From: nistuk@unixg.ubc.ca (Richard Nistuk)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: How much $$$/Org/year ? An estimate!
Keywords: Holee Freeholees!
Date: 23 Nov 92 07:50:19 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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In article <1992Nov23.042948.3318@random.ccs.northeastern.edu> 
rogue@ccs.northeastern.edu (Free Radical) writes:
>In article <1992Nov22.005128.23076@lds-az.loral.com>
>jerry@lds-az.loral.com (J Barbera) writes: 
>>In article <1992Nov20.072527.6542@u.washington.edu>
>mkkuhner@phylo.genetics.washington.edu (Mary K. Kuhner) writes: 
>>>jerry@lds-az.loral.com (J Barbera) writes:
>>>>mkkuhner@phylo.genetics.washington.edu (Mary K. Kuhner) writes:
>[...]

[REAMS O' Stuff deleted: not because it wasn't interesting, of course,
my apologies to the authours!]


>[...]
Mary, I believe, says:
>>>The occultist Isaac Bonewits made a list of 14 danger signs to consider
>>>when joining an organization.  Scientology, according to what I've read
>>>in its own publications, rings several of those warning bells:  attempt
>>>to control communication, intolerance of criticism, lack of humor,
>>>obsession with money, emphasis on the leader, claims of infallibility.

Jon retorts:
>>Obsession with money?  The money is needed for organization survival.
>>The obsession is with survival if anything.

Free suggests:
>Do you believe Scn as a whole needs more money?  Does most of the
>money taken in go towards upkeep and 'organization survival', or does
>it head Up & Up until it disappears?  Maybe we should start a new
>thread, and try to estimate the Church's financial situation.  Make
>some assumptions, plug in some figures, see what turns up.  Maybe my
>hunch is wrong, but I think the Church takes in _far_ more than is
>needed to keep it afloat.  Let's play with some numbers, & see.

Ooooh!  Ooooh! Me!  Me! Meeeeee!  :-*  <--anal retentive smiley

O.K. here we go.  I haven't phoned the local Org yet, so I don't know
the "exact" ( note the quotes ;-)  ) numbers.  But I feel that my 
value of 500,000 PC's, in the past ten years, is a valid guess.
(In fact I will be a bit more conservative!)

[NB: pay close attention to the disclaimers, Jonathon has said 
that the information he gave us was out-of-date]

     Lets look at my "handy AOLA envelope", see a previous post,
and that good old TIME(SLIME to Scn'ers) article for more 
detials.  Lets first look at that ten percent of PC's who actually
climb up that bridge(see a previous post with the estimation that
there are 50,000 cases, actually let's be conservative!  Say 10,000
successful cases(remember that Jonathon admitted that he was posting
out-of date information in his FAQ, but shee-it!, that's never stopped
me b'fore! ;-) ).  

From the TIME article:
     Personality test:    FREE!
     Auditing(12.5hrs*$500/hr)                $6250.00
     Say 3 communications courses 3*$250.00=  $ 750.00
     Clear Certainty Rundown                  $2800.00
     NEW! O.T. I (from AOLA)                  $2200.00
     O.T. II (from AOLA)                      $4300.00
     O.T. III (from AOLA)                     $7300.00
     O.T. IV  (ditto)                         $6600.00
     O.T. V-VII  (TIME)                      $25600.00
     Case Check (AOLA )-gotta have one!       $ 625.00
     Purification Rundown for the brave!      $2250.00
     Hubbard(R) Key to Life Course (AOLA)     $8750.00
     OT Doctorate (only for the succesful!    $4500.00
     --------------------------------------------------
Total: per successful case.           only(!):$71925.00 

O.K. so we now have(roughly) $71925.00/successful scientologist.

now lets look at the 90% who say "this is crazy!", lets say that 
this 90% quits, on average, at the halfway mark, some quit early
some quit later, but *on average* they quit after paying $71925/2
=35962.50.  Lets be conservative, and give the unsuccessful PC 
a bit more brains and round down, so *on average* the unsuccessful
PC quits after paying $30000.00.

	What have we got?

Scn income for the past ten years = ?
      = 100,000 unsuccessful PCs' * $30,000.00 /unsuccessful PC
         + 10,000 successful Scns' * $71,925.00 /successful Scn
      = $3.596*10^9 from unsuccessful PCs' + $7.19*10^8 from successful Scns'
      = $4.32*10^9 in the past ten years where the Scn claims (see 
disclaimers) "tens of thousands" of success stories.

Now,  how much per org per year?

$4.32*10^9 / 450 Orgs / 10 years = $959,000.00 /Org/year

Wow!  And that's a *very* conservative estimate!

What about my earlier guess of 50,000 successes and 500,000 failures
(failures in a manner of speaking of course!).   Well... just
multiply the above number by five!

	5 * $959,000.00 /Org/Year = 4,795,000 /Org/year.

note that this assumes only NINE succesful scientologists /Org/month,
and 90 unsuccessfull scientologists.

[deleted: more stuff!]

the TIME(SLIME) article reffered to is:
Behar, Richard. "The Thriving Cult of Greed and Power".  TIME. May 6,
1991. pages 44-52.  (very interesting B.T.W)


     Nuff' said!

     ARC'tung baby!
-- 
Richard Nistuk               4th Yr Physics at U.B.C.
nistuk@unixg.ubc.ca
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology