HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hcheng@Auspex.COM (Howard Cheng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: PageMaker 4.2 & MS Word 5.0 -- Can They Get Along?
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:59:44 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

In article <4326@equinox.unr.edu> zhimin@unssun.nevada.edu (Zhimin Chen) writes:
>I found recently that PageMaker 4.2 doesn't important files from Word 5.0
>nor does it from WordPerfect 2.0. What's the problem with PageMaker?
>The READ ME file included in PageMaker says that the 4.2 version was 
>released before Word 4.0 was shipped, and suggests that fast-save option
>be turned off, which may solve the problem. But it doesn't! 
>
>Does anyone have come up with a solution? Suggestions will be appreciated.

There is now a Word 5.0 import filter available at sumex-aim.stanford.edu.
Get that and all your Word documents will come out fine in PM. Enjoy.

h.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie)
Subject: Re: Extension to inhibit superimposition of startup icons?
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:02:20 GMT

IconWrap does not completely solve the problem of superimposed icons. At least
not on my SE/30.

smittie
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: daves@bluemoon.rn.com (David E. Scott)
Subject: Re: Mac PC Exchange, AccessPC & DOSMounter
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 19:01:25 EDT

tjc@castle.ed.ac.uk (A J Cunningham) writes:
> Tony Cunningham, Insignia Solutions. 				   tjc@ed.ac.uk
> Yes, I carry a grudge. If someone pokes me in the eye, I'll poke both of
> their eyes. larry@psl.nmsu.edu (Larry Cunningham)

Geesh! I know a Larry Cunningham here in Columbus Ohio - I wonder if he's 
a relative?

sig: Quantum Mechanics have smaller tools
        and don't really know where they are...
From: bk1a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Bryan Michael Kearney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: copy protection/licensing solution?
Date: 12 Aug 92 12:01:55 GMT
 <mwalker-110892145014@mwalker1.npd.provo.novell.com.>
	<1992Aug12.171307.16347@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Organization: Junior, IM - MCS/CIT Track, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

In article <mwalker-110892145014@mwalker1.npd.provo.novell.com.>
mwalker@novell.com (Mel Walker) writes:
 
> Unless the password was distributed to all who had a pirated copy. What's
> to stop me from recieving the password at work, and taking it home to
> unlock my pirated copy. (Purely a hypothetical case!!!!!)


If you read the agreement then you would know that a copy at home is not
considered pirated. There is a 80/20 clause that states if you do 80
percent of your computer work at the office then you are allowed to have
a copy for home use which would constitute the additionaly 20 percent.

-- bk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com>
Subject: Re: Mac PC Exchange, AccessPC & DOSMounter
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 13:18:16 EDT
Organization: The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6BA9E16A6027110@via.ccb4.merit.edu>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 21 Aug 92 13:20:22 GMT

In article <9RuTPB1w165w@bluemoon.rn.com> David E. Scott,
daves@bluemoon.rn.com writes:
>While you're looking for responses, do you happen to have any
information 
>about a way to convert a Mac file downloaded from America Online to a
DOS 
>disk so that it becomes a Mac file on a Mac disk?  I tried just that
with 
>the self-extracting archives for updating AutoDoubler and DiskDoubler,
but 
>was unable to convert the resulting DOS disk files to anything usable on 
>the Mac. 

The AOL DOS software does not do a MacBinary download like the AOL Mac
software. So the DOS file you have is what you need--you just have to
change it from binary to Macbinary. How to do that depends on the
software you have on hand; MacLink Plus will do it, and there is a public
domain AFE translator to do it as well at sumex.  Sumex also has a
utility called unfolder to do it in one fell swoop.

Jeff
From: v065hjku@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jason Osborne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Grammer Checkers:which one?
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:16:00 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

>I need to buy a grammer checker.  I'm looking for recommendations.
>I use MacWrite II on a classic II, system 7.  I need it for my
>Masters classes and my kids need something for school papers.

When the Mac* magazines reviewed all grammar checkers recently (last summer?)
they decided that COrrect Grammar was the best.  I tried out a couple
and agreed.  Unfortunately, the best still had problems.  For most
applications, it was a very good program and I heartily recommend it.
However, for scientific writing it lacked a lot of finesse.  It could
not correctly interpret simple statistical notation, for example, even 
when set for scientific mode.  

______________________________________________________________________________
Jason Osborne | Disclaimer: Who'd listen to me anyway?
______________________________________________________________________________
For information on the Underground Phont Archive, drop me a note via email
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: whitmore@iastate.edu (Kurt D Whitmore)
Subject: Re: Cross-products in Mathematica 1.1, how?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:14:32 GMT

In <~3@byu.edu> parkj@bones.et.byu.edu (john r park) writes:

>I'm using Mathematica 1.1 and I can't for the life of me
>figure out how to tell M_ to take a cross-product.  Dot
>product is in the index but I can't find cp mentioned
>anywhere.  Help!
>-- 
>#include <std_disclaimer.h>

>John R Park                |  Dept of Mech. Engineering
>parkj@bones.et.byu.edu     |  Brigham Young University

There is a newsgroup called 	sci.math.symbolic	that is more appropriate for your question.

Here is your answer though:

Type	<<Cross.m	(go to the LinearAlgebra folder if it doesnt find it)


there is also Vectors.m as well.

Open the file itself via the open command if you want to see the structure of the Mma commands contained within. This is from version 1.2-->2.1 I dont know about 1.1, it may not have it.

-- 


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Kurt D. Whitmore       whitmore@iastate.edu       Iowa State University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Subject: Re: copy protection/licensing solution?
Originator: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:39:54 GMT

@ksr.com (John F. Woods) writes:

   If the company goes out of business, the program will expire itself with no
   recourse.  If the program keeps my data in a proprietary format, I could lose
   my data.  Why should it be necessary to pay for an unnecessary service?  I
   won't buy that program.  (And yes, I routinely pay for software.)

   At least this concept is useful for further exploring the moral bankruptcy of
   the "license" idea.



Excuse me, I think pay-for-use is JUST the way to go, just
like radio stations when airing songs. Of course you would
buy the software even if you have to pay every year:

Let's say your WP costs $300. Then, since the WP manufacturer
plays a lot of "clever" tricks, it breaks every 2 years, and
you need to upgrade, at $100 a pop. What's different in
paying $100, yearly, instead ? Table it:

Year	Cost	Cost
1	300	100
2	300	200
3	400	300
4	400	400
5	500	500
6	500	600
7	600	700
8	600	800

As you see, the initial cost is really cheap, and it's not
unti lyear 6 that the other path is cheaper; however, that's
not counting interest, and if you don't like the product
after the first year, you're out $100 instead of $300.

-- 
- I have decided that it is not boxes but my lack of skill that's the problem.
- Traitor! This kind of attitude will get you nowhere around here. If you must
  know, it's not your boxes that are the problem, it's your lack of a
  sufficient number of boxes. Go out and buy something.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: armand@comm.mot.com (Arman Dolikian)
Subject: Re: Comments on Miracle Piano teaching system
Organization: Motorola LMPS STC
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:51:12 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps

In article <56961@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, dckim@mentor.cc.purdue.edu wrote:
> 
> 
> 	  Has anyone used Miracle, one of those piano teaching system, for
> 	  Macintosh. I am thinking of getting me one but I would like
> 	  to hear other comments of it.
> 

I bought a Miracle keyboard (the Nintendo version, not the Mac version),
and was impressed with what you get for your money.  It's a great way of
deciding whether you are musically inclined (or have the patience to 
practice) enough to go for more formal training.  In our case (and my
daugthers'),  they decided they were NOT so inclined.  Money wasted?

No....  Beats spending thousands of dollars on a piano that becomes a
piece of unused "furniture".  Also,  as a MIDI keyboard, its fun to play
with.  The sound is not all that bad, especially when piped into a 
stereo amp.

On a related topic,  does anyone know if the Mac cable and software is
sold separately?  I no longer have a working Nintendo....

Would anyone like to swap?

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From: stanger@otago.ac.nz (Nigel Stanger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: MacWrite II : Automatic Stationery Format ?
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:57:07 GMT
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

knguyen@emr1.emr.ca (Kim Nguyen) writes:
> According to the document, I create an Automatic Stationery file called
> "MacWrite II Options" as my default setting, and put it in System Folder.
> Upon opening, it just gives me the standard format. Again, I put "MacWrite
> II Options in Preferences Folder, but to no avail.

Try putting it in the same folder as the application.

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Nigel Stanger,                  Internet: stanger@otago.ac.nz
University of Otago,            Phone: +64 3 479-8179
Dunedin, NEW ZEALAND.           Fax:   +64 3 479-8311
Abort, Retry, Fail?
From: dan@cssc-woll.tansu.com.au (Dan Cunningham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: DictionaryandThesaurus
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:07:18 GMT
Organization: Customised Software Solutions Centre, Wollongong, Australia

Does anyone know of any Dictioary/Thesaurus packages available.

I am looking for more than just a spell checker. I want an application that will spell check a given word and provide its meaning in dictionary mode and provide alternate words in thesaurus mode.
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.apps:13326 comp.sys.mac.system:10995
From: mirsky1@husc8.harvard.edu (David Mirsky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: clipboard appender?
Date: 15 Aug 92 03:07:07 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

Hello. I am wondering if there is a system extension which
allows you to append text to the text already in the clipboard.
Any info is appreciated. 
 
Thanks
David
mirsky1@husc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: owen@olympus.arc.nasa.gov..arc.nasa.gov (Owen S. Nishioka)
Subject: Re: FETCH and GIF Weather Maps?
Organization: Nasa-Ames Research Center
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 22:25:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.215727.17299@tandem.com> David Brady <Brady_David@Tandem.Com> writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.004531.24026@riacs.edu> Owen S. Nishioka,
>owen@olympus.arc.nasa.gov..arc.nasa.gov writes:
>>In article <1992Aug12.180610.15566@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>
>artis@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu 
>>(David A. Artis) writes:
>>>I read in one of the alt.pictures groups about GIF weather maps,
>updated 
>>>hourly, available at FTP site vmd.cso.uiuc.edu (you have to tell Fetch
>to 
>>>change working directory to wx).  I got into the site ok, and tried 
>>>dowloading a few examples, using "binary".  However, I've not been able
>to 
>>>get any of the files to display with any of several Mac GIF viewers-
>each 
>>>says the file is damaged or in an invalid format.  A friend on an IBM
>PC 
>>>downloaded the same files and had no problem displaying them with his
>GIF 
>>>viewer. Any ideas?
>>
>>I have done this without any problems.  However, make sure you have
>>switched to BINARY or IMAGE mode before transferring.  Also, disable
>>MacBinary.
>
>Seeing the above prompted me to try to look at the pictures myself.  I
>couldn't get it to work either.   Here's what I did:
>
>1) In Fetch I switched to binary and taught it about my viewer.
>2) Downloaded - no problem.  It even shows up with a pretty GIFf icon.
>3) Tried to view it - viewer said "Can't decode as a GIF file"
>4) Checked to see if Imagery could do anything with it - "Incompatible
>File Format or Damaged File"
>5) Stuck.
>
I don't know if this will help anybody, but the server over there seems
to be really flaky.  For example, I would type "bin" and it would tell
me that it was an unknown command.  On the fourth of fifth try, it would
say "File type set to IMAGE for transfer".  The same thing would happen
on "get".  The first couple of tries, it would either not respond or
would tell me "could not open file" "file unavailable" or something
along those lines - then on the third  or so try, it would suddenly
work.  I have no idea as to why it happens, only that it does.

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From: Paul.Conaway@p22.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Conaway)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: WordPerfect quits unexpectedly, Error 1
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 14:08:57 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.22 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

On 8/6/92, John Zic writes: 

  JZ> From: johnz@vast.unsw.edu.au (John Zic) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
  JZ> Organization: none
  JZ> 
  JZ> OK, I am about to dismiss WordPerfect 2.1.1 from my PowerBook 170
  JZ> because (ever since I upgraded to version 2.0) it quits unexpectedly
  JZ> (with a Error 1) with regular monotony.  Before it is put into the
  JZ> bit-bucket and revert to using something else (like OzTeX!!), I would
  JZ> appreciate any clues as to what to do about the unexpected quitting.
  JZ> The WordPerfect support people here are stumped.
  JZ> 
  JZ> I doubt that there are an init conflicts (sorry, extension conflicts)
  JZ> since I have only the "standard" set that Apple distributes with the
  JZ> PB170. NO extras whatsoever.
  JZ> 
  JZ> Configuration: PB170 4/40, standard Apple Extensions.
  
John, what do you have Wordperfect set at for memory. Have you tried giving it
more memory than it requires? I'm running Wordperfect on a IIsi with 5 megs
and haven't had problems. And Have you tried reloading it? I had problems with
Canvas 3.0 and the only thing that seemed to fix it was reloading it. I'm also
using Autodoubler and having no prblems with WP. I hope this helps and if you
want anymore suggestions just ask.

Paul


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From: djh@cs.mu.OZ.AU (David Hornsby)
Subject: Re: Problem with Retrospect Remote
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 07:13:36 GMT

Dantz Development Corporation <dantz@igc.org> writes:
>aufs does not fully (properly) emulate the Macintosh OS. Because 
>of this, initial backups work when using Retrospect while incremental 
>backups fail. aufs is simply not emulating all normal Mac calls. 

AUFS complies with the AFP 2.0 specification with the single exception
of client altered passwords (for security and implementation reasons).

AUFS currently provides directory ids that are fixed only for the life
of the server process. The current implementation of the Macintosh
Hierarichal File System uses "fixed dirids" which means that every
directory has a unique id fixed for the lifetime of the file system
and which is never reused. Some applications store this rather than
the path name (since the name may change).

Unfortunately, under UNIX there is no simple mechanism available for
generating consistent directory ids in the manner required. The next
set of CAP patches may, however, contain a workaround.

The current theory is that Retrospect Remote is failing due to the
"fixed directory id" problem. Without a copy of RR, it's difficult
to make a final determination.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Minh Lang <minh@inst-sun1.jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: DOS/Windows Telnet Apps for use with TOPS cards over
     AppleTalk net.
Organization: Jet propulsion Laboratory
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1b2
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:50:53 GMT

In article <neils.714379571@bAARNie> Neil Strong, neils@tafe.sa.edu.au
writes:
>We need a DOS/Windows Telnet Application to run on our DOS/TOPS machines.
>We wish to achieve access to IP via TOPS cards (or compatible cards)
over 
>AppleTalk. We have a Webster Box gateway which is providing the
connection
>for our Macs (using NCSA Telnet 2.5) to the TCP/IP network. Many of our
DOS
>machines are running Windows and therefore would be particularly
interested
>in any Windows solutions.
>
>Please post or send any suggestions or comments to Neils@TAFE.SA.edu.au
>
>Thanks  -   Neil.

I have been using NET, which is developed by Phil Karn (KA9Q) and it's
in public domain. You need a PC/TCP driver for the TOPS card, which is
developed by Katie Stevens of UC Davis, and it's in public domain too.
You can do anonymous ftp to ucdavis.edu to get them. Both
executable and source are available.  NET runs in DOS
text mode and it works great in ftp and telnet. It's a great program.
I have exactly the same configuration as yours: PC with TOPS card
connected to an Appletalk net which goes to a gateway to Internet.

  == Minh ==
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Subject: Re: Look & Feel
Originator: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 13:18:48 GMT

.mv.com> cory@enigami.mv.com (Cory Kempf) writes:

   Something that gave protection for 3-5 years should be sufficient
   in my oppinion.  The company / people doing the development have made
   their money off of the product in that time, and have probably developed
   several new features, etc.

Yes, much like the medicine industry has (I think it's only
2 years there) And, coupled with a decent interpretation of
what construes a major innovation, this might work as a
compromise. (I'd rather see I didn't risk being sued over
something that I independently created)

-- 
- I have decided that it is not boxes but my lack of skill that's the problem.
- Traitor! This kind of attitude will get you nowhere around here. If you must
  know, it's not your boxes that are the problem, it's your lack of a
  sufficient number of boxes. Go out and buy something.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: kam@ddsw1.mcs.com (Kevin Mitchell)
Subject: Re: JPEG decompressor? (Summary)
Keywords: JPEG, JFIF, Viewer
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 02:14:03 GMT
X-Disclaimer:  Material posted in this article is the sole responsibility of
                the poster and does not represent MCSNet or the system owners.

In article <1992Aug14.05921.7335@ms.uky.edu> borders@ms.uky.edu (Johnny Borders) writes:
>No mention of mac.archive? I'm hurt..  '( <sob sob>
>GIFConverter 2.3b1 is on mac.archive.umich.edu in /mac/graphics/graphicsutil
>for those that are interested. So far, I'm somewhat disappointed with it.
>JPEGView 1.1 will decompress JPEGs that GIFConverter gives disk errors on.
>It also won't let you dither JPEG files for preview on black&white Macs
>with QuickTime (JPEGView will). Hrmph. Well, it is just a beta..

I'd be interested in getting examples of JPEGs that GIFConverter can't 
decompress. I decided on QuickTime over the publicly available JPEG source
because it allows for the transparent use of hardware compression cards,
not to mention keeping the code small(er).

I've heard that Apple intends to make QuickTime work on non-color Macs.
When it does, GIFConverter will be able to work with JPEG files on them,
too.

I have been sending GIFConverter to macgifts@mac.archive.umich.edu, and
I know that gets to sumex-aim.stanford.edu, too, so it gets to the
more popular archives.

Keep those bug reports coming! I'm planning on releasing b2 this weekend,
which will fix the infamous works-on-system-7-only bug. (The one where you
get a program error on startup).

Kevin Mitchell
GIFConverter Author

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: aad35939@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A A DeGuzman)
Subject: Looking for app to run DA's under System 7
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:21:06 GMT

I'm looking for an app to install a few (4) DA's to run under System 7.
I found this program on mac.archive.umich.edu called DASh, but it opens all
of the DA's when launched. I basically want the equivalent of DA Handler
(from Multfinder - System 6) - just a File and Edit menu. If anyone knows of
such an app, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

-- 
Alan A. DeGuzman
Calculus&Mathematica               Hobbes: "Do you believe there is a God?"
DISCLAIMER: "The University        Calvin: "Of course I do. There's someone out
can't afford my opinions."                  to get me!"
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