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From: lbroda@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Larry Broda)
Subject: Tape up your nails
Summary: tape nails to preserve them.
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:02:41 GMT
Keywords: Russell, tape

I audited a David Russell master class last night, and got an
interesting nail tip.  

When practicing a lot on the base strings or practicing rasquedos,
Russell puts packing tape over his nails to reduce the wear.  This is
not the paper kind, but the plastic/mylar stuff which is rather thin,
dirty yellow-beige in color and obnoxious to work with (in my
experience), though once you get it stuck on the box it's pretty good.
Russell said this tape holds up better than any other kind he has tried.

In response to skepticism from the audience on being able to play this
way, Russell pulled a piece of the tape off his guitar case (where it
was holding down a loose latch), cut it to size, and applied it to one
of his nails.  You could not tell it was there!  Only with careful
listening could you discern an occasional string noise from the tape,
and Russell said that was only because it was an old wrinkled piece.

Note that the tape is cut very small and applied under and over the
nail only, not the entire finger.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
From: markc@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU ()
Subject: Re: Recuerdos de la Alhambra (Was Re: Yepes)
Organization: school of Mathematics UNSW
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 05:15:16 GMT

Am I alone here in thinking the Recuerdos de la Alahambra is one
of the most boring pieces of music ever written for the guitar? My own
teacher, who is also a performer and has played this piece in an ABC
radio broadcast, half seriously suggests the Recuerdos should be banned
from the repetoire for at least 20 years! I think this is wrong. It 
should be 50 years. Another friend who is a teacher and performer, and
who is doing a PhD on twenteth century guitar music, once remarked that
playing of this piece in public should be punishable by death. Perhaps
a slight overreaction. The root of the problem is that there is much
better music around than an old warhorse like the Alahambra, yet 
performers and amateurs constantly rehash it and others like it. Why?
How about a discussion of some more substantial music. What do people
out there in netland think of Tippet's Blue Guitar and Eliot Carter's
Changes? as two examples?

Mark C.


Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
From: seifert@netcom.com (Rich Seifert)
Subject: Re: String Recommendations?  (No Augustines, please...)
Organization: Networks & Communications Consulting
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:12:36 GMT

In article <1jvn1tINNstq@crcnis1.unl.edu>, mpaul@unl.edu (marxhausen paul) writes:
> 
> What do you like for strings on your classical guitar?  For some unfathomable
> reason, what used to be a fair selection of classical strings in the music
> stores here in Lincoln has dwindled to Augustines or nothing.
> 

While it is definitely a matter of taste, the guitar they are going on,
and the type of music you play, I have been using the Savarez Alliance
High Tensions for a year or two now, and love them. They are very
crisp and clear on the trebles, and the basses have a WONDERFUL
rich sound. The only drawback I hav found is that the basses lose
their richness rather quickly. They are noticeably different in a 
few days, and have to be replaced about every 2 weeks. This will
vary with the amount you play- I am on the instrument 3-4 hours a
day.

To couch the recommendation, I have a spruce-top guitar that is already
pretty bright by itself, and play Renaissance and Baroque music almost
exclusively. (Which is why I haven't said anything in the looong-running
Recuerdos controversy--Tremolo? In the Renaissance?)

I have tried the Extra-High tension (Blue card) Alliance and found them
to be dead. You can't make them buzz, but you can't make music with
them either. 

Your mileage will vary. 



-- 
Rich Seifert                    Networks and Communications Consulting
seifert@netcom.com              (408) 996-0922
                                (408) 996-2860 FAX
"... specialists in Local Area Networks and Data Communications systems"
From: wack@ariel.ncsl.nist.gov (John Wack)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Re: Performance precedents
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:44:51 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: National Institute of Standards & Technology

In article <1993Jan25.152605.17007@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> ihrj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>
>Another person who has an obvious dislike for Segovia is Shearer. This is
>entirely second hand and speculative, because I have never met Aaron Shearer,
>but I did read a newspaper feature on him once, while I was in Raleigh, NC,
>and my teacher there was one of Shearer's students. From what I understand,
>Segovia was very dismissive of Shearer's pedagogical efforts. However, the
>downside of this is that Shearer's student (my former teacher) would dismiss
>Segovia as a terrible player, not worth listening to, etc. Since all I had
>at that time were recordings of Segovia from the 50's and 60's, I tended to
>agree with him. Of course the thing to do is to get hold of the early 
>recordings (1925-1939) which are absolutely extraordinary. Most people who
>speak highly of Segovia have never heard them (and seem to be victims of
>record company/media hype !).
>

My former instructer was a student of Shearer's (and Barrueco) and I got
much the same attitude from her towards Segovia.  I'll have to admit that
I often overreact when I hear picky criticism of various guitarists as a
result of listening to her diatribes on Segovia and others - I felt her
criticism was vastly unfair and self-serving.  Perhaps Shearer's criticisms
influenced both our teachers and I think that you are right to point out
Segovia's early recordings as evidence that he was truly a great
guitarist.  Although I think, imho, that there are a number of guitarists
today that could beat the pants off Segovia at his best, I also believe
that Segovia was a "man of his time" and has to be judged in that light.
He was really THE classical guitar player of his day, without dispute,
and probably found it easy to develop quite an ego with regard to his
way of playing guitar.  I don't really know that my instructor's 
"sniping" was really from Shearer or just her personality - from what
I've read of Shearer, he seems above that.

I've always wondered why Barrios was never as well-known as his talent
merited.  When you consider his playing ability, his compositions, 
transciptions, and spontaneity, it seems that he had it all over Segovia.
My instructor says that Segovia saw Barrios as a threat and didn't care
to promote him, which would seem strange behavior from someone who wanted
so much to elevate the voice of the classical guitar.  Is there much
truth to this story?

-John Wack


Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
From: lbroda@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Larry Broda)
Subject: hoof-flex for humans
Summary: using hoof-flex
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 06:45:09 GMT
Keywords: nails

A while back somebody mentioned the possible use of the product "Hoof
Flex", apparently intending to protect horse's hoofs from cracking, as
a nail strengthener.  I've come across this product and am considering
trying it.  Has anybody else tried this or heard of anybody trying it?
Mainly I don't want to try anything that might turn out to be harmful.

I'm thinking I'll put it in my left hand or maybe even my toenails
first for a week or so before risking my right hand nails.
From: basinski@biosci.arizona.edu (Mark Basinski)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Re: David Russell
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:44:44 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.classical.guitar
Organization: Univ. of Arizona

In article <C17oFr.EA7@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, lbroda@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Larry
Broda) wrote:
> 
> I'm auditing a master class by David Russell next week.  Though I've
> read a lot of good stuff about him, I've never heard him live or on
> recordings.  Unfortunately, he is only giving the class, no
> performance.  
> 
> Can people who are more familiar with Russell offer some
> opinions/comments on this guitarist?
> 
  David is without question one of the finest musicians around. He is one
of the few people I put in the same class as Barrueco (though his
personality
and style of playing are quite distinct). David is just about the best
at doing a master class ( and I've been to MANY; I'd only rate Jose Tomas
better, and then only on his good days). His performances are a joy to
experience. And he's a hell of a nice guy.
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Mark Basinski      Internet: basinski@biosci.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
From: M23231@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Re: Who know this Song ?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:46:23 GMT

In article <1k0lujINNse1@rs2.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
montag01@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (rainer montag) writes:
 
>
>
>Can anybody tell me,what "Song" this is ?
>I only know the Beginning on the higher Strings ...
>
>It goes like that:
>
>
>e |7---7---7---|7---5---3---|3---2---0---|-0---3---7---|12-----
>B |-0---0---0--|-0---0---0--|-0---0---0--|--0---0---0--|--0----   and so on ...
>G |--0---0---0-|--0---0---0-|--0---0---0-|---0---0---0-|---0---
>D |------------|------------|------------|-------------|-------
>
>
>I know , it's a "classic" ,but send Answers to :
>
>rainer montag
>montag01@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de
>
>or to this Newsgroup
>
>TNX !!
This is Romanza d' Amor (Anonymous)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
From: jdalin@devildog.att.com (Jimmy Dalin)
Subject: Re: hoof-flex for humans
Keywords: nails
Organization: AT&T IMS - Piscataway, NJ (USA)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:33:57 GMT

In article <C1CIrA.HA@news.cso.uiuc.edu> lbroda@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Larry Broda) writes:
>A while back somebody mentioned the possible use of the product "Hoof
>Flex", apparently intending to protect horse's hoofs from cracking, as
>a nail strengthener.  I've come across this product and am considering
>trying it.  Has anybody else tried this or heard of anybody trying it?
>Mainly I don't want to try anything that might turn out to be harmful.
>
>I'm thinking I'll put it in my left hand or maybe even my toenails
>first for a week or so before risking my right hand nails.

This question comes up sporadically.  The simple answer is that there is no
known product that will make your nails stronger, or at least none that have
been proven to do so scientifically.
-- 
Jim Dalin            "No Salga Afuera"  
AT&T                    N.Y.C.T.A.
ATTMail id: !jdalin            
Compuserve: 72260,1573 
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
From: beascoea@colossus.cs.rpi.edu (Alex Beascoechea)
Subject: Re: Who know this Song ?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:48:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.030344.28671@nuscc.nus.sg> sci40027@nusunix1.nus.sg (HO CHOO LIANG) writes:
>It's <Romance de Amor>. (sp?)
>
I thought it was Romance Anonimo (also known as Juegos Prohibidos).

-- 
----------------- Alex Beascoechea -----------------
alex@ecse.rpi.edu beascoea@cs.rpi.edu beasca@rpi.e
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From: Benjamin.M.Brainard@dartmouth.edu (Benjamin M. Brainard)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Re: String Recommendations?  (No Augustines, please...)
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:08:14 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

For strings, I always use La Bella recording strings.  They're a little
bit more expensive than others, but you can probably buy them in bulk
(as I do) for a better deal.  They're hard to find, and I actually had
to order a box of them from my local music store, because they didn't
want to stock them (too expensive?).  At any rate, they are wonderful
strings, very smooth, and because they are recording strings, they
aren't as....scratchy...as the concert strings.  I have used them in
concert, however, as if your guitar is relatively loud the strings
won't necessarily make a huge difference.
The string package says they are made by E & O Mari in the USA.  The
package number is 413P, and they're called 'professional recording
strings'
Good Luck!
B
006@dartmouth.edu
From: mpaul@unl.edu (marxhausen paul)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Re: hoof-flex for humans
Date: 25 Jan 1993 03:26:02 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: unlinfo.unl.edu
Keywords: nails

When I got serious about studying classical guitar a couple years back
(after about a 15 year hiatus spent on other guitar styles - pity my
poor, frustrated teacher!!!), I started fussing over my nails, trying all
the "stuff" I used to lavish on them - "nutrients", taking gelatin capsules,
ultra-hard nail polishes, etc.  As an electronics tech my work tends to
beat up my nails and I wanted to protect them.

Well, it was strange, but the more I tried to protect, pamper, and cherish
my nails, the more I had them crack, tear, and in other sundry ways 
screw up on me.  In the time since then, I blew off all my extra efforts
and LET THEM ALONE, except of course to keep them trimmed and/or filed
appropriately, and I had much better results - they seem quite durable
now.  I _am_ giving the "Hand and Nails" hand lotion a whirl, since I
have dry skin, but a tip - you can get a Suave version of this that's
much cheaper than Vaseline Intensive Care.  If this turns out to be the
Miracle Answer to A Guitarist's Prayer, I'll let everyone know.

--
paul marxhausen .... ....... ............. ............ ............ .......... 
 .. . .  . . . university of nebraska - lincoln .  . . .. . .  .. . . . . . . .
 .     .    .  .   .     .   .  .    .   .  .   .    .   .  grace .   .    .  . 
   .         .       .      .        .        .      .        .   happens .
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:43:42 CST
From: <U53519@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Re: Name this tune:
 <leblanc.727988267@knuth.mtsu.edu>

In article <leblanc.727988267@knuth.mtsu.edu>, leblanc@knuth.mtsu.edu (Stuart
LeBlanc) says:
>
>>What is the piece in the recent Lexus radio advertisement (I think it
>>is Lexus)  that goes something like
>>AEEEFEDEEEFEDEEEFEDECEBEAEEEFEDEEEFEDEEEFEDEBE...
>>etc? All the notes are the same length and the piece is in the minor.
>>It probably isn't written in A minor, but it's easier to write it out
>>that way.
>
>   DON'T TELL HIM!!!   PLEASE!!!!
>
>Stuart LeBlanc
>Guitar Instructor
>MTSU Dept. of Music
>leblanc@knuth.mtsu.edu
>
           MY LIPS ARE SEALED -- ABSOLUTELY!

 [Or, I'm sure it's the Afro-Cuban lullaby ...]

-- Ray Sparrowe
UIC Department of Management
From: lbroda@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Larry Broda)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: David Russell
Summary: Opinions on David Russell
Keywords: Russel, teaching
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:59:49 GMT
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology

I'm auditing a master class by David Russell next week.  Though I've
read a lot of good stuff about him, I've never heard him live or on
recordings.  Unfortunately, he is only giving the class, no
performance.  

Can people who are more familiar with Russell offer some
opinions/comments on this guitarist?

--
Larry Broda
Dept. of Psychology
Univ. of Illinois at Champaign-Urbana
lbroda@s.psych.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Saturday, 23 Jan 1993 09:47:19 EST
From: John Hassler <HASSLER@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Re: Recuerdos de la Alhambra (Was Re: Yepes)
 <1jhtngINNm4m@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
 <basinski-200193173022@lully.biosci.arizona.edu>
 <1993Jan23.004108.11035@netcom.com>

In article <1993Jan23.004108.11035@netcom.com>, kent@netcom.com (Kent Crispin)
says:
>
>If there is anything worse than being an insulting asshole, it's being an
>insulting asshole who is also right.  Don't you agree?
>
>Kent
>
     My wife says that I won't admit it when I make a mistake.  I think
that's really unfair.  I'm sure that I would.
j
From: leblanc@knuth.mtsu.edu (Stuart LeBlanc)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Re: hoof-flex for humans
Keywords: nails
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:23:17 GMT
Organization: Dept of Comp Science, Middle Tenn State Univ, Murfreesboro, TN
NNTP-Posting-Host: knuth.mtsu.edu

>A while back somebody mentioned the possible use of the product "Hoof
>Flex", apparently intending to protect horse's hoofs from cracking,
>as a nail strengthener.  I've come across this product and am
>trying it.  Has anybody else tried this or heard of anybody trying it?
>Mainly I don't want to try anything that might turn out to be harmful.
>I'm thinking I'll put it in my left hand or maybe even my toenails
>first for a week or so before risking my right hand nails.

I believe this is what Adam Holzman uses, and he has *major* nail wear
problems.  Other products I've heard recommended:

  - Formaldeyde.  Swab it on once a week and it supposedly hardens your
nails.  One of my students does this, but the increased hardness is
apparently accompanied by increased brittleness, so although day-to-day
wear is reduced, the nail chips more easily.

  - Onymyhrre Cosmetics "Peue de Peche".  A nail-hardening preparation
used by professional manicurists.  Some people have found this helpful.

  - Acrylic nail surfacing.  This is done either by a manicurist
(better, but more expensive) or by yourself with a home kit.  Basically
it consists of coating the entire surface of the nail with an acrylic
solution which hardens and is nearly indestructible.  since the entire
nail is coated, it grows out with the nail itself and need be redone
only periodically.  Although this will definitely solve your wear
problems, many have found the playing characteristics of this to be
unsatisfactory, both from the "cumbersome" feeling of the increased nail
thickness and the "clacky" tone that is produced by the *very* hard
acrylic surface.

Stuart LeBlanc
Guitar Instructor
MTSU Dept. of Music
leblanc@knuth.mtsu.edu
From: radams@cerritos.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Re: String Recommendations? 
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:40:21 PST
Followup-To: rec.music.classical.guitar
Organization: Cerritos College, Norwalk CA

In article <27JAN199315325127@meena.cc.uregina.ca>, 
brownww@meena.cc.uregina.ca (BROWNWW) writes:

>> I use D'Addario Pro Arte J44s (ultra high tension). The trebles are
>>touted as being "laser-selected" i.e. very carefully calibrated sizing -
>> [...]
>>Mark Basinski      Internet: basinski@biosci.arizona.edu
> 
> I also agree strongly that the D'Addario Pro Arte's are excellent.
> I use the J45 (normal tension) and think they sound very good.  I can not
> afford to change my strings more than once a month, so when I buy them in
> boxes, I appreciate the long shelf-life, too.
> 

I have been using D'Addario Pro Arte J46's (high tension) which seem perfect
for my Mattingly (1980) so I guess that between us, we have endorsed nearly the
whole line of D'Addario Pro Arte strings. I have no affiliation with anyone who
sells strings but I do know of a way to get strings through the mail (in sets
or basses only) at very reasonable rates (about half of normal retail price)
I am not promoting anyone's business (although I am a happy customer) and
I don't care where anyone gets their strings, but I can reply via email to
anyone interested. I think this person advertises in the GFA soundboard so most
of you probably know of it or some better source for getting strings.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
	Roger Adams
	radams@cerritos.edu               To those in whom love dwells,
	Cerritos College                  the whole world is one family.
	11110 Alondra Blvd                             A Hindu Proverb
        Norwalk, California 90650
	USA        		          293 Dwapara :-)
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From: nichael@bbn.com (Nichael Cramer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Re: Recuerdos de la Alhambra (Was Re: Yepes)
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:50:29
Organization: BBN, Interzone Office
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	<basinski-200193173022@lully.biosci.arizona.edu>
	<1993Jan22.051516.6547@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>
	<C19LHF.AoE@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
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NNTP-Posting-Host: kariba.bbn.com
In-reply-to: lbroda@s.psych.uiuc.edu's message of 22 Jan 93 16:51:13 GMT

lbroda@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Larry Broda) writes:
   I think this is too harsh, but I'd vote for a ban on *recording* the
   piece.  It suffers horribly from overexposure,

I'd noticed this too.  But I always thought the piece had the mystique
of being something of a rite of passage, like a qualifying exam.  Sort
of: "See, I can do this and do it well, so now I'm officially one of
the Big Kids."

Rather a sine non qua; playing the piece in and of itself doesn't make
one a Good Guitarist, but no Good Guitarist can't do it.

   ... For example, in the
   hands of somebody like Yepes, I'd say your right... it is one of the
   most boring pieces imaginable.

Boo!  Hiss!

N
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
From: wbrown@nyx.cs.du.edu (William Brown)
Subject: Seeking Handel, Canonico
Summary: Seeking them...
Keywords: Handel, Canonico
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 06:23:31 GMT

Hello! This is a great group.  I have been reading it since it first began
last fall.  Lots of interesting stuff.  (I think I'll go and play 'Recuerdos'
after I'm done here :-) :-)   )

I am seeking a couple of pieces of music.  I'm looking for Benito Canonico's
piece 'Totumo de Guarenas' (recorded by Liona Boyd-Highlights-A&M 1989)

And I'd like the _John Williams_ arrangement of Handel's Harmonious Blacksmith
if it is available. (Guitars Greatest Hits-John Williams, Guitar, CBS Master-
works, 1989) I know there are a variety of Blacksmith around, but the few I've
seen so far have not been that enticing. IMHO.  The Williams' arrangement is
superb, I think.  I have an account with Guitar Solo in SanFrancisco, and so
have tried there.

Can anyone tell me where I might order these? Or maybe someone has them, and
we could work something out? (please email)

Thanks for any info!

Bill Brown -
BTW if anyone remembers, or cares, I got my unix account back (brownw@hercules.
cs.uregina.ca)  except we can't post from there... :-(

Please email or post if others are interested, as I read this group daily.
Thanks again!
----
--
Bill Brown                      wbrown@nyx  ||  brownww@meena.cc.uregina.ca
My girlfriend won't smoke after sex. She says *one* drag a night is enough.
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From: M23231@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Re: Name this tune:
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:41:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.131712.19746@husc15.harvard.edu>
blom@husc15.harvard.edu writes:
 
>
>What is the piece in the recent Lexus radio advertisement (I think it is Lexus)
>that goes something like AEEEFEDEEEFEDEEEFEDECEBEAEEEFEDEEEFEDEEEFEDEBE... etc?
>All the notes are the same length and the piece is in the minor.  It probably
>isn't written in A minor, but it's easier to write it out that way.
>
I believe you are referring to the piece played by Manuel Barrueco while riding
in the back seat of the Lexus(?).  It is Asturias...an old war horse.
 
Jerry L.