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From: SATELLITE@eldi.epfl.ch (Uncle Alias)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: who's Funnier
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:32:38 GMT
Organization: Satellite -- Enjoy!.. -- EPFL Students pub
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In <16B5CCB4F.MHART00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU> mason writes:

> In article <73979@cup.portal.com>
> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
>  
> >The funniest comic is "Groo the Wanderer."
> >
> >PAD
>  
> I keep telling people this, but they never believe me.  Possibly
> you have to be a few marbles short of a full bag to appreciate it.
>  
> -- mason

	Hmmm... I dunno about Groo too much, but IMHO Phil Foglio's stuff is
definitely hilarious. Especially his adaptation of Robert Asprin's Myth-Books.
Well, not to mention Xenophile, and all of his other works. This guy has a
definitively warped (no pun intended) sense of humor tha I happen to enjoy,
having exactly the same...

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From: sewon@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Wayne A. Wong)
Subject: Gaiman & McKean: Hell Raiser.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 26 Jan 1993 00:52 EST  

Did "Wordsworth" the Gaiman & Mckean collaboration for Epic's Hell Raiser
series ever come out?  If so, which issue of HR was it in?

 - Wayne. 
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From: panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden)
Subject: Re: Grimjack
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 07:44:17 EST

lecuyer@wam.umd.edu (Catherine L. LeCuyer) writes:

> In article <1993Jan23.044357.119786@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> ryk0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu
> >
> >        Does anyone else out there share my fanaticism about Grimjack or eve
> >        like him ? And does anyone know if anything might reappear ? Recentl
> >
> I read all the Grimjacks with John Gaunt, but about the time he died I needed
> to cut back on my buying so that title went. I really liked the title though.

I loved the John Gaunt story.  I loved the Truman art.  I thought 
Cynosure was the neatest thing since the Marvel Universe.  Still do.

So I went on reading it but Jim Twilly never meant much to me and I 
didn't really like the art from that point on.  Everything seems 
recycled, the magic wasn't as much fun... Still, the adventures of John 
Gaunt will always be memories of a good spell in comics for me.

And Munden's Bar.  I really miss Munden's bar.

Namaste,
Elizabeth



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From: time@sco.COM (Tim Ervin)
Subject: HELP !!!
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:07:47 GMT
Keywords: interested in starting my own comic biz



 Hi netters... this is the first time that I've posted to this newsgroup
so please bear with me.  If this isn't the appropriate group to be
discussing the matter in which I need help with, maybe someone can direct
me to a more suitable newsgroup.

Here we go...

If you fit into any of these three catagories, I would like to ask you
some questions:

                1) you own your own comic store
                2) you have, at one time, owned a comic book store
                3) you don't own a comic book store, but you know
                   the comic biz inside and out

I'm interested in the selling end (and of course the collecting end) of
the comic book industry.  I have been tossing around the idea of looking
into opening my own store.  I have a lot of ideas as far as attracting
business, but I have absolutely NO idea as to how I would even BEGIN
to start.  Space is not a problem.  I live in Santa Cruz, CA and we are
just now beginning to look like a normal town again.  There has been a lot
of rebuilding here since the eartquake in 1989, so space is not a real
problem.  If you can help me, please contact me via e-mail.

Thank you in adance.

P.S.  McFarlane is an absolute god.  If you don't believe me, ask the
McFarlane tattoo on my leg.


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From: hlow@mothra.syr.EDU (Handel Low)
Subject: "Blue, blue, gloomy voodoo..."
Organization: People's Equality Army
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 13:01:29 EST


Okay, so it's been out for awhile, and maybe somebody's
already raved about it here, but in my opinion, it's the
best three dollars I spent this week.

It's Thirteen O'Clock!!

Thirteen O'Clock is a thriller of sorts which reminded
me of one of those late forties radio show thrillers--in
particular, it reminded me of this occasionally hokey but
stylish radio show called "Murder At Midnight."

Basically, it has your basic monster movie premises along
with "hero behind the mask" Mr. Murmur.  Glowing skulls,
man-eating plants, a reporter who learns too much, sinister
surgeons, and a femme fatale to boot.

For black and white stuff, I was amazed at the effects--
the story takes on a really moody film noir feel about it.
My favorite is the nightclub singer behind the mask and
her haunting "melodies."  It's just a really nice touch
that has me thinking "blue, blue gloomy voodoo" every
now and then just because it sounds neat.

Incidentally, Richard Sala illustrated the back cover
of something...anybody know what it was...?

