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From: rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich Holmes)
Subject: Re: The Annotated Pratchett File, v2.0
In-reply-to: rt@ukc.ac.uk's message of 8 Sep 92 14:30:22 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 11:42:16 EDT

In article <1585@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> rt@ukc.ac.uk (R.W.Thearle) writes:

>No-one seems to have mentioned this, but the assassin's guild bears
>an uncanny resemblance to the Rugby of "Tom Brown's Schooldays",
>for example the references to the soppy looking new kid (Arthur) who
>says his prayers in the dorm at night...
>
>				Roy
>
>Or is this too obvious?

To reply "no" would be a vast understatement.

I, at least, don't have the slightest familiarity with what you're
referring to.

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From: andrew@venus.resntl.bhp.com.au
Subject: Re: Celibate wizards
Organization: BHP Research, Newcastle Laboratories
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 02:11:08 GMT

vader@meryl.csd.uu.se (]ke Eldberg) writes:
 
>In all myths and legends I know of, wizards are celibate. I believe
>it has something to do with the idea that anyone who has sex with
>women/becomes enamoured of a woman will no longer be fully in power
>over his own life. 
> 
This seems to parallel the commonly held view that footballers should not
"indulge" the night before a big match because it "saps their strength or
something". From what I've seen, this has about as much validity in an
objective, physical sense as celibacy for wizards. (Unless I've missed some
recent research results - should I be cross-posting this to
alt.folklore.urban? ;-)

Andrew
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From: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Subject: chronology of TLF vs ER (was Re: Weatherwax)
Keywords: weatherwax
Reply-To: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:56:38 GMT


In article <BuMLt1.16G@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>,
ccamfiel@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Christopher Camfield) writes:
|>
|>If we take the books as being in chronological order, then they can't be
|>the same archchancellor, since The Light Fantastic comes after Equal Rites.
|>And in fact, since we haven't seen any of the effects of ER in the Unseen
|>University (classes taught by witches, female students, etc.) then perhaps
|>we have to set ER further in the future than the other books.  In which case
|>it certainly can't be the same Archchancellor.  Comments?

Why do you say that The Light Fantastic comes after Equal Rites?  I didn't see
anything in the plot that tied occurrances in one to happening after occurrances
in the other.  In fact, I dimly remember that TLF was where the Librarian
became an orang-utan.  If so, that means that ER must take place after TLF, not
before, as you asserted.

--PSW
From: Jsr@Xyzzy.equinox.gen.nz (J S Russell)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: The Annotated Pratchett File, v2.0
Date: 6 Sep 92 22:56:05 +1200
Organization: Alternative Micro Systems Ltd
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mblaser@nyx.cs.du.edu (Fox) writes:
: Don't know if anyone else knows this but the scene in The Light Fantastic
: with Cohen the Barbarian in a yurt with the nomadic tribes of the plains
: was in fact a take off from Conan the barbarian. Conan says something
: to the effect that 'the best thing in life is to slay your enemies and
: listen to the wailing of their women folk'.  Cohen's vision of perfection
: is 'warm shoup and soft toilet paper' which proves he had a better idea
: of what was were with what and when!

In the first Conan movie, Arnie (as Conan) is asked this question. His answer
is (from memory) "To crush your enemies underfoot, and to hear the cries
and lamentations of their women." Almost work for word one of the answers 
that a nomad gives...

: Oh, and Conan...Cohen...get the idea?

HAW HAW HAW
I GET IT!@#

TERRY PRATCHETT CANT SPELL!!@!@@

I GET IT !!@!@@!

HAW HAW JUST LIKE POTATOE!@!# HAW! I GET IT.

JSR
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From: mblaser@nyx.cs.du.edu (Fox)
Subject: Re: Ideas.Terry Don't Read This (but all ideas held within are creative pd 
Keywords: elves elf ideas more ideas and a banana
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 00:31:31 GMT

graeme@avalon.oe.fau.edu (Graeme Rae) writes:


>(Oh come on, it wasnt that bad......)

Yes it was.  As pennance write a two hundred word article for National 
Enquirer.

Mike
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From: ins450m@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (T.F. Eccles)
Subject: Re: Why do wizards need to be celibate?
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 06:30:41 GMT

t88swa@tdb.uu.se (Sven Wallman) writes:


>SPOILER?





>I don't understand why wizards need to be celibate. In 'Mort' the reason is
>that impure thoughts destroy the ability of doing magic, but in Sourcery
>it is because wizards get children who are too good at magic.
>any comments?

Probably been answerted four hundred times already - its because the
8th son of wizard is a Sourcerer - a source of magic. The 'creation'
of a sorcerer would have drawn the discworld into more Mage Wars.

Eccles


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From: ins450m@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (T.F. Eccles)
Subject: Re: The Annotated Pratchett File, v2.0
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 06:25:23 GMT

d0chris@dtek.chalmers.se (Christer Borang) writes:

>pashley@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Montykins) writes:

>>In article <1992Sep3.162154.1@fnalo.fnal.gov>, morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (Elmo the Vampire Slayer) writes:
>>>
>>>	Well, I'm also a provincial American, and Rjinswind looks dead-on
>>>Scandinavian to *me*.  The `Rj' looks like `fjord' after all.

>Well, 'fj' is a lot easier to pronounce than 'rj'...at least IMHO :)

(pining for the rjords? No, it doesn't sound the same... *grin*)

Ecceles
Who can no longer remember how to spell his pseudonym.

.
Great Cthulhu will save you.
(In case he gets hungry later).
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From: Robert.Holton@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Robert Holton)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: The Annotated Pratchett File, v2.0
Date: 7 Sep 92 15:00:32 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1992Sep7.020855.3524@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> ins448c@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Mills) writes:
>BTW, what does "Pour encourjay lays ortras" mean?  I know it is meant to be
>'dog-french' but have no idea what it should translate to.
>
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Literally "to encourage the others"
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From: stefan@spc.nl (Stefan Posthuma)
Subject: Re: Dutch
Organization: SPC Company BV, The Netherlands
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 15:59:32 GMT

ins450m@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (T.F. Eccles) writes:

>Dutch was described to me by someone who came back from a
>year in Europe as 'Not so much a language as a throat disease'
Zeg! Dat zij geen geintjes meer! Hoe durf je ons brabbeltaaltje te
kleineren! Moge mannen met zeisen uw dromen tot vreselijke nachtmerries
maken. Padden op je pad!

That'll teach you to make fun of our noble language.... ;-)
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From: pmcauley@maths.tcd.ie (Paul Mc Auley)
Subject: Re: Ideas.Terry Don't Read This (but all ideas held within are creative pd
Keywords: elves elf ideas more ideas and a banana
Organization: Maths R Us
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:34:27 GMT

In <1992Sep8.051952.3775@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mblaser@nyx.cs.du.edu (Fox) writes:

|psychopath.  And an entire race of them could only lead to some rather
|nasty encounters, especially if they are as intelligent as has been already
|hinted at within the books.

And there lies the problem, if they are as nasty as suggested, then they
probably have the same attitude as Wizards did (ie. kill off the
competition/each other)

|So here's a plan.  A wing of the elves decides it's going to get into
|crime.  All of crime.  It's going to start attempting to monopolise 
|the strictly quotaed muggings, beatings, robberies and assassinations
|held within the number one city (ie Ankh-Moorpork) by setting up the
|closest thing to a Mafia network that could possibly be set up in AM.

Oh noooooo.... I would have them set up as the Japanese equivalent..
That way you can have them go up against the Guild(ie Mafia) and take it
from there (gang wars etc. :-))

	Paul Mc A.
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From: vader@meryl.csd.uu.se (]ke Eldberg)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Celibate wizards
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:57:25
Organization: University of Uppsala, Sweden
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In-reply-to: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk's message of Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:08:00 +0000

In all myths and legends I know of, wizards are celibate. I believe
it has something to do with the idea that anyone who has sex with
women/becomes enamoured of a woman will no longer be fully in power
over his own life. It's like Samson losing his hair or something;
women are thought to deprive men of their power. This is a very old
idea. Ask the Jungian psychologists, they should be able to tell you...

]ke
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:19:57 -0400 
From: "Steven M. Stadnicki" <ss7m+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: The 'Missing' Diskworld book

*Note--I am using a friend's account to post--my site doesn't get this group for some annoying reason.
I was just wondering if anyone knows why _Eric_ wasn't released in the US? I managed to grab a copy recently while visiting Montreal, and quite enjoyed it.
Please e-mail replies to 'pfritsch@skid.ps.uci.edu', until I can convince the power's that be to carry this group.

Paul Fritschle
pfritsch@skid.ps.uci.edu
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From: ins448c@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Mills)
Subject: Re: Celibacy and Wizards
Organization: Monash University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 05:09:32 GMT

CJ Canon (clement@arp.anu.edu.au) wrote:
: 
: In article 524 of alt.fan.pratchett, Andrew Mills (ins448c@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au) writes:
: >You've got it completely wrong, it is the (nine - one)th son of a wizard that
: >becomes a Sourcerer. And the reason is actually, that wizards who have spent 
: >their whole life in search of more/better magic never got time to have 
: >dalliances with females and are now too old to enjoy them, and therefore
: >refuse to let younger wizards have any fun either. :-)      
: 
: Partly correct. It is actually the 8th son of the 8th son who becomes the 
: sourcer{er|or}. Terry writes: "An eighth son of an eighth son - a wizard
: squared - a Sourceror" (or something v. similar).

No, I am completely correct.  The eighth son of an eighth son is the perfect
candidate to become a wizard.  It is the eighth son of a wizard or the eighth
son of an eighth son of an eighth son that becomes a sourcerer.  It is to avoid
sourcerers that wizards also avoid sex.

: CJ
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From: nickles@sage.cc.purdue.edu (john a nickles)
Subject: Re: The Annotated Pratchett File, v2.0
Summary: there's no police like holmes
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 01:43:36 GMT

In article <ILYIRQ5@taronga.com> peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:

>The more I read the Holmes stories the more and more obvious it is to me
>that Holmes was a complete charlatan. His methods are more often than not
>founded on pseudoscience, bigotry, and prejudice. But he so frequently
>came to the right conclusion based in false evidence...
>
All right, is da Silva a psuedoym for Lestrade, Moran or Milverton?
No other person would dare insult the Master in this fashion.



>I'm sure that Holmes was really the person he described as "Moriarty", and
>Moriarty never actually existed. The whole detective agency scheme was to
>hide his criminal activities from his smarter older brother, and to wipe
>out competition in the London underworld.
>-- 

Actually, this has already been proposed by no less a personage than P.G.
Wodehouse in both an introduction to "The Sign of Four" and in the
short story "From A Detective's Notebook". In "The Oxford Anthology
of Humorous Prose", Wodehouse admits that this is one of his favorite
stories. Among Holmesians, however, this theory is about as popular
as Rex Stout's assertation that Watson was a woman. 
(Why seemingly intellegent men go mad like this, I'll never know)


>
>Peter da Silva, Taronga Park BBS, Houston, TX  +1 713 568 0480/1032


John A. Nickles
Standard Disclaimer: Purdue has their opinions, I have mine
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From: ins450m@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (T.F. Eccles)
Subject: Re: Signings 
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 12:12:14 GMT

tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett) writes:


>And for the Australians out there: Transworld in Australia seem much keener
>this year on concentrating in Western Australia.  They don't see much mileage
>in another tour in the east only a year after the last one.

um.... where's my gun..... whats their address?

Eccles aka <sob>
From: hennebry@plains.NoDak.edu (Michael J. Hennebry)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Why do wizards need to be celibate?
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:31:48 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1992Sep7.084030.2448@tdb.uu.se> t88swa@tdb.uu.se (Sven Wallman) writes:
>I don't understand why wizards need to be celibate. In 'Mort' the reason is
>that impure thoughts destroy the ability of doing magic, but in Sourcery
>it is because wizards get children who are too good at magic.
>any comments?

Don't remember that in Mort. If it's there it's clearly wrong. Remember
Trimble(?), the royal (you're not alone, I'm here), recognizer. There is
also the sourceror's father. Neither makes it clear what happens if an
eighth son of an eighth son of an eighth son becomes a wizard if his
father did not or what happens if a female wizard's eighth son becomes
a wizard. 'Impure' thoughts clearly do not interfere with witchcraft.
Hmmmmm. Horny boys who might otherwise want to be wizards.

-- 
Mike   hennebry@plains.NoDak.edu
"I still thing it's garbage, but beautifully cooked."   --  TP on TP
From: ppg@oasis.icl.co.uk (Philippe Goujard)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: TP Books in french?
Date: 9 Sep 92 11:27:17 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: ICL, Bracknell, Berkshire, RG12 4SN, UK

Allright, I repost the question since last time nobody saw it.
And now that Terry is back, at leat he will know.

Are there any books translated in french? Or any plan to translate the DW
serie or the Nome serie?

(I am specially thinking of the Nome serie since I really enjoyed it and I
found the writing very close to my way of thinking).

