From: jgacker@news.gsfc.nasa.gov (James G. Acker)
Subject: Re: B&B: A Pale Imitation of Jim's Updates
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:49:38 GMT

Amy Lindsay (amy@lloyd.Camex.COM) wrote:
: In article <1992Dec17.192232.7727@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> jgacker@news.gsfc.nasa.gov (James G. Acker) writes:
: >
: >	Ridge probably didn't even blink!  She'd have to use a
: >telephone pole.
: 
: Actually I thought Ron Moss did a better job than usual in that scene.  He
: went from looking totally clueless to looking slightly LESS than totally
: clueless.


[some stuff deleted]

: clueless together.  The Clueless One looks uncomfortable.  Brooke
: eventually declines thereby proving herself less than totally clueless
: (must be because she spent all that time in Europe and was able to detox a
: bit...)

	I'm glad something helped.


: 
: Meanwhile, Karen arranges a "Night Thorne Will Never Forget."  She and Macy
: have words (earlier in the week Macy broke the news to Karen that, while
: she may have moved out, she had not given up!)

	I'm not at all surprised by this.  It's clear that Macy needs to
forget Thorne and move on, perhaps to a muscular, intelligent, sympathetic,
witty, oceanographer.  Hmmm...


: Anyway, during this discussion, Macy finds out that Karen is a 27 year old
: virgin (like she hasn't all but taken out a full page ad in the Wall Street
: Journal...)

	Nawh, but I have seen her at Virgins Anonymous meetings.  Whoops!
I'm not supposed to tell!


She probably also found out other things, but I had to
: fast-forward because I found myself looking for things to throw at the TV
: and we have all these glass christmas ornaments lying around.

	This is really funny, especially considering my Christmas tree
is right next to the TV set.


: Why on earth do people on soaps actually ANSWER questions like this when
: people they don't like ask them?

	Because then we couldn't complain about it!

: Thorne isn't dealing well with the Karen thing, but old Clueless tells him
: he'd better not work late because Karen is planning a "Night Thorne Will
: Never Forget."  Thus proving it must be something in the water (or else
: it's genetic) because Thorne is possibly more clueless than Ridge.


: (BTW, Mr Clueless knows about the "Night Thorne Will Never Forget" because
: earlier in the week Karen, in the middle of telling the Clueless One she
: was still a virgin, asked him for suggestions on how to make it a "night
: Thorne will never forget."  the Clueless One suggests a Christmas theme.
: Which she eventually carries out with a vengeance...)
: 
: Obviously, Karen believes anything worth doing is worth overdoing...
: 
: Oh yeah, and Macy calls Thorne.  It was a strange call, but it ended with
: Thorne thinking that Macy was seeing what's-his-name (from before I started
: watching B&B.)  You know, I used to actually LIKE Thorne, but now I kind of
: think he and Karen deserve each other...

	Jake McClain!  In this whole shebang (ahem), bringing in Jake just
to ruin Thorne and Macy getting back together was the worst.  The minute
he showed up in the office I said "get your a** the h*ll out of L.A. right
now, Jake-meister!"  But of course, it was to no avail.  It would have been
MUCH more plausible if Macy had come home to find Thorne and Karen in a
very compromising position, and Macy had said, "I'm an independent woman and
I'm not going to take this any more!" and moved out, leaving Thorne to
agonize, Karen to gloat over her victory over virginity, and Macy to wonder
if she'd done the right thing... it just makes sense, which is not a
staple on the Bold & the Clueless.  Macy is a classic example of the "good
girl" that everything bad happens to (not how she was originally drawn
when she went after Mick, the photographer who was Kristen's ex-lover).
Women other than Stephanie are not portrayed well on B&B.  Think about it --
Sheila's a lying schemer (maybe changing), Karen is ga-ga over Thorne,
Sally's a lying schemer (though good-hearted), Darla's a dumb blond stereotype
(though good-hearted), Macy is totally devoted to wimpy Thorne, Brooke has
been brainless over Ridge for eons, Felicia lost all mental capacity when
with Zach, Kristen actually came back to Clarke!   Stephanie, despite
her harshness, has backbone.  (Maybe it's in her contract -- Susan Flannery
portrays the only female character with pride.)  I think a couple of
characters need renovations.

: >	Actually, I'm in negotiations right now with the B&B producers
: >to be Macy's new love interest.  I haven't offered them enough
: >money yet, but we're still talking.

: Aren't you, like, getting married in, like, the near future?

	Oh sure, but if I paid them enough money and they hired me on
as a plotline consultant and actor, I'd just have to do my part for Art.
I'd settle for a couple of sauna scenes -- that *I* get to write.

: >	Or even Hill-ary.  Sounds very First Ladyish, too.
: 
: My room-mate, Peg is holding out for "Savannah."

	Not bad!  Let's see, there also Loess (Lois), River (as in
River Phoenix -- it's been done!), or even (gasp) Sierra!  (but to
defame the memory of my favorite ATWT heroine -- please God, no!)


: Get your VCR back, Jim.  Peg offered to send the tape, but I haven't been
: able to bring myself to watch this week's Y&R (which is also on there) yet.
: However, I'm willing to forgo Y&R if you get back to Real Updates...

	My VCR will be back this weekend.  If I can convince my parents
not to interfere with The Taping Process, we might squeeze in a few
pre-Christmas updates.

	Jim Acker
	jgacker@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov



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