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   From: dolsen@misvax.mis.arizona.edu (David Olsen)
   Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
   Date: 28 Aug 92 03:46:00 GMT
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   In article <1992Aug27.151106.3799@cbnewsk.cb.att.com>, lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes...
   >In article <1992Aug27.135359.19432@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
   >>Hey Ed, give it a rest.  This was not a comment concerning you, just a joke
   >>make on your (and my) behalf.  No one wants to listen to your whining and 
   >>bringing things up again.   Or are we going to hear you regurgitations 
   >>every time I post something?
   >Of course not. Who cares if you posted something about Bird and Magic and MJ?
   >But your previous post was in the same thread as our flame war. Talking about
   >stopping, huh?
   > 
   >I knew exactly the subject of our next flame war: Boston Bias/favoritism/3ptr.
   >Let's see how many days you can resist before reviving it.
   > 
   >-- 
   >                                          Edward Lor
   >                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
   >                                          

   You're a complete, unadulterated idiot Lor.  I often wonder if you're
   actually just a virus or an undergraduate AI program that lacked the
   knowledge base.  I want to see one intelligent post from you.  Not your
   definition of intelligent but the general definition of intelligent.



   David Olsen

I'd like to see one too, but he just can't do it.

ah
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: REASONS WHY AUSTRALIA COULD KICK DT!
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 1 Sep 92 10:07:06 CDT

In article <1992Sep1.035426.224@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> blip@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Bryan Lip) writes:
>HERE ARE SOME VALID REASONS WHY AUSTRALIA COULD BEAT THE USA TEAM THAT
>COMPETED IN BARCELONA, COMMONLY KNOW AS THE DREAM TEAM (PROBABLY BECAUSE
>THEY'RE ALL HALF ASLEEP?)
>
>1. AUSTRALIA BEAT PUERTO RICO BY 40 POINTS, THE USA COULD ONLY MANAGE A
>MEAGRE 38 POINTS..... AND AUSTRALIA DIDN'T PLAY ITS STAR PLAYERS MUCH IN
>THE SECOND HALF...
>
>2. THE NBA DOES NOT ALLOW A ZONE DEFENCE.... ONLY MAN TO MAN... HENCE WE
>COULD EXPLOIT THIS INABLILITY ON THE PART OF THE USA..... AND AUSTRALIA
>HAS BEEN PROVEN AS A VERY EFFICENT DEFENCIVE TEAM...
>
>3. EGO: THE USA THINK THEY ARE ALMIGHTY , ARE THEY REALLY? THEY ARE JUST
>12 MEN OF WHICH FIVE PLAY ON A BASKETBALL COURT AT ANY ONE TIME, AS DOES
>AUSTRALIA, BEING TO LAX AND THINKING THEY ARE GREAT COULD SPELL THEIR
>LOSS.
>
>4. TEAM? IS THE USA A TEAM? I DONT THINK SO, IT IS JUST A GROUP OF NBA
>ALL STARS WITH GREAT INDIVIDUAL TALENT, BUT NOT MUCH TEAM TALENT, JUST
>TELL ME HOW LONG HAS THAT TEAM BEEN PLAYING TOGETHER FOR, AND FOR HOW
>MANY GAMES....
>
>AUSTRALIA ON THE OTHER HAND IS A TEAM, WHICH MANG

Well, uh....   No, this is too easy.  I will keep calm, I will keep calm...

Too much vegemite today, Bryan?
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: rda455w@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (H. Nguyen)
Subject: Re: Jordan >= Magic && Bird
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:26:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.152443.5240@brtph560.bnr.ca> markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205) writes:
>> vreddy@das.harvard.edu (Venkatesh Reddy) writes:
>>> markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205) writes:
>
>I'll tell you why Jordan I think Jordan is better than Bird...it's because
>Jordan simply has no weakness.  Bird can't play defense, which is SERIOUS
>liability in my opinion.  He is just so DAMNED good on offense, he forces
>himself to be on my top-3 list:
>   1. Jordan
>   2. Magic
>   3. Bird
>
>As for who gets the edge where, my vote goes like this..
>
>Scoring:              Jordan (Bird's a scorer, too)
>Shooting:             Bird (Magic and Jordan are shooters, too)
>Passing:              Magic (Jordan and Bird can pass, too)
>Rebounding:           Bird (Magic and Jordan can rebound, too)
>Playmaking(team):     Magic (Bird is a team playmaker, too)
>Playmaking(individ):  Jordan (Magic is an individ playmaker, too)
>
>(*flame retardant suit on*)
>
>Defense:              Jordan (Magic is fair, Bird flat out sucks)
>Elevating Teammates:  Jordan/Bird/Magic (Bird with 3 Championships on teams
>                      with a pretty high average of talent, Magic with 5 
>                      Championships with the *highest* average of talent, 
>                      and Jordan with 2 Championships ***SO FAR*** with a 
>                      decent average of talent on the team)
>
This is the best evaluation of the Jordan, Bird, Magic match-ups I have read so far.    Clearly Jordan has the best all round game in the NBA.   Jordan is not  the greatest player because he scores more.   If scoring was the issue then WiltChamberlins name would be metioned in the comparision, but he does not contend  with likes of Magic, Jordan and Bird as the motherfucker couldn't do too much   else but score.

No one ever said that Bird and Magic aren't great players, it's just that Jordanis better all round.   Even Magic and Larry have stated this.    From the       comparision table above, Jordan scores very high in every catorgory, while Larryand Magic will have a *slight* weakness in their game, namely defense.

I want to put his comparison into another perspective.    I was wondering If it was possible for any player to win all three events at the Allstar game (Three  point shoot out, Dunk comp and Allstar MVP) ?    The only player who I could    think, either in the past or present, would be Mike.   He has already won the   Dunk comp and Allstar MVP and come pretty close in the 3-point shoot out.   I   think this is one of the challenges he would like to win before he retires.



-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
The game of basketball is no longer played on the ground, it is dominated in theair. 

FLY.
From: gjacknow@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Greg L. Jacknow)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: ReRotissere league scoring?
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:44:02 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.

Some friends and I are doing a fantasy league and were wondering 
about places to get the scoring done.  It has become too much work
for our comish to do the stats for 11 teams.  I am looking for
names and phone numbers of places/services and prices if you know
tham.

Greg Jacknow
gjacknow@gmuvax2.gmu.edu
From: bih@bagheera.East.Sun.COM (Bennet Ih - Sun BOS Hardware - Sunergy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: REASONS WHY AUSTRALIA COULD KICK DT!
Date: 2 Sep 1992 13:39:02 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc. - BDC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: bih@bagheera.East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: bagheera.east.sun.com

> From blip@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Bryan Lip)

[same "reasons" as before why australia would have kicked US butt plus
some other nonsensical crud in huge CAPITAL letters]

Wow. This guy really is serious about this. Well, it's obvious now that 
no amount of logic and reason will reach Bryan Lip so maybe if we all
shutup, this thread will just go away and die. 

Good dae!

Bennet
From: hira@cme.nist.gov (Ron Hira)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: FIVE ALIVE
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:50:57 GMT
Reply-To: hira@cme.nist.gov
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology

In article <1992Sep3.074150.17198@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>,
ogrady@iies.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael P. O'Grady) writes:
|>From: ogrady@iies.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael P. O'Grady)
|>Subject: Re: FIVE ALIVE
|>Date: 3 Sep 92 07:41:50 GMT
|>
|>In article <1992Sep2.184734.2536@cc.umontreal.ca>
iacurtop@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Iacurto Paul) writes:
|>
|>>5 good looking guys:
|>>Horace Grant
|>
|>Harvey Grant???  They are twins after all...

Yeah, 'cept he's got hair. Maybe the guy's into the Telly Savalas look.

Ron

|>Mike
|>
|>--
|>------------------------------------------------------------------------
|>   There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in their home.
|>        -- Ken Olson, President, Digital Equipment Corporation, 1977
|>------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Lloyd Danielsd (was Re: Spurs Update)
Keywords: Spurs
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:37:26 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley

In article <55883@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith) writes:
>
>The key with Lloyd (Daniels) is conditioning. I've written a lot of negative
>things about him on the college group, but as a pro player they no
>longer apply. Every pro stint he's had(CBA, WBL etc.) he's been accused
>of being out of shape and lazy. You can't play for Tark and be lazy.
>The skill is obvious when you watch him, he's smooth, passes and 
>dribbles like a much smaller player. His shot is iffy, as is his defense.
>
>I kind of hope he does well so his name doesn't go down in infamy as
>the guy with the most recruiting hype to never do diddly.
>

Why? After all, someone has to be at the bottom (or is it top?) of
the list. Feeling kind of guilty, Russ?

If Daniels turns into an NBA player, then who would the "most 
recruiting hype to never do diddley" mantle fall to? Larry Bird?

Ken B. 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: rstewart@ganglia.megatek.uucp (Rich Stewart)
Subject: Re: Selling the Lakers short (was Re: Who's gonna win it all )
Reply-To: megatek!rstewart@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:01:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.053147.19790@cheshire.oxy.edu> creasman@cheshire.oxy.edu (Scott Michael Creasman) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.150847.2418@megatek.com> megatek!rstewart@uunet.uu.net writes:
>>In article <1992Aug27.212833.13214@unislc.uucp> gsd@unislc.uucp (Greg Dodd) writes:
>>>        PACIFIC
>>>
>      
>     [Prediction stuff deleted]
>
>>>        LA Lakers      (James as great as you are you've played too many mins)
>>
>>Every keeps putting the Lakers in the cellar. Even without Magic, if the
>>Lakers are healthy,  they have Perkins, Worthy, Vladi, Peeler this year,
>>none of which played any significant number of games last year. And if
>>Threat has another good year, I  think they will  end up 1 or 2 in the west.
>>Now I do agree, without alot of youth added to the team they are in deep
>>trouble, soon.
>>-Rich
>
>Get a clue.... there's no way the Lakers will be even in the top 
>five in the West... making the playoffs will be quite an 
>accomplishment.  The only thing that's going for them is that 
>they're in one of the top three TV markets in the NBA.
>
>Creas
>

Well that is a nice emotional rambling you let loose with. Why do you give some
reason, rather than just shouting louder than anyone else. At the begining
of last season a lot of people thought the Lakers would have a great season.
Four of five starters ended up out for about 1/2 season on average. They
are getting old, but if they stay injury free, I think it is basically
the same team that started the season  last year.
-Rich
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205)
Subject: Re: Jordan >= Magic && Bird
Organization: Bell Northern Research Inc.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:38:29 GMT

In article <4223@3cpu.rain.com> edrury@.UUCP (Ed Drury) writes:
>
> No , I understood what you meant. I just spaced when he won an all star
>MVP. And I sure don't remember him almost coming close in a 3 point contest.
>I don't doubt any of the above, but as I told Andrew, I don't have a list
>of All-Star MVP's. Andrew  (I think) stated that he won it in 1991 but I
>remember Charles Barkley getting it. I did have the presence of mind to
>find my copy of Peterson's and they remember Barkley winning it in 1991
>as well. I don't doubt MJ won an All-Star MVP, I just don't remember what
>year it was and I don't remember him even being in a 3 point. However, I
>didn't see last year's 3 point contest and so I'm quite in the dark on
>what happened.
>
> So what year *did* Michael win the All-Star MVP? Given that Magic won
>1992 and Charles won 1991, I don't have stats for All Star games so I'm
>actually asking. You guys follow MJ, know his stats and all. I'm just
>looking for the answer. Remember, there is a seeker born every minute. :-)

I never said Jordan won in 1991, because he won in 1990 when the game was
in Chicago, and what a surprise it was...;^)

-- 
Andrew W. Markham (markham@bnr.ca)
Bell Northern Research, Inc.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: Perry@mte.ncsu.edu (Bill Perry)
Subject: Re: Predictions
Organization: Mat. Sci. & Eng., NCSU
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:02:45 GMT


>MY PREDICTIONS:
>
>ATLANTIC:
>
>New York Knicks		- A Lock unless they chock again
>Boston Celtics		- Lewis and Company (Pickney & Fox play more)
>New Jersy Nets		- So much talent but so few brains
>Miami Heat		- Wildcard IMO could do anything (real puzzle)
>Philadelphia 76ers	- Let the guards dribble around and shoot (Don't Miss)
>Orlando Magic		- If I hear the B52's anymore I will lose it
>Washington Bullets	- Pray that King comes back healthy
>
>
>
>						Dennis Joyce
>

I agree with your first four, but I put Philly last.  They have no front line
to speak of, unless 'spoon develops quickly.  I look for them last, with
Orlando fifth and the Bullets sixth.  Oh, and does Philly not have a 1st next
year, because of Jayson Williams??  It's going to be a LONG time before they
are in contention again.

Bill Perry
From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Selling the Lakers short
Date: 3 Sep 92 00:48:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.234658.112@EE.Stanford.EDU>, mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:
> koehnema@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Harry Koehnemann) writes:
> >kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi) writes:
> >>
> >>The Lakers won 40 odd games (around 44, if I remember
> >>correctly) last year. They played the last 2 months of the season
> >>with this patchwork lineup playing a lot of minutes: 
> >>Campbell, Green, Scott, Teagle, and Threatt.  
> >
> >Yea, but they won a good portion of those games *before* the injurys.
> >When Magic went down, the Lakers went on a rampage.  They were up with
> >the Pacific leaders early on.  I'd imagine they were ~.400 after the
> >allstar break.
> The Lakers went 15-21 (0.417) after the All-* break.


My point is that they won ~ 40 without Worthy and
Perkins in the 2nd half. If they stay relatively healthy, they
might win ~ 50 games next year in a tough division, good enough
for home court adv. in the first round at least.



_______________________________________________________
| Prashanth                    |                      |
| U. of California @ San Diego | prash@raman.ucsd.edu |
#######################################################
From: msmiller@Rational.COM (Mark Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Jordan >= Magic && Bird
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:01:26 GMT
Organization: Rational

In article <1992Aug26.152443.5240@brtph560.bnr.ca>, markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205) writes:
ear ;^)
|> 
|> Jordan still rules, though.
|> 
|> BTW, I don't know if you're trying to convince me that someone is better
|> than Jordan or not, but I just wanted you to know that it is impossible.

I give up on this entire thread.

As long as "defense" only means "1-on-1", and contributions other than
raw scoring are downplayed, this is just another "I Like Mike"-athon.

I have nothing against Jordan. He is the ultimate skill player. I just
happen to value the things Magic and Bird added to the game more.

	-MSM

________________________________________________________________________
Mark S. Miller                                     msmiller@Rational.COM
"Life is a 4-letter word."                        msmiller@world.std.com
[ insert tedious disclaimer drivel here ]                           IV-Q
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: grubin@virga.ucar.edu (Rick Grubin)
Subject: Re: Shaquille O'Neal interview
Keywords: Shaquille O'Neal
Organization: Big Ed's Gas Farm
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:58:48 GMT



hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan) writes:
>Just a qn. concerning the Olympic selection process.. How come Shaq not
>get the nod over the over-rated Laettner ? Did the people incharge (USA
>BASKETBALL) offer an explanation ? 

The reason that the Shaq didn't get to be on the Olympic Team is
because the other players (the pros) weren't willing to have their
contracts renegotiated to defer money so that Shaq could be signed
for the Games, unlike all those nice guys in Orlando.  However,
since Laettner could be signed for an amount under the salary cap,
he got the nod.

--
Rick Grubin     grubin@ncar.ucar.edu
From: dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel M. DuBois)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Jordan >= Magic && Bird
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:01:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bu0F5w.4o6
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

kettler@ahab.mit.edu (KETTLER, THOMAS R.) writes:

>In article <Btz1AL.EJ8@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel M. DuBo writes...
>> 
>>Theres an easy way to solve this folx... add up everyone's points per game
>>average and assists per game average (times 2) for the last 5-6 years and
>>compare...

>Thanks, Dan. If one does this, then he or she will determine that this question 
>is moot since it proves that Oscar Robertson is better than any of them with 
>his triple double over a six-year period.

>					Sincerely yours,

>					Thomas R. Kettler "Sixers Fanatic"

Well, no... he played in a different time against different oppoenents than
Jordan, Magic and Bird, whereas these 3 played roughly the same teams..

-Dan
From: IOR@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Thomas Hyer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: How can we compare PG's?
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:01:54 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center


  A subject which has been bugging me is that
assists, clearly the best existing measure of
the (offensive) quality of a point guard, are
about the most context-dependent statistic
imaginable.  The obvious example is Utah;
Karl Malone has the perfect combination of
(i) total inability to create anything on
his own and (ii) superb ability to finish
the play given a good `feed', so that he
clearly boosts Stockton's assist total. (Note:
Malone flamewars start your own damn thread.)
The question is, how much?

That is, is there any way that we can extract
from box scores the propensity of Stockton to
create assists, as opposed to Malone's propensity
to receive assists?  If we could find out what
portion of Stockton's assists went to other players,
who are (at best) league-average, we could compare
them with the corresponding numbers for other PG's;
in real life, we don't have this data.  Is there any
data out there which would make a decent substitute?

Tom Hyer
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: Rodman
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 02:53:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.190043.19466@cc.umontreal.ca>
iacurtop@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Iacurto Paul) writes:
 
>
>In article <1992Aug31.185424.19309@cc.umontreal.ca> iacurtop@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Iacurto Paul) writes:
>>
>>I am a big Dennis Rodman fan, but most of the people I know do not like him.
>>I must therefore conduct my own Dennis Rodman poll. I would like as many
>>replies as possible
>>
>>Dennis Rodman is
>>a) An all star; the best rebounder in the NBA
>>b) A good defensif player with run of the mill offensive skills
>>c) A goofy looking guy with big ears, who also wears the tightest pair of
>>   shorts in the NBA.
 
d) still not retired after all these months (despite what was posted to rsbp)
e) "a legend" according to the "above the rim" commercial.
 
footnote to a: And he's only 6'8"!
footnote to b: He once led the league in fg%
footnote to c: Those shorts aren't tight--the man has no butt!
 
>>Signe: Mr. Iacurtop
 
--Eric (I never left rsbp, just haven't posted much lately).
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: stu1d46@bnr.ca (Reg Domaratzki)
Subject: Re: Bird, Jordan, Magic...
Reply-To: stu1d46@bnr.ca (Reg Domaratzki)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 14:24:09 GMT

In article <5598@igor.Rational.COM>, msmiller@Rational.COM (Mark Miller) writes:
|> 
|> I look at it this way: if you had to show a 5 second clip to capture the
|> essence of Bird, Magic, and Jordan the Jordan clip would be a slam,
|> the Bird and Magic clips would be amazing no-look passes to teammates.
|> And I think THAT says it all.
|>

Negative.  The Bird highlight would be "The Play".  Eastern Conference Finals,
Game 5, 1987.  Boston down by 1.  Detroit's ball.  Isiah's pass to Laimbeer
picked off by Larry, passes to DJ in the lane for the winning lay-up.  They
showed that play again on a Bird tribute last week.  I got it on tape and
watched it about 50 times before I wrecked the tape.  But I digress.

Reg Domaratzki  University of Waterloo Co-op Student working at BNR in Ottawa
  "The problem with the future is that it keeps turning into the present."
          -Hobbes
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: Australias would heve beaten dream team
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:19:18 GMT

dewey@ccs.northeastern.edu (Dwight S Flewelling) writes:
>
>(B) many of the Australian Players and Doctors would NOT participate in a game 
					^^^^^^^
>    with the Dream Team and MAGIC b/c of his HIV positive Status.


Do you have the stats of the Australian doctors?  How tall are they?
Can they shoot the three?


--Gidi


PS: The Israeli women judo squad could crush the Dream Team.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: med50005@nusunix2.nus.sg (TAN CHOON KIAT)
Subject: Basketball Hall Of FAme
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 06:28:01 GMT

Where is the Basketball Hall Of Fame?  I'm thinking of visiting the US
sometime next year, and would like to pay this place a visit.
From: IOR@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Thomas Hyer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Who's who on RSBP (libelous)
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:02:00 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

name             slogan
----             ------
Dave Meeks      `wuggawuggawuggawuggawugga<much deleted>wuggawugga...'
Andrew Markham  `That wasn't a fuckup.  I, um, did it on purpose!  Yeah!'
Bill M..-Smith  `Facts!  All, IMHO, facts!'
Gidi Avraham    `Jordon is Gad, but that doesn't mean I'm unreasanoble.'
Venk Reddy      `I wasn't talking to you.  Or you either.  Where was I?'
Ed Lor          `GLAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGHHHHH!' (He says it's a syllogism.)

/Meeks/Kh:j
/l/Kh:j
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