HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mkwan@esk (Michael  Kwan)
Subject: Buster !!!
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 07:01:20 GMT


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 	You love it, I still got some more !



					Michael KWAN
					University of Tasmania, Launceston.
					<mkwan@esk.compserve.utas.edu.au>
					<mkwan@pieman.compserve.utas.edu.au)


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From: kwan@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Yik-Yin Edwin Kwan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: HK "roots"??  << was: "I love Hong Kong, too!  But why? >>
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:05:51 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

Last August on the returning flight from my summer holidays in HK, I met 2 
American Born Korean kids, a boy and a girl.  They were flying back to
their parents in Detroit, Michigan alone after visting their grandparents
in South Korea.  They were just 8 or 9 years old and I was pretty
impressed that they travel alone all the way from the USA to Korea and
back.  The boy was very talkative and was quite a funny companion.
Conversation follows:

Boy: "Are you Chinese?"
Me:  "Yes."
Boy: "Where are you from, China?"
Me:  "No.  I boarded in Hong Kong."
Boy: "So are you Hong Kong?"
Me:  (perplexed) "... Yes."
Boy: (perplexed) "Are you Chinese?"
Me:  "Yes!  I told you."
Boy: "Ha Ha Stupid!  How can you be both Chinese and Hong Kong ?!"
     ...

That was just a kid ...

(Angeline's post is one of the best I've seen.  As a sidenote, probably
no American has root except the Indians.  If you say Americans have roots,
those roots took 200 years to develop.  Hong Kong (British Colony) will
only be given 150 years.  Just 50 years short.  Romantic isn't it? :))
--
       (
       ))
      (  )	
     /     \		Yik-Yin Edwin Kwan
    (       )		kwan@ecn.purdue.edu
    /        \
   (   ^   ^  )		" Take me with you!
  /            )   ....   I would like to immigrate! "
 (       O      )
  \__         _/	(C) 1991 Edwin Kwan
     ~~-----~~
From: jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (James Lam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Two questions on bookstores carrying textbooks or reference books
Date: 7 Apr 92 01:15:37 GMT
Reply-To: jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (James Lam)
Organization: University of Melbourne

In article <1992Apr6.172050.25993@cs.yale.edu>, yip-ken@CS.YALE.EDU (ken yip) writes:
|> 
|> 1. If you have time to go to only one bookstore (since I plan only a 
|>    short visit), which would you go for more advanced books on
|> 
|> 	computer science
|> 	mathematics and physics
|> 	mechanical engineering
|>    
|>    I suppose the largest one is the best bet.

Go to:

(1) Cave Bookstore at YauMaTei ("Do Shuen" Street) off Jordan Road Pier.

(2) Hon Wing Bookstore at MongKok (drop at Mongkok MTR station)

(3) Man Yuen Bookstore near Jordan MTR station.


|> 
|> 2. Is it true that the international student edition books are made
|>    of low-quality paper that will turn yellowish in a year or two?
|> 
|> 	
|> 	

Lin Can
From: kokwok@ee.umanitoba.ca (julian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: HK "roots"?? << was: "I love Hong Kong, too! But why? >>
Keywords: Culture and People
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:02:57 GMT
Organization: Elect & Comp Engineering, U of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba,Canada

In article <60wj9+d.wongi@netcom.com>, wongi@netcom.com (Isaac Wong) writes:
> In article <1992Apr13.023548.17128@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> pkk36438@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Polygon) writes:
> >	Dynasty or something ).  The cause of such do-not-have-to-listen-to-
> >	lau-zone attitude can be contributed to the language barrier.
> 	^^^^^^^^
> 
> I know southerners call notherners "lau-zone", but what does it really mean?
> 
> just curious...

'lau' is old, and zone is 'elder brother' in cantonese it is 'lo hing'.

