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From: jstump@auntbea.austin.ibm.com (John E. Stump)
Subject: Re: Bernoulli/SyQuest
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:24:46 GMT
Organization: IBM AWD Austin, TX

In article <727748701.AA34908@remote.halcyon.com> Chris.Bugosh@f340.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Chris Bugosh) writes:
>Can I have some horror/success stories on setting up Linux on either of
>these two boxes?  I'd also know what controller you're using...  I hear
>that the controller that comes with the Bernoulli from Hard Drives
>International doesn't work.  Is the adapter that comes with the SyQuest
>compatible?  Thanks for any/all info.
>
>Chris
>
> * Origin: The MIDI Exchange - Columbus, Ohio - (614) 846-1274
>(1:226/340)
>

I have a SyQuest 44MB attached to a Seagate ST-01 SCSI card in my 486DX
clone. Up until Linux 0.99pl4, it would not allow me to do any writes to
the disk without crashing. Now it works, except for a few spurious error
messages that I believe are harmless.

There are a couple of weaknesses in it though: (1) when a rather large
buffer cache is being flushed to the Syquest, interrupts are turned off
and the system in literally locked up until the write is done (which is
slow since this is a Syquest), and (2) although the Syquest is a
"mountable" hard disk, the partition table on the cartridge is only
read once during boot up, so you are out of luck if you want to umount
and mount a different cartridge while the system is up and running.

Not that I'm complaining, though.
-- 
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"Socrates was a famous Greek teacher who went around giving people
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: S_SPECKER@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Specker Alexander)
Subject: Re: Emacs meta key in SLS
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:52:00 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.25beta

In <1993Jan20.154017.17844@aristo.tau.ac.il> flibedin@libra.math.tau.ac.il writes:

> I'm using Emacs from the SLS distribution and it doesn't recognize
> the ALT key as meta. Is there any way to change it (~/.emacs)??
> 
> thanks,
> flibedin@math.tau.ac.il

You have to set this in the Kernel-Makefile and
recompile it.
Have a look to the Makefile and you will find it.
It's somewhere in the keyboard-settings.
(Sorry, at the moment i don't know exactly
where).
I hope this helps
Alex

=====================================================================
Alexander Specker   S_SPECKER@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de
Boehmeweg 85
7900 Ulm
  'Life is like a turkey, anyway you slice it, it's still a turkey.'   
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: sjr@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Stephen J. Roznowski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Status of Amiga port of LINUX?
Date: 24 Jan 93 21:29:30 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

I've heard rumors of a port of LINUX being made to the Amiga?
Can anyone give the status of this port, or Email address of
the people who are supposed to be doing it?

Thanks,
-- 
Stephen J. Roznowski	(sjr@afterlife.ncsc.mil)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mcfall@cs.hope.edu (Ryan Mcfall)
Subject: Re: gcc 2.3.3 problem
Reply-To: mcfall@cs.hope.edu
Organization: Hope College
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:48:15 GMT

In article 4734@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk, a080700@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk (Stephen Wong S M) writes:
> I'm using linux 0.99pl4/SLS 1.0/gcc 2.3.3/lib 4.2 and I test the
> gcc compiler with the following program:-
> 
> test_sqrt.c
> #include <math.h>
> #include <stdio.h>
> main()
> {   double a;
>     a = 2;
>     printf("square root of 2 is %f\n", sqrt(a));
> }
> 
> I use the following command line to compile:-
> gcc -lm -o test_sqrt test_sqrt.c
> 
> but I got the following error message:-
> /usr/tmp/cca001331.o: Undefined symbot _sqrt referenced from text segment
> 
> Then I tried another command line:-
> gcc -o test_sqrt test_sqrt.c /usr/lib/libm.a
> 
> and succeed.
> 
> My question is, is it a bug in gcc 2.3.3/lib 4.2 (libm.a), or something
> I misunderstand?
> 

I've run into the same problems when trying to link in other libraries.  
gcc 2.3.3/lib 4.2 does not seem to be able to find the files unless you give
it a full pathname.  Including the -L/usr/lib options does not help either.

Ryan McFall
mcfall@cs.hope.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jwinstea@fenris.claremont.edu (Jim Winstead Jr.)
Subject: Re: why does 'df' sync?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, WIBSTR
Date: 26 Jan 93 04:26:17 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.013101.17495@nettis.norlin.se> basic@nettis.norlin.se (Daniel Brahneborg) writes:

   Can somebody /please/ tell me why 'df' always does a sync
   before displaying the numbers? If you have gcc running this
   could take a substantial amount of time.

You didn't say where your 'df' came from, but in any case, it's 99%
likely that the source came from the GNU file utilities.

On some other Unix systems, the sync() is necessary so that 'df' will
get all the current information.  This isn't necessary on Linux
because of the way that Linux keeps track of the various information.

The problem is, the GNU df is set up to do the sync(), and only if
whoever compiled the program ifdef's out the sync() do you get the
extra speed of not having to wait for a sync().

Basically, if it's that big of a deal to you, get the source to the
GNU file utilities and recompile, after editing out the code that does
a sync() in src/df.c.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: siegl@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Kurt Siegl)
Subject: Re: Bad blocks (?) on hard disk
Organization: RISC, J.K. University of Linz, Austria
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:06:15 GMT

In article <C1HAqs.Lyv@world.std.com>, tgc@world.std.com (Terry Carlin) writes:
> rob@dinner.asrc.albany.edu (Robert D. Seals) writes:
> : Things seems sensible except that bad blocks on the hard disks

> One should:    mkfs -c /dev/whatever howbig

This doesn't solve all problems. There are also additional problems 
which should be solved somehow in future releases:

If your HD is not that bad mkfs will not mark all bad blocks imediately. There
is no -c option in fsck (efsck has already has this option) and therefore no way to 
correct it afterwards.

In case of a bad block on the beginning of the HD you can't generate a swap file,
because while creating that file Linux starts reading from the beginning of the
disk physically and stops as soon it gets a bad block with infinite HD errors.
Because of that problem I can only generate a 2.5MB swap file on my system :-(

Kurt
From: mike@sirius.kbsi.COM (Mike Futrell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: xdm on linux 0.99.3 problems
Date: 22 Jan 1993 22:18:50 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: sirius.kbsi.com


Hello All --

I'm having some problems getting xdm to work on my 486.  I'm
running linux 0.99.3.  The machine has an Orchid Prodesigner IIs
card, and I've configured Xconfig appropriately (i think!).  I
can 'startx' without problems, but when I try to run xdm it
comes up with garbage on the screen.  I hit 'return', and it 
sometimes draws the login box, but then the system locks up.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Regards,
Mike Futrell
From: kbj@po.CWRU.Edu (Kevin B. Jacobs)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Yet another SCSI problem (also, good news and bad news)
Date: 21 Jan 1993 15:42:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: kbj@po.CWRU.Edu (Kevin B. Jacobs)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Well, thanks to a lot of time wasted on technical support for my
WD-7000FASST2 SCSI controller card and its non-standard partitioning and
actually talking to the engineer that wrote the partitioning scheme, my
SCSI device is recognized.  It turned out that by not specifically removing
the non-standard partition it left the partition table moved over 50
sectors, so nothing could read it but dos (which the ROM BIOS redirected).

It was all working fine till I installed my new IDE drive.  Now with my IDE
as primary drive, SLS disk a1 no longer detects my controller card or my
SCSI devices correctly.  I get 0 SCSI 0 cd-rom, etc...  I also get the line

Warning WD8013 card not found at i/o=280

I assume the WD8013 is a network adapter.  I have no idea why its not
detecting correctly, but I've done several hours of tinkering with no luck.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Kevin Jacobs


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quote by:  Ralf Waldo Emerson        |   I keep, and pass, and turn again.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tep@engr.uark.edu (Tim Peoples)
Subject: Re: remove LILO?
Reply-To: tep@engr.uark.edu
Organization: University of Arkansas
Organiztion: University of Arkansas, Dept. of Computer Systems Engineering
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 23:01:05 GMT

chchen@stat (Ching-Hsiang Chen) writes:

>I am going to have a new 200mb IDE drive next week and my old 105mb IDE
>will be in my wife's PC. I had installed LILO before I saw the backup
>MBR caution in the LILO documentation. I am 99% sure that LILO had taken
>over DOS MBR. Is the only way to remove LILO and Linux from my old IDE
>to destroy all partitions setup (including my DOS partition)?
>

   If this isn't in the FAQ it should be.....

from DOS5 (at least) run "fdisk /MBR" to rewrite the DOS Master Boot Record.

-- 

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| tep@engr.uark.edu                    | to talk of many things,             |
| Dept. of Computer Systems Engineering| of simms and sockets and semaphores |
| University of Arkansas, Fayetteville | of processes and pings....          |
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From: duperval@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Duperval Laurent)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: When is next SLS release scheduled?
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:10:55 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Hi all,

I've decided to finally upgrade me 97.4 version of linux to 99.4.  I was
planning on getting the latest version of SLS to install it.  But I've been
reading a lot about a few minor glitches with the installation procedure.  So
before I decide to take up ~12 hours to download the package, I wanted to know
if a new release was planned soon (especially since the new kernel has been
sent yesterday).  If so, I'll wait a bit more patiently.  If not, then I'll
catch up to the rest of the community by next Friday (I hope...)

Thanx for any and all responses.

P.S.  I would have sent the message personnally to the author of SLS if:
	a)  I could remember who it was ;-)
    b)  I thought this was absolutely useless information for everyone.
-- 
Laurent Duperval, B. Sc.  | The opinions expressed herein are my own and
                          | do not represent those of this establishment
duperval@ere.umontreal.ca | That's because they don't have enough $$$
duperval@jsp.umontreal.ca | to afford them.  Noone does.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: king@rtsg.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist)
Subject: Re: Linux on Amiga-PC-Bridgeboard ?
Reply-To: king@rtsg.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:20:55 GMT

niels@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Niels Knoop) publicly declared:
>Has anyone ever tried to run Linux on an Amiga Bridgeboard ?
>[...]
>Although Golden Gate is said to be tested with DOS, Windows, OS/2
>and some Unix-Clone other than Linux I can't be quite sure that it
>is possible to work with Linux on my co-computer and am looking
>forward to hearing of someone who has successfully installed Linux
>on his bridgeboard or found out it is impossible.

I'd say, try it and let the rest of us know how it went.  It'll take
you the better part of a day, including backing up your hard drive, but
what the heck.  The odds are probably good that it'll work.

I think you'll need a high density drive, at least if you plan to
install the SLS distribution.  The individual packages can be split
amongst multiple low density floppies, but there's that annoying 1.2M
boot image you've got to contend with.  I don't know about other
installation methods.

Good luck!

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What color is a chameleon on a mirror?                 |      Steven King
                                                       |   Motorola Cellular
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: pen@lysator.liu.se (Peter Eriksson)
Subject: Re: lfs 0.6 --> "xfs"
Organization: Lysator ACS at Linkoping University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:04:39 GMT

mancus@carla.jsc.nasa.gov (Keith Mancus/MDSSC) writes:

>>It does, but there is already an "xfs".  There's a paper in the latest
>>issue of the X Resource which describes it.  Here is the abstract...

>  How about "lefs", for "Linux Extended File System"?  Easy to pronounce,
>very succinct, and clear.

Since all these Minix-FS based file systems are have just one new thing:
the length of the filename (almost). Why not call them "minix32" for a
minix filesystem with a 32character filename limit and etc. I mean, why
invent new names for a filesystem that just is a slightly hacked version
of a old one.

/Peter
--
Peter Eriksson                                              pen@lysator.liu.se
Lysator Academic Computer Society                 ...!uunet!lysator.liu.se!pen
University of Linkoping, Sweden                I'm still bored. Flame me again.
From: hogan@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Tuukka Uusheimo)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Linux vs 386bsd, wich to choose?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 12:38:52 GMT
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
NNTP-Posting-Host: marie.physik.tu-berlin.de

	Yes, I want a NIX-thing in my computer, so I'll ask here
wich should I choose! I have trie 386bsd for a while, but I have no
experience on Linux...

	My system :

ISA 386/40 + 387/40
8Mb RAM, (64kB cache)
Archive ???? 60MB tape drive. (DC2000 tapes, attached to floppy port)
Maxtor 7120A (130MB, AT-IDE)
Trident 8900C (Can get Tseng ET-4000, too)
Pro Audio Spectrum 16bit
Sony CD-ROM drive (connected to PAS, via SCSI(?) 8-bit)
+ I am buying another HD before installing Linux/386bsd... (100-200MB)

	So, what I would like to know is WHY should I choose Linux,
and not 386bsd? Is there some way to get my CD-ROM to work with Linux?
What about the tape drive? Is the source code available on CD?

	If there is somebody out there that could help me, please answer,
e-mail or to this news group...

					Tuukka Uusheimo
				e-main: hogan@kannel.lut.fi (redirected)
					hogan@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de
From: buchanan@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (BUCHANAN TIMOTHY E)
Subject: Re: uucico won't dial
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:58:18 GMT

Using the SLS99p2 I wrote mail to csn!tbuck. It posted 3 files in
/usr/spool/uucp/csn which look right. I tried /usr/lib/uucp/uucico -Scsn
and nothing happened. 

In /usr/lib/uucp I have Devices set to /dev/ttyS3, and kermit works when
set to /dev/ttyS3 or /dev/modem ln'd to that. I have an entry in Systems
for csn, including a chat script, set to use ACU. So why won't uucico dial?

Could someone also comment on the proper format for /usr/lib/uucp/paths?
I want all mail to be routed to csn via uucp transfer.

Also, can I change hostname to something else in rc.local?

Thanks,
Timothy.
From: gw18@prism.gatech.EDU (Greg Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: ada for linux anyone ???? where ???
Date: 21 Jan 93 13:32:48 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <1993Jan20.215145.935@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> jbuckner@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (James A. Buckner) writes:

>In article <C15xIv.153@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> dpdabrow@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Darek Dabrowski) writes:
>> I am looking for Ada for linux, compatible with alsys hopefully :)

>Put me on the list also.

The closest you're going to be able to get is the AdaEd package.  It's actually
an Ada interpreter that was written to make Ada easily available to schools
so that it can be taught.  There's supposedly a GNU Ada project under way.
However, the problem with Ada over other languages is that it has to be
validated with the gov't validation process.  This takes time and money, and is
why most commercial Ada packages are so expensive.

As far as the AdaEd package goes, I got it to compile with little difficulty.
It doesn't run programs very fast, but it gets the job done, and that's all
you're going to find for now.

-- 
Greg Williams
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp:	  ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gw18
Internet: gw18@prism.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: Bad blocks (?) on hard disk
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:57:18 GMT

Terry Carlin (tgc@world.std.com) wrote:

: Well, my experiences tell me it works at least with the 1542
: controller.  I just got an old 20 meg SCSI drive which used to sit on
: a Mac.  I partitioned it and did the mkfs -c /dev/sda1 20000.  Worked
: well.  It found and marked ~15 bad blocks.  To test it out, I tar'ed
: a 60 meg disk over to the 20 meg drive until it complained about
: running out of space.  I then did a dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/null and
: it went without error.  I guess I could really put it through a long
: repeating test, but I probably won't put anything on it that would
: be critical, 'cause the disk is ~5 years old and may bite the dust at
: any sec.

It used not to work, but Linus tells me that this was fixed around 0.98.5
or so.

I hope he's right... ;)
-- 
Ed Carp			erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com	801/538-0177

"It is your resistance to 'what is' that causes your suffering."   -- Buddha
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ruhtra@turing.toronto.edu (Arthur Tateishi)
Subject: Re: Safety Belt / SLS
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:00:50 GMT

In article <ePaRXB4w165w@kf8nh.wariat.org> kf8nh@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes:
>This and several other quotes I recall but didn't save basically say "don't
>bother with any safety features, with Unix you're SUPPOSED to jump out of
>the plane without a parachute".  Which is the "hackers-only" attitude that
>is why (just as an example) all the Unix folks are running scared in the
>face of Windows NT, which I guarantee you will not have this problem.

You can also expect the Windows/NT "parachute" to stay open all the time
and develop frequent tears in the cloth.

I'm not afraid of Windows/NT. I just don't expect to own a machine to 
run it for another 3 years at least.  Not to mention the disk space.
I don't think the typical home PC user will have a machine competent
to run Windows/NT for 3-5 years either. Can you imagine running NT
on a 2 or 4MB notebook w/ 80MB HD? I can't.

Linux is a eunuches and the original design philosophies should stay.
Otherwise, you will end up alienating the people who got you this far.
The standard, flush-the-keyboard-buffer-and-ask-'Are you sure' of DOS
is not a common occurence in unix.

I repeat, sanity checks do belong in system programs but I feel
aborting unless there is a force(-f) option flag is the way to
go.

arthur
-- 
"The first fact to face is that UNIX was not developed with security, in any
reliable sense, in mind; this fact alone guarantees a vast number of holes."
    -- "On the Security of UNIX", Dennis M. Ritchie
Arthur Tateishi                 ruhtra@turing.utoronto.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: kfogel@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Karl Fogel)
Subject: Re: Motif for Linux ?
	<1jnnj9INNm1n@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>
	<1993Jan22.151229.26812@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:23:06 GMT
X-Posted-From: occs.cs.oberlin.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1993Jan22.151229.26812@klaava.Helsinki.FI> wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) writes:

>   nan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Nan Zou) writes:
>   >Having the Motif widget set would definitely be a big plus,
>
>   While I too think that the diverse user interfaces of X programs is a
>   bad thing, I don't think Motif has much of a future for Linux until it
>   becomes free distributable in source form.  One of the reasons behind
>   the success of Linux, GNU software, and X (to name a few examples) is
>   that the source is readily and freely available and distributable.
>   Having to rely on other people to get binaries that work with new
>   compilers and libraries is a bad idea.


	Folks, what you want is the Free Widget Foundation. They are
not affiliated with the Free Software Foundation. They are simply a
bunch of volunteers getting together to produce some free, copylefted
widgets that the whole world can use. They are desparately in need of
volunteers for testing, publicity, coordinating, documentation, and of
course, writing widgets. If you are interested, you should contact the
mailing list or its coordinator, Brian Totty. Here are the relevant
addresses: 

Brian Totty:   totty@flute.cs.uiuc.edu 

FWF Mailing List:   free-widgets@kazoo.cs.uiuc.edu


	THIS IS NOT VAPORWARE! There have already been FWF releases of
widgets. You can ftp them, and I feel really embarrassed that I forgot
the name of the site (I don't think it's one of the two up there).
Contact the above people or myself if you are interested in
contributing or using widgets.

-karl fogel


--

 Karl Fogel ("Leg of Lark") <>         My institutions are not 
   kfogel@cs.oberlin.edu    <>    necessarily those of my opinions.
 fogel@antares.mcs.anl.gov  <> 
 <> Linux, the free, copylefted Unix for the 386/486 PC <> Ask me more!! <>
 <> advice and/or opinions: twenty-nine cents each or three for a dollar <>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Ian <I.P.Morris@southampton.ac.uk>
Subject: Nice'd users at login?
Reply-To: I.P.Morris@southampton.ac.uk
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:43:06 GMT

Ok, Dumb question time again i'm afraid.

I would like to have certain users logged in and automatically nice'd. (It's
My processor not theirs so i want use of it!)

I tried to put nice -2 /bin/bash as the shell in /etc/passwd but it didn't seem
to like that idea.

Anybody any ideas?

Cheers

Ian
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jem@sunSITE.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid)
Subject: Re: Help with ps -U from latest SLS
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 08:21:14 GMT

In article <JOHNSONM.93Jan24001511@lars.stolaf.edu> johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K. Johnson) writes:
>The latest ps in SLS does *not* use the -U switch to update the
>psdatabase:  At this point, it doesn't even use the psdatabase.  It
>uses the /proc directory.  To use this, put the following line in your
>/etc/rc.local:
>/etc/mount /proc /proc -t proc
>(or use /bin/mount if your mount command is in /bin)

hi mike, 
you forgot a step. 

mkdir /proc

*then:*

/etc/fstab:
/proc 	/proc	proc 	defaults

I know this sounds rather obvious, but I was extremely confused by this
as I tried to guide someone else's installation of SLS over the phone.

And the obscure errors (276942 or some such) that the mount used by 
SLS spits out does not help much.


"SLS: so easy it can be installed by remote control"
jem.
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