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From: jnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John F Nielsen)
Subject: Re: Japanese Full Size Trucks
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:30:45 GMT


Hold on here:

n article <1992Nov22.024353.13830@rchland.ibm.com>
alter@rchland.vnet.ibm.com w
rites:
 
>I just looked at one of these Toyota T100 pickups (the 1/2ton) and
must say
>that I'm not impressed.  I've been waiting a long time to see if the
    
>Japanese learned from Ford and GM's truck mistakes, but I don't think
so.
>                                  
>1.  The 3.0L engine is too small (lower hp and torque).  The Ford ranger
>3.0L has more power (can't say too much about GMs stuff as I was that
the
>local Ford/Toyota dealer leafing through truck literature and ranacross   
>the data).  Hey, the japs may make 'em more reliable, but if your gonna use
>the truck for what it's designed for, hauling/towing, I think yourwasting
>your $20,000 (4WD version I saw).


Waity a sec, I assumed you were talking about the 4.0 V6, when in fact
you were claiming the 3.0 V6 was better than Toyota's engine.

If you say the 3.0 V6 is good for hauling, and the Toyota engine
puts out more torque and horsepower than the 4.0 V6, then shouldn't
the Toyota be be MUCH better for hauling/towing than the truck you
compared it to?

john
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From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Fast Japanese Sports Cars
Date: 22 Nov 92 06:18:43 GMT
Reply-To: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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In a previous article, quadrun@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jason G Velasco) says:

>In article <1emeq8INNjtp@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>>
>>In a previous article, kiisaka@csi.uottawa.ca (Ken Iisaka the mad pianist)) says:
>>
>>>Oh, shut up and get a Honda NSX.  End of discussion.
>>                       ~~~~~~
>>Acura..
>>(yeah..i know, i know..couldn't let it slide though...:-)
>>(it being the slip up..i know referring to the closeness
>>of HONDA and Acura)
>>DREW 
>
>
>Duh.  Acura IS Honda.  The NSX is known as the HONDA NSX everywhere except
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
NAW!!! you ARE kidding, right??..
DREW

>the US.  In fact it has a huge "H" symbol on the front.  Another FYI:  The
>"Acura" Vigor is known as the Honda Accord SE everywhere except the States.
>
(      ;-) for those of us.....)
DREW
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From: sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
Subject: Re: Who's gotta Low Rider?
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 22:10:45 GMT

In article <17051@umd5.umd.edu> ui68@linus.umd.edu (Bill Kyte) writes:
>
>
>	Hey how's everyone doing out there in net world?  I'm lookin' for 
>people who are ridin' around town with their bottoms chafein.  I know someone
>out there has gotta have the same love of lowered vehicles that I have.  So
>lets gets some conversations goin'.  Just respond to alt.autos.rod-n-custom.
						      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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						      I can't get to you

>  This news group is to include customs and those Muscle cars. I just wanna hereabout the lowered minis and cars, but if you have intersts in customizing ve-
>hicles please feel free to respond. 


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From: jnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John F Nielsen)
Subject: Re: CONSUMER REPORTS
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:52:50 GMT

       Thanks James.  See, John you're wrong again, how does it feel?
Well, lets see, here MOTOR TREND (notice the magazine has a word that
has to do with cars in its name) says that the Eclipse/Talon/Laser
start at ~$12K, which is more than the Saturn.  And James is right,
with a 92hp rice burning engine (it is a Mitsu product, now, ya know),
it would drop far behind the Saturn.  Of course, the turbo version (a
damn good car IMHO) would beat the little DOHC Saturn, but its not a
good comparison test.  They aren't the _same_ type of car, you
wouldn't put "Talon, 240sx, Prelude, Probe, Mx-6, and SC" together and
expect the same type of performance offered by the previous cars and
the latter.  Like I've said, the SC is a "MX3, NX1600, Paseo" fighter.
How about Paseo vs Mustang GT?  Who do you think has the better car?
Just something to think about.

Wait a sec here! Do you realize what you are saying??? You are
supporting my arguement?

You just admitted that the base Eclipse is a wimpy car. 
Would you put a base Eclipse up against the 240sx, Prelude, etc??


The top of the line Eclipse is a very different car than the under 10k
Eclipse(check PACE or Edmunds not MSRP Motor Trend).


You say that CU couldn't use the Eclipse in a comparison when in fact
the 92hp one could be compared to some of the other lesser sporty
cars. 

So, how do you so arrogantly proclaim that I am wrong?

john

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From: rvkl60@aus18a25.sps.mot.com (Tom Mathes)
Subject: Software Programmers = Auto Workers?
Organization: Motorola Inc, Austin, Texas
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:59:46 GMT

I hope I got the attention of several of you out there in NetLand. There
is an interesting article on pg. 91 of the Nov. 16, 1992 issue of
"Electronic Engineering Times". It is titled "S/W EEs 'face massive
unemployment'".

The article discusses a new book called "The Decline and Fall if the
American Programmer", by Edward Yourdan (Prentice-Hall, Englewood
Cliffs, NJ).  Mr. Yourdon groups data processors, software people and
systems analysts in this group, and he claims that the American software
industry will go the way of the US auto industry if present trends
continue.  He sites the lousy quality control of the software coming out
of American software houses, and the excessive development costs that
are assoicated with it.  He likens the attitude of American software
engineers to that of auto workers in the 1970s, that is, egocentric,
looking down upon their non-US competition, and unconcerned about the
quality of their product or productivity.

He sites examples of Sun Microsystems hiring Russian software experts in
its latest compiler project as an example, along with the movement of
software jobs to sophisticated and cheap "software factories" in the Far
East and South America.  Already, General Electric and Texas Instruments
are tapping overseas talent, due to lower costs, according to the
aritcle.

As a consumer of these software products, I can attest to the often
lousy quality of new software we buy from several vendors.  It is often
riddled with bugs.  Several of my fellow co-workers agree with me that
if we designed memory chips with even 1/100th as many bugs as in the
software we buy, our division would have been shut down long ago.

I thought this article might jolt some of the folks out there that bash
American cars often.  Often, I note that those folks are in the software
business. Guys, look at yourselves.  The same thing may happen to you.

(I bet the flames start now :-( )

Tom Mathes                                e-mail : rvkl60@aus18a25.sps.mot.com
Motorola Inc. / MOS Memory Products Div.  phone  : (512) 928-7627
Austin, Texas
From: fan@math.arizona.edu (Paul Fan)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Advice on a totalled car....
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:32:57 GMT
Reply-To: fan@math.arizona.edu
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Nov13.190514.6943@menudo.uh.edu> rao@tree.egr.uh.edu  
(Jagannatha  Rao) writes:
> 
> I got into a wreck this morning on a freeway. I am fine, but my car got  
> totalled.  The other driver got a citation for failing to control her  
car. 

The fact the other driver got a citation is not a guarantee that the  
insurance company will pay.  This happened to me.

> 
> (3) I am assuming that the other party insurance co. (All State) is  
likely to  
> be a "hostile" claim receiver to me since I am insured with someone else  
(State  
> Farm). 

Actually I think you are lucky that the other driver has a different  
insurance company - since State Farm has every incentive to get the other  
insurance company to pay rather than paying off your collision insurance.

Good luck.

Paul

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From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Subject: Re: How do you spell relief?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:45:37 GMT


In article <184308@pyramid.pyramid.com> lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell) writes:
>>In article <BxtH82.Ix0@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> mshar@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Mshar) writes:
>>
>>>Damned it, for the last time, its is spelled C-A-M-A-R-O   
>>
>In article <4186@unisql.UUCP> wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
>>	*I* thought it was spelled D-O-G
>>
>   
>   Well, I thought it was spelled, S-E-X, but to each his own...>:-)
>	 ^^^

Naw, that's spelled M-U-S-T-A-N-G. ;-) ;-) ;-)
From: jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: 1993 Probe -- two week initial impressions (long-ish)
Date: 18 Nov 1992 18:42:09 GMT
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 140.239.3.202

ellisk@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Michael K. Ellis) writes:
>The '93 Probe in it's Canadian incarnation uses, at least in the GT
>model, its fog lights as running lights.  They turn on automatically
>whenever you fire up the engine, then turn OFF when you turn on the
>lights, turn back on if you turn the lights on via the fog lamp switch
>on the dash, and then, if they act the same way they do on my US-version
>Probe GT, turn back OFF when you go to hi-beam. (No, I don't know why
>they do this last...  If you do, I'd love to know.)

Some US states say that you cannot have more than four lamps on
simultaneously.  That means that fog lights, high beams, and low beams
is illegal -- so you turn off the fog lights when you go to high
beams.

jim frost
jimf@centerline.com
From: philg@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Philip Greenspun)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Stats on Auto fatalities - selected nations
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:04:12
Organization: M.I.T. Artificial Intelligence Lab.
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In-reply-to: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu's message of Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:31:04 GMT


In article <Bxy7Bu.HnB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast) writes:

   > Lawyers per 100,000 people...
   >
   >      US          315<-------------
   >      Japan       100<-------------
	   Ever wonder why the US isn't as competetive?  Look at these and then
   check out the engineers per capita numbers...

Apparently, the Japanese legal stats only count those lawyers who are
registered to appear in court but not in-house counsel types who draft
contracts.  So they aren't as legally lean as they appear to be.

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From: jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Sorry, blew by the article... Re: High Speed License Possibility?
Date: 18 Nov 1992 20:14:42 GMT
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 140.239.3.202
Keywords: high speed license

jbii@HDFS1.acd.com ( John O. Bell II ) writes:
>The idea I saw about issuing high speed licenses was pretty well thought
>out... problem is that a red background on license photos is used to
>indicate minors (i.e. for alcohol purchase) in some states (I know they
>do this in Illinois).

Could be labelled instead, no big deal.  On the other hand the
speed-limit signs can't be differentiated only by color-coding or else
you have problems with some of the color-blind population segment.

Others pointed out that the car alone isn't a good discriminator -- I
certainly wouldn't call myself safe at 150mph in a McLauren F1 even
though the car could be driven safely at that speed.  Since there's no
way to tell at a distance that the driver is really competant it's too
hard to enforce the lower limit.

I'm for the 85% discriminant myself.  That'd put highway speeds right
about where they should be.

jim frost
jimf@centerline.com
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From: mshar@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Mshar)
Subject: Re: FLAME! Only a Manual!
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:22:18 GMT

> dmunroe@vcd.hp.com (Dave Munroe) writes:

>>While I am not disputing the weight problems, don't you also have to factor in
>>the power loss from the torque converter?
>
>There are auto trannies with lockup torque converters.  I'm just guessing,
>but I believe that at a certain rpm, they "lock up" and lose little or no
>power through the fluid.
>

Bingo, you hit that one. Yes, many new cars with autos have a lock up
torque converter, which effectively uses a clutching device to make the
input and output sides of the converter lock together and turn at the same
rate. Therefore, in this state, there is absolutely no power losses due to
fluid friction, dry friction, etc. For an automatic at highway cruising
speeds, it is a great thing to have. 

The only problem with this is that it doesn`t function during acceleration.
So, if you have the pedal on the floor, you still get power losses that are
associated with automatics. The only time the lock-up converter works is
when the transmission is in high gear and the car is at a cruising
condition. So, for acceleration purposes, there is not gain.

Mike
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From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: Fast Japanese Sports Cars
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:52:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.231222.17960@bnr.ca> dclayton@bnr.ca (Don Clayton) writes:
>In article <By4ysJ.3zo@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast) writes:
>|> In article <1992Nov21.220007.25756@csi.uottawa.ca> kiisaka@csi.uottawa.ca (Ken Iisaka (the mad pianist)) writes:
>|> >Oh, shut up and get a Honda NSX.  End of discussion.
>|>                        ^^^^^^^^^
>|> 
>|> 	If you're gonna spend that much, wait a while and get a Viper.
>
>Oh, give me a break.  I'd take the NSX over that beast any time.  
>
>Don Clayton

	we disagree again....  :-)

	I love brutish automobiles, but I agree, the NSX would be the day to
day cruiser, but why buy a sports car for day to day driving?

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From: rjwade@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J. Wade)
Subject: Re: HOW TO AVOID HITTING THE WALL IN GARAGE
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:13:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.224651.11897@exu.ericsson.se> exulox@exu.ericsson.se writes:
>This is what I recommend:
>
> Glue wellcro to a piece of wood, a block of cement, a tennis ball and
> a soft object. Stick them all together and hang them from a bunch of
> old tires attached in the garage ceiling and the wall.  Sit in the back
> seat and drive the car until you can see the car from the front nearing
> the wall. When the cement/wood/etc. breaks your windshield or antenna,
> you know you have gone too far and should back an inch or two or until
> the boxes that are stacked against the wall stops moving.
>
> This trick can be used successfully as a form of birth control if you
> set it up over the bed.  Never tried it together with lidar guns though.
>
>---

CLASSIC! this belongs in an faq file!
From: 01ksdavis@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Rebel without a clue.)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: How to wash the underside of a car?
Date: 22 Nov 92 02:59:01 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Corporation.

