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From: sylvia+@cs.cmu.edu (Sylvia Berry)
Subject: Re: Y&R
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 14:39:53 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Distribution: na
Keywords: Discussion





In article <1992Apr7.192126.8721@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> pml@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (patricia.m.lott) writes:
>No one has posted an update recently, but here's a brief
>synopsis and a few remarks.
Good stuff about cars deleted
>
>Whoops!  I got sidetracked here.  Back to the synopsis.  Victor
>is trying to find out how Nikki really feels.  Is she in love with
>Jack?  Nikki says she loves Jack.  Victor asks if it's the same as
>what she had with him (Victor).  Nikki says that isn't fair.  We all
>know it isn't the same.  She talks about how loyal Jack has been; how
>he has stood by her through all of her troubles; she reminds Victor
>he divorced her.  Victor reminds her that he wanted to remarry her only
>to find she was already married to Jack.  Nikki said circumstances have
>a way of changing our lives.  Victor says we owe it to ourselves to
>find out what is happening here.  End of show.  Oh, one little thing.
>Jack is sneaking in to try to listen to what is going on.  So tune
>in on Tuesday to find out.  I'll try to update Tuesday's show if I
>have a chance to watch.  That's all I have time for now.

Let's not forget Ms. in love with Victor had an affair with Jack. My point is
if Nikki kisses Victor or something, it's no reason for him to think she 
doesn't love Jack enough to have his baby. People get mixed up all the time. At
least Jack has been faithful and would be totally devoted to his child. In a 
real world, that is good reason to give your husband a child of his own. If the
marriage breaks, Jack could have custody. (what a fight that would be, Victor
helping Nikki fight to keep Jack's child).

Enough!
Ramblin' Syl
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL-SOW tidbits
From: thompson@gumby.mgi.com
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:43:53 CDT
Organization: Management Graphics, Inc.

In article <Apr.14.12.55.59.1992.20199@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan Hagan) writes:
> lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique) writes:
> 
>>In article <28860@brahms.udel.edu> riddle@brahms.udel.edu (Tammy Laird) writes:
> 
>>In fact, I've been trying to figure out if there is any way
>>Shawn D. could be her child in real life?  Was Shawn D. 
>>adopted??  I can't remember if Hope actually was pregnant and
>>had him or not....  
> 
> No way.  SD is the natural child of Bo and Hope.  I don't remember
> if she was pregnant on the show or if they returned from their
> cruise around the world with a baby.
> 
> Remember Bo telling SD the story of taking Hope to the hospital
> and having a flat tire?
> 
Hope was pregnant on the show and did give labor to SD.  They left
Salem on there boat shortly after SD was born.  There is no way
that SD is Carly's.  Of course unless the writers rewrite everything,
it wouldn't be the first time.

My money is on Max.  Have we ever heard who is parents really are?
I remember the guy who beat him, but I don't remember if that was
his father of stepfather, and I never remember his having a mother.
Up until this Larry/Carly stuff I thought Frankie was his real 
brother.  Didn't the Brady's adopt both Frankie and Max??

mt
From: ANNE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GL: Spoilers
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:46:09 GMT
 <1992Apr16.202343.20401@midway.uchicago.edu>
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 <1992Apr17.153431.1605@midway.uchicago.edu>
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Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Apr17.153431.1605@midway.uchicago.edu>, admn@quads.uchicago.edu
(Bonnie J. Black) says:
>I still say this is unimaginative.  If I wanted unimaginative, I'd watch
>Y&R.  How many female names are there out there that they've never used?
>(Kent, would you like to answer this one?)
>--
>Bonnie J. Black (admn@midway.uchicago.edu)

Yes, it is unimaginative, but I'd rather see another Eve than a Cricket,
Courtney, Brooke, Lindsay, or Desiree.  I think GL tends to do much better
than some of the other soaps at coming up with either normal sounding
names, or odd names that have some story behind them (Harley Davidson Cooper).
I absolutely HATED the name "Maeve", and I'm not too keen on "Vanessa" or
"Nadine", but at least Vanessa seams appropriate due to her patrician
background.  I wish I knew why Fletcher was named Fletcher--it's cute but
strange.  Then, there was a time whenever I heard the name Roger, all I
could think of was our favorite GL villain.

Lee Anne
From: spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL: Some News
Date: 11 Apr 92 20:35:22 GMT
Organization: Boo!

With the exit of Al Rabin and the DOOL spinoff on hold at best, Gene    
Palumbo will be returning as DOOL's head writer.

It looks quite likely that Stephen Nichols will return to DOOL sometime in
May, though it isn't official yet.

Greg  
-- 
  spira@panix.com       "The one-O delivery to Fisk.  He swings.  Long drive,  
 cmcl2!panix!spira      left field!  If it stays fair, it's gone!  Home Run!"  
158-17 Riverside Dr.                     Ned Martin, 10/22/75   
Whitestone NY 11357          (Insert your favorite baseball moment here) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: stapleto@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Kathy Stapleton)
Subject: DOOL:TAN
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 03:43:24 GMT


I think there was a list posted earlier in order of ages of the peels
on the net? (I think they were supposed to be in order of ages
anyways.)  Even though I'm not a peel, I thought I'd throw in the
possibility that I might be one of the young ones on the net?  I'm
21......
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 00:54:34 EDT
From: <RES133@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Y&R : cars, psychics, etc!!

Well, Tuesday's show was interesting - first the Jack / Vic car incident.
   There was an item in my hometown newspaper (Pittsburgh) about the guy whose
house they used for Jack to drive around on as "the Newman ranch"  The guy was
all excited because he got his picture taken with Peter in the paper and they
were claiming "local man on soap opera."  He claimed that he ran Jack off the
road with his tractor.  Remember the farm hand on the tractor who waved?
I was expecting some major accident or something but all he did was wave.  Well
anyway, that scene was shot in Pennsylvania.
    If Molly can hold a pencil now, I'm sure she can point to letters to spell
out words.  They can just hurry up with this story already!
    The thing with Katherine was just so amusing I had to laugh.  She appears
out of no where, Jack is in a bad mood in the office and she says "Oh, Victor
and Nikki have been seeing each other and he wants her to leave you for him.
I've known them for such a long time." Please.  Like it couldn't have been an
office problem seeing as how he WAS at the office?  And gee, wouldn't have she
felt stupid had she been wrong! I suppose in soap land people are psychics
when anyone is in a bad mood.
    Victoria is back!! AAAAA!  My least of favorites!  Seeing her kiss Ryan for
5 minutes made me want to vomit!  She seems to have forgotten about the aids
test. (And for someone who "respects" her feelings on sex, Ryan certainly
brings it up a lot!)
    I bet Flo drives a Ford Pinto - a brown one that wheezes.
    Sheila's hair looked a bit better today.  Still has the big hair look
however.  She probably drives a black little zoom car.  Something that she
would be able to speed and zip around in in the dead of night to maim anyone
who got in her way.

      How about licence plates for everyone?

                Drucilla  "BOD2MOD"
                Ester     "MAID4U"
                Molly     "      "
                Sheila    "IMEVIL"

Well, that's all my creative juices for now.  Anyone else have any good
suggestions? Couldn't think of any for the guys.


                                       -B-
From: kjs@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (kelly.smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL
Keywords: a way to get rid of Icky
Date: 17 Apr 92 02:06:17 GMT
Organization: AT&T


First, I would like to apologize to all Isabella fans,
I just don't like her.

On the trip back from Switzerland (if she's there I haven't
watched in two days), the plane brakes go out and crashes
into the airport.  Icky, forgetting to ask the stewardess
for an extender for her seat belt, is hurdled into first
class causing premature labor again.  John, a bit dazed but 
unhurt thanks to his seatbelt.  Immediately looks to see how
Icky is.  Her seat is empty.  He looks down at the floor and
see one of Icky's high heels pumps (how many pregnant women
wear high heels--really).  He then hears Icky's groans and rushes
to her side.  After seeing Icky, conscious and obviously in
enormous pain, begins spouting how this was the reason she
should have stayed home.  By now the ambulances have arrived.
Icky then is rushed to the hospital and deliveres a healthly,
but small bouncing baby girl.  Icky hangs on for a few days long
enough to apologize to John for endangering the life of her child.
She dies peacefully holding John's hand.  John is heartbroken
and hides in Icky's loft clinging to her clothes and things.
Several weeks later, Marcus (who will have of course performed
the c-section) tells him the baby is well enough to go home.
John goes reluctantly and takes the child home.  Kayla offers
to help care for the child an spends most of her time trying to
lift John's spirits.  They find themselves fall for each other.
Rob, being jealous then tries to vie for her affection leading
to a John/Kayla/Rob triangle.  Rob would be the 'fun' one
John would be the intense one.

While this theory is totally impossible, I would like to see it
happen.

Kelly Jean
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: Susan Laury <slaury@copper.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: GH:  Niki/Dawn
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:46:31 -0500

In article <1992Apr03.224129.4008@mixcom.com> ccwwcc@mixcom.com (Lynn-Anne Friese) writes:
>From article <45943@dime.cs.umass.edu>, by jablonski@cs.umass.edu:
>>
>> anyway, someone mentioned that Niki and Dawn looked alike.  my question
>> is ..... which Dawn?!?!  #1, #2 or #3.......
>
>She's _supposed_ to look like Dawn #4 (Jennifer Guthrie, the last one), but
>nobody I know seems to agree, including me.
>


Well, I agree (that Niki doesn't look like dawn #4), but she looks as much
like that dawn as any of the dawns looked like each other!

Sus.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: lf01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Liz Fox)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL -- Danielle vs. Ickenstein
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:40:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.UdsUXPK00WBLI6K10Q
Organization: Office of the Dean - CFA, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


 [Vix not Lix]

Renee Wrights (sorry, I couldn't resist) :) :
 
> To the person who commented that Izzy trapped John, when was the last
> time someone got pregnant on purpose and then considered an abortion.
> Seems like a contradiction to me.
 
Twas me that said it.  I cannot tell a lie.  I have said it many a time
and the King Ickong lovers always have a hissy fit when I do.  I will
not back down either.  Your argument holds no water since she got her butt
in a sling and then decided an abortion might be OK after she realized
that Marlena might get the grand prize -- her man.  Recall, she got pregnant
the night that she got engaged -- counting chickens before they're hatched
so to speak.
 
In addition, I have never gotten the feeling she ever thought about raising
that hunk of foam rubber by herself.  Personally, I don't think she
has the backbone to do it, but then we all know I hate Count Ickula. :)
Nothing new here.
 
> I'm not saying that Izzabella has lied, but who hasn't on a soap.  In
> my opinion, there is no chemistry between John and Danielle.  Since I
 
It is your opinion and that's cool.  My opinion is that there is not
one iota of chemistry between Drake and Staci.  He is my favorite
character on the show and with her he is horrible.  This is the real reason
I hate her.  As an actress, she has the wonderful ability to take a
gorgeous, sexy, funny man and make him into a dull lifeless blob.
Deborah Moore on the other hand, is a far far far better actress than
Staci Greason whether you like like Danielle or not.  And I don't know
what show you watched on Monday (4/6), but THAT was chemistry and THAT
was the Drake I know and lust after.
 
> believe that Danielle is Romulus and she has kept that from him and we
> know that she is keeping something important from him, then I don't
> like it.  I still don't think she loves him either. 
 
That was the point of my post.
 
a) Icksheissosickening has lied at least as much as Danielle so using this
   argument to sing the praises of the monster is not the best choice.
b) I don't think the monster loves him.  She needs him.  Danielle said she
   loved him on Monday.
 
Again, you will win though.  Days is the most conservative show on daytime.
Ick is pregnant ergo, she and Drake have to get married regardless of whether
he is much more entertaining with Deborah Moore.  I think that I could drive
the Enterprise through the holes in the story of Danielle being Romulus,
but this is Days.  They do mysteries very badly so you're probably right
about that too.
 
Tim -- Now net women aren't enough for you??  You have to have Danielle too?
 
Tammy -- He called me a hag.  Oh well.  I bet one or two people would agree.
 
Spud -- Hey, hey, hey!  I have told you.  News articles, real or fake, are my
        domain.  That was a hilarious story about Carpet Remnant (good one,
        Peachy) though!
 
Vix
From: aj@CS.ORST.EDU (AJ)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC: Trevor's mysterious stranger
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:08:54 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Oregon State University


so....does anyone have any ideas about who his mysterious 
stranger is that Trevor has been talking to?  

They are really trying to hide his identitiy....

-aj
From: shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan Hagan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Monday (4/13)
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:48:06 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan Hagan) writes:

>galecristijo@bvc.edu writes:
>When Carly was telling Bo that she wondered what the baby would have been like
>if he had lived, would he have been this or that, I kept thinking:
>"Carly, if your baby, who had been born with water on the brain, had
>lived, he would have been RETARDED!  So you're LUCKY!"

Before I get flamed to kingdom come for this, let me retract it.  This was
a bad joke and in very poor taste.  I don't think that retarded people
are better off dead.  My fiance's brother is retarded and I love him
dearly and I don't think we would be better off if he had died.

Once again, I take it back.  It was cruel and mean and I am thoroughly
ashamed.

-- 
Susan R. Hagan (shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu) 
Publications Coordinator - User Services
Rutgers University Computing Services
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: daw5g@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Michael's brother)
Subject: Re: GH: Dropped storylines
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:23:49 GMT

keeneye@mist.CS.ORST.EDU  writes:
> In article <1992Apr10.141204.16260@gould.encore.com> jpenovic@encore.com writes:
> >Does it bother anyone else when the writers introduce what
> >seems like it'll be a major part of a storyline and then they
> >immediately never mention it again (though sometimes it's
> >probably for the best)?
> >
> I was really disappointed when they dropped Decker's story line.  It seemed
> really strange that no one even questioned that Decker didn't kill Dawn,
> and that Edge had done it.
> 
> I wonder if Decker is still recovering somewhere in General Hospital.

    I always thought that he had to still do time in prison for
the bootlegging ring.  On that note, how many major characters
can you think of that have been imprisoned off the show?
Blackie comes to mind, and Grant Putnam except he came back
just to get arrested again.


					Dave
--
From: bickle@mitchell.hac.com (Vanessa Bickle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: KL:Season Finale
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:49:36 GMT
Reply-To: bickle@mitchell.hac.com (Vanessa Bickle)
Distribution: na
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Company

In article <1992Apr10.050854.18328@colorado.edu>, linville@alpo.cs.colorado.edu (Ann Linville) writes:
|> 
|> Okay, maybe I can start a controversy.  First, last week, the second they
|> showed Laura's I started (I DON'T CRY OVER SOAPS!) crying, then they show
|> Greg, then Greg tells his story, I'm a mess by this time.  So I have two points
Me, too. I still can't read the children's story "Goodnight Moon" without
getting teary. Remember the episode where Greg couldn't deal with having
Meg around and Laura read that story to Meg from the video tape?

Since you brought up last week: Did anybody here catch the symbolism when
Paige walked in on Greg watching the videos. The picture over the fireplace
(which just happened to be lighted) was centered between them in the shot.
This was the picture that Paige bought Greg after Laura died and he got mad
at Paige because she took the one down that Laura bought. Eventually, we
knew Greg was getting over Laura(we thought) because he moved Laura's
painting and put up Paige's. Greg obviously hasn't redecorated in awhile.

|> 2) I don't think Greg loves Paige.  Affection, whatever, but not love.  He's 
|> never treated her as an equal the way he did Laura. 
He treated her real bad by just sleeping with her and then expecting her not
to care about him. What was the line? "I made you feel good and you made me
feel good." Then Paige called him a bastard!

|> 
|> Splitting up the company. Wonderful Wonderful Wonderful.  Did I mention I liked
|> it?  It's PERFECT.  The scenes between Claudia and Paige are already a riot.
What a great rivalry? Perhaps we'll see a little more spice now.
|> 
|> 
|> Anne preggers???????????  What a hoot.  Oh boy oh boy oh boy.
It will be interesting, although it would have been a bit more interesting
if Ann and Mac would have slept together and then they would have had to
be concerned about who the baby belonged to (just like with Paige).

I did have a fleeting idea. What if the pregnancy kit that anne was looking
at was one she had found in paige's apartment?? Just a thought.
|> 
|> 
|> Gary goes to Michigan without Val.  Hmmmmmmm.  Naaahhh.
Their relationships has been too good for too long. Can't let that happen
can we?
|> 
|> What have I forgotten.  MAJOR BRIGGS (for those Twin Peaks fans) I was hoping
|> they would do something with him.  Maybe Greg is in the woods with him. 
I don't get this. Could somebody please expound?
|> 
|> I plan to post this then see what everyone else says.
Great show.
|> 
|> I wish Greggy would call me babe.  SIGH.
Me too, Ann. Me too.

Vanessa
bickle@mitchell.hac.com
From: m1alm00@fed.frb.gov (Audrey Lee McVean)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC - my guess
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:03:48 GMT
	<1992Mar27.151400.13238@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>
	<1992Mar31.014504.29574@nicmad.uucp>
	<1992Mar31.135715.12785@unx.sas.com>
Organization: Federal Reserve Board
In-reply-to: alex@donne.unx.sas.com's message of 31 Mar 92 13:57:15 GMT


Last Sunday, March 28, I went to the Arena Stage (professional theater) to 
see a new play, Trinidad Sisters, by Mustapha Matura based on Chekhov's "the
three sisters.  The lead sister, Irene, was played by Saundra Quarterman.  I
will quote what the stage bill says about her:  Saundra Quarterman is a new 
member of Arena's resident acting company and made her debut here as Vennie in Jar The Floor.  she comes to Washington from New York where she most recetnly
appeared as Angela Hubbard on ABC's "All My Children."  Ms. Quaterman is a
graduate of the Juilliard School and was seen there in productions of
Caryl churchill's Top Girls, Maxim Gorky's Vassa Zheleznove, and George
Bernard Shaw's Heartbreak House.  She dedicates her performance to her
brother, Lynn Woods.  

	She was very good in the play.  Too bad they didn't know how use
use the side of her that we saw in the play.  

	I don't often get a chance anymore to post too often.  I've been
FFing through a lot lately.  It will be interesting to see what obscure
person killed Will.  It's too bad that we have to wait another month, i.e.,
the well 2-month wait, to find the killer.  By that time, they will have
us believing that Angelique did it or Helga maybe.  

Audrey
From: terra@reed.edu (Terra Goodnight)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC - UPDATE Monday, April 13
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:08:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Apr15.000832.21496
Distribution: na
Organization: Reed College, Portland OR

In article <kummhlINNnrq@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu> mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu (Mary E. Allison) writes:
>
>***     Trevor meets The Bad Guy** in the Park { I saw a guy that looked

>
>     After Gloria and Angelique return from their walk - Angelique
>remembers (FLASHBACK) a time when Demitri stood up for her when the
>stable boy* was telling Angelique that she only loved Demitri for his
>money.  
>
>* Supposedly the new guy in Pine Valley was to be introduced today --
>  this is the ONLY new person that was in the entire show - is
>  Demitri's old stable boy now a hot reporter that's going to come to
>  town?  hmmmm -- 

**What about the Bad Guy**???
Couldn't he be an undercover reporter trying to get a scoop on the whole
story?  That would explain why he didn't act like a hardened criminal (he
totally backed off when Trev tried to strangle him & acted content when 
Nat paid him off--which a REAL LIVE bad guy would never be.)  I vote
for the Bad Guy, and besides, he was a GREAT actor!  Not to bad looking, 
either!

Terra Goodnight
From: barbermi@hulaw1.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Y&R Baby-Switching Plot Comment #2
Date: 15 Apr 92 03:09:05 EDT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

From a First Time Poster:

I, too, am sick and tired of waiting for Lauren to find out that Sheila's baby
is actually hers.

If Victoria can age ten years in a matter of months, why can't they MOVE IT
with this story line?

Eric R. Barber-Mingo (aka Big Fuzzie)
Harvard Law School