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From: dave@ips.oz.au (Dave Horsfall)
Subject: Daily IPS Report - 11 Sep 92
Organization: IPS Radio and Space Services.  Sydney, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 11:30:36 GMT

IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES AUSTRALIA
Daily Solar And Geophysical Report
Issued at 2330 UT 10 September 1992
Summary for 10 September and Forecast up to 13 September
IPS Warning No. 24 will be issued today.
-----------------------------------------------------------

1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: moderate

Flares  Max   Fadeout   Begin   End   Freq.   Sectors
M3      2256  confirmed 2255    2305  lower   West Pacific

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 117/068

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             11 September       12 September       13 September
Activity     Moderate           Low to moderate    Low to moderate
Fadeouts     Possible           None expected      None expected

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 115/066

1C. SOLAR COMMENT
None.
-----------------------------------------------------------

2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth : unsettled to active, apart from a
period of minor storm levels from 15-18UT.

Estimated Indices : A   K
    Sydney          --  ---- ----
    Learmonth       21  4234 3542
    Fredericksburg  55
    Planetary       88

2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
Geomagnetic field at Sydney : active
Ap :  40

2C. MAGNETIC COMMENT
None.

3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
Propagation conditions :         
Low Lats: fair.
Mid Lats: fair to poor.
High Lats: poor.
PCA Event : None.
3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
Propagation conditions are expected to remain fair to poor at low
and mid lats, and poor at high lats.
3C. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION COMMENT
None.

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4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
MUF's at Sydney were depressed 20 to 40%

Observed Sydney Regional Ionospheric Index :  29

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
          11 September       12 September       13 September
MUFs depressed 20-40%/normal near normal    depressed 15-30%
T index    40                 60                 50

Predicted Monthly Ionospheric Index for September is 90.

4C. AUSTRALIAN REGION COMMENT
None.

-- 
Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)         VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC
dave@ips.OZ.AU                  ...munnari!ips.OZ.AU!dave
Newsgroups: aus.radio
From: dave@ips.oz.au (Dave Horsfall)
Subject: Daily IPS Report -  9 Sep 92
Organization: IPS Radio and Space Services.  Sydney, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 00:18:17 GMT

IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES AUSTRALIA
Daily Solar And Geophysical Report
Issued at 2330 UT 8 September 1992
Summary for 8 September and Forecast up to 11 September
No IPS warning is current.
-----------------------------------------------------------

1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: moderate

Flares    Max     Fadeout    Begin   End    Freq.  Sectors
 M2/1B 07/2306UT  Confirmed  2259    2321    lower  West Pacific
 M1/SF    1928UT    none
 M3/1B 07/2111UT  possible                  lower  East Pacific/
                                                   North American
 M2/SN    1208UT  possible                  lower  European

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 129/081

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             09 September       10 September       11 September
Activity     Moderate           Moderate           Moderate
Fadeouts     Probable           Probable           Probable

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 125/077

1C. SOLAR COMMENT
One of the currently flaring regions will rotate around the
west limb of the sun within two days.
-----------------------------------------------------------

2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Sydney : quiet to unsettled

Estimated Indices : A   K
    Sydney          --  ---- ----
    Learmonth       07  1132 3221
    Fredericksburg  21
    Planetary       20

2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
Geomagnetic field at Sydney : unsettled to active
Ap :  20

2C. MAGNETIC COMMENT
Anticipated geomagnetic storming did not eventuate. A brief period
of minor storming was observed in the northern hemisphere.

3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
Propagation conditions :         
Low Lats: Normal-Fair.
Mid Lats: Fair.
High Lats: Fair.
PCA Event : None.
3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
Propagation conditions are expected to be fair.
3C. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION COMMENT
Anticipated depressions did not eventuate, however degraded
conditions were experienced on some circuits.

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4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
MUF's at Sydney were near normal

Observed Sydney Regional Ionospheric Index :  69

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
          09 September       10 September       11 September
MUFs      near normal        near normal        near normal
T index    70                 70                 70

Predicted Monthly Ionospheric Index for September is 90.

4C. AUSTRALIAN REGION COMMENT
Forecast ionospheric depressions were not observed as anticipated
geomagnetic storming did not eventuate.

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Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)         VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC
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From: richardm@runx.oz.au (Richard Murnane)
Subject: Re: WICEN again
Organization: RUNX Un*x Timeshare.  Sydney, Australia.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 10:58:31 GMT

In article <terryd.715239851@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU> terryd@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Terry Dawson) writes:
>richardm@runx.oz.au (Richard Murnane) writes:
>
>>>> too many to bother about typing up ..
>>Well, how the hell are we going to find out about them then?  If you can't
>>spare the time to tell the ideas, where are you going to find the time
>>to develop them. Put another way, let's see you put your money where your
>>mouth is, Terry!
>
>Ahhh .. I see .. not interested enough in my ideas to tell me when/where the
>next meeting will be held! sad.
I *might* be interested if you'd tell me what they are Terry. Ideas don't
necessarily improve with the keeping.

>The key word was 'typing' Richard.
You can tell us about them by 'typing' them right here, can't you? It doesn't
need to be the full unexpurgated details...

Next meeting is on Tuesday evening, 8:30pm, 3615 kHz LSB, or on Thursday
evenings at 9:30 pm on 147.150 MHz FM (Chatswood repeater). Every week.
Ok?

73 de Richard VK2SKY

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From: dave@ips.oz.au (Dave Horsfall)
Newsgroups: aus.radio
Subject: Daily IPS Report -  6 Sep 92
Date: 6 Sep 92 23:53:22 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: IPS Radio and Space Services.  Sydney, Australia.

IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES AUSTRALIA
Daily Solar And Geophysical Report
Issued at 2330 UT 5 September 1992
Summary for 5 September and Forecast up to 8 September
No IPS warning is current.
-----------------------------------------------------------

1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: moderate

Flares    Max     Fadeout    Begin     End        Freq.  Sectors
 M2/SB 04/2352UT  Confirmed  04/2349   05/0000UT  lower  West Pacific
 M4/1N    1132UT  possible                        lower  European
 M1/SN    1624UT    none

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 119/070

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             06 September       07 September       08 September
Activity     Moderate           Moderate           Moderate
Fadeouts     Possible           Possible           Possible

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 120/071

1C. SOLAR COMMENT
Above flares originated from same solar region showing growth.
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2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth : quiet to active

Estimated Indices : A   K
    Sydney          --  ---- ----
    Learmonth       11  1343 2222
    Fredericksburg  25
    Planetary       30

2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
Geomagnetic field at Sydney : unsettled
Ap :  15

2C. MAGNETIC COMMENT
None.

3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
Propagation conditions :         
Low Lats: Fair-Normal.
Mid Lats: Fair-Normal.
High Lats: Poor.
PCA Event : None.
3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
Propagation conditions are expected to be normal at low and
mid lats. Continued magnetic activity at high lats has
degraded polar HF circuits, expecting improving conditions
for polar HF comms for today.
3C. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION COMMENT
None.

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4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
MUF's at Sydney were depressed 15 to 20%

Observed Sydney Regional Ionospheric Index :  55

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
          06 September       07 September       08 September
MUFs      depressed about 15% near normal        near normal
T index    65                 70                 70

Predicted Monthly Ionospheric Index for September is 90.

4C. AUSTRALIAN REGION COMMENT
None.

-- 
Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)         VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC
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From: terryd@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Terry Dawson)
Subject: Re: VK2WI Broadcast, Sunday 30th August, 1992
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 22:46:36 GMT

richardm@runx.oz.au (Richard Murnane) writes:

>Ok, Terry, that's a fair cop! :-) To be fair, there were also some written
>submissions from those who didn't want to travel into Sydney, as well as
>some on packet. But you're right: it wasn't an immense turn-out. It's our

True, Terry didn't exactly detail how many of those there were, or what they
suggested .. :-(

>bad luck to have a hobby populated with a large number of people who expect
>the WIA to hand them everything on a plate. They won't join the WIA or get
>involved in any of the work it takes to run the show, but you'll certainly
>hear them on air whining about how the WIA don't do this, and the WIA
>ought to do that...

But it didn't used to be like that .. when I originally joined the WIA in
81 ? 82 ? sometime about then .. it wasn't like that, it was well represented,
it was only when it decided that it should be the self-regulating body that
people began steering away from it ..

>As you know, Terry, I had to leave early. How many volunteers did YOU
>see put their hands up?

You mean aside from me ? Um, well there was that guy that volunteered for
the repeater committee, and that other guy that was happy to organise the
12(?)m dish .. Then there was of course Ashley vk2xso who volunteered heaps
of ideas, at least a few of which I thought were great .. and I'm sure Ashley
will assist in any packet movement that takes place .. Mostly what I heard
were a contingent of 'devout' members behind my right shoulder muttering under
their breath how "it'll never work", "They're just talking, they wont do
anything" etc .. Now there is loyal membership if ever there was some.
The real issue was the very one that was swept under the carpet every time it
was brought up .. and that is one of credibility .. Terry didn't want to discussthat one ..

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a knocker .. but I've been involved in enough
groups to realise that better a dead one, than one moving in the wrong
direction.


>Never mind, I have a feeling there'll be other forums in the near future,
>hopefully on-air as well as at Parramatta. Hopefully more people will get
>the message...

I hope so too .. I hope that people will realise that they really do have to
do what they want to make what they want happen ..

Terry

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From: richardm@runx.oz.au (Richard Murnane)
Subject: Re: Where ARA the volunteers? (was Re: VK2WI Broadcast, etc.)
Organization: RUNX Un*x Timeshare.  Sydney, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 06:28:48 GMT

Whoops! Freudian slip in the Subject line - it should be "Where *ARE*
the volunteers?"...

73 de Richard VK2SKY

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Internet: richardm@runx.oz.au          I want to make anything up? Life's bad
UUCP:     uunet!runx.oz.au!richardm    enough without inventing more of it."
Packet:   VK2SKY @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC   - Marvin the Paranoid Android
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From: ycomputr@runx.oz.au (Mark Cheeseman)
Subject: Re: What's Sam up to now?
Organization: Your Computer Magazine, Sydney, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 00:05:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.111727.1237@runx.oz.au> richardm@runx.oz.au (Richard Murnane) writes:

>This sort of garbage does nothing for amateurs. I wonder if this was a
>leftover filler from the RFB thing six months ago. The author's name
>(Shelli-Anne Couch) sounds familiar...
>
Perhaps she writes for Choice too :-)

-Mark


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From: dave@ips.oz.au (Dave Horsfall)
Subject: Daily IPS Report - 10 Sep 92
Organization: IPS Radio and Space Services.  Sydney, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 11:30:36 GMT

IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES AUSTRALIA
Daily Solar And Geophysical Report
Issued at 2330 UT 9 September 1992
Summary for 9 September and Forecast up to 12 September
IPS Warning No. 23 will be issued later today.
-----------------------------------------------------------

1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: moderate

Flares  Max      Fadeout   Begin   End    Freq.    Sectors
M1/SF   1803UT   none
M3      0213     Confirmed 0209    0240   lower    East Asia/Australia


Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 117/68

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             10 September       11 September       12 September
Activity     Moderate           Moderate           Moderate
Fadeouts     Possible           Possible           Possible

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 115/66

1C. SOLAR COMMENT
Activity is expected to decline over the next two days.
-----------------------------------------------------------

2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Sydney : active to minor storm levels following
a sudden commencement at 0142 UT.

Estimated Indices : A   K
    Sydney          --  ---- ----
    Learmonth       49  5457 5444
    Fredericksburg  52
    Planetary       85

2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
Geomagnetic field at Sydney : active to minor storm
Ap :  40

2C. MAGNETIC COMMENT
None.

3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
Propagation conditions :         
Low Lats: poor to good
Mid Lats: poor to good
High Lats: poor to fair
PCA Event : None.
3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
Propagation conditions are expected to be poor to fair at low
and mid lats, and poor at high lats.
3C. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION COMMENT
None.

-----------------------------------------------------------

4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
MUF's at Sydney were near normal 00-11 UT, 30-50% depressed 12-22 UT,
and 15% depressed 23 UT.

Observed Sydney Regional Ionospheric Index :  58

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
          10 September       11 September       12 September
MUFs depressed 15-30%/normal near normal        near normal
T index    50                 70                 70

Predicted Monthly Ionospheric Index for September is 90.

4C. AUSTRALIAN REGION COMMENT
Propagation conditions appeared very poor at times during local
night.

-- 
Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)         VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC
dave@ips.OZ.AU                  ...munnari!ips.OZ.AU!dave
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From: wkt@rodos1.cs.adfa.oz.au (Warren Toomey)
Subject: Re: Summary of CAPRG technical day
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:18:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.035150.14855@runx.oz.au>, ycomputr@runx.oz.au (Mark Cheeseman) writes:
|> >We have 10 copies left over from the technical symposium. You can obtain these
|> >from CAPRG by sending them $2 plus P&P, which should cover the cost of the
|> >photocopying etc. We will make more copies if/as the demand warrants it.
|> >
|> How much P&P should one send -- how much does it all weigh? Or how many pages
|> are there?

Oh, I'd say 20-30 pages. I'd send them $5 which should cover postage.

Cheers,


  Warren Toomey VK1XWT, on the path to insanity
  No longer in the bowels of ADFA Comp Science.
   `Version 7 Job Control: just use ptrace(2).'
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From: ycomputr@runx.oz.au (Mark Cheeseman)
Subject: Re: Summary of CAPRG technical day
Organization: Your Computer Magazine, Sydney, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 03:51:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.015057.7298@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au> wkt@graphics0.cs.adfa.oz.au (Warren Toomey) writes:
>
>We have 10 copies left over from the technical symposium. You can obtain these
>from CAPRG by sending them $2 plus P&P, which should cover the cost of the
>photocopying etc. We will make more copies if/as the demand warrants it.
>
How much P&P should one send -- how much does it all weigh? Or how many pages
are there?

Regards,
Mark


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From: steve@fawlty.towers.oz.au (Steve Blanche)
Subject: Re: Proposal to ACT WIA Div re Broadcast Service.
Reply-To: steve@fawlty.towers.oz.au (Steve Blanche)
Organization: Tower Technology, Sydney
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 03:40:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.063424.3596@ips.oz.au> dave@ips.oz.au (Dave Horsfall) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.000437.333@hhcs.gov.au>
>    makinc@hhcs.gov.au (Carl Makin) writes:
>
>>Fine! :-)  I'm going to have to field just these sort of questions
>>anyway.
>
>OK.  Here's one more - if you use the VK1 alternate beacon frequency of
>144.415, that's a mere 5 kHz from VK2's primary beacon.  Don't you dare
>put FM on it :-)
>
I dont see a problem Dave, we are already suffering in Sydney, with
the Paging service sharing 144.000 to 147.999 with us amateurs !! so
how does a little squeak from a beacon in VK1 affect us ?   hihi

(bit's deleted)
>
>A banana for the first person to tell me what our 10m beacon is saying
>(on 28.262 MHz) - I hope I programmed it right :-)
>
I know, it says:  VK2RSY blah blah blah blah

de steve

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From: wkt@graphics0.cs.adfa.oz.au (Warren Toomey)
Subject: Re: Summary of CAPRG technical day
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 08:33:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.3596@ips.oz.au>, dave@ips.oz.au (Dave Horsfall) writes: 
|> 
|> I was intending to come along, but couldn't attend at the last minute.
|> Can you (or someone) post a summary of the symposium, or print it
|> in AR?  Oh, all right, ARA as well :-)
|> 
|> -- 
|> Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)

I will suggest this tomorrow at the monthly meeting. I'll also try to get
the papers available via ftp and/or packet bulletins. Some articles will
appear in AR eventually (like mine).

Cheers,
	Warren vk1xwt.
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From: dave@ips.oz.au (Dave Horsfall)
Subject: Re: Proposal to ACT WIA Div re Broadcast Service.
Organization: IPS Radio and Space Services.  Sydney, Australia.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 06:34:24 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.000437.333@hhcs.gov.au>
    makinc@hhcs.gov.au (Carl Makin) writes:

>Fine! :-)  I'm going to have to field just these sort of questions
>anyway.

OK.  Here's one more - if you use the VK1 alternate beacon frequency of
144.415, that's a mere 5 kHz from VK2's primary beacon.  Don't you dare
put FM on it :-)

Actually, the reason I'm being "picky" is not to give you practice in
answering sticky questions (although you may need it), but to gather
ammunition against our own "experts" in VK2.  It seems that some hitherto-
unknown committee has decided it doesn't like the little messages I place
on the VK2 beacons (it's just an EPROM change), promoting events such as
special WIA callsigns in use, despite the fact that it gains some
publicity.  Their objection is that it disturbs the automatic propagation
recorders, that look at the carrier strength etc.  Now, last I looked,
FSK is a constant-envelope mode (except for infinitesimal sidebands produced
as the carrier shifts by 800 Hz or so), so it shouldn't upset anything.

By the way, the 10m beacon is CW (ICW actually - Ed.) but an integrator
with a suitable time constant will fix that - they have to tolerate the
ident every 30 seconds anyway.

A banana for the first person to tell me what our 10m beacon is saying
(on 28.262 MHz) - I hope I programmed it right :-)

>I'm giving a short talk on the broadcast idea at the symposium
>this weekend.  Apparently Kevin, vk1ok has been receiving a few
>questions about it! 

I was intending to come along, but couldn't attend at the last minute.
Can you (or someone) post a summary of the symposium, or print it
in AR?  Oh, all right, ARA as well :-)

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From: wkt@graphics0.cs.adfa.oz.au (Warren Toomey)
Subject: Re: Summary of CAPRG technical day
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 01:50:57 GMT

Previously I wrote (about making the CAPRG tech symposium papers available):
|> I will suggest this tomorrow at the monthly meeting. I'll also try to get
|> the papers available via ftp and/or packet bulletins. Some articles will
|> appear in AR eventually (like mine).

We have 10 copies left over from the technical symposium. You can obtain these
from CAPRG by sending them $2 plus P&P, which should cover the cost of the
photocopying etc. We will make more copies if/as the demand warrants it.

Sorry I don't have CAPRG's postal address; you could also try VK1OK Kevin's
address out of the Callbook.

We did video all the talks, and will get around to a) editing them down onto
one tape, and b) making the tape available (for a price as yet undetermined)
to all & sundry. Details as they come to hand here....

Finally, I pushed for a summary of the day to appear in AR, most likely in the
Forward Bias section (which has been a bit quiet of late). Someone else has to
write it of course -- as Carl vk1kcm mentioned, we only got to our own
presentations.

Some of the papers presented WILL appear in AR.

Hope this is of use!

	Warren vk1xwt