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From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: The speedy Brewers and Expos.
Date: 30 Aug 92 21:17:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.19982
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


I had the oppurtunity to see the Brewers/Jays game on CBS
and boy was I impressed by the lethal speed of the Crew.
David Cone was totally out of rythm with the Brew runners
constantly harassing him by steals. 

I would love to see a World Series between the Brew Crew and
their speedy counterparts in the National League, the Expos.

S.H
Forever Twins
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From: kettler@mitme5.mit.edu (KETTLER, THOMAS R.)
Subject: Re: Brave fans
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: MIT Lab for Nuclear Science
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:00:00 GMT

In article <398@sbmsg1.UUCP>, acw@sbmsg1.UUCP (Alvin White)               writes...
>>
>I was a game many years ago and Bob Horner hit four home runs.
>Unfortunately he had five at bats.  On either his third or
>fourth at bat he popped out.  He was actually booed.  Talk
>about disbelief!!!

The great thing about that game was that the Expos still won the game even 
though Horner had the four runs by a score something like 9-6. I think all his 
homers were solo shots which would make sense for Horner since he rarely ever 
hit a homer with a man on in his career.

					Sincerely yours,

					Thomas R. Kettler "Expos Fanatic"
From: genetic+@pitt.edu (Dr. Dave)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: AL MLV update
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:58:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: blue.5480
Organization: Department of Industrial Engineering

I just saw some downloaded AL stats through 9/1, so I pounced on them and
produced a new AL MLV report.

The amazing shock news is that Frank Thomas is no longer leading the known
galaxy in marginal runs per game, but has been passed by the ever-more-amazing
Edgar Martinez.  Martinez is a shoo-in for my MVP vote at this point.

Rather than try to list the entire league, lets do this by position.  I'll
give the top and bottom three at each position, and maybe a comment here and
there.

For you Ceciphiles out there, Fielder currently ranks 46th in marginal runs
per game, at .066.  This places him well behind teammates Whitaker (.228),
Deer (.168), Tettleton (.130), Phillips (.111), and Fryman (.071).  Cecil
does a bit better in Total Marginal Runs, ranking 40th in the league, but
behind the same 5 teammates.  (All rankings are among players with 300+ PAs
as of 9/1/92).

	Position	Player		MR/G	 TMR

	Catcher		Tettleton	.130	16.4
			Steinbach	.099	 9.3
			Harper		.070	 7.4
			.
			.
			.
			Surhoff		-.132	-13.4
			Alomar S.	-.140	-10.4
			Pena T.		-.192	-16.4

	First Base	Thomas		.403	52.4
			McGwire		.344	39.7
			Olerud		.201	19.7
			...
			Vaughn M.	.000	-0.0
			Martinez T.	-.035	-3.5
			O'Brien		-.134	-11.9

	Second Base	Alomar R.	.232	28.9
			Whitaker 	.228	22.8
			Baerga 		.137	17.8
			...
			Reynolds H.	-.079	-8.6
			Reed Jody	-.079	-10.1
			Sax		-.171	-20.1  (I told you so, Val.)

	Third Base	Martinez E.	.414(!) 52.2
			Gomez L.	.134	14.4
			Ventura 	.128	16.5
			...
			Hayes C.	-.060	-6.9
			Gruber		-.148	-12.7
			Gaetti		-.194	-18.5

	Shortstop	Fryman		.071	 9.7
			Vizquel		.052	 4.9
			Listach		.030	 3.5	(Bordick .037/3.9)
			...
			Gagne		-.095	-9.0
			DiSarcina	-.179	-18.5
			Rivera		-.230	-16.5

	Left Field	Mack		.263	33.9
			Henderson	.240	22.0
			Anderson B.	.196	27.4
			...
			Gladden		-.010	-0.8
			Howard		-.014	-1.0
			Hill		-.037	-2.9
			Vaughn G.	-.103	-9.0

	Center Field	Griffey		.296	34.0
			Puckett		.254	33.4
			Gonzalez	.161	19.9
			...
			Felix		-.091	-10.1
			White		-.107	-14.2
			Cuyler		-.184	-13.3
			McRae		-.195	-22.2 (and counting...)

	Right Field	Tartabull	.211	19.9
			Brunansky	.188	18.3
			Deer		.168	12.48
			...
			Munoz		.014	 1.1
			Plantier	-.053	-4.53
			Hayes V.	-.133	-10.9

	Designated	Winfield	.240	30.8
			Molitor		.224	28.7
			Downing		.189	14.6
			...
			Brett		.022	 2.7
			Baines		-.007	-0.7
			Clark J.	-.086	-6.4

	Other		Tony Phillips	.111	15.2
			Rene Gonzalez	.075	 6.6
			Mike Bordick	.037	 3.9
			L. Blankenship	.037	 3.1
			Jerry Browne	.016	 1.2

-- 
      David M. Tate      | From my dugout sleep I fell into the Game
 dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu | And I crouched in the circle while my insides froze
 Randall 'Chico' Jarrell | One out from death, one hit from dreamt-of glory
"Death of a Pinch Hitter"| I woke to 'Strike One!' and the nightmare sliders...
From: sieferme@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: MLB Standings and Scores for Fri, Aug 28th, 1992
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:21:19 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <44666@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> jtchern@ocf.berkeley.edu (Joseph Hernandez) writes:

>		     Won   Lost   Pct.    GB   Last 10   Streak   Home   Road
>NATIONAL WEST
>Los Angeles Dodgers   53    74    .417  22.5     z4-6    Lost 2  34-35  19-39
>
>NATIONAL EAST
>Philadelphia Phillies 51    74    .408  20.0     z3-7    Lost 6  29-35  22-39
>
>AMERICAN WEST
>Seattle Mariners      53    75    .414  23.5     z7-3     Won 1  30-34  23-41
>                                  ^^^^^

Look out Dodgers.  Destiny's Darlings are creeping up on you!
At least, as long as Mike ("Denny's Named A Breakfast For Me") Schooler
is superglued to the bench.

-- 
| Eric Sieferman            |   Edgar Martinez for MVP!              |
| U. of W., M.C.I.S.        |   Dave Fleming for Rookie of the Year! |
| sieferme@u.washington.edu |   Bill Plummer for ... uh ... er ...   |
From: hymowitz@whatever.cs.jhu.edu (Hymie!)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Home Run Rule: Lind's Hit in Dodger-Pirate Game
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:35:06 GMT
Organization: Creative Sensualities dept, Jacquie's House of Underwear

charly@hal.COM (Charly Rhoades) writes:
>the ball
>was batted off the outfieled wall, and as it was coming down off the
>wall, the outfielder inadvertantly knocked the ball (with his hand
>or glove) back up and over the wall.

>It was ruled a double at the time.  Any comments?

/*
 * a ball that bounces off the wall is no longer a fly but a bounding
 * ball.  so, if it goes over the wall, it is a ground rule double.
 */

--hymie
hymowitz@cs.jhu.edu                                         hymie@jhuvms.bitnet
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From: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
Subject: lifers( WAS Re: Cal Ripken Signed)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:29:43 GMT

Distribution: usa

In article <1992Aug26.175125.28874@uwm.edu> paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R  
Krueger) writes:
> In article <1992Aug26.164039.8783@stsci.edu> rkidwell@stsci.edu (Richard C.  
Kidwell,mgr) writes:
> >
>    <stuff deleted>
> 
> >It is good to have a team 'lifer' I guess. They truly are a rare breed.
> >We will see how the Puckett deal goes, there are some similarities to
> >this situation.
> >
>    Being a fan of the Brewhas, I have only one thing to say to this post.
> 
>    Can you say Robin Yount?

Yeah. But we Brewer fans are spoiled with Yount, Molitor & Gantner.
Such players are still rare (not nonexistant) and always have been.

john rickert
rickert@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
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From: williams@jazz.concert.net (Edward Williams)
Subject: Ben McDonald's nickname
Organization: Center for Communications, MCNC; RTP, NC
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:42:57 GMT

Another entry into the Ben McDonald nickname sweepstakes:

Ben Snidely "Whiplash" McDonald

Ed
From: jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: The Ack-man Lives!
Date: 29 Aug 92 18:36:27 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

paula@koufax.cv.hp.com (Paul Andresen) writes:
>
>Recently, whilst perusing rec.arts.tv, I came across the following in a post:
>
>>      Any more questions?
>>
>>      Jim Acker
>>      jgacker@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov
>
>It looks like our favorite net.whipping.boy does rocket science as well :-)
                                                                 ^^^^^^^
Let's hope he does it better, not "as well"....unless NASA wants a cheap
solution to launching unmanned, spherical satellites.

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From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt Bose "of Biscayzee")
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Sutcliff has big-time guts!!!!!
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:19:08 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <92239.071447KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu> KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>
>   Rick Sutcliff of the O's pitched a 4 hitter last night through 8 innings

>You have to admire players like that, especially when you have players who
>use ingrown toenails as excuses not to play. 

And just by way of contrast, how much support do you think your legs can give
you when you've got the equivalent of a sharp nail pushing into a sensitive toe?

While we're at it, how much force do you believe a major league pitcher puts on
his feet?

(As a chronic sufferer of ingrown toenails, I have a certain sympathy for people
afflicted with the malady)

Do you snicker when an NFL running back comes down with turf toe?

(Completely unrelated to anything, where's Huckabay?)

-- 
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I AM the AntiWoofer. - Junior Stathead{tm} - I'm a shutmouthed, selfless idiot!!
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From: yajima@nttcom.ntt.jp (YAJIMA Hiroshi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball,soc.culture.japan,fj.rec.baseball
Subject: Japanse High School Baseball Championships
Date: 24 Aug 92 00:04:37 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: NTT Network Information Systems Labs. Musashino, Tokyo

Japanse High School Baseball Championships(games on Sunday August 23)

Toho(Aichi) 5, Tenri(Nara) 4
 Shinya Fuse singled in two runs in the 11th inning as Aichi Prefecture's Toho
High School edged Nara Prefecture's Tenri 5-4 in the quarter-finals of the 
National High School Baseball Championship Sunday at Koshien Stadium.
 Before a sellout crowd of 55,000 Toho tied the score at 3-3  in the top of 
the ninth on two hits, setting up the fifth extra-inning game of the 
tournament.
 Toho loaded the bases with none out in the 11th on two hits and a fielding 
error. Fuse then hit a single up the middle for a 5-3 lead.
 Although Takashi Yamada gave up one run in the bottom of the 11th on Shintaro
Horinouchi's one-out groundout in the bases-loaded situation, Toho held on for
the victory.

 Jinsei Gakuen(Kagawa) 5, Hiroshima Kogyo(Hiroshima) 0
 Daisuke Nakamichi went 3 for 4 and homered twice Sunday to back Takafumi 
Watanabe's five-hitter, leading Jinsei Gakuen from Kagawa Prefecture to a 
shutout of Hiroshima Kogyo from Hiroshima Prefecture in the day's first 
quarterfinal game.
 
 Nishinippon Tandai Fuzoku(Fukuoka) 6, Hokuriku(Fukui) 1
 Fireballer Kazutaka Morio hurled a seven-hitter as Fukuoka's Nishinippon
Tandai Fuzoku beat Fukui's Hokuriku.
 
 Takudai Koryo(Chiba) 2, Ikeda(Tokushima) 1
 Takashi Tachikawa belted a two-run homer in the top of the ninth, leading
Chiba Prefecture's Takudai Koryo over Tokushima's Ikeda.
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From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt Bose "of Biscayzee")
Subject: Re: bonds for justice
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 22:19:48 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Keywords: bonds, justice

In article <bone.714852175@luciano.Stanford.EDU> bone@luciano.Stanford.EDU (Douglas J. Bone) writes:
>Still, I would rather
>have him than Bonds because he is younger-- Bonds is clearly a better
>player now, but not that much better and not (perhaps) for much longer.

Bonds is only a year and a half (give or take a few months) older than Justice,
has speed, hits for a higher average, walks more, has a better arm, and has as
much power as Justice in a worse park for batting.  Players of Bonds's type
age rather well (see Bonds, Bobby).  Do you really see Justice as a great player
in six or seven years?  

>I doubt one could get enough for Justice to make that approach better than
>simply signing someone.  The Braves need infeilders and a catcher.  The
>pitching is great and the bullpen rescuable (there are enough good pitchers
>around the organization). Who are the best infeilders available via trade?
>
Depends on which way the free agents fall.  If Klesko isn't ready, Justice may
still be able to help at first.  It would make more sense to deal Nixon, though
I agree that Justice would bring more. 

>Who do you think will have the better career-- Justice or Gant?  I would
>have said Justice last year and would be still so inclined, though his
>injuries are worrisome (a bad back this year, not on DL since early Spring).

I still say Gant.  Gant really doesn't have a great stolen base record, but his
speed is still light years ahead of Justice.  Gant has proven to be more durable
and has been a better player than Justice in the past, though the last two years
have been Justice's.  (I'm referring to the fact that Gant was in the majors as
early as 1987, while Justice was in the minors.) Justice is, again, only a year
younger than Gant, and players with his skills decline fairly rapidly.  Gant
plays a more demanding defensive position (or rather, did).  I still feel that
Gant will be playing after Justice retires.  But Bonds will still be starring.

-- 
Kurt Bose (as in Daisy, not Rose) - kbos@carina.unm.edu - I'm not the AntiChrist
I AM the AntiWoofer. - Junior Stathead{tm} - I'm a shutmouthed, selfless idiot!!
Latest Attempted Compiler of the R.S.BB FAQ - Now Accepting Submissions...(hint)
Have you hugged a Dan Gladden fan today? - Dave Rossing : .531/54/214 at Denver!
From: psg+@pitt.edu (Paul S Galvanek)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: OH! Sherri won't like this. (Re: Sierra to be traded?)
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:50:32 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <21011@optima.cs.arizona.edu> dkl@cs.arizona.edu (David K. Lowenthal) writes:
>
>What I want to say:
>
>  What a JOKE.  There is no way the Rangers will trade Sierra for a
>pretty good prospect.  It would need to be much more.  Come on, don't
>suggest silly trades (I know Gammons said it, but he is a dork anyways)
>

Come on yourself Dave.  If the Rangers don't make this trade what will
Sierra be worth to them in six weeks?  They're not going to be able to 
resign him, from what I hear he will not resign with Texas for any price
and the Rangers are out of the pennant race so a Sierra for ANY prospect
is a plus for them at this point.  

This not a matter of getting something of equal for Sierra, that's simply
not going to happen at this point in the season and it is a choice between
getting something or getting nothing.

PSG

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From: calvin@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (scott.a.kaye)
Subject: World Series Tickets Question
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:35:26 GMT

	I heard that the Pirates have announced post season ticket sales through
mail order.  I am interested in getting tickets for the World Series, but given
the Pirates last 2 tries in the NLCS, I have a question.  Is there any type of
refund policy if the Pirates don't make it to the World Series, or do you just
get a strip of 4 tickets for your scrapbook?  I assume there must be some kind
of refund, but want to be absolutly sure that I am not throwing my $100 out.

					Thanks,
						Scott
-- 
    Scott Kaye				  "Were going to need another Timmy."	
    AT&T			    		-Mr. Lizard               
    100 Southgate Pkwy			   I can't speak for myself, so how 
    Morristown, NJ  07960		   could I speak for AT&T?
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From: savoy@hg.uleth.ca (Jim Savoy)
Subject: Re: Trade rumors
Reply-To: savoy@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:38:07 GMT


> dae@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.a.elliott) writes:

>The Cardinals could certainly use him, but why would the Yankees want Jose?
>He may be better than some of their outfielders, but he would not be a
>dramatic improvement over any of them.  I would think that the Yankees will
>try to get some pitching for him.

I will be the first to admit that I know of no good way to judge a player's
fielding abilities other than by just watching him. It's obvious to me that
Terry Pendleton has twice/thrice the range of Carney Lansford for example, and
I haven't read up on their respective fielding stats. I just see them play on
TV every once in a while.

But a guy like Felix Jose intrigues me. Sometimes he looks like a big ox out
there in right and sometimes he looks great. As for his stats - he is listed
very highly in the RNG category in USA Today, the Scouting Report says he has
a great arm, etc and yet he has been continually trashed in this forum for
being a poor fielder that should be playing first-base! What's the scoop on
this guy? (didn't someone - Nelson? - put up a listing recently that had
Larry Walker-Felix Jose ranked numbers 1-and-2 in the league defensively?

 _____________________________________________________________________________
     Jim Savoy          University Of Lethbridge         savoy@hg.uleth.ca

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From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri Farenell)
Subject: Re: RULEBOOK TRIVIA 18
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:33:32 GMT

Ryan Robbins <IO20456@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:

>With the bases empty, the batter hits a shot deep into the hole.
>The second baseman chases the ball down, grabs it, and then wheels
>and throws to first. The throw is wide to the right field side of
>the bag, and the first baseman has to stretch long and hard. He
>blocks the bounding ball with his bare hand, but is unable to
>actually pick the ball up. The ball is on the ground, with the
>first baseman's hand around it. You're the first base umpire. The
>first baseman's foot is on the bag, the throw beat the runner. Is
>the runner safe or out? Does the first baseman have possession of
>the ball, even though it is still on the ground?

My dad, an ump, asked me a similar question, asking what would happen if
a 1B did the same thing if a ball got down his uniform. He said that the
runner would be safe because the 1B doesn't really have possesion of the ball.
I would say that this would probably be the same thing. Runner is safe.

BTW- The scenario my father put forth is not so ridiculous, I saw it happen
on a bad-hop to Omar Vizquel in AA in 1987.

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From: psg+@pitt.edu (Paul S Galvanek)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: DAVID CONE TO BLUE JAYS
Date: 30 Aug 92 15:29:19 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Aug27.164123.9943@uwm.edu> paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:
>
>   No way. (please) If that's the case, I'm really bummin'. Just in time
>   for the Brewhas, they must be pretty scared....
>
>   --salty


Yep the Brewers really looked scared to me, seven runs in 6 2/3 innings 
seven stolen bases and more hits than you can shake a stick at.  Quick
someone give that hindlick thingy to Cito he's choking!

David Cone's pathetic debut, Kevin Mitchell's poor year and Gary Shefield's
sudden hitting prowes has brought an question to mind.  Has there been any 
National League player that's been able to make the transition to the American 
League with any degree of success?  In the last few years that is.   

Although I'm sure there are numerous other reason but with a guy like Sheffield
who had been anything but a star in the AL suddenly rising to the top of the
NL in offense and the big stars like Mitchell and Cone getting wasted it would
appear on the surface that the AL organizations are landing the more talented
players these days.  I can't think of a single player in recent memory that has
gone from being a NL star to the AL and been able to carry over his success.

humm?

Paul
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		 | up as moderates and centrists - in the greatest single 
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From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Subject: Re: Cal Ripken Signed
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:55:12 GMT

In article <BtL7CM.MB7@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> rstimets@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (robert and stimets) writes:
>
>  GOOD GOD!!!
>deserves money like this.  My only hope is that ridiculous contracts
>like this don't kill the game of baseball.

Nothing will kill baseball unless the owners are *really* stupid.  But
it isn't the $7 million salaries that are inflated.  It is those
signings like Darwin, Young, Clark, Santiago, Pena, Hatcher...  Why
are any of these guys getting paid more than $1 million???  Some of
them actively hurt their teams!

That being said, I think Cal Ripken will turn out to be a bust.  Last
year notwithstanding, he is over the hill.  This year is is worst
ever.  Before that, 1989 and 1990 were career bottoms.  He will be 36
in the last year of his contract, and while he might earn $6 million
next year, I doubt he will be worth it after five more years of
decline.

Of course, there is one more factor to consider.  Ripken is worth
quite a bit to the Orioles for his ability to draw fans.  So perhaps
he isn't quite so ridiculously overpaid.

Sorry, O's fans!

Cheers,
-Valentine
-- 
Clemens may not win his 4th CY, but he still rules!	tedward@cs.cornell.edu
From: acw@sbmsg1.UUCP (Alvin White)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Brave fans
Date: 31 Aug 92 12:37:05 GMT
Reply-To: acw@sbmsg1.UUCP (Alvin White)
Organization: Southern Bell - MSG  Atlanta, Ga

In article <66893@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt7469a@prism.gatech.EDU (Brian Landmann) writes:
>I'm getting really tired of poor Braves's fans.
>I went to the Braves/Expos game last night and to my disbelief the
>fans were booing Tom Glavine.  I know every city has some poor
>fans but how can you boo a guy who has already won 19 games?
>
>
I was a game many years ago and Bob Horner hit four home runs.
Unfortunately he had five at bats.  On either his third or
fourth at bat he popped out.  He was actually booed.  Talk
about disbelief!!!

Alvin White
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