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From: Q10106@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Kent Norman)
Subject: when you find out- let me know
Organization: Motorola
Date: 10 Sep 1992 12:00:28 CDT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: g89s9112@hippo.ru.ac.za (Dirk Sturzebecher)
Subject: help getting started (FAQ ??)
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Distribution: global
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 10:20:17 GMT

Hi,
I will be leaving university at the end of this year. I do not want to
lose e-mail connection to internet. What does one need to start with.
What programs are in the public domain. How easy is it to get a host for
your uucp dial up ?

Any help wellcome

Cheers, Dirk
When you find out, please let me know.  The closest I have come
is hearing that the FIDONET BBS network can hit the internet.
Wish you well
Kent Norman
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From: cahuja@twerp.ease.arco.com (Chander Ahuja)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: uux failing problems
Keywords: uux
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:31:56 GMT
Reply-To: cahuja@twerp.ease.arco.com (Chander Ahuja)
Distribution: world
Organization: Atlantic Richfield Company (EASE group), Dallas , TX


the environment - 
my machine - Tatung SS2 clone running Solaris 1.0, HDB uucp 
my feed - Sun 4/110 running SunOS 4.1.? HDB uucp
my dest - Dec Ultrix 4.1, Version 2.0 uucp

When i try something like:

uux feed!uux (dest!uusend) ((/some/public-dir/filename)) ((dest!my-machine!~/))

it goes out and fails on the 'feed' machine (never gets to dest) with:

File access/permission denied
   uux dest!uusend (.....) (....)
 from my-machine!my-machine!my-name

It seems like the feed machine is seeing  "my-machine!my-machine!my-name" <<note the double up of the machine name>> and refusing to let it execute "uux".

The feed machine has:

logname=uuwhatever machine=my-machine commands=all sendfiles=yes request=yes

Does any one have any pointers as to what is happenning....we have narrowed it
down to the 'feed' machine being the problem & probably something to do with 
the double-double machine names but dont know what it is....

I can send mail (i.e.  mail feed!dest!some-user) works just fine, but just
cant send it any commands for uux to execute....

Thanks in advance.

-chander
cahuja@ease.arco.com



Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp,comp.mail.sendmail
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: smail3 problems
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 21:56:50 GMT

I have problems with undeliverable email being mailed
back to the local account used for login verses the original 
sender.

For example, rde logs in as rde -- in passwd he get the same
uid and gid as uucp 

when mail is returned by uucp to rde as undeliverable, it is
send to the local user rde instead of using uux to sent it
to rde!<user> -- so the message is saved on my machine in 
/usr/mail/rde -- when like I said it should be sent via uux
to the site rde

I am (have been) using HAVE=HDB_UUCP -- and yes, I have the
grade info in EDITME included in my /etc/uucp/Grades

The OS is SVR4 4.0.


-- 
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keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: elitman@wam.umd.edu (Eric A. Litman)
Subject: Assigning incoming mail to an MX site
Organization: U. of Maryland, College Park.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:28:51 GMT

I have recently registered and received a domainname 'nxstep.com' which I
would like to use for incoming/outgoing mail. Until now, I have been using
a relay machine to forward my mail. People have been sending mail to an
account I have on a local system (elitman@wam.umd.edu) and I have had the
uucp address to which the incoming mail should be forwarded in the .forward
file for that account (phenom!elitman@uu.american.edu). On uu.american.edu
there is an entry in the aliases database for each of the users on phenom, so 
that all incoming mail will be forwarded to phenom.

I have been told that the best thing to do would be to set up a wildcard MX
record for nxstep.com, and have the sendmail.cf file on uu.american.edu
translate all incoming mail for user@nxstep.com to !phenom!user.

