Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 01:11:34 EST
From: gaynet@gallifrey.kent.edu
Reply-To: gaynet@gallifrey.kent.edu
Subject: GayNet Digest Volume 11 Issue 7
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.gaynet

In this issue:
                              Celebrations
                 Is this for real? / ballot initiatives
                       Gaynet "reception report"
                         GLAAD: The Crying Game
                              subcription
                    GayNet Digest Volume 11 Issue 5
                         register or subscribe?
                    GayNet Digest Volume 11 Issue 5
                           Gay TV and Clinton

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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 93 14:35:17 CST
From: T Pennycuff <TPENNYC3@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Subject:      Celebrations

What a joy to come into work today and find Gaynet back up and running.
This is really a day to celebrate, first full day of Clinton's administration,
Headline News mentions today that Defense Secretary Aspin is expected to
over-rule the ban on Gays and Lesbians either today or the next few days,
and Gaynet back on line.
"Spring" is really here.

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From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: Is this for real? / ballot initiatives
Distribution: local
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:25:41 GMT

HARKINS@Butler.EDU writes:

>So. Are we back for real this time? Let's hope...

>Newsweek listed 11 states which will try the Colorado shenanigans soon
>(sorry, can't remember offhand which ones right now). We definitely
>need to organize. I remember reading on the 'net about a colorado-2
>mailing list? Is that still active? Would that be an appropriate place
>to share info about this and organize nationally? Does anyone out there
>have the addresses?

Yes, the amend2-info list is up. There is also an amend2-discuss list:

amend2-discuss: amend2-discuss@cs.colorado.edu
amend2-info: amend2-info@cs.colorado.edu

>It's good to be back...				James

Sure is! Congratulations, Perkins!

I'll try and get those 11 states names from NEWSWEEK and post.

-
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735.  ``D.C. in 93!''
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
"Yes, you can get AIDS from a mosquito...*IF* you have unprotected
receptive anal intercourse with an infected mosquito..." -- Randy Shilts

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 11:12:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Loren Meissner <lmeissne@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Gaynet "reception report"
Mime-Version: 1.0

Please do not be offended. This is not a  "flame" or criticism,
just a status report. It is also a test to see if stuff sent from here
gets posted on gaynet.

Here at the University of Washington (Seattle), this morning saw
the first issues of Gaynet arrive by direct subscription for
almost a month, including the status report from Mr. Perkins,
which I read (Thanks, John).

We (here at UW) are still not receiving gaynet via usenet.

Could people at other locations post similar "reception reports,"
so that I can find out if the usenet situation is a "local" (UW) or a global
(Usenet) issue? Thanks.

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Subject: GLAAD: The Crying Game
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:38:04 EST
From: Ron Buckmire <buckmr@rpi.edu>

GLAAD/LA Reports
February '93 Issue
Carl Matthes, Editor
(213) 254-2726 - FAX (213) 257-5878


An intriguing movie...
"The Crying Game"

  One of the most interesting and intriguing movies of the year
  must be "The Crying Game."  ("The movie everyone is talking
  about, but no one is giving away its secrets.") This Neil
  Jordan written and directed opus presents a sophisticated
  story, populated by a cast of well-drawn characters, that
  holds the attention and fires the imagination.  Using one of
  the world's longest unresolved conflicts as its backdrop --
  the armed conflict in Northern Ireland -- Mr. Jordan manages
  to weave a story of romance and intrigue that is both
  unpredictable and believable.  Stephen Rea, Miranda Richardson
  and newcomer Jaye Davidson carry the honors for this inclusive
  '90s film.  That more of the story is not revealed here,
  should serve as your invitation to see this film and then send
  your comments to: Neil Jordan, c/o ICM-Duncan Heath, Oxford
  House, 76 Oxford Street, London W1R 1RB, England.



---
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735. ``BOYCOTT COLORADO!''
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
"Wouldn't it be wonderful to have a cure for AIDS in the marketplace before
Magic Johnson gets AIDS?" --Vice-President J. Danforth Quayle 11/13/91 on CNN.

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 19:12:06 EST
From: USER7HL6@um.cc.umich.edu
X-Mts-Userid: 7HL6
Subject: subcription

Please unsubscribe me. Thanx.

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Date: 21 Jan 93 19:19:00 EST
From: "Tim Wilkerson                " <WILK@wittenberg.edu>
Subject: RE: GayNet Digest Volume 11 Issue 5

Please discontinue my subscription.  Thanks,

Tim Wilkerson
Wittenberg University

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From: FRN@ucsvax.ucs.umass.edu (FRANROSE@MGMT.UMASS.EDU)
Subject: register or subscribe?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 02:42:04 GMT
Organization: UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS - AMHERST
Distribution: world
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

hi,

	I'm very new to internet and this whole business,
but i see your listing in the news and have no access,
because you are moderated?  Can I get access to your
postings?

thanks,
Fran
franrose@mgmt.umass.edu

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:05:22 -0800
From: mdemerit@cymbal.calpoly.edu
Subject: Re:  GayNet Digest Volume 11 Issue 5

I am damned glad to see gaynet up and running again.

Thanks to you Perkins.  I rely on gaynet for political
action needed and media alerts.  MUCH less so for Madonna
bickering, etc.

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Date: 22 Jan 93 00:41:35 EST
Subject: Gay TV and Clinton
From: An Anonymous Sender

On Friday's Donahue show will focus on the Colorado Boycott (if aired on
or after 4pm Eastern).

The Jenny Jones show will also focus on the Gay community on Friday.

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President-elect Clinton is undecided on how to
end the ban on gays in the military but one possibility being
weighed would meet the goal without a promised executive order,
aides said Wednesday.
   Gay activists generally favor the executive order, saying such
a strong gesture may be needed to get the job done. Omitting the
order, however, could head off pressure from military leaders who
support the ban, aides say.
   Under one of several alternatives being considered, Clinton
would dispense with the executive order and instead issue written
orders to the secretary of defense to eliminate the ban on gays in
the military.
   "It is Clinton wiggling, waffling and wavering out of his
commitment to sign an executive order to repeal the ban on gays in
the military," said Michael Petrelis, spokesman for the
Washington-based group Queer Nation.
   Clinton transition aides sought to damp any suggestion that he
was backing off of his campaign promise to issue an executive
order.      "There have been no decisions made yet," said attorney
John D. Holum, who is investigating the issue for Clinton. He has
consulted with gay and military leaders on the issue and will make
recommendations to Clinton.
   Clinton said in his campaign that he would lift the ban and got
about 70 percent of the gay vote. He has sounded cautious since the
election: Opposed to the ban but promising to consult with military
leaders on how to drop it.
   His campaign literature promised to lift the ban with an
executive order, a powerful tool used by President Truman to
achieve racial integration in the military.
   "We're primarily concerned that the ban end, and we'd prefer an
executive order because Bill Clinton made that pledge during the
campaign and it would send a direct signal to the military that the
commander-in-chief wants to end the discrimination," said Gregory
King, spokesman for the Human Rights Campaign Fund, which calls
itself the nation's largest gay political group.
   A transition official speaking on condition of anonymity
confirmed that under one option Clinton would issue written
instructions to Secretary of Defense-designate Les Aspin, directing
him to remove the ban and drop pending investigations of suspected
gays in the military.
   Aspin also would be told to make sure that recruits are no
longer asked about their sexual preference, under this option,
which was first reported on Friday by The Los Angeles Times.
   Some Clinton advisers believe that an executive order is not
needed to repeal the ban, although a top aide said the order
"carries a higher degree of visibility" than written instructions
to the defense secretary.
   Bypassing the executive order may alleviate some of the
opposition Clinton would face from military leaders if the ban is
lifted, aides say.


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Hours after Bill Clinton is sworn into office,
some 1,500 people will attend the first-ever gay and lesbian
inaugural ball, a celebration of what the gay community sees as a
new era of inclusion in American society.
   Gay leaders say Clinton got more than 70 percent of the gay
vote, and perhaps no group has higher expectations of change when
the new administration takes office Jan. 20.
   "It marks a turning point, and I call it a rite of passage,"
said Robert Bray of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, a
sponsor of the inaugural gala at the National Press Club. "We're
going from political outsider and social pariah to part of the
governing coalition of our nation."
   Gays look to Clinton for support in three areas -- an end to the
ban on gays in the military, federal protection of their civil
rights and a greater government role in the fight against AIDS.
They also expect to see more openly gay and lesbian people in high
government jobs.
   So far, they say, the signs are good. About 15 members of the
transition staff are openly gay, and the Clinton people "are
seeking out our views and providing us an opportunity to have
input," said Gregory King, spokesman for Human Rights Campaign
Fund, the largest gay advocacy group.
   On Jan. 19, the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund, which supports
gays running for political office, will honor David Mixner, a gay
Los Angeles corporate consultant and Clinton friend who helped
shape the president-elect's policies toward gays.
   Among the Clinton heavies expected to attend are Secretary of
State-designate Warren Christopher, Secretary of Commerce-designate
Ron Brown, senior strategist James Carville and transition
communications director George Stephanopoulos.
   Bray noted that Clinton mentioned the fight against AIDS only 26
seconds into his acceptance speech on Nov. 3. King recalled
Clinton's call to the family of Ricky Ray, the 15-year-old
Sarasota, Fla., boy who recently died of AIDS, leaving two
hemophiliac brothers with the disease. Clinton has invited the
family to the inauguration.      "People feel they've come out of
the darkness of the last 12 years" of the Reagan-Bush
administrations, said Bob Hattoy, an AIDS-infected man who spoke at
the Democratic National Convention last summer and now is on the
Clinton transition team.
   Clinton supports appointment of an AIDS czar and full funding
for the Ryan White Care Act, which distributes federal money to
cities to combat AIDS. He said he would sign an executive order
prohibiting discrimination in federal employment, contracts and
government services.
   He does not believe gay and lesbian couples should be allowed to
marry and receive the legal and tax benefits available to
heterosexual spouses. He also opposes job quotas or affirmative
action plans to make up for past discrimination.

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