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From: harderaf@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: how to tell if beer/ale is skunked
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:52:10 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

In article <binkley.717872994@beagle>, binkley@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Jon Binkley) writes:
> schuyler@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Schuyler Stultz) writes:
> 
>>I was wondering how do you tell if a bottle of beer is skunked if you've
>>never had that particular beer before.  Case in point:  I got a bottle
>>of Anchor Liberty Ale last night.  I've never had it before, though I have
>>had the Anchor Steam Beer.  When I open the Liberty Ale and took a sip, it
>>was quite bitter.  I mean REALLY bitter.  I've never had much experience
>>with ales as opposed to beers either, so I don't know if I just don't like
>>Anchor Liberty, or if I got a skunked bottle of it.
> 
> Anchor Liberty is the bitterest beer I know.  I'm a hophead, but
> I can only stand to drink one or two at a sitting; at that
> point my mouth begins to taste like bile.  It is not for everyone.

Dear Skunk:

The reason beer tastes bitter is that beer is a corruption of the word bitter. 
So now, you know!  Don't drink any more American crap!


Read the American Heritage Dictionary (all of it!) of beer and find
(post-haste!):  A fermented and bitter alcoholic beverage brewed from malt and
flavored with hops and really piss bitter.


> 
> You tell if a beer is skunked if it smells like a dead skunk, or
> like cat urine, or like really bad body odor.  Anchor Liberty
> is certainly susceptable to getting skunked, but if the
> only objectionable quality you found about it was its bitterness,
> I'd say it's just too bitter for you (and that's not meant as a
> flame; unlike some here, I don't expect everyone to like every
> "good" beer).
> 
> Jon Binkley
> 


Love,

Ali Spaerk


Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: binkley@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Jon Binkley)
Subject: Re: how to tell if beer/ale is skunked
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:09:54 GMT

schuyler@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Schuyler Stultz) writes:

>I was wondering how do you tell if a bottle of beer is skunked if you've
>never had that particular beer before.  Case in point:  I got a bottle
>of Anchor Liberty Ale last night.  I've never had it before, though I have
>had the Anchor Steam Beer.  When I open the Liberty Ale and took a sip, it
>was quite bitter.  I mean REALLY bitter.  I've never had much experience
>with ales as opposed to beers either, so I don't know if I just don't like
>Anchor Liberty, or if I got a skunked bottle of it.

Anchor Liberty is the bitterest beer I know.  I'm a hophead, but
I can only stand to drink one or two at a sitting; at that
point my mouth begins to taste like bile.  It is not for everyone.

You tell if a beer is skunked if it smells like a dead skunk, or
like cat urine, or like really bad body odor.  Anchor Liberty
is certainly susceptable to getting skunked, but if the
only objectionable quality you found about it was its bitterness,
I'd say it's just too bitter for you (and that's not meant as a
flame; unlike some here, I don't expect everyone to like every
"good" beer).

Jon Binkley
From: cse0070@uoft02.utoledo.edu (bk@beer.heaven.bar)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Brooklyn Lager
Date: 2 Oct 92 01:23:49 EST
Distribution: na
Organization: Over@There

In article <1992Sep30.185348.12109@shearson.com>, scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis) writes:
> Its a heavy beer but good.. it is also an aquired taste ..
> has anyone else had it and how did u like it ?
> 

I've had the Brooklyn Brown Dark Ale before.  It was *HARSH*.  I did not
like it one bit!!

Bryan Kruzynski
cse0070@uoft02.utoledo.edu

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From: slamb@milp.jsc.nasa.gov (Sean Lamb)
Subject: Re: Beer Survey
Organization: Loral Space Information Systems
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:29:08 GMT

In article <92Sep29.020630.26413@acs.ucalgary.ca>, quigley@acs.ucalgary.ca (Martyn Thomas Quigley) writes:
|> (Mike 'Vogon' Margolis) writes:
|> >Favorite Import: Any Spaten Beer except light (e.g. Oktoberfest, Dark, Club 
|>                       ^^^^^^
|> What does this term signify?  Recently I shared a brew with a friend 
|> (German) and I pronounced this "schpaeten" as in "later", analogously
|> to spatlese.  She was not impressed and pronounced it "schpatten"--which 
|> my dictionary tells me refers to a spade.  What's the groose?
|> 
|> Confused, Calgary.

You got it, have you looked at the label? Looks like a spade to me.  The
 the letters "G S" are for Gabriel Sadlmeyer (sp?) a great man in the history
 of German brewing.  I'd have to do more research to come up with the time
 that the spade logo came into use.

 Now down to brass tacks.  Did she like the beer?  How did it go after your
 faux-pas?

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From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: Good Beer Anywhere
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:45:09 GMT

In article 30SEP199211235408@sigma.tamu.edu, rkb6116@sigma.tamu.edu (Mr. Weather) writes:
>It seems like it would be
>possible to make a valuable reference file containing all the small
>brewpubs and bars across the country (and world). It would take much
>effort and orginazation, but would be very useful.

It's been done...it's called "On Tap", and it's available from WBR
Publications in Clemson SC.  Sorry I can't be more specific...I have
the address at home.  I'll try to remember to post it tomorrow, unless
somebody beats me to it.

gak

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From: parsons@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Black and Tans!
Keywords: help me!
Date: 29 Sep 92 12:38:54 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

asimeone@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (antonio simeone) writes:

>Quick, somebody please tell me how to pour a black and tan where the
>beers are separated!  i just tried it and they mixed.
>can anyone help me???????? 

	I've never had any luck doing it with bottled beers except when
using the new "pub draught" Guinness in a can.  If you use that it works
great.  Start with half a glass of tan (some ale or something) and then
*slowly and gently* pour the Guinness on top down the side of the glass.

Slainte bha!
	-m.
From: ufe@dlva.dl.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Bass Union
Date: 5 Oct 92 08:23:48 GMT
Reply-To: ufe@dlva.dl.ac.uk ()
Organization: SERC Daresbury Lab., Warrington, U.K.

-- the Union at Bass has been defunct for well over 10 years now ...
and the beer never recovered. Only Marstons of Burton now use the
Union system - for brewing Pedigree. They have recently shown their
faith in the system by installing a 3rd union.
BTW The Union system is a way of yeast propogation. Fermenting beer
is recirculated through a system of Oak barrels and troughs which 
impart a complex and distinctive flavour on the beer.
Cheers,
	Mark
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From: ndavies@nyx.cs.du.edu (Nick Davies)
Subject: Re: Mackesons Brewery
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 14:09:14 GMT

In article <BvEqK1.M84@well.sf.ca.us> wab@well.sf.ca.us (Doc Benzene) wri
es:
>
>My cousin would like to tour the brewery that brews Mackesons
>XXX Cream Stout while he's honeymooning in the UK.  I've
>looked through my '87 CAMRA guide and I can't find the brewer
>listed.  Could someone in the UK tell me where Mackesons is
>brewed.  Thanks.




Mackeson has been brewed by Whitbreads for as long as anyone can remember.
Whitbreads are a large British brewing and 'leisure' industry firm best
known for buying up small local breweries, closing them down and realising
the assets.  I would guess that Mackeson is mage at their factory in
Cheltenham but you can bet it's not worth going round, unless you like
chemical engineering works.

Nick Davies,  nd01@cc.ic.ac.uk in reality.
From: glowe@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Glen H. Lowe)
Subject: Re: Miller "Special Reserve"
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Reply-To: glowe@ics.uci.edu (Glen H. Lowe)
Organization: U.C. Irvine - Information and Computer Science
Date: 4 Oct 92 02:15:19 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.150148.18028@pbs.org> djohnston@pbs.org writes:

>Anyone else tried this new product from Miller?  What did you think?

Ack. Yuck. Pttff.  Drink Spaten Optimator and get "Optimized"!
(Or if you could always drink water.)

Glen Lowe
University of California, Irvine

Spaten Optimator, the official beer of the UCI's CS majors and
Calmindon Hall!
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: gfl@hera.uucp (22402-lenahan)
Subject: Re: Brooklyn Lager
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 14:15:34 GMT
Summary: Brooklyn brewing co. beers

> I've had the Brooklyn Brown Dark Ale before.  It was *HARSH*.  I did not
> like it one bit!!
> 
Last evening I went to a beer tasting / seminar led by a well-
regarded beer writer.  Among the 20-odd beers (and some were...:-)),
I tried both Brooklyn Lager and Brooklyn Brown Ale.  Both were
quite good, and generally appreciated.  My notes indicate:

Lager-
Light amber beer with hoppy noes, malt body (light), and 
a light "pop-y" carbonation.  Fruity aroma typical
more of an ale.

Brown Ale-
Rich dark maltiness, sweet and smooth flavor, light 
carbonation, a bit heavy for some pallates, but quite 
good to me.  Not chewy liek some dark beers.

Ironically, the lager exhibited an ale-like fruitiness,
while the ale exhibited a maltiness more typical of a
caramel-malt lager.

Grant
From: schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Okanagan Spring Porter
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:34:27 GMT
Reply-To: Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca
Distribution: na
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

sggriffi@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Big Steve Griffin) writes:

>I just wanted to alert everyone in the western U.S. and Canada of this great
>beer I tried in B.C.  Okanagan Spring Porter:  Dark, Heavy (8.5% alcohol) and,  where I tried it, same as regular beer prices.  

>By the way, has anyone else tried this???

Yes indeed. It is great beer.

Without meaning to sound picky, it actually called "Olde English Porter".

It is made in Vernon BC by Okanagan Spring and conforms to the
Bavarian Purity Laws.




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From: jdecarlo@mitre.org (John DeCarlo)
Subject: Re: Wheat beers?
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean  VA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:11:28 GMT

In article <binkley.718382706@beagle>
 binkley@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Jon Binkley) writes:

>lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle J. Mackey) writes:
>
>>I have recently become enamored of Celis Wheat, a locally brewed wheat beer...

>I am unfamiliar with Celis Wheat, so I will keep my comments general.

Well, I, too, have never tasted Celis Wheat.  Does anyone have a description 
of the Celis beers?  I know they are making a Belgian Wit beer, are they 
calling it Celis Wheat?  Since the brewer sold his Belgian brewery before 
starting the Celis brewery in Texas, I thought all the Celis beers would be 
Belgian in nature.

John DeCarlo, MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA--My views are my own
Fidonet:  1:109/131  Internet:  jdecarlo@mitre.org
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: steve@unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow)
Subject: Re: Australian beer
Organization: Unipalm Ltd., 216 Cambridge Science Park, Cambridge CB4 4WA, UK
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:18:05 GMT

jkdickin@yoho.uwaterloo.ca (John K. Dickinson) writes:

>In article <1a3aigINNeac@bigboote.WPI.EDU> cappy@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Rich Capistran) writes:
>>Cheers Fellow Beer Lovers-
>>
>>	I visited London last fall and it was there that I found Castlemain
>>e XXXX.  I was just wondering if any of you out there have seen this beer 
>>in the USA.  Secondly there was VB Victoria Bitter which was also pretty
>>good.  Any information leading to the purchase of these beers int the
>>United States will be greatly appreciated.
>>
>	I haven't seen VB in Ontario but I have seen Castlemain XXXX in the
>local liquor stores on a regular basis. This may be old news to you
>depending on which London you went to (England or Ontario). I may have once
>seen Castlemain in some of the larger beer stores in the states near the border
>but I can't remember that far back well.

>	John


I'm not sure what is available in the US or Canada but do check where the
XXXX is brewed. In the UK it is brewed under licence in the UK and IMHO is
nothing very special. The imported (brewed in Australia) can is far superior.

However nothing beats drinking XXXX straight from a stubby in Oz.

Steve Ladlow
steve@unipalm.co.uk
From: brown@odin.ins.cwru.edu (Dan Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Sam Adams Octoberfest!
Date: 3 Oct 1992 16:53:04 GMT
Organization: Subversive Student Publications un-inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: odin.ins.cwru.edu

In an earlier posting v057p7nk@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Andrew W Korbut) writes:
>So, is this stuff hoppy as hell, or what?  I love it!  Has anyone else
>picked up a few cases, or is it safe to assume that those who have are in 
>no condition to post?

SA Octoberfest is mild in the Hop catagory compared to SN Summerfest, '92.

That stuff will take the insides of your mouth out, it has SO much hop
to it. 

Good stuff though.
Later.


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From: fritz@triguy.East.Sun.COM (Steve Fritzinger - SE Sun Washington,DC.)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Sam exports?
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:37:10 GMT
Reply-To: fritz@triguy.East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: triguy.east.sun.com

Sam Adams advertises itself as the only American beer
imported into Germany.  Well, last Fall I was on
vacation in Austria (Not Germany, but they have the
same healthy reverance for beer), and came across
a beer shop with a 10 ft. by 30 ft display of imported
beers.  The only one in the tiny little section labled
U.S.A. was Sam Adams Boston Lager.

Steve Fritzinger   --  steve.fritzinger@East.Sun.COM
The First Rule of Holes:
When you're in one, stop digging.
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: dcb@rosedale.uucp (Dave Breneman)
Subject: Re: Storing beer?
Organization: The Spud Goodman Show
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 04:44:34 GMT

In article <1686982DD.CCALLEWA@cmsa.gmr.com> CCALLEWA@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
>OK all you brew guru's out there, can anyone tell me how
>long you can store Labatt's light and Molson Golden?
>Both are in cans and kept in my basement.
>Thanks :)

Carter found seeds in King Tut's tomb which were later germinated
and grew.  These beers of yours will be found thousands of years
from now and will not be any worse than they are now.  In fact,
you should get a boat and row out into a deep bay or lake.  Throw
the beer overboard.  Tens of thousands of years from now, 
archeologists will discover them in the face of a sandstone cliff.
They will be no worse than they are now.  What you have on your
hands are timeless artifacts of late-20th-century chemistry.

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From: ftit@engin.umich.edu (Sergej Roytman)
Subject: Re: Breweries, Brewpubs, and Beers in Michigan
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 03:19:47 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: na

In article <1992Oct2.000153.21595@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mwpeters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Peterson) writes:
|
|I'm wondering if anyone out there can point me in the direction of
|some breweries and brewpubs in Michigan.
|Also, are there any beers worth drinking that are Michigan-brewed?
|I've finally came to my senses and am tired of this Budmilloors swill.
|

I can recommend the beers of the Frankenmuth brewery.  They're all good
but my favorite is the bock.  Must have something to do with the
freshness -- not much time to spoil in transit.  I believe they do
brewery tours and sell their beer there, but I haven't tried either and
can't comment.

Good luck in your search for the Perfect Brew!

|---Michael 

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From: scl7375@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Bud sucks
Reply-To: scl7375@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 02:37:52 GMT

I just would like to take this drunken opportunity to say that bud 
tastes like shitwater or goat piss, or any other gross think you can 
think of. I can't drink it even when I'm drunk.


				Liddleman
From: schuyler@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Schuyler Stultz)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: how to tell if beer/ale is skunked
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:29:24 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA


I was wondering how do you tell if a bottle of beer is skunked if you've
never had that particular beer before.  Case in point:  I got a bottle
of Anchor Liberty Ale last night.  I've never had it before, though I have
had the Anchor Steam Beer.  When I open the Liberty Ale and took a sip, it
was quite bitter.  I mean REALLY bitter.  I've never had much experience
with ales as opposed to beers either, so I don't know if I just don't like
Anchor Liberty, or if I got a skunked bottle of it.

Something that might make a difference was the fact that I got the bottle
from an import shop here in Blacksburg, Va where it was sitting on the shelf
at room temperature.  I did take it home and put in the fridge for a while
before I drank it.

Any responses would be greatly appreciated.

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From: plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Octoberfest brew request
Date: 5 Oct 1992 14:52:14 GMT
Organization: Brown University Planetary Geology
Distribution: usa
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In article <1andblINNkfu@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU> dwv@cs.brown.edu (David W. Vorbrich) writes:
>Ok... at a graduate reception I had a bottle of Ayinger "Oktober Fest-Marzen"
>which was pretty good, but I had already had 3 glasses of wine which certainly
>altered my taste buds, as well as my perception.
>
>So now I'm in the mood for some good October fest brews... any rec's out there?
>I'm in Providence, RI, so perhaps I should pick up some Sam Adams?

   Ayinger is great, but fairly expensive around here.  Spaten Oktoberfest
is good and cheaper, and is what I usually end up with.  Sam Adams tastes
like a *slightly* maltier version of the Boston Lager.  I don't recall
seeing many others around here.  Personally, if I were in Providence, RI (:-),
I'd take a day-trip up to Boston on the train, and subway around to the
brewpubs, looking for fresh Octoberfest brews.  The Boston Beer Works
reportedly has a couple seasonal brews, and custom-made German-style
sausages, available until the supply runs out.
   Local tips:  Town Wine & Spirits on Newport Avenue in East Prov
has a decent selection and good stock turnover.  Spiritus Fermenti on
Meeting Street has high prices, iffy selection (e.g. few specialty brews
like Spaten Octoberfest or Anchor's Christmas Ale), and slow turnover.
Campus Liquors on Brook is somewhere between the two, and has been
getting some good domestic regional brews lately (e.g. Anderson Valley,
New Haven Brewing).
--
Joel Plutchak, Research Programmer/Analyst
From: atl@kpc.com (Drew Lynch)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Great American Beer Festival Winners!
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:22:11 GMT
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer

Thanks for posting this!

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From: jimb@access.digex.com (Jim Brooking)
Subject: Re: Black and Tans!
Organization: National Commitee to Keep Slower Traffic Right
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:58:18 GMT

FYI:  I was able to make a "Black & Tan" this past weekend using
"Pub Draught Guinness" (in the can), and a bottle of my homebrew 
(Brewferm Diabolo).  Not bad.  The stout floats on top, and was
poured very slowly.  I impressed my SO's Mother.  8^)


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From: brown@odin.ins.cwru.edu (Dan Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Anhor Steam on prime time
Date: 29 Sep 1992 20:51:44 GMT
Organization: Subversive Student Publications un-inc.
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In an earlier posting schuyler@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Schuyler Stultz) writes:
>
>I was watching the season premier (sp?) of Northern Exposure last
>night when something caught my eye.  It was the scene where Maurice
>was talking to Holling at the bar.  Holling was standing in front of the
>beer taps.  As I looked closer, I realized one of the taps was for 
>Anchor Steam Beer.  Does anyone know if this was intentional?

I noticed that too... what I was more intersted in knowing was what was
the bottle Maurice got... and why he didn't get a glass of Anchor!! Also,
what was the tap right next to the Anchor?

???
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: mrmidi@aol.com (Tony Rice)
Subject: Brewpub list 
Reply-To: mrmidi@aol.com
Organization: the Big Nerd Ranch
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 20:58:20 GMT

I will post a list of brewpubs by state collected from traffic on
alt.beer and news.lists if everyone promises not to flood my mailbox 
or the net with requests and me too's.

If you have an addition to the list please mail it to:
mrmidi@aol.com

Please don't mail to my business address, I'd like to keep my internet
and USENET access.


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