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From: yusuke@hara.cs.keio.ac.jp (Yusuke Hiwasaki)
Subject: Re: 415 joint for Aulos Baroque flute
Organization: Keio University, Yokohama, Japan.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 09:08:34 GMT


Hi Will,

>Someone said that soneone makes a
>joint for it at 415.  Others say that someone has to re bore the
>instrument.  I'm currious to hear what anyone has to sayabout this.  Any

Yes, there certainly is a baroque flute maker who makes middle joint for
415 Hz, and re-bores the instrument. And quriously, it is the same
person! His name is Roderick Cameron, and is a very famous baroque flute
maker. He lives in California and has his workshop in Scottland. On his
catalogue, the instrument is described as "stretched-limo" version of
Aulos Grenzer, completely rebored by himself.  However, I don't think
that you can get the middle joint alone from him, and I recommend you of
buying another Aulos baroque flute in 415, which is a copy of Stansby
Jr., original owned by Masahiro Arita (who happens to be my traverso
teacher!). It is also made of plastic, but the quality of the instrument
is *really* good. It must be a lot cheaper (I don't know the price in
US) and quicker (I don't even know wheather they sell it in US) than
ordering a flute to be made.

IMHO the Aulos Grenzer type is not very good for use.

I am sorry that I cannot provide you with the postal address of Rod (I
don't have it with me at a moment), but if somebody really wants to contact
him, I will post his address to this newsgroup. I have to warn you that
his waiting list for making flute is full and he does not take orders
anymore (that is what I heard as a rumour).

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Subject: Luthiers, Eastern U.S.
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Date: 02 Sep 1992 20:18:54 -0400
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I don't know if this fellow is still active, but he use to make fine instruments
James Cox, Luthier, Ltd.
Stringed Instruments for Early Music
429 Fawcett Street
Baltimore, MD 21211
(301) 235-0344
 
Hope this helps.  Good luck.
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From: michael9@cs.mun.ca (Michael Sullivan)
Subject: Re: Where can I get COSMOS on CD?
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 10:47:57 GMT

craigs@pyrtech.mis.pyramid.com (Craig Shipley) writes:

>In article <1992Aug21.201013.18578@news.Hawaii.Edu> gmiyamo@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Del, The Timpani March Hare) writes:
>>Hi!
>>
>>Does anyone know where I can get the soundtrack for Carl Sagan's
>>COSMOS on CD?
>>
>>Thanks in advance!
>>
>>	- Gail

>Nowhere, as of today, it dosn't exist on CD. Sorry.


  I don't know about the main theme, but much of the music used in Cosmos is
taken from various sources.  Ie, I've heard stuff from Pink Floyds Meddle,
and from Holst's, The Planets. It's possible that any other (thus far 
unidentified) music was also taken from other, more obscure places.

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From: jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
Subject: Re: Where can I get COSMOS on CD?
Organization: Marriott Library, University of Utah
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:51:28 GMT

In article <BtI7sB.Kpu@solbourne.com> kucharsk@solbourne.com (William Kucharski) writes:

>While reading article <1992Aug24.193641.7726@unixg.ubc.ca>, I noticed that
>lindholm@ucs.ubc.ca (George Lindholm) said the following:
> >>   I don't know about the main theme, but much of the music used in Cosmos is
> >> taken from various sources.  Ie, I've heard stuff from Pink Floyds Meddle,
> >> and from Holst's, The Planets. It's possible that any other (thus far 
> >> unidentified) music was also taken from other, more obscure places.
> >
> >(The almighty line-swallower has struck again)
> >
> >"Sequencer" by Synergy is another source of music.

>Much of the music can be found on various Vangelis albums.  Two I remember are
>"Heaven and Hell" (from which came the main theme) and "Albedo: 0.39" (from
>which came "Alpha," the song they played during evolution sequences).

Too bad these Vangelis albums are not on CD either.


Jeff Jonsson
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From: rost@rgb.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Subject: Re: New Crimson Live Boxed Sets
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 26 AUG 92 16:42:11    


In article <malcolm.714776754@wrs.com>, malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes...
>There's actually been quite a few 
>Crimson boots (much to Robert's dismay) but many surface with different
>titles. Theres a few from 1969. Very few from 70-71. 

This is because the band didn't play anywhere!  After the first tour the band
busted up and it didn't remain stable long enough to mount a new tour until the
"Islands" band in 72.  Check out the book in "Young Person's Guide..." for the
sordid details.

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From: pnorman@kean.ucs.mun.ca (Peter T.  Norman)
Subject: Warner Canada Telephone Numbers
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:26:08 GMT

Hi

I promised to post the number to Warner Canada when I got it; here it is!

(416) 291-2515
(416) 291-0271 national order desk

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From: davi@saturn.glassboro.edu
Subject: CULTURE CLUB/BOY GEORGE Best Of CDs Track Listings
Organization: Glassboro State College, Glassboro, NJ 08028
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:25:15 GMT



  Could someone please email me the track listings for the 
  following CDs...

     Boy George - Spindazzle (Greatest Hits, Boy George & Culture Club)
     Culture Club - 12" Mixes
     Culture Club - Best of

  PLEASE EMAIL   davi@gboro.glassboro.edu
  OR REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE...

THANKS!!!
 -Mike
From: bill.hoff%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Bill Hoff) 
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Blues
Date: 27 Aug 92 10:04:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Travel Online, St. Louis, MO
Reply-To: bill.hoff%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Bill Hoff) 


F >(*) Can you please give me some good blues CD titles. 
F >My blues knowledge is rather limitated : 
F >Robert Cray, Gary Moore (the last CDs), BB King, 
F >Albert King, and some others.
F >(*) Can I have your opinion about Buddy Guy ?
F >
F >Many thanks.
F >
F >		Eric                                                      
                
Get your hands on a copy of Buddy Guy & Junior Wells live in montreux;
its on the Evidence label. It's Buddys finest recording and possibly the 
best guitar oriented blues CD ever released. As to my opinion about Buddy;
How in the world did Stevie Ray Vaughn get so popular? While the best 
blues guitarist since Freddie King (Buddy) gets no notice by the main 
stream... It's a crime!!
 
                   Bill
  

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From: larsa@elixir.e.kth.se (Lars Almqvist)
Subject: --> DATABASE of PICTURES?! <--
Reply-To: larsa@elixir.e.kth.se (Lars Almqvist)
Organization: School of EE, Royal Institute of Technology, Sweden
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:04:21 GMT

Anyone know of a database of _pictures/images_ of CD/LP covers/booklets
(i.e. GIF, JPEG or similar)? I'd like to get in touch with one...

Please let me know at larsa@e.kth.se...

/Lasse
From: kevin@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Kevin Scott)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: overrated CDs
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:32:56 GMT
Organization: system 6626 BBS, Winnipeg MB

doucet@ripolin.laas.fr (Jean-Etienne Doucet,149,6323) writes:

> In article oPg2PB3w164w@sys6626.bison.mb.ca, kevin@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Kevin
> > 
> >I'd be interested in reading about what people consider to be their 
> >choices of the most overrated CDs of all time. Say 10 or so...
> > 
> >I can think of AT LEAST ten, but I'll wait for someone else to start the 
> >ball rolling.  Maybe include a few comments as to why as well.
> > 
> >This is very informal, not a poll.
> > 
> >KS
> >
> >;--- (Kevin Scott) a user of sys6626, running waffle 1.64
> >;E-mail: kevin@sys6626.bison.mb.ca
> >;system 6626: 63 point west drive, winnipeg manitoba canada R3T 5G8
> 
> 
> (Excuse me but english is not my usual language.)
> What do you mean by `overrated CD' ? Falsely praised ?
> Unduly sold by millions ?
> I know what an overrated musician is, but not a CD...
> 
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By overrated I mean a CD which seems to be universally praised as being 
so wonderful but is not, or at least, not as good as people seem to 
think.
 
KS

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From: Paco Ojeda <Paco_Ojeda_Gonzalez@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Sony mini-disc?
Date: 31 Aug 1992 16:03:55 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation
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In article <1992Aug31.141902.2809@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
22347-mcconnell, rcmcc@hera.uucp writes:
>The summer 1992 issue of the Noteworthy catalog
>has a full page ad from Sony on the mini-disc.

What is this catalog about? This is the first time I hear anything about
it actually being in print and/or available anywhere.

>Has there been a discussion comparing and contrasting
>the mini-disc and the digital-compact cassette?

I've been keeping up as much as I can with articles and such about both
formats. I think there are several issues to keep in mind.
1. Sound
Both formats compress the signal by removing occurrences of the same
frequencies but with less amplitude at a given time. Articles claim that
the difference will be unnoticeable. On the other hand, I've heard from
associates of mine from the audio industry that have had a chance to test
the devices, that there is some loss in the signal, particularly with
ambience stuff (reverb and such). I guess we'll just have to see for
ourselves when we have acces to the equipment and are able to check it
out.

