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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:38:51 EST
From:         Fred Goebeler <C0418@UNIVSCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Tape recorder

     I think Audrey caught the spirit.  The Secretary will need the
device once she returns to home base.  CUMREC can underwrite the
purchase and enter it into an "inventory" at the IO showing the location
to be the current Secretary.  Get one that will do the job and the have
the Secretary keep it.  This will clear up the issue of possibly having
to get familiar with a new device each year, worring about it being
dependable and suffering the now infamous fate of Al's first series
of Ballots. (Remember, the gorilla that hates suitcases worked for
Federal Express this past spring!)

      Oh yea, I also endorse the overall need for one.

                                                   Fred
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:24:05 GMT
From:         John Rathbone <J.L.Rathbone@GDR.BATH.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: willingness to communicate

 Hi Marla (again)

      I must admit that my first thoughts were roughly along the lines of:

  "Strewth!! Whatever next !! A flamin' Aussie INTELLECTUAL !!"

    John
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:22:19 ECT
From:         frank saraceno <PC0004@BINGVMB.BITNET>

    I would like to submit the following request for information to the
    list for a colleague who is not a CUMREC-L participant.  Any
    responses can be forwarded to the Bitnet address listed below.

    Thank you in advance for your assistance in this matter.



    Subject:  Key Card Access Systems

         Binghamton University is in the process of developing a
    Request for Proposals (RFP) for a key card access system to be
    installed in twenty individual residence halls.  We anticipate
    configuring a system which will allow for two key card access
    points per building utilizing proximity readers, with all other
    doors locally alarmed and monitored for status (locked, unlocked,
    propped, etc.).  It is intended that the system will later be
    expanded to incorporate other campus buildings, parking lots,
     etc.

         I am interested in contacting persons who have past
    experience or current knowledge in the development of
    specifications for bidding such systems.  If you or a colleague
    have such information, please send me your (their) name, address,
    telephone number and e-mail address.  Thank you.

          Lloyd M. Howe
          Binghamton University
          LHOWE@BINGVAXA
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:01:14 -0400
From:         KEN MAHARAJ <KMAHARAJ@ADM.DAL.CA>
Subject:      Re: willingness to communicate

------------------------------------------------------------
>How useful will this survey be? Won't it be biased towards those who SEND
>E-mail? I would expect few (no?) responses with the answer that they NEVER
>send email!
--
>Gavin Trigg     Internet: gavin@asis.unimelb.EDU.AU
>                Telephone: +61 3 344 6003       Fax +61 3 347 4803
>Data Base Administrator, Information Technology Services (ASIS),
>The University of Melbourne, Parkville, Australia.  3052.

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Indeed! Persons unwilling to communicate might be unwilling to
communicate that they are unwilling to communicate.   8-:

Ken Maharaj
Dalhousie U.
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:34:00 EST
From:         Joseph.DiMartile@MVS.UDEL.EDU
Subject:      Room Scheduling software

RE: Nadine's request for room scheduling software. Seems we're talking about
two (or more) different solutions.  There are certainly very good packages
available to keep track of what is scheduled and when, to find available
unscheduled space, etc.  What I've not been able to find is something that
will take 4,000-5,000 course sections of varying size and schedule them into
175 classrooms of varying size and with some constraints (location on campus,
classroom equipment, etc.)  This is a slow and tedious process that is now
done by hand on our campus.  With the right algorithm, this could be
accomplished in a matter of minutes.  And if I read Nadine correctly, this is
what she is looking for.  Is anything out there?

Joe DiMartile
Registrar, Univ. of Delaware
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From:         "lynda m. lewis" <LLEWIS@UNF1VM.BITNET>
Subject:      Room Scheduling Software

From: lynda m. lewis

will,
do you have anything in writing that explains your current room scheduling
software program...unf is considering schedule 25. we are a university of
9300 students and now handle 1100 sections manually...a nightmare..
my address is university of north florida 4567 St. Johns Bluff Rd. S
jacksonville, Fl 32216-6699. i am the assistant vp for enrollment services
and have only been at unf for two years...we are evaluating many new
student information data systems, etc. any advise ideas are appreciated.

lynda m. lewis
Enrollment Services
xx 2881
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:11:38 -0600
From:         "Kay Keskinen (208) 885-6721" <KAY@IDUI1.BITNET>
Subject:      Reply to: Elvin Hodges's request--registration

In response to Elvin Hodges's request for information about on-line
student registration systems, I offer the following:

1.  John Holcombe at The Georgia Institute of Technology did a survey
    last summer of institutions that have student access systems.
    The survey results are available through CUMREC-L.  I think the
    file number was CRIP001, but Joe Moore (our CUMREC-L listserv
    administrator) could provide exact details.
2.  The University of Idaho has both on-line and telephone student
    registration as well as on-line address updating.
    A description of the registration systems was presented at
    CUMREC '91 in Louisville, paper T4-2, co-authored by our Registrar,
    Matt Telin, and me.  Other CUMREC Proceeedings have papers
    describing other institutions' on-line registration systems.
    For past CUMREC Proceedings, contact the CUMREC International
    Office at the University of South Carolina; or if you want a copy
    of our CUMREC '91 paper, contact me directly and I will send you
    a copy of the paper.
3.  Let me know if you need more details.  Good luck.
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:54:00 PST
From:         Robert Paterson <PATERSON_R@PLU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Room Scheduling software

seem i've seen questions like this before? We use Universal Algorhythm's
"Schedual-25, seem to work very well. company was a bit flakey at frist
but have gotten better. They are in Portland Or.
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:23:49 EDT
From:         Pete Kearney <Z1@NERVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: willingness to communicate
              20 Nov 1992 08:01:14 -0400 from <KMAHARAJ@ADM.DAL.CA>

On Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:01:14 -0400 KEN MAHARAJ said:
>------------------------------------------------------------
>>How useful will this survey be? Won't it be biased towards those who SEND
>>E-mail? I would expect few (no?) responses with the answer that they NEVER
>>send email!
>--
>>Gavin Trigg     Internet: gavin@asis.unimelb.EDU.AU
>>                Telephone: +61 3 344 6003       Fax +61 3 347 4803
>>Data Base Administrator, Information Technology Services (ASIS),
>>The University of Melbourne, Parkville, Australia.  3052.
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>Indeed! Persons unwilling to communicate might be unwilling to
>communicate that they are unwilling to communicate.   8-:
>
>Ken Maharaj
>Dalhousie U.

I agree.  In these economic times many departments are short handed and
doing double time already.  Some folks don't have the leasure in their
busy production schedule to participate in such a survey.  Your survey
will certainly be biased.

Pete Kearney (Z1@NERVM.BITNET)
Computer Applications Coordinator
University of Florida
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:48:00 EST
From:         Gerry Bernbom <BERNBOM@IUBACS.BITNET>
Subject:      surveys on the list...

I've been surprised by the degree of disagreement with a
survey-request on the subject of e-mail.  We've all seen
surveys on this listserv before, and many more on other
lists we belong to.  This is a first, though, at least in
my experience, in which list-members are critical of someone
else's experimental design.

As with any novelty, I haven't got a ready response for it.

On one hand, it's positive that we care enough about our
colleagues to observe possible pit-falls and point them out.
On the other hand, such strong negative responses seem
intended to discourage participation in the survey...which
is fairly intrusive behavior compared to what I've seen on
this list before.

My own observation is that, whatever flaws were in the original
design of this survey, there now exists additional contamination
of the survey population as a result of the criticism broadcast
to all. (Those critical might say: So what, it was doomed anyway.)

But leaving aside the merits of the survey (about which I have no
strong feelings, and which I did set aside with something like
a 40% probability of ever getting back to)...what are some thoughts
about list behavior in this case?  I'm curious and would like to
hear from others.

Gerry Bernbom
Indiana University
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:21:46 PST
From:         Jim Case <CVDLEPI2@UCDCVDLS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Room Scheduling software

On Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:16:00 EST Nadine Stern said:
>Has anyone developed in-house a relational database room scheduling system?
>We are investigating packages as well as considering writing one ourselves.
>If anyone has written in-house, were there any major pitfalls which might
>prevent us from pursuing this direction?  Are the algortihms too difficult to
>develop as our vendor is suggesting, or is it just another major dp project?
>Thanks for any info you can share.
>                                  Nadine Stern
>                                  Rutgers University
>                                  908-932-5067
>                                  STERN@RUTADMIN.EDU
Please reply to the list on this topic.  we are interested as  well in a system
to do scheduling.

Thanks

James T. Case, DVM, Ph.D                 University of California
Administrator, Information Systems       School of Veterinary Medicine
California Veterinary Diagnostic         P.O. Box 1770
   Laboratory System                     Davis, CA 95617
cvdlepi2@ucdcvdls.bitnet                 (916)752-4408
           "If you can't do it right...Do it neat..."
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 10:11:43 +1100
From:         Gavin Trigg <gavin@ASIS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: willingness to communicate
              "BAILEY@edinboro.edu" at Nov 19, 92 01:12:06 pm

How useful will this survey be?  Won't it be biased towards those who SEND
e-mail?  I would except few (no?) responses with the answer that they NEVER
send email!
--
Gavin Trigg     Internet: gavin@asis.unimelb.EDU.AU
                Telephone: +61 3 344 6003       Fax +61 3 347 4803
Data Base Administrator, Information Technology Services (ASIS),
The University of Melbourne, Parkville, Australia.  3052.
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:16:00 EST
From:         Nadine Stern <T442329@RUTADMIN.BITNET>
Subject:      Room Scheduling software

Has anyone developed in-house a relational database room scheduling system?
We are investigating packages as well as considering writing one ourselves.
If anyone has written in-house, were there any major pitfalls which might
prevent us from pursuing this direction?  Are the algortihms too difficult to
develop as our vendor is suggesting, or is it just another major dp project?
Thanks for any info you can share.
                                  Nadine Stern
                                  Rutgers University
                                  908-932-5067
                                  STERN@RUTADMIN.EDU
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:12:06 -0500
From:         BAILEY@EDINBORO.EDU
Subject:      willingness to communicate

I am doing research for a paper on willingness to communicate and e-mail
usage.  The results should be interesting.  The results will be of
particular interest to anyone training e-mail users or encouraging e-mail
use.
Please take a few minutes to answer the following questions and return them to
me before Thanksgiving. Send your responses to BAILEY@EDINBORO.EDU

_________ On average, how many e-mail messages do you send each week?
_________ On average, how many e-mail messages do you receive each week?
_________ How long have you used e-mail?
_________ How many lists do you subscribe to?

Willingness to Communicate Scale (WTC)

DIRECTIONS:  Below are 20 situations in which a person might choose to
communicate or not to communicate.  Presume you have completely free choice.
Indicate the percentage of time you would choose to communicate in each type
of situation.  Indicate in the space at the left what percent of the time you
would choose to communicate. 0 = never, 100 = always.

____  1.  Talk with a service station attendant.
____  2.  Talk with a physician.
____  3.  Present a talk to a group of strangers.
____  4.  Talk with an acquaintance while standing in line.
____  5.  Send e-mail to a list of strangers.
____  6.  Talk in a large meeting of friends.
____  7.  Send e-mail to a stranger.
____  8.  Talk in a small group of strangers.
____  9.  Talk with a friend while standing in line.
____ 10.  Send e-mail to a list of friends.
____ 11.  Talk in a large meeting of acquaintances.
____ 12.  Talk with a stranger while standing in line.
____ 13.  Send e-mail to a list of acquaintances.
____ 14.  Present a talk to a group of friends.
____ 15.  Talk in a small group of acquaintances.
____ 16.  Send e-mail to a friend.
____ 17.  Talk in a large meeting of strangers.
____ 18.  Send e-mail to an acquaintance.
____ 19.  Talk in a small group of friends.
____ 20.  Present a talk to a group of acquaintances.
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:21:27 -0500
From:         BAILEY@EDINBORO.EDU
Subject:      Re: willingness to communicate

Thank you for your comments regarding the Willingness to Communicate (WTC)
instrument.  This questionnaire (minus the e-mail questions) was developed by
Dr. James McCroskey to measure willingness to communicate along several
dimensions.  It provides a total WTC score as well as subscores for Public,
Meeting, Group, Dyad, Stranger, Acquantance, and Friend.  Research by McCroskey
and others have shown the WTC to be both reliable and valid.  McCroskey gave
me permission to add yet another dimension to the WTC by including my 6
questions dealing with e-mail communication.  I am only surveying e-mail
users as I want to see if people scoring high (or low) on willingness to use
e-mail will score low (or high) on the other WTC scales.  And also, will people
scoring high on willingness to use e-mail with a friend also score high on
willingness to use e-mail with a stranger, and so on.

My hypothesis is that people scoring low on WTC will score high on willingness
to use e-mail.  In other words, a shy person will be more likely to use e-mail.
Also, I believe that people scoring high on WTC will score low on willingness
to use e-mail.  If this proves to be true, then those of you introducing
e-mail, or doing e-mail training may want to make some adjustments in your
training strategies.  On the other hand, my hypothesis may not prove to be
true.  It may be that people willing to communicate in one mode are also
willing to communicate via e-mail.  Who knows??  Whatever the answer, there
will be implications for e-mail users and trainers.