I hope there's more.  It's a definite Dark Horse winner.


handel "won't mind your business?  then die" low
From: cjburke@gw.syr.ge.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: DC: Vertigo
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:40:23 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: General Electric Co., Syracuse, NY

In article <93015.004043GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu>, GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> I don't find this sort of law stupid at all.  Why should somebody get special
> discounts and privileges just because they are of a gender preferred over my
> own?  Should a woman who has the same qualifications as a man be turned down
> for the same job just because she is a woman?  Saying "we need more women in
> this store" is akin to having stupid quotas in companies to fill the jobs with
> equally distributed members of each race despite the credentials.  These types
> of things reward or penalize people not because of the decisions they have made
> but because of something with which they were born and in which they naturally
> had no choice.  What sort of judge is that of a person's character?
> 
>                                                   --Eric

Don't ask us humble net readers - ask Bill Clinton.  His new cabinet has been
selected in such a race/gender-based manner.  if you don't beleive me, just 
check the editorials in USA TODAY, for Jan. 20.

-- 


 "Natural laws have no pity."       |   C.J. Burke
        Lazarus Long                |   GE Aerospace 
                                    |    (soon to be Martin Marietta)

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From: mlj44080@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael Lee Jacobs)
Subject: Re: The New Titans
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:19:00 GMT

AND....
	Dark Raven seems to have killed Danny Chase/Arella/Phantasm, which
is another good thing because hey Raven IS the mystic char in this book
nad all fakes deserve to be anhiliated.  the saga of DARK RAVEN is the  
Momentous issue #100 thingy that is up coming in 6issues otherwise known
as 2.4 years (though this last issue came out a mere 2 weeks after 94)
the TEAM TITANS are currently both at the farm of Donna and Terry long
which is sort of a Green Acres meets Xavier's school, AND still at the
mansion and are acting in both comics.  I do look forward to next month
when Jimenez starts working of Team Titans as well, that cover for issue
#5 was vintage Titans stuff...too bad the stuff within was vintage horse stuff.

	ADDITIONALLY  Dayton is reunited with the Hybrid which will have
their own comic soon and he is building some form of Installation.  My guess
is Titans Bunker or somesuch.  my advice is dont read Team Titans unless
you like meeting lots of new characters and getting lost in plot inconsitianices
(like was Dagon at the farm or not)

-- 
"Salam and good evening to you sir.  Welcome to Agribah, land of mystery
of enchantment, and the best deals this side of the river Jordan, come on down"
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From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: This Week's Trivia and Gossip Column
Organization: Yale University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 01:42:31 EST

In article <1993Jan24.054218.25604@netcom.com>
dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
 
>
>rkelly@carina.unm.edu (Robert Kelly):
>>Did you know...
>>
>>        A certain DC comics moralistic female spell-slinger, former
>>                member of the JLA, smokes the Ganja?
>
>I attribute this to the presence of a demon at the party.
>
>>        A dark and foreboding moralistic male spell-slinger, former
>>                member of the JLA, gets his shoes pissed on?
>
>Was PS really a member of the Justice League?  (What was his power?)
>
     Finally, a trivia question I can answer!  PS was sort of a member of
JLA (pre-crisis circa 1975; I remember because it was dealt with one of the
first comic books I ever got.)  PS sort of invited himself into the JLA; he
never was elected into it, but whenever he felt like it, he dropped by, and
got the others involved in various supernatural mess.  Others seemed to accept
that he was a de-facto member, though again, he was never formally inducted.
 
    Junsok Yang
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From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: MISC:  Missed Deadlines
Organization: The Little Miracle Squid of the Poor
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 03:15:57 GMT

In article <1jvk1uINN6cv@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy) writes:
>
>lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba) says:
>
>>Recently, people have been bitching about how late some titles are;
>>the Image books, Miracleman, On a Pale Horse...  
>
>Is Miracleman actually late, or are we referring to its
> one per 3 months normal schedule?  I can never tell.

It's "officially" late. How's that? In a burst of optimism, Eclipse
solicited for a bunch of Miracleman issues in the summer. Issues 
were supposed to be coming out concurrently with Miracleman: Apocrypha.
Instead, Miracleman ended up taking a break while Apocrypha came out.
I think, Eclipse had Miracleman #28 coming out in November.

Last rumor had Miracleman #24 in Eclipse's hands. When it will come out
remains a mystery. They seemed to be into getting out True Crime stuff
at the moment. 

(I just about lost it when I saw that the latest set of True Crime trading
cards had a special Electric Chair hologram. Too bad they didn't have a
little prisoner who jerked back and forth when looked at the card from
different angles.)

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  Lance "Cr2O3.2H2O" Smith  | "Some weather, huh? Hasn't been this cold since
    (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)     |  '83. Gee, that was some winter. Boys hockey team 
 This .sig may require some |  sure is doing good. Well, time to go get some
   fluencey in Minnesotan   |  lunch. See ya"   _Mr Peanut meeets the Windingo_
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: Rec.arts.sandman
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:46:16 GMT

<C1ABAJ.MGr@andy.bgsu.edu> (Greg Pallenik):
>...this newsgroup is "cluttered" with Sandman postings.  I'm finding it harder
>and harder to select post that interest me.  Would it be possible to get a
>rec.arts.sandman post?  

Something like this ought to be a Frequently Asked Question.
The answer is 'no'.

Briefly, there is a reluctance to create a newsgroup with a short life
expectancy.  (The Sandman run is expected to end in a year or two, though
there may be followups.)  Too, while it is realized that some readers
do not have access to 'kill' files, most do, and can screen out 98% of
the Sandman traffic simply by killing any message with that word in
the subject line.  In other words, such a group would benefit relatively
few people, for a relatively short time.

Sandman isn't the first title that has dominated this newsgroup for
a while.  When earlier titles had their day in the sun there were the
same suggestions to split them off into their own newsgroups.

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

   Aphorism is better than none.
From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Very Few Death #1 comments
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:52:45 GMT
Organization: Castle Anthrax

In article <C1Htxq.4CE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:
>Can't stand beer...

And you call yourself a Constantine.
-- 
Andrew Solovay    

"Wait a minute! You guys are NINJAS!"
                ---The Tick
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com
Subject: Re: Sandman Question ... (Awards)
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:19:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.165159.6475@cs.odu.edu>, bards_n@azalea.cs.odu.edu (Nathan Bardsley) writes:
> Yes, it was SANDMAN #17, =A Midsummer Mights Dream= that won the World
> Fantasy Award for short fiction in 1991.  And all the reports I've heard from
> folks who were there say tha the crowd went crazy when the winners were
> announced.  If there was anyone there who was "shocked or horrified that
> a =comic book= beat out works of prose" to paraphrase Mr. Ellison, was
> doing a good job of not being noticed by the majority of the folks who
> were sincerly happy for Mr. Gaiman.

Not only that, but I believe that the World Fantasy Award rules now
*explicity* exclude comic books from eligibility.

Joel
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From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: Cages: Information Please
Organization: The Little Squid of the Poor
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:37:33 GMT

In article <C1HpB0.3ow@news2.cis.umn.edu> bert@snowman.med.umn.edu (Albert Nakano  CBN) writes:
>Could someone please post a brief synopsis of what Cages is about?  Who is the
>writer, how many issues is scheduled, from which publisher, etc would be very
>appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Cages is a 10 part series written and illustrated by Dave McKean. It is being 
published by Tundra. So far six issues have been released. I try to 
recommend it whenever possible. 

What's it about? I think I've tried to answer this three or four times in
this group and I've never been happy with my answer. In a lot of ways, it's
about artistic creation and the self-doubt some artists and writers go 
through. It's also about cats. It has some really strange characters and
events, but it also captures the feel of a night's worth of conversation.

Could someone help me out here? It's just very hard to categorize and just
summing up what has happened so far almost makes the story sound trivial.

(part 1: reprint)-----------
  Lance "Cr2O3.2H2O" Smith | "He is an aristocrat and a peanut. Citizen 
    (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)    |  St Just says that is enough to warrant his 
    Reynard and Tybert's   |  death. I do not wish to argue with St Just."
        Biggest Fan        |             _Mr Peanut and the Reign of Terror_
From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Jack Of Hearts
Date: 24 Jan 93 09:47:47 GMT
Organization: Victoria University of Technology

ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (T-Dub/SGP '93) writes:

>I noticed that The Jack Of Hearts has appeared in some recent issues of The
>Silver Surfer.  I've been in and out of comics, so I ask, is this The Jack Of
>Hearts first appearance since his mini-series (a series I strain to remember)? 
>If not, anyone now where he has appeared and/or what has happened to him since
>that series?  I haven't really had the chance to pick up those issues of The
>Silver Surfer to find out whats going on yet, so any info is much appeaciated!

I know he was in a Quasar storyline. It was around issue 20.

Jed
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From: loki@netcom.com (James E Myers)
Subject: Re: Grimjack
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:53:58 GMT

ryk0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (RAJAN YASH KHANNA) writes:
>        Does anyone else out there share my fanaticism about Grimjack or even
>        like him ? And does anyone know if anything might reappear ? Recently

I certainly share your opinions.  I still consider GJ to have been the best
comic I've ever read, and am hoping that Ostrander might eventually manage to
get it back.  There's been some talk about DC eventually publishing it, but
I don't know how that stands right now.  By the way, Ostrander's writing the
SPECTRE right now, and doing very well with it.

--James
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Subject: Request for info: Spiderman Movie
From: <ALWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Tuesday, 26 Jan 1993 13:49:14 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

  There haven't been that many good movies on the big screen based on comics.
 DC had some decent movies but Marvel... well you know the story. Marvel's
 misfortune may change however, if this rumored Spider-man movie comes out.
 From what I heard, it is to be directed by James Cameron (of T2 fame), and
 it will have great special fx, Venom sholud be in it etc...

   This is just what I heard. Does anyone know more about this?

 Al
From: pechever@phakt.usc.edu (The Heckler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Getting non-comic readers started
Date: 25 Jan 1993 22:58:20 -0800
Organization: Digable planets (cool like dat)
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu

In article <C1F4sG.L7z@fc.hp.com] daq@fc.hp.com (Doug Quarnstrom) writes:
]Give your friends a copy of the novel _100 Years of Solitude_.  
]If you are goiing to proselytize them into reading something, it
]may as well be something brilliant.       

_The General in his Labyrinth_ is GGM's crowning work.  Beats anything else
he's ever written.  Just wanted to say that--but, alas, I drift off topic...

			later all,
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From: jlmiller@hamp.hampshire.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Getting non-comic readers started
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:10:58 GMT
Organization: Hampshire College
NNTP-Posting-Host: hamp.hampshire.edu

Well, I've been known to give friends "Saga of the Swamp Thing" and say," Read
the 'Anatomy Lesson.' If you don't like it, give it back." It's worked a couple
times.
Sandman is also great to start people out on..the problem with starting with
humor mags is you often need to know something about the medium to get the best
jokes, Stanley and his Monster being a case in point. (Also the second best
miniseries I've started in a long time, Death being the first.) It really all
depends on the personality of the reader.

And, of course, if you _really_ want to be cruel, there's always Cerebus...

jonathan miller
Write to me about 5Con in Ammherst, MA!
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From: tyg@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: Iris Allen & LSH
Reply-To: tyg@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Tom Galloway)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:59:15 GMT

In article <1jmuoeINN3g2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> danfrank@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Daniel Frank) writes:
> You know, I've been thinkin'. . .(and my head hurts). Wasn't Iris
> from the 25th century? Could somebody check their old Flash collection

Nope, Prof. Zoom, the Reverse-Flash, was from the 25th (or maybe the 24th;
anyway, somewhere in that vicinity) century. Iris was established as being
from the 30th.

Problem is, the future she was originally posited from is totally 
inconsistent with the LSH. Hers had acropolises, potential global war, and
water was extremely scarce, resulting in her parents sending her back in
time when she was a baby. As of now, we know of no reason why this would
have been done now. The technology which enabled her to live in the future
after her death in the present also doesn't exist in the former Legion 
timeline.

Also, since it's been established that Iris is not the oldest of the
West children, the original reason they had for adopting her when she
appeared in Ira's lab doesn't hold either, namely having been unsuccessful
at having children.

"I have exciting news for you consumers out there whose future plans include, 
at some point, death." --Dave Barry
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:24:41 -0500 
From: Anatole Wilson <aw3a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Barry Allen's return

gee, reading this newsgroup, I get the feeling there aren't too many
people happy to see Barry Allen back. Personally, I thought his death in
CRISIS was the greatest tragedy of the series, and am glad he's back.
Altho0ugh I find the current Flash series interesting, I've never really
warmed up to Wally West. 

I don't know what DC's plans for Barry are--the last several years of
Barry's series (starting with his "marital problems") were a disaster. I
felt like Cary Bates just got tired of writing the book. And then when
Carmine Infantino took over the artwork... well, no more need be said.
Here's hoping things are better this second time around.


Anatole Wilson, who's still waiting for 'Mazing Man to join the JLA.

 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: netter who discuss themselves
Organization: The Little Squids of the Coatless
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:53:04 GMT

In <C1895v.35G@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:

>albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones) writes:

[Elmo's Sandman pick-up line deleted.]

>>	It's okay, Elmo.  But it's all delivery.  If you walked up 
>>to her in your trenchcoat (after rumpling it) with a day's growth of
>>beard, and a Brit accent, well, it might work.

>And I meet him in my rumpled trenchcoat, cigarette in my mouth,
>and built in british accent, it might just be fun.  Kinda scary,
>but definitely interesting.

Has anyone thought this out a little? 

So far we have:

Mister E(lmo) and Lady Johanna Constantine

Now all we need are suitable replacements for Dr Occult and The Phantom
Stranger and the Net.Trench Coat Brigade will be ready to ride!

Me? No thanks. If no one minds I think I'll go home and watch The Italian
Job again. The bit with the Minis is brilliant.

Ob Image: The Spawn Mobile? Again!?! I'm paying close to $2 to look at 
Todd McFarlane's post-adolescent wet dream!?! Gee, maybe PAD can work in
a picture of the Villager once someone trades him for his copy of TCWS.

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  Lance "Cr2O3.2H2O" Smith  | "I guess you're right. The town would be better
    (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)     |  off if you had never been born. Now, I'll never
    Formerly disgusted.     |  get my wings. Well, what are you waiting for?
     Now just amused.       |  Go ahead and jump!"       _It's a Wonderful Nut_