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From: ajayshah@alhena.usc.edu (Ajay Shah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: New viking sparc processor?
Date: 6 Apr 1992 18:56:31 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: alhena.usc.edu

sblair@upurbmw.dell.com (Steven C. Blair "Unix Network Services") writes:

>bzzt, but thanks for playing. you really shot yourself, because the disks
  (Could we avoid americanisms like "bzzzt" on the net?)
>in MANY workstations, as well as PC's are the same ones. From the same
>vendors. Gee, that means that there is the potential for them to run
>at the same rate. 
Potential is right.  The determinant of disk throughput is the disk
controller and the bus.  PCs are a joke on these fronts, esp. on the bus.
Even EISA is a incremental improvement on the AT bus (why call it something
grand like ISA?????).

>my opinions, I just keep lotsa things running around here. Please *
>*DON'T CONTINUES THIS DISCUSSION HERE*.
Why?  Most Sun users want to be aware of the Sun vs. 486 choice.

-- 

Ajay Shah, (213)749-8133, ajayshah@usc.edu
From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: OW3.0 - spider program
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:14:11 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <1992Apr11.100420.28865@ukw.uucp> lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph) writes:
<se@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Steve Elliott) writes:
<
<>In the demo directory of OW 3.0 there is a program
<>called spider.
<>It is a card game for one, using 2 packs.
<>Can anyone enlighten me with the rules of this game?
<>I've managed a score of 257 out of 1000 without
<>knowing how I did it!
<
<I suggest you use the "Help" button, the second button
<from the right. It will pop up a window with buttons
<for all the help sections.

Under OW2.0 that button was grayed out.  Now what?
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From: se@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Steve Elliott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: OW3.0 - spider program
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:33:44 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

In the demo directory of OW 3.0 there is a program
called spider.
It is a card game for one, using 2 packs.
Can anyone enlighten me with the rules of this game?
I've managed a score of 257 out of 1000 without
knowing how I did it!

Steve
-- 
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Department of Computing, Engineering Building, 
University of Lancaster, Bailrigg, Lancaster, LA1 4YR, UK
PHONE: +44 524 65201 ext 3783.
From: cjdb@ellis.uchicago.edu (Charles Blair)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: eeprom and 4.1.2
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:39:49 GMT
Reply-To: cjdb@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: The University of Chicago


I can't seem to change the prom password using the eeprom application
that was distributed with 4.1.2; the option is described in the man
page, but isn't accepted by the application. Have I missed something?

If what I've missed is a posting already describing the problem, then
my apologies; I don't normally read this group.

Please respond via e-mail; thanks.


-- 
People who are easily shocked ... should be shocked more often. -- Mae West

Internet: chas@uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: shingo@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Shingo Watada)
Subject: cc -O3 doesn't work well(SunOS4.1.1)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 21:44:59 GMT

I have a problem with the following program.
When I compile it with 'cc -O2' it works as it is expeced but
not with 'cc -O3'. Our OS is SunOS4.1.1. Should not I compile it
with 'cc -O3'? If not, then why? 

/*
cc -O2 and cc -O3
*/ 
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
typedef struct {double re,im} dcomplex;
dcomplex dcmk();
main()
{
	int i,j;
	double d;

	dcomplex *f;
	f=(dcomplex *)malloc(sizeof(dcomplex)*2);
	for(i=0;i<2;i++)
	{
		f[i]=dcmk(i*1.0,i*2.0);
		printf("%d %f %f\n",i,f[i].re,f[i].im);
	}
}
dcomplex dcmk(a,b)
	double a,b;
{
	dcomplex c;
	c.re = a; c.im = b;
	return c;
}

shingo watada
shingo@seismo.gps.caltehc.edu
-- 
shingo watada
shingo@seismo.gps.caltech.edu
From: rbg@solar.nova.edu (Bob Goldfarb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Soft/background NFS mounts
Summary: What is soft or background NFS mount?
Keywords: nfs mount
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:49:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: solar.rbg.702575354

I think I am misunderstanding the concept of soft and background NFS
mounts in SunOS 4.1.1. The manual seems quite terse on the matter.

Here's what I am trying to do: have an NFS mount sun-to-sun.  If the
server is down while the client is attempting to mount, the client's
mount request is placed in background and the system continues on with
its business (this is especially nice during boot). Perhaps after a
period of time, mount would give up and syslogd would log the error,
and maybe a mail message would be sent to root.

If a server goes down while the client is mounted and a client user
tries to access the mount point, he/she would get some time of error
message and would be allowed to continue as if the referenced
file/directory did not exist. And like above, syslogd would log the
error, and maybe a mail message would be sent to root.

I am using SunOS 4.1.1 on both machines and have attempted soft and bg
mounts but mounts and accesses to downed server cause the clients
terminal session to hang until ^C.

-- 


==================================

Bob Goldfarb (rbg@nova.edu)     Sun Systems Administrator
Nova University                 Fort Lauderdale, FL
(305)452-1590
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: mario@wdcsps.mot.com (Mario Nigrovic)
Subject: olwm.DefaultIconMask, transparent colors
Organization: Motorola Western MCU Design Center, Chandler Arizona
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:51:39 GMT
Originator: usenet@nddsun1

Is there any way to make the background
color of an icon be transparent?
Currently, all the icons I've seen are
64x64 and cover the background
no matter what I've tried.

I noticed that there is an olwm resource
called DefaultIconMask, but I
can't find any information about what
this means.

Please e-mail directly to me and if
there's interest, I'll summarize...

							Mario

Mario Nigrovic <mario@wdc.sps.mot.com>	
voice: (602) 821-4264
Motorola Western MCU Design Center		fax:
(602) 821-4058
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 09:12:02 MST
From: <IACSP1@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject:    Flight Simulator.

Hi,
Is there a free ware version of the flight simulator for the SUN?

Thanks in advance,
Sridhar M Rajagopal.

rajagopa@enws202.cim.eas.asu.edu
From: exudnw@exu.ericsson.se (Dave Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: can your 486 do this? (New viking sparc processor)
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:14:54 GMT
Reply-To: exudnw@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems

In article 2426@crd.ge.com, davidsen@yeti.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen) writes:
>In article <SIMON.92Apr13163951@liasg2.epfl.ch>, simon@lia.di.epfl.ch (Simon Leinen) writes:
>
>|  Just another data point:
>|  
>|  Sun 4/470, VMEbus, Sabre 1GB IPI disk, moderate NFS load
>|  real time: 4.7 seconds
>
>Sun 670MP, light load, whatever 1.3GB drives Sun supplies:
>
>  ausable# time dd bs=10240k count=1 if=/dev/sd0g of=/dev/null
>  1+0 records in
>  1+0 records out
>  0.0u 3.6s 0:03 97% 0+4576k 186+2io 186pf+0w
>  ausable# uptime
>    9:33am  up  1:35,  2 users,  load average: 0.29, 0.12, 0.00
>  ausable#
>
>I'm impressed... I think this box has 64MB, may have more. It will
>eventually have a LOT of users getting files via NFS, right now it makes
>a spiffy workstation for the impatient! That's 2.778 kbs.

Y.A.D.P. (Yet Another Data Point):

Sun 4/690MP 4cpu light load, 8 Seagate Elite IPI`s on 2 IPI controllers.

bigun# time dd bs=10240k count=1 if=/dev/id001d of=/dev/null
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
0.0u 4.0s 0:04 95% 0+4488k 185+2io 184pf+0w
bigun# uptime
  8:05pm  up 6 days,  5:20,  0 user,  load average: 0.10, 0.02, 0.00
bigun# 


---
= exudnw@exu.ericsson.se                                                =
= David Williams              "You can't win, you can't break even,     =
= Ericsson Network Systems     and you can't quit"                      =
= Richardson, TX 75081                                  my opinions...  =
From: mwette@csi.jpl.nasa.gov (Matt Wette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Annoying SunView Cursor Problem.
Date: 12 Apr 92 23:03:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Originator: mwette@mr-ed


In article <1992Apr11.210835.3376@osc.edu>, spencer@nigel.cgrg.ohio-state.edu (Stephen Spencer) writes:
|> I've got a SPARC 2 clone, with the Sun cgsix color board in it.
|> When I run SunView, then exit Sunview, the black SunView arrow cursor stays
|> behind in the last mouse location before SunView quit.  (The *image* of the
|> cursor, that is.)  

run gxcursor after you exit.

/* gxcursor.c - disable GX cursor for SunOS 4.1 systems with GX boards
 *
 * This source came in text form with the OpenWindows 2.0 release.
 * compile with: cc -O -o gxcursor gxcursor.c -lpixrect
 */
#include <stdio.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/ioctl.h>
#include <sun/fbio.h>
#include <pixrect/pixrect.h>
#include <pixrect/memvar.h>

struct cg6pr {
    struct mprp_data  mprp;
    int fd;
    struct pr_size c6_size;
    caddr_t cg6_fbc;
    caddr_t cg6_tec;
};

#define THCOFFSET (5 * 4096)
#define THC_CURSOR 0x8FC

main(argc, argv)
int argc;
char *argv[];
{
    char *dev = argc > 1 ? argv[1] : "/dev/fb";
    int fd;
    struct fbgattr fbattr;
    Pixrect *pr;

    if ((fd = open(dev, 2, 0)) < 0)
	perror(dev);
    if (ioctl(fd, FBIOGATTR, &fbattr) < 0 ||
	    fbattr.fbtype.fb_type != FBTYPE_SUNFAST_COLOR)
	fprintf(stderr, "gxcursor: device %s is not a GX frame buffer\n", dev);

    (void) close(fd);

    if ((pr = pr_open(dev)) == 0)
	fprintf(stderr, "gxcursor: pixrect open failed for %s\n", dev);

    *(int *) (((struct cg6pr *) pr->pr_data)->cg6_fbc +
	    THCOFFSET + THC_CURSOR) = 0xffe0ffe0;

    exit(0);
}

/* --- last line of gxcursor.c --- */

-- 
mwette@csi.jpl.nasa.gov
From: davidsen@yeti.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: New viking sparc processor?
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:38:15 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <SIMON.92Apr13163951@liasg2.epfl.ch>, simon@lia.di.epfl.ch (Simon Leinen) writes:

|  Just another data point:
|  
|  Sun 4/470, VMEbus, Sabre 1GB IPI disk, moderate NFS load
|  real time: 4.7 seconds

Sun 670MP, light load, whatever 1.3GB drives Sun supplies:

  ausable# time dd bs=10240k count=1 if=/dev/sd0g of=/dev/null
  1+0 records in
  1+0 records out
  0.0u 3.6s 0:03 97% 0+4576k 186+2io 186pf+0w
  ausable# uptime
    9:33am  up  1:35,  2 users,  load average: 0.29, 0.12, 0.00
  ausable#

I'm impressed... I think this box has 64MB, may have more. It will
eventually have a LOT of users getting files via NFS, right now it makes
a spiffy workstation for the impatient! That's 2.778 kbs.
-- 
	- bill davidsen (davidsen@crd.ge.com)
	GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
By analysis of usenet source, the hardest part of C to use is the comment
From: thad@public.BTR.COM (Thaddeus P. Floryan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Xt programming, moving code from 3/60 to 4/x
Date: 12 Apr 92 06:58:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, Mountain View CA

In article <65217@apple.Apple.COM> may@Apple.COM (Patrick May) writes:
>     I have a potential client who wants me to write an Xt program that
>can be run from a shelltool window.  First off, should this be a problem?
>
>     Being a frugal, not-currently-cash-flush, independent, I'd like to
>do this development on the least expensive Sun machine possible.  Is there
>any problem with doing the development on a 3/60 (with, I guess, SunOS
>4.0.3) and then moving the code to a 4/330 (I think)?  Can X11.R5 run
>under SunOS 4.0.3?  Am I asking the wrong questions?  Am I asking for
>trouble?

Nope, no trouble.

But, you can have SunOS 4.1.1 on a 3/60, and commercial apps (at my company)
compile nicely on Sun-4 and Sun-3 systems from the same sources (and they
WORK on both system-types, too! :-)

Given the street prices of 3/60 systems nowadays, this seems a reasonable
solution given your stated financial situation.

X11R5 runs just fine with SunOS 4.1.1 on a 3/60; don't know about 4.0.3.

Two suggestions: make sure you get at least 16MB RAM on the 3/60, and be
sure you get and/or plan for a QIC-150 tape drive so you can physically
move your software between the distant systems.

Would also recommend >= 300MB HD(s).

Since your email address "suggests" you're in Silicon Valley, feel welcome
to attend the AT&T UNIX Users' Group meetings the 4th Wednesday each month
at the AT&T complex in Sunnyvale; a lot of attendees own Sun systems, too,
as home computers, and about 1/4 the hardware/software questions answered
are Sun-related nowadays.  Meeting notices and locations are posted to
several newsgroups and also appear in the COMPUTING CALENDAR of the Sunday
San Jose Mercury News (in the separate COMPUTING section).

Thad Floryan [ thad@btr.com (OR) {decwrl, mips, fernwood}!btr!thad ]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: wolfgang@wsrcc.com (Wolfgang S. Rupprecht)
Subject: Re: New viking sparc processor?
Organization: W S Rupprecht Computer Consulting, Fremont CA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 21:13:31 GMT

sblair@upurbmw.dell.com (Steven C. Blair "Unix Network Services") writes:
>In article <1901@ra.nrl.navy.mil>, tse@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Anthony Tse) writes:
>[ irrelevant stuff delted for net.bandwidth ]
>>    The issue is not moot, it's extremely important.
>'specially if one uses facts, which I don't believe you're quite informed on
>>    Any real operating system is going to live or die by the disk
>> transfer rate.  Even with a super cache controller card, the PC
>> disk transfer rate can at best be about 1/5 as fast as the Sparc. I 
>> don't care how fast the 586 is, PC will still be a piece of sh*t unless
>> they do something about their bus.

>bzzt, but thanks for playing. you really shot yourself, because the disks
>in MANY workstations, as well as PC's are the same ones. From the same
>vendors. 

Just because you slap a good disk in crappy hardware doesn't mean the
results will be the same.

All the tests I've seen show the PC's I/O running at a significantly
slower I/O rate.  How many KB/sec to/from the disk does your PC do?

    # time dd if=/dev/rsd0b of=/dev/null bs=10240k count=1
    1+0 records in
    1+0 records out
	   10.5 real         0.0 user         2.2 sys  

Thats ~1 Megabyte per second on a lowly SLC w. a 766 Meg Seagate WREN.
Care to do the same for a Dell running the same or similar disk?

-wolfgang
-- 
Wolfgang Rupprecht    wolfgang@wsrcc.com (or) wsrcc!wolfgang
Snail Mail:           39469 Gallaudet Drive, Fremont, CA 94538-4511
From: mahesh@amnese.eng.uab.edu (B.G. Mahesh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Sun User Group : is it worth being a member ?
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:58:44 GMT
Reply-To: mahesh@amnese.eng.uab.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Alabama at Birmingham
Originator: mahesh@amnese.eng.uab.edu

I would like to know if it is worth becoming a member
of Sun User Group. Could someone highlight the + and -
points of SUG ? Please respond by email.


thanks,

-- 
B.G. MAHESH                           | Internet : mahesh@amnese.eng.uab.edu 
University of Alabama at Birmingham   |
From: rrybacki@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Richard M. Rybacki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: SunOS internals question
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:13:28 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

I have noticed that if I have a program running, and the program is IO blocked,
and I recompile/relink the executable, the program will crash as soon as the
process unblocks and reaquires the CPU.  

It would appear that SunOS (4.1.1) does not copy the executable into swap
space at startup time, otherwise why would it make a difference if the 
executable is replaced?

Anybody have any thoughts on this?
-- 
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rrybacki@ringer.cs.utsa.edu   |    #include <stdisclmr.h> /* More like it! */
From: dj@godot.mm-world (DJ Walker-Morgan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: SCO SYSV386 3.2r2.0 ODT 1.1 80486-33 ou
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:52:38 GMT
Reply-To: dj@godot.mm-world
Organization: MicroMuse - The SPARC dudes

In article 20392@ukw.uucp, lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph) writes:
>burton@asdsun.larc.nasa.gov (John Burton) writes:
>
>I would count the ELC as third generation desktop,
>fourth generation total SPARC. The lines above
>delineate my idea of SPARC generations. Actually
>the SS1+ is in the same generation as the SS1,
>being just a fast clocked variant of that machine.
>
>Anybody with a better memory or a timetable want to
>correct this ?

Well, it is worth referring to the clock rates and processors. The SS2 was pre the
ELC. The SS2 clocks at 40Mhz. The ELC clocks in at 33Mhz using the Weitek SPARC chipset.

BTW, it's *not* the 4/6xx range, it's the 600MP series. Sun have dropped the 4/
prefix.

BTW2, The SS1+ amongst other things had all the really narly bits of it's 
implementation tidied up, probably the most important thing about the SS1vsSS1+.

 
---

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From: delbaeth@cqs.washington.edu (Robert Christ)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: dialupip2.0
Summary: getting started on sparc2, sunos4.1.1b
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:18:01 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

Hello, 

I have just grabbed a copy of the sources to dialupip2.0
and am trying to configure it for a Sparc2 running Sunos 4.1.1b.
The docs I have cover installation on a Sun running 3.5.  
The problems I have occur during kernel configuration.  The 
installation manual calls for a modification to the /sys/sys/tty_conf.c
file.  This doesn't appear to exist anywhere in the /sys hierarchy.
Is there a new file I should be modifying or is there a way around
this?  The exact instructions are:

>Put this before the LINESW variable:
>#include "du.h"
>#if NDU > 0
>int dutopen(), dutclose(), dutinput(), dutioctl(), dutstart(), dutmodem();
>#endif
>
>------------------------------
>Put this in an empty slot in the LINESW variable.  Note the slot number,
>shown below as 8:
>#if NDU > 0
>	dutopen, dutclose, nodev, nodev, dutioctl,
>	dutinput, nodev, nulldev, dutstart, dutmodem,	/* 8 DUDISC */
>#else
>	nodev, nodev, nodev, nodev, nodev,
>	nodev, nodev, nodev, nodev, nodev,
>#endif


Any help would be appreciated.
  rob
From: garnett@cs.utexas.edu (John William Garnett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: FIONBIO: ioctl(s,FIONBIO,&tmp) vs. fcntl(s, F_SETFL, FNDELAY)
Date: 16 Apr 1992 14:43:51 -0500
Organization: University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: nada.cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: FIONBIO ioctl non-blocking

Some sun programs use the FIONBIO ioctl and others use fcntl F_SETFL
FNDELAY to do the same thing.  The problem is sometimes one of these
methods works and the other doesn't.  Both lines will compile but
one will usually generate a runtime error (unsupported ioctl on device).

My question is: is there any way to #ifdef the code so that the right
method is chosen automatically?  It would be nice to know what is different
between a Sun that likes one method and a Sun that likes the other.
Open to any suggestions on this.  Please respond via email.

--John Garnett
-- 
John Garnett
                                           University of Texas at Austin
garnett@cs.utexas.edu                      Department of Computer Science
garnett@gestalt.austin.tx.us (NeXT Mail)   Austin, Texas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: shingo@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Shingo Watada)
Subject: cc -O3 doesn't work well(SunOS4.1.1)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:10:50 GMT

I have a problem with the following program. When I compile it with
"cc -O2" it works as it is expected but not with "cc -O3".
Should not I compile it with "cc -O3"?
If not, then why?

/*
cc -O2 and cc -O3
*/ 
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
typedef struct {double re,im} dcomplex;
dcomplex dcmk();
main()
{
	int i,j;
	double d;

	dcomplex *f;
	f=(dcomplex *)malloc(sizeof(dcomplex)*2);
	for(i=0;i<2;i++)
	{
		f[i]=dcmk(i*1.0,i*2.0);
		printf("%d %f %f\n",i,f[i].re,f[i].im);
	}
}
dcomplex dcmk(a,b)
	double a,b;
{
	dcomplex c;
	c.re = a; c.im = b;
	return c;
}

shingo watada
shingo@seismo.gps.caltech.edu

-- 
shingo watada
shingo@seismo.gps.caltech.edu
From: reissfel@kfk.de (Matthias Reissfelder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: task-task-communication on DECnet (SunOS-VAX/VMS)
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:48:46 GMT
Reply-To: reissfel@kfk.de
Organization: Kernforschungszentrum Karlsruhe (Germany)


Who has experinces in implementing task-task-communication on DECnet between SunOS and VAX/VMS?

I'm trying to reject logical link request on SUN but the VAX-process didn't detect the rejection in asynchronous use. By this way the same VAX-process can accept logical
link (asynchronously) without any problem. Also it's possible to detect rejection on VAX/VMS in synchronous use ...

Which optional message i've to send with rejection or what i'm doing wrong?

My systems are :

VAX/VMS 5.4-2

SunOS 4.1 / SunLink DNI 7.0


Thanks.


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Matthias Reissfelder                    reissfel@kfk.de
Kernforschungszentrum Karlsruhe GmbH    (Germany) 07247/82-5773
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: se@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Steve Elliott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: OW3.0 - spider program
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:39:18 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

In article <1992Apr11.183532.4618@news.yale.edu> paul%oberon@econ.yale.edu (Paul McGuire) writes:
>In article <1992Apr11.100420.28865@ukw.uucp> lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph) writes:
>>se@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Steve Elliott) writes:
>>
>>>In the demo directory of OW 3.0 there is a program
>>>called spider.
>>>Can anyone enlighten me with the rules of this game?
>>
>>I suggest you use the "Help" button, the second button
>>from the right. It will pop up a window with buttons
>>for all the help sections.
>
>I'd suggest that you not use help since I had fun working out the
>rules and how to win by what it would let me do.  After all, real
>computer wienies don't read documentation.  I've been
>addicted ever since.  My help button is grayed out anyway.
>Paul McGuire

Like Paul, my help button is grayed out too. Why do you think
I asked the net  for help?
Anyway, thanks to all those people who sent me mail.

Steve

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