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From: mlsa@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MICHAEL LAUREN SHERMAN)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: All star dead band gets new singers!
Date: 22 Nov 92 07:11:06 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <92323.221229MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (M.A. Murp
hy) writes:
>Hmm...  For some reason I feel compelled to add to this thread this
>time around.  Dunno how many times I've seen it come up before and
>just browsed others posts.  Here are my additions.  Imagine the
>chorus with all the vocalists!  Bators, Thunders and D. Boon can
>assist Sid Vicious in whatever duties they can find in this assemblage.
>
>In article <1992Nov17.201533.1680@cbnews.cb.att.com>, ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (an
drew.j.whitman) says:
>>
>>In article <1e9p3uINN9md@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa680@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
 Morrison) writes:
>>(Vern
>>>
>>>Drums:       Keith Moon
>>
>>Mick Shrimpton
>>
>>>Bass:        Berry Oakley
>>
>>Jimmy Blanton
>
>Charles Mingus
>Jaco Pastorius
>
>>
>>>Piano:       Richard Manuel
>>
>>Thelonious Monk
>
>I second this
>
>>
>>>Guitar:      Jimi Hendrix
>>>             Duane Allman
>>>             John Lennon
>>
>>Clarence White
>>Nick Drake
>>T-Bone Walker
>
>Snakefinger
>Roy Buchanan
>Stevie Ray Vaughan
>
>>
>>>Vocals:      Elvis Presley
>>>             Buddy Holly
>>
>>Gram Parsons
>>Sandy Denny
>>Muddy Waters
>
>Zuzu Bollin
>Magic Sam
>Sam Cooke
>Otis Redding
>Marvin Gaye
>Ted Hawkins (Not sure whether he's dead, though)
>Billie Holiday
>Freddie Mercury
>Tim Buckley
>D. Boon
>Stiv Bators
>Johnny Thunders
Roy Orbison
Bob Marley
Johnny Merchant
Jim Morrison

>
>>
>>Sax:  John Coltrane
>>      King Curtis
>
>Charlie Parker
>
>Trumpet: Miles Davis
>
>Accordion: Clifton Chenier
>
>Comic Relief/Intermissions: John Belushi
>-------
>
>                                            Murph
>
>                                            Michael A. Murphy
>                                            MURPH@MAINE.BITNET
>
>If you do not understand my silence
>you will not understand my words.
>
-- 
MICHAEL LAUREN SHERMAN
758-0207
MLSA

"I really do appreciate the fact you're sitting here, you're voice sounds so
wonderful but your face don't look too clear so barmaid bring a pitcher,
another round of brew, why don't we get drunk and screw?"- J. Buffett
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: mje@cci632.cci.com (Mark J. Egan)
Subject: HELP! Locating sound effects
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:27:46 GMT

Hi group!, I'm new to this newsgroup but, I see there's
alot of expertise. I need some help.

I was in a store at a local mall last night that carries
unusual stuffed animals. The stores name was Lost Forest.

I was told that it's one of a very few here in the states.

Anyway, they had forest sounds playing in the backround which
were really cool. Something you'd like to have playing in the
backround at work or in your kids room. The music had some 
animal cries, caws, etc. but, also had a mild rythmic tune.

The teeny-bopper store clerk said the music was proprietary
and wasen't for sale. She didn't even know where it was
comming from or if it was on tape or CD.

I'd really like some suggestions on where I might get a copy
or something similiar. I have a two record set of "Sonic
seasonings which is synthetised (SP). Each side of a record
is a season (winter, summer, etc). It's very realistic. In
the summer session you can feel the heat, the winter is cold
and the fall lightening storm is ultra-realistic.

Anyway, thanks in advance for any help you can lend.

Mark Egan, Northern Telecom, Rochester, New York.
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: dx@netcom.com (dx)
Subject: Re: Ray Shea Goes Ballistic (was Re: Top 10 bands of all time)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 06:16:00 GMT

David Baggett...

> If it's going to make you furious to read such posts you probably
> shouldn't take such obvious flame-bait as "Subject: Top 10 Bands
> EVER".

But the whole point is that it's *fun* to read these posts.  It's what
makes Usenet-life worth living, isn't it?  It's the eternal Spring of
life and rebirth and a brand new school term is a-startin' (Turn! Turn!
Turn!).  These very same flame wars, brought forth to the present from
antiquity.  It's the thread that connects us all to our forebearers,
those who posted gallantly to net.music, those who created objective
proofs, those who... well, you get the point.

> It could equally be argued that no one knows who you are, nor
> ..., just because *you're* a faceless Usenet poster.

Can it?  Is it true that RAY SHEA HAS NO FACE?  Is this Ray Shea related
to the one that used to live out West -- Arizona, I think?

> First of all, given the fact that you've said little about your own
> musical exposure in this thread, you shouldn't expect any one else to
> view *your* opinions as worthwhile either (to us, anyway).

That's right, *in this thread*.  The point you seem to miss is that many
of us are very familiar with Ray's musical background.  I have studied his
musical resume several times, splayed out in public for all the frequency
modulation junkies to grasp out of thin air.  Some of us have been on
the playground a few more periods than others.  I think Ray has even cut
some doughnuts on his motorcycle, over there by the monkey rings.

Do you ever get the sense that there is a fuckwad of subtext being
transmitted through his group, and it's all flying by you?
 
> ... And don't put your foot in your mouth and ask if
> I've ever listened to any jazz.

I would think that if Ray were going to ask you that, he'd do so with both
of his feet planted firmly on the ground.  Right, Ray?

-dx
From: bgl@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Bruce Lamond)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: "Teacher" Songs Wanted
Keywords: teacher,Jackson
Date: 15 Nov 92 15:38:29 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh


> >In article <icJiTB6w165w@dogbox.acme.gen.nz> dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister) writes:
> >>> >>>Hi. I'm looking for songs (pretty much any style) having to do with
> >>> >>>teachers, like VH's "Hot for Teacher" or anything.
> 

How about 'Don't Stand So Close To Me' by The Police - that's all about a teacher

And not to forget the classic 'School Maam' by the Stranglers (from the album No More
Heroes) - definitely worth an attentive listen...

Cheers,

Bruce.
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: jrod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (J. Rodriguez)
Subject: Pop Will Eat Itself lyric question
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 04:57:27 GMT


Hi everyone!

I have a question of the lyrics in the song "Love Missile F1-11" by Pop Will
Eat Itself.  Near the end of the song, Greebo is speaking in the background,
and I can not understand everything that he says...

	????????????? brought a gun with her,
	She tried to shoot the poppies but the poppies said, ?????????
	She went to the disco 'cause she wanted to rock,
	But the sign on the ????? (wall or floor) said, 'It's just poppycock'
	She asked me, can she borrow my F1-11
	Said it's sweet sweet high and I'm told to go to heaven
	I did her a favour, she was down on her luck
	She gotta shoot shoot shoot it up, shoot it up

I don't know if this is also in the original Sigue Sigue Sputnik version also.

Thanks for anyone who helps!

John

-- 
+---------------------------+-------------------------------------------------+
| John Rodriguez            | Les Marseillais pour le Championnat 1993!       |
| CPU Box 275489            | J'espere avec tout mon coeur que la France      |
| Campus Post Office        | peut qualifier pour la Coupe du Monde 1994!     |
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: jil@uts.uucp (Jamie Lubin)
Subject: Re: SONG: Crimson & Clover (?)
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway, NJ
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 19:24:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.231208.13382@ee.gatech.edu> wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu writes:
>In article 15326@mprgate.mpr.ca, jakubec@mprgate.mpr.ca (Trent J Jakubec) writes:
>>|Greetings:
>>|
>>|Someone at my office mentioned some song that used the words "Crimson and
>>|Clover" over and over again.  I had no idea who this might be, because I
>>|kept trying to sing it to "Nights in White Satin".
>>|
>>|Anybody happen to know whether the song is called "Crimson and Clover" 
>>|(besides the usual who sings it and where can it be found)?
>
>Tommy James and the Shondells, in the late '60s, I think.  The song is called
>Crimson and Clover.

Hit #1 1968-69.
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad)
Subject: Re: Top 10 bands of all time
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:30:03 GMT

ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:

>Where, in fact, are any black artists at all, on this list of Top 10 
>Bands of genres created and influenced, for the most part, by black 
>musicians?

I've been wondering why this has never been discussed on this BBS.

>[...] (as if Rush's musicianship could hold a candle to John
>Coltrane's quartet of the early 60's [...]

