From: bcash@crchh410.BNR.CA (Brian Cash)
Subject: Re: Ok, truce?
Reply-To: bcash@crchh410.BNR.CA (Brian Cash)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 02:26:44 GMT

Sure.

As far as a.a not being a decent forum for serious discussions,
I agree (somewhat...information CAN get through sometimes) but
that is due to the anarchist nature of a.a being a free form
forum that gets input from both sides of a contriversial issue.
Any newgroup that does that will be chaotic.  For a 
decent forum for serious discussions one can turn to
alt.atheism.moderated (*yawn*) and in a calm, cool manner
talk about whatever you want (I think you can be theist there,
it's just moderated against the "Repent or Fry!" types.)

I think you have the misfortune of being at the tail end of
a line of theists that seemed to have the reasoning of
wicker furniture (see "Repent or Fry!" above) that
made alot of the atheists here very defensive about their
beliefs.  I can't (and won't) promise that the flames will
stop (see below), but it is just something that one has
to take in stride when entering the war zone.

ObFlames:

>Yes, I am a Christian.  No, I am not a Bible-basher.  If I seem to be, then 
>I apologize and accept your flames, and I will try to better myself.

No, no, no.  WE are Bible-bashers, YOU are Bible-_thumpers_!

>I did not try to imply that all atheists are me-ists.  I got going about me-
>ism (which, by the way, IS rampant in NA, as seen by certain best-selling 
>books which I STUPIDLY have forgotten the titles of but I will get back to 
>you... anyway...)

Very PC of you to point out how NA is me-ist, but not to mention the
rest of the world.

>I've 
>printed out the BOB thing and am going to share it with my Christian 
>friends, who I'm sure will also find it funny.  We can laugh at ourselves.  
>If you can't laugh at yourself, then you should take a close look at what 
>you think you're doing...

What! No Colleen! I'm hurt.  The Cult of the Sub-Genious has some
books out (humor section).

I have a GREAT bit off of a Monty-Python album that I will post up
next year.  Keep an eye out!  {Atheist-bashing}

>In the future, I shall try to keep my posts 
>less biting and generalistic and insinuating, and more realistic and open 

Wait!  Doesn't that go against something in our FAQ?

>then please, flame me

Moi!?! Never!

>until I learn how to say what I mean without 
>insulting anybody.

HA! Good luck!

>I promise I do read it all, and I do think about all of it.

Most people only do the first part, but whatever rocks your boat...

>I believe in that truth-type #1 somebody described.  I will not forcibly 
>state that the truth as I believe it is undoubtedly that Truth.  However, 
>that does not change the fact that there _can_ only be one Truth, by its 
>very nature, whatever it is.  If the Truth is that there are many little 
>truths, then that is still the Truth.

I have given up on this thread, as I see little truth behind it.

See ya'll in '93

Brian /-|-\
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The Truth is still the Truth 
even if you choose to ignore it.
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PS  I took out the Biblical ref to this quote,
    because (on investigation) I could not
    find this in all of John (KJV and NIV)
    Where did this come from?