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The Gay and Lesbian activity section of the Sierra Club Loma Prieta Chapter
invites you to participate in the following upcoming hikes:


    * Big Basin - Wednesday, December 30

      This is a midweek hike for those fortunate to have the week off. We
      will hike to Berry Creek Falls via the Skyline-to-the-Sea/Sunset
      Trail loop, a 12-mile, 6-7 hour hike. The trail has a lot of ups
      and downs, but provides a million rewards in the winter. Everything
      is fresh and green, and Berry Creek and Silver Falls are awesome
      torrents. We will meet at the DeFrank Center at 8:30 a.m. and 
      expect to return by 5:30 p.m. Bring a lunch and water. Boots and
      layered clothing are recommended. Rain cancels. If you have any
      questions, call Bill at 408-356-2011.


    * Mission Peak - New Year's day

      We've planned this 7-mile, 2200 foot climb for you hearty souls who'd
      like to start the new year with an exhilarating hike. We will have
      lunch while enjoying the spectacular views at the top of this 2517-foot
      peak near Fremont. Meet at the DeFrank Center at 9:00 a.m. Bring
      water, lunch, and warm clothing, including a hat. For more information,
      call George at 408-265-7341, or Fernando at 408-294-7962.


    * Mt. Madonna - Sunday, January 10th

      This park is located 10 miles west of Gilroy at the summit of 
      Hecker Pass. This short 4.5-mile loop trail will take us from Sprig
      Lake through a forest of multi-trunked canyon oaks and tall redwoods.
      Meet at the DeFrank Center at 9:30 a.m. Bring a lunch and water. 
      Rain cancels. For more information, call George at 408-265-7341, or
      Cathy at 415-964-2026.


Newsgroups: ba.motss
From: perk@Ingres.COM (Paul Perkovic 510-748-2524)
Subject: Whither the Perk and Eric parties?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords: 
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
Date: 23 Dec 92 22:17:56 GMT

To answer the thousands and thousands (well, maybe four or five) questions
about "whatever happened to the Perk and Eric parties"...we've moved from
Belmont (where we had lots of space and parking, and could just post a
net.general.invitation) to Montara (where we have been having smaller
brunches on weekends, on the coast between Pacifica and Half Moon Bay).

We're gradually inviting people who have been to our Belmont parties, but
have a few openings in our next brunch, planned for Saturday, January 2,
available to the first few lucky ba.motss responders.  These generally
run from about 1 pm until sunset, or whenever you feel like leaving.

Space is limited!  Respond by midnight tonight!  Sorry, no CODs!
If you're interested in an invitation, please send email to  perk@ingres.com
or leave voicemail, and I will respond next week before Thursday, December 30.

That's our announcement shortly before the holidays.  And have a good one!
(Holiday, that is.)


--
Apologies to Chris Thomas; sorry, I couldn't resist.

	/ perk

Paul Perkovic, Product Marketing Manager -- Open Connectivity Products
Ingres, A Division of ASK Computer Systems, Inc.   Voice: 510-748-2524
1080 Marina Village Parkway, #4026                   FAX: 510-748-3618
Alameda, CA  94501-1095                        E-Mail: perk@ingres.com
From: rhayden@oracle.com (Ronald Hayden)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: GLAS Contact... et. al.
Date: 24 Dec 92 18:37:46 GMT
	<1992Dec16.232752.13860@netcom.com>
	<1992Dec17.155739.23922@PacBell.COM>
Distribution: ba
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Belmont, Ca.
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Dec17.155739.23922@PacBell.COM> rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams) writes:

   You might want to get involved with the Bay Area chapter of
   the National Gay & Lesbian Task Force's (NGLTF) Workplace
   Initiative.  It's a loose coalition of employee groups and
   individuals representing ~30 local corporations and other
   organizations.  It meets monthly to share information on the
   kinds of issues you're probably facing.  The chairperson is
   Dan Barber from PG&E.  You can reach Dan at 415/973-4704, or
   dpb2%ees@mcs.pge.com

Dan told me his mailid won't work until his sysadmin gets him hooked
into the net, in a few weeks...
--

  - Ronald Hayden

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Newsgroups: ba.motss
From: rchilder@us.oracle.com (Richard Childers)
Subject: Re: Calling oneself "QUEER"
Organization: Memes-R-Us
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:16:30 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.


>On the minus side, I don't believe that I'd be comfortable using "queer"
>if I were straight.

True ... we have to refer to ourselves as 'wierd' or 'bizarre' or just
plain old fashioned 'abnormal' ...	(-;

-- richard

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         oracle data center  --  unix systems & network administration
                    Klein flask for rent. Inquire within.
From: XT.DEY@forsythe.stanford.edu (xt.dey)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Lesbian housemate wanted
Date: 21 Dec 1992 13:59:59 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

LESBIAN HOUSEMATE WANTED:

To share comfortable 3 bedroom home in downtown Palo Alto
near the train station and Hwy 101 starting January 4.

House is furnished, with yard and washer/dryer.  Your room
is unfurnished, but some furniture is available if needed.

Housemates include 38 year old professional and her little
dog, too.

Rent is $425 per month and includes utilities.  Ruby slippers optional.

Call 415-329-9774 (evenings)


Please do not reply to this account.
Newsgroups: ba.motss
From: rhayden@oracle.com (Ronald Hayden)
Subject: Re: GLAS Contact... et. al.
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Belmont, Ca.
	<1992Dec16.232752.13860@netcom.com>
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 06:34:12 GMT
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              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Dec16.232752.13860@netcom.com> michaelk@netcom.com (Michael Kronstadt) writes:

   I'd really appreciate information from people participating in more
   established diversity efforts, and especially from people involved in
   organizing G/L/B employee groups where there wasn't already a well
   established "community."

What kind of information would you like?

Oracle Lambda is new as an "official" group and has been doing a lot
of work to bring domestic partners coverage and diversity training and
the like.  I'd be happy to provide information/answer questions.
--

  - Ronald Hayden

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From: richw@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Rich Webber)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 15:19:07 GMT
Subject: CPSR: What can Clinton do for computing professionals?
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
From: jct@mti.sgi.com (Chris Thomas)
Newsgroups: ba.motss,soc.motss
Subject: Wanted: GLB employee assn. contacts
Date: 28 Dec 92 20:43:25 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: twink.mti.sgi.com

Hi...  I'm building a list of South Bay GLB employee groups.  If you're
part of such a group, could you send me some contact info for the group?
(A specific person, phone number, and/or email address, for instance.)
Doesn't matter if it's a big group or a small group.

Thanks!



-- 
Chris Thomas                                                (415) 390-4118
S4/7 b g+ l y+ z+ n+ o+ x-/+ a++ u v-/+ j++                jct@mti.sgi.com

Newsgroups: ba.motss
From: mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik)
Subject: Help my friend find a home!
Summary: small, cheap apt. needed Feb. 1
Organization: (getting there)
Distribution: ba
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 00:12:10 GMT


I have a friend who is looking for an apartment in SF or the
East Bay area by February 1.  His resources are limited; he'd
be delighted to keep the monthly rent below $500/month and 
can't go much above that.  He can't drive, so he needs access 
to public transportation.  (He's in Marin County now, and he 
wouldn't mind staying there if he could get into the city 
easily.)

It doesn't have to be big (obviously!), but he's looking for
a place of his own, rather than a share.  I'm from New York,
and not conversant with the Bay Area vocabulary for these 
things, but he mentioned a studio, a cottage or an "in-law"
apartment.  Kitchen facilities would be super.

He has no access to the net (but once we find him a place to
live we'll work on that!), and I'm in NYC, so please call him
directly:
Tom Herman  415-457-5010


ObMotss:  Meet my friend!

-- 

  Mara Chibnik
  mara@panix.com                Life is too important to be taken seriously.

Newsgroups: ba.dance
From: thamvan@netcom.com (Tuan Vu)
Subject: testing
Keywords: ba.dance
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 07:45:09 GMT

testing
From: billd@informix.com (William Daul)
Newsgroups: ba.dance
Subject: The Saddle Rack DECEMBER Dance Class Schedule (San Jose)
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:29:53 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.
Originator: billd@cheetah

THE SADDLE RACK (San Jose) - Dance Schedule for DECEMBER
   (off Meridian and 280)

Tuesdays    Bill Montana
Wednesdays  George Schattle
Thursdays   Dave Coffman

----->  Lessons Start at 7:30  <-----

============================================
Tuesday    1  Walkin' Wazi
	      Wooden Nickle

Wednesday  2  Alabama Swingin'
              Waltz  

Thursday   3  Boot Scootin' Boogie
	      West Coast Swing
============================================

Tuesday    8  Boot Scootin' Boogie
	      Desperado Rap

Wednesday  9  Walkin' Wazi
              Jay Walk       

Thursday  10  Country Two Step (Beginning and Advanced)
============================================

Tuesday   15  Tornado        
	      Country Two Step (Beginning and Advanced)

Wednesday 16  Schottische (Beginning and Advanced)

Thursday  17  Tush Push
              Cowboy Cha Cha
============================================

Tuesday   22  Six Count Swing (Beginning and Advanced)

Wednesday 23  Flying Eight
	      Horseshoe Special   

Thursday  24  Christmas Eve  HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!
============================================

Tuesday   29  Cherokee Kick
	      Canadian Barn Dance

Wednesday 30  Country Two Step (Beginning and  Advanced)

Thursday  31  New Years Eve  PARTY OF THE YEAR!!
============================================

UPCOMING SHOWS

New Years Eve Party      Thursday December 31st


All show tickes are available at The Saddle Rack or any BASS Ticket Outlet
-- 
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 4100 Bohannon Dr.        (415) 926-6488 - wk
 Menlo Park, CA. 94025    uunet!infmx!billd  or  billd@informix.com
Newsgroups: ba.dance
From: edgar@DrWho.Stanford.EDU (Edgar Holmann)
Subject: New Year's Eve Dancing
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 06:58:17 GMT

Does anybody have any suggestions on where to go for Ballroom
Dancing on New Year's Eve in Palo Alto or nearby?

edgar
--
Edgar Holmann                       UUCP:   decwrl!nova!edgar@uunet.uu.net
edgar@Nova.stanford.edu             BITNET: edgar%Nova.stanford.edu@stanford
Newsgroups: ba.dance
From: dmcnamar@netcom.com (Dennis McMamara)
Subject: January Irish Dancing
Organization: Composer's WorkBench
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 04:17:07 GMT

Irish Dance activities for Januray, 1993, at the United Irish Cultural
Center, 46th Ave. at Sloat, across from S.F. zoo:

Sunday, 1/10 ( 2nd Sunday): Ceili ( Irish Dance party) 6:30 upstairs in
the St. Patrick's Room;

Sunday, 1/17, Learn the Clare Plain Set, a very enjoyable dance for 4
couples in a square. 7:30;

Tues, 1/19, dance practice. Beginners welcome, also intermediate and
advanced dancers.

More information from Frank Lynch, (415)731-6252.
Cead Mile Failte ( A Hundred Thousand Welcomes) !

-- 
Dennis McNamara dmcnamar@netcom.com
Purveyor of Fine Software: Composer's WorkBench

Newsgroups: ba.dance
From: dhesi@rahul.net (Rahul Dhesi)
Subject: Re: New Year's Eve Dancing
Organization: a2i network
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 07:38:35 GMT

I typed in the following from a flyer.

====
NEW YEAR'S EVE DANCE PARTY at the Cubberly Pavilion,
4000 Middlefield Road, Palo Alto

Thursday, December 31, 1992

Beginning & Intermediate Waltz Lessons
Lessons & Music by: Steve & Tammy Rebello

Lesson: 8:00 pm
Music: 9:00 pm - 12:30 am

Sparkling Cider Toast at Midnight

Cost: $10 / person
(includes lesson, music, food, punch, sparkling cider, prizes)
No alcohol will be served!
Attire: Dress up (formalwear not required)

For more information please call Steve Rebello at (510) 522-1236.
=====
-- 
Rahul Dhesi <dhesi@rahul.net>
also:  dhesi@cirrus.com
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: knight@netcom.com (John Knight)
Subject: Where do I take donations to the homeless?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 21:34:32 GMT

I've got some old shoes, blankets and Jackets in decent 
shape which I no longer wear.  Is there a drop off point in
the south bay area where I can drop this stuff off, so that
it will get to those who need it?

thanks!
-knight

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Newsgroups: ba.general
From: ds@netcom.com (David Schachter)
Subject: Re: Can I eat the olives from our tree?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 22:31:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.073536.8381@eagercon.com> eager@eagercon.com writes:
>I can't believe that you wrote all that.  I'm astonished.  Perhaps amazed, too.

I'm just a conduit, a channeller for information from The Other Side.  As it
happens, I channel Isacc Asimov, so is it any wonder I occasionally pitch an
Asimov Cocktail (a 1000 word verbal explosion on any subject) over the wall?

Ooops, 'gotta go.  I think he wants to talk about the interrelationship
between Bosnia/Herzigovina, the invention of Steven Hawkings, and toast.
(I can't wait until James Burke and Asimov start slugging it out.  It will
be a match made in Heaven.  Or Hell, depending.  But Burke isn't dead yet,
so there may be a wait.)
-- 
 ____________________________________________________________________________
 David Schachter                                david@llustig.palo-alto.ca.us
 801 Middlefield Road, #8                            ...!decwrl!llustig!david
 Palo Alto, CA  94301-2916 USA      After 10 am, voice & fax: +1 415 328 7425
Newsgroups: ba.general,alt.folklore.urban
From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: Liquid Nitrogen to defeat The Club (was: where to buy a CLUB ...)
Organization: The Ohio State University
 <1992Dec21.205135.22302@ntmtv>
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:25:08 GMT

In the alt.locksmithing FAQ, this appears:

>7. How do I open a Kryptonite lock?
>
>    Hardest: Chill the metal of the "U" with liquid Nitrogen or
>    Freon, smash with hammer.  While this is a "well known" method,
>    it may be an urban legend.

	This sounds inexcusable.  They could just have easily
made the lock of an austenitic metal, that shows no tendency to
embrittle at low temperatures.  In fact, most become both stronger
and tougher at low temperature.  Examples include aluminum, copper and
common stainless steel. It's metallurgy.  I will not describe it, so
don't bother even asking about it.  Cost would seem to be the main drawback.
An austenitic alloy of sufficient hardness and strength, like those used
in jet engines, costs big bucks.  But, so do kryptonite locks and
THE CLUB (tm).

	By the way, some have said on AFU that liquid nitrogen is a big
hassle to haul around.  A simple thermos bottle works just fine, and
LN2 costs less then milk.  It also is not particularly dangerous.

The reason I post to alt.folklore.urban is that a post to
alt.locksmithing will get a response like the following quote:

>this isn't picking.  it's brute force. There's a large difference....
>Let't try and stick to locksmithing, not vandalism.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That has to be adaptable into an AFU motto of the fortnight.

ObUL: During WW11, the USA built ships that sailed to the
"Cold North Atlantic" (tm) , cracked in half, and sunk.

Jon "Walt disney would crack in half if hit by a hammer" Papai

Newsgroups: ba.general
From: fred_s@netcom.com (Frederick Scott)
Subject: Re: pressure those nasty Bay Area cable companies!
Organization: Nerds On Parade
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:31:43 GMT

romain@pyramid.com writes: 

>The Nasty Bay Area Cable Companies bank on the assumption that most
>people hold values different from mine.  This assumption seems to work
>well for the NBACCs; more power to them.  If, on the other hand, the
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>consumers truly felt costs vs. services were inordinate, they would
>all boycott the NBACCs and have them by their gizzards.  Would this
>ever happen?  I'd say the chances of it are about the same as
>eliminating the national debt...

Although I think you've made some perceptive points, I can't say I agree
with your approval of the "NBACCs" milking the consumer for anything they
can get while providing as bad a service as they can get away with.  (Note:
for arguments sake, I don't think they all necessarily do this.)  You have
to remember, a cable company is a regulated monopoly (which is why their
rates have to be approved by public authorities, BTW) and has no competitors.

Would you feel the same way if your only source of food was overpriced and
occasionally delivered rotten meat?  Or would you just move food further
down on your priority list?  Or perhaps boycott the food supplier?  ("After
we've all starved to death, THEN you'll be sorry!  You'll have no more
customers!")

Fred
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: tweek@netcom.com (Michael D. Maxfield)
Subject: Re: pressure those nasty Bay Area cable companies!
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:49:48 GMT

In article <16169@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <lk4al1INN2im@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> falk@peregrine.Sun.COM (Ed Falk) writes:
>|[story about lousy service from cable company deleted]
>|
>|Ya know, you can buy a device at any electronics store that allows
>|you to receive TV channels right out of thin air.  It costs less
>|than a cable box and the service is reliable and *free*.
>
>Would that be better known as an antenna?

Sounds like it... Remember those ads in TV guide showing the little dish
with a couple of rods sticking up.  The ads headlined "Pull signals right
out of the air"  "This is not cable"  "This is not satellite"  "This is not
illegal"....  I'd bet thats what it is.... and you know what... it works...

Sort of.  Back in August of 1991, I told my cable company to take a hike.
Since I lived in an apartment, I was limited with my options.  I did however
have extra space in my office/computer room, and the window faces out down
into the valley out of Moraga.  I bought a Radio Shanker uhf/vhf 75 antenna
and aimed it out of the window.  I don't get CNN or any of the other cable
channels that I would like, but I do get the SF stations, the Sacto stations,
and even channel 8 in Salinas.  It's not the best of signals always, but at
least I get to see the Simpsons on channel 40 when channel two runs a sporting
event and the cable company forgets to unblock the `duplicate' programming.

Hey, I even get my choice of 7pm or 8pm prime time on two of the three
networks that have early prime time.  But yes,  I miss the services which
cable brought me (note, there is a distinction between service and services)
I don't miss their service.


>
>|Better yet, throw your $#!@ tv in the trash.
>
>Unnecessarily self-righteous, wouldn't you say?
>
Probably at one time overloaded on Geraldo or Rosanne :) :) :) :)

just in case  O   O
                O
              \___/ 

       tweek@netcom.com  tweek@tweekco.uucp  WWIVNet 5@5058  4@5056 
          I'd rather get my cable service from the phone company,
                than my phone service from the cable company.
                (And NO, I don't work for the phone company)

Newsgroups: ba.general,alt.folklore.urban
From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
Subject: Touching Tongue to Cold Metal
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 23:01:30 GMT

In article <1h7mqpINNqm1@morrow.stanford.edu> karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish) writes:
>Maybe this is "just another urban legend" to most of us,
>but my great-uncle actually did have this problem about
>110 years ago.  He touched his tongue to an axe blade
>during a Russian winter, and lost a few taste buds in
>the process of freeing himself.

Touching tongues to cold metal and having it freeze is NOT an urban legend.
People in California don't have much experience with it, but in colder climes
it is a fairly common cruel type of practical joke to get a little brother or
sister to touch his or her tongue to a cold piece of metal (typically an
outdoor tool shed or something) and having it freeze their.

The best way to remove tongue from metal is by pouring warm water onto the
join.

As a matter of fact, this is even more of a problem in Antartica, where it
frequently gets cold enough for one's bare hands to become frozen to bare
metal (this happens occasionally when an unthinking researcher removes a
glove to make handling easier).  Since frostbite is a distinct probability
in this situation, it is important to remove metal from skin as quickly as
possible.  I'll let you guess the obvious source of warm liquid that is
recommended when one is far enough from the research facility!

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)

If God had intended Men to Smoke, He would have put Chimneys in their Heads.
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab)
Subject: Re: pressure those nasty Bay Area cable companies!
Organization: user of Netcom Public Access Unix, SF Bay Area
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 23:52:07 GMT

In article <JET.92Dec30143600@boxer.nas.nasa.gov> jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>"markc" == Mark Corscadden <markc@smsc.sony.com> writes:
>
>markc> The South Bay employee who talked to me assured me
>markc> that *everyone* got them, including a man who pays a year's
>
>I didn't get one...


   Me neither...and, for the record, I HATE South Bay Cablevision...


           -marvin


-- 
Marvin Raab                                  
marv@netcom.com                              Mountain View, CA 94040
apple.com!netcom.com!marv                    415-961-6501 (h)
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