HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: timhu@ico.isc.com (Timothy Hu)
Subject: Re: Beginner fax user's questions... 
Organization: Interactive Systems Corp., Boulder CO
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:33:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.175038.7527@ncsu.edu> odkahn@eos.ncsu.edu (OPHER DANIEL KAHN) writes:
>Can someone give me a short tutorial on computer fax boards:
>
>  1.  Can you fax other things besids text (without a scanner- i.e 
>		Postscript and other formats).
>  2.  How do you view incoming faxes?  Do fax boards come with the
>		required software for such viewing?  Can the faxes be converted
>		to a form that can print on a laser printer?
>  3.  Are the fax boards able to distinguish human/fax calls?
>  4.  Any other relevant info I may need to consider before investing in
>		this, including recommendations on relatively cheap fax/modem boards.

1. This depends on the software you're using. Most fax software packages that I
know of will convert text, tiff, etc. into a bitmap format that is then sent
out. For instance, Quick Link II will convert PCL, tiff and various other
formats to what they call "QFX" format.

2. Faxes are viewed in two ways: By the fax program itself or by any graphics
program (e.g. paintbrush) after conversion to the proper format by the fax
package.

3. Yes, there are fax/modem boards available that can detect what kind of call
is incoming (voice/fax/modem). Look in the trade rags for these (e.g. Computer
Shopper).

4. Sorry, there are so many brands with different features that I won't cover
them here. Perhaps you can locate past issues of the various trade rags for
reviews on fax/modems.
-- 
Timothy Hu timhu@ico.isc.com	 | The intelligence (or lack of) expressed
Interactive Systems Corporation  | above does not necessarily reflect
Resource Solutions International | that of anyone else.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: rizzo@eng.wayne.edu (Frank Rizzo 7-0390)
Subject: printing netfax 3.2.1 incomming faxes
Reply-To: rizzo@eng.wayne.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Wayne State University, Detroit Michigan, USA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:22:13 GMT

I'm having a problem with printing incoming faxes.
I wrote a script to use the log file that faxspooler sends via e-mail to
automatically print the g3 file.  My problem comes when I convert the
g3 file to Sun rasterfile or PostScript.  If I convert to rasterfile, then
the fax'd data is at 196x196 dpi resolution... when printed at 300 dpi it is
only 1/4 of the page up in the left corner.  When I convert to PostScript, then
the data is also too small.  I've tried the following conversions.

g3topbm | pbmtorast | lpr						 (too small)
g3topbm | pgmtops | lpr							 (too small)
g3topbm | pgmtops -scale .3| lpr		       (too wide, not enough height)
g3topbm | ppmscale -width 600 -height 825 - | ppmtorast | lpr		(too blurry)


Does anybody have a program which will rescale a g3 fax file to full page?  
I have the option of printing to a Laserwriter NT or Sun SPARCprinter.


---
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Frank F. Rizzo                               Rm. 2410                    |
| Network Manager, Postmaster                  Engineering Computer Center |
| Phone: (313) 577-0390                        Wayne State University      |
| FAX #: (313) 577-5969                        5050 Anthony Wayne Drive    |
| WSU-PROFS: frizzo                            Detroit, Michigan  48202    |
| Internet: Frank_Rizzo@eng.wayne.edu          USA                         |
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: cristy@eplrx7.es.duPont.com (Cristy)
Subject: Re: NetFax 3.2.1 & *normal* resolution
Organization: DuPont Central Research & Development
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:41:42 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.155715.28785@itf.ch> mpeppler@itf.ch (Michael Peppler) writes:
>I've got NetFax 3.2.1 talking to an Everex faxmodem on a Sun. This
>works with no major problems, but it only knows how to send faxes in
>"FINE" resolution. Does anyone know how to get NetFax to send in
>"NORMAL" resolution? (the reason is that we're getting huge phone
>bills....)

Change VR_FINE to VR_NORMAL in send.c of lib/libfax.
-- 
cristy@dupont.com
From: aaron@nis.hk.net (Aaron Y.T. Cheung)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Building flexfax v2.1beta for SunOS: can't find <osfcn.h>
Date: 28 Jan 1993 21:51:01 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

HI. I've been trying to build flexfax v21beta.src.tar.Z on a
SparcStation 1+ with SunOS 4.1.2 and gcc-2.3.3;  after configuring
with "configure sun4" and executed "make", it built the libtiff.a
OK, but when it proceeded to do the makedepend in directory iv,
it failed with error message of failing to locate file <osfcn.h>
etc, and quitted.

Did I miss something in the process?  I've find'ed thru the
/usr/include directory and the source tree of gcc-2.3.3, but
still can't find the osfcn.h include file..., but there are
some 18 references of this file in the flexfax package?

Would appreciate any pointers to get it going, thanks!

Kind regards,
Aaron Cheung, Hong Kong
<aaron@hk.net>

PS: the make log follows:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[...]
= iv
\t../port/sun4/mkdepend   -e 's@ /usr/include/@ /@' -e 's@ /@ /@' -s C++ -e 's@\.c++\.o: @\.o: @' -c /usr/local/bin/gcc -ansi -D__ANSI_CPP__ -I. -Dsparc -Dsun -I. -I../port/sun4 -I../util -I../iv -I../libtiff -g -x c++ -M -i Makedepend Dispatch/dispatcher.c++ Dispatch/iohandler.c++ OS/memory.c++ InterViews/regexp.c++
Dispatch/dispatcher.c++:32: osfcn.h: No such file or directory
InterViews/regexp.c++:30: stream.h: No such file or directory
/usr/local/bin/gcc -ansi -D__ANSI_CPP__     -I.  -Dsparc -Dsun -I. -I../port/sun4 -I../util -I../iv -I../libtiff -g -x c++ -c Dispatch/dispatcher.c++
Dispatch/dispatcher.c++:32: osfcn.h: No such file or directory
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dispatcher.o'
Current working directory /home/hkigs/aaron/src/flexfax/iv
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `default'
Current working directory /home/hkigs/aaron/src/flexfax/iv
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dirs'
Current working directory /home/hkigs/aaron/src/flexfax
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `default'
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: wjk@Phonogenic.COM (Bill Keenan)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Q: PostScript Fax option for HP or Apple
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 10:31:00 PDT
Organization: Phonogenic Systems Corporation
Reply-To: wjk@Phonogenic.COM (Bill Keenan)
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1

Is there a PostScript fax option for either the LaserJet 4M,
LaserWriter Pro 600, or LaserWriter Pro 630? I don't think either HP or
Apple has this option, but perhaps some third party does.

________________________________________________________________________________
Bill Keenan, President          | Voice:      415/365-1083
Phonogenic Systems Corporation  | Fax:        415/365-1083
PO Box 3535                     | Internet:   wjk@Phonogenic.COM
Redwood City CA 94064-3535      | UUCP:       phngnc!wjk or netcom!phngnc!wjk
USA                             | AppleLink:  wjk@Phonogenic.COM@INTERNET#
                                | CompuServe: >INTERNET:wjk@Phonogenic.COM

This country borrows about $4.25 per day per US resident (that is $17/day
for a family of 4) with little hope of paying any of the principal!
From: egoldbl@uswnvg.com (Ed Goldbloom)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: MHS Compatible Fax Servers?
Date: 21 Jan 93 23:21:57 GMT
Organization: U S WEST NewVector Group, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


We currently have Several Sequent machines running DYNEX/ptx (Unix
System V).  The Unix machines are connected with an Ethernet network
using TCP/IP.  We would like to be able to write applications in this
environment that are able to send faxes.  I picture applications
writing an ASCII file, and passing it off to Oracle*Mail to do the
routing to a fax gateway.  Oracle*Mail will support MHS compatible fax
servers.  We would prefer a PC, connected to the Ethernet, with fax 
cards as a fax server.

Any ideas about a configuration that might meet these specifications?

Thanks in advance for your help.

--
+--------------------------------------------------------+
|  Ed Goldbloom            U S West NewVector Group      |
|  egoldbl@uswnvg.com                                    |
+--------------------------------------------------------+
From: aaron@nic.hk.net (Aaron Y.T. Cheung)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Netfax-3.2.1 with EverFax 24/96E (EV967-02 prom) timing out
Date: 22 Jan 1993 04:31:03 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I'm using an EverFax 24/96E (supposedly the newer model compatible with
the already-discontinued D version), and in particular, the ati commands
reports the followings:

ati4 --> EV967-02
ati5 --> MNP CLASS 5  FAX 24/96
ati7 --> 911027

And I'm driving it with fax-3.2.1 (gnu-make'ed okay) and ghostscript-2.5.2
(with "DEVICE_DEVS=dfaxhigh.dev dfaxlow.dev" compiled in), on both a
SparcStation 1+ and a SparcSystem 330 running SunOS 4.1.2.

Now, the problem is, having had the faxspooler started by cron and
when I submit a faxps job, the EverFax dialed out to the fax machine,
but cannot get past the negotiation stage; eventually faxspooler timed
out, with a syslog entry of read time out (which traces to being 
triggered by an EINTR signal). I've tested it with 5 or 6 different 
brands of fax machines... but still the same timeout problem prevails.

The question being, do I need do any patching on the netfax source
to use the 24/96E with EV967-02 prom?  Any suggestions?

I've also tried the same package with the sunos-&-xyzel patch
with a xyzel modem, and, instead of timing out, it just got 
hanged forever.

Anyone had similar experience?  Would appreciate some hints
to get it going...

Best regards,
Aaron Cheung, Hong Kong.
aaron@hk.net
Xref: sparky comp.dcom.fax:2537 comp.os.vms:22231 vmsnet.misc:1193
From: kegg@tet.uni-hannover.de (Kai Eggers)
Subject: file format of Winfax2.0 
Reply-To: kegg@tet.uni-hannover.de
Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Elektrotechnik, Univ. Hannover
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 08:25:06 GMT


Hi,
does anyone know how to edit recieved faxes from Winfax2.0 ? What type are
these files of?
Many thanks in advance

Bye Kai

*=====================================*
          ____
|  /     |
| /      |____
|/\      |
|  \     |
|   \ ai |____ g g e r s 

kegg@tet.uni-hannover.de
*=====================================*


Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: mpeppler@itf.ch (Michael Peppler)
Subject: NetFax 3.2.1 & *normal* resolution
Organization: ITF Management SA, Geneva, Switzerland
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:57:15 GMT

I've got NetFax 3.2.1 talking to an Everex faxmodem on a Sun. This
works with no major problems, but it only knows how to send faxes in
"FINE" resolution. Does anyone know how to get NetFax to send in
"NORMAL" resolution? (the reason is that we're getting huge phone
bills....)

Thanks!

Michael
-- 
Michael Peppler	                       mpeppler@itf.ch
ITF Management SA                      mpeppler@bix.com                         
13 Rue de la Fontaine                  Phone: (+4122) 312 1311  
CH-1204 Geneva, Switzerland            Fax:   (+4122) 312 1325
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: anders@dit.lth.se (Anders Ardo)
Subject: Help with netfax-3.2.1
Organization: Department of Computer Engineering, Lund University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:41:16 GMT

I have to move an fax modem from a PC (were it works with both
Bitfax and WinFax as a class 2 faxmodem) to a SUN ELC.
The modem is called ACEEX DM9624VE.
So I tried netfax-3.2.1 (includingthe recent patches) with no big success
as you can see from the traces below. Can anyone help me?
Or maybe give some hints what needs to be fixed in netfax?
Are there any other PD faxprograms for Unix that could be worth looking at?

   Thanks for your help.
      Anders
 Anders Ardo   Dept. of Computer Engineering       University Library, UB2
               University of Lund, P.O. Box 118    P.O. Box 3
               S-221 00  Lund, Sweden              S-221 00  Lund, Sweden
Tel:           int+46 46 107522                    int+46 46 104456
               fax: int+46 46 104714
E-mail:        anders@dit.lth.se                   anders@munin.ub2.lu.se
=========================================================================
Identification:
===============
atz
OK
at+fmfr?
EXAR
 
OK
at+fmdl?
9624,RC9623DPL
 
OK
at+frev?
Oct-7-1992
 
OK
at+fdcc=?
(0-1),(0-3),(0-3),(0-2),(0-2),(0),(0),(0-7)
 
OK
at+fdis=?
(0-1),(0-3),(0-3),(0-2),(0-2),(0),(0),(0-7)
 
Trying to send with faxsend:
============================
(gen.c:55) syncing with 10 tries
(write.c:40) write ATZ\r
(write.c:40) write ATV0Q0E0M0S0=0S2=255S12=255 +FCLASS=2\r
(write.c:40) write ATS7=120 +FCR=1 +FAA=0\r
(write.c:40) write AT\r
(read.c:128) got 1: "0"
(read.c:128) got 1: "\r"
(gen.c:113) modem is now in sync
(gen.c:173) enabling bit reversal
(write.c:40) write AT+FBOR=0\r
(response.c:176) get_modem_reponse: entering with timeout 5
(read.c:128) got 1: "0"
(read.c:128) got 1: "\r"
(response.c:222) numeric response code: 0
(send.c:51) dialing: 4422
(write.c:40) write ATDT4422\r
(response.c:176) get_modem_reponse: entering with timeout 60
(read.c:128) got 1: "a"
(read.c:128) got 1: "\r"
(read.c:128) got 1: "3"
(read.c:128) got 1: "\r"
(response.c:222) numeric response code: 3
(write.c:40) write AT+FDCC=1,5,0,2,0,0,0,0\r
(response.c:176) get_modem_reponse: entering with timeout 120
(read.c:128) got 1: "0"
(read.c:128) got 1: "\r"
(response.c:222) numeric response code: 0
call to 4422 failed
-- 
 Anders Ardo                       Tel: int+46 46 107522
 Dept. of Computer Engineering     fax: int+46 46 104714
 University of Lund, P.O. Box 118  Internet: anders@dit.lth.se
 S-221 00  Lund, Sweden               or     anders%dit.lth.se@uunet.uu.net
From: regebro@stacken.kth.se (Lennart Regebro)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Re: Looking for "fax engine"
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:08:25 GMT
Organization: Stacken Computer Club, Stockholm, Sweden

In article <1993Jan27.025517.24672@nuscc.nus.sg> eletanjm@nuscc.nus.sg (Tan Jin Meng) writes:
>We need to develop a fax based application on PCs. Is anyone selling (or
>!distributing free!) API or library based software that I can call from
>my own front end? 
>
>So far I heard of Gammalink's Gammanet (are they contactable via
>email or smail?) but I do not have any details.

GammaNet is not an API, but GammaLink DO provide a very simple to use API
for their faxboards. There are versions for both DOS and OS/2.
It is highly recommended.

Other API`s I know of is the Intel CAS, which I wont recommend since
it has severe lacks, and Brooktrout, of which I know nothing.

Best Regards


-- 
Lennart Regebro             regebro@stacken.kth.se
Stacken Computer Club       +46-8 649 18 51
Don`t call before calculating my local time, please. This is GMT +1.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: mjonker@cs.vu.nl (Martijn Jonker)
Subject: Need Info/Software Class 1 fax
Followup-To: mjonker@cs.vu.nl
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:07:07 GMT


Hi!

A friend of mine recently got a (i believe nuvotel) fax/modem. The
problem is that the software included is WinFax: this guy has a 286
so windows is not much fun to use. The question i have is: does anyone
have software (like bitfax, for instance) for a class 1 fax? I do
have bitfax for a class 2 fax, but appearently the differences are
to big, it won't work. Are there perhaps ftp-site's where  i can get
fax-shareware? Or doesn't this exist? Please answer by email to:
mjonker@cs.vu.nl

					Thanx, martijn.


-- 
+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|   Martijn Jonker                             mjonker@cs.vu.nl           |
|   Vrije Universiteit, A'dam, Holland.                                   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Re: How can I recieve faxes with a send-only fax card?
Date: 25 Jan 1993 15:32:50 GMT
Organization: The University of Maryland, College Park
NNTP-Posting-Host: sayshell.umd.edu
Keywords: send recieve send-only fax

In article <1993Jan23.033155.26245@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au> vla@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Louis Verhagen) writes:
>I have bought, some years ago, a modem with
>send-only fax capabilities from I believe
>JDR -microdevices. I have been happly sending
>faxes but I would also like to recieve faxes.
>
>My question is if this is possible. Would a program
>like QL2fax do the trick? If not, why is it not
>possible to recieve faxes if it is possible to
>send them?

I seriously doubt a send-only FAX modem will be able to receive FAXes.
Otherwise, it would be a send/receive FAX modem :-) This is likely
because its easier and cheaper to build a "mo" than a "dem" (as in
"modem"/MODulator-DEModulator).

>Any info is appriciated. You see, I am living
>in Australia for another 2 years and my girl-
>friend lives in the Netherlands. So we are trying
>to start a fax-relation.

Can you use EMAIL?


Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: huiharry@hkucc.hku.hk
Subject: BitFax: computer answering a voice call
Organization: The University of Hong Kong
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 07:37:46 GMT

I used to load "recvfax" of the BitFax to get my computer to receive incoming
fax.  However, occasionally (I havn't figured out when) incoming calls are
answered by the computer, which sends negotiating signals to the human
caller.  After a while, the dumb computer discovered that the caller is not
a fax machine, and prints a line "not a fax call" on my computer, by which
time the caller has gotten so frustrated and hanged up.

At other times, the computer does not answer.  And the phone functions 
perfectly.

Can somebody help explain this mystery?

Harry
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: jef@netcom.com (Jef Poskanzer)
Subject: Anyone have problems interfacing to a Supra?
X-Face: uPIE),q]+zmF49L%(pdE;nX/8$/J22&&&C@_)8BouYx42Y--?*,\]*MIeTY#mCM(x>FyD@+0D-Jm]S_8lxop(Q-$L#~b8!ha;eF[b+GOLyu<]4$">NeVymJ@F#M?1O`ue4,h4`2S^KGjmP%no(d,:<Ur:+f6W8$J:'t9BxH
Reply-To: Jef Poskanzer <jef@netcom.com>
Organization: Paratheo-Anametamystikhood Of Eris Esoteric
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:02:23 GMT

I'm trying to debug some fax software.  I have a Supra Faxmodem V.32
(not bis, but with the latest ROMs), and I have a MultiTech MultiModem.
Lately the Supra has been failing in an unusual way - partway through
the transmission it hangs up and returns +FHNG: 52.  I have a document
on class 2 (gotten from Supra) that describes error 52 as "No response
to MPS repeated 3 times".  Unfortunately the document does not define
"MPS".

Switching in the MultiTech makes things work just fine.

Any clues?
---
Jef

           Jef Poskanzer  jef@netcom.com  jef@well.sf.ca.us
                            Baby on board.
From: gerry.edge@almac.co.uk (Gerry Edge)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: WANTED
Date: 24 Jan 93 02:20:00 GMT
Reply-To: gerry.edge@almac.co.uk (Gerry Edge)
Organization: Almac BBS Ltd. +44 (0)324 665371

Help ... please ...
.
Does anybody out there have any of the following ...?!?!?
.
Tony robbins ' personal power program ' tape's  ?
.
any form of german language course ?
.
any old , broken fax machines ??
.
.
if the answer to any of the above is YES !!
please drop me a line here ..
and give me a 'phone number to call ..
.
ttfn .. gerry e.
.
                                        
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: rbui@maccs.mcmaster.ca (Robert Bui)
Subject: Re: Can it be done?
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 06:56:46 GMT

In article <93024.144440GNR100@psuvm.psu.edu> <GNR100@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>                 I don't know a whole lot about FAX machines, so if this
>seems like an ignorant post, it is.
>
>                 Since a fax transmission (I believe) is digital,
>and computers communicate digitally, and both use the phone lines, is there
>software available (shareware) that will enable a computer connected to an
>ordinary 1200 baud modem (not a fax modem) to emulate a fax machine, at least
>for the sending of faxes?





>
>                         Gordon Rogers
>                         gnr100@psuvm.psu.edu
------

A point to make before I carry on is that I don't know nothing 
about FAX too.  
 
It seems to me that me that if you implement (software level instead
of hardware) the correct protocol for talking to a FAX machine there 
should be no problem at all.  Am I right?
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: andyr@wizzy.com (Andy Rabagliati)
Subject: Re: Can it be done?
Organization: W.Z.I.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:40:30 GMT

In article <93024.144440GNR100@psuvm.psu.edu> <GNR100@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>is there
>software available (shareware) that will enable a computer connected to an
>ordinary 1200 baud modem (not a fax modem) to emulate a fax machine, at least
>for the sending of faxes?
>

Remember that regular modem communication is full duplex, and FAX is
uni-directional.

My understanding is that a 2400 baud modem splits the available (6khz ?)
bandwidth into an upper and a lower band. The originator of the call
uses the lower, the answerer uses the upper, or vice versa.

FAX, on the other hand, does 'talk talk' OVER 'talk talk' OVER.

Thus it can use the whole band. Thus a 9600 FAX has the same technology
as 2400 data.

Cheers,   Andy.
-- 
Amendment 2 information newsgroup co.politics.amend2.info - mailing list also.
andyr@wizzy.com          W.Z.I. Consulting (719)635-6099               pgp-2.1
Xref: sparky comp.dcom.fax:2519 comp.os.vms:22053 vmsnet.misc:1190
From: amber@echosphere.com (Amber Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.os.vms,vmsnet.misc
Subject: FAX product info for VMS
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:31:03 MST
Organization: Echosphere/Houston Tracker Systems

I am looking at and testing different fax products for use on a VAX cluster 
connected to a DECserver 500, and would like to hear from others using these 
types of products. The specific ones I have used are Omtool's FAXSR (using a
dexNET 200 modem) and Data Processing Design's Gold-Fax.
-- 

Amber Allen                                               
********************************************************************************
Amber@Echosphere.Com
Raptor!Amber@CSN.Org
Echosphere Corp./Houston Tracker Systems
90 Inverness Circle East, Englewood, CO 80112, USA         
********************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: huiharry@hkucc.hku.hk
Subject: Fax/modm cards to distinguish between voice and fax calls
Organization: The University of Hong Kong
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:19:24 GMT

In his reply to somebody's request for a "tutorial" on fax modems,
Timothy Hu said that there are fax cards which can distinguish voice calls
from fax calls.  I am interested in getting one.  Any recommendations from
netters?

Harry Hui
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax