HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ryerson.schwark)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Gay martial artists (was Re: aikido!)
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:40:50 GMT
Organization: UNIX System Laboratories, Summit, NJ

In article <1992Jul31.174004.13243@gordian.com> mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas) writes:
>
>  Well at first I though grandmama was just giving one of her
>children a peck on the forehead for goodnight, but the peck
>missed and landed right down the poor child's throat. It was
>awful, it jammed and it took what seemed hours to get back
>apart.
>  I'm sure grandmama is doing penance as we speak for any
>wicked thoughts that may have come to mind. 


Why what *HORRIBLY* *WICKED* *DIRTY* thoughts you all have!  The poor
child was going faint and out of breath, and out of grandmotherly
concern I thought I should share some of my breath with the child,
who as you no doubt noticed seemed much better afterwards.  Wicked
thoughts indeed!  You, child, are in need of stern discipline.

Grandmama KKruella
ry@usl.com
From: joe@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Lost Language of Cranes question
Date: 28 Jul 92 11:19:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Jul28.111955.19065
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Jul28.060638.23993@reed.edu> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>I've watched the Lost Language of Cranes twice now, and I really liked
>it. I experienced a feeling of gayspace, a thing I'm only now getting
>used, and never before on television! I sat there watching this
>soap-opera like show for 90 minutes, only the characters' lives were
>actually relevant to me. It seemed so natural that I only realized
>later that the event was unusual.
>
>There's one niggling little thing that's getting to me, though. What
>do the various language vignettes have to do with the story of the
>family?

In the book, the only function I could see was to (1) give the book an
interesting name a la "The Crying of Lot 49" and (2) provide a vacuous
metaphor in an otherwise bathetic and overly-turgid melodrama.

I'm no great fan.
-- 
US Jojo; damp, slighly soiled, but tasty nonetheless.
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From: cedman@714-725-3165.nts.uci.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Gayspace
Newsgroups: soc.motss,talk.politics.misc,alt.individualism,alt.activism
Reply-To: cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman)
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:03:29 GMT

adolphson writes
> So, anyway, in today's LA Times is a little article that my
> city council (the West Hollywood City Council) last week
> approved a monument commemorating last fall's street
> protests against California governor Pete Wilson's
> veto of AB 101 (a gay-rights bill).  I took part in most of
> the street protests, and I am *very* glad to see that the
> city council stood up to some homophobic resistance --
> yes, even West Hollywood has its phobes.  They, the
> phobes, complained that the city "places too much
> emphasis on gay and lesbian issues".  I say a big "fuck you"
> to them.  The city places emphasis on gay and lesbian
> issues because we are the single largest voting block in
> the city.  And if the phobes don't like it, they're welcome
> to move to a city 35% of whose residents are not gay.  I'm
> sure they'd be able to find such cities. 

Just out of curiosity, you might be able to answer my question.

Consider a hypothetical city 35% of the population of which oppose abortion  
want to see it banned. Would you consider it proper and appropriate use of the  
taxpayers funds of that city if it decided to build a monument to Operation  
Rescue protests at a local abortion clinic ? Also, would you consider it  
appropriate and tolerant if any citizen of that city told anybody else who  
criticized that monument "Fuck you !" and "Move somewhere else if you don't  
like it here !" ?

	Carl Edman
From: bfbear@penn.Gwinnett.COM (Penn Collins)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: I HAVE THREADING
Date: 24 Jul 92 00:12:04 GMT

eric.hunt@matrix.sbs.com (Eric Hunt) writes:
> 
> Do you read soc.motss through Waffle directly, or via QWKs?

q? I am reading thru waffle- anyone know of a way/system (using waffle)
to kill entire threads? (no Pern jokes please...)
        it would be nice....(soc.motss can be a tad formidable after a long
        day of work...)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mls@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (mike.siemon)
Subject: Re: Don't write NAMBLA today
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 03:23:34 GMT
Summary: Lewis Carroll

In article <1992Jul19.033020.13127@panix.com>, roy@panix.com (Roy Radow) writes:

> But then again Horatio Alger (one time reverend & later author and 
> protector of newsboys) and Lewis Carroll (aka Rev. Charles Dodgson)
> weren't members either, except perhaps in an honorary sense.

umm, the Rev. Mr. Dodgson *loathed* little boys (not to mention their
adolescent selves.)  His was a strictly heterosexual fixation.
-- 
Michael L. Siemon		We must know the truth, and we must
				love the truth we know, and we must
mls@usl.com			act according to the measure of our love.
standard disclaimer	  				-- Thomas Merton
From: thaaang@odin.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: the darkness in my heart
Date: 21 Jul 92 10:13:08 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

Perfection. Thank you.

--
John Dorrance    ** Disco Diva y Flamenco Chico **    thaaang@odin.unomaha.edu

		I always thought of you as my brick wall
		   Built like an angel, six feet tall.
Newsgroups: soc.motss,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.tv.uk,rec.arts.tv.soaps,soc.bi,alt.politics.homosexuality
From: smargari@nmsu.edu (Susan Margarit)
Subject: Re: Do You Remember any Gay/Lesbian Characters on TV Series?
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 04:45:25 GMT

   aj@CS.ORST.EDU (AJ) writes:

   >Roseanne's boss on "Roseanne" was gay (played by ....what was his name???
   >Martin Moll maybe?).

   Although I haven't watched too much of "Roseanne" I believe you're talking
   about Martin Mull.  I also believe that Michael Des Barres appeared as
   Mull's lover.

   Beth Groce
   peg1@Ra.MsState.Edu

I wasn't going to post to this because I couldn't think of many
characters myself, but no one has mentioned "Doctor, Doctor" from CBS.
Matt Frewer played the main (title?) character.  His gay brother (I don't
know the actor's name) was on from time to time.  Excellent, very
funny show.

Susan.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas)
Subject: Re: Gaynet, Mailing Lists, etc. (Was: Re: Phobe Alert: America)
Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:06:05 GMT

In article <15501@star.cs.vu.nl>, fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!) writes:
> >In article <1992Jul17.212451.28499@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
> >>>If you're interested in lesbian discussion, subscribe to the "sappho"
> >>>list.
> >>Unless I am mistaken, the sappho list is woman-only space.
> 
> So what? Set up an unknown account and ask to subscribe. Maybe you can't get
> away with posting - is a life-long conditioning with the male point of view
> maskable? Is that conditioning the problem? Are male->female TS's allowed to 
> post? - but certainly with reading.
> 
> Or are you required to have a blood-test done by a physician under oath?

  I suppose that you could probably get away with it, but this seems
to be a rather despicable transgression of honor. If they don't want
males there, their wishes should be honored.
-- 

		Michael Thomas	(mike@gordian.com)
	"I don't think Bambi Eyes will get you that flame thrower..."  
		-- Hobbes to Calvin
		USnail: 20361 Irvine Ave Santa Ana Heights, Ca,	92707-5637
		PaBell: (714) 850-0205 (714) 850-0533 (fax)
From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: those problem hets
Date: 28 Jul 92 05:50:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Jul28.055056.23668
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <BryKu9.BnJ@news.cso.uiuc.edu> lmh44500@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Wildfire) writes:
>As one of the (I sincerely hope) Clued Straights
....
>I firmly believe that the "cause" of homosexuality is similar to that
>of schizophrenia

ARGH.

I don't think the sneer quotes saved this one.
-- 
                __
nelson@reed.edu \/                                            Love under will
From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: There was this sign in the window...
Date: 22 Jul 92 00:42:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Jul22.004230.26173
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1992Jul21.212842.5754@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>I think the notion that these morons got propositioned by anyone at
>the march is as likely as Frank Rizzo being reincarnated as a drag
>queen.

Steve, but do you know anything about the specific case?

I ask, because your dismissal of their claims of being sexually
harassed sounds an *awful* lot like the way women's claims of being
sexually harassed or raped are frequently ignored.

Do you know something beyond the general description of the situation
that was given?
-- 
                __
nelson@reed.edu \/                                    D is for lots of things
                __
nelson@reed.edu \/                                    D is for lots of things
From: urso@spdcc.com (Stephen Chappell)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: British Pronounciation
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:50:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Jul21.215057.7148
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

Ah... to have been born in the '60's.  
 
