From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: The PROBLEM with VW today...
Date: 11 Dec 1992 21:54:05 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
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In a previous article, 01ksdavis@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Rebel without a pause.) says:
>	So, why do I believe that the VW bug is no longer sold in America?  If
>you ask me, the reason is a big conspiracy that VW themselves were involved in. 
>Hey, people attribute J.F.K.'s death to a conspiracy, so I have every right to
>attribute the bugs "death" to conspiracy, also.
>
>	Certain people lost money on the VW bug.  These people included GM,
>Ford (who had the opportunity to buy the VW Bug plant in Wolfsburg after the
>war), and various other companies, like, say, perhaps Antifreeze companies.  
>
>	All of these people didn't like losing money year after year to "That
>ugly little foreign car" that "would never amount to anything."  After about
>twenty million of them, Ralph Nader, and the EPA, the conspirators finally had
>enough to try and convince VW to stop selling the Bug here.  What we have no
>idea of is the fact that the Antifreeze companies may or may not have blatantly
>attempted to buy VW out.

i too have heard this..but...this makes no sense to me..i mean..are they also
going to say that the Antifreeze companies are buying out Porsche now that 
they are switching to water cooled? the simple fact is that Porsche has
pushed thier A/C'd motors as far as they can.  They simply CANNOT get any
more RELIABLE, EMMISSIONS passable Air cooled motors that have greater 
performance.  I think VW got smart sooner. And chose to switch.  I've heard
more than one person claim that the older VW's were the ones to have, y'know,
the ones previous to all the emmisions crud.  After that crap was tossed onto
teh poor A/C'd motor, it  had ALOT of trouble living up to the strain.  Too
much $$$$$(read, Porsche) wouldhave to be dumped inot research to make them
work under the newly imposed emmissions standards.  That is what i believe
on the antifreeze argument...

>
>	Think about what I have just said.  Why else would VW switch to
>water-cooled?  Can you say kickbacks?  Can you say sell-outs?  Maybe the

can you say, "smart"? can you say "reliability"? can you say "performance"?
can you say "the aircooled had hit the end of the road"? that is what
i believe..

>	This is another big beef of mine with VW.  Their new cars are great,
>but because of the VW Bug, they will always be equated with good cars at a
>cheap price.  Sad that many people find out differently when they get into a VW
>showroom.  Even the new Eurovan, which isn't rear-engined, or air-cooled, costs
>$20,000!  And that's before the import minivan tax!  Stupid enough is VWs
>decision to not sell the Westphalia version of that here in the U.S.

sounds like a reasonable idea from VW. You just said you wouldn't even pay
for the base model, so why would they ship over the westphalia only to have
it flop because noone will buy it?  They probably want to test the market
first.

my thoughts. 
hasta
DREW
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