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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:51:06 -0500 
From: Karin Brennan <kb4c+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: GL:Get on with it & other gripes. 

WARNING: IT'S BEEN A LONG WEEK, AND THIS POST CONTAINS MAJOR-TO THE AC
MALLOT LEVEL- GRIPING.

   I think someone had it right early when they  suggested November to
be sweeps month, .I can find no other reason why the people at GL won't
get on with it.  They began all of these wonderful story lines and then
just stopped.   I think the reason absolutely NOTHING is happening with
AM-E-F story line is there is too much happening with AM, and they want
to blow everything at once. It looks like today is the day too.

  Character's keep repeating the same exact lines over and over. From
August to September we listened to Whiney Girl say "What is wrong AM?"
and " I know you are hiding something from me," and now we have spent a
2 months listening to  her say, " But I do not love him, Frankey."  
I'll go on.   Bridgitte, " We're gonna get caught Nadine." Holly, "
How's your BOYfriend?"  AM, "I'm never gonna let you go" . You get the
picture. 

     Another gripe I have is the writers idea of the 'good guy.' We've
been made to endure Lilian's tramping around while still being portrayed
as Springfield's Florence Nightengale.  And Ed!  Where shall I begin? 
Springfield's own savior is a recovered alchoholic, has an illegitimate
child, is divorced-what-3 or 4 times at least, and he is STILL screwing
around.  He makes Roger look like 'Leave it to Beaver'.  Then there's
Mallot who is always barking at someone.  I don't even want to talk
about Ross.

   And one final Gripe, if you can stand to read anymore of this.  I
cannot believe yesterday's show when they portrayed AM as a victim.  You
know Harley Believes him, and Nick as well.  This is TOTALLY out of left
field considering what a heartless slime he's been this whole time.  Do
they really expect me to feel bad for him after he's kidnapped Muzette. 
Even if they write Muz. as still being alive AM did expected her to live
the rest of her life as his prisoner.  Can Springfield really forgive
that 'cause that's what it looks like the writer's are building us up
for.  Oh, just let him catch the bullet, pleeeeeezzzz!  And
NOOOOOOOOOoooo, not a Coooooommmmaaaaaa! (I'm whining)
Enough!

     I lied, this is the last gripe. (and a petty one at that)  Have you
ever noticed Eleni's   accent when she says "can't"?  She reminds me of
'Lena Lamont' in "Singing in the Rain" when she say's "I Kyant Stan
'em!"  Maybe I'm crazy.  I  have only known a handful of Greeks in my
lifetime. 

-Karin
p.s. good call to whoever predicted bullet diving by AM earlier this week.

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From: Joanna L. Castillo <pefv702@perv.pe.utexas.edu>
Subject: DOOL: Friday update note
X-Xxdate: Mon, 16 Nov 92 16:05:39 GMT
Organization: UT Petroleum Engineering Dept.
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 15:18:24 GMT

Hi, folks -

Sorry but I'm running late with the "in depth" update for this past
Friday (Nov. 13).  I'll try to have it out tomorrow or Wednesday but
can't promise anything.

Anyway, here's a quick update of what happened:

Marcus was on!!

Oh, okay...sheesh...some other stuff happened as well.  :)

Roman came out of his surgery in pretty bad shape but regained 
consciousness enough to tell Bo that Marlena is in Washington and can't
be reached.  He then fell into a coma.  This is the story that involved
Marcus!  :)

Marlena tried to climb out of the pit but fell and lapsed into
unconsciousness.  John checked out the warehouse she's in as a possible
site for relocating Ecosystems and she heard him and started yelling 
but he couldn't hear her over the noise of nearby construction.  

Viv tried to flee to Brazil with Nikki but Lawrence found out about it
and dragged Carly to the airport to stop Viv.  Lawrence and Viv got 
into a shouting match at the airport and Viv fainted.  When she came 
to, Lawrence sent her home.  Carly lit into him about being so cruel to
Viv and he blurt out the news that Nikki is their child.  She didn't 
believe him, of course.

Meanwhile, J&J (along with Tom, Alice, Jo, Julie, Bill, and Bo) were at
the church waiting for Carly so they could christen Abigail.  Before 
they went to the church, Jack found a manuscript called "Desperate 
Secrets" or something in one of the boxes from the attic.  He seemed to
be intrigued by the manuscript but had to put it aside to go to the 
church.  The box it was in was marked "confidential papers -- keep out"
or some such.

Joanna.

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From: n8243057@henson.cc.wwu.edu (NSFosberg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Sightings
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:37:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Nov16.213748.25877
Organization: Western Washington University

i didn't catch 'likely suspects', but was that Jo lusting after Warf
on Star Trek: Next Generation in the latest episode? the miss kitty
equivalent in alexander's holo-deck program?

-=nsf=-
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From: jbeason@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Joseph E. Beason)
Subject: Re: SIS: who's the oldest?
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:14:05 GMT

AAAAAAAHHHHH!!!

Alex, then Teddy, then Georgie, then Frankie.

In the flashbacks, young Alex is just starting colege 9approximately,
I realize they drift), Teddy's vaguely high school, Georgie is
definitely younger (just hitting puberty?), and Frankie's the baby.

Their birthorder was stated at some point.  Their kids also follow the
order, with Alex's daughter being just a year or so older than Kat (Cat?),
and Gorgie's boys being the youngest.  Oops, almost-youngest.
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Monday, 23 Nov 1992 09:22:57 MST
From: <IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Head Wound Roman

Sweet Sis Pickle inquires:
>
>So anyway, this brings me to the point of my beef.  I think
>it was Abe that made the point that the bullet did not enter
>Head Wound's (tm) skull...so how is it that he could have
>gone into a coma?  They said he got shot in the back of the
>head...not the neck, not the eyeball, not the mouth, not the
>ear, not the mama, (oops, thinking about "Dinosaurs") so where
>exactly was he shot?  Now, I am not going to pretend to know
>anything about head trauma...but it would seem to me that
>since the bullet did not penetrate the skull, that is would
>be just a plain old "flesh wound."  Am I totally missing
>something????
>
Pickle, head wounds/injuries are tricky things.  My son got two
minor concussions in a little over three days a few months ago.
The first one he got by being kicked in the head.  The second
one was by getting hit (again in the head) by a rolled up news-
paper.  I guess because of the first injury the second one didn't
need much impact to create the concussion.

Of course, another of my sons had a concussion when he fell
and hit his head on the railroad tracks.  I think alot of it
depends on the circumstances and the health of the person
involved.  Hope this help clear some of this up just a little
bit.

A realizing that having four boys does come in handy sometimes Quince

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From: gillon@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Y & R Ashley
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:53:38 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

In article <1992Nov23.225127.22407@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>, CLAYDON@vm.ucs.UAlberta.CA writes:
> 
> I have a question. Ashley likes to go on about how Niki has ruined alot of
> lives because she couldn't decide who she wanted to be with. Well isn't the
> reason Victor and Niki had problems was because Victor was sleeping with
> Ashley. Victor was married to Niki when he bought her the cabin, which she
> doesn't use anymore.  Victor was married to Niki when Ashley became prego
> with his baby. So if she were to step back and take a good look, she is one
> totalk about Niki ruining alot of lives.
> Niki tried for years to get Ashley out of Victor's life. BUT when Victor called
> Ashley jumped.
> SO gives a break Ashley, you are no better then Niki.
> Personally I like both charactor, but I just can't stand the way Ashley feels
> she has the right to blame Niki for the mess with Victoria
> If Ashley was never in the picture, Niki and Victor may still be married
> I personally like Niki and Jack, as a couple. Jack cares for Niki and only has
> eyes for her, unlike Victor who has slept around quite a bit.
> Feel free to correct me if I am wrong about the past going on's but I was sure
> Victor left Niki because of Ashley.


------>Well, if you remember, when Nikki found out about Victor and 
ashley, she also found out from her sister the doctor that she had a 
terminal disease. the disease went into remission but she never told 
victor so that he would stay with her. and guess who helped her with 
this little plot because he hated victor so much....jack. so therefore 
when victor found out that nikki was faking it he got pissed and left 
her. that left victor with ashley and nikki with jack. of course, 
somewhere in that time frame nikki got pregnant with nicholas and so 
victor had to move in for a while. we saw how long that lasted.
From: chris@eso.mc.xerox.com (Chris Heiny)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: GH: Tiff playing with a full deck?
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:18:47 GMT
Reply-To: chris@eso.mc.xerox.com
Organization: Xerox

Anyone else think Tiffany is going to be GH's new token loony?  With Dr
Stalker appparently dead, Nikki out of a contract (and she hadn't
acted particularly loopy since the end of the trial and the arrival of
Doc Stalk), Cheryl gone & buried, they don't have a resident crazy person.
I think they're setting up Tiff to take over the part, at least for a little
while.  She definitely was out of touch on Fryday.

						Chris
From: uttla@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Laura Utt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Am I the only one???
Date: 17 Nov 92 04:01:25 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

alex@unx.sas.com (Alexandra Bost) writes:
>ilene@spss.com (Ilene France) writes:
>>In article <20885@fritz.filenet.com> bartosch@fritz.filenet.com (Diane M. Bartosch) writes:

>You forgot, "I Love You!"  "I Hate You!" "I Can't Live Without You!"
>  "I Never Want to See You Again!" kiss, kiss, kiss....  :-)

>You know, in just ONE year, Dimitri has:

>  * slept with Nat
>  * slept with Angelique
>  * slept with Erica

>hmmmmmmmm.  And the writers want us to think Dixie is a "slut"????
>  

>Alex

>...I wonder if Dimitri owns the condom factory in Budapest....  :)
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One thing that I really can't stand is that all of the things
that Erica has said about Dim, are just repeats of Jack, Travis,
etc....  How DOES she KNOW it is the REAL thing??? Humm?? I am
soo bored with this story line that I haven't been watching for
a while. Just off and on... Off when Dim and E are on.

-Laura
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From: faa@athena.cs.wayne.edu (Felicitas A. Atabong)
Subject: Re: ATWT: meg/iva/error/lily
Organization: Wayne State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:37:20 GMT

In article <199211171528.AA67396@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU> Lois Therese Casaleggi <ltc2f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU> writes:
>i have some comments and a question thats been bothering me for a
>long time...
>
>first off, i just saw friday's show and didn't get to tape
>monday's so i don't know what's happened in the meantime, but i
>just have to say that meg is out of control! asking iva for her

I will admit that what Meg asked of Iva was rather outrageous, but now I
can understand how desperate she really is. I like Meg and sympathize
with her a great deal. I like the fact that she doesn't suck up to the
slut like the rest of the Snyder family. Ellie's abortion and the slut's
constant "giving up" of her babies sure doesn't help her situation.
>
>my second comment has confused me for a while.  i may just be
>being dense but i never saw what the HUGE deal was about keeping
>the truth from lily.  i have no doubt that news like that would
>be painful, but she already knew that holden and julie had slept
>together; holden told her everything that he knew, so it was
>julie (and other various family members) lying to her, but not
>her precious husband. i would think that mr. and mrs.
>we're-a-part-of-each-other would be able to deal with this
>together.  it's not like holden has feelings for julie that would
>make him leave lily for her, and julie had alreday given up the
>baby and it was in the snyder family.  maybe i'm just
>underestimating the protect-lily-at-all-costs attitude of these
>people.
>
I agree with you completely on this. I still don't see what kind of
protection Iva et al were trying to offer to Lily, and given your points
above, it makes the whole thing sound stupid.

Feli.

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From: debbiek@rruxc.uucp (25670s-kennedy)
Subject: Re: AMC : Edmund kidnaps Erika.
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 15:58:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.233149.25677@cs.wayne.edu>, faa@athena.cs.wayne.edu (Felicitas A. Atabong) writes:
> I may get flamed for this, but why is everyone so worried about Edmund
> kidnapping Erika? I am one of those who is convinced of the fact that he
> would not hurt her. All Edmund wants is to get to the truth. He simply
> wants to have something of Dimitri's, since he feels Dimitri had Hugo's
> body removed, and if I were Edmund, given all the evidence, I would
> believe it too. How come no one realizes this? I know Edmund has been a
> bum lately, but some of us take this parentage thing for granted. I
> simply don't really see Edmund as a criminal. In his mind, if Dimitri
> gave him Hugo's body, he'd release Erika in the wink of an eye.
> 
> Feli.

You are probably right, BUT Edmund DID cloraform Erica.
That was a very dangerous thing and now they have reason
to believe EdmundO has slipped over the edge and might
not give Erica back just for spite.  After all, Dimitri
DOES NOT have Hugo's body to give up, so now that EdmundO
won't get his way he may become more unwrapped and dangerous.
From: uttla@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Laura Utt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC: More sightings
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:53:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: leela.1992Nov18.225314.23696
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

I don't know the actresses's real names, but the ones that plays
Galen and Haley's mother (I can't even remember her name!) have 
commercials.

Galen does a butter commercial and Haley's mother does a medicine
commercial.

Has anyone else noticed them? I've seen them several times and 
seeing as people usually comment on commercials, I haven't seen
a comment on these.

-Laura
From: sasse@netcom.com (Ellen Sasse)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Tons o' action all around
Date: 18 Nov 92 11:38:47 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Netcom

mgtaylor@eos.ncsu.edu (Mary Molly G Taylor) writes: 

> >I keep flip-flopping about Dimitri's bod.  The problem is, from behind
> >he looks terrific, but from the side, he looks like he has a kangaroo
> >pouch stomach!  Ewwwww!

> I'm glad the RATS posters haven't let me down!  I agree.  Great buns,
> but too much gut.  Suck it up Dim!

I've been wondering about that. I was thinking, it looks like his back
is curved in the same way as his stomach (?) As if the small of his back
were "bigger", like this:          (well, sortof, can't really draw it right)
                           (   <
                            \   \ 

Could he have scoliosis? I don't really know how it can look, just have
read about it. Or am I just finding other ways of looking at a spare tire? :-)
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From: semele@oscar.bellcore.com (Semele Halkedis)
Subject: ATWT: Evan's HIV test
Reply-To: semele@oscar.bellcore.com (Semele Halkedis)
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 15:45:39 GMT

Was anyone as surprised as I was to see GetEven get that HIV test so
quickly?  He seemed so annoyed about it when Courtme asked him.
It seems like they're trying to make us think that even
though he's total slime (IMHO), he still really cares about Court'me.
Ha!  I'm not buying it - he's a slimy weasel.  (Does it show that I
don't like him too much?)

I wonder if he'll tell Emily and she'll get tested.  Now *there's*
someone who should worry about being infected.

GGG
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From: saj@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.suravlas)
Subject: Re: AW: grant, vickie, and ryan
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:33:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.195233.17373@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n8243057@henson.cc.wwu.edu (NSFosberg) writes:
>colleen recently wrote that spencer shouldn't be so loyal to ryan
>about vickie, that it was ryan's own fault that she is with grant and
>that grant's love for her is somehow better.
>
>well really. let's think this through. i think ryan has every right
>to still be pissed. his fiance slept with his brother, then refused to
>quit seeing him.  gee, she must be really sorry about this, so sorry she
>kept rubbing salt in ryan's wounds by running to grant every five minutes
>with some lame sob story about how misunderstood and put upon she was.
>sure ryan's gonna believe she doesn't want grant anymore.
>

I agree. What Grant and Vickey did to Ryan is unexcusable. If this was me,
I would have nothing to do with either one of them. It's irrelevant whether
or not his is my brother. I'm annoyed with Ryan because he is so inconsistent
about his relationship with the slut. He should tell Vickey and Grant to
drop dead and go on with his life - far away from Jenna. I don't
think Jensen is any better with Grant. I think both over act and are down
right horrible. Get Jensen off the show - You'd think the jerks would
get the message by now.

I missed the ending of Friday's show. Can someone tell me how the show ended.

Thanks
John



Organization: Sophomore, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:12:28 -0500 
From: Jennifer Allyson Turner <jt3j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: GH: Tiff playing with a full deck?
	<Bxtv6t.L9H@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>

>I know, let's try the old King Solomon idea to cut the kid in half and have 
>the real mother plead no.

Didn't Sean or Tony mention this idea?  I think he said, "This problem
whould take King Soloman to solve," or something to that effect.

Jenn
From: warriors@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Dave Maycon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: I need brief updates on Y & R
Date: 17 Nov 1992 21:46:58 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: warriors@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Dave Maycon)
NNTP-Posting-Host: eb5ts4.ebay.sun.com

I need someone to please give me day to day updates for the Y & R.  Since I 
started working daze, I just have been totally lost with the show.  If someone
works swing shift and has time in the day to watch it, I would sure appreciate
it if you can take a couple of minutes a day and give me a brieft description
of the     goings on.  The only way I get updates are by reading the Saturday
newspaper that gives a really brief storyline for that week.  This is not
cutting it.  Eversince my now ex-girlfriend got me addicted to this show
a couple years ago, I just gotta have it.

Thanks a really really lot
really

Dave
From: gibbsm@ll.mit.edu (MargAret D. Gibbs)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: ALL: Soaps into separate newsgroups
Date: 21 Nov 92 16:47:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab, Lexington, MA

In article <1ejhqoINN6im@male.EBay.Sun.COM> warriors@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Dave Maycon) writes:
>How can Read News be changed to making each individual soap into seperate
>newsgroups.  I think it would be easier just to put our little two cents
>into our favorite newsgroup.  Why don't someone take the time out and
>do everyone a favor

In article <1992Nov20.220913.16782@nas.nasa.gov> harding@sun444.nas.nasa.gov (Steve Harding) writes:
>Here we go again.  Marg...Is this a part of the FAQ?

Yes, it is part of the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions list), which is
posted monthly.  It was last posted at the end of October, and will be
posted again near the end of this month.  I have sent the relevent section
to Dave Maycon, and will also post a mini-FAQ on that topic this Monday.
My thanks to Joanna Castillo and Cindy Camp for writing a comprehensive
answer to this oft-asked question!

For those of you who can't wait until Monday to read the answer, 
you can retrieve the entire soaps-FAQ using anonymous ftp or email 
(if you don't have ftp access or don't know what ftp is :-)).  It 
is available thru anon ftp from pit-manager.mit.edu under 
/pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/soaps/faq, or send email to 
mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu with
"send /pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/soaps/faq" (no quotes) in the 
body of the message. 


-- 
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Assistant Staff	                 senseless acts of beauty"
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
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From: faa@athena.cs.wayne.edu (Felicitas A. Atabong)
Subject: AMC : Edmund kidnaps Erika.
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit, MI
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:31:49 GMT

I may get flamed for this, but why is everyone so worried about Edmund
kidnapping Erika? I am one of those who is convinced of the fact that he
would not hurt her. All Edmund wants is to get to the truth. He simply
wants to have something of Dimitri's, since he feels Dimitri had Hugo's
body removed, and if I were Edmund, given all the evidence, I would
believe it too. How come no one realizes this? I know Edmund has been a
bum lately, but some of us take this parentage thing for granted. I
simply don't really see Edmund as a criminal. In his mind, if Dimitri
gave him Hugo's body, he'd release Erika in the wink of an eye.

Feli.
From: hav1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Helen A Vydra)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Carrieheraway?
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:32:15 GMT
Reply-To: hav1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Helen A Vydra)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Nov16.064152.21966@panix.com> spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira) writes:
>Rumor has it that Tracy Middendorf, or whatever her name is (Carrie),
>has been canned.  No word yet about the character.
>
>Greg 


Yah, yah, yah, yah, yah, yah, yah !!!!!

-Helen