HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: achauhan@warsaw.math.macalstr.edu (Amrit Chauhan)
Subject: Re: RESULT: comp.sys.apple2.gno passes 207:30
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:42:18 GMT

Kim Brennan writes
> 
> Sigh. I see we're not on the same page. I'm not reading this from USENET. I'm
> not on INET either. This newsgroup is echoed to me through the ProLine
> interface to INET. When I post a message to comp.sys.apple2 I send it to
> apple.com. What I'm asking, which you did not answer is where I should be
> routing the posts for comp.sys.apple2.gno?

What you can do is write to bblue@crash.cts.com and see if he can help you get  
this newsgroup.  If not, write to gsnow@pro-freedom.cts.com and ask him for the  
berkely address from which to send replies to a newsgroup...I used to do this  
because crash didn't have aliases for all the groups.

I don't know about getting the group, but you'll probably want to ask bblue  
since crash handles the proline gateway for over 90% of the sites.

Good luck.

Amrit

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From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: PRODOS and BASIC(.SYSTEM) source code
Keywords: source code Prodos basic doc documentation
Date: 15 Oct 92 04:33:16 GMT

Yow!  Uh, no... those are copyrighted works of Apple Computer, Inc.  And
we all know how ticked off Apple Corporate gets when people so much as
_think_ about passing around source code to their products.

However, check out back issues of Nibble (and I'm talking _way_ back, like
1985-87).  Sandy Mossberg disassembled BASIC.SYSTEM 1.0 and 1.1.
Different, but not excessively so.  You can work with that.

If you need valid (legal) entry points and table documentation, get
Beneath Apple ProDOS and/or the ProDOS 8 Technical Reference.

If you need invalid (illegal and easily-broken) entry points, please don't
publicly release software that uses them.  I don't like software that
breaks with future system software.  Thanks! :)

- Eric S.

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From: aa783@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Spaeth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: a "Pointless" program idea
Date: 12 Oct 1992 20:04:55 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa783@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Spaeth)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd) says:

>Pointless already does this!  There's a button at the bottom of the
>Control Panel's window called "Save Bitmap" or some such.  Use that.
>
>- Eric S.

But the point is NOT to have to do so for every one of my 90-some fonts!
From: deviant@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: RavenFORTH, where?
Date: 11 Oct 92 02:09:39 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana


Does anyone out there know where I can find RavenForth for the GS?  I'm 
using GS16Forth II right now but since the author of RavenFORTH wrote a 
cda to edit forth screens, then maybe I should check his Forth out as well.

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From: fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: multi-tasker/switcher...
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:41:43 PST
Organization: BBS

Whoops!!!!!  I got MultiMaster from pindarus.cs.uiuc.edu, not from
cco.caltech.edu...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: joko@WELL.SF.CA.US (Joe Kohn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re:  BostonFest News?
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:30:04 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
From: sbennett@gnh-starport.cts.com (Stephen Bennett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: has tr been ported by anybody?
Date: 10 Oct 92 20:25:58 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Sat Oct 10 92 at 01:50:34 (EDT)

viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:

>        BTW: Proterm 2.2's editor used to allow the replacing of
> control characters by finding a ctrl-P+character, but 3.0 doesn't
> have this feature.  I looked it over for about ten minutes the
> other day, and it looks like the whole editor has been gutted.
> Pity -- the 2.2 editor was pretty powerful once you got used to it.
 
<sigh>  It's a shame that Greg changed the user interface so much from
PT2.x to ProTERM 3.0, but most of the functionality is still there...
just in a different form...  it's just harder to figure out in the first
place (and I, like so many others *hate* to read the manual, though in
this case, it seems necessary, especially with no list of commands in
the editor in PT3!)
 
In the editor, in PT3, one must type a carat/letter combination, such
as "^M" for RETURN (minus the quotes, of course)...  If you look through
the manual, you'll find other little things like this...  it's a pain
getting used to all the new commands, but I guess it's to help prevent
piracy (harder to use the commands if you don't have a manual to know them)
 
Still, it's a shame to keep changing the "standard", especially since there
have been other editors that ran with the older ProTERM control keystrokes...
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From: gudat@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (gudat henrik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: ...
Date: 10 Oct 92 09:23:14 GMT
Organization: Informatik Club d. Universitaet, Zuerich


 
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From: shrinkit@Apple.COM (Andrew Nicholas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GSHK v1.1 on comp.binaries
Keywords: shrinkit
Date: 13 Oct 92 01:31:25 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <5gDJsB1w165w@bluemoon.rn.com> t_captain@bluemoon.rn.com (Tc Wilson) writes:

>> I have uploaded GSHK v1.1 to comp.binaries.apple2.  It should appear at a
>> site near you very soon.  I'll see what I can do about getting it put on
>> ftp.apple.com.

GSHK v1.1 is available for ftp from ftp.apple.com:

/ftp/dts/utils/a2gs-shrinkit11.bsc

andy

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From: swh54716@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott W. Henson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: To Whoever Had Extra Transwarp GS Cables
Summary: Need a replacement cable.
Keywords: transwarp gs applied engineering
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:31:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw68Ky.6zz
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Unfortunately, I cannot seem to find the messge that was posted on this group
by someone who had three extra TWGS cables.  These were offered "first come
first served" to anyone for the cost of shipping.

Would whoever posted that please either re-post it, or send me a message via
e-mail.  I would like to have one of your extra cables, and need to know where
you are located and in what form you would like payment for shipping.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Accelerators (was: Re: Resurrection!!!!!)
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 09:18:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.043011.5380@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dratzlaf@nyx.cs.du.edu (Norby) writes:
> 
> So am I to understand that an 8 MHz Zip chip will not work with a
> No-Slot-Clock???  This would be very bad, as I already have an NSC in my
> //c and have just bought a Zip that is shipping right now!
> 
> Please tell me it aint so!

In a IIc?  Sorry - you're out of luck.  If the No Slot Clock is under
the motherboard ROM, the ZIP/NSC combination will cause the NSC to
stop working (at best) or the computer to crash continuously (at worst).

In a IIe, you have the option of placing the No Slot Clock under a ROM
on a card in one of the slots, which is not cached by the ZIP, hence
no problem arises.

There are no slots on a IIc, so no alternative position for the No
Slot Clock.
-- 
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From: sbennett@gnh-starport.cts.com (Stephen Bennett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Where can I buy a 19 pin "D" connector?
Date: 10 Oct 92 20:25:44 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Sat Oct 10 92 at 01:30:15 (EDT)

dratzlaf@cs.du.edu (Norby) writes:

> along almost these same lines, does anyone know of a DB-19 switchbox?
> I have a hard drive which connects to the smartport of my //c, and a
> Unidisk 3.5.  They will not operate together in the same chain, however.
> 
> At present I need to reach back and swap cables if I need to change drives.
> A switchbox would be very convenient and could reduce wear on my
> connectors.  I guess I might be able to build one, but it seems like too
> much headache for me right now.

Try Black Box Corp.  Sorry, I don't have their catalog here right now, but if
you call the 800 directory assistance, they should be able to give you the
number, and then you can either get the catalog, or order direct, and get the
catalog with your order...  Black Box has the best selection of switch boxes
anywhere that I'm aware of...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy)
Subject: Re: Orca/C Linker Problems?!?!
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 00:17:39 GMT

In article <uerics.718754775@mcl> uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd) writes:
>Um.  I didn't notice any curses in _my_ copy of GNO.  It _does_ support
>termcap though.
>
>Did I just miss curses in there, then?

Yeah, you did.  Jawaid will no doubt tell you more :)


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz)
Subject: Re: GSHK v1.1 on comp.binaries
Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:45:18 GMT

In article <mattd-121092170420@city-lights.apple.com> mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage) writes:
>In article <5gDJsB1w165w@bluemoon.rn.com>, t_captain@bluemoon.rn.com (Tc
>Wilson) wrote:
>> 
>> Well, I had problems with the .SEA file refusing to run (kept stopping 
>> right at the launch with "error $1104" [can't find segment, I think]). 

>
>This is as good a place as any to alert folks to this:
>
>IF YOU FIND A SELF-EXTRACTING ARCHIVE IN BINSCII FORMAT, DO NOT UNBINSCII
>IT BEFORE MOVING IT TO AN APPLE II.
>
>Several people ran something like sciibin to turn the SEA back into a
>binary file on their internet boxes, and then used XMODEM or YMODEM to
>move the self-extracting archive to a IIgs.  It turns out that if you
>do this, XMODEM or YMODEM pads the file to a 128-byte boundary.  The
>System Loader then sees the garbage at the end of the file as "not a
>load segment" (which, of course, it isn't) and complains that something's
>wrong.
>

>Matt Deatherage, Developer Support Center, Apple Computer, Inc.

Matt,

I downloaded the binscii'd segments to my GS; un'binscii'd w/ GSCII+;
and tried to open the SEA. I also got the $1104 error.  Could it be
that something more general is going on here? (I mean other than the
"un-binscii on a unix box problem").


Paul Schultz
schultp@wl.com

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From: chandran@comp.lancs.ac.uk (M. Ramchandran)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Problem with  PC Exchange
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:08:05 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

I was trying to use PC exchange for Word for Window but Mac doesn't recognize
it as WDSN which is meant for PC word for window as word4 doc. It reads
it as a text file and I am getting funny chars. What is the use fo PC exchange.
I thought i could carry out my report at home with my Mac? Any help.

chandran
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: petroski@mwunix.mitre.org (Frank Petroski)
Subject: has tr been ported by anybody?
Summary: yes, it has
Keywords: tr
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:54:18 GMT

I ported over a PD version of an "improved" tr from the MSDOS world that 
works fine.  Unfortunately, ORCA shell 2.0 does not handle the "\" character
correctly, so you can't form the kinds of command lines you'd like to have
to translate "\n"s into "\r"s.  If theres interest, I'll go ahead and post it
anyway.
From: derek@slab.slip.uiuc.edu (Derek Taubert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: ShrinkIt GS 1.1 (cont.)
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:44:04 GMT
Reply-To: dat33228@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Organization: Damage Inc.

In article <bazyar.718911834@teal> bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)  
writes:
> David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
> >This problem only applies to SSCII.  The archive was the correct length
> >when extracted with GSCII+ (the NDA) or BINSCII (the ProDOS-8
> >application).

Um, I seriously doubt that.  They both use the exact same code (I don't just mean same C code, I mean same object code in the link).

> >Derek Taubert, where are you?  Fix this problem in SSCII, please!!!
> >I'm running version 2.3 - March 1992.

I'm right here.  I've been watching you all along.  :)

>   SScii is correct.  It appears that the method Andy used to get the
> file to comp.binaries.apple2 rounded the file up to the next block
> size.  Binscii/SScii both correctly maintain a file's EOF.
>   Ian Schmidt had this same problem (of the cba2 file being too long),
> and he sciibin'd it on his Unix box.

Because BINSCII uses a Prodos8 Info block as the header of each segment, I have to convert certain things in it to certain other things for GS/OS calls.

1) SetFileInfo doesn't have a field that corresponds to the length of the file, there is a separate call SetEOF (which I don't call every time I do a SetFileInfo, read on).
2) If the length of the last segment does not include the padding (this is correct), the resulting file will end up being the correct length.  I suspect that SciiBin doesn't calculate this correctly (it adds in the padding), and this is what is causing your problem.

So, I'll see about changing GScii+ to work with this broken BINSCIIer...  I'll end up making a SetEOF call along with the SetFileInfo.  How exactly is this larger-than-supposed-to-be filesize causing problems?  Oh, yea, partial header for an extra segment...

Derek
From: larry@lablues.UUCP (Lawrance A. Schneider)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: no-slot and Zip
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 03:39:44 EDT
Organization: L/A Blues BBS - Auburn ME (207) 777-3465 & 7782

Dave,

While I agree with your analysis, I had a no-slot-clock and a zip[ in my 
IIc and IIe.  Worked fine; I've not looked at the nsc, but maybe there 
softswitches within that need to be trigered to turn it on and that is 
why it never gave me trouble????                Larry

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: t_captain@bluemoon.rn.com (Tc Wilson)
Subject: Re: MODZap fiasco?
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 21:00:07 EDT


I agree with your comments - if I went and dropped Metal every time 
someone said "it stinks" (or something stronger), then it would never have 
gotten done. However, whenever someone said "Metal is slow, Metal is this, 
Metal is that, bla bla bla", I took a hard look at what I was doing to see 
if they were right - if so, then I changed something or worked on the 
program. If not, well, to heck with them! I program for myself (as most of 
us do).

Ian, give it a break. If you want to say "I've got MegaTracker, you 
don't", go ahead - but expect the rest of us to dump on you. I can say "I 
have MetalGS and you don't" - true, but MGS is a piece of junk I refuse to 
show to even to my wife.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: david@cs.uow.edu.au (David E A Wilson)
Subject: Re: Jog My Memory....
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 03:39:41 GMT

jamieyn@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Jamie P Yoon) writes:
>Funny, because I asked a couple of IBM dealers whether 9 X SIMM chips
>would work on a Mac (read IIgs - which 'doesnt exist' here). The general
>consensus was that it DIDNT. Hmmm. All agreed that the other chip was
>for parity checking, as Dave mentioned previously.
>Could someone please verify whether they do or they don't work. Believe
>it or not, these 1 X 9 Simms are actually CHEAPER than the 1 X 8 Simms.

Well, here are the pinouts for 8 & 9 bit 256KB & 1MB SIMMs (from NEC Memory
Products 1989 data book).

Pin	MC-41256A8B	MC-41256A9B	MC-421000A8	MC-421000A9
1	Vcc		Vcc		Vcc		Vcc
2	CAS'		CAS'		CAS'		CAS'
3	I/O 1		I/O 1		I/O 1		I/O 1
4	A0		A0		A0		A0
5	A1		A1		A1		A1
6	I/O 2		I/O 2		I/O 2		I/O 2
7	A2		A2		A2		A2
8	A3		A3		A3		A3
9	GND		GND		GND		GND
10	I/O 3		I/O 3		I/O 3		I/O 3
11	A4		A4		A4		A4
12	A5		A5		A5		A5
13	I/O 4		I/O 4		I/O 4		I/O 4
14	A6		A6		A6		A6
15	A7		A7		A7		A7
16	I/O 5		I/O 5		I/O 5		I/O 5
17	A8		A8		A8		A8
18	NC		NC		A9		A9
19	NC		NC		NC		NC
20	I/O 6		I/O 6		I/O 6		I/O 6
21	WE'		WE'		WE'		WE'
22	GND		GND		GND		GND
23	I/O 7		I/O 7		I/O 7		I/O 7
24	NC		NC		NC		NC
25	I/O 8		I/O 8		I/O 8		I/O 8
26	NC		Dout 9		NC		Dout 9
27	RAS'		RAS'		RAS'		RAS'
28	NC		CAS9'		NC		CAS9'
29	NC		Din 9		NC		Din 9
30	Vcc		Vcc		Vcc		Vcc

As you can see, the only difference between the 8 & 9 bit SIMMs are pins
26,28 & 29. The extra parity chip shares the Address, power and RAS' lines
while having its own CAS' and separate Data In & Out lines. Provided the
extra RAM chip can survive having its CAS', Din & Dout lines left open
circuit the 9 bit SIMM should work.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: werdna@iastate.edu (Andrew J Albinger)
Subject: Help with gif
Summary: read it
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:29:23 GMT

I am using a vax system at isu where there are a lot of cool gif's stored.
Does anyone know an easy way to view gif files on the gs?  (I can get these files into ascii code) Please email me if you know how to do this.  thanx.

			werdna@iastate.edu
			Andrew Albinger
From: lchavas@CSD4.CSD.UWM.EDU (Linda Catherine Havas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: That GS Thing...
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:13:55 GMT

I've heard lots in the past about the GS keyboard and how it's
so temperamental. Is one of its problems an intermittent shifting
from upper to lower case letters? The reason I ask is that the
used GS I"m thinking of buying does just that. How much does
it cost to fix this rather annoying quirk? ANY help would be welcome.

Linda Havas          --------------->  lchavas@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: "Volker Herrmann" <CD46@DKAUNI2.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Apple ][ Emulator?
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:43:06 GMT




> I am wondering if there are emulators out there for the MS/DOS computer
> which I can use to run Apple // DOS 3.3 and/or ProDOS programs?
DOS 3.3 only
> If there is such a thing, is it any good?  Where might it be available?
Try wuarchive.wustl.edu  /mirrors/msdos/emulators/apple2em.zip
Volker
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Bridge Game?
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:07:03 GMT

Is there a bridge game available for the GS? Commercial, shareware, free,...
 
Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
From: gleparc@pro-scat.cts.com (German Leparc)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Modzap quits????????
Date: 11 Oct 92 20:55:04 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ProLine [pro-scat] St. Petersburg, Florida.

In <TRkcsB2w165w@cyberden.uucp> moon!cyberden!gasman@well.sf.ca.us writes:

>WHAT THE HECK! Dont stop developing Modzap! OK, guys, admit it: 
>SONIQTRACKER #$^%s up ALOT more times than modzap! C'mon! I have both and 
>MODZAP WHIPS BUTT!
>There. I said it. Now _I_ am going to get 20 people saying I am wrong!
>Later,
>        Gasman
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>   |       /         |\
>   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N       [ moon!cyberden!gasman@well.sf.ca.us ]


 I agree... ModZAP is the best. SoniqTracker is nice, but it can't handle
some effects that MODZap can. I always get "Unknown Effect!"... and even
if it "knows" the effect, it doesn't come out as good as it does on ModZap.
I have an Amiga 500, and I can tell how a MOD is supposed to sound...
 
                                    --Mr.Cool--