HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ysasaki@SCIENCES.SDSU.EDU
Subject: "Japanese Language Prificiency Test"
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 00:19:31 GMT

I have an emergent need to obtain a copy of the following publication:

The Japan  Foundation, The 1990 Japanese Language Proficiency Test Level 3 and
4, Bonjin-sha

(Japanese title: Heisei 2 nen-do Nihongo Nooryoku Shiken)

If you have seen a copy of this at some bookstore, could you let me know
(hopefully with their phone number, as well).

Yoshinori Sasaki
SDSU
From: jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan,soc.culture.japan
Subject: V92-019 of Edict available on monu6
Date: 14 Apr 92 05:28:46 GMT
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.

V19 of EDICT is now in pub/Nihongo on monu6.cc.monash.edu.au for anonymous
ftp or ftpmail collection. It has 19093 entries, a few hundred more than
V18. As before, it is in a text file "edict", and there is also "edict.zoo"
containing edict and edict.jdx ready for use with JDIC and JREADER. I have 
put in a diff file for V18->V19.

While I was at it, I corrected a bit of the "matsushita.pbs" file where some
of the text was missing.

-- 
Jim Breen                           JIS:$B%8%`!!%V%j!<%s(J
Department of Robotics & Digital Technology. Monash University. 
PO Box 197 Caulfield East VIC 3145 Australia (ph) +61 3 573 2552 
(fax) +61 3 573 2745  AARNet/Internet:jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au  
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: palm@nb.rockwell.com (Stephen Palm)
Subject: Re: Japanese on a Sun--Help Request
Organization: Rockwell International, Modem Systems, JEDC
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:00:08 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.014535.7954@denwa.info.com> jimmy@denwa.info.com (Jim Gottlieb) writes:

   I also realize that I have little hope of running any commercial
   Japanese software (like the Japanese edition of Framemaker or
   WriteDrawPaint) since these packages expect you to be running Sun's JLE
   (Japanese Language Environment).  

The Japanese version of FrameMaker *does* work on non JLE. I installed
it on a vanilla 4.1.1 last August.

   I did order my Sun with the Japanese
   Country Kit, though, so that I would get a Japanese keyboard.

Really not necessary... the standard English one will work fine for
Wnn/Nemacs/Kterm.  

   I'm also not sure whether I need to get additional fonts or if the fonts
   that come with OW 3.0 are enough.  It has kanzi and kana fonts, but I
   don't know how to specify them on the command line to kterm.  I tried
   just the font names (i.e. 7x14romankana or Kanji), with the .ff or .fb
   extension, and also with the full path name of the font file, but none
   of these seemed to work.

I don't know what OW 3.0 includes in the way of fonts.  In our previous
setup, we had the option of using OW 2.0 or vanilla MIT X11R4.
We had more Japanese fonts in the MIT setup... but as I recall,
Japanese fonts worked fine in OW 2.0.

If you do wish more fonts... you can proably find what you need at
kythera.nmsu.edu (128.123.1.14)

kiwin
--
-----
Stephen [kiwin] Palm                                     TEL: +81-3-3265-8850
Rockwell International - Digital Communications Division     COMNET: 930-8862
Japan Engineering Design Center                          FAX: +81-3-3265-2864
      palm@nb.rockwell.com       palm@cs.cmu.edu           NIHON::PALM
From: masseyj@NOVAVAX.NOVA.EDU (James Massey)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re:  East-West Music mixture
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:50:29 GMT
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet

thanks; I'll look into it

Jim Massey
Nova University
From: halldors@garlic.cs.titech.ac.jp (Magnus M. Halldorsson)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Ready for another kana war?? (was Re: ankeeto)
Date: 10 Apr 92 08:24:43 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Sci, Tokyo Inst. of Tech., Japan

In article <9204100114.AA13537@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> kumiko@WADALAB.T.U-TOKYO.AC.JP (TANAKA Sho) writes:

   >Namae: Tanaka Kumiko
   >syussinti:Chiba

Q: Why not stick to the system everywhere and write "Tiba"??

A: Face it, 'kunrei-shiki' is beyond silliness.

