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From: dascoser.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:23:11 GMT

tfisher@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Tom Fisher) writes:

> >>_Backtrack_.  I had great hope for this film, considering the cast:
> >>	Jodie Foster, whom I worship.
> >>	Denis Hopper
> >>	John Tutturo
> >>	a few other famous people I don't remember, including Al
>                                                               ^^
> >>	 from Quantum Leap.
>          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>      That would be Dean Stockwell
> >>
> >>Lots of acting talent wasted in arguably the lamest screenplay on earth.
> >>Luckily, I saw this at home, on tape.
> > 
> > Hey! I just watched that a few hours ago on Showtime. I was disappointed
> > also. I kept sitting there thinking, "Why is Jodie in this movie? Did she
> > really need money, or what?" 
> 
> Could very well be.  When asked why he agreed to be in such a
> terrible (bad) movie as "Jaws III", Michael Caine said, "I was
> building a new house at the time and, frankly, I needed the
> money."

Slight correction, Michael Caine did Jaws IV, It was Louis Gosset, Jr. 
who had to endure being in Jaws III.

Dascoser
From: sprooney@unix1.tcd.ie (Simon Rooney)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Question on DELICATESSEN (spoilers)
Date: 27 Aug 92 00:55:00 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin


>Spoilers included below...!


>In the scene where the butcher tries to get the old lady to scream, there's a
>shot from above of the lady sitting on the stairs, grasping her neck and
>making funny noises. Then, there's a closeup of the butcher pulling his cleaver
>out of something (which is offscreen) as he tells her to be quiet.

>So what I want to know is, did he hack her in the throat, or did she die of
>"natural causes" (fright?) like the butcher said?

I always thought he'd hacked her. I don't think he'd stop to notice
she was dead... would you? >:) 
He wouldn't want to be seen as having killed the poor old bitch, now
would he?

SInm,o
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From: cc79+@andrew.cmu.edu (Carey D. Clevenger)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: REALLLLLLY bad embarassing movies
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:21:06 GMT
	<gunnarh.51@dhhalden.no>
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

NO WAY! Drowning by numbers is GREAT!

I saw it about two weeks ago. YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED to listen to the
DIALOGUE, you're supposed to find the NUMBERS!

See it again--this time, don't WATCH it for the PLOT--just look for the
NUMBERS.

Carey
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: reinstat@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Reinstatler)
Subject: Re: Eraserhead  ...You get a love letter from me...
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:55:02 GMT

I see David Lynch showing us glimpses of the truly bizarre
aspects of the ranges of human behavior.  Eraserhead, Dune, Blue
Velvet, Wild at Heart, Twin Peaks, and even the short series on
TV, On the Air all shared elements of DL's way of showing us his
view of the world.  You have to listen to the background as
well.  I found that I've had to watch his work several times to
even begin to get a small portion of what is going on.
Unfortunately, I'm also way behind, so it's time to go back and
start over with Eraserhead.

Frank Booth IS truly one of the most terrifying characters I've
ever seen precisely because I know someone (not quite as
violent) who can turn on his so called friends for no apparent
reason and it makes me wonder about this person I know.  Have I
seen the worst yet?  Scary.
From: wdao@aludra.usc.edu (Walter Dao)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Title of movie wanted ...
Date: 2 Sep 1992 03:48:12 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


I am looking for the title of an italian movie . It had a very famous italian
actor in it (Marcello mastroiani ?).

The action is taking place in Italy during World War II and the story is about 
the US soldiers and their dealings in a major Italian city. 
A few scenes that are sticking to my mind :

1) two tank drivers are dealing with an italian business man. As they are 
   dealing with him, their tank is being dismantled and pieces are taken away.
   As they come down back to their tank, what is left is just a wooden chair.

2) Prostitutes who to attract the soldiers wear a Blonde wig. (the wig doesnt
   go on the head, but is worn "below")

3) some soldiers are eating in a restaurant talking to the italian guy about 
   how scarce food/meat is and stuff like that. at the end of the dinner ,
   the italian guy using the bones left over from his meal , had reconstructed
   the skeletal hand of a human. (one of the US soldier even said something
   like "how did you make the finger nails ?)


