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From: Dajuin_J._Yao@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 11:07:04 PST
Subject: Re: Unexpected error 160690...any ideas?

We had the same problem with a large stack (1.4 MB).  It seems that you have a
corrupted stack, and that means your stack is pretty much finished.  I don't
think changing any script will help.  I've consulted many people on this, old
hands at HC, and even the Claris Tech support.  Some say that if you found the
card that's causing the problem (by flipping thru all the cards), then create
a new stack and copy all the cards onto the new stack except the bad card (using
a script), you'll be saved.  But I don't think it'll work in most cases,
because often the problem is not with a single card, but the entire stack.
My advise is to recreate a new stack from scratch.  OR, if you have kept earlier
versions of your stack (when it was working), pull it out and copy all the
cards to a new stack one by one.  
Some say that compacting a stack frequently will avoid the problem, but my
corrupted stack was being compacted daily!

Hope this helps.
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From: goldader@akasha.ifa.hawaii.edu (Jeff Goldader)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: System 6.0.8L (?)
Date: 14 Nov 92 01:56:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov14.015658.27004
Distribution: na
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii

In article <D2150056.iacu3i@erics.infoserv.com> erics@infoserv.com writes:
>
>As a point of reference, I installed 6.0.7 on my PB100 and it seems
>to work fine. I've heard that others have been unable to run System 6
>on a PB 100, but I don't know what their difficulty is.
>

The only real problems I was able to find with 6.0.7 on my 100 are:

1) the backlighting doesn't work without the Portable CDEV version 1.3,
which you can get from ftp.apple.com.  Even then, the knob doesn't
work, you get a sliding bar in the control panel to control backlighting.

2) the Keycaps utility doesn't work properly because there's no
entry for the 100's keyboard in the Key Layout file.  You can copy
the KCAP resource for the 100 from 7.0.1 and then it works.  Still,
a few programs don't seem to know keyboard shortcuts, but that's
only a small percentage of programs.


When you consider that 7.0.1 is essentially useless on a 2Mb machine
(IMHO), and that the ~600K RAM 6.0.8 takes is fully half what 7.0.1
takes, System 6 makes the difference between a useless and useful
machine (again, IMHO).  I wouldn't go back to 7.0.1 (or especially
7.1!) for... well, anything I can think of.

Jeff Goldader			    Disclaimer:  They don't know what I say,
goldader@akasha.ifa.hawaii.edu	                 I don't care what they think,
"Welcome to our spaceship... mighty Hercules."   and we're all happy that way.
From: howarth@med.uth.tmc.edu (Jack W. Howarth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: System 7.1 Compatibility -- Is this an issue?
Date: 11 Nov 1992 16:02:13 GMT
Distribution: na


  According to Connectix MODE32 works fine under VM and 32 bit mode on SE/30's
and most Mac II's. When there is a problem, which pops up immediately, it
seems to be solved in every case by moving your Nubus cards around. Also,
they have never seen the MODE32 problems in house yet only from users.
                   Jack

--
Jack W. Howarth, Ph.D.                      Univ. of Texas Medical School
Research Fellow                                            P.O. Box 20708 
Department of Biochemistry                           Houston, Texas 77225
From: bill@kirkwood.sybase.com (Bill McFarland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: What is a suitcase, what is it for, why would I want to use one?
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:43:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: sybase.25747

What is a suitcase, what are they used for, why would I want to use
them in system 7?  What advantages are there for me?

I have 130+ fonts in my system folder, and it causes applications
(especially EXCEL 4.0) to take a LOT longer to startup.  But it's
fun to have a lot of fonts.

Bill
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Bill McFarland (415) 596-3578       {sun,lll-tis,pyramid,pacbell}!sybase!bill
Sybase, Inc., 6475 Christie Street, Emeryville, CA 94608    bill@sybase.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jbk@world.std.com (Jeffrey B Kane)
Subject: Re: Access PC 1.3 Problems with System 7.1?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 06:04:53 GMT

Mike Goodglick <mikey@nrc.com> writes:

>It doesn't seem to recognize my IBM formatted diskettes while using
>System 7.1...Do I need an update from Access PC 1.3 to something else? 
>Can I FTP to an updater?
>Anyone know of any good FTP sites with a good updater section?

>Later....


They have a version 2.0 out, but to be honest I have NO idea what, if
any improvements have been made.  Insignia never sent me any upgrade
notices (despite the fact that I have several registered copies) and
when I called their customer service line (after 2.0 was released) the
operator had no idea what the differences were.

If you find out, please post it.
       Jeffrey
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.programmer
From: news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System)
Subject: Printer Driver Source
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Organization: SMIS, Massey University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 03:20:50 GMT

Could some kind person point me in the right direction to find source of
any Mac printer driver?  I'm asking this on behalf of someone who's trying
to write one for a Lisa, and wants some sample code.

Thanks in advance.

--
Phil Etheridge               P.Etheridge@massey.ac.nz
Macintosh Consultant         Phone: +64+6-356-9099 x8689
SMIS, Massey University      Fax:   +64+6-350-5611
Palmerston North, NZ         40*23'S 175*37'E,    GMT+13
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: sire@csc.albany.edu (Daniel T. Smith)
Subject: Mac Plus Memory
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:57:42


I have just purchased 4Mb for my Mac+.  The finder only recognizes 2Mb
only.  I this something that is inherent to the plus or what?  I seem
to remember something about this being an architectural design.  What
is the reason for this and/or is there any way around it?  I only use
the Plus to run Word (it has no hard drive), so my idea is to use the
extra memory as a ram-disk and load the system & Word into it.  I have
successfully created a ram-disk of abt. 1Mb and loaded the system into
it, but I am still clueless as to why I cannot access the rest.  

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance...

Dan Smith
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: EDIAS@UCSVAX (EMILIANO A DIAS)
Subject: Invisible Hard Drive Partitions
Organization: UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS - AMHERST
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:20:32 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Does anyone know of a method, init or program that allows one
to hide a hard drive partition while still allowing it to be mounted?

I've created a partition for the VM Storage file but I don't 
want it to be visible on the Finder's desktop.

    Thanks in advance...			Tony Dias

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Simon_Kok@mindlink.bc.ca (Simon Kok)
Subject: Re: HP PaintJet
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:30:52 GMT

"... exactly what type of cabling best connects the HP PaintJet
to a Mac? I realize a centronix connector at the printer end..." - C.H.

Hi there Chris.  Hewlett Packard released two versions of the PaintJet
printer - a serial and parallel port version.  There are some PaintJet
printer drivers available from Hewlett Packard for the Macintosh!
You should contact your local authorized Hewlett Packard dealer for these
printer drivers.

If you had the serial version of the HP PaintJet printer, you would have
no problems connecting the PJ printer directly to your Macintosh by just
using a Macintosh serial printer cable (DIN-8 to ImageWriter I type) and
using the HP PJ drivers which sends its data at 9600 baud.

As for the cabling to connect your Macintosh to the HP PaintJet via
parallel (Centronics) port, you will need a special MODIFIED serial to
parallel converter cable to communicate at 9600 baud.

Believe it or not this cable does exist!   =) =) =)

"GDT PowerPrint is a software and cable combination which enables your
Macintosh computer to print to over 1000 dot matrix, inkjet, or laser
printers. PowerPrint gives you LaserWriter-like control of your
printer along with a flexible and friendly user interface, built-in
spooling capability, enhanced greyscale patterns, smart labels and forms
printing, and better communication options." <-- Sound like a brochure?

You will need the cable from this package (the s-p cable is not sold
separately - unfortunately) and have it modified to transmit data at 9600
baud instead of 57600 baud.  This modification can be done quite simply.
After this modification, you can still use the cable with the
printer drivers from PowerPrint but you will need the serial tool from
the Communications ToolBox and will only be able to communicate at 9600
instead of the fast and funky 57600 baud.

If you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to contact me and I
will do my best to help you.  My direct phone line is 604.299.3379.

Cheers!

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From: fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu (Faisal Nameer Jawdat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: INTERUPTS
Date: 6 Nov 92 09:25:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.YeygP7e00WB91M1Lpk
Organization: Sophomore, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

if you press the interrupt key on a ci it gives you this modal dialog
box with a command line unless you have a debugger
does anyone have a list of what you can type in this box to do various
things, and if so could you mail them to me

anything helps

thanks

faisal
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: timm@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Tim Menzies)
Subject: How does Dark Side "Kitten" work?
Reply-To: timm@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Tim Menzies)
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 06:28:14 GMT

Puzzled about how Dark Side "Kitten" works. I thought it was simple random
number generator for the wool and another one for the kitten that
random selects one of N behaviours (sit, run, catch...). BUT, the
Kitten module is the SECOND LARGEST of all the Dark Side modules. So,
is it (shudder) replaying a set of canned scenarios???

Can't sleep at night. Someone tell me soon. Alternatively, can someone
give me Tom Dowdy's email (author of Kitten)??

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From: jdunning@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (John Alan Dunning)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Function keys on a Mac 170 portable
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:20:42 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <16889A2A4.M16302@mwvm.mitre.org> M16302@mwvm.mitre.org writes:
>Anybody know how to emulate function keys with a Mac 170 portable.  Somebody
>said connect an extrnal keybord, use a macro program to emulate F1 with say
>shft +1, then disconnect external Keyboard.  Will this work?

It should.  I'm assuming you want to use the function keys in a macro
program.  If you use QuicKeys (and why would you use anything else?)
you don't have to hook up an extended keyboard directly to the
PowerBook.  It's easiest just to run QuicKeys on a desktop Mac, make
key aliases for all the extended keyboard's keys you want, save them
to a new key set, copy that key set to your PowerBook and open
QuicKeys.  From there you can copy the aliases and use them in
whatever macros you want.  Besides the function keys, it's also useful
to make aliases of the page up/down and home/end keys.  That way, if a
program makes use of these keys, you can just use map them to some
other key combination instead of using the corresponding Mousies,
which tend to be a lot slower (Mousies are builtin sequences in
QuicKeys which emulate a mouse clicking on the scrollbar to scroll the
window up and down).  CE Software should really make it possible in
QuicKeys to insert any keystroke from any keyboard into a macro,
without requiring you to have that keyboard.


John
From: eoliver@acc.haverford.edu (Erik Oliver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: PD/Shareware way to mount or read DOS floppies?
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:19:58 GMT
Organization: Haverford College
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A727E0A95F02B340@csserver.cs.haverford.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 12 Nov 92 10:21:29 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12

In article <1992Nov12.001738.22064@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> SUMMERALL  ELMINA
LANIER, summeral@ucsu.Colorado.EDU writes:
>The superdrive doesn't seem so super considering it seems that you must
>purchase additional software like DOS Mounter in order to read DOS disks.
>
>Is there any cheap way to do this?
>
>Thanks,

Yep, in the info-mac archives, ftp sumex-aim.stanford.edu, login
anonymous, password username@hostname, cd /info-mac.  Inside either the
ex, or cp, directories (I forget which) is a shareware dos mounter.

Erik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jay Elmore)
Subject: Language scripts and 7.1
Summary: I'm confused; that's as simple as it gets!
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: WorldScript, System 7.1, Hebrew
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 11:11:29 GMT


Okay, I decided to see how this new "world-ready" System 7.1 would work. I
downloaded the Install 1 disk for Hebrew-language System 7.0.1 and copied
the fonts, script, and keyboard layout into my System Folder. When I
restared, I got the keyboard menu, but the last two key layouts (displayed
in a Hebrew-language font, which I can't read) were greyed out. When I
checked the Numbers and Time & Date control panels; only the U.S. options
were immediately available.

Did I miss sonething? Is there some extension (similar to KanjiTalk) that
Hebrew System 7 needs to function properly? Should I bother getting the
System 7.1 Japanese language (which is what I _really_ want anyway) or is
it possible for me to install 7.1 over my Japanese 6.0.7 disk and expect
it to work? (I have a copy of GomTalk, but I haven't installed it...I want
to know about KanjiTalk 7 and the TrueType kanji fonts Japanese 7.1 is
supposed to have!)

Someone posted something about a WorldScript I and II extension not being
provided. Did I not get a complete, WorldScript capable System 7.1?

Help!

Jay (=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: johnsd2@jec321.its.rpi.edu.its1 (Daniel Norman Johnson)
Subject: Re: System sound file names
Reply-To: johnsd2@jec321.its.rpi.edu.its1
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:18:37 GMT

In article 1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu, jnsims01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu () writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.163015.12660@news.media.mit.edu>, stone@media.mit.edu 
>  (Steve Librande) writes:
>> Could someone send me a list of all the valid system sound filenames.
>> I know of a few: 'connect' 'filedone' 'termbell', but I'm sure there
>> must be several more.  For instance, can you name a sound 'eject' and
>> have it play everytime a disk is ejected?
>> 
>> Please e-mail replies, since I'm not a regular reader of this group.
>
>Please also post this information - I've never heard of such a thing and this
>would be very handy to know!!
>

There isn't any function like that. Those sounds are used by ZTerm,
and as far as I know no other program. There system does NOT provide
any function like that. You can get it with the SoundMaster extension,
if you like. Check an ftp site near you.

The closest thing I know of in the system is that you can have a startup
sound by putting a sound in the "startup items" folder.

---
			- Dan Johnson
And God said "Jeeze, this is dull"... and it *WAS* dull. Genesis 0:0

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You'll never know whose they are.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete Resnick)
Subject: Re: TextEdit, International Scripts and others....
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:07:09 GMT

9999sc01@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (Alexandre Khalil) writes:

>  I have been told that the reason why regular wordprocessors fail to pass 
>the international scripts tests is that they bypass TextEdit to handle
>text management more efficiently:

Actually, it is not TextEdit that is important, but the Script
Manager. TextEdit calls the Script Manager, which is why it works with
international scripts. Word processors can also call the Script
Manager routines, but most don't.

>  - Is there a wordprocessor that is more elaborate than TeachText ( font 
>and styles handling, formatting ) but still uses TextEdit ?

I seem to remember that Nisus might call the Script Manager routines,
but I am not absolutely positive. My guess would be that more and more
word processors will in the future (boy, I hope MacWrite Pro does when
it comes out given how long it is taking!).

pr
-- 
Pete Resnick             (...so what is a mojo, and why would one be rising?)
Graduate assistant - Philosophy Department, Gregory Hall, UIUC
System manager - Cognitive Science Group, Beckman Institute, UIUC
Internet: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu
From: howarth@med.uth.tmc.edu (Jack W. Howarth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: I have 7.1, so what now????
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:34:13 GMT


  I just installed System 7.1 on my SE/30 after removing MODE32 (sigh). I was
surprised to find that the complete 7.1 package didn't contain WorldScript
I and II extensions (although it did have At Ease).
  What I want to know now is what is the likely release dates for...
         QuickDraw GX
         AppleScript
         New Print Architecture
         MODE32 system enabler
Also, does anyone have any idea what each of these will cost? I hope they'll
all be unbundled from 7.1 as I am tired of paying for 7.x releases (2 so far).
                   Jack

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From: werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: PowerBook Tuner 1.0---what is it?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Date: 9 Nov 1992 13:55:57 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: dimebox.cs.utexas.edu

 jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jay Elmore) writes:

> While browsing through some FTP site (I think it was the RASCAL mirror
> at WUARCHIVE.WUSTL.EDU) I found something called "Powerbook Tuner 1.0"
> What is it?

	wasn't there a README file with it?  (there was even a later warning
	text file I had added to the archives...)

	basically, it is the alfa version of a fix for a PowerBook serial
	port problem;  supposedly os 7.1 has the fix applied, but when I
	asked if/when when the release version can be expected (for users
	who do not plan to upgrade to os 7.1) I was told "soon"...
	but I'll believe it when I see it.

	It was also communicated to me from "people who should know"
	that this particular alfa-version has a problem which can eat
	(into) your file system ...

	In a way, the situation calls for a public taring and feathering
	of Apple for not bringing out bug-fixes in a timely fashion...
	(in particular as this hurts third party modem manufacturers like
	Global Village, etc)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: delphi@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Andrew J. Kass)
Subject: Re: After Dark/7.1 conflict?
Organization: M.I.T. Media Laboratory
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:54:05 GMT

There is a simple solution to your problem. AfterDark 2.0v is incompatible with 7.1 when used with THE NEW MACS, which were released in Oct, including the IIvx. 2.0v IS compatible with 7.1 when used with any previous Mac. Look for the upgrade to 2.0w which will be coming soon to fix the problem. Only the NEW macs need this upgrade...

Andrew Kass
delphi@media-lab.media.mit.edu
From: hue@pro-freedom.cts.com (Scott Hudziak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Is there a way to change Icon/Window outline color?
Date: 11 Nov 92 08:55:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Nov11.015507.3465
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


   I was just asked by a colleague of mine if there was a way
to change the color of the outline that appears whenever you
move a window or an icon around on the desktop.
 
___I thought that the poutline wsa the inverse of the destop color at
whatever point. The only way one could create an invisible poutline is by
creating a 50% saturation of gray (tahus th einvers would also be 50%
gray.) So I don't think there is a -color- of the outlines at all.
 
scott 
hue@profreedom.cts.com

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: rmf@chopin.cs.columbia.edu (Robert M. Fuhrer)
Subject: Re: HUGE disks and minimum file size
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Columbia Univ.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:32:02 GMT

I experienced this problem with my Seagate Wren V (315Mb) drive. When I
re-partitioned the drive to a 120M and a 195M volume, I regained about 17Mbytes
of space! [On the other hand, I have lots of program source lying around, which
means many small files, so fragmentation was fairly high.]

I also think that the user should have some control over the min allocation
clump size when partitioning. It's crazy to *have* to break a nice big drive
into a whole bunch of small ones just to avoid wasting *large* amounts of
space. As a better, long-range solution, a more reasonable allocation policy is
in order. [Apple, are you listening?]

Now, for a follow-up:

After the re-partitioning, I soon had a machine crash which damaged the boot
partition. The system booted to a floppy-question-mark icon (no bootable
volumne), and after booting from a floppy, said the drive was unreadable.

I have never before in 5 years of running this Mac II, 1 and 1/2 years of it
with this drive, experienced a crash which took the hard drive with it.

Now, my question is this: is a partitioned drive on a Mac more susceptible to
being damaged than a non-partitioned one? [I can think of several reasons why
this might be the case, but I'm looking for empirical answers, not theoretical
ones.]

[Note: I'm fairly confident the drive medium itself is ok; I gave it the old
read/write every sector test before partitioning.]
--

-- Bob
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