From: gt6737b@prism.gatech.EDU (E.A. JAAFAR)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Anwar Ibrahim's Qualifications
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:36:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: hydra.74606
Organization: Ramblin Wreck from Georgia Tech

In article <1992Nov12.071138.27287@nuscc.nus.sg>, engp2120@nusunix2.nus.sg (YONG KUEN FATT ALAN) writes:

> Actually what Othman says is true, only in Malaysia :)
> Considering that most places in local universities are reserved
> for Malays, only the very best non-Malays can get in. Also,
> those Malays that have reasonable results are sent overseas, ie
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> maybe those that have grade 2 or better. Hence you can extrapolate
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> the standard of those Malays in local universities. In that kind
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> -----                     Lets get dangerous                     ---DW

	I know that maybe you have little respect for malays.
	Probably from  your point of view, all malays should have
	been a bunch of failures no matter where they go.
	Probably from your views that those malays who make it
	big time on foreign soil probably as stupid as the rest
	of the bunch at home.

	Maybe their achievements on foreign soil also due to politics.
	Maybe from your view, the professors at those foreign colleges
	have preferrential treatment going on for the malays.

	Maybe from your views, those malays that got 10A1s in spm
	and those that got at least under 10 agg. in spm are really
	really dumb actually.

	I dont know where you have gotten those info. but I have
	never seen any friend of mine(malay) who has got a scholarship
	to study abroad with a grade 2 spm result.  But then again,
	maybe I'm too blind to see reality.

	I would understand if you feel dissappointed for not getting
	govnt assistance in persuing tertiary education.  I myself
	feel sorry for you and I myself realized how the system has
	been providing too much assistance to the wrong kind of
	malays-the rich ones.  I have known  some rich malay kids got
	assistance to study at expensive private American colleges
	while there are alot more qualified but with less contact
	at higher governmental level,  didnt get the opportunity
	to be sent overseas directly after spm.  I also have seen
	friends of mine, non-malays, from middle income family that
	have to take up loans to put their kids to college, while
	those rich malays dont even think of taking up loans to
	send their kids abroad e/though they have the means to do so.
	But they instead, use the fact that they are malays and use
	their influence to get a free ride.  That's the problem the
	way I see it.

	That's why I absolutely agree with Mr. Jack Teh.  Assistance
	should be given to those who deserved it.  

	Eventhough you might be mad at the situation, you shouldnt
	have blinded  yourself with such inaccurate generalization that
	all malays that was given assistance to study abroad are less
	qualified.  Maybe interms of mentality some are immature, racist
	and what have you but academically speaking I think those that
	were sent directly abroad are pretty excellent and capable of
	performing as well as you perhaps even better.
	Yes, maybe they are from rich famalies but they arent by all means
	dumb.  Yes, some do got into the program thru back doors, but
	still they arent dumb-at least the ones that I know of.
	The problem is not the qualification(from my view) but rather
	the selection process in giving out governmetn assistance. 
	What we need to realize is that it is a bad practice.

	The problem with the system as far as education is concern, the
	ambiguity in the definition of the word malay itself.  I think
	the definition of the intention of NEP should accurately point
	out what kind of malay that needs assistance.

	many malays nowadays still believe that they should get those
	special treatments no matter how succesful they have become.
	The way I see it, the assistance is given so that a malay of
	a poor family backgound can get a start and when they have
	become successful, they ought to be able to provide for their
	kids themselves.  Meaning, those rich malay families should
	take up loans like other non-malay people and let their spots
	be filled with a more deserving malay.  That way the rich
	malay will be helping the poor malay.  But as what we all see
	now that's not the case.  Rich malays getting more egoistic
	and powerful than ever.

	So sir, there is a bigger picture instead of just a matter of
	the malays are discriminating the non-malays.  I believe that
	the malays are discriminating amongst themselves as well.
	the rich needs the poor to say that NEP is still needed to
	help those malays in poverty but they way I see it, that's 
	always going to be the case since they are cheating on 
	themselves.  Selfish.

	Power is what matters right?....

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	disclaimer:  what i said is that of my views, formulated thru
	my experience.  Be aware that what I've experience probably
	just another unfortunate incidents, the growing pains in my life.
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