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From: jlpicard@austin.ibm.com (Craig Becker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Underrated Actor: Alan Rickman
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:22:34 GMT
Reply-To: jlpicard@austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Object Technology Products
Originator: jlpicard@woofer.austin.ibm.com


mvburke@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (mary virginia burke) writes:
...
> He's also a very highly respected stage actor, and in fact was nominated
> for a Tony when the RSC production of _Les Liaisons Dangereuses_ ran on 
> Broadway in the mid-80s (he was Valmont).  What were those people THINKING when
> they cast John Malkovich in the movie??  

Rickman as Valmont?! What a great idea!

Craig
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From: egnilges@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Edward G. Nilges)
Subject: Re: Coppola's DRACULA
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:45:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.065501.4244@netcom.com> damiel@netcom.com (Paul Theodoropoulos) writes:
>In <1993Jan9.050808.18544@Princeton.EDU> egnilges@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Edward G. Nilges) writes:
>>Of course it was brainless.  But you make no attempt to engage its messages
>>in any critical sense, meaning that they continue to work on your
>>subconscious.  For example, the statement you make "I nearly barfed on
>>my [putatively female] companion" expresses a lot of repressed hostility and
>>aggression and indeed is a Dracula-like desire to infect a woman with your
>>bodily fluids.  
>
>i must admit that this is quite possibly the most offensive piece of
>pseudo-intellectual bilge i have ever had the displeasure to read.
>
>Mr. Nilges, you would do well to come out of your ivory tower and learn
>a little humanity. 
>
>and pseudo-intellectuals wonder why there is so much hostility expressed
>towards them.
>
>extraordinary.
>
>
>"Clever People and Grocers: they *weigh* everything..."
>
>-Zorba
>
>-- 
>paul theodoropoulos     damiel@netcom.com     (hooools@well.sf.ca.us)
>
>"Those who will trade essential liberty for promise of security will have
> neither" - Benjamin Franklin


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From: ckp2n@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Christina Powell)
Subject: Re: In-joke during Muppet's Christmas movie.
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:38:38 GMT

ufaustus@mcl.ucsb.edu  writes:
> In <9212302300.AA13668@caster.suneng> chapmand@chdasic.sps.mot.com (David Chapman) writes:
> 
> >Hello,
> 
> >Did anyone else see the in-joke during the Muppet's Christmas movie?
> 
> >One of the stores had the name "MICKLEWHITE " on the front.
> 
> >DC
> 
> I guess I'm an idiot, i don't get it  (you can tell by the way I walk!)
> 
> 
> 
> 			Dr Faustus
> 
Hint: It's Michael Caine's real name.
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From: spencer@der.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun)
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS ! (and a PRAISE)
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: spencer@phoenix.princeton.edu (S. Spencer Sun)
Organization: Society for Promotion of Entropy in the Universe (SPEU)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:09:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.165653.9346@spectra.com>, johnson@spectra.com (boyd johnson) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.015554.22476@xgml.com> rba@xgml.com (Roy B. Amodeo) writes:
>I agree totally with both parts.  There is usually a lot of trash lying
>around.  I always bring mine to the back, but the one trash can they
>have back there is usually overflowing by others that did the same as I
>did.  They do need more, larger trash cans or better yet a window by the
>exit with a dumpster in a closet on the other side.

They ought to have people standing by the exit holding trash bags to
handle this type of problem... this is what we do for our big house (640
seats) when there's lots of people in it.

-----
sss / Princeton University Class of 1994 / Department of Computer Science
It is up to us to produce better-quality movies.  [Lloyd Kaufman, producer
of _Stuff Stephanie in the Incinerator_.]

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From: barrus@cod.nosc.mil
Subject: Parents (was: what was it?)
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:03:34 GMT


In article <1993Jan5.180746.3373@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> netnews@porthos.cc.bellcore.com (USENET System Software) writes:
>My friends and I rented Parents (Randy Quaid, Mary Beth Hurt, Sandy
>Dennis) to watch over New Year's Day.
>
>What the hell was -THAT- ??
>
>It had been put in the comedy section of the video store...
>Parents has to be the weirdest picture I have seen in a
>very very long time...
>
>Could some kind soul explain it to me?
>We were so confused, that we actually started to watch the
>film again the next day, sober....
>
>WkM
>

It was a satire on what it was like growing up in the McCarthy era.  With
all the rampant paranoia going on, it would no doubt have an effect on
a child.  This movie has the effect having the child even doubt his own
parents.  But, the catch of the movie was that, despite all the paranoa,
it was all true.  I really enjoyed it.

JDB
From: jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Al Pacino for Best Actor (Scent of a Woman)
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:44:41 GMT
Reply-To: jreece@sousa.intel.com
Organization: Intel - Information Technologies


 WDENNEN@CCVM.sunysb.edu (Bill Dennen) writes:

> He certainly gets my vote (although, my votes does not count for much).
> The movie was great - one of the best I've seen in a loooong time (and, yes,
> I'm a movie freak and go to the movies often).

He's overdue, but this seems to be an up year with lots of
heavyweight competition for Best Actor.  Some figure Eastwood is also about 
due for something and some of his recent movies, like "White Hunter, Black
Heart" seem to be pitching to the Hollywood establishment.
Both Nicholson and Lemmon have strong performances in the traditional
dramatic roles that Oscar favors.  Steve Martin might get nominated
for "Leap of Faith", but since all these others are sure nominees he
doesn't stand a chance.


-- 
John Reece			"This lifeboat is full"	
Not an Intel spokesman
From: chapmand@chdasic.sps.mot.com (David Chapman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Trailer for 'Groundhog Day'
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:36:50 GMT
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Hello,
I saw 'A Few Good Men' over the weekend and a trailer for 'Groundhog Day'
was shown. It stars Bill Murray. What was very annoying about this trailer
was that it more or less told you the whole movie. 
Has anyone else seen the trailer for 'Groundhog Day'? Were you equally
peeved?

DC
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From: takoosma@utkvx1.utk.edu (Toby Koosman)
Subject: Re: The Player (was Re: Academy Awards)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:00:00 GMT

[I wrote]
>>It seems to be on everyone's list, which I find puzzling.  The Player was a
>>cute movie, clever and well-done, but certainly not a great movie.  Even
>>restricting the field to comedies, Husbands and Wives was far better.  Perhaps
>>its special appeal to movie buffs explains the high rating?

Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney writes..
[discussion of Husbands & Wives deleted]
>On the other hand, I am amongst those you so blithely dismiss as buffs
>-- and another poster as the artsy-fartsy crowd (and I can assure you
>there nothing artistical about my wind) -- who were mightily impressed
>by THE PLAYER 
..
>And I'm not at all sure how it is you think you can read and post to
>rec.arts.movies and not be a "movie buff" by default. 

I don't deny being a movie buff, if not one of a very high order, nor did I
mean to blithely dismiss all the good folks on this newsgroup.  I just wonder
if the pleasure of identifying the movie references and stars causes some to
rate The Player a bit higher than it merits.  I thought it very entertaining--
a game played with the audience.  But as a satire on Hollywood it didn't have
much bite, and I'm afraid I didn't find the irony very subtle.  In the end, it
was no more than clever.  I don't give a fig for the Oscars, which like all
awards are compromised, but I can't help but notice how many critics have
called The Player one of the year's best movies.  That I find surprising.

Toby Koosman
University of Tennessee   Knoxville, Tennessee  USA
Internet: koosman@utkvx.utk.edu     Bitnet: koosman@utkvx
From: synth@moskva.unm.edu (Synth F. Oberheim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: (Unsolicited) advice against Blockbuster
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:24:16 GMT
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In-reply-to: hypes@boi.hp.com's message of Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:17:57 GMT


hypes@boi.hp.com (Gary Hypes) writes:

Gary> But BBV did wonders for opening up the whole video
Gary> market in this area, and there's now open and healthy
Gary> competition for selection, prices, and special services.

