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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:08:00 LCL
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         "White, Sam" <MTSSLW.CCADM2@SMTPGWY2.GSU.EDU>
Subject:      LWP fragmentation ?
X-To:         novell <novell%suvm@gsuvm1.BITNET>

Hello All,  I am relatively new to the IP world and am having a problem
with LWP v4.01 and believe it is a fragmentation problem that I don't
think should be happening.  Below is a crude drawing of what I am trying
to test.



                Token ring         Ethernet         Token ring
               (4K packets)     (1500b packets)    (4k packets)
              |---------------|R|-------------|R|---------------|
                 |                   |                    |
                 |                   |                    |
                WS A                WS B                 WS C


*|R| is an IP
     router


Examples

   1. If I try to ftp a file whose file size exceeds 1500 bytes from
      WS A to WS C LAN Work Place will hang and when I watch the transfer

      via a protocol analyzer, The send station continuously resends the
      data and the receiving station appears to ignore it.

   2. If I try to ftp a file that exceeds 1500 bytes from WS A to WS B
      Lan work place transfers the file fine.

   3. If I take example 1 and change the packet size to 1520 then the
file          transfers work fine between all three workstations.



   I assumed that because both end stations WS A and WS C are using token
ring and are using the same packet size (4k) that i would not have a
fragmentation problem? My reasoning for this is that I assumd that
ethernet packets would be smaller (max 1500 bytes) than the token ring
packets and the receiving station would be able to put the fragmented
packets back together.


Am I completely wrong or should what I am trying to do work?


Any help would be appreciated




Sam White
Sys. Comm. Analyst IV
Ga. State University
Wells Computer Center
mtsslw@gsuvm1.gsu.edu
From: medici@dorm.rutgers.edu (Mark Medici)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Re: IIIsi Problem
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:01:06 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

BOUCHER@SI.SI.UQAM.CA (Sylvain Boucher) writes:

| >     We recently got a new HP IIIsi and have it doing almost everything we
| > want it to.  However here is the slight problem we are having.
| >     The printer is in a computer lab, and is being used when users exit
| > the menu system and go to DOS.  In some situations for security each
| > computer logs into the server as a generic ("dummy") user which has
| > [RF] rights only in the sys:\login directory of our server.
| >     The printer by default is in PostScript mode and after the computer
| > logs in it captures the queue with a j=hp_pcl which is set up for PCL
| > mode.  For all other users, (who have additional rights to "public"
| > directories etc.) this is not a problem.  But for this generic account it
| > returns an error message saying "Hp_pcl is not a valid PrintCon job
| > definition."
| >     We have run SMODE (option 5) on the capture in the sys:\login
| > directory, and also copied printcon.dat into this directory.  What is
| > missing???????????
| >
| 
| 
| Copy printcon.dat in SYS:MAIL\user_id directory.

This suggestion will certainly work, but may not provide the easy
managability you are looking for.

Instead, you may want to try copying (or moving) the printcon.dat to a
directory that is search-mapped on login (such as sys:public).  SMODE
will only search for data files when the default (current) drive is
a network drive mapping, and will only look for data on network drives
mapped as search drives.

I hope I've explained this clearly to you.-- 
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RUCS     | Mark A. Medici, Systems Programmer III, User Services Division
User     | Rutgers University Computing Services, New Brunswick, NJ 08903
Services | [medici@gandalf.rutgers.edu]                    [908-932-2412]
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:49:00 EDT
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         Bob Newlin <DBHIVE@DUKEMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: OS/2 and Novell Requestor

> What exactly is the Novell Requestor for OS/2 and what does it do?
> Do you need to access a novell server?  I tried running the
> shells in a DOS window, but I got incorrect version from NetX.COM.
>
NETX serves as an interpreter and redirector of DOS commands to
Novell.  When a program asks for a DOS service, NETX intercepts
that request and determines whether to pass it on to DOS or fill
the request from network resources.

Since OS/2 is a different operating system, it needs a new (and
much more powerful) utility.  The requestor not only lets you run
OS:2 using Novell resources as you do with DOS, but has several
options for handling the multiple tasks that can occur under OS/2.
(For example, should this window have an access and drives shared
by other windows, or should it have its own login and set-up).
I'm just starting to play with it, but both OS/2 and the requestor
have really impressed me!

By the way, to run the current version of NETX you need to boot a
window with a current version of DOS.  See Boot from A or Boot from
an image file.  This will give you a stable network window, but
only that window will have the network available.

Bob Newlin, PhD                   BITNET: DBHIVE@DUKEMVS
Associate Dir., Planning Office   INTERNET: DBHIVE@DUKEMVS.AC.DUKE.EDU
106 Jordan Bldg
Duke University,  Durham, NC 27706  919-684-2331
From: u5533129@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
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Subject: installing a SCSI drive with NW 2.2
Date: 30 Jul 92 07:02:32 GMT
Organization: The University of Melbourne


A guy in another department has bought a SCSI drive and Netware 2.2 and is now
trying to do the installation.  We get to the drive type and are offered a
number of options, four for the PS/2, one for a standard ISA drive and one for
a Novell disk coprocessor, or the opertunity to put in our own driver disk.

Should we choose the standard ISA drive option, or should we have a special
driver?

Thanks,

Peter Summers
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 12:47:00 PDT
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From:         "Que Gatlin" <EKAPQUE@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      re: Supervisor Grace Logins

  Is anyone aware of a fix or patch that will allow you to limit
the number of Supervisor's grace log-ins in Version 3.11?  I
noticed that I've been unable to do this in the regular Account
Restrictions menu even when logged in as Supervisor. (I just
downloaded the latest version of SYSCON, v. 3.68, however it
still doesn't fix the problem).  I don't know how serious a
problem this might be, but Security reports it as an excessive
right...  Any suggestions?  Thanks.
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 09:51:44 CST
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From:         "Craig C. Tierney" <CRAIG@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Subject:      Novell 4.0 Upgrading
X-To:         NOVELL%SUVM.BITNET@UAFSYSB.UARK.edu

A while back, upgrading prices for Novell 4.0 were mentioned. In
InformationWeek (July 27), it said Novell has setup and upgrade
policy.  The article read as follows:

"Novell said last week it will allow existing usrs of NetWare 3.11 to
purchase upgrades to NetWare 4.0 through October.  NetWare 4.0 is not
slated for release until year's end, but Novell wants customers to
budget for the new version of the network operating system ahead of
time.  The offer, dubbed the Premium Upgrade package, includes
network management software and an on-line bulletin board for
troubleshooting.  It costs from $495 for five users to $3,150 for 250
users for existing 3.11 customers.  For new 3.11 customers, the price
will range from $1,295 to $14,995."

I am wondering if this means that if I am an existing owner, and I do
not upgrade by October, by upgrade price will be the second set of
numbers, or are the second set of numbers just the range of retail
prices for 4.0?  Any psychic predictions would be appreciated.

A general question about upgrading.  I have heard that Novell has a
40% educational discount on Netware, but does the educational
discount apply to upgrades?

Thanks

Craig Tierney (craig@ae.agecon.wisc.edu)
University of Wisconsin-Madison
Department of Agricultural Economics
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 11:07:37 EDT
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From:         John Brzezicki <JOHN@GODZILLA.VILL.EDU>
Subject:      environmental values
X-To:         novell@suvm.acs.syr.edu

>> There was somewhere, in the long and distant past,  a program that
>> would discover what was attached to a PC (eg VGA, EGA, Mono
>> adapter, 3.5" or 5" drives, maths copro, amount of RAM etc.) The
>> program then created appropriate environment variables with the
>> details.

> There's also one called Config.exe, I got it from the Lan Technology
> magazine BBS.


    One problem with config.exe.  It no longer sets the environmental
values when msdos v5.0 is used and the line DOS=HIGH is used in
config.sys. If dos is loaded low, the program works as before. I've
noticed this problem with other programs that try to access the
master environment by using DOS int 21h function 052h (get MSDOS list
of lists) . My question is, what is the proper technique to find the
master environment when dos is loaded high ?   Has this question
already been asked before, can someone point me in the right
direction ??

- Thanks in advance


        There were 2 versions of config.exe. One from Lan Technology
magazine that produced the following output:


          SYSTEM CONFIGURATION v2.0
          =========================
          MODEL.....30
          PS/2......YES
          MCA.......NO
          CPU.......808x
          CLASS.....PC
          FPU.......NO
          DATE......03/30/90
          CONV......640
          EXP.......NO
          EXT.......NO
          MOUSE.....NO
          ROM DATE..02/05/87
          MODE......COLOR
          VIDEO.....MCGA
          VERSION...3.30
          =========================

        You can find it  on wuarchive.wustl.edu
        /systems/novell/util/supervis/environ.exe


        The other, modified version was from Mike Klein   at WIU,
and produced this output:

          SYSTEM CONFIGURATION v2.0
          =========================
          CPU.......386
          CLASS.....AT
          FPU.......F
          CONV......640
          EXP.......T (592K)
          EXT.......T (512K)
          MOUSE.....F
          MODE......COLOR
          VIDEO.....VGA
          PSTAT.....70
          NETADDR...CC00



I have the source code to both programs SOMEWHERE and would be
willing to dig them out for anyone interested.
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 19:39:54 CDT
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From:         wittmann@ENGR.WISC.EDU
Subject:      Re: LPD/LPQ for Netware?

In article <920726161438.2260031d@DARWIN.NTU.EDU.AU> you write:
|> Jason Ruiter writes,
|>
|> >Is there an LPD/LPQ (not sure which one....) NLM for NetWare 3.11 I can FTP
   or
|> >Download from somewhere?
|>
|> >I'd like to be able to print to Netware queues from my Vaxen running Multine
   t
|> >via TCP/IP.
|>
|> I do not know if this is really what you want, but we use CHARON 2.0A to do
|> this, amongst other things and it works very well. We run Multinet 3.1 on a
|> MicroVAX 3400 with VMS 5.5-0 and have had no problems.
|>

If you want a commercial solution, Novell now sells Flex/IP for $2500 list.
It contains xconsole, LPR, LPD and FTP nlms.

Art

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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 07:47:00 LCL
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From:         "White, Sam" <MTSSLW.CCADM2@SMTPGWY2.GSU.EDU>
Subject:      IBM token Ring in fast PCs
X-To:         novell <novell%suvm@gsuvm1.BITNET>

I have just received several 486-50 machines and have run into a small
problem  with the token ring card not initializing when cold booting the
systems.   If I warm boot the machines the cards initialize correctly.  I
think I have a timing problem between the cards and novell's token.com
program.

Has anyone seen this problem and if so How did you correct the problem?






+-------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
| Sam White                     |                                      |
| Sys. Comm. Analyst IV         |"ka-boom...theres supposed to be an   |
| Wells Computer Center, GSU    | earth shattering ka-boom!"           |
| 404.651.2639                  |                                      |
| mtsslw@gsuvm1.gsu.edu         | -- the martian                       |
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From:         "David M. Kobbervig" <DAVE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Subject:      Login problem

Dear Netters:

I am attempting to fix a major mistake.  To make it short:  All of
SYSTEM and LOGIN were deleted.  I didn't think of salvage, I recopied
the appropriate files from the original floppies.  I rebooted the
server and now all the stations can establish a connection and get
the f:login prompt but when they try to run login.exe it reports
"This program cannot be run from DOS mode."  Can anyone offer any
assistance on this?  Thank you very much.  The LOGIN directory had to
be recreated from scratch using "md".  This might be causing a
problem.

Dave

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Programmer
Agricultural Economics Computing Center
University of Wisconsin, Madison
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From: gamerine@bluemoon.rn.com (Glenn Amerine)
Subject: Re:      WSUPDATE (where is it?)
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 19:07:45 EDT

        NCUT000 <NCUT@SLUMUS.BITNET> writes:

> I've seen a little program that will compare two files with the same
> name and replace the older of the two with the newer.  I think it's
> called WSUPDATE (or something like that).  I believe it's a novell
> utility, but I can't seem to find it.  Any ideas where I can locate
> this little gem.  Or for any other suggestions - I'm open.  My problem
> is this:  IBM has release several updates to their version of Dos 5.
> In fact it's now quite a bit different than it used to be.  To that end
> I have to update the local dos on a number of my workstations.  If I
> could load the latest version of the files into the dos directory on
> the server I could use that to compare and replace on the local disk.

What version of NetWare are you using? On 3.11 wsupdate is located in the 
SYSTEM subdirectory.


 This is from
     gamerine@bluemoon.rn.com
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Date:         Sat, 25 Jul 1992 10:13:00 EST
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From:         James Peterson x3255 <JPETERSON@ZDTICO.ZIS.ZIFF.COM>
Subject:      Re: COMMS SERVER REQUIRED?
X-To:         NOVELL@SUVM.SYR.EDU

You could probably buy an old terminal server that does LAT or TCP fairly
cheaply.  Then run Telnet or an emlator that does LAT (Persoft, WRQ) to get in.

jpeterson@zis.ziff.com
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Date:         Sat, 25 Jul 1992 13:18:04 PDT
Reply-To:     narf@hitl.washington.edu
From:         narf@HITL.WASHINGTON.EDU
Subject:      telephone access question
X-To:         novell%suvm.bitnet@hitl.washington.edu

I'm kind of new to this novell thang; I've long been a hacker of Unix
and Mac networks. I became quite spoiled by the wonderful Appletalk
system at my last job, and I get really frustrated with how hard it is
to get Novell stuff to work right, but it does come together
eventually.  I daresay one must become more of an expert in Novell
land than in Appleshare land.  Anyway, I'm looking for the
functionality of the Appletalk Shiva netmodem - dial in, and be on the
network.  Everything just works, and works well.  The monkey wrench in
the deal is that we're also doing lots of TCP/IP stuff, so we have
packet drivers, etc.  We run NCSA (for the DOS crowd) and QVT (for the
poor slobs who put up with Windows).  Is there an equivalent to the
packet driver for async dialin, and what would one have to put on the
network end to support this?  I'm interested in low-budget solutions;
We can't afford to shell out multiple $K for it.  Performance is less
important than functionality. And, just for laughs, is there any way
that a Mac could dial in equivalently? Maybe I'm in fantasy land, but
there's no reason why all these things shouldn't be possible.  Thanks
for your time.
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:18:48 -0600
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: IPXODI etc. with Netware 2.15

>I'd like to make a Netware 2.15 network with
>ODI. Would someone tell me whether or not this
>can be done ? I'd appreciate it greatly, as it
>might save me learning to set up a Novell network
>for nothing If I can't have ODI with version 2.15.
---------------
        You will be happy to know that ODI is nothing more than a packet/frame
management agent and does not modify what's on the wire from non-ODI shells.
Right, I can hear Novell mgmt saying "nothing more than...! Yikes." In your
case go ahead and use ODI material in the client shells, realizing that you
might also be advancing in release level too (normally a good thing, but
not every time).
           Joe D.
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 09:38:21 -0600
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Server Crash When Printing

>
>OK, this is my setup AUTOEXEC.NCF & STARTUP.NCF using Netware 3.11
>
>AUTOEXEC.NCF
>------------
>file server name TEXMATI2
>ipx internal net 3
>load streams
>load clib
>load mathlib
>load ipxs
>load spxs
>load remote
>load rspx
>mount all
>
>load 3C527 slot=4 frame=ethernet_802.3 name=enet-ipx
>bind IPX to enet-ipx net=1
>load 3C527 slot=4 frame=ethernet_ii name=etalk1
>bind IPX to etalk1 net=2
>load appletlk -t zone={"InfoSys"} net=6
>bind appletlk to etalk1 zone={"InfoSys"} net=11262
>
>rem LOAD APPLETALK PRINTING SERVICES
>load afp
>load atps -v
        <much removed>
>======================================================================
>Mayfield Harris              Phone: 713-527-4642
>LAN Specialist                 Fax: 713-527-6099
>Rice University           Internet: mharris@ricevm1.rice.edu
>======================================================================
        Look at the second load. It's reusing the board, which is ok. The
frame for Appletalk should be Ethernet_SNAP. The second bind is an error
because IPX should not be bound to the same board twice. Why the server
should crash under this circumstance is not clear. Here's my setup for
reusing a board -

file server name EDU-USU-NETLAB2
ipx internal net 817b012c
set maximum alloc short term memory=8000000
set allow unencrypted passwords=on
set reply to get nearest server=off
set enable packet burst statistics screen=on
set maximum directory cache buffers=2000
set maximum outstanding NCP searches=500
mount all
load nmagent
load streams
load clib tz=MST7MDT
load mathlibc
load tli
load ipxs
load spxs
load pburst
load ne2000 int=5 port=360 frame=Ethernet_II name=bbone
bind ipx bbone net=817bfe00
load ne2000 int=5 port=360 frame=Ethernet_snap name=atbone
load appletlk net=52982 zone={"CASS"}
bind appletlk to atbone net=100-199 zone={"CASS"}
load afp
load rspx
        etc

        Joe D.
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:03:00 NZST
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From:         J.Baird@ONO.LINCOLN.AC.NZ
Subject:      Re: Disk space/Read property Value

>From: CACHO%ITESO.BITNET@SUVM.SYR.EDU
>I'm trying to write an application to search for users that
>don't have adequate disk restrictions, and want to read this from
>the bindery.  The problem is that I cannot find any property like
>"MAX_DISK_SPACE" or something.  I don't know in which prop. is written
>this restriction.

Under NW 2.1x and 2.2, each user's disk quota is stored in the LOGIN_CONTROL
property. I've just posted the structure of this property in another message.
Under 3.x, you have volume quotas and directory quotas, neither of which
are stored in the bindery. You need the C Interface v1.2 for the relevant
APIs.

I've written some quota management utilities which might meet your needs.
Get jrbutils.zip from splicer.cba.hawaii.edu or netlab2.usu.edu. Or, you
can get the latest versions of the quota management utilities from
ono.lincoln.ac.nz where they are in quota.zip in the default directory.
The most significant enhancement is the getquota (nquota in jrbutils)
now allows sorting by username, quota, space used, or space available.

John

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