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From: scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Rangers Match Report
Date: 11 Jan 93 09:18:51 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, SCOTLAND.

Played on Saturday 9th January
Scottish Cup 3rd Round

Motherwell 0  Rangers 2

              McCoist 35,62 (37 this season)

Att. 14,300

Rangers began the defence of the Scottish Cup at Fir Park which coincided
with the opening of Motherwell's new stand for away fans. We were in the
front row behind the goals and saw bugger all due to ball boys and pollice.

With Richard Gough out for a few weeks, Dizzy was recalled to the side to
play at right back with Twizzle moving into the centre of defence. It was a
fairly scrappy game until the goal with not much incident at either end. A
throw out from Goram was played upfield by McCall. Nijholt thought it was
going to make it to the keeper but the wind held it up and Gordon was on to
it. He squared the ball to SAlly who could have scored first time but dragged
the ball behind the defender then placed it in the empty net. When Gordon had
played the ball across, I thought it was a shot as my view was obscured by
the ball boys, however, there was relief when SAlly appeared.

The second half was greeted with a cheer for the events down the road at
Hamilton. This half was dominated by Rangers but in the end only one goal was
forthcoming which came after Gordon had had a twnety five yard drive hit the
bar. A Steven corner was headed out to McCall who hit a Buddy. It was going
wide until ba' greedy stuck out his foot to direct it into the onion bag. The
game ended as a contest as Rangers stroked the ball about confidently and a
few chances were missed, the big man the main culprit. SAlly almost had his
third hat-trick of the season against Motherwell when Dykstra saved well from
him three minutes from time.

Best player on the park was Steven, who after a nightmare on Tuesday was
outstanding. McCall, Gordon and even Dizzy also played well although this was
a good team performance. On the weather front, it's getting colder every week
and I was sure that frostbite had set in to my taes.

Rangers:
Goram, Nisbet, Robertson, Brown, McPherson, McCall, Steven, Gordon, McCoist,
Hateley, Michailichenko

The fourth round draw was made after the game at Fir Park and it paired
Rangers away to Ayr United in the fourth round. Home ties, forget it!

Next game is on Tuesday at home to Falkirk then it's back to Motherwell on
Saturday.

-- 
 Scott Jackson              e-mail scottj@spider.co.uk
 Spider Systems
 Edinburry                  "...I only score great goals. Some of them less
 Sco'lind                    great than others admittedly." - A McCoist
From: iam@rlmtc.ENET.hcc.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Scottish Cup game live in USA
Date: 7 Jan 1993 10:19:02 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

For anyone living in the New York metropolitan area, the Scots American club in
Kearny, New Jersey will be screening live at 10am, the Scottish Cup 3rd round
game between Motherwell and Rangers on Saturday January 9th.
non members welcome

the jersey jagsfan
From: dagn@colargol.edb.tih.no (dagn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: I've got an idea !!!
Date: 6 Jan 93 10:15:39 GMT
Organization: Colargol, Trondheim College of Engineering
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Douglas Luo (math1pu@jane.uh.edu) wrote:
: In article <9301052121.AA05893@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu>, SM21128@ARIZVM1.ccit.arizona.edu (Curly Howard) writes...
: >Attention everyone !!!
: > 
: >I've got an idea !!!
: > 
: >There are several servers on the net (like "Mud", "IRC", "Chess" etc) where
: >everyone can telnet to and talk (IN REAL TIME) with others telnetted to the
: >server.
: > 
: >So, if several football lovers like us telnet to one of those servers at the
: >same time, we will be able to have a good real time football talk, which will
: >be, I guess, much more interesting than just replying to each other's messages
: >in "rec.sport.soccer".
: > 
: >Also, imagine a situation: some kind soul in Europe watches an interesting
: >game (like EuroCups quarterfinal, for example) on TV. He wants to help us, poor
: >European-Americans and American-Americans, who have no access to football on TV
: >in the US... We all (the kind soul and the poor us) get to the server... and he
: >tells us what's going on... what a nice live report !!!
: > 
: >Well, guys, think about this opportunity. We can make our lives more interes-
: >ting... as for me, I am just dying to have a good real time talk with other
: >football fans !
: > 
: >                                           Curly Howard.

: This might work, guys!

The only problem being the difference in time....
.....OK, no big problem really (at least not for me :-)

: Doug

: SOMETIMES I THINK I LEARN MORE IF I CLOSE ALL MY BOOKS.

