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From: M00209@MBVM.Mitre.Org
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: B&O, BR&P, B&S, WA&G (was Re: Railway Lantern)
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:59:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: MBVM.167C4D2D8.M00209
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA 01730

In article <1992Apr8.151747.24236@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
jmarshal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John L Marshall) writes, in part:
 
>
>On another (somewhat) related issue, what is the background of the P&W
>(Pittsburgh & Western?) Subdivision of CSX that runs from Pittsburgh to New
>Castle, PA?
 
It is part of the former B&O main line (officially).  All passenger trains and
Len Bachelder        Archives Committee, Boston and Maine RR Historical Society
MITRE Corp.           Secretary, Massachusetts Bay Railroad Enthusiasts
Bedford MA 01730      Member, 470 Railroad Club
<M00209@mbvm.mitre.org>
 
"Amazing love, how can it be that Thou, my God, should'st die for me!"
                                                 - Charles Wesley
most through freight, in modern times, used the P&LE between McKeesport and
New Castle Junction - except of course the B&O, later PATrain, commuter jobs
between Pgh and McKeesport/Versailles.  That's all I know about the line,
perhaps a local historian could enlighten us more.
 
Len Bachelder        Archives Committee, Boston and Maine RR Historical Society
MITRE Corp.           Secretary, Massachusetts Bay Railroad Enthusiasts
Bedford MA 01730      Member, 470 Railroad Club
<M00209@mbvm.mitre.org>
 
"Amazing love, how can it be that Thou, my God, should'st die for me!"
                                                 - Charles Wesley
From: eddie@railnet.nshore.ORG (Eddie Van Huffel)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: business car placemen
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 22:31:35 EDT
Organization: Railnet BBS (phone # changing April 1992)

Steve_Hooper@mindlink.bc.ca (Steve Hooper) writes:

> > steve waller writes:
> > 
> > 
> > That's an interesting comment cause I usually see the business cars
> > on the head-end here.  Generally travelling between Toronto and Montreal.
> > Although I must admit it has been awhile since I noticed one....steve
> > 
> > (PS thats on CP here)
> 
> 
> That is kind of unusual...I would have thought that a big outfit like CP woul
> have a "standard practice" for the cars.
> 
> Hell, the way I look at it, the further back in the train they are, the less
> chance they can bother us on the head-end :)
> 
> 
> --
> 
>  steve_hooper@mindlink.bc.ca   []  Riding the "High Iron" of
>  OR      a777@mindlink.bc.ca   []         CP Rail
>  The Great White North in      []
>  Vancouver, BC CANADA          [] Opinions are mine, NOT CP's


I'd sure hate to be in a Business Car sandwiched between a lashup of 
locomotives, and anywhere between 4000 and 10,000 tons of freight behind me. 
 I would prefer to be on the rear end of any freight train.

--
eddie@railnet.nshore.ORG (Eddie Van Huffel)
Railnet BBS (phone # changing April 1992)
From: hudson@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Hudson Leighton)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: High Speed Rail
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:05:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: orbit.7488
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

For what its worth

Ninth International Convention on High Speed Rail
Pittsburgh Vista Hotel & David L. Lawrence Convention Center
May 17-20, 1992

High Speed Rail Association 
P.O. Box 11067
Pittsburgh, PA 15237



I got on their mailing list somehow and they just keep sending me stuff


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From: btarbox@sw.stratus.com (Brian Tarbox)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Diesel-Electric vs. Diesel-hydraulic
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:14:43 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

Can someone explain what a diesel-hydraulic is and
how it works?  Thanks.
From: wbrill@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Warren Brill)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:33:21 GMT
Subject: Re: Old line questions
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.railroad

Around here, in Northern Colorado, there is a railroad that SPECIALIZES in
storing old boxcars, the Great Western RY.  This line was built by/for the
now bankrupt (since 1984) Great Western Sugar Company.  The railroad still
runs, doing bridge traffic between various BN/UP territory, but a LOT of 
the tracks are covered with long (like in the miles!) strings of boxcars.
Let's hope somebody starts using these things someday; they must REALLY get
in the way of (other) revenue operations.

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o                                      ____i----i_________________     o
o    Warren T. Brill, a.k.a.         =|____|[][]|  #### #### #### |=   o
o    wbrill@hpxxx.fc.hp.com         i_|___/|____|\________________|_i  o
o    brill@handel.cs.colostate.edu  =++ ()=()=() ======= ()=()=() ++=  o
o                                  =================================== o
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
 
BTW, I changed my .sig just a little to reflect the number of SD-40-2s I
see on BN Intermodals out of Denver...even saw a short (<20 car) IM a few
weeks ago pulled by ONE SD-40-2 going north.
From: rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: BALTIMORE LIGHT RAIL!!!
Keywords: MTA, Oriole Park at Camden Yards, Metro, Light Rail, MARC, Park & Ride
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:50:49 GMT
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: spcsun25.bbn.com

In article <1992Apr4.064157.14092@wam.umd.edu>, gurd@next06csc.wam.umd.edu (Daffy Duck) writes:

|> 2.  The line is largely single track, and that limits frequency to 15  
|> minutes, and since there is street running involved only 2 car trains can
|> be used.

Why can't 4 or 6 car trains be used in street running?

-- 
Ron Newman		rnewman@bbn.com
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: sra@bistromath.mitre.org (Stan R. Ames)
Subject: Re: Railway Lantern
Keywords: lantern
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 12:25:54 GMT

In article <2232@news.duke.edu> James_Madill@cellbio.duke.edu writes:
>A friend of mine in the Eno Valley Railroad club has a lantern that he doesn't
>know the origin of.  The inscription reads:
>
>         B. R. & P. Ry
>
>Does anyone know what railway this was?
>

Gee a question I can actually answer.  As the SIG Coordinator of the
BR&P/B&S Special Interest Group I can unequivocally state that the
road in question was the Buffalo Rochester and Pittsburgh Railway.
(3 guesses where it ran)  It was bought by the B&O in 1931 so the 
lantern predates that.

All kidding aside that lantern could be worth somewhere between $50 and $500
depending on the type and condition.  If your friend wants to sell it 
or trade it for several other lanterns let me know.

Stan Ames
"Safety and Service"
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: It's hard to love a GE
From: eddie@railnet.nshore.ORG (Eddie Van Huffel)
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 01:06:13 EDT
Organization: Railnet BBS +1 216 883 6298

elw4@po.CWRU.Edu (Evan L. Werkema) writes:

> 
> In a previous article, 31ochs@gw.wmich.edu () says:
> 
> >As far as I know, SOO doesn't own a single GE engine(YAY!!!!!!!)
> >I don't much like GE's except for the new DASH 8's with wide-noses.....
> 
>    This seems to be something I've noticed quite a bit among railfans and
> railroaders alike.  Rarely have I met one that sang the praises of a GE.
> I met one engineer on the Santa Fe who absolutely hated them...said they were


One last and loving memory was running a 100 car ore drag from Randall to 
Youngstown.  We were pulling 10,000 tons, and I stepped on the engine.  The 
engineer, who was a friend of mine gave me the throttle, "Just to keep in 
shape" and to try out the new 2500 series GE units on the train.  The units 
were only 2, but they replaced 4 RS-3's which were regularly used to pull 
the same types of consists.  The train had been doubled, and I pulled the 
unit to Run 1.  The units started up with no wheel slippage, (aa small grade 
which increased to Hiram, Ohio then downhill to Youngstown)  After passing 2 
telephone poles, I notched up to Run 2.  I could feel the power, as the 
train began to increase in speed.  On Run3, we were able to move up to 40 
MPH, which was the maximum speed for this train.  There appeared to be no 
effort with this consist, and I ran with no problem to Garrettsville.  From 
Garrettsville, it was downhill, and the only work I had to do, was to work 
the dynamic brake to keep the train at speed.  When we arrived in Niles, I 
drew 10 pounds of air, and by the time we were about 3 miles from Briar 
Hill, we were down to 5 MPH.  I let her ease into her track, which was 
already lined, and brought her to a gentle stop at the end of the siding.  
The engineer praised me, but I was impressed that I had pulled a train of 
this size, and it had behaved like a small passenger train, or a switch 
engine with 20 cars.  I'll run GE anytime.
Oh yes, 2 weeks later, I met my wife, quit the railroad, and got a job in 
engineering.

