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From: kilpatri@nextnet.csus.edu (Joseph Kilpatrick)
Subject: Re: Animego BGC covers
Organization: California State University Sacramento
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:50:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.024526.28653@sura.net> wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes) writes:
>Huh?  Are you sure about this?  Based on my Kenichi Sonoda art book, it looks
>like they did use all of the original video covers.  Let me see:
>Parts 1, 3, and 5 used the original video jackets.
>Parts 2 and 4 came from posters (the original jacket appeared on the back of
>AnimEigo's Part 2, actually).
>Parts 6, 7, and 8's video jackets weren't used.  The pictures that were
>used don't appear in the art book (although I believe the book came out
>before 8, so...).

Well, on page 81 of the big B-Club special BGC book there are pictures of 
every BGC CD,CD Single, and LD ever done for BGC.  The LD cover for BGC1 was
the same as the CD cover, but the LD cover didn't have the Katakana on it.
I aw the cover for BGC1 from animego and it's not that.  They used
Sonada art probably, but not the same pictures that appeared on the covers 
listed in my book.  I may be wrong about some, but I am sure I am right about #1.
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From: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Best opening animations
Date: 9 Sep 92 03:50:01 GMT
Reply-To: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


Re: KOR openings
 
Didn't "Night of Summer Side" simply use footage from the first
season, flipping by really fast?  It didn't impress me too much.
However, I did like the "Actress in the Mirror" opening.  I'd have to
say the one I liked best, though, was the second season opening.  I
don't know the exact title, but it resembled an MTV video and the
lyrics were "Tell me, Tell me.."
 
  -Ralph Jenkins

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From: tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Gundam0083:Nuke?
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:55:43 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1920n9INN5sq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bs783@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Fubler Harvey) writes:
>
>This has probably been answered, but....
>
>Why did they load the Nuclear Warhead into Unit 2, if it was just going out
>for some training exercises?  Surely, they could used something of similar
>weight instead of something more dangerous.

Unit 2 was developed for quick & dirty elimination of opposing
forces, in case another war erupts. The nuke in Unit 2 is good
enough to blow a colony to pieces and would have been very useful
against Jion's favorite tactic "Colony Fall."

Probably the reason they used the real nuke is to test whether Unit
2 can really survive the nuclear explosion and safely return. If
NOT, Unit 2 would not be very practical since I don't think
Federation pilots are interested in going on a Kamikaze mission. :-)

>BTW, Great job on all the subs, Operation X!

Thanks. (^_^)


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From: tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Gundam 0083 Episode 12 (SPOILERS)
Date: 5 Sep 92 08:25:16 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <-_nn1ha.albertw@netcom.com> albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku) writes:
>In article <188te4INNdtc@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> as413@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric William Paslick) writes:
>>
>>Wait, your confusing me.  I thought that the Solar (Ray) System inthe
>>original Gundam was the huge set of mirrors that the Feds used against
>>Solomon, and what Giren used against Degin was called the Colony Laser.
>>
>
>It was, Tonghyun was under the influence of a virus. ^_^

Well, I finally broke free from the EVIL influence of a virus. (^_^)

What Giren used IS Solar RAY [System] (NOT the same as Solar System
used by Feddies), unless my ears have gone numb as well. :-)

At the beginning of Side 3 of Gundam III, Giren speaks: "Thanks to
our SOLAR RAY, the half of Feddie fleet has been destroyed. This
light is a proof that the justice is on our side!"

Until Bandai stops making Gundam, make mine Jion. :-)


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From: dcb@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (David Blume)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Best opening animations
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:52:55 GMT
Organization: Tomobiki-cho

Seems to me it's time for a poll...

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From: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Anime, and He May Not
Date: 7 Sep 92 21:47:20 GMT
Reply-To: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


Ok, I'm sort of tired of seeing Bubblegum Crisis trashed constantly on
this conference.  I will admit it's not the most original anime series
out there, but it *is* a fun show with great action scenes.  I have
only seen a small percentage of the anime that it out there, and I
have seen far worse than BGC.
 
Thank you.
 
  -Ralph Jenkins

BTW - my favorite episodes were, in order:  6, 8, 5, 7, 4, 3, 2, 1.
I felt 8 was silly and not in the same tone as the rest of the series,
but it *was* a Nene story.  If 9-13 had ever come about, I have a
feeling they would have returned to the darker feel.  I think 8 was
meant to be a break in the tension, not the end of the show.

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From: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Subject: Re: Rumiko Takahashi ...
Reply-To: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:04:37 GMT

[Posting was reformatted to 80 chars/line...]

In article <raa.02y0@guild.socal.com> raa@guild.socal.com (Raa Lopez) writes:
>I REALLY like Rumiko Takahashi's stuff ... Everything from Urusei Yatsura 
>to the Rumik Worlds ... I have almost EVERYTHING she did in Manga and 
>Video Except Ningyo No Mori ... I have the Manga and I really Like It! 
>Is there an Anime of it? If so then That would be cool cuz I want it!
>
>--- Via UCI v1.05 (C-Net Amiga)

Yes, there was a one-shot OAV done of "Ningyo no Mori" based on the
"Mermaid's Forest" part of the manga.  It was pretty good too.

My usual disclaimer :-):
   I am not related to, nor am acquainted with Rumiko Takahashi.

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From: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: * Blockbuster and 'JapAnimation' [sic!]
Date: 7 Sep 92 21:33:47 GMT
Reply-To: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


It seems like the various Blockbuster stores are independent of each
other.  The store closest to me has anime under a section called
"Japanese Animation".  I have no problems with that...
 
  -Ralph Jenkins

Though I still can't find Dangaio 2 or 3...

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From: ebshen@athena.mit.edu (Eric B Shen)
Subject: Tower Records???? CDs???
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 22:44:37 GMT

After hearing from Danielle Scott that you could have Japanese CDs special
ordered from Tower in Tokyo, I went to my local Tower Records to try it out...

Both Tower in Boston, and Tower in Cambridge have no idea what's going on.  They
never special order anything except from a very small list of imports which are
all by western artists anyway.  Strange, huh?

The best they could do was refer me to Tower mail order in New York.  I haven't
bothered to call, yet. If I have to resort to that, I might as well order it from
the local Japanese grocery store.

So what's the deal???? Can you only special order Japanese CDs from the Tower
Records on the west coast???  Has ANYONE been able to get anything from an east
coast store? 

I knew it was too good to be true...

Eric Shen
ebshen@athena.mit.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 03:17:18 EDT
From: <CMH114@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Silent Moebius

Boy, this one hit the spot. Beautiful film, completely absorbed Blade Runner
and art style. Minor animation glitches, not big enough to harm enjoyment.
Tastefully handled emotional scenes. A bit heavy on the bugeyed beasties, and
the monsters seem at times to be more nasty than threatening- baddies hold
upper hand too long without doing significant damage. Would like to see again
with script or synopsis- do such exist? Is late. Perhaps should go to bed
before lose pronouns entirely.

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From: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: New releases.
Date: 13 Sep 92 21:58:45 GMT
Reply-To: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


US Renditions' dubbed Macross II, The Guyver, and Orguss tapes are now
*officially* in stores.  Viz's Macross II comic adaptation also was
released this week.
  
In a nutshell, here's what I thought:
  
Macross II:  Good art and music, hampered a bit by slightly weak
   animation and an uninspired plot.  Still, Mikimoto character
   designs are good and the dubbing's not *quite* as bad as
   people here have made it out to be.
 
 
  
Orguss:  With 32 more episodes to dub, I wonder if USR is ever going
   to actually finish this series.  However, the first volume is
   quite good (my favorite of the three new USR dubs), and I think 
   I'll be back for more episodes.  On the surface your average mecha
   fest, this show actually has some inspired touches.  Good theme
   song, cute Mikimoto girls, and a twisting plot line make this one
   worth watching (particularly if you're a Macross fan...this works
   better as a Macross sequel than Macross II.  Cameos by Macross
   characters are funny.).
 
Guyver:  SIGH.  This one is just plain boring.  I saw something
   called The Guyver movie which knocked the socks off of this.  It's
   much too cute.  I want TERROR.  >:)  Animation and such isn't that
   bad, I just didn't find it interesting.  To each his own.
  
Macross II comic adaptation:  Stick with the video.  They'll be
forever
   doing this, and there's nothing special about it.  The art by the
   JUSTY artist is awful.
 
 
One last thing, before I go:
 
COMPLAINT TIME!
 
What's the problem with USMC's Wanna Be's tape?  The copy I bought had
problems (the image kept moving around).  Thought it was defective, so
I exchanged it for a new copy and -- SAME THING.  Are all the
Wanna Be's tapes bad, or did I just happen into a bad batch of 'em?
 
Hmm...
 
  -Ralph Jenkins

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From: ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Re: Harlock
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:42:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.065314.7965@gn.ecn.purdue.edu>, gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan) writes:
> According to Carl "Earl Scheib" Macek (I can dub any anime for $99.95),
> Captain Harlock is "unavailable".

*sigh* He's disappointing all us loyal Macek fans and 'Techies on r.a.anime.

(well, ok, he's disappointing ME anyway...)

> No he didn't elaborate. 

Hmmm.  Sounds like his attitude about Robotech: The Movie.

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From: gryphon@wpi.WPI.EDU (M-5)
Subject: Re: This BGC thang
Organization: RecursionCo.: We'll do it again and again and again and again a
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 06:15:31 GMT

In article <18eo31INNs7s@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews) writes:
>
>I still say BGC is being "over-criticized".  So it's "style over
>substance"?  So what?  I think that's part of its charm, in a way.

Yeah.  Exactly.  

Style over substance is what cyberpunk is all about, and you can't tell me
BGC isn't cyberpunk.  I mean, think of the Cyberpunk Rules:

1) Style over substance.
2) Metal is better than meat.
3) Take it to the Edge.
4) Break the Rules.

>
>I mean, why do fans of BGC like the series?  Because of its
>in-depth examination of the human condition?  :-)  Naaaaaah.
>

Well...yeah...but only sometiems.

>Great character designs, great mecha designs, superb animation (for the
>most part), exciting, intense fight scenes with pretty decent excuses for
>them :-), and, of course, KICK-ASS MUSIC!!
>

Uh huh.  No arguments here.  :-)  (Besides the character designs, the 
characters themselves are great, imho.  After Undocumented Features is done,
I may turn my attention to applying a similar, though much less mutational,
touch to Mega-Tokyo.)

>BGC is a ball for those who don't look down their noses at stuff which
>is just meant to be exciting, intense, and a great time.
>

Yeppers.

>Occasionally, it even goes beyond that, like in MOONLIGHT RAMBLER, which
>I will defend to my dying breath as a damn good story.
>

I liked the followup to it next episode, too, especially the "oops, sorry,
my ride's here" sequence...:-)

>(And occasionally it forgoes "intense" for "cute", as in BGC 8.  But I
>digress...)

I liked BGC8.  Then again, that's probably because, being a gweep, I've always
liked Nene the best (being that she's a fellow gweep and all), and it was good
to finally see her get to do something worthwhile.  Nene's problem was never
that she couldn't fight.  That part was self-evident.  The problem was that 
she was never given any equipment that would enable her to use her _strengths_;
the old blue-and-pink hardsuit was a light combat thingy and just preyed on
her weaknesses.  By giving her interface and ECM capabilities, Sylia did 
what I think she should've done in the first place, and utilized the talents
that, if the Asu e Touchdown video is to be believed, got Nene into the 
Knight Sabers in the first place, to good effect.

But I digress.

--G.
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From: efb@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Fred Byon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime,rec.arts.manga,alt.manga,alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Bubblegum Trek note...
Date: 13 Sep 92 21:35:24 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Purdue University

If either part gets truncated by your news server, please let me know and
I'll see if I can mail you something.

Fred Byon
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From: pearl@remus.rutgers.edu (Starbuck)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: KOR memories 6 LD Box set(wanted)
Keywords: Ayukawa
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:22:34 GMT
Organization: the Worlds Welfare Work Association, Rutgers Anime division

In article <16876@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> ez007855@hamlet.ucdavis.edu (Chris 1/2) writes:

> Wanted!
> I am willing to pay high for VHS(original or copied) verison of the above title
> (I am a very serious KOR Fan :>)
> Can someone also tell me what are in the LDs?(epidsoes? MTV? Songs?)


Wow... Whatta fan!  He wants copies of it but doesn't know what's on
it!

I believe that this boxed set contains the OAVs and KOR movie.  If
this is the case, (and since you want VHS copies), you can purchase
them from AnimEigo as they are releasing the KOR OAVs and movie
(Subtitled!).  The LD set from Japan has been plagued with Laser Rot
problems... (I think it is a plot by AnimEigo to generate a market for
their KOR LD set.  All the LD owners will have to buy them again.  And
AnimEigo can release it cheaper, and subtitled!  :-) :-)


Steve
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From: justin@mik.uky.edu (justin sullivan)
Subject: Re: About $$$
Keywords: producers movies salaries
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 19:59:13 GMT

In <38004@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim) writes:

>According to Animage, the average pay of Animation Director or
>Character Designer class animators is from $4000 to $15000 per
>month, depending on their experiences and popularity. The pay
>might be somewhat higher for big name stars like Mikimoto and Takada
>but it's very unlikely that they'll get payed beyond $20000,
>considering the budgets for most anime are less than $80000 for TV and
>$200000 for OAVs.

>Although I don't know how much money did Otomo got for directing
>AKIRA, $2 million is way too ridiculous. $2 million is more than the
>budget for most 2-hour movies theses days (BTW, Miyazaki movies are
>exceptions, costing around $5 million). Although AKIRA is the most
>expensive anime ever, it costed *only* 8 million dollars. The
>budget for other movies are much lower.

>I don't think even Miyazaki can get $1 million for directing a movie,
>although all of his movies have been blockbusters. 

Amazing! How do they do it for so little? That's very surprising..
$8 million dollars for AKIRA? Hmm.. I'm wondering now if it's a matter of what
the artists are capable of, or if it's the budget.. Where's the limit on how
spectacular a film they can make these days I wonder. 
Miyazaki could get $1 million from ME for directing a film! It would be worth
every penny.. That's truly astounding though, that they can accomplish so much
with so little. They must be very busy then, just to be able to make a living
if that's all they're getting paid..
Now I wonder if that $8 million was for animation production, or if it
covered soundtrack and distribution as well.. I doubt it would have 
covered distribution (that's an expensive business). Most expensive EVER?
Well, records are made to be broken! :)
Thanks for the info..

Anyone else have anymore comments? This was most helpful to give me an idea
on how much to spend..
From: rang@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jyan-ken)
Subject: Iczer-3 laserdiscs for sale!
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Keywords: Iczer
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:13:24 GMT

As the subject says, I'm selling Iczer-3 OVA LD's..

Iczer-3 (vol 3 -6)  $28 for each; $112 for all 4 Ld's.

If anyone is an Iczer fan, and doesn't have this set, maybe you should
consider; Priority goes first to those who want to buy ALL the LD's.

Thanks, and reply soon!
Jyanken
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From: doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi)
Subject: Re: Best opening animations
Organization: DEC Japan Research and Development Center
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:06:52 GMT

In article <5574@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp) writes:
# > In article <1992Sep7.225805.5810@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi) writes:
# >>Anime Opening/Ending Sequences                                   a   s    t
# >>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
# >>Saint Seiya - OP (Soldier Dream)				90  80  170
# >>Saint Seiya - OP (Pegasus Fantasy)				85  85 	170
# 
# 	Well, I agree that the Saint Seiya openings are good, but animation
# at 90? er... considering that things like AKIRA are at 100, I don't think
# Seiya hits THAT high a peak.

I mean the animation in the OP/ED.  Not the entire TV series..
Also I don't mean technical animation quality.  I usually don't care
about that.  I mean the content of what's shown.

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:18:33 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <18kg47INN319@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews) writes:
> 
[Ryan liked BATMAN]
> 
> I watched my first one today (part 1 of the Clayface story),

Heh.  You're in for a treat.  IMO, Tuesday's episode was the WORST
episode so far.  Monday's episode (with Mister Freeze) was much better.

> and it was written by Marv Wolfman.
> Is he doing Batman now?  I don't collect the comic.

No, he isn't.  He's the person responsible (no, GUILTY!) for the current
stories in TEEN TITANS.  BTW, Denny O'Neill (who wrote all those fantastic
Batman stories back in the 70's), is scheduled to write some episodes
as well.

P.S.  Maybe we should move this thread to rec.arts.animation?  As good
as the show is, it still isn't anime.
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