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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
Subject: Re: Giggles' News
Reply-To: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 06:06:33 GMT


In a previous article, dorisann@TENET.EDU (Doris Smith) says:

>> I don't think Giggles was in Cancun at all.  My spies didn't see him
>> there...
>I agree. I think his wife made him clean up all of the mess he made making
>Neiman-Marcus cookies.
probably ate them all before they made it to the oven.!

-- 
It's Ruth the NetHead, back from the [virtual] dead
	- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
fighting for truth, justice and static-free lines
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1992 17:46:58 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: What do you call...
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> What do you call yourself *between* semesters? If one was a
> sophomore last spring semester, and will be a junior next semester,
> whe people ask you during the summer what you are, what is the
> correct answer? :)

Doesn't it depend on the number of hours you've completed?  If you've
completed the number of hours required to be classified as a junior,
you're a junior.

Here's a similar question with a less clear answer.  What do you call
yourself when you're between ranks?  Our contracts run from the middle
of August until the middle of May.  My contract that ended last May was
for one rank, and my contract that starts this year on August 16 (which
strikes me as a peculiar date since it's a Sunday) is for a different
rank.  What am I right now?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:09:34 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Wait up!
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> I would definitely say "wait up."  Don't know why, but that's just
> the way to express the concept.  Of course the partner of "wait up" is
> "slow down."  Must be another Yankee thang, as is putting butter on
> meat sandwiches (yuk).

"Slow down" is used in the South also.  I think it's used all over the
country.

   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
     who is accomplishing all kinds of important things like figuring
     out how Bernard can send a console broadcast from my office to the
     TAs working in our lab right now...
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 11:16:49 MED
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
Subject:      Re: Pronunciation Lesson 1
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Probably from the Spanish colonies in the Netherlands, like
Fernando Poo.  'oo' pronounced as 'oh!' is a Dutch grapheme.

G
From: AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU (Entropy Warrior)
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>Down boy --I saw it & it wann't sooo bad...
>
>Agnes

Which is to say it wann't so good either.   Which isn't true.

-Mka
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:38:54 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      RE: the state of slowness
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              18 Aug 1992 23:34:09 EDT from <GUBERT@UKCC.UKY.EDU>

will GUBERT properly learn how to reply to messages without quoting the
whole damn thing?    hmmmmmmm

several of us could give him lessons.....especially if he is on RiceMail,
which it appears he is.....hmmmmmm

dan
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:21:18 EDT
Reply-To:     Graham Toal <gtoal@ed.ac.uk>
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Not an Apology
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On Wed, 12 Aug 1992 03:31:48 GMT, "Jim Thomas" <jthomas@WELL.SF.CA.US> wrote:
> The first post seems to be based on the assumption that reasonable,
> courteous, and civilized people prefer not to needlessly offend. It
> assumes, explicitly and unequivocally, that it's not unreasonable to
> change objectionable behaviors. We can debate what constitutes

Actually, the subtext of the current discussion isn't really about
saying anything that offends people, or causing offense.  I think most
people who commented really wanted to point out to Dan that if he
kept mentioning <that subject>, people might get the wrong impression
about him.  I think folks said 'Dan, that's a tactless way to talk and
you might cause offense' because it was less hurtful than saying to
him 'Dan, if you don't stop going on about this all the time people
are going to think you've got some sort of obsession'.  I think it
was Dan's realisation that the latter was in fact what was meant
that prompted him to unsub in pique.  But the fact is, after the third
or fourth time he had mentioned it over the last year, people _were_
beginning to say these things in private mail, so it was probably for
the best that it came up in public.

G
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:22:22 -0400
From:         Agnes Kruchio <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Re: List Wars II
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              Aug 20, 92 8:14 pm

>
> Not to fan the flames, but these guys just keep at it:
>
> the First and Only Nude Vaxer <FSCLL@ALASKA.BITNET> says on
> LITERARY (Thu, 20 Aug 92 20:04:06 EST):
>
> >I'd rather have dead periods than teh amazing amount of rubbish on other
> >groups/lists...
> >
> >chris
>
> Get on it, abh.
>
> -Mka
>

Nahh. it wasn't about THIS list - if the shoe doesn't fit, why insist
on wearing it?

Cheers -
Agnes
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From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      WHTMIQR9
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What H....9
-----------------
36)  So, upstairs in C/C, we are seated by the open air window,
can see the sailboats on the lagoon and smell the sea, and the
patrons are yelling and screaming and singing and the sound is
deafening, and we realize that we were not meant to be here
because these are all American Yuppies and the waiter knew
we would not fit in.  The menu is too cutesy for words, with
things like FISH:  FLIP   SPLASH  ROAST  BURN   a price by
each, but the waiter has to explain what each means, and -ggs
is getting *very* irritated by all this and starts looking
around for the woman who kissed him, but they got sent somewhere
else, where it was *quiet*.....  Waiter is going from table to
table trying to get each table to out-scream the others as they
raise their margarita glasses above their heads and then order
another....  Then everyone is ordered to stamp their feet
together to make more noise than the people on the lower level
whose waiter is in a yelling contest with ours.  (I repeat, I
am *not* making this up).....  The fish comes and is very very
good, but the noise never ends.  We leave promptly after paying
a fairly reasonable check ($30 for two with tip)....  and
flee into the peaceful, serene, 98 degree heat of the Cancun
evening....  tc is very <put out> because -ggs keeps joking in
front of other tourists throughout the trip that this heat is
the reason that only the poor come to Cancun in August.  She
thinks -ggs is being very offensive, but he does not agree and
makes some disparaging remark about her <sentido de humor> and
she says speak English you bastard speak English.... -ggs
answers, simply, <No comprendo, nina, no comprendo...>  -ggs
and tc realize that their love is eternal and will survive all
this surfeit of paradise and joy.....
37)  -ggs and tc, throughout all this trial and tribulation, are
frequently <worshiping the dioses mayas> with some hanky panky
in the nicest way possible and that helps to take the edge off
things....  after ten weeks of abstinence, as far as anyone knows.
--------------------
--ggs (the system is eternal... the gods are at work again....)
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:35:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Something interesting
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> > --ggs (back, with teeth flossed, ready to talk...)
>
>   Hi.
> Doris

Hi yourself.  Sis.
--ggs (leaving now but be back tomorrow with some news... uh oh!)
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1992 13:30:07 MED
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
Subject: RE: Gender
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	Thanks btw for the cite for instruction on better strategies to

Who was it that was objecting to redundant back-formations?  Susan?
What's wrong with 'citation' here?  Cite has always been a verb to me.
However, it's "an invite" for "an invitation" that *really* gets my goat -
*everyone* over here uses it nowadays except me :-(


G
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From:         Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS%CWU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Why I Couldn't Find the RAM!

>PS.  Denver is beautiful, Anne.  Gerry must be something and a half for
>you to leave there to come to Boston.

Yeah, but what you don't know is she sang him chorus after chorus of "Hey
Ramblin' Boy".

Just my stream of conscious this morning.

Chris
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From: bayla@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bayla Singer)
Subject: Re: On
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 09:50:46 GMT

Shag wonders:

>  Maybe the New Yorkers are saying 'on line'
>because they spend so much time 'on hold' it seems like proper usage?

--this new yawka was getting in /on line and standing in/on line 'way before
there was such a thing as "on hold."  Getting in line was something one did
for example at the end of recess (playtime at school), forming the line
where there had been a mob before.  Getting on line was adding one's body
to an existing (or just forming) line.  "Get in line" as a command could be
construed as "don't set yourself apart from the group: participate in the
group formation," and so could seem in one usage at least to be synonymous
with "get on line."  When standing in/on one -- 'in' described the
formation, 'on' meant you were waiting for something ... but of course,
being new yawkas, we never went in much for rigidly precise distinctions of
usage!     

Now I just login to get online!

--bayla
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 08:11:50 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Why I Couldn't Find the RAM!
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              18 Aug 1992 00:47:03 EDT from <TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA>

On Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:47:03 EDT Tony Harminc said:
>megabyte.  Meg, MB, and M are common.  (Then there is the argument
>about whether a Meg is 1,000,000 bytes or 1,048,576 bytes.)

What's to argue?        ^^^^^^^^^          ^^^^^^^^^
                      this for disk       this for ram


      dan
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:25:15 EDT
From:         Bill Merrill <ST401601@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Gender
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>
>So I guess my question is, given  that the forms are so often the same,
>how do we know that the cases are different in Russian, while we are
>inclined to say along with Jakobson that they are not different in
>English?
>
Hi, Frank. (Pedantic mode on) Nom. Gen. etc. are the the names of
grammatical inflections. The accusative case ending indicates,
among other things, the direct object. English uses word order
and context to show D.O. Except for the possessive, which also
dissapears after 'of', English nouns have only one ending, -s,
which is used to show number, not case.
One *could* decline an English noun
       sg   dual  plural
  nom -0    -s     -s
  gen -'s   -s'    -s'
  dat -0    -s     -s
  acc -0    -s     -s
  abl -0    -s     -s
  ins -0    -s     -s
  loc -0    -s     -s
  voc -0    -s     -s
but what would be the point? I'm not sure that this addresses the Russian
half of the question. A similar situation prevails in Lat and Gk
neut. nom. acc. sg & pl. I'll go ahead and say they have the same
ending. Bill
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Taking Names and Kicking Butts
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thanks, don.....that was a GOOD diet coke.....

dan in baked potatoland....where more fires started last nite....
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 00:45:42 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Modems excite me....
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I finally bought a new modem; 2400 baud instead of 1200.  That's
the most my machine at school will handle. It's cheap, and it's
cute. And I think this is faster than the hardwired hookup at
school that goes through our lan...  We just came on line from
a major os upgrade though, so hard to tell.

My questions: 1) I can't watch tv and dial in any more.  There's so
much intereference from the modem.:(  What can I do?

2) I want to use procomm instead of the funky program that came w/ the
modem, so I sweated for hours over the damned modem settings.  But, I
still can't connect through procomm's dialing directory, I have to
type out the phone # in what they call the command mode.  Why?  The
modem settings and phone # are the same for both.  I'd be satisfied w/
Brute Force Mode, but that isn't how it's supposed to work...

Karen
who just realized that if she brought her modem to work she'd never
have to answer the phone again!!!  Yay!!!!
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:11:52 EDT
From:         Tony Harminc <TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      Re: To Crown
              18 Aug 1992 12:07:20 MED from <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>

On Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:07:20 MED Graham Toal said:
>So what's the difference between certificated and certified, Tony?

Certified: attested to by someone or something.
Certificated: bearing a certificate or *required* to bear a certificate.

The common use of certificated that I'm aware of is wrt certain aircraft
components which are required to bear a certificate that tracks their
provenance.  So a brake shoe would probably be a certificated part,
but an ashtray wouldn't.  A certificated part without a certificate
could not be installed.

Tony H.
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Re: comments on this phrase
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 01:39:28 GMT
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AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU (Entropy Warrior) writes:
>>What the hell is tmesis?
> It's where words get chopped up and spread around.  It's not
> infixing.  And sticking expletives between syllables is close,
> but not exactly tmesis, I think.  I first came across it in
> Homer and Vergil, some moons ago.

According to the disintegrating dictionary (Webster's New World,
College Edition, (c) 1957 (yuck)) I just borrowed here at work:

   in _rhetoric_ and _prosody_, separation of the parts of a
   compound word by an intervening word or words.  Example:
   _what person soever_ for _whatsoever person_.

--karsten

Someday I might own the OED CD-ROM - and never sleep again...
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:03:32 EDT
From:         Rashmi Murthy <rashmi@CBIS.ECE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      RE: fuzzy headed distortionn
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              Aug 17, 92 10:48 pm

>
> On Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:40:47 CDT, "Anne BWP Harwell"
 <aharwell@panam1.panam.edu>
>  wrote:
> > Thank you sisterwoman, thank you very much indeed. Didn't ANYONE catch that
> >  gubert is
> > using another logical fallacy, the ad hominem attack, in labeling me a
 liberal
> >  and
>
> No, I think calling you a liberal was a deliberate insult intended to
> provoke you :)
>
> G
>

:-)
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From:         Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS%CWU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Slooooooow

>> John, who got called Jack again today...but never what he wants to be called.
   .
>
>So what do you want to be called?
>
>Karen

Karen, if you promise not to tell anyone else, I'll tell you what John told me.
He prefers to be called Studmuffin. Please do not tell him I told you.

What?  I sent this to the whole list?  Darn.  Oh, well.

Chris
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Subject:      Icons

>>Jim (a collection of icons that symbolizes who I am) Thomas
>
>So all this means you're a Macintosh?

>-abh

You may send me a thank-you note off list for leaving that one
for you.

-Mka
Pigs are a predictable sort of beasty.
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:00:41 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      i musta been sleeping
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or else overly entranced with the ggs-saga....or something....

cuz I didn't even know Chris had unsubbed.

I HAD realized he hadn't posted on some recent fairly flammable topics....
but even THAT has happened before.

oh well


what's new up in Eburg WA??
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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1992 15:40:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: RE: Gender
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> What is it about men who identify themselves as feminist that makes me want to
> <puke>?
>
> Alan Alda
> Dustin Hoffman
> Phil Donahue
> giggles
 1)^^^^^^^^^^^
> ...and so on.
>
>
> In the nicest way possible,
  2)^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> -abh

1) Well I *never*! I may identify myself as a feminist but I am
beginning to think that I am a <masculinist>.
.
2) This is *blatant* feminist plagiarism, comes <directly> from
post by -ggs with sufficient attribution.  Where's Aaron?
--ggs (very sensitive because never published Ph.D under his own
       name...)
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From:         Joan Boorstein <boorstein%umbsky.dnet@NS.UMB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Help
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ndh asks:
>On Wed, 19 Aug 1992, Ruth M. Hanschka wrote:
>> >        /\_____/\
>> >       -/ ''''' \-
>> >        {''o o''}  Muffy, the only good cat is a dead cat!
>> >        {  \^/  }(except of course Seigi, Muffy the Cat, Maxmillian and
>> >       ////'''\\\\ friend, Lil' Bit and *maybe* Qunicy)
>> 	And of course Max - he might get upset if you forgot him.:-)
>
>And Toscanini and Cat Ballou would be very upset if you forgot them, too.

Morris and Simon ask to be included as well.

--- Joan Boorstein (boorstein%umbsky.dnet@ns.umb.edu)
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From: jthomas@well.sf.ca.us (Jim Thomas)
Subject: Re: Gender
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 04:54:46 GMT



>>Nope. Coupla points for trivialization but none for making sense.
>>Sounds like you're saying that symbols are neutral:

>Yup.  Neutral as a clear shoe polish.  That's what makes them
>symbols.  They're empty.  You can fill them with anything.  Cf.
>your associations with the American flag with those of a North
>Korean.  Q.E.D.

I suspect you confuse the artifact (sign) with its meaning (that
which it symbolizes). I can think of no symbol that is "clear as
shoe polish." Words-as-symbols shape reality, confer values,
and define expectations and ways of seeing and interpreting the world.
The masculinization of language (using the generic "he") is a
not-so-subtle way of relegating one group, "shes," to a second class
status. This thread began, as I recall, with objections to
genderized language. The social content of genderized language
doesn't seem to change no matter how hard I fill social meanings
with those of my own. Sounds like a case of radical solipsism.

Jim (a collection of icons that symbolizes who I am) Thomas
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:45:35 EDT
From:         GUBERT@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      gonadological oppression

Perhaps you are right, I have had a lot of cats de-gonaded; i.e.,
spayed or neutered.

Funny, how well those who tell us we can't understand because we're
not what they <are> know so well what we <are>.

JAG
^bwp
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From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject: Re: Marty, Are you back?
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>for a bright future under Bill and Al. I am sure I missed others so,


Thanks for the best laugh I've had all day. After all the network outages we've
been suffering lately, I needed one.

:-)

-abh
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              19 Aug 92 10:48:06 +0000. <9208191101.AA14241@sics.se>

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
  Balya claims:

  >And 'ism'is something to believe in, as 'monarchism,' 'deism,' 'atheism,'
  >and so on.  If 'feminism' the ism is simply equated with being female, then

  Sorry, but you have misunderstood these concepts. Only a monarch can
truly be a monarchist, and only a God who does not actively interfere
with the universe can be a deist. Being an atheist is easier: it just
requires not being a god.
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balderdash!  <some-sort-of-alert>

JAG
^bwp
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