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From: jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Ride to AFM sunday morning -- details
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:03:55 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames


Ok, here's a plan:

south bay:  Leave Bay City Coffee at 0730hrs.  I don't think they're
open that early, but I figure most of us will show up around 0729hrs.
:-)  We'll take a leasurely pace (I'm limited to 70mph, but we should
probably stick to the speed limit as evidenced by Raible and I getting
nailed).  280 to the GGB.

North bay: Meet us at the north-bound side parking lot on the north
side of the Golden Gate Bridge between 0830 and 0900.

From there, it's a matter of going up 101 to 37, right on 37, left on
121, and Sears Point is on the left...

If you're coming from north of the GGB, you should probably just head
on up to Sears Point, or wait for us on some off-ramp (you can pretend
you're a cop :-) and play catch-up.

Admission to the races is $12, this includes pit access.

Bring food (unless you're a rich carnivore), drinks, (unless you're
rich), sunscreen (+ a hat if you don't get much sun on your unhelmeted
head), and all your cool racing-emblazoned clothes. :-)

--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
                              '92 R100R, DoD# 0378
 "Nude wheelies are probably the ultimate in squidliness."  -- someone at
                                                          Lissa's party
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: douglas@netcom.com (Douglas Mason)
Subject: Where to find cheap bikes...
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 03:08:30 GMT
Organization: Approach Software Corp.  Redwood City, CA  94063
Distribution: na

Having moved here from the midwest a while back the first thing I was
shocked to see was not only how high older bikes went for, but also
the amount of mileage that these beasts have.

If you have some relatives in the midwest, have them look through the
newspapers for you.  Since you only have a few months out of the year
that are nice out, bikes tend to have REALLY low mileage.  I went through
a rash of used bikes the last few years, here is what I paid for these
things -- and I only bought them if they were REALLY imacculate, I mean
not a touch of dirt or scratch.  All of these were actually bought in 
exactly the past year:

1982 Yamaha Seca 650 Turbo - 1100 ACTUAL miles - $1100
1987 Yamaha FZ700 - 2300 actual miles - $2200
1991 Suzuki GSXR-750 - 1800 miles with tons of accessories - $4300
1991 Kawasaki ZX-7 - 2400 miles with matching helmet - $4000

While I shopped around for these things, the prices were not that hard
to come by.  You could buy '91 ZX-7's all day long with  <3000 miles for
$4500.  In 1990 I bought a CBR500 with 4500 miles for $300.

It's especially easy to find older bikes (pre-1985 or so) because people
tend to put a cover on them at put them in the garage for winter and they
never come back out.

On the other hand it was VERY rare to see a BMW bike in the midwest.  I
have been riding for years and before I came out here only saw maybe 1
or 2 of them.  Out here people tend to use them for real transportation
and keep them a long time.  In the midwest people tend to use roadbikes
as a weekend toy and seem to be really psycho about keeping them looking
like new since nobody seems to keep them longer than a year or so.

If anyone plans on visiting the midwest, especially Indiana, I subscribe
to an online classified listing and I could send you copies of various
bike ads that are current.

-Doug

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Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: gwu@nujoizey.tcs.com (George Wu)
Subject: Re: Looking for non-anal-retentive moto examiner
Organization: Teknekron Communications Systems Inc.
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 00:52:47 GMT

-
     Well, personally, I thought the El Cerrito DMV has got *THE*
easiest test of them all.  I went there to get my motorcycle learner's
permit.  Since I had a couple of tickets, and my cage liscense was
going to expire in less than one year, they made me retake the cage
written test.

     When I returned to the clerk with two tests and various forms,
she must have gotten confused.  She typed up some forms, and sent me
to the photo station with a car and M1 validation.  Note, that's a
full M1 liscense, not a motorcycle learner's permit.

