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From: lunatic@netcom.com (Lunatic Johnathan Bruce E'Sex)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Project Apple Storm
Date: 12 Dec 92 08:47:02 GMT
Organization: Netcom; Renegade User

In article <Bz3zyp.Inv@news.iastate.edu> hal@budapest.math.macalstr.edu (Harold Byron Bouma) writes:
>Matthew Curtin writes
>>> for only a bit more (in computer terms) one can afford an Apple IIGS and the
>>> Apple IIe outsells it, there arises the question of what substance is  
>>>running the brain of whoever makes marketing decisions at Apple.
>> 
>> Ah, but the //e does not outsell the IIGS. Their sales, as disclosed by 
>> Apple were equal.
>
>	Ok, FOR EVERYONE WHO HAS ASKED THIS QUESTION:
>
>Those figures are from _dealerships_ across the nation, not to schools direct.  
>Apple sells more //es to schools than GS's, which is the Apple II's remaining  
>market. Just because the sales in the dealerships were equal does not represent  
>the actual figures.
>
>| Hal Bouma                            | Send mail to: HBouma@Macalstr.edu    |
 
 
    ]-[mm, I don't remember seeing _YOU_ at the "Project Apple Storm"
 meeting -- how do you know that those numbers are from _dealerships_?
    ___
     |hey said that Apple sold seven Apple IIgses that month, and an
 equal number of Apple IIes.  They did NOT specifically say that
 Apple _dealerships_ sold seven of each, nor did they even mention
 educational purchases.
 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: Wish list for FAX software on the GS
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 10:39:34 GMT

rwifall@nmsu.edu (Richard J Wifall) writes:

>In article <9212132333.AA26390@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca> 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao) writes:
>>       Is it possible to answer the fax call and put it on hold until the
>>   computer is ready to receive?  How about distinguishing voice calls from
>>   data calls from fax calls?
>        It depends how long of a wait we are talking about.  The fax
>transmission will time out and die if it has to wait too long.

Correct.

>        It is possible to distinquish between data and fax calls if
>your modem supports that feature.  It is not possible to distinguish a
>voice call except for the fact that you wouldn't get a connect..

No, it is possible. Modern modems support it. In the case of FAX or data,
they issue several RINGs very close to each other, this is recognized
by the program, which in turn "switches on" the modem part of the modem.
If it's voice, th RINGs come at a normal pace, you now have the option
to go into your voice mailbox (if your modem supports that) or answer the
phone manually/with your answering machine.
Of course, the exact method of distinguishing voice/data/FAX differs with
modem brand, but all the better modems can do it, and they allow you
to set up a voice mailbox with them, too.

Soenke
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: isc10327@nusunix1.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE)
Subject: Re: pointless pointers?
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:16:03 GMT

ustai@memstvx1.memst.edu wrote:
: Hiya,
: 	I just got pointless (finally!) the other day and yesterday, finally
: broke down and printed something from Appleworks GS, and was devastated by the
: quality (etc etc) and now have this great urge to find lots of TrueType fonts. 
: Any pointers and tips on converting Mac/IBM ones to my GS?  (Please don't tell
: me it's in the faq, please, pretty please?)
: 	Anyway, in one of my tests, using courier, part of one letter
: "infringed" on another letter (separated by a space), using a 12 point size. 
: Is that a bug with pointless (courier was supplied by them) or was that another
: of AppleWorks GS bugs?  Also, is there any way to make the default font _not_
: Geneva?
: 	Thanx for any help.  Ciao.
: 
: -Tai

	FTP over to Punisher.Caltech.Edu.  There are quite a number of
truetype fonts there.  Try "cd pub/apple2/uploads".  I saw a couple of
truetype fonts being uploaded there recently.

- DOTW -
From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Subject: Re: Project Apple Storm: The Empire Strikes Back
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:39:30 GMT


Ernie Moore is the founder and president of the Apple II Bay Area Apple User
Group. The vast majority of the people at that meeting were user group
officers. As I stated on the phone to that "unidentified Apple employee", I
could understand his being upset with the tape recording, but felt that any
legal action taken against a user group would backfire big time. Imagine the
precedent that would set?

Joe Kohn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Stop IBM Pirate Lamers!
From: csokolo@eis.calstate.edu (Christopher Sokolov)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:18:48 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Well, we could solve this problem quite nicely if someone somehow
liscensed the Laser 128 ROMs. :-)

-Christopher Sokolov
From: cd248@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Sherman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Printing to an AppleLaserWriter LS
Date: 20 Dec 1992 08:37:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cd248@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Sherman)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) says:

>>Huh?  You can save a GS file as Postscript??  Tell me if I read that
>>right.
>
>Yes, you are reading just fine. I do this all the time, and view the 
>files on my NeXT (although lately I have been having some minor troubles
>since moving to Postcript Level 2).

OK, how do you do it??  
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: timmer@dutiag.tudelft.nl (I. Timmermans)
Subject: email from internet to applelink
Summary: email from internet to applelink ?
Keywords: internet applelink
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:52:18 GMT


Can anybody tell me how I can send email 
from Internet to applelink and vice versa? 
I know the procedures for sending mail from 
compuserve to internet and back again. 
It seems logical that this is possible 
for applelink too. 

Thanks in advance
Hans Timmermans
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: RamFAST problem?
Date: 14 Dec 1992 05:24:58 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu

gregt+@CMU.EDU (Gregory Ross Thompson) writes:

>When I have DMA on, things will run for a while, but then something
>inevitably bombs.  Sometimes it's nice, like a "GS/OS fatal error" or

>	s3: ZipGS 9/64K (board v1.02)

>Ever since then, it seems like the RF.  Is it possible that when the
>RF DMAs, sometimes the Zip toasts the data?  Hell, I dunno.  I'd

With the 1.02 Zip, that should not occur. Prior Zip boards did have a problem
but they were a lot less subtle (i.e. your cursor left "tracks" all over the
screen and so on). Even then, ditching the RAMFAST.DRIVER and using the
P8 firmware from GS/OS fixed it.

Try re-seating things like the Zip and so on, and see if that makes it work.
Make sure you are fairly familiar with the troubleshooting section of the
manual before you call Drew, he tends to get rather annoying if he thinks you
are wasting his time with something that's in the manual. (Trust me on this!)

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
From: hinchlif@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Peter Hinchliffe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Flakey Option characters
Date: 21 Dec 1992 16:33:38 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au

Thanks to everyone who replied to my post. Everyone was most helpful, and
everyone said the same thing - the General Control Panel. OK, I set the
translation to "Standard" and the problem is now fixed.

I can't help feeling a little red-faced, though. It's a little like pulling
the stereo apart to find out why it isn't working, only to find it wasn't
plugged in! Talk about the things we forget.

Anyway, I sure know where to come to get my (computer) problems fixed in the
future! The response is instant and prolific.

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From: bsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu (Bob Sherman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Project Apple Storm: The Empire Strikes Back
Date: 15 Dec 1992 03:06:10 -0500
Organization: Not much!
NNTP-Posting-Host: mthvax.cs.miami.edu

In <Bz9Fpv.Bxq@well.sf.ca.us> joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn) writes:


>Ernie Moore is the founder and president of the Apple II Bay Area Apple User
>Group. The vast majority of the people at that meeting were user group
>officers. As I stated on the phone to that "unidentified Apple employee", I
>could understand his being upset with the tape recording, but felt that any
>legal action taken against a user group would backfire big time. Imagine the
>precedent that would set?

>Joe Kohn

I sure hope the users group involved is incorporated to protect the
innocent. If not, and Apple does commence legal action, they can sue the
club, every officer, as well as every member if they choose to.. A good
reason to be incorporated..  :-)

Backfire big time???? It would make every online service, every users group
newsletter, and no doubt the general media (with a little bit of good
PR assistance). No doubt it would even make the inhouse publications at
IBM.. :-)

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From: ustai@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Learn programming? (Was Re: My wish list from programmers)
Date: 13 Dec 92 09:33:34 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Dec13.032405.2031@vpnet.chi.il.us>, vagrant@vpnet.chi.il.us (Guy Umbright) writes:
> Sorry, I have to flame a bit...
> 
> Why dont you write them?  Right now the IIgs needs as many developers
> as possible.  There is certainly enough help available via this
> newsgroup.

	OK.  Here's one "always wanted to learn but never had the time, etc
etc" guy.  Any help for those beginners who would like to learn?  Specifically,
what resources are available?  IE, if I wanted to write a desktop program, what
should I look for, watch out for, or a DA, or a init, etc etc.  What books are
good?  What language?  Assembly?  What about actual source code examples? 
Anyone willing to contribute source examples?
	From what I can see, there's a very steep learning curve in the
beginning, but once you are over it, you are over it.  The problem is getting
over it...
	I have an idea for a da/init.  Upon boot up and when it crosses
midnight, it would check a designated appleworks classic/gs db file for names
and birthdays and stick in either on a line at the bottom of the screen or in a
window or make a sign somewhere that there's yet again someone you forgot to
send a birthday card to.  Probably a program of no value, but I had always
wanted something to do that.  My problem is, HOW do I write something like
that?  Lots of things I don't understand.  How to check when it crosses
midnight?  I mean, that part I know, but how do you let a program "know"
when it's midnight, and time for it to come out of the closet?  Obviously you
can't have the program continuous check the time... (even under GNO... :) 
Which brings up another point... how do you program for shell?)
	I suppose it's time to shell out for an assemble/compiler...  Which one
should I pick up (ie, best price/performance/support)?
	Any replies, comments, helps and hints are very welcomed.  Oh yeah, I
have access to VMS, Ultrix and Unix manuals too, and if there's any good stuff
there, do tell.
	Ciao.
	
-Tai
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: neely@iowasp.physics.uiowa.edu
Subject: Disk drive probs, need new drive?
Organization: Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Iowa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 03:51:45 GMT


Hello, everyone!
	As a previous (and very happy) Apple II+ owner, I was asked to
help out a friend with a problem with her Apple II.  The system has
two Apple disk drives with a 3.3 controller.  Disk drive 2 dosen't write.
The first thing that I looked at was the disk speed (I used Locksmith 4.1)
and discovered that it was off the scale on the fast side.  I then tried
to adjust the speed by adjusting the little screw made for that purpose
at the back of the drive.  I just barely touched the screw and the drive
speed indicator went to the other extreme, that is, off the scale on the
slow end.  I am wondering if the drive has a bad speed regulator (or
whatever it is called).  Is there any fix for this?
	If there is no fix, does anyone have a spare disk II drive that
they would like to sell me cheap?
	Thanks for any help......


			-Matt Neely
			neely@iowasp.physics.uiowa.edu
From: acct127@carroll1.cc.edu (Danny E. Gross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: ReIts me again!
Date: 13 Dec 92 23:34:39 GMT
Organization: Carroll College-Waukesha, WI


>In article <1gfusaINN7r6@uwm.edu>, greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gayla Ann Greis) writes:

Just so all of you people who feel you need to periodiajh Ack! 
periodically flame me, I have a new acct and address. Please make a
not of it! Thnkas! (Needs to get the emulation set right!!!)

Dan
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Paul Benson, rSounder
Date: 12 Dec 92 03:46:46 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <19921210.052717.563@almaden.ibm.com> Pauley@vnet.ibm.com (Paul Benson) writes:
> I have not changed any of the code for the clear zero option.  It's basically
> a 0->$80 conversion, making sure I don't go all the way to the end.

$00 to $80?  Are you sure about that?  That would introduce a serious
click into the sound if it was a single $00 byte.  Filtering zeros
should convert them into $01.

If the original sound contained something like $04 $03 $02 $01 $00 $01
$02 $03 $04, you don't want the $00 leaping up to half scale ($80).
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas)
Subject: Floptical instead of SuperDrive?
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:55:43 GMT

In article <1gtecfINNhs7@newsman.csu.murdoch.edu.au> hinchlif@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Peter Hinchliffe) writes:
>klo@sales.GBA.NYU.EDU (Worried) writes:
>
>
>>If not, does that mean I must get a Superdrive controller card
>>AND the Superdrive, just to read HD Mac, MSDOS and GS/OS
>>disks?
>
>You MUST have a real live SuperDrive to be able to make use of high density 
>disks. The MS-DOS FST (from all accounts) will not work on anything less than 
>a SuperDrive. The standard Apple 3.5 which was supplied with your IIgs will not
>cut it. Mac HFS (800K) is not a problem, of course.

I have my own question about this: Can one of those Floptical drives (720K,
1.44MB, 21MB) drives connected to a SCSI card work with the MS-DOS FST?

If it could, that would be great... Read all IBM, Mac, and of course my
Apple II disks as well as 21MB removable "cartridges".  This sounds, to
me, like a much better cost:performance ratio than a SuperDrive and card.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: IDE Card
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 09:40:53 GMT

AKARPENKO@ALBION.BITNET writes:

>Has anyone tried this card yet.  I am planning on getting a hard drive in a
>couple of weeks and am debating betweein this card and the RAMFast.  Any
>suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

This depends very much on what you want. Speedwise, they don't differ that
much. True, the IDE is faster, but the RF is pretty fast, too. IDE drives
are cheaper than SCSI drives, but to an IDE card you can't hook a CD-ROM
or scanner or laser printer or floptical or .... "just" HD and Tape. OTOH,
many people are quite comfortable with HD and Tape (jeck, there are even
those without a tape at all), and do not plan to add a CD-ROM to their GS.

