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From: mcdata@teal.csn.org (David Beal)
Subject: NW 311 error message 
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:51:26 GMT

On one of my NW 3.11 servers I get :
Network address change detected for server_name_here

I have just installed flex/ip on the server, and these messages started
coming up. The messages manual says that the server's address was changed
for some reason, and there's no action to take, but there has to be some
behind the messages (once every 30 secs or so) coming out.

Any ideas?
From: eprie@news.msen.com  (Eric W. Priebe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Help with multi server printing
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 17:54:33
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
Reply-To: eprie@hcia.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: dingo.aa.hcia.com
Keywords: multi-server printing
NNTP-Software: PC/TCP NNTP

Hi all,
   I've two Novell servers, both running 3.11.  I want to set up a queue
   on the first, to be serviced and printed by a printer attached to the
   second.

   Im doing this 'temporary' so all the work is done through the
   status/control (like the manual says to do.)

   I've created my queue, but run into a problem with attaching the first
   file server to the print server.  It asks for a password, and I key in
   the print servers password (I've also tried the supervisor password)
   but I get the following error message:

   Error
     PSATTACHPRINTSERVERTOFILESERVER returned error 19
   Description
     The description for this error is not available.


   Does anyone know what this means?


TIA - Eric
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From: mflynn@sales.GBA.NYU.EDU (Michael J Flynn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Network'd Modem Communication Progams?
Keywords: modem network
Date: 11 Jan 93 02:11:07 GMT
Organization: NYU

I have a Telebit 9600 modem connected to serial port one on a Lan Port II
hooked onto a novell network.  I can get lp2redir and lp2map and get com1:
redirected to the modem.

What do I need to do in order to get ProComm or some other program to work with 
this setup, or do I need a network specific version of Procomm (or whatever
communications program) to do this?

Thanks
From: dehaan@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jason DeHaan)
Subject: Charon 4.0 & mail from the command line
Summary: Is there an easy way to send mail to Charon from the command line?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 06:02:18 GMT

Hi,

I've been playing around with a batch file that keeps a log of all alterations
to autoexec.bat and config.sys files on a 3.11 file server.  It works great,
but to put icing on the cake, I would like the batch file to mail me every 
time it adds to the log.  Is there a program that allows users to mail files
from the command line which works with Charon 4.0?  I looked at pmail, and 
though it looks like an excellent program, I didn't see any easy way to do
this.

Thanks in advance.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: ceh@leland.Stanford.EDU (Carey Heckman)
Subject: Re: MHS 1.5 User Agents
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 05:41:20 GMT

In article <C0C2EB.LvG@sse.ie> keogh@sse.ie (Paul Keogh) writes:
>Hi,
>
>I'm looking for a list of MHS 1.5 conformant user agents. I've already asked
>Novell for this information but to no avail. So, if anybody has any info, I'd
>be grateful if you passed it on to me.

Just to keep the vocabulary consistent (and correct), you're probably looking
for NetWare SMF v70 conformant user agents.  MHS 1.5 is a messaging engine
which supports that API version.  NetWare Global Messaging supports both
NetWare SMF v70 and the much improved and useful NetWare SMF v71.

As for the list, you want the NetWare Messaging Solutions Guide.  The sales
guys at Avon House, Berkshire UK (011-44-344-860400, if memory serves me),
should be able to get one to you.  Besides user agents you'll see lots of
utilities and other neat stuff, which is considerably better than a bunch
of press releases, trade show speeches, and other vapor behavior.

Carey Heckman
ceh@leland.stanford.edu
From: dseeman@novell.com (Daniel Seeman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Slow Printing From Mac2Novell
Date: 5 Jan 93 23:48:11 GMT
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia

In article <1993Jan5.225703.1522@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> firebird@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (larry rosen) writes:
>We have Netware 3.11 running on an ALR 486/33, 37Mb RAM, NE3200 Board
>and DL2000 board serving about a dozen PC's and 50 MAC's.  Some of the 
>Macs are running ethertalk and the rest are on localtalk.  The PCs are
>all on ethernet.  There is an HPLJ3Si printer with a network board in it
>running in postscript mode and it is shared by PC's and Macs. 
>
>The Problem:
>
>Printing from any PC is a snap, the print job usually comes out of the
>printer before you can walk over to it, but from a MAC that is on ethernet
>the PrintMonitor shows the message "SPOOLING JOB TO SERVER/SERVER_Q" and 
>stays there for a very long time.  Small documents may print but
>larger ones or graphics time out before ATPS says it has received the job.
>In fact it is 5-10 times slower printing to the Novell printer on ethernet
>than to a printer on Localtalk. It only seems to affect the macs that 
>are on ethertalk.  Any ideas on what's going on here?  What considerations
>are there for a net which is running Ethernet_II and Ethernet_snap on 
>the NE3200, and Localtalk on the DL2000?
>
>Thanks for any help.

Hi,

You have already done half of the troubleshooting needed.  You have identified
that the performance problem is pronounced during the time needed to send the
print job to the NetWare queue.  The best thing to do at this point is to get
a packet trace and find out what process is taking so long.  If you need a trace
utility, let me know and I can send one to you (although in this case you will
need to send the trace to me so I can decode it).

Let me know if you need my help...

Think Peace...

Dan Seeman
Novell
Walnut Creek, Ca.
From: holger@perm.geologie.uni-freiburg.de (Holger Hussy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: NetWare for Mac is answering slowly
Date: 4 Jan 1993 15:59:33 +0100
Organization: "Geologisches Institut, Freiburg, Germany"
NNTP-Posting-Host: perm.geologie.uni-freiburg.de

Hello,

In the Mac- chooser our 3.11 server is responding very slowly. I have 
to open the chooser very often until the server is shown.
Is this a timing problem between the Macs and the Netware for
MacIntosh (2.011)?

Thanks for your help.



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From: altman@cs.sunysb.edu (Jeff Altman)
Subject: Netware ELS -> 2.2 - what is the best approach
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, State U of NY at Stony Brook
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:04:18 GMT

I am interested in upgrading a ELS server to 2.2.

Is this the best (only) approach to use?  
	Backup all data onto tape
	Install 2.2
	Restore data from tape

Or is there a different approach?


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: srinivas@cse.iitb.ernet.in (Srinivas V)
Subject: IPXWATCH : A Protocol Analyzer for Novell Networks 
Organization: Department of Computer Science,IIT, Bombay
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:43:31 GMT

Hi Networkers,
	      We have written a "Protocol Analyzer for Novell's  Protocols ",
	      IPX,SAP,RIP etc. It runs on ethernet class packet drivers.
	      It also has limited diagnostic capabilities. We have tested
	      it on NE1000,NE2000,ARCETHER and WD8003E packet drivers.
	      Let me know the ftp site where I can put it. The zoo'ed file
	      is less than 100k. 

							V.Srinivas and
						        Vishwas Joglekar
						srinivas@cse.iitb.ernet.in
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: kca@engin.umich.edu (Jon Van Oast)
Subject: novell 4.0 doc(s) online anywhere ???
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 16:33:26 EST
Organization: UnderWorld Industries
Keywords: novell 4.0 ftp online docs

does anyone know of an archive where specs/details on new novell 4.0 might
be found?  i have check some of the faq novell sites and come up lost 
(could just be me).

i really only care about details (to hush all the rumors and so forth),
not really availability dates or prices or other type stuff.  just
features and changes (no bindery, etc etc etc.....)

thanks much,
-jon   novell fanatic, but proudly not a cne!  (ha!)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: jverde@bugs.inescn.pt (Isidro Vila Verde)
Subject: Pktdrv exp16 + Netware Lite ?
Keywords: PD,ipxodi
Organization: Inescn-Redes
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 21:21:34 GMT

Hello
Is that possible?
I am trying use LSL + Crynwr PD + ODIPKT + IPXODI 
but ODIPKT return a error : 'Cannot get MLI control entry'

What is wrong ?

My plan is run NWlite and TCPIP simultaneous, i thing that is possible using
pktmux, but first I need run NWlite.

If you can help me send mail to jverde@porthos.inescn.pt now that 
bunny.inescn.pt (a PC machine) is not ready to received mail.

Thanks in advance.
Isidro
From: ak902@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Goette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: NOVELL TRUSTEE RIGHT. Where do they reside?
Date: 7 Jan 1993 06:54:46 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ak902@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Goette)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


Can anyone tell me if the trustee rights associated with directories and
files under Netware v3.11 are stored with the directory using the DET or 
as a property and value for an object in the bindery. My question is in 
reference as to how Novell gains information about trustee rights using
FILER without reading through the entire directory. Sounds like it would
be either stored in the bindery or in memory (loaded when the server starts
up), but my instructor for the System Manager class is stumped. Also, can
anyone tell me why when I create a file (executable) and give it RO,D,Rename
inhibit and Shared rights, I can delete it with a userid that has trustee
rights in the directory. However, when I log on as the user that created the
file, the file mysteriously appears. I typed dir after deleting it with the
Adam (non-creator) userid and it was not in the directory. What gives?
Just a little brain dead to research this farther than this post?

Any replies can be posted here or sent to ak902@cleveland.freenet.edu
Thanks.....
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: mschramm@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael W Schramm)
Subject: Re: Getting ready to upgrade to 3.11
Keywords: advice
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 05:18:22 GMT

In article <Jan12.230642.58633@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> pruett@CS.ColoState.EDU
 (J. L. Pruett) writes:
>I'm getting ready to upgrade our Novell network 2.2 to the
>3.11.  Does anyone have any advice or warnings to give me?


READ THIS GROUP FOR SIX MONTHS!

>
>Thanks
>Jenny
>
>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,bit.listserv.novell,fido.ger.clipper,maus.lang.clipper
From: wnkretz@ikesg1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Oliver Kretzschmar)
Subject: Need C-source or a tool to get direct the NOVELL 3.11 server time
Organization: IKE
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 10:40:24 GMT



    Hey,

    I am looking for a tool or C-source to get the time direct
    from a NOVELL V3.11 server. I need this server time for
    a CLIPPER program that controls time limited accesses.
    Please mail me your informations.

    Thanks for your efforts,

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.mac.system
From: rowley@theporch.raider.net (Michael Rowland)
Subject: Re: NW4Mac: Locking the Desktop?
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 07:47:59 GMT
Organization: The MacInteresteds of Nashville, Tn.

jonathan@rahul.net (Jonathan Heiliger) writes:

> nieland_t@kahuna.asc-yf.wpafb.af.mil wrote:
> 
> : Is there a way to lock the desktop on Netware Volumes under NW4Mac?  
> Basically 
> : I want to reserve the top most directory to changes by the Supervisor and 
> that 
> : includes moving the icons around.
> 
>    I don't think there is anyway to do this.  Just for reference can you 
> actually do it with Apple File Sharing?  It was my understanding that you 
> could still move the icons around on the screen.
>  
Users can move icons around on THEIR screens... but the server's icons 
will not be changed.

jmr

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: TCP/IP routing via the DL-2000 possible?
From: markh@GHOST.MCS.stcloud.msus.edu (Mark Holden)
Date: 6 Jan 93 11:40:05 -0600
Organization: Saint Cloud State University

In article <1ier8lINNqv0@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ce591@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Allan Green) writes:
>1) a box which plugs into the ethernet and localtalk networks
>   and does the business...

	I know of two of these: the Shiva FastPath (formerly Kinetics) and the
Cayman Gatorbox.  Both have their features, but I think I'd go with the
Gatorbox, as it seemed more stable to me, and has some neat features too.

>2) a macintosh which has an ethernet card and special IP software
>   to do the routing... (would this Mac be dedicated to this task
>   or could it be used for other things too?)

	The only product of this type that I can think of is Apple's Internet
Router, which requires a dedicated machine.

>3) FastPath - mentioned by Chris - what is this?  I've not heard of
>   it and cant find it in my Novell "concepts" book...

	It fits in to category one, and it's very much a Mac niche product,
so I'm not terribly surprised that you couldn't find it in the Novell
book.
	I've been out of the mac game for a couple years now, so there are
probably other products I'm not familiar with, and I won't guarentee this
advice is worth any more than I'm charging you. :)

Mark Holden
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Christoph Weber-Fahr [KIT])
Subject: Re: Strange file in users' mail directories
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:27:43 GMT

Hello,

bwen@alfred.carleton.ca (Bing Wen) writes:
>A friend of mine has recently discovered that in the mail directory of
>his LAN account there is a 2-byte file that updates itself each time
>he logs in and comes back after he deletes it. The file contains only
>one Vertical Tabulation symbol (decimal 11, Hex 0B). He asked a few
>other LAN users and they all found the same file in their mail
>directories. They suspect that their mail is monitored by the LAN
>supervisor. Is it possible?

Possible? Of course. So what ?

Before I get technical, allow me some general comments:
It is technically always possible to monitor electronic mail, unless you use
powerful encryption techniques. I also can read my user's mail, and I 
occasionally have to do so (or what would you do with a volume running
out of space because of unread mail from several mailing lists, e.g.).
But, trust me, it is possible to read user's mail without leaving 
any signs of your activities.
All users should be aware of the fact, that
- electronic mail can technically read by everyone involved in the process
  of transmitting it, and
- system adminitrators might read it if necessary to keep the system
  running, but not else.
So in the end, you have to trust the people who run your system - or you 
can't trust the system, too. Spreading wild rumours like the one above
likely offends your system folks. I personally would get VERY angry if I 
heard one of my users ran around telling everyone I would read their mail
on a regular basis.
So go to your LAN adminitrator/supervisor/whatever and politely ask
him. In the end it is his job to keep the system running so that you
can use it to earn the money he is paid with. 

Regarding the technical point, these "Mail"-directories in a novell
system are the only definitely existing user-related directories.
A lot of programs use them to store their setup or configuration
files or marks. Since this file is updated during login, it is most
probably used by a program run from the login script.
If you want to know for sure, check the system login-script.
It is a public readable text-file SYS:PUBLIC\NET$LOG.DAT . All commands 
therein are explained in the Novell online-help database.

So, as a summary, it is possible, but not very likely, that your 
system adminitrator reads your mail. I would not bet on it.

Regards

Christoph Weber-Fahr


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From: dseeman@novell.com (Daniel Seeman)
Subject: Re: NW4MAC Volume Names
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:40:04 GMT

In article <1id8d3INNa0a@terra.cs.waikato.ac.nz> hamish@terra.cs.waikato.ac.nz (Hamish Marson) writes:
>
>Hi. I was under the impression that you could change the name that a volume
>was advertised to a MAC on the finder/chooser. But how? I can't find it.
>
Hi,

In the future, please tell me what version of NW4MAC you are using so I can
taylor my response.  I will give you both answers now to make sure the informat-
ion is complete.

If using NW4MAC v3.x, the name of the volume can be changed using the file 
called VOLNAMES.AFP.  This simple text file is located in the SYS:\SYSTEM direct
ory.  Feel free to edit the file with any text editor.  Notice by default you
will see one line of text ---> SYS=<server_name>.SYS.  You can change this line
and add others for other volumes.  For example to change the SYS volume name
to something like "PRIMARY" and a VOL1 to something like "SECONDARY" your file
would look like this:

SYS=PRIMARY
VOL1=SECONDARY

After you have edited the file, just UNLOAD then re-LOAD AFP.NLM so the new
volume names appear on the desktops of your AFP users (Macintoshes).

If using NW4MAC v2.x, the operation is just as easy.  Just use MacSetUp to
"PREPARE A FILE SERVICE GATEWAY."  When you have entered the TARGET FILE SERVER,
you will be asked to supply an ALIAS for the server which will effectivly rename
your server as it appears on the Macintosh's desktop.  You will need to restart
your 2.x server (to re-load the VAPs) in order for the changes to take affect.
This solution is not as flexible as the 3.x solution for the following reason.

Notice that with 3.x one can change individual volume names.  When using 2.x, 
one does not have this level of flexibility.  All one can do is ALIAS the file
server's name.  The FORMAT of the 2.x volume name is unchanged.  You will always
see <FILE_SERVER_NAME>.SYS as the name for the 2.x (VAPs) SYS volume name.  So
to reiterate, all you are changing is the FILE_SERVER_NAME when using the ALIAS
feature supported with the VAPs.  The volumes on that server (in addition to
the SYS volume) cannot be renamed as they appear on the Macintosh without the
FILE_SERVER_NAME prefix.

I hope this information helps.  I will ask again that in the future you be more
specific about which products (and versions) you are using so I can be more
specific in my responses.  These descriptions can get REALLY LONG REALLY FAST;-)

Think Peace...

Dan Seeman
Novell
Walnut Creek, Ca.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: ntprlr@eskimo.com (NightProwler)
Subject: Re: NetWare C Interface
Organization: Ghost in the Shell
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 06:54:01 GMT

Bill--

I am currently a member of the PDP.  All I had to do was fill out a 
single page form stating who I was, what company I work for and what
kind of products I develop.

As a joke, I filled it out as a self-employed individual.  No company,
and I wasn't developing any products for re-sale.

They admited me to the program almost instantly.  Go figgure.  ;)

As for the product you're looking for, it's called "the Client SDK v4.0",
and it is the development kit you need for developing in C for both DOS 
and Windows.  That's right, one product, two environments.  And (supposedly)
the product has been tested with Borland's C++ 3.1, in C++ mode.  The 
down side is that you have to do an  

	extern "C" {
		#include <novlibraries.h>
	};

to make them work with C++.  (* sigh *)  Well, maybe someday they'll
wise up and do it right.... ;)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Login Replacement
From: soswald@charlie.usd.edu
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:18:29 GMT
Reply-To: soswald@charlie.usd.edu
Organization: The University of South Dakota Computer Science Dept.

I've just implemented Saber Menuing System to replace Novell's Login and menu
and so far, I am extremely happy with it.
It doesn't do so nice a job with error-handling but the help screens you can
author yourself.

-Sandy
a.k.a. Lit'l Cyclone
SOSWALD @charlie.USD.edu
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