Heh.  Check to see if that competition is still in business in 12 to
18 months and get back to us.

You're just lucky, I suppose, that you didn't have other chains in the
area already, so you didn't get to sit back and watch Blockbuster move
in and buy them all out ...

Gary> I say, God bless 'em and more power to them.
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Well, that's certainly on their agenda ... :-)


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From: dovebar@wam.umd.edu (M.D.B.)
Subject: Re: (Unsolicited) advice against Blockbuster
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:40:59 GMT

>I wish video stores would label the tapes so we'll know if they're dubbed
>or subtitled, p&s or letterboxed, and if they have Macrovision.
>
I had a tape labeling experience at Blockbuster myself.  A couple of 
years ago, I rented "Fatal Attraction" - or at least, what I *thought* was
"Fatal Attraction".  The tape I rented was one of two copies , each in
its familiar "FA" box.  When I popped the tape in the VCR, however, it was
an entirely different "FA" than the Michael Douglas-Glenn Close film; it
was a movie with the same name, but starring Sally Kellerman.  At the time,
I attributed it more to employee oversight than something deliberate
(the Kellerman movie wasn't *so* bad that the store would have to 
resort to deception to get it off its shelves.. ;)   I looked at it
as a sort of bizarre learning experience - if I had checked the tape in
the box, I would have noticed that the date was wrong, though the title
was the same.  Now, of course, I try to remember to check the tape itself
before I rent something - but should one *really* have to do that?
Actually, comparing the information on the tape to the info on the box
at Blockbuster can be interesting.  Certain films available in both
"R-rated" and "unedited" versions will sometimes claim to be the 
unedited version on the box, but the tape itself will state it is the 
R-rated version.  Odd.
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From: trb@cbnews.cb.att.com (tom.balent)
Subject: Re: "Moonraker" -- fact or fiction?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 11:36:15 GMT

>>>Sorry... it's all moot, since Ian Fleming did not write "Moonraker".
>>>They had already run out of his stories by that time... ...
>
>>Actually, Fleming did (or at least his clone).  It was one of the
>>original thirteen or so James Bond books.  Kingsley Amis (??) took
>>over the series sometime in the 1970s with, I think, _License
>>Renewed_.  I'm a little hazy on the exact dates and titles of the
>>ersatz Bond books since I was well beyond puberty at the time. :->
>
>That's John Gardner who re-started writing Bond novels in the early 80's.
>Very good books also. :)
>

Fleming DID write a book called Moonraker, but - as with most of the
books to movie conversions - it was very very different from the movie.
(Another conversion was radically different was _The Spy Who Loved Me_, 
the only things that the book an movie share is the title and the main 
character's name).

Kingsley Amis only wrote one Bond book _Colonel Sun_.
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From: mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes)
Subject: SOUNDTRACKS
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:40:42 GMT

Does anyone know if sondtracks are available on CD for these two films:

THE MUSIC TEACHER
A MIDNIGHT CLEAR  (music by Mark Isham)

Thanks
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From: jwp@aber.ac.uk (J W Perkins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Seat reservations in movie theatres
Date: 6 Jan 93 09:20:43 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

