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From: jjungbau@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Subject: Are you becoming a Bears fan?  (was Re: Don't do it!)
Organization: Washington State University, Pullman
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 03:10:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.144117.1300@cs.wisc.edu> larrym@ssec.wisc.edu (Larry McGuire ) writes:
>In article <1992Dec22.044118.7409@serval.net.wsu.edu>, jjungbau@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer) writes:

>|> Please tell me you haven't already begun the conversion.  Quick, just to be
>|> on the safe side, check for symptoms.  Has your Polish sausage intake increased
>|> significantly over the past week?  Have you found yourself pausing next to the
>|> Ditka posters in the mall just a little bit longer than usual?  I hope for
>|> your sake that the answer is no.
>|> 
>
>Some other symptoms that require immediate attention:
>
>-  Removing your favorite brand of beer from the frifge and replacing it 
>   with Old Style
>
>-  Actually being able to understand Butkus' commentary during the game.
>
>-  Pulling maps of Door county/No. Wisconsin out and saying "Honey, were should
>   we go this weekend?"
>
>-  Calling the Chamber of Commerce in Platville and asking for names of 4 star 
>   hotels with openings this August.

Hey, this is kind of fun.  Anyone else have any contributions to the list:
"You know you're becoming a Bears fan when..."?  You know, I'm really starting
to like you Packer fans.  I guess ripping the Bears and their fans can bring
us closer together.  I think I can accept Packers fans much more easily   
because although they're extremely loyal, they don't seem nearly as arrogant
or obnoxious as Bears fans.  I just think of Pack fans as these huddled masses
all bundled up in green and gold, cheering to the bitter end in 40-below 
weather for their beloved Pack.  But Bears fans provoke images of big loud-
mouthed tailgating know-it-alls who rant and rave about their team, refuse to
acknowledge any other team as being as worthy of God's love as theirs, and
further, refusing to admit that their coach is nothing more than a screaming
loon whose act has worn thin.  Oh well, enough generalizations for now.

Jim
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From: awhitton@bnr.ca (Alan Whitton)
Subject: Re: For New York Giants Fans
Reply-To: awhitton@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:57:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.182741.7838@walter.bellcore.com>, cpg@caribbean.bellcore.com (Curt Goedde) writes:
|> In article <28893@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, tobias@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Tobias) writes:
|> |>     This may sound like heresy, but how about Tom Landry? I admit he
|> |> was misguided for a few years by stooping so low as to be affiliated
|> |> with the Cowpies, but heck, he is a former N.Y. Giant. That should count
|> |> for something! Don't bitch about his age. He couldn't be older than
|> |> Marv Levy of the Bills.
|> 
|>     Please lets not use Marv Levy as a gauge for determining the next coach!
|>     How about Buddy?
|> 
It would make for interesting post-game press conferences, Buddy against
the N.Y. media... Let's not forget Ron Meyer :-) he's still unemployed
also (and hopefully he'll stay that way).

Christmas Cheers,
Alan
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From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Det/SF rehash, Niner prospects
Date: 29 Dec 1992 21:36:19 GMT
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In article <1992Dec29.210800.10793@pony.Ingres.COM> daveb@lotus (Dave Brower, DBMS hack, [510] 748-3418) writes:

 >The monster nightmare for SF is a mirror of 80/81.  Dallas shocks SF
 >for the NFC crown, Montana is gone and Young's ego never recovers.
 >Eddie throws in the towel after a few more years of futility, and the

I would give up a win in the Superbowl just to pay SF back for the 
81 game, it would really be sweet to do it in the last 52 seconds.


>Windows/NT - the VMS of the 90s
>

Wrong BZZZZT

Try Digital Alpha-AXP
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: For New York Giants & 49er Fans
Date: 29 Dec 92 21:19:06 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Dec29.204147.9932@pony.Ingres.COM> daveb@lotus (Dave Brower, DBMS hack, [510] 748-3418) writes:
>
>
>How about trading for Montana?  He'll be available, and might give the
>Ignats time to develop someone younger.  Do the Giants have any[thing|one]
>the Niners would want in return?
>
>-dB
>
>-- 
>Windows/NT - the VMS of the 90s

The Niners will never go for this... trading to a team that cost them
2 shots at the Super Bowl!  That'd be like trading him to the (gasp!) Saints.

The GIANTS have many players that the Niners
would want but the Niner organizationjust waits until they become Plan B
types and then get them (Odessa Turner, Jim Burt, etc.).

satish nair
ray is gone!

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From: horn@tegan.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark Horn)
Subject: Re: PACKERS - REDSKINS WILDCARD CHANCES
Organization: NASA Johnson Space Center
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:11:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.154650.23903@linus.mitre.org> lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) writes:

[ ..stuff deleted.. ]

>=THREE OR MORE CLUBS TIEBREAKING RULES
>
>=1. Head-to-head sweep (applicable only if one club has defeated
>=each of the otners, or if one club has lost to each of the others).
>
>Not applicable.

Why not?  Philly lost to the Skins and the Pack.  One team lost to each of the
others.  Seems like the rule applies to me, but the question is how is it
applied?  Packers are 1-0 against Skins and Eagles.  Eagles are 1-2, and Skins
are 1-1.  Why aren't the Eagles eliminated in this scenario?  I'd hate to
think the Transitivity rule is applied: Packers beat the Eagles.  Eagles Beat
the Skins.  Therefore ...

[ ... ]

>=3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
>
>Not applicable -- The Giants were the only team that played all three.

Minnesota played all three, too.

GO PACKERS - Against Minnesota?  Playoff hopes aside, what other motivation
             do you need?
GO RAIDERS - Come on Art, rally that team!
GO GIANTS  - Ray, you need to go out in a bang!

- sparkie
horn@mickey.jsc.nasa.gov

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From: bill@neocad.com (Bill Bentley)
Subject: Re: Dan Reeves is gone!
Organization: NeoCAD, Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 14:30:21 GMT

>>Atlanta?

>Yup.  Good system and a lot of talent for him to work with.

This may be true, but I think the first time Sanders does a dance with
his team down 35-7 (like he did in the game against Buffalo) Reeves would
have a heart attack. Reeves is a class act and will not stand for that
kind of behavior. I think he will go to either Phoenix or Seattle.

Bill B.
From: markl@spuddy.uucp (Mark Liversedge)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Worldwide support for Saints
Date: 19 Dec 92 12:52:08 GMT
Organization: Spuddy's Public Usenet Domain

In article <1992Dec16.144333.12565@aisb.ed.ac.uk> aaw@cstr.ed.ac.uk (Alan Wrench) writes:
>Yup Saints fans come out of the global closet.
>
>Just subscribed to this group half way through the season. It gives me faster
>coverage of the games than I can get any other way. Otherwise we get to see
>highlights of 2 or 3 Sunday games played in central or eastern time zones
>transmitted 8.30-10pm GMT 3.30-5pm Eastern.
>
>Main coverage this sunday will be the Saints Bills game. Should be an exciting
>game. 
BZZT! Wrong. They are covering the Bloody Skins-Eagles.
Here in the UK, footbal coverage really stinks!
We have sweet FA AFC. It's basically the NFC east show.
They have promised us Bills *three* times this season and each time we
end up seeing the bloody NFC East. Bastards! I bloody hate the Redskins!
In fact I have gotten to a stage where I hate the NFC EAST!

GO GREEN BAY! GO BILLLLLLLLLSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
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From: punjabi@leland.Stanford.EDU (sanjeev punjabi)
Subject: Playoff question regarding Niners-Saints
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 05:46:03 GMT


Assuming the Saints end up with the best record among NFC wildcard teams, is
there any scenario in which they could play at Candlestick in the second round
of the playoffs?
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From: Larry Simmons (larry@aecom.yu.edu)
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Subject: Re: For New York Giants Fans
Date: 29 Dec 92 17:58:17 GMT
Organization: Albert Einstein College of Medicine

In article <1992Dec22.150211.1886@bcars6a8.bnr.ca> (Alan Whitton) writes:
>
>The question is who should GO on the Giants?
>
>       Ray :       Sorry Ray, you just couldn't win, and I sympathize, but
>                   you shoulda gone to law school :-(

The players have no respect for Handley and second-guess his plans. Whether he
is a good coach or not is no longer the problem. The players are his problem.

>       Hostetler:  Please retire before your bell is rung permanently. Anyone
>                   who has had that many concussions, is not in great shape.

It looks like it's time for a new QB. Not Simms, Not Hoss. Graham looked good
enough to wonder if they made a mistake on Brown. But it's still too early.

>Any other comments?

How about adding Fassel to the list. Two years ago I asked the net if anyone
ever heard of this guy. And the only response I got was from the Univ. of Utah
(where Fassel was the head coach) and they were thrilled he was leaving.
Apparently, before Fassel they had a winning team which he destroyed over the
five years there.
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:28:48 -0500 
From: John Wayne Weber <jw5f+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Neil O'Donnel/Eric Green

> Does anyone know his status??  What about Eric Green??

O'Donnell will play against the Browns, his leg was only cracked, not broken.

Eric Green has served his suspension and eligible to play on Sunday. 
Coach Cowher has not said whether the Steelers will activate and use him
on Sunday, but most likely they will.

j w w
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From: eric@abode.ttank.com (Eric C. Bennett)
Subject: Re: SKINS RULE
Organization: Abode Computer Systems
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 05:56:37 GMT

In article <1992Dec27.000608.12553@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> asj4j@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (JonaX) writes:
>RYPIEN TO  N O B O D Y!!!!   Ronnie Lott with the deflection and 
>a kick in the butt to the Redskins.   Maybe next year --- NOT!
>From the Superbowl to ....nothing...not even the playoffs...maybe
>even a loss to the Raiders!

Don't be too hasty. Green Bay still has to beat the Vikings tomorrow (or the
Eagles have to lose). I really, really hope the Packers win. I don't expect
much from them in the playoffs, but I like to see the teams there that haven't
been in a while.

Any Redskin fans out there want to comment about how come the Redskins seem to
follow a Super Bowl winning season by a season that has them not making the
playoffs at all? Of course that has yet to be determined for this year, but
there is a good chance it will and you can't say that the Redskins have played
like a defending Super Bowl champ.

Eric

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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
Subject: Re: Bills a Bust? (WAR is HELL)
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 14:40:48 GMT

In article <C00M24.8vz@acsu.buffalo.edu> carrato@acsu.buffalo.edu (Michael Carrato) writes:
>jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) writes:
>
>> (etc. etc. we've seen it 16 times so why repeat it?)
>
>John's favorite teams:
>
>1) Niners (of course)
>2) Whoever plays the Bills
>
>Does that week 2 loss still bother you, John? Lighten up! Your 
>Niners will probably romp while the only team who has their number
>will drown in a pool of injuries. Looks like an easy ride to the
>championship for your beloved team now that the Bills are decimated...
>
>Mike C

Say Mike, do you want the truth? Anyone is bothered by a loss.
Would it had bothered you if the Bills were to have loss the
game? Point of fact is the Niners are 14-2, the best record
in the NFL. With a backup QB like Montana, and after last
nights performance, do you give the Niners a chance. YES!
I thought so. Tell me, does Kelly's replacement give you 
confidence. NOT! Yes, an easy ride, but not because they
backed into it. The Bills had their chances in the season
and they didn't quite muster it. At least the FISH were
able to claim the AFC EAST TITLE! Does that bother you?
YES! I thought so. If it doesn't't bother you than I am loss
for words. Chow! NINERS are WINNERS!
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From: douthit@convex.com (Ronnie Douthit)
Subject: Re: Cowboys clinch NFC East
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:14:11 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
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              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch) writes:
>I loved the game, though, because it showed what a pretender Sanders really
>is.  Irvin turned him inside, outside, upside-down, including one strike

I loved the game also, but to call Sanders a pretender is harsh.  Sanders
had a bad game.  Once you get frustrated, like he did, it only gets worse.
Sanders is a great athlete, but Dallas did a good job containing him on
returns.  Nevertheless, I'd take him anyday.

				-Ron
From: curt@oce.orst.edu (Curt Vandetta)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Suggestions for improving instant replay
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:57:31 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, College of Oceanography
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In article <lj348vINNn9a@langtry.cs.utexas.edu> joel@cs.utexas.edu (Joel Daniel Just) writes:
>
>This is not--repeat NOT--a discussion of whether or not instant replay should
>come back to the NFL.  Rather, this is a discussion of what improvements would
>make instant replay better.

    You simply can't make it any better than it is this year!

    Curt
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From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The Purple Bleeder )
Subject: Re: It wasn't Pretty (49ers WON)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:12:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Speaking of the Viking's game against the 49ers, I was 
perplexed as to why Green was not keeping Salisbury
warmed up and ready to go on the side-lines after 
seeing that Gannon was performing miserably on the
field.

S.H
From: bergerson@cvdv79.mayo.edu (Chad D. Bergerson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: VIKINGS WIN!!! 6-3
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:36:41 GMT
Reply-To: bergerson@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Clinic, Rochester, MN


->>->-- 
->>SO WHAT!!  You only need 6 points if the other team only gets 3. :^)
->>
->>Awesome defense.
->>
->Spoken like a true FAN!  Pause.....Reality check! Get Real, please
->for your own sanity. Yes GREAT game for the fans, but do you
->seriously contend that they can win through the playoffs this way?
->
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->"To be absolutely certain about something, one must know
->everything or nothing about it."   Olin Miller
->

So, at least the Vikes are in the playoffs, which are just a dream for the 
packers.  The pack and Mr. Favre will be brought back to reality by four guys
by the name of Doleman, Thomas, Noga, and Randle.  

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From: claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird)
Subject: Colts' accomplishments (was: San Diego in playoffs?????)
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:07:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.010954.15106@qualcomm.com> greg@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Greg Noel) writes:
>Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.cis.YALE.EDU (ALN - Go Giants!) writes:
>>Could this be the only team to start 0-4 and make it?  Anyone go 0-3 and 
>>make the playoffs?  Just wonderin'
>
>'Tis true.  In fact, no team has every opened 0-4 and ended up winning as
>many as _eight_ games(*).  And now there's even a reasonable chance that
			.
			.
			.
Did someone say that the Colts have already
set a new standard for year-to-year turnaround?
Anyone have handy some of the other notable
yearly non-correlations in number of wins?  I
remember the Giants falling quite far after
their first SB, and the Bears and Cards have
had some big swings during their histories ...

Incidentally, over in r.s.basketball.pro, all
regular readers know that the biggest year-to-
year advances were those associated with the
arrivals of D. Robinson and S. Elliott in San
Antonio, and L. Bird in Boston.
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From: gary@sage.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand)
Subject: Re: Bills a Bust? (WAR is HELL)
Reply-To: strandwg@ncar.ucar.edu (Gary Strand)
Organization: NCAR
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 23:34:52 GMT

jg> JOHN (Gloria)

jg> It seems "some" Bills fans always seem to bring the fact the they beat the
    Niners. Hey, that is old, history. That win does not mean the Bills are
    the best team, does it?

  It seems at least one Niners fan always seems to mention the fact that the
  Niners won 4 SBs. Hey, that is old, history. Those wins do not mean the 49ers
  are the best team this season, do they?
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From: jjungbau@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Vikes gone... when's the draft?
Date: 3 Jan 93 00:07:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1993Jan3.000731.27398
Distribution: usa
Organization: Washington State University, Pullman
Originator: jjungbau@luke.eecs.wsu.edu

Well, the Redskins have beaten the Vikes in convincing fashion, 24-7.  The
Vikes got off to a good early start, but QB mistakes eventually killed them
again.  Congratulations to the Redskins for a fine performance... the Skins
must be considering renting the Dome for their home games from now on. :)

Now that the playoffs are effectively over for me, I'm looking ahead to the
QB change that will necessarily be made by the Vikes.  I can't remember who
has been saying it all along, but one poster has made it clear that he is not
in favor of a quick fix like Montana, and I agree, especially if we are going
to have to give up very much to get him.  I would rather see the Vikes use
the draft to acquire a good young QB if possible.  Anyone know who might be
available late in the first round (except for Toretta... I really don't want
them to go after him... I haven't been impressed with him at all, and the
Heisman was a joke).

What would the Vikes have to give up to trade for the number one pick?  We
should be getting an announcement any time now from Bledsoe here, telling us
that he won't be returning next year. :-(

Jim
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From: dggok@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (4E150M)
Subject: Re: API All-Pro Team
Reply-To: dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 20:57:05 GMT

In article <exucad.102.0@exu.ericsson.se> exucad@exu.ericsson.se (Charles Dobbins) writes:
>>QB - (Tie) Randall Cunningham, PHIL; Jim Kelly, BUF
>            ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
>What is this!!! I'm constantly amazed at some peoples stupidity. Randall is 
>a very talented athlete and all but this year is definatly not his best. I 

Actually, this was probably more of an anomaly than anything else.  Steve
Young got 78 of the 80 votes.  This means that Kelly got 1 and Cunningham
got 1.  Go argue with the 1 person who picked Cunningham instead of
whatever QB you prefer :-).

>suppose this must have been some kind of pitty vote for poor Randall that 
>was benched because he stunk the place up. This really proves that the All 
>Pro team is really a joke!
> 
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From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: The NFC Playoffs Begin
Date: 31 Dec 1992 19:58:46 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Atomic Biophysics H.H.M.I.
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[stuff deleted]
 >> Well, Jerry Jones said last week that some form of Freedom for players
 >> will help the Cowboys because most players in the NFL would sign on with them
 >> in a minute. 
 >> 
 >This is a perfect example of the cocky arrogance of the Cowboys and only
 >reinforces my deep hatred of them!!!
 >
 >GO EAGLES!!! 

The more you hate us, the more we enjoy it !!
DALLAS COWBOYS 
1992 NFC EAST CHAMPIONS
tim

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