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From: DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: The Emplant Ordeal.
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:09:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92323.190930DXB132
 <tpang.722084100@sfu.ca> <1ee0ggINNb4j@network.ucsd.edu>
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1ee0ggINNb4j@network.ucsd.edu>, simon@ivem.ucsd.edu (Simon Lee)
says:

>In article <tpang.722084100@sfu.ca> tpang@fraser.sfu.ca (Tsui Ting Debbie
>Pang)
>writes:
>>langston@memstvx1.memst.edu (Mark C. Langston) writes:

>What features were pulled?  SCSI?  Disabled because of software bugs.  Hmm...
>what else?

68000 support.

>ever developing on the Amiga.  I for one was.  Mostly because people expect
>every small developer to act like the mega corps who've got gobs of money and
>a long standing reputation.  Face it, UU isn't Microsoft.  They are not IBM.

Your point is well taken, but there are many Amiga companies smaller than
U.U. (I worked for one last summer btw) who manage to do things right.

>Go buy a Falcon!  I saw one in the pet shop the other day.  The DSP sure makes
>them sound real!

:-)  I'm afraid the Falcon has been delayed pending the outcome of the lawsuit
recently filed by U.U. over the violation of their Hype-Ware (TM) patent.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: cpw8034@rigel.tamu.edu (Alan Wen (409) 693-2924)
Subject: Re: Emplant, sybil, and ???
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:59:00 GMT

In article <18NOV199209102926@oregon.uoregon.edu>, sworkman@oregon.uoregon.edu (Michael Sean Workman) writes...
>You people really seem to be slamming Utilities Unlimited pretty hard.  I
>just saw a guy say that he's giving UU another chance.  After Sybil and now
>Emplant, he'll give them one more... well folks, let's not forget the Super
>Card Ami (or as I like to call it - the Stupid Card Ami).  The 'copy
>anything' hardware copier.  First off, I ordered one (a long time ago) and
>it took them about three months to get it to me.... when I got it I tried
>backing up my workbench disk (just to test out the blazing speed of the DOS
>copy)  Yeah, it was fast.  Real fast, but itsure as hell wasn't a copy of
>Workbench on the other disk.  How am I supposed to believe it will back up
>my expensive software when it won't even backup Workbench?!  I called Jim
>Drew... "It will work better on copy protected disks..."  What the hell
>does that mean?  A disk copier that won't copy totally unprotected disks is
>worthless.  I called and called and finally had to call the Better Business
>Bureau on them (I think THAT'S why they moved from Oregon to Arizona...) I
>finally had to drive 3 hours to their 'place of business'  I was surprised
>I didn't step in horse shit... it was a barn!  Yes, a barn!  Sure it had a
>concrete floor, but nothing changes the fact that it was a barn.  And
>conveniently, the person I needed to see wasn't there and nobody there
>could answer ANY of my questions...  I'm never buying ANY other UU products
>again (and I'm recommending other people against doing so) until I see one
>functioning 100% in front of me and have heard of at least one OTHER person
>getting the same results...  The guy seems like a con artist to me... don't
>be fooled into thinking that this is the first time they've done this...
>the delays, the excuses, it's all well practised! 

Sorry i had to repost the entire message but I couldn't help but roll on the
floor laughing.  I also sent copies of this to some friends.. :-D

This is TRUE humor!  ...in the Seinfields flavor if you ask me!

alan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: magundi@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (john macdonald)
Subject: Re: Amouse and Janus 2.1
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:57:29 GMT

In article <37073@cbmvax.commodore.com> givler@bermuda.cbm.commodore.com (Greg Givler) writes:
>
>They should be able to help you with most of the basic problems. Actually,
>the idea has been that our dealers should be able to help with Support, 
>since they sell the machines and work with them regularly.

You have obviously haven't dealt with many amiga dealers.  :-/
From: holler@holli.UUCP (Jan Holler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: A-Max II & SCSI drives (mac formatted - SyQuest) HELP!!!
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:25:59 GMT
Organization: my own mess
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <5108@disuns2.epfl.ch> sarrasin@disuns2.epfl.ch (Christian Sarrasin) writes:
> 
> I am having trouble using A-Max II (v2.51 + original A-Max I cartridge
> with 128K ROMS) with my 88MB SyQuest drive.
> 
> Using a Max IIsi and a formatting utility (ETC Tools v2.0.2), I prepared
> ...
> The emulators starts, brings up the finder (I am running v6.0.5), and then
> a requester pops up, telling me that my SyQuest cartridge is not a
> MacIntosh disk, and asks me if I want to format it.
> 
> I tried everything and could not read the damn cartridge. Then I tried to
> format it again, going as low as low-level format, but the last step of
> the initialization (which is the DOS-level format) always fails.
> 
> Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong, or give me a pointer to a set of
> utilities that can achieve my goals?
 
Try using an other formatter! There are always problems with the various
kinds. I tried the same without any problem using a tool called
Silverlining2.26 (or Util5.02 or Util7.01, there are several). The problem
is the driver the formatter puts on the first (invisible) partition on disk
and not the intitialization (which is done by the mac itself).
Since the Mac doesn't know about removable media, the driver mostly contain
some hack which could be no good for A*AX.

>                     Christian Sarrasin  (sarrasin@di.epfl.ch)
>      ----------------------------------------------------------------------

-- 

                    Jan Holler - Bern, Switzerland 
           uunet!cbmvax!cbmehq!cbmswi!augs1!holli!Jan_Holler
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From: wwarner@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Art Warner)
Subject: Re: I got Emplant Working!!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 03:41:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.164838.1099984@sue.cc.uregina.ca> macnei@hercules.cs.uregina.ca (Mike MacNeill) writes:
>GET A REAL MAC YOU MORONS!!!!!!!!!!  

GIVE ME THE MONEY, YOU ASS-WIPE!!!!!!
And while you're at it, kill off most of my brain cells 
so I'll be just like you and not realize what I'm missing!

BTW: Followups to csa.advocacy.
-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
William "Art" Warner (317-497-1946)      //\
ex Amiga Student On-Campus Consultant  \X/--\miga makes it happen!
wwarner@en.ecn.purdue.edu             IBM, Apple, Sun, & Next make it expensive!
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From: lsr@taligent.com (Larry Rosenstein)
Subject: Re:  Emplant ideas
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Organization: Taligent, Inc.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:45:45 GMT

In article <jdrew.0jxj@cryo.rain.com>, jdrew@cryo.rain.com (Jim Drew)
wrote:
> 
> Again, we are dealing with a MAC here.  The video size is hard coded in
> the declaration ROM.  

It seems to me that there are Mac video cards that support multiple
resolutions.

> We can make various video sizes, however, the MAC
> software *must* support them or *boom!*.  The MAC doesn't have the
> features of the Amiga.  ;-)

The Mac should support any size video screen.
From: jdrew@cryo.rain.com (Jim Drew)
Subject: Re:  Emplant ideas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.26 beta (Oct 19 1992)
Date: 22 Nov 92 17:26:14 PDT
Organization: Cryogenic Software - Portland, OR


>   Ok here's one. Will emplant work *properly* with a standard commodore
> monitor? By that I mean will it look at the displaysize set for workbench
> and open Emplant *that* size. Opening a 640x400 emplant on a screen that
> is 710x476 loses quite a bit. Hardcoding 640x400 went out when KS1.2 was
> released.
> 
Again, we are dealing with a MAC here.  The video size is hard coded in
the declaration ROM.  We can make various video sizes, however, the MAC
software *must* support them or *boom!*.  The MAC doesn't have the
features of the Amiga.  ;-)


Jim Drew - Vice President, Utilities Unlimited, Inc.
           1641 McCulloch Blvd. Suite #25-124
           Lake Havasu City, AZ  86403
           (602) 680-9004     (602) 680-9006 FAX    (602) 453-9767 BBS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: petekunz@iiic.ethz.ch (Peter John Kunz)
Subject: Re: Who has a working EMPLANT?
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:45:06 GMT