--
eddie@railnet.nshore.ORG (Eddie Van Huffel)
Railnet BBS +1 216 883 6298
From: eddie@railnet.nshore.ORG (Eddie Van Huffel)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Car Attacks SP Train
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 10:42:57 EDT
Distribution: na
Organization: Railnet BBS +1 216 883 6298

johnm@hpmcaa.mcm.hp.com (John Mosbarger) writes:

> 
>      Last Wednesday (4/1), a car drove around the crossing gates in Canby,
> OR, and struck the 33rd car of a westbound (south) train.  The car wedged
> under a tank car loaded with methyl alcohol and was dragged 5 miles before
> an eastbound train radioed the engineer.  The driver is in critical condi-
> tion with massive head and chest injuries.  the train was travelling about
> 40 mph.
> 
>      Was this driver:
> 
> 1)  On drugs?
> 
> 2)  Stupid?
> 
> 3)  Drunk?
> 
> 4)  Brain dead?
> 
> 5)  thinking this train was a rare mileage excursion?
> 
> 6)  playing an April Fool's joke on SP?
> 
> 7)  an excessed Hewlett-Packard employee?
> 
> 8)  a Usenet Administrator?
> 
> Go figure!
> 
> --
> John Mosbarger
> HP McMinnville, OR
> johnm@hpmcaa.mcm.hp.com



No, he was a student at Antioch College in Yellow Springs Ohio, trying to 
hop a freight train for a free ride.


--
eddie@railnet.nshore.ORG (Eddie Van Huffel)
Railnet BBS +1 216 883 6298
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: pierson@cimcad.enet.dec.com (Dave Pierson)
Subject: Re: Washington DC question
Keywords: History, Electification, USA, PRR
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 16 APR 92 07:47:41    

>In article <12190@ns-mx.uiowa.edu>, jones@pyrite.cs.uiowa.edu (Douglas W.
>Jones,201H MLH,3193350740,3193382879) writes, in part:

>|> The Metro line I was on parallels a number of railroad tracks for a
>|> good part of the distance it travels.  

>|> The yard contained a number of grey painted I-beams that pointed up and
>|> sometimes angled over.  They looked like they could become or could have
>|> been catenary supports.

	They were.  PRR used to run the elctrification thru to "Pot Yard",
	since some time on the '30s.  The link to the NEC was thru the tunnel
	under the US Capitol.  It was wired thru that, across the south side of
	DC & across the Potomac.  If looking the other way from the Metro, one
	can see the bridge & teh remains of the Catenary supports there.
	Electric passenger service terminated at Union Station, Electric freight
	at Pot Yard.

thanks
dave pierson			|the facts, as accurately as i can manage,
Digital Equipment Corporation	|the opinions, my own.
200 Forest St			|I am the NRA.
Marlboro, Mass		01752	pierson@cimnet.enet.dec.com
"He has read everything, and, to his credit, written nothing."  A J Raffles
From: rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: VRE rolls out test train
Date: 16 Apr 1992 16:54:58 GMT
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: spcsun25.bbn.com

In article <12588@umd5.umd.edu>, gurd@next04wor.wam.umd.edu (Daffy Duck) writes:

|>    Industry analyst on board yesterday were eager to discuss what is said  
|> is only the second cummuter rail system to start up in the United States  
|> in almost 50 years.

I have my doubts about this.  Any idea what the other one is 
supposed to be?

And isn't at least some of Virginia Rail Express the revivial of old,
discontinued services from long ago?

-- 
Ron Newman		rnewman@bbn.com
From: v106qhlw@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Poster Child Against Meal Plan)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: NYC entusiasts.
Keywords: subways, new york city
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:33:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Being from NYC, i was wondering if anyone  out there was a NYC buff or a
NYC railbuff --- go to school here and buffalo and miss the discourse about
that sort of stuff.  Anyone know any newsgroups for this specifically?

thanks, mark
v106qhlw@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
From: rtp@53iss6.Waterloo.NCR.COM (Richard T. Pierce)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Playing Chicken!!!
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:34:19 GMT
Organization: NCR Canada Ltd, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada.


Yesterday, near Brantford, Ontario, there was a VIA train car accident. Four
people were killed. According to the news, the people driving the car were
playing chicken with the train. At one point, they by-passed the crossing
gates to try and beat the train and were struck. All four people in the car
were killed. There were no injuries to the the crew or passengers of the
train. The VIA train was using a GO train engine for this run.

When will people learn that playing chicken in a 2500 pound car against
a several hundred thousand pound engine is always a losing proposition for
the car...

There seems to be an increase of train/car accidents of late. Some accidents
happen at intersections which do not have railroad signals or crossing guards,
but many accidents seem to be happening where saftey features are in place.

Maybe at all intersections, there should be bridges for the cars to go over
the tracks, but maybe this would only cause people to drive through ditches
and trees to try and beat the train.
--
Richard T. Pierce; NCR Canada, Ltd.; Waterloo, Ontario; Canada N2J 4G5
                                   All comments are mine and mine only..
Richard.Pierce@53iss6.Waterloo.NCR.COM
From: JDB6@psuvm.psu.edu (John D. Balogh)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Hobos on Prime Time Live
Date: 10 Apr 92 03:15:53 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

In article <92100.231107JDB6@psuvm.psu.edu>, I say:                            >
>
>I just saw a segment of ABC-TV's Prime Time Live show that covered
>some Hobos and their travels. It aired from 10:30 - 10:45 ES
>B
(and I meant to continue, but caused a glitch on my input device...)
(EDT, not EST as I started to type also)
Some nice videos of Southern Pacific frieght drags, (from inside and
outside various box and other cars) and some reasonable "home" films
from post-WWII era.

They talked to a "Bull" from another railroad and pointed out the
lethal hazards of this occupation.
From: dhf@marie.mitre.org (David H. Friedman)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Washington DC question
Keywords: History, Electification, USA, PRR
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:43:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: linus.1992Apr16.204328.3650
Organization: Research Computer Facility, MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA

In article <1992Apr16.113007.11528@e2big.mko.dec.com> pierson@cimcad.enet.dec.com (Dave Pierson) writes:
>>In article <12190@ns-mx.uiowa.edu>, jones@pyrite.cs.uiowa.edu (Douglas W.
>>Jones,201H MLH,3193350740,3193382879) writes, in part:
>>|> The yard contained a number of grey painted I-beams that pointed up and
>>|> sometimes angled over.  They looked like they could become or could have
>>|> been catenary supports.
>	They were.  PRR used to run the elctrification thru to "Pot Yard",
>	since some time on the '30s.  The link to the NEC was thru the tunnel
>	under the US Capitol.  It was wired thru that, across the south side of
>	DC & across the Potomac.
There was no wire in the tunnel, due to clearance restrictions. Passenger
traffic south from Union Station was all diesel anyway. The electrified
freight route from the NEC to Pot Yard was via the Anacostia Cutoff, which
branches off the main on the northern outskirts of DC.
From: Steve_Hooper@mindlink.bc.ca (Steve Hooper)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Electromagnetic Fields (was RE: Playing Chicken)
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:04:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: mindlink.11442
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

> Andrew Waugh writes:
> 
> 
> There was an amusing article in the 'New Scientist' one or two weeks ago.
> Reading between the lines of the article it appears that a central London
> railway was recently relayed with continuous welded rail and the existing
> AC track circuits were replaced with jointless audio frequency track
> circuits.
> 
> Unfortunately, some of the arches underneath the railway had been let out
> for practice and recording studios. The sensitive guitar pickups, not to
> mention the long leads, easily picked up the EMF being generated by the
> track circuits and made the studios unusuable. BR and the studios are now
> fighting about compensation.


Another amusing railway story...

For years, Kimberley B.C. has been the site of a large lead/zinc mine owned by
Cominco.  CP has been hauling ore from there to the smelter in Trail for years.

Anyway, the flotaion process (whatever that is :)  ) created a by-product.
Perfect, 100% ballast.  Thus the CPR has been hauling ballast out of there and
spreading it far and wide.  Very economical stuff.

BUT, recently a number of signal malfunctions were attributed to the ballast.
It seems that the high content of lead and zinc in the ballast was actually
high enough to short the rail circuits and trigger signal systems!

Needless to say, they have not hauled ballast out of there for a few years now.


--

 steve_hooper@mindlink.bc.ca   []  Riding the "High Iron" of
 OR      a777@mindlink.bc.ca   []         CP Rail
 The Great White North in      []
 Vancouver, BC CANADA          [] Opinions are mine, NOT CP's
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: K.Buck@ma30.bull.com (Ken Buck)
Subject: Re: Playing Chicken!!! (NOT)
Reply-To: K.Buck@ma30.bull.com
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 13:33:33 GMT
Originator: buck@granite.ma30.bull.com

In article <1992Apr13.194836.4861@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> clb@cbnewsd.cb.att.com
   (carl.l.blesch) writes:
>I've heard two theories about why car-drivers inadvertantly or
>not-so-inadvertantly tangle with trains. One is that since passenger
>trains are not part of the mainstream culture anymore, the public
>in general doesn't have an appreciation for railroads or an internalized
>concept of the power, mass, momentum, (pick whatever the appropriate
>physics 101 term is) that trains have - both in terms of stopping
>distance and crushing potential.

this is probably a contributing factor, but i think non-railroad-minded
people have always been pretty unaware of these kinds of things.

i think it's more significant that there are ever-increasing numbers of
people driving cars, and society as a whole seems to have become less
patient with delays.


>Secondly, there is no legal connotation
>to the flashing grade-crossing lights (I'm sure the lawbooks say it's
>illegal to go around a flashing signal, but people don't think of that).
>If it were a standard traffic signal, maybe people would think twice,
>having the gut feeling that they could be ticketed for going around it.

Conrail used to have a regular traffic light at a grade-crossing on the
ex-B&A mainline in Russell, Massachusetts.  I always thought this was a
good idea.  It seemed to work pretty well, but they replaced it a few years
ago with traditional crossing flashers (i forget, but i don't think they
added gates).
From: gurd@next04wor.wam.umd.edu (Daffy Duck)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: VRE rolls out test train
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:25:34 GMT
Reply-To: gurd@wam.umd.edu

Ron Newman writes
> In article <12588@umd5.umd.edu>, gurd@next04wor.wam.umd.edu (Daffy Duck)  
writes:
> 
> |>    Industry analyst on board yesterday were eager to discuss what is  
said  
> |> is only the second cummuter rail system to start up in the United  
States  
> |> in almost 50 years.
> 
> I have my doubts about this.  Any idea what the other one is 
> supposed to be?

Yes I do!  It's Tri-Rail operating on ex. Seaboard Air Line Trackage  
between Miami and Ft. Lauderdale a distance of 67 miles.  The trackage is  
now owned by the state, and the project was initially started to be  
temporary as I-95 was undergoing a massive reconstruction project in 1988  
when service started up.  The service is operated by UTDC with UTDC cars  
identical to those in service with GO-Transit (if the service failed the  
plan was to sell the cars to Ontario), and kitbashed locomotives from M-K.
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: betsyp@apollo.hp.com (Betsy Perry)
Subject: Re: Montrealer Notice
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:36:24 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.045616.24605@wam.umd.edu> gurd@wam.umd.edu writes:
>
>I posted this earlier.  The Montrealer WILL NOT be axed.  The train is  
>losing checked bagage service (except during the ski-season), a sleeper  
>off each train, and the dining car gets axed and will be replaced by a  
>Amcafe, or Amdinette.

Piddle.  I have many happy memories of the Montrealer's dining
car, especially the Congressional Special (?), which was Navy
Bean Soup, half a mini-Gouda, a hard roll, and an apple.  I used
to take the Montrealer to DC, then connect after a four-hour layover
to the Cardinal to Richmond, IN.  The Cardinal hasn't stopped in
Richmond in years, and now the Montrealer will have the same awful
microwaved sandwiches as other Amcafes.  O tempora, o mores.

Does anybody have some thoughts about why the absolutely grungiest
parts of Union Station are the parts that serve actual train passengers?
It really irritates me that they spent all that money on renovating
everything *except* the areas where you get on, get off, and wait
for the train.  
-- 
Betsy Hanes Perry   (note P in userid)     betsyp@apollo.hp.com
Cooperative Object Computing Division,     Hewlett-Packard, Inc.
We're readers, readers, readers of the Open Range...
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: eden@4ccvw70.scg.hac.com (Jerry Eden)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: SP/SF merger paint scheme spotted
Keywords: Kodachrome, Santa Fe
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:41:06 GMT
Reply-To: eden@4ccvw70.UUCP (Jerry Eden)
Distribution: na
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Co., El Segundo, CA

In article <jwj2.9@po.cwru.edu> jwj2@po.cwru.edu (Jerry W. Jordak) writes:
>>the old stuff was gone by now. So who knows how many units of which types
>>still wear that uniform? Where do they live? Feeble minds wanna know.
>
>There are a couple in Conrail's Collinwood Yard in Cleveland, OH. They are
>part of a batch of 60 GE's that CR is rebuilding. I remember there were 2 or
>3 Kodachrome units there. The work is supposed to take about a year, so they
>will be there a while.


You should check out the SP and SF yards in San Bernardino there are at leasta half a dozen or more in those yards. They do look like they are ready for a new paint job. I do not think that they were too enthused about keeping up the paint scheme.
 

JerDog-Turkeymeister


Organization: Freshman, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 08:51:35 -0400 
From: Derrick James Brashear <db74+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: MARC in Philadelphia?

Well, Amtrak SEPTA, and MARC pool their AEM-7's, so perhaps you just saw
a SEPTA train running with a MARC AEM-7 on point. What did the cars look
like? SEPTA, MARC, Amtrak? Something else?

-D
Derrick Brashear        <db74@andrew.cmu.edu>
Box 836   5115 Margaret Morrison St
Pittsburgh PA 15213   (412) 268-4113

Between the motion and the act,
between the idea and the reality,
lies the shadow- T. S. Eliot