From: yiannis@BINKLEY.CS.MCGILL.CA (Ioannis REKLEITIS)
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Subject: Re: peri paidias
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:31:58 GMT
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              SAVOPULOS" at Nov 5, 92 06:00:00 pm

>
> Na Qumisw prwta oti o megaluteros fasismos eivai va petaei kaveis etiketes
> "fasistas", "koumouvistns" klp ektos kai av to proswpo opou avaferovtai
 dnlwvei
> oti eivai fasistas n koumouvistns n oti allo... QumnQeite to Mcarthy stnv
> Amerikn pou katngorouse opoiov dev pngaive ws koumouvistn, n kati nliQeious
> stnv Ellada pou otav dev exouv va brouv kati to sugkekrimevo gia evav politiko
> tous avtipalo tov apokallouv fasista...(O xaraktnrismos nliQeioi avaferetai
>  gevika se politika proswpa kai oxi se kapoiov sugkekrimeva)

Genika mporei na isxuei auto pou les alla apo kei kai pera
nomizw oti mporw na krinw an kapoia pragmata odeigoun ston
ekfasismo ths dhmosias zwhs kai o Marinos einai ena apo auta
kata thn apopsh mou.



>
>  Twra sxetika me tnv paideia orismeva apla pragmata... Prwta apo ola ta
> pragmata eivai sxetika kala kai dev prepei va uparxei megaln diafwvia se auto.
> Ejallou osoi apo mas teleiwsav ekei jerouv kalutera....To Qema eivai pws Qa
Wraio to uponooumeno alla ekei teleiwsa kai kserw arketa kala...


> givei kalutern... Dustuxws opoios kaivourgios vomos kai va erQei apo
> opoiovdhpote akoma kai av eivai o kaluteros Qa avtimetwphsei megales
> avtidraseis...
>
> O vomos 1268 tou Pasok stnv epoxn tou eixe avtimetwpisei Quelwdn
> avtidrasn apo oles tis paratajeis ws akatallnlos kai katastrofikos gia tnv
> paideia... Snmera dev jerw ama telika ntav evas kalos vomos, pavtos
> katastrofikos gia tnv paidia dev vomizw va ntav.Ta idia legave kai gia
> tov prongoumevo vomo tns ND.
>
Genika prospatheis na mas peiseis oti kathws exoume mia
xeirotewreush pros ta pisw auto akurwnei ta asxhma twn
prohgoumenwn nomwn????
Omologw oti autes oi genikeuseis oloi oi nomoi exoun antidraseis
ara den lene tipota oi antidraseis den lene kai tipota epi ths
ousias.



O twrivos vomos pisteuw
> erxetai apla va eksugxrovisei orismeva pragmata mia kai oi kairoi allajav
> arketa apo tote, kai me tnv seira tou avtimetwpizei megaln avtidrasn... Autn
> pisteuw ofeiletai stous gvwstous foitntopateres kaQe fora pou yaxvouv va brouv
> eukairies gia katalnyeis kai apoxes...
Kala afou to problhma einai oi foithto pateres (alhtheia mhteres
uparxoun ;-)) ) giati oi foithtes den pshfizoun alliws???
Ligh sobarothta giati tetoia mazikothta stis foithtikes
suneleushs ta duo-tria teleutaia xronia eixame xronia na doume.


> Gevika pisteuw oti eivai megalutern mastiga gia tnv paideia oi
> suvexeis katalnyeis kai apoxes para evas metrios vomos....
Klap Klap Klap
tha mporousa na prosthesw oi tempelhdes foithtes dhmosioi
upalhloi, oi tourkoi oi martures tou iaxwba A! nai kai oi
ebraioi bebaiws...

Ma kala twra exeis paei na kaneis mathima sto fusikio na deis
thn gluka na mhn uparxoun aithouses Exeis dwsei eksetaseis sthn
estia se aithousa pou stazei!!! Oi katalhpseis kai oi apoxes
ftaine!


>Ejallou Qewrw tous vomous stous opoious basizetai n paideia ws
> metrious vomous, giati kai va exei kaveis diaQesn va ferei evav vomo pou Qa
> allajei polla apo ta kakws keimeva, dev mporei... Jexvate oti n avtidrasn stnv
> paideia exei rijei upourgo kai sugkekrimeva tov Kovtogiavopoulo, evw kaveis
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O Kontogianopoulos epese otan ta prwtopalikara ths ONNED
dolofonhsan ton Temponera, twra tugxanoun polu kalhs
uperaspishs gia to "filokubernhtiko" tous ergo!!!

> allos upourgos se allous tomeis dev avtimetwpise tetoia problnmata...
> Pisteuw apla oti gevika uparxei n tasn stous vomous peri paideias va uparxei
> megaln avtidrasn xwris logo, giati oi foitntes eivai eukola Qumata dustuxws
 twv
> diaforwv epiteidiwv kai kairoskopwv pou apoblepouv se prwsopika n politika n
> suvtexviaka ofeln...
>
Bebaia oi suntexnies ftaine panta ;-))




> Auta pros to parov
>
> Mixalns Sabbopoulos
>
> O PALIOS
>
> "O PALIOS EINAI ALLIWS!!!!"
Alla o neos einai wraios ;-))

Yiannis
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