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From: 34AEJ7D%CMUVM.BITNET@VM1.nodak.edu (Bill Gorman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Companion Dogs
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:41:20 GMT
Reply-To: 34AEJ7D%CMUVM.BITNET@VM1.nodak.edu (Bill Gorman)

Index Number: 23224

Here's a piece about companion dogs from my CANINE-L Discussion List.
I thought some of those on this echo might find it interesting.

Sez me,

W. K. (Bill) Gorman  <34AEJ7D@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
|Bill,
|There was an article about companion dogs in one of the recent issues of
|Dogfancy and Science Diet gave away free calenders last year featuring
|companion dogs with lots of info about the program. The most commonly
|used breeds are Labradors and Golden Retrievers. People volunteer
|to raise puppies for one year to a year and half- training them in good
|behavior. House breaking and basic obedience commands and socializing
|them to different kinds of people and different types of situation. Then
|the dogs are trained for another year and learn over 100 commands. Then
|the dogs are matched with a disabled person who has had to go through a
|rigorius selection process to make sure they are a suitable candidate.
|The dogs and their companions then go to camp for six weeks to learn the
|commands together. Its a great program. We have a student at our College
|who has a companion dog, Golden Retriever named Teddy. Teddy's a love.
|He lays quietly under the student's desk when not needed, and carries
|the students books etc, in packs. Disabled people who have companion dogs
|say that they are real ice breakers. People stop to talk about the dog-
|and go on talking when before they might have ignored the disabled person.
From: Betsy.Fenti@f650.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Betsy Fenti)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: re: Using a computer without much muscle control
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:15:36 GMT
Reply-To: Betsy.Fenti@f650.n260.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/650 - School Board, Hornell NY

Index Number: 23261

What kind of computer is he using?  I tried the Voice Navigator for
the Mac and it worked great.  I have used the Introvoice for Apple II
for the last 8 years but that takes a lot of control.  I have no
muscle control and mainly use a mouthstick to type.  I recently bought
a Magic Wand keyboard which requires no pressure and very little range
of motion.  It has increased the speed of my typing by at least 25
times.

I have been reading this echo for about two months now and been afraid
to respond.  I want to get to know some other people here.

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From: Tandy.Way@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org (Tandy Way)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: flipper moves ahead o
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:46:23 GMT
Reply-To: Tandy.Way@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:377/6 - T.A.B.B., Tampa Fl
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23304

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

I was glad to read your message about flipper as you know I was a
devout user and still use version 306 which was a far cry from 2.74
the problem  with your message is we have heard these rummors of a
new revamped flipper for about a year and a half. until it hits the
streets as far as I am concerned it is nothing more than vapor ware
even if it washes the dishes and makes the coffee.  the smith crowd
have a bad habbit of promising the moon but delivering little.
like you I could become excited about the aledged new features but
some of us can only wait so long then our projects require we go on
to something that is here now. tandy

ICE CUBES ARE A HOT ITEM IN HELL.
=== Via Silver Xpress V3.00B09

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From: Bob.Dunlap@f360.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Dunlap)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: WHEN PLACARDS TRAVEL
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:19:25 GMT
Reply-To: Bob.Dunlap@f360.n226.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/360 - Hangar 18, Columbus OH

Index Number: 23277

V >Actually, in my case, my placard will not match the state
V >plates of the vehicle we will be riding in back east. This,
V >because we will be flying back east and will be renting a
V >vehicle back there.
V >
V >I don't know if this complicates matters of not, now.

When in doubt, you could always give the dmv in whatever state you
are going to a ring. they should be able to set you straight, though
they might keep you on the phone for several hours since they cannot
find the right department. :)

bob

___
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 * Damnit man, they're aren't soaps, they're day time DRAMA's!!

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From: Joan.Wolschleger@f3.n157.z1.fidonet.org (Joan Wolschleger)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Cancer sufferer in <cont>
Date: 31 Jul 92 04:32:20 GMT
Reply-To: Joan.Wolschleger@f3.n157.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:157/3 - Nerd's Nook, Rocky River OH

Index Number: 23449

PK>I've been saying for a long while that this country is often
PK>utterly lacking in compassion nowadays when it comes to medical
PK>care - but this borders on genocide.  Mariane has been unbelievably
PK>strong and resourceful during this whole mess, but things are
PK>piling up really fast now.  Any suggestions would be greatly
PK>appreciated.

There has developed an anti poor attitude which has replaced the
antipoverty attitude of the 60's.  There have been food stamp
scams, Medicaid fraud, and Welfare queens, but folks have a
tendency to generalize about these things thinking the poor
themselves are responsible and nobody likes to be cheated.
Unfortunately, there is also a perception that the poor do not
vote.  I believe this to be inaccurate as the vast majority of poor
folks that I know do indeed vote (something that is free), but
can't always afford the paper, envelope and postage to write the
politicians letters of complaint. When they do write, I would
imagine that they don't mention being poor as they feel ashamed of
their plight.  She might think about writing her local elected
officials about her situation.  There are many good elected
officials who might act on her behalf.

 * OLX 2.2 * Poor people are just as good as rich people.

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From: Drew.Dunn@f337.n202.z1.fidonet.org (Drew Dunn)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Indolight(sp)
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:41:03 GMT
Reply-To: Drew.Dunn@f337.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:202/337 - Yak Attack BBS, La Mesa CA
X-Fidonet: Amputee Conference

Index Number: 23286

[This is from the Amputee Conference]

-> say it is the closes thing to a real leg that there is.  I feel in lo
-> it when it gave me the flex in the ankle.  I never thought I would be
-> to climb hills again.  With the old legs I had it was an effort but n
-> is very much less of an effort and I seem to glide up the suckers.  F
-> money it cost I would of spent 3 times as much to have the leg 3 year

Val says the very same thing.  The real pain in the butt over the whole
thing, though, is that over the past 6 years since she lost the leg, we
have had 5 prosthetists that have all said that the last leg was a piece
of junk, but they had the "perfect" leg for her.  And after talking to
her new prosthetist, we found out that each of them had made a leg that
was suited for a BK with limited knee flex.  EVERY ONE OF THEM!  They
had cast buckets that had her knee flexed about 5-15 degrees, causing
the tibia (I think...the big bone in front) to press against the front
of the leg.  Definite pain.  They also used some completely improper
styles of buckets (the ones that come up way high....she didn't need
that kind of support).  Anyway, this leg doesn' cover her kneecap like
the old ones did and when she straightens her leg....well, by gosh, it's
straight!

One more thing.  Her prosthetist LISTENS.  He tries to let her find the
solutions to the problem.  Something like this:

Val:  My knee hurts
Pros: What do you think is causing that?

That is such a simple thing to ask, but isn't is much more satisfying to
have someone ask you what you feel the problem is, rather than telling
you what it is?

Anyway, the prosthetist's name is Eddie Goshawk at Southern California
Orthotics and Prosthetics (can I say that on TV? <g>) just in case
anybody is in the San Diego area and needs some help.  Val says that he
is the best "leg mechanic" that she has EVER seen.

dd

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From: rbarth%ka3ovk.uucp@uunet.uu.net (Dick Barth)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: RE: TDD RELAY SERVICE: ETTIQUITTE
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:30:47 GMT
Reply-To: rbarth%ka3ovk.uucp@uunet.uu.net (Dick Barth)
Organization: ARS W3HWN
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 23367

> From: Leti.Labell@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Leti Labell)
>
> I don't know how it's done, but there is a bbs in the DC area that
> people can call with a TDD.  The name of the board is TEDI-Net, and
> the number is 703-242-8117.  I suspect that they have a modem that
> will convert between Baudot and ASCII, but I don't know for sure.
> You could call the board (actually it's located in Virginia, not
> DC) and ask them how they do it.
>

The TEDI-NET BBS doesn't accept TDD calls, but mine does.  The Handicapped
Educational Exchange (HEX) BBS is in Silver Spring MD, a suburb of
Washington DC, and can be called through the DC port of PC Pursuit.

Phones:   301-593-7033 (TDD or 300 baud ASCII)
          301-593-7357 (ASCII only, 300-2400 baud MNP5)

If anybody is interested in how it's done, I'll be happy to go into
details.  I'm not sure, though, whether this whole group is interested
in a lot of technical detail.  Perhaps email is best.

        Dick Barth,  rbarth%ka3ovk.uucp@uunet.uu.net

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From: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Freeman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Amiga Vs Ibm
Date: 31 Jul 92 04:34:49 GMT
Reply-To: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/126 - Lawson & Reay, Vancouver WA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23454

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hello, Chris.

You write that you assume speech software works by patching itself into
programs.  That's partially so.  Although I have not written speech
software myself, I should say that speech software for IBM compatibles,
at least, work by installing themselves as TSRs.  They patch themselves
into memory in such a way that they intercept the appropriate interrupts
so as to be able to monitor screen activity and keep track of it in
order to speak what the user asks.

I have not thought of using multitasking as a method of implementing
screen-reading software on IBM machines as until OS/2 they've not had
the capability to do real multitasking.  However, I must confess that in
trying to dream up a way to make DECwindows or MOTIF speak on a Vax/VMS
system, I thought of running a process (or subprocess) which would
monitor the appropriate things and send output to the appropriate port
which would be hooked up to a synthesizer.  But others have much more
expertise than I in this field.  I know that Doug Geoffray (author of
Vocal-Eyes) and Eric Bohlman (author of Tinytalk) both read this echo.
If you wish to get much more technical than our dialogue has been so
far, you'd get more detailed and knowledgeable info from either of them.

Glad to talk with you, though, and, as I say, there's no reason an Amega
couldn't be made to talk usefully for the blind.

As to the Internet, the only reason I have access to it is because
(don't laugh) I am the current guru for CP/M Kermit (Columbia
University's implementation) and CU gave me an account to distribute the
software to the central archive.  They said, essentially, "Do as you
like" so I've put myself on a number of mailing lists.

Great to talk with you.  Have a pleasant day.

Mike Freeman
___ CRR QWK 1.40

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From: Keith.Bucher@hnews.fidonet.org (Keith Bucher)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Nls and nfb
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:04:56 GMT
Reply-To: Keith.Bucher@hnews.fidonet.org
Organization: The Handicap News, Shelton CT (203) 337-1607
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23330

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 Quoting Mike Freeman to Bill Koppelmann Mike Freeman 07-14-92  14:46

 MF> The reason NFB remained silent is that no one brought the subject
 MF> up. I've been at every convention from 1983 on and I have heard
 MF> plenty of complaints but that one's a new one on me.

 Hello Mike, it's not a new one on me.  1.  Cylke got the NFB's Vanity
 Press book published on cassette.  2.  Cylke attends NfB conventions
 each year.  3.  He isn't nearly as punctual about ACB's.  For
 example, he didn't make it to Phoenix.  Mike, are you saying that
 NFB only talks about subjects which someone brings up? I think if
 you look back in the Monitor, that alone will be proof enough that
 NFB has, and has had for some time now, a close relationship with
 Cylke.

... But it worked during Beta testing!
    Blue Wave/QWK v2.10

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From: Donna.Siren@p19.f5.n396.z1.fidonet.org (Donna Siren)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: clocks in church
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:39:42 GMT
Reply-To: Donna.Siren@p19.f5.n396.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:396/5.19 - Pontchippi, New Orleans LA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23188

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 BK> Does church get that boring to you? <grins>  Don't worry, sometimes
 BK> I'd probably go to sleep if I weren't sitting the 2nd row from the
 BK> front.

I have dozed before, once or twice when we had a super long-winded
preacher.  It was a real temptation to bring my talking time 1 and
have the alarm set and turn it up just in time for him to hear it
say "please hurry."

               Donna

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From: Chris.Bazzie@f101.n277.z1.fidonet.org (Chris Bazzie)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Spanish
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:00:49 GMT
Reply-To: Chris.Bazzie@f101.n277.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:277/101 - House Of Pancakes, Morgantown WV
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23311

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

PS>I've heard that Hadley no longer offers language courses and I was wondering
PS>if anyone knows where I can get some Braille Spanish instruction courses.  I
PS>took it in high school and we had braille books there so I know some must be
PS>around but I'm not sure where to look.

This isn't quite what you were asking for, but I've seen several
computer spanish tutors around in various places.  You could probably
get one that would work with a speach synth and learn that way- in fact,
that would seem like a really good way to learn spanish.

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From: Glen.Sepke@f2.n348.z1.fidonet.org (Glen Sepke)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: T-Shirts
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:49:34 GMT
Reply-To: Glen.Sepke@f2.n348.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:348/2 - Man-Net-EC, Winnipeg MB
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23197

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi I have two more suggestions for T-shirt slogans:

BLINKTALK'ers do it where it ECHO'es.

or

BLINKTALK'ers think TECHTilely

(thats techtally instead of tactilely)

- Glen -

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From: Wayne.Briggs@p3.f26.n392.z1.fidonet.org (Wayne Briggs)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Appendeges & Pain
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:39:12 GMT
Reply-To: Wayne.Briggs@p3.f26.n392.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:392/26.3 - Star Express, Abilene Tx
X-Fidonet: Amputee Conference

Index Number: 23280

[This is from the Amputee Conference]

Yes, it can make a difference. That's why I had 2 flack vests.

The pain is at bit unhandy at time when pain level is a bit high &
we want to do other things. First, to reduce pain I either take a
very hot bath (hot as in Japanese hot) to reduce pain by increasing
blood flow OR usuing ice on specific pain trigger points; Second
two make sure TENS is optimal; Third, wait 15-30 minnutes BUT NOT
LONGER after taking pain meds; Fourth, if pain level still too
high, do something that my wife enjoys both for her benefit & so
that I think I have been a good husband as opposed to uselessly get
angry at the pain.

