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From: jani.patokallio%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Jani Patokallio) 
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: industrial .mod files?
Date: 9 Dec 92 19:39:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: jani.patokallio%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Jani Patokallio) 

In <1full1INN8ba#life.ai.mit.edu>, iczer@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Ted Uhlemann)
writes:
-> Anyone know where (or if) I can get some good industrial/experimental
-> .mod files?  The only ones I've found so far have been typical techno
-> bore...

Industrial MODs are few and far between...  However, I've managed to
locate a couple.  They're all done by the same guy, Alex Kazhdan, the
bass player for a industrialish NYC band called Toadeater.  Anyway, to
get 'em, call these two BBSes:

The Hinterlands: (914) 472-4932 for v.32 9600, (914) 472-4814 for 2400
  Files in file area #9, Sound Files, search for "industrial" in description.

Alex's Place: (914) 668-1807 for HST, (914) 665-5473 for v.32
  Files "TOADMODx.LHA" in Amiga conference file section Music.  (BTW, Alex
  the sysop is not Alex the musician.)

The stuff varies, most of it is "traditional".  Not particularly fast, but
enjoyable to listen to.  THL also has some hard techno.  Say "Erythro sent me"
and you'll get validated quickly.

At the moment there's no way of getting 'em by FTP, sorry...  BTW, 914
is Westchester County in New York.

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From: slp9k@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Ministry's latest album title?
Date: 12 Dec 92 14:31:08 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Dec11.191559.3537@leland.Stanford.EDU>, blckjck@leland.Stanford.EDU (Brett Alexander Cruden) writes:
> In article <u9236635.724098788@oxygen.sys.uea.ac.uk> u9236635@sys.uea.ac.uk (R. Szczesniak) writes:
>>Does anyone know what the literal translation of Ministry's latest album is?
>>You know - the one beginning with KE......
>>
> 
> Supposedly, it means "Psalm 69 - The way to suceed and the way to suck eggs."
> 
> When Al was asked about it, he just said it was important that people knew it
> was "something 69."  (like book 69, psalm 69, chapter 69.)  It's supposed
> to be taken from some ancient obscure arabic language.
> 


	I asked a local ancient languages professor.  The word is pronounced
kaaphalee.  It is ancient Greek meaning "head" in both the terms of "being in
charge" and The body part.

	Didn't we already go over this once?
 
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From: bkeeley@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Brian Keeley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Speaking of William Lee...
Keywords: Burroughs, Gysin, Video, Control, Interzone, Autoerotica
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:02:04 GMT

Since we've been bandying about WSB discogs and what not, does
anybody have info on the following release, apparently by Factory
Records in the UK.  A UK mate found it, and we're trying to find out
more information about what exactly it contains.  The first tape
seems to contain the "classic" Burroughs films.  We haven't a clue
of the second tape. Anybody got a clue?

Reality

******Begin Quoted message ******************

THE FINAL ACADEMY DOCUMENTS (#7.50)

"A two hour package of, firstly, archive film footage of William S Burroughs
and Brian (sic) Gysin, shot by the late Anthony Balchin, including "Ghosts At
Number 9" and the classic film "Towers Open Fire", and secondly, recordings of
the "Final Academy" evening held at The Hacienda, Manchester on the 4th of
October 1982, featuring John Giorno and William S Burroughs."

The early video is titled "1962/3" and the later one "1982".

Got some funny looks copying this off the case in the shop, I suspect many of
the customers at MANIC HEDGEHOG can't write and were jealous! I'm now sort of
itching to know who else was at The Hac that night. It sounds like a good deal
to me but it depends how much you'll have to add for PAL to NTSC. 

...

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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: perraude@irisa.fr (Laurent Perraudeau)
Subject: Re: Beatnigs question
Organization: Irisa, Rennes(FR)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 14:43:13 GMT

In article <00965086.310D66C0@vms.csd.mu.edu>, 2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu (NAME) writes:
|> 
|> Ok...I don't exactly know where to go with this question so R.M.I gets
|> it....
|> 
|> I'm looking for a more or less complete discography for the Beatnigs...
|> They were Michael Franti's (now of The Disposable Heros of Hiphoprisy) last
|> group, I believe...Franti, as the Disposable Heros, did a great version of
|> Television: Drug of a Nation on the first Heros album...and I have the 
|> Beatnigs version on some Alternative Tentacles cd...but I would
|> like to know what else the Beatnigs did...
|> 
|> Also if any of their stuff is on cd, please note cuz I can't seem to find
|> their stuff anywhere...*sigh*
|> 
|> 
|> Thanx.
|> 
|> Later
|> -justin

I have two records from THE BEATNIGS :

Television 	12"  	1988 Alternative Tentacles
The Beatnigs	Lp	1988 Alternative Tentacles (also on CD)



Lp


Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,rec.music.makers,rec.music.classical
From: dkletter@adobe.com (SUGAR in their vitamins?)
Subject: Re: Russolo's Noise Machines
Organization: Flying Esophagus Productions
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 07:38:08 GMT

In article <Bz8uB0.MDu@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell) writes:
>It seems to me that about five, maybe six years ago, there was an LP of
>"Futurist Music" that was released which contained a recording of the 
>78 rpm record sides that comprised the sum of all of Russolo's recorded
>output; this would be on an UK import label, although I do not remember
>which one (it was one of the ones specializing in industrial/noise music
>however). If you can find that LP, you'd be well-rewarded for your search
>by getting what probably is the only reissue of those tracks.

actually, there is a compilation CD out on the SUB ROSA label (catalog
number SUBCD012-19) called FUTURISM & DADA REVIEWED which includes
"original recordings" by lots of folks including 3 pieces by Russolo.
the booklet has some short writeups of each of the artists. this
comp shouldn't be too hard to find at any local Tower Records.

hasta.

-- 
Yes.  Beautiful, wonderful nature.  Hear it sing to us: *snap*  Yes.  natURE.
From: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: What a joke
Date: 17 Dec 92 12:25:09 GMT
Reply-To: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Organization: The University Of Edinburgh - Department Of Computer Science

And lo, scupin@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (SCUPIN  JONATHAN RAYMOND) spake unto the masses saying:

> Bill Leeb, on the other hand, uses many different types of effects
> while singing, but he's desperately trying to Imitate Ogre and others.
> That, and he can't come up with a decent lyric(that I've heard, at least)

Awww, that's a bit hard on poor 'ole Bill, isn't it? True, if you look at
some of the material compiled on _Convergence_ he *does* seem to be trying
rather hard to sound like Ogre (although, to give him credit, he does show
some flexibility in that he also tries to sound like Stephen Mallinder on
the CV soundalike tracks) but he's getting better. These days I wouldn't
say he's trying to sound particularly like anyone else, he's just Yet
Another Distorted/Shouted Vocalist. Not particularly derivative of anyone
else, just not particularly original either.

As for the lyrics, well, yes, you won't find me disagreeing there. As Ben
has pointed out elsewhere, some of the lyrics from _TNI_ are a direct steal
from ClockDVA. I don't think it's any coincidence that my favourite
Leeb/Fulber (or Leeb/Balch) material tends to be the instrumental stuff.
The Leeb/Fulber approach to music (or more specifically, to *releasing*
music) seems both an advantage and a handicap though.

On one hand, the sheer *volume* of what they release means that if you like
their music there's always something new to buy. This year we've had, umm,
one Delerium album, two Intermix albums (and a 12" single), an FLA album
(plus a single and an EP), a new Will EP, a new Noise Unit album and
various compilation contributions. Not bad going. However, I think their
tendency to release the different styles of music under different names (*)
is in some ways a bad move since in an effort to pad out each release they
must include almost *everything* they write, even if it's Not Very Good. I
think Leeb's reputation as derivative and not particularly good stems from
this - if he and Rhys were to take, say, the best tracks from each of this
years releases the resulting album would be very good indeed.

There was a point to this post at some stage but I seem to have forgotten
it.

(*) Although given what I've heard of the new Noise Unit, the gap between
FLA and Noise Unit is now so small as to be nonexistent.

-- 
			Al Crawford - awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk
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	     Tel: +44 (0) 31 650 5165  Fax: +44 (0) 31 667 7209
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: KCSCHIE@vm.cmp.ilstu.edu
Subject: Re: NIN's Fixed- (Found it)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 08:30:03 EDT
Organization: Illinois State University

The search is over.
I found the disc at a Musicland store at one of the local malls.
I was quite surprised not to find it at some of the downtown
college music stores. I checked all the record stores in town in
both the stacks and singles.Musicland had it with the singles for
$6.99... right between New Kids and Nirvana.
Thanks to all for the advice.
I'm glad I didn't have to drive all the way to Phily!
 