Moi...
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: RE: Help with MOKE, to Matt Estelle ...
From: CHAMBERS@hacks.arizona.edu (Jeremy Chambers)
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 92 22:59:08 MST
Distribution: world,local
Organization: The Camelot System (Excalibur)
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.05

>Is there anyone out there familiar with MOKE?  I downloaded the 
>programs for the IBM but was unable to run it.  I'm looking for
>the same program for the UNIX system and also a way for the
>version for the IBM to work.  ANy help would be welcomed.  Thanks
>in advance.
>
>Matthew Estelle                    |  "36-24-36, huh.  Only if
>mbe44350@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu          |    she's 5'3"!!"
>Sazan Eyes and Ranma Fan           |        -Sir Mixalot

Make sure all associated files for moke are in a directory called
KANJI. It won't work otherwise, or at least I haven't found a way
to make it work.  Once every thing is in that directory, type 
MOKE to run it.

== Jeremy Chambers@Hacks.Arizona.Edu
From: thalawyn@RM105SERVE.SAS.UPENN.EDU (thalawyn of silverwood)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Honya denwa bango
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:49:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: bloom-be.9204090052.AA21636
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet


   Sasaki-sensei;
   I feel so stupid at having tossed out or recycled the bags I had from
Kinokunya and Asahiya from USA stores since they listed the addresses and
telephone numbers for all the US branhces.  I do have business cards from 2
of them though.

   Asashiya in Elmhurst, Illinois     708-228-9851

   (oops..this second one is the New Jersey Kinokunya..and you said you already
have those...for those who don't it's 201-941-7580...in Edgewater NJ...next to
New York City but at a safe distance ^_^)
   I know there is an Asahiya in LA which you should easily be able to get by
calling directory assistance for that area code (213-555-1212)
   Thalawyn
From: rwk@crl.dec.com (Bob Kerns)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: jiten FAQ?
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:37:15 GMT
Distribution: sci
Organization: Cambridge Research Lab, Digital Equipment Corp.

I think it would be very helpful to people if there were a FAQ
list about various Japanese dictionaries (wa-ei, ei-wa, kan-ei,
kan-wa, wa-wa, picuture-wa-ei, electronic, pocket, or whatever)

Since I'm rather interested in this topic (I own about 15 Japanese
dictionaries) I'll volunteer to coordinate.  In the long run, this
will probably save me time, anyway, since I end up reviewing the
same dictionaries for different people repeatedly.

If you would like to review your favorite (or least favorite)
dictionaries, please send them to me.  Also, if someone has
long-time archives of sci.lang.japan (or the nihongo mailing list),
and wants to retrive earlier messages on the topic, please forward
them to me.  I know that I've posted descriptions of at least ten
different dictionaries to this group at one time or another, and
I'd really like to not have to type that all in again!
Xref: sparky sci.lang.japan:1919 soc.culture.japan:3409
From: yeshwant@gummo.cse.ogi.edu (Yeshwant K Muthusamy)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan,soc.culture.japan
Subject: Request for more JAPANESE voices!
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:14:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.36050
Distribution: world
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute - Computer Science & Engineering


My earlier postings to this newsgroup requesting voices were a major 
success. We received a total of 128 calls in JAPANESE out of which 
89 were evaluated to be usable (i.e. calls that were not hangups).
A BIG THANK YOU to all of you who graciously helped out by calling 
and recording their voices!

In the second phase of our database collection, we are concentrating
on those languages that have less than 100 USABLE calls. We still need
quite a few JAPANESE voices. So if you have not called before, PLEASE DO!

Yeshwant

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                      WE NEED YOUR VOICE!!
                              at
         The Center for Spoken Language Understanding
                   Oregon Graduate Institute


Are you a NATIVE speaker of Japanese?

If so, we need your help in building a multi-language database of
speech recorded over the TELEPHONE. This database is to be used for
my PhD thesis research on automatic language identification.

We have set up a TOLL-FREE line (for the US and Canada) that is open 
round-the-clock:

PLEASE CALL 1-800-441-1077

There is also a local area number for the Portland (Oregon)
metropolitan area and for international sites where the toll-free
number does not work:

PLEASE CALL (503) 690-1012

You will need a touch-tone phone for this call. After a short greeting
in English, a pre-recorded message in JAPANESE will guide you through a 
recording session. Please respond to the prompts in JAPANESE only.
The entire call will take about 5 minutes. The speech that you provide
will be used for research purposes only.

**ALL CALLERS REMAIN ANONYMOUS**. This research is not being funded by 
any agency or company.

If you have any questions or comments, any problems with the call, or 
would just like more information about this project, call Yeshwant 
Muthusamy at (503) 690-1431.

Please pass on this message to others at your site who do not have net
access. Feel free to forward this message to all the relevant mailing 
lists and local newsgroups in your area.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!


-----------------
Yeshwant Muthusamy                               Internet: yeshwant@cse.ogi.edu
Center for Spoken Language Understanding	  
Oregon Graduate Institute of Science and Technology
19600 NW Von Neumann Drive			 
Beaverton, OR 97006-1999			 Vmail: (503) 690-1431
USA
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From: ba05047@BINGVAXU.CC.BINGHAMTON.EDU (Fumiaki Kamiya)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: Nifty Serve
Date: 14 Apr 92 00:14:37 GMT
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet

In article <9204131634.AA01907@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> you write:
>Does anyone know about Nifty Serve in Japan?  I am looking to find out how
>expensive it is, and whether or not it can send mail to the InterNet or
>BitNet here in the US.  I will be in Japan this summer and again in January,
>and there are a few people who I would like to keep in touch with using
>email.  Or is there another service available that I should know about?

Unfortunately, NiftyServe cannot forward/receive mail from
internet sites.  However, there is TWICS in Tokyo that
provides such services.  For details, email to
twics@twics.co.jp.

Fumi
From: James_E._Grigsby.ES_M7@XEROX.COM
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re:  East-West Music mixture
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:51:44 GMT
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet

Some alternative Japanese musical projects:

Shang Shang Typhoon (Epic/Sony ESCB 1090, released 1990)

Tama "Hirone" (Axec AXCR-2, released 1991)

Kina Shoukichi & Champluse "Niraikanai Paradise"
 (Toshiba EMI TOCP-6270, released 1990)

After Dinner "Paradise of Replica" (Zero Records 0-1289, released 1989)

I've been able to find these at stores in Los Angeles, but I'm sure it's more
difficult elsewhere.  If all else fails, write to Hirakawa Shin c/o
Zero Records, 32 Shimogawara-cho, Fukakusa, Fushimi-ku, Kyoto 612.
Hirakawa-san runs a small label/mail order service/shop and knows a lot about
all kinds of alternative music, worldwide.
From: nakano@suncom1.cs.shinshu-u.ac.jp (NAKANO Yasuaki)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: From Jeremy Chambers .. Translation
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:49:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: wakasato.480
Reply-To: nakano@suncom1.cs.shinshu-u.ac.jp (NAKANO Yasuaki)
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Dept. of Information Engineering, Shinshu Univ.,500 wakasato, Nagano, Japan

In article <1992Apr6.061114.2863@arizona.edu> CHAMBERS@hacks.arizona.edu (Jeremy Chambers) writes:
>Ok, what follows below is a translation of part of a brochure.  In
>case anyone is doing similar translation with a mish-mash of
>various technology, this work may save you some time. 

>$B&.%U%#%k%?$"$j(J
>$B&.(JFilter tools
This seems slightly peculiar to me, but I can't judge because of the lack
of the context.

>$B%H%j%"%-%9#1!##5$N%$%s%]!<%H#P#C#3#D$H8@$&;XNa!!$r%H%l!<%9$5$l$?(J
>$B%U%!%$%k$r3+@_!!!!$9$k$?$a$K;H$($k!#(J
>The import PC3D command of Triakis 1.5 may be used to open the
>resultant files.

(1) You must use $B#1!%#5(J in place of $B#1!##5(J. 
   The JIS code of the Lattin period is (2125)H.

(2) The following will be better.
   $B%U%!%$%k$r3+@_$9$k(J -> $B%U%!%$%k$r3+$/(J or $B%U%!%$%k$r%*!<%W%s$9$k(J

(3) 
   "Import PC3D command" may be "$B<h$j9~$_;XNa#P#C#3#D(J".

Yasuaki NAKANO
nakano@wakasato.cs.shinshu-u.ac.jp
From: mikelong@cup.portal.com (Mike - Long)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Wordtank 7200
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:33:53 GMT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Mark,
Thank you for taking the time in your last trip to Japan
to purchase and ship back Wordtanks for us that cannot
so easily travel to Akihabara. :-)
I received my Wordtank 7200 yesterday and it is a
wonderful device. I wish I had one 30 years ago when
I was studying Japanese at UC Berkeley.
Mike
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: TALLEY@AP433101.EMIS.HAC.COM ("TALLEY@AP433101")
Subject: Nifty Serve
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 11:31:26 GMT

*** Reply to note of 04/15/92 11:28
If you're going on Nifty Serve there, you should practice first on
Compu Serve while you are here.  If you do that, you will find a
number of Nifty Serve subscribers on the FLEFO forum (Foreign Language
Education FOrum).  They can answer all your questions, and it is
a frequent topic on the CIS FLEFO forum.
From: herb@pluto.sybase.com (Herb Lison)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Power Japanese
Date: 12 Apr 92 16:13:35 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

Has anyone seen the software package called "Power Japanese"?  I saw
a very impressive demo recently and am considering recommending to
some other people.

Thanks,

Herb Lison
From: jlkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Justin Kim)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: TrueType kanji fonts
Keywords: mac truetype kanji fonts
Date: 12 Apr 92 23:09:42 GMT


	Does anyone know anything about the availability of TrueType
kanji fonts for the Mac?  I have heared rumors here and there (mainly on
the net and in MacWeek) but nothing definite.

	So, if anyone knows about availibility and pricing, please
post or email me what you know.  Thanks.
-- 
------->Justin Kim
---------->jlkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu
------------->Student, Graduate School of International Relations/
---------------->Pacific Studies-University of California, San Diego
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: gt2011a@PRISM.GATECH.EDU ("gt2011a SIMMS,WILLIAM SHELDON")
Subject: Re: info. requ. on Japanese textbook
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 03:44:36 GMT

In article <9204110205.AA08839@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> you write:
>This is a short survey.
>I am going to write a paper to evaluate the Japanese textbooks
>which is presently being employed in the classes. Could you please
>kindly tell me what kind of textbooks you (or around you) are using
>and how do you (or your friends) feel about them.
>Thank you for your cooperation. For replying your assistance, I
>will send you the result of this survey upon request.
>
>Xiao-jie Yang
>Assit. prof. of Japanese
>The Univ. of Calgary
>
>
>****A SHORT SURVEY****
>
>The name of your
>institution:

The Georgia Institute of Technology

>Class size and hours(per-week)
>Level I:

About 14 people in my class for 4 hours per week for 3rd quarter
of 1st year.

>Level II:
>Level III:
>
>
>The title and publisher of the textbook:
>(If you think the textbook is a little rare, please inclose
>details.)
>For level I:

Japanese: The Spoken Language
by Jorden
published by Yale.
Volume 1

>For level II:

Japanese: The Spoken Language
by Jorden
published by Yale.
Volume 2

>For level III:

Japanese: The Spoken Language
by Jorden
published by Yale.
Volume 3

>
>
>Any commonts on those textbooks:

Well, since I am only a first-year student I can only comment on volume
one. I like JSL very much. I think it is a practical approach to learning
Japanese and I have been happy with the progress I have been able to make
with it. The main thing I don't like about it is that it is 100% romaji.
I would prefer that as the kana and kanji are introduced, the book would
also make use of them.


--
william sheldon simms
Georgia Insitute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
...!{akgua,allegra,amd,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!gt-oscar!gt2011a
From: DBEDELL3@UA1VM.BITNET (David Bedell)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: FLEFO
Date: 17 Apr 92 03:10:39 GMT
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet

How can I join or subscribe to FLEFO (Foreign Language Education Forum)?
What is it?

                --David Bedell, U. of Alabama (dbedell3@ua1vm.ua.edu)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne)
Subject: Re: jiten FAQ?
Organization: Computer "Science" Dept, Yale University
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:48:40 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.160218.23648@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>, hartzman@kilroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Les Hartzman) writes:
<
[About dictionaries:]
<I've been to Kinokuniya in L. A., but they only have small
<pocket ones, or ones that are meant for people that are already 
<experienced/native Japanese speakers.

Sadly, this is the fate of those in countries like the US which don't produce
many foreign-language dictionaries.  Japanese publishers understandably prefer
to produce J-E/E-J dictionaries designed for Japanese-speaking students of
English, who constitute a much larger market than English-speaking students
of Japanese.

					--Scott

-- 
Scott Horne                               ...!{harvard,cmcl2,decvax}!yale!horne
horne@cs.Yale.edu      SnailMail:  Box 7196 Yale Station, New Haven, CT   06520
203 436-1848                Residence:  Rm 1848 Silliman College, New Haven, CT
ZANG4 HAN4 YI4 JIA1 / GONG4 JIAN4 ZHONG1HUA2!
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: Dictionaries, my opinions
From: luke@koala.ee.byu.edu (David Luke)
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:44:46
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA

In article <1992Apr12.045505.20991@u.washington.edu> rosenlof@milton.u.washington.edu writes:

>dictionary. The Sanshoudou "Reikai shin kokugo jiten" ISBN 4-385-13317-4
                 ^^^^^^^^^^
>Sanshoudou Shin-meikai kanwa jiten 4th edition. ISBN 4-385-13700-5 Y2300
 ^^^^^^^^^^
Shouldn't these be "Sanseido"?  Unless there's another publisher that I
haven't heard of that uses extremely similar kanji...

--
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|  David Luke                      Nakanu nara, koroshite shimae hototogisu    |
|  luke@wombat.ee.byu.edu           Nakanu nara, nakasete miseyoo hototogisu   |
|                                    Nakanu nara, naku made matoo  hototogisu  |
From: DTWIANOW@SUNRISE.ACS.SYR.EDU (Dan)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: FLEFO
Date: 17 Apr 92 05:35:00 GMT
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet

I believe FLEFO is a forum on CompuServe, and is available to any member
on CompuServe for the cost of connect time.  I used to go there when I still
belonged to CompuServe.

There is a nice JAPAN forum on GEnie, which you can participate in for $5
a month flat rate, provided you use it between 6pm and 8am.  I hang out
there all the time.  There is even a JIS kanji area!

Dan Tinianow
From: mgilula@MIASUN.MED.MIAMI.EDU (Marshall Gilula)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: Work & Study in Japan
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:18:24 GMT
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet

I just returned from Tokyo....still jet-laggy...... :-[

but the stories aboutthe hundreds of Iranian men in their 20s and 30s
who hang out in Ueno Park.  I have heard that flights between Teheran and Tokyo
are booked with Iranians coming to Japan for illegal work.

company prefers
illegal foreign workers to Japanese for day labor on construction jobs, because
the government requires that Japanese day laborers get a wage sufficient to pay
for a place for them to live.  There is, of course, no such requirement for
illegal immigrants.  In my friend`s opinion, this has increased the ranks of
homeless among Japanese at the margin.
------------------------------------------

All of the above is TRUE...and is a dramatic change for the usually
 well-controlled
country.  At least there are no Americans "over there" fighting the Iranians for
 the
menial and dangerous jobs.  But the dangers in Tokyo at night have already
 allegedly
increased 1000$

I meant 1000%.....but maybe the $   IS INDEED the reason as explained by my
Japanese friends.

-73-
Marshall Gilula
From: halldors@garlic.cs.titech.ac.jp (Magnus M. Halldorsson)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: Japan-USA
Date: 11 Apr 92 03:21:31 GMT
	<1992Apr10.224819.22120@gibdo.engr.washington.edu>
Organization: Dept. of Computer Sci, Tokyo Inst. of Tech., Japan


   In article <3361@pacificrand.org> edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall) writes:
   >Japanese investors have gotten Americans upset because (choose 1 or more):
   >	1) They tend to buy highly-visible "trophy" properties;
   >	2) There was a large upswing in Japanese investment late in
   >	   the 1980's (largely reversed in the early 1990's);
   >	3) Japanese aren't white, don't speak English (much), and have
   >	   an "exotic" national culture.

   >Unfortunately, (3) is all too often the reason why (1) and (2) get
   >noticed.

But why shouldn't (3) -- the gigantic difference in cultural attitudes
-- be a major issue? Attacking other nations because they do thing
differently is not a nice thing to do; being wary when the same
nations start affecting your own internal affairs significantly is a
different story. 

The Japanese have a different attitudes towards minorities, women,
education, social rankings, as well as business ethics and strategies,
to name a few important topics. While Brits, Canadians, Dutch, or any
other major western investors naturally differ in various respect from
Americans, such differences can only be deemed minor with respect to
the Japanese-American differences.

When foreigners buy into local properties they naturally bring along
with them their cultural attitudes, which, while often adapted to
local conditions, are likely to affect their environment. I find it
very natural if Americans are wary of Japanese investment precisely
for that very reason. 

A case in point I would like to mention a film that was to be made by
Columbia pictures last year, as reported by Wall Street Journal. It
briefly touched on the sumo sport in Japan, and while the portrayal
was not very unfavorable, it was not appreciated by the Sumo
Association. As a result, the newspaper suggested, the film was canned
by Columbia's authorities at the Sony headquarters in Tokyo.

I only hope that people quit crying "racism" whenever these legitimate
concerns are raised.

Magnus M. Halldorsson
JAIST Hokuriku