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From:         Nick G Carter <ng_carter@CCMAIL.PNL.GOV>
Subject:      Re[2]: PROQUEST v4.0 Installations...

Nicholas Roselli says:

>First, the thing is just too hideously slow for our low-end ps/2's.  Always
>frustrating when a company takes a usable search interface and "upgrades"
>it to make it unusable.

You didn't mention which model your PS/2s are, but Sigma Data specializes in
upgrade processors for PS/2s.  Upgrades to 33MHz 386SX w/ 64Kb cache for 50s and
60s: $335; 50z to same: $335; 25s and 30 to same: $335. You can also get package
prices if you want to upgrade your memory and drive at the same time.  It is
sometimes easier to get funding for upgrades than buying new computers.  These
CPU upgrades increase speed by 3x.   Sigma Data
                                     1-800-446-4525
                                     New London, NH

Nick Carter
Systems Admin.
Hanford Technical Library
Battelle Pac. NW Lab
Richland WA
ng_carter@pnl.gov
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From:         Angus Orde <A.Orde@LEEDS-METROPOLITAN.AC.UK>
Subject:      Times and SCSI Express

I am having problems with mounting the Times CD under SCSI Express.

Basically, it will not mount, claiming that there are multiple files of the
same name.

I sent off an old copy to my SCSI Express supplier, and he told me that there
are 3 copies of a file on the CD, and SCSI Express will not mount it. This is
strange, but seems to apply only to recent versions of the Times, as I
evaluated SCSI Express a year ago, and the Times was a CD that worked for me
then.

The only thing I could think of is that the file is intended for Macs as well
as PCs and the files are normally not visible to DOS. The Times works fine
stand-alone.

I have tried everything I can think of, to no avail. The one person I have
managed to talk to from the Times had no idea at all. No help.

Any suggestions would be gratefully welcomed.

Cheers,

Angus
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From:         lw_flw@LEWIS.UMT.EDU
Subject:      OPH SCSI Express

I am considering buying a built-in Sony CD-Rom Drive with a new
486 server using Novell 3.11

I would like to use Micro Design's SCSI Express software, but they
say I need the version of their software called OPH SCSI Express.

OPH SCSI Express is new to me.  Do you have any comments about
this software used with drives not sold by Micro Design?

Thanks.  LW_FLW@lewis.umt.edu
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From:         solrccc@GSVMS2.CC.GASOU.EDU
Subject:      Re: adding more than 42 cd driv

Thanks to MDI for the reply to my question about adding additional drives
to our current system.  I didn't mean to imply that SCSI Express was the
limiting factor to adding more than 42 drives to my current system.  I
understand the  limitations but perhaps it was worth stating for the sake
of the list.  I suppose the real question I wanted to ask was:

is there another hardware solution other than purchasing a third server?

------------------------  Original message
-------------------------------------

>The limitations you are running into are limits of your hardware not of
>SCSI Express.   The number of CD-ROM drives that SCSI Express can support
>for a particular server can be calculated by taking the number of SCSI
>Host Adapters the server can support  times 7 CD-ROM drives per SCSI Host
>Adapter.
>
> With an ISA Bus machine you are limited in the number of host adapters
>(approx4) due to DMA, IRQ, and port addressing.  With an EISA Bus machine
>you can support more adapters, upto 6 (maybe 7) depending on the EISA
>Machine.  Therefore with 6 SCSI Adapters and 7 CD-ROM drives you can get
>42 CD-ROMs on an EISA server.  Give our technical support department a
>call at  407-677-8333 for more information.
>
>- Arnold Jones
>  Micro Design International, Inc.
>  arnold@microdes.mhs.compuserve.com
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From:         Arnold Jones <ARNOLD@MICRODES.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Re: OPH SCSI Express

>I would like to use Micro Design's SCSI Express software, but they
>say I need the version of their software called OPH SCSI Express.
>
>OPH SCSI Express is new to me.  Do you have any comments about
>this software used with drives not sold by Micro Design?

