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From: hoahosth@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (ANDREA HOSTH)
Subject: Re: Star Trek - Deep Space 9
Organization: Halls of Residence, Monash University 
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 08:24:21 GMT

Here's the repost for the stuff I tried for this, now that I've figured out 
how to insert files...

The full title is Star Trek: Deep Space 9.  It
takes place on an old abandoned (half-finished, even) alien space
station orbiting a politically volatile planet that's just been
released by one of the Federation's enemies (the Cardassians, who I
guess you haven't gotten to yet.)  The Federation is asked to come in
and keep the peace, so our characters come (via the Enterprise, in the
opening movie) and once they've set up shop and installed modern
scanners and such, they discover that the system contains a stable
wormhole, the only of its kind known, an instant gateway to the other
side of the galaxy.  At which point the Cardassians decide that giving
up the planet was maybe not the world's brightest idea, and they want
it back now.  I think that's where the first episode leaves off.
The station commander is a bitter man who believes Picard is
responsible for his wife's death.  He comes aboard with his
fifteen-year-old son, rather more of a pain than Wesley.  O'Brien
transfers over to the station as operations chief (have they introduced
O'Brien yet in the TNGs you've seen?)  Already on the station is a
Ferengi merchant (who runs the station's brothel, among other things)
and his son, as well as an alien of unknown race, who remembers nothing
of his past and is believed to have fled through the wormhole from the
other side some time before.  This fellow is a shape-shifter, so DS9
will probably have the morphing effect in spades.  (When asleep, the
character is a blob of slime on the floor.)
Anyway, if you get the impression that DS9 and Babylon 5 sound somewhat
similar, you're not alone.  There is widespread suspicion that DS9 is a
ripoff of B5 in some way; the rumor goes that B5's producers first went
to Paramount, who turned them down, but the Star Trek people thought it
was a neat idea and proposed it as a Star Trek spinoff, which made
dollar signs pop up in the Paramount execs' eyes.  Both shows start
around the middle of January, so we'll see how they work out.


That's all

Ankh
Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: hoahosth@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (ANDREA HOSTH)
Subject: Star Trek - Deep Space 9
Organization: Halls of Residence, Monash University 
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 08:13:58 GMT

This is some information on this series which a friend of mine sent to me:



(Hope that worked - I've never tried inserting a file before....)

Ankh
From: jorgi@cs.uow.edu.au (George B Zamroz)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: Star Trek . Deep Space Nine .
Date: 14 Aug 92 11:55:29 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

Gil.Poznanski@f388.n634.z3.fidonet.org (Gil Poznanski) writes:

>        As it has been reported , the producers of the Next Gen . 
>have offically announced that a new Star Trek series called Deep Space Nine will
>be made , premiering January 1993 , ( for the U.S. ) .
>        The new Star Trek series - to be set at the same time as the 
>next generation - is onboard a space station near a newly discovered wormhole .
>        Does anyone have any other information about the series ? 
>The way channel nine is running the next gen , this series will never make it to
>Australian television .
>        All information is quoted from Starlog .
>                Thanks.
> 
>        Gil .

I heard that the space station was actually alien owned, but run by the
Federation.

Hopefully Channel Ten will carry the new series. They wanted to show Next Gen.
but didn't have the money. Channel Nine got it because Kerry Packer liked it
and simply told his programming people at Channel Nine to show it. However,
he is only supposed to have gotten the first two seasons, and so I don't know
what will happen after that. Also, since programming people hate being pushed
around, they haven't exactly gone out of their way to show it at the best
possible time.
-- 
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ex-Masters Student (Computer Science)        
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Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: hoahosth@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (ANDREA HOSTH)
Subject: Babylon 5
Organization: Halls of Residence, Monash University 
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 08:15:28 GMT

This is information from my friend on "Babylon 5". It sounds like a good 
series to me.



Again, I hope that worked. This series sounds quite good to me.

