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From: tfragala@cs.ulowell.edu (Tom Fragala)
Subject: Re: Metallica Sucks...
Summary: Creeping Death interpretation
Keywords: Creeping Death
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:25:21 GMT

In article <n9146070.723927125@fozzie> n9146070@fozzie.cc.wwu.edu (Jacob C Kesinger) writes:
>zeus@chopin.udel.edu (Michael Scott Price) writes:
>
>>>My interpretation of Metallica songs? Here it goes.
>>>
>>>Creeping Death - I think this is based on a story in the Bible
>
>Based on Moses.  Watch _The_Ten_Commandments_ w/ Heston (if you can)
>
Creeping death is the spirit that swept through Eqypt and killed the first
born son in every house unless there were marks on the door made in blood
(of calf sacrificed to God I think). Only the Jews knew to make the marks
on the doors. This was the last straw that finally made the Pharoah release
the Jews. They left, then the Pharoah reneged and chased them up until the
Red Sea. Then the Eqyptians went for a bit of a swim...

--Tom Fragala
From: bchase@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Bret Jared Chase)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Copycats...
Date: 14 Dec 1992 15:44:42 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <1992Dec14.071458.12992@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kris Young) writes:
>Whoever said that Megadeth's new album was supposed to have copied Metallica's
>why don't you take it home and listen to it.  Personally, I think it beats the
>shit out of the 'Black' album, but that's my opinion.  Does anybody else out
>Does anybody out there like 'Countdown to Extinction' as much as I do, or am
>I full of shit?
>Comment/flame away!
>
>Kris


I don't personally believe that Megadeth copied Metallica too much.  Anybody who plays at all will write some peice of music that will sound like someone else's. That's just the way it works out. As for the albums I liked them both, but the megadeth semmed to get allittle grating after a while (IMHO). It's nice to hear from someone ho isn't a die hard fanatic or a " true fan" 


Bret Chase
bchase@wpi.wpi.edu
(ve OD) I hate computer puke!
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson)
Subject: Re: Metallica Sucks . . .
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	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 11:22:15 GMT

In article <Byr1xF.68J@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> wilsonjc@expert.cc.purdue.ed
 (John Wilson) writes:
>>much.  But on the level of guitarists, Alex Skolnick is the best, ever.
>> 
>>He has speed...  Well, Kirk probably does too, but he doesn't use it mu
h.
>> Kirk is too blues-influenced for my tastes.  At times, he thinks he's
>>Jimi Hendrix, while Skolnick is the technical wizard.  In fact, if I we
e
>>to place the guitar-heroes in any kind of order, I would go:
>
>Maybe it is just me, but I look for more than just speed and flashyness 
n
>a musician and a band--which is why I like Rush so much.  Just because s
meone
>plays fast doesn't mean he is a musician and likewise, just because some
ne
>doesn't mean fast doesn't mean he can't do it.  Go back and listen to KE
 or
>Shortest Straw off AJFA...Kirk plays fast.  But I like his musicianship 
hat
>he shows on all of Metallica's songs-slow or fast.
>Just my 2 cents.
>John


Generally, I'd agree I like substance over flash.  But Rush is a little
different than Metallica...  Not every guitarist can play like Alex
Lifeson, nor should they.  For Metallica, I think the blazing solos are
better than the slow, bendy stuff...  Hammett can get a little too
Hendrix-like for me...


Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: yxl53882ultb.isc.rit.edu (Fractalman)
Subject: Jump in the Fire/Creeping Death EP CD for sale
Originator: yxl5388@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:31:39 GMT


My roomate is going home for break and where he comes from he could get
the JITF/CD EP CD for around $22. So if you don't have this disc yet and
want a copy let me know ASAP and I will reserve a copy for you. The
total price would be around $22+$2 shipping. (Price subject to change,
probably lower, not higher.)

Song list... done from memory, not sure if it's correct
Jump in the Fire
Creeping Death
Blitzkrieg
Am I Evil?
Phantom Lord (live)
Seek and Destroy (live)

=Fractalman
yxl5388@ultb.isc.rit.edu

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise)
Subject: Re: Rare Metallica CD List!
Originator: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:33:09 GMT

From article <1992Dec15.072730.5650@cis.ohio-state.edu>, by wamsley@lilac.cis.ohio-state.edu (Christopher Wamsley):
> 
> Mike Wagner wrote:
>>grey area as to what is 'rare' and what is not  - so maybe we can do
>>a complete list, eh?  Some of these may be boots, some may not even
> 
>   A complete list would be great.  I have seen many of these at local CD
> stores for double the mentioned price.  So, is there any mail order places
> that specialize in CDs like these.  If so, what's their address/number.  
> Thanks in advance.

