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From: bwood@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (William Wood)
Subject: Re: 29th Anniversary of the Assasination
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:22:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.155142.19472@engage.pko.dec.com>, busta@vicki.enet.dec.com writes...
> 
>In article <16NOV199215390225@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov>, bwood@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.
>gov (William Wood) writes...
>>Dear Rob,
>> 
>>  The family 'used' to have annual rituals there on the 22nd.  
>>However, in recent years they have choosen to remember JFK on
>>his birthday instead.  I was at Arlington last Wednesday (Vets
>>Day), and I'll be there again this Sunday.. This time @ JFK's
>>grave, as I have for the past 29 years.  Drop me a (e-mail)
>>line if I can be of further help.  Bill
> 
> 
>  A quick question for you Mr. Wood. You wouldn't, by chance, be the William
> Wood, CIA or ex-CIA, who once went to work on attempting to discredit 
> Jim Garrisons' investigation in the late sixties, are you? I mean, if you
> are the same man, I would doubt you would admit having worked for the `company'
> as a matter of standard procedure. It seems rather strange to me that a lot
> of the suspects in Mr. Garrisons' investigation also later ended up working
> for NASA...........
> 
> 
>  Whatever your reply, I'll be skeptical...............;^)
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
> 
>Paul R. Busta	Busta@vicki.enet.dec.com                       Salem,N.H.  
>		--or-- ...!decwrl!vicki.enet.dec.com!busta    603-894-3962
>		--or-- busta%vicki.enet@decwrl.dec.com
> 
>         "One only sees what one observes, and one observes only 
>              those things which are already in the mind."



<*>  Gee, thanks a fucking hell of a lot man.  I've made several 
friends on this network, but I guess you just put a shit-ass
stop to that.  Go screw yourself!!!
From: 6489mcadamsj@vms.csd.mu.edu (John McAdams)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk
Subject: Re: IT WAS A CONSP. NO IFS &OR BUTTS
Date: 17 Nov 1992 19:58:19 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
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In article <1992Nov16.221338.2739@bvc.edu>, krusebrianke@bvc.edu writes:
>IT WAS A CONSPIRACY .....END OF DISCUSION
>
Ok, if it was a conspiracy, was Oswald involved, or do you think he was
an innocent "patsy."

.John
From: ccasm@cc.newcastle.edu.au
Subject: Re: I Killed JFK
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 00:16:37 GMT

In article <13NOV199215370469@muvaxa.rferl.org>, brockr@muvaxa.rferl.org (Train, Learn, Climb, Ride) writes:
> In article <greco.721630433@s1.elec.uq.oz.au>, greco@elec.uq.oz.au (John Greco) writes...
>>Get a life dickheads. He's dead.
> 
> This, of course being sent by an Aussie he's to be excused.  We must remember
> that most Aussies are direct decendants of criminals so one must realize
> that there are a few screws loose here, if not all.
>   Get the hint Aussie?

Sorry, but I must reply to this. I have previously emailed John Greco to
suggest that if JFK is dead "so is Greco's brain".

Why? This is not his first post. previously he has been just as blunt and
insulting. It must give him a kick, I guess. He has nothing to contribute here
so just ignore him.

But as for R.Brock - most Aussies are not descendants of criminals. Get your
facts right. Australia was a new penal colony following the loss of that use
for North America following the War of 	ndependence. In those days many of the
"criminals" were deported from Britain for such crimes as stealing a loaf of
bread to avoid starving - overcrowding was the problem. 

Queensland, where John Greco comes from is our Deep North, as in the USA "deep
south". but I would never accuse him of being a bigot or dickhead, would I?
Most Aussies are the same as everyone else. Don't judge us all on Greco's
behavoiur. BTW our society is "multicultural" by choice these days, and is
promoted by the government as such. We are very tolerant (although I know
somone will accuse us of trating our aboriginals poorly - but look at South
Africa).
Just put his name in your kill file, or don't respond to his posts. he doesn't
deserve it - it only encourages him!...

Big Al...(who wishes he had used his spellchecker) :+)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk
From: walker@Ingres.COM (Lynn Walker)
Subject: rush to judgement/mark lane
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords: none
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:37:37 GMT

I recently saw part of RUSH TO JUDGEMENT, the 1967 (?) documentary made by
lawyer Mark Lane. In this film, Mr. Lane interviews an assassination
investigator (whose name escapes me) who says that there were several witnesses
or "people who knew too much" about the conspiracy/killing of JFK. These
individuals all met untimely and mysterious deaths (i.e. Lee Bowers/car
accident). These deaths occured within ten years after the assassination
(correct me if I'm wrong).

Does anyone have a list of those inviduals who died under mysterious
circumstances? How did they die? What was their relationship to the
assassination? I believe that there were at least 10 or 12 people who died
without a satisfactory explanation. Please post this list.

I would also be interested if these deaths are detailed in any books relating
to the assasination. I have read a few of them, but don't remember if this
topic was dealt with.

Thanks.
			-- Lynn --

 *****************************************************************************
  Lynn Walker		+ "When you think about it, the whole idea of two guys
  Toronto, Canada	+  making decisions for twenty million people--that's
  walker@ingres.com	+  pretty funny."		-- The Candidate
 *****************************************************************************
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen)
Subject: Re: Committee of 300 - READ ME NOW!
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:57:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.111951.1606@dct.ac.uk> ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig) writes:
>In article <1992Nov15.193734.26206@bilver.uucp>, dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) writes:
>> ** READ ME **
>> 
>> "Conspirators' Hierarchy: The Story of The Committee of 300 "
>> by Dr. John Coleman
>
>Could someone please mail me parts 1,3 and 4 which didn't make it to my
>site. I've tried mailing dona@bilver.uucp but got no reply.
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>-- 
>Alan Greig                            Janet: Alan@UK.AC.DUNDEE-TECH
>Dundee Institute of Technology	   Internet: Alan@DCT.AC.UK
>Tel: (0382) 308810                 Int: +44 382 308810
>              -- There is only one true conspiracy --

That's mainly because I only login once a week now and just got your
email. If you *haven't* gotten any response to have some one mail
you the missing parts, then let me know and I *will* email them to
you. 

Don


haven

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Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: ad626@yfn.ysu.edu (Steve Crocker)
Subject: Re: Bo Gritz
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 20:17:46 GMT


Ted Frank does an acceptable job of refuting what Bo Gritz didn't
say. Gritz claimed that the owners of the Federal Reserve System
were Jewish banking families. Material I have seen, listing these
families indicates this to be factually the case, in the case of
a majority of the stock. It is possible that the material I have
seen was unreliable - it was from a usenet post and I don't recall
if a source was given. 

Ted Frank states that most of the major international banks are
WASP or Japanese owned and exclude Jews. This may well be true,
but does not speak to the issue of Federal Reserve ownership. AS
to Gritz's identifying the leaders of his "loony conspiracy theory"
as Jewish, I think Ted is just talking ignorant nonsense here, and
will continue to think that unless somebody comes up with evidence
indicating that Gritz said or believes such a thing.

-STeve
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,soc.culture.jewish
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Jews in Banks
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:06:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.110726.1919@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>And if I catch him at [lying], it's doubtful we'll do business.  

Precisely.  Which is why Steiner got fired.  He can no longer plausibly
claim he has influence, because he got caught lying about that influence.

>Earlier
>in my career I had several years of successful high-tech sales and
>know from first hand experience that good business is built on trust,
>not hype and exaggeration.  Are you saying that Mr. Steiner's reported talk
>of taking some credit for a few billion here and a few billion there was
>just puff to get a few bucks coming in to keep the office coffee fund
>in good shape and that AIPAC is really impotent?  

Yes.  This isn't the first time this has happened.  Several lobbying
groups have written to members claiming to have such-and-such in their
pocket.  The Arkansas Bar Association claimed to have Clinton in their
pocket, also.  It's what lobbying groups do.  They try to seem influential.

AIPAC doesn't elect or dis-elect anyone.  The Stephen Solarz loss should
demonstrate that.  They do give money to people who are already favorably
pre-disposed to Israel.  But I doubt you can show me a single Congressperson
who's changed his or her mind on Israel because of AIPAC money.  Even to
the extent you could (which I doubt), I don't think you could show me a 
single vote that's had its result changed because of the AIPAC lobbying.

Congress supports Israel because Israel is the only country that even
remotely approaches American values and beliefs in the Middle East.
That isn't to say that Israel is perfect.  But it's a hell of a lot
better than its neighbors, and has been as good an ally as America has
had in the last forty years.  Even if James Baker doesn't appreciate
that, people who value democracy do.

>I hope you rethink
>some of your attitudes towards business ethics.

We're not talking about my attitudes towards business ethics, we're
talking what lobbies do.  When you catch me working for a lobby that
uses sleazy tactics, then you can complain about my attitudes toward
business ethics.

What is AIPAC supposed to say?  "We've had no influence over the last
twelve years, we couldn't even get Israel's greatest friend in the House
of Representatives re-elected, the Secretary of State ignores us, we
didn't get the arms sales to Saudi Arabia stopped, half of Congress ignores
us...."  They generate money by seeming to be influential.  And that's
what Steiner was doing.  He was lying and trying to take advantage of
Harry Katz's trust, just like Harry Katz was lying to Steiner and trying
to take advantage of Steiner's trust.  I think they're both slime.
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: harvey@indyvax.iupui.edu
Subject: Re: Committee of 300 - READ ME NOW!
Organization: Indiana University-Purdue University at Indianapolis
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:52:25 -0500

In article <1e7im4INNiqb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, aq817@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Crocker) writes:
>
> Here I was scanning this book visually at 2400 baud as I downloaded
> to my PC via screen capture, thinking what a splendid piece of
> intelligence analysis, and so well written, too. Then somewhere in
> the depths of part 7 the little racial glitches started to show up,

Well, MY bigot-meter pinned itself into the red at line 61 of part 1, where
the author begins describing the conspiracy to discredit him, which he claims
is organized by Closet-Homosexual-Controlled-Agent-Informers who operate from
various right-wing organizations "under cover of strong and fearless outspoken
opposition to Judaism their main enemy, they would have us believe."

The implication here is that those who profess to oppose Judaism as their
primary enemy should be working for him, not against him.

If these ain't the words of an anti-Semitic bigot, show me a better example...

>[rest deleted]
--
James Harvey
harvey@iupui.edu
Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:12309 soc.culture.jewish:20432
From: bruce@pages.com(Bruce Henderson)
Subject: Re: Jews in Banks / Jews in Hovercraft
Organization: Banzai Research Institute
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:57:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.160701.16000@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu  
(Ted Frank) writes:
> 
> Eight of the ten largest international banks in the world are Japanese.
> There are no Jews on any of their boards.  Jews are underrepresented
> on the boards of the major banks based in New York City, which, to my
> knowledge, have never had a Jewish CEO.
> 
> To say Jews control international banking is ludicrous.  If it were
> true, than Israel wouldn't need loan guarantees, they'd just go to
> the Jewish international bankers with their perfect no-default record,
> no?


So who cares if Jews or Muslims or Hindus or Plain Old Zeta Reticuli Greys run  
the banks... I just don't get it.  Who cares?  There are no Jews running  
hovercraft across Mission Bay in San Diego... Do I bitch? No.  Does that make  
me an anti-semi... (Ha!) I don't think so.  

