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From: guggi@kiwi.ucsb.edu (Lowe)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: SW junk
Date: 17 Apr 92 04:29:43 GMT
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Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara


1) I think Star Wars is the best of the three, maybe because it is such a
   part of my childhood (I had grown up a bit more when Empire came out)
   Empire is definitely really cool, and perhaps better made.  The more I
   see Jedi, the less I like it.  Everyone is a wimp and all the lines are
   cliche SW lines (way too many "I've got a bad feeling about this").  The
   battle scenes are great, the emporer is cool, but I liked SW when Vader 
   was the worst guy around, and he got flabby in RotJ.

2) Flaws (Even though I think finding little flaws is being way too critical)
   I can't remember the exact sequence, but watch the part in SW when C3PO and
   R2 are being sold to Luke and co.  R2 starts chirping about being left
   behind and a jawa turns him off (with the restraining bolt thing).  Then
   later, Owen says "How about that blue one? We'll take that one." and R2
   starts going without anyone turning him on.  Watch it and see.  Or is R2
   just temporarily stunned for a few minutes.

3) Anyone else notice that between SW and Empire, Solo has a door added to
   the Falcon's cockpit.

Lets stop posting about the Episode IV thing.  The concensus is that it was
not originally there.  I was surprised the first time I saw the words "A New
Hope".

Another question: who made up the names for the Kenner cantina toys?
Lucasfilms or Kenner.  They have always bugged me since I was 8.  Walrus Man!
Hammerhead!  With this kind of creativity Chewie would be a Furry Guy!

Fozzie Bear and Yoda were both voiced by Frank Oz, who worked with Jim Henson.
Bert is Oz and Ernie is Henson.  Miss Piggie is also Oz.

That's all.

guggi
From: ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: trivia
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:32:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Apr16.085554.12525@leland.Stanford.EDU> elizaga@leland.Stanford.EDU (Patrick Martin Laic Elizaga) writes:

>     If you were a jawa or were speaking jawa, when would you say,
>     "Ooteenie!" :)      [u ti ni]

After I shot R2D2 and he fell flat on his face(?).

>     Who's heard about how Darth Vader got his burns?

Sorry, don't remember this in any of the movies.

>     Before Uncle Owen told Luke to clean up C3-PO and R2, what was Luke
>     going to do?

He was going into town to pick up some  ??????

Owen replied 'You can waste time with your friends when your chores are done.'

>     How does R2-D2's name relate to mixing audio tracks in a studio?

In the movies, it doesn't. :)

>     How is Fozzie Bear related to Yoda?

They have the same voice?


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From: napalm@next03cville.wam.umd.edu (Warren L. Mohn)
Subject: Re: The last *ever* one was in Portland (was Re: Film Fests)
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 08:15:14 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.072749.20384@iWarp.intel.com> merlyn@iWarp.intel.com  
(Randal L. Schwartz) writes:
> Here in Portland Oregon (see my other post regarding how seriously
> we take movies around here), they showed (get this):
> 
> THE LAST EVER SCREENING OF ALL THREE STAR WARS MOVIES.
> 
> Sorry people.  We got it.  A few weeks ago.  And never again.
> 
> 
> The rest of you will just have to watch it on Laserdisc. :-) I mean,
> they said it at least twice in the ad: "after this screening, these
> three movies will be *pulled* from circulation *forever*."  I believe
> they were serious.  And since we were the town that ran Star Wars for
> 79 weeks initially (setting the record), they probably owed it to us
> to wrap it up.
> 
> Thanks, George!  (And I was *there*!  It's weird to have a ticket stub
> with "Star Wars" and a 1992 date on it. :-)
> 
Maybe the last official studio circulation, but you can still see the  
Original Star Wars movie in suburban Massachusetts, at least, on some   
pretty big screens every once in a while.  I'm pretty sure that some  
theatres in my area OWN the film.  Other theatres show Star Wars for  
fundraising efforts, etc.  You're lucky to see the entire trilogy,  
however.  I'm not sure TESB and RoTJ will be shown again anytime soon,  
especially since they can show the best one, Star Wars.  I wouldn't worry  
about NEVER seeing the film on screen again.  It's too big of a cash-cow  
for theatres.
From: v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Anyone for Fiction?
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:02:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


     How would everyone feel about fiction on the newsgroup?
     I'm not talking necessarily about me writing some, just
     in general.
     (Though I have been kicking around a premise for the 
     final trilogy that is kind of insane and shocking; some
     of you may remember the discussion about it on rasfm a
     while back...  I would kind of like to find time to write
     three short stories as the final trilogy.  How would people
     feel about me posting these?)

     My idea is something like: "It is a time of peace in the galaxy.
     Alliance forces led by Jedi Knight Luke Skywalker, striking at
     the remnants of the Imperial Starfleet, have beaten back the
     vestiges of the Evil Empire and set their sights on the 
     homeworld of the dead Emperor, seat of Imperial power."

     Something like that.  It would open with the battle for the 
     homeworld and the decisive victory that lets the Alliance restore
     the old Republic and bring about a "Camelot" of sorts.  And we
     all know what happened to Camelot...



                ^She's My Cousin But Doesn'
                      ^Look Almost Exactly^
           ____________^Like Laura Palmer^____________
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From: vidarthi@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jay Vidarthi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Last post
Keywords: Oops. Screwed up that last post. Anyway, does everyone know
	This is the name of one of George Lucas's earliest (first?) movies.
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:10:27 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

--Jay Vidyarthi (if anyone wants to flame me, feel free to send E-mail: I
 never get any E-mail anyway)
From: mjc@cats.ucsc.edu (Matthew Jude Cunningham)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Widescreen, Movie Posters
Date: 17 Apr 92 05:41:05 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz


 Hi I finally get to post on this newsgroup that I have waited months for.
I was wondering if their were any copies of tapes of the trilogy in
widescreen format. I know that they have the discs in widescreen, but I was
thinking of tapes.
Also I do not think they have any more original Star Wars movie posters,unless
you got it from the theater.I bought a reprint for over $100 and TESB folded
for $90, and RotJ for about $35, at Rick's Movie Graphics in Florida.
They have "Revenge of the Jedi" posters.

"Do or do not, there is no try"
             Yoda

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From: sharon@wam.umd.edu (sharon)
Subject: Re: Many things.
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 04:32:52 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.192921.22035@acsu.buffalo.edu> v113np2v@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (George D Emmons) writes:
>
>  To settle the debates which have gone on here in the past day...
>
>1) There were only two scenes shot for A New Hope which were not 
>included. Only two, folks. No others.

  OK, they were shot and not included in Star Wars - however aren't there 
other scenes that were in the original movie that are not on videocassette ?
I don't have a copy of the movie so I'm going stricly from memory here - but
waasn't there the Human-like Jabba and the torture droid in Leia's cell ?
Now, I am not questioning your knowledge, but out of curiosity where do you
get this information ? You reference sources  for some of your information but not this tidbit about ONLY two scenes being edited. What is your source ? 
There have been several posts along the lines of
"Episode IV .... was ALWAYS in the title" and "There was NEVER a scene cut
from Star Wars" etc. I'm curious where these scenes were not included and 
why these were the ONLY scenes that the studio shot that they edited out. I
find that hard to believe - a miracle must have occured in the editing room
or inside the cameras for no unworthy scenes to have been shot. Most movies
have alot of rejected footage.

>The scenes were:
>     Luke on Tatooine spotting the battle, going to Anchorhead,
>telling Camie and Fixer, meeting up with Biggs again, and speaking
>with him about his (Biggs') intentions of jumping to the Alliance
>with a friend when they get aboard the _Rand Ecliptic_.
>     Luke meeting up with Biggs before the final battle in the 
>Massassi temple hangar bay. Luke also meets Red Leader, who says
>he met Luke's father (no name given yet) when he (Red Leader) was
>a boy, and that if Luke is half the pilot his father was, he'll do
>better than "all right" (Read the script or the comic book for the
>meaning of that.)
>
>2) Star Wars was released as STAR WARS. After the release of TESB,
>the original was edited to say "Episode IV: A New Hope" in the 
>scroll in the beginning. Read the Empire coverage issue of _Time_
>magazine from around May 21, 1980 (Empire's release date) for 
>proof.

Laura 

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 02:35:22 EDT
From: BIG ED <EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Star Wars Poll: Which is the best?


     Ok everyone. I know this question was just previously asked, but let's see
 if we can handle it in poll-form. It's simple, and easy, and I'm sure this
 question comes up when Star Wars fans get together:


 =====>  What is the best Star Wars movie?


     Please send all submissions to EMW107@PSUVM.PSU.EDU in this form:


         1) Place your vote in the subject line of, or in the first line of a
            note.
         2) Vote ONLY for the Star Wars movie that you think is the best of the
            three.

     Each vote will receive 1 point. I will then post the results based on the
     number of points received. Please send all votes by Friday, April 24th.
     Any votes received after this deadline will not be counted.

     May the Force be with you, as you cast your vote.


                                     -Ed

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Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 14:12:22 EDT
From: John Frank <JJF112@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Boba Fett

I think that Boba Fett was the greatest character in the series. It is a damn
shame that he fell into the Sarlac pit. Regarding that, here is my opinion.
 IMHO, I don't believe that Fett really 'died' in the Sarlac. Here are my
reasons. First, Fett is a rather fearsome and cunning bounty hunter, and he is
 equipped with all sorts of neat equipment, especially his rocket pack. I know
that that was what sent him into the pit, but what's to say he couldn't get it
to work again? Also, he was in full body armor, and that would help, especially
since it took the Sarlac approx. 1000 years to digest it's 'meal'. I doubt that
 Fett could not have gotten out of the pit then. Some may say, well, the Sarlac
 burped after Fett fell in. Yeah, but if it taked 1000 years to digest, i doubt
 it burped beacuse of him, and there were many other creatures that fell into
 the pit before he did in that fight. Well, that's my opinion. I would really
love to see hime come back in a future novel/movie. Could you imagine the
 looks on Luke and Han's faces? :-)

                                           John
From: sfd@bezier.berkeley.edu (Scott Drellishak)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: John's Mysterious Clip
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:21:56
Organization: First Church of "Bob", Proctologist
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In-reply-to: TX.DH1@isumvs.iastate.edu's message of 17 Apr 92 03:26:14 GMT


STOP POSTING YOUR MOTHERFUCKING MAIL SPOOL, PUTZ!

I have spoken.

Scott
From: bike@athena.mit.edu (Michael Y Fan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Excuse me for my ignorance...(SWRPG)
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:34:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Apr16.183428.859
Distribution: usa
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <9210716.18402@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> fraser@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fraser Wilson) writes:
>bike@athena.mit.edu (Michael Y Fan) writes:
>>Here's my Trivia question:  Who wasn't at his post?  If you don't understand
>>this question, you need to watch the movies some more.
>
>Oh, no, how depressing.  I know the answer to this one (sort of).  It's
>in SW, in the Death Star, when they beat up on the stormtroopers guarding
>the Falcon, and so this guy says "<some number> why aren't you at your
>post?"
>
>Funniest line from the movies:  "Only Imperial Stormtroopers are this
>accurate."   Yeah, right.
>
>I think I'll go and get a life now.
>
>Fraser.

Actually, the quote is "Only Imperial stormtroopers are this PRECISE."  I 
assume you refer to the Jawa slaughter.

And yes, I am still waiting for someone to answer with the serial number of
the trooper.
						Mike Fan
From: jjl5730@usl.edu (Lancon Jeff J)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Idea of the Force (was Re: I'll get you, Luke..)
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:32:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: usl.1992Apr17.173227.15225
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana

In article <1992Apr15.233510.24368@athena.mit.edu> pckyip@athena.mit.edu (Patrick C Yip) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.205512.18391@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> commgrp@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (BACS Data Communications Group) writes:
>>
>>   I don't suggest that _Star Wars_ ripped off the plot of _The Wizard 
>>of Oz_, but can't help noticing certain parallels (JUST FOR FUN!):
>
>BTW I've read some comments that "the force" was derived from the "mystic"
>oriental philosophy and religion. Anybody wants to confirm this, or wants
>to disprove it?"
>
>Patrick
>

      It would have sounded funny of Obi-Wan said, 
	"May the Zen be with You"
          now wouldn't it?

-Jeff


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From: ratinox@meceng.coe.northeastern.edu (Richard Pieri/Stainless Steel Rat)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Excuse me for my ignorance...(SWRPG)
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:28:11 GMT
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>>>>> On 17 Apr 92 17:44:23 GMT, cole@concert.net (Derrick C. Cole) said:

>	PT-16

cole> Wild guess: The craft in which Luke used to "bulls-eye Womp Rats back
cole> home."

Actually, it's the T-16 Skyhopper. We also get a look at a model of one,
and the nose of Luke's in the garage.

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From: teebone@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rand Quinn)
Subject: Missing Scene in Star Wars
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 07:51:58 GMT


From teebone Thu Apr 16 00:51:50 1992
To: /s13/A/teebone/.article
Subject: Missing Scene In Star Wars


     Someone mentioned a scene in the movie that was later cut out.  My
brother remembers a scene in which Luke talks to Biggs about the academy.
I guess Luke may have been playing with his t16 model and there may have
been some kind of pool hall.  Also, the Star Wars storybook has a photo
of Luke talking to Biggs on Tatooine, so they did shoot it.


     *TRIVIA*
     What was Harrison Ford's license plate number in American Graffiti?
     What cell block did Han and Luke say Chewie was being transferred
     from in Star Wars?  
     (What film did George Lucas make with Robert Duvall?)


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From: kho@athena.mit.edu (Karen W Ho)
Subject: Re: Missing Scene in Star Wars
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:53:41 GMT

I believe the missing scene includes a conversation between Luke and Biggs 
in which Biggs tries to convince Luke to enter the academy. They later refer
to this conversation (towards the end of the movie) and compare the trench
on the Death Star to Beggar's Canyon (?) back on Tatooine.

--Karen
From: gt38091@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Gregory Tao )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: huh?
Summary: huh?
Keywords: huh?
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:48:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.1992Apr16.234835.5121
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

hello,	

i was hoping somebody out there could help explain some thing from star wars.	

it's been a while since i last saw it, but i think it's the scene where luke
is talking to ben after he rescues them from the sand people.  out of nowhere,
luke says "you knew my father"...that line never made sense to me.

on a lightert note, i agree that darth vader is my favorite character.  one of
my other favorite lines from him is "...don't be so proud of this technological	terror you've created...the ability to destroy a single planet is insignificant	next to the power of ther force" 

while i'm on the subject, something that really pissed me off was that luke
just jumped when darth vader said "luke, you can destroy the emporer...he has
forseen this...it is your destiny...join me now and together we can rule the
galaxy as father and son..."  personally, if my dad said that, i'd say "well,
allllllright!"

i'm sure i'll be in touch with you in the future.

seeya,

	greg

remember:  "you do not understand the power of the dark side...i must obey my
	    master"



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From: chris@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Chris Wolf)
Subject: Re: Cut-scene 2
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 07:09:10 GMT

In article <92107.144117EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu> BIG ED <EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>   Speaking of "cut scenes", how about in the Empire Strikes Back storybook?
>I really don't know what page it is on, but it shows a picture of Two-One-Bee,
>the medical droid, attending to a Taun-Taun. In the movie, you can briefly see
>it as an officer tells Solo that Luke hasn't checked in the south entrance.
>Solo then asks if the speeders are ready, and hops on a Taun-Taun. See if you
>can find it. It seems that there should have been more emphasis placed on it,
>but then again, maybe it's just me. Was it cut, or not?
>

I don't know if the scene was even ever filmed but I believe originally
a scene where some of the Wampa's got into the rebel base and mauled  
some Taun-Taun's was planned.  Artoo was supposed to save the day by
broadcasting some high-frequency noise or somesuch which either drove
the creatures away or lured them into a trap.  I have no idea where I
got this information from though...
 
In the scene with solo and the officer you can see what was intended
to be the aftermath of the Wampa attack - dead Tauntauns, some collapsed
wall and something which looks suspiciously like a blood-stain on the
back wall of the cavern.  


-Chris


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From: ahawks@isis.cs.du.edu (ronald reagan)
Subject: Antilles
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 04:08:57 GMT

Am I imagining or are there huge inconsistancies in the books and movies with
the name "Antilles".  I haven't read the books in awhile, and I haven't payed
close attention to the movie in awhile, but I seem to recall an abundance of
the name "Antilles":  C3P0 and R2D2 say something about "Our last master was
Captain Antilles", isn't Leia's father's name Antilles, and isn't Wedge's last
name Antilles?  

Woah:  I just noticed something I never saw/heard before, looking up that
reference where C3P0 says "our last master"...The holograph of Leia is playing
and Luke says "she's beautiful" and 3P0 says "I believe she was a passenger on
our last voyage (not quoting directly here, anymore), a person of some
importance if I recall".  Then he begins to say "Our captain was attached
to..."  Anybody know what the hell he's about to say here, before Luke cuts him
off?

--


ahawks@isis.cs.du.edu						andy

Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: timh@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Timothy James Hatfield)
Subject: Re: New group
Organization: Uni Computing Service, Uni of Sydney, Australia
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 13:03:47 GMT

In article <2815@tardis.Tymnet.COM> jms@romana.Tymnet.COM (Joe Smith) writes:
>This new newsgroup just arrived at my machine.  I looked in the 'control'
>newsgroup, and found this bit of information:
>
>| tymix!uunet!uunet!tale says:
>| rec.arts.sf.starwars is an unmoderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
>| creation by 383:77 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 9 April 1992.
>| 
>| For your newsgroups file:
>| rec.arts.sf.starwars    Discussion of the Star Wars universe.
>| 
>| The charter, culled from the call for votes:
>| 
>| Rec.arts.sf.starwars is for discussion of the Star Wars universe.
>| 
>| Topics of discussion would include: 

	[stuff deleted]

>| 
>|         o information/updates regarding a possible fifth movie
>|			 			      ^^^^^

	[remaining stuff deleted]

Fifth ? What about a fourth movie ?? Or do you dudes always include another
SW film (eg. "Holiday Special") in your discussions of the "trilogy" ??

If so, what was the "fourth movie" ??

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