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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 23:47:34 CDT
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From:         Tushar Samant <tushar%ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: budget sayings

Why, a budget of paradoxes is exactly the phrase which came to my mind
when this budget question came up. I just couldn't remember where I had
heard it.

Is the author Milton Rothman, or is it Rosenberg ? Rosenberg is on the
editorial board of the Skeptical Inquirer. He is a prof here at Chicago.
I actually had a very good pretext for meeting him - I could have
interviewed him for a smallish campus paper. But unfortunately I also
had to TALK to the editors of this paper, and most probably they think
I don't know a word of English.

In short, the assignment was cancelled. And another chance to get name in
print bit the dust.

tushar
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Fresh(man) Meat (was Reflections on ...)

From:         CHADG@CLEMSON.BITNET

>      What you said reminds me of my goal in life.  I plan to
> concentrate on one area of mathmatics.  Then I plan to learn
> more and more about it.  I shall continue to narrow down my
> area of specialization until, at some glorious point in time,
> I will know absolutely everything about nothing! What an aim,

     What an old joke.  Especially for a mathematician.  The sign on
this list is WORDS-L, but there are some heavy duty math types here,
friend.

The Ronin
From: gtoal@castle.ed.ac.uk (Graham Toal)
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Subject: Re: BWP Stats 4/8/92 *The Ronin Takes the Gold!*
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:14:06 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <00958D07.26046F00.18718@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU> aharwell%PANAM1.PANAM.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU (Anne Harwell) writes:
:If a tree falls on the Internet, does it make a sound? You bet, if it's our
:ListGoddess's mighty Sequoia toppling to the persistent, relentless Ronin! This
:week's prime mover, is none other than Bob White, with Chris "Lobstrosity"
:Schmidt making a brave showing. He would have been Prime mover if the
:unthinkable hadn't happened to Natalie. So remember what Curly The BwP says:
:Post Early; Post Often!
:
:Robert J. White @ MSCD...	234 <---Gold
:Natalie Maynor			228 <---Silver
:ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU	166 <---Bronze
:Stephen Karlson			105 <---Economist Level

I seriously suggest we stop posting these stats whose only purpose is
to encourage the level of idiocy that we've seen here lately.

Or perhaps Natalie might finally consider switching this group
to moderated status if only to filter out the 50 messages a day
asking 'is the system dead or is it just me?'.

The MTBA (mean time between articles) in this group is about 10
minutes.  If you don't get anything for an hour, it *is* just you.

G
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 08:53:58 EDT
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From:         HUNK%BRUFPB2.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU

Hi you guys out there,
.
.
I am talking from Brazil and for ages have been studying English,
American English.
So I have run into some American words and idioms which have really been
a spanner in the works when I try to talk to someone from The
Commomwealth.
They've told me that such words would be hard to be gotten even by
Americans...
I would like anyone out there to try to explain me if such idioms are
widely used in the U.S.A. and their correct meaning. Here they are:
.
NEW LOW;
TO ZAP IT TO YA;
ETH'ED
and
FAITH 'N' BEGORRA.
.
A zillion thanks beforehand.
.
Yours faithfully, Admir.
On the far (but not outlying) So. America.
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From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET%UGA.CC.UGA.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Natalie's odd speech....or maybe it's me?
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> Although I'm pretty sure I could spell it correctly, I don't want to  ell
> tell that risk.)

This is what Natalie wrote about Frank McLellan's name. (Edwin McClellan
at Yale is a real Scotsman (though 1/2 Japanese) and he spells his name
w/ the 'c'.)

I'm just curious about 'tell that risk'--typo, or some strange southern
wording I should get used to if I move to Memphis???

Curious List Angel
Karen
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From:         "JACK REARDON, POSTMASTER"
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Subject:      Ed Pinckney (was Re: Gleanings (38))
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Date sent:  8-APR-1992 14:03:03.89

In a previous article, 'The harder I work, the behinder I get'
 <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU> wrote:
>Message sent: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 10:22:00 EST.
>
> 3) Ed Pinkney (Jack R.)
>
>	Ed Pinckney is a basketball player.  He was a star on the Villanova
>	team that upset Georgetown to win the 1985(?) national collegiate
>	championship.  How he showed up in words-l to be gleaned escapes me.

Beats me.  Baseball is my cup of tea!

From: IN%"'JACK REARDON, POSTMASTER' <JREARDON@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>"
Date:  2-APR-1992 11:59:21
Description: Re: Rollie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Message sent: Thu, 2 Apr 1992 11:45:00 EST.

Date sent:  2-APR-1992 11:43:43.27

In a previous article, 'PLOTKIN, ALEC DAVID' <185422285@UCIS.VILL.EDU> wrote:
>Message sent: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 18:06:00 EDT.
>
>Our beloved Rollie Massimino is going to coach UNLV leaving Villanova.
>We are fucked. Our hoops team will fall apart. 7:00 pm EST. there
>is a press conference explaining the situation. Those of you
>who follow college hoops will understand why this is such a big thing.
>Those of you don't follow college hoops I will put you back to your
>regular channel.
>
>later
>
>
>alec
   Ed Pinkney did not believe this report last night.  He insisted that
   the Boston sports reporters were just putting him on.  He felt it
   was a cruel April Fools joke.


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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: sad thought

Claimeth      ktw@HLWPK.ATT.COM

> I've heard of this elsewhere, too: the "parochial school model."  I
> like it.  It strips away the opportunities for kids to subtly (or
> not so subtly) compare degrees of parental wealth as reflected in
> clothing.

     You mean how faded the uniform is (from constant wear) and how
well it fits (because the child is still growing) won't be a way to
determine relative parental wealth?  Things like this take away the
more easily spotted opportunities, but until everyone is forced to be
exactly the same (e.g. each child is allowed to have 'x' and only 'x'
number of uniforms per year) the subtle signs will continue to shine
through.  If one wants to differentiate, the means will be found.

The Ronin
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Date:         Sun, 12 Apr 1992 21:56:00 EDT
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From:         Joan Boorstein <BOORSTEIN%UMBSKY.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      RE: List Moved: WORDS-L English Language Discussion G

HHECLWH@HKUCC.BITNET asks in a message likely (as Steve observed) intended
for the listserv

>Dear sir,

>I intend to subscribe to this group. Could you help me?

>Joseph LAU

Natalie,
    As Words-L listowner, I hope you'll subscribe Joseph.  HKUCC is the
University of Hong Kong and this dot would be a great addition to the 'map'
on the next T-shirt.
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor%RA.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Re: descriptivism

> Should there not be a prescriptive basis to fall back on if there are two or
> more native speakers of English, potentially from different regions, and,
> possibly, with a diverse range of dialects?

That's why Standard English and standard dialects of other languages
exist.  I don't know that anybody on the list has been arguing against
the existence of a standard dialect.  I certainly haven't been.  What
I've been interested in is people's ideas of how the standard dialect
is determined.  It's determined by social and political factors.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor%RA.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Reflections on the matter of language change

> So when you say
>
> (a) It would be deplorable if the English language were to change into
>     a system of grunts.
>
> what you really mean is
>
> (b) It would be deplorable for English speaking cultures to change so
>     that their linguistic needs were  met by a system of grunts.
>
> Natalie has been carefully aruing for the falseness of (a) (or, more
> accurately, the meaninglessness of (a)) while very carefully not
> agreeing or disagreeing with (b).

Right!  ("meaningless" in the sense of silly)

> I gather that you find this distinction uninteresting and don't see
> why Natalie (and I) think it is important.

The distinction is an important one in linguistics.  That is not to
say that only linguists are allowed to find it important or interesting.
Even technogeek systems programmers are allowed to find it important
and interesting.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         ktw%HLWPK.ATT.COM@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU
Subject:      Re: Fitting in
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>>logged in as often as I am.  Guess I'll have to join the college kid
>>clique.  Aimee, Aaron, Alec, Adam..funny how our names all start with
>>A.  Does that mean anything?
>Absolutely.

And I thought it was just a coincidence.

