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From: rjf@gdwb.oz.au (Rex Foord)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Seeking Opinions on Miracle Piano Teacher System (and on piano/keyboard playing in general)
Date: 13 Jan 93 04:22:45 GMT

stubbs@hawk.cs.ukans.edu (Jerry Stubbs) writes:


>Does anyone know how well the MiraclePiano might work with standard MIDI
>programs, especially Band-In-a-Box?

You can get band-in-abox to work with the miracle. Just substitute
the required patch numbers in the midi setup. One problem the miracle
has is in the use of percussion. It has most of the percussion
sounds however they are not all on the same patch. This means that
in most programs which use percussion, you get the choose of one patch
so you only get a subset of percussion sounds.
In band-in-a-box you can choose a percussion patch and then
define the key note numbers for the various instuments. You can only
put the ones allowed on the chosen patch. This isn't all that bad
for basic stuff (ie bass drum, snare cymbals hihat etc are all on the
same patch).


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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: chuckm@canada.hp.com (Chuck Munro)
Subject: Re: WinCake Version
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:57:03 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Canada Ltd, Dartmouth, N.S.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

lawrence lougheed (lawrence.lougheed@rose.com) wrote:
: 
: Date Entered: 12-31-92 16:46
: Is the latest version of Cakewalk for Windows, version 1.03?  Thanks.
: ---
:    OLX 2.2   Internet: lawrence.lougheed@rose.com
:    RoseMail 2.00 : Usenet: Rose Media - Hamilton (416) 575-5363

I just got a copy of wincake yesterday from fresh dealer stock (at least
he _told_ me it was the latest!).  It is Version 1.03.

Hope this helps.

Chuck.

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth,comp.music
From: furio@uiuc.edu (furio ercolessi)
Subject: Re: REPOST: Ensoniq KS-32 (synth vs. dig.piano)
Reply-To: furio@uiuc.edu (furio ercolessi)
Organization: UIUC
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:55:22 GMT

In article <jmw.726460627@tasman>, jmw@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (John Mark Williams) writes:
|>kropf@i80s19.ira.uka.de (ThomasKropf) writes:
|>>At the moment, my prime candidat is the Ensoniq KS-32. However, before I
|>>seriously start thinking about buying one, I would like to get some comments
|>>about comparable products from other companies, feedback from
|>>KS-32 owners (positive and negative) or even general advice concerning
|>>products in-between classical synths/samplers and digital pianos.
|>
|>I've had my KS-32 for about three months now, and I'm pretty happy with it
|>Perfect it's not; the keyboard feels good, the acoustic piano is very good, 
|>and many of the other sounds are great as well. The electric pianos let the
|>instrument down badly. 

I am also pretty happy with it and I agree with the above comments on the pianos.
I must add:
1) after three months, my keyboard is noisier than it was at beginning.
   now two of the white keys make a "knock" sound (i mean, sound in
   the sense of acoustic vibrations straight out in air :-) when vigorously
   hit.  I wonder if eventually all of them will make this noise, causing
   the neighbors to call the police at 3am (the famous Roland A-80 
   problem).
2) some of the sounds have digital noise in it, clearly heard on the lower
   octaves.  This is particularly evident on the vibraphone, which is a pity
   because it's a nice sound.
3) the effects processor also puts there some noise sometimes.  there is
   a "smart" algorithm somewhere in the machine, playing with the gain
   in the attempt of reduce noise.  A sort of poor-man Dolby or DBX.
  As the result you often hear funny oscillations of the noise level.
  I repeat, the source is the effect processor.  Dry sounds are absolutely
  clean (except  for those with the syndrome in 2).

|>It's not a hard instrument to program soundwise, but
|>I haven't gotten very far with the sequencer. When I retire I'm going to
|>build ships in bottles - all these years of programming through a 2x16 LCD
|>interface have got to be good for something!

I gave up.  I won't attempt to program it without a computer and
a sound editor which knows the SQ architecture. Any software 
recommendation?

furio
--
Furio Ercolessi
Materials Research Laboratory           |   Intl School for Advanced Studies
Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign   |   Trieste, Italy
furio@uiuc.edu                          |   furio@sissa.it
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From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Manual for OB DPX-1 needed
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 18:38:40 EST
Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC
Reply-To: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4



I have a friend of mine without access to the net who recently purchased
a used OB DPX-1 sampler and is in need of a manual.

If you have a manual you wouldn't mind photocopying to send him, please
advise me of the cost and I will pass your info on to him.

Thanks in advance!

David
david@roth-music.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: A. Hardin Gray <ahgray@colby.edu>
Subject: For Sale: Sansui 6 Track System
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7747F50BC016802@dnwalkerkip2.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
X-Xxdate: Sat, 9 Jan 93 18:10:40 GMT
Organization: Colby College
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d16
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 18:10:46 GMT

For Sale:
Sansui 12 Input Mixer
    2 FX Send/Returns
    6 Send Faders
    Solo for each channel
Sansui 6 Track Deck
    Uses metal cassettes to record
    Rehearsal mode
    Can be synced with a second deck to make 12 tracks
Sansui 10 Band EQ
 
To be sold as a package ONLY!
The deck isn't quite working, it's been estimated to cost between
$100-$200 to fix.  Everything else is in perfect condition.  All boxes
and manuals included.

Make an offer over $750.
 
All responses by email to
ahgray@colby.edu
or phone
(914) 779-2043 (Until Jan. 30th)
(207) 877-4338 (After Jan. 30th)
Hardin Gray
From: lm011@rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (Alexander Tuchacek)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: VRship Hamburg: Participate
Date: 11 Jan 1993 12:54:53 GMT
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rs1.rrz.uni-koeln.de
Keywords: Send Sounds


Call for international participation in new art/science project.
KNOWBOTIC RESEARCH
Simulation Room -Mosaic of Mobile Sound Data
Hamburg, 5.2 - 20.2.93
We will be showing a VR installation in February at
the MEDIALE93 - Festival for Media Arts and Media Future - in
Hamburg, Germany. The installation, housed in the freight ship Cap
San Diego in Hamburg - harbour, has three main areas.
Section one is a sophisticated, walk - in data - base  utilising a
collection of sound samples from around the world, which will be
used to produce a virtual 'sound room'.  The sound data will
correspond to the second section,  a physical room, where visitors
will be able to navigate through the space with the aid of a mobile
ultrasonic sensor and an artificial eye display and activate the data 
to a realtime-concert.
The action of the visitors, within  this 'virtual organism,' will be
displayedon a video screen shown in a control room area (the third
area).
We welcome your participation for the international sound - data -
base: To participate in this international project we need from you a
6 second long sound sample, a cultural statement, reflecting
your personal attitude towards the "world". Please send this via
email or ftp. (aiff, wave, next formats)
All participants and institutions will be credited in a publicly
displayed database during the exhibition.
For more information by email from: kr+cf@khm.uni-koeln.de
Thank you for your support - KNOWBOTIC RESEARCH

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
From: bruce@pages.com(Bruce Henderson)
Subject: Microwaves (PPG wanabes)
Organization: Banzai Research Institute
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:15:16 GMT

So I just got a Waldorf Microwave.  I must say that it was the best synth  
purchase I have made in a long long time.  I am rather biased, having always  
wanted a PPG when they still were available. 
So rich... So punchy....  So thick

So here is the question...

Anyone know where to get patches? (Like an FTP site or such...)

Thanks in advance
Bruce
bruce@pages.com
Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:19854 rec.music.makers.synth:1137
From: gingeric9178@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: In defense of the FZ-1, and FZ-1 owner search!
Date: 9 Jan 93 14:48:48 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1993Jan9.164126.11003@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (enhanced invisible life [Todd Sines]) writes:
> 
> if $300-400 is a decent price for a FZ-1, then count me in too. i would be very
> interested if there were two FZ-1's on the net for sale... one for nineball and
> one for me...
Well,
   I threw away (of course) the used gear cat that had it for $300 and some
right on the front in big fat letters, but I think it was Daddy's Junky Music.   
Their number is 603-894-6492 and their fax is 603-893-3517.  There is also a
few places that always advertize in the back of Keyboard that buy and sell FZs.

Robert Williams
MANNA-MACHINE
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig)
Subject: What's a good MIDI synth to start out with?
Organization: Starfleet Headquarters: San Francisco
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:00:21 GMT

I'd like to get some MIDI equipment to hook up to my Macintosh, and
I'm curious to know what your opinions are on the best stuff to start
out with.

I'm willing to spend around $400 for a synth keyboard.  (Is there a
difference between a 'synth' and a 'keyboard'?)  I was really
impressed by the Yamaha PSR-400 I found in a Circuit City for $400; I
know it's a "commercial" keyboard instead of a "serious" one, but it
seems that all the "serious" keyboards I find offer fewer features for
more money.  What am I overlooking?

Are there any really good synths you know of in the $400 range?  Are
there any serious drawbacks I should know about with a PSR-400?

Also, what good MIDI notation programs are out there that'll run on a
Mac?  I've heard Finale is great, but for $500+, no thanks... is there
anything worth my time for under $200?  And where can I get a MIDI
interface for my Mac?

-- 
_/_/_/  Brian Kendig                             Je ne suis fait comme aucun
/_/_/  bskendig@netcom.com                de ceux que j'ai vus; j'ose croire
_/_/                            n'etre fait comme aucun de ceux qui existent.
  /  Nolite te bastardes     Si je ne vaux pas mieux, au moins je suis autre.
 /    carborundorum.                                             -- Rousseau
From: strickla@usc.edu (Bryan Strickland)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: For Sale: Roland PC-200 Midi Keyboard
Date: 12 Jan 1993 18:51:23 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


**** Roland PC-200 Polyphonic Midi Keyboard Controller For Sale ****

Specifications:
	- 49 full size, velocity sensitive keys
	- Midi Parameter selection & keyboard sensitivity adjustment
	- Octive Selection: Standard/Up/Down
	- Midi Channel Selection
	- Program Change Selection
	- Volume, Pan Pot & Velocity Selection
	- Pitch Bender/Modulation Lever
	- Ac Adaptor Socket
	- Midi Out Socket

All manuals and original boxes included.
$225 or best offer, buyer pays shipping (UPS blue)

Bryan
email: strickla@usc.edu
	  -or-
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.keyboards,rec.music.makers.synth
From: smj@sdf.lonestar.org (Stephen M. Jones)
Subject: what about a PROPHET mailing list???
Organization: Super Dimension Fortress - Public Access Unix - Dallas, Tx.. 
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 11:46:06 GMT


would anyone like to help in starting a little mailing list for SCI
prophet users?? 

Command brett someone... you talked about 'competition' for wine country..
the Curtis VCO chips that are available from the manufacture for $5.. but
are $65 from WC.... maybe if I get enough email responses.. I will start
a list here...  I would like to get an ORIginal manual for my p600 (neal
howard??) but a photocopy (or even an orig) for $40 is rediculious..

email me with your thoughts

   ___  ___  ___  ___       ___  ___         ___  ___  ___
  /__/ /__/ /  / /__/ /_ / /_    /   ___    /_   /  / /  /
 /    /  \ /__/ /    /  / /__   /          /__/ /__/ /__/  

annoying??  

-- 
Stephen M. Jones (214)436-4622  
smj@sdf.lonestar.org <Cs&E>            sdf.sysadmin 
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
From: jmw@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (John Mark Williams)
Subject: Another General Midi question
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:33:55 GMT

Can anyone who has access to a GM module tell me if the pitch produced for
any given note number is the same for all programs, or are, for example, 
all the bass programs transposed down an octave and all the flutes up an 
octave, such as on my D110.

Thanks,
--
John M Williams, 
School of Health Sciences, University of Tasmania
J.M.Williams@med.utas.edu.au

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: slg@slgsun.att.com (The Idealistic Cynic)
Subject: Where can I get Winjammer?
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Columbus, Ohio
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:03:12 GMT

Where can I get Winjammer?  I thought it was shareware and available
via anonymous ftp, so if I'm wrong let me know.  If it is available
via anonymous ftp, what site?

(I looked for it a wuarchive and tried looking for it using archie
but had no luck.)

Thanks,

Sean.

---
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sean.l.gilley@att.com  <-- USE THIS ADDRESS, ALL OTHERS BOUNCE!
614 236 5031 (h), 614 860 5743 (w)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: cmparris@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (Chris Michael Parrish)
Subject: Help
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:37:03 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Keywords: Help Mac Duo MIDI



  I just got an Opcode MIDI translator for my Mac Duo 230 (running System 7.1) 
and have been slowly working on integrating my computer into my MIDI setup...

 I have a problem though...None of my MIDI programs will recognize the interface unless I have Appletalk active...and if appletalk is active, I have to use the modem port for the interface which means I have to unplug my modem and plug 
the interace in when I want to use it. I've tried MIDI mangler with no help....
 Anyone know what I am doing wrong?


-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
Chris Parrish                        |   
University of Oklahoma               |    "To share is to split..."   
cmparris@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu        |        - KMFDM
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: mbi@qdeck.com (Mark Indictor)
Subject: Tascam 238
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 17:04:41 GMT

I was looking to find some empirical information on the Tascam 238 8-track
Cassette machine.  Those of you out there that have had any experience with this
device, can you enlighten me on its merits and short-comings?  Also, I am
interested in purchasing one of these (and possibly also a rack-mount stereo 
mixdown cassette deck of the same quality, possibly also a Tascam).  What is the
going rate on these units in the used market.  Any information at all would be
appreciated!

Thanks!  

Mark B. Indictor
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Midi orchestra? Does it exist
Date: 9 Jan 1993 18:28:21 GMT
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: spock.dis.cccd.edu

In article <C0JL13.Mx6@encore.com> bseymour@encore.com (Burch Seymour) writes:
>
>I'm looking for a Midi voice box that has a set of decent orchestral
>instrument sounds. I don't care about it being indistinguishable from
>a recording of a real orchestra, but the cheaper keyboards I've
>messed with (Casio, Yamaha) often don't even resemble, in the slightest,
>the sounds they are alleged to be making :-( I can't afford the
>Kurzweil stuff, so that's totally out. But is there something out there
>at a reasonable price, that does a passable job?
>
>I'd also be interested in mail-order sources that have been proven
>to be reliable and reasonably priced.
>
>Thanks,
>
>E-mail if possible to:
>
>-Burch Seymour- bseymour@encore.com
>=======================================================================

PROTEUS 2

However, if you wait untill after January the Alesis 64 voice thing will
be out for under 1k which should kick the crap out of the Proteus's 32 
voices.  But then again, if Alesis is consistent with their vapor ware
you might be waiting an awful long time for the product to ship.  
Either way, anything 32 voices (not partials) or more for under 1k 
is a great deal.

Also, a couple of years ago music stores were blowing out the Kerzweil
modules for $600 new which means they'ed probably be quite cheap if you
could find them used.  Still, getting orchestral sounds and dynamic range
is quite a tall order for someone on a budget.  Good luck.


maurices
From: eh@ranger.enet.dec.com (Eirikur Hallgrimsson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Midi orchestra? Does it exist
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:59:09 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7732BC81B01C0D8@rahab.ljo.dec.com>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 8 Jan 93 13:02:00 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11

>Midi orchestra? Does it exist?

Emu Systems Proteus II Orchestral expander  $800?
Kurzweil Pro-II (or SX/HX with Pro-II upgrade)  discontinued.  used =
$600?

Less amazing, but very cheap: Korg O3 Symphony module.  Less than $200
Try to get the POC-4 Orchestra Pit card with it.  It provides solo horns,
etc.

Eirikur
eh@ranger.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: anssi@lut.fi (Anssi Lensu)
Subject: Yamaha SY55
Summary: Requesting comments on Yamaha SY55 synth
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:17:07 GMT
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland
Keywords: synth Yamaha

Hello!

I'm in need of a good MIDI-compatible synth and have been offered a Yamaha
SY55, which has been in use for about a year. So I would like to know what
is good and what is missing in the SY55? So if you have one or know enough
of it, could you please send me some comments on it.

I'm very interested in the sound quality and possibilities of adding voices
to it. However the MIDI-compatibility is the most important thing since I'm
a computer addict already.

Here are some questions I'd like to get an answer to:

- How many channels multitimbral does it have?
- How many polyphonic voices can it play simultaneously (using MIDI)?
- What kind of FM and sampled (AWM) patches are available in it/for it?
- Are there any limitations that affect the MIDI use?

Thank you very much in advance!

Anssi Lensu
anssi.lensu@lut.fi
From: dbox@valentine.ics.uci.edu (Don Box)
Subject: Re: Recommend Music Workstation ~$2000?
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Reply-To: dbox@ics.uci.edu (Don Box)
Organization: UC Irvine
Date: 11 Jan 93 00:56:55 GMT

In article <9301101240.aa10458@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu> "Ciaran M. Foley" <cfoley@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU> writes:
>In article <pet.726664639@munagin> you write:
>>Hi, I have about $2000-$3000 AU to spend (hopefully!)
>>on synth equipment...
>>

	:
	:
	:

>>
>>Thanks heaps!
>>
>>Morgen das SonnenSystem!
>
>My own .0239482323 cents worth:
>
>	If you're really interested in sampling and synthesis capability,
>the K2000 (rackmount, if you can get your hands on a decent controller)
>is one way to go. ..

I completely agree.  I got one in December and am thrilled with it.

I might add a couple of points:

I talked to Kurzweil a few weeks ago, and the current retail on the
sampling option is $595 for the keyboard version, and slightly (less
than $50) more for the rackmount version, due to some chassis
differences.

Ciaran forgot to mention the new ROM sound blocks that are coming out.
Each block adds an additional 8MB of ROM waveforms, and a K2000 can
use two at a time, giving you up to 24MB ROM.  Each block is $459
retail, and the card that accepts two of them is another $195 or so.

As for price, I payed around $2080 + tax for it because I was in a
hurry.  However, Sweetwater sound is the DEFINITAVE place to buy
Kurzweil products.  They can make one magically appear at your
doorstep the next day, and only charge your credit card $2000!!  I
would have done this, but I really had the itch to buy something that
day.  ;-)

You can contact Sweetwater sound at 219-432-8176.  They also have a
reasonably large sample library for the K2000.

Good luck!!
DB



Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: medwards@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Matt Edwards)
Subject: A few questions
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:24:10 GMT


Hello!  I have a few questions and welcome any opinions about
my gear.
 
1)  Currently, I have a Korg M-1 and a Roland S-50.  I'm running
an old IBM XT (will be replaced with a REAL computer next month) and
Cakewalk V 3.0 (Soon to be cakewalk pro for windows).  My question is
how do I hook up everything so I can run BOTH keyboards with the
sequencer?  Right now I can only get one keyboard to 'talk' to the IBM.
I'm using the simple midi card that came with cakewalk.  Do I need some
kind of midi-box?  Or merger?  Am I just doing the midi in-thru-out wrong??
help!!
 
2)  I spend a lot of time writing my own stuff, but I'm kinda limited
as to what I can do as the M1 is always running out of voices.
I'd like to invest in a rack mounted module of some sort to have more
that 16 notes at a time.  The stuff I write varies from classical
music to stuff similar to They Might Be Giants.  Any suggestions
as to what I should get?  I'm willing to spend <>500$ or so.
Also, if I did get a new sound module, would I need any additional
hardware to get it to talk to the sequencer?  (See #1 above)
 
3)  This isn't really a question:  I've got an old Korg Monoply
keyboard and think it's just about the coolest thing in the world.
Is there any way I could midi-ize it?  Or some way to save patches
short of sampling them?
 
 
Thanks!
 
Ribbit
From: jwilson@msen.com (Jeff Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Looking for Yamaha Clavinova sources
Date: 8 Jan 1993 07:49:43 -0500
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
Summary: Looking for Yamaha Clavinova files, sites and data formats
Keywords: Yamaha Clavinova


I'm looking for music files and programs for the Yamaha Clavinova.

Does anyone know of any ftp sites, catalogs, SIGS, or ? 

I'm also interested in any information regarding the file format for
Clavinova music disks.

Please e-mail any information to me and I will post a summary for
other interested persons.

Thanks up front.

Jeff Wilson
Applied Computer Solutions, Inc.

jwilson@msen.com
Organization: Johannes Kepler University Linz - Computing Center
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 11:11:04 CET
From: Stefan Ratschan <K3067E0@ALIJKU11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Opinion on Korg Poly 800, Roland Juno 60

Does anyone know something about the two following synths:

  Korg Poly 800
  Roland Juno 60

What would be a reasonable price? Who do they sound? Do they have MIDI?
What sound generating facilities do they have?

Thank you|
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth