From: sheyn@csa.bu.edu (Igor)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Celtics Rookie Camp
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:17:34 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: sheyn@csa


In article <4986@transfer.stratus.com>, halpin@sw.stratus.com (Jim Halpin) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul20.135652.19817@uvmark.uucp>, davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
|> >
|> > He was on like 3 different teams, 2 of which he couldn't stay with.
|> 
|> 
|> 	Not quite Dave. I don't have the article describing his college career
|> in front of me (and if I get it wrong I'm sure ~15 people will violently correct
|> me :-> ), but I think Barry 'flunked' out of his first school, took a year off,
|> went to a JC to get his grades up and played one year there, before finally
|> ending up a Georgia Tech where he played two seasons. So it was hardly a matter
|> of him not being able to 'stay with' two teams. The 1st case was academic problems
|> (he was quoted in the Globe as being very immature at the time) not a lack of
|> basketball skills. And the 2nd team was a JC, which he used as a stepping stone
|> to get back to a NCAA Div I program.
|> 
|> 	I think Barry's agent is doing what he is paid to do, get his client
|> the best possible financial deal. So Barry missed rookie camp, big deal! He
|> missed 3 workouts and three pick-up games in New York with a bunch of NBA
|> wanna-bes & has-beens. Barry was absolutley right when he said that stuff was
|> nothing but further evaluation by the franchise. By not signing right away,
|> Barry *might* be able to get more money than the $500,000 salary slot the C's
|> are now offering. Two bigger slots may open up between now and the training
|> camp. Bagley won't be resigned unless Douglas gets traded (and that looks unlikely
|> right now). And of course there is Bird's probable retirement after the
|> Olympics, which would open up a slot worth 1/2 of Bird's base-year salary. I think
|> Bird's base-year salary was less than $2 million, which would make the slot
|> available worth about arround $800,000 or $900,000.
|> 
|> 	If none of that pans out, then the $500,000 slot will most likely still
|> be there in October. If the C's sign one of the current big men in camp, it will
|> most likely be with Stoyko's slot (~$375,000). And if not Barry can go to Europe
|> for a year for more money.
|> 
|> -- 
|> !	Jim  Halpin
|> !	halpin@turkey.sw.stratus.com
|> !	Marlboro, MA
|> !
I think not attending rookie camp was a mistake by Barry ( although I can't really blaim him for not taking the team offer ). He should show
his enthusiasm and willingness to play. Spectacular performance which he
might be capable of could have brought him a good contract afterwards. 
After all, he wasn't a very popular pick with many of Celtics fans, and the fact that he wasa camp holdout may only aggravate the situation and also dissappoint the management. I'd hate to see him go to Italy ( remember Shaw, Ferry ). 
No player has ever become a success in NBA after playing in Italy. It would
be another wasted pick. The only thing is to hope for a soon signing, at
least before veteran camp starts. 
BTW, anyone know what were the numbers on Brown's and Fox's contract
during their rookie years?