From: jayson@tbag.UUCP (Jayson Phillips)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: re: New Amigas, A Proposal
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:37:05 EST
Organization: Tampa Bay Amiga Group

>From: Paula_Lieberman@amicol.UUCP (Paula Lieberman)
>Subject: Re: New Amigas, A Proposal Re: New Amigs, Finally
>Date: 11 Mar 92 05:18:24 GMT
>
>I -want- virtual memory. There is a 100 MB Quantum [which I suspect is
>beginning to stick.... sigh] hookNot
>enough memory" show up in my face, only having 2.5 MB of RAM, when trying
>to do some things.  I do -not- want a machine with an '020.  Apple uses
>them, yes -- and I don't have a whole lot of respect for Apple's products,
>never met one I wanted on -my- desk....  yes, I want more colors, more
>resolution, better manuals, bugs stomped better, but no, I do -not- want
>Apple hardware, Apple software, and Apple religion....  And to me, that
>Apple did something a particular way, or chose a particular component,
>casts suspicion upon what was chosen, because it was chosen by Apple.....  
>[not completely true, however, a couple other people I knew were also at
>the rollout of the Mac LC, IIsi, and Classic at the Bayside Expo months
>ago, and despite one of them being a computer professional fully enthused
>about Macs, he had -no- enthusiam for the models rolled out that day,
>particularly the underpowered, limited expansion LC...... which uses the
>'020.   Intentionally crippled machines are -not- needed inthe Amiga
>world!]
>
>
>-- Via DLG Pro v0.985b
 
Nothing wrong with virtual memory.  But it may be difficult to implement
in the Amiga OS.  And it could slow things down a little.  In any case,
it won't happen any time soon.  So you better figure out some other way
to solve the problem.  I'm a fan of "plug in another couple megs" myself.
If you've only got 2.5 megs you really can't complain too much. All Amigas
can be configured at least to 9MB.  In fact, most systems with virtual
memory (usually UNIX, and now OS/2) have 8MB or more.  And if you try
to do very much at all on these systems things slow down to a crawl.  If
you ever saw a MSDOS/Windos system with only one or two megs try to run,
say, two real application programs, then you would realize that virtual
memory isn't really very applicable to small systems with small memory.
It just slows down to almost unusable.  The Amiga's current OS is much
better at multitasking real applications.  If you're still at 2.5MB then
you've harly tapped the Amiga's memory capability.  Add another 2 megs
(Still only up to half full) and see how it runs.
 
As for the 68020: Apple does not make the 020.  Motorola does.  There were
many computer makers using the 020 be fore Apple.  Sun Micro Systems, 
Apollo, Hewlettthers.  There's nothing wrong with this
chip and it's not out dated as long as it provides a certain amount of
processing power for a reasonaMac LC uses the 020 on a
16 bit data bus, thus crippling the processing capability of the 020.  If
Cmdre made an 020 system with a real 32 bit data bus and clocked it at 
say, 16MHz, it would greatly out perform the Mac LC.  Actually Cmdre already
did this, the original A2500 had a 14.3Mhz 68020/68881 with 32 bit configured
memory on the 020 board.  (The Mac LC doesn't have the 68881 either)  I'm
not advocating the 020 for the top  mid range Amiga
for a reasonably low price.  The top line Amiga should have an 040 by now.
 
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