HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: drwho@parrot.WPI.EDU (Eric Ant Von Laudermann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Old Jungle Book Cartoons
Date: 21 Jan 1993 16:24:19 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: parrot.wpi.edu
Keywords: Mowgli Riki-tiki-tavi

In article <8654@news.duke.edu> bhs@neuro.duke.edu (Brennan Stephens) writes:
>I hope this is the right place to post this.  Does anyone know where I can
>get copies of the Jungle Book cartoons (not disney) that used to be on
>T.V. once in a while.  I specifically remember Riki-tiki-tavi and Mowgli's
>Brothers.  I really liked both of these, but I can't find them on Cable
>or on video.  Any info out there?  Thanks in advance.

"Mowgli's Brothers", "The White Seal", and "Rikki-Tikki-Tavi"
occasionally show up on Nickelodoen's "Special Delivery", which is a
block of shows airing every Saturday and Sunday from 2PM to 4PM.
Check your listings, though; they're currently going through a phase
of Lassie movies.

--E.V.L. (drwho@wpi.wpi.edu)  # "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you see
a.k.a.:  The Eternal Newbie,  # before you a killer, and of the worst kind.
The Amazing Tubeman!,         # Madonna."
Murphy's Law Incarnate        # --Commercial for the movie "Body of Evidence"
Any similarities between what I say and what I mean are purely coincidental.
Xref: sparky rec.arts.animation:7495 alt.tv.tiny-toon:6129
From: atario@cats.ucsc.edu (Stephen Wayne Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Re: Simpsons now eligible for Emmy Best Comedy Series award
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:47:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


kmeyers@nyx.cs.du.edu (Karl Meyers) writes:

>In fact, TTA would
>have won Best Animated Series *if* we hadn't gotten robbed by - of all
>things - _Rugrats_ (BLECH!).

What?!?  Rugcrap won over all the other excellent shows out there?!?  Which
awards pay-off deal was this, anyway?  ACE awards?  Emmys?  What?

>Also, does this mean Batman: The Animated Series can now be nominated for
>Best Drama Series?  I certainly hope so...it's better than a lot of the
>drivel we see otherwise.

Hear, hear!!
-- 
  __     | atario@cats.ucsc.edu | "Oh no!  Toonces, look out!  AIIIEEEE!"  --SNL
 (_      | Delphi:  ATARIO      | "This is only an exhibition.  This is not a
 __)teve | "Happy happy!        |  competition.  So please . . . no wagering."
         |  Joy joy!"  --R & S  |              --Late Night with David Letterman
From: emru@CAM.ORG (Emru Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Disney's "New Look": How?
Date: 22 Jan 93 00:17:07 GMT
Organization: MegaCorp Central Complex

jason@aspen.math.uh.edu (Jason Grimes) writes:

>I do know that the rug in Aladdin
>was computer generated so that they could have a complicated design on it
>and not have to draw it for every frame.

Almost, but not quite.  The carpet was hand-drawn, but the pattern was
texture-mapped onto it by computer.
-- 
"What kind of place is this?"    | Emru Townsend  | emru@cam.org 
"Looks like one of them gay Arab | Montreal, Que. | switch@bix.com 
 biker sushi joints."            | (514) 932-7145 | Fido: 1:167/133
 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: swaim@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Parks Swaim)
Subject: Re: Transformers
Organization: Rice University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:16:25 GMT

New (old) toys. I was in Toys R Us and saw some of the old "mini" transformers,
with parts "chromed." They also had Inferno. Looks like they're going to
have all the transformers from the first batch summer.

-- 
Mike Swaim            | "101 Dalmations? Yeah I saw that."
swaim@owlnet.rice.edu | "You Did! REALLY? The same film?
Disclamer: I lie      | Let's stop driving! We must get out and jump
up and down and up and down and dance around and around!" Matt and Delerium
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dave Van Domelen)
Subject: Re: Name this cartoon...PLEASE!!!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:10:57 GMT

To amplify on the previous post explaining that this is _Twice Upon A Time_, 
the characters mentioned are:
     Flora Fauna: "What happened to my big heroic uncle Greensleeves?"
     Greensleeves: "I got short and bent"
     Rod Rescueman: "I wish *I* could get short and bent...."
     FigMen of the Imagination
     Synonomous Botch and his pet Rat-tat-tooey (Ratatouille?)
     Ralph the All-Purpose animal
     Mumford, the no-purpose nothing
     Lots a' vultures.
Really fun movie if you can get ahold of it.
     Dave Van Domelen, loves the Attack Scissors....
Organization: Sophomore, Mathematics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:52:52 -0500 
From: Michael P Collins <mc7f+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Name this cartoon...PLEASE!!!

This is an animated movie I saw on HBO sometime in the early 80's.  I
can't remember the title, so I'll just rattle off the stuff I remember
from it.
Anyway: A little man named Dreamfinder and his Dreamfig assistants (I'm
not making this up, I swear!), he said something about them to the
effect of "Nice fellows, tapdance do they not, nor do they f*rt.", his
niece (a generic princess type),  (another quote:"You can't be my uncle
Dreamfinder, he was tall and strong and you're short and bent!"  "I am"
"What happened to my big, tall, strong Uncle Dreamfinder" "He became
short and bent"), some generic superhero type, and a lot of ink spilling
all over the place.  The only other thing I remember is that it wasn't
made with cels, it looked more like sheets of tissue paper and acetate
being pixillated...
From: lerouxm@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Mark Leroux)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: CAPS vs. Cels (was Re: Disney's "New Look": How?)
Date: 22 Jan 1993 00:48:23 GMT
Organization: CS Dept, Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: prism.cs.orst.edu

In article <1993Jan21.192915.15765@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:
>[I saw Dan's reply to Mark's article, so I had to backtrack and read the
>original.]
>In article <1jl6bgINN9b6@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU>, lerouxm@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Mark Leroux) writes:
>> I prefer the Disney style because characters can have conflicts with
>> other characters, personalities of their own, and personal histories.
>> Giant robots don't have these things.         
>
>!!!!  I take it you haven't seen any "giant robot" shows since the mid 70's.
>I submit to you the various Gundam series and films as the perfect
>counterexample for your argument.  Gundam is nothing *but* character
>conflicts with a good dose of high-angst melodrama, set against a hard
>SF background (with giant robots in it ^_^).


Aw Jesus H. Christ!!!!!

I have seen Macross I and II, Char's CounterAttack, MadoX, Mazinger, 
Robotech(the whole f**king thing), Gunbuster, Tranzor Z, and Transformers
(the movie and about half of the TV episodes).  That should make me qualified
 to recognize a "Giant Robot" show.   I will continue to say that 
 what draws people to see these movies is the groovy robot and mechanical
 shit.  An animated robot could be created with a personality and something
 interesting about it (like TRansformers) but the rest of the shows I've 
 seen just don't do that.  The
 human characters do have some interesting personality traits (sometimes) but 
 the mecha alone do not.  

Is the high-angst melodrama of "Char's Counterattack" created by the human
characters or the equipment?  That is my point.  The story can't be told
about the mechs unless someone is there to pilot them.  Thus the humans
become nothing more than an tool to get from one battle scene to the 
next.  There was alot of guns blazing, rockets blasting, and swords slicing
in between all that impressive character conflict.

In "Transformers" yes, the characters are anthromorphosized robots.  
But if the characters were so great in that show why make them robots
at all?  Why were they transforming cars, trucks, and jets?  If you aren't 
thinking *marketing ploy* don't bother hitting the 'F' key.

--Mark


 


Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: Re: BTAS: The Mechanic (1-24-93)
Keywords: BTAS
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:51:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.051546.15226@tc.fluke.COM> moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime) writes:
>Well, so-so, but it sure is nice to see a new episode every once in a while.
>I give them credit for picking up some of the more interesting concepts from
>the 50+ years of Batman comics, such as the fellow who fixes the Batmobile.
>I'm not sure they did the best job with it, but it was OK.  (I thought it
>cute that the "initial" Batmobile that Cooper sees Batman driving is from
>the 30's comics.)  

I thought it was neat that Batman was wearing the old (no yellow oval)
Bat-costume in that scene, as well.  Also, if one looks closely, a
piece of paper being blown by in that scene was a "WANTED" poster for
Batman (and a reward for some multiple of a million dollars).

"I need a new car."

Has Earl Cooper been seen in the comics before (or the idea of an Earl
Cooper)?
-- 
'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
                         Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
                         Space Telescope Science Institute
                         Baltimore, MD   21218
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dave Van Domelen)
Subject: BTAS: Harley and Ivy
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:29:22 GMT

Well, no one else mentioned it (that I saw), so I'll add that one of the little
details of this episode was the fact that Ivy's vanity plates read "Rosebud".
     Anyone have an idea on the model of her car?  If it's a pink Cadillac....
     Dave Van Domelen, "All our welcome" seen on Math Club ad...
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Subject: Re: BTAS: Interpretations of the Joker (was Re: "Harley and Ivy") *spoilers*
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Organization: The Institute for Criminal Science, Gizmonics Control
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 06:34:53 GMT

In <1993Jan19.185432.24376@fnbc.com> frank@fnbc.com (Frank Mitchell) writes:
>I've always thought of the Joker as a bully.

Yes, certainly.  There are hints in this episodes that Harley has been
beaten by the Joker (or at least hit) at times.

                           DAVE BARRY'S 1992 IN REVIEW -- October 13th
                              "In the first of four presidential debates,
                               Bill Clinton promises to increase spending
                               for jobs, education, health care, the
                               environment, the infrastructure, the
                               outfrastructure and parking, while at the
                               same time reducing the deficit and cutting
                               taxes for the middle class. Bush says Clinton
                               is a bozo. Ross Perot says it's time to cut
                               bait and talk turkey. All three candidates
                               perform well in the Swimsuit Competition."
---
                                        Moriarty, aka Jeff Meyer
INTERNET:     moriarty@tc.fluke.COM
Manual UUCP:  {uunet, uw-beaver, sun, microsoft}!fluke!moriarty
CREDO:        You gotta be Cruel to be Kind...
                 **>> Keep circulating the tapes <<**
From: Curtis.Hoffmann@f62.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Curtis Hoffmann)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Disney's "New Look": How
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:00:10 -0600

JAD>From: jdunning@chagall.Princeton.EDU (John Alan Dunning)
JAD>Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation, rec.arts.disney
JAD>Organization: Princeton University

JAD>In article <1993Jan21.204706.3256@ryn.mro4.dec.com>
JAD>rivers@mdnite.enet.dec.com writes:
JAD>>I'm not sure if I agree with Mr. Cook, but I'd like to throw in my two cen
JAD>>about the use of computer generated backgrounds.  I find it distracting wh
JAD>>the background is more 'real' than the animation.

JAD>The Tiger Head from the Cave of Wonders was indeed computer animated.
JAD>An article in the November 1992 issue of Computer Graphics World
JAD>discusses some of the techniques used in "Aladdin".

JAD>I'm sure the animators would be glad to hear your opinion of the Tiger
JAD>Head, because, as the article states, their main goal was making the
JAD>head blend into the dunes from which it takes shape.  Basically they wanted
JAD>part of the background to come alive and speak.  But with traditional
JAD>animation you can always tell which part of the background is animated,
JAD>even before it starts moving.

   Not exactly true.  In traditional animation, the moving part may be
on one cel, the not-moving part on a second, behind the first.  The
thickness of the top cel is just great enough to cause a color
difference between the moving and non-moving parts, if they were made
with the same paints -- and that's what you're talking about.
   BUT, with just a little more time and care, the ink and paint people
can blend a new shade of paint to compensate for the one-cel difference.
However, most studios are too concerned about cutting costs to make the
effort.

___
 X OLX 2.1 TD X People that keep on flaming me -- Boot to the head.

Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: rdutt@mksol.dseg.ti.com (richard f. dutt)
Subject: Heavy Metal: correction
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:30:13 GMT

I should correct my previous post.  Heavy Metal was released on
video but as someone else pointed out, it was very limited.  I
remember seeing a listing for it on video in a "movies on tape"
catalog but it was listed as "distributed in Canada only".  Your
best bet is Cinemax.

