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From: Pam.Richardson@f75.n375.z1.fidonet.org (Pam Richardson)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Police Response
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:24:23 GMT
Reply-To: Pam.Richardson@f75.n375.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:375/75 - Pam's, Montgomery AL
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25718

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Daniel,

Friday November 06 1992 02:20, Daniel Laflin wrote to Felix Game:

 FG>> I am reading this and I am wondering if Deaf signers would not
 FG>> be able to prevent this sort of ignorant misunderstanding if
 FG>> they wore medic alert bracelets like diabetics, etc, do? Some
 FG>> message like 'I am deaf and talk with my hands; don't cuff me'
 FG>> would at least alert any caring peace officer to the fact that
 FG>> he has an unusual "client" on his hands.
..

 > The bracelet would help AFTER the cuffing, after cuffing, and checking
 > to be sure the persons no threat, then the police should by law have to
 > uncuff one, else be SUED for civil rights violation.

Remember, ANY body can wear these bracelets if one was designed for
the hearing-impaired.  Plus, this would not require any type of
medical assistance, so some little thief might get some bright
ideas to wear one of these just in case (s)he gets caught.

 > If those who sign think they have it tough... well as a lipreader, ive
 > had police stop me at night, and their spotlight makes it impossiable to
 > lipread their words.

Maybe it needs to be implemented on the front of the driver's
license in this case, since they ask for it immediately.

Pam

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From: Jim.Graham@p0.f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Graham)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: re: Lousey Care
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:20:56 GMT
Reply-To: Jim.Graham@p0.f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/5109.0 - National Amputee Co, Dallas TX
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25698

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

Hello Wayne.  In a previous message you blurbbed:

>YOU REALLY HAD A LOUSEY EXPERIENCE AT THE MAYO CLINIKC!
>Was this at their pain clinic?

No.  I was admitted to St. Mary's, and "doctored" by a team from Mayo.

In fact, the doctor-team insisted that I should talk to their pain
clinic people.

They sent over a doctor from the clinic, and she told me that I was
NOT a candidate for pain management, contrary to the teams' opinions!

>In case you had the bad luck of drawing an angry doctor, why not

>try one more time someplace else?

The doctor leading the team wasn't "angry".  He was clearly a young
hot-shot that didn't listen to me.  At one point, he told me that
he was having a dentist come in to fix some dental problems and I
said: "Hang on, I'm here for my foot, not my teeth".  "Don't do anything
that will jeopardize my Workmen's comp. benefits.

His reply was "Screw what the insurance companies think.  We have
our own way of doing things here."

I kid you not!

>Where do you live now?

I live in Bloomington, Indiana (you know, Bobby Knight country?),
home of Indiana University.

>You may have mentioned this, but I have a lousey memory, how did

>your leg get messed up and when did this happen?

Believe it or not, this all began as a simple type-2 ankle sprain.

While descending a flight of stairs at work, I stumbled, inverted
my right ankle, and put full body-weight + momentum on the foot.

I haven't walked since.

>Good Luck November 3rd!

Thank you.  It's over, and I'm still waiting on the sympathectomy
to give me relief.  At this point, I have serious doubts.

>near upper spinal cord, brain & heart that we elected not to try

>an implant or dorsal stimulator.

Excuse my ignorance, but what does a dorsal stimulator do?

>Hope you don't have to try amputation.

In spite of the current situation, I still hope a miracle occurs.
 I'm a realist though, and I believe I'm pretty well prepaird for

the amputation.

continued next message...

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From: Jeffrey.Vandyke@f14.n279.z1.fidonet.org (Jeffrey Vandyke)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: weights, navels, etc
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:32:38 GMT
Reply-To: Jeffrey.Vandyke@f14.n279.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:279/14 - Project Enable, Dunbar WV
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25770

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

PN> JV> have someone push me 1/2 mile through 6" snow. Hate to tell ya,
PN> JV> but 15' on carpet ain't much! Moving those front wheels over,
PN> JV> though, is a _REAL BIG_ problem. Or did he have to push it up
PN> JV> your ramp? That's a killer. ;-(  The Steven Motor Chair and my
PN> JV> Ortopedia both were front wheel drive like the Permobile (but
PN> JV> totally different steering systems), so I know about that. I'm
PN> JV> glad Ray didn't keel over. It can be a real bear moving our
PN> JV> deluxe electrics. My sympathies.

PN>    Boy that must have been real fun. Cross your fingers and hope Ray doesn't
PN>get a chance to experience that this winter. When it died I was in the house,

  I don't envy _anyone_ having to push an electric (and my wife
has had to push me up our ramp on a number of occasions due to
bad electronics), not even if they're built like gorillas! The
best Christmas gifts you could get Ray _might_ be a back support
or a weightlifting belt, and a hernia belt!!! <g>

PN> PN> PN> JV> _My_ fuzzy navel doesn't do a thing for my wife! <burst out laff
PN> PN> PN>      Maybe if you added some liquor it would.
PN> PN> JV> Hmmm... might try that. <G>
PN> PN>    If that don't work maybe you should consider shaving.:)
PN> JV>
PN> JV> Sorry, I don't have a brush hog.  BTW, if you don't know what a
PN> JV> brush hog (and, living in the country, I can't believe you
PN> JV> don't), I'll explain it to you. <g>

PN>      Brush hog? That's got to be a regional colloquialism. Are you refering
PN>  ground hogs? We call them woodchucks or whistle pigs here.

  That's not an animal, it's a mower. It is usually about 6 feet
wide, is mounted on a 3-point (full-sized) tractor hitch. It is
used for mowing fields, highway right-of-ways, and anywhere else
grass is as tall as the tractor, and heavy brush and small tree
saplings need to be mowed. I think there really is a brand name
called that, too.
  Oh, and ground hogs are called ground hogs here. (unless you
want to call a ground hog: "sausage"! <ROLFMAO>)

-- Jeff

 * SLMR 2.1a * Member, Off-Road Wheelchair Association

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From: Sharon.Allsup@f361.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Sharon Allsup)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: free matter for the
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:50:19 GMT
Reply-To: Sharon.Allsup@f361.n109.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:109/361 - Den of Procrastinat, Herndon VA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25813

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 GP>      Right.  So, let's start with reality.  What would  one 3.5 inch disk
 GP> cost to send under standard conditions, and what about
 GP> 5.25 inch?  Then, we
 GP> can get to questions of whether such disks should be read by other people
 GP> to ensure that the sighted don't abuse our privilege.

Generally it is 52 cents to mail one diskette (either size) in a
mailer.  Some mailers are a bit larger and may run you 75 cents.
READ an entire disk just to make sure it's not abused?  Heck, I'd
rather pay you the postage so I would NOT have to read it.  ;)  (Is
this like paying farmers to not grow something?)

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From: esther@verdix.com (Esther Lumsdon)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: The act of voting
Date: 20 Nov 92 04:48:35 GMT
Reply-To: esther@verdix.com (Esther Lumsdon)
Organization: Verdix Corp
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25788

I suggest that you contact your local chapter of the League of Women
Voters.  Their purpose for existing is to encourage voters to register,
distribute unbiased information about candidates, and remove obstacles
to voting.  They will know exactly where to send complaints.
--
------ Esther Lumsdon   employed by, not speaking for, Verdix Corporation
     It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.
  esther@verdix.com  or  esther%verdix.com@uunet.uu.net
From: Bill.Koppelmann@p0.f809.n104.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Koppelmann)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Doggie And Me
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:53:02 GMT
Reply-To: Bill.Koppelmann@p0.f809.n104.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/809.0 - Fantasy Mountain, Golden CO
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25830

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 CA> so intent on his work.  It's a joy - and a trial - to work with him.
 CA> Mostly a joy now, but it used to be a trial sometimes.  I really did
 CA> seriously consider giving him up.
I went through that rather quickly after I brought her home and
thought that I was going to never make things work, but then suddenly
I got my 2nd wind, and I just got stubborn and said that I wasn't
gonna let no dog outstubborn me no way.  So I've hung in, and am glad
that I have.  She puts up with all my silly  ways and I do my best to
do the same as well.  Besides, Kathy just loves her and so does
everyone at all my meetings and church, so that helps.

>  My friend Cate Vanicek encouraged
 CA> me to stick with it and keep trying with him.
 CA> depressed was mostly when I considered giving sony up.
That's great that you were able to find some sort of support.  I can
tell you it's been a lot to learn, but I feel like I'm finally making
headway.
You should have seen her this morning when the big neighborhood cat
came along.  the cat hissed, but ole Maxi wasn't scared at that and
she got that cat on the run, believe me.  Something in me felt I
should let her have her head just enough to see what would happen
since I was right by my front door anyway.

 BK> I'm working on her with that, but I guess it's an ongoing process.
 CA> Yes, it is an ongoing process.  At first you keep on and on with it,
 CA> and it seems like you just don't make any progress with it, but
 CA> suddenly you realize that things are going more smoothly.
That's about the way it feels too.  She still goes faster than I
really wish she would, but even that isn't true all the time.
 BK> here.  So did you find your polling place.
 CA> No, I didn't.
Well htat's ok, he won anyway even without your vote. <grins>

BTW, have you or would you write me another net mail?  I have a
question I'd like to ask you.

                        Bill K.

... I bought some batteries, but they weren't included

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From: Cheryl.Traub@p0.f401.n250.z1.fidonet.org (Cheryl Traub)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Call display device for the blind
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:54:13 GMT
Reply-To: Cheryl.Traub@p0.f401.n250.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:250/401.0 - MetroHUB 4, Rexdale ON
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25836

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi everyone.  Does anyone know of a call display device for the blind, one
that will speak the number that the call is coming from.  I know there is
call display that you can get that a sighted person can look at and they know
exactly who is on the other end of the phone before they pick it up, but I'm
wondering if there's a call display that will speak the number instead.

... QWK? I don't need no stinkin' QWK packet!

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From: Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jack O'keeffe)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: BRAVO!!!!
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:28:46 GMT
Reply-To: Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/26 - SoundingBoard, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25747

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 HB> it seems to be easier for me to read women's lips!!! Why is
 HB> that??? Is it because they are more expressive then men? Or
 HB> that their faces are more attractive? <G>

Or is it just because most of them have less facial hair?  :-)
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From: Jim.Graham@p0.f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Graham)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Here goes...
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:20:45 GMT
Reply-To: Jim.Graham@p0.f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/5109.0 - National Amputee Co, Dallas TX
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25697

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

It's Monday November 9, and the sympathectomy I received on November
3 still has produced no relief.  However, I think the major side-effect
is finally showing up.

When I stand or sit with the leg un-elevated, the entire leg and foot
turn a rosy-red and becomes warm and dry to the touch.  I guess I
can at least say that the surgeon removed the right nerves!

Yesterday I noticed one other minor side-effect.  There is an area
about 3 inches wide by 5 inches high, just above the coccyx, that
is completely numb.

I mailed a letter today, to the chief neuro-surgeon at the Community
Hospital Center for Pain Management, and a copy to the center's
psychologist.

The letter will either make me out to be a crazy fool, or it will
accomplish its intended purpose.

Monday of next week I will be having a "conference" with both of the
above M.D.'s, and I thought a letter 1 week in advance would save
us all a lot of time and rhetoric.

Essentially, I have informed the doctors that I will pursue below-
knee amputation, with or without their assistance.  I explained the
logic that I used to arrive at this drastic decision, and told them
in no uncertain terms that pain management is tantamount to "giving
up" as far as I'm concerned.

This isn't to say that I have anything against those that choose it,
because it serves a very important purpose when all other surgical
"options" have been exhausted.

I dread the conference, and I'll be "pumping" myself up to face whatever
opposition that they may present (then again, there may be none).

If they don't cooperate, then my "adventure" to find complete relief
truly begins.

Wish me luck....

Jim Graham
The Portal Dolmen BBS (812)334-0418

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From: Ann.Stalnaker@f2120.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Ann Stalnaker)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: BRAVO!!!!
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:28:01 GMT
Reply-To: Ann.Stalnaker@f2120.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/2120 - Fingers Talk, Irving TX
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25741

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 JC> There are also other factors.  Moustaches, smoking, shadows,
 JC> rapidity of speech, accents, fatigue, emotions all affect
 JC> lipreading.

 ST>    Add eyesight to the list.

But, some of those factors can be worked out.  If I find someone
who is talking to me is standing in front of a light or where
the glare hampers me in seeing their lips and eyes, I just
simply move over to another direction.

I don't think the above factors are enough to keep one from
lipreading - well, at least not for me.

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From: Tandy.Way@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org (Tandy Way)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: is this true??
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:49:08 GMT
Reply-To: Tandy.Way@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:377/6 - T.A.B.B., Tampa Fl
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25809

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 I have oscar at work and arkenstone at home and found that although
 both use the calera recongnition software the arkenstone easy scan
 front end is supperior so I don't know what christopher hills problem
 is either especially since t.s.i. is not a friend of the blind.
 tandy

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From: Jeffrey.Vandyke@f14.n279.z1.fidonet.org (Jeffrey Vandyke)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: chairs, chairs, chair
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:32:28 GMT
Reply-To: Jeffrey.Vandyke@f14.n279.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:279/14 - Project Enable, Dunbar WV
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25769

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

PN> JV> strength has fallen enough I have to get a new seat that will
PN> JV> practically do gymnastics.

PN> gymnastics I had to have a ton of support systems added on. I have lateral
PN> supports that hold me upright and stop me from falling over side to side and

  I use a couple of removable ones for travelling in the van, but
they get in my way too much otherwise, even they're only 1/2" thick.

PN> thigh supports that keep my legs straight up. The calf pad for the standing

  You must look pretty funny with your feet so high in the air!
<smirk> Is that why you gave up wearing skirts? <smirky smirk>
<DUCK> OUCH!!!

PN>    I said 5yrs for me because I don't think I can get another one in less th
PN> that period through my insurance co. They tend to get a little bent out of g

  I'm pretty sure mine will ok it even though it's been only 3
years, but only because I've gotten so much worse in that time.

PN> PN>Keep track of that company. I can't save the original post from here
PN> PN>and Ray's got my printer hooked up to the other machine. He
PN> JV>
PN> JV> Duh, which company? I forgot already!?
PN> JV> <shameful look on my face> Actually, you will have to remind me.

PN>      The wheelchair company that you posted about in the original msg to me.
PN>   I  think they were down in Florida. That chair sounded so great, can't wai
PN>  to see how they do when they get the bugs worked out.

  OK, I remember now. I wasn't going to worry about it, because
they said it's _at least_ 2 years down the road, and you well
know that the first year of production of a chair always has
problems. <g>

-- Jeff

 * SLMR 2.1a * Member, Off-Road Wheelchair Association

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From: Jamal.Mazrui@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jamal Mazrui)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Artic Technologies
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:50:29 GMT
Reply-To: Jamal.Mazrui@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25814

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi Curtis!

I'm not sure whether you receive mail through BlinkTalk, but I'd
thought I'd try.  Just wanted to commend you on the letter you wrote to
Artic Technologies as reprinted in the November 1992 Braille Monitor.
I think you accurately and fairly represented blind consumer sentiments
about Artic's record in recent years.  I also think the Artic
represeentative who responded deserves commendation for addressing your
points with substance and grace.  Hopefully, Artic is getting the
message and the blind community will benefit from a more responsive
company.

Regards,

Jamal Mazrui

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From: Arthur.Saus@p160.f72.n376.z1.fidonet.org (Arthur Saus)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Russian Stim?
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:22:13 GMT
Reply-To: Arthur.Saus@p160.f72.n376.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:376/72.160 - Windows of the Worl, Columbia SC
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25705

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

Hello Bob!

11 Nov 92, Bob Paddock writes to All:

 BP>         My girl friends Chiropractor recommended that we find a
 BP> chiropractor that has a:

 BP>         "Interferential Russian Stimulator"

 BP> So far none of the 'conventional'
 BP> treatments, ie. drugs, MD's, DO's ect.., have relived her pain does any
 BP> one have any ideas?

I have never heard of the device you mentioned, so I would be
highly suspicious of any real effectiveness of this device, or of
practitioners who would use this to treat pain problems.  Since
"conventional" treatments have not given the results she is
seeking, I would recommend something that is a little
unconventional, but would have the best chance of helping with her
problem.  My recomendation would be for her to be evaluated at a
pain clinic, not just by the MD's and DO's she may have usually
been seeing.

Arthur

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From: Carlos.Costa@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org (Carlos Costa)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Carlos does it again!!!
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:12:17 GMT
Reply-To: Carlos.Costa@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3602/24 - ADAnet One (tm) Net, Pinson AL
X-Fidonet: Abled Athlete Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25839

[This is from the Abled Athlete Conference]

HI Everyone,
            I remember when I posted my last message about winning an
            award. Well, I have just been granted another honour. At the
            College that I happen to go too, hand out a number of
            different awards to salute their best. It turns out that I
            was one of those people. I have won the Fedelle memorial
            award for a person that has maintained good standard in
            their program while creating awareness for the disabled in
            general.
            Guess who was the winner of the award this year? Me!!! It
            was an honour to win this award. I'm glad that I had a
            chance to recieve such a honour.
              Thanks.
               Carlos..

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