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From: v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,alt.comics.lnh,rec.arts.comics
Subject: LNH : Electrocutioner's Song Advertisement
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:45:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

The Legion of Net Heroes, a band of netters joined together to battle
evil netters wherever they lurk, must deal with


                      THE ELECTROCUTIONER'S SONG
                         (a story in 12 parts)


                      brought to you by the team of:

                      v129j6ed@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
                         kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.edu
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Can the LNH fight off such villiany as Table, Chair, Manga Man, or Mr. Minister?
Will the Wild Cards of the LNH universe (Ultimate Ninja and the Z-Team) aid
    or help destroy the LNH?

The song starts off this weekend, in the DOUBLE_SIZED FIRST ISSUE of
the Halls Jordan and Cliche Dude regular series.

Also, get your collectable cards that comes with every issue.
This is a one-time offer, so you better reserve your issue, or will may
    only get a second printing.

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Jef Kolodziej                Cliche Dude (LNH)                  The KaTeFan(tm)
v129j6ed@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu           State University of New York at Buffalo
History Major                                                  51 East NorthRup
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com
Subject: Re: Sandman #43
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:00:12 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.133333.20909@bradley.bradley.edu>, pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes:
> In <ZEESHAN.92Oct4132432@occs.cs.oberlin.edu> zeeshan@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Zeeshan Hasan) writes:
>>	Of course, this brings up an interesting question.  Why is
>>Dream the only one with a realm all to himself?
> 
> What do you consider the place Despair is usually in?  Is that not
> a domain of sorts?
> 
> And how about the gardens that Destiny runs around in?  (forgive if my
> memory fails here, perhaps they aren't gardens, but you know what I mean)

Desire's domain is pretty well fleshed (sorry) out also.

Somehow, I get the feeling that Delirium's domain looks something like my
little brother's room when we lived with my parents:  Clothing destined never
to be washed, poster collage, mold growing in the coffee cups sitting in old
pizza boxes, some really spiffy art on the walls, I know there's furniture and
a bed there somewhere, but it's hard to tell which side of the room has it...

Joel
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: Characters available for Marvel 2099
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:50:48 GMT

By 2099, Franklin Richards should be just about old enough to enter 
high school.


Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: Alexx@world.std.com (Alexx S Kay)
Subject: Re: cerebus 162
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:30:43 GMT

dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:

><whaps forehead> Duh.  Oh yeah.  Jaka went to work for Pud *after* the 
>Cirinists took over, and Pud thinks something to the effect of "all the money 
>my mother saved gone in one year" during Jaka's Story.  But does Cerebus really
>sit at Dinos for 2 years?  Or did Oscar get released quickly because of failing
>health?  I'll have to borrow Melmoth again, it seems....

You people *still* don't get it?!  The Oscar in Jaka's Story and the Oscar
in Melmoth are TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.  The Melmoth one is dead, and the Jaka's
Story one has been SEEN, RECENTLY, IN PRISON!

Sorry to rant, but it's so rare that I'm proved *right* on a controversial
issue :-)

Alexx

Alexx@world.std.com
    "But... you're a duck!"
"True.  But I know DOS, and I type with all eight fingers -- which
 is more than you can say for most computer salesmen."
[Yup, Howard.  From SHE-HULK]
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From: swindley@elec.uq.oz.au (Robert Swindley)
Subject: Re: Australian comic prices
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 06:31:06 GMT

Let me be absolutely clear on the subject

there is ABSOLUTELY nothing different about the comic 
except the little price box.
I have seen this in Bundaberg and Brisbane and there is
no way it is a local printing (who'd print it for starters)

and btw I do buy from  Daily Planet comics ( a free plug
for my comic shop) which is direct sales

chengster   chengm@sun.mech.uq.oz.au
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: sherman@deimos.math.ucla.edu (William Sherman)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Love & Rockets fans ("the comics book")
Organization: The Island of Misfit Toys
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 00:57:09 GMT

In article <6051@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu> 6500topo@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Rabid Rat) writes:
>
>I thought the only 10th annyversary celebration was the little
>"Ten years of L&R" book.

Hmm, that little book includes the tour dates.

>Anyone is going to meet Los Bros during their USA tour????

I already did, and finished my "get every L&R issue signed" project
(I'm still missing one issue, argh).  

--
  Bill Sherman      S^1 `--> S^(2n+1) -->> CP^n     sherman@math.ucla.edu
     "Enter, o seeker of knowledge!" [pause]  "That's you, fathead!"
                  - Bugs Bunny
From: sasha@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (David A. Tumarkin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman dream artists (no pun intended)
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:13:20 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

What I'd really like to see is a SANDMAN done by Alan Davis.  His Death 
would be to die for.


                                        - Sasha

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From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay)
Subject: Re: Sandman #43: Transportation
Organization: International Irony League -- Death before smileys!
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:20:37 GMT

In article <JJ0isB6w165w@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca> panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden) writes:
>What I *don't* have a theory for is how they know Destruction is on 
>earth.

I don't think they know this. This little journey is to track
down Destruction's still-living friends and aquaintances. Since
Destructuion spent a lot of time on Earth, it's not surprising
that his known friends would be there.

They may well *suspect* he's on Earth. For that matter, *we* only
suspect he's on Earth. I go with the "villa-near-Orpheus's-
island" theory, but I'm not going to bet the farm on it; Gaiman's
surprised us before.
-- 
Andrew M. Solovay       "Work is the curse of the drinking class."
solovay@netcom.com			--Wilde

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From: wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (August Paul Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Siderman 2099 #2
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:08:03 GMT
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore

In article <Oct.10.00.19.28.1992.23646@dorm.rutgers.edu> jgreene@dorm.rutgers.edu (Jeffrey Greene) writes:
>First, let me just say that I thoroughly enjoyed this issue, especially the
>"Aunt May scene" promised in issue #1 - that was priceless!

Agreed.  Although when I read it this was what happened.
The guy in the book about the Aunt May projection:"Kill that one."
ME: "Fool!  Aunt May can never truly die!  MWAH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

They asked me to leave after that.

August Paul Yang thinks that having Aunt May's sould damned to Hell would
make an interesting Spider-Man story.
wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: cline@cs.scarolina.edu (Ernest Cline)
Subject: Re: Sandman and LSH discussions
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:52:07 GMT

sta2534@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:

>Why don't we create some new newsgroups and call them:
>
>rec.arts.comics.sandman
>
>and...
>
>rec.arts.comics.LSH
>
>??????????
>
>I mean, you have "rec.arts.comics.xbooks", right?

Back during the r.a.c split some consideration was given to r.a.c.mature
or r.a.c.adult, but there was disagreement over what people might consider
mature, Sandman or XXXenophile, so there wasn't enough support for such a
group.  However with the recent decision by DC to split off its mature books
into the Vertigo (or is that VERTIGO ?) grouping perhaps we might consider
r.a.c.vertigo for those comics and others that are similar. I'll grant that
Sandman would be the primary content of such a group but I think that:
a) there is enough traffic to warrant such a split
b) there is a small enough area of overlap to warrant such a split
   (by this I mean overlap in article content, not interest)

-- 
Ernest Cline	cline@cs.scarolina.edu
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From: ted4646@rigel.tamu.edu (cartoon boy)
Subject: cerebus--phonebooks
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:34:00 GMT

Did Dave Sim ever include a map of the world that cerebus lives in?

This is coming from someone who just read the first phonebook and is 
pissed that he has to buy the other five as soon as possible.  "Must
have Cerebus..."

-thomas				ted4646@sigma.tamu.edu

"Brandon, Brenda, we can only afford to send one of you to an expensive 
out of state school..."			-Jim Walsh, Beverly Hills 90210

"...so I'm afraid we're going to have to sell all of you for scientific
experiments."          -Catholic Father, Monty Pyhton's Meaning of Life


Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: nicholas@next19pg2.wam.umd.edu (Ronnie Simonds)
Subject: Re: Sandman: Darkness in Corinth (Small Spoiler)
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:24:55 GMT

In article <lsmith.718841099@exa> lsmith@exa.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie"  
Smith) writes:
> Sudden Question: Why did Delirium keep talking about getting caught in a
> flood of <that stuff in eyes> back when she was talking to Despair?  
Relevant
> or just an interesting mental image?

Eyes keep coming up in the current arc, both in the story and the art; and  
with the Corinthian showing up, it looks to continue. :)

A few immediate examples that pop to mind without eyeballing my copies:

-Despair rips out her eye with her hooked ring.

-when Destruction kisses Despair at the end of the Plague Flashback (tm),  
note that her eyes are drawn differently for the one frame.  Not that big  
a deal, buuuut...

-Next issue, when Delirium kisses the dragon at Dreams' gate, his eyes are  
ALSO drawn differently for one frame. (If Delirium kissed me, I'd probably  
have little spirals in my eyes, too....)

-Etain of the 'second look'. (Is this pronounced 'Eye-tain' by any chance?  
:)

-Delirium's comments about 'vitreous humours', ie eyeball gook.

-The Corinthian, of course, who eats eyes and has mouths in his  
eyesockets. Soon to come.

More eyes as eye see them....

-Ronnie "Eye eye Cap'n Morpheus"
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From: jsbr+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Hamilton Slye)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: ElfQuest 3
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:22:37 GMT
	<4791@disuns2.epfl.ch>
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


I can't imagine anything more beautiful than than the Hidden Years
series. The coloration is phenominal!!!!!

People who think the stories are weak really aren't reading them are you??
They are very symbolic of today's society.

To the one who couldn't remeber the human's adopted mother: it was Tyleet...

A lot more work is being put into this series and they are now coming
out on a regular schedule...so anybody who says that Richard is lazy is
just wrong!

I'm sure they will bring the letters page back when they can, but did
you ever think that it was missing in the first place because there
might be more art??

Just my $.02 worth...



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From: speterse%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (soren--Ms. Jackson if you're nasty)
Subject: Re: Image Bashing -- Why???
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:17:11 MDT
Organization: The Erland Cult

In article <1992Oct7.211408.23131@thinkage.on.ca> dat@thinkage.on.ca (David Adrien Tanguay) writes:
>lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>>Uh-huh.  What "trash" was this?  I ran a comic shop during the B&W boom
>>and I certainly don't remember Fantagraphics buying into any of the sleazy
>>fast-buck trends that were going on at the time. 

>Eros and Monster are Fantagraphic lines.

Neither of which existed during the time frame under discussion.

Again:  Just WHAT was Fantagraphics publishing during the B&W boom that
qualifies as "trash"?

--
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: dan@wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Dan Parmenter)
Subject: Re: LNH:  Enter...Kid Kirby!
Organization: /home/fsg/dan/.organization
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:14:51 GMT

The Kid Kirby thing was pretty amusing.  I normally pretty much avoid
reading any of the net in-joke stuff.  I have no idea what a Suicide
Squid is.  Since I wasn't reading r.a.c. when these things started, I
figured I'd never "get" them, but when I saw the "Kid Kirby" subject,
I had to, in my capacity as a young fogey and Kirby worshiper, check
it out.

My only suggestion stylistically is to emphasize that odd "quality"
that Kirby's *own* scripts occasionally "take on", paying particular
attention to his "odd habit" of placing quotaion marks around certain
phrases, giving everything a sort of "effete ambience" so to speak.
AND REALIISTICALLY SPEAKING, WOULD A KIRBY CHARACTER, EVEN IN ASCII,
SPEAK IN ANYTHING LESS THAN "ALL CAPS"?  AND WHO ARE THE "NEW DEITIES"
THAT MANKIND OF THE FUTURE WILL WORSHIP?  I MUST ASK THESE "PROFOUND"
QUESTIONS.  AND WHO SHALL LOVE...THE MONSTER, THE "OUTCAST FROM
SOCIETY" THE...

You get the idea.

Oh yeah, that special way that Kirby draws space, with all the dots?
My friends and I always called them "cosmic dots", but I'm told that
industry insiders refer to them as Kirby Crackle.  

Oh yeah, and serious Kirby enthusiasts should desperately seek out the
second issue of ARGOSSY magazine from a few years back which features
a gorgeous Kirby story totally unlike any I've ever seen.  Kirby went
into Eisner/Pekar mode with this incredible autobiographical story of
life as the child of immigrants in 1920s New York city.  The story is
shot from Kirby's pencils, and if you were disappointed by Kirby's
latter-day output on books like Super Powers (reduced to working on a
third rate Secret Wars rip-off), then this story will remind you of
just how remarkable he can be.  

I sure hope you're sincere about this Kirby thing, what with all the
Kirby-bashing on the net.  

- Dan
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From: jlmiller@hamp.hampshire.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: ElfQuest 3
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:02:47 GMT
Organization: Hampshire College

I have to agree with Pat on this one...I though EQ Hidden Years 3 was the best
EQ comic I've read since issue 20 back in '84 (jeeze- has it been that long?).
It moved me, and certainly went a long way towards developing Tyleet's
character, long overdue, IMHO. Also, it gave us a major look into the lives of
the Wolfriders during the time Leetah wa absent.
Anyway, I did like it a lot more than New Blood, which (being an anthology
book) I found a little inconsistant.
About the letters pages...I think the reason they've been gone is because you
can only print so many pages (believe me, I know from where I speak) and these
stories have been longer than usual.

All IMHO, o'course.

shade,
jonathan.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: LNH:  Enter...Kid Kirby!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:38:38 GMT

Well, for the diehard Kirby fans out there, his creation from Cap #201, the 
Night People, is back (not, is refers to 'his creation', and is therefore 
correct - Grammar Lad).  Dunphy enters this cavern and I think, "What's that 
weird Kirbyoid thing doing stuck in the middle of a shantytown underground?"  
Then the ID of the inhabitants is revealed and I say, "Oooohhh.  Hokay."
     Dave Van Domelen, getting really sick of the 6-page, nonremovable Dragon 
Quest ads in Marvel titles this week
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  )
Subject: Re: John Ostrander
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:08:26 GMT

In article <BvtBvq.Gqs@news.udel.edu> rschwabe@brahms.udel.edu (Robert Josep Schwabe) writes:
>I am just writing in to ask a simple question, why does it seem that a 
>great deal of projects that John Ostrander writes seem to get canceled.  First
>Manhunter, then Firestorm, Suicide Squad,and now I have heard that he is being
>removed from Hawkworld (this is a rumor).  Personally I like Ostrander's 
>writing the best, he is one of the few people who really puts some grittyness
>into comics.  He really likes to show how things really are.  
>	I have heard that he will start writing Magnus soon, so I will 

Personally, I think that Hawkworld is one of the most under-rated titles
out there right now. It is beyond me why it doesn't pick up. I don't
think Ostrander has been booted off Hawkman, though. There is a new
Hawkman series due next year written by Ostrander. I have a funny
feeling that HawkWoman won't be in it though.

As for Magnus, I'm looking forward to that. The series has been
meandering for a whole now and Ostrander's new storyline looks like it
could be interesting. I guess I'll have to keep collecting it and see.

As for why his series tend to die, maybe he doesn't work with enough
"hot" artists.


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From: vanyel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Duo Damsel (Re: Send in the Clones)
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:57:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: camelot.vanyel.719107063
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bradley University

dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
>vanyel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Williams):
>>So how did Luornu get the split personality mentioned in the third Annual?
>That split personality is a baseless rumor, an outright canard,
>a downright duck!

Yeah, uh-huh....  Right....  And Garth Sr. is *strictly* Garth....  And Vi
and Ayla are just friends....

--

 _______________ Alan Williams | vanyel@camelot.bradley.edu _________________
 \/ "So that's what they taught you in college!  Just when I tell you to   \/
     go, you leave me!"  -- Groucho Marx, _Horsefeathers_ (1932)
From: daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: CYBER FORCE #1
Date: 14 Oct 92 05:39:38 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

In rec.arts.comics.misc, intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Sheila Rani Gurtu) writes:

> 
>  > Well, maybe it's good for *his* stuff.  Let's see...[fetches comic]
>  > these characters are too damn flexible for the bulk they have (see
>  > cover, guy on right (we get his name?), flexing arm)...p18,panel3:
>  > one of our greatest kicks was to see Wolver-I MEAN, "Ripclaw"
>  > suddenly gain 4-foot claws (neat trick)!  And this is just a quick
>  > glance...
>  
> I disagree.  I thought the art was impressive.

The inking is actually very nice, and quality paper is always
good.

The illustration is filled with the typical women who have breasts
the size of Oprah Winfrey and waists barely large enough to
contain a spinal column.

>  
> I didn't think Ripclaw was Wolverine ripoff.  I mean, clearly he was the
> standard guy-with-claws, which seems to be becoming as much of a standard
> character for supergroups as a strong guy.  But he didn't have the 
> personality of Wolverine; he lacked that insufferable cockier-than-thou
> attitude.  I thought all the characters seemed fairly human.  I liked
> the addition of the mechanic-guy, and TIMMIE, and the cute robots, who
> weren't engineered to be kewl in any way.

Well, the most pathetic thing was the names.  Ripclaw?  Cyblade?

Jesus, spare me.

doug
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