From: sadi@physics3 (Sadi Turgut)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: Mr. Mutlu, what is your point?
Date: 21 Aug 1992 05:46:55 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics3.berkeley.edu

In article <BtAMH8.G8F@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis ) writes:
>
>  Look pal. I said that several Turks are using mutlu's accounts to post
>  their crap.  The difference in his writing style in many cases is
>  so obvious, that only idiots like you cannot see.

 Oh, sure.

>  And what I said in the previous posting about Turkey wanting to approach
>  Israel makes perfect sense.  Why the heck do you think mutlu is interested
>  in Jews?  How come and muslims are now starting to be sympathetic to Jews?
>  If he wrote just one posting about Jews, I would say what the heck, he is
>  a muslim who likes Jews.  But for so many months, tenths of postings about
>  Jews every day, simply proves my point.  So think a little, and get your
>  own answer. You think mutlu suddenly fall in love with Jews?

 How do you know that Mutlu is a Muslim? Your above paragraph contains
a few prejudices, like muslims being un-sympathetic to Jews. And, your
"logic" goes like, Hasan(s) is(are) Turk(s). Turks are Muslim. Muslims are
un-sympathetic to Jews. Therefore, it is strange for Mutlu(s) to fall
in love with Jews. Therefore, Turkish government ordered blah, blah, blah ...
(I inserted the plural forms to be consistent with your earlier theories.)
Why do you think that Turks are un-sympathetic to Jews? And why do you think
muslims are un-sympathetic to Jews?

>
>>A while ago a netter wrote the following about this person:
>
>><1992Jul28.080338.23279@enea.se>
>>sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
>
>>[]And? There are quite some Greeks, including you, who post a lot of
>>[]misinformation. Concluding from a e-mail discussion I had with
>>[]Panos Tamamidis it seems that he does not think that correctness of
>>[]facts is a virtue. At least when his side present in the incorrectness.
>>[]However this is an opinion I don't share, and furthermore I tend to
>>[]correct inaccuracies when I see them.
>
>> What he is trying to do is very clear. For this reason, I don't even need
>>to say that his claims are false.
>
> Is this the way Turks are making lists of their "enemies"?  The above 
> posting of Mr. Sommar* appeared about one month ago.  How surprising
> that you keep this stuff for future use !!  Have you placed me in a black
> list?

 Nope. Not yet. At least there is no such necessity if I understood your
logic(s) correctly. There is nothing to get alarmed. Also, messages in my
system stays as long as one month. Therefore, your theory that I kept
this stuff for future use goes directly to trash can.

 BTW, I may be a Turk, but with no reasonable logic, you can generalize
my behavior to other Turks. It is hard to explain this to idiots, but
I will lose nothing with trying.

> Now, with respect to Sommar*'s crap, Mr. Sommar* should shut up, since
> at the very same posting he wrote that Greece vetoed the recognition of
> Macedonia by the EC. This is untrue, but you prefered to omit this thing,
> in order to prove your point.  And Mr. Sommar* never explained in the net*
> what he ment. And his posting, discuses me, since he appears not to respect
> our personal exchange of mails. Thus, Sadistic Turgut, be more careful in
> what you write next time.

 "Sommar*" eh? This wild card character seems very familiar to me. Hmmm.
Are you the one who writes Mutlu articles perhaps? There were some theories
that Mutlu is in fact an Armenian provocateur, but it might even be a Greek
provocateur. Oh. Now I understand the reason of your articles that seem like
fuelling the discussions. You want to justify Mutlu's stay in USENET by
directly attacking him, and of course you inderectly defend Mutlu on the
other side. Because, you are the real Mutlu that we always thought a Turk!!!
 Now, I see. Especially, Greek government wants Turkey to be
isolated among its neighbors. For this reason, Greece does not approve
Turkish approach to Israel and the Greek government sent you an order
to stir up anger among Jews against Turks. That is why you (i.e. Mutlu)
post to scj. But, sir we won't fall prey to your heinous aims.

 Seems quite logical, doesn't it? I suggest all anti-Mutlu articles to be
directed to scg from now on. And, I call honest Greeks to say stop to their
Government's vicious provocations.

> Furthermore, your posting clearly shows how Turkish propaganda works.

 Wrong again Tamamidis. It should read something like this:

[]Furthermore, your posting clearly shows how Sadistic propaganda works.

 Can you see the difference?

>> Sadi Turgut
>  ^^^^
>  Sadistic perhaps?

 Why not? But, I wonder if there is a connection between this "name" and the
article that I posted. Hmmm. There is no apparent connection clearly. As
usual, Mutlu always finds new names to his opponents. So, your mask
is down Mr. Mutlu, (or Mr. Tamamidis, if that is your real name.) Go
back to where you come from (i.e. Greek Government) NOW!

 And of course,

<BtAn1v.GKt@news.cso.uiuc.edu>

>My above explanation is the only logical.

 No, sir. My above explanation is the *only* logical.

>---> Panos Tamamidis
>     University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

 Barbaros Sadistic TURGut
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