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From: zawodny@arbd0.larc.nasa.gov (Dr. Joseph M Zawodny)
Subject: Re: Sexist Statement
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 11:35:58 GMT

OH come on, the gals are really just some of the guys.  The english languange
naturally favors the masculine forms of nouns when refering to people,
occupations, or things in a generic way.  It is not intended to be sexist, but
it is just the way things are.  It is unfortunate the some persons (female and
male) are way too sensitized to this sort of stuff.  In my own life, I do try
to mix my choice of words to alternate between feminine and masculine forms.
So perhaps I fall into my unfortunate catagory.  I think that neither an
apology nor a retraction was necessary.

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 Joseph M. Zawodny   (KO4LW)                      NASA Langley Research Center
 zawodny@arbd0.larc.nasa.gov                      MS-475,    Hampton VA, 23681
 ko4lw@wb0tax.va  (packet)
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Kenwood TH-77a TX.Stop 
From: jangus@skyld.UUCP (Jeff Angus)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 13:56:07 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Grendel's Lair


In article <derry.714845858@milton> derry@milton.u.washington.edu writes:

  > 
  > I love my Kenwood TH-77a's manual (yeah, right...) but I haven't
  > figured this one out.  A friend of mine asked what the TX.Stop
  > function is supposed to do.  He inadvertently turned it on, and
  > couldn't transmit (obviously...tx stop!)

  Yeah, that's what it's there for. It's REAL handy after you've modified
  the radio to "monitor" the local police frequency and you sit on the
  microphone or are wearing a VOX headset in traffic.

xenon!skyld!jangus   < This space left blank intentionally. >
J Angus, PO Box 4425, Carson CA 90749-4425 voice (310) 324-6080

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From: levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Cellular Frequencies
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:15:15 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:
|Huh?  If memory serves, I've never seen a television UHF dial that went
|beyond 60 in the first place.  

Youth speaks.  All tvs with uhf went from 14 to 83 (probably any tv
that has an old click-tuner for uhf does that).

|				And I know for a fact that I've never
|heard of a UHF station higher than 54 (the local UHF PBS affiliate).

In my local area are:
	Channel 56 (Independent, Boston)
	Channel 60 (Independent, Merrimack, NH)
	Channel 66 (Independent (home shopping), Lawrence*, MA)
	Channel 68 (Monitor channel [for now], Boston)

		/JBL

*Or Framingham, I forget

=
Nets: levin@bbn.com  |  "GO TO JAIL.  Go directly to jail. Do not pass
POTS: (617)873-3463  |  Go.  Do not collect $200."
              N1MNF  |           -- Parker Brothers
From: jon@Turing.ORG (Jon Gefaell (KD4CQY))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Speaking Of Q-Codes...
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:58:14 GMT
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.

In article <1992Aug25.085437.8483@vax.oxford.ac.uk> malcolm@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.003345.1309@n8emr.cmhnet.org>,
>gws@n8emr.cmhnet.org (Gary Sanders) writes: 
>
>Gary's comment hits very close to my thoughts on the matter. To be honest, it
>does not matter one ha'penny-worth (cent/dime/nickel-worth to most of you) to
>me whether pro-words or pro-signs are used ... but I note with interest that
>no-one has mentioned the matter of pro-words being language dependent whereas
>pro-signs are not. OK on VHF all parties will probably speak the same language
>and English is "Universal" but in noisy international HF voice contacts I can
>see good cause to use pro-signs.

Actually, the pronounciation of the alphabet by persons of diferent languages 
is quite diferent, so this belys your assumptions above, the ponounciation of
alphabet has been designed to best as possible(?) bridge these diferences,
with an obvious bias towards english language pronounciation.

Note that many languages do not even use the same alphabet as we do, making
_any_ use of the alphabet a stretch. In other words, Pro-signs are as
languge dependant as pro-words, when spoken. Interestingly, in digital
modes, where pro-signs are appropriate, this languge barrier is lessened.

IT is absurd to assert that 'Standby' is more dificult to interpret than
'QRX' as well. Especialy since it takes longer (there are more vowels)
to say the latter.

The matter is simple, and recognized communications authorities have 
decided, after much research and experience, that Pro-signs are most
effective for digital modes, and Pro-words for voice.

Anything else is improper. Of course, you may obviously do what you
want in an unregulated service like Amateur Radio(!) where the main
operative purpose is to rag chew ... IT simply won't do for MARs 
operation, for instance, where discipline is required.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: feg@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (forrest.e.gehrke)
Subject: Re: Most fitting commercial callsigns
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:21:43 GMT

In article <9209011809.AA06239@lanmail.NCSC.NAVY.MIL> Mahan_Stephen@lanmail.ncsc.navy.MIL writes:
>
>I recall long ago reading about the only commercial station west of the 
>Mississippi using a W prefix callsign--station WACO in (you guessed it) 
>Waco, Texas.
>
It may not be apt, but it's west of the Mississippi: WCCO in Minneapolis.
I forgot the call but I believe there is another one in FortWorth.
I'm sure there are more.

Forrest Gehrke k2bt

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Subject: Re: Question on antennas
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 16:13:19 GMT

In article <714895269.AA00001@eilc.UUCP> Michael.Baumann@f60.n374.z1.fidonet.org (Michael Baumann) writes:
>  I have heard the FCC (Federal Communications Commission) has a
>rule/law/regulation that can be used to over turn a Home Owners' Association's
>ban on antennas.

You are probably thinking of FCC PRB-1.  However, PRB-1 is of no help to
you with regard to Home Owner's Association rules, etc. which are a
purely private agreement between the property owner and the Home
Owner's Association.  Generally, those Home Owner rules are part of
the CC&R's that impact your property through the deed.  

At this point in time, I am unaware of any successful use of the FCC's
PRB-1 ruling to overturn any private (eg. Homeowner Association, CC&Rs,
etc.) rules that restrict antennas.

Some things to consider.....if your town house developemnt already
has other homes with antennas, then the Homeowner Association's
rules may no longer be enforcable.  Also, is there even still a
Homeowner's association that exists (ie. meets regularly, has
officers, etc.)?   Your best bet at this point is
to check with an attorney before doing anything rash.  Also, take
a look in the ham magazines and you'll find several antennas for
sale that are easily hidden or are disguised as other things that
most non-hams wouldn't think are an antenna.  Interior and/or
hidden antennas can be very successful for many types of ham operation,
especially the VHF repeater modes.

Hope this helps.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bill Sohl (K2UNK) BELLCORE (Bell Communications Research, Inc.)
Morristown, NJ             email via UUCP      bcr!dancer!whs70
201-829-2879 Weekdays      email via Internet  whs70@dancer.cc.bellcore.com
From: gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Looking for a _really_ feature-packed handheld dual bander
Date: 30 Aug 92 00:15:00 GMT
Reply-To: gavron@ACES.COM
Organization: ACES Consulting Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1


	I just returned the IC W2A back because it doesn't do what
	I want and the sales clerk tells me there isn't anything like
	what I want in a handy (although it is in a mobile).  Someone
	care to prove him wrong and let me know what is out there?

	I need:
	- 2m/70cm dual bander
splits
	- Odd splits on at least 20 memories, with the offset between
	  TX and RX varying from a multiple of 5KHz to 10KHz (the W2A
	  does not allow a 5KHz offset from RX/TX)
	- At least 40 memories total, hopefully not forced to be 20/20
	  VHF/UHF.
expanded rx
	- Ability to receive 800MHz band FM
	- Ability to receive 118-136MHz AM
	- Ability to RX two frequencies in the same band at the same
	  time.  In other words, I want to be able to listen to, say
	  146.0MHz and 147.0MHz on both VFOs at the same time (although
	  of course I'll only be able to transmit on the VHF VFO). 
oob tx
 	- Ability to TX out of band on both VHF and UHF (this can be
	   a mod, I don't care...) specifically the ability to TX in
	   the PSB and commercial bands ajacent to the amateur bands

scanning
	- Bitmapped scanning.  I.E. if I have put a memory on `skip'
	  then I expect it to take 0 time to scan past that memory.
	  For example, if I have 50 memories of which 48 are skip-set
	  then I expect this thing to scan those 2 frequencies 25 times
	  in the same amount of time it would normally scan all 50 once.

general
	- Direct frequency entry would be nice but not required
	- CTCSS encode required, decode would be nice
	- DTMF encode required, decode would be nice
	- DTMF memories would be nice

	Someone know of such a Handy-Talkie?

