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From: brian@ilinx.wimsey.bc.ca (Brian J. Murrell")
Subject: Re: Does a 487sx shut down the 486sx??
Organization: InterLinx Support Services Inc.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 15:54:48 GMT

ks3l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kenton Shaver) writes:

>Could anyone clear this up for me?
>I read it in some magazine, but my ECE
>friend is credulous.  Will my 487sx
>just shut the 486sx down and take over?

That's what I heard.  IMHO the 486sx is a *big scam*.

To get your 486sx you buy a chip which is a functional 486dx with the 
co-pro disabled (yes more work than a regular 486dx - yet cheaper!).
At some point in the future you need the co-pro, so you buy a 487sx, which
is just the regular 486dx with a 487sx stamp on it, which shuts down the
486sx crippled chip and takes over the machine running it like the 486dx
it should have been!!

The above is all rumour I've heard from many sources, and read in a trade
rag.  It is not the gospel!!

brian
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From: silber@daffy.cis.udel.edu (Herbert Silber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: CCD Camera for IBM compatible 386
Keywords: CCD camera capture video
Date: 22 Aug 92 05:26:09 GMT
Followup-To: gerb@brahms.udel.edu
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark


If anyone knows where I can get plans to build an inexpensive CCD camera for an IBM 386 compatible, I would appreciate the information.  I know such plans exist, but I have been unable to track them down. 

		Respond to : gerb@brahms.udel.edu

		thanks, Greg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: kgermann@zeos.com (Ken Germann)
Subject: Re: HHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: Zeos International, Ltd. 
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 23:09:07 GMT
Keywords: adaptec floppy

In article <jeff.713650936@adx.adelphi.edu> jeff@adx.adelphi.edu (Jeffery Storch) writes:
>I have a problem:
>	I have found a temporary solution... I have lowered my processor
>speed from 20 Mhz to 16Mhz and all works fine, but I do not want to keep
>the processor @16Mhz
>
>	I have an adaptec 1542B w/ a Maxtor 8760S and a 1.2 & 1.44
>floppies. my motherboard is a 386/20DX.
>
What is the transfer rate on the Adaptec 1542 set for? It comes default
as 5.8 MB. I would try to set it to 5 MB. Try booting to a DOS diskette
that doesn't load a memory manager and any TSR's. This is usually the
cause of the problems your are describing. Also check the DMA, and I/O
port addresses to make sure there are no conflicts with any other cards
in your system.

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From: djl1@ra.msstate.edu (Daniel J Leduc)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Videorecorder as Backup Media/Streamer ?
Keywords: VCR tape backup
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:54:42 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State University


I have an Alpha Microsystems Videotrax backup card.

It has some pluses and minuses, I will simply list these below.
If you want more information please feel free to email me.

+ It is a cheap form of backup since I can buy a 160 minute very
  high quality videotape for about $8.00 and this will hold about
  80 megabytes.

- The software which they supply, does not do multiple volumes so the
  maximum that can be done in a single backup is about 80 MB.

+ It is very reliable if you use a high quality videotape.  I use BASF
  extra quality Chrome T160 videocassettes.  When I tried cheaper ones
  the verify pass indicated an unacceptable number of errors.  I know about
  reliability from the verify pass  and from a complete restore that I 
  have done once.

- The verify pass with the supplied software is good for determining if
  the whole backup is good, but it is horrible for determining the quality
  of a single file.   This is because files are listed as they are 
  verified, and bad ones are listed in redd, but they are not saved in a 
  log file of any type.  If you don't watch the verify, you will not know
  which files were bad.

- It is slow.  If you fill a 160 minute tape with about 80 MB of data it
  will take about 160 minutes to write and 160 minutes to verify.  Since
  VCR's do not do a verify while writing these are two separate steps.
  Alpha sells a computer-controlled VCR, but if you use your own you
  must do the rewinding and playback.

-To my knowledge there is no standard videotape format.  If just your
  hard disk crashes you have a reliable backup, but if your computer
  burns or is stolen you will need and identical card to restore the data.

- Alpha microsystems has never responded to my letters and they do not 
  supply a phone number.

On my list you may note that the minuses outnumber the pluses, but the pluses
  are significant.  I really want to replace my videotrax system with 
  something better but given constratints on my mondy I find that it is a
  workable system.

-Dan Leduc
djl1@ra.msstate.edu
From: steve@sdf.lonestar.org (Steve Fuller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Feature Connector (was WinTV WARNINGS)
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:25:22 GMT
Organization: sdf Public Access UNIX, Dallas--unrestricted free shell access

In article <RFowler.328@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov> RFowler@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Robert A. Fowler) writes:
>I used the vga pass through cable, because the Ultra doesn't have a feature 
>connecter, and I did try it with the MS VGA driver, the ATI 640x480x16/256 

Sorry for the FAQ, but what exactly does a feature connector gain you?
My Dell 316sx has one, but I don't know what good it can do me. Are all
feature connectors created equal? :-)

Steve Fuller
steve@sdf.lonestar.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: sct@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen Tenbrink)
Subject: Gateway 486DX2 system
Keywords: Gateway, DX2-66
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 22:57:53 GMT

Gateway has just announced a new system that looks very good to me
despite all the negative things we read about Gateway here.  The system is
a 486 DX2 66Mhz systems with 8 MB of ram, 64K cache, a 340 MB disk, a
"new generation" ATI Ultra LOCAL BUS video adapter, and their 15 inch
crystal scan monitor.  The salesman said the Local Bus video is the first
VESA compliant bus.  The asking price for this is $2995.  This sounds like
a very nice system (except maybe the monitor).  Any opinions out there?




-- 
Steve Tenbrink
sct@lanl.gov
From: pdc@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Paul Close)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: ati ultra vs s3
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:43:08 GMT
Reply-To: pdc@sgi.com (Paul Close)
Distribution: comp
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Originator: pdc@lunch.wpd.sgi.com

Iskandar Taib (ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.1488.25667@dosgate> "kenneth tam" <kenneth.tam@canrem.com> writes:
>
>>Yes, S3 cards are slower than standard VGA cards, but it's quite possible
>>you won't notice much of a difference.  It depends where your priorities
>>are I suppose -- I've used S3's and various "normal" VGA cards and the
>>speed difference doesn't bother me..

I used to have a S3 card.  My problem is I didn't notice the speed in
"accelerated" mode, but I did notice the slow VGA mode.  I think it's
a marketing scam.  I'm quite happy with my ET4000 card (SpeedSTAR 24).

Actually, I noticed some speedup, but it sure wasn't worth the extra $100
it cost!  In addition, I get 800x600x32k and 640x480x16.7m color modes.
That combined with S3's abysmal support for OS/2 (anything but Windows,
actually) means "just say NO!".
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: mitch@b3.ingr.com (Mitch Walker)
Subject: Amiga monitor with VGA ?
Keywords: amiga 1084 svga
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1992 18:22:22 GMT


Does anybody have any information on using the Amiga/Commodore 1084 
monitor with my 386 as a vga monitor?  Seems like there was a 
discussion about this some time ago.  I'm sure the pin-outs are 
different.  Any information would be appreciated.

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From: josephk@nunki.usc.edu (Joseph Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Sudden Reboot Syndrome
Date: 15 Aug 1992 15:31:20 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: nunki.usc.edu

In article <1992Aug15.163525.17106@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bp112@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven C. Lin) writes:
>
>Which communications program are you using??  Although I usually do not use
>it, once or twice when I tried the "Terminal" applet that comes with
>Windows, my system rebooted, also.  Besides, Terminal has VERY little
>
>Steve Lin
>bp112@cleveland.freenet.edu


Yes, I was using the Terminal.  It's relief to hear that the problem
might be software related rather than hardware.  I will try some
other comm. s/w to see if the problem goes away.  I will post
the result just in case other people are having the same problem.

Joseph Kim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: tdbear@tandon.com (Tom Barrett)
Subject: Re: Help - Cyrix processors, anyone know for sure?
Organization: Tandon Corporation, Moorpark, CA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:15:09 GMT

In article <4184@news.chips.com> markst@chips.com (Mark Storkamp) writes:
>Just one problem with that approach, though.  If any software does a
>shutdown to get out of protected mode, the cache will be disabled.
>You really should upgrade your BIOS if one is available.

This needs to be qualified... only a 286-compatible shutdown
will turn off the cache (ie. one which uses the RC port from
the keyboard controller or a "fast" reset command).  Most
"modern" software recognizes the 386/486 and uses the special
features of the 386 to exit protected mode (much, much
faster!).

Do you know of any programs which use just the 286 compatible
shutdown?  I had a heated discusssion with our software
director about this (we compromised to reprogram the Cyrix but
not the other CPUs like the 486), but he killed me with the
question of which programs use this method of escape... all
the ones I could name pre-dated the 386 migration.

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From: cis501@clark.edu (Charles Boling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Keyboard probs -- Old BIOS?
Summary: Shift keys
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:13:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Aug19.021304.28713
Distribution: usa
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA


Many of Microsoft's editors allow you to highlight text by holding down the
SHIFT key and pressing the direction keys (arrows or otherwise).

-At least it allows you to do it on all computers EXCEPT mine!

I have an old '286 with a 1986 Award BIOS.  Is it more probable that the BIOS
doesn't support whatever feature is required to pull this off, or is the 
problem probably somewhere else?

Note:  This is the only problem I've had with the 101-key keyboard.  I suspect
that it is a replacement keyboard, and the original may have been an
84-key model?
 
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From: tbc@netcom.com (Mike Garvey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Are SEAGATE drives any good ?
Date: 20 Aug 92 06:16:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In a prior missive, fevrier@sunburn.ec.usf.edu. (Ian Fevrier (EE))
eloquently scribed this stuff:

>Recently I had a local computer dealer  try to convince me that Seagate
>drives are not worth the metal they're built with.
>
>To this date I would have sworn on a Seagate so I'd like to know if I
>have just been lucky. 
>
>Any data to substantiate this dealers claim ?

The older Seagate drives in smaller capacities (i.e. ST40xx, ST2xx) have
been known to suffer from sticktion and resonance from a spindle-load
button (read: they scream like a banshee), and have generally been not too
reliable. However, they are much more reliable in general than Rodime,
Miniscribe, and MicroScience drives.

When Seagate purchased Imprimis (nee CDC), they inherited excellent
mechanisms and manufacturing, such that most high capacity ST4xxx drives
are very good indeed. For a long time, the Wren Runner II (ST4767) was the
best drive available, bar none. The Swifts (older, mid-range ST2xxx drives)
are fine as well.

Seagate has applied knowledge learned from Imprimis to its recent drive
developments. Their high-speed 3.5" drives (ST14xx) and Elite (ST41xxx)
drives are some of the best, modern drives.

Personal experience has been OK. Two out of four ST277Ns that have been in
constant service on my BBS for the last six years have had to be pulled due
to accumulation of bad sectors (probably fixable with a low-level
reformat); I've also had an Imprimis 90Mb drive that's been very good for
the last four years.

Recommendations? For capacities of 0-250 Mb, go with Quantum. Over 250 Mb,
look to Seagate and pay special attention to the ST14xx series, the older
Wren Runner II, and the Elites. I've been known to recommend Maxtors as
well, but I prefer Quantum and Seagate.

(Wanders off mumbling something about I've worked with at least 12 ST1480Ns
in the last week -- know 'em quite well, I do.)

Be seeing you...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: lundby@pabst.comm.mot.com (Walter Lundby)
Subject: 8514, 8515 questions
Reply-To: lundby@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola LMPS Research, Schaumburg, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:55:28 GMT


I am considering picking up some "true blue" used crts, for the wife
and kids, and have the following questions:

8514 and 8515 both:
     - What is the dot pitch?  .31mm , .28 ???
     - What is the maximum resolution 1024 * 765
                                      1280 * 1024
                                       800 * 600
                                       600 * 480
                                       other?
     - Non Interlaced modes?
     

Which display is preferable and why?

Also:   for std vga:

        Is 8512 preferable to 8513 and why?
       

ALL:

Do they have "normal" VGA connectors (as in clone market)?

Is there a maximum number of colors that may be displayed on any
of these crts?


Thanks
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: fbruno@shrimp (F. Bruno)
Subject: Help: SCSI woes
Organization: Sanders Associates
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 13:10:28 GMT

Help needed:
 I just borrowed a 380 meg SCSI (micropolis 1684-7, number on PCB
connector 106582-03-4 Rev B14). It is set up for 1024 bytes/sector and
my adaptec can't read it! Is there a jumper setting to switch to 512/sector
or must I wait until he gets back from vacation to get a new one.
Please reply via email as soon as you can if you can answer my question.
Your help is appreciated.
				-Frank Bruno
				fbruno@ncavax.decnet.lockheed.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: jon@chopin.udel.edu (Jon Deutsch)
Subject: Write protected HARD DRIVE???
Organization: University of Delaware - What state is that in?
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 00:21:15 GMT

 My father called me up yesterday and told me that his "stacked"
 hard drive (c:) is *write protected*!  What is this?
 How can he remedy this situation?  Apparently, d: is still OK.

 Any info appreciated.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: tdbear@tandon.com (Tom Barrett)
Subject: Re: Recommendations on a 486 DX-50 vs DX2-66
Organization: Tandon Corporation, Moorpark, CA
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:38:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.063021.17161@bradley.bradley.edu> guru@camelot.bradley.edu (Jerry Whelan) writes:

>	I've heard this before, but it seems to me that with a localbus
>system, getting a 50Mhz machine will benefit you quite a bit because
>everything on the localbus will talk to the cpu 24% faster.

You've got it a little backwards... the 50MHz systems usually
operate using a 2x clock of 50MHz for the system AND for the
CPU, but the 33MHz systems use a 66MHz 2x clock for the system
and half of that for the CPU (this is because no one in their
right mind would drag 100MHz all over the system board).  What
this means is that for the 50MHz system, the local bus VGA and
memory is running at the same rate as a 25MHz system.
Therefore, the 33MHz system *might* be faster.  

The reason for the *might* is that 50MHz is perfect for 0ws
page hits to main memory with 80ns DRAMs.  With 66MHz, an
extra waitstate might have to be added if faster DRAMs are not
used, thus lowering the main memory throughput.  Knowledgable
consumers should ask the dealer for the system's main memory
throughput (from various benchmarks like Byte and PC Labs).

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: DTC 3280 SCSI controller, heard of it?
From: pwhite@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Patrick White)
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:37:54 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Urbana Design Center

I'm looking at a DTC3280 SCSI controller card for my PC. Anyone
had experience with this card? I would like to use it in a 25MHz
386SX machine. Any comments regarding this card would be much
appreciated. Thanks.

Pat White

Motorola - Core
1101 E. University Ave.
Urbana, IL 61801

pwhite@udc.urbana.mcd.mot.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: mdk@col.hp.com (Mark Keisling)
Subject: Re: Full timing diagrams for ISA bus.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:26:03 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

phil@adam.adelaide.edu.au (Phil Kernick) writes:
> I am trying to get the full timing diagrams and pinout for the ISA bus.  I
> have several sources, none of which entirely agree, and I need to know more
> than just the names of the signals on the pins (I need their *exact*
> functionality and relationship to other signals).
> 
> If you can recommend a book, or some other form of technical documentation,
> please send me some e-mail.
> 

I've found the following book to be very useful:

		AT BUS Design
		Edward Solari
		
		Annabooks
		12145 Alta Carmel Ct.
		Suite 250
		San Diego, CA 92128

		ISBN 0-929392-08-6

Mark.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: kling@white.toronto.edu (Kwan Ho J. Ling)
Subject: Help on Seagate ST-1239A
Organization: Univ. of Toronto,  Department of Computer Science
Date: 16 Aug 92 23:05:13 GMT

Do you know the correct setting of WRITE PRE-COMP and LANDZONE parameters for
ST-1239A?  I need these values to (re)setup the BIOS.

Also what is the WRITE PRE-COMP??

Thank-you

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University of Toronto
Canada
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: dlam@trlabs.CA (Dobby Lam)
Subject: Memory map for PC
Summary: Memory map for pc
Organization: TR Labs, Edmonton
Distribution: global
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 16:22:32 GMT

	I am trying to map a 32 kbyte device into the first 1M byte memory of the 
standard PC or AT memory.  The problem is that it seems the BIOS ROM and the top
360 kbyte RAM are occupying the same space.  If I disable the top 360 kbyte RAM, 
can I still access to the top memory without conflict with BIOS ROM.  If so, is 
there any other suitable memory space I can used without major re-organizing my
AT or going into the protected mode?  Or is there any simple complier can support
protected (real??) mode without costing my arm or leg?


	Thanks you for your time.

Dobby Lam
elm address:  dlam@trlabs.ca
   

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From: ks3l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kenton Shaver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.arch
Subject: Does a 487sx shut down the 486sx??
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:11:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.IeYSMJK00Voz8Vf8ZN
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Could anyone clear this up for me?
I read it in some magazine, but my ECE
friend is credulous.  Will my 487sx
just shut the 486sx down and take over?

Thanks for any replies.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: bp112@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven C. Lin)
Subject: Conner and Maxtor Hard Drive compatibility?
Reply-To: bp112@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven C. Lin)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 05:01:38 GMT


In the past, I have read that when hooking up 2 IDE drives, sometimes
problems occur because not all IDE drives are compatible to be used with
all other IDE drives.  Currently I have a Conner 120MB IDE drive (don't
have the model number handy, but I just got the computer in Feb. '92, so
it's a new one).  I am interested in adding a Maxtor 210 MB hard drive as
drive D in my system.  I called a mail-order vendor and he told me that
Conners and Maxtors do not get along well, that I should get either another
Conner or a Seagate (both more expensive!)...  Okay, I thought... Then I
was reading last month's PC Magazine, where it says that nearly all IDE
drives made in the last two years are completely compatible with each
other!  My question (obviously!) is, will my Conner 120MB work with a new
Maxtor 210 MB or not??? Any help would be appreciated; if the model numbers
are required, e-mail me, I can take my trusty old screwdriver out and find
out!!  Thanks a lot!

Steve Lin
bp112@cleveland.freenet.edu
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From: boyd@ivy.cs.unca.edu (Mark Boyd)
Subject: Re: 16550/82550/???
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:38:59 GMT

Both the 8250 and the 16650 have an 8 bit data path. The fact that the
16650 has an 16 byte FIFO just supports this: the FIFO is 8 bits ( one
byte ) wide 8^). Serial interfaces on PCs ( or anything else using
ASCII ) are inherently 8 bits wide at the bus.

	Mark