Kyle C Schiebel
From: dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless)
Subject: Re: Record Speeds (was Re: What a joke)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 16 Dec 92 02:08:26 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.030014.27378@netcom.com> howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey) writes:
>In article <ben.724212806@ipoint> thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox) writes:
>>howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey) writes:
>>
>>>well, maybe on 33 rpm instead of 45....
>>
>The DJ at the club I used to go to when I was 17 used to play "I Love
>You" by Yello at 33 instead of 45.  It's really really cool at that
>speed.  It got me addicted to trying it whenever I bought a 45 rpm
>single.  Unfortunately, most songs don't work out that well.

	Try playing the 12" for "Oh Yeah", at 45 and the guy's voice sounds 
like a completely normal speaking voice.  Apparently the slow-down is exactly
equal to a 45 -> 33 speed change.

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From: DICKENJD@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Orpheus)
Subject: Re: DVA
Organization: Fuzzy Logic Laboratories
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:04:21 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.21

In <1992Dec13.214650.28458@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu writes:

> I've heard the name around; more lately.
> Are they dancy industrial ala Skinny Puppy or "true" industrial?
> Someone make a comparison before someone  else flames my above choice of
> adjectives....
> 
> -Lupo
> 

	They are really neither. Try..... 'minimalist electronic music bordering
on the dancy, but experimental enough to make you think twice about it'. :)
They are more atmospheric that the typical EBM artists, but not so much where
they can be labeled as being 'ambient'....



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From: jlitchfi@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Jon Litchfield)
Subject: Re: Record Speeds (was Re: What a joke)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 06:08:05 GMT

In article <Bz6Frp.J83@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell) writes:
>In article <ben.724212806@ipoint> thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox) writes:
>>howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey) writes:
>>
>>>well, maybe on 33 rpm instead of 45....
>>
>>The first time I hear the Severed Heads "All Saints Day" it was the
>>12" single on 33rpm.  Yow!  I wish my CD player could do that.  Or the
>>CD version should contain both normal and slowed-down mixes of the
>>song...
>
>Got another one for you, Ben: Sisters of Mercy's "Phantom" at 33 instead of
>45. The original speed gives you a semi-monotonous thrashy thing, but
>slowed down...hmm...trance territory...the guitars turn into weird drony
>sounds, and the drums hit just that _right_ speed...
>
A friend of mine spent a year listening to SP's "Remission" on 33 instead of
45. I listened to a tape of it one day...whoa. REALLY weird, and really 
interesting. If anyone has a vinyl copy of it, I highly recommend playing it
at 33 once in a while.
>
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: DICKENJD@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Orpheus)
Subject: Re: Coil _Horse_Rotorvator_
Organization: Fuzzy Logic Laboratories
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 05:39:11 GMT
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In <ByywnK.r9@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu writes:

> 
> Okie, got 'er right here. Your mystery Coil album is "Scatology", and it's
> really excellent! Titles are (get your pen ready)...
> I dunno which track has the baby in it as it's been a little while since I've
> listened to this LP. It's one of those one's you just have to be in the 
> right mood for, at least in my case. Some of these tracks are downright
> creepy...should've been in the "Halloween Music" rundown we had on here
> 
> Well, just in case you need the info, the catalog number on my copy is
> K.422 records, number FFK1. That's the UK import copy, btw.
> >
> >   Sean LeBlanc
	This is the original Force and Form LP, which, as far as I understand,
is long out of print....... Note that on the CD re-release, you have a 
different track listing.
> 
> D.A.C. Crowell
> Computer Music Project/School of Music
> University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
> (dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu)
> 
> 

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From: plong@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Coil: Stolen And Contaminated Songs
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:05:50 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

After THREE failed attempts to followup the original request, here is my
fourth and final attempt to give the track listing to Coil's _Stolen_And
_Contaminated_Songs_:

As It Really Is
Chaos
Who'll Tell
Exploding Frogs
In the Lost Kingdom
Love's Secret Domain (Demo)
Nasa -- Arab (Live)
Who'll Fall
Original Scot Song
Wrim-Wram-Wrom
Oboe Cop
Her Friends the Wolves
Dark Nova

Enjoy!!

Steve
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: wolfie@netcom.com (Cinnamon DeWolf)
Subject: NIN "Fixed"
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:20:09 GMT


Okay, question all. I've had "Fixed" for about a week now, and absolutely love
it. (My roomaes are getting tired of rushing into the room, screaming, when
I play track six, each one of them owning a different part of the stereo and 
each thinking I'm destroying their portion of it with all the screeching and
yowling.) I would love to figure out two things though.

I believe it's track 5 thats has the happy-shiny sample with the woman talking.
I canNOT for the LIFE of me figure out what that whole sample is, and I can't
figure out where it's from! I've dragged everyone into the room to listen to
it and no one recognizes it. (I THINK it's track five. Maybe 4?)

Also, the sample of the guy yelling to let him out, on track 3. Anyone recognize
that one?

Thanks in advance. 

Hey Yiffy. I know you're reading this.

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From: lmn52210@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ramona)
Subject: Re: Opinions
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 00:52:14 GMT

For Front Line, it depends what kind of industrial you're 
looking for, either closer to the original thing, or more
the pounding, layered danceable stuff.  They kind of did
a KMFDM kind of thing where they started out under my 
previous description and went into the latter.     


				      Ramona
From: fiddick@condor.ucsb.edu (Laurence Fiddick;)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Suggestions?
Date: 18 Dec 92 08:50:46 GMT
Distribution: rec.music.industrial

also check out nww's 'brained by falling masonry' which features foetus
on vocals
From: markp@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Mark A. Pitcher)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: What a joke
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 21:29:24 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: darkpark


	This:

> Best voice:  Bjork from the Sugarcubes.

	Automatically disqualifies you to say this:
 
> Ogre?  Best voice?  Oh please.  My cat could do better.
> How many of you have heard Ogre's undistorted singing voice?
> Ninety percent of what you hear when listening to Ogre is a direct
> result of signal modification...not talent.  Why do you think vocalists
> like Ogre use distortion consistently?  Hmmm...it might have something
> to do with a last ditch effort to make their voices the least bit
> interesting.


 
> If you can tell Ogre's voice apart from Sasha Konietzko's or Bill
> Leeb's, you can probably hear my fingers hitting the keys as I type this.

	Are you typing with a sledgehammer? You're hurting my ears, dork.




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From: deanc@ex.heurikon.com (Dean Cheney)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Films with Insanity
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:46:13 GMT
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI


In article <9212071830@ltrnativ.UUCP> adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP (Adam Mottershead) writes:
>
>Some movies I have been thinking of using are Apocalypse Now, Silence of
>The Lambs, and One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest.
>



   How 'bout the scene in Texas Chainsaw Massacre wherein
   the hitchhiker starts cutting himself (in the hand?)
   with a knife, while the family in the van realizes 
   that this guy's marbles haven't been seen in a 
   loooooonnng time.





ttyl, bete noire.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: blckjck@leland.Stanford.EDU (Brett Alexander Cruden)
Subject: Re: Ministry's latest album title?
Keywords: Ministry
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 19:15:59 GMT

In article <u9236635.724098788@oxygen.sys.uea.ac.uk> u9236635@sys.uea.ac.uk (R. Szczesniak) writes:
>Does anyone know what the literal translation of Ministry's latest album is?
>You know - the one beginning with KE......
>

Supposedly, it means "Psalm 69 - The way to suceed and the way to suck eggs."

When Al was asked about it, he just said it was important that people knew it
was "something 69."  (like book 69, psalm 69, chapter 69.)  It's supposed
to be taken from some ancient obscure arabic language.


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From: saeed@watson.ibm.com (Saeed Jaffer)
Subject: Re: NIN's Fixed- where is it?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:45:09 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

Kyle writes:

|> is anybody else having trouble finding it? I've
|> been to most of the music stores in town and nobody's got it.

Yeah, I can't find it either!!  This is killing me!
For those of you in the NYC area (tri-state), where have you found it?
What stores are carrying NIN's _Fixed_?  I've tried a bunch of places,
including big names like Tower and HMV.  I don't mind driving to get this, as
long as it's relatively reasonable.  

|> kyle c schiebel

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From: 2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu (NAME)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Nurse with wound for sale
Date: 13 Dec 1992 00:09:53 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu


Howdy folks...

I have recently come by a copy of the 3rd Nurse with Wound Lp and need
to turn it around and sell it...The cover is a gray line drawing and I 
can't seem to find the title on it...hmm...

Anyway...the disc is in mint shape and the sleeve is very good (slightly 
worn from age)...it is number 352 of 500.

Here's the kicker...the local industrial/underground/indie record store
owner wants it...(and wants it bad)...he has offered $175 for it...I know
he does not collect this stuff and I believe he is intending to turn around
and sell it for over $225...

I happen to really dislike this guy...but I need the cash...so I thought I
would offer the album to net collectors first...I would like to get at least
what he offered (but I don't expect a whole lot of responses save from true
collectors)...

So please...if you have a serious offer of better than $175 take the time 
to respond...If you have any questions..I will answer them...sorry the 
post was a little vague, but I will not be near the album (at my home)
for several days..but I wanted to get the post up...

Please E-MAIL...and of course, serious replies only please.


Later
-justin
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