HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: boesch@cs.washington.edu (Eric Boesch)
Subject: No, thank _you_, can I lick your boots now?  (was Re: Thanks all)
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering Dept., Univ. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 01:49:27 GMT

ma_blase@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Fox) writes:
>Thanks all for a most amusing group.  I think I may
>hang out here a bit more often now.  I haven't giggled so
>much in ages.

Aren't we just _so_ cute, though?  Don't you want to just take us home
and cuddle us and feed us and give us a nice little cage and watch us
try to choke ourselves between the bars of the little hamster wheel?

Hey, no problem, we're here to amuse you.  And we know you're not
really laughing at us, you're laughing with us, at us.  You know,
laugh at yourself, and the whole world laughs with you, cry and they
laugh at you anyway.  Besides, if you can't laugh at yourself -- I
mean really laugh -- I mean laugh until your lungs are about to
collapse -- well I'm not sure but you get the idea.

Insult us and you make our day -- don't you know we crave the
attention of real people?  Maybe you could flirt with the women, well,
girls, they know they're not good enough to deserve to be called
women, anyway, it would be the high point of their lives.  Hell, flirt
with the men, with me, I'd swoon, it's such a simple gesture, it would
take no time at all, can't you spend a moment to become the one bright
spot in this miserable wasted life?

Obsequiously yours,
well, no one really,
I don't even deserve to have a name,
it's not important.
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: llama@tramp.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: ennui?
Date: 8 Jan 93 04:32:59 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


i don't want to do anything. nothing at all. 

i have interesting email from cool people but i don't want to
answer it.

reading news feels like too much trouble.

i have a massive project occupying every corner of my brain and i
don't feel like working on it.

there's a free show by a band i like a few blocks away but i don't
feel like going there.

i'm not sleepy.

i don't want to go home.

i don't want to stay here.

i wish i had a place for times like this when i just want to crawl
inside somewhere and kinda zone for a few hours. i don't feel
suicidal.  i just want to detach. getting drunk would probably fix
the feeling, but i don't want the calories.

--
sine | deb
who wishes her mind had an on-off switch
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: mark@csi.com (Mark Kaplan)
Subject: Re: My New Year's Eve
Organization: Comdisco Systems Inc., Foster City, CA
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:03:04 GMT

In article <XIBO.93Jan1093305@fido.fido.econ.arizona.edu> xibo@fido.econ.arizona.edu (Mr. Coates) writes:
>
>	So, I woke up around 8pm, showered and dressed up in my nice
>clothes, dressed to kill, so to speak. 
>
>	I got in my spiffy MR2 and drove off to a college bar called the
>Wildcat House 
>
>	There were a few really hot babes; major cleavage exposure, even one
>chick dressed in black leather and black lipstick.  I almost walked up to
>her and said, "y0 babe, this ain't the right club for us.  Lemme take you
>to a real club..." but I didn't. 
>
>	Oh, she was delightful to kiss.  She was really into it, and even
>more wasted than I was.  As she humped my leg, I squeezed her ass, felt
>up her chest... all while we were up on that silly 3' platform, in full
>view of everyone.  I just didn't care, I was enjoying it too much.
>
>	About fifteen minutes later, we collapsed on the platform, still
>kissing madly, when the calls of "get a room" and "go to a motel" started.
>
>Xibo

Hey Bub, I don't think you understand what this group is all about.  It
definitely is not for bragging about your fancy sports cars and all the hot
"babes" you have scored with.  Why don't you go back to your fraternity and
all your sorority chicks and leave us alone.

- mark
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: dante@microsoft.com (throated plaid)
Subject: Re: Why I'm such a shit
Date: 04 Jan 93 07:43:33 GMT
Organization: the velvet sweatshop
Distribution: world 

In article <1993Jan02.052841.8039@acme.gen.nz> kilroy@acme.gen.nz writes:
|I've been reading alt.angst for quite a long time as well. At least since
|Xibo's trip to Boston and New York (whenever the hell that was - I remember
|the article, but it could have been anywhere from 12 to 24 months back). And I
|liked it for much of the same reasons you express. You see, in some way you're
|right. alt.angst should be about The Void, the total meaningless of existance.
|And it has been in the past and probably will be again. But I think it's also
|about relationship angst as well, to me that too is Angst and should be
|Allowed (and you may have noticed more than a hint of RelationshipAngst in one
|or two of the Great Xibo's articles from time to time).

You mean there's a difference between Relationship Angst and The 
Total Meaningless[sic] of existence? They seem like one and
the same to me.
From: thespian@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Stephanie M. Clarkson)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: more depression
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 02:51:41 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: darkpark

callahan@biffvm.cs.jhu.edu (Paul Callahan) writes:

> callahan@biffvm.cs.jhu.edu (Paul Callahan) writes:
> 
> >I'm really very non-suicidal.  Sometimes people think I might suicidal be wh
>                                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^ 
> This, by the way, is not horribly stilted prose, but the sort of typo that on
> became possible with the introduction of modern technology--just in case
> anyone wonders.  Please transpose the words.
> 
 
S'okay....we just thought you were doing your Yoda imitation :-)
 
 

Stephanie...
 
    Stephanie M. Clarkson : thespian@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca         
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
         A whole new world; A hundred thousand things to see,
         I'm like a shooting star, I've come so far
         I can't go back to where I used to be.   
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  ~~~~~~~~~ please do not send me files over 30k...fnord. ~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: eradm@wbst845e.xerox.com (Erik Radmall)
Subject: Nice Guys Finish Last (was Re: General Theories of Depression)
Reply-To: eradm@wbst845e.xerox.com
Organization: Xerox Corporation
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:23:42 GMT

In article 9941@leland.Stanford.EDU, tullfan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Richard Thompson) writes:
[stuff deleted]
> one thread that caught my interest: the reason nice guys often finish last is
> because something about this society makes alot of women not comfortable in 
> a relationship unless there is some degree of emotional or even physical 
> abuse.  I know this to be true of women I've dated.  Something about nurturing
> and loving didn't appeal--maybe its the desire to have a macho destructive 
> male (after all that is the male image that is appreciated in our society).

A study done with puppies to determine how they would bond to their
masters had a not-too-surprising result.

Three control groups of puppies, isolated from one another:
Group 1 was basically ignored (i.e. given very little attention).
Group 2 was smothered with attention.
Group 3 was given some attention, but erratically left alone, and
sometimes treated badly, for no apparent reason.

Group 3 showed the highest degree of bonding to their masters.

I'm changing my strategy. No more Mr. Nice Guy.

---
Erik Radmall -- eradm.roch803@xerox.com (yeah, that's a valid xns address)
From: llama@tramp.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: you win some, you lose some (kinda long)
Date: 6 Jan 93 04:30:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Paul Callahan (callahan@biffvm.cs.jhu.edu) wrote:

: Actually, the people on a.r.c sorta remind me of hamsters.

then i understand why gerbils are the rodents people choose to have
sex with.

--
sine | deb
a little gratuitous a.r.c.-bashing rounds out the day, y'know...

Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: lskrbnek@unix1.tcd.ie (loose)
Subject: Re: General Theory of Depression
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:37:20 GMT


>        Never believe an experiment until it is confirmed by theory 

Or never believe a rumour until officially denied
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:04:32 EST
From: <JRUNNE@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject:    Inaugural Angst

Hey, all.  Let me tell you MY gripe.  I just got screwed over not ONE, but
TWO opportunities to engage in inaugural festivities down here in DC.

First, a so called "friend" of mine from Arkansas and I had entered into a
sort of deal whereby if one of us got tix for an event, we'd ask the other.
Turns out he's going to this super-special thang for folks from Arkansas--
gets to hang with the Clintons and everything.  Does he stick to his word?
NOOO---OOO.  Rather, he asks his housemate, probably in some last-ditch effort
to impress her (even tho she seems (by his own description) to be most
uninterested).  Then again, this IS the man who offered to pick this woman
his best friend was sleeping with up from the airport, and spent a load renting
her favorite sports car, in an "effort" to "impress her away from him."  ACK!!
Hey, with friends like that who needs the Post Office and other public services
to be unreliable??

On the other hand, I may yet get 2 tix of standing room for the inaugural
ceremony, which he <<can't>> get, which I can at least hold over his head for
a while before asking someone else.

Then there's the lottery for White House Open House Tix.  I had given my pal
the address, etc.  and the deal was we'd both flood the office with postcards,
and again, if we won, we'd go toghether (ps this is a different guy than above)
.  To make a long story short, I was going to give him more postcards last nite
when he informed me that if he won he was taking his brother (who was also
trying for tix) instead.  He was bringing HIS girlfriend to town, also.  So,
he had the nerve to suggest that if he got tix, could I hang out with his bro's
girlfriend?  Oh, they'd give me negatives of pix they took and everything.
Well, I blew up at him and it escalated rapidly.  I know this may sound
like a huge example of counting chickens before they hatch, but this guy has
pulled shit like this before.  When I told him that I wouldn't be joining them
in other activities if they went, he yelled at ME "for letting the park service
decide if he was on my shit list or not."  He couldn't seem to understand that
I was reacting not to his potential luck but to his actions.  And he really
thinks I'm still gonna tourguide his bro's girlfriend.  Yeah.  Freeze my
ass off in the standing room at the inaugural parade (didn't get seats for
THAT either) with some guy who dicked me over and his brother and his girlfrien
d.  Some fucking friends.  Next time remind me to write up a contract before
giving him anything more than the time of day.

Thanks for listening, angstful Americans!!

--JLR
From: llama@tramp.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: The eternal questions...
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:54:47 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


 rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins) wrote:

: wow, do you feel like that too? the thing is, i actually DO come down with
: the flu, or a migraine, or whatever when i have a blind date. i have one 

actually, i might have had more fun with the flu. i mean, at least
then i would have had something interesting to do, like wheeze and
cough and shiver a lot. logic would dictate that someone you'd spent
two hours talking with on the phone would *have* to be interesting,
no? logic didn't anticipate that said someone would basically want to
have the same conversation all over again.

i think when he calls again, i'll decline. even though he fed me draft
guiness.

: sine, let's just move in together and 
: forget the whole thing.

works for me, but you'll have to come here. i'm allergic to deserts. 
and we'll have to spray man-be-gone around the perimeter of the yard...

: >who, me? nervous? feeling impending doom?
:
: heh. doomed as doomed could be.

hey, at least this time datefailure wasn't my fault. i even stayed
awake while he was talking...

-- 
sine | deb
can i have angst over not having angst over not having a
relationship? [insert obvoid reference here, for balance]
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Sexual Angst
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:19:12 GMT
Organization: st. alfonso's pancake breakfast

In article <C0HwCu.97r@boi.hp.com> adye@mail.boi.hp.com (Alan Dye) writes:
>
>I recently aquired a new roommate.  He and I went to college together, and
>upon his recent (Dec, 92) graduation, he moved in to my apartment.  
>
>Last night, Scott (roommate) and I were discussing his significant other.
>He indicated that he had a distinct preference for multiple occurences of
>coitus in the course of an evening.  When I say multiple, I mean MULTIPLE!
>He went so far as to say that, "a woman feels quite lucky if she can get
>it many times in an evening."

[snip]

>I've always felt that the 'objective' of intimate interaction is to see
>that your partner is completely, and unquestionably, brought to intense
>fulfillment.  My experience has been that this requires detailed attention
>to parts other than strict genitalia.  This would include eyelids, neck, 
>shoulders, breasts or chest, navel, thighs, feet, etc...  Touch, kissing,
>etc...  Lots of time...  Quality, not quantity.  One exaustive occurence 
>that lasts a couple of hours is preferable to multiple 'quickies.'
>
>
>I invite your affirmation or condemnation.


simple. your roommate is full of shit, or has sex with a very unusual person.
quality is always better than quantity for a mature sexual being. perhaps 
pretending you're a high school stud and trying to mate like crazed weasels
is ok for a one-night-stand, but that's all it's likely to be if he keeps 
his method. so don't sweat it. i'm not saying multiple times is undesirable,
just that quality should not be sacrificed for quantity. and i know that just
about all my female friends feel this way also. (the ones i don't know about
haven't told me). there. any help?

bah.
--
		    -just give me what for,
	rachel perkins =  rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu
      coed naked internet grep! always keep your link up!
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Diet Coke Angst (was Re: New Year's)
Date: 11 Jan 93 11:56:18 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <1993Jan11.053500.20646@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> toj8j@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (prufrock) writes:

>Quick RumorAngst...  Various scurrilous sources suggest that Diet Coke may
>lead to sterility in males.

Diet Pepsi has less caffeine and tastes better anyway

        Never believe an experiment until it is confirmed by theory 
    Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England    (44|0)61-275-6033
From: llama@tramp.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: more depression
Date: 6 Jan 93 06:09:14 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Paul Callahan (callahan@biffvm.cs.jhu.edu) wrote:

: In it's own way, that experience was an epiphany: more than a little 
: life-affirming, in a sick way, but not something I'd ever go through 
: voluntarily.

you know, that sentence aptly describes 90% of the things in my past
that shaped the parts of me i like most.

about being suicidal: it still startles me sometimes when i'm really
upset about something to realize that i don't feel like killing myself
anymore. it's like i'm not quite sure exactly what i should be doing if
not toying with te notion of reacing for pills...

--
sine | deb
"he opened up his eyes and he snapped out of the groove; saw both sides
of everything and found he could not move... they asked him was it alcohol
he said 'nothing of the kind. just life' " -- james mcmurtry
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu (have clue, will travel)
Subject: Re: you win some, you lose some (kinda long)
Reply-To: jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: The Ghost Of Christmas Past Society
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:38:11 GMT


hammett@sbsu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Tim Hammett) writes:
>I've also noticed that admitting to being a Computer Programmer tends to kill
>conversations. I've often thought about lying about my profession, but
>I've never been able to think up a suitably socially acceptable profession
>that I could lie convincingly about.

Simplicity itself.

Tell 'em you're an author, who just happens to use the computer you write 
with in other ways that pay the bills.

And please don't say "But what do I say that I write about?"  EVERYONE--no
matter HOW boring, socially comatose or introverted--has a story to tell
about their life, whether it's about personal experiences or about interesting
people you've met/places you've been/events you've lived through.  Just let
the words flow out--you may be surprised.

Not only that, but writing ALSO forces you to put your inherent creativity
into action, and the benefits of THAT include broadening conversational skill,
which may keep conversations alive even after you admit that you make a living
staring at a glowing box that goes "beep".

				---jeff c., aspiring journalist and hacker.

--
     jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu      \\              To KLH:
 "I don't know where you took   --=--      Love ya, Katya!
 me, but I didn't want to leave."   \\  have clue, will travel.
       ---------------------------------------------------
From: Thad_Engeling@quickmail.natinst.com (Thad Engeling)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Books & MY New Year's
Date: 7 Jan 1993 12:05:36 GMT
Organization: National Instruments
NNTP-Posting-Host: trinity.natinst.com

In article <9020@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU>, hagop@edison.seas.ucla.edu (Hagop D. Janoyan) writes:
> I also don't believe in the "you will eventually find someone special 
> someday," which I've noticed mentioned many times in this newsgroup.  
> I think it's pure bullshit.

Damn, you had me going there for awhile.
Oh well, back to reality.
-Thad
From: markp@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Mark A. Pitcher)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: General Theory of Depression
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 00:43:49 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: darkpark

pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe) writes:

> > ObAngst: Every woman I've ever had more than a superficial 
> > conversation with has related a tale of sexual abuse and/or
> > rape. I think the statistic "one in three women" is, unfortunately,
> > too low. Another "image appreciated in our society" would appear
> > to be that women are punching bags.
> > 
> 
>  Right on! I thought that *I* was the only one to notice this, and I 
> never know how to react. I mean, such a "confession" has so god damn many 
> aspects...on the one hand, they're giving you a sign of trust by telling 
> you something painful and private, but on the other hand, there always 
> seems to be some psychological undercurrent which I can never quite 
> grasp. Almost...I dunno...like they take some kind of perverse pleasure 
> out of showing their scars. Or are trying to let you know that they're 
> strong enough to get past something like that. Or testing to see how you 
> react to such a horror story. Or something.
>
> marlowe


	Actually, I've seen that some women make up sexual abuse
stories to get sympathy. After all, how can we _not_ believe
them? One girl I knew ALWAYS had an abuse story about a
previous boyfriend -- fortunately I knew the boyfriends and her
enough to know the BS she spewed. 

	Another girl I know called every _bad_ sexual experience
a "rape". If she didn't enjoy sex -- she was raped. 

	I question anyone with such a story, which is too bad
because obviously some people have serious problems.



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Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: mission@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Joerg Riemer)
Subject: Re: more depression
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:29:49 GMT

callahan@biffvm.cs.jhu.edu (Paul Callahan) writes:

>boesch@cs.washington.edu (Eric Boesch) writes:
>
>>Thad_Engeling@quickmail.natinst.com (Thad Engeling) writes:
>>>Sometimes I wish I were dead, but that happens to everyone.
>
>>No it doesn't.  I heard some statistic that like 20% of people in the
>>US often think of suicide.  
>
>I'm really very non-suicidal.  Sometimes people think I might suicidal be when 
>I tell them morbid thoughts I have while looking at pieces of broken glass on the
>sidewalk, or watching barbed wire go by from a car, thinking what it would be
>like if my neck were placed against the wire at that speed.
>
>But I've pretty much concluded that what I am experiencing at these moments is 
>more of an excessive instinct to *preserve* my life.  Last summer some kids 
>pulled a gun on me (said they had one, anyhow, and there were about ten of them 
>so it didn't really matter).  The next day, the thought that kept going through 
>my head was "I like me.  I'm glad to be alive."  Also, I felt extremely 
>insulted.  They would have killed me over eighteen lousy bucks and some cards 
>they'd never get a chance to use.  I felt that if they weren't so stupid, they'd
>have realized that I was worth more than what they could have obtained by 
>killing me.  The worst thing about it is it was just an outing for them.  Split 
>the money between them all, and they'd each get exactly nothing (if you'll 
>pardon my sloppy arithmetic).
>
>In it's own way, that experience was an epiphany: more than a little 
>life-affirming, in a sick way, but not something I'd ever go through 
>voluntarily.
>--
>"I would rather be torn to pieces by the poison-clawed cat, than to suffer one
>instant of acceptance by the resident intellectuals of rec.arts.books." 
>     [slightly modified; attribution left as an exercise to the reader]
>              -- Paul Callahan, callahan@biffvm.cs.jhu.edu --

against racism & facism
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: more depression
From: emiddlec@mora.gac.edu (Eric Middlecamp)
Date: 5 Jan 1993 23:27:33 GMT
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College
NNTP-Posting-Host: ancho.gac.edu

>Thad_Engeling@quickmail.natinst.com (Thad Engeling) writes:
>>>Sometimes I wish I were dead, but that happens to everyone.

>No it doesn't.  I heard some statistic that like 20% of people in the
>US often think of suicide.  

What a logically silly thing to say.
1) How frequently is "often?"
2) He didn't imply that everyone thinks of suicide "often."
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Monday, 11 Jan 1993 13:31:42 MST
From: <IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET>Jo (a ghost of her former self)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject:    Lost that (!?!?!?!!) Feeling

can't seem to shake a feeling of watching myself from some other place.
its as if i'm floating off above (to the left) watching things
from afar. like it's a bad videotape on someone else's snowy vcr.
everything is happening to some other person who looks remarkably
like me, but seems to have dark dark circles under her eyes and
a remarkable amount of gray hair starting to show lately.

who WAS that man kissing that redhead's cheek? what evil intent does he
have for her? and can i shout loud enuf for her to hear me??
Newsgroups: alt.angst