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From: reimert@mamacass.etdesg.trw.com (Scott P. Reimert)
Subject: Re: what to do about bandits?
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 22:21:42 GMT

In article <2326@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch) writes:
>How the *$^% do you avoid bandits, rogues, et. al.?  I can't for the
>life of me build up enough money to buy anything worth having.  I've
>never been able to make it out of the dungeon with more than about
>900 in gold, because inevitably the bandits show up and take most of
>it.  How do I get rid of them?
>
>Daniel Welch

			Kill 'em

"I wanna see blood, guts, gore, and veins in my teeth!"
	-Arlow Guthry in "Alices Restaraunt"

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From: mjb@acsu.buffalo.edu (Matthew J. Bernhardt)
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
Subject: Re: Guru Help Wanted: Nasty Monsters
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:50:50 GMT
Organization: UB

eye@lesti.hut.fi (Petri M Kuittinen) writes:

>In article <1992Aug29.024550.5665@jlc.mv.com> scot@jlc.mv.com (Scot Salmon) writes:
>   Does this character have any chance against an EL or AMHD? I ran into both
>   recently, circa 2000' and left the EL alone, since people here say that by
>   the time you kill it, it's drained you so much it wasn't worth it. I hacked
>   at the AMHD for a few rounds before deciding to ask for expert advice...

>Even if my mage charachter doesn't have any permanent speed items, he has
>killed 6 ELs (the first one on level 33) sofar and few of the fights have
>been real easy. My basic tactic was to first cast a spell of haste self and
>then start blasting EL with wands of drain lifes.

	Since ELs are UNDEAD, they are IMMUNE to Wands of Drain Life.  This
could explain why your battles have been difficult.
	Try lightning bolts instead.
-- 
Matt Bernhardt
University of Buffalo             THIS SPACE FOR RENT.
mjb@acsu.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
From: frankj@ifi.uio.no (Frank Tore Johansen)
Subject: Re: Multi-player moria.
Reply-To: frankj@ifi.uio.no
Organization: University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:53:49 GMT
Originator: frankj@hnoss.ifi.uio.no


In article <cloister.714461098@milton>, cloister@milton.u.washington.edu (cloister bell) writes:
> joses@cs.tamu.edu (Batman the Destroyer) writes:
> 
> >Hi moria fans,
> 
> >Somebody told me that there is a multi-player version of moria where
> >teams of players get to go down into the dungeon and fight the mosters
> >or each other.
> 
> >Has anybody else heard of this?
> 
> yes.  it's called "mud" and there are more instances and types of it than i
> shall discuss here.  you might wanna check out one or more of the alt. groups
> which have "mud" in their name.  :)

I`d say my multiplayer game looks more like moria than muds.  Unfortunately
you need UNIX and X-windows to get anywhere with it.  If you want to try
it, get the latest version from ftp.ifi.uio.no in the /pub/crossfire
directory.

-Frank.
From: Stefan_Muench@un.maus.de (Stefan Muench)
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
Subject: Re: Way to Even Play
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 06:32:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.11

Well, THEN you must demand that elves can't reach 18/100 strength,
dwarves can't reach 18/100 intelligence (and so on) either.

Don't forget, it IS harder to get a stat from 18/90 to 18/100 than
from 17 to 18 (for example), cause you need more potions.

see ya, sm
From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
Subject: Re: This time, I was luckier...
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:59:27 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

In article <27AUG199217393935@deimos.ucc.umass.edu> s9971818@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (S9971818) writes:
>
>-=> Jonathan <=-
>
>PS.  Following from the (true) story above, what is the most powerful item
>     you have ever found at 50 feet?  (and I mean ONLY 50 feet)

	Well, just yesterday I found a potion of Gain Dexterity at 50'.  Of
course, since I'm a 34th level half-troll priest who was waiting to get 
stocked up on Identify scrolls, it wasn't so thrilling.

	Then there was the half-orc rogue who found a Two-Handed Sword (Zwei-
hander) at 50'.  Since he could wield it he did, and didn't notice anything
unusual until he got the message:

	You hit the Clear Icky-Thing (more)-

	This was 4.87, and it was a Slay Monster.

	Then in my very first game ever (also 4.87), I had a fighter find a
Ring of Speed (+1).  I think that's probably the best I'll ever do.

--
"If you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce, they taste more like
prunes than rhubarb does."              -Groucho Marx 

gharris@jade.tufts.edu          George Harris, Tufts Univ. Dept. of Mathematics
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
From: c8944257@cc.newcastle.edu.au
Subject: Re: HA & sustain stats
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 07:19:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.165614.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au>, c8841288@cc.newcastle.edu.au (THEY PUT THEIR HANDS IN THEIR POCKETS) writes:
> 
> Gudday trend setters,
> 
> A simple question about HA weapons ...
> 
> We all know that they sustain stats, but WHICH stats?
> All of them? I've heard it depends on the + to AC, but I don't know.
> An answer to this puzzling question would be much appreciated.
> 
> Thanks ... and keep that Balrog blood flowing!
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 	====== Honorius the Holy Avenger ======
> 
> 	" From a bumber sticker:
> 		' Do Moria players a favour. Run over a Ghost ' "
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Jason Quarry
> University of Newcastle, Australia
> 

	First of all, HELLO fellow novacastrian and fellow student of 
Newcastle Uni.
	Secondly, yes, the sustain stats do depend on the + to AC.  You will
get a + AC of between 1 to 5. The number of the + AC corresponds to the stats
that it will sustain.  Say, +1 will sustain strength, +2 will sustain 
intelligence, +3 will sustain wisdom and so on.

	=====The Balrog's blood will soon flow!!!=====

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<MERLIN>
Wong, Cheok Gid
c8944257@cc.newcastle.edu.au
From: vega@server.uwindsor.ca (VegaMUSE)
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
Subject: Re: monthly BOSS faq list posting
Keywords: boss faq
Date: 3 Sep 1992 23:58:35 GMT
Organization: University of Windsor, Ontario, Canada

Get a IBM version and then we will talk.....


TINI Metal Head/Seer of many Thangs!
Organization: Sophomore, Materials Science and Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
Date: Thu,  3 Sep 1992 15:06:14 -0400 
From: Dylan Sawyer-Villers <ds8t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Scroll of *Destruction*

What does a scroll of *Destruction* do?

What creatures can a scroll of Genocide do?

thanx
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
From: c8944257@cc.newcastle.edu.au
Subject: Re: Guru Help Wanted: Nasty Monsters
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 06:32:47 GMT

> ->Does this character have any chance against an EL or AMHD? I ran into both
> ->recently, circa 2000' and left the EL alone, since people here say that by
> ->the time you kill it, it's drained you so much it wasn't worth it. I hacked
> ->at the AMHD for a few rounds before deciding to ask for expert advice...
> ->
> [character deleted, though I have to say I like the weapon. :) ]
> ->a) You are wielding  : a Ball and Chain (HA) (2d4) (+17,+7) [+3] (+1 to STR).
> Well, I'm afraid you're missing out on your greatest "weapon" against both of
                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> these monsters: speed.  You should probably have at least one speed before
                  ^^^^^

	I agree.  I didn't touch any of these two until I have 2 speed item - 
a boot of speed and a spell. If I were in your situation, the EL won't even see
me around.

> -- 
> dgreen@jarthur.claremont.edu				   David "Mishael" Green
> 		    Have you scritched your local Furry today?
> ***********************Who ordered the muon? -- I. I. Rabi**********************

	I like your ball and chain.  It's fantastic.  Congratulations!

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 MERLIN 
Wong Cheok Gid
c8944257@cc.newcastle.edu.au
Elrond, High King of Noldor and Khazad Dum
From: wachter@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Markku Kristian Wachter)
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
Subject: Re: Resistance..
Date: 2 Sep 92 12:36:01 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In <5250@tuegate.tue.nl> harryw@blade (Harry Wevers) writes:

>Hi. 
>I'm a 32nd level mage running around at 2000 ft (a little wimpy) 
>and I found an armour (R) 
>I know it resists acid,frost,fire, (I can kill almost all dragons)
>But.. does it resist against gas (Green and Multi-hued dragons)
>Generally, is there ANY protection against gas.

	No. Don't get hit. 

-- 
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Army, n. A class of non-producers who defend   | Markku Kristian Wachter
	the nation by devouring everything     | wachter@cc.helsinki.fi
	likely to tempt an enemy to invade.    | Kind of optimist.
From: boelter3945@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
Subject: Re: This time, I was luckier.
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:38:19 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <27AUG199217393935@deimos.ucc.umass.edu>,
   s9971818@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (S9971818) writes:
> 
> PS.  Following from the (true) story above, what is the most powerful item
>      you have ever found at 50 feet?  (and I mean ONLY 50 feet)

   While I haven't been playing nearly as long, this is the best item I came
across at 50'.  I was about 10th-13th(?) level at the time, walking around 50'
in order to pull the old 'reset the shop's inventory' because I needed a Potion
of Restore something-or-other, when I saw what looked like a scroll, and so
went over to pick it up (figuring on maybe a Bless or Identify).

   Imagine my surprise when it asked:

Take Book of Magic Spells [Mage's Guide to Power]? [y/n] 

                                        John "Nightwind" Boelter

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* John Boelter        a.k.a. Nightwind            boelter3945@iscsvax.uni.edu *
* Organizational Manager and contact person for everything and then some.     *
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* of our brain's mental capacity, was      *  Super Slaying" - "It laughs" -  *
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From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
Subject: what to do about bandits?
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:53:26 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

How the *$^% do you avoid bandits, rogues, et. al.?  I can't for the
life of me build up enough money to buy anything worth having.  I've
never been able to make it out of the dungeon with more than about
900 in gold, because inevitably the bandits show up and take most of
it.  How do I get rid of them?

Daniel Welch
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
From: 10563563@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (ARTHUR GIANNAKIS)
Subject: Re: Ego Weapons
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 00:10:51 GMT

In article <1449@newsserver.cs.uwindsor.ca> vega@server.uwindsor.ca (VegaMUSE) writes:
>From: vega@server.uwindsor.ca (VegaMUSE)
>Subject: Ego Weapons
>Date: 30 Aug 92 17:23:11 GMT
>
>	I have the following weapons:
>
>	a (SD) and a (SE) and a (FT) and a (FB)
>
>	*do not member the Stats for them sorry*
>
>	What Should I get rid off?
>
>TINI
You don't metion what sort of weapons they are.............But as a guess 
get rid of the (FB) and the (FT) weapons since the (SD) is very effective 
against dragons (x4 damage) and the (SE) offers (x2 damage) versus evil 
creatures. The (FB) and (FT) only do (x1.5 damage) against heat and cold 
based creatures respectively.....................

		Keep Hackin'............
			The Metallian.
From: murraysd@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Stephen D Murray)
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
Subject: Re: Saber of GODLY MIGHT
Keywords: moria
Date: 31 Aug 92 09:04:13 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.




 Guess who found a mace(+8,+9) [+9] of Godly might in the town? (hee hee hee)

 Guess who then got cocky, did some polymorphing and got an AMHD?

 Guess who breathed gas?

 Guess who died horribly?

 Damn.

 Ah well...

 If you think polymorphing dragons is fun, try finding a little lavender
leprechaun and letting it steal all your gold.Clone it 15 times and wait
until they're all around you in a large room then- frost ball!
(only in Amigamoria 3.0)

Where's the Balrog- I went down to dungeon level 97 and still didn't find him.
(I did find an Ancient green dragon who made my day...)

I now have two rings of increase damage (+5), gloves of slaying (+2+4) and
a dagger of slay evil (+8 +8), with 18/91 dex so I do a lot of damage whenever
I whack something evil.

Off to find some more leprechauns...
(N.B. LITTLE lavender leprechauns, *NOT* large or greedy green. these guys
are nearly as bad as Iggy.

)


Stephen D Murray

President of Amigamoria 3.0 Leprechaun Depreciation Society.
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
From: price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price)
Subject: Re: Warrior Winner!!!
Reply-To: price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Particle Physics Research Group
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 04:13:33 GMT

In article <A13323@UN.maus.de>, Alfred_Schmidt@un.maus.de (Alfred Schmidt) writes:
>>>Just curious, How can you wield a two-handed sword and hold a shield?

>>Not at all. In my view, this is a bug.

>I don't think so. Just consider your str. So you should be abel to wield a
>two handed sword in just one hand and the shield in the other. I think it is
>possible.

I believe that a two-handed sword has a different hilt than a "one-handed" 
sword.  As such, you really need to use two hands with it, just to keep the 
balance right.  Were you to use a two-handed sword with just one hand, that 
should incur a to-hit penalty, IMHO.

           John Price * * * * price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu
           Where there is no solution, there is no problem.
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
From: scot@jlc.mv.com (Scot Salmon)
Subject: AMHD let-down
Organization: John Leslie Consulting, Milford NH
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 01:25:52 GMT

  Well, I finally decided I HAD to have a speed item, so, at the risk of my
level 31 life, I hung around 2500, opening chests and killing d's (not too
many D's), got a Gain Experience potion, got a RoS (-2), then...RoS (+1).
Cool.  So, to prove I can, I kill an EL (not too bad, but LOTS of 'm-a-c' and
'm-b-b' (phase door and lightning bolt for non-mages) plus a few Lightning
Balls...) and get a TON of experience (what, 16000 or so? Enough to advance
another level, anyway...). I'm psyched.
  Now for the feared AMHD...dum dum dum...and a few minutes later, I've killed
one. What a let-down. Used the 'pole' trick and my Staff of Speed, and it
took about 30 seconds. He didn't even touch me, and I used nothing but my
spiffy new Claymore DF (no magic, no wands). And only 15000 experience! What's
up with that?!? I thought this thing was supposed to be tough... =)

  Just wait till I get breathed on, right? I know, I know. So now I'm level
33 with no more tough monsters to kill until the Balrog? I hope not. Somebody
tell me there's SOMETHING between the AMHD and the B for me to kill, or
this is going to be a very boring four levels (level 37 seems popular for B).

-- 
                                          - Scot Salmon (scot@jlc.mv.com)
From: fishtail@milton.u.washington.edu ( )
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
Subject: ego weapons
Date: 30 Aug 92 05:56:34 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

I have the following three weapons:

Lance (DF) (2d8) (+6,+7) [+8] (+2 to Stealth)
Mace (Lead-filled) (HA) (3d4) (+10,+10) [+1] (+2 to Stealth)
Two Hand Sword (Espandon) (SD) (3d6) (+10,+10)

I would like to keep two of the above.  Which two should I keep ???
Suggestions ??

Another question:
What is Gold Crown of Might [0,+2] (+2)  ?  What stat is enhanced with (+2) ??
From: moss_r@summer.chem.su.oz.au (Richard Moss)
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
Subject: using wands on yourself ?
Date: 29 Aug 92 06:07:53 GMT
Followup-To: rec.games.moria
Organization: Sydney University



Hi,

I just started playing moria the other day and was wondering how you use
wands on yourself.  In nethack you zap the wand with '.' to mean on
yourself, but using '5' in moria doesn't work.

Is it possible ?

thanks, 

Richard

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From: markv@isy.liu.se (Mark Vesterbacka)
Subject: female halfling warrior winner
Organization: Dept. of EE., Linkoping Univ.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:30:33 GMT

yesterday i finally killed the Balrog after 9 months of playing
i had been playing for two weeks with my female halfling warrior
Mirabella when she found her second ring of speed, poor Mr Balrog
didn't stand a chance, using some potions of invulnebarity and
increasing her speed with staffs of speed and hitting the B with
her Two-Handed Sword (Claymore) (HA) (3d6) (+10,+10) ended the fight within two
minutes without Mirabella losing a single hit-point!

unfortunately i did the mistake to not save the character description
to file
anyway her stats were all 18/100 except INT 18/99, she had reached the
level 37, her equipment included

	two Rings of Speed for killing Mr B
	a Two-Handed Sword (Claymore) (HA) for general killing
	a Cloak of Stealth (+1) for surprising monsters
	a Pike (DF) (+2 to stealth) for really surprising monsters
	an Augmented Chain Mail (R) for protection
	an Amulet of the Magi to not fall asleep during fights

	+ minor things like a Set of Leather Gloves of Slaying (+3,+3),
	  a Steel Helmet of Infravision (+5), ...

standard kit for survival included

	about 50 Scrolls of Phase Door (to get distance to certain monsters)
	some Staffs of Teleportation (to get real distance to AMHDs)
	scrolls + Staff of Light (to detect the AMHDs and alikes)
	lots of food and lots of oil to the Brass Lantern
	about 10 Potions of Cure Serious Wounds (cures Blindness, ...)

and inventory items for making life easier included

	lots of Potions of Restore Life Levels
	about 10 Scrolls of Word of Recall
	any offensive wand to terminate disenchanter things

so this was it?
From: hlr@aber.ac.uk (Hazel Marie Davey)
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
Subject: Moria 5.5 source files (now what?)
Summary: HELP NEEDED
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:07:24 GMT
Followup-To: <none>
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

(Sorry if this is a duplicate message, I don't think my last attempt
got through).

Anyway the question is:-

I've been playing Moria version 4.873 for some time and have just 
got the files for Moria 5.5 from Comp.sources.games as advertised 
in this news group a few days ago.

I'd better point out at this point that I've never attempted to get
a game in this way before, I usually rely on someone else handing me a 
floppy disk with a "ready to run" program.

So here's my problem:

I've extracted all the files with 'sh' and run bldfiles.sh. I want to run
the game on an IBM compatible PC running DOS 5.0. So what do I do now?
Do I have to copy all of the files in the 'sources' directory and the 
'ibmpc' directory from my mainframe file store to my PC's hard disk and 
compile them myself or are there already executable files hidden in 
there somewhere. 

(I'm not really interested in hacking the source code to
create a 'modified' version of the game as a) I don't have time and 
b) I'm a (very) novice C programmer.)

I really want to get playing v 5.5 as I've heard said in the news group 
that it is far better than the version I'm playing.

All help appreciated (especially if its in very basic terms),
either via the news group or by Email.

Many thanks in advance

Hazel   (hlr@uk.ac.aber)
From: murraysd@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Stephen D Murray)
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
Subject: A most unusual dilemma
Date: 28 Aug 92 11:52:20 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.



I started a new character yesterday, and was presented with a very unusual
choice- the first item I found at 50 ft was an amulet (in itself unusual),
and I decided to go up the stairs to the town to sell it and get some
better armour(I had spent all my dosh on magik I and II). When I spent
my remaining gold to get an identify scroll, I was rather shocked to see:-

'a sapphire amulet of the magi' 

Wow!

I sold it for 6700 gold, and bought lots of armor, enchant weapon scrolls,
staff of detect invisible, word of recall scrolls, restore life level potions,
a dagger +1+3 (stilletto) (after enchanting it from +1+1) and the other
magik book.

The question is, should I have held on to the amulet in the hope that I'd
survive long enough to get the benefit of it? (I was only level 2 at the time)
I don't back up so I figured this was the safer option- have I made a ghastly
mistake though and thrown away one of the best items in the game?

Anwyay, Alucard the mage is now level 31 with a dagger (+5+8) SE and 18/90
dex, two rings of increase damage (+5 and +4) and gauntlets of slaying (+4+4),
so he's wasting everything in sight( I found a wand of clone monster and
an ancient blue dragon, and I have resist lightning armor, hee hee hee....)
but I haven't found any more amulets of the magi.  

 Stephen D Murray

<murraysd@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
From: 10563563@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (ARTHUR GIANNAKIS)
Subject: Re: Which is better?
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 08:14:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.131945.22125@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> ts@chainsaw.ecn.purdue.edu (Thomas Ruschak) writes:
>From: ts@chainsaw.ecn.purdue.edu (Thomas Ruschak)
>Subject: Which is better?
>Date: 3 Sep 92 13:19:45 GMT
>Which is better, and why? (I have strength to carry, no prob)
>
>Soft Studded Leather (R) [5,+8]
>Ribbed Plate Armor (-3) [28,+2]
>
>Thanks!
>
>Thomas
I'ts a pity the (R) armour is only soft studded leather.......It all depends 
whether your fussy about your armour class or not or if you don't have any 
other items which offer resistance. If not then by all means keep the
(R) armour since you get resistance against fire, frost, acid and lightning 
(it's nice when your armour isn't affected by acid......). You get no gas 
resistance however.......Then again if you're like me and try to get your 
armour class as HIGH as you can get it then you'd probably wait till 
something better comes along, Ribbed Plate Armour (R), possibly.............

			Keep Hackin'.................
				The Metallian.
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria