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From: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: No mouse under xfree86-1.1
Date: 10 Oct 92 03:49:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: victrola.uTTesB1w165w
Reply-To: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Organization: Vince and Suzie's Underpowered PC, Federal Way WA

satishc@microsoft.com (Satish Chittamuru) writes:

> Neither Linux0.98 or X (xfree86-1.1 from tsx-11) seem to like my
> mouse. Linux doesn't recognize it at all and under X it moves
> in a completely erratic manner. Curiously enough Linux 0.97.6
> recognizes my mouse, but as a Microsoft bus mouse. In reality
> it is a serial mouse on ttys0 (com1).
> 
> The mouse used to be recognized just fined in 0.96c and X1.0
> used to work perfectly well with it (as a logitech mouse).
> 

same here...

when I went to 098p1 in order to run the brand new X386, I noticed
that the system didn't see my serial mouse (COM1) at all on boot
when 097 and earlier did.

in running x386mono, I can run startx with Logitech /dev/tts0 set
in xconfig and I get the initial 3 twm windows, it's just that
I have no mouse response at all, so I can't run anything productively
(damn, I like the mono look on the screen and it appears to be nice
and quick).

any help would be appreciated...

        386-33, 8 MB memory, 'real Logitech' serial mouse on com1
        internal modem w/16550A on com2, nothing on com3.



     .......... Vince Skahan ..... vince@victrola.sea.wa.us ..........
    Every time that man [George Bush] opens his mouth, the price goes up.
                            - local talk-radio caller about Mr 'read my lips'
                               and his budgets
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jes@grendel.demon.co.uk (Jim Segrave)
ReplyTo: jes@grendel.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: Once again -- FileSystem corruption
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: cppnews $Revision: 1.18 $
Organization: None
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:09:42 +0000


In article <1992Oct4.074930.23728@klaava.Helsinki.FI> torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds) writes:

> >
> >It still might be a problem with my Maxtor 7213 (PCBA rev 52 -- june '92)
> >but to me it looks like linux is maybe not fault-tolerant enough.
> 
> Well, it's true that linux has some problems with bad spots on the disk
> (as I have never been able to see one...), but in the case of the maxtor
> drive (and you do have one of the early bad ones - PCBA < 63) it's just
> that the maxtor doesn't seem to *report* the errors, so linux doesn't
> even know about any trouble. 
> 
> The drive seems to work perfectly ok under DOS - but DOS (BIOS) doesn't
> even use interrupts in the harddisk driver.  Does the maxtor work under
> OS/2?

As far as I know, every BIOS hard disc driver does use interrupts. A
common problem with older BIOS's is that some IDE drives will raise the
interrupt on a read before the drive is actually ready to transfer data.
Older BIOS's often simply begin reading the data as soon as the
interrupt is received and in some cases -  I found this with Quantam
drives, the data is replaced with garbage. The code needs to wait for
the interrupt to occur, then wait for the data ready flag in the status
register (or better still the alternate status register) before
performing data transfers.
 
> >I don't want to say linux is bad in any way,
> >but maybe it's possible to add some switches to offer conservative
> >timings for poor/flawed hardware ?
> 
> There already is, both in {in,out}b_p() and in the HD_DELAY values.  But
> with so many different systems (and so few hardware manuals), it's a bit
> difficult to please everybody.  The default delay of inb_p/outb_p is
> four extra IO instructions - that is very conservative (at least my
> drive works without any delay at all).  The HD_DELAY define isn't used
> by default: it's a pretty ugly hack, and I don't like it (but it does
> help some people, so...). 
> 
> 		Linus
> 
> 
--
Jim Segrave (Segrave Software Services)     jes@grendel.demon.co.uk

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: peterw@archsci.arch.su.oz.au (Peter Williams )
Subject: Re: dvips v 5.495
Organization: Design Computing Unit, The University of Sydney
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 02:35:26 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.234923.18691@ucc.su.OZ.AU>, peterw@archsci.arch.su.oz.au (Peter Williams ) writes:
|> Following recommendations in the comp.text.tex newsgroup I have compiled
|> version 5.495 of dvips and made it available in pub/linux/tex-etc/Jump.4.1.version
|> on archsci.arch.su.edu.au (129.78.66.1) (file dvips5495.T.Z)
|> 
|> This file includes documentation, man pages, binaries a test file, tfms and
|> vfs for postscript fonts, some style files and config files.
|> 
|> It is set up for the standard tex distribution under /usr/local but may be
|> installed elsewhere provided the necessary environment variables are
|> instantiated (see the documentation for details)
|> 
|> -- 
|> Peter Williams                |e-mail: peterw@archsci.arch.su.edu.au
|> Key Centre for Design Quality |phone: +61-2-692 2053 or +61-2-660 6156
|> University of Sydney          |+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I forgot to mention that the sources are available in pub/dvips5495.tar.Z and
pub/dvips5493lib.tar.Z on labrea.stanford.edu for those who wish to compile
their own. The only problem was that some script files require "ed". Other than
that it is just a matter of editing Makefile, MakeTeXPK and config.ps to reflect
your local setup and then running make.

With regard to "ed", I found that once a few "^" were changed to "~" in the
source available on tsx that it compiles and runs OK. GCC will point where the
"^" that need changing are!! The ed.c in pub/linux/apps already has these changes
applied.

-- 
Peter Williams                |e-mail: peterw@archsci.arch.su.edu.au
Key Centre for Design Quality |phone: +61-2-692 2053 or +61-2-660 6156
University of Sydney          |+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: may@ug.cs.dal.ca (Bear)
Subject: Configuring Xfree
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:56:02 GMT

	If anyone out there is using a trident 8900 and a EVERdata monitor
I would like to hear from you.... for that matter anyone who has an everdata
I would like to hear from you..... I don't have a user manual for the monitor
and I can't tell what type of monitor frequency it uses?

thanks	
		Brian
		may@ug.cs.dal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: drew@ophelia.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: Chicken and egg: How was the first linux gcc binary created??
Keywords: gcc linux egg chicken soup
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:49:38 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.041523.25429@DIALix.oz.au> meetch@DIALix.oz.au (Mitchell Brandsma) writes:
>In <1992Oct10.124926.12423@engr.uark.edu> tep@engr.uark.edu (Tim Peoples) writes:
>
>>   As I was standing in the shower this morning I was thinking (I do
>>my best thinking in the shower) "How did Linus generate that first
>>gcc binary?"  This was prompted by a newbie question about compilers
>>where he said something like "I can't compile a compiler until I have
>>a compiler to compile it."
>
>Gcc can be compiled with cc.  Then to optimize it you'd normally recompile
>gcc with itself.  Ah, but then how did cc come about ?  Yes, it can get
>interesting.  One thing I'd be interested in finding out is how much RAM +
>swap space it takes gcc to compile itself.
>
>>   I guess Linus is the only one who can answer this but I figured it

Nah.  Getting gcc up on a new system with a supported processor, 
with a gas supported processor, and binutils supported 
.o format isn't that bad.  
 
>>would also be of general interest.  So Linus, how'd ya do it???

>
>My question is how did cc get compiled (or was it carefully written in
>assembler)?  The chain must end somewhere.
>

Under Linux, gcc is cc.  Problematic, eh?  

The solution is to cross compile : 

You compile a gcc with the native cc or gcc on another platform, that 
produces i386 code in a.out format.   Of course, you must have 
any libraries needed present for the target system on the 
host, as well as ld, as, etc.

Older versions of the binutils weren't too happy doing cross-endian 
work, but on the same machine, different OS, you don't have that 
problem.

I'd guess that gcc was originally cross compiled from under Minix 386.

-- 
Microsoft is responsible for propogating the evils it calls DOS and Windows, 
IBM for AIX (appropriately called Aches by those having to administer it), but 
marketing's sins don't come close to those of legal departments.
Boycott AT&T for their absurd anti-BSDI lawsuit.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tree@midget.towson.edu (Denise Tree)
Subject: Re:
Reply-To: tree@midget.towson.edu (Denise Tree)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 03:50:12 GMT


tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore T'so) writes:

|>   From: tree@midget.towson.edu (Denise Tree)
|> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 20:35:55 GMT

|>   I have recently upgraded to 0.98 kernel but am now having
|>  serial problems..... AST FourPort ports do not function
|>   correctly.

|Hmm.... I have an AST Fourport (and am using it right now), and I never
|had the problem you described.  Have you tried taking my latest patches?


False alarm!! I tried recompiling this and that etc... to no avail.
then I set getty and the FourPort line to 2400 and it worked. I 
incremented the speed to see where it would stop ( it didn't work
at 9600 before) and it went right past 9600 and is working now at 
19200 much better than it did before  at 9600! K.I.S.S works.
______________________________________________________________________
_______________ Denise Tree
____________________________tree@midget.towson.edu
_________________________________________.... . . .   .   .    .     .
                                                                     .
                                                                     .
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From: mph@plasma.apana.org.au (Martin Peter Howell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: New serial programs failing under 0.98.0
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:03:35 GMT

bjones@cambria.columbus.oh.us (Bill Jones) writes:

>I just obtained the 0.98.0 kernel sources and patched them with the new
>serial patches, serpatches.  The compilation was full of warnings concerning
>the lack of the keyword `inline' in the assembler routines but the kernel
>compiled OK.  It boots the system and correctly detects 2 of the 3 serial
>ports.

>on IRQ5.  My serial mouse, attached to /dev/ttys0, is picked up correctly as
>is my unused serial port on /dev/ttys3.  But autodetection of both internal
>modems fail.  Anyone else having this problem?

I have 4 serial ports using IRQ 3,4,5 and 2, it detected the first
three OK but the one on IRQ 2 was detected as being on IRQ 9 (I thought
2 and 9 were treated the same) and wouldn't work.

btw, IRQ 2 is connected to a 16450 and a dumb terminal.


-Martin.
mph@plasma.apana.org.au
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY:  Linux and Large Systems
Reply-To: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 03:37:17 GMT

William E. Davidsen writes:
|
|I don't believe Linux will do this. I haven't looked at the sources in
|the last month, but the old sources included a limit of 64 as the
|highest process number, and I haven't seen any indication that this has
|been increased.

There are a number of reasons why Linux (running on a 386/486 with the
ISA bus) isn't the best suited for running 50-60 users, but the reputed
64 process limit is *not* one of them.  In older versions of Linux, this
limit was a design limit, which could be increased without making
serious changes to the memory management system.  Those changes have
since been made --- the same changes increased each process's address
space to 4 gigabytes --- and at this point, the 64 process limit is
merely a compile-time limit that can be easily increased by changing the
appropriate .h file and recompiling.

						- Ted
From: mirons@ccs.northeastern.edu (Michael A. Irons)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: mf: can't load library '/lib/XtVen.so.2.1'
Summary: Thanks, I got it not.
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:42:01 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University, CCS Dept.


	Thanks, I had the beta version from Orst and it didn't have the /lib
files. I pulled over the new bin files with the missing stuff. Also the 'new'
server fixed a bug/problem I was having where X would kill the machine with
>6 (depending on what was running) xterms.

						Mike Irons
-- 

                                  Mike Irons;
                       mirons@Dworkin.CCS.Northeastern.EDU	(School)
                 mirons%minix1.uucp@MecEng.COE.Northeastern.EDU	(Home)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: rickm@eng.auburn.edu (Rick Martindale)
Subject: (Q) Various Subjects
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 03:43:35 GMT


I have been "playing" with linux since 0.96 and reading
c.o.l for a while but this is my first post so bear with me.
I have several questions dealing with different subjects.

Question 1.
  I have just updated to gcc2.2.2d and the 4.1 jump table.  I
got the 0.98.1 kernel sources and compiled them.  I am now
getting an "Unexpected hd Interrupt".  I saw the patch Linus
posted to fix this for 0.98 but that fix was already included in
the 0.98.1 source.  What now?

Question 2.
  I am using a Packard Bell PS2 mouse.  On boot up it is not 
detected.  Will the ps2mouse patch for 0.97.1 still fix this?
If not ...?

Question 3.
  I am running minicom.  When the cursor reaches the bottom line,
it continues to <cr> but without a <lf> causeing the output to
write over itself.  Any fixes ...?

Question 4.
  I discovered today that my video driver (pvga1) has only
256k so I cannot run Xfree86.1.1 until I can afford a new card.
What are the requirements for Xega?

Thanks
rickm@eng.auburn.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mchapin@cse.unl.edu (Mark Chapin)
Subject: Beginner Installation Question
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 03:01:53 GMT

I currently have obtained the SLS version of linux.  I want to install this along with DOS 5.0 and OS/2.  I currently have my drive partitioned like:

c:	60 MB
d:	100 MB
e:	500 MB

I want to leave C and D alone and repartion the E drive for OS/2 and linux.
How do I go about the partitioning the E drive while not losing data on the
oteher drives.  I want to set up a drive the maximum size for linux, one
HPFS drive 100MB and the rest a dos drive.  
What should I use to boot from any system,  OS/2 boot manager or LILO?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: michaelw@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Michael Will)
Subject: Re: Why is TCP/IP treated like it isn't really part of Linux sometimes?
Organization: Point of Presence & MCS Hamburg
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:25:28 GMT

Frank T Lofaro <fl0p+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>kernel with only the drivers you need. Also, have it come with ftp,
>telnet, etc binaries. Many people would really appreciate it.
Yes! Indeed I would, and I am not having access to the channel, and did
not try, since I am a beginner, but I do ignore something important as
tcp/ip, which I want to learn as much as I can get about...

Sorry, if you consider my mail a blablamail, but I really feel strong about
tcp/ip and think you should know.

Thank you for listening, Michael Will from HH92
From: Jim.Corbett@f35.n152.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Corbett)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: SCSI controllers supported
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 14:06:01 -0800

Pd> Is the Always Technologies IN2000 compatible with either
Pd> 386BSD or Linux?

I think the only drivers available for the IN2000 are for Xenix and
DOS.

If you call them and find out differently, PLZ pass on the info. 
 
 * Origin: Intermittent Connection  Eugene, OR (1:152/35)

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: dlblack@nyx.cs.du.edu (David Black)
Subject: shell not seeing EOF on serial port
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 01:37:26 GMT


Hi, I'm doing dialin linux, and notice that if a person runs a command
and drops the line while the command is still going (hasn't returned
to the parent shell), the shell doesn't see the EOF like it should.
So the user effectively stays logged in until the parent shell is
killed and only then are others able to dial in.

It used to seem this didn't happen... I'm pretty sure all the tty flags
are set up correctly. Here's my /etc/gettydefs:

38400#B38400 CS8 CRTSCTS -CLOCAL HUPCL#B38400 SANE -ISTRIP ECHO CRTSCTS
-CLOCAL HUPCL#login: #38400

(that's one line there, this text editor split it)

Is there a known solution to this? Thanks.

Dave
dlbb0@amdahl.com

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: krus@cs.concordia.ca (Mike Krus)
Subject: Re: Uncompress for DOS (ugh)
Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:43:30 GMT

In article <718937259.F00072@remote.halcyon.com> Eric.Eskam@f234.n209.z1.fidonet.org (Eric Eskam) writes:
>can anyone point out some SPECIFIC places to find uncompress/compress
>for DOS?
there's a program called comp430d.zip which does that. But I don't rember
exactly where to find it. You'll have to use archie for that. If you really
can't find it just mail me and I'll mail you a copy.

-- 
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Concordia University				Universite d'Orsay - Paris XI
Montreal, Canada					        Paris, France
A nuclear war can ruin your whole day.
From: phd85@seq1.keele.ac.uk (D.H. Holden)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?)
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:12:59 GMT
Organization: Keele University, England

From article <718372810snx@kerberos.demon.co.uk>, by alovell@kerberos.demon.co.uk (Anthony Lovell):
> After reading this months copy of Byte (October) Windows NT looks more like
> unix with a Windows API all the time
> 
> anthony

	  From this same issue it also seems to require a heck of a lot of
	  memory (~ 16M) 

        Also the thing on solaris and univel? 
	  Unix with a graphical interface would take all the fun out
	  of it :) 
	  what about all those satifying moments ,e.g, when you finally figure 
	  how to use egrep to combine regex searchs,  or the time you got
	  a 4 line shell script to work and felt like a unix pro',
	  discovering a new command (leave; neat.) ....

	   whats your favourite unix moment?
--
Dave.
phd85@uk.ac.keele.seq1
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: Kermit5A, LINUX 0.98: 'set line' first
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:42:32 GMT

Lars Aronsson (aronsson@lysator.liu.se) wrote:

: SUMMARY: Has anyone got kermit running under LINUX 0.98? Has LINUX
: changed since earlier versions, so that kermit will break under 0.98?

Yes.  No.

:) :)

Seriously, I've got kermit running - I had to download te sources myself, and
recompile, since I wanted HDB uucp lock files, so that uucp and kermit
wouldn't fight over the line.
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG                  erc@apple.com                     801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
From: cummings@bbird8.Prime.COM (Kevin Cummings)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: New serial drivers finding "bogus" devices
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:09:46 GMT
Organization: PrimeService, a ComputerVision Company

In article <1992Oct16.172534.25540@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, ctne_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Chris Newbold) writes:
|> How do you get an 8-bit ISA card at IRQ 15?!?

My mouse card is actually a 16-bit card.  However, all it uses from
the extra socket is the IRQ lines and extra address lines.  The card will
work OK in either a 16 or 8 bit slot.  In an 8-bit slot all you lose is
the ability to use the upper 8 IRQ lines.  These is NO configuration
necessary under DOS (the Mouse Systems mouse drivers find both the card
and its IRQ lines with no problem [at least for me]).  Under LINUX
I need the setserial, which I put in my /etc/rc.local.  The bus version
of this mouse was only US$10 more than the regular Mouse Systems mouse.
I wish more serial port cards had the functionality of this "bus" board
for the same price!

|> >By the way, what IS the information on your InPort mouse?  Is it a
|> >serial adapter for a serial mouse (like my Mouse Systems), or is it
|> >a real Microsoft Bus Mouse?
|> 
|> The InPort mouse I have is a real Microsoft bus mouse. Still don't
|> know how to make it work with X, either...

You need to have a device in /dev (either bm or mouse) which is configured
correctly for your mouse.  I think it is major device 10.  I don't know
what the minor device number should be.  It is documented somewhere.
Try looking in the mouse header files.  It doesn't matter which name you
choose.  In your Xconfig file for Xfree86, specify the pathname for the
mouse device you created in /dev.  You may also wish to assert that it is
a Microsoft mouse (either Microsoft or BusMouse, I'm not sure which).

How about someone who has Xfree86 working with a Microsoft Bus Mouse
verifying this info?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: aviz@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Dr Algirdas Avizienis)
Subject: Can't get 0.97.pl3 to compile...
Originator: aviz@lanai.cs.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 04:28:40 GMT

	Hello there.. I am having major trouble upgrading my linux to 0.98.
I have the 0.97.pl2 MCC Interim release set up on my computer, and I have
recently upgraded to GCC2.2.2d7 with the jump tables, etc, as per the
ChangeLog file.  I applied the patches, and I think they were all applied
correctly, and everything compiles find until it tried to link tools/system.
It doesn't recognize _minix_bread or _minix_getblk from minix.o.
Nor does it find _bus_mouse_fops or _psaux_fops or _bus_mouse_init or 
_psaux_init in mouse.o.  I can't seem to figure what the problem is.
Can someone PLEASE help me?

Thanks a lot.
 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: yan@indetech.com ()
Subject: Help me to get the middle mouse button working
Organization: Independence Technologies, Inc. Fremont, CA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:53:52 GMT

I need help to get the middle mouse button working. I am using a cheapo
mouse, The Xconfig has # Emulate3Button or something like that commented
out.

But middle mouse still doesn't work. At lease I can't do cut and paste.

Anyone have any suggestions?

This is using the latest SLS package with X.

Xudong
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux