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From: evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Doug Evans - CIT Network Operations)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Buffalo television\
Date: 8 Sep 92 04:25:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Bu8rxC.Muu@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v130pwbq@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST) writes...

[...]

>Believe it or not i'm from this area so take chill pill. I just don't 
>understand why this FUCKING city must always exclude other games from telecast
>this also includes NBA games. I would have liked to see the Jets lose their
>first game, but this FUCKING city must have decided to make the choice for
>us. And if you can't tell I HATE the Jets.

Like someone else mentioned - there are some strange clauses in the TV
contracts with the NFL. If I'm correct, the rule is that the TV station
broadcasting the local home game cannot broadcast a double-header. Why?
I don't know.

It's got nothing to do with Buffalo. It applies to all NFL cities.


Doug


                                  |                              Doug Evans
                                  | State University of New York at Buffalo
                                  |             evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
From: patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: New Cowboys
Keywords: Haley
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:13:20 GMT
Reply-To: patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx


  The Dallas newspaper stated that Haley is a free agent after this year.
SF eliminated the final year of his contract in an effort to appease him 
last offseason.  That's why we got him so cheap, we were leasing not buying. :)



Other news:  Casillas should be available, Maryland -- maybe/maybe not.  Emmitt
trails Terry Allen (vikings) in the race for rushing title.  Cleveland stole
OG Myslinksi off the 'Boys practice squad.  Myslinski was the last of four
OL drafted by Dallas this year.  2 were cut, Milstead was traded to the Browns.
From: tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: MNF announcers
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:15:28 GMT
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando

In article <1992Sep9.110218.1@cua.edu> 50zhouh@cua.edu writes:
>I hate those ABC MNF announcers!

You just have to watch it correctly. Cold drink (lately that has been
rum and snagglesaurus grape kool-aid), comfy chair, and most
importantly, yelling SHUT UP FRANK at just that moment when he speaks.
You come over to my house sometime and my friends and me (I) will teach
you the subtletys of SHUT UP FRANKING. Most amusing and a great way to
pass a Monday night.

Tony (go cleveland) Travaglini
tech@cs.ucf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: gordons@netcom.com (Gordon Storga)
Subject: Re: Instant Replay
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 07:44:59 GMT
Organization: Stay Awake Software

<BuArMB.AIo@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> micss@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Stephen Mickio) :
><1992Sep8.183040.12666@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>, bggreenberg@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Brian Greenberg) writes:
>>         I'm really suprise  that I didn't see this discussion yet.  If you saw 
>> last nights game it is clear that the NFL needs instant replay back.  Not only
>> did the ref blow the call he screwed it up twice.  First of all, it was not
>> caught it was a trap.  And secondly, if  (a big if) it was caught  he was
>> certainly down  on contact.  Not only did this play give the Skins the much
>> needed momemtum  switch it also gave them a touchdown.  I do agree that replay
>> takes way too much time, but  I think it is a great addition to the game.
...
>Well Brian, YES the officials did make a mistake.  One that DID end up in the
>Redskins scoring their only TD of the game, BUT wasn't it nice to see a play
>and not worry that you would see it 10 times as the idiots in some box
>replayed it and watched over and over again only to say "After further 
>review, the play stands as called."??

But we did see the play several times anyway.  Sure the game moved along,
but Dallas (in this case) was ripped off big time.  The worst case is the
Redskins get big momentum and beat Dallas by 6 points.  Luckily, for
Dallas (and the ref's health), they didn't.

>I am a strong supporter against the Instant Replay.  I think the officials are
>much happier without it and their calls show it.  

Nothing personal, but who gives a fuck whether the officials are happy
without it or not.  We don't pay to see the officials.  Their blown calls
can effect a players livelihood and paycheck.  Of the games I saw this
weekend every one of them had a bad call in it that could have been
overturned with IR.

>                                                  The game also moved much 
>better (or as good as it could go with the 3 stuges anouncing it) without it.

Enforcement of the replay two minute rule, and a limit to the number of
replays you can request would take care of this anyway.  The game ran
3 hours and 12 minutes as it was.  I could handle 3 hours and 14 minutes
with a correction.

>One idea if the feel they MUST have it would be to adopt the USFL ruling. 
>Each team can ask for a review of a play, (as many as they want to ask for
>upto 3)
>per game.  The only drawback is that if they are wrong (ie correct call is 
>made on the field) then they loose 1 (one) timeout. This would get rid
>of the useless dead times of a game when they check a call and put some
>pressure on the coaches to make a quick decision if they want to check it.
>It also allows the league to only have 1 (one) official up in the box to
>make the calls instead of two.  

I like it.


Gordon
-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: bradletm@ntmtv.UUCP (Tim Bradley)
Subject: Re: What's up with Butts?
Originator: bradletm@rastaban
Organization: Northern Telecom Incorporated
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:45:37 GMT

From article <kehVEN200Uh7Q3i_98@andrew.cmu.edu>, by Christopher Kelly <ck3s+@andrew.cmu.edu>:
> Does anyone in the San Diego area know why Marion Butts seems to be
> underachieving?  Are they emphasizing the pass or Rod Bernstine?  Or is
> he hurt?
> Help!  I keep using him in my FFL and getting nothing in return. 

I have the same problem.  I've got him in two FFL leagues.  I started
him in one and not in the other(I had a decent 4th back).  The USA Today
Weekend Edition (Fri./Sat./Sun.) is a great source of info when deciding
who to start each week.  This past weekend's edition said that Butts is
injured and was questionable for the game.  Questionable is supposed to
mean that he has a 50% chance of playing.  Seeing that he got 78 yards
this past weekend, I would say that he should do even better when
healthy.  Don't panic yet, but check the USA Today Weekend Edition for
his ongoing status.  Hope this helps...


							- Tim

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: ded@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (nod sivad)
Subject: Re: Late Game Updates ...
Reply-To: ded@aplcen (nod sivad)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 16:56:39 GMT

>>Maybe your heart is in the right place, but your brain isn't.  At least
>>use a key word like FLOTSAM in the subject line so we can skip
>                     ^^^^^^^
>
>May be the subject line: Late Games Update was a little too vague 
>for you, maybe it should be: Skip This Article Pinhead.

No, it should have been: Look before you post, Pinhead.

I skip articles all the time, and I skipped some of the above, but 
unfortunately the subject line changed.  If FLOTSAM had been in all 
such posts, this would have been easy.

This is just the tip of a much larger problem.  This newsgroup used
to be manageable.  Now it has become a large volume newsgroup.  I 
skip articles when I can, but still a significant amount of time is
spent wading through drivel (defined as everyone else's posts ;-) ).

Unfortunately, I'm probably also skipping over some informative and
interesting posts, but that's the nature of the information beast.
One thing we can all do is *think* before we post.  Updates for 50
people on a 200,000 user group is not good use of the Internet.  This
is not a flame of the guy who did this.  He thought he was doing 
a good thing.  All I ask is that he thinks about the bandwidth issues
involved here and reconsiders whether his updates were such a good idea.


					me

P.S.  Yes, I know.  Not only did we have to wade through
the original nonsense, but now we have to wade through the complaints
about the nonsense.  Well, at least I didn't change the subject line.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: Abe speaks from dead (was: Re: GOD I HATE THE RAMS!)
Keywords: Must have been a seance
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 02:47:54 GMT

In article <7SEP199214052584@ahab.mit.edu> kettler@ahab.mit.edu (KETTLER, THOMAS R.) writes:
>In article <1992Sep4.213432.14298@PacBell.COM>, jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John 
>P. Gloria)  writes...
>>Why are so defensive? What are you, a commie?!  As Abe Lincoln
>>once said in 1873, "Them rebels under estimated us Yanks".
>
>He did? It must have been in a seance. After all, he was assassinated in 1865 
>by John Wilkes Booth or did you skip class when the teacher went over the Civil 
>War. d::-)
>
>					Sincerely yours,
>
>					Thomas R. Kettler "Bengals Fanatic"

Yeah, I knew I that.  I was just testing you, and you passed with
flying colors. You deserve a * for that!
-- 
        ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
 		"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination
	       is out of focus."   -     Mark Twain
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: thaddeus@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thaddeus R. Crews)
Subject: Re: Percy Snow?
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:51:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.203029.25720@news.iastate.edu> knight@iastate.edu (David P Bonthuis) writes:
>	Does anyone know whatever happened to Percy Snow?  Is he still with
>the Chiefs and just not playing?  I know in his rookie year they only
>played him in obvious run situations because he didn't defense the pass
>very well.  I can't believe he would be cut.
>
>Go CHIEFS!!!!!!
>

1. Percy Snow is a good run-stuffer, but is lacking in pass defense skill.
2. The Chiefs are a quality team, but lack a quality wide receiver.
3. The Redskins have depth at wide receiver, but need a run-stuffing MLB.

SUGGESTION: Percy Snow should be traded to the Redskins for Rickey Sanders!!!

The Redskins and the Chiefs are my two favorite teams, so I am not trying to
make one team better at the other's expense.  What do the Washington and KC
fans think about this trade idea?
-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: htilney@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Steelers win at Houston!
Organization: Clark University
Date: 6 SEP 92 21:40:08 GMT

I was worried about Pittsburgh's secondary, but apparently Moon had
five or six interceptions. Does anyone know if Woodson played? I didn't
get the game here in central Mass., but they did televise that fake punt
as a highlight! I will be looking for O'Donnell's stats...

A great win for coach Cowher. The Jets are next!


Bart
From: wayman@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Jeffrey Wayman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Where are the Chiefs fans???
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:37:02 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Sep14.004722.42962@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> maryb@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>Where are the Chiefs fans???  I looked through the entire listing and only
>found a couple of inquiries about Christian Okoye and Percy Snow.  
>
>The Chiefs are 2-0 for the first time since 1985 and David Krieg (late of the
>Seattle Seahawks) is promising at QB.  They also drafted Matt Blundin (QB) and
>he played in one of the preseason games.  They seem to have what it takes to
>move on in the playoffs and I'm hopeful they will end up in the Superbowl.
>
>Today in the game against Seattle Okoye became the all-time rushing leader for
>the Chiefs.  He passed Ed Pololak.
>
>Come on Chiefs fans!!!  Let's get out there and POST!!!

I'm here, but I'm afraid......
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Subject: POOL - Picks for Week #2 (FINAL REPOST)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:08:47 GMT

Week 2
------

PLEASE DOUBLE CHECK THE FORM BEFORE MAILING IT!

Mail this form to davewood@cs.colorado.edu with the word "picks" in the
subject line.  Be sure to choose one and only one team for each game.  Mark
your choice with an 'x' in the appropriate box.  Put your initials after the
word "Initials:" (ON THE SAME LINE!) at the bottom of the form.  If you have
questions about this form, send them with the subject "fbproblem."  If you
still need to sign up, YOU MUST SEND A SEPARATE MESSAGE with the word
"signup" in the subject line.  Do not reply to this message unless it is to
send in your picks.  See the Rules/Signup post for more information.

WEIGHTS: Assign 10 points to 4 different games.
	 Assign  7 points to 5 different games.
	 Assign  5 points to 5 different games.

This form is due at 10 am PST (5 pm GMT) on Sunday, Sep 13.  NO EXCEPTIONS!

DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE!

 WT  Away                       Home
*------------------------------------------------*
[  ] [ ] Atlanta		[ ] Washington       
[  ] [ ] Chicago		[ ] New Orleans      
[  ] [ ] Dallas			[ ] NY Giants         
[  ] [ ] Green Bay		[ ] Tampa Bay      
[  ] [ ] Minnesota		[ ] Detroit        
[  ] [ ] LA Raiders		[ ] Cincinnati    
[  ] [ ] Seattle		[ ] Kansas City      
[  ] [ ] Buffalo		[ ] San Francisco    
[  ] [ ] Houston		[ ] Indianapolis     
[  ] [ ] NY Jets		[ ] Pittsburgh       
[  ] [ ] New England		[ ] LA Rams      
[  ] [ ] San Diego		[ ] Denver         
[  ] [ ] Philadelphia		[ ] Phoenix     
[  ] [ ] Miami			[ ] Cleveland          
                                
Initials: 

DID YOU PUT YOUR INITIALS ON THE SAME LINE AS THE WORD INITIALS???  PLEASE DO!

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: Buffalo Bills are underdogs
Keywords: Niners Bills
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:20:28 GMT

In article <56079@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.162012.24024@lclark.edu> greco@sun.lclark.edu (Peter Greco) writes:
>>John beat me to this post.  I can't wait to hear from some knowledgeable
>>Bills fan (or any other wannabe who dislikes the success of others) about how
>>"Vegas odds don't win football games" or "Vegas oddsmakers must be Niner
>>fans."
>
>I'm not a Bills fan, but as has been pointed out on this net before, Vegas
>odds are in no way intended to indicate who "they" think will win the game.
>Their intent is to generate the most betting action(and the most money
>for their casino) possible on a given game. 
>
>The spread is set with that in mind.
>
>Russ Smith
>*******************************************************************************
Point well take Russ.  However, not counting Vegas, all the sport magazines,
sport analyst agree that the Niner's are a better team and they SHOULD win
the game.  There are no guarantees in games.


-- 
  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
  "I have great faith in fools - self-confidence my
   friends call it."        Edgar Allan Poe
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: GIANTS ........ ARRRRRGGGGHHH !!
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 03:52:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.012641.1863@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lu) writes:
>John P. Gloria (jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM) wrote:
>> In article <6SEP199219273412@zeus.tamu.edu> mcs4041@zeus.tamu.edu (SHARAT SHEKHAR) writes:
>> >
>> >	is it time to fire Handley or what ??!!
>> >
>> >	How the fuck could a team that won a superbowl 2 seasons ago (and that
>> >goal line defense that stuffed the niners at the 1 yd line was a reminder) end
>> >up in this sort of fucking mess .............
>> >
>> >	FUCK EVERYTHING ... sorry but i'm, in a nasty mood
>> >
>> >	and pardon the f---ing language.
>> >
>> It happens to all of them at one time or another.  There was
>> some hard hitting going on both sides and the defense on the
>> Niner's, set the tone.  With four possible offensive threats on 
>> the Niner's side, they could have beat just about any team
>> today.
>> -- 
>>         ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
>>  		"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination
>> 	       is out of focus."   -     Mark Twain
>
>Don't forget how badly the giants play against the 9ers. The last few
>encounters have been won by the leg of Matt Bahr. For some reason, The
>giants never do that well against the 9ers (i though that Haley had
>something to do with it, but throw that out the window now).
>
I thought the Giant's always played the Niner's pretty good.  Prior
last Sunday's game, the scores had been rather close.
-- 
        ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
 		"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination
	       is out of focus."   -     Mark Twain
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Re: Merrino Breaks Hearts in Claveland.
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:11:43 GMT

In article <20341@plains.NoDak.edu> sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan ) writes:
>
>Boy.... I HATE MERRINO!!!!!!!!     
>
then perhpas you should chanell your hatred into something positive, like
perhaps learning to spell his name.

MARINO.

oh yeah, its Cleveland, too,. Have  you thought about running for V.P.?

-rob


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Niners vs Bills UPDATE
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 21:02:44 GMT

Score:  2nd QTR 
Niners: 14
Bills:  10

Niners:
Young to Odessa Turner - TD - 1st quarter
Rathman run, TD - 2nd quarter
NOTE:  Cofer has missed ONE FG attempt.

Bills:
FG: 3 points
Kellys to Thurman Thomas - TD 2nd qtr

Who is this guy, Odessa Turner?...from the NY Giants, hey
thanks NY.  

Another Odessa Turner reception for 57 yards.

Watters is looking real good.  Rice got hurt, but is back
to the sideline (not playing yet).

So far Young is mixing and scrambling around.
Looks like the Niner's have too many offensive weapons.

2nd Qtr: Thomas made an exellent pass run for 25 yds from Kelly.

30yds, Kelly to Reed...they are moving the ball right now.

20yds, Kelly to Thurman Thomas, TD! Damn!!!

Score:
Niners: 14
Bills: 10

Looks to be an exciting game!  Go Niners!

MORE UPDATE, still 2nd QTR.
Young to Sherrad, 39yds - excellent crossing patterns by Niners 

Watters run to the 12yd line.  This Watter RB is looking
damn good.

Niners stumbled, had to go for a field goal

SCORE UPDATE:  Cofer FG (barely got it in)

Niners: 17
Bills:  10
-- 
  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
  "I have great faith in fools - self-confidence my
   friends call it."        Edgar Allan Poe
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: killer@robin.cs.hut.fi (Kalle Kivimaa)
Subject: Re: taunting and crushing egos
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, CS lab
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 12:51:11 GMT

>In article <1992Sep12.002834.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu> rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:
>>for playing like a cowboy with his 6 shooters?  From Ali to the early Bobby 
>>Fischer, they recognized that the game is not a sterile exhibition but one 
>>inwhich you try, in Fischer's words, "crush his ego." When you've done 
>>that, the rest will follow. These sports are mental too and if you can 
>>distract your opponent, that's part of the game.  

Distracting the opponent is one thing, trying to make him mad is another.

Chess and boxing are bad examples for taunting in football.  I would
prefer soccer, basketball and ice hockey.  In football the officials
have hard time trying to keep the tempers down enough for no fighting
to take place.  In chess you usually do not even touch your opponent
and in boxing you will expect punches anyway from your opponent.

Should taunting become legal in NFL, there will be an increase in
fights on the field.  If you want that, then fine, but what will
you say when some big linebacker gets mad at your favorite
quarterback who taunts him constantly and decides to hit him in
the back two seconds after he has thrown the ball?  OK, it will
get at least 15 yards for the LB, but the QB may be out of the
game!
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From: ded@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (nod sivad)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: need stats for Browns/Dolphins game
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:55:14 GMT
Reply-To: ded@aplcen (nod sivad)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University

>2 rushing yards (funny, it wasn't listed, but on one of the sacks, he actually
>gained 2 yards..)

Are you sure?  I thought a sack, by definition, had to occur behind the
line of scrimmage.  Otherwise, Steve Young gets sacked all the
time...20 yards down the field!

					me
From: kevinc@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: GAME STATS
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:32:15 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


 I love the addition of the game summaries of the Wash Atl game.
 
 ? Is this an easy thing to do or does it take the usual 20 years
   to download this data. Reason being, it would be nice to see 
   these stats for all games for the past week-end/Monday nite.

Kc
From: frigo@asiago.med.ge.com (Fred Frigo 5-5806)
Subject: Packers and Buckley 
Reply-To: frigo@opustech.com
Organization: Opus Technologies, Inc.  Brookfield WI 
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 17:08:30 GMT


Terrell Buckley is going to make a major announcement today
regarding his status with the Packers.  The announcement will
be made from Green Bay, so I assume that means he will sign.
I can't imagine him flying up to Green Bay to say that he won't
sign, then hanging around town to have a few beers and catch 
a "fish fry".

Buckley is the only first round draft choice who has yet to sign.

Buckley has an opportunity to play baseball with the Atlanta
Braves, but he most certainly will not be paid $1.5 million
in his first year.

Buckley could also sit out the entire year and become a free
agent next year.  Buckley's agent, Polston, is negotiating his
first contract for an NFL first-rounder.

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