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From: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Changing names of the student body (poll)
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:32:55 GMT
Reply-To: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <MSALETNI.92Oct6091025@jade.tufts.edu> msaletni@jade.tufts.edu (Michael J. Saletnik) writes:
>I'd like to take an informal poll, if you don't mind.  How many people
>have seen their college or university, sometime in the last 4 years,
>change the title for new students from "Freshmen" to something else,
>such as "First Years" ?

Columbia made this change in 1989.  My class, the class of 1992, was the
last class to officially be "freshmen" when we entered.

>If so, was it due to public pressure, or the decision of one person
>made in silence over the summer?

It was due to a bunch of people with nothing better to do with their time
whining at the admins.

>What do you feel about this change?  Do you feel "Freshmen" is a
>derogatory term and "First Year" is not, or you feel that "Freshman"
>is a term that has been used for so long that it has lost that stigma?

It never had a stigma.  The word means "A student in the first year of
study."  Big deal.  What I find so pathetically ironic is that most of
the people I still hear calling thsmselves freshmen are women.

As for who actually *uses* the term "first year student," that's a different
story.  Certainly most of the freshmen don't.  The professors and longtime
admins don't.  Those involved with student government do (but no one listens
to them anyway).


--
Gabe Wiener - Columbia Univ.     "This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings 
gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu       to be seriously considered as a means of 
N2GPZ in ham radio circles        communication. The device is inherently of
72355,1226 on CI$                 no value to us." -Western Union memo, 1877
From: msaletni@jade.tufts.edu (Michael J. Saletnik)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Changing names of the student body (poll)
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:10:28 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

I'd like to take an informal poll, if you don't mind.  How many people
have seen their college or university, sometime in the last 4 years,
change the title for new students from "Freshmen" to something else,
such as "First Years" ?

If so, was it due to public pressure, or the decision of one person
made in silence over the summer?

What do you feel about this change?  Do you feel "Freshmen" is a
derogatory term and "First Year" is not, or you feel that "Freshman"
is a term that has been used for so long that it has lost that stigma?

I am open both to discussion on the news group, and compilation of
results sent to me via e-mail.

Thanks, I'm really curious to see how this turns out.  I haven't seen
any discussion along these lines in at least the month I've been
following this group, so I hope I'm not being redundant.
:-)
						Michael
--
Michael J. Saletnik, Tufts University E'91 G'93  / I reserve the right
Department of Civil Engineering Computer Lab TA / to be utterly and
michael@binkley.ext.tufts.edu (daily uucp)     / completely wrong.
From: greenspan05@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Entrepreneurs Conference at Wharton
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:21:39 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania
			Proudly Presents

The 6th Annual  Mid-Atlantic Conference on Entrepreneurship

			November 14, 1992
			Univ. of Pennsylvania
			Philadelphia, PA

Featuring Keynote Speakers.............................

Orville & Gary Redenbacher	& 	Jim Koch
Founder & Grandson			President
Orville Redenbacher Popcorn		Boston Beer Company
					Samuel Adams Beer

along with 15 other top entrepreneurs from around the country!!!!

The Mid-Atlantic Conference is intended for the innovative individual who
strives to achieve his/her goals.  Last year more than 200 students and
business people from several states and universities gathered to learn from the
experiences of successful entrepreneurs.  If you want more than you can get
from reading books, talking on networks, or going to class, the Mid-Atlantic
Conference is for you.  17 top entrepreneurs will speak on topics that pertain
directly to your business - from critical early stages of growth to national
and international expansion.  Whether an undergraduate or graduate college
student, business owner, or entrepreneur, this conference could be one of the
smartest business moves you make.  Make contacts, Network with the best and
brightest, and STRIVE FOR SUCCESS!!!!!

The following seminars will be offered this year:

Starting the Right Business		Franchising 101: A Crash Course
Getting your Foot in the Door		Advertising for Results: Choosing
	for New Business			the Right Medium
Hiring and Managing your Team		Raising Venture Capital
MArketing in the '90s			Negotiating to Win
The Tax Advantaged Entrepreneur		Acquiring a Small Business
New Opportunities in Int'l Trade	Going Global
Keeping One Step ahead of the 		Identifying, Managing, and Preparing
	Competition				for Growth
Managing your Finances

The full day conference starts at 9:00am and ends at 4:45 pm with registration
from 8:00am until 9:00am.  The event includes continental breakfast, buffet
lunch, and all conference materials.  Conference Registration is $75.00 ($60.00
early bird before November 7, 1992) Full-time student registration is $25.00
with valid photocopy of student identification.  To receive a brochure(s) or if
you have any questions, reply via vax or telephone (215) 573-7917, Howard
Greenspan, or (215) 386-6129, Paul Horrock, Conference Directors.

Student leaders, Club Presidents, and College Professors:  If you would like
your group, class, or organization to take part in this exciting event, please
contact us and we can send out multiple brochures and information packets. 
Requests can be made by phone, vax, or through the mail at
			Mid-Atlantic Conference
			Snider Entrepreneurial Center
			4th Floor - Vance Hall
			3733 Spruce Street
			Philadelphia,  PA  19104
From: ai26500@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (GoodFriendsRHard2Find )
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: U of I at Chicago (Circle)
Summary: server name??
Keywords: what be sever name??
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:01:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvAsME.J74
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Yeallo!!
	I was za wonderin' if anyone out there know the name of the servers
at University of Illinois Chicago Campus (Circle campus) prefferably a 
Unix base machine.:) if not CMS.
	thanks for your attention
	
	ranma
Newsgroups: soc.college,alt.censorship,comp.org.eff.talk,comp.admin.policy,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
From: mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin)
Subject: Re: What is "banning" anyway?
Originator: mnemonic@eff.org
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:12:44 GMT

In article <BETSYS.92Oct1171720@ra.cs.umb.edu> betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz) writes:
>My Random House defines it as to "prohibit, forbid or bar; interdict"
>I claim that is NOT what we are doing!
>  Saying "you may post this material anywhere except for this one
>place" is a far cry from prohibiting or forbidding the material!

On the contrary, Betsy, American Constitutional jurisprudence is full of
cases in which regulation of expression based on content was considered to
be censorship.

The issue is not whether you are "banning" the material altogehter, but
whether you are banning it from their .plan files. 

>  The reason I am pushing this is that I feel we are a site which is
>deeply and fundamentally supportive of open access and free speech. It
>hurts to see us listed on the same list as folks who are denying
>newsgroup access, shutting off users, and other serious measures. 

If you are deeply supportive of free speech, how can you justify a system
policy that seems to be grounded in your personal opposition to seeing
offensive stuff appear on your screen when you run finger?

>   I don't see what's wrong with asking that one particular system
>utility, finger, be kept clear of obscene messages ....

But you seem to define "obscene" far more broadly than any government body
is allowed to do under the U.S. Constitution. For example, you seem to
think that all sexual material is obscene.


--Mike



-- 
Mike Godwin,    |"The meeting of two personalities is like the contact 
mnemonic@eff.org| of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, 
(617) 864-0665  | both are transformed."
EFF, Cambridge  |                           --Carl Jung
From: cb705@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason K. Green)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: University of Missouri-Columbia : e-mail
Date: 26 Sep 1992 21:12:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cb705@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason K. Green)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I've been trying to track down a couple of e-mail addresses at the
 University of Missouri-Columbia (UMC) (mizzou1.missouri.edu)
They won't let you finger, netfind doesn't give you anything, and 
the postmaster won't answer me.  Any ideas as to where I can get information?


-- 
Jason K. Green
cb705@cleveland.freenet.edu - Cleveland Freenet
jkg4286@hobbes.NebrWesleyan.edu - Nebraska Wesleyan University
From: lchavas@CSD4.CSD.UWM.EDU (Linda Catherine Havas)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: College Boredom (was: Flame Wars)
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:57:20 GMT

Someone recently said college is boring. How could that be when you've
got such terrific things as:
- professors who couldn't hold a person's interest even if they were
  bound and shackled to a seat in an otherwise empty lecture hall

  textbooks which read like the operation manual for a B-17 bomber

  the never-ending excitement of doodling in the margins of your
  notebooks (there are only so many geometric shapes to draw)

  trying to discover just *what* the food service people are 
  attempting to hide in that ever-present beige gravy

  All this and the Net too? How could you *not* be excited??

  (facetious smiles)

  Linda Havas  ---------------------> lchavas@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
From: cs177wbn@a4337-1.ucsd.edu (Mark Rotenberg)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Electronic information...
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:20:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, San Diego

U.C. San Diego has "Infopath", an electronic information system
operated by the library, which has an impressive amount of electronic
information available through telnet.  Be sure to check out the
experimental mode.

telnet infopath.ucsd.edu
login: infopath
(no password)

							Mark Rotenberg
							mrote@ucsd.edu
From: an725@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul L. Fortman, Jr.)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Electronic information...
Date: 2 Oct 1992 16:26:37 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: an725@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul L. Fortman, Jr.)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Do any other universities have an information server to
telnet to.  The one at Purdue (ssinfo) is the only one I
know of.  

Thanks.

Paul
-- 
fortmapl@dayton.bitnet
fortmapl@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman)
Subject: Re: SURVEY: Intervisitation Policy at YOUR school?
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: na
Date:  4 Oct 92 07:00:57 GMT

mwolinsk@nmsu.edu (SKIman) writes:

>Okay, I've received several replies to my question of what your school  
>intervisitation policy was.  But I've also received many questions asking me  
>what an intervisitation is.  So let me clarify.

>Intervisitation basically states "visit" hours.  For instance (I'm a male), so  
>I can have a female in my room from 8a.m. till Midnight Sun-Thurs and from  
>8a.m. till 3a.m. Fri-Sat.

>Again, thanks for all of your help.  (Reply via E-Mail please)

(this is going via e-mail too) Wow.  I thought that sort of thing was
a thing of the past at most schools.  At most of the schools I know
of, (although I can only speak for sure for here), coed dorms are the
norm and there is no such thing as an "intervisitation policy".
I can have anyone in my room at any time.

How, by the way, do they enforce these rules?

Adam Elman
aelman@cs.stanford.edu
From: infante@acpub.duke.edu (Andrew  Infante)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: Re: Grad school - FAF form?
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:04:17 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

Hear, Hear!

count me in too...

also - does anyone out there currently have a coop position as a grad student?
My undergrad school did not offer coops and I wonder what goes on
to become part of the program...

i.e.  does a professor recommend you to a company, or do you do the 
searching yourself and then come back to the school to see if they'll
allow the coop, etc.

thanks.
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: charles@leland.Stanford.EDU (Charles Benjamin Roosen)
Subject: Re: Gripes
Followup-To: alt.best.of.internet
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 16:14:30 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.030115.13649@news.vanderbilt.edu>, cctimar@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu (Cary Timar) writes:
|> Tammy C. writes, in article <92273.021311U15188@uicvm.uic.edu> U15188@uicvm.uic.edu:
|> >
|> >   Not having a boyfriend
|> 
|> Brian Hall responds, in article <1992Sep29.170755.4381@en.ecn.purdue.edu> bdhall@en.ecn.purdue.edu:
|> > 
|> > I need a girlfriend...  What are you doing this weekend? :) :) :)
|> 
|> I think this solves that problem, although they are a little too near to
|> one another, geographically.  It takes much less effort to have a
|> boyfriend/girlfriend that you've never met and never will meet.
|> 
|> If all the single grad students just pair off with someone in a
|> sufficiently distant place, they'll no longer need to worry about not
|> having a boyfriend or girlfriend, while having one places no extra
|> demands on them.
|> --
|> 	-- Cary Timar, Mathematics Department, Vanderbilt University
From: bdest+@pitt.edu (Benoit Desjardins)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: information request: biomathematics / mathematical biology
Date: 6 Oct 92 05:10:58 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


I would like to know what are the good research centers (for
graduate training and postdocs) in biomathematics (mathematical
biology).  Can someone provide me with this information? Also, does
anyone know about the research activities of Oxford's Center for
Mathematical Biology?

                                       Thank you

                                       B. Desjardins
                                       benoit@med.pitt.edu

P.S. Please reply to "benoit@med.pitt.edu"
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: NZer seeks UHawaii MBA info
From: imd@otago.ac.nz
Date: 3 Oct 92 11:37:45 +1300
Reply-To: imd@otago.ac.nz
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

I'm planning to apply for the MBA programme at the University of Hawaii,
starting in August 1993. 

Since I live in New Zealand, I would be interested in hearing from anyone
currently studying in Hawaii or with recent experience of that University and
its teaching programmes. I'm alos particularly interested in comments about the
standard and cost of living in Hawaii. As you might imagine, being from a
completely different country, I have little idea about what is a reasonable
amount of money to live on in a US state.

I'd bey very grateful to hear from anyone who has the time to share their
thoughts and experiences. My email address is imd@otago.ac.nz.

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Thanks,
Ian Douthwaite
Manager, Information Services
University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand
From: a_rosati@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo,alt.grad-student.tenured
Subject: Re: H.R. 4418 : Letter Writing Campaign
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:21:46 -0400
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

In article <EIVERSON.92Sep27133030@ithaka.nmsu.edu>, eiverson@nmsu.edu (Eric Iverson) writes:
> 
> The letter makes use of the term "scholarship."  Does this include
> conventional financial aid like ta-ships and ra-ships or is it limited
> to aid with no work commitment attached?  If I sound clueless about
> this, I am.  I usually just bundle everything up and let my dad sort
> it out.
> 

Yes... it only applies to aid with no work commitment attached. 
However, NAGPS feels it is but the first step to a return of the tax 
exempt status of all graduate student aid, such as TA- and RA- ships.

Tony :>

*-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-*
| Anthony V. Rosati              |                                |
| Department of Chemistry,       | "A nation that cannot think,   |
| Georgetown University          |  cannot survive."              |
| Washington, D.C. 20057-2222    |                                |
| A_ROSATI@GUVAX.BITNET          |          - Norman Mailer, 1992 |
| A_ROSATI@GUVAX.GEORGETOWN.EDU  |            National Press Club |
# ======== # ======== # ======== # ======== # ======== # ======== #
| Southeastern Regional Coordinator & Member, Board of Directors  |
| National Association of Graduate-Professional Students (NAGPS)  |
| 1992 - 1993                                                     |
*-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-*
From: greenspan05@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: Business Conference at Wharton
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:23:54 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania
			Proudly Presents

The 6th Annual  Mid-Atlantic Conference on Entrepreneurship

			November 14, 1992
			Univ. of Pennsylvania
			Philadelphia, PA

Featuring Keynote Speakers.............................

Orville & Gary Redenbacher	& 	Jim Koch
Founder & Grandson			President
Orville Redenbacher Popcorn		Boston Beer Company
					Samuel Adams Beer

along with 15 other top entrepreneurs from around the country!!!!

The Mid-Atlantic Conference is intended for the innovative individual who
strives to achieve his/her goals.  Last year more than 200 students and
business people from several states and universities gathered to learn from the
experiences of successful entrepreneurs.  If you want more than you can get
from reading books, talking on networks, or going to class, the Mid-Atlantic
Conference is for you.  17 top entrepreneurs will speak on topics that pertain
directly to your business - from critical early stages of growth to national
and international expansion.  Whether an undergraduate or graduate college
student, business owner, or entrepreneur, this conference could be one of the
smartest business moves you make.  Make contacts, Network with the best and
brightest, and STRIVE FOR SUCCESS!!!!!

The following seminars will be offered this year:

Starting the Right Business		Franchising 101: A Crash Course
Getting your Foot in the Door		Advertising for Results: Choosing
	for New Business			the Right Medium
Hiring and Managing your Team		Raising Venture Capital
MArketing in the '90s			Negotiating to Win
The Tax Advantaged Entrepreneur		Acquiring a Small Business
New Opportunities in Int'l Trade	Going Global
Keeping One Step ahead of the 		Identifying, Managing, and Preparing
	Competition				for Growth
Managing your Finances

The full day conference starts at 9:00am and ends at 4:45 pm with registration
from 8:00am until 9:00am.  The event includes continental breakfast, buffet
lunch, and all conference materials.  Conference Registration is $75.00 ($60.00
early bird before November 7, 1992) Full-time student registration is $25.00
with valid photocopy of student identification.  To receive a brochure(s) or if
you have any questions, reply via vax or telephone (215) 573-7917, Howard
Greenspan, or (215) 386-6129, Paul Horrock, Conference Directors.

Student leaders, Club Presidents, and College Professors:  If you would like
your group, class, or organization to take part in this exciting event, please
contact us and we can send out multiple brochures and information packets. 
Requests can be made by phone, vax, or through the mail at
			Mid-Atlantic Conference
			Snider Entrepreneurial Center
			4th Floor - Vance Hall
			3733 Spruce Street
			Philadelphia,  PA  19104


Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: rat@ravel.udel.edu (Paula Marie Briggs)
Subject: ucal irvine
Keywords: chemistry
 
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 15:17:33 GMT

     Hi there, I am currently a chemsitry major about to graduate
and I just obtained an offer from the chemistry graduate department at
UCal Irvine. I am wondering if there is anyone out there who has comments
on it (do you like it, hate it, etc and why!).

Please email responses to:
     rat@ravel.udel.edu


Thanks in advance,
     Paula
From: cctimar@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu (Cary Timar)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: Re: Gripes
Date: 1 Oct 92 03:01:15 GMT
Organization: Vanderbilt U. Math Grad Student

Tammy C. writes, in article <92273.021311U15188@uicvm.uic.edu> U15188@uicvm.uic.edu:
>
>   Not having a boyfriend

Brian Hall responds, in article <1992Sep29.170755.4381@en.ecn.purdue.edu> bdhall@en.ecn.purdue.edu:
> 
> I need a girlfriend...  What are you doing this weekend? :) :) :)

I think this solves that problem, although they are a little too near to
one another, geographically.  It takes much less effort to have a
boyfriend/girlfriend that you've never met and never will meet.

If all the single grad students just pair off with someone in a
sufficiently distant place, they'll no longer need to worry about not
having a boyfriend or girlfriend, while having one places no extra
demands on them.
--
	-- Cary Timar, Mathematics Department, Vanderbilt University
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: ksh@mayo.edu (Kerrie Holton, Medical Sciences, Summer Student)
Subject: Re: moving expense form?
Reply-To: ksh@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 02:08:07 GMT


I didn't have any trouble when I filled out the form.  I am a grad student
on full fellowship (not TA or RA) who moved from one school to the other.
No complaints from the IRS.


Kerrie


ps. I did consult a CPA about the circumstance beforehand.
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Date: Tuesday, 29 Sep 1992 02:13:11 CDT
From: <U15188@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: Re: Gripes
 <1992Sep24.221928.19121@en.ecn.purdue.edu>

AMEN!!!!! I just spent three hours E-mailing a note to my best friend on this v
ey topic. It is nice to see that we are not the only ones out there who are goi
ng through this. How about:
   pretentious professors
   stiffling 'parties'
   a**holes who are jealous because you happen to not have writer's block!!
   writer's block
   161.00 for books for ONE seminar
   exploitation of your labor and talents
   ISOLATION from the rest of the world
   Not having a boyfriend
   Not knowing what I would do if I did because I am so busy all the time
   pretentious professors
   pretentious professors
   power-wielding pretentious professors
(stop me before I injure myself)
Tammy C (suffering) at UIC