	Ehud Gavron, N5NEQ

--
Ehud Gavron        (EG76)     
gavron@aces.com
From: alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:17:23 GMT
Subject: Re: PL-259s on 9913 Coax
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, rossi@gvlf9-q.gvl.unisys.com (Pete Rossi) writes:

>In article <1992Aug28.131212.1923@biggus.moron.vware.mn.org> chrisc@biggus.moron.vware.mn.org (Chris Cox  W0/G4JEC) writes:
>>
>>Given that most people are going to be using 9913 at UHF frequencies, why
>>are you even considering using 5dB attenuators?
>>
First of all, the actual attenuation is negligible.  The insertion loss
is due to impedance mismatch:  the power is reflected, not absorbed.
Also it is nowhere near 5 dB at 432 MHz.  I measured it years ago --
less than a dB as I recall.

>Why do the antenna/equipment manufacturers continue to insist on putting
>PL-259/SO-238 connectors on VHF/UHF antennas/equipment??

>Why do they make a 10 dB gain UHF antenna then stick a UHF connector on it???

So long as the antenna is tuned to produce 50 ohms resistive AT THE
CONNECTOR TERMINALS, it doesn't matter if the connector impedance is
not 50 ohms.

AL N1AL

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: rats@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (ICOM IC-R70)
Subject: Re: Sexist Statement
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:06:49 GMT


|>Whoa there, fella! The Aaron Spelling mid-1970s program "Charlies Angels"
|>routinely used "guys" when an Angel was addressing fellow Angels.

|Is this serious, or is this a joke? CHARLIE'S ANGELS is being used as
|proof that something ISN'T SEXIST????? *Surely* you've got to be
|kidding!

Not at all. The fundamental question is whether or not the American
usage of "guys" i.e. "Popular culture" denotes at once a masculine
connotation, or can be an all encompassing word.

Surely you would not deny that "Charlies Angels" is popular culture, eh?

Here's an example:

Woman walks into a 2-person office, one male and one female employee.

She states: "Hey guys, want to go to lunch?"

Do you, as an American, denote anything discriminative in the use of
"guys" in this context? Jim Kearman was using "guys" in type of
context, and as such, was making no allusions to the masculine.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,alt.folklore.urban
From: heathh@cco.caltech.edu (Heath Ian Hunnicutt)
Subject: Re: Cellular Frequencies
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:16:23 GMT

geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:

>Huh?  If memory serves, I've never seen a television UHF dial that went
>beyond 60 in the first place.  And I know for a fact that I've never
>heard of a UHF station higher than 54 (the local UHF PBS affiliate).
	I have a 27" Zenith console model that can be tuned to channels
60-83.  Furthermore, there is a channel 63 in our area.  Of course,
I dilligently avoid tuning the TV to any stations that might share a
frequency with cellular phone transmissions.  :)

Heath

-- 
On Saturday, April 18, 1992, this .sig became self-aware.

From: goris@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Andy Goris)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:58:56 GMT
Subject: Vertical Colinear
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc


Does anyone have pointers to articles on colinear vertical antennas?
I was told there was an article in 73 a while back, but don't know where
to look exactly.

Can anyone tell me what's in the Ringo Ranger?  It's not just a long wire
with a matching section at the bottom, is it?  

I'ld like to build a portable colinear vertical antenna with 3-4 dipoles
in it.  If possible, I'ld like to build it out of aluminum tubing, and
run the feed line through the center of the tubing, to avoid distorting
the pattern.  Is it possible to do this? 

