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From: bechdol@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jeff Bechdol)
Subject: Re: Grad school comments
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:18:14 GMT
Reply-To: bechdol@vnet.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <1992Nov16.150247.3613@aisb.ed.ac.uk>, reiter@aisb.ed.ac.uk writes:
|>
|> 6) Most important of all.  Are you sure you really, *really*, want to go to
|> grad school?  A lot of people drift into a Ph.D program because its expected
|> of them by their parents, undergrad professors, etc., or simply because its
|> the course of least resistance (puts off that horrible process of actually
|> having to find a job in the real world).  But an academic career is *not*
|> for everyone, and there are a lot of other options available, especially for
|> the computer-literate.  Be sure that *you* are the one who wants to go to
|> grad school, not your parents or your undergrad mentor.
|>

In general, I would agree.  However, if you intend to pursue an AI career in
industry, then you better be prepared to show your M.S. or Ph.D.  Much in the
same way you have to have a High School Diploma or a B.S., a graduate degree is
pretty much required as proof of competency in the field of AI.

Bottom line: If you want to pursue a career in AI, then get the graduate degree
(even if you don't want to)... get it done... it's a "union" card.

Added dislaimer: Of course, it is possible to have a career in AI without a
graduate degree, but it's just not very probable.

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                                                          Jeffery A. Bechdol
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From: jwkim@ece.arizona.edu (Jinwoo Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.ai.shells
Subject: Reasoning Method for Object-Oriented KB
Date: 23 Nov 92 07:31:14 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: U of Arizona Electrical and Computer Engineering

Dear Netters,

Hi,

I am looking for papers/references about Object-Oriented 
Knowledge-based Reasoning method. Is there any significant
difference non O-O KB reasoning and O-O KB reasoning. 

Maybe it depends on its knowledge representation scheme.
If there is enough replies, I'll post the summary.

Any comments will be very much welcomed!

--- jkim      email :: jwkim@helios.ece.arizona.edu
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From: fsullivn@vax1.tcd.ie
Newsgroups: comp.ai.shells,comp.ai,comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: HyperCard-based Expert System WANTED
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:54:03 GMT
Organization: Trinity College Dublin

A friend of mine is looking for an expert system to use on the Mac, in
particular he's interested in one that uses HyperCard.

A simple rule-based version is all that's required.  Perhaps someone knows of
some relevent shareware.

If possible, please respond by e-mail and I'll post summaries to the net.  

Thanks in advance,

Fergus Sullivan.
Trinity College, Dublin.
e-mail:  fsullivn@vax1.tcd.ie
Newsgroups: comp.ai.shells
From: tyr@surya.cs.wayne.edu (Tyakal Ramachandraprabhu)
Subject: address request
Keywords: Neuron Data, NEXPERT OBJECT
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:46:21 GMT

Dear Netters,
  Can anyone out there please send me the mailing address
  (US mail ) of Neuson data(Neuron Data) the makers
  of NEXPERT OBJECT? If they have an e-mail address
  please send that also.
  Thanks in advance.
  ---Prabhu
From: ahumphr@micrognosis.co.uk (Aidan Humphreys)
Newsgroups: comp.ai.shells
Subject: AICorp AION Merger
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:54:50 GMT
Organization: Micrognosis, London, UK.

I read recently that the two major players in the IBM expert systems market
have merged. Does anyone have the background to this story ? Did AICorp
take over AION or vice-versa?

What are the implications for their two leading products KBMS & ADS?
Newsgroups: comp.ai.shells
From: weber@charlie.iam.unibe.ch (Stephan Weber)
Subject: WANTED  SMECI - USERS
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Berne, Switzerland
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:58:07 GMT


Hello

I am working with the french expert system shell SMECI from ILOG.
I am now looking for other people working with this shell to share
the experience. Especially I am interested in your experience with
the new 1.65 version. I got some problems and I am still working
with the 1.54 version.

Please mail me your experience. Thanks

Stephan 

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* Universitaet Bern                                     *
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From: hcl@aisb.ed.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.ai.shells
Subject: Clips-like shell for MSDOS?
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:57:59 GMT
Reply-To: hcl@aisb.ed.ac.uk ()
Organization: Dept AI, Edinburgh University, Scotland

I am looking for an expert system shell with the capabilities
of CLIPS but which I can run on my PC (386) at home.
Any suggestions? I asssume CLIPS will run only on Unix
machines and I cannot run unix on my present machine.
Newsgroups: comp.ai.shells
From: cbreen@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au (Colin Breen)
Subject: Re: Clips-like shell for MSDOS?
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 21:34:40 GMT

There is a version of CLIPS available for MSDOS machines, as well as a
Macintosh version.

A version for MSDOS is included with the text 'Expert Systems' by Giarranto/Riley: (ISBN 0-534-92003-9) .T he source code for Clips can be purchased from Cosmic, NASA's software distribution centre.  

The Macintosh and MSDOS version can be obtained via anonymous FTP from a number of sites, including archie.au.


--
Colin Breen
Microcomputer Systems Officer University of Tasmania at Launceston
C.Breen@compserv.utas.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.ai.shells
From: labenrsa@ICIL64.CILEA.IT
Subject: ES shells available via FTP
Organization: CILEA - v R. Sanzio 4 - Segrate - ITALY
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:26:47 GMT
Reply-To: labenrsa@ICIL64.CILEA.IT



Hi,
    i am looking for information about expert system shells available by FTP.

Thanks in advance for any help.

						Marco 

e-mail: albertelli%laben@icil64.cilea.it


Newsgroups: comp.ai.shells
From: bob@cvi.ns.nl (Bob Zwanikken)
Subject: KEE and Kappa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:19:30 GMT
Organization: Centrum Voor Informatieverwerking, Utrecht, The Netherlands

I'm wondering what the status is of KEE in relation to Kappa.
Will Kappa succeed KEE or will they both live happily together?

What is the current status of KEE? Are there new releases planned,
or is there only some maintainance?

- Bob -
-- 
Bob Zwanikken (bob@cvi.ns.nl)
CVI (Dutch Railways, automation department)
PO Box 2233 3500 GE Utrecht
Phone +31 30 924421
From: plaisted@plaisted.cs.unc.edu (David Plaisted)
Newsgroups: comp.ai.shells
Subject: Source code and info for MYCIN/EMYCIN/NEOMYCIN wanted
Keywords: expert systems, MYCIN
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:51:52 GMT

I am teaching a course in expert systems at UNC Chapel Hill.  The
students want to see one system in detail, such as MYCIN or the shell
EMYCIN or NEOMYCIN.  Is the source code for any of these systems
available by ftp?  It would also be nice to have a high-level
description of the working of the code.

I need this in a few days, so a rapid response would be appreciated.

Thanks.

	Dave Plaisted
	plaisted@cs.unc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.ai
From: oribaux@ulys.unil.ch
Subject: ai and forensic sciences
Organization: University of Lausanne - CH (Switzerland)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:10:17 GMT


I am interested in all ai works related to forensic sciences, criminalistic
and criminal investigation.

I would be happy to have any pointers in this direction


Thanks

 Oliver


Newsgroups: comp.ai
From: sheppard@escher.cs.jhu.edu (John Sheppard)
Subject: Re: How to pick a grad school
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University CS Department
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:14:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.191640.19300@urbana.mcd.mot.com> jdooley@urbana.mcd.mot.com (John Dooley) writes:
>ginsberg@t.Stanford.EDU (Matthew L. Ginsberg) writes:
>
>>Yes,
>>graduate school will teach you (hopefully) to organize your time,
>>teach, write papers and present them.  But those are all things that
>>you can, if need be, learn elsewhere (albeit perhaps with some
>>difficulty).  What graduate school teaches you that you can't learn
>>anywhere else is to be a scientist.  And the person you learn that
>>from, more than anyone else, is your faculty advisor.
>
>>						Matt Ginsberg
>

Focus on the phrase, "...that you can't learn anywhere else..."
This is pure baloney!  Yes graduate schools teach you about research.
Yes, they teach you to be a scientist.  But those who think graduate
school is the ONLY place to learn to be a scientist are kidding themselves.
IMHO it is the BEST place to learn to be a scientist, but many scientists
have been trained through mentorships and apprenticeships in industry.
So let's drop the academic arrogance and move on.

John Sheppard
From: JJH113@psuvm.psu.edu (Your Puerto Rican neighbor!)
Newsgroups: comp.ai
Subject: Wanted: Chess algorithms
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:00:23 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Need more information on AI and computer chess programs/algorithms.
If you know or know someone who can help me where get algorithms, maybe
code or instructions... Please let me know!
Thanks.
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From: hall@waterfall.csee.usf.edu (Larry Hall)
Newsgroups: comp.ai
Subject: Position announcement
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:07:04 GMT
Organization: University of South Florida, Department of Computer Science and Engineering


**********  Tenure track position in Artificial Intelligence ***************
**********  Department of Computer Science and Engineering    ***************
**********  University of South Florida                       ***************
**********   Tampa                                             ***************


This position is to be filled for the Fall of 1993.  The University of South
Florida is the second largest school in Florida, with approximately 34,000 
total students.  It is a comprehensive research university.  The Department 
is a young dynamic group of faculty.  There are about 60 full time graduate
students at the M.S. and Ph.D. level and another 50 part time students.
The Tampa campus is the main campus with over 25,000 students and all of the
graduate programs.  Tampa is an urban city with many cultural attractions.  
We are close to the beach, Disney World, and some fine museums. We desire 
excellent research potential or accomplishments and the ability to be an 
outstanding teacher.  The position will be for the Assistant or Associate
level depending upon qualifications.  We are interested in people with 
interests in machine learning, knowledge representations, modern expert 
systems topics, reasoning, etc.  To apply send a curriculum vitae and the 
names of 3 references to 

Faculty Search Committee
Department of Computer Science and Engineering
University of South Florida
Tampa, Fl. 33620
Newsgroups: comp.ai
From: hm@cs.brown.edu (Harry Mamaysky)
Subject: PhD programs
Organization: Brown University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:29:08 GMT

Howdy all,

I am a Master's student at Brown University. I expect to be graduating
towards the end of 1993. I am very seriously considering getting a PhD
in the area of machine learning, with a strong cognitive science
emphasis. So, I am looking around for schools which have programs in
this area. Among particular concerns of mine are the following:

	1. Since, I will have an M.S., I want a program that will
	not require me to take the usual year of courses that PhD
	students need, since I will have already done so.

	2. I would like a program which places a strong emphasis on
	doing things in a bilogically feasible way, in other words
	one with a cognitive science flavor. If the program also dealt
	with actual real world applications of learning methods, that
	would be a big plus.

	3. I am particularly interested in connectionist learning,
	and especially with maintaining domain information in such
	a context.

	4. Also, if I could somehow have my Master's thesis fulfill
	a part of the research requirement for a PhD that would be 
	nice.

	5. Of course, I would like to find a school with a strong
	research program and a strong faculty.

If any of you have information about programs similar to what I
described above, I would appreciate very much if you would let me
know. Thanks in adavance for all responses. I would prefer email, 
but any sort of a response would be much appreciated.

Harry.

hm@cs.brown.edu


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From: acoggins@fish.Princeton.EDU (Adam Cody Coggins)
Newsgroups: comp.ai,comp.ai.genetic,rec.games.programmer
Subject: Re: Games and genetic algorithms
Keywords: genetic algorithms
Date: 16 Nov 92 02:33:30 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <1992Nov11.131739.19137@athena.mit.edu> acgoldis@athena.mit.edu (Andrew C Goldish) writes:
>I have written several computer games using the Borland Pascal compiler and
>would like to teach the computer to learn from its own mistakes when it plays
>against a human opponent (a la War Games).  I am going to try to insert a
>genetic algorithm into the board evaluation subroutine so that the game
>strategies whose parameters produce the most successful games survive to
>the "next generation".  Is this a good idea?  If not, what other method of
>computer learning should I use?
>  My first project will be to convert either Checkers, Othello, or Ataxx.

I threw together a little strategy game a couple years ago that used 
a genetic algorithm to select moves.  A game could accomidate four players
at a time, which made it easy to compare four different computer players
at once.  This worked as follows:

Each turn, a computer player would calculate a value for each possible 
move using a set of parameters.  The player would then take the move with
the highest value.  At the end of the game, several new computer players
would be created, using the weights of the winner, but slightly modified
("mutated").  A new game would take place with the mutated players and the
original winner.

How well did it work?  If I let it run overnight (code was in QuickBASIC
on a 386 PC-clone, so it wasn't really fast) I would get players that were 
ok, but a human could beat them without too much trouble.  However, I
think a major limitation was the way my parameters were set up--decisions
were a result of merely linear combinations of the parameters, so the 
computer couldn't make very sophisticated decisions.  But I think that a
combination of some standard symbolic AI with some genetically learned
parameters could produce a pretty good computer opponent.

I think you could get a fairly sophisticated and smart computer opponents
by using a neural network in conjunction with parameters genetically 
determined.  (Just a thought--I haven't done a serious test of this, and
I'm not sure what neural net architectures to try.)

Anyhow, best of luck--there are some cool possiblilities in genetic algorithms
and neural networks.

-Cody Coggins <acoggins@phoenix.princeton.edu>

By the way, if anyone follows up to this post, could they e-mail a copy
of the followup?  I don't read this group much.
Newsgroups: comp.ai,comp.ai.neural-nets,sci.bio
From: nak7558@tamsun.tamu.edu (505247007)
Subject: Protein Database for Neural Networks Wanted
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:38:24 GMT

A group of us are planning on using neural networks on proteins to forcast
different bonds.  (I would go more into the description and processes, but
I'm not a chemist, I'm just a programmer who knows neural nets).

Does anyone know of or have an ftp-able database of protein configurations
or amino acid sequences?  Does anyone know of a general catalog of CD-ROMs
that can be ordered that have these databases?  And does anyone know of
simular research going on anywhere?

Please respond by e-mail to nak7558@tamsun.tamu.edu

Thank you!
				-Neal Krawetz
				-Ph.D. Computer Science Graduate Program
				-nak7558@tamsun.tamu.edu

Newsgroups: comp.ai
From: gap+@CS.CMU.EDU (Garrett Pelton)
Subject: Re: Grad school comments
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:39:46 GMT

In article <2B0917E4.DC7@deneva.sdd.trw.com>, shrdlu@willow.sdd.trw.com (Lynda L. True) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov16.191814.10733@rchland.ibm.com> bechdol@vnet.ibm.com writes:
|> >In article <1992Nov16.150247.3613@aisb.ed.ac.uk>, reiter@aisb.ed.ac.uk writes:
   
    Bunch of stuff deleted

|> 
|> Hah! Again I say HAH! I've been working in the field of AI for ten (count 'em,
|> ten) years, and I have a BA. Not even a BS, and not even in comp sci (although
|> I DID minor in comp sci).
|> 
|> >Bottom line: If you want to pursue a career in AI, then get the graduate degree
|> >(even if you don't want to)... get it done... it's a "union" card.
|> 
|> Nope. It's not only NOT a union card, but out of the productive people I've
|> worked with, only one has had a doctorate (which was in psych), and a small
|> handful have had master's degrees. Advanced degrees are for those who are
|> serious about research. If you can't make it in research, don't think that
|> industry wants you.
|> 
|> >Added dislaimer: Of course, it is possible to have a career in AI without a
|> >graduate degree, but it's just not very probable.
|> 
|> Yeah, right. In the past ten years, I've worked with lots and lots of people.
|> They didn't have graduate degrees for the most part, and they have had great
|> careers. In fact, the only person that I've known who has an AI background and
|> is also out of work has a doctorate.
|> 
|> Think about it. PhD => Research or Teaching... Not $$$$$$$$
|> 
|> Lynda
|> -- 

I'll disagree, I also know of people like Lynda. But they are few and
far between. My experience is just like in Grad school the most important
person in your professional life is your boss. In grad school it is called
your advisor. If you have the right boss and I have had good ones, then you
cna do most anything you want, and make it the right thing to be doing. If 
you don't then you have conflicts that have to be resolved. In looking for
an AI position at several large corporations, after leading an AI group of
10 PHDs for 2 years and then being a VP at a neural net company for 2 years
I was told that with my MS/CS I could be a flunky, a highly paid flunky, but
a flunky. I of course couldn't start some research project because I didn't
have a PHD.

Needless to say that might have changed after I started to work there. But
after hearing this story I didn't even want to try.

Gary
From: jarnot@kin.lap.upenn.edu (Kevin J. Jarnot)
Newsgroups: comp.ai
Subject: Looking for example NL parser using lex and yacc
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:15:31 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, Language Analysis Center


I'm looking for a simple NL parser written in lex and yacc.  Does anyone
have a copy, or know where I should look?

Thanks for any help.

Kevin



-- 
Kevin J. Jarnot (jarnot@kin.lap.upenn.edu)      | "The monkey-boys are evil - 
Lead Programmer/Analyst/Keyboardist             | Lord Whorfin is supreme..."
Univ. of Pennsylvania Language Analysis Center  |  
3700 Market St, Suite 202  Phila, PA 19104      |       "Vita Non Jerk"
Newsgroups: comp.ai
From: ferguson@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Ron &)
Subject: Re: Racter!
Reply-To: ferguson@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:06:10 GMT

Bruce Feist (Bruce.Feist@f615.n109.z1.fidonet.org) wrote:
: 
: There's a program called 'TailSpin', which was a legitimate AI effort at Yale
: during the 70's.  It wrote stories about fictional animal characters, based on
: knowledge representation (unlike Racter), was clumsier and much simpler than
: Racter's.  I don't know if source code is available anywhere.
: 
: Bruce
: 
A "micro" version of TaleSpin, which was written by James Meehan, can
be found in *Inside Computer Understanding* by Schank and Riesbeck.  
This book also explains the representational framework used in
TaleSpin (among other programs).  

I'm not sure if the code for the original program is available, but
Meehan's doctoral dissertation, *The Metanovel: Writing Stories by
Computer*, should be available from Yale.

     -Ron
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From: genius@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Myung Choi)
Newsgroups: comp.ai,comp.ai.neural-nets,sci.engr.control
Subject: Re: Booklet "Clearly Fuzzy" by Omron (repost)
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:51:44 GMT
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

I know it may be more trouble, 
but would you please post the entire text including parts
of the OMRON booklet which you originally omitted? These are
of the most interest to me. Also, where might I obtain my own copy of this
booklet? Thanks.			
Newsgroups: comp.ai,comp.ai.shells
From: calistri@oracorp.com (Randy Calistri-Yeh)
Subject: Info wanted: blackboards
Summary: looking for real-time blackboards
Keywords: blackboard, real-time, signal processing
Organization: ORA Corporation
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:45:36 GMT


We are looking for information on any commercial or public-domain
blackboard architectures that would be appropriate for real-time
signal-processing applications.  This will be used in a fielded system,
not for prototype development.  Also, if anyone has any case studies or
anecdotes about actual experiences with blackboard systems, we would be
interested in hearing about them.

______________________________________________________________________

			==> Randy <==

Randy Calistri-Yeh            calistri@oracorp.com
ORA Corporation               (607) 277-2020
301 Dates Dr.       	      Fax: (607) 277-3206
Ithaca, NY 14850-1313         
______________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.ai
From: stas@netcom.com (Stanislav Malyshev)
Subject: Re: Grad school comments
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:42:54 GMT

In article <2B0917E4.DC7@deneva.sdd.trw.com> shrdlu@willow.sdd.trw.com (Lynda L. True) writes:
>
>Yeah, right. In the past ten years, I've worked with lots and lots of people.
>They didn't have graduate degrees for the most part, and they have had great
>careers. In fact, the only person that I've known who has an AI background and
>is also out of work has a doctorate.
>
>Think about it. PhD => Research or Teaching... Not $$$$$$$$
>

One should make a distinction between being a qualified researcher in, say,
AI, and "having a great career" in some company that does AI-related things.

Some MBA who'd taken an intro to AI course in school, and who is climbing
up the corporate command structure, is still a marketroid, as such is
useless to society, and is NOT having a great career in AI though he
may be a pencil pusher for an AI department.

-S
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