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From: kanala@sc2a.unige.ch
Subject: Re: CD Tech cdev (Was: Quadra 950 incompatibi...)
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:12:45 GMT

>> 
>> Is there anyone who has recently upgraded to a Quadra (in particular a 950)
>> and would like to compare notes ? So far I've had problems with:
>> 
>>   TMON Pro (waiting for a response from ICOM tech support)
>>   Excel 3.0 (freezes when opening or saving files)
>>   Nisus 3.06 (I believe there's an upgrade for 040 machines)
>> 
>> Most other stuff appears to work OK but I'd be interested to
>> hear of any other known compatibility problems.
>> 
> Excel has to be version 3.0a free from MicroSoft 800-426-9400
> TMON Pro has to be version 3.01 708-520-4440
> Nisus is supposed to be compatible with 3.06 619-481-1477
> 
> My only real problem is third party CD drive (CD Technology) doesn't
> work yet.

I have CD PortaDrive with 1.4 cdev, but I have read the 1.4.3 is required
for Quadras. I have edited the pref file on my old SE in order it opens
the driver at startup and don't call it from my Quadra 700, so far it
works.
CD Technology seem to want $50 for any latest software version, following
their price list, plus something for shipping. This tremendous amount for
any, even minor upgrade can be interpreted as an inconvenience fee rather
than programmer's salary for work on it:
Can someone send me the 1.4.3 CD Tech cdev ?
Thanks in advance,
Roman Kanala, COMIN, University of Geneva, Switzerland, kanala@sc2a.unige.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: redmondd@unix1.tcd.ie (Judge Raz)
Subject: Animation package recommendations??
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:14:12 GMT

Hi,
I'm just starting to get into animation and also trying to decide what
computer to buy. I'm 90% sure it'll be a Powerbook 145 so I'm sounding
out the software end of things. Basically I want a good animation
package that won't crucify a students bank account. I've checked the
software ads in MacUser but there was nothing on Animation.
Would I be better off getting a 3D-graphics/CAD/Animation all-in-one?
If you want a summary say so and I'll email.

Thanks for recommendations,

Judge Raz

redmondd@unix1.tcd.ie  |    ~~~    |  You got my body now you want my soul 
Donncha Redmond        |    o-o    |  Now can't have none of that 
National Swim Team     |     ^     |  Tell her whatta say Mace 
Ireland		       |    `-'    |  Say no go		-- De La Soul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: AVERNON1@ua1vm.ua.edu (Andrew Vernon)
Subject: Re: Quark XTensions
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:00:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.231452.6560@PacBell.COM>
rjplumm@srv.PacBell.COM (RJ Plummer) writes:
 
>Do any archives have free Quark XTensions? I couldn't find any in sumex or
>umich.
 
Quark (in its authoratative handbook "We Will Hurt You and We are Not Sorry,"
sez they only post freeware XTensions to America Online. Of all of those
the only one ever to make it to the Internet was PM Import 1.0b
(The PageMaker importer), and it should be on Sumex-aim in info-mac/apps.
 
If you have a colleague on AOL you can enlist, there's plenty of nicities
there, though.
 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: scott@cadence.com (Scott Gustafson)
Subject: Re: Hi is Insignia - makers of SoftPC accessable via Internet ???
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:02:34 GMT

In article <chris.716815014@hotel>, root@hawkesbury.uws.EDU.AU (Operator)
wrote:
> 
> Is "Insignia Solutions" (the Makers of SoftPC/AT/Windows) available 
> via the Internet ???
> 

D1437@applelink.apple.com is their assress.

scott
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: mek@guinan.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek)
Subject: Re: Which Word Processor?
Organization: Penn State Center for Academic Computing
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 18:34:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct01.175051.118878@zeus.calpoly.edu>  
rcarr@zeus.calpoly.edu (Robin) writes:
> I am looking into purchasing a new Word Processor for my Mac.  I have  
used
> MS Word 4.0 and am not thrilled with it.  I tested out MacWrite II for
> a few hours, and I'm not all that impressed with that either.  
> 
> Can anyone tell me about FullWrite?  or WriteNow?
> Also, I have been browsing at Claris Works (which I can purchase in the 
> University bookstore for $119).  I've heard it's good, but is it really
> as good as the magazines keep saying?
> 
> If anyone has suggestions, please let me know.
> 

My normal word processor is FrameMaker 3.0 on my NeXTstation; however,  
yesterday I had to use Word 4.0 on my Mac IIcx to edit an old document and  
it was a very painful experience trying to get the text and figures to  
look decent--i.e., a layout where there aren't big hunks of white space.  
(It's possible, it just takes a heck of a lot of tweaking and making sure  
that Word hasn't overlaid figures or performed any other nasty tricks.)  
Maybe these problems are fixed in Word 5.0; however, given that FrameMaker  
has real hefty educational discounts, it is probably a cost-competitive  
option.

If you are writing long documents like theses or dissertations or want  
some page layout capability, IMHO it isn't even close--you will regret not  
having the power of FrameMaker. Although it runs reasonably well on my  
Powerbook 170, the software prefers a large screen and at least 4 MB of  
RAM. The software has a built in symbolic processor/equation formatter  
which is GREAT (I only use Mathematica for heavy-duty symbolic processing)  
as well as a reasonably good object-oriented drawing capability. In other  
words, there's a lot of bank for the buck and it's more than just a word  
processor.

For the record, I was a heavy duty Word 4.0 user before I started with  
FrameMaker and thought (at that time) it was the best of the Mac word  
processors (compared to FullWrite and WriteNow). I also think that Word  
5.0 is probably a very good choice if you are dealing primarily with text  
or relatively small reports featuring equations and figures.

Mark.
--
Mark Kotanchek
Guidance & Control Dept - 363 ASB
Applied Research Lab/Penn State
P.O. Box 30
State College, PA 16804
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: WriteNow 3.0
From: kmorriso@zeus.calpoly.edu (Kent E Morrison)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 14:03:55 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Summary: Thesaurus & virtual memory incompatible

With WN 3.0 there is a thesaurus that crashes when I am using
virtual memory (sys 6.07). No other problems with inits--yet.

______________________________________________________________________________
Kent Morrison                           kmorriso@nike.calpoly.edu
Math Dept                               office: (805) 756-2464
Cal Poly                                dept:   (805) 756-2206
San Luis Obispo, CA 93407               fax:    (805) 756-1670
______________________________________________________________________________


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: dlc@ais.org (David Claytor)
Subject: Re: StuffIt SpaceSaver 1.0.1 address error
Organization: UMCC
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:56:58 GMT

In article <BvCuyG.M99@ais.org> dlc@ais.org (David Claytor) writes:
>
>I'm stumped.  Running System 6.0.8 on an SE (20 meg internal HD, 105 meg
>external HD), I cannot get StuffIt SpaceSaver 1.0.1 to boot up without an
>"address error" crash. I've been in communication with Aladdin and it
>seems like we've tried everything -- including removing virtually every
>init, cdev, and extraneous what-not from my system folder.  Boot up and
>BAM:  address error!  Reinstall SS 1.0 and everything's fine.
>
>Has anyone else had problems getting SS 1.0.1 to boot?  What did you do to
>solve the problem?  I'd be grateful for advice and suggestions.
>
>__Dave
>


I seem to have solved my own problem:

To make a long story short, I recalled reading the following item
in the 1.0.1 README file:  "If you are using System 6, but not running under
Multifinder, you will not be able to use the '.sit'/'.sea' aspects of
SpaceSaver due to memory limitations.  Magic Menu will work just fine and  
so you may use that method for working with archives."          
 
That made me start to wonder.  The fact is, I don't use Multifinder and
don't even have it loaded in my system folder.  With a 9" screen on my SE
and DT Launch, using Multifinder seemed to be unnecessary.  But on a hunch,
I put a copy of Multifinder back in my system folder, rebooted, set startup
to Multifinder, rebooted, ran the StuffIt SpaceSaver 1.0.1 installer,
rebooted, and -- bingo!  All is well.

__Dave

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: c60a-bh@danube.Berkeley.EDU (Ben Cottrell)
Subject: Re: Stuffit: an error-free process?
Keywords: stuffit
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:24:54 GMT

marko@ocf.berkeley.edu (Mark Nolte) writes:

>Is Stuffit an error-free process?  I have several applications I'd
>like to stuff and segment, but I'm a little worried that Stuffit
>might slice-and-dice them into oblivion.

>Am I worrying about nothing???


>Any info is appreciated.


>marko@ocf.Berkeley.edu

Yes, StuffIt is error free.  So is Compact Pro, and pretty much all of the
compression programs around EXCEPT MORE DISK SPACE!!!  Stay away from
that one: it's evil.

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:38:26 EDT
From: <BXT3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Disk Catalog Program?

Hi everyone. Does anyone know of a program that records the contents and makes
a record of all the files you have on floppies?  Preferably system 7 compatible
.

Thanks,

Ben Tu
bxt3@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: mbendic@stingray.micro.umn.edu (Michael Bendickson)
Subject: Help!  Printing output in Turbo Pascal?
Summary: How do you print output in turbo pascal?
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis: Under Grad Workstation Lab.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:14:24 GMT

PLEASE HELP!

I have a bunch of students trying to print out output from their Turbo
Pascal 1.1 programs on Macintosh II's with System 6.0.7.  How do you
go about doing this?  I can't figure it out for the life of me.

Thanks,

--
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 E-Mail: mbendic@mermaid.micro.umn.edu		       Institute of Technology
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.apps:15060 comp.sys.mac.misc:17096 comp.sys.mac.programmer:16153
From: taylor@uva386.schools.virginia.edu (Steve Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: Looking for Color Paint Program  >> PICT's in ResEdit
Date: 27 Sep 92 03:01:54 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Charlottesville)

Get Lightning Paint from wuarchive.wustl.edu.

go to systems/mac/info-mac directory and I think you will find
it in apps.  Happy hunting!
-- 
Steve

taylor@uva386.schools.Virginia.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: heyes@dadev.cebaf.gov (Graham Heyes)
Subject: Auto Doubler 2.0 out yet ?
Organization: Continuous Electron Beam Accelerator Facility
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.apps
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:54:02 GMT

I read quite a while ago that AutoDoubler 2.0 was due for release
in September 1992, well today is the last day of said month and
still the only thing I have heard about it has come from this 
network. Salient have an annoying machine which puts me on hold
for annoying amounts of time or at least until someone calls on
one of the other lines. So, what if anything is the current 
story, has anyone got the upgrade? I only bought AD about three
months ago after rave reviews, of course nobody said "wait a few
months and all the things which will irritate you if you buy now 
will be fixed". So I am wondering how much the upgrade will cost
me if at all, do they have a deal for recent buyers. If so will
the upgrade come automatically or should I talk to their machine?

Thanks,
	Graham Heyes
From: gt8798a@prism.gatech.EDU (Anthony S. Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Recommendation on SAT Tutor
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:43:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

This is not for myself, it is for my younger sister.
I know that there are a few SAT programs out there, and I would like some
suggestions on which ones are more helpful.  I would a highly interactive
program that corrects your mistakes and also explains the reason for the
correct answer.  Please e-mail or follow up.

anthony
From: ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: PostScript documents
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:56:56 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <19uvlmINNc9o@taloa.unice.fr> gautero@lilas.unice.fr writes:
>
>  Is it possible with Word or MacWrite instead of 
>printing directly a document, to get a PostScript
>file?
>
>  Thanks.
>
>-- 
>
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>*       Laboratoire I3S - CNRS - URA 1376 - 250 rue A. Einstein       *
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There is always the printing to the laserwriter trick.  Under 6.0.x,
select LaserWriter, print and while it is waiting, press F, and a
file called postscript is written out on the HD.  If you do not
change the name, the file will be overwritten by the next use of
this feature.

  With System VII, pop up the Chooser, select the LaserWriter,
do a Print and select the Print to Postscript file option.

If I am not accurate on an item, please reply to this.

Hope this helps,
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             (Insert standard disclaimer here)

   I would rather have a frontal lobotomy than Windows NT!
From: macdevil@netlink.cts.com (Leonard Cayetano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: amiga graphics on a MAC?
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:53:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: netlink.3Fs1RB2w165w
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

galeana@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu writes:

> Is there a way to get amiga graphics on a mac?  I tried using imagery by Jeff
> Lewis, but when I insert the amiga disk that contains the graphics, the mac
> asks if I want to format the disk.
> 
> Any responses or REplys would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Juan
> galeana@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu

The Mac is not capable of recognizing an Amiga formatted disk.  The only 
non-Mac disk it does accept (and only if you have a superdrive) are IBM 
disks.  Is there a way for you to download the graphics from an Amiga to 
your Mac?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: tthuang@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Timothy T. Huang)
Subject: init managers
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 06:42:46 GMT

Does anyone know where I can find reviews and comparisons of the latest 
versions of init managers (e.g. Initpicker, Initmanager, Startup 
Manager, etc.)?  Or does anyone want to comment on the advantages and
disadvantages of them? Thanks.

Tim
From: bruce@spss.com (Bruce Stephenson)
Newsgroups: sun.mac-users,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Stupid Suitecase question
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:17:13 GMT
Organization: SPSS Inc.

briang@bari.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Gordon) writes:

>I'm running Suitecase 2.1.1, and can't fin my @#!$%@ manual.  I want to delete
>a font from the permanent set.  I can close it, but don't dinf a command to
>remove it from that set.  Help????

I believe you have to use Cut from the Edit menu. I'd prefer Clear,
myself, since Cut has clipboard implications in my mind.
From: pfkelly@bnr.ca (Pete Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: AutoDoubler 2.0 vs. MacOberon 2.4
Date: 3 Oct 92 00:23:47 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research/Northern Telecom
X-Xxdate: Fri, 2 Oct 92 01:29:54 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11

In article <19828@ector.cs.purdue.edu> Edgar Knapp, knapp@cs.purdue.EDU
writes:
>That's the second major problem with AD that surfaced in as many days
>(the first one was an incompatibility with SpeedyFinder7).  Talk about
>sloppy beta-testing...

Do you really think it's fair to expect a company to beta-test against
every bit of available shareware out there.  There are literally hundreds
and the possible combinations astronomical.

From what I've seen, SpeedyFinder7 and CopyDoubler are attempting to
accomplish similar things and are most likely mucking around in the same
Finder code, with one patching and the other possibly re-patching the
same thing. What do you expect ?

It's a simple choice.  Pick the one that works best for you and simply
don't load the other.  Or use an extension manager to load the one that
fits your particular mood of the day !
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: ajmiller@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Arkayn)
Subject: Re: Problem/s with WriteNow 3.0
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 07:10:32 GMT

sleo@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Suwandi Leo) writes:
>I have WriteNow 3.0 wunning on MacII si 5/80 with the following on:
>After Dark, DiskExpress II, MasterJuggler, Disk Light (all from
>Alsoft Power Utilities).  My WriteNow 3.0 hung on me but when I
>took out (erased) Alsoft Power Utilities, my WriteNow 3.0 runs
>well again.  Anyone knows of any problems with WriteNow 3.0?

No, but I do seem to recall that Disk Light is a system killer. Try just taking
it out. My bet is your problem will be solved.
-- 
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From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Filemaker Pro Page Margins
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:35:47 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

f0975893@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu writes:

>I am having problems changing the page margins in Filemaker Pro.
>At least I can find no way to do it. They seem to be preset. There
>does not seem to be any command within the menus that controls them.
>I have tried Page Setup... and the layout and preview modes.
>Can anyone shed some light on the matter?

    The Layout margins are preset to 1/2 inch. It is possible to
increase this size to 1/4 inch using the Page Setup dialog. You click on
the options button and then select larger print area. But this is the
only thing you can do with the margins in FM Pro. I also don't recall
seeing anything about margins in the 2.0 beta that I used.

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
   "You know Television has gone to hell when, with every commercial,
	 you find yourself hoping to see the Energizer Bunny."
From: knapp@cs.purdue.EDU (Edgar Knapp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: LaTeX for the Mac
Keywords: TeX Macintosh
Date: 5 Oct 92 02:13:05 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

In article <1992Oct3.062829.23555@reed.edu> barry@reed.edu (Barry Smith) writes:

>Another part of the Textures concept is integration with the "total Macintosh
>system". Again, Textures is by no means ideal at this integration, but it does
>have some surprising consequences. For example, it's possible in Textures to
>copy a picture from, say, MacDraw, then to paste that picture into a Textures
>document, and then to copy a complete typeset TeX page containing that picture
>and paste that page into a Microsoft Word document. Similarly, Textures works

It's great to see Barry on the net. 

One question I have is: when will Textures support publish and
subscribe? Even though cutting and pasting from and to other programs
works well, revisions of included material are a pain, since one has
to cut the old copy, paste it into the foreign program, edit it there,
copy and paste the new copy back and then give it the same
name as the old copy had. I'd rather double-click on the "picture" and
have the program that created it opened automagically.

Edgar

(knapp@cs.purdue.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: JBUTLER@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Jon Butler)
Subject: Re: iter Paper?
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 19:18:46 EDT

 
A paper to avoid for inkjet printers is from IJ TECHNOLOGIES.  It doesn't reall
have a name but comes in a 200-sheet package advertised as "Specialty [sic?]
Coated for Ink Jet Printers."  It cost $16.95 at Staples stores.  Frankly,
it works no better than Xerox 4200, which costs $2.89 for 500 sheets.  In
general, I've found that most 20lb 25% cotton fiber paper works well and
had the best luck with a 20lb 25% cotton recycled paper marketed under Staples
own name until it was apparently discontinued last year.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: hsmoliar+@DB1.SPEECH.CS.CMU.EDU (Harold Smoliar)
Subject: stuffit update problem
Originator: hsmoliar@DB1.SPEECH.CS.CMU.EDU
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:47:59 GMT



Hi all
I downloaded the Stuffit Deluxe updater to 3.0.2 from sumex and did everything
that I was supposed to do and now my Magic Menu won't work.  It says that it 
cannot find the Stuffit Engine in the Preferences Folder.  But it's there--
honest.
Any ideas??
E-mail please.

Harold
hsmoliar@db1.speech.cs.cmu.edu
From: dooley@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Kevin Dooley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: binhex source?
Date: 4 Oct 92 23:07:49 GMT
Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA


Thanks to everybody who responded so quickly to my question.  The answer
is, of course, 'mcvert' which is available in the info-mac/unix directory
of sumex-aim.stanford.edu.  Thanks again.
		Kevin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,aus.mac,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system
From: hcm@ausom.oz.au (Hamish Mogan)
Subject: Re: How can you print overheads on Stylewriter without smearing??
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 03:18:50 GMT
Reply-To: hcm%ausom.oz@sol.cc.deakin.oz.au
Organization: AUSOM - The Apple Users Society of Melbourne

try finding an old Ink cartirage and injecting it with a porous ink..

HM
PS . Stylewriters use QUINK in by Parker.. so ask them

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