Ankh
From: kat@bacchus.esa.oz.au (Kathryn Andersen)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: No Such Thing as an Original Idea (was Re: Star Trek - Deep Space 9)
Date: 17 Aug 92 02:41:00 GMT
Organization: none

In <hoahosth.23.713953461@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au> hoahosth@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (ANDREA HOSTH) writes:
>and his son, as well as an alien of unknown race, who remembers nothing
>of his past and is believed to have fled through the wormhole from the
>other side some time before.  This fellow is a shape-shifter, so DS9
>will probably have the morphing effect in spades.  (When asleep, the
>character is a blob of slime on the floor.)
It's not fair!
I'd already thought of an alien like this, and now, if I ever use him,
people will think I got the idea from DS9!
(I know exactly where I got the idea from, too - it was a short story
I read in an anthology when I was in my teens.  Set on Venus, before
it became unfashionable to use Venus as an exotic alien planet.)

So, it just goes to show, there ain't no such thing as an original idea.
(TANSTAAOI)

Tanstaffl!

Kathryn Andersen
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From: chung@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ilsup Chung)
Newsgroups: news.future
Subject: test
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:20:39 GMT
Distribution: news.future
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

This is just a test. Sorry!
From: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Mark Bixby)
Newsgroups: news.future
Subject: Re: reading news from multiple NNTP servers.
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:26:54 GMT
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

The NNTP version of trn can do this, via the NNTPSERVER env variable.  I've
built a script which allows flexible access to multiple servers.  It will
store the required "dot" files (.newsrc, .rnlast, .rnsoft) in a $HOME
directory of .trrn-{nntpserver}-{user $NAME}.  You need to keep separate
.newsrc files for each NNTP server or else trn will get really confused.
Here's how I do it; my default NNTP server is news.cerf.net:

#!/bin/sh
NNTPSERVER=${NNTPSERVER:-news.cerf.net}
suffix=${NAME:+`echo $NAME|sed -e 's/[^[:alpha:]]//g'`}
DOTDIR=${DOTDIR:-"$HOME/.trrn-$NNTPSERVER${suffix:+-$suffix}"}
export DOTDIR NNTPSERVER
if [ ! -d $DOTDIR ] ; then
  echo I am creating the following DOTDIR directory for you: $DOTDIR
  echo This will prevent trrn from conflicting with your standard trn files.
  echo "Please press RETURN to continue...\c"
  read junk
  mkdir $DOTDIR
fi
PATH=/usr/contrib/bin/trrndir:$PATH
export PATH
/usr/contrib/bin/trrndir/trrn
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District Information Services      Costa Mesa, CA, USA  92626
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Newsgroups: news.future
From: danisch@ira.uka.de (Hadmut Danisch )
Subject: Dynamical Subgroups of Newsgroups
Reply-To: danisch@ira.uka.de
Organization: Univ. Karlsruhe
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:05:43 GMT

Hi,

what about this modification of News:

In most newsgroups there are discussions over special
subjects, e.g. abortion, smoking, or something
like "How to take pictures of little blue flowers" in rec.photo.

These discussions normally die after some days/weeks and not
everybody is interested in reading these discussions.

In these cases we could add an additional line to the message, 
something like 

Subgroup: flowers

The Newsreader would generate a subgroup, which would have
a name like rec.photo.flowers. This new subgroup could appear
as a normal Newsgroup or as a folder in rec.photo.
When the last message in this subgroup has expired and the
folder gets empty, it is automatically destroyed.


This would make finding of messages for a special subject much
more easier and it would reduce the number of newsgroups.



Hadmut Danisch  (danisch@ira.uka.de)







Newsgroups: news.future
From: jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Subject: Re: Dynamical Subgroups of Newsgroups
Organization: AS&M Inc
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:24:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.120543.298@ira.uka.de> danisch@ira.uka.de (Hadmut Danisch ) writes:

   Hi,

   what about this modification of News:

   In most newsgroups there are discussions over special
   subjects, e.g. abortion, smoking, or something
   like "How to take pictures of little blue flowers" in rec.photo.

   These discussions normally die after some days/weeks and not
   everybody is interested in reading these discussions.

   In these cases we could add an additional line to the message, 
   something like 

   Subgroup: flowers

Reasonably chosen Subject: headers combined with threading newsreaders
provide this utility now (not the same implementation, of course).
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employed by, not speaking for, AS&M Inc, at NASA LaRC, Hampton VA 23681
Newsgroups: news.future
From: jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Subject: Re: reading news from multiple NNTP servers.
Organization: AS&M Inc
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:43:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.010716.16392@news.iastate.edu> spam@iastate.edu (mike begley) writes:

   Is there ans newsreading software that will allow me to read news from
   multiple NNTP servers?  For example, I read some news on from our local
   server, and read some groups on a remote server.  I think it would be
   to have another field in the .newsrc file that specifies what server the
   groups are to be read from.  this would

     -widen the range of groups a user may read
     -allow users to spread their use over multiple sites, thereby spreading
      the load from some overloaded sites
     -lessen the danger of censorship by giving users a choice of server; they're
      not limited to the range of groups their administrator decides to carry.

   Is this a possibility?

GNUS has this capability, but implemented a different way.  It can
use ~/.newsrc-<server>, where <server> is the name of the server....
I'm not sure where to find it (I didn't install it), but you can
probably ask on gnu.emacs.gnus.
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From: zane@infopls.chi.il.us (Sameer Parekh)
Newsgroups: news.future
Subject: re: G command
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 15:38:44 CDT
Organization: INFOPLUS support, Wheeling, IL

aryeh@cash.ucsc.edu (Aryeh Friedman) writes:

> Sounds good but how do you purpose to make this data easly avaible to the new
> reader?
> -- 
> Aryeh M. Friedman, Just an other bum from net land.
> "Thats not a widget it is an intearctive template of some strange kind"
> aryeh@cash.ucsc.edu or sarek@tmi (as in the mud)

        In the newsgroups spool directory, a file can exist.

$SPOOLDIR/misc/popcorn/buttered/group-file

        If the file needs to be updated, a post can be made with the 
Subject:

Subject: UPDATE: Group-file
(And the appropriate Date: Supercedes: etc.)

---
Sameer Parekh   zane@ddsw1.MCS.COM      zane@infopls.chi.il.us
From: rich@grayhawk.rent.com (Richard Harms)
Newsgroups: news.future
Subject: Re: G command
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:29:49 GMT
Organization: Des Moines, Iowa, Public Access Unix; 515/277-6753
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Sameer Parekh (zane@infopls.chi.il.us) wrote:
:         In the newsgroups spool directory, a file can exist.
: 
: $SPOOLDIR/misc/popcorn/buttered/group-file
: 
:         If the file needs to be updated, a post can be made with the 
: Subject:
: 
: Subject: UPDATE: Group-file
: (And the appropriate Date: Supercedes: etc.)

Adding yet more special-case support to news transports - Kinda of a kludge
don't you think?

Why not use the tools we already have, and have the news reader look for a
message with the subject "UPDATE: Group-file" in the messages in the group?
Then you could use existing Expires:/etc. for controlling its update... 
Add an Approved: header and I doubt you'd have anything less hackable than
existing moderated groups on Usenet. (Admitably some overhead for finding 
that subject, but if you're using a reader like 'trn' it wouldn't be too
bad...)

-rh
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Newsgroups: news.future
From: mskuhn@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Markus Kuhn)
Subject: USENET and MIME
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:52:52 GMT

Short questions are often the best ones:

    How does MIME (a mail extension) relate with net news?

Markus

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From: peterw@DIALix.oz.au (Peter Wemm)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: in.coming on a different partition?
Date: 23 Aug 92 13:54:48 GMT
Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Western Australia

I had an argument with somebody a few days ago....  The machine that
I am posting from has disk space problems.  If a large burst of news
comes in, /usr/spool/news fills up and batches are lost.  One of the
people here has rigged up a complex system to catch batches that
wont fit and put them on another partition.  It "works", but
has a habit of leaving lots of uncompressed batches in in.coming
which can't be uncompressed due to no space.

I suggested symlinking in.coming to point to our overflow catchment
area and dump the system for trying to save and feed overflowed batches
back in when there is space.

spacefor would need adjusting because the df command won't cross
symlinks. (This is a SCO 3.2v4 system)

Anyway, the problem was that he maintained that the unbatcher split
the articles in in.coming and linked the individual articles into
the proper place - then unlinking the article in in.coming.  I have
watched the newsrun many times and never seen this happen.

I would have thought that moving in.coming off the /usr/spool/news
partition would have been a gain, not a loss in performance.  He
also maintained that this would fragment the other partition quite
badly (because if the small files he says are created there during
unbatching).

Another point, this is a rather ancient version of cnews too, (it
still creates empty batches from expired articles) and try as I
might, I can't get them to upgrade to something newer.

The tail of the PATCHDATES file:
18-Jan-1990
12-Mar-1990
14-Apr-1990
15-Apr-1990
16-Apr-1990
25-May-1990
15-Apr-1990

Currently, news processing is a large drain on the system
performance.  When the news spool fills up, it really begins to
crawl.  Would moving in.coming help with our overflow problems?
Would it improve or degrade our already streched system
performance?

-Peter
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Newsgroups: news.software.b
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: using uux in the sys file?
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:11:50 GMT

rich@grayhawk.rent.com (Richard Harms) writes:

>(yet another configuration question... :)

>Recently, I had a site ask me for a connection for unbatched/uncompressed
>news... no problem I though, c-news had the same line for doing this:

># sample insignificant feed not using batching (for special situations only)
>huey:news.config,to.huey/all::uux - -r -gd huey!rnews

I set my uncompressed newsfeed up in the batchparms file -- and specified
an "unbatched" feed to a specific site using "nocomp"

site		4000000	20	batcher	nocomp	viauux

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From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Re: Pathalias takes over computer --- News at 11:00
Date: 16 Aug 1992 16:51:23 -0400
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: nigel.msen.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

pathalias v10 from
	citi.umich.edu:/usr/honey
will answer the general problem of v9 versions going nuts.

--Ed
Newsgroups: news.software.b
From: molenda@i1.msi.umn.edu (Jason Molenda)
Subject: I am stupid (compiling C News under IRIX)
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:27:16 GMT

First, I should say I've been running C News systems for a few years
now, so I'm not exactly new to C News.

However, I'm trying to compile it under IRIX (4.0.5/4.0.1) for the
first time, and am having problems with the libcnews.a that it builds.
This is during doit.bin.  When it gets to compiling batcher.c, ld
claims the hefree() can't be found.  I pull out hdbm.o from libcnews.a
and nm (-B for berkeley style output) says the following about
hefree():

00000000 U hefree
00000370 t hefree

which, if I understand right, is correct.

Not really caring about batching, I just touched batch/batcher and did
doit.bin again and it died in expire with the following:

        cc -O -D__STDC__ -I../include   expire.o   ../libcnews.a  -o expire
/usr/bin/ld:
Undefined:
timeconv
daylcorr
lookup
hefree

Which all seem to be in libcnews.a.

I told it I have `usg' libraries, I gave it the -D__STDC__ flag, I have
no ranlib and it is doing the sym table build.  The most suspicious
thing I have is when it rebuilds the sym table for libcnews.a it spews
out the following:

s - creating symbol hash table. Wait...
ar: Warning:ignoring second definition of str3save defined in archive
s - done

Trying to be clever, I took apart libcnews.a and put it back together
again and tried compiling batcher.c with _that_ libcnews.a, but to no
avail.

Has anyone seen this?  I'm working on the Performance Release and have
applied all the known.problems.  I modified include/libc.h to get rid
of a couple of prototypes that didn't match the standard system ones (I
just removed them from include/libc.h).  I also tried this from scratch
with the Dec 22 release and that didn't work either (same problems).
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From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Re: using uux in the sys file?
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:13:21 GMT
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology

In article <Bssyxu.8H7@grayhawk.rent.com> rich@grayhawk.rent.com (Richard Harms) writes:
>iamug:dsm,news.announce.newusers,rec.arts.startrek,\
>        comp.sys.mac/all,!ghmtg,!mtg::uux - -r -gd iamug!rnews
>
>And so far so good... but now once per hour when I do batching, I get five
>mail messages from news, each one contains one of the following errors:
>
>/Usr/Lib/Newsbin/Batch/Sendbatches: cannot find batch directory for `uux'

Sure you didn't leave something like an F flag in that line?  It certainly
sounds like relaynews or one of its friends is creating a batch file rather
than executing the command.
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Newsgroups: news.software.b,news.software.nntp
From: rsalz@osf.org (Rich Salz)
Subject: Re: Announcing the release of InterNetNews
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 21:02:15 GMT

In <1992Aug21.214719.17291@clarinet.com> brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton) writes:
>Rich, does INN include some dummy interfaces to look like relaynews,
It has a dummy relaynews that understands a few flags and can parse one
article.  (It does this by munging flags than exec'ing inews.)

>ie. a program that takes a file with a batch of articles and stuffs it
>at innd?
rnews does this.  It offers articles to the innd server.  Since rnews
speaks nntp, it can (and does, at uunet) run on a host that is not
the same host where innd is running.
>          Or will I have to rewrite tools that currently call relaynews
>with single articles and/or batches?
Single articles, no.  Batches -- if you need commandline flags, yes.
I would be interested in helping with this, if its really needed.

>I presume it has an rnews program
Yup, as described above.
	/r$
Newsgroups: news.software.b
From: bdb@becker.GTS.ORG (Bruce Becker)
Reply-To: news@becker.gts.org
Subject: Re: Double filing due to cross-post to active file aliased groups in Cnews
Organization: G. T. S., Toronto, Ontario
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:50:43 GMT

In article <BsHnEv.GtB@world.std.com> geoff@world.std.com (Geoff Collyer) writes:
|On the contrary, it's a bug in the way people use the = flag and in the
|readers.  The = flag was never intended to be used as a group "aliasing"
|facility; it's meant to deal with broken mail-to-news gateways.  The
|readers have been in error in assuming that multiple xref's could not
|occur in a single group.
|
|As Henry said, the duplicates will be suppressed when I eventually
|rewrite fileart.c and no sooner.


	I'd like to request that when you do, you
	include a separate aliasing facility that
	(gasp!) actually rewrites the Newsgroups:
	line (using another token such as ">" for
	the active file reference).


	Perhaps this could be coupled with syntax
	to change it remotely, using the newgroup
	control message (and appropriate checking
	similar to moderated status)...


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From: rich@apricot.co.uk (Richard Jones)
Newsgroups: news.software.b,biz.sco.general,comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: c-news compiling on SCO
Date: 13 Aug 92 09:38:06 GMT
Organization: Apricot Computers Limited

bill@Celestial.COM (Bill Campbell) writes:

>In <BsuC2p.451@gator.rn.com> larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:

>:jpr@jpradley.jpr.com (Jean-Pierre Radley) writes:

>:>>It's a well-known fact that C News won't work on SCO Unix.  In fact,
>:>>once you get past the above bug, you will find that it generates
>:>>hu-YUUUGE database files.  This problem can't be programmed around as
>:>>there is a kernel hack in SCO that makes dbz files not work unless they
>:>>are larger than 102.4 meg big.  SCO refuses to fix this since they
>:>>consider it a "feature".

>:if the optimizer is disabled -- c-news will run fine on a SCO box

>Or compile with gcc and optimize to your heart's content.

Or with rcc for that matter.

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