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From: discar@nosc.mil (Joe Discar)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Re: Winfax bugs - what to replace it with
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:19:28 GMT
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego

In article <Bw2I8p.CrI@nynashamn.telesoft.se> staffan@nynashamn.telesoft.se (Staffan K-E Ungsgard) writes:
>rick@digibd.com (Rick Richardson) writes:
>: jpp@StarConn.com (John Pettitt) writes:
>: 
>: >Winfax seems to have a protocol bug when talking to some brands of fax
>: >machine that causes transmission to stop after the header page.    This
>: >is destination dependent (i.e. all faxes to the offending destination
>: >fail and the failing faxes can be sent to other destinations with no
>: >problem).   As has been noted before tech support for WinFax is
>: >non-existant so I am looking for suggestions for a good fax package to
>: >replace it with.  Hardware is a Dell 3/20 notebook with a Dell fax
>: >modem, running dos 5 & windows 3.1.
>: 
>: I guess my advice would be to try a different brand of modem with
>: WinFax, before giving up on it.
>: 
>
>I've had the exact same experience with both a Wellcon modem and a Supra.
>Both are v42Bis modems. Both fails most of the times when connected to 
>one of the faxmachines at work (Swedish Telecom model 530), but works just
>fine to my fathers fax (a Panasonic Panafax). Both fax machines work fine
>when it comes to sending and transmitting to other faxmachines. So what John
>Pettitt suggests above is in line with what I have seen too.

I too became dissatisfied with the performance of Winfax.  It started
because I sold my original faxmodem expecting the arrival of a new\
USR DS w/ FAX.  It came four weeks later than I expected--and my invoices
were very delinquent.  Imagine my ire when I found that Winfax wouldn't
work with it--after several calls to USR (who suggested an init string)
and Delrina (who suggested waiting a week for a patch), I threw up my
hands and bought Intel's Faxability.  I've been a happy faxer ever
since.

-> Joe <-

My opinions.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: anto@dutetvd.tudelft.nl (Anto Daryanto)
Subject: Fax in OS/2 2.0...
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 08:13:56 GMT

Hi fax-fans, I know this is old, but I read recently in this newsgroup
someone writes about how he can manage to get FaxIt for Windows (?) 
under OS/2 2.0 works. 

Can anybody post it for me, or mail me at a.daryanto@dutetvd.et.tudelft.nl.

Thanks in advance,
--
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Delft University of Technology	     | **   Happy user of OS/2 2.0.    **
Faculty of Electrical Engineering    | **********************************
Telecommunication- and Traffic-Control Systems Group
e-mail: a.daryanto@dutetvd.et.tudelft.nl     
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.graphics,alt.binaries.pictures.utilities,comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: deej@cds8613.Cadence.COM (Jim Howard)
Subject: Re: Looking for gif/tiff/pcx/fax/.... converter
Keywords: image converter
Reply-To: deej@cds8613.Cadence.COM (Jim Howard)
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:15:46 GMT

In article <19nvgdINNkgm@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>, varouj@garp.East.Sun.COM (Var Garapetian, Sun-BOS Hardware. 508-671-0298) writes:
|> I'm looking for one or more programs to let me convert an image
|> from one format to another. I would prefer ms-win or dos progs,
|> but unix or sun-os is fine too (public domain or shareware).
|> The formats I'm interested in are:
|> 	fax format (generated by winfax-pro)
|> 	pcx, pic, bmp, gif
|> 	tiff (so many versions... is there a most common one?)
|> 	postscript (I doubt I'll get this one :-))
|> 	jpeg and any others are a plus ;-)
|> 
|> Please email me the responses and I'll summarize in a week
|> or so.
|> 
|> Thanks much, Var.
|> ==========================================================================
|> Varoujan Garapetian,   Sun Microsystems, East-Coast Div.=
|> UUCP:                  {hplabs,ihnp4,ucbvax,decvax,seismo}!sun!vgarapetian
|>                        {decvax}!eagle_snax!garp!var
|> INTERNET:              vgarapetian@East.Sun.Com
|> ==========================================================================

    The FAQ already talks about the PBMPlus tools suite.  It handles nearly
all the formats you mention above.  The only thing it doesn't do is BMP 
format (I've heard there are dozens of BMP formats), and it doesn't do JPEG.
BUT, once you get the IJG's JPEG software and add it to your PBMPlus
suite, you get that too!
    I'm very interested in comparing your summary with the information
that's already in the FAQ...

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: roma@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Roma)
Subject: Re: Netfax and Everex 24/96E
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:02:55 GMT

root@systemy.sublink.org (Davide Yachaya) writes:

>I have received some suggestions to try the new
>Netfax release 3.2.1. 

>The point is that during the parsing of the commands from the modem,
>"faxspool" says there is an error parsing "OK".

>Any ideas ?

The problem is that the modem generates occasional text responses in spite of
being set in numeric response mode.   The software doesn't expect this and
treats it as an error.

When I was playing with NetFax 3.2.1, I hacked a fix for this problem.  It's
reproduced in the context diff below.

*** 1.1 1992/07/15 14:53:39
--- response.c  1992/07/15 19:29:33
***************
*** 234,240 ****
--- 234,250 ----
                if (strncmp(reply, "CONNECT", 7) == 0)
                  state = RESPONSE_CONNECT;
                else
+                 {
+                 if (strncmp(reply, "OK", 2) == 0)
+                       {
+                       f -> result = 0;
+                       state = RESPONSE_DONE;
+                       log(L_INFO, "numeric response code (fake): %d",
+                           f->result);
+                       break;
+                       }
                  parse_text_response(f, reply);
+                 }
            } else
              *reply_ptr++ = c;
            break;
-- 
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Computing and Communications Services Office,
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Internet:  roma@uiuc.edu      	UUCP:      uunet!uiucuxc!uiuc.edu!roma
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: iskandar@nynexst.com (Sam Iskandar)
Subject: OCR Systems
Reply-To: iskandar@nynexst.com
Organization: NYNEX Science & Technology, Inc
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 14:05:03 GMT


Hi,

I am setting up a Fax server on my network, the sending part is great, but the
receiving part is not so convenient. Since received faxes are in Fax format (bitmaps),
there is no way to be able to tell from a fax's header which person it's supposed to
go to, since the entire fax is one image. I would like to have a setup that can
recognize a predefined header in a received fax, and forward it, through e-mail
to the appropriate person. Does anyone know of a reasonably priced OCR system that
can do that for me. The fax is running on a Unix Sun network.

Thanks for any info.

Sam
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: meuser@ipc1.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (Heinz-Friedrich Meuser)
Subject: Netfax and ZyXEL on SPARC2
Organization: IPI, University of Hannover
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 08:25:04 GMT

Has anybody ever tried to get a ZyXEL1496E running with netfax3.2.1 on a
SPARCStation2 ? I tried, and it didn't work.
Since I have to fix this problem ,I have some questions:
1. Is my fax-problem related to the software or the modem-setup ?
2. Are there any patches available in the net ?
3. Is there any software (maybe a modified getty) available to determine if 
an incoming call is a data- or fax-call ?

Any hints appreciated

--

    Heinz-Friedrich Meuser (meuser@ipi.uni-hannover.de)
    Institut fuer Photogrammetrie und Ingenieurvermessungen
    Universitaet Hannover       

    						     
    
    
    
    
    
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From: varouj@garp.East.Sun.COM
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.graphics,alt.binaries.pictures.utilities,comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Summary:Looking for gif/tiff/pcx/fax/.... converter
Date: 9 Oct 1992 20:39:55 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Reply-To: varouj@garp.East.Sun.COM (Var Garapetian, Sun-BOS Hardware. 508-671-0298)
NNTP-Posting-Host: garp.east.sun.com


 || From: deej@cds8613.Cadence.COM (Jim Howard)
 || Subject: Re: Looking for gif/tiff/pcx/fax/.... converter
 || Message-ID: <1992Oct8.181546.10345@Cadence.COM>
 || . . . . . . .
 ||     I'm very interested in comparing your summary with the information
 || that's already in the FAQ...
 || 

Well, after the first couple of responses, directing me to the FAQs in
pictures archives and so on, I figured my question was pretty common
one and didn't think is worth a summary. So I only sent a thank-you note
to the first dozen or so people. But... I should have kept my
promise ... So, a little late, but here is my summary :-)

	- Look in "alt.graphics.pixutils" FAQ or get it from
	  the archives. The 2 FAQs had lots of useful info
	- Try the following:
		wuarchive.wustl.edu:
			/usenet/comp.binaries.ibm.pc/volume15/pbmplus
			pub/pc/msdos/win3	pspro101.zip (paint shop pro)
			pub/pc/msdos/win3	winjp150.zip (winjpeg)
			msdos/graphics/grfwk*.zip	(Graphic WorkShop)
			msdos/graphics/alch*.zip	(Alchemy)
		export.lcs.mit.edu:
			/pub/contrib/pbmplus*.tar.Z
			/pub/contrib/ImageMagick.tar.Z

As for what I was looking for... I was indeed looking for something
to run on Sun or PC. I tried Alchemy, but was absolutely useless,
since I couldn't use it for any of the images I had (larger than
640x480). PBMplus was good on my Sun, though I would agree that
it needs some boost on its doc/friendliness area, but... great
package for doing what I wanted. On my 486, I was a bit put off
to find after unzipping and all, that it needs some kind of
dos extender to run in 32-bit...Oh Well... 
I liked ImageMagick the most for Suns.
As for PCs I tried GraphicWorkshop. Looks good, I may still
decide to go ahead and register it, but I think I'll stick
with my Sun and ImageMagick for now (better monitor :-))

Again, Thanks for ALL replies and helpful suggestions.

Var.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: wrnewman@muug.mb.ca (Bill Newman)
Subject: Re: Remote FAXing for FREE?
Organization: Manitoba Unix User Group, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Distribution: comp.dcom.fax
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 05:56:05 GMT

In <1992Oct5.220917.14723@bert.eecs.uic.edu> kenyon@bert.eecs.uic.edu (Robert Kenyon) writes:
>Is there a FAX service through the internet where one could send a
>fax message by E-Mail to a fax server in another part of the country or 
>the world and have it FAXed to a local fax machine where 
>the server is located?  

This is a question that I have been wondering about too.  Of course,
anyone with a FAX modem could recieve mail from you and pass it on to
any FAX machine in their local calling area at no cost and with minimal
effort.  That's all it would take to be the FAX service you describe.

The University here has a FAX gateway that does this automatically if
you mail something to it which contains a few FAX headers (such as
"FAXnumber: nnn-nnnn").  It was installed with the local population
in mind but in effect it is a world-wide inbound FAX port for
Winnipeg.  When I asked, they acknowledged that it could be used
this way but they will shut out non-local calls if the traffic gets
too heavy.  (So I won't advertise the details here.)

My interest is in communicating with a couple of friends travelling
in Europe.  They occasionally get near FAX machines and it would be
nice if I could use a FAX gateway at a nearby friendly internet node
to send notes to them.  Unfortunately I believe that free local
calls are rare in Europe so this is not a likely possibilty.  Anyone
out there know otherwise?

This is all getting very nickel/dime anyway.  When I get my faxmodem
I'll be able to send a page or two anywhere in North America for
less than the price of postage.  And to Europe it will only be a
little over a dollar.

>Bob Kenyon
>kenyon@bert.eecs.uic.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: cvessey@upei.ca (Chris R. Vessey)
Subject: Re: DIR/ALL
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:01:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.191201.400@lrc.edu> tice_ja@lrc.edu writes:

>               ::: HELP!! :::

>I'm using a mac IIsi and a Zoom 2400bps send/fax modem.  The problem is that
>I can't successfully send any faxes.  The error I keep getting is:
>               ** Failure to Train **
>I'm using QuickLink Fax II software and no luck so far.  Any suggesstions?
>                       Thanks!   Jeff Tice (Tice_Ja@LRC.edu)
>                                 Lenoir-Rhyne College
>                                 Hickory, NC
>                                 

I'm not a Mac user, but here's my best guess, for what it's worth:

Your software is attempting to configure (train) the modem.  This is 
necessary to set it up for FAX communications (as opposed to its standard 
mode of communications, ordinary computer-to-computer data exchange at 2400 
bps).  What is happening is that your software "feels" that the modem is not 
capable of handling fax transmissions.  There are three types of modem that 
I'm immediately aware of:  Class 1, Class 2, and WorldPort.  I am not sure 
what the difference between Class 1 and Class 2 is, but I do know that a 
colleague had to order an update to a software package to use his Class 1; 
mine is Class 2.  Check to be sure that your software is aware of/capable of 
communicating with the type of modem that you have.

As an alternative, make sure you were actually SHIPPED a FAX-capable modem 
(sure it's far-fetched, but hey, stranger things have happened in this 
world).

Sorry I can't be of more assistance - good luck.

						Chris


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From: root@systemy.sublink.org (Davide Yachaya)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Netfax and Everex 24/96E
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:50:54 GMT
Organization: Systemy - Pavia, ITALY


Is it possibile to find the patches for "Netfax rel 3.2"
to work with an Everex modem 24/96E ?

Any advice is appreciated.

Davide

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From: tj@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Terry Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Re: PC & Mac LAN Fax
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:16:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: gpu.Bw4Ir5.47p
Organization: UTCS Public Access

In article <craigb-141092105645@craigb.uark.edu> craigb@craigb.uark.edu (Craig A. Brown) writes:
>Our Purchasing Section is considering purchase of another stand alone FAX. 
>Most of their additional FAX documents will be created from word
>processors.  They have a mix of MS-DOS machines and Macintoshes; all with
>access to a Novell file server.
>
>Do any of you have any experience with an sharable FAX devices in such an
>environment?  Thanks in advance for any information.


You might consider on of the new printer/fax solutions from Compaq or NEC.
Both companies offer printers that accept optional fax modules that allow them
to send documents as fax and receive and print incoming fax documents.
I gather they have WIndows and Mac drivers but I haven't tried these
devices myself so I can't say for sure.

tj
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modems
From: hsiaoe@rs6305.ecs.rpi.edu (Eric Hsiao)
Subject: Re: Class 2.0 finally passes!!
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:48:14 GMT

In article <ndpsq48xt@tmsoft> mshiels@TMSoftware.Ca (Michael A. Shiels) writes:
>
>I have followed the class2 interface since early 1989 when I got my first
>draft of the command set and now that it is finally a "TRUE" standard
>maybe we can see a bit of consistancy from the hardware vendors.  Have any
>-- 
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>
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>MaS Network Software and Consulting         | mshiels@tmsoftware.ca

Anyone know if US Robotics will be offering a free upgrade to this new
Class 2 standard?

Also, in regards to Blastfax, does anyone else out there have problems
with the incorrect date being printed on the coverpage?  I have disk
version 1.2 (something like that...or was it 1.02).
             - Eric
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: tiger@netcom.com (Tiger Zhao)
Subject: Re: Winfax bugs - what to replace it with
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 03:03:17 GMT

jpp@StarConn.com (John Pettitt) writes:


>Winfax seems to have a protocol bug when talking to some brands of fax
>machine that causes transmission to stop after the header page.    This
>is destination dependent (i.e. all faxes to the offending destination
>fail and the failing faxes can be sent to other destinations with no
>problem).   As has been noted before tech support for WinFax is
>non-existant so I am looking for suggestions for a good fax package to
>replace it with.  Hardware is a Dell 3/20 notebook with a Dell fax
>modem, running dos 5 & windows 3.1.



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>Archer N81034					apple!starnet!jpp
>Me, say that, never: It's a forged posting!	Fax:   +1 415 967 8682
>						Voice: +1 415 967 UNIX

I have experienced the same problem, Winfax often hangs if you have a 
fax cover page, and it hangs on 11% of that page. I am also looking
for a good fax package with a Window DDE capability to replace Winfax.
(Running on 386DX-40MHz with Zoltrix 9624 modem). Any suggestions would
be very much appreciated.

Tiger
tiger@netcom.com
From: kevin@kestrel.edu (Kevin Ow-Wing)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Re: Netfax (2.1->3.2.1) and line errors (remote)
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:34:04 GMT
Organization: Kestrel Institute, Palo Alto, CA

In article <moyman-141092092841@jonathan.ecn.purdue.edu> moyman@ecn.purdue.edu (Mike Moya) writes:
>When I first started using netfax (2.1) I noticed that sending to some
>numbers just fail. You can't send to them (I had it reported back to me
>that the remote fax machine would give a "line error" as the problem). The
>netfax software would just hang and timeout. I searched and searched and
>was confident that it was just flow control or lack of it. I noticed that
>no XON/XOFF's were being sent from the everfax 24/96D to the software while
>sending a page. I hypothisized that some remote fax machine could handle
>this and others could not. I also figured that the new netfax driver
>(3.2.1) would fix it. I just got the 3.2.1 stuff going and sent a fax to
>one of the numbers that fail (there is one on campus locally that exhibits
>this problem) and you get the same result, the remote fax machine hangs up
>and gives a line error, the netfax software times out with:
>

The 24/96D has a very large buffer, about 24K bytes.  You should notice that
the 24/96D will send an XON every .25 seconds until it has about 4K worth of
data in its buffer (the low water mark).  You will not see an XOFF from the
modem until the buffer gets very close to full.  You should realize that there
is no flow control between the two fax machines...

Also, FHNG: 52 implies that the remote machine did not respond to the 24/96Ds
MPS.  Unfortunately, without hearing and seeing the transaction, I can't really
suggest a cause or a solution.  You may want to try to get the firmware upgrade
from Everex (1-800-821-0806).  Ask for the upgrade for the EV967-02, the
release date should be around 4 August 1992 or later.

Kevin
From: yow!yow (Raymond Yow)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Help !!!!!
Keywords: fax
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 21:20:27 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: VAR provides turnkey system to corporate account
From: yow!yow (Raymond Yow)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: 200 to 300 DPI conversion problem
Keywords: problem
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 23:59:33 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: VAR provides turnkey system to corporate account

Hi, all the fax techies out there, I am having this real big problem
with my fax/modem card. Well, let me explain it...

   We have a MicroFax fax card installed in one of the PC to receive
incoming fax. the card is class 1 and 2 compatible. We write some
commercial applicatons that will enable us to fax encrypted message
in a 2-dimensional bar-code form to another fax. If the other site
has a fax machine, everything is okay, they can scan in the bar 
code to decrypt the message. but if they use commercial fax software
like Gammalink or WinFax Pro with their fax card and 300 DPI printer,
the bar-code get out of alignment and is not readable by the laser
bar code reader anymore. It seems to me that the problem is on the
DPI conversion. The fax uses 200 DPI as standard tranmission while
most printers print at 300 DPI. Somehow when the software do the 
conversion to 300 DPI, the fax gets mess up.(FYI, our bar-code is 
very sensitive to the change in the distance between black dots and
also the width of the dots. After the fax get printed on the 300 DPI
printer, The size of the bar-code gets smaller and off-alignment). 
Is anyone one out there know of this problem and if you do, please 
shine a light on me, it is driving my boss up the wall.

P.S. We use a DOS and Windows 3.1 base fax software.

Also, here are a few more questions...
1. Could anyone tell me where to get the standard for fax. Isn't 
   there something like T.30 ? 
2. How exactly is the DPI conversion works, is there some algorithm 
   that they use ? 
3. We are looking for a fax card manufacturer that have a WINDOWS 3.1
   API (good one) so that we can integrate fax feature into our WIN 3.1
   application. Do you know of any good one ? I have talk to GammaLink
   and they seem to be one of the powerhouse. Am I right?



Thanks in advance..

Raymond---    

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: root@fns.gold.sub.org (Peter Bechtold)
Subject: Netfax with ISC and ZyXEL
Organization: Peter's News Server, Munich, Germany
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 18:36:00 GMT

Is anybody out there who managed to get Netfax running on a ISC system (or
any other SysV) and ZyXEL modem ?

If so, do  you have a getty which can distinguish fax and data calls ?

peter

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