HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rdg@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Rob Gardner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: device driver for 720
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:52:11 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA


> I have a customer who is trying to develop a device driver for a 3rd party 
> board, eisa, that plugs into a 720. They have the device drivers developers
> manuals.  They have found 2 things that the documentation references but
> does not explain.

Shocking ;-)

> 
> 1)a device driver configuration file is require, it should be supplied by the
> manufacture.  The format of this file is not defined, and the board is a
> custom design.  Where can I get info on what the configuration file should
> look like?

Page 1-5 in the DDG suggests these references:

	EISA Configuration Guide for HP-UX, part number B2370-90000
	Dealer Configuration File Creation Guide, part number D2230-90001

> 2) A "id" is required.  There is no specification of what the id looks like,
> how to create it, set it etc. Again please direct me to info on how to create
> the device driver id.

The id is read from the eisa card (at offset 0xC80 in its I/O space)
and passed into your attach routine (first argument). Is this what
you're talking about? Or are you asking how to create the id to be
programmed into the card? There might be some algorithm, but I think
it's also OK to choose a random 32-bit integer, since the chances
of collision with another vendor's id are small.

Rob
From: stuart@TIVOLI.COM (Stuart Jarriel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Interworks ftp system name
Date: 31 Jul 92 20:25:32 GMT
Organization: Tivoli Systems, Inc

I have lost my notes that told me the name of the iworks.*.uiowa.edu
system.  Does anyone have that handy?

sj
From: mech@sparc2.ikb.uni-essen.de (Thomas Mechlinski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Harddisks for HP9000/400t-Computers
Keywords: Harddisks, Hp9000/400t
Date: 31 Jul 92 08:54:27 GMT
Organization: University of Essen, Germany


Hi friends,
we have a HP9000/400t computer with two built-in RODIME-RO3000 SCSI-disks
(each 200 MB). One of these disks has defect sectors on it, and we 
want to exchange it with a new one. /etc/disktab mentions several disks
from other vendors, which are much cheaper than the devices from HP.

We are interested in the Quantum PD425S drive and the Micropolis 1588T (676MB).
The HP support told me, that this drives  are not supported in all HP9000/400
computers. 

Has anybody experience with this drives or other adequate disks for this 
machine? 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson))
Subject: Re: Host unusable when an NFS mounted disk is unavailable
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:36:24 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.163048.26854@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> pjw@loboa.jpl.nasa.gov (Peter Wolff) writes:
>We have an HP750 running 8.07.
>
>When a machine (whose disks are NFS mounted) goes down, 
>I can't do anything on the host machine until the machine 
>with the NFS mounted disk comes back up. 
>
>If I try to execute any command, such as pwd, I get a message like
>"NFS server coral not responding, still trying"
>and absolutely NOTHING happens. The prompt goes away and I 
>am unable to cancel the command. Why does this happen and how
>can I prevent it ?

You can try the 'bg' and 'intr' options in /etc/checklist:

#
# Mount / and /u1 from argentum.
#
argentum:/      /nfs/argentum/root  nfs  rw,suid,bg,hard,intr  0  0
argentum:/u1    /nfs/argentum/u1    nfs  rw,suid,bg,hard,intr  0  0

though many HP-UX commands require that every mountable file
system be mounted, or they'll hang forever (e.g. 'update').
I have not had much success getting out of 'df'/'bdf' commands
either when a NFS server is down.
-- 
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... and Slim just left town. -*- Mike Peterson, SysAdmin, U/Toronto Chemistry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Subject: Re: News Reader for HP 9000/827
X-Disclaimer: Not an official spokesperson for Ford OPEO
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
Organization: International Affairs, Overseas Engineering, "Fordz"
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 11:54:45 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.135319.18631@news.nd.edu>
mandell@bach.helios.nd.edu (Dan Mandell) writes:

:Now we are looking for a news reader. Any suggestions, recommendations 
:concerning locating an FTP-able source?

