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From: pul@hardy.u.washington.edu (Arbaline)
Subject: Re: Astral 1.
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 06:42:13 GMT

In article <658249251DN5.62R@testsys.isis.org> doug@uuisis.isis.org writes:
>Well, ya know, what I can't figure is that if these guys in the flying
>saucers are so smart, why haven't they figured out how to do e-mail
>yet and got linked to the internet?
>uuisis!testsys!doug

They have!

You can do a lot as an ET is you are willing to enter a human body (be
a Walk-in) or incarnate in a human family from birth (be what they
call a Crawl-in). Most ET's choose to help us from spiritual planes or
stay in their ships, but there are a few bold, excitement craving ones
who like to get down and dirty and live among us in human bodies.
Many New-agers or Star-people are in this category. Most know who they
are but a few don't yet. Living in the dense, evolving aura of Earth
can make one temporarily forget their cosmic origins, if they weren't
already an ET Master when they came to Earth. Now, the Galactic
Confederation doesn't land or show their ships openly to the masses
because we of Earth are not collectively ready for it, and they are
not allowed to interfere. However, since the ET's in human form fall
under Earth's karmic law, they are allowed to openly spread their
wisdom, sometimes admitting their origin causing others to think they
are weird, and other times being more subtle. Of course, remember that
many of we of Earth have lots of wisdom too and most of the ETs here
are still learning themselves, too. At least that's the way I see it.

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Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
From: stone@cwis.unomaha.edu (Travis Stone)
Subject: Re: Greys, Good or Bad
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:56:13 GMT



It's high tribute to human intestinal fortitude that everyone
in A.A.V. puts up with your apparently endless stream of tepid
tabloid drivel, Johnny...

T.R.Stone
Xref: sparky talk.religion.newage:5355 alt.alien.visitors:8421 sci.skeptic:19835
From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Abort
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 18:23:00 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Dear Ex-aliens:  It was mentioned that it would be good to have a 
dictionary of another language. I was given some words used by another
planet called Legart. About one in a hundred of the words are the same
as ours. I remember one of the words that was the same was the word
abort.
John Winston
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From: kish@kish.rutgers.edu (Kish)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: Yes, I'm sure.
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:03:06 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Nov16.193353.4639@leland.Stanford.EDU>, mirage@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dean Joseph Sanvitale) writes:

> Yes, I am sure, but not absolutely.


Try the orange beef.  Watch out for the spices.
-- 

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From: pclink@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au (Rick)
Subject: Re: Astral 1.
Organization: Telecom Australia, TNE Computer Support Services
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:16:41 GMT

John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:

>Subject: Astral Projection.
>vision.  One of my teachers could go all the way to Venus by astral 
>projection.

Why are we spending megabucks launching probes when these guys can do it
in their living room?  Perhaps NASA should be looking at alternatives?

Rick.
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
From: 004107w@ace.acadiau.ca (CHRISTOPHER KEITH WILDBORE)
Subject: Contamination
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:20:34 GMT

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To: rhay@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Robert Hay)
From: 004107w@ace.acadiau.ca (CHRISTOPHER KEITH WILDBORE)
Subject: Re: Contamination
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:49:56 GMT
Cc: 004107w@ace.acadiau.ca
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In article <aggNuB3w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> you write:
>From: rhay@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Robert Hay)
>Subject: Contamination
>Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 09:46:33 MST
>I wanted to know how ones energy feild becomes contaminated and how one 
>can become uncontaminated, as I believe I have been contaminated.  It is 
>a somewhat long story and personal, however I believe it is my thought 
>energy feild that is contaminated.  I channeled a freind of mine and I 
>were engaged with each other.  She developed some terrible fears during 
>this time and both of our emotions were really running high.  She 
>developed a terrible set of anxiety and I felt as though I was not in my 
>body for about 3 days afterwords.  My head stung like pins and needles 
>and I am certain that she threw up a wall.  I am really concerned for her 
>and me.  
>
>Anyone familiar with this please drop me some mail.
>Thankyou.
>
>Robert Hay              rhay@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 


Hi Rob,
     I am not quite sure what you were doing, or what has happened.  I 
suggest you repost on Alt-Pagan.  If you don't find someone there who can 
offer some advise then I'll find some who can.  Either way I'll start 
researching it right away, ok? Hang in there and stay in touch.
                              Blessed be all seeking,
                              Chris
Newsgroups: g,talk.religion.newage
From: c114252@cs.UAlberta.CA (Swain Martin Thomas)
Subject: absolutes
Organization: University of Alberta
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:56:32 GMT

I think our language makes it hard to think about something like 'absolute 
truth,'
  
Perhaps we have to move beyond the limiting belief of a human like entity 
that dispenses justice, etc.,

I hate to butt into a private (?) discussion, but it must be
said, Jhon Emery is a thinking dude.
 However, I must disagree, on point, not principle. Jhon, consider the word universe. Are you up on your latin at all?
Loosley translated, I think universe means, like one word.
Now is that absolute or what?
 No, I don't think the language is to blame. In fact, in my opinion, it's difficult to think about anything in our current   stifling social environment. How much less the largest possible
questions?
 I submit to you that it is human pschycology which makes it
difficult not to think of absolutes. Face it, one day, we're all gonna die. This is a basic of human existance, and kind of provides an overwhelming disbelief of anything that doesn't come to an end, or, an absolute.
 Everything we really know has an end somewhere, life, sex, dinner, so that the notion is really geared into us.
 Is there an absolute? Might as well be. It can be proved that .999 repeating endlessly is actually one, and so it is with our existance. If there isn't a real absolute, there certainly are functional ones.
 The second quote I included just to applaude this thinking dudes good sense. Cudos. 
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
From: waddell@firnvx.firn.edu
Subject: Re: Where is the navel chakra
Organization: Florida State University
Date: 17 Nov 92 09:54:31 EST

In article <Nov.16.12.28.37.1992.9680@kish.rutgers.edu>, 
   kish@kish.rutgers.edu (Kish) writes:
> 
> ...       Lama Govinda                              
> then points us at Evans-Wentz's translation of "The Epitome of the
> Great Symbol (Mahamudra)" for further information.  On page 132 of
> "Tibetan Yoga and Secret Doctrines" we find the following:
> 
> 	(65) By tying the elephant of the mind to the pillar of
> 	the cognizing faculity and the cognizer, each of the 
> 	vital airs is kept in its own channel.
> 	(66) Through the effects produced by this practice there
> 	come smoke-like or ethereal shapes, and the ecstatic bliss
> 	whereby one almost swooneth.
> 
> (66) also has a footnote which states "These results are due to the
> vital airs (aka winds) finding their way into the the median nerve
> (Skt. sushumma-nadi), which is the chief channel for the flow of
> psychic forces ...".  This quote is very reminiscent of Harada Roshi
> admonishing students to "put their minds in the pit of their belly !".

According to Edgar Cayce there were originally 12 chakras but that the other
five atriphied through lack of use.  Each remaining chakra is associated with
an endocrine (duckless) gland in the physical body.  I think he placed one
of the five "missing" (ie no longer associated with an endocrine gland) in
the navel area - I'm not sure since I haven't read any of his books in over
ten years.  

If there were originally 12 chakras could they be associated with
the 12 meridians of acupuncture/acupressure in some way?

Have fun!

   =-Kathy->                                    waddell@firnvx.firn.edu
From: moskowit@panix.com (Len Moskowitz)
Subject: Re: Share International magazine:  November 1992 issue
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:13:46 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

>This is an abridged, electronic version of SHARE INTERNATIONAL magazine. The
>magazine has a non-paid staff only, carries no advertisements and is
>published by SHARE INTERNATIONAL FOUNDATION, a non-profit, non-governmental
>organization in association with the United Nations.

Seeing how this magazine is clearly a public relations vehicle for
Benjamin Creme, would the person who posted this please explain how the
United Nations is involved with its publication?

-- 
Len Moskowitz
moskowit@panix.com
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From: lpb@florida.swdc.stratus.com (Len Bucuvalas)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: July 4, 1992 - Global Spiritual Independence Day
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:23:27 GMT

In article <roelle.721602222@uars_mag> roelle@uars_mag.jhuapl.edu (Curtis Roelle) writes:
>John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>
>>... Her name is Sharula and that is the same name as a star
>>in the Scorpius (sometimes called Scorpio) constellation. 
>                  ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Scoropio is not a constellation; it is an astrological sign.  We 
>realize you are unable to distinguish between astrology and astronomy 
>John, as well as your other problem with fantasy V. reality. 

NOT! All astrological signs were/are named after
constellations....or is it the other way around?

either way.....the astrological sign has a counter part in the
sky as a constellation.

Buy a Sky & Telescope smeday ...or go to a library.....

Len

BTW: This "Sharula" is indeed a real flesh and blood person
who has adopted the name "Sharula". She claims to be a
"walkin" alien from anotehr star system. But then agan since I
have been in California....I have met hundreds of poeple who
could fit this description......out here the adage is:
If it moves at all...SELL IT!!!!!! ;^)

Sorry John...couldn't help myself.....The woman self-named
Sharula is a nice person and in no way must the above be
construed as an insult to either Sharula OR John Winston.
--
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The accountability of government has gone to the point where the very
use of the law is the instrument of illegality.
		-- Ralph Nader @ Harvard Law School, 1/15/92
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: UFOs and Newage
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 18:26:22 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
  <69682@cup.portal.com>

Dear Pyramid Folks: I just read a book about the pyramid of records 
that was mentioned by E. Cayce. Maybe I post something  about it later.
John Winston
From: lsg001@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Graham Wilson)
Subject: regulation
Organization: Legal Department - Coventry University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:26:04 GMT



** As a result of the Environmental Protection Act (1990) the regulation
   of pollution cannot be carried out by the polluter. For example, 
   the local authority were the pollution regulator, but at the same
   time they were also the polluter in carrying out there statutory
   waste collection duties.

   I was wondering how do other countries control the relationship
   between regulator and polluter ?


   Thanks.



   

-- 
         *********************************************************
         *      Graham Wilson      *  lsg001@cck.coventry.ac.uk  *
         *     LL.B.  Law  III     *     Coventry  University    *
         *********************************************************
From: 471-1@air.atmo.arizona.edu (E. Shane Jimerfield)
Newsgroups: talk.environment
Subject: Re: USA - Question
Date: 16 Nov 92 05:50:15 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson

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Subject: Re: USA - Question
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In article <Bxppn4.AAv@cck.coventry.ac.uk> lsg001@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Graham Wilson) writes:
>I gather that in many American states recycling has become compulsory.
>It is necessary for people to sort out their waste and place it into
>different bins. 
>
>I wanted to know what sort of states have this legislation and how does it
>work ? Is it effective ? Are there any problems ?

I live in Tucson, Az and a recycling program has recently been started
in my neighborhood. My city council person volinteered out neighborhood
for the debugging phase. He said that other council members are afraid
to start the program in their neighborhoods. You know how those urbanites
can be when it comes to doing the right thing.

Anyway, each house is given one container for their recyclables. You
can put aluminum, plastic, glass (all colors), paper, and cardboard.
There are some limitations like no glossy paper etc... The people have
a choice, they don't have to do it. I'm not sure what the plan is for
the future, that is when it becomes city wide.
-- 
Take 'er easy.... Shane
.watch out for the lightning (a large-scale high-tension natural electric
discharge in the atmosphere)......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
..informal... a sudden usually improbable stroke of fortune.......
From: IEGS@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA (IEGS)
Newsgroups: talk.environment
Subject: ENVIRONMENTAL ORGANIZATION
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:00:21 GMT
Organization: McGill University

I'M TAKING A JOB AS A SOCIAL STUDIES TEACHER AT A HIGH SCHOOL
IN DENVER, CO. DOES SOMEONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND A LIST OF LOCAL
ENVIRONMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT COULD COMETO SPEAK TO MY CLASSES
Please, reply to MC.BER
From: mrfgini@bu.edu (hedie park)
Newsgroups: talk.environment
Subject: Re: Animal Ethics?
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:55:43 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


	I am not a vegetarian, but I am against any type of 
hunting.  I understand people have to consume a variety of 
nutrients and many enjoy meat.  However, I can't see the
killing of an animal.  I for one love animals even if 
endangered.  They were put on this land to live a life
just like us humans, but we go and hunt them ending their
life without their consent or acknowledgement.  Those people
out there that do it as a sport, I can not respect!  That is 
just my opinion and I know I will get many responses against 
my feelings.  I just wanted to respond and voic





 
                          
Newsgroups: talk.environment,alt.urban.planning,talk.politics.misc,misc.headlines,soc.college,alt.activism
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: talk.environment
Subject: Re: HCFCs Not Enough of an Improvement (was: . . . Ozone-Friendly Fridge)
Date: 20 Nov 1992 04:43:34 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <Jym.19Nov1992.1646@naughty-peahen>, jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer) writes:
>> While it is true that HCFC's contribute to ozone depletion,
>> they are much less effective at this than CFC's.  Their ozone
>> depletion potentials range from about .01 to .1 (compared to
>> 1.0 for CFC-11).
>
>=-= This comparison is certainly true, but you neglect to
>address the magnitude of the damage being done.  HCFCs are
>just CFCs with hydrogen added to make them less stable, so
>that they break up sooner.
>
>=-= Given that CFCs yield 100 years of ozone depletion,
>"sooner" means (to use your statistics) "only" 1-10 years.
>This is better news, but it is by no means good news,
>especially for those who'll be spending time in the near
>future. :-|

Given that your description is accurate, then your conclusion is wrong.  If the
HCFCs get to the stratosphere as easily as do the CFCs and break down more
easily once they're there, then there wouldn't be any significant difference in
their effects on the ozone.  On the other hand, if the HCFCs are stable enough
to break down easily in the troposphere, then the total lag in effects on the
ozone will be the same, but the amount of catalyst involved will be cut by a
factor of 10.

The relative ease with which CFCs and HCFCs can break down would affect the
degree of ozone depletion, not the time scale on which the effects will be
seen.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
Newsgroups: talk.environment
From: andrewt@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Taylor)
Subject: Re: Animal Ethics?
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 05:21:26 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <2999.2B0D2CB5@catpe.alt.za> Graeme.Montagu@p0.f40.n7101.z5.fidonet.org (Graeme Montagu) writes:
> ... but I sincerely believe that hunting is justified.  It
> is a singularly major source of foreign investment in rural areas of
> sub-Saharan Africa.  Funds obtained from the trophy hunting of game is
> given back to the rural community of that area.  The animal carcass
> is also consumed by the locals.  In so doing, the continued existence
> of both endangered wildlife and local human community is ensured in
> co-existence.

Hunting is of limited value for species conservation. The habitats mainly used
for hunting (savannah, open woodland) tend to be adequately conserved for
other purposes (tourism, traditional pastoralists). The forests, large lakes
and fynbos are where most threatened species are found in sub-Saharan Africa.

Hunting is a useful source of foreign exchange for the countries that allow
it but, in countries like Zambia, I'm dubious that much money really reaches
the locals.

Hopefully one day all visitors will be able to look at a lion without
the urge to shoot it and drag its dismembered head home.

Andrew Taylor
Newsgroups: talk.environment
From: parson_r@cubldr.colorado.edu (Robert Parson)
Subject: <None>
Followup-To: talk.environment
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:08:30 GMT

In article <Jym.19Nov1992.1646@naughty-peahen>, Jym Dyer <jym@mica.berkeley.edu> writes:
>> While it is true that HCFC's contribute to ozone depletion,
>> they are much less effective at this than CFC's.  Their ozone
>> depletion potentials range from about .01 to .1 (compared to
>> 1.0 for CFC-11).
> 
> =-= This comparison is certainly true, but you neglect to
> address the magnitude of the damage being done.  HCFCs are
> just CFCs with hydrogen added to make them less stable, so
> that they break up sooner.
 (actually the H substitutes for Cl or F)
> 
> =-= Given that CFCs yield 100 years of ozone depletion,
> "sooner" means (to use your statistics) "only" 1-10 years.
> This is better news, but it is by no means good news,
> especially for those who'll be spending time in the near
> future. :-|
>
 The lifetimes of most HCFC's are short enough (~ a few years)
 that a good fraction of them will never reach the stratosphere at all.
 Actually, once they reach the strat. the short lifetime becomes a problem,
 rather than an advantage; it means that the chlorine is released more
 quickly. The ideal solution would be an HCFC that has a short tropospheric
 lifetime _and_ a long stratospheric lifetime. Unfortunately that's hard
 to arrange. (Except by going to HFC's, but these aren't suitable for as
 many applications as HCFC's).

 Since HCFC's and CFC's have similar physical properties, much of the 
 technology used for CFC's can be taken over. Their use, in a transitional
 role, can thus speed the phase-out of CFC's.  Provided the HCFC's are
 used in appropriate settings (e.g. in refrigeration, where the emission
 rate is very slow, as opposed to using them as solvents), this can outweigh
 the effects of the HCFC's themselves. At present human sources are responsible
 for ~75% of the chlorine in the stratosphere; most of the remainder comes from
 naturally-produced methyl chloride. There is little difference, then, between
 eliminating emissions entirely and reducing them by a factor of 100. We can't
 do that well with HCFC's, unfortunately, but we can go a long way. 
Newsgroups: talk.environment
From: Thomas Bjorkman <Thomas_Bjorkman@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: junk mail
X-Xxdate: Mon, 23 Nov 92 12: 17:33 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: tnb1@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:13:28 GMT

In article <1emn57INNeg7@aludra.usc.edu> Bob Murphy, rmurphy@usc.edu
writes:
  >I receive too much junk mail!  Is there any way to stop this?
  >
  >                    Thanks,
  >                        Bob Murphy (rmurphy@aludra.usc.edu)

The most efficient way to reduce junk mail,  send a request to the Direct
Marketing Associaton, MailPreference Service, P.O. Box 9008, Farmingdale,
N.Y., 11735. Requests should also be sent to National Demographics and
Lifestyles, List Order
Department, 1621 18th St., Suite 300, Denver, Colo., 80202.