HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bokil@seas.smu.edu (Amol Bokil)
Subject: KK, Rafi, Mukesh
Organization: School of Engineering and Applied Science
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:17:16 GMT


>What about 'Amar Akbar Anthony'? I believe all three sang,
>Unhoni ko honi kar de...
>
>-Saumyen
>
>PS: I may be wrong though.

The above mentioned song was sung by KK, Shailendra Singh, and Mahendra Kapoor.

The song "Dekh-ke tumko dil bolaa hai..." was sung by KK, Rafi, Mukesh, and 
Lata.

Amol




Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: ramesh@pascal.eng.ohio-state.edu (Krishnamurthy Ramesh)
Subject: Re: Carnatic music on Guitar
Organization: The Ohio State University, Dept of Electrical Engineering
Distribution: usa 
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:07:34 GMT

i would be interested if any one has a recording of his music.

ragards

ramesh 

Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: NEED HELP IN IDENTIFYING MUSICIAN
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 15:20:50 GMT

Sounds like L. Shankar to me. He has tabla (usually Zakir) plus
other musicians. Some of his ECM stuff has other jazz musicians such as
Jan Garbarek.

It could also be Trilok Gurtu's Living Magic. Trilok plays tabla and
drums, and has Jan Garbarek and a few other musicians, including a 
Veena player. Excellent album. Stay away from his first album Usefret.
From: sik@grosz.esd.sgi.com (Seth Katz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Concerts in Bay Area?
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:30:44 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA, USA

Hi

Does anyone know of upcoming Indian Classical
concerts of note in the San Francisco Bay Area?

I don't suppose we have any avid India Currents
readers who would like to occasionally post a list
of upcoming concerts?

Thanks,
Seth
From: krishnan@ds1.scri.fsu.edu (Balasubramanian)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Re: Carnatic music on Guitar
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:32:42 GMT
Reply-To: krishnan@ds1.scri.fsu.edu (Balasubramanian)
Organization: SCRI, Florida State University

>I would like to know if somebody out there plays Carnatic music on the
>Spanish guitar or knows someone who does.I can play a few geethams and
........
........
>but none on the Spanish guitar.Is it at all possible to play Carnatic music on
>the Spanish guitar or are some modifications to the instrument necessary ?

Sukumar Prasad plays Carnatic music on the guitar with surprising skill
and dexterity. It is my understanding that he uses a Spanish guitar and
is one of the pioneers in the use of the guitar in Carnatic music. I
have had the pleasure of listening to him in person, and I believe he
handles the gamakhas comfortably. I do not know if he made adjustments
to his guitar. I have a (poor) recording during an informal session 
he had with his friends and would be willing to copy it on a blank
tape for you.

                         Krishnan

P.S. My music teacher conveyed to me that
he would have become quite famous, but his only 
performance at the Music Academy was not received well by Subbudu, the
"Indian Express" critic. 

--
********************************************************************
  B. Krishnan                        Department of Physics and SCRI
(904)-644-9755 ( off. )              Florida State University 
                                     Tallahassee FL 32306
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical,rec.music.indian.misc
From: kanga.caltech.edu!vidya (Vidyasankar Sundaresan)
Subject: Radio Program
Originator: vidya@christopher
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:44:56 GMT


The Venkateswara Temple at Malibu, Southern California  has organised a  
program which is being presented over the radio on 96.7 FM from 8 to 9  
a.m. on Saturday mornings. The program consists of renderings of the  
Venkateswara Suprabhatam and extracts from the Vedas and Upanishads and  
ends with a mangalam. The relevance of the posting in this group is due to  
the fact that in addition to the traditional recitations, the slokas and  
Vedic Suktas have also been set to music. Thus the Suprabhatam and  
Mangalam have been set as a ragamalika using Carnatic Ragas and the Vedas  
and Upanishads using Hindustani Ragas. 

Does anyone know of any previous attempt to sing the Venkatesa  
Suprabhatam? I have heard M.S.'s popular recitation, and P.B. Srinivos's  
record, but have not come across any other musical rendering of it. I am  
not sure if people all over the U.S. will be able to receive this station,  
but the West Coast should. I would like to hear comments and feedback from  
those of you who listen to it this Saturday.

S.Vidyasankar
vidya@cco.caltech.edu
From: appa@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (ravi.ramaswamy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Lalgudi concerts wanted
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:08:33 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

Folks,


  I am looking for the recording of a Lalgudi/GJR/Trichy Sankaran concert
in Washington, D.C. in 1983. This is a 2-cassette (90 min) concert of which
I have only the first part. The concert, which is well recorded, starts with
a varnam in Nalinakanthi (one of LGJ's innumerable varnams) and has an
unknown (to me) piece in Simhendramadhyamam. If somebody has this concert or
can tell me where to get it from (the concert must have been sponsored by
some organization in the DC area), I would greatly appreciate it.

  Also I went to an LGJ/GJR/Vellore Ramabhadran concert in '85 at Harvard
University. Anybody know where I can get a recording?  


Ravi
From: ananth@universe.som.cwru.edu (Ananth Srinivasan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Salem G. Desikan
Date: 3 Sep 1992 19:52:37 GMT
Organization: WSOM CSG, CWRU, Cleve. OH
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: universe.som.cwru.edu
Keywords: Carnatic music, Salem G. Desikan
X-Post-Machine: universe.som.cwru.edu

I am hoping that there is someone among the contributors to
this group who can give me information about the vocalist
Salem G. Desikan. Has anyone heard of him? Heard his music?
Better yet, anybody have a tape of his music? He died about
5 years ago and performed quite frequently on AIR programs
in Madras.

--Ananth

Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: vchandra%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (V Chandramouli)
Subject: TEST
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:51:31 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

This is a test message,as this is the first time I am posting on this news 
group.
Xref: sparky rec.music.indian.classical:1550 rec.music.indian.misc:2345
From: rsaigal@jade.tufts.edu (Ranjani Saigal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical,rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Re: Song Identifications.
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:08:20 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
Originator: rsaigal@jade.tufts.edu

In article <1992Aug28.171300.4889@cc.gatech.edu> pkohli@cc.gatech.edu (Prince Kohli) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.160949.10045@ichips.intel.com>, sbanwari@omews6.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Sunil Banwari) writes:
>|> |> (45) Saat sahiliyan khaari, khaari, baate banaye ghaari gharri, (Vidhata ?)
>
>|> Kishor in Vidhaata
>
>Wasn't this song in Sharaabi? Amitabh Bachchan singing it with his
>friends?

	I remember seeing this on chitrahar with Padmini Kolhapuri dancing
in the "Lavani" dance style. I think it was Asha was the singer. I do not 
remember the name of the movie though..

>
>Cheers
>
>-Prince

Ranjani Saigal
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Song Identifications.
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 14:31:38 GMT

Hey ! This is r.m.i.CLASSICAL !! Please post stuff about movie songs
in r.m.i.misc ONLY.
From: lkr10@cd.amdahl.com (Lakshmi Rao)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Looking for beginner sitar players
Date: 30 Aug 92 23:12:22 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


    I am thinking about taking sitar lessons at Fremont which are being
    offered there since last month. The teacher is affiliated with the
    Ali Akbar College of Music in San Rafael. I am looking for people
    who have taken classes in Fremont to get their opinion on how good
    the classes are for beginners. As I am a beginner player, I am also
    interested in getting together with a couple of people to practice
    on a regular basis.

    You can contact me by e-mail:  lkr10@cd.amdahl.com
                           phone:  (408) 746-8507.

    Peace,
    Lakshmi.
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: keivjam@elof.iit.edu (James Keivom)
Subject: NEED HELP IN IDENTIFYING MUSICIAN
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 21:57:49 GMT

I really need help.  A friend presented a tape marked "South Indian Music" to
me as a gift.  I liked it so much that I would like to buy the original tape/
CD.  A distinguishing feature of this musician is that he combines the 
sound of the saxophone with traditional Indian instruments such as the 
tabla.  Fast drum rhythms.  Also one piece which drags on and on for about
17 minutes, like "Tranquility" by Subramanium but it is once continous piece.
Could anyone tell me who this musician is?

