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From: morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (An Elmo of Their Own)
Subject: Re: RAC
Organization: Fay Vincent's Baseball Substitute
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 20:58:51 GMT
X-Posted-From: fnalo.fnal.gov
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <BuHJHr.GBp@news.udel.edu>, lmlc@brahms.udel.edu (Carolyn M Chandler) writes:
> Why would anyone vote NOT to have new newsgroups, someone mentioned 
> the hasle of more crossposts but can this measure up to having to
> read endless post about Marvel and image? I still dont see what/who 
> would be hurt by forming new newsgroups. I would like to hear from someone
> who would vote aganist a newsgroup rac.(vatlint+dark horse+image) and why?
> -morgan

	I would vote against any company-based split under any charter or
combination of companies.  Would you seriously want to follow a Frank Miller
discussion in rac.marvel, rac.dc, AND rac.dark-horse?  The entire output of
Image comics covers exactly the same territory as the majority of Marvel and
DC's output, yet you want to segregate the groups into
rac.superheroes-with-Image-on-the-cover and
rac.superheroes-with-DC-on-the-cover and
rac.superheroes-with-Marvel-on-the-cover.
	Company splits are inane and nonsensical.
	What would I vote for?  Genre-based splits.  I voted "YES" for
rac.superheroes[-of-all-companies], but a majority of votes felt "superhero"
was too poorly defined.  Obviously I disagree.  
	Also, I'd vote YES for medium splits, ie, rac.strips.  The only problem
is that there really aren't any media left which are identifiable "comics" but 
don't have their own group (eg, books, manga, strips).
	I would also vote for narrow specialty groups, ie, rac.xbooks.
However, to vote YES, the specialty group would have to be well-defined and
have showed itself to be a consistent source of discussion over many years.
Besides the x-books, the only other immediately obvious contender is the LSH.
Possibly, the Titans might qualify.  In five years, the Valiant universe
might qualify for a specialty group, but I'd still probably vote it down, on 
the grounds that it's too broad.  Ditto for the Image "universe".
-- 
"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose."                        
--Janis Joplin, "Me & Bobby MeGee"                                             
  
elmo (morrow@physics.rice.edu,morrow@fnal.fnal.gov)
From: das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Superman dead?!!!!!!
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:24:28 GMT
Organization: Yet Another Graphics Project, Bellevue, WA

I just heard on the radio this morning that DC Comics is going to kill
Superman off in November.  Pleaasssseeee say it isn't so!  I've already
lost enough childhood heroes!
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 14 Sep 1992 10:51:59 CDT
From: <U16244@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Superperson
Distribution: usa
 <1992Sep8.194636.587@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>

I noticed this little list, and see a few inconsitencies.  Some people should
be excluded for using other people's technological stuff.  Like for
example, Tony Stark (die you fucking playboy bastard) could be considered a
self made man, but James Rhodes (yay!!!) wouldn't be considered self made.
That would make Bats and the Beetle more legal in this regard since they brew
their own gadgets.

However, I would consider Daredevil as one of the self made dudes.  Granted,
his heightened senses are wonderful, but even if he had had sight, and his
father was murdered, he'd probably still have been able to wage a war on
criminals due to his youthful self training and law school experience.  If
DD had never had the accident, he'd still have devoted himself to fighting
crime.  So I'd consider Daredevil as self made.

Douglas P. Wojtowicz.
From: w95_cook@wums.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: RE: Milk & Cheese
Date: 14 SEP 92 10:21:20 GMT
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER
NNTP-Posting-Host: msnews.wustl.edu

In a previous article, ntprlr@eskimo.celestial.com (NightProwler) wrote:
>Has anyone other than myself run accross this hillarious title?  I saw a
>couple of 1-3 page stories about these two (I forget the name of the
>artist...something to do with Predator I think).
> 
>Anyone know if anything further is going to be done with these "two dairy
>products gone bad"?
>-- 

So far, Slave Labor has produced three "one-shot" issues of this title:
Milk & Cheese #1, Milk & Cheese Other Number One, and Milk & Cheese Third
Number One.  

The artist is Evan Dorkin (I think that's spelled correctly), and yes, they
are absolutely hysterical.  The titles appear to be selling pretty well for
a Slave Labor book, so I would expect to keep seeing these one-shots pop
up from time to time.  I doubt anything regular will appear, however.




_______________________________________________________________

Jim Cook
W95_COOK@wums.wustl.edu

_______________________________________________________________
From: jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Aussie Super Heros
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:25:07 GMT
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM

In article <mumble> jbell@mihi.une.edu.au (Master of Puppets) writes:

>does anyone know of any Australian Superheros?
>I cant find even ONE....

Well, aside from the American comics' heroes other people have
mentioned, I've always been partial to Lt. Smith, Southern Cross,
Dingo, and Nightfighter of the Southern Squadren, an Australian
superhero comic book (imported to the US in two mini-series by
Aircel and then Eternity.)


-- 
Kansas Jim (Jim Ogle, TORG guru)
jogle@aoc.nrao.edu (NRAO-VLBA, Socorro New Mexico)
"I'd be apathetic if I cared."
From: gwangung@milton.u.washington.edu (Just another theatre geek.....)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: NEW SQUIDDIES (R.A.C. AWARDS) ADMINIST
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:37:15 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <715609198.1@fquest.FidoNet> Omega.Man@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Omega Man) writes:
>My question: If I have been so wrong in my flaming of you over the years,
>what justification do you give for the obvious snide remarks that you've
>presented above? 

	Kicking a cripple when he's down.


-- 
Roger Tang gwangung@milton.u.washington.edu
Executive Producer Emeritus, Asian Theatre at the UW;
	The definition of having balls is a non-singer who goes karaoke singing 
with the cast of a musical revue.
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From: 10726446@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (LAU WAI KUEN)
Subject: cry for dawn
Keywords: dawn
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:19:35 GMT


  Why, oh why, has it taken me until vol. 8 to find this masterpiece?
Is there anyone out there who could tell me what it's all about?

Hal
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,alt.comics.lnh
From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: LNH ROSTER UPDATES
Followup-To: kogutt@ucsu.colorado.edu
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 04:47:00 GMT

Hi, if ya'll have any corrections/additions/updates to make to either
roster(the OFICIALER is the current version) PLEASE get them to me by
say Wed.  I'd like to start on the update then.

BTW: There is an alt.comics.lnh in existence. be sure to x-post to it.

----SCAVENGER

-- 
KAHN: And I never forget a face.  Mr. Chekov,   |  kogutt@ucsu.colorado.edu
           isn't it?                            |      (Internet/Usenet)
CHEKOV:  But, I wasn't in that episode!!!       | No matter where you go, there
     (from MST3K:The Wrath of Kahn)             |    you are."-Buckaroo Banzai 
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From: lmlc@brahms.udel.edu (Carolyn M Chandler)
Subject: happiness
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 00:32:29 GMT


Happiness is a large pile of unread Cerebus comics waiting for you when 
you come home.

-morgan
From: vapspyo@prism.gatech.EDU (Jon Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Guy Gardner's new ring...HUH?
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:47:00 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <1992Sep15.110518.9576@bsu-ucs.uucp> 00njhavert@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:

>	Why did Guy get this YELLOW power ring? Does it work the same
>(on willpower) as the old green ring? I'm guessing so. Where did he 
>get the ring? How did he get the ring? WHAT IS UP WITH THIS RING?

The yellow ring is Sinestro's ring he got from the WeaponsMasters
in the anti-universe of Qward. When the GLC killed Sinestro, the
buried his in the crypts on Oa.  Guy Gardener, disliking losing
his GL power ring and wanting something to replace it, got Lobo's
help and eventually wrested control of the ring from the disembodied
spirit of Sinestro.  (Events of Old GL ~180, New GL #25, and Guy
Gardener Reborn (miniseries) #1-3.)

As for how it works, it generates power constructs based on will
similiar to GL power rings, without the yellow vulnerability.  If
the ring speaks, is intelligent, or can be programmed (some of my
favorite abilities of GL power rings), that remains to be seen.

>Sincerely confused,
>Nik

No problem,
Jon

-- 
 Jon Hughes | vapspyo@prism.gatech.edu | "As your elf touches the gold 
------------+--------------------------+   doorknob, 45,000 Volts of 
 electricity run through his body.  Your elf is now charcoal. What does
   your wizard do?"  "He calls the Dungeon Master a jerk." - FoxTrot          
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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Re: Image:  Moore/Gaiman/Sim/Miller
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 05:01:29 GMT

>
>	Image, as a concept of creator owned comics, isn't a bad idea. 
>They just have the wrong 'talent' working for them.  I'd love to see 
>a shared world with people like Claremont, Ostrander,Gaiman, Moore,
>Miller, PAD, Len Straziwierdlastname, McCloud, and so on.  It's just
>that right now, Image is fanboy hell. 
>-- 
>Rick Jones				Systems Support Center

Rick, isn't this the line up for the new company we proposed last year?
SUBSTANCE?

----SCAVENGER

-- 
KAHN: And I never forget a face.  Mr. Chekov,   |  kogutt@ucsu.colorado.edu
           isn't it?                            |      (Internet/Usenet)
CHEKOV:  But, I wasn't in that episode!!!       | No matter where you go, there
     (from MST3K:The Wrath of Kahn)             |    you are."-Buckaroo Banzai
From: ant@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (Anthony Murdoch)
Subject: Re: Supergirl question
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 06:10:41 GMT

pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:

>Forgive me for sounding stupid, but I haven't been keeping up with Superfamily
>cmics at all until now that I know Superman is going to die, but how did
>Supergirl die? I didn't realise that she checked out.

She died in the CRISIS series.  It was a big emotional episode (double
size).

ant
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From: mfterman@dae.Princeton.EDU (Mutant for Hire)
Subject: Re: cry for dawn
Reply-To: mfterman@phoenix.princeton.edu (Mutant for Hire)
Organization: Mutant for Hire, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:36:41 GMT

In article <10726446.138.716084375@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au>, 10726446@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (LAU WAI KUEN) writes:
>  Why, oh why, has it taken me until vol. 8 to find this masterpiece?
>Is there anyone out there who could tell me what it's all about?

Its a horror title, pure and simple. Sample matter tends to focus more
on mundane horrors rather than supernatural horrors. It doesn't go as
much for the Friday the 13th splatter = horror stuff, though it
doesn't shy away from gore when the plot requires it. All black and
white except for the cover.

The red-head on the cover is Dawn and she doesn't really do anything
other than draw in potential readers by posing provocatively on the
cover. She also appears in inside pages here and there. She might
cameo in a panel in a story or two, but really she's just there for
visual entertainment and to increase the readership. She also appears
on two t-shirts.

There aren't really any repeating characters or stories. There's a
certain amount of topicality, and a bit of contempt for common trends
in horror. Like the romantic vampire concept. Sometimes there's grim
stuff, other times there's a bit of humor. There's little sex, though
there's some nudity at times. The panels tend towards talking heads
rather than full body shots.

Its one of the better horror titles out there. I like it.

-- 
    Martin Terman, Mutant for Hire, Mad Scientist, Priest of Shub-Internet
    Disclaimer: Nobody else takes me seriously, why should you be the first?
mfterman@phoenix.princeton.edu mfterman@pucc.bitnet terman@pupgga.princeton.edu
"Sig quotes are like bumper stickers, only without the same sense of relevance"
From: mwinston@lust.reed.edu (Michael J. Winston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Batman, Todd McFarlane, and why I hate him
Date: 6 Sep 92 19:13:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Sep6.191344.5124
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1992Sep6.061311.125040@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>  
pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Paul Michael Lewis) writes:
 
> Oh, by the way, ever hear the story about how Todd McFarlane got Dale  
Keown
> fired from Marvel?


No.  Could you please share the story (or rumor)?

Michael
From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Dale Keown, and leaving The Incredible Hulk
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:39:39 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <65447@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
>That is correct. Gary Frank will be the new penciller on Hulk--making Hulk
>the only title at Marvel to have a writer/penciller team that doesn't have
>a single last name between them.

Does this mean that it's only a matter of time before Frank Peters out?

-- 
Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

"I am a cat, and I keep my own counsel."
					- "A Dream Of A Thousand Cats"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Re: Grendel and Spawn
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 04:22:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.225720.23473@csi.jpl.nasa.gov> maguire@copland.jpl.nasa.gov (Kevin Maguire) writes:
>In article <22334@galaxy.ucr.edu> zeus@watserv.ucr.edu (Zeus) writes:
>>SCAVENGER writes
>>
>>But then again isn't EVERY *NEW* hero a ripoff off of something else...?
>>
>>(some text deleted)
>>
>>Tell me of an idea that is entirely original, within RECENT memory!
>
>Tales From The Beanworld.
>
Could someone tell me how I got connected with this post?  this reads like I'm
pro-spawn or something! Iiiiick (I will get the Gaiman/Moore issues tho)

-----SCAVENGER


-- 
KAHN: And I never forget a face.  Mr. Chekov,   |  kogutt@ucsu.colorado.edu
           isn't it?                            |      (Internet/Usenet)
CHEKOV:  But, I wasn't in that episode!!!       | No matter where you go, there
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From: Hofbrau@cup.portal.com (Robert N Brauer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: What happened in Excaliber 52-53
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 03:07:16 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

Can some kind soul give me a summary of the events in Excaliber
52 and 53? I missed them and a month of searching my local shops
has failed to find them. In particular, one of the team present
at the end of 51 is now noticably absent (was that sufficiently
vague to avoid a spoiler warning?).
Thanks,
Bob Brauer       hofbrau@cup.portal.com
From: marks@castle.ed.ac.uk (Mark Steyn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: New Warriors Discussion
Date: 5 Sep 92 16:07:39 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Rebecca Drayer) writes:

>I'll start off by saying that I was a very reluctant convert to the New
>Warriors.  I only found out about this book at issue #10, and after reading
>it, I wasn't all that impressed.  However, I gave it a few more chances, and
>quickly became hooked.  I would read each issue almost before I left the
>store with it.

Me too!  I only found it around issue #15 and have since searched far
and wide for back issues (still missing #8 and #10 damn! ).
 
>I am now back to not being all that impressed.  I don't like the changes that
>have been made since issue #25.  For one thing, I don't think Fabian should
>have gotten rid of Marvel Boy.  I was looking forward to seeing the
>relationship between him and Firestar slowly deepen over time.  (BTW, does
>anyone know if there are any plans to bring him back soon?)  

From what I have seen of Fabian's work, he rarely does anything to the
Warriors without a reason.  He also has a habit of setting up plots
waaaaaay in advance.  I have little doubt that we will see a New and
Improved Marvel Boy (Man?) eventually and further romance with FireStar.
Incidentally what ever happened to the plans to change Firestars
costume?  It desparately needs updating.

>Also, I'm not thrilled with Darick Robertson's art.  I really miss 
>Bagley's pencilling.

I miss Mark too - it was a sad day when he left.  Daricks rendition of
action scenes are actually quite good but he seems to have his own idea
of how the Warriors should be drawn which is quite different from
Bagley's.  ie Nova's helmet seems a lot more spherical, Namorita seems
to resemble Spocks cousin, Firestars lips seems to have swollen, and
what on earth has done to Speedball?  I won't even mention Robertsons
obsession with teeth :-=

Still I'm sure we'll all get used to his artwork eventually :-(

>What does everyone else think?

I don't think it's time for doom and gloom yet.  Fabians writing is
pretty much consistantly good and I have high hopes for the forthcoming
Force of Nature and Darkforce Dimension storylines.

Anybody want to bet that these will also be used to set up the next
major storyline? :-)

	Mark

-- 
? As long as the youngest child is free to dream,  ? Mark Steyn :          ?
? In the forest that we call imagination,          ? marks@castle.ed.ac.uk ?
? There shall always be a Unicorn.                 ? mpjs@dcs.ed.ac.uk     ?
?              Knowledge is no virtue and Innocence no vice                ?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
From: MHANNINEN@finabo.abo.fi (Mika H{nninen Inf)
Subject: Re: Excalibur #56
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 21:00:48 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <14780@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu writes:

> In article <1685F142A9.MHART00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU> MHART00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (mason hart) writes:
> >My only concern at the moment is: how long can Davis keep up
> >with a bi-weekly schedule?  I can't bear another return to
> >gimp art, and I still have nightmares about Lobdell's writing.
> 
> 	As I understand it (so take it all with a grain of salt), Alan
> Davis will continue writing, and every couple of issues there will be
> a fill-in artist, to allow him to keep up with the art.  Ferinstance, 
> I don't believe that Davis is doing the art in the upcoming and overdue
> "What is the %$#@ing connection between Nightcrawler and Mystique?"
This is a real comic book, that is *really* going to be on shelves???
YES! I've been waiting for that one to be resolved for....um...hmmm....
a lot of years....:)

> (I'll check my Advance Comics to verify.)
> -- 
> Rick Jones				Systems Support Center
> albert@bcm.tmc.edu			Baylor College of Medicine
> Voice: 713-798-7352			standard disclaimers apply
> "I'm the Chosen One.  And I choose to go shopping."-Buffy the Vampire Slayer
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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Lois London and the xbooks
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:29:15 GMT

Hi I was ask to post this here for one of those poor souls who's sytem has yet
to get the new rac.groups. 

This has to do with the missing characters from the x-books (ie. Sarah Grey,etc)

I asked who Lois London was and got this reply:

Date: Friday, 11 September 1992 22:12 PT
To: kogutt@ucsu.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Lois London & the "xbooks"

Scavenger-

I think I told all I really know about her in my original post, but just in
case I left something out:

Lois London is Allison (Dazzler) Blair's half sister (same mom, different
dad). Dazzler learned about her sister during the last year of DAZZLER's own
book (just before it was cancelled).  Her sister was struggling with an
identity crisis of her own (Daz was juggling the idea of super-hero vs.
singing career).  Lois was 19 years old and during the final few issues, her
own mysterious mutant abilities began manifesting.  She was scared by a cat
(Daz's I think) which jumped out of the dark at Lois, who stuck out her hands
to protect herself.  In doing so her power manifested and where she touched
the cat's face it mutated it, disfiguring it so the cat could not breathe. If
I remember right, she then disposed of the cat before Allison came home (Lois
was temporarily living with Daz).  Daz never found out what happend to her
kitty.  Later, Lois was walking down a backstreet and was attacked by a
vagabond who, I think, really just wanted a handout, but she was scare and
pushed him away.  Her powers manifested again when she touched his face, which
caused it to melt and disfigure.  The man collapsed and Lois was horrified as
she watched him grope and struggle (he no longer possessed a mouth or nose,
per se), and died.  She was last shown running down a lonely dark avenue into
the night.

I wonder why Daz doen't find out whatever happend to her.

-Rich


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From: jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu (Jim Wong)
Subject: Re: Scott Lobdell is still a moron...X-Men 294 spoilers
Organization: Rice University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:41:43 GMT

In article <18k899INNk0@venture.ksu.ksu.edu> lazarus@venture.ksu.ksu.edu (Bart -Laz- Smith) writes:
>
>In article <92249.111101EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>, EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu (Ernie Oporto) writes:
>>OK...I'm going to write this as I'm reading X-Men #294.
>>Page 3, panel 2: Security parameter?  Ex-squeeze me?  Thats perimeter, you
>>    moron!
>
>No... "parameter" works...
>
Wrong.  Go check out the context; I'd be willing to bet large sums of money
that the word was supposed to be "perimeter," but either Lobdell couldn't
manage the spelling or the letterer screwed up.  The former possibility
wouldn't surprise me too much, considering we live in a country, apparently,
in which the vast majority of the citizens cannot distinguish "your" from
"you're" or spell "weird" correctly.
-- 
Jim Wong (jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu)
From: nova@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jennifer Baughman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Bishop:Too good For Xmen?
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:39:15 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

Basically, the reason the X-Men treat Bishop like a psychopath is that he
has a tendency to act like one.  That is, he overreacts _way_ too much.  I 
mean, how many times do you see an X-Man threaten to blow his own head off
in a DANGER ROOM SCENARIO?????  Bishop hasn't yet learned to temper his 
actions in this time, and so he is a danger to the group.  Not to mention, of
course, his firm belief that Gambit's gonna betray the X-Men, which doesn't do
much for team unity.  Bishop as he is is a danger to the X-Men.  At least they
have the sense to recognize this.

Arguments, anyone???  E-mail or post 'em--I love a good debate...

__NOVA__
_______________________________________________________________________________

"We ask the stars `Why?'
 We question our lot...
 The heavens open wide
 And reply, `Why not?'"
	--Henry "Beast" McCoy
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