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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: How do I reduce SYSTEM file size?
From: zaphod@vax2.winona.msus.edu (Gregory Talmo)
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:51:19 -0600
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Distribution: world
Organization: Winona State Academic Computing

In article <1992Aug24.132516.7266@slcs.slb.com>, brydon@asl.slb.com (Harvey
Brydon (918)250-4312) wrote:
> 
> Somehow my SYSTEM file has been expanded beyond usefulness.  I have a Mac IIci
> with 20 Megs of memory, System 7.0.x.  After running out of memory trying to
> run a second (!) application, I looked at the Finder info and I see the system
> is occupying 14+ Megabytes.
> 
> I know that with System 6, if you add fonts or DA's the system file expands to
> contain these and does not shrink back when you remove them again.  Is this
> the case with System 7 as well (ie. with fonts and sounds)?  How do I get a
> 'reasonable' size System file back again?

  It sounds stupid, but check your RAM cache in the Memory Control panel
and make sure it is not set to 10Mb!  


- Greg Talmo  (zaphod@vax2.winona.msus.edu)
  [The opinions expressed above are my own, and do not necessarily reflect
   the opinions, tastes, or policies of Winona State University, its
   faculty, staff or students.]
From: bng@tropel.gca.com (Baldwin Ng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: ######## WANTED INFO: Monitors for Macintoshes ##########
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:10:09 GMT

Hello Mac Users!

I am asking for some info about monitors for Macs.  Can they be used
as a TV?  I know regular monitors from Apple probably cannot.
Any suggestion as to which brand/model I should get.  I wanna be
able to hook up the monitor to my Mac when I need to use computer.
Other times, use it as a TV!

Please reply to:	ng@moe.optics.rochester.edu

Thanks,
Baldwin Ng

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From: pricec@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (price carl wayne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
Date: 28 Aug 92 06:34:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Aug28.063440.28863
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.

>See, that's what you get for reading documentation!  The IIsi has
>1M of RAM soldered to the motherboard and 4 SIMM slots.  That allows
>it to have 5M of RAM using 1M SIMMs or 17M of RAM using 4M SIMMs.  
>But using 16M SIMMs, it can have 65M of RAM.  If that is not enough, 
>you can add additional RAM on a nubus card, and *all* of that memory 
>is directly addressable -- no expanded/extended/upper memory nonsense.
>The operating system's memory limit is something like 4 gigabytes --
>not a number I keep in my head, since I am unlikely to be able to
>afford that much memory anytime soon.  I have 17M of physical RAM
>in my IIsi, and usually run with 34M of virtual memory.  17M is not
>the memory limit.  (And even if it was, that would still sound good
>compared to the PC's 640K barrier.)

Strange, my PC has a memory limit of 4GB without any of the expanded et al.
BS.  You Should check out the PC world, much has and is happening (the
great thing about competition).

-- 
Carl W. Price		 	*      * Work keeps us from three evils:     * 
Computer Engineering Student	*      * boredom, vice, and need.            *
Oregon State University		*      *                                     *
pricec@prism.cs.orst.edu	*      *       ---Voltaire                   *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: ajpetryk@bode.uwaterloo.ca (Adam Petryk)
Subject: Converting mac sounds to Sun ulaw sounds
Keywords: convert mac sound sun ulaw
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:16:42 GMT

  I am trying to convert some sounds I have on
my macintosh (stored in various formats, mostly SoundCap)
into .au files for my Sun box.  Unfortunately, no 
matter what I do, none of the sounds transfers without a LOta
static.  Could anybody suggest a means of doing such
a transfer.  If not, are there any ftp sites on the
Internet which carry sun sounds?

-- 
                                     -Adam 
Computer Engineering, University of Waterloo
Address: ajpetryk@bode.uwaterloo.ca 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Oliver Schoett <schoett@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Subject: How to transfer a large file with floppies?
Organization: Inst. fuer Informatik, Technische Univ. Muenchen, Germany
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:24:38 GMT

This may be a stupid or frequently-asked question, but here goes:

I have downloaded a file too large to fit on one ``floppy'' disk (it
is approx. 2.5 MB), and need to transfer it to a Mac with floppies.
How can I transfer this file

 - from a Sun to the Mac with floppies, or

 - Mac to Mac with floppies?

I normally write a floppy with a 'tar' archive of downloaded stuff on
a Sun and read it with suntar on the Mac, but I could also download
the file to a Mac and then make floppies there.  In neither case do I
know how to handle a file larger than one floppy.


Oliver Schoett     Inst. f. Informatik (H2), Technische Univ. M"unchen
                   Postfach 20 24 20,     8000 M"unchen 2,     Germany
schoett@informatik.tu-muenchen.de    phone +49 89 2105-2399  fax -8207
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: kreme@nyx.cs.du.edu (Not A Random Name)
Subject: Re: How good is AutoDoubler?
Keywords: autodoubler
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 19:32:29 GMT

stu1d46@bmerh255.bnr.ca (Victor Koa) writes:

>In article <Btsx08.MnI@DMI.USherb.CA> martin@DMI.USherb.CA writes:
>>Hi, Autodoubler is a great peace of software. It works well on my LC. The
>>speed degradation is almost imperceptible when lunching compressed
>>applications (except for Canvas). The reliability is excellent. I never
>>add a problem like lossing data with AD.
>>
>Yeah!  I think Autodoubler's pretty cool too!
>Only thing is, I recently bought another hard drive, and now I have space to
>spare.  So I decided I could do without Autodoubler (until I fill the new HD
>up :-) ).  Unfortunately there is no easy way of weaning my old hard drive off
>of Autodoubler.  If I remove AD from my system, I have a hard drive full of
>Disk Doubler files.  Looks like I'll have to uncompress each and every file
>one at a time...If I really want to bother.

select your hard drive, and then go to the DD menu and select expand.

Or, if you don't have Disk Doubler, run the DDExpand utility that AD installs
in your system folder and select your hard drive to expand.  It will quickly
expand all of your files.


--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant)
Subject: Apple Software for Sale
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:35:30 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

I have recently acquired a software package for the
Macintosh Computer which I am trying to get rid of.
It is a "Business Bundle" of the following programs:

Filemaker Pro
MacWrite II
MacDraw II

This package is new in the box with registration,
manuals and business templates. I am asking $200
for the entire package, but this is somewhat (as always)
negotiable. Thanks for your interest! All replies via
e-mail please.

Steve

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: rankin@ms.uky.edu (David W. Rankin Jr.)
Subject: Re: Keeping system in ROM
    <1992Sep1.230755.9716@athena.cs.uga.edu>
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 03:49:38 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences <A whole lotta 
    stuff deleted>

The Mac OS already "upgrades" parts of the ROM by loading resources from
the System file, not ROM, so doing this with the System resources would
probably be similarly trivial. (Or at least be made to be)

I wouldn't be too worried about it.

David W. Rankin, Jr.,  Mac Archiver for f.ms.uky.edu   Yorick on IRC
rankin@ms.uky.edu  rankin@ukma.BITNET rankin@ukma.UUCP uunet!ukma!rankin
Alternate addresses: rankin@ms.uky.edu  djrank00@aix3090b.uky.edu
---<Insert standard "These are my thoughts, and only mine." disclaimer here>---
"Now all has been heard;/ Here is the conclusion of the matter:/ Fear God and
keep his commandments,/ for this is the whole duty of man."
    "The Teacher", Ecclesiastes 12:13 (NIV)
From: johnsd2@rs6405.ecs.rpi.edu (Daniel Norman Johnson)
Subject: Re: How good is AutoDoubler?
Keywords: autodoubler
Reply-To: johnsd2@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:08:27 GMT

In article <1992Sep01.181941.544@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, stu1d46@bmerh255.bnr.ca (Victor Koa) writes:
[deletia in praise of AutoDoubler]
|> Only thing is, I recently bought another hard drive, and now I have space to
|> spare.  So I decided I could do without Autodoubler (until I fill the new HD
|> up :-) ).  Unfortunately there is no easy way of weaning my old hard drive off
|> of Autodoubler.  If I remove AD from my system, I have a hard drive full of
|> Disk Doubler files.  Looks like I'll have to uncompress each and every file
|> one at a time...If I really want to bother.
|> 

Can't you just set your whole hard drive to "do not compress" with the
control panel? I think that decompresses the content too... At least I
remember doing it on a folder, and then the contents were not compressed.
[but maybe it never got around to compressing 'em... hmmmm]
-- 
			- Dan Johnson
And God said "Jeeze, this is dull"... and it *WAS* dull. Genesis 0:0

These opinions have had all identifiying marks removed, and are untraceable.
You'll never know whose they are.
From: MATTOTE@UCF1VM.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: AppleShare Server Accounting
Date: 25 Aug 92 15:21:46 GMT
Organization: University of Central Florida--Computer Services

I am currently running an AppleShare Server v3.0 on System 7.0 and would
like to keep track of who logs in, when, how long, and the like.  I see
nothing provided with AppleShare Server (not withstanding the possibility
of temp. blindness) that would accomplish this.  I would appreciate any
constructive suggestions anybody might be able to give me.  Thanks in
advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: sek@rigel.cc.bellcore.com (Spencer Kantor)
Subject: Mac & PC Calendar/Scheduling Software
Reply-To: sek@rigel.cc.bellcore.com (Spencer Kantor)
Organization: Bell Communications Research, Red Bank, N.J.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 19:43:03 GMT

We have a mixed environment of Macs and PC's that are all able to share
files via Netware and/or NFS. 

What we're looking for is a Calendar and/or Schedule package that can
be used on both Macs and PC's and the users can access each others
calendar files that'll be stored on the common server (e.g. Mac users
could access the calendar files created by the PC application and
vice-versa).

Does anyone know if such a cross-platform application exists.

Thanks.
-- 
Spencer Kantor
Bell Communications Research

sek@nvuxr.cc.bellcore.com
{bcr, bellcore}!nvuxr.cc.bellcore.com!seK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Re: How much should I offer for a Mac Portable?
Reply-To: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 19:40:01 GMT

Haibin Jiu writes
> I would not touch one [a portable].
> 
> Bugs

I used one for a while; never had any problems.  What bugs  
do you have in mind?

Lets not get too haughty too.  There's better computers  
around but that doesn't mean everything built yesterday  
becomes instant junk.
In fact, for penniless students who don't mind trading bulk  
for cheapness, I'd think they'd be a great buy.  They'd  
have to be pretty cheap to compete with a portable 100,  
though. 
--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Aliases (was Re: # of files)
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:59:34 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Aug27.220740.2524@qualcomm.com>, sdorner@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Steve Dorner) writes:
> kent@sunfs3.Camex.COM (Kent Borg) writes:
>>No, Firstclass does not circumvent the file system, aliases are not
>>implemented by the file system--which is what annoys the makers of
>>Firstclass.  I think they wish they were on a Unix box.  To use
>>aliases would require extra irksome work on their part.

Yeah, but if they were on a UNIX box, they wouldn't have proper aliases--
just those crude symbolic link thingies...

> Sounds like they have an Attitude.  Of course, they're not the
> only ones.  I can think of one particular development system that ALSO
> doesn't have a clue about aliases.  It's called MPW, and the company
> is some fruit name.  Ah, well, they probably weren't Apple Partners, and
> didn't get any warning of what was going to happen in System 7. :-)

MPW 3.3 has some alias support in it. Not that I've ever made use of it:
I have this little drag-and-drop utility application that constructs path
names for me, that I can just paste into an MPW command line, and of course
in this case all the alias resolution is handled automatically by the Finder.

> Aliases are implemented in an unpleasant way for any app that doesn't
> just use standard file, and it's no particular shame that aliases
> aren't supported in such apps.  Of course, as the years wear on, one's
> patience wears thinner.

I was one of the many who wondered why aliases weren't embedded more deeply
into the existing File Manager. But then aliases are fairly complex things,
and resolving them could take a lot of work. Should you automatically follow
aliases to aliases? Imagine if a folder had within it aliases to files
on several floppies; just building a list for SFGetFile (which would involve
a lot of _GetCatInfo calls) could cause a whole *heap* of "Please Insert the
Disk" requests!

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: +64-7-856-2889
Computer Services Dept                     fax: +64-7-838-4066
University of Waikato            electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
'Users in countries which use A3 paper may print Apple DocViewer documents by
using the "Reduce or Enlarge" setting of the "Page Setup" dialog.'
				    -- Apple DocViewer Read Me file on ETO #8
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: glf@oclc.org (Greg Feldman-Hill)
Subject: Undersized StartUpScreen??
Keywords: startup screen
Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:29:19 GMT

I have an LCII with a 14" (or is it really a 13") SONY color monitor.
I have the newest version of Aldus' SuperPaint, which will save a file
in StartUpScreen format.

The problem is that it crops any picture I have down to the 9" MacPlus
screen size and that gets displayed in the center of my monitor.

Is there some program I can ftp or something else I can do to get a
full-sized picture put up as a startupscreen (and also as a desktop
picture)?

Thanks.
 

-- 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Greg Feldman-Hill  glf@oclc.org
OCLC - Online Computer Library Center, Dublin, Ohio         (614) 764-4356
    "If winning is not important, then Commander, why keep score?" -- Worf
From: kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: **** ARE MAC CLONES OUT YET? ****
Date: 1 Sep 92 23:48:20 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <9209012016.AA14635@kiwi.tropix.uucp> bng@tropel.gca.com (Baldwin Ng) writes:
>Hello,
>
>I was reading the April 91 issue of MacWorld just now about a
>new company called NuTek in California - which was planning
>to release Mac Clones at the end of '91.  Are they out yet?
>If so, how well do they perform compare with real Macs?

I believe they're still having both legal and development problems
with their cloned ROM's.  I this point, I don't expect them to ever
come out, although I do hear that they're busy cloning the Mac II
ROM's as well.  However, since Apple has been able to lower their 
prices within the past year or so, the prospects of Mac clones 
don't seem to be as robust as they used to be.

Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.comm
From: jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: PowerBook 170 <--> Ethernet <--> Sun ..... HELP
	<D88-JWA.92Sep3101102@dront.nada.kth.se>
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:48:12

"d88-jwa" == Jon W{tte <d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se> writes:

d88-jwa> Nopt card, but there are SCSI ethernet boxes; means he won't
d88-jwa> have EtherNet when he's running around, but that's sort of
d88-jwa> unnecessary, wouldn't you say? :-)

Uh, don't be so quick to assume that.  A friend of mine lugs his sony
newsstation with him as he travels, since most places he visits has
some sort of ethernet connectivity.  He gets a local IP, configures
his box, and can then attach back to "home", where the fileservers,
his tools, etc all live.  Works like a charm...  I'd love to have enet
on a 170 (or whatever is about to come out... :-)

--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
                              '92 R100R, DoD# 0378
      "Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads." -- R & G Are Dead
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: kohn@cs.swarthmore.edu (Daniel Kohn)
Subject: unchangeable HD name and icon
Organization: Swarthmore College
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:41:16 GMT

	I hope this doesn't count as a FAQ, but I cannot change the name or
icon of my hard drive.  I have turned file sharing off, and have tried
eveything else I could think of.

	I have a IIci 5/80 running AutoDoubler and a couple other rows of
extensions.

	A friend suggested that this is a known problem and that I can
download a program that can fix it.  He couldn't remember the name; can
you?  Where is it?

	Thanks.
-- 

__________________________________________________________________________
Dan Kohn                   "Put the Wet Stuff           Swarthmore College
kohn@cs.swarthmore.edu      On the Red Stuff."       Swarthmore, PA  19081
From: lwwarpup@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Lonnie W. Warpup)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: PostScript
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:22:11 GMT
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.

Is there any way to print postscript images with a non-postscript
printer?  I own a LaserWriter LS and have noticed that the PD drawing
programs print real cruddy images and that documents with embedded
images are really choppy when printed.  I have seen great graphics used
with programs like Excel 4.0, but when it comes to simple freehand
drawing, it draws with BLOCKS!

I'm sure this goes to say that "if I wanted good quality printing, I
should have bought a PostScript printer", but are there any other
options for me?

-- 
--
Lonnie W. Warpup                :   Oakland University
lwwarpup@vela.acs.oakland.edu   :   Rochester, Michigan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Stuffit SpaceSaver:  Works Great!
From: brecher@husc8.harvard.edu (Jonathan Brecher)
Date: 29 Aug 92 19:59:10
Organization: Harvard Arts and Sciences Computer Services, Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: Pete Kelly's message of Sat, 29 Aug 1992 22:35:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.223556.4095@brtph560.bnr.ca> Pete Kelly <pfkelly@bnr.ca> writes:
>Stuffit SpaceSaver:  Works Great!
>When can the rest of us expect SpaceSaver 1.0.1 ?

As of right now, about four hours ago.  The updater is available by 
anonymous ftp from mac.archive.umich.edu in 
/mac/misc/update/spacesaver1.01up.sit.hqx

Of course, the last time I posted a message like this, our computer crashed
the next day and I was flooded with mail.  Oh, well.  Here's hoping.

				jonathan brecher
				brecher@husc.harvard.edu
				assistant mac.archivist
From: roy@adeptsln.cts.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT CD-ROM drive on a Mac? (Again)
Date: 27 Aug 92 04:38:40 GMT
Reply-To: roy@adeptsln.cts.com

In article <BtJuzq.IJn@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay)  
writes:
> A while back I posted a simialr question.  I was told that it could not
> be used (boo hoo!).  However, maybe those posting then were inaccurate!? :)
> 
> ccoprcd@prism.gatech.EDU (Bruce Coy Dillahunty) writes:
> 
> >Well,
> >   Thought I would try again.  The only response I have received to my
> >original query was from several people who wanted to know the answer also
> >(I'll try to send it to you, if I ever find out).
> 
> >   I want to run a NeXT CD-ROM drive from a Macintosh... what do I need in
> >the way of drivers?  Any pointers?  Thanks
> >Bruce
> 
> >-- 
> >Dillahunty, Bruce C.
> >Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332  
> >uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!ccoprcd
> >ARPA: ccoprcd@prism.gatech.edu

THEY ARE VERY WRONG!!! I have a NeXT CD ROM, and it is working beautifully with  
all of the Apple CD's. (In fact, the NeXT can READ all of the APPLE CD's under  
3.0!!!)

Anyhow, the company that makes the drivers is called Trantor Systems, and they  
are located in Fremont, CA, USA. (Information would have a Phone #.. I think it  
is area code 408)

The driver is quite nice, and as I said, it runs all of the Developer CD's and  
others fine. It even comes with a DA that plays audio cd's.

Make sure you ask for the drivers for the SONY CD mechanism. 

-- 
Roy Lovejoy          | internet:  roy@adeptsln.cts.com
Software Philosopher | AppleLink: adept
Adept Solutions      | CIS:       72447,1447
.....................| dual certified developer: NeXT & Apple ;)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: lsr@taligent.com (Larry Rosenstein)
Subject: SilentBeep extension
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: Taligent, Inc.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 01:15:31 GMT

Enclosed is a small utility that patches SysBeep to always flash the menu
bar.  This is useful on a PowerBook because then you can set the volume
control to 1 and get a relatively soft startup sound but a silent SysBeep. 
(If you set the volume control to 0, the startup sound is fairly loud.)

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Larry Rosenstein
Taligent, Inc.

lsr@taligent.com
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