HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: agb16@mbuc.bio.cam.ac.uk (Alan Baxter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Emplant and Amiga World
Date: 27 Sep 92 07:32:13 GMT
Organization: U. of Cambridge, England

Re AMax:
>It is a very good product with a high level of customer satisfaction. It
>works so well, it is pretty transparent.


Well, it doesn't quite work as advertised at the moment. When I wrote
to them about the floppy emulation not working, they said there was a
bug in the code which they would correct and once fixed they would
distribute freely to registered users of AMaxx II+.
While the free upgrade is nice, I've not heard of anyone who had the
floppy emulation working properly, so it shold not really have been
distributed in that state.

Regards Alan
From: Jarrett_Volzer@neonate.amiga.atl.ga.us (Jarrett Volzer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: .HQX files???
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:37:32 GMT
Organization: The Village BBS

In a message dated Sun 26 Sep 92 16:53, Jarrett_volzer@neonate.amiga.atl.ga
(hey, that's me!!!) wrote:

 J> I downloaded a set of epson printer drivers for use with Amax II Plus,
 J> so
 J> that the print doesn't come out 40% compressed on an Epson hooked up
 J> to the
 J> Amiga parallel port from an FTP site, and I don't know what to do with
 J> it
 J> (whew!).  The file has an .HQX (or .HXQ...something like that)
 J> extension. 
 J> What do I need to make this extract?  Can anyone help?  Someone was
 J> going
 J> to help me with this via Email, but I think mine was bouncing for
 J> awhile.  

Thanks to those who responded via email.  Thanks Eot for you help again (
(don't know why our mail was bouncing).  And for those who wanted to know
where I got the drivers from in the first place (I figured I'd post here
instead of via email, so others may benefit), here's some sites that should
have the drivers (thank Eliot  for these).  I don't remember exactly which
one I got them from.  It's just one file.  The name is something like
epsonprinter.hqx, or something obvious like that.
 
site: uhunix2.uhcc.hawaii.edu
path: \mirrors\info-mac\ex
 
site: lth.se
path: \pub\mac\info-mac\ex
 
site: iskut.ucs.ubc.ra
path: \pub\mac\archive\ex
 
Hope this is helpful for anyone else using Amax and printing 40% compressed
on a printer in the Amiga parallel port!  (Why in the world couldn't Apple
have made it easy on us and used standard parallel printers??  Oh, well! :)
)
 
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From: tomlin@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (Mark Tomlinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: CrossDOS 5.0 hard disk formatting problems
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:10:36 GMT
Organization: Electrical Engineering, University of Canterbury, New Zealand
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Keith H. Brown (kbrown@ringer.cs.utsa.edu) wrote:
: I've been trying to format a 4 meg partition of a hard disk for use as
: an IBM partition with CrossPC and AmigaDOS 2.04.  I used the install
: program that comes with CrossDOS and chose a 4 meg partition with 102
: cylinders to be mounted as PCC:.  I then tried to format PCC.  The
: format goes along fine until the end, and then, using the CrossDOS
: version of format I get the error: "Format Failure: disk not
: validated", and using the 2.04 version of format, I get the error:
: "format failed: Error during format".

You should not try to format the partition with any amiga format program.
The problem is there is no partitions defined at this point - and no amiga
program really knows how to create them. If you do get this going, it will
be more like a big floppy rather than an IBM format disk.

: The CrossDOS docs mention that PCC should be formatted using fdisk or
: format on the MS-DOS side of things, but is it not even POSSIBLE to
: format it from the AmigaDOS side? 

Correct.

: fdisk.  I guess these are not builtin commands and are actual
: executable files that I don't have?  I currently don't have access to
: the PC that I got my bootable MS-DOS floppy from, so I can't get these
: executables.  Is there maybe a shareware PC program that will do disk
: formatting?

You will need to get fdisk and format before you can use the partition (why
do you need to format the partition now  if you don't even have a dos to
install on it?)


Cheers... Mark
From: prf@otter.hpl.hp.com (Paul Freeman)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 16:29:27 GMT
Subject: Any Productivity Mode Apps?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications

Is there a word processor and DTP combination that uses productivity
mode? I currently have ProWrite (which I don`t much like) and I am 
thinking about buying either Pagestream or ProPage. 

If not, are there any WP or DTP packages which can operate as windows
on the workbench screen. I`d particularly like this for word processing. 
At the moment I'm finding this side of Amiga use pretty pathetic. I love
the machine for multimedia but I`m seriously considering 486 for 
DTP use. (Oh I have a 3000 and I`m not too pleased about the lack of
an AGA upgrade policy either, but then who cares.)


Are there any packages that use Productivity mode?
None of the s/w I own can use it, which seems a shame. 


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun)
Subject: Re: Printer Driver for Bj10ex
Organization: City University, London
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 15:47:48 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.130542.13083@phillip.edu.au> t9014135@phillip.edu.au writes:
>
>Does any one know where I can get a printer driver for the Cannon Bj10ex that
>works, in particular I would like to use it with Pen Pal V1.4
>

This month's edition of one of the glossy Amiga magazines (maybe CU
Amiga) contains the BJ10e driver in the cover disk.

--
Lionel Tun   (lionel@cs.city.ac.uk)
Vision Group, City University, London, EC1V 0HB. 071-477 8000 x 3889
From: soft-logik@cup.portal.com (Kevin W Davidson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: PageStream 2.21 release
Date: Mon,  5 Oct 92 17:29:03 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <67162@cup.portal.com> <1992Oct4.192917.219@sarah.albany.edu>

>Unfortunately, the 2.2 - 2.2HL patch is unable to open PageStream2.new and
>fails. I received the upgrade to 2.2 in the mail and am unable to patch it
>to 2.2HL. Is there another way out for me? I believe others are having the
>same difficulties.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Herb
>
>
>--
>Herb Brown  Math Dept  The Univ at Albany  Albany, NY 12222  (518) 442-4640
>Director,                                          hibrown@math.albany.edu
>Computer Assisted Instruction in Mathematics       hibrown@csc.albany.edu
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>

Copy all the files from the update archive to a work directory along with
a copy of the PageStream2 file (version 2.2). Then enter the command:

   lpatch -ppgs22u.pch PageStream2

This creates a file called PageStream2.new. Copy this file back to your
PageStream: directory, renaming it PageStream2.

If you bought version 2.2 new, the command is:

   lpatch -ppcs22.pch PageStream2

Kevin Davidson, Asst. Moderator AmigaZone Vendor Support - PORTAL
               <soft-logik@cup.portal.com>
        SOFT-LOGIK BBS (PCP MOSLO) (314) 894-0057
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: ToolManager 2.0 Likes/Dislikes
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1992 02:49:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.122042.19607@unibi.uni-bielefeld.de> markus@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Markus Illenseer) writes:
>  I am surprised you haven't thought of the usefullness of a dock yet.

Anything I can do with a dock I can do with a menu or a normal workbench
directory, and the menus are more convenient.

>  Hm. What's the reason you stick on TM 1.5 ? 

It already works the way I want. I don't need to set it up, and I can edit
the configuration more conveniently.

>  Ever thought that you may move the content of the 'Prefs'-Drawer into
>  a Dock, and have them instantly on a hotkey ? :)

I can also "Leave Out" Prefs on Workbench.
-- 
Peter da Silva.  <peter@sugar.neosoft.com>.
 `-_-'   "Heeft u vandaag al uw wolf geknuffeld?"
  'U`
From: boing@mcl.ucsb.edu (Geff Hanoian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: NULL:
Date: 3 Oct 92 01:08:30 GMT


	I'm about to try to use getty and auxsupport and it asked me 
	for NULL:  so I tried to make my own mountlist entry for it and
	it had a guru.  I sortof expected that but I was wondering 
	if someone had a mountlist entry for NULL: that they could 
	PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, with an A4000 w/16bit sound on top,
	mail me the entry.

				thanx so much..

				boing@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: akerman@qucis.queensu.ca (Richard Akerman)
Subject: ToolManager 2.0 sounds
X-Disclaimer: All opinions expressed herein were sent to me telepathically
              by Elvis from Mars.
Reply-To: akerman@qucis.queensu.ca (Richard Akerman)
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Queens Univ., Kingston, Ontario, Can.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 13:40:43 GMT

ToolManager 2.0 comes with lots of graphics but no sounds to run through Upd.
What are some good FTP sites for error, warning, "I'm sorry Dave, I can't do
that" type sounds?

-- 
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Semi-competent       | Akerman@QUCdnAst.BITNET     | One pretend sheep!
 Graduate Student in Computer Science              | Two pretend sheep! ...
Queen's University, Kingston, Ontario, Canada      |            - The Count
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: skank@iastate.edu (George L. Hall-Skank)
Subject: Re: Spice on Amiga
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 10:07:34 GMT

In article <kmeyer.0916@amiganet.chi.il.us> kmeyer@amiganet.chi.il.us (Karl Meyer) writes:
>>Thanks for the emailed info, Spice 5.2 works fine now.  Anyone know of a
>>version of spice that is capabale of graphics (i.e. .PROBE), or any other
>>circuit analysis software that is capable of graphics?

     I'd like to recommend SPlot if nobody has recommended it already.
It is a very nice spice postprocessor that does plotting of Spice output.

					--George
-- 
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Graduate, Electrical Engineering| exist in greater purity the less        ///
Iowa State University, Ames, IA | they are mixed together"           \\\ ///
skank@iastate.edu               |               --Thomas Paine        \\X//
From: dollens@equinox.unr.edu (C Blake Dollens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Defrag Util
Summary: yes, it works with 2.0+
Date: 2 Oct 92 00:40:07 GMT
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno

In article <9JqNRB1w165w@micromed.com> diskount@micromed.com (don hirschfeld) writes:
>Does version 2.31 work only with WB2.0+? I've got v1.1, but am afraid of 
>bugs which might destroy my partition. I have WB1.3.

Yes, ReOrg 2.31 works with Workbench 2.0.  In fact, I don't think it works
with 1.3 at all (somebody correct me if I'm wrong).  I used it to defragment
my hard drive and am most pleased with the result.  I've only used it once,
so I don't know how it compares with commericial utilities (which I've never
used at all).  Directory reads sure sped up quite a bit, though!  Just make
sure you back up your hard drive before you use it.

Blake
-- 
"That's All"            | "Fundamentally, every bar is the same as every other
  -Phil, Mike, and Tony |  one, if it's the kind you're drinking in, to end a
Blake Dollens           |  sentence with a preposition, which I haven't."
dollens@equinox.unr.edu |                            -Walter Slovotsky
Date: Tuesday, 6 Oct 1992 12:19:03 CET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: staferne@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Stefan Taferner)
Distribution: world
Organization: RISC, J.K. University of Linz, Austria
Subject: Newest fish disks

Hi folks!
Where can I get the latest fish disks (up to ff740) ?
I know some sites, but up to now, they only have fishs up to 730.
Stefan
From: t9014135@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Printer Driver for Bj10ex
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:05:42 GMT
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)


Does any one know where I can get a printer driver for the Cannon Bj10ex that
works, in particular I would like to use it with Pen Pal V1.4

thanks in advance

tef
From: mjl@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Maurice J. LeBrun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Emacs takes 40 byte with every ^Z. Why
Date: 4 Oct 92 04:51:54 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Sep29.224009.3860@darwin.ntu.edu.au> hoffmann@nutmeg.ntu.edu.au (Arthur Hoffmann) writes:
>Hi, I just was wondering why my Amiga kept on crashing recently
>when I left it on for a few hours (unattended), so I watched it 
>very carefully and I found that every time I used Emacs and did a 
>Ctrl Z to put it to sleep, reinvoke it and put it to sleep again
>without changing any text at all, the free Fast Mem was recuced by
>exactly 40 byte every time. I also found that the computer only

I assume you are talking about GNU emacs 18.58.

I don't specifically know about this problem, but have also noticed that if
invoked from a WShell (I use runwsh to start emacs in the background), then
iconize it, when I finally quit emacs WShell reports:

	***Unfreed signals 04000000!

Maybe related?

It also bugs me that if you're running emacs on a public screen,
iconification sends the icon to the Workbench screen.

--
Maurice LeBrun    mjl@fusion.ph.utexas.edu
Institute for Fusion Studies, University of Texas at Austin

Faire de la bonne cuisine demande un certain temps.  Si on vous fait
attendre, c'est pour mieux vous servir, et vous plaire.
                                [menu of restaurant Antoine, New Orleans]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: stefanb@hathi.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Stefan Becker)
Subject: Re: Bug in Tool Manager 2.0
Keywords: Tool Manager Bug Applications
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 29 Sep 92 11:46:59 GMT

ummuir05@ccu.umanitoba.ca (John Derek Muir) writes:

>	I clicked on the Exec object 'Tool Manager Prefs' and then by
>accident, I clicked on the next object, called 'term' and an edit window
>was opened for the 'term' object.

Hmm, I thought I had removed this. I'll have to look at it again. 
My machine (A3000) is sometimes too fast to reproduce such errors.

>PS; Why isn't there a Hot Key object group?

For what? Hot Keys are always bound to one object.

	Stefan

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Phone   : +49-241-505705                      Germany    ///  Amiga makes
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                                              ECG148  \XX/  -->A3000/25<--
From: wfaust@aurea.hotb.sub.org (Wolf Faust)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: PCL-PJL PageStream driver
Distribution: world
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:07:51 GMT
Organization: Not an Organization

For those of interest:  I have wrote a PCL-5 PageStream printer
driver with PJL support  (PJL = Printer Job Language, for
instance supported by the HP IIIsi).

The PCL-PJL driver also supports TIFF compression (don't know why
everybody calls this TIFF compression... it was first used on
Macs...) wich gives you a 40-50% speed increase compared to the
normal HPLaser driver.

Available on request for free....


Note: No, this driver is not intended for NON-PJL printers like
the IIIP,III,IIID...

-- 
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Germany:                cbmehq!venus!wfaust@cbmvax.commodore.com
Tel: ++(49)69-5486556             FIDO: 2:249/3.5 (<-CHANGED!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson)
Subject: Re: PageStream 2.21 release
Organization: Enea Data AB
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 12:56:39 GMT

soft-logik@cup.portal.com (Kevin W Davidson) writes:
: This is to announce that PageStream 2.21 has been released and is 
: available from the Soft-Logik BBS, the Portal Communications service
: and at the ftp sites: hubcap.clemson.edu and amiga.physik.unizh.ch.
: 
: The file name is: PageStream221.lha

Are there two versions out - 2.2 and 2.2HL? If so, is this patch
useless for "normal" 2.2?

: After the patch is complete, the original version of PageStream2
: will be renamed to PageStream2.old, the new version will be named
: PageStream2. The PageStream2.old file may be deleted if the patch
: is successfully completed.
 
: 5) The lpatch program creates a new program called 'PageStream2.new'.
:    Verify that this program has been created by listing the directory.
 
Can you decide which of the two it does?

: 6) Delete the old PageStream2 program.

I would try the patched version first...

-- 
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 Tommy Petersson              tope@enea.se              Enea Data AB, Sweden
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From: soft-logik@cup.portal.com (Kevin W Davidson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Any Productivity Mode Apps?
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 14:59:42 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>Is there a word processor and DTP combination that uses productivity
>mode? I currently have ProWrite (which I don`t much like) and I am
>thinking about buying either Pagestream or ProPage.
>
>If not, are there any WP or DTP packages which can operate as windows
>on the workbench screen. I`d particularly like this for word processing.
>At the moment I'm finding this side of Amiga use pretty pathetic. I love
>the machine for multimedia but I`m seriously considering 486 for
>DTP use. (Oh I have a 3000 and I`m not too pleased about the lack of
>an AGA upgrade policy either, but then who cares.)
>
>
>Are there any packages that use Productivity mode?
>None of the s/w I own can use it, which seems a shame.
>

PageStream can open as a window on the Workbench and supports Productivity
mode that way.

Kevin Davidson, Asst. Moderator AmigaZone Vendor Support - PORTAL
               <soft-logik@cup.portal.com>
        SOFT-LOGIK BBS (PCP MOSLO) (314) 894-0057
From: vidiot@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Rankin Eric)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Looking for Mathematica-style pgm.
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:58:23 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

aduncan@rhea.trl.OZ.AU (Allan Duncan) writes:

> Like the heading says...  I'm sure I had a demo or something like this a
> while back, and only found a need for it after the disk was recycled.
> 
> I have found reference to Scoonschip on Fish 568, but it seems limited,
> and there doesn't seem to be a Maple port either.
> 
> Allan Duncan		ACSnet	 a.duncan@trl.oz
> (+613) 253 6708		Internet a.duncan@trl.oz.au
> Fax    253 6664		UUCP	 {uunet,hplabs,ukc}!munnari!trl.oz.au!a.duncan
>     Telecom Research Labs, PO Box 249, Clayton, Victoria, 3168, Australia.

I believe that there has been a port of Maple V to the Amiga.  The cost, 
however, was quiet high as I recall...

Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: artist1@rdrc.rpi.edu (Artist # 1)
Subject: Wordperfect 4.2 bugs (as in roaches)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 21:28:44 GMT

I have the latest, and last WP update. If you open mor than one window, the entire machine slows down, and it also seems to eat memory that does not return when you close the program. I talked to the sole remaining customer support person (I was passed on by one of the Mac people... this Amiga person works in the Mac
area now), and he said, yes, this is somehting they broke when they made bug-fixes on the next to last version. At least it does not crash anymore. 

I bought WP 'cause I thought it would never crash, and would stay around a while. Dumb thoughts... that's also why i bought Scult 4-D.

David Blair

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: nix@zombie.oulu.fi (Tero Manninen)
Subject: Re: ToolManager 2.0 Likes/Dislikes
Reply-To: nix@stekt.oulu.fi
Organization: University of Oulu, Finland
	<1992Oct1.122042.19607@unibi.uni-bielefeld.de>
	<1af0o0INNlpm@swrinde.nde.swri.edu>
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:11:01 GMT


On 1 Oct 1992 14:08:00 GMT,
kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) said:

Kent> 1) I use a 1400 x 1000 Workbench screen, and the TM preferences window opens
Kent> up on it to a size of 1162 x 197. This is irritating as I have to scroll to
Kent> various parts of the screen to hit different buttons. So, it needs to detect
Kent> the size of the *visible* part of the screen to determine the proper size to
Kent> open.

Uh, oh, what is this preferences window ?
I have a 1280 x 960 sized public screen where the Prefs/ToolManager opens
its window.  The window isn't even sizable..  if I take from menues
Project/Open, the filerequester is resizable, but is the standard asl
requester and works fine.

++Tero
From: gowen@sevmsa.cs.msstate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Excellence! v3.0
Date: 3 Oct 92 13:18:37 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State University

In article <K-LLr*g11@caleb.UUCP>, jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:
> I have Excellence! v3.0.  How can I use Postscript (tm) font sizes other than
> those in the Fonts: directory?  Postscript fonts are supposed to be scalable,
> but as far as I can tell, Excellence! doesn't know that.
> 
> 
>                                                 Jim Pritchett
> 
> 
> UUCP:  rwsys.lonestar.org!caleb!jdp
>  or    utacfd.uta.edu!rwsys!caleb!jdp

     As I recall, the PostScript fonts on Excellence! will scale, but they
look somewhat ugly.  The CompuGraphic PostScript fonts, however, do look
very nice, but their scaling is a little off.  You can fix the scaling, and
the manual says how (I did it, but I do not remember).  To use the
CompuGraphic fonts, you need WorkBench 2.04 or higher, which allows these
fonts.  In any case, I have used several different font sizes for both
PostScript types, and they seem to work just fine for me.  Maybe someone
else can help you out more than me.

Lon

-- 
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e-mail:   gowen@cs.msstate.edu
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          Butler Hall Room #320; P.O. Drawer CS; MS State, MS 39762
From: davis@chem.canterbury.ac.nz (John Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: 2.1 Docs
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:12:12 GMT
Reply-To: davis@chem.canterbury.ac.nz
Organization: Chem Dept, Uni of Canty, Chch, New Zealand
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Ross Hippely - Manuals (ross@cbmvax.commodore.com) wrote:

> >Is it a complete replacement for the 2.0 docs?  Does it fit in the old covers? 
> >When can I have it?
> 
> Yes; No; As soon as you buy it. ;-)  (You should be able to RRSN.)

any idea on likely price? I don't think people are going to be overly
happy if they paid out for the 2.04 kit a mere 12mths ago, and are suddenly
faced with similar costs again for what isn't as major an upgrade.

Has CBM thought of taking a leaf from apple's books and making the
2.1 disks themselves freely distributable, and selling the manuals
to those who want/need them (worked well for system7 on the mac).

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