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From: andrew@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Andy Biewer)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: footnote question
Date: 7 Nov 1992 17:09:36 GMT
Organization: UW-Milwaukee - Language Resource Center
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Hello NetPeople,

How can I change the footnote macro such that it does not leave space
between the footnotes and the text on a non-filled page?  In other words, I
want the footnotes to appear directly underneath the text, and not at the
bottom of the page.

Thanks much,

Andy Biewer
Language Resource Center
UW-Milwaukee
From: johan@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Johan Wevers)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Why too many unprocessed floats
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:32:50 GMT

choy@skorpio.usask.ca (I am a terminator.) writes:

>How does LaTeX know there are too many unprocessed floats? If I know
>this I might be able to plan ahead to avoid this error.

The most easy way to ``solve'' this problem is to put a \clearpage
after some floats. This forces LaTeX to put all floats and clear the
memory. An other way to improve float placement is to include this in
your text or change the values in the style file:

\setcounter{topnumber}{2}
\def\topfraction{1}
\setcounter{bottomnumber}{2}
\def\bottomfraction{1}
\setcounter{totalnumber}{5}
\def\textfraction{0}
\def\floatpagefraction{.8}
\setcounter{dbltopnumber}{2}
\def\dbltopfraction{1}
\def\dblfloatpagefraction{.8}
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From: jim@n5ial.chi.il.us (Jim Graham)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Why does TeX not break a paragraph at all costs? 
Distribution: world
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 22:04:18 GMT
Organization: Me? Organized? Hah! :-)

In article <1992Nov10.230009.27125@athena.mit.edu>
lasmith@athena.mit.edu writes:

>      I am dumbfounded at (La)TeX's insistence on breaking o page after only 
> say two inches of text rather than include then next paragraph and break it
> in the middle.  Someone got the priorities all screwed up in allowing 
> TeX to consistently cpome down on the side of never breaking a paragraph.

but TeX *DOES* break pages in the middle of paragraphs, unless you
specifically tell it not to.  take a look at your settings for the
following:

\interlinepenalty --- high number, TeX tends to break pages between
   paragraphs rather than split them
\raggedbottom --- if set, TeX doesn't insist on pages being exactly
   the same length (as the name implies)

for example, a sample letter format (Appendix E of ``The TeXbook'')
uses \raggedbottom and \interlinepenalty=1000 to make page breaks
tend to happen between paragraphs.  according to the quick little
run I just did with emTeX, using \showthe\interlinepenalty , the
default for this is 0, meaning break the page anywhere TeX wants
to, even if right in the middle of a paragraph.  so, either you've
changed this, or the author of some macro set you're using changed
it for you.

now, one thing TeX does try to avoid is ``breaking a page between the
first two lines of a paragraph, or just before the last line, so that
`club' or `widow' lines that are detached from the rest of a paragraph
will not appear all alone on a page unless the alternative is worse.''
[pg. 104, ``The TeXbook'']

if this is what you're talking about, you might want to let TeX do
its work here --- a club or widow line really looks horrible.  better
to let the page be slightly less full (i.e., use \raggedbottom) than
to leave club or widow lines laying around.

take a look in Chapter 24 of ``The TeXbook'' for information on this.
some penalties you might want to adjust one way or the other to fit
your needs are:

   \clubpenalty --- penalty for creating a club line at bottom of page
   \widowpenalty --- penalty for creating a widow line at top of page

hope this helps.
   --jim

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From: eli@netcom.com (Interpretive Systems)
Subject: TeX/LaTeX ==> framemaker
Summary: Wanted: a translator from Tex/LaTeX to framemaker (and vice-versa)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:59:48 GMT

Wanted: a translator from Tex/LaTeX to framemaker (and vice-versa).
Thanks,

Eli Sternheim,
interHDL Design Corp.
1270 Oakmead Pkwy #209
Sunnyvale, CA 94086
(408) 749-8775
FAX (408) 749-8823
eli@netcom.com

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From: lasmith@athena.mit.edu (Lones A Smith)
Subject: Why does TeX not break a paragraph at all costs?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:00:09 GMT


Hi,
     I am dumbfounded at (La)TeX's insistence on breaking o page after only 
say two inches of text rather than include then next paragraph and break it
in the middle.  Someone got the priorities all screwed up in allowing 
TeX to consistently cpome down on the side of never breaking a paragraph.

Isd there any way of over-riding this globally without having to tell TeX 
at each junction \nopagebreak or \pagebreak as the case may be? This
is VERY frustrating, esp. when figures are concerned?  (Sorry for the typos
as I am temporarily without any editor or delete key.)

Lones
--
Lones A. Smith
Department of Economics
MIT E52-252C
Cambridge MA 02139
From: bbeeton <BNB@MATH.AMS.ORG>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: re: does tex exist on the pdp-11
Date: 05 Nov 1992 11:22:16 -0500 (EST)
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

ben galehouse (comp.text.tex, november 5) asks whether tex exists
on the pdp-11.

sorry, no.
the pdp-11 is one of the few architectures for which (as far as i
know) tex hasn't been implemented.
the reason?  the address space is too limited.
						-- bb
From: KNAPPEN@VKPMZD.KPH.Uni-Mainz.de (J%org Knappen)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: polish (La)TeX
Date: 6 Nov 92 07:54:35 GMT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

I want to install a polish version of LaTeX at our site. (We have a
,,Schwerpunkt Polen'' here and they want to use TeX).


Therefore I'm looking for
--a polish style
--polish hyphenation patterns (I found some from 1987 in Stuttgart. Are
  these the ,,official ones''?)
--dcfonts 1.1 (Stuttgart only has dcfonts 1.0) and/or pl-fonts
--information about polish TeX (in english, german, french or esperanto;
I'm not able to read polish)

Yours, J"org Knappen.
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith)
Subject: customizing LaTeX's sectioning commands --HOW??
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:11:10 GMT

Hi,
     Is there a .sty for customizing the sectioning commands, so that  
(say) sections are centered and capitalized, but not for subsections?

--
Lones A. Smith
Department of Economics
MIT E52-252C
Cambridge MA 02139
v-mail: (617) 253-0914
e-mail: lones@lones.mit.edu  (NeXT mail or the garden variety stuff)
From: BNB@MATH.AMS.ORG (bbeeton)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: re: problem with indentations on page ends
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:48:32 GMT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

benedikt heinen asks (comp.text.tex, november 6) why the last item in
a series is being set as an ordinary paragraph, rather than with the
text hanging indented after the label.

when tex "wraps" a paragraph, it uses the indentation, baselineskip,
etc., that are currently in effect when the paragraph ends.  in mr.
heinen's case, the final paragraph ends at the outer level, where
\parindent=0pt.

either insert a blank line between the end of the last paragraph and
the closing brace on the local group, or close the last item with
\endgraf (which has been \let to equal \par and doesn't change under
ordinary circumstances even if \par changes).  either technique will
put tex into vertical mode and cause the paragraph to be wrapped
immediately.

the forced paragraph break is coincidental, and should be having no
effect here.
						-- bb
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: orourke@sophia.smith.edu (Joseph O'Rourke)
Subject: (name, date) bibstyle
Organization: Smith College, Northampton, MA, US
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:04:10 GMT

Can anyone tell me where to get the files that would cause my citations
to appear as "(name, date)" in the text?
	Sorry if this is a FAQ...
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: huang@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Shan-Chiao Huang)
Subject: Help -- Font libraries w/ DVI
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 08:30:45 GMT

Hi, 

I am new in (La)TeX. So, if this is a FAQ, please fogive my posting.

After spending 2 nights, I got emTeX and p6h_????.fli on my 386. I setup
everything as the readme says. Now I can get TeX work. However, I cannot
use dviscr and prtp6h.bat. I set all the environment variables. But it
seems both dviscr and dvidot cannot find fonts within .fli files. I checked
all the documents in the directory but I cannot find any info about how
to use (or set options) .fli files w/ dvi???.

So, if anyone know how to do that, please let me know or email your .cnf
file to me. Your assistance is highly appreciated.


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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: yhtao@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Yu-Hui Tao)
Subject: Help for an installation problem for NFSS!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:44:18 GMT

Hi, netters:

   A problem occured while I was trying to install NFSS on my SPARC running
SUNOS 4.1.2. I have created a new format file, but the problem occureed while 
I was doing "latex install.mz3". The attached partical log file includes the 
TeX and LaTeX versions, and the error messages.

   Any response is appreciated!

Yu-Hui Tao
ISE, OSU
tao@CSEL.eng.ohio-state.edu
============================== The partial log file =====================
 
This is TeX, C Version 3.14t3 (format=lplain 92.11.12)  12 NOV 1992 17:58
**install.mz3
(install.mz3
LaTeX Version 2.09 <14 January 1992>
(docstrip.tex
No auxiliary output files.
.
.
.

\@infile=\read15
! No room for a new \read .
\ch@ck ...\else \errmessage {No room for a new #3}
                                                  \fi 
\alloc@ ...\advance \count 1#1by\@ne \ch@ck #1#4#2
                                                  \allocationnumber =\count ...
l.105 \newread\@outfile
                       
? h
This error message was generated by an \errmessage
command, so I can't give any explicit help.
Pretend that you're Hercule Poirot: Examine all clues,
and deduce the truth by order and method.

? x
 
Here is how much of TeX's memory you used:
 134 strings out of 4280
 1400 string characters out of 56843
 29464 words of memory out of 262141
 2225 multiletter control sequences out of 9500
 18987 words of font info for 72 fonts, out of 72000 for 255
 14 hyphenation exceptions out of 607
 36i,0n,8p,185b,9s stack positions out of 300i,40n,60p,3000b,4000s
No pages of output.
==============================END======================================
From: bkph@kauai.ai.mit.edu (Berthold K.P. Horn)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Convert TeX fonts to TrueType?
Date: 6 Nov 1992 13:05:08 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: kauai.ai.mit.edu
In-reply-to: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu's message of Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:45:01 GMT


In article <1992Nov5.174501.7472@athena.cs.uga.edu> mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes:

   Is it possible to convert TeX fonts to TrueType?

   Alternatively, is the AMS mathematical symbol set available in TrueType?

   -- 
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   :- Artificial Intelligence Programs       phone 706 542-0359
   :- The University of Georgia                fax 706 542-0349
   :- Athens, Georgia 30602 U.S.A.          amateur radio N4TMI


The `TeX fonts' are all available in fully hinted ATM compatible Adobe Type
1 format from Y&Y.  This includes the Blue Sky Research set of 75 Computer
Modern fonts, the AMS font set in Type 1 format, as well as the `extra'
LaTeX and SliTeX fonts.  There is also an alternative to Computer Modern
- complete with math fonts - called LucidaBright + LucidaNewMath.

Since the PC version of the BSR CM font set - as well as the LucidaBright +
LucidaNewMath font set - includes Adobe Type Manager (ATM), and since ATM is
for free on the Mac, there is no real incentive to make TrueType versions
(while there are many disadvantages to using TrueType).

There is very little TeX support for TrueType at the moment. At the moment,
only DVIWindo (MS Windows) and TeXtures (Mac) support TrueType fonts.

*** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** 

DISCLAIMER: I have connections with Y&Y and I like BSR

*** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** 

Berthold K.P. Horn
Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA
From: WALKERJ@crl.aecl.ca (DR. JIM WALKER @CRL)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Spell Checkers and pk file conversion
Date: 29 Oct 92 16:28:32 GMT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

I'd like to thank everybody who helped me with my spelling and pk problems.

Several spell checkers were recommended:
        --------------

MICROSPELL:
Trigram Systems of 5840 Northumberland St. Pittsburgh, PA 15217 (FAX
412-422-3793) sells a system called MicroSpell (version 8 for MSDOS) for
$79.oo (US).

LSPELL20:
Try looking out a copy of lspell20.zip, its a TeX/LaTeX aware spell checker
which runs under DOS, written in Turbo Pascal I think.If memory serves correctly it was in /mirrors/txtutl on wuarchive.wustl.edu,
but archie should be able to direct you anyway ......

AMSPELL:
The third (you can ftp it on 141.210.10.117, file
pub/msdos/txtutl/amspel20.zip) is a work of some people in
netherlands.

EPELLE/DOS & SSPELL:
EPELLE est un ensemble de programmes visant \`a d\'etecter des mots
mal orthographi\'es dans des textes fran\c cais saisis afin
d'\^etre compos\'es en TeX.

SSPELL est un programme visant \`a d\'etecter des mots mal
orthographi\'es dans des textes anglais et d\'evelopp\'e par
Maurice Castro (maurice@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au).

L'ensemble est disponible sur le Sun de l'Institut Fourier
(mozart [130.190.12.100]) par ftp : le fichier epespe.tar.Z dans
le r\'epertoire	~/fourier.

I've installed amspell and epell/dos, both of which are working fine.

PK file conversion
------------------

I was recommended to run metafont or use a different previewer, I chose the
latter.

DVISCR:
emTeX is available in all
the standard archives, but the canonical source is
  rusinfo.rus.uni-stuttgart.de
in the directory
  /soft/tex/machines/pc/emtex
Get the file README.ENG for an explanation of what the various parts are
and which of them you need.  (The german version is readme.ger).
From: jaffe@hoss.unl.edu (David Jaffe)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: latex, dvips (rokicki): nsf form inclusion in documents
Date: 10 Nov 1992 16:29:34 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hoss.unl.edu

One can get NSF proposal forms in postscript format by anonymous ftp from 
stis.nsf.gov: NSF/forms.  Using latex and dvips (rokicki), how does one
include these in a tex document?  In particular, how does one do this with
fm1207.ps = cover "page" (2 pages)?

David Jaffe (jaffe@hoss.unl.edu)
University of Nebraska - Lincoln
From: jim@n5ial.chi.il.us (Jim Graham)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: useable spell checkers 
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 92 05:16:36 GMT
Organization: Me? Organized? Hah! :-)

In article <1992Nov2.164021.3398@cm.cf.ac.uk> Simon.N.Smith@cm.cf.ac.uk
writes:

> Anyone out there know of any commercially available (i.e. good) spell
> checkers for use with LaTeX on a UNIX (Suns with SunOS) platform?

well, if you can live with the fact that you don't have to pay an arm
and a leg for it, ispell is a *VERY* good spell checker that works
very nicely with TeX.  only problem (based on your request above) is
that it's free (short of what it'll cost to ftp).

also, note that mainstream commercial software is not always good,
nor is it always the best.  it is often left behind by free software
and/or shareware (in the dos world, at least).

now, I'm not sure where to tell you to look for the source (been a while
since I needed to ftp it), but it's out there.  I'm sure most of the
folks in this group could tell you this bit --- ispell is (so it seems)
probably *THE* most popular spell checker for UNIX, especially where
TeX is involved.

hope this helps.
   --jim

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From: ky04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (KUN YU)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: More than 3 tables on a page
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:26:12 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Nov5.162900.6019@bernina.ethz.ch>, osuna@isi.ethz.ch (Jose Osuna) writes:
>How can I force latex to put more than 3 tables on the same page?
>Thanks for any suggestions.
>
>(I am new to this group, so I hope I don't bore you with silly
>questions.)
>
>Jose
>
Use here.sty
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From: schneid@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Schneider)
Subject: HELP: LateX margins....
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:22:42 GMT

I *really* hate LaTeX.  Much as I prefer plain TeX, occasionally
I have no choice and must fix some document that has been formatted
in LaTeX.  I am having trouble with the margins this time.

I am using \documentstyle[12pt]{article} and wish to have a
1 inch margin on all sides...that is, I want my text to be
6.5 x 9 inches and centered vertically and horizontally on 
the page.  Presumably I need to use the \textheight, \textwidth,
\oddsidemargin, etc. but can't get these to work the way I'd like.

Please reply by email to schneid@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu.
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: rekers@elc2 (Jan Rekers)
Subject: Re: More than 3 tables on a page
Organization: Department of Mathematics and Computer Science, Leiden University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 08:11:03 GMT

I presume that you mean: How can I force latex to put more than 3
\begin{tabular} ... \end{tabular} pairs on the same page?

Just use one \begin{tabular} ... \end{tabular} pair and put your three
tables and three captions in it.

Jan Rekers
-- 
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P.O. box 9512, 2300 RA Leiden, the Netherlands
email: rekers@rulwi.LeidenUniv.nl
From: carlip@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Walter C3arlip)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: TeX 600dpi fonts
Date: 6 Nov 92 02:36:01 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Ohio University Mathematics

With the recent release of the HP Laserjet 4, there is an increasing demand
for 600dpi pk files for use with this engine.  (I've received several
requests at the OzTeX archive on midway for such fonts.)

Is there any archive that has a set of

  --standard cm font 600dpi pk files?
  --ams font 600dip pk files?

Thanks,

--Walter
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From: andrew@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Andy Biewer)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: MF font tweaking for photo-reduction?
Date: 7 Nov 1992 17:34:28 GMT
Organization: UW-Milwaukee - Language Resource Center
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: andrew@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

Hello again NetPeople,

I am currently working on a document which, when published, will be a
photo-reduced version of a 300dpi printed copy.  Thus, 12pt will be reduced
to approximately 10pt (I don't know the exact percentage of the reduction.)

What I would like to know is if anyone has tweaked the cm fonts (and others)
for such a process, such that, when the 300dpi fonts are reduced they don't
look so rough?  If not, which parameters within METAFONT should I play with?
Or, what other suggestions might you lend?

Thanks much again,

Andy Biewer
Language Resource Center
UW-Milwaukee
From: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Inserts and switching output routines midstream (LaTeX).
Date: 5 Nov 92 12:57:45 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU


One of the features of seminar.sty is that the file can be printed
like an article, with the slides appearing among the notes as floats.
With v0.92, the slides are constructed as \vbox's. For several reasons,
one being to allow slides environments to be divided into multiple
slides by TeX's page-breaking routine, I am changing to a scheme
where LaTeX's output routine is switched over at the beginning of
a slide environment, after saving the contents of the current page:

  \output{\global\setbox\not@slidebox\box\@cclv}%
  \penalty-\@M
  \output{\slide@output}%

The slide environment also switches to its own footnote insert:

  \newinsert\slide@footins
  \long\def\slide@footnotetext#1{\insert\slide@footins{ ...

The slides are saved as they are cut. At the end of the slide
environment, the output routine reverts to LaTeX's default routine,
the page that was saved at the beginning of the environment is
reinserted, and then the slides are inserted: 

  \dimen@=\dp\not@slidebox
  \unvbox\not@slidebox
  \hrule height\z@
  \prevdepth\dimen@
  \penalty\z@
  \ship@slides

The amazing thing, and herein lies my question, is that this works,
or at least as far as I can tell. I would have thought that footnotes
among the notes would mess things up.

For example, suppose there is a footnote just before the slide. After
calling the output routine to save the contents of the page, this
insert is still around. However, TeX ignores it when deciding where
to divide the slides. TeX hasn't forgotten about it, because after
reverting to the standard output routine, TeX breaks the pages of
notes in the right place, and all the footnotes get in. I have even
thrown in a few floats among the notes, and things work.

Does TeX automatically do this kind of thing with inserts when the
definition of \output is changed, or is LaTeX's output routine taking
care of things?

Tim
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