HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dbidwa@sei.cmu.edu (Daniel Bidwa)
Subject: Re: Why care what percentage (was: Gay Likelihood)
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 13:16:25 EST

thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank):
>And, of course, having an accurate percentage is important for epidemological
>considerations for certain afflictions.  If 10% of all men are gay, it means
>that gay men are 19 times as much risk for HIV infection than the rest of the
>population (assuming that the UL'ish notion that 50% of all HIV+ are hetero),
>while if 4% of all men are gay, then gay men are 48 times as much risk, etc.

Excuse me, but what the hell are you talking about? Sexual orientation has
nothing to do with how much someone is "at risk". (And yes, "50% of all HIV+
are hetero" is probably wrong, but not because the percentage is too large.)
Sexual activity is the determining factor, not orientation -- a man
frotting with another man is much less likely to swap diseases with that
person than, say, a man and a woman having penetrative sex without a condom.
There is no "safe" sexually active social category.

>Ironically, the constant repetition of the clearly false 10% overestimate
>probably results in far too much of society's resources being devoted to
>preventing heterosexual AIDS, and not enough devoted to preventing homosexual
>AIDS. 

Huh? So are you saying that a smaller estimation would lead to more support
for preventing "homosexual AIDS"? This doesn't make any sense. 
I suspect that you have very little idea just how "society's resources" are
being used against HIV and AIDS. 

Dan
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From: dbreece@cherry.ucs.indiana.edu (Dave Breece)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.food.cooking
Subject: Re: Cheese popcorn
Date: 22 Dec 92 14:49:52 GMT
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington

In article <1h7970INNe2c@bigboote.WPI.EDU> driel@wpi.WPI.EDU (Deborah
M Riel) writes: 
>In article <Bznv9t.Bxo@monster.apd.saic.com>
tomj@monster.apd.saic.com (Tom Johnson)  writes:

>>Have you ever tried to buy the cheese stuff they use to make cheese
>>popcorn?  They don't have THAT at my grocery store.  Maybe we
>>should cross-post to alt.conspiracy......

>I wanted to make my own cheese popcorn once, and got the brainstorm of
>using one of those packets of orangey cheese powder from a box of
>macaroni and cheese.  It worked!  I just dumped it in the pot (I make
>popcorn the old fashioned way of using a pot on the stove) after the
>corn was all done popping, put on the lid and shook it all up till it
>coated the popcorn.  Don't ask me why I got the urge to do this,
>but it can be done!


I don't know if they make this anymore, but a few years back, Kraft
was making grated cheddar cheese, much the same as their parmesan,
only in an orange can, instead of green.

It makes (made) wonderful cheese popcorn!


-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: dhartung@chinet.chi.il.us (Dan Hartung)
Subject: Re: Fruitcake
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:08:43 GMT

jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu (Joel K. Furr) writes:
>
>I eat them.
>
>Send your fruitcakes to:
>
>Joel Furr
>P.O. Box 601
>Christiansburg, VA 24073

Yes, but do you really want Rush Limbaugh for Christmas?

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From: hoey@AIC.NRL.Navy.Mil (Dan Hoey)
Subject: Re: Roach hotel
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 21:02:12 GMT

sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com (Bruce Tindall) writes:

>This brings to mind a real UL about a hotel in Charleston, S.C.,....
>         [bulk deleted]
>She was placated, until she noticed a little piece of paper still in
>the envelope.  Apparently a note from the manager to his secretary,
>it said, "Send this old bag the Roach Letter."

A related story appears in P. G. Wodehouse's 1910 novel _Psmith_in_
_the_City_.  After his friend is fired in the presence of a customer,
Psmith suggests the firing may have been for show:

    ``In America, as possibly you are aware, there is a regular post
    of mistake-clerk, whose duty it is to receive in the neck anything
    that happens to be coming along when customers make complaints.
    He is hauled into the presence of the foaming customer, cursed,
    and sacked.  The customer goes away appeased.  The mistake-clerk,
    if the harangue has been unusually energetic, applies for a rise
    of salary.''

Dan Hoey
Hoey@AIC.NRL.Navy.Mil
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Mnemonics & Now - Burning Mines
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:36:41 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA

PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:
: 
: example of beryl.  I will need further research to find the structure
: of topaz, but at the moment I doubt it is beryl.  Given that the

... delided ...

: they are not simply interchangeable.  I would guess Topaz is an
: impure mullite (Al2SiO5), a compound that can have different
: crystal structures.  I suppose it would be easier to find a book
: on mineralogy, rather than speculate.

There are a couple of stones that are called "topaz". It is a silicate
of aluminum (I think Al2SiO4) - I believe it has an orthorhombic structure.

Some yellow colored quartz (citrine or cairngorm) is incorrectly often 
called topaz. 

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: twod@socrates.demon.co.uk (Ian A Parkin)
Subject: Variation on a theme
Distribution: world
Organization: Realizing Relentlessly
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 22:15:49 +0000

Theme 	  : Non-existent charity, boy dying of cancer, etc

Variation : In the Luton & Bedfordshire area of the UK there was a recent 
		'sick' case of trickery that smacked of UL. The jist of the
		con was to get people to collect bar-codes in order to buy
		an expensive piece of medical equipment for the local hospital
		( Luton & District ). This suckered quite a few people and was
		exposed in the local newspapers. This is not a FOAF as it 
		happened to AF whose initials are SD ( validating criteria or
		what ?? ). It caused quite a lot of humour at work as for the 
		2 or 3 weeks building up to the exposure it was impossible to 
		find anything in the office with a bar code intact ( milk 
		cartons excluded ). If it was not nailed down the bar code 
		was gone !!

Yours in many tabs ...

IAP

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From: Tom.Rettie@p828.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Rettie)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: The El (Was: Re: Conductivity of water <plus a story from Uncle Dave>)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 09:36:07 -0500

Recently, Terry Manley wrote: 

  TM> WEl I haven't been there since '79 and the brain tends to wipe out
  TM> unpleasant memories!  I was undecided as to whether it was "L" or "El"
  TM> - did it stand for "Electric" or "Elevated" or  "Loupe" as in "The
  TM> Loupe".  For those of you that don't know, "The Loupe" is the downtown
  TM> area of Chicago.

"The Loupe" is an area of Chicago predominantly inhabited by watchmakers and
jewelers.  You'll know when you are there because all the street signs are very
tiny, and you'll need a powerful magnifying lens to read them.

It is, however, not very far from "The Loop," the central business district of
Chicago.

Happy Holidays to All,

Tom Rettie

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: nigel@kathunk.phaedrav.on.ca (Nigel M Burnett)
Subject: Re: Pudding things into perspective
Organization: as little as possible
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 20:59:19 GMT

Stephanie da Silva (arielle@NeoSoft.com) wrote:
 
: As far as the recipe goes, speaking from a cook's view, it's rather
: on the uninspired side.
: 
: ############## Perfect rice pudding ####################
: 
: [This is the story........................ deleted
: 
: 2 Tblsp. Pudding Rice (short-grain white rice)
: 1 Pint Milk
: 1 Tblsp. Sugar
: Butter
: 

Uninspired is an understatement!  Where are the currants and cinnamon and
heavy cream?  Sheesh - I like ginger in mine too.  So do the lemurs.

ObUL:  There's always room for one more on any 3rd world vehicle.  Although
	this is difficult to prove mathematically, there are years of
	empirical proof.  I took a photo in Bangkok of 6 people sitting
	on a 125cc motorbike.  I was one of 65 (not counting infants) on
	a 24 seat bus in Myanmar.  And don't ask about Tokyo 'cause it's
	not third world anymore.
-- 
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a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others.  His own
good, either physical or moral, is not a sufficient warrant.   John Stuart Mill

Nigel Burnett: 78 Normandy Blvd, Toronto, Ontario, Canada, M4L 3K3 416-690-1834
Send e-mail to nigel@kathunk.phaedrav.on.ca or try uunet.ca!kink!kathunk!nigel
From: panek@an.hp.com (Jon Panek)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Gravity
Date: 22 Dec 1992 22:45:23 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard Santa Clara Site
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpanvi.an.hp.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5


Wayne McDougall writes:

>> This does bring to mind the story that Galileo did not actually
>> drop stuff off the leaning tower of Pisa, but simply claimed the
>> results that different sized stuff would fall at the same rate,
>> without bothering to find out.
>
>Yes, like Newton' apple, this story is generally regarded as apocryphal but
>Galileo DID "bother to find out" by rolling things down inclined planes,
>which has the effect of slowing things down so that they can be readily
>measured, whil proportions etc, remain constant.

Yes, it seems the last time I tried to roll a feather down an inclined
plane, it *did* go much slower.  About that proportionality now...

--
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,talk.politics.medicine
From: pmsc13sg@UMASSD.EDU (Stephen Grossman)
Subject: Re: Why care what percentage?  (was: Gay Likelihood)
Reply-To: pmsc13sg@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:14:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.151840.21605@midway.uchicago.edu>, thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
>And, of course, having an accurate percentage is important for epidemological
>considerations for certain afflictions.  If 10% of all men are gay, it means
>that gay men are 19 times as much risk for HIV infection than the rest of the
>population (assuming that the UL'ish notion that 50% of all HIV+ are hetero),
>while if 4% of all men are gay, then gay men are 48 times as much risk, etc.
>
>This would (or should) change the amount of societal resources devoted to AIDS
>education and prevention.  Ironically, the constant repetition of the clearly
>false 10% overestimate probably results in far too much of society's resources
>being devoted to preventing heterosexual AIDS, and not enough devoted to
>preventing homosexual AIDS. 

    You should have read my AIDS post. Duesberg says there is no peer-reviewed
paper which proves the HIV-AIDS _hypothesis_. Is he right?
    He says modern AIDs is caused by the hard drug lifestyle of malnutrition, 
sleeplessness, and chronic tension, classic causes of immune deficiency.
    I say scientists are morally intimidated by egalitarianism and so claim
that all groups are equally at risk. Duesberg says homo. druggies.
    Also, the Am. Psychiatric Assoc. permitted itself to be lobbied and intimi-
dated by homo. activists around 1970 and, without new science, changed their
public judgement about the psy. unhealthiness of homo.
    I am not a scientist but a person who recognizes that science is a tool of
survival and that it is being corrupted by political correctness.
    See _Rethinking AIDS_, an occasional publication from the Group for the
Scientific Reappraisal of the HIV/AIDS Hypothesis (2040 Polk St.-321, San
Francisco, CA 94109; FAX 415-775-1984). They need donations.









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you had known in your childhood: that spirit of eagerness, adventure and cer-
tainty which comes from dealing with a rational universe."
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc,talk.bizarre
From: bs24@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Bruce Sarte)
Subject: Walking Between Rain Drops !!!!
Reply-To: bs24@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Bruce Sarte)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:10:33 GMT

	I am somewhat new to this news thread and do not know if this
	is a new or old subject, but some my colleagues and I have
	recently started a discussion about the rain.  We have pondered
	in what way can you not get hit by rain drops ???

	Some of the issues we have been discussing are:

	- if you run through the rain, do you get wetter since 
	  you will obviously get hit by more rain drops, or do you 
	  stay drier since you will spend less time in the rain ??

	- what effect does the rain have on this if the rain comes
	  down consistently or when it varies ??


	Any new views on this would be interesting !!!

Bruce


Xref: sparky alt.folklore.urban:32227 alt.config:8190
From: jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu (J. Furr)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.config
Subject: Re: alt.dev.null.mnemonics?
Date: 28 Dec 92 12:34:23 GMT
Organization: Virginia Center for Lemur Fandom (subscribe to alt.fan.lemurs TODAY)

In article <1992Dec26.205925.17295@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:
>
>	Joel Furr believes that a hundred postings on
>Mnenomics in a couple of weeks merit a new newsgroup?
>How about an LSD newsgroup, it's been a more popular topic,
>or maybe an FAQ newsgroup?  Time for a vcation, take
>a couple of days away from the terminal and enjoy xmas.

Hey, nope, check the FAQ.  This newsgroup frowns on smileys, so I left
them off what I thought would be taken as a deliberately silly suggestion.
I'd just as soon not have Phil Gustafson rearranging my diodes.

Joel "Now, if he wouldn't mind rearranging my furniture" Furr
jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: graham@cs.washington.edu (Stephen Graham)
Subject: Re: Net's Funniest Kitchen Disasters
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 00:39:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec25.114527.27420@u.washington.edu> dst@hardy.u.washington.edu (Dale Tanigawa) writes:
>There are a few legends here at the UW involving Drumheller Fountain, which
>is bordered on one side by the chemistry building.  Drumheller is a nice
>big pondish sized fountain.  One of the legends is that someone launched a
>can of sodium from the chemistry building into the fountain---sodium reacts
>explosively with water. 

Yep. At the college I went to, about the third week in each term, there
would be a dull boom about 10:20 some morning. And people would turn
to each other, and say "Oh, Prof. [mumble] is teaching Chem 23.
He's just dumped some sodium into Lyman Lakes again." Fairly common
experiment. But amusing.
-- 
Stephen Graham
graham@cs.washington.edu	 uw-beaver!june!graham
From: jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu (J. Furr)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: scientology
Date: 31 Dec 92 11:22:20 GMT
Organization: Virginia Center for Lemur Fandom (subscribe to alt.fan.lemurs TODAY)

In article <1992Dec31.002139.21201@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:
>in article <725431189.27397@zooid.guild.org> Newsgroup: misc.books.technical,
>ron@zooid.guild.org (Secret Mud) writes:
>>phoffman@orac.holonet.net (Paul E. Hoffman) writes:
>>>jmacphai@cue.bc.ca (James MacPhail) writes:
>>>
>>>>The best-seller part is no mystery. They just go out and buy their own book
>>>>in sufficient quantity to hit the volume mark. (Then re-sell them, I guess?)
>>>
>>>That's plain ridiculous. No publisher does that. The word "best-seller"
>>>has no real meaning, so anyone can call any book that.
>>>
>>No honest publisher does it, but I have read magazine articles which state
>>that the Church of Scientology did exactly that to put L. Ron Hubbard's books
>>on best seller lists.  (Sound reasonable to me--I've read some of that tripe.)
>                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Has the markings of a UL, might even qualify for a motto.  Any
>evidence that Scientology would do something like this?
>

Yes.  Time Magazine's cover story on Scientology this year included a
paragraph or two about "Dianetics" reaching bestseller status this way. 
They quoted bookstore employees as saying that "Dianetics" often arrived
from the publisher with pricetags from other bookstores still attached...
meaning, they were bought and immediately sent out to stores to be resold.

Joel "I get ALL my facts from Time" Furr
jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.science
From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: Dead Pigeons (was: Electric Field Question)
Organization: The Ohio State University
 <9212232116.59@rmkhome.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 17:34:55 GMT

In article <9212232116.59@rmkhome.UUCP> rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>
>Back around 1967, The Avatar, a Boston underground newspaper, had a recipe
>for roast Boston Common pigeon.

	It first appeared in _The Anarchist's Cookbook_.

Jon "Pigeons roasting on an open fire." Papai
From: Terry.Smith@f870.n800.z3.fidonet.org (Terry Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Dead Pigeons (was: Electric Field Question)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 02:30:46

 >Back around 1967, The Avatar, a Boston underground newspaper, had a recipe
 >for roast Boston Common pigeon.
 PA> 
 PA> It first appeared in _The Anarchist's Cookbook_.

 
    Hmm, pigeon as something unusual to eat.. did they also have an original
recipe for rabbits ?

ObUl: This is the echo for fast food addicts who don't own a cheese grater.

Terry minimus


 * Origin: Elizabeth Park BBS (3:800/870.0)

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Subject: Re: Dead Cat - other stolen object
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:34:49 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <13080089@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, rrd@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ray Depew) writes:
> In alt.folklore.urban, hoey@AIC.NRL.Navy.Mil (Dan Hoey) gives me the good news:
> 
> > Four.  I was told there was a prize for most AFU slogans in
> > succession.
> 
> Yeah!  So, (I hesitate to ask) what did I win?  

A matched set of diodes, carefully arranged for your electrical pleasure.
But watch out for the smilies, or Ph*l will rearrange them till it hertz.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Gravity
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 04:34:34 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.010846.1153@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> crosby@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Matthew Crosby) writes:

>I thought this only applied to ounces?  (ie: there is no troy pound)

Apparently they finally got around to weighing the counselor and noticing a
few more troi pounds.

cjl
From: Brian.Milner@brunel.ac.uk (Brian D Milner)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Trademarks (was Re: ...film at 11...)
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:44:22 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK


My brother regails me frequently with the tale of the games company
that produced a game about WWII, and tried to trademark / copyright
the word "Nazi."

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+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|brian.milner@brunel.ac.uk | Failed films #27 -  The Sound of Mucus       |
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader)
Subject: Re: Trademark legends
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 07:10:18 GMT

>    The German-based firm owned the brand name Aspirin at the start of
>    World War I, but following Germany's defeat, the trademark became
>    part of the country's war reparations demanded by the Allies.  At the
>    Treaty of Versailles in June 1919, Germany surrendered the brand
>    name to France, England, the United States, and Russia.

This is curious, if true, because Bayer *still* owns the trademark
Aspirin in Canada (other brands of acetylsalicylic acid are usually
labeled ASA).

From 1867 until 1931, Canada had a limited independence from the UK;
basically we were independent as regards internal matters, but Canada
was automatically included in the state of war declared in 1914.
It occurs to me that possibly Canada was automatically included in
the Treaty of Versailles as well, but that this inclusion did not
cover the trademark thing because it was considered an internal matter.
-- 
Mark Brader		"... a movement is already under way to declare
Toronto			 December 7 an annual legal holiday in commemoration
utzoo!sq!msb		 of the opening of hostilities."
msb@sq.com			-- Ring Lardner (in the New York Times), 1931

This article is in the public domain.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: Late breaking potential UL!
Organization: The Ohio State University
 <1992Dec30.003923.10295@samba.oit.unc.edu>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 02:43:39 GMT

in article <1992Dec30.003923.10295@samba.oit.unc.edu>,
Bruce.Tindall@launchpad.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.002236.10792@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
>PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:
>>Jon "Did Chelsea take Spanish before naming her cat S O C K S?" Papai
>
>		........ And speaking of that horrid commercial (I see
>you stay up all night listening to NewsRadio88 too), has anyone noticed
>that the original version of the commercial stated that "S O C K S"
>("eso si que es") means "that's what I want" in Spanish?  Now it's
>translated as "that's what it is".

	The thing I wonder about is 'This and other "patented
learning techniques" can be yours [blah blah etc. etc.]'

	What the hell is a 'patented learning technique' and does
National Dynamics Speed Tapes(tm) have a patent on it?

ObLanguageUL: Gil Gamesh of Babylon was contractor of the Tower of Babel.

Jon "We'll have you speaking and understanding Spanish,
Russian, German, and even Japanese in under 30 days" Papai