From: steve@celia.UUCP (Steve Tyree)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Suburbs swing to Clinton in Time magazine poll
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:57:44 GMT
Reply-To: celia!steve@usc.edu (Steve Tyree)
Organization: Rhythm & Hues, Inc., Hollywood

In article <1992Sep9.215027.18476@ils.nwu.edu> hooker@aristotle.ils.mwu.edu ( BOB HOOKER) writes:
->In article <1912@celia.UUCP>, steve@celia.UUCP (Steve Tyree) writes:
->>  Answers to what questions ? I want a county that is greater than 50 percent
->> independent polled. These counties might have been 20 % independent 50 %
->> democratic and 30 % republican. Every county has a built in bias. If they
->> use key counties to do polling, they must report the counties prior voting
->> record.
->>  Actually the main thrust of my post was really the following
->>   How many polls are only polling selected key counties ?
->>   Why arent we told that a particular poll was subjected to key county selec-
->>  tion? Obviously I wasnt referring to the poll mentioned in the original post.
->>  I was referring to all the other polls which do not mention how the poll data
->>  was taken.
->
->Stevie, is reading an article so beyond your abilities?  This poll of
->selected counties presented data only on those selected counties and did
->not generalize any statisitical inferences for the rest of the nation.

That still does not explain why they failed to notify us of the built in
biases of these counties. They said they were key but never explained
why they thought they were key right ? 
 Anyway Im not directly criticising this poll. I will quote myself from above.
 "I was referring to all the other polls which do not mention how the poll data
  was taken."
     Can you read this a second time. I was referring to OTHER national POLLS
    that MIGHT be using KEY counties and NOT TELLING us about it.
 Is this clear enough for you. My intent was not to attack the original poll.
Only the fact that this polling method has probably (?) been used in many
other polls. They obvoiusly dont have the resources to call people in every
county in the US.

->Stevie,  do you really think that Time Magazine would willfully conduct a
->bad poll,  for what purpose?  If the election is close, or if Bush is
->winning and Time magazine knows about it yet continues to fudge the data to
->make it look as if Clinton were winning,  what would happen to the
->crdiability, the sales and the advertising of Time after the election?

 Sorry pal, I will never purchase another TIME magazine as long as I
live. It has to due with their admitted total lack of OBJECTIVITY in
dealing with environmental issues. Also, I have watched interviews with
TIME reporters on CSPAN. The reporter basically admitted that time is
pro CLINTON and demonstrates it quite often. I posted quotes from this
interview here before. They have obviously decided to carve out a niche
market. I am not part of that niche.

->The ultimate test of a poll is repeatability,  and as long as the poll data
->from different poll taking companies gives you the same information;  Bush
->is very unpopular,  you will have a hard time proving otherwise until
->someone else confirms
->you.
 
 The poll data has been varying quite drastically lately. Some polls say
16 point Clinton lead, others say 10 point Clinton lead and another stated
6 point Clinton lead and just recently one stated 5 point Clinton lead.
I dont have the time to analyze the poll data. I have offered to partake
in a random poll here previously. What I have noticed is that after the
BRILLIANT republican convention, the poll data has drastically varied.
 WHY ?

 Steve Tyree - These opinions are mine and mine alone.
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