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From: dblakele@hercules.acpub.duke.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Volume Levels set in Preferences (3.0 question)
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:57:37 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.
Originator: dblakele@raphael.acpub.duke.edu

It's interesting how a NeXT can change a marraige.  My wife, Denise
(The C/Unix programming goddess that she is) and I have had ours for
over a year now and it certainly has made in impact on our relatioship
(aside from the usual things of "Honey would you get off the modem,
I'm getting a page from the hospital" or "Dean, you're always on that
silly thing.  When do I get my turn?")

Anyway, we noticed fairly quickly that with the Preferences in NS2.1
the volume settings are not individualized to the different users.
We both have loginhook sounds which are rather fun, but alas, Denise
developed serious AcChen addiction.  Thus, the problem.  I turn up the
volume to hear my system beeps, loginhooks and logouthooks.  When she
logs in to play AcChen and it screams "*WELCOME*" she turns around and
yells back at me for fiddling with the volume control.

So, I'm left pondering the question.  Does NS 3.0 allow for individual
setting of volume control by user?  I certainly hope so, since I can't
modulate the volumes on the AcChen binary (although I'd dearly love to)
since I love that game oh so much. (NOT!)
 
Otherwise we're stuck with the occasional spats of "You've been messing
with the volume again, haven't you!"

Peace (from dean, the physician who mungs Unix well)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jgg@proforma.com (J. G. Gregory)
Subject: Upgrade 3.0 arrives, ordered 28-Mar-92
Organization: Pro Forma
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:03:31 GMT

For those who are keeping track:  I ordered the NeXT 3.0/CD-ROM bundle on  
28-Mar-92, and received the drive within a few weeks.  On Friday, 11-Sep-92,  
Fedex made the first attempt to deliver the 3.0 Upgrade box.  (It was not  
labelled "MS-DOS 5.0")

--J Gregory
From: dmr@medicated.Corp.Sun.COM (Daniel M. Rosenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Dammit, I'm dumb. Why doesn't talk work?
Date: 14 Sep 1992 20:04:01 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dmr@medicated.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: medicated.corp.sun.com

I *know* this was just posted; you are perfectly justified in
flaming me along with your answer, but the post swished by me
and I cannot find the answer in a FAQ.

On some NeXT's, you type "talk," and it says,

"Go away. You don't exist."

I tried copying a binary from a working on to a non-working one, no
avail. What's the deal, and how does on fix it?

Thanks for any hints. Please ignore my affiliation.

---
# Daniel M. Rosenberg        Dan.Rosenberg@Corp.Sun.COM   +1 415 688 9580
# Opinions expressed above aren't Sun's.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP Release 3
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:17:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.164536.3752@deepthought.uucp> Neil Greene <deepthought!neil@ms.uky.edu> writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.122640.16046@ornl.gov> woo@ornl.gov(John W. Wooten)  
>writes:
>[stuff deleted]
>
>I got bit by the non floppy bug also.  I purchased a 3.0 license for our  
>existing cube running 2.1.  Ordered 3 new machines that came with 3.0  
>pre-installed and with the shinny new CD-ROMs.  However, no way for me to  
>upgrade my cube without that "3.0 upgrade-prep" diskette.  Although, we still
>tried our best to figure out what files were needed.   :-)

If you have three machines with 3.0 and one cube without, why don't
you network upgrade your cube?


andrew
-- 
andrew@cubetech.com     | "We shall not cease from exploration
Andrew Loewenstern      |  And the end of our exploring
Cube Technologies, Inc. |  Will be to arrive where we started
                        |  And know the place for the first time." -T.S. Eliot
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: lockhart@eecom.gatech.edu (John B. Lockhart)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM question, NeXT customer support gripe
Summary: No kidding.
Organization: Computer Engineering Group, Georgia Tech, Atlanta, GA 30332-0250
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 21:06:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.170141.580@parsec.mixcom.com> alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart) writes:
>Well I am getting kind of desperate! I ordered the darn
>thing a long long long long time ago, and nothing has
>arrived. About 3 weeks back I had a call from NeXT
>to verify an item in the order...
>Last time, it took 3 months, don't they realize how
>bad they look?

No, they don't.  Which is why I'm seriously looking at 486 systems, however
much I might hate the software: for price/performance, they're difficult to
beat. They also have the general advantage that you can go down the street and
buy what you want, instead of placing an order for a measly drive on June 8th,
paying in full, and not receiving it on September 5th (and counting).

NeXT did this to me on my 'station itself, and I was patient with them.

Then my monitor went bad, and they replaced it the *next*day*, so I didn't
hold that against them.  I must admit I've never seen a better service dept.

Now, 89 days later, my patience is wearing a trifle thin with their
shipping department.

I've had some people flame me slightly about my previous messages, telling
me to stop my whining, and to give NeXT a break:  even if I am whining
(which I'll admit), it just isn't good business to keep doing this sort of
thing to customers.  They'll eventually learn not to buy.

--John

-- 
::|  The hypocrites are slandering the sacred halls of truth, ancient       |::
::|  nobles showering their bitterness on you...                            |::
::|                                                                 --Rush  |::
::::::::::| John B. Lockhart |::::::::::| lockhart@eecom.gatech.edu |::::::::::
From: unregistered@newcastle.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: expanding the dock
Date: 7 Sep 92 10:17:24 GMT
Reply-To: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
Organization: Synapse Computer Consultants
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

reed@prism.sps.mot.com (Tim Reed) writes:
: 
: I know this has been asked before, but I don't remember the answers.  
: Is there any way to expand the dock to hold more than 13 apps? What  
: about NeXTstep 3.0?
: 

Unlike most of the people that have responded to this post, I have no
connection with any maker of any product, but I am a satisfied 
customer of ASW's Engage.  Jayson was very friendly to deal with,
even called me from the States when I was having a problem...

As far as I know, NeXTstep 3.0 has not changed it's Dock to accomodate
more than the 13 apps.  There are a few PD applications that allow you
to extend it in some manner or another, as well as the commercial
programmes...  

Most of the extenders work on the same pricnciple, you place in your
real dock a programme that you launch at login.  To add programmes to
your "fake" dock, you drag the icon of the app, file, or folder you
wish to add on top of the icon of the Dock Extender in the real Dock...

The biggest probelm I've seen is that if you double click on a file,
such as a .create file, it will not check to see if the DockExtender
programme has a copy of it sitting there to be launched, instead,
it will launch a copy and take a place in the row at the bottowm
of the screen.  The only way around it is to launch the application 
first, and then open the file second.

Just my tuppence worth,
Scott
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: libg++ 2.2
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:16:08 GMT
Reply-To: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Sep7.025554.13348@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> perkins@cps.msu.edu  
(Stephen Perkins) writes:
] 
] I got gcc version 2.2.2 to compile on my NeXT.  However, I have not
] had much luck with libg++.  It seems to bomb out while trying to
] compile a file called procbuf.C.  Error looks like:
] 
]    procbuf.C: In method `int  procbuf::sys_close ()':
]    procbuf.C:91: incompatible pointer types for argument 0 of `int  wait
]    (union wait*)'
]    **
] 
] I was using gcc(2.2.2). Anybody had better luck than me?? I searched
] many places for info on building this thing, but couldn't find much.
] BTW, I configured with string "m68k-next-mach".

Here is the patch.

*** procbuf.C.orig	Fri Jul 17 14:51:46 1992
--- procbuf.C	Fri Jul 17 14:53:36 1992
***************
*** 79,85 ****
--- 79,89 ----
      int status = filebuf::sys_close();
      if (status < 0)
  	return status;
+ #ifdef NeXT
+     union wait wstatus;
+ #else
      int wstatus;
+ #endif
  #ifdef USE_SIGMASK
      int mask = sigblock(sigmask(SIGINT) | sigmask(SIGQUIT) |  
sigmask(SIGHUP));
  #else

--
Douglas Scott                              (805)893-8352
Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
University of California, Santa Barbara
Internet: (NeXTMail ok)   <doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu>
From: midiapolis@cup.portal.com (Gerard Thomas Schwarz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: WarpIt posting
Date: Sun,  6 Sep 92 00:20:58 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

On September 1 I posted the posting regarding WarpIt version 1.1 to 
comp/sys/next/misc. In August I posted the initial release of WarpIt
also to comp/sys/next/misc.

Previously I had posted all our press releases in comp.sys.next.announce
and had sent these postings to the moderator of that group but the latest
postings did not show up (the first one after nearly 2 weeks). Therefore
I posted it to the previously mentioned category. Sorry if this was
improper and I will make every effort so that all our postings are
made to the proper places. I too like a properly run machine but also
wanted people to receive the information in a timely manner.

>>  [a press release for a commercial product]
> Shouldn't this be in c.s.n.a? What's the point of having a moderated  
> newsgroup if people merrily avoid it?

> Strike me as being particularly inflammatory when we're in the
> midst of a debate about commercial posts...

> WarpIt sounds like a cool thing, but jeez!

> Gordon


- Gerard Schwarz   MIDIapolis Systems  midiapolis@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ob@obh.in-berlin.de (Oliver Brandmueller)
Subject: Re: Getting lint
Organization: obh - private bbs in Berlin/Germany
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 12:13:39 GMT

Hi,

dblakele@hercules.acpub.duke.edu writes:
>My wife, Denise (The C/Unix programming goddess in this household) was
>mucking around for a sub-utility called line when executing a make
>on her ray tracer last night.  Our Unix man pages make indirect referrals
>to it, but it doesn't seem to be with our current distribution of Unix
>utilities (NS2.1).  Would anybody be so kind as to point us to the
>archive site and location to go about picking up lint.  (Yeah, I know.
>Bad pun!)  Thanx.

"lint" is copyrighted by AT&T. So if you haven't an AT&T source-license
you won't hardly have a chance to get it. An alternative should be the
gcc's "-pedantic" switch.

Bye, Olli

-- 
| Oliver Brandmueller | Detmolder Str. 64 | 1000 Berlin 31 | Germany - (FRG) |
| ob@obh.in-berlin.de | V +49 30 853 6980 | Cityruf 315 30 68 30 (numerisch) |
| "Ich werde Millionaer, heirate Jodie Foster und nehme mir eine Nymphomanin |
|          als Putzfrau. Dann habe ich alles erreicht." - ob@school          |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: cl50@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Chengi  Lin)
Subject: new SoftPC with VGA display?
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 05:51:07 GMT

Does anyone know when Insignia is going to release the new 
version of SoftPC that supports VGA display?  I heard that 
NeXT was writing some codes for Insignia to support VGA 
display.  Now NeXTStep 3.0 is out and NeXTStep 486 is also 
on its way, how about the VGA support? 

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
  


	[] Cheng-I Lin		[] SEAS, Columbia University
	[] Internet:	cl50@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu  (No NeXTmail, please)
From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlei)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NS 3.0, Appletalk, and Macs
Keywords: Appletalk Macintosh
Date: 7 Sep 92 22:20:20 GMT
Reply-To: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu
Organization: Computer Science, University of California at Davis.

I have heard rumors that NS 3.0 will support Appletalk.  If
this is true, does anyone know if it would be possible to
connect my Mac to my NeXT via an Appletalk network?  Furthermore,
could I then print from the Macintosh to the NeXT printer?

Thanks,

Todd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Dammit, I'm dumb. Why doesn't talk work?
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess)
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:41:38
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College
In-reply-to: Alex Raftis's message of Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:44:14 GMTLines: 53

[I don't much like to do Stuart support via netnews, but I also
 want to make certain this point is publicly cleared up.  In the
 future, if anyone has problems with Stuart, _please_ contact me
 directly and I'll clear them up directly -scott]

In article <1992Sep15.184414.108626@zeus.calpoly.edu>
	Alex Raftis <alex@cosmos.acs.calpoly.edu> writes:
>Daniel M. Rosenberg writes
>> On some NeXT's, you type "talk," and it says,
>>
>> "Go away. You don't exist."
>
>I've occaissionally had this problem and the only thing I can find
>is that talk doesn't like to work with Stewart, and I'm not sure
>why, since I can execute the call that has problems in other code
>under Stewart. I blame Stuart, because I can start up X and an
>xterm and talk will work fine. This problem may hold true for
>Terminal, since it's based on Stuart.

Just FYI, this is not due to a bug in Stuart, but the result of
incorrect installation.  Terminal comes pre-installed, so installation
is not a problem (though these types of problems can occur if one
gets too aggressive with trying to improve security on their system).
The problems described do not occur when Stuart is installed
correctly.  Stuart2.4 includes an online manual which describes
how to install things correctly.  It also has a section (Trouble
Shooting/talk Isn't Working) which details some of the problems
that are likely to occur due to an incorrect installation, including
the exact problems that have been described on this newsgroup.
For more information, I refer you to that section of the online
manual.

>I think the has the effect of confusing talk, which doesn't manage
>to associate you talk request with a name and a tty. I've tried
>playing with the code a little, but like I said, the calls work
>individually from other code fragments, so until I have more time,
>I remain stumped.

As noted above, _please_ contact me directly with these problems.
There is no reason for you to spend time attempting to solve problems
that shouldn't be there in the first place.  I'll try to fix them
or try make a good argument for why they aren't really problems
(and thus shouldn't be fixed).  As a last resort I'll hide behind
the excuse that I don't currently have the time to fix them correctly.
In the case of the problems mentioned in this groups, I'd have sent
back the five-line explanation of where to look for the fix, and
much confusion and annoyance would have been avoided.

Thanks,
--
scott hess <shess@ssesco.com>       <A port is a port, of course, of course>
12901 Upton Avenue South, #326  Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Anytime!
<You praise me with faint damns, the dragon growled.  -Castle Roogna, Xanth>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ben@fizz.fdn.gna.org (Benoit Grange)
Subject: Fax Modems on Next
Organization: Personal.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 20:35:06 GMT

Here are some questions about fax modems on the Next.

- I would like to know what are the fax/modems currently supported with NS  
3.0 (V32bis/V42/V42bis is required).

I would like (if possible) a modem knowing to recognise fax/data incoming  
calls and it's driver to launch a getty or the fax daemon when applicable.

- Supra and 'Total System Software' are talking a lot about new  
functionalities for their modems&drivers, but is it really working ?

- Currently I have a Supra Fax Modem Plus featuring v22bis/ mnp2-5/ v42/  
v42bis. But it is having problems connecting to a hayes ultra modem.
I have a lot of 'NO CARRIER'... 
Does Supra released new roms for it ?

----
Benoit Grange - PARIS - FRANCE
-- 
----
Benoit Grange - PARIS - FRANCE

Mail to : ben@fizz.fdn.org (SMALL NeXTMails accepted, < 10kb)
From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Upgrade 3.0 arrives, ordered 28-Mar-92
Date: 15 Sep 92 23:54:13 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <1992Sep14.233616.19945@ee.gatech.edu> lockhart@eecom.gatech.edu (John B. Lockhart) writes:
>For those who are keeping track, I ordered the NeXT 3.0/CD-ROM bundle on
>06-Jun-92, and have since received:

>1.  A NeXT SCSI I <--> II Cable.

>...you'll probably find my "system for sale" ad on comp.sys.next.marketplace
>within a week or so.

>--John

That's too bad.  Selling your system because of shipping delays.  Good luck
in finding a company that doesn't do that.

I got my NeXTstep 3.0 CD today.  Haven't gotten the CD ROM drive yet.
Friend of mine got his CD ROM drive a while ago, about a month before he got
his cable, and it looks like his upgrade kit was given to me also (I of
course will give it to him).
------
Mike Matthews, matthews@oberon.umd.edu (NeXTmail accepted)
------
Death: to stop sinning suddenly.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jhenshaw@microsoft.com (Jeff Henshaw)
Subject: NT: please define vapor.
Date: 09 Sep 92 16:42:38 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation


| Well, depends on what functionality you mean.  If it looks like UNIX,
| it's UNIX --- if not, its not.  It's the total package I'm interested
| in, personally.  As for market share...

I can [somewhat] agree with the above statement, but
there is another side to that coin that must be
considered.  You're saying (and please do correct me
if I'm wrong) that:  "The UNIX feel has come to symbolize
power in an OS, and I want to keep that look so that I
can be at home with my system."  Certainly, there is
NOTHING wrong with that.  Everyone wants their familiar
OS and UI.  But I try to also consider that there are many,
many DOS and Windows users, and NT will provide them their
same happy, comfortable interface, while giving the underlying
OS some real horsepower.  Is there anything so terribly wrong
with that?  I imagine that I'll get 10,000 pieces of mail saying
that NeXTSTEP is better than the DOS/Win31 UI, and thus Microsoft
is making a mistake with NT.  Please refrain, though, because
I like NeXTSTEP, too, though there are 10,000,000 people who
might think differently out there.

| Well, UNFORTUNATELY it probably will gain enormous market share.  This
| is a truly sad thing, IMHO.  Fact is, NT at this point is vapor --- nobody
| can do more than speculate on what it can do and how well until it starts
| shipping "for real".  Until proven otherwise, I'll assume that, like all
| of Microsoft's other products, it's going to be crippled with minimal
| functionality. ;)  BUT let's not encourage NeXT, one of the few companies
| well poised to compete for that desktop market, to can its product, jump
| camp, and effectively give Microsoft a tremendous value-add for free!!!

First of all, you *really* need to define what "vapor" is if you're
going to reference products in relation to it.  If you mean that
"vapor" is a product that has been announced, but is not yet
being distributed to the general public in a release form, then
yes (listen to the Microsoft employee say this :-), NT is vapor.
HOWEVER, if you mean that "vapor" implies that the product is not
available in any way-shape-or-form, and/or that is currently provides
no functionality that it intends, then you are 100% dead wrong.  You
can get a developers' pre-release TODAY for $69, which includes a
microkernel-based OS, pre-emptive multitasking, fully 32-bit, with
a Windows 3.1 UI.  Plus, the
same CD has support for both MIPS and Intel, with a C/C++ compiler,
and 7600 pgs of online docs.  I don't mean to advertise here; thats
not my intent.  I just don't think that anyone who calls something
like NT "vapor" without defining what they mean should go withoug
rebuttal.

-Jeff Henshaw
jhenshaw@microsoft.com

not a microsoft spokesperson.
From: gamage@spot.Colorado.EDU (GAMAGE NIMAL K K)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help connect HP laserjet II with PS cart
Date: 8 Sep 92 02:41:51 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder


Help connect HP LJ II with Postscript Cartridge to Next Station

Can some one tell me how to do this please. What I have is a serial
interface 300 dpi postscript cart equipped printer which I connected
to port a of the next with a Null-modem cable made as specified in the
appendix of the NeXT user manual. Since the printmanager seem to know
about laserjet III, laserjet 2D, Okidata laser, many NEC models, I tired
all of them with no luck at all. May be I am missing something. Have I got
to set the serial port with special permissions? I made sure the printcap
(via nidump printcap) entry looked okay, i.e 9600 baud and port a. The error
I get is that lpq -l report time out printer not responding etc.. But looking
at the printer nothing SEEMS to come there.

Any body did some thing similar? Please help. Thanks.

Nimal Gamage.
APAS, CU Boulder.
Xref: sparky comp.sys.next.misc:19361 comp.sys.next.programmer:6030
From: jashley@garbo.cs.indiana.edu (John Michael Ashley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: NEW language list, with 100% more than the FAQ sheet!
Date: 7 Sep 92 11:32:50 GMT
Reply-To: jashley@cs.indiana.edu
Organization: Indiana University Computer Science


Chez Scheme, an incremental Scheme compiler, also runs on the NeXT.
It's R4 compliant, and has a SICP compatability mode, foreign function
interface, and a host of other goodies.  And it's fast, both the
compiler and the generated code.  A very clean and very good
implementation of Scheme.

Available from

    Cadence Research Systems
    620 North Park Ridge Road
    Bloomington, Indiana
    47408
    (812) 333-9269
    dyb@cadence.bloomington.in.us


Mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Subject: Re: Where are the Philips monitors built?
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 23:22:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.163800.18684@tamsun.tamu.edu> lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty  
Wench) writes:
> In article <1992Aug30.153807.17981@cube.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com  
(Jim De Arras) writes:
> >
> >He can't do anything about it, Philips TV's look just as bad.  It's an issue  
of  
> >phosphers.  Sony has the best, the best red in specific.
> >
> >Jim
> 
> Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.  Here you have a guy in
> management who is not only open to suggestions but who is even
> *anxious* to hear specific ways in which they can improve their 
> product, and all you can do is say "forget it, you don't stand a 
> chance".  I guess it's more fun to complain about why something 
> is a piece of junk than it is to offer constructive suggestions 
> on how it can be made better.
> 
> 
> Lusty Wench

Perhaps I was too abrupt in my reply.  The difference between Sony and Philips'  
colo[u]r CRTs is historic, and a matter of pride to BOTH companies.   Philips  
thinks their phospers look better than Sony's.  I used to work in broadcasting,  
and we used Philips's cameras (actually Norelco) at the time, and were very  
pleased with the image quality, but only on US or Sony monitors.  Philips could  
never sell us a monitor.

I applaud any effort to provide constructive feedback, and don't mean to sound  
like a complainer.  But to my perspective, this issue was 'resolved' a decade  
ago, and I just don't see Philips changing their mind now over a complaint from  
NeXT users.  But by all means, give it a go!
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