Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Moana's posting...a clean mature debate.
From: cvafy006@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu (Daniel Rouse, Jr.)
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:43:16 PST
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvafy006

In article <35116@olympus.wustl.edu>, moana@darla.wustl.edu (Moana Lombardi) writes:
> Ah, Daniel ... You seemed to be a nice poster: you first couple of posts
> were interesting, well articolated and different from the other 99% of the
> crap that travels under this newsgroup.
> 
> So why did you decided to abruptly change the style of your flames?
> I can agree that the target - Michele - is worth the shot, but why 
> you decaded in trivialityies that also Walsh can punctualize?
> 
> I'm definitely not the queen of flames (and I leave this honor to 
> postmistress and the other nice girls of the net), but allow my
> criticizes:
> 
> Daniel Rouse writes:
>>
>>	Just a little note:  whether or not this is his real name...Michele is
>>posting under the profile name Tony Zugates.  My question is...is Michele
>>supposed to be Italian for Michael, or this Tony person using Michele to
>>represent Michelle?  Judging by the postings I have received...how feeble and
>>unaffecting they appear to me...I'll go with the latter.  Michele...if you are
>>reading this...who's the fag now.  Hell, I'm straight, and the name Daniel is
>>truly a masculine name...Michele is MOSTLY (defintion:  almost always...)
>>read as "Michelle".  Why the heck a male would use a female psedonym makes me
>>wonder who the fag is...it's YOU Michele!  
> 
> This old mith has tired me up. Michele is the male name for Michela
> (== Michelle), and it is an absolutely common italian male name.
> So, Daniel, if those are the fact, please find something more sound.
> 
>>Go post to someone else...you bore
>>the hell out of me--that and your postings are so simplistic that I have to
>>laugh.  
> 
> I couldn't agree more with you about this point.
> Unfortunately I don't laugh, but i think how low reputation italian people 
> is getting here in the net thanks to Michele's postings (well, as low as 
> english people reputation gets thanks to Walsh ones :-)
> 
>>I can't believe you can't tell the difference byetween amusing (getting
>>a good hearty laugh out of something) and exciting (the opposite of boring). 
>>Go read Webster's dictionary and post the definition 1000 times (in one
>>posting, in case you don't understand what I mean) and you just might match up
>>to the average of all the people's IQ's in the USA.  I don't think you can ever
>>achieve that much intelligence...
> 
> This is clueless. How you can complain about this? Michele has not idea
> of the difference between 'lose' and 'loose', and you are talking about
> sixth grade questions? Be more tolerant, Daniel.
> 
>>and I don't think I'll be proven wrong given
>>your lack of popularity on the network.  
> 
> Definitely. 
> 
>>No...maybe they didn't get
>>Michele...but I did!  There's no way in hell you can counter flame this
>>posting because most of it is not emotional flaming...it's fact!  
>>Now piss off!
> 
> If those are the only facts you can propose, well, you are very far from
> being declared King of flames. Anyway carry on, Daniel. You're on the
> right way (at least the final target is right).
> 
> Cheers. Moana.

	Thank you for the compliment Moana.  You can be sure of this...I will
flame a person perosnally only if they do it to me.  You will note that I was
called a "Son of a Bi***", a "Fag", and a "Fu**ing idiot".  So, I retaliated. 
You'll have to pardon my ignorance in names...but I'm learning.  My ability to
flame (semi) tastefully is thanks to one class, IGE 220, part of the eight
class IGE series (IGE=Interdisciplinary General Education).  Although IGE
120,121, and 122 sucked (they were based on art...and nothing more--definitely
not INTERDISCIPLINARY), IGE 220 was sort of like an advocacy and argument
class...thus my abilty to flame tastefully.  How ever, when provoked
sufficiently...you might see an occasional horrible flame (w/ profanity --
provided I am mad enough) but in general...if someone holds their fire...they
won't get any.  They will actually be able to DEBATE me reather than flame me. 
The issues being discussed will actually be issues...not emotional flames.

					Daniel Rouse, Jr.
					Sophomore, Computer Engineering