In article <1ejnb7INN8re@newmdata.meaddata.com>, luiland@meaddata.com (Yum Ting Lui) writes:
> I spray the underside of my car blindly with a garden hose, is there a
> better way to do it?
> 
> Thanks,
> Lui.
> --
> 
> Yum Ting Lui                                  Source Packaging Systems
> Mead Data Central                                 luiland@meaddata.com
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	Well, what has worked for me is using a lawn sprinkler.  make sure it
gives enough pressure.  A hose at a high enough pressure will also do the trick,
(I have had occasion to use this, after parallel parking my bug in a cornfield 
in the winter accidentally.)
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From: rep@thor.genrad.com (Pete Peterson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Cruise Control w/ Manual Transmission
Date: 17 Nov 1992 19:01:22 -0500
Organization: GenRad, Inc.
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.genrad.com

In article <1992Nov17.180052.25805@unocal.com> stsshol@st.unocal.COM (Herb Lam) writes:
 >
 >I have a '91 Mazda 626 with manual transmission along with cruise
 >control.  I have only tried the cruise control to see how it operates
 >but don't use it because I usually drive in fairly heavy traffic.
 >
 >Out of curiosity, what happens if the cruise control is on and I
 >change gears?  Does it do any harm to the engine or the cruise control?
 >
 In all three cars of mine with manual transmission and cruise control, one
Japanese ('84 300ZX Turbo), one Japanese/Mexican/American ('89 Tracer ---
Winter car), one mostly American ('93 Corvette), depressing either the
clutch or the brake inactivates the cruise control, after which you can
either use the "resume" function to resume the previously set speed or
"set/accelerate" function(s) to choose a new speed.  If you do clutchless
shifts, of course, the cruise control will stay active.  In either case you
do no harm to the engine or cruise control, unless of course the shift was,
for instance, from 5th into 1st at 70 MPH.

	pete peterson
	rep@genrad.com
	(508)369-4400 x2478; Home: (508)256-5829 (Chelmsford, MA)
From: tf26+@andrew.cmu.edu (Truman Fenton)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: NOx, hydrogen, and zero emmissions
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:01:58 GMT
	<1992Nov22.195133.16417@iitmax.iit.edu>
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

> 
> Actually, a switch to hydrogen would be much easier that electrics.
>first, piston engines will require new fuel systems and heads, rotories only
>a new fuel system. This is a minimal tooling and desgin change when compared
>to eletrics, which change the entire weight balence of the car, requiring
>changes to structure, suspension, drive drain, controls, new ways of operating
>all the accesories that run on engine vacume (power breaks, power
steering, >etc)
>among other things. actually to make hydrogen work will be best option. 
>the major problem with hydrogen is storage and transport. metal hydride
>storage,
>where the H2 is dispressed in the metal's atom lattice until it is
realeased by
>heat, is as I remember a bit heavy, but does work. The goal is to get a fuel
>that has the same energy to weight ratio as gasoline, and as of today nothing
>comes close. (except for prehaps some other HC fuels, but they produce other
>emissons that there is no way at present to control)
>               -Bp
 
Accually, the switch to electric would be extremely easy.  After the
difficulties of designing better batteries, the rest is simple.  In
fact, electric cars are inherently simpler mechanically.  (The
electronics are complicated for efficeincy, but electronics are simple
to produce and require no maintainance, sans replacement if it
malfunctions.)  As for the problem of recharging,  several companies
have some great ideas.  In the latest copy of the IEEE journal, an
invention was shown that turns a parking meter into a recharging
station.  Also, I have heard of integrating solar panels into cars so
that they can recharge while parked in the bright sun.  (ie 9 to 5 every
day in Arizona or West Texas.)  

AS for the power generation,  The article in IEEE said that if every
commuter in NYC used an electric car to commute, the increase in power
consuption would be about 8% which could easily be handled with the
current array of smelly, fossil fuel burning powerplants and
glow-in-the-dark ones.   No problem

Truman Fenton
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From: ramiro@rrunner.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Ramiro Reinoso)
Subject: Re: What radar detector should I buy?
Organization: Bellcore
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 01:28:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.175219.28272@nmsu.edu>, thearn@nmsu.edu (Tom Hearn) writes:

|> Now I have a cobra trapshooter which has 3 bands (X,K, & Ka).
|> The Ka sure gives lots of false alarms due to the 
|> leaky detectors on other peoples cars.
|> I think the cobra is more sensitive than the MAXOn.
|> 
|> All radar detectors give false alarms.
|> This is because there are signals out there that have
|> the same frequency that youre scanning.
|> Theres no way to tell a police signal from a false signall
|> if they are at the same frequency.
|> 
|> 

I have a UNIDEN RD500W (X, K, and Ka wideband) and it give false
alarms on the Ka band.  I happen to have a cellular phone in my
car and when I use it, the radar goes crazy on the Ka band.
Sometime it doesn't phase it though; and one time it got K band
interference.

I also get Ka band false alarms because of the leaky detectors
in other cars.

My advice is that if you don't have cops using Ka Wideband in
your state, avoid it.  If you do, you're going to have to 
learn to live with it.
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