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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:48:00 GMT
From:         MFCRANE@CS.TCD.IE
Subject:      Re: VI: VN-CAMBODIA

Mr. Chan,

I think you're right in quoting the U.S. Task Forces on the 'Vietnamisation'
of Cambodia - I mean, the U.S. of all people should be experts on illegal
incursions into this country.

Seriously though, I don't believe a word of it, I have been reading reports
from many NG Organisations (from many nations) and have not read one
substantiating these allegations.

There seems to be an unholy alliance on this subject comprising the U.S. and
the Khmer Rouge, does this not seem like bad company for the U.S. to be
keeping.

Martin Crane
Dept Of Comp. Sci.
Trinity College,
Dublin, Ireland
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 09:53:32 -0500
From:         Nhan Tran <tran@PEORA.SDC.CCUR.COM>
Subject:      NEWS/VN: VN Airlines plane crashes in typhoon

11/15

Vietnam Airlines plane crashes in typhoon

    HANOI, Nov 16, Reuter - A Vietnam Airlines airliner with 30 people aboard,
including nine foreigners, crashed in a typhoon on Saturday after taking off
from Ho Chi Minh City, the airline said on Monday.
    Search teams were still trying to find the crash site on Monday, and there
was no news of any survivors, a spokesman said.
    Nguyen Ngoc Quang, director of international relations for Vietnam
Airlines, said flight control authorities lost contact with the crew of flight
VN474 some 50 minutes after the Yak-40 aircraft left Ho Chi Minh City on
Saturday morning.
    The Soviet-made plane, which was heading for the southern resort town of
Nha Trang, was carrying 15 Vietnamese passengers and nine foreigners as well
as the six crew.
    The nationality of the foreigners was not immediately available.
    Quang said search teams spent all Sunday looking for the aircraft and were
expected to reach the crash site on Monday morning.
    He told Reuters the plane had been flying low when it hit a typhoon
buffeting the southern Vietnamese coast. He said it might have been able to
make a crash landing, but had no further details.
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 10:24:49 -0500
From:         Nhan Tran <tran@PEORA.SDC.CCUR.COM>
Subject:      NEWS/VN: Anti-Hanoi guerrilla force to depart for US

11/17

ANTI-HANOI GUERRILLA FORCE TO DEPART FOR U.S

    PHNOM PENH, Nov 17, Reuter - Members of an anti-Hanoi guerrilla army,
recently found in the remote Cambodian jungle years after being abandoned by
the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, will be resettled in the United States,
a U.N.  spokesman said on Tuesday.
    The 407-strong group of Vietnamese mountain tribesmen, or Montagnards, and
their families will begin leaving a transit camp in Phnom Penh on Wednesday for
the United States, the spokesman said.
    Their army, the United Front for the Struggle of Oppressed Races (FULRO),
gained prominence during the Vietnam War when both the CIA and Hanoi courted
the Montagnards' loyalty.
    They later based themselves in Cambodia but in recent years rarely troubled
the Hanoi government while their conditions became increasingly desperate.
    The group made contact earlier this year with peacekeepers of the United
Nations Transitional Authority in Cambodia and requested refugee status.
    Last month the entire community was airlifted by helicopter from a village
base and brought to Phnom Penh where they were placed under the U.N.'s care.
    Almost the entire group indicated they wanted to resettle in the United
States. The operation, due to be completed on December 3, is being supervised
by the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees.
    U.N. sources told Reuters that the group would most probably be resettled
in North Carolina.
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:39:00 EST
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Subject:      test

This is a test to see if mail can be sent.
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:59:41 -0500
From:         Joyce Brabner <ah881@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TH: Email addresses (2 fwd. msgs)

Anything in Cambodia yet?

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 09:55:42 -0500
From:         Nhan Tran <tran@PEORA.SDC.CCUR.COM>
Subject:      NEWS/VN: Cambodian refugees to return from VN

11/15

CAMBODIAN REFUGEES TO RETURN FROM VIETNAM

    PHNOM PENH, Nov 15, Reuter - A hundred Cambodian refugees, out of tens of
thousands who fled to Vietnam to avoid persecution in the 1970s and were then
largely forgotten by the world, will be repatriated on Monday, a U.N. official
says.
    Sergio de Mello, chief of Cambodian operations for the U.N. High
Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), said Monday's returnees would be the first
of 850, most of them ethnic Chinese, who had chosen to go back to Cambodia.
    He said they would be taken to Phnom Penh by road. Most of the 20,000 who
fled into Vietnam during the bloodthirsty rule of the Khmer Rouge in the 1970s
were city-dwellers.
    De Mello told Reuters this first step was important as the reactions of the
100 after arrival could prompt others to follow.
    UNHCR officials had earlier said that most of the 11,000 Cambodians still
living in relative freedom in four open camps would likely opt to remain in
Vietnam if their dreams of resettlement in the West were dashed.
    The 350,000 Cambodian refugees who lived in camps on the Thai border were
the focus of international aid efforts over the years, with scant attention
paid to their counterparts in diplomatically isolated Vietnam, U.N. officials
said.
    They added, however, that international resettlement efforts had brought
down the number of Cambodian exiles in Vietnam from 20,000 to 11,000.
    The UNHCR has been trying to handle the repatriation from Vietnam with
special delicacy.
    Refugee officials said they feared fiercely nationalistic opposition
factions, including the Khmer Rouge, would broadcast the move as part of the
alleged Vietnamese plot to colonise Cambodia.
    The returnees should find themselves at home in Phnom Penh, they said,
where there is a thriving Chinese community, which holds economic clout.
    Life in Vietnam has been fairly easy for the refugees, officials said, with
many holding passes to work outside the camps. Some have set up their own
businesses.
    A UNHCR official said earlier this year that the refugee body would try to
arrange "some kind of local settlement... (with) income generation to get them
some level of self-sufficiency."
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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:33:00 GMT
From:         "Vietnam Publications" <0004741206@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      VN Price Weekly No. 29 (1992)

VN Price Weekly, No. 29 (1992)
Copyright (c) 1992 by Vietnam Publications (email: vinexco@mcimail.com)

Prices in Ho Chi Minh City, Hanoi, Da Nang, Can Tho as of November 21, 1992:


         Notes: "0", "+", "-", "unchanged", difference since
                previous VN Price Weekly report, in parentheses.
         All suggestions for improvement are welcome.

1. US Dollar:
   ForEx HCM: buy 10,865 dong/US  since 11/11/92.

   Vietcombank (buy/sell):
           HCM         HANOI        DANANG       CANTHO
   ----------------------------------------------------------
   11/21 10730/10830  10720/10830  10730/10840  10730/10850
          (-40/-30)    (-10/-30)    (+15/-20)      (0/-10)

   Market (buy/sell):
           HCM         HANOI        DANANG       CANTHO
   ----------------------------------------------------------
   11/21 10780/10800  10830/10850  10740/10760  10760/10780
          (+10/+10)    (+35/+35)    (-20/-20)      (0/0)

   Vinexco NY exchange rate (dong/US dollar):
           HCM     HANOI   DANANG   NHATRANG   CANTHO
   ----------------------------------------------------
    11 /21  10780   10680   10700    10700      10750
            (-40)   (-20)   (-50)    (-50)      (-50)

2. Other currencies at Vietcombank (buy/sell):

          Swiss Franc   French Franc   Deutsch Mark
   --------------------------------------------------
    11/21  7357/7657     1967/2048      6665/6937
            (-2/-9)       (-6/-7)         (0/-6)

3. Gold:
   State (Gold 99% Au, retailed buy/sell in thousand dongs per 1/10th tael):
           HCM       HANOI     DANANG    CANTHO
   -----------------------------------------------
    11/21  440/450   447/461   449/457   438/445
           (+2/+2)   (+1/-1)    (0/-1)   (+3/+4)

   Market (Gold 99% Au, buy/sell in thousand dongs per 1/10th tael):
           HCM       HANOI     DANANG    CANTHO
   -----------------------------------------------
    11/21  445/450   448/454   439/447   437/445
           (+3/+3)   (+3/+4)    (0/0)    (+4/+4)

4. Other  prices in HCM City (unchanged except fertilizer)

   Average rice            d 2,100 / kg [ga.o te? thu*o*!ng]
   Pork [ham]              d20,500 / kg (-500) thi.t lo*.n mo>ng sa>'n]
   Sugar [Grade 1 white]   d 3,900 / kg [crystalized, produced locally]
   Fish sauce (15%)        d 2,000 / liter
   Gas [A72-A76]           d 2,300 / liter
   Fertilizer [urea-type]  d 2,200 / kg (+200)
   Cement                  d41,500 / 50 kg bag.

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fa't ha!nh 15Nov92 ha!ng tha'ng ta.i TP-HCM Vietnam. A>'n pha>?m se~ chuye>?n
ta?i tho>ng tin quo>'c te>' ve>! su*. fa't trie>?n tin hoc. Vietnam to*'i ca'c
ban.
Chi tie>'t xin lie>n he>.: Vietnam Publications & Trung ta>m Tho>ng Tin khoa
hoc. & Co>ng Nghe>., 79 Tru*o*ng Dinh., Q.1, TP-HCM. Fax 84.8.291957 "
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:45:52 -0500
From:         Nhan Tran <tran@PEORA.SDC.CCUR.COM>
Subject:      NEWS/VN: direct phone link to Germany

11/18

VIETNAM TO ESTABLISH DIRECT PHONE LINKS WITH GERMANY

HANOI (NOV. 18) DPA - Vietnam will establish a direct telecommunications link
with Germany on January 1 next year, a Vietnamese official said Wednesday.

''Mail, express mail as well as money remittance services aiming to serve over
30,000 Vietnamese residents in Germany will also be available thanks to this
link,'' said Dang Van Than, head of the Directorate General for Post and
Telecommunications.

Currently more than 30,000 Vietnamese live in Germany under work contracts that
were signed with the former East German government.

Than revealed the link after a meetig with German Minister for Post and
Telecommunications Christian Schwarz-Schilling. Schilling, the first German
minister to visit Vietnam, is leading a delegation of 25, including 10
businessmen representing Germany's telecommunications sector.

While in Hanoi, Schwarz-Schilling inaugurated a microwave link between Hanoi
and Vinh, 300 kilometres south of the capital, which was built by the German
firm Siemens as part of a backbone wideband digital microwave system which will
eventually link North and South Vietnam.

The German delegation travelled on to Ho Chi Minh City, South Vietnam,
Wednesday.

In April, 1992, Vietnam and Germany signed an agreement to cooperate on the
expansion of Vietnam's telecommunications network. The two countries also
expect to sign an investment guarantee pact early next year.
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 11:59:24 -0700
From:         MaZri BiN MaiSeh <mmaiseh@CS.ARIZONA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: your mail
              Nov 18, 92 05:01:49 pm

+
+dear netter,
+
+i got the following list of addresses for institutions in malaysia
+but i none of them is known host.  that is, every time i try fingering
+the address, i will get an error message.  the following is an example:
+
+% finger @umvax.um.my
+unknown host: umvax.um.my
+
+can anyone tell me why?
+
+thanx a lot...
+

this's because. .. you're using internet..!

-MaZri
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 07:50:33 EST
From:         Elliott Parker <3ZLUFUR@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Subject:      TH: Doctors leave govt service in droves

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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 20:25:50+0700
From: Kamol Hengkietisak <kamol@ipied.tu.ac.th>
Subject: Bangkok Post Nov 23: Doctors leaving govt services in drove

Khon Kaen -- Brain drain in the public health sector has reached a
critical level with only one doctor per 6,000 people, Public
Health Minister Boonphan Kaewattana said yesterday.

Speaking after inspecting the Srinakarin and Central hospitals in
this northeastern province, Minister Boonphan said that there were
now only 5,600 doctors working in state hospitals and health care
insitutions throughout the country.

Most doctors are leaving the state sector to work in private
hospitals where the pay is four to five times higher. The problem
is particularly acute in the provinces, Mr Boonphan said.

To cope with the exodus of state doctors to private hospitals the
Public Health Ministry is working with the University Affairs
Bureau to increase the number of doctors graduateing each year to
1,500.

The minister admitted the plan had its limitations because it took
six years to train a doctor.

In the Northeast there are currently two hospitals -- Khon Kaen
Central and Ubon Ratchathani's Sappasitprasong Hospital -- which
train fourth, fifth and sixth year medical students.

To increase the number of graduates such training places will have
to be increased. Two hospitals which have high capability and
could serve as training gounds are Surin and Udon Thani provincial
hospitals.

Retired practitioners in various fields will be recruited to train
medical students and the ministry will arrange a budget for the
scheme, Mr Boonphan said.
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:06:58 EST
From:         Elliott Parker <3ZLUFUR@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Subject:      TH: Court rejects Tribunal claim

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 23:15:56+0700
From: Kamol Hengkietisak <kamol@ipied.tu.ac.th>


THE Civil Court yesterday rejected a complaint from two activists
contesting the validity of the Constitution Tribunal ruling on the
Parliament's rejecion of the Amnesty Decree.

  The complaint was lodged by two lawyers, Varunchai Chokechana
and Boonrith Ketsamai.

They asked the court to declare the tribunal ruling invalid,
claming the tribunal had no power to rule on the decree because it
no longer existed after its earlier rejection by the Parliament.

Civil Court deputy chief justice Suwan Trakarnpan and chief judge
Vibul Nonthachuti decided the lawyers lacked the legal grounds to
fight the case in court and rejected the complaint.

Democrat MP Mr Preecha Suwannatat said United States-based
relatives of people killed in the May crackdown could take legal
action against military commanders of the operation but it was up
to the courts to decide whether they would hear the case.

He said the Executive Decree had been wrongly issued from the
start as governments were not authorised to issue laws which
withhold criminal prosecution, but the Constitution Tribunal
ruling meant the amnesty was now effective and must be accepted.

Mr Preecha also said verdicts reached in cases in the United
States could not be enforced in Thailand.
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Subject:      remove my name

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 10:50:59 EST
From:         Elliott Parker <3ZLUFUR@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Subject:      TH: Govt props up market

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 00:37:19+0700
From: Kamol Hengkietisak <kamol@ipied.tu.ac.th>
Subject: Bangkok Post Nov 19: Govt to prop up stock market

FINANCE Minister Tarrin Nimmanhaeminda yesterday announced the
setting up of funds totalling 15,000 million baht to shore up
stock prices and assure stock investors the market will be stable.

His action followed a release yesterday morning by the Securities
Exchange Commission stating it had asked the police to take legal
action against Song Watcharasriroj and 10 associates for allegedly
violating the Securities and Stock Exchange Act and the Criminal
Code.

He said that to help prevent any adverse impact on trading on the
Stock Exchange of Thailand (SET) and to give investors confidence,
the Finance Ministry and agencies concerned, private and public,
will set up funds of 15,000 million baht to prop up the market.

Mr Tarrin, who announced the measure at a press conference and
left immediately without answering questions, said the state-owned
Krung Thai Bank will set up 5,000 million baht fund to buy and
sell stocks with good fundamentals from today. The Bank of
Thailand will give Krung Thai Bank financial support.

The Bank of Thailand governor later said the fund is necessary
because stock prices have dropped beyond a realistic level. Krung
Thai Bank will have no problem setting up the fund as it has
excess liquidity.

Mr Tarrin said the remaining 10,000-million-baht fund will be set
up by member brokers at the earliest opportunity.

The president of the Association of Members of the Stock Exchange
of Thailand (AMSET), Viroj Nualkhair, said the funds are expected
to be set up on Monday with each member company contributing 200
million baht.

"There will be around three to four funds set up and probably
managed by mutual fund management companies," he said. Each
company can manage one fund.

He said 90% of member companies (brokers) believe the funds will
benefit the stock market as a whole.

Mr Viroj said the association has been very strict on the
etiquette of member companies.

He said the action taken by the SEC is considered timely following
legal action against Chao Thai Securities Co early last year.

"If the action was delayed a few more months, the funds of 15,000
million baht would not be enough."

He believes foreign investors understand the situation and will
not panic. Stock Exchange of Thailand president Seri Chintanaseri
said the exchange has done everything necessary to care for the
market.

Turning to investors' demands that he resign for "failing" to look
after the market, he said anyone can say this but he believes he
has done his duty sufficiently.

"I will continue to try to do my best."

He said the SET has been cooperating with the Finance Ministry,
the SEC and the Bank of Thailand in taking care of the market.
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 07:51:52 EST
From:         Elliott Parker <3ZLUFUR@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Subject:      TH: Police plan stock case strategy

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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 20:24:43+0700
From: Kamol Hengkietisak <kamol@ipied.tu.ac.th>
Subject: Bangkok Post Nov 23: Police to work out strategies on stock case

CENTRAL Investigation Bureau Commissioner Pol Lt-Gen Thanu Homhual
will today hold a meeting with the police team assigned to
investigate alleged share price manipulation by Song
Watcharasriroj and his 11 associates.

Economic crime police and officials from the Securities and
Exchange Commission (SEC) yesterday continued their searches of
the houses and offices of some of the suspects to look for
evidence to substantiate their case against the alleged stock
manipulators.

Altogether 11 people, including Sia Song, have voluntarily
reported themselves to the police to hear the charges which were
brought against them by the SEC.  All except Sia Song were
released on a two-million baht bail each.  Sia Song himself put up
10 million baht in cash as bail.

Pol Col Piraphan Premputi, superintendent of the Second
Sub-division of the Economic Crime Division, said yesterday that
the evidence produced by SEC were sufficient to pursue the case in
the court against those charged by SEC. He added police had, so
far, interrogated about 20 people.

The 12th person charged by the SEC, Ms Thanasnan Sukhumpanich, has
yet to surrender to police.

Pol Col Piraphan said it would depend on Ms Thanasnan when she
wanted to give herself up. But he warned that a warrant for her
arrest would be issued when police had all the evidence they
wanted.

The police superintendent went on to say that SEC had the power to
freeze the assets of Sia Song if it had the evidence and, in such
a case, police would be ready to follow the SEC's order.

Police found several bank account books, documents and floppy
discs when they conducted searches on Saturday night of the
offices and houses of Sia Song's associates.

Each of the account books shows daily deposits and withdrawals
amounting to about 100 million baht, according to a police source.
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From:         Elliott Parker <3ZLUFUR@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Subject:      TH: ASEAN trade pact legal?

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 23:02:05+0700
From: Kamol Hengkietisak <kamol@ipied.tu.ac.th>
Subject: Bangkok Post Nov 20: Revenge hatched


THE House Industry Committee yesterday announced that it would
summon former prime minister Anand Panyarachun to testify over the
legality of the ASEAN Free Trade Area (AFTA) treaty since it has
not yet been ratified by Parliament.

Committee spokesman Veerakorn Kamprakorb (Chart Thai, Nakhon
Sawan) said that Mr Anand will have to testify to the panel on
whether his action is constitutional since Article 178 of the
charter specified that all international treaties will have to be
ratified by Parliament first before it can be considered
effective.

"When Mr Anand signed AFTA (ASEAN Free Trade Area) there were no
Parliaments in existence," Mr Veerakorn said.

He said that the committee, chaired by Chart Pattana MP for Nakhon
Ratchasima, Korn Dabbaransi, has written to the Commerce Ministry
enquiring if the agreement can be effective without the
ratification by Parliament.

He charged that Mr Anand signed the agreement unilaterally without
consultations with the business sector or considering it in
Parliament.

Former premier Anand has been a target of what observers see as an
attempt to extract political revenge by many of the opposition
parties -- particularly those whose leaders have been charged with
being unusually rich.

AFTA is to be effective in January next year for 15 types of
goods. Mr Veerakorn claimed that Thai goods which will be
adversely affected by the agreement will include vegetable oil,
plastic pellet, glass and mirror products, electrical goods,
rubber products and leather goods.

He identified the Thai products that will enjoy an advantage as a
result of AFTA as textile, garment, manufactured plastic, gems,
ceramic, cement and chemical products.

Goods that will not be affected by AFTA will include fertiliser,
pulp, electronic products, rattan goods and bronze.

Mr Veerakorn said that the committee will invite various trade
associations to testify on the effect of AFTA on their products.
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