From: dowdy@tochtli.biochem.nwu.edu (Dowdy Jackson)
Subject: Re: W.C. of AfAms
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:23:21 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.170720.1736@anasaz> john@anasaz (John Moore) writes:
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>In article <1992Apr12.214555.20288@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> dowdy@tochtli.biochem.nwu.edu (Dowdy Jackson) writes:
>]In article <1992Apr11.162024.9268@anasaz> john@anasaz (John Moore) writes:
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>The MESSAGE she gets is that you worth is related to your skin color
>and sex. As far as old-boy systems, these have always existed and always
>will, but the US has less of that than many countries.
>
Whats sad about this is that your daughter is yet another generation of 
students that will think that the black students they encounter will be
less intellegent than they are. The only black students that get any respect
will be those that beat your daughter and others like her that may think
that way. No one ever looks at a white student and says that they are less
qualified to be at university X eventhough they may do poorly.

>If AA is for what you say, it wouldn't have black-only scholarships, it
>would just outlaw white-only scholarships. Come to think of it, have you
>EVER seen a white-only scholarship?
>
There are plenty of scholarships where the majority of the recipients are 
white. I haven't seen any black only awards but I have seen minority only
awards.

>]>Furthermore, as soon as AA is government sanctioned, it leads to quotas
>]>because this is the only way a business or government agency can defend
>]>itself against lawsuits.
>]>
>]Businesses must show that they have made a satisfactory effort to recruit 
>]qualified minorities. They are not mandated by law to hire them. The question
>]arises when you see alot of whites being hired in an area that has a high
>]number of non whites present as well. There are have been numerous cases of
>]whites not hiring AfAms regardless of their qualifications. Just recently
>]it was reported that when qualifications are equal between white and
>]black applicants, the whites are three times more likely to be hired than
>]the black. As long as such discrepancies exist there is still a need for
>]AA laws.
>
>Let's come down from the ivory tower and look at the real world. In
>today's litigous society, there is no way to show "satisfactory effort"
>without setting numerical quotas. This is the problem - it forces
>racial discrimination.

If you haven't noticed there was a study which showed that when everything is
equal between the white applicant and the black applicant, the white applicant
is 3 times more likely to get the job over the black applicant. As long as situatuions like this exist there is a need for AA.

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>Now you are passing the buck. Racism is the result of a person being
>racist. It is not a justified "response" to white racism - "two wrongs
>don't make a right." People who take responsibility for their own actions
>will not blame their racism on others!
>
If you hit me and I hit you back isn't that a justifiable response to 
your actions ?

>I know a lot of white people, but I know none who are oppressing blacks.
>
Well judging from what you have said before especially about the stuff you
are laying on you child I would have to disagree with you on this point. 
You are giving rise to another generation of confused children... Thanks alot.

Dowdy Jackson
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