In article <1993Jan5.105650.14683@jyu.fi> mol@jyu.fi (Mika O. Latokartano) writes:
>In article <bruce.0di7@zuhause.MN.ORG> bruce@zuhause.MN.ORG (Bruce Albrecht) writes:
>>The new UCI movie theatre at Port Solent (near Portsmouth, UK) assigns seats
>>for all of their movies, even if the theatre is nearly empty (as it was when
>>I saw SWF).  I can see the advantage if the theatre is nearly full, especially
>>for those who wish to buy tickets early, do some shopping and return just
>>before the movie starts.  Does anyone know of other theatres doing this,
>>and if so, do you prefer it?  I was surprised at first, since they don't
>>do this in the US, and a bit amused, since they pretty much lumped at the
>>movie-goers, less than one fourth of the capacity, all in the same area
>>towards the back and middle of the theatre.
>
>  Here in Finland many (most?) of the theatres assign the seats. 
>  I prefer it this way.  No rush to get in the theatre to get the
>  best seats, for example.  If the theatre is nearly empty, the usher
>  often informs people that they may sit wherever they want (unless someone
>  has reserved that seat and wished to sit just there).
>
>  I just called a local theatre and reserved four adjacent
>  seats to the 18:30 show of "Death Becomes Her".  No hassle; I'll just
>  pick up the tickets at 6PM and that's that.
>

It seems that all the circuits in the U.K. now have facilities to allow
specific seat bookings. In my experience this is offered for the last
performance each day and for other shows likely to be busy. I find it
a great help under these circumstances. Last Saturday I booked a good
seat well ahead of the evening performance of "A Few Good Men" at the Odeon
in Chester (and was asked where I wanted to sit) so I could breeze into
the (full) theatre at the last minute.

I agree that on the odd occasion an almost empty auditorium has its seats
sold by number this is a nuisance. You feel you have to sit where the
ticket says - at least initially - as you know damn well that if you
choose another one it is bound to belong to the only other customer to
arrive.

                                                         Jeremy Perkins
From: toriver@flipper.pvv.unit.no (Tor Iver Wilhelmsen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Weird Movies
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:17:53 GMT
Organization: ProgramVareVerkstedet - UNIT


I have to add these:
  True Stories   (with Talking Heads music and David Byrne in the leading
role)
  The Favour, The Watch And The Very Big Fish  (British, with Bob Hoskins
and Jeff Goldblum - weird stuff)
  The Tall Guy (with the classic Elephant! musical, directed by Mel Smith.
This movie had a 10-year-old rating here in Norway despite the sex scenes,
I have heard the rating in the US of A was... a bit more restrictive. Also
with Jeff Goldblum)

- Tor Wilhelmsen
-- 
"I'm a Derek, and Dereks don't run!" - Dereks in 'Bad Taste'
toriver@pvv.unit.no
Standard disclaimer should apply to this, I guess...
"Reality is a poor escapism for people who cannot handle roleplaying" - Me
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From: alfa@b23a.b23a.ingr.com (Laura Walker)
Subject: Re: Weird Films and how we get to see them
Keywords: Flaming Creatures, Eraserhead, Slacker
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:06:50 GMT

I wholeheartedly agree.  It is a shame that we generally are not exposed to 
so very many good movies.  I can't stand Hollywood and boycott most studio
film and rarely go to the cinema. 

I try to see independent films whenever, wherever possible. But this is 
a pretty small city and I miss a lot. I salute MTV for its Liquid Television
program which has finally given short-subject artists an opportunity
for mass exposure. Unfortunately, I think the program's orginal originality
has been sold out for ratings.

Hey -- if you see a good film can you pass the info along, hopefully with
details on how I can access it.

(My dream is to open a coffee/film house in one of the old theaters in town,
kind of like they did in Tampa.  I saw Last Temptation of Christ at the
BeauxArts house in St. Petersburg, Florida -- Jim Morrison's old haunt. These
are my favorite memories - strange movies in strange places.)


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From: anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman)
Subject: Re: Bond books and movies
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:32:46 GMT

(Discussion of 1950's television version of "Casino Royale" deleted) 

|> Wrong movie.  You are thinking of the movie version of Casino Royale,
|> which starred Woody Allen, among others.  The previous
|> poster was referering to a much older TV version of the book,
|> which TNT unearthed somehow.
|> 

Wrong to you. I AM thinking of the 1957 (give or take a year) television version.
I assume you didn't watch it because then you'd know that Barry Nelson is an
American actor and Felix Leiter and the love interest kept referring to Bond as
"Jimmy" throughout the program.

BTW, I don't think Barry Nelson ever had a grip on the character. Neither did
David Niven in the movie version, come to think of it.

Anthony
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: x can't make money
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 17:12:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.030605.27375@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church) writes:
>In article <1ic5r1INNedq@transfer.stratus.com> jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com writes:
>
>>Your reasoning sounds good. However, remember that several of
>>the biggest blockbusters in history were long movies: Gone
>>with the Wind, Ben Hur, The Ten Commandments, Lawrence of Arabia.
>>There are others. All of these films are longer than 3 hours, and
>>all made tons of money.
>
>Were multiple showing of movies on the same day all that common when
>these movies came out? I came from Drive-in country where there was
>obviously only one showing per night anyway, but I seem to remember
>that being the general rule. It's been a long time though and I could
>be wrong.

In the period these films were made (especially "Gone With the Wind"),
double features were much more common than they are today.  Films were made
particularly to fill the lower half of a double bill.  Those were the
well-known B movies, with lower production values, lesser stars, and,
usually, shorter running times.  In most cases, patrons went to see
two films on a single bill (plus cartoons, a newsreel, perhaps a serial
chapter, and trailers - maybe live entertainment, too, in some theaters)
in the 1930's.  I believe that the common practice was to show the main
feature twice in an evening, the second feature once in between.  Really
big deal films, whether long or not, might not be shown with a second
feature, at least in big cities.

When dealing with a film as long as "Gone With the Wind" or "The Ten
Commandments", of course, there wouldn't be a second feature.

I'm not sure what matinee practices were.  They certainly had them on
weekends, but I don't know how common they were on weekdays.  At a guess,
I'd say they were very common during WWII, at least, as many people worked
night shifts during the war, and only had free time during the day.


-- 
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
From: dudley@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Karen Witkoski)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: The Weird List
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:16:47 GMT
Expires: 1 Feb 93 05:00:00 GMT
Reply-To: dudley@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Karen Witkoski)
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: NSWC, Annapolis, Maryland

In alt.cult-movies, sahle@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Eskinder Sahle) writes:
>Hi Folks:
>
>The list of weird, eccentric and original movies (more or less) has
>swelled to more than a hundred.  If you know of any that belong there,
>please post.  And also, if you have seen any of the movies in the list,
>it would help if you could post a rating you think the picture
>deserves (0-5).  I'll average things out and resend the list....

Have you ever seen:

Mundo (sp?) Trasho  (John Waters' Film)
Life of Brian (2)
Everything You Always Wanted to Know about Sex but were Afraid to Ask
Desperate Living (3.5)  (John Waters' Film)
Desperately Seeking Susan (3)
Mark of the Devil (3.5)
Yellowbeard (4.5)
Lust in the Dust (4)  (John Waters' Film)

I'll let you know if I think of any more.

KD
From: il@bambam.u.washington.edu (Il Hwan Oh)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Roger Erbert in Byte
Date: 6 Jan 1993 20:03:57 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Tacoma
Distribution: world
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Keywords: Erbert, Byte, Blade Runner

karlth@rhi.hi.is (Karl Thoroddsen) writes:
> Roger Erbert wrote an article for the Stop Bit column in Byte Magazine.
> He talks about computer generated charactes in movies of the future, a nice
> article but at one point he says (from memory): "It feels like Harrison Ford
> when he found out that Rachel Ward was an fabricant."  Given that he's
> talking about Blade Runner, shouldn't that be Sean Young?

Are you sure he didn't just say "Rachel"?  That's the name of the character.
If he actually said Rachel Ward, he's probably confused.

-- 
Il Hwan Oh                              | "You live and learn.
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University of Washington, Tacoma        |            -- Douglas Adams
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