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From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: Dougherty and Pen Computing
Date: 22 Dec 92 00:36:47 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

jeff@eng.umd.edu (Jeffrey Frey) writes:

>Is this a hint to us all that the reason we're not seeing 2.0 or the SDK
>is because the vast GW programming staff is predominantly occupied with the 
>Pen/GEOS software? 

Nonononono.... There is no "Pen/GEOS" per se - GEOS 2.0 has pen functionality
built in, and developers of pen-based software can use it as they wish.  That
is based on what I've heard here from GeoWorks folks.  And reportedly adding
the pen functionality was a relatively minor thing.

The reason we're not seeing 2.0 is that we're not part of the beta program for
it.  The reason we're not seeing the SDK is that we're not part of the beta
developers' program for it, either.  Really sucks to be us, eh? :)

 -Shag

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Thanks Shag. I went through a little panic - wait a minute, wasn't I
looking at this file in notepad and now I can't!!! 

Where can I get info about geos.ini? I regularily use a sparc at work
and would like to configure geos to look a little more familiar!



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From: mtichy@fraser.sfu.ca (Martin Tichy)
Subject: Re: Third-Party Terminal Program for V2.0 (etc)
Keywords: Names Left Out to Protect Innocent
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 07:10:29 GMT

> He's also been mumbling lately about bi-directional transfer
> protocols, and support for soundcards, but those two are _firmly_
> in the realm of rumors for now.

Oh, ***I can't stand it!  I'm already having pre-GEOS 2.0 withdrawl
syndrome.  Well, I'm sure it's been said a thousand times on here
but I think Telmate 3.1 for GWE would be the perfect app. with the
inclusion of BioModem.  Bimodem is awsome, I love being able to up
load, download and chat at the same time.  The transfers give more
cps than Z-modem or Y-modem-G does.
 
Soundcard support.  I need that two.  It's got to be for the Gravis
Ultrasound.  They GWE and the GUS have two things in common,
they're inexpensive and they're of execlellent quality.


Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
From: jeff@eng.umd.edu (Jeffrey Frey)
Subject: DRDOS6.0 and 1.2 vs. PRO?
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 14:09:47 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

I decided to take the plunge and install DRDOS 6.0 on my 286 (as
a trial) because of its reputed quick-chnge capability for GeoWorks.
As part of my research for this change I browsed in several DRDOS6.0
manuals at the local bookstore; only one had an entry in its index for
GeoWorks.  That one said that   Geoworks PRO has a menu button, or 
whatever, for TaskMax.  Is this really an addition on PRO that my 1.2
doesn't have?  Does this make it worthwhile to install PRO instead of my
ol' favorite 1.2? (That's one ting about GEOS--we don't have too many
versions to choose among).

Jeff

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Thanks Shag. I went through a little panic - wait a minute, wasn't I
looking at this file in notepad and now I can't!!! 

Where can I get info about geos.ini? I regularily use a sparc at work
and would like to configure geos to look a little more familiar!





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From: dtaylor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Douglas A Taylor)
Subject: PC/GEOS FAQ List part 3/3 -- Updates to the FAQ
Followup-To: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Summary: PC/GEOS is a GUI (Graphical User Interface) developed by
         GeoWorks.  It runs on top of MS (or DR) DOS and provides
         a multitasking, multithreaded environment for any DOS
         machine with at least 512k of RAM and a hard disk.
Reply-To: doug-taylor+@osu.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 13:19:07 GMT

Archive-name: pcgeos-faq/part3
Last-modified: modified September 25, 1992

I rewrote the sections on PC/GEOS version 2, using information 
recently posted here by John Wiley.  I also deleted the question about 
GEOS being released in April '92 with the capability to run DOS and 
Windows apps.  Nobody believes that any more, do they?

#Q:  When is PC/GEOS 2.0 going to be launched? 
#
#    According to Brian Dougherty (GW's CEO) at the San Diego Computer 
#    Fair, v2 will enter testing at the end of this month (Sept '92), 
#    and go to beta this Fall.  It sounds like we can expect it to be 
#    released (along with a slew of 3rd-party apps) sometime around 
#    late 1st quarter of '93.
#
#Q:  What new features will it include? 
#
#A: Here's what I've heard.  This info is comes from Brian Dougherty's 
#    talk at the San Diego Computer Fair in mid September '92 and on a 
#    demonstration given to the German GEOS Users' Club in March '92.
#
#    GeoWrite - The new version will have four times the features of 
#    the old version (according to BD), yet will be under 50k.  Some 
#    new features I've heard about include text wrapping around 
#    pictures and improved import & export functions
#
#    GeoComm - Won't be substantially improved, although a separate 
#    comm app will be commercially available.  [I hope they at least 
#    fix the term-emulation bugs and add Zmodem!]
#
#    Geoworks database and spreadsheet applications - The name of the 
#    database is not official, but the working name is GeoBase.  It 
#    will be able to import GeoDex documents and possibly other formats 
#    as well.
#
#    GeoAladdin - I assume that this is a PC/GEOS verison of the 
#    Aladdin navigation program for GEnie.
#
#    DOS task-switching - DOS task-switching capability is built into 
#    v2, but it will not multi-task DOS apps.  BD predicted that 
#    interest in running DOS apps will decline rapidly in the next two 
#    years.
#
#    Novell Netware - Netware code will be in v2, and GW will 
#    eventually not require DOS at all (v2 still does).
#
#    General stuff - more Video drivers, including SVGA and support for 
#    256 colors; color printing; "intelligent" print drivers.
#
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
From: slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Dougherty thoughts and PC/GEOS in the media
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:39:40 GMT

The following is portions from EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES by Tom Campbell 
from the Jan '93 issue of COMPUTE (re-printed without permission -- 
please don't sue!)
 
"In 1995 our two boys, Peter and John, will be halfway through high 
school and on its cusp, respectively.  Brian Dougherty of GeoWorks 
thinks they'll be slipping personal information managers (PIMs) in 
their backpacks... Dougherty, who's already earned his place in 
history for creating GeoWorks, the Windows that should have been, 
knows as well as the next person just how lucrative it could be if 
Peter and John were carrying user-friendly palmtops to help them track 
assignments and bone up for Language Arts, whatever that is.  He also 
knows it'll mean better hardware at a fraction of the current price, 
and he knows whereof he speaks.  Hush-hush deals in the works to 
develop the next-generation user interface software also tell him that 
the price will be right: under $500 for a palmtop of the Newton 
variety.
 
[then there's something about Modular Windows and that it will appear 
in "Tandy's new multimedia player" and something about "the dawn of 
Windows NT, a Lego-like operating system that's only 60K at its 
core."]
 
"GeoWorks is still the king of lightweight operating systems with 
heavyweight features, but it isn't the only player in the game.  And 
it doesn't have 20 000 working developers in its court."
 
---
 
It's good to see that GeoWorks is still occasionally mentioned in the 
press.  (There was a reasonably favorable article comparing a wide 
variety of GUIs in PC WORLD a few months ago.)  
 
However, this seems to be the *very* tail-end of publicity for 
GeoWorks Pro.  COMPUTE was (as far as I know) the last magazine 
GeoWorks was running a monthly ad in -- and as of this month, that 
also seems to have ended.
 
And when leafing through PC Magazine, I notice that many mail-order 
houses have removed GeoWorks Pro from their product lists.
 
Here's hoping that GeoWorks doesn't fade out -- and that we can hope 
for an extreme resurgence of PC/GEOS media support in the new year!
 
Merry Christmas.
 
Stephen Legge
SLEGGE@kean.ucs.mun.ca
From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: DRDOS6.0 and 1.2 vs. PRO?
Date: 30 Dec 92 18:18:49 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

dtaylor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Douglas A Taylor) writes:

>In article <1992Dec30.140947.18107@eng.umd.edu> jeff@eng.umd.edu (Jeffrey Frey) writes:
>>GeoWorks.  That one said that   Geoworks PRO has a menu button, or 
>>whatever, for TaskMax.  Is this really an addition on PRO that my 1.2
>>doesn't have?  Does this make it worthwhile to install PRO instead of my
>>ol' favorite 1.2? (That's one ting about GEOS--we don't have too many
>>versions to choose among).

>    The DR Dos TaskMax (task switcher) ships with the update version 
>    6.01 of DR Dos.  The task switching is only supported in Pro (not 
>    in v1.2). The current support allows you to cut/paste between 
>    PC/GEOS applications and DOS applications. 

>Shag could (and probably will :-) tell you more about it.

If you run Pro with DRDOS 6.0 (as I do), the Express Menu includes a
TaskMax Control... option.  Selecting it allows you to create, run, or
delete TaskMax tasks.  There's also a toggle for Clipboard Support, but
I haven't tried it... Other TaskMax tasks also show up in the Express
Menu itself, intermingled with your GEOS processes.  It's easy to spot
them, since they're in all capitals.

The only thing you need to remember is to run TaskMax _first_, and then
run GEOS.  This sets up GEOS as a task, allocating some amount of memory
to it.  Then, when you call another task, GEOS is just swapped out, not
shut down altogether.  If you use Zmodem or other external programs
frequently, this is a Good Thing.  You can even make a launcher for an
external program, and have it come up on your Express/Startup menu, then
run as a TaskMax task.  Almost as good as having it run _in_ GEOS. ;)

The only caveat is that if GEOS is run under TaskMax, it will NOT be given
access to lots of extended memory.  If you're going to be editing files 
that use a lot of extended memory, it's best to drop out of GEOS, turn off
TaskMax, and re-run GEOS.

-Shag

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
From: johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU (John D. Mitchell)
Subject: Re: Dougherty and Pen Computing
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:25:46 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.000843.4528@eng.umd.edu> jeff@eng.umd.edu (Jeffrey
Frey) writes:
>In Yesterday's (Dec. 20) NYTimes, Business Section, an article on
>sub-sub-notebook computers quoted Brian Dougherty of Geoworks on Pen-type
>applications.  So Geoworks seems to have a considerable amount of
>visibility in this area.

Yes, GeoWorks has quite a bit of visibility in this area because GEOS is,
by far, the most powerful, practical technology to enable consumer
computing devices.  Nobody else is even close.  [Gee, no bias here :-)]
Modular Windows (or whatever MS is calling it :-) supposedly can run from
ROM in 1 MB of RAM.  And MS only had to take out 25% of the Windows 3.1 API
to do it.  Gee, that just means that the applications will just have to be
even larger than their currently bloated size to run.  Seems like
somebody's missing something and I don't think it's me (well, not in this
particular instance anyways :-). :-? :-)

Anyways, just as an aside... Brian gives presentations and/or in on
conference panels quite often.  If you get a chance to attend, I'd highly
recommend it.

>Is this a hint to us all that the reason we're not seeing 2.0 or the SDK
>is because the vast GW programming staff is predominantly occupied with
>the Pen/GEOS software?

Haven't my previous posts on this subject been distilled into the
FAQ (sorry, I haven't been reading it lately :-) yet?  Anyways, the short
answer is no, the GeoWorks staff are all working very hard to produce an
excellent product that spans the entire gamut of computing devices.

Hope this helps,
		John
 




Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks
From: jcreem@Rapnet.Sanders.Lockheed.Com (Jeffrey M. Creem x5700)
Subject: Re: exabyte 8500 manual
Organization: Sanders Associates
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 21:35:09 GMT

>The manual i'm using for the exabyte 8500 is:
>
>EXB-8500 8mm Cartridge Tape Subsystem Users Manual #510201-002
>revision date dec 1991.
>
>The density value is on page 12-10. 
>The only difference (that i can see) between density 0x15 and 0x00
>is that 0x15 will return an error if you try to set the density when 
>not at LBOT.
>
>phil perillat
>phil@naic.edu

 Thanks.
 A note to anyone who might still be having problems with the exabyte.
 We have finally solved our problem. In the newer versions
of vxWorks (I'll have to get the version number for anyone who needs it)
the semaphore time out feature now works.  The mv167 scsi driver uses
a semaphore to wait for responses from the tape drive but it times
out on any request where the data from the drive is not ready (ie an
initial read operation). It looks like the drivers we not set up for
tapes (just disks or fast scsi devices). We got a fix from wind river
which basically set a WAIT_FOREVER on the semaphore.  Seems to work
well now.

   Jeff Creem
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks
From: thor@thor.atd.ucar.edu (Richard Neitzel)
Subject: No one minding the store
Organization: National Center for Atmospheric Research
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time there will be no human in charge of the archive, so complaints, requests, etc. will have
to wait.

See ya!
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Box 3000 Boulder, CO 80307-3000	                Gjo'i med sitt shinn
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From: herman@sgl.ists.ca (Herman Tan)
Subject: VxWorks for PC platforms?
Organization: Institute for Space and Terrestrial Science
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:30:26 GMT

Anyone knows if VxWorks has been ported to PC platforms like the
386's or 486's ?

Thanks.

Herman Tan
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