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From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Re: Shepherd Moons as concept album?
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:36:39 GMT

dimmen@hsr.no (Kjetil Dimmen) writes:

>In article <1992Sep30.071624.13294@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, crgoc@orlando.uk.cray.com (Gary O'Connor) writes:
>> In article <1992Sep30.003937.6950@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mritchie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie) writes:
>> |> Perhaps this issue has been addressed before, but at least no one
>> |> can say I'm not trying to change the focus of the last few
>> |> weeks worth of threads.
>> |> 
>> |> Is there any way in which Shepherd Moons could be seen as a
>> |> concept album?  One tiny thing makes me ask this--at the beginning
>> |> of Evacuee, there is a "false" opening which consists of a couple
>> |> of bars of Marble Halls, interrupted by what sounds like thunder.
>> |> Then follows Evacuee, then Lothlorien, *then* Marble Halls.  I can't
>> |> really find a common theme among the songs (at least the ones with
>> |> English lyrics), but I have noticed that the Caribbean Blue video
>> |> is quite obviously influenced by children's literature, most notably
>> |> the illustrators Chris van Allsburg and Maurice Sendak.
>> |> 
>>    I SEEM TO REMEMBER LOTHLORIEN BEING A FOREST FROM LORD OF THE RINGS
>>     OR WAS IT SOME OTHER FANTASY EPIC.

>	Correct.

    I concur.

>> 
>> |> The lyrics to Evacuee are about feeling like a child again (with
>> |> attached feelings of happiness and melancholy) and Marble Halls
>> |> (from an old Irish operetta?) could be read as a child's fantasy
>> |> inspired by reading tales of knights and romance.  Any
>> |> suggestions?  If you don't want to post, e-mail me; I am
>> |> sincere about this.
>> |> 
>> |> --Michael
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>>  Gary O'Connor (crgoc@uk.cray.com) :)-8

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From: crgoc@orlando.uk.cray.com (Gary O'Connor)
Subject: Re: "Book of Days"
Organization: Cray Research (UK) Ltd
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 02:11:17 GMT
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 ones in gaelic the other isn't
-- 

 Gary O'Connor (crgoc@uk.cray.com) :)-8
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From: jil@linus.mitre.org (Jon Leivent)
Subject: Re: Shepherd Moons as concept album?
Organization: Research Computer Facility, The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:37:44 GMT


Another indication that Shepherd Moons is a "concept" album is the
openning to Caribbean Blue, which is worded like a verse from Afer
Ventus (and even mentions Afer Ventus).  However, a theme of childhood
would be omitting songs like Angeles, How Can I Keep From Singing, and
On Your Shore.  I think if there is any theme in the album, it is the
expression of Enya's own life and personality (loving of family,
nostalgic of youth, spiritual, compassionate, etc.).

-- Jon Leivent
From: sun@bcars6a2.bnrottawa (Frank Kannemann)
Newsgroups: alt.music.enya
Subject: Caribean Blue Theme? (was Re: Shepherd Moons as concept album?)
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:23:53 GMT
Reply-To: sun@bcars6a2.bnrottawa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.

Hi,

I just got the "Moon Shadows" video compilation (on Laser Disc) and really
enjoyed it!

But I had a hard time reconciling the words, the music and the imagery.
Based on the music notes someone else posted still didn't help.

I guess I was hoping for a deep :-) message in the work. Which I guess
isn't there.

What I am trying to say is that she doesn't seem to trying to comunicate
anything deep intellectually but rather emotionally.

Any thoughts...:-)

Frank

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From: yxl5388@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Fractalman)
Subject: Re: Shepherd Moons as concept album?
Originator: yxl5388@ultb
Organization: Imperial Klingon Fleet
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:01:57 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.002450.1139@ultb.isc.rit.edu> wet2006@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>Ug..why does everyone have to post the whole last 20 letters every time they
>want to say a singel word??
>I don't have a fast computer, and it is slow and annoying to re-read the 
>same posts again, and again just to see some joker put in one word and 
>think its funny...

Because if you dont' quote the last messages no one would know what
you're talking about. Like in this case.

-Fractalman


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From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Re: Last of the Mohicans
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:39:10 GMT

rod@cats.ucsc.edu (Rodrick Su) writes:

>	The song 'I Will Find You' by the Clannads is used rather
>	effectively in this film.

Sticks out like a sore thumb in this turd of celluloid.  Thrown in so they
could make a music video out of it.
-- 
	"Oh, save me from these pale green pants with nobody inside!"

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From: pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen)
Subject: Re: Enya Live?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:27:48 GMT

watpod83@alfred.carleton.ca (Robert Telka) writes:

>I've heard that it is quite difficult for Enya to actually perform
>live, since she is essentially a 'one-woman-band' (politically
>correct?).  In the recording studio she performs her own background
>chorous overlays.

>However, I don't think that this should really influence her not to
>perform live.  With today's technology, she should easily overcome
>this difficulty.

>Any insights?

	Many major artists sing most or all of their background vocals
in recordings and then have no problem going on tour.  Most either use
recordings or more often background singers.  Some singers that do this
are Michael Jackson, George Michael and Billy Joel.

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From: dimmen@hsr.no (Kjetil Dimmen)
Subject: Re: Enya
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 11:46:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.032146.9211@sfu.ca>, clarkec@fraser.sfu.ca (David Gordon Clarke) writes:
> While down in the US a week or so ago, I took a flip through
> that big book that is omni-present in record stores, you know, the
> one that lists all available releases by a particular artist, or
> who is on a particular record...
> 
> anyway, when I looked under Enya, there was "Enya", "Shepard Moons", and
> "Watermark"...but there was also "Polar Shift".
> 
> The entry went like:
> 
> Polar Shift (VA):PVM (CD) 2083-2-P
> 
> Any inklings as to what this is?
> 
> Dave.

	Polar Shift: A various artists recording including
			Yanni, Suzanne Ciani, Enya, Kitaro & Vangelis.
			What's on it?
			Haven't got a clue, but I know where you can
			get it from if you want it.

	D.

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From: watpod83@alfred.carleton.ca (Robert Telka)
Subject: Enya Live?
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:23:08 GMT

I've heard that it is quite difficult for Enya to actually perform
live, since she is essentially a 'one-woman-band' (politically
correct?).  In the recording studio she performs her own background
chorous overlays.

However, I don't think that this should really influence her not to
perform live.  With today's technology, she should easily overcome
this difficulty.

Any insights?

Robert Telka

Carleton University
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada


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From: wet2006@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Shepherd Moons as concept album?
Reply-To: wet2006@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:24:50 GMT

Ug..why does everyone have to post the whole last 20 letters every time they
want to say a singel word??
I don't have a fast computer, and it is slow and annoying to re-read the 
same posts again, and again just to see some joker put in one word and 
think its funny...

As far as the lord of the rings reference, it is true, and there was discussion about it earlier this year...
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From: dimmen@hsr.no (Kjetil Dimmen)
Subject: Re: Shepherd Moons as concept album?
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:09:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.071624.13294@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, crgoc@orlando.uk.cray.com (Gary O'Connor) writes:
> In article <1992Sep30.003937.6950@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mritchie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie) writes:
> |> Perhaps this issue has been addressed before, but at least no one
> |> can say I'm not trying to change the focus of the last few
> |> weeks worth of threads.
> |> 
> |> Is there any way in which Shepherd Moons could be seen as a
> |> concept album?  One tiny thing makes me ask this--at the beginning
> |> of Evacuee, there is a "false" opening which consists of a couple
> |> of bars of Marble Halls, interrupted by what sounds like thunder.
> |> Then follows Evacuee, then Lothlorien, *then* Marble Halls.  I can't
> |> really find a common theme among the songs (at least the ones with
> |> English lyrics), but I have noticed that the Caribbean Blue video
> |> is quite obviously influenced by children's literature, most notably
> |> the illustrators Chris van Allsburg and Maurice Sendak.
> |> 
>    I SEEM TO REMEMBER LOTHLORIEN BEING A FOREST FROM LORD OF THE RINGS
>     OR WAS IT SOME OTHER FANTASY EPIC.

	Correct.

> 
> |> The lyrics to Evacuee are about feeling like a child again (with
> |> attached feelings of happiness and melancholy) and Marble Halls
> |> (from an old Irish operetta?) could be read as a child's fantasy
> |> inspired by reading tales of knights and romance.  Any
> |> suggestions?  If you don't want to post, e-mail me; I am
> |> sincere about this.
> |> 
> |> --Michael
> 
> -- 
> 
>  Gary O'Connor (crgoc@uk.cray.com) :)-8

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#  or women superior to men,               Rogaland University Centre (HSR)  #
#  how come they waste so much                                               #
#  time and energy putting                                                   #
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From: justin@mik.uky.edu (justin sullivan)
Subject: Re: Caribean Blue Theme? (was Re: Shepherd Moons as concept album?)
    <1992Sep30.182353.14714@bcars6a8.bnr.ca>
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:28:07 GMT

In <1992Sep30.182353.14714@bcars6a8.bnr.ca> sun@bcars6a2.bnrottawa (Frank Kannemann) writes:


>I guess I was hoping for a deep :-) message in the work. Which I guess
>isn't there.

You noticed that too, eh? Well, with that (and some other sorted discussions
here), I'm almost ready to write Enya's music off as just expression and
not meaning. Nothing wrong with that, of course.. It's very enjoyable
music, just not real deep. :)
From: nikita@cherokee.EBay.Sun.COM (Nikita Motalygo)
Newsgroups: alt.music.enya
Subject: Re: Sarah McLachlan
Date: 29 Sep 1992 01:15:32 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: nikita@cherokee.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: cherokee.ebay.sun.com

	Hear! Hear!





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From: pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen)
Subject: Re: In Concert
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:40:24 GMT

farrell@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (christopher k farrell) writes:

>	On a secondary note, I find it somewhat depressing (but only somewhat)
>that most people seem to concentrate on Orinoco Flow and Carribean Blue.  Nice
>songs, certainly, but she has other pieces with so much more power.  It's
>like listening to a Hayden String Quartet when you could be listening to a
>Beethoven symphony (or, my favourite comparison, a Schubert song).  Sure, it's
>pleasant and moving in it's own way, but there is so much more.

	I have to admit, the song that drew me to Enya was Orinoco Flow.  I
saw her perform it on ABC, 20/20 I think.  But I didn't buy any of her stuff
yet.  Then last year one of my roommate's brothers came over with Shepherd
Moons and I was hooked right away.  I bought it the next day and a month or
so later got Watermark, I still have to get the first one, what do people
think about it?   Back to what I was going to say though, Carribean Blue is
not one of my favorites.  In fact, I usually skip it when I listen to the cd.
My favorite songs are probably Angeles and How Can I Keep From Singing? .
	Consequently I then hooked my mother and grandmother (who's 70) on
Enya.  I bought the tape for my grandmother and then my mom bought it after
hearing it when I brought the cd home.  My grandmother really likes Marble
Halls since it was a favorite song of her's when she was a little girl.  In
fact, this summer I heard it in an old movie on AMC (American Movie Classics).
My friends thought it awefully strange that I knew the words to an obsolete
song in an old movie.


>	Here's what I think Enya should work on next (or, at least what would
>make me revere her for all eternity if she did):  a song cycle.  As far as I
>know, Schubert is the only one to have written serious song cycles, and I'm
>sure Enya could do it.  It wouldn't be Schubert-esqe of course, it would be
>Enya, but the form could be the same; instead of using German sources she
>could use Irish folk music and literature.  

	What exactly do you mean by "song cycles".  I don't have any Schubert
in my collection so I can't refer back to him.


>Enya is a little shakey on Marble Halls (just a little),
>but that is the only track I can think of where her voice wanders too far from
>perfection; 

	I just listened to it carefully and I wonder if she means to be a
little shakey because it's supposed to sound dream-like, sleepy even.			This song brings back nice memories to me of last spring, cooking
dinner, reading, talking with my roommates, etc.  We all (4 of us) liked
Enya so we had her on a lot.  It also reminds me of my grandmother (see above).

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From: hoyme@src.honeywell.com (Ken Hoyme)
Subject: Enya on ABC's In Concert -- TONIGHT
Originator: hoyme@darkstar.src.honeywell.com
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center, Mpls. MN, USA.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:37:18 GMT

I got a copy of USA Today at the hotel I stayed at last night.  In the
TV listings for tonights "In Concert" it says:

"Host Kenny Logins performs; Enya; Sarah McLachlan"

Check it out..

The official time is Midnight EDT.  Your milage may vary.
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From: pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.enya
Subject: Re: "Book of Days"
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:11:34 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Mike Jung <MDJ102@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>What's so different between the _Shepherd Moons_ and the _Far and Away_
>version of "Book of Days?" I have not heard the latter version.

The _Far and Away_ version has the actual line "Far and Away", while the
other says something else which I can't remember.
From: jordan@aero.org (Larry M. Jordan)
Newsgroups: alt.music.enya
Subject: Carribean Blue...
Date: 30 Sep 1992 21:21:30 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniblab.aero.org

I stopped by a local Mazda dealership last night to look over the new Mazda 626's.  
I can't begin to express my delight in discovering that they are available in 
Carribean Blue!   

--Larry %)
From: rod@cats.ucsc.edu (Rodrick Su)
Newsgroups: alt.music.enya
Subject: Last of the Mohicans
Date: 27 Sep 92 00:09:21 GMT
Organization: Tigana Restoration Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


	The song 'I Will Find You' by the Clannads is used rather
	effectively in this film.
-- 
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From: mike@maths.tcd.ie (Mike Rogers)
Subject: Re: Enya
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 00:56:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.004100.17748@javelin.sim.es.com>, tpehrson@javelin.sim.es.com wrote:
>i hope that you twits get as many schoolgirl giggles of delight out of this

You mean you don't find schoolgirl giggles incredibly sexy?
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From: js06+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jason Lee Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.music.enya
Subject: Re: Enya Live?
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:01:49 GMT
Organization: Senior, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

From what I hear, Enya doesn't just do all her own overlays, she records
different layers of music (so to speak), each one slightly different
from the last on each instrument. Since her music isn't just one person
singing with backup, this makes it next to impossible for her to perform
live. From what I've heard is that on those live performances which she
has given, she just mouths the words.


		Jason


A gentleman never strikes a lady with his hat on.
Fred Allen
From: ccsdra@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Dave Allum)
Newsgroups: alt.music.enya
Subject: Re: "Book of Days"
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:36:12 GMT
Organization: BUCS, University of Bath, U.K.

In the referenced article, MDJ102@psuvm.psu.edu (Mike Jung) writes:
>What's so different between the _Shepherd Moons_ and the _Far and Away_
>version of "Book of Days?" I have not heard the latter version.

The basic difference is that the _Far & Away_ version has an English lyric
whereas the original has an Irish one. 

In fact there are three versions of _Book Of Days_ as the single release of 
the _Far & Away_ version has a slightly different mix to that on the film's 
soundtrack album.
From: oub@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Dances With Wolves)
Newsgroups: alt.music.enya
Subject: Book of Days
Date: 3 Oct 92 19:29:08 GMT
Organization: The University of Arizona


Hi,

  I apologize if this questions has been asked before, as I just
  recently gained access to this group.
  Does anyone have the lyrics to BOOK OF DAYS, "Far and Away" version?
  Also, is the sheet music for her albums available?

  Thanks.


  Brandon
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From: gorf@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Craig Collister)
Subject: Storms in Africa II
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:00:37 GMT

Does anyone know the words to the elusive "Storms in Africa II"?
Are they just a literal translation of S.I.A. #1?

If you know them, please send them to me. :-)

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From: cfynx@eng.umd.edu (Sridhar P. Rao)
Subject: Re: Enya
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 19:20:07 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Originator: cfynx@jolt.eng.umd.edu


ho..

polar shift is a collective work by various artists (tadream, yanni, vangelis, steve howe,
..etc.) to raise funds for some environmental cause. it is a private music disc. enya
has a track or two i believe..im not sure but she may have done a colaborative work
with one of the other artists on it, i know that a few of them have. but dont take my
word for it.

cfynx..the analog kid
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From: jprins@cs.vu.nl (Someone)
Subject: Re: "Watermark" lyrics... pretty please?
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 17:30:30 GMT

ivy@camelot.bradley.edu (Ivelisse Atiles) writes:

>could someone send me the lyrics to Enya's album "Watermark"?
>(at least the songs in English)
>If not, is there an ftp site where i can get them?

cs.uwp.edu    /pub/music/lyrics/files/enya      watermark.

:-)
From: bm032@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kyle S. Wilson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.enya
Subject: Lyrics!
Date: 26 Sep 1992 13:33:39 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Does anyone know where I can find the lyrics to Enya's first
album (_Enya_ or _The_Celts_)?

-- 
				Kyle Wilson
				kywilson@apollo.davidson.edu
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