In article <kf2RZmm00YUoRKS28=@andrew.cmu.edu> Chee Leong Lee <cl3a+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>jharris@cup.portal.com (John D Harris) writes:
>> ** Working Emplant **
>> U.U. new release of the Emplant software, available as NEWEMP.LHA on their
>> BBS, appears to be operational!  The emulator runs on an A2000 with A2630
>
>Can someone put this file on an ftp-site somewhere?
>
i propose amiga.physik.unizh.ch


cu
-pete



-- 
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petekunz@iiic.ethz.ch	pkunz@amiga.physik.unizh.ch
From: rpfaff@umiacs.umd.edu (Ray Pfaff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: EMPLANT Updates ????
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:51:41 GMT
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742

As far as posting is concerned, could someone tell me how fast
emplant runs in comparision to a mac?  So far I've only seen 2000
owners with Commadore accelerator cards get it to work, but I'm
interested in what speed they're getting.
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From: magundi@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (john macdonald)
Subject: Re: Who has a working EMPLANT?
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:05:46 GMT

In article <y2keuB3w164w@cellar.org> swinokur@cellar.org (Steve Winokur) writes:
>cpw8034@summa.tamu.edu (Alan Wen (409) 693-2924) writes:
>
>
>	I suspect that stuff like all the posting here forced Jim to release
>his product before it was truly ready for market.

The only thing that could forced Jim to release it before it was
in the Beta stage of testing was that they were charging people's
credit cards.

>
>	I have my board, and I'm sure that in the next weeks I'll have
>software updates.  
>
>	-steve
>

I am sure that you will get updates in the next couple of weeks.
At least to me I find it interesting that you didn't say you were
sure that you would have a working board.
From: rblewitt@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Richard Blewitt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Sybil and Emplant
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:20:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <41493@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> orovner@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Oleg Rovner) writes:

>I have a Sybil that works fine with a 68000 and no fast RAM on a
>500. It eats shit and dies with a Mega Midget Racer 32 bit RAM, a
>Trumpcard 4meg 16 bit RAM board, or a combination thereof. 

Strange, since you got it to work on my 10 meg 3000 after about 5
minutes of tinkering.  I guess you have 1 hack too many on your
system.

Rick

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From: fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Golden Gate 486!!
Date: 18 Nov 92 12:03:14 GMT
Organization: Wright State University

In article <1992Nov17.175436.16779@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA>, tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:
> In article <1992Nov17.154327.7986@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung) writes:
> 
> 
>>PS: BTW, I was reading Amiga Format, and came across an article saying
>>    Commodore has released a new 386sx BB.  According to the article, it
>>    comes with 2MB of ram, usable by both the BB and the Amiga, and
>>    only costs #250.  Is that true?  Is this the same board we have been
>>    talking about for months? or is this a new board?  either way,
>>    #250 sounds good!  Any hope we can get it for US$400?
> 
	But, to have a setup comparable to a PC clone in all aspects, you
	would still need a VGA card, and a dedicated hard drive and 
	controller.  That also takes up two slots and a drive bay inside
	your Amiga.  Then you will also need a monitor switcher box.
	Thus add another $50+$300+$100+$30=$480.  For ~$900.00 you can by 
	a complete no-name 386sx clone with HD and monitor!!

	Now if Commodore improved the graphics performance to 16-color
	VGA and brought the fake HD performance up to an acceptable level
	so that you didn't need the add-ons for serious work, the 386sx BB
	would be a good deal, even if it costs a couple hundred more.  The
	BB would then be perfect for its intended purposed IMHO.  To run
	the productivity software not available for the Amiga.

> This is new to me. 
> 
Sorry,  I'm in a bit of a BB-bashing mood since I found the A2286s hardware
bugs.
Fred Heitkamp,  ** Not an organization,  My opinions only **
From: jdrew@cryo.rain.com (Jim Drew)
Subject: Re: Emplant and OpalVIsion...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.26 beta (Oct 19 1992)
Date: 22 Nov 92 17:36:47 PDT
Organization: Cryogenic Software - Portland, OR


>      Jim, does this mean that you are working on a video driver for  
> EMplant and OpalVision?  If so, when will it be ready?  I do plan to
> get both Emplant and Opalvision in the near future...
>      Thanks.
> 
> -Vince
> 
Yes, we're working on new video drivers now.


