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From: jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Furr)
Subject: Re: Urban Lemurs
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In article <Bx782t.K74@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> mkohlhaa@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (mike) writes:
>On the off chance that I should see a lemur here in Indiana, how should the
>lemur be approached?  If I offer him food and beer will he be friendly?
>Should I call the zoo?  Might he join me in a game of hacky-sack?

The lemur may surprise you by approaching _you_ before you can approach
_it_.  Chances of this happening are greatly increased should you be
carrying one of the following with you:
   1) Twinkies
   2) Big K Grape Soda
   3) Pictures of attractive lemurs of the opposite sex
   4) A ceiling light... especially the kind that hangs by a chain.

Lemurs should NOT be given beer.  Lemurs are generally mean drunks. 
They're much friendlier when they're on a sugar high. 

My Lemur friends (J. Arthur, Nigel, Rudolpho, Eddie, and the rest) are not
familiar with Hacky Sack.  Perhaps if you explained it to them?


>
>I guess I'm just wondering what type of temperment lemurs have.  Are they
>laid-back and fun-loving, or are they always on edge?
>

Lemurs are only on edge when they haven't gotten much sugar lately. 
Carries Twinkies with you at all times just in case.

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From: jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Furr)
Subject: Re: Apology to Lemurs group
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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 00:54:05 GMT

In article <Bx4MJM.5s8@willamette.edu> hakin@willamette.edu (Heather L. Akin) writes:
>> Speaking of schools of lemur thought, Vance, I guess I should mention that
>> since I'm going out of town for most of this week: to Suffolk,
>> Charlottesville, Chesterfield, and Dinwiddie, it's possible that I may
>> meet lemurs lounging around the pool at the various hotels I'll wind up
>> staying at.  If I find any, I'll let you know.  Moreover, I sent Rudolpho
>> and Nigel and J. Arthur Lemur over to your apartment to stay with you
>> while I'm gone.  Let them swing on the ceiling light and they won't give
>> you too much trouble.
>
>	By the way, leave some stuff in the refridgerator for them too.
>

Yes, good point.  They prefer Twinkies, of course, but in terms of
refrigerator goods, they do prefer their Big K Grape Cola cold, and
they'll eat cold sauerkraut just as readily as they do the room-temperture
stuff when you get it out of the can.  Plus, Lemurs love to mess around
inside refrigerators and are fond of surprises.


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From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: Man-eating lemurs
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:39:10 GMT

In article <BxC0Cp.5EH@unix.amherst.edu> hsgibbon@unix.amherst.edu (HENRY SANFORD GIBBONS) writes:
>
>
>I had a strange dream the other night, in which my girlfriend and I were in the
>middle of the Mojave Desert surrounded by giant man-eating lemurs.  I thought
>it quite remarkable at the time, so I was wondering if net-land had any 
>comments about this rather disconcerting image.

Well, you shouldn't worry unless you wake up and find that you've metamorphosed
into a large insect.

>On a different note, in choir we are singing a piece which mentions lemurs 
>along with various other more conventional monsters such as goblins, hob-
>goblins, ghouls, dryads, succubi, gorgons and so on and so forth.  What is the
>origin of the word "lemur," and does it have any sort of mythological 
>connotations

Besides the Lemures reference, there's also the hypothetical and prehistoric
continent of Lemuria that supposedly sank into the Indian Ocean except for
Madagascar.  However, plate tectonics indicate that Madagascar detached itself
from Africa, so Lemuria is now mythological.

-- Herb Huston
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From: hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.lemurs,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: The hell with Lemurs,
Date: 13 Nov 92 12:36:05 GMT
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
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bill nelson (billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com) wrote:
: hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987) writes:
: : Mr. Furr (jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
: : : 
: : : Lemmings don't really commit mass suicide.  It's an urban legend
: : : stimulated in part by a Disney wildlife movie in which the producers
: : : actually filmed lemurs diving to their deaths in the ocean -- after having
: : : been thrown into the ocean by Disney employees located just off camera. 
: : : No lie.
: : 
: : Oh, great.  Next you're going to tell me that Old Yeller wasn't really
: : sick, and they shot him just for the movie.
: 
: Shot Old Yeller? Me thinks your memory is worse than mine. 

I thought they shot him at the end because he was hurt or sick or something....
I don't recall, I thought it was the funniest movie ever, and laughed all through
it.

