From: crisp@netcom.com (Richard Crisp)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.clinton,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Demo Gun Control & just who were the vigilantes in L.A.?
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:33:29 GMT
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In article <1992Aug17.140431.7598@interlan.Interlan.COM> urbin@interlan.Interlan.COM (Mark Urbin) writes:
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>In article <1992Aug11.214304.12559@s1.gov> lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug11.163946.14614@oakhill.sps.mot.com> pjm@anegada.sps.mot.com (Patrick J. McGuinness) writes:
>>>The positive vision is hope, opportunity, and greater choice and freedom
>>>in our lives, and a reduction in the central power of Government.
>>	Does that include law enforcement and the military?
>>	Shall it all be done by vigilantes?
>   The only vigilantes present in L.A. were the rioters taking `justice' into
>their own hands when they felt the court system had let them down.  The rioters
>sought out people to punish after the crime was commited.  Personally I don't
>see what Korean-American merchants had to do with four L.A. cops beating up on
>Rodney King.
>  Once the riots started, police were ordered out of the area.  Citizens left
>without police protection had to fend for themselves.  These people were NOT
>vigilantes.  They were citizens defending themselves from a crime in progress.
>
>>
>>	And before you flay me on being a hypocrite on gun control, I
>>do not believe in banning guns. Just in having a nationwide system of
>>gun permits and essentially instant checks on the validity of one when
>>one purchases guns or ammo. The system would be computerized and
>>denials of permits would be open to challenge (to help take care of
>>bureaucratic snafus). The system would be very much like driver's
>>licenses, which no one calls a threat to freedom. Or is it? :-)
>-- 


I think it is: Here is what happens when you legislate nationwide gun
registration:

1) you do not reduce crime

2) you have an excellent set of records to be used to confiscate
   weapons when Bill Clinton declares himself "President For Life"
   and has the backing of his "National Police Force" (the Gestapo).

Registration has time and again been used for confiscation. Why do 
we need to register guns? Do we want to collect taxes on them? What
purpose is served that is in our interest by registering all guns?
What is wrong with registering criminals instead? How about registering
Liberals? How about registering Socialists?



-- 
Richard Crisp         Cupertino, Ca.         crisp@netcom.com
(415) 903-3832 wk  "The Demos have to go!"   (408) 253 4541 fax

"The first thing you have to do is disarm the people. A disarmed
public can't fight back" -Adolf Hitler

It is interesting that the so called enlightened Democrats
seem to espouse the same tactics of Hitler: disarm the
public, create a national police force, and enlist the aid of  
the media propaganda machine to make all believe that the country
must take drastic measures to correct the so called sins of the
prior regime. Those that follow will be as culpable as the 
brownshirts and Hitler Youth.

Very Dangerous Times Indeed!
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