--
Your conscience never stops you from doing anything. It just
stops you from enjoying it.
	Dag-Ole 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: 074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za
Subject: Liverpool is crap ...
Organization: Wits University
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 17:56:34 RSA

All the hype about Barnes being injured and that all will be alright
as soon as he is back is turning out to be nothing more than just that : hype.
 
Even ardent poolies must admit that the BELOVED Souness has got to go.
He may have been a good player in his days (although a dirty one), but
he cant manage, at least not in the English Premier League.
 
Glasgow Rangers, do you have a job for him? He has a good record with yous!
 
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From: CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: kick back to the keeper
Date: 5 Jan 1993 15:42:53 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In it's infinite wisdom, the NCAA decided that the implementation of
the backpass rule (which all other countries implemented last July)
would be too much of a hardship for the college coaches to train their
players.

Give me a break, this is not rocket science here.

Apparently, the NCAA will comply _next_ season.

Chris

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: MOORES@BNR.CA (Richard Moores)
Subject: Re: Proud to be a Man Utd fan
Followup-To: rec.sport.soccer
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:10:37 GMT

In article <16B5310858.074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za>,
074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za wrote:


> Also, United did not commit major crimes like the scum Liverpool.
> Remember Heysel where 38 people were killed by their hoologan fans.
> Then, the Hillsborough disaster where half the hooligan fans were so
> pissed that it agravated that unfortunate situation even more. Take
> Arsenal as well. They are always involved with the law; the footballing
> law and otherwise. From the manager to the players, always involved
> with the law. The players too, play some other type of sport. Looks
> more like rugby at times.

In summary, your statments are un-informed, beligerent, insensitive,
uneducated, obnoxious, illiterate, CRAP.

All of the things I would associate with the hooligan elements you seem to
deride so knowingly.

  
> United have their share of faults too, no doubt. In the 70's they had
> a bad reputation with the fans but all of that was sorted out a long
> time ago. 

Oh Yeah! How many games have you actually attended then ?

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Oh I'm sorry I didn't relaize you were from South Africa, that explains
alot. 

I would have thought you would know better than make such uneducated and
inflammetary comments coming from a land with such a reputation for being
home to an embarrassingly vocal population of narrow minded and biggoted
individuals.

Disgustedly Yours,


Richard Moores - Koppite In Exile                     
Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada.  
MOORES@BNR.CA                            
FAX:(613) 763-7283 Phone:(613) 763-4687 
My opinions, not BNR's   


Liverpool Football Club
THE most succesfull English Club
of all time...just check the facts
From: cat+@andrew.cmu.edu (Chris Alan Thyberg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: US vs England in Boston area
Date: 7 Jan 93 11:03:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.sfH9eBy00VQpA0u1cw
	<1993Jan6.210015.18518@wam.umd.edu>
Organization: Educational Tech, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

How does one get tickets for US Cup matches?

	-c-
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: paull@plasma.co.uk (Paul Lee)
Subject: Owls v Norwich
Reply-To: paull@plasma.co.uk
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:06:28 GMT

Sheffield Wednesday 1 - 0 Norwich

The Owls went up into 11th place as a result of a slim 1 - 0 victory over Norwich.
They only had themselves to blame for the tense finish, as they missed several
chances or were unlucky in other instances. After having a John Sheridan goal
ruled out, another John Sheridan shot produced a kind rebound for Nigel Worthington
to knock in. Several chances followed, with Chris Waddle seeming to refuse to shoot
first time, otherwise he could well have had a hatrick. His worst was in the second
foot with the keeper not even in the goals all he had to do was kick the ball in, but
he went for a dribble and the chance went astray. For the rest of the game he was
brilliant with some great through balls. David Hirst had three good chances in the
second half and will be dissappointed not to score at least one. He was substituted
for Chris Bart Williams in the last ten minutes. Bright had a few good shots, and
a header that went just past the post. Bart Man should have scored late on but
he dragged his shot wide. Earlier in the game Robbins had gone off in the first half
with a suspected broken ankle. At half time the Owls replaced Viv Anderson with Paul
Warhurst.
	Danny Wilson had a terrific game in the centre of midfield, replacing 
Carlton Palmer. His tackles were very hard, and he made some excellent passes.
He was unlucky not to score with a great 30-yard volley that went just wide.

Up the Owls


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		Cheers,
			Paul Lee (Hoppy)


			Meiko Scientific Ltd.

			Email: paull@meiko.com

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Subject: Re: US Soccer News
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:17:43 GMT

In article <9212300417.AA17520@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen) writes:
>Marco, you and Ken raise some interesting points.
>
>However, in this case (the release of US players) it is complicated by
>the fact that their clubs don't wanting them taking transatlantic
>flights in the middle of league and cup seasons. Now if they were Germans
>playing in Italy (for example) the logistics would (in theory) be a lot
>easier. The "solution" here is for Bora to base the club in Europe
>for March - May of '94 and still get to work out with most of the squad.
>
This would be the sensible thing to do, but I wonder whether it'll
happen given the USSF investment in training facilities and housing
for the set of players who have no current club affiliations and who
have signed contracts with the USSF? We've already seen a set of games
arranged for the U.S. in Jan/Feb of this year when it would seem more
prudent to take advantage of the mid-winter break in Europe and play
games over there. Instead, we have a set of fairly meaningless
friendlies that will inevitably have depleted squads for all teams
involved.

Although it's true that South American and other countries have
similar sorts of problems to the U.S. as regards release of European
based players, it does seem that the U.S. has the extra problem of the
fact that given that there's no meaningful domestic professional
league, it has to go to the length of directly employing
those players who have no current club affiliations. Not only that, it
has to somehow provide those players with competitive games, and avoid
conflict when the European based players roll up shortly before the
World Cup and take the leading roles. I also wonder how sustainable
such an approach is past '94, when the glamour of hosting has waned
and no professional league is in sight...

--
Colin Morris    Ingres, an ASK Group company     cmorris@ws2s.ingres.com

"conservatives don't know how to conserve anything except their own
privileges and wealth"
From: peterm@pinhigh.Aus.Sun.COM (Peter Miles)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: What is "parrying" the ball?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 02:13:32 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: peterm@pinhigh.Aus.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: pinhigh.aus.sun.com

In article 13700@oracle.us.oracle.com, csjohnso@geezer.us.oracle.com (Christie Johnson) writes:
My team is playing in a tournament this weekend, and one of the rules is 
"no parrying the ball."  What does that mean? 

Thanks,

Christie


Christie,

I cannot be sure what it means in your neck of the woods, but here downunder, -

"to parry a shot" -  means for a goalkeeper to semi-catch the ball as it is shot at him/her..

In other words, it is a way to get around the FIFA ruling that forbids a GK to control the ball, with the hands, then release the ball(i.e. dribble the ball with the feet, to the edge of the PB), and then pick the ball up again , WITHOUT the ball leaving the PB and being touched or played by another player, to clear the ball downfield.

This act is commonly known is the sport as "using your area", but has been proven to be an unnecessary timewaster. 

Thus when this FIFA ruling was brought in about 7 or 8 years ago,, GK's were taught by coaches to parry shots(i.e. catch the ball, and drop the ball at your feet in the same movement, resulting from the shot), and then dribble the ball to the edge of your PB, and clear downfield.

In refereeing circles, we were instructed NOT to penalise such actions, as the GK was not deemed to have "controlled " the soccer ball, by parrying the ball.

Of course, personally, I think such a ruling was a nonsense, as no goalkeeper will drop the ball at their feet, unless they had controlled the ball to their own satisfaction, thus the ruling was being
abused by ALL Goalkeepersm and the FIFA ruling was only semi efficient in erradicating slow
play.!!!!

If a goalkeeper is guilty of controlling the ball with the hands, releasing the ball, and controlling the ball with the hands again, WITHOUT the ball leaving the PB and being touched or played by another player, then the referee must award an IFK at the point in the PB where the GK controlled the soccer ball the second time.

The main aim is to try to get the GK to release the ball as quickly as possible, this is the main thinking behind the new "No backpass with the feet" ruling which is now in vogue.

I hope this explanation is clear enough for you.

Regards  Peter.
From: mphillip@matai.vuw.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Hereford v. Newcastle
Date: 10 Jan 1993 21:06:13 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Why is it that every year WITHOUT FAIL during the first or second week in
January, Ronnie f---ing
Radford and co are always mentioned? Will us Maggies ever be allowed to
forget this grim moment in our history? Why don't we talk about some other
good upsets eg Leatherhead. Colchester or my personal favourite cup
run---Blyth Spartans who were robbed by the ref versus Wrexham and lost the
replay at St James' Park, anybody else remember/ go to that game??

Disgruntled due to painful reminder of the way things WERE
From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Scottish Premier Result 5th Jan 1993
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:20:30 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster


Scottish Premier Division Result
================================

Rangers 3		Dundee Utd 2
(Hateley, McCall	(Welsh, Perry)
McCoist)
 

Rangers now 7 points ahead of Aberdeen and *12* points ahead  of Celtic with
a game still in hand.  

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Sandy Mackinnon,                       + 
At the Cutting Edge of Fuel Science,   + 
University of Strathclyde,             +      cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk 
Glasgow,                               + 
Scotland.                              +  
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: stevensm@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Mik Stevens)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Shearer and injury
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:27:38 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.soccer
Organization: Dept Computer Science, University of Manchester, U.K.

After a number of weeks without their multi million pound striker Alan
Shearer, Blackburn fielded him in the Tues night Coca-Cola Cup tie 
against Cambridge.  Shearer then proceeded to collapse after about 25
minutes with a re-occurence of the injury.  The TV coverage shows that 
he was not subjected to any harsh treatment, its just that he wasn't fit.

This is not just the well being of Blackburn Rovers F.C. but English 
chances of W.C. qualification.  It's not as if the match was against
really outstanding opponents, or even that Mr Daglish had a lack of 
replacement players.  Wergle(or Wiggley) made the Blackburn side look
much stronger.  Kenny needs to get a grip or else he'll find himself
`resigning' from the pressure to take up the Scottish Managers job.

mik
From: PKARLIOT%KNOX.BITNET@UICVM.UIC.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Just another example of the 'fabulous' Eng
Date: 6 Jan 1993 21:30:19 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

      Well, I think that Paisely left Liverpool sometime in the mid-80s.
I used to know a lot about Liverpool when I was in Greece, my native country.
But for the last 4 years I have been in the United States as a student and I
have somehow neglected soccer; therefore I may not remember some things.
But the thing I know is that Liverpool was really strong when Paisely was there
and I don't think there is much doubt about that.
                                                                 Panos
From: Helgi.Hjalmarsson@cs.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: SOCCER NEWSGROUP
Date: 8 Jan 93 06:53:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.wfHP67600hNlQp70Ya
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Soccer fans,

I agree on splitting the newsgroup, but I recommend a different type of
splitting. How about splitting it into: 

	rec.sport.soccer.results &
	rec.sport.soccer.discussion

The postings on the results B-board would only be announcements about
matches and requests for results, beside results in matches. Everything
else would go on the discussion B-board.

This way one can obtain the results faster, also when one sees results
of an interesting match, looking at the discussion B-board becomes a
natural next step.

Helgi Hjalmarsson
Organisation: European Space Technology Centre (E.S.T.E.C)
Date: Tuesday, 12 Jan 1993 09:51:17 CET
From: <SHUGHES@ESTEC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Celtic Pull Out Of SSL

I`m getting a bit sick of every blue nose putting the boot into Celtic.Let
me put the record straight about 90% of all Celtic fans would like to see the
end of the Kelly and White family dynasty at Parkhead,but the fans are
cannot do a thing.I know the board are doing their best to destroy things,but
what do you expect the fans to do?
Oh Mr.Jackson a few points about your note "Celtic are not needed in the SSL".
Over my festive break in dear old Glasgow I thought I heard some drivel from
Ranger`s fans but this statement surpassed such like.You go on to mention
about Celtic crowd only being 16,000 this makes me think back to when Rangers
had "Ham and Egg" in charge at Ibrox,I seem to recall a crowd of half of that
at Ibrox?
You can take the piss all you like but if Celtic are as bad as you make out
why did you not win by three or four on the 2nd,but you no probably thought
Rangers were the best team!
Steve Hughes
watching at Ibrox.
From: Tamas Kovacs - EECS <tkovacs@tribble.eecs.wsu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: addition to mailing list
Date: 4 Jan 1993 12:51:48 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hi!
Through a major neglect on my part, my computer account has been temporarily
disabled here.  Therefore, I was probably taken off the mailing list.
Could you please put me back on!?
Thanks a million!  
I would die without soccer news!
My name Tamas Kovacs   account #: tkovacs@eecs.wsu.edu
Grazie!