HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mossop@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Antony Mossop)
Subject: Re: Meggy and Yugoslavia
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:35:30 GMT

In article <Aug.11.04.57.27.1992.6867@pilot.njin.net> hubey@pilot.njin.net (Hubey) writes:
>Well, the first American soldiers have arrived in Yugoslavia. That's
>about time--very late actually.
>
>......................
>
>Comparisons to Vietnam are silly. There's no triple cover jungle
>canopy in Yugoslavia. Serbia won't be able to keep fighting ......

Nor in Afghanistan but I think the similarities re. an unwinable(?)
war were very prominent and the mountainous terrain of ex-Yugoslavia
is rather similar to the old USSR's nightmare conflict

>.........
>Determined suicidal fighting is usually reserved in defense of a
>homeland. Soldiers occupying enemy territory are more prone to
>suffer loss of morale when they start to suffer heavy losses :-)..
>
May well be true, though I thought there were a fair number of locals
on the serb side, also do the serbs see BH as enemy territory?
Personally I see no other alternative to immediate intervention
when things like 'ethnic cleansing' start to be bandied about, the
prevention of genocide is about the only justifiable reason for
war IMHO. However, to believe that a war in ex-Yugo would be easy
or that fewer lives would be lost than allowing atrocities to 
continue is, I think, misguided. The, rather disturbing, hope is
that in a proper war a larger proportion of casualties will be
amongst those who are prepared to kill and be killed rather than
the slow massacre of civilians who almost certainly would prefer
to have kept the dispute to political name calling and scuffling
between bored gangs of youths. 
>
>PS. A couple of thousand fighting missions should be enough to
>get the message across that from then on there'll be no
>more cheap victories.
>-- 
Begs the question of who's going to fight them, I realise it's
a professional military's job to kill people and be killed but I
doubt they like it that much.
>
>	mark	
>
>
>   hubey@pilot.njin.net                   hubey@apollo.montclair.edu
> ...!rutgers!pilot!hubey                  hubey@logos.montclair.edu

Tony Mossop, Geophysics, Stanford
From: irfan@APOLLO.ECE.WISC.EDU (Irfan Alan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Kimin keli gorundu?
Date: 21 Aug 92 23:25:49 GMT

>takke dustu, kel gorundu...
>bir daha Allah'in kelimelerini agzina almadan once, agzini uc defa calkalamayi
>unutma...bu dini de sahipsiz, basi bos birakilmis cahillerin insafina 
>terkedilmis sanma...simdi Allah'a tovbe et ki basina bundan daha buyuk 
>yukumlulukler yikilmasin.

her$ey zaten gayet acikti ve gorunuyordu ve hala da oyle.
Kelime oyunlariyla yapmaya cali$tigin bu oyunlarinin gayesi nedir acaba.
Cok merak ediyorum, acaba hiristiyan bir hanim ile evlisin de
onun icin mi boyle bir hizmetin onune gecip celme takmaya ugrasiyorsun.
Oyle degilse, maksadin nedir.  Bize ve Qur'an hizmetine yaptigin bu zulum, 
yanina kalir mi zannediyorsun.

Bir seyi anlamadiysan yahut yanli$ mana veriyorsan, guzel guzel sorarsin
biz de ne anlatmak istedigimizi guzel guzel anlatiriz.  Yazilan onca
hakikat arasindan bir iki cumleye yanli$ mana verip, o hakikatlara
bakmadan ya da onlarin degerini hice ataraktan ve yapilan hizmeti
a$agilayaraktan  bu kadar gurultu, patirti koparmak hic bir insafa
sigmaz.  Erkeksen yapilan hizmetin buyuklugune saygi gosterip
bir tebrik mesaji yollardin, yanli$ anladigin $eyi de sorardin.

Muslumansan, git te bir abdest al, sinirlerin ve $eytanlarin yati$sin 
ve yaptigin bu hovardaliktan vazgec, tovbe et ve bize yapmadigimiz 
ya da ifade etmek istemedigimiz $eyleri ifade ettiniz diye iftira atma.

Yok yapmam, diyorsan; buyur kendini rezil etmeye devam et.
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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Mr. Mutlu, what is your point?
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:52:20 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <m0mKiO5-000MSVC@ddsw1.mcs.com> hbm@ddsw1.mcs.com (Hasan B. Mutlu) writes:
>Source: Professor Stanford J. Shaw, 'The Jews of the Ottoman Empire and 
>        the Turkish Republic,' New York University Press, New York (1991).

[almost 500 lines of quote deleted]

You seem to post tremendous amounts of material from Professor Shaw's
book.  Are you trying to sell it?  Or are you looking to get sued for
copyright infringement? (I think you'll have posted the entire book in
another week!)

And you never state what purpose you have in quoting all this
material.  It seems to be pro-Jewish history, but then I see this
signature at the bottom:

>                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
>                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
>                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
>                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
>                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)

and I wonder what your real purpose is.

-- 
   |)  David Charlap           "I don't even represent myself
  /|_  dic5340@hertz.njit.edu   sometimes so NJIT is right out!.
 ((|,)
  ~|~  Hi! I am a .signature virus, copy me into your .signature file.
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From: tekalp@ee.rochester.edu (A. Murat Tekalp)
Subject: lig maclari
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 18:55:42 GMT

Daha evvel bir mesaj gonderip lig ile ilgili bilgi istemistim. 
E-mail ile gelen cevaplari burada sizinle paylasmak istedim.
Bilgileri gonderen arkadaslara cok tesekkurler.

Murat



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Ilk yari maclari   : 22 Agustos - 20 Aralik 1992
Ikinci yari maclari: 24 Ocak    - 23 Mayis  1993
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TURKIYE 1.LIGI ILK YARI FIKSTURU
--------------------------------
1.Hafta:(8/22)
-------
Trabzon		-	Sariyer
Fenerbahce	-	Bakirkoy
Besiktas	-	Karsiyaka
Genclerbirligi	-	Galatasaray

2.Hafta:(8/30)
-------
Kayseri 	-	Besiktas
Gaziantep	-	Fenerbahce
Konya		-	Trabzon
Galatasaray 	-	Altay

3.Hafta:(9/6)
-------
Trabzon		-	Ankaragucu
Fenerbahce 	-	Sariyer        
Besiktas	-	Bakirkoy
Karsiyaka	-	Galatasaray

4.Hafta:(9/13)
-------
Altay		-	Trabzon
Gaziantep 	-	Besiktas
Konya		-	Fenerbahce      
Galatasaray	-	Aydin

5.Hafta:(9/27)
-------
Trabzon		-	Aydin
Fenerbahce	-	Ankaragucu      
Besiktas	-	Sariyer
Kayseri		-	Galatasaray

6.Hafta:(10/4)
-------
Altay		-	Fenerbahce
Konya		-	Besiktas
Galatasaray	-	Trabzon		

7.Hafta:(10/11)
-------
Bursa		-	Trabzon
Fenerbahce	-	Aydin          
Besiktas	-	Ankaragucu
Bakirkoy	-	Galatasaray

8.Hafta:(10/18)
-------
Altay		-	Besiktas
Trabzon		-	Fenerbahce	
Galatasaray	-	Bursa

9.Hafta:(11/1)
-------
Fenerbahce	-	Bursa           
Kocaeli		-	Trabzon
Besiktas	-	Aydin
Gaziantep	-	Galatasaray

10.Hafta:(11/8)
--------
Trabzon		-	Besiktas	
Galatasaray	-	Fenerbahce	

11.Hafta:(11/15)
--------
Kocaeli		-	Fenerbahce      
Besiktas	-	Bursa
Genclerbirligi	-	Trabzon
Sariyer		-	Galatasaray

12.Hafta:(11/22)
--------
Trabzon		-	Karsiyaka
Fenerbahce	-	Besiktas	
Galatasaray	-	Kocaeli

13.Hafta:(11/29)
--------
Besiktas	-	Kocaeli
Genclerbirligi	-	Fenerbahce      
Kayseri		-	Trabzon
Konya		-	Galatasaray

14.Hafta:(12/6)	
--------
Trabzon		-	Bakirkoy
Fenerbahce	-	Karsiyaka       
Besiktas	-	Galatasaray	

15.Hafta:(12/20)
--------
Genclerbirligi	-	Besiktas
Kayseri		-	Fenerbahce      
Gaziantep	-	Trabzon
Galatasaray	-	Ankaragucu

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From: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.c
Subject: Give it up, hassan
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:51:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-1243v.32bis
Reply-To: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 

ulture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history

MP>> Drafted? Let's not use NewSpeak. Kidnapped is the right word.
HM>But why should one believe a self-admitted liar?

  There goes Mr Mutlu again, trying to gain sympathy by posting unbased and
tasteless personal attacks. In Mr Mutlu's world, everyone who does not
agree hith his peculiar ideas is a 'self-admitted liar', a 'moronian' and a
'certified criminal'. In his world, volumes of historical evidence,
congressional records, newspaper reports etc etc detailing the genocide of
Armenian civilians by the Turkish army are null and void. In his world
quotes from references can be altered and misrepresented to support obvious
falsehoods (see messages re: Men are like that).

  To this message, Mr Mutlu will, almost certainly, reply with another
meaningless personal remark, followed by one of the many 'source texts' that
are stored on his system, courtesy of the Turkish Ministry Of Thought. He will
then make some more generalized statements about Greek/Armenian etc etc
criminals, put some asterisks in front of the first three characters of my last
name, and close with the customary 'Kill all' quote that he so much enjoys.

  Mr Mutlu, you can save the wear and tear on the keyboard, because your
postings convince no-one. To my recent message re: Men are like that, I
received no less than 21 personal replies. 18 in support, 3 were neutral.
No-one came to your aid.

  Your credibility rating is 0, Mr Mutlu. Give it up, you are only making
a spectacle of yourself.

Michael.
---
 . SLMR 2.1a . I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it?
                                                                                                               
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From: ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: Where Does 'Tam*'s Frustration Stem From? Nightmarish Threat.
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:36:51 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu) writes:

><BsvwEB.HH9@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
>ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis )

>> By the way, today a different asshole is answering me.  Yo, scum, what
>> happened to yesterday's geek?  Its your turn eh?

>By the way, today Prof Shaw is answering your 'tamtams.'

   I knew it. However, I was wondering if one of the assholes who are
   using your accounts can verify the following:

   Mutlu is a clique of Turkish creeps and scums and geeks and jerks
   who are being paid by the Turkish goverment for doing propaganda.


>[47] Robert Mantran, 'La structure sociale de la communaute juive de
>  Salonqiue a la fin du dix-neuvieme siecle', RH no.534 (1980), 391-92;

 Speak French too, asshole? Then, please read and post for me pp. 58-59
 of the above ref.

 I said now!! Move your ass and do it. Or, I'll call your fat ugly president
 and report it to him.

>Hasan B-) Mutlu

 Panos Tamamidis 
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From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Subject: Re: SDPA Hypocrites
Organization: Enea Data AB
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 12:17:42 GMT

Sadi Turgut (sadi@physics3) writes:
> And the Muslims of Nagarno-Karabagh want to RETURN to their homeland. And
>they want to be able to LIVE in their homes.

How many persons are we talking about? How many Muslims were borned
in N-K but now live elsewhere? How many are they in comparison with
the Armenians living there today?
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
Life is wonderful when the wonderlife is full
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From: armagan@sassafras (Armagan Ozdinc)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Demostration in front of the White House (Re: AT's Head (UK)'s message to SERBS)
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:52:54 GMT
Reply-To: armagan@prc.unisys.com
Organization: Paramax Systems

In article <415@ub-tky.UBSPD.CO.JP>, tobac@ub-tky.UBSPD.CO.JP (Bach Frederic) writes:
|> In article <BstGy8.Hyo@ecf.toronto.edu> blazic@ecf.toronto.edu (BLAZIC Joseph R) writes:
|> 
|> Who gives a shit : stop the cross-postings (Please...)

The Bosnia crisis is all about the failure of the so-called New World Order.
Therefore, everyone from the different cultures should participate in those
discussions. Continue cross postings.......

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 ARMAGAN A. OZDINC
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.french,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.italian
From: luciano@athos.Berkeley.EDU (Luciano Lavagno)
Subject: Re: Hats off to Meggy
Followup-To: soc.culture.europe
Reply-To: luciano@athos.Berkeley.EDU (Luciano Lavagno)
Organization: UC Berkeley IC CAD Group
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:15:25 GMT

First of all, a note about cross-posting: the message originating this thread
was cross-posted (not by me...) to a lot of soc.culture newsgroups:
soc.culture.turkish, soc.culture.europe, soc.culture.yugoslavia,
soc.culture.greek, soc.culture.british, soc.culture.french, soc.culture.german,
soc.culture.italian.

Some people (namely Bach Frederic) objected to such a wide distribution.
I believe that all of the countries in the above list are involved in a
potential military intervention in the area, and the postings were specifically
about such intervention. So I don't think there should be any objection to the
posting.
In any case, to avoid receiving more abusive e-mail messages (and lengthy
postings, that just add to the noise), I redirected follow-ups to
soc.culture.europe, so this is my last cross-posting.

In article <1992Aug12.084226.19169@osf.org>, sp@mirabeau.osf.fr (Simon
Patience) writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.190126.25227@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>,
>luciano@athos.Berkeley.EDU (Luciano Lavagno) writes:
>> My point, which you did not seem to get, is that military intervention is
>NO
>> WAY to solve an ethnic problem. It has not worked historically and
>there is no
>> reason to hope it will work in this case.
>
>Perhaps you would be so kind to explain this to the IRA.

This is the usual point that comes up when there is a debate whether some
"official" entity (such as police, army, etc.) should use (more) violence
against some "illegal" entity (such as criminals, terrorists, etc.).
The claim is that the criminals are violent, so there is need for some violence
to stop them. 
While the claim may have some appeal, it seems that in general violence
generates more violence. So the "official" entity should use more restraint
than its "illegal" counterpart.
Moreover, there are certain legal limits that must NEVER be trespassed by
anybody who claims to represent "the people", as those same people would never
have given them the power to trespass those limits (see, for example, the
Iran-Contra affair in the US, or the various "deviations" of the secret
services in Italy to allegedly support neo-fascist groups).
So even if the IRA shoots and bombs indiscriminately, this is no justification
for the police or the army to do the same.
Ciao !
Luciano

-- 
Luciano Lavagno            luciano@ic.Berkeley.EDU            +1-510-642-5012
Dept. of EECS, 207-69 Cory Hall, Univ. of California, Berkeley, CA 94720, USA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.rights.human,soc.culture.iranian
From: brian@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Brian Paquet)
Subject: Re: Illegal activities by Zoro.Cis.Temple.Edu and Zaphiris Christidis
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:33:37 GMT

Comeon Cosar. If  Mutlu was hunted by those evil terrists
he would of been nailed ages ago.
He posts publicly. If he believed he was in any danger
he would find a way to post anonymously.
Anyway he is turkyre[is that how you spell it?]
greatest enemy. He is making a fool out
of himself. Gathering sympothy for the arminions
if anything they should give mutlu a medal

I mean this, if you don't have doubts as to what side
mutlu is really working on....

I FLEX IN YOUR GENERAL DIRECTION!!! :)
VOLCANO

Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.europe
From: euaaen@eua.ericsson.se (Anders Engwall)
Subject: Turkish film director (was: What kind of people are Turks?)
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 08:05:17 GMT

michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos)  writes:

> Anyone ever seen the turkish movie "The Wall?" (Duvar?).

Yep. Saw it when it made the cinema rounds. Must have been about 10
years ago.

>I am trying to
>remember who the director is, but he is a well-known Turk dissident.
>D***, I'm 100% sure I'll remember 10 seconds after I post this note.

I think his surname was Guney, but perhaps I'm confusing him with someone
else. The same director also made a another film before "The Wall".
Over here, that one was shown under its original title, "Yol". It's about
some inmates on temporary leave from prison.

>In
>any case, "The Wall" makes "Midnight Express" look like amateur hour. A
>Turkish slassmate of mine lend me his copy of the tape once. It is the
>true story of what happens behind Turkish prison walls, esp
>regarding political prisoners.

And some of the inmates were *children*.

--
Anders Engwall				Email: Anders.Engwall@eua.ericsson.se
ELLEMTEL Utvecklings AB			Voice: +46 8 727 3893
"Alvsj"o, Sweden			Fax: +46 8 727 42 20
		"Bryna nuppa fj{ssa sp}nken" - Razor
From: irfan@APOLLO.ECE.WISC.EDU (Irfan Alan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: KOCABAS kendine gel
Date: 21 Aug 92 23:19:18 GMT


  
>Where in the Quran it reads something like:  
  
>> whatever Allah SWA revealed to Moses (pbuh) as Torah  
>> and to Jesus (pbuh) as Injil did not remained same.   

You know what I want to mean in the above sentence.  
There is no need to behave like an idiot. 
Can you bring the Torah which Allah SWA revealed 
to Moses and read it to me, today.  You can not.
If you can, do it.  We are looking forward.

Of course, in the Levh-i Mahfuz, the Word of Allah is same 
and can not be changed as it is revealed to Moses (pbuh.)
We are not talking about Levh-i Mahfuz.  We are talking about
What happened to Torah on earth after it is revealed.  People
changed it, played with it to catch the fishes.  What you see
on the market place today is not Torah.  That is what we mean.
    
>where in the Quran the words of the God (Moses=Musa/Torah=Tevrat/  
>Jesus=Isa/Injil) are used something like you used them ?   
>WHERE ? WHERE ?

Idiot.  I did not make those changes.  For people whose native 
language is English, we want to speak to them with something
that they can understand.  The people of the book made those changes.
I am only trying to speak to them in their language.

You are not the only one whom that I address.  I do not think
even you are worth to address.  I am just trying to help people
in the network whose mind might be confused because of your interferences.
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From: yamen@cae.wisc.edu (Soner Yamen)
Subject: yardim
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 19 Aug 92 09:30:32 CDT

Selamlar,

Cornell University'ye gidecek bir arkadasin ilk birkac
gun icin yardima ihtiyaci var. Arkadas milli egitim
burslusu. Okul ve cevreyle ilgili biraz yardim edebilecek
birisi varsa, haberdar edebilirse cok memnun olurum.
Simdiden tesekkurler.

Cevabinizi lutfen yamen@cae.wisc.edu ya gonderin. Buraya
post etmek arkadaslarin zamanini israf etmek olur. :-)

Hurmetler,
-Soner

ek/ kavga mesaji olmadigi icin ozurlerimle. :-)


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From: ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis )
Subject: Re: Mr. Mutlu, what is your point?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:50:13 GMT

sadi@physics3 (Sadi Turgut) writes:

> "Sommar*" eh? This wild card character seems very familiar to me. Hmmm.
>Are you the one who writes Mutlu articles perhaps? There were some theories
>that Mutlu is in fact an Armenian provocateur, but it might even be a Greek
>provocateur. Oh. Now I understand the reason of your articles that seem like
>fuelling the discussions. You want to justify Mutlu's stay in USENET by
>directly attacking him, and of course you inderectly defend Mutlu on the
>other side. Because, you are the real Mutlu that we always thought a Turk!!!
> Now, I see. Especially, Greek government wants Turkey to be
>isolated among its neighbors. For this reason, Greece does not approve
>Turkish approach to Israel and the Greek government sent you an order
>to stir up anger among Jews against Turks. That is why you (i.e. Mutlu)
>post to scj. But, sir we won't fall prey to your heinous aims.

  When was the last time you visited your mental therapist?

> Barbaros Sadistic TURGut


-- 
---> Panos Tamamidis
     University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
From: HADCDJAC@admin.uh.edu (CARINI, JOHN A)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Should Hasan B Mutlu have his posting privileges yanked?
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:37:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: menudo.1992Aug20.133718.248
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1992Aug20.131430.1@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi> hellstro@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi writes:

> > Follow ups to soc.culture.turkish . The ***only*** newsgroup that
> > Hasan B Mutlu should be posting to.
> 
> I agree, but the newsgroup soc.culture.phenomena.boring
> should suit him as well.
> 
> _Jan_

  Yes, I agree with Jan-- Hasan Bey, your postings are becoming boring. Can't
  you start writing more about the what is going on in Turkey today and
  stop dwelling on the past? I particularly would welcome any news or info
  that would promote tourism to Turkey-- not discourage it. You are doing
  your government a great disservice-- Turkey is a fabulous place to visit
  and certainly could use those tourist dollars. I spent a year working in
  Diyabakir and must say that it was one of the best experiences of my life.
  I made many friends and curiously enough, none of them ever mentioned the
  genocide that you are so fond of boring us to death with.

  Lighten up a little bit will you! And stop posting your articles to 
  soc.culture.italian unless you have something interesting and relevant to 
  say.

  thanks,
  John
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe