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From: tremblay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Marc Tremblay)
Subject: Re: What everyone who missed the ND-Stanford game wants to know
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 06:29:08 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.194411.18297@u.washington.edu> tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:
>
>Was Rick Mirer really crying on the sidelines during the 4th quarter?
>

Yup, the cameras caught it and the announcers mentioned it... I wonder
if he was crying because of the loss, or because he wished he had
jumped to the NFL last year before anyone realized how overrated he
was... ;-)


=========================================================
| Marc Tremblay                  |  Stanford Cardinal   |
| tremblay@sunrise.stanford.edu  |  1993 Rose Bowl      |
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: alvstad@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Joel D Alvstad)
Subject: Re: Sorry, Gophers!
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:50:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.145316.5977@den.mmc.com> weiser@pogo.den.mmc.com (Matt Weiser) writes:
>I'm really sorry for all of those mighty Gopher fans who e-mailed me
>hoping the CU Buffs would get crushed by Iowa last Saturday.  I guess
>that the Buffs are not quite as pathetic as you gophers might think.
>I'm not too sure how you could have been so wrong, since you do have
>some experience with pathetic football teams! :->
>
>Matt Weiser
>weiser@pogo.den.mmc.com
>Go Buffs!

I'm not too worried about the Gophers.  BTW you must have a pretty short memory,
because wasn't it a recent as 5-6 years ago that the Buffs went 0-whatever for
a couple seasons in a row??  Jeez, if the wouldn't have gotten Eric Bienemy,
your Buffs would be no-name losers today just like they were during most of the
80's.

Also, the difference between a top ten team and a winless team in the case of
the Gophers is not a whole lot.  If you remember, CU generated 4 INT's at 
crutial points of the game, which I give them credit for, but they also gave
up 450 yards to a Gopher team, which the mighty Buffs defense should not have
done against the Gophers if CU's JV team was in the game.  Also, the Gophers
3 losses have come by a grand total of 14 points.  The only game they deserved
to lose was against Pitt last Saturday.  I can't wait to see a team like Kansas
State pummel CU, then maybe loudmouth woofers like you would shut the hell up
and leave us humble football fans in peace.  Hey, look what the Miami/Arizona
game last week did the the rowdy Miami woof throng.

Joel Alvstad
GOPHERS--Pride

Hey, CU fans--see you in the Toilet Bowl!!


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen)
Subject: UW - OSU
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 19:45:14 GMT

WOW!!!

I haven't seen the game but I just heard the score so I changed stations.

UW  20
OSU 16   4:30 left

OSU just accepted a roughing the kicker call after MAKING the extra point
They then missed the 2 point conversion.
Oops!!!
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:21:25 EDT
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Poll Injustice (was: WEEKLY TOP 25)
 <1992Oct5.064326.21944@leland.Stanford.EDU>
 <168777F48.CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu>

The reason for the big drop in the polls for FSU is because neither team
played very well.  I watched the game.  If it was a well-played game and came
down to the wire, then FSU would have stayed No. 3.  If it was well-played,
Miami would've probably moved back up to No. 1.  But most experts kept their
votes for Washington, only a few switched.  If Miami plays the way they played
against FSU this week against Penn State, then Penn State will have a field
day...another crushing score at home.  Which I'm hoping for!  Keep rolling
over and playing dead, Miami.  Don't wake them up.  I want to see the 'Canes
leaving the Happy Valley embarrassed!!!!!!!!!!!   -Rob
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: Cal Bears
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 11:29:19 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.070025.25380@u.washington.edu> baze@carson.u.washington.edu (Behzad Khamneian) writes:

>Hi to all Cal faithful,

>  I would like to know about the strenghts and weeknesses of the Cal Bears!!

That's easy:  the strengths are Russell White, Sean Dawkins and Mack Travis.
The biggest weakness is that they're playing the Huskies.

