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From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: soc.history
Subject: Re: Ghost Dance and precedents
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:04:52 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <1992Sep3.203732.26026@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, kja@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (krista.j.anderson) writes:
> In article <11979@optilink.UUCP>, cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
> > In article <1992Aug27.203424.5305@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, kja@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (krista.j.anderson) writes:
# # # There were several reasons for
# # # the downfall of the Native Americans:  diseases, smaller numbers,
# # # technology always one step behind and the ruthlessness of their
# # # enemies.
# # 
# # Perhaps the biggest problem was an inability to form effective
# # alliances against the whites.  At least before 1700, it would have
# # been a trivial matter to have driven the whites from North
# # America.
# 
# This is my third attempt to respond to this.  I think what's
# bothering me is that there are alliances and then there are massive
# alliances.  I would say that the Indians formed some effective
# alliances that were temporary and regional.
# 
# It's true that the alliances were not as massive as they could have
# been.  For example, the Algonquian tribes and Iroquoian tribes of
# the Northeast of the 16-1700s would have been stronger together if
# they could have united.  However, the same could be said of France
# and England during the same time, and a lack of unity did not cause
# the downfall of Europe.

One big difference is that Europe was not under attack from a
technologically superior force at that time.  During the period
of Ottoman expansion into Europe, European unity was in short supply,
and was doubtless part of why the Ottomans so successfully took
over the Balkans and parts of Eastern Europe.

Unity among the various Indian tribes might have made up for their
technological inferiority to the Europeans, especially since the
Europeans until the 1700s had little or no manufacturing capability
in the colonies.
-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
Alcohol prohibition didn't work; drug prohibition doesn't work; gun
prohibition won't work.
From: mike@huevos.ma.utexas.edu (Mike Sullivan)
Newsgroups: soc.history
Subject: Re: slavery
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:59:43 GMT
Distribution: soc.history
Organization: University of Texas at Austin Mathematics

People interested in the history of slavery might want to look at
"From slavery to feudalism in south-western Europe" by Pierre
Bonnassie. 

BTW, captives of war was not the only root of slavery. Debt was another.
People often were forced to become slaves temporily or permententlt, or
had to sell their children because of debt. 

In Europe, the Chruch did prohibit enslaving CHristians. This was import
as more people were "converted" slavery became more difficult.

--Mike Sullivan
mike@math.utexas.edu
From: ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.history
Subject: Re: Battle of Hastings?
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:06:21 GMT
Organization: Economics, University of Adelaide
NNTP-Posting-Host: eco.economics.adelaide.edu.au

In article <1992Sep13.011639.2148@oz.plymouth.edu>, sos@oz.plymouth.edu (Steffan O'Sullivan) writes:
> Bob at adelaide.edu.au writes a very nice account of the Battle of
> Hastings, but mentions that the famous arrow through Harold's eye of
> the Bayeaux tapestry is spurious; that it's actually a housecarl.
> 
> Whose opinion is this?  I just read a book on the Bayeaux tapestry last
> month, and the author set forth clear arguments why it was indeed
> Harold.
> 
> What are your sources?

Okay, it's actuaaly lucky I read this, I got onto the thread from alt.war. 
Given that sera@zuma is boring me witless and my vms kill files don't work I'm
not going to be reading this much longer (shame really).

Can't remember the source but your book should show the part of the tapestry in
doubt.  The chap  with the arrow in the eye is a housecarl by uniform equipment
etc.  Then slightly to the right of him there is a definitely regal figure that
fitted in with other accounts of Harolds equipment much better than the
"victim".  The article outlined a lot of detail (most of which I can't recall
unfortuneately) and was very useful.

I will try and research my sources for you and get back later.  Please keep the
cross post to alt.war going.

regs

Rob

> 
> -- 
>   - Steffan O'Sullivan		         sos@oz.plymouth.edu
From: tichauer@valpso.hanse.de (Manfredo Tichauer)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Mail address of UNDP in Guatemala
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:02:43 GMT
Organization: "The Private site of Manfredo Tichauer"

I have to send mails to 

        U.N.D.P. (United Nations Development Program) in Guatemala
        =======                                       ============
             
I only know that they are linked via email to U.N.D.P. in New York.

Somebody told me also that their address is something like
  
                 UDP 025, level 41   in  TYMnet  (?)

Could somebody mail me exactly how can I send mails to UNDP-Guatemala?
I am quite a newuser, so please try to explain it to me carefully :-)

                              Thank you all
                                               Manfredo 




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Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: morgan@socs.uts.EDU.AU (David Morgan)
Subject: University Hospital Lund Sweden
Organization: School of Computer Sciences, UTS
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 07:16:27 GMT

Hi I'm wanting to contact a H B Franzen from the Dept of Psychiatry
University Hospital 
Lund Sweden.

Any suggestions?

Regards
 David

-- 
 morgan@socs.uts.edu.au            Ph +61 2 330 1864  Fax +61 2 330 1807 
 David Morgan : University of Technology Sydney PO Box 123 Broadway 2007     
 "Creativity can be a curse.
  Ask Dr Frankenstein." - Calvin Miller
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: acyoung@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Aaron C. Young)
Subject: US Army|29Y SatCom|Fort Gordon|Taegu Korea|Ft. Detrick people
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 01:10:17 EDT


Hello all,

I am looking for any information that would lead me to find some of the
people I went through Fort Gordon, GA Satellite Communications training
and those I worked with at Fort Detrick Maryland.

In particular:

John Georges	- Probably in California working for a communications firm
Mike Mullineaux	- Last heard going to Californina to work for a commtns firm
Del Delatorre	- Last heard going to college in Cal.
Joe Steffen	- No clue...he was a crazy dude.
Mike Smiley	- He owes me money...probably rotting in Wisconsin.
Mark Ginevan	- Last heard attending Naval Engineering school in Cali.
Todd Velasko	- Ran off to Atlanta with a babe.  Probably doing communcations
		  work for someone.
Brent Starr	- Last heard flying helicopters in Korea.

If you know any of these fellows, let me know.  I can be reached via
e-mail obviously or by using the following:

Phone	(315) 469-5232	or work (315) 443-3995
US Mail	P.O. Box 211
	Syracuse, New York 13215 

Any info woudl be great.  Thanks!

Aaron
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: fischer@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (W. T. Fischer)
Subject: Chadwick School People
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 17:52:56 GMT
Keywords: ]

Are there out there any graduates of Chadwick School in Palos Verdes Peninsula,
CA?  I'd like to correspond. 


Thanks.


Bill Fischer '80


--
Internet: fischer@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people 
to do nothing.  

After E. Burke, 1795.
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: proct_hately@hg.uleth.ca (Kintair of Hawkehaven MKA Bill Hately)
Subject: Re: NEED E-MAIL ADDRESS TO LETHBRIDGE AND BYU
Reply-To: proct_hately@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:30:25 GMT

In article <92254.200340IK20050@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, <IK20050@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> 
writes:
>If someone has the e-mail addresses to either Lethbridge U.
>in Alberta or Brigham Young University in Utah, could you
>please pass them on to me?  Thanks!!!
>
>.................Andie.
For the University of lethbridge it is either 
mx%"persons_name@hg.uleth.ca" for the vms
or 
persons_name@alpha.uleth.ca for ultrix
I'm
Proct_hately@hg.uleth.ca
or
hately@alpha.uleth.ca
If you have a specific person you are looking for give me a shout and we can
try to find them on the system (as all names aren't of the same form here -
depends on if your Faculty, staff or students )
Bill H
ps the .sig is set up for the SCA don't get confused
Kintair of Hawkehaven          | Bill Hately   | Talk (403) 381-1741
Shire of Windwyrm              | Lethbridge AB | proct_hately@hg.uleth.ca
Crown Principality of Avacal   | Canada        | Smile Dammit
An Tir (I wouldn't dream of subjecting any corp. or Educational Institution to
        these opinions, so they certainly aren't the opinions of the UofL)
  (And I'm not an officer of the SCA so I can't have an official opinion There
              - even if I wanted to )
Life is a Sexually Transmitted Terminal Condition
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: cic@vab02.larc.nasa.gov (Christopher I. Cruz)
Subject: Chris Jones, Toby Denney, Tom West
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA
Distribution: soc
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:56:59 GMT

