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From: davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David G. Simmons)
Subject: Re: Netiquette
Originator: davids@feynman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:29:03 GMT


In article <BzH7xr.7uz@news.udel.edu>, angela@brahms.udel.edu (Angela Lakwete) writes:
|> >|>  * Origin: HILLCREST COMMUNITY BBS, SAN DIEGO: HST 619-291-0544 (1:202/703)
|> >
|> >Elaine, if you post it for all to see, you are going to have to deal with the
|> >consequences of other people getting involved.  You have more than pissed off
|> >people in this group, I suggest you learn some manners and learn how to properly
|> >post.
|> >
|> >
|> I agree with "SKY WARRIOR" (sorry, I forget your name!).
|> Elaine's posts hurt me even though they are directed elsewhere.
|> Now when I see her name on the heading, I simply zap by.  Her
|> rudeness and callowness is something I thought I'd never
|> experience on the network.
|> 
|>
I sent Elaine a few pages of "Usenet Guidelines" and "Nettiquette" that were
mailed to me after MY frakas here on rec.pets.dogs.  I got ZERO response from
her.  And she continued her obnoxious, ill-thought out and rude posts.
Some kind soul then posted a line to add to my kill file, so now I no longer
have to even know that she exists.  It is:

	/username@address/h:j

Works wonders.

Cheers, and happy holidays to all of you out there in net.land.  It
has been a wonderful year (mostly) reading, exchanging, etc. here
on r.p.d.  Kisses to all your pooches!!! ;-0

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From: trimpe_b@wums.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: RE: thoughts on off-leash play
Date: 3 JAN 93 16:31:52 GMT
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER
NNTP-Posting-Host: msnews.wustl.edu

In a previous article, laird@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Kyler Laird) wrote:

   [intermittant paragraphs deleted]

>I don't chase Greta.  Ever.  She either comes when called, or hits the
>ground when she sees me coming.  (Then we go to where I was telling her
>to "come" to.  Nothing harsh, just consistent.)

>I start play by dropping the leash when she's sitting, then running away.
>I find that running backwards and jumping to one side and spinning
>around when she approaches keeps her running lots more than me, and it
>keeps her running at me.

>When I'm ready for her to come in, I pause, wait to see if she seems
>ready to come in (no need to make it hard), then crouch and say "come".
>She normally bolts at me, darts to my right and circles up on my left.
>Then she gets some belly-attention.  This repeats several times. 
>--kyler
	This sounds similar to our off-leash play.  I've started taking our 
lab to a large fenced in field.  I'll unhook the leash and tell him to 
"go play".  He'll usually bound off towards the trees at the perimeter-
I usually sort of stroll after him just to keep an eye on him BUT then 
I'll start walking in the opposite direction.  At some distance apart
(Seems pretty consistant-determined by him) he'll start sprinting towards 
me. I'm of course *very* happy to see him.  I'll tell him to 'go play 
again and the whole process repeats itself.  Okay okay... my point is 
1-this gives him a great deal of exercise without killing me and 
2- NOW he doesn't roam so far to beggin with. He keeps a much sharper 
eye on my whereabouts than he used to.. a fringe benefit in my mind. I've
noticed this 'keeping closer' after about 8 days of 2X a day walks like this.
Your mileage may vary.
BT
From: mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (Sky Warrior)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Kill Files and a request ;-) was: Re: Netiquette
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:14:52 GMT
Reply-To: mlhb@drutx!att.com
Organization: Bell Labs, DCTT, Denver, Co.

