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From: jordan@castor.cs.uga.edu (Chuck Jordan)
Subject: Re: dennis leary
Organization: University of Georgia
Distribution: world,local
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:07:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.151609@ece.arizona.edu>, evans@ece.arizona.edu writes:
|> Can you post this stuff somewhere else?

Where would you suggest, evans@ece.arizona.edu?  Actually, NOTHING is off-
topic in a group about MST3K, because they have at one time, or will in the
near future, make a reference to EVERY single thing on the planet.  Also,
the Best Brains, being comedians themselves, make frequent reference to other
comedians, so a discussion about comedians is especially appropriate.

Besides, somebody else's attempts to get the group back on-topic seemed to
fail.  So why don't we take another vote?  What's your favorite little shot
from the movie that they show at the end of each episode?  Mine is from Master
Ninja II, when they show Lee deviously stroking Max's gerbil.

Oh, and put me on that letter, too.

Chuck "You post.  I'm bitter." Jordan

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"Holy jumping Mother O'God in a side-car with chocolate jimmies and a
 lobster bib!  WE'RE ON OUR WAY!"
					-- Sam & Max, freelance police
From: rdunkle@engin.umich.edu (R. M. Dunkle)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
Subject: Re: tonight's movie
Date: 23 Jan 1993 07:38:32 GMT
Organization: Campus Computing Sites, University of Michigan
Distribution: world,local
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In article <1993Jan22.130401@ece.arizona.edu> evans@ece.arizona.edu (Glen Evans) writes:
>
>
>What is it?


	Gamera VS Gaos, starting in about 20 minutes.
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From: karpen@nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil (Judy Karpen)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
Subject: Re: Free at last!
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:11:57 GMT
Followup-To: alt.tv.mst3k
Organization: NRL

In article <C1HnBx.JMu@moscow.uidaho.edu>, eingerma@zeus.mrc.uidaho.edu
(Tim the Enchanter) wrote:
> 
[stuff deleted]
> I've wanted to ask this question for 4 months now so here it goes:
> In what episode do Joel and the bot's make the remark " look at my
> crotch..look at my crotch.." in regards to some cheerleaders? 

It's the ever-popular "Home Economics Story", shown as a short accompanying
"Viking Women & the Sea Serpent" (or is it "vs. the Sea Serpent"? who
cares?).
Perhaps the best MST3K experiment of all time......

Anyone gonna post the February schedule RSN????? Please????? 

Judy Karpen                "pushing back the frontiers of science"
karpen@nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil  Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC USA
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
From: pamuelle@ingr.com ( Phil Mueller )
Subject: Re: Josh on a soap? 
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 03:44:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.200948.520@mixcom.com> friese <friese@mixcom.mixcom.com> writes:
>
>.  Lo and behold, under "One Life To Live",
>and actor named Josh Weinstein was listed as being signed on to play
>a frat buddy of one of the main characters.
>

Probably the Simpsons writer :-)

-- 
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From: kneale@noao.edu (ruth a. kneale)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
Subject: Bride of the Monster
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:31:38 GMT
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson, AZ, USA

"Kiss the Bird!"

*chuckle* that and the amazing inflatable oh-my-ghod-it's-a-monster
octopus still have me laughing.

anyone know what's playing this coming weekend?

