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From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: SHARKS NEWS: Dave Snuggerud traded for Mark Pederson
Keywords: hockey, men's professional, broadcast
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 01:54:58 GMT

This afternoon, the Sharks traded right wing Dave Snuggerud to the Philadelphia
Flyers for left wing Mark Pederson.  Snuggerud, 26, had scored 9 points (4
goals, 5 assists) in 25 games for the Sharks this season.  He was acquired last
season for right wing Wayne Presley from the Buffalo Sabres, and had 19 points
(3 goals, 16 assists) in 66 games last season.  He scored 1 of those points
(an assist) with the Sharks (I am not sure how many games).

Pederson, 24, had scored 7 points (3 goals, 4 assists) in 14 games this season
for the Flyers.  He scored 40 points (15 goals, 25 assists) in 58 games last
season.  These are his stats (I don't have Hershey stats for last year):

Season	Team			GP	G	A	PIM
'84-'85	Medicine Hat (WHL)	71	42	40	63
'85-'86	Medicine Hat		72	46	60	46
'86-'87	Medicine Hat		69	56	46	58
'87-'88	Medicine Hat		62	53	58	55
'88-'89	Sherbrooke (AHL)	75	43	38	53
'89-'90	Sherbrooke		72	53	42	60
	Montreal		9	0	2	2
'90-'91	Montreal		47	8	15	18
	Philadelphia		12	2	1	5
'91-'92	Philadelphia		58	15	25	22

He had been drafted by Montreal in the first round of the 1986 draft, and was
traded to Philadelphia in '91 for a 2nd round pick.

===============================================================================
"M. C. Hamrlik: Can't Touch This Lightning."
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Luc Robitaille for Hart!
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Sandis Ozolinsh for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
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Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Stan Fischler, 12/11
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: The Bates Motel
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 06:12:30 GMT


Stan made it out to the Meadowlands tonight despite the horrid weather
in the area.  So from the Devils pregame ...

* CBS's "Street Stories" will have a two-part expose' about the NHL
pension fund in early January ...

* The new fighting rules have put some fighters off from rescuing
their higher-priced colleagues.  Todd Ewen of the Habs [a crusher 
who has become a rusher ... gld] said at his salary level being
near the celler, it's hard to become an instigator ... but he'd
feel bad if Denis Savard got hurt.

* Domi-Probert III is scheduled for January 19th ... originally
scheduled for regular TV, FOX 50 will put it on Pay-Per-View.

* Trades: Phil Housley, Frederik Olaussen or Teppo Noumennen of the
Jets will go to the Red Wings ... if it's Housley, it'll be for Bob
Probert or Keith Primeau.  Bob Murray is also interested in Neil
Wilkinson of the Sharks.

gld
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From: jrmst8+@pitt.edu (Joseph R Mcdonald)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Adams VS. Patrick again...
Date: 19 Dec 92 20:51:47 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Dec19.203612.7798@eng.umd.edu> david@eng.umd.edu (David Chi-Chung Lu) writes:
>In article <975@blue.cis.pitt.edu> jrmst8+@pitt.edu (Dean as Joseph R Mcdonald) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec14.030651.8296@wam.umd.edu> lulu@wam.umd.edu (David Chi-Chung Lu) writes:
>>>New Jersey.  I see 4 strong teams in the Patrick that should end up 
>>>pretty close together by the end of the season.  I just can't see 
>>>Pittsburgh playing this well for that long.
>>
>>Ok.  I'll bite.   Why not?  They got the two-time defending champs, 
>>the best player in the world, and the best coach to ever stand 
>>behind the bench.  Barring injury, I see about a 115-120 point season.
>
>Just a hunch.  They've never had a season anywhere close to this one.
>I mean regular season.  The Pens were just as good last year, but
>needed a last minute rush to get into the playoffs.  They turn into a 
>different team in April.  (Opposite of what the Caps and Rangers do.)
>
>Dave Lu


The main difference this season is that the Big Guy is healthy and he's
greedy for the scoring record of 215.  

The other difference is that last year they had a lot of adversity to deal
with that is not there this year.  Namely the death of their coach in 
November and the struggling to get used to Bowman's style.

The Pens are more focused this regular season.


Dean

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From: ummak027@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Anson Sen Sau Mak)
Subject: Oilers news
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Distribution: World
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 22:45:08 GMT

Does anyone post and elm Oilers news regularly? If yes, please include me
in the elm list.
My elm adderss is: ummak027@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Thanks in advance.

Anson
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From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: trade rumor
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:21:23 GMT

In article <BzGJ97.CvH.1@cs.cmu.edu> kwh@CS.CMU.EDU (Kevin Hartmann) writes:

>Okay let's put Jagr on the Stevens/Tochett line, take him off the Rookie/Loney line, and
>see what kind of 'slump' he'll be in.

See Fedyk, Brent.  Just being able to pile points up by being on a line with
great linemates doesn't mean that the player is producing.  One more: see
McSorley, Marty (while playing with Gretzky in Edmonton).
>
>Even Mario said that in a few years, Jagr will be the best player in the league.

And Mario is a prophet.  Sure.
>
>7 Game winning goals - best in the NHL isn't so bad.

By that measure (the same measure used by an obnoxious Sabres fan last year)
Donald Audette should have won the Calder last season.

===============================================================================
"M. C. Hamrlik: Can't Touch This Lightning."
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Luc Robitaille for Hart!
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Sandis Ozolinsh for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
From: stud7b43@bmerh937.bnr.ca (Mike Squance)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: HELP QUICK - Geoff Courtnall
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:12:47 GMT
Reply-To: newuser@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada


Could someone please tell me how many points Geoff Courtnall (Canucks)
has?

Much appreciated.
		 		
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  stud7b43@bnr.ca          
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From: John_Carson@mindlink.bc.ca (John Carson)
Subject: Re: Lindros injury/Flyers Lie
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:04:54 GMT

> Darrell Haught writes:
>
> I consider myself a Flyers fan but am pretty pissed off @the management
> on the Lindros injury. When Eric first got injured that said he would
> only be out for a week-10 days. That was on Nov. 22 and he still is not
> playing. Does anybody else think that they knew he would be out longer
> but considering Eric is the Flyers main attraction they would just say
> hey he will be in next game. Any and all Opinions I would like to here
> on this matter.
>


Does the time away have anything to do with all these LEGAL matters. I agree
if he is out fine but tell us what the approx time. I can except a clarified
announcement after a few days after the injury.


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From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: NHL on ... Disney Channel???
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:37:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: HMS

In article <1992Dec11.184951.5331@news.columbia.edu> gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
>
>that if the ESPN deal bombs (note to PPV Mark ... what are the latest
>numbers?) and they're looking for a new outlet, Disney's got it ...

ESPN's(61 million subscribers) numbers thru October and November are 
flat - 1.0 share nationally. No real improvement since its last pact.
By comparion, NBA regular season game on TNT(40 million subscribers) pulls an
average of 5.0 share with fewer subscribers than ESPN.

I have no doubt that arrival of Mr.Gary Bettman to NHL from NBA is very
much related to forming a credible TV pact and exposure for its star
players on this side of the border(Eric Lindros on Arsenio; Mario on
Letterman and so on). By the way Bettman has already pretty much secured NBA's
new NBA deal with NBC and TNT for another few years. Also,there's high
indication that NBC will have an inside track to TV rights to Atlanta Summer
Games in '96,because NBA will definetely come out with Dream Team II
concept. TNT,not PPV(who am I gonna flame in '96?) will provide non-NBC
coverage for 1996 Summer games. TNT will also televise all non-CBS
1994 Winter Games action which include ALOT of hockey.

