HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: faruque@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Abdullah Faruque,334CH,3752,2654247)
Subject: Re: Should WD Caviar 2200 be noisy?
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:10:03 GMT

From article <1992Dec16.164607.27780@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, by joy@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Chien-Chung Chen):
> In article <1992Dec16.144503.23055@news.uiowa.edu> bonak@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Esmail Bonakdarian) writes:
> 
>>PS :  What stability problem with the Maxtor?
> 
> It's a long story. Briefly, the Maxtor HD was making faint clicking noise
> when the head was placed to some positions. It's not the sound of head
> moving. Instead, it's like the head was scatching the disk surface.
> I didn't wait for the HD's problem to rise, but returned it immediately.
> BTW, WD2200 is much faster than Maxtor 7213A. I'm happy that I made the
> switch.
> 
> -- Chien-Chung Chen

Can you please discuss more about your long story (If you do not want
to post it here, then you can directly mail it to me). I am very much
interested to know the exact nature of the problem that you have
encountered with 7213A drive. I was unable to relate the "stability
problem" with the noise that you mentioned. 

I recenty purchased a 7213A and it looks to me that it is a nice
drive, the noise level is acceptable to me. The noise level is much
less than the 7080A, which I owned for about an year. I was very
satisfied with 7080A and thought that 7213A would be a better choice
than WD2200. I also asked several people (local and net) about these
two drives and almost every one voted for 7213A.  Did I make a mistake
? I want to know other peoples (preferably who owned a 7213A drive for
a reasoable amount of time) opinion about it. I still have 21 days
left to get my money back or replace it with a WD2200. I know the
WD2200 is little faster, but that is not the only factor that
determines which one is a better drive.  Also, I am not too concerned
about the noise level, because each drive has its own type of usual
running noise (unless it is due to some defective parts, and in that
case you will probably notice read/write errors too). I want a drive
that will give me trouble free operation and with a low failure rate.
So, which one is better: 7213A or WD2200 ?

-Faruque
Email: faruque@sun.soe.clarkson.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: c.brennan@student.utas.edu.au (chris brennan)
Subject: Re: Stand alone disk formater
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:25:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.154043.21168@comp.lancs.ac.uk>, davei@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Mr D Ingles) writes:
> 
> Has anyone got any information / circuit diagrams on how to build a unit
> to convert a spare 3.5" disk drive into a disk formatter / copier ?
> 
> I find that a lot of the time my PC is sitting doing nothing apart from 
> formatting / copying disks.
> 
> Davei

Hi Davei,

well there are software utilities to format disks as a background task,

but the easiest method is to use a batch file ie.

rem batch file to format disks, use control-c to exit.
start:
format d:
echo ^G^Gplease replace disk in drive d:
goto start


the computer will beep at you each time it finishes formatting. 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: DogCow - where it comes from (was: Re: "Windoze" slow? Naah...Re: pc and mac: was RE: 486 and mac benchmarks)
Followup-To: comp.sys.pc.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 05:03:11 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.164642.4975@infonode.ingr.com> bbrown@infonode.ingr.com (Bailey Brown) writes:
>
>>hjwulfso@unix.amherst.edu (Harris Wulfson) writes:

>>> Imagine that. MacDraw for Windows! I don't think it will happen
>>> because Claris is a spinoff of Apple Computer.
>
>In the latest PC Magazine there is an add for FileMaker Pro for Windows.
>So Claris is already porting stuff to Windows, cause that's where
>the money is.

By the way...

I found out where the Dogcow comes from (download it from cica!). Go
to any Mac and pull up the Page Setup. Click on _Options_. See the 
DogCow? Its supposedly named "Claris" - supposedly the mascot for the 
Mac Systems Software group.

(DON'T followup any Mac vs. PC stuff to the comp.os.ms-windows.apps 
group. I've set followup to confine it to where it started. This 
one is x-posted because we were discussing DogCow a while ago).



