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From:         Lynda Phillips <LPHILLIP@MSAC.MTSAC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: trip to Hawaii
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Thomessina:

Hi, I'm new to the list so like the rest, I hope this works.  My
husband and I lived on the Island of Oahu for three years and there
is plenty of things to do there for little or no money.  For the
first month we stayed in Honolulu at the Hilton Hawaiian Village.  We
lived on the Windward side of the island in the city of Kaneohe.  If
you like to hike, see tropical gardens, or see the works of local
artists this is some of the things done for free.  If you would like
to visit other islands my second favorite is the Big island of Hawaii,
the land is so diverse from the volcano's to the green sand beaches.
If this reaches you I will try to give you more information.  Have a
wonderful time, I love the islands and miss them.

Lynda Phillips
lphillip@msac.mtsac.edu



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> Date sent:  3-NOV-1992 11:55:23
>    I was also thinking of going to Hawaii on my spring break in March.  I
> would be going with a friend and would like to go to a fairly quiet area.
> Where is the best place to go?  I would like information on inexpensive
> hotels, and car rentals.  If anyone has gone to Hawaii and wouldn't mind
> telling me were they went and how much it cost I would really apprecate it.
>
>                                       Thanks
>                                            Thomessina
>
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From: Dave Gomberg <GOMBERG@UCSFVM.BITNET>
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To: HOWARD KAPLAN <HKAPLAN@UDCVAX.BITNET>

Oh, Debbie, you're so cute when you're mad!

Oh, Dave, you're so manly when you're condescending.

Oh, Howard, you're so dumb.

Just out of curiosity, Dave, why did you say that?

                                Howard
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From: haggar@crchh432.BNR.CA (Haggar Alsaleh)
Subject: STAND BY TRAVEL.												 
Keywords: STAND BY TRAVEL.
Reply-To: haggar@crchh432.BNR.CA (Haggar Alsaleh)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1992 00:15:08 GMT


Could someone tell me which Airlines in the states that will
allow buying stand by tickets or go before the  flight and					
get abord as stand by for destination from and inside the
US of A. I have called most airlines here in DALLAS trying
to fly to Ft Lauterdale, but all of them says no stand by
allowed.

Thanx
Haggar@bnr.ca
From: sascsg@UNX.SAS.COM (Cynthia Grant)
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Subject: Re: San Antonio
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:33:22 GMT
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Some suggestions on San Antonio that I haven't seen from others:

  -  The missions.  The Alamo isn't the only Spanish mission in San
     Antonio, there are 5 or 7 (I forget which) in all.  The largest
     is the San Jose Mission.  Your hotel or the toll-free number someone
     else posted can probably give you more info on these.

  -  The McNay Art Institute.  This museum is in a beautiful colonial-
     style mansion, and features Impressionist art, traveling exhibits,
     and old Spanish colonial art and objects.  The courtyard has
     hand-painted tiles with scenes from Don Quixote. and there are
     extensive grounds with fountains and sculpture.

  -  The King William area.  This is an area of magnificent Victorian
     mansions, some of which are open to the public.

  -  The Botanical Gardens.  Really neat if you are at all into plants.

Don't know if you are interested in any of the above stuff, but there it
is.

My favorite restaurant in San Antonio is La Fogata - true Mexican
cuisine, but don't order one of the standard plates.  Instead, order
several selections from the ala carte section of the menu, and they will
bring you each dish as it becomes ready.

The restaurant near the Mercado that others have mentioned is called
Mi Tierra - it's open 24 hours (or it used to be) and you will see both
tourists and locals there.  They used to have mariachi bands wandering
among the tables.  The food there is more Tex-Mex than Mexican.  If
they still have the bakery counter check out the flaky Mexican pastries.
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From:         Sherry Baldone <SCBALDON@SAMFORD.BITNET>
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                      San Antonio Info

