Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 00:28:41 -0400 
From: Greg K Chung <gc2n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: So, what is up with the SINL now?
Distribution: rec

Excerpts from netnews.rec.games.netrek: 13-Aug-92 So, what is up with
the SIN.. Roger Gonzalez@msel.unh. (1479)

Gashouse Gorillas played Golden Bears away.  There were horrendous network
problems, ON THEIR NETWORK.  Unfortunately, the 250-350ms lags added by the cs
gateway at berkeley (with occasional 1500ms or 3500ms or full ghostbust) were
added to our constant 200ms lag just getting out there.  Yes, they had lag
too, lets say 251-351ms.  But ours was 451-551ms.  With ghostbusts.  I
personally was ghostbusted 5 times in 20 minutes.

We want to play them again, but the season is officially over.  Technically, I
suppose we lost, since we all quit without finishing the game.  I think we
could have won, given a fair chance.  And seeing as a win would make us
3 wins to 1 loss, the same as RankScum, we want a replay.

So what's the deal?  Do we take our 2-2, and be thankful?  Or do we get a
chance to play another game with GB on a fair machine halfway between, say,
nova.ksu?



Well, the Berkeley connection is so f*cked up right now they probably
aren't receiving netmail.  I can't finger tom@soda.berkeley.edu since I
can't even reach the Berkeley network...

Team Rank Scum was granted an extension by Tom in order to finish its
games by Thursday -- the day before playoffs.  That also means that
Hell's Bagels and Conforganized Diffusion were also granted extensions,
so they can complete their schedules as well...

Thus it would certainly be fair to have a rematch if GB so desires.  The
problem here is that the RS-CD game has already been scheduled and will
take place.  A GG-GB rematch probably won't be scheduled in time for the
playoffs... since you can't reach the Golden Bears, how do you expect to
play them before Friday?  

The playoff picture as it will *probably* stand Thursday:

** Taken and modified by "From the sTATbOY" by  Mathisen@cs.montana


     12M  HB   MA   CP   TC   RS   LU   GBO  SOD  AA   CD   GB    GG    w/l
     --- |--- |--- |--- |--- |--- |--- |--- |--- |--- |--- |--- | --- | ---
AA                   AA  AA   AA    AA                                  4/0
GBO            GBO                           GBO        GBO GBO         4/0

12M       12M  12M  CP   12M                                            3/1
CP   CP        CP                                 AA              CP    3/1
RS        RS                                      AA   RS   RS          3/1*

GG                   CP                      GG        GG   GB          2/2**


*  = Assuming Rank Scum beats Conforganized Diffusion
** = Assuming Gashouse Gorillas at 2/2 without a rematch

Assuming these are the standings as of Thursday night, then AA and GBO
automatically go to the playoffs as 4/0 teams.  The remaining 2 playoff
spots are divided by 12AM/RS/CP. 

If 12AM fields a team, then RS & CP go into tie-breaker, which RS wins
because in the common game vs AA, RS lost by less than CP.

If 12AM doesn't field a team, then RS & CP both go to playoffs.


Realistically, it doesn't look good for GG becoming a 3/1 team, and it
does look good for RS becoming a 3/1 team.  Thus the fate of CP lies in
12AM's hands...  So if GG doesn't get its rematch and win, then RS gets
in the playoffs, which is all that really matters anyway, right?

(Of course, wouldn't we like to see 3 CMU teams versus GBO???)