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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 08:46:34 +1000
From:         Justin Ridge <justin@TASMAN.CC.UTAS.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: Tektronics printer woes

>Justin, sounds like you need MORE POWER! No seriously, it sounds like your
>printers are all running out of memory. I know the Tektronics comes with a
>bunch, but it needs every bit of it and when it runs short, maybe thats whats
>causing the B&W version to print. But, hey, CALL TEKTRONICS! Sounds like they
>should have a PPD sitting on the shelf with your name on it. The graphics are
>probably what's slowing you up. Are they scanned or drawn?

I don't think that this is the problem, because some of the documents that
refuse to print on the Tektronics also refuse to print on the IINTX, but
will work on the PLS NT, which has less memory than either of them.  Some
of the documents involve only text -- no graphic elements -- so they should
not require all too much memory anyway.

Someone has suggested that an APD exists for the Tektronics in addition to
the normal driver, but I am still following this one up.

Thanks for all the suggestions!
Justin Ridge.

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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 11:31:09 CET
From:         Angel Orteu i Palomar <UBASIR12@EBCESCA1.BITNET>
Subject:      Problems printing international characters

Hi.

I work with Pagemaker 4.0, Windows 3.0  and Netware 3.11. Also I print in
a HP LaserJet III with a postscript cartridge (Pacific Page). The printer
is connected to the server throught the serial port.  Sometimes not print
the  internationals  characters (uppercase  with  accents)  but a  moment
after, the  same page, is printed  correctly. Is a problem  of Pagemaker,
Windows, Netware, the printer or the union of all?
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From:         JDFLET01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU
Subject:      "DocWoman"s printer

Laura, take a look at the Apple LaserWriter IINTR. Getting a lot of good
reviews lately. Fast and cheap.

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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 23:26:00 CDT
From:         Reverend John <UC521832@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      PowerBooks & DTP

Question: I own an LC (6/40) and an Apple 13". I'm always running out
of hard drive space, and the lack of speed is discouraging (Quark is
near-impossible to use for that reason).

Rather than, say, buying a 33Mhz Daystar PowerCache board ($650) and
a second hard drive (say $350), I'm considering selling the LC & monitor
and putting that money towards buying a PowerBook while I'm still in
school and can get them "cheap."

So! Most of my work is word processing, with the end results going
into pagemaker. I do four-six largish DTP projects a year, at my own
pace. Has anyone done much DTP work with a PowerBook? How much of a
problem is the smaller screen? Screen refresh? Any stories to tell?
Is this a decent idea--buying, say a 4/80 140 or 170?

I really need some advice...

Rev
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Subject: Re: PowerBooks & DTP
From: Pat.Churchill@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:01:02 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <PAGEMAKR%92072623351988@INDYCMS.BITNET> Reverend John <UC521832@MIZZOU1.BITNET> writes:
> Question: I own an LC (6/40) and an Apple 13". I'm always running out
> of hard drive space, and the lack of speed is discouraging (Quark is
> near-impossible to use for that reason).
> 
> Rather than, say, buying a 33Mhz Daystar PowerCache board ($650) and
> a second hard drive (say $350), I'm considering selling the LC & monitor
> and putting that money towards buying a PowerBook while I'm still in
> school and can get them "cheap."
> 
> So! Most of my work is word processing, with the end results going
> into pagemaker. I do four-six largish DTP projects a year, at my own
> pace. Has anyone done much DTP work with a PowerBook? How much of a
> problem is the smaller screen? Screen refresh? Any stories to tell?
> Is this a decent idea--buying, say a 4/80 140 or 170?
> 
> I really need some advice...
> 
> Rev

I would HATE to try DTPing on a PowerBook.  Even with a mouse.   I'd
stick with the LC.  But a PowerBook makes a good portable hard drive.
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:58:01 -0400
From:         Elena DeFelice <defelice@A1.RELAY.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      TOC

>>If you have a alot of text on alot of pages, I strongly recommend that you
>>don't do the TOC by hand. Generate the TOC, and as Monte said, go in and
>>change the "TOC" styles sheets that PM generates. I usually only use one or
>>two "TOC" style sheets just to keep the format clean. That way you don't
>>have to count any pages, etc. (it's not worth the time and effort.)

>>Elena


>I guess I need to know what you mean by "manually". You mean just
>type it in, and not let PM generate it?


>Jim Charles
>Computer Data Systems Inc.
>Naval Surface Warfare Center


Definately let PM generate TOC automatically, then go into the style sheet
dialog box and edit the "TOC" style sheets that PM also generates. Ex:
change type size, indents, tabs, add a dot or line leader with a flush
right tab, etc. This way PM does most of the work for you. (Just remember
to check off the "inlcude in TOC" box in the style sheets for your
headings.)

This is a pet peeve of mine because I can't understand why the people at
Aldus would think that anyone would want a 48 point headline in a table of
contents. It is a bit of pain to change the style sheets but better than
typing all the entries by hand.

Hope this is clearer for you. Sounds more complicated than it is.


Elena

DeskTop Pub. Serv.
Univ Penn
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:46:38 CST
From:         Dick Kahoe <DKAHOE@CMSUVMB.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Aldus drivers to print to IIg?
              17 Jul 1992 15:52:43 GMT from <annie@CS.SWARTHMORE.EDU>

>As for the printing problem, I have managed to get PhotoGrade and FinePrint
>to work printing from Pagemaker using the 'General' driver with 4.01, but
>still can't figure it out for Freehand.

  What did it take to get PhotoGrade and FinePrint to work from the General
driver?  I tried changing the default values for the screens in the IINTX
driver to no avail.

  Inthanksadvance

    Take care,
    Dick Kahoe
    Department of Graphics  G204B
    Central Missouri State University
    Warrensburg, MO  64093
    816.543.8841
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 21:31:21 -1000
From:         "Gary A. Hartling" <hartling@HUMU.NOSC.MIL>
Subject: Re: PowerBooks & DTP
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-------
Rev,

I use a PB170 and I think it's great, but I also have 8M of RAM and
an external 400MB hard drive connected to it.  Although the screen is
a bit small for DTP and does not support greyscale, it is extremely
easy on the eyeballs and can be viewed for loooong periods of time
without eyestrain. The PB170 is about the same speed as a stock Mac CI,
so I prefer using it to my SE30 with the Radius Pivot monitor. I
recommend it with the added memory, but forget the Apple FAX/modem
that is an option. You can do better thru a third party if you need it.

Gary Hartling
NRaD Hawaii Lab
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:35:49 CDT
From:         Jeff Bone <JBONE@DOPIG.UAB.EDU>
Subject:      ACM/SIGGRAPH '92 - The original question
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TAWILSON writes...

> Huh?

My thought exactly.  Did anyone else understand the message written to
Lou?  I think this was in response to a message I posted sometime ago
that asked if there were any PageMaker Listers that were going to be at
SIGGRAPH '92 in Chicago next week.  If so, send me Email so that we can
get together and put faces with the names.



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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 08:43:00 PST
From:         "Monte B. Olsen" <olsenm@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
Subject:      Elsewhere's Full blown Checkit Version
X-To:         fran_holtsberry@MACGATE.CSUCHICO.EDU, PAGEMAKR@INDYCMS.BITNET

We just received the full CheckIt V2.02 from Elsewhere. It creates some pretty
solid reports. If you ever have to send disk files to an L300 and include font
and graphics information, this program can save you a lot of research. It's much
more complete than Aldus' reporting capability. You could, I think, simply
provide the Elsewhere report to the printer if your printer doesn't require that
you fill out a special form.

Is it a necessity? No, but what really is. It does provide a time saving
convenience that some people could find valuable.

Hope this is interesting to someone. Hope everybody has a great weekend.

Monte Olsen
Oregon State University
Corvallis, OR
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From:         Jim Charles <JIM@SAFETY.NWSCC.SEA06.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: TOC
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I guess I need to know what you mean by "manually". You mean just
type it in, and not let PM generate it?


Jim Charles
Computer Data Systems Inc.
Naval Surface Warfare Center
Crane, Indiana
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 10:43:07 EDT
From:         Pam Mc <PMCCORKL@PSUHMC.BITNET>
Subject:      Printer Problem Solution for Novell Users

Recently, when we upgraded to Novell, I could no longer print
from my Pagemaker application.  Yesterday our Novell Network
Administrator provided a solution for me.

This problem occured when using PageMaker 4.2 to print to a server
that had never sppoled jobs from an earlier version of PageMaker.
When the PageMaker 4.2 jobs were submitted to a printer, they failed to
print, and the following PostScript exception was returned:
{Error: undefined; Offending Command: AldusDict2}

ATPS returned this error to the System Log and to the ATPS screen, if
active:

ATPS: open dictionary file: no such file or directory

CAUSE: A change in the PageMaker AldusPrep dictionary causes ATPS to parse
its version and revision information incorrectly when it is downloaded
to the spooler, and the file into which ATPS saves the dictionary
is named incorrectly.  As a result, ATPS is unable to access the file
when it is time for the job to be printed.

SOLUTION:  If this problem occurs, go into the ATPS directory on the server
(the default is SYS:SYSTEM\ATPS) and rename a file named either
ALD00.PRS or AL00.PRS to ALD20955.PRS.  This will correct the problem
permanently for all ATPS spoolers on this server, unless the file
is later deleted or renamed, or the ATPS directory is changed.
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 00:48:37 EDT
From:         David.M.Tillinghast@DARTMOUTH.EDU
Subject:      Re: PowerBooks & DTP
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              <PAGEMAKR%INDYCMS.BITNET@dartcms1.Dartmouth.EDU>

--- You wrote:
 Has anyone done much DTP work with a PowerBook? How much of a
problem is the smaller screen? Screen refresh? Any stories to tell?
Is this a decent idea--buying, say a 4/80 140 or 170?
--- end of quoted material ---

I've been lurking on this list for several weeks, and finally a question I
can contribute to!


I have extensive DTP experience (editing a  daily newspaper) using PageMaker
and Word on my PB170.

I wouldn't have any other computer. We have a bunch of  IICX's with
double-page monitors running the same software, and my staff still prefers my
PB170 (the rare occasion I'll let anyone touch it). The big monitors slows
down the IICX, while the PB 170 zips along (if anything running PageMaker
could "zip").

It also allows me to port the lil' cpu around - which is invaluable in
newspaper work.

One thing, though: get more memory. 8 megabytes is a must for running a page
lay-out program along with a wordprocessor. I know PM4 has the editor module
(supposedly precluding the need for a word processor), but it just doesn't
cut it compared to Word.

Sorry, no experiece with a PB140.

Bottom line: Get the 8/80 PB170. You won't regret it - even in the face of
the costs. Sell your family if necessary.

:]
-tig
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From:         Richard Howland-Bolton
              <richard_howland-bolton@QMRELAY.MAIL.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: italics in **quark**
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        Reply to:   RE>italics in **quark**
    > Yes, I know this list is concerned with Pagemaker,
    > but I have a friend who is using the baneful,
    > horrific quark express.
    >
    > He is usin g quark express 3.1 on a mac II, 5mb,
    > system 6.07, leserwriter IINT (system 7.0 drivers).
    > when he prints symbol font it does NOT come out
    > italicized (sp?). it shows on the screen in italics,
    > but not on the paper. what gives? there was no
    > problem with this in quark 3.0.
    >  - labmg@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu

It _is_ an interesting little Quark quirk. Try setting the Type Style to
Bold-Italic and it comes out italic (and hope to god you never actually _NEED_
B-I  Symbol). I haven't really had to use Symbol so I haven't investigated it.
One might suppose that it had to do with Symbol Italic not being a real font.
It would be interesting to see if it happens on (say) a Lino where Apple's
cheepo solution to italics does not apply.
R H-B
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:25:06 BRA
From:         Amaury Bentes <PUR01001@UFRJ.BITNET>
Subject:      On Fonts...

    Although I have some DTP expertise - I have been working with Ventura
Publisher and (now almost exclusively) PageMaker 4.0 - I'm new to dealing
with and manipulating fonts. I agree it's not an easy stuff but I'm
convinced that a good knowledge of font manipulation is essential to a
DTP professional.

    I use both PageMaker and Corel Draw 2.0 and have been experimenting
with font conversion. Someone in this list has reported ATM fonts dis-
appering from the screen. I've had this problem too and the only medicine
I could use was to reinstall both ATM and the fonts again.

    Of course everything running in a computer uses memory which happens
to be a finite resource. One of my doubts is up to what extent one can
install and use a lot of fonts at the same time. I have 4 meg. of XMS
memory using a 1024 smartdrive cache. Windows itself uses a lot of this
memory. I'm not sure how many fonts I could safely use. Do you have any
idea?

   I could convert Corel .WFN fonts to Adobe Type1 .PFB but the accents
and diacritical signs like e' a' and the cedilla, and also all commas
came to both screen and printer with a very ugly diagonal line.  I
could do nothing to fix it.

   I suspect of WFNBOSS (the conversion program shipped with Corel)
that comes with Corel 2.0 version is not OK. Maybe there is some bug
in it or in the Corel fonts. Has anybody tried such a conversion
using another version of Corel Draw?

   According to Corel Draw documentation and many books teaching the
program WFNBOSS should be able to convert fonts directly to Adobe
type 1 format (for use with Windows appl.) and to generate .AFM
files which can easily be manipulated to create GEM fonts for use
with Ventura and other GEM aplications. The inverse proccess should
also be possible.

   I'd be very pleased if anyone  interested in discussing fonts
manipulation techniques could send me some mail

  Cheers.

  AMAURY DA GAMA BENTES
  RIO DE JANEIRO
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:26:44 EDT
From:         David Adams <KSU131@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Dingbats
              23 Jul 1992 14:19:44 EST from <JIM@SAFETY.NWSCC.SEA06.NAVY.MIL>

I use Dingbats every now and then for some decorative or attention-getting
purpose. Of course it would be difficult to use if you couldn't see the
characters on-screen! You *MUST* use ATM 2.02 (or later, if there is one)!
How could anyone use PM 4.0-PC without ATM? (I suppose one could use TrueType
fonts, but ... Personally, I have disabled and discarded all of my TT fonts.)
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:19:02 CST
From:         Gaynor Kybett <KYBETT@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA>
Subject:      Re: Windows 3.1
              23 Jul 1992 14:15:46 EST from <JIM@SAFETY.NWSCC.SEA06.NAVY.MIL>

You could subscribe to WIN3-L@UICVM.UIC.EDU
It's an active list so you'll get lots of mail.

Gaynor Kybett                                   kybett@max.cc.uregina.ca
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:11:01 -0400
From:         Elena DeFelice <defelice@A1.RELAY.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      No subject given

>Network Activity Report received at UK.AC.SHEFFIELD.IBM
> on Tue, 28 Jul 92 at 22:06:56 GMT

>Network Reference : 280792220638A
>Your Reference : Mail to-AL02 at UK.AC.LIV
> - Message-id=<sent Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:55:19 CDT via EARN.INDYCMS>
>Report generated by : UK.AC.SHEFFIELD.IBM

>Activity completed

>>anyone else ge this message


John,

Yes, I did and ignored it. Should I have done something about it?

Elena


DTPServ.
UPenn
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Subject: Re: I am interesting in getting some input from newsletter

test.
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 10:12:00 PDT
From:         "Monte B. Olsen" <olsenm@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
Subject:      Re: "DocWoman"s printer

Laura,
I love it when you ask questions. You're so nice about it! I agree with Jonathon
on the IINTR by Apple. You might also check MacWeek. Beware of some of the
companies in there that advertise cheap postscript printers. Their support
stinks as some on this SIG have commented.

Take it easy,

Monte
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 09:14:14 EST
From:         Jim Charles <JIM@SAFETY.NWSCC.SEA06.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      TOC
X-To:         PAGEMAKR@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU

Would anyone out there want to explain to me the best way to create a
table of contents from a book? The format I want is.....

                    CONTENTS

xxxxxxx.................1
xxxxxxx.................3
xxxxxxx.................7

When I try it, it comes out looking all misplaced on the page. HELP!!


Jim Charles
Computer Data Systems Inc.
Naval Surface Warfare Center
Crane, Indiana
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:09:02 EDT
From:         Laura Milera <DOCWOMAN@PACEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      The Best Postscript Printer

Oh happy day!  I got the official "OK" this afternoon.  The dept. is
splurging and will purchase a postscript printer and put my laserjet (the
postscript wannabe) out to pasture.

"So tell us" - they said, "What's the best product, in terms of price,
performance, etc.  Gulp! - and a blank stare was all I could muster.

So of course, I've decided to refer this question to my favorite panel
of experts.  (Yes, I promise - once I become a more proficient DTPer,
I'll do more giving and less asking).

Laura
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:50:23 CST
From:         Gaynor Kybett <KYBETT@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA>
Subject:      Harvard Draw
X-To:         PAGEMAKR@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU

Does anyone have any experience of Harvard Draw?  I have used Harvard
Graphics for years and really like it, but the Windows version has lost
some of the nice drawing features, they're apparently in Harvard Draw.
I realise that this is not a Pagemaker question, and I apologize in advance.
My only excuse is that this list is so helpful on all kinds of issues which
are in some way related to the use of Pagemaker.

Gaynor Kybett                                   kybett@max.cc.uregina.ca
University of Regina, REGINA, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:08:34 EDT
From:         Chip Denman <DENMAN@UMDC.BITNET>
Subject:      ACM/SIGGRAPH '92

Thanks, Lou.  I'm just back from Italy, so I'm seeing your message
a bit late.
Actually I didn't go to SIGGRAPH, but I sent Charles Mesztenyi last year.
I'm trying to save my pennies so I can go to some real live mathematical/
statistical meetings.
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