Bruce
From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Bo Gritz
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:58:17 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <1992Nov17.053803.4159@netcom.com> jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff) writes:
>In article <17477@pitt.UUCP> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
>>
>>Well, how about the UPC bar codes being the mark of the beast?  That
>>stuff was in his campaign literature!  I'd say anyone that believes
>>that stuff has to be a lunatic.
>>
>>
>
>Actually, if you look into implants currently used for animals, it'
>s only a step further to the obvious conclusion that people will one
>day be asked or forced to have microscopic implants that will allow
>humans to be constanly monitored by satillite...
>

Well, I'd say you better not read any science fiction, then, if you
tend to believe that anything that is technologically possible
leads one to the "obvious conclusion that" it will someday be
applied.  But even so, Gritz is even more looney.
He is saying that the mark of the beast is here
right now!  And it is the UPC bar codes, and we are soon going
to all have bar codes *tattooed* onto our foreheads.  I'm serious!

>Put that together with the fact that Bo was one of the first to come 
>right out and say, "the US government is the worlds biggest dope dealer"
>and "cash in your paper for gold before the US goes cashless" and you
>can see that he is quit visionary. 
>
Visionary?  The government is a dope dealer?  I thought it was
the queen of England (oops, I guess that is a LaRouche vision).
How has this about cash in your paper for gold been valuable?  When
did he make this prediction?  1969?  That was a wonderful time
to buy gold.  Since 1979, those who have bought gold have lost
their shirts!  So when was Gritz advice?  

>I predict that it is merely a matter of time before all of the above
>becomes obvious or comes to pass. Rants of anit-semitism attached to
>Bo are simply trying to push the focus away from his main message.
>

I didn't say anything about anti-Semitism.  

-- 
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From: st1r8@elroy.uh.edu (Guillot, Burt J.)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science
Subject: What is the purpose of the large and small prong on 2-pronged plugs
Date: 15 Nov 1992 12:00 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
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That subject says it all ...
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science
From: bjornts@ii.uib.no (Bjoern Tore Sund)
Subject: Re: Drowning Duck Experiment?
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Bergen
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:57:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.103117.21992@infodev.cam.ac.uk>, rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) writes:
|> In article <BxH3wG.Dqw@javelin.sim.es.com>, rspeirs@javelin.sim.es.com (Ron Speirs) writes:
|> |>[...]
|> |>
|> |> I heard this story MANY years ago from my High School chemistry teacher.
|> |> He said that they used
|> |>           Dioctyl Sodium Sulfosuccinate
|> |> which according to a recent chemical catalog is now more "properly" called:
|> |>           Bis(2-ethylhexyl)sulfosuccinate Sodium Salt
|> |>           C20 H37 Na O7 S
|> |> I believe that this is the active ingredient in a medicine called "Colace",
|> |> which is a stool softener.  Ask a pharmacist.
|> 
|> If this is indeed true, one should see drowning ducks at any sewage
|> settling plant.  Any decent-sized metropolis must perforce include
|> quite a lot of people with constipation at any one time.

Believe me, it _is_ true. I have done work on cleaning up after oil
leakages in the sea, and have had the opportunity to see the effect 
on sea-birds up close. The oil dissolves the fat that keep the feathers
together, and enables the birds to stay afloat. It also takes away the
protection against cold that the feathers offer. In other words, if
they don't drown, they freeze to death from the cold water. Believe me,
it is _not_ a pretty or amusing sight.

BTW, can anyone confirm what someone told me that this effect is
actually permanent? I heard that once this fat was dissolved, it
didn't return, so that the bird, even with proper care, was unable
to regain it's ability to swim and to stand cold water.
-- 
    ___   ___
__  |__)   |    Bjoern Tore Sund (BT)   Quote: "Nothing!"
    |__)   |    bjornts@ii.uib.no              - Marvin

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science
From: ketil@ii.uib.no (Ketil M. Malde)
Subject: Re: Nitrogen Narcosis
Reply-To: ketil@ii.uib.no
Organization: student of numerical analysis at the University of Bergen, Norway
	<BxsM66.Eo@chinet.chi.il.us>
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:56:56

>>>>> On Mon, 16 Nov 1992 05:06:05 GMT, saj@chinet.chi.il.us (Stephen Jacobs) said:

	Stephen> it has extremely low solubility in blood.  Oxygen
	Stephen> isn't so fortunate, and oxygen narcosis can happen.

I wouldn't recommend this as a quick and easy way to get a buzz, as O2
is poisonous, I think it was around 1.7 atm partial
pressure...possibly a little more.

--
 = Ketil Malde                     In real life:  ketil@ii.uib.no =
 = Nuke the whales!                    Honk if you love unicorns! =
From: ccuppern@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Cyndi Cuppernell)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science
Subject: Re: What is the purpose of the large and small prong on
Date: 21 Nov 92 04:29:49 GMT
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology

wingo@apple.com (Tony Wingo) writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.033022.4518@bbxrbk>, russ@bbxrbk (Russ
Kepler) wrote:
>> Ahh, but the *real* question is why the prongs have holes in the
tips...
>Back when these plugs were first standardized, manufacturers did
>not have access to corrosion-free spring alloys to make the socket
>contacts out of, so the sockets had spring-loaded detents that
>engaged the holes in the plug contacts, to guarentee a good
>contact.  The holes became part of the specification for the plug,
>so they are still there even though they haven't been necessary
>for a long, long time.

But at least one manufacturer makes use of them.  I have a
humidifier/vaporizer made by DeVilbis (sp?).  It makes the hot
vapor by using two electrodes in the water.  The electrodes and the
enclosure around the electrodes tend to get coated with deposits
(calcium, I believe), and require an occasional cleaning.  To open
the enclosure, you must insert the plug into a place on the
enclosure, which then unlocks.  Then you twist off the top.  I'm
sure they don't want people opening it up, exposing the electrodes,
and then thinking, "Duh, I wonder what would happen if I plug this
into the wall while I have this open.  Duh, let's see what happens
now, while I touch these two metal things."  So what they did is
engineer it so that when you twist off the top of the enclosure,
a pin drops through the holes in the prongs, preventing you from
unplugging the plug from the enclosure.  The pin retracts when you
twist the top back onto the rest of the electrode enclosure,
allowing you to remove the plug again.-- 
                 
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science
From: rspeirs@javelin.sim.es.com (Ron Speirs)
Subject: Re: What is the purpose of the large and small prong on 2-pronged plugs
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Corp.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:24:49 GMT

In article <1e8g31INNgmo@gap.caltech.edu> carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
>In article <dlphknob.721926598@cs1.bradley.edu>, dlphknob@cs1.bradley.edu (Jemaleddin Cole) writes:
>>In <1e66sbINN953@gap.caltech.edu> carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) writes:
>>
>>I don't think you have answered his question yet.  Which is the ground?
>>The larger or smaller plug?
>
>The question was "why are the two prongs not the same size."  My response
>answered that question.  If you want to figure out which is which, find a
>properly installed polarized socket and check to see which side is neutral.

The convention in the USA is that the narrow prong is "hot" and the wide
prong is "common".  If you look at a wall socket, you will also see that 
the screw to attach the "hot" wire is brass- or brass-colored, and the
screw to attach the "common" wire is silver-colored.

You can also identify the "hot" wire in an outlet by using a Neon Lamp
type tester (the kind of tester which has a small neon lamp in a housing
and two test wires).  Hold one lead of the tester in your fingers and
touch the other lead to one hole of the socket.  If you are on the hot
wire, you will see a faint glow in the neon lamp (you may have to look
carefully).  You will see no glow on the common or ground.  Don't touch
anything else when you do this.  Don't do this with any other kind of
tester.  If you're not sure what kind of tester you have, don't do it at all.

Ron Speirs, Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, Utah