Anyway maybe those questions could be part of the FAQ, giving the list of
titles translated in other langages.
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From: dan@dunaad.co.uk (Daniel Hunter)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: The Annotated Pratchett File, v2.0
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:59:05 GMT
Organization: Johnson Hunter Limited


Hi , I'm probably missing something but where is the Annotated Pratchett file?
thanx in advance

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From: rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: box =/= balls
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:25:33 GMT
	<BuELnD.50z@newcastle.ac.uk> <18ppmjINNqqh@agate.berkeley.edu>
Organization: Syracuse University
In-reply-to: lee@soda.berkeley.edu's message of 11 Sep 1992 09:42:43 GMT

In article <18ppmjINNqqh@agate.berkeley.edu> lee@soda.berkeley.edu (Lee Thompson-Herbert) writes:

>In article <BuELnD.50z@newcastle.ac.uk> Lindsay.Marshall@newcastle.ac.uk (Lindsay F. Marshall) writes:
>>hennebry@plains.NoDak.edu (Michael J. Hennebry) writes:
>>>Interesting. I've also heard that "box" is slang (American) for labia.
>>
>>Labia?!?! Vagina surely.
>
>American slang?  It's certainly not any US slang _I've_ ever heard,
>and I've lived in many different places in this benighted country.
>
>Canadian slang, maybe?
>

American slang (at least, I've heard it here), meaning vagina.
From: rt@ukc.ac.uk (R.W.Thearle)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: The Annotated Pratchett File, v2.0
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:30:22 GMT
Reply-To: rt@ukc.ac.uk (R.W.Thearle)
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

In article <annotated-pratchett_715386709@ph.tn.tudelft.nl> leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl writes:

>PYRAMIDS:

No-one seems to have mentioned this, but the assassin's guild bears
an uncanny resemblance to the Rugby of "Tom Brown's Schooldays",
for example the references to the soppy looking new kid (Arthur) who
says his prayers in the dorm at night...

				Roy

Or is this too obvious?
From: berry@athos.pei.com (Berry Kercheval)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: References (was Re: Malleus Maleficarum [was Re: Latin])
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:34:38 GMT
	<25665@castle.ed.ac.uk>
Reply-To: berry@pei.com
Organization: Protocol Engines, Inc., Mt. View, California

>>>>> On 9 Sep 92 14:10:19 GMT, cmac@castle.ed.ac.uk (Colin MacDonald) said:
Colin> I must confess to being prepared to accept that TP has at
Colin> least _some_ originality in his work, and many of the examples cited in
Colin> this group could well be pure coincidence.  Perhaps someone in authority
Colin> (guess who) would venture to qualify which of these attributions are
Colin> correct?


Gee, does it matter? If it's similar it's similar.  If Terry did it on
purpose, or it's the result of something he was frightened by as a
schoolboy, the workings of his twisted subconcious or just plain
accident, is not the resonance delightful just the same?  Can't we
just enjoy the books, which allude to the whole of Western Literature
(and then some) without interrogating Terry as to which idea came from
where?  Besides, he probably doesn't remember.  

Besides, all literature is derivative of Homer, anyway, so why bother
reading anything?

Sheesh.

  --berry

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From: ins450m@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (T.F. Eccles)
Subject: Wyrd Sister;s
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 06:32:31 GMT

bugger title mispelling.

Anyway, did anyone notice that Felmet kept complaining after
a while that the ""blood won't go away"" not "it won't come off"?

Has something to do with using a metal file I think.....

Very gory.

Eccles

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From: myers@cs.scarolina.edu (Daniel Myers)
Subject: DW physics (or is it Fizziques?)
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Distribution: alt
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:55:53 GMT

Has TP or anyone explained why the disk, elephants, and turtle don't all
go flying off in separate directions?  If not, I have a theory...

Animal Magnetism!

Dan Myers (Madman)
myers@calvin.cs.scarolina.edu
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Subject: Re: Truckers TV show (Diggers & Wings?)
From: lesley@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz (Lesley Walker)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 06:38:59 GMT
Organization: The Cave MegaBBS, Public Access Usenet, Wellington, NZ

anthony@nella12.cc.monash.edu.au (Anthony Baxter) writes:
>
>Now, if only some TV station can pick it up here, and show it.

Nyah, nyah, we got it in NZ before you got it!  :-)

Not that most people would have known about it though, it was shown in
15-min segments in a children's programme at about 3pm.  I saw an episode
by chance, one day when I was home from work.


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