HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: coffler@dbased.enet.dec.com (Jeff Coffler)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: News/UUCP possible from Windows NT?
Date: 6 Jan 93 16:28:51 GMT
Reply-To: coffler@dbased.enet.dec.com (Jeff Coffler)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua, NH


In a prior posting to this newsgroup, I requested information about C-News
under the Windows NT Operating System.  I just thought I'd follow up with my
posting.

Martin Calsyn (martin@iastate.edu) is in the process of porting INN to the
Windows NT platform.  This sounds like it'll provide everything that I will
need.

It'll supply bi-directional multi-modem UUCP capabilities, complete with the
basic routing that stand-alone systems need (to go to a smart host, usually).
There will also be C-News (or something close to it), except that you will
control it graphically rather than via editing of text files.

He's still working out the MAIL aspect (it depends if Microsoft will document
the MAIL API), but one way or another, expects MAIL functionality as well.  A
newsreader (trn-like, but with a GUI) will also be provided.

It's all being provided under shareware.  For me (I have a UNIX system at home
that serves as a UUCP site for USENET news and MAIL), it will fit the bill just
fine as long as it doesn't have problems receiving/sending a lot of data ...

I'm sure there'll be further postings here when it's available.  Martin said
that he expects FT-quality stuff in a month or so ...

	-- Jeff
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                {Disclaimer: What I say is my personal opinion}
From: tad@wrq.com (Tad Marshall)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Toshiba 3301 and Adaptec 1542b
Date: 12 Jan 93 00:19:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1it2q1INNcah
Organization: Walker Richer & Quinn, Inc., Seattle, WA
NNTP-Posting-Host: elmer.wrq.com

In article <1993Jan10.165204.355@csghsg5a.bitnet> msieber@csghsg5a.bitnet writes:
>TOSHIBA CD ROM 3301 with ADAPTEC 1542B
>======================================
>
>When I bought my Toshiba CD-ROM (3301), it was bundled
>with a future domain controller. However, I installed
>the Adaptec 1542B with my CD-ROM and it works fine 
>under Windows NT !
>Well when I tried to install the drivers for DOS, I
>couldn't find a driver for the CD ROM with the 
>Adaptec-Adapter. (If I had taken the FD, there would 
>have been a driver, but I took the Adaptec because
>of NT.)
>There must be other people with Toshibas (because of
>the SDK) that run them with an Adaptec, and even
>run it sometimes under DOS.
>
>Could anybody tell me, where I find those DOS-Drivers?
>
>	Martin Sieber

I'm using an Adaptec 1542B with a CD Technology drive which is the Toshiba
3301.  Works fine under both DOS and NT.

You need two Adaptec software packages that are available from Adaptec's
distributors:
  ASW-1410 -- ASPI drivers for DOS
  ASW-410  -- CD ROM ASPI drivers for several CDROM drives

My CONFIG.SYS has:
  device=c:\asw1410\aspi4dos.sys
  device=c:\asw410\aswcdtsh.sys /D:ASPICD0

My AUTOEXEC.BAT has:
  c:\dos\setver
  c:\asw410\mscdex /D:ASPICD0 /L:F /M:12 /V

The ASW-1410 package is included in the "kit" version of the 1542B (1542BK).
I beleive that ASW-410 must be purchased separately.

I don't know of any freeware/shareware that can be used for this purpose.

-- Tad
From: terence@tanru.tti.com ( Terry)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Can't share directories/printers in NT
Summary: ping is O.K.
Date: 24 Dec 92 23:07:09 GMT
Organization: Transaction Technology Inc.

I tried setting up two of our NT machines in a little network.
I got the TCP/IP stuff to work, I can ping both machines from each other, and
the share printer/disk options on the file/spool manager appear to function
right but the shared resources don't appear on the other machine.

Our setup;
  October Beta
  EISA 486 66 MHz clone
  32 MB RAM
  3Com Etherlink II/16

Any hints?

On a related note, I'm a little confused as to what networking is actually
included with this beta.  Is is just these client things (print/file
sharing) or can you really ftp and telnet or otherwise remote login between
two NT machines?


Thanks,

Terry (terence@soldev.tti.com)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: smithb@cognos.com (Brad Smith)
Subject: Re: ATI VGA Wonder+ Driver for Windows NT
Organization: Cognos Incorporated, Ottawa CANADA
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:09:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.021928.6824@e2big.mko.dec.com> wales@ringss.enet.dec.com writes:
>	Note that you can use the VGA Wonder+ with Windows NT in standard VGA
>resolution.   One other problem is that the mouse port on the card is not
>recognised.   I hope they get that sorted out soon as, to me, getting my mouse
>working is more important than high-res at the moment.

Odd, NT has no problem with the mouse port on my WonderXL card. I have my mouse
set to IRQ5. I wonder if that makes a difference. Perhaps you want to play with
this a bit more. :-)

Brad.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Subject: Re: FTP bug
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16g by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Organization: Techn. Univ. Clausthal
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:48:05 GMT

In <1992Dec22.214705.23202@watson.ibm.com> oleg@watson.ibm.com (Oleg Vishnepolsky) writes:
>
>If I do FTP put of a large file from a LAN-mounted drive, FTP traps.
>It seems to work on small files.
>

I made some tests yesterday and it didn't work with small files (2 kB)
either. FTP traps with a memory access violation on ES:00000001 with
a rep movsd instruction.

Christoph
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: robertre@microsoft.com (Robert Reichel ms2)
Subject: Re: convert documentation
Date: 07 Jan 93 00:30:19 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

In article <1993Jan5.171816.4229@berlioz.nsc.com> mcdan@berlioz.nsc.com (Eric McDaniel) writes:
>
>Another question regarding converting a partition to NTFS:
>
>I have one physical drive with DOS installed on the C:
>partition and Windows NT installed on the D: partition.  I
>have successfully converted the D: partition to NTFS, but
>after doing so can't boot DOS -- it just hangs up.
>
>Is it possible to read an NTFS partition using DOS?  Actually
>I would settle for just being able to boot DOS again, even if
>it ignores the NTFS partition.

This is exactly the setup I have on my home machine, and it
works fine.  DOS knows that the D: disk is there, but it doesn't
try to do anything with it.

I'm not sure what the problem is.  You might want to try making
a no-frills minimal boot floppy and start with that, and then
add stuff to config.sys and autoexec.bat until you track down.
You might find that something is referencing the disk for some
reason.
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* "Not even close to being a Microsoft spokesbeing"
* Robert Reichel (robertre@microsoft.com)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: kemnitz@netcom.com (Greg Kemnitz)
Subject: Re: News/UUCP possible from Windows NT?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:06:00 GMT

A few more questions on this vein:

1.  Is anyone working on a version of Sendmail to go with UUCP on NT?  Is
    "MAIL" referred to in this thread Sendmail or some other mail scheme?

    (I'd love to just use some of the Unix PD mail readers like MH on NT if
    I can).

    This question is pretty important since I am buying a machine to run NT and
    would also like to have this machine be my news and mail server, since it
    needs lots of oomph anyway :-)

2.  How about Internet-style domain names, etc?  (If Sendmail works, this
    is probably a given).  My machine currently has a registered
    Internet-style domain name, and I'd like to keep it under NT.

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From: yaronf@ilx057.intel.com (Farber Yaron)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: NFS client software on NT
Date: 6 Jan 93 07:31:48 GMT
Organization: Intel Israel (74)
NNTP-Posting-Host: ilx057.intel.com

Hi,
I have this pile of software lying on an NFS server, which I would
like to access from NT. Has anybody got NFS software for NT? I
contacted Joe L'Italien at NetManage (jsl@netman-gate.NETMANAGE.COM),
who said they are working on an NFS *server* (which would be an
overkill) but don't have it yet.

Any info out there?

Thanks in advance,

	Yaron Farber

============================================================================
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mail stop: IDC2-30    tel: +972-4-355759                  fax: +972-4-355674  
============================================================================
From: msieber@csghsg5a.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Toshiba 3301 and Adaptec 1542b
Date: 10 Jan 93 16:52:04 GMT
Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland

TOSHIBA CD ROM 3301 with ADAPTEC 1542B
======================================

When I bought my Toshiba CD-ROM (3301), it was bundled
with a future domain controller. However, I installed
the Adaptec 1542B with my CD-ROM and it works fine 
under Windows NT !
Well when I tried to install the drivers for DOS, I
couldn't find a driver for the CD ROM with the 
Adaptec-Adapter. (If I had taken the FD, there would 
have been a driver, but I took the Adaptec because
of NT.)
There must be other people with Toshibas (because of
the SDK) that run them with an Adaptec, and even
run it sometimes under DOS.

Could anybody tell me, where I find those DOS-Drivers?

	Martin Sieber

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32,comp.os.os2,comp.os.os2.programmer
From: sasjrm@beatle.unx.sas.com (Jeff McDermott)
Subject:  os/2 2.0 and windows nt on single pc
Originator: sasjrm@beatle.unx.sas.com
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:51:57 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


It appears that NT flexboot does not support os/2 2.x as a
partition.  

Currently os/2 2.0's multiboot does not recognize NT as a
partition either.  

the only way the 2 can coexist on a pc is through os/2's
dual boot feature.  

does anyone know whether os/2 2.01 will support an nt 
partition via multiboot?

does anyone know whether production nt will support an os/2 2.x
partition via flexboot?

thanx for any replies.

sasjrm@unx.sas.com
From: tad@wrq.com (Tad Marshall)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Fatal Error 0x00000069
Date: 13 Jan 93 02:48:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1ivvumINNstp
Organization: Walker Richer & Quinn, Inc., Seattle, WA
NNTP-Posting-Host: elmer.wrq.com

In article <1993Jan12.170053.10279@news.duc.auburn.edu> swhall@eng.auburn.edu writes:
>
> I know I saw something a while back about this error, but I can't find it,
> and I am getting this error when trying to load NT.  Could someone help me
> please!!

Fatal System Error 0x69 means that NT isn't managing to start your disk driver.
It could be any of several things, unsupported controller, IRQ conflict,
missing disk driver, ...  CompuServe's WINNT forum is the best place to ask
this, but you could post your system configuration here and see if anyone here
knows what might be wrong.

-- Tad
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: saswta@terrapin.unx.sas.com (Bill Arnette)
Subject: Determining path of loaded DLL from debugging process
Originator: saswta@terrapin.unx.sas.com
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:13:50 GMT
Organization: The Village


I am writing a cross-environment debugger for Windows NT.  When a DLL is loaded
by the process being debugged, the kernel is notified via a LOAD_DLL_DEBUG_EVENT 
which includes, among other information, an open file handle for the DLL file.
I need to know the fully qualified path from which the DLL was loaded.  Does
anybody know how I can get the path name of the loaded DLL, or failing that, know
how I can determine the name of a file given a file handle?

Thanks in advance,
Bill
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From: mcdan@berlioz.nsc.com (Eric McDaniel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Registry woes
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:22:16 GMT
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation, Santa Clara

In article <1ig3a2INN9ql@shelley.u.washington.edu> tad@wrq.com (Tad Marshall) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.183252.3612@berlioz.nsc.com> mcdan@berlioz.nsc.com (Eric McDaniel) writes:
>>I'm having a problem making changes to the registry on my machine.
>>I can log in as administrator and use regedit to make changes, but
>>when I reboot all the changes are gone.  I've tried to change
>>permissions, add & delete keys, add and delete values -- nothing
>>seems to persist across reboots.
>
>The MACHINE section of the registry is rebuilt on each reboot.  It is supposed
>to contain current actually found stuff, rather than configuration info.
>
>Which sections are you editing?
>

Of course, I should have mentioned this in my original post.  I am trying
to add keys and values to the
          "\Registry\Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Services"
branch which, according to the documentation I can find, should remember
my changes (which it does, on my other machine).

Any other suggestions?
From: jts1@harvey.gte.com (James Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: NT C compiler
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:45:46 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories

In article <1993Jan11.145017.5606@solaris.rz.tu-clausthal.de> hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter) writes:
>In <5293@ceylon.gte.com> jts1@harvey.gte.com (James Smith) writes:
>>From the company Phar Lap you can get QuickStart 2.0 (FOR FREE!!!),which
>>will permit one to use the Windows NT tools (C++, etc.) and the WIN32s
>>libraries to generate 32-bit Windows 3.1 applications!  Later, one can
>>compile & link with the WIN32 for NT.
>>
>>Phar Lap
>>60 Aberdeen Ave.
>>Cambridge, MA 02138
>>617-661-1510
>>617-876-2972 FAX
>
>The product is FREE?! Great to hear that. Is there a chance to get it
>via anonymous ftp from anywhere?
>
>Christoph
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>Christoph H. Hochstaetter, Philipps-University Marburg | Universitaetsstr. 25
>Internet: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de       | D-W-3550 Marburg
>Bitnet  : HOCHSTAE AT DMRHRZ11                         | Germany
>Fido    : 2:243/660                                    | Phone +49-6421-28-7092
>Fax     : +49-6421-28-4858                             |

The internet addresses of PharLap are:

sales@pharlap.com
tech-support@pharlap.com

By the way, they cannot directly access this news group.

Hope this helps everyone.
From: tad@wrq.com (Tad Marshall)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Supported tape drives
Date: 8 Jan 1993 19:24:30 GMT
Organization: Walker Richer & Quinn, Inc., Seattle, WA
NNTP-Posting-Host: elmer.wrq.com
Keywords: Tape DAT

In <1993Jan6.162216.8458@dbased.nuo.dec.com> coffler@dbased.enet.dec.com (Jeff Coffler) writes:
>I note that the supported hardware list only shows one tape drive (a DAT
>drive) for SCSI tape backup.

The latest hardware compatibility list (1292hw.txt, 1292hw.doc) lists three:
  Archive Python DAT (Maynstream 1300DAT)
  Hewlett-Packard JetStor 2000 (HP 35470A)
  Hewlett-Packard JetStor 5000 (HP 35480A)

-- Tad
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: zureick@utasys.uta.edu (Rami Zureick)
Subject: Re: Borland TDW & Graphics Accelerators (S3)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:12:00 GMT

In article <43058@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, pluto@cs.ucsd.edu (Mark Plutowksi) writes...
>pluto@cs.ucsd.edu (Mark Plutowksi) writes:
> 
>>dale@odetics.com (Dale Pischke) writes:
> 
>>>Hello, just tried Borland's TDW with my new Diamond SpeedStar 24X board,
>>>and TDW totally mangles the video in Windows. I assume it is because
>>>TDW is not 'S3 aware'.
> 
>>If this isn't an FAQ it should be. Where do I find the FAQ for 
>>this group anyway??? I'm not at my PC right now so I can't repost
>>the solution  that I posted some while back, and since I don't know
>>where the F'ing FAQ is I can't tell you whether it's in there..
>>If you can wait half a day I can repost it when I get home,
>>in the mean time maybe somebody else will respond.
> 
> 
>First, get the new s3.dll, from Borland's bbs, either their own,
>or the one on Compuserve (it may be elsewhere also.)

It would be very handy to many of us to have those files uploaded to one 
of the FTP sites such as CICA.

                                                - Rami
From: Greg.Reinacker@FtCollins.NCR.COM
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Re: Borland TDW & Graphics Accelerators (S3)
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:22:07 GMT
	<43058@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>
Reply-To: Greg.Reinacker@FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM
Organization: NCR Microelectronics, Ft. Collins, CO
In-reply-to: pluto@cs.ucsd.edu's message of 5 Jan 93 17:18:00 GMT

>>Hello, just tried Borland's TDW with my new Diamond SpeedStar 24X board,
>>and TDW totally mangles the video in Windows. I assume it is because
>>TDW is not 'S3 aware'.

Keep in mind that the Diamond SpeedStar 24X is NOT an S3 board...it uses
a Western Digital accelerator chip.

