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From: v026ltr5@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Monty)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Damned if you do, damned if you don't...
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:43:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul22.050814.3212@mr.med.ge.com>,
hinz@bonfire (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987) writes...
>I think the constructive thing to do is to empathise with the angst of
>others, who are sharing a very personal thing with the rest of us.  With
>understanding comes, perhaps, alleviation of some of the angst, that of
>the 'nobody understands me' angst.  OK, you know who you are, who else
>feels this way sometimes?  When you are wallowing in your own world of
>feelings, and not sharing them, it's a thousand times worse than having
>somebody who can say "I understand", or even "I don't understand, but I'm
>listening."

I know, I know. And I really tried to. But in this case its so hard when
the other person has so many things to envy (like a job, a SO, etc.).
I guess I shouldn't have said what I said, but I STILL think its
hard to sympathise for someone with so much.

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{                                            | Matthew P. Mason        }
{          are 'friends' electric?           | SUNY Buffalo Law School }
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Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: tcarsten@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Teresa C D Carstensen)
Subject: Re: Damned if you do, damned if you don't...
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:42:20 GMT

In article <BrrIKr.9tp@acsu.buffalo.edu> v026ltr5@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Monty) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.204720.21637@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
>tcarsten@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Teresa C D Carstensen) writes...
>>>If it isn't feasible, it isn't an option, is it?
>>Let's be nit-picky, eh?  I hate my job and have the option of quitting.
>>However, I don't think it's feasable to quit when the job market is in such 
>>poor shape while I've got financial responsibilities that require the income
>>I've got.  That does not mean that quitting is *not* an option for me.  It
>>just means that it is a lousy one.    
>
>I have financial obligations, too. I also have no job when I graduate.
>The point is that you HAVE the job. You can use the experience in
>that job to get another job. I have neither a job nor experience.
>Thus, no options.

Oh, no.  You have the same option I did when I graduated - grab whatever piddly
minimum wage job you can get so you can cover at least some of your obligations
and pick up some work experience.  It sucks, but it sounds like that is the
best option you have at this point.  Now if you want to angst over only having
lousy options instead of none at all, I won't argue with you.

BTW, if you don't have any work experience, then is it safe to assume that you
didn't have to work your way through school?  If so, I am especially 
disappointed in you for giving Laura a hard time about her supposed lack of
problems.   
>
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>{                                            | Matthew P. Mason        }
>{          are 'friends' electric?           | SUNY Buffalo Law School }
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TC  
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tcarsten@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
From: danoc@earlybird.Eng.Sun.COM (Dan O'Connell [CONTRACTOR])
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: promises
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:52:29 GMT
Organization: Hoodoo Gurus
NNTP-Posting-Host: earlybird

(Jeff Lewis) writes:

>ACKKKK! how do you get over breaking a promise to someone
>when you Never had any intention of breaking it...it was
>just a result of your own confusion?    

Is an earnest apology out of the question?

Curiously,


Dano
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From: rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: alt.angst,alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Survey
Date: 23 Jul 92 02:16:25 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <ogorman.711841703@unix1.tcd.ie> ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie (Lucifuge) writes:


>
>>Deviation: Slightly conceited. Thinks of himself as a real hit with the
>>ladies. Once managed a five minute conversation with a girl without
>>once falling out of his seat.....
>
>Actually I've never had a conversation with a girl...I find they dribble
>too much...

well, obviously you should stop trying to have sex with the ladies at your
grandmother's intitution...

>>     You should have eased off on the Computer Geeks as well........                   
>Ok I'll revoke your contract as soon as I find you. You should really
>stop trying to impress people so hard. 

that's ok, ollie--he doesn't need your approval to be popular. nor does he state
that he needs to pay women to have sex with him. 

>Ollie

but of course, you believe that when it comes to sex, it's just like everything
else in life : you get what you pay for. 

(of course, some of us don't think you can put a price on a consentual, caring
relationship. but you wouldn't know what one is, so i am told.)

cheat your next 'date' out of a buck, and buy a clue.




--
		-just give me what for,
	rachel perkins =  rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu
      "Chastity..the most unnatural of all the sexual perversions...."
					-Aldous Huxley
From: blosser_cy@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: GET A LIFE! (wuz: EVERY TIME I READ THIS NEWSGROUP...)
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:17:34 EDT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

I want to apologize for my previous post. I would merely like to humbly state
my disappointment with 'alt.angst'. 

When I first requested that our system subscribe to this newsgroup I expected
an intellectual and rational (or non-rational and passionate) discussion...on
'angst' and it's place in the philosophy of Existentialism.

Hey, really...don't any of you read Nietzsche? You wanna talk about angst, go
to the library and check out anything by Nietzsche. Or Camus. Or Kierkegaard.

Instead...I find a bunch of sniveling dweebs wallowing in self-pity & moaning
to each other about their hang-ups and problems.

Get a life, will you?

True ANGST, my dear lily-livered, warm-blooded wimps is to stand alone on the
edge looking into the Abyss and feel the cold chill of nothingness that blows
from this Universe of Benign Indifference!!!!

Grit your teeth, and take life as it is! 99% of your life happens as a result
of what you *do* and you aren't going to accomplish anything crying about the
bad hand you've been dealt in the Poker Game of Life!!!!!!!!

Kristoph
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: smolin@physics.ucla.edu (Smolin)
Subject: TA angst (was Lotto angst)
Organization: UCLA Department of Physics
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 08:14:01 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.155748.9899@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins) writes:

>
>ObAngst: rememebr how i failed a student in last semester's class who was in
>the learning disabled program? not only did the program counselor call me up
>and harass me, but  the student's _mother_ called me to in turn beg, bully,
>and bitch me out..when i pointed out that this was in fact not elementary
>school, but university, and that the student should talk to me herself, the 
>irate motehr told me that she would have, but that she (the student) was 
>suicidal over failing my class....how lovely. "student kills self over astro
>101L grade--news at 11".
>
>needless to say, i went all self-righteous and told mommie dearest that giving 
>her darling daughter free points would be wrong, and that i would not do it...
>but i still can't believe that happened...she spent over an hour telling me 
>things like "you're a bright girl--you haven't had to face the adversity in
>getting a college education that my daughter has"..and i kept wanting to tell
>her about my incredibly sexist parents, but i didn't. i just told her no.
>
>bah.
>
>

Here at UCLA the professor always has the final say on grades.  The TA's
do all the grading of papers (usually) and more or less assign the grades
in a practical sense, but the professor gets to decide in the end.  This
gives the TA the easy out of just telling difficult studends or parents
that it isn't his or her decision and that they should go talk to the prof.
If the professor want to let someone pass who shouldn't that may or may not
be a good thing, but it certainly isn't the TA's problem.  Can't you do
something like this to get these people off your back?

John
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: boesch@cs.washington.edu (Eric Boesch)
Subject: broken tape player
Organization: People for the Socially Responsible Use of Brainwashing
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 23:41:34 GMT

I wanted to find out if I'd find satanic incantations on the tape in
fast-forward, but the tape player skips: "hunkahunkahunkahunka", over
and over, and never "hunka hunka burnin' love".

ObAngst:  me.  Him, actually.  What a dweeb.

To summarize:

me(him): psycho, stupid, etc.  Hates himself, and why not?  I hate him
too.  Self-obsessed.

me + psychoactive drugs (me):  cool guy, can't get enough of him.
Here, let me buy me a beer!  Still self-obsessed, but what the hell,
I'm a swell guy.  Need proof?  You're reading it.

Kill me.  Him, rather.  

By the way, you all don't really exist or anything, do you?  In any
case, if you do, don't worry if I'm boring you.  In half an hour this
program will be over, and maybe you'll find something on this channel
that you like better afterwards. 

Internal continuity?  What a funny thought.  There's no me.  There's
just a discontinuous function me(t).  The future?  I saw it once, this
morning, but then it went away.

The lyrics to Pachelbel's canon:
me mememe me me me me me me mememe me me me me 
me me mememememememememe memememememememememe me meme
me me me me mememe me me me me mememe mememememememe memememe memememememe
etc.

Pickup line:  "I like your hair.  By the way, I don't think I'm dating
any redheads right now."
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: kovarik@utkux1.utk.edu (SaintMeechTheChaste)
Subject: Re: Monogamy Angst (Was: Re: Damned if you do, damned if you don't...)
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 20:08:32 GMT

In article <47-PCNews-120beta@muli.saar.de> dombart@muli.saar.de (John Raoul Dombart) writes:
>
>P.S.: Ah yes, the solution for the monogamy problem. I've got none.
>      Maybe abolish monogamy.
>
>

While yer abolishing monogamy, please also abolish AIDS, or find some
100% certain protection from it.  Perhaps celibacy and monogamy are two
of the human race's most unnatural perversions, and even they offer no
guarantee after the wick has been dipped, but the further you go in the
other direction the more new sources of Angst you discover.  Then again,
some people may want to laugh at death in the face. "Yeehaw!  I laugh on
your lapel, Dr. Deeth!"

Sigh!!!! 
					Mitch

Ob-Natteringly-Negative-Nabob-Remark:  Think twice about developing 
very old rolls of film you find lying around.  What you find might remind 
you of times when things were good.  Or at least better.  And that's no fun
when things seem to be inexorably deteriorating around you.


	Dead souls rising
	Hear our crying
	To the jailers of the dying
	"You shall hang on judgement day"

		--Diamandia Galas, Judgement Day


Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: tcarsten@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Teresa C D Carstensen)
Subject: Re: Bible Angsti..Once apon a time...Male female RELATION*
Keywords: sam
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:49:24 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.221003.19519@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> zrubek@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ZRUBEK PETER F) writes:
>
>
>Sam,
>
>I offend someone everytime I say offencive things about something they
>do not find offensive.  I have so much a***t because no one thinks
>the Bible is a work of fiction.  I don't understand how a person can
>read the Bible and believe what they read is true.  

If you are very religious or offend easily, please hit the K key now.



It's very easy to believe if you already tend to be angst-filled, since it
does such a wonderful job of reinforcing angst.  It starts off by telling us
that God is going to hold everyone responsible for the actions of their
ancient ancestors, as if we had any control over what Adam and Eve did.  And
what they did strikes me as a relatively piddly crime.  It's not like they 
tortured and murdered someone.  If God didn't want them
to eat from the Tree of Knowledge, he shouldn't have put it where they could
reach it.  Really, the average parent of a 2-year-old has more sense than that.
Or he should have just made them so that they would be immune to its effects.
At any rate, after a few millenia, he decides that maybe, just maybe, he was
being a little too harsh.  But does he just say, you were naughty but I forgive
you?  Noooooo.   He makes Christ be tortured to death to atone for it so that 
we can all develop a nasty guilt complex over it.  So basically, according to
the Bible, God is a sadist.  If that doesn't cause angst, I don't know what 
would.

I've always wondered about the extreme difference in the way that God and Christ
treated people.  It reminds me of the good cop-bad cop scam that police use to
get suspects to cooperate.  The first one tries to intimidate the suspect, then
the second one is nice to him.  Wierd.     


>John A Cairns
>
>
>PS  I use the account Zrubek, Peter F, zrubek@ucsu.colorado.edu as a borrower
>because I have none of my own.
>Peter Zrubek has nothing to do with this.
>


TC  
-- 
tcarsten@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
From: ABienek@acorn.co.uk (Alex Bienek)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Lotto angst
Date: 28 Jul 92 11:34:10 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

In article <Jul.27.14.17.39.1992.9398@presto.ig.com> stuczyns@presto.ig.com (Martin Stuczynski) writes:

> What would all you angsters do if you won the lottery?? 
>
>-Marty
                                                          
I'd open the 'Get A Life' angst clinic and dating agency for 
angstaholics.
Facilites at the clinic would include desks, complete
with phones and 'puters, for those with useless degrees
to pretend that they had jobs.
There'd be seminars on social skills and 'How to present
a constructive argument having understood the others
point of view'.
Where would the clinic be based ? Arizona 

Alex.
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay)
Subject: Re: pop tarts ... Re: Making a fool of yourself (was Re: Attractiveness Angst etc
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:31:23 GMT

In article <19381@optima.cs.arizona.edu> menze@cs.arizona.edu (Ed Menze) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.225710.4360@linus.mitre.org>, sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay) writes:
>|>
>|>Microwave Pop-Tarts?!   No way!  It makes them all mushy!
>|
>|Not if you wrap them in a paper towel it doesn't.(Trust me on this
>|one. In this area I am an expert.). Wrap them in a paper towel thats
>|been doubled over and nuke 'em for a minute(no more 'cause then you
>|run into them bursting open and its napalm city when you pull them
>|out).  
>|Great Stuff!!!
>
>Am I the only person who prefers his/her Pop Tarts raw? 

Nope...I prefer some flavors raw, but others really need to be microwaved.

Taken from the CABTR FAQ on Pop-Tarts:

		Center for Advanced Breakfast Technology Research
                		Document POPTRT-002
Abstract: While it is possible and they certainly provide an acceptable
dining experience, the CABTR has found that certain flavors of PopTarts
are at their optimum when microwaved or otherwise heated. The table below
reflects these studies.

Flavor				Raw taste    Cooked taste 	
Strawberry			good	     good
Brown Sugar Cinnamon		good         excellent
Cherry 				Ok	     good
Blueberry			bleah 	     good
Apple	 		        barf        bleah
Chocolate			ok	     good
Apple-Cinnamon			ok	     excellent


Data: data is based on a multi-year study conducted in McLean, Va at the
Center For Advanced Breakfast Technology Research, Toaster Pastry Special
Projects Office. Test subjects were local computer operations staff.
Subjects were asked to sample one of the aformentioned flavors in both
a raw and microwaved condition and then asked to report the taste of 
each on a scale of barf to excellent. 

---Steve
-- 
Stephen Okay  sokay@mitre.org
"Welcome to the Politically Correct States of America. Please turn your mind
in to the nearest oppressed minority pressure group. It will be returned to
you once we've decided what you can think"
From: blosser_cy@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Hey, Dave! Dave Hinz! 
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:17:53 EDT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

> It's amazing how one's private e-mail gets posted in public like this.

> The point of my message, which you so obviously missed, is that if you are
> going to be a pissy, sarcastic twit, I would guess that most people here 
> don't want to hear about it. Degrading the readers of a newsgroup is probably
> not the best way to introduce yourself and endear yourself to them.

I'm sorry, but I don't think highly of them either. So far they haven't really
endeared themselves to me, either.

> Your personal attacks are not worth answering, even if I _DID_ have the
> time.

Oh, you mean that reference to the illicit affair between you & your neighbor's
dog? So you admit it's true?
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 00:41:53 EDT
From: <LXS117@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.angst
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From: jlewis@astro.as.arizona.edu (Jeff Lewis)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: promises
Date: 25 Jul 92 06:57:06 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

ACKKKK! how do you get over breaking a promise to someone
when you Never had any intention of breaking it...it was
just a result of your own confusion?    

life is a bitch...then your die...again and again and again
From: boesch@cs.washington.edu (Eric Boesch)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Male-female relationships explained
Date: 25 Jul 92 02:59:18 GMT
Organization: Dr. Schnitzel's Museum of Geeks, Freaks, and Oddities

zrubek@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ZRUBEK PETER F) writes:
>To call you a sexist I am 
>John A Cairns
>cairnsj@ucsu.colorado.edu

Well, John/Peter, you may enjoy being two people in the same body.
But I think it's pretty damn rude for you to take Keith Counsell and
me and splice us together without permission.

I appreciate that you let me keep the head.  Certainly, between Keith
and me, I got the better half of the deal.  But I'm used to my
original body and I want it back.  I spent thousands of hours in the
gym, all for nothing apparently.  Do you think I *liked* having to
tell Mr. Verhoeven that I couldn't star in Commando II because I had
been turned into a scientific marvel?

I might add that Mr. Counsell's body has suffered through this as
well.  Do I have to mention the painful rehab that I had to go through
which medical insurance refused to pay for?  Do I have to mention the
unspeakable things that sex-crazed women will do to a living body when
they know that its head is too far away to identify them?  If Mr.
Counsell didn't already have so much experience at thinking with his
dick, we'd probably be *completely* dead by now.

I might add that it's completely unethical to perform experimental
surgery on a patient without his consent.  Oh, you may become a
scientific celebrity.  But if you had to live with yourself, instead
of with half of someone else, you might find it very difficult.

Your twisted attempt to turn everyone into bizarre half-organisms like
yourself will never work.  And let me add that, no matter what else
you do to Perry, you can never make her love you.

-- emb.  Pickup line: "Hi, I'm the Head Detective.  Ever had sex with
a TV star?"
From: blosser_cy@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: CREDO, by Stephen Crane (you want angst, dammit--THIS is angst!)
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:32:24 EDT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

I CANNOT FIND MY WAY: THERE IS NO STAR
IN ALL THE SHROUDED HEAVENS ANYWHERE;
AND THERE IS NOT A WHISPER IN THE AIR
OF ANY LIVING VOICE BUT ONE SO FAR
THAT I CAN HEAR IT ONLY AS A BAR
OF LOST, IMPERIAL MUSIC, PLAYED WHEN FAIR
AND ANGEL FINGERS WOVE, AND UNAWARE
DEAD LEAVES TO GARLANDS WHERE NO ROSES ARE.

NO, THERE IS NOT A GLIMMER, NOR A CALL,
FOR ONE THAT WELCOMES, WELCOMES WHEN HE FEARS,
THE BLACK AND AWFUL CHAOS OF THE NIGHT;
FOR THROUGH IT ALL--ABOVE, BEYOND IT ALL--
I KNOW THE FAR SENT MESSAGE OF THE YEARS,
I FEEL THE COMING GLORY OF THE LIGHT.

--Credo, by Stephen Crane
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: bruceg@access.digex.com (Bruce Garrett)
Subject: Re: The Color of Angst
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 18:43:04 GMT

 
        > What is the color of angst?
 
 
        It looks to me like it's a kind of Slate Grey.  Relentlessly
uniform in tone like the sky on a drizzly November afternoon when
you're out aimlessly walking around the neighborhood because you don't
want to stay in the house with your thoughts.
 
 
-Bruce Garrett
 
 

Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: hinz@bonfire (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987)
Subject: Re: Lotto angst
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 07:32:13 GMT

rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins) writes:

: ...she spent over an hour telling me 
: things like "you're a bright girl--you haven't had to face the adversity in
: getting a college education that my daughter has"..and i kept wanting to tell
: her about my incredibly sexist parents, but i didn't. i just told her no.
: 
: bah.
: 

This has always been a major bitch of mine.  People assume that students who
are exceptionally intelligent can work it out on their own, and don't need
help...."He's smart, he can keep himself occupied" type of stuff.  I wonder
how much of my personal isolationism during school was due to a combination of
being bored stiff by the teachers saying the same thing OVER AND OVER AND OVER,
and the resentment that other students had towards me and the other  'curve
wreckers'.  

To assume that 'intelligent' people have less angst than someone else is
as ludicrous as saying someone doesn't have valid angst because they have
a job, and so on.  

ObAngst:  That some of my less understanding co-workers might see my sensitive,
caring side here and make my life a living hell, or at least try to.  To hell
with 'em, I say!  But, do I believe it??????  AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaargh.

--

Dave Hinz  -  Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.  Obviously.
hinz@picard.med.ge.com