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From: shrinkit@Apple.COM (Andrew Nicholas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GSHK v1.1 BASIC patch :-)
Date: 14 Oct 92 05:44:34 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <78313.3.718975856@novell1.rz.fht-mannheim.de> 78313@novell1.rz.fht-mannheim.de (Christian_Karpp) writes:

>As one guy already mentioned yesterday there's a problem with the new version
>of GSHK v1.1.
>The self-extracting archive (GSHK11.SEA) which is actually a S16 file can't
>be started (giving you a SystemLoader err $1104 - "Not a load file").
>Since I'm not that familiar with the "GS/OS-guts" but wanted to take a look
>at the new GSHK, I wrote that little "nitty-gritty" BASIC program to strip
>off the self-extractor header and unpacked the remaining archive with the
>latest version of GSHK which I had (1.0.6).
>I had no problems at all - and since it's quite simple and quite fast, I
>thought I'm going to post this little pgm so you can use the file you've
>already downloaded and don't have to wait for a repost...
>
>
> 100 D$ =  CHR$ (4)
> 110  PRINT D$"create gshk11.shk,t$e0"
> 120  FOR I = 1 TO 6: PRINT D$"bload gshk11.sea,ts16,a$2000,l$4000,b"12005 + (I - 1) * 16384
> 130  PRINT "writing chunk #"I
> 140  PRINT D$"bsave gshk11.shk,t$e0,a$2000,l$4000,b"0 + (I - 1) * 16384
> 150  NEXT : PRINT D$"bload gshk11.sea,ts16,a$2000,l7819,b"12005 + 6 * 16384
> 160  PRINT D$"bsave gshk11.shk,t$e0,a$2000,l7819,b"0 + 6 * 16384
>
>
>BTW: I found the "12005-offset" with BLOCK.WARDENs (great old utility by
>Glen Bredon, btw) follow-file/search string-option (searched for "NuFile"s
>2nd occurrence...)
>
>have fun ;-)
>CiderMan
>
>oh, and of course: THANX ANDY!!! GREAT NEW STUFF IN V1.1!

Good grief.  Why not just set the eof correctly if the eof is too long?  It
would have been a lot less work and code.

andy

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From: shrinkit@Apple.COM (Andrew Nicholas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: GSHK in the future
Keywords: shrinkit
Date: 14 Oct 92 05:51:32 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

btw, with all this mess with sscii and/or gscii not working right, I thought
I would mention that Derek Taubert graciously sent Dave Lyons and me the source
code to gscii and sscii.  Dave and I started putting our own rendition of the
binscii routines into GSHK v1.1, but we didn't have the time to finish it and
I had to remove it at the last minute.  So hopefully when I get some spare
cycles I'll be able to put a robust version of binscii/de-binscii into the
next GSHK (we were actually fairly close).

Next up (besides real binscii): unzip, un-lzh, and maybe LZH compression.

andy

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: non byte-aligned text
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:15:34 GMT

richard@serss0 (Richard A Simm) writes:

>I have some routines that print byte-aligned text to the screen. I use
>compiled code to output the font (8 pixels wide by 8 pixels high, or 
>thereabouts). The code looks something like

>:character_a	lda	#xxxx
>		sta	$2000,x
>		...			; 7 more times

>Now, I want to test the speed of byte-aligned text with non byte-aligned
>text. Is the fastest way to do this using preshifted fonts? I doubt I'd
>be able to compile the font code though as I do above.

  Actually, you can, but the compiled font for the shifted case will
be somewhat bigger.

AABBCCDD... is the row of the character we're storing

	lda	$2000,x
	and	#$00FF
	ora	#$AA00
	sta	$2000,x
... continue doing all the bytes except the last one, just like the 
... unshifted case
	lda	$200x,x
	and	#$FF00
	ora	#$00AA
	sta	$200x,x

I can never remember the conversion between pixel-order and byte-order,
but this gives you an idea.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mkheintz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Michael Heintz)
Subject: Re: Best Wordprocessors???
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:15:11 GMT

In article <92283.150853DBEHRENS@MIAMIU.BITNET> <DBEHRENS@MIAMIU.BITNET> writes:
>I would like to know what are the best wordprocessors on the market
>today for the apple IIgs.  I currently have a rom 00 gs, and I wonder if it is
>worth it to upgrade.

OF COURSE!  The upgrade is free at your Apple Dealer, it can't be any more
"worth it" than that!  You might as well take it in if you plan to ever do
anything new with it... basically nothing new will run on it that is GS
specific.

>...Hey, I'm a college student with a VERY limited
>budget,

You don't need a budget for the upgrade to ROM 01.

>...but is there anything better than Appleworks 3.0 with Time-Out
>Ultra Macros?

It depends on what you want to do with it.  Personally, I wouldn't 
recommend upgrading your software at this point.  You can always transfer
your AppleWorks programs to a Macintosh for printing purposes (if you want
some Laser output).  It's really not worth upgrading since you would need
to buy so much more to really get some high quality output (like more
memory, possibly a hard drive, a new printer [like the Hewlett Packard
Deskjet 500, so you can take it with you to another platform], System 6.0,
Pointless [for high quality fonts to take advantage of the Deskjet 500],
a word processor program like AppleWorks GS or GraphicWriter III, and
after all is said and done, your computer will be so slow that you will
probably want to accelerate it, too!).

In other words, to step up from what you have, you will have to outlay
mucho dinero, which you apparently can't do anyway.  Use your GS as you
always have, get the free upgrade, and if you want some higher quality
output, become familiar with the Macintosh and use the Apple File Exchange
to transfer your AppleWorks files into a Macintosh word processor for
printing to a LaserWriter.  THAT is the cheapest, and most economical way
to go.

I wish I hadn't spent so much on my GS, because what I really want now is
an IBM clone so I can do my homework at home instead of just being able
to print out documents, and do my networking over the phone.  A clone would
be so handy right now, but I'm still paying off my GS!

Don't get me wrong, I love my GS and I plan to program in my free-time (when
I get some) but right now, it is not as useful to me as I have hoped.  Of
course, GNO helps a little, but that costs money, too!

	Later,
		...Mike



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From: fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: MODZap fiasco?
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:43:47 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Oct8.152528.28646@news.iastate.edu> achauhan@warsaw.math.macalstr.edu (Amrit Chauhan) writes:
>That Ian Guy writes
>> since there now -will not- be any further MODZap.  All decisions final, no
>> warranty is offered.
>
>can I get your pacifier now Ian?

Has it occurred to any of you that most of the world doesn't care about
your petty disagreements?

You all have e-mail addresses.  Use them.

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[ Above opinions are mine, Amdahl has nothing to do with them, etc, etc. ]
From: fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: 12+mhz is EASY!!
Date: 9 Oct 92 12:59:16 PST
Organization: BBS

The new 65c816 came today, and I just swapped the cpu, pop in new crystals and
now I am at 13.75mhz!  The upgrade was simple, and I am running at 13.75 with
out any problems so far!  ( heheh, it's only been about 10 min. ).

Anyway, when I tried to put 60mhz crystals ( for 15mhz ), I get "Transwarp GS
failure = 0401".  Anyone know what this means?  Would faster cache ram help? (
I am at stock 35ns ).  I would also like to increase the power supply to 5.25,
how can I accomplish this?  ( feed the whole system 5.25, not just twgs ).

I remember someone mentioned that they have problems with proterm at
high-speed.  What is it?  So far so good for me.

Will let ya know how my twgs is doing.

frank m. lin
fmlin@terapin.com
cyprus systems
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: AppleTalk ImageWriters and AppleWorks
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 11:31:43 GMT

In article <1992Oct09.210318.3994@jlc.mv.com> scot@jlc.mv.com (Scot Salmon) writes:
> How do I get AppleWorks Classic (3.0) to talk to an AppleTalk ImageWriter?

As far I know, you'll need the following steps:

Set the IIgs's slots to enable AppleTalk.  On a ROM 01, set slot 1 to
'Your Card' and slot 7 to 'AppleTalk'.  On a ROM 03, set slot 1 to
'AppleTalk'.

Run the AppleTalk CHOOSER program to select the ImageWriter as the
active printer.  This will create a file called ATINIT.  CHOOSER is
part of most versions of the IIgs System Software.  With System 5 and
6, there is a Control Panel device called 'Network Printer' which will
create the ATINIT file in */SYSTEM/DRIVERS.  I think CHOOSER was only
available as a separate program up to System 4.0.

Copy the ATINIT file to the root directory of your AppleWorks boot disk.

Make sure the AppleWorks disk's PRODOS is version 1.5 or later.

Tell AppleWorks to print to the slot containing the AppleTalk firmware
(Slot 7 for a ROM 01 GS, Slot 1 for a ROM 03 GS).  Printer type should
be 'ImageWriter II', as normal.


I think that's all there is to it.  I haven't done this myself, so I
may have missed a step.
-- 
David Empson

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Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand
From: Dan.Brown@f312.n213.z1.UUCP (Dan Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: What?
Date: 13 Oct 92 09:07:39 GMT

There are a few options for using an Apple 40 meg backup on a GS.  First,
there's a freeware backup program on GEnie; it may be available somewhere else
too.  Second, the RAMFast SCSI Card has built-in support for tape backups, and
it does the backing up in the background, too!  Third, Tim Grams sells GS-Tape,
which will work with 3M or Teac drives on either an Apple or a RAMFast SCSI
Card.  I have a RAMFast, and GS-Tape is on the way.
--> Dan

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: blaby@fraser.sfu.ca (John Edward Blaby)
Subject: Re: MODZap fiasco?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 08:20:29 GMT

irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy) writes:

>In order to avoid mentioning names, let me just say that there is a small but
>incredibly vocal minority of GS users who seem to object to free software in
>general and MODZap in particular.  Unfortunately, all of 1 person told me they
>liked the program (big kudos to Steve Bilgrien if you read this feed) as 
>opposed to the 15 or 20 mails I got condemming it as a "piece of shit" and
>"the worst thing I've ever had the displeasure to use on my GS".  Therefore,
>the nays have it and I'm no longer developing MODZap, and have scaled back
>work on other IIgs stuff in favor of my 486.  (note that I personally am 
>running MODZap 0.85 which is pretty cool, but nobody else will ever see it 
>after the fiasco).

Hmm..I find it incredible that even one GS user would send you hate
mail on MODZap. It makes me think that they might be 'other' computer
users masquerading as GS users because of jealousy.

Personally, I am very impressed with MODZap and Sonic Tracker. I
really enjoyed the competition between the two programs which just got
better and better.

I hope you ignore the blathering of a few ignorant loudmouths. The
'silent majority' are behind you and I am very sure, appreciate the
effort you have put in developing a very enjoyable GS application. I
know that I certainly do!

John
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From: 11hlayto@gallux.gallaudet.edu (Cybe)
Subject: If can 1084S, can 1080 too?
Organization: Gallaudet University, Washingtondc, DC
Distribution: comp.sys.apple2
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 20:37:45 GMT

Hiya,  with some poeple advising others on how to make cables to hook up
Commodore 1084S monitors to the GS' RGB output, is there anyone who
knows whether an older Commodore 1080 would work as well?  Same pinouts
and everything?

Thanks!

Ryan Layton
11hlayto@gallux.gallaudet.edu
11hlayton@gallua.gallaudet.edu
From: 881045m@dragon.acadiau.ca (Richard Muise)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Dos 3.3 FST
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:11:13 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

I tried formatting a Dos 3.3 disk in the 5.25 drive of my IIGS, but
it wouldn't work. I was not given the option, just the ProDos option.
Also, I couldn't seem to copy to a DOS 3.3 disk, I had formatted with
Copy II+ (9.1). 
	So my question is: Is the DOS FST a read only? Will a Write FST
be released by the time the MS-DOS FST is released (ie SYS6.1)?
thanks
richard

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mmunson@animal.es.com (Mark Munson)
Subject: Re: Orca bashing (was Re: Amrit, C/C++)
Reply-To: mmunson@animal.es.com (Mark Munson)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:50:05 GMT

When ORCA/C first came out, there were a lot of bugs.  If you tried to write
a GS desktop application, you could expect to spend half your time tracking
down compiler problems.

It's not that the compiler doesn't work, as much as the compiler isn't 
as tolerant of errors as I would like.  I couldn't recommend the
early versions to others because of the constant problems.

With the release of the later versions and updates, I now use ORCA/C
all the time without problems.  All of my code compiles OK.

When I was first learning C, I got a PC book on Programming with ANSI C. 
All of the demonstration programs compiled perfectly.  It took me a
couple of years before I found any of the subtle problems with ORCA/C.
A short phone call to Mike Westerfield (sp?) usually cleared things
up right away.


ORCA/C does take a while to compile, but if you have an accelerator
card, a hard disk, and lots of memory, then you won't have any
problems.


One thing you should keep in mind when compiling C programs on the
GS.  There are a lot of #pragma's that are unique to the architecture
of the GS.  Knowing whay they do and applying them correctly can
save you a lot of grief.

The PRIZM desktop environment is great, but it does seem to fail
when you attempt to compile large C (especially desktop) programs.
I find that the shell environment is more tolerant of compiling
errors.  As a result, I use PRIZM just as a graphical editor.  I
jump back to the shell and have a script perform the compiling and
linking.


The code that ORCA/C produces seems to run real fast.  I've even
written timing sensitive applications like a desktop telecom 
program that displays ANSI all in C.  The program runs fine and
compiles fairly quickly.


[MGM]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jmk3@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Jay M. Krell)
Subject: >Paul Parkhurst, formatting
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date:  9 Oct 92 15:21:36 GMT

>> Paul Parkhurst
 
I don't program P8 (never did) but I don't think it has commands for
formatting. Nifty List's data file doesn't show any. I believe Apple has
something called something like "Disk ][ Formatter Package" that you can
lisence and build into your product. Also, I've seen mentions of something
called "HyperFormat" by Shawn Quick. You might want to check GEnie's A2Pro for
it. IIGS TN #2 mentions the "Apple II Disk II Formatting Module."
 
Jay
 
Internet: jay.krell@cornell.edu
America Online: JayKrell
GEnie: J.Krell1

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: rwifall@nmsu.edu (Richard J Wifall)
Subject: Re: I have MTrkr ;-)
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<1992Oct9.163054.4904@news.iastate.edu>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:14:34 GMT

[stuff from Ian about needing to borrow a active sensing kbd cuz my
D-20 crashes mt not included because I don't know how to quote.. :)]

Heh.. I'm always finding ways to find new and interesting bugs with
MegaTracker and related code..  OOPS  <grin>  Make sure the synth you
borrow has Sysex too, so you can test that also.. :)

and Ian's right.. He isn't the only one with MegaTracker.. and I would
like to point out that the way it's going, it is going to be the
ultimate music program for the GS..(that's an understatement.. :)

				Richard...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Sonics CDev problems
From: cdantoni@abacus.bates.edu (Charles D'Antonio)
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:55:12 EST
Summary: Sonics CDev conflicts with applications and Sound CDev

	I have experienced a dificulty with the Sonics CDev where I will
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:16:34 GMT
Organization: Bates College, Lewiston, Maine


	Anyone with similar problems?   Or advice in patching/working
around the current state of affairs (I miss some of the sounds)?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: terry@rod.mitre.org (Terry Reed)
Subject: Is there a FAQ for this group?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:32:30 GMT

Hi,
I was wondering if someone could e-mail me a copy of the FAQ (I have some
questions specifically about Apple IIc`s) for this group.  This will save
me asking (i.e. posting) a bunch of seemingly stupid questions.  Thanks.

     Terry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: joganic@cs.arizona.edu (John E. Joganic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Two byte fonts on the //GS
Summary: how do I display Japanese on my GS?
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:53:01 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

I've been using Macs which allow me to add Japanese (or any other language)
to word processing files...  Now, what I'm looking for is a means to do this
on my //GS- but from a programming point of view...

* I've created two new fonts which handle the Hiragana and Katakana characters

* I've also created almost 30 fonts specifically for the Kanji characters
  which comply to the JSL codes... KANJI30.24 KANJI31.24 ... KANJI4F.24
  where kanji $3A42 is found in KANJI3A.24 char $42...

With an exception handler in the TextEdit control, I intend to allow special
keys to convert from Romaji (English spellings of Japanese words) to Japanese
characters...

Has this been done before or am I just re-inventing the wheel...  The Mac does
this a whole lot differently, but I don't want to re-write any toolsets if I
don't have to...

Please respond to e-mail... Thanx.

joganic@caslon.cs.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: sadasiva@utkvx3.utk.edu (Sadasivam, Krishna Madur)
Subject: HELP ON FTP!!!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 00:32:00 GMT


Look, guys. I am going through sheer hell trying to figure out how to 
open a directory on cco.caltech.edu.

at the FTP prompt, after I logon as 'anonymous' and send my password as
my username, I'm at the FTP prompt, as such:

FTP>
to which I type:

FTP>dir

okay, now I get a listing of the files on the serrver.
How do I open the "pub" directory from the FTP> prompt??? I've tried 
EVERYTHING, it seems.

Stuff like:

FTP>/cd pub

FTP>open pub

Nothing works. I need HELP!! Please, someone, send me some E-MAIL on how to
do this. Be a Jedi Knight!

krish


Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: crogers@sctc.com (Clyde Rogers)
Subject: Geneaology Programs
Summary: Need a summary of geneaology programs for apple 2
Organization: SCTC
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:40:14 GMT

I'm looking for an Apple II geneaolgy program.  Anyone out there got
a list?

Thanks,
Clyde Rogers
crogers@sctc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: MODZap fiasco?
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:30:09 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.200129.8836@news.iastate.edu> achauhan@warsaw.math.macalstr.edu (Amrit Chauhan) writes:
:EMILIANO A DIAS writes
:> In <comp.sys.apple2> lots of people write:
:[Ian pampering nuked]
:
:Well, I think Ian was just looking for a whole lot of attention. ;-)

:< > Amrit Chauhan                 | achauhan@math.macalstr.edu < >

Since all we have seen from Amrit are cuts on Ian, can we assume this is
one of the people Ian is ticked off at?  Anyone near this school and have
some 'hardware' they would like to contribute to a behavioral modification
'course'...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: I have MTrkr ;-)
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:00:34 GMT

In article <RWIFALL.92Oct12121434@dante.nmsu.edu> rwifall@nmsu.edu (Richard J Wifall) writes:

[ ]
>
>Heh.. I'm always finding ways to find new and interesting bugs with
>MegaTracker and related code..  OOPS  <grin>  Make sure the synth you
>borrow has Sysex too, so you can test that also.. :)

What is MegaTracker?
>
>and Ian's right.. He isn't the only one with MegaTracker.. and I would
>like to point out that the way it's going, it is going to be the
>ultimate music program for the GS..(that's an understatement.. :)

Perhaps, one might be in a better position to judge this statement if we
had some idea of what it's supposed to do. Is it tool 35 based? Does it
have an editor, music notation, etc...?
 
The GS needs (1) a good sequencer which plays standard midi files back using
tool 35 (2) a universal audio, sound, music file translator with tool 35
forming the foundation upon which to build and (3) a good notation (music)
program which will play back scores using tool35.
 
The GS doesn't need more modplayers, although they are neat and certainly
worth the effort. However, they have no future. [No flames intended, implied,
etc...]
 

Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu