HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: skaven@carson.u.washington.edu (Willilam Gilliland)
Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
Subject: Re: messages on floor
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:02:38 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <Bw64oC.53s@news.cso.uiuc.edu> rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Walrus and April) writes:
>
>I've gotten that one too, and still don't know what it means.  I've also 
>gotten this one:
>
>"You'll never get it past the stairs"
>
>It's engraved on the floor, and I have no idea what it means.  
>
>The Walrus

WHAT???   Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!  That is a tribute to the first text 
adventure game ever written, the Colossal Cave.  There was a puzzle that if
you tried to take a treasure up the staircase it would teleport back to where
you found it.  That's really rich...

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He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep.            
-- Rob him.
He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a politician.
-- Elect him.
He who knows not, and knows that he knows not, is innocent.
-- Lie to him.
He who knows, and knows that he knows, is dangerous.
-- Kill him.
Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
From: pawlak@vxdesy.desy.de
Subject: Unusual death
Organization: (DESY, Hamburg, Germany)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 05:57:21 GMT

861  Jmp-K died on dungeon level 4.                          -  [34]
     Killed by a potion of unholy water.

Now, that's what I call devotion!
                                           Michal
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Sorry, no .sig this time. Better luck next message!
Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
From: rik@den.mmc.com (Rick Nelson)
Subject: O.K. Statues, what good are they
Originator: rik@sandia
Keywords: statues, useless, polypiling
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics, Denver
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 01:54:34 GMT


O.K. I know I'm a beginner, but what good are statues besides have one come to life once in a while and being a pest!  If there is a good reason let me know...   Also everyone is talking about polypiling, HUH?  whats polypiling...   And while I'm at it, when using the chat command, and it asks you what? is there any ideas here, how can I make use of this...  Can I find out what diety(god) is mine before I pray?

Thanks for any Ideas.


Rik

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From: bill@snoopy (Bill Poitras)
Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
Subject: Re: Alright, another mystery message
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:39:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: msi.1992Oct8.183945.15731
Reply-To: bill@msi.com
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

The Grim Reaper (scythe@byron.u.washington.edu) wrote:
: New mystery message-
: "What would you write, Jonah was here?"
: Guesses anyone?

You tried to write when you were swallowed by some monster.

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| (bill)          | Sunnyvale, CA USA             |                         | 
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Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: My 2 stupid deaths
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:43:18 GMT

In article <2207@dutiws.tudelft.nl> holland@dutiws.tudelft.nl (Gerhard den Hollander) writes:
>-You tear out your armor -more-
>So i lost
>a +5 Gray Dragon scale mail
>a +5 Mummy wrapping
>a +5 Cloak of displacement

You can't wear a mummy wrapping and a cloak of displacement at the same time...
--
"the bogosity in a field equals the bogosity imported from related areas, plus
the bogosity generated internally, minus the bogosity expelled or otherwise
disposed of."  -- K. Eric Drexler

Ken Arromdee (UUCP: ....!jhunix!arromdee; BITNET: arromdee@jhuvm;
     INTERNET: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
From: fmessing@tjhsst.vak12ed.edu (Frederick A. Messing)
Subject: What's Hack?
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Fairfax)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 13:43:49 GMT

I'm new to this whole concept of networks, so please tolerate
my ignorance on any related topics.
Really, I only have one question:  What's Hack?  The
description for this news group mentions that it's a game.  If
so, where is it and how can I play?  Any response would be
appreciated...
From: bandu@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jagath Samarabandu)
Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
Subject: Re: fake amulet?
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:32:57 GMT
Organization: SUNY/Buffalo Electrical Eng.

In article <SREAD.92Oct6095910@kipling.webo.dg.com> sread@kipling.webo.dg.com
(Steve Read) writes:
>But are reports that the wizard will sometimes steal an unidentified
>cheap plastic imitation and leave you with the real thing correct?

Yes. That happened to me once when I had both the real and fake ones identified
in my possession. 

Bandu
From: rmh@itd.dsto.gov.au (Roger Helbig)
Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
Subject: The case of the deceptive dog, and other ramblings
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:02:42 GMT
Reply-To: rmh@itd.dsto.gov.au
Organization: Defence Science & Technology Organisation


Something strange happed in my current game... I'd just found a bones
level with a lot of stuff on it, and was trying to find out if some
rings were cursed or not.  So I dropped a few rings around and waited
to see if my dog stepped on them.  To make sure the pet stayed close to
me, I leashed it.  Anyway, the dog stepped on a ring, so I tried it on.
It was cursed!!!  Maybe being on the leash made the dog step on a cursed
object... anybody know?  Had to get a nymph steal the ring - all the
fountains dried up when I tried to #dip it.

This game is my best start with a wizard for a long time.  The main
reasons why I'm still alive are (i) ring of regeneration (started with
it) and (ii) the +4 cloak of displacement I found on level 1!  The
baddies sure have a tough time hitting me when I'm wearing the cloak.
Also have Fire Brand and Dragonbane from an altar - people have said
that Fire Brand / Frost Brand are better than Excalibur.  The problem
is that Fire Brand's fire damage won't do me much good in Hell, since
all monsters there are fire resistant... right?  Maybe I'll try to get
Frost Brand by sacrificing as well.

Another interesting item which I have is a flute - I assume it's a magic
flute, although I haven't id'd it yet.  When I #apply it and improvise,
I "produce soft music" and all monsters go to sleep.  I lost my first
pet this way - it wouldn't wake up!  After throwing food and objects at
it, even kicking it, I eventually just left it behind.  Questions: is the
sleep effect actually permanent?  I presume elves and such are immune.
Does the flute have only a certain number of charges, like a frost horn?
I thought a magic flute tamed monsters, rather than sending them to sleep,
or am I thinking of a magic harp?

-=-
Roger
From: block@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Henri A Block)
Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
Subject: Re: The case of the deceptive dog, and other ramblings
Date: 10 Oct 92 15:48:33 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In <1992Oct9.212330.14605@slate.mines.colorado.edu> agrimm@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Snarf) writes:

>rmh@itd.dsto.gov.au (Roger Helbig) writes:
>
>: This game is my best start with a wizard for a long time.  The main
>: reasons why I'm still alive are (i) ring of regeneration (started with
>: it) and (ii) the +4 cloak of displacement I found on level 1!  The
>: baddies sure have a tough time hitting me when I'm wearing the cloak.
>: Also have Fire Brand and Dragonbane from an altar - people have said
>: that Fire Brand / Frost Brand are better than Excalibur.  The problem
>: is that Fire Brand's fire damage won't do me much good in Hell, since
>: all monsters there are fire resistant... right?  Maybe I'll try to get
>: Frost Brand by sacrificing as well.
>:
>I'd use Excalibur, personally.  Protection from level drain, constant
>damage (as opposed to variable), and easy to get.

+0 Excalibur is better than +0 Fire/Frost brand,
but if you don't care about the prot. from level drain then 
+6 Fire/frost brand is better than +6 Excalibur
Excalibur does 7-16 extra damage so average is 11.5 
when F brand does always 12 e. d. and average is 12

When enchantment is low Excalibur is better, but when it's high I prefer
Frost brand. Ofcourse a +6 Mjolly does average 18.5 (7-30) but the thing
that with F. brands the extra damage is allways the same makes them more
preferrable to me.
(And here aren't even th other bonuses: blessed weapon vs. demon etc.)

>: Roger
>-- 
>Snarf (alias Andy Grimm) agrimm@mines.colorado.edu  |      Cheery thought
>"And if I refuse?"                                  |       for the day:
>"If you refuse, you die, she dies, EVERYBODY dies." | Jump off a cliff, 20,000
>Sounded reasonable to me!              -Heavy Metal | lemmings can't be wrong!

 -HB-
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Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
From: snelling@bnr.ca (Peter Snelling)
Subject: Ring of Conflict (Was: Polypiling)
Reply-To: snelling@bnr.ca (Peter Snelling)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 17:19:02 GMT

In article <1bbb2oINNhl@agate.berkeley.edu>, tom@soda.berkeley.edu (Tom Holub) writes:

|> If you make polypiling affect, say, the top 5 items of the pile, and make
|> wands of wishing, say, be unrechargable or have a max of 1 charge, and
|> make rings of conflict give monsters, say, a 50% chance each round of
|> attacking each other, you still have all the tricks, but you've
|> improved the balance of the game immensely.
|>  -Tom

In an old version of nethack, the ring of conflict made the monsters attack
any adjacent monster -- including you.  Currently the ring seems to make
the monsters ignore you completely if there is another monster nearby.
I think this aspect of it may be a little too powerful.
-- 
Peter Snelling
Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
From: dif@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au (David Faulkner)
Subject: Re: Nymphs/Leprachauns
Organization: BHP Steel, Sheet & Coil, Research & Technology Centre
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 00:27:01 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.060306.5901@nevada.edu>, funky@nevada.edu (MATTHEW KAPHAN) writes:
> What is the method to keep nymphs from stealing things from me, and 
> lepracauns also?  I just started playing the game, and I'm having a lot
> of trouble staying alive unless i'm in exploratory mode.  Any hints to help
> me out?

Spoilers!

The best method of avoiding problems with nymphs and leprechauns is not
to wake them (if the nymph appears at a fountain, bad luck).

Leprechauns are easy anyway, just drop all your gold before you enter the
room with the leprechaun.

A wand of cancellation will stop a nymph stealing from you. Failing
that, she will steal a ring of adornment first. If you have a mirror,
#apply it at the nymph and the nymph will steal the mirror rather than
anything else more important. They often seem to prefer your shield and
other rings, too, (this is just a personal observation, may or may not
be correct).  So if you can have a couple of encounters without having
the nymph steal anything important, you have a fair chance of killing
her. Throwing weapons are very handy for the purpose of weakening the
nymph.

A potion of speed makes it very easy.

If you find the nymph has stolen lots of your stuff, it may be an idea
to go back up a level or two and collect lots of junk, which lessens the
chance that your armour and good weapons will be lost in the next
encounter or two.

Unfortunately, sometimes you just have to accept the fact that the
little #@*?$! has stolen everything you have and you are about to die a
painful (naked) death.

  -dif-

(By the way, has anyone noticed that sometimes the nymph doesn't seem to
want to steal any more stuff after a few encounters, and you can just
chase and kill her. Do nymphs have carrying capacity? Is it my
imagination?)
-- 
Dave Faulkner, Research Engineer                    (dif@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au)
BHP Coated Products Division, Research and Technology Centre
Port Kembla, New South Wales, Australia.
From: holland@dutiws.tudelft.nl (Gerhard den Hollander)
Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
Subject: Re: What happened to my max hp?
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:45:25 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology

In article <1992Oct14.213857.10535@uoft02.utoledo.edu> cstrom@astro1.phya.utoledo.edu (Chris Strom) writes:
>: A few turns later, he reappears, and I look at my hit points.
>: I have 10(10).  A while back my max hit points were 95 or so.
>: Anyone have any idea what happened?  
>: I'm not sure exactly when it changed, but when I put on my ring of
>: regeneration, I'm pretty sure it was 15(95) or so.

Hmm, this happens to me often,
I believe this is what happens when some ugly creature (NAGA etc)
attacks you/spells you when you're not (magic) protected.

This has never happened to me while being (magic) protected,
so I think it's a magic attack


Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
From: news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System)
Subject: Re: boy how to get really pissed off!
Organization: DSIR, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 02:44:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.113859.5808@rtf.bt.co.uk> fletcher@rtf.bt.co.uk (Catherine Fletcher) writes:

>leachb@amdahl2.lat.oz.au (Mr Phase) writes:
>> 
>> Welcome to nethack:
>> Saved level is out of date-more-
>> 
>> the fix:
>> 
>> /************ unixunix.c ***********/

>I've got this problem with my PC Nethack - any fixes?  (I'm not a programmer)

>:-(

>-- 
> Catherine 

I had a similar problem with my PC nethack 'saved game out of date' or some 
such message. I fixed it by looking at the date on the file in question 
and changing my PC's system date to something closer to it. (type date at 
the DOS prompt)

This may or may not help... but I hope it does :-)

Dale Ogilvie
Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
Subject: PC Nethack query
From: comjohn@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Mr. John T Jensen)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:29:25 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.


My 12-year old has asked me to post three questions about PC nethack (sorry,
don't know what version he has):

1)      He has found half a dozen or so throne rooms, killed all the
	monsters, and sits on the throne.  When he does, he is told
	"you feel out of place" and the throne disappears.  Has anyone
	any comment?

2)	He knows how to get Excalibur, but wants to know how to get:

-	a katana named Snickersnee
-	a war hammer named Mjollnir
-	a broadsword named Stormbringer

3)	The verb 'pray' does not give a syntax error, but 'offer' does.
	There are altars.  Any suggestions?

jj

John Thayer Jensen                      64 9 373 7599 ext. 7543
Commerce Computer Services              64 9 373 7437 (FAX)
Auckland University                     jt.jensen@aukuni.ac.nz
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Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
From: rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Walrus and April)
Subject: Re: messages on floor
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:07:23 GMT

In article <Bw4DtC.9EH@news.iastate.edu> thanatos@iastate.edu (Bradley C Karsjens) writes:
>I have recently found this on the floor several times. What does it mean? or,
>more importantly, what is it useful for?
>
>Something is written here in the dust.  You read: "ad ?e?ar um".

I've gotten that one too, and still don't know what it means.  I've also 
gotten this one:

"You'll never get it past the stairs"

It's engraved on the floor, and I have no idea what it means.  

The Walrus
From: rmh@itd.dsto.gov.au (Roger Helbig)
Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
Subject: Re: Alright, another mystery message
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:57:30 GMT
Reply-To: rmh@itd.dsto.gov.au
Organization: Defence Science & Technology Organisation


>|> New mystery message-
>|> "What would you write, Jonah was here?"
>|> Guesses anyone?
>|> 
>Good one!
>
>You get it when you try to write (Enscribe) when you're inside
>a trapper (or some other monster).
>
>-- 
>Peter Snelling

Funny... after reading this I was engulfed by an ochre jelly,
so I tried to get this message.  What I got was something like:

"You tickle the inside of the ochre jelly -more-
 Your message dissolves"

-=-
Roger
Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
From: mrmarcel@eos.ncsu.edu (MICHAEL RONN MARCELAIS)
Subject: Re: Polymorphing Self
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:48:11 GMT

In article <Bw64xH.57o@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Walrus and April) writes:
|> [Mucho stuff about leprechauns and nymphs deleted]
|> 
|> Speaking of polymorphing, I recently acquired a ring of polymorph and a ring 
|> of polymorph control while making a foray into Hell.  After uncursing them, I
|> tried them out to see how polymorphing works (never done it willingly before),
|> and turned into a vampire lord, then a vampire, a tengu, and a lich, just for
|> fun.  Now I'm trying to turn back, and I don't know how.  It doesn't accept
|> "Enchanter" (my level title), "Wizard" (my class), "Damon" (my name), or even
|> "human" or "man" (you figure it out :)).  What am I doing wrong?  Should I 
|> just take the rings off for awhile, or is there a trick to it?  Please don't 
|> tell me I'm stuck as a lich/vampire/whatever I turn into....that would be 
|> really annoying.
|> 
|> Thanks for any help.
|> 
|> The Walrus
|> 
|> 
|> 

If you take off your ring of polymorph, you will eventually change back into a
human.  Also, if you 'die' as another monster type, you revert back into human
form, minus a few HP's.

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From: scythe@byron.u.washington.edu (The Grim Reaper)
Subject: Re: messages on floor
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:06:49 GMT

In article <cer=Vri00Uh7E8FKg=@andrew.cmu.edu> jbbb+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joshua John Buergel) writes:
>>I have recently found this on the floor several times. What does it mean? or,
>>more importantly, what is it useful for?
>> 
>>Something is written here in the dust.  You read: "ad ?e?ar um".
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>never figured out exactly what it says, but it appears to be latin of
>some sort.  At any rate, search the walls right next to where you find
>the message, and you'll find a secret door.  Ten to one it will be into
>a 'closet', or a pasage of only one place.  Odds are there will also be
>a trap in this closet, so searching for a while standing in the doorway
>is a good idea, usually.  Often it will be a teleportation trap that
>will put you into a vault on the level (if there is one).  Make sure you
>have some way to get out of the vault before you pop through.
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>Joshua Buergel      | Every time she slit her wrists
>allroy+@cmu.edu     | I wish she hit instead of missed.
>jbbb@andrew.cmu.edu | Every secret family crime
>                    | All my love a waste of time.
>                    |    - ALL, Scary Sad

I've only had a year of Latin (only?), but to my knowledge it means 
(roughly) "to gold". If you search by it, there should be a secret door.
If you open the door (usually locked) there should be a trap on the other
side of the door.  The trap usually teleports you to the Magic Memory Vault,
but on lower levels it is often a trapdoor or level teleporter.

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From: dcb@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Predecrement David)
Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
Subject: Monster Spells
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:40:34 GMT
Organization: Tomobiki-cho

The spell-casting monsters are a lot more capable than I thought.  
Did you know that the monsters also cast haste self, and healing?  
There are no messages for that stuff though.  (I think it would be 
fun if there were.)

Also, some monsters have a whole host of cleric spells that I never
see getting cast:

Holding
Wounds  (OK, I saw this once...)
Blindness
Sticks to Snakes (or Ants)
Confusion

We should definitely have more monsters that cast these spells.  So far,
only one type of monster casts these.  Do you know which? 

--David
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