From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: Aes Sedai
Keywords: Sedai, Templar, Masonry
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 18:00:34 GMT

erica@cc.gatech.edu (Erica Liebman):
>P & M : Pippin and Merry are the primary sidekicks of Frodo as Matrim and
> Perrin are of Rand.  Notice (I got a kick out of this) that he took bits of
>the two names and mixed 'em up!

Good observation!  (Gee, I missed that.  Uh... it *could* be coincidence. :)

^L
>1. Rand, the dragon, is the son of the wife of the brother of the king
>who is the father of Lan.

Um, no.  That's Isam.  The reason Rand's father let himself be killed
is that Isam has merged with Lan, who *is* related.  Rand is the son
of Tigraine, queen of Andor, by an Aiel.

>2. He has a brother who is part cousin of lan and part bad-guy/forsaken.

Right, Lan/Isam.

>6. Jordan is really into chinese cooking, but assumes that anyone who can
>make food that good has got to be fundamentally evil.

Logical.

>8. Bayle Domon owns the only boat sailing in this strange land or is himself
>Ta'varen.

Neither is necessary.  Having wandered into the orbit of three Ta'veren,
his comings and goings now bend themselves to their requirements.

>9. There are darkfriends scattered just EVERYWHERE including the darned
>tinkers.
>The song of the Tinkers is the song of Saidin which is also the song of
>the treebrothers? (Well, maybe).  Rand has to join the tinks with the
>aiels and get 'em humming the true song/way of the leaf. (You will know it
>luke, er perrin, er rand, when you hear it).

Unless there *is* no song.  (After all, our glimpse at their history
suggested that there was no song, as the Tinkers think of it, at the time.)
Maybe the search is the important thing -- that they tink and therefore
they are.

>10. The three women looking over Rand at the end (where he dies, hopefull
>old) are Elayne, Min and Lanfear. Just my guess.  If this is Aiel-ish thhis
>means that there better be some major bonding between the ladies before they
>force him to get married.  Probabilities on these three ladies becomeing
>GOOD friends are shall we say, limited.

We have a choice of cliches.  One standard cliche is for Lanfear to
redeem herself somewhere around book seven by sacrificing her life in
some worthy cause.  Another is for Rand to get himself killed while achieving
his victory, which would allow the three to be suitably bereaved before
getting on with their separate lives.

>11. Luc/Isam claimed to be the rightful heir of Andor.  I think that his
>mother's uncle was the one who cut down the tree, her brother made claim
>to the throne and his mother the one who married the king of Malkier's brother
>and later gave birth to Rand. (Whew!)  This means that Rand can claim also
>the throne of Andor, especially if he marries Elayne.

It means that Rand has claims, some better than others, to about half
a dozen thrones by now.  It also means that he ought to start thinking
about marrying outside the immediate family.

>12.  Loial's gonna get married to that she-ogier one of these days.

Yup.

>Well, this is what I have figured out or am wondering on.  What other topics/
>answers are there out there?

Unless someone has saved all the traffic on this topic -- and it was 
massive -- your best bet may be to pull it out of the sf-lovers archives
for the month following the appearance of the latest hardcover.  Much/most
of the discussion surrounded the interpretation of the various prophecies
that have gone by.

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