	Double?  Really?  The local shop seems to be about 10-20% lower
than the prices mentioned there (ie.The list had the One Demo for $28...
I can get it for $25).

 TTYL
 Chris
From: klg@tixmcnit.tambov.su (Kabanov Leonid Gennadievich)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: What is tape I have ?
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:10:45 GMT
Reply-To: klg@tixmcnit.tambov.su
Organization: Tambov Center of New Information Technologies

I have tape caled "Jump in the Fire"
The songs recorded on this tape are:
Am I evil
Blitskrig
Jump in the fire
Seek and destroy
Phantom Lord

What's I have ?

-- 
"With the four horsemen ride Or choose your fate and die"(MetallicA)
                           -----------
Leonid Kabanov Tambov, Russia  E-mail:      klg@tixmcnit.tambov.su 
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: kyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kris Young)
Subject: RE: Copycats...
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 07:14:58 GMT

Whoever said that Megadeth's new album was supposed to have copied Metallica's
why don't you take it home and listen to it.  Personally, I think it beats the
shit out of the 'Black' album, but that's my opinion.  Does anybody else out
Does anybody out there like 'Countdown to Extinction' as much as I do, or am
I full of shit?
Comment/flame away!

Kris
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: roy@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Roy Jezmajian)
Subject: Re: Where can I find "Breadfan"?
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:29:22 GMT

In article <vidaros.24.724413724@dhhalden.no> vidaros@dhhalden.no (VIDAR OLAF SOLBERG) writes:
>
>It is also on the CD "So What?" - which is a collecting of the singles:
>	One
>	Harvester Of Sorrow
>	Jump In The Fire
>	Eye Of The Beholder
>	(Am I right??)
>
>"So What?" also includes 'The Prince'! But I think the CD is pretty rare!?

Could you tell me more about this "So What" CD?  For instance:

-Is is a legit release or a bootleg?

-Is it an import?

-Does it contain all the tracks from those singles or just the "B-sides"?


Any other important info would also be appreciated.

Thanx,
Roy

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   | \/ |  |_  | _  /_\  | \  |_   |   |---|      gets it any way she can
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: luxo@titan.ucc.umass.edu (The Supreme Oyster)
Subject: Re: GNR...Thanks
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:00:45 GMT

In article <1g2u8kINN9tb@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> dcarter@supra.East.Sun.COM writes:
>Thanks for the GNR info, sounds like from the majority I am in for 
>a bad time. I wish I knew who is opening up for them. maybe I will get
>lucky and they will cancel. BTW... they will be here Feb. 28th.

i heard somewhere (radio?  tv?  magazine?) that gnr's opener
would be the brian may band.  for those who don't know, brian
may is the former lead guitarist of queen.

-luxo-
From: venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: NEW : QUESTION BEST VOICE
Date: 19 Dec 92 16:25:46 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

BRUCE made 3 albums w/ Samson.
Before HEAD ON there were SURVIVORS.

Before SAMSON Bruce used to sing with disco bands. No bull...

--Leonid
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:28:45 EST
From: <REG113@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject:    Cult Ceremony...

     The general concensus seems to be that Ceremony by The Cult was a
disappointment...I'm partially in agreement, but how about Earth Mofo,
Woderland, White, and If?  IMO those songs were great and saved the
album.
     When Clinton spoke on election night and played Fleetwood in the
background, I thought "If" would have been perfect!!!
     Any thoughts?
                                                     -Robb
                                                      reg113@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: kbibb@maui.qualcomm.com (Ken Bibb)
Subject: Re: Marillion
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 03:38:48 GMT

In <1g4haoINNndp@taloa.unice.fr> pigli@taloa.unice.fr Marillion are the best writes:


>Hi ,all progressive people !!!
>I've got some help because i'm trying to find MARILLION's images but without succes.
>If someone want to lead me in my quest ....

>Thanks and hold on Rock Progressive.

Try ftp.uwp.edu somewhere under /pub/music.  There were a couple of images.
There will also be some available soon via the freaks mailing list.

-- 
Ken Bibb                "he heard the snow falling faintly through the
kbibb@qualcomm.com	 universe and faintly falling, like the descent of
jester@crash.cts.com     their last end, upon all the living and the dead."
				--"The Dead", James Joyce

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: 4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (John LaRocque)
Subject: Geoff Tate sings on forgotton album! (Queensryche alert!)
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 01:33:14 GMT

     I just remembered this video that I saw a couple of months ago
on MuchMusic's Power 30. It was a video called Stars from Hear'n'Aid.
And guess who sung on this song........... Geoff Tate of Queensryche.

This video and single was made for some cause that I don't remember. Come
to think of it, there IS an album, and all the metal stars of 1985 are
on it, including: Rob Halford, Ronnie Dio, Dee Syder and the guy from 
Quiet Riot. And of course, Geoff Tate.

Folks, this is EARLY Queensryche. Hunt down this album now. It is
called Hear'n'Aid and the lead track is called Stars. Pre-hairsprasy
Tate is on this baby - and as far as I know - there is no video for
retail, but you can still get the album (I saw it a week ago, but
short for cash, waited and it was gone....).

It's the Heavy Metal WE ARE THE WORLD!

Anyways... happy hunting!


--- 

John P. LaRocque
vader@uwo.ca
University of Western Ontario
London, Ontario


"Urk..urk..."
"Apology accepted, Captain Needa", Darth Vader
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:50:18 EST
From: Young Indy <EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Dream Theater in Pittsburgh

    Due to the large amounts of mail I have been receiving, I will just post
all I know about DT coming to Pittsburgh PA. They are coming to Metropol on
Friday January 15. That's all I know. I don't even know how much tickets are
or anything, sorry. If I find out soon, I'll post it.

                                     -Ed

   ====================================================================
               Edwin 'Big Ed' Weiland - EMW107@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
              Architectural Engineering; Penn State University
       "Have we lost our balls, do we just not care?"   -- Marillion
   ====================================================================
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:01:09 EST
From: Young Indy <EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Dream Theater: Petrucci question..

    When I first bought DT's I&W, the name Petrucci seemed to be SO familiar
to me. A friend of mine said the same, so I figured I would see what other
bands he may have played lead guitar for.  Is there another Petrucci out in
the music industry that I may be thinking of?
    Also, I'm going to see DT on January 15th in Pittsburgh. How long of a set
do they play? Also, how much of the new and old do they play, because I
currently have just I&W, and am working on getting a copy of "When the Day &.."
Just curious....thanks in advance.

                                     -Ed

   ====================================================================
               Edwin 'Big Ed' Weiland - EMW107@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
              Architectural Engineering; Penn State University
       "Have we lost our balls, do we just not care?"   -- Marillion
   ====================================================================
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:27:11 EST
From: Young Indy <EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Dream Theater: Tour dates anyone??

   Just wondering if Dream Theater is planning on swinging on through the
Pittsburgh area soon. I see they are hitting Jersey and New York, and I really
would love to see 'em live. Can anyone help me out?
   If so, please e-mail me since my mail server has been acting up lately...
thanks...


                                     -Ed

   ====================================================================
               Edwin 'Big Ed' Weiland - EMW107@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
              Architectural Engineering; Penn State University
   "Oh, His children smile because they know He loves them." -King's X
   ====================================================================
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: mitchell@unlv.edu (Mitchell Flatebo)
Subject: Suicidal Tendencies
Organization: UNLV Computer Science
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 17:09:11 GMT

In article <alwalsh.724068488@unix1.tcd.ie> alwalsh@unix1.tcd.ie (Andreas Walsh) writes:
>In <1992Dec7.211253.23367@greco-prog.fr> bonnefoi@taliesin.greco-prog.fr (bonnefoi Pierre-Francois) writes:
>
>>I want to find better Thrash, more musical than Napalm Death ...
>>It better looks noises ...
>
>How about Suicdal Tendencies, their sort of heavy metal/thrash, pretty
>excellent (lights/Camera/Revolution, Suicidal Tendencies are pretty wow
>, but I haven't heard the new on yet. Anyone heard it?)
>
>Andreas

I don' know if this is the correct group for this type of stuff. But anyway,
I do have the new Suicidal Tendencies album. The first time I listened to
it I didn't like it a lot, but after I listened to it a few times I started
to like it a great deal. Every album they put out is different from every
other album. It may not be thrash like some of their other stuff, but I
think it is an excellent album. The Art of Rebellion (album name) is a must
have if you are a ST fan. My favorite song is one of the slower ones on
the album (Nobody Hears). The lyrics are excellent. Anyway, this is all my
opinion of course.

mitchell
mitchell@longhair.cs.unlv.edu
Xref: sparky alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive:428 alt.rock-n-roll.metal:12413
From: donnell@eel.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Dream Theatre's singer (new fan wants info)
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:59:53 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.230924.1@uwovax.uwo.ca> 4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (John LaRocque) writes:
>In article <8DEC199214074460@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu>, ntruelove@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (STEP OUT OF THE CAR PLEASE) writes:
>
>
>     I need the following information: the complete discography of
>both Fates Warning AND Dream Theatre plus information on musicians in
>both groups. After Queensryche (earlier stuff), these guys are the
>best metal "progressive" bands today. And I want to complete my record
>collection. So please, forward me the appropriate information, especially
>regarding Dream Theatre. They are just great. Post it or e-mail it, 
>I don't care. I want it anyways.    
>
> 
>-- 
>
>John P. LaRocque
>vader@uwo.ca
>University of Western Ontario
>London, Ontario
>
>

Why am I the guy who always comes up with this:

Dream Theater

When Day and Dream Unite 
<Mechanics Records>
Guitar : John Petrucci
Drums: Mike Portnoy
Keyboards: Kevin Moore
Bass: John Myung
Vocals: Charlie Dominici
 Hard to find now, but hardly impossible. Columbia House had the disc as a
budget selection a few months back.

Images and Words
<Atco>

Same lineup, except Dominici is replaced by James Labrie.


FATES WARNING:

All on one form or another of Metal Blade

Night On Brocken
The Specter Within
Awaken The Guardian

These first three are not as progressive as later albums, but still quite
as adventurous. "Night On Brocken" is very Maiden-esque, but still points
to their future direction on some songs. 
They had a different 2nd Guitarist on "NOB" that I cannot remember, but
the line up on the other two is:

Guitar: Jim Matheos
Vocals: Jon Arch
Guitar: Frank Aresti <came in on The Specter Within>
Bass: Joe Dibiase
Drums: Steve Zimmerman

No Exit

Arch left and was replaced by current vocalist Ray Alder. Really started to
move to a more progressive approach. Sidelong conceptual piece: "The
Ivory Gate Of Dreams". Excellent album, with fantastic classical guitar.

Perfect Symmetry
Parallels

Zimmerman leaves on drums, replaced by the amazing Mark Zonder. Zonder
sets new standards for percussion on PS's "At Fates Hands". 
Perfect Symmetry is a somewhat depressing album, but top notch! Very
progressive, but still metal.
"Parallels" sees them integrating their experiments moe into the song
structures. Shorter songs, but packed with the sort
of musicianship and drama we have come to expect.

Enjoy!
Pax
					--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: rglass@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Raymond Glass)
Subject: Dream Theater in Boston
Keywords: show on 12/16
Organization: Northeastern University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:46:21 GMT


Dream Theater is playing at Axis tommorow night (12/16). Tix are seven
bucks and are only being sold at the door. Several friends who saw them
when they played here last tell me they put on a killer performance. Not
a show to be missed!

-Ray
-- 
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: veburst@contra.enet.dec.com (KSV)
Subject: Re: Dream Theater: Petrucci question..
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:01:06 GMT


In article <92351.140110EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu>, EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu (Young Indy) writes...
> 
>    When I first bought DT's I&W, the name Petrucci seemed to be SO familiar
>to me. A friend of mine said the same, so I figured I would see what other
>bands he may have played lead guitar for.  Is there another Petrucci out in
>the music industry that I may be thinking of?

	I've wondered the same thing... sorry, but I don't have the answer...
but you're right... his name *does* seem awfully familiar!!

>    Also, I'm going to see DT on January 15th in Pittsburgh. How long of a set
>do they play? Also, how much of the new and old do they play, because I
>currently have just I&W, and am working on getting a copy of "When the Day &.."
>Just curious....thanks in advance.
> 
	In the two shows I've seen them play (just got back from a show about a
half hour ago!), they play all the songs from I&W, and a few from WD&DU... the
Ytse Jam is the most recognisable off WD&DU... (at least for me).  Tonite's
show ran about 1 hour and 45 minutes (including the encore).

	They are definitely worth seeing more than once live!  I'm going to see
them again in January... can't wait... I just hope the crowd is a little less
violent than the folks who were at tonite's show... 

-- KSV
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Cult Ceremony...
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:45:35 GMT

In article <92351.162845REG113@psuvm.psu.edu> <REG113@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>     The general concensus seems to be that Ceremony by The Cult was a
>disappointment...I'm partially in agreement, but how about Earth Mofo,
>Woderland, White, and If?  IMO those songs were great and saved the
>album.
>     When Clinton spoke on election night and played Fleetwood in the
>background, I thought "If" would have been perfect!!!
>     Any thoughts?

If I were to be a political figure, I'd chose "Masked Jackal" by Coroner. That
would be something to make people wonder. 

philip

Philip Wang                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Memories persist, succubus I've kissed, my thoughts remiss, I'll lose my brain
 if you don't wake me" - Defenestration, "Battle Of The Hemispheres"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Dream Theater: The YTSE JAM
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:37:52 GMT

In article <1gl3sqINNo19@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> S_TILLENBURG@iravcl.ira.uka.de (|S| Stephan Tillenburg) writes:
>Hi Dream Theater fans
>I was always wondering what a strange title The YTSE JAM is.
>Read it backwards and remember the Demo.
>
>Bye Stephan

Well, they were called "Majesty" way back when...

Pax
					--Judex--

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