HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: demes@chopin.udel.edu (James A Demes)
Subject: Re: FTP lyric
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:15:09 GMT

>*Some* Beatles lyrics are available at cs.uwp.edu (in directory 
>pub/music/lyrics). Chords to some Beatles songs may be found at
>ftp.nevada.edu (in directory pub/guitar/Beatles).
>Many ftp sites are reluctant to house Beatles lyrics because it's
>a copyright infringement.

According to the new disclaimers at cs.uwp.edu, the database falls under
"fair use", and therefore is not an infringement.  FTP to the database
to read the copyright notice.

>If you want to check legitimate publications, two available sources
>are Alan Aldridge's "The Beatles Illustrated Lyrics" and Campbell &
>Murphy's "Things We Said Today". Both may be available in university
>libraries, or through specialty book services like Beatlefest (1-800-
>BEATLES).

And also "The Complete Beatles Lyrics", which is now being published
in the US by Hal Leonard.

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From: brennan@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: BEATLES LIVE
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:56:43 GMT
Reply-To: brennan@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Oct12.162627.5057@rigel.econ.uga.edu> connie@uga.edu
(Connie M. Doss) writes:

>I have a bootleg Beatles album live at Whiskeyflat in Atlanta GA but I
>have been told they never played in Atlanta.  Does anyone know if they
>ever played there?

That's a relatively common (so to speak) early boot.  The experts say
the real date and place are unknown but it is not Atlanta.

--Joe Brennan
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: djs@sadtler.com
Subject: Re: Couple of Questions
Organization: Sadtler Research Laboratories
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:30:35 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.155833.16161@rigel.econ.uga.edu> connie@uga.edu (Connie M. Doss) writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.093304.1447@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu> marulanda@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
>>Questions Galore:
>>Anyone know the story behind Dr Robert?
>
>Dr. Robert gave out pills.  I think.


Dr. Robert was an actual doctor that allegedly prescribed all sorts of drugs
to specific clients (read music / movie stars).  I was once told that this was
the same doctor connected to Elvis's drug problems.  Clarification anyone?

-- 
D. Sears                                          Email:  djs@sadtler.com
post += disclaimer;                   Sadtler Research Labs, Philadelphia 
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Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: brody@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Adam R. Brody )
Subject: Re: Mail problems
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:06:39 GMT

dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu (saki) writes:

>Sorry to bother the public about this.

>I still can't reach two people with requested notes. Mail bounces no
>matter how it's sent. Mr. tmdbutch@descartes.uwaterloo.ca may be out
>of luck, and Adam Brody, who has sent me three accounts to try, is
>not reachable via any of those addresses.

>If either of you would like to have your sysop or postmaster contact
>me and give me a workable path, I'd be happy to send you your notes.


I really appreciate all the effort you've apparently made and con't
figure out why you can't send to me.  You apparently are receiving
my mail?  I get mail from all over the country successfully but
for some reason, yours is intercepted.  Might there be something
peculiar in the connection between us?

Please try replying to this message.

Thanks again!
From: helper@castle.ed.ac.uk (A Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: track listings
Date: 9 Oct 92 10:54:09 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Edinburgh University

Can someone give me track listings for A hard days night, help and
beatles for sale?
Arthur Wilson
From: connie@uga.edu (Connie M. Doss)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: BEATLES LIVE
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:36:41 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

Butcher cover is mono.  Its first state, cover in very good shape except
for one bent corner.  I am not greedy just want to know the value of it.

Connie Mobley
Statistics
University of Georgia
From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Couple of Questions
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:04:22 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Oct13.093304.1447@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu> marulanda@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:

>Questions Galore:
>What other song besides FLYING (Magical Mystery Tour) is attributed to 
>all four Beatles?  Who kept the Copyright of songs that weren't 
>Lennon-McCartney or Harrisongs?
>Anyone know the story behind Dr Robert?
>THanks, 
>Federico

Answer #1: If memory serves, "Dig It" was also attributed to "Lennon/
McCartney/Harrison/Starr". Not an instrumental, but it was a jam with
(presumably) everyone contibuting to the composition by making up their
respective parts as they went along...

Answer #2: That depends on who owned the rights to the song in the first
place.  If it was Ringo's song, Ringo kept the copyright.  If it was a
cover, whoever had the copyright kept it.  If it was one of the songs
attributed to all four (or three in the case of "What Goes On") the rights
are divided up (presumably equally) between all the parties credited.
Assuming equal division, 50% to Maclen, 25% to Harrisongs, and 25% to
Ringo. (However, since those are two of the *least* covered Beatlesongs,
I think it's a bit of a moot point.)

Answer #3: According to the popular-rumor mill, Dr. Robert was a
doctor/pharmacist to the rich-and-famous who was quite liberal with his
dispensing of certain behind-the-counter pills. I don't recall if any
of the Boys started/confirmed this rumor.

Answer #4: THERE IS NO ANSWER #4! I-)

			James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: a70901@uwasa.fi (Mikko Suhonen)
Subject: Ringo solos
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 10:37:03 GMT

I would like to know if and when Apple/Emi is going to release
Ringo's solo albums on cd (namely "Sentimental Journey","Beaucoups
of Blues" and "Goodnight Vienna"; "RINGO" is already available).
Does anybody have some inside information of Apple re-issues?

<<Mike>>




-- 
Mikko Suhonen
Vaasa, Finland
(a70901@uwasa.fi)

Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: u9263012@cc.uow.edu.au (Andrew John Walker)
Subject: Boot query
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 02:01:19 GMT

	I've just purchased a bootleg record entitled "Rarer than Rare".
I would like to know if anyone knows any details such as dates or take
numbers of any of the tracks.
	The funny thing about the versions of Stand by me and Slipin and
a Slidin are that I have these on a video!.The song I liked the most was one
entitled "Oh my love ", but the quality was not to good. Anyone have
the words?.

Thanks,
Andrew Walker

Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: hensley@ssd.comm.mot.com (Dave Hensley)
Subject: "New" Love Me Do 5" CD single
Organization: Motorola
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 12:37:49 GMT

This weekend I saw a "new" Love Me Do 5" CD single.

If memory serves me right, the disc says that it has
two versions of Love Me Do and one version of P.S. I Love You.
{I think.}

One configuration is a "slim" jewel box (it's not a picture disc),
and the other is the "paperboard" jewel box (I can't tell if it's
a picture disc.)

I seem to remember reading somewhere about this release,
but I've searched through my ICE magazines, Goldmine, etc.,
and I can't find any mention of it anywhere.

What's on the disc and what's its release supposed to commemorate?
(If I own all of the Beatles 5" CDs, why should I purchase this?)

David Hensley

This article represents only the opinion[s] of its author, and is not
an official or unofficial position of, or statement by, Motorola, Inc.
The text is provided for informational purposes only.
It is supplied without warranty of any kind.
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: brennan@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan)
Subject: Re: "Flying"
Reply-To: brennan@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 04:47:16 GMT

"Flying" and "Dig It!" are the two songs on regular record releases
that are officially written by all four Beatles, but there are two
other songs whose copyright registrations show all four as the
songwriters.

"Christmas time is here again" is copyright (1967 probably) as written
by L-M-H-S (Lewisohn, "The Beatles Chronicles", entry for 28 Nov
1967).  Used for the 1967 fan club Christmas record, no official
general release, although included in the proposed "Sessions" album.

"Suzy Parker" is copyright 1971 as written by L-M-H-S (L.R.E. King,
"Fixing a Hole", page 7).  Heard in the film "Let It Be" although not
included on any kind of audio release.

"12-Bar Original", the 1965 instrumental, was neither released nor
registered for copyright, so we do not know how it would have been
credited.

The Christmas records apparently have no other copyrights registered.
I would judge the 1966 and 1967 records at least to be written by all
four.  1963 and 1964 sound like someone else's scripts, and the
remainder aren't quite written at all!

--Joe Brennan

Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen)
Subject: Re: Couple of Questions
Organization: Little to none, or maybe not......
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 04:15:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.202413.17042@cs.tcd.ie> mcrosbie@unix1.tcd.ie (Mark J. Crosbie) writes:
>In <1992Oct13.093304.1447@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu> marulanda@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
>
>>Anyone know the story behind Dr Robert?
>
>Don't know about copyrights but Dr. Robert is a Lennon song about 
>a certain New York doctor Charles Roberts who - it was said - was in the
>habit of administering hallucinogenic drugs to friends from his 48th.
>Street practice. It was the Beatles' first direct musical reference to
>drugs. So John obviously found this pretty funny, so he wrote a song
>about it.
>

That is certainly part of the explanation, but there is at least one variant
on the story.  Quoting John from the _Playboy_ interviews:

"It was about *myself*.  I was the one that carried all the pills on tour and 
always [dispensed] them...In the early days, later the roadies did it."

Pete Shotton did use the standard explanation, and his memory is probably a
bit more reliable then Lennon's:

"With 'Doctor Robert', John paid sardonic tribute to an actual New York 
Doctor - his name was Charles Roberts, with an 's' - whose unorthodox
prescriptions had made him a great favorite of Andy Warhol's entourage, and,
indeed, of the Beatles themselves, whenever they passed through town.  When
John first played me the acetate of 'Doctor Robert', he seemed beside himself
with glee over the prospect of millions of record buyers innocently singing
along"

Finally, McCartney's comments seem appropriate to close out this round of
'what does it mean'":

"Well...he's like a joke...about this fellow who cured everyone of everything,
with all these pills and tranquilizers, injections for this and that: he just
kept New York high.  That's what 'Doctor Robert' is all about: just a pill
Doctor who sees you all right.  It was a joke between ourselves, but they go
in in-jokes, and come out out-jokes because everyone listens and puts their
their own thing on it, which is great...You put your own meaning at your own
level to our songs, and that's what's great abouty the."

If you're really interested in the man, look for the book _Edie: An American
Biography_ by Jean Stein.  Edie Sedgewick (The book's subject) was part of 
Warhol's "inner circle."  Although the Beatles are not mentioned specifically,
Stein does spend an entire chapter describing Dr. Charles Roberts, and his 
relationship with Warhol and friends.

'nuff said

<ESC>
-- 
..You either kiss the future or the past goodbye...
                          -- Ringo Starr (written by O'Deherty / Velez)
From: erobinette@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Happy birhtday Lennons! and 2 q's
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:37:02 GMT
Organization: Wright State University

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOHN AND SEAN--52 and 17 respectively!


Ok, now that the required part is taken care of, I have a couple of questions:

1. I heard that the "Lost Lennon Tapes" had ended and the show had 
changed its format to  deal more with the Beatles. True?

2. I also heard about a possible release of a box set of unreleased Lennon
material; it would be like a collection of the sorts of things played on "Lost
Lennon Tapes. Also true? If not, what is the next Lennon release, if any?

Eric Robinette
erobinette@desire.wright.edu
From: gifford@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Barbara Gifford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: GEORGE HARRISON AND TIME BANDITS
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:41:38 GMT
Reply-To: gifford@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Barbara Gifford)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


I may be posting in the wrong place for this question, but I have been
trying to locate the soundtrack to Time Bandits or the the song done
in the credits by George Harrison.  I am even having trouble finding
the video tape of the movie for sale.  Thanks for any help.

Barbara G.
From: pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Paul Michael Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Paul's Rick bass:  when did he use it?
Date: 14 Oct 92 05:34:26 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I know that Paul used a Rick bass during many of the Sgt. Pepper and Magical
Mystery Tour sessions.  Can anyone fill me in on the time period when he used
one?  I seem to remember reading somewhere that he used a 6 string Rick bass
on Sgt. Pepper (or at least the majority of it), but I have seen him in
pictures with a 4 string version.

The reason I am asking is because I find myself liking many of Paul's bass
contributions during this time period, and am curious if it is partly due to
him using his Rick.

Any insights?

-- 

+-| Paul Lewis |--| Jonestown: WLVR 91.3fm  Monday 11pm-1am |-+-------------+
|  'I'd love to turn you on.'                  -The Beatles   |             |
|  'You should be with us, feeling like we do  -Perry Farrell |     1       |
|   like you love to, but never will again.'                  |    2 3      |
|  'The struggle between God and man breaks    -Kazantzakis   |             |
|   out in everyone.'                                         | Renaissance |       |
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: swindley@elec.uq.oz.au (Robert Swindley)
Subject: HELP!!
Keywords: help
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:08:36 GMT


	I don't know if this is a FAQ (it probably would be)
  but what are the beatles spelling on the cover of HELP?
  I always just assumed it was H E L P but a friend said it wasn't
  and he had worked it out to be R U something something. Could
  please, please help me?

  P.S. Isn't the tom-toms in "Your Gonna Lose That Girl" absolutely
       shocking?!?

  Bob
From: bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Paul's Rick bass:  when did he use it?
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:27:41 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering

In article <1992Oct14.164209.4803@desire.wright.edu> erobinette@desire.wright.edu writes:
>
>Also, I think that the quality of his riffs was not due so much to the fact
>that he used a Rick. I think it had more to do with his unparalleled bass
>playing. However, I do think Paul's liking of the Rick prmpted him to bring
>the bass to the fore in the mixes--witness "Paperback Writer"/"Rain"
>


I've gotten the impression (without my reference sources here at work,
I can't look it up) that Paul's great bass parts were put "up front" in
Paperback Writer and Rain after they whined to George Martin about how
much bass there was in US records (stax & motown, I think) and why can't
they get that kind of bass.  EMI was very conservative, and there were
very specific rules for how much bass could be in a recording, because it
was possible to put in so much bass that the stylus would jump out of the
groove.  (Bass causes the groove to be wider, which is why the RIAA curve
was set up to reduce the amount of bass on the record, and pump it on again
on playback).  So if you imagine the tonearm swinging back and forth 
wildly with a monster bass part, you get what the EMI policy makers were
picturing.  As I recall the story, they made a test pressing with the
amount of bass they wanted, and it played ok, so they let it go.

My apologies in not having the facts in front of me to back up my story.
I'd hate to "pull a Quayle".... :-)

Bruce



-- 
Bruce Dumes			| "Bruce is too obsessed with the Beatles"   |
Stratus Computer, Inc.		|   --comment on report card from Spring '64 |
bad@sw.stratus.com              
508-460-2816                    
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: jcsmith@eos.ncsu.edu (Jay C. Smith)
Subject: Re: You know my name(look up the #)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:46:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.183153.23522@samba.oit.unc.edu> 
Siddharth.Soni@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Siddharth Soni) writes:
>We have our own theories as
>to what the song could possible mean.  I'd really like to hear yours.

I always thought it was a demonstration of the life cycle of a pop song.
"Heavy" version by rock group makes it big, then a lounge singer does the 
song, next it becomes such a cliche that a vaudeville-type comedian can sing 
it in a ridiculous manner for laughs, and finally (and perhaps years later 
when the song is somewhat obscure) a barely coherent jazz pianist can put his 
indelible stamp on it.  

Now, can anyone name the specific people the Beatles were imitating at each
stage?

--
Jay C. Smith
Domain/internet: jcsmith@eos.ncsu.edu
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Good.  For a minute I thought we were in trouble."
From: rberry@sheltie.chapel-hill.nc.us (Robert Berry)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: remakes or covers?
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 22:27:47 EDT
Organization: SkyNet

dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu (saki) writes:

>                         I like to give points to modern pop groups when
> they "quote" the Fabs in one of their own compositions

My favorite musical Beatles quotation was in a Don Dixon concert I went
to.  *If* you know who Don Dixon is, and *if* you know his song
"Southside Girl," try substituting the bridge from "Ticket to Ride" for
the song's own bridge.  Dixon did this in a Charlotte concert I went to,
and it fit so perfectly that I didn't even realize at first that
anything was different.

If you don't know Don Dixon, then I guess this doesn't make much
sense... although you might want to check him out. :-)


:: Robert Berry
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: johniac@johniac.austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti)
Subject: Re: The Bealtes on Disney
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 16:25:41 GMT
Distribution: na
Reply-To: johniac@austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti)
Organization: IBM Advanced Workstations and Systems, Austin, TX

In article <1992Oct8.122918.18683@utkux1.utk.edu>, lyle@utkvx2.utk.edu (Bradley S. Lyle) writes:
|> 
|> Just got the October/November issue of the Disney Channel magazine and there
|> are a whole bunch of goodies coming up that I thought I would pass along.

You missed "Rupert and the Frog Song".

-- 
John Iacoletti       IBM AWS Austin       Internet: johniac@austin.ibm.com
        My opinions do not reflect the views of the IBM Corporation
                "Fight the real enemy" -- Sinead O'Connor
From: connie@uga.edu (Connie M. Doss)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: BEATLES LIVE
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:13:11 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <7208@transfer.stratus.com> bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.203641.7796@rigel.econ.uga.edu> connie@uga.edu (Connie M. Doss) writes:
>>Butcher cover is mono.  Its first state, cover in very good shape except
>>for one bent corner.  I am not greedy just want to know the value of it.
>>
>>Connie Mobley
>>Statistics
>>University of Georgia
>
>Sorry to offend!  I wasn't talking about you!
>
>The "book value" in MINT condition is $2,000.  That is really TOP DOLLAR
>though, and only the very naive or the very rich pay that kind of money
>for one.  
>
>Again, sorry for the ambiguity of my comments.
>
>Bruce
>
>-- 
>Bruce Dumes			| "Bruce is too obsessed with the Beatles"   |
>Stratus Computer, Inc.		|   --comment on report card from Spring '64 |
>bad@sw.stratus.com              
>508-460-2816                    

Hi Bruce!  I know you weren't talking about me.  I didn't mean to imply
that.  Thanks for answering.  Do you like the Beach Boys?

Connie Mobley
Statistics
University of Georgia
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen)
Subject: Re: Any News on the release of those 'new' singles?
Organization: Little to none, or maybe not......
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 05:28:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.225846.7643@cs.aukuni.ac.nz> adem1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Adam Edward         Demeter        ) writes:

>The one about the kitten and a few more? It would be really good to here
>some previously unreleased stuff!

Now seems as good a time as any to quote the notable stuff from this month's
_Beatles Monthly_.  (News section by Andy Davis)

"Lost Beatles Tapes (NOT!) Found"

(ugh, Wayne's World attacks London)

The usually restrained "Sunday Times" newspaper got very excited on 13 
September, with a front page story that a hoard of previously lost Beatles
tapes had been discovered at the Abbey Road studios.

Among the priceless reels which had apparently been "languishing" in the vaults
since the 1960's, was "One of Ringo Starr's early attempts at singing - 'If
You've Got Trouble'", John's rendition of "Leave My Kitten Alone", and Beatle
reject numbers like "How Do You Do It?" and "Bad to Me".  According to the 
paper, the songs will appear next year, as part of a relaunch of the entire
Beatles back catalogue.

Don't believe a word of it!  In a time-honoured tradition, the story turned out
to be a complete load of rubbish.  Most fans will recognize these "lost" tapes
as EMI's ill-fated "Sessions" album, first mooted for release in the early
1980's.  Although they remain unissued, the tapes could hardly be described as
"lost", as each song is detailed down to it's last overdub in EMI's official
book "The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions!"

---------------------------------------------------

Other news bits of note:

The Beatles lawsuit against Sony continues over their re-issuing the Star
Club tapes.  Included is a quote from Paul where he calls the recordings
bootlegs.

Toshiba EMI has entered the re-packaging craze in Japan, and has issued
a 72-minute disc titled "The Best of the Beatles" with 26 tracks from every
era of the Beatles career as a group.

Excerpts from Mal Evans' home movies of the Beatles will be released on 
video by London's Vex films.  (No American release is mentioned)

Private Music is "strongly considering" releasing a video from the most
recent tour by Ringo and his All-Starr band.

The completed tapes for Paul's forthcoming album have finally been submitted
to EMI.  Macca is currently spending time at Abbey Road working on the final
sequence the tracks will appear on disc.

<ESC>
-- 
..You either kiss the future or the past goodbye...
                          -- Ringo Starr (written by O'Deherty / Velez)