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From: cczcole@mips.nott.ac.uk (Marlon Cole)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: other monsters....
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:58:19 GMT
Reply-To: cczcole@mips.nott.ac.uk (Marlon Cole)
Organization: Nottingham University

In article <1992Nov10.121506.25339@gdr.bath.ac.uk>, ccspjs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Pete J Suters) writes:
|>   We used to get the same thing with Roo.  She'd always give us
|> an annoyed look when we changed the channel on the TV.  I think in
|> that case it was to do with the type of remote that we had.  The thing
|> worked on ultrasonics rather than the type we have now which makes
|> no sound (if you're a cat).  

I've a similar story....
when we got our cats as kittens I owned a wonderful camera (a Contax) but it suffered from the 
'problem' of having manual focus, and I wasn't too adept at keeping the cats in focus.
So I traded it in for one of these new-fangled auto-focus, auto-everything, integral flash in the
pentaprism jobbies, a bottom of the range Canon EOS in fact - because I didn't get a particularly
good trade-in on my old camera I skimped on the lens, and got a 28-90mm Sigma variety - it works,
very well in fact, but it's rather noisy when focusing.
I soon got a hankering for a telephoto, as now the cats were going outside, looking cute under
distant hedgerows, on roofs, tops of sheds, etc. and also I didn't want to have to stalk them so
close to get a picture.  This time I got a Canon lens, a 100-300mm zoom, which is part of their new
ultrasonic motor equipped range.
Great I thought, now I can keep my distance and take great, well-focused pictures of my little
darlings at work and play.  Not so!  While the lens is amazingly quiet to the point of silence to
me, the first time I operated it the cats got the shock of their lives!  They both looked round
quite annoyed that I should be making such a loud noise at them - still, I got off a couple of
shots of tails disappearing around the corner :-)
Fortunately, with perseverence they've got more used to it, especially when outside.

Marlon

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From: pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Welcome to the First Cat (Socks)
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:12:58 GMT
Reply-To: pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens)
Organization: m4


A 21 can salute to the soon-to-be-resident cat in the White House,
Socks!  When (if ever) was the last time there was a cat in the
White House?

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From: sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu (   Kate   )
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: When to Neuter?
Date: 12 Nov 92 01:07:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: sumax.5726
Organization: Seattle University

Don't know about the "right" time to neuter, but at the Humane Society
they neutered Hemingway before I could take him home, i.e., at 4 months. 
That resulted in me having to wait three days to pick him up while they
kept him "under observation" since he nearly didn't come out of the
anesthesia.  He's fine now, but I think if they'd given me a choice I'd
have waited...he also had an upper respiratory infection going into
surgery but they assured me it would not be a stress on his system to go
through the process.  More and more I wonder about the word "humane" in
some aspects of that organization.

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From: cyndie@sequent.com (Cyndie Sutherland)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat food/boarding questions
Date: 12 Nov 92 00:26:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Nov12.002619.8942
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <Qf0MIsO00iV086T2QK@andrew.cmu.edu> am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Anna Matyas) writes:
>
>Also, I'm going to board Gracie soon for a week when I go away.  She has
>a rather gentle constitution and I'm so concerned that she's going to feel
>like she's been dumped yet again.  If stress really can cause urinary
>tract infections in cats she could develop it again. Does anyone know if
>stress really does this?  Also, I have this fear that she's going to get
>ill or even die because she's going to be so sad.  (Perhaps I'm being
>vain here thinking she'll miss me so much -- she might have the time of
>her life!).
>
>How do other folks deal with boarding their cats?  I'd rather do this than
>have a friend come to my house once a day for 10 minutes of feeding and
>playing; at least at the Pet Resort she'll get more attention even though
>she'll be in a cage (and I'm permitted to take along personal effects,
>such as toys and her favorite blanket -- which used to be MINE. :)  I
>want to enjoy my trip (because I really need it!!) but I know she'll be
>on my mind during all my waking hours.
>
>Thanks,
>Anna

We get a professional cat sitter for our kitties.  They stay at home
in afamiliar environment and have the whole house to run around in.
Our lady used to work for the vet we go to.  She's comes by one in the
morning and once in the evening.  So the kitties get 2-3 hours of
devoted attention.  When we come home, they didn't even miss us!!!
Call your vet for a recommendation.

cyndie
From: 00kacohn@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Spaying cats? HELP!
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:33:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: bsu-ucs.1992Nov13.103304.11868
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's


     I had to put in my own $0.02 worth on spaying cats, since three of my four
cats are spayed females (Yain is also neutered).  Any dopeyness resulting from
the operation would be caused by the vet giving the cat too much anesthetic, or
keeping the cat under for too long.  Any good vet knows how much to give them,
so you shouldn't run into that problem.  Also, I have heard that unspayed
females are susceptible to all sorts of gynecological problems, which are often
cured by-- you guessed it-- spaying the cat.
     I think that if you have a cat spayed before she ever goes into heat, you
aren't "taking away a part of her life" because she has never experienced it.
I also think that there are too many unwanted kittens in the world to not spay,
unless you've got a show cat that you want to breed.
     (End of sermon)I haven't noticed any change in my cats' personalities
since their respective operations.  Savannah still flirts with everybody in
sight and walks along the shower rod, Pyewacket still terrorizes Yain (who is
twice her size), and Roofshadow is still shy.  Yain still thinks he is a macho
stud who has never been to the vet.  I think that if you've got a good vet, you
have nothing to worry about.

Casey
From: mas@calmasd.Prime.COM (Marisa SorBello)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: other monsters....
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:19:00 GMT
Organization: Computervision, San Diego, CA

In article <Qey4Iy_00iV0E6O4wl@andrew.cmu.edu> am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Anna Matyas) writes:
>
>She seems very annoyed by the tv remote control, too.  I don't think she's
>really afraid of it but if she's sitting across the room from me when I
>start flipping through channels, she gets this annoyed look (sort of a
>side-long glance at me), turns her body slightly around so she isn't
>facing me anymore, and lets out a long "whirl" sound.

Sachia seems to be offended by the remote, too, but only the VCR's
remote.  If I'm stretched out on the couch and Her Highness is lying
on my chest purring contentedly, she'll just stay there as long as my 
hands don't move.  But the minute I pick up the remote to fast forward,
especially if I FF too far and have to hit a couple other buttons, the
tail starts flicking.  Remote goes on the coffee-table, Sachia
relaxes.  Another bout of button pushing, and up comes the head of
Her Poofiness to glare at me.  The third time I use the remote, off
she goes to the floor.  Sometimes I let the commercials drone on 
just to keep Sachia with me.

-- Marisa
From: deeds@oracle (Deanna J. Deeds)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: help for my little kitten
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:46:21 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

I (deeds@oracle) wrote:
: a cute little girl kitty at the National Cat Preservation Society
                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^
                                        that's "Protection" -- oops.
..and sorry I got so long-winded.  I'm upset.

Deanna
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Re: WHAT TO NAME A WHITE MALE KITTEN
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:00:47 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <5666@sumax.seattleu.edu> sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu (Maven o'Mirth) writes:
>In article <wall-051192173511@elvis.swarthmore.edu> wall@cc.swarthmore.edu (Matthew Wall) writes:
>>
>>How about...
>>
>>Cocaine
>[lots of good suggestions deleted]
>>
>>gotta go now...
>>
>>- matt
>
>Reminds me of an albino cat my friend once had named Cocaine.  Lived up to
>his name...at the age of 3 years he would still, for no apparent reason,
>suddenly attack anything in his reach and rend it to shreds.
>
>Funny part is, on catnip he was the sweetest, calmest cat you'd ever want
>to meet. 
>
>My theory on cat names: a cat will tell you his or her name.  You simply
>must listen very intently when he or she is looking at you with that
>eyes-squeezed-half-closed look, and you will hear.
>
Wasn't it the movie "Logan's Run" that said cats had three names? An everyday
name, a fancy name, and the name that they call each other, but they never
tell anyone that one. (or something to that effect).

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From: tam@stat.tamu.edu (Tamara Martin)
Subject: Multiple fathers?
Summary: Can kittens have multiple fathers?
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:43:36 GMT


My mother and I were talking about our newest addition, Seagrams.
She was born at my Mother's farm, the mama-cat being a small boned
black-with-gold-flecks cat, and what we thought the daddy cat is 
also small-boned with longish hair. (The daddy cat also has a black
spotted nose) Seagrams has the daddy cats longish hair, and the spot
on her nose (looks nothing like the mom) the only problem is that 
she's only 7 mos old, and she's bigger than the daddy cat ever thought
about being. Recently, mom saw another cat running around the farm, 
but this one is about the size of a medium sized dog. 

My question is this, during the converstation, my mom said that 
cats would have two different fathers to one litter. What she was 
unsure of, is wether the litter itself can have two fathers, or if 
an actual kitten can have two fathers. Does anyone know anything 
about this? I thought it was really bizarre, but it really makes 
sense with Seagrams.

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: sarah@albnyvms.bitnet
Subject: Re: Spooky things
Reply-To: sarah@albnyvms.bitnet
Organization: University of NY at Albany
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 06:59:27 GMT

about not trying to get out without her leash/collar.  I find that her
leash manners are pretty good (as long as we go where SHE wants to go,
but what else should I expect?).
 
I'm pretty happy, though.  I thought I was going to have to bring some
used litter with me to show her that it was OK outside too, but I guess
there are enough stray cats to leave smells for her to figure it out on
her own.
 
Sarah, who feels like going out right now, but it's 2AM and COLD!!!
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: maverick@topgun.b29.ingr.com (Mike Sorrelle)
Subject: Re: My roommate broke my kitten's leg!!!!
Reply-To: maverick@topgun.b29.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp., Dullsville (as in Huntsville), AL
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:41:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.171315.4037@memstvx1.memst.edu>, nvonstein@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
|> In article <40840@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, ph600fcy@sdcc14.ucsd.edu (Matthew Harrington) writes:
|> > [...story about Ecuadorian female roommate slamming kitten to floor...]
|> 
|> [...]  Ditch the bitch!
|> 
|> Nancy

Yeah! 
Ditch the bitch!  Ditch the bitch!  Ditch the bitch!

All together now:
Ditch the bitch!  Ditch the bitch!  Ditch the bitch!

Okay, now everyone get all their kitties to join in:
Meowch mew meitch!  Meowch mew meitch!  Meowch mew meitch!

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From: at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. French)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: When to Neuter?
Date: 11 Nov 1992 07:24:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. French)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, wd6cmu@netcom.com (Eric Williams) says:
>The most common suggestion seems to be when the urine changes to a
>more pungent odor.  It hasn't happen yet here, but others say it is
>hard to miss.
>
My vet said that when the canine teeth are fully grown in, they
are ready. I had never heard this one before. Spanky was neutered
at 6 and 1/2 months, his fangs very definitely grown in, his
size, about 9 pounds, and he had not started spraying or anything
yet. The other two male cats I had were both neutered at six 
months, with no apparent ill effect. Good luck!
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: joannee@sco.COM (Joanne Eglash)
Subject: My mother has nine cats/help
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 19:44:07 GMT


Posting for my mother -- please respond to me at
my e-mail address: joannee@sco.COM

My mother writes:  "I now have a ninth cat; she is
beautiful and showed up in the back yard yesterday.
I think that all homeless cats are learning this is the
place to call home.

But I have a problem.  The cats have pulled up the carpet
all over the place.  How can I stop them from pulling up
the carpet and scratching on the furniture?  I read an
article that said to hiss and growl at them.  But what
about when you're not in the room and they go ahead and
pull up the carpet or scratch off the upholstery on the
couch?  Is there anything I can spray on the carpet or
sofa to keep them off?"

Any ideas for my mother?  Products she can use for her 
furniture and carpets?  Helpful hints?  Please send your
suggestions for my cat-lovin' mother to:

joannee@sco.COM
From: mas5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MICHELLE A. M. SZENA)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Cat drooling excessivly
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:01:58 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

My Pookie cat went to the vet last week for a hormone shot to try to stop her
peeing on the rug.  She had the shot on Monday.  When I came home from work
Friday night one of my cats (I have two) had thrown up all over the entire
kitchen floor, (this is gross), it was even splashed up on the walls.  I
didn't know which cat was sick but I had two new plants in the house so I
assumed that was problem as I found a piece of stem in the vomit, so out they
went.

Later that night I noticed that Pookie was drooling.  I didn't think much of
it at first but later on I lifted up her head while she was lying on the couch
and there was a huge wetspot under her head.  When I went to wipe the drool
that was hanging on her lips, water just came pouring out of her mouth.  The
drool was clear, odor free and did not feel slimy.  She drooled like this
until Sunday night when she suddenly stopped.  Other than the drooling she was
fine.  She ate, played with Merlin and just acted like she always does.

I wanted to take her to the vet but after paying close to three hundred
dollars to the vet in the past three months I wanted to wait.  If she would
have been listless or not eating I would have called right away.

Has anyone had an experience like this or does anyone know what it could have
been?  I'm really curious.  I'd call the vet now but they won't tell you
anything on the phone.  My experience has been that I call them and they tell
me to just bring her in, then they usually don't really know what's wrong
anyway without doing hundreds of dollars worth of tests.  I appreciate any
information anyone could give me about this.


Michelle
and Pookie (the former drooler) and Merlin (Pookie's personal cleaner)
"Don't worry Pookie, I'll lick the drool off your face", said Merlin
                          
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: wd6cmu@netcom.com (Eric Williams)
Subject: Re: how to tell a cat it is a cat, not human
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:53:58 GMT

I think Murphy figured out pretty early how to keep out of my way.  The
first night he shared the bed, I had sleepy memories of rolling over and
hearing this muffled yeowl beneath me.  He tries his best to take up as
much room as he can (human moves away from constricting lump, cat moves
closer to comfy, warm lump, etc.), but with a queen-sized bed I have no
compunctions about pushing him over to "his" side when I want more room.
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From: jessica@wrs.com (Jessica Hart)
Subject: Re: Weird cat treats
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:49:59 GMT



Okay, I can't resist any more. Corn cobs. After I've eaten off the corn.
They like to have me hold them out horizontally, they take them
in their little mouths and carry them away to their lair (the corner
of the living room). They also get very sniffy and in-my-face while
I'm preparing these lovely toys for them (while I'm eating the corn,
that is.) Must smell great to a cat, I guess. After they've played
with them all over the floor, leaving little bits of corn everywhere,
they are satisfied and wander off to do some other form of havoc.
From: ellard@unixg.ubc.ca (Mary)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: WHAT TO NAME A WHITE MALE KITTEN
Date: 8 Nov 1992 20:58:19 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca

In article <1d8nqlINNphe@uwm.edu) hcrain@convex.csd.uwm.edu writes:
)> ITS MY FIRST TIME TO EVER HAVE A PET IN MY LIFE.
)> ANY ADVICE GIVE IT. ILL NEED IT.
)> ALSO I NEED A GREAT NAME.
)> NOTHING STUPID OR TIPICAL LIKE WHITEY OR SNOWBALL,FLUFFY
)> THANK YOU.
)> GEORGE AND ? signing off
)> and im living here in allentown
) 
)How about  Blanco?  

How about Blackie?  :-)

-Mary
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: help for my little kitten
Date: 12 Nov 92 12:05:51 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <23966@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM>, deeds@oracle (Deanna J. Deeds) writes:
....
> It's really tough to do this, but you really ought to try to
> isolate each of the sick kitties.  This means no sharing of water
> or food bowls, no playing or sleeping or grooming together, you
> get the picture.  I did not follow this advice and today I am 
> very sorry I didn't.
Missed the first post, so I'll toss in my $0.02 now.  Yes, it's
a good idea to keep "new cats" by themselves for a week or so--
hopefully, if they're going to get sick, they'll come down with
it then instead of giving whatever it is to everybody else.

> Anyway, when Tuppence (inevitably) contracted the bug, I finally 
> put the little one in "kitty prison" (she has a nice bedroom all to 
> herself with toys & perches etc.), she is going to pull through, but 
> my poor big kitty is very sick.  Doesn't do much but drink water and go the
> the litter box to urinate, and sleeps or just sits.  
This is typical sick cat behavior.  Might try leaving an incandescent
light on, and see if she "roosts" under it-- many cats are heat-seekers
when they are sick.  Or they'll hunker down in a box or blanket (or
even get under a blanket!).

>The vet said 
> they are okay as long as they're still eating.  Does anyone know
> what constitutes "not eating"?  

Forget about dry catfood for most cats when they're sick.  This is the
time to spoil them with all the dainties you can think of -- all-meat
baby food, freshly cooked chicken or turkey, smelly cheese, spaghetti
sauce -- whatever you can get them to eat.

Yesterday noon I got her to take
> a few kitty snacks (Pounce-like), and this morning I spoon-fed
> her some chicken broth with vitamin drops and a bit of butter.
> She sniffed at the dry food but I guess it didn't smell like food.

Cats with stuffy noses usually can't smell the food too well.  If 
they normally like spaghetti or pizza, try that -- the herbs tend
to penetrate.  Some cats are nuts about garlic or onions, and a little
extra can help at times like this.  Most cats will respond to coaxing
from the owner-- eating off your finger, eating off your dinner plate...
(the things we do for cats!!!?!?!?!!!)
From: ccspjs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Pete J Suters)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: other monsters....
Date: 5 Nov 92 11:35:57 GMT
Organization: Bath University Computing Services, UK

In the referenced article, gibson@dl5000.bc.edu (Rene Gibson) writes:
>When my sister played the clarinet, my parents' cat Blackie used to go
>in the room with her to listen and looked as if she were critiquing my
>sister's playing.
>
>Rene

  Out cat Roo likes to listen to me playing guitar!  She sits and 
purrs along with the tune.  Because I am away for a lot of the
time, she doesn't see much of me, but always associates the sound
of the guitar with me.  My mum had a go at learning guitar, and whenever
she started strumming, Roo would come running, thinking it was me.
Apparrantly, she gives my mum a disgusted look, and wanders off out
again - it's a good thing my mum doesn't take these things personally!

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