HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rvenable@helix.nih.gov (Richard M. Venable)
Subject: Re: Installing SR10.3 on a small disk
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:44:03 GMT

In article <schoo.721933448@cs.rulimburg.nl> schoo@cs.rulimburg.nl (Patrick Schoo) writes:
>Q: Is it possible to install SR10.3 on a small disk (80Mb)?
>
>At our department we had one Apollo DN-4000 and one DN-3000. A few weeks
>ago the DN-4000 crashed. The remaining DN-3000, which relied on the DN-4000
>for its OS, could not be used either. Still I want to use the DN-3000 in
>our network as a print server. The problem is now that I have to put the
>complete OS on (what Apollo used to call) a small disk (80 Mb). 
>
>Since the disk is too small to contain even the smallest distribution
>(Aegis small), during the installation I removed some directories using
>a second window. I removed the following directories:
>	/sau[2..12] (except sau8)
>	/sys/debug
>	/sys/dm/fonts

WAIT! Here's a potential problem-- no fonts for the display manager.
Fix this first.  If you need space, delete /sys/help and use printed
manuals instead.  You could also forego X11; that will save space.
If your sticking to Unix, you can get rid of /com as well.

>	/sys/hardcopy

The above is needed for Aegis print services (prf), but not Unix.

>	/usr/apollo/ada
>	/usr/lib.uucp
>
>After the installation the system will not reboot. It starts the phase
>II shell, but from there the Display Manager doesn't start with the GO
>command. After approximately half a minute the system returns to the
>phase II shell with the status OK.
>
>Then I tried to start the SPM. From there it is possible to start a
>shell by casting the SH command. Now I can login as user.none.none but
>I have no root permission. To become root it is necessary to start the
>llbd, glbd and rgyd. The last daemon causes the problem, because I need
>root privileges to start it. In the normal startup this is solved by
>creating an empty file /etc/daemons/rgyd. During the startup phase in
>the /etc/rc* files there is a built-in check for existence of files in
>/etc/daemons. The corresponding daemons are started with the right
>privileges. However, the SPM does not run the rc files.

Why not try to run 'init' from the phase II shell instead of SPM?
That should run the /etc/rc* files as root; of course, DM will start...

>I had a second go, reading an old registry from a DN-4000's backup
>tape. With /install/tools/rbak_sr10 (which has the uid bit set) it is
>possible to read a tape and restore /sys/registry/rgy_local.
>Unfortunately, after I try to login as root with the password I used on
>the DN-4000 the systems tells me this account is blocked for login.

Local registries aren't so useful at times.  The account data is in a
subdirectory of /registry somewhere; see if you can restore that.

Frankly, though, I'd re-format and re-install; the 'config' program,
invoked by 'install++', should allow you to select system components
via a prolonged interactive dialog about specific subdirectories.
This should help you reduce disk usage in a more controlled way.
From: johnb@HOBBES.MDC.COM (John Breen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: Need Some Advice..
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:29:38 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: McDonnell Douglas Missile Systems Company

In article <5c495be0.1bc5b@pisa.citi.umich.edu> rees@pisa.citi.umich.edu  (Jim Rees) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.192837.17737@bcars6a8.bnr.ca>, djf@bnr.ca (Duane Fowler) writes:
>
>  Not to start a religious war or anything but, as a user of both windowing 
>  systems, I'm interested in knowing what people see in Domain pads, editor,
>  etc.
>
>I use mostly X stuff now, but the thing I still use from the DM is the pads.

One thing I haven't seen anyone mention when this subject comes up, is the
DM's ability to make multiple copies of a window.  I use this constantly when
I'm writing code, so I can see one section of the program while editing
another, and it's very useful for comparing, say, program output in different
sections of the pad.  Unfortunately, HP's DM X emulator doesn't appear to
support this.

If there is a was to do this under X, I'd appreciate it if someone would tell
me.

-- 
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From: rees@pisa.citi.umich.edu (Jim Rees)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: looking for info on 10.4 and slip
Date: 23 Nov 1992 22:39:45 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan CITI
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Jim.Rees@umich.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: pisa.citi.umich.edu

In article <sasjcm.722531432@cicadas>, sasjcm@unx.sas.com (James McNealy) writes:

     I'm investigating setting up slip on a dn3500 running 10.4. I would
  appreciate any advice and experiences.

I think there's something in the FAQ about this.  It works OK, but I don't
think you can do any better than 19.2 kbps on the serial interface.  I'm
using a much-hacked version of the sr10.2 tcp, running on Domain/OS
sr10.3.5, but I've heard that 10.4 has many improvements in the serial line
driver, including larger kernel buffers.  Before 10.4 the buffers were too
small, and my dn3000 sometimes had trouble keeping up even at a lowly 19.2
kbps.  Hardware flow control works well and you'll certainly want to use it.

I've got vj header compression working, and I gave the changes back to
HP/Apollo, but I don't think it made it in to sr10.4.

I'm in the midst of dumping all this in favor of a 386 box running Mach 2.5
with a Teleos basic rate ISDN board running as a gateway to my ethernet.
Then I'll use the dn3000 as a gateway to my Apollo token ring for my dn330. 
I thought about writing a gpio driver for the Teleos board and putting it in
my dn3000, but I didn't think about it for very long.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: giza@apollo.HP.COM (Peter E. Giza)
Subject: RE: Need Some Advice...
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:00:05 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA
Keywords: atr

Herb Peyerl Writes:
|>If you want to make the assumption that IP packets are encapsulated within 
|>DDS packets, then in order to make HP-UX reside on ATR, HP must then have 
|>ported DDS to HP-UX on 400's and 700's... That must mean 700's have 
|>node-ids. Somehow I doubt that.


Just for the record.  The ATR cards are same with the exception of
few changes for the HP.  The packets are encapsulated in a 73 byte
DDS header just like good ole Domain, this is all done at the driver
level for the card.  All of the DDS-like behaviour is from the driver
there is not a complete DDS port, just enough to make you pregnant.

-peg

Peter E. Giza HP DCE T&D ~:@)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: bennett@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Steve Bennett)
Subject: Re: backup tape
Reply-To: bennett@areaplg2.corp.mot.com
Organization: Motorola, CCR&D, CORP, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:51:05 GMT
Keywords: tape

Cybernetics sells a 5 gigabyte 8mm unit that has a comprssion option to get you
up to about 20 gigabytes
-- 

#
# Steve Bennett (bennett@mot.com)
#
From: krowitz@TREMOR.MIT.EDU (David Krowitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re:  3COM EtherLink Card
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:42:55 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

The "Domain Series 3000 Configuration Worksheet" says that the Ethernet
controller card (1st card of a possible 2) should have the interrupt
request (IRQ) set to 10, the DMA request (DRQ) set to 6 in the I/O
address range set to 300-307 (hex). The second card can be set to
IRQ 9, DRQ 3, and I/O addr 310-317. Note that IRQ 10 is also used
by the Ikon 10092 parallel printer interface card and/or the serial
controller-AT card. 

== Dave Krowitz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: dan@hpwin051.uksr.hp.com (Dan Bennett)
Subject: Re: Hosed up DM colors under 10.3.5 and 10.4
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:19:27 GMT
Organization: the HP UK Response Centre
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Hi,

Try the DM command "rs -o" and look at it's help page. At 10.2 (I think)
the DM's colour table allocation was made more complex to cope with the
PVRX displays on 400's. "rs -o" forces the DM to use the first 15 slots
in the colour table in the expected (at 10.1) manner.

Regards,
Dan Bennett.
From: agosta@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (John Agosta)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:34:16 GMT
Subject: Re: Sendmail configuration for Apollos
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo


On November 1, HP came out with a new manual

	"Configuring and Managing Interoperability in a Mixed Domain/OS
	 and HP-UX Network"
	
Order Number: A2087-90003

The manual has a section on sendmail.  The manual is geared toward SR10.4 and
Domain/NFS 4.1, but has a lot of good information relevent to SR10.3.5.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: tomg@hpcvusc (Thomas J. Gilg)
Subject: fwd: Re: Xdomain on dn2500 15" mono
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:17:12 GMT

# From: Thomas J. Gilg <tomg@hpcvuse.cv.hp.com>
# To: xxxxxx@neth.hp.com
# Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 13:08:57 -0800
# Subject: Re:  Xdomain on dn2500 15" mono

> I resubmitted another SR with number 1653037119 ...

I cannot find the SR you mention.   The three SR's I know about are enclosed
below.

The real status is - the defect was fixed *after* SR10.4 was released, and
not by SR10.4 as the "fix" text in the defect reports suggest. I have since
quoted the fix text in error :-(   I will be correcting this mis-information.
Sorry for the confusion.

As it stands now, the dn2500 15" fix along with several other fixes is being
targeted for a patch train in January 1993.   Attempts were made to release
the mono driver sooner, but the temptation to defer and include even more
recent fixes won over.   The latest-and-greatest driver can be picked up
from:

     hpcvaaz.cv.hp.com: ~ftp/pub/apollo/sr10.4_patches/monoDriverRes/

it's unofficial, but it should keep you going until the official patch
comes out.

Thomas Gilg
tomg@cv.hp.com

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Defect Number:CISlx12595*     STARS SR #1650171421    Submitter: xxx xxxxxxxx
 Project: UTDCHExtern   Software:LAC4BB
 Status: CLOSED   Severity:6   Priority:5
 Resolved: 920916 Engineer: xxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx Resolution:cc
 Desc: Maximizing window on Xdomain moves off screen, 15" mono disp. info wrong

Defect Number:CISlx13172*     STARS SR #5003078063    Submitter: xxxxxxx xxxxxx
 Project: UTDCHExtern   Software:B1171A
 Status: CLOSED   Severity:3   Priority:3
 Resolved: 921014 Engineer: xxxx xxxxxx Resolution:cc
 Desc: VUE works differently on dn2500 15in Mono monitor

Defect Number:CISlx13206*     STARS SR #5000655225    Submitter: xxxxx xxxxxxx
 Project: UTDCHExtern   Software:LAC4BB
 Status: CLOSED   Severity:6   Priority:5
 Resolved: 920916 Engineer: xxxxx xxxxxx Resolution:cc
 Desc: xdpyinfo returns incorrect screen dimensions
From: chen@digital.sps.mot.com (Jinfu Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: Need Some Advice..
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:46:47 GMT
Organization: Motorola, LICD, SPS, Mesa, AZ

In article <LUTZ.92Nov19154035@hepburn.anes.upmc.edu> lutz@hepburn.anes.upmc.edu (John Lutz) writes:
>acts like the programming language that I work with all the time, fast (try
>more in a pad. (ho hum into raw mode, ho hum clear the screen, ho hum, display
>the text, ho hum hit <return> (!?!?!?!?!?!?) to go back into cooked mode.
>Furrfu!)).

But why on earth using more or less in a pad!  DM already has all the scroll
keys and the cbreak mode in DM is really for someone who misses good old
dumb ASCII terminals.  Lets recite a hundred time: "a pad is not a terminal."

I certainly welcome any better windowing environment come along to replace
DM.  Perhaps I will try to learn Emacs again for the fifth time in my life.
However, I just can't help to jump out whenever someone complaining using
more/less/vi is pain of butt under DM.

P.S.  For those of us who don't have csh source, how can we get tcsh
compiled?  Any pointer is highly appreciated.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: davidy@HWCAE.AZ.HONEYWELL.COM (David Young)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: Installing SR10.3 on a small disk
Date: 18 Nov 92 13:09:33 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


** (Patrick Schoo) on 16 Nov 92 23:20:09 GMT
** in [Installing SR10.3 on a small disk] writes:

Patrick> Q: Is it possible to install SR10.3 on a small disk (80Mb)?

Patrick> Since the disk is too small to contain even the smallest distribution
Patrick> (Aegis small), during the installation I removed some directories using
Patrick> a second window. I removed the following directories:

Patrick> /sys/dm/fonts

Well this is why the DM doesn't come up.
These are the fonts used on my node when it is up.

$ llkob | fgrep fonts
  R   nR_xor_1W            2EF67         2EF67     /sys/dm/fonts/f5x9
  R   nR_xor_1W            2EF67         2EF67     /sys/dm/fonts/icons
  R   nR_xor_1W            2EF67         2EF67     /sys/dm/fonts/f5x9.b
  R   nR_xor_1W            2EF67         2EF67     /sys/dm/fonts/f5x9
  R   nR_xor_1W            2EF67         2EF67     /sys/dm/fonts/f5x9.iv




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From: vstem@cobra.calgary.chevron.com (D. Stewart McLeod)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: sr10.4 and disk space
Keywords: disk space..sr10.4
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:31:03 GMT
Organization: chevron


 
 I am posting a question in regards to disk space and sr10.4.
 
 Workstation config: dn3500 (running HPVUE - no DM)
 			25 Mb RAM
 		       146 Mb disk			
 
 Now the problem or question. When I do an lvolfs (or df) I get 
 that there is 18779 blocks free (~18Mb). When I do a du from
 the root level I get usage of 106083.
 
 	146868
       - 106083
 	------
 	 40785  <== there is about 22Mb unaccounted for. Is this swap
 		    space taken up by HPVUE??? Seems kind of excessive!
 
 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: schoo@cs.rulimburg.nl (Patrick Schoo)
Subject: SOLVED: Installing SR10.3 on a small disk
Organization: University of Limburg, Maastricht
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:39:24 GMT

The problem is to put the complete OS on a small disk (80 Mb). Since
the disk is too small to contain even the smallest distribution (Aegis
small), during the installation you have to remove some directories
using a second window. I removed the following directories:

	/sau[2..12] (except the sau for your machine)
	/sys/debug
	/sys/hardcopy
	/usr/apollo/ada
	/usr/lib.uucp
	/usr/X11

In my first attempt I also removed the directory '/sys/dm/fonts',
because I incorrectly assumed that the fonts loaded by the boot tape
were sufficient to start the dm.

However using the above procedure I still had a little problem with the
rgyd because it wasn't installed in the 'etc' directory. A simple copy
from the /install/ri.apollo.os.10.3/etc/rgyd solved this. After the
installation and a reboot I have approximately 18 Mb of free storage.


Thanks to all who suggested me to keep the dm fonts. 

= Patrick Schoo (schoo@cs.rulimburg.nl) =
= Department of Computer Science        =
= University of Limburg                 =
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: rvenable@helix.nih.gov (Richard M. Venable)
Subject: Re: backup tape
Keywords: tape
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 04:41:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.012114.5623@utagraph.uta.edu> root@mecad.uta.edu (Operator) writes:
>
>What is the largest size of back-up tape  in terms of megabyte that Apollo DN  
>3500, 4000 and 5500 can take?

If you mean tapes for the built-in 1/4 in. cartridge, DC600 tapes hold 60 Mb
in 'wbak' format, DC300XL tapes hold 45 Mb, and DC300 hold 30 Mb.  The
designations are from 3M, but are usually cross-referenced in most catalogs.

If you are refering to external drive capacity, Workstation Solutions makes a
DNxxxx compatible (tar, rbak, wbak, & enhancements) drive for 8 mm tapes that
holds 5 Gigabytes (5000 Mb).  The 8 mm tapes are identical to those used for
video, but meet higher specifications for data storage.  The drive costs over
$5000, but less than $10,000; the 4000 will probably need an AT bus SCSI board,
the 5500 may be able to use it's own internal SCSI, I'm not sure about 3500.
Other companies may also provide 8 mm and the new 4 mm (or DAT) with lower
capacities like 1 or 2 Gigabytes, depending on tape length; WS makes a 2.2 Gb
drive as well.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson))
Subject: Re: named causing tcpd to spin
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:18:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.140615.3143@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> bob@sna.co.umist.ac.uk (Bob Nutter) writes:
>For the second time lately, named seems to be the cause of tcpd going into a
>spin with the consequence that all connections are lost. Rebooting has no
>effect, other than it works for a few minutes and then off it goes again. The
>only cure is to stop running named on that machine.
>
>Has anyone else had this happen to them, and if so, what's the cure? We've got
>10.4 but I don't really have the time to put it on (we're at 10.3.5 at the
>moment). Is tcpd/named different at 10.4?

Named does not work properly. Using the $INCLUDE directive in the
data files causes massive corruption of the data as seen by
named (many host IP addresses are wrong, some end up with 255
in them which is illegal). Also, the SOA numeric data fields (time to
live, etc) are incorrect, and SOA records in the included files are
not seen (messages in /usr/adm/syslog say:

Oct 28 10:12:53 aurum named[1081]: restarted
Oct 28 10:12:56 aurum named[1081]: primary/chem.utoronto.ca: no SOA record
Oct 28 10:12:59 aurum named[1081]: primary/chem.toronto.edu: no SOA record

). This then causes named to fail to resolve names it should be resolving.

I tried removing all the $INCLUDE from the data files, and that didn't
fix the problem, so I recompiled named from original source code,
plus some patches. That version of named is what I run on our HP-UX and
Domain/OS systems (HP-UX named has the same problem), and it seems to
work.

This is still broken at SR10.4.

On a related front, note that the 'gethostbyname' system call does not
return the fully qualified domain name on nodes running a name server
(it works properly on systems that access remote name servers). This
caused one of the USENET news programs (nntp or rn) to fall over, since
the host name didn't match what it expected.
-- 
What are the chances that any HP computer system will ever "work" properly?
... and Slim just left town. -*- Mike Peterson, SysAdmin, U/Toronto Chemistry
From: bob@sna.co.umist.ac.uk (Bob Nutter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: named causing tcpd to spin
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:06:15 GMT
Organization: UMIST Computation, PO Box 88, Manchester, UK

Hi,

For the second time lately, named seems to be the cause of tcpd going into a
spin with the consequence that all connections are lost. Rebooting has no
effect, other than it works for a few minutes and then off it goes again. The
only cure is to stop running named on that machine.

Has anyone else had this happen to them, and if so, what's the cure? We've got
10.4 but I don't really have the time to put it on (we're at 10.3.5 at the
moment). Is tcpd/named different at 10.4?

bob
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From: lampi@halcyon.com (Michael Lampi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: backup tape
Keywords: tape
Date: 22 Nov 92 23:55:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: nwnexus.1992Nov22.235530.26614
Organization: MDL Corporation, Redmond, WA (206) 861-6700=

In article <1992Nov21.221931.18218@edsi.plexus.COM> chuck@edsi.plexus.COM (Chuck Tomasi) writes:
>root@mecad.uta.edu (Operator) writes:
>
>:)What is the largest size of back-up tape  in terms of megabyte that 
>:)Apollo DN  3500, 4000 and 5500 can take? 
>
>Depends what media you are referring to.  Some of my DN machines have
>internal quarter inch cartridge (QIC) tapes.  Those tapes hold 60MB
>each (for a 600' tape.)  I also have an Exabyte 8200 8mm tape drive and
>an Exabyte 8500 8mm tape drive connected to my DN machines.  They hold
>2.5 and 5.0 GB respectively.  There are plenty of other options.
>-- 

I know of several tape drives that store as much as a terabyte on a
single piece of media that can be connected to the Apollo DN 3500, etc.
systems and be used through the standard utilities.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: cazander@ae5 (Koos Cazander)
Subject: Re: SOLVED: Installing SR10.3 on a small disk
Originator: news@phcoms.seri.philips.nl
Organization: SERI-CEN Network Services, Philips C&P, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:25:41 GMT

Patrick Schoo (schoo@cs.rulimburg.nl) wrote:
: The problem is to put the complete OS on a small disk (80 Mb). Since
: [deleted]
: After the
: installation and a reboot I have approximately 18 Mb of free storage.
: 
: = Patrick Schoo (schoo@cs.rulimburg.nl) =
: = Department of Computer Science        =
: = University of Limburg                 =

You can gain another 7 Mb by deleting the extra display drivers.
I have a 425 color node, and could delete the folowing drivers:

## Removed from the disk are: ##
##  The display type managers ##
#1M9
/sys/mgrs/dtm_color14
/sys/mgrs/dtm_color7
/sys/mgrs/dtm_fm
/sys/mgrs/dtm_mk3_4kpage
/sys/mgrs/dtm_tsg2d
/sys/mgrs/dtm_wood
#5M9
/sys/mgrs.split/dtm_color14
/sys/mgrs.split/dtm_color4
/sys/mgrs.split/dtm_dn10000_8
/sys/mgrs.split/dtm_fm
/sys/mgrs.split/dtm_mk3_4kpage
/sys/mgrs.split/dtm_mono_big
/sys/mgrs.split/dtm_mono_small
/sys/mgrs.split/dtm_tsg2d
/sys/mgrs.split/dtm_wood

You can check which one are in use with:
/systest/ssr_util/llkr ./mgrs/dtm*
/systest/ssr_util/llkr ./mgrs.split/dtm*/*

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From: wlw@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Will Walker)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:45:56 GMT
Subject: Re: Just what is in a Apollo 9000/730?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA