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From: John.Nagle@f4.n382.z1.fidonet.org (John Nagle)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: w/c bathrooms
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:02:07 GMT
Reply-To: John.Nagle@f4.n382.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:382/4 - River City MailBox, Austin TX

Index Number: 20864

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

Steve,
I remember seeing a post a while back about someone who wanted to
redo their bathroom and I think you answered but I don't remember
the name or the ECHO.
I came across this, which might help, It is a publication that is free
for the asking:
     WHEELCHAIR IN THE BATHROOM (1984)
      Paralyzed Veterans of America
      801 18th Street Northwest
      Washington, DC 20006

also
    WHEELCHAIR IN THE KITCHEN
    (SAME ADDRESS)
single copies are free.

If you remember who wanted this info please pass it on.

Later, John

 Jerry Brown is not related to James Brown!!

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From: Jane.Dygas@f5.n355.z1.fidonet.org (Jane Dygas)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: lipreading
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:00:09 GMT
Reply-To: Jane.Dygas@f5.n355.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:355/5 - The Mailman, Anchorage AK

Index Number: 20858

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 KK> When lipreading, the face is taken into account for cues, not
 KK> just the lips. I've found that something is lost when someone
 KK> puts on sunglasses and then talks to me.
             Hi Karen....
I know exactly what you mean..expression is VERY important..there are a
lot of people that can't or don't use expression in their
communications. I, on the other hand, sometimes feel like I'm making a
fool of myself...<G>...just comes naturally I guess.

 KK> It is said that only 40 percent of the sounds can be read on
 KK> the lips.  The other differences are sound differences only and
 KK> aren't visual.
 KK> Hope this helps a little.  Practicing in front of a mirror can
 KK> show you how they look, but the best thing is to have someone
 KK> talk to you silently.
 KK> TV is not really a good source to practice on, because of the
 KK> maddening camera angles and the constant changes with the
 KK> conversation sill going while the person talking is no longer
 KK> on screen!

I noticed that I began to depend on my ability to read lips at my work
after I took the sign courses....I worked in a very noisey place
(machine shop) and I almost got to the point that I was asking people to
look directly at me so I could "hear" what they said.
I can imagine the WORK it takes to sucessfully read lips...I can do a
little (with people who speak clearly and look directly at me, but BOY!
do I miss a lot!) My friend used to (as he called it) "turn off his
voice" for me and it really helped. Thanks for the information I really
appreciate it! Are there special names to the classes in which this is
taught?
                    take care====Jane======

... A tagline! A tagline! My kingdom for a tagline!

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From: Steve.Matzura@f203.n2603.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Matzura)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: JAILHOUSE BLINKS
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:06:56 GMT
Reply-To: Steve.Matzura@f203.n2603.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2603/203 - The Shop Mail Only, Flushing NY

Index Number: 21108

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 > A blind ***look-out man???

Sure, why not?  Who better to hear the sound of woo-woo-woo coming
down the block, or who better to know where to listen on his
scanner to hear talk about them coming???  Remind me to tell you
some time about my own little descent into crime with two sighted
friends.  They left me in the car with my mother's "Invalid Coach"
sticker in the front windshield so they wouldn't get towed away,
and we all had HT220 radios and I had the Bearcat 250 scanner
running off the car battery listening to the local fuzz ... I'm not
proud of this, mind you, but I'm just reporting on it to let you
know that, in fact, these things do happen.

Steve Matzura

Via: FrontDoor 2.02

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From: Bill.Baughn@f20.n112.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Baughn)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: phantom pain research
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:48:33 GMT
Reply-To: Bill.Baughn@f20.n112.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:112/20 - Medical Information, Jacksonville Fl

Index Number: 21025

[This is from the Amputee Conference]

CB>how do you mean that? you mean i have falsely related what the article
  >sez or that the article is false?

Chris,

You got the quote right but the statement made in the article is,
like most articles about amputees, based on conjecture and
antidotal stories.  I am presently in contact with more congenital
amputees than the author of this article has ever seen.  None have
ever experienced phantom sensation.  Some tell me that as children
they have tried to imagine what it would feel like if the limb were
present.  I suspect that this was the case in the example he
cited.

My wife Joyce, lost her hands when she was almost seven years old.
She has never experienced phantom pain or sensation.

You will notice that the author offered no footnote and in the
sidebar entitled "suggested reading" he lists articles that he
authored.  If this is science I am a Chinese Brain Surgeon and I
don't even speak the language.

CB>your participles are dangling. [grin]

Criticism of this kind is something up with which I will not put. }:->

Bill B

 * SLMR 2.1a * ...2 HOURS to bury a cat??  Well it wasn't dead!

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From: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Freeman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: blindfolding the sig
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:35:41 GMT
Reply-To: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/126 - Lawson & Reay, Vancouver WA

Index Number: 21187

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

In a message to All <27 Mar 92 12:12> Jude Dashiell wrote:

 JD> Incontinence has a much greater stigma
 JD> attached to it than blindness.
 JD> That's a hidden handicap in this country.

 JD> Jude

I do not dispute that incontinence is a terrible nuisance -- I've had
friends and relatives with the problem -- but am wondering if you have
any statistics to back your claim?  For example, what is the
unemployment rate among the incontinent?

BTW, I recently heard of a poll that claimed that blindness had slipped
to 4th (behind cancer and AIDS, among others) as the most-feared
entities in America today -- dunno where I heard it or whether it's true
or not.

-Mike [K7UIJ]-
... ** "I think my learning curve is a circle." -- David Andrews **
___
 * CRR QWK 1.40 *

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From: dashiell@nadc.navy.navy.mil (Jude DaShiell)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: cobol compiler
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:12:31 GMT
Reply-To: dashiell@nadc.navy.navy.mil (Jude DaShiell)
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 21199

David,

I remember the Utah cobol compiler sold by Ellis Computing Inc. of
Reno Nv worked well with speech.  I have a copy of it and it's not
shareware but cost me less than $100 to buy.  Unfortunately that
company is out of business though the Cobol Users group which is
located in Norcross, GA was supporting that compiler and probably
can supply you with it at little or no cost.  I don't have any more
address than that though.  I think that was the Nevada Cobol users
group of Norcross Ga but the only difference between the two
compilers is that Nevada works on cp/m systems and Utah works on
msdos systems and nevada makes executable .com files while Utah
doesn't make executables.  That group had written and compiled many
volumes of working code for the compilers in addition to what was
in the manuals.  The compiler got me through a Cobol 101 course in
college but I suspect it would have had a little trouble with the
2nd semester.  It mostly conforms to 1984 standards too.

The microfocus cobol compiler doesn't work with speech at all as
far as I can tell, and MVP cobol may work with speech but can't say
since I've not used it but have only heard about it.

Jude
From: Jim.Grimes@f27.n3615.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Grimes)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Closed Captioning
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:47:10 GMT
Reply-To: Jim.Grimes@f27.n3615.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3615/27 - TN Deafness I N BBS, Knoxville TN

Index Number: 21228

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

In your msg you asked for a technical description of closed captioning.
I'll offer you an explanation of how we do it in my station.
    Its a reletively simply process, script information is typed into a
computer.  This computer takes the digital information and insert it as
a series of "pulses" onto two specific lines of video that you do not
normally see in your TV signal.  We refer to this area as the "Vertical
Sync/Vertical Interval".  Within those two lines are a clock pulse which
enables the decoder, at home, to convert these signals to video
information which is inserted in viewed picture.

Hope this helps.  I'd be interested in learning your ideas on the
subject!

...Jim

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From: Jerry.Pickup@f1.n360.z1.fidonet.org (Jerry Pickup)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Quotas
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:05:22 GMT
Reply-To: Jerry.Pickup@f1.n360.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:360/1 - Augusta Forum, North Augusta SC

Index Number: 20874

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

In a message to Chris Northrup <21 Mar 92 19:10> Joe Chamberlain wrote:

 JC>     I am all for the objectives of the ADA, but we must remember
 JC> thant no one owes us a job.  We are the ones who must demonstrate
 JC> that we have the ability and the desire to do the same job as an

Joe, more pwds need to adopt this line of thinking.  All I ask of
anyone is just to give me a chance to prove myself.  I don't mind
using whatever means I need to to get my foot in the door and I
don't see anything wrong with that as long as I STAY there by
working my buns off!

		      -Jerry

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From: Darrell.Shandrow@f59.n114.z1.fidonet.org (Darrell Shandrow)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Survey
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:32:52 GMT
Reply-To: Darrell.Shandrow@f59.n114.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:114/59 - Bob's Place, Mesa AZ

Index Number: 20967

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

SM> Here are the questions:
SM> 1.  Who trained or taught you how to pour liquids--in particular, hot liquids,
SM> like tea, coffee, etc.--from one vessel (say, a coffeepot or teakettle) to
SM> another (say, a cup)?
I was taught at the state school for the blind.  I was later given new
information about the process through friends and suggestions from my
mother.

SM> 2.  What was the methodology used in your instruction (i.e., pour by weight,
SM> pour by sound, pour by estimation, use your finger, etc.)?
At the blind school, we were taught to use our finger.  However, other
sources showed me how to use the temperature to pour liquids in most
situations.

