HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mellum@skyler.mavd.honeywell.com
Subject: Re: 231 turbo question
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:00:28 GMT

In article <1af4i2INN991@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, dtn@po.CWRU.Edu (Donald T. Noda) writes:
> 
> 	I was wondering if getting an aftermerket or junk yard
> turbo charger for my GM231 would be okay.  In other words, will

A lot depends on what kind of car this is going in. Is it FWD, RWD? What body
is it?  Is the car carb'd or FI?  Do you plan on putting on an
inter(after)cooler?  One thing I know for sure is that you'l have to do some
extensive exhaust plumbing changes, also will need pistons built for the '86-87
turbo cars. These were different than previous years. 
Ron
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: tvervaek@col.hp.com (Tom Vervaeke)
Subject: Jeep Wrangler - bigger tires
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:39:01 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

I have a 1991 Jeep Wranger with stock 215/75r 15 tires. I live her in
Colorado and would like to put larger tires on the vehicle. I've been
told that 235/75r 15 is the largest I can go on the stock rims. Beyond
that I would need to get wider rims. 

Does anyone know what width rims are on my stock car? And, what size
should I get if I want to put moderately sized tires on the car now,
i.e. 30x10 or 30x9.5 or the like. Not those huge tires seen on some
jeeps.  

ANy help would be appreciated. Please reply via Email as I don't check
here too often.

Tom

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From: mperlman@nyx.cs.du.edu (Marshal "Airborne" Perlman)
Subject: Chevy Kicks Fords Ass Again!
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 15:52:05 GMT

I see that Chevy has come out with the new Camaro and Firebird / (Z28 and T/A).

Both are nice cars...for some reason the Firebird looks nicer then the Camaro
<the Camaro has GEO STORM headlights!>...but both having 5.7L V8s, who
cares! I'd take either one.

Look what ford did..they took their mustang and rehashed it yet again...the
"Cobra"...ya reet!

GO GM!
--
           Marshal Perlman <> Florida Institute of Technology 
                    ***** perlman@zach.fit.edu ***** 
               Private Pilot - Airplane Single-Engine Land

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From: tonyg@spock.retix.com (Tony "Salty Dog" Goulding)
Subject: News to me: snippet from Traffic School...
Organization: Retix, Santa Monica CA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:06:50 GMT

Hey ho!
Just thought I'd share a snippet of information that was told to the
Traffic School class I attended this weekend. I was not aware of it, I'm
sure alot of other aren't either.

The teacher gave a suggestion when fighting speeding tickets.  (This is
apparently true for California - can't comment about other states)
Every street in CA must have a survey performed on it every 5 years.
The survey attempts to determine 'safe' speed for that road at various
time periods of the day - typically, the road might be catagorized by 
up to 3 different speeds (e.g., one during rush hour, one for either
side of rush hour, and one for really dosile hours, such as early a.m.).
Since only one speed can be published and not 3, the lowest is posted.

So, should you get done for speeding and you consider that you were
driving 'safely' considering the time of day and volume of traffic (or
even if you were not), you should go to City Hall and ask for the survey
for that particular street and check the speed variants and when the
last survey was compiled.

Now, when the cop tells the judge the speed you were doing and the
posted speed, you ask the cop if (s)he has a copy of the survey for that
road, as another speed might apply which puts you within the 'safe'
speed limit.  If (s)he hasn't got it, OR has it and the survey has not been
updated in the required 5 years, the case should be thrown out.

So, it seems as though posted speed limits are not necessarily binding,
as this might only represent the slowest of up to 3 possible speeds,
depending upon time of day and traffic volume.
Any comments, contradictions, etc welcome.

