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Subject: Re: Bailter Space (was Re: Flying Nun bands
From: phys170@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Michael Albrow)
Date: 7 Sep 92 10:59:14 +1200
 <1992Sep2.151508.620@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> <1992Sep6.021833.3208@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <1992Sep6.021833.3208@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, ralph@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Ralph Brandi) writes:
> In article <1992Sep2.151508.620@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> phys170@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Michael Albrow) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug31.020555.3533@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, ralph@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Ralph Brandi) writes:
>>> Nelshbailterspace was the name of the first EP by Bailter Space,
> 
>>  The band were actually called Nelsh Bailter Space for about the first year
>>and a half of their existence. The first EP was self titled.
> 
> Thanks.  Now, can anyone tell me what the name means?
> 

  I don't know any German, but I was told at the time that it means "Whole
Yummy Universe". Can anyone confirm this?

MDA
From: higham@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Ramones, punk rock, XRaySpex, others (lots)
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:14:17 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

> In article <1992Sep3.150154.28981@gdr.bath.ac.uk> mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf) writes:
> And as for the idea that the Ramones spurred on the Pistols or are comparable
> in any way, I must completely disagree.
> 
> To me the Ramones were a great 3 chord Rock'n'Roll band. They sort of looked
> punk, and they played faster than average, but they were *harmless*. They were
> safe. Their lyrics didn't reflect society's ills - especially for UK'ers.
> When the Ramones went to the UK, I would bet that the only thing that the kids
> could relate to was the volume and speed at which they were playing.
"Now I wanna sniff some glue, now I wanna have somethin' to do, all the kids
wanna sniff some glue, all the kids want somethin' to do" was very
controversial when it was released wasn't it, how about, "Beat on the brat with
a baseball bat..", "You're a loudmouth baby, you better shut it up, I'm gonna
beat you up, cos you're a loudmouth babe"...Safe in 1976? Safer than the
pistols granted, but still.

> 
> The Pistols lyrics, on the other hand, were full of angst (most noteably "God
> Save the Queen" (No Future), and "Anarchy in the UK" (Destroy). The British
> system promised them nothing so theywrote lyrics about it and damned the
> monarchy. The record companies were making shit music so they ripped them off
> and slammed them in "EMI" among others. They pissed people off BIG TIME. This
> is all cliche now, but not 16 years ago.
> 
agreed

> I've never heard of the Ramones getting any publicity for their violent attacks
> on the US government (circa 1977). Maybe this was because they were just a fun
> band doing covers like "Surfun' Bird".

Its a good point, the Ramones never really got that political, they have always
been closer to the 'true spirit' of rock n roll, honesty etc (insert cliche).
Occasionally they have been a political band though, remember the excellent
"Bonzo goes to Bitburg"? But you're right, a totally different band from the
pistols. Thats probably what they're still around, I mean, could you ever have
seen Johnny and Sid on the road doing stadiums in 92 :^)
-- 
Tom Higham,		        "If ever somethin' don't feel right to you,     
Radiocarbon Dating Lab,	        remember what Pancho said to the Cisco Kid:
University of Waikato,	        'Let's went, before we are dancing at the
Hamilton,		        end of a rope, without music.'"  
NEW ZEALAND.		                   Sailor Ripley, "wild at heart".
Higham@waikato.ac.nz
From: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Dirty!
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:25:12 GMT
Reply-To: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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In a previous article, memaso@uta.fi (Markku Sorto) says:

>Does anybody know how common (/will it be worth anything in future) is
>the SY's Dirty (CD) adult artwork edition? You know, the one with the
>picture of people f*cking bunnies?
>
>Tumpa
>
>


I don
t know, but it seems that that
's the only version they sell in Ann Arbo.
-- 
Eric Rickin (ab870@cleveland.freenet.edu)
University of Michigan Class of 1996
"I would like to thank the vice president, ...the television academy,
and the members of the cultural elite." - Candice Bergen
From: Christopher.Carne@brunel.ac.uk (Christopher J Carne)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Throwing Muses' latest
Date: 3 Sep 92 09:52:45 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK

In article <92242.131159MDJ102@psuvm.psu.edu> MDJ102@psuvm.psu.edu (Michael D. Jung) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.124551.13363@watson.ibm.com>,
>kitchens@morpheus.austin.ibm.com (otto vaughn kitchens) says:
>
>>does anybody have an impression of the Throwing Muses' new album >_Red
>Tornado_?  thanks.
>
>The new Muses album is called "Red Heaven." I have mixed feelings about it.
>Red Heaven is a little more funky than their previous stuff, which is a
>direction I don't know that they want to go in.  The production work is very
>good--the drums sound really exciting in particular on the lead track,
>"Furious." However, songs like the first track seem to dawdle, or maybe I'm
>missing the point.  I've been a Throwing Muses fan for awhile, and I have to
>say that I like this album, too, but I'm not really quite sure.  Get it,
>though, if you liked _The Real Ramona_.  (By the way, Throwing Muses is now
>composed entirely of Kristin Hersh and David Narcizo.  Leslie Langston plays
>bass on some tracks.)
>----------------------------------------------------------------------- 

Yeah, I know how you feel. I really like the sound of this record, but
I find some of the songwriting a bit weak anf the guitar work just a 
bit too, well, rockish. Maybe, Kristen just needs time to come to
grips with the slimmed down band. Or then again maybe Tanya Donelly 
had more of an input than is generally recognised. In any case it
doesn't come anywhere near their best (House Tornado IMHO), but its
still better than most stuff around.

I wonder how people feel about Tanya Donelly's band Belly. I though
that their 'Slow Dust' EP was mostlty pretty goood, if much lighter
and melodic than much of the Muses output. I always really liked
Tanya's songs on the Muses albums, often providing a much needed
contrast, so I geuss its not too surprising I like this. 


CHR$
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: mneugeba@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Mike Neugebauer)
Subject: Lush
Keywords: tapes
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:47:07 GMT

	Hello out there... does anyone listen to Lush?  I only have two of theirtapes.  
Mike.
From: mageej@sage4e.its.rpi.edu (Jeffrey A. Magee ( Sun-King ))
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: L7 at 9: 30 Club
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:20:05 GMT
Reply-To: mageej@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.

Hey, did anyone get them on tape (VHS)?  I missed Letterman last night and was
really hoping to check them out.  Thanks in advance!

-Jeff

-- 
I'm a *Sun-King* baby...  (mageej@rpi.edu)
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From: visnurpk@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Rich Kernin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: RFI: Smiths Information for Discography
Date: 9 Sep 92 05:08:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hello,

  I've been working on quite a few discographies lately, and with the recent
re-releases of Smiths CD singles and a "Best of..." album, I figured I'd
whip up a Smiths Discography.  I've got quite alot of stuff currently, but
want to make this as complete as possible, so if you have *any* Smiths
information please forward it to the address below.  I need cassette
catalog numbers most of all, and any extra tracks that might be available
(don't think there are many, but have one so far).  Plus I need the track
listings/times/catalog numbers from the recent re-released singles
("This Charming Man" 1&2 and "How Soon Is Now?" 1&2) and album.
When I get it pretty well sorted out I'll post to the news groups.  Thanks
for any information, and if you want a copy of what I have currently
just drop me a line.

-Rich

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From: Tim.ONeill@english.utas.edu.au (Tim O'Neill)
Subject: Re: Song in my head 
Organization: University of Tasmania (Australia)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 06:36:53 GMT

In article <2AB13FC7.25148@news.service.uci.edu>, altshule@skid.ps.uci.edu (Eric Altshuler) writes:
> 
> Got this song in my head.  I heard it on KROQ this morning.  The chorus is:
> 
>     Right here, right now,  there is no other place I'd want to be
>     Right here, right now,  watching the world wake up from history
> 
> This could be slightly off but thats about it.  Anybody know who sings it?
> 
>                               -Eric
It's by Jesus Jones. It's fairly old, it came out in mid-1990 I think.
Tim O'Neill
Tasmanian Devil
From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: another useless thread - next "Seattle"?
Keywords: seattle
Date: 9 Sep 92 03:12:00 GMT
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.

In article <1992Sep8.012624.26314@panix.com> jis@panix.com (Jack Szwergold) writes:
>In <1992Sep7.202411.15089@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> wilbanks@spot.Colorado.EDU (The Pickle) writes:
>
>>When Seattle is spent, which city will the media descend upon and
>>blow its music scene out of proportion?



  UPLAND, CALIFORNIA.


  It will all start from a label called Shrimper records.


  Bands like Refrigerator, Nothing Painted Blue, and Massengil will
  become the next Mudhoney, Pearl Jam, and Nirvana respectively.


  Diskothi-Q and the Primordial Undermind will rule the rock world.


  You heard it here first.



                                                             K!z!K
From: Virginia.A.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Virginia A. Reed)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: They Might Be Giants
Date: 5 Sep 92 13:53:33 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Just a piece of info on the band's name's origin; the other day in the
video store, I saw a circa 1920 movie on the shelf called, "They Might
Be Giants"
I don't know what this means, but I just though it was interesting.
From: mnf0642@hertz.njit.edu (mnf)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Barenaked Ladies?
Date: 12 Sep 92 14:32:31 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In a way they reminded me of the Housemartins with a band producer 
behind the knobs. However, the lyrics aren't smart as the Housemartins.

Nuno
From: mnf0642@hertz.njit.edu (mnf)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Smiths covers?
Date: 5 Sep 92 15:00:35 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

Sandie Shaw did "Hand In Glove".

Nuno
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: kang@stolaf.edu (Joseph S Kang)
Subject: Re: Swervedriver info.
Organization: St. Olaf College, Northfield, MN
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:39:55 GMT

Are you talking about the 3 eps that were released prior to raise?  If you are, then they
are for the songs: "Son of Mustang Ford", "Rave Down", and "Sandblasted".  They are really 
good eps and they have some really cool songs on them.  Hope that this helps.

-- 
Joseph Kang      |  Disclaimer:  Whether you believe it or not, the views
kang@stolaf.edu  |               expressed in the above article are all mine.
                 |  		 Unless I've been brain-washed and don't know
St. Olaf College |    		 it or don't notice the difference. :-)
From: altshule@skid.ps.uci.edu (Eric Altshuler)
Subject: Re: Dirty 
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:47:18 GMT

>Does anybody know how common (/will it be worth anything in future) is
>the SY's Dirty (CD) adult artwork edition? You know, the one with the
>picture of people f*cking bunnies?

The guy with the bunnies is a friend of mine.  The brown stuff all over
him is chocolate pudding.  The picture of him and his girfriend and was
taken by an SF photographer for an art exhibit, and I guess Sonic Youth
liked it.  Until some moral majority raises a fuss, I think this is the 
only way the disc is going to be released.  I might see him this week,
and I'll ask him.  I got mine signed, so that's always worth a little
more.  Isn't it great to make money off your friends?
                      -Eric
From: mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Ramones, punk rock, XRaySpex, others (lots)
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:04:16 GMT
Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK

In article <Bu815t.CLH@cs.dal.ca> graham@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael Graham) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.150154.28981@gdr.bath.ac.uk> mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf) writes:
>>
>>Perhaps, but do you know what they sounded like?  They could 
>>have just been a glitter rock band or something.  Those three had
>>little to do with the "punk" side of the Pistols'.  It was all
>>Rotten and Viscious that were the punk element.  Cook and
>>Jones were just backup musicians-- note what they've done
>>since.
>
>Yeah - and look at what Lydon has been doing for the past 8-9 yrs!
>Boring generic rock. (He still does great interviews - especially on tv).
>

He still does Sex Pistols covers, and he sticks to his uncommercial
singing style.

>
>>I'd agree that the pistols had some really good lyrics, but 
>>I think they were too much of a media product produced
>>by and for Malcom McLaurin.  
>
>Sure he was a great manipulator, but he didn't write any of the lyrics. He just
>knew what would happen when these four guys who had nothing going for them and
>were not exactly model citizens were put in the public eye.

Did he?  How do you know what he was up to?  I'd heard stories that
Adam Ant paid him big bucks to create an image for him.  I doubt if
Adam Ant would have paid McLaren dosh if he hadn't been responsible
for the Sex Pistols image (meaning attitude, style, and influence on sound
and lyrical content).  The same was done for Bow wow wow.


>
>The Pistols lyrics, on the other hand, were full of angst (most noteably "God
>Save the Queen" (No Future), and "Anarchy in the UK" (Destroy). The British
>system promised them nothing so theywrote lyrics about it and damned the
>monarchy. The record companies were making shit music so they ripped them off
>and slammed them in "EMI" among others. They pissed people off BIG TIME. This
>is all cliche now, but not 16 years ago.
>

Did they?  I assert that North Americans have a warped idea about how
pissed off people in Britian were about the Sex Pistols.  British society has
a way of accepting rebels and making them part of the establishment.

>I've never heard of the Ramones getting any publicity for their violent attacks
>on the US government (circa 1977). Maybe this was because they were just a fun
>band doing covers like "Surfun' Bird".
>

The Ramones didn't get publicity, because they weren't media hyped like the
Pistols were.  If you listen to the Ramones lyrics, you will find a lot of
songs with subtle sarcastic attacks on the establishment.  They aren't as
gutteral as the Pistols, but I think they have more to say.
From: Mark.Cornick@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Mark Cornick)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Sonic Youth any good?
Keywords: asldfjklsdjflkj. ha.
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:50:08 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1935t9INNba9@sal-sun5.usc.edu> aumentad@sal-sun5.usc.edu (Jesus Hates You) writes:
>
>anyone got info on the sonic death fanclub?  from what I hear you get a fanzine written by the band plus a live cd from '86(!!)

S'right. When you shell out about $18 to join Sonic Death, you get a CD of
the Youth performing at the Continental Club, Austin TX on April 12, 1986.
"The first live show of the songs from EVOL" according to Lee Ranaldo's
liner notes. Not a bad show. Also the first issue of the Sonic Death
fanzine, and a button. I joined by purchasing a membership kit at my local
record shop. If your fave store doesn't have the kits, I think the address
is listed somewhere on the _Dirty_ sleeve.

mark cornick                       stu_m1cornic@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
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From: houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joshua Houk)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Sonic Youth on Late Night 9/4/92
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:33:09 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <7274@charon.cwi.nl> waal@cwi.nl (Peter de Waal) writes:
>
>Pardon my ignorance, but what is/are "Royal Trux"?
>
>--- Peter de Waal, CWI. Amsterdam --- 

Royal Trux are the stuff that dreams are made of. Royal Trux are the
squirrels that run about outside and chase each other. Royal Trux are
*the* band of the 90's - Jennifer Herrema and Neil Haggerty. Imagine
hearing your favorite minimalist pop band on a cheap portable radio, and
then submerging your radio in your bathtub. That's Royal Trux. Yeah.

Oh yeah - they're on Drag City Records. A few 7"s, a double-lp, an
upcoming lp (next month, folks), and a video...

PS : Someone posted something earlier (*way* earlier) about a 'Drag City
Night' being recorded at some radio station in Boston, with Royal Trux,
Smog, etc., earlier this year. Does anyone have a tape of this? If so,
is there any way I can get a copy? Wouldn't have much to trade (unless
ya' liked the Jesus Lizard, Mercyland, or the Woggles), but me and
a hardcore group of Truxters would love you for it....

-- 
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"It's not what you are, it's what you got"
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From: cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman)
Subject: Porno for Pyros
Organization: Priests of the Temples of Syrinx
Date: 11 Sep 92 05:07:43 GMT

I read a while back in SPIN that P4P was going to work on an album this summer an 
and release an album this fall/winter.  I just wanted to know if anyone knows what what's up and if anyone has any demos or stuff like that. I've got several Jan Jane's bootlegs (audio and video) to trade if so.

(excuse the typing errors...my terminal emulator doesn't have a delete key!)

--
cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu

"One likes to believe in the freedom of baseball" - Geddy Lee
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: williams@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Kent Williams)
Subject: Re: Swervedriver info.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:40:54 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

From article <1992Sep5.173041.11907@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, by emj5e@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Eric Marshall Jones):
> 	Does anyone have any information on Swervedriver's discography? In
> particular some information on a 7" released with the album "Raise". Also 
> anyone really into Slumberland bands who would be interested in the buy/sell
> /trade thang or just correspondance should .....um....correspond. Thanks.

What, pray tell, are Slumberland bands?

I don't know what went onto the 7", since I don't buy vinyl anymore.

There were three EP's before the LP.  I assume they're titled by the first
cut.

CRESCD079 - Son Of Mustang Ford
            Volcano Trash
            Kill the Superheroes
            Juggernaut Rides
CRESCD088 - Rave Down
            She's Beside Herself
            AfterGlow
            Zedhead
CRESCD102 - Sandblasted
            Flawed
            Out
            Laze it Up

The LP 'Raise' took one cut from each EP, and the songs NOT on 'Raise' are
just as good as the ones that made it onto 'Raise,' so don't feel bad
about shelling out for the EP's.

In the US A&M has released an EP since 'Raise'

A&M 75021 2402 2 - Sandblasted
				   Scrawl & Scream
                   Hands
                   Jesus (A Velvet Underground cover)

And Creation UK has released

CRESCD120 - Never Lose That Feeling/Never Learn
            Scrawl & Scream
            Hands
            Never Lose that Feeling

The 4th track is (I believe) simply an abridgement for radio of the first
track.

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From:  (J Klein)
Subject: Re: Lush
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Organization: Public Macs, Academic Computing, Yale University
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:08:30 GMT

> They're great, aren't they? :)  I wish they'd go on tour in the south.  I
> would've loved to see them when they were touring with Ride...
> 
> Robey (no sig yet)

I saw Lush when they were touring alone earlier (before Spooky).  They were
pretty cool, real laid back and talking with the audience.  They put the
volume up higher than any band I have ever heard; I was in a whitewash of
feedback for about a week after the concert.
From: dudley@treefort.Corp.Sun.COM (Dudley Gaman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: SONG TITLE/GROUP: "Read My lips" - bush samples!
Date: 15 Sep 1992 14:48:49 GMT
Organization: Invictus
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: treefort.corp.sun.com

In article <Sep.14.09.41.10.1992.18409@pilot.njin.net> gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky) writes:
>
>i heard a song on the radio last week, iut's got a dance beat,
> and has samples and soundbites of george bush speeches? or
> interviews, or something.  anyhow, the recurring "refrain" is "read
> mylips".
>
>is this the title of the song?   who does this?  where can i get a
> copy?

The song is "Read My Lips" by 1000 Points of Light which is really Don Was.
I believe it should be in record stores.

If you like that one, give a listen to "Bush Wacked" by Tone Deaf.  It was
just released within the last day or two.

Dudley
.
From: raunn@cs.tamu.edu (Raun D Nohavitza)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Temple of the Dog
Date: 13 Sep 92 16:50:28 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University

In article <schuck.716366774@sfu.ca> Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca writes:
>I bought "Temple of the Dog" last week and thought it was
>a very good album.
>
>Since it was recorded as a tribute album by members of
>Pearl Jam and Soundgarden, does anybody know if there are
>any plans for a follow up?

I believe "Temple of the Dog" was a band that included
members of Pearl Jam and SG before those two bands ever
existed.  They recorded the album you bought and released
it in about '90, and it has currently been re-released
because of all the "Seattle band" hype. Thus, I don't think
you can expect a follow up, although the music is good.

-Raun
 raunn@neuron.tamu.edu
From: gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Smiths covers?
Date: 5 Sep 92 13:08:15 GMT
Organization: Somewhere in Hoboken

ok.  here's what i know.

carter the unstoppable sex machine covered panic on the back side
 of their "only living boy in new cross" single.
 
 chrissie hynde is voering, on her next pretenders album, "everyday
 is like sunday".
 
 kirsty maccoll has done "you just haven't earned it yet baby"

and i'm sure there are others. - bob gaj
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