   I was there in late February of this year.  Terrific place!!!
There are 3 restaurants that I would recommend.  Rio Rio Cantino on
the River Walk has wonderful Mexican food on a large plater for around
$7.00.  The locals recommended a restaurant in the Mexican Market
which stays open 24 hours and has great food.  The name of this place
begins with an 'M' and it is on the left as you wander thru the market.  For
breakfast try Cafe Swisse two blocks off of the River Walk (be sure
to select some pastries for breakfast).
   Things to do----
   Go to the Mexican Market (about 12 blocks from the River Walk) but use
the Trolley to get there.  For 10 to 20 cents--- you can ride all over the
place on the different Trolleys.  Texas Ranger Museum, Texas Culture Museum,
Sea World, Alamo, and the River Walk are some good attractions.  I know
you were not interested in the River Walk, but for $2.50 you have an hours
boat tour of San Antonio's downtown.  The night trips are the prettiest.
The River Walk is full of restaurant, shops, and happy tourist.  It is
clean and pretty and quite long.
   The reason I mentioned all of the prices is that this is a great place
to visit and not spend a lot of money.  For example, the Alamo is free.
Have fun, fun, fun----
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From:         Christine Kleinmann <KLEI8706@SNYPLAVA.BITNET>
Subject:      Trip To Italy
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Date sent:  10-NOV-1992 17:01:10
Hi everyone!

        I am thinking about traveling to Italy for two weeks in March of
this coming year.  Can anyone suggest places to visit that are relatively
cheap?  I am a college student so the funds are minimal.  I would be
interested in any places to stay, for example are there any youth hostels
there?  When I traveled in England and Scotland we found some that were
fairly inexpensive and I wouldn't mind doing that again.
        Any advice would be much appreciated!
                Thanks again.
                Chris
P. S.  Also can anyone tell me the weather conditions during March?
From: Timothy.P.Stammers@dartmouth.edu (Timothy P. Stammers)
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Subject: Cruise/Bahamas/Disney/MGM ???
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:35:59 GMT
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This coming March, my wife and I will be going on a trip to Florida for
a 4 day stay in Disney/Epcot and then for a 4 day cruise around the
Bahamas.  I have never been to either of these places before, let alone
a cruise ship.  Can anyone give me some information on what to watch
out for, must do's and any type of information that would be helpful? 
I would really appreciate any help I could get.  Please e-mail the
information to me, if you can.  Thank you very much in advance.     -
Tim

Tim.Stammers@Dartmouth.edu
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From:         GEORGE BAUER <BAUER@RCKHRST1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: French train fares soar
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Eric:

Please stick to the facts and leave your politics at home.

I have heard enough negative politics to last me a lifetime -- even if
I live 1,000 years!!!

Your reference Reagan economics was unnecessary...  Even is a "young person"
feels abused...

george bauer
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 92 12:58:00 MDT
From:         LDENNING@DUCAIR.BITNET
Subject:      RE: Arizona
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Lewis - Where in Arizona?  The state is quite large and has many different
types of activities and historical sites scattered throughout the state
from Nogales on the Mexican border to the Grand Canyon on the Northern
Border, from Tombstone with the OK Corral to Canyon De Chelly with
petroglyphs.  Additionally, how long will you be there?  The weather
will also vary dramatically depending on the part of the state you are
visting; Flagstaff can be donwright cold with snow, etc. while Tucson
highs range from upper 50's to lower 80's.
                        Lloyd Dennington
                        University of Denver
                        (Going to Tucson for Xmas)
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Date sent:  11-NOV-1992 10:11:14
        I am a college student planning on studying abroad at Chester
College next fall.  Any information on historical and tourist sights,
adjusting to the culture shock, weather conditions, and their attitude
towards Americans would be very helpful to me.  Thank you for your help.

Lindsey
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Subject:      American airlines ticket
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Hello,
I have a certificate for a free roundtrip ticket for any American Airlines
destination in the continental US.  I won it as a doorprize, but due to the
blackout dates, two week notice required by American, and my work schedule I
won't be able to use it.  Blackout dates are from Nov 20 to Dec 1, and again
from Dec 18 to Dec 31. Travel must be completed this year.  As I mentioned,
there is a 2 week notice required by American, which they will very rudely
tell you will NOT be ignored, so that reduces the effective dates of travel
to Dec 2 through the 17.  If you can use this and would like to help me get
over the disappointment of winning something I can't use please contact me
directly via bitnet/internet so that we don't clutter the list.  You could
call me here at work.  I'm EXTREMELY flexible as far as the price goes since
I don't have any money tied up in this.


