HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Jonas_Marten_Fjallstam@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: ASDG VD0: device (or similar) under ADOS RELEASE 2.05
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 23:11:08 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>In article <1992Oct03.003218.569100@zeus.calpoly.edu> jgodfrey@zeus.calpoly.edu (Jon David "JET" Godfrey) writes:
> I have recently upgraded to DOS 2.05 and have had no luck installing ASDG's
> VD0: recoverable ram device into the system.  Although the software is fairly
> old, I have seen no updates on any PD/Share/Commercial lists anywhere. 
> 
> I once used the VD0: on my 1.3 machine and found it much more stable and 
> usable than any other including C='s own.
> 
> Is there a new version, patch, or anything that I can do to get ASDG's 
> functioning on my A2500/030 Release 2.05 machine?
> 
> Any and all comments welcomed!  Thankx.
> 
> -- 
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I ran DiskSpeed on VD0: and found it to be faster than my 52Meg Quantum that 
came with my A3000, but not by much. RAM: was 3X faster tan VD0: !!!

Why is this???

I am using the mountlist that came with the A3000 version but it calls for OFS.

Are there any settings buffers that should be modified to improve performance???
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: stefanb@hathi.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Stefan Becker)
Subject: Re: Finally got to play with an A4000
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:09:16 GMT

barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) writes:

>	Hard disk speed seemed slow to me... but then I noticed that the
>dealer had not used "AddBuffers" at all to speed up the disk access!  I did
>a quick "AddBuffers dh0: 200" and the speed became very acceptable.  [NOTE
>TO COMMODORE:  Increase the default AddBuffers on the A4000's you ship!]

There may be another cause to this. One A4000 owner, who bought his machine
on the CSS in Cologne (Germany) last weekend, told me that his HD partitions
were formatted with the OFS instead of FFS/DCFS.

	Stefan

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: wgkramer@cs.vu.nl (Ewout Kramer)
Subject: Re: FishCat still around ???
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 11:11:07 GMT

gad@fncrd6.fnal.gov (greg deuerling) writes:


>Is the FishCat FredFish data base program still being updated with new Fish
>disks ??? If so where can I find the latest disk update files...

>Thanks ....

You can find them on the fishdisks !
FishCat reads in the content files starting with
"This is disk XXX of the .... library".

I translate Fred Fish's announcements on usenet to this format and then
add them to my diskbase. Right now I have it updated to FF740.


Ewout
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: sck@watson.ibm.com (Scott C. Kennedy)
Subject: Re: How to "leave out" the trashcan
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1992 21:47:51 GMT
Distribution: na
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research Center

In article <70491@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt2038a@prism.gatech.EDU (gt2038a gt2038a BROWNING,CHRIS SHERMAN) writes:
|> Have you ever tried to leave out the trashcan under 2.04 so that it would
|> be accessible for whatever you are doing?  Unfortuately, it doesn't work.
|> Workbench will not allow a "garbage" object to be left out.  After playing
|> around for a little while, however, I figured out how to make it work.
|> Basically, just create a link to the trashcan, give it an icon (not a 
|> garbage icon, a directory one), and leave it out.  Now when you drag
|> something on top, tada, it appears in the trashcan.  Unforuately, the only
|> way to empty that trash is to click on the REAL trashcan.  Here is a
|> summary of how to do it.
|> cli> makelink <name> trashcan force
|> (you must use the "force" command with directories)
|> cli> copy <cool_directory_icon>.info <name>.info
|> Now just go back to workbench and drag the icon you made on to the workbench
|> and select "leave out" from the menus.....

OR

You can load the trashcan icon into iconedit. Save as a project. Leave out. Then
you change the trashcan icon back to a trashcan.

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From: 5marte_f@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: a600!
Date: 15 Oct 92 04:13:16 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <Rob_Semenoff.0ipo@saug.UUCP>, Rob_Semenoff@saug.UUCP (Rob Semenoff) writes:
> 
>      I could have sold my friend on getting into the Amiga family. COULD
> being the opperative word!! He had me phone the local and ONLY amiga
> dealer, I asked 
> "How much for the Amiga 600 with 40meg HD?"
> 
>      After being on hold for almost 10 minutes the salesman came back and
> said
> 
> "the price is ..... $750.000"
> 
>      $750.00 well for a low end machine that f@#king stupid!!! If anyone
> from C= is out there reading this, read on. My friend said NO WAY am I
> going to spend that much money for that little thing, and with that the
> search ended. He no longer wants to get an amiga and he is now looking at
> other systems.
> 
>      I too think $750 is way too much for such a crappy BASE system. If C=
> wants to break into the console market I think this is NOT the way to do
> it.    Needless to say that the C= dealer also never sells ANY Amiga
> System. They are still selling Amiga 3000/25/50 for $2800 (No monitor) Most
> people are going out of town to other dealers to buy Amiga stuff, 7 hours
> drive away is too far but it still beats the local dealer!!!!! the meaning
> of this letter is that now my friend is pissed of at C= and so am I for
> letting this dealer screw us for what money they can make.

	You really shouldn't balme this on C=. Go rant to the dealer. Commodore 
can't control the prices the dealer chooses to charge. At my local dealer 
they're only asking 1500 for the 3000/25/50. I'd get people to write complaints 
about your dealer TO Commodore NOT AT Commodore.


	Felix Marte

	5Marte_F@spcvxa.spc.edu
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From: cmh061@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Batman)
Subject: Re: Cygnus Ed & Turbotext
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 09:49:49 GMT

In article <schwager.718394960@mike.cs.uiuc.edu> schwager@cs.uiuc.edu (Mike Schwager) writes:
>ianm@icsbelf.co.uk (Ian Moran) writes:
>
>>Hello there
>
>>Has anyone had experience of the above two editors and if so, which
>>would you rec. for purchase. Also in the UK where would be the
>>best place to buy either.
>
>I use CygnusEd every day, and looked at the TurboText demo to see how well
>I liked it.  I didn't see anything in TurboText that would make me want to
>switch, and besides CygnusEd has (virtually) unlimited undo.  I don't know
>if TurboText has it yet, but I would say that if you like undo (I couldn't
>live without it!), get CygnusEd.
>-Mike

My vote goes for CygnusEd aswell, having looked at turbotext I could see no
reason to up and change.

Long live CygnusEd !



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From: vmkiili@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Ville-Matti Kiili)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Finally got to play with an A4000
Date: 11 Oct 92 10:19:23 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
:    Basically what I've been saying.  The A3000 still has several advantages
: over the A4000: more flexibility in choosing a monitor, built-in SCSI, and
: higher non-interlaced resolutions.  It's quite a bit cheaper now, too.

More flexibility in choosing a monitor? I don't think so. If you want to
use SuperHires, you need 15kHz monitor anyway, because Amber in A3000
can't handle it properly. Higher non-interlaced resolutions? Do you mean
the overscan? It isn't big deal. Of course A4000 is more expensive than
A3000 because it is faster. Maybe you should buy C-64, because it is so
cheap.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: tpetrecc@Chaos.mcs.kent.edu (Tony Petrecca)
Subject: HELP: Slow Clock & RAM failure
Summary: why is my internal clock slow and why is RAM failing? 
Organization: Kent State University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 07:21:25 GMT

These questions I think are FAQS.  I am using WB2.05 and I'm unable
to find a reason for random software failure of the RAM process &
a slow internal (w/512k mem expander) clock.
I remember talk about the clock problem, maybe about
the RAM problem on this or another amiga group.  I really don't understand
why RAM would be failing (8000 0003 - suspended crashes the machine and
gives 8000 0004 or 8000 0005)? and random times at that!
tpetrecc@mcs.kent.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: ekarlin@csws18.ic.sunysb.edu ()
Subject: is ab20 archive still availible?
Originator: ekarlin@csws18.ic.sunysb.edu
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 05:56:12 GMT


	I was just wondering if anyone knew where to find the frozen ab20
	archive...I know that wuarchive used to have it...but it seems to
	have disappeared..

	Does anyone have an address where I can ftp to it?

	Thanx,
	 Erik Karlin
	 ekarlin@ic.sunysb.edu
From: warda@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: VIRUS - Filesearcher on protection???
Date: 11 Oct 92 14:57:03 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

>>My question is: Is there any filesearcher that makes it possible for me to
>>search after files that have there read protection flag reseted???
>>
> The exellent viruskiller Virus_Checker (latest version 6.15) will see this
> file, but it can't check it for virus. BUT, in these cases it will open a
> requester that warns you that there exist a file that is read protected
> and suggests that you unprotect it and check it again.
> 

BootX V5.00 also has an option to check read-protected files, although I 
haven't actually used it.  This version only runs under 2.04

   Bill Bennett                           JANET: warda@uk.ac.oxford.vax    
   CRC Growth Factors Research Group   Internet: warda%vax.oxford.ac.uk  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett)
Subject: Re: Finally got to play with an A4000
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 06:13:16 GMT

In article <54551@dime.cs.umass.edu> barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) writes:
>
>	I had a chance to play with an A4000 for about an hour today.
>I won't repeat what other people have said about it, but I did notice
>some interesting things.
>	We had a very hard time trying to make the A4000+A1960 do full
>overscan using the Overscan preferences.  But then again, I really didn't
>know what I was doing with all those dozens of monitor modes listed by
>ScreenMode.  I couldn't get the Overscan to stretch far enough.  [NOTE TO
>COMMODORE:  Please document the differences between these new monitor modes
>very carefully, with enough detail to satisfy the technically adept user.]

   The A4000 in DblNTSC apparently cannot overscan to the extent that an
A3000 in deinterlaced NTSC mode can.

>	One bad thing I noticed:  when flipping screens between interlaced
>and non-interlaced screens (pressing Left-Amiga-M), the A1960 monitor image
>made a big and awful-looking "jump" as it switched resolutions.  I don't know
>whether the A1960 was at fault or not.

   It isn't just flipping between resolutions, it is flipping between
scan-frequencies (from 15Khz to 31Khz, or vice-versa).  It is therefore a
fault of the computer, as an A3000 does not have this problem.  Another
arguement for a display enhancer.


>	So... would I sell my A3000 to buy an A4000?  Probably not, because
>I have no need right now for more colors, and my 68030's speed is
>sufficient.  IMHO, the A4000 and AmigaOS 3.0 are evolutionary, not
>revolutionary.  But if you have an unaccelerated A1000, A2000, or A500, and
>have the money, take a serious look at the A4000.

   Basically what I've been saying.  The A3000 still has several advantages
over the A4000: more flexibility in choosing a monitor, built-in SCSI, and
higher non-interlaced resolutions.  It's quite a bit cheaper now, too.

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    Slick Willie Clinton: JUST SAY NO!!!
From: tam@furry.lonestar.org (Todd A. Murray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga World -- problems anyone?
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:10:48 CST
Organization: Small Furry Animals Unlimited, Plano TX

In article <1992Oct3.061042.24932@news.iastate.edu> glitto@iastate.edu (Scott M Klabacha) writes:
> In article <BvJ4uL.GK7@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Balicki (KodaK)) writes:
> >
> > [description of hassles with Amiga World subscription]
> >
> >I guess I don't realy have a question, but was wondering if anyone else has
> >had any problems with this magazine (or IDG/I in general, I used to have
> >a subscription with RUN and had no problems at all.)
> >
> 
> You are not alone.
> 
> As best as I can remember the situation...
> 
[another AmigaWorld horror story]
 
> But I'm not going to be renewing my subscription.
> 
>    gLITTOfERN
> glitto@iastate.edu

I had a somewhat similar experience with AmigaWorld.  In December of 1990, my
mother bought me a gift subscription to AmigaWorld.  When that expired a year
later, they sent me a renewal notice.  (Actually, they sent me several renewal
notices starting a few months early, but all magazines do that.)  I sent in the
renewal notice and the payment.  However, unbeknownst to me, my mother also
received a renewal notice, and she sent it in indicating that she wanted to be
billed later.  (I didn't know about it because I live in Texas and she lives in
Minnesota.)  When I found out, I told her that she didn't need to pay the bill,
since I had paid for it already.  However, she was billed for the gift
subscription several times, even though I had paid for it already and even
though I was only receiving one copy each month.  I wrote a letter to
AmigaWorld last May explaining that I had paid for the subscription and that my
mother should not be billed for it.  I got a postcard in return claiming that
the problem had been resolved.  My mother still received bills from AmigaWorld,
though, and the last one hinted that they were going to refer the matter to a
collection agency.  Finally, I called AmigaWorld and spoke with someone, and he
deleted the gift subscription from the computer.  I think that fixed the
problem.

It was rather annoying to go through this for a magazine that seems to have the
same articles every month, such as rehashed reviews of 80 hard drives, 35
printers, or 50 raytracers.  I'm not sure if I'll bother to renew my 
subscription.  By the way, the subscription services for AmigaWorld aren't
handled by IDG.  These services, and services for a lot of other magazines are
handled by a separate company in Boulder, Colorado, which means that if you send
your complaint to the editorial offices in New Hampshire, it might not be read
by anyone.
-- 
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comp.sys.amiga.advocacy: It's not a newsgroup.  It's a disease.
From: schwager@mike.cs.uiuc.edu (Mike Schwager)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Latest FISH DISKS are on ux1!
Summary: Come and get em
Keywords: fish disks
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:23:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: m.1992Oct7.172335.19807
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL

Hi there!  The latest fishdisks are being uploaded to ux1 even as we speak.
Here is a listing of the contents of these disks:
-Mike Schwager                | Machine: Amiga 500, 3 MB RAM/30 HD
Address: schwager@cs.uiuc.edu | Bike: '83 Kawasaki KZ750 LTD      //
Band: Poi Dog Pondering       | Hero: Robert Bly              \\ //
DoD: #0301                                                     \X/Amiga

U.S. Mail Address:
403 S. Coler
Urbana IL 61801

Fish Archive Spot:
128.174.5.59	ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (disks 100-current)
Lower Fish Available at:
grind.isca.uiowa.edu has FF #1-current,
gatekeeper.dec.com has FF #1-current in /pub/micro/amiga/fish
130.194.1.106 monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Australia) has the last 40 or so

P.S. If you were on the Fishdisks mailing list, you'd already know this.
Send mail to schwager@cs.uiuc.edu to get put onto the list.

-Mike
aka, Mike Schwager               |"I think we don't have ideology.
INTERNET:schwager@cs.uiuc.edu    | We don't have theology.
                                 | We dance."        -Japanese Shinto Priest
University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., for whom I do not speak
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: boberg@lysator.liu.se (Stefan Boberg)
Subject: Re: Workbench 3.0 DataTypes
Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Society, Linkoping University, Sweden
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 11:47:30 GMT

sacke@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Elizabeth E Sack) writes:

>I have been thinking about the possibilities of C='s new DataTypes.  To say
>the least, the hypothetical implications are stagering!

>If I understand correctly, any program that is WB3.0 compliant can make
>use of the DataTypes, right?  This gives them access to those types of
>files, right?  Sort of like AdPro's module loaders, right?

>So, it will be possible for all drawing software to load all different types
>of raster images (iff, gif, pict, tiff, etc)  As long as there is a DataType.

  Yep. You can use any supported file format for WB backdrop pictures for
example (I have GIF, IFF and Windows BMP datatypes for instance). As long as 
there is a datatype class for the format you can use it in your appplications.

>Can someone who has used DataTypes please comment on all of this?

  Datatypes is actually an extension of Intuition Gadgets. Any application
can thus for example open up a text view area in a window, where any 
supported document format can be viewed (for example AmigaGuide documents, 
FTXT files and ASCII files are all supported with datatypes in the WB3.0 
currently shipping). The application doesn't need to know anything about
how the documents are stored on disk etc. since the datatypes themselves
handle this.

  I'm personally working on an archive datatype that enables the user to
forget entirely about what archive type (s)he is working with, and use
the same interface for all different kinds of archives. Archives can be
viewed/listed/printed by running MultiView and so on ...

  The possibilities with BOOPSI/DataTypes are endless and I believe that
Datatypes is only the beginning of a new era in Amiga programming! The
only thing we need now is a decent native Objective-C or C++ compiler
with class libraries - `emulating' OOP in C is a bit frustrating.

>+| Jeff Hanna           |+|  PO Box 3086                 |+ 
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From: sheldon@iastate.edu (Steve Sheldon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Is Black bad in Europe ?
Keywords: This is not a flame...This is not a flame...This is not a flame...
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:38:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: pv1413.sheldon.719271484
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

In <1992Oct16.070001.13555@ugle.unit.no> eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen) writes:

>MB quote approaching:  *Open Fire!*
>>   Somebody should give this information to Bill Clinton and Ross Perot.
>> They seem to have the idea that the U.S. is a third-world country with 
>> worst economy in the industrialized world.

>This is *REALLY* weird.  How come, when the US national debt can't be represented
>properly on an 8 sig. fig. calculator, can the US be economically strong (well, 
>stronger than the rest of the world anyway ;)?  (It is the dekadent kapitalist
>swine who are rigging the world ekonomy, komrade :)

 Wait a minute.  In 1980 the US was promised a balanced budget by Presidential
candidate Ronald Reagan.  You mean that didn't happen?

 We must have a strong economy, otherwise the banks wouldn't loan the US so
much money.  :-)

 
 Marc, it's bad enough to show ignorance regarding the Amiga.  At least you
can do us all a favor and stay away from politics.


 
-- 
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Iowa Cooperative Soil Survey Resource Unit
2142 Agronomy, Iowa State University  (515) 294-5429
From: ch41@prism.gatech.EDU (ch41 ch41 )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Avoid the Amiga 4000
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:15:23 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Please post this list of compatible monitors...

- C. Hart
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From: boberg@lysator.liu.se (Stefan Boberg)
Subject: Re: Workbench 3.0 DataTypes
Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Society, Linkoping University, Sweden
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 01:04:50 GMT

<DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>In article <Bw7q37.27K@lysator.liu.se>, boberg@lysator.liu.se (Stefan Boberg)
>says:

>>sacke@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Elizabeth E Sack) writes:

>>  The possibilities with BOOPSI/DataTypes are endless and I believe that
>>Datatypes is only the beginning of a new era in Amiga programming! The
>>only thing we need now is a decent native Objective-C or C++ compiler
>>with class libraries - `emulating' OOP in C is a bit frustrating.

>What about Maxon C++. I heard it's been released.

  Great. Is there an english version, or is it in german only? Price tag?
How is the code generation? Reliability? If anyone has got any information
regarding this compiler I would be very interested in hearing about it!
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