HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Subject: Image Splits Up 
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:19:11 GMT

When I got Youngblood #0, I asked my dealer about the split.
He said:

Image -- the name, the i icon, etc -- was owned by MALIBU.
The creators own the titles, Malibu owns the Image logo and name.
He said the rumor is that the artists etc are going to buy
this name from Malibu. All Malibu does is distributes the comics.
Anyone could do that, so Image wants to DIY.

This is the only rumor he's heard, nothing about them splitting up.

If they do buy Image the name, I doubt they'd split up afterwards!
I never realized Malibu owned Image the name.

He also pointed out that the reason Marble and Dee See comics come 
out on a monthly basis is that the editors can hire other people to
do them at their own discression. Image titles are owned by the
creators, so they control it. No one finished a Steven King novel
when it doesn't come out when expected. Likewise with
Image -- and with the HUGE press runs and $1.95 price tag, it's
not like they need the $$$.

Me personally would rather buy a $1.95 comic every 2-3 months than
waste $1.25 on a Marble or Dee See fill in issue every 2-3 months.

:)

Scott


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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Subject: Re: Star-crossed artists and writers
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Organization: The Institute for Criminal Science, Gizmonics Control
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:49:59 GMT

In <1gqipmINNriq@hal.com> dougm@hal.com (Doug Moran) writes:

>In article <1992Dec16.211027.4966@tc.fluke.COM>, moriarty@tc (The Napoleon of Crime) writes:
>>Maybe a star-crossed romance between a comix artist and a writer?  Jonathon
>>Pryce playing Neil Gaimen and Leo Salonga playing Colleen Doran?
>
>No no no; Tom Waits playing Dave Sim and Joanna Gleason playing Colleen
>Doran.  Music and lyrics by Sondheim.  Dancing choreographed by Tommy
>Tune (who can also play Gerhard).  Ironic input by Tom Lehrer (a
>rendition of SMUT sometime near the end of act I would be good).  Jack
>Nicholson in a non-singing role as Stan Lee.  Alan Moore in a walk-on as
>himself.  Billy Barty as Cerebus (in a dream sequence in act II).

My gawd, that's brilliant!  I might add Dennis Quaid as Rob Liefield in a
rock number, but that's getting picky.

                    "Suddenly I just 
                     got this kind of 
                     mystical vision.
                     There was this 
                     sorta big black 
                     bird shouting at
                     me."
                                     "Really?  Cool. 
                                      What was it 
                                      saying?"
                                                     "DRIVE on the
                                                      RIGHT!  You'll KILL
                                                      us ALL!  Drive on
                                                      the GODDAMNED *RIGHT*!
                                                      **AAAAAAGH**!" 
---
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Manual UUCP:  {uunet, uw-beaver, sun, microsoft}!fluke!moriarty
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From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Flame/inFantile Four
Date: 11 Dec 92 23:46:44 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

To steal a phrase from the book I'm about to bash:

***FLAME ON***

I just picked up Fantastic Four #371.  Now, I'm used to reading Elfquest and
various other non-Marvel non-DC titles, but lately I've been picking up
Spiderman issues, as well as some really disappointing X-Men titles.  I
picked up FF #371 because of the kick-ass cover, and found myself really
irritated by the contents.

Now, the story wasn't too bad, but as far as dialogue and characterization,
I thought it was positively atrocious.  Can someone tell me if the
characters from FF are always this obnoxious and irrational?

***FLAME OFF***

Drewcifer

P.S.  Please E-mail me; I don't read this newsgroup on a regular basis.
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From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Subject: Re: Why is PAD on the net?
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:41:33 GMT

In <71830@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
>I once had a few fellow pros over at my house, and I mentioned Usenet to
>them.  They were interested in seeing it.  So I logged on and started
>running through various headers.  Naturally the people involved wanted
>to read about those headers that applied directly to their own work.

>The threads were, almost uniformly, vicious, sniping, mean-spirited and
>arrogant.  

>Oddly enough, no one in that group was interested in opening up their
>own account.

Given that there are some clear consensuses (or near-such) about certain
comics creators on the net, one is left wondering just which pros were doing
the viewing?  Unless they happened to catch the net on an unusually bad day, I
have a hard time seeing, say, Dave Sim or Neal Gaiman or George Perez or Frank
Miller so turned off.

