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From: RONEAL@lexmark.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: indoor trainers
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:25:17 GMT
Organization: Lexmark International, Lexington, KY

In article <13312@ns-mx.uiowa.edu>
bonak@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Esmail Bonakdarian) writes:
 
>
>I am considering purchasing an indoor trainer for the cold Iowa
>winter months. What features should I be watching for? Any particular
>models you can recommend? How much should I expect to spend?
>
>I am not a racing type, I just want to stay in shape during the months
>I can't get out on the road.
>
>Also, I live in a small crowded apartment, so both noise and space
>(in addition to $$$ of course) are a consideration.
 
I caught a set of Minoura rollers with mag unit on clearance sale last year
for $110 that I think is great.  It simulates road conditions in that you
have to keep your balance and boy oh boy can you ride a straight line after
being on them for a while!  The rollers by their very nature will help you
balance the leg strength in your legs too.  The rollers I have are foldable
and will slip away into a small space.  They take up little more space than
your bike does while in use.  Mine are very quiet.  Yet my wife and kids
complain because of the fan I have pointing at me and the TV blaring above
the fan - I typically ride my rollers while watching Star Trek, The Next
Generation.
 
These things will flat wear you out!  You can *never* coast more than 2
seconds.  And you sweat like a horse... the fan helps though.  One thing
to watch... you might want to put down an old blanket under the rollers.
That way if you come off of them your tires won't burn the carpet.
 
Bike NASHBAR recently had a sale on their version of these without the mag
unit for $69 or so... they didn't fold but so what?!  Also, you can go a
long way without the mag unit.  If it gets too easy, deflate your tires a
little.  The resistance will be surprising.
 
One last thing.  Since the bike is not being abnormally suspended anywhere,
rollers are much easier structurally than many other trainers.  Your mileage
may vary...
 
 
Randy O'Neal  RONEAL@lexmark.com     Printer Attach Software Development
                                     Lexmark International, Inc.
-- Weinberg's Law --                 Lexington, Ky.
'If builders built buildings like
 programmers wrote programs, then                                     __o
 the first woodpecker that came      "The views above are not those  `\<,
 along would destroy civilization.'   of my employer... just mine."  O/ O
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: tan@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (David Tan,Box 219 Baker Lab,54810,2720402)
Subject: Re: Grig Lemmon? (was Re: Barry Tompkins (Was: Re: ESPN & Td
Originator: tan@msc2.msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:06:09 GMT

> nothing to do with the Danish pronunciation that sounds more like
> 'Kerben-how-n' as close as I can simulate the umlaut "oe" with "er".
						^^^^^^
You mean, of course, a "slash oe"

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,can.general,ont.general,soc.culture.canada,ott.general
From: ens@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Subject: Re: Bicycle Paths
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:16:37 GMT

In article <rjg.712440445@guinan> rjg@doe.carleton.ca (Richard Griffith) writes:
>
>How would you like it if every car that
>passed you on the road honked its horn as it passed you. This action indicates
>that the passing vehicle thinks you were not aware of or anticipating the
>the action of passing. Any vehicle or person on a roadway or bicycle path
>should always be aware of other vehicles, that is part of the responsibility
>of being on the roadway. If pedestrians on bike paths are not capable of
>being aware of their situation, or at least anticipating it, they are a 
>hazard.

Cars are more massive than bikes and they go faster. Pedestrians and
cyclists must take every precaution to avoid getting rear-ended by
them.  Being rear-ended by a cyclist is no picnic but it's worth
risking for the pleasure of walking side-by-side on a bike path.  If
cyclists routinely signal approach from the rear by ringing a bell (or
some standard signal), the risk is small.

>Honking and bells should be reserved for ``unusual situations'' otherwise they
>just become to common and end up being ignored.

Not in my experience in cities where bell-ringing is compulsory. On the
other hand, it seems more likely 'calling out' will be misunderstood or
ignored.

Werner
From: 880431j@dragon.acadiau.ca (Stacy Janes)
Subject: Re: Interesting facts about bicycles in Ontario (from MoT)
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:11:04 GMT

mcr@csi.on.ca (Michael Richardson) writes:


>  (gee, I'm not really sure I want to cross-post back to all those
>groups... I'm deleting some of them)

>In article <1992Jul28.124906.13822@dragon.acadiau.ca> 880431j@dragon.acadiau.ca (Stacy Janes) writes:
--> No I didn't =-) SJ

>>>from point A to point B, and when I'm walking, it's generally for 
>>>recreation/moderate exercise.  With this in mind, I always try to walk 
>>>*to one side* of the bike path so that cyclists do not have to slow down

>  Which side though?
>  If you walk on the right, then the cyclist has to `pass' you, or
>wait if there is another on-coming cyclist. If you walk on the left,
>cyclists coming at you have to change langes (which is probably
>better, since you will see them, and see if they are paying attention)

>>>where you can walk.  In Brittania, I'm always surprised to find people
>>>walking on the (hard) paths when they could walk on nice soft grass in 
>>>the park and enjoy better scenery at the same time.  Go figure.

>  Yeah...

--> This stuff is mine though SJ

>>is that the further east you get, the worse the path gets.  Try the
>>parkway.  Except for the construction part (bicycles are not allowed there
>>anyway), it is IMHO more relaxing than path traffic, and since it follows
>>the river, you get mostly the same scenery.  I ride almost every day from 
>>and have had no problems.

>  The section where the pathway crosses the road away from the river
>shore (from just west of Woodroff, to just west of Parkdale) is some
>of the worst maintained bike paths around. When I was cycling to work
>(downtown to Kanata --- I've stopped for awhile because I was
>exhausting myself trying to beat my previous day's time...) I took the
>parkway itself between those two points. Lots of nice buses to run one
>over, and some house sized pot-holes, but at least there wasn't an
>unavoidable crack across the road every ten feet.

The buses are no problem because they travel only in one lane.  I usually ride
in the other, the pavement is not as battered (no heavy buses tearing it
up).  As for the potholes, they too are *mostly* in the bus lanes, but
if the construction ever gets finished, nice smooth pavement =-)..
>-- 

Stacy Janes	Bell_Northern Research,	Ottawa, Ontario

** Standard disclaimers Apply **
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: croft@csusac.csus.edu (Steve Croft)
Subject: Re: Lack of TT bike (was: Greg L. and TdF helment usage)
Keywords: helmet (sp, sorry) not a flame war please!!!!
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 16:19:37 GMT

>...  Second, he was not on a time trialing bike like 
>the majority of the riders were.  His affinity toward the latest technology 
>was, for some reason, ignored (other than the aerobars) in the first ITT.

LeMond has stated that wind tunnel tests have shown that, for his riding
position, a special bike provides no big advantage.  So he uses a normal
bike, which gives him better control.  Those same tests showed that LeMond
has a very good aerodynamic riding position.

steve
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: MTB Touring (was: Touring bicycles -- an extict breed?)
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:48:01 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

I'm pretty curious about recombents. Isn't the much lower position
increasing your chances of an accident? What about attaching
panniers etc? The long wheelbase looks like it pretty seriously harms
the manuveurability of the bike.

And lastly, here in the San Francisco bay area we have lots of
10% and greater hills to climb. In fact, most of the good riding 
is in the hills since the traffic is more limited. Although I
have seen a couple of recumbents running about they always seem a 
great deal slower than your standard safety bike. So how are they
in real hills?
Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:19383 ont.general:1359 can.general:3717
From: tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,ont.general,can.general
Subject: Jobst's Sunglasses
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:48:51 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

Too late Brandt, you can't grump your way out of it.

You wear sunglasses and if I read you right they're probably 
some good one's. Cheesy Safeway darkies would work as good as
anything else for preventing snow-blindness.

:-) :-) :-)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,sci.med
From: sham@cs.arizona.edu (Shamim Zvonko Mohamed)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Ontario government releases revised bicycle policy
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:03:22 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <m8nm9tc.tomk@netcom.com> tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich) writes:
>The author of the helmet bill for requiring mandatory helmet use
>for motorcyclists in California held a pres conference twherein
>he stated that his helmet bill had saved many many lives and saved
>the public some millions of dollars.

Are you speaking of "Dick" Floyd? His claim was that uninsured motorcyclists
cost the state $60 million a year in head injuries. Of course, the facts were
otherwise - the $60 million figure he was using was for *all* health-care costs
(not costs the state had to pay) from *all* traffic incidents in California. In
fact compared to car drivers, a higher percentage of motorcyclists had adequate
health insurance.

Rule #0: Never believe anything a politician says.

>Later on a motorcycle lobbyist group showed numbers that revealed that
>ridership was down 40%-60% and that fatalities were actually up from
>last year. So the California experience has been that the motorcycle
>industry has been greatly injured and the public safety has actually
>lost ground.

Actually for the first 3 months of 1992, fatalities did decrease (compared to
the first three months of 1991), but by about the same percentage as ridership.
(Of course there was a certain disturbed person who committed suicide because
he could no longer ride his motorcycle bare-headed. So the helmet law did
"cause" a death.)

(Note to inattentive readers: nowhere in this article do I state my views pro
or con helmet usage or helmet laws. Rule #24(b)1: Never take anything on Usenet
at face value - including this article.)

-s
--
Henri Desgrange, 1902: "Variable gears are only for people over forty-five.
Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles rather than by the
artifice of a derailleur? We are getting soft. Come on, fellows. Let's say that
the test was a fine demonstration---for our grandparents! As for me, give me a
fixed gear!"

  Shamim Mohamed / {uunet,noao,cmcl2..}!arizona!shamim / shamim@cs.arizona.edu
 Member of the League for Programming Freedom - write to league@prep.ai.mit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: blagdon@engin.umich.edu (Kenneth James Clark )
Subject: Re: Another Novice Gearing Question
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 08:28:47 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1992Jul21.212536.20505@src.honeywell.com> shankar@src.honeywell.com (Subash Shankar) writes:
>
>Suppose you have two approximately equal gear choices:
>  52 X 17
>  42 X 14
>Are there pros and cons for choosing between the two?
>For some reason, I tend to find the latter easier for
>hills (small Minnesota-type hills), and the former easier 
>on the flats.  Is there a reason for this?

I would use those gears the same way as you suggested for those situations,
but not because one or the other is easier.  Using those combos in those
situations gives you a better set of options for your next shift.  That is,
you are more likely going to want to have your upper gears available on
a flat run, and a lower range available in a hilly region.  In general,
you have more upper gears with the larger chainring and more lower gears
with the smaller chainring (sometimes I use my gear chart, sometimes I
don't).

Ken
From: jwgst2+@pitt.edu (James W Gourgoutis)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: UG vs. HG chain...
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:55:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Dear Rec.Bicycles:

	As you may remember, I posted a few weeks ago regarding the project
I am presently working on:  I am building a mountain bike.

	My problem is this.  I have a chain which has UG stamped on each
sideplate.  I am assuming that this means that this chain is a Uniglide chain.
From what I understand, UG chains are not compatible with Hyperglide.  I am
getting a set of wheels with Hyperglide cogs, so I need a compatible chain.
HOWEVER, a friend of mine has an MTB with Hyperglide cogs, and HIS chain
also has UG stamped on it.  The only visual difference between his chain and
mine is that his also has "Deore" and "narrow" stamped on it, while mine only 
has "narrow" stamped on it.  Here's the kicker:  his bike works fine!
	If UG and HG are not compatible, then why does his bike work?  And if
his bike works, then can I use my UG chain with my new HG-equipped wheels?
Maybe it's just that with a non-HG chain, the FULL advantages of HG can not
be used, but it will still work.  My friend's bike shifts as quickly and as
accurately as any other bike I have seen.
	Please Help!  If I can use this chain, I'd like to, since I'm getting
DESPERATELY short on cash, and can't afford another order from Nashbar!
(Although if I could, I'd get me a Sedis ATB chain!)
 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
James Gourgoutis       				   
Mechanical Engineering                                O   
University of Pittsburgh                           _ /__,     
e-mail me at:  JWGST2@unixd.cis.pitt.edu          (_) /(_) 
Thanks!
From: ams@watson.ibm.com (Aaron Shtromas)
Subject: Re: LEMOND BASHERS?
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 11:08:10 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <1992Jul21.093645.7689@vax.oxford.ac.uk>, ftgcdj@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
|> Lemond bashers, eh? OK, so I'm not a big fan of Lemond, but I do admire his
|> achievements. As for all the Lemond bashers trying to climb Alpe d'Huez just
|> the once, well if I got paid $1 million a year to ride a bike, then I'd be up
|> le Alpe like a shot.
|> 
|> You are all overlooking the real reason for Greg's retirement. *TIRED LEGS*. In
|> past years, Greg has concentrated solely on the Tour. This year, he has ridden
|> the Tour de Trump (and won), the Giro (top 5 placing), and now the Tour. I
|> wonder if all that riding was wise. I heard a romour that "Z" virtually told
|> him to ride the Tour de Trump, because they needed a win, and needed Greg to
|> win on "home ground".
|> 
|> On our TV coverage of the Tour, Greg was interviewed after retiring, and he said
|> that his cardiovascular system was fine, his back and knees were not too bad,
|> but that his legs were just so tired. He was dropped very early on (in the first
|> few km), and he and Duclos-Lassale retired at the feeding station.
|> 
|> He will be back. He has come back from greater adversity. 
|> 
|> -------
|> Charles

-- 

he did not ride giro (but indurain did. and won!)

aaron
From: ekp@mcnc.org (Edward Pavelchek)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: CHEAP, SAFE tires????
Keywords: blowouts, sidewall cuts, Performance
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:24:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Good place for a disclaimer

I had already decided not to buy any more Performance  basic tires
because of sidewall cuts, but one was still on the bike.  Coming down a
rather steep hill Sun, a pedestrian caused a hurried brake application,
locking up the rear wheel, which instantly flatted, after wearing
through the rubber, cord and tube.   Is this a normal disaster I just
haven't read about yet?

Is there an inexpensive, heavy, cheap tire  for someone who wants 
it to last at least a couple low mileage years?   Something in a 
27x1 1/4?  
-- 
And if your hand or foot offend you,         Ed Pavelchek   ekp@mcnc.org
  Cut it off, lad, and be whole;
But play the man, stand up and end you,
  When your sickness is your soul.           AE Housman
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,can.general,ont.general,soc.culture.canada,ott.general
From: tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich)
Subject: Re: Interesting facts about bicycles in Ontario (from MoT)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 02:15:06 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

If bicycle paths are so safe, why is it that most of them
have a 15mph speed limit?
From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Bad Accident
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:00:33 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <Jul.27.15.59.50.1992.18526@pilot.njin.net> birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag) writes:

>1. I wouldn't be caught dead without a helmet.

Hey, now wait a minute............... :-)
-- 
Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
From: jaw38638@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jason Andrew Weber)
Subject: Re: Help with an elusive creak?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:41:50 GMT

I have a creak too.  My creak is caused by the seat loosening up from the
seat post, and creaking.  The only time it creaks is on the down strokes.
You may have some sort of variance of this problem.  The only way that I've
found to solve it is to spray the connection with teflon, and to continually
tighten that bolt.


Jason Weber
weber@cerl.cecer.army.mil | If an armpit is a pit under the arm, what's a
jaw38638@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu | cockpit???????
From: ccoprbm@prism.gatech.EDU (bruce mccullough)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Bike Nashbar
Keywords: n
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:03:25 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <19777@leadsv.UUCP> netnews@leadsv.UUCP (Leads Network News) writes:
>> Has anyone ever dealt with or ordered from Bike Nashbar out of
>>Youngstown,Ohio? I was thinking about ordering a few items.
>New to cycling ?
>From: trich@fsg.UUCP (Terry Richards)
>Path: fsg!trich
No not quite. Just curious as to general opinions. I've never had to order
from anywhere because my ex-hometown had a great bike shop!!
Don't assume to much from one post.

-- 
Bruce Mccullough-Tech Assistant   | "The sharpest sword cannot cut itself".
Office of Information Technology  | "Look into the book of mirrors and find 
Georgia Institute of Technology   | all the knowledge you will ever need to  
Internet: ccoprbm@prism.gatech.edu| know". -    The Teacher
From: allard@isi.edu (Dennis Allard)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: LeMond is officially gone.
Date: 22 Jul 92 01:47:19 GMT
Reply-To: allard@isi.edu (Dennis Allard)
Distribution: world
Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute

wcd2z@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (William Camden Daniel) writes:
> Well I take it back.  When I saw it on CNN they said nothing
> about Hampsten's victory.  It was just the typical lame
> American mediea coverage of the race.  If I had know that an
> American had won the Alp de Huez I would have never made my
> comment about it being a sad day.  Please accept my apologies
> 
>                                              Bill

Every day is a sad day as concerns American network coverage of sports and
any other news item.  ESPN is not one of the networks I am referring to.
Personally, I have deselected the national networks form my remote control
unit.

Dennis
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich)
Subject: Re: Help! Knee Pain
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 19:00:33 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Keywords: knee, pain, beginner

Chandy, you must be _very_ specific about where and what the
knee pain is. If it is in the center and perhaps underneath
the patela it can be one thing. If in the center and just above
the patela another. To the left or right sides are other problems.

What you have is probably simple overuse strain. Ice it down for
20 minutes after riding and take anti-inflamatories such as 
aspirin or ibuprofin. After an easy warmup be sure and stretch
fully and gently.

Basically, listen to your body and don't pedal so hard that you
cause pain.

If there is a grating feeling underneath the patela be sure and
consult a doctor that specializes in sports medicine. Make sure
that you have the bike fit, particularly the seat height adjustment
correctly set.

But don't be too worried, injuries from cycling that aren't
transitory are unusual. Unless you crash as hard as I do.
From: jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Commuting Info Wanted
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:22:38 GMT
Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu

> where you commute, the distance, obstacles, weather, etc, plus
> any [advice] and tips I could pass along.

=o= I live in *Northern* California, which is very different
from Southern California (a completely different state, as
far as I'm concerned).  I used to have a 40-mile commute, but
now I live 6 miles from work.  We don't get a lot of rain, but
we do get some, and I commute in it when we get it.  I use a
good windbreaker and rainpants in those cases -- I might get
one of those clip-on mud splashguards.

=o= Here are some obstacles I encounter:

 o The drivers here seem to be more courteous than anywhere else
   I've commuted by bike, but that's still not quite courteous
   enough.  Bike lanes really do help with this, in my opinion.

 o Some neighborhoods are too dangerous to travel in at night.
   I've been subjected to two attempted attacks and one almost-
   successful attack.  There must be bike routes/lanes on well-
   travelled streets.

 o I've worked in a number of places where bicycle commuting
   was popular.  One thing I've noticed and which you might
   expect is unequal representation by gender.  Many women I
   know feel too vulnerable riding a bicycle in the city (though
   I've seen a compelling article in _MudFlap_ by a woman who's
   experienced *less* harassment from bicycling because she gets
   to travel door-to-door).

=o= I have in the past commuted to work in Western Pennsylvania
(hills and rain) and Central Massachusetts (rain and insane
drivers from nearby Boston).  These commutes were a real drag
at times, but mostly because I had a low-quality road bike.

=o= Bike commuting is freezing snowy climes is possible:  I
could keep warm in part because of the act of pedalling, but
keeping dry was the important part.  Skinny road bike tires
don't do too well in the snow, though.

=o= Some tips (most are obvious):  Have showers and locker
rooms, have a means for the employees to bring bikes indoors,
keep an eye out for cleaning & maintenance issues, and give all
bike commuters $1000 bonuses so they can get nice bikes. :-)
    <_Jym_>