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From: michaelh@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Mike Hennahane)
Subject: Re: Using 4D menus
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 12 Nov 92 00:41:12 GMT

dt1n+@andrew.cmu.edu (David Tsai) writes:

>How in the world do you get the menus working in 4D when you leave the
>first menu bar?
[...]
>work.  Somewhere in the book it says to use negative numbers for
>runtime...I tried that everywhere I could thing of but that did not work.

negative menu bar numbers are the key here.  assigning a negative menu
bar to a layout will APPEND that menubar to the current menubar.  if
you want a whole new menubar, you should set the menubar with the MENU
BAR command, then assign the same menubar to the layout you are using
(but with a NEGATIVE number to activate it).  you will not end up with
2 copies of the same menubar, just one that works.

>The problem I see is that the menu item does not perform the procedure
>assigned to it.

this is the negative menubar problem again.  the items look like they
should work, but they do not.

>I did some more looking around and I have also found a couple of
>commands which I do not understand: "Check Item" and "Menu selected" 
>The thing is I don't know if these options are of any use to my problem.
> Help...?

these have nothing to do with your problem.  check item puts a check
mark next to the item you specify; menu selected tells you which item
was selected off which menu.

--mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: asunta@convex.csc.FI (Miika Asunta)
Subject: FileMaker Runtime Suggestion
Organization: Finnish Academic and Research Network Project - FUNET
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 15:47:07 GMT


I know FileMaker is much lighter software compared to 4D or DBase, but
anyway I have some layouts / dbases that I would like to distribute,
but for the possible buyers the price of FileMaker or any other
commercial program is too high - a runtime version without layout
editing would make life easier for them.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: michaelh@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Mike Hennahane)
Subject: Re: 4D question
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date:  6 Nov 92 10:27:20 GMT

jjwright@gandalf.rutgers.edu (     Jay) writes:

>i just created a 4d application, my very first one :) and i wanted to
>change the background screen from the 4d emblem to something that i
>create in paint (perhaps) or some other graphics file..  or even a
>blank back drop would be fine.  anything but the 4d emblem.

>is there a way to do this, i figure there must be, but i couldnt find
>anything about it in the manuals.

each menu bar may have a graphic associated with it.  you should use
the menu editor to open up the one that shows at startup and choose
'show custom menus.' while the custom menus are showing, paste in your
graphic off the clipboard.  you can then click anywhere to stop
showing custom menus.

--mike
From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: FMP Index Question
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:12:56 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.databases

In article <1992Nov4.230229.28459@athena.mit.edu>, rajiv@athena.mit.edu
(Rajiv A Manglani) wrote:
> 
> I have a text field that has two to three words per line... is there any way
> to have FileMaker display entire lines in the Index, instead of single
> words?
> 
> Rajiv
> rajiv@athena.mit.edu

Seperate the word with option-spaces instead of spaces.  The option-space
is a "sticky space" and the entire text is treated as one word.  The
trade-off is that you will not be able to word wrap on a sticky space.

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From: vermilye@Oswego.EDU (Jon R. Vermilye)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: FMP Index Question
Keywords: FileMaker
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:46:33 GMT
Reply-To: vermilye@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Jon R. Vermilye)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

In article <1992Nov4.230229.28459@athena.mit.edu> rajiv@athena.mit.edu (Rajiv A Manglani) writes:
>I have a text field that has two to three words per line... is there any way
>to have FileMaker display entire lines in the Index, instead of single
>words?
>
>Rajiv
>rajiv@athena.mit.edu

Use a non breaking space (option-space) rather than the standard space
when entering info in the field.  This will index the entire group of
words rather than each.

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From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: FileMaker Runtime Suggestion
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:34:54 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Amos Tuck School
Disclaimer: I don't represent Dartmouth and Dartmouth doesn't represent me.

In <1992Nov12.154707.28881@nic.funet.fi> asunta@convex.csc.FI (Miika Asunta) writes:

>but for the possible buyers the price of FileMaker or any other
>commercial program is too high - a runtime version without layout
>editing would make life easier for them.

Totally right. A runtime version of FileMaker Pro with no layout ability,
etc would be an interesting product. One person develops the DB and
everyone else just uses it.

Ideal for bundle/site license type deal.

Oh well...

