From: tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Robert Oliver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: TOS/TNG Klingons
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 15:34:17 EDT
Reply-To: ailanth!tallman@wang.com (Robert Oliver)
Organization: Ailanthus Project

TOS/TNG Klingons
 
tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Robert Oliver) writes:
>**** FASA role-playing material is just as bonafide as information one 
could glean from a moldy jelly doughnut. 
 
Well EXCUUUUUUUUUSE me! 
 
***** OK, if it makes you feel better, you're EXCUUUUUUUUUSED! Care for a 
doughnut? Seriously, why do you consider them to be so bonafide. Just 
because they had a license to produce ST gaming material doesn't mean 
anything. Paramount has no concern for the integrity of the ST universe. 
As long as they get their money, they don't seem to care what you print. 
Check out the disclaimer in Shane Johnson's "Worlds of the Federation" -- 
"The facts and background details regarding the STAR TREK universe as 
presented in The Worlds of the Federation are solely the author's 
interpretation of that universe." In other words, Johnson's book is no 
more official than anything you or I could make up. Look at the Pocket 
Books novels -- most of them are horrendously bad. If I gave Paramount 
the appropriate licensing fees and could guarantee a certain sales 
figure, I could put out a book with the most insipidly senseless drivel 
you've ever encountered and they probably wouldn't care. I am not saying 
that *everything* FASA wrote was a load of trash, its just that there is 
little reason to call it official just because it was licensed.
 
>Klingon supplement (which I once owned) may be thorough, "beleiveable" 
or any other word but it is NOT official. FASA made up all the 
Human/Klingon fusion stuff and everything I have read says that Gene 
Roddenberry hated the idea.. 
 
(Stuff about Playmates toy figures accidentally deleted) Check out the 
Klingon Gowron. If you read the personal history onthe back of the card, 
it says "... A pure-bred Klingon, identified by thedistinctive ridge on 
his head." This would suggest that the Klingons with-out that ridge are 
not pure-bred.Of course, you will simply dismiss this as a stupid toy 
company's falseinformation. Go ahead, you won't change my opinion.
 
***** Yep, that would just about be right. I'm hardly going to take 
information from a toy company all that seriously. I wouldn't attempt to 
change your opinion as that would be a useless and exceedingly pointless 
task. Do you believe *everything* you see in print that has a ST logo on 
it? What if Millie, the White House dog (or Socks, the White House cat) 
wrote a ST book that was licensed from Paramount? Would you believe them? 
Do you believe FASA's inaccurate timeline? Their inaccurate starship 
statistics? Their faulty character information? Their screwed-up history? 
Their complete inability to admit their own massive mistakes?
 
>.. the TOS Klingons actually *did* look like the TNG Klingons --they 
just didn't have the budget to do it in the 60's. This is, of course, the 
ultimate explanation that we must all accept -- make-uplimitations on a 
1960's television series.
 
Just curious, but does this also mean that the NCC1701 looked like the   
NCC1701D, but they just didn't have the budget to represent it better?? 
=)
 
***** Any failed attempts at humor aside, what the hell does this 
sentence mean? I made no implication that a *Galaxy* class starship was 
meant to be a better representation of a *Constitution* class starship. 
Please, don't use an analogy if you don't know how to construct one. The 
"TOS Klingons actually look like TNG Klingons" idea came from Gene 
Roddenberry, not myself. I suppose if Roddenberry worked as a copy writer 
for the Playmates toy company or a staff writer for FASA then *maybe* you 
might give some credit to what he says. But, heh, you've got your opinion 
and are not about to let anything like the words of the man who created 
Star Trek have any effect on your line of thinking. 

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Robert Oliver, tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com
via Ailanthus Project +1 207-989-6562 - Brewer, Maine.
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