SM> 3.  Did you stick with that training or instruction afterward, or did you
SM> simply adhere to the taught techniques to get your instructor off your back,
SM> then you went off and did what you pleased?
In the blind school, I used the taught method.  However, now I use a
combination of the blind school method and the new one.  When there are
others around I use the cleaner (temperature) method.  However, if just
at home I use my finger detection method.

SM> 4.  What method are you using now?
As stated previously, a combination of both.

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From: John.Nagle@f4.n382.z1.fidonet.org (John Nagle)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Adarights
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:05:17 GMT
Reply-To: John.Nagle@f4.n382.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:382/4 - River City MailBox, Austin TX

Index Number: 21076

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

 JOHN
 JD> No way take this hot temper
 JD> explode at you. . But they got me out of that nursing home.
 I don't take it personal, but you did get out of a bad situation
 that a lot of people can't do on their own. I understand it takes
 alot of wheeling an dealing(no pun intended). I've seen a lot of
 clever schemes used to get out on your own.

 I've also seen alot of people who don't have the, (well to say it
 bluntly) smarts to think up ways out. They need help from others,
 and they need to understand that the only one who can really help
 them is themselves.

 I want to see a fed program(Nationwide) that is run at local levels
 to provide financial assistance to people who need physicial assistance
 to enable them to LIVE in the general community. Not just for people
 on medicaide/cal but set the limit to qualify high enough so  it
 does't discourage people from working. I'll never figure out how
 the goverment thinks people will go to work if they know that by
 going to work they loose what little help they are getting.

 Tell me what kind of business you are getting into, in reference
 to a post I saw from you about a non-profit getting all the grants
 you can for PWDs? I'd be interested in anything that makes money!!

 later, John

 I have a phone and an address for you.
 ADAPT of Texas
 1339 Lamar Square Dr. #B
 Austin. TX 78704
 512-442-0252 (State & Austin)

 I've known the guy who runs this org. for years he is good.

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From: Earl.Appleby@f429.n275.z1.fidonet.org (Earl Appleby)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Travel Resource
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:33:30 GMT
Reply-To: Earl.Appleby@f429.n275.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:275/429 - HandiNet B B S, Virginia Beach VA

Index Number: 20820

[This is from the AbleNews Conference]

ABLEnews Resource Report

                        Travel Tips

Helen Hecker learned the challenges someone with a disability might face
while traveling when her mother was immobilized by cancer of the spine.
The registered nurse decided to do something to make it a bit easier.

Hecker operates a mail-order book service, the Disability Bookshop in
Vancouver, Washington. She has also written a few books of her own,
including "Travel for the Disabled," "Directory of Travel Agencies for
the Disabled," and her latest work, "Directory of Accessible Van
Rentals."

Hecker also coordinates the Traveling Nurses' Network, a referral
service for travelers with disabilities who desire travel companions who
are M.D.s, R.N.s, and physical and occupational therapists.

                        For information:

                        P.O. Box 129
                        Vancouver, Washington 98666
                        1-206-694-2462
                        1-800-637-2256 (for orders)

 * SLMR 2.1 * ABLEnews...your resourceful friend.

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From: Jim.Jones@f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Jones)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Scientific american
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:49:34 GMT
Reply-To: Jim.Jones@f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/5109 - National Amputee Co, Dallas TX

Index Number: 20827

[This is from the Amputee Conference]

Bill,
  I got a copy of the article. Reading it I thought of you. I honestly feel
it has very little to offer. The way the article reads you can tell that
the author is not an amputee. He has never experienced the pain that I have.
You need to read the article. I feel sure Rob T. would even print a review
in the NTASG newsletter if you would write it. You would have a hayday!!!!
Tell Joyce hello.
                 JimJ

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From: Karen.Keil@p0.f809.n104.z1.fidonet.org (Karen Keil)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Prominent Deaf People, Who Are They?
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:56:39 GMT
Reply-To: Karen.Keil@p0.f809.n104.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/809.0 - Fantasy Mountain, Golden CO

Index Number: 21049

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Some more information for you....

One 'prominent' minority deaf person is a black football player
named Kenny Walker, who plays for the Denver Broncos.  He was
featured in a magazine, The Voice, Aug/Sept. 1991, p.16.  Also,
several articles in my local paper appeared on him, which I saved.

The book, Deafness, by David Wright, has the information on deaf
people and how people treated/educated them in Chapter 10.  Even
though it's mostly European history, it's broad enough to include
other world cultures.  He said that information before the last few
centuries is scanty.

Another source of information you might want to explore is the
Gaullaudet Encyclopedia of Deaf People and Deafness, by John Van
Cleve, editor.  It's a three volume set of the 'first comprehensive
collection of research and information on deaf people and
deafness....it cover such topics such as....biographical accounts of
historic figures.'  You may be able to find this in a library.  It's
expensive...$330.00....hence my suggestion to check the
library...that's where I've seen it.

Hope this helps.

Karen.

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From: 34AEJ7D%CMUVM.BITNET@VM1.nodak.edu (Bill Gorman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Guide dogs in Hawaii
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:12:22 GMT
Reply-To: 34AEJ7D%CMUVM.BITNET@VM1.nodak.edu (Bill Gorman)
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 21016

Someone recently claimed  that  Hawaii  refuses entry to  mainland
guide dogs.  If this is true,  I suspect that the State of Hawaii
is presently the biggest sitting  target   for  some   really
devastating  ADA   complaint  litigation imaginable.  Perhaps
this  is  a  pre-ADA policy  that  they  will  now  find
untenable?

Sez me,

W. K. (Bill) Gorman
From: Leti.Labell@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Leti Labell)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: FINGERSPELLING FONT FOR PRINT SHOP
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:48:16 GMT
Reply-To: Leti.Labell@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:109/421 - Twilight Clone Mac, Rockville MD

Index Number: 21233

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

I would like info on the fingerspelling font for the Macintosh.  I
had one a few years ago, but it didn't work quite right on my
machine - maybe this one will work better (also I have a better
machine now.)

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From: Joel.Lefkowitz@f54.n135.z1.fidonet.org (Joel Lefkowitz)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Disc Disease
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:51:05 GMT
Reply-To: Joel.Lefkowitz@f54.n135.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:135/54 - Ramblin' Roots, Miami FL

Index Number: 21223

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

I also have degenerative disc disease. I saw an old doctor about 5
years ago, who sent me for X-Rays and an MRI. He sat me down in his
office and gave me some exercises. He told me that as long as I
exercise my back, and formed stronger muscles, then I would have no
problem. Now my back is the only area on my body that doesn't
hurt.

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From: Joe.Chamberlain@p1.f175.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chamberlain)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Scs And What To Do About
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:50:49 GMT
Reply-To: Joe.Chamberlain@p1.f175.n150.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:150/175.1 - Busted Flush BBS, New Castle DE

Index Number: 21243

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

In a message to Al Savoy <09 Apr 92 15:17> Scott Gabel wrote:

 SG> Does corn starch work at all?

Only when combined with a program that keeps you clean and dry.
Keeping dry is the hard part.  I believe it was Allison that
suggested frequent changes of cotton clothes.  This works great and
is a course of action I followed while living in high humidity
Florida.

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From: Steve.Matzura@f203.n2603.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Matzura)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: nls tb update.
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:24:11 GMT
Reply-To: Steve.Matzura@f203.n2603.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2603/203 - The Shop Mail Only, Flushing NY

Index Number: 21136

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 > squawk loudly if they drop cassettes.  Compact disks are *not*
 > portable.  You
 > can't drop a hand-full in to your purse, or tote bag, or whatever.

Cubic inch for cubic inch, CDs are more compact than cassettes.
You don't need those awful jewel-boxes, just a cardboard holder,
one for each disk, will do.  I receive an eight-CD set at my office
every month that comes in a carrying folder that's smaller than a
magazine.  That's eight discs, oodles and oodles of hours of
playing time on them!

 > You can't
 > ppack a walkman-sized unit in to the same receptical and be able to
 > "read"
 > where ever you go.

Then you haven't seen the portable CD players.  They're just a
little thicker than that jewel-box I mentioned above.

Steve Matzura

Via: FrontDoor 2.02

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From: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Tanner)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: IBM Screen Reader Support
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:33:09 GMT
Reply-To: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/168 - Braille Bank BBS, Pittsburgh PA

Index Number: 21175

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

If I understood correctly from the latest Screen Reader Newsletter,
IBM is no longer providing direct support of their Screen Reader
speech software.  What do you know about this, and is this going to
be good or bad for the end user?

        D. T.

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From: Leti.Labell@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Leti Labell)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: DEAFNESS
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:56:27 GMT
Reply-To: Leti.Labell@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:109/421 - Twilight Clone Mac, Rockville MD

Index Number: 21048

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

In your message to ANN STALNAKER you say:
>  When one girl asked me if I'm sorry I'm
> deaf, I looked at her straight in the eye and said "No. I like
> myself for who I am."

I'm curious.  By that statement do you mean that if  you had a
choice between hearing and being deaf, you would choose being
deaf?  If so, I find that hard to understand.  I like MYSELF for
who I am, but I certainly wish that I had good knees and could
climb stairs like other people, or that I had eyesight as good as
other people, and I DO feel sorry for myself sometimes.

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