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From: bergerson@cvdv79.mayo.edu (Chad D. Bergerson)
Subject: Re: Vikings Trivia
Reply-To: bergerson@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Clinic, Rochester, MN
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:01:01 GMT



>trivia on probably the biggest single play in Vikings history. I'll give 
>you one hint: It was in the 1975 NFC Championship Game.

NOT!!  it was in the first round of the playoffs

>1) What was the famous play? Why was it so famous?
Roger Staubach threw a game-winning last minute TD pass to Drew Pearson


>2) What team did the Vikings play?
    The Dallas Cowboys

>3) What stadium was the game played in?
     good ol Met Stadium in Bloomington

>4) Who was the quarterback on the field during the play?
      Roger Staubach

>5) Who was the player most directly involved?
       Drew Pearson (dallas) and Nate Wright (Vikes)

>6) Who were the defenders on the play?
       Nate Wright (offensive interferenc against)  and maybe Paul Krause
   
>7) Who did the winning team go on to play?
       Dallas lost to Pittsburgh in the Super Bowl and i would guess that they
    probably beat the LA Rams in the NFC championship game

>8) BONUS) What was the infamous reaction of a fan in the stands?
     Some fan in the stands ( I would personally like to congrat the guy) threw
   a snowball and beaned official Armen Terzian (sp) and cold-cocked him real
  good.  He was never caught.  I think he should have gotten a medal, except that
he beaned the wrong official.

THIS WAS THE SINGLE BIGGEST SCREW-JOB IN NFL HISTORY.  I have to be physically
restrained from smashing the TV each time some moronic highlight show replays 
this play.  It was clearly a case of offensive interference, as Drew Pearson
shoved Nate Wright to the ground and then caught the fucking ball on his hip
with one hand and walked into the end zone.  If you want an on-field view of 
what really happened, read Fran Tarkenton's book  "Tarkenton",  it is 
excellent!!   1975 is the year that the Viking were on a roll and would have
easily won the Super Bowl.  to have it taken away by some gutless, fucking moron
officials is really hard to take.

                                    I stop now before my BP gets too high
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From: gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon Storga)
Subject: Re: Kick of the Day (at least)
Organization: Stay Awake Software
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 20:09:15 GMT

<1992Nov17.200550.17093@ide.com> latone@trixie.ide.com (Joe Latone) said:
>Isn't there still (or at least I think there used to be) a little-known,
>never-used rule that allowed the kick-off team to actually try for the
>field goal when kicking it off, where missing it meant
>that the opposing team would get possession of the ball at the 
>point of the kickoff, i.e., the 35 yard line, today, or what used to be
>the 40 yard line (as far back as I could rememebr, anyway)?

Nope.  Any team *fair-catching*  *any* kick can elect to try a free-kick.
It is teeless, but the defense has to be either off the field or out of
the has marks.  It's kind of like a technical free-throw in basketball.


Gordon
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From: gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Intentional Grounding?
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:50:53 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


>(b) A passer is permitted to legally stop the clock to save
>time if immediately upon receiving the snap, he begins
>a continuous throwing motion and throws the ball forward in
>the direction of the sideline.
>
>*END QUOTE*

I always wondered why intentional grounding was never called for spiking the
ball to stop the clock.  Now I know!  Thank you.
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From: dougf@neptune.informix.com (Doug Fielder)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Kick of the Day (at least)
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:25:05 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <27000139@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell) writes:
>*drift on*
>If you think that was fun...just wait until Fielder, Canseco, McGwire etc
>get their first at bats against the Rockies.  Ouch.
>*drift off*

Not likely to happen for a while unless these guys get drafted by either
of the expansion teams.

Doug (Don't call me Cecil) Fielder
Informix Software, Inc.
Lenexa, KS
dougf@neptune.informix.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: Perry@mte.ncsu.edu (Bill Perry)
Subject: Re: THE BET II
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:41:34 GMT

In article <By1D2s.9y2@acsu.buffalo.edu> kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist)
writes:
>In article <Af3FxxC00iUxA31PI=@andrew.cmu.edu> yc25+@andrew.cmu.edu (Young-Soo
Che) writes:
>>In regard to,
>>>   Ok, to show that Bills fans do have some sympathy, I will offer a vote to
>>>  all Bills fans participants of the BET II. email your vote.
>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> 
>>>  VOTE YES:  The four Dolphin fans that were involved in the bet should
>>>             be allowed to post again until SB 27.
>>> 
>>>  VOTE NO:   The four Dolphin fans that were involved in THE BET II should
not
>>>             be allowed to post again until SB 27.
>>> 
>>I vote Yes, let Doug post.  Let Doug the Dolfan back and post.
>>It's not a sympathy thing, just let him post again.  It's more fun with
>>him around, you Bills fans got what you wanted, the win.  If for no
>>other reason, we'll need Doug around for a probable Bet IV for the AFC
>>Championship.
>>Go Fins Go 
>
>Sorry, but you weren't asked to vote. Only the Bills fans who took THE BET
>II are voting, and I am again voting NO!
>

	I also was on THE BET II,  and I say we should kick them off until the Bills
clinch the title.  Then they can come back on and cry about the weather in
January, ect.... Things us Bills fans love to hear.

Bill Perry
Winner - THE BET II
From: grantham@beirut.berkeley.edu (Jon Grantham)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Washington-Kansas City Game Summary
Date: 16 Nov 1992 13:22:26 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
NNTP-Posting-Host: beirut.berkeley.edu

swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams) wrote:
>RUSHING
> Redskins:   At  Yd  Lg  TD   Chiefs:     At  Yd  Lg  TD
...
> Ervins      10  17   7   2   Krieg        3   3   2   0
                          ^^^
Unfortunately, I think this is a typo either on your part or the Post's
part.  Sigh.  It was nice to hear young Ervins scored once, though.

And Steve, thank you very much for your reports from Redskins Country.
Those of us exiled in other parts of the country deeply appreciate news
from the One True Source of Redskins information, the Washington Post.

Jon
From: v073pzuy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Damned for all time...)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Dream Match-Ups...
Date: 24 Nov 92 00:12:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

San Diego manages the last playoff spot in the AFC and pulls a first-round upset
against a struggling Denver squad, who is missing John Elway.  San Diego travels
to Buffalo, where the Bills break Ronnie Harmon into little itty-bitty pieces
on the first play from scrimmage.
From: boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:57:31 GMT
Subject: Re: Stud (Stupid?) Play of the Day
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

Elroy is a dork with Donkey teeth.  On a more serious note 'Was it wise
to make such a bonehead play when your team depends on you to make it to
and progress through the playoffs?'  If the game was on the line I can see
this happening.  But against the Giants when the game was under control?
Very risky.  Maybe Elroy should take a look at QBs like Moon and Cunningham
and think about what has happened to them over the last couple years. 

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From: nitin@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Nitin Khanna)
Subject: Re: SUPER BOWL TALK: BILLS AND 49ERS
Organization: Houses of the Holy
Distribution: world,local
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 17:15:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.211908.4642@PacBell.COM>, jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
> In article <Adriene_Nazaretian.20.0@QM.cis.YALE.EDU> Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.cis.YALE.EDU (ALN - Go Giants!) writes:
> >In article <Bxx5My.1oM@acsu.buffalo.edu> v130pwbq@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST) writes:

> they have no backbone, besides having hard-ons, but that doesn't count
> unless you're a woman or queer.
> 

WHy is this group starting to sound like alt.sex?


-- 
Nitin Khanna.  I Teach Eunuchs - I mean Unix.
Go Bulls, Bears, Broncos, Blackhawks.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: chrisc@cae.wisc.edu (Chris Carey)
Subject: Re: NFC Central news...
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin--Madison
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:57:01 CST

I noticed two people who said the Packers have won their last two.  Unless I'm
mistaking(very possible) it's three in a row.  Detriot, Philadelphia, and the
Woodchucks.  Sure Tampa blew out the Packers about seven weeks ago, but...
A)It was in Tampa
B)The Packers have gotten A LOT better since then(I watched the game against
Tampa, they were just atrocious).
C)It seems as if Tampa Bay has gotten worse.
D)The game is going to be up in the cold of Milwaukee.
E)The Packers have got a lot of momentum, the Bucs have some too...bad momentum

Packers 27       Tampa Bay 10

Detriot...
Well the Packers three or four weeks ago blasted Detriot in Detriots nice warm,
secure dome.
Lets see how the Lions do in the cold of Green Bay.

Packers A Lot    Detriot Not Enough

Los Angeles...
Should be a good game, I respect how they've been doing.  I think this game
will be close...but (once again I'm gonna mention the weather, boy I hope it
snows and is cold, otherwise I'm gonna be bummin) I think the weather will bump
them over the top.   8-6...


Houston...
Unfortunately I think Moon will probably be back, and I've got to say :-(
Houston over the Pack at Houston.  8-7...


Minnesota...
This game I'm not even going to guess about for a number of reasons:
A)It's in Minnesota, Minnesota is tough in their dome.
B)The Packers always play Minnesota tough
C)Who know's if it's even going to mean anything?(although I obviously think
it's going to).
D)I'm not sure just how tough Minnesota is, when they played the Packers it
went to overtime.  Furthermore, as everyone keeps saying, they have yet to beat
a team with a winning record.

So I'll just shrug about that one, maybe I'll speculate later.






-Chris C.


_____________________________________________________________________________
Favre fades back, play action...throwing long!  Looking for Sharpe!

TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
From: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: 5-5 BET II VOTE TIE! JIMARCEY SWING VOTE NEEDED!
Date: 23 Nov 92 00:53:12 GMT
Reply-To: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Originator: delarocq@c00057-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu


 
  These are the votes so far:


       		YES				 
	       -----		      		 
1	v067ftek@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu 
2       delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu
3       Anjay
4       ault@ansoft.com
5       spuddy!markl

                 NO
               -----
1       msanfrat@cs.ucsd.edu
2       jmc162@psuvm.edu
3       Bill Perry
4       kist@acu.buffalo.edu
5       Jon


 
 jimarcey is the tiebreaker. Good luck-- your vote is the swinger!! 
 ...and the tension mounts.... :)
-- 
delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu


      
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1991,1992 AFC Conference Champions

Hungry for some fish.. Monday Night Football, November 16, 1992..

If you are a Buffalo Bills fan, email me at delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu
so we can talk all about the games, insight, etc.
If you are a Packers fan, let me know. I am interested in any news
out of Green Bay...
A PROUD MEMBER OF THE BILLS COALITION TAKING THE BET II.
From: rjk@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Raymond K)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Worst/Best Trades
Date: 18 Nov 1992 14:10:58 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Howard Hughes Medical Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu

It just occured to me, shouldn't the worst/best trades be
the same ones?


Ray   GO COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Stats for Monday night Bills win...
Date: 17 Nov 1992 18:52:45 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

I would greatly appreciate it if anyone could Email me the scoring from
Monday's game and the individual stats for Thurman Thomas, Dan Marino and
Mark Clayton.

thanks again,

--salty

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The Purple Bleeder )
Subject: Vikes/ Browns Game....another ugly show by the Vike-O
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 03:13:33 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


Once again the super-D bails out the Vikes with its 8th TD
for this season.  Well, the Vikes were lucky to add another
win in their column with this poor offensive show.

Gannon was out of the ball game after he threw an interception
following a turn over by the Browns after a Viking punt. He was
also involved in a fumble early in the game and the Browns
recovered and turned it into a TD-resulting drive.

With this kind of O I dread to think what the Vikes will
do against the Eagles and the 9ers. As for the Browns,
they are young and will improve as time goes on. They
have a very good-D and their O needs to improve a bit
before they can be a playoff team.

S.H
From: unregistered@newcastle.ac.uk (Z. Gillbanks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: HELP ME - PLEASE!
Date: 20 Nov 92 13:54:45 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU


        Does anyone out there have all the results of games up to week 12 (now?).I
would be pleased if anyone out there could post them or mail them to me at:-

        Zac.Gillbanks@newcastle.ac.uk

Thanks in advance,

Zac.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Playoff rematches (was: SUPER BOWL TALK)
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Distribution: world,local
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:49:13 GMT

v130pwbq@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST) writes:
>I know that there exist many more instances, but off the top of my head I can't
>remember any more. Feel free to add on.

Going back to 1979, we have six superbowls that were rematches of the
regular season:

1990: Buffalo at Giants, 17-13.  SBXXV:  Giants 20-19.
1986: Giants v Denver, 19-16.  SBXXI: Giants 39-20.
1985: Chicago v New England, 20-7.  SBXX: Chicago 46-10.
1983: Washington v Raiders, 37-35.  SBXVIII: Los Angeles 38-9.
1981: San Francisco at Cincinnati, 21-3.  SBXVI: SF 26-21.
1980: Philadelphia v Oakland, 10-7.  SBXV: Oakland 27-10.

As for NFC championship games:

1991: Washington v Detroit, 45-0.  Title game: Washington 41-10.
1990: San Fran v Giants, 7-3.  Title game: Giants 15-13 (at SF).
1989: Rams at SF, 13-12; SF at Rams, 30-27.  Title game: SF 30-3.
1988: Chicago v SF, 10-9.  Title game: SF 28-3 (at Chicago).
1987: Washington at Minnesota, 27-24 in OT.  Title game: Wash 17-10.
1986: Giants v Washington, 27-20; at Washington, 24-14.  Title game: NYG 17-0.
1982: Dallas at Washington, 24-10.  Title game: Washington 31-17.
1981: Niners v Dallas, 45-14.  Title game: Niners 28-27.
1980: Philadelphia v Dallas, 17-10; Dal at Phil, 35-27.  Title: Phil 20-7.

And the AFC:

1990: Buffalo v raiders, 38-24.  Title game: Buffalo 51-3.
1989: Cleveland v Denver, 16-13.  Title game: Denver 37-21.
1988: Cincinnati v Buffalo, 35-21.  Title game: Cinci 21-10.
1985: New Eng v Miami, 17-13, Mia v NE, 30-27.  Title game: NE 31-14 (at Mia)
1984: Miami at Pittsburgh 31-7.  Title game: Miami 45-28.
1983: Seattle v Raiders, 38-26; at Raiders, 34-21.  Title game: LA 30-14.
1982: Miami at Jets, 45-28; v Jets, 20-19.  Title game: Miami 14-0.
1981: Cincinnati at San Diego, 40-17.  Title game: Cinci 27-7.
1980: SD v Oak, 30-24 (ot); Oak v SD, 38-24.  Title: Oak 34-27 (at SD).
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: scott@ods.com (Scott Harper)
Subject: Re: Koontz Computer Predictions
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:15:57 GMT

ckoontz@aud.alcatel.com wrote:
: With all of the upsets, I would like to see someone else who could
: have gone 7-7 this week.

Let's get this straight....  Do you count a "victory" for you if the
team you picked to win covers the Las Vegas line, or do your winners
have to cover the point spread you predict?  I think the reason most
people (including myself) have been ragging on you is that the final
scores you have been predicting are outrageous.  Now, the Las Vegas
line is purposely made to be as close as possible.  7-7 is just fine
with the casinos -- they still get your 10% juice!
-- 
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scott@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
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From: spl2@po.cwru.edu (Sam Lubchansky)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: rules - tackle eligible
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:28:44 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b61644.student.cwru.edu

In article <kowalski.722185801@clouso> kowalski@crim.ca (Allan Kowalski) writes:
>From: kowalski@crim.ca (Allan Kowalski)
>Subject: rules - tackle eligible
>Date: 19 Nov 92 15:10:01 GMT
>at the cost of exposing some of my football ignorance exactly
>what does it mean when a team, before a particular play,
>declares a tackle as eligible. I know they refer
>to his being eligible to catch a pass but why do they have to declare
>it. Isn't it automatic if there is no wr or TE on his side
>
>??????????????????????????????????????/
>
>agk

There is a rule concerning "fooling" the other team that says you have to 
make it known that the tackle is eligible.  If it is not stated, the 
referees - seeing a uniform # in the 50's - will immediately call an 
illegal formation.  Why? Who knows.  It should be automatic.



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From: kday@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kevin Day)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Okoye again???
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:30:11 GMT
Reply-To: kday@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kevin Day)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


  Well, for the last 2 weeks I haven't started Okoye on my fantasy team
because the general feeling was that Word would be back and hence, Okoye
would see little playing time. He still only had 8 rushes this past
week but he scored 2 TD's. Without Word in there, Okoye's getting the
ball down near the goal line.
  What's the guess for this week? Okoye or Word? Take a shot at it!!!

K. Scott Day   (kday@oasys.dt.navy.mil)
Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center
Code 1252
Bethesda, Maryland 20084-5000

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: chrisc@cae.wisc.edu (Chris Carey)
Subject: Re: Eagle fan commits suicide (Re: 'Gang Green')
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin--Madison
Date: 21 Nov 92 16:36:58 CST

Didn't they do it in '63 also?  I though they won three in a row, lost one
year, and then won three in a row again.

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From: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Subject: Re: When is the Superbowl?
Originator: delarocq@c00522-118rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:37:09 GMT




  Super Bowl: January 31, 1993.

  
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1988,1989,1990,1991 AFC East Division Champions
1991,1992 AFC Conference Champions

Hungry for some fish.. Monday Night Football, November 16, 1992..

If you are a Buffalo Bills fan, email me at delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu
so we can talk all about the games, insight, etc.
If you are a Packers fan, let me know. I am interested in any news
out of Green Bay...
A PROUD MEMBER OF THE BILLS COALITION TAKING THE BET II.
From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: STEELERS VS. LIONS - WHAT HAPPENED???
Date: 18 Nov 1992 21:48:43 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

In article <92322.1026533ZASIB3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>, Robert Newby <3ZASIB3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:
>Frankly both teams were lousy and John Robinson who covered the game for CBS
>said so throughout the game.  I heard the 3rd quarter (did not see it) which
>seemed to be the best for the Lions.  Don't be so impressed by the stats,
>they were more the result  of some big plays rather than consistency.

As an added comment I say that John Robinson is lousy
himself. Thank God that he doesn't come so often
in my area games(Mke).


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