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From: sylve_ge@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Gerald Sylvester)
Subject: Re: How About Some talk about Hot Drummers!
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:16:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.151159.11685@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> dchavez@tincup.enet.dec.com (Dale J. Chavez - Colo Spgs) writes:
>In article <1992Dec18.080210.29447@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>, sylve_ge@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Gerald Sylvester) writes:
>|>What albums has Colaiuta played on (I know there are probably hundreds)?
>|>I have Zappa's 'Shut up and play yer guitar' and I didn't find the music
>|>that interesting (I haven't really, really listened to it though).  I
>|>thought most of it they played because thats what they played and
>|>nothing else to it.
>
>One of the more recent (though it's a couple of years old) recordings that
>Vinnie plays on is Sting's 1991 tour video (live).  This video really
>captures the essence of Vinnie: the ability to play in a rock/jazz setting
>and still embellish the music with incredible subtleties.  Ironically, as
>much as I admire Dave Weckl, I don't think he as the "feel" to pull off a
>rock/pop situation.
>
>Vinnie can also be found on one of the Rippington CDs.

I originally asked the question of what albums has Colaiuta played on.
I forgot to say that I have him on one of the two disks of the GRP
Live album.  He plays with Lee Ritenour, Dave Grusin, Chick Corea,
Tom Scott, Diane Schuur, Barnaby Finch and Tim Landers.  He really
has great feel and some really far-out fills that fit somehow.  

I saw him live with Dave Sanborn about 3 years ago on LI.  He flew
in three nights before, learned the songs in one night, had
one rehearsal and played a KILLER show.  I had seen Rush 3 or 4
nights before and Coliauta made Neil Peart look like a beginner.
I also saw him live at the Buddy Rich Tribute on LI.  He was
great there as well.  And one more thing....at the B.R. Tribute,
Gadd played after Joe Morello, Louis Bellson and a few other greats.
You would think he would play something special but he played
quarters on the ride, tapping quarters on the hi-hat, quarters on
the bass and two and four on the snare.  he got a standing ovation
during the song.  It was the MOST incredible beat I have ever heard.
I can't see anyone swinging as much as Gadd regardless of what they
are playing.  I took pictures at the show and I got a really nice
one of Gadd.  After a show in NYC at the Bottom Line two years ago
(with Will Lee, Richard Tee, John Tropea, Ralph MacDonald) I got
him to autograph it.  He complemented ME.  It was like god telling
you you have been a good boy.  

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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
From: hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm)
Subject: Re: How About Some talk about Hot Drummers!
Organization: Ocean Sciences Centre
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 01:09:29 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.151159.11685@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com>, dchavez@tincup.enet.dec.com (Dale J. Chavez - Colo Spgs) writes:
|> 
|> In article <1992Dec18.080210.29447@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>, sylve_ge@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Gerald Sylvester) writes:
|> |>What albums has Colaiuta played on (I know there are probably hundreds)?
|> |>I have Zappa's 'Shut up and play yer guitar' and I didn't find the music
|> |>that interesting (I haven't really, really listened to it though).  I
|> |>thought most of it they played because thats what they played and
|> |>nothing else to it.
|> 
|> One of the more recent (though it's a couple of years old) recordings that
|> Vinnie plays on is Sting's 1991 tour video (live).  This video really
|> captures the essence of Vinnie: the ability to play in a rock/jazz setting
|> and still embellish the music with incredible subtleties.  Ironically, as
|> much as I admire Dave Weckl, I don't think he as the "feel" to pull off a
|> rock/pop situation.
|> 
|> Vinnie can also be found on one of the Rippington CDs.
|> 
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|> 

Holy christ!  Vinnie is AMAZING on Shut Up ... 

	This is where I learned of  Vinney!

	Please tell me WHAT records you can find better drumming on than
	Zappa's 'Shut Up ... ]' !!!!  This is stellar  stuff!

	

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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
From: jenu0001@student.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: test
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: rec.music.makers.percussion
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:31:28 GMT

testing, testing, 1 2 3
From: jmf@gdwb.oz.au (Jamie Forssman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Question on mixing down a recording!
Date: 15 Dec 92 05:50:08 GMT



	Gidday All,
		Just a question on what all you home studio users
		mix down your recordings onto?

		Eg. Stereo in the lounge room
		    Tape deck....(panasonic x-12 super duper)
		     
		And what have the rsults been like?

		I am currently recording on a Yamaha MT100 II 4 track
		and have been mixing down on the stereo on the lounge.
		This is a bit of a hassle so I'm thinking on buying
		a "rock box" with CD line ins to use as a mix down deck.

		Any suggestions?

					Thanks 
					SOOT!
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From: CA.JNL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Joshua Loftus)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: The Business
Date: 15 Dec 1992 13:20:13 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu


I may be young and maybe I'm an idealist, but I'm kind of surprised
by the tone of this thread.  I am continually amazed that an
individual or group of individuals can earn literally millions of
dollars by performing music or any other art form while most folks
who do not necessarily brighten the world with their presence, yet
nonetheless help make the life as we know it function at least
somehwhat smoothly, struggle to pay the bills.  I think there is a
great deal of pleasure involved in music, both listening a playing,
and I freely partake of both.  I do not think that I deserve to get
paid a million dollars for my musical genius (or lack thereof).
Look around at the best paid musicians in our society.  They are
paid not according to skill or merit, but according to popular whim.
Now, I wouldn't fight it if the will of the people forced me to play
sold-out stadium shows or spend all my time in the studio at triple
scale; I won't fight it if the will of the people locks me and my
bass in my room and tells me to play more quietly, either.  If they
take my bass away, on the other hand.....
IMHumbleO, if you look at music as a biz, that's what you'll get out
of it: biz.  I hate biz.  If you look at music as a pleasurable
experience, that's what you'll get out of it.  I like pleasure.  I'd
feel a little strange asking for anything more.

May the invisible hand sweep you fame if you so desire.

Later,

Josh
From: richardp@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Richard R Prince)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: FOR SALE: Fostex 2016 line mixer
Keywords: 2sp rackmount  2x8 or 1x16
Date: 13 Dec 92 23:55:13 GMT
Distribution: usa

FOR SALE:    Fostex 2016 Line mixer     $110

  2 space rack-mount line mixer.  8x2 or 1x16 for channels. 
  Front AND back inputs.  LED output display.  Used at home
  very sparingly for about 2 months.  See Musicians Friend
  (or others) catalog for more complete description.  In
  original box with manual.  About $300 new when I bought
  it at the end of October.

  Here's the deal:    If you would like to have this, CALL me
		      to get addresses - (I'm ignoring email) -
		      then when I receive cash or cashiers check
		      I will send it UPS to you (the $10 in $110
		      is for the approximate shipping fee) and
		      you should have it in 2 days max.

  (~7:30am-3:30pm left coast time)   phone 503-627-1899    Rick
From: fiedler@netcom.com (Dragon (David Fiedler))
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Dr. Demento?
Date: 18 Dec 92 03:38:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: InfoPro Systems: Writers, Consultants, and Dragons

jay@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Jay Kadis) writes:

>Does anyone have a mailing address for Dr. Demento? 

Yes, in fact I do.


Oh! You *wanted* it. OK: PO Box 884, Culver City, CA 90232.
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From: jhalvers@plains (Jon Halverson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Music Equipments for sale
Date: 14 Dec 92 05:22:00 GMT
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Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network
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  Someone should buy his GE-7, I have one and it's GREAT! and no I'm not
getting paid to say this.
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.makers.synth,rec.music.synth,ll,rec.music.marketplace,phl.forsale,ne.forsale
From: wanderer@camelot.bradley.edu (Kevin Murphy)
Subject: Re: cassete tape speed (trivia tidbit)
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: na
Date: 12 Dec 92 21:54:23 GMT


>10.5 inch or small reels... 7.5 or 15 inches per second (compared to less than 2 ips for cassette decks).

Just for trivia, cassette decks go at 1 7/8 ips.  (some go at 3 3/4 too)
From: barothwe@floyd.cca.cr.rockwell.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: WANTED: Power Soak -OR- Red Box -OR- ???...
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:06:25 GMT
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I'm looking to acquire something along the lines of a Power Soak
or Red Box Cabinet Simulator.

The reason is two-fold:

	1.  I have a Fender Princeton Reverb amp that I'd like
	    to record without a microphone.

	2.  I need to feed the output of a Power Soak (or equiv.)
	    into a Sonic Maximizer 422A, which only has line level
	    inputs.

If you have anything like this you'd be willing to part with, let
me know.

If you've got a better idea, let me know.

Please respond directly to me with email in addition to posting, `cuz
I can't read the news as much as I'd like.

Thank you,

Bruce

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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.makers.synth,rec.music.synth,alt.rave,rec.music.industrial,misc.wanted,misc.forsale
From: ted schwantsky= the enhanced one <tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: wanted: roland tr909 drum machine
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 02:33:41 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

this is really stupid and worthless question (since i know that many will laugh
at my feeble attempt at trying to find this drum machine) but i am at least
attempting.

does anybody, anybody, have a roland tr909 drum machine for sale?

please respond immediately. if you have a local "tradin times" or other used
goods classified ads paper, please keep your eyes open ....


thanks!



sines
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From: gkwan@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Greg Kwan)
Subject: Re: Jazz Bass Schematic?
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:11:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.130949.28877@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mtaylor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark Taylor) writes:
>In article <Bz212I.5rq@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> tonyr@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FIL
>E (Tony Reis) writes:
>>I currently play a '76 Fender Jazz Bass. The controls have been re-wired
>>from:
>
>Someone recently asked about a modification printed some years ago (in
>Guitar Player?) to change a Jazz Bass controls from Neck Volume, Bridge
>Volume, and Tone to Master Volume, Pickup Mix, and Tone.  Does anyone
>have the docs on doing this?

It's reprinted in the book _Electric Bass Guitar_ (revised edition),
Hal Leonard Publishing Corp., 1989 in the Bass Modification chapter.
$14.95 ISBN 0-88188-907-5. It's a decent book, IMHO.

Apparently it originally appeared in the June 1987 _Guitar Player_
magazine.

If there's interest, I may be prodded into typing the info here (it's
only a couple of pages, mostly drawings/schematics).

greg

gkwan@balboa.eng.uci.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
From: jamesh@netcom.com (James Hightower)
Subject: Re: "Farting", "fat" sound - how to get it?
Keywords: flatulence bullfrogs
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 08:16:21 GMT

rgonzal@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Ralph Gonzalez) writes:


>I'm trying to figure out whether I need a new guitar (I've got an
>aluminum-neck fretless Kramer) or some kind of effects to get this
>sound: a very punchy, "fat" sound, kind of like a tuba. I've heard it
>on several recordings - for example Lou Reed's "New Sensations"
>(Fernando Saunders on bass). I'm pretty sure you need a fretless for
>this sound.

>Can someone tell me whether I need a bass which costs as much as a car
>or just a good Precision? I suspect the reason I'm not getting this
>sound from my Kramer has to do with the overly-rigid aluminum neck,
[...]
I don't think it's your neck, I have an alu-neck Kramer Duke, and
I get a VERY fat sound... I'm running through a Blue Tube preamp,
a Soundcraftsman power amp, and into a Carvin 4x12 guitar cab loaded
with stamped frame 200 watt Emenance speaker wired in phase. I get a
fairly plain, flat sound with 15" cabs, (Ive tried Acoustic and Kustom)
but the 4x12 really growls. I've tried Marshall guitar cabs, with the
same result,, but I don't trust them to absorb a lot of power.
  Anyway, before you throuw out your bass, you might try talking your
local guitar player into letting you plug into his 4x12. Check to see
if it's in phase first, (all four cones move the same way when signal
or a 9v is applied) since the volume of an out-of-phase cab doesn't
change as the cones move, which MIGHT allow the cones to move far
enough to hurt themselvs.
		-- JJH

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
From: rost@tecrus.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Subject: Re: Steinberger Owners - Question on Tuning Jaws
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 18 DEC 92 08:56:10    


In article <1992Dec17.224901.21539@miki.pictel.com>, harling@miki.pictel.com (Dan Harling) writes...
>Steinberger's interest in its customers apparently ends after the money
>changes hands.  I can understand that they stand to make more profit
>putting a five-string tuning knob into a five-string bass, rather than
>selling it individually as a part, but with that kind of support, there
>will soon be enough used Steinbergers on the market to run them out of
>business.  I'd like to see it, anyway; Steinberger makes good
>equipment, but no company with such lousy customer support deserves
>patronage for very long.
> 

I'd like to mentioon that Steinberger was recently relocated to Nashville and
consolidated with Gibson (who bought the company some years ago).  As Gibson
has had some really asinine concepts on customer service and marketing over the
years this is not necessarily a good thing.  

Another horror story from a friend of mine: he sent a single pickup X-series
guitar back to the factory to have the body routed for two more pickups.  After
a long delay, they admitted thay had *lost* the body (!!) so they sent him a
brand new one.  Part of the screwup was that they moved from Brooklyn to
Nashville while they had his guitar, something he discovered when he called the
Brooklyn number to follow up and found it disconnected (talk about major
shocks!).

On the other hand, another friend bought a Q5 and was having intonation
problems he traced to some bad workmanship on the neck.  He returned the bass
and two weeks later had it back with a new neck, no charge.

>I hate to think what will happen when something breaks on my GL-2 guitar!

If you bought it recently, there's now a lifetime warranty on L-series guitars
and basses, so as long as they stay in business, you're all set.

					Brian Rost @tecrus.enet.dec.com

					508-568-6115

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From: kirkenda@eecs.cs.pdx.edu (Steve Kirkendall)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Re: I like BASS melodies!!!
Date: 13 Dec 92 00:59:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdxgate.6560

georged@meaddata.com (George Dibos) writes:
>Can anyone recommend any other recordings that, like Hamm, emphasize that
>big, round-wound, BASS sound?  As in, the melody is kept going on the low
>strings/low register?

You *MUST* give Michael Manring a listen.  On the Windham Hill label, but
still pretty lively.  He has some no-dub soloes that'll make your jaw drop.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
From: battlec@cs.rpi.edu (Clark Battle)
Subject: Re: Chapman stick
Keywords: Im really interested in buying a stick.Could anyone E-mail me information about
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:32:18 GMT

In article <BzD156.Hro@news.chalmers.se>, h0271@mtek.chalmers.se (K.G) writes:

|>   P.S. The bassplayer in D.A.D uses a 2-string bass,and he seems to be 
|>        doing fine.My recomendation is that you spend your time practicing instead
|>        of complaing about other peoples preferences D.S
|>        

There is/was a japaneese company called Atlansia that made the most innovative
and beautiful basses Ive ever seen.  They made a one string bass!! They also had 
such niceities as individual string vibrato levers, radical figerboard radiuses
(radii?),  shock apsorbing end pins, individual string pickups with adjustible
pole orientation, acoustic bodies, machine heads that swing out of the way when
not in use, and a 10 year guarantee!!!   The downside...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!
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From: fredh@cv.hp.com (Fred Handloser)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass,alt.guitar.bass,rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Sabine Rack-Tuner ?????
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:19:36 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
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W Webb Pickersgill (webb@chopin.udel.edu) wrote:

: 	The Sabine doesn't look as nice but has a chromatic readout.  In other
: words you can tune to any note, chromatics or not. 

I don't know about the Korg, but I believe the Sabine just has
lights that indicate how close you are to "in tune".  The first
tuner I bought was a Fender that had these lights and I really
had a hard time using it with my bass.  A friend has an old
Korg with a meter and it is much easer to tune my bass with
this tuner.  I traded my Fender tuner for a Matrix tuner with 
a meter and this works well also.  The Fender may have had 
problems and the Sabine may work well,  but you should try
to check the Sabine out before buying it to make sure it
works well with a bass.   Musician's Friend has 30 day
money back policy so if you get it through them and it doesn't
work for you you should be able to send it back.  Check with
them to make sure this item is returnable.  There are a few
items they state that are not covered by this policy.

Let us know which one you get and how you like it.

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  fredh@cv.hp.com   
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass,alt.guitar.bass,rec.music.makers
From: rfries@sceng.ub.com (Robert Fries)
Subject: Re: Sabine Rack-Tuner ?????
Organization: Ungermann Bass
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:57:12 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.181936.2777@hpcvusn.cv.hp.com> fredh@cv.hp.com (Fred Handloser) writes:

>W Webb Pickersgill (webb@chopin.udel.edu) wrote:

>:      The Sabine doesn't look as nice but has a chromatic readout.  In other
>: words you can tune to any note, chromatics or not. 

>I don't know about the Korg, but I believe the Sabine just has
>lights that indicate how close you are to "in tune".  The first
>tuner I bought was a Fender that had these lights and I really
>had a hard time using it with my bass.  A friend has an old
>Korg with a meter and it is much easer to tune my bass with
>this tuner.  I traded my Fender tuner for a Matrix tuner with 
>a meter and this works well also.  The Fender may have had 
>problems and the Sabine may work well,  but you should try
>to check the Sabine out before buying it to make sure it
>works well with a bass.   Musician's Friend has 30 day
>money back policy so if you get it through them and it doesn't
>work for you you should be able to send it back.  Check with
>them to make sure this item is returnable.  There are a few
>items they state that are not covered by this policy.

>Let us know which one you get and how you like it.

>  --------------------------------------------------------------------
>  Fred Handloser
>  Corvallis, Oregon
>  fredh@cv.hp.com   

I returned a Sabine (not rack-mount) to Musician's Friend. It didn't work
as well as my old cheap Korg (with a meter).
My main complaint was that it took too long to figure out which string I was 
on, and didn't lock on as well as my Korg. Also, I find the mechanical
meter easier to follow than the flashing lights on the Sabine.
So, back it went.

Robert


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