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From: cubsfan@cultnet.ch (wrobel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Republicans
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 18:03:11 GMT
Organization: CULTNET Communication Systems for Art & Science

The interesting thing about Republican "values" and their platform in 
general is that they all lead would lead to one inevitable consequence:
ignorance for the general population.  The bashing of the "cultural elite"
celebrates those without education.  Banning abortion would force women to 
drop out of high school or college to take care of unwanted children, again 
stymying their education.  Tax cuts affect schools and education first.
School "choice" or private school vouchers drain people out of integrated 
public supported schools, impoverish them and the good teachers will look 
for other places to teach.  The government should be trying to raise the 
people up, not keep them down. You are what you think, and without education 
you are nothing but unskilled labor, or worse, fodder for manipulation.
What could Republicans have to gain by keeping the electorate ignorant?  The 
same things that all aristocrats had to gain in the past.  The stupider they 
are, the easier a little flag-waving will distract their attention.

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From: ekman@netcom.com (Crossly the Glad-Eyed Bear)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Stupidity of Am. Masses
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:32:57 GMT
Organization: Home for the Terminally Infirm

In article <1992Sep3.222733.12484@nas.nasa.gov> eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) writes:
>
>Try this:
>What's the latitude of the North Pole?
>If you don't know, don't worry, you are in good company.  I have asked this
>after various observations.  Even a few NASA PhDs could not answer
>correctly.  One of America's best climbers couldn't answer it, and one
>of America's best sky divers, both of whom WENT to the N Pole could not answer
>it.  Consider the answer for yourself.  Send mail if you fear embarassment.
>This is the third news group I have posed this question.

This is a joke, right?  Or some sort of trick question?

First of all, are you asking about the magnetic pole, or the geographic
pole?  If the latter, it depends on whether you mean the true pole of
instant, or the adopted mean pole.

The latitude of the adopted mean pole is, by definition, I think, 
90 degrees north; the true pole of instant wanders, in a not entirely
predictable manner, with 12-year and 14-year components in its cycle.
Its displacement from the mean pole is generally not more than ten
meters.
-- 
Crossly the Glad-Eyed Bear              ekman@netcom.com
Home for the Terminally Infirm, Redwood City, California
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: buckland@ucs.ubc.ca (Tony Buckland)
Subject: Re: List of words in American and British English
Organization: University of B.C. Computing Services
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:00:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.135246.24960@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> segr@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Simon Read) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.095204.21964@cs.hw.ac.uk>, 
>neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite) writes:
>> Can of coke, tin of coke. Both are used...
>Does anyone seriously use a tin of coke? A can or a tin
>of beans, yes. But I would never use a tin of a drink,
>tins don't have ring-pulls.

 Ah, but only in the UK would one be able to carry a couple of
 dozen soft drinks, regardless of container, in one's boot
 (or under one's bonnet, should one choose to drive one of
 those round German things).
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: mgreen@cs.toronto.edu (Marc Green)
Subject: re: US dual citizinship information  - updated version available via FTP
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:24:40 GMT


From: ian@sinix.UUCP (Ian Malone)

>According to the IRS tax book that I am staking a quarter of my gross 
>annual salary on:
>
>	If you are out of the country for 330 out of a consequetive 365
>	day period, and you do not maintain a primary residence in the
>	US, EVEN IF YOU ARE PAID BY AN AMERICAN COMPANY, WITH AMERICAN
>	DOLLARS, you do not have to pay US income taxes.  YOU MUST FILE
>	FOR THIS EXEMPTION.
>
>This was not a quote.
>
>Ian Malone
>
>I love knowing exactly what I am talking about, it's so rare.

Actually, you don't know what you are talking about. The exemption has
several important limitations. First, it only covers the first $75,000
or so. Second, the exemption applies only to earned income. You pay
full tax on interest, dividends or any other investment incomes. 

Marc Green
Trent University


From: reykja@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Reykja Sigurdsson)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:04:51 GMT
Subject: Re: Republicans
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa

In soc.culture.usa, cubsfan@cultnet.ch (wrobel) writes:

> The interesting thing about Republican "values" and their platform in 
> general is that they all lead would lead to one inevitable consequence:
> ignorance for the general population.  The bashing of the "cultural elite"
> celebrates those without education.  Banning abortion would force women to 
> drop out of high school or college to take care of unwanted children, again 
> stymying their education.  Tax cuts affect schools and education first.
> School "choice" or private school vouchers drain people out of integrated 
> public supported schools, impoverish them and the good teachers will look 
> for other places to teach.  The government should be trying to raise the 
> people up, not keep them down. You are what you think, and without education 
> you are nothing but unskilled labor, or worse, fodder for manipulation.
> What could Republicans have to gain by keeping the electorate ignorant?  The 
> same things that all aristocrats had to gain in the past.  The stupider they 
> are, the easier a little flag-waving will distract their attention.
> 

              Exactly right! And for a party which proclaims so loudly 
about 'family values', they can not/will not answer for having vetoed a 
bill which would have allowed people to take time off work to care for 
sick children.

-reykjavik


rks@uccs-annex.csn.org
 
                                  The seeking of wisdom is the highest virtue
                                                     --Odin--
From: shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Aid to Floridia & Louisiana (was: Re: 1-800-682-3362 )
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:55:22 GMT
Organization: Boston University Chemistry Department

In article <1992Aug31.145921.3830@desire.wright.edu> demon@desire.wright.edu
(Stupendous Man) writes: 
>In article <1992Aug29.203008.1209@squid.tram.com>, patt@squid.tram.com (Patt
Bromberger) writes  
>> President Bush inspects Homestead, Florida on Monday and no military
>> aid arrives until Friday - what a guy!  I can hardly wait to get to
>> the voting booth in November ** sigh **

>	Trying to say Bush would not help Florida because of political reasons
>is silly.  It would be to his benefit to get federal supplies "courtesy of the
>Prez" into Fla ASAP.

No way. Everybody knows that Bush is evil incarnate who is responsible for
everything (including sunspots). BTW, how do we know that the hurricane was
not a Republican plot?

(smiley off)

Anybody have any idea why the media is so anti-Bush? Did he annoy them in some
way sometime?

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// Ryan: What is it to you, demon?       //// Sergei Shimkevich             //
// Lune: It is Sir, Demon to you, worm!  //// shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu        //
// -Phantasy Star III                    ////                               // 
From: reykja@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Reykja Sigurdsson)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:13:58 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Privacy: R.I.P., 1992
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa

> 
> If you are really a Libertarian, you'd better be _DAMN_ careful about
> voting for the oppressive minority represented by the Republican Party.
> You may think that guns are the only thing that matters, but I am
> equally or more concerned by the "secret war" against our civil
> rights being waged by the Republicans (consider that charade called
> the "war on drugs", for example).
> 
> I will not elaborate on this statement; there have been literally
> dozens of threads on this topic.

          A hardy AMEN to the abover statement. Supporting a party which
has the ultimate objective of running your life from cradle-to-grave, 
determining your value set for you and eveyrone else is hardly what 
I would call 'libertarian"! 

         Although there have been dozens of threads on the subject, I 
don't think we can reiterate enough that these people are FASCISTS! 
They want to push us all back into some sort of ignorant black hole --
just like the goodoledays when women stayed in the kitchen and Blacks
went to the back of the bus. They call it 'traditional family values" --
the most frightening phrase since 'New World Order."! 

         Wake up, for Ghu's sake! Is keeping a lousy gun worth losing
everything else for? Heck, I am a gun owner also and fully believe that
I have the right to defend myself lethally if necessary. But -- it is 
just a tool. There are other ways to acomplish the same goal if necesary. 
As our freeooms continue to erode, none of the rest will matter a bit. 

-reykjavik

rks@uccs-annex.csn.org

(flames to e-mail please. No need to bore others with it.)

                            The seeking of wisdom is the highest virtue--
                                                  --Odin--

> 
>  Dave
> 	
>  Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's
From: braithw@cs.uwindsor.ca (BRAITHWAITE GEORGE       )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Minolta CEO attacks US Second Amendment (American guns)
Date: 28 Aug 1992 18:59:10 GMT
Organization: University of Windsor, Ontario, Canada

What I don't understand is how Tom (and many other Americans) are so quick use the terms "freedom" and "rights" without ever even thinking about the "responsibilities" and "consequences" which these rights entail.

The last time I checked Tom, the basis of democracy was a government in which the people held the supreme power.

George

ps.  If that "state-of-the art weapons" line was a joke, I thought it was funny.  Otherwise, you scare me.

"Hey Bill... Now You're a LAW" (Congressman)| George Hamilton Braithwaite
"OH YEAH!" (Bill)                           | braithw@cs.uwindsor.ca
(From "I'm Just a Bill" SHR)                |     M.E.G.A.S.I.T. Rules!
From: julie@eddie.jpl.nasa.gov (Julie Kangas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Stupidity of Am. Masses
Date: 1 Sep 92 14:49:18 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA

In article <168558166.KGODDEN@cmsa.gmr.com> KGODDEN@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
<...>
>hired some analysts to find out why.  It seems that J.Q. Public thought that
>the 1/3 pound burgers were SMALLER than the 1/4 pounders...after all, 3 is
>smaller than 4.  (I'm not making this up.)  When I first read this I had
>to laugh loud and long--until the depression set in.  Now I'm sickened.

Ditto here.  Some high schools are now offering "warranties" on their 
students.  If the newly graduated student doesn't have minimal
reading skills or can't perform basic math the employer (usually 
department stores or fast food chains) can send them back (and yes,
I'm using the third person plural form as a generic form:) for more
training.  I think this is a good idea.  Throwing money at schools
isn't the answer.  I think education needs a total re-structuring.

>I'll bet that most Americans think it's out of the realm of possibility that
>the U.S. would break up as did the FSU (Former Soviet Union).  I'm not so
>sure.  We've got some MAJOR problems that our Great Leaders won't even
>admit in public.

There are movements in both Alaska and California to break away from the 
US.  Alaska's movement is stronger as the movement to break California
into two states is more immediate than the California seccessionist
movement right now.  (Personally I'm against CA leaving--if we have
to keep our current state government that is!)

Julie
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: david mardiste <dam@coombs.anu.edu.au>
Subject: e-mail address for Pacific Lutheran University
Organization: federalism research centre   RSSS ANU
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 00:02:02 GMT

Could someone please post to me the address for 
The School of Business Adminstration, 
Pacific LutheranUniversity, 
Tacoma, WA 98447.

In Particular i'm interested in contacting Gundar King
of that Department.

You can e-mail me on dam@coombs.anu.edu.au
Thankyou!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,alt.usage.english
From: cockburn@edieng.enet.dec.com (Craig Cockburn)
Subject: They is the third person singular in English
Organization: Digital Equipment Co. Ltd., Reading, England
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:57:30 GMT


Just to reiterate this point incase you didn't catch it the last time
around

 Craig.

Newsgroups: net.nlang,net.women
From: shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: How evil are the Republicans?
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:38:01 GMT
Organization: Boston University Chemistry Department

Bush = Hitler???

Republicans = Nazis???

Someone here needs a reality check...

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// Ryan: What is it to you, demon?       //// Sergei Shimkevich             //
// Lune: It is Sir, Demon to you, worm!  //// shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu        //
// -Phantasy Star III                    ////                               //
From: rpwhite@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (rpwhite)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Satanic Crime units?? Re: WoD: Frontline Report
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:39:22 GMT
Reply-To: rpwhite@cs.nps.navy.mil (rpwhite)
Followup-To: soc.culture.usa,alt.religion.kibology,misc.test,talk.bizarre,alt.cascade,alt.exploding.kibos
Organization: Monterey Bay Yacht Club, Monterey CA

Peter Couvares writes:

>	I'm pro-God, and I don't think you should be allowed to discuss
>the merits or even the alternative of satan-loving on a network that is
>partially government-funded.
        I'm pro-Kibo, and I don't think that you should be allowed to
discuss the merits or even the alternative of satan-loving on a network
that is partially Kibo-funded.

rp -- there is no net.god but Kibo.
From: exudms@exu.ericsson.se (New Dave)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Chinese ghost month will end in this month
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:57:37 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Richardson TX

In article 23443@csd.brispoly.ac.uk, c_tsai@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (C Tsai) writes:
>
>              ================================================
>              =                                              =
>              =  Chinese ghost month will over in next week  =
>              =                                              =
>              ================================================
>
>
>     Everybody!!!!! Bye-Bye!!!! See you Next Year!!!!
>   And tell the Mr. Ghostbuster that we will going home End of this month.......
>   "Don't catch us on this month, because this month is our holiday!!!! "

Who can catch a Ghostbuster's ghost???

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	      69
/New Dave
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,talk.politics.guns
From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Subject: Re: Special Interest Groups was (Re: Defined: National Police Force)
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 19:18:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.045439.3859@hawkmoon.mn.org> gray@hawkmoon.mn.org
(Bill Gray) writes:
>Incidentally, that journal of the American Library Association had a small
>blurb in it not long ago about this.  They said that their lobbyist on
>Capitol Hill said they two organizations in Washington who had the most
>accurate information on their issues was the ALA and the NRA.

While working the NRA booth at a county fair recently, I also read
this quote but it had no attribution.  I would like to look it up one day
soon but, if anyone else has a specific reference for it, I'd like to
know.

Thanks,

  don
From: ag3l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Arun K. Gupta)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Balancing the Budget
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:32:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.oebOlFm00VAwM2_qh8
Organization: Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


The other night there were four economists on the Macneil-Lehrer
newshour, two liberal types and two Reaganomicists -- and they
were all thoroughly disgusting.

If we have a $400 billion deficit this year and we want to cut
it to zero next year, then assuming revenues remain constant,
how much do we have to cut spending by ?

$400 billion. That was easy, right ?

Now suppose we want to cut spending over a four year period so
that we have no budget deficit after 4 years. How much do we
have to cut spending by ? (or to use the exact term they used --
how much savings do we have to identify ?)

Well, their answer is - of the order of a trillion dollars !!!!

How -- well, lets assume we cut spending $100 billion next year,
$200 billion the second year, $300 billion the third year and
$400 billion in the fourth year (assume govt. revenues remain
constant). That adds up to a trillion.

But this is a dishonest way of stating it, IMO, especially when
most government expenditures are recurring expenditures, not one-
time expenditures. Also, say govt. revenues are $1 trillion. Then
cutting the budget deficit to zero in one year requires a saving
of $400 billion in a current spending plan of $1.4 trillion or
almost 30%. Cutting it in four years, by their calculations is
saving $1 trillion over a four year expenditure of $(1.3+1.2+1.1+1.0)
trillion or a cut of 22%.

Lastly, this is not the way that anyone balances their family budget.

But the economists love to obfuscate the issue (Lehrer said " I don't
follow your arithmetic" but didn't follow it up with any questions,
and let the economists blabber away almost incomprehensibly.)

The final irony is that when the economists talk of cuts,
it rarely means that a program is going to be axed. What it
means is that it is not going to grow as fast as originally
intended. Meaning, if you spend $1000 this year, and plan to
spend $2000 next year; and if you change your mind to and
decide to spend only $1500 next year, then these economists
call it a "cut"; it makes it politically quite unacceptable --
cut Medicare ? oh no !

And the joke is that the budget can be balanced with this kind
of "cut" !!!

-arun
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Holly Wise)
Subject: Re: Aid to Floridia & Louisiana (was: Re: 1-800-682-3362 )
Organization: Lockheed Santa Cruz, CA.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 12:50:15 GMT

In article <95053@bu.edu> shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich) writes:


BTW, how do we know that the hurricane was
>not a Republican plot?

IT WAS!
-----
holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: silva@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Holly Silva)
Subject: Re: Hurricane Andrew
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:59:49 GMT

	I don't know if there may be a more appropriate newsgroup for
this but, does anyone know of net.information regarding the hurricane? 
I have about 40 family members in the greater New Orleans area and may
not be able to communicate with them for a few hours or even days after
the storm passes through there. Thank you for any suggestions.
						Holly

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From: KAMCHAR@ibm.cl.msu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,misc.jobs.misc,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Why do Americans get so little vacation time?
Date: 2 Sep 92 01:39:48 GMT
Organization: Kamchatka Charlie

In article <1992Aug31.203019.11064@weyrich.UUCP> Orville R. Weyrich writes:
>>I am beginning to learn that even the 3rd world gets more vacation than 
>>Americans get.  (Can someone post any figures on this?)...
>And there are folks in LA that get 365 days of vacation a year. They are
>not all smiling.
     IRRELEVANT POINT!!  We're talking about people taking a break from their
work NOT people who can't find work.  Looking for work it at times the hardest
job you can do, and (from experience I happen to know this) the pay is the
pits.

>The Congress has a lot more important things that it SHOULD be worying
>about.  Don't give them any excuses for NOT doing something about the
>budget deficit, the trade deficit, and the education crisis spawned by
>the "great society".
     [for the moment ignoring the commenter's point (maybe taken out of place
or misplaced, BTW, but definitely not the topic of discussion; hence its being
looked over) that massive government debt, our inability to produce goods for
our peoples, and our inability to teach students how to read are relatively
minor American problems...]

     OKAY, how EXACTLY did the "Great Society" create the mess we're in today? 
I have always KNOWN that 12 years of Reagan/Bush have caused more troubles in
America than Roosevelt/Kennedy/Johnson/Carter.

Kamchatka Charlie          KAMCHAR@ibm.cl.msu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.british,alt.usage.english
From: daniels@apollo.hp.com (Stewart Daniels)
Subject: Re: List of words in American and British English
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:35:17 GMT
	<1992Sep1.095204.21964@cs.hw.ac.uk>
	<1992Sep2.135246.24960@nessie.mcc.ac.uk>
	<1992Sep3.180058.10681@unixg.ubc.ca>
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Cooperative Object Computing Division -
	Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Sep3.180058.10681@unixg.ubc.ca> buckland@ucs.ubc.ca (Tony Buckland) writes:

> >> Can of coke, tin of coke. Both are used...
> >Does anyone seriously use a tin of coke? A can or a tin
> >of beans, yes. But I would never use a tin of a drink,
> >tins don't have ring-pulls.
>
>  Ah, but only in the UK would one be able to carry a couple of
>  dozen soft drinks, regardless of container, in one's boot
>  (or under one's bonnet, should one choose to drive one of
>  those round German things).

Actually, you can also do this in Australia, New Zealand and several
other countries also (and in the U.S. if you use my car).

Stew.
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