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From: dascoser@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (david serchay)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Edward Albert question...
Date: 25 Jan 93 06:43:41 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

det@phlan.sw.stratus.com (David Toland) writes:

> In article <93018.135246DCS4@psuvm.psu.edu> <DCS4@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> >The Edward Albert (sp?) actor who appears as a Bajoran in the
> >current episode of Deep Space Nine...
> >Didn't he have a recurring role on "Beauty and the Beast?" ...
> 
> Yes, and he also had a role on the nighttime soap (thankfully extinct)
> "Falcon Crest" (don't flame me, my *wife* was the one who watched it!).
> 
> >and is he any relation (son maybe?) of the Eddie Albert,
> >a rather accomplished actor who will (unfortunately) probably
> >be best remembered for his character on "Green Acres?"
> 
> Yes, he is indeed the son of Eddie Albert, who will also be well
> remembered for the series "Switch", which costarred Robert Wagner
> and also brought Sharon Gless to the public's attention.
> 
> -- 
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> All opinions are MINE MINE MINE, and not necessarily anyone else's.
> det@phlan.sw.stratus.com   |  "Laddie, you'll be needin' something to wash
>                            |  that doon with."

If this is the same Edward Albert who is on BATB, why was his name given 
with the middle name. I think it's someone else, also named Edward Albert 
who has to use his middle name because of SAG rules. The BATB Edward 
Albert has the SAG "right" to the name

Dascoser
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Re: Top 20 list and then some.....
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:43:08 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <C17p4o.CnC@lut.fi> herd@cc.lut.fi (Markku Herd) writes:
>kirkm@hotcity.COM (Kirk Marcroft) writes:
>
>> 
>>  
>>                  **20 Things That Never Happen In Star Trek**
>>                    ----------------------------------------
>
>E X C E P T:
>>  
>> 10. The Enterprise is captured by a vastly superior alien intelligence which
>> doesn't put them on trial.
>
>  Did the Nanites trial them? Can't remember.

Home Soil -- the crystals didn't put them on trial, just made them put them
back.

>   
>> 14. The Enterprise is involved in a bizarre time-warp experience which is in
>> some way unconnected with the Late 20th Century.
>
>  Yesterday's Enterprise.
>

Also Time's Arrow.. late 19th Century

>21. Enterprise-D boldly goes where no one has gone before.
>
"Where No One Has Gone Before"

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From: bv652@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ilan Uri Woll)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Kill Troi fan club
Date: 23 Jan 1993 17:10:16 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bv652@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ilan Uri Woll)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, sweet@ug.cs.dal.ca (garth r sweet) says:

>Many people feel TNG is starting to go downhill, and I'm one of them. I think
>the crew needs to be shaken up a bit and some new blood added to the show,
>plus some more 'dark' plots. For everyone in agreement with me, here's
>a proposal. Kill Troi!!!! So I hereby start the official 'Kill Troi fan
>club', I plan to break the club down into several sub-committees that
>will research and plan future scripts to be sent to the writers, here
>are the suggested first committees:
>
>1. The "I just want Troi brutally hurt, but she can stay in the show"
>   committee.

You mean the new Picard maneuver, no, torture's to good for her.

>
>2. The "I want Troi brutally hurt and written out of the show, but she can
>   make guest appearances" committee.
>
Guest appearances, we don't need no stinking guest appearances.

>3. The "I want Troi written out of the show without pain, and she can
>   come back for guest apperances" committee. 
>   (For wimps and/or the kids and/or retired TNG writers)

Or those who want Riker to have a semi-human girlfriend for once.

>4. The "I want Troi killed and she can never come back" committee.
>   (For slightly better then wimps and/or fired TNG writers)
>
HELL YES, DIEDIEDIEDIEDIE

>5. The "I want Troi killed but she can come back for occasional guest
>   apperances as a Romulian or other alien" committee.
>   (Restricted to fired/retired TNG writers)

Oh god, not a sensitive Romulan who can "feel great emotion"


>6. The "I want Picard to tell Troi off and maybe punch her in the mouth,
>   but she can stay in the show if she keeps her mouth shut" committee.
>   Note: Tie's in with committee 1.

Feh, that's no fun, but...

>7. The "I want Troi tortured, beaten, abused, killed and cut up into little
>   pieces that get ejected onto some planet to be eaten but the local vermin
>   and have Troi never make guest apperances" commitee.
>
Especially if its done onscreen (preferrably by Worf or Riker (I've dealt
with her for 6 years and she never puts out).

>8. The "I want Troi and Wesley to both get brutally killed, and never get
>   to make guest apperances again" committee. 
>   Note: Tie's in with another fan club.

I can live with it.

>OK! So let's start organizing, first we'll start a mailing list (we'll
>beat that Damn Kira one too). So let's get going and remember to mention
>what committee(s) you want to be on (or suggest a new one NOTE: Tie in's
>with DS9 are allowed, but don't pick on Dax!). :-)

Cool, count me in on 4, 7, and 8.  Although I'm not thrilled with Dax, but
she's been given even fewer lines than Uhura or Reg Barkley.

>Disclaimer : All spelling mistakes are my own, nobody helped me with them.

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From: meb@sally.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Brodsky)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: The way she walks #Bable#
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:16:46 GMT
Reply-To: mark-brodsky@nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA

Spoilers
























Hope that did it
	In "Babel" there is a short, but great scene where Dax and Kira are  
walking down the promenade together. You can immediately see the differences  
in there characters. Kira struts in a very up-tight militaristic way (sort  
of like she has a pole stuck up her ass) while Dax glides along with a more  
peaceful manner. Strangely enough, Dax, who was once a man, seems much more  
feminine. One wonders if she always walked like that, or whether body  
language is supplied by the Trill host. Hmmm, I can hardly wait until the  
episode showcasing Dax.
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sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
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From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: First Impressions Review -- ST: DS9: "Babel" ** SPOILERS GALORE**
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:34:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: YaleVM.16B61DAF5.YANJUNA
Organization: Yale University


     I suppose since Babel hasn't been shown across the net yet, this should
have a spoiler warning, though there's nothing here that wasn't in the
previews plus one quote...
      [Down 20 blank lines...]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
In article <1993Jan25.055912.29545@athena.mit.edu>
jen@athena.mit.edu (Jennifer Hawthorne) writes:
 
>But no, we were shown none of that.  There were times when I saw faint
>hints of what I wanted to see in the actor's performance, times when
>he said "I don't know" and sounded frightened by this fact, but not
>nearly often enough.  This really got driven home for me in the scene
>between Sisko and Bashir as O'Brien lies on the table in the
>infirmary, extremely ill.  Bashir makes a comment about how the virus
>is a work of genius. What the heck kind of a comment is that to make,
>especially in the presence of a man who son is ill with that same
>virus?  A damn callous one, IMHO.  And Bashir really didn't seem all that
 
    It's a similar type of comment  made by computer scientists and analysts
a couple of years ago when a grad student from Cornell created a computer
virus which nearly brought down the whole computer net.  :)
[Granted, losing data or being locked out from running regressions are not
like losing a son... or is it?  :) ]
 
   Junsok Yang
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: bunte@neocad.com (Dave Bunte)
Subject: Re: Kira and her scale on the babe-o-meter
Organization: NeoCAD, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:23:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.124432.10382@Virginia.EDU>, qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord") writes...
> 
>	For what it's worth, I think Kira is a lot more
>attractive than Dax.  For starters, I dislike the way Dax's
>hair is pulled straight back.  It makes her head look huge!
>Although Dax *is* nice to look at, she simply looks to much
>like a model for my tastes.  Incidentally, I liked Kira's first
>hair style, as opposed to this really short one.  On a scale
>from 1 to 10, I would rate them:
> 
>Kira:	10
>Ro:	9.8
>Crusher 9.5

