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From: aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: muscle fat-burning "efficiency"
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:17:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Aug19.131708.22623
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


Tone muscles burn more fat than weaker muscles in the same
amount of time for any given exercise.

In this respect, the stronger muscles are more efficient than
the weaker muscles at burning fat.

I did NOT assert that weight training in and of itself is 
a good way to burn fat... I merely pointed out that all other
things being equal, strong muscles burn more fat than weaker
ones. If you're going to engage in aerobic exercise to burn
fat, your body will burn the fat more efficiently (that is, it'll
burn more fat in any given amount of time) when the muscles you
use are stronger rather than weaker.

-- 
* aa595@cleveland.freenet.edu * Dan Dooovall *
*    seeking hot chocolate    * '''''''''''' *
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Subject: Re: Fitness Thoughts
Reply-To: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 01:10:32 GMT


In a previous article, ekp@mcnc.org (Edward Pavelchek) says:

>In article <1992Aug17.123046.10333@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall) writes:
>[in regard to lifting weights]
>>
>>... but it does make your
>>muscles more efficient at burning fat, which assists overall fat reduction.
>
>Strength training does not stress fat burning pathways.  It doesn't 
>particularly stress aerobic pathways unless relatively light weights for
>many reps are used.  Why would weight training improve fat efficiency,
>unless the movement was carried out continuously for 20 minutes? (I keep
>reading this on the net.)  That would be at least 200 reps.

Because muscle mass actually burns both glucose and fat all the time.
It's just that during aerobic exercise, it burns mostly fat, while
during anaerobic exercise, it concentrates on the glucose.

Strictly speaking though, you are correct.  Strength training doesn't
make your muscles more efficient at burning fat.  It just increases
muscle mass, which causes them to burn more fat and more glucose (even
"toning" exercises actually cause some increase in muscle mass).

-- 
Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., grad student & roboticist-in-training, CWRU

"If God does not judge the United States, then He owes |    My boss is a 
 an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah."   - Billy Graham   |  Jewish carpenter.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: billb@crpmks.uucp (Bill Bochnik (Info Systems))
Subject: Re: What's the deal with those carbohydrates
Reply-To: billb@crpmks.UUCP (Bill Bochnik (Info Systems))
Organization: Ciba-Geigy Corporation
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:33:04 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.124639.19942@dscomsf.desy.de> muchor@vax58b.desy.de writes:
>I might have missed that, but what is the difference between the
>complex and simple carbohydrates ? I mean, the difference not between
>the chemical bonds or whatever, but rather why our body reacts in
>a different way and thus it is better to fuel a body for a workout
>with complex carbos ?
>   Krzys



As a side note, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't stuff like rice and other 
grains complex carbo's, while sugar is a simple carbo?  Thanks.


-- 
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Systems Analyst 		|	and Costello world.
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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: brian@tyr.scs.uiuc.edu (Brian Eugene Ackerson)
Subject: Re: Reducing External Obliques
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: misc
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:15:33 GMT

agrawal@lipari.usc.edu (Amitabh Agrawal) writes:
>Anyway, is there any way of figuring out whether some piece of tissue
>is fat or muscle and if it is indeed muscle how do I get rid of it? Is

     You can't flex fat.

					Brian Ackerson
					brian@odin.scs.uiuc.edu

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: gliba@scivax.stsci.edu
Subject: Re: Body Gold
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 04:14:19 GMT

>From: lisa@zeppelin.llnl.gov (Lisa Corsetti)
>Subject: Body Gold
>Keywords: Is it for real?
>Date: 15 Aug 92 00:18:43 GMT

>Hi People,

>In a magazine add, I saw this stuff called "Body Gold" available through
>mail order.  The add read as follows:

>        22% Less Body Fat in Six Weeks 
>        University studies have identified CHROMIUM PICOLINATE
>        as a trigger for fat loss and lean muscle enhancement.
>        200 micrograms taken daily caused a 22% fat loss in only
>        six weeks.

>        Women of every age are talking about the amazing benefits
>        of this safe, essential nutrient:

>        Weight Loss - Fat Loss More Endurance and Stamina More
>        Lean Muscle

>        Body Gold is made to the exact specifications of the
>        capsules used in the studies.  Each bottle of 60 capsules
>        is a two month supply.

>Okay, I saw this in "New Woman Magazine".  Does anyone know what
>this chemical *really* does.  Are the claims for real?  Thanks
>in advance!

>                                                Lisa


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   I've been using this product for a couple month's now and, without changing
my exercise or eating habits much, have lost about five pounds. My love handles
are much smaller as a result. :-)


G.W. Gliba

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: gauthier@ug.cs.dal.ca (Paul Gauthier)
Subject: Need lower body advice
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 12:37:42 GMT

Hi guys... I've been working out steady for about 6 months now. Mainly, as
most semi-newbies, I've been spending a lot of time on upper body, and no
time on lower body. In truth, I have been cycling all summer (40km/day
and a 300km tour in 2 days) which has kept my legs in shape. As the summer
winds down I want to start working my legs for a few reasons:

    - I won't be biking anymore, and besides my hamstrings don't get a lot
      from biking
    - I don't want to fall into the trap of getting upper but not lower
      body developement
    - I was hitting a wall with my training. I think it had more to do with
      overtraining, but I'm hoping some variety will get me back on track
    - From my reading, stimulation of the large muscles in the legs and
      glutes will help stimulate overall muscle growth and weight gain

So, I am in need of some advice: What is a good lower body program? I'm
thinking about changing to a 3 day on 2 day off, or maybe even 3 day per
week routine (see mention of overtraining above). One day will be bi and
shoulder. One day will be tri, chest and back. And the other day lower body.

What are the excercises I should be doing? I would like to work on calfs,
but am fairly comfortable with those excercises. What do I do for glutes,
thighs and hamstrings?

Thanks a lot people!

PG


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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: garyd@netcom.com (Gary Dietz)
Subject: What's the deal with those carbohydrates
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 18:50:39 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

(Posted for a friend)

What is a good amount of carbohydrates to ingest daily if you work out?

What is a good book to read about carbohydrates and sports diets?

Thanks,

Gary (for Dave. . . )


-- 

   "To find fault is easy; to do better may be difficult."  -Plutarch
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: andria@white.toronto.edu (Andria L. Hunter)
Subject: Re: Pulled Groin Muscle Question
Organization: DCS, University of Toronto
Date: 20 Aug 92 05:43:28 GMT

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Pulled Groin Muscle Question 

rpark@stam.QE.Bell.CA (Richard Park) writes:

>I pulled a muscle (possible groin). There is a pain where my leg meets the
>torso.  When I lift my leg up in a certain direction, I can feel the pulled 
>muscle pain.  Because I play sports (3 times per week) I don't think I will 
>be able to take a few weeks off to heal. It seems to take about 30 minutes 
>of warmup to get it loose so that it doesn't cause pain. The first few times 
>of running full tilt seems to casue pain but after the pain occurs once or 
>twice during the next hour that I am playing soccer/football or hockey.
>
>Does anyone know how to treat it/warm up so I can get it healed asap while 
>still playing sports?

Unfortunately this is one muscle which requires a lot of rest in order
to heal it fully.  I play for Team Canada (Women's Ice Hockey), and I 
went through the week of tryouts at the end of January ('92) with a severe
groin pull.  Continuing to skate on it definitely made it worse (even
though I had it wrapped), but I had no choice since I really wanted to
make the team.  The World Championships were in Finland in April '92
(Yes Canada won :-) - and I was the 3rd highest scorer in the tournament!), 
and I was forced to take a full 5 weeks off - NO SKATING AT ALL - after the
tryouts at the end of January.  They had me doing very light stretching
and contrasts (alternating between 2 minute of icing and 2 minute in a 
hot tub, for a total of 30 minutes).  I gradually worked up to doing
strength exercises (after the contrasts and light stretching) followed
by icing.  It was funny, but it didn't hurt at all to use the exercise
bike (just the skating motion where your legs go out to the side hurt), 
so I was really lucky that I was able to keep up my cardio when I was
off for such a long time ... especially with the World Championships
not very far away!

Andria

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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall)
Subject: Re: .			Hey B.....
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 14:33:21 GMT


B writes:

>No - it means your urine is yellow.

Ironically, in the past 3 hours my urine has
turned a pale shade of blue.

I GOTTA stop eating so much blueberry yogurt...

<buys 16 cases of lemon yogurt>

-- 
* aa595@cleveland.freenet.edu * Dan Doooovall *
*  feared foe of fruit flies  * ///////////// *
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: goodguy@next03pg2.wam.umd.edu (Shen Kai Lew)
Subject: Re: Don't do leglifts (was Re: suggested books/exercises for ab work?)
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:31:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.151849.9000@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com>  
wilson@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (David Wilson) writes:
> The sports medicine column in Iron Man has addressed abdominal training
> three times in the last two years or so.  The latest announced some
> research that had come up with a variation on the crunch that truly
> prevents involvement of the muscles that rotate the hips (the hip  
flexors)
> and pull on the lumbar vertebrae in the process.
> 
> One of the earlier columns was very specific on the fact that leglifts
> in particular, and any excercises that depend on the same muscles,
> are to be avoided.  Unless you are a gymnast you don't need great
> strength in those muscles anyway.  The author said their clinic has
> never seen a gymnast who DIDN'T have serious lowback pain.  He described
> a case involving a female sprinter who was doing leglifts to, she  
thought,
> strengthen muscles she needed to set better times.  After getting her to
> quit the leglifts, her back pain was resolved, and she proceeded to set
> new personal bests.
> 
> Leglifts do NOT work the "lower abdominals" as commonly believed, and
> are VERY BAD for the lower back.  The object of training is to be  
stronger
> and healthier, right?  You want your efforts to make you better off, not
> worse off, right?  Don't believe 99% of the trash about developing the
> abdominals.  Twisting exercises were another one debunked in a column a
> while back.  I can't count the articles I've seen showing Joe Superstar
> doing hundreds of twists, seated to boot.  You might just as well use a
> hacksaw on the disks between your lumbar vertebrae -- you would at least
> get it over with sooner.
> 
> The sports medicine column in Iron Man is very valuable reading.  There
> are many common excercises that are very damaging, while not doing much
> of the good they are commonly believed to do.  There are others that
> can effectively work the intended muscles, and not do damage, if done
> properly (but some of the commonly practiced versions are not proper and
> cause problems).
> 
> Dave Wilson

Want big quads? Bike -- Marvin
From: lisap@olomana.soest.hawaii.edu (Lisa Petersen)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Max Heart Rate Formulas for Men vs Women
Date: 21 Aug 92 03:18:56 GMT
Organization: School of Ocean and Earth Science and Technology
Originator: lisap@olomana

Some of the recent postings about heart rates reminded me to ask
this...

I've seen in a couple places that maximum heart rate can be
approximated by 226 minus age for women, and 220 minus age for men.
Anyone know why the difference?  Is it because women are on the
average smaller than men (smaller animals tend to have more rapid
heart rates)?

Thanks,

Lisa Petersen
From: rtp@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Tri-athlete
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:17:31 -0500

Suggest you try the triathlon group.  There are also magazines that are 
helpful.  If you like, I can get the addresses.  Richard Poole
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: robin@cs.columbia.edu (Jacques Robin)
Subject: Fat olympians
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:32:30 GMT


Why are so many olympic throwers and heavyweight lifters fat?

Is it that carrying fat is in itself an advantage for these events (i.e.
for two athletes with the same muscle mass, one lean and one with
additional weight coming from fat, the fat one will tend to perform better)
and if so why?  

Or is it that for these events, carrying fat, though not an advantage, is
not an handicap either, and, as a consequence, throwers and lifters simply
don't try to avoid putting on fat as a side effect of putting on muscle mass?

Any clue on this one?

Thanks,


Jacques.

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: greene@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Courtney Greene)
Subject: Re: Pyramids vs increasing weight, decreasing, etc.
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:17:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.192155.16485@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:

>	Leg extention, the machine maxes out at 150(?) a weight that
>	I can do 35 reps with and only get bored.   If I try the same
>	weight with one leg, I can do 15-20 per set, but it bruises my
                                                            ^^^^^^^
>	shins terribly.   I have eliminated this exercise from my workout,
>	as it seems pointless.
>

Try placing one of those soccer shin guards inside your sock to eliminate
the bruising.

CG.
From: SSDC2@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (J Green)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Life Cycle comments wanted - oops, make th
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:31:30 GMT

>From: evanh@sco.COM (Evan Hunt)
>re: Life Circuit machines

>Well, they're available at a gym here, which isn't affiliated with Holiday
>Health, as far as I know. They do seem pretty cool but weird for someone used
>to free weights.

that's strange, i was used to free weights at the time i tried them, and i
didn't find them "weird"! ;-)  in fact, i found the movements alot closer
to free weight movements than many other machines!

of course your mileage may vary, and i suspect it has something to do with
body size/proportion. :-)  (i'm 5'6" and female).

Janice
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From: smay@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Scott Smay)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:13:24 GMT
Subject: Re: Running Question
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID
Newsgroups: misc.fitness

If you want to improve as a runner, you need to do both long slow runs and
shorter faster ones. The boundary between faster and slower is quite individual,and 7min/mile would be pretty fast for the average novice. One objective way
of defining fast and slow would be via heart rate--there are many references
to this, my favorite being "Serious Training for Serious Athletes" by 
Sleamaker. A great running book by Jeff Galloway is also recommended.

I think the concern about injuring oneself by running too slow is overstated.
There are plenty of ten minute/mile marathoners out there. I _have_ hurt
myself running slow, when I've modified my stride to run slower than was
natural for me (when keeping pace with a slower companion).

my .02,
scott smay
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: I WAS ON ABC W/ADAM FOR TWO MIN
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 16:14:41 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.145117.5199@nrao.edu> lmiller@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu (Luther Miller) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.180237.3576@spcvxb.spc.edu> 8schutting_r@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
>>why does adam always have to put at the end of every message that he's a power
>>lifter and arm wrestler? is this official designated title bestowed on him by
>>the univ. of maryland president?

Will you guys stop picking on Adam?  Pick on someone your own size, huh?
He can hardly walk around on those tiny little legs!

>>BS in powerlifting & arm wrestling. don't worry about getting an education adam
>>pro arm wrestling is going to be on american gladiators. maybe you'll finally 
>>be able to do something with that degree.
>>
>>i eventually lifted the 100lbs. off of adam's chest with one arm then impressed

Yeah.  Fine.  Think about how much oxygen deprivation to his brain
occurred because of you!  His .sig was bestowed upon him by the King
of Muscles, who was presented with Excatabol, the Golden Armblaster,
as a constant reminder of his place as Guardian of Little Feet.

Okay, Adam, we'll stop.  

GMS
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: aleck@athena.mit.edu (Aleck H Alexopoulos)
Subject: Re: I WAS ON ABC W/ADAM FOR TWO MIN
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:53:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.144049.313@ginger.hnrc.tufts.edu>, loszewski_im@ginger.hnrc.tufts.edu writes:
|> In article <1992Aug20.135523.27884@athena.mit.edu>, poo@athena.mit.edu (Claude Poux) writes:
|> > In article <1992Aug19.230028.14334@oracle.us.oracle.com> hweingra@oracle.UUCP (Howard Weingram) writes:
|> >>In article <1992Aug19.045058.6873@athena.mit.edu> aleck@athena.mit.edu (Aleck H Alexopoulos) writes:
|> >>>As a neutral observor to the unofficial Boston armwrestling and ego 
|> >>>championships (which Adam won) i must note that at no time did Adam 
|> >>>inform us of the official armwrestling rules. 
|> >>>
|> >>>A hidden camera took a video of Adam using highly suspect technique against his
|> >>>worthy opponent Ron Cecchini. The tape will be forwarded to the 
|> >>>maryland Armwrestling Association and their punishment will be 
|> >>>severe: They'll take away Adams Arwrestling T-shirt! 
|> >>>
|> >>>Aleck
|> >>
|> >>Wow. And here we thought Adam was just the Karelin of arm wrestling. 
|> >>The sordid truth is just too much. You've wrecked my faith  in humanity, Aleck.
|> >>What did he do, body slam him?
|> >>
|> > 
|> > 
|> > hal, not all is lost.  aleck is the karelin of drag racing.  he drives
|> > like a rabid bat out of hell.  it made for quite a whirlwind experience!
|> > 
|> > poo
|> 
|> Given the proper set of "wheels", I tend to drive like a drag racer, but I
|> almost wet myself that night!! :-)
|> -Rob

Hey Im much calmer now than when I was younger. 
Besides, g-forces make for good adrenalin surges 
which make for good pre-workout highs! 

Aleck
From: wilson@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (David Wilson)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: suggested books/exercises for ab work?
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:28:10 GMT
Organization: Schlumberger CAD/CAM; Ann Arbor, Michigan (USA)

In article <1992Jul29.183836.14445@PA.dec.com> stark@dwovax.enet.dec.com (Todd I. Stark) writes:
>
>Another traditional ab exercise from boxing is leg throw downs,
>where you raise your legs up (like a straight leg raise) while lying supine, 
>and a partner grabs your ankles and throws them forcefully toward the floor
>while you use your abs to rapidly slow them down before they hit
>the floor.  This is another 'plyometric' type exercise, for explosive power
>and toughness, not really for bodybuilding, and it's potentially dangerous for 
>your back, so if you try it, be very careful and start slowly.
>

Your phrase "potentially dangerous for your back" is a dangerous case of
understatement!  I most sincerely hope noone runs to the gym to try this
one out.  I'll post a separate message suggesting people read the sports
medicine column in Iron Man magazine.  Just trying to visualize the
shock loadings trying to yank the lumbar vertebrae forward, while performing
the stunt described above, is about enough to make me lose my lunch.

If just one person who would have tried the above refrains due to reading
this, I will have done my good deed for the year.

Dave Wilson