In article <1hd19aINN8an@nigel.msen.com>, dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski) writes:
|> Sky Warrior (mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com) wrote:
|> 
|> : Anyway, I will accept any constructive suggestions as to how to get her
|> : to eat.  I am not about to get rid of her because she is an excellent lead
|> : dog.
|> 
|> How about chicken broth on the food?  If this works, you could add some
|> corn oil (start with small quantities) to up the calories without increasing
|> the volume very much.  
|> 
|> You might also try feeding her a puppy or performance food. 
|> Then it won't matter as much that she doesn't eat much.  I had a hard time
|> putting weight on Gaia until I fed her Eagle stress pack.  After I got the
|> weight on keeping it wasn't a problem and now she eats either Kennel pack
|> or Maintainance pack (slightly more food if the latter).
|> 
|> Gaia also eats more actively when we have a litter of kittens around.
|> It seems that 4 kittens in her food bowl gets her interest. :)
|> 
|> Karen

Well, that would be good, except I feed a high performance food, Kasco's 
Hi Energy which is a 30/20 mix.  (She seems to like that better than the 
original food she was on which was National)  I usually add bacon fat to 
the rations and a little corn oil.  Right now she's in heat and is pining
away for the two handsome bachelors down on the end of the row, so she is
rail thin.  

I think I'll try that competition thing once her heat is over (1 1/2 long
weeks)  I've got just the bitch to put her beside ;-)  Dancer snarfs 
everything.

Thanks to all who respond/responded!

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs,alt.culture.alaska
From: CSMSETS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (CSMSETS)
Subject: Re: Travelling with a dog in Alaska
Date: 29 Dec 92 14:43:45 PST

In article <1992Dec29.210737.890@unet.net.com>, on 29 Dec 1992 21:07:37 GMT,
philg@bozo.net.com (Phil Geller) writes:

>
>Can anyone offer advice on travelling with a dog in Alaska?
>I'm considering an RV type trip in a VW van.  I expect we
>will want to take the ferry at least one way.
>
>Some questions come to mind:
>        - Is Alaska more open to having dogs enter businesses
>          and hotels than they are in the lower 48?
>
>        - Are dogs allowed in state and national parks?
>
>        - Are there any special health concerns (giant ticks or fleas?)
>
>        - Where do dogs stay when you are on the ferry?  Can they remain
>          in a vehicle?  Are they allowed visits?
>
>The dog is a spayed Dobie, if that makes any difference.  She's really up
>for this trip.

If you are going during the warmer months I would be very concerned
about heartworm. I had a girlfriend from Alaska and she used to tell
me horror stories about the mosquitos. I think the best bet would be
to ask your vet.
            --Ed
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs,misc.test,talk.bizarre,rec.pets
From: sla54@cas.org (Sandra Augustine)
Subject: Re: Boston Terrier Stud Needed
Keywords: Boston Terrier
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 13:47:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.003358.24093@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> carasso@Turing.ORG (Roger Carasso) writes:
>julieann@cmhcsys.cmhcsys.com (Julieann Fitchwell) writes:
>>My three year old female Boston will be coming into season sometime this
>>Spring and I would like to breed her with a high quality stud. She is
>>registered (AKC) and is pet quality.
>
>Is it just me, or is it getting hot in here?
>
>...

	Perhaps it would be useful to find out what is meant by "pet quality" in
this particular case. "Pet quality" can mean anything from a horrible specimen
of the breed to a dog which has good structure, conforms well to the breed
standard, has good working ability, etc. but is just not the type which is
currently winning in the show ring.

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Sandra Augustine  |Home of: Conformation, obedience, and field titled Golden
NORWOOD KENNELS   |Retrievers who do therapy dog work, a disobedient but
ems: sla54@cas.org|beautiful Siberian husky and a *cute* Norfolk terrier puppy
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From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: dogs and computers and PHONES!
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:01:00 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

> Gail E. Brookhart writes:
> My two K-9 kids understand the computer and the phone pretty well.
> Casey the Bouvier knows that she is out of luck for much attention while I
> am playing with either of them.  Toby the Airedale knows that he can get
> away with more in the way of mischief when I am tied to my technology! <g>


My phone rings differently depending on whether it is the intercom or the
phone, and my dobie will start barking when the intercom rings. Actually it's
the same sound, just shorter, quicker rings.

He also acts up more when I am on the phone, he knows I'm less likely to come
after him! He also knows whether I am on the phone with a friend (which means
he is not as immune) or with a stranger. Brat!



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From: eufnlasn@ux1.lbl.gov (elizabeth finlayson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Opal's Inferiority Complex
Date: 22 Dec 92 23:04:08 GMT
Reply-To: eufnlasn@ux1.lbl.gov (elizabeth finlayson)
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: ux1.lbl.gov

In article <18809@mindlink.bc.ca> Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop) writes:
> rather than just NO or BAD DOG, it's ALWAYS "Name, NO!" 

Somewhere I got the idea that you are not supposed to use the dog's
name when you say NO.  Is there a difference between Name, NO! and
NO, Name!.  Does anyone know the reason for not using the dog's name
when you say NO?

Enquiring minds want to know.

Elizabeth
eufinlayson@lbl.gov
From: kevin@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: dogs and computers
Date: 22 Dec 92 13:31:42 -0600
Organization: Metro State U, Minneapolis MN

In article <1h7o7mINNe13@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>, vln@icpsr.umich.edu (Victoria Neff) writes:
> 
> What I want to know is, how come no one has invented a joy-stick that's
> ape proof.  I think there should be video games for captive apes.  I hate
> to see them sitting around bored in zoos -- I wish someone would invent
> joy-sticks that would let them play games, at least!

God I hope not!  Its tough enough dealing with the fact my 7 year old nephew
can beat me at almost any video game. (I can still win at BattleChess ;) but I
would really hate to go to the zoo and watch Sabu beat my highest score.  I
don't think my fragile ego could take that!
From: barb@golfcart.Corp.Sun.COM (Barbara Hunt)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: help needed with puller
Date: 21 Dec 1992 16:02:33 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: barb@golfcart.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: golfcart.corp.sun.com

I had great success with the prong collar.  I got an Old English Sheepdog when
he was 4 yrs. old.  He had apparently never been walked on a leash and
his pull was incredible - there was no safe way I could walk him.  I tried
a choke collar but he just ignored it.  A vet recommended the prong-type
collar and it worked beautifully from the very beginning.  The vet also
said the collar is not nearly as bad as it looks - the prongs are blunt and
seem to just pinch.  Now I don't need to use it any more and my dog walks 
well on a leash.

Barbara
From: kkv@inel.gov (Jamie J Ferguson)
Subject: Re: Australian Shepherds
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, Idaho Falls, Idaho
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 20:39:28 GMT


My Australian Shepherd X (Meggin) is -- we think -- part lab.  Who
really knows?  She is reddish brown with white and tan markings --
her markings and coloring looks remarkably like the pure shepherd
in our obedience class.  Her eyes are this weird but pretty yellow-
green color, almost exactly the color of the purebred's eyes.
Meggin definitely has that herding instinct -- when we first 
brought her home she and our lab were chasing each other around
the backyard, and the look on our lab's face when her ankles got
nipped was hilarious!  I have to be careful if I run while playing
with the dogs because Meggin tries to herd me too!  Meggin is 33.5 lbs
and is basically medium-sized.  She is very smart but starting to
be a little stubborn, but we're waiting for our foster puppy to
leave (3 days...) and for Christmas to be over before we worry about
serious training.  She is very friendly and loves to wag her whole
body!  Meggin has a long tail which is reddish-brown with a white
tip.  I know Australian Shepherds aren't supposed to have tails,
but it is a very friendly (and destructive, but our lab's whole body
is destructive so we're used to it) tail.  It curls when she is happy,
kind of like a husky's I guess.  

Meggin was found as a stray by a Humane Society volunteer (before
I started volunteering).  One Saturday I took my husband to the
HS pet center "just to look".  We thought we wanted a lab, but
Meggin was so cute we decided to take her out of the cage just
for fun.  Well, one look at that wagging tail and we were sunk.
She is a wonderful dog!



Jamie

the pack:  Kenzie   -- 1 yr old black Lab X
           Meggin   -- 8 month old Australian Shepherd X
           Harrison -- 4 month old Border Collie X

the herd:  Kieri -- 5 1/2 yr old lilac point Siamese
           Zak   -- 5 1/2 yr old blue point Siamese
           Duke  -- 1 yr old seal point Siamese



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From: liza@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Liza Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: dogs and computers
Date: 22 Dec 1992 23:27:56 GMT
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
NNTP-Posting-Host: pangea.stanford.edu

In article <1h7bedINN95n@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse) writes:
>
>
>I am curious as to whether anyone has a dog who recognizes the
>noises made by computers.  Whenever I am working (playing?) on my
>computer at home, Digory comes in and lies under the table.  As
>soon as I start to shut down for the evening my Mac makes some
>strange noises and Digory immediately gets up and heads either for
>his bed or my bedroom whichever room I happen to be headed to.  He
>seems to be able to sense which I am going to do.  Does anyone else
>have similar experiences?  He loves it when I'm on the computer 
>because I'm in one place for an extended period of time.
>

Yup.  Kashmir knows when I'm shutting down my Mac.  He also knows that if I
roll in my keyboard drawer I may be about to do something interesting.  All
the dogs are underfoot when I'm on the computer, but Kash is the one who
pays the most attention!

-=lizalee

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From: kkv@inel.gov (Jamie J Ferguson)
Subject: Re: Allergic Reaction- Swelling, how fast?
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, Idaho Falls, Idaho
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 17:09:39 GMT

In article <Bzq0t6.4oG@news.cso.uiuc.edu> schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu () writes:
>(Peter said if I worried half as much about my own health as I
>am about the pets' health I'd be in the doctor's office every other
>day!)


If anything is wrong with our animals we just take
them to the vet's office without worrying about an appointment --
if this problem is as serious as it might be you might want to just
do that.  We wait until after work but so far we haven't had anything
as serious as what you described.  I'd probably try to take him in at lunch,
but I only live 5 minutes from work (and the vet is within walking
distance of my house) so your situation may not be the same.  It's
always better to be overcautious instead of not enough.  Hopefully
your dog will be fine but the sooner you get him in the sooner you'll
be able to stop worrying.

Good luck -- please let us know how this works out.


Jamie

the pack:  Kenzie   -- 1 yr old black Lab X
           Meggin   -- 8 month old Australian Shepherd X
           Harrison -- 4 month old Border Collie X

the herd:  Kieri -- 5 1/2 yr old lilac point Siamese
           Zak   -- 5 1/2 yr old blue point Siamese
           Duke  -- 1 yr old seal point Siamese



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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: rich@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Rich Schwartzman)
Subject: The Circle
Organization: UDel, School of Life & Health Sciences
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 16:36:09 GMT


The circle is complete.  

On October 21, 1981 I returned home to find Laughter whelping on my bed.
Four pups had already been born and six more would follow before the night
was through.  One of the first four, I knew immediately, was going to be
staying with me, and I knew his name had to be Lightfoot.  He was part
collie, part Belgian Shepard, part Alaskan timber wolf.

22 months later Laughter was gone and I had to nurse Lightfoot through his
mourning her loss.  Three months after that, Feets and I moved from
Spartanburg, South Carolina to Amsterdam, New York.  From Amsterdam to
Philadelphia to Newark, Delaware, Feets was there.  He never played with a
ball or played tug of war.  He did nothing but spend his time being a
friend, companion and, to some, he was my four legged son.  

Shortly before 8pm on Wednesday, December 30, 1992 I signed the papers
authorizing the euthanasia.  His kidneys had failed and there was nothing
that could be done.  He went out with his head in my lap.  

From the moment of his birth to the moment of his death, my scent was with
him.  Lightfoot is gone.  The circle is complete.

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From: rjf@seiko.mpd.tandem.com (Russell Fleming)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: why is my dog scooting around on his butt?
Date: 30 Dec 92 20:08:06 GMT

In article <C0321I.6ou@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, schneid@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
(Mike Schneider) writes:

> Subject: why is my dog scooting around on his butt?
> 
> Yes, we've all seen our dogs do this occasionally.  I've heard
> different explanations...could someone explain to me why my
> dog does this occasionally, and what the frequency may mean?

One reason dogs do this is when their anal glands are stopped up.  If
this is the case, the glands need to be cleaned out.  Your vet can
easily do this for you or you may learn to do it yourself.  Personally,
I've never done it myself.  I've always let the vet handle it.

BTW.  If the glands are stoopped up and you do nothing about it, it
could lead to health problems for your dog.

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