HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li)
Subject: Re: Yan Xing and Qi Gong, Is It Science?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 17:56:14 GMT

In article <SOSC1069.93Jan3105600@highway.yorku.ca> sosc1069@highway.yorku.ca (Ming He) writes:
>
>	I heard many reports of Qi Gong and exceptional ability (te4
>	yi4 gong1 neng2).  Sadly I have never experienced such
>	occasion.
>
>	Once, one of my friend, a university student, pointed his
>	finger towards my palm and asked me whether I felt some
>	pressure.  I didn't.  But as he insisted, I felt it is
>	possible there is a pressure.  After I thought it, I belived
>	that is some reaction of my own under some mental pressure,
>	not resulted from his action.
>
>	Is there any one who had really expreienced some treatment
>	from a master?  Is that a clear feeling?

Yan Xing's claim that his Qi Gong is science is quite abusive.
Science is based on observation, derivation and logic. Science
is to make the complex world understandable, not more mysterious.
Yan Xing might have misconception that since Black Hole sounds
mysterious and therefore science is mysterious. Yan Xing might
imagine since atom is invisible, therefore science is invisible.

But science is a very solid subject. Recently a fellow of American
Science Academy was fired because he put redundant digit in his
experimental report (I was told by my former advisor who himself
is a fellow of American Science Academy). I am very surprised that
Yan Xing claims C. N. Yang (fellow of American Science Academy) and 
Zhao Zhongyao (fellow of Chinese Science Academy) are both his
supporters. Dr. Zhao Zhongyao even gave high evaluation of his
"experiment". 

I wouldn't mind if someone making political or religious speech
claiming some unproven things, or even lying. But since he claims that
it is science, we should dig it out. Especially for Dr. C. N. Yang
and Zhao Zhongyao. Science if not for prestige, but for continuing
development of human understanding. If C. N. Yang makes irresponsible
referee comments, he is not qualified as the fellow of American
Science Academy. Or else Yang Xing should be responsible for his
random citation.


>	Some Christians view Qi Gong as sort of evils.  I think
>	Christianity has number of things that is not logical.
>
>	The most I can't believe is it was said Yan2 Xin1 once forced
>	a rain on Da4_Xing1_An1_Ling3 when there was a fire on
>	1986(?).  Was there a large rainfall or small rainfall?  Could
>	he try number of times and then stop the fire?  If quite a
>	number of Chinese know how to do the magic Yan2 Xin1 does,
>	China would be the most powerful nation I guess.

I don't know if American Science Academy recognize man was created
by God six thousand years ago. I believe they don't. I am sad that
so many Ph. D.'s blindly believe Yan Xing. Fortunately most of
them are only mathematicians :-).
From: math1pu@elroy.uh.edu (Luo, Youngping)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Another situation puzzle
Date: 31 Dec 1992 14:57 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: elroy.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Hi, guys!

I am new to this group and not interested in political issues.  If you like
sports, here is a question for you:

Whom would you consider, in the history of world soccer, the best midfielder
of all times?                                                ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^

I am aslo trying to locate people who played ever soccer for the university team
at Fudan or anyone who played this ball game before and still interested in this
game in Houston area. I got a news for you, there's hope!

The other day an archaeologist claimed, among other things, that he found in
Africa an ancient coin dated 46 B.C.. Would you believe him?

Doug Luo



Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yuen@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au (Daniel Yuen)
Subject: Re: Another fun problem (SOLUTION)
Organization: BHP Steel, Sheet & Coil, Research & Technology Centre
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 02:30:37 GMT

I have promised to provide the solution to the following problem :
  
  Can you pick a bad ball among 13 balls *and* identify if it is heavier 
  or lighter in 3 weighings ?  If not, can you *prove* that it can't be 
  done?

My solution says that it can't be done.  However, I received an e-mail
indicating that this problem has been solved and that it has been shown
(or *proved*) that it could be done.  If so, I'd love to see someone post
a 'counter-solution' or send me an e-mail.

Here goes my solution :

1.  Determine the total number of possible outcomes N.  In this case, N=26
    (each of the balls can be either heavier or lighter, and there are 13 
    balls altogether).

2.  Determine the probability P of each outcome (singleton event).  Here
    P(i)=1/26, where i refers to outcome i (equal probability for each 
    outcome).

