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From: frank@maxwell.concordia.ca ( Frank Maselli )
Newsgroups: can.general
Subject: Message from Concordia University
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:22:27 GMT
Organization: Concordia University, Montreal Quebec

On behalf of the Rector and Vice-Chancellor of Concordia University
I am posting the following message:


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Subject:        Message from Dr. Patrick Kenniff, Rector and Vice-
                Chancellor  of Concordia University in response to
                queries with regard to Dr. Fabrikant


I  am  taking  the unusual step of posting a message on this medium
because  it  has  come  to  my  attention that the  allegations  of
scientific  misconduct  raised  by V.I. Fabrikant  continue  to  be
addressed  on  this  system and because I wish to inform you of the
tragic events of 24 August 1992 at our University.

V.I. Fabrikant, an Associate Professor at Concordia University, has
been  charged  with three counts of first-degree murder, two counts
of  attempted  murder, two  counts  of  hostage-taking  as  well as
uttering  death  threats and using a firearm in the commission of a
crime.  Three  of  our  colleagues are dead, one remains in serious
condition  and  the fifth is recovering from a gunshot wound to the
leg. The  families  of  the deceased and the injured as well as the
entire University community are in a  state of  shock and mourning.

The   Vice-Rector,  Academic   conducted   an   inquiry   into  the
numerous  allegations  he  raised  and  reported  to  the  Board of
Governors  in  March  1992  that  they  were  unfounded.   However,
with the continuance of Dr. Fabrikant's allegations, the University
will undertake a further review with dispatch. Let us not, however,
lose  sight of who the victims are in this tragedy. There can be no
excuse nor justification for the brutal and senseless actions of 24
August 1992.

Patrick Kenniff
Rector & Vice-Chancellor
Concordia University

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Newsgroups: can.general
From: "steve hartwell" <steve.hartwell@canrem.com>
Subject: zundel
Reply-To: "steve hartwell" <steve.hartwell@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: can
Date: 13 Sep 92 14:14:15 EST

     Original message from: RHEAL NADEAU

RN>  Newsgroup: can.general
RN> Message-ID: <1992Sep6.011922.17725@bcrka451.bnr.ca>
RN>    Subject: zundel
RN>
RN>In article <1992Sep5.709.6593@dosgate> "steve hartwell"
RN><steve.hartwell@canrem.: >
RN>> After it's history, a self-proclaimed Nazi must surely be legally

RN>"Nazi" is a word.  It appeals to certain misguided, racist, losers.
RN>That does not automatically make them murderers.
RN>
RN>Or shall we condemn all Christians (literally condemn them, with

RN>Judge Zundel by his actions.  He is no doubt despicable, but he

RN>Why am I defending Zundel?  I'm not defending him - I'm defending

 Hi Rheal,

 All good points, I can not deny.

 Protecting our society does mean protecting those we disagree with.

 But, I will not support protecting any group that does not believe in
 reciprocating.

 Zundel has already displayed enough actions to make a determination
 that he and his group are misguided, racist, losers.

 And, if you give 'em an inch, they'll most assuredly pick You, as the
 first to be eliminated, if only because they consider you to be a
 weak fool for falling for their claim to rights that they have no
 intention of giving to others.

 Cheers, Sh (IMHO)

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Newsgroups: can.general
From: Robert_Broughton@mindlink.bc.ca (Robert Broughton)
Newsgroups: can.general
Subject: Re: Francophones nationally oppressed on basis of language
Date: 5 Sep 92 22:54:58 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: can

> Brian writes:
> 
>    On the one side, the Canadian ruling class is fighting with all its
> strength to reinforce the national and linguistic oppression of the
> Qubcois--at the very time that it is denying that such oppression exists.

I wasn't aware that language rights were a "Capitalism vs. Communism" issue.

> 
> The oppression and discrimination suffered by francophones is an integral
> part of the capitalist system in Canada.

Well, thanks for clearing this up. :-)

IMHO, the real "opressors" in Quebec are the Quebec nationalists. These people
will not suffer economically from Quebec independence. It's your "working
class" that will suffer.
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"We calm and reassure. We embrace people with the message that we're
all in it together. That our leaders are infallible and that there is
nothing, absolutely nothing wrong." - Miles Drentell, _thirtysomething_
Newsgroups: can.general,soc.culture.canada
From: merce@xenitec.on.ca (Jim Mercer)
Subject: Re: Tragedy at concordia and a net-proposal to prevent furthur incidents
Organization: XeniTec Consulting, Kitchener, Ontario, CANADA
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 14:15:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.044750.21601@bcrka451.bnr.ca> nadeau@bnr.ca (Rheal Nadeau) writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.022918.28060@mks.com> chris@mks.com (Chris Retterath) writes:
>>Here where I live the nearest police are >30minutes drive away.
>>We have long guns for vermin control (groundhogs, rabid skunks, stray dogs
>>in with the sheep), and for 'peace of mind' in case of two-legged vermin :-)
>
>Note the word "handgun" above.  I accept that long guns are often
>useful, and much less likely to be abused.  (This is a change from my
>position of a couple of years ago.)

i think if you watch the news more closely, you will see that far more crimes
are committed with long guns than hand guns.

it is a pity that when a news cast talks about a convience store hold up
done with a sawed off shotgun, the poster behind the announcer shows a
handgun.

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Xref: sparky can.general:4398 can.politics:6621 soc.culture.canada:6430
From: hans@Software.Mitel.COM (Hans Johnsen)
Newsgroups: can.general
Subject: Re: Applicants for seminar to Indonesia
Date: 14 Sep 92 11:58:16 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

cmartin@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:
>nation.  The seminar will take place in Indonesia next June/July
                                         ^^^^^^^^^

Will they be visiting East Timor?
-- 
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and firing an Uzi, and terrified citizens will phone the police and
report: "There's a naked person outside!" - Mike Nichols
Xref: sparky can.general:4382 soc.culture.canada:6413
From: robert@isgtec.com (Robert Osborne)
Newsgroups: can.general,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Justifications for owning guns?
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:19:48 GMT

masonp@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Peter Mason) writes:
> [A great deal of supposition and biased opinion presented as fact.]

You either know very little about gun control issues or are lying
to further your rather obvious agenda.

These issues are discussed in great depth in talk.politics.guns.
I would suggest that anyone interested read that group for a while.

Rob.
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Xref: sparky can.general:4413 can.politics:6655 soc.culture.canada:6455
From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: can.general,can.politics,soc.culture.canada
Subject: How about some polling?
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 05:39:17 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

An idea:  Gallup, Reid and others polls the population on contemporary issues.

Why not us as Canadians do some polling of our own.  Anyone can do it.

If we want, a separate newsgroup for this discussion.

a proposal to think about.

Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
Treaty of Maastricht, synonymous with the Key to Armageddon.
Newsgroups: can.general,can.politics,soc.culture.canada
From: CZ94 <CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: Re: Lower and upper Canadas
Organization: McGill University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 13:53:49 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.213428.7721@bcrka451.bnr.ca> nadeau@bnr.ca (Rheal Nadeau) writes:
>
>One of the conditions of capitulation, for Napoleon, involved his
>ceding to England one of France's colonies:  Canada, or St. Pierre &
>Miquelon.  Napoleon chose to keep the islands over Canada, which was
>considered to be nothing more than "quelques arpents de neige"
>(Voltaire).
>
I believe the choice that France had at the conclusion of the Seven
Years War (1763, long before Napoleon) was between Canada and
Guadeloupe.

>The idea that Quebec was invaded supposes that Quebec existed as an
>independent entity - it didn't.  Quebec fell into English possession
>not at the Plains of Abraham, but on the battlefields and negociation
>tables of Europe.  (And, if I remember my history correctly, the
>British victory at the Plains of Abraham was short-lived, since they
>were later defeated in another battle with the French, leaving France
>still in control of Nouvelle-France.)

Not really.  It's true that the French won the Battle of Ste-Foy in
early 1760, but the British just retreated within the walls of Quebec
to await the arival of the Royal Navy when the St. Lawrence became
navigable in the spring.  Montreal fell to Amherst without a fight
soon afterward, and the war was essentially over in North America
(3 years earlier than in Europe).

Tom Box
CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA

Xref: sparky can.general:4451 soc.culture.canada:6550
From: cthorne@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Charles E Thorne)
Newsgroups: can.general,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Bigger worries than which lane to drive in
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:18:18 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University

In article <92Sep10.120646edt.47918@neat.cs.toronto.edu> mstede@cs.toronto.edu (Manfred Stede) writes:
>cthorne@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Charles E Thorne) writes:

>>In article <9SEP199218280179@jetson.uh.edu> schieber@jetson.uh.edu (Schieber, Jay D.) writes:

>>Speaking as an outsider, it's difficult to imagine economic union without
>>political union.  It seems that trying to send goods and services across
>>present national borders with the numerous regulations of each country to
>>comply with is an economic waste.  It seems that much of the opposition to
>>union (either political or economic) is the politicians.  Why in Europe does
>>one need to make 30 different light bulbs to satisfy each country when one
>>would do just as well?

>While you're outside of Europe, you're in the midst of what will soon be 
>the largest free trade zone in the world, yet none of the three countries
>involved is seriously considering a political union.

The NAFTA is probably different than either Europe or Southeast Asia (Japan,
Hong Kong, etc.).  A large amount of trading now goes across the U.S., Canadian
border and Mexico also is engaged in a lot of "free trade".  Europe, on the
other hand has long term ethnic differences that encourage politicians to
make the difficulties of crossing borders (either in person, or by sending
goods) as difficult as possible.

I would also question whether NAFTA is bigger than EC or the possible Southeast
Asia free trade area which will probably develop soon (if Europe succeeds in
totally excluding Asian imports, the Asians will need to trade among themselves
more).

Charlie
Newsgroups: can.general,can.politics,soc.culture.canada
From: nadeau@bnr.ca (Rheal Nadeau)
Subject: Re: Lower and upper Canadas
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 03:28:32 GMT

In article <dqq-lc#@engin.umich.edu> marky@engin.umich.edu (Mark Anthony Young) writes:
>nadeau@bnr.ca (Rheal Nadeau) writes:
>>Aye, time for a history lesson (from someone who has no busines giving
>>history lessons.  What year did Champlain settle in Quebec?  Uh, 1908?
>>:-) )
>>
>While you're out by 300 years here, you actually got within about half
>a century in the rest of your article.... :->

Uh, for Napoleon, read Louis XV.  That's what I meant - the Napoleon
bit was just a typo!  :-)

While I goofed badly on the chronology, I did get the broad lines right.
There was no such thing as Quebec then, only Nouvelle France, a colony
of France with no autonomy of its own.  As a result of the 7 Year War
(thanks, Mark), this colony went from French control to English control.

The Rhealist - Rheal Nadeau - nadeau@bnr.ca - Speaking only for myself
Newsgroups: can.general
From: "clive morgan" <clive.morgan@canrem.com>
Subject: adventurer(s) wanted
Reply-To: "clive morgan" <clive.morgan@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: can
Date: 13 Sep 92 11:11:57 EST

This is a repost (forgot to add my USENET site address).

I am due to be laid off approx. April 1993, at which time I will be
using my severance package to fulfill a lifelong dream of mine, viz:-
I will be camping on the mountain-sides of South Wales (UK) for approx.
1 year - I grew up in this area, and this will be my only chance to ever
fulfill this dream/fantasy of mine. The streams there are pure &
plentiful in fish (brown trout), whilst the valleys (and mountain tops
to some extent) harbor several species of wild fruit and nuts. Whilst it
is very rugged where I plan to be camping, the valleys are fairly
accessible (3-4 hrs walk), and civilization is only a 4-5 hrs walk away
in case of emergency.

If anybody is interested in joining me on this journey, I am willing to
accept up to 2 persons (male or female) - I already have one female
lined up to accompany me, so please leave me mail if you are interested.

Before I forget (again), my site address is :_
     CLIVE.MORGAN@CANREM.COM
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Newsgroups: can.general,sfu.general,sfu.grad,soc.culture.canada
From: nitish@cs.sfu.ca (Nitish Mandal)
Subject: Sahaj Yoga
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 01:56:22 GMT

 
SHRI MATAJI TO TOUR NORTH AMERICA
---------------------------------

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, founder of Sahaja Yoga, will be touring
the U.S. and Canada during September. She will be offering free 
lectures on self-realization and the "Sahaja Yoga experience." Her 
itinerary includes visits to New York, Cincinnati, Toronto, Vancouver, 
Seattle, and Los Angeles.

Shri Mataji believes that world peace and collective consciousness can
be achieved only through the inner transformation of human beings. Her
system of meditation, Sahaja Yoga, manifests a subtle energy. This is 
experienced as vibrations which are felt on the central nervous system
and lead to greater awareness and deeper intuition. Rather than requiring 
a "leap of faith," it is an actual experience of the integration of our 
physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual being. It thus brings about 
complete balance and inner peace. By bringing together people of all 
religious, ethnic, and social backgrounds, she has proven that the human 
bond is more than skin deep and that all ideologies are encompassed by 
the same universal values and truths.


PUBLIC PROGRAM SCHEDULE
-----------------------

New York


New York
Tuesday, September 8th, 7 pm.
Terrace on the Park
5211 Flushing Meadow Park
Queens
Info: (914) 636-4406

New York
Wednesday, September 9th
United Nations
U.N. Personnel only

Cincinnati
Thursday, September 10th, 7:30 pm.
Eden Park
Seasongood Pavilion
Info: (513) 563-0584

Toronto
Friday, September 11th, 7 pm.
Rosedale Heights Secondary School
711 Bloor St. East
Info: (416) 614-9521 or (416) 614-7338

Vancouver
Sunday, September 13th, 7 pm.
Robson Square Media Center
Info: (604) 850-7475 or (604) 261-0203

Seattle
Monday, September 14th, 7:30 pm.
Seattle Center, North Hall
Info: (206) 771-9063

Los Angeles
Wednesday, September 16th, 7 pm.
Ebell of Los Angeles Theatre
743 South Lucerne Blvd. at Wilshire


743 South Lucerne Blvd. at Wilshire
Info: (818) 344-9642


        A l l   P r o g r a m s   F r e e
        _ _ _   _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _   _ _ _ _




For more information about these upcoming programs or Sahaja Yoga 
in general, call the local information numbers given above.


:wq

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Newsgroups: can.general,soc.culture.canada
From: janick@bcrkd13.bnr.ca (Janick Bergeron)
Subject: Re: Justifying guns
Reply-To: janick@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Timing Verification Group
Distribution: can
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:35:08 GMT

Oh no! Just as the eternal (&^*&^&^$%&^%$^%)(*^&^% debate on
speeding/left-lane hogs had died in these newsgroups, here comes
the )*&*^&^%^&^&%*&&*^&% debate on guns/no-guns.

If you want to discuss the details on gun-control laws as they
apply here in Canada, fine. But go discuss whether such laws are
good/no-good in rec.guns !!!!!!!

[I'll stop typing while my breathing resturns to its normal rate]

Ok. I'm calm now. Back to the fight between Denis & Dave already
in progress....

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From: robert@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Robert Meunier)
Newsgroups: can.francais
Subject: Re: Radio-Canada en anglais?
Date: 14 Sep 92 12:26:19 GMT
Reply-To: robert@ireq.hydro.qc.ca
Organization: Hydro-Quebec (IREQ)

In article 24714@bcrka451.bnr.ca, nadeau@bnr.ca (Rheal Nadeau) writes:
> Et
>comment traduit-on en francais le dialogue d'un francais parlant mal
>l'anglais?  Ca pourrait etre drole a voir!)
>

	On fait parler un anglais en francais!


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From: steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter)
Newsgroups: can.francais
Subject: Re: Francophones nationally oppressed on basis of language
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:16:28 GMT
Distribution: can
Organization: Securiplex Technologies Inc., Montreal, Canada
X-Bytes: 1648

From article <1992Sep8.100939.8495@spxtech.qc.ca>, by steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter):
> From article <Bu2rxB.6nK@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca>, by bghauk@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Brian):
>> The following article appeared as a special feature in the May 1989 issue
>> of Lutte ouvriere, a magazine now called L'internationaliste. It explains
>> that many Qubcois are demanding a referendum on sovereignty because
>> francophones in Canada are victims of a system of discrimination and
>> oppression. Apparently, the internet mailer will eliminate French
>> accents.
>> 
>> [article deleted]
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> I've typed-in about half of Michel's Lutte ouvri
>> re article, and encourage
>> anyone interested in reading the rest or similar articles to contact the
>> nearest Pathfinder Bookstore.
>> 
>> In Montreal, call (514)273-2503. In Toronto, their number is (416)533-4324.
>> 
>> Most importantly, ask them about the Militant newsweekly and their public
>> political meetings called Militant Labor Forums.
> 
> Do they have exposes on infiltration of Earth by aliens in human form and
> government coverups thereof too? :-)
> 

Est-ce qu'ils ont des expose sur l'infiltration de La Terre par des
etranger du forme humaine et les 'coverups' du gouvernement de ceux la?
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From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
Newsgroups: can.francais,can.politics
Subject: Re: On parle joual
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:36:27 GMT
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

In article <92Sep04.025305.19726@acs.ucalgary.ca> bauwens@acs.ucalgary.ca (Luc Bauwens) writes:
>In article <BttLLr.MDr@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard) writes:
>>>
>>Non, ca c'est la capotte.  Pas vraiment la meme chose.
>
>Interesting.  Where I come from, une capotte (or is it with one t only?)
>means a condom...
>
>Pas vraiment la meme chose non plus...
>
>LB

D'accord.  Je ne suis pas un athlete, alors, je ne connaissais pas 
le cop.  J'y suis alle au plus "pres" (phonetiquement et physiquement).
Desole de m'etre gourre (goure?).

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From: robert@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Robert Meunier)
Newsgroups: can.francais
Subject: Re: Parlez-vous l'Esperanto?
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:12:09 GMT
Reply-To: robert@ireq.hydro.qc.ca
Organization: Hydro-Quebec (IREQ)

In article 19896@sol.UVic.CA, phopkins@sol.UVic.CA (Paul Hopkins) writes:
>Pourquoi ?				Kial ?
>Pour apprendre l'Espe'ranto, bien su^r!	Por lerni Esperanton, kompreneble!
>

Cela ne me dit quel serait l'interet d'apprendre l'esperanto. Qui est-ce qui
parle cette langue (Ici, je presume que l'esperanto n'est pas l'espagnole!).



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