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From: David Douglas McCallum <kcjonz@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: My Mind's Got A Mind Of It's Own lyric corrections & chords
Reply-To: kcjonz@wam.umd.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 02:07:51 GMT


Here's another one I have been hooked on lately...I just got
a tape with a great-sounding version of this from the second
Potrtsmouth show at the start of the year. Mine from the tree
has an obnoxious high frequency on it. Is this a common problem
with tapes of that show? And does anybody have tapes from the
audience that could be mistaken for 'boards? I'd also LOVE a
better sounding versin of that first NICU...Anyways...

My Mind's Got a Mind of It's Own:
 
chorus: My mind's got a mind of its own
        It takes me out a-walkin' when I'd rather stay at home
        It takes me out to parties when I'd rather be alone
        My mind's got a mind of its own
 
I've been doing things I thought I'd never do
I've been getting into trouble without ever meaning to
I no sooner settle down when I'm right back up again
I feel just like a leaf out in the wind
 
chorus
 
I seem to forget half the things I start
I try to build a house and then I tear the place apart
I freeze myself on fire and then I'd burn myself on ice
I canUt count to one without thinking twice
 
chorus
 
I tell myself to do the things I should
And then I get to thinkin' that them things ain't any good
I tell myself the truth but I know I'm lying like a snake
You can't walk on water at the bottom of a lake
 
chorus
 
-----
The chords for this one go:
 
Intro: G D G
   G            D           G
My mind's got a mind of its own
   C                               G
It takes me out a-walkin' when I'd rather stay at home
   C                                G
It takes me out to parties when I'd rather be alone
   D                        G
My mind's got a mind of its own
 
          G
I've been doing things I thought I'd never do
                                       D
I've been getting into trouble without ever meaning to
     G             G7            C
I no sooner settle down when I'm right back up again
  G                D               G
I feel just like a leaf out in the wind

Enjoy! DMcC
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Jay Flemma <jflemma@mailbox.syr.edu>
Subject: ALIEN HOSTAGE CRISIS UPDATE
Reply-To: jflemma@mailbox.syr.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:51:17 GMT

       ...The ticket materialized in myhand as Jeff M. beamed it aboard
   from his transmat.  The alien emporer (really Sinead O'Connor for those
    of you who missed our last episode)  smiled greedily and said...
      "we are not thru with you yet...we demand Barrymore Theatre Tapes!!!!!"

     ...just kidding...;-)

    I really ESCAPED (Boldly) when the ship was attacked by Skelatal
   men from Saturn, (possibly another Phish song in the interplanatary
    being cycle?)  ;-)  %-) (this last one means user is freaking!)

     As I piloted the escape craft I stole in the  battle, I spotted an
    old fashioned sleigh, and jumped aboard.
       "Lucky thing for you today is the day I test drive, sonny".......

     Happy Holidays to all.......

     ...from the land where the oceans freeze...
              (not frenzy, not Firenze)
                     Jay
From: jenkins@helios.phy.ohiou.edu (Mike Jenkins)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Representing thy Phish
Date: 2 Jan 93 16:24:31 GMT
Organization: Ohio University ASCGL, Athens

In article <1992Dec31.214858.28601@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> Adam.Levin@lambada.oit.unc.edu writes:
>Here's a tough one. On one of the other lists I'm on we're compiling a
>tape of music that members like. So I want to submit a song by Phish that is 
>the most representitive of their profound talent. I was thinking of "Run Like
>an Antelope", but the problem is, one of the guidelines is that the song must
>be under eight minutes, which is a real bummer. Seeing as it's just us
>die-hards here right now, let's here what y'all think.
>
>-Adam
>

Adam,
	How about "All Things Reconsidered".  That would give the listeners
not only an idead of how the band plays, but would give them a familiar, 
baseline, song from which they could make comparisons and maybe get an idea
of there twisted logic :-)

If you just wast a good, original jam, though, I would recommend Guelah
Papyrus -- defineitely one of my favorites, and one of their oldest and
most polished songs.