3.  The information corresponding to outcome i is I(i) :
      I(i) = -log2(P(i))  for all i  [....trust me :-)]
           = 4.70 bits
      where log2 = log to the base 2
    i.e. IN ORDER TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, ONE NEEDS TO DEDUCE 4.70 bits OF
         INFORMATION FROM 3 WEIGHINGS.

4.  In each weighing, there can be 3 possible outcomes : left side
    heavier (LH), left side lighter (LL), or both sides equal (BE).  The
    information contents associated with these outcomes are -log2(P(LH)),
    -log2(P(LL)) and -log2(P(BE)) respectively.
    
5.  In order to account for the worst case, we aim at maximising the 
    minimum of the information obtained.  Since the higher the probability
    of the outcome, the lower the information content [I=-log2(P)], we
    thus aim at minimising the maximum of the probabilities of the outcomes
    in each weighing.

6.  For one weighing, the best possible scenario is P(LH)=P(LL)=P(BE)=1/3,
    and the maximum information thus deduced in one weighing is 
    log2(3) = 1.585 bits

7.  However, for the first weighing, we could not have P(LH)=P(LL)=P(BE)=1/3.
    The best we could do is to have 4 balls on each side of the balance, in
    which case P(LH)=P(LL)=4/13 and P(BE)=5/13.  Thus, maximum probability
    is P(BE) and information deduced from this weighing is only
    log2(13/5) = 1.379 bits

8.  Hence, even if we deduce maximum information from the second and third
    weighings, the maximum possible information (from the worst outcome) 
    that can be deduced from 3 weighings is
      1.379 (first weighing) + 1.585 + 1.585 = 4.549 bits < 4.70 bits,
    thus the problem *cannot* be solved.

Cheers.
Daniel (yuen@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au)
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:05:32 EST
From: <JXX2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: test

This is a test. Please ignore it.
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Another situation puzzle
Date: 21 Dec 92 18:15:12 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <102838@netnews.upenn.edu> hxie@dps91a.cis.upenn.edu (Hong Liang Xie) writes:
>A man is sitting in bed in a hotel room.  He makes a phone call,
>saying nothing, and then goes to sleep. 

Too many possibilities here.  He found the phone is dead, or no one is
answering, or he just changed his mind, or he just suffered a heart
attack...

-- 
//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //Go your way, be happy.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yxu@violet.uwaterloo.ca ()
Subject: Vectorized Chinese Font Lib
Keywords: Chinese Font Vector
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 22:08:12 GMT



Happy New Year Every One:

    As I understand, there are two methods to represent Chinese fonts,
    one is in dot-matrix, another is in vectors (structure).

    Could any dear netter tell me where I can found the Chinese font
    libraries by the second method ?

    Thanks and wish you all lucky in the new year.

    Yan XU 
    _______________________
    yxu@violet.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Louisville
Date: Wednesday, 23 Dec 1992 13:41:04 EST
From: <DHZHAN01@ULKYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Survey of LIST for Shanghai Nanyang Mofan High School

I am an alumnus of Shanghai Nayang Mofan High School in 1981. I am thinking
about to create a distribution list for all alumnae and alumni of NaMo to
exchang our info. and get together. I need about 50 people who are alumnae or
alumni of NaMo, Shanghai to be interested in this issue. Then I will create
that list on our LISTSERV. Please send me your email address if you are alumni
or alumnea of NaMo and like to have this discussion list. And also I like you
to give me the name of the list you think is the best one(it should be 8
characters).
Thank you for your interesting and have a happy holiday season!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yu030@cs.cuhk.hk (Yu Wai Leung)
Subject: Re: Mongolia
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 01:35:13 GMT

>In article <92350.153049ROS100@psuvm.psu.edu> <ROS100@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>Hello everyone:
>>
>>Could someone please tell me how the Han Chinese feelabout the Mongolians (aft
>>er the ousting of the Chinese from Outer Mongolia in the 1920's?) and also why
>>the Mongolians insist that their New Year (which coincidentally falls on the sa
>>me day as the Chinese New Year) has nothing to do with the chinese new year?
>>
>>Olej

Perhaps Olej is a Mongolian.
I feel sorry for the Mongolians (in outer Mongolia) because they have to suffer from nearly 70 years of Soviet domination before they could gain a full independence.

>I have never seen a Mongolian, nor heard much about them. So I don't feel
>about them, except perhaps curiosity.

In Chinese schools we are taught that Mongolians are a minority people
of China. There are about 3 million Mongolians living in the Inner 
Mongolian AR of China. (Quite suprisingly, there are only 2 million
Mongolians living in Outer Mongolia).

The KMT govt in Taiwan still does not recognize (Outer) Mongolia and
regards (Outer) Mongolia is an integral part of the Republic of China.
The PRC govt recognize (Outer) Mongolia immediately after the foundation
of PRC (in 1949).

>"Chinese" New Year is a misnomer. It should be Lunar New Year. This 
>Oriental calendar system synchronizes with the moon more than with the sun.

Not totally agree, I think the lunar calendar system tries to synchronze both the moon and the sun. And this calendar system is a complex one.  

>NGOK


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: gmo@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Guobiao Mo)
Subject: test 
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 23:35:11 EST

This is a test.
!!!!!



Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: fengxi@prancer.eche.ualberta.ca (Fengxi Zhou)
Subject: Re: What happened to the Long March?
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 05:27:40 GMT

huangz@topaz.ucq.edu.au writes:
: 
: satellite launched by Chinese. The first one was launched successfully several 
: months ago, but in its second try. The first launch was failed in March 
: (or May). The rocket was fired but not lifted yet, and the satellite was 
: saved. I saw the Australian director's tear on TV, but actually we should
: cry. 
:
The first launch was aborted before lift off and the sat was taken away to
safety.

This one I am not so sure. The Aussies and Americans are suggesting the sat
was damaged during lifting off. There was a small fire or explosion of some
sort during early stage after lifting off. The true story will not be known
to public before a likely lengthy investigation.
From: mho@sdcc3.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Pan-Pacific Conference X, Beijing, June 10-12, 1993
Summary: Call for Papers
Date: 3 Jan 93 01:17:30 GMT
Reply-To: zli@biosym.com
Organization: Biosym Technologies, Inc.

The 10th PAN-PACIFIC CONFERENCE on Economic and Technological Cooperation 
and Development '93

Call for Contributions



ORGANIZER: China Center for the Advancement of Science and Technology 
(under National Science Commission)
 
LOCATION and TIME: Beijing, June 10-12, 1993

THEME:
1) Pan-Pacific business activities, technology and educational
exchanges,  and collaborative mechanism

2) China's market economy, investment environment, open-door policy,
and international comparative studies  

3) Research and development, technology innovation and diffusion, 
and science policy 

4) International investment, internationalization of enterprises
and management 

5) Comparative studies of management, and of culture and education 

6) Joint-enterprises, high-tech development, and international
comparison 

7) Economic growth and government policy: international comparison 

8) Economic system transformation, manufacture structural
transformation and business opportunities

9) Trade relationship, trade protection and GATT 

DEADLINE for Contributions: March 1, 1993.

CONTRIBUTION SPECIFICATIONS and CONTACT ADDRESSES: 
(see the circular in Chinese which is available upon request from 
Zhenqin Li at zli@biosym.com, by providing your postmail address
and/or FAX number; English circular is unavailable). 


Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:33291 soc.culture.taiwan:16410 soc.culture.hongkong:16563
From: gyu@bass.bu.edu (Guo-Xiang Yu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Is Taiwanese CHinese?
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:10:05 GMT
Reply-To: gyu@bass.bu.edu (Guo-Xiang Yu)
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Distribution: na
Organization: Boston University

In article <BzE3BC.FG7@ecf.toronto.edu> huangs@ecf.toronto.edu (HUANG SUNG CHING) writes:
>
>      There are also a number of people from Mainland China in this group of
>discussion.  Some of them are evidently pro-CCP from their arguments and 
>comments.  I have a feeling that it must be a CCP plot to have them infiltrate
>here and fuel disharmony and discontent among people from Taiwan by bring 
>about issues that does not concern them, i.e. Independence.  It is for us
>to decide, not them.

Should I say "Some of them are evidently pro-(DPP) from their arguments and 
comments.  I have a feeling that it must be a (DPP) plot to have them 
infiltrate here and fuel disharmony and discontent among people from Taiwan".
I am very glad I am now living in the territory of USA which guarantee the 
right of free speach by the constitution. Taiwan's future is decided by 
the whole Taiwan people, but that dosn't mean other people can't discuss 
this issue. May be you can say Somalia problem does not concern American, 
Iraq does not concern American either. 

Make some points if you feel having something to say next time. Block 
people's mouth and deprive people's free speach right are used to be CP's
copywrite. Don't take any legacy that not belongs to you. I am sure you 
are not among the beneficiaries of the CP. 

-Guo-Xiang Yu





Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.japan
From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Hus Fu and the Japanese
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 01:59:21 GMT

In article <1hd56rINNsbr@zygote.hsc.usc.edu> jamesou@zygote.hsc.usc.edu (James Ou) writes:
I wrote:
>
>>This is a problematic point; the emperor of Qin, Yin2 Jen4, was not really
>>more tyrannic than most of the emperors who came later;
>
>True, but he was more tyrannic than the kings of the other
>warring states before the unification of China. He was tyrannic,
>because he was the first person to set up the law to execute
>anybody who dared to mention anything about the government on the
>street (Yu3 Yu3 Qi4 Shi4 [death penalty for talking on the
>street]). He was also the person who slaughtered all the people
>of a village only because someone casted on a meteorite a sentence
>cursing him.

Well, you can argue that the circumstances are different, but huge slaughters
were not unknown in Eastern Chou and earlier periods.  For example, over a
fight by women of two villages near the Wu and Chu borders, the two armies
slaughtered the two villages.

>Also look at the Palace (A1 Fang2 Gong1) and
>the tomb he built, hundreds of thousands of people were enslaved
>to do these two jobs.

Well, his palace wasn't really all that extraordinary.  Just a few years after
the collapse of his dynasty, Shao Her, the prime minister of Han, built a
great palace (Wei Yang Gong) as well, and the palace, by the admission of the
emperor, Liu Bong, was extravagant.  Also, hundreds of years before Ying Zheng,
Chu kings have already built such structures as the famous Ling Tower, etc.

>There was no question that Ying Zheng was a
>tyrant. However, IMO, the worst crime that Qin2 Shi3 Huang2
>committed was to burn books and prevent ordinary people from
>learning.

True.
>
>>however, he got most
>>of his blame unfairly from Confucian historians due to the fact that he
>>favored legalism (and not Confucianism).
>
>No, historians blamed him because he was indeed a tyrant.

Then, why didn't they blame Liu Che4 (Han Wu Di) for pretty much the same
things that Ying Zheng did?  Why didn't they blame Yang Guang, who was far
worse than the two mentioned above, as much as they blamed Ying Zheng?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: Sanyee_Tang@mindlink.bc.ca (Sanyee Tang)
Subject: Jin, Song and Mongol (Was Re: Mongolia)
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 05:55:27 GMT

    In article <C043wL.DCw@unix.portal.com> (31 Dec 1992)  CELIA TONY BECKER
writes,

> Please read a little more history beyond the abridged and reformed
> materials fed to you by the communist Chinese government.  There are
> many excellent books by historians of many countries in most university
> libraries.  ...  Recall that it was the Chinese government's murder of
> Genghis Khan's father that prompted him to take over China.

    The history book you read, I suppose it is a western book, may call
the regime that once oppressed Mongol at that time, the Jin Dynasty in the
north China, as a "Chinese government."  However, we Chinese, in the North
America or back to China, would rather think the Song Dynasty in the south
China was the true "Chinese government" :-).  Jin was just another north
nomads, like Mongol.

    Of course Genghis Khan had to break Jin's yoke first before he could
go out to conquer other nations.  But the actual take-over of Jin happened
much later, after your Great Khan's glorious conquer of Kwarazm, and in
fact, seven years after his death.

    So, I guess, either it was those Turks in the Minor Asia who murdered
Genghis Khan's father thus prompted him to take over Kwarazm ;-) or, he
died in his march to Xixia (West Xia), well, you may call Xixia another
Chinese government, that prompted his son to take over China.

    But then, was Mongol at that time just yet another "Chinese government"?
For example, Marco Polo definitely thought he reached China in 1975, though
he was in Mongol's court, and we Han Chinese, under Song's banner, was still
fighting against Genghis Khan's grandson.

    The difference in the perceptions of "China" around the 13th century
sometime brings about interesting anecdotes.  In the early '60s, Chinese
communists had a fierce debate with their Russian brothers.  The Russian
invoke the ghost of the Yellow Peril.  They though Mongol took over China
(Jin Dynasty) at 1234, then trampled Moscow at 1238.  So it was China's
Khan attacked Russia.  CCP shouted back in one of their 9 Ping (The Nine
Commentaries), by quoting Lu Xun,

    "Come on, comrades, the Mongol conquered your guys first, we became
their slaves 40 years later, at 1279.  It was your Russian Khan attacked
China (Song Dynasty)."

    Maybe those Slavs murdered Genghis Khan's mother so he took over Moscow
and Kiev for revenge.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: Newwer China
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 20:46:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.203145.13153@topaz.ucq.edu.au> huangz@topaz.ucq.edu.au writes:
>1. About one week ago, Chinese government ordered the French consulate in
>   Guangzhou to be closed, responding France selling 50 fighters to Taiwan.
>          
>      -- I thought:"Right! But no enough!"
>
>   Today I learned that Guangzhou mayor Li Ziliu had told the French that 
>   they would not been offered a chance to take the contract of $billions
>   Guangzhou subway project, according to instructions from CG.
>
>      -- I feel better now.
>
>2. The first privately run TV station in China will open in 1 January 1993.
>   The Southeast Broacasting Cooperate is based in Fujian, its programs will
>   be broacasted through satellite Asia-I, and can be received all around 
>   south-east Asia. 
>
>      -- Long live SBC!
Chinese movies are not going to be monoplied the the Government. Movie makers
are going to be on their own finacially, which will lead to free expression
in movie industry in China.
chunde


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: carl_@nwu.edu 
Subject: Re: Bosnia Rape, What Could the World Do?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 23:51:36 GMT

In article <C03HJs.8qL@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Yang Yuanxin)  
writes:
> In article <BznAqx.4sG@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu  
(xiao-lin li) writes:
> >
> >The following is a horrible story article from NYT. It reads much
> >like what I read about "The Rape of Nainjing".
> >
> >-----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >	Copied without permission from:
> > 	The New York Times OP-ED Sunday, December 13, 1992
> >
> >	Rape After Rape After Rape
> >
> >	ZAGREB, Croatia.  What is happening in Bosnia and Herzegovina to 
>      
>    I didn't finish reading it, because I just DON't BELIEVE IT IS TRUE!
> 
>    If people in that country(former Yogoslavia) can commit this kind of
> crime, I can't trust the woman who told the story.....
> 
> YY

You are right. The news is not from People's Daily. It is a lie. Only People's  
Daily has truth. You don't even need to comment on this. Everybody knows that  
only People's Daily speaks of truth. Long live Mao Zhuxi!

Carl
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: dsg0221@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chris Song)
Subject: Memorial service for Mr. XinLing Zheng.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 23:07:14 GMT


*******************************************************************************
		ANOUNCEMENT OF MEMORIAL SERVICE FOR 
			MR. XINLING ZHENG

	Formerly:	
		Physics Dept., Univ. of Illinois-Urbana, 1988-1991
		Physics Dept., Class of 1984, Beijing University,
			       1984-1988

        After a courageous two-year battle with the disease,  Mr.
Xinling  Zheng  died  of liver cancer on November 24, 1992 in his
hometown of Hangzhou, Zhejiang Province, China.  He  is  survived
by his parents and two elder brothers.

        After graduating from Beijing University, he came to  the
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign to pursue his graduate
studies in physics.  Unfortunately, the deadly disease struck him
at the golden age of 24, and after exhausting all possible treat-
ments here in the United States, he went home and  continued  his
struggle  with  the help of Chinese medicine.  Even though he had
out-lived the doctor's prediction by more than one year, he still
couldn't pull through in the end.  As his friends and colleagues,
we deeply deplore the lose, and we will always  remember  him  as
an intelligent, warm, gentle, sincere, and humorous human being.

        In order to pay our tribute to him, a memorial service is
scheduled  at  3pm,  Wedensday,  December  30,  1992 in Room 144,
Loomis Lab of Physics at the corner of Green and Goodwin in Urba-
na.  Your participation is greatly appreciated.


        ---     Friends      of      Xinling's      at      UIUC.
*******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china