HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Re: Macintonsh files with resource forks under 3.0
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 06:35:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.094622.1598@xenon.stgt.sub.org> Ingo Feulner  
<alf@xenon.stgt.sub.org> writes:
> Is there any way to work with such files?
> Currently, only files with data forks are accessible.
> 

Sadly, no. You can still use FloppyWorks from DIT however.

According to NeXT it was a design decision based on UNIX file system  
limitations. There are plans to have both forks available in future  
NeXTSTEP releases which contain enhanced file systems.

Gordon
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From: woo@ornl.gov(John W. Wooten)
Subject: Re: How do I enable 10baseT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 12:44:31 GMT

In article <BuFMw1.3GB.2@cs.cmu.edu> rwb@alexander.VI.RI.CMU.EDU  
(Robert Berger) writes:
> We sent one of our stations to a site that uses 10baseT networking. I  
have
> only used thinnet, and they tell me the station did not recognize  
their
> 10baseT net.
> 
> Is there some magic incantation I have to do to switch the machine
> from thinnet to 10baseT? Or was it supposed to automatically detect
> the 10BaseT?
> 
> If I use 10BaseT am I supposed to terminate the thinnet BNC  
connector?

I can't comment for 3.0 yet, but I ran on thick wire ethernet, switched  
to thin wire, moved to a new building with 10base T, plug and play!
Running on 10base T as we speak.

If you don't have 10base T connector, there are thin to 10baseT  
adaptors available in catalogs, I believe.

-----------------
J. W. Wooten
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From: rutherford@ccsua.ctstateu.edu
Subject: sendmail guides
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 14:19:57 GMT

I recently connected my Next to our campus ethernet (mainly Vaxes) and am
not having much luck receiving mail addressed to my username
at the Next's domain name.  I can send mail to other systems
without problems.  Can anyone point me to a good guide to
configuring Sendmail (I guess) to receive mail and
coexist with the Vax smtp mailer?

VAXmail rutherford@ccsu.ctstateu.edu
Nextmail ? john@next1.csulib.ctstateu.edu

Thanks
From: malexand@aludra.usc.edu (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Integrating NeXT and Novell with 3.0.
Date: 13 Sep 1992 12:03:10 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Would the Netware-Requestor allow mounts via a serial connection to a 
Netware >remote bridge<?

Cheers,

**************************************************************************
*  Michael F. Alexander               University of Southern California  *
*  --------------------               Ma-Bel-Network:    (213) 955-0069  *
*  MVS:       malexan@mvsa.usc.edu    ---------------------------------  *
*  VM-Bitnet: malexand@uscvm.bitnet     "It's a window system named X,   *
*  UNIX:      malexand@chaph.usc.edu     not a system named X Window"    *
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From: gary@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie)
Subject: 3.0 SimpleNetworkStarter
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 04:35:54 GMT

I've upgraded a machine to 3.0, then decided that I wanted to make it a  
netinfo server (it was previously standalone, but connected to the net).

I disconnected the network, rebooted, then ran SimpleNetworkStarter.   
Clicked on the "become a netinfo server" (or whatever it says), then  
clicked continue.

Things seem OK until after the point where it prompts for the password for  
adding new machines.  After that the program instantly dies (no panels  
requesting that the machine be reconnected to the network, as the online  
manual suggests).

Are these panels supposed to appear, or is the documentation already out  
of date?

After this, I haven't been able to get the machine past the "Unable to  
find parent netinfo server..." bottleneck, despite rebooting 15 or 20  
times.  There is also no sign of the root domain in /etc/netinfo having  
been created.

I was able to make the machine back into a standalone using  
SimpleNetworkStarter...

Anyone have any ideas what's going on?

Gary Ritchie
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From: Mark-Tarbell@suite.com
Subject: Re: NeXT Remote Power Up/Down?
Reply-To: suite!tarbell@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Suite Software, Anaheim CA.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 00:17:06 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.030034.1793@parsec.mixcom.com>  
alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart) writes:

[ stuff about writing an "Alert" panel to thw workspace deleted ]

> > Note that you can't do this under 3.0. Enjoy it while you can.
> 
> But you could hack your own. After all this "seems" to be a fairly
> easy thing to do, 10 sec. code:

[ code deleted ]

Under 3.0 it appears that only the owner of the workspace can write to it.  
I think you'll get something like:

DPS client library error: Could not form connection, host local host

..even if running as root, unless Public Window Server is set.
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From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Subject: Chances of a 3.1 (was: Re: 3.0 SimpleNetworkStarter)
Reply-To: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 17:41:30 GMT

Simson L. Garfinkel writes
> It's a new app.  Lots of bugs.  See the release notes.

And someone said there probably wouldn't be a 3.1...somehow, I don't think  
so.  What other apps are buggy?  Is there a definate chance or need for  
3.1 or are there workarounds that NeXT is telling it's users to use  
instead?

Thanks.
--
-- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
-- no NeXTmail please
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From: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU ()
Subject: Integrating NeXT and Novell with 3.0.
Originator: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:20:55 GMT


I have a colleague who is thinking about buying a NeXTStation.

However, he wants to know whether he will be able to connect
it to a network at an institute in Germany that he may eventually
return to (no sooner than a year from now). The institute uses a
Novell network, with an Arcnet interface, whatever that is.

Here is a description from someone at the institute:

  The network at our institute uses a so-called Arcnet interface
  to connect the server with the workstations, with simple
  telephone wires and standard U.S. telephone plugs.

Can anyone tell me what will be involved in connecting the
NeXTStation to the network, under NeXTStep 3.0?

Feel free to ask for more information. I don't know more, but
I can pass on such requests.

Thanks a million.

Tim
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From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Subject: Re: changing login tiff --- where is it in 3.0 ?
Reply-To: bwebster@pages.com
Organization: Banzai Research Institute
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:46:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.225655.21121@scott.skidmore.edu>  
tholland@pars.skidmore.edu (Anthony Holland) writes:
> We just received our new Color Turbo NeXT and I want to change the login  
> tiff to include its name....anybody know where the loging tiff has moved  
> to ?  It's not in /usr/lib/nextstep/nextlogin.tiff where it used to be.
> 

Look in /usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow.app/English.lproj/nextlogin.tiff.

Bruce F. Webster
CTO, Pages Software Inc.
bwebster@pages.com
#import <pages/disclaimer.h>
From: rcc@next1.math.pitt.edu (robert cyphers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: 'nu -A' question
Keywords: nu
Date: 5 Sep 92 14:54:31 GMT

I want to call the command
  nu -A  name realname uid gid shell pwd home reuse mh domain
to install new users from inside a program.

My problem is:

Can I get 'nu -A' to accept "*" as a password with the usual meaning,
i.e. login disabled?

Also, should 'reuse' and 'mh' be N/Y or 0/1?

Thanks.
Robert C Cyphers
rcc@next1.math.pitt.edu
From: wakew@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (William Wake)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Outgoing mail has extra "name" in it
Keywords: sendmail
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:02:10 GMT
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA


The problem was in my sendmail.cf file.  The solution is to change
the "official host name" in /etc/sendmail/sendmail.mailhost.cf from
"Dj$?m$w.$m|$w$." to "Dj$w" and make sure that sendmail.cf is linked to
sendmail.mailhost.cf.

Thanks to Gregory Lampshire, Pierce Cantrell, and Garance A. Drosehn for
their quick help.

Regards,
	Bill Wake
	wakew@csgrad.cs.vt.edu


In article <3430@creatures.cs.vt.edu> wakew@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (William Wake) writes:
>The address is messed up on outgoing mail from my system.
>It should be
>	Bill Wake <wakew@jingluo.cs.vt.edu>
>but it comes up
>	Bill Wake <wakew@jingluo.cs.vt.edu.name cs.vt.edu>
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>
>This is a pain, because people can't reply to me, and my message is 
>occasionally appended to some other message.
>
>I'll summarize if there's any response.
>Thanks,
>	Bill Wake
>	wakew@csgrad.cs.vt.edu
From: zeke@esosun.UUCP (James Dehnert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: rdump & rrestore NeXT -> Sun
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:37:36 GMT
Reply-To: zeke@esosun.css.gov.UUCP ()
Organization: Science Applications International Corp., San Diego


  I'm trying to back up my system before I install 3.0.  I jave brought
my cube to work with me and added it to our network of suns.  To backup
the file system I am rinning the following command:

  rdump.old 0fsdu mode:/dev/nrst0 6000 54000 /dev/rsd0a

The dump proceesed alright, but I cannot use the sun restore, the NeXT
restore, or the NeXT restore.old to recover any files.  I am making the
dump in single user mode on the NeXT.  The figures 6000 ft for the 8mm
tape was aken fron the sun man page ( the estimated tape space used
that dump reports makes sense with this figure ) 54000 bpi is fron
NeXT's dump man page.
  Any hints or clues on this?  Perhaps we should start a sysadmin FAQ, I
imagine I'm not the only one with this problem.

  Zeke
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From: neil@ms.uky.edu (Neil Greene)
Subject: Re: 3.0 SimpleNetworkStarter
    <1992Sep7.144807.8190@next.cambridge.ma.us>
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 03:21:15 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel) writes:

>In article <1992Sep7.043554.28989@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>  
>gary@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) writes:
>> 
>> Anyone have any ideas what's going on?
>> 

>It's a new app.  Lots of bugs.  See the release notes.
>-- 

I had the same problems with SNS.  An error panel would pop up on the screen
too fast for anyone to read.  Do the following to get around it:

1) Use nidump to dump your important netinfo files (passwd, groups, aliases,
etc).

2) Copy the origional netinfo files from /usr/template/client/...
3) Reboot
4) Use niload to reload netinfo

-- 
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		Director, Kentucky NeXT User Group
		Email: deepthought!neil@ms.uky.edu
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From: fletcher@socrates.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher)
Subject: Got 3.0 installed okay, but...
Keywords: 3.0 upgrade
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:06:18 GMT

I just upgraded my (040) cube to 3.0 from 2.1 (using the standard
plan, no changes). Everything went well and said it was sucessfully
installed, and to restart the system, which I did (I did not eject the CD ROM).
Everything was going fine on the boot screen until it came to

	Cleaning up: /etc/nologin ptys

then is just stopped dead, no response at all, not even to the power switch.
I finally pulled the plug and rebooted and everything is fine (3.0 is
up and running).

Anyone know what might have happened the first time through? Is there any
problem here?

Thanks,

Charlie



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	charlie@technosci.com	|	otherwise hobnob with my    
				|	brother wizards.
From: yz@ee (Yang Zhang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Help: Networking between NeXT & Ethernet
Date: 11 Sep 92 12:22:26 GMT
Originator: yz@ee.egr.duke.edu

I have a problem with NeXT my NeXT with the rest of the world, and hope you
can help me.

I set the NeXT as a NetInfo server and mail server. The users on the NeXT 
can send out e-mail through Internet, but not receive mail. The super user 
"root", however, can send AND receive mail.  The NeXT networks fine when
telnet command is issued.  The problem is only with e-mail.

If I did not set the NeXT as a NetInfo server, or set to non-NetInfo with
NetInfoManager, e-mail will simply not work, but telnet always works.

What's the problem?

Thank you very much for your time and help.