Hope this helps.  Let us know what you decided on
jenkins@helios.phy.ohiou.edu
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From: phisher@aol.com
Subject: (none)
Reply-To: phisher@aol.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 04:18:40 GMT

From root Wed Dec 23 23:15:49 1992
From: phisher@aol.com
X-Mailer: America Online Mailer
To: phish@fuggles.acc.virginia.edu
Subject: Holidays
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 23:15:49 EST

Sorry if this is a waste of bandwidth, but...

I just wanted to wish my fellow-glides (or whatever we are) a very happy
holidays.  I hope to see you all at NYE (if I get a ride), and if not, I will
send my ticket with someone, so one of you ticketless Phishers will get in.

Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good set list at New Year's.

-Zach
From: jamie@access.digex.com (James Treworgy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re:  Language discussion
Date: 21 Dec 1992 18:55:02 GMT
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

In article <1992Dec16.224201.14051@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> fromm@rock.enet.dec.com writes:
>David "ZZYZX" Steinberg writes:
>
>|you're either on the bus or off the bus.  Talk about elitism...
>
>i don't think this is elitist; there's nothing wrong with being off the bus, 
>but you're either on the bus, or off the bus

I think it's elitist.  Just because it refers to the pranksters, or a "cool"
group of people or whatever, doesn't change the fact that it's talking
about a clique and either you are in it or you are not in it.  Any group
which has "membership" (on or off) is elitist, since by definition you need
some qualification (being a merry prankster, taking acid, checking out
of society) to be a member.  

I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing.  That's how life is-- you have
a bunch of people who are your friends.  They have interests in common
with you.  You aren't friends (doesn't mean aren't friendly) with people
who don't have a lot in common with you.  But you of course are a lot
more psyched to be places, and with people, you bond with.  But it is
the differences between people and different interests and beliefs
and exclusionary attidutes (the bad side of it) that cause most of the
world's problems.  Heavy, huh? Maybe I should write a paper... oh I graduated
already! Shit! Time to go back to school :-)

So to tie all this in with Phish (I had to justify this post somehow!)
Phish is kind of a clique.  The phish net is.  We all like to talk
about phish and phishy stuff so we all read and write to the net, but
perhaps we are on occasion a wee bit unforgiving of people who are new
and are just learning about this whole subculture which we are very
familiar with, but are really psyched about it and want to get
involved.  I think that should be avoided, the "bus o' phish" is big
enough for everyone who wants to get on.

That's my philosophical ramble for the month. See y'all at the year's end!

-- jamie
-- 
James A. Treworgy
jamie@access.digex.com
From: darkmage@toz.buffalo.ny.us (Dark Mage)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: wow...
Date: 23 Dec 92 04:52:43 GMT
Organization: The Tower of Zot - (716)8338-616


The feed was down to the bbs I use and then my computer was in the shop 
so I was figuring I'd miss tons of messages(the bbs only keeps the last 
150)  but instead I found only 87 new messages after several days...

I hopy all you people enjoy new haven and new years... I've gotta work 
every day except new years day starting after christmas until february.

I like the language!  I think it will get people more interested in the 
band cuz they'll want to get tapes so they can hear instructions and 
stuff.  I'd hate for Phish to be swamped with people who just have 1 or 2 
of their cd's and don't trade tapes at all...


Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy!
Set the gearshift for the high gear of your soul
DM
From: sobelman@cco.caltech.edu (Steven M. Sobelman )
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: PEOPLE magazine: PON "Worst of Song"
Date: 31 Dec 1992 02:09:53 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu

tas@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Tom Sprott) writes:

>I have to agree with some of what was said in the People review.
>The lyrics are a real problem for me (though the music is worth
>it), and for others I've introduced to Phish, a total block.  I'm
>not sure why they bother writing what seems to me like 80 or 90 
>percent nonsense.

Perhaps it is because I only started listening to Phish a few months ago
(after reading about them in Rolling Stone and Blues Traveler liner notes),
but what got me instatnly hooked on them was the combination of excellent
instrumentals with the wacky lyrics (on PON).  Yeah, a lot of it is
nonsensical, but it's nonsensical in a way that, for lack of a better 
expression, I understand.  Maybe it's the same thing with you and Dylan.
Personally, I was reminded of another of my favorite groups (also with great
instrumentals and weird lyrics), Steely Dan.  Compare Bodhisattva, Aja,
Pretzel Logic, etc.

>The difference is that Dylan lyrics often seem enigmatic
>in a creative way, Phish lyrics leave me feeling rather burned.

As my father says, that's what makes horse races.

>I mean really.  "Control for smilers can't be bought/ The solar 
>garlic starts to rot/ Was it for this my life I sought?/ Maybe
>so and maybe not" just doesn't mean anything.

What does Jabberwocky mean?  Who knows, but it's a great poem.  If you want
meaning, try Chalk Dust Torture.

I hope you all have a terrific NYE.  I expect many posts and grovels (pre-grovel
right here in fact) on Friday and Saturday.


Steve
From: hellers@cs.wisc.edu (Joe Hellerstein)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Annual Obits (was Re: Cadence Poll/"Best of 92")
Date: 31 Dec 92 05:23:58 GMT
	<1992Dec30.133238.2462@vixvax.mgi.com>
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin @ Madison, CS Dept.

In article <1992Dec30.133238.2462@vixvax.mgi.com> mcnamara@vixvax.mgi.com writes:

>   On a slightly morbid tone, we
>   lost George Adams, June Tyson, Ed Blackwell, Art Blakey, and Charles 
>   Tyler this year.  What names are missing from this list?

Well, Art Blakey doesn't belong on it.  I remember well that he died
some time between fall '90 and fall '91, definitely before '92.

Joe Hellerstein
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From: jgthomas@crchh420.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (John Thomas)
Subject: Re: Jazz Composers Guild
Reply-To: John Thomas <jgthomas@bnr.ca>              
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 00:54:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.175422.889@telesciences.com>, jbulyk@telesciences.com (Jerry E. Bulyk) writes:
|> 
|> Reading through the liner notes on some of these XYZ ESP reissues,
|> I came across references to the Jazz Composers Guild and their
|> "October Revolution" of 1964.  The only other place I have heard
|> of the JCG was in rlc's Sun Ra discography under FEATURING PHAROAH 
|> SANDERS AND BLACK HAROLD [Saturn IHNY 165] recorded 6/15/64.
|> 
|> Can someone fill-in who were the players who comprised the Jazz
|> Composers Guild, and what, if any, sessions were ever recorded by 
|> this collective? What was their mandate, and did they eventually 
|> reform as the Jazz Composers Orchestra Association (JCOA) in 1968?
|> - the first known record by the JCOA being the Cecil co-led date 
|> "The Jazz Composer's Orchestra" [JCOA 1001/2 841 124-2].
|> There is too big a gap between the two dates to be explained, unless
|> they went under all to fast.
|> 
|> 
|> 	- jerry

Try finding a copy of Val Wilmer's book AS SERIOUS AS YOUR LIFE.  I believe
she talks about the Guild in there.  I don't have a copy at hand but
you should be able to get it fairly easily as I think it has been 
reissued again (or try the library, that's where I originally got it).
From: bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: B.B. King
Date: 21 Dec 92 18:10:16 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: pismo.sw.stratus.com

>>In article <1992Dec18.183051.12427@olaf.wellesley.edu> kwolters@fred.wellesley.edu (Keith Wolters) writes:
>Hi.  I'm looking for reccommendations on the first BB King CD I should
>get.  I've seen many "Best of" CDs but figured there must be some
>which are better than others.  Thanks.

I don't know if it's out on CD, but my absolute favorite BB King album is
"Indianola Mississippi Seeds".  If it is out on CD, I don't know if the
digitized version could live up to the album, but as far as the music
goes, it's really fantastic.