-- 
ruth a. kneale          Reality used to be a friend of mine.
rkneale@noao.edu                   -PMD
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Classical Music?
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:22:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.053253.6584@news.stolaf.edu> eblom@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Kate E Eblom) writes:
>In article <C1BnAs.933@world.std.com> tfish@world.std.com (Tex Fish) writes:
>>In article <00967094.B8A525E0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 973fquades@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>>>I was listening to the local classical music station the other day and in a
>>>commercial touting their wide variety of music, the announcer referred to a
>>>piece called "The Return of Laemon Kinan."  Has *anyone* ever heard of this
>>>music?  If so, who is the composer?  Is there a recording we should all
>>>know about?
>>
>>	I got the feeling from watching it that "The Day the Earth Froze"
>>was a film version of a traditional Swedish folk tale, albeit a pretty
>>stupid one, and thusly it makes sense somebody dead and Swedish would have
>>written about it.  I would like to hear it, though, just for the absurdity
>>of it all.
>>
>>					-tfish@world.std.com
>>
>NONONONONONONONONONO
>This is a Finnish Folk Tale, an interpretation of "The Kalevala".
>I realize that I should relax, but "The Kalevala" is an important
>part of finnish heritage, as it is the first book ever written in 
>finnish. Jeesh, the finns can't catch a break...
>TDtEF sucked, btw, but from a cultural standpoint, I was intrigued.
>
>Sorry about the blowup, but we've lost all the wars...it kind of grates
>on you after a while...
>
>TTFN The Woodman
>
>

Yuo cannot blame the finns for the wretched quality of this movie. AIP 
<and probably Roger Corman. Just a hunch...> bought this unreleased turkey
for a song, reshot dialogue scnes with American speaking stand-ins, re-edited
the pee out of it, and released this abortion unto the world.

the finns may have made the film <it WAS a Finn/Russo co-production>, but
only AIP could have made it what it is!!!!

Pax
					--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
From: tfish@world.std.com (Tex Fish)
Subject: Re: Classical Music?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:25:39 GMT

In article <00967094.B8A525E0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 973fquades@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>I was listening to the local classical music station the other day and in a
>commercial touting their wide variety of music, the announcer referred to a
>piece called "The Return of Laemon Kinan."  Has *anyone* ever heard of this
>music?  If so, who is the composer?  Is there a recording we should all
>know about?

	I got the feeling from watching it that "The Day the Earth Froze"
was a film version of a traditional Swedish folk tale, albeit a pretty
stupid one, and thusly it makes sense somebody dead and Swedish would have
written about it.  I would like to hear it, though, just for the absurdity
of it all.

					-tfish@world.std.com

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					-tfish@world.std.com
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
From: somnathb@wam.umd.edu (Somnath Banerjee)
Subject: TOM SERVO'S head!!
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 04:10:17 GMT

     I haven't written for a couple of weeks now, so here goes...
First thanks to everyone who responded to my question about Joel and
what gender he prefers.  (I'm so happy!happy!happy!)  Second I'm trying
to find BRIAN HUNT he was going to get me some tapes from the first
season of MST, so if your reading this Brian I'm back in Maryland so
please get in touch with me!!!!  By the way Beth if your reading this,
"I MISS YOU!" Thanks for all your wonderful hospitality!!  MY next topic
goes out to all you folks that live in the MInnesota area:  I'm very
serious about taking a road trip to the Twin Cities, AND would really
appreciate any one of my fellow MST fans hospitality, because I know
absolutely no one in Minnesota!  I would hope to get up there around
April 11th through April 18th, Can someone please take a poor girl in??
     Lastly,  I was shopping (of all things) the other night and I
started to walk past this candy store, but something caught my eye.
I went in to get a closer look.. and there it was "TOM SERVO'S HEAD!" I
couldn't believe it! So I chatted with the guy in the store about it and
it turns out he was a fan of MST also.  Anyway,  I bought some jelly
beans (to stick inside) and TOM'S "head".  For those of you intrested in
purchasing one of these useless but adorable little items, they're $8.95
at CANDY EXPRESS and they come in many colors and the narrow "haircut"
version.
     Does any one have the list of shows for February??  Don't give me a
hard time about this eiether but I think these last three shows have
been pretty lame (except HIRED, which was a riot!)  AND does anyone know
when Joel will be on Saturday Night Live again?  I can't get enough of
him!  Thanks for reading!  Please respond soon!

                        Sleppy-eyed-caberet-neophyte-girl,

                                Catherine M. Hurley

                    e-mail address  somnathb@wam.umd.edu.

                    reg. address  4008 HILLWOOD CT.
                                BELTSVILLE, MD. 20705

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From: nydec@sun.pcl.ac.uk (Charles Heath)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Smeg again.
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:27:01 GMT
Organization: University of Westminster

Oh for God's sake!

How many times does this need to be posted?

Haven't you read the FAQ answers file?

SMEG is not any abbreviation at all.

Smeg comes from the word Smegma.

Smega refers to the unpleasant fluid that is found under the foreskin of a 
male human's penis!

Sorry about that, but it had to be said!

Happy now?

"Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast!"

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From: tsmaster@media.mit.edu (David LeCompte)
Subject: Re: Smeg again.
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 20:04:41 GMT

In article <C1BL9K.2wt@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> glink@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (gary g link) writes:
>POSH...
>check it out over on alt.folklore.urban.  There's a FAQ.  Port Out -
>Starboard Home is just a bit of folklore.

As is For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge.

It's not an 18th century acronym, it comes from German/Old English. As
do most of our "four letter words".

But do move this sort of smeg to AFU, as that's one thing that they're
there for.

Not a flame, just a pointer.

Dave

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From: Steve.Lake@brunel.ac.uk (Steve M Lake)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Season 6..a few words
Keywords: gkjhflj
Date: 25 Jan 93 11:01:54 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK

>> 
>   The *final* series of Red Dwarf will go into production on the six
>   consecutive Saturdays from February 20th.
>   I have friends going to the first episode, and like they did twice
>   last year, are going without me because I am at Uni!!! Cheeek!!!

>  So expect season 6 to be ready around summer (ugh, hope it gets an
>   autumn transmission time though)

>   Jason.      

 Hang on a mo. Firstly, *final* ????? Where did you get this info ?
 Is it a reliable source, or a "friend of a friend" ?  Secondly, I was
under the impression that they had ALREADY filmed series 6, and it was
going to be shown in March.  Thirdly, your friends sound like total
gits for not taking you just because you are at uni. And Finally,
whats wrong with summer transmission ?

OBTW, I know this has not got much to do with Red Dwarf, BUT, did
anyone except me see Gordan Brittas (Chris Barrie) on Noels House
Party last saturday ?? Has he put on weight, or was it just my
imagination acting up again ???

- Steve
From: dyhec@westminster.ac.uk (Jon Roch-berry)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Red Dwarf Meets Star Trek
Date: 28 Jan 93 12:31:06 GMT
Organization: University of Westminster

In article <C1H3wx.12n@compsci.liverpool.ac.uk> scst91@csc.liv.ac.uk (Mr. R.M. Wood) writes:
>Read the ENTIRE first one of these, but only the RD bits of the
>second one.
>
>The second one of these was MILES better then the first 'effort'
>(2800 lines and it never once occurred to the writers that it
>was crap!).
>
>They both suffered (the 2nd only slightly) from simply re-hashing
>old RD jokes instead of making up their own.  Come on lads, you're
>supposed to make up a story in the STYLE of RD - not just nick
>jokes (and storylines : Polymorph, Restoring Holly's IQ etc.) from
>the series.

Hold on, are we talking about the one distributed on FidoNet as REDTREK.ZIP
where they use NDD to restore Holly's IQ, beat the Polymorph in the Holodeck,
and use the transporter to bring back Crissie?  The first time I read it, I laughed a lot & really enjoyed it.

Ok, it wasn't *so* good when I re-read it last week.
>
>The first was also too childish (I often get accused of being too
>childish myself, but some of your stuff even made me cringe
>(Ghostbusters, Mario, the rest of it)).
>
Ok, it does look that way now, but it was quite fun when it was first posted.

I assume the 2nd one is the one posted a few weeks ago, that was `to be
continued...'?  Has it been, or have I missed the 2nd post?

I think both suffer from something that writers often take a while to learn -
you don't have to have something happening all the time.  Its ok to fill in
details & take it easy, rather than having each plot point one after the other.
I thought both were a bit frantic.  Having said that there were some very funny
parts in both that were right in character & worthy of Grant & NAylor
themselves (or is that going to far?! :)

Keep up the work lads


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From: dyhec@westminster.ac.uk (Jon Roch-berry)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Smeg again.
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:37:10 GMT
Organization: University of Westminster

>Someone told me POSH was an acronym of some sort also.

I'm sure there will be many replies to the above - but just in case....

In the days when India was part of the British Empire, important people
travelling to and from India on Ocean liners (the principal form of transport
before aircraft) used to have their tickets stamped P.O.S.H, standing for Port
Out, Starboard Home, indicating the location of their cabins on the journeys.
These were on the opposite side of the shit to the sun, and hence the coolest &
most comfortable.

Intresting, innit?!  :-)

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From: jmb@socrates.demon.co.uk (James M Bridson)
Subject: Re: "Season" vs. "Series" 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Technicolor Yawn Factory
Reply-To: jmb@socrates.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 01:40:22 +0000

In article <C17799.D4n@newcastle.ac.uk> B.J.Williams@newcastle.ac.uk writes:

>ensalada@cats.ucsc.edu (Kevin Charles Rubio) writes:
>
>
>>The word `series' generally is used differently on each side, similar to
>>the words `braces' and `suspenders'.  Although, come to think of it,
>>I've never figured out what what we call braces are called in the UK.
>>(People in the UK: Here, `braces' are metal teeth-straightening devices,
>>whereas `suspenders' are braces.)
>
>We call 'em 'braces'. Another example of the peculiarities of the English
>language. Over here, however, 'suspenders' are what hold women's stockings up
>and are hence thought of as being rather naughty. What do you call them?
>
>Barry.
>

I call them horny.

-- 
  James Bridson, jmb@socrates.demon.co.uk
From: ensalada@cats.ucsc.edu (Kevin Charles Rubio)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: `Polymorph' transcription
Date: 21 Jan 1993 10:59:12 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Reply-To: keeper@deeptht.armory.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


In article <1993Jan21.051047.11304@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> barnett@mummy.agsm.unsw.OZ.AU (Glen Barnett) writes:
>>Kryten:  It's got my guilt!  I have lost the single emotion which prevents
>>	 my transgressing the mores, [morays?] and matters of civilised
>                               mores is correct, sounds like morays 

There was no question about `mores' -- the question is what he says
after that.  It sounds likes `morays' but I could not find the word
in a dictionary under any possible spelling.  A spelling and definition
are what is being asked for here.

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From: ensalada@cats.ucsc.edu (Kevin Charles Rubio)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: `Polymorph' transcription
Date: 21 Jan 1993 13:19:26 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Reply-To: keeper@deeptht.armory.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


In article <1993Jan21.112032.9603@ericsson.se> etljmme@etlxd30.ericsson.se writes:
>>There was no question about `mores' -- the question is what he says
>>after that.  It sounds likes `morays' but I could not find the word
>>in a dictionary under any possible spelling.  A spelling and definition
>>are what is being asked for here.
>The words are "...mores, morals and manners..."

Then it's a hell of a mispronunciation of `morals'
on the part of the actor.

Hang about ...  Maybe he's saying "Morals, mores and manners."
Because I had only seen `mores' written, I had always assumed
its pronunciation wrong, so when Robert spoke the line, and I
knew what the line meant, I was quick to stick `mores' in where
I thought it fit -- thinking it was monosyllabic.  They way he
speaks when playing Kryten is such that he would indeed pronounce
`morals' as just about one syllable.

I think we've got it, in a roundabout way.  I'll give it a listen
to verify, to be sure.

Now then, what about the chicken dish Cat mentions?  Surely there
must be someone here who eats what I call `complicated food'...
Myself, I prefer things simple and separate.  Sirloin Steak.
New York Steak.  Pork.  et cetera -- none of this fancy crap.
But someone out there in Red Dwarf land must eat it ... ah! maybe
many can but just don't know the spelling.  If it's a French word,
describe the dish and I'll look up the French word.  hmm.

some help on the objects -- particularly the two balls, one of which is
a tennis ball, the other of which is a somethingelse fuzzy ball -- still
is needed too.

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From: D.G.Legros@bradford.ac.uk (DG LEGROS)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Cyberzone.
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:40:31 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 92356597@ccw313
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Andrew Payne (xuegxae@csv.warwick.ac.uk) wrote:
: 
: I'd just like to say what a seriously sad program Cyberzone is. What are
: the rather rowdy audience so excited about? And what the heck does 'Awooga'
: mean?
: 
: But never mind, just goes to show -- a small budget isnt everything.
: 
: 
: 
: 
: ========================================================================
:    _/_/_/   _/     _/ _/_/_/_/   _/      _/   xuegxae@csv.warwick.ac.uk
:  _/      _/ _/_/   _/ _/      _/ _/      _/
:  _/      _/ _/ _/  _/ _/      _/ _/      _/  Consumption of hamburgers
:  _/_/_/_/_/ _/  _/ _/ _/      _/   _/_/_/    is increasing, while the
:  _/      _/ _/   _/_/ _/      _/     _/      penguin population of the
:  _/      _/ _/     _/ _/_/_/_/       _/      Antartic is decreasing.

Awooga is sound made by a klaxon.  The cat said it in RD when the Short 
Red One was going to self destruct and the Cat came in saying (approximate
quote - please don't flame)  "Hey, they're playing my tune - the Awooga Waltz"

Hope this helps


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From: jimmy@pyra.co.uk (Jimmy Aitken)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Red Dwarf USA jpeg posted
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:36:43 GMT
Reply-To: jimmy@pyramid.com (Jimmy Aitken)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Ltd.


I've just posted a JPEG image of the US cast of the pilot for the
series that was not made.  It's in alt.binaries.pictures.misc and only
in JPEG form.  If you want to convert to GIF or something else, please
look for the FAQ for that group for information on how to do it.  I
will not reply to requests for the image to be sent/resent.

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From: G.M.Suddes@newcastle.ac.uk (Gareth Suddes)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Lister not going into stasis
Date: 26 Jan 93 11:20:00 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

ae-a@minster.york.ac.uk writes:

>In the episode in series 1 called future echoes,
>Lister tries to go into stasis during the 3 million year journey back to earth.
>In the end he doesn't, how come?

 The book explains that since he now knows he's got to be around for the
events he's seen future echoes of, he really has no choice but to stay out of
stasis till these events have happened.
Gareth
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From: lazuli@byron.u.washington.edu (Fred Sloniker)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Take the Fifth!
Date: 25 Jan 1993 21:08:06 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: byron.u.washington.edu
Summary: Not having it before me...

Julian H Fong wrote:

>>	With all this discussion about "season" vs. "series" going on, I
>>thought I may as well ask a related question that's been bothering me for a
>>while -- I was surprised to see the expression "Take the Fifth!" spoken in a
>>British series.  The line was spoken by the Cat in "Justice" to Lister in
>>response to Kryten's question, "Would you describe the accused as a
>>friend?"  Just how much relevance does the fifth amendment to the U.S.
>>Constitution have in Britain?

Then Slartibartfast wrote:

>I had absolutely no idea what that line meant before this...
>
>So what exactly *is* the Fifth Amendment???
>
>(Shows how much relevance it has over here... ;-) 

Well, I don't have a copy of the Bill of Rights handy, but I can give you a
good enough one to understand the phrase.  The Fifth Amendment states, among
other things, that no one is required to give testimony in a court of law
that might lead to self-incrimination; thus, the prosecution can't ask the
person on trial if he did what he's being accused of, or indeed any other
question of doing illegal acts.  Thus, 'taking the fifth' means, in slang,
not answering a question because it would get you in trouble.  Clear?  (:3

				---Fred M. Sloniker, who doesn't even play
				      a lawyer on TV, but is a US citizen
				   L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer
				   lazuli@u.washington.edu