HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: j.jahn@abbs.hanse.de (Jost Jahn)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Sunspots at 08.10.1992.
Reply-To: j.jahn@abbs.hanse.de
Date: 08 Oct 92 19:21:00 MET
Distribution: sci
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Sunspots at 08.10.1992., 0 h UT.

No.    Pos.  Cl.  Ar.  Mag. SF  F  M  X
---------------------------------------
7295 13N 80W Hsx   20   a
7298 17N 43W Axx    0   a    1
7300 12N 06W Cso   40   b
7301 16S 30W Dao   60   b    3
7303 13S 22W Dai  280   gd   6
7305 11N 02E Dai  130   b    2
7306 08S 23E Dai  170   bg   6     4


Optical and x-ray flares in 07.10.92.

Date     Beg. Max. End   Posit. Xray Opt
----------------------------------------
07.10.92 0501 0507 0517 06S 33E M3.1 1B
07.10.92 0751 0759 0807 07S 32E M1.0 1N
07.10.92 1006 1012 1021 07S 30E M1.3 1B
07.10.92 1456 1504 1507 07S 26E M1.1 1N


 
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From: ttp@kestrel.edu (Tom Pressburger)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: Dim Naglers
Summary: 2 cents worth
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:13:49 GMT
Organization: Kestrel Institute, Palo Alto, CA

I have a 4 1/4" Astroscan.  I noticed that with a 9mm Plossl (Televue) I can
see the hole in the ring nebula, but I never convinced myself I could with a
9mm Nagler (Televue, too!).

-tom
From: cs91mjw@brunel.ac.uk (Martin Watson)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Test
Date: 12 Oct 92 11:19:54 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
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This is a Test!
Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.space
From: sl25@cus.cam.ac.uk (Steve Linton)
Subject: Re: Too thin for light pressure? (was Re: Diesen sphere or Strungen Sphere)
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:33:32 GMT

In article <Bw4B96.C7H@zoo.toronto.edu>, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct14.013809.1@fnalc.fnal.gov> higgins@fnalc.fnal.gov (Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey) writes:
|> >I doubt whether 3 microns is enough to be reasonably opaque, let alone
|> >a nearly perfect reflector (which you want when building a solar
|> >sail.) 

I don't think you want a reflective Dyson sphere, for reasons discussed much
further back in the NewsGroup (you cook the inner planets). For a loss of 50% of
your lift you can make do with a black one which also enables you to convert all
the solar energy into something useful (Dyson's original reason for proposing the
sphere).
From: keith@swdc.stratus.com (Keith Wandry)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Need Ephimeris For Comet Swift/Tuttle
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:15:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc., San Jose, CA

Sorry if this has already been posted but our new feed has been out
for the last gew weeks. Could someone please send me the ephimeris
for comet Swift/Tuttle? It would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Keith
Newsgroups: sci.astro
From: martin@space.ualberta.ca (Martin Connors)
Subject: Re: What makes Fireballs green
Reply-To: martin@space.ualberta.ca (Martin Connors)
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:25:46 GMT

In article <13249@ntdd-1> meier@Software.Mitel.COM (Rolf Meier) writes:
> Meteor spectra contain emission lines from the materials in them.
> Without specific spectral information, it is not certain that the green
> originates from oxygen or meteoritic material.
My own experience of a bright green fireball was that it was travelling  
more or less South-North and was rather slow. I think it was not a  
fireball but a piece of (likely Former Soviet) metallic space junk.
Could this apply to the recent bright fireball?

Rolf, you used to do LOTs of meteor observing. Am I right in claiming that  
bright greenies are rather rare? Consider during a major shower when we  
know we are dealing with extraterrestrial materials and not parts of  
satellites falling.
--
Martin Connors         |
Space Research         | martin@space.ualberta.ca  (403) 492-2526
University of Alberta  |
Newsgroups: sci.astro
From: clarke@acme.ucf.edu (Thomas Clarke)
Subject: Re: Naglers
Organization: University of Central Florida
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:59:43 GMT

In article <50588@sunquest.UUCP> terry@venus.sunquest.com (Terry R.  
Friedrichsen) writes:
> I've noticed a particular optical distortion and wonder if other users
> of Naglers have seen this. 
>
> Without moving the telescope, I move my head side-to-side.  Rather than a
> flat, undistorted field of view, I see tiny waves and ripples, like looking
> through an optically-distorted window (though the effect is *much* smaller
> in scale).  This occurs throughout the field, not just near the edges.
> 
> If you've got some idea of what I'm talking about, have you ever seen this?
> I only see it with the Naglers and one University Optics wide-field, long
> focal length eyepiece.  I do *not* see this effect with a number of other
> eyepieces.  I do not see this effect with any of the eyepieces I have at
> home for my 12 1/2" Newtonian.

I think you must be seeing spherical aberration of the pupil.
In eyepieces, especially wide field ones, the pupil which is the
image of the objective/mirror will fall in different locations 
depending on the field angle.  This works just like spherical
aberration:  near the axis the pupil is relatively far back, 
whereas at the field edge it is closer to the eyelens.  The effect
would be larger in a longer focal length, wide field eyepiece.

The result is that there is no single position where all the light 
from the mirror/objective can pass through the pupil in your eye.
If looking near the axis your eye must be further back, but to see
near the field edge, you need to push your eye forward.  The net
result is that if you are in the read position for center of the field,
and turn to look at the field edge, you will not get all the light.
You may catch light from the edge of the objective/mirror, but it
would certainly look funny.  

I think this would account for your observations.  You might 
try placing your eye a little closer in than where you naturally
want to be.  Theory says that the minimum "blur circle" for the
aberrated pupil will be closer to the eyepiece.
--
Thomas Clarke
Institute for Simulation and Training, University of Central FL
12424 Research Parkway, Suite 300, Orlando, FL 32826
(407)658-5030, FAX: (407)658-5059, clarke@acme.ucf.edu
Newsgroups: sci.astro
From: hillig@U.Chem.LSA.UMich.EDU (Kurt Hillig)
Subject: Re: rumor concerning Saturn's rings
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 11:11:21 EDT
Organization: Department of Chemistry, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Distribution: na

I remember when I was much younger getting very excited one night
when I thought I'd found a naked-eye comet - a bright object with
an obvious tail to one side.  I got the binocs and discovered
that it was Jupiter with its moons all lined up on one side.  Still
was interesting, but I sure was disappointed that it wasn't a comet.

Someone posted something here a few months ago which I vaguely remember
discussed observations by paleoastronomers (Inca/Maya/Aztec?  Babylonia?)
showing rings on Saturn, moons of Jupiter, possibly splitting some
close double stars - anyone remember this and keep a copy?

-- 
Kurt Hillig
Dept. of Chemistry                     khillig@umich.edu
University of Michigan         hillig@chem.lsa.umich.edu
Ann Arbor, MI  48109-1055
From: asnd@msr.triumf.ca (Donald Arseneau)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: rumor concerning Saturn's rings
Date: 14 Oct 1992 18:18 -0700
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: msr.triumf.ca
Keywords: Jupiter's moons naked eye
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1992Oct14.155756.2326@Princeton.EDU>, woodhams@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Michael Woodhams) writes...

>(others report being able to or knowing people who can
>resolve the Galilean moons.)
> 
>So given that this is possible, are there any records from antiquity
>of observing the moons of Jupiter? 

"After many years of inconclusive debate on this
subject, it appears that at least some of these
sightings are accurate.  According to Xi Ze-Zong
of the Chinese Academy of Science, Gan De -- one
of China's earliest astronomers -- left records of
observations of one of Jupiter's moons in 364 B.C.
Gan De wrote: `Jupiter was very large and bright;
apparently, there was a small reddish star 
appended to its side.'  Xi Ze-Zong says that this 
passage almost certainly means that Gan De saw a 
Jovian satellite.

"To test the validity of Gan De's statement, an 
experiment was conducted in a Chinese planetarium, 
which revealed that people with good eyesight can 
see a satellite the same apparent brightness that 
Ganymede and Callisto are when at their farthest 
orbital positions from Jupiter. The tests also 
showed that it would even be easier to see a 
blended image of the two.  This new evidence 
suggests that Galileo's discovery of Jupiter's 
moons in 1610 was preempted by almost 2000 years."

(Terrance Dickenson, NightWatch)

Donald Arseneau        asnd@reg.triumf.ca
From: heard@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: The color violet?
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:00:40 EST
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

In article <12990039@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM>, paulz@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM 
(Paul Zander) writes:
> First thanks to all of the detailed information from the various
> posters.  Now a question.  
> 
> Even before this thread, I was wondering about "Indigo".  One posting
> included:
> 
>   |> And what is the color "indigo"?
> 
>   Not really a color--included just to make Roy G. Biv work.  (At least
>   I've never seen it in a rainbow, and I have looked for it.  [ Roy G. Biv
>   is a mnemonic for the colors in the rainbow--Red, Orange, Yellow, Green,
>   Blue, Indigo, Violet ].
> 
> These are the official colors taught in schools in the US. Is it different 
> elsewhere?  Was indigo possibly a favorite color with Mr. Biv?

I remember reading that Isaac Newton himself described 
the spectrum as having the 7 colours: red, orange, yellow, green, 
blue, indigo, violet. My source (I totally forget what 
it was) commented that since Newton included 7 colours 
perhaps even he was not immune to mysticism. I have 
always imagined another possibility, that the 
blue-violet part of the spectrum is dispersed more than 
the red-yellow part, so that Newton labelled more 
colours at that end.

Take care
Ronno
Newsgroups: sci.astro
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: STRUCTURE OF TIME
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 06:09:36 GMT

s914311@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Kasra) writes:
: 
: 	Time is not anything.  It is mearly a method for people of lesser minds
: (and before you start flaiming me, I am sure almost the whole of the population
: of earth, including myself, is of a lesser mind) to comprehend how things
: occur.  
: 	Time is a concept.  You cannot bring physics into the question of
: time.  My understanding of physics is that a concept is not part of it.  How
: can time conform to a law??  It cant.  I have not heard anything anywhere
: (here or in books) that can convince me that time is something.
: 
: Just my 2 bobs worth.

If time is not "something", then how come so many people waste so much
of it?

Bill
Newsgroups: sci.astro
From: fil@me.utoronto.ca (Filippo A. Salustri)
Subject: Re: UFO EVIDENCE VS. Carl Sagan
Organisation: U of Toronto, Dept. of Mechanical Engineering
Organization: UofT Mechanical Engineering
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:31:06 GMT

kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn) writes:

>In article <1992Oct15.012632.12058@odin.corp.sgi.com> wsj@mti.sgi.com writes:
>>In article <1992Oct13.175901.1730@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>><a bunch of crap>
>>|>                                    Robert E. McElwaine
>>|>                                    B.S., Physics and Astronomy, UW-EC
>>
>>Talk about bad advertising for a university...

>Out of idle curiosity, has anyone ever determined the veracity of the 
>dweeb's claim to *any* degree?

>A mail order house, I could believe...


>kbq
>--
>Kevin Quinn                         | kevinq@ingres.com
>                                    | {mtzinu,pacbell,ll-winken,sun}!ingres.com
>My opinions are my own.  Should you think otherwise, think again.

	There is some circumstantial evidence that indicates there was
something that happened and that was `covered up' in some fashion.  If the
case is the same one I'm thinking of, a Canadian TV documentary investigated
it.  I can't recall all the details, but most of the evidence centers around
1st and 2nd hand accounts.  2 examples I can think of:

	1) A law enforcement officer (or something along those lines) was
told by a friend on the army base that a `flying saucer' had been found at
the crash site.  A couple of days later, the army announced that it had been
a weather balloon.

	2) A local mortician was asked if they had 4' and 3' 6" hermetically
sealed caskets around.  Said mortician later met a nurse on the army base
who was near hysteria for what she'd seen in the o/r: a small, dark-skinned,
big-headed, 4-fingered, smelly creature with no earlobes, no nose bridge and
big eyes.  Shortly thereafter, the nurse quit the base and sent a note to
the mortician, saying she was moving to England to "get away" (or some such
thing).  The mortician immediately wrote her a reply, which was returned a
little later marked "Deceased.  Return to Sender."

	Although this doesn't prove jack, I would suggest that further
investigation is not unreasonable.

	Hopefully, this helps.

Regards.
Fil Salustri.
-- 
Fil Salustri	fil@me.utoronto.ca		UUCP: ...!utai!me!fil
                                     A is A
From: paulz@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Paul Zander)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:07:56 GMT
Subject: Re: The color violet?
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: sci.astro

First thanks to all of the detailed information from the various
posters.  Now a question.  

Even before this thread, I was wondering about "Indigo".  One posting
included:

  |> And what is the color "indigo"?

  Not really a color--included just to make Roy G. Biv work.  (At least
  I've never seen it in a rainbow, and I have looked for it.  [ Roy G. Biv
  is a mnemonic for the colors in the rainbow--Red, Orange, Yellow, Green,
  Blue, Indigo, Violet ].

These are the official colors taught in schools in the US. Is it different 
elsewhere?  Was indigo possibly a favorite color with Mr. Biv?

Paul Zander 
AA6PZ @ N6IIU-1.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA
Newsgroups: sci.astro,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave
From: oler@rho.uleth.ca (Cary Oler)
Subject: Daily Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for 12 October
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: 13 Oct 92 05:18:33 GMT

!!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 286, 10/12/92
10.7 FLUX=107.0  90-AVG=119        SSN=060      BKI=2446 6422  BAI=032
BGND-XRAY=B3.7     FLU1=5.4E+05  FLU10=9.7E+03  PKI=2356 7322  PAI=040
  BOU-DEV=012,063,051,170,166,042,012,014   DEV-AVG=066 NT     SWF=00:000
 XRAY-MAX= C2.5   @ 2153UT    XRAY-MIN= B2.9   @ 0109UT   XRAY-AVG= B4.9
NEUTN-MAX= +002%  @ 2000UT   NEUTN-MIN= -004%  @ 0025UT  NEUTN-AVG= -0.4%
  PCA-MAX= -2.9DB @ 0515UT     PCA-MIN= -3.6DB @ 1835UT    PCA-AVG= -3.1DB
BOUTF-MAX=55430NT @ 0413UT   BOUTF-MIN=55376NT @ 1729UT  BOUTF-AVG=55409NT
GOES7-MAX=E:+119NT@ 1029UT   GOES7-MIN=N:-046NT@ 1045UT  G7-AVG=+062,+049,+005
GOES6-MAX=N:+119NT@ 1019UT   GOES6-MIN=E:-024NT@ 0754UT  G6-AVG=+072,-010,+027
 FLUXFCST=STD:104,103,100;SESC:100,100,100 BAI/PAI-FCST=010,010,020/015,015,020
    KFCST=1113 2111 1113 2111  27DAY-AP=010,011   27DAY-KP=3333 2221 2342 2332
 WARNINGS=*SWF;*GSTRM;*AURMIDWCH
   ALERTS=**MINSTRM
!!END-DATA!!
Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.space,sci.space.shuttle,news.answers
From: wmc@photon.com (Bill Cornette)
Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.space
Subject: Re: Too thin for light pressure? (was Re: Diesen sphere or Strungen Sphere)
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:32:47 GMT
Organization: Photon Research Associates, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Paul Dietz (dietz@cs.rochester.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Oct14.013809.1@fnalc.fnal.gov> higgins@fnalc.fnal.gov (Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey) writes:
: 
: > I doubt whether 3 microns is enough to be reasonably opaque, let alone
: > a nearly perfect reflector (which you want when building a solar
: > sail.)  I don't have a handbook handy, but I think you need dozens of
: > microns of aluminum to make a good reflector.
: 
: I believe the skin depth of aluminum at optical wavelengths is in
: the tens of nanometers.  You can reduce the mass still further by
: drilling holes << 1 wavelength in diameter.
          

What wavelength did you have in mind -- admittedly, you can assume that
most of the solar energy is less that 4-5 microns, but there is still quite
a lot of solar flux down below 0.2 microns -- and remember the lower the
wavelength, the higher the frequency and the more energic the photon.
	Maybe you can figure out a way to drill holes << 0.1 micron (or
so) but I wouldn't enjoy doing it.
From: j.jahn@abbs.hanse.de (Jost Jahn)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Sunspots at 06.10.1992.
Reply-To: j.jahn@abbs.hanse.de
Date: 06 Oct 92 19:34:00 MET
Distribution: sci
Organization: ABBS AstroMail, D-W 2121 Dahlenburg / Germany
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Sunspots at 06.10.1992., 0 h UT.

No.    Pos.  Cl.  Ar.  Mag. SF  F  M  X
---------------------------------------
7294 12S 73W Hhx  200   a    1
7295 13N 54W Hsx   40   a
7296 07N 52W Axx    0   a
7298 17N 17W Bxo   20   b
7299 13N 01W Axx    0   a
7300 13N 20E Cso   50   b
7301 16S 01W Dro   40   b
7302 15S 38W Bxo   10   b
7303 13S 04E Dki  240   gd   1
7304 03N 21W Bxo   10   b
7305 12N 29E Dao  110   b    3     1
7306 07S 51E Bxo   20   b    1


Optical and x-ray flares in 05.10.92.

Date     Beg. Max. End   Posit. Xray Opt
----------------------------------------
05.10.92 0913 0931 0956  .   .  M2.0
05.10.92 1509 1522 1601 11N 33E M1.4 SN


 
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Newsgroups: sci.astro
From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: UFO EVIDENCE VS. Carl Sagan
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:33:25 GMT

In article 1bj332INN6b3@fido.asd.sgi.com, mtj@babar.asd.sgi.com (Michael Jones) writes:
>In article <...>, kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn) writes:
>  [...bold CONJECTURES and OPINIONS about aliens and supressed EVIDENCE...]
>
>PERHAPS this new STYLE of typography is the TEXTUAL equivalent of
>seeing ED MCMAHON'S face on a LETTER in your MAILBOX.

New STYLE?  MAD Magazine has been USING it for YEARS!

ObAstro:  Third foggy night in a row in the East Bay.  Bah.

---
Richard Stueven        gak@wrs.com         attmail!gakhaus!gak        107/H/3&4
	Did William Faulkner have little creatures on his old typewriter?
	If so, they were the product of whiskey, which addles the brain less
	than cartoon creatures and menus and buttons that send messages to
	the screen demanding: "Abort? Quit? Try Again? Drop Dead? Exit? Go To
	Hell You Schnook?" - Mike Royko
From: bunner@vms.macc.wisc.edu (Dana A. Bunner)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Thanks & An Acorn
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:02:30 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

First I want to express my appreciation for the assistance I have received
from the subscribers to this forum.  I reactivated my interest in astronomy
about a month ago and since then have posted 3 information requests to this
forum.  The response was helpful and considerate of my lack of knowledge. 
Also I have been impressed with the wealth of information posted here.  It
has greatly expanded my understanding of astronomical topics.  

Second I must say that even a blind pig finds an acorn once in a while.  
In part thanks to the telescope buying FAQ posted here, I was able to gain
an understanding of the differences of major types of telescope design.
This information enabled me to recognize that a deal offered in my local
newspaper was a great bargain, well actually it was more of a steal, and
I jumped on it ... where a month ago I would have passed it by without 
a thought.  It may seem a great injustice that a neophyte amateur 
astromonier got to purchase a 13" Odyssey 1 with Telrad, 2 Meade Super
Plossel eyepieces, 2 Meade Extra Wide Super Plossel eyepieces, a Televue
2.5X barlow, and a Meade 140 2X barlow, all in very good to excellent
condition for $500 cash & carry (grunt!), but that's how it goes sometimes.
(all of it was 9-15 months old)

Now if one of you can offer some advice as to how to penetrate midwestern
cloudy skies ...

Thanks again

Dana Bunner
Academic Computing Center
University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: ch.steyaert@abbs.hanse.de (Chris Steyaert)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: Observing Venus in daylight
Reply-To: ch.steyaert@abbs.hanse.de
Date: 07 Oct 92 20:51:00 MET
Distribution: sci
Organization: ABBS AstroMail, D-W 2121 Dahlenburg / Germany
X-Version: ZerUU V6.45c

It is certainly possible to observe Venus during daylight right now.
Last week, Alphonse Pouplier (see his article in S&T Sept 92) mentioned
me this.  However, he uses a computer controlled telescope, which
makes the search much easier. 
   
 c 
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From: *T@x102a.ess.harris.com (@Fi)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: Mars Observer and the "Face"
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:45:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: mlb.1992Oct13.154550.29640
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: 
: In article <1992Oct12.124423.1@stsci.edu>, gawne@stsci.edu writes...
: >Oh boy.  Along these lines, I've looked thru my Atlas of Mars trying to
: >find this "feature" without success.  Perhaps someone can point me to
: >a specific page and map?  Or did the face come from the same survey that
: >showed us the dinosaurs that resembled iguanas?
: > 
: >I've always pretty much assumed that the "face" represents a curious
: >combination of crater, interior features, and shadows.
: > 
: >-Bill Gawne,  Space Telescope Science Institute
: 

  Our local paper, the Florida Today (aka the Florida Mullet Wrapper),
published some "other" faces on Mars that they said are sent out by NASA
when people inquire about this formation.  One looked for all the world
like Kermit the Frog in profile; the other like a smiley face button.
Was Jim Hensen influenced by the aliens??  Another cover up????

  Personally, I'll take Bill's explanation.  We've probably photographed
10^12 rock formations on Mars, the Moon, Mercury, and the moons of the outer
planets.  Finding one that looks like a face when the light is right doesn't
seem very improbable.

  (In case the city isn't familiar, we're about 40 miles south of the KSC,
and probably half the workers on the cape read that newspaper.  So we're
not the typical audience.)

Bob

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