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From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: monroe motors (was Re: where to go for yamaha service)
Date: 4 Sep 92 04:06:28 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <1992Sep3.222820.13689@novell.com>, markb@wc.novell.com (Mark S. Burnham) writes:
> For good Ducati service, you could try Munroe Motors in SF on Valencia.
> I've talked to Pat Munroe several times, and he seems to be "a real nice
> guy".  I've heard their service is very good too.

i had a bad experience with pat monroe, which i will share with y'all.
he has an ad that runs in the local paper that says "50 used bikes for
sale," so i called him up and asked him if he had any dp bikes (when i
was looking for one or two).  he said yes and described a nice-looking 
'86 xl250r for $1250, and i said "$1250? i'll come down and take a
look."  

when i got down there, he showed me a completely trashed xl, dusty
from sitting 3 deep behind some other bikes. 'twas all scraped up on
the right side with rust having settled in to the exposed parts, and a
bashed muffler. he told me how lucky i was that there was even one
single used bike like this around, seeing as they're very popular. 

i was none too impressed with the machine and when i asked about the
price being $1250, he said no, it was $1295, and accused me of trying
to get one over on him.  we danced around for a few more sentences and
then i left, pissed not that he had wasted my time with a trashed
bike, but because he played this one-price-over-the-phone-another-
price-in-person game with me. 

that is not the way to get me to buy.

see the next article for a better story.

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From: banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: BOOTS!
Date: 27 Aug 1992 00:06:15 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: ba
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Keywords: ME NEED BOOTS!


	What kind of boots do you wear and WHERE did you get them?  I dunno
about the big ass shitkicker cowboy boots.  I'm heading over to road rider
later this week to look there.  I've checked a few of the places in SC and
I wandered through the Winchester Western Wear last weekend.  WWW says that
they'll be getting in some new shipments in a week or two -- they've got a
damn lot of boots.

	Any preferences for pullon/laceon boots?  I'd hate to have my boots
fly off in a crash and let my tender tootsies get all scratched up....

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From: giamma@thun.oas.olivetti.com (Gianmaria Clerici)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: where to buy an used motorcycle
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:28:23 GMT
Reply-To: giamma@thun.oas.olivetti.com (Gianmaria Clerici)
Organization: Olivetti Research California


I'm thinking to buy an used motorcycle but I don't really know
where to look for.

Any suggestion (good dealer, SF weekly ...) ???

	thanks

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From: jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: less than 24 hours...
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:46:30
Distribution: ba


remain until I go to Cal BMW and sign what little future I have over
to BMW's financing corportation in trade for a shiny black R100R.

tick tock tick tock tick tock ...

Hm, maybe a ride is in order so that I may properly drop it in front
of a large group of people instead of all by my lonesome. :-)


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             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
           '91 CB750, soon to be replaced by a '92 R100R, DoD# 0378
      "Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads." -- R & G Are Dead
From: jackc@vermont.mips.com (Jack Choquette)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: where to go for yamaha service
Date: 2 Sep 1992 17:13:30 GMT
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: vermont.mips.com

I've been following the post on honda service but many places seem to
limit themselves to just honda.  Does anyone know where to go for 
inexpensive but good service for yamahas or motorcycles in general?

/jack
From: pmercer@apple.com (Paul Mercer)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: where to go for yamaha service
Date: 3 Sep 92 07:43:44 GMT
Followup-To: ba.motorcycles
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <la9thqINNgfh@spim.mips.com>, jackc@vermont.mips.com (Jack
Choquette) wrote:
> 
> I've been following the post on honda service but many places seem to
> limit themselves to just honda.  Does anyone know where to go for 
> inexpensive but good service for yamahas or motorcycles in general?
> 
> /jack

I second the motion.  I ride Ducati 907ie

Paul Mercer
Apple Computer, Inc.
No time for a disclaimer
From: bh@violet.berkeley.edu (Karl Wieser)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: CB750 parts/project bikes FOR SALE
Date: 28 Aug 1992 18:15:58 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu
Summary: parts parts parts
Keywords: Honda CB750 parts
Originator: bh@violet.berkeley.edu



I have for sale 2 parts/project bikes - both '78 CB750s
I'd prefer to sell them together and not spend my time
parting them out a piece at a time.

They're both incomplete, but can be parted together with a little
work to make one bike (this is what I intended to do until I ran
out of space)

both engines are in basically good shape, but there is only 1 carburator.
one engine has a black finish, the other has a clear(?)/shiny finish.

