edu (Chuck S.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Need Help making NET !!!
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:03:31 GMT
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science

I am installing a network which includes IBM's and MAC's
I can get Novell at discount because in University.
I have been told mac don't run under novell ... but
I see by comments on net that it may. 
what is a good hub to consider and what are the Good ibm card
out there. I beleive I need a 10base-t we are using twisted pair.
thanks in advance
chuck

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From: AWP00JTF@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Macs on Novell - software question
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:29:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: UNCCVM.168A8CBE1.AWP00JTF
Organization: UNC Charlotte

Just another quick Mac on Novell question:  With both Macs and DOS machines
on a Novell network, must we install both Mac and DOS versions of, say,
WordPerfect - and is that a problem?  Thanks - Judy
From: mll@lysator.liu.se (Thomas Danielson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: NW3.11 crashes when INSTALL.NLM is loaded
Date: 18 Nov 92 13:30:13 GMT
Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Society, Linkoping University, Sweden

When I try to load the INSTALL.NLM after that I have done a 
REMOVE DOS our server just hangs.  The screen goes blank and all
connections are lost.  A hard reboot seems to be the only way to get
the server back up running again..  Scary.  I have tried to remove all
non-standard NLM's but no success.  We are in a university environment so
I sure would like to have DOS removed.  Any suggestions?

Our setup:
ICL FX486/33 EISA running Netware 3.11 and NW4Mac

/Thomas Danielson
 Supervisor/ISLAND
 mll@lysator.liu.se
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: hughbria@ux1.isu.edu (Brian Hughes)
Subject: Work Group Manager?
Organization: Idaho State University, Pocatello
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:07:43 GMT

Hi Everyone,

I would like to make one user a workgroup manager for many other
users and was wondering if there was any method of doing that 
other then syscon?

Thanks in Advance,
Brian Hughes---hughbria@isu.edu
From: ctoomey@ccvax.ucd.ie
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Mirroring under 3.11 Questions [repost]
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:24:24 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

After seeing someone else mention mirroring/duplexing, I have a question with
regard to `mirroring' to 2 different drive channels under NetWare 3.11 [i.e.
`duplexing.']

We have a NetWare 3.11 server, with 2 x 535Mb IDE drives, duplexed using the
NCL America 525 host adapter, that provides 2 seperate IDE channels from one
16-bit card (so, you load the disk driver twice, with different Int and Port
settings.)

For those of you who may have missed the point: you CANNOT `mirror'
successfully using IDE drive (that is, 2 IDE drives in the Master & Slave
position on the one channel [say, that Compaq Deskpro server you have with 2 of
their Conner drives...])  If the master drive fails, then slave is `lost'
without it's master.  If the slave fails, the OS will set the master looking
for the slave.  In either case, your server dies - trust me, I've seen it:  the
server for the catering department of the national airline, no less [probably
saved some lives, that :-D]

Anyhow, I digress..  I installed said host adapter, and tested the server by
brute force [unplugging drives], and all worked fine.  The Tech. Support
department in the company that I worked for has a Systempro with the Compaq
Intelligent Drive Array (the old one, not the new one, pity..)  When a drive
fails, the IDA_MON.NLM broadcasts a message to selected users, groups about the
drive having failed.  What I'm wondering is:

1)	Does there exist a utility to send a broadcast message, on failure of
	a drive under NetWare 3.11's native mirroring/duplexing.  In the case
	in question, the server will be locked in a cabinet with database
	server, access server, repeater, UPS etc. etc., and people won't
	normally be viewing the console screen.

2)	Also, is there any way to see what % of the REMIRRoring process is
	complete, as you have to just sit there and guess.

3)	Finally, is there any way to speed up the REMIRRORing process, i.e.
	instead of it doing it all quietly in the `background' is there any
	way to get it to blast ahead, taking as much resources as it 
	requires, after I turf off all users.

Questions, questions, questions...

Cheers,

	- Colm Toomey -
	B.Sc.(Hons.)
	Graduate Student in Comp. Sci.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: Christian.Andretzky@MB3.TU-Chemnitz.DE (Christian Andretzky)
Subject: new PSERVER.NLM - which of the 3 version numbers is right ???
Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 12:28:46 GMT

Hi,
I just try to install the new packet signature feature on one of our servers  
for testing (and couldn't get it to work - but this is another story)
Included in this package is a new print server .nlm also. Checking the new  
print server I had to switch between some of our file servers with pconsole and  
with rconsole so I could see a very unpleasant thing on the new pserver.nlm: 
- if I have a look on the console, pserver has the version 1.27
- if I use pconsole, the same pserver has the version 1.2.2
- finally, if I dump pserver.nlm the well-known 'VeRsIoN'-string says 1.23
Ok, it seems to work - as far as this can be said after some hours of testing -  
but I think its a really pain to have such oddities especially in a large and  
heterogenous environment.
BTW, the current (now old) version - which version number shall i use ?? also  
has the same problem. (1.22 and 1.23 internal, pconsole says 1.2.2)
I think, it would be very helpful for all of us, if Novell could have more  
clarity in such little things.

Cheers, Christian
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From: ebazergh@gmuvax.gmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Looking for QBNW-20.ZIP
Date: 22 Nov 92 23:27:58 -0500
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, VA.

Hello,

Could someone tell me where I can FTP a copy of David Rice's QuickBasic
Netware library? The filename of the file is 'QBNW-20.ZIP'.

Any ideas? Please respond via E-mail, since we are having problems with
our newsfeed at this site which makes news items arrive here over a week
later... Thanks for your understanding!

Eric Bazerghi
ebazergh@gmuvax.gmu.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: ters@teal.csn.org (Terry Smith)
Subject: MUXPRC?
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:26:08 GMT

A teacher in our school district has a Novell network that is running
ARCNET.  The file server is an IBM PS@/80 and there are 10 workstations
on the net.  For quite some time, her network has suffered a re-curring
problem that no one seems to know how to fix.  For some unknown reason,
the entire system will shut down and, on the file server monitor, the
message:  RUNNING PROCESS MUXPRC appears.  To get the system operational,
it must be totally shut down and re-started.

Does anyone know:
1.  What does the message RUNNING PROCESS MUXPRC mean?
2.  What causes this problem?
3.  How to avoid this problem?
4.  Anyone else who might be able to help?

Thanks in advance for any help/advice!  bcnu, ters

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.misc,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.admin
From: tdphette@mke.ab.com (Thad Phetteplace x4461)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: PC/NFS vs Netware (and Vines, and ...)
Organization: Allen-Bradley Co.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:37:16 GMT

marquis@netcom.com (Roger Marquis) writes:
: 
: Any reasonable comparison of PC networkOSs wouldn't be complete
: without looking at Banyan Vines as well as Novell and PC/NFS.  I migrated
: a large department (100 nodes) from PC/NFS to Vines in about 2 weeks and 
: found that administration time was about 1/8th what it had been.  Vines 
: global naming (StreeTalk) makes managing 100s of users easy.  Novell is 
: excellent for fewer than 3 servers or 200 users.  Any large network 
: though is much easier to manage under Vines than anything else on the 
: market.  This is verified in a study by the BRG (Business Research Group) 
: which looked at Banyan, Novell, LAN Manager and Pathworks.  They found 
: Vines networks need fewer administrators per user by a good margin.  
: I manage both Sun and Vines networks (the 2 best, IMHO) and find each has 
: its roll.  I also find that I have much less downtime and more 
: functionality (email especially) than my friends who manage Netware, 
: PC/NFS, AIX and especially Mac networks.
: 
: Roger (marquis@netcom.com)

I'll second that oppinion.  We are in the process of putting a Banyan
network in place here at Allen-Bradley.  I find it much easier to deal
with then PC/NFS or Novel.

--
Thad Phetteplace
Network Systems Analyst, Allen-Bradley Co.
Phone: (414)382-4461
Email: tdphette@mke.ab.com

The opinions expressed here are entirely my own and not that of my employer.
I am not a slob, I am simply doing an experiment in domestic entropy!

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: alan@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Alan Strassberg)
Subject: Re: CCmail-SMTP gateway recommendations
Organization: Lockheed Santa Cruz, CA.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 19:39:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.151409.6675@iex.uucp> hancock@iex.UUCP (David Hancock) writes:

>I have a 3.11 server running Novell's NFS.  I need a method to pass mail
>between the cc:mail users on netware to the Unix mail users (SMTP).  I am
>aware (conscious, anyway :-) of Novell's gateway stuff, and cc:mail's product.
>Does anyone have other suggestions?

	There's a free gateway at monk.proteon.com (complete with
	source) but I understand it requires some assembly. If you
	check it out, report back. I believe the file is SMTPGW.EXE 
	(self-extracting).

				alan
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alan@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com
Lockheed Santa Cruz, California
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: donp@novell.com (don provan)
Subject: Re: TCP/IP
Organization: Novell, Inc., San Jose, California
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 10:26:39 GMT

In article <By0903.EwJ@hpwin052.uksr.hp.com> peterb@hpber010.swiss.hp.com (Peter Baumann) writes:
> I have a Unix machine and I want connect over Rlogin , Telnet Ftp a.s.o to
> the Server ...

What exactly do you expect to happen when you Telnet or rlogin to a
file server?

> How is it to setup the server as a TCP/IP Server ???
> How can I specify the Server IP-Adress ??
> How about NFS ??? Is it possible to use ???

NetWare v3.11 comes with a manual called something like "TCP/IP
Supervisor's Guide".  (One of the "skinny" manuals, as someone
recently so politely put it.)  That might answer some of your
questions.  NetWare v3.11 doesn't come with any of the standard
services you're thinking about (the only service provided with NetWare
v3.11 is SNMP), but Novell sells two add-on products for NetWare to
fill your needs: Flex/IP, which contains FTP, print services, and some
other stuff like that, and NetWare NFS which packages NFS along with
pretty much the same services found in Flex/IP.
						don provan
						donp@novell.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: dseeman@novell.com (Daniel Seeman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: NIC CARDS -work with system 7 ?
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:35:46 GMT
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia

In article <1992Nov23.165217.18145@ee.rochester.edu> streb@ee.rochester.edu (Chuck S.) writes:
>Do NIC card work when using system 7 on the novell tbase-10? 
>
>what novell software will allow this to work?
>
>Please answer ,I am not get response from group.
>
>thanks chuck    help!

Please re-state your question.  At this point, the answer is so obvious that I
think I must be missing the question.

Yes, network interface cards have drivers that will work with System 7.  The
NetWare file server's NICs have nothing to do with the Macintosh's OS.

Those answers were too simple.  What bit of information from your question am I
missing?

Think Peace...

Dan Seeman
Novell
Walnut Creek, Ca.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: ashah@eos.ncsu.edu (the cool dude ;-))
Subject: Re: HELP with TRUSTEE RIGHTS !!
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 06:59:41 GMT

In article <5959@balrog.ctron.com>, bellivea@olympus.ctron.com writes:
|> 
|> 
|> 
|>   Hello,
|> 
|>     Does anyone know the correct trustee settings (if there is one)
|>   to allow a user to use an application in a certian directory but not
|>   allow them to copy it to there hard disks. I'm starting to have a problem
|>   with users making their own copies. I haven't had alot of time to
|>   experiment with the trustee rights and was hoping someone could just
|>   fill me in.
|>                 Thanks for reading,
|>                                    Alan Belliveau
|>                                    bellivea@ctron.com
|>                                    Cabletron Systems Inc.

How about marking those (hopefully) .EXE files with
the E attribute but do this ONLY if you have backup
			    ^^^^   
copies of those files or else it will be a B I G problem.

The E option does not allow ANYONE - not even the SUPERVISOR
to copy/rename those files - so BE CAREFUL.

Ajay
From: alanchem@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Alan Scott Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Printing question
Date: 17 Nov 1992 21:57:25 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: alanchem@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

Here is what I'd like to be able to do.  Let me know if it is possible.

I have at the present time three workstations connected to the fileserver
and running NetWare 3.11.  I have one printer connected to my workstation.
Is it possible to configure this printer as a remote printer...without
having my workstation a dedicated print server????

In other words, is it possible to printer to a local printer from
another workstation while someone is logged onto that printer's workstation.

Thanks -

- Alan

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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 23 Nov 1992 20:56:56 EST
From: Andrew T. Robinson <ANDY@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Hilfe! Problems with 3.11 & OS/2 2.0 requester

I'm having a few problems with a Novell 3.11 file server and primarily
OS/2 2.0 workstations--mostly related to setting up remote printing.

1. CAPTURE seems to preserve the first LOGIN name used after the machine
   is booted across login sessions as the print separator name.  I.e., if
   I login as USER1, then as USER2, anything USER2 prints will come out
   with the name "USER1" across the top.  Only rebooting seems to clear
   this condition, and I don't consider that a reasonable solution.

2. RPRINTER (as provided with the OS/2 workstation kit) does not allow
   the user of a remote printer workstation to CAPTURE the same port
   the printer is attached to--or rather, doing so results in a
   recursive discussion between the OS/2 queue driving the captured
   port and the Novell queue trying to feed the remote printer.

   Previously, we were able to set up a remote printer (albeit using
   the LANSPOOL VAP on our 2.15 server) and then users could log in
   and CAPTURE the same port the printer was using to whatever location
   they desired--and remote printing continued to work.

3.  Connections to OS/2 workstations never clear according to MONITOR,
    unless they are cleared forcefully or the workstation is rebooted.
    This leads to a lot of clutter on the "connections" display and I'm
    wondering if it's related to problem 1.

Any help would be most appreciated!!

Andy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: taber@SunofInterlan.Interlan.COM (Bruce Taber)
Subject: Re: NDIS driver for NI5210
Organization: Racal Datacom, Inc., Boxborough, MA (1-800-LAN-TALK)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:48:41 GMT

Yes, from Racal Datacom - call 1 (800) LAN-TALK (526-8255).

BT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: ashah@eos.ncsu.edu (the cool dude ;-))
Subject: Re: New Security Documents Wrong????
Followup-To: ashah@eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: comp.sys.novell,bit.listserv.novell
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 03:03:09 GMT

In article <By5D8v.456@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, kellmeye@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (kellmeyer steven l) writes:
|> Ummm, guys?  I loaded that new security set, you know SECUT?.EXE and
|> the rest and, well, if the NET.CFG signature level is set to 0 and
|> the server level is 3, I can log in just fine.
|> 
|> However, if I set the NET.CFG signature level to 3 and keep the server
|> leve at 3, my access is denied in a heartbeat.
|> 
|> Mayhap the security document that got distributed is just a WEEEE bit 
|> incorrect?  Makes me wonder what the correct table of signature 
|> effects is.....  I sure don't want to down my server a dozen times 
|> just to find out.  Could anyone at Novell who might be listening
|> please tell me what's up?
|> 
|> I bet those guys in documentation have red faces ....  :)
|> 
|> Steve
|> -- 
|> 
|> Steve Kellmeyer 
|> kellmeye@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu

Hi,

Could you PLEASE elaborate more on these
documents and also a BIT more on the
NET.CFG signature line.

Thanx much.
Ajay.
From: petej@itcode.Eng.Sun.COM (Pete Jolly[CONTRACTOR])
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Help With Old NOVELL INstallation
Date: 24 Nov 1992 01:01:29 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: itcode
Keywords: installation novell

Anyone out there had experience installing "old" versions of 
Novell Netware?  I have a lot of Unix experience but I have a
client with a real old version of Netware (~1987 vintage) and
they no longer have the installation manuals.  They do seem to 
have all of the installation diskettes and some of the users
manuals and do have a working system.  My job is to upgrade their
current 150MB ESDI hard disk to a 340 MB IDE Maxtor drive.

I have the drive but don't know where to begin as far as building
the new hard disk.  Are the diskette based installation programs
intuitive or do I really need an installation manual?  Anyone 
out there have some installation notes they could forward to 
me?

Any help is greatly appreciated......

Pete J.
Intellicode Software Company
San Jose, Ca.

(...petej@Eng.Sun.COM | ...uunet.uu.net!sun!petej)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: skl@wimsey.bc.ca (Samuel Lam)
Subject: Re: Etherlink III (3c509)
Reply-To: skl@wimsey.bc.ca (Samuel Lam)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:48:32 GMT

In article <Nov20.161332.67921@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>,
 millerje@CS.ColoState.EDU (Jeff Miller) wrote:
>One note
>though: according to the read.me file on the disk that comes with the 509,
>the 509 will only work on a workstation -- NOT the server, which IMHO is too
>bad, since it would seem that the extra speed would be used most wisely on
>the server.

I called 3COM's pre-sale support (800-NET-3COM) around the middle
of the month about that and they told me that a NetWare 3.11 *server*
driver for the EtherLink III (3C509) is in beta test and a (unsupported)
copy is available on their BBS.  They said a released version will be
shipped with the card by the end of this month.

...Sam
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From: jhb@dcs.ed.ac.uk (John Butler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Access 1.22 / WNIM+ / Dos5.0 - solved
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:12:25 GMT
Reply-To: jhb@dcs.ed.ac.uk (John Butler)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Edinburgh University

Thanks to daborton@novell.com for this:

If running Netware Access 1.22 with a PC which has the Chips&Technologies
chipset you must add a NOSH parameter to the QEMM386.SYS line in CONFIG.SYS.
If you don't, the WNIM+ board will fail to initialise lines properly.

David -  I tried to mail thanks to you but something somewhere freaked out.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: karcher@jevex.waisman.wisc.edu
Subject: RE: SMC vs. Asante 10BaseT
Organization: Waisman Center, University of Wisconsin-Madison
Date: 20 NOV 92 12:50:18 CST

In a previous article, dweissman@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (WiseGuy) wrote:
> We recently purchased an Asante 10T
>12 port concentrator to swap with an existing SMC and found that the clients
>couldn't reach the Novell 3.11 server!  I checked to make sure that SQE
>was turned off on the thicknet transceiver (it was off) and took a look at
>the Asante concentrator.  Every transmit from the client also caused the
>collision indicator to come on.  Since the SMC had no other lights other
>than LINK, I couldn't tell what was going on.  FYI:  The ethernet cards were
>SMC3016TP.

I found the Asante hubs to be garbage too. I tried two different units thinking
the first was bad.  Both had excessive collisions and generated receive errors.
Asante tech support never returned phone calls.  I Swapped in a cabletron MRX
and everything was fine.


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Waisman Center                        Bitnet:   KARCHER@WISCMACC
University of Wisconsin-Madison       PSTnet:   (608) 263-5896
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell