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From: jeanpaul@duteca.et.tudelft.nl (J.P.M. van der Jagt)
Subject: PPP on DEC2100/Ultrix3.1 Anyone?
Originator: jeanpaul@dutecad.et.tudelft.nl
Keywords: PPP
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:29:31 GMT

Hi All,

I'm trying to install PPP on a DEC2100 running Ultrix3.1. I got the source
ppp-streams.tar.Z from an ftp site. According to the README this could
be installed on BSD4.3 systems. It requires the source code for the
following kernel objects: if.o, init_main.o, tty_conf.o, tty_pty.o
I ftp'd a bunch of source files that belonged to the BSD4.3 net2-source,
but it seems that there are too many differences between Ultrix and net2
so I don't think I can use those source files.
So I'm stuck.
Anyone out there who got PPP on Ultrix running?
Any clues where to get the kernel objects with PPP support or the Ultrix
sources to build a kernel with PPP?

Please E-mail.
Regards, John-Paul
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: lange@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Alex Lange)
Subject: First Line Comments in Scripts
Reply-To: lange@lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space, Sunnyvale CA USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 18:32:34 GMT

It seems as though ULTRIX 4.2 insists that all shell scripts
run in the C shell, ignoring the $SHELL variable.

My $SHELL is /bin/sh.  My scripts have first lines that look like this:

# @$-r name of job
set -x

(These are directives for the NQS batch system on some machines.)
I can run these scripts interactively or in batch on non-ULTRIX
machines because the directive looks like a comment to most UNIXes.

But ULTRIX runs these scripts in csh. I have to add #!/bin/sh 
to force what should be my default shell!

The same behavior happens with commented SCCS files (with
# @(#) on line one).

Is this a well known flaw in ULTRIX (I haven't located the FAQ
for this group)? or something peculiar with my system?

Alex Lange
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Please email me on how to print Bookreader files
From: K.Spagnolo@massey.ac.nz (Ken Spagnolo)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 00:12:09 GMT
Organization: Massey University Computer Centre

Of course, I didn't pay attention when the discussion was going on
and now I need to do it.  I'd appreciate if someone would email a
summary if there is one.

Cheers,
-- 
Ken Spagnolo - Ph: +64-6-350-5160
Systems Programmer, Network Support, Usenet Admin, etc.
From: mccalld@vax.sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: termcap for vt220
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:49:05 GMT
Organization: Sonoma State University

Greetings:
     I'm looking for an old 'termcap' to a vt220.......it used to be
recognized in ULTRIX 3.2 but when we upgraded to 4.2 the ability to
use this terminal bent byby.....any suggestions!
thanks
mac
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: mjr@hussar.dco.dec.com (Marcus J. Ranum)
Subject: Re: FTP batch style ?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Washington ULTRIX Resource Center
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:37:48 GMT

>  I'm trying to come up with a script file which FTP's an empty file
>to another host (local) which is non-UNIX/ULTRIX.......I'd like to see
>examples of how this is done.....the man pages are somewhat vague about
>how the .netrc is invoked and I would like the script to be cronable

	Let's suppose I want to copy a file from my local server, 'urc'

	Well, first you put something like this in your .netrc:

machine urc login anonymous password mjr@dco.dec.com

	Then you write a shell script like:

#!/bin/sh
ftp urc << _EOF_
cd pub
prompt
mget *.Z
quit
_EOF_

	Then execute the shell script from cron. Doing stuff like trapping
errors and logging it is left as an exercise for the reader.

mjr.
From: mjr@hussar.dco.dec.com (Marcus J. Ranum)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: :permission denied?
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:18:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: decuac.1992Sep3.151848.23143
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Washington ULTRIX Resource Center

mccalld@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
 
>     The command sequence works ok however I get a message back from
>somewhere "permission denied:"........
>     Any idea what has happened?

	Probably something is trying to do something it hasn't got
permission to do. ;)

	Seriously, though, it's impossible for us to tell from
here. It could a file permission is not right, it could be a
directory, it could be something in your script is trying to 
kill a process, it could be a bunch of things.

	The way to debug your shell scripts is to run them with
"set -x" in them (if bourne shell) or "set verbose" (if you are
so unlucky as to be programming in csh) and then see what's
causing the error, as each command is executed.

mjr.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: idallen@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca (Ian! D. Allen [CGL])
Subject: Re: Service Accounts running X login
Reply-To: idallen@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca (Ian! D. Allen [CGL])
Organization: Computer Graphics Lab, University of Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:47:27 GMT

>> Are there any possibilities to control the actions of some special accounts
>> after the X window login ?
>
>You can modify the .profile or .cshrc to be a "captive" account so that all
>that you can do is perform a shutdown or exit.

No you cannot.  A user logging in can hit BREAK at just the right
point to cause the .profile or .cshrc to be skipped, allowing a normal
unrestricted login shell.  Don't do this.
-- 
-IAN! (Ian! D. Allen)  idallen@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca  [129.97.140.64]
 Computer Graphics Lab/University of Waterloo/Ontario/Canada (519)888-4534
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: mcba@newt.phys.unsw.edu.au (Michael C. B. Ashley)
Subject: SUMMARY (preliminary): There have been 243 unsuccessful login attempts on your account
Keywords: comp.unix.ultrix
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 11:06:45 GMT

Thank you to the many people who responded to my original message
regarding tracking down unsuccessful root logins.

I have done two things to try and locate the problem: (1) enabled the
ULTRIX audit facility to audit success and failure of all logins, and
(2) installed log_tcp (a wrapper for IP network services from Vol 30 of
comp.sources.unix, written by Wietse Venema (wietse@wzv.win.tue.nl)).
log_tcp writes a message to /var/spool/mqueue/syslog whenever someone
tries to use any of the IP network services that you specify (I have
enabled TELNETD, RLOGIND, RSHD, and FTPD).

However, the problem remains! After leaving the system overnight I had
"133 unsuccessful login attempts" on the root account, and the
audit log didn't show anything (yes I did dump the auditd buffer with
/etc/sec/auditd -d, and I have checked that a deliberate unsuccessful
root login is recorded). Moreover, log_tcp recorded just the correct
number of logind/rshd/telnetd/ftpd's expected from the output of "last".
Also, a thorough check through "lastcomm" shows no commands being run
that
tally with the number and distribution of the phantom logins (I
usually get between 50 and 100 of them a day; sometimes 25 an hour,
sometimes only 1 or 2 per hour).

So, before I go crazy and reload the operating system in a frenzy of
paranoia, could someone please answer the following questions?

(1) What possible events cause the "unsuccessful login attempt"
    counter to be incremented?  Presumably this counter is the
    "fail_count" located in the auth file.

(2) Are there any such events that would also fail to be noticed by
    the auditd daemon?  Or is it possible that I have auditd set up
    incorrectly?

(3) Are there any other ways of logging into a DECstation other than
    the logind/rshd/telnetd/ftpd daemons that I am monitoring with
    log_tcp?  (I don't have DECNET support in the kernel, and don't
    have LAT as far as I know...).

Thank you in advance for any help.
Michael Ashley mcba@newt.phys.unsw.edu.au
Astrophysics Dept. / Uni of NSW / Sydney Australia
From: feldman@hal9k.cxo.dec.com (james feldman)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: Audio device on Dec5000/25 ?
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:01:12 GMT
Reply-To: feldman@hal9k.cxo.dec.com (james feldman)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Aug28.140102.7220@cs.brown.edu>, lr@cs.brown.edu (Luigi Rizzo) writes:
|>I noticed that Personal Dectsations 5000/25 (and probably other models
|>as well) have a connector for a telephone handset on the back.
|>Unfortunately, I couldn't find info on how to use it, nor the
|>appropriate device drivers.
|>	Do I need some kernel extension/nonstandard software (currently
|>running Ultrix 4.2a ), or there is a simpler solution ?
The only sw that I know of is XMedia AKA DEC's Multi media application (which
includes drivers).  The audio portion reads and writes .au files that are
compatible with the SPARC stations.  You can plug a telephone handset in the
back to listen or record.

jimf

disclamer...I'm just a ULTRIX user in DEC.
From: rcbi110@muvms3.bitnet (R. ALAN MONROE)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Dec5000/200 suddenly no longer can ftp or telnet etc.
Date: 27 Aug 92 10:13:53 GMT
Organization: Marshall University


Another unidentified problem to add to the list...

Telnet and FTP worked fine for months, but now suddenly they don't work at
all.  And I'm pretty sure no one changed anything.  (But not 100% sure :^( )
Even worse, IRC doesn't work :^)

Pinging various sites gives 100% packet loss.

Telnet and FTP _do_ work when connecting to the vaxcluster on campus, but
that's all.  No outside addresses.

Nobody uses that machine currently, so there is no incentive for them to fix it
anytime soon, but I miss irc, so I would like to try to fix it.

What would be the first things to check?

Thanks for any help...

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: alan@nabeth.enet.dec.com (Alan Rollow - Alan's Home for Wayward Tumbleweeds.)
Subject: Re: Backups
Reply-To: alan@nabeth.enet.dec.com (Alan Rollow - Alan's Home for Wayward Tumbleweeds.)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:52:33 GMT


In article <1992Sep03.190809.22696@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk>, ucap22a@ucl.ac.uk (Mr Alisdair R Davey) writes:
> [ some stuff deleted... ]

>...
I'm sitting in front of a decstation 5000/125 running ultrix 4.2 with
>a nice little exabyte attatched to it - I have a blank exabyte tape
>on the desk in front of it and I want to save some files to it. ... 
>So can someone please tell me how I go about initialising my tape.

You don't.  Need to initialize the tape that is.  I'm assuming
that you something based on the Exabyte 8200 (Mountain Filesafe
2100 D is the one we sell).

>Assuming I can manage this task hwo do I go about saving files to
>it without them overwriting each other.

Personally I'd use tar(1).  If you want multiple archive write
all but the first to the no-rewind device:

	tar cvf /dev/nrmt0h ./file-list-1
	tar cvf /dev/nrmt0h ./file-list-2
	tar cvf /dev/rmt0h ./file-list-last

>I'm now off for a coffee. Can I make anyone one?

I prefer my caffine as carbonated water, sugar, etc.  Usually going
by the name Dr. Pepper.  Thank you for asking though.

>Alisdair
>
--
Alan Rollow				alan@nabeth.cxo.dec.com
From: akk9180@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: stray processes
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:09:35 GMT
Reply-To: akk9180@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

We have a problem with stray user processes in ULTRIX 4.2A on our DECstation
5000s.  Pathworks users typically leave their PCs on at night connected to an
Ingres front end server in the middle of an application.  The users end up
being disconnected but it leaves a process hanging.  Those that turn their
machines off do so from the application, which doesn't help anything.  They too
leave processes hanging.

For example:kmh      11882  0.0  0.0  376   36 04 IW     0:00 -csh (csh)
kmh       5389  0.0  0.8 2648  216 ?  R N  5128:05 pro -ddbs01::prod
-X/rz11a/tm
kmh      22098  0.0  0.8 2652  216 ?  R N  2990:52 pro -ddbs01::prod
-X/rz11a/tm
kmh       2257  0.0  0.8 2912  212 ?  R N  281:36 pro -ddbs01::prod -X/rz11a/tm
root     24756  0.0  0.1   40   32 p2 S      0:00 grep kmh
kmh      12095  0.0  0.0    0    0 10 Z      0:00 <exiting>
kmh      12094  0.0  1.2 1808  304 04 R N  104:23 menu

This is an example of just one user.  We know of no way to time out user
connections.  We are running a Bin/Hesiod enhanced security environment.

I believe we are looking for something similar to HITMAN for VMS...
HELP!

					Alok Kapoor
					Harris Corporation
					(716)244-5830 x3663
					AKK9180@RITVAX
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From: mbundy@tghost.gbdata.com (Michael B. Bundy)
Subject: Xenix and Token Ring
Organization: TimeGhost Systems
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 02:59:16 GMT

I am running Xenix 386 v2.3.3 with the TCP/IP Runtime v1.01f...My question,
as the subject suggests, is if there are any Token Ring drivers availble
for the Xenix TCP/IP?

Michael
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mbundy@tghost.gbdata.com                 (713)933-3640
From: bob@consult.UUCP (Bob Willey CDP)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: Re: Xenix considered harmful (was Re: SCO support - a success story)
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:50:35 GMT
Reply-To: bob@consult.UUCP (Bob Willey CDP )
Organization: CCS Enterprises, Inc. - Easton, MD

In article <BtznH6.Ez@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us> mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst) writes:
>In article <1189@consult.UUCP> bob@consult.UUCP (Bob Willey CDP ) writes:
>
>My point was that he said he "never even considered Unix."  Now, how
>could he possibly know if Unix was or was not appropriate if he never
>networking or security needs.  Modems are a form of networking, and as
>you mention, they work fine.  But putting a modem on a computer and
>leaving security turned off is just about as much of a security risk
>as putting the root password in /etc/issue.

This discussion seems to be getting off track quite a bit.
This is not meant to be a shooting match of individual features of
Xenix -vs- UNIX.  We have nothing against SCO UNIX, the original point
was specially that you cannot just discount SCO Xenix as:
"not apprpriate".  SCO Xenix does have its place and for a lot of
installations (not ALL), then SCO Xenix is probably the best answer.

As far as "never even considered Unix", I am not sure where this came
from, but again, we are not talking about "not considered UNIX", just
the relevance of Xenix in small to medium sized customers.

As far as turning security off....  Again this is a tidbit from somewhere
that bears little to this discussion.

The whole discussion started to discuss the idea that someone should not
even recommend Xenix as an option, but rather to force them into
SCO UNIX because it is the only O/S they should even consider.
UNIX has its place and so does Xenix.  And Xenix will continue to be
appropriate for a lot of sites for a LONG time to come.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: gmeiers@edsi.plexus.COM (Garrett Meiers)
Subject: Re: Xenix considered harmful (was Re: SCO support - a success story)
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 05:53:21 GMT

marks@mgse.UUCP (Mark Seiffert) writes:

>Not my world. Xenix is fine, especially when I am installing a
>system were there will only be eight or less terminals, typically


Who said Xenix is limited to 'eight or less' terminals???  The
Xenix system I'm on now has 13 terminals attached plus the
console.  3 of those terminals are dial-up.  And we've had them
all logged in at once...  Unless I'm nuts.  Or in a frantic
dream...???  

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              control - alt - delete....
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst)
Subject: Re: Xenix considered harmful (was Re: SCO support - a success story)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:32:59 GMT
Organization: The Programmer's Pit Stop, Ann Arbor MI

In article <1992Sep3.110046.10391@zooid.guild.org> Ross Ridge <ross@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>For running a Public Access Unix site I can't really think of a
>better alternative.  Reliability and more efficient use of CPU,

That's interesting.  I would have thought that for a public-access
site, things like compatibility with the PD software out there and
similarity with other Unix systems would be important.  Xenix systems
are not usually known for these qualities.

-- 
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mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us   | Only a real man would use a GUI where the
                            | shift keys after "Alt" are "Super" and "Hyper."
From: brettw@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Brett D. Watson)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: Xenix beginner
Date: 31 Aug 1992 23:55:07 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

  I've just accepted a job which will require me to learn system
administration skills under SCO Xenix.  The company has been strapped
for cash for a few years now and is currently working on 8088-80286
PC's running Xenix.  I believe they are up to the current release of
Xenix, whatever that is.

  I would like to know where to start in learning Xenix
adminsitration.  In my current job, I was about to get started on
managing a Sun 630MP.  So I bought "The Unix System Administration
Handbook" which I think will be of great help even with Xenix.  What
else can I get hold of to get myself up to speed?  They have the
complete manual set as far as I could tell so I know I should dig
through them.  My biggest problem is that my workplace won't have an
internet connection for some time yet so I'll be pouring over news at
home during the evenings.  Just wondered if there was something out
there I could take in to work with me.  Any suggestions appreciated!

-=- Brett
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: chuck@edsi.plexus.COM (Chuck Tomasi)
Subject: Re: Keep-alive watchdog for shell process
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 11:39:15 GMT

compata@cup.portal.com (David H Close) writes:

:)Does anyone know of a way to make a shell process dependent upon the
:)periodic receipt of a "keep-alive" signal?  Of course, I mean through the
:)use of the standard set of shell commands and system utilities.  That is,
:)without programming except in sh, is there a way to make a shell process
:)die if it doesn't receive some signal at regular intervals?

How about reversing the logic and telling it to die if it DOES see the
signal?  You could then use something like trap (a /bin/sh and /bin/ksh
builtin) to do a clean exit when one or more signals is encountered.

A simple example might be:

#!/bin/sh
echo "process started `date`">>/usr/adm/some.log
trap "echo 'process killed `date`'>>/usr/adm/some.log;exit 0" 15
while `true`
do
	sleep 60
	# do something here
done

This was written from the cuff so I apologize for any slight errors.
The jist of it is to die and echo something to the log file when signal
15 is received, otherwise just keep running ad infinitum.
-- 
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chuck@edsi.plexus.COM    |      but I don't have to like it."
spool!cserver!edsi!chuck |                    -Dr. Crusher, "I, Borg"
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: bill@Celestial.COM (Bill Campbell)
Subject: Re: Spooler bug..
Organization: Celestial Software, Mercer Island, WA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 15:31:26 GMT

In <1992Sep2.024802.6772@uwm.edu> martin@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Martin A Miller) writes:

:Greetings,

:Just recently began subscribing to this newsgroup and have learned 
:more about my system (Xenix 2.3.2) in the last few days than in
:the previous 6 months.  Thanks..

:I had a number of questions and after checking the FAQ and looking
:through the items at anomaly.. I'm still left with a question about
:the bug in the print spooler (the bug that causes print requests to
:interrupt a currently printing job).  

:Has there been a fix for this?  And if so, where is it and how can I
:get it?  Any info?

This sounds like the ``assign two printers to the same device and
have both enabled'' bug.  I've been running SCO Xenix since 1987
starting with release 2.2.4 and have never seen a problem like
this unless I mismanaged my printer system.  Sounds like UM (User
Malfunction :-) to me.

Bill
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From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: Re: Xenix considered harmful (was Re: SCO support - a success story)
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:02:18 GMT
Organization: CompuData Inc.

mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst) writes:

>It's been my experience that SCO Unix just runs and runs and runs,
>too.  And SCO Unix has better support from third-party vendors, is
>cleaner, and is easier to administer than Xenix is.

I'd have to agree here. Sooner or later a customer will want to run something 
that will not be Xenix friendly. He will then blame you for not having a more 
current set of software on his system. In a sense our customers are also in 
our care and we should always suggest - not force - that they stay current 
with both hardware and software. It helps with support and general flexibility 
today and tomorrow.

fred
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