It is kind of Shanghai accent, I think.
From: onward@fsg.com (Onward Lam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk is screwed up?
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:35:13 GMT
Organization: Fusion Systems Group, New York City

wongy@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (XYZ) writes:
>they may find out that
>the host refuse to accept any telnet from remote host and ftp from 
>anonymous. Why? They provided this service before.
>	
>	As a important host in HK, in my opinion, the hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk
>should accept attempt from other people to its system. I am also so depressed
>that they also stop the ftp service to anonymous instead of improve it.
>

Well, what has happened in not very gruesome detail is that they have
probably started using the inetd.sec feature provided in HP-UX.
That piece of information is, of course, just a piece of data.

The matter is simply security:

Not allowing telnet to hosts outside their network is perfectly reasonable.
(I do it on mine.)

As for ftp, I don't think they are offering anything for download
at this moment,  so why should they let anybody in to snoop around?

The HP9000 at CU is an 850, if memory serves, a large supermini,
which probably makes it a file server and/or a general multiuser teaching
machine.

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From: liu@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Nga Kwok Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: WANTED: E-Mail address of HK Poly
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:01:31 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

In article <1230@schoenfinkel.cs.uwindsor.ca> liu7@server.uwindsor.ca (LIU  JOSEPH XUEFENG      ) writes:
>Hi Hongkongers and others,
>
>	I read one message asking for the same stuff couple of weeks ago, but I don't see any response about it. So I try to make this request.
>
>	So, tell me what the E-Mail address of the HK Poly is.
>
>	Any response will be appreciated.
>
>
>Joe 


The email address of HK Poly is

	hkpcc.bitnet
and	hkpcc.hkp.hk


Look, if you have ftp access right,  there is a list of most of the email
addresses of institutions in Hong Kong that exists in the network for our
general reference. Try the following procedure:

	ftp pit-manager.mit.edu

when connected, sign on under

	anonymous

skip the password requirement and get on the directory like

	/pub/usenet/news.answers

Then check on the files in this directory, there are heaps of it!
One of the files called

	hongkong-faq 

contains those information that you need.

You have to use

	get hongkong-faq

to fetch the whole file and then do whatever you like afterwards (eg. 
get a hard copy or view it using appropriate editor.

I hope the above hints will help those who like (but don't know
how) to get information available in the network.

James LIU.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: sl55050@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (SauWai )
Subject: Re: HK singers
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 00:37:14 GMT

I agree with Kwan in most of the singers he grouped..but what about Priscilla 
Chan and Lesile Cheung?? Anyway, I think we can add one more catagory...

Stage Performing Skill:
Anita Mui
Leslie Cheung
Sandy Lam
Grasshopper
May be Kwok Fu Shing since he used to be a dancer..
Sally Yip
.....it seems like there are not that many ..may be you guys out there 
can think of some...


Comments???

Sau Wai
UIUC


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: dennispu@vlsi.waterloo.edu (Dennis Pu)
Subject: Re: HK information request
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 23:55:43 GMT

In article <LAUB.92Apr4155549@laub.Software.Mitel.COM>, laub@Software.Mitel.COM (Boniface Lau) writes:
> >>>>> On 4 Apr 92 01:41:53 GMT, dennispu@vlsi.waterloo.edu (Dennis Pu) said:
> 
> [...]
> 
> Dennis> 'Mei Po' is a very nice place for bird watching, they set the
> Dennis> place up for observation of wild lifes there. And you'll have
> Dennis> guide to take you around. I had been there once while I was in
> Dennis> HK. However, 'Mei Po' is a restricted area, so you'll have to
> Dennis> apply before going.
> 
> The couple references to Mei Po sounded interesting. I have never
> heard of such place until now. Is it like a national park? I am
> surprised that Hong Kong can set aside a large piece of land for such
> purpose.  Any more details on Mei Po? What are some of the wild lifes
> in Mei Po?
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> --
> Boniface Lau    (613) 592-2122 ext. 3042    Boniface_Lau@Mitel.COM
> Mitel Corp.  				    
> 350 Legget Drive, Kanata
> Ontario, Canada, K2K 1X3

	'Mei Po' is a place close to the China border (?). When I was
there last time, I saw British army walking around. Also many places 
are fenced with high voltage bared wires to stop illegal immigrants.
So you are not allowed to walk around by yourself. If you are not accompanied
by a guide there, I think you'll probably be stopped (or shot :-)) by the 
british army.

	Except birds, there are natural mangroves. I think 'Mei Po' is the
only place in HK where mangroves exists. You may see some small creatures
there. (of course, don't expect to see large mammals except humman :-) )
However, I concentrated on birdwatching at the time I was there. 

Dennis

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung)
Subject: Vocalist - the fix of out-of-tone problem.
Organization: Tandem Computers
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 16:32:08 GMT

There is a relatively new (I think it is on the market for
less than a year) product called Vocalist which, according
to ad. as well as user reviews, can correct pitch IN REALl
TIME, in addition to do all sorts of modulations on the
voice itself. It has MIDI interface and other cmusic
staff. Leon's fan should get one for him, then everyone
should be happy from then on.

Steven
------
... This all sounds complicated, but it mostly does exactly
what you expect. It's just hard for us to explain what you
expect ...
				  - From "Programming Perl"

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: jleung@descartes.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: Re: Dip Shin -- Saucer spirit
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:45:48 GMT

>	I have never tried Disk-God so I can't comment much on this subject.
>But I do believe there is some  power which we cannot explain with our 
>daily knowledge. Whether that is just psychological matter or really some
>demon's influence, I don't know.  You have any suggestion?
>
>Peter
>
Peter, you are right to say Saucer's spirit is some demon's influence.
I've tried it before. The "spirit" claimed that it was a dead guy, and
what it could do is to tell you about your past and your future. But
it was lying right at the beginning, 'cos after a person dies, his/her
spirit will go to a place which is neither heaven nor hell, not even
can it stay on Earth and contact other living people. You can go to a
church and ask anyone there, they'll tell you exactly the same thing.
And you may now wonder what the "spirit" is. It's actually demon, one
of the follower of Satan. They are just trying to fool people that the
spirit of a dead people can still "live" on Earth.   
Talking about the power of those "spirits," knowing about one's past
is very very simple, at least he/she knows. But about the future,
they are just bullshiting. They are totally wrong, trust me, they know
nothing about your future. Again, if you wanna know why, go to ask
any christian around you. 'Cos, although they may not be experts on
this, they know more than you do.
By the way, if you want to get a clearer and better answers, try to
ask a church's pastor instead. I'm sure you'll be satisfied.

Joyce
From: liu7@server.uwindsor.ca (LIU  JOSEPH XUEFENG      )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: WANTED: E-Mail address of HK Poly
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:42:18 GMT

Hi Hongkongers and others,

	I read one message asking for the same stuff couple of weeks ago, but I don't see any response about it. So I try to make this request.

	So, tell me what the E-Mail address of the HK Poly is.

	Any response will be appreciated.


Joe 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: wkau+@cs.cmu.edu (Wing Keung F Au)
Subject: Re: I N S T A N T   N O O D L E S
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 04:25:37 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Distribution: usa


talking about instant noodles, does any one out there eat the instant
noodles from korea, extra hot?  back in my rochester days, i cooked two
bags at a time, with double the MSG, then boiled 2 bowls of water til
it became 1.  oh my god, it's soooooo hot!!!!   best for the freezing
nights!

I LOVE IT!!

-- 

				    FRed W. Au
				    ...!cmu.edu!au+, au+@cmu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: winky@vis.toronto.edu (Winky Wai)
Subject: Re: Dip Shin -- Saucer spirit
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:53:41 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.190240.4518@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> pkk36438@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Polygon) writes:
>	Believe it or not, a group of psychic researchers had actually done
>	an experiment.  They made up a fictious person's history.  They also
>	made sure there could not be such a person by coincident as they made
>	some obvious mistakes on "his" history background plus some not-so-
>	obvious contradiction on "his" personal life.  Then they tried to
>	"call" up that guy.  Of course, they suceeded.  A "spirit" claimed
>	that he was that fake guy, and that spirit reported  all the details
>	including the contradictions made by the researchers!
>
>	The conclusion is that some supernatural being can know who you want to
>	associate with and that being can mimic your expectation.  It is 
>	unreliable to believe the spirit you called up is the same guy you 
>	wanted.
>       

How did they "make up" such a person? Would it be they were just thinking about
that person when they call the "spirit"?
From: u9003703@cs.uow.edu.au (Yan Leung Tse)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Armani glasses, LV wallet, Dupont lighters...
Date: 15 Apr 92 05:25:28 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

mpoon@rose.uwaterloo.ca (Michael Poon) writes:


>I haven't go back to H.K for six years and just wonder what are the 
>"standard clothing" (brand names) that HK people are wearing now.  

>Category	"standard"
>--------	----------
>eye-glasses	 Still Amari? 
>pen, pencil  	"The Great Wall"  
>Jacket		"Temple ST" or "lo mil":
>shirts		"Double Swans" Rem: a huge collar (Kwan Do Lan ) is necessary
>T-shirts	"Daisy Brand" : Polo has become a "Mongkok"'s boys favourite
>Pants		"Parrot" or "Great Land"
>Jeans		fake Armani from "Temple ST" 
>shoes		White Rice Fish with lots of holes Rem: Green sole the best
>running shoes	"The Fire Torch"
>socks		currently wearing of socks is out of date
>underwear 	The possesion of a pair underwear is required by 
		the R.H.K.P.
>unbrella 	retractable black umbrella
>tie		design traced back to the 50s. Rebel without a cause
>belt		simply speaking, the  string provided by your pants
>wallet	        A $30 bargain from "Woman st."?

>Other		"standard"
>-----		----------
>cellular	The first generation "Motorola"  Dim: 8"x 2" x4" wt: 5lbs +
		Antenna: long enough for sword fightt
>watch		1st gen. Seiko digital watch made in 1972. 
Rem: old vogue prevalent
>raincoat	Bright yellow thick plastic raincoat with a lot of
		Disneyland characters Rem: Micky Mouse is the most
		popular
>napkins 	white table cloth with dirty stain stolen from any
		Chinese Restaurant
>swimsuits	Double Chimneies rem: from our great great mother country
>Dolls		Barbie dolls with Chinese characteristics
>Stationary  	Chinese products

>Any Idea?	
If you want to make you pals laugh, do follow the guide. No responsibility
will be accepted for whatever happened to you. Kidding mate!!!
>Michael Poon
From: ab0kfc@gdt.bath.ac.uk (K F Chow)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: HK & City Polys
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:53:39 GMT
Organization: School of Architecture, University of Bath, UK

Can someone be kindly to tell me what are the email
adresses to HK Poly and City Poly ?? Tx.
From: liu@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Nga Kwok Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Hotels in Toronto
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:38:37 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

In article <9204092252.AA10343@.euclid.uoregon.edu.> chao@EUCLID.UOREGON.EDU (Kung M. Chao) writes:
>US$70/nite. You are rich. 8-*  I never pay more than $50 for a
>room in hotel.  :-)



It would cost much cheaper if you stay in those places like YMCA, or
youth hostels.
From: fcc1@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Fat-Chi Cheng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Breathing Sound of Yo-Yo Ma
Date: 16 Apr 92 05:45:21 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester Computing Center

Being a little bit serious on this discussion, I listened to 
several recordings by Ma and by the cello master Rostropovich 
tonight and with special attention to the breathing-sound. 

I found that the breathing-sound may also related to how good the
sound engineers did in the recordings. Ma's breathing sound is 
really obvious in Boccherini's Concerto, but not so obvious in some
pieces in the CD "Protrait of Yo-yo Ma", and is hard to be recongized in
Barber's Concerto. Besides, I also found occasional breathing-sound in 
DG's Beethoven String Trios featuring Mutter, Giuranna, and Rostropovich.

The recordings(CDs) are:

1. Protrait of Yo-yo Ma (CBS) ADD,DDD
   a collection of Ma's recordings, with Haydn's Cello Concerto(ECO)
   and several short pieces.
2. Luigi Boccherini's Cello Concerto & J.C. Bach's Sym. Conc. (CBS) DDD
   Yo-yo Ma, St Paul Chamber Orchestra, Zukerman. 
3. Samuel Barber's Cello Concerto & Benjamin Britten's Sym for cello
   and Orchestra (CBS) DDD
   Yo-yo Ma, Baltimore Symphony Orchestra, David Zinman.
4. Beethoven's Die Streichtrios (Deutsche Grammophon) DDD, 2-CD set  
         Anne-Sophie Mutter (Violin)
         Bruno Giuranna     (Viola)
         Mstislav Rostropovich (Cello) 

Fat-Chi Cheng
with a low-cost Sony headphone(connecting to a Denon CD player) on my head
now.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan)
Subject: Re: Embassy question
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 01:22:03 GMT
Organization: PANIX - Public Access Unix Systems of NY
Keywords: embassy

>Just imagine that the US has an ambassdor to the UN in its own 
>physical country boundaries (in NY City).  Libya and many other 
>countries which don't have any diplomatic relationship with the 
>US also have embassies in NY City, but they are confined to within
>a short distance/radius within/from the UN.
>

You don't have to imagine.  The United States Mission to the United 
Nations  is located on 1st Ave. btw 44th and 45th street, directly
across the street from the  U.N. complex.  The Cubans (which have
no official relations with the U.S.) have a mission to the U.N., and
so does the Vatican.
My understanding is diplomatic personnel must reside within 50-75 miles
(I'm not sure the exact figure) radius of their Mission/Embassy/Consulate.


-- 
This is a test of the emergency signature file system.  Had this been an actual
signature it would contain my name, e-mail address, university, and probably an
interesting little quote.  Remember, this is only a test.
Henryc@panix.com
From: egeo17@castle.ed.ac.uk (M L Broadgate)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: I N S T A N T N O O D L E S
Date: 9 Apr 92 12:39:35 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Apr7.144541.14563@en.ecn.purdue.edu> yeung@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Augustus W Yeung) writes:
>The worst method to cook InstantNoodles is to let your girlfriend
>to cook IN in microwave. First, girls dont have any sense of
>measurement so they either put a lot or too little water (for
>my girlfriend, A LOT OF WATER). Second, girls dont have a good sense
>of how to operate electrical applicances so they spend quite some
>time to figure how to use the microwave. Finally, you end up with
>a bowl of STUFF in a lot of cold water.

Phew - some pretty heavy sexist stuff here!!!  Can I suggest a solution
to this problem which may shock all you guys out there....

COOK THEM YOURSELF!

maybe your girlfriend's apparent lack of ability to cook or use any
cooking implements (microwave etc) is just a subtle ploy because she
hates cooking and perhaps it's about time you did your share ...

Marianne
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: pl4262@csc.albany.edu (Peter Lau)
Subject: Re: HK driver licence
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
	<ALAW.92Apr14225047@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: 15 Apr 92 08:34:33

In article <ALAW.92Apr14225047@leland.Stanford.EDU> alaw@portia.Stanford.EDU (Alvin Law) writes:

>   You are allowed to use Int'l license in HK even if you are a resident
>   of Hong Kong.  The police might ask you a few questions but as long as
>   you can show your driver license from say the US you are fine.

Really? I have a friend some years ago (I think it's 6 years ago)
got into some minor accident. He is a resident of HK and he was
using the International driver license as well as the UK license...
He was charge "driving without a proper license" and the court
said HK resident always require a license from HK.

pete
From: yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 01:52:43 GMT
Subject: Re: When is Qing1 Ming2?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NSG-PWD, UK.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong

wangf@unixg.ubc.ca (Frank Wang) /  8:16 pm  Apr 12, 1992 /
In <1992Apr12.165040.4001@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> hyx1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Harry Y Xu) writes:

>>In article <!26t1r#@rpi.edu> leecj@cs.rpi.edu (Ching-ju Ashraf Lee) writes:
>>>Pat H. Yang

>>      April 4, 1992   :)   (not lunar calendar, of course.)


>We have Qing Ming for more than thousand years.  If it does not
>follow lunar (or Chinese calennar), what calendar does it  follow? And why?
>The term 'of course' does not sound clear to a fool like me.

sorry, Qing Ming is one of the day fixed by the movement of the sun, so it
is fixed at 4th or 5th of April in sonar calendar. In lunar, it is
different every year.