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From: hilbig_t@qis.dofasco.ca
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Re: FOIRL transcievers with BNC connector
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:19:22 GMT
Organization: Dofasco Inc, Hamilton, Ont. Can.
Nntp-Posting-User: hilbig_t

In article <1992Apr14.190203.11248@news.unomaha.edu>, SLENDT@athena.unomaha.edu (STEVE LENDT - C&DC NETWORK ) writes:
> In <paul.164@ace.acadiau.ca> paul@ace.acadiau.ca writes:
> 
>> We are looking for someone that make FOIRL tranceivers that have a thinnet
>> BNC connector rather than an AUI connector.  The AUI type transceiver works
>> fine in locations where we only have one 10BaseT hub, but on some places, 
>> especially labs, we often have 4 or more 10BaseT hubs connected together by 
>> thinnet, and in these situations we need an FOIRL transceiver with a BNC end.
>> So far we haven't found anyone who makes such a beast.  The alternative is 
>> to put a BNC repeater box between an AUI FOIRL transceiver, but that seems 
>> like a needless expense.  Has anyone got any suggestions on how to handle 
>> this sort of set up?
>> 
> ODS (Optical Data Systems) makes a self-powered FOIRL transceiver that
> connects to the 'repeater' end of a transceiver cable, then you plug
> the other end of the transceiver in to a standard 802.3 transceiver, which
> could be a BNC connected transceiver.  One word of caution, the new ODS
> models don't have a high/low power switch, so you have to be careful about
> your DB loss or having them to 'close' togeather.
> 
>  ____________________________________________________________________________
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I was going to recommend looking at ODS as well.  I'm not sure if the have
an FOIRL product or if it is based on their proprietary fibre protocol.
Regardless, be carefull of a one more things.  We bought an ODS 238 to 
connect fibre to a thinwire segment.  Appearently, this beast is not meant
to go on a segment but only thinwire with one other node (ie for connecting
to something that only has thinwire).  It didn't detect collisions on the
thinwire, and didn't work at all.

Make sure you talk with someone from ODS in Texas so they know what you
want to do with it.  Even the glossies we have said it would work with 
a segment; our salemen told us we must have gotten old glossies.  

Tom

-- 

Thomas Hilbig,
Network & Hardware Engineer,		Address:    1330 Burlington St East,
Information and Automation Systems,		    Hamilton, Ontario
Dofasco Inc.                            	    Canada   L8N 3J5
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From: dwight@hyphen.com (Dwight Ernest)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Re: ISDN info Please
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:44:16 GMT
Organization: Hyphen, Inc., Wilmington, MA 01887 USA / +1 508 988-0880

The best book I've found on ISDN is "ISDN in Perspective", by Fred Goldstein,
published by Addison-Wesley.  Check with your local tech bookseller.

-- 
--Dwight A. Ernest		KA2CNN			I speak only for myself.
  Publishing System Communications and Networking Consultant
  dae@world.std.com		dwight@hyphen.com
From: SLENDT@athena.unomaha.edu (STEVE LENDT - C&DC NETWORK )
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Re: FOIRL transcievers with BNC connector
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:02:03 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11

In <paul.164@ace.acadiau.ca> paul@ace.acadiau.ca writes:

> We are looking for someone that make FOIRL tranceivers that have a thinnet
> BNC connector rather than an AUI connector.  The AUI type transceiver works
> fine in locations where we only have one 10BaseT hub, but on some places, 
> especially labs, we often have 4 or more 10BaseT hubs connected together by 
> thinnet, and in these situations we need an FOIRL transceiver with a BNC end.
> So far we haven't found anyone who makes such a beast.  The alternative is 
> to put a BNC repeater box between an AUI FOIRL transceiver, but that seems 
> like a needless expense.  Has anyone got any suggestions on how to handle 
> this sort of set up?
> 
ODS (Optical Data Systems) makes a self-powered FOIRL transceiver that
connects to the 'repeater' end of a transceiver cable, then you plug
the other end of the transceiver in to a standard 802.3 transceiver, which
could be a BNC connected transceiver.  One word of caution, the new ODS
models don't have a high/low power switch, so you have to be careful about
your DB loss or having them to 'close' togeather.
> ___
> Paul Steele, Network Services Manager              902-542-2201x660
> Acadia University, Computer Centre            FAX: 902-542-7224
> Wolfville, Nova Scotia, Canada, B0P 1X0  Internet: Paul@ace.acadiau.ca

 ____________________________________________________________________________
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|  University of Nebraska at Omaha    |   or:   slendt@athena.unomaha.edu    |
|  Computing and Data Communications  |   bitnet (if you must) slendt@unoma1 |
|  6001 Dodge Street                  |   Voice Phone (402) 554-2523         |
|  Omaha, NE 68182-0051 USA           |   Fax (402) 554-3475                 |
|  The attention span of a computer is only as long as its electrical cord.  |
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From: mkl@uwasa.fi (Markus Lamminmaki)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Re: Problem with 'blem wit' (Summary)
Keywords: blem wit, Novell 3.11, pdipx.com
Date: 16 Apr 92 06:46:13 GMT
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland


Ok, I got two responses regarding this problem via email:

Erick Engelke wrote:

> It's probably part of a string 'Problem with...'.  Get a utility from 
> somewhere (eg. strings.exe) to search your device drivers and startup
> programs for this string.  There you will find the problem.
>
>
> Erick
> -- 
> Erick Engelke					  Engineering Computing
> 						 University of Waterloo
> Waterloo TCP Architect		 erick@development.watstar.uwaterloo.ca

And mikem@novell.com wrote:

>	The "blem wit" as far as I have been able to determine is actualy
> a string that says "problem with" that has been chopped. I wrote a TSR
> myself and when things did not go well, I'd get the blem wit to.
>
>	My guess is that you loaded a tsr after net5 that didn't terminate
> well. Or something went wrong while it was active. Thing will not work
> correctly untill you resolve the problem with the TSR that is doing this.

	It seems like that the probelm arose from when there was
	a device driver load right after the NET5 command. By moving
	drivers before NET5-load the 'blem wit' message was avoided.

	Thanx for your respones.

	--
	Markus					Mail: mkl@uwasa.fi
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
From: gold@ilp.mit.edu
Subject: Serial port connection wire?
Organization: MIT Industrial Liaison Program
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 05:34:01 GMT

I have a question about connecting serial ports between PC's.  At a 
place I work at part-time, we have 5 PC's in different rooms on 
different floor.  We won't be able to afford ANY networking 
options for about 1 year and I need to transfer one hugh file (3MB) 
between computers twice a week.

I have FASTLYNX to transfer files between computers very quickly
via serial lines.  I would like to temporarily run a few wires 
through small holes already in the walls between the serial ports.  
Unfortunately, I know very little about networking wire.  I am 
looking for some about the diameter of typical phone-cord wire that 
plugs into an adapter that, in turn, plugs into a serial port.  (I'll 
take care of pin configurations to be FASTLYNX compatible.)

Does anyone know of inexpensive wire that I can use for the purpose 
described above.  Thanks in advance for any assistance.
				- Mark Gold
				GOLD@ILP.MIT.EDU
Xref: sparky comp.dcom.lans.misc:199 comp.dcom.lans.fddi:201
From: cliff@garnet.berkeley.edu (Cliff Frost)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.dcom.lans.fddi
Subject: Re: How to Select Optical Fibres?
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:08:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.rtdhkINNfer
Reply-To: cliff@garnet.berkeley.edu (Cliff Frost)
Organization: ucb
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

In article <a563700.3@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk>, a563700@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk (Che-hoo Cheng) writes:
|> Hi all,
|> 
|> Could anyone give me some hints of how to select optical fibres?  
|> Specifically, I would like to know:

Here is one fiber cable problem I've seen very recently:

I've seen fiber bundles that have individual fiber strands wrapped in the
same color plastic sheath.  They aren't all the same color--some of the
individual fibers have uniquely colored sheaths, but there are (eg) two
black strands, two red strands, two orange strands, etc.

Obviously, this makes life a lot more complicated for the folks in the field
who have to terminate the cables.  Without actually shining a light down
one of the red strands, there is no way to know which red strand is which.

Why would anyone even bother to manufacture a bundle like that???

	Cliff Frost
	UC Berkeley
From: pascal@CAM.ORG (Pascal Gosselin)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Can 10Base-T operate without a hub?
Summary: Physical limits of 10Base-T ?
Keywords: 10 Base T Hub cabling 10Base-T 10-base-T
Date: 17 Apr 92 07:21:15 GMT
Organization: Altitude, St-Lambert QC  CANADA

Can I operate a very small (less than 100 feet) long 10-Base-T Ethernet
network with 3-4 nodes on it without a Hub?  Can 10-Base-T nodes be
daisy-chained in this fashion and still maintain acceptable performance?

I was told today by Nuvotech's Tech support (they make Ethernet products
for the Macintosh) that a small 10-Base-T network with 3 nodes could
be achieved without a hub "if the traffic is light".

Replies by E-Mail or this newsgroup would be much appreciated.

-Pascal


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| Omer DeSerres Informatique |   Voice (514) 843-3082    Fax (514) 843-9327 |
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From: mkl@uwasa.fi (Markus Lamminmaki)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Problem with 'blem wit'
Keywords: blem wit, Novell 3.11, pdipx.com
Date: 15 Apr 92 05:24:28 GMT
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland

Hello, I have a problem that I'm not able to solve by myself. I run a
Novell v3.11 network and use 3-COM 3C503 ethernet cards. I also use
Clarkson Packetdrivers v10.x for that card and PDIPX.COM (v3.04) as my
IPX driver.

MEM/C gives me following:

Conventional Memory :

  Name                Size in Decimal       Size in Hex
-------------      ---------------------   -------------
  MSDOS              13856      ( 13.5K)       3620
  HIMEM               1184      (  1.2K)        4A0
  ANSI                4192      (  4.1K)       1060
  COMMAND             2880      (  2.8K)        B40
  MODE                 464      (  0.5K)        1D0
  KEYB                6208      (  6.1K)       1840
  3C503               4240      (  4.1K)       1090
  PDIPX              19600      ( 19.1K)       4C90
  NET5               42112      ( 41.1K)       A480
  blem wit            4128      (  4.0K)       1020  <--- ???!!!
  FREE                  64      (  0.1K)         40
  FREE                  80      (  0.1K)         50
  FREE                  96      (  0.1K)         60
  FREE              555920      (542.9K)      87B90

Total  FREE :       556160      (543.1K) 

Total bytes available to programs : 556160   (543.1K)
Largest executable program size :   555600   (542.6K)

   1048576 bytes total contiguous extended memory
         0 bytes available contiguous extended memory
    983040 bytes available XMS memory
           MS-DOS resident in High Memory Area


I've heard that the 'blem wit' message would be a problem report from
the networkdriver? Anyone that could confirm this? If so, why does it
show up as a devicedriver and what could be done, if anything, to re-
move this problem report?

Thanx for any response.

--
From: bults@cs.utwente.nl (Richard Bults)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Re: FDDI & token ring router & bridge tests at H
Date: 13 Apr 92 11:25:36 GMT
Reply-To: bults@cs.utwente.nl
Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science

In article 679@hsdndev.UUCP, sob@hsdndev.UUCP (Scott Bradner) writes:
>

>
>If you have any suggestions for specific tests please let me know.

Are the DUTs in a particular configuration of the same vendor?
I don't want to end up in a single vendor solution due to proprietary encapsulation
techniques.
I prefer a multi vendor test, for example:
 
          -----------  ---------------  -----------
up to-----|         | /               \ |         |----- up to
  6  -----|   DUT   |<   fddi ring     >|   DUT   |-----   6
Enets-----|         | \               / |         |----- Ethernets
          -----------  ---------------  -----------
           vendor A                       vendor B


Richard Bults
network manager
University of Twente
the Netherlands
From: comptec91055@camins.camosun.bc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: network id soft.
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:30:19 GMT
Organization: Camosun College



		Hello Hardware gurus and hackers:

			I am attempting to write a small routine which can be
executed on any pc that returns information on the resident network card (type
mem. cap. etc.)  (assembly/c routine).. My problem is that I am unsure of which
interrupts the card takes over when it is installed, whether or not these inter-
rupts are from the dos vector table or directly from the cpu, and how they can
be used to access card info.  If anyone has the time I would very much appreciate
 any information that could be provided.  I will send anyone that responds a copy
of the final program which does a series of hardware checks and verifications
on the pc, including nice output (not that anyone responding would need this,
but what the heck..)   If there are any ideas could you please e-mail them.
 			Thanks in advance,
	
			D. Rozee
From: jgm@psyche.cc.deakin.OZ.AU (John Moorfoot)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Re: Two devices and only 3 pair?
Date: 14 Apr 92 07:57:05 GMT
Organization: Department of Comp/Maths - Deakin University

In article <1992Apr9.000259.5863@nntp.uoregon.edu>, jqj@duff.uoregon.edu (JQ Johnson) writes:
|> tg@utstat.uucp (Tom Glinos) writes:
|> +---------------
|> | I would like to put two xterminals into an office but it only has
|> | 3-pair going into the office. Any idea on how to get both running
|> | without dragging another pair into the office?
|> +---------------
|> 
|> Assuming your environment uses 10baseT, then use 2 pair for a 10baseT
|> drop, and put a multiport transceiver on the end of it.  Various vendors
|> make 2-port and 4-port 10baseT transceivers.  Then use the AUI ports
|> on the X terminals and plug them into the 2 AUI ports on the multiport
|> transceiver.
|> 
|> Alternatively, various vendors make baluns to convert 10baseT to thinwire,
|> albeit with additional distance constraints.
|> 
|> Alternatively, put a repeater (or 10baseT hub) on the end of the 10baseT
|> and have your own private segment of whatever Ethernet medium you want in
|> your office.  That's the most expensive, obviously.  But there are fairly
|> cheap 4-port 10baseT hubs available (dunno if there are any 2-port hubs)
|> if you happen to have X terminals with 10baseT ports on them.
|> 
Another option is to use a 10BaseT to 10Base2 converter and continue the run in thin ethernet cable. I know that MILAN and PLEXCOM make such devices and expect that there are other suppliers as well

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!                                                        Australia         !
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From: mshiels@TMSoftware.Ca (Michael A. Shiels)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Pipes multiplatform RPC/IPC
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:54:58 GMT
Organization: MaS Network Software and Consulting






Does anyone have an address/phone # for the company that makes
Pipes which is a multiplatform RPC/IPC mechanism?  Thanx.
-- 
---

Michael A. Shiels                           | mshiels@masnet.uucp
MaS Network Software and Consulting         | mshiels@tmsoftware.ca
From: krasnor@nimios.eng.mcmaster.ca (Carl Krasnor)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Cost-effective MS-DOS/MAC small LANs?
Summary: When 2-5 stations involved, what are cheap DOS/MAC LAN solutions?
Keywords: small LAN DOS MS-DOS MAC macintosh
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:40:08 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Communications Research Laboratory, McMaster Univ

What are the available options for a low-cost LAN to allow MACs and MS-DOS
PCs to share files and printers when there are only 2-5 stations on the LAN?
I am aware of TOPS but have heard that it consumes excessive memory on the PC
and has compatibility problems with Windows 3. Are the Windows problems just a
side effect of the memory usage which could be overcome by lots of RAM and
memory management software (e.g. QEMM) on a 386?

Are there any other solutions which price out at say, less than $500 per
station over the full 2-5 station range (NetWare with a dedicated server is
therefore right out!)?

Suggestions and advice are appreciated and I will summarize to the net if
requested.

Thanks in advance for the assistance.
-- 
===============================================================================
Carl Krasnor, Communications Research Lab, McMaster U., Hamilton, Ont. CANADA
krasnor@SSCvax.CIS.McMaster.CA  Tel:(416) 525-9140 x4171  FAX:(416) 521-2922
===============================================================================
From: stephan@cs.kuleuven.ac.be (Stephan Biesbroeck)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.protocols.tcpip
Subject: PC integrating in a TCP/IP network ???
Date: 17 Apr 92 09:29:16 GMT
Followup-To: comp.dcom.lans
Organization: dept. Computerwetenschappen (K.U.Leuven)


Hello,

I an looking for a sort of inventory of products (public domain and
commercial) to integrate PC's in a tcp/ip network.
I once saw a list on the net describing packages such as ka9q, pcroute, ...
Can someone send me that list. Or give me any pointers to products to
integrate a PC in a TCP/IP network ???

Thanks,

Stephan Biesbroeck
KULnet
Katholieke Universiteit Leuven
stephan@cs.kuleuven.ac.be
From: jerry@watchman.sfc.sony.com (Jerry Scharf)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Re: Two devices and only 3 pair?
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:37:46 GMT
Organization: SONY Advanced Video Technology Center San Jose, CA USA


As another way to connect two devices with 3 pair. Milan systems makes a cute
little box that takes a 10baseT connection, and runs a 10base2 thinwire run off
the back side. It doesn't count as a repeater, and can only take maybe 6-10 
machines and not much cable length, but may do what you need.
-- 
Jerry Scharf	Systems and Network Administrator
Advanced Video Technology Center  Sony America, San Jose, CA
email: jerry@sfc.sony.com	Phone (408) 944-4989
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
From: comptec91055@camins.camosun.bc.ca
Subject: network id soft.
Organization: Camosun College
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 00:32:53 GMT



		Hello Hardware gurus and hackers:

			I am attempting to write a small routine which can be
executed on any pc that returns information on the resident network card (type
mem. cap. etc.)  (assembly/c routine).. My problem is that I am unsure of which
interrupts the card takes over when it is installed, whether or not these inter-
rupts are from the dos vector table or directly from the cpu, and how they can
be used to access card info.  If anyone has the time I would very much appreciate
 any information that could be provided.  I will send anyone that responds a copy
of the final program which does a series of hardware checks and verifications
on the pc, including nice output (not that anyone responding would need this,
but what the heck..)   If there are any ideas could you please e-mail them.
 			Thanks in advance,
	
			D. Rozee
From: hobbit@babyoil.ftp.com (*Hobbit*)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Versatile multiport hub needed!
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:04:10 GMT
Expires: 1 Apr 93 12:34
Organization: large

Does anyone make a small desktop ether repeater with something like the
following:

	two thicknet port, one "network" sex and one "machine" sex
	one thinnet port
	maybe 4 10baseT ports

Something like this would be great to have in, say, a service shop where one
needs to connect up a bunch of different types of ethernet hardware just
to see if it works, without having a huge mahunker Synoptics box in the way.

Replies to me, pls

_H*
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
From: roy@alanine.phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith)
Subject: Need input on basic networking documents
Organization: Public Health Research Institute, New York
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:24:43 GMT

	Our networking group wants to develop a document that we can give
to anybody and everybody explaining about networking, telling them what
they need to know to get their machines connected and set up, helping them
plan what hardware and software to buy, pointing them in the right
direction to get help, etc, etc.  We're concerned with PCs, Macs, and Unix
workstations.  This is admittedly an extremely broad topic.

	I'm familiar with The Hitchikers Guide to the Internet and Zen and
the Art of the Internet, and similar documents but I think we have in mind
something a whole lot shorter and sweeter.  To be honest, we're not really
sure what we have in mind.  Obviously, we will have to write a document
that fits our local situation, but I'd be interested in seeing what sorts
of documents have been written in other places just so we can get some feel
for what's possible.  If you have such a document, and don't mind sharing
it, I would appreciate if you could get in touch with me.
-- 
roy@alanine.phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith)
Public Health Research Institute
455 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016, USA
"This never happened to Bart Simpson."
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
From: ldg@scott.skidmore.edu (Leo D. Geoffrion)
Subject: Is T-1 over co-ax possible?
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY, 12866
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:42:37 GMT

We need to interconnect two lans that are separated by about 3 miles.

We're currently looking to install a T-1 link between the sites.  We
have some idle co-ax (cable TV) lines that could be allocated for this
purpose, but all of the vendor materials that we've seen talk about
T-1 over twisted-pair circuits.  

Is is possible to run T-1 on a co-ax line?  Can anyone point us toward
appropriate vendors for such equipment?


-- 
Leo Geoffrion, Skidmore College Computer Services, Saratoga Springs, NY 12866
EMAIL: ldg@scott.skidmore.edu   VOICE: (518) 584-5000 Ext. 2628
From: turbo@tpki.toppoint.de (Torsten Stein)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Information about CRMA ?
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:14:25 GMT
Organization: Toppoint Mailbox e.V.


Hello everybody!

I'm searching further information about CRMA (cyclic-reservation
multiple-access), an access scheme for high-speed local and metro-
politan area networks.

Already known are two articles from M. Mehdi Nassehi.

Please reply via e-mail.

-- 
Torsten Stein		turbo@tpki.toppoint.de
2300 Kiel 14
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc