From: 6500cws@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Christopher Wade Skinner)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: I'm not your man...
Date: 16 Apr 92 02:27:58 GMT

In article <gea9iB5w164w@Nitro.CtEdge.COM> djk@Nitro.CtEdge.COM starts
retracting:

>I think the direct statement 'keep it to yourself you #!$%#$%^ and
>keep it off of soc.motss or die you #$@%^$' is pretty telling and
>direct - don't you?

I didn't mean *I* wanted proof.  I'm not the Keegster.  I meant that
if I were a govt' enforcement agency I'd want proof - although
some here seem to think I'm an institute.  Why post anti-gay bullshit
to soc.motss if you know that you'll be flamed hard for it?  Oh, and
thanks for expurgating your post, Daniel, we know you never use
terms like "fucking fags," or "pooter-pumpers."

>I do not think that speaking the truth is 'working to harm'
>others..

And what truth are you speaking, Daniel?

>As for gay teachers..? - I could care less as long
>as they are not preaching gay ethics to my child.. 

What's a gay ethic, Daniel?  That gayness isn't necessarily
'unnatural'?  That some people are gay, and not unhappy about it?

>> What 'hit squad'?  Do you or do you not favor civil rights for gay
>> people?  If not, then you can certainly be called a bigot.

>Favor 'civil rights'....? If you mean they have equal rights with
>mine... Sure! - Nothing wrong with that at all!!!

And here, both you and punk have started qualifying.  I take this to
mean that gays should not be discrimiated against in jobs or housing,
that sodomy laws still on the books should be repealed, and that gay
marriage should be recognized?  Is that what you are saying?

> - If you mean
>they get MORE rights to protection, services, access to public or
>private resources etc.. Or if you mean that gays get any special
>treatment in employment or education related areas... Absolutely
>NOT. 

See above.  I'm as opposed to quotas, when they exist, as I suspect
you are.

>> What
>> garbage in the 50's are you talking about?  Are you seriously
>> trying to equate gay activism with McCarthyism?  If so, you'd
>> better go read your history.  I don't see anyone losing jobs,
>> being blacklisted, or committing suicide because of gay activism
>> or gay newsgroups.

>I think you know what I mean.. It is very one sided around here.
>Most valid viewpoints are not afraid of opposition...

But is calling someone perverted, disgusting, immoral, and a disease
carrier *valid opposition* to a view point?  Is accusing gay parents
of stealing children and sub-adaquecy *valid*?  Your kind of oppostion
has no force of logic.  And answer my question about McCarthyism,
Daniel, its going begging.

>Speak out
>as I do and risk all kinds of 'fun' and games regarding your
>network access, newsfeed, sysadm.. I have had a few dozen neat
>little letters come in here to the postmaster demanding that I
>be 'reprimanded' or 'disciplined' - complete with creatively
>edited postings as 'evidence'.......

That's not only a shame, its bad politics.  I don't support it,
and I've said so before.  Only Cheesy Breadstick is sophistic
enough to call me the thought police.

>-djk

>--- Daniel J. Karnes / WA6NDT --------------------------------------

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