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From: jsingh@rishikesh.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Jitendra Singh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Buddhism/Sikhism a part of Hinduism ?
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:01:12 GMT
Organization: Computervision Corp.


Seems to me this is a no-win, no-conclusions discussion.

Buddhism is a part of Hinduism, to exactly the same extent that
Hinduism is a part of Buddhism.

You look into Buddhism, and you will find elements of Hinduism.
You look into Hinduism, and you will find elements of Buddhism.

You can not easily prove geneology of religions anyway.
Buddhism started in India from clearly Hindu origins.
But it went elsewhere.  It mixed with Taoism, among other religions.
It is a different religion now.  It stands on its own.
It overlaps, for sure, but that does not make it a part of the other.

One might as well be asking:
	Am I a part of my father?
	or is my father a part of me?

So maybe this discussion is really about `my religion is bigger than
your religion.  Your religion is really just a part of mine'.  WHAT IS
WRONG WITH TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE RELIGION ON ITS OWN TERMS?

The same applies to attempts at trying to argue that Sikhism is a part
of Hinduism.

J. Singh

(Replies by e-mail, please, if you can).
From: mg819305@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Bus. Week report on immigrants' education
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:26:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucunix.1992Sep4.212648.25983
Organization: University of Cincinnati

In article <laf7pfINNlov@aludra.usc.edu> banerjee@aludra.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee) writes:
>In article <92247.235345SXS144@psuvm.psu.edu> SXS144@psuvm.psu.edu (** subramanian sivaramakrishnan **) writes:
>
>>Indians are the most educated group topping the list with an
>>average of 16 years of schooling. 
>>
>
>No wonder Ed Crick was cribbing the other day about how we Indians should be
>grateful to the Western nations for having provided us with educational
>oppurtunities. 
>
>A misplaced sense of inferiority, perhaps?
>
>
>Samit

If you stay near smart people some smartness is bound to rub off, maybe
that's why Ed sticks to SCI. Don't lose hopes Ed one day you might qualify
to be an Indian ninth grader.

Manoj
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Naive Foreigners
From: <RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 14 Sep 1992 07:49:28 EDT
Distribution: na
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

-From: ngopala3@ua1ix.ua.edu (Ms. Nitya Feldstein)

-> ><    From prabhak@atto.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar)
->
-> Experience has taught me not to engage people who cannot disagree
-> without being disagreeable. For such engagement shall soon
-> degenerate into personal acrimony and the real issue is lost.
->
-> You have a good day now!
->
-> Satya Prabhakar
-
- I second that.
-
-Nitya.

 I also whole-heartedly agree.  I would suggest four rules for a discussion
that can lead somewhere.

 1.  Respect for facts.
 2.  A willingness to give one's argument in a logical or at least rational
     manner.
 3.  A willingness to actually LISTEN to what the other party is saying.
 4.  Remaining courteous and respectful even when there are serious
     differences of opinion.

Of course I am bound to apply these rules even if someone challemges THEM!!

Rohit Parikh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Subject: Re: Kashmir Campaign
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 09:56:28 GMT

hdeshma@eos.ncsu.edu (HARSHAVARDHAN  DESHMANE) writes:

>all your ranting is getting on my nerves.
>Do you really think, all your bullshit, and other Indians' too, will
>make an iota of difference to the situation in Kashmir,India ?

>Besides, in your next article , you point out that Hindus are "only 4%"
>of the population in Kashmir. 
>You almost imply, that their opinion does not count. 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Their opinion counts and in my article I also said that Hindus
must go to Kashmir to take part in Plebiscit(if ever taken).
Looking to present situation in the Valley ( I saw News treck video
by India Today) the decision seems to be the one in the hand of the 
majority community.

>By YOUR logic,and by arriving at an answer to the following questions,
>do you think a few dissenting voices ought to be heard?
>Question: How much of the population of India is made up of residents
>of the Indian state of Kashmir, including the unfortunate people
>residing on the land illegally occupied by pakistan?


This question can is as silly as any kid can ask.

This is fundamental fact that Kashmir is a colony of India and PAkistan.
The people of Kashmir never joined with India or Paksitan.


One question will make everything clear.


In 1947-48 period, Sardar Patel(the Home Minister) joined
Junagadh(whose Nawab wanted to join with Pakistan)
and 
Hyderabad Deccan(whose Nawab wanted to remain independent)
with India .

He said if the people of Junagadh and Hyderabad wanted to join with
India then these regions had to join with India.

He was the mastermind behind three way attack on Hyderabad Nizam.

While in the Kashmir he made all agreement with the PM of Kashmir.


Where the people of Kashmir gone?

WHERE IS THE TRUTH, Mr. Harsh and all those who advocate wrong propaganda?


>as an aside, with only a little bearing to this discussion, are you from
>Kashmir? if so, where in Kashmir?


>-harsh
>-- 
>_______________________________________________________________________________
>Harshavardhan Deshmane                                 I had a signature
>ECE Dept.,                                             it became an address:(
>North Carolina State University.                       had@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: thaya@solan.unit.no (Thayanantha Balasundaram)
Subject: look like a womyn pragnant
Followup-To: m
Keywords: banken er stengt men jeg er inne i data salen
Organization: Norwegian Institue of Technology
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 15:37:22 GMT

\(TAMIL40)  \skipline \leftmargin=50 \width=500 \R
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
,   akara muthala ezhutthellaam Athi       ,
,   pakavan muthaRRE ulaku -(1.1)        ,        
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, \r
\skipline \skipline \R
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' 
,   kuzhalinithu yaazhini thenpatham makkaL    , 
,   mazhalais sol kELaa thavar -(7.6)    , 
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, \r  
\skipline \skipline \R 
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' 
,   kaRkak kasadaRak kaRpavai ; kaRRapin    , 
,   niRka athaRkuth thaka -(40.1)         , 
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 
\r \skipline \skipline \I 
vadakkilirunthu vIsumkaaRRu "vaadaikkaaRRu"
kizhakkilirunthu vIsumkaaRRu "koNdalkaaRRu"
theRkilirunthu vIsumkaaRRu "thenRalkaaRRu"
mERkilirunthu vIsumkaaRRu "kOdaikkaaRRu" \i

if some one disclaim that .... not ... social worker only in Tamil Eelam then
.... ash in ganges like that.
kaNaNi :=: kaNikkum iyanthiram
kaNitthal :=: "saappaaddup parsal" thokai eNnal
iyanthiram :=: boat l Oddai adaitthal

"vidiyumvarai kaatthiru"
thayanantha be loved


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Subject: Re: Why can't Indian girls be more outgoing
Reply-To: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 18:41:32 GMT

In article <92255.125907U54904@uicvm.uic.edu> U54904@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
>Ever noticed how Indian guys and girls just do not socialize . Why is it that
>takes a year before you can hold a decent conversation with a desi female witho
>ut having her run off to do some work.



{\Hindi      naach na jaanae  aangan taeDha. }


>Comments expected.
Of course comments expected.


>Mohan Putcha                             No I am not another



Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: wizard@maxine.wpi.edu (Ajay Khanna)
Subject: Re: Profile of Suresh Doki
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 21:39:58 GMT

The honorable sankar@caip.rutgers.edu (ananth sankar) chanced to say:
= Species: Possibly human, considering he can type..some gorillas and chimps
=          can do this too.
= :
= :
= ............Thaaliyaan.......

Mr. Thaaliyaan, your civility seems to match Mr. Doki's.  May you live
long and enjoy much success in life.

-dat friendly wizard (Ajay Khanna)

P.S.  Sarcasm intentional.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sarang@saturn.sdsu.edu (Srinath Sarang)
Subject: Re: Prolific posters of the last fortnight...
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 01:17:47 GMT

Arun Kandappan (arunk@cs.utexas.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Sep5.002728.20699@ennews.eas.asu.edu> sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman) writes:
: >
: >Some people are trying to subvert the prolific poster list knowingly
: 	What purpose does this "prolific poster list" serve ?
: 	An index of topics discussed would be more useful.
: 	Arun

 What purpose would any list serve ? Letting someone know that he or she
is a prolific poster will not stop them. I am at artcles=9 but I may not
stop, not until I have my assignments due...
So what's the point anyway.
Nothing.
Just a list of people who post regularly...
Nobody pays attention to use of badwidth or should I say waste ?
i have stopped using Pnews as it makes me feel guilty with its "are you sure":
messages... I know that I am wating bandwidth but it hasn't got to me as yet
to make me stop...
So just go on....
Flames welcome reg my opinions... One from Sridhar I am suer to have...
I'd prefer it mailed to me as I may not read this thread anymore... It may
join my kill file...
Srinath
: -- 
: Arun Kandappan                                  arunk@cs.utexas.edu
: 512+345-1616   EE Dept, UT at Austin TX 78712   uunet!cs.utexas.edu!arunk

--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Srinath Sarang
sarang@sdsu.edu

I Don't believe what I say, and whatever I say is wrong.....
								SS 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sgs@ucs.usl.edu (Sudhindranath SG)
Subject: Re: Sonia's book on Rajiv
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:27:54 GMT

In article <92254.124630U51935@uicvm.uic.edu> Sesha Talluri <U51935@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>
>In article <1992Sep3.230550.5373@colorado.edu>, manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K.
>S. Manu) says:
>>
>>who cares?
>>
>I DO. And there are others too.
>

It is probably worth reminding that we are talking about a man
who was so disrespectful of human life. Rajiv Gandhi's reaction
to news reports of the Sikh massacre in November 1984 in the aftermath 
of the Indira Gandhi assasination is very significant. His words are 
indeed memorable : "When a big tree falls, the earth shakes". 

We are talking about a man who sent thousands of our troops on 
a suicidal trip to Sri Lanka just to divert public attention from 
a controversy that he was embroiled in.

IMO, anybody who has "care" and "compassion" for such a man
is either a Buddha. Or an idiot.

>>Njan
>
>Sesha

Regards,

--Sudhi.

-- 
*********************************************************************
Sira Gopinath Sudhindranath. 
email : sudhi@usl.edu, sgs@ucs.usl.edu
*********************************************************************
From: aoab314@ut-emx.uucp (Srinivas Bettadpur)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Three way ticket & bi-racial marriages (was Re: Fixation with Tall, dark... )
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:02:56 GMT
Organization: Center for Space Research, U of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas

In article <1992Sep11.194903.1582@research.nj.nec.com> rsd@sun033.Berkeley.EDU (Rajiv Dighe) writes:
>In article <w0sntb=.cass@netcom.com>, cass@netcom.com (Diana Tenery-Fisher) writes:
>|> 
>|> Do you know what the instance of inter-racial relationships/marriages
>|> for Indians and Americans is? If it even happens, does it tend to be
>|> Indian men and american women or Indian women and american men? Does
>|> anyone know of an literature or movies on the subject? Thanks.
>
>that the percentage of indian women married to american men is larger
>than the percentage of indian men married to american women.

     My experience, oddly enough, suggests the opposite.

>1) Indians born and brought up in this country:
>To most of them, an arranged marriage is an anthema and they
>are most likely to find their own significant other.

   Should not really count, because there should be as many men as women
choosing their SO from the local population.  The imbalance between
M and F in inter-racial marriages appear to be due to patterns in
the 2nd category (below).

>2) Indians who came here (most often as graduate students or working
>professionals).
>
>Here my assertion follows from a very simple observation:
>The three-way ticket is mostly a male phenomenon.

  Probably the neatest name I have heard for the phenomena.
Any other interesting names for it ?

>It is almost unthinkable for most female indians studying/working
>in this country to go through this process.

  Now that IS odd.  Several things going on here :
   (i)  An overwhelming number of Category 2 Indian males I know have
taken the 3-way ticket route.
   (ii)  Several (in fact most) of C-2 Indian females I know (or know
of) have found desi mates from among the C-2 males.  Interesting how
they did not take the 3-way ticket route,  might be because of :

>(This may also have something to do with the free-market, supply and demand
>and the fact that there are more fishermen than fishes in this sea :-)).
>
>it stands to reason that a larger percentage of indian women 
>will find non-indian mates than indian men.

  and YET, of the three bi-racial couples I know, and 2 others I
know of, all are of the type :  C-2-Desi-Male & (White) American
female  (I am not counting the C-1 population here). 

   Has this thread been discussed ad-nauseum on the net before ?
 
>
>Rajiv-donning-his-asbestos-langot

         Got another one ?
                                         Srinivas
-- 
Srinivas Bettadpur           Internet : aoab314@emx.cc.utexas.edu
P.O. Box 8520, Austin, Tx. 78713-8520, U.S.A.  Tel. (512) 471 4332
BITNET : aoab314@uthermes
From: ash@iron.sni.ca (Ashwin Palekar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Toronto Presents : KAMALA
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:47:55 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf, Sietec Open Systems, Toronto, Canada

(reposted due to internal network failure)

	Dr. Shreeram Lagoo , Rohini Hattangadi ( of 'Gandhi' fame ),
		and other eminent artists from India

	present a one act play in English

			"K A M A L A "

( A play written by Vijay Tendulkar , based on a true story :
A journalist exposes a 'girls for sale' operation in Bihar , India, 
thriving with the support of certain politicians. The play touches
on the role of women in India, investigative journalism, and corruption
in government, as it analyzes the tragic saga of 'Kamala'.)

			on

	Friday , September 25, 1992 at 8:00 pm
			
			at

	Sir John A. Macdonald Collegiate Institute Auditorium

	2300 Pharmacy Avenue (south of Finch Ave.)
		Scarborough, Ontario.

	Admission: by donation of $20.00 or more.
	(reserved seating in front rows and mention in program brochure
	for donations of $100.00 or more )

	for information contact :

	Shalan Khandekar	(416)940-0105 
	Durga Pachapurkar	(416)445-3935
	Rajen/Rekha Merchant	(416)321-3529
	Urmila Gajar		(416)635-1828
	Sadhana Sheth		(416)492-7301
	Mrs. Daisy Roy		(416)698-7886
	
	Important:
		The proceeds of this performance will go directly to the
	"Social Gratitude Fund" in India. This fund provides financial
	aid to many social workers who work tirelessly to ameliorate the
	plight of destitute people or those who are fighting the continual
	environmental degradation in India.

		The artists in the play are acting gratis.

		*All donations are tax deductible*

			Please donate Generously

	The program is sponsored jointly by the Maharashtra Seva Samiti ,and
	the Marathi Bhashik Mandal , Toronto, Inc.
-----------------------------end---------------------------------------------

Note :
~~~~~
Please do not contact me for tickets and/or further information. 
I have just reproduced their flyer for the benefit of all network friends.
I am not responsible for improper translation or the information given above.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: news@ugle.unit.no (Deep Third Sand)
Subject: i am shockeD ******!!!
Keywords: sand
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 18:45:43 GMT

engineering_The One!'s thoughts:

PROGRAME Demolise all repressions;

USES Logo :=: "thamizhs sinnam",blue diamond;

BEGIN
 REPEAT
  some one forced her;   
  we do not like tipsy Jems;
  walkman like an Egyptian
 UNTIL keep ) 
END.

"enRum inimaiyaana Atmaa"
thayanantha be loved
From: s9205@gte.com (Rohit Gupta)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: ASIAN MATRIMONIAL SERVICES
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:50:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham MA

vsandell writes about AMS
I was contacted by Miss Gulati too. I will proabably put up a flyer at the next ISA event at my university, but will make it clear that our Association is not sponsoring this organization.

Rohit
From: sadhal@alhena.usc.edu (Sati Sadhal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Speeding Ticket
Keywords: Speeding
Date: 15 Sep 92 23:06:35 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: alhena.usc.edu

In article <1992Sep12.181827.14292@cs.wayne.edu> uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar) writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.175937.28678@ennews.eas.asu.edu> vkrishna@cimnext1.cim.eas.asu.edu (Vinu K. Krishnamurthy) writes:
>>My friend from Arizona got a speeding ticket in California State. 
>>Can he attend a class and thereby maintain his record clean.
>
>Nope.  It cant be undone.  Your friend has lost his `virginity'...
>``Attend classes and undo * it *''.  WOw ! what a concept...
>
It can be undone! Notorious Californians like myself do it
all the time. You can do it only once in a consecutive 12
month period. The DMV retains the record but the insurance companies
do not find out. BUT, you still pay the fine. 

These are traffic schools approved by the DMV and the Municipal
Court System and conisist of 8 to 12 hour classes on traffic 
safety and other good stuff. 

>>Should he attend the court
>>Can he plead not guilty
>
 [stuff deleted]

>>Any Suggestions will be helpfull
>

You can attend the court. Chances are that you will get off.
About 25% of the time the police officer who wrote the ticket
does not show up. That is automatic dismissal. 
In the cases that the officer shows up, many get dismissed
before trial because the officer concedes to his own error.

I believe about 50% result in actual conviction. However,
I do not have hard statistics. 

Speeding tickets are hard to fight. I fought and won. But my
case was easy. The cop did not show up. 

There is also a book available. The title is something like

 "How to fight a Traffic Ticket"

I do not remember the name of the author or the publisher

>
>Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
>(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)

Good luck. ------ Satwindar Singh Sadhal
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: banarji@unixg.ubc.ca (Ajai Banarji)
Subject: Fabrikant's Fabrikations
Originator: banarji@unixg.ubc.ca
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 22:01:12 GMT

			Fabrikant's Fabrikations

  In case anyone is still interested, our friend Prof. Fabrikant of
Concordia has been appearing in court lately and is still complaining
against his enemies. 3 of the 5 enemies had South Asian-sounding names
(Professors Swamy, Sankar and Osman)-surely the fact that the bulk of
his allegations are against South Asians should have been of interest
to this newsgroup.
  There has been considerable discussion about him in the newsgroups
sci.research.careers and soc.culture.canada. Apparently an alt newsgroup
is to be started to study this person and his activities. (Why not?
Even Alok Vijayvargiya had an alt.fan.club :-)
  If anyone has had the patience to go through Fabrikant's postings, it
does seem to show that something was wrong with his department at
Concordia-though clearly there was something wrong with him as well.
  Isn't there anyone from Concordia who can comment on happenings there?
  This may also be the first time that postings on a newsgroup are being
used as evidence in a murder case. But, judging from the number of clearly
unbalanced people who post on s.c.indian and similar newsgroups, it may
not be the last.
From: s9263@harvey.gte.com (Rajesh Kumar Sah)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Ride to New York on the Sep 19-20th weekend
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:38:28 GMT
Distribution: ne



If anyone has plans of driving down to New York City for the weekend
of Sep 19th and Sep20th and has space to accomodate another guy to
share the expenses of the trip, I would appreciate a ride!
Please send mail at

s9263@bunny.gte.com

or call me at (212)-787-6076 (Home)  or (212)-466-2168 (Work).

- Rajesh

P.S. 	I live in Boston.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.sri-lanka,soc.history
Subject: Were there universities in India before the British went?
From: A.Raman@massey.ac.nz (Anand)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 21:49:09 GMT
Organization: Massey University Computer Centre
Keywords: world

Sometimes during a party, a date  or a dinner, an Indian is  liable to
get asked that  apparently innocent  question,  the irksome nature  of
which cannot be underestimated:

Did you have universities in your country before the British came?

There are several appropriate answers to this question, they  tell me;
but few of them are factually correct and inoffensive  in nature.  The
urge to take offence at questions like these and offend in retaliation
is often missionary in  quality.    But personally,  I don't  think an
offensive response is justified  in  such  a situation.   Besides,  it
doesn't befit an Indian who follows in the gentle footsteps of Gautama
Buddha.   In most cases,  I have found, there  is really no need to be
irritated at such questions.  They are usually asked in true sincerity
out of a real curiosity.   It is only  obligatory then that we provide
correct   information  about  ourselves to    those who are  genuinely
interested in us.  But how can we  do any such thing if  we don't have
the requisite data with us in the first place?

With this in  mind, I intend to make  available  to those  who like, a
project called   Indhist, the Beta   version  of   which  I have  just
completed.   I have been  working on it during my  spare time over the
last eighteen months.  Keep watching  this newsgroup for articles with
the word "Indhist" in the subject.  I hope  to post a packaged version
of this project in about three weeks time.

Cheers!

- & (anand v raman)

PS:

Please don't change the subject line if  you want to  post a follow-up
to this  article.  Like most of  you, I only  get to consistently read
s.c.i for few  weeks a  year.   Rest  of the time,  I must rely on  an
occasional grep to notify me of the interesting articles.

--
# The following signature is a random selection from Indhist 1.0Beta
# For more information about Indhist contact A.Raman@massey.ac.nz
--
A  peculiar custom is  mentioned as existing among   the people of Kathaia
[Prob. Amritsar] -- that the husband and wife  choose each other, and that
the wives burn themselves along with their deceased  husbands.  The reason
for this is that the wives would  sometimes fall in  love with  young men,
and desert   their  husbands or poison   them.  This law   was   therefore
instituted with a view to suppress the practice of administering poison.

- Strabo Book XV:I.30
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