The actual name for this version is "SCSI Express with Extended Hardware
Support".  The Micro Design part number is SE-NX3.  This software for
NetWare 3.11 will support non Micro Design hardware.

- Arnold Jones
  Micro Design International, Inc.
  arnold@microdes.mhs.compuserve.com
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From:         Arnold Jones <ARNOLD@MICRODES.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Times and SCSI Express

>I am having problems with mounting the Times CD under SCSI Express.
>
>Basically, it will not mount, claiming that there are multiple files of
the
>same name.
>
>I sent off an old copy to my SCSI Express supplier, and he told me that
there
>are 3 copies of a file on the CD, and SCSI Express will not mount it.
This is
>strange, but seems to apply only to recent versions of the Times, as I
>evaluated SCSI Express a year ago, and the Times was a CD that worked
for me
>then.

The problem you are running into is MAC file names which through
truncation cause duplicate files names under NetWare.  With SCSI Express
1.3.0. which will be available in March, this problem is solved in that
we now support MAC name space on Novell.

- Arnold Jones
  Micro Design International, Inc.
  arnold@microdes.mhs.compuserve.com
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From:         "NICHOLAS ROSSELLI (219)980-6929" <ROSSELLI@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: PROQUEST v4.0 Installations...

I started out this week installing the software as a stand-alone.  On the
whole I thought that the software installed pretty well but there are
two glaring problems...
First, the thing is just too hideously slow for our low-end ps/2's.  Always
frustrating when a company takes a usable search interface and "upgrades"
it to make it unusable.
The second problem is a bit more pronounced, and apparently few people
have stumbled across it yet.  Having installed it, I asked another
librarian for a search topic to test it out.  Their suggestion was
"family owned businesses".
(Note: I had set the options to include plurals and variants.)
I ran the search as "family owned business" - a search which returned
@311 on the last update of ABI/Inform.  The new version returned 49!
I little tinkering revealed that you found another 295 records if you
searched using "family owned businesses".  A couple of other searches
seemed to confirm that UMI has forgotten to tell the software about
plurals that use "es"....<sigh>

Nicholas Rosselli
rosselli@ucs.indiana.edu
rosselli@iubacs.bitnet
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From:         "Timothy D. Dugdale" <libtdd@GSUSGI2.GSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: PROQUEST v4.0 Installations...
              Jan 21, 93 10:14:12 am

REgarding the exclusion of plurals, has anyone contacted UMI?  If not
I will be glad to, as I have a couple questions myself.

Peace,


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From:         William Alexander <alfb9@CENTRAL.SUSSEX.AC.UK>
Subject:      Networking Window based CDROMs with Optinet

Can anyone offer advice on how to manage Window based CDROMs on an
Optinet network?
Our LIN (Library information Network) offers access, for staff and
users,  to networked databases such as CDROMs, BIDs (Citation Indexes),
Library Catalogues etc via a Microsoft Windows interface.
For DOS based CDROMs such as Psyclit invoking the Psyclit icon will start a
batch file. This  will run the onet command to open the CDROM on the CD
server, run the retrieval software from the file server close down the
disc on the cd server and return to windows.

For Window based CDROMs we can either:

1> Run a batch file which will open the CDROM,run windows, select the
icon to run the retrieval software, exit windows and close the cdrom on
the server. This approach precludes any other CDROMs being run.

2>      Use the Optinet WONET program. While both DOS and Window CDROMs
could be managed this way asking the user to use WONET first to open the
disk then invoke the icon for the retrieval software and finally run the
WONET again to close the CDROM is impractical. We also find that WONET
frequently crashes. Maybe WONET in Optinet 2.x is more robust?

My quest is to find an automatic process to handle the optinet
operations and the retrieval software using a single icon. Can anyone help?

Our setup is:

NOVELL  3.11
OPTINET 1.3
WINDOWS 3.1
MSDOS   5

CD SERVER
Research Machines 80286 PC with 4MB expanded memory linked to 32 Hitachi
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From:         "Gerald A. Smith" <gsmith@GUNTER-EMH.AF.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Good books for a new administrator
              93 5:31 pm

A good set of products for learning LANs, and also CD-ROM networks, is Ziff
Computer Library series on CD-ROM. Computer Select has articles from hundreds of
 magazines (including LAN Times) which are easy to find by topic. Support on
 Site has information on products and specifics on handling problems, or how to
 do  things. Perhaps
 the best for what you are looking for would be Techs. It is     especially for
 networks and has dozens of articles on Novell. The standalone    subscription
 price (12 issues/yr) for each of these CD-ROMs is $995. The network version is
 $4995. We currentl
y use Computer Select and have found it well worth the expense.

Gerald Smith
gsmith@gunter-emh.af.mil
"No matter how many times I try, my Sony audio CD player just won't do Grolier's
 Encyclopedia."

>
> Hello everyone,
>
> Last week I was informed that, effective immediately, I was the new
> administrator for the department CD-ROM network. As you can imagine,
> I have been scrambling to get a handle on the elements of LANs and
> their administration. A colleague suggested this list.
>
> My questions are the following:
>
> Can anyone suggest a few good books on learning and using Novell?
> (we have version 3.11 for 20 users)
>
> Can anyone also suggest a better book on LANs; hardware and/or sofware?
> (we're not talking rocket science, but I do know my way to the launch
>  pad.)
>
> What is the title of the best journal covering LANs and (dare I dream)
> libraries?
>
>
> Any and all information supplied will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Please respond to me directly. (Thanks)
>
> Ed Lomax
> Information Services Librarian
> University of Illinois at Chicago
> Library of the Health Sciences
> Internet: U60008@UICVM.UIC.EDU
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From:         "D.E. 'Dave' Bloomberg" <BLOOMBER@FAUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: adding a third tower to cd-connection

    Hi,

    We will be adding our 3rd 21 drive CDServer very shortly (CBIS
    v2.20C).  I would think that as long as we can keep our
    re-directions from crossing servers to much, performance should
    not be affected since the number of users is staying the same.

    Currently we have a few databases "cross-servered" due to slot
    availability shortages.  This seems to slow things down a little,
    but not as much as the fact that we have mixed the Hitachi 1503's
    with our new Texel players.  Our third server will be all texel's.
    That should insure maximum performance.

    If everybody goes after all different databases all at once, the
    server will still only reply on a first-come --> first served
    basis.

    Dave Bloomberg
    BLOOMBER@FAUVAX
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From:         Arnold Jones <ARNOLD@MICRODES.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Re: adding more than 42 cd driv

>I currently have a 42 cd rom drive system, Novell 3.11, two 486i
>processors, SCSI Express.  I'd like to add more drives to the system.  I
>understand that I can get a few more, but would need a third server if I
>plan on 20 more drives.
>
>Is there a better way than managing three servers each with 21+ drives?
I
>certainly don't want to scrap what I have, it's only 9 months old!  But
I'm
>wondering if I have to buy a new server if I should be looking at a
system
>that would allow for future qrowth.

The limitations you are running into are limits of your hardware not of
SCSI Express.   The number of CD-ROM drives that SCSI Express can support
for a particular server can be calculated by taking the number of SCSI
Host Adapters the server can support  times 7 CD-ROM drives per SCSI Host
Adapter.

 With an ISA Bus machine you are limited in the number of host adapters
(approx4) due to DMA, IRQ, and port addressing.  With an EISA Bus machine
you can support more adapters, upto 6 (maybe 7) depending on the EISA
Machine.  Therefore with 6 SCSI Adapters and 7 CD-ROM drives you can get
42 CD-ROMs on an EISA server.  Give our technical support department a
call at  407-677-8333 for more information.

- Arnold Jones
  Micro Design International, Inc.
  arnold@microdes.mhs.compuserve.com
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Subject:      PC Life Expectancy

Is anyone aware of any studies done on the life expectancy of PCs in a
school or library setting?
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Subject: Re: Proquest 4.0 Searchware
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:17:00 GMT
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Regarding the message on Proquest 4.0 in which there was a tremendous
slowdown with several concurrent users doing a boolean search, I tested our
system this morning.  I used eight workstations and did one of the problem
searches noted in the earlier message.  We did not show a slowdown in
performance.  We are using a DEC Infoserver on a Novell network.  Most
of the workstations are 386SX's but 3 are 286's.  The 286's do get a
warning message that there may be memory problems but the search software
does run.  We will probably upgrade these in any case.

Now for my question.  Does anyone know how to get this to time out to DOS
so that my menu will come up when people walk away?  I understand this is
an option, but on our system, it seems to time out and reset back to its
opening screen.   What is the secret or am I wrong about this?

Margaret

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Subject: Re: adding a third tower to cd-connection
Date: 23 Jan 93 02:27:14 GMT
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>I will be upgrading my CBIS CD-Server from 2 to 3 towers soon.  Has
>anyone experienced deterioration in performance with a 3 tower
>system?


I have one 3 tower CD-Connection system and will be upgrading my
second CD-Connection server from 2 to 3 towers shortly.

I haven't seen ANY degradation when moving from 2 to 3 towers.  On
the contrary, our 3 drive tower has been more stable than the 2 drive
unit (for various unrelated reasons!).

There are a few things to make sure of when you upgrade to three
though:

If using the ASC-88 cards, there should be no problems.  Just be sure
to set memory addresses to 3 sequential locations (i.e., CC00, D000,
D400).

If using the ASC-86 cards (highly recommended due to increased
performance), there are a couple of things to look out for:

1.  You will have a skip in memory locations (as I remember, there is
no D400).  To get the cards to work right, you set them at three
memory locations with one skip between them (i.e., D000, D800, DC00).
You then need to add a parameter to the line in your CONFIG.SYS
where the CBISDRV.SYS is loaded:  /SKIP.  The default is one skip.
If you have more, you need to add a number.

2.  Be sure that you are using the proper revision of CBISDRV.SYS.
We found that the very latest one did not work.  The revision for
7/22/92 works fine.  If you use the wrong version, you will get an
error message to the effect that an invalid parameter was specified
and you will lock as XCDSERVE is loaded.

Also, be sure that you check to make sure that the version of
ASC_MODE.EXE that is shipped with your interface card is current.

Note, by the way, that you can actually run 4 towers (including the
master unit) for a total of 28 drives if you are using the recent
driver and software that supports extended drive naming.  From my
experiences with 3 towers, I would think that there would not be much
of a degradation (if any) in speed.  While we have had problems with
CBIS' software, none of these has been attributable to the number of
drives mounted on the server.  Incidentally, we currently run Mylex
486/33 ISA motherboards with 16 Mb of RAM on each CD Server.

CBIS should be able to provide information and updated drivers if you
run into trouble.  (I highly recommend talking with Chris Hill of
CBIS).

Good luck!Arne J. Almquist
Assistant to the Director of Libraries for
Networking and Microcomputer Resources
University of N. Texas--Libraries
P.O. Box 5188
Denton, TX  76203-0188

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From:         Dan Hale <DAN@SAFETY.NWSCC.SEA06.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Buying CD's

I have just set up a CD ROM server with Netware 3.11 and SCSI
Express (great product).  We have 10 CD ROM Drives and everything
seems to work great so far.  What I would like is some
recommendations for some useful and good CD's to purchase.  After
using some of the stuff we already have we will have some drives
leftover.  I just joined this list and this is my first posting.
What I need is the name of the software, the mfg, and where it can be
purchased.

Thanks

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