Are you referring to Bev or Wes? ;-)

>Troi:	9.4
>Dax:	8.5
>					-Quinn
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From: msmith@koko.csustan.edu (Marlan Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: A quick question...
Date: 25 Jan 93 06:14:12 GMT
Organization: CSU Stanislaus


 I have a question:
		nuqDaq 'oHpuchpa''e'


-Fishy

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From: v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: How do Trills reproduce?
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:08:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1993Jan22.171503.15235@rei.com>, naizer@rei.com (jonathan naizer) writes...
>Does anyone have an idea how Trills reproduce? Is it host to host? Also
>how did Trills involve? If it takes a surgical procedure to transplant
>the hosts, how did they do it before there was medicine?

     I think we can assume they did it the way we had babies before
     morphine: painfully.  In the series bible, and in "The Host,"
     it is mentioned several times that host worms "burrow" into
     the body of the symbiont.  What's a little flesh between friends?

     I wonder if I'm alone in thinking that the first few DS9 episodes
     have put a real interesting spin on the Trills... and it's too
     bad Terry Farrell is a little flat (at times).  I'm assuming she,
     and Avery Brooks, who is particularly flat at times, will grow
     into the role.  

     I would imagine the symbionts reproduce in somewhat the same way
     we do -- they are humanoid.  And that the hosts reproduce in
     some completely off the wall way -- like through cellular mitosis
     or chemical sharing or something.  They are gender neutral, remember.
     [It would be interesting for a child of Dax' [the worm] to show up
     in a body that is appealing to Jadzia [the symbiont].  Or somesuch
     plot].

     Scott Gorcey
From: n9040513@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Andrea Aldridge)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Of Course it's the same Edward Albert
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:09:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1993Jan26.030924.13052
Organization: Western Washington University

In article <i87wXB3w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> dascoser@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (david serchay) (and others)write:

>> >Didn't he have a recurring role on "Beauty and the Beast?" ...

Yes, he was Elliot Burch and it's the same guy.

>If this is the same Edward Albert who is on BATB, why was his name given 
>with the middle name?

Probably for the same reason that Pat Morita of "Happy Days" went back to
"Noriyuki `Pat' Morita," and now just Noriyuki Morita.  It's a change in
process.
>I think it's someone else, also named Edward Albert 
>who has to use his middle name because of SAG rules. The BATB Edward 
>Albert has the SAG "right" to the name

No, it's the same one.  Listen to his voice.  *LOOK* at him.  Same eyes, same
style of acting his character instead of *being* it.


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From:  (Greg Pallenik)
Subject: Re: Odo's nose
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:31:37 GMT

In article <ratner.727570701@ficus.cs.ucla.edu>, ratner@ficus.cs.ucla.edu
(Dave "Van Damme" Ratner) wrote:
> 
> minor spoilers follow:
> 
> sszeller@us.oracle.com (Scott S. Zeller) writes:
> >In article <1993Jan13.202617.508@netcom.com> linley@netcom.com (Bruce James Robrert Linley) writes:
> >>Weak spoilers from the 2ne episode of DS9 (Sorry forgot the name)
> >
> >>I also have a problem with the way he violates the conservation
> >>of mass law (The mouse turning back into Odo). The extra matter didn't seem
> >>to come from anywhere. Damn writers.
> >>-- 
> 
> >I do not understand the problem people are having with this.  Isn't it entirely
> >possible/believable for the rat (or the money pouch from 'Emissary') to be
> >composed of denser matter?  Just because it looks like a rat, doesn't mean that
> >it is one (or has the internal physiology of one).
> 
> >Just my $0.02.
> 
> >Scott
> 
> I can buy that one, but what about when Odo was inside the bag (or the bag
> itself, it wasn't entirely clear) that was given to the Cardassians to carry
> their winnings in?  Are you saying that they felt the bag weigh as much as
> Odo plus the gold?  Doesn't seem likely. 
> 

How do you know how much Odo weighs?  I always figured that Odo was pretty
much hollow when he was in his humanoid form.  Since we don't know what his
true form is, we can't assume anything about his morphing.  

And how do you know that it was all of Odo that took the form of the rat? 
It could have been only part of him, sice we never see him fully morph from
the rat to the humanoid.

Greg
From: harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The way she walks #Bable#
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:51:18 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

meb@sally.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Brodsky) writes:

>In article <1993Jan25.162046@usho72.hou281.chevron.com>  
>hhtra@usho72.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock) writes:
>> In article <1993Jan25.201646.22358@news.acns.nwu.edu>,  
>meb@sally.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Brodsky) writes:
>> 
>> |> 	In "Babel" there is a short, but great scene where Dax and Kira are  
>> |> walking down the promenade together. You can immediately see the  
>differences  
>> |> in there characters. Kira struts in a very up-tight militaristic way  
>(sort  
>> |> of like she has a pole stuck up her ass) while Dax glides along with a  
>more  
>> |> peaceful manner. Strangely enough, Dax, who was once a man, seems much  
>more  
>> |> feminine. One wonders if she always walked like that, or whether body  
>> |> language is supplied by the Trill host.
>>  
>>  Yeah, I bet TERRY FARRELL has walked that way most of her adult life!
>>
>Hell I know that. But they went out of there way to show the differances.  
>And I'm sure Farrell could walk like a bitch if she wanted to.

I think the difference is that _Jadzia_ (not Dax) walked like that for
twenty-some-odd years before Dax was implanted in her body.  It makes
sense to me for Dax to simply let Jadzia do the walking -- i.e. Dax's
brain wants the body to walk, but lets Jadzia's brain do the work.
This lets Dax keep her mind on "a higher level." (taken from "A Man
Alone")

Symbionts are fun. ;)
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From: sg0d@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (STEPHEN R. GILBERT)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Canon vs. non-Canon is a r.a.s.misc question
Date: 22 Jan 93 02:44:48 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1jm24pINN8r1@mirror.digex.com>, bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler) writes:
>sg0d@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (STEPHEN R. GILBERT) writes:
>>Isn't it?
>
>Given the propensity for usenet discussions to wander
>off the topic without a change to the Subject: line,
>how worthwhile is a newsgroup dedicated to "current"
>discussions?
>
>Get real.
>
>
>-- 
>bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler) 
>This week's usenet malapropism: foo, foo-foo
>foo=general meaningless expletive, not deleted
>foo-foo=the kind of sweet drinks they serve at Armand Chicago Pizzaria
>
What?
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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Stewart's/Picard's accent
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 08:26:20 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc

In article <1993Jan20.001913.22058@Princeton.EDU> hjanberg@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Hans-nicolas Kenneth Janberg) writes:
>And then: why can not one person in ST:TNG pronounce Captain Picard's
>name correctly, not even he himself (or rather Stewart) can do that. His
>first name is Jean-Luc and not John-something-I-do-not-know-how-to-spell,
>and the "d" in Picard is not pronounced. Paradoxically, the Germans
>pronounce it correctly when they dubb ST:TNG ...

Names are just about the only aspect of a language that don't have to
follow "the rules" for their pronunciation. They are pronounced however
thier owners want them pronounced (or mis-pronounced).

Followups set to r.a.s.misc.


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From: vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Kira Does NOT have PMS ...
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:31:50 GMT
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO

In article <C1IpxE.Ez8@cmptrc.lonestar.org> brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton) writes:

>Everyone was one dimensional the first season of TNG, so don't sell Kira short
>yet.  Sure she screams alot and acts like the poster child for PMS, but from
>all we know about her character's origins, this sounds fairly normal.

I find all this "PMS" stuff pretty offensive.  I think that the
character of Bajoran women (and men) in general has been fairly
well-established, starting with the "Ensign Ro" episode.  They've
grown up in Cardassian concentration camps and all have fairly major
chips on their shoulders.  So do a lot of Jews that I've been friends
with over the years.  Would you call a Holocaust survivor with an
attitude a "poster child for PMS," or would you assume that person had
a legitimate reason for being the way they were and give them the
benefit of the doubt?

If you don't like the character, please find a more reasonable and
less sexist reason for it.  This crap doesn't belong here.

--
Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu
From: mdc@crash.cts.com (Milo D. Cooper)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: ILM EFFECTS.
Date: 28 Jan 93 07:51:44 GMT
Distribution: usa


	A few people responded to my contention that Vidiot
was wrong to proclaim that Industrial Light and Magic have
never had anything to do with ST:TNG.  They responded in fa-
vor of Vidiot, even as they pointed out that ILM's contri-
bution to the show can be found only in its opening sequence.
	This is a perfect example of the willingness of some
people here to assert any esoteric knowledge they may have,
regardless of the cost to themselves.
	The fact is that the introductory sequence of the show
is integral.  It serves very much to attain the attention of
potential regular viewers and it serves to excite a fan's en-
thusiasm through its familiarity.  The start of any show is
extremely important.
	In light of this, credit should be given to any party
responsible for any portion of this sequence.  No one here can
logically disagree.  It is wholly evident for all to see that
Vidiot was incorrect.  ILM has something to do with the show
whenever the title sequence is run, and we all know how often
that occurs.  Should Alex Courage and Jerry Goldsmith hold a
place in the end credits for their musical contributions (which
occur only during the opening and closing credits and during
commercials) in only _some_ of the Next Genereation episodes?
	Stop sending me mail defending Vidiot.  He was wrong
and you know it.  I don't care that you are in possession of
fundamentally useless knowledge of the nature of ILM's specific-
ally functional role in a Star Trek series.  This is how the
term "Trekkie" received its embarassing connotation.

						 _m d c_
			  Milo D. Cooper  '92   | 1992  |  mdc@crash.cts.com
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: TNG Companion
Date: 21 Jan 93 05:02:15 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <mcook.727407595@fendahl.dev.cdx.mot.com> mcook@fendahl.dev.cdx.mot.com (Michael Cook) writes:
<brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
<
<>In article <9301141436.AA17400@enet-gw.pa.dec.com> d_ellis@ricks.enet.dec.com (David Ellis  14-Jan-1993 0937) writes:
<><annie@whoville.manassas.ibm.com (Brenda Molina) asks:
<><
<><> What is this TNG Companion?
<...
<
<>Like Tim and I, Nemecek started out doing fan produced guides.  But, unlike
<>Tim and I, he got the book deal :-) :-(
<
<Perhaps because Nemecek knows when to say "Tim and I" and when to say "Tim and
<me"?  :-)

You must be a Quayle lover, since the correct term is indeed "Tim and I"  Me
is not supposed to be used in that context.
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From: kbrill@GACSTL.UUCP (Kenneth Brill)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: The Alien in STAR TREK XXXX
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:09:25 GMT
Organization: GateWay Amiga Users Group of St Louis
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In an article, villard@venus.cc.hollandc.pe.ca (EXCUSE ME????) writes:

>
>Before I say anything, I wish to express the fact that I am a die hard 
>Star Trek fan and always will be, so this is not just a cheap shot, 
>How come almost every single alien on the Star Trek series are 
>humanoid.  

<<Much of valid letter deleted>>

I believe that they explain it with an ancient race called the.... hmmm 
Gathers maybe... I forget, but the jist is that these people had nothing 
better to do than seed worlds with humanoid lifeforms.  As you can tell I 
have very little to back this one up but I am sure that someone will correct  
me if I am wrong.  


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