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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: cluedo
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>But Carolyn, this only makes sense if you know what Ludo is!  And I've
>heard of it, but don't remember.

Let me see if I can remember.... the Ludo board has four tokens each of red,
blue, green and yellow arranged at the corners of the board. Each player
selects a corner and then takes turns rolling a dice and moving one of his/her
tokens around the board. The object is to get all your tokens into Home in the
centre. The first player to do so wins the game. I last played that game with
my daughter when she was 3 and she won...... she also always wins at Yahtzee
these days.

>I'd forget my name if it weren't tattooed on my chest!
>
>Karen

Do you remember it now?

Carolyn
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Internet-Bitnet
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> >From: LNCJB%WOMBAT.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
> Can anyone explain to me how I wound up with a bitnet address on internet?
> I can't recall that ever happening before.

No, but in exploring the problem I discovered that a colleague of mine was
right yesterday when she kept telling me that her outgoing bitnet mail was
mysteriously turning into internet mail and thus being rejected by a
send-private list she was on.  I wish FWP would hurry up and log on and
tell me what's happening.  For ages our system has been configured to turn
mail addressed with .bitnet into internet mail (i.e., to send it from here
to UGA via internet, thus keeping our bitnet addresses out of the picture).
But suddenly mail addressed to user@node is also going to UGA as internet
mail, with our internet addresses.  In other words, it's now impossible to
send bitnet mail.  That suits me fine since it will keep me from having to
explain to confused e-mail beginners how to avoid bitnet.  But I can't
figure out why it suddenly changed.  Maybe our bitnet software is being
thrown away at last.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 10:18:00 -0600
From:         Bandwidth Pig <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: library automation and salmonbake bitching
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On Tue, 26 Jan 1993 CROSEN@bgsuopie.bitnet wrote:

> I wonder whether anyone would like to piggy-back a week at a big house in,
> say, Avon, which is south of Nag's Head, during the week following the
> Words-l Tarheel expedition?  Many of the rental units allow pets and
> accomodate up to 8-12 people comfortably.  It's just a thought, but

Sounds good to me. Cost?

-abh
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From:         Bandwidth Pig <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The Salmonbake Uprising
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On Wed, 27 Jan 1993, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> > >site for the FTF bake is telnet access.  Can the Portland Planners promise
> > >it to us?
> > nope.
>
> Uh oh....  I consider that the most serious drawback stated so far.  I'm

This is the most unacceptable blow thus far! We should write our
congresspersons at ONCE and protest!

Where is the EFF when you really need them.

-abh
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 11:18:03 GMT
From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: a couple of points
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        Graham's random interpretations of what he reads are very old. What worr
ies
        me is guys like Blomberg joining the gang. It's not as if I didn't write
        in english either.

        As for Graham, losing out to Peter Montgomery is humiliation enough. Why
        add to it?

So you're suggesting Peter Montgomery is the anonymous SIVM poster?  But he
wouldn't be such a gutless coward to hide behind an alias.  I mean, he's a
xtian for God's sake - stand up and be counted, and all that crap.  Very few
people on this group would be that wimpy.  I can only think of one to be
honest.

G
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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: signoff
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Peter:
:From: torkel@SICS.SE
:>
:>   Peter grumbles:
:>
:>   >Not always subtle. Try putting out a quote for scripture, or

:If that looks like a grumble to you, then you may well be projecting
:your own feelings onto it. I was simply indicating that the discussion
:of netiquette is not always subtle, as the previous comment had
:stated. I'm glad, in fact. It makes the discussion more lively.

You don't half talk a load of tripe at times.  Firstly, you have *clearly*
been bitching and griping about being criticised ever since you arrived
here; torkel isn't imagining it.  You've been picking at it like a raw scab.
Secondly, any subtlety on this group seems to have gone right over your
head, so it's no wonder you haven't seen it.  Are you sure we're your sort
of people?  Maybe you'd be more at home on a local BBS chatting to other
ex-wordslers like Adam Conn...

G
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From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Thunderbird
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>>Drinking that stuff in a previously unaltered state was ruinous.  It
>>could make Mogen David Extra Heavy Malaga taste drinkable by
>>comparison.
>>
>Or heck, Maneschevitz, any flavor.:-)  Actually, the blackberry and concord
>grape do fairly well over ice cream, and have been known to replace Nyquil
>on occasion.  Even Mogen David must taste better than that stuff.... <ECCCCH!>

YEEEEE!! Stand back everybody!!

Have you heard that Manischevitz and the Christian Brothers are
going into business together?

Yes, they are going to call the product "Manischagetz".

love, judith-stop-me-before-I-pun-again....
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From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>
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              24 Jan 1993 10:10:55 +1100 from <LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU>

On Sun, 24 Jan 1993 10:10:55 +1100 <LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU> said:
>
>The two boxers were Lionel Rose and Johnny Famechon. Did the  movie/mini-
>series called 'Rose Against The Odds' ever receive international distribution?
>I didn't watch it myself....I was turned off by the promos.

I wouldn't have gotten it if they were American boxers; I'm turned off by
boxing.
>
>Carolyn

Evelyn
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> > > Well, to quote a certain musician,
> > > I'm orf. See you Thurs. eve.
> > >
> > > Pm
>
> >Just don't go into haydn.
> >
> >Ken
>
> Don't worry.  He'll be bach.
>
> Chris

Tell a woman what you told me.  Or better, telemann.  I hope that
while he's away, his plans don't un-ravel.  If he travels to the
Bronx, he might wind up driving on Bruckner Boulevard.

Ken

        <looking for puns around Palestrina, Stravinsky, Mahler, and
        Penderecki>
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From:         JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS
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Subject: Re: Maya's poem

>Esquimeaux, if you are going to use that romanization.
        Thank yeaux!
>I thought Karsten said he *heard* it...do you think his memory got
>edited?

>Karen
        No, what I think is that the textural/"official" version got
edited, but they either aren't bothering with the audio/video tape, or
the Ministry of Truth is too understaffed [underhanded?] during the change
of administrations to do overnight jobs.  Time will tell.  This wouldn't be
the first item to go down the Memory Hole...

John, who has wasted many hours searching indexes for things that now
never happened...
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:24:14 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Asians

>>One CAN
>>see some kind of Indian "influence" into Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia, but
>>certainly not in China.
>
>Huh?  What about Buddhism?  And a lot of Chinese art is Indian
>influenced.

You are the expert - I don't know. This is only the feeling I have. Of
course there is influence, after all there were ties. I was only saying
something like, there aren't all that many Hindu temples in China, their
language does not have a great Indian influence, their folk dances aren't
based on Indian epics. As for Buddhism, how much of it exists in India
NOW? (That's what I was talking about.) And how much of Chinese Buddhism
is really Indian?

tushar
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:56:08 EST
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Vanna White
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She was talking about subscribing to the Wheel of Fortune Newsletter,
and said "And you get a WoF pen!" Which turns out to be a tacky
brooch.Ha!  I guess she talks normal!

(I just left it on after the news, and forgot about it.)

Karen
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From:         JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS
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Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Gilbert's Geography Question

Oh, sure.  *I* get _cricket_, and giggles gets a letter-high slowpitch!
It ain't fair, I tell ya...

JMW
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Re: Maya's poem
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g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK (G) writes:
> It's nothing if not politically correct, I'll say that.

Almost but not quite.  So far I've seen three copies of that poem
posted here but only one included "Eskimo" in the laundry list of
groups.*  I definitely heard this in the reading.

Perhaps I'm behind the times again and the PC terms have changed but
I thought "Eskimo" was on the disapproved list.

--karsten

*Is this the list of groups whose collective butts Clinton is
 supposed to kiss?
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From:         Evelyn <R3EJD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cloudy skies over Portland
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On Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:37:24 +0100 <torkel@SICS.SE> said:
>  >(Mi casa es su casa)
>
>  No it isn't. Anyway, Raleigh is boring. I say, Missoula! The place I call
>home by now. It isn't boring, but it is revolting.

Sounds like a fine place!  Could you show us David Lynch's boyhood home?

Evelyn
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Date: 26 Jan 93 17:34:41 GMT
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              26 Jan 1993 05:54:16 CST from <samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU>

Amy Lynn Hull is a member of the Forever Knight list (FK is one of the
best programs on TV, IMNSHO).

Evelyn Duncan
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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: In Ecstacy
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        >I assume you're speaking figgeratively?
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                                  !!!!!!!!!!!!!

        Call yourself a prof...

I think that one was meant facetiously - it was the 'genieuses' three lines
down that worried *me*...

G
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:23:35 GMT
From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: cluedo
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Clue-dough.  (Or if you're a hypercorrect oldie, Clyoo-dough)

G
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:32:10 +0000
From:         Adrian Hall <adrian@DOROTHY.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Yet Another Holiday Report.
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              "LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU" at Jan 25, 93 11:18:21 am

>
> >Log onto my mailbox machine - discover 300 messages. Dont read them all.
> >(TP ones are ideal for 'delete unread').
> >
>
>You could at least have said "Thank you Wombat for making the subject headings
> so distinctive!" :-(

But that is something I manage to say every time I comne across one of those
messages!

Adrian
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Subject:      Re: Asians
              25 Jan 1993 05:29:56 CST from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

>Because most nationalities can be placed within larger categories.  E.g.,
>Torkel is a Swede.  Torkel is a Scandinavian.  Torkel is a European.  People
>often look for a term to link several countries of geographic proximity.
>Remember our discussions of the problem of what to call the inhabitants of
>those islands in the North Sea and the heated responses from Ireland saying
>that there is no need for such a term since Ireland is not related to the
>other countries on those islands?  I still contend that it *is* related and
>that a word to include the Irish and the UKers is sometimes needed.
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

  But the language has not supplied the word.  More properly: the users
  of the language have not come up with one, have not responded to the need.
  Similarly with the non-existent word for the person who always says,
  "Back at LSU, we used to..."  It makes perfect sense to have such a word,
  but the language has not been forthcoming.

  brad
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:53:30 CST
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By the way, nowadays it seems Indians (from India) are distinguished from
"Asians" for some reason. Around here at least, people keep talking about
"Asians and Indians".

tushar
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Subject:      Is 25 January a holiday in Scotland ?

  In Edinburgh town they've made a law,
  In Edinburgh at the Court o' Session,
  That standing pricks are fautors a'
  And guilty of a high transgression.


  Guess the poet and win a haggis.

  (It shouldn't be too hard!)

  Br Paul
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Spring is here
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On Sun, 24 Jan 1993, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> > Depraved May wants to know if you're serious?
>
> I see that Peter and I had the same reaction to abh's posting.  (I'm

Who is Depraved May? Somebody's girlfriend?

-abh
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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Torture, again.
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:> The ultimately chilling conclusion is that torturer's MUST have normal
:> personalities--"Any of us, in a similar situation, might be capable of
:> the same cruelty.  One probably cannot train a deranged sadist to be an
:> effective torturer or killer.  He must be in complete control of himself
:> on the job."
:>
:> The evidence for this is quite convincing, but I still want to deny it.
:> I guess that's just my American Optimism.

:and who would go to the gas.  Still others--I would guess the
:majority--were perfectly ordinary people who were trained, schooled,
:or whatever into regarding their victims as faceless and dehumanized.

:The teaching and learning part is what is most horrifying.  HOW that
:is done is beyond me.  How do you convince other people, and how do

Read the Stanley Milgram stuff that Karen referred to.  It takes about
an hour to turn the average American into a vicious killer.  It's no
surprise the AMA banned all such research from that time on.  (The
reason for the ban being ostensibly that the experimental subjects
didn't realise it was a psych experiment, and this was unethical...
yeah, sure...)

G
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:16:28 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      My Ranking
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>_5__ Boone, NC
>_4__ Elsewhere in NC
>_7__ Edinburg, TX
>_3__ Galway, Ireland
>_2__ Elsewhere in Ireland
>_6__ Portland
>_8__ Starkville, MS
>_1__ Toronto
>
>Comments: _______________________________________________________
>_________________________________________________________________
>_________________________________________________________________
>_________________________________________________________________
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Salmonbake bitching
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        Surely *somebody* would be willing to pick up <gt> in DC and get him
        to NC.

Just keep that fucking Miata away from me.

        We could have a Beach Music/Shag contest.  They still do that sort of
        thing.  Really.  Seriously.  Everytime we go to the beach, I drive my

rule no. 7: no shagging on the beaches.  Don't you read the signs???

G
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Subject:      Re: cluedo
              21 Jan 1993 08:23:35 GMT from <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>

On Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:23:35 GMT G said:
>Clue-dough.  (Or if you're a hypercorrect oldie, Clyoo-dough)

  Graham, I thought you wanted us to start using IPA ASCII symbols
  for such exchanges.

  brad
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From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: signoff
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              24 Jan 93 05:16:13 -0800. <9301241317.AA28289@sics.se>

 >I was simply indicating that the discussion
 >of netiquette is not always subtle, as the previous comment had
 >stated.

  I don't think Rita said that the discussion of netiquette was subtle,
but rather netiquette itself.

 >I'm glad, in fact. It makes the discussion more lively.

  So you no longer deplore the absence of civilized rules for the
exchanges on the list?
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From:         Anjani Chandra <QAI%NIHCU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: WORDS-L TP: Anjani's Entertainment Question

>> Who wrote Pirates of Penzance?

I will say Gilbert & Sullivan.

--Anjani Chandra
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From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Asians
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              25 Jan 93 11:42:33 -0500. <9301251651.AA20681@sics.se>

  >Well, the Japanese word for the US *IS* amerika, so I guess I do
  >tend to identify myself as American.

  Or Rice-land. You can always call yourself a Rice-lander. (Sugoi!)
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>>"What Everly Brothers song was banned in Boston?"
>
>>Get this one right and there's only Art/Literature to go.
>
>I don't have any idea.  I guess I'm out of easy categories.
>I think the Everly Brothers were before my time.
>
>bz

I'm sorry you didn't get that one.... it was "Wake Up, Little Susie" as
Brad and Natalie have already confirmed.

Carolyn
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From:         Tony Harminc <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cloudy skies over Portland
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Posted on 26 Jan 1993 at 23:09:18 by Bandwidth Pig

>> Since the '93 site is still up in the air, why don't we consider having
>> it in Ireland?  Then we could all go down to London and stay with Graham.
>
>Oh, do send me .gifs. I'll be at Russell Square Hotel while you all
>imitate the action of the sardine. ;-)

If you'd actually stayed at one of those tourist ghetto 'hotels' in
Russell Square you'd be less quick to complain about Graham's.

Tony H.