-Geoff
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From: matsj@Ios.CMD.UU.SE (Mats Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: 4D: Assigning Unique Integers
Date: 6 Nov 92 12:01:02
Organization: CMD - Center for human computer studies, Uppsala University
Reply-To: Mats.Johnson@CMD.UU.SE
NNTP-Posting-Host: ios.cmd.uu.se
In-reply-to: michaelh@Xenon.Stanford.EDU's message of 6 Nov 92 00:50:36 GMT


What about the builtin function "sequence number([File])? I think I
remember reading it has some multiuser problems, but that ought to be
solvable, for example by start/end transaction?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: michaelh@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Mike Hennahane)
Subject: Re: 4D XRef info wanted please
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:42:24 GMT

rgaros@bio.vu.nl (Rene G.A. Ros) writes:

>Can someone tell me what 4D XRef exacly does? Does it 'produce'
>only a lot of paper or can I, for example, find and replace
>in all procedures and scripts???

it produces a lot of paper.  it can be very useful, though.  i have
the initial version;  i don't know if it has been changed since then.

--mike

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: dent@DIALix.oz.au (Andrew Dent)
Subject: Re: 4D: Layout ???s
Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 13:44:07 GMT

There IS a way to use MODIFY SELECTION to have a list of records from one
file and programmatically jump to another file, it just gets a little messy
to implement first/prev/next/last buttons in the target file.

Basically, you have a BLANK input layout in the list file, with a proc
something like:

if (Before)
  lookup the [Projects] file based on this [Customer]
  call an edit procedure that does a MODIFY RECORD([Customer])
  CANCEL
end if

The CANCEL is so the current blank input layou exits before it is shown.

Andy Dent (A.D. Software - Mac & VAX programming)
94 Bermuda Dve, BALLAJURA  Western Australia  6066
Phone/Fax: 09 249 2719 (local)  +619 249 2719 (International)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Distribution: world
From: Stefan_Karos@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:23:15 EST
Subject: Re: 4D: Assigning Unique Integers

Yes there is a command named "sequence number".

Sequence number({file} ) -> number
file - file for which to return the sequence number

Sequence number returns a unique number every time it is called for a
particular file.  These numbers can be used as unique record identifiers.  A
sequence number is also returned when you use the #N symbol as a default value
for a field in a layout.

If file is not specified, the default file is used. 

See Also
Record*number, GOTO*RECORD, Selected*record*number, GOTO*SELECTED*RECORD

Manual Reference
L270-271

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: Joshua D. Wachs <joshua@natural.com>
Subject: 4D Experts Wanted!!!
X-Xxdate: Thu, 12 Nov 92 20: 41:22 GMT
Organization: Natural Intelligence, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:41:43 GMT

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Candidates must have a strong working knowledge of 4th DIMENSION
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4D DAL, etc.)

Knowledge of any of the following is a plus: C, SQL, MacToolbox,
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If you've got what we want, send a cover letter and resume,
including salary requirements to: 

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Date: Tue,  3 Nov 92 15:44:55 MST
From: sson@bones.caedm.byu.edu (Stacey Son)
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Novell/Unix bridge software? NW server on Unix ?
Reply-To: sson@byu.edu


We are trying out both the IBM's portable netware based on V3.11
(running on a RS/6000) and HP's version 3.01b (running on a 9000/750).
We have found that both are very reliable but a little on the slow
side.  However, the software support (from IBM and HP) is much better
than Novell's.

If you are looking for speed you may want to wait for the Native
version for the HP PA (700/800) that will be based on NetWare V4.0.
Early reports have indicated that this is about 10X faster than any
native Intel based server.


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From: joeb@hitwr.hauppaugeNY.NCR.COM (Joe Beiter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: 10 Base T on Novell
Date: 12 Nov 92 10:05:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: ADDS: NCR Displays Division




Our company just installed a 10 Base T backbone recently and I'm looking
forward to bridging out current 3 Novell networks to it.  I can't seem to
find any reference to '10 Base T' in any of the Admin manuals though.  Is
this being called something else (like RX)?  I assumed I'd just purchase
a 10 BaseT card, throw it into a server then plug it into the backbone
but I can't tell what driver I need to use for it.

Thanks for any help on this!

- JoeB

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: mcollins@db (Marty Collins)
Subject: Re: LAN WorkPlace NFS Client (Permissions)
Organization: Novell, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:33:20 GMT

bgruttad@slick.webo.dg.com (Brian Gruttadauria) writes:
: Novell NFS LAN WorkPlace is succsessfully installed on my PC
: I have also built and executed the lwpnfsd daemon to run
: in my Unix server.
: 
: The problem which I am having has to do with the user/ownership
: permissions given to a file when it is created by ROOT on a NFS 
: mounted filesystem.
: 
: Scenario:
: ------------------ From the PC -------------------------------
: 
: 1. net register as root
: 2. net link k: <exportable file system>
: 3. Do a net group k: to see which groups are available to root
:    Everything looks OK; group on k: is set to other 
: 4. create a file on the k: drive
: 5. The file is created as follows: 
:    ls -gal
:    -rwx------  1 nobody   65534        36       foo 
: 
: ------------------ On Unix side --------------------------------
: ls -al
: -rwx------   1 nobody   65534         36 Nov  5 15:03 foo 
: 
: 
: Does Anyone have any suggestions!!!

How did you export whatever it is that you net linked? If you want
root permission then you must export with -root pc_ip_host_name.
Otherwise there is no mapping of root and uid=0. This is because if
you just allowed all uids through then root would have massive access
and in the scope of things you may not what root access to certain machines.


: 
: 
: 				- Thankyou in Advance
:  
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From: jim.mcneill@almac.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: upgrading from 2.15?
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:59:48 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: ALMAC BBS Ltd

We have a version 2.15 of Novell netware, and it's menu system
(using too much workstation memory) and printer handling (needs
LANSPOOL for workstation printers, and God that's _buggy_) drive me
batty.  Thing is, I might be dumping the lot in ~6 months anyway (for
<cough> an 'open' system); would anyone recommend me to upgrade in the
meantime?  And if so, why?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: keith@novell.com (Keith Brown)
Subject: Re: Univel Vs. Netware/386 Performance?
Organization: Novell, Inc. San Jose, California
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:33:58 GMT

In article <BxHLKq.Dx6@sti.com> westes@sti.com (Will Estes) writes:
>Does anyone have some specifications on the performance of Univel versus
>Netware/386 as either an NFS server or as a Netware server?  

The Univel "Personal Edition" is a NetWare client, not a server. It is
only the Univel "Application Server" that is equipped to act as a
NetWare server in the IPX/NCP sense.

Will a Univel Application Server be as fast as a native NetWare server
at being a NetWare server? The truthful answer has to be "no, but it
will be as high a percentage of native NetWare performance as they can
make it". The philosophy of the native NetWare OS is tune it, tune it,
tune it and when you have finished tuning it, tune it some more.  The
Univel Application Server is primarily a UNIX Application Server (as
indeed its name would have you believe), not a NetWare server. It is in
the same position as most of NetWares more traditional competitors such
as LAN Manager, LAN Server, Banyan Vines and other styles of UNIX
system. It is capable of acting as a functional network operating
system but it has the intrinsic software design of a general purpose
operating system.

To draw a more readily understood analogy, Nigel Mansell could take
a stock Porsche 928S and have a pretty good crack at hurtling
round a formula one circuit with a respectable time. However, equip
the man with a Williams Honda and the Porsche is going to look pretty
damn silly by comparison. Of course, the Williams does have its
disadvantages. You can't really take the kids to school in it and
there's no room to bring any shopping home either but apply it to
the task for which it was designed and well..... 

As for anything being able to be a faster NFS server than NetWare NFS
on an equivalent hardware platform, *GET SERIOUS*! :-)

Keith
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: dseeman@novell.com (Daniel Seeman)
Subject: Re: How to disable Zone broadcast in NW4Mac V3.0
Keywords: apple
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:32:40 GMT

In article <92Nov10.184230.19033@acs.ucalgary.ca> nguyen@acs.ucalgary.ca (Tu Nguyen) writes:
>Hi Folks,
> We are running Netware 3.11 + NetWare for Mac V3.0. 
>We have an apple talk zone consisting two Macs and two Lasers
>running off the NOvell Server using Dayna's DL2000. Is there
>a way to hide this zone from the Mac's on Ethernet side? I have
>read the manual carefully and can't seem to find a way to
>turn off the broadcast.
> Any help is greately appreciated.
>
Hi,

With 3.0 NW4MAC, the only way to get your print services to disappear on the
ethernet side is to unbind AppleTalk from the ethernet NIC in the server.  I
suspect that is not what you wanted to do since there must be a need to get
to the file server from ethernet Macintoshes.

If you upgrade to NW4MAC 3.011, you will find this solution is pretty easy.  
First, you would use the -h flag to "hide" the real printer so no one can print
directly to the printer.  Then you would use the -a flag to force users to
login to the server before they can use the print queues.  At this point you can
restrict a users access to the queue directory with security so that the user
cannot write to that queue directory.  Or you can just remove a user from the
queue's user list.  Either of these solutions will work, but the latter will
be nicer since it may give you better error messages.


I hope this helps...

Think Peace...

Dan Seeman 
Novell
Walnut Creek, Ca.
From: mhart@blackjack.dt.navy.mil (Michael Hart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Novell vs. Lan Manager, which one do I choose?
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:41:01 GMT

In <1992Nov12.132051.8471@uk03.bull.co.uk> pmoore@hemel.bull.co.uk (Paul Moore) writes:

>dseeman@novell.com (Daniel Seeman) writes:

>My answer is dont touch LAN manager. It big slow complex hard to install on
>a PC , big on the PC, not so well supported by 3rd parties ....
>WHereas Novell is big fast complex to install easy to install on a PC, small
>on the PC and well supported ..

Interesting.  Reports from InfoWorld, LAN Magazine, and PCWeek all
indicate that LM2.1 is faster than NetWare.

Must be a bit of "red haze" in your filters.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: sdmoore@iastate.edu (Steven D Moore)
Subject: Re: TCP/IP or SPX/IPX ???
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:53:26 GMT

In <1992Nov10.192746.29583@cs.tu-berlin.de> ernst@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker) writes:

>Hi everybody,

>I heard that Novell Netware now works with both protocols, TCP/IP and
>SPX/IPX. Are these different products or can you use both protocols
>at the same time ?

>Which protocol is recommended ? ( At some later stage we might want to
>use Oracle for Novell and access the database from Unix clients )


>Thanks for any info, Ernst.
>--

We are using both IPX and TCP/IP on several of our workstations to allow
access to our Netware 3.11 servers in our department and our UNIX servers
around campus.  We choose Novell's Lan Workplace for DOS because of its
sweet Windows interface, but I do know of other departments using telnet
for access.

Using LW4DOS, you must use Novell's Open Datalink Interface (ODI) drivers.
This allows you to load multiple protocol stacks for the different 
environments.  Word of warning:  the TCP/IP driver is a memory PIG!
Also, my last conversation with our Regional Novell Rep indicated that ODI
will be significantly upgraded for Netware 4.0.  If you are planning to 
roll this onto a bunch of machines, and you plan to migrate, you may want
to wait.

Hope it helps,
Steve Moore
Iowa State University
sdmoore@iastate.edu
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From: gt1870c@prism.gatech.EDU (gt1870c NEELY,ROBERT EDWARD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Ne2000 in 8bit bus
Keywords: NE2000
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:44:23 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I had someone tell me they successfully put a NE2000 into a 8bit slot.
Can anyone else verify that this will work without any problems.
Is there a jumper on the board that needs to be set?

Thanks,
Robert
From: vaughan@sjh.org (Tom Vaughan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: How do I protect my server?
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:56:51 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: St. Joseph Hospital, Cheektowaga, N.Y.

-- 
  Being new to novell 3.11 I have to ask, what is the accepted 
software/procedures for protecting the server from virus attack?

  I could run say norton antivirus on the workstations, but what do I do to
protect the server itself?

  Thanks!

  Tom

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From: eric.lentz@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (Eric Lentz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Printing from WordPerfect
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:04:00 GMT
Reply-To: eric.lentz@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (Eric Lentz)
Organization: The GrapeVine BBS *** N. Little Rock, AR *** (501) 753-8121


N >Users,
N >
N >Site: NWv3.11, 386 16Mb 120Mb disk, Wordperfect v5.1 network version.
N >
N >Printer: NECLC890 emulates postscript connected to LPT1 on server.
N >
N >Problem: Random loss of print jobs from WordPerfect.
N >
N >WordPerfect Config: PORT is set to server printqueue name (e.g. PRINTQ
N >
N >Any thoughts ? I gather the PSERVER.EXE is what was delivered with v3.
N >dated Jan. 91. Reading this group PSERVER may be the problem (yes / no
N >
N >Regards....
N >-- 


YES.  You'll need to update to PSERVER v1.22, available on Compu$erve's 
NetWire forum or BBS' specializing in NetWare files.  

(Try mine: The CANUG BBS 501-682-1722.  The file is PSERV1.ZIP)



--- WinQwk 2.0b#69
From: men408t@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Netware Lite Drivers
Date: 6 Nov 92 10:59:02 +1100
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

Does anybody know where I can get Netware Lite drivers
for Tiara and ArcNet Boards ? 

Is there a program to generate these drivers (com files) from the
standard 4 netware objects that are usually supplied with the cards ?




Thanks in Advance


Dougal
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