- only one seat and one partial instrument cluster
- two different style tanks
- tires are in good shape
- only one front brake caliper, and one bike has rear disc brake while
  other has rear drum brake.


asking $800/OBO for these and some misc. "parts-in-a-box"

drop me a line if you're interested, we'll arrange a time to see them.

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From: txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: misc. ramblings
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:18:19 GMT
Distribution: ba

raible@nas.nasa.gov (Eric Raible) writes:


>In article <5wcn7#a.shoun@netcom.com> shoun@netcom.com (Lissa Shoun) writes:

>   Well, I do recommend removing the wheel yourself and taking it in to
>   Road Rider or Zoom for a new tire but if you really don't want to
>   do it yourself... Go to Zoom and buy a new tire, put tire around waist
>   and ride two blocks down the street to Hole Shot Cycle, laughing
>   hysterically the whole time. Hole shot will remove wheel, mount and
>   balance. I had both tires replaced at once for $50. Zoom's prices
>                                                       ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^
>   include mounting and balancing but if you tell them you will be
>   ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^^^^
>   using Hole Shot they discount the price a bit. Zoom is in Santa Clara
>   on El Camino, east of Lawrence Expressway.

>So why not have them mount and balance them then?

>I don't get it...

Zoom will mount and balance tires/wheels, but they won't work on
bikes. This was stated in an earlier message, that you must have
missed. I use their service, and they give me great prices on tires,
partially due to the racer's discount, partially due to their good
prices. I take them the wheels, drop them off, and usually pick them
up in an hour or two. (unless I get to BSing, and then they appear at
my feet, ready to go... :{)

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From: trc@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Conroy)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BOOTS!
Keywords: ME NEED BOOTS!
Date: 31 Aug 92 22:13:52 GMT
Distribution: ba

banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn) writes:
>	What kind of boots do you wear and WHERE did you get them?

After a whole bunch of looking around and trying on, I decided that (sweeping
generalization follows) most of the motorcycle boots I saw were not what
I would consider 'top quality' or were prohibitively expensive or just looked
really goofy (I just wanted basic black). So I started checking out cowboy
boots, work boots, combat boots, etc.

Cowboy boots almost all have a smooth leather sole - I ruled these out
immediatly. Ever put your foot down in the Spoogie Spot at an intersection?
Cowboy boots can be special ordered with oil-resistant treaded soles, but
they cost a fortune - no thanks.

Work boots and combat boots, in general, were all pretty clunky and had
no personality - not for me, either.

Back to boots specifically designed for motorcycling.

They tend to have extra padding and re-inforcement in the right places - 
ankle bone, shin, shifter toe. The quality isn't really all *THAT* bad.
They are over priced, but they are servicing a fairly narrow market,
so I can even forgive that. OK, motorcycle boots it is.

Where did these companies get their model feet from? Most of them
fit *REALLY* badly. Either they made my big toe fold under the second one
or they scrunched all of my other toes together really badly and squashed
the little toe ... Normally, I'm not all that tough to fit shoes on.

OK, I'm rambling ...

I decided that the fit of the Fieldsheer 'Mistral' was pretty comfortable,
they are made in basic black (although it took me about 5 months to find
them in a 10) and the price wasn't all that bad - $95 to $119. I purchased
them at Zoom Cycle in Santa Clara on El Camino.

They turned out to be quite reasonable to wear all day - which is a good
thing since sometimes I forget to bring another pair of shoes to work.
The styling is distinctive without being really off the wall - they look
like motorcycle boots, but they don't have overtones of Mad Max or SpaceMan
Spiff.

The only reservation I have is how well the zipper in the back will hold up
in the event of a crash and slide. I hope I never know ...

Good selections of boots can be found at Zoom and at Road Rider in San Jose.

Hope this helps ...

trc

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From: dmatejka@netcom.com (Daniel Matejka)
Subject: Re: Where can I buy a good leather/aerostitch jacket
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 16:54:50 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

  Struck me Golden Gate Cycles at Van Ness and Golden Gate
(that's in the City, for you people in Cleveland...) had
a good selection.  A mite pricey.  Road Rider on Monterey Hwy
in San Jose is kind of legendary for selection and pricing.
Aerostitch doesn't have any official dealers - I think - you
pretty much _have_ to order direct from the factory.  I seem
to recall seeing one place advertising they carried them.
I guess they'd let you try them on, but they'd hiked the price 10%.

  Hey - didn't ba.motorcycles pop up out of nowhere awfully fast???
Not that I'm complaining, but those wreck.moto.harley people had
to strain over this kind of thing for weeks.
From: gnn@wsl.dec.com (George Neville-Neil)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Where can I buy a good leather/aerostitch jacket
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:48:38 GMT
Reply-To: gnn@wsl.dec.com (George Neville-Neil)
Organization: DEC Western Software Lab

In article <1992Aug26.150206.25269@tcsi.com>, vijay@phaedrus.tcs.com (Vijay Manwani) writes:
|> I am looking to buy a riding jacket (and pants) around San Francisco or Berkeley.
|> Any suggestions on
|> 
|> 1.	Where to buy one ?

In San Francisco I like Cycle Gear (2nd and Townsend) for parts,
helmets, and the like.  Their prices are pretty good and the 
sales people know their shit.  They also let you browse without
nagging you.  They had a good selection of jackets the last time
I was in (last Saturday).

I bought my heavy riding jacket at Image Leather on Market St.
but it's not just a riding jacket for me.  It was ~$400 which
might be on the high side for what you're looking for.  It's nice
because it's completely appropriate for the bike in looks and safety
and is a great all around leather jacket.

|> 2. 	What to buy ?
The thickest thing that's comfortable :-)

|> 3. 	Is it better to mail order one ?

Don't know, I've never bought stuff mail order.  I tend to patronize
good local places, but that's a personal decision.

Later,
George


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From: shoun@netcom.com (Lissa Shoun)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: misc. ramblings
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:20:26 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <qybnfjm.blave@netcom.com> blave@netcom.com 
(David W. Blevins) writes:
>
>
>Now, a question: the CBR needs a rear tire real soon now; is there a 
>reasonably priced local (south bay) resource for mounting tires?  I'd
>really prefer taking the whole bike in.  PS I'm probably going to go

Well, I do recommend removing the wheel yourself and taking it in to
Road Rider or Zoom for a new tire but if you really don't want to
do it yourself... Go to Zoom and buy a new tire, put tire around waist
and ride two blocks down the street to Hole Shot Cycle, laughing
hysterically the whole time. Hole shot will remove wheel, mount and
balance. I had both tires replaced at once for $50. Zoom's prices
include mounting and balancing but if you tell them you will be
using Hole Shot they discount the price a bit. Zoom is in Santa Clara
on El Camino, east of Lawrence Expressway.


-- 
Lissa
shoun@netcom.com     (408) 926-0812
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From: denis@apldbio.com (Denis Concordel)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Modem Cycle II BBS
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:49:02 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Applied Biosystems, Inc

For those with access to a modem, you might want to try to connect with
ModemCycle II BBS (637 9876). It's a free access BBS dedicated to 
motorcycle enthusiasts (street or dirt).

Give it a try and say hi to Roadcaptain from me.

Denis Concordel
Applied Biosystems, Inc.

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From: brad@intransit.tcs.com (Brad Whitaker)
Subject: Re: Where can I buy a good leather/aerostitch jacket
Organization: Teknekron Communications Systems Inc.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 01:20:49 GMT

In article <ramarren-260892151236@kops.apple.com>, ramarren@apple.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi) writes:

> Aerostich is only sold mail order from Rider Wearhouse.. catch their ads in
> all the magazines. They do an excellent job.

Don't hold your breath waiting for the Aerositch catalog to arrive. Mine 
showed up a good 3-4 months after I called them. (But they're faster than
Corbin - I ordered a Corbin catalog at about the same time and it's still
not here!)

Brad Whitaker  Teknekron Communication Systems, Inc.   Berkeley, CA USA
brad@tcs.com             (510)649-3815                        DoD #1000
"If the line wiggles, that's good."   Robert Pirsig           CBR  1000
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: hine@netcom.com (Graham L. Hine)
Subject: Lockheed hydraulics line
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 21:46:19 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Summary: where...
Followup-To: ba.motorcycles
Distribution: ba
Keywords: Norvin

Hi folks,
	My pop just got his hands on a NorVin (a Vincent engine in a
Manx Norton Frame) and due to some adjustments we made to the front forks
we find ourselves in need of about a six inch section of brake hydraulic
line for "Lockheed" brakes. Does anyoine know somewhere convenient
to get this?
	-Graham
(B.T.W. the Norvin is a blast to ride, and lots of fun to work on, which
is good because I am sure we will be working on it a lot.)
From: txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: was:a mission honda/yamaha testemonial, now different
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:42:34 GMT

robert@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Robert Kennedy) writes:

>bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
>> [ good stuff about Mission Honda/Yamaha ]
>>now *THAT* is the way to get me back into that store and spend my 
>>money. 

I read this, and the two posts before, and it occurs to me that there
may be no consistancy at all as to how we perceive a service center.
Bob was referred to the service folks at Mission for a used battery, 
and he's happy there. My friend Brad has been treated well at Monroe
and he's happy, where Bob feels that he was given the old bait and
switch. (I have to wonder about a dealer that would snivel over a
$45.00 difference on a $1,200.00+ price) I've had Pete at Grand Prix
dig through their stash of screws trying to find an elusive oil filter
cover screw for Beth's Exciter when there was nothing at all in it for
him. I'm happy with that and other examples that I've had with them,
hell an x-parts guy there pointed me to RAM (Harley shop) where I
found the dual disk front end that I needed for the 'Ol Sport. Meanwhile
there are disgruntled customers complaining of an oil leak two months
later. (personally if it was two days or even two weeks I might blame
them, but two weeks on a motorcycle motor can be an eternity)

I wonder if we the customers are not contributing as much to this as
the service providers are. Think about it, we're frustrated or even
pissed off at this problem that we're working on on our bike. This
problem is kicking our butt... Could this color our judgement a
little??? It's possible that the  service guy's not a skilled peopple
person in some cases, and he'd dealing with us in a situation that our
best friend could easily piss us off... I dunno, whatdaya think??



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                                    Cool as a rule, but sometimes....
Two Jousts and a Gather, *BIG fun!*            (H. Lewis)
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From: avery@netcom.com (Avery Ray Colter)
Subject: Re: Where do I buy a CBR900RR?
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 19:12:35 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

wallich@iti.org (Kenneth Wallich) writes:

>woycik@vargas.pa.dec.com (Tommy Woycik) writes:

>>So where is the best place in the Bay Area to buy
>>a CBR900RR?  The only place I've gone is Peninsula
>>Honda, and they want $8300 for one.

>>I want a reasonable price, and good service afterwards.

A reasonable price for a sport. Hehehe, yeah, I like that. :P

>first visit.  I stopped by Peninsula again, and told them what Fremont
>had offered me, and they whined about how that wasn't possible, and it
>was below invoice, and moaned about how they couldn't sell it for that
>and pay the rent(they had two of them in stock, the same two that had
>been sitting there for 2 months while I shopped around).  I drove over
>to Fremont, and bought it from them.

Fremont's techs can be a little expensive for the maintenance work
(oil changes and tune ups), but I definitely would take it there
for major insurance type work, and they are VERY good when it comes
to purchase pricing. Gary at Fremont Cycle Center even mailed me a little
postcard the week after I made the purchase - these guys seem to be hip to
little things like that, y'know?

I called around too when I was looking. I didn't even look at Peninsula,
I looked at Coed Milpitas, San Francisco, Pineapple, and Hayward, and I
think maybe Camden. Fremont got the word for the Nighthawk 250, and when
I have the resources to trade up to a NH 750, they will likely get my
money again.

>Two other stories, not my own (Bob, if you want to clarify, feel free):

>work there?  I have noticed that the Harley dealers tend to be similar
>to the BMW places, but I haven't sampled that many of them.

Well, Fremont of course is both Harley and Honda (and Kaw as well), so
I think maybe the "come in to just say Hi" culture rubs off on the
Honda and Kawasaki people there as well.

>like to have a CBR900RR, or an FJ1200, if I could justify owning *two*
>$10k bikes in addition to the the trucks.  Sigh, the plight of the
>middle class with too much leisure time, and not quite enough money

If only they REALLY INTENDED to sell the PCs for $5000...... <sigh>.
I really could go for a midsize tourer, y'know? 800 pound GLs are a little
intimidating in appearance to a 110 pound rider after all. Oh well, maybe
I'll just stick with the Nighthawk 750 and put plush seats and hard luggage
and a Windjammer with a radio tacked on somehow..... for the $5000 difference,
one could do quite a bit.

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From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BOOTS!
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:20:41 PDT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <17h69nINNs3t@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn) writes:
> 	What kind of boots do you wear and WHERE did you get them?  

(1) don't buy motodress boots.  the soles wore out on me in THREE months, 
which didn't bother me nearly as much as the attitude of both road rider
("we just sell 'em") and the mfg. rep ("do you drag your feet or what?").

(2) my boots are a collectors item: i bought them at sturgis in '90 :-)
they're a cross between cowboy's and engineer's boots, but with oil-
resistant soles instead of leather.  back & forth around time, though, 
i wear hightop sneaks.

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
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From: august@athena.mit.edu (Susan K. Raisty)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: where to go for honda service
Date: 1 Sep 92 22:01:23 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Just NEVER EVER go to Honda/Suzuki of San Mateo.  I'm in the middle of having
a dispute investigated by the Auto Bureau, and will probably be taking them
to small claims court very soon.

Latah,

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