Two actual names I ran into through a friend:
Lemonjello (le-*MON*-JEL-lo) and
Orangejello (or-*AN*-JEL-lo)

[] Urso
    (OOR*-so)  *rolled "r" <-- just for the record,      
                              even if I've come to pronounce it "ER-so"
                              like everyone else

-- 
[] Stephen Chappell (a.k.a. "Urso")
[] urso@ursa-major.spdcc.com
[] 15 Walker Street, Powder House Square   
[] Somerville, MA 02144-1622, USA
From: bfbear@penn.Gwinnett.COM (Penn Collins)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Homophobia at PDC? (the distributor of the Advocate)
Date: 18 Jul 92 19:22:00 GMT

there are rumors floating about alleged homophobia within PDC (a division of
LPI- the publisher of The Advocate). I am very concerned about this-
I keep hearing about a proposecd boycott of The Advocate, but nothing definite.
I do know a gay man was recently "let go" by his straight boss.
can anyone elaborate on this?
this sounds scary.....
Newsgroups: soc.motss,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.tv.uk,rec.arts.tv.soaps,soc.bi,alt.politics.homosexuality
From: rasmussenc@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu
Subject: Re: Do You Remember any Gay/Lesbian Characters on TV Series?
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:11:53 GMT


Several years ago on Dynasty, Steven had a boyfriend.... (The gay friend 
was played by Bill Campbell - He was the guy who recently starred in the 
Rocketteer (sp?) released by Disney last year....)

-Chris R
Xref: sparky soc.motss:33018 soc.bi:9815
From: drp@dosbears.UUCP (David R. Preston)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,soc.bi
Subject: Re: On sex with men
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:43:40 GMT
Reply-To: drp@dosbears.uucp
Organization: DosBears

In article <1992Jul24.152026.24551@spdcc.com> joe@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis) writes:
>
>I was thinking about the seemingly months ago conversation on the
>differences between sex with a man who is bisexual and a man who is
>homosexual...
>I'm just wondering if others have mused upon their lovers and had some
>of the same feelings about pleasure response...

I think maybe you're not meeting, or not attracting, relaxed laid-back
gay men. We're out here. :-)

--
         David R. Preston   drp@dosbears.uucp dosbears@netcom.com
              Information gladly given but safety requires
               the avoidance of unnecessary conversation.
            D. R. Preston 584 Castro St. #614 SF CA 94114 USA
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: hwt@bwdlh490.BNR.CA (Henry Troup)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: the b-word
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:17:06 GMT
Reply-To: Henry.Troup@BNR.CA
Followup-To: think.first,please
Distribution: world
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada

In article <1992Jul13.161654.14388@osf.org>, coren@osf.org (Robert
Coren) writes:
|>Well, in fairness, although it has led to a proliferation of silly
|>"{whatever} On Board" signs, I'm told that the original reason for

Of which my favorite was the handmade "Dumb Sign in Window" sign.  

ObMotss: Reporting of the top-free rallies in various parts of Canada
last weekend stressed the involvement of the gay and lesbian community. 
More news is likely where it almost belongs, like rec.nude.
                          
  Henry Troup - HWT@BNR.CA (Canada) - BNR owns but does not share my opinions
		      "Every absurdity has it's defender"
From: sandman@buit52.bu.edu (Dominick M. Galang)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Vacationing in Montreal
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:12:16 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Boston University Information Technology Boston, MA USA

Hi,

I'm going to be vacationing with my SO in Montreal in late September.
If you have any suggestions of what to see and where to go I would
appreciate it.  Also, I'm interested in any information on cozy
bed-n-breakfasts or small hotels that you might have had a good
experience with.

Please send me email rather than posting.  There are currently 7000+
articles in soc.motss for me to go through already.  If there's enough
response, I'll post my findings.

Thanks!


--Dominick
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
Subject: Disco Diva cum Proto-cub... :-)
Organization: insert anything here
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 03:51:29 GMT

thaaang@odin.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:
>Anyway, I *finally* *found* a code that works for me! I mean, my bear
>code's pretty barren: 'B0 f t- c s(v) q(v)'. Yawn. But my Smurf code!
>'S7/9 g+(+) l(+) y++ z+ n- o(+) a++? j+'! Holy hooters, that's *impress-
>ive*! It'll confuse 'n' mystify *lots* of people! I'll be viewed as a
>mystery! Yay!

	Actually it was established at the post-con brunch that
John is a B0.25....  :-)  At this rate assuming constant bearceleration
he should rival ZZ Top in um....  24 years...  Which would be about right.

Smooches,
BBC
Newsgroups: soc.motss,talk.politics.misc,alt.individualism,alt.activism
From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Subject: Re: On Banning Private Discrimination
Originator: glp@merlin
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:57:09 GMT


In article <l78ueoINNt4l@spim.mips.com>, mpolen@gelato.mips.com (Michael Polen) writes:
|> Greg Parkinson) writes:
|> |> 
|> |> It's much more likely that I can understand your life than you
|> |> can understand mine.  First of all, heterosexuals are in full
|> |> display just about everywhere we look - on television, film,
|> |> on the street.  We are forced to notice, to watch, to be aware
|> |> of how you do things.  Secondly, many of us *lived* your life
|> |> in many ways.  I grew up a white upper-middle-class male.  I had
|> |> girlfriends.  I wasn't an identifiable "fag".  I had all the
|> |> assumed benefits that go along with that role.  And then I came
|> |> out, and I found that I could be fired, be kicked out of where
|> |> I lived, be attacked and beaten, and abandoned by people I thought
|> |> were my friends.  You have *no* *idea* what making that transition
|> |> is like. 
|> |>
|> So what.  This is the same argument that blacks use that whites cannot
|> understand what it is liked to be black.  Sure it is true.  But just
|> because I can't know what it is like to be gay, doesn't mean I can't 
|> support your cause.  If this were extended to blacks and no whites
|> had supported their cause, they would be even worse off that they
|> are today.


Huh?  

-- 
Greg Parkinson                  Phone: 212-657-7814  Fax: 212-825-8607
Citibank,111 Wall Street        E-Mail: glp@fig.citib.com
New York, New York  10043
The opinions expressed are my own and not those of the big 'ol bank.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: amz@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (Arnold M Zwicky)
Subject: resonances
Followup-To: soc.motss
Summary: the outsider's stance
Keywords: gay, deaf
Organization: outil, lsa, osu, stanford,...
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 00:12:11 GMT

a small extract from an article by richard wolkomir in a recent
_smithsonian magazine_, on the sign languages of the deaf [quite
a good article, i think].  i have put the resonant sentences into
*REALLY* *BIG* *CAPS*...

  Kannapell has tried to see oralism [the view that deaf children
  should be taught to speak and lip-read, as much as that is possible,
  to the exclusion of signing] from the viewpoint of hearing parents
  of deaf children.  "THEY'LL DO ANYTHING TO MAKE THEIR CHILD LIKE
  THEMSELVES," she signs.  "But, from a deaf adult's perspective, I
  want *them* to learn signs, to communicate with their child."

  In the 1970s, a new federal law mandated "mainstreaming."  "That
  law was good for parents, because they could keep children home
  instead of sending them off to special boarding schools, but many
  public schools didn't know what to do with deaf kids," signs
  Kannapell.  "MANY OF THESE CHILDREN THINK THEY'RE THE ONLY DEAF
  KIDS IN THE WORLD."

yes, we *have* heard these ideas before.

(periodically i post about parallels between the experiences
and positions of gay people, women, ethnic minorities, the
deaf, etc.  in doing this i am *not* saying "it's all the same
thing".  it's not all the same thing; there are extraordinary,
and very important, differences in the textures of these different
lives.  but there also are parallels, and some of these arise
from similarities in the situations we find ourselves in.  so
listen to the resonances...)

arnold




Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Subject: Re: Fashion Plate
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:05:19 GMT

In article <asuccop.712002112@milton> asuccop@milton.u.washington.edu (Annemarie Succop) writes:
>
>	xaviera hollender calls your house?


Chez Jojo attracts the best!


FWA
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: POMO AFRO HOMOS in Los Angeles July 31 Friday
From: hsu@sp24.csrd.uiuc.edu (William Tsun-Yuk Hsu)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 19:54:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UIUC Center for Supercomputing Research and Development

Having seen them in Chicago in June, all I can say is, don't miss them.

Bill

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From: neil@ccl.umist.ac.uk (Neil P.G.)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.tv.uk,rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Do You Remember any Gay/Lesbian Characters on TV Series?
Date: 27 Jul 92 10:56:14 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In <19024@fritz.filenet.com> ung@felix.filenet.com (Bill Ung) writes:

>ABC's TV Soap Opera "Dynasty" had a gay character.  Steven/Stephen Carrington,
>son of multi-millionare (billionare?) Blake Carrington was gay.  He even
>had a gay lover whom Blake accidentally killed.  I never watched the show
>in any great detail.  I know the actor who originally played Steve Carrington
>changed after the first season (possibly during the first season), and I
>don't know if his sexual preference faded into the background in later
>seasons.

I can't remember that much about how he came across in the later
episodes, but it was quite noticeable when they brought back the
original actor in the "reunion" mini-series of Dynasty.
--
Neil Perret-Green    | __ |    neil@ccl.umist.ac.uk
_____________________| \/ |________________________
Linguistics and the logician:
"This tautology is a tautology." "This tautology is not a paradox."
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Subject: Re: RFD: Still in print?
Organization: QueerNet
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 23:28:35 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.214009.27549@tc.cornell.edu> shore@tc.cornell.edu writes:
>I thought RFD was for rural gay men?

One interpretation of the acronym is "Radical Faerie Digest."
-- 
ROGER B.A. KLORESE                                              +1 415 ALL-ARFF
rogerk@unpc.QueerNet.ORG                 {ames,decwrl,pyramid}!mips!unpc!rogerk
"Normal is not something to aspire to, it's something to get away from."
                                                                   -- J. Foster
From: booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: G/L Youth Suicide
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:14:16 GMT
Organization: Autodesk, Inc., Sausalito, CA

In article <1992Jul21.062731.11372@unlinfo.unl.edu> cbe@unlinfo.unl.edu (cbe) writes:
>The problem of adult GLBs counseling and interacting with queer teens 
>has been mentioned because of being open to charges of recruiting.
>A not deeply considered but nevertheless potentially viable
>solution: Lesbian and Bi females counsel queer males and Adult Queer 
>and Bi males counsel lesbians and Bi females.  Not ideal, but hey, 
>maybe it will help all GLB folks develop closer ties in time.


Having straight women counsel lesbian girls and straight men counsel
gay boys in an objective, compassionate and non-judgemental matter
might make such accusations moot. Any guidance counselor or other
youth worker worth her/his salt should be able to handle kids dealing
with gender confusion without imposing the group norm on the kid.
(Unless the kid gets off on pulling the heads off housepets :-))

ER
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: the b-word
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:30:31 GMT
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison


In article <1992Jul22.131540.19509@hemlock.cray.com>
steven@cray.com (Steven Levine) writes:

Steven provides a vey useful addition to the discussion.
The thoughts that struck me most strongly relate to the
empowerment *we* get from such a epithet:

>The best part is that it doesn't matter at all if we ever
>call anyone a "breeder." I, for one, can't imagine a
>situation where I would.  But there the word is, ready to
>provide a focus for our anger.

And this is avery important part: we don't actually have to
*use* the term to derive a constructive effect from it.  Ad
Arnold points out, using it *against* "them" probably
doesn't do much (and you can see how upset some people get),
but it can do lots *for us*.

>Mara again:

>>But I am interested in the
>>question of whether the insult reaches its target.

>The empowerment comes from not caring whether it does or not.

Great point!

-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.motss,talk.politics.misc,alt.individualism,alt.activism
From: rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Subject: Re: On Banning Private Discrimination
Organization: QueerNet
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 23:08:52 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.203335.28373@decvax.dec.com> walsh@starbd.enet.dec.com (Thomas Walsh) writes:
>Why is it that most white heterosexual males have no power whatsoever?

No?  You have the power to walk down the street behind another white
heterosexual male and not be presumed a mugger, for one.  You have the
power to get a job interview, or a home, for another.  You have the power
to be free of power-laden stereotypes about everything from your honesty
to the size of your dick, for another.
-- 
ROGER B.A. KLORESE                                              +1 415 ALL-ARFF
rogerk@unpc.QueerNet.ORG                 {ames,decwrl,pyramid}!mips!unpc!rogerk
"Normal is not something to aspire to, it's something to get away from."
                                                                   -- J. Foster
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