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From: ieeug470@Eagle.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: Re: UNTITLED...
Reply-To: ieeug470@Eagle.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: MSU
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:42:43 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.194734.3102@desire.wright.edu>, bgrueber@desire.wright.edu writes:
>How about Ripening Blood for a collective title. 

 Hey Bob, good idea!!  Thanks!!



> but do enjoy helping others get their owrk prepared for
>publication. 


Could you gimme a hand getting some of my stuff published??



>Enjoy your view of life, and may others see your wisdom.

I don't know if it's wisdom, but thanks...


>Bob 

I really do appreciate C&C, so go ahead and critisize or flame if ya want...


Michael...

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I was drunk, the day my ma got outa prison. And I went to pick her up
in the rain.  But before I could get to the station in my pickup truck,
she got runned over by a damned ole train..."
		The perfect country song by David Allen Coe...
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: michaeln@cs.uq.oz.au (Bunweasel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: remorse
Date: 26 Jul 92 10:30:30 GMT
Reply-To: michaeln@cs.uq.oz.au
Organization: Department of Computer Science, The University of Queensland


i can shrink to the size of a flower
kneel, eyes closed, head hung
breathing slow and shallow
heart deciding on each beat
pale as the cold sinks
further below the skin
colder seizing joints and bones
feel the sadness of the sunset
face taut with a stifled scream
apologies a contradiction
no peace in silence
while the proud weapon at my side
is sticky with blood
	--
one frozen morning
one shivering day
sunlight reluctantly melting the anger
i hardly deserve it
bulbous crystal chill stream over stones
licks away the evil
demands a gift of patience
carries these things like fevered children
gently to the sea
a vast bureaucracy
to document the failings of its people
my record can never be lost
it colours the harmonies of crashing waves
holding me solemn and thankful
on these mossy rocks.

-m.
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From: mcoffin@IASTATE.EDU (Marie Coffin)
Subject: insert the name of your favorite girly here / Marie+Marek
Reply-To: mcoffin@IASTATE.EDU (Marie Coffin)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:45:23 GMT



		insert the name of your favorite girly here
		-------------------------------------------------------------

		if any of you guys wanna use this poem on
		some girl & say you wrote it, by all means
		go right ahead.
		
		yes, & put in some smooth talk about her eyes
		blue, or was it grey?
		but if they're brown you just have to call them soulful
		blue is easier -- there's rain.  or sky.  or sea.
		
		put something here about your two hearts.  intertwined.
		which reached out to each other to become one.
		that one heart will be broken.  when you (sniffle) part.
		
		the next body part is optional & depends on your intentions
		don't make it suggestive unless you leer to suggest.
		if you want purity (like her pure white hands)
		then leave out the breast, the hip & the thigh.
		put in a sigh instead.  & a swoon.
		
		leave out the bed.
		
		yes, put in anything you want
		& if you write it all very cleverly
		and then read it backwards it will say
		
		goodbye.  girly.  goodbye.
		
		
			Marie Coffin / Marek Lugowski
			26 July 1992
			Ames, Iowa / Cincinnati, Ohio
From: ariel_s@west.darkside.com (Ariel S)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: soul
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:30:17 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM



I Met My Soul Out Walking  
  
  
Out walking, 
my body open to embrace the world.
My lover, my love,
the whole world, carressing me
with its breezes, kissing me,  
with sunlight warm and soft, persistant...
And the bird song, and the laughter,
and the loving glances of small children   
I do not know, but who love me 
and I love them.  
Who are you, they whisper  
And I tell them.  But it means nothing -- 
another sighing of the breeze.  
For what I am translates not  
into any words, into any concepts   
already defined by words.  
My soul opens to the world, 
embracing it.  Awaiting it.  
Come and fill me with your bounty.
Carressing.  Annoint me,  
and send me lovers in your name.  
I want to feel you, experience you,   
make love to you,  
my world.  
 
6/15/92 
          * * * 
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From: marek@msel.unh.edu (Marek Lugowski)
Subject: some good and bad reasons to fuck somebody / Marie+Marek
Originator: marek@mermaid.msel.unh.edu
Organization: UNH Marine Systems Engineering Laboratory
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 04:55:41 GMT


		some good and bad reasons to fuck somebody
		-------------------------------------------------------------

		1.

		alas, this may sound crass:
		there are good and bad reasons to fuck somebody.

		love.  lust.  lovelust.  money.  even
		a nice chinese dinner.  these are all good reasons
		to fuck somebody.

		what are some bad reasons?

		2.

		here's a bad reason to fuck somebody:
		
		you come back from spending
		christmas vacation with your family
		so already you're more or less insane,

		and she says she's finally realized
		that she really doesn't love you
		and she needs more space
		and you won't let her grow

		goodbye.

		so you fuck the next girl you
		find
		just to make sure you can still do it,
		especially if you know she won't turn you down
		because she's in love with you.


		3.

		almost anything else is a good reason to fuck somebody.


			Marie Coffin / Marek Lugowski
			21 July 1992
			Ames, Iowa / Cincinnati, Ohio
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From: 78witherspoo@cuavax.dnet.cua.edu
Subject: Things Fall Apart
Organization: The Catholic University of America
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:56:17 GMT

Hi.  I've been tired lately.  Here's why...

		Things Fall Apart

sometimes i feel lowercase

But most times I'm just a normal guy.

Doing all the things that normal g uys do.

Wo  rkin   g.

Pl a y i ng.

(Which takes almost the same amount of time.)

T   rying to g  e   t be  tt  e r.

t   r   yi   n  g to h  o l d i t a l l to ge t h e r,

and sometimes,

Succeeding.  (
		o
		   r
			not
				)

C&C cheerfully accepted at:

78witherspoo@cuavax.dnet.cua.edu

Tom W.(itherspoon)
From: root@bing.UUCP (Administrator)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: Re: Adventure
Date: 28 Jul 92 03:43:28 GMT
Organization: Bing's Rubber Chicken Factory -- "Our clucks are boneless."

cecilw@access.isc-br.com (Cecil Williams) writes:
> 
> To Bing Bang:
> If any part of my post "Re: Adventure"  
> looked even remotely offensive,
> to you or anyone else,
> I hereby publicly apologize.
> It was definitely not intended
> to be racist or offensive 
> in any way!
> 
It's always nice to find a fellow "kimchi breath".  :)
no offense was taken.
> Cecil

--
Bing H Bang                                  +---------------------------+
Senior Systems Analyst                       | This is my home computer. |
National Data Corporation, Atlanta, GA       | I do not speak for NDC.   |
uucp: gatech!warlord!bing!root               +---------------------------+
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From: mcoffin@IASTATE.EDU (Marie Coffin)
Subject: morning is a subtle form of torture / Marie Coffin
Reply-To: mcoffin@IASTATE.EDU (Marie Coffin)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:13:10 GMT

	morning is a subtle form of torture
	----------------------------------------
	
	when i am tired,
	which is always,
	because morning is a subtle form
	of torture
	invented by the god-fearing
	and virtuous to keep
	the rest of us in line,
	
	when i'm tired,
	which is always,
	because i stay up half the night
	bringing you closer on the phone,
	
	when i'm tired and i think
	that being alone for one more day
	is more than i can bear,
	i imagine arms holding me
	not any arms --
	the hair on them is dark and silky
	completely smooth; the hands
	are huge.
	
	they are, of course, your arms
	and they encircle me
	in a private peace
	where all problems have
	solutions
	where i am safe.
	
	when i am tired,
	when i am treaded and re-treaded 
	and i think
	i might not see you again
	and all safety is a lie
	because my exhausted mind 
	doesn't work anymore,
	i close my eyes:
	come back soon
	and with your huge hands
	we will write the truth.


Marie Coffin
July 20, 1992
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Subject: couldn't find rec.arts.erotica
From: <GE0QC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Sunday, 26 Jul 1992 02:36:02 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

There is rope hanging from my tree
A man in the loop, he's looking at me
Man, does he look like me


Hugo
ge0qc@cunyvm
From: michaeln@cs.uq.oz.au (Bunweasel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: lock
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:14:38 GMT
Reply-To: michaeln@cs.uq.oz.au
Organization: Department of Computer Science, The University of Queensland

( Here I outline my motivations and       )
(  confess to using cheap devices.        )

( Again, pointed at the opposing Michael, )
(  may he find solace in a dictionary,    )
(and a whole bunch of other words besides,)
(  and spell them correctly more often.   )

(  Ah, what ever happened to     )
( elegance, dignity, the old Don.)

	lock
	----

i describe the stupid details
make up things i can't quite see
find god in my toothpaste
the world in fuzzy fungus
feel compelled
to record these things
as training for later life
because my greatest fear
is having nothing to do
when they lock me away forever
and i'm sure to be locked away
for something.

		-- Michael Norris.


---------------------  /\/\/\/- --------------------------------------
Only once you have found a cliff can you curl your toes over the edge.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Subject: Re: Composition
From: sturner@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:43:41 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

In article <13831@borg.cs.unc.edu>, denelsbe@washington.cs.unc.edu (The KevMan) writes:
> 
> 		Composition
> 
> 	If I should draw forth your ebony secrets,
> 	And we then duet on some pianissimo moments,
> 	Trust that I play very forgetfully around others,
> 	Remembering only 4' 33".


How clever!  Your reference to 4' 33" which the composer's name evades me but
the time amount is the length of the composition in which the pianist simply
sits for four minutes and 33 seconds and the audience noise makes up the work.
I think that some poets should work this way.
sharon




> 
> ---------
> Kev @ UNC
> 7/14/92
> -- 
> || +------------------+  With the fabric of reality shredding all around him,
> ||-| Kev @ UNC        |  the Headless Horseman threw the banana at Ichabod
> ||-| Master Poetaster |  Crane.
> || +------------------+                      -- from a Sentence Game
From: barclay@RAIL9000.gatech.edu (Barclay Blanchard)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: Re: how does the garden grow
Date: 25 Jul 92 16:56:50 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute

I found this poem beautiful.

-- 
Barclay Elizabeth Blanchard    barclay@rail9000@gatech.edu
"I've been laughed at by some of the funniest people."
--Lissie, Alice Walker's _The Temple of My Familiar_
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From: gatchall@rtsg.mot.com (Scott W. Gatchall)
Subject: Author of quote needed ..
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:00:43 GMT

I've got a quote from a poem that's really bugging me
because I'm not sure of the title or author of the
poem.  Could someone please e-mail me with this info?

quote (something like this):

"Do not go gently into that good night.
 Rage.
 Rage.
 Against the fading of the light."

Thanks ...



-- 
=========================================================
Scott W. Gatchall        |   scottg%isdgsm@rtsg.mot.com |
Motorola, Inc.           |                              |
=========================================================
From: cecilw@access.isc-br.com (Cecil Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: 100YRS
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:03:50 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, Spokane, WA





	What do you think is
	the most amazing thing
	that's happened in the 
	past 100 years?

	Advances in Medicine?
	Disposable diapers?
	Man on the moon?
	Nintendo games?
	Computers?

	When this question was asked
	of an Old Man, a Native American, 
	one who's breathed the air of this planet 
	every day of those 100 years; 
	a man who has witnessed a century 
	of civilization and technological progress, 
	he replied: 

	"Man's inhumanity to Man..."







Cecil   7/26/92
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: Attention i received
From: ddcoffman@acs.harding.edu (CyberDragon)
Date: 26 Jul 92 02:15:29 -0500
Reply-To: ddcoffman@acs.harding.edu
Organization: Harding University


this is an official expression of gratitude from me to those who made the
numerous comments about my few posted writings... there are several who
sent e-mail and those that necessitate resposes will get them as soon as 
i have more time to do so, so if it takes a week or two please don't think
i'm ignoring you.  again, many thankyous...
From: zen@death.corp.sun.com (d)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: I feel silly writing such a thing, but...
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:24:30 GMT
Organization: savage hackers
NNTP-Posting-Host: death.corp.sun.com


we met with others in a bar
sat in a circle not that far
where al stewart played guitar
it was such a big cliche
we never said a word
but looked with eyes that flamed
is love ever a mistake?

the gift of gab i havent got
my tongue and stomach were tied in knots
we walked by a clock that had stopped
seemed like a sign from fate
but you know that like time
omens come far too late
is love ever a mistake?

we spent a day maybe ten
really talking (and having sex)
but you know in retrospect
more former would have been great
and when i saw that clock again
hands were spinning on its face
is love ever a mistake?

now of course we never speak
horse we rode was much too cheap
for carrying us across that leap
of blindness and of faith
bambi was beautiful
but deep as her namesake
is love ever a mistake?
From: boutell@isis.cshl.org (Tom Boutell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: TB: POEM: Dr. Everhardt's Office
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:30:44 GMT
Organization: Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory
Originator: boutell@athena

Dr. Everhardt's Office
----------------------

Dr. Everhardt's office,
The heaven of old magazines,
Now asks me
For my medical history.

And without a pause I riff into the past:
Surgery? Yes. I can't hear you anyway.
Hospitalization? Yes. A small child

Heard stories about Halloween,
Got candy in hospitals, every year,
Laughed at costumes. Ghosts don't hold a candle
To the sick that child saw, that child felt. But he knew

His time hadn't found him yet. Which is why
He begged to walk, the one October he wasn't sick 
And instead spent All Hallow's on the operating table,
The double hernia he'd traded for his life
Catching a tree branch on the way to Earth
Having only just been sown up. Which is why

He endured the endless detail work
On his right ear, the one attached to his soul,
Only to stop at the edge of hearing
Because he wouldn't be able to swim,
The doctors said,
And doing was better than hearing. Which is why

He refused to drink, at first, having had
Enough anesthesia for ten lifetimes. Which is why

When the truck hit his bicycle and he flew,
Taking the pavement with him,
Into a grove of poison ivy, his main complaint

Was the infernal itching. Which is why
He will damn well get through
These present troubles.

So I'll wait patiently to meet you, Dr. Everhardt,
And I'll turn my thoughts from the insistent pain
In my throat, that for once keeps my mouth shut.
I know the drill. My courage is screwed
To the sticking - point. Five years of allergy shots
During the yellow - skied pollen season
Have made needles comic, though I can't abide dispsticks.
Test my reflexes anyway: call my name
And I will still answer. The body endures,
Even lives, even sings, which is why

I so rarely speak of the sickly past.
This one catalogue of misery will have to do,

Dr. Everhardt. The rest of my poems choose to sing.

-T

-- 
Tom Boutell (Editor, VOICE Magazine)
boutell@cshl.org
Believe it or not there is life after college. At least if you live
near NYC.
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From: ieeug470@Eagle.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: Re: Doctors can be right too : )
Reply-To: ieeug470@Eagle.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: MSU
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:08:01 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.185010.27835@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, alam@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ALAM AFSHAN) writ
>
>Hey okay so I went overboard. This poetry thing
>does go to one's head a bit.How do you all stay
>sane? Or do you?:-)
>
>Afshan Alam.




Hey, sane--US???  Hell no!!!

Sanity is forgiven
Hell is everlasting
Heaven a myth
Pain all we have.

Michael...

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You don't have to call me darlin, darlin.  You never even called me
by my name....
		David Allen Coe
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: golds_ss@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Stuart S Goldstone)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re: Stars and refunds
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:44:15 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore

In article <tvpm5l@lynx.unm.edu> bevans@carina.unm.edu (Mathemagician) writes:
> In article <4pyxakp@rpi.edu> garrem@vccsouth16.its.rpi.edu
> (Matthew Olsen Garretson) writes:
> >
> >...no one with
> >a clue would want to pay to see an understudy (unless they know it's a really
> >good understudy). Maybe during the stars' vacations, the show should just be
> >put on hold. They could extend the run to make up the lost $$.
>
> I'll happily see an understudy if I have any interest in a show at
> all.  I rarely see something because someone is in it unless I know
> said person personally (I always make an attempt to see friends'
> work.)  I will, however, avoid something because of somebody (I cannot
> stand Tom Cruise and will not willingly see anything he's in.)

	I don't know, usually I will go see a show even if the understudy is
playing that day, but there are times when one shouldn't.  One that leaps to
mind is DEATH AND THE MAIDEN; it seems to me the whole play is a vehicle for
Glenn Close, and having seen it with her, I wouldn't think of going to see
it without seeing Close personally.  Also, a few weeks ago I went to see THE
WILL ROGERS FOLLIES, and I saw Cady Huffman's understudy for Ziegfield's
Favorite.  Believe me, you could TELL she was the understudy.  It's a
shame.  I shudder to think what they're going to do with the part when Marla
Maples takes over...

-- 
         Stuart S. Goldstone	      |      "Christianity is like a shoe;
Internet: golds_ss@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu |	       if you don't fit into it,
       BITNET: golds_ss@jhuvms	      |	        we cut your toes off!"
         GEnie: S.GOLDSTONE1          |
From: CHUCK@POLY-EAST-LONDON.AC.UK (Chuck Foster)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Newsies
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:44:44 GMT

I went to see "Lawnmower Man" last night, and one of the adverts that came
on beforehand was about a new Disney Musical film called "Newsies" I think.
Has anybody seen it in the States? Is it any good?!!!!

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From: calexan1@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER  ALEXANDER)
Subject: Re: Guys and Dolls Question...
Originator: calexan1@c00523-118rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: calexan1@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER  ALEXANDER)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:33:26 GMT



|>Actually, it was Carolyn Magnini (I remember her only because I saw her in
|>Tintypes many years ago, with Lynne Thigpen who currently plays the DA in
|>LA Law, or some other lawyer show).  Anyway, as I recall, she got the boot
|>a week or two before opening, not on opening night itself.  Jose de Guzman
|>was the understudy, and rather than hiring someone else to play the role,
|>she ended up getting it.

While she may also be on another show, the only place I've seen Lynne Thigpen
is on a wonderful PBS game show for kids called

Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?

She plays the "chief," and is one of the best parts of the show, the a capella
rock group (appropriately named Rockappella) being the other. If you have
time on your hands, watch it. It's for a children but every once in a while 
is a great deal of fun for those of us older than 10 as well.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Alexander       |"Perhaps everything terrible is, in its deepest form,
calexan1@eos.ncsu.edu | something helpless that wants help from us."
                      |                     -Rainer Maria Rilke
---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
Go IceCaps    |                  My spotlight goalie:
   Blackhawks |          the Chicago Blackhawks Dominik Hasek
   Hornets    | Dr. Dom basically kept the flicker of hope in the hearts of
   Wolfpack   | Hawk fans (like me) during the last game of the Cup series.
From: shaevel@Apple.COM (Jeff Shaevel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re: STARMITES
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:06:18 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

CSC3GSG@VAXC.HOFSTRA.EDU (Gary Graffagnino) writes:

>I saw a little clip on the 1989 Tony Awards where the show was nominated for
>best musical.  It looked pretty bad.  The music was unpleasant as was the
>staging.  But, there may be someone out there who liked it.

It is a silly, frothy nothing of a show that had no business being on B-way.
HOWEVER:  I saw an excellent production of it in community theatre last year,
and it was smash hit.  The cast was strong, with lots of energy and charm, and 
the theatre was not very large.  I think that helps this kind of show.  The 
audience was completely captivated and was vocally enthusiastic.  I had a wonder-
ful time.

I think that a community production that gives the characters a lot of heart,
and isn't afraid of being silly and embracing the comic book shallowness of the 
story can do wonders with the show.

I wish this production all the best...
-- 
Jeff Shaevel        :-)-: (comedy/tragedy)    Love may be blind, 
shaevel@apple.com                             but lust is autistic.
From: ian.evans@bville.gts.org (Ian Evans) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Stars and refunds
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:15:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Baudeville BBS - Toronto, Canada 416-283-0114/6059* *v32bis/HST
Reply-To: ian.evans@bville.gts.org (Ian Evans) 

Rumour has it that Carson T Schutze said to All regarding
Stars and refunds...

CT>where refunds/exchanges are offered?  E.g., if Wilkinson fell ill during
CT>Les Miz, would anyone be compensated?  How about planned vacations that
CT>are announced after one has ordered tickets (which happened to me when
CT>Wilkinson took July off from Phantom in Toronto last year)?  Is one
CT>relying on the good will of the theatre in such cases, or are there
CT>rules requiring compensation?

Well, working at the Pantages as a supervisor, I have to handle this quite
often.  We don't bill our show in the ads as starring anybody.  When you
buy a ticket, you're buying one to the Phantom of the Opera, not POTO
starring Colm Wilkinson or Mary D'Arcy.  It states on the back of the
ticket that we're not liable for cast changes.  For example, Colm is
currently on leave from July 28th to October 7th.  Jeff Hyslop will be
performing the role and the posters at the theatre, the pictures in the
displays, etc. all reflect this.  That is, you won't see any mention of
Wilkinson anywhere except the program (which will have a stuffer indicating
the new casting).

"Joseph" might be slightly different as they specifically bill Donny
Osmond.

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