HEY!  Coltrane's lyrics can't TOUCH Niel Peart's.  All the guy could
come up with is A LOVE SUPREME repeated over and over and over.

How can you compare that to lyrics written by a guy with a PhD in
theosophy?  Know what, Mr. Shea?  NOT EVEN A COMPLETE SENTENCE!!!!

-- Clay
      	  "Existence is existence throughout all of existence."
				-- Stephen Grossman
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Top 10 bands of all time
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:51:29 GMT
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <cubsfan.721966294@camelot> cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman) writes:
>"Pretentious shite" (sic)
>
>Are we supposed to be impressed by your obvious lack of
>knowledge and stupidity. (and I'm not talking about your
>lack of spelling/typing skills!)

Obviously the boy has never been to Ireland.  Wotta shite-for-brains.

>>5.The Clash- exciting,  
>
>"exciting?"

The depth of your criticism is overwhelming.

>Wow, it seems you know a little bit about music. Congratulations,
>you have now hit a sigle after striking out 20 times in a row!

Are we supposed to be impressed by your obvious lack of
knowledge and stupidity. (and I'm not talking about your
lack of spelling/typing skills!)

[funny how that always seems to happen.]

>>10.Rush- just kidding......
>
>Prejudiced bastard...

A person who doesn't like black music that he hasn't even heard is just
expressing his opinion, but a person who doesn't like Rush is obviously
stupid and prejudiced.  Man, you are too too amazing.

>I bet that if you heard Rush (and I doubt
>you ever have) you probably heard a couple minutes of one
>song. Maybe this was all you could stand. Go back to your
>coloring books and crayons.

Listen, little man, I have actually *owned* albums by Rush, Yes, Pink Floyd,
and all your other "top 10" bands.  Maybe if you could get it through
your thick little skull that not everybody shares your suburban male
adolescent outlook on life, the universe, and everything, then you'd
realize that there is room in this world for intelligent persons who dislike
Rush for perfectly valid reasons.

Now, on the other hand, Yes has been proved mathematically to be the
best band in the world, so there's no disputing that.

-- 
Ray Shea                               I woke up this morning,
UniSQL, Inc.                           all my shrimps was dead and gone...
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu       
DoD #0372 -- Team Twinkie -- '88 Hawk NT650
From: u0f98@keele.ac.uk (The Dominator)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Pet Shop Boys mailing list
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:15:38 GMT
Organization: Keele University, England


Please can someone email me and tell me the address of this.
Thanks in advance.
		Dominator
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll,alt.music.progressive
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Progressive Rock Groups/Musicians
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:04:20 GMT

glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad) writes:

>alxs_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Alex Slotkin) writes:

>>Also, can anybody give me any info or opinions on the following groups:
>>   Alpha III, Art Bears, Ash Ra Temple, Atomic Rooster, Banco, Barclay James
>>Harvest, Blodwyn Pig, Bodast, Brainbox, Brand X, Centipede, Circus, Circus 2000
>>, Colosseum, Colosseum II, Crazy World of Arthur Brown, Dream Theater, Egg,
>>Ekseption, Eloy, Episode, Family, Fields, Fred Frith, Giraffe, The Gods,
>>Greenslade, Grobschnitt, Hatfield & the North, Steve Hillage, Iconoclasta,
>>IQ, Henry Kaiser, Lucifer's Hammer, Magellan, Magma, Mastermind, Mogul Thrash,
>>The Muffins, Omega, Ovary Lodge, PFM, PM, Pavlov's Dog, Pendragon, Random
>>Hold, Refugee, Renaissance, Shadow Gallery, Soft Machine, Tempest, Steve
>>Tibbetts, Keith Tippett, Tomorrow, David Torn, Trace, The Trip, Univers Zero,
>>UZEB & World.

>They're good.

Hey, I like them too! 

Try reading alt.music.progressive if you can get it and you'll find other
like minded folks. If you can't get that group... well, here's something I 
wrote for someone else earlier today:
> By the way, I do not have access to read alt.music.progressive (I use the
> cs.utexas.edu e-mail-to-Usenet-post server to post on it).  I wish that I
> could find a way to read it.

Can you telnet?  if so it's easy to get a free guest account where you can 
read news. All it takes is a few minutes the first time to register, then
you'll need to select your terminal type, editor and edit your .newsrc file
to include the groups you want to read. Telnet to nyx.cs.du.edu and login
as guest. 

If you can ftp there are huge resources of discogrpahies, lyrics, interviews
and archives of mailing lists, at cs.uwp.edu, through anonymous ftp. 

Are you familiar with the Gibraltar Progerssive Rock mailing list? It's 
very slow these days and the list owner is trying to find a new home for 
it - but the archives there are great and it has a mailserver to send back
issues, etc. Digests seem to come out about monthly. 

Email gibraltar-request@maestro.mitre.org to subscribe

Email gibraltar-server@maestro.mitre.org with the text body

help
send index
send topical index
quit <only needed if you auto-append a .sig>

will send you a few files of help and info on what's there. The topical index
isn't up to date but is a great index to what's in old issues. If you have 
the disk space you can get the whole archives and then use egrep or a text
search utility to locate references to specific artists or mags in the back 
issues. There is a wealth of info there. 

Good luck!

- Malcolm
From: MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (M.A. Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Another request for song ID
Date: 22 Nov 92 18:08:34 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

In article <1992Nov22.053831.7397@cheshire.oxy.edu>, ac@cheshire.oxy.edu (Aileen Cho) says:
>
>  There's a Billy Squier song from the 80's which I've been trying to
>find...it sounds like "Rock me tonight/I'm walking on air...you'd think
>the title of the song would be "Rock me tonight," duh, but I can't find
>it in the Phonolog. Could somebody tell me the title and the album it's
>on?
>                              --ac

              Squier, Billy
              Signs of Life
              1984  Capitol
              Time -   N/A
              Tracks - 10
              Source - LP
              -------------------------------
              All Night Long
---->>>>      Rock Me Tonite
              Eye on You
              Take a Look Behind Ya
              Reach for the Sky
              (Another) 1984
              Fall for Love
              Can't Get Next to You
              Hand-Me-Downs
              Sweet Release

-------

                                            Murph

                                            Michael A. Murphy
                                            MURPH@MAINE.BITNET

If you do not understand my silence
you will not understand my words.
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman)
Subject: Re: Top 10 bands of all time
Organization: Priests of the Temples of Syrinx
Date: 16 Nov 92 03:28:19 GMT

In <4185@unisql.UUCP> ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:

>I fail to understand why the Police get Top 10 ranking for merely introducing
>white pop audiences to (fairly watered-down) reggae influences, while the
>people who fucking *invented* reggae are sadly ignored.  Where is Bob Marley
>& the Wailers on this list?  Where, in fact, are any black artists at all,
>on this list of Top 10 Bands of genres created and influenced, for the

Bob Marley & the Wailers were excellent...I own Legend (greatest
hits) and enjoy it immensly, but I do not think they are one of
the top 10 bands of all time.  As for your other comment, I hope
you are not oneof those people who cries "racism!" at every
opportunity, evven when none exists at all.  The reason I chose no
Black bands in my list is because the list is *my* personal
opinion, and I haven't heard very much Black music, therefore
(even if it may be better than some of my bands) I didn't choose
any. Why don't you submit your own list or something?

>no *jazz* at all (as if Rush's musicianship could hold a candle to John
>Coltrane's quartet of the early 60's, or anything Thelonious Monk could
>do in his sleep.)
 
I doubt you have heard Rush, becaus if you did, you would know that for the
*rock* genre, they are as good as it gets. Don't try to compare across
genre...it can't be done!
--
cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu

"One likes to believe in the freedom of baseball" - Geddy Lee
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: dx@netcom.com (dx)
Subject: Re: Top 10 bands of all time
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 07:22:42 GMT

William McAdams...

> 1.The Beatles- revolutionaries in every sense

Oh yeah, really revolutionary to write jingles for selling sneakers!

> 2.The Rolling Stones- Keith Richards........

Junkie.  Can barely keep his fingers wrapped around the neck of his guitar.

> 3.The Who- best live band, fave guitarist Pete Townshend

It's no surprise that his music sounds like that created by a man who's
half-deaf.  He is!

> 4.The Replacements- in many ways they defined rock n' roll

Well, of course they did... they are semanticians of the highest order.

> 5.The Clash- exciting,  

Sellouts.

> 6.The Velvet Underground- invented "alternative"

I don't have a good joke for #6.

> 7.R.E.M.- today's best band

Today, the day you posted this?  What about today, the day most people
will read this?  What about people on the other side of the international
dateline?

> 8.Ramones- invented "punk" 

Right, Joey was sitting around with Iggy, who was hanging with the MC5
at the time, after they'd been listening to a bunch of Sonics records that
they picked up from...

> 9.Led Zeppelin- some of the best riffs ever created
> 10.Rush- just kidding......

You're right, it's hard not to think of these bands together, isn't it?

> BILL

Sure, BILL was influential, but one of the 10 greatest bands in history?

-dx
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman)
Subject: Re: Ray Shea Goes Ballistic (was Re: Top 10 bands of all time)
Organization: Priests of the Temples of Syrinx
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:13:12 GMT

In <WARKENT.92Nov20145550@ltisun13.epfl.ch> warkent@ltisun13.epfl.ch (Ken Warkentyne) writes:

>Look, we can sit back and let noise pollution, which is already
>quite bad, kill this group, or we can try and do something about it.
>If the noise polluters are too numerous and too obstinate to shut up,
>rec.music.misc is doomed.  However, if Ray Shea and others can prevail,
>we might just be able to have an interesting newsgroup.

If people like Ray Shea ever take over this newsgroup, then we all
might as well kill it, because people like him, who jump on
everything they disagree with, and strike at people unprovoked
are the kind of people who shouldn't post to news until they become
civilized in their behavior. A constructive flame (or
constructice criticism ) is fine, but Ray seems to just
enjoy turning his little flamethrower on full blast and
shooting randomly at those he disagrees with.

As a last resort, try killing just the thread "Top Ten" if
you are so enraged at these lists!

>At one point I gave up on rec.music.misc because I just couldn't
>stand the junk but I also couldn't stand the idea of killing
>articles that maybe, just maybe, contained something worth
>reading.  There are only two ways out of that dilemma, unsubscribe
>or flame every offender in site.  Well I unsubscribed and I missed
>it, so now I'm back with flamethrower at hand.
>--
>Ken Warkentyne - warkent@ltisun.epfl.ch

--
cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu

"One likes to believe in the freedom of baseball" - Geddy Lee
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: dif@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au (David Faulkner)
Subject: Re: PINK FLOYDI have a few Pink Floyd questions...
Organization: BHP Steel, Sheet & Coil, Research & Technology Centre
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 00:48:59 GMT

kmagnacca@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:

>In article <cubsfan.721939387@camelot>, cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman) writes:
>> In <1992Nov16.054147.29714@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au> dif@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au (David Faulkner) writes:
>> 
>>>NEW FLOYD = NOT FLOYD!
>> 
>> INCORRECT!
>> But thanks for playing.
>
>   I didn't write that.  I agree with you, not the previous poster.
>
>Karl

I wrote it. I agree with me.
The Floyd ended with the Wall.
(Some people say Floyd ended when Syd left. I don't go that far.)
  
  -dif-
-- 
Dave Faulkner, Research Engineer                    (dif@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au)
BHP Coated Products Division, Research and Technology Centre
Port Kembla, New South Wales, Australia.
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From: mikel@networx.com (Mike Lempriere)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Progressive Rock Groups/Musicians
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:56:43 GMT
Organization: NetWorx
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Alex Slotkin (alxs_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu) wrote:
[stuff deleted]
: I am interested in getting into more prog. rock bands. Anyone have any
: reccomendations?
[lists deleted]

You've overlooked one extremely important band -- "Can".  I believe
they're french.  I heard a friend's CD of theirs once, I don't recall
the title, but they were really good.  I've never seen their stuff in
the store, but I only buy in the used CD stores, so my selection seldom
includes imports!

I haven't heard of Triumvirat in 15 years!  Are they still putting out new
stuff?

IMHO Peter Hamill sucks, don't bother with him.  However, he has quite
a career, he's played with many greats and has many albums of his own --
this is certainly a matter of taste!
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From: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: UPDATE: what's in a name !  L7 explained
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:16:52 GMT
Reply-To: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI

When I was a young sprout in the late 60s, the term "L7" was slang 
for someone who was really square (I still recall the sting that the
term packed). It wasn't complementary.
--
-The world exhausts everything except my eyes/because it is a long walk to the
world/begun before I was born. In the far corner/the dead woman bows off stage
The television/crumples into a white dot as the last/train of the evening - my
train, is announced/I lived in one place. I want to die in another 608-828-3385
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