Also could anyone refer me to a place where Indian instrumental music is 
available. Preferably the Chicgo area.  I would really lke to buy some
tapes.   Subramanium for example.  Thanking you inadvace

Jim

Xref: sparky rec.music.indian.classical:1523 rec.music.indian.misc:2267
From: rsaigal@jade.tufts.edu (Ranjani Saigal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical,rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Need info on a song with the National Integeration theme
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:10:37 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
Originator: rsaigal@jade.tufts.edu


	I would like to know if anyone remembers a song that was based on the
National Integration theme. Unfortunately I do not remember much of the
song, but I do remember that it described the people of all parts of India
and each stanza had a verse in each language of India -at least in a few
languages. The Tamil part had  a couple of lines from "Natanam Adinar" and
the tamil part started with "mun kudumi ". 

	Unfortunately I do not remember much more. But I do have great 
trust in the people of this group and I hope I may find out about the
song . If by any chance anyone has a copy of the song I would very much
like to get a copy.


			_Thanks

			Ranjani Saigal
 
Xref: sparky rec.music.indian.classical:1525 rec.music.indian.misc:2268
From: rsaigal@jade.tufts.edu (Ranjani Saigal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical,rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Need info on a song with the National Integration theme
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:21:16 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
Originator: rsaigal@jade.tufts.edu


	I would like to know if anyone remembers a song that was based on the
National Integration theme. Unfortunately I do not remember much of the
song, but I do remember that it described the people of all parts of India
and each stanza had a verse in each language of India (at least in a few
languages). The Tamil part had  a couple of lines from "Natanam Adinar" and
the tamil part started with "mun kudumi ". 

	Unfortunately I do not remember much more. But I do have great 
trust in the people of this group and I hope I may find out about the
song . If by any chance anyone has a copy of the song I would very much
like to get a copy.


			_Thanks

			Ranjani Saigal
 
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: prasundi@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (Pankaj Raghavendra Asundi)
Subject: Great Master's Series
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:53:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

Hi netters;
	I am looking for the Great Masters series which was on the
net some time ago.  This information will be used by the SPIC-MACAY
OU chapter's "journal".  The articles will be refrenced correctly.
	Netters could either mail them to me directly or on the
net.  
	Thanks in advance.

Pankaj Asundi
email: prasundi@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu or
	prasundi@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu



Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: vchandra%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (V Chandramouli)
Subject: Carnatic music on Guitar
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:58:07 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

Hi,
I would like to know if somebody out there plays Carnatic music on the
Spanish guitar or knows someone who does.I can play a few geethams and
a couple of varnams as far as classical music goes and some old film songs.
My experience is that while one can always play some piece in Carnatic music,
as far as the notes alone go,but it is very difficult to play those gamakams
and microtones that make Carnatic music so pleasing to listen to.Also I find
it difficult to render "Aalaapanais".In other words,I don't find it satisfying.

Now,maybe it might be better on an electric guitar where you can sustain the 
sound.I have also listened to some good Carnatic music on the Hawaian one
but none on the Spanish guitar.Is it at all possible to play Carnatic music on
the Spanish guitar or are some modifications to the instrument necessary ?

I would be grateful if anybody could volunteer any information on this
subject.I would prefer that you send your replies (if any !) to my email:
vchandra@cs.utah.edu
Thanks,
	--Chandramouli

ps: If you have any details regarding some recordings on cassette or CD,that
will also do.
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical,rec.music.indian.misc
From: aksimha@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (Gerd Von Rundstedt)
Subject: Re: Song Identifications.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:23:39 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

In article <1992Aug28.171300.4889@cc.gatech.edu> pkohli@cc.gatech.edu (Prince Kohli) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.160949.10045@ichips.intel.com>, sbanwari@omews6.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Sunil Banwari) writes:
>|> |> (45) Saat sahiliyan khaari, khaari, baate banaye ghaari gharri, (Vidhata ?)
>
>|> Kishor in Vidhaata
>
>Wasn't this song in Sharaabi? Amitabh Bachchan singing it with his
>friends?
>
>Cheers
>
>-Prince
>

 No, It was Shammi Kapoor and Padmini Kolhapuri with Sanjay Dutt as a 
 bystander. Perhaps, one of the more obscene songs in movies!

 Arun Simha
From: pgopi@calypso.eng.uci.edu (Paramesh Gopi)
Subject: Re: To all the idiotic (film)song identifiers
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Reply-To: pgopi@calypso.eng.uci.edu (Paramesh Gopi)
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:53:21 GMT

  In article # <92246.154608GRH6@psuvm.psu.edu> Girish Harshe replies to my previous posting saying 

>   Though I can understand your 'sickness', I don't understand
>why do you have to use such a harsh language. As you have pointed
>Shiv Naimpallym has already posted a letter protesting the posting
>of letters on this net outside the interest of this group.
>
>   And by your doing so you may not change anything, since
>you have not cross posted your letter to the other group(s)
>where the original request for songs identification was posted.
>In fact if you keep your eyes open, you will see that the original
>poster had posted his request by mistake on this group, but the
>the others are only replies to his request. And perhaps they
>will not even get to see the pain of your 'sickness', since
>they may not be reading the letters posted here.
>
>     As for your problem, you can send an email to the
>original poster, so that he can realize how knowingly
>or unknowingly he has caused pains to you and people
>sharing your sentiment. I for myself, am not really
>looking forward to seeing net-wars on this group,
>because of intolerant people with an extreme approach
>such as you.
>
> Girish

  I agree that my words were caustic.  However they were caustic with due reason.  You are right, Shiv Naimpally already posted a warning telling the due parties that they should not post articles here.  However, long after he posted this warning , such articles continued to be posted here.  Apparently it had no effect.

  I suppose every single one of the people that replied the original article were making a 'mistake' in posting it 'unknowingly' to this network as well. I'm sure they were, sir!!!!  Many of the people who replied the original also subscribe to this newsgroup, I suppose none of them read this lately to see that they had made a mistake.  By your argument, people posting replies to the original even after Mr. naimpally's warning never had the presence of mind to even post one apology.
  
  Perhaps sir, if you had read the song identification articles more closely, you would have changed your mind.   They were not merely song identification articles, but also contained references to certain obscene words in Hindi Songs, etc.  I personally believe that this network is the last place where such material belongs.

  Lastly you mention 'net-wars' in your article.  I think you need to resolve yourself to the fact that the purpose of a network is discussion.   After all not everyone on a particular newsgroup are going to agree with each other.  Lest you forget, that is the purpose of a network.  It is to exchange ideas, and not all ideas may be compatible. 

Ramesh
From: sivaras@mist.CS.ORST.EDU (Sivaramapuram Subramanyam Kris)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Re: Hindusthani-Carnatic Raga Equivalent
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:56:10 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.


wow! That's a huge list of equivalents. I have my doubts about a few of these
equivalents. I'll check and if all these equivalents are correct. Anyway
thanks a lot for that list, saumyen.

Krishna

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
S S Krishna 

Deptt of Computer Science
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: rashid@sana.bellcore.com (Rashid Ansari)
Subject: Re: raag equivalents
Organization: Morristown Research and Engineering
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 22:12:01 GMT

Is Brindavani Sarang same in both Hindusthani and Carnatic?
I remember listening to a Carnatic piece by M.S.Subbalaxmi
in Brindavani Sarang.
From: noykman%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Nathan Dykman)
Subject: Looking for Tabla music
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:56:11 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

I am Looking for a wide cross-section of Tabla music recordings which represent
the best in Indian tabla playing. Also, any suggestions on how to play the
tabla(Don't laugh, I'm trying to find a teacher.) would be helpful. 


Many thanks,

Nathan Dykman

(noykman@peruvian.utah.edu)
From: pm@isds.duke.edu (Peter Mueller)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: dance teacher in RDU
Date: 23 Aug 92 22:03:23 GMT
Distribution: usa

does anybody know about a baratnatyam (sp?) dance teacher in the
area raleigh/durham/chapel hill?

please send e-mail to "pm@isds.duke.edu" 
thanks 
peter
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical,rec.music.indian.misc
From: jasjit@terminus.gatech.edu (Jasjit Singh)
Subject: Re: Song Identifications.
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:10:18 GMT

>>|> Kishor in Vidhaata
>>
> No, It was Shammi Kapoor and Padmini Kolhapuri with Sanjay Dutt as a 
> bystander. Perhaps, one of the more obscene songs in movies!

It was certainly a cheap song with double meanings, but was nothing
if you compare it with the creations of Dada Kondke!

>
> Arun Simha
>

Jasjit


---------------------------------------------------------------
Jasjit Singh              jasjit@cc.gatech.edu

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one ..."
          [ Spock in "The Wrath of Khan" ]
Xref: sparky rec.music.indian.classical:1551 soc.culture.indian:29713
From: kgh@ulysses.att.com (Krishna G. Hegde[jgr])
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Violin Concert in New Jersey
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:35:31 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Murray Hill, NJ, USA



                      The Indian Academy of Performing Arts


                                    presents

                                 Violin Concert by 

                               Shree D. K. Datar  

                           Accompanied by Vijay Ghate


                         on Saturday October 3, 1992, 8.00 pm
             
                         at Food & Science Auditorium 
                            Cook College Campus, Rutgers Univ
                            New Brunswick, New Jersey

                 Contribution:  Members $12     Non-members $15
                                Students $7(with proper ID)


        Pandit D.K.Datar is currently considered to be one of the leading
        violin virtuosos in Hindustani music.  Initiated by his elder brother
        Pandit Narayanrao Datar, D K Datar developed his current "gayaki"
        style under Pandit Vighneshwar Shastri of the B R Deodhar School.
        Perhaps he is best known as the accompanist to Pandit D V Paluskar
        on many of his concert tours and recordings.  After his successful 
        concert tours of Japan, UK and othe rcountries in Europe in the 
        past, D K Datar will be on his first North American tour.


        FOR INFORMATION:  Krisha   908-821-7251   Sudhir  908-297-4787
                          Shripad  201-895-7307



        DIRECTIONS: From NJTP to exit 9, to Rte 18 North, to Rte 1 South.
        One mile on Rte ! South, make a right turn on College Farm Road.
        Follow to Rutgers Cook Campus to a four-way stop sign; right to 
        Food Science Auditorium.  Parking on both sides.
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: keivjam@elof.iit.edu (James Keivom)
Subject: PLEASE HELP ME IDENTIFY AN ALBUM!!!!!
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 15:06:02 GMT

<I really need help.  A friend presented a tape marked "South Indian Music" to
me as a gift.  I liked it so much that I would like to buy the original tape/
CD.  A distinguishing feature of this musician is that he combines the 
sound of the saxophone with traditional Indian instruments such as the 
tabla.  Fast drum rhythms.  Also one piece which drags on and on for about
17 minutes, like "Tranquility" by Subramanium but it is once continous piece.
Could anyone tell me who this musician is?

Also could anyone refer me to a place where Indian instrumental music is 
available. Preferably the Chicgo area.  I would really lke to buy some
tapes.   Subramanium for example.  Thanking you inadvace>

this is a followup to the first message.  My friend tells me that the guy on the sax is Shankar
though not Ravi Shankar.  He recorded it in the U.S. with another guy but the album
is issued on a French record label.  The albums are "Visions" and "Songs for Everyone"

Can anyone help me?

Thanks

Jim