Bruce 


-- 
Bruce Dumes			| "Bruce is too obsessed with the Beatles"   |
Stratus Computer, Inc.		|   --comment on report card from Spring '64 |
bad@sw.stratus.com              
508-460-2816                    
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From: jte@beefheart.cc.columbia.edu (Jeff Eldredge)
Subject: Re: Ellington suggestions
Reply-To: jte@beefheart.cc.columbia.edu
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:46:52 GMT

No one's collection should be lacking the following:

Money Jungle -- Duke Ellington, Charles Mingus, and Max Roach

This would probably be my single desert island disk, if I had to pick one.  

This recording really gives you a chance to hear Duke play some heavy shit  
on the piano.  And you can guess how Mingus and Roach are.  The  
combination works beautifully.  All Ellington compositions.    

Miles Davis once panned a selection from this recording in a Blindfold  
Test.  When they told him who it was, he responded "What's Duke doing  
playing with Mingus?  This is terrible."  I have great respect for Miles  
as a musician, composer, and curator of great bands.  However, I don't  
take much stock in his abilities as a critic.

Jeff Eldredge
From: saul+@pitt.edu (Alan B Saul)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: clarinetist Perry Robinson
Date: 23 Dec 92 07:33:54 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


One other place Perry has been:
the Brubeck family band, with Darius, Chris, and Dan as well as a few
others I forget (and of course Dave).

I heard them a couple times, most memorably in Oakland CA after
getting in free eventually. The highlight may have been when Perry
withdrew about 40 feet of colorful streamers from his mouth.

A multitalent indeed. Dolphy couldn't even do that.


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From: ssivakum@ptdcs2.intel.com (Sam Sivakumar)
Subject: A jazz newbie requests listening material
Organization: Intel Corporation -- Aloha, Oregon
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 02:58:18 GMT

Hi folks,
	  I am just beginning to discover jazz (which in retrospect is kinda
surprising to me, since I have had fairly rigorous training in another 
artform with a rich improvisational technique, South Indian classical music),
but anyway, I am looking for what the net considers a good place to start
as far as straight-up jazz (read: not fusion) is concerned.
	In particular, I am looking for the following:

1.  What are the essential CDs by the masters (Ellington, Monk, Armstrong,
Coltrane, etc. etc.) that any jazz lover must listen to?
2.  Who are the contemporary jazz musicians and what are some good recordings
that I can listen to?
3.  What recordings should an Ella Fitzgerald collection comprise of?

	I would very much appreciate response by e-mail only.  I apologise
if this is a frequently asked request, but obviously an issue so fraught 
with personal likes and dislikes does not have a place in the FAQ (which as
a good net.citizen, I dutifully read before making this posting ).  



-- 
Sam Sivakumar		    |  Intel's very own lithography dude, 
ssivakum@ptdcs5.intel.com   |  Speakin' for himself, that's for sure!
PTD, Aloha, OR              |
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: jay@unlv.edu (Jay Nietling)
Subject: Re: Danny Gatton: album info wanted
Organization: unlv cs
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 09:33:24 GMT

In article <1hspppINN1jl@hp-col.col.hp.com> rstern@col.hp.com (Richard Stern) writes:
>I've been searching for Danny Gatton's New York Stories, and none of the
>local record stores have been able to find it.  I know it's on Blue Note,
>but I don't know the #.  If you have the #, could you e-mail it to me.
>
>[]
>
>Richard Stern
>rstern@col.hp.com

the cd i have here says bluenote cdp 7 98959 2

-jay
jay@cs.unlv.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: millerje@CS.ColoState.EDU (Jeff Miller)
Subject: Re: Japanese Miles Davis
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 04:29:38 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

While we're on the subject, how is the complete 1960 Miles Concert with
Sonny Stitt and John Coltrane.  I saw a store with it (it's 4 discs) for
$40.00.  Is this is really good concert?  Thanks...

-- 
 _____________________________________________________________________________
|                                                                             |
| "Nuke the unborn gay whales!" |  millerje@cs.colostate.edu  |  Jeff Miller  |
|_____________________________________________________________________________|
From: rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: On Drugs, Bebop and The Wire
Date: 31 Dec 92 19:29:10 GMT
	<SMEHTA.92Dec30164254@kwela.nynexst.com>
	<RSHAPIRO.92Dec31112028@kariba.bbn.com>
	<1992Dec31.170536.26543@sarah.albany.edu>
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: kariba.bbn.com
In-reply-to: rstump@itchy.geog.albany.edu's message of Thu, 31 Dec 92 17:05:36 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.170536.26543@sarah.albany.edu> rstump@itchy.geog.albany.edu (Roger Stump) writes:
   Taking the argument back to the original
   issue, why have so many jazz musicians used narcotics despite what they
   know about the ill effects of doing so? 


The key word here is "despite". If this behavior occurs *despite*
common knowledge that it's dangerous, then focusing on the danger is
not likely to yield any information about the reasons for the
behavior. This leads back to the my earlier conclusion: it makes no
sense to be outraged by an article which is attempting to examine the
reasons for behavior that everybody knows is dangerous, simply because
the article doesn't dwell on, or pass moral judgement on, this danger.
The physiological dangers are specificially *not* relevant to
understanding the cause of the behavior. Morality may be relevant, but
only in the sense that a counter-culture typically defines some
aspects of its morality in opposition to conventional morality.
Certainly counter-culture drug use would seem to fit this paradigm.

Either way, espressions of conventional moral outrage are pointless at
best, and downright destructive if the effect is to silence less
moralistic analysis. It's the last point that really worries me: if
the jazz press is unable to publish articles like this without
generating moral outrage among its readers, how will we *ever* gain in
our understanding of this very important issue?
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: smehta@kwela.nynexst.com (Sandeep Mehta)
Subject: Re: On Drugs, Bebop and The Wire
Reply-To: smehta@nynexst.com
Organization: Speech Technology, AI Lab, NYNEX S&T Inc, White Plains, NY
	<RSHAPIRO.92Dec29154328@kariba.bbn.com>
	<1992Dec29.211926.11248@pony.Ingres.COM>
	<SMEHTA.92Dec30115921@kwela.nynexst.com>
	<HELLERS.92Dec30122327@cleo.cs.wisc.edu>
Date: 30 Dec 92 14:35:34


> hellers@cs.wisc.edu (Joe Hellerstein) writes:b

> While we're debunking the myths about drugs and jazz, I have heard
> people claim that steady heroin use increases your lung capacity.
> Coltrane was given as a case in point, the myth being that some of his
> solos simply could not be played by a person who had remained clean
> all their life.  Anybody got the medical bottom line on this?

Dunno about medical bottom lines :), but from Simpkins' biography of
Coltrane it seemed fairly clear to me that, if anything, Coltrane
found his earlier drug habit and alcoholism to be an impediment. In
addition, being deeply religious he found his dependency on
drugs/alcohol to contradict his beliefs and he struggled mentally and
physically to kick his habits while continually battling various
personal demons, social suppression and hostile criticism that he
faced.

If there is anything that made Coltrane produce those incredible
solos it was his phenomenal skill on both saxophones acquired by
hours and hours of practice each day. He would often fall sleep on
the couch with the horn in his mouth. Sometimes he hadn't finished
saying what he wanted to and would simply walk off stage at the end
of the set and continue playing by himself in the dressing room for
another half hour.

Very few people, in Coltrane's time, really understood that Coltrane
was working on his ideas every night on the stage and he wouldn't
stop until he thought he'd said it all. One person who did understand
was pianist Zita Carno and there are lengthy excerpts from her
writings in Simpkins' book which are well worth reading.

/sandeep
--
smehta@nynexst.com
--
        "This space of time is organized. We need not fear these
	 silences, -- we may love them." -- John Cage, Silences, 1961.
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