From: linan@argon.berkeley.edu (Mike Linan)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals
Subject: Don't tell the anti-hunters
Date: 28 Sep 1992 20:01:47 GMT
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Subject: Re: Don't tell the anti-hunters

In article <1992Sep26.234559.434@halfab.ka.sub.org> me@halfab.ka.sub.org writes:
>In article <1992Sep24.144902.13834@spdc.ti.com> achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com  
>(Jeff Achenbach) writes:
>> In article <1992Sep23.222212.398@halfab.ka.sub.org>  
>me%halfab@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org writes:
>> >In article <92261.143315DJC143@psuvm.psu.edu> <DJC143@psuvm.psu.edu>  
>writes:
>> >> Keep up the good work swood!  And good hunting

>> >Why don't hunters hunt hunters?
>> >Afraid of an animal that can defend itself?

>> Ever seen a feral hog?

>Yes, I sometimes feed some of these "Schwarzkittel".

>> Some of us hunt them with bows. At least one guy here
>> in Texas hunts them with a knife. Wanna go try it?

>No!
>But don't you want to go to "hunt" the guy with the knife with a knife?


Why would you assume or ask someone why they don't want to take part in
an unethical activity?  Why not ask the women that have had abortions if
they want to take the lives of small children and if not, why?


>This is it what I think man can avoid!


Can avoid?  Why?  For what reason?  


>Killing of any form of life just for fun or lust!


If you had been paying attention you would already know that the hunters
posting to this group DON'T kill just for fun or lust.  Most hunters do
not agree with unnecessary killing or suffering.


>If somebody hunts for his survival then he is a hunter.


And that is exactly what the hunters posting to this group do.  That there
are alternatives available such as paying someone else to do the killing
for you (supermarkets with drug infested, fatty meat) or not eating meat
at all does not mean that we have to choose these for ourselves.


>The others are, in my opinion, killers.


We are all killers if you really want to face the truth.  Vegans kill
plant life in order to survive.  Most everybody will agree, myself included,
that plants are far different from humans and other animals but, the fact
remains that EVERYBODY kills in order to survive.


>Harsh words, I know.
>In real animal world hunting is a daily task. 
>There also exists strange behavior at the first glance,
>like the killing of the own babies (eg. apes and lions).
>Although we have not the right to kill any animal or man.


Says who?  You?  Why do you feel man is any different than the lion, wolf
or eagle with respect to his "right" to kill in order to feed himself?  


>So you should better take a sixpack and throw away your knifes.


Don't you agree that hops and barley had to die in order to make that six
pack?   I will not pretend that hops and barley are the same as animals but,
they were alive before being killed were they not.  What makes you feel it
is OK to kill them but not OK to kill deer and other such prey animals in
order to eat?


>Try to reduce your aggressions with sports like free climbing.


Nice option.  Perhaps I will but, I will also continue to hunt.  


>Udo.


Mike Linan









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