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From: calvert@QueensU.CA (John Calvert)
Subject: possible bug - hide window on startup (was Re: Screensavers for OS/2)
Summary: deskpic, pulse, chron and enhanced editor do not start hidden when
	shadowed in Startup (Session Setting start minimized, Window Setting
	minimize hides window)
Organization: Queen's University, Kingston, Canada
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 15:28:53 GMT

In article <1io9gnINNkd@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> unruh@physics.ubc.ca (William Unruh) writes:
>calvert@QueensU.CA (John Calvert) writes:
>>I can't seem to get deskpic to start minimized. I have this selected in the
>
>Go into settings for Deskpic to the Window page and check minimize to
>desktop rather than to viewer. that should cure the above problems
>( Does anyone have a suggestion as to why?

Actually I want it to hide the window on startup, not minimize to desktop,
and I do have this selected in the Window Settings.

My problem occurs when deskpic appears in Startup as a shadow. If I place
the actual deskpic in Startup everything works fine. The exact same thing
happens with the OS/2 program Pulse. If it is shadowed to Startup it starts
open, if it is actually in Startup it starts hidden.

I have a similar problem with Chron and the OS/2 program Enhanced Editor.
Except that placing the actual Chron in Startup does not fix the problem.
I have not tried moving EE. Is this behaviour a known bug in OS/2? Does it
go away in the service pak X6000, or in v2.1 beta? Is it worth reporting to
IBM?


-- 
John Calvert

calvert@mast.queensu.ca
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: What's Needed with CD-ROM?
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:05:20 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1ikr4aINNirc@aludra.usc.edu> durby@usc.edu (Dennis Durby) writes:
>I am planning to add a CD-ROM to my new system RSN. I want to be able 
>to run CD-ROM sound stuff (like soundblaster-type apps?), use CD-ROM 
>data bases, etc. What will I need in order to run such apps besides the 
>CD-ROM drive and SCSI daisy chain? Do I need a soundblaster card, or
>something else, and will I need software other than or in addition to 
>OS/2 MMPI stuff? Where can I read up on this? TIA!

No.  All you need to load CD-ROM software (like the Walnut Creek
library) is included with your GA+SP package.  Install the SCSI
driver, install the CDROM.IFS, and away you go.  The CD-ROM will look
like a 500MB, read-only floppy disk.

To use the audio portion, you need a CD-ROM player that supports
audio.  Most do, these days.  You'll also need MMPM/2.  Since this is
being included in OS/2 2.1, this will soon cease to be a problem.  You
may need a special driver, but I expect them to be available by the
time that OS/2 2.1 ships in its final form.

As for a SoundBlaster or other sound card, you won't need one unless
you have multi-media software that uses synthesized or digitized
audio.  It is optional, but well worth it.

You might be able to kill two birds with one stone by getting the
SoundBlaster Pro.  This card is a sound card, and it comes with its
own proprietary CD-ROM interface.  I think drivers for it are
beginning to become available, so ask around if you're considering
this.  Note that only two or three CD-ROM players will work with the
SB-Pro card, since it is not a SCSI interface.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith)
Subject: Re: Win Progs on 2.1 beta
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 07:01:46 GMT

In article <1ikn1rINN5ov@hpscit.sc.hp.com> kitchin@lf.hp.com (Bruce Kitchin) writes:
>I've had a problem since 2.1 beta.  Before this I didn't do much with
>windows programs except in full screen.  Therefore I don't know if this
>is a new problem with the beta or one that has existed before or some
>mix of the two.
>
>I load a windows program with all of its supporting files into a directory.
>Then I create a new program object on the WPS Desktop and fill in the
>file name, working directory, the title on the General page.  When I
>look at the Session Page, I find that it has selected OS/2 Window as
>the session type!  However, if I migrate the application (a real pain since

The easiest soloution I have found is to make a copy of an existing program
and then change the settings to point to the new program. This is fairly
quick and painless. I agree migration is a pain ( Just thank the lord you
are not a bird ) so avoid it at all costs. 

Martin Smith
msmith@netcom.com



>it has to scan the entire partition on which the program resides and since
>I have to unselect all of the other applications it finds [I specify only
>window programs so it is not as bad as it could be]), it is set up properly.
>We shouldn't have to migrate a program to make it work as a window's program.
>If I don't it only works as a full screen Windows program.  If I modify the
>settings of the program (as I did in one case to restrict that one to
>COM1 only), then it wont run at all even if I open full screen windows
>and use the File Run menu option to run it.  I hope this is a bug that
>will be fixed in the released code.  Has anyone else seen it.
>
>Another oddity.  When I do migrate window programs (whether from the
>installation or afterwards), the session is selected as DOS Window rather
>than WIN-OS2.  However, the settings are marked as WIN-OS/2 settings.
>
>One further thing.  When I look at Win-OS/2 settings, it has an item
>Win runmode but nothing is shown or selectable.  Is this a not-yet
>implemented item?
>
>


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: kumarad@ecf.toronto.edu (KUMARADAS JOSEPH CARL)
Subject: Re: Can I get E3? (text mode EPM?)
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 02:37:35 GMT

In article <93005.062011CXC19@psuvm.psu.edu> <CXC19@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>While looking through the docs and source macros of EPM 5.51
>I found a reference to E3, a text mode precursor to EPM.
>Apparently E3 uses the same macro language as EPM, and many
>of the macros written for one editor will run in the other.
>I have been reluctant to spend much time getting to know EPM
>because it runs only in the Work Place Shell.  Does anyone
>know anything about E3 and its availability?
>
>
>Carl Cotner
>cxc19@psuvm.psu.edu

As you say E3 is the test verion of EPM (actually EPM evolved from E3).
As far as I know it is is IBM Internal Use Only.  I used it while at IBM
exclusively.  It is very fast, and powerful.  It is used almost exculsively
by developers at IBM.  I don't know why IBM didn't release it with EPM 
which was also Internal Use Only.

Carl.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: lindor@eng.umd.edu (Lindor Eric Henrickson)
Subject: Re: Screensavers for OS/2
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 20:25:15 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <C0MBLs.JKB@knot.ccs.queensu.ca> calvert@QueensU.CA (John Calvert) writes:
>I've run in to several problems with deskpic, none of which cripples it
>but which all make it less attractive. I am running OS/2 v2.0 X02000.
>
>When I open deskpic it tries to appear as only a title bar, but actually
>ends up with the current wps image as a window. I can move this window off
>to the edge of my real wps. When deskpic is activated for the first time
>this wps image window disappears. This phantom wps image window happens each 
>time I open the deskpic window.

If you minimize this title bar to an icon, I think you'll be OK.  I don't
have the problem of it starting up as a title bar, but if I double click
on the minimized icon, I get essentially the same behavior (title bar,
WPS image).

> [Deleted...]

>
>If I have a comm program open, but not necessarily dialed in anywhere,
>deskpic only blanks the mouse pointer. When I type a key or use the mouse
>deskpic then flashes its screen saver image for a second before the wps 
>returns.
>

I have this problem when I run elvis1.6 (DOS version of vi clone)
in a DOS box.  I don't have this problem when running ckermit for
OS/2.  Is your comm program a DOS program?  Maybe this "bug" has
something to do with DOS windows.

[ more deleted...]
>Has anyone else observed these problems? Comments? These and the fact that
>it won't activate for full-screen sessions are all that stand between
>deskpic and "greatness".
>
>-- 
>John Calvert
>
>calvert@mast.queensu.ca


LH
lindor@eng.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: soh3@quads.uchicago.edu (min-woong sohn)
Subject: Re: dcf/2
Reply-To: soh3@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Sociology, Univ. of Chicago
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:18:15 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.215549.8875@scott.skidmore.edu> pvonk@scott.skidmore.edu (Pierre VonKaenel) writes:
>
>Has anyone had their VISA/MC charged for an order placed within the
>last two months?  
>

I haven't checked yet.  

I just received a letter from Proportional Software Corp
saying that I will receive my copy in two to three weeks.  Since they
promised that I would receive it this week, that means two to three week
delay, I guess.

Min
From: rommel@jonas.gold.sub.org (Kai Uwe Rommel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Sytos Plus software extremely slow
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:28:00 GMT
Organization: Private

In article <1993Jan5.204354.26741@csc.ti.com> jsykes@dadd.ti.com writes:
>I've been very impressed with Sytos Plus for OS/2 2.0. I have a Wangtek 60M
>tape drive with a Wangtek PC36 controller card.
>
>It achieves about 4Mb/minute transfer rate and doesn't seem to slow other
>windows much.
>
>I've never had a need to reformat a tape just to get it would work with Sytos
>Plus.
>
>I think the tape drive/controller setup is going to affect the backup speed
>as much or more than the software used.

I think the times of floppy based tape drives or such with their own
controller cards and of all kinds of QIC 40/80 times is over. I have
used such tape drives for years and all the time it was an endless
series of problems, bugs and disappointment. I really wonder (after
reading the CMS announcement) how they can call such drives
high-performance and reliable and so on.

Finally, I sold these drives and moved to a SCSI QIC 1000 drive, one
of those with 1GB cartridges. It connects easily to any Adaptec (or
probably other, I haven't tried such, only Adaptec 1542 and 1742) SCSI
host adapter (no extra card that eats up a slot), has a MTBF of 80000
hours (compared to 15000 of a CMD DJ-20), provides a speed of about
16MB per minute (on large files, of course, otherwise even fast HD's
aren't seeking fast enough!) and since using it, I did not have ANY
read error or other reliability problem. 1GB is a convenient size :-)
and at the time of this writing the 2GB drives are at the same prize
the 1GB one was when I bought it. The drive is even considerably
faster than a same-prized DAT drive. With such a drive, you can easily
implement an efficcient backup strategy without too much work and time
consumption.

Of course, at a prize of about $1300 it isn't exactly targeted at a
home user but if you have to rely on it (and it *has* several times
saved me from big disasters and also made disk upgrades and
repartitionings quite comfortable), it is money well invested. Also,
it's a useful archive media.

Such drives are available from Tandberg (TDC-4120 and 4200) and
Archive (Anaconda series) and possibly other vendors. At least the
Tandberg drives (which I use) but probably most SCSI-2 drives work
fine with the GTAK 2.01 software.

Kai Uwe Rommel

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From: rcmerrit@apgea.army.mil (Robert C. Merritt <rcmerrit>)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Comanche in OS/2
Date: 5 Jan 93 14:31:04 GMT
Organization: APG-Edgewood

In article <1993Jan5.105910.23184@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sorourke@lonestar.utsa.edu (Sean J. Orourke) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.193938.1@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu> cvetp036@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu writes:
>[some deleted]
>>
>>I still think that for games DOS would be better than OS/2. Make that 32 bit
>>DOS extenders games. There's just a bit too much overhead in OS/2 for a game
>>to run at optimal speed.
>
>I think the best games under OS/2 would be the same ones that are being ported
>to Windows.  The Sim* line of games, and in fact any games that use windows a
>lot and aren't that speed-intensive, would be really nice to have as OS/2 apps.


Yeah and I would like to add that in general, I'm not into action games or
"real timers". I like to sit back and think. I just suggested that in the
furtue, there will probably be games on dos that people will want to play
that will not run in OS/2. Using FAT instead of HPFS will allow people to
boot of a floppy with dos (while os/2 is not running) and use the hard drive
to store and play them. Thus no compatablity HAS to be lost. Although I want
to avoid this as much as possible due to the whole purpose ogf getting os/2 was
to USE os/2 NOT dos. ;)
Rob Merritt
From: gouvea@zariski.harvard.edu (Fernando Gouvea)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: lstpm102.zip on hobbes locks my computer!
Date: 5 Jan 93 14:12:43 GMT
Organization: Colby College Dept. of Math/CS

In article <1ialdtINNp7g@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> ochealth@unixg.ubc.ca (ochealth) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.162957.4404@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ronald Jones) writes:
>:I downloaded lstpm102.zip from hobbes yesterday. Its a shareware
>:list program that looks nice from its description. Unfortionately it
>:locks my computer bad enough to need the power switch. Anyone else
>:tried it?
>Started LstPM without any command line args, eh? hee hee :-)
>Did that on mine too.
>
>It doesn't lock the system: just press ctrl-esc, and wait a sec,
>then you can kill it.

I've contacted the author (on GEnie), and he is aware of the problem. It
seems that it happens with GA+SP but not with plain GA. The problem has to
do with the following: if you view a file, exit, and restart LstPM, it's
supposed to reload that file. That works if the file exists; it hangs if
the file isn't there. It works fine for drag-and-drop, though.

The earlier version, by the way, works fine.


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From: rbotimer@max.ct.gmr.com (R Douglas Botimer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Does QPro4W work with 2.1 beta?
Keywords: QPW 2.1 BETA
Date: 5 Jan 93 14:05:41 GMT

In article <17779@umd5.umd.edu> brianw@macbeth.umd.edu (Brian Wiersema) writes:
:In article <11553@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> king@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
:>Does Borlands Quatro-Pro for Windows work with the 2.1 beta?
:>I have neither, but will likely get both if they work together.
:>I seem to recall that with the SP installed, people were
:>able to tweak a few settings and get most but not all of it working.
:
:I haven't had any trouble with it under GA+CSD.  Just set DPMI to a
:reasonably decent value (mine's 10MB).  I haven't tried it with the
:2.1 beta, but I assume it, too, will work just fine (for a Windows
:program, that is).  Hey Borland!  How about Quattro Pro for OS/2?!

Tried QPW and DBD with the 2.1 BETA last night and everything worked fine.   
Seamless Windows was smooth and relatively fast (on a 386SX/25).  The DBD works  
fine, it didn't with GA+SP on my systems.

Ditto on the QPOS/2!!

Doug
From: CHM103@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: PmComm: Where can I get it?
Date: 10 Jan 93 17:25:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.93010.122537CHM103
Organization: Penn State University

I think the subject says it  all.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: widow@camelot.bradley.edu (Shaun Burnett)
Subject: Re: Does anyone know...Swap File
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date:  4 Jan 93 22:04:56 GMT

In <1993Jan4.185513.15544@apgea.army.mil> rcmerrit@apgea.army.mil (Robert C. Merritt <rcmerrit>) writes:


>Could someone tell me where I could look to see my swap file, see its size
>and or control its size/existance?

	I created a "swap.cmd" file with the following text in it:

		dir d:\os2\system\swapper.dat

	Change the drive and path portion to match your system.  The
	path your swapper.dat file is in you config.sys file on the
	line that contains "SWAPPATH".  Do a "help swappath" from an
	OS/2 command line for more information on changing the path or
	the parameters.

	There are also a couple of utilities that will monitor
	the size of the swapper.dat file.  One will even warn
	you when it becomes a certain size.  Check out
	ftp-os2.nmsu.edu in a subdirectory under "/pub/os2/2.0".


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From: pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: ms_sh (shell) bugfix uploaded
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 02:13:14 EST
Organization: Berry Communications

hankedr@mail.auburn.edu (Darrel Hankerson) writes:

> Ian Stewartson has released ver 2.1 of ms_sh, a shell for OS/2 1.x--2.0
> and MSDOS.

This brings up an interesting question.  As part of my current ongoing
campaign to cease being unemployed, I am trying to learn as much as I
can about UNIX, beginning by reading books about it.  I realize that
sooner or later I will need to get some hands-on experience with it, but
I don't have access to a UNIX system right now.  I have been seriously
considering installing Linux or Coherent on my 386, but I'm not sure
how much work is involved in getting them to peacefully coexist with
OS/2.

Would a UNIX shell for OS/2 be close enough?  If I can get the
equivalent of UNIX experience by making OS/2 behave like UNIX, that
would simplify matters immensely.  Please tell me whether you think that
makes sense, and if so, which shell I should start with.  Thanks!

-- 
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From: Chris.Collins@f366.n632.z3.fidonet.org (Chris Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Does anyone know...Swap
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 13:06:12

 > From: rcmerrit@apgea.army.mil (Robert C. Merritt <rcmerrit>) 
 > Organization: APG-Edgewood 
 >  
 >  
 > Could someone tell me where I could look to see my swap file, see its size 
 > and or control its size/existence? 
 > Rob Merritt 
 >  
 Rob, 
     Check your config.sys file and it will point you to the directory 
that your swapfile resides in (\OS2\SYSTEM is the default) 
 
     You could also load MEMSTAT 2.40 and this will give you a running 
total on your free memory, swap file size and the amount of free hard  
disk space. 
 
     Archive should be called MEMS204.* I believe. 
 
     Hope that this helps, 
 
     Chris 
 
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From: Mary.Evans@launchpad.unc.edu (Mary Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Quicken for windows
Date: 10 Jan 93 12:25:27 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <2B48B71C.2A11@deneva.sdd.trw.com> reimert@mamacass.etdesg.trw.com (Scott P. Reimert) writes:
>In article <Jan02.221642.17056@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> tom@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Tom Aurand) writes:
>>Has anyone successfully installed Quicken Version 2 for Windows on OS/2 2.x ?
>>The install program wants to replace .../win*/system/commdlg.dll which is
>>locked/in-use during normal operation of winos2.  Manually installing
>>Quicken for Windows does not seem possible with their compression/decompression
>>FILENAME.QZ$ business.
>>
>>Thanks for your help!
>
>I guess I cheated.  I renamed the existing .DLL files Quicken went after to
>*.OS2, then did the install. Once the install was done I deleted the new ones
>and renamed the old ones back to *.DLL. I've been using it for awhile now with
>out any (known) adverse affects.
>
I missed this thread.  What problem wer you guys having?  I just installed
Quicken in winos2 using the run command, then migrated it.  I also have a
shadow on the desktop, and it works just fine.  No problems, missing
files, etc.

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From: ygoland@babbage.seas.ucla.edu (The Jester)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Irwin accutrack and OS/2 questions
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:14:55 GMT
Organization: Republicans for Sanity

In article <4899@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU> rvaniwaa@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Ronald J. Vaniwaarden) writes:
>I am considering the purchase of a tape drive.  Can anyone give me some
>information on the Irwin units?  I am curious as to how well their software
>performs as to a command line restore, PM interface, scheduling unattended
>backups, and price.  Can someone fill me in as to some of these details?

Well I own an accutrack and have the pm software. First the software
is a bit buggy, and tends to crash the system. But I have had no
problems once I start a backup or a restore and I haven't had any
tapes corrupted. But they defintly need to do more testing. Also
when you install it, DO NOT LET IT MODIFY YOUR CONFIG.SYS IT WILL
DESTROY IT!!!! 

As for the tapes themselves. I can backup my 210 drive in around 1/2
hour. The tape software itself, when it works, is quite powerful. It
has a library function so it keeps tracks of whats on your tapes so
if you want to find something you don't have to start searching
tapes. I also believe it has a time function but for the life of me
I can't remember and I'm at school so I can't check it out.

All in all the hardware is fine, its fast and reliable and not all
that expensive. Their compression algorithm is fairly good averaging
between 1.5:1 and 2:1. (I got around 1.8:1 when I backed up my drive
and 99% of my material is executable code) And I don't think their
PM software will give you any long term problems but you should be
aware that it is buggy.

				The Jester

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