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From: mleech@bnr.ca (Marcus Leech)
Subject: Re: Radio Astronomy?
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Information Techology Division
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:53:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.141312.14518@ke4zv.uucp>, gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes:
|> [...] A 32 foot dish would be about the
|> minimum useful antenna in the UHF range. That's big, with big wind
|> loading, and requiring a big mount. You might try using helix antennas 
|> since they are broader banded than yagis, but you'd still need several 
|> sets to cover the entire UHF range. Log periodic designs might work too, 
|> but neither helix nor LP antennas have as much gain for their size as a 
|> well optimized yagi design. I'd stick to a single narrow band of frequencies
|> to start, and use a 4 or 8 yagi array.
Actually, Gary, a group I'm involved with will be using a pair of 12' TVRO
  dishes at 1420MHZ (still, technically, UHF), giving us a probable sensitivity
  of 2Jy (theoretical is 0.67Jy, but reality is worse than theory).  I'm
  currently using a pair of 25-element loop yagis at 1420MHZ to observe the
  sun.  Excess sun noise over ambient is about 6dB, but I expect to improve
  that with a rebuild of my RF chain, possibly this weekend.

If you only are interested in observing the sun, a modest dish with
  a modern LNA should work just fine above 900MHZ or so.  The suns brightness
  increases significantly above 1GHZ, then tails off again at (if I remember
  correctly) about 5GHZ.

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)
Subject: Re: Speaking of code...
Organization: very little
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1992 20:10:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov06.173249.15149@mixcom.com> kevin.jessup <kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com> writes:
>In <1992Nov6.152147.1847@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> jeffj@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (jeffrey.n.jones) writes:
>
>>If you just want to ragchew go use CB, if you want to do
>>amateur radio learn code. Code is a MAJOR PART OF HAM RADIO.
>
>I don't doubt it.  Kind of keeps the little club nice and elite.
>"We can't do differential equations that explain the transient
>response of analog circuits but we sure do know our dots and
>dashes!  Aren't we special!"
>
>>So once again
>>the perfect world is CB radio. No stupid tests, no stupid code. 
>
>If you read my original post again, you would find that I was in
>favor of MORE testing related to late 20th century technology
>at the expense of good old F.B. Morse!
>

MORE testing?  When I was 12 and studying for my Novice, the
code part was EASY.  What was intimidating was the written
part of the exam.  Learning the code was like learning to
type....a trivial clerical skill.

Why keep out kids just because some people use their skill
with differential equations as an excuse not to learn the
ONLY operating skill required for SOME of the ham exams?



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From: jason@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Jason Hanson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Speaking of code...
Date: 10 Nov 1992 01:27:13 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: studsys.mscs.mu.edu

>>You know, if you spent half the time you've wasted in flamebaiting on actually
>>: trying to learn Morse Code, you'd probably be past the 5 WPM exam.
>>: 
>>: It really isn't that hard.  Really.
>>
>>But 5 WPM morse only gets you the HF priviledges of running morse.
>>
>>Anything useful requires 13 WPM, and that just isn't worth the
>>time.  Useful being defined as the priviledge to run some
>>digital mode besides morse.
>
>	I was under the distinct impression that data can be run on 10 meters
>with the Novice ticket.....

And, I realize that this isn't digital, but Novices (and TechHFs) are allowed
SSB on 10 meters.  Now, I put off getting my ham license because I didn't want
to learn "that damn code."  Finally, last January I bit the bullet and learned
the 5wpm code.  A month later, the no-code license came out.  At first I was
sort of upset because I did all the work and I didn't need to.  Then, I started
to use my HF privileges a little.  In time, not unlike coffee, morse grows on
you.  This last weekend I passed my Advanced class license, and am actually
getting ready for extra.  The higher speeds do require practice, but take it
from me (who used to bitch about code a lot), 5 wpm is slow and easy.  Hell, on
Sunday, while I was taking my Advanced theory test, I copied (in my head) the
testers at 5WPM.  My recommendation for those who want to learn the code is to
use SuperMorse; I have gotten my speed up to about 16-17 WPM (solid) and have
only had a couple CW QSOs in my ham career.
-- 
Jason Hanson         |   915 W. Wisconsin Ave #1010   |     (414) 288-2179
Marquette University |   Milwaukee, WI 53233-2373     |     Ham Radio: N9LEA/AA
--  jason@studsys.mscs.mu.edu       ==+==       n9lea@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na  --
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From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Subject: Re: Famous or well known HAMS
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:30:17 GMT

> I've heard that Marlon Brando is a ham.

The on-line callsign server lists no hams named "Brando".

