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From: templon@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl (Jeffrey Templon)
Subject: Re: Tremolo system -- HELP !!!
Organization: NIKHEFK
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 08:53:45 GMT

dbi@cs.columbia.edu (Dmitry Babayev) writes:

>In article <BxGvtL.DxA@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> elee@zeno20.math.UWaterloo.ca (Salty Freckles) writes:
>>
[...]
>>factor - don't forget to stretch the strings out once they're fitted). It
>>normally takes five or so passes to tune a newly-strung guitar with any kind
>>of tremelo system. 
>>

Gotta be careful with the "any kind" there - a lot of players play
with the tremolo springs so tight that the bridge plate rests against
the body of the guitar.  Thus the trem can only be "pushed down"
to lower the string pitch (you can still make it shimmy, but you
can't do eddie van halen style whammy action.)  This has the
advantage that if you break a string in the middle of a song,
your whole guitar doesn't immediately go WAAAY out of tune.

At least this holds for lots of Fender Stratocaster players (I've
got mine setup this way).

>weak. When I tightened them up I was able to tune the strings in just a few
>passes !

Note with most guitar trems, you have the option of installing more
springs.  You might play around with a tradeoff between more springs
(thus more tension) or the fewer springs but tighter screws (again
more tension.)

I'm running four springs in my Strat ... it came with three installed.

Have fun.

					JT
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: ooptk@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: Anyone tried the new Morley wah + distortion pedal
Reply-To: ooptk@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 21:48:20 GMT

how's the distortion in the new Morley wah/distortion/volume pedal? 

I need a wah, but was wondering if the Morley is real noisey. A friend of mine
has one which really spews out the hiss when in wah mode, maybe just old parts
gone bad? 

What's the scoop on the new VOX wah pedal? Why is it $120 . Are some wah
pedals less noisey/capable of picking up radio stations??

thanks


Terry

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: pan2765@seas.gwu.edu (Crazyman Pan)
Subject: Re: 12-Strings
Organization: I have none...
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:22:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.211327.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> nmurrayr@cc.curtin.edu.au (Ron Murray) writes:

[stuff deleted]

>Anyone had experience with these things: 12-strings in general and Fender 12's>in particular?
>
> .....Ron

I have a 12-string acoustic -- except that it's not a guitar.  In fact I have
no idea what the hell it is.  It's got the neck of the bottom half of a guitar
neck (from frets 12-22) and is tiny (like a yukelele).  It's fun to play (but
hard on the fingers -- copper wires), but keeps going out of tune.  I'd have
to say that 12-strings are easier to play fast on (because of hitting two
strings instead of one) but definitely a bitch to tune.  Anyway, I never have
any problems with neck disfigurement, but that's probably because the neck is
so small anyway.  I have a feeling that the thing wasn't designed to be tuned
in the same key as a guitar.  Anybody out there know what this thing is?

						-- Crazyman Pan


(I'd rather be playing guitar...)
From: neilg@cee.hw.ac.uk (Neil MG Gall)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Joe Satriani in England
Keywords: Satch!
Date: 5 Nov 92 10:14:44 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

>The four dates for Satch concerts in England are ...
>
>Edinburgh Playhouse             1.2.93
	.
	.

Sorry for being picky, but Edinburgh is actually in Scotland.
Maybe someone else noticed.
From: ph2wbq@sdcc14.ucsd.edu (Mike Ellery)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Les Paul Question
Date: 4 Nov 92 22:07:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego


	I have an LP custom that is about 5 years old.  It is
equipped with the standard ivory nut (actually plastic, I guess).
I'm wondering if it's possible to get a metal nut and if such a
change is desirable.  Any experiences/suggestions?  If I were to do
this, would I go to a trustworthy luthier or would I need to go to a
Gibson authorized shop?  I know that B.B. King has a metal nut on
his Gibson, but that is a different guitar after all...
From: lonachon@mehta.anu.edu.au (andrew longhorn )
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Opinion Wanted: Steve Vai Gem BFP.
Date: 12 Nov 1992 22:24:13 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
Distribution: world
Reply-To: lonachon@mehta.anu.edu.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: mehta.anu.edu.au


Ok, I did it, I couldn't resist putting a $200 deposit on my new guitar,
Its an Ibanez Steve Vai GEM BFP, with the humbucker bridge/single mid
and humbucker/dual-single neck pickups. Scalloped 20 to 24 frets. Nicely
inlaid fretboard. All american woods, very nice. Sounds fantastic, very
clean.

I suppose I don't really want any opinions then, but if anyone has been
playing one for a while could they say what they have found out about it?

I am getting it for $2000 (Australian) with case.

Andyroo.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: Peter.Weekes@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: HELP!! Peavey Combo question
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:39:18 GMT

I am thinking of buying a Peavy SOLO battery powered amp. 
They retail here for US$190. How much are they in the USA ? and does anyone
have experience with this unit, ie is it reliable, how long do the batteries
last on a lowish volume ?

If anyone could let me know, I'd be grateful !


Thanks 

Peter
-- 
Peter Weekes          PARADOX Consultant             |
Box 7163              Parasitologist                 | 
Wellington South      Epidemiologist                 |   
New Zealand           Peter.Weekes@bbs.actrix.gen.nz |           
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: jtblair@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (John Blair)
Subject: Solo Acoustic Sound
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 06:46:06 GMT

I think Gregson and Collisters  "Home and Away" album has a hot acoustic
sound.  Rory Block as well, say "Mama's Blues"

john

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: dinsmm@rs6414.ecs.rpi.edu (Michael Dinsmore)
Subject: is a Alvarez Regent guitar any good?
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:55:26 GMT

hi.
I am interested in buying a guitar.....
someone is offering me a Alvarez Regent
Is it any good?  How much should I pay for
a used guitar?
Thanks a lot for your help
Email replies to:   dinsmm@rpi.edu

mike dinsmore
dinsmm@rpi.edu

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: carl@montebello.ecom.unimelb.EDU.AU (Carl Brewer)
Subject: Re: Bridge adjustments
Organization: Dept. Engineering Computer Resources, Melbourne Uni.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:38:05 GMT

In article <BxGMxo.7xE@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> gwaldron@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Glenn Waldron) writes:
>On the bridge of the guitar, each string has two small Allen screws
>for adjusting the action of the string.  But what are the Phillips
>screws behind the brigde for?  I know they move the individual
>bridge pieces (don't know the terminology) forward and backward,
>but what does this accomplish?

it allows you to tune the harmonics of the neck

>
>- Glenn.
>
>
>-- 
>
>Glenn A Waldron                                  gwaldron@csugrad.cs.vt.edu
>Computer Science - Virginia Tech                aq078@cleveland.freenet.edu
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------


-- 
 Annal  Natrach, Usthvah Spethed,         carl@ecr.mu.oz.au (IRC: Bleve)
 Dochoel Dienve                           carl@munagin.ee.mu.oz.au
					  carl@montebello.ecom.unimelb.EDU.AU
 Merlin, where are you?  Call your dragon, to weave a mist...
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: till@acid-rain.lucid.com (Don Tillman)
Subject: Re: Active guitar preamp batteries
Reply-To: till@lucid.com
Organization: Lucid, Inc.
	<1992Nov10.221330.4645@vicorp.com>
Distribution: na
Date: 11 Nov 92 11:15:31

   From: ron@vicorp.com (Ron Peterson)
   Organization: V. I. Corporation, Northampton, Massachusetts
   Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:13:30 GMT

   >>What are some good indications that my electric guitar is ready for
   >>a battery change?

     It's not difficult to add a battery check circuit if you're willing to
   modify your guitar slightly.  A small hole in either the front faceplate
   or the rear battery compartment cover can be drilled and an LED fitted
   there.  (These panels are easily replacable if you decide you HAVE to have
   a completely unmodified guitar some day.)  With the right resistor connected 
   to it the LED brightness is a good indicator of the batteries condition.

This idea has one serious flaw; an LED draws roughly 20 times the current
that a preamp draws.  

[...]
				  To improve battery life add a micro-miniature
   pushbutton switch so that the LED is only connected when the button is pressed.

Better.

   A variation on this is to use one of those LED's with a built in flasher.
   By setting the resistor value carefully it will stop flashing as soon as
   the battery starts to get weak.  

Assuming the flash circuit doesn't draw a healthy amount of current or
throw transients on the guitar signal.

  -- Don
From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Tube Emulator
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:58:57 GMT
Distribution: alt.guitar
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) writes:

[..about 12AX7 FET emulator]

>There's one very important parameter that no known solid state device can
>come close to what a tube amplification stage can do: the slewing rate.
>Tube amps easily reach slewing rates of 75 to 100 volts per microsecond
>and solid state devices (yes, even FETS) are hard pressed to reach 25 volts
>per microsecond. 

Never one to miss a challenge.....Thyristors :-)

>The high slewing rates (ability to "accelerate" from lower
>frequencies within a complex waveshape to the higher frequencies -- my layman's
>definition, if anyone else has a better or more descriptive one, please post)
>of tube-type amps is one of the main reasons for their outstanding clarity over
>solid state amps.

Hang on a minute, isn't slew rate defined as the ability of a device to go from
one voltage to another quickly, rather than from a low frequency to a high
one?

{Shuffles through his data book...}

It's measured in Volts per microseconds, not Hz per micro second.


Dave

-- 
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: juggle@athena.mit.edu (???)
Subject: Wanted:  info on Les Paul Invader.
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:49:20 GMT


Maybe someone out ther in NetLand can help me.

I know of someone who is selling their Les Paul.  Only this guitar is 
not the standard Les Paul, but something called a Les Paul "Invader".  

To me, the guitar looked pretty much like a standard Les Paul with a
non-fancy paint job, non-PAF type pickups, and dot fret-markers rather
than the big fancy slab inlays.  But I only looked at it for a few
seconds, so I'm sure I didn't catch everything.

Can anybody out there tell me when these were made?  (Or are they still
being made?).  What are their features?  (Such as how do they differ from
the "normal" Les-Paul.)  About how much do they cost (new or used?).
Anybody out there own or have played one?

Any info. on this topic is appreciated.

	Thanks,
	Joseph Grossman,
	juggle@athena.mit.edu

PS. I would appreciate replies by e-mail, but posting is OK too.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: loffit@wam.umd.edu (Dixie Cup)
Subject: Re: String Guages [what to use?]
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:12:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.175757.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> jacobson_d@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:
>
>   I have a question about string gauges for electric guitars.  I've been
>using .10s on my Ibanez electric, but the other day I played a friend's 
>Les Paul that was fitted with .09s.  It was incredibly easy to play!  Bending
^^^^^^^^^^
>notes was so easy [too easy?] and playing fast Van Halenesqe pull-off runs
>was almost effortless.  I had no idea that a small change in string gauge
>could have such a profound effect.  Finger tapping was also incredibly easy.

The keywords here are "Les Paul."  I don't think your friend's guitar was
easier to play because it had slightly lighter strings, but because it was
a Les Paul.  Ibanez makes some wonderful guitars, but I've yet to find one
that plays as well as my Les Paul.  Stick with the .10s and maybe even switch
to .12s.  But don't switch to .09s.  I find .12s just as easy to bend as .09s
on electric guitars.  However, lighter gauge acoustic strings are significantly
easier to bend than heavier gauge acoustic strings.  You sacrifice a lot of
tone with .09s.  Also, it's so damn easy to break your high E string when
you're jamming hard.  Just my opinions.  Other people's experiences may vary.
From: jdalin@devildog.att.com (Jimmy Dalin)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Guitar recommendation
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:15:18 GMT
Organization: AT&T IMS - Piscataway, NJ (USA)

In article <1992Nov06.140444.22908@eng.umd.edu> ugo@eng.umd.edu (Ugo Piomelli) writes:
>
>
>
>I would like to buy an acoustic guitar in the $600-1000 range.  I play
>mostly folk, do a lot of fingerpicking. I am not too enthusiastic about the
>Ovation sound.   Does anyone have a favourite? I remember reading
>mixed reviews on the lower-priced Martin guitars.  Any opinion on that?
>
>Thanks a lot.
>

I am a happy Martin owner, but in the price range you specify I have found
that Taylor guitars always seem to sound better to me.  I would recommend
that you look for a guitar with a slightly wider than average fingerboard to
accommodate fingerpicking, somewhere around 1 3/4" at the nut.  This would
rule out Martin dreadnoughts, which to my ears are too bass-heavy anyway.
That probably holds true for Taylor dreadnoughts as well, but I've never
played one.  But there are lots of Taylors with other shapes that should be
perfect.

At the risk of stating the obvious, in the end it's what you think that
counts.  Find a store with the biggest possible selection and try them all,
if necessary.
-- 
Jim Dalin            "No Salga Afuera"  
AT&T                    N.Y.C.T.A.
ATTMail id: !jdalin            
Compuserve: 72260,1573
From: boutin@verbosa.ncd.com (Paul Boutin)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Kings X guitar sound..
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:21:16 GMT
Organization: Network Computing Devices, Mt. View, CA, USA

Ty Tabor uses a Boogie Studio preamp, a few huge power amps, and Marshall
cabinets.  I'm not sure what his effects units are (you never know what
was actually added by the recording engineer anyway), and he doesn't tell
what unpopular out-of-production fuzzbox he uses because he's trying to
buy every one he can get in pawn shops while on tour in case his breaks.

Try a Boogie .22 amplifier with the EVM/Thiele extension cabinet under it,
and see if you can *not* sound like King's X when you turn it up.  Trust me :).
From: drf40@cd.amdahl.com (Daryl Fortney)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Frampton Talkbox Schematic (Other Performers)
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:21:12 GMT
Reply-To: drf40@cd.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale, CA


	Just wondering how would it sound if you modulated the guitar with 
the envelope of your voice through the mic. but using some sort of MOS type
transistor instead of a speaker and tube?  IE. Let your voice Gate the guitar
which would be connected to the Source and output the Drain or something like
that?  Seems like it might be alot clearer.

                 Voice (Mic.)---------|
                                      |
                                      |      MOSFET
                                   =======
                                    | | |
                 Guitar-------------- | -------------Output
                                     GND

	This may be over simplified, but anyone have any suggestions?

 
-- 
Daryl Fortney 
drf40@cd.amdahl.com
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: shielding paint
From: loman@cstp.umkc.edu
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:15:38 GMT
Organization: UM - Kansas City, Computer Science


Did some work on the git-fiddles this weekend. Tore em down, cleaned, and
painted the insides with conductive paint.  

The paint is nickel, and cost $3.85 at the electronics store.  But watch out,
it may not stick to the shiny guitar paint.  Peels like a sunburn when dried. 
(conductive dust means bad news to active electronics guts...)

Solution is to rough up the surface with 150 grit sandpaper (using the side
with the sand on it).  Sticks real well! 

  Bought 1 bottle, and had enough to do 3 guitars, one computer keyboard, 
and still have half a bottle left.
From: d1hej@dtek.chalmers.se (Henrik Jonsson)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Edge is God...
Date: 9 Nov 92 01:44:55 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

caedmon@cats.ucsc.edu (Axeman) writes:

>Oh please.  Hendirx and Page are two people whom I'm glad died.  They got too

??????

excuse me but when did Jimmy Page died???  I'm just curious
I havent heard anything like that since I saw him 'live' on
MTV for aprox a year ago....

If im wrong I'm *DEEPLY* sorry but if I'm not wrong then
you obviously must be...(sigh)

- Henrik Jonsson   d1hej@dtek.chalmers.se
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.guitar.tab,alt.guitar.bass,rec.music.makers,rec.music.makers.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar.tablature,rec.music.makers.guitar.bass,rec.music.makers.bass
From: jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender)
Subject: ** ftp.nevada.edu stuff ** Re: mail
Originator: jamesb@redrock.nevada.edu
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:51:30 GMT

Hi everyone,

	I want to let everybody know that the correct address for pub/guitar
stuff is jamesb@nevada.edu and NOT root@nevada.edu. It has gotten to the point
where mail sent to that address will be ignored. I'm sorry it has come to this,
but  the problem has gotten WAY out of hand. Thanks.

*******************************************************************************
* From: James B     * "THIS IS NOT A FALSE ALARM. THIS IS NOT A TEST."        *
* jamesb@nevada.edu *                                       -- N. Peart       *
*******************************************************************************

Organization: Doctoral student, Materials Science and Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Date: Sat,  7 Nov 1992 08:11:35 -0500 
From: "Harold S. Lessure" <hl0t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Solo Acoustic Guitar


I like Leo Kottke - eg. "6 and 12 string Guitar" (Armadillo album)
Also, Marcel Dadi (French guitarist), but never saw his stuff in the
stores in the USA.

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: juggle@athena.mit.edu (???)
Subject: was fret positions, now decimal places
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:08:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.104253.725@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> HCHA8904593X@LUST.LATROBE.EDU.AU (PERRETT, ANDREW) writes:

>so if you decide on a scale length (nut to saddle) of 70cm you would divide
> 
>70/17.835 = 3.9248668349
> 
>ok now to stop the errors coming in subtract that from 70 = 66.075133165 
>now divide 66.075133165 /17.835 =3.704801411



Yeah, sure.  

I'd like to see *you* measure 66.075133165 cm.  (PS, a human liver cell
is about 0.00015 cm in diameter).

I have never built a guitar myself, but I'm pretty sure that if your
frets are off by say. . . .0001 cm (ie one micrometer,  significantly
less than the diameter of a hair) you won't notice the difference.

(Sorry, MIT student being anal).

Does anybody out there know to exactly what tolerances the frets on a really
good guitar are laid?  Better or worse than say .01 cm?

	Sincerely,
	juggle


Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: gerald.b.ross@um.cc.umich.edu (Gerald Ross)
Subject: Van Moretti Chord Melody Book/Video
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.14 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: gerald.b.ross@um.cc.umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan Math Dept
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:25:55 GMT

I'm considering purchasing the Van Moretti Chord Melody Method
(Books/Videos). Has anyone had any experience with this
series?  I know he writes a monthly column for
Twentieth Century Guitar Magazine.

Thanks
_______________________________________________________________

Gerald Ross

     ...It's 1992.  So where's my jetpack?
_______________________________________________________________
From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Tube Emulator
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:56:53 GMT
Distribution: alt.guitar
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) writes:

>In article <BxIF69.6D4@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning) writes:
>>neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) writes:

>>[..about 12AX7 FET emulator]

>>>There's one very important parameter that no known solid state device can
>>>come close to what a tube amplification stage can do: the slewing rate.
>>>Tube amps easily reach slewing rates of 75 to 100 volts per microsecond
>>>and solid state devices (yes, even FETS) are hard pressed to reach 25 volts
>>>per microsecond. 

>>Never one to miss a challenge.....Thyristors :-)

>Yeah but what would an audio amp made from any of the members of the thyristor
>family sound like ? :-) :-) :-)

Kinda jagged sounding! Just the job for a  tearing the face off your audience!


>>{Shuffles through his data book...}
>>
>>It's measured in Volts per microseconds, not Hz per micro second.

>You're right Dave, I guess I was thinking about complex waveshapes of a crunchy
>distorted guitar signal which have both accelerating (and decelerating) voltages
>and frequency components throughout a sample of the waveform. Wouldn't slewing
>rate best be described as the first derivative of the function defined by the
>waveform over some measured interval of time? ( I luuurve calculus...... NOT!)

Me neither - hence I'll duck this one  :-)

>Seriously, about the thyristors, the only analog circuits I've had much
>dealings with in this area are light dimmers (triacs) and horizontal outputs
>of TV's and video monitors (Silicon Bilateral Switches, only one waveform ---
>sawtooth!) Do you know of any of this family of semiconductors which could
>be perverted into guitar amp usage which could faithfully retain wave shapes
>and provide useful amplification with high slewing rates? Hmmmmm?

Thyristors are really only of much use in switching circuits. They're commonly
used to control big alternators by controlling the field current. Now THAT's
watts!!!  :-)

Someone's already indicated an op-amp in common use in CD players that'll
out slew any tube amp.
I'm not entirely convinced by this slew rate contribution. A 12AX7 ain't
no RF tube. The other problem I have is that you have a transformer coupled
output stage. If the power tubes could slew at 500v/uSec and you made them
run at that speed..well -Ldi/dt?  Could get rather  erm...spectacular inside
the amp box. A very heavy overload could get fairly close to that condition.
Mind, we're talking mad guitarists here with a desire for '11' on the volume
control.

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just skeptical about the level of contribution
to the overall sound that slew rate makes. Certainly a very *bad* slewing amp
will sound worse than even a moderate slewing amp but whether it's a major
contributory factor to the age old transistors vs valve amp question, I remain
to be convinced, particularly now solid state op-amps can more than match
your slew rate figure for a tube amp.

Dave
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