-Rich

-- 

e-mail: rdutt@ms3.dseg.ti.com
        rdutt@mksol.dseg.ti.com
From: mcdermot@amiganet.chi.il.us (Mark Mcdermott)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Flintstone Movie ?
Date: 24 Jan 93 02:37:00 CST
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

>> For years I've been hearing that they are making a real life Flintstone
>> movie. I hear that John Candy will be playing Fred.  Can any body varify
>> this rumour?
>I heard that John Goodman was slated to play Fred... but yeah, I have heard
>the same rumour.  Wait and see...
The last I had heard about a Flintstones project was an "animated" special, the
title of which suggests it'll be Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm's wedding, and which
would run on TV this season (mentioned in the TV Guide Fall Preview).
The live-action movie project has kicked around for several years, and will
probably get made "some day"

Mark McDermott
Who has time to create a signature?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dave Van Domelen)
Subject: Re: BTAS: The Mechanic
Keywords: BTAS
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:32:51 GMT

AAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I forgot about the Sunday night BTAS and missed this one!  Blee-yarg!
Well, it'll be rerun to death eventually....
     Dave Van Domelen, wonders what today's episode will be....
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: mstailey@icaen.uiowa.edu (Michael David Stailey)
Subject: BTAS: The Mechanic... YUCK!
Originator: mstailey@l_cae02
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:31:11 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA



Talk about disappointments... all they did for this episode was
rip off the "Penguin gains control of the Batmobile" scene from
BATMAN RETURNS. Hell, they even used that stupid yellow duck!

With all the great work the writers have done so far, why redo
something as crappy as this?! I'm sorry... I was not impressed.

-- 
Michael
mstailey@icaen.uiowa.edu
-- 
Michael
mstailey@icaen.uiowa.edu
Xref: sparky rec.arts.animation:7475 comp.sys.amiga.graphics:8985 rec.arts.disney:8899
From: gt1293c@prism.gatech.EDU (W. Scott Radeker, IV)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,comp.sys.amiga.graphics,rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney's "New Look": How?
Date: 24 Jan 93 14:00:20 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.animation
Organization: Hog's Breath is Better than No Breath at All.

> I will readily admit that he ballroom in Beauty and the Beast was
> fantasic to look at, but it bothers my sense of reality, if you will,
> because the sheer realism of the ballroom made the two characters dancing
> around look excruciatingly like animated cartoons.

I think though, that part of the reason for using the "real life"
ballroom in that scene was to illustrate the magic of those two
extremely different characters falling in love.  Notice that at
the end of the movie when they are dancing in the ballroom that
the ballroom is not the same as in the "ballroom scene."  For me,
that level of artistic symbology was moving...

Scott
-- 
W. Scott Radeker, IV
216 Valley Green
Mauldin, SC  29662
Internet:    gt1293c@cad.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: vgriscep@wam.umd.edu (VGR (Craig Pell))
Subject: Why, Porky!
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 03:08:50 GMT

I just had an interesting flashback.  I distinctly recall seeing a piece of
animation wherein Porky Pig, *the* Porky Pig, says:

"Oh, son of a b---son of a b---son of a b---son of a bitch!  [looks at 
camera]  Ha.  You didn't think I was gonna say it, did you?"

This was for real;  real WB animation, voiced by Mel Blanc.  What I want to
know is, does anyone recall exactly where this is from?
-- 
      | $000C35FA                  <>-----=------------------------=----=----<>
 VGR  | (1812 Overture)            | "The size of the brain is no measure of  |
      | I GIVE UP                  | its capacity."   - Mr. Jonathan Frisby   |
      | YOU MUST BE A  VIDEO WHIZ  <>-----=---------=------------------------<>
Xref: sparky rec.arts.animation:7513 rec.arts.anime:30314 rec.arts.disney:8975 alt.fan.furry:2802
From: eahu090@orion.oac.uci.edu (Avi Melman)
Subject: Space Ace cel for SALE...
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.anime,rec.arts.disney,alt.fan.furry
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 26 Jan 93 02:52:11 GMT

---------------------------------------

     The Space Ace cel I had advertised earlier is still up for grabs.  The cel
is matted and framed, and has a picture of Ace and Kimmy on the motorbike.
I originally asked $220 or best offer, but, due to the fact that I HAVE to sell
this piece whether I want to or not, I am willing to lower it to $200 obo.
Please e-mail me if interested...

-----------------------THE 'SUGOI' ENORMOUS .SIG!!-------------------------
           **************************     "Ore wa ima...MOORETSU ni...
          *        _  ____           *              NEKKETSU SHITEIRU!"
         *    /\  /  /  ____________\ *
   ******    /  \/  /___/  KNIGHT   /  ******    Avi Melman 
  *     _____          __,_           ___    *   a.k.a.  Wan Dabada,
  *    _______   /        /   &  /|  |   |   *   Lamunes, King Sccasher
  *          /  /    ____/      /____|   |   * (depending on my mood...)
  *    \____/  /_____\  | \       |  |___|   * Cal-Animage Epsilon,
   ******************************************    Video Coordinator
  Anime + Plus, 13 West Yale Loop, Irvine, CA  92714  
Voice:  (714) 786-0806                 BBS: AnimeVektor BBS  (714) 786-8640
---------------------------------------------------------------------------



Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,comp.sys.amiga.graphics,rec.arts.disney
From: emru@CAM.ORG (Emru Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,comp.sys.amiga.graphics,rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney and CAPPS
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:22:58 GMT
Organization: MegaCorp Central Complex

kontos@clipper.ingr.com (Thorne Kontos) writes:

>I have a friend who is an animator on The Simpsons down in L.A. He actually
>saw some of the artwork for The Thief and the Cobbler before the project
>was apparently canned. All he could say was it was the most incredible
>thing he ever saw. He also said it even put Aladdin/Beauty and the Beast
>to shame. But then again, if I got to work on a project for 20 years, I
>would expect nothing less.

It's not so much canned as in limbo.  I'm pretty sure Williams is doing
whatever he can to get his film back...
-- 
"What kind of place is this?"    | Emru Townsend  | emru@cam.org 
"Looks like one of them gay Arab | Montreal, Que. | switch@bix.com 
 biker sushi joints."            | (514) 932-7145 | Fido: 1:167/133
 
Xref: sparky rec.arts.animation:7505 comp.sys.amiga.graphics:9025 rec.arts.disney:8950
From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,comp.sys.amiga.graphics,rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney's "New Look": How?
Date: 25 Jan 1993 20:28:10 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdcc13.ucsd.edu

In article <1jsu2m$j3o@agate.berkeley.edu> murakami@ocf.berkeley.edu (Brandon Murakami) writes:
>Oh, now I see the confusion.  The Goof Troop might be assisted with Amigas,
>but the Goof Troop is not animated at the Disney Studios.  Goof Troop and
>every other current Disney cartoon series are commissioned out to other
>studios.  I can't recall which studios does which, but if this is the source
>of all the Amiga fanatics' claim to being a part of Disney animation then yes,
>it's true there is some use.  But at the Disney Studios, they use Macintoshes
>for pencil tests.

There is a credit for "computer graphics" or something along that
line in most (or all) of the Goof Troop episodes I've seen: "Kelly
Day" it says.  I don't know if it's the same Kelly Day, but I
remember that name from some old games I had on my Commodore 64.
Day appears to have worked for Data East, drawing computer graphics,
I presume.  That's all I know about that.

Hmmm...Amiga fans seem to always be on the lookout for "Hidden
Amigas."  There may be some in operation at Walt Disney World.  Can
anyone testify whether this *rumor* is true?  Also, as a side-note,
Hidden Amigas are used on Sesame Street (I've never stopped watching
that show!).  Watch the simulated Macintosh display one of the kids
is working with from time-to-time.  There's actually an Amiga at work
there.


- Robert Cook
From: cjett@s850.mwc.edu (conroy v. jett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Liquid Television
Date: 21 Jan 1993 21:18:20 -0500
Organization: Mary Washington College, CPSC Dept.
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: s850.mwc.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Dave Faciane (faciane@huey.met.fsu.edu) wrote:
> I recently discovered "Liquid Television" on MTV. Are there any plans
> to show a Liquid TV "marathon" as was just done for Ren & Stimpy on
> MTV? So far I have only seen 2 episodes. Does anyone have a tape of

> some other episodes? I would gladly pay for a copy!

MTV had a liquid TV marathon a month ago, so keep your eyes peeled.
They're bound to do it again.

Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation