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From: winders@aux.support.apple.com (Scott Winders)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Nissan and IMSA
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:57:07 GMT
Followup-To: rec.autos.sport
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Nov18.225355.22515@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>,
smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Nov17.173023.6489@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, cweber@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher D Weber) writes:
> 
>> Well I'm not going to argue about the pros and cons of the two marks, but I 
>> think you'll have to agree that the 911 has and still is more successful in 
>> more different racing series throughout the world. Of course you can argue
>> the 911 was around a lot longer and that the RX-7 is much younger.  But you 
>> have to also look at the time frame.  Porsche wasn't focusing its "factory 
>> might" on racing versions of the 911 when Mazda was with their RX-7.  So you 
>> can expect Mazda to be successful.  But...look at this years Supercar Series.  
>> The 911 Turbo and Turbo S simply drove circles around the RX-7s.  I'm not 
>> disputing Mazda's success, certainly they have had plenty, but I believe the 
>> 911 to be the superior model.  Only time will tell if I can say that in the 
>> future.
> 
> The Mazda was nailed with a *huge* weight penalty in the Supercar series.
> With *completely* unmodified factory production cars, nobody will drive
> circles around the Mazdas (Danny Sullivan turned in faster lap times in
> the RX-7 than in the 911 turbo in a comparison article in one of the rags). 

Maybe so. But Danny Sullivan is used to driving cars that have something
close to a 50/50 weight distribution. The 911 is in the range of
40(f)/60(r). It takes quite a bit of time, even for a seasoned racer, to
get used the way a 911 handles and to extract its maximum performance.
It would be quite a bit easier to just jump into the RX-7 and drive it
fast and close to its maximum performance.

Also, the Porsche 911 has been nailed by *huge* penalties all of its
racing life. Has this ever stopped them from winning? NO!!!!!

When the factory gets involved, forget it, Porsche always wins...

Scott Winders
winders@aux.support.apple.com

"My opinions are my own, not my employer's"
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From: mclellan@maximillion.mcc.com (David McLellan)
Subject: Re: World 600
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: MCC Corporate Computing
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:49:00 GMT

>>It's been announced that the 1993 World 600 will start at 4:30 p.m. EDT
>>on May 30... Charlotte will continue to get their money's worth out of that
>>multi-million dollar light system.

Also saw this announcement about Charlotte on Raceday last Sunday.  
They are tryint to get away from head to head competition with Indy.

>The World 600 at 4:30pm on a Sunday?  Surely if they have it at night it
>will be on a Saturday.  I hope so anyway.  If it is on a Sunday evening
>they will be a lot of people missing work on Monday ;-)

Since that Monday is Memorial Day, I think a large number of people 
won't be at work. :)

David

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From: marti@inf.ethz.ch (Robert Marti)
Subject: Re: Mario (was US Cit)
Organization: Dept. Informatik, ETH Zurich, Switzerland
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 06:25:34 GMT

In article <anderbea.91.0@columbia.dsu.edu> anderbea@columbia.dsu.edu (Anthony Anderberg) writes:
>I think Aldo was Mario's brother.  If I remember correctly (and I seldom do) 
>they raced togather early in Mario's carrer until Aldo was in a serious 
>accident and got hurt badly.

I think both Mario's father _and_ elder brother are/were named Aldo.
Then again, I may be wrong ...

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From: jeff@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Jeff Freymueller)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Yet more trivia from Autosport (Answers -- finally!)
Date: 17 Nov 1992 00:57:16 GMT
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
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In article <1992Nov16.201733.28522@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> mcclure@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com writes:
>In article <8720@dirac.physics.purdue.edu>, gfg@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Gabriele F. Giuliani) writes:
>>.... wait a moment, .. a plane? I thought the great Graham Hill died in a
>>damn helicopter crash. Can anyone confirm/wet this? gfg
>>
>>
>
>Gabriele,
>Graham Hill died in a light plane (i.e., small private job) along with Carlos
>Pace.  I believed that they were returning from or going to a test session
>(where I don't remember, might have been Argentina or Brazil?).  I believe
>that Graham was the pilot at that time.  I will try to dig up my notes when
>I get home tonight.
>Kent M. McClure
>Auto racing afficionado and member of San
>Jose IPMS chapter.
>My views are what they are, like them or not.

Graham Hill died in 1975 along with his driver, Tony Brise, and I think some
mechanics as well. Carlos Pace died a couple of years later in a separate
plane crash - I don't remember the date. I think Pace's death was in his
home country of Brazil. I think Hill's crash was in Britain somewhere.

Jeff
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:33:19 EST
From: <BWF2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: I asked Michael (Michael a F1 driver, NOT!)
 <8721@dirac.physics.purdue.edu> <1992Nov17.095800.1@camins.camosun.bc.ca>
 <8768@dirac.physics.purdue.edu> <19NOV199211283049@utarlg.uta.edu>

In article <19NOV199211283049@utarlg.uta.edu>, b102smi@utarlg.uta.edu (George M.
Smiley) says:

>gfg@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Gabriele F. Giuliani) writes...
>>(i) As far as the statement that Michael Andretti is a F1 driver: he is not.
>>He will become one soon hopefully, but his training is in Indy cars (yellow
>>flags and all). It is not obvious that his dominating of Indy cars racing
>>will make him an instant- or otherwise - success in F1. As much as I would
>>like to see that happening (for one it would expose more of the USA public
>>to F1) I am not holding my breath for it.
>>
>>Cheers, gfg
>>

>Andretti dominanting Indy cars ? You have a very short memory, one
>championship in ten years hardly qualifies as dominating. I think the
>notion that Andretti will bring more exposure to F1 is equally dubious.
>Aside from the Indy 500, Indy cars isn't watch by that many more Americans
>than F1. Perhaps if a top Nascar driver joined F1 exposure might increase.
>Didn't Bill Elliot test an Indy car ?

>George

Yeah he did about two years ago at Michigan. A Ganassi car.
         Said he liked it, but he liked his feet more. Doubt you'd see
         him in an indycar.
        Brian 'about 78 days to Daytona! ' France
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From: wolf@pioneer.unm.edu (Mark Giaquinto)
Subject: Re: Andretti
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 22:03:21 GMT
Organization: Space and Planetary Image Facility
Keywords: F1, Indy, American

In article garr@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (guido.a.rijo) writes:
>>I'll be damned!  Another person who respects Mario!  Let's see now...
>>that brings the total up to five of us in r.a.s., by my count.
>>You made my day.
>>Dave Wilson
>Dave, Am I one of the five mentioned above?, If not count me in.
>Someone else mentioned that Mario was born in Italy. I just want
>to mention that you don't have to be born in the USA to be an American,
>I am a living example.

So was my father, born just out side Naples, came thru Ellis Island in the
1920's.  Maybe its reason I'm an Andretti fan (well its my older brothers' 
reason, I just caught it.)  But anyway, my father was American as anyone.
Mark
From: steve@tr.UUCP (steve chandler)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Yet more trivia from Autosport (Answers -- finally!)
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:17:45 GMT

From article <8720@dirac.physics.purdue.edu>, by gfg@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Gabriele F. Giuliani):
> ... wait a moment, .. a plane? I thought the great Graham Hill died in a
> damn helicopter crash. Can anyone confirm/wet this? gfg

No he died in a plane, on the approach to Elstree airport (north of
London), on a Foggy night.

His new driver (can't remember his name) also died in the same
accident.

steve
From: danjones@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com (Dan Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Corvette GS ??
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:48:07 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Mountain View

Dan Jones writes:
>Robert Smith writes:
>
>>Does anyone know if there are any of the Corvette Gran Sports still
>>in existence? I think only four or five escaped the factory before
>>the line was shut down.
>
>I believe there were 5 coupes and 2 roadstrs built. 

After reading a bit more on the subject, this is misleading.  As of 1989
Chevrolet had not released any information about the 2 roadstrs, so its
not known with 100% certainty.  It is thought that roadstr #001 started 
out as the #001 test mule coupe that Masten Gregory tested at Sebring in
late '62 or early '63.  Less is known about the #002 roadstr, but it
might have never been a coupe.  After the coupes had become uncompetitive
the two roadstrs were sold by Chevrolet to private parties (Penske and
Wintersteen?).  All five cars do exist today, #005 coupe being the only 
one that hasn't been restored (as of 1989).

Dan Jones
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From: shaman@cix.compulink.co.uk (Leo Smith)
Subject: Re: Open wheel drag (Re: F1 stuff)
Reply-To: shaman@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:35:00 +0000

I think CD is defined as the area of flat plate which would give the
same drag as the car, divided by the maximum cross sectional area of
the car.

So bigger cars have more resistance for a given Cd.

My 2c worth.
From: gray@tinman.asel.udel.edu (John Gray)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: nascar point system
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:43:50 GMT
Organization: AI duPont Institute

In article <1992Nov18.213350.29902@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> mcclure@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com writes:
>I really have enjoyed this year's WC championship and am ecstatic
>that an independent won it.  But I always thought that NASCAR had
>a rather complicated scoring system.  Would anyone like to try to
>explain the points breakdown?

The points are awarded two ways: finishing order and bonus points.

On the finishing order end, the winner gets 175 points, second gets 170,
with the next few drivers get 5 fewer points than the guy ahead of him,
then the difference drops to 4 points per place, and eventually drops
to 3 points per place.

On the bonus points end, any driver who leads at least one lap gets 5
bonus points,  the drivers who leads the most laps gets an additional 5
bonus points ( for a total of 10 bonus points for that driver).

Add the points for the finishing order to any bonus points and thats the
number of points that drivers get for that race.  That's it.

Hope this is clear

John Gray
gray@asel.udel.edu
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From: geoff@hawkesbury.uws.EDU.AU (Geoff Russell)
Subject: Re: Yet more trivia from Autosport (Answers -- finally!)
Organization: University of Western Sydney, Hawkesbury
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:14:04 GMT


>In article <1992Nov12.212902.24818@wes.on.ca> tomh@wes.on.ca (Tom Haapanen) writes:
>>>    3. What links Dick Seaman, Stirling Moss and Peter Collins?

Does it relate to a count of GP wins in the light of never winning a world 
championship?

Geoff Russell
From: cg894@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brian Lee Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Buck Baker Driving School
Date: 18 Nov 1992 14:22:49 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Does anyone have any info on the Buck Baker racing school?
 
Thanks in advance.
-- 
      
Brian Wilson...                 Not from the Beach Boys!

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From: BWF2@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: NASCAR: who was driving what
Date: 17 Nov 92 13:48:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92322.084834BWF2
Organization: Penn State University


     My local paper has the top 15 finishing positions listed.
     (This is highly unusual). Anyways, they have several drivers
     listed with cars I don't think they ran. Here's the list,
     how they had it listed and how I think it should be. Anyone
     know for sure which is right.
     Driver            paper          me
     Spencer           Lumina         T-bird
     Musgrave          Lumina         T-bird
     Hamilton          Olds           T-bird

     Terry Labonte     Lumina         ?  he switches around so much

     Spencer driving a lumina wouldn't surprise me. But Musgrave was Ford
     all year and I'm pretty sure that Hamilton made the switch mid season.

     Also, does anyone know which night MRN is on. The show were Eli talks
     to the winner of the race. I thought it was Tuesday's but I'm not sure.
     Also the time would be appreciated. Thanx!
    Brian ' about 80 days to the Clash ' France
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From: dwood@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Deron A Wood)
Subject: RPM record
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:13:03 GMT

According to the Nov 27 issue of On Track a new rev record was set in 
qualifying.  I quote without permission:

     "Christian Fittipaldi was 17th after revving the engine of his 
Minardi-Lamborghini to 18,000 rpm.  His fire extinguisher also went 'pop' in 
sympathy!"

Those amazing modern F1 engines.


Deron Wood
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From: sgccgdc@citec.oz.au (Greg Clough)
Subject: Senna to move to Penske?
Organization: CITEC
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 01:31:30 GMT

Has anybody else heard the Rumor that Senna will be going to drive for
Penske this year?  I really hate the sight of blood, so they had better
keep the razor blades away from poor Nigel ...

Greg Clough.  (E-Mail:  sgccgdc@citecuc.citec.oz.au)

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From: conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Mansell's Foot Surgery--Anyone???
Date: 18 Nov 92 00:39:56 GMT
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csroach@eng.clemson.edu (Shane Roach) writes about Mansell:
: what he'd be doing before starting testing with Newman-Haas, he said he was
: going to have some minor foot operation, then play golf with neighbor Greg
: Norman.  That struck me as a bit odd, as I hadn't heard anything about this,
: either here on the net or anywhere else.  Anybody know what the deal is?

Apparently he has a bit of bone floating about in his left foot. As he
has not been using a clutch for some u\years it has not bothered him.
However now it wants out.

Conrad Drake
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From: Ardalan=Sadeghi%System%Co_LAN@deskpro.COMpt.pitt.EDU
Subject: Shifter Karts vs F440s
Organization: Bull World Wide Information Systems Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:08:20 GMT

A few months back I was looking for info on go-karting.  With a host of
valuable and informative responses thru the net, I got started with the
Akron Club only one hour drive away from Pittsburgh.  With an Emmick
chassis and a Yamaha engine I had 6 or 7 weekends of racin' in a sit-up
sprint-B class.  To top-of the season we made a trip to Mid-Ohio race
track for the Mid-States season finale race.  Its an incredible feeling
going flat out on the 3000 ft back-stretch and lookin' for the Ss.
Karting, as many have said, is the FUN Motor sport as well as the best
kept secret in motor sports.  And we plan to explore it to its fullest  :)

For next year we are looking at shifter karts (80cc or 125cc) or
the SCCA's F440s.

I was wondering if any of karter pros as well as any veteran SCCA
racers might shed some light on the two perspective classes and
provide us with some insight to help choose between the two.

As always, any info is gratefully appreciated.

THANKS
Ardalan.
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From: danjones@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com (Dan Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Why doesn't Cheever have a ride? (Was: Ganassi/Luyendyk)
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:33:04 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Mountain View

>> WHY DOESN'T EDDIE HAVE A RIDE?

David Blanchard writes:

>I have been trying to figure out how Eddie C. got a ride in the first
>place. Yeah, he lost in F1 for a while, but has he ever won anything? 
>Has he won anything lately?

Cheever hasn't won an openwheel race since 1979 during his F2 days with 
Osella.  In 1986 he won sportscar races with the TWR Jaguar team.  Earlier
in his F2 days, he was a championship leader at one point against the
likes of Pironi and Arnoux.

Jonathan Swaby writes:

>Cheever is just an ok driver. He is nothing special. He did nothing in
>F1 and nothing in IndyCars. 

I don't seem to understand what you mean by nothing.  He has had 9 podiums
in F1.  Only once did he have a teammate that was able to win a race and
that was Alain Prost and Cheever never got the same equipment as Prost.  
Given that, I think you could safely say he has driven almost (if not all of)
his entire F1 career in cars that were not capable of winning.  Other drivers 
that have never won in F1 include Alesi, Brundle, DeCesaris, Fabi, and 
Warwick.  Have they done nothing in F1 too?

Dan Jones
From: dinsdale@berlioz.nsc.com (Steve McRobert)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Parmalat
Summary: food company
Date: 18 Nov 92 03:47:48 GMT
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation, Santa Clara

In article <1e0qbsINNfu3@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cg894@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brian Lee Wilson) writes:
>
>Could someone tell me what type of company Parmalat is or was?
>They sponsored Piquet's Brabham for a number of years, and I
>was just curious what they did.
>-- 
>      
>Brian Wilson...                 Not from the Beach Boys!
They are (were?) some kind of food company

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From: bspahh@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Andrew Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Mansell brake tests Senna
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:14:59 GMT
Organization: School of Biological Sciences, University of Bath, UK

In the referenced article, thos@suite.sw.oz.au (Thomas Cohen) writes:
>In <1992Nov10.160034.49875@ccvax.ucd.ie> wboatclb@ccvax.ucd.ie writes:
>And whaddeyer mean 'Nobody brake tests a 3 time world champion'?
>Should they be exempt? Is it OK to test rookies? Mansell was varying 
>his approach speed and Senna wasn't paying complete attention as he
>was thinking about lining up a pass. No real stigma attached.

In Nigel Roebuck's column in Autosport, he wrote ...

   [... one of the stewards said after the race]  "As far as I was
   concerned, he [Mansell] gave the other bloke a brake test, and
   that's all there was to it."

   Other drivers, having seen a video of the incident, agreed.
   "It wasn't an error of judgement by Senna," one said, "because
   the speed differential was too much for that.  He was simply
   taken by surprise.  Mind you,"  he giggled,  "if anyone should
   have been ready for a brake test, it's Ayrton.  There's no one
   better at them than he is ..."



			Andrew  Henry
Sempre  Gilles					bspahh@gdr.bath.ac.uk
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From: lallo@stsci.edu (Matthew D. Lallo   (410)338-4577)
Subject: Re: Increasing Pep/HP
Reply-To: lallo@stsci.edu
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute, Baltimore MD
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:17:07 GMT

In article 1BE48AC0@Msu.oscs.montana.edu, uhdcs@Msu.oscs.montana.edu () writes:
>
>
>	I'd like to get more pep/HP, etc... out of my '89 Probe 2.2 (no turbo). 
>How would a "stinger" or a performance "chip" work?  Any suggestions would be
>welcome,
>
>Thanks,
>
>Curt


Toss in a RenaultSport V-10, or how about a 60 valve Ferrari 12?
Of course then your car would have to be able to handle the 700 some
horses and would end up looking more like an FW/14 or 641 than a probe.

That's some "pep" there boy!

Matt
From: danjones@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com (Dan Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Richard Petty on Letterman (Wed Nov 18)
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:00:19 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Mountain View

The King is scheduled to be on David Letterman tonight.  Also last
week, Nigel Mansell was scheduled on the the show.  Did anyone happen
to see it?

Dan Jones
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From: thos@suite.sw.oz.au (Thomas Cohen)
Subject: Renault reliability Re: Senna and braking
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:49:16 GMT

In <721573383.11363@minster.york.ac.uk> pete@minster.york.ac.uk writes:

>Lady Lodge Systems (lls@kings.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>: 
>: It might be worth bearing in mind the consistent failure mode of the
>: Williams Renault's this year. Patrese stopped with engine failure, Mansell
>: was going a lot slower than Senna expected - Does this add up?

I wouldn't think so - Mansell would probably have slowed a whole lot
more quickly than he did. And even he would probably steer to the 
side of the circuit.

>It's obvious that the switch from ``jungle juice'' fuels to more reasonable
>substances hit Renault harder than they were willing to admit. The
>reliability of their engines fell through the floor after the switch,
>relatively speaking -- Renaults used to be even more reliable than Hondas
>when everyone ran on witches' brews.

Well, yes. But they were also using the RS3  version of the V10 for most
of the season, which was quite an old design, F1-wise. (OK, they did have
a few minor versions within versions , the C, D and probably E, but
basically the same powerplant). But certainly on the power front they
got hit hardest and that probably transferred itself to reliability.

regards,
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From: salil@igor.tamri.com (Salil Saxena)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: F1 93 (date & track changes)
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:07:13 GMT
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA

From today's USA Today (11/23/92):

"The 93 F1 season begins 2 weeks later than this year's, with an altered 
schedule. FISA announced a proposed Asian GP at Japan's Autopolis circuit was
canceled and replaced by a GP of Europe, scheduled at Donington, England. The
season opener will be March 14 in South Africa, followed in 2 weeks by Brazil.
The new Donington race is April 11."


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