HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ldasilva@engws9.ic.sunysb.edu (Luis Dasilva Ruiz)
Subject: Re: Colombia Newsbriefs 12/9 ed-lp
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:34:34 GMT

In response to some remarks I made regarding drug legalization,
cmbr01@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:

>As a Eurpopean living in Europe I have not heard of any move towards
>legalisation of drugs here. Certain countries such as The Netherlands
>have relaxed laws to allow personal use and both the UK and The Neths.
>have pretty good drug user support systems (needle exchanges etc).
>
>I personally am for making the imposition of taxes upon drug sales and use.
>Then people can go uot and work for the money to buy the drugs etc just as
>many people do now for to buy alcohol etc.

I think that in my original post I gave the impression that drugs
were already being legalized in Europe. This is certainly wrong, and I
apologize for the mistake. However, I decided to check my source
(VenEconomy magazine) and in an article describing the last San Antonio
summit, the author says that "drug legalization is an option
that European countries are starting to consider" (sic) and compares
this with President Bush's absolute rejection of the option.

Notwithstanding this honest mistake, I hope the purpose of the original post
was well served: That there are several HONEST ways to think about the drug
abuse problem, and that every proposal deserves serious consideration, not
arrogant dismissal.

I thank Mr. J. for pointing out the mistake. Now let's get back to
basics (Mafalda, School Uniforms, Christmas celebrations, etc...)

Luis DaSilva

Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
From: aap@wam.umd.edu (Alberto Adolfo Pinkas)
Subject: Re: Human Rights in Cuba
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 16:32:01 GMT

In article <20676@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu writes:
>Alberto,
>
>Thanks for excluding me again from your kill file.  

Just for the record: I do not have a kill file, or, if it is there, I do not
use (nor do I know how to use) it. Kill file go against my principles.

You say now:

>His interpretation basically defends the conclusion that Jews in pre-war 
                                                                  ^^^^^^^
>Germany were the
 ^^^^^^^^^^
>petite-bourgeoise of that state, and for Hitler it was very easy to turn them
>into scapegoats of the ecnomic caos of Germany's depression.  

However, you said before:


In article <20671@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu writes:

>It is as if one would say the way to get 
>human rights for homeless is to get them a home, when anybody could tell you  
>that jews lived in homes during WWII albeit were nearly erradictaded from the 
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>entire continent.
From: julio@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Julio Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Consulta Alcoholica de Chile
Keywords: Chile
Date: 31 Dec 92 18:55:14 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


   Ennio,

       I have a couple of bottles of Pisco here. I brought
      them from Chile though as I could not find it in 
      Philadelphia. The people who have tried it here like
      it. I don't know why it is not being marketed. 
       In the case of wines, I am now finishing a bottle
      of 'Concha y Toro' del tinto.


Julio


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From: aap@wam.umd.edu (Alberto Adolfo Pinkas)
Subject: Re: Human Rights in Cuba
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 23:55:33 GMT

In article <20685@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu writes:

>A marxist does not believe in Judaism.  

This is wrong. 
Judaism is more than just a religion.
A large number of people who support marxism are also Jews. Even more,
some of them are zionists and live in Israel.
As a first reference comes to my mind Leon Rozitchner, who wrote the
book "Ser Judio", where he explains how many Jews are atheists, marxists,
and proud of their being Jewish.
There is also a book from J. P. Sartre about anti-semitism.
Is is also interesting to point out that quite many of those who went
to Israel during the first years after independence were zionists
who wanted a jewish-socialist state.
So, like before, when talking about Jews living in homes during WWII, you
are either mistaken or against the truth.


AAP
From: DowJones@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Motorola Said To Sign Some Investors In Iridium Project
Date: 22 Dec 92 11:10:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.gfBsF1S00Uj5M0pI01
Organization: Doctoral student, Engineering and Public Policy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


  

  By Ken Yamada   

  Dow Jones Staff Reporter  
    

  SAN FRANCISCO -DJ- Motorola Inc. (MOT) has signed up a number of investors
for its $3.37 billion Iridium project, which would gird the earth with
a satellite phone system, according to industry sources.   

  The Brazilian government and United Communications Co. Ltd., Bangkok,
Thailand, have signed letters of intent for each to hold a 5% stake,
valued at about $80 million, in the project. United Communications' stake
was confirmed by a spokesman, and industry sources confirmed Brazil'
stake. The terms imply that the Iridium consortium will finance the project
with roughly 50% equity and 50% debt.   

  ''We hope this will make Thailand the central hub of telecommunications
in Asia,'' a spokesman for closely-held United Communications said. 
 

  Earlier this month, representatives from Brazil's Ministry of Communications
met with Motorola officials at the company's Schaumburg, Ill., headquarters
to discuss the project and sign the deal, according to industry sources.
  

  A spokesman for Japan's DDI Corp., a long-distance telephone carrier
whose investors include Sony (SNE) and Kyocera Corp. (KYO), said the
company was seriously considering investment in Iridium, but hadn't reached
a decision. Another source said DDI has reached a decision to join the
Iridium consortium, but hasn't announced it yet.   

  An Iridium spokesman refused to comment specificially on the investments.
He denied speculation that Iridium needs more time than expected to sign
investors, explaining that signing foreign entities was a time-consuming,
complicated process that often required government approval. ''We are
right on track,'' he said.   

  Industry sources expect Motorola to announce at some point, perhaps
in early 1993, whether it has enough investors to proceed with the next
steps, which would be to obtain the actual cash from its partners, secure
loans and order satellite and ground equipment. The price asked for a
5% stake indicates that Motorola intends to finance the $3.37 billion
project with about $1.6 billion of equity and $1.8 billion of debt. The
company plans to retain a 15% equity interest in the project.   

  Iridium is currently in ''contractural negotiations'' with the Russian
government to launch about three of the more than dozen rockets needed
to carry the project's 66 satellites into orbit, the Iridium spokesman
said. But most of the project's launches will be U.S.-based, he said.
  

  The project, which still has to receive Federal Communications Commission
approval before it can proceed, faces competition from other proposed
projects, including ones headed by TRW Corp. (TRW) and Loral Corp. (LOR).
Motorola wants its system to be in operation in early 1998.    
    4:10 PM
From: piro@dollar.unice.fr (Oreste Piro)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Is Edelmiro Salas an idiot? Your vote please.
Date: 21 Dec 92 15:22:55 GMT
Reply-To: piro@ecu.unice.fr
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis
NNTP-Posting-Host: mark.unice.fr


I think I was the first, 3 months ago in publicly stating the opinion that 
Edelmiro is an idiot. I was strongly criticized for that. Since then however, I  
keep receiving private messages referring to him as an idiot and kindly  
advising me to include him in my kill file. Before I follow such an smart  
suggestion, I would like to run a small poll to verify how many of the  
suscribers to s.c.l-a
have a similar characterization of our celebrity. So:

1) If you think that Edelmiro Salas is an idiot, drop me a message with
a subject "YES, I think Edelmiro is an idiot."
2) If you you have the opposite view please say:
          "NO, I don't think Edelmiro is an idiot"

Indecisos abstenerse.

I will happily summarize the results.

Feliz a#o nuevo.
Ores.
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From: Blythe Systems <nytransfer@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Date: 03 Jan 93 01:04 PST
Subject: Re: Colombia,Peru Updates 12/27/92
Nf-ID: #R:J5FiwB19w165w@nyxfer.uucp:1964276973:cdp:1473800420:000:2438
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!nytransfer    Jan  3 01:04:00 1993


/* Written 12:13 am  Dec 31, 1992 by newsdesk@igc.apc.org in igc:ips.englibrary */
/* ---------- "PERU: SHINING PATH NOT LINKED TO EM" ---------- */
Copyright Inter Press Service 1992, all rights reserved.  Permission to re-
print within 7 days of original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'.

Reference: Asia, eastern
Title: PERU: SHINING PATH NOT LINKED TO EMBASSY BOMBINGS, SAYS MINISTER


lima, dec 28 (ips) -- the peruvian interior minister, general
juan briones, believes monday's bomb attacks against the japanese
and chinese embassies in lima were carried out by an unknown
terrorist group and not by members of the shining path.

''an unknown group operating in lima and using terrorist
tactics is probably responsible for the two car-bomb explosions
outside the diplomatic missions,'' said briones, who said the
authorities would soon release an official communique on the
incidents.

briones said the latest car-bomb attacks against embassies
were aimed at damaging peru's image abroad.

the first car-bomb, a truck packed with dynamite, exploded at
14:30 gmt outisde the japanese embassy in a western district of
lima, injuring 20 people and causing extensive damage to the
embassy and adjacent buildings.

according to a japanese embassy spokesman, none of the embassy
staff was hurt.

at 15:00 gmt, another vehicle packed with dynamite exploded
near the chinese embassy, seriously injuring two people and
damaging several buildings.

early on saturday, similar attacks were carried out against
the chinese, austrian and costa rican embassies in lima, using
vehicles loaded with gas cylinders.

meanwhile, in the town of huacho, 150 kilometres north of the
capital, a vehicle loaded with 200 kilos of dynamite exploded
near a bank, injuring 12 people and damaging 15 shops and
offices.

the police have blamed the shining path for the week-end bomb
attacks and said the offensive was organised to mark the 100th
anniversary of the birth of chinese communist leader mao tse
tung.

the shining path movement recently threatened to kill members
of the anti-terrorist police, the unit responsible for arresting
its top leader, abimael guzman, on september 12.

this is the first time since guzman's capture that the maoist
guerrilla organisation has openly threatened to kill policemen.

as a result of the recent wave of bomb attacks, lima police
have been placed on maximum alert. (ends/ips/trd/-sp/al/cs/cg/92)
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From: julio@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Julio Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Human Rights in Cuba
Date: 1 Jan 93 19:50:03 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <2B379347.11458@news.service.uci.edu> rravelo@asturias.acs.uci.edu (Ray Ravelo) writes:

> I remember that not too long ago the Soviet Union's stats looked impressive
> too!

  Good point. Are you saying that the health in Russia before
  Gorbachev was bad ? Do you have any numbers and sources ?
   I think this is a problem with a closed society, there are
  always reasons to doubt the official information. This is
  also true about many "democratic" countries also.

>
> By the same token Castro says his governement has no money to buy food and
> gasoline but he spends $500 million a year buying weapons from Rusia.
>
> Recently the Madrid, Spain newspaper ABC reported that Castro purchased
> 2 submarines, 30 jet fighters, several battleships and other military
> equipment from Rusia with a total tag (to be paid over a 4 year period) of
> 2 billion dollars.

   I hope the Clinton administration gets more real about Cuba.
   I think that if the threat of USA intervention ( open or 
   clandestine ) ceases and people can visit Cuba and form an
   idea by themselves, then the Cuban government's arguments
   based on that fear will loose power. As far as I know Cuba
   is open to tourism, is the USA that does not allow anybody
   living here to visit the island. Why is correct to befriend
   the communist goverment of China but not the one of Cuba ?

Julio

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From: barreraa@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Azael Barrera)
Subject: Re: Panama Commemmorates 3d Anniv of In
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 03:41:03 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <B8FiwB21w165w@nyxfer.uucp> nicanet@nyxfer.UUCP writes:
>
>Subject: Panama Commemmorates 3d Anniv of Invasion
>From: nyxfer!nicanet (NicaNet NY)
>
>
>Via The NY Transfer News Service * All the News that Doesn't Fit
>
>from...
>         Nicaragua Solidarity Network of Greater New York
>       339 Lafayette St., New York, NY 10012 (212) 674-9499
>
>            Weekly News Update #152, December 27, 1992
>
>
>PANAMA COMMEMORATES THIRD ANNIVERSARY OF INVASION
>
>While some Panamanians commemorated the third anniversary of the
>Dec. 20, 1989 US invasion of Panama with a mass at the common
>
>                               -30-
>
>These updates are published weekly. A one-year subscription is
>$25. Back issues and source materials are available on request.
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Quizas este bien los $25, ya que posiblemente cuentan con el acceso
de La Prensa (NY) y la reproduccion de sus servicios de noticias.

Nosotros en la lista Panama distribuimos las noticias que recogemos
sobre Panama de manera gratuita, luego de confirmaciones multiples de
que la noticia es veridica.  Para mayor informacion envien un "request"
a barreraa@lamar.colostate.edu, la lista es panama@lamar.colostate.edu,
pero no envien el mensaje de "request" a la lista.

Ciao, y Feliz An~o.

(Tambien recogemos noticias de otros paises de Centroamerica y Suramerica,
 pero por falta de mas tiempo no nos podemos dedicar a "ponchar" el tecla-
 do toda la noche todos los dias del an~o, quizas si alguien ayuda podamos
 hacer algo al respecto, si les interesa...)

Azael.-
From: nicanet@nyxfer.UUCP
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Date: 28 Dec 92 14:22 PST
Subject: Panama Commemmorates 3d Anniv of In
Nf-ID: #N:B8FiwB21w165w@nyxfer.uucp:1812149918:000:2015
Nf-From: nyxfer.uucp!nicanet    Dec 28 14:22:00 1992


Subject: Panama Commemmorates 3d Anniv of Invasion
From: nyxfer!nicanet (NicaNet NY)


Via The NY Transfer News Service * All the News that Doesn't Fit

from...
         Nicaragua Solidarity Network of Greater New York
       339 Lafayette St., New York, NY 10012 (212) 674-9499

            Weekly News Update #152, December 27, 1992


PANAMA COMMEMORATES THIRD ANNIVERSARY OF INVASION

While some Panamanians commemorated the third anniversary of the
Dec. 20, 1989 US invasion of Panama with a mass at the common
grave of 108 soldiers and civilians killed during the invasion,
hundreds of others who were made homeless when the US bombed
their Panama City neighborhood, El Chorrillo, attended a Sunday
mass at the Fatima church, preceded by a candlelight vigil and
procession on the night of Dec. 19. [ED-LP 12/21/92 from AP]
 
The president of an ad hoc commission of Panama's legislative
assembly, Arturo Vallarino, said Dec. 23 that some 50 supporters
of deposed general Manuel Antonio Noriega may be amnestied before
the end of the year. He warned that only those who committed
political crimes and not common crimes could benefit from an
amnesty. Among those arrested since Dec. 20, 1989 are Noriega's
former joint chiefs of staff Col. Marco Justine, former chief of
the political police Col. Guillermo Wong, and head of the
paramilitary "Dignity Battalions" Benjamin Colamarco. [ED-LP
12/24/92 from AP]

                               -30-

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
From: barreraa@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Azael Barrera)
Subject: Re: Listas/Clubes (varios paises)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 03:31:32 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Dec30.100632.2006@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu> jma@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:
>In article <92363.001710WBWQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, <WBWQC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>>               LISTAS LATINOAMERICANAS
>> 
>
>Costa Rica tiene su propia lista tambien
>
>			IRAZU@UCRVM2.BITNET
>        subscripcion:	LISTSERV@UCRVM2.BITNET
>
>Administrador: Luis Blanco  BLANCO@UCRVM2.BITNET
>
>J.M. Arias
>Univ. Florida
>jma@ifas.gnv.ufl.edu

Pero si mas no recuerdo es unicamente para Costarricences en el exterior,
mientras que casi todas si no todas las que aparecen en la lista de LISTAS
estan abiertas a todas las nacionalidades.  Yo administro la lista de
Panama (en el exterior) y esta abierta a todos los interesados en Panama,
no es unicamente para Panamen~os, aunque el principal interes es mantener
en contacto a los Panamen~os con acceso al Internet.

Ciao.-

"Hurray for Open Connectivity!"

Un abrazo a todos y Feliz Periodo Anual 1993, aunque sea impar.
From: nyt@nyxfer.UUCP
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Colombia newsbriefs 12/21 ed-lp
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:19:00 GMT
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Nf-From: nyxfer.uucp!nyt    Dec 22 14:19:00 1992


Subject: Colombia newsbriefs 12/21 ed-lp
From: nyxfer!nyt (NY Transfer News)


Via The NY Transfer News Service * All the News that Doesn't Fit

From el diario/La Prensa 12/21/92

Translated and edited by Toby Mailman. "el diario/La Prensa" is 
a Spanish language newspaper published in New York City.

Head of Intelligence in Medellin, Colombia Killed

The Chief of Intelligence (Sijin) for Medellin, Colombia, 
Captain Fernando Posada, was shot to death after his home was 
dynamited. The explosion forced Posada to leave his home, where 
he was attacked by gunmen. Five agents were wounded in the 
attack, apparently carried out by members of the Medellin drug 
cartel. The Sijin is one of the intelligence offices in charge of
finding fugitive members of the drug cartels in Colombia. (edlp 
12/21/92 from AFP) [the article did not give the date of the 
incident]


Colombian Guerrillas Surprised by Army

Two Guerrillas were killed and three wounded on Dec. 20 when
they were surprised by the Colombian army as they were attempting
to dynamite an oil pipeline near Antioquia, in northwestern 
Colombia. The pipeline is the second most important one after 
Cano Limon-Covenas, which has been sabotaged 20 times since it 
was put into service in June of this year. (edlp 12/21/92 from 
EFE)
 
 

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From: bill@mri.com (Bill Weinberg)
Subject: Re: Brazil: why Sidney Sanches [sic]?
Organization: Microtec Research Inc., Santa Clara, CA
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 05:52:08 GMT

In article <VkT7VB1w165w@nyxfer.uucp> nyt@nyxfer.UUCP writes:
>
>Subject: Brazil:Collor Believes He'll Prevail

>will be the president of the Supreme Court, Sidney Sanches [sic],


Why [sic]?  Sanches is ALWAYS spelled that way in Portuguese.



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From: julio@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Julio Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Colombia Newsbriefs 12/9 ed-lp
Date: 1 Jan 93 17:14:56 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


 Oreste Piro writes
>
>Do you remember General Ugo Banzer in Bolivia? Well he was well known to
>be involved in the drug business. He was also well known to have
>received a lot of military support to repress the bolivian people's
>to death.
>

  Do you know anything about the CIA-Drug connections ?

  There is constant talk in the "NON-MAIN-STREAM" press about the CIA
  being involved in the world drug trafficking. I saw the film 
  "Coverup" where thay give some facts about the Iran-Contra affair.

  1) North Oliver is wanted for drug trafficking by the government
  of Costa Rica.
  2) Drug traffickers were asked to carry weapons to the Contras
  and allowed to bring coca in their return flight to the USA.

   These type of allegations have been made since the whole series
  of conflicts in South-East Asia. In that case it was heroin 
  trafficking.

Julio
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