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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga now kicks PC butt - no way.
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:39:56 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article <1gb0u9INNphn@nigel.msen.com> msp@msen.com (Jerry Foster) writes:
>Patrick Taylor (exuptr@exu.ericsson.se) wrote:
>: He just got ripped, that's all.  My 486/33 with 200 MB cost about $1600.  
>: That included 8 MB of RAM, coprocessed graphics board, mouse, v.32bis 
>: modem, etc... No sound card, of course, but if I wanted one, there are 
>: options that are a lot better than the Amiga, at around $300 or $400.

>That is a good price.  However there are other sound options available for
>the Amiga also, that are comparable in price and quality.

Ok, so there's probably level turf there.

>: And guess what?  It runs software written in 1982 for the IBM PC.  And it
>: will run software written in 1998 as long as it's not for the Pentium or
>: some later version of 80x86.

>The converse to that is a machine bought in 1982, though in theory still
>is compatible, in no way can run the software being put out today, with
>their advanced speed, memory and storage requirements.  

Sometimes yes, sometimes no.  An XT cannot run Win 3.1, but IMHO an XT was a 
piece of shit.  My Apple //e performed better.  Now starting with the 386, 
really, you will see reasonable backward compatibility for quite some time, 
I think.

>I get the feeling
>that Intel and the compatibles have a conspiracy going on about forcing
>the need for more MHz.  

Sorry, I disagree.  It is the users who make this push, with the hunger for
more power in the code.  It is true that you can write highly optimized code
that is faster than Windows, but not with all of the software-connectivity 
that Windows has.  Suddenly when you buy new software, you don't have to 
pick mouse, printer, graphics, sound, etc... drivers for each one.  You just 
do it and it's done.  That's where the HP's are going.

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                    !!! H A P P Y   H O L I D A Y S !!!
 ObQuotes:
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999)
Subject: Re: Amiga now kicks PC butt - no way.
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not necessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 20:06:31 GMT

Quoth aland@informix.com (Colonel Panic):
]> In article <1992Dec3.200102.4146@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com> jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999) writes:
]>                                                                        vvvvvvvv
]> >The peecee, with it's loathesome architecture, has been around almost 20 years
]>                                                                        ^^^^^^^^
]> >with very little in the way of change.  Food for thought... if something
]> >that offensive can last that long, imagine what an agressively marketed
]> >system like Amiga could do.  NOT that I think that C= will ever get that
]> >concept... :-/
]> >Jeff Grimmett [SuperBitMap BBS]          @ fido!1:202/1401.0 [619-460-7290]
]> 
]> Just how long is a year on your planet?
]> 
]> 
]> --
]> Alan Denney      aland@informix.com      {pyramid|uunet}!infmx!aland
]> 
]>   Smith and Wesson: the Ultimate Point-and-Click User Interface.

Depends.... wDepends.... what does "almost" mean on yours?  Tw... nah, not
gonna do it, wouldn't be prudent...
-- 
###############@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@***********************
Jeff Grimmett [SuperBitMap BBS]          @ fido!1:202/1401.0 [619-460-7290]
jeff_grimmett@f1401.n202.z1.fidonet.org  @ jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com
 The opinions expressed in this message are thoughtful, reasoned, and logical.
      	It goes without saying that they are not those of my employer.
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From: demosys@gcomm.com (Galacticomm's Demo System)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Internal 14.4K Modems
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 01:15:14 EDT
Organization: Galacticomm, Inc.




M{>Would upgrading the UART (either by board or by chip), improve the
M{>chance of obtaining 14.4k connections? (upgrade 16450 to a 16550)

Upgrading just the UART will do NOTHING for you connection.

The only time it would help is if you could MAKE the connection, and
you experienced missing characters.

Try this simple, yet often overlooked attempt....

Add an S10=30 to your initialization string....   if your phone
lines are mildly noisey, it may help.... If they are overly bad, then
you either need new lines, a better retraining modem, or need to move :>


                                                           ///
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                                                      \\\///
-Christopher L. Kotacka  // chrisk@gcomm.com           \XX/ Only Amiga
======================================================================

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>>Email should include the following on
>>the first line of message text>>   MBBS: Arch
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================ Making Modems work smarter... ================
From: scjones@thor.sdrc.com (Larry Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: 3-chip vs 9-chip SIMMs?
Keywords: DRAM memory SIMM obsolescence
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:19:55 GMT

In article <Bz9M37.I40@inews.Intel.COM>, sthe@td2cad.intel.com (Siang-Chun The) writes:
> Which is the older technology: 3-chip SIMMs or 9-chip SIMMs?

9 chip SIMMs are older.  3-chip SIMMs use one higher density chip instead
of 4 lower density chips (e.g. a 3-chip 1Mbx9 SIMM uses two 1Mbx4 chips
and one 1Mbx1 chip instead of using nine 1Mbx1 chips).

> Are 3-chip SIMMs incompatible with 9-chip SIMMs?

No, but there may be other compatibility problems.  For example, 4Mb chips
have different refresh requirements than 1Mb chips so a machine that can't
refresh 4Mb chips correctly won't work with 3-chip 1Mx9 SIMMs.  Generally
speaking, most machines shouldn't have any problem with 3-chip 256Kbx9
SIMMs and any machine that supports 4Mbx9 SIMMs should work with 3-chip
1Mbx9 SIMMs (although you may have to disable hidden refresh).  I don't
think 3-chip 4Mbx9 SIMMs exist yet.
----
Larry Jones, SDRC, 2000 Eastman Dr., Milford, OH  45150-2789  513-576-2070
larry.jones@sdrc.com  or  ...uunet!sdrc!larry.jones
Oh yeah?  You just wait! -- Calvin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: Dion-ben Hendriks <u055098@kunrc1.urc.kun.nl>
Subject: INFO on ALPS wanted?
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
X-Newsreader: NN version 6.4.19
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:07:06 GMT

Hi,
  I am looking for info on ALPS IDE harddisks, because I have
an ofer for one of these (105 Mb for +-$250,--) but have never
heard of this brand before. I would like to know about what
reputation this brand/drives have or any other useful info.

Thanks in advance,

	Dion-ben Hendriks
	U055098@kunrc1.urc.kun.nl
From: bruce@ais.com (Bruce C. Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: The Death of x86 Arch. ?
Date: 19 Dec 92 22:55:11 GMT
Organization: Applied Information Systems, Chapel Hill, NC

In article <1gqsv5INNiel@hpscit.sc.hp.com>, matthias@nsr.hp.com (Matthias Kamm) writes:
> fred j mccall 575-3539 (mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com) wrote:
> : 
> : Why would someone with one of those processors want to run NT?  I'd
> : much rather run the SGI UNIX/X stuff on an Indigo than run NT.
> : 
> You're missing the point.  People currently running DOS/Windows will
> be moving to NT.  Those users outnumber UNIX users by several orders
> of magnitude.  Sure, anyone who's used UNIX (I'll stick to HPUX :-> )
> will tend to stay with it.
> 
> : Only if you think people are going to dump UNIX and flock to NT.  They
> : aren't.  
> 
> Imagine this:
> You're "upgrading" operating systems and currently use MSDOS 5.0
> and want to keep the investment you've made in PC s/w safe. Will you 
> run your software on an x86 platform, or buy a "PC" running windows
> NT with an Alpha processor, say, with 10x the computing power!  I'd 
> BAG the antiquated x86 family and go with RISC.

The Alpha is a _really_ nice workstation - it sort of spoils you for
sluggish processors like the 486/66 :-).  But I'm not sure that the
logic here is sound -- if you're upgrading your OS and your hardware,
but trying to keep your application software, would you rather get a P5
which might run 1/3 to 1/2 the speed of the Alpha but which didn't have
to run all your x86 software in emulation mode, or would you rather
get the Alpha and run everything interpretively?

If you have one or two critical apps that require lots of performance
that you can get in native mode for the Alpha, and you have a lot of
not-so-critical apps that you can run in emulation mode, the choice is
less obvious.  Certainly Alpha is very tempting for its sheer speed (as
I said, it's very impressive to work with).  But if all of your apps
are being run in emulation mode, it probably won't be any faster than,
and will likely be slower than, the P5.  Why pay the cost premium for
the Porsche when the Chevy runs your software at the same speed?

The attraction of NT on the Alpha would be that it gives developers
the _opportunity_ (though not necessarily the _need_) to compile their
code for NT on Alpha and sell users a really fast app;  if you're
considering upgrading your apps (for example, you're really hurting
for speed), then this makes Alpha and NT very attractive.  But if
you're not ... I don't follow your logic here.

Bruce C. Wright
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From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Opinions wanted on S&F HS1200 CD-ROM drive
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:46:01 GMT
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way

Hi!

My cousin is shopping around for a CD-ROM drive.  The one he's
currently targetted is the Smart & Friendly HS1200 for $660, including
an interface card and software bundle.  Not knowing anything about
this drive or its manufacturer, I thought I would poll net.opinion on
both to find out if it's worth getting.

First off, what are the specs on the HS1200?  The ad claims 280ms access time
and sustained transfer rates of 300 Kb/sec - is this accurate?  Also, does
it have a built-in cache; if so, how big is it?  SCSI interface?

Second, is it any good in terms of more intangible features, like
documentation, warranty, ease of use, longevity, tech/customer
support, etc.?  How does it compare to other drives in its class?  Are
there any drives in its price range you would recommend over it?

While I'm at it, does anyone have anything good or bad to say about Better
Business Systems?  It's the mail order house my cousin wants to buy the
drive from, so I'd like to know a little something about them too.

I'd appreciate E-mail, and soon - he wants to order the drive so it'll
arrive in time for Christmas.  Many thanks in advance.
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From: lmebold@csghsg5a.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: WIDE-SCSI ???
Date: 13 Dec 92 07:33:03 GMT
Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland

Hi

As far as I know, Wide-SCSI uses an additional cable to the
normal 50pin-connection - Therefore datatransfer can be 
increased. Are there any harddrives supporting that?
Or are todays harddrives faster than the EISA-bus can
move data anyway?

Thanks for your help

             -Luke


PS: I'm still looking for Mylex's FAX-number or their
    mail-address.
From: ab245@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sam Latonia)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Help, my system keeps crashing
Date: 15 Dec 1992 09:25:54 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


Set your CMOS set up to AUTO CONFIGURE setting first. Then one by
one change them back to what you had them set at when you were
having the crashes. Something in the cmos is set wrong most likely
the bus speed is to hi. Try it at a /5  that = 8mhz...Sam
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: ljnelson@unix.amherst.edu (LAiRD j. NeLSoN)
Subject: Avoid ZEOS
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:04:32 GMT

[ Article crossposted from comp.misc ]
[ Author was ljnelson@unix.amherst.edu ]
[ Posted on Fri, 11 Dec 1992 04:26:04 GMT ]

Just a quick experience my roommate has had with ZEOS International:

On November 12th he bought a 486/50 upgrade--a new mother board to be dropped
into his existing 386/16.  The sale was completed in a snap, and he shipped
the computer off.  They promised a 10 day turnaround, assuring him that 
the swap would be relatively simple.

It is now December 11th, and he still has not received his computer back.
Customer service has been absolutely reprehensible, passing the buck and
the responsibility for all the mindless shuffling of paperwork to practically
every department.  He has been told on two or three separate occasions that
the computer would be shipped back to him "today, or tomorrow at the latest."
On each of these occasions he has been assured that the computer was "in 
repair" and was undergoing its 24 hour burn-in test.  Fedex deliveries have
been promised and have not materialized.  Within two or three days, ZEOS will
have held on to his computer for 30 days, after which they are required to 
ship it back or replace it by law.

That such an otherwise apparently respectable company should be so lacking in
supporting its customers seems ridiculous to me; I thought reputation was
more important than that.  Here, at least, are two people who will never 
deal with ZEOS again.

Responsibility, apparently, is nowhere to be found; everyone whom my roommate
has contacted has claimed that they are not involved in the process: from sales
to customer service to repair.

Miserable response and "support" such as this is what gives mail order its
bad name.  I have recommended to others on campus who are thinking of buying
computers to avoid ZEOS; I would do the same for *anyone*.

LAiRD

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From: rick@rgb.com (Rick Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: VGA signal splitter device
Date: 12 Dec 92 02:17:13 GMT
Organization: RGB Spectrum

knw7719@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.N. Waterman) writes:

>Hello,

>I need a VGA signal splitter device.

>I need to connect two monitors to one system.
>I can't seem to find one in the Shopper.
>Does anyone know where I can get one of these?

Black Box Corp. sells all kinds of cables, splitters, distribution
amps and extenders. Call them at (412) 746-5500. They have
an extemely cool catalog too.

Rick Davis
rick@rgb.com
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              950 Marina Village Parkway  / "You can't fight in here - this
                  Alameda, California     / is the war room! - Dr. Stragelove"
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From: aron@luxor.ced.berkeley.edu (aron bonar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: SpeedStar 24X - driver problems
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:01:44 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: luxor.ced.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Dec9.090655.13753@newstand.syr.edu>, cychiu@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Chien-yuan  Chiu) writes:
|> In article <1g1j75INNrh@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> jmeyers@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jeff Meyers) writes:
|> >A few weeks ago, there was an ongoing discussion about video cards, their
|> >speeds, prices, etc.  It looked like the current deal was the Diamond
|> >SpeedStar 24X - good performance/cost ratio...
|> >
|> >Well, I got one and found that there are problems with their drivers. Namley,
|> >I use the 800x600x256 driver and found that MS Works for Windows coughs up
|> >a GPF when you try and load a file.  Also, Word for Windows does the same
|> >thing when you try to set the preferences (tools|options).  I contacted
|> >Diamond Customer Support through America OnLine and basically got a
|> >"we don't know when the new drivers will be out..." response.
|> >
|> 
|> I also have the same problem under 640x480x256 and 800x600x256 mode but it
|> seems ok under another mode.
|> 
|> 

What about the 32,768 color drivers for 640x480 and 800x600?
Have you had any problems with those?  If not, why don't
you use them?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Sergei Borodin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: S3 programming info
Date: 12 Dec 92 19:39:20 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


  Does anybody out there have prog. reference for an S3 based
  video boards? I'd appreciate a copy.

  S.B.
From: lee@tosspot.sv.com (Lee Reynolds)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Arnet Multiport card for swap!
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:00:59 GMT
Organization: Ludus Associates, Incorporated.

Hi.

   I have an Arnet Multiport card (4 port version) plus DOS and
OS/2 drivers.  I have no particular use for it so would like to
exchange it for something of use to me.

Anyone have anything interesting?  I'd be particularly interested
in a XT based PROM burner add-on or maybe a small MFM hard disk
or LIM card for XT systems.......(I have a 384/40 as main machine,
an old XT as a side device, so stuff for it could be interesting!)

                  Thanks,
                           Lee  (lee@tosspot.sv.com)
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From: ibhan@husc10.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: "Windoze" slow? Naah...Re: pc and mac: was RE: 486 and mac benchmarks
Date: 13 Dec 92 00:56:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc10.ibhan.724208212

>Iskandar Taib (ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu) wrote:

>Imagine that. MacDraw for Windows! I don't think it will happen
>because Claris is a spinoff of Apple Computer.

Ummm...Claris is already making software for Windows.
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                                     - - - 
           "Your hats all off and I'm...gone away." -The Cure
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