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From: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com (Bob Ashley)
Subject: NFC East: Who Will Win the Division?
Reply-To: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com
Organization: GTE Federal Systems Division
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:26:36 GMT

In article 1@pembvax1.pembroke.edu,  harper@pembvax1.pembroke.edu writes:
>
>Also, picture this.  If (big IF) Washington Wins the next two and Dallas
>lossess its next two (its possible) .  They will both have a 11-5 record, so
>who will win the Division?  Could be very interesting!


Simple ... since the two teams split, the next tiebreaker is record within
the division.  Under that scenario, the Redskins would only be 5-3 while
the Cowboys have already concluded their division schedule with a 6-2 record.

Therefore, division goes to the Cowboys ... *sigh* ... I knew that loss in
Phoenix would come back to haunt us ...


Bob - not to mention the Giants game at RFK   :-(

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From: richs@microsoft.com (Rick Schaut)
Subject: Change Vinnie!? (was Re: Only the Buccaneers could manage this.)
Date: 12 Dec 92 03:38:55 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Reply-To: richs@microsoft.com (Rick Schaut)

In article <00964BB2.0DD4A520@vms.csd.mu.edu> 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>I dunno who is going to change Testaverde.

I thought they hired a nanny to change his diapers.


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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: Washington/Dallas Matchup
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:29:30 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.003652.23191@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA) writes:
>In article <1992Dec10.224115.9597@Princeton.EDU> Frank Bilotti <frank@wanda.princeton.edu> writes:
>>In article <1992Dec10.163229.20203@PacBell.COM> JOHN P. GLORIA,
>>jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM writes:

> Just because you or I say what team will
>win/lose has absolutely NO bearing on the actual outcome! 
>Is this a given? If your answer is no, then you are truly beyond
>logic or help.
>

Hey ! Maybe the players read rsfp and get inspired/depressed by what we
write !  :-) 	:-)
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Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
From: jjungbau@thorin.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: THE FOOTBALL GODS HAVE SPOKEN!!!
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:27:09 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Washington State University, Pullman

In article <1992Dec15.091813.6264@PacBell.COM>, jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) writes:

|> Gary, you're a BIG WEENIE. And no, it ain't your two-inch dick
|> size. You don't have the foggiest idea of what football is
|> about unless your stats are right in front of your
|> foul-smelling mouth. Your jg>, etc., is especially childish,
|> but that is expected from a WEENIE who has be make certain
|> who said what. Your dorsal ganglia is insufficient and
|> your attempt at flaming is equally matched by your feeble
|> retorts. Like I said, If you can't take it, which is obvious,
|> you should just get under your covers and jack-off in
|> your pissed-stained mattress.
|> 
|> Wanna discuss football great! The 'Boys still suck and
|> the FOOTBALL GODS still rule, you insignificant little man.
|> -- 
|>  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
|> "To be absolutely certain about something, one must know
|> everything or nothing about it."   Olin Miller


Yet another intelligent post from John Gloria.  Will this incredibly
witty dialogue never end?  Man... don't even need to say anything 
about this guy... his posts speak volumes.  I just feel sorry for
Packard Bell.

Jim
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From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Eagles at home, Washington in the Port-o-poddy
Date: 19 Dec 92 18:55:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <BzIMBI.7tn@nic.umass.edu> jg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (John Greene) writes:
>All this talk about Washington being so great.... blah blah blah.  Look
>at what Eagles did to Dallas at home.  Look at what they did to the 10-0
>Giants last year (at home).  Washington will be crushed by the entire
>city of Philadelphia :-)
>
>-jg (jg@titan.ucc.umass.edu)


I WISH the Giants were 10-0 last year.  It was 2 years ago that they crushed
us in week 11.  Also, look at what the Cowboys did in week 15 last year :-)

satish nair
giants (5-11 in '92) ... actually we're ahead of the chiefs 21-7 at the half
From: operbwt@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu(Barry Trottier)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: BIlls are READY
Date: 14 Dec 1992 03:43:01 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: operbwt@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: g222-13.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <Bz86nE.2xy@hpuerca.atl.hp.com> krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin  
Barnes) writes:
> 
> After this weekend I think that the BILLS are ready to take the SB, In  
previous
> years they played their best ball in weeks 12 ->14 but this year they are  
just 
> now PEAKING. Iwatched them do whatever was necessary to beat Denver (a very 
> good team).  they won they DOMINATED, if not for a fluke on-sides kick the  
game
> would have been a total blow out!!.

2 questions:

	How is it that a team which wins one game over a scummy team can be  
considered "peaked" and "ready to take the SB"?

	Denver is a good team?  Mwahahahahahahahahahaha, and I am a Denver fan.

Face it, the Bills aren't even close to ready to take the SB.  Mabye if they  
win their next 2, I might believe you.

---------
Go Niners!
Go Elway!

Barry Trottier
e-mail:  operbwt@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
From: elm@cs.berkeley.edu (ethan miller)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Vikes cannot hope for a wild card.
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:38:52
Organization: Berkeley--Shaken, not Stirred
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In-reply-to: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu's message of Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:28:18 GMT

In article <Bz9qB6.Eno@ns1.nodak.edu> sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The Purple Bleeder ) writes:
=>For the Vikes, this season, the only way to the playoffs
=>is the Divisional Championship. If the Vikes lose to
=>to the Pack, they cannot go to the playoffs. The Vikes
=>will lose the tie-breaker to both the Skins and the
=>Eagles as these two teams have beaten the Vikes in the
=>regular season.

Actually, the Vikings *can* be a wildcard team.  They are currently
9-5.  If they lose to the Packers and win their other game, they'll
finish 10-6.  It's entirely possible that the loser of the Philly vs.
Washington game will lose their other game, finishing 9-7.  That would
make the wild card teams New Orleans, winner of Philly/Washington
(11-5 or 10-6), and the Vikings (10-6).  The loser of the Philly/DC
game would be 9-7 and out of the playoffs if they lost the final
weekend.

ethan
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:40:06 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
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Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
From: jefforca@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Pack Needs To Be Sharpe
Date: 16 Dec 92 02:36:43 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

Well, now that I have a couple of revenge posts on the system to all you Viking
fans, and due to the fact that a couple of loyal Packer Backers have helped me
see the error of my ways in spouting of like those Viking fans, I will get a
litte more serious.

It seems now that our best chance at the playoffs os to win the division
outright.  With Washington and Philly both winning last week, we didn't make up
any ground.  Last week I was hoping Philly would beat the Skins in week 16, but
now I think we have to reevaluate.  We win tiebreakers with Philly because of
our head to head win but lose to Washington because they have a better
conference record.

Let's just hope for a Steeler victory and a Pack win this Sunday so we have our
fate in our own hands in week 17.
GO PACK!!!!!
...Favre fakes up the middle, going for Sharpe down the middle, TOUCHDOWN
Sterling Sharpe!!!
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From: john@ice.stx.com (John DiMarzio)
Subject: Re: Barry Foster, rushing records
Reply-To: john@ice.stx.com
Organization: Hughes STX, Lanham, MD
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:10:46 GMT

In article <b2Y103q8c3pY00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>, ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend) writes:
}}>In perspective, Barry Foster has a chance to break the record but would 
}>have to put together some monster 200+ yard performances.  However, anything
}>over 1800 yards would put him in an elite club with Jim Brown, O.J Simpson,
}>Walter Payton, Earl Campbell, and Eric Dickerson.
}
}Foster does not belong in this club. Nor will he get there this year. 
}
}Emmitt, Barry S. .. perhaps... Foster... No... No... and No again! 
}

Excuse me but the club membership is gaining 1800 yards per 1 NFL
season and if Foster does it then he deserves to be there.  I'd like to
see you run for even one yard in the NFL (in the right direction).  Keep
your Goddamn opinions to yourself.

John DiMarzio
From: tdonnell@ncrsoph.Sophia.NCR.COM (Tom Donnelly)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Broncos/playoff chances/help?
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:29:50 GMT
Reply-To: tdonnell@ncrsoph.Sophia.NCR.COM (Tom Donnelly)
Organization: NCR European Development Center

In article <Dec.14.16.12.20.1992.14992@pilot.njin.net> gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky - Hobokenite) writes:
>
>Questino for you all.
>
>I'm a broncos fan.  play along with my scenario for a minute....
>
>buffalo and miami, pittsburgh, and san diego all win divisions; one
> of the first two doesn't, but makes the playoffs as a wild card, 
>leaving two spots open.
>
>denver wins the last 2 games, against seattle and k.c.  
>
>now, what are denver's chances?  as in, what i do want to hope for?
> if k.c. loses to the giants, and houston wins their last two, then

  Don't count on it.  Handley has already ruined our season for us, so he
  will probably be starting on everyone elses next.

go giants ( ever so meekly )
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:50:08 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
Subject: GIANTS kicked ASS (is ALN happy?)
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 21:00:09 GMT

Hey, no need to say much except the HOSS looked
good, the O and D looked good. Hmmm, why were they
the underdogs?  Again, the NFC (Giants) rules against the
AFC (Chiefs). Just think a 5-9 team kicks ass on an
AFC team with a 9-5 record (records prior to the
game). This only adds more credence that the
bottom NFC teams (record wise) can beat the TOP
AFC teams. YES, Homey thinks so! Does the AFC
really think they can win the SB? Shit, Homey don't
think so. The score? Who cares. The Giants W-O-N
Well, okay:  Giants  35  Chiefs 21

GO NFC!!!!!
-- 
 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
"To be absolutely certain about something, one must know
everything or nothing about it."   Olin Miller
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From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Determining Schedules
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:17:05 GMT

In article <BzFyqr.1yv@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, desouzmj@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Mike) writes:
>Does anyone know how schedules for the next year are determined?
>I had thought that the strength of next year's schedule was based on your record
>If that is true then why do the Cowboys, who made the playoffs last year, play 
>Atlanta and the Rams, who are in the bottom of the NFC WEST, while the Eagles
>played San Francisco and New Orleans, the top two?

(Atlanta finished ahead of SF last year, BTW.)

But in general only fifth-place teams get a break.  They get to play all the
other fifth-place teams.  The rest of the matchups are made by criteria
other than last year's performance.  Each top-4 team plays:

2 games against each team in the division (6 or 8 games)
1 game against top-4 teams in a division in the other conference (4 games)
4 or 6 more games inside conference but outside division

While the fifth-place teams play:

2 games against each team in the division (8 games)
2 games against fifth-place team in same conference
1 game against fifth-place teams in other conference (2 games)
4 more games inside conference but outside division

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA)
Subject: Re: Washington/Dallas Matchup
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:38:34 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.184231.18758@cbis.ece.drexel.edu> andres@minerva.ece.drexel.edu (Andres Lebaudy) writes:
>>>The COWBOYS will win for three reasons
>>>
>>>1.  The Cowboys are a better team
>>>
>>better record, but not a better team.
>>
>>>2.. They will play better Sunday than the 'skins
>>>
>>Yeah right, as though you know ahead of time! Tell
>>that to ALL the teams that were better than their
>>opponents and ended up losing. Dallas is ripe for
>>an ass kicking. GO 'SKINS!
>
>You seem to have contradicted yourself rather nicely.  First
>you say that Washington is the better team.  Then you say that
>Washington will win because all the teams who are better than
>their opponents have ended up losing, implying that Dallas is the
>better team!
>
>Get a clue.
>
>> ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
>
>Andres

Apparently you cannot understand what you read. Original poster
said " 1. The Cowboys are a better team".  I replied:
" better record, but not a better team".  Your second point has
no merit because your first conculsion is wrong. Bottom line:
Get a clue! 
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 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
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  is out of focus."   -     Mark Twain
From: smm@rodan.UU.NET (Steve Mansfield)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Redskins over Cowboys
Date: 14 Dec 1992 11:05:02 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

In article <101904@netnews.upenn.edu> satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
>
>They were outplayed, outgained and nearly outscored for most of the game
>but the Skins came up big on a recovery of a fumble in the end zone by 
>Danny Copeland.  
>
>Michael Irvin burned Darrel Green for some big gains.

Yes, but Irvin also let Green force him to fumble....  After hearing
verification that Irvin said he was going to go for Green's arm, he has
no sympathy, or respect from me, any more.  I find it amusing that Green
used his "bad" arm to pin Irvin's right arm to his body so he couldn't
hold onto the ball.

>Aikman was hot through most of the 3 quarters.  Rypien sucked!
>

I have to agree with you for most of the game, except he really got rid
of the nerves later in the 3rd.  He started to click again.  The
receivers also did an excellent job of compensating for lower passes.  I
think Ryp put way too much pressure on himself for this game.

>Aikman's INT near the Washington end zone cost them big!
>

Definitely, plus to add insult to injury Copeland turned the interception
into *great* field position with his runback.  He did a great job of
staying inbounds.  Too bad the Redskins offense was only able to turn it
into a field goal.

>Good game!
>
>
>satish nair
>(ray must_ go, giants
>
>

Steve Mansfield                   Junior AlterNet Engineer 
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From: kowalski@crim.ca (Allan Kowalski)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 10 reasons why the Raiders suck
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:50:25 GMT
Organization: Centre de Recherche Informatique de Montreal

mjmcgee@bmerh136.bnr.ca (Mark McGee) writes:

>my support lightly ( I'm still a Maple Leaf fan).



A MAPLE LEAFS FAN. BOY THAT'S BUCKING A TREND.

HOPE PAT BURNS CAN DO BETTERR THEN HE DID WITH THE HABS.

agk
From: andres@minerva.ece.drexel.edu (Andres Lebaudy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Washington/Dallas Matchup
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:42:31 GMT
Organization: Drexel University, Philadelphia PA

>>The COWBOYS will win for three reasons
>>
>>1.  The Cowboys are a better team
>>
>better record, but not a better team.
>
>>2.. They will play better Sunday than the 'skins
>>
>Yeah right, as though you know ahead of time! Tell
>that to ALL the teams that were better than their
>opponents and ended up losing. Dallas is ripe for
>an ass kicking. GO 'SKINS!

You seem to have contradicted yourself rather nicely.  First
you say that Washington is the better team.  Then you say that
Washington will win because all the teams who are better than
their opponents have ended up losing, implying that Dallas is the
better team!

Get a clue.

> ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	

Andres