Newsreaders are always an "individual preference" sort of thing,
though I'd go with trn, tin, or nn.  Many news readers are available
for anonymous FTP from wuarchive.wustl.edu:/packages/news, but I'd use
archie to insure that you're getting the latest and greatest version.

						...Mike

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From: roskuski@lpoint.UUCP (Barry Roskuski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: 9000/340 running SLOWLY diskless under 8.0
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:55:35 GMT
Organization: Laserpoint Software Systems, Ludlow, Ma.


  We have a cluster of HPUX systems that is in the process of being upgraded
  from two 340's running HPUX 6.2 to a 425e and two 340's running HPUX 8.0

  If we boot the diskless 340 from the old 340 server the system happily run's,
  If we try to boot the same diskless 340 from the new 425 server, It takes
  about 45 minutes to boot, and then runs PAINFULLY slow afterwards. 

  Other relevant facts.

    pinging the system in this state reports 30-50% packet loss. We have tried
    swapping out lan cables and tee's to no avail.

    We have upgraded the 340 to 12 Mb memory to no avail.

    We have run this kernel configuration of 8 Mb 340's with no problem.

    vmstat reports nothing untoward going on.

    There are no processes hogging the system.

  I am at my wits end about things to look at. Does anybody have any ideas 
  about what the problem may be?

  Email may have trouble reaching me, try the addresses in the signature.

  Thanks.

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Laserpoint Software Systems
Ludlow, Ma.
From: dittrich@milton.u.washington.edu (Dave Dittrich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP1000/RTE question: How to read data to DOS/UNIX?
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:19:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: milton.dittrich.711735587
Organization: University of Washington

us048503@mmm.serc.3m.com (Art H. Hurst) writes:

>	Sounds like a job for Kermit. That should be much simpler than
>	the hassle of disk formats.

Funny, but every response I have gotten so far mentioned using kermit.
Assuming there is a serial port on the HP1000 (I only looked at the back
of the box quickly and saw no apparent ports), I still need a way to get
kermit IN to the computer.  Does anyone have kermit on their HP1000 who
could put it on floppy for me if I mailed one with return postage?
From: jel@creare.COM (Jeffrey E. Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: pcnfsd daemon
Keywords: pcnfs, daemon
Date: 23 Jul 92 12:25:20 GMT
Organization: Creare Inc., Hanover, NH

Hello Netter,
  I'm hoping you can help me.  I am looking for pcnfsd compiled version 2 for
a HP9000/380 workstation.  Can you direct me to an ftp site or send me the 
executable.  pcnfsd is a daemon that allows PC's to connect to the HP using
NFS.  Hope you can help.  I am current using version 1 of pcnfsd which came
with HP-UX 8.0.


ad(thanks)vance
Little Louie,

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From: stroyan@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Mike Stroyan)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:44:23 GMT
Subject: Re: File transfer between PC and HP 9000/720 using Kermit?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, jincai@archie.usc.edu (Jincai Chang) writes:

> We just installed an HP 9000/720 with HP-UX 8.05 and we use a PC
> running MS-Kermit (v 3.01) as a terminal.  I try to transfer files
> between the PC and the HP using Kermit.  When I escaped back to local
> Kermit and gave the receive/send commands, an error said "No response
> from host" then the file transfer failed.

There is a patch, PHNE_0899, for the serial driver that corrects problems
with kermit on HP-UX 8.05.  I use kermit to my HP95LX PC all the time.

Mike Stroyan, mike_stroyan@fc.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: alex@opal.idbsu.edu (Alex Feldman)
Subject: Re: trouble with HP-UX software support : solution idea
Organization: Boise State University Math Dept.
	<Bs1w1u.D87@ef2007.efhd.ford.com>
Date: 27 Jul 92 11:50:30

>>>>> On Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:56:18 GMT, mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor) said:
In article <Bs1w1u.D87@ef2007.efhd.ford.com> mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor) writes:

Mike> In article <1690008@hpkslx.mayfield.HP.COM> lou@hpkslx.mayfield.HP.COM
Mike> (Lou Kvitek) writes:

Mike> :We are currently nearing the end of an investigation into
Mike> :possible alternatives for providing proactive patching
Mike> :features to our customers.  Some features of this program
Mike> :will be rolling out over the next (approximately) 6-12 months.

Mike> #include <inferno.h>

Mike> A year?  <chuckle>

Mike> :Keep the inputs coming, and watch for some new features to
Mike> :help with your patching needs.

Mike> <holds breath>

Mike> Sorry if I seem a bit cynical, 

	[stuff deleted]

Apology accepted.  I think my previous posts established my
"credentials" on this subject, wherein I flamed HP employees for
saying things I felt were false.

Now Lou has given us an outline and a timeframe.  It's not perfect,
but it's a long way from the lame excuses I have seen coming from HP
employees in the recent past (on this subject, and IMHO, of course).

Surely a Ford employee understands the difficulty of getting a large
organization moving in another direction.  I want to applaud Lou for
going as far as he did, because you can be sure, there are a lot of us
ready to pounce in a year if nothing comes to fruition.  I hope HP
employees will continue read the net, make it part of the decisions
that are made, and tell us when we can expect to see what we have been
clamoring for.  I think this is a very positive development for news
readers. 

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From: gleichma@echo.egr.msu.edu (J. Alan Gleichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Rocky Mountain Basic
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:58:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: College of Engineering, Michigan State University

Does anyone out there have any info on Rocky Mountain Basic
for use on an HP system?

I am applying for a position where they use this for programming
and I am wondering what the features are of this language.


If you have any info please e-mail.


Thanks,

Alan Gleichman        gleichma@egr.msu.edu
From: flink@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com (Eric Flink)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:07:44 GMT
Subject: Re: why won't xcal expand evn with -geometry specified ???
Organization: HP Fort Collins, Co.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

> is this just a deficiency in the way the program is written??

Xcal is pretty simple-minded.  It sizes itself based on the font specified.
You can increase the overall size by picking a larger font, eg:

  xcal -fn user12x23
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.questions
From: bytor@milton.u.washington.edu (Jill Patterson)
Subject: Re: HP MPE NetIPC <-> BSD sockets?
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 18:03:26 GMT

markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Mark Bixby) writes:

>The June '92 issue of Interact magazine had an article describing the use of
>HP's NetIPC product on their MPE/iX operating system to communicate with BSD
>sockets on remote systems.  Is anybody out there doing this?  What version(s)
>of MPE/iX are you running?  My HP Sales Rep says that MPE/iX 4.0 is needed,
>although I'm skeptical.  Would any internal HP people like to confirm/deny 
>this?  Any insight would be appreciated.  Thanks.

Hi, I have successfully implemented the above topic.  After a few weeks of
digging, a few more weeks of calling everybody at HP, and local office people
and talking to people on the net  I was able to do this.  

Here is my environment and the tools I am using

SPOCK   -> HP3000 Series 980  MPE/XL ver 2.2
KIRK    -> HP3000 Series 950  MPE/XL ver 2.22

PICARD  -> 486/33 Server Lan Manager 2.1 Network
386/33  -> Workstation

HP's NETIPC
Microsofts Lan Managers Socket Development Toolkit ver 1.0

Basically myself and a fellow coworker used the source in the JUNE issue
of INTERACT.  Converted the PASCAL Code to COBOL (Not my job thank goodness),
and used BC++ 3.1 to run the client program on my workstation.

We could get KIRK(Client) to talk to SPOCK(Monitor, Server), and 
my Workstation(Client) to talk to another workstation(Server), but could not
get my Workstation(Client) to talk to SPOCK(Monitor,Server).


After many frustrating weeks, with getting a connection refused error, we
put a lan analyzer on the network to finde out where our packets were going
it seemed from the TCP/IP packets that it was getting to SPOCK, and SPOCK
was sending something back.  We decoded the Packet to find out that we were
connecting to the right port 31001.  Well, we couldn't understand what was
wrong, and after a few more weeks, we finally thought to analyze the traffic
between SPOCK & KIRK, and found that a programming bug had caused the
monitor program to look at port 1001, (I guess that\s what you get when you
convert PASCAL to COBOL).  Now we have it working, and are going on to get
a real TCP/IP program going.

Good Luck
  Mike Lorengo
  using Jill's account
  bytor@milton.u.washington.edu

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: system@aurum.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson))
Subject: Re: How to PARTITION a HP disk?
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:43:45 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.194424.880@inesc.pt> werner@freya.inesc.pt (Werner Vogels) writes:
>
>We have just bougth an HP710 with a 1.3 GB HP disk which is supposed to be
>an AFS fileserver. When I wanted to bring up the machine I wanted to
>partition the 1.3 disk for a root and a seperate filesystem partition.
>but nowhere I can find any reference to that this is possible under HP-UX.
>
>Is this true? It will mean that I have to buy anouther disk for the system
>and have one gigantic AFS partition on the 1.3 GB disk.....

You will have a hard time partitioning the boot disk - you'd have to
start over again and reload everything. We have partitioned our
second disk (which is standalone, not part of a striped set) on 
our HP 750 running HP-UX 8.07 with the following (I had to play
around with the /etc/disktab and '-i' option to 'newfs' to get the number
of inodes I wanted -- not many for /u1 for user files, and gazillions
for /news for news):

#
# SDS configuration file for this node.
#
# To rebuild the Fujitsu M2652SA disk partitions, do:
#    mediainit -v /dev/rdsk/5s0
#    sdsadmin -m -C /usr/local/etc/sdsadmin.config /dev/dsk/5s0
#    newfs -L -n -v -m 2 -i 12288 /dev/rdsk/5s1 HP_M2652Sx1-2
#    newfs -L -n -v -m 2 -i  2048 /dev/rdsk/5s2 HP_M2652Sx1-2
#
# Disk partitions:
#
# 1   /u1     130xxxx 1K blocks (/dev/dsk/5s1, /dev/rdsk/5s1)
# 2   /news    40xxxx 1K blocks (/dev/dsk/5s2, /dev/rdsk/5s2)
# -   -----   -------
#             1704981 1K blocks
#

type	M2652Sx1-2
label	u1_news

partition 1
   size 1300000K

partition 2
   size      max
-- 
What are the chances that any computer system will ever "work" properly?
.. and Slim just left town. -*- Mike Peterson, SysAdmin, U/Toronto Chemistry
From: mlevin@forte.cs.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: help me find HP/UX equivalents for these SunOs calls
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:14:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tufts University


    I have a huge program written for BSD systems (it runs fine on
SunOs and Ultrix). I want to port it to HP/UX; when I tried to
recompile, I got several problems. I do not have a HP doc set (yet),
so if anyone would email me (at mlevin@presto.cs.tufts.edu) any
information on the HP/UX equivalents to the following BSD issues, I
would be very grateful. Here goes:

1. The macros for the wait3() call don't seem to work. On BSD, I used
an argument of union wait *; it appears that on HP/UX the argument is
an int. Can someone provide an example of a wait3() call on HP/UX
followed by an example of the use of those WT* macros that extract the
status from the wait3() result?

2. What is the deal with openlog() on HP/UX? How does it differ from
openlog() on SunOs?

3. There doesn't seem to be a TIOCNOTTY constant for the ioctl() call.
On SunOs, this constant tells the system you don't want to have a
control terminal for this process. How do you do that on HP/UX?

4. There doesn't seem to be a flock() function. What is it's
equivalent on HP/UX?

5. The constant HO doesn't seem to be defined in curses.h (it should
contain the string which homes the cursor on a particular terminal).
Where is it on HP/UX?

6. There doesn't seem to be a sys_siglist[] (a char ** array with the
names of signals in it). Is there one?

7. There doesn't seem to be a setpriority() call. What is its
equivalent on HP/UX?

8. What function does one use under HP/UX to test for the CPU type (in
order to make sure a program is used only on the CPU for which it is
intended)? What .h file contains the possible CPU type constants?

If anyone knows the answers to any of these questions, please email me
at mlevin@presto.cs.tufts.edu.


Mike Levin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: rogers@eagle (Bill Rogers)
Subject: Need:POSTGRES or OODB's
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Organization: Sangamon State University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:33:23 GMT

Hello, 
Has anyone ported POSTGRES or any other OODBMS to hp-ux 8.x? ANy ftp sites
or horror stories would be apprecieated?

Bill

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson))
Subject: Re: NFS, HP730 and Apollos
Keywords: NFS HP730 Apollo
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 04:18:24 GMT

In article <1710@prlhp1.prl.philips.co.uk> pearmana@prl.philips.co.uk writes:
>
>We have an HP730 which mounts the whole of our Apollo ring onto /apollo.
>We have about 50 Apollos.
>
>Basically it mounts  apollo1://  onto /apollo
>
>so that in /apollo you get apollo1, apollo2, apollo3 etc etc for each 
>Apollo on the Apollo network.

In general, Domain nodes are horrible NFS servers (and clients),
even with NFS 2.3; and, you have bottlenecked all your NFS traffic
through your token ring gateway system and "apollo1" (which may
be the same node). I hope those nodes are top-of-the-line
DNxxx(x) systems, whatever that is these days (our DN2500, DN4500
and DN10000 systems have so many NFS hesitations they are next
to useless since all our home directories are on HP-UX systems).

Note that as of NFS 3.0 on Domain, it will be strongly discouraged
to mount your entire Apollo file system this way; you should use
the "normal" NFS mounting scheme of mounting each node separately
on other nodes. You may want to use the automounter to deal
with 50+ mounts on the HP - make sure you get the HP-UX
automounter patches so your HP doesn't go belly up the first
time an Apollo crashes/reboots.
-- 
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... and Slim just left town. -*- Mike Peterson, SysAdmin, U/Toronto Chemistry
From: paul@eye.com (Paul B. Booth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: on -i broke; patch?
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 18:38:31 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: 3D/EYE, Inc.  Ithaca, NY

Howdy-

Came across a situation today where I need to do an "on -i" command to a 700
machine running 8.07.  It hangs, of course.  Yeah, this is a known 8.07 bug,
but the official fix is not to be made until 9.0 -grrrr.  Anybody know if
there's an 'unofficial' patch available _now_?

Or maybe there's another solution:  What I really want to do is to run rdump
on a bunch of remote machines from my workstation.  I need to be able to
interact with the remote rdumps to change tapes, etc.  All this happens inside
a shell script, so contacting the remote systems via rlogin or telnet is no
good.  Remsh or plain "on" don't work because they don't allow me to interact
with the remote rdump (it bitches about not being able to open /dev/tty and
exits).  "on -i" works _very_ well for 300's, but hangs on the 700's.  It there
another way to contact a remote machine to execute a command _and_ maintain
terminal control that I've forgotten?

Thanks!


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: sieler@allegro.com (Stan Sieler)
Subject: Re: COBOL on S800 8.x?
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:40:59 GMT
Organization: Allegro Consultants, Inc., Redwood City, CA
Keywords: COBOL 

The HP COBOL compilers for 9000/8xx HP-UX machines *are* non-HP compilers!
As I understand it, they are MicroFocus COBOL compilers.  HP has chosen
to disregard requests from its users and *not* to release its internally
developed COBOL compilers (the ones that run under MPE XL (MPE/iX)).  Instead,
in a bizarre action, they have implied that MF COBOL may become available
on MPE!  While this is one way to address the problem of not having the
same COBOL on both machines, it certainly isn't the best way.

                                        
Maybe this question can be pursued at the Interex/InterWorks conference
in August.

stan sieler
sieler@allegro.com



Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.sgi,comp.unix.questions
From: datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri)
Subject: Re: moving tar file on DAT (4mm) tape between HP and SGI???
Keywords: DAT DDS SGI HP
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:25:30 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

Byte-order foo.  dd conv=swab it off the tape, piped through tar.

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