From: danwell@IASTATE.EDU (Daniel A Ashlock)
Subject: Re: I don't know
Reply-To: danwell@IASTATE.EDU (Daniel A Ashlock)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:25:38 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.155702.10213@donner.SanDiego.NCR.COM>,
kraus@.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Dave Kraus) writes:
> In article <1992Apr15.085305@IASTATE.EDU> danwell@IASTATE.EDU (Daniel A
Ashlock) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr14.154019.16028@donner.SanDiego.NCR.COM>,
>>kraus@.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Dave Kraus) writes:
>  
>>   The explaination, then, is that intuition is the result of subconcious
>>integration of knowledge combined with speculation that is passed along to
the
>>concious at random times for not well understood reasons.  My intuition is
>>often wrong; sometimes it suceedes stunningly.  
> 
> Yes, this is how one might explain it using current "accepted" views of
> how the brain works. There is obviously much more involved that we don't
> know about.
>  
>>> Has it crossed your mind that psi and intuition might be related?
>  
>>   Yes.  I suspect much that is attributed to psi is actually normal brain
>>function of which a person is not aware.  Thus intuition is often mistaken 
>>for an external phenomena and gets called psi.
> 
> In some cases yes, but I have a hard time explaining my experiences using
> just the above mentioned definition of intuition.
> (ie).
> 	Dream of my brother's death one week before occurence.
> 
> 	Dream of Mary Decker's fall in 1984 Olympics about one
> 	week before occurence. Dream almost perfectly matched
> 	the actual event.

   Yeah, but you strongly believe in psi; a skeptic might think your brain
post editied your memory.  The police phrase "he lies like an eyewitness"
tells you people can do this.  What really happened and what people think 
happened are not only different, they get more different as time goes by.
This is why skeptics are so down on personal experience.  Its known to 
be completely unreliable in some cases.

> I've had others too. They don't come often, and I can't control them.
> I actually told friends at work about the Decker dream before it
> happened. They didn't talk to me for about two days after the actual
> event occured.

   But did you record it on Carl's prediction registry?  (Yes, I know it 
didn't exist then).  If you publically register your precognative dreams
(all of them) most of them won't come true and the ones that do will
be horoscope grade; things that weren't unlikely.  How do I know?  
I'm psychic!  :-).

> People in this newsgroup have tried to tell me it was coincidence, or that
> I just didn't remember it correctly, or I embellish, or that I'm just
> lying, but these experiences and some other's have led me to believe
> that I was able to detect something external to me that supplied me
> information before the fact. And....I don't know how this was done. I
> don't know what to call it, except that psi is the closest thing I've
> read about that might fit.

   Well, yeah.  Since you don't use careful recording and verification your
claims are worthless even if true.  PLEASE start recording your precog. dreams
in Carl's registry.
 
> I don't expect that telling other's about these experiences will convince
> them of anything, but it might give them some idea of where I'm coming
> from, and why my default assumptions about psi are a bit more positive
> than theirs, even though we really don't know what happened.

   I already knew where you were coming from.  Your experiences are extremely
nonunique.  The fact you _like_ psi so well makes you a prime candidate for
self delusion about psi, if my limited understanding of psychology is right. 
I've been having vivid dreams about my daughter getting killed for two years
now, about once a week.  She's fine.  She looked the age she was when I had the
dream in all these dreams.  De nada.

Dan
Danwell@IASTATE.EDU