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From: dchuk@netcom.com (Denise Chuk)
Subject: Attention: TCI customers
Keywords: TCI and SF Channel
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:04:55 GMT

I live in San Jose area, and, unfortunately, the local cable co is owned by
TCI.  I wrote them a letter a week ago asking them (nicely) to consider
carrying SFC and Cartoon Channel.  Well, someone wrote back and said TCI
"does not have any plans to carry these two channels at this moment." :-(
However, I also heard on local radio that TCI is still thinking and negotiating
with USA, so there still is some hope.  So, if all TCI customers can unite
together and tell the TCI office (not just the regional companies) that we
WANT SFC, maybe they will work a little harder to come to terms with whatever
"difficulty" they have in getting the two channels.  

It really makes me mad to know that while I am still waiting for some
miracle to happen, my neighbors in San Franscisco and Palo Alto are enjoying
the SF Channel right at this moment, and to think that I used to live in
Palo Alto :-(!  So let all TCI customers who want to have SF channel start
calling and writing, shall we?

D.C.
  
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From: mmcalees@cs16.UVic.CA (Michael McAleese)
Subject: Re: Covington Cross
Organization: Those Dudes
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 00:58:12 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.183612.19859@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> overland@lonestar.utsa.edu (Michael A. Overland) writes:
>In article <9209302118.AA00448@rutgers.edu> CRAIG@MITVMA.MIT.EDU (Ed Craig) writes:
>> [detailed critique of Covington Cross deleted]
>
>Edward,
>     Thank you for your closed mind oppinion.  People like you are the reason
>that there aren't many good television shows on.  If you don't like the show,
>then don't watch it.  I think that the show is good because it is different
>from all of the "police story", "talk show", "lets put some people in a room
>and see how they interact" shows.  Always remember, closed minded people,
>such as yourself, tried to kill Star Trek in 1968 and it is still here.
>Why not give Covington Cross a chance to get better.  Who knows, Covington
>Cross might turn into the Star Trek of the 90's.  
>Michael Overland  

   His 'closed mind' (sic) opinion?  He was just pointing out that the 
series bears little relation to anything resembling medaevil life, a 
valid point for this show.  He might also have added that it is clumsily
plotted and boring, but he chose to highlight the feature that is for
him (and myself as well) the most grating aspect.  Giving an opinion is
hardly close-minded.
   By the way, I thought Star Trek was the Star Trek of the 90's?

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From: mmeltzer@wam.umd.edu
Subject: Re: Quantum Leap - Brooke Shields Episode - maybe spoilers
Reply-To: mmeltzer@wam.umd.edu
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:24:47 GMT


Did you ever sit back and think that what most people remember Brooke  
Shields for is her role in "The Blue Lagoon"?

I know she was in other movies, but I don't remember their titles, simply  
because they were bad movies.

Now, about Nickos:  It seems as if they have all they need to survive.  If  
Nickos really needed clothing, they could make it from some of the  
wildlife that grows on the "previously" DESERTED island.  Basically what  
I'm trying to say is, he doesn't need clothes!!!!

Al told Sam that Nickos and Ms Foster (Brooke Shields) were going to have  
six children.  That tells me that neither of them wore any clothes.

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From: wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-smof.cts.com!rfletcher@cactus.org (Robert Fletcher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL:  Episode info needed (Aust)
Date: 28 Sep 1992 09:41:39 -0500
Organization: The SMOF-BBS: Science Fiction Online Since 1985 [512-467-7317]
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

  That was a nice show and a little tuff for me to explain. If no one jumps
in I will try in a few days.
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From: mtpins@icaen.uiowa.edu (Michael T Pins)
Subject: Re: will sf channel survive?
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 03:17:17 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin) writes:

>However, since USA Network owns a big chunk of SFC, they can probably
>afford to wait and see if things improve.

USA Network owns 100% of the Sci-Fi Channel.

>Still, I'm skeptical.  SFC's programming is pretty weak, and many cable
>systems are operating at channel capacity these days.  I don't expect many
>of them to knock off extremely profitable shopping channels in favor of SFC
>or the Cartoon Network.  And if they decide to pick one of these, I'll bet
>they'll go with the cartoons; it has Ted Turner behind it (has he ever
>failed at anything?), and the toy companies probably have bigger
>advertising budgets than the folks who advertise on the SFC, so it's more

Considering the fact that the people who supposedly *run* it either
1> lied to everyone at WorldCon or
2> don't know what's going on at their own channel
I have my doubts about it longevity.  They not only claimed that things
like Dr Who wouldn't be cut for commercials, but said it wouldn't be
broadcasting in stereo.  (the latter indicating cluelessnes, as it would
be rather silly to claim you'll be sending out an inferior signal)
Their only real hope is that congress lets the phone companies into the 
cable industry, which will shake things up enough that space will be made
for anything with a potential audience.

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From: msr@kepler.unh.edu (Mathew S Reno)
Subject: V both miniseries'
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 03:08:29 GMT

I am posting this for a friend,

just wondering if anyone had the first and second mini-series of V.  
I don't want the actual series that came afterwards, just the mini's.
If someone has them, I will pay for postage and tapes.  Thank you for
your help.

please send responses by email to,
msr@kepler.unh.edu

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From: c164-aa@po.berkeley.edu (Paul DuBois)
Subject: QL: Where'd he leap from?
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 06:19:05 GMT

Just a simple question here.  I didn't recognize the scene from which
Sam leaped at the beginning of the most recent "Taming of ..." episode.
It definitely wasn't LHO.  Was it a real episode, or was that snippet
filmed just to be an opener?


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	id <j103228@pro-amber.cts.com>; Thu,  1 Oct 92 00: 53 PDT
From: rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (Randy Sopicki)
Subject: Re: SCI-FI Channel
Organization: ProLine [pro-amber] -- Spring Valley, Ca
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 00:52:39 PDT

In <m6gwRB1w164w@jab.tucson.az.us>
barry@jab.tucson.az.us (Barry Mishkind) writes:

>Just so I've added my two cents.... I have really had enough psychic ads,
>and programs that start ahead of schedule, and programs that don't run at 
>the times we were led to expect (2AM Monday was supposed to be the Prisoner 
>rerun), and a 1/2 hour Dr. Who Hour.
> 
>Maybe my clock is off .. or I misread the schedule as listed, but I find 
>that
>many of the programs are not as expected?
>
>==================================================================
>Barry Mishkind
>barry@jab.tucson.az.us

At least you've got it to complain about. We don't even have that luxury
here in San Diego, Ca.

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From: dzembj@vccsouth20.its.rpi.edu (Jason Eric Dzembo)
Subject: Re: QL: Where'd he leap from?
Reply-To: dzembj@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 03:22:40 GMT

In article <Oct.3.13.25.19.1992.21776@remus.rutgers.edu>, finifter@remus.rutgers.edu (Tracy E. Finifter) writes:
|> Every episode for the rest of the season should start with that same episode.
|> It's a bunch of clips from previous episodes, the last one being from last
|> season's "A Little Drop of Rain".

Er, just picking nits here, but that's  "A SINGLE Drop Of Rain"  :-)

					- Jason
From: msy@siemens.com. (Marcus S. Yoo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: The Highlander TV series begins 3 oct 1992
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:20:42 GMT

wildcard@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes:
>In article <6324@npri6.npri.com>, murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy) writes:
>> it will premiere at 6:00 on saturday 3 oct 1992 on channel 20 in washington DC.
>> does that help?
>What Network is that?  Could you please e-mail a response

Did someone post a station list for the Highlander series?
If so, I've missed it. Can someone tell me if/when it will be on
in Philly area? or on any other cable stations (NY PIX/WOR)?
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From: charles@netcom.netcom.com (Charles R. Hoynowski)
Subject: Re: Anyone getting the SciFi Channel in Stereo?
Organization: Gizmonic Institute, SOL Division
Distribution: us
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 09:38:56 GMT

In article <BvEGC3.CCp@ais.org> alb@ais.org (Alan Brushaber) writes:


     We don't seem to be here in Ann Arbor. Although it won't matter for most
   of the old material they're programming, it would be nice for the newer
   stuff. Isn't the S-F channel owned by the USA Network - we don't receive
   that channel in stereo either - maybe they just don't intend to support it.
   Anyone know anything about this?

Yes, the Sci-Fi Channel is being broadcast in stereo, as is the USA
network.  In fact USA is broadcast in digital stereo but the Sci-Fi 
Channel is only analog, it'll be another year before it goes to digital
sound.  Now of course your cable company dos'nt have to rebroadcast 
(cablecast?) it stereo and most of them don't.  And no cable system I'm
aware of has ever provided digital sound to their customers, you need
a dish for that.

 
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From: tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk (Trevor Jenkins)
Subject: Enough with the QL premiere already! 
Distribution: world
Organization: Job hunters use Parachute
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:51:31 +0000


In article <1992Sep25.201621.11484@eos.arc.nasa.gov> shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov writes:

> Well... I might suggest that QL gets its OWN newsgroup. Has this been
> proposed yet? I mean, I like it ok myself, but its hell trying to keep
> up with this newsgrp as it is, but when there are 50 or so articles
> A DAY on this one program, well fergit it. Even during rerun time you
> can still count on at least 25-30 posts on the show. 

This plethora of messages has only been occasioned by the (US) season
premiere. The traffic in the group was acceptable until that happened. A
cooling off period is called for once the initial reaction to the LHO ep
has receded. There was a suggestion that QL be relegated to alt.
status...bad move!

Of course, those of us QL fans in the UK wont get to see this contentious
ep for several years yet. We are awaiting the return of QL with the
expected ep being "Future Boy". BBC get you finger out and buy the
remaining series!

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From: greenlaw@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Leila Thomas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: will sf channel survive?
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:38:29 GMT
Reply-To: greenlaw@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Leila Thomas)
Organization: David Taylor Research Center, Annapolis, MD

In rec.arts.sf.tv, person@plains.NoDak.edu (Brett G Person ) writes:
>I question whether sfc can survive for more than a couple of years.
>There is oonly so much sf out there, and a lot of that is BAD sf.

I question whether it can survive if only a few places get it.
I wonder if someone took a poll to see who does and who does not get
the SF channel.  It seems to me from all the posts that the majority
do not get it (I am one, I live in the Baltimore-Washington area).

Leila

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From: dlb@fanny.wash.inmet.com (David Barton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: QL: Jimmy
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:28:32 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.sf.tv
Organization: Intermetrics Inc., Washington Division, USA

I almost never post paens of praise about a TV show.  This is an
exception.

As a born-again Leaper with the re-runs on USA, I have enjoyed Quantum
Leap.  Last night's episode, "Jimmy", was a step above.  Truly
incredible.

Some episodes and stories justify science fiction as a truly
independent art form, able to give us experiences that are not
available otherwise.  This was one such.  Sam leaping into a retarded
man, and though not retarded himself, finding ordinary actions and
mistakes taken as further proof of his "retardation".  As the episode
progressed, I became more and more convinced that if, for some reason,
I had been labeled retarded as a young boy, I would not be in an
institution.

The ordinary scene that sticks with me (a sign of a truly great show):
Sam setting the table, handlling the plates in an exagerated, careful
fashion, afraid of simply dropping one.  Then storming out of the room
in sheer frustration, in a manner very consistent with retarded
people, when he does and gets shouted at.

A truly wonderful episode.  Why it did not win an Emmy, I don't know.
It certainly deserved one.

					Dave Barton
					dlb@hudson.wash.inmet.com
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From: alb@ais.org (Alan Brushaber)
Subject: Anyone getting the SciFi Channel in Stereo?
Organization: UMCC
Distribution: us
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:26:24 GMT



  We don't seem to be here in Ann Arbor. Although it won't matter for most
of the old material they're programming, it would be nice for the newer
stuff. Isn't the S-F channel owned by the USA Network - we don't receive
that channel in stereo either - maybe they just don't intend to support it.
Anyone know anything about this?

Al - alb@ais.org
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From: sallylb@netcom.com (Sally Smith)
Subject: Re: QL Convention
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:25:10 GMT

In article <16877B1E1.JC924@uacsc2.albany.edu> JC924@uacsc2.albany.edu writes:
>I saw a mention of the QL Convention and some reference to its being changed.
>I must of missed some postings.  Has it been moved from Florida?  When is it
>scheduled?  How does one register?

QL Con 2: Universal Studios, Hollywood (or somewhere near)
	  Feb. 13-15, 1993

That's literally all the information available at this time. The powers
that be at Universal are really dragging their heels about details, and
the QL people are getting as tired of waiting as we are.

Watch this space for further details -- you'll get 'em as soon as I do.

Sally
net.Leap.info.source


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From: dmb@world.std.com (Deborah M Brown)
Subject: Re: QL: Two-Faced Reviews: Leaping of the Shrew
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:58:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.011710.19271@grebyn.com> billones@grebyn.com (Jeremy Billones) writes:

>Spoilers for September 29th's Episode

Naaah, I took them out.

I just wanted to add that this season should forever put to rest the
"why doesn't Sam leap into people in other countries?" questions that
have been cropping up since the series began.

In just these two episodes he's pretty much covered some of the major
continents (North America, Europe, Asia).  Wait 'till he hits Toon
Town! :-D

[...]
>Next week - hey, the writers may be keeping Blind Faith in continuity
>after all...

We'll see.  


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From: detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David De Trolio)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: The Highlander TV series begins 3 oct 1992
Date: 2 Oct 92 01:39:23 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

It has already started on WWOR today, October 1.


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From: JC924@uacsc2.albany.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: QL Convention
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:38:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: uacsc2.16877B1E1.JC924
Organization: University at Albany, Albany NY 12222

I saw a mention of the QL Convention and some reference to its being changed.
I must of missed some postings.  Has it been moved from Florida?  When is it
scheduled?  How does one register?
From: U16244@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Blake's 7 Ending
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:31:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: uicvm.92273.113150U16244
 <1992Sep22.033252.2565@mdcbbs.com>
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

In article <1992Sep22.033252.2565@mdcbbs.com>, mikew@mdcbbs.com (Mike 'the Bard'
Whitaker) says:
>The other remark I seem to recall concerns the sound FX directions for the
>final shootout. The final shot heard is *Avon's*.

I thought that the final seven shots, heard during the credits, were the
seven shots for each of the members of Blake's 7.  A memmorium of
sorts.  And besides, if it were the sound FX for a firefight, and  Avon  was
at  the center of a ring of guards, you'd think it would be louder and
more rapid fire than just seven, slowly placed, almost symbolic shots.  Then
again, the firefight  could have gone on in slow mo.

DPW.
From: odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Covington Cross
Date: 4 Oct 92 01:03:00 GMT
Organization: The Stuffed Animal Trauma Team  (We're Trained Professionals)

In article <1992Oct1.183612.19859@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> overland@lonestar.utsa.edu (Michael A. Overland) writes:
>Edward,
>     Thank you for your closed mind oppinion.  People like you are the reason
>that there aren't many good television shows on.  If you don't like the show,
>then don't watch it.  I think that the show is good because it is different
>from all of the "police story", "talk show", "lets put some people in a room
>and see how they interact" shows.  Always remember, closed minded people,
>such as yourself, tried to kill Star Trek in 1968 and it is still here.
>Why not give Covington Cross a chance to get better.  Who knows, Covington
>Cross might turn into the Star Trek of the 90's.  
>Michael Overland  

  So, an accurate list of *blatant* anachronisms in a show set in a documented
  Historical period makes the person who posted it a close-minded idiot, the 
  like of which would have kept us in caves or somesuch?

  You, Sir, need an enema.

  "Star Trek" in the late '60s was new and had never been done before.  "Cov-
  ington Cross" is (to borrow a phrase) no "Star Trek".  It's a Medieval
  "Father Knows Best"...  Horrid acting (IMHO), lousy directing (IMHO),
  execrable plots (IMHO -- Where'd the dark haired son from the pilot [run
  three times...] go, anyway?), and painful anachronisms (no opinion necessary
  since it's truth).  There's nothing original here, and nothing (IMHO) worth
  watching UNLESS it gets better.  So I, like Edward, am not going to waste
  my time.  You are free to if you like.  I'm hardly going to try to get it
  cancelled... It'll get that if no one watches it.  Are you, Michael, going 
  to force us to watch it?  If so, it is *you* who are closed-minded.

  No, I'll amend the "nothing worth watching" line:  The costumes are ex-
  cellent, if inaccurate at times.

  Come right down to it, this is a TV show and nothing more.  Watch it if you
  want to.  I won't.

  Enjoy.
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From: aberigan@nde.unl.edu (A. Berigan)
Subject: Re: Back Leaping (was Re: QL: Oswald)
Keywords: Leap for Lisa, The Leap Back
Organization: Ord High School, Ord, NE
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 03:29:36 GMT

salley@niktow.canisius.edu (David Salley) writes:
>Alan D. writes:

>>Here's a stupid question: Why can't they (in general) Leap the Leapee
>>back into him/her-self the way they did to Bingo (Al) in 'Leap for
>>Lisa'?  Shouldn't that bounce Sam back into himself?  Are they saving
>>that for the last episode?  Am I missing something from the first few
>>seasons which explains this?  (Since in "Leap for Lisa" and "The Leap
>>Back" they said that they can now leap someone into a particular
>>person at a particular time...)

>That brings up an even more stupid question:  When they leap Bingo back into
>himself, who's occupying Sam's body in the waiting room?  The Bingo of
>two weeks prior?  Sam??  Nobody??? (shudder)

Technical nit-pick: occupying Sam's aura.

Well, they get Bingo two-weeks-prior, then he leaps back, and then is
yanked back into himself when Sam leaps.

Of course, the displacement could have happened at another point
connected to the present at the Project.  After all, it seemed that Al
didn't go to check up on leaped-Bingo directly.

As it is said, "Don't investigate this too closely."

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