If you have already responded to my survey, thank you for your time.  I
really appreciate it and promise to share the results.  If you have not
responded, I really would like to include you in my research.
 Brenda Bailey
 Edinboro University of PA
 BAILEY@EDINBORO.EDU
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 10:12:16 CST
From:         hodgese@CCMAIL.WIU.BGU.EDU
Subject:      Student Registration via terminal

          Western Illinois University will be allowing students to
          register for classes via personal computer or terminal
          access through our campus computer network.

          We are interested in securing names and addresses of
          contacts at institutions who are currently allowing
          registration, schedule adjustments, etc. by this process.

          We are especially interested in security issues, user
          friendly screens, help screens, and other potential pitfalls
          you may have encountered during your registration process.
          Do you allow the student to register only, make program
          changes, drops, withdrawals, etc.?  Why or why not?

          Responses with names and addresses may be sent to our
          Registrar or myself.  Information can also be mailed
          directly to Alan DeRoos, Registrar, Western Illinois
          University, Macomb Il 61455.

          Thanks for your help.

          Elvin E Hodges
          Western Illinois University
          Administrative Computing
          212L Sherman Hall
          Macomb, Il 61455
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:27:06 EST
From:         GADDIEML@MUSC.BITNET
Subject:      RE: Room Scheduling software

Nadine,
No, we haven't developed one. But...have you looked at WP Office??  They have
a scheduler system that when used w/ Calendar works really well.  We are
running under Win3.1 and theirs is a DOS app so we're waiting on their new
version Feb '93 (hopefully) so that it will run properly.  But you can
schedule people as well as resources (rooms, AV equipment, etc.).  Thought
this might help, in case you haven't looked at it.

/sig
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 09:02:24 EST
From:         Trevor Garland <trevor@UMS1.LAN.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      Re: Request for data entry information

  McGill dropped a data entry mini a couple of years ago and switched to
PCs connected to a LAN using Key-Entry III software. Increasing
maintenance costs and declining support were among the reasons, although
we are wanted to introduce PCs to the data entry staff (then 7) for them
to begin learning new (non data entry) skills. This has worked very well
and is considerably cheaper.

  We have an Opscan 10 scanner for optical mark sheets used for exams and
surveys. We don't use it for time cards although it easily could do the
job. Data entry for surveys is declining as mark sense is cheaper and
easier.

  My advice is to dump the Pertec right away. There are several data entry
packages advertised in PC magazines at the back. We use PS/2 Model 30's
which were made available after upgrading systems staff machines. You
don't need anything better than an AT. We store the files on a LAN and
operations transfers them to the mainframe.

  We don't expect data entry to exist in two years due to on-line data
entry.


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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 07:53:48 EST
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Quote of the Day
              20 Nov 1992 07:55:09 -0800 from <djl@MAILHOST.PP.P DX.EDU>

On Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:55:09 -0800 <djl@MAILHOST.PP.PDX.EDU> said:
>Let's face it.  There are certain things in life which make life worth living,
>and one of these things is Python.  Especially to someone like me.  When you've
>gone through so much in life, and you're supposed to decide what is real and
>what isn't, you watch the television and you see all this madness going on,
>and everyone is being serious and accepting it, and you're ready to bang your
>head on the wall in despair -- then someone says "And now for something
>completely different!"  That saves the day.          -- George Harrison

George Harrison not withstanding, I prefer the =Goon Show=.
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From:         MM <mbm@PACSCL.UARC.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      Henry
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For the last five years or so, it has been my impression that Henry's rating
was so low he almost didn't rate at all, so I'm surprised that someone should
think he was overrated. There was a time about twenty years ago when he was
thought quite highly of, but the now anachronistic vision of liberation
through sex with whores, though it isn't all his work contains, has pretty
much kept him off the charts altogether, for better or for worse. Funny
how the term "over-rated" leads into certain kinds of metaphors. Is there
a secret, second meaning in "overated" that I am not getting--I feel on the
verge of grasping it--or is it just the flu?
Michael McColl
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 03:42:59 -0500
From:         S1MBM@ISUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Joesph Conrad and Nazism

Forgive me (if you can) for waxing wroth, but I sort of resent the subject
heading, with its *implied* assertion that just because some woman Conrad had
an affair with went on to "become a Nazi," "Conrad and Nazism" is a viable
*topic*.

sincerely,
michael mcdonald
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