From: sl2k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Schitt Laowattana)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Regarding S&TD Information
Date: 8 Oct 92 10:50:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.Qep8=iC00WBMA4TEco
Organization: Doctoral student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from mail: 8-Oct-92 s.c.t. by A. Anuchitanukul@CS.Stan 

>.........................Text deleted...................................
>........I would sincerely suggest you have an abtract or a summary 
>attached at the beginning of each article.  That will make it easier 
>to read and comprehend.  Most people do not have time to read the whole
>article.  A table (like the one you just posted) or a list of key 
>ideas will also do. ....................................................
>.........................Text deleted................................... 

[Schitt]:

    Thank for your suggestion.  It's a good idea.  I also got the offer
from Khun Chokchai to use his ftp achive site for S&TD information. 
Therefore, the format of my posting will be:

        1. Abtracts and summary appear in the net.
        2. Further detail in each topic can be found in
snake.mcs.kent.edu (131.123.2.222).  Please read the following offer
from Khun Chokchai.

    If someone encounters with difficulty in getting such information. 
I would be more than happy to send them directly to you.

  

Excerpts from mail: 8-Oct-92 S&T info archive site by chokchai@mcs.kent.edu 

>.........................Text deleted....................................
>..................................................I have run Thai ftp site 
> which conatins stuffs related to our country. I'd like to offer you a 
> space on our ftp site to store your S&T news. Please let me know.
> ........................Text deleted....................................
> Our ftp site is snake.mcs.kent.edu (131.123.2.222). Thai directory is
> pub/Thai, so if you'd like to make your S&T news available, it'd
> be located in pub/Thai/STnews dir...
>        

[Schitt]:

    Your offer is highly appreciated.  Let's do it.  I will put all S&TD
info in the site.  

Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.thai: 8-Oct-92 Re: world by Teerawat
Pawittranon@emu 

>Khun Schitt krub, is there any statistics on Thai students who have gone
>home after their completion of thier studies aboard.  Statistic sited by one
>recent post seems a little too high (% of Thais who stay in the US).  From
>my years (10+) that I have been here I would say that it is less than 5%.
>How about those who were on government agencies' scholarships?  I hope that
>it is *almost* 100% of those who completed have gone home.

[Schitt]:

    There is no official statistics on how many Thai students have gone
home after their study aboard.  Recently, not more than 20-30 Ph.D in
Science and Technology go back to Thailand per year.  I will inform you
accurate figure when I obtain it.  I don't know about figures in other
fields For your comparison, there is one or two S&T Ph.Ds going back to
Korea every day.

    There are evidences that most of our brains (Top notches) are likely
to work aboard after completing their advanced education.

    Our Royal Thai government have initiated the MoSTE Scholarship
program which is sending Thai students aboard.  The number will be 967
students within the end of this years.  It is easy for them not to go
back to Thailand since the salary they can get here is enough to pay
back schoalrship(loan?) within few years of working aboard.  Our S&TD
will be unfortunately failed if they decide to do so.   

    For these students to gain more experience, they can have training
for one year after they've done their studies.    

Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.thai: 8-Oct-92 Re: world by Atipat
Rojnuckarin@phoen
 
>I can decide what to study and so on, to adjust to labor market, either to be
>useful to the country, or get as much money as possible :).

[Schitt]:

    Thank you for using my information.  I hope it helps.

    I will post the new salary scale for S&T personel working in
govermental agaencies soon in the net.  I hope this information will
bother people that much.  If it does, I will take the blame.

Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.thai: 8-Oct-92 Re: world by Thanachart
Numnonda@ccu1 

>.........I have different opinion regarding to his FIBO. It's good to
>have a R&D centre in our country. It is also good to encourage engineers
>to go back to work for our country. But Is it possible to distribute this
>benefits to rural area? 

[Schitt]:
    
    For those who don't know, FIBO stands for Center of Operation for
FIeld roBOtics development.  I proposed to the Royal Thai Government to
establish this center in summer 1991.  Some detailed files will be
posted later on, if the demand arises. 
    
    The benefit to rural area is realizable when we have a good
government and political system.  I believe that efficient politics is a
final solution for Thailand to survive.  Many of us in this net, who
know the political subject and its complexity (much better than I), will
eventually return to Thailand and help improving our national
administration.  What I am currently doing and will be doing is to
prepare strong, effective tools for them to excel the national
development.  Economic strength is based on S&T potential. I will be
very happy to have them as my bosses.

    FIBO and incoming S&T centers are designed to promote self-depedence
of Thailand.  The main objective is to improve production system of all
sectors. To be specific, rural area will benefit if our national
resources are properly used.  Some of inventions made these centers
should subsititute expensive equipments with the same quality.

>I found that many of my engineering students don't
>deserve themselve for the country. The only think that most fresh graduates
>care is Money.

[Schitt]: 
    
    I said before.   Students are learning from seniors.  If we can
behave as exemplary, the new generation will be active and will have
high moral standard.    


> ........................... how many graduate are working for the
>government. .........

[Schitt]:

    About 20 % of S&T students (bachelor degree) go to work for
governmental agencies.

    Recently, we've lost a large number of S&T instructors to industry
due to difference in salary.  The figure will make you feel scared of
how many current S&T instructor we have in our engineering schools.     
 
 
Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.thai: 8-Oct-92 Re: world by Samart 
Srijumnong@uxa.cs 

>.......The progress of science and technology in Thailand (or any where
>in the world) needs participation from the people in general. 

[Schitt]:

    This is definitely one of the keys which lead to the success of our S&TD.

Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.thai: 8-Oct-92 Re: world by Jonas
Skeppstedt@dit.lth 

>I think they are very interesting.

[Schitt]:

    Thank you.  Please see more at the ftp site.  There will also be
information about foreigners working in Thailand.


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