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Reply-To:     TRUTH -- Geof Peters -- <TRUTH@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
From:         TRUTH -- Geof Peters -- <TRUTH@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
Subject:      PM List support documents, MAC USERS

I have been keeping all of the support documents for the Pagemaker
list on SCRIBE.UWYO.EDU and open for anonymous FTP. Before, I stored
the files as a .ZIP file. I have just created a .SIT version of the
file for you Mac users.

I am new to the communication area for the Macs, so please do not
send me nasty letters telling me I did it wrong. Could someone test
it out? Does anyone have a suggestion for a straight text reader?
TeachText can not handle the size of the FAQ.FAQ file.

Enjoy!

Geof.
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:43:36 -0400
Reply-To:     "Roger Myers 'MYERS@AB.WVNET.EDU'" <MYERS@AB.WVNET.EDU>
From:         "Roger Myers 'MYERS@AB.WVNET.EDU'" <MYERS@AB.WVNET.EDU>
Subject:      PM for OS/2?

I was wondering if any of you PM users out there have read any more about
the PageMaker version for OS/2?  Is it keeping up with the Windows version?
My wife runs a small print shop out of our home and uses PM on her 386 under
Windows and we are considering upgrading everything to a much faster 486
with at least 8 MB of ram and I would kind of like to get OS/2 but not
if it would mean her business would suffer for lack of speed.  Currently
we have PM version 3.0 and Windows version 3.0 and DOS 3.3 and a 20 MHz
computer.  The new one comes with DOS 5.0, Windows 3.1, and we would be
upgrading to PM version 4.0 (or the latest).
We would like to optimize our computer to get the best performance out of
PM and Corel Draw and I like OS/2 for its ability to multitask.

                        Roger

Internet address:  MYERS@AB.WVNET.EDU

Mailing address:  Roger Myers  Route 3 Box 269-D  Philippi, WV  26416
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:57:46 CDT
Reply-To:     Rick Johnson <96942392@UWWVAX.UWW.EDU>
From:         Rick Johnson <96942392@UWWVAX.UWW.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Windows screen-capture

Here are two ways to capture Windows (I used Windows 3.1).

1.  Press PRINTSCR by itself.  This will paste the whole graphical display
    into the clipboard.  You can then paste it into PageMaker or
    within a program the can export a file that is compatible with the Mac.

2.  Press ALT-PRINTSCR whill do the same as above, except it will only
    paste the current active window.

I do not know if you can just take a IBM PageMaker file and transfer it
over to the Mac.  Hope this helps!!!

Rick Johnson
96942392@UWWVAX.UWW.EDU
University of Wisconsin-Whitewater
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From:         RATUNIL@NYUACF.BITNET
Subject:      Quark Xpress -> PageMaker

Our ad dept. created a Quark file for us which we don't have the fonts for.
 We'd like to be able to print the file out in different size percentages
to our varityper from our machines since the ad dept. isn't on the LAN.

Is there anway of converting this file into some sort of graphic that can
be placed into PageMaker or Quark? The file seems to lose the font info
when saved as an EPS file.

Is there anyway of saving it as straight postscript?  Does anybody have a
workaround?  I'm not really all that familiar with Quark.

Thanks in advance.
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Reply-To:     Jeff Bone <JBONE@DOPIG.UAB.EDU>
From:         Jeff Bone <JBONE@DOPIG.UAB.EDU>
Subject:      Rotated eps graphics on pc

Greg writes...

> I read a piece of mail the other week about some one having problems with
> an EPS graphic that was print rotated 270 degrees out of place.  I even
> I even thought to save that article.  But as usual it go deleted.  So I
> am in need of information to correct this problem because it just happend
> to me.  It prints fine on Mac but, when transfered to IBM the images printed
> as if the page was rotated 180 after the text was printed.  Instead of the
> images being on the left where they are supposed to be. They show up on the
> right and up side down.  Need help as soon as possible.


