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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:59:32 PDT
From:         Craig Armstrong <craiga@SPOCK.DIS.CCCD.EDU>
Subject:      ENET addr....

I haven't forgotten about the routine some of you asked for to retrieve
the NIC address from the Banyan backend. I've been bogged down writing
SPEEDE decoders for electronic transcript transfers between schools.
Talk about fun.... Anyway, I'll definatly get the library put together
before I go on vacation next week...
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 08:42:14 BST
From:         ps@JET.UK
Subject:      re:Backbone

>>I'm going to be getting a 2nd server soon.  What are the best options
>>for a server-server backbone?  They will both be running 4.11(5) and
>>will be located within a few feet of one annother.

>>Jon

Fast Ethernet Cards in each server, with an AUI Fanout connecting them,
failing that (a cheaper solution) use thin-wire Ethernet.

Just my 2 cents worth.


Paul Simmonds
VINES Network Manager

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 00:34:02 EDT
From:         "Elliott Coates" <coates@UMUC.UMD.EDU>
Subject: re: WHAT IS A NONCE??

>A nonce is:

>server id + stamp + time

>where stamp is monotonically increase and time is UNIX time when issued.

>Bonieck Lively
>BDL#@ENCON.PGE.COM

Please, what is "monotonically increase"?

Elliott Coates
coates@umuc.umd.edu
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 10:55:05 EDT
From:         Daniel=Chen%COMPUTER%UMASS@BANYAN.UMMED.EDU
Subject: Re: Abandon Banyan?

From:     David=Blair%ComputerSrvcs%WILL%BIGBIRD.WILL.UIUC.EDU@VM1.CC.UAK

I have a question about the Packet Drivers packages;  I haven't
experimented the NCSA or others, but how would the config.tel file
look, especially the card line?

Also, what is the line 3c523 0x60 do?  And where would the docs for
that line be?

Thanks   (I included your sample autoexec.bat)


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>Sample Autoexec.bat
>
>@ECHO OFF
>CLS
>PROMPT $p$g
>PATH = C:\DOS;C:\CLARKSON;
>SET TEMP=C:\DOS
>CD \BAN				;For 386 or higher CPU's change the lines
>3C523 0X60			;after 3c523 to the following
>BAN				;ban /nc
>Y:\NET\LOG			;csiban
>				;redir3 or redir4
>				;This way they all can be loaded into UMB.
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:58:05 PDT
From:         Craig Armstrong <craiga@SPOCK.DIS.CCCD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: PCPRINT Timeslice Adjustment

>
> Jeffery;
>         Yep, there is such a PCPRINT parameter. It's the r: parameter. Set it
> to r:50 and cpu usage is low. set it to r:100 and it's in the medium range.
> set it to r:200 and it'll use all cpu for PCPRINT. It's in the manuals, but I
> don't think PCPRINT tells you about it if you just execute z:pcprint without
> any parameters.

Alan, since I'm simple minded I've become confused with the 4.11/5.00 split.
Which versions are the R: parm supported on? I know, read the manuals for
each release!!! :-)

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:59:55 PDT
From:         C.=Hanley%IM%SPK@BANYAN.USACE.MIL
Subject:      re: Mystical server hangs (lengthy)

Regarding the server hangs for the Compaq Systempro/LT.....

Increase your comm buffers to 390 KB.  70 KB is too low.  I made this mistake
after loading Vines on a new server.  My comm buffers were set to the default
of 58 KB.   After the server was up & operational for a while, users couldn't
access the network drives due to time outs and response was very sluggish.
Luckily someone else on staff here noticed the problem and we fixed it.

=================================================================
Carolyn Hanley, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Sacramento District
chanley@usace.mil, 916-557-7035, 916-557-7847 (fax)
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:26:31 CET
From:         Frank=Koperdraat%it%ic.uva.nl@UVACOM01.UVA.NL
Subject: RE: re:Backbone

Hi Elliot,

A fan-out unit is a box to connect multiple ethernet-cards, via the
AUI-connector, to thick ethernet, using a single transceiver. About speed:
Thin, thick or UTP ethernet all using 10Mbit signaling. So they it's all the
same. I would select on the criterium of price and ease of installation. I
think it would be thin ethernet, although with the dropping prices of
10BaseT-cards you could easily (for 2 servers) use UTP. But you would have to
use a (non-standard) cross-cable. And the solution doesn't scale up.

Greetings

Frank Koperdraat
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:36:47 PDT
From:         Stephane=Bourque%Eng%Incognito@DEAN.ARTS.SFU.CA
Subject: Re: Ethernet Bridging

Randy:

	There is not such thing as Ethernet Bridging for VINES.  And
	even in the picture you describe, what you need is something
	to encapsulate LAT in Banyan IP packets.  There are a couple
	of solutions you could look at:

	1) Can you get your LAT encapsulated in TCP/IP ?  If you could
	   do so, then you could have both sides talking TCP/IP
	   through the ICAs...

	2) You would have to find some sort of device that would let
	   you encapsulate the LAT traffic in Banyan-IP traffic.
	   This would most definitely be another piece of hardware
	   on your LAN on each side.  There may be someone that makes
	   such products.

	3) I don't know how this is feasible but by looking at your
	   diagram, if you relocate the CICSO to talk over the CSU/DSU
	   and add another one of the other side, you could be OK.
	   You already have a CISCO, the CSU/DSUs, the link...All you
	   would need is another CISCO.  SInce they route LAT/Banyan IP
	   and 1/2 a million protocols, this might be a solution...If
	   you have the freedom to move things around...


	That's my 2 cents worth...Any other taker?

	Thanks...


	Stephane Bourque
	Incognito Software Inc.
	Voice:  (604)669-7575
	Fax:    (604)669-7576
	e-mail: stephb@test.arts.sfu.ca

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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:40:29 EDT
From:         Laura=Zuromsky%SupportServices%Banyan@HIPPO.BANYAN.COM
Subject:      Banyan Mkt. Notice 259

Sorry for any inconvenience, but I thought I'd try this method of delivery as
opposed to ftp transfer...   -LauraZ@Banyan.com  (508) 836-1825

============================================================================

Marketing Notice 259
October 7, 1992



                        ORACLE VERSION 6.0.33
                     NOT CERTIFIED FOR VINES 5.0



Summary

ORACLE Server for Banyan VINES (OSFV) is not certified for VINES
5.0. Customers are advised that Oracle will not support
configurations that are not certified.  Banyan recommends that
customers using OSFV NOT upgrade their Oracle Server to VINES 5.0
at this time.

Background

Problems have been encountered by customers running OSFV 6.0 under
VINES 5.0. under VINES 5.0.  The problem has been confirmed by
Banyan and Oracle and centers around the change at 5.0 of the inode
structure to 32 bits.  Oracle plans to certify OSFV in conjunction
with the next release of VINES.


ORACLE is a registered trademark of Oracle Corporation
Banyan and VINES are registered trademarks, and the Banyan logo is
a trademark of Banyan Systems Incorporated.
From: coates@UMUC.UMD.EDU (Elliott Coates)
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Subject: RE: ABUi
Date: 10 Oct 92 02:19:39 GMT
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Thanks Shirley!

The Ellster
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:57:04 AUS
From:         Brian=Tehan%CC.staff%Swinburne@BUSTER.CC.SWIN.EDU.AU
Subject:      re: LPD service

Herb Patten says:-

I have the PG&E UPrint service running under a VINES 5.0 server and have not
experieneced any problems.  The UPrint service can be found on compuserv in
the Banyan forums.

I would be curious to know if other people have it up and running on a 5.0
server.

Herb Patten
PG&E
hlp1@cs.pge.com


	We don't have easy access to compuserv here on the other side of the
world. However we do have easy access to the Internet. Is this software
available via FTP from somewhere?

Thanks
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 08:29:00 EDT
From:         Shirley Rodgers <D1SLR@AKRONVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Help New User Please
              7 Oct 1992 07:47:06 EDT from <sparre@BLACKHOLE.DELMARVA.COM>

On Wed, 7 Oct 1992 07:47:06 EDT Robert Sparre said:
>Rob, you need to subscribe to the list server, not the discussion list
>itself. Try using the following in the To: field
>
>	listserv@vm1.cc.uackron.edu
>
Slight typo Rob. The host machine is vm1.cc.uakron.edu.
If you continue to have problems subscribing, contact me and I'll help you.