Andy Goris               goris@fc.hp.com
AA0CM

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gws@n8emr.cmhnet.org (Gary Sanders)
Subject: Re: PL-259s on 9913 Coax
Organization: HAM BBS, 614-895-2553 (1200/2400/v.32/pep)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 01:43:03 GMT

In article <9208311905.AA00995@ucsd.edu> William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.CR.rockwell.COM writes:
>probably because N connectors are:
>
>	1)	Expensive
	Maybe, but $1 or more is not that bad.

>	2)	Hard to find
	Run to your local Radio Shack and pick one up..  I am still trying
	to find out why RS is carring TNC connectors, who is using them??

>	3)	Hard to assemble
	I find N connectors a lot easyer than a PL259 connector.

>	4)	Instructions missing in Now You're Talking (handbook too?).
	Minor problem, most people put that book on the shelf after
	getting a ticket anyway.

>	5)	Not in the Amateur Radio Tradition (tm).
	I though  experimentation was in ART. trying something new
	has gotten us ssb and FM just to name two......

-- 
Gary W. Sanders gws@n8emr.cmhnet.org, 72277,1325
N8EMR @ N8JYV (ip addr) 44.70.0.1 [Ohio AMPR address coordinator]
HAM BBS 614-895-2553 (1200/2400/V.32/PEP) Voice: 614-895-2552 (eves/weekends)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: reisert@mast.enet.dec.com ("Jim Reisert, AD1C  25-Aug-1992 2004")
Subject: ARLB075 Section Managers Picked
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 17:01:52 PDT
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ZCZC AG97
QST de W1AW  
ARRL Bulletin 75  ARLB075
From ARRL Headquarters  
Newington CT  August 18, 1992
To all radio amateurs 
 
SB QST ARL ARLB075
ARLB075 Section managers picked
 
Ballots have been counted in ARRL section manager elections for
Connecticut and San Diego. Terms of office for newly elected SMs
begin October 1, 1992.
 
The results are as follows:
 
In the Connecticut Section 
    Betsey Doane, K1EIC, 826      
    Rusty Hack, Jr. NM1K, 219       
Doane was declared elected.   
 
In the San Diego Section
    John Fulton, WR6J, 545            
    Pat Bunsold, WA6MHZ, 233          
Fulton was declared elected.
 
Eight other sections were not contested and the following were
declared elected.
 
In the Idaho Section  
    Don Clower, KA7T     
 
In the North Dakota Section               
    Bill Kurtti, WC0M  
 
In the Ohio Section  
    David Kersten, N8AUH
       
In the Oklahoma Section
   Joseph Lynch, N6CL
 
In the Puerto Rico Section
   Telesforo Figueroa, KP4P
 
In the Southern Florida Section
   Richard Hill, WA4PFK  
 
In the Virgin Island Section
   Ronald Hall, Sr. KP2N
                     
In the Western New York Section
   William Thompson, W2MTA
NNNN

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,cmh.general,osu.general
From: sschend@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steve E Schendel)
Subject: Re: Help needed: Starting Amateur Radio hobby
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: cmh
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:36:33 GMT


The Ohio State Amateur Radio Club will have their first meeting on Sept. 23rd 
in the Scarlet Room in Ohio Union.  The meeting is at 7:30pm and in meeting  
room E.
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Question on antennas
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:08:58 GMT
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group

In article <714895269.AA00001@eilc.UUCP> Michael.Baumann@f60.n374.z1.fidonet.org (Michael Baumann) writes:
>
>        Not being involved in law, I have lost my way and need some
>assistance.  I have heard the FCC (Federal Communications Commission) has a
>rule/law/regulation that can be used to over turn a Home Owners' Association's
>ban on antennas.
>        I live in a town house and according to the Home Owners' Association,
>we (the tenants) are not allowed to erect an antenna.  As I have just passed
>the exams for my license (amateur radio) and have become involved with the
>local RACES (emergency communications in disasters) group I need an out side
>antenna.

You are thinking of PRB-1, but it won't overturn covenants. It's purpose
is to force *zoning* regulations to reasonably accomodate amateur radio.
The FCC says covenants are freely entered private contracts and that they
have no authority to overturn them.

Gary KE4ZV
From: root@cvbnet.prime.com (cvbnet)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Uselessness of ARES/RACES
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:38:21 GMT

From article <1992Aug31.140439.20204@samba.oit.unc.edu>, by Kirk.Smith@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Kirk Smith):
> In article <7865@public.BTR.COM> grady@public.BTR.COM ( ) writes:

.....comments deleted

> Am I the only one that suspects someone is just egging us on to get a
> reaction out of us?  I notice it's posted from a public account..  Humm...
> 

I think we should use the same strategy used when
someone steals a radio and attempts to use it.
Track him down (useless here)
Ignore him and he will give up.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,alt.folklore.urban
From: jmiller@afit.af.mil (Jeffrey C Miller)
Subject: Re: Cellular Frequencies
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 14:56:23 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.214645.4889@mv.mv.com> mem@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett) writes:
>In article <l9qhf3INNn02@news.bbn.com> levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin) writes:
>>In my local area are:
>>	Channel 56 (Independent, Boston)
>
>Which has the best TV callsign I know of:  WLVI.
>
>(LVI == 56 in roman numerals.)
>
They're not the only ones:  WXIX, Ch 19, Cincinnati.


-- 
Jeff Miller,  NH6ZW/N8,  AFA1HE (ex WD6CQV, AFA8JM, AFA1DO)
AFIT School of Engineering, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH
"You gotta expect some losses when you fly the heavies, man" -- Jeff Conn
"No brain, no pain" -- filched from some new movie promo
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From: n4hy@idacrd.UUCP (Bob McGwier)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Piccolo and Clover
Keywords: what they are
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:17:21 GMT
Organization: idacrd, princeton, nj

Piccolo is multitone OOK and Clover IS a form of PSK, it is QAM.
According to the last propaganda I saw, they had 16 point square
constellations in the highest speed mode.  This means it is not
JUST PSK, but also has an amplitude component.  I view this as
highly suspect without some pretty fancy adaptive equalization
going on because of the rapidly changing channel.  Suppose you go
through a 10 dB fade (not at all unusual on any HF channel), how will
you distinguish between a high amplitude point and a low amplitude point?
It is for this reason that I have chosen to limit my work to 600 to 1200 bps
and use only constant amplitude signals on each of the carriers that make
up the (now decidely nonconstant amplitude) composite.  I do not know if this
work will ever come to fruition since I cannot form a working relationship
with AEA and this is just too time consuming and frankly valuable to do
for nothing.

Bob

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jeffj@seeker.mystic.com (Jeff Jones)
Subject: 10 GHZ, Amateur band?
Organization: Mystic Software Pittsburg, Ca
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 05:20:37 GMT

This might be a dumb question but a friend and I were discussing 1.2 gig
and what else we might want to work. He mentioned 10 GHZ is the one he
would like to move up to. I said it sounded interesting but then I noticed
that it wasn't included in my fairly recent ham radio frequency chart. Is
this a actual ham band? I have heard mention of it many times and always
assumed that it was but now I'm not so sure. Thanks ahead for answering
my maybe dumb question! 8-) 

73!

Jeff

-- 
 Jeff Jones  AB6MB         | Prediction is very difficult, 
 UUCP   uunet!seeker!jeffj | especially about the future.
 Infolinc BBS 510-778-5929 |          Storm Petersen
From: ali@ukc.ac.uk (A.L.Ibbetson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham Stores in North FLA?
Date: 3 Sep 92 08:22:46 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

Thanks to

   "Michael A. Covington" <mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu>
   Fred McKenzie <fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov>
   Doug Faunt N6TQS 415-688-8269 <faunt@cisco.com>
   William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.CR.rockwell.COM

who took the trouble to nominate good stores for me.  I phoned
around and have now got an MFJ9020 qrp rig awaiting collection
from AES in Orlando when I arrive there next week.  Another
success for rec.radio.amateur.misc (and phones and credit cards).

Alan G3XAQ
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