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From: markey@gspmo.enet.dec.com (Ron Markey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: T2 - Why didn't Sarah die??? (ANSWER)
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:48:32 GMT
Reply-To: markey@gspmo.enet.dec.com (Ron Markey)
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Colo. Spgs, CO


I haven't been following this thread completely, but I just got finished reading the paperback version from the screenplay.  In it, the T1000 was having problems
with certain functions (like the replication function) due to the trama of being
frozen and blown apart.  Therefore it was trying to get Sarah to call John because it was still trying to repair that function.  When it saw that it wasn't going to work, it was going to kill her, but the Terminator smacked him first.
When it regained that ability (a pretty fast internal repair, I'll admit), it did the replication and tried to fool John with a fake Sarah.  In the book there were imperfections (like the feet taking on the floor color) that helped John figure out which Sarah was live and which was magma-rex.

Ron 
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From: gfm@ccs.northeastern.edu (george f mcbay)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Plug Pulled on Spike Lee's "Malcolm X"
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:19:04 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. @ NU

In article <1992Apr14.005928.18743@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov> cah@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Allen Halsell) writes:

>Of course, some of them are angry already.  How many of you have seen
>lots of "X" hats and shirts?

	Actually, I'd say (at the risk of being flamed a lot on usenet) that
the "X"s are more of a fashion thing than any type of anger.  A local paper
actually ran a story on this and asked a number of people they saw with the
Hats/Shirts what the X meant, a large portion had no idea.
(This is not meant to degrade Malcolm X's message in any way, just a sad
commentary on American youth :)
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From: mem@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett)
Subject: Re: Will the Real Alan Hale stand up (was: The Sea Hawk questions)
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 07:04:10 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.192427.938@tc.fluke.COM> moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) writes:
>BTW, your guide is pretty incomplete.  Alan Hale appeared in a host of
>movies, though he is best remembered for being Errol Flynn's sidekick in
>almost every one of his adventure films.

The Martin & Porter book is definitely weak in its depth, though the
indexing effort is good.

I only replied here because I saw Alan Hale the other night in "Susan
Lenox: Her Fall and Rise," a 1931 movie with Greta Garbo and Clark Gable.
A definite soap, and while I was watching it, it made me remember
seeing him in Stella Dallas as well.

He was in lots of stuff...


>                 **>> Keep circulating the tapes <<**

what tapes are those?

-mm-


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From: nmehl@rm105serve.sas.upenn.edu (Nathan J. Mehl)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: `Hannibal' movies
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:53:38 GMT
Reply-To: nmehl@rm105serve.sas.upenn.edu
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <83572@bu.edu> nicos@cs.bu.edu (Nicos Kontopoulos) writes:
>
> I have heard that there have been movies about the character "Hannibal Hector"
>(Anthony Hopkins in "The Silence of the Lambs").

Er, it's Hannibal Lector, with an "L"...

> If you know anything about such a movie (title, availability, etc)
>please e-mail me - rec.arts.movies has too much traffic for me :-)
>
There has only been one other movie with the character in it, a 1986 film
by the title of "Manhunter."  It's available on video.

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From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Subject: Re: Jabberwoky (?)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:49:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: PANIX - Public Access Unix Systems of NY

In article <1992Apr15.152114.20106@mlb.semi.harris.com> luoni@bosco.mlb.semi.harris.com (Perry Luoni) writes:
>Jabberwoky is a Monty Python movie.  It is one my least favorite 
>of the Monty Python movies.  It is out on video.  I does have some 
>funny moments but it is slow at times also.  The best of the Monty
>Python movies is THE HOLY GRAIL


Actually, Jabberwocky is the first =post= Python film produced by Michael
Palin.

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From: terryl@sail.LABS.TEK.COM
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Lawnmowerman/Steven King
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:53:37 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <1992Apr14.131826.1@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu> bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
+In article <54579@hydra.gatech.EDU>, ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU 
+(Jorge Diaz) writes:

+>>THE LAWNMOWER MAN, yet another spiritless, insipid, King-inspired horror 
+>>film in the...                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
+> Listen up, Phantom.
 
+> THE LAWNMOWER MAN is not a spiritless, insipid, King-inspired ANYTHNG.
+> OK?  That movie has nothing in common with King's short story The
+> Lawnmower Man, except the title.

+Back off Jorge!  The Phantom said _Lawnmower Man_ was *inspired* by King,
+not *based* on King.  And the director of the movie said that he was going
+after the look and feel of one of King's works.  So yes, it was indeed 
+inspired by all of the works of Steven King.  Also one glance at the 
+Firestarter/Carriesque plot could tell you the same thing!

     Which all may be well and true, but Mr. King himself IS trying to distance
himself from the movie, and the further the better...

     It is left as an exercise to the reader to figure out what this means....

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From: ddrumm@amiganet.chi.il.us (Daniel Drumm)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Silly places KOYAANISQATSI is shelved
Date: 4 Apr 92 21:16:05 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

Scott W. Roby:
 
KOYAANISQUATSI is one of my top five personal films. I've seen Phillip Glass
perform live in concert, doing the soundtrack while the movie played behind
the orchestra. It was awesome. That film moves me.
 
Now, to the point: Does every ad agency director have to watch this film? If
not, why do so MANY commercials today rip this film off? I've seen everything
from ads for phone sex with the moon rising scene to ads for Obesession by
Calvin with a straight port of the music from the film. Commercials that have
the shots of the factory production scenes and the scenes from Grand Central
Station for like, headache medicine. Phew. 
 
For those who haven't seen this film, I recommend going to Rent-A-Center,
renting the largest direct view TV they have, a Laserdisc player, an amp, some
great speakers, and watching this is in a dark room. Or, go to the theater.
Make sure you're REALLY pensive beforehand, however.
From: jpehko@cs.joensuu.fi (Juha Pehkonen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Do not see PAST MIDNIGHT
Date: 13 Apr 92 08:16:42 GMT
Organization: University of Joensuu

sdt8s@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Stephen Daniel Tilson) writes:
>The header says it all. No spoilers here, just a word to the
>wise: DO NOT SEE THIS MOVIE,

THANKS FOR THE WARNING! Almost wasted my money, but I'm damn glad
that there's someone out there who knows what _I_ like.

Juice
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From: jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu (John Sloan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Eroticism without nudity
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:14:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: ncar.1992Apr8.181406.2711
Organization: Scientific Computing Division/NCAR Boulder, CO


Eroticism is probably _easier_ without nudity since, in a matter similar
to horror without splatter, it leaves more up to my imagination. And my
imagination is pretty damn good. Anyway, for eroticism without nudity,
you don't have to look much further than some of the old movies. My
votes go to any scene with Simone Simon in the original CAT PEOPLE, or
any scene with Greta Garbo in NINOTCHKA. Lordy lordy lordy, makes you
_almost_ forget Kathleen Turner in BODY HEAT...

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From: jtisdel@digi.lonestar.org (Michael Tisdel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: rollerball question
Summary: rollerball murder
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:18:04 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

In article <1992Apr11.055229.297@mala.bc.ca> epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp) writes:
>In article <ru88qINN6hr@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>, joneil@heretix.East.Sun.COM writes:
>> o.k. movie fans. one question i can't find the answer to.
>> 
>> on what books were the following movies based on:
>> 
>> ROLLERBALL

Rollerball was based on the novella _Rollerball Murder_.  The author
also wrote the screenplay, I think -- can't remember his name just now.

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From: janke@plains.NoDak.edu (Jeremy Janke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: What happened to this movie?
Keywords: Tom Hulce Soviet Union
Date: 11 Apr 92 22:43:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.16698
Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo


	I am looking for information about a movie I saw advertised on TV  
recently but never heard about again.  During prime time television my
roommates and I saw an ad for a new movie with the plot apparantly set in
the Soviet Union during Stalinist times.  The main characters looked like 
Soviet Military officers.  One actor looked like Tom Hulce.  One scene in 
the ad showed the image of Stalin's face projected on a cloud over Moscow, 
an event which actually occurred.

	Having been to the Soviet Union both before and after the aborted coup
attempt I was looking forward to seeing what looked like an intriguing cold 
war political thriller, but I haven't heard ANYTHING about this movie
since I saw the one advertisement about a couple months ago.
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From: kettyle@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (john.jr.kettyle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Jennifer Connelly
Keywords: Jennifer Connelly, Walt Disney, warlord-able sigs
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:57:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <2091@nlsun1.oracle.nl>, dhanna@nl.oracle.com (Damien Hanna) writes:
> Jennifer Conelly DOES appear nude in the "Hot Spot". The video I saw shows a 
> flashback scene where she is shown naked on the shore of a lake with her 
> lesbian lover. We see what the guy who is spying on her (and later blackmailing
> her to sleep with him) sees. I thought is was a good movie. She's a seriously
> good looking woman.
> 
> 
> BTW, does she appear in "Once upon a time in America" as a young girl (12 years
> old or so) ?
> 
> Damien.

I am doing this from memory... but I looked this up a few weeks ago from
the actress list that is posted in this group every so often.

Jennifer Connelly appears in these movies:
Once Upon A Time In America
Labyrinth
Creepers (?)
Hot Spot, The
Career Opportunities
Rocketteer, The

I believe that is all of them. I was also told that she is in a new 
Roy Orbisin music video.

Excuse my mistyping. :-)

John Kettyle, Jr.
From: jp07@gte.com (James Paschetto)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Please help identify a quote
Keywords: Jane, Bill Murray *NOT*
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:35:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: bunny.15865
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham MA

To the best of my recollection, Senator, the line in question was spoken
by Dan Akroyd, not Mr. Murray.
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From: sdo@hoops.mitre.org (Sean D. O'Neil)
Subject: Re: Best Film Swordfights
Organization: Research Computer Facility, MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1992 18:31:31 GMT

In article <1992Mar29.195656.29458@cs.yale.edu> loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore) writes:
>gl1e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Greg G Levrault) writes:
>
>   Anyone who enjoyed the "Princess Bride" scene will love a scene in "The
>   Court Jester"
>
>Well, this film made my "best swordfight" list too.  But the part that
>had *me* rolling on the floor was the jousting tournament: "The pellet
>with the poison is in the flagon with the dragon..."

Wasn't it, "The vessel with the pestle has the poison in the pellet,
the flagon with the dragon has the brew that is true"?

Sean
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From: teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (A. Lani Teshima)
Subject: Re: Stephen King's _Sleepwalkers_ (minor spoilers)
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 07:12:37 GMT

In article <ddrumm.229p@amiganet.chi.il.us> ddrumm@amiganet.chi.il.us (Daniel Drumm) writes:
>George F McBay:
> 
>You didn't mention "The Shining". This is easily the best adaptation of a King novel into film. Of course, Kubrick directed it. With the exception of Carpenter (Carrie), I don't think anyone of any note has attempted to take on a King book. Which suits me
> fine. After King bashed Kubrick for the way he made the Shining, and then went on to direct Max Overdrive, my opinion of him is trash. It pretty much was, anyway, after reading DANSE MACABRE. But I don't want to get into that...


Hmmmm, remember that King is primarily a writer, while Kubrick is a
director. It's difficult to gauge King's directorial abilities against
someone like Kubrick.

This whole thread has been discussed in alt.horror, but I think the
general concensus is that Kubrick might have made a good movie, but it
completely lost the point that King was making in the book, including
the fact that Jack Torrance is your Mr. Ordinary that is taken over by
the Overlook--the movie made it out like Jack was already evil.
For this reason, many people don't see if as a good _adaptation_, but
a separate movie.

  

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From: ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: NEWSIES
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:20:21 GMT
Organization: UC Davis Dept of Applied Science at LLNL

I read in today's paper that this movie had a terrible opening weekend.
I had been hoping it would turn out to be both a critical and a
commericial success, because I too love musicals and wish they'd make
some good ones nowadays.

Ed
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From: esc@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (elizabeth)
Subject: Re: "THUNDERHEART"
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 00:16:50 GMT

gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
>> Anyway, if we are debating "realism" in the movie, then doesn't an Ogalala
>> Lakota's opinion of the movie have a little more importance than all the 
>> others?

>That depends on the Oglala Lakota.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> 
>> Just one person's opinion...

>Yes.
>GMS

What exactly is _that_ supposed to mean? I would think that someone with
expertise is someone with expertise. When I read Jenenne's (sorry if I 
spelled that wrong, ma'am :) ) post, it seemed to make perfect sense
to me.  Why are people slamming her on it? She's a Native American
she has a right to have a say in this subject and if you're debating
realism then I just don't think that a white person's view has more
importance here...
elizabeth


Ob movie quote: "Bitter? Oh, a *tad*"  (it seemed rather appropos :) )
From: leeper@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Mark R. Leeper)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: THUNDERHEART
Date: 15 Apr 92 10:00:31 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr13.184204.14081@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> gmcmanus@reepicheep.gcn.uoknor.edu (Gary McManus) writes:
> >At the end of the badger scene Jimmy Looks Twice disappears and in
> >the back of the scene there is suddenly a deer jumping over a fence.
> >This in a place where it would be uncommon normally for a deer to be.

> Why would it be uncommon for a deer to be here?  I can see where the
> implication could have been made, so I guess any opinion could be 
> right.

This conversation is starting to get into real trivia.  My impression
is that deer tend to stick to wild areas and stay away from settled
areas.  Particularly because that was not a highly-settled area, it
would probably be unusual to see a deer that close to buildings.


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From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Jennifer Connelly
Keywords: Jennifer Connelly, Walt Disney, warlord-able sigs
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 04:28:38 GMT

In article <2091@nlsun1.oracle.nl> dhanna@nl.oracle.com (Damien Hanna) writes:

>BTW, does she appear in "Once upon a time in America" as a young girl (12 years
>old or so) ?

Yes.

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From: fal20643@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Capt. Frank A. Lauro)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Why Keanu should be Spider-Man
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:43:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.1992Apr10.184318.7726
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

<RHK106@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Allright, most of the posts I've read dispute my claim that Keanu should
>play Spider-Man.  I'll give you my points on why he should.

>1.  If you've ever read any Spider-Man comic, the character of Spidey is one
>of a sensitive, noble, sometimes wise-cracking superhuman who does his
>crimefighting thing because he thinks he has a responsibility to use his
>great power for good.  In other words, he has to have a sense of humor (Bill
>& Teds . . .) as well as have a serious side (Point Break).

There was a serious side to POINT BREAK?

>2.  James Cameron can get an incredible acting job out of anyone.  I like
>Arnold but you gotta admit, he's not the greatest of actors -- except in his
>Cameron movies.  (Terminator, T2)

You *are* joking.  How hard do you think it is to act like a machine?

>3.  Spider-Man is lean, but not built like a body-builder.  More like a
>diver or a lower-weight wrestler.  Keanu Reeves has the perfect Spider-Man
>body.

This is the only point I'll concede.

>4.  Reeves' face is the exact mirror of Parker's!

To refer to the first clause of point #1, have *you* ever read a Spider-Man
comic book?  I've seen well over thirty artists' renditions of Peter
Parker -- not a one has even slightly resembled Reeves.  Matching hair and
eye color does not constitute an "exact mirror".

>5.  For the movie to be a success, you gotta have somebody cool to play
>Parker or else everyone will remember that damn TV show that made Spider-Man
>look like a dork with dorky body in a dorky costume.  If you read the comic

Oh, yeah, you're right.  I mean, look at how the '60s tv show hampered
the ticket sales of BATMAN in '89.

And what qualifies Reeves as "cool" in your opinion?

>If you read the comic
>book these days, Parker isn't your bone-headed geek anymore.  He's even
>married to a supermodel.

What makes you think the movie will depict Peter's life as it is now?
I'd say an origin (read: the "bone-headed geek") is far more likely.

>6.  I must agree with whoever it was that suggested Ray Liotta, though but
>like the other guy said, he's too old.

Far too old, unless they change his origin to (at least) a late collegiate
level, as opposed to high school -- which, in many ways, would make a lot
more sense to me.
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From: "eliot gelwan" <eliot.gelwan@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: that's entertainmt?
Date: 12 Apr 92 11:54:16 EST
Reply-To: "eliot gelwan" <eliot.gelwan@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

On 04-12-92 FRANK R A J. MALONEY wrote:

FRFollowing is a list of the top-ten grossing movies in the U.S. as of 8
FRApril 1992....
FR1     WHITE MEN CAN'T JUMP               $10.2 M  $ 29.1 M
FR2     BASIC INSTINCT                      10.1 M  $ 49.1
FR3     BEETHOVEN                            7.6       debut
FR4     STRAIGHT TALK                        4.6       debut
FR5     THUNDERHEART                         4.5       debut
FR6     WAYNE'S WORLD                        4.4      93.3
FR7     MY COUSIN VINNY                      3.9      30.7
FR8     THE CUTTING EDGE                     3.4       9.1
FR9     LADYBUGS                             3.2       9.4
FR10    ROCK-A-DOODLE                        2.6        debut

And if this isn't a testimony to the mediocrity of the American
film industry or of the tastes of the American viewing public,
then I don't know what is. Anybody like anything on this list??


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