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From: david@ganglion.ann-arbor.mi.us (David Hwang)
Subject: Re: ACURA VIGOR CD CHANGER IN
Organization: D.J. Services
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 14:13:14 GMT

In article <9680.74.uupcb@cutting.hou.tx.us> erich.lim@cutting.hou.tx.us (Erich Lim)  writes:
>-> I've figured out that the CD Changer that Acura sells for the Vigor
>-> is made by Alpine.  What I can't figure out is how to get the factory
>-> radio to go into CD mode.  I know the controls are built into the
>-> radio.  The dealer told me that once the CD changer is plugged in the
>-> buttons on the radio perform a dual function.  Yesterday I went to a
>-> stereo shop and had them hookup a Alpine changer.  There was power to
>-> the unit (the Vigor comes pre-wired for a CD changer), but we could
>-> not figure out how to get the radio to switch to CD mode!
>->
>-> Has anyone installed a CD changer in a Vigor?  If so can you provide
>-> me with information on how to switch the radio to CD mode.
>
>  Here's the deal on the stock radio.  There's a din plug on the back
>with a gray cap over it.  That needs to be taken out and a cable from
>the CD changer to the din input(on the radio) are to be connected.  The
>Din cable can ONLY be purchased from your Honda/Acura dealer.
>Authorized Alpine dealers don't sell them.   Did you buy the CD changer
>from the Acura dealer or retail??  That should be it, one simple cable
>and it should work.  The panel of the stock head unit will sense the
>input and should automatically configure the radio to work in dual mode
>so there shouldn't be other controller to run the disc player, or maybe
>there is.  I really only know how the Single Disc factory Alpine works,
>but I guess the changer would be the same.
>
>
>Erich Lim
>                                                                              

Some of the above is correct.  I've been through this already.
The changes in Acura autos are made by 3 manufacturers (Alpine,
Pioneer and Clarion, I think).  Anyways, the controller boards
are the same but the audio decoder is custom made for Acura.
I.E. putting in an Alpine CD changer will work, but the sound
will not be right.  In my case, I had a 6-disc Alpine from a
previous installation sitting around.  I stuck it in the backk
of the Legend and fired it up.  Worked like a charm, but the
L/R balance and the bass balancee was way off.  Put in the 
Acura changer and it worked fine with the same discs.  Bottom
line is that these other changers will function but will not
sound right.  If you are willing to put up with the sound
deficiency to save a couple of hundred bucks, the selection 
button is the AM/FM button.   When you have a changer it 
cycles through the CD Player after FM.  I talked with the
OEM department at Alpine (1-800-ALPINE1) for this information.
They were very UNhelpful in terms of giving information and
I had to pull teeth to get what I got ("proprietary" information).

Best of luck,
David Hwang

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1050 Wall Street, Suite 10C   //           Telephone: 313/663-5557
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: harling@pictel.com (Dan Harling)
Subject: Re: Passive or Attack Belts
Organization: PictureTel Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:58:09 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.185145.20384@cabot.balltown.cma.COM> welty@cabot.balltown.cma.COM (richard welty) writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.150708.17048@pmafire.inel.gov> russ@pmafire.inel.gov (Russ Brown) writes:
>
>>1. What are the safety disadvantages of the motorized seat belts?
>
>I.  the mount points are often not `geometrically suitable' for proper
>shoulder harness fit
>
>II. the lap belts usually must be manually fastened; even long time,
>habitual seat belt wears find themselves forgetting to fasten the lap
>belts.

I found this to be the case a couple of weeks ago.  One of my cars has
separate shoulder and lap belts, and the other one predates shoulder
belts (!), and I *NEVER* forget to buckle at least the lap belt.
However, when I rode in a friend's Saturn with motorized shoulder
belts, I noticed halfway through the trip that I had never buckled my
lap belt!

Even for those who never use seat belts, the automatic shoulder belts
are a hazard.  Unless you disable them entirely, you will find yourself
wearing just a shoulder belt, which may keep you in the car, but may
also break your neck.

Personally, I'm skeptical about the effectiveness of an airbag if I am
already accustomed to wearing seat belts, but as long as they provide
solid belts I couldn't care less *what* kind of explosives the
manufacturer installed in the steering column.  It's just too bad they
add $500 to the price of the car for something I probably wouldn't need
even if I *did* get into a head-on collision!
____________________________________________________________________________
Daniel A. Harling                        (harling@pictel.com)
PictureTel Corp.             Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of
Peabody, MA  01960                 PictureTel, but they ought to be!
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
From: ssr@siberia.cypress.com (Bapcha/FPGA)
Subject: Turbocharging a '91 Honda CRX Si....
Originator: ssr@reddog
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor, San Jose, CA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:32:52 GMT

How could I turbocharge my '91 CRX Si.... I really love that car - but
heck - I could use some turbo boost....

How much will it cost me to get it installed ?  Do I lose my factory
warranty if I do that before 36K miles ?  And how much hp would I
gain for how much of a loss in fuel economy....

Just toying with the idea....

THanks in advance....


-- 
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3901 N.  First Strasse
San Jose,  CA 95134, 408-943-2719
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: seldon@milton.u.washington.edu (Hari Seldon)
Subject: Saturn... Good or Bad... Recommendations...
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 02:36:28 GMT

I am in the market for a new car, and WILL NOT buy an american car save 1..

I have been impressed by the saturn for a couple of reasons, construction,
warranty, and the way the company works.  I have read buisness reports, their
own literature, Consumer Reports, etc..  But the salesman said the best people
to ask, are people who have them, so I am asking anybody, good or bad.  Let
me know how this car is..

You might wonder why this abhorrance to american made cars..  Experience.. is
my answer.  If the rest of the american car companies could be like Saturn
espouses itself to be, and seems to be in truth, then maybe it would be
different.  But it is not..  I have a Dodge Shadow ES 1988 (I have been follow-
ing the debate on the I HATE MY DODGE) and if she got a lemon I got a rotten
lemon..

Let me give you the list of stuff I have repaired, mind you, it was brand new.

4 alternators
3 batteries
power steering rebuilt
transmission rebuilt
cracked radiator
2 water pumps
3 thermostats
and get this 1 2.2 Turbo engine block w/head

And it still runs like sh*t, and I have taken it to the factory up till the
warranty ran out.  Lotta good it did me!!  I can't afford it, but I gotta get
out of this car before it kills me and my sanity...  Thing is, if I didn't
love it so much before, I might have wisend up a bit earlier, ya know!!

I have to tend to agree with the mechanics argument, most of them don't give a
sh*t, I am still searching for one who will talk to me straight, and talk to
me, not at me..  I am not stupid..

Seldon
Xref: sparky rec.autos:21748 rec.autos.tech:12428
From: james@koko.csustan.edu (Jonas Grumpy)
Newsgroups: osu.for-sale,rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: I NEED 2nd CAR..$2-300..ADVICE?..SELLER??
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:37:01 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: CSU Stanislaus

In article <1992Sep8.202837.11277@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mgarber@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Max D Garber) writes:
>
>If you could help me out I would appreciate it very much.
>
>I need to find a second car that i can spend about $200 or $300 on and not have
>it sitting in the shop all of the time.
>
>I was looking at an '83 Subaru GL (2WD) with 97k with a fair body/interior that
>was sold out from underneath me for $250.
>
>Please email me if you can recommend a particular vehicle or have one to sell.
>
>I am partial to the two door hatchback style, but an open to suggestions!!!
>
>Thanks a million-
>
>THE HYPEMAN


Pre 78 Mercury Capri. VERY Tough! Fast, good handling and good looks. Very
reliable and safe. This is a german car and is not to be confused in
any way with the later Mustang/Capri.
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: singh@r-node.gts.org (Rajendra Singh)
Subject: Re: I HATE MY DODGE
Organization: Public Access UNIX Information System
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 19:34:54 GMT

In article <7740217@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> mort@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Mortensen) writes:
>	Shellie, get rid of that lemon.  I call it that using the full
>	definition of lemon.  A car or truck which has persistant problems.
>	All car companies have them in their endless fleet of products.
>	The only known cure, is to PUNT!  get rid of it.  Trade it, sell it,
>	trash it, do anything but keep it.  You will only have problems 
>	as long as you keep it.  

On the contrary, I love my Chrysler Daytona (Shelby).  I've had it for 5
trouble free years now.  I only have 50,000 K on it though.  Are you saying
that generally speaking these cars have problems?  If so, then I guess I'm
an exception.
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From: jslee@nrtc.nrtc.northrop.com (John Lee <jslee>)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: My Beretta's Heater doesn't work
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:04:39 GMT
Reply-To: jslee@nrtc.nrtc.northrop.com (John Lee)
Distribution: na

> toddwall@rock.concert.net (Todd R Wall -- Catholic Diocese of Raleigh -- Computer Services) writes:
>
>	I heater doesn't work anymore on my '89 Beretta.  Whenever I have the
>A/C on and I turn the knob all the way to HOT, it remains just as cold as when
>I began.  The same thing happens when I have it on VENT.  
>
>	I've checked the wires going into the knob and they are all connected.

The hot/cold air mixing door on the Beretta is operated with a small
electric motor. With the key on, mode knob not in off, and the blower
fan in LOW, operating the temp knob, listen carefully for the stepper
motor. If you don't, the motor is bad or the door is stuck.
JSLee
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: lester@naomi.b23b.ingr.com (Les Bartel)
Subject: Re:    Fog out of A/C Ducts
Reply-To: lester@naomi.b23b.ingr.com
Organization: Dazix, An Intergraph Company
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:56:36 GMT

In article <92252.215420U53519@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U53519@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
|> The Air Conditioning ducts on my Infiniti G20 blow a white, mist-like fog
|> when the air has been on for a while.  No odor.  The flow seems inter-
|> mittent, as if a result of the compressor cycling on/off.  Any ideas
|> on what's going on?  Is it Freon, and am I about to die from inhaling it?
|> 
|> Thanks!
|> 
|> -- Ray Sparrowe

I had this happen on two of my cars a '76 Pinto and an '81 Mustang.  In
both cases, the heater core was corroded (externally visible after I
removed the core) and had just begun leaking.

 - les

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Dazix, An Intergraph Company	uunet!ingr!b23b!naomi!lester
Huntsville, AL			(205) 730-8537

There are three kinds of people in the world:
Those who can count, and those who can't.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: ganek@apollo.hp.com (Dan Ganek)
Subject: Re: Buying Cars from Auction Yards
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:32:11 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <13744.2aaf8443@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> hjz@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>During the times when I was looking at the used car market, either for 
>myself or for my friends, I found out that there might be a few number of 
>people there making money by buying and selling used automobiles. Now that 
>I had spent my fortune into my Firebird, I find it is quite tempting to 
>join into that group. 
>So, will I make any money?????
>Where am I going to buy? Auction yard? Actually I have been to auction 
>yards for several times. But I am still not really sure about the price 
>there. It seems that sometimes the bidding price is even worse than you can 
>get from a privite party. And also there are these closed auctions, which is 
>to dealers only, and the open auctions, which open to general publics. Any 
>tricks hidding inside?
>It might be difficult, but I am willing to give a try. Any advise will be 
>greatly appriciated.
>
>Jizhong 

A couple of things to check on first:

1) Will the state consider you a used car dealer? In Mass. selling 4 or more
   cars/year requires a dealer's license.

2) Local ordinances?  A guy down the street from us always has a used car for
   sale on his front front lawn. Most consider it an eyesore but it appears to
   be legal. One summer he had three. Lasted only a few days, I'm sure someone 
   complained to the selectman. I was about to.
              
/dan
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: mellum@skyler.mavd.honeywell.com
Subject: Re: Anybody into 64-73 musclecars 
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:10:34 GMT

I have both, a modern muscle car ('86 Buick Grand National) and a real 
muscle car ('72 Buick GS455 convertible). While the GN is fast (12.51 @107) and
comfortible to drive and gets 25mpg, there is still something about driving the
big V8's. The feeling you get from massive amounts of torque and the sound of
the V8. Nothing can replace it. Given thehorrible scenario of only being able
to have one, I'd choose the GS.

Ron
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Subject: CAR SHOW, NJ, Sept 20
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 20:45:49 GMT


			2nd INTERNATIONAL AUTO FEST
	 	     CAR SHOW - BUDD LAKE, NEW JERSEY

When:  Sunday September 20, 1992

Where: VASA Park, Wolfe Road, Budd Lake, NJ (Exit 26 on westbound I-80)

Vehicle eligibilty: 1981 and older (Most are 50s,60s, 70s)

To Pre-register your car send $6 payable to VASA CAR SHOW, 29 Netcong Road,
       Budd Lake, NJ  07828

For more information:  Call Linda or Bill Sohl (201-691-8116) or
                               Bob Kelly (201-347-6348)

Vendors welcome also: Call for details

VASA park is a shaded grove area with playground.  The cars will be on
display in a shaded grove area.  VASA is a non-profit Scandanavian
cultural organization.

Standard Disclaimer- Any opinions, etc. are mine and NOT my employer's.
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From: cha@csgo.usc.edu (Seungho Cha)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Dura Lube
Date: 14 Sep 1992 18:06:13 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: csgo.usc.edu
Summary: how good is it and how to order it?
Keywords: additive

I saw an ad of DuraLube on a local TV one time.
It was compared with Slick-50, STP, etc. and was claimed very good.
Are there any Dura Lube users out there?
How good is it?  And, how can I order it?  (it's mail/phone order only,
as I remember.)
Thanks.

Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: welty@cabot.balltown.cma.COM (richard welty)
Subject: Re: front disc brake question
Organization: New York State Institute for Sebastian Cabot Studies
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:49:42 GMT

In article <8SEP199214194040@zeus.tamu.edu> jmm2948@zeus.tamu.edu (Jeffrey M. Mayzurk) writes:
>In article <ILH.92Sep8091655@winnie-the-pooh.lcs.mit.edu>, ilh@lcs.mit.edu writes...
>>Perhaps this disk-brake bashing depends on the specific car
>>manufacturer, no?  Perhaps SOME companies skimp when it comes to
>>rotors...
...
> Anyone that
>thinks that drum brakes are superior to discs obviously does not know what
>they are talking about.

rather than contribute to an extremely silly discussion, i'm simply
going to provide some references:

_The Brake Handbook_, Fred Puhn, HP Books
_Prepare to Win_, Carroll Smith
_Tune to Win_, Carroll Smith
_Engineer to Win_, Carroll Smith

these esteemed gentlemen don't particularly like drum brakes, and
they have backgrounds that are probably orders of magnitudes more
impressive than those of anyone posting to this network.

cheers,
  richard
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: djs1539@cc.utah.edu (SEGAL, DAVID JAY)
Subject: Re: Hyndai Excel
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: 11 Sep 1992 22:56 MST  

In article <Bu4tHA.EzH@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v069pff7@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Snake-Eyes) writes...
{ 
{I am thinking about purchasing an '88 Hyndai excel. can anyone who owns one 
{tell me what they think about it...thanks
{-Joel


Well, I don't own an '88, but I just bought an '89, and actually I was 
scanning the news to see if anyone else had anything to say about them.
I love it.  The Consumer Reports Guide to Used Cars rates it very 
highly, about the same or maybe slightly less overall than a Honda
Civic of that year, but you can't touch a same year Honda for the 
price of a Hyundai.  The phrase which sticks in my mind the best from
Consumer Reports was "Sirloin features at hamberger prices."  

Stay away from the automatic transmission; it accelerates sluggishly
and shifts abruptly.  The basic 3dr hatchback of '88 shouldn't sell
for more than about $2600.  Mind you, the "low-book" loan value of
the car will probably be much (like $1000) less than that.

Otherwise, they are great on gas, cheap to buy, and cheap to insure.
Good luck!

- Dave Segal (dave.segal@m.cc.utah.edu)

Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: hsd@swlrat.msd.ray.com (HERBERT DASILVA)
Subject: Re: I HATE SHABBY MECHANICS (was: I HATE MY DODGE)
Organization: Raytheon Company, Tewksbury, MA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:23:17 GMT

barry@geovision.gvc.com (Barry Comer) writes:

>In <1992Sep3.170154.29233@swlvx2.msd.ray.com> hsd@swlrat.msd.ray.com (HERBERT DASILVA) writes:

>>  The real problem is that all mechanics care about is your $$$$, and not
>>  your happiness.  After all, if they don't do it right the first time,
>>  you'll be back later to have it fixed again, and they get paid again!!
>>  It really pisses me off that if you don't know what you want, you'll get
>>  whatever they feel like giving you!!!  There is precious little
>>  professionalism in the auto industry, so when you find a good mechanic or
>>  a good dealership, it's important to tell the whole neighborhood, so they
>>  get all the business, and the shabby shops get as little as possible!!

>	Give me a MAJOR break!!!  I used to be a mechanic at a GM dealership
>	for five years.  It really pisses me off everytime some one starts
>	ragging off about "ALL MECHANICS BEING SCUM".  I know it only takes a
>	few to wreck the image, but there are more honest mechanics out there
>	than you might think.  Think how long it takes to become a mechanic,
>	all the training and the work involved to keep up on the latest
>	models.
>	$0.02
>	Barry

  I really wish I could give you a major break, but I can't.  I've seen more
  problems arise as a result of "repairs" than I care to relate.  In fact,
  I've seen more problems "invented" for the sake of doing extra, unnecessary
  work to make extra money than I'd care to remember, because doing so makes
  me feel sick.  Since I have a reputation as a car "nut", folks I work with
  often ask my advice or tell me about repairs they are having done, and the
  plain truth is that people are getting SHAFTED big time, every day, and they
  have no idea it's happening, because they don't know enough about the cars
  they drive to make the call.  They just have to trust that the
  "professional" they are dealing with is giving them the straight scoop.

  On the other hand, a mechanic you can trust, who actually cares about your
  happiness and your car is a tremendous find, and I strive every day to
  direct people to these true professionals.

  My apologies if you believe you qualify for this distinction, and the broad
  generalization I made about "All Mechanics Being Scum", it's just that I
  have found a truly professional mechanic to be the exception, rather than
  the rule.  Also note that I realize that often it is the attitude of the
  owners of dealerships/service stations that are the problem, and not the
  competance of the mechanic.

	Herb "Mopar Maniac" DaSilva
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: jlysagh@hubcap.clemson.edu (james joseph lysaght)
Subject: Re: Passive or Attack Bel
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:35:58 GMT

david.bonds@cutting.hou.tx.us (David Bonds)  writes:

>Seriously, I've heard something about a family of girl killed in an auto
>accident was suing carmaker x because the passive belts in the girl's
>car "made her forget" to buckle the lap belt.  She was in an accident, 
>without the lap belt on, and due to the fact the lower part of her body
>flew forward unrestrained, while the upper half stayed in place due
>to the automatic shoulder harness, she was decapitated.

This happened here in clemson.  I went to a party where a girl got a
ride home from a drunk.  The drunk took an exit ramp at 85 mph in a ford
escort with motorized attack belts.  The girl did not have a lap belt on
and was decapitated.  The driver and two people in the back seat all had
lap belts on and were totaly unharmed.  The family tried to sue ford,
They lost because there was a little sticker on the dashboard right in
front of the passenger warning them to put on the lap belt.  My brothers
escort has this sticker.  It is so small you can not read it from the
seat, you have to lean forward to read it.  Also, it was at night,
personally I have difficulty reading in the dark!

>- Dave Bonds 

Jim
From: epc1@quads.uchicago.edu (Merlin)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: car insurance, big surprise for me!!!!
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:01:27 GMT
Reply-To: epc1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Sep15.160540.6125@hubcap.clemson.edu> jlysagh@hubcap.clemson.edu (james joseph lysaght) writes:
>premium did NOT go up, in fact, the letter contained a check stateing
>that they had over-estimated the costs of operation for the past year so
>received a dividend check from them AND my premiuim has gone down
>complete with a letter thanking me for being such a good customer and
>for taking care of my vehicle in such a way as to help keep premiums
>down for all the customers!!!!   Wow!!!! I was shocked to get all
>this!!!!!!!
>
>Any others out there receive such checks recently?
>

Hey, the rest of the world isn't living in the Twilight Zone like you
are! :-)


-- 
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University of Chicago Class of 1994
math & economics major
epc1@midway.uchicago.edu
From: maurice@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com (Maurice Liang)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:07:55 GMT
Subject: Re: Info on American Classics Required
Organization: HP Pacific Technology Park - Sunnyvale, Ca.