Something humerous  sad happend several months ago when I was
trying to joke with my wife about by arm and sais "Well, I can do
somethings just as well with my left hand." I remember her saying
"Oh no, but you can't. It does make a difference." (I was
internally rather sad or a bit deiastated at the time; but tried
not to show it.) She remembers saying:"Oh, it dosen't make any
difference." I may have "heard" whAt I feared or she may have
mispoke herself. For a few weeks, I stopped joking about things
like that, then we talked, laughed, cried and "Life Goes On."

I'm trying to pray each morning to God that I'll do what he in the
"Operating, Survival, Meaning  & Optominal Use Manual for Human
Beings"..forget the past..don't worry aabout tomorrow..be anxious
in nothing; and try to be the kind of person  he wants me to be. I
find it very easy for the potential accomplishments & beauty of the
day to be diverted by unnecwessary energy & time drain on useless
activity when I forget to change or do what I can & forget the
wisdom of knowing the difference between that and what I can't.This
paragraph has increase my saline production, like talking with a
sponsor or God. Guess I' being a bit honest and sence that you are
a person who loves other folks, including me who you haven't met.
Thanks!

Now I'm aware of some things I do to do with the time that is today
and will never be here again.

Bye!

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From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: ADA Violation
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:13:54 GMT
Reply-To: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA

Index Number: 23355

In <23265@handicap.news> Mark.Reynolds@f123.n202.z1.fidonet.org
(Mark Reynolds) writes:

>Isn't driving a PRIVILEDGE in every state?  I didn't think anyone
>had a RIGHT to drive, without passing ALL the rules of each state.

She has, and they've moved the bar higher because of her disability,
for what look to this reasonable man like arbitrary and capricious
reasons that have nothing to do with safe operation of a motor
vehicle.  If all drivers from out-of-state had to take a driving test,
the requirement would be fair, but applying it selectively is not.

>In California, anyone who suffers a single fainting spell loses
>their license.  Is that violating their "rights" under ADA?

This is clearly related to driving safety, but I would consider it
unfair if medical assurance that the problem would not occur again
were not sufficient to regain the license.

Rob T
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Heaven knows / No frontiers
And I've seen heaven in your eyes			- Jimmy McCarthy
From: Keith.Bucher@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Keith Bucher)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: turbo braille version
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:56:22 GMT
Reply-To: Keith.Bucher@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23382

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 Quoting Tandy Way to David Tanner 20 Jul 92 21:57:00

 TW> david do you know if there is a demo of the new turbo braille
 TW> release?

Hello Tandy, the new turbobraille demo is on Blinklink.  The nice thin
 about it is you just write "tbrl filename," and you're off.  The
 demo while only printing one page, also shows you in actual time how
 long it would take to produce the actual document.  I believe Chuck
 is now giving Autobraille with Turbobraille, and that they're both
 $295.00, but ask him to be sure.  This version seems just a bit slower
 than 2.7, and you'll no doubt see my message to him.  As soon as he
 is able to get Q&A incorporated in to it, I'm purchasing it even
 though I don't yet have a braille printer.  Like any program,
 it isn't perfect, but I like it.  One more thing, you have
 configurations you can set, sort of like in flipper.  For
 example, do you want to save your converted files to disk?  Or just
 send it to your printer? Or both?  Of course there are other things you
 can change and save as well.  Hope this helps, and let me know if you
 stump it on any of your one page print-outs.  Oh yes, there's a slash j
 command, I believe I have it right, which will let you skip a certain
 amount of pages and print a particular one.  Keith.

... This tagline is SHAREWARE!  To register, send me $10

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From: David.Andrews@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Andrews)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Turbo Braille Version 3 is ready
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:01:15 GMT
Reply-To: David.Andrews@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23395

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 -=> Quoting David Tanner to Daveed Mandell <=-

DT> Let us just say that I am told by a rep that has seen the
 DT> prototype, that one of the big access technology vendors is preparing
 DT> a interpoint printer for release late fall this year that will print
 DT> 40 characters per second, and will be priced around $2,100.00.  If
 DT> that happens it will absolutely change every thing in terms of Braille
 DT> printers for personal use.  At that kind of price, with that kind of
 DT> speed and being interpoint there will be no other printer on the
 DT> market that will be able to touch it.  The only question will be
 DT> Braille quality and reliability.

I haven't heard that rumor in exactly that form.  I have heard
about a new interpoint printer in the $2000 range, from a
manufacturer that has a reputation for making very reliable
machines, although I heard that it would print in the 10 CPS
range.

I just got the Braillo comet.  I haven't used it much yet.  the
Braille quality is better then its predecessor, the Braillo 90,
although still not quite as good as a Romeo or VersaPoint.

The printer came with no Braille manual which really hacks me off.
A personal use Braille printer should have documentation in some
kind of accessible form.  David Andrews

... Click ... click ... click ... damn, out of taglines!

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