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From: dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell)
Subject: Re: Eno
Organization: University of Illinois School of Music
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:18:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.163535.28057@cs.tcd.ie> scollins@cs.tcd.ie (Steven Collins) writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.182443.13899@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (non-carbonated) writes:
>>
>>Just wondering:  How does Brian Eno's latest album compare to the
>>likes of Tangerine Dream/CHill Out/Orb/etc.
>>
>
>Eh, ...., what?  That's 3 separate questions.  TaDream, Orb and Chill
>don't sound anything remotely similiar.  Anyway, Nerve Net, Eno's latest
>doesn't really compare to any of the above.  Its a little more
>unconventional.  The most accessible track is probably Fractal Zoom

OOPS!!! Sorry, gang...eEno's _last_ album was "Nerve Net". Eno's _new_ album,
by just a couple of weeks, in fact, is "The Shutov Assembly", which is a 
collection of his ambient material from 1985-1990 (and, supposedly, the first
in a whole series of "tracks from the ambient vaults" discs).
	And, yes, if you like TDream's _older_ material (like "Zeit" or "Alpha
Centauri"), the "beatless" sections of "Chill Out", and the same sorts of
things off of the Orb's material, you're gonna _love_ this. I spun thru the
disc in its entirety, no mixing, last night for my radio audience on WEFT
here in Champaign/Urbana.


>
D.A.C. Crowell
Computer Music Project/School of Music
University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
(dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu)
From: chris@ida.csd.uu.se (Christian Bartholdsson)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: SHAMEN invade my HEAD... and FSOL Q's
Date: 17 Nov 1992 12:43:27 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
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In article <1992Nov16.110737.28031@gssec.bt.co.uk>, squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg) writes:
> >>Stakker Humanoid - worth it ???
> 
> I just got it the other day , as I haven't heard it since 1886/87 ( I think) ,
> and it's absolutely fabulous !

Wow!  Talk about early techno pioneers!  :-)

- chris@minsk.docs.uu.se
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From: tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Todd J Sines)
Subject: Re: Cleveland Rave??
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:54:57 GMT


yes, it is RAVIN BRAN and it is on 27 nov 92, which is

next friday!


featuring: live pa's : body release, orgaz, and theory collapse

dj's : rob sherwood, mike filly, dieselboy, ian mariano, and john daugherty.

11pm-6am

all ages

more to come


call at 216.892.3373 in cleveland or 614.299.9529 in columbus


sines
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From: angrish@crabapple.cis.ohio-state.edu (yogesh angrish)
Subject: Re: Looking for hard-edged TECHNO!
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:07:03 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.203629.4661@verifone.com> c_joey_n1@verifone.com writes:
>DIn article <Bx9A55.BpL@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, cs125b55@ih-nxt08.cso.uiuc.edu (cs125 student) writes:
>> Does anybody have Kickin' Records' _Mental Detergent_ or any other
>> techno album by that Kickin'/Instinct label.The only CD I got from
>> that label is Moby's _Moby_.  Tell me what _Mental Detergent_ or the
>> other CDs are like.  I am looking for techno albums/compilations that
>> have very aggressive sounds (one or two ambient is okay with me).
>> I like stuff like "This is Muthaf-----" by Digital Boy, "Sword of
>> Blue Flame" by Voodoo Transmission, "Sonar System" by Meng Syndicate,
>> and "Cosmotrash" by Trashman.  Walter Dao did a review on _Techno Mancer_
>> saying that it has hard-edged, high BPM techno, which is the stuff I like.
>> But, I found a copy of _Techno Mancer_ by Caroline Records and it has 
>> stuff like "A Million Colors" by Channel X and other stuff from that
>> Jade 4 U/O. Adams posse.  I personally don't like that stuff, because
>> most of the stuff in _Rave 'Till Dawn_ was popular and weak.
>
>Well I got Kickin' Mental Detergent.  Pretty good compilation.  Got stuff like
>Messiah, and others.  Rave Til Dawn however, I might disagree a bit, even tho
>the songs are a bit played out, they're still good.
>
>
>Well only my opinion, does it make a difference?
>

I just bought Kickin' Mental Detergent yesterday.  *my first techno CD*
I have to buy a CD player next ;)

I played it on my roommates player and loved every second of it. Too bad,
my roommate didn't :-(

yogi.

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From: djts@dcs.ed.ac.uk (David Sumpter)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Rave is dead.
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:05:54 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

In reply to jwhwang@c50025-114ps.ie.ncsu.edu,

Yes, we are behind you in the music made in the US, but what I'm saying is US music
and British House is better than the shit rave that everyone goes on about in this
column. I'm just listening to 'Understand This Groove' and it is the song of Summer
'92. Rave is crap, only spotty students, or beer guzzling 'hardcore u know the score'
posse, or guys with their tops off like that bollocks. Rave was quite nice for a bit
but not anymore. 

Rave was a fad, Dance music will live forever.

David
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From: tfischer@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Thomas C. Fischer)
Subject: Chicago raves on 28th
Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications (NCSA)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:30:14 GMT


Ok, Chicago ravers, what's it gonna be on the 28th?

Deliverance or Animotion Razamataz???

Any insights are appreciated...

tom

tfischer@ncsa.uiuc.edu
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From: jwhwang@eos.ncsu.edu (JOAN WU HWANG)
Subject: Re: Rave is dead.
Originator: jwhwang@c50025-114ps.ie.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jwhwang@eos.ncsu.edu (JOAN WU HWANG)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 13:37:26 GMT


> On 18 Nov 92 10:49:45 GMT, djts@dcs.ed.ac.uk (David Sumpter) said:
>
>>  David> The dance song of the moment, not available in Britain yet, is 
>>  'Follow Me' by Alias.
>> 
     On 18 Nov 92 03:36:58,  xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU 
     (The Crossjammer) replies:

> That's Aly-us. And if that's the dance song of the moment in the UK you
> guys are 6, count 'em 6 months behind.

   just an observation I've made, europe and the u.s. tend to be AT LEAST
6 months to a year behind one another: in music, fashion and trends in
general...check out what's hot on one continent. chances are, shadows 
of it can be seen as far as a year back on the other continent...no 
need to quibble
From: mcsdc1rs@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: <None>
Date: 19 Nov 92 11:58:32 +0100
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

Has any one read THE BIBLE(not the real one the awsome 101 edition)

it is really funny

It totally rips the shit out of scottish newspapers and their 

fixation with ecstasy and the rave culture.

They do an article and insteat of writing it about e's they

change the subject to alcohol and list the effects of alcohol

and the varied cultures which surround it

making it sound really shady 

GET THE BIBLE 

ITS WORTH A READ

AND ITS FREE 

THERE IS STILL A COUPLE IN GROUCHO'S IF YOU WANT ONE
From: cs92bbm@brunel.ac.uk (Benjamin Middleton)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: ~~~ Classic Techno List ~~~ Contribute Now ~~~
Date: 16 Nov 92 09:45:53 GMT
Reply-To: cs92bbm@brunel.ac.uk
Organization: Noaksie's Bass Plum Control Factor


I am in the process of compiling a list of classic techno (UK and US). Once
finished, it will be distributed on the newsgroup (if small enough) or placed
on an ftp server. If you wish to contribute, send me a message with the
following contents:

Subject: Classic Techno

Track: (track name here - if not known put untitled)
Artist: (artist/writers)
Label: (record label name - if not known put n/a or white or something similar)
Date: (approximate date released - if not known put n/a)

Track: (track name here)
.
.
.etc

I would also be interested in the group's response to such a list.
NB This is strictly a techno list - I am organising others for house/garage
later.

TIA - Ben.

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From: donato@applix.com (Donato Miranda [ext 241])
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: TV Commercial Techno
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:34:12 GMT
Organization: Applix, Inc., Westboro, MA

In article <wright.722356360@latcs1.lat.oz.au> wright@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Michael G. Wright) writes:
>Here in Oz, the new Coke ad has "Everybody's free" by Rozalla. It's been
>pretty hacked up though.
>
>-- 

	just saw a nintendo ad (on Fox) that used "cubik".
	oh well!!

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From: alfarris@mothra.syr.EDU (Andrew L. Farris)
Subject: WANTED: Roland TR909
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 13:46:38 EST

I'm posting this for a friend so please do don't reply or email me with info:

> WANTED : Roland TR909 Rhythm Composer
>     Raving Lunatic seeks Roland TR909 drum machine for Techno project.
>     If you have any info on where I might be able to obtain a used TR909
>     or have one yourself that you want to get rid of call Brian (me) at
>     (914)238-1641, and please leave a message!
>

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From: mei172@cch.coventry.ac.uk (guru)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: RE. a pissed off Guru
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:33:55 GMT
Organization: Coventry University

In article <BxtHJy.DIL@brunel.ac.uk> cs92bbm@brunel.ac.uk writes:
>
>Thank goodness. Shmart one Mr Quigg.

guru sez:
	was I mistaken, or were these two of the guys who were writing to
	the effect that ravers are happy, jolly people who bear no-one any
	malice?

	Hmm....
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From: labmsp@emory.edu (Matthew Pease)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.synth
Subject: wanted CV/gate-->midi conv
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:04:00 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rave
Organization: Emory University Computing Center

Hello,

I am looking for a CV/gate <--> midi convertor so I can use my roland
with midi.  Could someone please sell me one or point me in the right
direction?

Thank you
Sys X
From: mcsbc3ktp@dct.ac.uk (Kirk Potter)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Hardcore will be no-more
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:48:38 GMT
Organization: should be a Uni!! Stuff the tories!!!

-- 
A lot of British tabloids recently have been publishing articles about rave 
music being 'dead'. I personally think that is a load of crap!, but I do ask 
myself where these papers get there information from?? Does the Daily Record
call up its mail boy who happens to have a Nickelson jacket and say "hey son,
whats 'appenin' in the rave scene", to a reply of "oh its dying out mate", and
then they publish an article on this? 
  I do realise this is an extreme example but _what_ gives them the authority
to publish such unfounded crap. If anyone could say rave was dead then it would
be us, the people who listen to the music, buy the new releases, some of us are
DJs, rave promoters, and some of us (like me) just have a great love for the
music.
  Personally I don't think rave is dead, because the word rave encompasses so
many different types of music, which we all know, and was evident from the 
recently publish FAQ. I think the hardcore "lets kick some ass" music is going,
certainly here in Britian, the case in the U.S. and Oz may be different but I 
think they will go the same way eventually. 
  House music is back, but with more energy than before, the good old Italian
style piano is back, and happy lyrics are here again. Gone are the days of
2 hours of pure bass at 140 bpm+, and some MC shouting obscenities at the
assembled masses of a rave with a capacity of 20,000. 
  Warehouse parties are a thing of future, and not a thing of the past. Half
the fun was trying to find the rave in a field somewhere, rather than crashing
out 20+ quid to go to some airport hanger etc. where the atmosphere is as good
as 'Club Crud' that Stephen Quigg described a few postings back.
  Okay I have said what I want to say....I may be totally wrong (I usually am)
but looking from the outside in...this is the way I see the whole scene going...
and IMHO it will be for the better (See : Bare Skin Hooligans (A posting a made
a few days back))

Happy partying....

KIRK
(See sometimes I can produce sensible postings *8)  )

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From: ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marius   )
Subject: Re: RAVES in Champaign-Urbana, IL?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:16:41 GMT


Hello... this is RaveBoy Wayne (pun pun pun)

Anyway...

As for raves in Champaign;

Get a cluE

(note the capital E)

I hear there's a big Unity Rave in Chicago over New Year's.
E system, ripe, tbp, etcetera.
Come and find out what a real ravE is.

(note the capital E again)

getting a cluE,

-- referring to raves in Champaign, again --

not bad for a party, good ideas, but don't play out the name
"rave."  There's no comparison.

Maybe Mashed Potatoes and Ravey... in some barn...
say, oh, 20,000 watt system, James Johnson, Derek Carter,
Hector Lopez... now you're talking RAVE!

Later,

Wayne Beals
domnatr@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
.
From: mikes@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Shou-Yung Shum)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Rave compilation
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:09:03 GMT
Organization: Rice University

In article <1992Nov20.035404.9740@spdc.ti.com> tinoco@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Antera Tinoco) writes:
>Hey kids!!!  I have been reading this group for a while and thought I'd
>venture to ask a question of you reality challenged rave enthusiasts.
>I bought a "Only For The Headstrong-The Ultimate Rave Compilation" CD
>today and I was wondering how much this covers of the rave music scene.
>
it's good for archival purposes... in other words, can you say
ANCIENT PLAYED-OUT SHIT?  i have it, and everything on it sounds really
dated at this point.

yours,m
From: aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Steven J.)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: House of Euphoria, Cincinnati
Date: 23 Nov 1992 16:52:43 GMT
Organization: Jobs With Peace at UWM
Distribution: world
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disc@quads.uchicago.edu (Little Fluffy Cloud) writes:
[text deleted]
: 
: If the party was dope, the party was dope.  I wasn't there.  I shouldn't
: complain.  I have had fun at legal parties and illegal parties.  It's just
: that if a party goes off and it's legal, and a party gets busted and it's
: illegal, one cannot draw the conclusion that all illegal parties will be
: busted and one must run a party legally in order to be fun.  Grave Rave was
: busted for many reasons.  An irresponsible promoter was one of those reasons.
			       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I'm wondering what you're referring to here.  I'm not trying to start a
flame-war, I'm just curious as to what you know that most of us don't.

: A greedy police department was another.  The entire event was a public
: embarrassment for the city of Milwaukee, and I think this will set precedence
: fo law enforcement officials in dealing with raves around the country.  GAn
: incedence such as this will assuredly never happen again, with the national 
: press it has received and the overwhelming negative criticism.

Something for the FYI drawer ... the person who got the idea to bust Grave in
such a major way was one of the city attorneys.  Two years ago he was living
next door to a rental property which was inhabited by some frat-type
students here at UWM.  They held a fairly large party, which used to happen
quite a bit in the area until this event.  On a certain Saturday night this
city attorney came home only to find this party going on.  He called the
cops, they showed up and asked the folks to tone it down.  When the city
atty. heard this he marched over, flashed his credentials and threw his
weight around.  The only reason this party got busted was because he wanted
quiet.  What does this have to do with Grave?  Well, the individual in
question has had a vendeta going on for years now as far as young people
having a good time.  I'm not sure how much greed plays into this.  Many of
the cops there at Grave just couldn't understand what all the fuss was about
once they got inside and saw exactly who we were and what we were all about.
Just my $.02 worth...


______________________________________________________
Steve J. White
my virtual spheres of consciousness can be reached at:
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From: cacclin@fraser.sfu.ca (Stephen Cacclin)
Subject: ATTENTION: Techno Musicians
Keywords: demo techno compilation music tech17
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 10:21:21 GMT

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From: bt178@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David James)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Utah Saints in Cleveland?
Date: 20 Nov 1992 20:11:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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A friend of mine just told me he herd an announcment
for a Utah Saints gig in Cleveland. If anyone has any
info please post! Thanx.


-- 
      b t 1 7 8 @ c l e v e l a n d . F r e e n e t . E d u

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From: MOOREWD@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Baphomet 93)
Subject: Re: Questions:
Organization: Fuzzy Logic Laboratories
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:15:24 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.21

In <1992Nov15.081353.2111@ennews.eas.asu.edu> swaits@slab.pr.erau.edu writes:
 
> 2.  I would like to hear some other's opinions on the Radikal Records label.
>     Every piece of vinyl I have bought from this label has been great if not
>     very decent.

Well, IMHO, every piece of vinyl I have bought from this label has been boring,
commercialized techno, if not downright pop fodder.


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From: squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Best UK DJ
Date: 16 Nov 92 10:53:57 GMT
Organization: BT Glasgow Systems and Software Engineering Centre, Scotland.

In article <1992Nov13.142124.1363@dct.ac.uk>, mcsbc3ktp@dct.ac.uk (Kirk Potter) writes:
|> -- 
|> Who do you think is the best British DJ??? (ie. Technical ability, music they
|> play, audiences they attract etc.)
|> 
|> KIRK 

-- 
In my opinion , either Andrew Weatherall , 'cause I love his remixes , and I've
met him in the flesh , or maybe the SLAM crew (Ord Meickle and whassisname!) , 
who regularly pull in a great crowd in Glagow on a Friday at Club Loco , and a
Saturday at the Sub-Club , and the Slam Raves spoke for themselves in the
credibility ratings ,as they were always busy ,and everyone loved them ....

I would love to see Carl Cox working those 3 decks !

Other good DJ's :
	Danny Rampling
	Fabio and Grooverider
Stephen Quigg
squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk 
British Telecom , GSSEC , Glasgow
(Nothing in any of my mail represents my Employer in any way)
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