HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: "Henry A. Petras" <petras@pa.dec.com>
Subject: Happy Birthday Shelly!!!
Reply-To: petras@pa.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:29:05 GMT


I just wanted to wish Shelly a very HAPPY and HEALTHY Birthday!!!

Thank you Shelly for all of your efforts with the phish-net. 
It is highly appreciated by all. :-)

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: ericbe@microsoft.com (Eric Berman)
Subject: YEM (was Phuck You All)
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:13:59 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Sep13.201553.6629@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> ipanema@itsa.ucsf.edu writes:
>On another phish-related topic, their set at Shoreline last month with Santana
>made me wonder something about YEM.  The extended instrumental jam before the
>vocals kick in, is that also YEM or does it go by a separate title.  Please
>excuse my naivete, but we all start somewhere, right?

Hi, Bill.

Great show, no (albeit short).  The quick answer to your question: yes, it's
all one song.  The longer answer to your question: yes, it is all one song.

--Eric
From: vosshall@Apple.COM (Pete Vosshall)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Favorite Bowie
Date: 16 Sep 92 01:15:07 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <72399@apple.Apple.COM> bing@Apple.COM (Christopher R. Bingham) writes:
>In article <1992Sep14.142116.19088@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, Jeff Althoff <jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu> writes:
>> 
>> I'll ask this question again since I asked it in the
>> midst of the FY onslaught and people probably ignored it:
>> What's your favorite version of Bowie? The 4/17/92 version is
>> amazing and I'm wondering if they attain this level of wild
>> abandon on all versions....
>
>My favorite has got to be the Halloween Goddard College show in '89.
>The band passed out about 6 cases of mac & cheese boxes (enough so several
>hundred people could each have a box).  We were then encouraged to shake
>the boxes (like maracas) along with Fish as he played the Bowie intro
>beat on his cymbal.  Wow.
>

(hey chris)

I agree completely.  The Goddard College David Bowie is my favorite, and that's
just from having a tape of the show.  The jam is long and extremely twisted.
I've never heard a better David Bowie (including the 4/17/92 Warfield version
with Trey and Mike falling in and out of Catapult).  It's what I think of when
I think of Phish reaching that "Phish zone" where all of the original song
structure has been abandoned and they are all improvising, working off of
each other's ideas, and somehow, in the end, coming out of it to finish
the song.  Know what I mean?

Crab in my shoe mouth,

   Pete
-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
* Pete Vosshall         |INTERNET: vosshall@apple.com  | "So maybe I could be *
* Collaborative Systems |VOICE:    (408) 720-1664  home| a fly...and feed an  *
* Apple Computer, Inc.  |          (408) 862-5418  work| arachnid as I die"   *
From: h7l@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Blackdog Band in Ithaca
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:39:15 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

   People have oft mentioned the Blackdog Band as a fun show. They're playing
in sunny Ithaca, NY tomorrow ngiht(Saturday) at The Nines, if any of y'all are
interested. I've never seen them, but will ber there tomorrow to check them
out. You netters are usually right about these music things;-)

OPC: Phish is apparently very interested in playing a show at Cornell, hooray!b
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: dsteinbe@nmsu.edu
Subject: dead phish
Reply-To: dsteinbe@nmsu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 23:54:34 GMT

Re: the dead/phish who is better controversy:
The thing about both of these bands is that they go into peaks and lulls.
Phish haven't been playing long enough to see any real pattern (except for      the fact that each tour has been better than the last.  Every time I see a show  that I think is the best ever (e.g. 5/6/90 Toad's Place, 2/9/91(?) Smith,    
The Charlottsville Giant Country Horn show, 11/16/91 The Sting (New Britian,Ct) , 12/31/91, etc.) it gets surpassed by the next tour.  Here's hoping fall tour   will top 3/13/92 Providence and 5/Whateveritwas/92 Port Chester.), but the      Dead seem to
be in 5 year plans.  I'd say that 1990 Dead is/was better than 1990 Phish,
but Phish's spring tour kicked the Dead's to pieces.  Similarly, while driving
back to Providence after the New Aud show, I heard the Dead's NYE show and 
thanked a random deity that I chose Worchester over Oakland; however, the
reverse is true about 90/91.  They're both great bands (IMHO)  so don't 
generalise (sp?).
Whatever.  This would have been on rec.music.gdead, but I can't figure how to
post there.  I hope I didn't bore anyone.
David "ZZYZX" Steinberg
P.S. At Amy's Farm, someone mentioned that the Dude of Life has/will have an     album out under a different name.  Please e-mail me (dsteinberg@nmsu.edu) if    you have any info.  Thanx.
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: AFOSTER@cmcvx1.claremont.edu
Subject: Birthdays
Reply-To: AFOSTER@cmcvx1.claremont.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 06:14:12 GMT

What are the band member's birthdays?  Who is "S.E.S." in the liner notes
next to "Eliza" on PON?  Did Page really write "Magilla" for his sweetheart?
How romantic.  Does anybody have a copy of the show where
 Fishman's mom
plays vacuum?

					-Andrew
From: vosshall@Apple.COM (Pete Vosshall)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Helping Phriendly Book
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:29:58 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Sep10.184817.26530@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> MH1406@student.law.duke.edu writes:
>The book is way out of date, but I hope people have been keeping
>track of set lists and whatnot from the past year ( and I hope they
>archived the Santana-opening lists as well).  I would like to get in

I've got all the Santana-opening lists that were posted to the net.  The 
shows I don't have set lists for are: Holman Stadium (Nashua, NH), Riverport
(Maryland Heights, MO), all three Greek Theatre shows (LA, CA), Pima County
Fair (Tuscon, AZ), Santa Fe Downs (Santa Fe, NM), and Santa Barbara County
Bowl (SB, CA).  I'd be happy to forward this list to whomever or make the
change myself. If anyone has these missing set lists, please post them or
e-mail me directly so I can update my list.

>P.S. Someone was collecting addresses for additions/corrections to the
>Phish mailing list.  I think it was the ever-loquacious, well-spoken
>Shelly C., but I could be wrong.  Whoever was doing this, could you
>as well contact me?  I need to get an address correction to them, and
>want to do this in time for the next mailing.  Again, thanks.

You can call the hotline directly and leave a message saying that you'd like
to change your address and give your new address _slowly_ and _clearly_.  The
number is (617) 647 - 5521

Expanding exponentially like some recursive virus, (sounds like a bad trip!)

	Pete
-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
* Pete Vosshall         |INTERNET: vosshall@apple.com  | "So maybe I could be *
* Collaborative Systems |VOICE:    (408) 720-1664  home| a fly...and feed an  *
* Apple Computer, Inc.  |          (408) 862-5418  work| arachnid as I die"   *
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: samuels@matia.Stanford.EDU (Steve Samuels)
Subject: My Minds Got A Mind Of Its Own - WRONG AUTHOR! (was: New Songs)
Organization: Psychology Dept, Stanford Univ.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 19:52:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.043122.2581@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> roek@ruby.egr.msu.edu (Daniel Roek) writes:
>In article <18rp7lINN7bc@agate.berkeley.edu>, shell@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson) writes:
>|> 
>|> March 7, 1992 (debuts)
>
>Also, "My Mind's got a Mind of its Own," a bluegrass tune by Jimmy Dale
>Gilmour (I think).

JD Gilmour was given credit for this tune by Trey the first time they
played it (i.e. at the 3/7/92 show).  HOWEVER, it has come to my
attention that although Gilmour popularized the tune, he did NOT write
it.  I came across this bit of info while reading a bio on the guy who
did, some folkie who just came out with a new album (a la John Prine).
Unfortunately, I cannot for the life of me remember who it was :^(.

No worries though, just knowing this info is wrong should help someone
track it down.  For instance, could someone check with Trey and ask him
to look a little closer at that Elektra "folkways-type" collection that
he found it on?  We should definitely have this info for the new HPB.

Sorry for not posting the info when I found it, my brain is a sieve,
which is why I'm writing a dissertation ;^).

HammaH
"cat died"


Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "Andrew P. Dadmun" <dadmun@ufcc.ufl.edu>
Subject: Ithaca Stuff
Reply-To: dadmun@ufcc.ufl.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 03:44:23 GMT

9/26/91=State Theater
I think the last time they played the Haunt was 5/7/90.
The Haunt is owned by John Peterson who I personally dislike (as do
many others).  You gotta respect the shows he gets though.  Anyway,
I am pretty sure that he doesn't own the State theater.  I just finished
four years in that town, and I never heard of it, or saw him anywhere but
by his joint on Green St. - the Haunt.  The Haunt is kinda a second gear
place in Ithaca.  Bands start out in the smaller places like The Nines,
and then move up to the Haunt - such as the Spin Doctors & Phish.  Once
a band gets the State Theater they have pretty much made it on the small
scale - maybe one or two unknown label releases.  Veteran Theater bands
are usually almost very well known  (almost?..) I am rambling...

I hate the Florida music scene!!!!   Southern netters UNITE!  
Bring PHISH SOUTH!  Or else I will go (more) insane...

HELL?

"I have been through it.  I have seen it.  It has happened to me.
Remember I was signed with Warner Brothers for eight fucking years."
                                       - Frank Zappa

Andy D.
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Lee Silverman <ST101137@brownvm.brown.edu>
Subject: Personal to Dan Korwan
Reply-To: ST101137@brownvm.brown.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:03:33 GMT

Dan,
  Just got your tapes today but I`m not sure what I need to make
for you.  Let me know.


Set the Record Levels for the high gear of your soul!!
Pandion                                       Pandion@Brown.edu
(Lee Silverman)                               ST101137@BROWNVM
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Ellis of Lemuria <jeg5s@uva.pcmail.Virginia.EDU>
Subject: RE: "fuck you all" RE's
Reply-To: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.Virginia.EDU
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 05:02:14 GMT

Isn't there any control at all on what comes out in these digests?  I can't
believe my mailbox is full of crap by and about some dumbass with all the
intelligence and understanding of a soggy lentil.  -- Ellis


ELLIS OF LEMURIA  email: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
   snail mail: P.O. Box 3240, Charlottesville, VA 22903
     +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
motto: keep smiling, gliding, and riding that train!!  :-)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.Virginia.EDU
Subject: does NE inc. VA?
Reply-To: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.Virginia.EDU
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 02:13:52 GMT

Anyone know if "the Northeast" (re hotline message and .net
postings), which explicitly includes "a little bit of the
midwest" would happen to include Virginia shows?  There hasn't
been a leg without a show in this state in awhile, and an
increasing number the last three legs; the only 3 headline gigs
for a while were C-ville, Richmond, and Norfolk.  I assume that
means Phish either likes playing those places, or at the very
least sees them as a "good" outlet, southward, hip, and excited
on the band.  Just seems like it's gonna be rough waiting til
NY'sE.  -- Ellis

ELLIS OF LEMURIA  email: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
   snail mail: P.O. Box 3240, Charlottesville, VA 22903
     +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
motto: keep smiling, gliding, and riding that train!!  :-)
From: eyethink@cse.ucsc.edu (Carl A. Wescott)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Educating Rita... er, Phil Lesh (Phish sighting)
Date: 12 Sep 1992 19:00:54 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (CE/CIS Boards)
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: arapaho.ucsc.edu

>From: phlesh@well.sf.ca.us (Phil Lesh)
>
>I still cannot believe there is a newsgroup devoted to us!  I'm
>honored!  By the way, who is Phish?
>
>love,
>Phil

Phil Lesh (bassist for the Grateful Dead) just posted to rec.music.gdead
after setting up his well account.  I was amused to see the above question
about Phish conclude his post.  

Carl

PS Needless to say, I sent him an answer...  
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: RKNIGHT%COLGATEU.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Subject: Spin Doctors in Buffalo??
Reply-To: RKNIGHT%COLGATEU.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:52:43 GMT

Could some kind soul out there please e-mail me any info they might just have
on the Spin Doc's show in Buffalo this weekend?  I read a post about it
a week ago or so, but have thrown it away... sorry to waste the bandwidth.
        Your help is much appreciated.
                                                Rob Knight
From: dsteinbe@nmsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: alvenu malkenu (sp?)
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:54:23 GMT
Reply-To: dsteinbe@nmsu.edu
Organization: The Internet

Sorry to interrupt the fascinating conversation about fuck you & actually talk
about Phish :^), but I thought I'd put my two cents in about this prayer
controversy.  First, I wouldn't ever want it dropped from the rotation, because
it's connected to The Man Who Stepped Into Yesterday, which- along with I Am 
Hydrogen and The Divided Sky- is one of the reasons I wake up in the morning...
Secondly, my (jewish) mother enjoyed their version.  While she's not exactly
a traditional jew, she doesn't exactly go on tour or anything (and she does play
Mah-Jhong, which should count for something).  Thirdly, if someone is so much
of a traditional jew that they would be offended by Alvenu Malkenu on pass-
over, then what the hell are they doing at a concert that night.  Shouldn't    they be at a seder or something?
            Oh, well...  Just some random noise so I don't have to do my real
analysis...
-David "ZZYZX" Steinberg
P.S. I don't know who else has noticed this, but WTBS (Atlanta Superstation) has
been playing Widespread Panic songs (most frequently "Walking for Your Love"- I think that's the title...) between innings of Braves games.  Talk about a freak
out...
From: shell@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Probably an FAQ...
Date: 14 Sep 1992 01:03:21 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, U. C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: gandalf.berkeley.edu


You're right, Matthew, it is an FAQ!

Since the whole FAQ file was posted within the last few days, I'll
repost just the section which answers your question.  (Lee, this is
still working as described below, isn't it?  I know that it was the
last time I tried it --)
-----------------------------------------

Frequently Asked questions, and some answers:

2.  What files are available from phish-archives@fuggles.acc.virginia.edu?
3.  How can I get those files besides sending mail?

------------------------------------------------------------
2. What files are available from Phish-Archives@fuggles.acc.virginia.edu?

There are 6 Phish.net Philes:
The FAQ list: The file of which you're reading an excerpt right now.
The Lyrics DataBase:A collection of all the lyrics posted to the net.
The Stories Collection:All the interesting phish-related or net-related
    stories that have been posted to the net.  Highlights include
    The Ness Story, and tales from shows like Townsend.
The Interviews file: Transcripts of interviews with the band.
    Plus two reviews of PON from the Boston Phoenix.
The Helping Phriendly Book:A collection of setlists and song titles.
    (The Helping Phriendly Book is being prepared for a major update.
    Stay tuned for details on when and where to send your additions
    and corrections....)
The Chords File:A collection of posts to the net containing
    Chords for a few songs.
------------------------------------------------------------------
3. How can I get the files other than sending mail?

The other way is via FTP.  This explanation is meant for those who
are already familiar with the workings of FTP.  If you don't know FTP,
it's easier for you to simply mail in a request than to figure it out.

For those of you who do know FTP, here's how it works:
-FTP to Brownvm.Brown.EDU.  (128.148.128.40)
-Log in as anonymous
-Send your userid as a password.

Ok.  So now you're in.  Don't bother trying to do an LS at this point;
the VM Mainframe won't show you a list of available directories.
Simply change to the Phish directory by typing the following somewhat
obscure command:
cd ST101137.201
(Brief explanation: ST101137 is Lee's account number, 201 is the disk #)
The 201 disk contains only the official "Phish.Net" files.  There
is also a 202 disk (cd ST101137.202) that contains tape lists
and other non-official stuff.

Now you can do an LS, and see what's available.  All the files will
have names in the format  #######.#######
Files ######.PHISH are the standard net.files: Stories, Interviews,
 Lyrics, FAQ, and HPB.
Files ######.TREE are copies of all the trees that I know of running on
 the PHISH NET ONLY!!!
Other files should be pretty obvious.

If you want to have something put on the FTP server, send mail to
ST101137@Brownvm.Brown.edu and we'll figure out how to get it.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Doug Coe <EWKX@cornella.cit.cornell.edu>
Subject: Fall Show at Cornell??
Reply-To: EWKX@cornella.cit.cornell.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 00:38:32 GMT


Just got some more 'insider information' from a friend on the concert
commission:
     Evidently, Phish called the commission over the summer saying
     that they wanted to play a show at Cornell.  Well, the CCC wants
     the band, but evidently they had to put a bid in against one of the
     SUNY schools (the exact one does not come to mind).  They should
     know the verdict sometime by the end of the week.
The proposed date for the show was November 28, just after our Thanksgiving
Break.

I guess all I can do I hope that the CCC was generous enough with the bid!

Doug  =>EarWaKX<=
From: shell@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: New Songs
Date: 14 Sep 1992 03:53:22 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, U. C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: gandalf.berkeley.edu

Re:  All Things Reconsidered --
oops!  Thanks for the correction, Rich!

(I sure am glad that the HPB update will be taking place shortly...)

Shelly

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: shell@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Faht/Catapult live?
Date: 14 Sep 1992 03:50:26 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, U. C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: gandalf.berkeley.edu

Ellis asked if Faht and Catapult were ever performed live.

As far as I know, nothing resembling Faht has been done live; but I've
seen Catapult live twice, done in two different styles.

