From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Stryfe calls Scott and Jean "father" and "mother"!
Date: 28 Sep 92 03:55:29 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <19um1aINNlh0@maico.ksu.ksu.edu> lazarus@maico.ksu.ksu.edu (Bart -Laz- Smith) writes:
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>In article <23SEP92.19005901.0089@VM1.MCGILL.CA>, CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP) writes:
>>Quite a headline, huh?  Nothing we didn't suspect though.  Fact is,
>>I've got X-Force #16 (printed today) right in front of me so you
>>better believe me when I say ...
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>>OK, Sam wants to talk as does Alex and talk they *do*, but Feral (who
>>they *obviously* have to get rid of) says "They're gonna attack ...
>>They're gonna attack!" and loses it (really stable is Feral ... NOT!).
>>A fight breaks out right away.
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>Well, they started it OUT right...
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>>The characterisation at this point is quite good.  Sam says "We're not
>>y'all's 'New Mutants' anymore!" which I suppose is what Fabian is giving
>>as Sam's motive for not simply giving in to X-Force et al.  Shatterstar
>>is *polite* to Wolverine which is a good way to underline his respect
>>for "warriers" like himself and Wolverine.
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>Shatterstar and Wolverine met in Wolverine #54 or 55 (it was a one-shot,
>filler-type issue, and Shatterstar actually had a personality!).
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>>Siryn is reluctant to fight Jamie but Jamie who was *not* the Jamie who 
>>was with her during the Fallen Angels series is no where near as reluctant.
>>Similarly, Rictor is surprised by Wolfsbane's ferocity.  Boom Boom is
>>easily outclassed by Rogue as is Warpath by Strong Guy.
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>The fight went to the more experienced mutants, looks like.
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>>Meanwhile, Sunspot seems rather defeatist.
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>Remember way back in the earlty nineties of the New Mutants series?  With
>Cable vs. Wolverine?  'Berto had that same attitude then also... something
>about seeing his heroes fighting each other.  Same situation, basically...
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>>Wolverine kills Shatterstar.
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>It's hard to say it, but it's proably just as well... they would have never
>developed his personality anyway.  :(

First of all, Shatterstar isn't dead.  No way, no how.  Second, I believe
that they will develop his personality (at least, to some degree).  Why
do I say this?  Look who's writing X-Force:  Fabian Nicieza (how in the
hell do you pronounce that last name?).  Now, dig up that issue of
Wolverine, and look up the writer.  That's right, Fabian Nicieza.  Odds
are, Fabian will develop his personality to some degree.

Now, if we can only get him to get rid of Feral.  Quickly.

>>So what would you do if you were Sam?  If you said "run like hell"
>>you're right!
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>>Cut to X-Men aboard a (not "the", Fabian) Blackbird.  We have an
>>interesting group here: Archangel, Quicksilver, Storm, Iceman, Collosus
>>and the Beast.  After leaving the Blackbird, Quicksilver does a *quick*
>>reconnaissance.  Not wanting to fault PAD but Fabian handles QS nicely
>>here.
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>>Briefly, the X-Men defeat the Horsemen *easily*.  This was as
>>Mr. Sinister expected for he left a message "...Apocalypse--
>>*unbeknownst* even to him--is still the cause of this madness..."
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>>Cut to Bishop and Sinister.  Nice Terminator II rip off in this scene,
>>typical X-Force.  New dangling plotline: Sinister and Val Cooper
>>recognize each other.
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>They met previously in a PAD-scribed issue of X-Factor, #72 or 73...

Wasn't Mr. Sinister Val's ex-husband, Edmund Atkinson, as well?  I
don't think Val knows this, but Mr. S does.  And I'm not sure if
Val recognized Mr. S.

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook