From: murraysd@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Stephen D Murray)
Newsgroups: sci.skeptic
Subject: Existence of God
Summary: just an opinion
Date: 4 Sep 92 10:50:03 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.



I only found this group because I was looking for some info on brainwashing,
but while I'm here I thought I'd stick in my two pennies worth into the debate
of whether or not GOD is up there .

This is just my opinion, it's not intended to cause any offence and if it does,
I'm sorry.


Well, I think there are several major problems to the existence of God:-

1. The number 666. If you examine it, in roman numerals it consists of 
one of each letter up to D(500)- it's DCLXVI. Seems to me like the romans
just decided that 111111 was bad news because of all the ones and it got
translated into 666 in arabic numerals. But wait a minute- isn't this number
supposed to pre-date the roman numeral system, and it's geographical influence
at least? Hmmmm.....

2. Uranium 235. So God made the world did he? Well why did He make U235 
fissionable? (it's apparently the only nucleus that can cause the big bang.
There may be others, but if so they're in the same boat as far as this question
's concerned.) 
  Did God look at the forthcoming nuclear explosions and see that they were
good? Did he just have an off day and do it for a laugh? Couldn't he have 
left it out or made it not so unstable that it can fission? Hmmmm.....

3. Hell. OK, eternal burning for well, rather a long time is a bit of a deterrent to not doing as He says, but it's a bit of a bummer for all those poor sods
who made a couple of wee transgresses just before Jesus turned up , innit?
I mean, there's this guy, he's good all his life and one day he succumbs
to keeping a wee bit of dosh from the temple collection for a pint down the
local or something. Bang, hellfire he's had it. He burns and burns. Then along
comes Jesus and pardons some guy before God who's spent his entire life
killing and maiming and then on his death bed he realises that being nice to
people isn't such a bad idea after all. Off to heaven he goes. I mean,
it's a bit of a bummer for the first gut(sorry, guy), isn't it? If God's really going
to exist He just can't be such a bad planner-ahead. It's just not on.
Then there's the matter of hell- if people don't do as God tells them, then 
who's fault is it? If God's been about since before man, and is all-powerful,
then he MUST have known exactly what was going to happen all along;
since everything that happens is an inevitable consequence of everything that
has happened before,(including man's and God's thoughts and actions), God 
could have foreseen each and every 'sin'  man was ever going to make.
So God knows what's going to happen, does nothing about it and then sends man
to hell, even though he knew what was going to happen, could have prevented
it and didn't bother. What a nasty piece of work.... I mean if that's what
God gets up to, who needs Satan? I mean, he's on the dole, isn't he?

 I guess a lot of these things are debatable- the trouble with such debates
is that they go on, and on, and on, and on, and on,and.....sorry, but they do.
At the end of the day, you just believe what you think is right and get on
with your life. I personally don't think you can ever be really sure about
anything, but then that's just my opinion. The problem is when people give up
trying to convince people and try to convert them (i.e. brainwash them).
I have encountered some very frightening instances of this- please read my
other post if you know anything about  brainwashing.

      Anyway, that's my preaching over. If you agree with me, tell me. If you
think I'm talking through my posterior, or suffering from a bad case of
anal defenestration , well say so but please be nice about it.
 
        'A black hole is what happens when God divides the universe by zero'

-(stolen signature from someone or other.)


             Stephen D Murray

            <murraysd@dcs.gla.ac.uk>

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