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From: ttw@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (thomas.t.wetmore..iv)
Subject: Re: Just Starting...
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:44:19 GMT

As someone who has also been characterized as hard-edged and worse, I
just wanted to come to Fred's defense.  I didn't get the impression
that he was putting anybody down, just putting forth a contrasting
set of salient opinions.  IMHO both posts were excellent.  (Maybe we
hard-edged types just can't recognize it; anybody want to suggest
some sensitivity training exercises?).

This has got to be the kindest, gentlest group going.  It's always a
pleasure to sail in its calm clear waters!

Tom Wetmore, crusty old fart
ttw@petrel.att.com
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From: dickson@iris.psu.edu (Scott Dickson)
Subject: DAR and NARA open over Thanksgiving?
Organization: Penn State Center for Academic Computing
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 14:56:40 GMT

Does anyone know if the DAR library and the National Archives in DC
are going to be open on the 25th and 27th of November?  I'm going to 
DC for Thanksgiving and was hoping to get some research in.

--SCott

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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      McAloney family
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Hi,

Any assitance anyone can offer on the following will be greatly appreciated.

The Australian branch of the McAloney family - granddaughters and ggrandchildren
of Albert McAloney born in Belfast in 1891 or thereabouts and died 1947 - are
seeking to make contact with any living relatives - descendants of his brothers
and sisters that are believed to have emigrated to the US from Belfast
circa 1908 - 1911.

Albert McAloney jumped ship in Australia in 1911, intending to make his way
to join his family in the US, but married my grandmother, Sarah Wallis (nee
Meakin) instead. My mother, Margaret Isobel (1915 - 1964), was the only issue
of that marriage.

The last known contact with the family was in May 1945 with Mrs. J. Hansen,
146-24 Kalmia Avenue, Flushing L4. New York. Before her death my mother told
me that this person was her aunt who was widowed and had no children.

My sisters and I have searched records available here without coming up with
a single person with that surname. Friends in the States have checked their
local phonebooks and not been able to find any as well. I despair that my
American cousins may have shortened it to Maloney, but I am hoping not.

Albert is supposed to have come from a large family, who all emigrated to the
States including his mother, Elizabeth, the disowned youngest daughter of
Lord Rose - a High Court Judge in London.

Since this contains our total knowledge of my grandfather's family, any
information/verification of any part of this story would be very helpful.

Carolyn Baird
lncjb@wombat.newcastle.edu.au
From: lincoln@rand.org (Tom Lincoln)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: William Bradford's Daughter, Mercy
Date: 8 Nov 92 02:48:15 GMT
Organization: RAND Corporation.

In article <1992Nov6.172552.3490@nosc.mil> barrus@cod.nosc.mil writes:
>
>Does anyone have the descendancy of William Bradford's daughter, Mercy,
who married Benjamin or Joseph Vermages or Vermayes?  Did he have anymore
daughters?


Melvyl does.... (I think)

1.
Author: Hall, Ruth Gardiner.
Title:  Descendants of Governor William Bradford ... [Ann Arbor, Mich.]
Edwards brothers, 1951-
Description:    1 v. 645 p. illus., ports. 23 cm.

Subjects:       Bradford family (William Bradford, 1588-1657)

Call numbers:   CSL     Sutro   CS 71 B8 1951a

2.
Author: Purple, Samuel S. (Samuel Smith), 1822-1900.
Title:  Bradford family. Genealogical memorials of William Bradford, the
printer. By Samuel S. Purple. New York, Priv. print., 1873.
Description:    8 p. front. (facsims.) 28 cm.

Notes:  "Edition, fifty copies, from the New York genealogical and
biographical record; with additions. no. 33."

Subjects:       Bradford family (William Bradford, 1663-1752)

Call numbers:   UCB     LibSchLib Z232.B64 P8
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From: kattke@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (g.w.kattke)
Subject: Nova Scotia newspapers?
Organization: AT&T
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 06:06:31 GMT
Keywords: Amherst

A friend needs an obituary from Amherst, Nova Scotia,
about 1910. Does anyone know what newspapers might be
available, and where they might currently be found?

Many thanks
Jerry Kattke
kattke@ihlpl.att.com
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From:         nhartman@VAX1.BEMIDJI.MSUS.EDU
Subject:      LDS FHC in England?
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I would like to know if there is an LDS FHC in the London area
which has the Social Security Death Index available.  Or,
if there is one anywhere else in England.

If possilbe I would like to know the street location and hours
open.  I will pass this information via snail mail to an
organization in England which needs access to the Social
Security Index.

Thanks.

Nancy Hartman, 9800 Hensel Drive NE, Bemidji, MN  56601

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From: barrus@cod.nosc.mil
Subject: William Bradford's Daughter, Mercy
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:25:52 GMT


Does anyone have the descendancy of William Bradford's daughter, Mercy, who married Benjamin or Joseph Vermages or Vermayes?  Did he have anymore daughters?

Thanks

Joe (barrus@cod.nosc.mil)
From: 00066033@YSUB.YSU.EDU (Jerry tomko)
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Date: 5 Nov 92 22:24:12 GMT
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I asked to be unsubscribed, but am not sure which account I subscribed
with since I have two account being fowarded to this one.

You may want to try unsubscribing...

am478@cleveland.freenet.edu
ab917@yfn.ysu.edu   or
00066033@ysub.ysu.edu
From: DL@UCSFVM.BITNET (David Lowndes)
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Subject: SSA revisited
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:31:14 GMT
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The Social Security application form I obtained which was completed by
my wife's grandmother showed the village in Lithuania where she was
born, a place so small we haven't yet found it on a map.  The British
birthplaces of my grandparents were also on their applications.

I got excellent results a year or so ago requesting copies of SS-5 forms
from the Social Security Administration by letter addressed to the
Freedom of Information Act Officer.  I paid $7 each and got them in
about four to six weeks.
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
A few people mentioned that they found birthplaces on SS application forms.
I was wondering if these were US places or if foreign places were noted by
town also. (eg. Tarnow, Poland or Poland)  A country name won't be much help.
Thanks.  I haven't tried this yet.

Elizabeth Siwek
emsiwek@iastate.edu
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Reply-To:     "Adele E. Corbin" <usr12195@TSO.UC.EDU>
From:         "Adele E. Corbin" <usr12195@TSO.UC.EDU>
Subject:      Radabaugh/Bashore
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Does anyone know of a connection between the Radabaugh and Bashore families in
Pa. or Ohio? Adele.
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From: jeromema@cc.uvcc.edu
Subject: Re: Military pensions
Organization: Utah Valley Community College
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:59:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.194749.28910@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, aat@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (anthony.a.triolo) writes:
> Were there any restrictions? Did this apply to both enlistees
> and draftees? Did this apply to non-commissioned personnel as
> well as officers? 
> 
> What were the rules governing military pensions?
> 
Virtually any soldier who served in the military during the 19th century could
apply for a pension, but didn't automatically make them eligible.  After the
Civil War the one restriction was that the soldier had to have served for 90
days of more, which was later changed to 30 days.  You also had to have been
properly discharged and not considered a deserter.  Even soldiers, widows,
minors, guardians, who applied and were subsequently denied would have
generated documents, sometimes of good genealogical importance.

I have a distant relative-in-law of mine applied after her husband's, but
because he died before fulfilling the proper number of days service was denied
a pension for a number of years. Yet she kept applying, or later had others
apply for her in her behalf.  the many letters and affidavits describe a woman
who was destitute, homeless, requiring neighbors to take turns in caring for
her and housing her in their homes for short periods of time, especially after
having fallen in the street from illness and weakness brought on by her mode of
living.

I have a relative who was in a regiment for 1 month during 1864 and he was
able to get a pension.  He was never even sent to his regiment before being
discharged on a surgeon's certificate.

I hope this helps...
Marc D. Jerome

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Subject:      Re: NEHGS
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> Subject:    NEHGS

> Does anyone out there know the hours for the New England Historic
> Genealogical Soc Library in Boston (newbury St)?  Will they close early on
> Veterans Day (11Nov)? Are they open on Sundays?
> Thanks, Steven Holloway

They are closed altogether on Veterans day and they're never open
on Sundays.  Regular hours are Tues., Fri., Sat. 9-5 and Wed., Thurs.
9-9.  If there's a Monday holiday they are closed the previous Sat.


 Joel Fowler (Joel@delphinus.lib.umb.edu)
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From: eggertj@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41)
Subject: Re: Mac PAF version?
Reply-To: eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab - Group 41
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:01:37

In article <1992Nov11.203830.9914@cs.wisc.edu> dko@cs.wisc.edu (David Olsen) writes:
>   In article <1689CCFDC.SYSDAVE@ukcc.uky.edu>, SYSDAVE@ukcc.uky.edu (Dave Elbon) writes:
>   |> What is the current version of PAF for the Mac?  I've had mine for
>   |> two or three years and was wondering if there have been any updates.
>   |> Mine is 2.1.
>
>   I bought mine a few weeks ago.  The current version is still 2.1.
>   (Note that the current version for PAF on a PC is 2.2.)

My copy of PAF claims to be release 2.11.  I've had it for a while
now.
=Jim
--
=Jim  eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert)
From: JGJEWE01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU (Jeffrey G. Jewell)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: New Jersey Census
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:43:44 GMT
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Investigator
PHONE: 502 588-7290     FAX: 502 588-7719

I recently located an obituary (dated 1928) which listed as relatives a Pat
(Patrick?) SHANNON and a Mrs. Owen HEALEY (nee SHANNON) of Elizabeth, New
Jersey. Their birth dates would be around 1850 to 1870 and they are Irish.

I was wondering if someone with access to New Jersey records could locate
anything (i.e. New Jersey death index, 1910 or 1920 census index, cemetery,
ANYTHING?) on these two individuals and advise. There are not too many
New Jersey records available locally.

Any and all assistance appreciated....

Jeffrey G. Jewell      BITNET:   JGJEWE01@ULKYVM
Public Safety          INTERNET: JGJEWE01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU
Univ. of Louisville    GEnie:    J.JEWELL6
Louisville, Ky. 40292
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From: jdboer@sol.UVic.CA (Johan deBoer)
Subject: Re: Chicago is in COOK county....
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, B.C. CANADA
Distribution: soc.roots
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 04:42:07 GMT

Hi,
Pfew, I wish all my questions would get such a response.
But I do know now that Chicago is in Cook county!!
Thanks everyone.
(My atlas gor misplaced in our recent move, haven't found it back yet)

Johan.

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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 06:51:25 -0600
Reply-To:     Melicent Tlucek Bryarly <melicent@tenet.edu>
From:         Melicent Tlucek Bryarly <melicent@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      CZECH WORD
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Sorry, I accidently deleted the message concerning the Czech word that
needs translation....I have Czech dictionary and can speak a little--but
my mom is fluent and said she could help some.

melicent@tenet.edu
From: SRO@ARLAN.BYU.EDU (Steve Olsen)
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Date: 5 Nov 92 18:12:34 GMT
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Hi,
I'm Steve Olsen from Orem, Utah, and I'm trying to research Penn.
Dutch families in Penn., Ohio, and Iowa with the surnames of Born,
Shockey, Gerlach, and Amen.

I just became aware of Roots-L and plan to be a regular participant.

Steve Olsen
1234 N. Main Street
Orem, Utah  84057
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From: elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher)
Subject: righting an ancient wrong?  :)
Reply-To: elle@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 01:54:59 GMT

This story appeared in alt.politics.elections last week.  Let's keep
followups genealogically relevant, all right?

Paraphrasing where possible from a (presumably copyrighted) Associated
Press story, datelined London:

Harold Brooks-Baker of Burke's Peerage said that the [U.S. presidential]
election results -- Clinton defeating Bush -- "could be seen as righting
a 13th century wrong."  [Brooks-Baker, an American from Baltimore, is
"publishing director" for Burke's Peerage -- which, as all here should
know, one of _the_ authoritative works on English noble descents.]

Clinton is apparently descended from the English nobleman Simon de
Montfort, who "accused Bush's ancestor, King Henry III, of misrule and
led other barons against him."  [All of which led to commoners in
Parliament and similar horrible results.  :)]

"But the king broke his oath to observe the new democracy and sent his
army against Simon, defeating and killing him at the battle of Evesham
in 1265. ... Simon's body was cut into pieces and bits sent around the
country to show what happened to democrats." 

Well, glad we cleared that up.  :)

--                    __
Ellen Keyne Seebacher \/             elle@midway.uchicago.edu
From: achristo@pons.uio.no (Alf Christophersen)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Soundex encoding
Date: 8 Nov 92 19:20:00 GMT
Organization: University of Oslo


>These apply only if the letters are side by side or double BEFORE
>you drop the vowels, w's, and h's.  That is, to get the Soundex
>of ISAACSON, don't change it to ISCSN, collapse the SCS to a S,
>and soundex ISN (I250).  Do collapse the CS, which are side by side,
>then eliminate the vowels, and code ISCN, or I225.
>
>                --Karen
>                  karen@rand.org
>
Well, still the main varieties of my surname,
Christophersen (Kristoffersen, Christoffersen, Xristophersen,
Xfersen) will all be different Soundexes (test for the reader),
so we also need to change the first letter now and then.

Examples here is CH and X(plus consonant) in begginning of names
must be recoded to K before further processing. Someone have an
algoritm to do this? There should also be some introduction at
start telling the main language. Dutch should place the 'g'
somewhere else than in other languages, as an example. What about
an international soundex that takes in account all different way
of pronouncing certain consonants and wovels? Anyone stepping
forward?

Alf Christophersen
Roots-L list owner
From: lincoln@rand.org (Tom Lincoln)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Canadian Genealogy
Date: 9 Nov 92 03:35:49 GMT
Organization: RAND Corporation.

In article <ROOTS-L%92110817410664@VM1.NODAK.EDU> C0150@VMCMS.CSUOHIO.EDU writes:
>
>    According to the "Directory of the Province of Ontario 1857" there
>    are several Cayley's listed.  One of which is William, who in another
>    reference book was said to have 11 children, the name were not
>    listed though.  He lived from 1807- 1890, so it is possible that
>    there is a connection there.  William's obit might be in the
>    Toronto Daily Mail, Feb 24-27 1890.

     Maybe someone has other reference books on Ontario
>    families that might shed a little light.

Melvyl eats up questions like that....

1.
Author: Rubincam, Milton, 1909-
Title:  Alexander Sutherland of Holland Landing, Ontario, and his
family: a problem in Canadian genealogy. Washington, D. C.,
National Genealogical Society, 1962.
Description:    pp. 153-158. 26cm. unbound.

Notes:  Reprinted from National Genealogical Society Quarterly, vol. 50,
no. 3, September 1962.

Call numbers:   CSL     Sutro   CS71 S958 1962



11.
Author: Nadeau, Cecile A.
Title:  Nadeau family : genealogy and history of two collateral lines in
Canada and the United States of America, 1665-1975, with notes
on the families of Choquette, Bessett, Wells, and Monahan / by
Cecile A. Nadeau. Dyer, Ind. : Nadeau, 1976.
Description:    vii, 571 p., [83] leaves of plates : ill. ; 29 cm.

Notes:  Includes index.

Subjects:       Nadeau family.
United States -- Genealogy.
Canada -- Genealogy.

Call numbers:   CSL     Sutro   CS 71 N15 1976

13.
Author: Waters, Marjory McGillivray, 1923-
Title:  Waters in depth, 1648-1978 : a genealogy of the Waters family of
Caithness, Scotland and the Livermore family of Devonshire,
England (1736-1978) in Canada and U.S.A. / by Marjory
McGillivray Waters. [Darien? Conn.] : Waters, c1978.
Description:    366 p. : ill. ; 29 cm.

Subjects:       Waters family.
Livermore family.
Canada -- Genealogy.

Call numbers:   CSL     Sutro   CS 71 W33 1978

Good Searching!!

Tom
From: thompson@nde.unl.edu (norma thompson)
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Subject: Re: Schatz
Date: 11 Nov 1992 21:59:35 GMT
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thompson@nde.unl.edu (norma thompson) writes:

>I am new to this network use and to geneology. We are searching for anyone 
>who might have connections to Rev. George, Marcus (or John Marcus or Marcus
>John) and Francis (or Franziska Schatz) who came from Germany, we believe 
>in the mid-1800s.  They settled in NW Missouri. Rev. George Schatz was a 
>circuit rider in NW Missouri and SE Nebr, died young leaving 7 children. 
>Some of the children settled in St. Joe, another was in Washington at the 
>time of his death.  Marcus supposedly did not return from the Civil War 
>although record of his death cannot be found.  He had 3 children: John, 
>Hermann and Martha Voltmer. Hermann died at age 21.

>We seek information leading to their village origins in Germany (we assume) and 
> year of arrival, ship name if available, and any other information about 
>their decendents. Th
anks

>thompson@nde.unl.edu
From: bm455@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bradley N. Deacon)
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Subject: Hamburg-to-NY
Date: 7 Nov 1992 21:45:19 GMT
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I have a question.  I just found out that par t of my tree
arrived June 25, 1866 in New York, aboard the Germania, from
Hamburg.  How long would this have taken to sail - Can anybody
estimate when they left?

Also, family lore is that they married right before leaving.  Her
1st husband had died and they had had a few kids.  Is there any
feasible way to find out if this is true, and both 1. her maiden
name, and 2. where she was from ?  The book I found this in had
a space for the town, but nobody on this ship had the info after
their names.  I know where he was from (Rensekov/Greifenberg,
Pommern).
Thanks 
Brad Deacon
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From: rikv@rikv.mentorg.com (Rik Vigeland)
Subject: Re: Lambs, the sequel 
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:37:57 GMT
Organization: mentor
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

Bill, a LOT of my Lytle family came from Randolph Co., NC
and went to Grant Co., IN.  I am not surprised that someone
would think they were from IN and really from NC or vice
versa if they were young when the family moved or born just
after.

Anyway, I have a lot of data from both counties, especially
note that I have ALL the back issues of the Randolph Co.
Genealogical Society's Journal.  The name LAMB is in them
over and over.  Also, I have the NC Quaker Records by Hinshaw,
which has Back Creek records.  I think several of my Bulla
family there married Lambs, but I would have to check.

Do let me know if there is something I can look for, and what
you're end of the line ancestry is; I'll try to fill in some
blanks.

Please respond by e-mail, as I may not get back to soc.roots for
a few days.

Rik Vigeland

rikv_vigeland@mentorg.com

(W) 503-685-7000
(H) 503-266-9253 (Oregon, PST)
From: ALAURIE@ARIZVMS.BITNET
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Subject: SAPPENFIELD; BETHELL
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:13:05 GMT
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Do these names ring any bells out there?  Regards - Anne
From: ASDSLP@ALBNYVM1.BITNET (Sharon L Palmateer)
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Subject: Interlibrary Loan
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:05:46 GMT
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Does anyone know what the procedure is to get something from the National
Archives through Interlibrary Loan?  My library has never done this and
are, needles to say, a bit hesitant (although they didn't flat out refuse).
From conversations on the net, I assumed it was done quite frequently.  Am
I wrong? (Lord knows it wouldn't be the first time!)

Hopefully, I have just broken new ground for this particular library and,
once tried and perfected, they will no longer raise their eyebrows.

Wish me luck!

Sharon
From: usr9428a@TSO.UC.EDU (Helmut J. Jungschaffer)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: French-Canadian marriages
Date: 9 Nov 92 08:02:55 GMT
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Could somebody with access to a "Drouin" make some copies out of it for me?
If so, please let me know the costs and your snail mail address for a check
to be sent.
Thanks!
Helmut
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