     Yup, I didn't touch down a foot even once when I got my motorcycle
liscense.  :-)

							George


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From: mvij@ocf.berkeley.edu (Pendragon)
Newsgroups: ucb.wanted,ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Hein Gericke jacket and Shoei helmet for sale
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:06:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: monsoon.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Sep8.140621.26263@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston) writes:
>In article <18hs19INNcc0@agate.berkeley.edu>,
>mvij@ocf.berkeley.edu (Pendragon)writes:
>
>>Hein Gericke V-Pilot leather jacket
>>One month old.  Barely used.  Perfect condition.  $300 obo.
>
>>prices beat mail order.
>
>nothing personal, but from the october motorcyclist:
>
>hg v-pilot  $285.95 (and shipping ran me $8)

Price is negotiable, of course.  I'll make it worthwhile to buy it by
beating mail-order.

>my post of recent: v-pilot, 44, perf. cond. -- $225 (free shipping)

Was yours an older jacket, or were you being Santa Claus?  I'm basing
the price on what I paid for it and what it goes for through mail order.

>
>weren't these the items you wore when you had the infamous wheelie-gone-bad
>episode?
>

Unfortunately, the only thing between the tar and me was my denim.  I didn't
hit my head, and the jacket got off without a scratch.  'Stupidity, thy
name is newbie,' indeed -- a mere low-speed unscheduled getoff.

But thanks for remembering ;).

BTW, why am I selling?  I'm a student; after summer, riding mainly on 
weekends in the Berkeley hills; need a jacket which I can wear off the bike
as well as on.  The red/blk HG is, like race leathers, very conspicuous 
away from the bike.

Need to pay the rent, so I want a cheaper jacket (yes, I'm down to chiseling
a couple of hundred bucks).  And the helmet?  Well, a Blaze is very squidlike
and flashy (not that these are bad things, mind you) but .. err ... I'd
rather have a lighter, better helmet in a solid color.  What, you don't
buy that?  Well, maybeitdoesn'tmatchthebike.  There.  I've said it.  YMMV.

Manish
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From: 928s4@leland.Stanford.EDU (Benjamin Sloss)
Subject: Re: Ungo box M/C alarm
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 22:29:18 GMT

blave@netcom.com (David W. Blevins) writes:
>I ended up with the Scorpio alarm after comparing it to the Ungo.  Does the
>Ungo do any sensing other than tilt?  (I much prefer the Ungo tilt sense
>method, BTW.)  The Scorpio does current sensing, etc.

  The Ungo box will sense any sort of movement  except for up/down.  It's
a clever design: a glass tube with some mercury inside is surrounded by a 
wound coil.  If the mercury moves at all, it changes the magnetic field
induced by the coil, and thus will induce small current fluctuations 
in the coil.  The Ungo computer then determine whether these fluctuations
warrant activating the alarm.  The beauty of the system is that there are no
moving parts, so vibration from the M/C engine will not wear the sensor out.

>
>Blave
-- 
Ben Sloss        ben@versant.com (415) 329-7500 x172
Quote:          "It's all fun and games until someone gets paid."
Transportation: '83 CB650SC (straight roads) '93 CBR 900RR   (twisty roads)
		'91 XR 250L (dirty    roads) '87 Mustang 5.0 (wet    roads)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: robert@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Robert Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Cycle City (Was: Re: where to go for honda service)
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: 10 Sep 92 02:33:05 GMT

raible@nas.nasa.gov (Eric Raible) writes:
>...The first time I tried swapping some electrical parts into a 85
>nighthawk to attempt to fix a charging problem.  They were somewhat
>helpfull, and didn't seem to mind fetching used parts from the back,
>and letting me install them.  As it turns out, I couldn't find the
>problem, so I left the bike there for them  to fix.  They charged me
>around $28 to fix it.  [ robert - do you want to comment on this? ]

Background for those who don't know is that I bought that very same
bike from Eric the very same next day. The only comment I have is that
there was subsequently a different problem with the charging system,
and I tried to fix it myself, and went to Cycle City when I couldn't.
As in Eric's experience, they were very friendly about letting me run
tests on their showroom bikes (they happened to have an 85 Nighthawk
for sale), and about letting me borrow their used parts to check out
what was wrong with my bike. It turned out that like Eric, I left the
bike with them to fix, and when I went to get it, they said they
couldn't ever get it to misbehave, and it was probably a loose
connection. The problem was not intermittent for me, so I have a
suspicion that when Eric had it in there, they carelessly left a
harness undone or a connection loose or something, and when I took it
back, they realized or found the mistake, fixed it, and didn't own up.
They charged me nothing, and my suspicion could be wrong, so I feel
like they were very fair to me.

>...quite helpful once you get their attention, but pretty slow.

I have had the experience of lethargy with them, too. They've been
fast lately for me, but toward the beginning of the summer when
everyone hauls their poorly-stored bikes in for help getting them
started for the first time this year, they tend to severely
underestimate the time it'll take them to get to your work.

	-- Robert
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From: mvij@ocf.berkeley.edu (Pendragon)
Newsgroups: ucb.wanted,ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Hein Gericke jacket and Shoei helmet for sale
Date: 8 Sep 1992 09:33:29 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: monsoon.berkeley.edu




For SALE: %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%


Hein Gericke V-Pilot leather jacket

- size 42 men's
- fully vented, front and back (patented)
- black and red (greater visibility)
- snap-out thermal lining
- thick leather, double padded at shoulders and elbows

. . .  but if you're a biker, you already know it's a great jacket.

One month old.  Barely used.  Perfect condition.  $300 obo.


=============

Shoei  Blaze helmet

- size Small (fits my large head, though)
- great blue/green/yellow graphics
- based on popular RF200

One month old.  Barely used.  With original packaging.  $190 obo.


These prices beat mail order.
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   mvij@ocf.berkeley.edu                       |/_\  -- -  --   - 
                                                \_/.  .  . . ........
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From: denis@apldbio.com (Denis Concordel)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Street legal Husky
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:39:38 GMT
Followup-To: ba.motorcycles
Distribution: ba,ca
Organization: Applied Biosystems, Inc

Since my XT600 has been turned into a street machine, I would like to
make my huqvarna 510 street legal to participate to a couple of dual sports
rides.
Does anyone knows what it required by the DMV to be able to get an individual
licence for such a bike. It's a single four stroke with lights. It should
easily meet the noise requirements, adding a horn and turn signals should
be pretty easy... what else ? DOT legal tires (do they care ?) ?

Has anybody done that before ? Any information welcome.

Denis Concordel
Applied Biosystems, Inc
denis@apldbio.com

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From: slf@netcom.com (Sharon Fisher)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Parking on the sidewalk?
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:25:35 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

My partner once took up a regular parking space, and during the night
some people picked up and moved his bike so that they could park there.
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: howland@noc2.arc.nasa.gov (Curtis Howland)
Subject: Parking on the sidewalk?
Organization: NASA Science Internet Project Office
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 12:20:43 GMT

This brings to mind a question:

In article <SES676T@netmbx.netmbx.de>, fischer@netmbx.netmbx.de (Axel Fischer) writes:
 (German Nazi tactics toword bikes...)
|> The latest try is banning the motorcycles to park on the sidewalks
|> in the cities. They say we have to park like the cars or get a ticket.
...
|> -Axel
|> -- 
|> fischer@netmbx.de                               DoD #0228

I've seen a few bikes parked on the sidewalks here too. I know that
parking on the street I need to put the back tire against the curb,
but are there any guide lines about sidewalks? Seems a good idea if
there's room....

---
Curt Howland        DoD#0663      '82 V45 Sabre
            howland@nsipo.nasa.gov 
  If any of these words are caught or killed,
NASA will disavow any knowlege of my existence.
From: lamorte@netcom.com (R. Scott LaMorte)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I want...
Date: 9 Sep 92 06:51:24 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

robert@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Robert Kennedy) writes:

>An important consideration in any bike these days is its comfort
>during those rides you take with, umm...., spartan clothing. A cold
>fuel tank against your bare crotch can really detract from the
>motorcycling experience, or so I've heard. You might also consider a
>sheepskin seat cover, since if you use one of Lissa's light green
>towels, it could fall off in the street.

Hmmm, with bare ride may indeed be a consideration, I doubt I'll be
doing much of that on the streets. Although a good, solid center-stand
is a must.

While I do indeed have light-green towels, I don't know any Lissa...
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: markk@tcsi.tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Subject: Re: Concord Kawasaki
Originator: markk@rigel
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:38:02 GMT


markb@wc.novell.com writes:
[Concord Kawasaki]
>Has anyone had any experience with their service department?

I took my 900 Ninja to Concord Kawasaki for tires and had them do some
minor maintence work (change brake and fork fluids).  The work, while
pretty simple, was done properly and quickly.  No complaints.


I also had my Ninja at Diablo Kawasaki in Walnut Creek to have the
carbs cleaned because I had a stuck float valve.  It took them 1.5
weeks to do the work, and when I got the bike back it ran like sh*t
with a HUGE hesitation and it was idleing at 500 RPM (should be
1000-1100).  There is no excuse for allowing a customer to ride off on
a bike that runs this bad.  I decided not to take it back to them to
even though they would have to fix it for free.  I can't spare the
bike for that long again right now and I have no confidence in their
QA or in their ability correct the problems with the bike.  I tweaked
the idle and I'll pull the carbs this fall and re-do the job I paid
them to do myself (it is, for now, my daily driver).

--
)V(ark)<               markk@tcs.com                   DoD #400
1988 FZR400            1985 ZX900 Ninja             1977 RD400D
From: robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Robinson)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: where to buy an used motorcycle
Date: 7 Sep 1992 20:53:59 GMT
Organization: Institute of Cognitive Studies, U.C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: cogsci.berkeley.edu

In article <t3mnmrc.dmatejka@netcom.com> dmatejka@netcom.com (Daniel Matejka) writes:
>Why is it in the ba. newsgroup, no one ever gets flamed?

The greatly increased likelihood of someday meeting the flamee in person
might have something to do with it.


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Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: ilsa@netcom.com (Ilsa VanHook)
Subject: Re: Ride to AFM sunday morning -- details
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 18:46:44 GMT
Organization: Shonen Knife Fan Club
Distribution: ba

blave@netcom.com (David W. Blevins) writes:
>OK, I'm confused.  I could have sworn I heard "Saturday" as the day for
>the races at Sears.  Is there racing on both Sat. and Sun. or is my
>hearing even worse than I thought?

this month is special!  there's an endurance race saturday instead of the
usual new rider's school/practice or whatever.  so you *could* go saturday
and actually see racing, but...

the usual collection of shorter races, "sprints" i guess they call them,
is on sunday.
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Re: I want...
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 05:56:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.171555.3128@microunity.com> jeff@MicroUnity.com
(Jeff 'Giga-hurts' Kaskey) writes:
>In article <42qnwlg.lamorte@netcom.com>, lamorte@netcom.com (R. Scott LaMorte) writes:
>|> I want something with *class* and
>|> *style*. I want BAD, not COOL.
>|> 
>|> I want something with lots of glossy black. And some chrome, doesn't
>|> have to be a lot. I want a straight, low handlebar position. I want
>|> handling, good power, and a great feel. 
    ^^^^^^^^
>|> What kind of bikes should I look into ?
>
>I can think of no better machine than a Sportster - your needs, desires
>and wallet will determine what year, but your specifications are basically
>a dictionary definition for Sportster.

Not quite.

>They are light, easy to adapt with your favorite bars, seat, tank, fairing,
          ^^^^^

Compared to what?

>whatever, the new Evolutions are capable of being modified to produce nearly
>100 hp (see passing comment from Nick Inastchchst in current Motorcyclist. 
>OK, I can't spell his name ...), the old iron lungs will make more like 70 
>to 80 reliably, handling will be different from your familiar superbike, but
>some appropriate tweeks can be applied to suit your preferences.  Parts are
>easy to get, and they don't have Lucas electrics :-)

I'd look at Moto Guzzis.  If you're ambitious enough to take care
of an older bike, check out 850 Nortons and bevel-drive Ducatis.
Some of these bikes might show up a little far over on the
"cool" side, though....  maybe a Triumph with the "La Honda TT"
modifications that were popular in the '70s: bobbed fenders,
solo seat and pillion pad, shortie pipes tucked under the
engine for more cornering clearance, battery eliminator,
hot cam, bigger carburetors, and so on.  Your choice whether
to leave the stock tank on (a real classic) or put on a Fiberglas
flat-track tank to save weight and give a lower, sleeker profile.
40 or 50 pounds lighter than stock, loud, and good looking.
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@forel.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: douglas@netcom.com (Douglas Mason)
Subject: Re: Where to find cheap bikes...
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 03:13:47 GMT
Organization: Approach Software Corp.  Redwood City, CA  94063
Distribution: na

In article <5!vn#an.douglas@netcom.com> douglas@netcom.com (Douglas Mason) writes:

>While I shopped around for these things, the prices were not that hard
>to come by.  You could buy '91 ZX-7's all day long with  <3000 miles for
>$4500.  In 1990 I bought a CBR500 with 4500 miles for $300.

Oops -- I meant a CB550 -- my mistake!

-DM


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Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: acuff@CAMIS.Stanford.EDU (Richard Acuff)
Subject: Re: Parking _anywhere_
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:35:06 GMT

I took the bike to a conference  at Asilomar (near Monterey) because I
knew parking was scarce there.  I parked in a huge spot too narrow for
a cage and got ticketted.  I was furious.  I tracked down the revenuer
that issued the ticket and he was adamat.  Luckily, his partner had a
modicum of sense and gave me a number to call.  Unfortunately, the
number didn't do any good as they never answered.  Well, I took
pictures of the bike in the space, and sent them along with letter
after letter to the court.  I won't bore you with the tale of
unbelievable bureaucracy.  Suffice it to say that I finally got a form
saying "not guilty" but with "fine assessed, $10".  At that point I
declared a moral victory, paid the $10, and thought it was over.

Then came my registration renewal from the DMV, demanding, you guessed
it, my ticket fee (with escallations).  Their instructions clearly
stated that I couldn't renew until I'd either paid up or delivered
form XYZ-234123 (or some such).  I duly sent off for the form, only to
receive another copy of the thing I already had, so I took that to the
DMV where I was told I was late and would have to pay a late penalty,
even though it was not my fault I was late.  *sigh*

After several letters to the DMV trying to get justice, I gave up,
paid the fees and (having finished repairing the broken chain tensioner on
the bike) started riding again.

Once again, the forces of "screw you" prevail.  I just didn't have the
time and energy to take them to court.

I hope you fight your ticket and win, but be sure to cover the DMV
angle.  They tell me I should have paid the fees even though I didn't
have the form.

	-- Rich
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles,ba.market.vehicles
From: edg@netcom.com (Ed Greenberg)
Subject: 1990 Suzuki Katana 750 For Sale in Silicon Valley
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 22:35:17 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Reply-To: norm_secula@3mail.3com.com
Distribution: ba

Posted for a friend who does not read the net.  Reply-to set to point to
him, but better to phone. 

Bike lives in the Santa Clara area.  Distribution set to ba.

1990 Suzuki Katana 750

 - 5600 miles, excellant condition
 - Just serviced (complete tuneup)
 - Includes the following:
    - Shoei Helmet
    - Kryptonite Lock
    - Tank bag
    - Cover

 $4000.00        
 Contact Norm Secula at 764-5356



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From: jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: where to buy an used motorcycle
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:59:37

"dmatejka" == Daniel Matejka <dmatejka@netcom.com> writes:

dmatejka> particularly remember someone advertising a '91 Nighthawk
dmatejka> 750 with several thousand miles for $3800.  $3800?!?  Wasn't

I have one for sale, but I am asking $3000, not $3800.  That includes
a new rear tire and the 8000 mile service that it needs.

--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
                              '92 R100R, DoD# 0378
      "Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads." -- R & G Are Dead