Thanks in advance,
Mark Ziolkowski
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From: JAS@RICVM.BITNET (James A Schaefer)
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Subject: Re: San Antonio
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:02:44 GMT
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You might get some information from the Texas tourist board, 1-800-8888-tex
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 92 16:55:18 EST
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Subject:      The Great Unwashed
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I don't know about anyone else, but the computer is an imporatnt tool to me
and I see no reason for my time to be wasted by the incredibly stupid "dis-
cussion" about soap.  If people absolutely have to indulge in some form of
mutual masturbation, could they please put a subject heading on the message
so curmudgeonly grinches like me could ignore them?
                                        Howard
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 92 20:05:49 +0100
From:         dacier@LAAS.LAAS.FR
Subject:      Wine Shipment from France to USA
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Hi,  I'm having difficulty finding someone to ship my personal wine
collection from France to the USA. If there is anyone out there who can
help, I would appreciate it. Thanks.

 The particulars are:

                Approximately 100 cases of wine (1200 bottles)
                Shipment date - Either end of November or beginning of March
                Starting in or near Toulouse, France
                Going to Baltimore, Maryland
        Need thermally controlled container.

I'm looking for the least expensive alternative to guarantee safe shipment.
I'm sorry that this appears in the travel section, but I don't know where
else to put it.

Any help or advice will do. Thanks again.

 You can respond directly to me if you want and I will summarize the
results and put them in the list.
__________________________________________________________________
                      Marc  Dacier
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France                              E-Mail  : dacier@laas.fr

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  PLEASE SEND ME ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE AT THIS TIME ABOUT A NEW AND
EXCITING PLACE TO TRAVEL IN THE WORLD????????????????
Anyplace you haven't yet been!
From: MOHD@PSY.GLASGOW.AC.UK
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Subject: Re: backpacking through Europe
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:42:31 GMT
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Hi'
  Someone mentioned half price rail tickets from  a  company called
  Transalpino.It went bust a few years back.I'm not sure if B.I.G.E
  was the same company though.

                        Asgher
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 92 11:52:00 EDT
From:         HANES91@SNYPOTVA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Minneapolis
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I don't know if you will consider it an important place to visit or not
but it certainly is impressive.  What am I talking about you ask?

The Mall of America.  I believe it is the largest mall in the world and it
just opened in August.  It has an amusement park in the center of it.
I ws there in August and it is certianly a day trip to see it all not to
mention doing shopping there.

Also there are a few indian reservations that offer some casino gambling
and bingo if you are into that.  Other than that a visit to downtown
and the many interconnected shopping areas is also fun.

Bill Hanes
HANES91@SNYPOTVA.BITNET
GEnie E-Mail TRAVELITE
Ogdensburg NY USA
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From:         HORVATH@DAEMON.RUTGERS.EDU
Subject:      Re: Cancun Information
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My fellow sufferer in this office says the Days Inn Cancun is very nice,
although a little far from downtown.  The bus service is good, though, and
takes about 15 minutes to get you downtown.

Don't have any info on the travel agency, but my "expert" says the price is
good.  Have you checked the Better Business Bureau?

Hilde
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On Sun, 8 Nov 92 19:35:00 EST JENNIFER KIME said:
>Date sent:  8-NOV-1992 19:33:59
>  PLEASE SEND ME ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE AT THIS TIME ABOUT A NEW AND
>EXCITING PLACE TO TRAVEL IN THE WORLD????????????????

Jennifer, how much time and money do you want to spend?  Some places are great
and exotic, but not new, eg. Hawaii, Tahiti, Great Barrier Reef.  Others are
real sleepers.  Please give me a little more info about what you are looking
for.   Dave