Both cards get good support, so that's not an issue, either.

Reusability (sp?): Again, depends on what your next computer will be. Macs,
Sun, NeXT use SCSI. IBM 486 and clones often use IDE (yes, even with Unix :).
The rumoured Avatar'll use IDE, although that is perhaps not really something
to consider, yet. Hmm, but thinking about it, what would you do with a
100MB HD on a new computer, anyway? A bit small I'd say.

So, this is what it looks like to me: Lower price for IDE drives,
more possibilities device-wise for SCSI. If you foresee that you want a HD
and perhaps a Tape, and that's it, go with the IDE. If you want lots of
devices, give up some speed and buy a RF.

Soenke

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: rwifall@nmsu.edu (Richard J Wifall)
Subject: Re: GS<>IRC
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:14:18 GMT

In article <921213231653.7427@VAX.CSUN.EDU> VBCSC038@VAX.CSUN.EDU writes:

>	   I have yet another question.  What the hell is GS<>IRC and how do I 
>   to "#AppleIIGS".. ?  I'm really confused here :)
>
>   Brenden

	GS<>IRC is a programming group composed of: Dave (God) Huang,
Tim (Nintendo) Meekins, James (Music Man) Brookes, Ian (*Zap) Schmidt,
and Richard (FAXplosion) Wifall..  Feel free to bug dave about our
demo..

	And to get to #AppleIIgs, telnet to bradenville.andrew.cmu.edu
and then enter a nickname and then type /join #AppleIIgs...

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From: gdesroch@slate.mines.colorado.edu (DESROCHERS GARY FREDERIC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Printer driver information.
Date: 12 Dec 92 15:14:02 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage) writes:
: 
: Well, the key is to use some extra common sense (above what you normally

     Common sense?  What page is that on?  Did I miss it? :-)
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: clark@cerl.uiuc.edu (Mike Clark)
Subject: Apple Profile Drive information
Organization: UIUC Computer-based Education Research Lab
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:47:02 GMT

Does anyone out there remember the Apple Profile Drive?

I got a pair of them at an auction, still sealed in their boxes.
I want to know how big the drive is and what kind of connection they use.

They have 25 pin connectors on the back, but I can't believe they would be
SCSI.  I figure they connected to the Apple II floppy port, or had their
own card.  Anyone remember?  They are probably 10Meg each?  Maybe only 5?

I want to use them on a mac, or would be interested in selling them.
Any information is appreciated, via mail or posting.   Thanks.


Michael Clark
Computer-Based Education Research Lab, University of Illinois.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy)
Subject: Re: Attn Michael Henitz (ab20 mods)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:32:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.014336.11529@vela.acs.oakland.edu> mkheintz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Michael Heintz) writes:

>Honestly, let's not start a war over who has the better mod player.  Both
>soniqTRACKER and MODZap have strong points.  I just happen to like the
>stereo mixing that soniqTRACKER offers.  I guess Ian didn't offer it
>because everybody would then think he copied the idea from soniqTRACKER.

Actually James Brookes was discussing it with me as a feature for MODZap, and
all the sudden sT had it...coincidence or what? :)  MZ does have stereo mixing,
what the hell version are you guys using anyway? :)

>	Just my two cents,
>		...Mike
  
   My $120 (GNO's suggested retail price, dontcha know ;)


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  "I will choose a path that's clear: I will choose free will." - Neil Peart
"..there is another large cross section of users that think the Apple front
office is infested with morons and dimwits" - Ernie Moore, Project Apple Storm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: Printing to an AppleLaserWriter LS
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 03:00:17 GMT

In article <1h1bciINNhl@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cd248@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Sherman) writes:
[ ]

>>>Huh?  You can save a GS file as Postscript??  Tell me if I read that
>>>right.
>>
>>Yes, you are reading just fine. I do this all the time, and view the 
>>files on my NeXT (although lately I have been having some minor troubles
>>since moving to Postcript Level 2).
>
>OK, how do you do it??  

After clicking on print in the printer dialog box (you may have to rename
your LaserWriter CDEV to Postscript or anything else, although I haven't)
press OA-F (or OA-K, can seem to recall the letter! which is why it would 
be nice to have the option of saving to a Postscript file as in 7.x on the
Mac- they used to have to do the same trick). Anyway this will produce
the necessary Postscript file(s) in the System folder.
 
Philip
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2