Anthony Aardvaark
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From:         Tushar Samant <tushar%ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      electronic media

>i think that english will be profoundly changed by the use of
>electronic media across linguistic and national boundaries,

There is one thing I always wanted to know. How "big" is the
influence of the internet (or "electronic media" in general) ?
How many novelists, poets, journalists, etc. have even heard
of it or used it ?

tushar
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From:         Judith Schrier <PRIMATE%BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CALLING ALL STUDENTS OF RUSSIAN
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>Well, Graham, we Scots (especially expatriates such as we, what with you
>living in ruddy England) have got to stick together.  In the immortal words
>of Saturday Night Live, "if it isn't Scottish, it's CRRRRRRRRRAP!"
And in the immortal words of Silly Wizard, "Scotland is not for
the squeamish."

judith, Silly Wizard fan and Leather Mama
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor%RA.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CALLING ALL STUDENTS OF RUSSIAN

> But they're not the same. The rules are part of what make a system. But the
> system goes beyond the rules. Rules, even as you are using the term, are in
> large part arbitrary. Systems, though composed of arbitrary entities, are not
> arbitrary. They have to be "systematic" else the system breaks down.

I need to go find your earlier posting on usenet or in the archives.  I
could have sworn that you implied that rules were something not necessary
in a language -- that they were used for descriptive purposes only.  Whether
you consider the rules the whole system or part of the system, they are
essential.  And nobody has to study them.  They're absorbed automatically
by the small child acquiring the language.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         leah <LEAH%BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Understatement of the Year
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The May issue of the ATlantic has an interesting article on the Mexican/US
border. It is the first of two.
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From:         Steve Portigal <stevep%SNOWHITE.CIS.UOGUELPH.CA@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Deserving Flames
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I agree with Rita, my point is that you probably learned horse riding
in such a way that the element of danger was very clear to you.  You may
have been afraid of falling off and getting hurt from the very
start.  You've never viewed horseback riding as an activity that *didn't*
have a certain risk.  You may have known other riders who've fallen or
witnessed their falls, and eventually you fell yourself.

Sex is a much different type of activity (well, having only ridden a
horse once, that's my guess ;-).  It's a physical urge that is built in
to our bodies.  As we matured and started to desire sexual release, it
was never with the fear that such an activity would injure us (maybe
the fear of pregnancy might alter this somewhat for women ???), it was
always the seeking of pleasure.

Maybe as children (depending on when we grew up) we were told about this
in school.  Maybe an hour or two over the whole school year.  Personally
I learned about STDs long before I even considered becoming sexually active.
It seemed very abstract at that time.

My point is that society has not changed enough that sex is *truly* felt
to be a risky activity.  We always talk about high-risk forms of
sex, but that's a medical classification, it's not the underlying attitude.
Sex is an idea -- it's on TV, it's in the movies, magazines, T-shirts.
It's being offered (as a concept) everywhere, tantalizing, fun, etc.  Where
is the fear?  Where is the caution?  It's not there.

If society changes so that sex is honestly viewed as a risky and
dangerous activity then maybe we can equate it with horseback riding where
you can *expect* as a reasonalbe consequence that you may be hurt.  It
is not the case now.  Obviously that is too bad, because lives are
being wasted.

Steve
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:58:00 CDT
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From:         "815 Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980"
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Subject:      Re: New Voices on the list

"Your honor, I never knew Mr. Tyson ..."

And he therefore never knew you.

Steve Karlson
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Penmanship

Stateth       Anne Harwell <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>

>This isn't anything to be ashamed of. You are just finding it so much easier to
>experiment and correct mistakes electronically that any other mode becomes
>restrictive.

     Not for me.  I have (for as long as I can remember) composed the
fundamental structure in my head and played with there until it
settled.  Then I would commit it to some other form (legal pads,
triple spaced typing, or computer file), do another read and edit,
then finalize it.  For posts I generally skip the last two steps and
sometimes put a pipe in between the first three (for those who
haven't read of enough of my postings to have detected this pattern).

General Responses

     I always had poor handwriting (better, Tushar?) in grade school.
My mother took it seriously, but I didn't.  If I ever have kids and
one of them has a teacher like Rod ran into, the fur will fly.
Especially given the rapid spread of electronic penmanship via laptops
and portable printers.  And I doubt seriously my wife will be able to
keep me from attending the parent nights.  Things like this are a sore
spot for me.  As a kid I would grit my teeth and remind myself that
the day was coming when I would be an adult and the playing field
would tilt the other way.  I also can't blame my deteriorating
penmanship on computer addiction.  Mine was illegible before I was
ever allowed on a CRT, much less given access to a full screen editor.

The Ronin
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: student rebellion (was sad thought)

From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>

> A Chevy through a police barricade?  This sounds like an interesting
> story...how old were you?

     17 going on 18.  There was a large scale, organized, school
approved hazing event that I did not approve of.  (There was an
anti-hazing statue on the books in Colorado at the time, it just was
ignored.)  No charges were ever filed, but it left last a lasting
impression on a number of upperclassmen.  The group I ran with became
known as the 'Freshman Underground', until we became sophomores.  Then
we were known as the 'Mines Mafia'.  For some odd reason the next
couple of freshman classes were treated somewhat gentler.

The Ronin
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Subject:      belated b-day wishes

From:   NAME: Les Buhite
        FUNC: Visual and Performing Arts
        TEL: (716) 665-5220                   <BUHITE, LES AT A1 AT JCCV03>
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Zowie! Take a day off and all the stuff I missed!

Happy belated #41, Karen.  Hope you got a nice spanking and other
fun stuff.

(shame)Les
Only a hundred mesages to go, but it's late and the VAX is hanging
up and I got the flu on my vacation, and on and on...
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From:         Anne Harwell <aharwell%PANAM1.PANAM.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Conversation Stoppers
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>> ...and when I'm introduced, they askme, "So what do you do?" and I say, "I
>> teach" and they say "What?" and I say, "Computer Science" and , to use the
>> phraseology of Ronin: CONVERSATION STOPPETH.
>>
>>         Stu
>
>The same thing used to happen to me.  It isn't so bad when I tell
>people I teach Japanese, but if they ask about my research, they usually
>try and get away as soon as possible.

It's really simpler than all that. People don't actually CARE what you do for a
living. They ask that question because it gives them something easy to talk
about. Most times when people ask how you are or what you do, they aren't even
listening anyway and they'll probably ask you what you do next time they see
you. I am constantly being asked if I still "teach at the college," even though
I work in Technology Resources, a support department. "Oh, yes," they sputter,
"you told me that last time."

But most times when people say what they do, it's something that falls into the
area of common knowledge about "what people do." If you say "accountant,"
people sort of generally know what it is you do. Same goes for nurse, teacher,
astronaut, firefighter, mayor. They don't know the little ins and outs of the
daily work day, but they know generally what you're talking about.

Now, "Japanologist," "Computer Science Professor," and even my lowly
explanation, "I work with computers" is outside the general body of knowledge.
But it's not totally unheard-of, like "Epididymologist" might be. So it's
embarrassing to betray total lack of knowledge of what you've just said because
part of the "what do you do for a living" game is to behave as if you CARE. In
my mind, people who ask that question get what they deserve when conversation
stoppeth, because they're hoist on their own petard.

On the other hand, not giving them a cubbyhole in which to stick you assures
that they'll be back at the next cocktail party asking "Do you still teach at
the college?"

-abh
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Remember the posting yesterday(?) describing the nameserver problems at
UGA -- the one signed "--Fwp, boring technogeek"?  I forwarded it to the
postmaster/listserv manager at UGA, who is out of town and is reading his
e-mail from elsewhere.  Just got a reply from him, thanking me for the
forwarding, agreeing that that is probably the problem (a problem he had
not been able to identify from *my* description a few days ago of what
was going on), and saying that he would forward the info to somebody at
UGA who might be able to solve it since he won't be back there until
April 20.  So Technogeek has come through for us.  BORING technogeek??
Ha!  Even Bernardykins, while frantically evading being chopped by a
sword, will admit that FWP is not boring.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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