From: trevore@vast.unsw.edu.au (Trevor Elbourne (Supr. Hell) BE)
Subject: Re: UN Bid to halt spread of War [Macedonia] 
Organization: University of New South Wales
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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:22:21 GMT


sachz@montebello.ecom.unimelb.EDU.AU (SAS) writes:
: UN BID TO HALT SPREAD OF WAR
: Yaroslav Trofimov, NEW YORK and Nigel Dudley, LONDON.
: The European
: 
:    Macedonia is likely to receive rapid international recognition
: from the United Nations if the European Community fails to acknowledge
: the former Yugoslav republic's independence at next week's Edinburgh
: summit.
: 

	I don't know. I wouldn't be so sure althogh I'd call it probable.
US seems to be asking Skopjia to delay if they don't want another turndown.
Britain stated that we can't have two opinions. One in the EC and one in
UN. And Miteran supports the Greek position and will apply pressure in that
direction. How alone in France is he I don't know.

:    The move comes amid growing fears that the war raging in Bosnia
: will spill over into Macedonia, igniting an even more horrific
: conflict which would bring other Balkan countries into the Yugoslav
: civil war for the first time.
: 
:    This prospect means that UN diplomats are no longer prepared to
: wait indefinitely for the EC to resolve its year-long dispute over
: Macedonia's recognition. Greece is objecting to the use of the name
: Macedonia, claiming that it would inflame regional tensions.
: 
:    An EC ambassador to the UN said the matter would "fall out of
: the hands of the EC and come to the UN" if the EC failed to resolve
: it in Edinburgh. He predicted that the UN would be "highly unlikely"
: to turn the bid down, even though Russia is the only one of the
: 15-member Security Council to have recognised the state.

	Well he faile once already. Russia has not recognised "Makedonia"
he is doing "NOT" so well at the moment. Oh yea an (Un named) diplomat
usualy avoids to speek for the UN. It's not the diplomatic way. No wonder
that "diplomat" has no name.

: "Unlike the
: EC, Greece has no veto here, and no one will have to veto for her if
: the issue comes to the Council," agreed another EC Security Council
: diplomat.

	Well another failure. Greece never applied veto. Doing well
arn't we. Oh and I guess Greece applied veto to the US opinions
as well as the rest of the world that hs no personal intrest in 
Skopjia ?

: 
:    Were the UN used to circumvent an EC agreement, it would provoke
: a major row between member states and seriously damage attempts to
: develop a common foreign policy.
: 

	A very true point. Therfore opinion of an EC member country in
EC = that out of EC. makes France and Brittain a good chance. Also
the US seems to be on our side. I can tell you now the desision making is.
Recognise Makedonia, loose the current goverment in Greece. Major instability
and insecurity for a while and PASOK comes to power. Now they have pledged to reverse the harsh mesures taken by ND party to improve the economy. Also
they were a bit weird and unpredictable when they were in power. 
To add the Greeks will always fight a "Makedonia" above them so
instability again with the recognition. There is a good chance
they wont be.

:    Dr Boutros Boutros-Ghali, the UN secretary general, is said to be
: strongly supportive of Macedonia's admission to the world body. He
: enraged Greek officials last week by referring in his letter to the
: Security Council to the crisis in "Macedonia", without the usual
: qualifier "former Yugoslav republic".
: 
:    Diplomats say that Macedonia's UN membership, bringing a painful
: diplomatic defeat to Greece, would open the way for immediate
: recognition by most non-EC countries, and would even enable some EC
: member-states to follow suit.
: 
	Consider the price for Greece. I don't think it's worth it for
the EC and US. My guess is that it will be prolonged. Last tame it was 
checked it wasn't even on the agenda.



:    They say there is growing acceptance in New York that unless
: immediate action is taken to end Macedonia's diplomatic limbo - it
: declared independence last year but has only been recognised by only
: a few countries - it will be vulnerable to destabilisation and
: destruction by other regional powers.
: 

	Nope, Clinton repeated his support that he will take no step 
before the "EC" recognises a "Makedonia" that might take a while.



:    Macedonia's political stability is also threatened by economic
: collapse. It is the unintended victim of tightened sanctions against
: Serbia, which have severed its only link to the outside world. It is
: also suffering from an economic blockade from Greece.
: 

	When greece was shipping petrol through Skopjia, they shipped it to Serbia and Greece was blaimed for it. Now they cut the petrol shipping
and allow only humanitarian aid. Now they are blamed for that. What would
you sudjest.
	My guess is that Skopjia should be told to respect the sanctions.


:    If it does collapse into civil war, the consequences for the
: stability of the eastern Mediterranean could be profound as first
: Serbia and then Albania are drawn in. They would almost certainly be
: followed by Bulgaria, Greece and then Turkey.
: 

	Guess who is in the middle of the storm. Guess who could stop it
by following the Greek and EDC recomendations ?


:    Some EC countries, including Britain, are very unhappy that
: Greece has managed to veto every attempt by the European Community
: to recognise Macedonia. Diplomats say that taking the matter to the
: UN, where there is widespread support for Macedonia, would
: circumvent Greek opposition.
: 



:    Greece is insisting that Macedonia is totally dropped from the
: former Yugoslav republic's name. It argues that keeping its present
: identity is evidence of its territorial ambitions in the Greek
: province of the same name.
: 
:    EC diplomats consider it unlikely that Athens will back down
: before the Edinburgh summit, relying on agreement reached between
: the 12 member states not to recognise any country with the word
: Macedonia in it.
: 
:    There is hope of a compromise. The EC's special envoy, Robin
: O'Neill, has hinted that a settlement could be in the offing. If one
: is not reached, diplomats believe that the UN will take an
: increasingly active role in resolving the question of Macedonia. It
: has sent a 14 member monitoring team to Macedonia ahead of the
: possibly deployment of peacekeepers. [already occurred - article delayed]
: it will then respond to Macedonia's request for 1,000 peacekeepers.
: [see elsewhere in MAK-NEWS for followup on this]
: 
:    Macedonia's UN application has already been lodged but it has
: been agreed that it will not be activated until the outcome of the
: Edinburgh meeting becomes finalised.

	(Sorry last word got deleted. "finalised" is my guess.

	Well SAS. I am just writting as an "experimrent" you just seem to 
post with no arguing. Selective jurnalism, sortof one sided. I hope you
can express an opinion on some of my points. This is a debating forum
as well.
	George
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