HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hirai@cc.swarthmore.edu (Eiji Hirai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Fetch/Gopher questions
Date: 10 Nov 92 23:28:01 GMT
Organization: Information Services, Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA

Nathan Harper <harper2@oddjob.uchicago.edu> writes:
> Does anyone know of a way to sort files by date

You can't do it with the current Fetch though it's up to Jim Matthews to
reprogram it if he wants to.

You didn't specify which Gopher client you're running but it doesn't
matter.  Most gopher servers won't give the clients any information about
modification times of the files or directories on the server.  So no changes
on the Macintosh clinet side will fix this.  There exist patches to the Unix
server which will give modification times of the files (our does) but the
formatting is not standardizes and thus, not programmable.

This is really up to the gopher folks at Univ. of Minnesota to decide.

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From: jbrowne@zaphod.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Jim Browne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MacTCP availability?
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:40:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: zaphod.jbrowne.721579221
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

tjfs@tadtec.uucp (Tim Steele) writes:

>Hmm.  So why don't NCSA distribute it with Telnet 2.5?

>Tim

We were planning on distributing it with 2.6 (and dropping our stack).  We
may have to change those plans now.  I don't know at this point.


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--"It's really weird... kind of like how Telnet is programmed." - Q. Koziol --
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From: michaelg@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Michael Greenwald)
Subject: FaxSTF, Modems + questions
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: comp
Date:  9 Nov 92 15:17:52 GMT

Is FaxSTF available for sale, unbundled?  Does it support the
14.4/Fax96 Magic Modem?  (Is there some standard (like "Hayes
compatible") for FAX modem?)  Does the Magic Modem come with FaxSTF,
by any chance?  What software >does< it come with?

If anyone has the answers to these questions, or some of them, I'd
appreciate an email response:

Greenwald@cs.stanford.edu

Thanks,

Michael Greenwald
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Mark Milbourne <milbouma@esvax.dnet.dupont.com>
Subject: Serial Tool with hardware session control
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A72989BEE3035A1C@milbouma.es.dupont.com>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 13 Nov 92 16:35:10 GMT
Organization: Dupont
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 21:33:41 GMT

I'm using VersaTermServer to give Telnet access to an async service. 
Right now I'm using the Serial Tool as the outbound connection from
VersaTermServer to the service.  It works fine except that
VersaTermServer has no way to know when the "session" on the async
service is done so it can drop the inbound Telnet connection.  If we take
the perspective that the Mac is the terminal and the async service is a
modem, the async service drops DSR when a session is finished.  The Mac
asserts DTR when the Serial Tool opens a session.

Is there a way to configure the Serial Tool or Apple Modem Tool to close
the session when DSR drops?   I tried using the Apple Modem Tool, but it
seems to want to send some modem setup strings and ATDT even if the phone
number is blank.  I would assume that the modem tool watches CD/DSR
(usually wired together in the 25 pin to DIN-8 mac modem cables) and
closes a session when this drops.

What I need I guess is the equivalent of the modem tool with no dial
setup or number.  Can one edit the modem choices in the serial tool to
make a "null" modem?

Any suggestions?

Please reply e-mail.  I can never keep up-to-date on all the Mac
newsgroups!

Thanks,
	Mark Milbourne
	milbouma@esvax.dnet.dupont.com
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From: Malcolm Pradhan <pradhan@camis.stanford.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MacTCP license fees & Eudora
Date: 12 Nov 1992 19:27:16 GMT
Organization: Section of Medical Informatics, Stanford University
Distribution: world
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X-XXDate: Thu, 12 Nov 92 19:28:38 GMT

In article <jbrowne.721578952@zaphod> Jim Browne,
jbrowne@zaphod.ncsa.uiuc.edu writes:
>After reading the news and these few posts, I think I'll go cry.  We are
>planning on dropping our stack.  I guess we'll have to take a second look
>at that now.

In article <15903@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au> Paul Big-Ears Menon,
pnm@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au writes:
>On a related note - we received a notice in the mail for our MacX site
>Licence "addendum".  We originally had a one off $US 2,500 (I think)
>fee and a one unit cost for each upgrade (that is - we buy one copy of
>the latest MacX). This addendum now informs us that to upgrade to
>MacX 1.2 and still remain a site lincensee will cost us....
>			
>			$US 25,000!!!!

 Macs are facing increasing pressure at many universities because they
aren't "open", the affordability of MacTCP and MacX have really been the
only arguments against the "open"/unix/X crowd. Apple are really playing
into their hands, this is exactly the kind of thing that gnu-heads whinge
about - I guess I'll have to agree when they say "I told you so..."

 Could someone post the "official" channel for comment/complaint/pleading
to Apple about the ridiculous decisions regarding MacTCP and MacX
licensing. Somehow I don't think Apple will listen but complaints
should be registered.

Regards,
Malcolm
--------------------------------------------
Malcolm Pradhan
Section on Medical Informatics
MSOB X-215, Stanford University, CA, 94305
pradhan@camis.stanford.edu  (415) 725-3398
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: lud@wam.umd.edu ()
Subject: Caller I.D. feature for the Supra
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:44:08 GMT

Has anyone written or know of any special utilities which take advantage
of the Caller I.D. feature of a modem.  For example, a database which looks
up the number and tells the name of the person who is calling...
Anyway, just wondering if anyone has written any utilities for caller id..

Thank you in advance..
(lud@wam.umd.edu)
From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Fetch 2.1
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:02:19 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Amos Tuck School
Disclaimer: I don't represent Dartmouth and Dartmouth doesn't represent me.

In <areich-081192205107@m249-18.bgsu.edu> areich@andy.bgsu.edu (Adam Reich) writes:

>I have tried to use Fetch 2.1 in the computer lab at school but it fails to
>connect.  We are connected to the Internet through our lab, but the program
>wouldn't even open if we weren't.  I would really like to use this program
>but it will not connect anywhere. I would appreciate any help or advice you
>can give.

In my experience Fetch is very reliable but does need to be set up
properly. Do you have MacTCP installed correctly?

-Geoff
--
geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU - Computing Support Consultant, Tuck School of Business

Ren and Stimpy for President!
"Give Ren and Stimpy the power to push the button!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: packer@forum.swarthmore.edu (Asa Packer)
Subject: Re: MacTCP 1.1.1 doesn't lock address
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: The Geometry Forum
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:39:19 GMT

[ I was unable to lock my IP address with AdminTCP 1.1.1 ]

Well, I think my problem was a corrupted copy of MacTCP, since I got
a different copy and now everything works fine.

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The Geometry Forum
Swarthmore College
From: pascal@CAM.ORG (Pascal Gosselin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Network clock sync (without Unix host) ?
Keywords: network clock sync
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:45:01 GMT
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada

I am looking for a utility to synchronize the clocks of multiople
Macs on a network to a server's clock.  I looked at the various Mac FTP
sites and they only seem to have Unix Time clients and the program to synch
to an atomic clock.

I need a 100% Mac-based solution.

-Pascal
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: conti@sissa.it
Subject: PB170-Zterm-Teleport Driver
Organization: Intnl School for Adv Studies
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:45:02 GMT

Hi netters,

here's a big problem (at least for me :-):

Basic ingredients:
			PowerBook 170 8/80
			Zterm 0.9
			Global Village Teleport Driver 2.03 (CDEV)

BIG Problem:

			Zterm term works fine when uploading, but as soon
			as I try to download my machine freezes....
			Sometimes it happens after a while but it always
			happens!!!!!!!! :-(

HELP HELP HELP  !!! !!! !!!

				Alberto Conti


Conti@tsmi19.sissa.it
Conti::SISSA
From: ldh@svl.cdc.com (Lawrence D. Hare)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: SLIP - Which product is best.
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:24:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: shamash.49587
Organization: Control Data Systems
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-XXMessage-ID: <A727E10B01010456@ethelred.svl.cdc.com>
X-XXDate: Thu, 12 Nov 92 10:23:07 GMT

Having just installed a PowerPort Gold into my beloved PB140 I am looking
for the best means of hooking into the world while travelling in it. I
use a bunch of network tools and I am heavily involved in developing more
- loverly stuff.

My ARA options are slowish but corporate dial-ins are v.32bis so I prefer
them, and we have SLIP running. So I want a MacTCP LAP SLIP extension. As
far as I know, HydePark, Intercon and Synergy all have such product,
though perhaps Synergy's is bundled with Versaterm.

Anyone have any experience? Know of any other products? Do these products
work invisibly with MacX, Eudora, Nuntius, NCSA Telnet. I believe this
latter has its own built in SLIP support but I presume I can just run
basic MacTCP and use slip.

All help is appreciated - thanks.
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From: p_stampoul@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Opal Software ???
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:20:39 +0800
Organization: University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: fennel.cc.uwa.edu.au

does anyone know the whereabouts of "OPAL Software".  They used to be in
NSW in Australia, however the contact numbers I have are disconnected.

We need to talk to them about their OPAL software.  Any help on contacting them
would be greatly appreciated.  Please E-Mail me directly.
=======================================================================
Mike Albert                     | EMail: P_STAMPOUL@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au
Department of Transport         | Phone: +619 389 0613
Perth , Western Australia 6009  | Fax :  +619 386 5119
Australia                       | QMail: +619 386 2188  ALINK: AUST0600

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: popaul@cs.mcgill.ca (Paul TERRAY)
Subject: Re: Good book on TCP/IP / Internet wanted
Reply-To: popaul@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:26:26 GMT

> Now I'm looking for a good book that covers just about anything about
> the Internet and the protocols, numbering schemes etc.

Well, If you want to program TCP/IP on Mac all by yourself, I have a Introduction to TCP/IP and Internet...:

Internetworking with TCP/IP
Volume I (Principles, Protocols, and Architecture)
Douglas E. Come 
r
Prentice Hall

ISBN 0-13-468505-9

This book describe the protocols used by TCP/IP, and I think the Volume II cover the implementation.
It is a really good book, and I advice anyone who want to understand about the internet to read it, as it is extremely clear and readable.

Paul
popaul@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca
From: dswartz@sw.stratus.com (Dan Swartzendruber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: XWindows on the Mac???
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:25:41 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: redondo.sw.stratus.com

In article <1992Nov13.152014.2718@linus.mitre.org>, 129.83.161.10 (H. Chao) writes:
> In article <1dpam2INNc8u@transfer.stratus.com>, dswartz@sw.stratus.com (Dan
> Swartzendruber) writes:
> > 
> > In article <83337@ut-emx.uucp>, blade@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu writes:

[deleted]

> I have a problem when I run MacX.  It complains about the incorrect
> "connetion tools".  Could you tell me what kind of connection tool I have
> to install and where to get it?

I use the MacTCP that came with A/UX.


> Thanks,
> 
> Hungkai
> (hkc@mitre.org)

-- 

#include <std_disclaimer.h>

Dan S.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: ADSP Terminals? Where?
From: cwilder@eis.calstate.edu (Charlotte Wilder)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:37:47 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Does anyone know where I can get (ftp?) an "ADSP terminal" that will connect
to Hermes 2.0 via appletalk?  Please email responses.  Thanks.
From: s922734@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Paul Chow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: QuadraLink DMA with F1 (Tabby compat.) Problems
Keywords: Quadra LINK DMA & Tabby
Date: 11 Nov 92 09:29:40 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

Hi there netters,

I just purchased a Quadra Link DMA Card for my BBS. At the same time, I am running this Macintosh Mailer call F1. The card works well I call other BBS via terminal software but I am having problems when I attempt to poll via F1. Does anyone out there have any suggestion as to what I have done wrong or have any experience with setting a QL DMA card up with F1 or Tabby?

Paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: ADSP Tool
From: cwilder@eis.calstate.edu (Charlotte Wilder)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:15:49 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Does anyone know where I can FTP the "ADSP Tool" (I might also need
the entire Apple Communications Toolbox... not sure yet) from?  I have
Termy v2.0 and would like to use the ADSP connection ability, but I
don't have the ADSP Tool.  Any information would be appreciated.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: rnelson@nmsu.EDU (Rustin R Nelson)
Subject: NCSA Telnet and SLIP -- Help.
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:56:19 GMT


I am running NCSA Telnet 2.5 and am trying to get it to use SLIP mode,
over my modem.  My local UNIX host is already set up for SLIP.  I have
the SLIP IP number correctly entered into the Serial Port Settings menu.
I can initiate a straight serial connection window and use it as a terminal
with my modem, however the entire Session menu is grayed out and,
consequently, I cannot choose the Switch to SLIP option.

I tried setting the hardware=Serial in the Config.tel file but I am not
sure the Config file is even getting read.  I always arrive at the 
couldn't find config file dialog box and proceed to find it.  It still
responds with a 'couldn't initalize hardware level driver' type message.

I am running a Mac Plus with system 6.0.2.  What am I doing wrong?  Is
this even possible? (The Telnet manual led me to believe it is)

Thanks in advance,
Rusty
rnelson@dante.nmsu.edu
From: s_titz@ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Remote Shutdown of Internet Mac
Date: 12 Nov 1992 09:26:21 GMT
Organization: Fachschaft math/inf, Uni Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: irau29.ira.uka.de

In article <1992Nov11.152319.3670@bradford.ac.uk> A.L.Radtke@bradford.ac.uk (Drew Radtke) writes:
>I've had a look through various faqs but I can't find anything to help.
>So, here's my question:
>
>Does anyone know of any network utility which I could run on my Mac
>(which is connected to the internet) which would enable me to initiate
>various Mac commands, specifically shutdown? Something which works with
>MacTCP or similar would be useful.

You can do this with XGator, which gives you complete control over
your Mac from any X-terminal or workstation. (Basically, it maps the
Mac screen into an X window.) Very useful. It is a commercial product,
but a demo version can be found on sumex.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.protocols.appletalk
From: jeffc@comb1.comb.umd.edu (Jeff Clowser; IRG)
Subject: Re: AppleTalk via MacTCP and SLIP?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: AppleTalk MacTCP SLIP UDP IP
Organization: University of Maryland, Center of Marine Biotechnology
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:19:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.005743.1655@msus1.msus.edu>, Dale@Karsten.Mankato.MSUS.EDU writes...
>Is there a way to get a Macintosh to do AppleTalk over IP by using MacTCP
>and one of SLIP extensions.  We have Shiva FastPath 5 routers configured for
>AppleTalk over IP and they seem to  be working well.  All we need now is a
>Macintosh Network control pannel device to run AppleTalk over IP
>(provided by MacTCP and SLIP) to the FastPath routers on Campus.
> 
>My goal is to have our users dial into the campus via SLIP to do the usual
>TCP/IP things but I would also like to give them access to the Campus
>AppleTalk network at the same time.  And to take this even one step further,
>I would also like to Bridge small remote AppleTalk networks into the campus
>by installing Apple's Internet Router software on one of remote Macintoshes
>with the MacTCP SLIP connection.


Along the same lines:
We have a number of Macs at remote sites, which are connected to the 
outside world via MacTCP.  There are a number of routers between them and
our main sites that we don't have control over, which don't route appletalk.
Our only option is IP Tunneling.  We can't afford to buy a fastpath for
each 1-3 remote macs we have, and even Software routers that will tunnel
are rather steep in price, and require us to run them on a mac that has to
stay on to keep the connection (Even if it runs in the background, it doesn't
help if it's on a workstation that gets turned off.)

Modem solutions aren't much better, since you need as many modems as you want
connections at a time (on both sides), and even using a 14400 bd modem leaves
a lot to be desired with respect to speed...

What would be ideal, at least in our case here, would be a method of using
MacTCP to tunnel or otherwise create an ip connection directly to a router,
which can translate those packets to Appletalk, and connect these remote Macs
to appletalk networks.  (Maybe call it iptalk, as opposed to localtalk or
ethertalk, and have it just be a LAP you can choose in network...)  It seems
that this could be done, although I'm not familiar enough with the internal
workings of routers to say for sure.  I'm not sure how it would figure out
a network address and zone and such - maybe it can take the one the router 
resides in, be a separate net number, etc.

Anyway, I figured I'd throw out my ideas and $.02 worth, and see what people
come up with.  (If something like this exists, I'd love to hear about it).

===============================================================================
Jeff Clowser		    			     "A keyboard... how quaint"
JeffC@comb1.comb.umd.edu
Network Administrator, Macintosh Technical Support
Information Resources Group, Maryland Biotechnology Institute
University of Maryland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: tjfs@tadtec.uucp (Tim Steele)
Subject: Re: MacTCP availability?
Organization: Tadpole Technology plc
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:06:48 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
	<iscjcw-101192091058@ajax.ucop.edu> <CKD.92Nov10201015@loiosh.eff.org>

Hmm.  So why don't NCSA distribute it with Telnet 2.5?

Tim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Distribution: world
From: asjk@ultramac.uucp (John Knefel)
Organization: Odyssey Ultraware, Inc
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 10:01:58 CDT
Subject: cheap 14,400 modems

Wall Street Journal Thursday, November 12, 1992
	The cost of modems for computer communications will take a sharp step
downward as Prodigy, one of the country's biggest on-line services, is
expected to start selling high speed modems for $199.
	Closely held Digicom Systems Inc., Milpitas, Calif., said Prodigy plans to sell a new 14,400 bit-per-second, or bps, modem that Digicom has developed. The 14,400 bps modem transmits
about 1,800 characters, or 300 words, a second.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: bredell@tdb.uu.se (Mats Bredell)
Subject: Re: ADSP Terminals? Where?
Reply-To: Mats.Bredell@udac.uu.se
Organization: Uppsala University Computing Center (UDAC)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:42:47 GMT

Charlotte Wilder (cwilder@eis.calstate.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone know where I can get (ftp?) an "ADSP terminal" that will connect
: to Hermes 2.0 via appletalk?  Please email responses.  Thanks.
: 

Any terminal program that uses the communications toolbox can do this. There
are a lot of free- and shareware programs to do this, including some from
Apple with source code. You also need the 'AppleTalk ADSP Tool' which I think
is available from ftp.apple.com.

/Mats
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: josteisv@dhhalden.no (JOSTEIN SVENDSEN)
Subject: Problems with MacTCP/Novell/Ethernet
Keywords: MacTCP, Novell, Ethernet
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 13:23:49 GMT

Does anyone have experienced problems with Macintoshes connected to a Novell/
Ethernet network and using MacTCP to InterNet?

On our school the Macs are crashing all the time. And they are bad 
ambassadors for the machine which should be the best. The Macs don't 
crash when they are disconnected from the net.

I've heard that there are som problems with MacTCP. Anyone else experienced 
the same trouble, and know how to fix it?

It's very important to fix this. Most CS-students on our school (PC/Amiga 
freaks) hate Macs because it's so unstable.

Jostein :-D


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