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From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston)
Subject: Re: WWF Mag, September Issue
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 04:58:35 GMT

ccjames@cybaswan.UUCP (j hussell) writes:

>Cover picture this month is Papa Shango, the african voodoo practisioner.  He

African?  I thought voodoo was Haitian in origin.  Thats what The Serpent
and The Rainbow said.  All the WWF superstars had better watch out, or
maybe Shango will animate dead famous wrestlers of the past.  An army of
wrestling zombies;  brrr, the blood runs cold just thinking about it.

> I'll be posting a letter or two from this month's 'Fan Forum' soon.

Have they printed any of your letters yet?

>Mr. Perfect writes this month's 'Brainstorms' in the absence of Bobby Heenan.
>Apparently, Heenan is out of town on financial business.  All Perfect can talk
>about is himself and Ric Flair.  I think these two are a little *too* close to
>be just friends!!  Work it out .....

Out of town on financial business?  He should buy a portable computer!  Oh
well, at least they got Hennig to write the column.  Is he as arrogant
writing as he is speaking?  Don't imply anything about Hennig and Flair,
though.  Flair is a real stud, and has never shown interest in other
men on the wrestling shows.  Except interest in beating the spit out of
them.

>The curse of Shango seems set to be quashed by the Ultimate Warrior, as he's
>seeking help and advice from a GOOD voodoo priest.

Many people have suggested that UW seek professional help, and it's good
to hear that he has.

>We have a profile of Nailz, his upbringing and his life as a detainee in quite
>a few detention centres.  The beating that Nailz gave the Big Boss Man, is also
>featured in this article.

You would think that Jack Tunney would be too concerned about his wrestlers
than to let a hardened, habitual criminal into the WWF.  This guy could
hurt somebody!  I just hope the Bossman takes care of him before it's
too late!

>'Private Eye' focuses on Tatanka.  The native warrior gets under the limelight.

Does Tatanka hate the white folks for putting his people on reservations
and such?  I hope he never gets mad and starts scalping people!

>Ric Flair's 'Viewpoint' pinpoints on the upset of Nature Boy not having the 
>title shot.  The Ultimate Warrior and Randy Savage both take a beating from
>Flair.  I would say blame the manager for not getting the chance .....

Here you're wrong.  Bobby the Brain has often complained that Tunney
plays favorites in terms of who does/doesn't get title shots.  Flair
deserves every title shot that comes up in the WWF.

>WWF Crossword has a mistake.  See if you can spot it .....

A mistake?  Maybe it's just some revisionist history, something new that
we all have to learn...


Tom
From: eccd552@ut-emx.uucp (Katsuhiko Kawai)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Muhammed Ali vs ?
Date: 13 Sep 92 20:45:54 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin; Austin, Texas

In article <1992Sep11.074454.21739@nuscc.nus.sg> art30248@nusunix3.nus.sg (NG LING LING) writes:
>awalsh@mta.ca (Andrew Walsh) writes:
>: Quick, someone tell me who Ali wrestled/boxed a long time ago.
>: I believe it was a japanese wrestler.
>:
>...Ali wasted a main event card against ANTONIO INOKI (can't remember
>when) but it was so boring cos' Ali stayed away from Inoki and Inoki was
>on the mat waiting to snare Ali.
>
>absolute waste of time. don't bother to look for it. 

It has been more than 17 years since I saw Inoki vs. Ali.  Since I was 11 
years old then, I do not remember what exactly happened in the match. 
Although "marks" like me may not understand the meaning and importance 
of this match, many wrestling, boxing and karate specialists in Japan 
describes it as one of the most exciting match they have ever seen. 

Let me cite Dave Meltzer, What can we learn from the success of pro
wrestling in Japan that is adaptable to the United States? in Observer, 9/1,

"Not credibility within the general public, because that's never going to
happen. But credibility within the potentially huge audience of wrestling
fans when fans are ALLOWED to believe by not having their intelligence
insulted by what the promoters are serving."

Believe or not, we Japanese wrestling fans have wanted the credibility of
pro wrestling with the public for a long time, and it dates from
Inoki vs. Ali, which we have mentioned. This may be the biggest difference
between the Japanese fans and the American fans, and I believe it has 
most affected the wrestling style in Japan. Who wins or who loses is still 
the most important factor in the "competition." 

Antonio Inoki aka Kanji Inoki is now a politician. Rumor has it  that he is 
still paying back the debt of the match.  

Katz.
 

 


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From: fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp)
Subject: WWF latest craze
Keywords: Jeopardy boards
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 16:20:18 GMT

  Just to help anyone who doesn't watch Superstars or Challenge, the WWF
has set of several screens that form one big screen right above the entrance
for the wrestlers.  The screen displays the "image" of the wrestler (the
Britch Flag for Davey Boy, Hitman glasses for Bret, etc).  As soon as the
wrestler enters, it changes to actually filmed footage (live, if you will)
of te wrestler walking to the ring.  That way, if the wrestler says something to
the camera, everyone in the arena can see it on the screen.  They also 
probable show a replay or something like they do in baseball stadiums with
such equipment (example, the MetroDome).

  The incident this weekend between the Natural Disasters and Money Inc.
played on this idea.  ND just finished their jobber matchand are waling back to
the dressing room.  Behind the curtains, Money Inc. are waiting (Dibiase with
a chair & IRS with his briefcase) to ambush them.  Unfortunately, the tv
is filming them waiting in ambush. This footage gets shown on the screens.
Before ND get through the curtains, they look up at the screen and see that
Money Inc. are waiting.  So they charge in anyways, but are prepared.  Nothing
happens, just a staredown.

  Just to try and clear up things on the latest WWF gimmick.
 

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From: oliver@Software.Mitel.COM (Oliver Postlethwaite)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Steiners (was Re: CoC Results
Date: 12 Sep 92 00:16:24 GMT
Organization: Cosmic Monsters Inc.

Ok, so the Steiners aren't gods. They are still good and in terms of
North American wrestling, very good. They have been participants in two
of the best matches I've seen from 1992, vs. Sting/Muta and vs. Fujinami/Izuka
(excuse spelling errors and yes I know there were tons of better matches
in Japan this year that I haven't seen...). A lot of people on this 
newsgroup seem to forget that most of us are only exposed to WCW and WWF
on a regular basis. Just think how bad the Steiners would be if they
jumped to WWF. They'd be in heaven, tting paid lots of money to do no
work whatsoever. WCW's tag team situation looks grim with the Steiners
possibly leaving and supposedly Eaton/Anderson definitely gone soon.
Imagine if they bring back the Patriots to challenge Williams/Gordy...
 
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From: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan)
Subject: Re: Flair, Hogan, WWF, NWA
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC
Organization: University of Fairbanks, Alaska...no wait, that's not right...
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:24:00 GMT

In article <2393.137.uupcb@ssr.com>, dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) writes...
> 
>  >the wrestler of the 90's for the WWF, and the next Hulk Hogan, wil
>  >be none other than Lex Luger.
> 
>Again, I disagree.  Keep in mind that by the time Luger is able wrestle,
>when his contract expires in March of next year, he will be 34 years
>old.  People are saying Hogan is old at 38.

And bear in mind the fact that Luger is the exact same type of
attraction that Hogan is.  Wouldn't you think that fans would develop
the impression that Luger is simply a cut-rate imitation and scream "We
Want Hogan" all throughout his matches?

>BW>Also, keep in mind that if Hogan ever does have his true retirement match,
>  >he will probably want to beat the only man he's ever been pinned by: UW.
> 
>In the WWF alone, he was also pinned by Andre, albeit unfairly.

Uh, I'm assuming that "BW" stands for Brian Wawczak?  If so, I can
understand your Bill Apter-influenced view of wrestling history here. 
In Hogan's first WWF stint (1979-81), he was pinned by Andre, Tony
Atlas, Bob Backlund and others.  In Japan, he was pinned by Antonio
Inoki, Stan Hansen, Dusty Rhodes, Backlund and others as well.  And
should we even consider the countless jobs Hogan did everywhere else 
before he got a swelled head and stopped jobbing for anyone?

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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Asking marks
Date: 15 Sep 92 11:07:35 GMT
Organization: Carleton University

In <193gudINNsp@maggie.cs.widener.edu> andra@cs.widener.edu (Robert Andracsek) writes:


> >Is Davey Boy Smith *really* Bret Hart's brother-in-law? (See, I
> >figured marks are so confused by all the junk fed to them, they may
> >not believe the actual truth for once...ignoring, of course, that Bret
> >Hart WON the I-C title from this *other* brother-in-law, Curt Hennig)
>                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>Whoah!  Forgive the ignorance, but I had no idea these two were
>related...  how many relatives does this man (Brett) have in
>wrestling!?!  We're talking bro's-in-law, direct relatives, etc...

Read the wrestling relations FAQ-like file the next time its posted,
and find out this and all sorts of other Really Useful Information! <tm>
He's got something like 7 brothers, and enough sisters that they
married: Davey Boy, Curt Hennig, Ben Bassarab, and Jim Neidhart.

Michael
From: robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Andersons (WAS: How many UWs?)
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:32:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Sep12.024551.14411@physics.ucla.edu>, John Price writes:

> In article <visser.716242782@convex.convex.com>, visser@convex.com (Lance Visse:
>>       ...Rick and 
>>       Ole anderson are cousins and the andersons are all brothers.

> Hmm.  How can Rick and Ole Anderson be both cousins *and* brothers?

>         Just another statement of confusion from the Johnster.

I think the guy means *Ric* (as in Flair) and Ole Anderson--they used
to try to pass themselves off as cousins during one of the incarnations 
of the Four Horsemen (tm), if not even more prior to that...

As for the Andersons being all brothers, I know Lance really knew that's
not true, but with the exception of Ole and Gene, no one else has 
laid claim to being an Anderson "brother"; Arn pretends to be Ole's
"cousin" and Brad has been referred to as a Ole's "nephew" even though I
don't think he's ever rassled in WCW...

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From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston)
Subject: questions Re: Lightning Kid
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 20:09:20 GMT


I was home one afternoon last week and turned on the TV out of boredom.
On ESPN, I saw the end of a match between Lightning Kid and someone
called the Condor.  The promotion was apparently the NAWA (North
American Wrestling Alliance, I think.)

Can anyone tell me whether this was recent or older material?  Lightning
Kid was very impressive.  I don't see him ever getting a push in the
WWF since he looked relatively small, but he could work really well in
the WCW if rumors posted here about him entering it are true.  To be
honest, considering the high quality of his work in the match I saw,
I would like him to stay right where he is now, and continue with
more of the same.  Assuming ESPN continues to show his matches, of
course.

His opponent, the Condor, didn't do much.  He had the physique of
someone who either works out a lot, or takes plenty of Hulk Hogan
'vitamins'.  But the match was still really enjoyable.  Lightning
Kid would hit him with some nasty-looking kicks, he sold the moves
pretty well, and his size advantage made it a believable (as
pro-wrestling goes) match.

Tom
From: Scott.Simpson@f904.n250.z1.fidonet.org (Scott Simpson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Wrestling #4
Date: 31 Aug 92 22:10:20 GMT


(** NOTE: In order to read this article properly, you must be
familiar with the characters.  Any questions can be addressed to
me... Tx. **)

Even More Wrestling Experiences

written up by Scooter (aka Scott Simpson)

August 26, 1992
Midland, Ontario, 7pm.

Well, this could be my last show <sniff>.  I'm off to university
next week and won't be close to the action.  Oh well.  Let's make
the best of it.

Going to work on tonight's show was a last-minute decision.  My dad
drove me up to Midland, and we arrived at about 5 minutes to seven.
There was a long line-up at the snack bar.  In the arena I noticed
there were four or five rows of ringside seats, filled.  There were
non-ringside (what should I call them?) seats on only one half of
the building, but they were nearly full as well.  It looked like a
pretty big crowd, the biggest I'd seen so far for Midget Mania/Teen
Pro.  As soon as one of Donny's brothers saw me, I was rushed off
to the dressing room.  I handed the camera (no video tonight, as
I'd run out of tapes) to my dad and followed someone to the
dressing room.

I was surprised to find Little Mr. T, who was supposedly no longer
with the show.

I found out that Little Farmer Pete had a broken shoulder and would
be out until November or February.  One of Donny's friends (a
really short guy, though not a midget) who has no ring training at
all was brought in to replace Pete in the battle royal.  Me and
some of the midgets were showing him the one move he'd use: a
forearm.  He got paid $20 for about a minute in the ring.

I didn't referee any matches.  I almost did.  Little John Adams was
introduced and Donny & I were by the entrance wondering who'd ref
this match.  Neither of us knew who John was wrestling with
tonight, since his regular opponent, Farmer Pete, was out.  It
turned out Tiger Jackson worked the extra match.  We still didn't
know who was refereeing, so we both started to approach the ring,
then Donny took the initiative and said "I'll take care of it" and
went to the ring to referee.

The matches all went well.  We had the Teen Pro demonstration with
myself and Donny, with Phil Watson of course.  We did the lockup,
then I took Donny over with a headlock and nearly crushed him.
Heh.  Then Phil suplexed Donny and a family in the crowd yelled
"Now do that to Scooter!"  I pointed this out to Phil and he
decided "Now we'll kill Scooter" to please the crowd.  He nailed me
with a big elbow off the ropes and I took an amazing bump (bow,
thank you, thank you).  Phil also did his double dropkick and I
took another terrific bump.

Not a terrifically eventful night.  I signed my first autograph as
a Teen Pro Wrestler for some kid in the audience.  We had a lot of
kids interested in signing up.  I haven't seen the photos yet, but
they'll probably be pretty good.

Oh well.  That's all for now.

          >> SDSimpson  [ ... Scooter ]
          scott.simpson@f904.n250.z1.fidonet.org
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From: rtcst3+@pitt.edu (Robert   T Conticello)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: [WCW] H. Havoc '92
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:30:53 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <9209072328.AA01946@sun3a.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM> ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com (Otto Heuer #3) writes:
>
>I could only make out parts of 10 of the 12 items on the wheel for
>WCW's "Spin the Wheel--Make the Deal" wheel:
>
>Texas Death Match
>Coal Miner's Glove
>Russian Chain Match
>I Quit
>Barbed Wire
>Prince of Darkness
>Lumberjack Match
>Cage

 Dog Collar Match
 First Blood Match
 Texas Bullrope Match
 Viewers Choice (?)

>
>One could psossibly be "surprise match".  I think Jim Ross said
>something about that.  I suppose one could be a hair match.  I probably
>could have made out all 12 if I had had the foresight to tape the 
>Clash in Super-VHS... might have to do that this coming Wednesday for
>the re-broadcast.
>
>I doubt very much if we'll get to see a barbed wire match--though I
>definitely would make that my number one choice.  Much more likely
>is something boring like a lumberjack match or a cage match.
>
>		--Otto "Cactus Hack" Heuer

 Rob C.
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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Its Official!
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:31:26 GMT

I would suppose that Ric Flair's win over Randy Savage is now
official, considering on Regis and Kathie Lee he came on with the
belt and they showed the title-winning pinfall.

So...is Vince gonna show that this week on Superstars, or are we going
to have to wait another week after that?

Mike
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From: isbell@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Andy Isbell)
Subject: Re: Asking marks
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:15:30 GMT

tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston) writes:
>evan@flatiron (Evan L. Marcus [Fusion Systems Group, Ltd.]) writes:

>>Knowing what we all know about the WWF, what sorts of things would you like
>>to ask a sincere 100% WWF mark?  I don't mean this in a mocking way, but
>>rather to see how these things are rationalized.

>Why do the Bushwhackers lick each other?

Tastes Great!!!       Less Filling!!!

(sorry, I just had to do it)


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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: Asking marks
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 01:35:43 GMT

In <1992Sep14.205517.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu> 11mwarner@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:

>In article <21891.9209141446@flatiron.fsg.com>, evan@flatiron (Evan L. Marcus [Fusion Systems Group, Ltd.]) writes:
> 
>> Any other thoughts?

>-- Why do you like Hacksaw Jim Duggan?
>--  "  "   "   "   Sgt. Slaughter?
>--  "  "   "   "   The Bushwhackers?
>-- Is Ric Flair's hair really a wig?  (A mark asked me that once)
>-- Why isn't Mr. Perfect wrestling anymore?
>-- How did that black blood-like substance get on UW's face?
>-- How did Papa Shango set the jobber's boots on fire?

Are the Berverly's really brothers?

Is Davey Boy Smith *really* Bret Hart's brother-in-law? (See, I
figured marks are so confused by all the junk fed to them, they may
not believe the actual truth for once...ignoring, of course, that Bret
Hart WON the I-C title from this *other* brother-in-law, Curt Hennig)

Is Gene really mean? :)

Michael

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From: jfoy@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Jeff Foy)
Subject: Re: Shane Douglas in WCW
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 20:03:16 GMT

In <BuJ0B2.J42@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp) writes:

>  Ricky Steamboat defeated Vinne Vegas to retain the TV title by a roll up.  

WHOA! When did arm-Drag-on win the title? I've not heard a thing about in
on the syndies (not having cable, though, I could've missed it).

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From: fout@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (David Fout - RMS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Who is the Comet Kid???
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:45:14 GMT
Reply-To: fout@achilles.gsfc.nasa.gov
Organization: RMS



 Who is the Comet Kid???

David
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From: Mark Byrne <M.Byrne@compserv.utas.edu.au>
Subject: Re: WWF Mag, September Issue
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6D3D06068011329@mpg5-41.compserv.utas.edu.au>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 9 Sep 92 22:01:36 GMT
Organization: Uni. of Tasmania at Launceston
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 06:36:50 GMT


>In article <994@cybaswan.UUCP> j hussell, ccjames@cybaswan.UUCP writes:
>
>The 40 man Battle Royal has a place in this months issue.  Tatanka
coming out
>the victor, beating I.R.S. and the Beverly's in the end.  
             ^^^^^^^                          ^^^^^^^^^^
             Tatanka sounds a bit HOMO to me [ Another childish Comment
8^)  ]


Anyway   one question   WHY??? waste time copying this dribble on to
R.S.P-W.

Results are OK but to copy an entire article ?????
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From: ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com (Otto Heuer #3)
Subject: WWF champ
To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Posted-Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 21: 13:39 CDT
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 02:13:39 GMT
Received-Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 21: 13:42 CDT


I noticed that the WWF was quick enough to get clips of SlumberScam 
to the TV shows it puts out in just over a week (and said that 
Randy still had the title).  After seeing that, I was a little bit
surprised that they didn't say anything about Flair beating him a few
days later.

Maybe they want something to use as "big news" to get the humanoids to
tune in for next week's program.

Or maybe, since it hasn't been shown on TV yet--IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!!  :-)

		--Otto "Hack Hogan" Heuer

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From: shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum)
Subject: Re: WWF Magazine (Sept. Issue)
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 00:55:51 GMT

In article <993@cybaswan.UUCP> ccjames@pyr.swan.ac.uk (j hussell) writes:
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