Mike, N4PDY

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From: kevin.jessup <kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Speaking of code...
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 21:36:16 GMT

This is probably gonna start a flame-war but here goes.

I have an MSEE.  I am not a HAM (yet).  My specialty is software
and Digital Signal Processing (read: I know my analog!).  
Here's the beef...

Why do I have to learn code to become a HAM (below 30 MHz)?
Just what is the fascination with this archaic means of communication?
I understand the "romance" with the old days but give me a break!

It's not that I'm afraid of it, but with all the things to learn out there
relating to RF, packet, digital and the like, why waste time on code!?!?!
Could the time spent studying code not be better utilized in studying the
more technical aspects of modern day communications?

I can imagine an individual with the talent to design a high-speed
digitally encoded communications system from microphone to antenna.
This individual works for a manufacturer of HAM radio equipment.
He does NOT know the CODE.  He CAN pass ANY electronic theory and FCC
regulations test the ARRL or FCC cares to throw at him.  He cannot have 
access to the air till he learns code.  What a crock!

Anyway, I'll soon become a member of the ARRL bureaucracy when I pass the
code test...and never use it again. 

Guess that all sounds kind of inflammatory, eh?  I better relax.  I'll
check out alt.beer! ;-)


-- 
Kevin Jessup, kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com

        "Friends don't let friends run DOS."
                          -- Microware
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From: jeffj@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (jeffrey.n.jones)
Subject: Re: License-Classes in the U.S. ?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:10:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.211345.12275@panix.com> oppedahl@panix.com (Carl Oppedahl) writes:
>In <1992Nov10.182207.7374@chamber.in-berlin.de> root@chamber.in-berlin.de (Patrick Wendt) writes:
>
>>Hi !
>
>>I'd like to know more about the different license-classes
>>in the U.S. - We in Germany only have 3 classes, called
>>C, A and B, where C requires only general knowledge
>>and A and B also CW-operation-knowledge (A=6wpm, B=13wpm).
>
>>I know there are more different classes in the U.S., please
>>could someone explain what you may do and what you mustn't
>>do with the different license-classes ?!
>
>In the US:
>
>Novice, Tech, General, Advanced, Extra.
>
>5 wpm code required:  Novice, General, Advanced, Extra
>13 wpm code required:  General, Advanced, Extra
>20 wpm code required:  Extra
>
>Written test 2 required:  N, T, G, A, E
>Written test 3A required:  T, G, A, E
>Written test 3B required:  G, A, E
>Written test 4A required:  A, E
>Written test 4B required:  E
>
>Permits use of everything above 30 MHz:  T, G, A, E
>Permits most HF (<30 MHz) bands:  G, A, E
>Permits almost all HF bands:  A, E
>Permits all HF bands:  E
>
>Lets you administer exams for N and T tests:  A, E
>Lets you administer exams for G, A, and E tests:  E

You know after reading all this, I'm getting kinda fond of 
Germany's licensing structure. 8-)

73!

Jeff
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 jeffj@seeker.mystic.com   |      then we run the risk of failure.
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From: alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 20:03:47 GMT
Subject: Re: Digital Signal Processing
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, jeffj@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (jeffrey.n.jones) writes:

>I'd like to get a discussion going about DSP and how exactly it
>works. The construction article in the July issue of QST and 
>Rajiv's review and experiences with it has really piqued my interest. 
>Has does program it and is there a way to do it in C language? Never
>could get the hang of assembly language. 

C compilers are available for some of the more advanced DSP chips.  
Of course you throw away some performance compared to using 
assembly language.

AL N1AL

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From: rdewan@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Rajiv Dewan)
Subject: HELP: TOKO 455KHz filters
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:10:34 GMT

I need help in determining the bandwidth (3db) of the following 
TOKO filters:
  CFMW 455 F
  CFMW 455 E
  CFMW 455 D

Thanks for your help.

Rajiv                                 
aa9ch    
Address: r-dewan@nwu.edu
Phone:   None. Only CW.
And occasionally AMTOR.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Subject: Requiring a ham license to buy...was Re: CB
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 15:28:32 GMT


All the talk about requiring the ham license in order to purchase
a ham transmitter, transceiver is a waste of time.  Why, because
just like the licensing of guns, those that want the transmitters
will get them anyway.  Why put more roadblocks in front of
the honest hams and those that want to be hams?  If a license is
to be required for sale to an individual, who enforces the
requirement? (More beaurocracy, more red tape).  If a
license is required, how does that impact the "private" sale of
used equipment (answer, it doesn't)?  

Just my thoughts on the subject and my effort to have us consider
being realistic and not create a monster because of some
bootleg operators out there.

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From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: Requiring a ham license to buy...was Re: CB
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:46:59 GMT

whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl) writes:
>All the talk about requiring the ham license in order to purchase
>a ham transmitter, transceiver is a waste of time.  Why, because
>just like the licensing of guns, those that want the transmitters
>will get them anyway.  Why put more roadblocks in front of
>the honest hams and those that want to be hams?  If a license is
>to be required for sale to an individual, who enforces the
*----
I wouldn't sell an amplifier or transmitter to an individual that
I felt intended to use it illegally.  But I wouldn't be discouraged
by the lack of a license.  Having a transmitter on hand can be a
real incentive to a kid to make sure he GETS his license.
--
	Mike Berger
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
Organization: Electrical & Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 11:28:13 -0500 
From: "Paul J. Dujmich" <paul+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Famous or well known HAMS

Add Arthur Godfrey (don't know callsign...w4 something)
      Television Performer (passed away)

Paul
From: little@nuts2u.enet.dec.com (nuts2u::little)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: DMM Recommendations?
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:11:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: nntpd2.1992Nov5.161129.29277
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Posted-Via: NEWS-NOTES gateway (a hack!)

As a budding experimenter, I'm looking for recommendations for a digital
multi-meter.  The only measuring device I have in my shack at the moment is
an ancient Micronta VOM that works OK as a continuity tester and barely as
a voltmeter.
    
I'd like to try and find something that measures resistance, voltage,
current, inductance, and capacitance.  I don't need ultra high accuracy,
just something to use when playing with circuits and for measuring
unknown/unmarked components.  Price is also a consideration.
    
Any suggestions?
    
73,
Todd
N9MWB
From: little@nuts2u.enet.dec.com (nuts2u::little)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CW is dead! (snicker)
Date: 7 Nov 92 18:53:27 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Posted-Via: NEWS-NOTES gateway (a hack!)

rerickso@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ronald D. Erickson) writes:
>
>There are DX stations who prefer CW because they do not
>cause the pileups and jamming SSB causes.   CW is an
>excellant method to weed out hams too lazy to perfect
>their fist and copying ability.

Screw you.  Nobody is trashing you, so why do you insist on trashing those
people that simply want a rational argument for the higher speed CW
requirement.  These posts of late that imply it's a simple matter to learn
CW or that someone that doesn't copy 100 WPM is lazy are obnoxious at best. 
I'm personally not interested in whether it's easy or whether you're so
damn good at it, or whether I might go down in a plane, or any of the other
BS responses given.  I don't believe you *can* make a rational argument for
the requirement so you need to stoop to baiting and name calling.   Perhaps
the recent elections have worn off on the general populous.  In the absence
of a good argument, simply denigrate the other side or put yourself on a
pedestal.

73,
Todd
N9MWB
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From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Subject: Re: Speaking of code...
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 03:11:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov08.201514.16895@ssc.com> tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook) writes:
>
>Not only that, but at 5 WPM it is practically NO CODE anyway!
>It just amazes me....on here a few years ago there were lively discussions
>about the possibility of a no code license....the proponents SWORE that
>all they wanted was some entry level VHF/UHF only license that their
>brilliant PhD friends could get so that they could perfect high speed
>digital modes.  So now we HAVE a no code license.  And guess what?
>The complaining goes on....declaring the code requirement for some
>license classes as "hazing" or "arbitrary."  Incredible.

First, most "proponents" in this discussion have not proposed a full
"no code" HF license.  They have continued to ask for a valid 
justification for the 13 wpm requirement.  None has yet to be aired
by anyone.

Second, absent any validity on an international basis and/or for 
a valid domestic requirement, then yes...the 13wpm code requirement
is, indeed, comparable to "hazing" or it is simply an "arbitrary"
requirement.

By the way, I had nothing to do with the no-code Tech license and I
certainly never "SWORE" any oath or allegiance to 13wpm for HF.

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From: zawodny@arbd0.larc.nasa.gov (Dr. Joseph M Zawodny)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Discone Antenna
Date: 10 Nov 1992 12:31:24 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA
NNTP-Posting-Host: arbd0.larc.nasa.gov

A very important dimension was left out of the previous posting.  That is the
spacing between the disk and the cone.  This dimension is critical in
determining the antenna impedance.  Unfortunately, I cannot supply this info
readily.

 Joseph M. Zawodny   (KO4LW)                      NASA Langley Research Center
 zawodny@arbd0.larc.nasa.gov                      MS-475,    Hampton VA, 23681
Organization: University of Louisville
Date: Wednesday, 11 Nov 1992 17:23:02 EST
From: Donald S. Teiser <DSTEIS01@ULKYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FTP or LISTSERV site for question pools?

Does anyone know of an anonymous ftp site or BITNET LISTSERV that
contains the Amateur Radio examination question pools for the
Novice (element 2), Technician (element 3A), General (element 3B),
Advanced (element 4A), and Extra (element 4B) exams?

I am sorry if this is a Frequently Asked Question ...

If there is no such site, why not?  Are these not public documents,
originally available in electronically readable form, prior to publication
in paper form by the FCC?  If I wanted to obtain them in machine readable
form so that I might put them on an anonymous ftp site or LISTSERV myself
who might I contact at the FCC?  Are they contactable via email?

Thanks, in advance.

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From: Kirk.Smith@launchpad.unc.edu (Kirk Smith)
Subject: Re: Where have all the good (6) calls gone...
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:48:19 GMT

What calls are being issued in California these days?  I'm an expecting
ham (ie: waiting for the FCC to send me my first license, Tech), and
am curious what I'll end up with.

I'm also a bit confused by the "Tune in the World" and "Now You're Talking"
sections on ham calls.  Are they issuing the 2x3 calls for Techs still?
(ie: N6NZX)  Or just the 3x3 calls (ie: KC6BPH)?  Either way, I figure I'll
end up with a 3x3 call as a California resident, but I'm just curious.

-Kirk J. Smith, Ham Call SOON!  (but not soon enough!)

Oh yeah...I'm also bummed that there's no temporary license that can be
issued upon completion of the test, although I haven't thought of an
easy way to implement such a plan.  Temporary calls could be easily
forged I suppose, since they'd be totally untraceable.
Oh well..

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From: crisp@netcom.com (Richard Crisp)
Subject: Re: Looking for AM/FM/Short Wave + digital tuner and stereo radio
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 06:16:16 GMT

In article <BxL1r2.o2@access.digex.com> hacker@access.digex.com (Dark Hacker) writes:
>I'm looking for a stereo AM/FM/Short Wave radio for the office.  Prefer
>a digital tuner and stereo headphone jack.  Any outstanding models out
>there?  The Sony shortwave (little pocket thing) is not stereo.  Neither
>the Sony nor the competing Grundig product have digital tuning.

Let's be a bit more specific: The Sony SW1S does FM stereo provided you
use the headphone jack (makes sense to me as they only have one
speaker installed in the unit). The SW20 is not stereo. THe SW1S
also features a PLL synthesized tuning system unlike the SW20, but
it tunes in 5KHz steps which is OK since it doesn't have an SSB
demodulator. If it did, it would be inadequate to tune in 5KHz steps
in my opinion. It is really too bad that Sony didn't give the SW1S
SSB capability: here is a top dollar mini portable, but no
SSB! Every time I go to Tokyo I have to lug my 2010 if I want to
monitor SSB or RTTY. The 2010 is really nice, but it is a bit
bulky and heavy to pack around on an international trip!

Come on Sony, you guys can do better!



-- 
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(415) 903-3832 wk  "no more incumbents in the congress"   (408) 253 4541 fax

"one useless man is a disgrace, two are a law firm, and three?
The beginning of a Congress" -anonymous from the Internet.
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From: rdewan@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Rajiv Dewan)
Subject: HELP: Plse Identify FILTER
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:11:07 GMT

First, I thank all who replied to my earlier request for help.  I am
trying to use a Kenwood TM431 on 9600 baud and I suspect that my 
455Kc filter is too narrow.  It is identified as:

              W455F
              Cm  A

The Cm looks like:

           ccccc
         c 
       c   mm   mm
       c   m  m  m 
       c   m     m
        c 
          ccccc

Could you please help me identify the company that makes these filters
and where  I might find one that is wider.  My guess is that it will be
W455D or W455C.  (If the naming convention is similar to that of TOKO
and Murata.)

Thanks 

Rajiv       
aa9ch    
Address: r-dewan@nwu.edu
Phone:   None. Only CW.
And occasionally AMTOR.
From: dennism@espresso.boeing.com (Dennis McClure 865-4806)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Famous or well known HAMS
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:24:37 GMT
Reply-To: dennism@espresso.boeing.com
Organization: Boeing Computer Services

In article AA21008@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu, PLAWS@UAFSYSB.UARK.EDU () writes:
>The King is JY1.  Rajiv Gahndi was a ham too...
     ^^^^
       |
        ---- Elvis was a ham?
>
>Peter Laws              |"The '90s are gonna make the '60s|   pcl@engr.uark.edu
>n5uwy@ka5bml.ar.usa.noam| look like the '50s"--D. Hopper  |plaws@uafsysb.bitnet



Dennis P. McClure                Boeing Computer Services
(206)957-5890                    Commercial Airplane Support
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