-PPV Mark
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From: J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: 1995 All-Star Game awarded to San Jose
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 18:12:52 GMT


   The city of San Jose has, as expected, been awarded the 1995 All-Star Game.
This completes a large-scale, top-notch lobbying effort by the city and the
San Jose Sharks.  The game will be held in the new arena which is scheduled
for completion late next summer (and is still nameless).
   Being a San Jose resident, I am extremely excited about this.  We'll finally
get to see some decent hockey here in San Jose!  Of course, maybe by then the
Sharks will be a 70-point hockey team (since they'll probably get to play
the Disneyland Ducks (tm) seven times or more).  In any case, we're not used
to seeing a live hockey game where there are two good teams on the ice.
   There are some questions, though.  Recently the Sharks have had trouble
selling out the 11,000-seat Cow Palace (a 3-13 home record will do that).  How
will the attendance be in the new 18,000-seat arena?  Will there still be
enough interest in hockey by 1995 to make it work?  This area is crawling with
bandwagon jumpers; there was no such thing as a 49ers fan before 1981.  And
unless the Sharks show signs of improvement, hockey may become a joke in an
area like this.  I'm excited about it, though.


Tim Irvin
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From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: Attendance in Tampa (Re: The Anaheim Mice...)
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 11:03:21 GMT

dtokarew@tokafew.Doc.Provo.Novell.COM (Deb Tokarewich) wrote:
>Just out of curiosity, how many does Tampa's facility hold and how many  
>are they drawing, on average, so far?  (And do you think the numbers will  
>dwindle when the "novelty" of it all wears off?)

Attendance figures are below. Dates, day-of-the-week, team, and *=on TV are
also shown. Number of sellouts in ().

10/ 7: Wed Chi * 10,425 (1)
10/20: Tue Edm    9,114
10/22: Thu Tor    9,344
10/24: Sat Que    9,528
10/30: Fri SJ  *  8,706
11/ 1: Sun Pit * 10,425 (2)
11/ 3: Tue StL *  8,452
11/11: Wed Det   10,425 (3)
11/13: Fri Ott * 10,425 (4)
11/14: Sat Cal   10,425 (5)
11/17: Tue Win    8,062
11/20: Thu Min    9,278
12/ 5: Sat Det * 10,425 (6)
12/ 7: Mon NYI    9,649
12/11: Fri NYR   10,425 (7)
12/12: Sat Edm * 10,425 (8)

The thing I find odd is that the team was 2-3-1 when they first played Edm and
there was no sellout (no TV either). They were 10-19-2 with a 6-game losing
streak, a 6-game home losing streak, and one win in the last 12, yet it was a
sellout with the game on TV. I don't think any novelty is involved here. People
went to see the Orlando Magic because there are tons of NBA games on TV and
people could get an idea of what they were in for because the NBA was already
well promoted. That's not happening with hockey.

The few times I've been to games, I've seen lots of fans wearing other team
jerseys (not just the opposing team): Vancouver, Quebec, Montreal, tons of
Detroit, tons of NY Rangers, Bruins. These people bring new fans (you can tell
when they kind of just sit there). I don't think a group of non-hockey fans
just decide to go watch hockey (yet!). Finally, if I remember correctly, Tampa
has one of the highest average ticket prices.

You can make your own conclusions. The average net poster has already doomed
the franchise.

Tom
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From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: Expansion note: games played between Tampa and Miami
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 05:48:40 GMT

Excerpt from a local paper article:

If South Florida [Miami] is able to join the league in time for next season,
it likely would join Tampa in the Norris Division. Even if the Lightning and
South Florida somehow landed in different divisions, the league has agreed to
match the teams against one another eight times a season.

Tom
From: shindle@ocf.berkeley.edu (Richard Michael Shindle)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: TV Coverage
Date: 19 Dec 1992 07:17:16 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: planecrash.berkeley.edu

I'm going to bitch here for a second. TV sports cioverage of hockey in
this area SUCKS. None of the channels around here (2,4,5,7) ever broadcast
the hockey scores at night. Maybe the Sharks, but rarely do I see any
coverage. What, does the Bay Area believe that there are no hockey fans in
this area and shouldn't give the scores. It's not like they don't have
enough time? Channel 2 does these 'Check This Out' spots, why not give the
damn scores. Also, did anyone see the Good Sports when they talked about
Hockey. Only one of the sporstwriters, ratto, got icing right. Okay, if
they were discussing cricket, I can understand, but hockey? Yo guys, this
is a real sport, learn something about the game.

I'm done.
Thanks

Mike

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From: kdc@ccu.umanitoba.ca ()
Subject: "Golden Jet" Security
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:34:39 GMT


 
This item was in the lastest issue of Canadian Security:
 
 "NHL veteran and Hockey Hall of Fame member Bobby Hull has agreed
  to serve as national spokesperson for Alliance Security Systems,
  Cambridge, ON.  The company is developing a Golden Jet line of
  security systems to be endorsed by Hull in person and on promotional
  videos."
 
 
 Ken D.   U of Manitoba

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From: harrison@mpr.ca (Jeff Harrison)
Subject: The Expansion 
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 17:21:56 GMT

Okay, read my lips... :-)

The Anaheim team will NOT be named the "Mighty Ducks". That was just
a working name used as reference to the future team. Apparently the
media took it a little too seriously. So, stop your worrying. It may not
seem like it at times, but the league is run by [b|m]illionares who aren't,
as they say, "mentally challenged".
It would be fun though to add noun modifiers to each teams name.
I kinda like the sound of the "Chicago Panda Bears". Seems to fit, don't
ya think.

The "Crashing & Bashing Canucks"
The "Fighting Canucks"
The "Falling Maple Leafs"
The "Sputtering Flames"
etc.

As an aside, I vote for the "Miami Vice".

Jeff
From: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Hot Pens Trade Rumor
Date: 18 Dec 1992 03:57:18 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico) says:

>Just heard this rumor.  Sounds pretty interesting.
>
>Bob Probert, Steve Yzerman and Vincent Riendeau to Pgh. for Jagr, Stanton and
>Wregget.  Then the Pens trade Yzerman to Winnipeg for Housley.
>
>I like it.  It's probably not true, though.
>
>Lori
>

After being in Ann Arbor for long enough, I have a feeling that if
Yzerman was traded, there would be a stink, but a lot more people would
be happy than mad.  But, if probert was traded, all hell would break
loose.

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University of Michigan Class of 1996
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From: stud7b43@bmerh925.bnr.ca (Mike Squance)
Subject: Re: Why Wayne should NOT return (Kindling)
Reply-To: newuser@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 17:17:46 GMT


In article <1gsp64INN31c@fnnews.fnal.gov>, jeffk@cdibm.fnal.gov (Dr. J) writes:
|> I'm sort of tiring of the Penguin drivel, so I offer some holiday
cheer.  Get 
|> those blow torches ready.  Here's why the Great One should
concentrate on Janet 
|> & the kids and his new career as an entrepeneur.
|> 
|> 1. The Kings are having a great year anyway (attendance-wise and
hockey-wise). 
|>    I guess it's possible for him to make a significant contribution, but it 
|>    seems unlikely to me.
|> 
	You might be right.

|> 2. He could be risking serious injury.
|> 
	Yup.

|> 3. He has nothing left to accomplish, and certainly nothing to prove.
|> 
	I agree he has nothing to prove to hockey fans. I know as an athlete
	of a lesser kind that I would not want to an a career such as his
	(second to none) with an injury. He probably has something to prove
	to himself.

	He's got something to accomplish - winning a Stanley Cup with the 
	L.A. Kings. Whether its worth the risk, I don't know. I'd say that
	there would only be one better way for him to finish his career than
	winning the Cup with L.A. (winning it with the Oilers again...)

|> 4. There is some risk of him becoming a cartoon.  At one point during last
|>    season (Februaru or so), 1/3 of his goals were empty-netters (8 of 23, I 
|>    think).  This is preposterous for a man who is not only the
greatest player
|>    ever, but has always been synonomous with "Class".  Time to let it
go, Wayne.
|>    It's been terrific, but we have Mario, Jeremy, Sakic, et. al.
	
	Mario, Jeremy, Sakic, et. al are great but they aren't the Great One.
		 		
Mike
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From: tiok_jk@tac.fi (Juha Koivisto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: FINLAND - CANADA, December 12-13, RESULTS, Olympic teams
Date: 14 Dec 92 00:20:54 +0200
Organization: City of Tampere

Rovaniemi, Finland, December 12, 1992:

Finnish Olympic Team - Canada's National Hockey Team  5-4  (1-0, 1-3, 3-1)

Oulu, Finland, December 13, 1992:

Finnish Olympic Team - Canada's National Hockey Team  3-1  (1-1, 1-0, 1-0)

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Saturday, December 12th, 1992, Rovaniemi, Finland:

Finnish Olympic Team - Canada's National Hockey Team
                   5 - 4  (1-0, 1-3, 3-1)
1. period:
  3.41  2 min  Ken Lovsin CAN
  9.50  2 min  Timo Nykopp FIN
 12.18  2 min  Hank Lammens CAN 
 14.37  2 min  Lovsin CAN 
 18.13   1-0   Toni Sihvonen (Niko Marttila - Marko Jantunen) 
2. period:
 24.25  2 min  Pasi Maattanen FIN 
 26.27   1-1   Derek Mayer (Brad Werenka - Jackson Penney) 
 28.19   1-2   Dominic Amodeo (Hank Lammens) 
 30.35  2 min  Penney CAN 
 35.22  2 min  Eric Bellerose CAN 
 35.38  2 min  Allain Roy CAN 
 35.53  2 min  Lehtera FIN 
 36.08   1-3   Greg Johnson 
 37.45 2+2 min Lammens CAN 
 39.27   2-3   Tero Lehtera (Olli Kaski)  (pp)
3. period:
 45.28   3-3   Lehtera (Tommi Varjonen - Juha Ylonen)  (pp)
 49.19   4-3   Harri Suvanto (Jantunen - Sihvonen) 
 50.59   5-3   Valeri Krykov (Jari Laukkanen - Timo Nykopp) 
 56.22   5-4   Trevor Sim (Todd Hlushko - Amodeo) 

Penalties:  Finland 3 x 2 min, Canada 8 x 2 min
Saves:      Mika Rautio FIN 4+6+12=22
            Jason Muzzatti CAN 7+4+(0)=11 (change 30.03)
            Allain Roy CAN (0)+7+14=21
Referees:   Teemu Kaukonen (Pekka Kivinen - Jukka Koivu)
Attendance: 1 126
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Sunday, December 13, 1992, Oulu, Finland:

Finnish Olympic Team - Canada's National Hockey Team
                   3 - 1  (1-1, 1-0, 1-0)
1. period:
  7.08   1-0   Valeri Krykov 
 12.29  2 min  Kari-Pekka Friman FIN
 13.28   1-1   Hank Lammens (Greg Johnson - Jackson Penney)  (pp)
 15.15  2 min  Derek Laxdal CAN
2. period:
 22.18  2 min  Toni Sihvonen FIN 
 27.49  2 min  Sihvonen FIN
 27.49  2 min  Dominic Amodeo CAN 
 36.25   2-1   Joni Lius (Jokke Heinanen - Kari-Pekka Friman) 
 38.07 2+2 min Harri Suvanto FIN 
 38.07 2+2 min Eric Bellerose CAN
 38.07  2 min  Stephane Roy CAN
 38.31  2 min  Lius FIN 
3. period:
 47.32 2+2 min Mike Brewer CAN 
 50.54   3-1   Krykov (Timo Nykopp)  (pp)

Penalties:  Finland 6 x 2 min, Canada 7 x 2 min
Saves:      Iiro Itamies FIN 10+11+11=32
            Jason Muzzatti CAN 11+10+7=28 (out 59.19-60.00)
Referees:   Kari Nieminen (Pertti Lundberg - Miikka Makela)
Attendance: 2 182
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: trade rumor
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:35:36 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.181801.7810@bmerh85.bnr.ca> wizz@bnr.ca (Boris Volk) writes:
>
> It's absolutly amazing that anybody could judge Jagr to be of comparable value
>to Brett Hull. I realize that most Penguin fans have trouble with this, but
>then again they have a fairly myopic view of hockey in general.
>

Nolan, Nedved, and Ricci are all playing better than Jagr this year...
...patience sometimes is worthwhile...and are becoming much more
valuable players, because their games are becoming much more complete...
Jagr basically is still the same one-dimensional player he was two years
ago, and his overall play has not improved.  He has more raw talent to
work with, but he basically has stagnated as a player after his early
success.  I'd rather of any one of the other three now...just a personal
opinion.

Gerald