					Walter

ps : not too many movies have all these scenes so it should be pretty easy 
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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Various stuff RE Aliens, Terminator, etc.
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:38:45 GMT
Followup-To: alt.cult-movies
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <92245.195439TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu>, TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu (Sime) 

> (By the way, speaking of cheesy underwater action movies, isn't the guy in
>  the Abyss the same one in Leviathian? The bald guy who looks like the captian
>  of the love boat, I mean.)

You mean the one that also looks alot like John Glenn the ex-astronaut?

He really has the right stuff to be a big star!  <Grin>  

Greg Bole                                    "The ants in the grass, they
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu                  were just doing their thing."
                                            Matt Dillon in _Drugstore Cowboy_
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Rutger Hauer on Tonight show
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:40:09 GMT
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

Saw Rutger Hauer on the Tonight Show yesterday promoting the director's
cut of Blade Runner coming out Sept. 11 ! I can hardly wait ! They
showed a clip - near the end, where Deckard is clmbing up to the roof.
From: ingria@bbn.com (Bob Ingria)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Brazil, Director's Cut (*SPOILERS*)
Date: 31 Aug 92 22:21:40 GMT
Reply-To: ingria@BBN.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com
In-reply-to: iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca's message of Mon, 31 Aug 1992 00:54:55 GMT

In article <iroderic.715222495@cunews> iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick) writes:
   In <67PBqB1w165w@unkaphaed.UUCP> phaedrus@unkaphaed.UUCP (James Hartman, Sysop) writes:

   >I finally saw the director's cut of _Brazil_.  Loved it!  The assembly line
   >sequence was absolutely brilliant.

   >At the beginning of the film, the "Universal" logo went across the screen; I 
   >thought 20th Century was in charge of the distribution of the "european" cut.
   >Anyway, should I write to Universal, 20th Century, or Somebody Else in order
   >to find out how to get this happy little film on video?

   Please, please do write (I swear I'm too busy).  How did you manage to
   see it?  I saw the Gilliam version (many times) when I lived in the UK and was
   really disappointed when I took friends to see it in Canada.

Which cut is the Director's Cut?  The version I saw in the USA during
the theatrical release ended with the protagonist back in the chair,
but omitted any reference to Jill being killed twice.

There was another, horrible cut, which was used when _Brazil_ was
shown on TV in the USA, which ended with the fantasy scenes of him
driving off with Jill and no return to the torture room.  (This was
even worse then it sounds, since even the fantasy scenes were editted
so they made no sense: one minute he was in a store, the next, he was
in Jill's truck.)

Incidentally, the book _The Battle of Brazil_, contains the script (or
some version of the script) including scenes that were cut out in
the various versions.

-30-
Bob
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A Lady and her Walrus)
Subject: Jack Palance (was Re: Hawk the Slayer)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 07:47:59 GMT

In article <mwojcik-310892130139@college23.sas.upenn.edu> mwojcik@pennsas.upenn.edu (Michael Wojcik) writes:
>For those who don't know, Hawk the Slayer is a D&D type adventure movie
>with a hero (HAWK), a witch, a giant, a dwarf, and an elf seeking to help
>a nunnery retreive their mother superior from the clutches of the evil
>villain (played by Jack Palance).
		    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
How many of this kind of movie has Palance made?  I know he was the heavy
in Gor and Outlaw of Gor (well, he had a smaller role in Gor, but they 
hyped it up on the box), and I seem to remember him in other fantasy movies
as the villain as well.

Anyone know of (or better yet, have) a list of the sword-&-sworcery movies
Jack Palance played the bad guy in?

The Walrus

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick)
Subject: Re: Buffy
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:58:44 GMT

In <1992Aug28.163454.21152@athena.mit.edu> stigmata@athena.mit.edu (???) writes:

>In article <1992Aug28.095512.9842@udcf.glasgow.ac.uk> ken@tcrystal.gla.ac.uk writes:
>>
>>Any word on "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" ?  
>>
>>When I was in the good old US of A a couple of
>>weeks back, some guys were talking about it and
>>it sounded as if it was destined to become a 
>>cult classic.
>>
>>
>>Yours vigorously,
>>
>>The Vicar
>i thought it was a very bad, very funny movie.  i laughed,
>i cried.  it was better than cats.  i'll see it again, and 
>again, and again...
>at least when i can find a $1.50 movie theater.
>and it just might become a cult classic.

>andy

I wonder if _Buffy_ counts more as a manufactured 'cult-movie' along
side other attepts such as _AlienNation_ (or was it _Alien_Nation_?).
_AlienNation_ was released alongside umpteen merchandising gimmicks
including trading cards and comic books (certainly not an uncommon
practice now).  The film quite self-consciously played with genres and
sought to emulate cult-films.  It had some cult following but it
seemed to be unable to sustain it.  I see this as analogous to the
'rip-off band' phenomenon in which the band's marketting forces make
the most of the fact that they can't play their own instruments.  The
most obvious example is, of course, _The_Sex_Pistols_ but with the
failure of _Sigue_Sigue_Sputnik_ it would seem it is no easy task to
manufacture cult status.  Anyway, time will tell...

Ian

I wnet to pay my respects to Pee Wee.
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From: mikeg@luser.UUCP (Mike Gallenstein)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,alt.horror
Subject: Re: Movie by makers of Re-Animator?
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:25:49 EDT
Reply-To: mikeg@luser.UUCP
Distribution: world
Organization: Lunartronic Information Service
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <1992Aug25.195420.4683@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, William Stocker writes:

> 
> Also, my "uncut" laserdisc of Re-Animator doesn't have the
> severed head doing cunnilingus scene.  Bummer!
> 
> --Will
> 

Say what!?!?!  Personally I would get my money back on that LD!  That had to
be one of the sickest, and most awesome scenes of the whole movie. :-)

--
"And I'm up while the dawn is breaking,  AMIGA __ uunet!coplex.com!luser!mikeg
 even though my heart is aching.         500  ///   Lunartronic Info Service
 I should be drinking a toast to absent  __  ///       Louisville, KY USA
 friends instead of these comedians."    \\\///         mikeg@luser.UUCP
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From: ahom@yingjow.tnds.bellcore.com (Allen Hom)
Subject: Re: Various stuff RE Aliens, Terminator, etc.
Organization: Network Data Collection Presentation and Processing Development
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 18:42:31 GMT

In article <92245.123133TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu>, Sime <TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
[stuff deleted...]
|> 
|> Michael Biehn (sp?)- Hicks in Aliens, Reese in Terminator (anymore I missed?)
also in the Abyss, another Cameron film.


|>     Question RE: Terminator-
|>     I counted around 20 or so cops (out of 30, I think) killed in the police
|> station massacre.  Do they mention anywhere else how many cops are supposed to
|> be in the place?  Or in T2, how many Arnie killed in the first movie?  They say
|> something about it, but I can't remember how specific it was.
|> 
In the scene where Sarah is about to lie on the couch to catch some Z's,
the Captain (forgot his name) tells Sarah she should feel safe, since there
are XX cops in the building.  I forgot the exact number, but 30 sounds about
right...
-- 
allen hom
Bellcore
ahom@tnds.bellcore.com
(908)699-5728
From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Movie by makers of Re-Animator?
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:13:17 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

In <1992Aug26.060135.12545@wri.com> andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek) writes:

>In article <1992Aug25.195420.4683@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>  
>stocker@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (William Stocker) writes:

>> Also, my "uncut" laserdisc of Re-Animator doesn't have the
>> severed head doing cunnilingus scene.  Bummer!

>Egads, what the hell good is it then??!! I never would've thought a  
>laser-disc release would be edited like that. Sheesh.

zounds!!
Indeed, that scene was legendary!
-- 
    / \      Reverend fnord                 | "King Kong died for your sins!"
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From: donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Movie by makers of Re-Animator?
Organization: none
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 01:16:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.195420.4683@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> stocker@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (William Stocker) writes:
>I saw a horror movie the other day that was billed as "by the
>makers of Re-Animator", and from what I could surmise it seemed
>to be in the same vein (if you'll forgive the pun).
>
>Anyone know the title of this movie?  Is it any good?  (I liked
>Re-Animator a lot, but Bride of the Re-Animator wasn't as good.)
>
>Also, my "uncut" laserdisc of Re-Animator doesn't have the
>severed head doing cunnilingus scene.  Bummer!
>
>--Will
>

The only two films I know of that used that as a Ad-line, were "From Beyond"
, another Lovecraft adaptation. Prettty good, but not Re-animator. the other was
"The Pit and The Pendulum", directed by Sturart Gordon. Haven't seen it yet,
so I can't tell you about it. but "From Beyond" is pretty good, and quite
fun. Hope this helps.

					--Judex--
From: mmaxwell@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Date: 1 Sep 92 22:58:07 GMT
Organization: UC San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: irpsws81.ucsd.edu

In article <1992Sep1.220244.27838@leland.Stanford.EDU>
shibe@leland.Stanford.EDU (Eric Schaible) writes:

>No contest.  STAR CRYSTAL.  This was the worst, cheesiest Alien rip-off I've
>ever seen.  If it hadn't been so laughably bad it would have been pure agony.
>
>And the alien!!  Ugh.  Stoopid looking, with two 'o's.  If E.T. had gone to
>a mule show and gotten pregnant, and then the offspring were dipped into that
>clear gelatin that they pack into tins of Armour ham...well, you get the 
>idea.
(stuff deleted)

I saw "Star Crystal" on an all-night study/Miller Draft/Donut holes jag.
I can't remember the last time i laughed so hard.  I came to the final
in such a good mood that i pulled my grade in the class up by a full
grade.  Thanks, Star Crystal, you saved my academic bacon =)
-------------------
Matt Maxwell
mmaxwell@ucsd.edu

"He took personality tests
 and stapled them to his lower lip" -- Stan Ridgway
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek)
Subject: Re: Movie by makers of Re-Animator?
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 06:01:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.195420.4683@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>  
stocker@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (William Stocker) writes:

> Also, my "uncut" laserdisc of Re-Animator doesn't have the
> severed head doing cunnilingus scene.  Bummer!

Egads, what the hell good is it then??!! I never would've thought a  
laser-disc release would be edited like that. Sheesh.

AK

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From: phaedrus@unkaphaed.UUCP (James Hartman, Sysop)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Brazil, Director's Cut (*SPOILERS*)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 15:31:28 GMT
Organization: Unka Phaed's UUCP Thingy

I finally saw the director's cut of _Brazil_.  Loved it!  The assembly line
sequence was absolutely brilliant.

At the beginning of the film, the "Universal" logo went across the screen; I 
thought 20th Century was in charge of the distribution of the "european" cut.
Anyway, should I write to Universal, 20th Century, or Somebody Else in order
to find out how to get this happy little film on video?
--
phaedrus@unkaphaed.UUCP (da sysop)
"They say travel broadens the mind/so I went over the falls in a barrel
I found the noth pole/in a field of ice/and in a land of dreams/I found you."
--T. Dolby (I Live in a Suitcase)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: 00njhavert@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Godzilla question
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:25:13 GMT


	Okay, I am eagerly looking forward to the "Charles Barkley vs.
Godzilla" commercial in September. My question is: Does Godzilla look 
this good in the news films? He looks awesome on the commercial clips.
His teeth look especially menacing.

Just expressing my love for the lizard king,

Nik
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: ckt4x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Curt Tsui)
Subject: Blade Runner Dir. Cut Date!
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 13:04:27 GMT

I just found out that Ridley Scott's director's cut of Blade
Runner is to be released on Sept. 11 (in 70mm in some areas!).
The trailer had no new footage though.
--
                               - Curt Tsui -
      			     curt@Virginia.EDU
   "Happiness might very well be a glandular condition." - David Cronenberg 
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 12:31:33 EDT
From: Sime <TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Various stuff RE Aliens, Terminator, etc.

1st:
    Don't know about anyone else, but there were a few vauge similarities
twixt Aliens and T1 that I noticed:
            -The guns they used in T1 didn't look like pulse rifles but
             somehow reminded me of them anyways.  Maybe it had something
             to do with the sound or look as they were firing.
            -At the end of T1, as Arnie's skeleton is being squashed in the
             thingy, the arm reaches out for Sarah and she turns her face
             away. In the end of Aliens, the Queen's mouth appendage shoots out
             for Ripley, and she similarly turns her face away (as would I in
             both cases).

Farfetched?  Probably, but things I noticed just the same and thought I'd bring
up for no good reason.

2nd:
    Ever notice how lots of the actors in Aliens, T1, T2, Predator, P2, etc.
frequently appear together in movies?  True fans probably know this, but if
you hadn't noticed, allow me to attempt to make some kind of "chart" here, with
actors names when I know them, character names when I know _them_, and descript
ions of character roles when all else fails:

Michael Biehn (sp?)- Hicks in Aliens, Reese in Terminator (anymore I missed?)

Bill Paxton- Hudson in Aliens, cop in Predator 2, coast guard guy in Commando,
             vampire in Near Dark, and, I think, punk in beginning of T1

Arnie- T1, T2, Commando, Predator (too bad he wasn't in any Alien movie or this
       would be perfect...or was he?)

Lance Henrickson- Bishop in Aliens, vampire in Near Dark, cop in T1

Jeanette Goldstein- Vasquez in Aliens, mom in T2, vampire in Near Dark

Carrie Henn (?)- Newt in Aliens, and I _think_ she may be in T1 as a kid in
                 one of the dream sequences

black bald guy- Guy who gets scorpion offa other guy's back in Predator, bad
                guy in Commando

I'm sure there are a few I forgot. Feel free to add some or correct me where
I'm wrong.

I KNOW I saw the guy who played Gorman in Aliens in some other movie, but I
can't remember what it was right now.

3rd:
    Question RE: Terminator-
    I counted around 20 or so cops (out of 30, I think) killed in the police
station massacre.  Do they mention anywhere else how many cops are supposed to
be in the place?  Or in T2, how many Arnie killed in the first movie?  They say
something about it, but I can't remember how specific it was.

I feel like a geek for typing all this in, but I've been wanting to point that
out (all the actors working together) for quite some time.
At least I didn't say anything about the feasibility of a back-up dropship. =)

Sime (I've only seen Aliens 8 times; Forgive me, I am still yet a virgin.)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO)
Subject: Re: DUNE QUESTION
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:13:19 GMT

In article <sjurk.24@dhhalden.no> sjurk@dhhalden.no (SJUR KRISTIANSEN) writes:

>I've been thinking about buying Dune for quite some time now, but the 
>opinions over this film has been quite varied you might say...
>How is this film compared to David Lynch's other work? (I just love that 
>man!) - and is it worth buying??
>Cheers
>                          ___
I wouldn't know as I haven't seen it. However people who have say it's 
really bad for Lynch.

----Gunnarh
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From: dlangend@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Darryl M Langenderfer)
Subject: Re: JODIE FOSTER NAKED
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 12:19:47 GMT

        (stuff deleted)
>
>
>
>Did anyone see Entertainment Tonight's coverage of Hollywood sex
>scandals following the 'Woody and Mia' show.  You guessed it Polanski
>came up.  It was brief but it recounted the case as it has come to
>established in the news group.  However... no mention of Nastassia
>Kinski being the young woman envolved.  It seems to me that had it
>been Kinski, ET would definately have mentioned it.  Or is there some
>law which prevents their naming the woman?
>
>I can't believe I've been drawn into this...
>
>Ian

 I don't know about laws in naming the woman but I do know most (maybe all)
 states have laws about naming minors.

  --D.
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