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From: haverkam@uni-duesseldorf.de (Wilhelm Haverkamp)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Tagung "Nutzung und Betrieb von Rechnernetzen"
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 10:34:16 GMT
Organization: Universitaetsrechenzentrum, Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet Duesseldorf
NNTP-Posting-Host: haverkamp.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de

Ich darf unsere tschechischen und slowakischen Freunde
auf die Tagung "Nutzung und Betrieb von Rechnernetzen"
hinweisen, die Anfang Juni an der Uni Chemnitz-Zwickau
stattfindet, also nur ein Katzensprung von Ihrem Land
entfernt.
Die Tagung ist verbunden mit einem Tutorium und einem
Workshop und richtet sich an Studierende, junge
Wissenschaftler und DV-Fachleute aus Behoerden,
Wirtschaft und Industrie, die sich mit den neuesten
Trends der Rechnernetze vertraut machen moechten.
Bei Interesse bitte E-Mail direkt an mich. Ich sende
Ihnen dann das vorlauefige Programm zu.

Wilhelm Haverkamp
Rechenzentrum Universitaet Duesseldorf
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: lexa@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (lexa matej)
Subject: Re: Good Book Store in Slovakia ?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:41:44 GMT

vlado@bnr.ca (Vlado Vavroch) writes:

>There is a good Czech book store in Vienna. It is called Pasternak Book Store
>(or something similar) and it is next to Mariahilfer str. (around the corner
>from Herzmansky's) on Lindengasse(?).

I think it's a much better idea to look for sources of Czech books in Prague,
Slovak books in Slovakia etc. as some other people on the list are trying to
do. I noticed there are some slovak contributors to bit.listserv.slovak-l,
probably because of BITNET functionality in that area. I do not know quickly
how to crosspost, but if those of you that look for Czech or Slovak publishers
and booksellers actually posted a simmilar request to slovak-l as the one on
this newsgroup (telephone directories) you would be more likely to get what
you need there. Give it a try!

-- 
Matej Lexa                              At present: lexa@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Irrigation Research Inst.               Dept. of Plant Biology
Bratislava, SLOVAKIA                    University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
**************** "There's only one kind of music. Good music." *****************
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: pse5327@siemens.co.at (Abolghassem Salahi)
Subject: Renewing a British Passport in Slovakia
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:12:43 GMT
Organization: SIEMENS Austria Corp., A-1100 Wien, Gudrunstr. 11

My passport will expire in a few monthes does anyone know where I can
go to get it renewed in Slovakia ?

Please reply by mail to alexis@liska.ext.uniba.cs - NOT the address in
the header.

Thanks.

Alexis
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: pse5327@siemens.co.at (Abolghassem Salahi)
Subject: Good Book Store in Slovakia ?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 08:42:17 GMT
Organization: SIEMENS Austria Corp., A-1100 Wien, Gudrunstr. 11

I'm pretty tired of going to bookstores only to find they only have Angelica 8
or 9 or Krasna Katerina. I'm looking for a shop or publisher's address 
from where I can buy a wide selection of 18-20th century classic european
literature in Slovak or Czech.

Anybody know of anything ?Thanks.

Please post answers here or to alexis@liska.ext.uniba.cs - NOT to the address
in the header.

Alexis.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: ocroci@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Re: (trying) to learn Czech
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 13:33:15 GMT

Some twenty years ago, when I fell in love with Prague (stare mesto or the 
"historical center" as Italians would say) and decided to struggle with 
Czech I used Cestina pro cizince (Czech for foreigners) by Milan Sara, 
Jitka Sarova and Antonin Bytel. It is a traditional grammar, and if you 
like that old method of learning a foreign language (for me it is the only 
method I can cope with) it is quite good. 
The fact that I quite never won the struggle (Czech is not an easy language
) was entirely my fault and not that of the grammar. 
Good luck!-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: bill@ganesha.cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge)
Subject: Any new good books published lately?
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:01:06 GMT



Hello,

   I'm wondering if there are any noteworthy books published lately
in Czech: interesting novels, histories, art books, etc.

Thanks,

Bill@cognet.ucla.edu
From: wagner@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Re: Any new good books published lately?
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:27:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohstpy.15671.2b65749d
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Physics

In article <1993Jan26.000106.16888@cognet.ucla.edu>, bill@ganesha.cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge) writes:
> Hello,
> 
>    I'm wondering if there are any noteworthy books published lately
> in Czech: interesting novels, histories, art books, etc.
> 
> Bill@cognet.ucla.edu

Yes.
					-Lukas
				wagner@mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: murphy@well.sf.ca.us (Daniel A. Murphy)
Subject: Learning Czech
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 10:06:22 GMT


I'm wondering if people could recommend specific books or tapes
in order to learn some basic Czech...
-- 
-------------------
Daniel A. Murphy        Net:         murphy@well.sf.ca.us
San Francisco, CA       GEnie:       D.MURPHY11
U.S.A.                  MCI Mail:    377-7947
From: Howard Frederick <hfrederick@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Date: 24 Jan 93 15:37 PST
Subject: Europe in Turmoil*Media*Call4Papers
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1680800001:000:2526
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!hfrederick    Jan 24 15:37:00 1993


From: Howard Frederick <hfrederick>
Subject: Europe in Turmoil*Media*Call4Papers

                [ Please respond to hfrederick@igc.apc.org ]
                     Call for Papers*Deadline Extended

                    International Communication Section
         INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR MASS COMMUNICATION RESEARCH

                            "Europe in Turmoil:  
               Communication and Democracy in Civil Society"
        Hosted by School of Communications, Dublin City University
                        June 25-26 Dublin, Ireland

     Three forces compete for the hearts and minds of Europe's attentive 
publics--government, market, and civil society.  In Europe, as elsewhere, 
governments and markets control the major channels of public opinion 
formation, so they usually prevail.  But new channels (both interpersonal 
and technological) have transformed our capacity to build and maintain 
long-distance coalitions and networks.  New regional and global forces are 
now using new channels of communication to fight problems whose scale 
previously confounded local and national solution.  We call this the 
"transnationalization of civil participation."  

     The International Communication Section seeks papers for two panels 
describing the scope and impact of channels promoting communication and 
democracy in Europe's civil societies.  From the environment to women, from 
neighborhood conflict resolution to computer networks, from radio to 
publishing, from universities to the labor movement:  Civil society is 
producing new media to distribute its culture and information.  Market- and 
government-controlled media have not been able to provide reliable and 
diversified information essential to democracy.  We will accept articles 
from outside Europe if they focus on channels of civil and democratic 
communication relevant "Europe in Turmoil."  

     Paper abstracts accepted until February 15.  Important:  Final papers 
must be submitted via *email or on diskette* by April 15, 1992, no 
exceptions.  For submissions, contact:  Howard H. Frederick, President, 
International Communication Section of IAMCR, P.O.B. 94653, Pasadena, CA 
91109 USA Voice:  +1-818-568-0994  Email:  hfrederick@igc.apc.org   
Fax: +1-818-791-2205 "Attention CLAIRE"   

     For more information on the Dublin conference, contact Paschal 
Preston, School of Communications, Dublin City University, Glasnevin DUBLIN 
9, IRELAND  Tel:  +353 1 7045478  Fax:  +353 1 704 5447  
E-Mail:  PrestonP@dcu.ie
From: reetz@uni-paderborn.de (Andreas Reetz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: prague
Date: 21 Jan 1993 18:56:59 GMT
Organization: Uni-GH Paderborn, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rubens.uni-paderborn.de

I'm looking for the cheap hotel (or something like that) in prague and  other information about this town.

Thanks

   Andreas Reetz



email: reetz@uni-paderborn.de

Xref: sparky soc.culture.czecho-slovak:679 soc.culture.filipino:4650 soc.culture.french:9913
From: chao6@husc11.harvard.edu (James Chao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak,soc.culture.filipino,soc.culture.french
Subject: Model United Nations Conference in the Czech Republic
Date: 23 Jan 93 00:45:00 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

(If possible, please print out and post for people who might be
interested)

To all those interested in international relations, politics, and the
United Nations -- WorldMUN is a great forum for the discussion of 
current issues being debated by the United Nations today: 

Harvard World Model United Nations (WorldMUN) is an international
conference that brings together university students and young
professionals from around the globe to siimulate the workings of the
United Nations.  The second annual WorldMUN conference will be held from
March 28, 1993, through March 31, 1993, at the Hotel Diplomat in Prague,
The Czech Republic.  

Ten committees, representing the General Assembly, Economic and Social
Council, and Specialized Agencies of the United Nations, will discuss
issues from the actual UN agenda.  In addition to the formal debate of
resolutions, committee sessions will be augmented by presentations from
politicians, businessmen, scholars, and activists who have helped shape
the dramatic world events of recent years.

In this era of momentous political change, WorldMUN seeks to assess the
role of the United Nations in a new world order.  WorldMUN marks the first
truly international simulated United Nations where participants play the
roles of their own nation's ambassadors.  WorldMUN strives to teach
tomorrow's leaders about the United Nations and its methods of conflict
resolution.  It aims to foster skills in negotiation and debate, in order
that delegates may formulate resolutions on topics currently discussed in
the real United Nations.  These resolutions will be sent to the actual
United Nations committees.

WorldMUN 1993 will take place at the Hotel Diplomat in Prague,
The Czech Republic.  The Hotel Diplomat is Prague's most modern conference
center.  Prague is both one of the most beautiful metropoles of Europe and
an ideal location for debating current world politics and the changing
role of the United Nations.

The Hotel diplomat is a luxury resort that offers restaurants, shops, a
night club, and fitness and spa equipment.  Delegates will stay at the
Hotel Diplomat for the reduced rate of 130DM/day double occupancy, which
includes two meals a day.

Delegate registration is $US60 per delegate.  For more information, please
reply to this e-mail address or write/fax:
Joshua A. Salomon, Secretary-General
Harvard World Model United Nations 1993
Suite 23, 1430 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA 02138-3810
UNITED STATES

Telephone:  001-617-493-6995
Fax:  001-617-493-6995

James Chao
chao6@husc.harvard.edu
From: haverkam@uni-duesseldorf.de (Wilhelm Haverkamp)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Re: Definite article? (Was: Separate currencies now?)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 07:53:30 GMT
Organization: Universitaetsrechenzentrum, Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet Duesseldorf
NNTP-Posting-Host: haverkamp.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de

In article <43770@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Thomas Marvan) writes:
>From: tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Thomas Marvan)
>Subject: Definite article? (Was: Separate currencies now?)
>Date: 20 Jan 93 06:26:44 GMT

Thomas Marvan writes:

>The defintie article for Slowakei, now that "die Tschechoslowakei" has
>divided, will of course remain "die," but what is the definite
>article in German for "Tschechien" now that this word has been
>"de-compounded"?

For my feeling it will have no article. Examples are:
"Daenemerk", "Bulgarien", "Ungarn", "Frankreich", but "die USA",
"die Sowjetunion", "die Mongolei".
Don't ask me why the German grammar wants it that way.
Wilhelm

Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: tomh@wes.on.ca (Tom Haapanen)
Subject: Czech and Slovak flags?
Organization: Waterloo Engineering Software
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:25:11 GMT

This is a pure curiousity question, but I'd like to know what the flags of
the Czech Republic and Slovakia look like.  I saw a glimpse of the Slovak
flag on TV, but not long enough to be able to describe it.  Could someone
give a little detail on them?

[ \tom haapanen    "i don't even know what street canada is on" -- al capone ]
[ tomh@wes.on.ca                   "trust the programmer" -- ansi c standard ]
[ waterloo engineering software      "to thine own self be true" -- polonius ]
Xref: sparky soc.culture.czecho-slovak:677 rec.radio.shortwave:9740
From: tijoma@uta.fi (Jorma M{ntyl{)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Slovakian Radio
Date: 22 Jan 93 08:56:51 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

This news was available in SCDX:

>SLOVAKIA--Slovak Radio's new external service in Slovak has been heard at
>01:30-02:00 hrs on 5930 and 7345 kHz and at 19:00-19:30 hrs on 9505 and 9580
>kHz. The station is announcing as well an hour long program at 14:00 hrs on
>6055, 7345, and 9505 kHz. (BBC Monitoring)

One question, however: are these transmitters really located in Slovakia?
At least the frequencies 6055 and 7345 kHz have been used for decades by
Radio Prague transmitters located near Prague.  Anybody knows if the situation
has changed?

Here in Scandinavia Radio Bratislava is easily heard on AM/MW 1098 kHz, too,
but this is the domestic service of Slovakian radio.

#Jorma M{ntyl{
#Univ. of Tampere
#Finland
From: rmv@ukc.ac.uk (raj)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: padikkattu varihal
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:41:14 GMT


---------------------------------------------------------------------------
I remind the netters of the padikkattu varihal competition. I have already
posted the rules. If anyone is interested please contact me. I will send it to
you if you have  missed them. 
	Your comments on past padikkattu varihal must be sent directly to the
net, if you want them to appear on the net. I  collect contribution only.

                  Thank you
                     raj

--------------------------------------------------------------------------


   "paarkkath therinthaal paathai theriyum
   paarththu nadanthaal payanam thodurum
   payanam thodarnthaal kathavu thiRakkum
   kathavu thiRanthaal kaatchi kidaikkum
   kaatchi kidaiththaal kavalai theerum
   kavalai theernthaal vaazhalaam."
                      ************

   From "vAzha ninaiththAl vAzhalAm ...."

   Posted by   Kathiravan Krishnamurthi <kat@doe.carleton.ca>


   comments :
   kaviarasin padaippu.
   eppadi vaazhalaam?  medhuvaagap padikkattai eRi paarththaal puriyum.



==============================================================================
  Please send your "padikkattu varihaL" to rmv@ukc.ac.uk
  

Rules
------

1) There should be a build up
2) No particular line should strike out ie a uniform build up
3) Preferably between 4 to 10 lines but there is no hard limit
4) If you send a non-film song, please care to add the meaning of "arunjchoRkal"
   ie words not in common use. If possible give some  the refernce.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: snreee@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Some more rAgam identifications
Reply-To: snreee@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:28:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.191232.63130@cc.usu.edu>, sl9z5@cc.usu.edu writes:
>Hai,
>	Are the foll.songs based on Sivaranjani.
>
>	Kaathirundhu kaathirundhu kaalangal pogudhadi - Vaidhehi 
>			kaathirundhaal.
>	Maamaraththu pooveduthu manjam ondru podava - oomai vizhigal
>
>
>	Also, in which film does this song based on KaraharaPriyA(definite)
>	 occur(ThAnA vandha sandhaname, unna th thazhuva thenam sammathame)
>	sung by SPB and S.Janaki.
>

  This melodious song is from the movie "Ooru vittu Ooru Vandhu"
  Starring Rama Rajan and Gouthami. Music set by the master ILaya Raaja.
  Song writer is Gangai Amaran, who is also the director of the movie.

  anbudan
  Ramanan

>Thanks,
>Murali Seetharaman,
>sl9z5@cc.usu.edu
>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: shiva@b30.b30.ingr.com (Shiva Shivakumar)
Subject: Re: Suggestion on Kural (was vaLLuvan kaatiya vazhi - 2)
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:05:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.183216.26047@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> nefthi@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (a.sandeep) writes:
>
>
>I am glad that Thirukkural has been started on this net. It is a
>great effort and let us continue on this without distractions. 
>I would like to ask the poster to include something more than 
>just the meaning. For example, it can be an incident that 
>relates to the kural, a short story that adds to the kural or 
>it can be a joke etc. I was planning to introduce these to my
>children and I was thinking ways to make kurals stay in their 
>memory. I know M. Karunanidhi used to write stories related to kural 
>( I forget which magagine.)
>

	Yes, in Kungumam. About 90 % of theses 'KuraLoviam's  were about
kuraLs from Kaamathupaal accompanied by 36-24-36 line drawings of identical
looking women - well there wasn't much variety in the descriptions either.

More like a collection of selected chapters of Sandilyan.

I confess reading thru' but definitely not to satisfy my literary needs ..)

MK and his govt. deserve credit for displaying KuraLs in Pallavan buses, tho.

Jagadisan Shivakumar
>
>Sandeep


Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: subraman@myria.cs.umn.edu (Satish Subramanian)
Subject: vaLLuvan kaatiya vazhi - 10
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:34:00 GMT

________________________________________________________________

      Thirukkural      Chapter 1       "kadavuL vazhththu"
					   (Praise of God)

[10]   		"piRavip perungadal neenthuvar neendhaar
		 eraivanadi sEraa dhaar"

	"None can swim the great sea of births, but those who
	 are united to the feet of God"


___________________________________________________________________
  Corrections/ Discussions/ Different Interpretations are welcome.
                 Posted by Satish Subramanian
                    (subraman@cs.umn.edu)
	         Thanks to Siva Bala Narayanan
___________________________________________________________________



Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: anandraj@tis.enet.dec.com (Geetha Anandraj)
Subject: A ThEvaaram verse  
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Northboro, MA, USA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:18:14 GMT



Isn't this song sung by TMS in the movie "Thiruvarutchelvar"?  The movie 
itself is a story about Appar & ThiruGna Sambandar I think.  Correct me if 
I am wrong.

Regards

Geetha 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: ssr@cypress.com (Bapcha/FPGA)
Subject: Re: NEED OF A PERIYAR . . .
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:18:48 GMT

In article <wfMiUEC00iUy420aAx@andrew.cmu.edu> Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh <thundayal+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>'Hindutva' lot and the related scum? Are you doling money for those
>scums back there? Hell, you could be busy shipping to India copies of
>'Vedic Mathematics.'

I don't support any damned cause... it ain't wirth my time.  Why don't you
just go back and fight for your Eelam,  and not share your problems with India ?
It is SRI LANKA's problem... not India's problem.

>RSS murdered Mahathma Gandhi. Now, the BJP/RSS/SS rot want to turn India
>back into dark ages along the lines of Hindu fundamentalism. And

Gandhi was not from your country.....  as far as I know,  Godse killed him - I
don't quite care what your pseudo-research brings up.  Read your history books,
or write one for me to read !  I ain't a hindu fundamentalist... just a fundamentalist
basher.  Born to bring out your stupidity,  and highlight it to the people on the
net !

>thousands of 'Bapchas', 'Narayanas' and 'Vermas' trying to sell the
>garbage to us! Its not as many have forgetten the orginal name of BJP
>and its purpose. 
>

1000's of Prabhakarans,  Kittus,  EVRs and Ranjiths too..... actually you have no
business classifying me with people whom I don't know.... oh well - what
can you expect from a fundamentalist moron !!

>Bapcha the oxymoron says it all.   
>

Pray tell me what it says !!  I'll be surprised if your brain that has an IQ of 20
can come up with anything.
From: selvakum@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (C.R.Selvakumar - Electrical Engineering)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: A ThEvaaram verse (translation)
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:17:08 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

In article <C1D929.Lxr@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> mvishnu@bcr3.uwaterloo.ca (Meenan Vishnu) writes:
> [ some deleted]

>As I indicated with a question mark, I do not know the meaning of 
>moosu.  In colloquial Tamil (used in Jaffna) this word means heavy and noisy
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>breathing (especillay after a hard work or of an asthma patient).
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  In Tamil Nadu too, moosu refers to the 'heavy and noisy breathing'.
  The expression 'moosu moosu enRu vElai seykiRaan' or 'uzhaikkiRaan'
  refers to the hard work. 


> [ deleted some]
>Meenan Vishnu
>

  - Selva
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: ssankara@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sornam Sankara)
Subject: An article by Prof.Jeyaraman
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 06:06:53 GMT


The following very long article was posted in SCI.  Since it is very long, 
please dont try to skip.  It is an excellent article which describes the
corruption of intellectualism in every walk of Indian life.  If you are a
Khuram's follower, you may find it very embarassing.  We cant help it.

S. Sankarapandi

============================================================================



Article 98025 of soc.culture.indian:
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: subraman@myria.cs.umn.edu (Satish Subramanian)
Subject: vaLLuvan kaatiya vazhi - 9
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:06:44 GMT

________________________________________________________________

      Thirukkural      Chapter 1       "kadavuL vazhththu"
					   (Praise of God)

[9]	 	"kOLil pORiyil guNamilavE yeNguNatthaan
		 thaaLai vaNangaath thalai"

	"The head that worships not the feet of Him who is 
	 possessed of eight attributes, is profitless as a
	 sense without the power of sensation"


	  	 Posted by Satish Subramanian
___________________________________________________________________

Corrections/ Discussions/ Different Interpretations are welcome.
	    subraman@cs.umn.edu ( Satish Subramanian )	
	        Thanks to Siva Bala Narayanan
___________________________________________________________________



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