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From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,ca.driving
Subject: Re: Red light at 3AM - moral question?
Date: 11 Dec 92 23:07:00 GMT
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In <1992Dec10.205530.5751@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund) writes:

>In article <thurlow.724011426@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:

>>ObPeeve: people who think people on bicycles are explosive.

>I was, at no time, refering to cyclists

Well gosh, I'm sorry I followed up your article, then.  I'll go pout now.

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
"Sometimes it feels like the sun just comes up out of habit,
 And goes down as quick as it can,
 These days, you just have to grab it as it goes by."
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.women,soc.men,ba.singles
From: obrien@netcom.com (Robert O'Brien)
Subject: Wholesale, retail, whatever, it's still there...
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 07:16:46 GMT

In The Thread that Would Not Die(tm),

madhaus@netcom.com (Maddi Hausmann) writes:
>           [...]       I'd just tell him "Hasta la vista, baby."
>
>This whole argument is akin to complaining that the ocean is wet.
>

even with glimmers of sentience like this, I'm going to continue
to kill the "Pre-Sex Contract" (and abort its progeny) because
I concluded the above with about the third reply along...

every few days, I skim a little of it, but you're still flogging
the same equine carcass.

not to demand that anybody in particular drop it and let it die,
but the rest of us might miss the contributions of a few of you to
threads where people still haven't irrevocably made up their minds.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: What is NOT attractive to "SINGLE" men
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:25:55 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.072725.16388@unislc.uucp> erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp) writes:
>Lauren L. Crawford (crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu) wrote:
>
>: It seems that while women worry about unacceptable appearance, men worry
>: about unacceptable performance -- not just sexual, but in all kinds of
>: areas.  Each sex seems to look at the other and say, "Why on earth are you
>: worrying about something as trivial as _that_?  You look/did just fine."
>
>I think that's because society programs men, too.  You have to be strong,
>tall, capable, with well-defined muscles, or you won't get the woman.  So
>says Madison Ave.  Too bad so many women have bought into it, too. <sigh>

EVW alert. BWOOP BWOOP BWOOP. Please proceed directly home. Bolt your
doors, lock your windows. Lift that barge, pull that thing.
 
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: MICH <MICH@UNB.CA>
Subject: Re: Unlurking Alert
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:31:21 GMT


>Once my plight became known to the net.knights my ratio of requests for
>dates numbered as the stars in the heavens.  Alas, my mighty steed is
>unable to transport me past the boundries of Austin so I shall have to
>think of what could have been.
>

 What a drag. To think that I was in San Antonio back in April and
 could have high-tailed it up to Austin for the possibility of a date.
 Oh well, I guess we're just victims of geography. Love that Tex-Mex
 food though.



  Jamie Mitchell
  Harriet Irving Library
  University of New Brunswick, Canada
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rossi@mtu.edu (Rossi)
Subject: Re: Giving and Receiving
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:38:02 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.225108.23380@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>
>having to bother with makeup) a friend of mine dropped by and presented me
>with a fairly large rock that, near as I can tell, was a random one that he
>had picked up along the roadside.  He seemed so proud of it, I couldn't bring
>myself to hurt his feelings by mentioning that I really didn't want a rock
>in my bed, but after he left, I did get someone to put it somewhere else.

   He read the storybooks.  He wanted to see if you were a real princess.

>So, as a general rule, if you're going to give someone who recently 
>underwent surgery a rock, it's a good idea to make sure it's clean, not
>too large, and either shiny or containing a fossil or something.  (These
>rules may be relaxed somewhat if you put the rock on a shelf instead of
>in bed with the person in question.)

   And make sure it floats.

>Trygve   (Who will be mobile again in just a few months, though 
>          getting through airport metal detectors may never be easy again.) 

   Poor, poor guy.  He's so nice too.  (I did not use those two words
(you know which two)  Somebody help me it must be Christmas!!!!!!!!!!!)

My favorite gifts.

  Backrubs and hugs - no rules - how touching

(I must be ill)

   songbird
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil)
Subject: Re: Females have it easy!
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 04:45:10 GMT

jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:

>In article <JoeMan.7.724562272@> JoeMan@ (Joe Tooman) writes:
>>Not to bitch or anything, but it seems to me that the female does not have
>>any problem finding a guy anytime she feels like she wants a relationship.
>>As a guy, I find that it is very hard to find a female that seems intrested.
>>I have a good personality and I am told I rate an 7 on a scale from 1 to 10
>>looks wise.  In my last relationship, my SO always commented how a guy would
>>ask for her phone number once a day on average, while I have never been asked
>>once for my phone number except by some undesirables.  Maybe it is I don't do
>>something right, or am not that persistant, but I am sure envious of women
>>at this point.  I am moderatly shy, but that will not stop me from asking
>>a woman I am intrested in for her phone number, but it would be a whole lot
>>nicer if it was the other way around!  Oh well, what do you guys think...

>I think that 7 on a scale of 10 is meant to make you feel good and
>explains your predickament.

I just re-read the original message and I think I know the problem.  When
you ask a woman for her phone number, do you get to know her first or is it
just that you go up to some woman you find attractive and say, "Hey!  Could
I get your phone number?"

Heck, if you have impressed her with your wit and charm and intelligence and
sincere interest rather than just relying on your 7 on a scale of 10 looks,
you might do better.  I'm more likely to respond favorably to a guy who has
indicated that he is an interesting person.  If some guy I barely know comes
up to me and asks me for my phone number, I'm not likely to give it to him.

Sharon
oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu
From: seghers@hpkslx.mayfield.HP.COM (David Seghers)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 01:24:57 GMT
Subject: Re: Over 40 and single....Anyone that "OLD"?
Organization: HP Response Center Lab
Newsgroups: soc.singles

>/ hpkslx:soc.singles / aa752@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Louise Billi) /  4:09 am  Dec 14, 1992 /
>
>Over 40 (just a tad) women have a terrible time of it.
>Men in that age group are all looking for the young "Tenderoni"
>to make him feel like a kid again.  Can't men realize that 
>most younger women see them as either a "Father Figure" or
>a "Sugar Daddy"?  Is that what they really want in a mate?
>

The best quote I can remember on this was from a TV show -

"I'm not dating a younger woman so I can feel young again, I just
want to *feel* someone young again!"  (I forget which show, it
died the well deserved death of most TV shows...)

But now that I've turned 40 I guess I have to change my ways  
and stop dating older women...  More seriously, I dated a much
older women back before it was fashionable. It worked out fine
for about 10 years.  So take heart.

I've dated older women, I've dated younger women.  I appreciate
both.  Now the lady I date happens to be younger.  So What!!!


David Seghers (seghers@hpcc01.HP.COM) 415-691-3730

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: mel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Meloney D Cregor)
Subject: Re: Picking up the Tab (was: Re: What is gold-digging?)
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:44:01 GMT

In article <8059@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
>This sounds like a good idea to me too.  However, given my current financial
>state, I could *maybe* affort McDonald's for two.  I guess that means I
>just can't ask anyone out until I inherit money, or something.  

Or ask somebody who likes McDonalds.  Maybe lunch?

--
              For flavor, instant sex will never supercede 
              the stuff you have to peel and cook. 
                                  -- Quentin Crisp
From: diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Kissing Frogs
Date: 12 Dec 92 16:48:51 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Dec12.004306.23870@netcom.com> cocoa@netcom.com writes:
>One of my best friends sent me a wonderful card with a very similar sentiment.
>
>It read:
>
>"What's the difference between a Nice Guy and a Jerk?"
>"Nice Guys become Jerks later on."

This reminds me of something one of my friends (one of my MALE friends,
mind you) says about men.

"All men are either clueless or assholes.  If you meet one who seems
 to be neither, he's probably an asshole."

Hi, little 'e'!

				--Beth			

diamond@acpub.duke.edu| We cross our bridges when we come to them and burn
Elizabeth S. Abrams   | them behind us, with nothing to show for our progress 
		      | but the memory of the smell of smoke, and the  
                      | presumption that once our eyes watered. -Tom Stoppard
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (Piglet)
Subject: Re: Picking up the Tab (was: Re: What is gold-digging?)
Organization: clearly, none
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 03:40:46 GMT

In article <8103@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.212122.17026@cbnews.cb.att.com> eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (Piglet) writes:
>>Piglet, working to increase the numbers of women.asking.men.out
>
>I DO ASK MEN OUT!  IdoIdoIdo.  Really.  Truly.  
>
>I had to listen to a male friend bitching about this last night, and I
>never know quite what to say.  I mean, *I* ask men out, so what more am
>I supposed to do about it?

Yeah, I know what you mean.  I stayed out of the net.bitch.whine.moan
about this one the last time around--the men complaining about it are
not going to be convinced by women saying "I ask men out" or by men
saying "women ask me out".  What they're really saying is "women don't
ask _me_ out".


Piglet, who's going to reget having re-started this, but who really
        has started all? her major relationships by asking the other
        person out, and then tripping hir and...oops...wrong newsgroup
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: gadfly@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (Gadfly)
Subject: Re: Abortion
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:15:30 GMT
Summary: Are we having fun yet?

In article <228@cnmhnet.UUCP>, keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard) writes:
> > > Is abortion wrong?
> >Discussing it in this newsgroup is!

> No Gadfly, it isn't.  

Look, kid, I was posting here before you learned how to masturbate.
There have been awesomely invidious arguments about abortion in
this newsgroup from time to time, starting back when it was called
net.singles.  Because of the dogmatic nature of opinions on this
subject, coupled with an inability of most undergraduate technogeeks
to form and communicate a coherent philosophical argument, we--
your net.elders--created net.abortion, which would become talk.abortion
in the fullness of time.  Of course, all adolescents are convinced
that they personally discovered sex, so it's not surprising to learn
that they also discovered truth, epistemology, and other fun toys.
But they usually take these toys to their appropriate corners once
they notice that the adults they were so trying to impress no longer
find it cute.  Now, kid!!

               *** ***
Ken Perlow   ***** *****
11 Dec 92   ****** ******   21 Frimaire An CCI
            *****   *****   gadfly@ihspc.att.com
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...L'AUDACE!   *** ***   TOUJOURS DE L'AUDACE!  ENCORE DE L'AUDACE!
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max)
Subject: Re: Is there an FAQ?
Keywords: frequently asked questions
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:11:53 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.181514.28166@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:

> 
>Q:  Why did the chicken cross the road?
> 
>A:  Because she wanted to lay it on the line.  (Also, to escape Max.)
>


Aw Trygve, there is no escape. Besides I'm just helping those chickens
amplify their DNA - some of it anyway.

Max - not james's German shephard, the other Max
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com (Bob Ashley)
Subject: On a Date ... Who Covers??
Reply-To: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com
Organization: GTE Federal Systems Division
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:42:17 GMT


I have seen a bit of discussion on this thread, so I thought I would offer
my $0.03 worth ... [ DC cost of living allowance  :-) ]

On recent outings with friends, relatives, and RP-wanna-be's, it seems that
whomever had the idea of the outing, be it lunch/dinner, movie, or the ball
game, is usually the one that pays.  If there are multiple events, then I
will make it a point to cover the second event, if indeed I am the recipient
of a dinner outing, et al.

As far as expectations go on an initial date, I always plan on covering
everything ... that is something that I was brought up on.  I realize that
these are the 90's, and I have been suprised on a few occasions ... even now
I am still taken aback when it happens.


Bob - I must be getting old   :-)

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: gds@york.cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
Subject: Re: Picking up the Tab (was: Re: What is gold-digging?)
Originator: gds@york.cs.ucla.edu
Reply-To: gds@cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
Organization: in your face!
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 00:38:40 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.224000.28895@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>The problem is this: if we spend all our time negotiating behavior
>patterns with every new person we meet, it's rather inefficient.  We
>need default behavior patterns.

Negotiating behavior patterns doesn't take that much time.  If you
find you can't negotiate in a few minutes, maybe it's a sign that you
won't be able to go on to the kind of relationship you had thought you
might (whether it be friendship, romance, or what have you).  It also
saves a lot of confusion, hurt, and misunderstanding in the long run.

>The counter-problem is that each of us is unique, and we live in a
>heterogeneous society where people have different expectations.

Even more reason why we should try to negotiate in order that we can
come on more common ground.

>Overall, I think that if two people are getting together on a Date, the
>default assumption should be that the asker will pay --

Why?

I have yet to see one logical reason in this thread (or any other on
this subject) why there should be one default rule on "Dates".

>but both should
>be alert to the nuances of language that will indicate that the other
>person has a different default preference.

OK

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin Barnes)
Subject: Re: Women: would you go out with a man dumber than you?
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 03:24:17 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
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It really depends on their looks, legs and of course monetary resources!!











all disclaimers you have ever read apply, including the one at the hat check!
From: tegarr01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Picking up the tab...honestly!
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:26:19 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

Guys and Gals this is ridiculous.  I don't understand this bs about who should
pick up the tab.  It is simple, if you ask SOMEONE out you pay for it.  Male or
Female, you are the one asking them to go with you.  It is different when you
call someone up and say, "Hey what are you doing tonight?"  that is a
friendship approach but, when you say, "Hey do you what to go out?"  You are
saying that you are taking them out.  That means you pick up the tab!

I have taken gals out and gals have taken me out.  Since it is the 90's it
seems that gals are more likely to ask you for a date.  Either way who asks the
other out picks up the tab.

Simple enough

Teg
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: Voices (was Re: Attraction -> Acquiantance or vice versa?)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:41:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <JULIE.92Dec13170551@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu> julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright) writes:

>So, any clues?  I can really go for certain male voices, but don't have
>much idea of how to "use my voice" myself.  In fact, I don't like it all
>that much, though I don't hate it either.  It would be great to be able
>to use it to turn men to putty, but even if that's impossible, I'm still
>curious.

For starters, most people "breathe wrong", for want of a better term.
They use muscles that squeeze the chest at the top rather than the
ones that squeeze the abdomen and move the diaphragm from the bottom.
The difference is striking; the relaxation of the vocal chords can't
really begin until the breath is being pushed through from below.  It
also lets you speak longer without taking a breath, which helps at times.

Next (and this is harder), you have to have work your mouth and throat
so that the air moves best at your lips and teeth rather than farther
back in your throat.  This is hard for me to tell you how to do without
standing in front of you and demonstrating.  It's neat, though; I can
make my teeth buzz when I sing :-)

There are some other things, too, but these two concepts are what I
focus on.  It's very easy for me to pitch my voice to be audible at
the back of the room without strain, and I like my singing voice
(except that I'd like better pitch control now).

>(I do remember that on the night of my high school senior prom, which,
>yes, I actually went to, I more or less lost my voice -- by evening,
>I could speak, but only in a very husky, soft, low voice.  My male friends
>kept begging me to keep talking because they thought it was great.  Alas,
>I recovered.  :)  )

More smoking and whisky are obviously needed (not! :-)

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
"Sometimes it feels like the sun just comes up out of habit,
 And goes down as quick as it can,
 These days, you just have to grab it as it goes by."
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: It's a funny feeling..?
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:10:51 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <db+r8zh@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
>In article <Bz4nz2.LEA@CAM.ORG> souchay@CAM.ORG (Francois Souchay) writes:
|>I coulda either been a computer geek or a chef. At least chefs get to chase
|>people around with cleavers when they invade their workspace.
|>Whapping at a salesdroid with a floppy disc just doesn't have the
|>same impact, somehow. 
|
|Try your keyboard. :)

There are some advantages to being a systems/network administrator.  It's
amazing the amount of cooperation you can get with various lengths of 
thicklan cable.
-- 
+==========================================================================+
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| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
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Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 12:41:27 EST
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Bad Timing
Distribution: usa
 <1992Dec11.194132.20789@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
 <MARTINC.92Dec11220914@hatteras.cs.unc.edu>
 <1992Dec12.060247.27903@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>

It's probably not the endorphins; it's wanting either to be real
(and being real messed up about how you *get* reality) or wanting
some impossible aspect of reality to go away and quit bugging you.

Which is why you get people drink 'so they can have fun', and why
people drink to get very, very unconcious.

Ditto why people get into relationships *so someone will love them* (only
they have love and the forms of affection confused), and why they
get into relationships so someone will control their life for them.

I think Charlie's point about shame over who you are as opposed to
shame about what you've done gets into some of this, too; if people
think the problem is *who they are* (the huge difference between
'I'm unlovable' and 'I haven't encountered someone who loves me
passionately, yet' comes to mind), rather than what they do, it is
real hard to get them to look at what they do.

Graydon
Newsgroups: soc.singles