Dave Gomberg    GOMBERG@UCSFVM  Internet node UCSFVM.UCSF.EDU  (415)731-7793
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Date sent:  11-NOV-1992 14:59:00
Hello I am a student a SUNY Plattsburgh.  We have our spring break during
the week of March 17-24.  I believe that is from a Wednsday to another
Wednsday.  I wanted to start planning for spring break however some of my
friends are hesitant to attend strickly because of finacial reasons.  I was
wondering if anyone knows how I can go about getting a group discount or
package.  This would be great if someone could help me out so that all of
my friends and I could attend and not regret it because of the costs.  Also
I was wondering what the best hotel is that we would want to stay in.
And where the best night clubs are.  Finally how close we are to the water.
 I am curious about all these questions because we are college students and
we definitely want to be in the college atmostphere rather than the parents
atmostphere.  The faster you can reply the better.
Thank you,
Rebecca
From: MKBECK01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU (Mary K. Becker)
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Subject: San Antonio
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:36:30 GMT
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Acquisitions Assistant-Kornhauser Library
Phone: 588-5763
We enjoyed the Alamo, we took a trolley (bus painted to look like a trolley)
tour of the city that was nice, but crowded and leaves from the info
center right across from the Alamo.  The Menger Hotel is beautiful -
the bar is where Teddy Roosevelt supposedly recruited his Rough Riders.
The street entrance to the bar is right next to the info center, I think.
The Institute of Texan Cultures is interesting - we were there in
June and it was really hot and the Institute was really cold - maybe
that's why I liked it.  We went to the top of the Needle (in Hemisphere
(?) Park - where they had the World's Fair, anyway) and took some
beautiful pictures.  It's real close to the Institute of Texan Cultures.
We ate at Landry's (?) - it was good, very informal - for lunch.  It's
in that same area.  Of course, the Riverwalk is gorgeous, just to walk
or to go in the restaurants, shops and bars.  There's a Mexican restaurant
there on the riverwalk (across from Jim Cullums??) that is supposed to
be real good, but we didn't get a chance to go there.  We went to
Tycoon Flats - if it's warm enough you can sit outside & listen
to the band (I have  NO idea what the weather is like down there in
late November!) and eat the LARGE cheeseburger (enough for 2-3 people).
I think it's on St. Mary's St.??   We were only there a couple of
days, and not even full ones at that.  I'm sure there's lots more
to do in such a beautiful city - we just did the touristy things, sorry.
Have a wonderful time!
Mary K.
MKBECK01@ULKYVM : BITNET
From: GOMBERG@UCSFVM.BITNET (Dave Gomberg)
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Oh, Debbie, you're so cute when you're mad!

Oh, Dave, you're so manly when you're condescending.

Oh, Howard, you're so dumb.

Dave Gomberg    GOMBERG@UCSFVM  Internet node UCSFVM.UCSF.EDU  (415)731-7793
Seven Gateview Court, San Francisco CA 94116-1941
From: nicholls@FNALA.FNAL.GOV
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Subject: Xenophobia?
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:43:12 GMT
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I think that some readers don't take discussions of "showers I have known"
(or my favorite, "toilets I have known") in the way that some of us mean
them.  I have done a lot of traveling, much of it in foreign countries, and
I seek out the differences.  I revel in the differences. And these
discussions are about just those differences.  In some cases there is
probably an objective sense that one place is better than another
(especially in "toilets I have known" or regarding American bread), but
there is another sense where the differences are humorous, but not
necessarily because there is a better or a worse.  And in many cases it is
helpful for travelers to know about those differences in advance.  For
example, I joke that in Europe you may not know whether pulling a chain
will turn off the light or flush the toilet.  It is frustrating not to know
the many ways that a toilet flushes and useful for a would-be traveler to
be aware that all toilets in Europe may not be just like his toilet at
home!  Showers too...  That a campground shower may require coins and a
hint that the shower may be VERY SHORT is useful information (especially if
you have long hair as I do)!  And those experiences can lead to funny
stories.  Funny stories are a bi-product of travel and they are more about
oursevles, and jokes on ourselves, as they are an apparent criticism of the
country or countries involved.  

I enjoyed the comment about the French snobbery being like New England
snobbery.  Maybe it is because I lived for a long time in New England that
I don't notice the French snobbery as much as some people seem to.  I love
France and find French peoople friendly and helpful enough. (But maybe
that's because I usually travel out of season and in the provinces.)  On
the other hand, I think it is very useful for travelers to have some advance
information on the temperaments and habits of nationalities before they go. 
Yes, of course they are gross oversimplifications...  

Maybe the test is whether we can laugh as long and loud at ourselves. I am
willing to talk a long time about the deficiencies of American bathtubs and
their fixtures versus European tubs, for example.  And there was the long
discussion about American food.  As everywhere, you have to know what to
look for and where and how to look.  Or decide, hey, that's not why I'm
here anyway...  

What am I getting at?  That such discussions are not necessarily meant in a
critical manner.  There are differences, thank God, and that's one of the
reasons to travel -- to me the most important one.  So of course I'm going
to talk about those differences.  And just because I talk about it doesn't
mean that I wish I had gone somewhere that is just like home!
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