Is this the right way to do this? Is there a more efficient method? If not,
any help on how to implement this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: oneworld!charles (Charles W. Cooper II)
Subject: Re: FAX and BBS in the SAME line. 
Reply-To: charles@oneworld.wa.com
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 05:17:48 GMT

Denny Chuang writes
> 	Help!    Anyone know how to run a BBS and FAX machine using
> the FAX/MODEM like PM14400FXSA or other FAX modems?
> 
> This is my SECOND request!  
> --
>    The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
>      North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
>         Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
>            internet:  bbs.oit.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80

I use a "Fax switch".  The way it works is: the modem answers the phone and  
emits the high pitched tone, If the incomming call is a fax, the caller will  
have either already pushed the "send" button or the tone from the answering  
modem will prompt him to push the "send" button.  Since the answering modem  
doesn't recognize fax tones, it will sit there for about 10 seconds until the  
fax switch changes to the fax machine which is set up for autoanswer.  Voila! A  
fax.  simularly, if the incomming call had been a modem call the modem would  
answer it before the fax switch kicked in.

Hope this helps....
From: overlord@megalith.miami.fl.us (Carlos Amezaga [POSTMASTER])
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: when you find out- let me know
Keywords: 
Distribution: world
Date: 12 Sep 92 15:18:17 EST
Organization: Megalith Mail & News Server

Quoted from <...unknown> by esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us (Eric S Johansson):
> Don't forget that there are packages for Atari ST and Amiga machines
> as well.  The best ST version is HERMES, a shareware package from
> Germany and I think the Amiga version can be found on something
> called "fish disks"(?)  if there is an interest, I can do
> further research. 
> 

	The Amiga Version is called UUCP of all things. :-)  The latest
version is 1.16D and was maintained until recently by Matt Dillon.  To
find out a bit more about it you can join Alt.Sys.Amiga.Uucp where we
discuss this and other things related to UUCP in general.  

	I am currently running this package as well as AmigaElm and Tnews
so I can access my Mail and News. It is not to difficult to use.  The
feed is another matter.

Carlos
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%    __     %  UUCP:  overlord@megalith.miami.fl.us  % I Tried MS-DOS Once %
% __///     %  Fido:  1:135/92                       % But Didn't Inhale.  %
% \\//Amiga %  GEnie: C.Amezaga                      %        --D.Atkins-- %
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

	I live in Miami, FL which is close to the Cutler Ridge and
Homestead areas.  If you wish to contact someone you have been unable to
reach because of Hurricane Andrew send E-mail to
postmaster@megalith.miami.fl.us and I will try my best to reach them for
you.  Folks out there who are able, please donate to the American Red Cross
in anyway you can.  They are running low in Funds and this Hurricane is
only further draining their resoources.  There are many people here who
are in need of many common items.  Thank you and God Bless.
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp,comp.mail.sendmail
From: les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: smail3 problems
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:32:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.231216.23361@analsyn.gts.org> anton@analsyn.gts.org (Anton J Aylward) writes:
>larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
>: I have problems with undeliverable email being mailed
>: back to the local account used for login verses the original 
>: sender.

>Yes, me too, exactly this problem.  Same OS.
>Only each UUCP account has a separate ID, same group.
>/var/mail is filling up with files that have names corresponding to the
>uucp login names, u_xyz etc.

Do you perhaps have trusted or trusted_group enabled such that the
jobs uuxed from these machines aren't allowed to specify where
they are from?  Try putting -trusted and -trusted_groups in the config
file or fix the lists to include all the uucp logins.

Les Mikesell
  les@chinet.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: *Incoming* aliases on UUPC?
Distribution: world
Organization: Cuddlehogs Anonymous
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:33:22 +0000

I don't know if it never worked or if I broke something, but I've never
been able to send mail to any aliases at my site (running UUPC) from
offsite.  I thought the incoming mail would look at the aliases.txt file
for whoever did the delivery (in this case Postmaster).  If I send
mail locally from postmaster it goes through the aliases OK.  Shouldn't
the rmail behaviour be the same whether internal or external? Any clues?

Graham
From: esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us (Eric S Johansson)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Distribution: world
Organization: gators 'r us
Subject: Re: when you find out- let me know
Reply-To: esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:48:28 -0500

In <overlord.0akr@megalith.miami.fl.us>, Carlos Amezaga [POSTMASTER] writes:
 [ stuff about amiga uucp ]

I can't remember if there is a uucp supplier FAQ and if not, maybe someone 
could start building one.  If folks are willing to wait forever and a day 
for me to write an UUCP supplier FAQ, I'll collect and repackage the 
information on dos/mac/amiga/st/os9/you-name-it uucp, mail, and news 
packages.  I just need the information mailed to me at the address in my 
signature below (I didn't capture the latest go-around on DOS uucp)

--- eric
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: cambler@zeus.calpoly.edu (Christopher J. Ambler, Phish)
Subject: FSUUCP Bug Identified
Organization: Fantasy, Incorporated: Reality None of Our Business.
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1992 01:04:08 GMT

To FSUUCP Users:

  A bug in 1.3r1 which causes any applications that modify the active
  file to drop entries has been identified. A fix will be available
  within a week.

  Just a note to let you all know that I'm aware of it and on the problem.

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From: ian@airs.com (Ian Lance Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Taylor UUCP on SunOS 4.1.2?
Date: 7 Sep 92 21:33:40 GMT

tls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot Simon) writes:

>Has onyone gotten this combination (Taylor
>1.03, SunOS 4.1.2, Z patch) to work reliably?

I made a bad assumption in my code, namely that signal handlers
installed with sigaction would always cause system calls to be
interrupted if a signal is received.  The sigaction function was
created by POSIX.1, and POSIX.1 3.3.1.4 (Signal Effects on Other
Functions) says:

``If the signal-catching function executes a return, the behavior of
  the interrupted function shall be as described individually for that
  function.''

The behaviour described for read has a few different cases, but none
of them permit read to be restarted after an interrupt occurs.

Therefore I believe that SunOS 4.1 is not POSIX-conformant.  The same
argument applies to Linux.

Fortunately, the work around for both systems is simple; apply the
following patch:

*** code/uucp-archive/uucp-1.03/sys1.unx	Tue Apr  7 01:05:27 1992
--- sys1.unx	Tue Jun 16 17:07:04 1992
***************
*** 973,979 ****
--- 973,983 ----
  
    s.sa_handler = pfn;
    sigemptyset (&s.sa_mask);
+ #ifdef SA_INTERRUPT
+   s.sa_flags = SA_INTERRUPT;
+ #else
    s.sa_flags = 0;
+ #endif
  
    if (sigaction (isig, &s, (struct sigaction *) NULL) != 0)
      ulog (LOG_FATAL, "sigaction (%d): %s", isig, strerror (errno));

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: jester@crash.cts.com (Ken Bibb)
Subject: Re: when you find out- let me know
Date: 11 Sep 92 05:53:46 GMT

In <1992Sep10.171932.20839@schbbs.mot.com> Q10106@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Kent Norman) writes:

>------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
>Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
>Subject: help getting started (FAQ ??)
>Message-ID: <1992Sep7.102017.22355@hippo.ru.ac.za>
>Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
>Distribution: global
>Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 10:20:17 GMT

This should be "world"
>Lines: 14


>Hi,
>I will be leaving university at the end of this year. I do not want to
>lose e-mail connection to internet. What does one need to start with.
>What programs are in the public domain. How easy is it to get a host for
>your uucp dial up ?

Depends on the country your in.  Minimum setup requires a computer,
modem, uucp package (uucico/mail/news), and a feed.  Some countries have
restrictions on feeds, others on modems.

The most common solutions are unix-based, but there are also DOS and
MAC uucp implementations available via the Internet.  DOS Versions include
fsuucp and taylor uucp; Mac Versions include Gnuucp and uupc (according
to the O'Reilly "Managing UUCP and Usenet" book which should be required
for anyone setting up uucp).

>Any help wellcome

>Cheers, Dirk
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>When you find out, please let me know.  The closest I have come
>is hearing that the FIDONET BBS network can hit the internet.
>Wish you well
>Kent Norman

Waffle BBS also hits the Internet.  There are a number of other BBS
programs which offer uucp doors.
--
Ken			"You're right about the moon
jester@crash.cts.com	 but wrong about the stars"--J. Browne
ucsd!crash!jester
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: cambler@zeus.calpoly.edu (Christopher J. Ambler, Phish)
Subject: Re: Any reommendations for MS-DOS uucp?
Keywords: MSDOS MS-DOS uucp
Organization: Fantasy, Incorporated: Reality None of Our Business.
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 20:29:38 GMT

thigpen@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Keith Thigpen) recently informed us:
>Hi netters.
>
>One of the guys here at work uses FSUUCP, but he uses 1.2 'cause apparently
>1.3 doesn't run well in unattended mode. Is this correct? Is 1.3 fairly
>clean? (bugwise).

It seems that a lot of people miss the -a option. UUCICO and UUXQT will
run without human intervention if you supply the -a argument (-a for
automatic).

-- 
If you insist upon living in a  | cambler@zeus.calpoly.edu | Fubar Systems BBS
dream, you may be taken as mad. |                          | (805) 54-FUBAR
  I like my dream.              | Because all you of       | 3/12/24, MNP5, 8N1
Then you *are* mad!             | Earth are IDIOTS!!       | FSBBS 2/FSUUCP 1.3
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From:  alex@icm.msk.su (Black One)
Subject: Re: UUCP 'G' protocol packet size
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 12:39:57 GMT
Reply-To: alex@icm.msk.su
Organization: Informational Center "MATHEMATICS"

	Hi !

In article <1079@bazooka.amb.org> ti@bazooka.amb.org writes:
> I have been playing around with the UUCP 'G' protocol by increasing
> my uucico's supported window size from 3 to 7.  This yielded a nice
> ~20% boost in throughput when transferring compressed news batches.
> This appears to have no ill effects as far as compatibility with other
> systems go.
.......
> this to something like 4096 bytes?  Do I run the risk of making my
> uucico incompatible with other systems?
  
   Well, I tryed to change the packet size in my own UUCICO, and got a
LOT of NAKs while talking with my main host. The most funny thing is
that even when I tryed to send 32 byte packets on last bytes of a file,
I received NAKs too.
   Some versions of UUCICO's seems to expect different packet lengths,
as mine do, but never sends such packets. In addition most of them
always sends the INITB packet with K=1 (64 byte packets).
   So, you can change the packet size, but anyway the remote system will
send you an INITB with k=1, and you wouldn't be able to increase the packet
lenght.

   About the boost. I tryed to use larger packets between two hardwired
machines, and the boost was 100% using 1K packets instead of 64 byte packets.

   Ian Taylor in his "UUCP Internals Frequently Asked Questions" posted
26 Apr 1992 wrote that there is a 'G' (uppercase) protocol, that allows
different packet size, receive window size more than 1 and so on, but I
never meet a host talking 'G' protocol in Russia.
   Does anybody use the 'G' protocol out there?
							Regards
						       Alex Kluev
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"There's no Dark Side on the Moon Realy"


Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp,mail.sendmail,comp.mail.misc
From: anton@analsyn.gts.org (Anton J Aylward)
Subject: Re: smail3 returning undeliverable email
Organization: ASCI: UNIX Database and Communications
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 20:34:47 GMT

larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
: tron@Veritas.COM (Ronald S. Karr) writes:
: 
: >In article <Bu15o4.2uo@gator.rn.com> larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
: >>We are running smail3 release 26 (I think) here under SVR4 4.0
: >>For example, mail comes in from the site bluemoon for the site
: >>ka3ovk.  If ka3ovk doesn't pick up his email, I will get messages
: >>for the user bluemoon on this machine (in /usr/mail/bluemoon) that
: >>the email for ka3ovk is undeliverable - and that it will continue
: >>to try to deliver this traffic.
: 
: >This sounds like uux is being called without "-a <sender>", so that
: >mail is being returned to the user that invoked smail, which was
: >"bluemoon".  I suggest that you recompile smail with the line:
: 
: >	HAVE=HDB_UUCP
: 
: nope, this is enabled.  We run SVR4 4.0 and likewise we have
: included the sample grades from EDITME in our /etc/uucp/Grades
: file

Samed problem.
same version
same setup as Larry describes.
--
Anton J Aylward
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp,mail.sendmail,comp.mail.misc
From: alan@ernest.dseg.ti.com (Alan Edmonds)
Subject: smail3 returning undeliverable email - FIXED!
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc. - Plano, Tx
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:01:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.203447.7936@analsyn.gts.org> anton@analsyn.gts.org (Anton J Aylward) writes:
>larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
>: tron@Veritas.COM (Ronald S. Karr) writes:
>: 
>: >In article <Bu15o4.2uo@gator.rn.com> larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
>: >>We are running smail3 release 26 (I think) here under SVR4 4.0
>: >>For example, mail comes in from the site bluemoon for the site
>: >>ka3ovk.  If ka3ovk doesn't pick up his email, I will get messages
>: >>for the user bluemoon on this machine (in /usr/mail/bluemoon) that
>: >>the email for ka3ovk is undeliverable - and that it will continue
>: >>to try to deliver this traffic.
>: 
>: >This sounds like uux is being called without "-a <sender>", so that
>: >mail is being returned to the user that invoked smail, which was
>: >"bluemoon".  I suggest that you recompile smail with the line:
>: 
>: >	HAVE=HDB_UUCP
>: 
>: nope, this is enabled.  We run SVR4 4.0 and likewise we have
>: included the sample grades from EDITME in our /etc/uucp/Grades
>: file
>
>Samed problem.
>same version
>same setup as Larry describes.

If you recompile smail3 with HDB_UUCP defined, you get the -a
flag for the built in transports.
But,  if you use a seperate transports file to override the 
compiled in transports, you have to update the transports file
by hand.

Just add the -a$sender to the uux lines in transports file in the 
smail config directory.  What Ronald S. Karr said is correct; uux
may be missing the -a flag. 

This works for me; I hope it works for you.

Good luck,
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp,mail.sendmail,comp.mail.misc
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: smail3 returning undeliverable email
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 15:22:40 GMT

tron@Veritas.COM (Ronald S. Karr) writes:

>In article <Bu15o4.2uo@gator.rn.com> larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
>>We are running smail3 release 26 (I think) here under SVR4 4.0
>>For example, mail comes in from the site bluemoon for the site
>>ka3ovk.  If ka3ovk doesn't pick up his email, I will get messages
>>for the user bluemoon on this machine (in /usr/mail/bluemoon) that
>>the email for ka3ovk is undeliverable - and that it will continue
>>to try to deliver this traffic.

>This sounds like uux is being called without "-a <sender>", so that
>mail is being returned to the user that invoked smail, which was
>"bluemoon".  I suggest that you recompile smail with the line:

>	HAVE=HDB_UUCP

nope, this is enabled.  We run SVR4 4.0 and likewise we have
included the sample grades from EDITME in our /etc/uucp/Grades
file

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keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
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From: tron@Veritas.COM (Ronald S. Karr)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp,mail.sendmail,comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: smail3 returning undeliverable email
Date: 5 Sep 92 01:51:32 GMT
Organization: VERITAS Software

In article <Bu15o4.2uo@gator.rn.com> larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
>We are running smail3 release 26 (I think) here under SVR4 4.0
>For example, mail comes in from the site bluemoon for the site
>ka3ovk.  If ka3ovk doesn't pick up his email, I will get messages
>for the user bluemoon on this machine (in /usr/mail/bluemoon) that
>the email for ka3ovk is undeliverable - and that it will continue
>to try to deliver this traffic.

This sounds like uux is being called without "-a <sender>", so that
mail is being returned to the user that invoked smail, which was
"bluemoon".  I suggest that you recompile smail with the line:

	HAVE=HDB_UUCP

in the conf/EDITME file.  This will cause smail to use the -a flag
to indicate the real message sender, so that uucp-generated bounce
messages will be sent to the real message sender.  However, look
at the HAVE section in the EDITME file for changes that you will
need to make in the /etc/uucp/Grades file for SVR4.0.
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      tron@veritas.com		UUCPnet:  {apple,pyramid}!veritas!tron