HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jlueck@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jeff Lueck)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Request: Need help configuring Trumpet with SLIP8250
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:14:56 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA

As the subject says, I need some help configuring Trumpet to work with
SLIP8250  (version 10).  I've tried all kinds of things, but cannot get it to
connect to the news server.  

I've gotten SLIP to work well with both NUPOP (PC mail program) and a PC
Gopher client.  

If anyone has experience with SLIP & Trumpet, I would appreciate any help
and/or advice you could give me.  Please email me at chip-l@nwu.edu

Thanks!
From: bruceh@cv.hp.com (Bruce Hauge)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: TIN questions
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:36:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvca.1992Sep30.153639.10947
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

I have some questions about TIN. I've been using PL5 and just upgraded to PL6.

1. Where in the source code is the statement that controls the length of
   time that the following messages are displayed if an article is no
   longer available? I would like to shorten this display time.

     423  No such article in this group
     Article XXXX unavailable

2. When saving threads, is there a way to 'cat' all of the articles together
   into one file when saving them? Currently if I save a thread, it saves
   all of the articles in separate files (xxx.01, xxx.02, ...).

3. Is there a way to append new articles to existing ones when saving them?
   Currently if I save a new article and use a filename that already exists,
   it asks if I want to overwrite it. I would like to have the option of
   appending to the existing file.

Thanks for any and all help.

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From: sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Newsgroups: netcom.general,netcom.software,news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Printing From trn?
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:20:32 GMT
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ

barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
writes on news.software.readers:

)westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes:
)
)>So far so good.  But your solution leads me to my next question: how do I 
)>configure trn so that it uses csh instead of sh as the environment in which to
)>execute the piped command?
)
)did you try:
)
)setenv SHELL /bin/csh
)
)?  (This is all rather clearly documented in the man page)

Yes, I sent the same reply by mail and I tried the same thing myself.
Sigh. It didn't work!

I read through the whole manpage. Nope. No clues why. The some "echo
$PATH" and "echo $path" inside .cshrc explained what was happening.
Here is what my .cshrc looks like: (Pardon any lousy scripting  and
also please no csh flames. I know, I know csh is lousy. :)

Then I realised that *rn takes only env. variables and passes the same
to any process it spawns. So passing of csh or tcsh variables doesn't
happen.  Hence you need to manipulate PATH using env. vars *only*.

This one is after I made corrections. Previously it had oldpath as a
shell variable and was tacked on to $path.

if ( $?OLDPATH ) then
#For debugging
	echo "Path already set"
else
	setenv OLDPATH `echo $PATH | sed -e 's/\.//g'`
endif

set mypath=	(~sridhar/bin ~sridhar/scripts /etc /usr/lib )
set localpath=	(/usr/new /usr/new/X11 /usr/gnu/bin)

if ( $host == enuxhb || $host == enuxha ) then
	set harrispath= (~csgsa/bin /usr/tmp/threads)
	set path=	( $mypath $localpath $harrispath )
	setenv PATH	$PATH\:$OLDPATH
	unset mypath localpath harrispath
else
	set path=		( $mypath $localpath)
	setenv PATH	$PATH\:$OLDPATH
	unset mypath localpath
endif 

To answer any possible questions:
Setting of PATH affects rsh etc. hence it is in .cshrc.
I need to set my path explicitly bcos not every sysadmin is aware of
security concerns around . in PATH.

)--Dave

In case I messed up, corrections are appreciated! I would guess that
the problem I faced might have happened to the original poster.

Sridhar.
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: drl@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (David R. Linn)
Subject: Avoiding Add mode in xrn/xvnews
Followup-To: poster
Originator: drl@jester
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:56:58 GMT

Due to the number of newsgroups on my server, it is undesirable to
have never-subscribed groups in the .newsrc file.  For example,
one use of xrn increased my own .newsrc file from 3800 bytes to
more than 68000 bytes.  With rn, one can avoid the need to accept
or reject newsgroups on startup with the -q switch?  Is there a
mechanism to avoid the initial entry into Add Mode in xrn and xvnews?

	David
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net (Iain Lea)
Subject: Re: Reading crossposted articles in TIN.
Reply-To: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net
Organization: TIN Support
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 Beta PL7]
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 08:58:03 GMT

Dave Jones (dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com) wrote:
:
: Using 'rn' I used to get crossposted articles marked as read
: automatically whenever I read one instance.  Now with TIN, I find
: that this feature isn't there.
:
: Am I missing something or is the feature genuinely absent?

You're missing reading the BUGS section in the man page.

Iain

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From: jozef@bnr.ca (John Patoskie)
Subject: Using elm as my mailer in mxrn
Keywords: mailer mxrn elm
Reply-To: jozef@bnr.ca (John Patoskie)
Organization: Bell Northern Research
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 14:50:10 GMT


How do I assign my news reader (mxrn) to use elm as my mailer instead
of /usr/lib/sendmail -oi -t?  Solutions applied to other news readers
might apply.

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: seant@sunfish.ratsys.com (Sean D. True)
Subject: Re: NNTP readers through a telnet or modem link direct to NNTP server
Keywords: readers NNTP telnet modem dialup
Organization: Rational Systems, Inc.
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 21:46:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.141948.22500@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tbuskey@nyx.cs.du.edu (Tom Buskey) writes:

>Are there any readers that can access a NNTP server directly through a
>modem link?  I have dial-up access directly to an NNTP server & I'd
>like to be able to read news through it.  I'm using a PC btw.  
>Thanks in advance.  Tom Buskey   tbuskey@nyx.du.cs.edu

Trumpet with the NEWSX wrapper and the FTP Software PCTCP slip kernel
would work just fine. PC/TCP isn't free, though.

================================================================
Sean D. True
Rational Systems, Inc.
seant@ratsys.com -- uunet!rational!seant
From: ianm@laghey.UUCP (Ian Moran)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: CHANGES: Tin v1.1 PL6 -> PL7
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:28:43 GMT
Organization: Private Amiga Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Iain Lea (Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net) wrote:
: : 
: : Would it also be possible to reduce the number of keystrokes required
: : to select a thread, currently to select say thread 17 requires 17, Return
: : ,'*'. Trn achieves the same with a single keystroke.
: 
: If you use the auto-selection command (^K) to specify articles of interest
: tin will automatically set the threads with '*' when entering a group so 
: that you only have to press 'X' to select all 'hot' threads.

Thanks for the tip Iain, however not quite what I was getting at :-(

Regards

 Ian

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Newsgroups: netcom.general,netcom.software,news.software.readers
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Re: Printing From trn?
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:41:28 GMT

barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr) writes:

>In article <1992Oct4.213425.3041@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes:
>>How does one print an article from trn?  Where do you set the print
>>string?

>| lpr

So far so good.  But your solution leads me to my next question: how do I configure
trn so that it uses csh instead of sh as the environment in which to
execute the piped command?

Thanks!

Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: fritz@hpfcbig.sde.hp.com (Gary Fritz)
Subject: Re: Tin $MAILER?
Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:57:32 GMT

Iain Lea (Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net) wrote:
: Wait a couple of months as I am adding mail handling to tin at the moment.

Um.  I take it that means there's currently no way to use mh with Tin?
(Bummer!)

Gary
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: CHANGES: Tin v1.1 PL6 -> PL7
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 18:54:31 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.172648.8264@anl433.uucp> Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net writes:

>Ian Moran (ianm@icsbelf.co.uk) wrote:
> 
>: Would it also be possible to reduce the number of keystrokes required
>: to select a thread, currently to select say thread 17 requires 17, Return
>: ,'*'. Trn achieves the same with a single keystroke.
>
>If you use the auto-selection command (^K) to specify articles of interest
>tin will automatically set the threads with '*' when entering a group so 
>that you only have to press 'X' to select all 'hot' threads.

Often people want to be able to browse or select individual threads,
though not on an automatic basis.  I know I certainly do.

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Newsgroups: netcom.general,netcom.software,news.software.readers
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Printing From trn?
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 21:34:25 GMT

How does one print an article from trn?  Where do you set the print
string?

Thanks,
Will Estes		Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: little@carina.hks.com (Jim Littlefield)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: TIN v1.1 PL6 "new group" problem
Date: 1 Oct 1992 19:50:02 GMT
Organization: Hibbitt, Karlsson & Sorenson, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: carina.hks.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Peter Mckinney (pm860605@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu) wrote:
: 
: I'm a new user to tin and have compiled it for my personal use (I'm not a
: system administrator).  I can't seem to get tin to quit asking me if I
: want to subscribe to a new group when I start it up.  

I have seen the same problem on a SPARCstation2 running 4.1.2. tin continues to
prompt for any new group in subsequent sessions, even though I have answered
the question once.

Note that the previous version did not have this problem.

--

Jim Littlefield <little@hks.com>
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: pac@rucs.faculty.cs.runet.edu (Michael Packer)
Subject: Re: Would be a nice TIN feature
Organization: Radford University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 16:50:00 GMT

Iain Lea (Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net) wrote:
: Michael Packer (pac@rucs.faculty.cs.runet.edu) wrote:
: : 
: : ie:  saving messages in alt.sources
: : 
: : ~pac----News----alt.sources
: :          |
: :          +------rec.humor.funny
: :          |
: :          +------alt.sources.patches
: : 
: : Iain any chance of adding this feature?  
: 
: Not a lot of chance as its already there me thinks :-)
: 
: 1. 's' save command
: 2. 'a' save article (or any of the other options)
: 3. '+filename' will expand to ~/News/<Group.name>/file
:

great.... i looked thru the docs....now i have to go back and check to
see where i missed it from....

thanks
pac
 
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net (Iain Lea)
Subject: Re: CHANGES: Tin v1.1 PL6 -> PL7
Reply-To: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net
Organization: TIN Support
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 Beta PL7]
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:26:48 GMT

Ian Moran (ianm@icsbelf.co.uk) wrote:
: 
: Would it also be possible to reduce the number of keystrokes required
: to select a thread, currently to select say thread 17 requires 17, Return
: ,'*'. Trn achieves the same with a single keystroke.

If you use the auto-selection command (^K) to specify articles of interest
tin will automatically set the threads with '*' when entering a group so 
that you only have to press 'X' to select all 'hot' threads.

Iain

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From: Mark_Connell@vnet.ibm.com (Mark Connell)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 12:59:24 EST
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: TIN 1.1 PL7
Organization: Australian Programming Centre Melbourne, IBM Australia
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: Usenet 3.0
Reply-To: Mark_Connell@vnet.ibm.com

Iain,
  suggestions for inclusion in PL7 :-
1.  Ctrl-G to goto next article in a digest
2.  Add entry for setting the timeout to re-read active file on the Menu
3.  Change the re-read active file function so it does not need a key-press
      i.e. like Xrn - if I don't press a key in TIN during the timeout
           period then TIN will automatically re-read the active file after
           the set timeout.

Mark
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From: fritz@hpfcbig.sde.hp.com (Gary Fritz)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: TIN 1.1 PL6 and newsgroup choosing
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:48:05 GMT
Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.1 PL6]

Maybe I've missed something obvious, but...

Where is this "x" and "=" behavior documented?  I only found references
to crossposting, saving to mailboxes, etc., when I checked the man page.

Gary
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: davison@borland.com (Wayne Davison)
Subject: Re: trn v2.2 problem?
Organization: Borland International
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 17:36:24 GMT

iglesias@draco.acs.uci.edu (Mike Iglesias) wrote:
> One of our users is having a problem with trn v2.2:
> > I am using a macro named ama defind in my .rnmac file. As long as this
> > macro is there in my .rnmac file I cannot select any thread in any
> > newsgroup which is listed as 'a'.

When you globally redefine the 'a' key, guess what?  You press 'a' and
you run your macro, even if you are in the thread selector.  The solution
is to define the macro to only affect certain modes where it is useful.
Several examples exist in the HINTS file, distributed with trn.  If your
macro is only useful at the article-level, you would use something like
this:

a	%(%m=a?macro:a)

Multiple modes can also be handled with one macro:

a	%(%m=[anp]?macro:a)

Please refer to the manpage for complete details.
-- 
Wayne Davison
davison@borland.com
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: davison@borland.com (Wayne Davison)
Subject: Re: remap "u" key (novice) - help
Organization: Borland International
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 17:21:17 GMT

heitke@tellabs.com (Steve Heitke) wrote:
> I would like to change the maening of "u" in rn to be nothing and make "U"
> mean unsubscribe.

This is easy to do once you understand rn macros and the current mode
variable.  I've used '_' as an invalid command in the first macro.
Put these lines in your .rnmac file:

u	%(%m=[anp]?_:u)
U	%(%m=[anp]?u:U)

Trn users might be interested in the following variation -- u goes to the
"Set unread" prompt, U goes directly to the already-read thread selector,
and ^U unsubscribes, even from the thread selector:

u	%(%m=[anp]?U:u)
U	%(%m=[anp]?U+:U)
^U	%(%m=t?+u:u)
-- 
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From: schmitz@scd.hp.com (John Schmitz)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: TIN questions
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:34:15 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Santa Clara Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsceo.scd.hp.com

bruceh@cv.hp.com (Bruce Hauge) writes:
> 2. When saving threads, is there a way to 'cat' all of the articles together
>    into one file when saving them? Currently if I save a thread, it saves
>    all of the articles in separate files (xxx.01, xxx.02, ...).

I can help with this one.  You have two options:  '|' the thread
into 'cat > file' or use '=' as the first letter of the save
filename.  The '=' causes the save to be in mailbox form (which is
one file), but it has the disadvantage that the sorting order is
lost (this doesn't happen with piping).

> 3. Is there a way to append new articles to existing ones when saving them?
>    Currently if I save a new article and use a filename that already exists,
>    it asks if I want to overwrite it. I would like to have the option of
>    appending to the existing file.

Again, you could pipe and 'cat >> file'.
From: 445362@llnl.gov (Grant Johnson)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: X-based newsreader that sorts by subject?
Keywords: SORT X11
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:51:45 GMT
Reply-To: 445362@llnl.gov
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Lab

I was recently using Newswatcher on the mac and was really pleased with it sorting
by subject.  Is there a way to get xrn-6.15 or xvnews to do the same?  Or is 
there another X-based newsreader that will do it?

Thanks in advance

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From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: TIN v1.1 PL6 "new group" problem
Date: 27 Sep 92 22:20:55 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Wm. L. Ranck (ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu) wrote:
: Peter Mckinney (pm860605@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu) wrote:
: : I'm a new user to tin and have compiled it for my personal use (I'm not a
: : system administrator).  I can't seem to get tin to quit asking me if I
: : want to subscribe to a new group when I start it up.  The groups it asks
: : about are *not* new and I have repeatedly answered "no" to many of the
: : groups.  I usually just press 'q' now to quit that mode. The big problem
: 
: Is it possible that you don't have write access to your .newsrc file?

Ooops, I should have said .tin/tinrc file.  That's where TIN keeps track
of new groups for subscribing.
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: cctr127@cantsc.canterbury.ac.nz (Jason Haar)
Subject: Re: TIN v1.1 PL6 "new group" problem
Reply-To: j.haar@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 21:43:30 GMT

Iain Lea (Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net) wrote:
> Peter Mckinney (pm860605@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu) wrote:
> : 
> : I can't seem to get tin to quit asking me if I want to subscribe to a 
> : new group when I start it up.  The groups it asks about are *not* new 
> : and I have repeatedly answered "no" to many of the groups.
> 
> Sorry but I cannot reproduce your problem and therefore cannot offer a fix.
> 

I can :-)

It happens whenever a new newsgroup is created. Upon seeing the new group, Tin goes
off and asked you if you want to register to _every_ unregistered newsgroup in the
newsrc file instead of just the new one.

That happens under SunOS 4.1.1 (& 4.1.1).

Cheers

Jason Haar
Newsgroups: netcom.general,netcom.software,news.software.readers
From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
Subject: Re: Printing From trn?
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 15:30:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.234128.17631@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes:
>barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Oct4.213425.3041@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes:
>>>How does one print an article from trn?  Where do you set the print
>>>string?
>
>>| lpr
>
>So far so good.  But your solution leads me to my next question: how do I configure
>trn so that it uses csh instead of sh as the environment in which to
>execute the piped command?

did you try:

setenv SHELL /bin/csh

?  (This is all rather clearly documented in the man page)

Why do you need csh in this case, anyway?

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From: rz63633@stewball.d50.lilly.com (Gregg A. Mantock)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: DOS or OS2 News Reader
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:25:10 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Eli Lilly and Company

Does anyone no where I can find a DOS or OS2 based news
reader?  I do not need it to be the news server, just
an NNTP client.

Please either e-mail responses to mantock@lilly.com or
post here.

Thanks,
Gregg
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