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From: jwk@sequent.com (John "Just Say Noe" Kramer)
Subject: Re: Goal of the Season.
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 16:08:56 GMT

In article <afVq02sn2fa201@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> ljw00@amail.amdahl.com writes:
>One for the great soccer minds of our time:
>
>Anyone remember a goal Justin Fashanu scored years ago that won the Match
>Of The Day Goal of the Season? He got the ball outside the box with his
>back to the goals, chipped it up over his shoulder, turned round the
>defender and whacked it on the volley into the far corner. Great goal.
>
>Now to settle a bet, can anyone tell me who Fashanu was playing for at
>the time, and who they were playing against?
>
>This could be worth some money.
>Thanx, Liam.


Scratch, scratch, scratch...he was playing for Norwich against Liverpool.
From: ohayon@jcpltyo.JCPL.CO.JP (Tsiel Ohayon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Rai?
Date: 23 Dec 92 23:52:24 GMT
Organization: James Capel Pacific Limited, Tokyo Japan

In article <9212230020.AA12698@garnet.berkeley.edu> shadlin@garnet.berkeley.edu writes:

[KEN] He is no Enzo Scifo, when it comes to quickness.  But his touch, vision,
[KEN] and smarts make up for it.  I think that the longer he stays in the 
[KEN] center of the Brazilian midfeld, the more the entire team will become 
[KEN] accustomed to his
[KEN] style and his weaknesses, and both Rai and the Brazilians will continue to
[KEN] look better and better.
[KEN] Just my opinion.  I look forward to hearing what others say.

I saw Rai for the first time ever this past December in Tokyo, when he played
in the Toyota Cup against Barcelona. I agree that he is very slow but he makes
up for it with precise passing and placement on the field. I don't think he
was the best player on the field for the game although he did win the MVP award
because he scored 2 goals for Sao Paulo, the second one was a pure gem.
He did show us that he is at least as talented as his brother if not more.
EI hope he will come back next year to Tokyo and thatg we will see him with
Brazil in the World Cup.

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From: scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: EBC: Another Example Thereof
Date: 24 Dec 92 09:36:10 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, SCOTLAND.

There was some programme on EBC2 last night and they were at a fitba' match
in Crete where there was crowd violence. There was a commentary at the bottom
the screen which said "The Greek fans have a worse name for hooliganism than
the British".

Now pardon me, but didn't Scotland win the best fans award in Sweden while
the English were rampaging through the streets. Same happened in Italy for
the Scots. It's just another example of the English bringing us down to their
level of shame and embarressment.

When I was in Bochum a couple of weeks back we got into the pubs no problem
at all. We were told about the English visit though four years previous when
they wrecked the place. Needless to say there was not one arrest.

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From: reidkb@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Kenneth B Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: St. Mirren sack Charnley (Was: Ayr United v St.Mirren
Date: 23 Dec 92 14:22:34 GMT
Organization: Computing Sci, Glasgow Univ, Scotland

In article <1gtqo5INN13r@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> au215@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stephen K. Mulrine) writes:
>
>In a previous article, mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell) says:
>>he's a good player, i saw him play for partick a couple of times.
>
>Chic Charnley was one of my favourites!  Nobody else could have the
>crowd in stitches.  

My pal got to interview Chic for our Universtiy newspaper about 4 years ago.
He asked him what the most audacious thing he ever did in a game was. Chic
replied that in one game he did a tremendous nutmeg on a defender, and   
instead of collecting the ball, he just stood still and bowed to the crowd!!!.

On the negative side though, I once saw him getting sent of twice against
Rangers for two different teams in the same season.

The Boy Reid

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From: statlab1@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Pele'...
Date: 30 Dec 92 13:14:55 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

Does anybody know of any players, other than Pele', who scored
more than 1000 goals, in official matches?
From: llew@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Lok C. Lew Yan Voon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: england-turkey for wc94
Date: 29 Dec 1992 01:32:43 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
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i just saw a game here in the us (for those in  new england, channel 27).
however, commentary was in spanish and i couldn't figure when
it's actually played. the game was on yesterday (sunday) and
england won 4-0 at wembley. i do know it's part of the wc94
qualifiers.
it's actually an entertaining game with 2 nice goals from
paul gasgoigne.

i'd appreciate if someone can tell me whether it's an old game
or whether it's carried with only a slight tape delay.
i think they'll be showing scotland-italy next sunday.

lok
From: tom@varian.com (tom cao)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: RULE CHANGES
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:46:06 GMT
Organization: Varian Chromotography Systems


>> ALSO, THERE SHOULD BE A GREATER NUMBER OF SUBSTITUTIONS 
>>ALLOWED.  WHAT DO YOU THINK?  SEND ME YOUR RESPONSES!
	yeh! i believe 2 subs/half instead of /game is a happy compromise.
	This will give more playing experience to the players.

!)
From: rcampb@cac.washington.edu (Russ Campbell )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Continental Indoor Soccer League goes international
Date: 30 Dec 1992 19:50:01 GMT
Organization: UW Computing
Distribution: world
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In article <30DEC199210151731@cc.utah.edu>, ewstroup@cc.utah.edu (ERIC W. STROUP) writes:
|> I just read in the paper (in a very small paragraph) that the CISL announced
|> that Monterrey Mexico has been admited at the 10th charter member for the 
|> league that is to begin play this June.  The article also said that Atlanta
|> Pittsburgh, Orlando and Salt Lake City have charter membership applications 
|> pending.
|> 
|> Anyone esle with news are comments about this?
|> 

No news but this comment.  I've said it before and I'll keep repeating
myself until I get to shake my electronic finger and say "I told you so!":
 playing indoor soccer in the summer just doesn't make any sense and I've
no idea how in the world this group has managed to delude itself into
thinking that they'll eventually make money this way.  And how is it that
there are enough fools willing to throw away money on such a gamble but
none of them will put up for a full pitch, outdoor team?  Grrr.

-russ
Organization: Doctoral student, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 09:01:55 -0500 
From: "Joao M. Soares" <js56+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: EC 1 in 1987

If that final between Porto and Bayern was not exciting,
then I don't know what do you mean by an exciting soccer game.
Besides, Porto didn't win because of a careless mistake
of the german team. Bayern was very lucky to score in the
first half, and they could not handle Porto's strong offensive
game in the entire second half. Porto scored two very beautiful
goals, and a few more could have happened. 
As for the semifinal between Porto and Dynamo Kiev, again I don't
understand your claim that Kiev was the best team! Porto beat them
both at home (I was at that game and have very little doubts about
who the best team was) and in the away game.
Joao Soares
From: etalvio@vipunen.hut.fi (Samuli Talvio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: English 26 & 28 Dec. results
Date: 3 Jan 93 01:18:04 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

I'm a bit tired right now, so I'll leave the division results for later
or for someone else to write.

26.12.

Arsenal	- Ipswich	0 - 0
Blackburn - Leeds	3 - 1
Chelsea - Southampton	1 - 1
Coventry - Aston Villa	3 - 0
Crystal P - Wimbledon	2 - 0
Everton - Middlesbrough	2 - 2
Manch. C - Sheffield U	2 - 0
Norwich - Tottenham	0 - 0
Sheffield W - Manch. U	3 - 3

28.12.

Aston Villa - Arsenal	1 - 0
Ipswich - Blackburn	2 - 1
Leeds - Norwich		0 - 0
Liverpool - Manch. C	1 - 1
Manchester U - Coventry	5 - 0
Middlesbr. - Crystal P	0 - 1
Queens PR - Everton	4 - 2
Southampton - Sheff. W	1 - 2
Tottenham - Nottingham	2 - 1
Wimbledon - Chelsea	0 - 0

There. Spurs still has its chances :-)

Samuli Talvio
From: jhiggott@emerald.axion.bt.co.uk (Jeff Higgott)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Ipswich 1-0 Villa - Coca Cola Cup
Date: 22 Dec 92 09:23:20 GMT
Reply-To: jhiggott@axion.bt.co.uk
Organization: BT Labs
Organisation: BT Laboratories, Martlesham Heath, IPSWICH UK

Following the 1-0 victory by Ipswich Town over Aston Villa in the Coca Cola
Cup last week, the Town Manager Mick McGiven gave a TV interview.  A
transcription of his thoughts on the game follows:


"I think it was a very typical cup tie.  There wasn't much space about; the
football was a premium.  There was a lot of tackles and not much space and
it was going to be decided by, I thought, the set piece and as it happens we
were fortunate enough to get the one that matters.

"I thought Villa had a couple of opportunities which missed.  We had a couple
of opportunities - but in fairness it was one of those cup ties where there
wasn't much space about and the sides were pretty much even-steven.  We were
fortunate enough to get on the end of the only goal that mattered and I'm
very pleased for the players and people of Suffolk."


Jeff...

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From: csfraw@vehka.cs.uta.fi (Francis Akoto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: HELP ??????- questions
Date: 2 Jan 93 11:04:03 GMT
Reply-To: csfraw@vehka.cs.uta.fi (Francis Akoto)
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

HELP HELP HELP
***********************************************************************

Please check if you know the answers to any of these questions and email me

csfraw@vehka.cs.uta.fi

       All about the English league

8) Which non-british player(s) has/have won the English player of the year 
   award ?

9) Name the twins playing at the moment in Primere or/and English league .

10) Which of the english league managers is a second generation manager i.e he
    is following in his fathers footsteps ??

12) Name the league players who took part in the Barcelona olympic games

13)Who recorded the hit single "Head Over Heels in Love "

14)Cantona is not the first French player in the English league after 1978. Who
  preceeded him ??

15) They are English. the big brother plays in the scottish priemer league and
    the little brother in the English primere league. Who are they



thanks

email: csfraw@vehka.cs.uta.fi
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From: marco@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Marco Petroni)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Cristmas Break
Date: 26 Dec 92 14:44:33 GMT
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines, Montreal, Canada

In article <Bzu0zv.9p5@news.iastate.edu> swindoro@iastate.edu (New Jersey) writes:
>Hello, there..
>Is there any match in Italian League within this 2 weeks ?

Yup. League play resumes on January 3, 1993.

>thanx !

Don't mention it...

Marco...
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From: 074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Russians s**t on Liverpool
Date: 26 Dec 92 18:25:20 GMT
Organization: Wits University

In article <1992Nov18.224013.14307@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>
astro@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Phillip Vyp'ev-Zakusim) writes:
 
>
>>Spartak won the first game in Moscow 4-2!!!!
>>
>>
>>SPARTAK - CHAMPION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>not quite... Dinamo Kiev can kick their butts anytime.  Too bad all their best players are overseas, plus they aren't playing in the same league.
 
As long as Liverpool's butts got kicked, who cares !!
From: ayari@turinaz.loria.fr (Ayari Iskander)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Question
Date: 21 Dec 92 08:08:44 GMT
Organization: Crin-Inria-Lorraine

Keywords: 


Does anyone know the result of Tunisia-Morocco for wc 94

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From: manoel@wam.umd.edu (Manoel Mendonca)
Subject: Brazilian Soccer (repost)
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 16:19:31 GMT


	I decided to repost this article because the first one went
only to USA. I am sorry if you are receiving it for the second time.

In article <1992Dec21.162631.26352@wam.umd.edu> waddlech@wam.umd.edu (David Akkarach) writes:
>Yesterday afternoon, SBS6 had the Brasilian championship match, 
>Sao Paulo - Palmeiras. I caught only the 2nd half and saw Palmeiras
>score late into the half. However, Sao Paulo won the match and over
>200,000 fans went crazy as the all the players mobbed Tele Santana
>at the end of the game.
>
>I think the stadium was Maracana, but not sure because it looked rather
>clean and new.
>
>-Dave
>

	I will make some corrections in this mail only to inform a
little about Brazilian soccer.
	The championship won by Sao Paulo was the Sao Paulo State
Championship.  Brazil has 26 (?) states and all of them have
championships in the second semester of the year. All these states
have between 10 to 20 clubs competing. The more competitives states
are Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Minas Gerais and Rio Grande do Sul.
Some examples of teams from those states are:

	Sao Paulo: Sao Paulo(*), Santos, Palmeiras, Corinthians
	Rio: Flamengo, Vasco (*), Fluminense, Botafogo
	Minas: Cruzeiro (*), Atletico Mineiro
	Rio Grande do Sul: Gremio, Internacional(*)

	The teams with the star(*) are IMHO the best in the country
today.

	Besides those Cups we have:
	- the Copa do Brasil: a small cup to decide one of the
	Brazilian teams in the Libertadores.
	- Campeonato Brasileiro: the true Brasilian Championship
	played in the first semester of the year.
	 

	The game between Sao Paulo and Palmeiras was played in Morumbi
stadium. This stadium fits a little bit more than 100,000 people. I
think this is a better bet to this game audience. Maracana is in
Rio de Janeiro state, where Vasco should win this year.

Cheers,

	Manoel Mendonca
From: CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: US Soccer News
Date: 29 Dec 1992 22:17:30 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Marco, you and Ken raise some interesting points.

However, in this case (the release of US players) it is complicated by
the fact that their clubs don't wanting them taking transatlantic
flights in the middle of league and cup seasons. Now if they were Germans
playing in Italy (for example) the logistics would (in theory) be a lot
easier. The "solution" here is for Bora to base the club in Europe
for March - May of '94 and still get to work out with most of the squad.

On the larger issue you mention (Canada and Mexico) the relationship
of national teams to club teams is going to get much stickier. With
the rise of "Super Clubs" like Milan, you already see people like
Gullitt with severly divided loyalties having to make tough choices.

Happy New Year.

Chris

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From: ccziec@vax.nott.ac.uk (Stuart Pearce's left foot)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Americans at Forest ?
Date: 24 Dec 92 07:01:41 GMT
Reply-To: ccziec@vax.nott.ac.uk (Stuart Pearce's left foot)
Organization: University of Nottingham, UK

In article <1992Dec21.140555.27408@informix.com>, richm@informix.com (Richard Mortimer) writes:
>Heard a rumour that Nottingham Forest were giving
>trials to two Americans this week, one of them a
>goalkeeper.  Can Ian (Copping) confirm/deny.
>
>Thanks.
>
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Hi Rich,

Yes Forest have (Had?) two Americans on two weeks trail. They are Brad Freidle
the USA Olympic goalkeeper, and Jean Harbour who has in fact played 25 times
for Nigeria, but has American naturalisation. Harbour apparently hasn't
impressed and is not going to be signed, but Freidle has and a contract
has been offered. Forest are negotiating a 300,000 deal with his club
the Dallas Sidekicks (sounds like Ray Wilkins perfect team :-)
Forest have only seen the UCLA student in only one practice match on the
training pitch, but they have been impressed with his handling, no doubt
he has a nice smile and is a lovely young maaan, then he'll definately be
OK for Cloughie :-).  Don't get me wrong I hope he does well, as our 
current keeper regularly gives us fans nightmares, and opposition teams
goals.

Jean Harbour was recommended by Tampa Bay Rowdies ex-player Rodney Marsh.
He reckoned Harbour was very good all round, fast, strong and with an
eye for goal. Sounds too good for Forest, which is probably why he hasn't
been signed.

Cheers - Ian

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From: ajgam@sabrina.inesc (Antonio Jorge Gomes de Almeida Marques)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: top ten CLUB sides
Date: 23 Dec 92 12:02:30 GMT
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In article <Bzo3MK.4n3@bailgate.gpsemi.com> rich_b@sn4402.oldham.gpsemi.com (Richard Bogusz) writes:
   In article <AJGAM.92Dec22094631@sabrina.inesc>, ajgam@sabrina.inesc (Antonio ted would give any of the mentioned teams a good run this year,
   > 
   |>   Those weren't my choices any way , but if you say that Liverpool or
   |> Manchester United have a place in the top-ten teams , so does Benfica
   |> , 5 or 6 times in the Champions Final , 2 wins , that isn't a team to
   |> put out of it ... and i do belive that Juve and Milan aren't that slow
   |> , Milan against IFK Gotenburg showed that ... 
   |> 
   |> 
   |>   And i still don't like english soccer ....
   |> --
   |> 
   Lots of stuff deleted...

>   By Inter Milan I was referring to Internazionale, not AC Milan.  From the
>   Italian footie I have seen this season AC Milan , and Lazio for
>   that  matter, have looked FAR better than any English club side
>   this season.  Hopefully the live broadcast of Italian games will
>   teach our lot something about skill and imagination.

>   Who are Benfica?  Aren't they the team that George Best and co. took apart
>   a few years ago?



  Yap , and it's also the team that trashed out Arsenal at arsenal's
home ground by 3-1 ..... 

  and Manchester United this year at lisbon , at the aniversary of
Eusebio .....
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From: waddlech@wam.umd.edu (David Akkarach)
Subject: Rai goes to PSG
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 23:14:33 GMT

I heard this morning on Spanish tv that the Sao Paulo midfielder
Rai has been transferred to Paris St. Germaine for L# 4,000,000.
This was the sum quoted by the BBC this afternoon.

Rai earlier rejected Atletico Madrid's offer, on the basis that it would
not pay him enough as the #800,000 figure offered by PSG.

-Dave
From: ajgam@sabrina.inesc (Antonio Jorge Gomes de Almeida Marques)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: top ten CLUB sides
Date: 21 Dec 92 09:31:00 GMT
Organization: INESC (Inst. Eng. Sistemas e Computadores) -LISBOA -PORTUGAL

In article <1992Dec9.140511.2337@dct.ac.uk> mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell) writes:
   anyone for the top ten CLUB sides in the world????

   mine are as follows....

   1. Milan
   2. Juventus
   3. Barca
   4. Nacional
   5. Sao Paolo
   6. Real madrid
   7. Internazionale
   8. River Plate
   9. Marselles
   10.Bayern Munich

   those are mine anyway


   I completly agree with you on the first one AC Milan , but i do
think that Benfica deserve the place destinated to Real Madrid , Real
had an even worst season than Benfica ... 

   In my opinion the order should be :
 
   1.AC Milan
   2.Juventus
   3.Sao Paulo
   4.Barca
   5.Benfica
   6.Inter
   7.Boca Juniores(i just like this team)
   8.Bayern Munich
   9.Atletico Madrid ( Paulo Futre plays there ...)
   10.River Plate


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