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From: pebo@sunatb.UUCP (Peter Bodifee)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Re: How to print bitmaps from clipboard?
Keywords: print bitmaps
Date: 4 Jan 93 09:12:58 GMT
Reply-To: pebo@sunatb.atb.bso.nl
Organization: BSO/Automation Technology Breda B.V., The Netherlands

SUMMARY

Below are the reactions on my request how to print screen dumps on a postscript
printer. Thank you for your help. Somebody here gave me a pointer to a
shareware program "WinGIF" (from SuperSet Software Corp.) which can apart
from a lot more also paste the clipboard and print it.
The time consuming part with printing on a postscript printer can not be
avoided (I think ...)
-----
From: dbstrutt@acs.ucalgary.ca (David Strutt)

Regarding your request for help in printing a screen dumped to
the clipboard, try going into paintbrush and pasting the contents
of the clipboard into there. Paintbrush will allow you to print
out whatever you pasted, using whatever printer you have set up
under Print Manager.
-----
From: gfowler@javelin.sim.es.com (Gary Fowler)

You can also paste it into Paintbrush and print it from there, but I don't
think it would be much quicker.  It may be worth a try though.
-----
From: chris@chrism.demon.co.uk (Chris Marriott)

The simplest way is to paste the clipboard image into PaintBrush, and
print from there.  In order to get the whole image into PaintBrush,
do the following:

1.  Select "Zoom Out" from PaintBrush.
2.  Select Edit/Paste - a cross-hatch grid will appear.
3.  Select Edit/Paste *again* - the picture will appear.
4.  Select "Zoom In".
5.  Print

Note that you have to Paste *twice*!
-----
From: charvel@salzo.Cary.NC.US (Jeff Cogswell)

I use a postscript printer at work, and have found that it's
a ROYAL PAIN to print bitmapped images.  The problem is that
Postscript is vector-based, much like CorelDRAW, so apparantly
the individual pixels have to be converted to individual
Postscript commands.  I know nothing about your printer, but
my HP Laserjet can be switched out of laserjet, and then I
can just dump a straight bitmap, greatly speeding up the
process.  Of course, I have to switch printers from inside
Windows, too.

If I *do* print a bitmap in Postscript, though, it takes
about as long as you described, and I do it the same way,
by sucking the clipboard into another graphics program.
(I use either CorelDRAW or the shareware program
PaintShop Pro.)
------
From: wkay@vlsi21.gsfc.nasa.gov (Kevin Kay)

Just curious, but have you tried a screen grabbing utility called
"Grabit."  It's available on ftp.cica.indiana.edu and does a pretty
good job.  Anything you can get on the screen, you can print...
The printing performance (speedwise) is not spectacular, but the
author claims that the speed hit is by design.  He claims to give
you extensive algorithms for handling various colors/grays
etc...

Just a thought, maybe it could save you a few headaches.....

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: byu@sys.toronto.edu (Benjamin Yu)
Subject: Object-Vision Demo
Organization: University of Toronto
Date: 11 Jan 93 13:34:40 GMT

I seem to recall there was a software demo of Object Vision.  I can't
find it in any site.  Can anyone please help me out by pointing to
a FTP site or email to me?  Thanks!

Benjamin Yu
byu@sys.toronto.edu
From: galenr@hpgrla.gr.hp.com (Galen Raben)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:28:16 GMT
Subject: VB 2.0 - using the clipboard?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Greeley, CO
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools


Another question, this time with copying things to the clipboard with VB 2.0...

On my form I have a picture control "Pic1" with a control array of image 
controls within "MyIcons()".  Pic1 has a background bmp loaded and each
image control of the MyIcons control array have individual icon loaded.
The individual MyIcons controls are moved around at runtime by the program.

What I am trying to do is copy the resulting graphic to the clipboard.
Problem is I can't get the image controls to copy as well.

Sub mnuCopy_Click
   Clipboard.Clear
   Clipboard.Setdata  ActiveForm.Pic1.Picture
End Sub

Gets the background bitmap ok but no image control icons (note: this is an
MDI child window - is why I use ActiveForm...  shouldn't make a difference
for purposes of what I'm asking though)

I also tried 
   Clipboard.Setdata ActiveForm.MyIcon(I%).picture  (with a for/next loop)
and
   Clipboard.Setdata ActiveControl.picture
but VB says that the format is invalid in the first case and grabs 
the background bitmap in the second case...

What Gives???

Does the clipboard object require that the image I'm trying to grab come
from an object with an autorefresh property?  (Image controls don't have
an autorefresh property).  I can't find any references in the manual or
online help on copying image controls.... (just some stuff in the chapter
on printing that suggests autorefresh must be true to print graphics...)

Thanks again!!!!!
- Galen -
galenr@hpgrla.gr.hp.com