Jim Drew - Vice President, Utilities Unlimited, Inc.
           1641 McCulloch Blvd. Suite #25-124
           Lake Havasu City, AZ  86403
           (602) 680-9004     (602) 680-9006 FAX    (602) 453-9767 BBS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Cyrix 486SLC
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:32:36 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

ins739l@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (William Fang) writes:

>I've seen a lot a posts about the Golden Gate 486 board and thought I'd do
>a bit of digging to find out a bit more about the Cyrix 486SLC chips.

>Here's a edited copy of a posting that I dug up.

>I hope this helps.

>Regards,

>Jim Fang

Jim,

	The problem is Vortex is using 486SLC, not the 486DLC you mentioned
in the article...

:(

Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin
e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu

PS: the 486DLC is a pure 32bit cpu, whereas the 486SLC is a 32/16bit cpu.
From: jharris@cup.portal.com (John D Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: The Emplant Ordeal.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 18:08:27 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <92324.025122DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu> <69895@cup.portal.com>
  <1992Nov20.080044.29071@netcom.com>

>Other than being hideously slow, this is simply untrue.  The 68000 exception
>frame is unrecoverable due to a bug in the initial design.  That bug was
>not corrected until the 68010.  Early Motorola based UNIX workstations used
>two 68000's, one running an instruction behind the other, to recover from
>a trap.  Obviously that would be impossible with the Amiga.
>
I'm not calling your statement false, but I don't understand it.  Debuggers
use the processor exceptions.  It seems like in the same way a debugger
would flag an address error or illegal instruction, a program could just
'fix' them.  The first release of the game Hard Drivin' would keep getting
divide by zero exceptions, and it had a built in monitor that would display
these exceptions and allow you to press the mouse button to continue.  I
just changed the exception handler to leave the original value in the
register and simply keep running the program.  In effect, the divide by zero
problem is now transparent.

I'm probably missing something here.  Is the effect different when running
in supervisor mode?

Some of the validity of this point is already undermined by recent
statements from Jim saying that he was instead trying to patch the Mac OS to
allow for 68000 operation.
>
>IMHO, if you want a Mac, you should buy a Mac.  I don't understand the
>obsession with emulators.  AMax bored me to tears.
>
Well, I'd love to be able to make developers write wonderful Amiga
productivity software, but the fact is that certain applications have no
good Amiga software, and emulation is easier and cheaper than buying another
machine, (especially a Mac II), or writing the application myself.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: papo@pyuxf.uucp (25241-anaya)
Subject: PC-Task does'nt emulate MathCad 
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 01:59:38 GMT
Summary: I does'nt work 

I'll keep it brief.  I tried the Demo version of PC-Task and, it ran
my text app fine.  However I tried to run MathCad and I got a weird screen.
Can the non-demo version run MathCad?????



Regards,

 
 __o__
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|     |__ This message comes from an OVERWORKED, OVERLOOKED and OVERDRAWN
| []  |_| but still basically fun person.
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From: gcl0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (GEORGE C. LIN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: EMPLANT NEWS
Date: 16 Nov 92 04:29:03 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Nov15.203540.23652@sbcs.sunysb.edu>, mrubino@libws1.ic.sunysb.ed
u (Michael N Rubino) writes:
>In article <1992Nov15.034258.57087@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> gcl0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (G
EORGE C. LIN) writes:

>>I think after a week or so, he then made a post about how he/they will follow
>>the 2.0 OS guideline to make everybody happy... I GUESS NOT...
>>
>>I wish I had captured those lies from a few months ago...
>
>
>It is possible to simulate the 2.0 look and feel under 1.3 and thus follow
>the C= Style Guide.
>
>- Mike

I'm sure 2.0 didn't "look" like the guru screens and make the user "feel" like
they've been ripped off... heheheh... sorry, couldn't resist...

--GL--
Organization: Junior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:44:01 -0500 
From: Chee Leong Lee <cl3a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Emplant news..


Just talked to a guy called 'Joe' on the phone at UU.  He said there
will be a new bundle of software for Emplant to be uploaded to the UU
bboard tonite.  Those with a modem, can you pleeeeeze check out the new
software and upload it to wuarchive for those who do not have a modem??

Thanks.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:50:11 EST
From: <DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Can EMPLANT emulate an A4000
 <92316.135017DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <ALANB.92Nov12105057@swordfish.sdl.mdcbbs.com>

In article <ALANB.92Nov12105057@swordfish.sdl.mdcbbs.com>, alanb@sdl.mdcbbs.com
(Alan Braggins) says:

>>>>>> On Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:50:17 EST, <DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu> said:

>> In article <1992Nov11.160940.1126@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>,
>> vhansen@ipfs.bau-verm.uni-karlsruhe.de (Wolfgang von Hansen) says:

>People who want to test their code will work on an '040 running AmigaDos3.0,
>who can't afford an A4000, and don't mind doing final testing at a 10th the
>speed of a real A4000?

How much are these people willing to pay? Considering that it will take a
year of hard work, somebody's got to come up with $50,000. Unless you can find
someone to work for free (HA!). I think you'll find the real thing to be much
cheaper.

Sorry to be so glum in this newsgroup of True Believers...
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From: kopnicky@owlnet.rice.edu (Lyle Warren Kopnicky)
Subject: Re: A4000 PCTask Demo Results
Organization: Rice University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:59:18 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.012407.24582@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au>, davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn) writes:
|> So, I want to sell my setup and get an A4000.  I'd prefer to sell the 2286 as
|> well, so I get a little bit more money.  So, I'll need a software-only PC
|> emulator for the A4000, which can run most PC software, which emulates at least
|> a 286 (rather than an XT) at a reasonable speed while multitasking within
|> AmigaOS.  It would be nice if it could use AGA to emulate a VGA display, too.
|> 
|> Does such a thing exist?  If so, I'll buy one.  If not, will AGA support be
|> added to any current, software-only, products?  I hope so!
|> 
|> >Skip Sauls, Amiga Advocate
|> >skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> David Meiklejohn (also known as davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au)
|>  - Regional support guy for PC's, Unix, and networks thereof.
|>  - But I'd rather be using an AMIGA!  Wouldn't you?
|> Find me in Mareeba, Australia (on the pointy bit in the northeast)

It seems likely that AGA support will be added to some software-based
PC emulators soon.  However be aware that although they are as fast as
an AT machine when run on the A4000, they still emulate an 8086, not a
286, so you can't have things like expanded memory.  They may be
working on this too, however.  I only hope that extending the command
set to that of a 286 doesn't slow it down even more.  I don't suspect
it will slow down noticably if it's done properly.
	The nice thing is that 256 colors under AGA is as fast as 4
colors on ECS due to the 4X bandwidth, not to mention if you use the
CPU for some blitting tasks.

+----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+
| "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the   |
| cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's |
| why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets      |
| loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!"  |
+--------------- Quantum Seep -- kopnicky@owlnet.rice.edu ---------------+
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From: jepaul@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Darth Jason)
Subject: HP PaintJet driver for A-max
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:12:21 GMT

Does anyone have or know where to get the Hewlett Packard Paint Jet printer driver to be used with A-max?  I am getting tired of not being able to print anything.



Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:48:08 -0500 
From: Michael Witbrock <mjw+@cs.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: ATonce Plus & the A1200
	<1992Nov17.193331.17219@hubcap.clemson.edu>

Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.amiga.emulations: 17-Nov-92 Re: ATonce
Plus & the A1200 Charles E Rick T. IV@hub (559)

> + "Every Girl Already Has A Boyfriend" --- Murphy's Law Of Dating...         +

Nonsense... 


...some of them Already Have Girlfriends.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: dtiberio@csws19.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Subject: Re: The Emplant Ordeal.
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:38:03 GMT

In article <tpang.722085832@sfu.ca> tpang@fraser.sfu.ca (Tsui Ting Debbie Pang) writes:

>>>I just feel UU has been dishonest in shipping out a non-working
>>>product.

>I think it is better late than 'non-working when shipped'. I have never

	A1000


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From: tww2568@venus.tamu.edu (WEEKS, THOMAS WILLIAM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: GVP Emulators
Date: 23 Nov 1992 12:12 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Does anyone know of GVP/Vortex putting out a 386SX emulator as opposed to the
present 286 emulator?

Thomas Weeks


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