From: miket@hermes.tcs.com (Michael Turner nmscore Assoc.)
Subject: Re: Purity
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:29:20 GMT

In article <93012.023930SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>>[Mike]...<deleted>

>If I might my opinions speak from in, I neither think nor
>label so; 'tis none so sweeping as 'ok', but some small
>judgement concerning how fast the one on conclusions forms.

Hey, Graydon, you ever see "House of Games"?  Great David Mamet play,
made into a pretty good movie.  (But *don't* go see "Reservoir Dogs",
ugh, rivers of blood!)

>Gods rot your socks, a rant that wasn't, nor came it even close;
>if I a-ranting go, as strive me to refrain me from I do, it's more
>the case that I will half a dozen screens go on than but half of
>one!

You know, I think "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead" was Tom
Stoppard at his peak -- a kind of early deconstruction of Shakespeare,
when you think about it.  Never saw it on stage, unfortunately.

>Someone who is, to my mind, sufficently failing in politeness to
>ask me a 'what are you?' question in the first place can be justly
>expected to put up with having their chain lightly tugged on.

Sometimes I just want to curl up with a Raymond Chandler novel.
Anyone ever notice how much Chandler indirectly influenced William
Gibson?

>Nor do I stick people who splutter, accuse me of being a wiseass,
>or otherwise react negatively, in a bin of any description.  They
>do acquire a 'doesn't like me not ussing the social rules they're
>familiar with' label, but tied on, not glued on.  They could be
>having a bad day or have a five year old, gods know.

Or maybe I'm really thinking of Damon Runyan.  You know, he really
caught the poetry of the American petty hood class.

>Sir, what would you me have signified?  To but disagree you go on
>long, and long.

You know what I think is the most underappreciated Heinlein novel?
You'll never guess.  I think it's _Glory Road_.  Long build-up that
follows an almost-anti-hero through a stint in South East Asia
during the ramp-up of the Vietnam War, then to various ports of
call in the world, then suddenly plopping him into a great send-up of
E.R. Burroughs' hokey old Mars novels, spoofing every fantasy
genre you can think of.  The contrast is bracing.

>Asked for reasons, I gave them; maybe these your reasons aren't, nor
>to your practices in accordance, but what bond should I have to any
>custom but my own?

Hey, what's with Samuel Delany, anyway?  Seems like I've been waiting
for his sequel to "Stars in My Pocket Like Grains of Sand" for TEN
YEARS.  I guess he's got a lot of academic responsibilities now,
but really, a promise is a promise.

>I will own I go on long, more oft than not; a result it is of being
>much accused of loading metaphors until they if not break bog down,
>and being in my accustomed thought maintaining precepts less like
>(it seems) those whom I speak with hold than I would enjoin them be,
>if such ordering was mine to use.

Has anyone here read David Leavitt's _The Secret Language of Cranes_?
Pretty awesome stuff for a guy his age.  Oh, sure, Truman Capote
wrote _Breakfast at Tiffany's_ when he was, what, seventeen or something?
But THEN where did he go?  DOWNHILL!  Leavitt's getting stronger
all the time.  I'd watch this guy.

>I'm 'Them' to most, and home with none, and this road also my
>speach has run; it's not just les, or bi, or gay, whom their words
>might self betray to one or many whom regard all difference best dead.

On second thought, maybe Tom Stoppard is just a little too gimmicky
for real immortality.  Have to think about that one.

>Graydon
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>saundrsg@               "Praise then Darkness and Creation unfinished"
>   qucdn.queensu.ca                   - U. K. LeGuin

--Mike
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Michael Turner
miket@tcs.com

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