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Subject:      Handicap Digest # 3083

                             THE HANDICAP DIGEST

                                 Issue # 3083

                         Wednesday, January 06, 1993

Today's Topics:


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                                  Greetings
                                   Hello!
                                Re: COCHLEAR
                                  Re: life
                             Re: SIGN REFERENCES
                                 Re: Actors
                                  COCHLEAR
                                  Greetings
                                 French TDD
                                  COCHLEAR
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Subject: Greetings
From: Brian.Showalter@f200.n157.z1.fidonet.org (Brian Showalter)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:157/200 - PC-OHIO PCBoard, Cleveland OH


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Hello everyone, I'm another "newbie" and thought I'd say hi and
introduce myself.  I've been totally deaf since the age of four, when
I lost my hearing as a result of spinal meningitis.  I attended
Virginia School for the Deaf and Blind for four years, then was
mainstreamed because the VSDB curriculum did not meet my parents'
expectations.  I graduated from high school in 1982, received an
Associate in Applied Science degree in Computer Processing in 1984,
and have been working as a programmer/operator for a retirement
community for the past eight years.

In 1985, I received a single channel cochlear implant, which I now
feel was not worth the trouble.  In fact, I hardly ever use it any
more.  I have considered surgery to install the newer multiple channel
implant, but at this point I think that I will wait a bit longer and
let the technology advance further.

I'm happy to see such a thriving SilentTalk conference!  About a year
ago, I was involved as a network sysop in the Intelec network, and
helped to get their Deaf/Hard of Hearing conference started.  After a
period of relatively few messages, more and more people have started
posting and traffic is starting to pick up there.  :)

Happy holidays, everybody!
 * DeLuxe* 1.25 #821s * BIT: n. unit by which programmers go insane

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Subject: Hello!
From: Russell.Goddard@f650.n107.z1.fidonet.org (Russell Goddard)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:107/650 - Storm Cloud BBS, Old Bridge NJ


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Just today the net began to pickup this echo, and boy am I
thrilled!  Finally! Now there's an echo that's devoted to people
who are just like me.

I just wanted to say hello to the people who are living in the
silent world, and those who are curious about the silent world.
Look at my tagline below for a special message!

Yours,
Russell "Silent Thunder" Goddard, Jr.

PS - For those who are wondering why I have the handle "Silent
Thunder" between my first and last names, it's a very symbolic
handle.  The "Silent" represents the world I live in, a silent
world.  The lightning that comes after the "Thunder" is a Native
Indian symbol (I'm part Oklahoman (I think my great-grandfather
comes from that state) Cherokee) for strength.  Put it together and
you get "Strong, deaf person".

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Subject: Re: COCHLEAR
From: John.Cunniff@p0.f368.n101.z1.fidonet.org (John Cunniff)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:101/368.0 - The Dream's Theatre, Dorchester MA


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 -=> Quoting Laurel Gealt to Dario Broggini <=-

 LG> Hi!  I am a cochlear implant recipient -- and I would be happy to
 LG> answer any questions you may have about it.
 LG> -!- TMail v1.31
 LG>  ! Origin: U.S. Telematics, Yardley PA (215)493-5242 (1:273/201)

Hello!!! This is Jaimi Lard typing this message as John Cunniff is my
boyfriend. I used to wear hearing aid but unfortunately, it did not
really help me very good because, I was very deaf when I was born.

The honest thing, I feel very natural and DEAF does not really bother me
very much as I am happyly to use my signlanguage :) John Cunniff is also
deaf too. He used to wear hearing aid.

Hello, John! I am asking you question how do you feel to be DEAF? dO YOU
FEEL  natural and happy nothing annoys you? I let John type now :)

Hello, this is John Cunniff typing here.... Ok, let me answer Jaimi
Lard's question as she replied on this message remotely. Anyway, I feel
veryt nature to be deaf. I yes wore my hearing aid before. It sort of
help me with basic sounds like car honking, and bell ringing. Some of
the sounds can't be heard like HIGH-PITCHED sounds ugh!! Like Telephone
rings. :( And I do not think I want an implant on ears is necessary for
me as it is not too helpful for me and expensive!!!

Jaimi, that's all for my message to reply. :)

Good :) Let's save it from you and me :)

                                                      John & Jaimi

... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."

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Subject: Re: life
From: John.Cunniff@p0.f368.n101.z1.fidonet.org (John Cunniff)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:101/368.0 - The Dream's Theatre, Dorchester MA


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Hello, ladies!

I would like to reply this message to you to introduce my girlfriend
named Jaimi Lard to be interested in joining FidoNet's Silent Talk
Echo!!! :) Jaimi want to know about Perkins School for the Blind. Jaimi
and I grew yup from Perkins School for the Blind located in Watertown,
MA. :) Have you ever heard of Perkins School for the Blind before? The
school is famous!! And we are involved in deaf-Blind community! :)

Jaimi, OOOPS, flash light on. Can youi wait for me, I have to go and eat
my supper now?

Enjoy your supper :) How can I type save mail after writing this and go
to next message?

Use ALT-X then hit Return. :)

Thankyou very much See you soon :)

Thanks and see you soon!!!

Hello, this is Jaimi Lard writing on this message as John Cunniff had to
eat his supper.

I have my own computer with large print called LP-DOS as IBM. I love to
do computer active to socialize with people as network and lot of
informations. I have good friend name is Anindya Bhattacharraya who, is
Deaf-blind who use versabraille on the computer. He is from Perkins and
go to Gardener Webb University of North Carolina this year. Maybe you
would know him :)

AADB The American Association for the Deaf-Blind as, I  goes every year
to go to the confrence. Last year I went to Minn for AADB. I heard this
year, AADB will be held in LA Angela of California :)

MERY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR :) HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU :)

                                  Jaimi & John

... Catch the Blue Wave!

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Subject: Re: SIGN REFERENCES
From: John.Cunniff@p0.f368.n101.z1.fidonet.org (John Cunniff)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:101/368.0 - The Dream's Theatre, Dorchester MA


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Hello!! This is Jaimi Lard typing as John is my boyfriend.

Guess what? I am using TDD with large print display. I get it from the
Mass Commission for the blind in Boston and soon I am ordering FREE TDD
with large display and answering machine and automally dialing inside
the TDD machine from the New England Telephone Company only for Mass for
Free TDD's

If you are interested to ask questions about it call MCB and Deaf-Blind
Contact center at
MCB 1 (617) 727-5550
DBCC 1 (617) 482-2249

GOOD LUCK!!!!
                           JAIMI & JOHN

... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

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Subject: Re: Actors
From: Carol.Katz@f47.n161.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Katz)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:161/47 - Serenity in Sonoma, Santa Rosa CA


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

KK>  -=> Quoting Carol Katz to Karen Keil <=-

KK>  CK> You missed one Karen, that if you yell loud enough the deaf
KK>  CK> person will hear you, I ran into this at school.

KK> You are right....these were not the only two---just the two right
KK> off the top of my head.

KK> That's another one I encountered, too, along with a misconception
KK> that hearing aids made one perfectly normal in hearing and could
KK> understand people talking behind his/her back.  Still another one
KK> was held by a neighbor boy who seemed convinced that he had to
KK> yell right into my body hearing aid to talk to me, regardless of
KK> my repeated explanations that it wasn't necessary!  Ooooh!

        ROTFL, I saw it at school one day, one of my friends wears two
        hearing aids, and lip reads extremely well, well with both she
        can usually carry on a conversation, but one day in the
        cafetaria one of the women behind the counter decided that my
*        friend could hear as well as anyone else, so she was talking to
        her with her head down, well my friend could not hear that well
        and couldn't even see her lips, this women behind the counter
        became real mad and started yelling at my friend, well I went
        running up and asked what the problem was, this women said that
        my friend was just a so and so because she wouldn't respond, I
        informed the women that my friend couldn't hear her, she made
        some comments that I took directly to the manager of the
        cafateria and filed a complaint, these are the things that make
        me very made, our instructor came over and asked if there was
        something that she could do, when I told her what was going on I
        thought she'd hit the roof, BTW the instructor is profoundly
        deaf.  These are the attitudes that I find very demeaning.

KK> ... We now return to our regularly scheduled flame-throwing.

        This I want to stay tuned for!

 * OLX 2.1 TD * Nine out of ten men who try camels prefer women.

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Subject: COCHLEAR
From: Laurel.Gealt@f201.n273.z1.fidonet.org (Laurel Gealt)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:273/201 - US Telematics, Yardley PA


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

I myself am not familiar with the problems and experiences of child
implantees.  However, I have two suggestions for you.

One) Join CICI (Cochlear Implant Club International).  It is a
support group for implantees and for parents of child implantees.
CICI publishes a jjjournal four times a year.  Some articles in the
journal might bbe helpful to you.  Also  there is a convention
every other year.  For a family membbership, send $25 to CICI, P.O.
Box 464, Buffalo, NY 14223-0464.  With your membership application,
you might want to include a note to Craig Carpenter, asking him to
put you in touch with other parents of child implantees.

Two) You might be interested in reading a book by the father of a
child implantee.  The book is "Our Spark of Hope", by Kevin
Peterson.  It can be ordered from Carlson's Publishing, 114 S. Main
St., Suite B, P.O. Box 364, Lindsborg, KS 67456.  Phone (913)
227-3360.  Price: Soft cover $9.00.  Hard Cover $18.00.  Shipping
and handling $2.50.

I hope this is of some help to you.

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Subject: Greetings
From: John.Moeller@p0.f4.n3613.z1.fidonet.org (John Moeller)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3613/4.0 - PC MUNCHLAND, Columbus Ga


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 BS> Hello everyone, I'm another "newbie" and thought I'd say hi and
 BS> introduce myself.  I've been totally deaf since the age of four, when
 BS> I lost my hearing as a result of spinal meningitis.  I attended
 BS> Virginia School for the Deaf and Blind for four years, then was
 BS> mainstreamed because the VSDB curriculum did not meet my parents'
 BS> expectations.  I graduated from high school in 1982, received an
 BS> Associate in Applied Science degree in Computer Processing in 1984,
 BS> and have been working as a programmer/operator for a retirement
 BS> community for the past eight years.

Wow, sounds like fun.  I to am a new user here.  I have only been deaf
for about 2 years though.  I lost my hearing(among other things) to two
brain tumors.  I have been into computers for over 10 years but have
only starting working professionally as a programmer in the past 6
months.  Im working for Total Systems now.  Oh well, dont suppose you
would know where or what that is anyway.

 BS> In 1985, I received a single channel cochlear implant, which I now
 BS> feel was not worth the trouble.  In fact, I hardly ever use it any
 BS> more.  I have considered surgery to install the newer multiple channel
 BS> implant, but at this point I think that I will wait a bit longer and
 BS> let the technology advance further.

I have been wondering about these things.  Exactly what will a multiple
channel implant do.  If I guess right, it will allow me to hear a few
sounds on different frequencies(as opposed to only one frequency in the
single channel ones, yes?).  I too am waiting to see where technology
will go.  I dont think I will see any breakthroughs in my life time
though.  Im certainly not waiting for any anyways.  Im presently
attending sign language classes at one of the local technical schools.
Im not much good at it yet but that will change.  Fortunately my speach
is still quite good and they say it will stay that way as long as I
continue to use it.  I plan to maintain certain ties with the hearing
world as well as making new ones with my new "family".  Glad to meet
you.  Talk to you later(ttyl)...

Oh, and Merry Christmas.

... Even a small star shines in the darkness.

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Subject: French TDD
From: Steven.Henry@f2120.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Steven Henry)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/2120 - Fingers Talk, Irving TX


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Dec. 24, 1992

Dear Users:

I received the French TDD brouchure from the  Federation Suisse Des
Sourds. I  have their TDD number.  They have a french word for TDD
is  "telescrit".  I  was curious to call their number by my
Intele-Type TDD, because  my  TDD has  an  international  TDD code
switcher.  Unfortunately,  my  TDD  didn't understand their
machine.  I was anxious, because I can't really know  what kind of
a communication it is.  I decided to get my portable tape  recorder
and  attached to the phone before dialing.  When it was completed,
I  just reviewed  it and tuned it loud so that I can hear.  I found
out that it  is the  same language that our U.S.A. TDDs speak, but
it is 50 baud.  Ours  is 45.45 baud.

I tried with few Ultratec TDDs, but it is no luck.  I assume that
our  TDDs with  the international TDD code switcher are not able to
understand  them.  It  supposed to work.  I couldn't understand why
our Ultratec  TDD  company does  not  program it right.  I tried to
reverse it, but  it  didn't  work.  Never try with the Krown TDDs
yet.

If  you have a Krown or other kind of TDDs with the international
TDD  code switcher, would you be a volunteer to try that?  The
Federation Suisse  Des Sourds' phone number is 011-41-21-25-65-57.

I believe that the "telescrit" is involved with Germany and Italy,
because Switzerland has three countries in one that are Germany,
France, and Italy. Wish you a good luck!

Merry X-mas and Happy New Year of 1993.

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Subject: COCHLEAR
From: Mike.Cooper@f801.n387.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Cooper)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:387/801 - ETC Mednet, San Antonio TX


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Patrick:  The cocnlear implant works the following, after an
operation where a device that is a receiver is implanted in the
head and a wire with 22 electrodes is inserted into the cochlea.
the sound is first picked up by a small microphone which is hung on
the ear much like a hearing aid.  The sound is then sent by a wire
to a small speech processor that breaks down the sounds and codes
them much like a CD player.  The sound that has been coded is sent
back up a wire to a external transmitter coil that is attached to
the head with a magnet.  This coil emits a radio signal which is
picked up through the skin by the implanted receiver.  The receiver
stimulator sends the appropriate electrical signals to the
electrodes in the cochlea.  The electrodes then stimulate the nerve
tissue there.  The hearing nerve carries the resulting nerve
impulses to the brain which interprets them as sounds.  The entire
process happens almost instantaneously, just like it does for a
normal hearing person.  Please forgive the spelling, I am going to
have to find out how to edit this before I let it fly.  If you
need info you can write to
The Cochlear Corporation,
61 Inverness Dr, Suite 200,
Englewood, CO 80112
(303)790-9010 (V/TDD)

A little info on my little girl, she is 8 and was born profoundly
deaf.  She started an Oral School at the age of 5-mos and has been
in school since.  She had the operation the first of the year and
was conneected 2 months after the operation.  She is doing very
well and can pick up sound as cars, trucks etc.  She is forever
asking what was that and we are having to explain what each sound
she hears is.  I think it has helped her lip reading 100% as she
now has some sound to go with the lip movement.  I really can only
say good things about the Cochlear Implant.  My little girl puts
everything on each day without us even saying anything.  She
already has learned that it helps her.  If I can answer any
questions please ask.

                            Mike Cooper, San Antonio, TX

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Subject: Y
From: Ann.Sab@hnews.fidonet.org (Ann Sab)
Organization: The Handicap News, Shelton CT (203) 337-1607


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

the cochlear implant, althoughit has wonderful aspec6s, is of no use
when you have nervedeafness like i do. you must go through tough
physical,  psychological, audioliogical,  exams first. besides its an
operation--some cant hanqe it. i couldnt. i cant wlk  or her oee--my
condition is froneuropatiehia. neuropathia is an abnormal condition of
the nerves anhearing aids wont help. so i must use the computer.

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