From: StarOwl@uiuc.edu (StarOwl)
Subject: Re: Fear of Success (was Re: Oregon poll)
Organization: Actuarial Science Program at UIUC
Reply-To: StarOwl@uiuc.edu
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 05:49:12 GMT
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cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
: StarOwl@uiuc.edu (StarOwl) writes:
: > cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
: > : How does Measure 9, by prohibiting the state from promoting 
: > : homosexuality, sanction violent attacks on homosexuals?
: > The answer to this question is left as an exercise to the reader.
: Thank you, but you still haven't answered the question.  WHERE
: does Measure 9 legalize violent attacks on homosexuals?  You provided
: the text, but there is NOTHING in Measure 9's text that legalizes
: what you describe.

Then you have found the answer to your question.

I think what most people are afraid of is that by the state's
official recognition of homosexuality as a Bad Thing, people will
take their homophobia to the extent of violent actions.

Under Measure 9, it would be almost impossible to get the true message
that gays, lesbians, and bisexuals aren't inherently "bad" across to
the people.  You don't have to agree with what people do in bed, but
their private lives do not make these people inherently "abnormal"
or "perverse" or "bad."

If I read the bill correctly (a copy follows my .sig), gay, lesbian,
and bisexual activists would not be able to legally rally/demonstrate
on public property.  Granted, I find most activists annoying, but they
have the right to express their opinions through rallies, marches, protests,
etc. on public property IMHO, so long as such activities do not
interfere with the rights of others.  Free speech... remember that
part of the Bill of Rights?  Under Measure 9, gay, lesbian, and bisexual
activists could potentially lose the ability to legally express themselves 
using techniques used by other activists -- a violation of the First 
Amendment.

Besides all this, I have a big problem with legislating that certain
forms of sexuality or sexual expression is inherently "bad."  It
isn't right to label people as "freaks" just because of what they are.
People do not "choose" their sexuality.   You can't really blame a
person for something they have no voluntary control over.

Anyway, is it really anyone's business what any other individual does
in his bedroom, who he/she sleeps with, etc?
--
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Marrou/Lord in '92


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                PROPOSED CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT

Be It Enacted by the People of the State Of Oregon:
    Paragraph 1. The constitution of the State of Oregon is amended
by creating a new section to be added to and made a part of
Article 1 and to read:
    Section 41 (1) This state shall not recognize any
categorical provision such as "sexual orientation,""sexual
preference," and similiar phrases that includes homosexuality,
pedophilia, sadism or masochism.  Quotas, minority status,
affirmative action, or any similar concepts, shall not apply
to these forms of conduct, nor shall government promote these
behaviors.
    (2) State, regional and local government and their
properties and monies shall not be used to promote, encourage,
or facilitate homosexuality, pedophilia, sadism or macochism.
    (3) State, regional and local governments and their
departments, agencies and other entities, including
specifically the State Department of Higher Education and the
public schools, shall assist in setting a standard for
Oregon's youth that recognizes homosexuality, pedophilia,
sadism and masochism as abnormal, wrong, unnatural, and
perverse and that these behaviors are to be discouraged and
avoided.
    (4) It shall be considered that it is the intent of the
people in enacting this section that if any part thereof is
held unconstitutional, the remaining parts shall be held in
force.

SUMMARY: Amends Oregon Constitution. All governments in Oregon
may not use their monies or properties to promote, encourage
or facilitate homosexuality, pedophilia, sadism or masochism.
All levels of government, including public education systems,
must assist in setting a standard for Oregon's youth which
recognizes that these "behaviors" are "abnormal, wrong,
unnatural and perverse" and that they are to be discouraged
and avoided. State may not recognize this conduct under
"sexual orientation" or "sexual preference" labels, or through
"quotas, minority status, affirmative action, or similar
concepts."