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From: dawes@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Dawes)
Subject: Re: AltGr bindings in clients (esp. xterm)
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 02:42:46 GMT

In article <657@fafnir.plusplus.is> heimir@plusplus.is (Heimir Thor Sverrisson) writes:
>Can somebody out there tell me how to alter the Alt-key bindings
>especially for xterm in XFree86.  I had this all working fine in the
>Roell X11R4 version (with a strange combination of ttymap and xmodmap).
>Xmodmap entries seem to work for the first two entries following the
>keycode, but I cannot get any modifier to work. For example:
>
>keycode 20 = odiaeresis Odiaeresis backslash
>
>I get my Oe's but the backslash won't show, I've tried to bind my Alt-keys
>to mod1 and mod3 without any luck.  What shall I do?
>BTW, I'm running ISC 3.0 on a 486.
>Thanks in advance for any help on this.

The following xmodmap commands should make your AltGr key work the way 
you require:

clear mod1
keysym Alt_R = Mode_switch
add mod1 = Alt_L
add mod5 = Mode_switch

David
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: sbakke@xcalibur.MITRE.org (Steve Bakke)
Subject: Suggestions for buying a graphics card.
Organization: MITRE Corp. McLean Va.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:45:53 GMT


I have at most $200 to spend on a graphics card for my system. I would
like it to support at least 1024x768 non interlaced.  Does anyone have
any suggestions on what type of card I should buy.


Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: martin@cs.curtin.edu.au (Martin Dougiamas)
Subject: Re: Anyone got XFree86 running on a Trident 9000?
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 09:39:08 GMT

dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.e.wexelblat) writes:
>raymond@es.ele.tue.nl (Raymond Nijssen) writes:
>> So here's his question: is the T9000 backward compatible, or does it require
>> whole new driver for XFree86? Or, did anybody succeed in getting XFree86-1.1
>> running with this adapter, and if so, what should he do?
>
>For reasons we never figured out, we were never able to get the Trident
>driver working on the 9000 chipset.  I have the tech manuals on both,
>and it should act like a 512K 8900C, but it doesn't.  Since I don't have
>a 9000 board (and returned the borrowed 8900C that I used), I haven't
>pursued it any farther.
   
We have a TVGA card that uses the Trident 8800CS chipset (at least that
what it says on the chip).  Will this card work with XFree86 1.1 ?
I can't find any documentation to say if it will or not.
    
Martin
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From: plph@quip.eecs.umich.edu (MarkMontague)
Subject: Adding support for new card -- instructions wanted
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 09:52:40 GMT

XFree86 gurus, please help!

I have XFree86-1.1 running on my Linux system in monochrome 640x480 generic
mode.  I WOULD *REALLY* LIKE TO GET IT RUNNING IN 1024x768 noninterlaced, 256
COLORS.

Problem is, I have a Compaq QVision 1024/e (Triton) EISA video card.  I
installed the mit X11R5 and XFree86-1.1 sources, but have _no_idea_ what
I need to do to add a support for a new card.  I *do* have the technical
reference manual for the card, and it seems to be very complete.

If someone could give me some advice, I would be very grateful.

Also, the card has a BitBLT engin, line drawing engin, hardware graphics
cursor, and support for tiling.  I presume that there is no way to take
advantage of these without extensive modifications of the server.

How does one go about adding support for a new graphics card to the server?

Thank you in advance for any help!

Mark Montague
plph@caen.engin.umich.edu
-------------------------
P.S.  If anyone else out there has a QVision, please contact me!
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From: roell@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Thomas Roell)
Subject: Re: 1280x1024 256(or >) colors
Organization: Inst. fuer Informatik, Technische Univ. Muenchen, Germany
	<1992Dec16.182141.18756@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
	<1992Dec17.195406.12652@lucrece.robots.ox.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 12:55:21 GMT

>The 911 and 924 are indeed limited to 1MB of memory, XS3 also uses 256k as a
>cache so the maximum screen is 1024x768 (in 256 colors). The chips do
>support 16 color modes at higher resolution, but I don't know of any cfb
>code for 16 colors.

The 911 & 924 in fact do support 1280x1024 in 16 colors, but only
interlaced. And I simply won't recommend you to use an interlaced
display with respect to your eyes. 

BUT, the 911 & 924 are very fast in the 16 color mode, since they have
to work only on half the memory compared to the 256 color modes. That
means you get around 90000 xstones in that mode. Hence for special
applications this makes sence.

I don't know whether the XS3 server does support it, but I'm sure SCO
does, and I think the SGCS supports this mode as well.

On the other hand the 911/924 support only 1MB of VRAM (also
internally limited by the architecture) which means you cannot have
more than 256 colors AND have acceleration. You could use the SVGA
compatable 32k/64k modes, but that would be either very slow or the
resolution to small (64x480).

The also mentioned 801/805/928 do support up to 4MB (with some
specialRAMDACs like the Bt485). The graphics engine of the upper chips
does support 4bpp/8bpp/16bpp/32bpp. This would give you up to
1024x768x16.7M which seems to be acceptable for me in the future. But
be carefull about the 801/805, which are DRAM based. I doubt whether
they will signifcantly exceed the bandwidth required for
1280x1024x256. Hence they might not be able to display
1024x768x16bpp/32bpp.

- Thomas
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From: danield@unlv.edu (Daniel Z. Davidson)
Subject: Help, need info IBM 8515 Monitor
Summary: Don't have the manual, need the info
Keywords: X386 IBM 8515
Organization: The Collective Insanity
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 21:27:50 GMT

Hello netters.

Recently, I installed the XFree86-1.1 binaries from blancmange.ma.utexas.edu
on my Interactive 2.02 system. 

The X386mono server worked correctly with my Mono monitor, But the resolution
left a lot to be desired.  So I barrowed an IBM 8515 monitor from a friend
to play with the Color server (Hopefuly at 1024x765) and see how much better
that would look.

Well, I've hit a snag. The Person I barrowed the monitor from can't find the
manual, so I have had no luck figuring out what to put in the Mode lines
of the Xconfig file.  I have tried the Standard lines that came with the 
Xconfig.sample file in the Distribution with no Luck.  Would Some kind sole
who has one of these monitors please send the the timing info on it, or a copy
of your Xconfig file?

If It makes a diference, I am using an ATI VGA Wonder XL Video card with 
1mb of memory.

By the way, These monitor and vedio card Xconfig's would be a great thing
to archive somewhere....

Daniel

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From: roell@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Thomas Roell)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: Re: 32K or 16M colours?
Date: 22 Dec 92 13:06:19 GMT
	<TMH.92Dec20235423@keks.first.gmd.de>
	<1992Dec21.032715.14701@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
Organization: Inst. fuer Informatik, Technische Univ. Muenchen, Germany

>> If they are (which I doubt) they would be riciculously slow. Also
>> since they usually trade resolution for pixel depth that means X on
>> something like 640x480 (yuck!).
>> 
>Take a look at how the 24-bit SVGA's are implemented.  Packed 3-byte pixels.
>It's going to make working on them rediculous.

I don't think 3byte pixels is that rediculus if you look at the memory
contraints given in todays SVGAs. But the price to pay is VERY high.
You can only deal with 24bpp (opposed to 32bpp) by using 32bit
reads/writes. A simple statistic shows that about every second access
will be not correctly aligned and hence at least 2 32bit accesses to
video memroy will be necessary. Having this in mind a 24bpp
framebuffer will be at leat 1.5 times slower than a 32bpp. This is
really a mess ...

- Thomas
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From: adelt@imada.ou.dk (Adel Shavandi)
Subject: Compiling Intervies 3.1 for Linux, remind ?
Summary: Compiling Interviews 3.1 for Linux, help !
Keywords: Compiling Interviews 3.1 for Linux, remind ?
Organization: Dept. of Math. & Computer Science, Odense University, Denmark
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 13:31:40 GMT


Whwn compiling interviews 3.1 for Linux, I lack the directory /usr/local/lib/remind 
and the files expected in it! I don't have them under linux and I don't know
how I can compile interviews without these! 

I will really appraciate any help/hints!






				Happy new year,

						Ade'l


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From: dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.e.wexelblat)
Subject: Re: Cardinal Windows Accelerator, 24 bit
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 01:47:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.200802.879@sol.cs.wmich.edu> stempien@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Brian Stempien) writes:
> Hello!
>   I am purchasing a new system tomorrow and the video card that comes on it is a
> Cardinal 24bit windows accelerator. About the only thing that the sales lady
> could tell me about it was that is uses a Cirus (sp??) accelerator chip. I don`t
> know if this means it has a normal VGA chip set plus the accelerator or what.
> I looked up Cardinal boards in a magizine I have and it said nothing
> about a 24bit board. Either it is new, or the ad is wrong. My main questions are,
> does anyone have the board? and if so does it work with Xfree? I don't need 24
> bit color support or anything like that in X, just a running server (mono is even
> fine). Thanks in advance for any help.
> --
>                                                               Brian Stempien
>                                                  Western Michigan University
>                                      
>                                                Email:  stempien@cs.wmich.edu
>                                                Voice:  (616)-387-5848
> 
> 

We have no experience with the new Cirrus chipset, and XFree86 doesn't
currently support accelerator chips at all.  Since most (all?) accelerator
chipsets also support VGA (some have SVGA), you should at a bare minimum
be able to use the mono server.  Please let us know how things work out;
if there are simple things we can fix, we will.  Send email to
<xfree86@physics.su.oz.au>.

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From: rich@Rice.edu (& Murphey)
Subject: Re: COM port conflict in XFree86
Reply-To: Rich@rice.edu
Organization: Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering, Rice
	University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:53:19 GMT

>>>>> In article <1992Dec21.075000.10043@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, galbrait@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (GALBRAITH JOHN) writes:
John> Hey, does anybody know why my serial mouse (Microsoft type) does not 
John> work properly when I am using the modem?  The mouse is in COM1 and the
John> baud rate is selected by the server - I don't tell it what it should be
John> in the Xconfig.  The modem is in COM2 at 2400 baud. 

Yes, to fix this apply the patch to com.c in the file
/usr/X386/lib/X11/etc/386bsd.patch in the XFree86 binary distribution.

Or apply the identical patch, patch00045, in the patch kit.

This fixes select() on the com ports.

John> 	Normally, the mouse is fine.  When I am on the modem, however,
John> the server will only respond to the mouse after a keypress.  So, you can
John> adjust the mouse, hit a key to see it go, adjust the mouse some more, hit 
John> another key...
John> 	To make matters more confusing, the mouse works fine when I am
John> doing a zmodem download.

Christoph Robitschko (chmr@fstgds01.tu-graz.ac.at) wrote:

ttselect() calculates unit = minor(dev), and uses this as an index in
com_tty. Because this index is different from that used in the com
driver, select() on /dev/com1 looks at /dev/com2 and select() on
/dev/com2 looks at an undefined entry in com_tty and returns always
true.

John> 	Is this something that XFree is doing, or the operating system?
John> I am running 386BSD 0.1.  If this is an operating system question, I will
John> ask elsewhere...

John> 	Thanks.
John> John Galbraith
John> galbrait@rintintin.colorado.edu

Good luck, Rich
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From: cpcahil@vti.com (Conor P. Cahill)
Subject: Re: Anyone heard of Pittsburgh Powercomputing?
Organization: Virtual Technologies Inc.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:15:44 GMT

evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes:

>This company is listed amongst the companies providing third-party X
>servers for Univel, right next to the more-familiar MetroLink and SGCS.

PPC sells high performance X servers for the high end cards (things
like 34020's, #9's, etc).  We have their server for the Artist Graphics XJS
card and it seems to be fine (haven't had any problem with it).

Unless they have changed the way they do things, they only sell a server.
They do not sell the entire X package.  They expect you to get the standard
X distribution from your vendor and buy the server from them.  

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From: pspeer@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: ATI bus mouse with Linux and X
Date: 22 Dec 92 16:57:03 EST
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Physics

I am trying to get Linux up and running X using the SLS package. My problem
is that it comes up fine but the ATI bus mouse is dead. I have tried using
"Busmouse    /dev/mouse" in Xconfig, tried mknod /dev/mouse c 10 0, which
I saw in the FAQ, all to no avail. The mouse is setup to use IRQ2 and works
fine under DOS. One thing that looks funny is that when Linux boots it says
Logitech mouse detected and installed, is that right? Anyhow, I went ahead
and tried various combinations of /dev/bmouselogitec in my Xconfig, still no
go. Can anyone help me out with this?

Pat
From: ilan343@violet.berkeley.edu (Geraldo Veiga)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: Xconfig timings for a Toshiba laptop
Date: 26 Dec 1992 06:45:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu

Does anyone have sample monitor timings for a laptop LCD screen.
More specifically, I am trying to install X386 1.1b (under ISC 2.2.1)
in a Toshiba 4400DSXC (color LCD, with 480x640x256 colors)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.e.wexelblat)
Subject: Re: Customizable mfb Proposal
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:52:27 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.174633.9453@athena.mit.edu> dmatic@athena.mit.edu (Davor Matic) writes:
> ----------------------
> 
> 
> If anyone is interested in doing this, has commenst and/or suggestions,
> please reply...
> 
> 

I would suggest that this discussion be crossposted to comp.windows.x, as
you're likely to find some serious experts there who don't read this group.

We would be glad to incorporate this into XFree86 when you are done; it
may become possible to do two heads with this (one SVGA, one Hercules).
We invite anyone working on this to join the XFree86 beta test group.
Send email to xfree86@physics.su.oz.au, if you are interested.  We can
set up additional email lists for specific topics; we have already done
this for the folks working on SVR3 shared libraries.

BTW - there's at least one of the high-end mono cards (1600x1200 or something)
that works this way.  Rich Murphey was starting to look into this.  You
might want to contact him at <rich@lamprey.utmb.edu>

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From: dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.e.wexelblat)
Subject: Re: Anyone got XFree86 running on a Trident 9000?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 19:55:37 GMT

In article <martin.725621948@marsh> martin@cs.curtin.edu.au (Martin Dougiamas) writes:
> dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.e.wexelblat) writes:
> >raymond@es.ele.tue.nl (Raymond Nijssen) writes:
> >> So here's his question: is the T9000 backward compatible, or does it require
> >> whole new driver for XFree86? Or, did anybody succeed in getting XFree86-1.1
> >> running with this adapter, and if so, what should he do?
> >
> >For reasons we never figured out, we were never able to get the Trident
> >driver working on the 9000 chipset.  I have the tech manuals on both,
> >and it should act like a 512K 8900C, but it doesn't.  Since I don't have
> >a 9000 board (and returned the borrowed 8900C that I used), I haven't
> >pursued it any farther.
>    
> We have a TVGA card that uses the Trident 8800CS chipset (at least that
> what it says on the chip).  Will this card work with XFree86 1.1 ?
> I can't find any documentation to say if it will or not.
>     

No.  XFree86 only support the TVGA8900C chipset.  Not the 8800, not the
8900B, and not the 9000 (although we have hopes of getting the latter to
work).  Send me email if you want to know why the 8800B is not supported.
The bottom line is that all of Trident's chipset suffer from major brain
damage.

> Martin
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: jtsilla@damon.ccs.northeastern.edu (James Tsillas)
Subject: SVR3 Shared Libs (reply to Stu Donaldson email bounced)
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA
Distribution: comp
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 00:16:39 GMT


The following reply to Stu Donaldson's message bounced (sorry, I forgot
the _reason_ why..) I am posting it in case he reads this newsgroup and
for general information.

Date: Sat, 2 Jan 93 18:23:24 -0500
From: jtsilla@damon.ccs.northeastern.edu (James Tsillas)
Message-Id: <9301022323.AA19102@damon>
To: stu@mav.com
Subject: XFree86 and ISC 2.2.1

   Date: Fri, 1 Jan 93 02:03 PST
   From: stu@mav.com (Stu Donaldson)

   Jim,
    I have been using X386 1.1b for 2 years now, and am in the process of
    upgrading to XFree86 and X11R5.  I started by grabbing the Binary's
    fir XFree86 on ISC, and found to my surprise that they didn't use
    the shared libraries.  So I blew them away, and decided to go for
    the source and re-make it.  (I had made X386 1.1b on R4).  I have
    now applied fix-17, and the 1.1 patches for XFree86 to the R5 tree,
    and find in my going through x386.cf, and the .tmpl files that there
    is no defined way of createing shared libraries on ISC 2.2, or SysVR3.

    How best can I accomplish this?  I don't have room for all the X binaries
    without using shared libraries.  As it is, I had to remove several things
    that we normally need to keep on-line in order to build X in the first place.

    Does a patch exist to allow this?  Any idea how difficult a fix this really is?

	   Thanks...

		   -- Stu --
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XFree861.2 will be announced at the X Technical Conference this Jan 20
by David Wexelblat and myself. It will contain shared libraries for most
of the X libraries plus a toolkit to allow quick porting of shared
libraries from any archive library. All this work was contributed by
Thomas Wolfram.

Please wait for this release - it would be very confusing to have
multiple shared library versions floating around :-)

best regards,
-Jim.
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From: veit@du9ds3.fb9dv.uni-duisburg.de (Holger Veit)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: Re: COM port conflict in XFree86
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:29:58 GMT
Organization: Uni-Duisburg FB9 Datenverarbeitung
Reply-To: veit@du9ds3.fb9dv.uni-duisburg.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: du9ds3.fb9dv.uni-duisburg.de

In <1992Dec21.075000.10043@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> galbrait@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (GALBRAITH JOHN) writes:

>Hey, does anybody know why my serial mouse (Microsoft type) does not 
>work properly when I am using the modem?  The mouse is in COM1 and the
>baud rate is selected by the server - I don't tell it what it should be
>in the Xconfig.  The modem is in COM2 at 2400 baud. 
>	Normally, the mouse is fine.  When I am on the modem, however,
>the server will only respond to the mouse after a keypress.  So, you can
>adjust the mouse, hit a key to see it go, adjust the mouse some more, hit 
>another key...
>	To make matters more confusing, the mouse works fine when I am
>doing a zmodem download.
>	Is this something that XFree is doing, or the operating system?
>I am running 386BSD 0.1.  If this is an operating system question, I will
>ask elsewhere...
>	Thanks.
>John Galbraith
>galbrait@rintintin.colorado.edu

This is a known (and solved) problem of 386bsd. This is the "select" problem,
which is referred in the 386bsd buglist as MISC009, and it is related to
different minor number handling in the com driver and the tty interface.
This is corrected in one of the patches of the patchkit. If you have not
only the "X patches" for 386bsd, but a real PL 58 kernel, this should no longer
occur.

Holger
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