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From: mbrousse@cs.ulowell.edu (Marc Brousseau)
Subject: Re: Paradox SE vs Full 4.0?
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:48:54 GMT

In article <1gj5hbINNj0s@grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr> jcberger@grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr (Jean-Claude Berger) writes:
>In article <92348.135246RROXBY@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> RROXBY@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Robert Roxby) writes:
>>What does the SE version of Paradox omit?  Thank you.  Robert
>
>Pdox SE is PDOX 3.x without LAN capabilities, the Data Entry Kit
>and *without a decent documentation*.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Jean-Claude Berger, JCBerger Developpement Formation (Free Lance Consultant)
> (+33) 78.24.75.78     E-Mail : jcberger@grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr - BIX, jcberger

But, it is cheaper, and if you already have Paradox 3.0 or 3.5 it is
 a cost effective solution to maintaining independent databases.
From: jvs@lester.appstate.edu (John V. Scalco)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: what are some WINDOWS3.x dbases????
Date: 11 Dec 1992 17:00:36 -0500
Organization: Appalachian State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: lester.appstate.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

	hi folks,

	I'm in need of a list of the current windows d-base type
	programs available for purchase..

	I'll be happy to post the summary "soon", if I get a lot
	of chit-chat from it.

	sincerely  - john v. scalco..



Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: ramirez@IASTATE.EDU (Richard G Ramirez)
Subject: Re: SQL in MICROSOFT ACCESS
Reply-To: ramirez@IASTATE.EDU (Richard G Ramirez)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:12:14 GMT

Access supports only SQL DML, meaning SELECT,
UPDATE, DELETE, and INSERT.  Tables cannot be
created using either SQL nor Basic, according to
the manual.  

There is also no provision for views although dynasets
(queries) may be considered similar.  I have to check
on that.

GRANT is also not supported.


Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: csc4213@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Uncle Remus)
Subject: Re: Foxpro 2.0 on a network 
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:59:11 GMT

allenjm@eng.auburn.edu (John M. Allen) writes:

>I have a question regarding running FoxPro 2.0 on a Novell Network.  I was 
>recently informed by a friend that FoxPro requires a dedicated DBMS server.

After having developed a commercially released multiuser foxpro 2.0 
product, this is news to me. The only question would have to be .tmp 
files. They reside locally on workstations while funning the foxpro
envirmonment. However, they are not present in compiled foxpro appliaction.

Its quite nice on a network and could  never be described as slow.


Josh Guttman


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Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: dant@microsoft.com (Dan Tyack)
Subject: Re: Does ODBC Catalog Functions support "index" info. retrieval?
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:49:43 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

Try SQLStatistics(), which  returns index and o misc info.
In article <1992Dec10.190115.15985@infonode.ingr.com> barakam@infonode.ingr.com (Sreedhar Barakam) writes:
>I have only a document that describes ODBC's functionality.  Under
>Catalog functions I do not see any function that would return information
>about any exisiting indexes for a table.  Did I miss something?
>
>Sreedhar Barakam
From: Alfred_Spector@transarc.com
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: HPTS Call For Papers
Date: 16 Dec 92 12:50:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: transarc.0f=v_pU00k00514tEB
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA



                    CALL FOR PARTICIPATION
                Fifth International Workshop On
          High Performance Transaction Systems (HPTS)
                   Asilomar Conference Center
                   Pacific Grove, California
                     September 26-29, 1993

The HPTS Workshop brings together leading architects, developers,
practitioners, and researchers working on transaction systems.  Topics
of interest include: TP monitors, transaction models, advanced or very
large scale transaction applications, and transactional aspects of
data communications, databases, system architecture, performance,
security, fault-tolerance, programming interfaces, and
interoperability.

The workshop will include discussion sessions based on position papers
and a few presentations of full papers.  A proceedings will be
published.

Each participant must submit either a position paper or an abstract of
a full paper on a topic of interest to the workshop.  The submission
should include the author's affiliation and areas of responsibility or
research.

A position paper may be a viewpoint on a controversial topic or a
summary of lessons learned from recent research or practical
experience.  An abstract of a full paper may be a description of a new
mechanism or architecture, a product or prototype, and application, or
results of work-in-progress.  Proposals for panel discussions or
presentations are also welcome.  Special consideration will be given
to submissions on transaction system topics not commonly covered in
other technical forums.

Attendance is limited to about 60 participants.  Participants will be
invited based on their submissions.  Abstracts and position papaers
should be at most five pages.  Submission should be sent to Diana
Durbin, Digital, 800 W. El Camino Real, Mountain View, CA 94040. ASCII
submissions may be sent to Diana@mtview.enet.dec.com.

General Chair:                         Program Chair:

  Alfred Spector                         Jim Gray
  Transarc Corporation                   Digital Equipment Corporation
  707 Grant Street                       455 Market Street
  Pittsburgh, PA  15219                  San Francisco, CA  94105

Program Committee:

  F. Bamberger (Citicorp)                B. Lindsay (IBM)
  G. Copeland (IBM)                      J. Lyon (Tandem)
  S. Finkelstein (Tandem)                A. Reuter (Stuttgart)
  H. Garcia-Molina (Stanford)            B. Taylor (Digital)
  K. Hospers (Independence Technologies)

IMPORTANT DATES

     Submission of Manuscripts:               April 5, 1993

     Notification of Acceptance:              June 7, 1993

     Submission of Camera-Ready Copy:         August 20, 1993
Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: dshaker@qualix.com (Doug Shaker)
Subject: Accounting using an RDBMS
Reply-To: dshaker@qualix.com
Organization: QUALiX Group, Inc.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:15:17 GMT

I have been calling up people using accounting systems
based on RDBMSs and almost all of them _despise_ the
system they are using.  Does anyone have a positive
experience to report?  If so, what database and what
accounting system?  Our environment is based on
Suns and Informix.  Speed, flexibility and ease of integration
with other systems are important.

Failing that, does anyone know of a consultant in 
Northern California who knows the faults and foibles of
the various flawed systems that are available? [So I will
know how to distinguish the Devil from the Deep Blue Sea]

Email responses, please

-Doug Shaker, dshaker@qualix.com or ...uunet!qualix!dshaker

Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: ternent@oima2.oim.uiuc.edu (John Ternent)
Subject: Re: Help in Rbase!
Summary: Help in Rbase
Organization: Office for Information Management, University of Illinois
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:10:37 GMT
Keywords: Rbase, Database

In article <7636@stan.xx.swin.oz.au> skt@stan.xx.swin.oz.au (TANG S) writes:

>I am a new user of Rbase.  I have a simple problem here with Rbase.  I hope 
>someone out there who are familiar with Rbase can help me.  I am using Rbase 3.1.
>I want to check if a variable is already in a column of a specified table. 
>I have tried several ways, but did not work.  The following are some of the 
>IF statements I have tried.


>(1)
>IF itemid EXISTS (SELECT EE# FROM LTrans WHERE EE# = .itemid) THEN
>  ...
>ELSE
>  ...
>ENDIF



>(2)
>IF itemid IN (SELECT EE# FROM LTrans WHERE EE# = .itemid) THEN
>  ...
>ELSE
> ...
>ENDIF


>(3)
>IF (SELECT EE# FROM LTrans WHERE EE# = .itemid) IS NOT NULL  THEN
>...
>ELSE
>...
>ENDIF


>Thanks in advance.  Please email to me.



I'm not sure this is exactly what you want, but when I try to do this kind
of validation, I use the following syntax:

SET VAR vTest = EE# IN LTrans WHERE EE# = .itemid
IF vTest IS NULL THEN
...
ELSE 
...
ENDIF

Hope this helps!

John Ternent
j-ternent@uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.databases,comp.ai
From: orville%weyrich@uunet.uu.net (Orville R. Weyrich)
Subject: Looking for a good speaker for conference
Reply-To: uunet.uu.net!weyrich!orville
Organization: Weyrich Computer Consulting
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 15:51:04 GMT

I am on the program committee for the 2nd Annual Arizona Business and 
Computer Exhibition which is presented jointly with the 34th Annual
Association for Systems Management Southwest Systems Conference
[March 15-16, Phoenix, AZ].

The program this year is shaping up to have a lot of very good 
people in the areas of Real-Time and Object-Oriented Systems Modeling,
and we would like to balance it with one or a couple presentations
on object-oriented databases and/or knowledge representation.

I would really like to find a speaker to present a technical talk 
on object-oriented databases and/or knowledge representation
but I am not quite sure where to begin. The ideal speaker will have
name-recognition and present a good talk to technically competent
computer experts that aren't experts in the specific topic being
presented.

So, does anyone know of any good speakers/topics that you have heard
that I might try to contact?

Note: we aren't looking for a sales presentation -- we are looking for a
technical presentation that would enhance our conference. If the speaker
[or anyone else] is interested in a vendor booth, that can be arranged :-).

Any leads (or offers) would be most welcome,

Thanks,

orville

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Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: messina@netcom.com (Tony Porczyk)
Subject: Re: MICROSOFT ACCESS vs FOXPRO
Organization: Messina Software
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:47:55 GMT

thomasd@tps.COM (Thomas W. Day) writes:

>No they're not.  You can get a position paper from Microsoft's Customer 
>Service office.  It's 3 pages long and defines the proposed market for both 
>programs.  Your assumption about the targeted markets is pretty close to 
>what Microsoft claims: Access - end user, Foxpro 2.5 - developer.

But that collides slightly with the fact that Microsoft is releasing
a distribution kit for Access at the end of January.

t.
Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: clinton@acs.ucalgary.ca (Tim Clinton)
Subject: Advanced Revelation Information Request
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 18:24:48 GMT
Distribution: comp.databases
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

I'm looking for sources of information, mailing lists, code examples,
reviews etc. of Advanced Revelation.

Thanks. I'll post a summary of e-mail responses.

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	  Administrator - Alberta Section / CITT "CallBoard"
      2500 University Drive, Calgary, AB T2N 1N4 (403) 220-4905
Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: lindsey@tincup.enet.dec.com (Randy Lindsey)
Subject: Re: MICROSOFT ACCESS vs FOXPRO
Organization: Colorado Software Solutions, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:07:35 GMT


In article <1992Dec12.004240.23761@netcom.com>, messina@netcom.com (Tony Porczyk) writes...
>jcberger@grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr (Jean-Claude Berger) writes:
> 
>>Does anybody knows what will be the Microsoft policy about
>>Access vs. FoxPro (for Win). Is Access an end user product and Fox a
>>developper oriented one ? Are they aimed at the same market ?

Remember that Microsoft just recently purchased Fox, so Access was well
underway in development by that time.  I expect they're still a little
confused about the relative positioning of the products.

I would certainly *hope* they'll be merging them somewhat, such as supporting
the same file structures etc.

Randy Lindsey
Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: ummalik@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Ijaz Rashid Malik)
Subject: Paradox 4: Problem with PushButton and ShowDialog
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 17:39:42 GMT


Hi,
According to PAL programmer's guide, the VarName in a PushButton should
be assigned the value represented by VALUE. But its not happening that way.
Consider... (I am listing only the lines which I need to)
            [...]
            OK
            Value "Proceed"
            Tag "Yes"
            To ButtonValue

            [...]
            CANCEL
            Value "Cancel"
            Tag "No"
            To ButtonValue

After the EndDialog, the ButtonValue will have the value *ONLY* if the
OK was selected and is null if CANCEL button was pushed. Why ButtonValue 
does not get assigned when CANCEL is pushed? According to manuals it should
be! Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.
Malik
ummalik@ccu.umanitoba.ca
             

Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: D.M.Todd@massey.ac.nz (D.M. Todd)
Subject: Re: Advanced Revelation information request
Summary: Flexibility and ease of use of Advanced Revelation
Keywords: Revelation
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 20:01:09 GMT

The flexibility of Advanced Revelation is excellent and there are
some fine development tools.  Ease of use (in terms of learning to
use all this power) is not so good.  Overall, I'm a very satisfied
user, because I know that sooner or later, I can get it do pretty
much what I want.

David M. Todd, Dept of Psychology, University of Massachusetts
Visiting the Dept. of Psychology, Massey University, New Zealand
Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: wayne@netcom.com (wayne t. watson)
Subject: Any DB FAQ or DB Reviews?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:14:21 GMT

Hi, is there a FAQ for this new group?

Anyone know of a reasonably comprehensive review of db products?
For example, PC Magazine devoted a whole issue to scientific and
engineering packages back a few years ago.  Does something like this
exist for the DB world?
-- 
Wayne T. Watson   wayne@netcom.com (415) 969-4233
Mountain View, CA
From: John_Carson@mindlink.bc.ca (John Carson)
Subject: Clipper...Set Unique On/Off
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:05:07 GMT

It has come to my attention on a client program that SET UNIQUE ON/OFF can be
the start of corrupted index files. I assume that if you SET UNIQUE once with
the database you must all the time. If at some location in the .PRG'S it
isn't....trouble begins. I have not searched this out yet but will be
checking into it today.

Has anyone else had this problem?

What pseudo code do you suggest do to solve duplicate records without using
this SET UNIQUE ON/OFF.

John

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From: tcscs!zeta@src.honeywell.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Paradox questions, ok to ask here?
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 22:53:02 CST
Reply-To: zeta%tcscs@src.honeywell.com
Organization: TCS Consulting Services


I was wondering if it would be ok to ask some questions about Paradox (3.5)
in this newsgroup.  Specifically problems encountered during creation of 
data entry and report sections of a database.

If this is not the correct group, could someone please point me to the right
direction?

Thanks



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From: tcscs!barbara@src.honeywell.com (Barbara Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Help with Paradox 3.5 reports needed
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 23:29:58 CST
Reply-To: barbara%tcscs@src.honeywell.com
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

I've created a data entry form through Paradox 3.5. Is there a way to copy 
it to the Reports section rather than recreate it all over? The form is
3 screens long and includes boxes of info and all screens are full!

Email response is preferred.

Thanks in advance for any help or comments.

Barbara
From: steve.silverwood@filebank.cts.com (Steve Silverwood)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Clipper help needed
Date: 17 Dec 92 12:43:00 GMT
Reply-To: steve.silverwood@filebank.cts.com (Steve Silverwood)
Organization: The File Bank BBS - Fallbrook, CA  619-728-4318


 >Newsgroups: comp.databases
 >From: wiwiriya@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Wirta Wiriyan)
 >Subject: Clipper help needed
 >Message-ID: <1992Dec2.082330.8201@newstand.syr.edu>
 >Date: Wed, 2 Dec 92 08:23:28 EST
 >
 >
 >Hi everybody,
 >
 >My brother desperately needs help on an error he found (consistently) while
 >working with Clipper. Now that I'm writing this article, it occurs to me
 >that I forgot to ask him the version of his Clipper. I think it's probably
 >5.01a.
 >
 >Anyway, the error is 'internal error 19'. Any idea what caused it? how to
 >remove it? etc.
 >
 >Thanx in advance.
 >
 >
 >Wirta Wiriyan
 >wiwiriya@mailbox.syr.edu
 >wiwiriya@rodan.acs.syr.edu

Wirta:

INTERNAL ERROR 19 NTX FILE CORRUPTED

This occurs when an index buffer is found to be corrupted when
attempting to update an index page and the index is non-UNIQUE.


Hope that helps.

//Steve//

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Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: veit@Unify.com (Veit Irtenkauf)
Subject: Re: MICROSOFT ACCESS
Organization: Unify Corporation (Sacramento)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 01:36:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec9.102211.144@turtle.fisher.com>, ferris@turtle.fisher.com writes:
> In article <6515.2b25b1fe@hayes.com>, fgreene@hayes.com writes:
> > On the principle that anytime I can buy a DBMS for $99.00 it is a bargain,
> > I recently ordered Microsoft's new ACCESS system.  Has anyone had any
> > experience with it as of yet?  How does it compare with Foxpro, Paradox,
> > dBASE, et al?
> > 
> I have Access. I have not used it extensively yet, but it is very impressive.
> The underlying programming language is a variant of Visual Basic called
> Access Basic. It appears to give you everything you need to do complex
> database applications _BUT_ it is totally incompatible/unrelated/hostile
> to any xBASE code you are used to.

Does it support SQL as your database access language, or does it come
with its own proprietary language?

-- Veit


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Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: lmw@dptspd.sat.datapoint.com (Larry White)
Subject: Paradox 4.0 Workspace Question
Organization: Datapoint Corporation, San Antonio, TX
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:18:13 GMT

I am new to the world of Paradox and have been having trouble when allowing the 
user to interact with the workspace.  I am attempting to write a custom 
application where I begin by using the PAINTCANVAS command to make the sign-on
screen the way I want it.  However, as soon as I do a EDIT table followed by
a WAIT TABLE, the entire workspace area blasts the entire canvas area.  I was
hoping that I could design a FORM that could be sized and superimposed 
somewhere on my previously painted canvas area.  It seems that my call to
WAIT TABLE is where my problem might be.  I was really hoping to take 
advantage of Paradox's ability to EDIT the fields within a record instead
of having to "Re-invent the wheel" and manage it all on my own.  Any 
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

...Larry
From: robert.laszko@filebank.cts.com (Robert Laszko) 
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Re: Clipper Uploads
Date: 18 Dec 92 06:50:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The File Bank BBS - Fallbrook, CA  619-728-4318
Reply-To: robert.laszko@filebank.cts.com (Robert Laszko) 

>>Are these files available on any ftp site?

>Good question...I'd like to know also.

Not that I'm aware of, Tanin. You might find them in the NANFORUM forum 
on CompuServe, though. 

Bob
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From: ntruelove@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (STEP OUT OF THE CAR PLEASE)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Re: ParadoxSE
Keywords: ParadoxSE is possessed
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:59:00 GMT
Organization: University of Oklahoma - University Computing Services
Originator: usenet@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I have experienced problems with ParadoxSE creating indexes spontaneously
and with tables corrupting for no apparent reason.  I used to have a cash
flow problem and couldn't afford a runtime license, so I would have my
customers purchase SE as and re-create runtime libraries with it.  When I
made the switch to Paradox35-runtime, the *mysterious* problems stopped.

Naren
From: steve.silverwood@filebank.cts.com (Steve Silverwood)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Clipper running on UNIX
Date: 17 Dec 92 12:43:00 GMT
Reply-To: steve.silverwood@filebank.cts.com (Steve Silverwood)
Organization: The File Bank BBS - Fallbrook, CA  619-728-4318


 >Newsgroups: comp.databases
 >From: yk7m@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Young-Kuk Kim)
 >Subject: Clipper running on UNIX
 >Message-ID: <1992Dec3.053510.25714@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
 >Keywords: Clipper, UNIX
 >Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1992 05:35:10 GMT
 >
 >Hi, Netters
 >
 >I would like to know the availability of
 >Clipper running on UNIX (Sun WS, SCO UNIX, XENIX, ...).
 >Anyone can answer this question or give the email address of
 >the company which developed Clipper?
 >
 >I would really appreciate your help.
 >
 >-- Young-kuk Kim


Presently CA-Clipper is only available for DOS.  However, I understand
there's an outfit in Connecticut that produces a translation utility
to convert Clipper Summer '87 code over to C source so it can be
recompiled under Unix.  Not sure of the name or the company offhand,
though.  Sorry.

//Steve//

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