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Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Imigran for Migraine
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 17:00:00 -0500

KK> From: fbap2004@nusunix1.nus.sg (KWA KIM CHIONG)
KK> Organization: National University of Singapore
KK>
KK>
KK> What is the best treatment for Migraine? A doctor recently prescribed a
KK> new drug called "Imigran" to me which cost $10/pill, but he is not
KK> absolutely sure of the side effects as it is quite new. Does anybody
KK> know?

Be grateful that you only paid  $10.00 per tablet. I paid $ 20.00 per
tablet in Canada last August.

The "Best" treatment for migraine is the one that works for you (I'm not
trying to be coy here, just practical). I have suffered from migraine for
over 20 years and been thru just about every durg used for prevention.

Talk to your doctor about you concerns and get a "Patient Insert" from
your pharmacist. There are _many_ scientific papers available to you in
the form of "studies" on sumatriptan (Imigran). If you are unable to
locate any, EMAIL me back and I'll send you what I have and you can make a
decision about sumatriptan.

My experience with it has been that it takes about 1 1/2 to 2 hours for it
to relieve my headache pain and I _always_ have an even worse headache in
less than 24 hours.......something which appears common in users of this
drug for which it actually works.

The side effects I've read about were much the same as for etgotamine.

If you have not already done so, read the book by Dr. Oliver Sacks:
"Migraine, Evolution of a Common Disorder."

Best of Luck in your search........

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From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Need some info on diabetes and other diseases
Date: 4 Jan 93 16:39:11 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <1992Dec26.200710.2458@panix.com> andrewh@panix.com (Andrew Huie) writes:

>1) What causes diabetes?

Too little insulin to metabolize the glucose in the blood.  Can be 
due to death of the cells of the Islets of Langerhans in the pancreas
or to insulin resistance.

>2) What are the symptoms and effects?  How many of the effects are reversible?

Hyperosmolar urine with polyuria and polydipsia.  Weight loss.  
Neuropathy, nephropathy, retinopathy.  The immediate symptoms
are reversible when insulin is given.  The associated complications
may be preventable with good control in many people.  They are
not very reversible if they develop.

>3) What are the usual methods for getting insulin into the body?  How 
>frequent can the treatments be?  What happens if the person gets  too  much
>insulin?  

Injection is the only method, since the stomach digests insulin.  The
insulin comes in some long acting varieties.  Best results seem
to be obtain with more frequent injections.  Getting too much
insulin is quite dangerous unless the person can take in glucose
(orange juice will usually do).  

>4) What other diseases exist which are incurable but can be treated by
>self-administered injections or skin patches (not orally, nasally,etc.), to
>the point where the person can live fairly normal lives

There are many.  Pernicious anemia is one.  The patient has to take
B12 injections for life.
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From: sichermn@csulb.edu (Jeff Sicherman)
Subject: Re: sex, menstruation, endometriosis
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 08:56:55 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.231108.10579@beaver.cs.washington.edu> neville@cs.washington.edu (Dorothy Neville) writes:
>RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg) writes:
>> u081f131@astro.ocis.temple.edu writes:
>>
>>> I have recently been told that having sex during ones period can
>>> possibly lead to endometriosis.
>
>>The new "possibly-causing-endometriosis" myth combines the old taboos against
>>heterosexual intercourse during menstruation with new speculation (note: *not*
>>demonstrated fact) that *maybe* endometriosis *might* be caused by so-called
>>"retrograde menstruation" -- a pretty long shot so far as theories go, IMHO. 
>>Even if this *were* true (& there is no evidence for this part, so far), the
>>second speculation here is that so-called "retrograde menstruation" (if it
>>exists) *might* be caused by heterosexual intercourse during menstruation,
>>ANOTHER *extremely* long shot, IMHO. 
>
>I agree that retrograde menstruation based on sexual penetration seems
>improbable.  However, is it true that there is no evidence for any
>retrograde menstruation?  The insert to the cervical cap says do not
>use the cap during menstruation but doesn't say why.  A doctor told me
>that the reason for not using the cap while bleeding is that there is
>(speculation?/evidence?) that it can lead to endometriosis.

  This probably reflects ignorance about it's use, but could they be
concerned about Toxic Shock Syndrome from excessive flow restriction
and retention ?

>
>Perhaps, just perhaps, this is the seed that evolved into the warning
>of the possible link between sex and endometriosis?

-- 
Jeff Sicherman
up the net without a .sig
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From: kaminski@netcom.com (Peter Kaminski)
Subject: Re: Ecxema
Organization: The Information Deli - via Netcom / San Jose, California
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:17:23 GMT

In <1993Jan11.163812.3900@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:

>In article <1993Jan11.155501.14337@bcrka451.bnr.ca> seanna@bnr.ca (Seanna Watson) writes:

>>Around here, excema is generally cured when spring comes, no matter
>>what treatment is applied.  Fond hopes that the kids have outgrown it
>>have so far been dashed each December.

>Sounds more like really bad dry skin to me.

Because it's seasonal, or for some other reason?

I suffered from nasty eczema (angry red scaly, oozing patches) for 6
years or so in my twenties, and it was definitely seasonal -- much
worse during winter.  Seemed to start getting worse when we started
using the forced air heater, so it might have been because of dry air.

It would also get worse because of challenges to my respiratory
allergies, typically pollen season during the summer.

Over the course of a few years, several dermatologists prescribed
various corticosteriods, which provided some symptomatic relief
(along with the attendant side effects like skin thinning).

I never tried urea, but a health food store moisturizer made from
"electrolyte-free" (sounds like "deionized" to me :) water and
glycerin provided some symptomatic relief as well, presumably from the
humectant effect of the glycerin.

The eczema went away about three years ago, after a visit to a
homeopath and administration of a dose of homeopathic remedy.

Conventional medicine would say it was coincidental remission or
possibly placebo effect (homeopathy is generally scientifically
unproven and physically dubious); a homeopath would say it was a
homeopathic cure.  [Followups to this may be more appropriate
in misc.health.alternative.]

In any case, it's nice not to have it anymore!

Pete
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From: colby@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Kenneth Colby)
Subject: Re: Colbys-Weizenbaum and Overcoming Depression 2.0
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 19:51:13 GMT



Overcoming Depression 2.0 (OVD) is NOT a simulation or imitation
of a cognitive therapist. It is an entity in its own right, a new
method for alleviating depression with its own strengths and
shortcomings.

Think of OVD as a new kind of book made up of passages of educational
text interspersed with passages of interactive dialogue during
which the reader can communicate with the author using written
utterances.  Each can use the pronoun "I".  The author is not
physically present but the program he has written to conduct a
a conversation stands in for him as a surrogate, a proxy.  In OVD
the computer is not an autonomous independent entity such as
sought by "strong" AI.  In OVD (interventional AI) the computer
is being used as a linguistic medium to convey the interests and
concerns of the program's designer, a cognitive therapist.  Weizenbaum
simply confuses the medium with the messenger.

Pete and Ken Colby
M.A.I.W.
colby@cs.ucla.edu

Xref: sparky sci.med:23783 alt.drugs:20829
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: sci.med,alt.drugs
Subject: Re: RU-486 soon?
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:22:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1993Jan11.192219.10345
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1993Jan11.184411.1163@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:
> Is RU-486 a prostaglandin-type thing? Should we expect to see black-market
>production of it eventually?

It's a progesterone and glucocorticoid antagonist, and is a steroid itself.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: sci.med,sci.skeptic,alt.psychology.personality
From: ns14@crux2.crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Nathan Otto Siemers)
Subject: Re: It's Good In Theory, But... (Re: Characterization of quack theories)
Organization: Department of Chemistry, Cornell Univ.
Date: 9 Jan 93 06:40:11



lots of stuff deleted




	If this has not been mentioned before,  anyone interested in
an analysis of the development of scientific paradigm should look at:


	The Structure of Scientific Revolution

	Thomas Kuhn

	MIT Press


	Off the top of my head, but I think that is correct.


Nathan Siemers, a Scientist skeptical of Science.

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/  | / /__|  /  /---/ /__| /  | /    nathan@chemres.tn.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: drinking urine
From: habersch@husc9.harvard.edu (Oren Haber-Schaim)
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:00:07 GMT


>In article <43044@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> wsun@jeeves.ucsd.edu (Fiberman) writes:
>>Hello netter,
>>
>>I am a skinny guy trying to gain some weight.  A friend
>>suggested that I drink a cup of my own urine every morning, the
>>idea that most of the nutrients not absorbed by my intestine is
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^     
>>in the urine.  
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^

            most of the nutrients not in the food you served yourself
are in the garbage you threw out;  therefore, you should also eat that
garbage to gain weight.


--Oren
From: das@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: What is a Physcian Assistant?
Date: 12 Jan 93 13:42:10 GMT
Reply-To: das@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

In article <C0pHIH.8JB@csn.org>, garys@teal.csn.org (Gary F. Stevens) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.113936.1@skcla.monsanto.com> julien@skcla.monsanto.com writes:
>>I recently heard of a position called a Physcian's Assistant. Is this fairly    
>>new(within the last few years)? What degree or qualifications must they have?
>>

There is a Physician's Assistant program at Duke, I think.  At least, the 
student clinic seems to be heavily staffed by PA's :-).  The program has  been 
around since at least the mid-80's and probably a little earlier.  I believe
the one here requires a BA or BS to get into the program.  I don't know what
degree is offered by the program, but a few PA's I've known have finally 
completed the struggle to become MD's recently so I figure it's kind of like 
/a "Master's" in medicine or something.

----------
Lora M. LeMosy, Duke University, Durham, NC USA
das@canctr.mc.duke.edu -or- 71544.467@compuserve.com
I do not speak for the university and the university does not speak for me.
In fact, I doubt they know I even exist or have opinions of my own.
----------
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From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Subject: Re: Herbs for Menopause
Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 06:11:55 GMT

An obvious point about herbs which people seem determined to overlook:

  Like all drugs, they are either ineffective, or potentially dangerous.

Why do people assume that if a drug is found in a plant it must
be "all natural" and ipso facto harmless?

I'm not going to put stuff in my body that nobody knows the probable
effect of.
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From: laura@TASVAX.NSWSES.NAVY.MIL
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Advice on contact lenses wanted (especially on disposable ones)
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:24:39 GMT
Reply-To: laura@TASVAX.NSWSES.NAVY.MIL
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Port Hueneme Division

In article <MUCIT.93Jan4005802@slate.cs.rochester.edu>, mucit@cs.rochester.edu (Bulent Murtezaoglu) writes:

>Back in '84 (I think) when I first got mine, my ophtalmologist in Turkey
>recommended the B&L extended wear kind and told me I could keep them in 
>for up to a month (maybe even more, I don't remember).  So I still get the 
>same kind and keep them on for up to 2 months or so.  I replace them once a 
>year mostly because something happens to them (the last time it was my 4 year
>old neice draining the liquid out of the container).  I understand that
>the recommendation changed as more data came in during the recent years,
>but I figure since I'm having no discomfort there's no obvious need to
>change my habits.  Optometrists and ophtalmologists I've seen over the 
>years can't find anything wrong with my eyes other than near-sightedness, 
>though I sometimes get scolded for keeping them on that long.  Maybe 
>I'm being short sighted too?

This all sounds exactly like my situation just a few years ago.  I was
perfectly comfortable in my contacts, and I had a doctor warn me not to
wear my lenses for so long.  I didn't listen.  See my last post for the
consequences.

Laura

laura@tasvax.nswses.navy.mil                      I speak only for myself.
Mom to Maryrose Nadine McGovern - born 8-5-92
From: rind@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu (David Rind)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Ventolin
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:32:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Beth Israel Hospital, Harvard Medical School, Boston Mass., USA

In article <1993Jan7.221651.595@news.wesleyan.edu>
 RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg) writes:
>Great idea!  David, I've been trying to contact you via e-mail, but all the
>e-mail I send to you gets bounced back.  Sorry to post this to the whole
>continent, but could you please send me a non-bouncy e-mail address? Thanks.

I wish I could.  They moved my mail server's location three days ago
and so far it has been unable to receive any mail since then.  They're
working on the problem.  I'll post a note to sci.med when I'm again
able to get email.  My apologies to anyone who has been trying to
send me mail.
-- 
David Rind
rind@binoc.bih.harvard.edu
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From: nadel@attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
Subject: Re: Feldenkrais therapy
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:05:57 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.225205.15160@cunews.carleton.ca> rwood@lance.carleton.ca (Richard Wood) writes:
>
>  I am interested in knowing more about 'Feldenkrais' therapy. I
>checked my home medical dictionary, but it wasn't listed.  Is
>anyone familiar with it (apparently it involves joints and movement) ?
>Are there any books or articles on the subject?  Does it work ?
>Is it worth investigating, or is it just touchy-feely mumbo-jumbo.

Moshe Feldenkreis developed a system of exercise that is intended to make
people move more naturally.  I'm not surprised that it isn't in your home
medical dictionary as those who practice his system don't generally claim
that it does anything other than alleviate pain and tension associated with
moving incorrectly.  There are sporadic claims of psychological benefit due
to lessened tension, but the same is true of almost any exercise system.
(Does your home medical dictionary list yoga?)

At any rate, Feldenkreis wrote a book titled _Awareness Through Movement_.
And trained practitioners.  This form of bodywork is particularly popular
among dancers - the main reason I know anything about it is that one of
my dance teachers used Feldenkreis exercises in her cool-down routines.

If you want to try it out, there are two routes.  One is a group class.
There the instructor will talk the class through various exercises and
the students try out various positions to see what is natural and 
comfortable.  The other is to go for private sessions with a practioner who 
will move you around into different positions.  Private lessons are, of
course, more expensive and I would suspect that they are of less benefit
in some ways as you're not moving your muscles yourself most of the time.

The Alexander Technique is a similar program of exercises that are supposed
to serve as a movement corrective.

Do these things work?  It depends on what you're trying to do.  I think 
they are somewhat effective if you have bad movement habits, such as a
tendency to hyperextend your knees.  They're relaxing.  They're reasonably
good for stretching after a workout (as in their use in dance class).
I'd be somewhat leery of claims that go much beyond this.  Two sessions
a week would meet typical needs for flexibility exercise, but so would two
sessions a week of yoga or tai chi.

Miriam Nadel

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From: hrubin@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
Subject: Re: Non-physician bashing
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:28:15 GMT

In article <18007@pitt.UUCP> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
>In article <C0CDAy.6sB@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:

>>And there is the real thinker, who will also be called quacks by the
>>substantial majority who cannot think.  When it comes to those who are
>>in the bureaucracy, the majority becomes not merely substantial, but great.

>No, cream really will rise to the top.  It is just that real thinkers
>are rare in any field.

The history of medicine, and of other fields, shows this to be often false.

Real thinkers are rare.  It is important that they not be destroyed.  We
have had a period where they could flourish to some extent, but we seem
to be heading toward a situation where this is very definitely unlikely
to be the case.  

Semmelweiss was destroyed by the medical profession of his day.  The
antiestablishment attitude of the late 19th century allowed Pasteur
and Koch to survive.  But increasing government control could end this
period, and with the decrease in private research funding to almost
nothing, we may very well enter a period in which doing anything other
than "going by the book" will be almost impossible, especially in
the USA.  I even question whether a real thinker is likely to survive
the customary training of physicians.
-- 
Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
Phone: (317)494-6054
hrubin@snap.stat.purdue.edu (Internet, bitnet)  
{purdue,pur-ee}!snap.stat!hrubin(UUCP)
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From: craig@cs.toronto.edu (Craig MacDonald)
Subject: EMS/TENS/TES Electrical Muscle Stimulation
Keywords: Electric,neurological,stimulation
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 7 Jan 93 13:58:52 GMT

I am looking for information about the effects of long term use of
EMS/TENS/TES.  I have been using Electrical Stimulation 3-7 times a
week for more than two years for a patella injury. (quads/hams)

Sources of articles would be appreciated.

Craig (craig@cs.toronto.edu)
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From: jac54@cas.org
Subject: Re: Still on the Swiss Military
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:42:47 GMT


From jac54@cas.org

In article <C0Jprs.8u7@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> you write:
>
>From Emmanuel Baechler <baechler@lia.di.epfl.ch>
>
>> As as side note, does anyone have accurate figures on how much money
>> is spent (either %of GNP or actual $ or francs) by the Swiss for
>> military budgets?
>
	Defence budget $4.6 billion

	GNP $126 billion

	Source: World Defence Almanac

	Alec Chambers

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From: Charles.K.Scott@dartmouth.edu (Charles K. Scott)
Subject: Re: Worst Allied WW2 Fighters
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:21:35 GMT


From Charles.K.Scott@dartmouth.edu (Charles K. Scott)

In article <C0CBv4.GKo@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM>
ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:

> In spite of this I've come across accounts of Thunderbolts turning inside
> FW-190s. I don't think the wing loading was _that_ high. It also had a 
> very high roll rate.

I believe the P-47 had the highest wing loading of any fighter of the
WWII era.  It's ability to stay with the 190 perhaps was due more to
the efficacy of the rudder than an actual ability to turn with it. 
I've read several accounts of Jug pilots who skidded the aircraft
enough to draw lead and shoot down the Focke Wulf.  Robert Johnson in
particular was very skilled in using this Jug capability.

Corky Scott

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From: Joseph F Baugher <jfb@ihlpl.att.com>
Subject: Number Forty in the Series--Curtiss P-40
Keywords: P-40Q, an experimental afterthought
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories -  Naperville, Illinois
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:26:05 GMT


From Joseph F Baugher <jfb@ihlpl.att.com>

The P-40Q was an experimental project which attempted to produce a 
really modern fighter out of the existing P-40.  The modifications 
were in fact so drastic that there was very little in common with 
earlier P-40 versions.  Two P-40Ks (serial numbers 42-9987 and 
42-45722) and one P-40N (serial number 43-24571) were extensively 
modified with revised cooling systems, two-stage superchargers, and 
structural changes which markedly altered their appearance.  The 
project was assigned the designation XP-40Q.  

The first XP-40Q was P-40K-10-CU ser no 42-9987 fitted with a new 
cooling system, a longer nose, and a four-bladed propeller.  The 
radiators were moved into an under-fuselage position, with intakes 
between the undercarriage legs.  

The most prominent XP-40Q feature, used on 42-45722 and 43-24571, was 
the cutting down of the rear fuselage and the addition of a bubble 
canopy as on the "XP-40N".  Later the wingtips were clipped.  The 
result was an aircraft which bore almost no resemblance whatsoever to 
its parent P-40 line.  The V-1710-121 engine was fitted with water 
injection, resulting in a power of 1425 hp.  Speed increased to 422 
mph at 20,500 feet, making it the fastest of all the P-40s.  An 
altitude of 20,000 feet could be reached in 4.8 minutes, and service 
ceiling was 39,000 feet.  Four 0.5-inch machine guns were carried by 
the prototypes.  Wingspan was 35 feet 3 inches (after clipping), and 
length was 35 feet 4 inches (2 feet longer than the P-40N).  

The proposed production models of the P-40Q were to have carried 
either six 0.50-inch machine guns or four 20-mm cannon, but the XP-40Q 
was still inferior to contemporary production Mustangs and 
Thunderbolts, and development was therefore abandoned.  Consequently, 
the production life of the P-40 ended with the N version.  

The second XP-40Q was briefly used for postwar air racing.  Registered 
NX300B, the second XP-40Q was an unauthorized starter in the 1947 
Thompson Trophy race.  It was in fourth place when it caught fire and 
had to drop out of the race.  

Sources:

  War Planes of the Second World War, Fighters, Volume Four, William Green,
  Doubleday, 1964.

  The American Fighter, Enzo Anguluci and Peter Bowers, Orion Books, 1987.

  United States Military Aircraft since 1909, Gordon Swanborough and Peter
  M. Bowers, Smithsonian Institution Press, 1989.

  Curtiss Aircraft, 1907-1947, Peter M. Bowers, Naval Institute Press, 1979.

Joe Baugher       AT&T Bell Laboratories    2000 North Naperville Road 
		  Naperville, Illinois 60566-7033.   (708) 713-4548


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