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From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: cats&music
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:09:40 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

> One of our cats will respond to the sounds of a recorder (end-blown flute) 
> -- but especially when you make wierd sounds that kind of slide between 
> two notes with a jump between.  Lots of "purt, purt", purring, rubbing, 
> sitting in your lap, etc.  

[ I started this thread by describing how my cat Muriel freaks at the sound
  of a clarinet, however well played in whatever kind of music. ]

I've now found a kind of music Muriel *is* fascinated by.  I don't often
listen to the Radio Scotland bagpipe programme (full of preposterously
pompous military types huffing and puffing reminiscences about when they
were in Aden with Pipe-Major MacThingummy of the 43rd Rockall Highlanders)
but tuned in to hear someone playing one of the most famous of all
pibrochs, the "Lament for the Children".  A pibroch is the main "classical"
form of pipe music: a solo piper plays a simple slow tune and then repeats
it over and over with nothing much happening except that the ornamentation
gets more and more elaborate.  Muriel sat bolt upright with her eyes nearly
falling out of her head at every flurry of grace notes.  While it might be
romantic to think she was perceiving the emotional qualities of one of the
finest pieces of music in the piping repertoire, I suspect that the
gracenote patterns sounded to her like a nest of small, defenceless and
*edible* birds...

(Yesterday I posted a long diary of my summer holiday to rec.travel and
 soc.culture.turkish; there are cat anecdotes from Croatia and Turkey in
 it, though not enough to merit crossposting it here).

-- 
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From: sjs@naucse.cse.nau.edu (Susan Starr)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Names
Date: 22 Nov 92 21:52:53 GMT
Organization: Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff AZ

I'm sure that most cats have many names.  Among my cats names are:
Big Black Fuzzy Kitty, FuzzButt, FuzzBreath, Mr. Pumpkin Head,
The Blob, Cow Kitty and His Fuzzy Majesty

Sue
From: avi@rix.Corp.Sun.COM (Ann Adamcik)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Neutering question
Date: 17 Nov 1992 00:52:08 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: avi@rix.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: rix.corp.sun.com

rhart@haas.berkeley.edu (Richard Hart) writes:
>Is is normal for the vet to keep the cat overnight after
>neuter surgery? This is a male cat. I don't remember this
>being the practice last time I had a boy cat (years ago).
>
>I don't think they even kept my girls overnight, come to think of it.
>
 
It depends very much on the philosopy of the vet (and of the owner),
and the situation.  If it is difficult to fast the cat at home, it 
makes sense for the vet to board the cat the night before.  If there 
is not a good emergency vet clinic nearby or home isn't the best place 
for recovery, keeping the cat the night after may make sense.  Many vets 
might just make a blanket policy decision and not ask what you want to 
do - if you have a preference, make it known.

With my current 2 cats (females), I chose to take them in to the clinic 
in the morning and pick them up early that afternoon.  Fasting a cat the
night before, and dealing with a dopey, leaking kitty after surgery isn't 
a whole lot of fun, but I felt that my cats would be happier at home 
instead of in a cage in a strange place.

-Ann
From: phoenix@n7kbt.rain.com (Deborah Ruppert)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cats that JUMP (was fetch)
Date: 19 Nov 92 11:03:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: n7kbt.BxyMp4.LLt
Organization: Two strange people in Forest Grove, OR

My eldest cat, Belle (now 14) regularly jumped from the floor to the top of
the fridge with no prep.  Just sat there, then jumped.  It was her stepping
stone to her favorite hiding place...the space between the top of the
cupboards and the ceiling. She's not quite so ambitious these days...her
favorite place is the Cat Warmer (aka, the monitor for the Sun
Sparcstation) :-)

Deborah
-- 
Deborah J. Ruppert			phoenix@n7kbt.rain.com
Goddess of Documentation

"You have to be deviant if you're going to do anything new."
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: lhuffman@stsci.edu
Subject: Jumping Cat
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:22:51 GMT

My cat Seet Pea who loves to have her body pressing somehwere on her Mom Cat 
will jump onto my shoulder from the floor, whether I am facing her or not. 

She used to not ask permission before she did it, so there was much 
screeching and many dishes involuntarily flung into the air when she did it 
after supper-time. Now she is polite and trills "Here I come" as she leaps. 
And now I am used to it, love her attention and don't startle quit so much. 
I can even stand in front of her, pat my shoulder and ask her to jump up 
and she will, talking to me on the trip up.

She has tried it on a few guests, with mixed reactions but mostly it can be 
described as freaking-out.

She's the only kitty I've had who's ever done that and it is only a part
of her special nature.  Can you tell I love her dearly...
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ac94691@dunix.drake.edu (The Dark Kitty)
Subject: Cat Doodling
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Distribution: rec.pets.cats
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:02:36 GMT

Well I thought since others were into cat doodling, that I'd post the
file that I use as my finger plan on our vms host and also as the login
screen when I sign on.  Hope people don't get offended by a couple of
things in the file.  =-)  But I'm including the file in its entirety.

*******

                                           
                       /\                     /\
                      |  \                   /  |       George Bush is
                      |   \  _____________  /   |       still a
                      |    \/             \/    |       Fascist Pig
                      |                         |       But at least he
                       \    ___         ___    /        wasn't re-elected!
                       /   |   |       |   |   \
                      |    | @ |       | @ |    |
                      |     ---  |   |  ---     |
                      |          |   |          |
                       \         |___|         /
                        \         \ /         /
                         \__|      |      |__/ 
                             \____/ \____/
                                 \___/         Meow Dude
 

Hey, wanna hear bizarre tunes that'll get you freakin' and peakin'?
Listen to The Know-Show, featuring ME (Tony Scott),
Wednesday nights at 10pm on YOUR Radio Station:
KDRK Drake University!!!!! (The Background Noise of Cable Channel 34)

******

I did that about 4 years ago when I worked for a little start up
company.  I used the nick VaxCat at the time (still do) cause my kitty
would sit on top of my Mac while I was dialed into the VAX.  VaxCat
sounded so much nicer than MacCat.  Of course, now I use Unix but
still go by VaxCat cause it sounds better than UnixCat.  ;-D

Feel free to use the cat face or to a) edit and improve it, and post
it to the net or b) edit and improve it, and at least email the
results to me.

Anthony

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder)
Subject: Re: Jumping Cat
Organization: Not today
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:50:44 GMT

I was making the bed one morning (Tribble now a lump in the bed) and 
bending over at the waist when I felt Hobbit jump up onto my back and
start to reach up and play with the chain hanging from the ceiling fan.
So here I am bent over and a kitten is jumping up off my back, batting
the chain and landing again. Then the phone rang, so I walked over and
answered it and ended up carrying on a conversation for several minutes
with a kitten curled up on my back. Hmmmm, the things we allow cats to
get away with!

Steve  and Hobbit and Tribble
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jeremy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (jeremy.l.radosh)
Subject: Re: Cat Weight Gain--FROM WHERE?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:44:21 GMT

In article <lis.722257664@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba) writes:
>When I last took Boopsie to the vet (September) she weighed between 12
>& 13 pounds and the vet told me she'd HAVE to shed some poounds.  So,
>I've put her on IAMS Less Active, and slowly reduced the amount I'm
>feeding her to 1/2 cup per day--the minimum for her weight.  
	
	Orson started out at 18 lbs when I moved him to Iam's Less Active.
	He's down to 16 lbs, but it's hard to tell.  Just FYI
>
>Boopsie now weighs 14 pounds, and I don't know where the extra weight
>is coming from.  There is no food in my home and some bugs, but not
>enough for such a large weight gain.  She likes chewing on papers and
>cardboard.  Could she be gaining weight by eating paper?  
>

	Just an idea: perhaps Boopsie is putting on her winter coat,
	and her winter fat layer.  The cat doesn't need any extra
	food to do this; I thing that cat's metabolisms change over
	the winter time to do this (protect them from the cold).

Jeremy

-- 
  (\_/)          " Love to eat them mousies,
  |* *|              Mousie's what I love to eat.
  \>Y</            Bite they little heads off...
   `U'               Nibble on they tiny feet."       B.Kliban `75
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: baskin@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com (Brenda Baskin)
Subject: Re: travel
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 22:51:27 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.15 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: baskin@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com (Brenda Baskin)
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

In <zari.721876018@yacht> zari@ee.fit.edu (Kevin Zari) writes:
>I am going to take my 6 month kitten to NY with me via Delta .
>I have the kennel and all, but because of the route taken, my kitten will be
>in it for at least 6 hours. What can I do to make the trip more comfortable
>for her?
>Should I line the kennel with towels, or something soft?
>What about food, water , etc.
>If I feed her, will she pee or deficate in the kennel?
>
>Please, any experience or knowledge would be appreciated..
>please email me at zari@ee.fit.edu
>
>thanks
>       kz
>                       OH YEAH, I'm leaving on the 25th of Nov.
>                       So please reply before then

Are you on a non-stop flight?  If the temperature at the change over
city is below (or above in summer) a certain temp (I don't know what it
is) they won't let you board your pet.  This protects your pet from
freezing if it gets left on the tarmac too long, but you need to be
prepared in case you get to the airport and they won't board your kitty.
Have a contingency plan (a friend to take her home?).

I like to line my carrier with news paper with a towel or old shirt
which smells like me on top. The news paper is very absorbant in case
kitty has an accident.

Don't put food in the carrier. And don't feed her for 1/2-1 hour before
leaving for the airport or you will have a sick kitty.

Show kitty the litter box before you leave home. Sometimes mine decide
they need to use it before we leave. (Oh thanks, Mom, I forgot I needed
to go).

Do have water available in the cage. Make sure it is in a tip proof
container or fastened securely to the door.

Does you kitty handle stress well? If not, you may want to get a
tranquilizer from your Vet.

I like the suggestion from someone else about 'locking' the door so it
can't open by itself. It's along the same lines of locking your suitcase
so it doesn't pop open and display your undies to everyone.

Good Luck.
Have a good trip!

Brenda Baskin  (baskin@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon)
Subject: Help with pads of cat's feet
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:10:57 GMT


The pads of my kitten's paws are very dry and have begun to crack!  Poor
kitty!  Anyone have some advice of what I can do for her?
From: jm012b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jeffrey P. Moon)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cats that JUMP (was fetch)
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:56:26 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <10537@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM> jwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Jeff Wilson) writes:

><1du1b0INN2di@FUNCTOR.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU>
><1992Nov13.235246.24011@rsg1.er.usgs.gov>

>In <1992Nov13.235246.24011@rsg1.er.usgs.gov> ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve
>Snyder) writes:

>I once saw a cat who, from a sitting position and with a perfectly relaxed
>expression, jumped on top of a refrigerator from the floor. An almost 6 foot
>jump, with no pre-jump run. He never did it again that I know of, and I've
>never seen any other cat come close. Amazing.

Well, I don't mean to brag, but our little cat Boots back home can do that
as well (actually, she jumps to the top of the shelfs in the TV room to sit
on the warm cablebox in the winter evenings.) :)

I swear that I am not making it up. She practically floats up to the top
without even any preparation save a small crouch.

Jeffrey Moon
University of Rochester
New York

(Hello also from Boots & Coots - meow!)
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:46:53 EST
From: L. Antosz <LA6055A@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: alarm cat

I should add to barry's posting that midnight, the older, aforemetioned
"patient" one will occasionally cycle her wake-up times to be progressively
earlier and earlier....she finally got to 1:30 am befor we'd all had enough
of this nonsense.  Feeding them later doesn't seem to work always, since the
kitties are of the opinion that they don't get enough to eat to begin with...
(they get 2 cans + dry every day).  Other than this, they are great....one
weird thing about this problem, though, they only seem to bother Barry, not
me when they decide to wake someone.  I think precious' terrorization of
things is more aimed at letting us know he is mad about being locked out.
Further ideas, anyone?
From: loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu (Sandra Loosemore)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Other Monsters
Date: 20 Nov 1992 08:04:34 -0500
Organization: staff hacker @ Yale Haskell project
	<16NOV199214391955@nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov> <69878@cup.portal.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: functor.systemsz.cs.yale.edu
In-reply-to: bobschulien@cup.portal.com's message of Thu, 19 Nov 92 20:40:50 PST

bobschulien@cup.portal.com (Robert John Schulien) writes:

  [ cat fishes used kleenex out of toilet -- gross! ]

The solution to this problem, of course, is to keep the lid of the toilet
closed, and/or dispose of the kleenex in the trash instead of the toilet.

-Sandra
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: lhuffman@stsci.edu
Subject: Rugs and such
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: usa,na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:00:15 GMT

> 
> Both my cats, Harry and Spike, love to play slide on the rug game.  When I 
> get home from work there they sit with those guilty looks on their faces 
> and all my rugs bunched up in corners of the house.  I even caught them in 
> the act once.  They run down the hallway and into one of the rooms that 
> have a loose rug on the floor and they slide on it across the floor.  

My cats used to do this to distraction (mine) and I'd always trip over a pile
of rug in the hallway in the dark in the small night hours; while
I slept they would play surfing USA down the hall. And I WAS FOREVER 
STRAIGHTENING RUGS!!!

Anyway, after telling them that if they didn't stop wouldn't 
they be sorry when I was in the hospital and couldn't work to earn the money
to buy the cat food.  It had no effect. I would get these wicked thoughts
about secretly nailing the rugs to the floor without telling them and letting 
them hit it full force  and go head over tin-cups at light speed down the 
hallway until they came to rest in a boneless heap at the other end. 

ANYWAY...

What I did finally was buy a very thin rubber matting that is put under the 
rug and provides enough traction for the rug not to slide anymore. They have 
turned their attentions elsewhere.
From: zari@ee.fit.edu (Kevin Zari)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: travel
Summary: HELP ME AND MY KITTY TRAVEL NICELY...
Keywords: travel
Date: 16 Nov 92 01:06:58 GMT
Organization: Florida Tech, CP/EE Dept.

I am going to take my 6 month kitten to NY with me via Delta .
I have the kennel and all, but because of the route taken, my kitten will be
in it for at least 6 hours. What can I do to make the trip more comfortable
for her? 
Should I line the kennel with towels, or something soft?
What about food, water , etc.
If I feed her, will she pee or deficate in the kennel?

Please, any experience or knowledge would be appreciated..
please email me at zari@ee.fit.edu

thanks
	kz
			OH YEAH, I'm leaving on the 25th of Nov.
			So please reply before then
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: rkn3u@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (R. Keith Norwood)
Subject: Re: Neutering question
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:47:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.223704.6260@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> barlow@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Rebel) writes:
>In <1992Nov17.150648.24012@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon) writes:
>>Agreed.  We adopted a kitten from the animal shelter, and my husband
>>at the time said that if anything happened to her that would require
>>great medical expense, then we would put her to sleep and get another
>>one.  Its not that I don't love my kitten, and its not that I think
>
>Personally I feel that if money is SO tight that you can't afford 33 cent cans
>of cat food because you need to save that money for bills or your own food then
>I don't think you can afford to have a cat. Cats involve not only food but
>the expense of shots and possibly several regular visits to the vet which are
>bound to cost money. The idea that I can get a cat for my own enjoyment and 
>keep it as long as the cat is healthy, but as soon as the cat has a medical
>problem or starts to cost too much...we'll just kill it. Not "put it down" kill
>it is more appropriate. You "put down" animals that are terminally ill or
>suffering due to extreme old age....you kill animals that could be helped
>but you refuse to for whatever the reasons. I think that it is extremely
>irresponsible to take on the committment of an animal if you already know that
>you may not be able to cover the expenses. 
>
>the cat would be better off staying at the shelter and have the chance of
>getting a family that can care for all its needs.
>Jen (and Zeb also a shelter cat)


I just don't understand your position.  The chance of a cat in shelter being
PUT DOWN is much greater than the off chance that it might require expensive
veterinary treatment.  Yet you would rather cats be left in a shelter than
have a person adopted the cat who won't spend their last penny on the cat
if it needs expensive veterinary care. It just doesn't make sense.

Peace,
Keith
From: arkoff@sun.lclark.edu (Gary Arkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Growing back fur
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:54:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Nov19.185446.20850
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

I adopted Znoober for the Humane Society in June of this year.  When I got
her, the people at the Humane Society did not know if she was spayed or not
so they shaved her belly (and part of her legs, they were not real accurate).

Anyways, it has been a little over four months and the fur has not fully 
grown back.  It is still noticeably shorter.  How long should it take until
it is fully grown back?  Also, because Znoober is a female cat, will her
fur always be short/missing on parts of her belly?

-Gary

-- 
I like pork.  Especially pork chops.  *An anymonous student comment made
                                      *on the comment board in the cafeteria
Gary L. Arkoff  arkoff@lclark.edu     *at Lewis and Clark College.
From: avi@rix.Corp.Sun.COM (Ann Adamcik)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Saving mini-blinds
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:05:27 GMT
Reply-To: avi@rix.Corp.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: rix.corp.sun.com

In article 1eet30INNafr@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu, msiegall@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (MARC SIEGALL) writes:
>Help!  My cats will bend back (and break) my mini-blinds, so that they
>can look out the window at night (while I'm asleep).  They push through
>the blinds and sit on the window sill.
>

I also have mini-blinds and a cat that likes to sit on the window sill and
look out.  My solution is simply to leave the blinds raised enough so that 
Maggie can get under them.  I have no reason to close things up tight, and
leaving the blinds open a bit keeps them from getting bent and allows Maggie
to do what she enjoys...

-Ann
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: C11815@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Josette Giacobbi)
Subject: Re: Cats that JUMP (was fetch)
Organization: Motorola
Date: 18 Nov 1992 15:36:40 CST

---
We had a siamese at the time who was 5 years old, male, who used to jump
to the top of the refrigerator, open the closet door above it, and go
inside, and then close the door.  One day we couldn't find him, and looked
up and saw him in the closet (which was always empty because we couldn't
reach up there.  )  He never ran and jumped. Just jumped....josette
------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
From: jwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Jeff Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cats that JUMP (was fetch)
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:28:16 GMT
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

<1du1b0INN2di@FUNCTOR.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU>
<1992Nov13.235246.24011@rsg1.er.usgs.gov>

In <1992Nov13.235246.24011@rsg1.er.usgs.gov> ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve
Snyder) writes:

I once saw a cat who, from a sitting position and with a perfectly relaxed
expression, jumped on top of a refrigerator from the floor. An almost 6 foot
jump, with no pre-jump run. He never did it again that I know of, and I've
never seen any other cat come close. Amazing.
--
jwilson@ncratl.atlantaga.ncr.com (Jeff Wilson)
"Turkey Fact Number 12: Turkeys are filled with enough L-Tryptophan to knock
you on your sorry Thanksgiving ass." Tom Servo, MST3K

From: John.Seboldt@f31.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (John Seboldt)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: help! how to get car oil
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:23:02 -0600

On 11-15-92, tom betz wrote to All:

>------------------------------------
Some folks have recommended wearing oven mitts to protect your hands from 
the hazards of claws and teeth.
>------------------------------------

Hoo boy, wish I would have done that last time I gave Teager a bath.  Boy, 
was I mad when she got out and got real dirty once... it was a 
particularly shitty time in life, too, so I overdid it... I held this 
kitty firmly under my arm as I drew the water, saying angry stuff to her, 
chiding her for getting dirty, etc... and when I dunked her in, boy did I 
get bit -- right in the thick at the base of the thumb, probably pinched a 
nerve right to the bone!  I'm a keyboard player, and I lost sensation in a 
part of my thumb for a while (minor, but scary).

Moral:  1) Check your mental state first, and 2) wear gloves!

John



 * Freddie 1.2 * "Mao..."  "Mousie dung..."  -- quoted in B. Kliban, "Cats"

 * Origin: Dark Knight's Table (1:282/31)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: C14383@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Marie Cannizzaro)
Subject: Re: Help with pads of cat's feet
Organization: Motorola
Date: 23 Nov 1992 15:31:36 CST

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats