From: kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy)
Subject: Re: Clarifying "Restrictions"
Keywords: You expect me to mark my deletions?  Dream on... 
Organization: Who, me???
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 06:43:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.020223.1283@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran) writes:
>In article <1992Dec26.232007.13372@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec25.195604.13432@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran) writes:
>>>In article <1992Dec19.081855.14741@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
>>>>In article <1992Dec18.165413.8758@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran) writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>Kebbin is just mad because we live in the Real World (tm) and not in
>>>>>some Darcian fantasy in which it is more dangerous to terminate a
>>>>>pregnancy then to carry the fetus to term. 
>>>>
>>>>Learn the difference between a hypothetical question and a fantasy, ignoramus.
>>>
>>>"Kevin Darcy is a genius".  Hypothetical question or fantasy?  You be the
>>>judge.
>>
>>It's not even a question, so how can it be a hypothetical question?
>
>Learn how quotes[sic] and periods[sic] are used in the American language,
>ignoramus.

Is it your contention that the words "Kevin Darcy is a genius" accompanied by
the double quotes shown, and followed by a period, forms a question?

>>>>>Considering his tendancy to
>>>>>argue both sides of any given question, I'd say he is the one who
>>>>>needs to be concerned with moral inconsistancy.
>>>>
>>>>Arguing a position and believing it aren't necessarily the same thing, schmuck.
>>>
>>>You know, Kevin, I'm beginning to believe that you're a Cochran-phobe.  
>>
>>You know, Keith, this is one of the stupidest things I've ever read on the
>>Net. Your blood relationship with the other moron has nothing to do with my 
>>penchant for refuting the arguments of weak-minded sophists everywhere.
>
>You hae a penhant[sic] for refuting[sic] arguments[sic]?  Was I asleep when
>this happened?

No, just in your usual confused daze, probably.

>>I'll also note that, not once, in all the long battles my brother and I
>>waged in alt.flame, and all of the times we had a common enemy, did either of
>>us ever accuse anyone of being a "Darcy-phobe".
>
>Ah, so that idocy that you spewed onto the net for months claiming that I was
>a homophobe was just hot air...

Relevance?

>>But then, we never got as close to desperate as you apparently have, either...
>
>Like claiming that a victim of sexual child abuse was a child molester?

I didn't know the victim was a victim when I made my post, Keith, and I have
apologized for the mistake. Don't you feel a little low constantly dredging
up something that's been apologized for, and potentially causing the very 
"victim" you think you're helping to relive their nightmare?

I suggest the subject be dropped. I suggest that the whole flamewar shouldn't
have occurred in the first place, actually, but I'm willing to just put it
to rest from this point forward.

>>>>>I'm still waiting for your real life example to validate your question
>>>>>Kebbin...
>>>>
>>>>Can you guarantee me that there is no possible or foreseeable combination of 
>>>>medical factors which could make termination of pregnancy more dangerous
>>>>than carrying to term? Are you willing to put whatever medical credentials
>>>>you possess on the line over this question? I _do_ have some contacts at
>>>>the UofM Medical Center (largest medical complex in the world, perhaps 
>>>>you've heard of it?), which is a couple of miles down the road from me.
>>>>I _can_ check this out, if necessary, and if you've been propagating bogus
>>>>medical information on the Net... well... 
>>>
>>>Kebbin brags, evades the question, and then makes yet another veiled threat
>>>against a person named Cochran.
>>
>>Brags? Threatens? What an active imagination you have there, Keith 
>
>"I _do_ have some contacts..."  "I _can_ check this out..."  "...and if you've
>been propaating bogus medical information on the Net... well..."

So, where are the brags or threats? Is Mark Whatshisname such a sensitive
milquetoast that he felt intimidated or threatened by that?

>>Whatsyername. I was just letting Mark Whatshisname know that he couldn't just
>>blabber medical half-facts and non-facts, and expect them to go unchecked.
>>
>>>This is turning into your "it's not legal in every state to use lethal force
>>>to stop a rape" thing, isn't it?  Why don't you stop waffling, and just 
>>>give us a situation (hypothetical or not) where ending a pregnancy is more
>>>dangerous to the woman than continuing it?
>>
>>A 28-week pregnant woman, without any discernible medical complications,
>>announces her wish to end her pregnancy by having her fetus sucked out through 
>>her spine, heart and cerebellum. Should she be allowed to abort in this 
>>manner? 
>
>Kindly provide the name of any medical doctor qualified to perform abortions
>who would perform an abortion in this manner under any circumstance, and I'll
>get back to you...

You are adding stipulations that weren't contained in the original question, 
Keith.  Backpedal. Squirm. Whassamatter? Can't you answer it as is?

								- Kevin