Open your WIN.INI file with your favorite text editor and search the file for
the [Printer,Port] section where "Printer" is the name of your installed
printer and "Port" is the proper output port.  (While you're there you might
as well change this in all your PostScript printers).  Then add the line:

LandScapeOrient=270

example:

[Apple LaserWriter IINTX, LPT1]
 LandScapeOrient=270




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From: bruehler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim Bruehler)
Subject: styles with asterisks
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:55:39 GMT

Would anyone tell me why pagemaker sometimes appends and asterisk to stylenames.I've seen it add a plus sign many times, but this asterisk is new to me.

We're working on a 386-33 with Dos 5.0 and Win 3.1.  A file was causing many 
internal error messages so we tried importing it in the hope that the import 
filter would cleanse out the problem.  It then added superscripted asterisks
to some of our styles.  

Also, it didn't work. We still get the application error.

Part of the problem may be that the DGIS driver is a beta, but we need to go 
high resolution and I can't find a newer driver.  Any ideas?

Thanks all for any help. (I wanted to check FAQ but I don't know how. Sorry 
if this is already in there.) 

Jim Bruehler


 
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 10:37:58 EDT
Reply-To:     Greg Buchanan <BUCHANAN@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
From:         Greg Buchanan <BUCHANAN@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      rotated eps graphics on pc

I read a piece of mail the other week about some one having problems with
an EPS graphic that was print rotated 270 degrees out of place.  I even
I even thought to save that article.  But as usual it go deleted.  So I
am in need of information to correct this problem because it just happend
to me.  It prints fine on Mac but, when transfered to IBM the images printed
as if the page was rotated 180 after the text was printed.  Instead of the
images being on the left where they are supposed to be. They show up on the
right and up side down.  Need help as soon as possible.

Greg Buchanan
Buchanan@ukcc.uky.edu

thanks
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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 07:03:19 EDT
Reply-To:     "Sunil Bhatla" <bhatlas@PYRITE.SOM.CWRU.EDU>
From:         "Sunil Bhatla" <bhatlas@PYRITE.SOM.CWRU.EDU>
Subject:      FTP access to pagemaker list archives?

Hi! I am new this list. I tried retrieving the archives, but the mail system
apparently has a 400K per day limit. Can I ftp the archives from anywhere?
It would be easier than sending out mail requests daily for the next 10 days!

Thanks.

Sunil.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:10:47 EDT
Reply-To:     Mary Jean Fitzgibbons <MJFITZG@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
From:         Mary Jean Fitzgibbons <MJFITZG@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: styles with asterisks

In PMer on the Mac, a style marked with an asterisk means that the
particular style was IMPORTED from a word-processing program.

The book says that once you edit a style marked with an asterisk, PMer
removes the asterisk.

Maybe the style has conflicting features or uses a font not on the computer
that PMer is installed on.  Try editing it to see what it is and then make
it what you want.  If a conflict exists, the program will tell you so.
From: vchan@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Victor Chan)
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Subject: Re: Windows screen-capture
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 00:17:04 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jim B. Powlesland) writes:

- 
- I would like to get screen dumps from Windows into pagemaker on
- the Mac. Know of any good windows screen-capture programs?
- 

Well, if you hit <prtscr>, I believe it copies the entire screen while 
<alt>-<prtscr> will copy the active window to the clipboard.  Then, try 
pasting it into a conversion program such as Paint Shop Pro (shareware 
from JASC corp.) that will allow you to save it into a variety of 
formats.  From there, you should be able to import to the MAC or a 
x-platform compatible program such as Aldus Freehand or Pagemaker.

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Reply-To:     Richard Howland-Bolton
              <richard_howland-bolton@QMRELAY.MAIL.CORNELL.EDU>
From:         Richard Howland-Bolton
              <richard_howland-bolton@QMRELAY.MAIL.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pronunciation punctiatio

        Reply to:   RE>Pronunciation punctiation

    > Anybody know where I can find those little marks of
    > pronunciation to use with Palatino? You know, the
    > long vowel and short vowel sound marks. And the
    > upside down e.
    >
    > Fran Holtsberry Fran_holtsberry@macgate.csuchico.edu

That upside down e is called a schwa (represents an unstressed mid-central
vowel) it is found in phonetic alphabets, of which there are several (e.g. ITC
Stone Phonetic Serif and Sans and Times Phonetic all from Adobe et al.) I
don't, however, know of a PS phonetic font for Palatino. If you don't need a
full phonetic alphabet, but just the schwa and a few diacritical marks then you
can use Fontographer to create a font with the needed character set. Or, if
there is just a short passage (quotation or example), you could use FreeHand or
Illustrator to hand assemble rotated e's etc and place it. (If you enjoy
frustration you can do this in PageMaker too!)

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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:19:17 EDT
From:         RTURNBUL@TOROVM1.VNET.IBM.COM
Subject:      Doritos and such...

>*the* Bob, lover of doritos said:

>Welcome to the list, Bob...  Libby is the *head* of the welcoming commitee for
>Canadian Bob's...  ;)

Hey, thanks for the warm welcome! Actually, I hate Doritos (much prefer
Cheezies or Salt and Vinegar chips). Of course, it is nice to see all those
lovely young woman on TV calling my name and fantasizing...

Let's see, what was my point again? Oh yeah, recent releases.

I picked up the new Gabriel album and think it's just a wonderful collection
of beautiful sounds. If there's any disappointment, it's that there's nothing
too surprising...

Can't quite decide on the new R.E.M. single 'Drive'. I don't dislike it as much
as most people I've talked to, but I think they went way overboard with the
orchestration. Heard two other songs from "Automatic For The People" last
night. Both were better than 'Drive'. One was typical sounding R.E.M.; the
other was a piano filled tune that sounded like it was ready to fade out at
any second, but went on for 3-4 minutes.

I think the new Tragically Hip is coming out this Tuesday (OO! OO! OO!). First
single is 'Locked in the Trunk of a Car' (or something like that). Very
Hippish, but I need to hear it a few more times.

I also bought the latest Screaming Trees and both of the Skydiggers CDs
recently, but I'll save my breath for now (all three CDs are uniformly
excellent).

Comments anyone?

Bob T
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 11:45:20 EDT
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Notes on CMA Awards

1.  Wynonna Judd has become quite the porker.

2.  Since when did all the country stars get to be *younger* than me?

3.  Trischa Yearwood and Don Henley duetting together was nice.  Henley
    can still hit those high notes -- wonder how tight his underwear is? :)

4.  Lyle Lovett is *GOOFY*-looking -- but it's a shame the didn't have him
    perform -- he only got to announce an award.

5.  I _still_ don't get what the big deal is about:

       o  Garth Brooks (who sang *way* off key in his performance last night,
                        and seemed aware of and unhappy about it)
       o  Billy Ray Cyrus (need I say more?)

    I do understand the MMW quotient of these guys, but does that explain
    all of their success?  BTW, least anyone get excited, I *do* understand
    that Brooks has more talent than BRC.

6.  Mary-Chapin Carpenter was the only performer I actively *liked*.  I _do_
    understand what the big deal is about her (and it isn't the GMAW factor).

7.  Is it just me, or has the line between schlocky country music and schlocky
    pop music gotten way fuzzy recently?

-Scott "I Only Saw the First Hour of the CMA Awards 'Cuz I Switched Over to
        Watch the Opera" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 08:23:02 EDT
From:         AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject: Re: Announcement

Since its all over.  The CMA awards is what I was talking about.  I hope that
all turned in to see Acky Breaky Heart get Single of the Year.
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:47:19 CDT
From:         Little Inquisitor <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Top 5 vocalists

Unranked:  1) Billy "Mr. B" Eckstine (utterly majestic)
           2) Billie Holiday (anyone catch the PBS special on her a few years b
ack?  Painful and inspiring.)
           3) Janis (still hurts to listen to after all the years.  But could s
he sing, or what?!)
           4) Bessie Smith (what else is there to say?)
           5) Sarah Vaughan (how many have sung ballads this superbly?)

Runners-up:  Otis, Aretha, Dinah Washington, Chris Connor, Joe Turner.

                                             Renato
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:07:49 EDT
From:         Michelle May <MAMAY@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Tim Blake in concert

Well, McIntyre--

I was at Alvin's yesterday, too!!  My fiancee and I happened to stop in for
a coupla corn beefs on our way to Belle Isle and caught the first two songs
that Tim played.  I enjoyed what I heard. . .your "review" was great.

Michelle "In the Right Place at the Right Time" May

P.S. Alvin's isn't in Cass Corridor--the Corridor starts a little further
south, after you cross Warren. :-)  But it is on the campus of my alma mater
and employer--Wayne State--but you knew that already. .
From: ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET (Leonard Watkins)
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Subject: Equipment Question
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:39:17 GMT
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If anyone is still talking to me i would like to ask a couple of questions
those who might be familiar with the following might could help.

Have you ever heard of an Astatic Microphone...tell me about it price..etc

A harp player is looking for something that is about the size of a direct-box
he doesn't know what it is (it sounds like he's talking about an EQ pedal/box)
that has slider controls and cuts down on the feedback he gets when he turns
the amp up past 3 or 4. Does anyone know if it's an EQ he's talking about
or what is it. Thanks in advance.......L.W...Lenny...Asshole...etc or whatever
you'd like to call me I can take it..
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:31:14 CDT
From:         Little Inquisitor <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Psychedelic favorites

In gratitude, let's gently drape some magical threads around Michelle's peace-m
aking shoulders. (In passing, let's also hope that she and her "fiancee"  -- Mi
chelle, is this one for the typing police or for the family values crowd? -- ar
e not stringing each other along (*groan*), unless they're into that sort of th
ing).  Now to the point.

Though Sonia rightly believes that lists are silly, they're also quite a lot of
 fun, enabling us to learn along the way about others' tastes.  So, possibly ta
pping into a new vein, I venture forth into the realm of psychedelia.  Trpping
out, here are my favorites:

13th Floor Elevators (awesome, inspires reverence, especially __Easter Everywhe
re__ that improves with every listen)

Early Pink Floyd (particularly up through around '70)

Chocolate Watchband (spiritual; hey McIntyre, one the band's vocalists, Dave
Aguilar, became professor of astronomy  somewhere in Colorado; how apt!)

Morgen (induces deep mystical feelings; somewhat scary as well in some parts)

Others that I particularly like: Red Crayola, Fifty Foot Hose, John McLaughlin'
s __Devotion__, Guru Guru, Ash Ra Tempel, Leigh Stephens' __Red Weather__ (anyb
ody have a decent extra copy to trade?), Sacred Mushroom, West Coast Pop Art Ex
perimental band, Kaleidoscope (yeah Lindley!), Electric Prunes, and for false/m
eta-psych, Stones' __Their Satanic Majesties Request__.

If flame you must, go ahead. "Hit me With Your Best Shot."  Inquisitors are use
d to it -- goes with the profession.

Renato "I'm in a head mood today" Barahona
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From:         RIck <MMLRICK@UBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Barfalicious Tunes and Artists
              5 Oct 1992 10:35:48 EDT from <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>

>
>-Scott "Hateful" Hammer
> College of William and Mary

Make that Scott "Hateful and Inattentive to Directions" Hammer.
Bob said to send it out via personal e-mail. Now we all have access to your
(not so) secret loathings.
No offense, Scott, but it was bound to happen sooner or later, wasn't it? You
were the first to break the ice, that's all.
One of the original Hateful 8,
Rick
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 07:22:56 CDT
From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Re: longest song title ever???

(Hey, Why Don't You Play) Another Somebody Done Somebody Wrong Song
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From: ST102315@BROWNVM.BITNET (Jake)
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Subject: Re: Top 5 Lead Vocalists!!!!!!
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:20:07 GMT
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Hello everybody.  It's my first post.  My favorite vocalists, male and
female, in no particular order are:

1) Bessie Smith                        1) Howlin' Wolf
2) Janis Joplin                        2) Muddy Waters
3) Billie Holliday                     3) David Byrne
4) Aretha Franklin                     4) Robert Johnson
5) "Big Mama" Thornton                 5) Louis Armstrong

Five is far too few....   *sigh*

Talk to you all later...

-jwgh
From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
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Subject: Re: Any listeners of Hendrix or Dolphy?
Date: 30 Sep 92 02:50:11 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network

In article <9209292329.AA18087@itesocci.gdl.iteso.mx> A12053@ITESO.BITNET writes:
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