The first was at the Warfield in San Francisco on 4/17/92, when during
the David Bowie that closed the first set Mike and Trey in unison abruptly
interrupted their intense jam with the first line of Catapult -- then 
continued jamming, and again stopped abruptly for the second line -- and
so on through the end of the David Bowie/Catapult/David Bowie/Catapult (or
however you might label it on a tape).  It was awesome ;-)

The second was four days later, at Redwood Acres Fair and Rodeo Grounds
in Eureka, California (6 miles from my house) on 4/21/92.  The whole show
was nuts, but the epitome of the mood occurred in the second set:  the
Cold As Ice intro theme was played and Fish came to the front, debating
what to play while the audience yelled suggestions.  Someone yelled 
"Catapult" and Fish said, "Oh, that's not my song" then conferred with
Mike, and introduced him: "Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr. Michael Gordon."
Mike then did Catapult, solo a capella.  Then...the Hold Your Head
theme was played, but Fish had picked up Mike's bass, upon which he
began to play the bass line to Lively Up Yourself (the caterer that
evening was a wonderful Jamaican named Prophet who had cooked them some
amazing Rastafarian-style food; perhaps there's a connection).  So, 
Fish was playing Mike's bass, so Mike picked up Trey's guitar and let
loose a couple of fearsome leads into Lively Up Yourself, which Fish
sang.  About two-thirds of the way through, Mike added a unique vacuum
solo.  The weirdness only continued with the next song being Sanity...
fun memories!

These are the only occasions of live Catapults that I know of; if there
have been more, tell us about it!

Shelly

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.Virginia.EDU
Subject: GroveL: 4-17&21-92
Reply-To: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.Virginia.EDU
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:54:40 GMT

Otay.  I'm terribly intrigued, a bit caffinated, and all giggly
inside.  Who has high qual, low gen copies of 4-17-92 and
4-21-92.  I am specifically interested in the Catapults (esp.
David Bowie->Catapul->DB->C->DB...) and Lively up Yourself.-E

ELLIS OF LEMURIA  email: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
   snail mail: P.O. Box 3240, Charlottesville, VA 22903
     +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
motto: keep smiling, gliding, and riding that train!!  :-)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "Robert K. Toutkoushian" <TOUTKOUS@vx.cis.umn.edu>
Subject: Spin Dr's on eMpTyV
Reply-To: TOUTKOUS@vx.cis.umn.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:25:07 GMT

Hey Now,

	Haven't seen this posted, but maybe it`s old news. Last week, I
was flipping through channels and stopped on MTV. They announced that
they were going to show a video by Pearl Jam, and then the SPIN DOCTORS!
My 3 year old daughter got all excited: "Daddy, the Spin Doctors...the
Spin Doctors!" Sure enough, they showed a video for "Little Miss Can't
Be Wrong" :-) :-)

OPC: My daughter is also a big Phish phan. She especially likes "Llama".
     And who says kids today are a lost cause????

Rob Toutkoushian
University of Minnesota
INTERNET: toutkous@vx.cis.umn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: IN SUMMING UP THE MORAL SEAMS A LITTLE BIT OBSCURE <leaf@kenyon.edu>
Subject: "fuck you all" flames
Reply-To: leaf@kenyon.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:23:30 GMT

Sorry this isn't a phish related post but, then again there have been a lot of
those lately.  
	It seems some very unpleasent person posted (cross posted) a very
unintellegent, racsist message.  This of course sucks.  But what I think the
best thing we can do as more intellegent folks is simply ignore the babbling of
such an individual.  He doesn't deserve our attention.  To quote the group
Funkadelics song, Maggotbrain:  "...For I knew that I must rise above it all,
or drown in my own shit."
	Lets's not give this person any reason to keep posting stupid messages.
				Peace,
				  Matt Leaf

     "We can all live together, forever and ever when we make it to the
       	promised land"       
			-JGB
From: Mitch Hendrickson <mitchh@hops.gvg.tek.com>
Subject: Zero tree (yes, it's alive)
Reply-To: mitchh@hops.gvg.tek.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 00:01:29 GMT


As one of the upper levels in the Zero tree (now dubbed "Zero stealth
tree", since it's been invisible for so long :-), I can confirm that
it still exists, and decks are even starting to roll.  I would assume
it will be posted soon (I've seen the top level).

Stay tuned...

-Mitch
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish