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From: HMUSAMWS@admin.uh.edu (SUMBERA, MICHEAL W.)
Subject: Re: BANDS: (Re: BOA)
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:57:01 GMT
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In <8eqhkL200iUyQ241lS@andrew.cmu.edu> David writes:
> 
> No time for comments now, except for the fact that Westerville South's
> show once again impressed me beyond belief and has made me change my
> judgement of high school marching bands . . .
> 

Do you remember rep. for any of the groups you saw?

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From: sradeker@nyx.cs.du.edu (Scott Radeker)
Subject: Re: drill (was Re: Creativity vs. Execution)
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Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 02:12:46 GMT

In article <1apm1eINNndm@bigboote.WPI.EDU> ddm@wpi.WPI.EDU (David D Marshall) writes:
>Then the execution judge can say that this person is totally
>out of it, and the g.e. judge can say that the form looks jacked.  Either
>way a mistake will be made, but by adjusting the drill, you can minimize
>the damage.
>
>Any thoughts?

I also agree.  As long as the form looks homogeneous and the spacing 
doesn't suffer, the form should be allowed to drift from the "hard
coordinates."  I think keeping a good spacing in all your forms is 
the marching equivalent of playing in tune.  Even a total novice
can tell if your spacing is wrong, just like they'll know if you're
out of tune.  I have ALWAYS admired the Cadets spacing, even when 
I disliked the show design.

Scott Radeker

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From: jvbutera@grad04.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Future Corps....  Info
Date: 16 Oct 92 11:46:57 GMT
Organization: NCSU Mathematics Dept.

Not to be illiterate, could someone explain this Future Corps
idea to me.


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From: ddm@wpi.WPI.EDU (David D Marshall)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: 1992 DCI videos are out/review
Date: 9 Oct 1992 15:11:00 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <1992Oct9.134106.17528@hubcap.clemson.edu> mlgreer@eng.clemson.edu writes:
>Keywords: Ok.  I'm new at this news reader thing, but there is something I want to know
>  Does anyone know when and where I can try out for the Spirit of Atlanta.  I play quints specifically and I think I have what it takes to march DCI.
>
>mlgreer@eng.clemson.edu

Call up their office in downtown Atlanta.  If no one has the phone number off
hand, look them up under "Youth Organizations" in the Yellow Pages (Atlanta
obviously).  That's what I did.  They used to have auditions, but I don't
if they still do, but they'll let you know.  Also take a serious look at
Southwind in Birmingham, they won Div II last year, and they seem to be 
giving Spirit a rum for their money in the best crops in the South.  Whatever
you decide, let us know, or at least me personally.
--David



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From: streuer_d@cubldr.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Finals Sites
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:46:34 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <1992Oct10.173525.19721@ncsu.edu>, jvbutera@grad01.math.ncsu.edu
(Jeffrey V. Butera) writes:

 
> Come on.  There are far more corps concentrated in California than the East
> (And notice the "East" here does not include the "Midwest" ie: Madison,
> Star, etc.)  I lived in Rhode Island for 18 years and have been in South
> and North Carolina for the past 5.  I get to see a WHOPPING 2 or 3 shows
> a year, and at that, I have to drive between 2 and 5 _hours_ to get to them
> and these are local-yocal shows, not DCI East or South Finals.  We usually
> get no more than 2 (perhaps 3) open class corps at a single show.
> 
> So stop complaining, we all don't get as much as we'd like.....
 
So how many did you get to see when you were in Rhode Island?  The
concentration I speak of takes in DCA and the Division I and II size corps.
There's just more access.  In western NY state you could go over to Canada
and see their shows and there was always Pennsylvania shows too.  

I'd say that Preview of Champions they hold in the southern part of the 
country (Nashville?) has a pretty impressive list of participants, better than
DATR and you get at least more than ONE show.  I love drum corps but I'm not
about to drive to California to see other shows!
From: MHUGHES@MIAMIU.BITNET
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Percussion notation system
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:10:11 GMT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

The following (I believe) is the final version of the rythymic notation
scheme developed by percussionists who contribute to alt.drumcorps.  The
notation scheme incorporates different rudiments and techniques utilized
in modern drum and bugle corps.
 
A key to the notation is as follows:
 
  . = single stroke tap
  , = flam
  ; = cherta (flam + drag)
  > = accent
  ^ = rimshot
  : = double stroke, or bounce stroke as used in open rolls
  z = buzz or press stroke as used in buzz rolls
  _ = rest (value depending on the pulse of the figure)
  | = barline
 
Meter shall be indicated by common musical metric symbols, e.g., 3/4
indicating 3 beats in a bar, quarter note gets the beat.  Unless
otherwise indicated, the pulse of a figure is assumed to be 16th note
pulse for any quarter note-based meter (i.e., x/4), 8th notes for any
eighth noted based meter (i.e., x/8), etc.  Variations from the standard
pulse, such as triplet or sextuplet figures, shall be indicated by
-3- or ---6---, etc.  Spaces may be used to separate beats to enhance
the readability of the music.
 
Dynamics shall be indicated by the usual pp, mf, ff, etc., as well as
cresc. and dim. to indicate crescendos and decrescendos.  <<<<<<<<< and
>>>>>>> may also be used.
 
Sticking may be indicated under the note/rest notation using R and L.
 
 
The following example illustrates the system using an excerpt from the
*Channel One Suite* drum solo as played by the 1986 Blue Devils:
 
   >      >       >        >      >      ---6--- ---6--- ---6---
|4 zzzz zzzz zzzz zzzz  |2 zzzz zz._  |3 ... ... ... ... ... ... |4
|4                      |4            |4                         |4
   pp                                      cresc<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
 
 
   >  >   >   >   > >    >  >   >   >   > >
|4 ,.., ...: :._. ,_,_ | ,.., ...: :.:: ._,_ |
|4        R   L L      |        R   L   R    |
 
<<<ff
 
 
Mike Hughes
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From: jvbutera@grad04.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera)
Subject: Re: Jackson Stadium and 1993 show designs.
Organization: NCSU Mathematics Dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:15:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.211850.16487@medtron.medtronic.com> ck10322@china.medtronic.com (Cameron Kaszas) writes:
*       
*Well, what kind of pressbox does a cluttered drill work for? ;^)
*
*- Cam

Drill that is complex and cluttered work best for high close-up 
pressboxes, because the juudges are looking (virtually) down on
the field and can see the forms clear.  A distant press box is
looking more "across" the top of the drill, rather than down on to
it.

Get it?




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From: gwr@tantalum.eds.com (George Rapp)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: "Southern" weather (was - Re: Jackson weather)
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:44:27 GMT
Reply-To: gwr@tantalum.eds.com
Followup-To: alt.drumcorps
Organization: EDS Research

In article 6wq@csn.org, pae@teal.csn.org (Phil Earnhardt) writes:
> > [...]
> >The report I get is that the volcano ash that is in the air and causing this
> >cold weather will be there for the next 4 years. It might be pretty darn
> >decent in Jackson.
> 
> The volcanos have been doing their thing for a while.  How warm/cold was The
> South this summer? (Willard?)

I don't know if you count Dallas as "The South", Phil, but it was
extremely mild here (mid-80s) during August of this year, especially
during the weekend of August 14-16 (or so I am told - I was in
Wisconsin).  It appears that DCI should have had their finals here this
year instead.

(This is, of course, only a comment on the weather.  Even though I live
here, I don't want to see DCI come back - not that it's gonna happen -
unless a better venue can be found.  The stadium is a horrible place to
sit because of the small seats, and as for location, Fair Park, where
the Cotton Bowl is located, is acknowledged by the Dallas Police
Department as the "worst beat" in the city to work.  Is anyone who
attended DCI in '91 surprised?  8^)

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From: sradeker@nyx.cs.du.edu (Scott Radeker)
Subject: Re: Goodbye Ted Swaldo
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Keywords: DCI BLUECOATS MARCHING
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Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 02:44:59 GMT

In article <9536@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM> rlapham@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Richard Lapham) writes:
>Ted Swaldo the Director of the Bluecoats Drum & Bugle Corps is leaving
>as it's director. 

So why did he leave?  Is he replacing someone at another corps?

Scott

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From: HMUSAMWS@admin.uh.edu (SUMBERA, MICHEAL W.)
Subject: Re: BOA
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:21:29 GMT
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In <92285.235853KPW104@psuvm.psu.edu> K-JAMZ writes:

> Anybody out there follow MBA or BOA competitions.

Well, I don't exactly follow them, but I am looking forward to the regional
competition this week end at Rice Stadium.  I'm most particularly interested in
seeing Westfield.  They're marching to David Holsinger's "Ballet Sacra," an
extremely interesting work for band and chorus.

If you want results, I'll get them to you Monday.
From: fath1@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Fath)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: DRUM CORPS IS STUPID
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:01:23 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Oct15.122218.28979@ncsu.edu> jvbutera@grad04.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera) writes:
>In article <1992Oct15.012226.7682@iscsvax.uni.edu> young7905@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

garbage deleted>*
>
>Is this for real, or an I dreaming? (or is this person just ignorant?)
>
>
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>Math Graduate Student
>N.C. State University    "Still looking for a witty quote." 
>jvbutera@math.ncsu.edu                           -Brad Halls

It must be a dream.  I suggest we don't waste any more band width on it.
Obviously, the person just wants to start a FlameWar and be a jerk.  Let's
be smart and ignore it.


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From: rwberry@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robert W Berry)
Subject: Re: DRUM CORPS IS STUPID
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:56:32 GMT

Whoops!  Looks like someone left their account logged in.  ;-)!

I wonder how many other newsgroups got this kind of trash.

Later,
Bob

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From: pae@blackcat.stortek.com (Phil Earnhardt)
Subject: 1993 POC
Summary: ...it's far, far away from Jackson!
Organization: StorageTek, Louisville, CO
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:04:04 GMT

From Tami Vogel in the DCI office:

The 1993 DCI Preview of Champions will be held July 30-31 in Ypsilanti, MI.
This is the place where DCI North was held for several yeras; Tami reports
that there have been extensive stadium renovations done recently.

Tami also reports that some Friends of DCI are not ticketing for Jackson.  DCI
is doing all of their "Friends" ticketing way early this year (to be able to
report ticket orders to as many people as possible in real time), so there may
be some perdictions available in mid-November about how big a dropoff there
will be in Nationals attendance this summer.

--phil
From: ddm@wpi.WPI.EDU (David D Marshall)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Who's not going to go to Jackson?
Date: 11 Oct 1992 23:54:51 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <1992Oct11.034816.11277@stortek.com> pae@blackcat.stortek.com (Phil Earnhardt) writes:
>No, you're still missing the point. People go to the *appropriate* climate for
>their activities. Fans will not pay money to go see a College Bowl in a
>climate that's going to be freezing in the winter. And I'm not willing to
>spend my $$$ going to see drumcorps in a venue that promises to *still* be
>unbearably hot as midnight approaches on championshiop night.
>

I really haven't followed this thread to closely, flames give me a rash if
exposed to them for too long :), but are you indirectly penalizing a
geographic region of the country from experiencing Worlds because of its
climate?  If a large number of 'DCI regulars' skip this year, then of course
there won't be another Worlds there.  I agree that the weather isn't as
comfortable as the air conditioning when I watch the broadcast, but it's
Summer.  The night of Finals last year was a very comfortable temperature
in Georgia, so you really can't automatically assume that the weather will
be unbelievably hot.

>--phil


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From: xclass@nw3669.b30.ingr.com (new user)
Subject: schedule of appearances 
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:24:58 GMT

I am a new user to this group, but I'm very interested in obtaining information
regarding drum corps appearances within driving distance of Huntsville, AL.
I know this season has ended, but I'm curious if anyone has a schedule of 
events for the South next season.  I saw my first drum corps competition in
1979 at Jacksonville State University in Jacksonville, AL and I've been a
big fan ever since.  Thank for any info.

                                        NW
From: phelps1230@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Thoughts on Jackson; Dome; and the West
Date: 7 Oct 92 10:15:22 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

I don't want to suffer through the heat of Jackson any more than you do! (I
have to march...not spectate! ;) ) Besides the heat, I wonder if the grass in
that stadium is going to survive? Any thoughts on how the uneven NATURAL
surface is going to affect sound quality and overall performance on finals
nite? (It's wonderful grass and generally level...but what will it be like
after division II-III finals, quarters, and semis????) We didn't seem to have
any problem with the box, and it must not have been very different from some
others like that we've had since I don't remember straining any for the box.
I can't think that it would affect drill effects much.

Someone mentioned the dome in Atlanta.....DOMES ARE *NOT* GOOD FOR MUSIC!!!!!
I march with the UNI band here and most of the time we battle time problems
from the horrible echo in there. It's so bad that you CANNOT listen back and
get a tempo from the battery! You can hear the woodwinds VERY clearly (which
should give you an idea of the acoustics of the place)! Other than that, it's
great for fall-winter football...it's warm and everyone can hear any cheer or
song the band does.

Just a rumor from the inside....Colts are working on getting out west this
year...at least to Denver, I think. Of course....we were supposed to go to New
Orleans for free day last year and we're supposed to get another bus; an
equipment truck; and new horns; too.....so we'll see!! ;)



Brooke
Colts '89-93
Mellophone
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
From: georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark)
Subject: Re:  Ad For Mailorder Nootropics
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 23:08:42 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <1992Oct06.220023.11646@eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
>In today's mail, I received an unsolicited advertisement for nootropic
>drugs from a foreign drug company. What follows is a summary of the drugs
>they sell and the claims they make.
>
>Should I order some of each, so I'll get a synergistic effect by taking them
>all at once? If not, maybe I should just complain to the F.D.A. about
>getting an unsolicited ad in the mail.
>
>What do you nootropic experts think I should do? Most of these drugs
>I've never even heard of.

I've received about two dozen e-mail postings from people I don't
know who want further details on the foreign mailorder drug company
that I mentioned in this thread. If I were to reply to each of you,
it would amount to a part-time job.

Unless you are someone I know, please don't send me e-mail. My
intent was to have discussion in this newsgroup. That's what
newsgroups are for.
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From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re:  Ad For Mailorder Nootropics
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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 18:47:52 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.230842.21446@eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu (Geor
e B. Clark) writes:
 

>I've received about two dozen e-mail postings from people I don't
>know who want further details on the foreign mailorder drug company
>that I mentioned in this thread. If I were to reply to each of you,
>it would amount to a part-time job.
>
>Unless you are someone I know, please don't send me e-mail. My
>intent was to have discussion in this newsgroup. That's what
>newsgroups are for.


 So maybe you could POST the information that people were requesting.
That's also what newsgroups can be for...

St. Anthony

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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: Zoloft?
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 08:40:00 GMT

In article <16359@mindlink.bc.ca> Ed_Meyer@mindlink.bc.ca (Ed Meyer) writes:
>If Steve's assessment is correct, re. Zoloft's ability to be placed in
>the same catagory as Prozac (fluoxetine), I would offer a caution: any
>new drug appears to be treated as a "god-send" for at least the first
>year on the market.  Needless to say, side-effects can be expected in
>many areas.

It is always a good idea to treat a new drug with prudence.  But I
don't think anyone would claim that sertraline is a godsend.  The drug
has roughly the same pharmacological actions as fluoxetine, but it's
unrelated chemically.  It has a shorter half-life than fluoxetine and
is available in more flexible dosage forms.  So far there hasn't seemed
to be anything particularly untoward appearing in the use of the drug.

>For example, Prozac (fluoxetine) has been widely used, and more and more
>people are having serious problems with severe joint pains, swelling of
>the lower limbs, and burning and tingling in fingers and arms.

What?  Please ask your wife where she ever heard this.  This is news to me.

>As of this
>time we are unaware of the long-lasting side effects of Prozac which, just
>a short time ago, was hailed as a near "end-all-be-all" anti-depressant.

The only people who might have said this were patients who were given
it and the media itself.  Fluoxetine is not an end-all-be-all drug.
However, it does lack many of the annoying side effects of the
tricyclic and MAO inhibitor antidepressants, and many individuals
experience _no_ side effects from either fluoxetine or sertraline at
all.  Earlier drugs sometimes detracted from "quality of life"
sufficiently that they had real trade offs (which is not to say that
they weren't useful then or are not now.)  Some people cannot tolerate
these new drugs; they can cause nervousness and insomnia in some
people, and I already mentioned the "anorgasmia" phenomenon.

>You may also be interested to know that there is a part of the brain that,
>when stimulated, creates sexual desire.  If this part of the brain is
>overstimulated, it can create an insatiable desire for sex.  Seeing that
>Zoloft is new, we really don't yet fully know nor understand its side-
>effects: user beware.

Hypersexuality isn't _that_ common a side effect of this class of drugs.
I think it's quite imprudent for your wife, the "therapist", to be offering
what is essentially a context-free scare story where one is not indicated.


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