Yang Zhang
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From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford)
Subject: Re: nfs-problem
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:11:36 GMT

Michael Bruewer writes
> 
> We have a pool of four NeXTs. One netinfo-server, one  
clone server and two  
> clients. All user accounts are network accounts. All home  
directories are nfs  
> mounted on all machines.
> Now the problem is, that if one machine is overloaded and  
the nfs server is not  
> responding, all machines are hanging (little disk icon  
turning) and nobody can  
> work. (I'm not sure if it should read "nearly all" and  
"nearly nobody"). Even  
> if I have a remote shell connection to a machine outside  
the pool, and the nfs  
> server of the NeXT, where my home directory lives,  
doesn't respond, the rsh  
> connection hangs.
> Is this behavior correct or is there something wrong with  
our installation?

Unfortunatly, this is "normal".  NFS is stateless.  So when  
a server is unavailable, it just waits for the server to  
become available again.  The workspace under 2.x ran as a  
single process, so that if it was stating a remote file, it  
would hang there.

Your rsh to another machine would hang probably because csh  
was trying to read .cshrc in your home directory.  If the  
server was unavailable, it waits, and waits and waits...

Some ways around:
	1.  If the nfs server is also a print server, give  
it LOTS of memory.  Ours run 32 MB.
	2.  Disable running of Mathematica on the nfs  
server.
	3.  Try increasing nbuf.  (See discussion a few  
weeks back)
	4.  Increase the number of nfsd's running on the  
server.  I've settled on running 4 per disk served.
	5.  If there is a router between the server and  
client, change rsize and wsize to 7k.  (They default to 8K)   
This is especially true if it's a cheap PC based router.   
Repeaters don't seem to have this problem.
	6.  Turn on the switch for large file systems in  
Preferences.  This stops the prefetch in the workspace so  
that when an NFS server goes down, the workspace doesn't  
hang until you access something on that server.

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From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Subject: Re: HELP: Connecting a SCSI Scanner
Keywords: SCSI, Scanner, help
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:52:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep08.142141.22673@rchland.ibm.com> tpg@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Terry Gliedt) writes:
>Now when the NeXT boots, the system is doing some sort of reset to each of the
>SCSI devices. I presume this is some sort of low-level SCSI reset command. I'd
>like to have some means to reset the device to recover from this error state. I
>did not see anything in ioctl.h and in a few other includes. I'd appreciate some
>mail from anyone who can give me some leads (Jiro??).

On you're 2.x system, look in /usr/include/nextdev/scsireg.h.  (On 3.0
systems, who the %^*&$# know where they put it.  You can bet it's a
pretty long pathname, though.  But I digress...)  

You'll see that there is an ioctl operation (SGIOCRST) you can perform
on the raw SCSI device, /dev/sg0, which looks like it performs a SCSI
bus reset.  You'll need to be root to do this.  Also, this sure seems
like it has the great potential to hose up an I/O which might be
pending on other SCSI devices (like a SCSI disk).  Note that probably
performs a SCSI *BUS* reset and such a thing isn't specific to a
particular device on the bus.  You'll have to be real careful using
this..

louie
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Vendors Considered Evil (Re: Perl use over NFS)
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:04:24 GMT
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada

Tom Christiansen <tchrist@convex.COM> writes
> From the keyboard of jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz):
> :>I'm not sure, though, that I would characterize this as  
"*much*
> :>easer".  It isn't that hard to edit a file or sed a  
collection of
> :>files.
> :
> :Especially since the Camel book (the standard Perl  
reference) contains
> :a nice little Perl program to fix all the #! lines of  
scripts for your
> :system.
> 
> Imagine a /common/scripts/ directory that's mounted on a  
bunch
> of different machines of varying architectures.  You'd  
want the
> #! line to match everywhere.

Right.  But the interpreter for each architecture had  
better be in a different place or you will get an awful lot  
of 'bad magic number' errors.

I follow Dave Ross's notion.  Perl goes in /usr/local/bin  
which points to a different physical directory depending on  
architecture.  /usr/local/scripts may well be common, may  
be default on everyone's path, but again doesn't go in the  
stuff the vendor distributes.  I've had too many cases  
where the way to perform an upgrade is to reformat the hard  
disk.  No thanks.  What I install is kept on a different  
partition.  I've even started entending that notion to  
putting the volitile files in /etc on another partition,  
and replacing them with links.
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From: mehta-anand@CS.YALE.EDU (Anand Mehta)
Subject: LocalTalk possible
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:03:29 GMT

I have a question about the possibility of using localtalk on
the NeXT.  Would it be possible to use the TTYDSP product (which
uses the DSP as a serial port) and BenaTong's serial object to 
somehow use the DSP/serialport with a phonenet connector to
use localtalk.  What other items would be necessary (are any
going to be available in 3.0?)

Thanks
-Anand
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak)
Subject: Re: help! /private/vm/swapfile 44MB. How to shrink it?
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:03:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.215151.2517@metrosoft.com> gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon  
Van Huizen) writes:
> In article <1992Sep7.041747.10597@ccsun7.csie.nctu.edu.tw>  
> jypai@ccnext.csie.nctu.edu.tw writes:
> > Obviously the swapfile eat up my disk space.
> > How can make it smaller?
> > (reboot is the last solution I want)
> > 
> 
> It's the last solution we ALL want, but alas the only solution we  
have...
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Gordon Van Huizen           vox: 619.488.9411  fax: 619.488.3045
> Metrosoft                   gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome]
> ----------------------------------------------------------------

Does 3.0 provide any help?

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From: suite!tarbell@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Re: help! /private/vm/swapfile 44MB. How to shrink it?
Reply-To: suite!tarbell@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Suite Software, Anaheim CA.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:34:43 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.215151.2517@metrosoft.com> gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon  
Van Huizen) writes:
> In article <1992Sep7.041747.10597@ccsun7.csie.nctu.edu.tw>  
> jypai@ccnext.csie.nctu.edu.tw writes:
> > I ran Movie.
> > then I found I was  running out of disk space.
> > So I checked /private/vm/swapfile with 'ls -l', and found:
> > 
> > -rw------t  1 root     44195840 Sep  7 12:12 swapfile
> > 
> > Obviously the swapfile eat up my disk space.

The swapfile not only cannot shrink, it cannot reuse space in
the file expanded for another app: It uses what space it can 
in the 1st 20meg, then creates a new expansion region for the 
currently running app.

Overall, it keeps expanding when more is needed by the app, even 
if the file is 100 megabytes! This is why, should the swapfile
expand, it expands to such great sizes (you'd think 100 meg
would be enough for almost anything...).

This can be demonstrated easily by running an app which
increases the swapfile, killing the app, and running it
again. You'll see the swapfile grow every time:

 swapfile     110372510  Sep 09 15:15  -rw------   1  root  wheel

This is a HUGE bug that NeXT apparently still hasn't addressed,
even in 3.0.  When you have to reboot your file server every couple 
of days, it gets old quickly.  This is just plain poor design.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jchin@prodigy.bc.ca
Subject: test
Reply-To: jchin@prodigy.bc.ca
Organization: Prodigy Technologies Corp.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 01:41:32 GMT

test
test
test

please ignore ... sorry!

Joe
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Rebooting (was Re: help! /private/vm/swapfile 44MB. How to shrink it?)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 01:28:21 GMT

brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst) writes:

>	I have yet to see <alt><cmd>* not reset the machine, unless the
>	keyboard cable has been cut ;-).

I've seen it... it's possible, and the keyboard was fine.
Mathematica can do strange things to NeXTs.  :-)
(Yes, Mma was running the 3 times this has happened on a machine
I've seen)
-- 
David Lemson                                                 (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant  / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu                 UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson 
NeXTMail accepted                                   BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
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From: peer@ccrma.stanford.edu (Peer Landa)
Subject: Power off remotely
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 23:18:44 GMT


We got only one Turbo and that one is located in an office which is closed  
during the night. I wonder if it's possible to power this computer off & on  
remotely, (need to empty the swapfile) ?.

-- peer
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