OK:

The Bears are a very good but not great team.  There's loads of talent
at RB and WR, and the OL is solid, but QB is untested.  Defensively the
team is quite talented and very quick, but not big enough up front to
hang with the toughest running games (witness last year's Big Game).
Overall, the team is nothing to squack about, especially for long-
suffering Old Blues like me who've seen more victories this season
already than we used to get in an entire year, but there's no reason
to expect them to give UW a real game this week.  The Huskies are too 
good, especially at home, and particularly after a rather off performance
against $C last week.

The Golden Bears can probably hang with anyone but UW in the conference.
This doesn't mean that I'm predicting victory against all other opponents;
merely that victory isn't unreasonable.  It would be easier to sound
definite if it weren't for the totally wacky season it's already been
in the Pac 10.  The Bears will be tested against UCLA (a quality team
that isn't accustomed to losing streaks against Cal), U$C (who is
looking better all the time and is going to be waiting big-time for
the Bears after last year's embarrassment), Arizona (whose defense
will keep them in any game if the past two weeks are any indication)
and of course, the Junior University, who will probably find a way
to ruin yet another Saturday before Thanksgiving for me...
-- 
Michael Zimmers                                    |  Home:  408 996 1984
SoftHelp                                           |  Work:  408 996 1965
Software Solutions for Open Systems                |  Data:  408 996 1974
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:47:16 EDT
From: Spiro the Spiny Goldfish <MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: FSU-Miami-ND
Distribution: usa
 <1992Oct2.213432.22519@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
 <1992Oct2.222111.14432@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov>
 <1992Oct3.012543.19217@news.nd.edu>

In article <1992Oct3.012543.19217@news.nd.edu>, rszczerb@tolkien.helios.nd.edu
(Robert Szczerba) says:
>
>Well ... the AP polls treated the ND-Mich game as a tie for
>Michigan and a loss for the Irish ... I don't think that's too
>fair.  But, judging from the recent net posts, there seems to
>be a lot of anit-ND sentiment out there.

As they should have. Michigan, after all, didn't play for the tie.
----
Mike Dahmus       MXD118@PSUVM  or  dahmus@cs.psu.edu
TEAM OS/2
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: Ohio State fans have a lot of excuses
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:55:09 CDT

In article <1992Oct6.190145.8424@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> ktreole@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kathleen Treole) writes:
>
>Might we be just a little big prejudice since you are from Wisconsin?
>I think it's only natural to analzye your team and find specific
>weaknesses rather that just say "they sucked"...because they do not suck..if 
>they did suck, they wouldn't have won any games at all this season.  The 
>Syracuse game was evidence that Ohio State does not suck...just at some times, 
>as all teams can, will  get 'under the weather' so to speak.

I said "Ohio State sucked last week", not that they sucked in general.  How
specific do I have to get?

No prejudice here.  I'm a Purdue alum, and that is who I usually cheer for.
I'm warming up to Bucky, but they are not my #1 team.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: ellis@pike.cis.ohio-state.edu (steven lawrence ellis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Rose Bowl (was Re: Wash vs. Neb afterthought)
Keywords: Huskies Huskers MNC
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:51:08 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science

In article <3100@voodoo.UUCP> stu@voodoo.boeing.com writes:
>
>Well, one possibility I see is that both UW & UCLA go undefeated and UCLA goes
>to the Rose Bowl because the UW went last time.  So, the Huskies go to some 
>other bowl to play Miami, FSU, or (insert some other MNC contender here).
>Now, consider UCLA playing against an unbeaten Michigan (but they do have that
>tie game with ND).  The Huskies would get a shot at playing against an unbeaten
>team like (possibly) Miami (well, they've got a tough schedule, they could end
>the season with at least one loss) -OR- FSU....Well, you get the picture.
>The Huskies can definitely come out with a NC title all to themselves and not
>have to share it like they did last year.  The only problem with this scenario
>is that UCLA might get to play in the Rose Bowl and keep the Huskies from the
>possibility of the only ROSE BOWL THREE-PEAT IN HISTORY!!!  Bummer, dudes!
>-- 
>________________________________________ "In most states you can get a driver's
>Stuart Liddle      (206) 865-6559 (wk)  \ license when you're 16, which made a
>BoGART Project     stu@voodoo.boeing.com \ lot of sense to me when I was 16
>Boeing Comp. Svcs..uunet!bcstec!voodoo!stu\ but now seems insane." - Dave Barry

Doesn't UCLA play UW this year?  Also, Michigan may not be in the Rose Bowl since
They have to play Ohio State in Columbus.  That is always a close game, even when
Ohio State has an average year.

S. Ellis
From: salas@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Miguel Salas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: A Bowl ?
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:42:39 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC


 Lets say Washington U are #2 in the country at the end of the
season, can they play Miami for instance for the National 
Championship? Or are they still obligated to the Rose Bowl?
From: noonan@icd3 (Michael Noonan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: APtop10 teams with ranked opponents (was Re: FSU-Miami)
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:51:49 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.173555.24906@meaddata.com>,
bobj@meaddata.com (Robert Jones) writes:

>Does Florida State play anyone tough this year besides Miami? (Not a
>flame, I just want to know.)

I thought this was interesting.

Here are all of the AP Top 10, ranked in order of schedule strength
based on the number of ranked opponents.  Where there are ties, *I*
was the tie-breaker.  You can flame me at will on that, but I'm *not*
trying to start a flame war on the best ways to rank schedules, this
is one way of many.


The Associated Press Top Ten Teams and their Ranked Opponents
=================================================================

# APRank School         Rnk Opponents    Outcome
-----------------------------------------------------------------
6    3   Florida State    2 Miami           
                         13 Florida         
                         14 Virginia        
                         21 N.C. State      W
                         23 Ga Tech         
                         25 Clemson         W
-----------------------------------------------------
5    6   Notre Dame       4 Michigan        T
                          8 Penn State      
                         18 Stanford        
                         20 Southern Cal    
                         22 Boston College  
-----------------------------------------------------
3    8   Penn State       2 Miami           
                          6 Notre Dame      
                         22 Boston college  

     2   Miami, Florida   3 Florida State   
                          8 Penn State      
                         17 Syracuse        

     7   Tennessee        9 Alabama
                         13 Florida         W
                         16 Georgia         W

     1   Washington      15 Nebraska        W
                         18 Stanford        
                         20 Southern Cal    
-----------------------------------------------------
2    4   Michigan         6 Notre Dame      T
                         12 Ohio State      

     9   Alabama          7 Tennessee       
                         24 Mississippi St. 

    10   Colorado        15 Nebraska        
                         19 Oklahoma        
-----------------------------------------------------
1    5   Texas A&M       18 Stanford        W

(Ranks are taken from the 28 Sep 92 AP Poll.)

Well, what do ya think?

-Mike Noonan
From: lein@bae.bae.bellcore.com (John Leinaweaver)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Bowl alliance a crock!
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:55:14 GMT
Reply-To: lein@bae.bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communications Research

In article <1992Oct1.212150.6923@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming) writes:
> Spiro the Spiny Goldfish scribes:
> 
> >You are incorrect. There is no place for Penn State in the alliance.
> >There is only one spot for an "independent" team, and it is reserved
> >for Notre Dame. Penn State is playing the season as an independent, and
> >is thus locked out of any alliance bowl.
> 
> No I am not incorrect!  The bowl alliance (as originally agreed to) excluded 
> only five teams out of 107.  Those five teams were the one commited to
> non-alliance bowls due to conference ties - the Big Ten champ, the Pac-10
> champ, the WAC champ, the MAC champ and the Big West champ.  Everyone else was 
>eligible.  Everyone.  Then the Big Ten got upset and signed contracts for their
> second and third place teams and at the same time farbade their members from 
> playing in the consortium bowls.  Whether or not Penn state fell under this 
> rule or not may be debatable, but my understanding was that the Lions were 
>excluded from consideration by virtue of being a Big Ten member (remember that 
>PSU plays a full Big Ten slate in every sport except football this year.)  But 
> it is irrelavant.  Penn State removed themselves from consideration for a 
> Tier I consortium bowl by singing the Blockbuster deal.  They have no one to 
> blame but themselves.  Either they must "pay their dues" to the Big Ten by 

Whoaaa Nellie, (or Pat) PSU made their deal with the Blockbuster AFTER they
were refused consideration by the bowl cartel.  


> abiding its rules, or they were just plain stupid to commit to a bowl before
> any games were played.
> 
>      - Pat

Unlike a certain school in the midwest last year, Penn State's deal was
within the NCAA procedures (the NCAA lifted the no bowl bids before a certain
date restriction).  

If Penn State goes 11-0 (I know it's a big if).  Watch the Blockbuster bowl
throw out big $$$$$$$$ to lure someone away from the cartel.

> .
> -- 
> - Patrick E. Fleming ---------------------------------------------------------
> - Department of Chemistry ------------ Some things are still a mystery to me -
> - Ohio Wesleyan University ----------- While others are much too clear! ------
> - pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu -----------------------------------------


John L
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn)
Subject: Some IAA stuff
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 00:01:10 GMT

Some scant info....

Marshall, the #1 team in I-AA lost to Missouri, 44-21.

N. Iowa, #2, beat Illinois St., 41-14.

The Citadel beat Appalachian St., 25-0.

Eastern Kentucky, Delaware, Villanova, SW Texas, NC A&T, Richmond, Youngstown
St., Eastern Washington (all ranked teams) won.

When the polls come out, look for UNI to be #1.

PDunn
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Roger's Top 25--5 Oct 92
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:05:43 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY) wrote:
}
}Rumor is the SEC is courting SW Louisiana and Arkansas St, in an effort to 
}ease the rigors of playing in the conference ...

No, no, no, SW Louisiana and Arkansas State are joining the Big West 
next season!  Honest!

Gawd, why would the SEC want to invite them in?  Right now they get to play
them whenever they want, always at home, and pay peanuts to do it.  Invite
them into the league and you have to give them big money *and* play on their
turf.  No way will the SEC do that.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
       "Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing 
         swords is no basis for a system of government!"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell)
Subject: ACC Scores
Originator: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:08:25 GMT


Standings
---------
					ACC	Overall 	
Florida State      			4-0-0	4-0-0	
Virginia                                3-0-0   4-0-0		
North Carolina State                    2-1-0   4-1-0
North Carolina                          1-1-0   3-1-0
Georgia Tech                            1-1-0   2-1-0	
Clemson                                 0-2-0   1-2-0
Wake Forest                             0-2-0   1-2-0		
Duke         				0-2-0	1-3-0		
Maryland         			0-2-0	0-4-0		

9/26/92 Results
---------------

GEORGIA TECH 20 CLEMSON 16  (Predicted: Clemson 31, Ga. Tech 17)
This was the first big upset of the season in the ACC. Clemson was
unable to generate any offense in the first half and the Jackets
led 13-3. Georgia Tech looked much better on defense than they did
against Virginia. The Tigers are now clearly out of the ACC Title
race at 0-2.          

VIRGINIA 55 DUKE 28 (Predicted: UVa 49 Duke 17)
As expected, Virginia beat up on Duke for the fourth straight year. The
score was 55-14 in the Fourth Quarter when Duke scored twice to make
the score at least a little more respectable. Virginia is now averaging
almost 48 points per game and Bobby Goodman is the nation's leading
Quarterback in passing efficiency.

FLORIDA STATE 35 WAKE FOREST 7 (Predicted: FSU 51 Wake 3)
The Seminoles didn't score as many points as I expected, but still
breezed passed the hapless Demon Deacons. Now FSU can start thinking
about Miami.

NORTH CAROLINA STATE 27 NORTH CAROLINA 20 (Predicted: NCSU 27 UNC 17)
I almost hit this one right on the head. State scored on a 2 yard
TD run with 1:01 left to seal the win. They have now won 6 in a row
in this series. North Carolina suffers their first loss of the year.

PENN STATE 49 MARYLAND 13 (Predicted: PSU 45 UMD 20)
As expected, Penn State is just too much for the Terrapins to handle.
Maryland hasn't won a game in this series since 1961. 

For the record, I'm 19-2 in my picks.



-- 
Charlie Cockrell                          VV     VV 1991 Men's Soccer Champs.
NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Va. VV   VV  1992 Men's NIT Champions  
U.Va. School of Engineering, Class of 1990  VV VV   1992 Women's ACC BB Champs.
(These are my opinions only)                 VVV     NCAA East Regional Champs.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: Re: Bowl alliance a crock!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:21:50 GMT

Spiro the Spiny Goldfish scribes:

>You are incorrect. There is no place for Penn State in the alliance.
>There is only one spot for an "independent" team, and it is reserved
>for Notre Dame. Penn State is playing the season as an independent, and
>is thus locked out of any alliance bowl.

No I am not incorrect!  The bowl alliance (as originally agreed to) excluded 
only five teams out of 107.  Those five teams were the one commited to
non-alliance bowls due to conference ties - the Big Ten champ, the Pac-10
champ, the WAC champ, the MAC champ and the Big West champ.  Everyone else was 
eligible.  Everyone.  Then the Big Ten got upset and signed contracts for their
second and third place teams and at the same time farbade their members from 
playing in the consortium bowls.  Whether or not Penn state fell under this 
rule or not may be debatable, but my understanding was that the Lions were 
excluded from consideration by virtue of being a Big Ten member (remember that 
PSU plays a full Big Ten slate in every sport except football this year.)  But 
it is irrelavant.  Penn State removed themselves from consideration for a 
Tier I consortium bowl by singing the Blockbuster deal.  They have no one to 
blame but themselves.  Either they must "pay their dues" to the Big Ten by 
abiding its rules, or they were just plain stupid to commit to a bowl before
any games were played.

     - Pat
.
-- 
- Patrick E. Fleming ---------------------------------------------------------
- Department of Chemistry ------------ Some things are still a mystery to me -
- Ohio Wesleyan University ----------- While others are much too clear! ------
- pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu -----------------------------------------
From: lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Patrick W Lauson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Michigan 223 -- Cougar High 0
Date: 2 Oct 92 00:03:27 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

>
>	Academy of Applied              Cumberland
>		Omniscience	248	University	0

Just out of curiosity:  Regarding the Tech-Cumberland game, is Cumberland
University, the same college that is in Williamsburg, Ky called Cumberland
COLLEGE?  Just curious, as my bro. went there.  
-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------
| Pat Lawson                     :  Go Buckeyes!!!!!!            |
| lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu       :    Scarlet and Gray Rules!!!! |
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From: garbe@jasper.phys.ucalgary.ca (Greg Garbe)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Huskies and parties
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:47:03 GMT
Reply-To: garbe@jasper.phys.ucalgary.ca (Greg Garbe)
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta, Canada

In article <1aai76INNd5i@aludra.usc.edu>, bkowal@aludra.usc.edu (Brian A. Kowal) writes:
||> 
|> BTW Someone posted that UW, by going to the Rose Bowl three times in a
|> row would break know records needs to go over thier facts again, USC
|> has done it a couple times.
|> 
  You are right, going to the Rose Bowl three times in a row is not a record,
Ohio State has accomplished it also, however no one has ever won the Rose
Bowl three years in a row.   Not even U$C.

|> I'm looking forward to the USC/UW game.
|> 

 So am I.

|> Fight On!
|> 
|> Brian A. Kowal
|> 

Greg Garbe
garbe@phys.ucalgary.ca
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