Shirley Rodgers
University of Akron
SRodgers@uakron.edu
From: GBURGESS@MSU.BITNET (Gregory.Burgess)
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Subject: re: Xusers.
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:08:00 GMT
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Thanks for the compliments.

I plan to put some other things in the program.  I should be working on it
next week.

Later......

Greg.Burgess@banyan.msu.edu
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 09:41:00 EDT
From:         "Gregory.Burgess" <GBURGESS@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      CNS Question

Got some question about CNS's.

What I have here is two CNS486's with 8 Meg of RAM, an 80meg and 330meg hard
drive.

What I would like to do is put some new hard drives in them in the 1 giga byte
or more range.

My question is this:  Do I have to get them from Banyan, or can I order the
drives from other vendors.

Greg Burgess
College of Business
Michigan State University

Greg.Burgess@banyan.msu.edu
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:25:10 EDT
From:         "Elliott Coates" <COATES@UMUC.BITNET>
Subject:      ABUI

Maybe I missed something but, would one of you all attendees please give the
list a clue as to the proceedings.

[I've read about the "nitty gritty" q & a session but, what was the general
overall flavor?  What happened with regard to SCO Vines, TCP/IP, packet
drivers, ndis, you know all the good stuff?]

Elliott Coates
coates@umuc.umd.edu
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 09:48:28 CET
From:         Bent=Tranberg%Data%AID@BAN.AID.NO
Subject:      Re: Shortening VINES names for SMTP

This is my first mail to the list that goes trough our new SMTP gateway.
The SMTP service is a modified version that will handle the international
letters in names and text.

They have also added the possibility to remove the group%org part from the
senders name in an outgoing mail, when the sender is in the default group.
Nothing is done with the = in names.

I would much rather have the service look for a nickname in the default
group, and then remove the group%org part and use that nickname. Then I
could stay as Bent Tranberg@Data@AID, and have a nickname bent.tranberg
in the default group AID@AID. I phoned the guy responsible for the
modification, and he would consider doing a special version just for us
( " if it really is THAT important for you to have the = and % removed!"
). We are not sure it's worth $1200 to have it done anyway. What do we do
when it's time to upgrade?

There are lots of servers and things out on internet that do not accept
= and %, so we really do need a solution. I'd hate to have to add all
our users to some alias file. Is it not possible to use a pattern? Like
us=er%group%org@ban.aid.no <-> us.er.group.org@ban.aid.no ? About those
services that go between MS and SMTP, I would like to hear from you when
they are finished. Maybe we could make a deal?

Bent.Tranberg@ban.aid.no
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:41:28 -0400
From:         Capt Clement <623@DCSEM.DCSEM.CA>
Subject:      Please add me to your distribution

Please add me to the list as: clement@mvax.dcem.dnd.ca

Thank you
From: coates@UMUC.UMD.EDU (Elliott Coates)
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Subject: RE: re:Backbone
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:23:04 GMT
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>Fast Ethernet Cards in each server, with an AUI Fanout connecting them,
>failing that (a cheaper solution) use thin-wire Ethernet.

>Paul Simmonds
>VINES Network Manager

I guess the Fanout is a faster medium than thin-wire?  Is this a Fanout that
would normally have one connection to thick coax in addition to a fanning out
to user/server nodes?

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:30:08 CET
From:         Frank=Koperdraat%it%ic.uva.nl@UVACOM01.UVA.NL
Subject:      re: WHAT IS A NONCE??

Hi Matthew,

I'm qouting from Banyan Documentation, VINES Architecture Definition
092015-001, for Vines 4.x, page 4-17:

....

If security conditions allow the user to log in, VANguard issues a special
object called a NONCE. The nonce consists of a server serial number, a time and
date stamp, a unique number generated by VANguard, and related information
about the login event. The nonce uniquely identifies the current session
between VINES and the user and provides a record of when that user enters or
leaves the network.

The nonce is then bound to a specific StreetTalk name, in this case the name
of the user who logged in succesfully. VANguard then uses the nonce to
authenticate the identity of the user whenever that person attempts to
interact with other network objects such as VINES services. VANguard
authenticates all requests by any cleint program, whether supplied by Banyan or
a third-party developer, that run's on the user's PC.

In addition to its authentication functions, VANguard also enforces security
after a succesfull user login. For example, VANguard interacts with StreetTalk
to determine whether a user is allowed to edit his or her own user profile or
to access a given file service.

Each VINES service programmatically logs in wwith VANguard, wich verifies the
service's name and password. If StreetTalk and the server validate the name
and password, the service receives a nonce and can begin interacting with
objects on the network.

As is the case with an individual user, the nonce issued to a service is bound
to its StreetTalk name. VANguard provides both security and authentication for
services, using the same pattern applied to users. For example, VANguard
authenticates service requests to interact with StreetTalk or to modify a
StreetTalk associated record.

....

Part of this information can also be
found in the VINES 5.0 documentation:
- VINES Glossary (DA260-02)
- Managing VINES security (DA293-00)
- Planning a VINES network (DA207-02)

Hope this clears things up a little


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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:57:01 CET
From:         Frank=Koperdraat%it%ic.uva.nl@UVACOM01.UVA.NL
Subject:      re: Matchmaker, Matchmaker

Hi Elliot,

I'm again qouting the VINES Architecture Definition:

pg 3-3 (The Service/Client Model)
....
VINES supports RPC's with it's own netwotk compiler, called MATCHMAKER. Under
Matchmaker , each service registers with the StreetTalk naming service.
Clients and other services then issue RPC's using the service name and the
adressing information obtained from StreetTalk.

Matchmaker sets up RPC's and automatically manages the socket interface
between VINES processes without any effort on the part of the application
programmer.

pg 309 (VINES session and Presentation Layers)
...
On the session and presentation layers, VINES uses Banyan's remote procedure
call (RPC) generator and network compiler, MATCHMAKER. Matchmaker is
implemented as a high-level programming language that simplifies the
construction of distributed applications. It enables developpers to create
source code independent of transport layer and end-node architecture.

Matchmaker began as a compiler implementatioln of an optimized superset of the
XNS Courier  Protocol, an early remote procedure call protocol. The next
version of Matchmaker will follow the ISO ASN.1 Recommendation.

Matchmaker uses a REQUEST-REPLY	method to simplify common communication
exchanges between a service and a client running on two netwotk nodes (such as
a PC and a server). With Matchmaker, a call to an application process on a
remote node is as simple as invoking a local procedure in C. All packaging of
arguments and message communications is handled automatically.

At the session level, MAthmaker provides a netwotk interface to the transport
layer. VINES applications use RPC's and IPC port addresses to exchange IPC
reliable messages of up to 5800 bytes, with Matchmaker managing sockets on the
transport layer.

At the presentation level, Matchmaker represents and translates data types as
needed. Data types are the specific format used to represent datza to an
application during a request-reply procedure. Matchmaker transparently
resolves proccesoor-dependent issues, such as byte ordering, on all supported
processor types.

....
(an example to illustrate the role of Matchmaker on the presentation and
session layers excluded)
...
In practice, Matchmaker consists of the following components:
-	A specification language that defines the remote interfaces of
        distributed programs
-	A network compiler
-	A library for each processor supported by VINES.

Hope this helps.

Frank Koperdraat

P.S If you folks continue to ask questions like this, I will have to type the
    whole manual.
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:43:42 PDT
From:         HLP1%ItsLsc%CTS@CTS27.CS.PGE.COM
Subject:      re: Sockets for Vines 5.x

Daniel Chen,

We have 5 servers running 5.00(5).  The print services on these servers that
are supporting PAP printers all have about 10 sockets (some 8, some 9).  One
of the print services only uses 4 sockets, but this print services does NOT
print to a PAP printer.

Herb Patten
PG&E
hlp1@cs.pge.com
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:33:52 -0600
From:         STRASHEA@ZENO.MSC.COLORADO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Abandon Banyan? -- NEVER!

Interesting Randy...

I asked the same thing over 3 messages in the past month or two and wasn't
able to get a response.  I guess your finesse did it!

Kelly Yock,
I've asked you 2 times to provide me with the resource and you were unable
at the time to even reply to my messages!

I work with Randy Storm at Metropolitan State College of Denver.

-Andrew Strasheim
Information Technology - User Services
strashea@zeno.mscd.edu

-ps I'm glad that SOMEONE has finally decided to speak up and let the truth
be known about INTEL's card and Banyan's solution.  ...And now for something
completely different (Monty Python)
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