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From: ndd@bal1 (Ned Danieley)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Aikido in Sacramento?
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:22:39 GMT
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Does anyone know of an Aikido dojo in Sacramento, CA? One of
my students is considering moving out there.

--
Ned Danieley (ndd@sunbar.mc.duke.edu)
Basic Arrhythmia Laboratory
Box 3140, Duke University Medical Center
Durham, NC  27710   (919) 660-5111 or 660-5100
From: umande91@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Benjamin Robert Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Aikido Books
Date: 10 Nov 92 04:58:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: ccu.BxHHtJ.Fyn
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Originator: umande91@ccu.umanitoba.ca


	Greetings from the Great White North!

   I was wondering if there are any good or recomended books on Aikido that
anyone has read?  I know next to nothing about it, and am interested in
every aspect of it.  There is an Aikido school here, but I have been
told it isn't very good, so I haven't gone there for info. 
Can anyone give me a hand?

Reach me at:
		umande91@ccu.umanitoba.ca

	Thanks in advance!
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From: Frank@mindlink.bc.ca (Frank I. Reiter)
Subject: Re: Beginner's questions about Chi
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:58:25 GMT

> Ernst Krudl writes:
>
> : 4) I am studying a combined Wu/Yang style of tai chi.  I understand that
> Yang
> : style is most popular and Wu is popular also, but I haven't seen any
> : references to the combined style outside of my classes.  Is it uncommon?
>
> Never heard about a combiniation. Very curious to hear more.

I've only been studying it for a couple of months, and haven't been exposed
to any other styles so I wouldn't really know what to tell you.  I will
definitely ask my teacher about the history of this style.

Thanks to you and the others for your answers.

Frank.
--
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MIND LINK! Communications Corp. Surrey, British Columbia, Canada
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From: gee@col.hp.com (Ken Gee)
Subject: Re: 10th Dan
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:20:54 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

Kevin Jones writes:
>I know of at least 3 people who were awarded the rank of 10th Dan in
>Aikido, including Tohei Sensei. I know of one person within the Karate

	I know Hikitsuchi Sensei and Tohei Sensei were awarded 10 Dan by
O-Sensei.  Who is the third?

Ken
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From: drury@helix.nih.gov (Richard Drury)
Subject: Re: Better atemi for Aikido
Organization: National Institutes of Health
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 19:12:00 GMT

In article jwalters@stsci.edu writes:

[Aikidoka seeks advice on improving striking technique.]

I wouldn't take on another style just to learn how to strike with
more conviction.  Attending the atemi class at your dojo seems
like a pretty good idea.  Working out occasionally with the
punchy/kicky guys at the local doj* will also help.  But the best
single investment you can make is spending quality time with a
heavy bag.  As with any physical skill, the best way to learn it
is to do (lots of) it.  And working with a heavy bag is as close
as you can get to doing it without actually shedding blood.

As you punch and kick, keep some basic principles in mind.  Aim
your strikes *at* the target, but focus your intention *through*
the target.  Rather than merely punching with your arms or
kicking with your legs, consciously generate the force for all
your strikes with the entire body.  Cultivate a hair-raising
kiai/kiap, and use it every time you make a committed strike.
Let yourself go nuts once in a while against the bag.  Imagine
that it wants to kill you, and will yourself to drop it with a
single strike.

Be careful back in class.  It sounds like your training partners
are not really accustomed to dealing with full power strikes. 
If you start throwing this stuff at them without giving them
time to adjust, you *will* drop somebody.
--
Richard A. Drury
drury@helix.nih.gov
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From: schan@birch.srg.af.mil (Stephen Chan x4485)
Subject: Re: Hsing I Kung Fu
Organization: SRG, Arinc Research Corp., Annapolis, MD
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 13:16:52 GMT

In article <120@hallofjustice.UUCP> dtran@lccinc.UUCP (Duc Tran) writes:
>You can inquire with Sifu XiaoLing Lu of Omei-Shaoling KungFu school
>about taking Hsing-I. She is a excellent Martial Artist and Teacher.
>Her school is at 4316 Markham St., Annadale, VA. Tel (703)-519-0959.
>

	I second this recommendation! Sifu Lu is an amazing martial artist.

--
	Stephen Chan
	uunet!srg!schan or uunet!srg!schan@uunet.uu.net
From: mikel@Apple.COM (Mikel Evins)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Weapons in martial arts...
Date: 13 Nov 92 22:44:12 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <MARY.92Nov12092856@martinique.Cayman.COM> mary@Cayman.COM (Mary Malmros) writes:
>In article <74162@apple.apple.COM> mikel@Apple.COM (Mikel Evins) writes:
>   Lots of martial arts styles teach weapons. Kung Fu styles and
>           ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>   Ninjutsu, in particular, include lots of weapons. I believe that
>   most of the Japanese arts emphasize weapons less, in part because
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>   there are such well-developed martial arts style devoted specifically
>                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>   to weapons (such as kenjutsu and kyudo).
>Ass-backwards statement, Mikel.  Japanese arts emphasize weapons less, 
>because...because, there are Japanese arts that are devoted to weapons.

Thanks for the clarification, Mary. When I typed the post, I thought
it said what you said. Obviously some scrambling occurred on
the way from brain to fingers.
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From: a908301@server1.tiuk.ti.com
Subject: Re: Aikido Black Belt tests
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 13:16:50 GMT

Gerry Santoro writes:
> Perhaps I have a strange attitude regarding rank tests, but frankly I
> do not feel that a test really proves anything.  Being a university
> prof by profession (:-) I can attest that some days people test better
> than other days.  I feel this extends to MA tests as well.

MA'ists train for the most part for self defence, they are learning how
to fight, ok there are many other benefits a student gets from a MA, but
it all boils down to looking after yourself.

When the time comes and a MA'ist has to defend him/herself they are going
to be under a considerable amount of pressure/stress, this is the real test,
can the student remember what they have been taught under stress? can they 
perform under stress? This is what the rank tests attempt to establish. The
pressure is not the same since the student is only fighting for promotion up 
the ranks and not for his/her life, but there is more pressure involved than
there is when simply training with a partner in class.

> actual performance on the test.  It may have been a bad day for them
> when, in fact, the instructors know that on other days the student
> performs at the desired level.

Many instructors will evaluate the students before gradings, and will allow 
a limited amount of mistakes on the day and put them down to nerves. In some
ways this is good but the bottom line is, if a student is attacked in the 
street and they're having a bad day, they may be killed.  

> you want?  What is important is skill, progress and knowledge. I fear some
> people put too much esteem into rank, which often leads to  dojo
> politics.

I agree, skill and knowledge are important but sometimes students need an 
incentive to train hard, the ranks act as an incentive, they give the 
student a focus, something to aim for in their training.


---
Andy Hudson (a908301@server1.tiuk.ti.com)

    - NE TE CONFUNDANT ILLEGITIMI ! -





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From: drury@helix.nih.gov (Richard Drury)
Subject: Re: knife techniques
Organization: National Institutes of Health
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 04:43:00 GMT

In article fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary) writes:
>In article scollins@wpi.WPI.EDU (Suppasak Collins) writes:
>>If you've read THE FILIPINO MARTIAL ARTS by Dan Inosanto, he stated that it's
>>almost impossible to counter a knife fighter unless you're armed with some sort
>>of weapon yourself.
>
>My impression was that filipino martial arts include the best knife fighting
>styles around. While I doubt an unarmed person could handle a good
>filipino knife fighter, I'm also not sure how much this really says:
>The average street knife fighter will not be nearly that good.

While this is probably true, I'm not sure how much it really says
either.  Knowing that I am probably not facing a blademaster, but
might be, with no particularly reliable way to tell the
difference except by noticing whether or not I'm dead when it's
all over, is not of much practical value.  As a practical matter,
you don't have much choice but to treat *any* knife wielding
assailant as if he were Dan Inosanto's evil twin.

Fillipino fighters routinely train empty hand vs. edged weapons.
Most of the rough and ready old timers have a story or two about
surviving knife attacks unarmed.  This is certainly not the
optimal scenario, but prevailing against suboptimal
circumstances is the whole point of MA.  I wouldn't want to
argue with Inosanto, who is truly an authority in this area, but
I think "almost impossible" is overstating the case, and I
wonder if that is what he actually said.  Can somebody fish out
the relevant quotation from his book?
--
Richard A. Drury
drury@helix.nih.gov
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From: jon@zeus.med.utah.edu (Jonathan Byrd)
Subject: Re: Badass Karate (-Do?)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:49:51 GMT
Summary: sarcasm
	<721003993snx@paragon.folly.welly.gen.nz>
Organization: University of Utah

In article <721003993snx@paragon.folly.welly.gen.nz> richard@paragon.folly.welly.gen.nz (Richard Parry) writes:

   Sumo is pretty much brute strength.

I think that balance and the ability to shift one's weight quickly may
also contribute in some small way.

--
jonathan byrd
jon@apollo.med.utah.edu
From: dunger@crsa.bu.edu (David Unger)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Shaolinji Konshin Ryu Kempo
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:28:51 GMT
Organization: Boston University Center for Remote Sensing

bob,
	you shall work a full day on the 30th
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From: kjones@src.dec.com (Kevin Jones)
Subject: Re: 10th Dan
Organization: DEC Systems Research Center
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 20:18:11 GMT

In article <40028.312921040@onyx.kiwi.gen.nz>, mark@onyx.kiwi.gen.nz (Mark Goldie) writes:
|> I have been told that the rank of 10th Dan is not held by anyone in the
|> world and has not been for 100's of years

The concept of Dan rankings is not 100's of years old, so there is
clearly some confusion somewhere. The Dan/Kyu ranking system is a
development of Kano's Judo and is pretty much a 20th Century
institution. Older "rankings" with Japanese arts consisted of
"teaching scrolls" and no art had 10 levels of those!

There are certainly people within some styles that hold the rank of
10th Dan.  There are a number of "founders" who are notionally
regarded as 10th Dan. There are also a number of people who were
awarded the rank by others.


I know of at least 3 people who were awarded the rank of 10th Dan in
Aikido, including Tohei Sensei. I know of one person within the Karate
styles (there are certainly others - I'm just listing people I've had
contact with). All these people were very much alive the last time I
looked 8->.


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From: drury@helix.nih.gov (Richard Drury)
Subject: Re: Better atemi for Aikido
Organization: National Institutes of Health
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 12:49:52 GMT

In article car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers) writes:
>Actually, the bag *does* want to kill you.  The one at my ATA TKD
>club attacked me as I was storing it last Monday evening. 
>The attack came without any warning, and the bag used its steel 
>attachment chain with great effect, leaving a fist-sized purple
>and yellow bruise just below my right clavicle.  I don't know if 
>it keyupped or not: I think I probably drowned it out with all the 
>magic words I was using at the time.

Absolutely.  I thought I was the only one to notice the
misanthropy of heavy bags.  Mine tries to slam me on the
concrete floor of my basement every time I almost land a really
powerfull Thai roundhouse.  It also likes to hyperextend my knee
by not being there when I throw an otherwise devastating front
heel kick.  Worst of all was the time it grabbed a very high
roundhouse kick and left me hanging by the ankle from the
attachment chain, a la Stephen Northcutt, the tetherball king. 
It even attacks bystanders who are foolish enough to get within
range.  It once leaped right off the joists and did a full body
drop on my sleeping golden retriever.  He doesn't watch my
kicking practice anymore.

So *kick* that ugly bag.  It wants you dead.
--
Richard A. Drury
drury@helix.nih.gov
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From: hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd)
Subject: Stockholm dojo, for shotokan & kendo?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:32:01 GMT

Hi, I'm soon to move to Stockholm,

Can anyone reccomend dojo where I can continue my Shotokan Karate training,
and where I can start kendo?

I have no idea what the geography of the city is like, but I'll be near the
Zoology dept, @ U of S.

Thanks in advance,

-- 
Pete Hurd, hurd@sfu.ca|
Behavioural Ecology   |
Dept.Biol.Sci., SFU.  |
Burnaby B.C., Canada  |"As miserable as ever" replied the enlightend Kyogen.
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From: troyer@mitre.org (Tom Royer)
Subject: Re: 10th Dan
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:01:55 GMT

In article <hurd.721260756@sfu.ca> hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd) 
writes:
> I asked a question of an 8th dan about a kick combination, and he had to
> answer it with his other leg leading since he couldn't do a front snap 
kick
> anymore with his left leg.  Even if he was good enough, whatever that
> means at this level, to be 10th dan when he was 5th, would he still be
> that good, years later?  I can see why kumite isn't on the grading
> syllabus at higher levels, everyone knows that you are a hot karateka,
> but how well do you teach others, and how do you preserve and advance
> your MA become more important questions.
> -- 

My instructor once told me that the first five dan ranks come for
what you've gotten out of the system, the next ranks come for
what you've given back.

--
Tom Royer
"If you're not free to fail, you're not free."
                                            -- Gene Burns
From: mikel@Apple.COM (Mikel Evins)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Flail legality
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:49:28 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1df5ldINN1qk@agate.berkeley.edu> joan@koala.berkeley.edu writes:
>
>I planted a small patch of wheat in my garden this year and now after
>having threshed it with a stick, I am thinking of making a flail for
>next year.  I understand that a nunchaku is a flail and is illegal
>in California.  I can't say I am really worried that if I connect
>two sticks together with cord that I would be arrested, but I would
>like to know if anyone has information on the subject.

The text of the law describes any two or more pieces of wood or
metal connected by chain, cord, wire, or string as a nunchaku.
Possession is a felony. I don't have the text of the law with me, but
I think we have a copy at our school. Martial arts schools are allowed 
to have nunchaku for training.

>What is the penalty for nunchaku-like martial arts weapons in Calif.?
>Is that for carry or for posession?

I don't remember offhand, though it was fairly stiff. If you don't
want to wait for me to find our copy of the statute you can call
a police department or the attornet general's office and ask what
the chapter and title are, and then look it up at the library.
From: robert.roth@hal9000.UUCP (Robert Roth) 
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: RE: BADASS KARATE
Date: 10 Nov 92 08:18:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: HAL 9000 BBS, (313)663-4173, Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Reply-To: robert.roth@hal9000.UUCP (Robert Roth) 

From Bob Roth
Ann Arbor and Detroit
Nov 9, 1992
Regarding Badass Karate
From Richard Sandross

> Far and away the hardest art is living.

I've been active in the martial arts for thirty years.  I haven't
worried
 about whether I could defend myself or whether my master is tougher
than
 somebody else's for some time.  I know I can be hurt and some people
are
  better fighters than I am.

 As a high-school teacher I have far more opportunity to apply martial
arts
 practices than I desire, in breaking
  up fights and preventing attacks on other staff members. I hate the
feeling
  of going into martial arts perception and time slowing and such.  It's
a
  scary other world feeling. But so far I have used the minimum to stop
the
   confrontation with out hurting anyone permanently. I have some faith
in
   the martial artist I have created with in me but I do what I can to
stay
  out of this kind of situation. I really don't enjoy the reality of
   self-defense.

        What I like is the experience of learning new perceptions. I see
a new
   world each time my posture changes or I learn a new method of
movement. I
   like to move young as my friends and colleagues stoop and stiffen
through
   the years. I like to fall of the back porch because of unexpected ice

   and get up and be completely unharmed.  That was worth a lot of
martial
   arts practice.

   The line of question starting who is tougher ends with nasty things
like
    guns and bombs. I think there are many other reasons for training in
the
  martial arts than being the toughest guy on the block or even on the
planet.

  P.S If your Master has any medical problem, my Master can probably
help
  him get well.  (:
From: ph2sct@sdcc14.ucsd.edu (Dzu Nguyen)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: wing chun schools
Keywords: wing chun, schools
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:54:22 GMT

hi folks,

i was wondering,....

1) does anybody know of any good wing chun schools in san diego CA?
   i've checked in the phone book but to no avail. i have also
   checked on campus here with no success. 

2) also do you think it is a bad idea to take several different MA
   at the same time?

thanks for your time

dzu  (dtnguyen@sdcc13.ucsd.edu)
From: la@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Lewis Alderton)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Ted's Aikido Tips #1
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:14:24 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

In article <1992Nov11.023224.13643@cs.brown.edu>, tac@cs.brown.edu (Ted A. Camus) writes:
> 
>    Someone recently posted about how painful it was doing sankyo 30
>    times at a seminar.  Here's something that'll make it less
>    stressful to the wrist.  Make it a point to keep your thumb inward 
>    towards your little finger if you can.  I.e., avoid the "human
>    snuff box" that forms from the two tendons at the base of the thumb
>    if the thumb is placed on the side of the wrist.  This also makes it 
>    painless to do a sankyo stretch on oneself using the opposite hand. 
> 
>    Enjoy.  Let me suggest that if anyone has their own useful tricks
>    (or comments on mine) that they post them to share with everyone --
>
A favourite trick of mine is -- If some-one is trying to do Sankyo but 
lifts my elbow too high, it is relatively easy to to drop the elbow
and smash him in the face. Try it it's fun

My all time top tip is for Kaiten-Nage (spelling). Just as you are
being thrown, reach up with your free hand and grab your opponents
bollocks (men only). The result is often amusing.



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From: exudms@exu.ericsson.se (New Dave)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Short review of Van Damme Movies
Summary: Reviewer's Choice of...
Keywords: read
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:19:48 GMT
Reply-To: exudms@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article 26022@craycos.com, sog@craycos.com (Steve Gombosi) writes:
->In article <1992Nov12.114017.7497@samba.oit.unc.edu> Gordon.Wormser@launchpad.unc.edu (Gordon Wormser) writes:
->>
->>Can anyone provide me with short critiques of Van Damme's movies?  Thanks. 
->
->They stink.
->
->Is that short enough?
->
->Steve


Le Holly_Van Dam_Wood! Oui?

/New Dave
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From: schan@birch.srg.af.mil (Stephen Chan x4485)
Subject: Re: Time for belts/knife techniques
Organization: SRG, Arinc Research Corp., Annapolis, MD
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 14:15:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.133613.21220@relay.nswc.navy.mil> snorthc@relay.nswc.navy.mil writes:
>Kuo Hau Chang tells a second hand story:
>>He asked the fellow to attack him with a knife so as to demonstrate
>>his badassedness to 
>
>Your slant is showing here, tssk tssk.

	SLANT! You called Kuo Hau Chang a SLANT!? I heard, errrr, READ that!

	Oooohhhh...wait till I tell your slanty-eyed TKD instructor about THAT
little gaffe, round-eye!

	(do I *really* need to put smileys here?)
--
	Stephen Chan
	uunet!srg!schan or uunet!srg!schan@uunet.uu.net
From: princecr@mala.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: 10th Dan
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:07:30 -0700
Organization: Malaspina College

In article <40028.312921040@onyx.kiwi.gen.nz>, mark@onyx.kiwi.gen.nz (Mark Goldie) writes:
> I have been told that the rank of 10th dan is not held by anyone in the
> world and has not been for 100's of years, as my instructor is 5th dan
> and the Kancho-Sensei of Chidokan is 7th dan, I find it difficult to accept
> that there is not someone out of 3 billion people who hold a rank three
> grades higher. 
>  
>  Mark (Only Sankyu but I'm getting there)
> 
This is not entirely true,  Every second person in the U.S. does claim to be a
10th dan,  But among the super extra traditionalists that stricly follow the
organizations that be and are 100% loyal to the original extra traditional
style that they study there are a few 10th dans.  But very few.  for example at
one time recently in the Dai-Nippon-Butoku-kai there were rumored less than 12
9th and 10th dans.

chris.
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