--

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From: jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr. Furr)
Subject: Ringtailed Lemur Babes?
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 01:38:27 GMT

What's the story about the "Ringtailed Lemur Babes From Outer Space?"  Why
do the submission guidelines for the "Furrlough" fanzine say "no lemurs"?
Newsgroups: alt.fan.lemurs,alt.folklore.urban
From: hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987)
Subject: Re: The hell with Lemurs,
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 07:23:04 GMT

Mr. Furr (jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
: 
: Lemmings don't really commit mass suicide.  It's an urban legend
: stimulated in part by a Disney wildlife movie in which the producers
: actually filmed lemurs diving to their deaths in the ocean -- after having
: been thrown into the ocean by Disney employees located just off camera. 
: No lie.

Oh, great.  Next you're going to tell me that Old Yeller wasn't really
sick, and they shot him just for the movie.

Then you'll tell me that they torched the forest that Bambi lived in just
to make a good plot complication.

Well, there goes my faith in Disney flicks.  Damn.  Thanks alot.

--

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Don't blame me; I voted for Perot!                hinzd@picard.med.ge.com 
SAAB - Because you get what you pay for.             Pherrets are Phun!!!
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From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: Man-eating lemurs
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:46:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov09.173909.16963@microsoft.com> siobhan@microsoft.com (Siobhan Harper) writes:
>                                      The lemurs of Madagascar are named
>after the Lemures, though I'm not sure who gave them that name.

Some zoologist with a classical education.  Such folks were not uncommon in
olden, i.e., pre-1960, times.

>--Siobhan, Queen of the Macaques

Are you acquainted with Imo, the Archimedes of the Macaques?

-- Herb Huston
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From: jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr. Furr)
Subject: lemur language, part II
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 07:10:12 GMT

G. Shapiro summarizes the current understanding of Lemur linguistics, as
reported in the Journal of Irreproducible Results:

frink (adj) - very appealing, sexually

frink (noun) - a National Geographic photographer

[Note: The dual usage of 'frink' stems from a confusion in Lemur society. 
The primary determinant of sexual appeal in Lemurs is size of the eyes. 
Lemurs confused the telephoto lenses of National Geographic photographers
as huge, and hence very appealing, eyes.]

ptang (verb) - to have sex with another species.  Has a positive
connotiation when the other species is also primate.  More akin to the
English 'bestiality' when the other species is non-primate.

cheep, cheep, cheep (noun) - particularly satisfying sexual experience

So let us use this knowledge to translate the following Lemur dialogue:

    1st Lemur: PTANG FRINK FRINK
    2nd Lemur: cheep, cheep, cheep

Translation:

    1st Lemur: I heard you had sex with that hot-looking National
               Geographic photographer.
    2nd Lemur: Yes.  It was great.
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From: vkochend@nyx.cs.du.edu (vance kochenderfer)
Subject: Re: Man-eating lemurs
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      I had the strangest dream last night.  I dreamed I was transformed
into a giant man-eating lemur, and I was out in the Mojave Desert, and
there were these two people there, a man and a woman, whom I did not know.
And then I ate them.

Vance Kochenderfer
Virginia Tech                     |        "You are growing tiresome."
vkochend@nyx.cs.du.edu            |                       -Dieter
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From: jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr. Furr)
Subject: Re: The hell with Lemurs,
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 12:41:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.083550.21110@mr.med.ge.com> hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987) writes:
>
>Why not lemmings?  I'm sure than any critter that commits mass-suicide would
>be good to give to those people who aren't sure if they really WANT a pet
>or not.  Of course, you'd have to get a few thousand of them, and live near
>a cliff, but that's a small sacrifice in exchange for all the rich Lemming
>droppings, which go so well on vegetables.

Lemmings don't really commit mass suicide.  It's an urban legend
stimulated in part by a Disney wildlife movie in which the producers
actually filmed lemurs diving to their deaths in the ocean -- after having
been thrown into the ocean by Disney employees located just off camera. 
No lie.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.lemurs
From: jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Furr)
Subject: Re: Man-eating lemurs
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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 10:24:01 GMT

In article <BxC0Cp.5EH@unix.amherst.edu> hsgibbon@unix.amherst.edu (HENRY SANFORD GIBBONS) writes:
>
>
>I had a strange dream the other night, in which my girlfriend and I were in the
>middle of the Mojave Desert surrounded by giant man-eating lemurs.  I thought
>it quite remarkable at the time, so I was wondering if net-land had any 
>comments about this rather disconcerting image.

It's when they get out the ketchup ya gotta start worrying.

>
>On a different note, in choir we are singing a piece which mentions lemurs 
>along with various other more conventional monsters such as goblins, hob-
>goblins, ghouls, dryads, succubi, gorgons and so on and so forth.  What is the
>origin of the word "lemur," and does it have any sort of mythological 
>connotations

"Lemure" is a Latin word for "soul of the damned."  Lemurs, staring with
their big eyes out from the jungle canopy, seemed apparation-like
themselves and thereby got that name.  Also because of their wailing cries.

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From: ann@plx.com (Ann Lindstrom)
Subject: Re: Man-eating lemurs
Keywords: n
Organization: PLEXUS Software, a division of REI
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:43:17 GMT

It is my understanding that the word lemur was derived from the latin(?) word
for ghost or spirit.  I have heard two versions of how the lemurs were so 
named.  One is that the natives of Madagascar believed that some species of
lemurs were actually the souls of departed ancestors.  The other is that when
Europeans first came to Madagascar, they were spooked by some of the nocturnal 
species of lemurs, who hung out in the trees around the campsite, eyes glowing
yellow in the dark, and making eerie cries.
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From: vkochend@nyx.cs.du.edu (vance kochenderfer)
Subject: Re: Man-eating lemurs
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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 21:48:33 GMT

In article <BxC0Cp.5EH@unix.amherst.edu> hsgibbon@unix.amherst.edu (HENRY SANFORD GIBBONS) writes:
>
>
>I had a strange dream the other night, in which my girlfriend and I were in the
>middle of the Mojave Desert surrounded by giant man-eating lemurs.  I thought
>it quite remarkable at the time, so I was wondering if net-land had any 
>comments about this rather disconcerting image.
>
     Actually, this is an indication to increase your dosage of Lithium.

     Now, if they were giant RADIOACTIVE man-eating lemurs, that would
be another story.

Vance "I'll bring the sauerkraut" Kochenderfer
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vkochend@nyx.cs.du.edu           |   good belt of Scotch"    -Nick Danger
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From: ann@plx.com (Ann Lindstrom)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.lemurs,rec.pets
Subject: Re: .  lemurs as domestic pets?
Keywords: n
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:42:38 GMT
Organization: PLEXUS Software, a division of REI

All lemurs are endangered.  I am sure they can not be legally kept as pets
without special permits.  In addition, I don't believe that there are any
private breeders out there.  You might want to look up the endangered species
act of 1976(think that is the right year).  By the way - even if it was legal -
they are not housetrainable, and defecate whenever startled.  The also need
lots of attention.
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.fan.lemurs
Date: Mon,  9 Nov 1992 16:58:57 -0500 
From: Holly Rose Larson <hl26+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: . lemurs as domestic pets?

I doubt it's legal and although I desperately want a family of them, I
think it's really wrong to take them out of their environment. (I'm
assuming here that you don't live in their habitat).

sincerely,

Holly Keep-the-wild-in-wildlife Larson

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From: sstockw1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Sarah Stockwell)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.lemurs,rec.pets
Subject: Re: .  lemurs as domestic pets?
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:53:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: cc.3MYSB82W
Organization: CC

In article <1992Nov8.214514.10242@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>,
vkochend@nyx.cs.du.edu (vance kochenderfer) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Nov7.010827.16023@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Furr) writes:
> >In article <1d9a49INNfb1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall) writes:
> >>
> >>Anyone know if it's legal to keep a lemur as a pet?
> >
> >I suspect that 1) they'd be very expensive, and 2) sufficiently exotic
> >that you'd be better off leaving them in the wild.  Most vets wouldn't
> >know much about what to do with a sick lemur, and you can't buy books
> >titled "know your lemur."
> 
> Actually, I kind of prefer _So You've Decided To Get A Lemur_.  One
> of these days, I'll get the Lexis/Nexis software, so I can answer the
> original poster's question.
> 
Kind of sounds like "So you've got a social disease," doesn't it?  We have
a document here in our (Mac-based) network called "So you've got an IBM
disk."  It's similarly ominous.
:-)

--Sarah
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From: siobhan@microsoft.com (Siobhan Harper)
Subject: Re: Man-eating lemurs
Date: 09 Nov 92 17:39:09 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <BxEx9B.D9B@access.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>>On a different note, in choir we are singing a piece which mentions lemurs 
>>along with various other more conventional monsters such as goblins, hob-
>>goblins, ghouls, dryads, succubi, gorgons and so on and so forth.  What is the
>>origin of the word "lemur," and does it have any sort of mythological 
>>connotations
>
>Besides the Lemures reference, there's also the hypothetical and prehistoric
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>continent of Lemuria that supposedly sank into the Indian Ocean except for
>Madagascar.  However, plate tectonics indicate that Madagascar detached itself
>from Africa, so Lemuria is now mythological.

This could have been explained already; Microsoft's news feed is always a
few days behind. Oh, well.

May 9 is the Roman holiday Lemuria, in which the Romans brought gifts to
the ashes of the dead to propitiate them. The Lemures are the wandering
spirits of the dead, per the Romans. The lemurs of Madagascar are named
after the Lemures, though I'm not sure who gave them that name.

Actually, certain groups in Madagascar have very powerful and intricate
links with dead ancestors; for example, the custom of famadihana, or
ritual exhumation, celebration, reshrouding, and reburial is a very im-
portant tradition in villages there. And there are ancestor spirit be-
liefs linking the people to crocodiles and other totem animals. It's really
not surprising that a link was established between the lemurs and the
ancient Roman wandering spirits.

--Siobhan, Queen of the Macaques
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From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.lemurs,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: The hell with Lemurs,
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:52:21 GMT
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA

In article <1992Nov13.024736.6838@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com
(bill nelson) writes:
>: Oh, great.  Next you're going to tell me that Old Yeller wasn't really
>: sick, and they shot him just for the movie.
>
>Shot Old Yeller? Me thinks your memory is worse than mine. 

Not only did they have to shoot a cool dog, they had to shoot him shortly
after he saved them from a rabid wolf.

That kind of thing is guaranteed to ruin your day.

   don
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From: jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr. Furr)
Subject: Re: The hell with Lemurs,
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban 
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 10:14:41 GMT

In article <14NOV92.13344523@meena.cc.uregina.ca> obrienjj@meena.cc.uregina.ca writes:
>
>  Yes indeedy - the one and only ending of "Old Yeller" has him dying of
>a gunshot wound when he contracted AIDS after sharing needles with a rabid
>wolf. Pretty sad, but then life's like that. In the politically correct
>version of "Old Yeller" (filmed in 1984 - of course - but never released)
>Old Yeller is executed by lethal injection after being found guilty of
>premeditated homicide, despite that fact that significant evidence existed
>to suggest that said homicide (or lupicide, for in fact the alleged victim
>was purported to belong to the lupine species) was actually self defence.
>The prosecution's case rested on a question of "reasonable force". The
>defence failed to address this issue. Underlying the superficial plot
>elements are the twin themes of racial tolerance and justice miscarried.
>The 1984 version was probably the most interesting version of Old Yeller
>ever attempted, but with a run-time of 26 1/2 hours was deemed to long
>for the commercial market.
>
>                                        Jeff


Please take this to alt.folklore.urban and out of alt.fan.lemurs.  It
doesn't belong there.
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.lemurs,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: The hell with Lemurs,
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:47:36 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA

hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987) writes:
: Mr. Furr (jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
: : 
: : Lemmings don't really commit mass suicide.  It's an urban legend
: : stimulated in part by a Disney wildlife movie in which the producers
: : actually filmed lemurs diving to their deaths in the ocean -- after having
: : been thrown into the ocean by Disney employees located just off camera. 
: : No lie.
: 
: Oh, great.  Next you're going to tell me that Old Yeller wasn't really
: sick, and they shot him just for the movie.

Shot Old Yeller? Me thinks your memory is worse than mine. 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.lemurs
From: jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr. Furr)
Subject: lemur language, part I
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 07:03:39 GMT

This is a discussion between several experts in the Lemur field on the
subject of Lemur language.

G. Shapiro:  "So what kind of sounds do lemurs make?  Given their
appearance, I would guess a kind of whimper, but my source says they go
"Whooooooo!  Whooooooo!"  (I think she made it up)"

T. McDonald:  "Seriously now, I know what sound a cow makes.  I know what
sound a frog makes.  What sound does a lemur make?"

C. Karluk:  "boink?"

J. Furr:  "I've always pictured it as "cheep cheep.""

J. Cook:  "The sound a lemur makes... "frink!""

J. Furr:  ""frink!"?  Did you get that from an encyclopedia?"

J. Cook:  "yea."

R. Davis, coming in late and answering original question:  "The same sound
any other lemur would make."

C. Karluk, getting back to this "frink" thing:  "And what kind of sound,
exactly, is "frink"???  What sound is it similar to?"

T. Monaghan: "Well, "freenk", "fraenk", and "frynk" are close with
"froenk" and "ptang" nearby."

J. Cook:  "I think "frink" is kind of a high pitched squeak with a DEFINITE
K at the end.  "ptang" is the Lemur battle cry."

J. Winter: "squonk."

T. McDonald:  "I wasn't aware that Lemur lips could form the "p" sound."

J. Cook:  "Well, it's a real primitive sounding "p" sound."

V. Kochenderfer:  "Moooooo!  Oops, wait a minute, wrong discussion."


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