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From: adesai@iastate.edu (Alpaa Desai)
Subject: Re: India is a poor nation.
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:00:40 GMT

In <adesai.712348737@vincent1.iastate.edu> adesai@iastate.edu (Alpaa Desai) writes:

>Time will tell these ignorant people who realy is poor.We Indian's may lack 
>abundance of cash and wealth, but we are much richer than any other country in
>every other respect. Only time will teach them a lesson when they ( the americans) find themselves to be slaves under others.

My thoughts it seems have been taken too strongly by many. Some have also shown
agreement in some ways and some have completely supported it. This morning
there were 312 responses in my e-mail box. Maybe I used a very strong statement
in expressing what I was trying to say or maybe it was too abstract that many
have read a lot between the lines.

What I was trying to get across was the point that Americans are very ignorent
and self centred. They do not care to know what is happening outside the 50 
U.S. states. It's mainly this ignorance that is causing a lot of hardships to
people around the world. Take for example the situation in Punjab and Kashmir.
Why do we have those problems in the first place? Had it not been for all the 
American aid to Pakistan and their siding with them ( I mean Pakistan), the 
Pakistanis would have never had the resources to create a havoc as they have 
been successful in doing. Some of you would ask, so where does ignorance comes
in; well had the media been playing a good role and had the people here known 
( which they still don't as they don't care to) what the repercussions were
of giving that aid, they would have lobied against it as it is nothing but
an honest americans tax money that is being converted to guns.

Do the Americans know what sort of changes the country is going through? "They 
don't know that we do have THREE astro turfs in India ( maybe more)."  If 
you are an optimist, you would have some faith in the new system that is 
evolving. A lot of you infact majority have in their mail highlighted a lot
of unplesent things in India, but let me point out that every one only knows
how to critisize and not improve things. 

I seem to be digressing from my earlier point. Anyway I will close now as 
there is no end to this discussion and I don't have time to dwell on it
too long. 

Let me though make a request; if you have any thoughts to express about 
agreement or disagreement please put it on the net, let others also hear it.
I was realy flooded with mail today. I'd rather see it on the net not in my 
mail box.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sriram@cs.uh.edu (Sriram Raghunathan)
Subject: India Boycotts Barcelona Olympics?
Keywords: boycott, little bird, Aryabhatta, Sancho Panza
Organization: Univ. of Houston
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:18:35 GMT

A friend of mine (definitely not a little bird) tells me
that India is boycotting the Barcelona Olympics.
That's why we aren't seeing India in the medals' tally,
he told me over beer last night. 
Seems that all was well until the end of the opening ceremony,
when the team was ordered to return.
Aghast as I was, I waited until the morn of today 
to consult with you knowledgeables.

Boycott indeed! Really, this thing has gone far enough!
First the Soviets and then the Americans, and now India.
The reason, he said, was something to do with the deployment
of the INSAT satellite by India in the recent past.
Spain has expressed its displeasure at such development in
a third world country, and while it barely qualifies for
second world itself, it is apparently jealous that
"netherworld countries" (I hate the way Spanish put things)
are trying to upset an established pecking order in this world,
he said.

On second thoughts however, I am quite happy with this development.
First of all, exactly who are these Spaniards to go about calling 
other countries names? And that too of India, the country
that gave the world the first zero? We have Aryabhatta and
Bhaskara, and they, heh, Sancho Panza! Some intestines, then,
to dare try and put India down.

I do regret however, the phenomenal amount of time and energy
spent by our Indian officials in culling out the cream of
Indian talent, abundantly profuse as it is, for the Olympics,
not to speak of the mind-boggling effort the athletes themselves
have put in. 

Serves Spain right, he said. Let them go to the dogs, and divide
the medals among worthless individuals performing athletics
in their spare time. A hoot and a half we care.

---
sriram
From: 10702830@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (RAJIB DATTA)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Female Bengali Pen Pals wanted.
Date: 31 Jul 92 01:27:03 GMT
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University

I would like to communicate with some bengali ladies (aged 17 - 21)
living in India or overseas.  I can be contacted at my personal e-mail 
address which is:

10702830@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au

Rajib Datta.
From: banarji@unixg.ubc.ca (Ajai Banarji)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Alt.culture.kerala- a footnote
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:05:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Originator: banarji@unixg.ubc.ca


		Alt.culture.kerala-a footnote

  There seems to be a common miscoception that Kerala is 100% literate
and that means that everyone there can read and write. This is incorrect.
  The government never said that the state is 100% literate. The official
phrase is "total literacy" where 90% of the population above the age of
8 is literate. A town, district or state is declared to be "totally
literate" when 90% of the target population is literate.
  The first town to be declared totally literate was Kottayam in around 1988.
The first district to achieve this distinction was Ernakulam, while the
state as a whole achieved this about a year ago.
  Since then a few districts in other states like Bengal have also been
declared totally literate, as well as the union territory of Pondicherry.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mgundeko@pcserver2.Naitc.Com (Murthy Gundekota)
Subject: A poem (Re: MISSING PROFESSIONALISM)
Organization: Somewhere near Chicago
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 16:02:37 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.191341.7546@cs.odu.edu> kale@aelle.cs.odu.edu (Vijay S. Kale) writes:>

> Following is a bitter experience I had in Washington DC in a supposedly
> popular and well known Indian Restaurant. There were two other friends
> with me.
> Fellow netters, I would like to invite your valuable comments/discussion especially
> in the context of above on "Why we can't do smart business in a buyers market such as US".
>

You should've mentioned the name and address of this restaurant.
Secondly, all restaurants are not created equal, that's why we have
critics who review restaurants and magazine articles to guide us (even
if we are not connoisseurs). 

That being the FYI part of my reply, here is a little
diversion:

---------------------------------------------------------------

		Desi buffet, Amirikan Style
		---------------------------
	(A poem about desi restaurants that serve buffets)
		By Murthy Gundekota



	``Come one, come all, eat all you want, pay nothing,''
	
	The desi restaurant's advertisement read in amirikan paper
	
	A weekend, starting with a rainy morning, deserves more than a
splash 
	
	The kids aren't resting after that Friday night ball

	And the girl friend is unforgiving for the cheap dinner

	The old parents need a change of food to control their farts
	
	Where else to go for redemption but to this desi restaurant?
	
	``Welcome, sahib, welcome to our great desi home, away from
home,'' 
	
	The Indian usher pronounced the first condemnation, home it
will be 
	
	The food is ancient, the menu is artsy, the buffet table is a
huge freezer 

	Dal is only ten years old, curry is as young as the chicken in
the kitchen 

	The tandoori delectables are freshly dug out by the
archeologists from Harappa clay ovens 

	Sambar still is the 0 B.C. reference for carbon dating test 

	The ambiance is a life saver, truly because it had the oxygen

	Waves of sarod music are coinciding with the spasms inside
intestines  
	
	Fortunately the educated Indian waiter knew the Heilmich
manouever 

	The kids burped out loud, the parents farted gloriously

	The girl friend started stripping too early, thanks to the 
Indian spices

	``Have a nice day sahib, we welcome your business. Your bill
is forwarded to your health insurance company. You don't need to pay'' 

	The great amirikan system knows how to adopt to the desi ways 

	I love Indian food more than American insurance companies

	Wait, it is the other way around
From: banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: May I suggest the Crick virus?
Date: 21 Jul 1992 12:10:15 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phad.hsc.usc.edu

In article <1992Jul21.120458.8807@uoft02.utoledo.edu> pvittal@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
>
>WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE GET THESE TWO BUFFOONS OFF THE NET?

Yes I agree. Crook and Wacko had it coming. Way to go dudes!!!

>NOT ONLY ARE THEY DISPLAYING THEIR IMMATURITY TO THE ENTIRE READERSHIP, BUT
>THEY ARE ALSO MISUSING THE NET. 

Yes their postings are definitely not made in good faith. Calling people
"members of the langot brigade" and genetically identifying them with the 
walrus family, just because they disagree with you is not acceptable.  

>I DONT THINK THE NAME "SOC. CULTURE. INDIAN"
>APPLIES TO THIS NEWS GROUP ANY MORE
>

Why not?  Actually we could call it alt.fan.wacko.crooked.
Now dosen't that sound better?


>ISNT THERE ANYONE WHO CAN ACT AS A MODERATOR OF THIS NEWSGROUP AND BLACKLIST
>THESE MORONS?

Sure. Who is stopping you from trying?

Samit

>
>pradeep
>
>
>
>
>
From: dharma@verdix.com (Manjeri Dharmarajan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: India Boycotts Barcelona Olympics?
Keywords: boycott, little bird, Aryabhatta, Sancho Panza
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:31:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: verdix.4583
Reply-To: dharma@VERDIX.COM (Manjeri Dharmarajan)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Verdix Western Operations; Aloha, OR

In article <1992Jul29.171835.12627@menudo.uh.edu> sriram writes:
>A friend of mine (definitely not a little bird) tells me
>that India is boycotting the Barcelona Olympics.
>That's why we aren't seeing India in the medals' tally,
>he told me over beer last night. 
>Seems that all was well until the end of the opening ceremony,
>when the team was ordered to return.
>Aghast as I was, I waited until the morn of today 
>to consult with you knowledgeables.
>
>sriram

  I just called India, and spoke to my cousin, whose former boss's nephew's
brother-in-law is very high up in Indian sports circles. He tells me that India
hasn't boycotted the olympics - just the finals. All athletes have been told
to perform below par - and avoid getting into the finals. That is why you will
see them compete in the heats, but nobody will make the finals.

  Of course, given the enormous talents of our athletes, some will win their
heats even when trying not to (ever try singing badly? - it's very hard). So
you may see some Indians in the finals, but they most definitely will not win 
medals.

  There is a baseless rumour circulating that the reason India did not just walk
out was that the officials wanted to complete their sight-seeing and shopping.
But my source assures me that this is baseless.

	Dharmarajan
From: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Siva Lingam - its shape,size and possible diameter variations !!
Date: 31 Jul 92 03:09:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


 I cannot understand why there is such a fuss about Siva Lingam ! Everybody
knows what Lingam is, right ? Someone told me that BARC has the reactor in
the shape of a Siva Lingam ! Holy Lingam ! My God !! Let Lord Siva be praised !

 I appeal to those who want to discuss (Partha Roy, Samit Banerjee and others
in particular) and address some fundamental problems in India, in particular. I
am not trying to say that knowledge about the geometric size and mythological
origins of the Siva Lingam is useless, but IMHO, there are far more important
issues to discuss. As Partha posted earlier: let's do it !!!! No offence to the
Lingam historians of the SCI :-) !!!!!

- deb chatterjee
(a good samaritan)
From: garg@vyasa.helios.nd.edu (umesh garg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re:Oregon Graduate Center, Beaverton, OR
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:14:52 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame



	Gentle folks,
		A friend of a friend (of a friend.....) is keen on getting some
	information about the Oregon Graduate Center at Beaverton, Oregon. He    	has applied to the Environmental Engineering program there and would
	like to know about the overall reputation of school/costs of living
	and tuition etc.
		If there are any folks from that school on the net, I would be
	grateful if they contact me at garg@nd.edu.
		Thank you very much.


						-Umesh Garg

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject:Info. on Oregon Grad Center 
Summary: 
Expires: 
Sender:Umesh Garg 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Keywords: 


	Gentle folks,
		A friend of a friend (of a friend.....) is keen on getting some
	information about the Oregon Graduate Center at Beaverton, Oregon. He    	has applied to the Environmental Engineering program there and would
	like to know about the overall reputation of school/costs of living
	and tuition etc.
		If there are any folks from that school on the net, I would be
	grateful if they contact me at garg@nd.edu.
		Thank you very much.


						-Umesh Garg
From: mallick@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (MALLICK, KESHAW)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: pre training for f-1
Keywords: query, f-1 , pre-training
Date: 31 Jul 92 04:49:00 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

hi netters

does anyone there knows that pre-training of F-1 visa holders
has been re-instated. please confirm through group and 
individual mail.

keshaw 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: NBC's Address.
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:54:31 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Seemingly lot of people(other than Indians) are not happy
with Bob Costas's comments during Olympics opening cermony
and some of them are writing letters to NBC. If any of our
Indian friends are planning to write such letters, here is
NBC's address

		  NBC-Sports
		  30 Rockfeller Plaza
		  New York, NY 10112

		  Tel. 212-664-2721

Good Luck.

--Sreehari.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.canada
From: ssr@cypress.com (Bapcha/FPGA)
Subject: Re: Ridiculous Health Insurance Policy
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor, San Jose, CA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:09:44 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.063721.2575@reed.edu> vganesan@reed.edu (The Phoenix) writes:
>
>After all this is the land of the brave and home of the free
>why be selfish??
>

Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave.......

Just being picky picky picky.....


-- 
Bapcha - A very bad boy from Cypress Semiconductor
3901 N.  First Strasse
San Jose,  CA 95134, 408-943-2719
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: prabhak@cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar)
Subject: Re: Astrology & Beauty Contests (was: So star charts favored perot eh..?)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:17:54 GMT

(V Nagarajan) writes:
>	4] Time and time again, astrology has proven to be an excellent
>	   predictor of the winners of Ms. Universe and other such important
>	   competitions. I realize some of the base peasants amongst the

	If Astrology really holds the prescient keys,
	To unlock the doors and pick the right MISS,
	Rather than misusing it for ephemeral thrills,
	We should perhaps pick the right stocks for eternal bliss!!

(Prabhu Balaraman, where are you, letting these opportune moments
 slip by with general disregard, aiye?)

Satya Prabhakar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bnv@po.CWRU.Edu (Boddu N. Venkatesh)
Subject: MEDICAL INSURANCE QUERY
Reply-To: bnv@po.CWRU.Edu (Boddu N. Venkatesh)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 21:58:47 GMT

Reference

Hi,

I am transferring to a different university in fall. But there is a time lag
between the time my insurance expires in the old university and the time it 
starts in the new university. In fact the lag is of 15 days. What is to be 
done during this short span of time? If anyone else has faced a similar 
problem earlier, please let me know your experience or any other info on
this account.

Thanks in advance

Venkatesh

bnv@po.cwru.edu
--
From: shubu@cs.utexas.edu (Shubhendu Sekhar Mukherjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Calcutta: Degrading social and political life.
Date: 27 Jul 92 12:15:45
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Austin, CS Dept.
Distribution: usa
	<SHUBU.92Jul23175739@oporto.cs.utexas.edu>,<25JUL199216084273@vax2.concordia.ca>
	<1992Jul26.231637.4092@menudo.uh.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: oporto.cs.utexas.edu
In-reply-to: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU's message of Sun, 26 Jul 1992 23:16:37 GMT

>>>>> In article <1992Jul26.231637.4092@menudo.uh.edu>, mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh) writes:
AG> Nntp-Posting-Host: jane.uh.edu

> Samit Banerjee's posting.) If we choose to remain indisciplined, by adhering 
> to the stone-walling tactics that you, Aditi and Arindam plus some donkey-
> brained `pseudo-intellectuals' have adopted, then such hypocrisy will get us
> nowhere ! Am I abundantly clear, Mr.Shubhendu Sekhar Mukherjee ???
>
> - deb chatterjee
>(a good samaritan)
AG> Well, I don't know about Aditi I am not concerned what you are going to do.
AG> Your plans do not conflict with mine. But please do something: don't chant
AG> destabilize: show how to do it.

Just a word of advice to Mr.Chatterjee.  Read the postings carefully before
coming out with hard words and making a fool of yourself on the net.  You
*didn't* understand at all what I meant in my posting which you have referred 
to.  And also, you made the same mistake again in the posting which Arindam 
is refering to.  

Frankly speaking I am tired of your rattling about destabilization - so 
typical of a 'pseudo-intellectual'.  As the idiom goes - don't throw stones
if you are living in a glass-house.

Luck!
-Shubu


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From: sadhal@alhena.usc.edu (Sati Sadhal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Olympics Opening Ceremony
Date: 29 Jul 1992 14:37:21 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: alhena.usc.edu

In article <l7dsclINNm8k@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu> sunder@altair.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder) writes:
>In article <l7do2tINNeb8@alhena.usc.edu>, sadhal@alhena.usc.edu (Sati Sadhal) writes:
>|> 
>|> with which the statement was made, "....but India is SUCH a poor 
>|> nation......" that's offensive. Clearly, such a statement would
>|> never be made about China, primarily because China is a nuclear
>|> power with launch capability. That is the only language that the

>
>Bob Costas made a LOT of comments about every single country
>that came by. There was some mention of Tiananmen square when the
>Chinese team came by, and there is always at least a subliminal
>reference to the fact that China is NOT a country where the people
>are free, especially when they talk about Chinese athletes being
>conditioned by the state almost from birth, seeing their parents
>only twice a year, etc. 
>
I must have missed the comments about China. The general trend,
however, with the media is that it is much less derogatory 
towards China than India. 

>Besides, he said that we are a poor country. It might be derogatory
>(not as far as I can see), but it is true. In fact, every Indian
	[...stiff deleted]
>
>He also said that we don't have astro-turf surfaces. From what I've 
>heard on the net, we DO have some astro-turf surfaces, but hardly any 
>per capita to qualify as enough. And I am yet to see a good reason for 
>WHY we don't have that many astro-turf surfaces. Could it be that we 
	[stuff deleted]
>-- 
>Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu
>
The point was that we are getting hung up on facts and bean counting
when the whole issue is one of rhetoric. The entire thing could have be 
said as "It is much more economical for India to use natural turf...."
instead of "... India is such a poor country..." The offensive part
is that commentator siezed the opportunity (backed by some facts and
some half-truths) and made India look extremely bad. He did the same
with several other countries. What Mr. Sunder is talking about is
a legal defense for the commentator. What I am talking about is
decency and respect on the air waves. 

                                          SSSadhal




Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mgundeko@pcserver2.Naitc.Com (Murthy Gundekota)
Subject: Re: MEN of EASTERN origin
Organization: Somewhere near Chicago
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 21:07:31 GMT

In article <92209.133627ICKUL@ASUACAD.BITNET> <ICKUL@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
>Quite a number of Eastern men
>are scums, but on the other hand, I know many others who are the
>reverse.  

In this half a hearted article, there is a minor discord. The reverse of   
`scums' is smucs, unless smucs should mean healthy men without bronchal
afflictions.

Thank you for your kind support,

Schmuck,

Murthy


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vrg@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (v.r.gopala.rao)
Subject: Re: CVF: alt.culture.maharashtra
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 19:59:51 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.135405.26909@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com writes:
>How about creating a new group called alt.culture.maharashtra?
>Everybody seems to be creating new groups.

Does not sound like a good reason for creating any newsgroup.


>
>**********************************************************************
>               Vijay Joglekar - arbiter elagantiarum
> Disclaimer: These are my opinions and my opinions only. Has nothing
>                      to do with where I work.
>            Littera scripta manet: Credo quia absurdum
>**********************************************************************

rao
From: x92nath@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Hinduism and Equality ? re
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:22:15 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

Hi readers,
	I used to read that Hindu religion believes that every human being
is same, love for humanity and so many ideal statements...
	But now I find that, in our country it isnot so.  We do differentiate
in people based on their cast, religion,status,profession,region,age and so
many things.  At least in India I have never seen a Vice-chancellor of
University sitting and eating with a custodian.  I think Americans are more
free about it.  They don't need so called class of peon and bara sahib etc.
	For marriages also, they are not so fussy over the status of families.
Prehaps they are great believer in equality than so called in Hinduism.
Why there are so differeces in people in India ? in their so called philosophy
and practice.
	We never see a grad. student working as a waiter in restourants, there
they feel small, but here noone minds that.
Is this our religion or we donot follow but we are taught ?
From: rkv@acsu.buffalo.edu (Rajeev K. Verma)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Is there any HINDI Word Processor Out There?????????????
Date: 25 Jul 92 03:46:01 GMT
Organization: University of Buffalo, New York, USA

Hi,

	Is there any HINDI Word Processor out there?


			Good Day

		      Rajeev Verma


e-mail: rkv@acsu.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian