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From: dreddy@b30.ingr.com (Devender Reddy)
Subject: HOW WE TIP IN RESTAURANTS
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:57:11 GMT

Hi Netters,

This is regarding tipping in restaurants. I have heard through a lot of 
people that we Indians (mostly) are really bad in tipping.  Most of the time 
we do not even tip. I have friends who work as waiters, some of whom are 
Americans, Iranians and even Indians. Most of them tell the hostess not to 
seat any Indians in their tables. This really hurt me. 

What my Indian friend (student) says that they are paid $2.20/hr. On top of 
it they have to tip the bus-boy, bar-tender, and the cook. If the waiter does
not tip these people, they delay the process of giving the food or the drinks
or the bus-boy takes his own time to clean the table and that way the hostess
might seat the other customers on a different table. 

My Indian friend works in a restaurant part time, since he goes to college and
working on M.S. in Comp. Sc. From the last few semesters, atleast 200 new 
students came from India and it is very difficult to get assistantships here.
This is the main reason why our students work in the restaurants.

Recently my friend was waiting on some Indians. My friend told the manager
that he does not want to wait on these people, but he was forced to.They were 
a group of 7. They had drinks and food. The bill was about $130 and these 
people tipped him $4.00. He was really  mad and told them to take the  
money back and he does not need it. And guess what the reply was. They said 
that it was a lot of money and they converted the 4 dollars and said that 
120 rupees is a lot of money back home.

I guess most of our people work in restaurants because of the tuition fees
and other expenses. We need to support them by atleast paying a little bit more 
than the average. 

I asked my friend what would be a reasonable tip and he quoted 15-20% of the 
bill, unless the service is bad. He also told me that he gets good tips from
Indian students than Indian doctors and other professionals.

Just thought would let y'll know.

-Devender Reddy.
dreddy@b30news.b30.ingr.com
From: rpatil@nmsu.edu (Raj Patil)
Subject: H-3 visa info please..
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Distribution: soc.culture.indian
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:33:07 GMT


To all the visa Gurus..

A friend of mine got ajob offer today. He is on F-1 visa and planning 
to take the job. His employer says they will process his H-3 visa, which
is special education exchange visitor program. They say that H-3 is easier
to get then H-1B. The questions is,
 
what is the difference in H-1B and H-3? 

which is better? Why?

can he still apply for his green card on H-3?

Is it that H-3 can be paid less than H-1, and that is why his employer 
	is doing this? 

What are the disadvantages of being on H-3 and not on H-1B? 

What is the expected salary that he should be paid if he has two M.S degrees
	one in CS and other in EE?

Any information/advice is highly appreciated.


Thanks in advance

Raj P.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:37489 soc.culture.tamil:3725
From: vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: Indian civilization being oldest
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:13:37 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <Mf2bDyG00UhB02QmFE@andrew.cmu.edu> Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh <rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>That racism was rampant in his posts was completely evident
>
>I hate to tell you this, but it is you trying very hard at propagating
>the 'great Aryan lies.' I've been following your posts very carefully.
>Some of that
>crap can come only from the Ayodya based nuts. 

You are wring here. The Aryan Invasion Theory has been disproved long
back, and it has been proved that the Aryans were in fact very much a
race of ethnic Indians.

>Who the hell needs to learn about any of this? Maybe, you should try to
>learn more of the Tamil literature, history and arts. Are you confusing

Tamil  history cannot be separated from that of the Hoysalas, or from 
that of the Chalukyas. In fact the history of the entire gamut of the
different communities in India is interconnected,  and there is a lot 
of evidence of interaction between the communities in olden days.

>Or, I don't want to pretend to speak for all the Tamils from TN...just a
>few from there and more from Eelam. And I DONT need to sudy about
>Sathavahanas, Hoysalas, Chalukyas or whatever you can come up with. Too
>many Vedic 'holy men' have already diluted many Tamil acievements in an
>hegemonic manner. Or one more, thing: there is ample evidence that

Here again is evidence of the fact that, being from Sri Lanka you have
a feeling of being wronged even at India's hands. You should be trying
to fight the discrimination if any going on in Sri Lanka and leave the
name-calling aside.


>
>-Suresh
>
>
Regards,
Vivek.


