From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari)
Subject: Re: "Windoze" slow? Naah...Re: pc and mac: was RE: 486 and mac benchmarks
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:47:59 GMT

In article <trimble.724558422@ph-meter.beckman.uiuc.edu> trimble@ph-meter.beckman.uiuc.edu (Chris Trimble) writes:
> Sound Blaster - sorry, but most people have more serious things to do 
> with their Macs than play "Wing Commander II" (BTW - don't forget that
> DOS machines have the biggest game market out there. Don't think people
> are just buying them for BUSINESS....). Are you talking about Ether cards?
> $150. SCSI cards .. oh, that's right - that's built into the Macintosh :)
> Um... mouse cards? oh -- that's also built into the Mac. Video cards? Well,
> unless you need more than 16-bit graphics (IIvx), which 95% of people
> DON'T anyway, you won't need one of those for the Mac, either.


	True, but I can buy <$200 24 bit cards forthe PC.  I know of
	at least two that you can buy *retail* for that much.  

	Of course, they don;t integrate very well.  PC's can do the
	24 bit thing cheaper, but badly.  But can they due the seamless
	monitor thing--even badly?


>>    Why hasnt motorola keep up to pace with intel with product design?
>
> Good point. Motorola had a hard time producing the 040 at first, so there
> weren't a whole lot off of the assembly line right away. As far as
> cutting the data busses in half, like Intel does for the 486sx, 386sx, etc,
> why does make Intel more advanced with product design. Motoroller is working
> on the PowerChip as much as Intel is working on the P5, I'm sure.


	I believe he's referringto Motorola's apparent inability to
	get a faster version of the '040 out the door.  Just so you know, 
	though, Motorola does produce crippled chips.  Not crippled
	like Intel (FYI, the 386 dx halves the bus, the 486sx does not--
	it doesn't include a mathco)--they produce an MMUless version of
	the '030 (Amiga products use this to add cheap-030 cards, since
	Amigados doesn't use the MMU). 

	Motorola is waaay behind in getting anythingout the door.  The 88k
	market, which looked at one time to be a big part of the future
	of computing withered and died as motorola not only failed to
	fix a glaring and obvious bug in the first (and only) 88k
	(the cache fill problem)--how long overdue is the 88110? 

	They also seem to have sunk pretty low, lower than Intel even,
	with their, "We're not going to make a '050 because the 060 will
	be soooo good!!" nonsense. 


>>    If macs are so easy to use, then why is it that in our computers
>>labs that macs are generally unused.  (This is very true.)
>
> Heh. Probably because the operators are too short-sighted to figure
> out how to link them together - so people can ACTUALLY DO THEIR WORK
> BETWEEN THE TWO (yes, it can be done!). So people who have always had
> their work on the PCs stay there because there isn't an effort to try
> to even out the usage in the lab (by buying WordPerfect/Mac, Lotus123/Mac)


	Umm, I can say that it's the opposite here at UofMD.  Generally,
	it's much easier to get a PC than a Mac.

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