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From: kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca (Kenny Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: X11R5: how to switch to NeXTStep
Date: 16 Dec 92 01:58:00 GMT
Reply-To: kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada

In article <3044@ulysse.enst.fr> laroche@wayne.enst.fr  
(Jean Laroche ) writes:
> Hi there!
> 
> I just installed X11R5 (the free version, mouse'X) on our NEXT machines, and I  
> wondered if it was possible to switch from X to NeXTStep (via some command  
> stuff).
> Does anyone know?

In the old version, it used to be cmd-cmd * on the keypad. It may still be right.

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From: dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re:  Why, Why, WHYYYY?? USE OBJECTIVE-C for IB??
Distribution: world
Date: 14 Dec 92 10:57:30 PST
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <Bz5x32.80A@hpuerca.atl.hp.com> sailer@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Lee Sailer) writes:
>jake@skatter.usask.ca wrote:
>: From article <1fg7kqINNi29@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, by isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell):
>: >
>: >
>: > What Edit needs is emacs' CM-b and CM-f functionality to conveniently jump to
>: > the start and end of a bracketed clause so that those starting brackets can be
>: > easily inserted.
>: > --
>: >
>: > Art Isbell 						     Cubic Solutions
>:  What Edit needs is to be able to interpret elisp.
>:
>: jake
>:
>: --
>
>What NeXTstep needs is an independent USER AGENT object that sits outside
>of any and all programs, accepts commands in some suitable language, and
>executes them.  If the language happened to be elisp, then that set of
>capabilities could be extracted from emacs.  Emacs could still use it to
>work exacctly the way it works now.  Edit could use it.  NeXTMail could
>use it.  All god's chillun could use it.
>
>   USER AGENT	USER AGENT  USER AGENT	USER AGENT  USER AGENT	USER AGENT

    REXX REXX REXX REXX REXX REXX ...

    Rexx has become very popular on the Amiga as a binding agent between
    applications, it is part of the operating system now.  In fact, it
    gives the Amiga inter-application operability that the NeXT can't touch
    (cut and paste just doesn't make it and API's are for programmer's,
    ARexx is for power users!)

					    -Matt

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From: pjm@SPEECH.CS.CMU.EDU (Pedro J. Moreno)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: news reading SW
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:13:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.BzBn2H.Eyr.2
Reply-To: pjm@stevens.SPEECH.CS.CMU.EDU (Pedro J. Moreno)
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon


I have Newsgrazer working in my NeXT, and it works fine, however I'd like  
to have some kind of simple  news reader program that could work on a  
vt100 terminal window, some times when I telnet to my NeXT I'd like to  
have this kind of software...

Any suggestions.......

thanks in advance..

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From: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Lack of color brilliance in GIF pictures?
Reply-To: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:30:17 GMT

Florian Gutzwiller writes

> If I compare the color brillance of GIF prictures on a NeXT 16bit
> system and a Sun 8 bit display the Sun is much more brillant. This
> is not a monitor problem for sure. I'm using ImageViewer.

There are entirely too many variables between the two.  Phosphor
frequencies, electron gun emission curves, lighting, monitor type,
driving circutry.  Unless both monitors are calibrated by the same
equipment and corrected in software, they will never look the same.
And who is to say which is more "correct"?

Don't sweat it.

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From: rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers)
Subject: My Machine crashed Halloween
Summary: limping next
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 19 Dec 92 17:51:50 GMT

...and hasn't been the same since.
At this point, when I power down and back up it says:

Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x10003aa

and gives me a prompt, so I type 
bsd sdmach nbuf=64
and it boots up!  But my machine crashes 'for no appearant reason' about
every 3 days, and sometime my swapfile grows to the size of my free space
- 20 meg or so (that's a 520Meg swapfile).  I believe that it goes all
the way on a lock up.
This is an original Mono Slab, now running 3.0.
Anyone with an idea what's going on?
Thanks,
Kurt
From: oschmid@cube.de (Ottmar Schmid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Electron Microscope
Date: 9 Dec 92 12:11:52 GMT
Organization: Cube Informationssysteme, GmbH

Has anybody connected an electron microscope to a NeXT machine or any other  
computer system?

Thanks in advance,

		Ottmar


Email to oschmid@cube.de
From: sailer@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Lee Sailer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Atlanta
Date: 20 Dec 92 21:14:40 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5


Who's who in Atlanta.  Are there any NeXT user groups, developers, dealers,
NeRDs, NuRDS here?

I've just moved here, and am looking for a few connections.

lee

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From: eob@well.sf.ca.us (Eamonn O'Brien)
Subject: Re: Interest in Full Motion video, without hardware.
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:25:57 GMT

John,

I just happened to see the following on the net.  I have no idea what the
context of the discussion is.  By the way I saw some of your software
being demo'ed at the Stanford University bookstore earlier this year.

All the best,

Eamonn O'Brien-Strain    eob@well.sf.ca.us
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In <18105@mindlink.bc.ca> Peter_Roosen@mindlink.bc.ca (Peter Roosen) writes:

>> Mike Dixon writes:
>>
>> Msg-ID: <mdixon.723269021@thelonius>
>> Posted: 2 Dec 92 04:03:41 GMT
>>
>> Org.  : Xerox PARC
>>
>> Peter_Roosen@mindlink.bc.ca (Peter Roosen) writes:
>>
>> >I have to disagree.  With standard decompression techniques your arguments
>> >are valid.  But there do exist video compression technology capable of
>> >delivering 60:1 or more video compression, maintaining a very high quality
>> of
>> >video.
>>
>> you're missing the point.  it doesn't matter how good your compression
>> algorithm is; you still need to have 30MB/s going from your processor
>> to your video ram.  it isn't going to happen on your current hardware.
>>
>>                                              .mike.


>What?  With a serious compression scheme only data that changes from frame to
>frame needs to be updated.  Where is this figure of 30MBs from.  I would like
>to see some math.


>Peter Roosen

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From: randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall)
Subject: Re: NRW- coming soon
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:56:31 GMT
Reply-To: sh.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall)
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

> been working with the HP 9000 800 series for the last few weeks and HP has
> quite a bit to learn about putting a decent OS on what is really some 
> wonderful hardware. 

That's why they need NeXTSTEP. 
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From: hal@niftyneato.com(Hal Fox-Palmer)
Subject: Re: zxyel modem price
Organization: Hal's phony Co.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:01:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.155506.12043@news.columbia.edu>  writes:
> Back a couple days ago, someone posted an increditable zxyel modem price  
> of $369.00.  Can someone tell me where to get the best zxyel modem  
price?
> 
> Many thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> ---james
> 

MACadam Computers has the Zxyel modem for $350.00 (cash discounted, ad 3%  
for other forms of payment)  415-863-6222, there is a 800 # but I forgot  
it.
hal ;-)  (yes I work there, I'm the NeXT guy)

hal@niftyneato.com
From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NRW- coming soon
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:56:08 GMT
Reply-To: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas

In article <Dec16.161340.46031@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>  
randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall) writes:
>>In article <1giql5INNo5@hamblin.math.byu.edu> bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu (Bill  
>>Smith) writes:
>>> Well, I'll pass another rumor on from a friend.  While the
>>> 88110-flavor box has been dropped, another design based
>>> on it appears to be the version they will release.  It has
>>> a multiprocessing feature with plug-in sites for several
>>> cpu's, you just have another plugged in if you want it.  The
>>> alpha is not going to be the chip they use, it will also
>>> not be P5. No waiting for 68060 either.  Not R4000-etc.
>>> Not Sparc.  Not IBM.  Want to take a guess what's driving
>>> it?  
>>
>>That leaves HP. Yippee!

Bzzzzzt

The 601 (PowerPC)
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From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NRW- coming soon
Date: 14 Dec 1992 21:21:25 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: world
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In article <1giql5INNo5@hamblin.math.byu.edu> bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu (Bill  
Smith) writes:
> Well, I'll pass another rumor on from a friend.  While the
> 88110-flavor box has been dropped, another design based
> on it appears to be the version they will release.  It has
> a multiprocessing feature with plug-in sites for several
> cpu's, you just have another plugged in if you want it.  The
> alpha is not going to be the chip they use, it will also
> not be P5. No waiting for 68060 either.  Not R4000-etc.
> Not Sparc.  Not IBM.  Want to take a guess what's driving
> it? 

What does that leave?

HP PA-RISC is the obvious answer.  It's fast, cheap, has a good rep, and might  
pave the way for a NeXTSTEP port to Snakes.

I suppose something exotic like an AMD is conceivable, but much less likely.
Would you dare to speculate on *when*?

I still like the theory that the NRW is merely a method to find leaks.  They  
tell a story about the NRW to each suspected leaker, but change the CPU.  Thus,  
by seeing which CPU makes the rumour circuit, then know who the leak is! :-)

- Ernie P.

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From: asp@chem.ucsd.edu (Alexander S. Polinsky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Good NeXT ps font collection loaded to sonata!
Date: 17 Dec 1992 00:57:45 GMT
Organization: University of California San Diego, Chemistry
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In article <1992Dec16.143415.7270@socrates.umd.edu> ice@socrates.umd.edu (Fredrik Nyman) writes:
>nweaver@soda.berkeley.edu (Nicholas C. Weaver) writes:
>
>>In article <BzB8AC.3pE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> erno@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Ernest F.B. Pena) writes:
>>>Are these fonts public domain or shareware? From the names, it seems
>>>these are commercial fonts sold by Adobe or ITC or whoever for
>>>$150+?
>
>>	I've downloaded them and looked at em, and they do appear to be
>>Adobe issue.  I believe Garamond is a very specific font by Adobe, and all
>>of them seem to be of REALLY high (read Commercial) quality. 
>Nope.  The AFM (Adobe Font Metric) files may be Adobe issue, but the
>fonts themselves don't seem to be.  I used the FontLister utility to 
>print samples of the Garamond font and compared to Adobe's own
>Garamond.  They're similar, certainly, but definitely not the same.
>Compare, for example, the glyph 'a'.  It's quite different; the top
>edge of the top "loop" of the a on the Adobe font is rounded, while on
>the PD font, it's more of a straight line.  Also compare the 'b'; the
>bottom of the glyph is much straighter on the PD font; the Adobe font
>has a more visible serif.
>
>Still, the quality of these fonts *is* commercial grade.  Maybe
>someone could compare the PD garamond to other commercial Garamonds
>such as ITC Garamond?


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From: kris@black.toppoint.de (Kristian Koehntopp)
Subject: Re: Is there a "cut" command available for the NeXT ???
X-Excuse: X-Copyright wegen Emma, Suedwestpresse und /C'T/DISKUSSIONEN.
Organization: Toppoint Mailbox e.V.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 14:27:38 GMT
X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 1992 Kristian Koehntopp -- All rights reserved.
		 Reproduktion, auch auszugsweise, ausserhalb elektronischer,
		 nichtkommerzieller Datennetze nur mit ausdruecklichem,
		 schriftlichem Einverstaendnis des Autors.

In <28333@oasys.dt.navy.mil> curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch) writes:
>I think "copy" might be what you are looking for.

He isn't looking for copy. There is a "cut" command in System V
UNIX with the following semantics:

black> mahaki man cut | col -bf | uniq

	  CUT(1)	       INTERACTIVE UNIX	System		     CUT(1)

	  NAME
	       cut - cut out selected fields of	each line of a file

	  SYNOPSIS
	       cut -clist [file	...]
	       cut -flist [-dchar] [-s]	[file ...]

	  DESCRIPTION
	       Use cut to cut out columns from a table or fields from each
	       line of a file; in data base parlance, it implements the
	       projection of a relation.  The fields as	specified by list
	       can be fixed length, i.e., character positions as on a
	       punched card (-c	option), or the	length can vary	from line
	       to line and be marked with a field delimiter character like
	       tab (-f option).	 cut can be used as a filter; if no files
	       are given, the standard input is	used.  In addition, a file
	       name of ``-'' explicitly	refers to standard input.
[ ... ]
black>

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From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re:    Can someone help me with this bootup problem?
Organization: P & L Systems
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:19:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.174527.27414@athena.mit.edu> krtamura@athena.mit.edu  
(Kohichi R Tamura) writes:
> I just received my 3.0 upgrade.  It was booting fine off the external  
hard
> drive, but I took it back in because the place that did it for me didn't 
> include NeXTCD and everything in it.  After he put that on, I took it  
home 
> and tried to boot up and now it seems to hang at the point "Checking  
System 
> Files".  It just sits there and I can't see any exchange (flashing  
light) 
> with the external drive. I thought maybe it was just going to take a  
while 
> but it stayed that way for over 10 minutes.
> 

It is almost certainly doing an fsck; the way to verify this is to force a  
verbose boot (interrupt duing 'Testing System' with RightCommand-~ and  
type bsd), and watch the messages.

If so, 10 minutes might well not be long enough.

Paul
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From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Re: 100 Mips Intel NeXT.
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 19:08:34 GMT

In article <92353.084626NLF102@psuvm.psu.edu> <NLF102@psuvm.psu.edu>  
writes:
>   Okay, good point.  Why replace the DSP when you don't have
> to.  If removing it would lower the cost of the NeXT, then do
> it, but otherwise, sure, keep it there.  Still a good idea
> to have a main processor fast enough to do all the jobs,
> just in case lightning strikes the DSP factory and burns
> it down or something.  :D 

I would lean more toward two very fast general processors
- one to handle general tasks and the other to handle DPS
and formerly-DSP audio functions (many of which are on
the 040 in NeXTSTEP 3.0 anyway). You need the
multi-processing, and it would be nice to have one
programming model. There are things DSP's are very good
at, but you can do quite a lot with 100 MIPS. 

All this is moot however - NeXT will do whatever they think
is best. 

Gordon
 
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From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Re: The easy way to install fonts (Re: Good NeXT ps font collection loaded to sonata!)
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:17:55 GMT

In article <1gqa6tINNham@menudo.uh.edu> sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S.  
Sears) writes:
> I guess that everyone misunderstood my question.  I know
> how to use   buildafmdir and cacheAFMData to install new
> fonts.  I also know about   FontInstaller.app from Adobe. 
> Apparently they do not do exactly the same   thing, because
> after I install fonts with FontInstaller.app, the
> following   directories are created: 
> 
> afm
> bitmap
> outline
> 

These are old directories - this is the way the NeXTSTEP
had these files organized prior to NeXTSTEP 2.0. I don't
know of any app that requires these directories to be
there (except perhaps FrameMaker which has some sort of
anlternate font installation scheme - I can't say). 

If an app uses the standard AppKit stuff to access fonts,
these additional directories aren't required. 

> However, when I run buildafmdir on any new fonts, those
> directories are   not created.  My question is basically,
> which is better to use?    buildafmdir is much faster, but it
> *seems* that FontInstaller.app does a   better job in
> installing fonts.  

What FontInstaller from Adobe is probably doing in
addition to creating these folders, is what our Font
Installer does. We found that the only reliable way to
install fonts is to: 

1. Completely delete .afmcache, .fontdirectory and .fontlist

2. Run buildafmdir

3. Run cacheAFMData

The advantage of having an automated installer is that it
ensures that these three steps are completed correctly
every time. 

> What FontInstaller does is to separate the afm bitmaps
> and outlines from   each font.  Is this the better way of
> doing it?  or is buildafmdir the   better way? 

I don't think the seperate directories have any
advantage. I think that the Adobe installer simply does
the right combination of deletion and running
utilities. 

Gordon

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From: wasp!niles (Niles I. Severy)
Subject: e-mail address of Imagine, Inc.
Organization: Napa Valley College
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:45:35 GMT

I need to upgrade MediaStation for NeXTStep 3.0. Would love to reach them  
by e-mail. Anyone know an address for Imagine, Inc.

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From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Re: Converting Mac PS fonts to NeXT?
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 19:29:46 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.232029.16328@Princeton.EDU>  
tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) writes:
> 
> What is the currently recommended way to convert Mac PS fonts
> for use on a NeXT?
> 

I always suggest MetroTools, but since I wrote and sell it...

> I see something called mac-fonts2next under 1.0 release
> at the purdue archive, and I also have an old posting
> about something called mfrc, but I haven't seen that
> program at any of the archives.
> 

mfrc is pretty good and should still be around. It has its
limitations, however. 

What it does:

Sorts through POST resource in a Mac PostScript font and
emits something pretty close to what the NeXT needs in the
way of an outline file. 

What it doesn't do:

Perform any kind of installation procedure
Create .FONT wrappers
Bundle in the AFM file
Name the file correctly in many cases (due to a bug)
Distinguish between Binary and ASCII encoded sections
	(it assumes that they are all binary and converts
	them to ASCII) 
Handle very many Mac file formats:
	MacBinary Support is weak - some flavors don't work
	No support for Mac floppies under NeXTSTEP 3.0
	No support for raw resource forks from 
		FloppyWorks
		MacLink Plus/PC

In short, mfrc is quite likely still on the archives but if
you use it be prepared to do an amount of hand-tweaking to
make the fonts work when you're done. 

If you're interested in a commerccial alternative there
are two: Metamorphosis Pro which runs on a Mac and
MetroTools which runs on a NeXT. 

Meta Pro provides conversion to and from many font file
formats and will generate AFM files. It doesn't create
.FONT wrappers and since it runs on a Mac, it can't really
help with the installation - plus you need a Mac. I haven't
tried it under Executor. If you use  Meta Pro for any volume
of fonts, be prepared to do a lot of work by hand to get them
installed on the NeXT.   

MetroTools requires AFM files for the fonts you wish to
convert, but handles all the other aspects of font
installation transparently. We will release a version
sometime in January or February that generates AFM
files. 

Gordon
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