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From: borst@cs.utexas.edu (Christoph W. Borst)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: BASS TAB TO SANITY BY BAD RELIGION
Date: 9 Oct 1992 23:12:46 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
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Bass for Bad Religion's "Sanity"

Estimated and typed by mohawk@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu               10/01/92

Play the figures below in the following sequence:

                PPQQ PQPQ PPPP RSRS T PPQQ PQPQ PPPP RSRS T PPQQ RSRS T


     127 bpm; quarter-note gets the beat; these are almost all eighths.


                    G -------------------------------------------------
Figure P:           D -------------------------------------------------
                    A -0--0--0--0--2--2--2--2--3--3--3--3--5--5--5--5--
                    E -------------------------------------------------


                    G -------5-----------7-----------------------------
Figure Q:           D ----7-----7-----9-----9--------10----------12----
                    A ----------------------------10----10----12----12-
                    E -5-----------7-----------8-----------10----------


                    G -------------------------------------------------
Figure R:           D -------------------------------------------------
                    A -------------------------------------------------
                    E -5--5--5--5--3--3--3--3--1--1--1--1--3-----3-----


                    G -------------------------------------------------
Figure S:           D -------------------------------------------------
                    A -------------------------------------------------
                    E -5--5--5--5--3--3--3--3--1--1--1--1--0-----0-----


                    G -------------------------------------------------
Figure T:           D -------------------------------------------------
                    A -------------------------------------------------
                    E -5--5--5--5--5--5--5--5--3--3--3--3--3-----------


(I think this is how I play it, and it works, but who knows?)
From: marshall1198@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Pickups?
Date: 9 Oct 92 12:26:49 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <4epDey_00Uh_49bWZb@andrew.cmu.edu>, Brian William Carroll <bc2u+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>     I have a Fender J-P bass with active electronics and I am
> considering putting new pick-ups in it but I am not very knowledgeable
> in the ways of pick-ups. Does anyone have any recommendations.
> 

Try Fender Lace Sensors, DiMarzio's and Bartilloni's.  Also, I think that
Carvin ones sound pretty sweet.

Maybe a DiMarzio P and a Bartilloni J.

-- 
Evan Marshall                            ************************************
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From: ddogan@AFIT.AF.MIL (Darryl Dogan)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass,rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: Graham Central Station was:(Bootsy Collins)
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:05:55 GMT
Organization: Air Force Institue of Technology, WPAFB OH

In article <1992Oct14.110029.14915@etek.chalmers.se> superfly@etek.chalmers.se (Palle Zetterstrand) writes:
>Path: blackbird.afit.af.mil!udecc.engr.udayton.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!jvnc.net!gmd.de!Germany.EU.net!mcsun!sunic!chalmers.se!etek.chalmers.se!etek.chalmers.se!superfly
>From: superfly@etek.chalmers.se (Palle Zetterstrand)
>Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass,rec.music.funky
>Subject: Re: Graham Central Station was:(Bootsy Collins)
>Message-ID: <1992Oct14.110029.14915@etek.chalmers.se>
>Date: 14 Oct 92 11:00:29 GMT
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>>In article <ddogan.17.718977448@AFIT.AF.MIL> ddogan@AFIT.AF.MIL (Darryl Dogan) >writes:

>[Looong discussion abt Bootsy deleted] 
>> Speaking of bass players...has anyone seen Graham Central Station on CD?

>Shuh have.
> Listened to a Japanese CD by GCS at a record store recently. It was so-so 
> and I have forgotten its name ("Do that dance"?). Think it was from 78.
> I suspect there must be more CD's available if he stayed on the same
> record company for a longer time. It was on Warner Bros if my mind don't
> fail me. Can anyone enlighten me on which GCS records I should buy. 
> Saw one called "Mirror", but it was wellworn and rather expensive.

>-- 
>********************The revolution will not be computerized*******************
>name:Palle Zetterstrand                       e-mail:superfly@etek.chalmers.se
>no future without a past"..."There is no future without a past"..."There is no

  I recommend three.  The first, "Graham Central Station", the 
second, "Release Yourself" and the third, "Ain't No Bout A Doubt It".  The 
rest have their moments.  Purchase at your own risk.
From: rost@rgb.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Pickups?
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:14:53 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <4epDey_00Uh_49bWZb@andrew.cmu.edu>, Brian William Carroll <bc2u+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes...
>    I have a Fender J-P bass with active electronics and I am
>considering putting new pick-ups in it but I am not very knowledgeable
>in the ways of pick-ups. Does anyone have any recommendations.
> 

It helps if you can describe what it is you dislike about the sound you are
getting now.  

					Brian Rost @rgb.enet.dec.com

					508-568-6115

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Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass,rec.music.funky
From: spence@snake.esd.sgi.com (Spencer Murray)
Subject: Re: Bootsy Collinsdir
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 01:02:40 GMT


In article <1992Oct12.123610.3817@vax.muskingum.edu>, kimple@vax.muskingum.edu writes:
> In article <1992Oct12.114732.14096@bilpin.co.uk>, mark@bilpin.co.uk (Mark Allerton) writes:
> >>Can anyone recomend a CD that shows Bootsy Collins' bass playing at its finest?
> > 
> 
> I've been diggin' the new PRAXIS cd...while it isn't all-out funk, it does have
> it's moments where Bootsy gets to shine.
> 
> jd

I have to second this. I've been listenin' to Praxis *alot* since
I got it a couple of weeks ago.

... and Bootsy does get off on some of those tracks ...

spence
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: carls@Ingres.COM (Carl Stanley)
Subject: Re: Status II Basses
Reply-To: carls@Ingres.COM (Carl Stanley)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:18:02 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.135034.22520@news.yale.edu> mceachen@retina.med.yale.edu   writes:
>The other day this women saw me loading my gear and approached me about this bass
>she was trying to unload.  She described it as a 5-string "Status II". Headless 
>model, graphite neck.  
>
>Anyone heard of this bass before? And if so how much do they run?
>
>Thanks.
>
>John
>
Status basses are very high quality (& high priced) instruments - last time
I was down in LA I tried out a 4-string Status which was all graphite and
it was going for $2500.  However, it was an excellent bass, very fast, and
perfect for slapping.  A notable user of Status basses is Mark King of 
Level 42.

If the person you speak of asks any less than $1000 it is probably 
stolen....

Carl Stanley
Ingres
Data Comm
carls@ingres.com

  I play in the SF-based band Fracture, which is thrash/grunge/noise/jazz/
						     funk/improvcore/metal..
From: aaron@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Les Claypool Style (was Re: Slap Style)
Date: 7 Oct 92 08:21:47 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

me
 > But he doesn't really slap per se, more strums hard
 > (or at least that is what it sounds like to me and it
 >  is the only way I can emulate the sound)
: 
: 
: He does both - watch him if you get the chance. Unbeleivable, he makes it look
: like he's not doing a thing if you watch his face.
: 
: jd

Saw him supporting Rush although I couldn't really guage his facial expression.
He was bouncing one leg up and down throughout the performance which I would
have found difficult enough! Fretted or fretless can nothing stop this man?
He did seem to be strumming quite a lot although in a fairly staccato -
short strums with what appeared to be slaps with the base of the thumb, but
I admit that for some songs he did very overtly slap in the classic way.

 	Aaron Turner	aaron@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Opinions of The Stick?
From: plopper@husc8.harvard.edu (George Plopper)
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:46:02 EDT
Distribution: alt.guitar.bass
Organization: Harvard University Science Center
Keywords: Chapman Stick

Just a thought, since I haven't seen it mentioned here: How many of
you bassists play The Chapman Stick as well? What do you think of it
as a bass instrument?  For those who are not familiar with it, it's
tough to describe, but it is a fretted, 10-string instrument with the 
same scale length as a long-scale bass. Five of the strings are "bass" strings,
and the other five are "melodic" (i.e., guitar) strings. Instead of
picking or strumming the strings, one plays The Stick by tapping on
the strings at the appropriate fret with the fingertips from either hand, 
thus enabling the player to play bass and melody chords/lines simultaneously.
(Sounds great, huh?) The sound, not surprisingly, is rather percussive
and crisp, not unlike the slap/pop sound from bass guitar.

IMHO, I can't for the life of me figure the damn thing out. The bass strings
have the most bizzare tuning I have ever heard of, and to get used to it
it seems like I would have to forget everything I know about bass.  I used
to play a bit of mandolin, so I can handle tunings in fifths, but "upside-
down" tunings in fifths is too much of a mind-meld for me to take on a 
routine basis.  When I was shopping around for a "bass with extended range,"
a salesman told me The Stick was the answer to my prayers, but I tried one
for a couple hours, even looked at the "manual" to get some familiarity,
and I gave up. So, folks, how do you and Tony Levin do it?

Second point: In order to play a regular, good ol' one octave major
scale, I needed TWO position shifts to manage it. Granted, I don't
have huge hands, but I get along OK on an upright, so I do have some
range. The manual says that you get extended range from the string
setup at the expense of being able to play melodically (I'll say!). For
me, that's like saying, "Here's a piano, but you have to skip the
black keys." What's the point?

OK, all flames welcome. Actually, I'd like to be convinced that it's 
a bass player's wet dream come true, but so far it's just a wierd
instrument to me. Opinions?


-- 
George Plopper 
Email: plopper@husc8.harvard.edu
"I wish somebody'd tell me what diddy-wah-diddy means."
From: ADCBB@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU (C. Brian Batey)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Good reasonably priced acoustic basses
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:29:40 GMT
Organization: LOUISIANA TECH UNIVERSITY

I've been noticing all the talk about Kay basses, and it leads me to a
question.  If not Kay, then what brands of basses are good for beginner
to intermediate players.  I'm a pretty good electric player who would
like to get into playing the upright bass, but who can't afford to sell
his wife into slavery to get one.  I understand that you get what you
pay for, especially with instruments, but what is a 'starving artist' to do?
I guess my question is, what brands and price ranges for each brand should
I be looking for?  I've seen a brand of plywood bass called Englehart (sp?).
Are these decent basses?  Being that I would perform with the acoustic, I'd
like to have at least a decent tone.
 
yours in confusion
 
brian
adcbb@vm.cc.latech.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: hetz@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Joseph Hetz)
Subject: Beatles' TABs
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:25:51 GMT

	Is there a spot where I can find some Beatle bass TABs???  If anyone
has any, can they either post them here or mail them to me?  Thanks!

					Hetz@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
From: benthin@bcarh739.bnr.ca (Mark Benthin)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: ROCK SCHOOL TAPES ???
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:58:06 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research

In article <WARSAW.92Oct14131149@anthem.nlm.nih.gov>, warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw) writes:
>
>Anybody ever see that old British '80's television show called "Rock
>School"? 
... stuff deleted ...

Speaking of ROCK SCHOOL, does anyone have a collection of the tapes 
that I can get a copy of??? I've been looking for them for a while.

Thanks,

Later -

-- 
                  ::::::::::::::::::D:I:S:C:L:A:I:M:E:R::::::::::::::::::::
                  :::                                                   :::
Mark Benthin      :::  "No, we are not two escaped convicts from a      ::: 
(benthin@bnr.ca)  :::  mental institution - we are in fact two female   ::: 
		  :::  lowwwwwwwwwwwwwwnge singers !!"                  :::
                  :::          - The Kids in the Hall                   :::
                  :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
From: shinh@nmr-z.mgh.harvard.edu (Shinjiro Hirose)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: need advice on used amp ASAP
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:50:09 GMT
Distribution: all
Organization: Mass General Hospital NMR Imaging Center

In article <Bw45nL.Jx8@apollo.hp.com> deal_j@apollo.HP.COM (John Deal) writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.183924.698@daffy.cs.wisc.edu>, jeffr@ssec.wisc.edu (Jeff Ramin) writes:
>|> A local musics store has a used Peavey TKO80 for sale.  I haven't seen it
>|> myself; the salesperson says it's in very good shape.  They want $169 for
>|> it.  It this a decent price or should I be able to talk them down some?
>|> 
>|> I'll be using it to play alternative rock and roll, so the high end
>|> response doesn't concern me much {I've heard that these 15" Peavey's don't
>|> do real well with the higher frequencies}.  It has the standard speaker;
>|> no black widow or anything like that.  I'll be using it for both practice
>|> and playing small clubs.
>|> 
>|> Thanks for any responses.
>
>From my experience from Eastern Ma. this is a very good price from a store if it
>is in good shape.  I got a one year old TKO65 from a store about about 2 years
>ago for $229 in new condition.  I have seen ads for private sales around here
>for TKO65s in the $150-$200 range but I doubt they are in as good a shape as
>the one I got.
>
>You are correct in that in my limited experience the standard Peavey 15s do not
>do much in the high end but are very reliable.  I have not used a TKO80 but I
>beleave it is a bit more powerfull than my TKO65 but basicly the same (it may
>have a graphic EQ which mine does not but I am not sure).


Um, I think John may be mistaken here...
I used to have a TKO 80 and a friend of mine had a TKO 65.  The 80 has 
only 50 watts, no active eq, three passive equ's (low, mid, high)
two inputs, (one is -5db or something), and pregain/gain control.
I wouldn't want to use it for much other than really quiet gigs or
for practicing.  For somereason, Peavey called it the TKO 80 even though
it only puts out 50watts.  I believe the TKO 65 does put out 65 watts
though.

I bought my TKO (about 10 yrs ago...) for $150 at Daddys Junky Music in 
Boston.  I sold it to a friend for $50 a few years ago.  $50 bucks may
be *really* cheap, but I wouldn't pay more than $100 for one like my
old one.


>********
>Opinions of John Deal at deal_j@apollo.hp.com
>********


-Shin
DoD# 0670
-- 
====================================================================

Shin Hirose
shinh@nmr-r.mgh.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass,rec.music.funky
From: ddogan@AFIT.AF.MIL (Darryl Dogan)
Subject: Re: Bootsy Collins
Organization: Air Force Institue of Technology, WPAFB OH
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:20:16 GMT

In article <ddogan.17.718977448@AFIT.AF.MIL> ddogan@AFIT.AF.MIL (Darryl Dogan) writes:
>Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass,rec.music.funky
>Path: blackbird.afit.af.mil!AFIT.AF.MIL!ddogan
>From: ddogan@AFIT.AF.MIL (Darryl Dogan)
>Subject: Re: Bootsy Collins
>Message-ID: <ddogan.17.718977448@AFIT.AF.MIL>
>Sender: news@afit.af.mil
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>References: <92283.134248KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu> <5uBgsB8w165w@bluemoon.rn.com>
>Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 11:57:28 GMT

>In article <5uBgsB8w165w@bluemoon.rn.com> buzzsaw@bluemoon.rn.com (Patrick Buzby) writes:
>>From: buzzsaw@bluemoon.rn.com (Patrick Buzby)
>>Subject: Re: Bootsy Collins
>>Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 19:17:03 EDT

>>Karl Nordstrom <KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>>> Can anyone recomend a CD that shows Bootsy Collins' bass playing at its fines

>>  All of the Bootsy's Rubber Band albums are available as Japanese import 
>>CDs- they all should be good if you can find them.  The only one I have is 
>>Ahh, The Name Is Bootsy Baby, and it is AWESOME.  
>>  Most of the P-Funk albums from the 70's have a few Bootsy performances 
>>mixed in with the work of other bass players.  I've read that the album 
>>Chocolate City (one of the only ones I don't have) has some great Bootsy. 
>>Parliament's Funkentelechy doesn't have Bootsy on it at all, but it's a 
>>great album for funk bass players nonetheless.

>>     Pat Buzby           "Fried ice cream is a reality!"-George Clinton
>>     Grove City, OH      "Music is the best."-Frank Zappa

>  It's "Stretching Out" for me, every time.  IMHO, he put out good albums 
>since then, but to me, none was more satisfying overall.

>  The Parliament cut Pat Buzby referred to in which Bootsy participated was 
>called "Ride On", on the Chocolate City album.  He also appeared on "Be My 
>Beach" on Funkadelic's "Let's Take It To The Stage" (Westbound), in which he 
>does a parody of Jimi Hendrix' stage rap (an in-joke that evolved in the 
>studio and ultimately became part of the personna).

  Speaking of bass players...has anyone seen Graham Central Station on CD?
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: manitp@sage4c.its.rpi.edu (Philip Joseph Manitta Jr.)
Subject: Pick vs. Fingers
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:18:05 GMT

Hey;

For you more experienced folks, aside from tone and comfort, what are the
pros/cons of using a pick vs. fingers??  (I'm aware of some of them)
I'm aware that many excellent bassplayers use one or the other almost
exclusively.  IE- I'Ve never seen Chris Squire use fingers (just pick),
but I've never seen Geddy Lee use a pick (just fingers.) On the other
hand, I've never seen John Pattituci play more than two consecutive songs
without changing technique.   I'm aware that I obviously can't slap
with a pick, but, honestly most of the stuff I like doesn't require it
anyway.  But  lot's of people say I should learn with fingers and
forget about the pick,  What's the opinion out there????

-- 
Philip J. "Ralph" Manitta Jr. (RLF)     _|_       " For me to live is
88 14th st.                              |        Christ, to die is
Troy NY, 12180                           |        gain!"   (manitp@rpi.edu) 
" Don't even think of copying this! The band NEEDS money! " -Fluffy
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: doug@flute.ccit.arizona.edu (Doug Wellington)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Any SVTs out there? What are they worth?
Keywords: Ampeg SVT
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:24:00 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I would like to find an Ampeg SVT.  Anybody got one of these things?

And even if you don't have one, do you know what they are worth?
One person told me $300 to $350, and another told me $500.  I thought
the $500 was high, so I thought I'd see if any of you know...

Thanks alot,
-Doug
doug@flute.ccit.arizona.edu
From: bbs.cement@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Christopher Clement)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Bass 4 Sale
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:47:49 GMT
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238

Honner Fretless for sale. Custom neck, PJ style pick-ups, Baddass Bridge. 
Great for that Jaco tone. Bay area only

Christopher

--
Christopher Clement (bbs.cement@tsoft.sf-bay.org)
From: plopper@husc8.harvard.edu (George Plopper)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: 1929 Kaye pricing
Date: 10 Oct 92 00:41:29 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Oct8.154625.1178@stortek.com> v035550@stortek.com (Steve Monroe) writes:
>>I'm in the market for an upright bass.  A local store has a 1929
>>Kaye (at least that is what the label inside it says...) and he
>>wants $2500 for it.  That seems awful steep, so I thought I'd
>>ask what all you gurus think...
>>
>Gack....pttttttt...$2500 for a KAY? even if it is a
>1929 kay...  Kay basses are (comparatively speaking) junk.  
>No, this is a BAD deal.  Really bad...This would be funny
>if somebody wasn't out there actually trying to sell one of
>these pieces-o-crap for this much...quarter that amount,
>and the price would still be high, but more "reasonable."
>
I'll second that- I bought an older Kaye for $900, then put almost
$1000 into it (new bridge, new endpin, new fingerboard, neck work, etc.)
and it STILL sucked. I sold it back to the guy who sold it to me, with
a nice soft shell case and a Fishman transducer, for $500. Ouch. Don't
go near those basses. I sure learned MY lesson!


-- 
George Plopper 
Email: plopper@husc8.harvard.edu
"I wish somebody'd tell me what diddy-wah-diddy means."
From: jagerm@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Mark Jager)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Please Help
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:39:49 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept

In article <49810001@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com> kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse) writes:
>
>              Please answer these 9 questions and return.
>
>1.) Do you think equal rights for men and women is generally a good idea?
>2.) Are you pro choice?
>3.) Are you in favor of adoption?
>4.) Do you think men should be allowed to legally terminate their parental
>rights and responsibilities before fetal viability?
>5.) What sex are you?
>6.) How old are you?
>7.) What religion are you?
>8.) What political party are you affiliated with?
>9.) How many years of education have you completed?

Please answer the following question:

Why is this posted in alt.guitar.bass?
--------------------------------------
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 09:07:38 EDT
From: Karl Nordstrom <KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Drummer seeks advice from bassists

>>> is an instructor the way to go?
>>> 3) What should I do about eqpt?

How about an instructor that can help you find some used equipment?