-- 
Tony [All views expressed are mine - if anyone is to blame its me]
==================================================================
"What a waste it is to lose one's mind.  Or not to have a mind is
being very wasteful.  How true that is" Vice President Dan Quayle
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From: mark@wdcwdc.sps.mot.com (Mark Shaw)
Subject: Re: downforce and cornering g's (was which car handles the best?
Organization: Motorola Western MCU Design Center, Chandler Arizona
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:26:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.165751.17680@linus.mitre.org>, rll@frieda.mitre.org (Roberto L. Landrau) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep28.133110.20448@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dpaper@nyx.cs.du.edu (David Paper) writes:
|> >Ummm I hate to clarify something..
|> >
|> >but if you have taken a basic level physics course, you would know that a
|> >car can never obtain more than 1g, in actuality, .9 is VERY good, as i
|> >think the dodge viper gets umm .93 or something..
|> 
|> Please, bear with me.  It's Monday and I am having a hard time
|> following your logic.  First of all, I took a basic and an advanced
|> physics course at a reasonable institution a few years ago.  However,
|> my professor never claimed that >1g was impossible.
|> 
|> If 1g is the maximum a car can obtain, then...
|> 
|> let s = the distance traveled in time t
|> 
|>                  2
|> s = v t + (1/2)at  , where v = initial velocity, a=acceleration, t=time
|>      i			    i
|> 
|> since 1g = 9.8 m/sec, and v = 0, in 400 meters (1/4 mile)
|>  			   i
|> 
|> the fastest car in 1/4 mile can do, at best,
|> 
|>       t = sqrt(2*s/9.8) = 9 seconds.
|> 
|> Now... I have seen some dragsters do < 5 seconds.  Let's see...
|> 		    2
|>       a = sqrt(2*s/t ) = sqrt(32), which is more than 5 g's.


Right idea, wrong equation:

a= (2*s)/(t*t) which is about 3.3 g's average.
From: bi927@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Yi Jin)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: (Mazda) Warranty void after accident?
Date: 5 Oct 1992 02:11:18 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I recently bought a 91 Mazda 323. It is still less than 1 year old.
The privious owner had an accident with thhe car. It was rebuilt at
an authorized mechanics .  When I bought the car, the flash light,
or head light, got the problem. I went to the Mazda dealer, thinking
thatt it is still under warranty. But the dealership charged me $54
without finding anyy problems that cause the problem. They said that
since the car involved in a n accident, I no longer have warranty.
They told me they fouund the car may have problems with engine, 
cooling system, etc, thatt may causes problem. They have e to 
charge  $350 to find the exact causes to my problem.

I was nervious, as I thought I got ripped off by the original owner
of the car. I went to a mechanizics that I trust. They inspectted
the car, fouund the problem, charge me $40 laboor and $50 parts.  They
found no problems with the engine and cooling system. So $90 solved
my problem. The dealership wants $54+$350 just to find the problem!

To be sure, I went another auto inspection station, they found no
problem at all. (I have fixed that light problem). The accident was
minor. 

Is there any chance that I can get the Mazda warranty back? The car
does not have any problem now. But I just feel it is unfair to 
void that 2 year+ warranty because of the minor accident. 


Lucia
From: johnl@pcx.ncd.com (John Light)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: FWD vs. RWD, Which is best.
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:53:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: pcx.1992Sep30.195357.7071
Organization: Graphic Software Systems, Beaverton, OR

In article <1992Sep29.225853.6463@qiclab.scn.rain.com> al@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Alan Peterman) writes:
>>Rear Wheel Drive _cars_ for sale in the USA, 1992:
>>
>>Did I miss any this time?
>
>Yup!  LOTS!
>
>Volvo..

Except for the new Volvo that replaces the 240.  Imagine: a FWD volvo!

John Light
johnl@gss.com
From: david@xlnt.com (David Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: PC's vs. Mac's... was: FWD vs. RWD, Which is best.
Date: 2 Oct 92 23:14:08 GMT
Organization: XLNT Designs, Inc (XDI)

bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ron Bense) writes:
I drive an AWD now, and have driven RWD and FWD, all in snow, FWD is
better in snow for complete morons who want to take off in it the same
way they drive on dry pavement. RWD is fine, and with a little knowledge/
preperation (such as adding a 50# bag of sand in the rear) they will
drive as well as any FWD. Of course, AWD blows them all out of the water,
including 4WD. (THere is a difference between them.)

	Just what is the difference between AWD and 4wd?
-- 
David Johnson
XLNT Designs, Inc. (XDI)
david@xlnt.com
From: KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu (Karl Nordstrom)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: SHO Engine
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:21:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92273.172140KXN2
Distribution: na
Organization: Penn State University

awds_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (ClarkKent) says:
>-another word on the Taurus SHO v6-
>I got my Ford Motorsports catalogue recently:-)
>You can BUY a complete SHO engine, including the acc. pulleys,
>a/c compressor, wiring harness, and computer.  The price?
>Gee, they didn't list any prices in the catalogue.

The SVO catalog list it at $9,000 or so.  Och
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From: djs1539@cc.utah.edu (SEGAL, DAVID JAY)
Subject: New Camshaft = New Lifters?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date:  4 Oct 1992 22:54 MST  

I am attempting to replace the camshaft (which has a worn lobe) on my 
Ford 292 engine in my '63 F-100 pick up.  I have two questions:

1) Do I need to replace all the lifters when I replace the camshaft?
   (Shaft = $80, 16 lifters = >$100 )

2) Do I need to replace the camshaft bearings?
   (Shaft only = "in chasis" repair, bearings = remove engine)

And, please, I know that these additional repairs are a good idea, but
money is a factor here so what I really need to know is are these two
extra repairs necessary?

- Dave Segal
- Biochemistry, University of Utah
From: hacker@cco.caltech.edu (Jonathan Bruce Hacker)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: top ten sellers of '92
Date: 6 Oct 1992 21:24:22 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

1992 auto sales (from LA Times)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

12.9 million total sales

1) Honda Accord       387,881

2) Ford Taurus        347,534

3) Toyota Camry       277,792

4) Ford Escort        244,231

5) Chevrolet Lumina   219,120

6) Honda Civic        217,832

7) Ford Tempo         213,352

8) Chevy Cavalier     212,675

9) Toyota Corolla     206,560

10) Pontiac Grand AM  198,596


How dull.

-- 
Jon Hacker
Caltech, Pasadena CA
hacker@tumbler-ridge.caltech.edu
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From: z-car-request@dixie.com (Z-car mailing list)
Subject: Z-car Mailing List Monthly Posting.
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 04:08:18 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.
Reply-To: z-car-request@dixie.com


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From: steinmar@blaze.rutgers.edu (dan steinmark)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Tire width vs wheel width question
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:02:08 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


In article <1992Oct4.014330.2315@rosevax.rosemount.com> grante@aquarius.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards) writes:

> How do you know what tire sizes will fit on a given width wheel?  I've
> Grant Edwards                                 |Yow!  Loni Anderson's hair

There's the 70% rule, which says that the rim width should be at least
70% of the tire width.

Which would mean for a 6" rim, tires of no wider than about:
  6 * 25.4 * 1.43 = 217.9       (DO check my math and mm/in)
rim   mm/    1/0.7  max tire     
width in            width

So 215's would probably be about as wide as you should go.

Of course, you have to worry about clearance in the wheel well, but that's
a different story.

And, on the other hand, many stock tire sizes don't quite follow this rule:
My Civic Si has 185's on a 5" rim, which is about 68.6%.  (Which really
means they should have given me a 5.5" rim :-(.

      -Dan
------------------
"55.  It's not justly a good idea.  It's the lawyers."
From: mshar@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Mshar)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Touch-up paint
Date: 5 Oct 92 04:34:01 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

>ejhupper@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Eric Huppertz) writes:
>
>> 1:  What do I use to strip the wax off my car without
>> damage to the paint?
>

When I put a cover on the bed of my truck, the instructions said to 
use rubbing alcohol to remove the wax. It worked great. 

Hope that helps....

-- 
|       Michael G. Mshar        | My Life-Long Goal: To keep common sense    |
|   mmshar@mn.ecn.purdue.edu    | alive and keep the idiots from taking over.|
|  mshar@mentor.cc.purdue.edu   |     \\President, Nice Guys Anonymous//     |
|____>>> United States Steel, Mechanical Engineer, Technical Services <<<____|
From: cambler@zeus.calpoly.edu (Christopher J. Ambler, Phish)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Looking for info on RX7
Date: 2 Oct 92 05:30:39 GMT
Organization: Fantasy, Incorporated: Reality None of Our Business.

I'm pretty set on a new RX7. Does anyone have anthing I should know? :-)

Please email, I *will* summarize.

-- 
If you insist upon living in a  | cambler@zeus.calpoly.edu | Fubar Systems BBS
dream, you may be taken as mad. |                          | (805) 54-FUBAR
  I like my dream.              | Because all you of       | 3/12/24, MNP5, 8N1
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From: jab3@cec2.wustl.edu (John Alonzo Breen)
Subject: Re: '88 Camry - oil leaks & head gaskets [UPDATE]
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:18:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.045404.19591@icf.hrb.com> mjk@icf.hrb.com (Michael J. Kelley) writes:
>In article <1992Sep25.155207.11289@wuecl.wustl.edu>, jab3@cec2.wustl.edu (John Alonzo Breen) writes:
>> 
>> Of course, now I'm worried whether the mechanic put everything back
>> together right (fortunately, it's got a 1-year warranty).
>-- 
>That's interesting. Anytime I've ever had anything replaced on my Camry,
>I've been given a lifetime warranty for as long as I own the car. Including 
>brakes and muffler. 

Was this for things you paid for, or that Toyota paid for?  I could
see giving a lifetime warranty on the first replacement that you pay
for out of your own pocket (especially things like brakes & mufflers),
but I would be very surprised if a car maker would do that for
something *they* provide; I would also be surprised if they would do
that for something like a head gasket.

At any rate, the "standard" warrantee on the back of the receipt says
one year, unlimited mileage (with some exceptions, like batteries).

Do you recall any other repairs that had a lifetime warranty?  Do you
know if the labor was included?

Thanks.
-- 
John A. Breen                   |
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From: rao@kodak.com (Arun Rao)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Opinions on '87 944S?
Keywords: Porsche 944
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:13:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: eastman.3792
Reply-To: rao@kodak.com (Arun Rao)
Organization: Image Processing Algorithms Laboratory, Eastman Kodak Co.


	Any 944S owners/enthusiasts/haters out there?  I'm contemplating
	buying an '87, with 52K miles on it.  The seller is asking $11,500,
	but he's willing to negotiate.

	The car is physically sound, and in excellent
	cosmetic condition.  The only observations that I could readily
	make were that the clutch seemed inordinately heavy (but then
	I've never driven a 944 before), and the engine didn't sound like
	my colleague's '84 (which has this distinctive turbine-like whine).

	Anything particular that I should watch out for?  Opinions/facts
	greatly appreciated!

	Thanks in advance.

	-Arun


-- 
Arun Rao, PhD
Senior Research Scientist
Recognition & Information Processing Group
Eastman Kodak Company
901 Elmgrove Road, Rochester, NY 14653-5722
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From: barrett@cc.gatech.edu (James Barrett)
Subject: Rec's for used car < $13K
Reply-To: barrett@cc.gatech.edu (James Barrett)
Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:10:37 GMT

Due to a new job for my wife (yea!), we need to purchase a new-for-us
car in the next 2 weeks.  We have about $12K available and have 
decided we *really* want a convertible.  We've looked mainly at
1990 Mazda Miata's, but also want to consider something with more
room for luggage (Toyota Celica, VW Cabriolet, Geo Metro).  I'm
looking for ideas on the best way to get a good deal when buying 
a used car as well as ideas on which of the best cars would be
most appropriate. 

Thanks in advance...

------------------OS/2 v2.0 -- Why settle for anything less?--------------------
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Georgia Tech College of Computing       |  you doing what you're doing, and I'm
                                        |  president of the U.S.?" - G.Bush
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From: jim@mwhhlaw (James P. Cavanaugh III)
Subject: Comments on new Dodge Intrepid (Chrysler LH)
Organization: Martin Wade Hartley & Hollingsworth
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 11:21:41 GMT

	I saw my first Dodge Intrepids over the weekend.  I am  
impressed.
	I got to sit in a base model, which the dealer had left  
unlocked.  This is a SPACIOUS car inside.  Interior volume seems closer  
to that of a Crown Victoria than a Taurus.  I liked the dashboard  
pretty well, although I wish they would give us an alternator guage in  
addition to temp and fuel.  Alt and oil pressure are idiot lights.   
There is a tach, though.
	The 2 base models I saw, with a/c, stereo, cruise, tilt and  
rear defroster (but manual windows, locks and seat) stickered at about  
$17,300.  I saw an upper line model with more toys and 16 inch wheels  
with a sticker of about $20,000.  
	I remember one poster who felt that fit and finish were vintage  
Chrysler (which is to say Not world class).  The cars I saw were  
assembled and painted very well.  I did not go over them with a fine  
toothed comb, but such treatment was never necessary to find flaws in  
some previous Mopars of my experience. The sound and feel of the doors  
had a Honda-like quality (I know because we have a Honda).  All in all,  
I think Chrysler has done this one right.
	I will admit to being a long time Mopar fan who has been  
suffering through many a lacklustre product year throughout the 80s.   
Even when Mopars were Mopars, most of us fans were won over by the  
excellent mechanicals and often put up with quirky (or just bad)  
styling and indifferent (to downright horrible) fit and finish.  To me,  
these LH cars have the most potential of any new Mopar since the 57  
models hit the showrooms lo those many years ago.  But unlike those  
stunning 57s, these new 83s appear to be built as well as they look.

Jim Cavanaugh
From: craigm@chateau-rouge.ics.uci.edu (Craig MacFarlane)
Subject: Re: Timing belts on Honda
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Reply-To: craigm@ics.uci.edu (Craig MacFarlane)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:05:49 GMT

In article <1aorh8INNdn9@bigboote.WPI.EDU> damong@wpi.WPI.EDU (Damon Francis Gentile) writes:
>
>
>Every belt in every car should be changed at least every 4 years regardless of
>mileage. If your timing belt goes and you aren't in the middle of nowhere,
>you're still fairly screwed. A friend of mine has a `79 Fiat X1/9 (and I
>have a `74...) and he got 112,000 miles from his timing belt.....
>Unfortunately, he was driving it at the time... He needed a total head
>rebuild to get his car running. And the bills from the parts supplier,
>machine shop and mechanic were nothing to be swept under the rug. (They
>couldn't fit...)fit....) I think you should definitely change it... even for
>peace of mind..... a $20 belt vs. a $700 head job ?

More like $100 - $150 in parts and labor.

I wouldn't recommend replacing a timing belt by yourself until you have
watched somebody else do it first.  If you do not do it correctly, you
may end up with bent valves. (Just what you were trying to avoid
by changing it in the first place :)

Craig
--

"Civilization will reach wisdom and maturity on the day it learns to
value diversity of character and ideas.  To be different is not necessarily
to be ugly.  To have a different idea is not necessarily to be wrong...For
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen)
Subject: Re: ACURA LEGEND UPGRADES
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 06:32:32 GMT

>-> I have a '91 Acura Legend Coupe and was wondering if
>-> anybody knows of any performance upgrade kits for the
>-> car.

as far as computer chips, try dinan engineering
(of dinan turbo BMW M6 fame) in mountain view.
they make chips for acuras.
-teddy
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: king@glacier.Stanford.EDU (Robin King)
Subject: Re: '92 Honda Civic Prices and Experiences
Organization: Center for Integrated Systems, Stanford University, California
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 23:32:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.194646.453@sctc.com> endrizzi@sctc.com (Michael Endrizzi) writes:
>
>If anyone has any stories/prices on new '92 Honda Civic send them
>to : endrizzi@sctc.com

	Well, my friend also had to have her clutch replaced on
	her new Civic.  That makes at least three people on the net.
	The repair place said they were experiencing real problems
	with Honda clutches so watch out.

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