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From: c60b-1hy@web-1c.berkeley.edu (Albert Wu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Petra/Metra
Date: 14 Dec 1992 19:58:42 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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I don't know anything about concerts in that area.

But I can tell you about their latest releases.  Unseen Power and Petrafonics
or Petraphonics.  Unseen Power is a sweet album.  Excellent guitars, beat,
production by the Elefante brothers, etc.  But don't expect it to be
similar than Beyond Belief.  As Bob Hartman said on the video, they wanted
to go beyond that.  (No pun intended)  Also John Lawry wrote a song on it
which is very nice.


Petraf(ph)onics is another collection album.  It does have one new song
on it.  I think it's called Radio Daze (hmm. pretty similar title to
Last Daze).

Albert Wu
UC Berkeley - EECS
c60b-1hy@web.berkeley.edu

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From: mwalls@nmsu.edu (Commander Keen)
Subject: Re: Whatever Happened to David Meece?
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:35:47 GMT

About a year ago he was still on the Learning to Trust tour.  He was
here in Las Cruces, NM.  (Excellent concert)

Craig
mwalls@NMSU.Edu
miwalls@NMSU.Edu
From: marshall1198@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Carmen is an artist.  Period.
Date: 12 Dec 92 11:13:37 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Dec6.134547.1@vax1.umkc.edu>, jpurcell@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
> Just to add to the argument over whether Carmen is an artist or an entertainor:
> 
> In Springfield, MO, he usually does a two-concert day FOR FREE!!!!!!!!!!!
> He had done this for several years, first come, first serve, and they always
> have to turn people away :(
> 
> 
> A christian performer who doesn't always charge admission?   I think the only
> difference between an entertainer and an artist is that an artist doesn't care
> about the money.
> 
> How much did you pay for your last Amy Grant Concert?
> Petra?
> Michael W. Smith?
> 
> these are some of my favorite singers/groups, but each time I paid over $15, 
> or somewhere in that region.  I always get the feeling from Carmen that he is
> here to win souls and not make a buck.
> 
> JP
> 

So it's how FREE a person's concert is that decides if they are an artist or
not!  I see...

Evan
From: marshall1198@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: CONTRADICTIONS ABOUT GOD
Date: 12 Dec 92 12:44:36 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Dec10.040931.723@inel.gov>, std2002@std2002@decit.if.uidaho.edu (Stephen Gamache) writes:
> In article <1992Dec8.170803.2710@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu write
> s:
> |>                           CONTRADICTIONS about God
> |>
> |>                Christians should all HONESTLY and thoroughly
> |>           investigate the CONTRADICTIONS between the Old and New
> |>           Testaments in terms of their descriptions of God.
> 
>   ===  Lots of sick perversions deleted here for the sake of saving space ===
> 
> |>                UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this
> |>           IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED.
> |>
> |>                                    Robert E. McElwaine
> |>                                    B.S., Physics and Astronomy, UW-EC
> 
> OK, boys and girls, see what happens when pick the wrong field of education.
> Robert seems awful proad of his degrees, and how it relates to his disection of
> the Bible.  If he spent more time studying the message to find salvation, maybe
> he wouldn't be so lost.  Now maybe we can get back to discussing Christian
> music and ignor his attempt to turn this into soc.religion.christian where it

Unfortunately, soc.religion.christian is MODERATED!

> belongs.
>
From: cwe34361@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (cE!)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: pray naked
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:58:09 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

tll6551@zeus.tamu.edu (Scholar and Fool) writes:

>>There's something about
>>the albumn in the latest True News...but my roommate cE! stole it. (He wanted
>>to look at the full page add on the back page for his albumn that is coming
>>out in January on Blonde Vinyl. BUY globalWAVEsystem if you like industrial
>>music (or even if you might like it).)

Just for your info, I did NOT steal Mike's copy of True News.  Our friend Ted
took it, told Mike about it, and Mike forgot about it.


>Oh, btw...........buy Global Wave System _Life Equals Death_
>Blonde Vinyl Records ----- 01/92

Wow, Terry!  Thanks for plugging our album.  (Actually, it's January of 1993,
but that's OK.)  I guess this board is just going to have to live with some
obnoxious behaviour from me for the next couple of months, becuase I need to
promote the globalWAVEsystem album.  Did we say it was called _life equals
death_, and would be coming out on Blonde Vinyl Records in January?  But hey.

Oh yeah...I don't really have anything to say about the 77's.  My friend Ted
likes them.


cE! / gWs
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From: rhm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Miller)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:58:58 GMT
Subject: Re: Salt & Light ministry
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian

In rec.music.christian, snorthc@relay.nswc.navy.mil (Stephen Northcutt - K31) writes:

> I am still buzzing with pleasure from seeing a musical play by salt n light
> past Sunday.  Featured, not limited to: Jeff and Debbie Smith out of
> Salt & Light
> 9306 Shiloh Drive
> Richmind VA 23237
> (804) 748-9893

Wow!!! Talk about a bolt from the blue!!! Jeff Smith was out here in CO two
years ago at the Christian Artist's seminar and blew me and a lot of others
away with his dramatic monologue of the Apostle John (he won the drama
competition with that sketch and performed it at the Friday concert). I
later got his name and address from Christian Artists in order to pursue
obtaining some of his material for local dramatic productions. This guy is 
well worth seeing...or booking in your local church if you can manage it...

Bob (the drama director's husband) Miller rhm@hpfirhm.fc.hp.com
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From: Phil.Powell@launchpad.unc.edu (Phil Powell)
Subject: Re: Veni Dominine (sp??) - Veni Domine
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:49:05 GMT

In article <92345.110802EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu> Young Indy <EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>In article <1992Dec10.043731.15676@samba.oit.unc.edu>,
>Phil.Powell@launchpad.unc.edu (Phil Powell) says:
>>
>>I'd get both if you can afford it... they're both in the same vein
>>(lyrically slightly world apaprt - WARNING: DT is NEW AGE DUDE!!!) so it's
>>up to you...
>
>   Do you really think so? When I think of new age I think of David Arkenstone,
>
> or Manheim Steamroller. I would categorize DT as symphonic/art/rock/heavy.
> Just what I can gather, 'cus I usually can't stand anything with the new age
> label attached, though I have been noted to like a few new age artists.
>
>                                     -Ed
>
>   ====================================================================
>               Edwin 'Big Ed' Weiland - EMW107@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
>              Architectural Engineering; Penn State University
>   "Oh, His children smile because they know He loves them." -King's X
>   ====================================================================


No, no.. the music is not new age, the lyrics are new age!!!

Phil

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From: uscream@mcl.ucsb.edu (Screamin' Diane d.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Tonio K. (was Re: Favorite music in 1992 - an objective measure)
Date: 15 Dec 92 06:45:21 GMT



Andy Whitman:

What is offensive about Tonio K. Notes from the Lost Civ.  I really like
that album.  But then again, I could swear that I hear Romeo Loves Jane
on KROQ (A way secular once alternative station.)  I always thought that
Tonio K. was really good at dealing with the realities and confusions of
life, finding love and losing love.  Love is a major theme.  The
Executioners Song is an almost funny account of satan on the rampage.
I mean the lyrics talk about the monster stepping out of the garden,
straightening his tie, grabbing a hat (he wore hats) and singing
I'm gonna ruin this place... He took a joI'm gonna ruin this place, I'm gonna ruin these people.  He took a job in the city and sold TVs, cd,etc.
He sold images and information, he sold arms and ammunition.  Every
body loved him.  The people were dying for love...
So, he was produced by T-Bone Burnett who caused the fall of Leslie
Phillips (from what I hear), and it claims alot of sadness, etc.
Why is that offensive??  It's got alot of truth.

Anyway...The earth is hard, the treasure fine--Adam Again

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From: conditt@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Paul Conditt)
Subject: Need music recommendations
Organization: Applied Research Laboratories, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:19:11 GMT


Hello and happy holidays.  I need some recommendations on music to give
to a good friend of mine.  She is not a Christian, but is experiencing a
spiritual rebirth.  I'd like to help her on her journey by exposing her
to some good quality Christian music.  Her favorite style of music is
what I would call dance music.  I have no idea how to classify it better
than that because I simply can't stand the stuff.  However, she loves it,
so I'd like to buy her a good tape that has a strong, powerful message to
it that is also very good musically.  Now I know that someone out there
in r.m.c-land can help me out with this.  Please don't flame me for 
saying that I can't stand the stuff because I'm not accusing anyone of
being an artist or not being an artist or anything like that.  It's just
a personal taste thing :).

Also, I'd very much appreciate your prayers in this situation.  My friend's
name is Sherry.  She's a 26 y.o. white heterosexual female with AIDS (I
included this because this group is supposed to be relatively immune to
the disease, but it's not).  I won't go into the whole history of how she
got it, but it is a very sad story, as all stories about terminal illnesses
are.  She and I talk a lot about God, so I'd like for y'all to pray for
the Holy Spirit to speak through me on such occassions.  Also, please be
praying for her health.  She's doing remarkably well and has lived about
6 months longer than she should have already.  

Thanks in advance for your suggestions and your prayers.

Grace and peace,

Paul

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From: rhm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Miller)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:47:52 GMT
Subject: Re: artists?   original or unoriginal?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian

In rec.music.christian, jcorbin@rsal.gatech.edu (Jeff R. Corbin) writes:

> 
> in the debate of carman (or anyone for that matter) being an artist or
> not, here's my 2 cents.
> 
> i've seen on r.m.c that an artist is one that does original
> material...

Well, I've stayed outta this until now, but today I feel, well, "chatty", 
so.....

What is an artist? What is art? Its a muddy topic that usually pits one
person's *taste* against another. you know...I can't *stand* Carman, therefore
he must not be an artist.

Every year I go to the Christian *Artists* wing-ding in Estes Park, and I 
listen to a lot of people called "artists" who have never written one note or 
word of the stuff they are performing. And a lot of stuff goes on to help
"artists develop their craft" that never get up on the stage. So what is this
"artist" thing, anyway??

May I humbly (or maybe that should be "arrogantly" ;-) offer my current 
working definition:

  An artist is an individual who employs the creative media to communicate a
  message not only to the intellect, but to the *heart*; someone who makes me
  not only "understand" truth, but to viscerally "feel" it. Or perhaps "know"
  it in the Hebrew sense.

Now there are artists which are good at it, and artists who aren't; artists 
who do art deliberately and artists who make art in spite of themselves;
artists who do it for the dough, artists who do it for the sake of the
message, and artists who do it for the sheer *joy* of it. 

And when Cynthia sings a song that she didn't write but she's using every 
nuance of her voice and her sense of dramatic presence (did she get that
from her husband Ragan, I wonder) to shine the truth therin right *through*
me, well, if that isn't art, I'm a brook trout.

Bob (I can't *stand* Carman either, but you can call it art) Miller
rhm@hpfirhm.fc.hp.com 
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Subject: Tax DEDUCTIONS for 1992 MIDI Donations
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 08:49:12 -0600
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        I am co-chairman of the "PTF Education Committee" (PTF is
Parent-Teacher-Fellowship) for a private, non-profit, Christian elementary/
middle school in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. We have two known-to-be-working Apples
and one IBM PC. We also have an Apple that I have not looked at yet. The
school's name is Isaac Newton Christian Academy. Money is tight, and
the roof needs repair, so usually fund raising tends to be directed towards
things other than computers. :-(

        We are, right now, working on establishing a "Computer Lab", which
will include at least 1 of the systems set up for MIDI applications, and have
been talking about soliciting donations.

	We ask that if you have ANY Apple II or MS-DOS MIDI/Audio items, that
you would SERIOUSLY consider donating these to our school. Even if it is an 
item that needs repair, we'd be happy to accept it IF we know the repair costs
involved before it is shipped to us. We currently have one Yamaha (forget the
model) basic full-size, 61 key, 4-voice piano that has MIDI in/out/thru.

	Even though we will appreciate any donation, here are some specific
	things we are looking for at this time:

		o  MIDI Capable Full-Size Keyboards
		o  MIDI cards
		o  Music Education software such as Ear training, music
		    reading, music theory, keyboard skills, etc.
		o  Sequencing software
		o  Sound modules or cards (perhaps someone is sick of
		    their MT-32?)
		o  Amplifier/Speakers for Audio monitoring
		o  Programmable Drum machines with built-in sounds

	REMEMBER... this is a BONA FIDE non-profit organization!

Thank you for your consideration and support,

Bruce Rothwell

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From: rmbenn@david.wheaton.edu (Richard M. Bennema)
Subject: Re: Mastedon: It's a Jungle Out There (CD)
Organization: Wheaton College, IL
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:16:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.044912.23370@wheaton.wheaton.edu> bob@david.wheaton.edu (Bob) writes:
>or you could just give True Tunes Etc a call...
>
>these guys are way cool too!  they have just about anything you could want on
>stock or quickly orderable...[usually on stock] 
>
>True Tunes, Etc.   
>210 West Front Street   
>Wheaton, IL 60187
>TEL: 1-800-669-TRUE
>--
>bob@david.wheaton.edu

They (and probably other stores) just got it in.  I bought it for my sister for
Christmas.  I think the CD has been re-released because I couldn't find it
anywhere for a long time, but suddenly I found it where new releases usually
are.

				Richard M. Bennema


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From: mcostell@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Malcolm G. Costello)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Needing HELP in Washington DC!!
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:38:49 GMT
Reply-To: mcostell@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Malcolm G. Costello)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.music.christian, Phil.Powell@launchpad.unc.edu (Phil Powell) writes:
xIn article <4785@moscom.com> acb@moscom.com (Amy Bourquin) writes:
x>
x> I will be moving to  Washington D.C. on December 21 and would appreciate
x> any information that would help me make some Christian connections.
x>
x> What are some good churches?
x
xI know mine is cool! Covenant Life Church in Rockville MD off Muncaster
xMill Road (meets at Magruder High School until we get our building up
x[yay!] in August)
x
I've also heard good things about CLC. But let me also put in a plug
for Church of the Redeemer in Gaithersburg, MD.
(just up the road from Rockville :) Phone (301) 926-0967.

x>>
x>> What are the Christian radio stations?
x>>
x>WABS AM 780, WAVA FM 105.1, and WDCT AM 1310 are 3 that come to mind.. oh,
x>and my radio show too! :-) "Full Metal Worship" on 94.5 FM WCXS

Don't forget WCTN am 950 in Potomac, MD.
x>
x>> Where can one buy Christian music?
x>>
x>
x>Shepherd's Place Bookstore in Laurel is cool, also The Ark and Dove in
x>Alexandria and The Olive Branch in Rockville MD.. oh, Laurel is in MD,
x>Alexandria in VA.. and there are Family Bookstores in almost every mall in
x>the DC area.

NOTE: If you start listening to the above radio stations, you'll hear
some of the local pastors so you can judge for yourself.
If you're going to be in Chantilly, VA area, Pastor Dan Doas (sp)
comes to mind. He's on WCTN AM 950 just before 8:00 am M-F. He's at
Shepherd Gate Church.

Also, when you go to a Christian Bookstore, be sure to pick up a free
copy of "The Shepherd's Guide". Its like a Christian yellow pages and
lists Christian businesses as well as radio stations, churches etc.

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From: anderson@cs.rose-hulman.edu. (Claude W. Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Need music recommendations
Date: 17 Dec 1992 00:11:29 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: anderson@cs.rose-hulman.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: mercutio.cs.rose-hulman.edu

Paul Conditt writes
> 
> Hello and happy holidays.  I need some recommendations on music to give
> to a good friend of mine.  She is not a Christian, but is experiencing a
> spiritual rebirth.  I'd like to help her on her journey by exposing her
> to some good quality Christian music.  Her favorite style of music is
> what I would call dance music.  

I am quite Fond of Discipline of the Groove" by Recess (Reunion Records).
Not very serious musically, but a lot of fun and interesting (not subtle)  
lyrics.

First words that you hear:

Groove -- that's the easy part.
Discipline -- That's the hard part.

> Grace and peace,
> 
> Paul
> 
> 

And I will pray for your friend with AIDS.
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Subject: REQUEST: Lyrics to Shout
From: kevink@netlink.cts.com (Kevin Kornburger)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 01:49:55 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

Hi,

Would anyone be able to send me the lyrics to "It Won't Be Long" by 
Shout?

Thank you in advance!
-Kevin K.
8^)

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From: npstewar@eos.ncsu.edu (NATHAN PHILLIP STEWART)
Subject: Hymn Fake book. I found it! (And more)
Originator: npstewar@c00723-239rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: npstewar@eos.ncsu.edu (NATHAN PHILLIP STEWART)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:27:08 GMT


For any praise band guitar musicians out there who may be interested:

The Baptist Hymnal is available in arrangements for all orchestral instruments,
plus a conductors score, PLUS a guitar edition.  The guitar addition is really
a fake book...Melody line and chord chart.  It is spiral bound (Boo! Hiss!), but
there is enough room in the margin to run it through a 3 hole punch.  I didn't
see an index in it though, so if your church doesn't use the baptist hymnal,
have fun unless you buy one of the regular hymnbooks that does have the index.

The only thing is that if you can't transpose for one reason or the other (like
there's already an orchestra playing in Eb, you really don't want to play in E
if you can help it.) you may have to retune or barre everything.

The other instruments have already been transposed into their natual habitats,
so horn players don't have to read in C, etc. There are also bass, piano, and
organ versions.

npstewar@eos.ncsu.edu
Nathan Stewart

Let everything that has breath - Praise the LORD!
Ps. If the Israelites made the ground shake at Solomon's coronation, and
they didn't have amplified instruments (Heh Heh), shouldn't we have a little
exuberance when praising our GOD?
From: jpurcell@vax1.umkc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Hey Guys, Stop Re: Contradictions...
Date: 17 Dec 92 02:25:35 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
NNTP-Posting-Host: vax1.umkc.edu

Don't further polute this newsgroup with replys to that doofus.  
He is not worth the time it took the computer to post his trash on the net, 
and don't take up any more time.  

Besides, he probably doesn't read this newsgroup.  


JP
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