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Subject:      GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 288

In this issue:
                  list of queer-*related* film titles
                                 things
                      Northampton GLB Pride March
                          jewish/xian bonding
                             cross-dressing
                    GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 287
                               mosaic law
                    few more transformation thingies

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Date:    Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:15:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: NICKELSRJ@RASCAL.GUILFORD.EDU
Subject: list of queer-*related* film titles

hey, folks -- rj here.  a few days back i asked for suggestions for queer-
positive film titles.  the response was amazing.  i have amassed over 185
titles of queer-*related* films.  note that i use the term *related*, because
-----> NOT ALL OF THESE FILMS PORTRAY QUEERS POSTIVELY !!! <-----
please take note of this.  most of them do; however, some have queer killers,
spies (bad ones), etc.  i am simply passing on the titles listed to me.

if you want a "complete" list of the films (by complete i mean that most have
some documentation, i.e. description, year made, etc.), e-mail me for it.
i'd be happy to pass it on to people who want the extra info, but to post it
all on the net would be ridiculous.
so, anyhow, here's my list (so far) of queer-related films:
----------------------------------------------------------
A Bigger Splash                         A Celebration of Lesbian and Gay Life
A Conversation with Brian McNaught         and Love
   on Being Gay [On Being Gay]          A Man Like Eva [Ein Mann wie Eva]
A Moffie Called Simon                   A Very Natural Thing
A Woman of My Platoon                   A Woman's Place Is in the House
Absence of Us                           Abuse
All Out Dancing in Dulais               Alternative Conceptions
An Early Frost                          Angel [Angelos]
Another Country                         Apartment Zero
Army of Lovers, or Revolt of the        As Is
   Perverts                             Before Stonewall:  The Making of a Gay
Behind Glass                               and Lesbian Community (PBS film)
Black and White [Noir et Blanc]         Blue Jeans
Bright Eyes                             Buddies
Carravagio                              Choosing Children
Colonel Redl                            Consenting Adult
Corps de Parole                         Cruising
Dark Habits (Entre Tinebras?)           Death in Venice [Morte a Venezia]
Del Martin and Phyllis Lyon             Derek Jarman, Know What I Mean
Desert Hearts                           Desire
Different from the Others               Dog Day Afternoon
   [Anders als die Anderen]             Doing Time on Maple Drive
Dona Herlinda and Her Son [Dona         Drifting
   Herlinda y Su Hijo]                  Drum
Du Er Ikke Alene                        Edward II
Entertaining Mr. Sloane                 Entre Nous
Ernesto                                 Fellini's Satyricon
For Love and For Life: The 1987 March   Forbidden Passion: Oscar Wilde
   on Washington for Lesbian and Gay    Forever Mary
   Rights                               Fox and His Friends
Framed Youth                            Fun Down There
Gay for a Day/Costumes on Review        Gay Games II: Highlights
Gay Games II: Women's Physique          Gay Voices, Gay Legends
Gay, Proud, and Sober                   Greetings from Washington, D.C.
Handel und Wandel                       Honored by the Moon
Horror Vacuii                           I've Heard the Mermaids Singing
If She Grows up Gay                     Improper Conduct [Mauvaise Conduite]
In a Year of Thirteen Moons             In the Best Interests of the Children
In the Out Tray                         Just Because of Who We Are
Kim                                     Kiss of the Spider Woman
La Cage Aux Folles [Birds of a Feather] La Cage Aux Folles II
La Cage Aux Folles III                  Labor More Than Once
Law of Desire                           Lesbian Mothers
Lesbian Tongues                         Lesbians Against the Right
Lianna                                  Lifetime Commitment: A Portrait of Karen
Longtime Companion                         Thompson
Looking for Langston                    Madchen in Uniform
Making Love                             Mala Noche
Males Couples: How Relationships        Mass Appeal
   Develop                              Maurice
Memoire de notre hystoire 1972-1987     Men In Love
Michael, A Gay Son                      Montgomery Clift
My Beautiful Launderette                My Own Private Idaho
Naked Civil Servant                     Norman, Is That You?
Not All Parents are Straight            Novembermoon
Oranges Are Not The Only Fruit          Outrageous!
Paris Is Burning                        Part of the U.S.A.: The Official
Parting Glances                            National March on Washington for
Partners                                   Lesbian and Gay Rights Video
Personal Best                           Pink Triangles: A Study of Prejudice
Poison                                     against Lesbians and Gay Men
Portrait of Jason                       Prick Up Your Ears
Prison for Women [P4W, Pan Canadian     Privates on Parade
   Prison for Women]                    Querelle
Rights and Reactions: Lesbian and Gay   Salut Victor!
   Rights on Trial                      Sebastian [Sebastiane]
Sergeant Matlovich vs. U.S. Air Force   Sharing the Secret
Silent Pioneers                         Silkwood
Some of My Best Friends Are...          Sonia Johnson: Going Farther Out of Our
   [The Bar]                               Minds
Staircase                               Storme: The Lady of the Jewel Box
Sunday Bloody Sunday                    Susana
Swoon                                   Taxi zum Klo [Taxi to the Toilet]
Taxi to Cairo                           That Certain Summer
The Best Way [La Meilleure Facon de     The Bitter Tears of Petra Von Kant
   Marcher, The Best Way to Walk]       The Black Lizard
The Boys in the Band                    The Christine Jorgensen Story
The Clinic                              The Consequence
The Decameron                           The Deputy [El Diputado, Confessions of
The Everlasting Secret Family              a Congressman]
The Families We Choose                  The Four Adventures of Reinette and
The Fourth Man [De Vierde Man]             Mirabelle
The Heart Exposed                       The Historic March on Washington: The
The Hunger                                 Largest Gay Rights Demonstration Ever
The Killing of Sister George            The Leather Boys
The Naked Civil Servant: The            The Outcasts
   Autobiography of Quentin Crisp       The Outsiders
The Queen                               The Ritz
The Rocky Horror Picture Show           The Times of Harvey Milk
The Wounded Man [L'Homme Blesse]        This Special Friendship [Les Amities
Tidy Endings                               Particuliers]
Tiny and Ruby: Hell Divin' Women        Tongues Untied
Too Outrageous!                         Torch Song Trilogy
Two of Us                               Urinal
Veronica 4 Rose                         Victim!
Victor, Victoria                        We Are Family
We Are Ourselves                        We Think The World of You
We Were One Man [Nous Etions un Seul    Welcome Home Bobby
   Homme]                               Westler: East of the Wall
What Shall We Do Without Death          Who Happen to Be Gay
Whoever Says the Truth Shall Die        Wild Life
Witches, Dykes, Faggots, and Poofters   Wonderland [The Fruit Machine]
Word Is Out: Stories of Some of Our     World of Light: A Portrait of May Sarton
   Lives - Conversations with 16 Gay    You Are Not Alone [Du Er Ikke Alene]
   Men and Women                        You Can Fight City Hall
Young Soul Rebels                       Zazie
----------------------------------------------------------
that's the list of titles.  as i said, if you want documentation on all or
some of the films listed, e-mail me for it.

*disclaimer*:  all typos are the reponsibility of the contributors.
	       also, i apologize for the slightly strange order, i.e.
			film a			film b
			film c			film d
			....etc.		....etc.
	       this was the easiest way to format, so that it would take
	       up less line space.  sorry if it's inconvenient for copying;
	       i can send, personally, a line-by-line list to anyone who
	       desires one.
thanks a lot, everybody --
:)
--rj      nickelsrj@rascal.guilford.edu

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From: awerling@NMSU.Edu
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 13:30:26 MDT
Subject: things

If Camille Paglia really said the things Frank posted, then she
isn't worth listening to to begin with.  I've rarely seen such hurtful,
negative, nonproductive, unhelpful, just-basically-nasty blasts
of destruction aired by *anybody.*

Loren, I really could care if your poll revealed that the majority
of gaynet readers wanted to read about religion and homosexuality.
People who put on conferences and post registration forms to the
net might only interest two people, but it is definitely acceptable
net material.

Thank god the ability to share one's thoughts is not based on a
democratic vote.

Andrew Werling  awerling@nmsu.edu  Speak with peace.
"We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in
Germany was 'legal' and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters
did in Hungary was 'illegal.'" --Martin Luther King, Jr., 1963

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From: Amy.E.Lesen@WILDLIFE.umass.edu
Subject: Northampton GLB Pride March

Hello Everyone,
     Seeing someone announce the Northampton Pride March
on gaynet gave me the idea to openly invite all bi-positive
folks who are close enough to Northampton, Mass. to make it worth
their while to come here.  I go to Umass/Amherst and live in
Northampton.  This is the first time the word "Bisexual" has ever
been in the pride march title, and believe me, it was not easy
to get it there.  It is only the result of three years of infighting
in the Pioneer Valley GLB community and a community-wide vote.
So asbisexuals and bi-positive queers, we need to show this
community that we are not crazy for thinking that bisexual inclusion
is important.  So if you want to have a great time and show
your support for an inclusive GLB community, come to Northamton
on May 9th.  There is a dance at a local gay-owned bar that evening.
If anyone wants to ask me about the march, (don't come here expecting
NY pride, Northampton is small!) you can write me at:
AEL@WILDLIFE.UMASS.EDU
Thanks a lot.
AMY E. LESEN
DEPT. of Forestry and Wildlife
University of Mass. at Amherst

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From: awerling@NMSU.Edu
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 13:43:05 MDT
Subject: jewish/xian bonding

Gabriel wrote:

>7. one good thing chuck has accomplished: Proving their is no such
>thing as a Judaeo-Christian tradition, other than the ill will
>Christians have towards Jews.

A bit of a generalization, though.  I know quite a few Christians
who have no perceivable tendency towards this "ill will...towards
Jews."

Andrew Werling  awerling@nmsu.edu  Speak with peace.
"We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in
Germany was 'legal' and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters
did in Hungary was 'illegal.'" --Martin Luther King, Jr., 1963

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From: hoffmanf@einstein.susqu.edu
>To: gaynet@athena.mit.edu
>From: hoffmanf
Date: Thu Apr 16 15:45:31 EDT 1992
Subject: cross-dressing
Ua-Message-Id: <PMXSTAR-2.2.1a-hoffmanf-000000real-292>

__
\/ This is to John Howard and anyone else interested:  There's a terrific book
on transvestism just out by Marjorie Garber; it's called VESTED INTERESTS:
CROSS-DRESSING AND CULTURAL ANXIETY.  You might also look at the stuff on
cross-dressing in Elaine Showalter's SEXUAL ANARCHY.  (I'm afraid I don't have
any journal article titles at my fingertips--sorry.)  I can't think offhand
of any lesbian cross-dresser films; but check Vito Russo's book THE
CELLULOID CLOSET.  There are, of course, straight-type films, like the
Katherine Hepburn movie SYLVIA SCARLET (or is it WILL SCARLET?), the Garbo
film QUEEN CHRISTINA, and the Streisand film YENTL; but this is probably not
what you're after.  Larry Gross, are you out there?

                                        --Frank Hoffman

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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 92 15:44:54 EDT
From: Bill Beeman <WBEEMAN@brownvm.brown.edu>
Subject:      Re: GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 287

Re: John Howard's request on cross-dressing.
You might get in touch with Marjorie Garber, Department
of English at Harvard who has done extensive studies
of cross-dressing in entertainment and film.

Also Steven Ocutt of the English department at
Stanford for the same with theater.

Finally, Lawrence Senelick, Department of Theater, Tuffts U.
is publishing a collection of papers on Gender and Theater
which contains many pieces on cross-dressing.

There is also a very interesting Japanese cabaret/theater
troupe of all women, some of whom cross-dress as men.

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 16:01:17 EDT
From: Tim Pierce <twpierce@cs.amherst.edu>
Subject: mosaic law

Gabriel <G9348712%NMSUVM1.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu> said:

> 2.  TRICKS PEOPLE USE TO MAKE JUDAISM LOOK LUDICROUS:
>   a. MAKING UP Mosaic law that does not exist.  Example: Nothing in the Law
>      forbids wearing of poly/cotton, regardless of the number of times you
>      folks have said and e-mailed the statement.  I can't see how you can
>      translate *sha'atnez* to mean poly/cotton.  The only material that is
>      'unkosher' is a linen/wool blend (which does not seem to hamper my life
>      very much).

Tell it to the people who translate it as a general "two fabrics."
Are you willing to accept a law mistranslated as condemning
homosexuality, but not willing to accept one mistranslated as "wearing
cloth made of two fabrics?"

-
____ Tim Pierce                /
\  / twpierce@cs.amherst.edu   /            See it and understand.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /

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From: awerling@NMSU.Edu
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 15:05:11 MDT
Subject: few more transformation thingies

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   Here's an article that appeared in EL PASO TIMES, April 3, 1992:

   UNHAPPY GAYS FIND NEW LIVES IN CHRISTIAN TRANSFORMATION PROGRAM
   by Mike McManus, freelance columnist

   Anthony Falzarano, 35, gave the most extraordinary Christian testimony
   I've ever heard in church--how he fell into homosexuality, was
   delivered out of it, and has since created "Transformation," a
   ministry to men and women in Washington, D.C. who want to escape what
   Paul called "shameful lusts."

   He told Christ, Our Shepherd, his own congregation, that his father
   "was a weak person, an absentee father."  As a neglected eighth child,
   in a poor immigrant family, Falzarano felt "I am not worthy."

   "At age 12, I was molested by my brother; he later committed suicide.
   A man picked me up and offered me money for sex.  I fell into a group
   of people who were paying for that," including Roy Cohn, the famous
   attorney from the McCarthy hearings who recently died of AIDS.

   "He took me in as his kept boy.  He was a millionaire with a Rolls
   Royce, Palm Beach, Europe--whatever I wanted.  Sin began as a cobweb
   and then became chains.  I was in bondage.  I stayed in a gay
   lifestyle for nine years.  I saw everything.  When you see someone say
   they are gay, they are not gay, are not happy at all.  For a time,
   when you first come out, you have an identity, after growing up when
   you have no identity whatsoever.

   "I got involved in male prostitution.  A client came to see me.  We
   had a sexual fall together.  He got out of bed and said, "I have
   sinned and I have caused you to sin."  I said, 'What are you talking
   about?'"

   The man pointed to various verses in Scripture.  Falzarano, who had a
   nominal Catholic upbringing, had never seen the verses that say
   homosexuals cannot "inherit the Kingdom of God."  Though he was
   making $30,000 a year as a prostitute, he "could no longer do this for
   money."

   But he remained active for five more years: "I slept with 400 men in
   nine years.  Slowly, I stopped the promiscuous sex which I was
   addicted to.

   "Then the oddest thing happened. I went home for Christmas evening in
   1982, I was in church and the Holy Spirit spoke to me: 'You will marry
   Diane.'  Living in the gay lifestyle, that was totally ridiculous to
   me."  But the thought kept returning, so he wrote Diane.

   "She called me, saying 'You will think this is weird.  But that's what
   a voice told me!'  We were engaged by February," and married in
   October.

   A few months after their marriage, when she was pregnant, a former
   boyfriend called and said, "'You'd better get tested.'  I said, 'For
   what?'  'Because I am dying of AIDS.'  It hit me like a ton of bricks.
   I slept with 400 people.  I must be infected!  But the test came back
   negative.

   "From that point, I made a covenant that I would never sleep with
   another man.  The Lord healed me like that.  I told Him I was sorry
   for the sin in my life.  But the thoughts did not go away.  Four years
   into our marriage, I was an addict to pornography."  Someone suggested
   he go to a ministry for ex-gays in Baltimore called "Regeneration."

   At his first meeting, I Corinthians 6:9-11 was read, which goes beyond
   saying that male prostitutes and homosexuals won't inherit the kingdom
   of God.

   "And that is what some of you were.  But you were washed, you were
   sanctified" by Jesus.  In other words, a total transformation is
   possible.

   Regeneration introduced him to books to help him understand the root
   causes of his homosexuality--a weak father, sexual molestation, etc.

   Four years ago, he became convinced "God spared me from AIDS" (which
   has killed 35 of his friends) for a purpose: "To reach out to the
   30,000 to 35,000 homosexuals living within five miles of this church,
   to tell them, 'You don't have to be in bondage.'  After nine years of
   being on the top in the gay life, I know how miserable and unhappy
   these people are."

   But he says "For many years we could not get support from churches.
   You can go to a cocktail party, and say 'I am a recovering alcoholic
   or drug addict,' and people say, 'Praise the Lord!'  But if you say,
   'I am a recovering homosexual,' they like leave!  This is what has to
   change."

   I went to a Transformation meeting attended by 20 men and women.  The
   most moving part of the evening came when they broke into three small
   groups for "confession."

   They varied from Chris, a male prostitute, to a youth who visibly
   shuddered when asked, "Why are you here?"  He could not talk about it.
   Chris poured out a ghastly tale of being tied down as a little boy by
   his mother and uncles for sex.

   Richard, 31, left Toronto to come to Transformation.  "I am a child
   emotionally," he said.  He had had sex with two dozen men, but "It has
   gone down a lot.  I'm getting help here I need.  My church wouldn't
   help me."

   Why not?  Don't churches believe Scripture that people can change?

   Transformation is one of 90 ex-gay ministries that are a part of
   Exodus.  To learn more call (415) 454-1017, or write to 1420 16th St.
   NW, Washington 20036.
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   End of article

   The previous does not *at all* reflect my views, and was retyped
   without permission.

-
Andrew Werling  awerling@nmsu.edu  Speak with peace.
"We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in
Germany was 'legal' and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters
did in Hungary was 'illegal.'" --Martin Luther King, Jr., 1963

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From: awerling@nmsu.edu (WERLING)
Subject: Re: Transformation bullshit
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:54:35 GMT

   I just posted the big ole column I had been talking about earlier
   with regards to Transformation, ex-gay ministries.

   People will call me "pc" most likely, but I have the strong feeling
   that this ex-gay support group stuff must be very dangerous.  We're
   talking about focusing and targeting on people who have been bashed in
   some way or another throughout their lives.  People with low
   self-esteem and *tons* of self-doubt.

   Exploitation.  Brainwashing.  What else can you call it?  Personally,
   I find the stuff extremely offensive.

   Here's the letter I wrote to the EL PASO TIMES in response to  the
   Mike McManus editorial I just posted.  The publication date of the
   letter is 4-10-92

   COLUMN ON GAYS CHANGING OBSCENE

   It's unfortunate that you chose to run Mike McManus' April 3 column,
   "Unhappy gays find new life in Christian Transformation."  The belief
   that homosexuals can change their sexual orientation via religion is
   one of the most ridiculous things I have read in your paper.

   The cases described by McManus are extremes of unhappy people using
   sex to punish themselves.  The same things happen to heterosexuals.

   The difference?  Heterosexuals aren't "cured" by brainwashing them
   into a homosexual mindset.  Our society views homosexuality as a
   deviation from the norm, instead of a non-majority trait.  It's
   obscene to suggest homosexals should change in order to cure the
   unhappiness in their lives.

   McManus is just perpetuating myths and blatant lies about
   homosexuality.  There are happy homosexuals.  People who convert are
   denying their true selves, and will definitely revert to unhappiness
   in no time.

-
Andrew Werling  awerling@nmsu.edu  Speak with peace.
"We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in
Germany was 'legal' and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters
did in Hungary was 'illegal.'" --Martin Luther King, Jr., 1963


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