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From: acs_bell@uwrf.edu (Jill Belscamper)
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
Subject: Vegan chocolate chip cookies.
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:35:18 GMT
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Vegan chocolate chip cookies
----------------------------
adapted from The Pillsbury Cookbook.
* Of course some of the ingredients in here can very likely contain animal 
  products so please don't forget to read the labels and make sure they are 
  truly vegan (if that's what you want - if not then bake on ;)

Heat oven to 375 degrees.

3/4 cup firmly packed brown sugare
1/2 cup sugar
1/2 cup vegan margarine, softened 
1-3 tablespoons vegetable oil
1 1/2 teaspoons vanilla
1/4 cup soy milk
1 3/4 cups flour
1 teaspoon baking soda
1/2 teaspoon salt
6oz. (1 cup) vegan choc. chips or carob chips.

In large bowl, beat brown sugar, sugar, margarine and 1 tablespoon oil until 
light and fluffy (if the mixture is too dry, add more oil).  Add vanilla and 
soy milk; beat well.  Add flour, baking soda, and salt; mix well.  If the 
dough still seems too dry, add some more oil and mix well.  

Stir in chocolate chips (add nuts of your choice if you like those).  Drop by 
teaspoonfuls onto ungreased cookie sheet.  Bake for 8-10 min or until light 
golden brown.  cool 1 min; remove from cookies sheets.  Eat. :) 

This recipe says it makes 4 dozen cookies, but after both I and my husband get 
ahold of the dough and I make extra large cookies, there's enough for 2 dozen
left. :) 

Jill
From: kayt@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Kayt Sorhaindo)
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
Subject: Faux Leather?
Date: 11 Jan 1993 22:16:59 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: alderaan.stanford.edu


Hi,

I noticed a discussion earlier on faux fur, and was wondering if anyone  
knew of a (non-animal) material similar to leather (not vinyl!). Or a  
store that would sell accessories with such a material?

I'm now trying to remove leather from my wardrobe, so any leads would be  
appreciated...

Kayt
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
From: michael@resonex.com (Michael Bryan)
Subject: Re: Gay cats?  The final solution!
Organization: Resonex Inc., Sunnyvale CA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:25:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan05.212728.18940@eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
>Any cat that rejects fresh fish and other meat because it instead prefers a
>vegetarian diet is abnormal, or at least its behavior defies the cat
>stereotype.
>
>Vegetarian cats have no need for predatory instincts, and since they 
>never attack, stalk, or hunt, one might speculate they are less skilled
>at using their claws and teeth. (They are wimps.)
>
>It therefore follows that a vegetarian cat *might* be at a disadvantage to
>a meat-eating cat in a fight.

All fine so far.  Whether or not vegetarian cats exist is unimportant
to me, and I don't have any feelings one way or another, but your
statements are perfectly acceptable.

>So the next time I see a cat eating vegetables in a garden, which will
>probably be never, I'm going to say that cat is an "impotent, gay, wimp."

But here you cross the line into bad taste.  And then you show your
insensitivity again with:

>If those among you who are gay can't deal with it, then that's your own
>damn problem because it's silly to be hypothesizing vegetarian cats in the
>first place, which was my whole point.

Whether or not it's silly to hypothesize vegetarian cats is
irrelevant.  What's wrong with your post is throwing in "gay" as a
negative image, along with impotent and wimp.  Replace "gay" with
"nigger/negro/black" or "feminine" or "jewish" or any number of other
minority groups.  Perhaps they don't fit as well for *your* purposes,
because they don't have the same stereotypical connotations that
you're trying to invoke, but the reality is that they have the same
level of untruthfulness and bigoted hatefulness as your choice, and
there is no real difference in that regard.  Grow up.

-- 
Michael Bryan     michael@resonex.com
-- 
Michael Bryan     michael@resonex.com
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
From: altar@beaufort.sfu.ca (Ted Wayn Altar)
Subject: Re: Vitamin D from sunshine
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 09:09:44 GMT

11
Ted Altar wrote:
>>>    Ordinary electric lights have a very limited spectrum of
>>>light, but full-spectrum lightening attempts to reproduce
	  				           ^^^^^^^^^

>>>sunlight as closely as possible, but of course not exactly nor
>>>nearly as intense.  [...]

Clarification:  "reproduce" here did not refer to "how" the light is
produced but that it's spectrum pattern of the relative
energy proportions of visible and not so visible wavelengths, 
is reproduced as closely as possible by artificial full-spectrum
lighting.  No commercially available artifical lighting has
replicated the pattern exactly.
s
While misreading abounds, I'm glad to see that humour is
not dead on the net.  :-)

					ted

Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
From: jereese@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (jean reese)
Subject: Re: Soy milk
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:05:01 GMT

In article <1iahquINN6cc@life.ai.mit.edu> jaj@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Jill A. Johnson) writes:
>
>
>Well I bought some rice dream vanilla flavor and it tastes awful to drink it.
>Maybe I still remember too much what real milk tastes like.  I don't have to 
>have something that tastes exactly like milk but I'd like it to taste 
>good (i'm more picky than the averate cat. 
>

You really should try "Better than Milk," because it is what it says
it is. (However, the light version isn't as good, but the chocolate
one is excellent!) Try it, try it, try it!!!


Jean


-- 
	"It is my view that the  vegetarian manner  of living by its 
	purely physical effect on the  human temperament  would most 
	beneficially influence the lot of mankind." - Albert Einstein
	++++++++++++++++jereese@silver.ucs.indiana.edu+++++++++++++++
From: pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
Subject: Re: Comfort foods for colds
Date: 7 Jan 1993 16:52:21 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
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Originator: pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <1993Jan2.032900.1604@voodoo.ca.boeing.com>, 
das@emmapeel.ca.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz) writes:
> Happy New Year, everyone.  I'm celebrating by having a whopping cold.
> So, does anyone have a good vegetarian equivalent for Mom's chicken
> soup?  Also, what do y'all like to eat when you're feeling rotten?

Surely garlic soup would be much better than chicken soup. 
You could start with water or with some sort of broth, peel a bulb
or two of garlic, simmer the cloves until the garlic is soft, then mush the
garlic into the broth, using a blender if you're into smooth textures.
For calories, you might put some diced potatoes into the water or broth 
about ten minutes before adding the garlic, and cook the whole thing until 
they're soft. Add salt if you eat salt (I do).

I like spicy food when I have a cold, and I would zing up this soup
by crushing in a clove or two of raw garlic and adding a few dashes
of Tabasco sauce, just before serving.

The anti-cold effects of vitamin C have been debunked too thoroughly
for it to work very well as a placebo for me. I don't think anybody's
bothered to do the same thing with garlic, yet, however, so it still
makes a fine anti-viral placebo for me.

Paula Burch
pburch@bcm.tmc.edu
From: georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
Subject: Re: Gay cats?  The final solution!
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:27:28 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

Any cat that rejects fresh fish and other meat because it instead prefers a
vegetarian diet is abnormal, or at least its behavior defies the cat
stereotype.

Vegetarian cats have no need for predatory instincts, and since they 
never attack, stalk, or hunt, one might speculate they are less skilled
at using their claws and teeth. (They are wimps.)

It therefore follows that a vegetarian cat *might* be at a disadvantage to
a meat-eating cat in a fight.

So the next time I see a cat eating vegetables in a garden, which will
probably be never, I'm going to say that cat is an "impotent, gay, wimp."

If those among you who are gay can't deal with it, then that's your own
damn problem because it's silly to be hypothesizing vegetarian cats in the
first place, which was my whole point.
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
From: cpr4k@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Christian P. Roberts)
Subject: Re: comments and questions
Organization: Academic Computing Center - U.Va.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:10:26 GMT

altar@beaufort.sfu.ca (Ted Wayn Altar) writes:

>>    GETTING FILES OF GREAT VEGETARIAN RECIPES FROM GRANOLA

>>There is databank of many recipes from something call GRANOLA.
>>To get these recipes simply use your regular e-mail mailer and
>>send to: LISTSERV@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU the following command:

>Apparently, the address has of recent been changed to:
>          LISTSERV@VTM2.CC.VT.EDU

>Alternatively, if you don't use or have an e-mail mailer
>system, you can use the following FTP address, assuming that
>your system has FTP access:

>          128.173.5.164

Has anyone been able to get through to this address?  I can connect
but cannot log in.  It does not seem to accept anonymous ftp.

-- 

Chris Roberts                     ITC/Academic Computing Center
cpr4k@virginia.edu                University of Virginia           
(804) 982-4693                    Charlottesville, Virginia 22903
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
From: bslandry@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Bruno S. Landry)
Subject: Questions
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 02:48:01 GMT

Hi!

My girlfriend and I have recently switched to a vegetarian diet.
We've been reading rec.food.veg for a few months but still have a 
few unanswered (basic) questions:

Since we have to change the water in tofu every day or so, does
that mean that any food (not cooked) prepared using tofu will only keep
a day or so in the fridge?

We've seen kosher cheeses which include "microbial enzymes".  What is
this stuff?  Vegetarian?

One more...  Are pinto beans and romano beans the same?

Thanks!

Bruno & Brigitte
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
From: djordan@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (David Jordan)
Subject: Re: Vitamin B Supplement?
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:28:39 GMT

Cary,

I take a B-complex once a MONTH - just in case.

Regards, 
David.

: In article <1993Jan6.135955.28963@cabell.vcu.edu> cjenson@cabell.vcu.edu (Cary E. Jenson) writes:
: >
: >Dear Friends,
: >
: >I've been an ovo-lacto (sp?) vegetarian for several years and am in
: >excellent health. However, I recently read an excellent book about
: >the impact of nutrition on cognition. The author was very balanced
: >and even handed about vegetarianism but did make the point that V.s
: >should take a B supplement.  I'm curious to know what you all think.
: >How many take supplements? What kind? Is there any reason to pay for
: >expensive name brands like Solar or Schiff when health food store
: >brands are much less expensive?
: >
: 
: Cary,
: 
: I suspect I'm not unlike a lot of r.f.v. readers: I'm just too busy to
: eat right every day, so I supplement. I've never tried to do without,
: so I don't know what (if any) impact supplementing has on my overall
: health. I would greatly appreciate knowing the title and author of
: the book you mention - I'd like to read it!
: 
: 
: >Thanks
: >
: >Cary
: 
: Cheers,
: Claudia
: 
-- 
David Jordan                               djordan@spartan.ac.BrockU.ca
From: schiles@valentine.us.oracle.com (Suzanne Chiles)
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
Subject: Re: Gay cats?  The final solution!
Date: 7 Jan 93 00:03:26 GMT
Reply-To: schiles@us.oracle.com
Organization: Oracle Corporation
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1993Jan6.055652.22153@informix.com>, proberts@informix.com
(Paul Roberts) writes:
|>In article <1993Jan5.182513.9780@resonex.com> michael@resonex.com
(Michael Bryan) writes:
|>>In article <1993Jan05.212728.18940@eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu
(George B. Clark) writes:
|>>>probably be never, I'm going to say that cat is an "impotent, gay, wimp."
|>>
|>>irrelevant.  What's wrong with your post is throwing in "gay" as a
|>>negative image, along with impotent and wimp.  Replace "gay" with
|>>"nigger/negro/black" or "feminine" or "jewish" or any number of other
|>>minority groups. 
|>
|>What surprises me is that anybody cares about the fact that GBC sees
|>fit to use "gay" as a term of insult. If he had said "black", "feminine",
|>or "jewish" I wonder if there would have been a flurry of messages
|>about it?

Well, I'm a gay female and I care a great deal that the word "gay" is
used as an insult.

I would also imagine that any of the other terms used in a negative
manner, would elicit a similar response.  

We can only cure bigotry and hatred by confronting it.
             
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Suzanne Chiles         Honor Diversity            schiles@us.oracle.com
415-506-6194                                         Oracle Corporation
                   Hate is not a family value
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Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
From: eerbl@cc.newcastle.edu.au
Subject: Re: Raw Potatoes (Was: WHO & Iron - Have They Gone Mad?)
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 11:25:33 GMT

> In article <C0D66K.9wu@dircon.co.uk> uad1214@dircon.co.uk (Peter Cox) writes:
>>
>>I just caught part of an interview on BBC World Service
>>with Dr. Barbara Underwood of the WHO (World Health
>>Organisation).  She was making some pretty wild claims
>>about vegetarians being deficient in iron.  At one point,
>>the interviewer asked her what vegetarians should do about
>>it. Part of her answer included the advice to eat RAW
>>potatoes!!!

Hey! I love RAW Potatoes. (seriously)  Dosen't everyone? :)


- Russel
From: lake@cwjcc.INS.CWRU.Edu (Dr. Robin Lake)
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
Subject: Re: Wanted: London, England Vegetarian/Vegan restaurants
Date: 11 Jan 1993 16:10:26 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve Univ. Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Reply-To: lake@po.CWRU.Edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: cwjcc.ins.cwru.edu

In article <199301071542.AA25465@prep.ai.mit.edu> botteron@ai.mit.edu writes:
>I'm visting London, England in a week and would like a list of vegan
>and vegetarian restaurants, as well as natural food grocery stores, in
>London.
>
>Please e-mail suggestions to me, and I'll summarize if there is enough
>interest.
>
>-Carol
>


There is a veggie restaurant guide for the UK.  It is the size/shape of
the Michelin guides (tall).

In addition, there are a number of Indian and Pacific Rim ethnic restaurants
which serve veggie meals.

While serving meat as well as veggies, Plumbers, about a block from Covent
Garden (toward the African Center  --  which also has veggies) does an
excellent natural food meal.  In Richmond, at the foot of Sheen Road (or
what turns into Sheen Road, just behind the "market" area) is a veggie
restaurant.

Rob Lake
BP Research
lake@rcwcl1.dnet.bp.com
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
From: michael@resonex.com (Michael Bryan)
Subject: Re: Gay cats? *Great*! (was "vegetarian cats2...", I think)
Organization: Resonex Inc., Sunnyvale CA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 09:57:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan05.144716.11676@eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
>In article <C0Ds83.EEJ@world.std.com> rik@world.std.com (Rik Ahlberg) writes:
>>AND IT PISSES ME OFF TO SEE INTELIGENT (?) PEOPLE MAKE STUPID
>>ANTI-GAY COMMENTS ON THE NET. Maybe the cat's an inpotents, _happy_
>>wimp? I dunno, but I don't think that was the author's intent.
>
>Rik, you idiot. Maybe the damn cat would like a taste of meat instead of
>vegetables. Obviously, that was the author's intent, especially since
>the topic is vegetarian cats. 

Oh, nice flame.  Really wonderful.  Please purchase a clue.  Rik's
complaint is about the bigotry in the original post, not whether or
not cats should have meat.  The original author was way out of line
by equating "gay" with "impotent" and "wimp".

>>PLEASE KEEP YOUR BIGOTRY TO YOURSELF.
>
>Please restrict your promotion of the gay lifestyle to bit.listserv.gaynet.
>It has no place in rec.food.veg.

Oh please.  As long as idiots like the original poster and you see fit
to voice bigotry in a post, you can expect to get flamed about it.  A
lot of people are fed up with seeing people promote the gay stereotype
of a limp-wristed sexual pervert, and such comments can expect to be met
with protests, regardless of where they occur.  There's a difference
between promoting the gay lifestyle and defending it.

I'll repeat Rik's comment for you:  PLEASE KEEP YOUR BIGOTRY TO YOURSELF.

-- 
Michael Bryan     michael@resonex.com
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
From: sfjr@wam.umd.edu (Steve Russell)
Subject: Observations Of The All Too STD Flame War
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:27:16 GMT
From: scottk@cs.umd.edu (Scott King Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
Subject: Meatless Entrees for Carnivores
Date: 9 Jan 93 00:23:45 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742


    I have been reading here for a while, but I have yet to get any good
ideas for my particular problem.  The short version is, I am trying to save
my Dad's life.  In slightly more words, I am trying to find low or preferably
non-meat things that my dad can eat.  
    A little over a month ago, my dad had a REPEAT quadruple bypass.  His
previous one was about 10 years ago.  He is also a diabetic.  From the reading
I have been doing, I have determined that neither what he is eating, nor
even what he has been directed to eat, really will manage the changes that
he is looking for.

    The question is less about what he SHOULD Be eating, and more 
"What can I make him that he WILL eat?"  He is relatively open to new
ideas, but he is stuck in a rut.  I need some things that will entice
him out of the rut.

    Myself, I have been reducing the amount of meat that I eat, but am not
yet ready to go pure vegetarian.  Perhaps after I have more things that
I can make, I will be able to make that step.  My first step was to decide
that I wasn't going to have more than one "meat-centered" meal a day.  I
defined that to be slab of dead animal with little things on the side.
Compared to the changes that other people here have made, that seems 
insignificant, but it is a start at least.

    Oh, and here is Clover's comment that got me to speak up about this.f

In article <1993Jan5.063644.7401@sarah.albany.edu> la1002@albnyvms.bitnet 
writes:
>Both are hard-core meat and potatoes, 50's style people - He hunts, she
>serves chex-mix.
> 
>Clover

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Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
From: freshair@iastate.edu (James W Gregory)
Subject: looking for good bean spread recipes
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:51:06 GMT

The title says it all.  Preferably low/non-fat and vegan.  Should be
a good sandwich or bagel spread.  Thanx in advance.

-Jim
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From: gph@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (G. Paul Houtz)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 03:17:34 GMT
Subject: Re: Let them eat grass!
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg

warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison) writes:
>
>Wacky indeed.
>
>
>The vegetarian premise to which I subscribe says that humans should
>not eat meat because of the suffering and indignity is inflicts upon
>the animal.
>

  Agreed.

  The vegetarian premise to which I subscribe says that humans should
  not eat meat because it is unnecessary to their diet and it inflicts
  harm upon the natural environment.   Step lightly upon the earth.

  Preservation of the habitat that allows lions to eat their prey is
  of the utmost importance.   A lion does not exist without the habitat
  that supports it.
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
From: artemis@netcom.com (Michelle Dick)
Subject: Re: Soy margarine gripe
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:46:06 GMT

I doubt you'll get anywhere with Bread and Circus.  They keep their
own politics.  You won't find cornstarch there either.

--
Michelle Dick
artemis@netcom.com
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
From: la1002@albnyvms.bitnet (Clover M.)
Subject: Re: Re VEGAN: Then don't include honey. 
Reply-To: la1002@albnyvms.bitnet
Organization: University of NY at Albany
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 23:47:16 GMT

Everywhere that I have seen definitions of "VEGAN" said that some vegans
avoid honey while others eat it.  And I don't see why it wouldn't be
vegetarian, at all. 

Clover
la1002@albnyvms.bitnet
This is my very first sig.file

Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
From: tracy@telesoft.com (Tracy E. Childs @pulsar)
Subject: Re: Question about asthma
Organization: TeleSoft, San Diego, CA, USA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:07:06 GMT

Well, this is sort of bad news because I would love to say that
a veggie diet is a cure for everything, but I've been a vegetarian
for 15 years and mostly vegan for 1 1/2 years and I still have
asthma.  I get it almost exclusively from cat dander, so you can
betcha that I don't care much about vegetarian diets for cats!  I
try to steer as clear from them as I can!  The asthma might be
a little better since I've (mostly) dropped the dairy and eggs but
I usually don't hang around the cat long enough to find out.  Once
my breathing starts to get constricted, I try to get out of the
cat's house.  This is a major pain and I feel sorry for your 
nephew because I remember several problems staying over at friend's
houses, etc.  One time I think I had to call my parents in the 
middle of the night to come get me!

Anyway, I'll be interested in other responses because if veganism
is the trick this may be the incentive I need to become a better
label reader than I am now.

-- Tracy