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From: steve@dcdwest.uucp (Steve Meloche)
Subject: Re: AdSpeed and MegaMidgetRacer Compatibility
Organization: ITT Aerospace/Communications Division - West
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 07:26:53 GMT

In article <22JUL199210513604@zeus.tamu.edu> cpw8034@zeus.tamu.edu (ALAN CHIPIN WEN (409)693-2924) writes:
>I'm about to invest in an inexpensive accelerator for my B2000hd.  I'd
>really appreciate it if someone could tell me what their experiences with
>either AdSpeed or MegaMidgeRacer is.  Primarily for compatibility and
>performace to price ratio (in your opinion).  
>
>I basically use A-MaxII (v2.06), Digi-View, Digi-Paint, and PageStream2.2.
>If you own ANY kind of accelerator (especially Adspeed and MMR) and one of
>the mentioned packages, I'd like to hear from you about what you like or
>dislike.  Thanks!
>
>alan

I use my AdSpeed with Digi-View, Digi-Paint, PageStream, Deluxe Paint,
games, telecom programs, etc., and never had any trouble.  There were one or
two programs that ran a little oddly (one Badge killer demo did not
syncronize its musical score correctly, for instance) but generally it
produced a nearly 2x speedup in most productive programs.  I had some
problems with it when I added a Rejuvinator to my A1000 and I am currently
getting a new unit from ICD (who are very friendly and helpful - even
exchanging my unit when I bought it used from someone off the net).  I heard
one other person complaining in c.s.a.marketplace about a similar
compatability issue, but my followup post did not produce any details from
him so I don't know if his were like mine.  Even my problems were not too
serious.  When the system gets warm the Rejuvinator's kickstart disk mode
doesn't always work, even if the AdSpeed was set to 7 MHz mode with no
cache.  Also, I just noticed that running DNET would cause the Adspeed to
switch between fast and slow mode constantly (I only noticed that by leaving
the Adspeed window up and watching it go 7 MHz, 14 MHz, 7 MHz, 14 MHz . . .
. . a very odd problem.  I am hoping that the problems will go away when I
get the new unit with the newer PAL in it.  Anybody else have problems like
this?

Anyway, I am basically very happy with the unit.  It is nice to have an
accelerator that will run any software (since it has a fall back mode).  At
around $150 for a 2x speedup, it's not a bad deal at all.  If you need a
faster accelerator or a FPU, though, get a MMR.

   			   
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt)
Subject: Re: @$#^@$%# 2.04!
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 10:23:19 GMT

I suggest that you sell one of those many A1000's, and buy a quickstart
and 2.04 upgrade kit...

failing that, there is always the (illegal) option of upgrading your
1000 to 1 to 2 megs of memory and zkicking 2.04 into operation.

Actually, while it might be technically illegal, I don't think CBM
would object if you bought a 2.04 ROM and then zkicked...

Thom

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: rrizzo@csws19.ic.sunysb.edu (Robert J Rizzo)
Subject: Need HELP with 2090A hard drive controller...
Originator: rrizzo@csws19.ic.sunysb.edu
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:59:33 GMT

I just picked up an old A2000 real cheap and it came with 3 (yes three)
2090A hard drive controllers.  What do I do to get them up and running
(aside from plugging them in)?  Isn't there some sort of startup-sequence
thingy I need to do to get them to boot?  Once I have them tested feel free
to make any offers since I won't need all three.

Thanks,

Bob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: u894776@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (James McCoull)
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 04:19:27 GMT

jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Young) writes:

>That is VERY possible!  But C= spent so much money making CDTV 
>they took money away from A4000 project.  Even Kickstart 3.0/39.
>text shows AA chips only have double speed so C= MUST spend
>more money to design better chips.

Double speed? eek! I would hope for a factor of between 4x and 8x.
You get 2x speedup for doubling bus width, say 1.5x for page mode access
and say another factor of 2 or so for using faster ram.  Also I hope
they add proper support for drawing polygons...  With the current
chip set... the simple way of drawing polygons using the clear bit map,
render lines into it, and then fill & copy to destination - is slower than
using smart cpu code...
Also a blitter queing processor would be *much* appreciated... so
we dont have to use busy blitter waiting or interupts - which are too costly
on cisc processors such as the 680x0.

Anyway the blitter cant be any worse than the one in the Falcon eh!
I hear its just the one in the STe... and anyone who has seen that
will know what a joke that is...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Commodore Flybacks
From: Mark.Rozak@afitamy.fidonet.org (Mark Rozak)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 20:00:36 EST
Organization: AFIT Amiga Users BBS(AFITAUG), Dayton, Oh. (513) 879-9798

I found a company in California that has Flyback Transformers for Commodore monitors.  They have a toll free number; 800-325-2264.  There are two possible choices:                                                                                    Manf# AT2079/30101  their order # is 63-0292                                   Manf# AT2079/30102  their order # is 63-0293                                                                                                     Both run $30.50 each.  No personal chec


k
s.  Credit Cards are ok.  Twenty dollars is the minimum order.  Their address is Dalbani Corp; 2733 Carrier Ave, Commerce;  Los Angeles, Ca 90040.  I haven't ordered from them but they look worth a try.  I hope this is of some help.  Later Mark.

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From: Metin_Savignano@turttwo.tynet.sub.org (Metin Savignano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Which Monitor?
Date: 23 Jul 92 23:27:47 GMT
Organization: TurtleSystems II, Stuttgart FRG

In a message dated Wed 22 Jul 92  7:00, 89u7491@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
wrote:

 > I need some advice choosing a monitor. I'd like to buy a multisync
 > capable
 > of displaying the A2024 mode as well as the lower resolutions as well.
 > Any suggestions?

Hit me, if me I'm wrong, but as far as I know, only a A2024 is capable of
displaying the A2024 mode, because it needs to hold more than one pic in
its mem.

For all other modes, I'd say a real Multisync is best like NEC Multisync 3D
(I think you'll only be able to get used ones). Unfortunately, you didn't
say if you have a flicker fixer or not?

Hope I'm right and it helps!



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From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A2630 and '86 A2000
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:09:49 GMT
Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Jul22.195630.759@mits.mdata.fi> jyrkis@mits.mdata.fi (Jyrki Saarinen) writes:

>Does the A2630 work with _A_2000 rev. 4 or 4.3? There is '86 sign on
>the motherboard, so my Amiga is quite old. Golem's 68030-cards don't
>work, GVP Combos don't, but does A2630?

The A26x0 work in the "A" 2000 boards (4-layer design done in Germany) as long
as you set the appropriate jumpers on the board and remove your 68000.  The
A2620 requires three jumpers to be reset, the A2630 does it with one.

>Why doesn't those cards work with A2000? There some signal missing from
>A2000's 86-pin slot, but what's the meaning of 'the missing pin'?

There are several signals missing from the original slot that most cards count 
on.  The 7MHz clock is missing, so a card that supports both types of 2000s 
must know how to synthesize its own (the obvious way to do this doesn't work
right on all B2000s, due to some timing slop in the non-ECS Fat Agnus's clock
generation).  More critically, there's no coprocessor interface on the "A"
machine's "CPU" slot.  This is the mechanism by which the processor takes 
primary control of the system from the 68000.  Because this isn't present, the
68000 must be removed, and the card must be able to compensate for the 68000
not being there.  The A26x0 card did this -- they pretty much had to, after
all, the original A2000 was a C= product, and we wanted to support it as well
as possible.  I guess other vendors didn't consider the number of these
systems (somewhere around 30,000 as I recall) significant enough to both with
a little extra circuitry.
-- 
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   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh      BIX: hazy
	"Work like a horse, drink like a fish"	- Psychefunkapus
 
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From: wirth@garfield.igd.fhg.de (Hanno Wirth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.tech,bit.listserv.i-amiga
Subject: TECH: CHIP_MEM in A2000 too slow for A2630?
Keywords: A2000, chip mem, A2630, accelerator
Date: 28 Jul 92 07:49:53 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Organization: Zentrum fuer Graphische Datenverarbeitung, 6100 Darmstadt, Germany

Hi there,

I have a problem with my A2000 which is quite extraordinary - at least to me.
But first the relevant setup:

	A2000 rev. 4.1 with ECS-Agnus and 32 * 41256 (150 ns) RAM chips,
	A2630 (4 MB RAM) with V. 6 ROMS (standard 25 MHz, no tricks).

The problem is: when I switch on the A2000, everything is okay. After a while,
when the machine gets warm, a strange thing happens. When I press Ctrl-A-A to
boot the machine and hold down the two mouse buttons to get into the bootup screen
of the A2630, there are blue stripes all over the boot screen. When I boot the
machine, everything seems to be okay, but, using the "WritePixel" test of
AIBB 4.5, I get black dots all over the screen. If I disable FAST_MEM, programs
I run in CHIP_MEM crash, too. All of this doesn't happen if I boot in 68000 mode.

	The question is now, if all this comes from the (very slow) CHIP_MEM chips
in my A2000?! The symptom described above is not correlated with any other card
in my A2000 (tested that :-). I have applied Dave Haynies DMA fix (soldered a
1 kOhm resistor between pins 11 and 20 of U 605). My last idea is that either
the 150 ns chips in CHIP_MEM are just a little too slow or that one of the logic
chips (LS...) is near the edge. 

Is this possible, or am I at fault? Do you have any other ideas? I'd be grateful
for any comment as I have no other clue to solve this one. Please do respond by
email, I'll post a summary if there is anything of interest.

Thank you for your help.

	Hanno

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: bscott@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ben Scott)
Subject: Re: GVP multi-port card
Summary: Why no cheap I/O 
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 21:21:23 GMT

In article <1992Jul19.072155.6069@afterlife.ncsc.mil> bkwilli@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Bryan Williams) writes:
>Since you brought up the subject of GVP's new card, I'd like to GRIPE.
> 
>The MSRP of the board is $299!!!!!!!! 
> 
>WHY in the HELL do these things cost so much? Please, no bullshit answers. I've
>been looking into producing a serial board myself, and I KNOW how much 

Well, it's GVP.  Personally, I decided on the route you're talking about - I
bought a Goldengate card and put in an IBM serial board.  For under $100 I
have two serial ports in addition to the internal on my 3000.  (GG card was
$90 assembled, the serial card was free but normally costs around $8)  Some
other I/O cards for the IBM also have an output-only parallel port suitable
for printers, and joystick ports and etc.  The GG card can let almost any
I/O device from the IBM world work on the Amiga, though you might have to
write your own driver (it comes with serial and parallel devices).

Actually, I'm having a few problems with garbage but it does work sorta and
the serial card I'm using is old and was being given away so I'm inclined
tto blame it.

.                            <<<<Infinite K>>>>

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: foy@aero.org (Richard Foy)
Subject: Re: POWERGLOVE
Keywords: AmigaHires
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:50:09 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.143416.26247@dialogic.com> kamran@pizzabox.dialogic.com (Kamran Vaziri) writes:
#In article <1992Jul22.153628.1233@ccad.uiowa.edu# rromano@ccad.uiowa.edu (Richard A Romano) writes:
##In article <rda732m.711786178@nella5.cc.monash.edu.au# rda732m@nella5.cc.monash.edu.au (J.P. Baker) writes:
###I have just connected a Mattel Powerglove to my A500, and tried the
###amigahires.lzh programs for those that know what I am on about.
###
###However, No values feed back to the glove, has anyone out there
###+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
##
##What are the best present sources for the Mattel Powerglove.  I heard
##you can get one for about $30- from surplus stores.
##
##Can anyone give me a name and/or number.
#
#I got mine at Toys R Us.  Both the Toys R Us stores I went to had tons of them
#in large size for $29.95 (or was it 25.95?).  Anyway, it was pretty cheap.
#Check your local Toys R Us.
#


What does one have to do to connect the power glove to an Amiga 2000?

Richard Foy






Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt)
Subject: Re: A600 HD SCSI or NOT The man speaks : -)?
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:46:36 GMT

But why the mistake on the size?

30 megs is a lot more useful than 20 megs...

Thom

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt)
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 05:54:44 GMT

It seems to me that the Falcon is a mid-range machine... hitting the
Amiga line where it is weakest, and the Mac line where they are weakest,
and contributing features which cost far more in IBMs, when assembled 
together in the aftermarket.

It needs applications written to take advantage of it's unique capabilities.

Thom
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: 386BB and 2630
From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Date: 31 Jul 92 11:04:34 PST
Organization: TAP, NZAmigaUG

Quoted from <2431@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> by aegnor@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (David C. Powell):
> In article <63021@cup.portal.com> DennyA@cup.portal.com (Denny Lee Atkin) writes:

> >Unfortunately, the 4MB on the 2630 is configured in your 8MB of RAM
> >expansion room. With a 4MB 2630 and the Bridgeboard, you'll only be
> >able to add 2MB of 16-bit RAM.

> Say WHAT???  I thought the whole 'beauty' of the 2620/2630 accelerator boards
> was the fact that their *32bit* ram was 'outside' of the standard Amiga
> autoconfig ram space, and thus with a BB, you could have 6Meg of 16Bit

    I thought so too, and didn't find out this wasn't the case until
    sometime after buying an A2630... :)

    Note that the _DKB_ memory will go outside the 9MB space, so the
    solution to 32-bit RAM expansion for A2630 users who have the 9MB
    full already is to use the DKB product.

    It's still worth replacing 16-bit RAM with 32-bit RAM (if you have
    it lying around - I also bought another 2MB of 32-bit RAM for the
    A2630, in the expectation that I would be able to add it whenever
    I wanted, plus an A2058 board, for 9MB 16-bit and 4MB 32-bit :(.
    Instead, I've got 7MB 16-bit, 2MB 32-bit, 4MB disabled on the
    A2058, and 2MB of 32-bit RAM in a drawer... :)). Programs running
    in 16-bit RAM are something like 25% of the speed of programs in
    32-bit RAM (so 32-bit RAM is 4 times better).

> -dcp / a very confused SOON to be owner of a 2000 + BB that was hoping to have
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: robbins@iastate.edu (James D. Robbins)
Subject: 32-bit fast ram for VXL-30 is Available NOW!
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 03:37:13 GMT

Hi all,
	Just thought I'd tell you that the ram for VXL-30 is now available.
I got mine yesterday and the speed increase is excellent.  Now my A-500 is
as fast as my frined's A-3000.  Later.


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From: elliott@majestix.cs.uoregon.edu (Elliott E. Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: adaptec and dataflyer
Date: 28 Jul 92 07:30:07 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.

Can I use my adaptec ACB4000 with my dataflyer?  I'm not sure what the problem
is, but I think it has something to do with setting the device number -- 0 to
6.  Can I do this with the adaptec?  When I run the prep program, no drives
are listed.  I'm pretty sure I set everything up correctly.  I heard that
some controllers are not compatible with the adaptec.  Is this true?

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: ry41@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Bernhard Moellemann)
Subject: Re: A1000 ECS ?
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:20:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.181107.28894@ninja.zso.dec.com>, Hans Ridder <ridder@zso.dec.com> writes:
>Yes, you need an ECS Agnus too, which won't work in the A1000.  I don't
>know for sure, but a Rejuvinator would probably allow both the ECS Agnus
>and Paula.  Time to upgrade.
     ^^^^^ There is _no_ ECS Paula!
                                     Bernhard
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From: granum@cs.hw.ac.uk (Geir Granum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: 1 M agnes upgrade
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:36:49 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

I have (finally) decided to replace the agnes chip in mt A500 and upgrade to
1M of chip ram, before I go ahead there are a couple of questions that I
would like to ask:

1: My 1/2 M ram upgrade is the a501 from Commodore (bought 1989). I have heard 
   that some of the eralier A501's are too slow to be used as chip ram. Do
   anyone know when Commodore started to produce 'full speed' a501's??

2: Are there any known (fatal) consequenses of using the slower version
   (in case I decide to try anyway)


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From: barre@cenaath.cena.dgac.fr (Roland BARRE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: A590 upgrade ?
Date: 31 Jul 92 07:59:49 GMT
Organization: C.E.N.A. (Centre d'Etudes de la Navigation Aerienne)


Does anyone know how to upgrade with a PC hard drive a 20 mega A590 hd ?


thanks
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: mjp3783@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: '040 and SCSI
Reply-To: mjp3783@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:24:09 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.015517.26439@sarah.albany.edu>, tw5232@albnyvms.bitnet (Teddy Wang) writes:

>Now this is a silly post!  First off, you can get a used 2000 for around $500. 
>At least a month ago you could get the RCS Fusion Forty for $995.  That's $1500
>for an '040 machine!  Add some 32bit ram and you'll be going 4 times faster
>than a standard 3000.  We're talking $2000 for a fully configured 17 MIPS
>computer!  Well lets, see I've seen standard A3000/16 for around $2000 (used of
>course)!!!  About bus speeds, unless the amiga gets someone serious to enter
>the hardware seen (say someone comes out with a Zorro III SCSI-2 controller or
>something like that,) you're not going to need the bandwidth.  A good SCSI
>controller will operate at about 1 to 2 megs per second, which is about the
>maximum throughput of a fast SCSI drive (easily attainable with Zorro II and a
>'040.)  Yes if Zorro III had some good expansion development (like EISA is
>now,)it would be worth the money to buy a 3000, but I don't know how you could
>justify spending that kind of money on the 3000 - '040 but as it stands, Amiga
>just doesn't have those devices...
> 

Bull. My 2000 GVP 030/25 is nowhere near as fast as a 3000. Maybe because
any graphics or sound or disk drive access or .... has to go through 16 bit
ram. As for a Zorro III hd controller, why? The only advantage it would have
would be major speed. The 3000 comes with a hard drive controller built in. How
many people do you know that would be willing to buy a card that would give
them ONLY faster hard drive access. People for whom 1 meg/sec isn't enough?
Most low end hard drives don't even do speeds> that of the 3000's scsi
sontroller. The 3000 also comes with a 2 meg agnus, a hard drive, a filcker
fixer, and so on. It seems to me that the cost of adding up all of those litle
goodies would more than make up for the price of the 3000 (which is why it
sells).

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