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From: knepley@CS.ColoState.EDU (Ranseus (Jim Knepley))
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: Holiday Magic...
Date: 18 Dec 92 03:51:31 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University

Both David Harkey and Jay Sankey have handlings for an effect where
you do a card trick and the deck ends up wrapped in wrapping paper
(One of them has the selected card folded and stuck into the "bow"
on top of the package).

Sankey's is in his book "100% Sankey" and Harkey's is in Genii magazine.

Really, any effect can be adapted so that it's got a holliday theme.
Well, not any effect, but a lot of them... Head Chopper would be in
bad taste...

Jim 
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From: craig@grad11.math.ncsu.edu (Ralph Craig)
Subject: Re: Two kinds of lies.
Organization: NCSU Mathematics Dept.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:57:05 GMT

In article <Bz9rJu.4tF@math.uwaterloo.ca> rbutterw@math.uwaterloo.ca (Ray Butterworth [MFCF]) writes:
>As an audience member I see two kinds of "lying".
>
>1. you tell me you will make the coin pass through the solid table.
>   This is obviously a "lie", since it is obvious that you can't
>   really make the coin do such a thing.  But that's what magic is,
>   you make a "lie" appear true, even though I know it isn't really.
>
>2. you tell me that you can read the mind of a randomly selected
>   member of the audience, but in fact the member is a plant that
>   has been rehearsed before hand.  To me that is cheating, since
>   for the trick to work you really do expect me to believe your lies.
>
>In general it's ok for you to lie so long as we both know it is a lie.
>I'm willing to suspend my disbelief, and you're talented enough to
>make that easy for me to do.
>
	I wish to add a third type to the list.  A few years ago, I saw
a hypnotist at the University of Georgia.  He began the show with a few
mind-reading and esp tricks to gain the audience's confidence.  Then he
took volunteers for the hypnosis part of his act.  What pissed me off 
about the whole thing is that at the end of the night he said something 
to the effect of:  I want everyone to leave this performance tonight
believing in the amazing power of esp which I have demonstrated tonight.
Everyone has this wonderful power.  
	Of course, he was right, everyone does have the power to perform
the stunts that he performed,  if one picks up a book of magic tricks.
But he was not honest with his audience that the illusions he performed
were just illusions, for entertainment purposes only.



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From: tnielson@dewey.NMSU.Edu (THORIN NIELSON)
Subject: Re: Lips
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:18:55 GMT

In article <15DEC92.14100266@vax.clarku.edu> fdeignan@vax.clarku.edu writes:
> Let me know if any of you try this and what reaction you get.  Don't forget -
> everything is in the patter!


THIS IS WHAT I LIKE TO READ!!!

yes.yes.yes.!

I want to send out a general request for good performance methodology!

I know many card tricks, but only a few good ways to perform them. If anybody  
has any performance that he or she holds back till the very end because it's a  
real crowd pleaser, I would love to know what it is!  

Of course, I work on my own performance methods, but sometimes it's nice to  
here about someone else's "Tried and True" Card Trick or Card effect. (One of  
my own personal favorites is the "knife force", it has NEVER failed me.)

Just proclaiming my reading preferences,

Thorin Nielson ---



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From: tenney@netcom.com (Glenn S. Tenney)
Subject: San Diego area (was Re: Need Close-up Levitation)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 22:52:07 GMT

In article <gLg1VB3w165w@netlink.cts.com> drbombay@netlink.cts.com (Walter Ladwig) writes:
>Anyone in San Diego happen to know of a good place to find magic 
>acessories.

My father has frequented Brad Burt's store for years.  I've bought
from Brad for a couple of years.  I've got nothing but great things
to say about his store.  Well, I do wish that he'd get out that
catalog, but...

Even though I'm up in Silicon Valley, and we have a store or
two of our own, I still buy from Brad.  I've heard of his videos,
and seen a few minutes of one in the store a year ago, but I've
never bought one.  Brad also adverstises in Genii, Linking Ring,
etc.  I don't think his prices are out of line (either way) from
everyone else, but I felt I got better "treatment" than I have
from other stores.

Brad Burt's Magic
4688 Convoy St. #109
San Diego

619-571-4749
800-748-5759

Just a satisfied customer...  Tell him I sent ya via a net reference...

-- 
Glenn Tenney
voice: (415) 574-3420      fax: (415) 574-0546
tenney@netcom.com          Ham radio: AA6ER
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From: fdeignan@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Lips
Organization: Clark University
Date: 15 DEC 92 14:10:02 GMT

This is a card effect from Canada's Cameriand Society of Magic (Gary
Ouellet) which originally came from Tony Binarelli, I believe.  I have
been using it lately and getting GREAT response from it.  The crowd loves
it! ... and it's simple to perform.

EFFECT: A woman is chosen to help you with this effect.  You casually
show a deck of blue-backed cards while you talk.  You can show both
sides to let the fact sink in that it really is a full deck of blue-
backed cards and that it is a regular deck with all four suits, etc.
The spectator then chooses "any card" and shows it to the other people
present.  You have her replace it on top of the deck, then cut the deck
in half to bury the chosen card.  I then tell her that I'm working with
a very unusual deck of cards because the deck actually is sensitive
and has feelings.  I hold up the deck and ask her to blow a kiss towards
the deck.  When this is done I over react and say something like, "Wow!
That was some kiss!  I didn't mean for you to get so into it!  I told
you that my deck was very sensitive.  That kiss might have actually
embarrassed my card!"  I then ribbon-spread the deck in front of her.
There in the middle of the deck sits ONE red-backed card.  I have the
spectator turn it over.  Not only is it her chosen card, it also has
an imprint of red lipstick right in the middle!  I show the card
around and then hand the card to the spectator, telling her to keep
the card as a souvenir.

NOTES: Gary Ouellet markets this effect in two ways.  The package comes
with all the props needed, and the booklet comes just with the instructions.
The trick is actually very simple to do, but has a tremendous impact
upon lay people.  Around Boston we have a stamp company called Inka-Dinka-
Doo.  They manufacture all types of rubber stamps.  I went through their
stock one day in Boston and found a stamp of a kiss.  The stamp along
with a red stamp pad gives me an endless supply of "red-backed spectator
cards".  Granted it isn't a trick that you'll see Copperfield doing on
his next special, but believe me when I say that it will go over great
as a quickie to show the girls in the office.  Doesn't take much time
to change a regular deck and make it ready for this effect.

Let me know if any of you try this and what reaction you get.  Don't forget -
everything is in the patter!
From: mappler@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Matthew A Appler)
Subject: Re: Gimmick problems  2/2
Organization: /usr/users/user4/mappler/.organization
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 17:44:57 GMT

Your post was good, but I find one major problem with discussing
some of the things in this group.  Many tricks require people to not
KNOW of the EXISTANCE of certain props and gimmics.  If people knew
that you could even be using gimmics for certain tricks, suddenly the
trick doesn't seem as impressive.  I've been working on a trick this
week and showing my friends here at school.  They have been completely
fooled and amazed because they don't know that a certain prop I'm
using exists.....If I showed them the props I have, my tricks wouldn't
seem as impressive.  This forum is as public as you can get.

  Matt
--
Matthew Appler - Unichussetts of Massaversity
mappler@titan.ucc.umass.edu

 -You can only be young once, but you can ALWAYS be immature....:)
From: rkatos@hpunila.MSR.HP.COM (Ray Katos)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:38:18 GMT
Subject: Re: Chip Berlet
Organization: Hewlett Packard Sales, Naperville IL
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy

My friend meg says:

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Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:13231 talk.politics.misc:64527
From: pierce@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Brad Pierce)
Subject: U. of British Columbia's campus newspaper
Originator: kadie@eff.org
Old-Message-Id: <1992Dec6.201634.22341@cs.ucla.edu>
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1992 20:16:34 GMT

---------------------  FORWARDED POSTING  ----------------------------
-- 
Carl Kadie -- I do not represent EFF; this is just me.
 =kadie@eff.org, kadie@cs.uiuc.edu =
From: dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren)
Subject: Re: PORTLAND: American Front (Hate group) transcript
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:26:10 GMT


rchilder@us.oracle.com (Richard Childers) writes:
#R. Greenfield writes:

##But I must admit, I find this *very* strange.  What could Mr. Keren's
##citizenship status have to do the discussion at hand?
#
#It suggests that he is not unbiased where B-CPU is concerned. I agree that
#B-CPU is alarming, but I also think that trashing UUCP sites is alarming.

I think quite a few people are biased about neo-Nazis. However, I
hope you are not saying I ever indulged in "trashing UUCP sites". I
have *never* mailed the B-CPU Nazis anything, and never had *any*
contact with them, except for over the public domain of the net. So,
please, don't hint that I did anything of the sort. If someone of
them told you I have, he is a bloody liar (nothing new about that)
and I will sue him for slander. 

#Just biased, and less than honest, since he only admits this when directly
#questioned. 

Now I am really confused. Should I sign each of my posters by
"he who has a dual citizenship"? Did I ever deny it? did anyone
ever ask me about it? And what has it got to do with anything? This
is really weird.

#I have nothing against dual citizenships, but I _do_ have some-
#-thing against hidden agendas.

My agendas are not hidden (unless you know some of them which I am
unfamiliar with).

#Did Danny suggest
#that I was racially slurring him ? 

No. But why did you link me to "trashing UUCP sites"?

-Danny Keren.

Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:13169 alt.censorship:9639
From: f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Shamir's Disturbing Remarks
Date: 19 Dec 92 11:05:35 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University


Recently in reading UPI press releases I came across some most disturbing
racial comments by former Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Shamir. [The
report was dated December 16th].  As reported Shamir said

	``We are familiar with the Arabs for many centuries, from the 
closest of contacts. We know that these people have no respect for human
life....They really like it, they desire it, they enjoy each murder.''

	Such racial comments coming from ignorant skinheads in Portland
might be expected for they are going to act in character. But these remarks 
came from a former head of state which makes the poison that much more
reprehensible.                                         

Further, according to the UPI report, Shamir said in an interview, just
days after losing the election to Rabin, that he had hoped to drag out
the talks on Palestinian autonomy for at least a decade.

With this revelation of a total lack of sincerity in dealing forthrightly
for peaceful solutions to the problems of the area, what chance does the
Middle East have?  Why  does the beleaguered US taxpayer continue to
support the Israeli government in this charade?

Now we see the expulsion of 400 Palestinians from the land of their
birth to a no-man's land in southern Lebanon.  Is this the start of
a Meir Kahane style solution to the "Palestinian problem?"  This is
reminescent of the expulsion of Poles from Germany prior to WWII.

I believe these events must be very upsetting to many decent Israeli
citizens.  And they are certainly upsetting to many non-Israelis who do
not care for fascist acts and strong-arm government regardless of the           
flag being flown. The time to speak up about this matter of inalienable
human rights is now before the simmering pot boils over.

-Joe Gaut
From: 00vmszopa@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Bar codes and Antichrist?
Date: 17 Dec 92 07:09:59 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's


I've heard it mentioned several times now: some people believe
that supermarket bar codes contain or are involved with the 
"Number of the Beast."

Just two days ago I found a classified ad in the local paper that said
merely "666" and gave a phone number.  On calling this (which I did, and
a friend recorded), I heard a LONG (5+minute) rave about Revelations,
the coming apocalypse, the antichrist and...supermarket bar code readers.

Has anyone else seen a number like this?  Called one?
There was no identifying info about who was responsible, but I will review 
the tape.  I would love to know if this is a widespread phenomenon and if
some concerted effort is being made to disseminate this.

===========================================================================
00vmszopa@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu     			   Vincent M. Szopa
Ball State University    Muncie, IN 	USA
Nothing in this post should be construed as an official or unofficial
opinion, statement, or position of Ball State.
KING FELIX
From: cberlet@igc.apc.org (NLG Civil Liberties Committee)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: An open letter to Chip Berlet
Date: 15 Dec 92 05:22:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:news.cerf.net:4004:cdp:1299600155:000:513
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!cberlet    Dec 14 21:22:00 1992


Dear Jon Volkoff:
   Dr. Beter's messages are a deranged pastiche of Birch Society conspiracy
theory, LaRouchian lunacy, nodules of Gary North, a soupcon of Sutton and
his vast banking conspiracy, a triptich of Trilateral testosterone madness
syndrome (TMS), all glued together with a powerful paranoid pulsating
personal ego the vastness of which could only be measured in terms usually
reserved for cosmic events.
   Thank you for asking my opini, which, I suspect, you knew would be
not positive.
-Chip Berlet
From: cberlet@igc.apc.org (NLG Civil Liberties Committee)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Bellant: Old Nazi Networks in US
Date: 12 Dec 92 02:27:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1299600110:000:2462
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!cberlet    Dec 11 18:27:00 1992


/* Written  9:10 pm  Dec  8, 1992 by cberlet in igc:publiceye */
/* ---------- "Bellant: Old Nazi Networks in US" ---------- */
/* Written  8:30 pm  Dec  6, 1992 by cberlet in igc:p.news */
/* ---------- "Bellant: Old Nazi Networks in US" ---------- */
/* Written  3:20 pm  Mar  4, 1990 by nlgclc in igc:publiceye */
/* ---------- "Bellant: Old Nazi Networks in US" ---------- */
Bellant: Old Nazis/NOTICE
		
OLD NAZIS, THE NEW RIGHT, AND THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION
	
The Role of Domestic Fascist Networks 
in the Republican Party
and Their Effect on U.S. Cold War Politics
	
Second Edition
	
by Russ Bellant
	
Political Research Associates
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Print version: $6.50 includes shipping
     
The Response files that follow contain the full text
of the Bellant/PRA report which documented charges that a network
of anti-Semites, racists, fascists, and emigre nazi 
collaborators were involved in the George Bush Presidential
campaign.
	
About Political Research Associates:
	
Political Research Associates is an independent research 
institute which collects and disseminates information on 
right-wing political groups and trends. Centralized in its 
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From: sheaffer@netcom.com (Robert Sheaffer)
Subject: Re: Dr. Beter AUDIO LETTER #21 of 80
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:34:34 GMT

In article <jyc.724025600@Leland> jyc@leo.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis) writes:
>   Please tell me his first name is Peter.   Please please please please
>please please ... 

    It **IS**, you know. This is no joke! I know people who have been
    giggling about this guys' ravings since the Carter administration.

    How's *that* for a clever pseudonym? Almost as good as "Ima Fake".
    And yet there's always *somebody* who'll believe this crap!

-- 
  
        Robert Sheaffer - Scepticus Maximus - sheaffer@netcom.com
  
 Past Chairman, The Bay Area Skeptics - for whom I speak only when authorized!


     "Mystical explanations are considered deep. The truth is that
      they are not even superficial."

                   - Friedrich Nietzsche    (The Gay Science: 126)
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Subject: Re: Letter From AISB to POEE
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 17:24:09 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway in Parnell New Zealand.

drbombay@netlink.cts.com (Walter Ladwig) writes:

>      Ah, I get spaced just thinking about.  Good luck on the Principa.  
> Ewige Blumkenraft! HAIL ERIS
 
 I get spaced just thinking that you think you believe this claptrap :)

----
 "Hey Fred" "what'ya want?" "These yanks just love to blame another Joe
 for their problems. Must be their Catholic hertitage!" "poor sods!"
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,ba.politics,ca.politics
From: rdaniels@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Robert E. Daniels)
Subject: Re: The Nixon Tapes - A New Chapter
Keywords: Nixon, Tricky Dick
Organization: University of North Carolina
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 14:32:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.121910.14099@engage.pko.dec.com> busta@vicki.enet.dec.com writes:
>
>In article <1992Dec16.231816.4090@oracle.us.oracle.com>, rchilder@us.oracle.com (Richard Childers) writes...
>> 
>>I was listening to CBC - Canadian Broadcasting Corporation - the other
>>day, their excellent Sunday morning news and events program, called, not
>>too surprisingly, _Sunday Morning_, and heard an interesting snippet.
>> 
>>Seems that, through a FOIA request, someone has discovered another one
>>of Tricky Dick's underhanded plots. This one wasn't actually implemented,
>>but it _was_ discussed at considerable length ... and recorded.
>> 
>>When Wallace was shot by his would-be assassin, apparently in the hours
>>just after the fact, the possibility was raised that someone - specifically,
>>the covert operator E. Howard Hunt - should slip into this person's house -
>>which was filled with politically extremist materials - and replace it all
>>with McGovern materials.
>
     [deletions]
>>... it seems to raise the probability of other misbehavior
>>and suggests that every legal decision that occurred during the Nixon years
>>should have been re-examined for covert influences.
>
>  Including the assassination of JFK. I'm not going to say he was involved
> but I believe he had inside information as to the `who did what when' of it
> all. The are more than a few places on the so-called `Watergate' tapes where
> Tricky Dick and his boys are discussing `not wanting to get into/bring up all
> that Bay of Pigs business' or their little house of cards might come tumbling
> down. By this time, 1972/3, there was really nothing secret about the Bay of
> Pigs (operations Mongoose/Zapata), 
>so what is it they were really referring to?
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>>-- richard childers		rchilder@us.oracle.com		1 415 506 2411
>
>Paul R. Busta	Busta@vicki.enet.dec.com                       Salem,N.H.  

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

The following is from page 33 of the paperback edition of HIGH TREASON
by Robert J. Groden and Harrison Edward Livingstone (1990, New York:
Berkley Books):

"H. R. Haldeman tells us in _The Ends of Power_, `In all of those Nixon
references to the Bay of Pigs (in the White House tapes) he (Nixon) was
actually referring to the Kennedy assassination..."

Clear enough?


Robert Daniels                robert_daniels@unc.edu
---------------------------------------------------------------
From: stuartz@sco.COM (Stuart Zimny)
Subject: Re: Bar codes and Antichrist?
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:47:03 GMT


In article <bill.724622379@castor> bill@cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge) writes:
>00vmszopa@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
>
>
>>I've heard it mentioned several times now: some people believe
>>that supermarket bar codes contain or are involved with the 
>>"Number of the Beast."

Not true.  I spotted Jesus Christ at my local "Stop and Shop"
recently.  For those interested, he was purchasing some T.V. dinners
for a Hanukah celebration.

Go figure....

-- 
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Stuart Zimny
Internet: stuartz@sco.COM                             SCO Technical Staff 
UUCP    : ...!{uunet}!sco!stuartz            

"The Lord gives me grace and the Devil gives me style"
                                   -Gambel Rogers

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