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From: "james kewageshig" <james.kewageshig@canrem.com>
Subject: moving morphs->how??
Reply-To: "james kewageshig" <james.kewageshig@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 12 Nov 92 01:39:24 EST

Hi All,
With all the Morph Wars going on here, I was wondering if someone
could explain the procedure for doing a morph on a moving object??

I know how you do it on 2 static images, but how does it work on
a series of images? Do you have a bunch of frames in front of you
and on each one you add the control points and the coressponding
points on the next frame, and so on... is that right?

If thats the case instead of the program doing all the 'tweens
for you, you would end up having to specify the points all along
the morph... a lot of work.

('Star Wars 2: Episode VII: The Morph Wars'  ;) )
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From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Best way to view GIF images on a A3000.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 12:15:57 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

>I am disappointed at the quality of gif images, as I currently display
>them on my A3000 (I'm using a utility called VirtGif, just like I did
>on my A2000).
>
>Are there better viewing programs?  Better yet, can I take advantage
>of any new modes on the A3000 to get better results?  I'm pretty much
>a newbie to graphics on the A3000.  Are there boards that I can buy to
>improve GIF viewing?  Will other stuff work with the boards?
>
>Thanks in advance for any and all help and comments.
>
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>
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[wiping drool off modem....]
Sure you can buy one of the many available enhanced display card
type things, and shove it into yer 3000 and see a lot more colors at
once. One nifty gizmo is DCTV which takes the input and sends it out
as NTSC color television, which you can view on a teevee or a monitor
with composite color inputs. Runs about $400 at Amiga shops. It has
a built-in digitizer too. DCTV isn't a true "24 bit display", rather
it's similar in quality to VHS video tape... a few million colors
with some chroma-crawl or "smearing" depending on the quality of the input.
DCTV is small external box and works on any Amiga with a few meg'o'RAM.
Another even prettier (although less flexible) solution is the Impulse
Firecracker24 RGB Analog display card. It's a Zorro-II full-length card
you shove into your computer, and can passthru your monitor's signal.
The display of the FC24 is nothing less than spectacular, true, real
24 bit RGB color, every single pixel individually addressable. It doesn't
get much better or cleaner than this on an Amiga. You can't animate
on the FC24, it's too slow for that, but the display is so good
you maynot care :) You can also use it with a 2nd monitor.

Sells for about $800 at dealers.. check c.s.a.marketplace. I've seen
used units as low as $500 there recently. FC24 comes with a paint
program which can even drive an Epson Scanner if you add one later. 
And a lot of popular software programs, such as ADPro, Imagine,
VistaPro2, ImageMaster, and others support it directly. 

There are other 24bit and pseudo 24bit units available for the Amiga.
I own both of the above, their displays are quite different but 
either will display GIF pics or 24 bit files with more color and
clarity than any "native" Amiga display mode in the 3000. 

Harv
From: koren@fc.hp.com (Steve Koren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Aladdin 4D
Date: 13 Nov 92 19:46:17 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
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Ivan Ivanick (ESRLPDI@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU) wrote:

>  Any insights on how this upgrade is handled?  Sending them a manual,
>  a disk, proof of purchase, etc?  Any information gratefully received,

I just called Adspec.  It sounded to me like you just had to prove to
them they you bought the other package.  They said a copy of the front
of your manual would do nicely.  This manages to bring the software down
to a manageable cost:

  List price:       $499
  Dealer price:     $399
  Mail order price: $300
  Adspec trade-in:  $219

They said they don't support the display database yet or AGA, but will
come out with an upgrade for that.  They claim Aladdin 4D runs OK on a
4000 under 3.0.

(There is a review of this package in Oct92 issue of Amazing Amiga.  The
fellow who wrote the review sounded thrilled with it).

   - steve
From: bo24+@andrew.cmu.edu (Berend Ozceri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: A4000 display placement
Date: 13 Nov 92 07:28:47 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I received my A4000 two days ago and am busy playing around with it.
However, I noticed one problem (irritation): The DblNTSC mode shows way
to much to the right on my C1960 monitor. Even if I turn the horizontal
phase control all the way to the left, there is still a 2-inch margin
between the monitors left edge and the display start.

Now I know that the monitor files have tooltypes for setting HBSTRT,
HBSTOP, HSSTRT, and HSSTOP. However I do not know what values I should
use. Most of the values I try give garbage on screen.

Can anyone help?
From: blackbelt@cup.portal.com (Ben - Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Important new Imagemaster released
Date: Thu,  5 Nov 92 23:21:03 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Tom,

They've "pre" announced it here in the US.

It's AGA, 2 meg chip, 600-style case + numeric keypad, PCMIA slot, CPU
slot and some expansion. Looks like room for a mth copro, but not included.,
No MMU, it's a 68EC020 running at 14 mhz - which means 16 mb of ram, max,
period (unless maybe the CPU slot can fix that). Dunno too much more than
that, though - might ask some Euros, as they've actually got it released
over there.

Ben
From: Kermit@cup.portal.com (Kermit Royce Woodall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Trying to find the perfect morpher
Date: Sat,  7 Nov 92 09:04:49 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>>Amiga morphing packages:
>
>Two questions:
>
> o are any of these products compliant with the 2.0 Style Guide?
> o has a release date been set for Mirage?

CineMorph is fully 2.0 Style Guide compliant, ImageFX (formerly called
Mirage) closely adheres to the 2.0 Style Guide as well.   While both
programs adhere to 2.0 Style Guide, they also still work perfectly under
AmigaDOS 1.3, (and 1.2 for that matter) and retain almost all of the look
and feel of 2.0!

ImageFX started shipping on Monday, November 2nd, 1992!!  For more informatio
just contact GVP at (215) 337-8770 and ask for the ImageFX/Cinemorph press
kit.

Kermit Woodall
Nova Design, Inc.
From: pk-asdg@cup.portal.com (Perry S Kivolowitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Best Full Colour Scanner for the Amiga ??
Date: Sun,  8 Nov 92 18:52:50 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Reji Martin,   Prince Edward Island, Canada says:

>Can anybody advise me on what is the best full colour
>scanner, one that is compatible with the Amiga.
>
>A couple of scanners are available locally (HP ScanJet IIc
>and the Espon 3000c ). But I do not know how they are
>attached/run on an Amiga.
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated!

The EPSON ES-300C has been the best selling color flatbed scanner
on the Amiga. So much so, that it won the Amazing Computing 
Reader's Choice award from 1992. It has been our best selling
scanner controller as well, by several orders of magnitude.

EPSON will be making some announcements at Comdex next week,
which I can't discuss. I'll be able to tell you more about them
soon. (ASDG will make related announcements at the same
time).

RE: HP ScanJetIIc, after sitting on one for more than a year...
we'll finally have an announcement to make shortly.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: philipm@cs.kuleuven.ac.be (Philip Marivoet)
Subject: Re: Retina graphics board
Organization: Dept. Computerwetenschappen
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:42:21 GMT

I got some mails asking to post the specs on the RETINA gfx board from
Macro Systems. As I don't have them with me at the moment, I'll post
them ASAP so watch this space. In the meanwhile, if there's anyone who knows
more about this board, please post or e-mail...

-Ives
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: "robert buonincontro" <robert.buonincontro@canrem.com>
Subject: important new imagema
Reply-To: "robert buonincontro" <robert.buonincontro@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 8 Nov 92 14:06:14 EST


Tom Obszanski Writes, 

T->I wasn't aware that Commodore had announced the A1200 yet, any details
T->available?  Obviously it's AGA-based, what about the processor, RAM,
T->HD if any, expandability?

 The A1200 will be officialy announced at Comdex for the North American 
Market. As I understand it, the A1200 is already shipping in  Europe. There
are several european magazines that have reviewed the A1200. One of the 
best reviews is in Amiga Shopper. They compare the A1200 to the Atari
Falcon. 
  
 The A1200 consists of the following;
 
 Amiga 1200 (A600 style case with numeric keypad)
 68020 CPU (14 mhz CPU with 32 bit bus unlike low end Macs 2.5mips rated)
 AGA Graphics (All resolutions are supported. Same as the A4000 specs)
 PCMIA Slot   (Same Slot found in the A600)
 Trap Door    (A 32 Bit Trap Door! for that extra ram or whatever)
 2 Megs Ram   (Expandable to 18 Megs Of ram) 
 IDE Controller (Like the A600, add an internal HD!) 

 Price is 399 pounds! 
 
 Before you are anyone go knocking off the 68020 chip. Lets compare some stats
the A1200 gives better performance then a Mac Classic with an 030 or an LC
due to the 32 bit bus. The Atari Falcon comes with an 68030 16mhz. The Falcon
is rated at 3.5 mips and the A1200 is rated at 2.5 mips. Not that big of a
difference is there. Shows that chips speed isn't everything unless you have
a good design. It should be fairly inexpensive and easy to add a faster CPU
to the A1200 since it's a 32 bit machine you won't have to add costly 32 bit
ram for an accelerator.
 
 My only complaint about this system is the case. I really can't complain about
this. The A500 has sold in the millins. The A1200 comes with a lot more and
is pretty cheap compared to the price of the A600 and A500. I would like to see 
an Amiga 2000/3000 replacement. Maybe the could design an A2200 in an Amiga 3000
case. This would also allow current A3000 users to switch motherboards since
the case would be the same. I will probably pick up an A1200 while I wait for
Commodore to release a 2000 replacement.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: TMakinen
Subject: Re: HAMLab Plus ??
Organization: <none>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 15:07:53 GMT

In article <BxJvrr.F6p@dcs.ed.ac.uk> jaxh@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Jon Hanson) writes:

>Is HAMLab Plus available on public domain, of from an ftp site ?? I`m using
Warp at
>the moment, which doesn't fare to well on GIF->IFF HAM. I get a lot of
fringing since
>most of my pics are digitised.

Not public domain but shareware. I would advice you to do some digging at
almost any ftp site. At least it can be found from funic. How about wuarchive?

Teemu Makinen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: yoav@athena.mit.edu (Yoav O. Yerushalmi)
Subject: Re: XV - does it exist for the Amiga?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:36:04 GMT

Although I may misunderstand you, here we have a program titled xv which loads up
graphics and can display them in many manners on the screen. Yes, there are many
progrmas (PD and commercial) that can load up a variety of graphics formats and
display them.. If you are looking for the unique capability of putting a picture
on the background, you will have to use something like dropcloth to do it,
however. 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: juncewic@ironwood.cis.ohio-state.edu (thomas michael juncewicz)
Subject: BitPlane Swapping
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:25:00 GMT

Is it possible/legal to swap, say, the 0 and 1 bitplanes in a Bitmap?  I tried
something like:

#define rp window->RPort
.
.
.
PLANEPTR temp;

temp=rp->BitMap->Planes[0]
rp->BitMap->Planes[0]=rp->BitMap->Planes[1]
rp->BitMap->Planes[1]=temp



Now, to me, it looks like this should change the colors of anything drawn using
planes 0 and 1 (colors 1-3).  However, when it runs, nothing happens.  I 'drew'
my stuff my directly writing bytes to the bitplane, and that worked fine.  Do I
need to do something funky like tell the copper to rethink the display?  If
this is the case, then why did my direct writing to the bitplanes work?  Please
excuse my ignorance, but DO NOT hold back the technobabble :) (I learn quick)
thanx in advance..

Tom
From: tron@uni-paderborn.de (Matthias Scheler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: GIF Viewers
Date: 9 Nov 1992 13:25:47 GMT
Organization: Uni-GH Paderborn, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: berlin.uni-paderborn.de

In article <BxBzFy.HHp@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, umward10@news.cc.umanitoba.ca (Derek Ward) writes:
|> 
|>    Are there  any GIF viewers that allow you to view powerpacked GIFs?
|> 
GIF files are usually Huffman encoded. Even LhA can't compress them very well,
PowerPacker won't be able to get them 1% smaller.

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From: c60b-1fo@web-1a.berkeley.edu (George Hepker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Aladdin 4D
Date: 12 Nov 1992 18:20:53 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: web-1a.berkeley.edu

In article <BxLy3t.C5H@fc.hp.com> koren@fc.hp.com (Steve Koren) writes:
>Has anyone seen this yet?  Maybe someone who has it could post a review
>to c.s.a.reviews...?
>
>From what I have read about it, it sounds very promising.  However, it
>is somewhat expensive, which may put it beyond the range of many
>hobbyists.
>
>   - steve


Adspec is offering a $219 upgrade from another rendering package.  This bings
Aladdin 4D into my price range.  Hopefully it'll be tempting to others as
well. 

George Hepker

PS Hope Real 3D 2.0 follows a similiar policy.
From: Tom_-_Obszanski@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Important new Imagemaster released
Date: Fri,  6 Nov 92 18:43:15 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
  <68990@cup.portal.com>

>Tom,
>
>They've "pre" announced it here in the US.
>
>It's AGA, 2 meg chip, 600-style case + numeric keypad, PCMIA slot, CPU
>slot and some expansion. Looks like room for a mth copro, but not included.,
>No MMU, it's a 68EC020 running at 14 mhz - which means 16 mb of ram, max,
>period (unless maybe the CPU slot can fix that). Dunno too much more than
>that, though - might ask some Euros, as they've actually got it released
>over there.
>
>Ben


Ben,

Thanks for the reply.  Since I've posted my original question, I've been
inundated with information about the A1200 from different sources.  It
looks like it might make a good second machine for me (and of course,
unlike my A3000 it has AGA:-)

Hmm.  I know there are Ethernet interfaces on PCMCIA cards, and I can get
a network adapter for my A3000.  Wow, I might just be able to get a little
network up and running here in my second bedroom:-)

Tom
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Canon BJ-130 Printer Driver
From: 9122069g@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Tri Darkstar)
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 06:50:09 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
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[ Article crossposted from aus.computers.amiga ]
[ Author was Tri Darkstar ]
[ Posted on Sun, 8 Nov 1992 06:35:18 GMT ]


I just borrowed a Canon BJ-130 printer from a friend, but he only uses
IBM so he doesn't have an Amiga Driver for this printer.  I was
wondering if anyone could mail me a driver to use this printer, or tell
me where I could pick one up.

Thanx 
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From: blackbelt@cup.portal.com (Ben - Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Trying to find the perfect morpher
Date: Mon,  9 Nov 92 16:27:29 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
  <69043@cup.portal.com> <bobl.9640@bobsbox.rent.com>

Bob Lindabury,

Not to rain on your parade, but believe it or not, we've already had the
idea... several times, in fact. :^)

Imagemaster v10 should take care of your wants sort of automatically, because
the plan is for it to load modules from disk. So, the host is one size, and
the modules (for instance, the morph module) would be a chunk added to that...
not too much else loaded at that point.

We're working on it.

Thanks for the feedback, though - every littl ebit we hear helps.

Ben
From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: gifs :(
Date: 10 Nov 92 06:03:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Nov9.230318.1934
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

> >why can't I display 256 color gifs :(

> GIF's are great, but I do not have 600 KB of space for each picture.


No and you don't need 600k of space either.  Most 256 color GIFS are more
like half to a third that size.  Yeah, that's still a little big but
consider that most are also 1024 x 768 x 256... and that adds up to quite a
bit of space required.  Now if you really wanna snivel about space,
consider a few Targa images... they really are 600k each.  How about some
nice 24-bit IFFs?  Some of them are more than a meg in size.  JPEG helps
cut them down to size though and the display quality is very good if you
don't get carried away with the compression ratio.


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From: drool@retreat.Bah.Rochester.NY.US (Paul Coene)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Best way to view GIF images on a A3000.
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Distribution: world
Reply-To: drool@retreat.Bah.Rochester.NY.US
Organization: 
Keywords: 
Summary: 
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:43:28 EST
Organization: Not an Organization

I am disappointed at the quality of gif images, as I currently display
them on my A3000 (I'm using a utility called VirtGif, just like I did
on my A2000).

Are there better viewing programs?  Better yet, can I take advantage
of any new modes on the A3000 to get better results?  I'm pretty much
a newbie to graphics on the A3000.  Are there boards that I can buy to
improve GIF viewing?  Will other stuff work with the boards?

Thanks in advance for any and all help and comments.

										<: Drool :>

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From: Jamie_Krutz@a68k.denver.CO.US (Jamie Krutz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: 4000 ANIMS?????
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:21:46 GMT
Organization: The Arvada 68K BBS- Westminster, CO

Ottmar Roehrig writes:
>Scala Multimedia is - together with AnimLab - capable of creating
>HAM8- and 256-color-animations. One thing you should be aware of is
>that if you use ADPro for converting 24-Bit to e.g. HAM8 use "Save
>screen" not "save image". Then everything works fine.

Thanks.  So have you done this?  Can you get 30 frames per second
in HAM8 at 640/400 plus overscan resolution while flying the camera in a 3d
anim?  How about at the same resolution with fewer colors, like maybe 8 or
16 like DCTV lets the Amiga think it's using?

Inquiring minds want to know, and all that...

Later,
 -Jamie

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From: bbs.zio@tsoft.sf-bay.org (James Elkinton)
Subject: Re: Startup problems?
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 08:38:16 GMT

adap@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Edsel Adap) writes:

> In article <1d67g0INNnks@bnsgd245.bnr.co.uk> rickt@tcom.stc.co.uk (Rick Tait)
> >In article <1992Nov3.085833.16283@gserv1.dl.ac.uk>, g.coulter@daresbury.ac.u
> >|> I am relatively new to using the Amiga for programming and I have a quest
> >|> that I hope someone out there can answer for me, so here goes.
> >|> 
> 
> [stuff deleted about using runback with mackie]
> 
> >|> My question is this the correct way to do something like this or is there
> >|> way, I know it works but is it just a hack to get round something simple 
> >|> Thanks Gary.
> >
> >How about:
> >	run <NIL: >NIL: mackie
> >before the EndCLI in your startup-sequence?
> >
> 
> Sorry Rick, this isn't going to work as run doesn't detach from the CLI.
> What Gary wanted was someway of detaching mackie from the CLI so the CLI
> would close after the endcli command.  WHat you described would only run
> mackie in the background and take input from the nil device and redirect
> all output to the nil device but doesn't detach from the cli.
> 
> >-- 
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> >NMBase         Internet: rickt@bnr.co.uk | ricktait@bnr.ca | R.Tait@bnr.co.u
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Isn't that what RUNBACK is for?  Just substitute RUNBACK for RUN.  All 
good BBSes and FTP sites should have a runback available.  I depend on 
that little command constantly.


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From: mike@sarah.albany.edu (Michael Ciarfello)
Subject: Re: GIF Viewers
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 03:38:43 GMT

In article <BxBzFy.HHp@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umward10@news.cc.umanitoba.ca (Derek Ward) writes:
>
>   Are there  any GIF viewers that allow you to view powerpacked GIFs?
>
Why is the GIF picture powerpacked?  GIF is a format that is already 
compressed.  If you didn't compress it, then uncomress it and save it
in the original form.  If you did compress it, how much did it go?  1-5%??





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