-- 
Michael Rawdon				  rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department,  Madison, WI
( Coming soon to a Massachusetts near you! )

"People try to tell me that my head is screwed on wrong,
 And I try to remind them that I've known it all along."
						- Men Without Hats
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From: cornwall@bach.udel.edu (Ray J Cornwall)
Subject: Re: Retcons and Dr. Doom (Re: Retcons: Marvel and DC)
Keywords: marvel doom simonson byrne retcons 
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:27:17 GMT

In article <Bz7Iss.H1H@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pmm34393@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dr. Vincent Vaugn ) writes:
>As far as the 2099 Doom is concerned--Victor vonDoom would not where
>a costume with cheesy spikes on it (unless they are functional which
>I doubt they will be), and unless they show his eyes behind those
>eyeslits, a lot of the characterization of Dr. Doom will be lost. Of
>course, just MHO!
Why wouldn't Doom wear the spikes? We have no info that Doom doesn't
like spikes. Hell, for all we know about Doom, maybe he likes spiked
heels! And maybe, just maybe, he likes running around in women's
underwear, singing, "Oh, I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay/ I sleep all
night and I work all day" and such. You're just PROJECTING your
feelings onto Doom...you evil person! SLAP!
(Sorry, it's just GRE's and finals talking...:)
>Another side note--I just read a Spidey issue where Baron Zemo II is
>running around without his mask--I highly doubt Dr. Doom's face could
>be worse than that! Yechhhhhhhh!
Just another example of why Sal Buscema is one of the best artists
there is, IMHO. For those who haven't read the Death of Vermin saga in
Spect. Spidey, do it- it was great...
Ray Cornwall
University of Delawhere
From: cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sim, Gaiman defend Spawn,Image
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:19:44 GMT
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland

>>Miller has actually agreed to do #11?  Last I heard, it was still up
>>in the air.
>
>Yeah, in Spawn #6 Todd confirms Miller will be doing issue #11 (as well as 
>the poster in #8.)
>
>Just to add something to this:
>
> Somehing to do with gangs. No doubt grim 'n gritty.

I have read somewhere that the Miller issue will focus on the wo
detectives in Spawn. Don't know about the gang part though. Still, it
should be interesting.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Stupid things that you don't want to hear from your Grandmother       >
> #1 - Her Death rattle.                                            
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Hard Boiled - movie?
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 08:29:24 GMT
Organization: Usenet Power Elite: Crush-The-Innocent-Newbies Strike Team

murph@athena.mit.edu (Keith E Murphy) writes:

> Does anyone know anything about Hard Boiled being made into a movie?? 
> There is a new film out titled "Hard Boiled", directed by John Woo.  It
> was described as hyper-violent, which makes me think even more that it
> might have something to do with the Miller/Darrow work. 

Sorry to disappoint, but John Woo is plenty capable of being hyper-violent
without drawing on Miller and Darrow for inspiration. :-)  An excellent
example is 'The Killer', which just got a US video release a few weeks
ago.  (Rent the subtitled version.)  It's *very* well-written, and
probably the best action movie I've seen since 'Die Hard', with more
gunplay than every James Cameron movie ever made rolled into one.  Fans of
the (completely different) "Hard Boiled" comic probably won't be
disappointed. 

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
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From: alex@animal.Bell.CA (Alex Laney)
Subject: CEREBUS Mailing List
Organization: Bell Canada, Ottawa, Ontario
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:00:42 GMT

[ Article crossposted from rec.arts.comics ]
[ Author was 00gdwessel@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu ]
[ Posted on 14 Dec 92 21:40:08 GMT ]

How many people here would be interested in joining a CEREBUS Mailing List???

I'm trying to get a good idea of how recptive this idea would be, so I can see
if I'll even bother to go through with it....

Of course, CEREBUS won't be the ONLY topic....this list can also include books
like SANDMAN, MARSHAL LAW, DOOM PATROL, etc....you know, books that just don't
quite have that X-MEN mentality...

If interestedm please EMail me....

Thanx.

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From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: Re: Bagging the Prebagged Comics
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:05:34 GMT

jchiu@csugrad.cs.vt.edu  writes:
... 
> Theoretically the prebagged comic would not deteriorate if
> it was stored in a vacuum.  How would you explain the way
> the US Constitution is stored and is still in one piece?
The Constitution of the United States of America and the Declaration of 
Independence are stored in an atmosphere of Argon at the National Archives
in Washington, D.C.  Both were previously displayed at the Library of Congress.
I would assume that much conservation and restoration has happened to both
documents, as they have done quite a bit of travelling (War of 1812, among 
others).
...

Torsten Adair		torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu
Organization: The Pennylvania State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:34:13 EST
From: Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Next men (wasRe: I'm bored - gimme something to read)
 <1992Dec15.000832.7180@inel.gov> <1gjpblINNe73@mozz.unh.edu>
 <1992Dec16.204519.8679@pacdata.uucp>

In article <1992Dec16.204519.8679@pacdata.uucp>, jimh@pacdata.uucp (Jim Harkins)
says:
>
>In article <1gjpblINNe73@mozz.unh.edu> mre@kepler.unh.edu (Santa MikE) writes:
>>Here's what I look forward to:
>>
>>Dark Horse: Next Men.
>
>I'm bored with Next Men, but MA is getting interesting.  I now buy MA and get
>Next Men thrown in for free.

Sorry, you've been buying the wrong comic then.  You've been getting
some comic about some guy's mother.  John Byrne has been putting M4
on the back of Next Men for the past 3 issues now.  If you've read the
latest issue, you know what the M4 means.
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From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew M. Solovay)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Annotated Stanley & His Monster #1
Date: 20 Dec 92 21:35:02 GMT
Organization: People's Front of Judea

In article <1992Dec20.065457.25860@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
>
>Stanley knows, in this version, that his monster is from Hell, but he
>clearly doesn't know what that means.  The monster's throwaway lines
>about Hell keep going over his head.  One of the better ones comes in
>the first panel of page 2, where Stanley is talking rebellion and the
>monster says "At least you had an excuse."

Hmmm... I don't have the relevant "Secret Origins" issue. Was the
Monster a fallen angel? It's been established that not all DC
demons were originally fallen angels; some are children of
demons, and some are damned souls who get promoted.
-- 
Andrew Solovay    
                "I know that, in America and under capitalism,
                 I am the freest woman in history."
                                --- Camille Paglia
From: ast2r@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Andrew Symons Troth)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Favorite Artists?
Date: 17 Dec 92 03:07:41 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

While I'm making lists...

Best Pencillers (in no particular order):

Brian Bolland
George Perez
Mike Parobeck
Tom Grummett
Dave Sim
Todd McFarlane
Dave McKean
Steve Pugh
Steve Dillon
Dan Jurgens (if only he would draw and not write...)
Rick Burchett
Ty Templeton
Jerry Ordway
John Byrne
Matt Wagner
Norm Breyfogle
Dick Giordano
Greg LaRocque
Tom Mandrake
Gene Colan
Rags Morales
Bart Sears
Darick Robertson
Kevin Maguire
P. Craig Russell
Gil Kane
Trevor Von Eeden
Kelley Jones
Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez
Chris Sprouse
Paul Chadwick
Tim Truman
Tim Sale
Bernie Wrightson
Joe Quesada
Eduardo Barreto
Chris Bachalo
Esteban Maroto
Alan Davis
Pat Broderick
 
	I guess that's enough. I just like far too many artists, I guess.
moving on...

Worst Pencillers:

Dave Hoover
Chris Marrinan
Rob Liefeld
Don Perlin
Kurt Schaffenberger
Dave Cockrum (since the mid-seventies)
Don Heck
George Tuska
Jim Janes
Tom Artis
Frank Springer
Cam Kennedy
Mark Badger
Chris Wozniak
Herb Trimpe
Mark Bagley
Denys Cowan
Alex Saviuk
Mark Pacella
John Romita Jr.
Rik Estrada
Jim Fern
Pablo Marcos
Paul Neary
Mike Manley
Al Milgrom
Ross Andru

Best Inkers:

Terry Austin
Dick Giordano
Mark Farmer
Al Gordon
Mark Pennington
Bruce Patterson
Robin Smith
Ty Templeton
Rick Burchett
Paul Fricke
Bob Smith
Dave Sim
Scott Hanna
Larry Mahlstedt
John Nyberg
Karl Kesel
Romeo Tanghal
Matt Wagner
Art Thibert
Randy Elliott
Dennis Janke
Kim DeMulder
Jay Geldhof

Worst Inkers:

Mike DeCarlo
Vince Colletta
Al Milgrom
Denis Rodier
Steve Mitchell
Danny Bulanadi
Bob Lewis
Joe Sinnott
Don Heck
Robert Campanella
Bill Wray
Tony DeZuniga
Steve Montano
Mark McKenna
Keith Wilson
Brett Breeding
Pablo Marcos

Yeah, long, I know. So sue me. :)

cheers,
	ast
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From: jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein)
Subject: Re: Grendel War Child is boring
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 08:01:39 GMT

<AERE7114@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> writes:
>  Yet another victim of a comic book story that lasts
> 10 issues when it could be covered in much less.  But the art is fantastic.

um, let me be the first to defend this book.  I think the central
problem with the series is the fact that Matt Wagner is imitating the
style of Lone Wolf and Cub, not taking into account the fact that Lone
Wolf and Cub was published in books totalling some 280 pages (in
Japan, that is) whil War Child is published in 20 pages instalments.
Therefore the story does not work on an issue to issue level. (I have
yet to read issue #5, so...)  However, when read straight through it
is much more enjoyable.
  Then we come to the art.  Ah, yes.
  Why does everyone seem to think that this is fantastic art?   It's
certainly passable, and sometimes even exceptional, but most of the
time it strikes me as akward.  McKeown (I think that's his name.) has
terrible storytelling skills.  His depiction of what's happening is
often very murky and confusing, and the fact that this story is being
told through sparse text only amplifies the problem.  Wagner's inking
is nice, but unappropriate from what little of Patrick's pencils I've
seen.  McKeown has a very clean line style, thin previse lines,
whereas Wagner prefers thick outlines, with lots o' dark shading.  The
combination is interesting, but not always effective.  Bernie Mirault
isn't helping things either by giving everything such garish colors
and overpainting the black-lines, taking away whatever contrast Wagner
had achieved.
  so these are the problems as I see them.  On the positive side, I
like the slow progression of the story, and the artwork (while I don't
think it works on the whole.  I'm looking forward to seeing his newer
penicls starting in issue #6) is an interesting but failed experiment.
even in its failure, though, its still miles above any of the current
Marvel crop....
  Ah, well.  My piece is said.  I do not think this is the best
Grendel arc published yet, but its certianly fun, and the Bisley
covers are nice (althogh he does have a strange way of drawing
Grendel's face-mask....).

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: mason
Subject: Re: Favorite Artists?
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 01:36:13 GMT

 
Alan Davis, Wendy Pini, John Byrne, Mike Grell, Jim Lee
 
 
-- mason
From: morpheus@cco.caltech.edu (Kynn Bartlett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: The Books of Magic
Date: 12 Dec 1992 06:28:16 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: yvonne.caltech.edu


A note on Tim Hunter -- the magic suppliment to the DC Heroes role-
playing game explicitly states that Tim Hunter is the son of the
Faerie Queen.

				--Kynn
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: raboles@eos.ncsu.edu (RODNEY ALLEN BOLES)
Subject: Re: Sue Richards' Age (again)
Keywords: Sue, FF
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:54:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.001037.3212@news.columbia.edu> ejs16@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Eric Jaron Stieglitz) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.235506.25791@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore) writes:
>>(Now I know how these old threads get dredged up...idiots like me who are
>>reading old postings feel the need to comment...)
>>
>>As for everybody's contention that women don't go to pot on their 31st
>>birthday, here's a little factoid that may pop some teen dream fantasies:
>>Near the end of November (the 25th, I think,) Christina Applegate (Kelly
>>Bundy on _Married With Children_) celebrated her 30th birthday.
>>
>>How's _that_ for scary?
>>
>>Jay (=
>
>I thought that she had turned 18 a couple years back...
>
>---
>
>Eric Jaron Stieglitz aka ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
>"With great power comes great responsibility"
>We have been given the power of free speech.
>Let's make sure that we use it wisely... 


She just turned 21 according to the little "Birthday's Today..." sort of
thing in my local paper a few weeks back. 
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From: ross@BofA.com (Ross Lefstin)
Subject: Creation of rec.arts.comics.vertigo
Organization: Bank of America, Capital Products, RMTG #5906
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 22:18:11 GMT


mkelly@bronte.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly) writes:

> [discussion about a rac.vertigo]
> ...There should be no doubt in
> anyone's mind that there is enough traffic for rac.vertigo. Topics like
> classic Swamp Thing stories, Sandman speculations, Books of Magic questions,
> Doom Patrol analysis, great Constantines of the past would all fit in a 
> rac.vertigo.

I agree.  People that are griping about too much sandman speculation probably aren't very interested in Hellblazer etc.,  and the contrapositive (Hellblazer, Swamp Thing, etc. people won't mind the sandman traffic) follows.
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Phone # for DC, Marvel, Etc.
From: glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 18:38:22 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

>>> Ohhhhhhh Pleasssee....  I am from N.Y.C.... There's no such a phone number
>>> called 1-212-555-1212 because  the three digits are 555 are pretty stupid, it
>>> was used among in movie, television shows....
>>> 
>>> Get real! *grinnning*
>
>To the telephone illiterate :), if you want to call directory information
>outside of your areacode, you must dial 1-areacode-555-1212.
>
>DC used to publish their phone number in the text blurb on the splash
>page.  Is this no longer the case?
>
Yes, this is no longer the case; why do you think the question  was asked?
That's the first place anyone would think  of looking for it!

-- 
"A horse! A horse! Somebody give me a horse, man, because|glazier@ 
I come to bury this dirtball, not to praise him. Whaddya |harvard.isr.edu
think I am? Whether it's nobler for the mind to make people suffer with all
these totally outrageous arrows arrows for a fortune, or what!" -- D.R.
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From: visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)
Subject: Re: John Byrne's Stint on Fantastic Four
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:23:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Dec11.183706.20218@meaddata.com> musgse@meaddata.com (Steve Musgrave) writes:

+>Can anyone tell me what Fantastic Four issues 
+>John Byrne worked on?

220(?),221(?) (written by him, but nothing special)
232-294 (all-byrne)

	I dont know if 294 was the last issue exactly.  I am sure it
was a 290's issue though.

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