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From: peterw@archsci.arch.su.oz.au (Peter Williams )
Subject: Re: lp1 timeout errors
Organization: Design Computing Unit, The University of Sydney
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 04:33:17 GMT

In article <C-AMB.92Aug25101425@solitude.math.utah.edu>, c-amb@math.utah.edu (Mark B. Alston) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug20.232231.22241@athena.mit.edu> tree@midget.towson.edu (Denise Tree) writes:
|> 
|>    Mark B. Alston (c-amb@math.utah.edu) writes:
|> 
|>    | I am having quite a problem printing out files from Linux.
|> 
|>    I had this problem not too long ago when I compiled Ghostscript and started 
|>    sending ps files to /dev/lp1. The large files would g for a while and then 
|>    jam with "cat: write error". The solution, provided by dave Einstein, is
|>    simple:
|> 
|> 	  in lp.h change the line "#define LP_TIMEOUT 200000" [[B[[Ato a value x100
|> 	  or more. I tried 20000000 and it worked fine but then I got another
|> 	  error today. I will double it on my next kernel compile I guess.
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> 	Thanks to everyone for there help but the problem remains. I
|> tried this and thought that everything was working but...  I have been
|> recieving the errors again.  I am not convinced that it is an actual
|> timeout error as the printer beeps three times then, quite some time
|> later, the lp timeout (or cat: Write error) occurs.  The delay between
|> printer shutdown and timeout error has me believing that something
|> else is causing the errors.  Perhaps there are some hidden command
|> characters that are messing up my printer.  However, these are
|> straight text files that cat has no problem displaying on my console.
|> Any Ideas??
|> 
|> Thanks
|> 
|> --
|> --------------------------------------------------------
|>   Mark Alston

I think that the proper cure for this problem is to get rid of the timeout code
altogether (that's what I do). If your printer runs out of paper in the middle
of a print with the timeout as is you only have the duration of the timeout in
which to replenish the paper or the print gets aborted and you have to start
again. This is a real pain with documents that have more pages than your
hopper size.

It is my intention (when I get time and I understand device drivers) to propose
a permanent solution to this problem. Possible enhancements involve examining the
returned signals for information such as "out of paper" that most printers send
as well as just the "printer busy" code.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: rajat@watson.ibm.com (Rajat Datta)
Subject: Signals and asynchronous i/o
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:32:52 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

Hi!  How do I do asynchronous I/O on Linux?  I would expect to do a
FASYNC fcntl call (well, the FASYNC flag of F_SETFL using fcntl), but
that doesn't seem to be defined in the Linux headers.  Also, comments
in the header files seem to indicate that SIGIO is not handled and it
is not expected to be added.  Is this true?

-- 
rajat (rajat@watson.ibm.com)
From: drew@ophelia.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Xwindows
Date: 23 Aug 92 20:33:48 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder

In article <714569736.F00062@remote.halcyon.com> Charlie.Lee@f42.n377.z1.fidonet.org (Charlie Lee) writes:
>Does anyone have any idea if X11 can be made to run on my Trident SVGA 
>card?  It has 1 meg and the 8900A chip.  When I try running X11, I 

Yes, it can.  Either write a driver from scratch or debug the 
Trident 8900 driver floating around.  Most of the commercial 
8900 drivers only work with an 8900C, so even there you may be 
SOL.

>just get a blank screen.  The keyboard seems to still be active.  I 
>haven't gotten around to fiddling with the clock values yet. 

Won't make a difference - if you RTFM, you'll find that Tseng ET3000/4000,
Paradise PVGA1, and Genoa chips are supported.  Note that the Trident is 
absent from that list.

If you want windows now, either buy a generic TSENG ET4000 based board,
or get MGR, which will work on stock EGA/VGA machines, and there is 
a Trident driver for it.



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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: andre@sun.ac.za (ANDRE SKARZYNSKI)
Subject: Re: Linux Standards (was: Stabilizing Linux)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 05:40:08 GMT
Organization: Electronic Engineering, University of Stellenbosch, South Africa

In article <1992Aug23.235932.20056@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> ericy@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Eric Youngdale) writes:

>In article <1992Aug16.234935.14600@sol.UVic.CA> pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug16.221736.9732@athena.mit.edu> tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) writes:
>>
>>I've got a great idea.  Lets develop a modified mailing list that is split
>>into 10 subgroups: linux-activists0 through linux-activists9.  Each person 
>>could subscribe to any *one* of them that they like, but here is the catch.
>>Each subscriber would be graded, between 0 and 9, after subscription, based
>>upon the amount they have contributed to the Linux effort.  And (Oh, I love 
>>this part), we could have a committee that would decide and revise that grade, 
>>ya.  Linus, I assume, would get an automatic 9.   But maybe the committee 
>>would decide that that was inappropriate. ;-)
>>
>>Now, whatever level a user subscribed to, he would only receive postings from
>>users >= that grade.  ie. subscribing to linux-activists1, would automatically
>>filter out all the zero's (and are there ever a chestfull of them out there
>>to filter).  

>        Hey, I like this idea.  I have one suggestion.  People at level zero
>who post would have their postings thrown into the bit bucket.  :-)  Just for
>fun we could send a copy back to the poster so that they think that it was
>really posted.

>-Eric

And this is a classic level zero! ;-)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bob@cheetah.inmos.co.uk (Bob Green)
Subject: Re: Patch to 0.97PL2 to reduce unnecessary compiles during a build
Organization: INMOS Limited, Bristol, UK
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 07:31:18 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.054524.28430@athena.mit.edu>, tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) writes:
|> I got tired of waiting for a build of the system to finish, after I only
|> modified one or two configuration files.  But due to how the UTS_RELEASE
|> and UTS_VERSION defines were updated, a lot of unnecessary files would
|> get recompiled due to their dependency on config.h, when they didn't
|> need to get recompiled.  By separating out those #define's to another
|> building, we reduce the need to recompile sections of the kernel when we
|> relink the kernel.
|> 
|> Linus, could you make sure this patch makes it to the next release?
|> Thanks!!!! 
|> 

Hi,

wouldn't it be simpler to make use of the various targets defined in the
Makefile ? I use

make Image

to do what you want, ie. just recompile the bits that have actually changed,
and

make

to increment the version and rebuild everything. Works OK for me.

-Bob

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From: int177c@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Jae Won)
Subject: upgrading from 0.96a to 0.97
Summary: a bootstrap problem?
Keywords: 0.96a, 0.97, gcc2.2.2, bootstrap.
Organization: Monash University
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 01:49:16 GMT

Hi...

	I am considering an upgrade to kernel 0.97. I currently have 0.96a as my
kernel and gcc2.1.1(I think). Now, I have kept up to date with news and have
read things regarding the upgrade to 0.97 and I understand that it can only
be compiled with gcc2.2.2 compiler. 
	That's fine if you have gcc2.2.2 but if you don't, you have to get it as well. Now, I read the readme files and it says somewhere very near the top that
to use gcc2.2.2, you must have kernel 0.96c or higher. Hmm, does this mean:

I have to upgrade to 0.96c first before upgrading to 0.97???

I guess I could do it but it seems absurd that I have to upgrade to 0.96c just
to upgrade to 0.97...

Anyway to get around this bootstrap problem??


Jae.
int177c@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au


p.s. for those of you who may have read this post, sorry about posting again,
but I didn't get any replies nor did I see my post on the net. 



Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: cummings@tiger1.prime.com (Kevin J. Cummings)
Subject: Re: Want to buy a linux PC...
Keywords: Buy PC
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:29:42 GMT

In article <bibhas.715456267@femto.engr.mun.ca>, bibhas@pico.engr.mun.ca (Bibhas Bhattacharya) writes:
> I did some shopping again for the nth time to buy a 386 good for
> linux+X. My budget failed me once again :(
> I don't know if I ever will see X running on my own PC :(
> 			        		        `
> Is there anybody out there who wants to sale a compatible PC for a
> reasonable price?
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to where can I buy cheap noname 386?
> Thanks...
> Bibhas.

I just bought a 16Mhz 386SX "noname" PC complete with 256K VGA (I think it
was Trident, so sue me) for my Dad from Sam's Discount Warehouse (or whatever
they call themselves).  US$899 for 2MB RAM, 5.25 & 3.5 drives, and 109MB IDE.
No-name mouse (Looks like a Logitech clone).  Four expansion slots, and a
mini-desktop case. It came with DRDOS 6.0 and WIndows 3.1 bundled, along with
PFS:Works.  In this newsgroup, who cares!

I beleive the Brand name was KLH or KHL or something like that.  They had
a 25MHz 386SX with a 40MB drive for about the same price (the rest of the
configuration was about the same).  This is about as cheap as I've seen
mail-order for 386's.  Though for a couple of hundred more, I'm sure you can
get a DX instead of an SX.  (And get a 486 for a couple of hunder more than that!)

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell)
Subject: Re: Up and Running linux
Keywords: Up and Running linux info. needed
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:05:09 GMT

eoi@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Chenmin Zhang) writes:

>    1).  I have a 386sx25 MHz IBM compatible machine with 4 Mb RAM and 106 Mb
>         Seagate IDE Harddrive, 1024 * 768 superVGA and a 2400 Baud modem.
>         With this bare bone system (from UNIX point of view), is that possible
>         to run Linux?   I don't care how slow it will be, I just want to know
>         if it can be run or not.

    Sure.  I've seen posts from people running Linux with 2 M of ram even.
As far as the 106 M drive, that's certainly enough to run a nice Linux system,
I'm only using 160 M on my SCSI drives for Linux, and with X, two versions
of GCC, Linux source, etc etc I still have over 90 M free.  My feeling so far
is that 80-90 M would be enough disk space for most users unless you're
running news or something.

>    2).  I live in the MidWest of America, where is the nearest ftp site for
>         downloading most recent version of Linux.

    I would think sunsite.unc.edu would be closest, but what with the backbone
and all I really don't think "nearest site" is nearly as much of an issue
anymore.  tsx-11.mit.edu is the main FTP site for linux.

>    3).  How big is the complete Linux, does it support partial install?  How
>         many disk space required for both case ?

    Depends on what your idea of "the complete Linux" is.  :-)  As I said,
my system, except for news and TCP/IP, is a "complete linux", and I'm using
3 M on my root partition and 55 M on my usr partition with a bunch of junk
sitting around.

>    4).  What's the major fugures of Linux?  Doesn't it support X on 386sx ? 

    Sure does.  It may be a bit sluggish on 4 M of ram, and you'll definitely
want a swap partition, but it should work.

--
    Tim Russell                 Omaha, NE              trussell@unomaha.edu
One of the richest men in the world made his billions selling a toy "operating
system" that is more accurately described as a glorified bootstrap loader.
                                                  -- Phil Karn
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: alsaggaf@athena.mit.edu (M. Saggaf)
Subject: RAM Disk Trouble
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:00:53 GMT

I tried to use the RAM disk tonight but ran into a bit of a problem. I
compiled the kernel with the RAM disk support. Then made a file system
using the command mkfs /dev/ram 512 and mounted /dev/ram. However, I
keep getting I/O error messages relating to thr RAM disk. Did I use
the correct procedure in using the RAM disk? (I couldn't find anything
in the FAQ). If so, what would be the source of trouble here? Any help
is appreciated.

------------------------------
/M. Saggaf
 alsaggaf@athena.mit.edu


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From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: GNU kids on the block?   (sorry... couldn't resist)
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:05:13 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <1992Aug31.185733.21037@hpmcaa.mcm.hp.com> bryanf@hpmcaa (Bryan Ford) writes:
>lm@slovax.Eng.Sun.COM (Larry McVoy) writes:
>> steve@hacker.UUCP (Stephen M. Youndt) writes:
>> : but I feel very strongly about one thing [...]
>> : (according to rumors :-), and that's reloadable device drivers.  
>> : It just seems that the micro kernel people are the only ones doing it.
>> 
>> SunOS has had loadable device drivers, system calls, and functions (I'm
>> not sure what you use the last one for but there it is) since SunOS 4.1.
>
>So has AmigaDOS, since 1.0. :-)

I've got a month or two to implement them yet (evil grin) - I'm not even
up to 0.98, and I'm seriously thinking about it.  No promises, but it
looks simple enough (after all: why do you think I gave the kernel a 1GB
virtual address space when changing the mm...)

		Linus

PS.  Seriously: it will take a few releases to get anything working -
0.98 may have some support for it, but these things take time: 0.12 had
the kernel support for shared libraries, but only now are they getting
mature. 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mike@hectic.demon.co.uk (Mike Davies)
Subject: 16550A
Distribution: world
Organization: MMD
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 11:28:00 +0000


In article <66623@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt0449a@prism.gatech.EDU writes:

>Does anyone else have problems with Linux not correctly "shutting down"
>the 16550?

I can confirm precisely the same effect. I don't call it a problem
as I don't know if it's DOS being brain-dead. However, it does 
happen.

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From: wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: HOSTNAME usage?
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:46:25 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

frank@cs.yorku.ca (Frank Pikelner) wants to know how to make a hostname
change permanent, since /bin/hostname only changes it until the next
reboot.  The answer is to put in a /bin/hostname into the /etc/rc or
/etc/rc.local (preferably the latter, if you have it).

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Organization: Penn State University
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 20:50:54 EDT
From: Beaker <MXD120@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject:    Installing GCC 2.2.2d

I'm having some problems installing GCC 2.2.2d.  I think I have all of
the required tar.Z's.  I have 2.2.2d*, binutils.tar.Z, shlib.tar.Z,
and 0.97pl1inc.tar.Z  The install script complains about not finding
a few directories and/or the files in them.  I think the directories
it wants are */linux/asm or something similar.  Do I need the kernel
sources to install 2.2.2d?  Thanks in advance.

--Beaker
From: steve@Nyongwa.CAM.ORG (Steve M. Robbins)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: PS and adduser/admutil
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:06:51 GMT
Organization: Chiral Symmetry Breaking, Inc.

In article <1426@yetti.UUCP> frank@cs.yorku.ca (Frank Pikelner) writes:
>Has anyone else had problems compiling these programs? I would assume that since
>the programs have been up on the FTP site for some time that they should work.

Never assume that! :-)
In fact, I don't think the adduser you are referring to ever worked.

>When I try to compile PS I get errors in the CRYPT file. For the ADDUSER program,
>I get an error message 'unreliable "getc" function - wierd? Also the program
>compiles. but runs into an endless loop and keeps asking about ROOT permissions
>for a user. For the ADMUTIL the program crashes again with the CRYPT problem.
>
>I'dlike to know if its just me or the programs do have problems.

It's not just you.  I got pissed off enough to rewrite adduser myself.
After I uploaded it, I was told of a huge security hole in it, so I reworked
it.  So if you download something named 'adduser' written by me, you'll 
probably want the newer one, with a different name:  In the process I added 
some functionality, and renamed it "pwdutils".

I grant you that it's obscure enough that you would't think it included
an "adduser" utility, but the main program allows root to do anything you want
to /etc/passwd without editing, so I chose to name it pwdutil.

In any case, I put it on tsx-11, but since I haven't seen the announcement
for it, I suppose it is still in /incoming limbo.  So I also put it on
sunsite, (sunsite.unc.edu I think).  It may be still in the incoming directory
there too, but at least it's readable.

The file to look for is pwdutils.tar.Z.

> ---  ---    Frank Pikelner                                          /~\
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From: wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux history...
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:14:46 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp) writes:
>Jan Nicolai Langfeldt (janl@ifi.uio.no) wrote:
>: He probably knows your favourite linux hostname too, so check that
>: new kernel source before you start using it! :-)
>
>if ((gethostname(host, 32) == 0) && strcmp(host, "klaava"))
>   panic("Hahaha, Lars!");

Hah, that won't work.  klaava (and kruuna; they are Finnish for heads
and tails, as in coins) is the machine I (and Linus himself as well!)
read news.  They are some Sun machines and belong to the university.

Besides, I think you reversed the strcmp test.

Also, I think you should give Linus a bit more credit for inventiveness.
Like, say, 

	if (strcmp(host, "haven") == 0)
		randomly_corrupt_one_byte_in_buffer_cache();

Don't insult him with mere panics.  :-)

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From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Beta TCP/IP
Date: 31 Aug 92 02:57:08 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <1992Aug28.114657.25690@stc.nato.int> koelman@stc.nato.int writes:

   > My biased vote would be for a PCnet-ISA driver (it's the NE2100 card
   > in a chip). It's a high performance bus master ethernet chip which
   > we are agressively designing into PC motherboards. Depends on whether
   > you're interested in existing systems or future systems.

   which PC manufacturers/vendors actually supply motherboard
   ethernet?

Not many so far.  I perceive it to be more popular on slotless
machines than on slotted.  For example, Compaq and Zenith both have
motherboard Ethernet on their portables.  Zenith also has a desktop
machine with an NE2000 built-in.

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com>  I'm proud to be a humble Quaker!
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: almesber@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch (Werner Almesberger)
Subject: Re: LILO
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:22:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.230353.1794@cis.ohio-state.edu> zwerin@cis.ohio-state.edu (Andrew Zwerin) writes:
> Can anyone tell me how to accomplish this?  It would be a great help
> if you could also explain the options I should be using?

Your /etc/lilo/install should probably look like this:

/etc/lilo/lilo -b /dev/hda -i /etc/lilo/boot.b -c \
    linux=/Image \
    msdos=/etc/lilo/chain.b+/dev/hda1@/dev/hda

Then you boot linux by default and you can manually chose linux or
msdos. -c compacts the map file, which usually makes booting a bit
faster.

Unless you're terribly short on disk space, you should also add an
alternate boot image, e.g.

    linux.orig=/Image.orig \

If you should ever damage your main boot image or if you update it
and forget to re-run /etc/lilo/install, you can still boot that
alternate boot file.

- Werner
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: franky@duteca.et.tudelft.nl (Frank W. ten Wolde)
Subject: Re: Microsoft Bus mouse works, sorta
Keywords: microsoft, bus
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:52:11 GMT

I did ask this question some time ago on comp.os.linux but now we have
more people interested in the Microsoft Bus Mouse (MBM) I'll try again.

In order to get a better working MBMdriver I'm searching for the 
technical reference guide to the MBM. I don't mean all those books telling
you how to use the MBM on MS-DOS with a mouse driver installed :-)

Does anyone have any leads to this information?
Thanks!

-FtW
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