2. Portability
Well, the DCC will initially be available (as far as I know) only as a
home model, whereas the DCC will be readily available. However, prices
have not been set yet, but I'm sure will be around $400-500 initially. At
the same time, you are now able to find portable and very small DAT
machines for about the same price. Of course, without the compromise of
music compression.

3. Software availability
No, it's not time to get rid of the CD collection that you've painfully
acquired through the years. This seems to be the most immediate concern
for most people that I've heard talking about the new formats. At the
same time, it's unclear at this point what kind of availability we'll
have of pre-recorded tapes.

Would I get one? Well, my main use for such a beast would be to have good
and small carry-around sound, without skipping, without pitch problems. I
guess it's a matter of time before the most popular portable format
becomes a new standard.

And speaking of skipping, Fisher now makes a new portable CD player that,
just like MD and DCC, reads ahead some of the musical material (in this
case, by rotating the CD at twice the given speed) and storing it in a
buffer, thus allowing time to compensate for skips and such. Can you jog
with it? Probably not.


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From: Paco Ojeda <Paco_Ojeda_Gonzalez@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: plastic sleeves for CD storage
Date: 31 Aug 1992 19:40:53 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation
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In article <Btv2KA.2rG@world.std.com> Richard H Schwartz,
rhs@world.std.com writes:
>I have seen some DJs who have scrapped all their jewel boxes and
>put their CDs into see-through vinyl sleeves.  This greatly cuts
>down the size and weight of what they carry with them to gigs.  The
>sleeves have room for the disc and front and back paper inserts.

I think I have what you're looking for. There is a company called
Univenture which has all kinds of alternative storage solutions for CD's.
Their CD-Viewpak 70's are designed with DJ's in mind. It's a cardboard
box with 70 Viewpak sleeves. They are in Dublin, OH and their phone
number is 614-761-2669

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From: reggel@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Hans-Juergen Reggel)
Subject: Jim Steinman
Originator: reggel@hphalle7a.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 09:22:56 GMT


Hi!

Not long ago there was a question about Jim Steinman. Here's what I have to
add to the list:

Pandora's Box: Original Sin (CD)
Pandora's Box: It's All Coming Back To Me Now (CD3)
Pandora's Box: Good Girls Go To Heaven (CD3)
Heaven And Hell (CD: Bonnie Tyler & Meat Loaf compilation; Steinman Tracks)

There should also be Pandora's Box: 12"ers available in Australia. Does
Anybody know?

                                                              Hans-Juergen
From: "steve campbell" <steve.campbell@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: meat loaf followup
Date: 23 Aug 92 15:50:17 EST
Reply-To: "steve campbell" <steve.campbell@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

EA>As a follow up to my Meat Loaf request, let me add this little
...
EA>since I am a big guy like Brother Loaf. I want to do the song "Read 'em
EA>and Weep" as part of my medley, thus the search for Dead Ringer. It would

Dead Ringer: Cleveland CDEPC-83645 (UK), Epic CD-83645 (Germany)
Dead Ringer/Bat Out of Hell: Sony 466829-2 (Germany)
No listings for US.

EA>also work out if anyone has a copy of the solo album that Jim Steinman put
EA>out of the stuff Meat Loaf didn't use which also contained that tune. I would
EA>like to find Dead Ringer on CD and have a couple of leads, but for now the
EA>big thing is finding that one tune by either artist so I can start the long
EA>process of sequencing the piano and string parts. If anyone has that album
EA>by Jim Steinman, I would like to get that album in its entirety so I would
EA>be quite happy to send a blank tape for it.

Sincerely,
Steve.Campbell@canrem.com
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From: hap@scubed.com (Hap Freiberg)
Subject: Re: What's an EP?
Organization: S-CUBED, A Division of Maxwell Labs; San Diego CA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:13:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.105833.15789@meiko.com> mike@meiko.com (Mike Stok) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.143819.6011@col.hp.com> judym@col.hp.com (Judy Miller) writes:
>>What's an EP?

EP is a left-over term from the vinyl days. Single play records were
45 rpm and contained two songs (front and back, a side or b side, etc.)
LPs (long playing) were 33 1/3 rpm and contained ~45 minutes of music 
devided between the two sides. EPs (extended play + 33 1/3) were meant 
to be a bridge between 45s and LPs: more songs than a 45 but cheaper than 
an LP. Eps began to be used extensively as demo discs and introductory
discs by new groups whose recording companies didn't want to gamble 
on the expense of a full LP. EPs were also used by the recording companies
as promos for existing artists.

Hope this helps to shed a bit of light...

Hap
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From: mike@pyrdc.UUCP (Mike Whitman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.marketplace
Subject: Re: War of the Worlds/Jeff Wayne
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:02:29 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology, Government Systems

In article <92238.120104DANW@wuvmd.wustl.edu>, DANW@WUVMD (Dan White) writes:
> 
> 
> I am looking for a copy of Jeff Wayne's War of The Worlds on CD.
> 
> I understand that there is also a CD out that has a few of the
> songs without narration, I would be interested in that as well.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
I have the CD set (it is two CD's) right in front of me. The ID number on 
the CD is C2K 35290 from Columbia. I bought mine at Tower Records. I haven't
seen/heard of a version without narration. I like the Richard Burton narration
since it adds to the story. Good luck finding it.

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From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: New Crimson Live Boxed Sets
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:37:47 GMT

rost@rgb.dec.com (Brian Rost) writes:

>>There's actually been quite a few 
>>Crimson boots (much to Robert's dismay) but many surface with different
>>titles. Theres a few from 1969. Very few from 70-71. 

>This is because the band didn't play anywhere!  After the first tour the band
>busted up and it didn't remain stable long enough to mount a new tour until the
>"Islands" band in 72.  Check out the book in "Young Person's Guide..." for the
>sordid details.

Then how did I find a tape of this cd? 

King Crimson - Lost Islands    The Dome, Brighton    10/16/71  

There were some live performances in 1971, but what you say is basically true. 

Hot Wacks also mentions:  
CADENCE AND CASCADE, a boot lp of a 5/29/71 show
GET THY BEARINGS   -  one lp side from Weeley Festival, Calcton  8/28/71, the
rest is 1969 recordings. 

I haven't double checked these against Fripp's tour dates list, but I can
attest that the accuracy of those lists is questionable. I saw a League of
Gentlemen show in 1981 that is not listed on the shows that Fripp lists by
that band, and I know someone else who was at a Crimson show in the 80's
taht is apparantly not listed in the tour dates, or is listed as rained
out when the event actaully happened. Granted, the dates of the boots are
probably more suspect than Fripp's tour lists. 

 - malcolm@wrs.com
From: brendan@otc.otca.oz (Brendan Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: LONGEST CDs IN THE WORLD LIST - Changes needed?
Date: 27 Aug 92 08:10:07 GMT

For nearly two years now I have maintained this list, and it has grown from a
list of about 60 CDs longer than 70 minutes to a list of well over 200 CDs
longer than 75 minutes.

Since the last issue was posted (#7), I have received an even bigger mountain
of CDs to go on the list.  If I keep the threshold at 75 minutes, the new list
would have about 350 entries.

Although I've automated the collation, sorting and formatting of the list, its
length is beginning to concern me, as I don't wish to waste bandwidth
(although it is only posted 4 times a year).

So, I'm opening up a forum on how best to handle this growth.  Some
suggestions:

	- Do nothing, let it grow
	- Raise the minimum time limit (77 minutes?)
	- Make the list the "100 longest" or "200 longest" CDs

So you, the "users" of the list, have a chance to tell me what you think
should be done!  This can be discussed here if it is of general interest, or
by e-mail to me.

I have no preconceived ideas about what should be done.  I'll do whatever the
majority would like.  How's that for democracy.

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From: KAMCHAR@ibm.cl.msu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: overrated CDs
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:52:12 GMT
Organization: Kamchatka Charlie

potrzebi@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (potrzebi) writes:
>kevin@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Kevin Scott) writes:
>
>> I'd be interested in reading about what people consider to be their 
>> choices of the most overrated CDs of all time. Say 10 or so...

>Here goes....

>2) The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's
>       What was once cutting-edge is now a little dated...
     Hey--don't diss something old.  The Beatles got more out of four tracks in
1967 than many artists have gotten out of 16-64 tracks since then.
> 
>3) Anything by the Eagles
>       I'm still trying to figure out what made this band so popular.
     This band became so popular because they came up the in innovation of
COUNTRY MUSIC SOUNDS behind some decent lyrics.  That most of their fans have
since stampeded onto the country music scene is proof that the Eagles knew they
found something that would spin lots of money from people who wanted to
consider themselves rock fans but actually had country hearts.
> 
Sorry about the top ten list, I'll have to look over the stuff later.

Kamchatka Charlie          KAMCHAR@ibm.cl.msu.edu