  I'm looking for Chris Jones, Toby Denney, and Tom West, all of whom
  graduated from Virginia Tech in Aerospace Engineering in 1983 and
  reported to Air Force duty at Wright Patterson AFB soon thereafter.
  I don't know if any of them are currently in the AF. Please e-mail any
  info to Chris Cruz at cic@vab02.larc.nasa.gov

                         Thanks much !
From: joewhite@ut-emx.uucp (Joe Carl White)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: George Mason U., MBA, Chip Dorosz
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:25:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin; Austin, Texas

If anyone has any information on the wereabouts of Leon Charles Dorosz, please
let me know.  It is of the utmost urgency.  He owes me a dollar.

Seriously, I'm trying to locate Chip Dorosz, and Last heard he was going to 
enter the MBA program at George Mason University.  If Anyone can help me, I'd
be most appreciative.
-- 
|* Joe Carl White             this space          joewhite@emx.cc.utexas.edu *|
|* 910 E. 32nd, #201           for rent         LBJ School of Public Affairs *|
|* Austin, TX 78705             Cheap!          Ross, why'd you drop out???? *|
|* 512-499-8431              Call BR-549           Anybody know Chip Dorosz? *|
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Dave Macaskill, Ontario
From: R.A.Rayner@massey.ac.nz (R.A. Rayner)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 02:05:13 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Keywords: Dave, Macaskill,Ontario,Canada,Insurance
Summary: Dave Macaskill ,Ontario, Canada
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c

	I'm trying to find the email address of Dave Macaskill. He's the cousin
of a friend.
	We know he works for an insurance company in Ontario in Canada ;^)

Thanks 
	Richard Rayner

Maths/Stats
Massey University
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From: christin@cae.wisc.edu (Christine Haas)
Subject: Looking for email address at STANFORD
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Distribution: usa
Date: 6 Sep 92 15:53:28 CDT

Hi  

I am looking for an email address of someone at STANFORD.

I have read the email FAQ and have only been semi successful.

Here is what I have found:

whois -h stanford.edu geittmann

                       Stanford University Whois Service
 "whois help" for general info        | Problems to "whois-problem@networking"
 "whois update" for entry update info | Comments to "help@networking"
  [ Note: Stanford does NOT provide central electronic mail service. ]
  [       Whois "handles" are NOT electronic mail addresses.         ]
  [       If no e-mail address is listed, try the telephone.         ]
  [       DO NOT send mail to "user@stanford.edu".                   ]

        name: Geittmann, Edwin John,, IV
  department: Mechanical Engineering
        year: Junior
     address: Po Box 11829, Stanford, Ca, 94309
       phone: (415) 497-1387
      handle: egeittmann
  updated-by: download
date-updated: May 22 1992  7:35PM

I tried finger geittmann@Leland.stanford.edu and he was unknown.

So my question is, what is his email address???

I have searched all over and I don't know where else to look.

Can anyone help me?

Thanks.

Chris.
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: hong@mbfys.kun.nl (Hong Zhou)
Subject: Looking for a friend at Univ. of Texas
Organization: University of Nijmegen
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 08:43:28 GMT

Hi Everyone out Texas,

I am in search of the address/telephone number of a friend
whose name is Elsje Verhagen. She is a graduate student majoring
in Education at Univ. of Texas. If you can help me to locate 
her, please drop me a message. Your help is deeply appreciated. 

Thanks in advance, 

Hong Zhou
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The Netherlands      |  _  |   / 	
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Tel. +31-80-556412  /     \|   /__\     email: hong@mbfys.kun.nl
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From: sylanov@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Christine V Sylanov)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Laguna Blanca grads
Date: 15 Sep 1992 17:29:31 -0400
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: function.mps.ohio-state.edu


	Hey, is there anyone out there who went to Laguna Blanca,
in Hope Ranch, California?  I went there from '76-'79.  I have
only bumped into 2 people I knew there since I left-and I spent 
the last 7 years there.  Where did everyone go?  

-- 
	Christine Sylanov	sylanov@function.mps.ohio-state.edu 

"There is nothing on my mind that could not be expressed by a long
	insane outburst of hysterical rage" -Ashleigh Brilliant
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Thursday, 10 Sep 1992 20:03:40 EDT
From: <IK20050@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: NEED E-MAIL ADDRESS TO LETHBRIDGE AND BYU

If someone has the e-mail addresses to either Lethbridge U.
in Alberta or Brigham Young University in Utah, could you
please pass them on to me?  Thanks!!!

................Andie.
     ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
     "BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN CONQUER THE WORLD,
      AND YOU WILL CONQUER THE WORLD.  NOTHING
      IS IMPOSSIBLE."
            ------ANDERSON MAR, 1991
     ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
      IK20050@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
     ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
      I LOVE ERIC SCOTT YOUNG FOREVER!!!
     ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: ericj@eskimo.celestial.com (Eric Jorgensen)
Subject: Mountlake Terrace, WA
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 07:29:18 GMT

Did anyone out there go to Mountlake Terrace H.S., in Washington...

  ...between 1985-1989, and...
  ...recognize my name (Eric Jorgensen) (If you look in the year books, I'm
     only in the 85-88 ones.) ??

If either one of the above is true (or even if you were there before or after
me), please reply.  I want to get back in touch with some of my old High
School friends, and since some of them were in classes like physics, computer
programming, chemistry, and creative writing, I'd think there's a good chance
they have net access (some of them anyway).

Hope to hear from ya soon...

- ericj@eskimo.celestial.com - "Prime time fodder for the News at Nine" (RW)

Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: Sstevens@oregon.uoregon.edu (Shirien Stevens)
Subject: looking for shirley A Hill: Univ of Missouri, Kansas
Organization: University of Oregon
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:15:39 GMT

Well, I read the "how to find folks on the internet" stuff and still can't 
seem to work this.  

Anybody help me find the address for university of missouri at Kansas City?  
I am particularly interested in finding Shirly A. Hill, a professor of 
education and math.

Thanks so much.

sstevens@oregon.uoregon.edu
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: ericj@eskimo.celestial.com (Eric Jorgensen)
Subject: Planetary address?
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 05:52:42 GMT

Does The Planetary Society have a UUCP/Usenet/Internet-able address?
I've come across a "which one?" response, so the one I'm looking for
is the one that was founded by Carl Sagan and Bruce Murray, and has Sagan
as its president.  Its membership address is in Pasadena, CA, and I've already
'grep'd all the ...ca.# maps, but no "Planetary" was found.

Thanks in advance for any info.

Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: bes@Siri.Unit.NO (Bent Erik Skaug)
Subject: Looking for Oyvind Brande, Glasgow, UK
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 13:40:10 GMT

I'm looking for a friend who i studying computer science at Strathglyde (??)
University in Glasgow, Scottland.

If anyone have got the e-mail adress for that university (or others in Glasgow)
I would be very thankful.


Bent Erik Skaug, 
NTH, 
Norway        

(bes@siri.unit.no)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: pmsc13sg@UMASSD.EDU (Stephen Grossman)
Subject: NEWS address
Reply-To: pmsc13sg@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:52:41 GMT

What is address of sci.philosophy.meta or source which knows?
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: lms@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Max Stern 310-524-6152)
Subject: Michigan -- Bendix -- John and Cassie Hornbuckle
Summary: Still looking for the Hornbuckles
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not neccessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 16:38:24 GMT
Expires: 30 days


Still looking for John and Cassie Hornbuckle.  Last known home address
(15 years ago?) Walled Lake, Michigan.  John's last known employer:
Bendix systems, working on a natural language translation system.
-- 

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From: simona@panix.com (Simona Nass)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: REPOST: Stuyvesant HS (in NYC) alumni - starting e-mail directory
Date: 13 Sep 92 23:31:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

I am attempting to compile a directory of Stuyvesant alumni e-mail addresses.
Progress has been slow because the organizers of the reunion in June provided
no help about announcing it for me. However, I have sent the Alumni Spectator
a letter and that should garner some responses.

If you wish to be included, please provide the information below.

gradyear Last, First Middle = preferred.e-mail.address alt.e-mail.addresses

I have over 150 names from the class of 1991, but fewer than 60 from other
years combined. Let me know if, hope against hope, you wish to see if I've
got someone listed. I can use your help in spreading the word - to alums
who might have e-mail addresses and also those who might know folks who
have e-mail addresses. Our sys-op set up an alias, so use the address
stuy@panix.com (route through cmcl2 if there are problems).  This address
is for keeping me posted of address changes and for new folks to contact me,
as well as for questions generally. My personal address is simona@panix.com
(I graduated in 1984).

Can't wait to hear from you. -S.
-- 
        Alumni of Stuyvesant HS of New York: e-mail stuy@panix.com
    if you wish to participate in compiling an alumni e-mail directory
---------  simona@panix.com    or    {apple,cmcl2}!panix!simona  ----------
Disclaimer: I am not an attorney, though I do have an opinion on everything.
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: kendall@sceng.ub.com (Greg Kendall)
Subject: Looking for Roger Hearst, SLAC, CERN
Organization: Ungermann Bass
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:57:12 GMT

Looking for Roger Hearst, who was doing grad. work at SLAC, then moved to
CERN.
From: simona@panix.com (Simona Nass)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: REPOST
Date: 9 Sep 92 05:26:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC


-- 
        Alumni of Stuyvesant HS of New York: e-mail stuy@panix.com
    if you wish to participate in compiling an alumni e-mail directory
---------  simona@panix.com    or    {apple,cmcl2}!panix!simona  ----------
Disclaimer: I am not an attorney, though I do have an opinion on everything.
From: clifton9220@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Prayerline
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:41:41 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Hi and Hello.

This is a new thing that I want to begin.  I am establishing a prayerline.  If
you are facing a situation and want a prayer.  Drop me a line and I'll mention
your name.  It may not help, but it can't hurt.  However, I believe that if you
want help, God wants to help you.

take care and remember God 2day reflected in his blessings.

ken
From: un030025@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Anyone from Duke? HELP!
Date: 12 Sep 92 00:32:15 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

Does anyone that can read this go to Duke? If so, I would like to get some
addresses of some friends there. Thanks alot

WVU
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: klink@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (steven.r.klinkner)
Subject: Jennifer Lynn Koch
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:02:40 GMT

Looking for Jennifer Lynn Koch.  Lived with father & stepmother in 
Roselawn or DeMotte, IN (northern IN along route 65), mother and stepfather 
lived in Lafayette, IN.  Approximate birth year 1974.  Possibly living 
and/or studying in Indiana and/or Florida. 

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From: nudnik@camelot.bradley.edu (Steven Parks)
Subject: Looking for Caterpillar in Switzerland
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:29:53 GMT

i'm looking for an electronic mail address for Caterpillar in
Switzerland.  if anyone can help me, please email me.  thanks!
--
Life is a journey, not a destination.
Steven Parks  (309) 677 1271
SnailMail: 1312 W. Main #104 Peoria, IL USA 61606 
E-Mail:  nudnik@camelot.bradley.edu    or    nudnik@buhub.bradley.edu