-- 
vivek@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu),
Research Assistant, Systems Engineering Lab., Dept. Of Computer Science, 
School Of Engineering, Computer Science And Technology,
California State University, Chico, California.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:37220 soc.culture.indian.telugu:1061
From: sdoki@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu,wpi.students.desis
Subject: Re: premarital sex
Date: 16 Nov 1992 21:07:57 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

From the erratic fingers of (B Mohanarangan):

>because you know what they say love has no boundries.  The question is

actually it is sex that has no boundaries.

>	GO F##K HER.  Don't make love to her.

actually F*K works pretty well coz most unix shells do wildcard
expansion. 

suresh


ps: I pity you poor SC{I,IT} folks.

pps: If any of you know any better than this send me mail. Big brother
     sridhar are you listening?
From: dhruba@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Dhruba J. Chatterjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: K H A L I S T A N
Date: 20 Nov 1992 16:37:08 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California
NNTP-Posting-Host: phad.hsc.usc.edu

In article <1992Nov20.153249.13026@topaz.ucq.edu.au> toora@topaz.ucq.edu.au writes:
>We, the Sikh community living here really appreciate your views Gary.

I dont think the sikh community back in Punjab, who are the right party to 
actually make a decision about Khalistan, gives a damn to why some Australian
citizens you have to appreciate the views of a fanatic Gary, god help the 
country of which he is a citizen. 
I really wish that this lively debate on Khalistan could have been contributed
also by sikhs from Punjab, too bad, not most of them have any inter/ethernet 
connection...


DJ.
From: balarama@cae.wisc.edu (Prabhu Balaraman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Prabhu's blues :)
Date: 22 Nov 92 17:03:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Nov22.110340.11456
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering


  Da FFT writes...

> praisu lassu, blues will passu
> happy in the hay u'l tossu..

 ..yeah, some believe in making hay while the sun shines. Seems
   like FFT believes in making out in the hay while the sun 
   shines..:)

   Prabs
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:37417 soc.culture.pakistan:16849 soc.culture.bangladesh:6049
From: bhatnagr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Raj Bhatnagar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: CFV: soc.religion.islam.ahmadiyya moderated
Date: 18 Nov 92 04:10:15 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati

In article <1992Nov17.193409.4042@crd.ge.com> srinivas@vision.crd.ge.com (Chukka Srinivas) writes:
>In article <BxuJAr.85A@ucunix.san.uc.edu> bhatnagr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Raj Bhatnagar) writes:


>>is correct. Yes, even the interpretation accepted by a majority can not
>             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>be forced down the throats of those in a minority. That is called
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>religious tolerance.
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


>I agree.
>I only wish that your friends in VHP/BJP also
>note down and try to understand this definition
>of 'religious tolerance'.
>....

Sure. The day VHP tells anyone that one way of worshipping 
God/Maker/Nothingness is better than the other way, I will
sure tell them myself. But when political objectives being
sought in the garb of religion are being countered by playing
counter-politics it does not remain in the realm of religion
alone but becomes politics alone. 


>>If Yes, then you are violating a well accepted belief of islam and if
>                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>not, then please stop talking about Ahmadis not being Muslims.


>I completely agree with you that Ahmadis have
>every right to call themselves Muslims.
>
>But a small clarification, sir.
>when you say that 'you are voilating a well accepted
>belief of Islam' do you mean to imply that
>religious intolerance is a "well accepted belief of islam"?
>Or is it something else ?

By 'well accepted belief of islam' above, I was referring to
the belief that only God can determine/judge whether a person is
a Muslim or not.


>Maybe people, especially religious fanatics of ALL shades
>and of ALL religions, even from our own country should be asked
>to take this course.
>I do not know about Pakistan. But, that would really help India.
>

Yes, but the problem is more acute in some countries.

>
>-srinivas.

---raj
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:37760 news.answers:4103
From: kalia@next12epsl.wam.umd.edu (Atul Kalia)
Subject: Re: HOW WE TIP IN RESTAURANTS
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:31:42 GMT

In article <Bxx9rw.3sp@cs.uiuc.edu> gaur@cs.uiuc.edu (Rajeeva Gaur)  
writes:
> dreddy@b30.ingr.com (Devender Reddy) writes:
> 
> >Hi Netters,
> 
> >I asked my friend what would be a reasonable tip and he quoted 15-20%  
of the 
> >bill, unless the service is bad. He also told me that he gets good tips  
from
> >Indian students than Indian doctors and other professionals.
> 
> >Just thought would let y'll know.
> 
> >-Devender Reddy.
> >dreddy@b30news.b30.ingr.com
> 
> If I recall correctly, AAA recommends 10-15% of the bill. As I have  
noticed,
> many Americans follow it too. Well it also depends on the amount.  You  
don't 
> want to tip $0.50 .


Noone is bound by any rules to pay tip in restaurants. But courtsey  
demands that a certain % of the bil be given away as tip. Point to note  
here is, what kind of service  we get?? Noone would give ahefty amount for  
lousy service. And what kind of service do Indians give?? AWFUL!! They
are rude, cheerless and dull( I know !I know! I am generalising. But isn't  
it true for most Asians; esp Indians. ) The truth is we Indians aren't  
very good at putting up a smiling and courteous front all the time( unlike  
the americans )

A couple of days ago we were in a Chinese restaureant downtown. We were  
served by a chinku . He was slow in getting things,rude,unsmiling.In other  
words; he ruined our evening. We DIDN'T tip him cause we thought we got a  
very shabby treatment from him. That fellow had the audacity of arguing  
with us over this matter while the manager looked on.

I think anyone serving someone  else expects a token payment. Thats  
perfectly fine . But at the same time he has to take care of his  attitude  
towards his job. Yes! we are ready to tip but is it unfair to ask for   
decent behaviour in exchange for that?? 

KALIA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.chinese
From: ramanath@dewey.udel.edu (S. Ramanathan)
Subject: Leaving the US on F-1 Practical Training
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:16:16 GMT


Hi,

  If one has started work on a practical training visa but not applied for
  a H-1, then what is the status insofar as re-entry into US is concerned?

  That is, can one go back to the home country (in my case, India) and
  get a visa without any problem (as though you are a student)?

  Or would it be prudent to get a multiple entry visa from Canada/Mexico?
  Do they give out multiple entry visas for F-1 practical training?
  
  If you or anybody you know has had any experience with this situation, 
  I would appreciate it if you could send me info.

  Please e-mail me (ramanath@udel.edu) and I will post a summary of the
  information that I get. 

  Thanks in advance.

  - Ram.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:37186 soc.culture.tamil:3650
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Wednesday, 18 Nov 1992 23:07:43 MST
From: <AUASV@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Laugh while you can!

So, you laugh at me for being a realist.  I want to meet a girl from this
computer and then if I like the girl, maybe it might go farther.  The posting
that I did was just to find someone for now.  Is that so wrong?!?

     I have a pretty good idea who you are, but I think that if you want to
criticize me for something, at least tell me your name.  You don't have to
leave an address,  "PRETTY WOMAN".  If you have the guts, you will leave me
your address too.
                                             Ashish "Julio" Vaidya
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rajain@scotty.ecs.umass.edu (Rajat Jain)
Subject: HELP.....Data Rape !! (funny)
Keywords: computers, disks, raaaaaape
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:07:24 GMT

Saw this on rec.humor sometime ago, so all credit goes to the person who originally wrote it up (gimme credit *only* for reposting it :-)).



------- BEGIN -----------

My roommate just made this up and gave it to me.

Please send all comments to nhschutt@mtu.edu


			Attention Computer Geeks:


Be careful with your disks!  You could be convicted of data rape.
Hundreds of people nationwide have committed this heinous crime.  Many
more have been convicted.

What is data rape?  Data rape (from the latin word daterape) is the
violation of the rights of computer disks

What can happen to you if you are convicted of data rape?  Data rape is
now considered a capital crime,  due to a new bill pushed through
Congress.  As you may know,  all capital crimes are now punishable by
the intentional permanent corruption of your file system.

To help prevent data rape from occurring in your sector,  here are some
tips which you should find helpful:


1)   When a disk cries NO!, it isn't saying "Go ahead,  format me,"
     "Hey big boy, I'd love
     to have you deleting my data,"  or "Oh,  I love it when you
     corrupt me like that!" Instead,  it is crying NO!  Talk to your
     disk before performing any embarrassing operation.

2)   A disk is crying NO! when its write-protect tab is set to the
     "Don't write to me"
     position.  This tab should never be set to the "Go ahead,  make my
     day" position without first testing the disk's file system.  This
     type of foreplay is mandatory.  You cannot simply force your will
     upon the disk.

3)   A disk can be made to appear drunk when it is left near intense
     magnetic fields.
     Never intentionally get a disk drunk in order to take advantage of
     it.  You shouldn't have to be that devious;  after all,  you
     probably have at least one disk in your collection that is crying
     to be fondled.


----------- End -----------


Hope you enjoyed it,

rAjAt.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan)
Subject: Re: Sitamarhi Riots: Yet Another Example of Muslim Intolerance
Keywords: Riots, Muslim
Reply-To: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 23:54:46 GMT



Hindus were involved in the 1984 Sikh killings in Delhi and in the riots
in Bhagalpur where over a 1000 muslims were butchered.

Will it be correct for me to write a long article detailing how the murderers,
who were Hindus, exterminated a 1000+ men-women-children in Bhagalpur and then
title it:

"Bhagalpur Riots : Yet Another Example of Hindu Hatred" 
 

You have also given the keywords: Riots, Muslim

A very subtle but effective indicator to the idea behind posting the article.

--Javed.
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.us.asian-indian,rec.music.indian.misc,rec.music.indian.classical,osu.indian,osu.music
From: rmarathe@cfdevx1.shearson.com (Rajan Marathe)
Subject: Re: **** LIVE: PANKAJ UDHAS, NIRMAL UDHAS, MANHAR UDHAS ****
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:55:14 GMT

>Shiv> and I am portesting this bozo posting this Pankaj Udhas announcment
>Shiv> everyday on rec.music.indian.classical !
>
>In case you didn't know ghhazals are a form of classical music as well.

What nonsense!  By no possible strech of imagination are gazals classical
music.  Gazals are a form of pop music, and a very poor form at that. 
I personally hate gazals, but have no intention of forcing my views on you.
And I would advise you to do the same and spare us of this mundane topic.
Listen to whatever turns you on, but please don't write to rec.music.indian.classical.

>case you didn't know, ghazals is what Pankaj Udhas plays NORMALY...film songs
>is what hhe does on the side for some big bucks!!!

Who cares?

>Pretty soon you'll be saying L. Subhramanium and L. Shankar are not classical
>musicians as well......

L. Subhramanium and Pankaj Udhas in the same breath....SIGH!!!

Do us a favor and please DO NOT FOLLOW UP ON THIS ARTICLE....at least not on
rec.music.indian.classical.  Thank you much.
--
There is no such thing as a contradiction.
If you encounter one; check your premises.
One of them must be wrong.
From: gupta@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (Sanjay K. Gupta)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: TCS B,bay, IIT , HBTI Kanpur, VARANASI, Sanjay K. Gupta
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:46:30 GMT
Organization: Schlumberger CAD/CAM at Ann Arbor, MI

Hi friends, 

      My name is Sanjay Kumar Gupta. I've worked at TCS Bombay  since last
      Dec. Prior to that from June '90 to Dec '91 I was in IIT Kanpur as RA.
      I've done my in Comp Sc. from HBTI Kanpur. My schooling was done in
      Mughalsarai, Varanasi, India.

      All the friends and acquaintances who know me are requested to contact
      me at following address
      e-mail : gupta@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com

						Sanjay K. Gupta
From: vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: hindi film recommendation
Date: 18 Nov 92 00:48:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: charnel.1ec3stINN7ai
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <9786@cimshop.UUCP> mkaria@HP-UX (Mihir Karia) writes:
>jcsheth@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu writes:
>: 
>: 1. IZZAZAT (*ing Nazruddin Shah, Rekha, and Anuradha Paudwal)
>                                                       ^^^^^^^
>						       Patel
>: 2. DHRISTI (*ing Dimple Kapadia, and Shekhar kapoor)
>: 3. DEEWANA (*ing Rishi Kapoor, Divya Bharti, and Sharuk Khan. HE is a new actor
>                                                   ^^^^^^
>						   Sharookh
						   ^^^^^^^^

Sorry to be notpicking here, but it should be Shahrukh.


Regards,
Vivek.

-- 
vivek@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu),
Research Assistant, Systems Engineering Lab., Dept. Of Computer Science, 
School Of Engineering, Computer Science And Technology,
California State University, Chico, California.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: edo2877@usl.edu (Ott Edward D)
Subject: Dall
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:24:52 GMT



  I used to live with a vegetarian who conjured up some amazing dishes,
this one being the simplest and one of the tastiest.  It goes well with
curry.

-   Boil some lentils (or split peas or whatever) until nice and mushy.

-   Separately,  fry loads of garlic (to taste) in a little oil.
-   Add garam masala,  paprika, ginger, chili powder, black pepper to
    oil in whatever quantity you'd like best (I like lots of garlic and
    garam masala with a fair bit of chilli for whack).

-   Then simply mix the two lots to form a rather unpleasant-looking
    gunge.
     
can some one send me a recipie for samosas. thanks a lot.
--
BONES HEAL                   Edward D. Ott
CHICKS DIG SCARS             U.S.L. p.o. box 44661
PAIN IS TEMPORARY            Lafayette La. 70504-4661
GLORY IS FOREVER             E-mail edo2877@usl.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gtatavar@cs.umr.edu (Giridhar Tatavarti)
Subject:  *** HIP HIP HURRAY FOR DALJEET AND RUCHIR ***
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 06:57:01 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla
Originator: gtatavar@mcs213k.cs.umr.edu




	Here is an appreciation for Ruchir Gondura

	and Daljeet Singh Sahni....

	for writing *GREAT* replys to  that stupid

  	who was barking what ever he felt like about India..

	Special appreciations to Daljeet- for being a true

	representative of the sikh majority ...

	Every Indian wants that proper justice is done 

	to the Sikhs in case of the '84 roits..

        I hereby urge all Indians never to take the name of

	Khalistan without adding a *FICTITIOUS* tag to it.

	
	Giri.
	c

	

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: pkohli@cc.gatech.edu (Prince Kohli)
Subject: Looking for ALI IMRAN
Reply-To: pkohli@cc.gatech.edu (Prince Kohli)
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:24:29 GMT

A friend is looking for Ali Imran, graduated from AMU, Aligarh,
1990, EE. He should be in some university in Seattle....

If you know (of) him, could you please send his email address
to Vipin Ramani at vipin@cacsel3.ee.gatech.edu.

Thanks.

Cheers,

-Prince
-- 
pkohli@cc.gatech.edu      | "What's so unpleasant about getting drunk?" 
Distributed Systems Group,| "Ask a glass of water."   Hitchhikers'....
College of Computing, Georgia Tech.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rajain@sml12.ecs.umass.edu (Rajat Jain)
Subject: Re: hindi film recommendation
Organization: Project Pilgrim, Umass
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:39:57 GMT

In article <9786@cimshop.UUCP>, mkaria@HP-UX (Mihir Karia) writes:
|> jcsheth@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu writes:
|> : Names of some good hindi movies
|> : 
|> : 1. IZZAZAT (*ing Nazruddin Shah, Rekha, and Anuradha Paudwal)
|>                                                        ^^^^^^^
|> 						       Patel
|> : 2. DHRISTI (*ing Dimple Kapadia, and Shekhar kapoor)
|> : 3. DEEWANA (*ing Rishi Kapoor, Divya Bharti, and Sharuk Khan. HE is a new actor
|>                                                    ^^^^^^
|> 						   Sharookh
|> :             but he used to come in "Fooji"  TV serial  in India. he is really
|>                                       ^^^^^
|> 				      Fauji
|> :             good and songs are  extremely good)
|> : 4. JO JEETa WOHI SIKANDER (*ing   Amir Khan, Ayesha Julkar and Pooja Bedi)
|>                    ^^^^^^^^                           ^^^^^^
								    ^^^^^^^^^^

								  yummm!yumm!!!	



|> 		   SIKANDAR                           Julka


	rAjAt.

PS: You forgot *that*, didn'tcha ? ;-)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian