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From: tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch)
Subject: Re: Series' beginnings
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:30:23 GMT

intertxt@network.ucsd.edu (Jason Snell) writes:

[Summary:  Otto Heuer thinks that "Encounter at Farpoint" is at about a 
midpoint of TNG quality, and that "Where No Man Has Gone Before" stinks on
ice.]

>Wow, Otto, I think you're totally out of the water here. 

Agreed...especially on the latter.  I don't think EaF was as truly miserable
as you say, Jason; there are certainly several shows I'd put way below it.
But WNMHGB is one of my favorites.

[Oh...shows I'd put well below EaF?  How about "Justice", "Haven", "Home
Soil", "Menage a Troi", "Devil's Due", "Qpid", "Disaster" and "The Outcast"
for off-the-top-of-my-head examples? :-) ]

>show's only satisfying bits are the introductions to the characters
>(Picard/Riker, Bev/Wes, Bev/Picard, Riker/Data) and the Data/McCoy scene.

Agreed.  But I find those bits satisfying enough that it brings EaF above
the "unmitigated crap" line by far.

Tim Lynch
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: and the oscar goes to
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:06:03 EST
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

RLL>        I think T2 deserved it,  even though the makeup for TUC was excelle
   >it was nothing we have never seen before and don't see weekly on TNG.  With
   >the practice Paramount and crew have had at making Klingons it is hard to
   >imagine the Academy would be willing to give them an award for something th
   >do all the time.

        The Klingons ARE basic, but the variety of aliens at Rura Penthe
was excellent.  I liked the big I-keep-my-genitals-at-my-knees monster
the best, because his makeup was the most intricate.
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: ras@kepler.unh.edu (Robert A Seace)
Subject: Re: Occurance of 18 in ST: TNG
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 11:40:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.175627.221551@cs.cmu.edu> mwgertz+@cs.cmu.edu (Matthew Gertz) writes:
>ras@kepler.unh.edu (Robert A Seace) writes:
>>bob@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (robert s. richardson) writes:
>>>But remember, by an amazing coincidence:  18 * 2.333 (repeating) = 42
>>>Does anyone have a question for this?
>>	How about this:
>>	What is the average IQ of r.a.s.* posters?
>What's an I.Q?  How do I send away for one?  Is this mentioned in the FAQL?
>

	I believe Creation sells them (along with anything and everything
else in existance) at their conventions.  Probably run you a few hundred
bucks...  If you're lucky, you might get one autographed by Shatner... ;-)

||======================================================================||
||  Robert A. Seace  ||  Junior at UNH  ||  E-mail: ras@kepler.unh.edu  ||
||    AKA: Agrajag   ||     CS major    ||  or, maybe: ras@nic.unh.edu  ||
||======================================================================||
"All right, you scum, you vermin... What do you want to drink?!!" - TRATEOTU

Gene Roddenberry: 1921-1991.  You will be missed.
May your dream "Live long and prosper".

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From: worth@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Jason Worthington)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current,comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Announcing the Star Trek-TNG Episode Guide stack
Date: 8 Apr 1992 11:15:50 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world,public
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

You people need to take this another newsgruup.  It doesn't belong here, and I
am tired of reading about it.
Jason Worthington
worth@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
From: pinette@fraser.sfu.ca (Gandolf the 23rd)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Mystery of Guinan revealed!!!!!
Date: 17 Apr 92 20:44:55 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

In article <1992Apr17.160803.17668@descartes.waterloo.edu> pealbers@descartes.waterloo.edu (Paul E. Albers) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.210554.6529@bsu-ucs.uucp> 00ajpayne@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
>>In article <1992Apr10.171708.1285@descartes.waterloo.edu>, pealbers@lagrange.waterloo.edu (Paul E. Albers) writes:
>>> In article <1992Apr8.221240.5922@bsu-ucs.uucp> 00jdbecktel@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
>>>>> I just figured it out......
>>>>> 
>>>>> Guinan can sense all the little time problems right?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is because she is a Time Lord.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maybe Dr. Who's last regeneration.........
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can Time Lords switch sex during regenerations?????
>>>>> 
>>>>> -J
>>>>
>>>>What? Are you sure? I never thought about it?
>>>>Ya know, that would make a cool plot. Ya know what J...I wager your right.
>>>>Hmmm switching sex during regeneration. Would explain some things.
>>>>But Dr Who?
>>>>REally J,  don't you think you're stretching it?
>>>>
>>> 
>>> When Tom Baker announced that he was leaving Dr Who he said that he wished
>>> the next Docto luck, whoever he or she might be.  This has started off the
>>> unresolved debate over wheather a female Dr. is possible.
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>That would be the most awesome thing that could happen to Dr. Who.......
>>
>>-J
>
>Not!
>
>Paul

Agreed!

-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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    / \              French for " If you only see one movie this year you
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: L660315@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: ST 25th Anniversery comp. game by interplay
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 15:01:43 GMT

I'm no expert with the game, but I've made it to level 7 so far (I'm getting
killed miserably now!).  E-mail me any questions you have and I'll respond
individually.  There's no way for me to post the hints you want without giving
it all away, unless you ask for specifics.  And I agree, it's a great game.
But isn't kind of funny how when Kirk goes somewhere, everyone else just stands
there?  Also, I hope you have a sound card (Soundblaster, AdLib, etc.); it adds
a great deal to the effect.

Jerry
From: jfriday@ada.stat.uga.edu (Paul Stacy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: What would YOU like to see a Galaxy class ship named?
Date: 11 Apr 92 16:00:07 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia Statistics Department

In article <1992Apr8.161432.10094@zeus.franklin.edu> iacovone@zeus.franklin.edu (Daniel R. Iacovone) writes:
>In article <1992Apr05.213045.15588@r-node.gts.org> yung@r-node.gts.org (Amos Yung) writes:
>>
>>How about USS Exxon?  :^)
>
>Better yet-
>             USS Valdeze.
>
>It could cause an antimatter spill around Jupiter. 

What if it were to be one of the (apparently FASA-only) Alaska-class
ships?  That would go over REAL well.  (-:




Paul "Joe Friday" Stacy (not net.police)       Buffalo State College, New York
STACY54@SNYBUFVA.BITNET (Buffalo State College VAX)                JUST THE
jfriday@marie.stat.uga.edu (Univ. of Georgia, Athens UNIX)      "VAX", MA'AM!
Disclaimer:  This isn't the opinion of the school, police, Chief of Detective
             Staff Brown, Planet Spaceball, Starfleet Command, or the Pentagon.
From: flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip Russell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Asimov Lost
Date: 12 Apr 92 16:43:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.44987

In article <sdtRSyy00WBL43uFpC@andrew.cmu.edu>, bt16+@andrew.cmu.edu (Bill Thomas) writes:
> 
> But if you mean Asimov was the last of Star Trek's founders, I wonder:
> How so? I don't recall that Asimov ever contributed to a Star Trek
> episode, 

I read somewhere that Asimov was a consultant for STAR TREK: THE MOTION
PICTURE. I don't think he did anything else with ST.

though I would guess he enjoyed the show -- more than he
> enjoyed "2001" apparently. AC Clarke was interviewed on NPR the day
> Asimov died and said that Asimov stormed out of the theater when he
> realized that HAL was capable of killing humans (a violation of the
> first Law of Robotics, I believe).
>

Asimov told this story in one of his recent editorial for Asimov's Science
Fiction Magazine. Clarke reminded him how silly his reaction was and \
Isaac went back in and enjoyed the film.
 
> If Asimov was "the last of our founders," who were the others (besides
> Roddenberry, of course).
> 
> One other note, Tasha Yar once mentioned that Data represented "Asimov's
> idea of a positronic brain" -- or something like that.
> 
> Anyway, does anyone know if Asimov contributed to Star Trek, or what he
> thought of the show?
> 

I think in the same editorial mentioned above, Isaac discussed how
silly sf was in television. Then he said that he watched
STAR TREK: TNG and liked it.


I don't remember which issue the mentioned editorial was in, but
I do know that it was this winter and I can look it up if anyone
is interested in knowing.

-flip

flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu
From: mary@fresh-and-fruity.ai.mit.edu (Mary S. Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Really bad TNG episodes (was Re: 3 more reviews)
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:33:17 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory

In article <1992Apr16.002347.23394@cco.caltech.edu> tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:
>mary@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu (Mary S. Lee) writes:
 [comparing the merits, or lack thereof, of "Justice," "QPid", 
  "The Royale" et al...]
>>Although I thought that "QPid" was a very poor episode, I know several
>>people who liked it, and I remember others defending it on r.a.s.  
>
>So?  :-)  I know people who thought "Disaster" was the funniest thing they'd
>seen in years.  There's no accounting for taste.  :-)
>
>>On the other hand, I can't recall *anyone* saying they liked
>>"Justice."  Therefore "Justice" may be a better candidate for worst
>>episode, as it appears to be almost universally disliked.  [Uh oh,
>>visions of hundreds of irritated "Justice" fans frantically typing
>>at their keyboards...]
>
>If we want to gauge "badness" by sheer unpopularity, then Jason Snell
>ought to be able to fill us in with the last poll results on the
>bottom ten.  (If I remember that one right, "The Loss" was the least
>favorite, with "Qpid" and "The Royale" *and* "Justice" all in the
>bottom 10.)

Not quite correct.  That is what I had in mind, but referring to Otto
Heuer's handy TREK RATE results we have...

0.246  46 SHADES OF GREY (N) 
0.306  44 JUSTICE (N) 
0.347  55 ROYALE, THE (N) 
0.348  42 ANGEL ONE (N) 
0.358  51 LOSS, THE (N) 
0.379  34 LONELY AMONG US (N) 
0.386  46 CHILD, THE (N) 
0.410  12 NEW GROUND (N) 
 ...
 some fifty odd other episodes
 ...
0.604  60 QPID (N) 

Which is roughly what I wished to say originally -- "QPid" may not be
Atsushi's cup of tea, or Tim's, or mine, but it's seems very far from
being the least popular episode.  The same cannot be said for "Justice."

N.B.  I have only seen "Shades of Grey" once, but that was enough to
convince me that it may truly be worse than "Justice."  :(

Mary Soon Lee    (mary@ai.mit.edu)
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From: scasterg@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stuart M Castergine)
Subject: Re: Announcing the Star Trek-TNG Episode Guide stack
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: world,public
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 22:19:27 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.195035.2476@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:
>
>In the unlikely event that anyone would *want* two monitors, it is certainly
>possible to connect two to any PC with VGA or better.  Although Windows 
>itself will only run on one, any application can write into the address
>space of the other monitor.
>

Here I am, with two monitors, and Apple 13" RGB and an Apple 12" B&W.
Did you know that with low-level system support of multiple monitors
on the Mac, that you don't have to have specific applications writeen
to support multiple monitors? that all applications and windows can be
moved seemlessly from one window to the other. What you have, in
effect, is one much larger monitor. The system software even allows you
to simply set the orientation of the monitors to each other
(above/below, side by side, off center), and to set each monitor to
different color depths so that windows are automatically redrawn with
proper color pallettes for that monitor. You can even have windows
span monitors. The feature has immense utility.

Sorry, what you are describing on the PC doesn't even begin to compare.

>
>Except that real computers have OFF switches.  When a Mac locks up (and they
>do this often!) it has to be unplugged.

Ever hear of the reset button? Most Macs have them. I hate the ones
that don't -- the key combination that gives the same effect doesn't
always work.

>

But what does this have to do with Star Trek? An dwhat does *that*
have to do with Hypercard?

-- 
scasterg@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu -- Stuart M. Castergine

Wake the Witch!
From: lgauvin@sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu (Lisa Gauvin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Star trek and psychology
Date: 13 Apr 1992 21:45:44 GMT
Organization: Space Science Labs
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu

Hello,
	Have a question relating to Spock and psychology.  
Okay here goes, I work at the Center for EUV Astrophysics, and
the group that I am in is called the EGO group, which stands
for the Euv Guest Observer.  Keeping with the "ego" theme, we all
name our workstations after mental illness and such.  For 
example, we have superego, id, neurosis, hysteria.  Anyways
with Spock being have half human half vulcan we are wondering
what one would call a person, like Spock, who repress his
emotions.  All we could come up with are:

1.  obsessive/compulsive:  denial of emotions, emphasis on thinking and order,
hard working, very responsible, not a risk taker.

2.  schizotypal: feelings are frozen, not even felt. a loner, emphasis
again on what goes on in the mind -- in this case, "magical thinking"
LIKE! "i think i am half vulcan/half human".

Does anyone have any other suggestions?  Please e-mail me if you can to
the address listed below.  I will read the group too.

Thanks
Lisa
lgauvin@ssl.berkeley.edu
From: davidc@brahms.udel.edu (David Casper)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Test, Ignore
Keywords: test, ignore
Date: 5 Apr 92 23:36:52 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

Ignore this
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From: ottoh3@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Otto Heuer #3)
Subject: Re: Series' beginnings (was something about 3 in 1 review)
To: rec.arts.startrek.misc (rec.arts.startrek.misc)
Posted-Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 14: 25:07 CDT
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Atsushi writes:

> ottoh3@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Otto Heuer #3) writes:
> >
> > [Otto lists some of his episode rankings -- check the original article
> >  if you want to see them.]
> 
> I take it back, Otto. You're not the #2 tide-bucker. You're #1, #2, #3
> and #4. 

All right!  I've graduated to the top!  :-)

> But then, calling Patrick Stewart a bad actor probably qualified you
> for the first 3 just on its own.

What?  *WHO* thinks Pat is a bad actor?

Now see what you've done, Roger?  You've got other people thinking Pat
can't act!

                --Otto "HACK-MAN" Heuer
--
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From: pburke@vms.macc.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Star Trek Fan Questionnaire
Date: 17 Apr 92 03:41:35 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center


                     TREK Fan questionnaire
   I'm trying to get an idea of who the many different fans of
Star Trek are, and how they participate in ST fandom.  I'm a
graduate student in cultural anthropology at the University of
Wisconsin-Madison (and a ST fan myself), and this is my project
for a seminar, which may be published at some point in an
academic journal.  I'd appreciate it if you could help me out.
All replies will be kept confidential and any quotes will be
anonymous.  You don't have to answer every question, but the
more, the better.  PLEASE E-MAIL REPLIES (by 5/5/92) TO:
mjindra@macc.wisc.edu  or send them to M. Jindra, 123 N. Blount
St. #104, Madison, WI 53703

1.  What is it you like most about ST?
     (e.g. the characterizations, the tech. features, plots etc.)
     Be as specific as possible.  If you want to distinguish
     between TOS and TNG you may, but it is not neccessary.
2.  What do you critique about ST?
3.  Do you watch ST with other people?
4.  Do you discuss ST with other people?
5.  With approx. how many people per week do you discuss ST?
6.  What are your chief hobbies/leisure activities?
7.  Do you know many people of the opposite sex who are ST fans?
8.  Are you a member of a ST fan club?
9.  Have you attended a ST convention?
10. Do you buy/collect ST merchandise/memorabilia?
11. Read ST novels?    fan magazines?
     fan literature? (i.e. not commercially published)
12. Have a technical manual or have looked at a friend's?
13. Do you make it a point to know ST trivia?
14. Are you into role-playing games?
15. What other ST related activities do you participate in?
16. Would you always like to see a ST series on TV (either a
     current one like TNG or any future ST related series), or do you
     think that ST should eventually end?     Why?
17. Does ST have "meaning" for you or is it just "entertainment"?
18. How accurate a picture of the future is ST?
19. What do you think of the apocalyptic (negative) view of the
     future (as in other SF movies/novels)?
20. Do you like Science Fiction in general?
21. Do you feel there is a stigma associated with being a Star
     Trek fan?  If so, why?
22. Are you active in politics in any way? If so, how? (Party
     affiliation, causes etc.)
23. Do you consider yourself conservative, moderate, or liberal?
24. Do you vote?
25. Do you have religious beliefs of your own?
     How does ST relate to them?
26. Is ST fandom in any sense a religious phenomenon? Why or why
     not?
27. What is your occupation?
     If academic, what is your discipline/department?
28. Are you male or female?   Age?

Thank you for your participation.
E-mail to mjindra@macc.wisc.edu
From: learnd@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Dave Learn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: What would YOU like to see a Galaxy Class starship named?
Keywords: my preference
Date: 14 Apr 92 00:19:49 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Lafayette College, Easton

Personal preference: the USS James_Kirk


Why?  Because 1) it would be an allusion to Classic Trek, 2) it would
be in recognition of Kirk's contributions to the Federation in general
and Star Fleet in particular, and 3) I named a Galaxy class starship
the James_Kirk in the first part of "The Cardassian Confrontation," a
multi-author story I helped write.

(It's stored at procyon.cis.ksu.edu for those of you who want to read it.
I don't have it on line so DON'T send me email asking for it.)


Dave Learn, Knight of the Wolves                    "Maddest of all: to see
                                                     life as it is, and not as
dl20@lafayacs.bitnet, learnd@lafsun.lafayette.edu    it should be."
learnd@lafcol.lafayette.edu, learnd@lafayett.bitnet          -- Cervantes
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: dsturm@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Cheers==TNG Crossovers
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:11:36 GMT

> 
>>bskendig@rise.Princeton.EDU (Brian Kendig) writes:
> 
>>>Me, I'm just waiting for Norm and Cliff to make a cameo in
>>>10-Forward...  ;)
> 
>>Heh, heh, yeah, and I'll bet that when Norm walks in, everyone will
>>look in his direction and yell in unison, "NORM!"
> 
> 	I would like to see a Cheers episode where some of the TNG or TOS
> 	are in Boston for a convention and they go to Cheers for a drink
> 	and of course the whole bar makes a big deal!
> 	Ya know, Cliff with tons of ST trivia or even have Cliff wearing a
> 	TNG uniform and have Stewart ball him out and storm out of the bar.
> 
> 
> 	Anyway there isn't a Cheers list to post it on maybe someone from NBC
> 	reads this net.
> 
> Andy

Paramount produces Cheers rather close by ST.  At least a blooper bit with
Norm & Cliff imbibing at 10-Forward'ld be a great poster!
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re:Re:Short comment on wesley (yuk) <-- hey!
From: litt@wittenberg.edu
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:25:56 -0400
Organization: Wittenberg University

Wesley left for the Acadamy because Wil Wheaton was just a little bit more
interested in going to college than being typecast as Wesley Crusher

			not all that hard to understand
From: luther@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Luther)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: THE FIRST DUTY questions (spoilers!)
Date: 8 Apr 92 11:36:55 GMT
Organization: US Naval Research Laboratory, Acoustics Division

In article <2920037@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM> gvg@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Greg Goebel) writes:

>
>And what was the name of the actor who played the dead cadet's father?  I've
>seen that guy do so many bit and small parts in movies that he must have 
>steady work all year round.  (I know he played a cop in ROCKETEER and 
>RAW DEAL; wasn't he the villain -- a big role -- in ACTION JACKSON?)
>

I don't know his name, but wasn't he one of the miners in "Mudd's
Women" from TOS??


---------------------------------------------------

" 'Eureka' is Greek for 'This bath is too hot'. "
			- Tom Baker / Doctor Who
	Ken Luther
	Naval Research Lab.
	Washington, D.C. 
	luther@caligula.nrl.navy.mil
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From: barker@enel.ucalgary.ca (Scott Barker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Troi nude gifs (where?!?)
Date: 12 Apr 1992 23:14:41 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Dealine has come and go. No more requests will be satisfied. Please do not
disturb me. Sometime in the future I may offer this again, but not right
now. I have exams (ARGH!!!!). Everyone who responded before the deadline has
either received the gifs, or else I couldn't get through to them. If I
couldn't get through, I'm sorry, but the internet is not a benevolent god.
Try requesting the gifs from someone else (ie start a new thread, heavy on the
begging).

-- 
Thank you for your attention.
==============================================================================
Scott Barker
barker@enel.ucalgary.ca

"Magick is doing the right thing, in the right place, at the right time. If you
   think that is too simple try doing it."
   - Maurice Druon, The Memoirs of Zeus
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