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From: dab@ism.isc.com (David A. Butterfield)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Vending Machines
Date: 30 Jul 1992 22:51:46 GMT
Organization: x
NNTP-Posting-Host: change

In article <1992Jul30.210556.9542@spool.cs.wisc.edu> slv@camembert.cs.wisc.edu (Scott L. Vandenberg) writes:
>Vending machine peeves have been welling up inside me for the last
>few months and now they've reached critical mass.

Our BDVM has two sections, one for candy and chips (no, not French (Belgian)
fries -- potato (potatoe) chips), and one for soft drinks.  The soft drink
cans hide behind opaque pieces of plastic containing labels, each with the
name of the supposedly concealed soft drink.  Another feature of this machine
is that it accepts both coins and dollar bills.

Peeve:  If you put in a dollar bill and then decide you don't want to
buy anything after all, the machine refuses to return the bill.

Peeve:  There's no way to tell whether your favorite or even not-so-
favorite soft drinks are *really* lurking behind those opaque plastic
doors, since this BDVM has no "sold out" lights for them.  If you put
in money and your drink selection is sold out, it then beeps and
flashes "make another selection" at you.

DoublePeeve:  The upshot is that this machine takes your money, and
*then* tells you that it doesn't have your drink, and *then* refuses
to return your money.  At that point you can abandon your dollar or
resort to buying a package of greasy junk food and maybe get some coins
back.

Grrrrrrr...
-- 
	  Only resort to the Rules when absolutely necessary.
From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Drug testing and welfare
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Date: 30 Jul 1992 18:29:49 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Menlo Park, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: purplehaze.corp.sun.com



In article <5647@catnip.berkeley.ca.us> dre@catnip.berkeley.ca.us 
(I would like to return this TOBACCONIST; it is scratched) writes:

>Well, I'll say it for her:
>	execute people who are on welfare for more than say, 6 weeks


Come, come now; that's a bit extreme, don't you think?  I propose
surgically sterilizing anyone who suckles at the public teat for
more than, say, six months out of five years.  But let `em live.



Geoff


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From: egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Bike Helmets
Keywords: bikes, safety, law
Date: 31 Jul 92 09:45:52 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <40341@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk> Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford) writes:
=>And lo, tjc@castle.ed.ac.uk (A J Cunningham) spake unto the masses saying:
=>>
=>> He was showing the driver of the bus what a fuckwit he was. Drivers who
=>> hassle cyclists deserve to be shown that they're not the only people on
=>> the road and if they insist on acting like complete arseholes they'll be
=>> treated that way.
=>
=>Sure, impede the driver or give him in finger, but by stopping dead like
=>that (he was only about a couple of metres in front of the bus when he did
=>so) he was a) endangering his own life (up to him, I guess) and more
=>importantly endangering all those on the bus (fortunately I got away with a
=>minor bruise to my forehead caused by it hitting the chair in front). 

Blame the bus driver - he shouldn't have been tailgating the cyclist!!



-- 
-Jeremy Henderson        egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk   

(or am I?)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Self-serve gas stations
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:01:36 GMT
Organization: Holy Order of Quadra 950 Lust

In article <5645@catnip.berkeley.ca.us> dre@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (I would like to return this TOBACCONIST; it is scratched) writes:
>hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Jul24.192834.23276@spool.cs.wisc.edu> slv@camembert.cs.wisc.edu (Scott L. Vandenberg) writes:
>
>>>In short, why the hell do we have to stand there and hold the damn
>>>handle?  Why have they disabled the mechanism used to keep it pumping?
>
>>It's a method used to differentiate between BDIs and People-Who-Think-
>>Of-Using-Their-Gas-Cap-To-Hold-The-Handle-Up-While-They-Do-Something-
>>More-Meaningful-With-Their-Lives. Guess which one *you* are.
>
>Gee, Dan, if you're so smart, why don't you enlighten us about
>the pumps where the handles don't go up far enough in order to stuff
>the gas cap into them?

Oh that's right, make Dan solve all the world's problems. See if *he* cares...

Big thoughts here, 'drew. Close your eyes for a moment and think to yourself,
"I want to put something in there that will hold the handle up." Good. Now
open your eyes and look for something that will do the trick. Maybe using
your gas cap top-to-bottom instead of sideways will do the trick. Maybe
there's a handy rock nearby. Use the head of the squeegie from the next
pump island over. Use your tire pressure indicator thingie. Use your brain.

-- 
Dan Hillman                  "If all the poetry and nonsense that have been
hillman@carina.unm.edu       discharged upon the bland scenery of this region
University of New Mexico     region were collected in a book, it would make
Land of Enchantment          a most valuable volume to burn."--Samuel Clemens
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Subject: Re: BDI: Who/what is it?
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 00:11:41 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.153219.1@gumby.mgi.com> thompson@gumby.mgi.com writes:
>I gave it a shot. I read about a hundred articles and searched in vain
>for a FAQ list. OK, I give up. What is a BDI?

You, apparently.

   don

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From: Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Bike Helmets
Keywords: bikes, safety, law
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:10:38 GMT
Reply-To: Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford)
Organization: Penicuik People's Revolutionary Sheepdog Liberation Front

And lo, tjc@castle.ed.ac.uk (A J Cunningham) spake unto the masses saying:
>
> He was showing the driver of the bus what a fuckwit he was. Drivers who
> hassle cyclists deserve to be shown that they're not the only people on
> the road and if they insist on acting like complete arseholes they'll be
> treated that way.

Sure, impede the driver or give him in finger, but by stopping dead like
that (he was only about a couple of metres in front of the bus when he did
so) he was a) endangering his own life (up to him, I guess) and more
importantly endangering all those on the bus (fortunately I got away with a
minor bruise to my forehead caused by it hitting the chair in front). By
doing so and then running straight through a red light, he only proved that
he was an even bigger fuckwit than the driver was. Do you consider cyclists
to be exempt from obeying traffic lights or do you believe that having been
harassed by a motorist somehow entitles cyclists to break the law?

--
		Not Al Crawford - Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk
     "The water shines/A sheepdog skips across the face/A dozen times"
From: dab@ism.isc.com (David A. Butterfield)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Drug testing and welfare
Date: 30 Jul 1992 22:57:16 GMT
Organization: x
NNTP-Posting-Host: change

cs226a030@husky1.stmarys.ca writes:
>doing drugs is wrong because it's against the law

Peeve:  People who think some law defines what's right and wrong.  It
	doesn't.  The law defines what's legal and illegal, and doesn't
	even do that very well.

-- 
                  The U.S. constitution has its flaws,
          but it's a damn sight better than what we have now!
From: JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu (Jenni Sheehey)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Newbie Alert!
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:47:07 GMT
 <92209.132614CEG112@psuvm.psu.edu> <1992Jul28.121519.1354@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu>
Organization: Penn State University

sac@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu says:
>In article <92209.132614CEG112@psuvm.psu.edu>, CEG112@psuvm.psu.edu commits
>a potentially immolating act:
[not particularly imaginitive peeving deleted]
>
>I almost hesitate to respond to this infantile attempt at peeving. It sounds
>like jenni's little 9 year old bro got a hold of her passcode while visiting
>her at the dorm.

Peeve: being held responsible for all 1000+ people on PSUVM.

>By the way, does anyone else have the sense that jenni is the "Dan Quayle"
>of alt,peeves... or is it just me.

Well, if you mean that as: "A person who, for some reason (Me: being
from PSUVM, DQ: being generally not too bright) ends up being a target
for unimaginative people who take parts of what they say out of context
and ridicule them regardless of the merit of the ideas behind them,"
I guess I can see the parallel.

FreeFact: Most people polled in all of the radio polls by major stations
agreed with Dan Quayle that a child is better off with both parents.

People generally agree that what is done in Hollywood affects what is done
in the rest of the country.  Har har har, what what a stupid point he was
trying to make.

Peeve: People who don't consider anything *but* the source.

                                                 --Jenni
Newsgroups: alt.brother-jed
From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: No posts?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 22:43:12 GMT

I guess our favorite preachers don't annoy anyone during the summer...

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From: beowulf@wam.umd.edu (amealuh)
Subject: Re: No posts?
Summary: eep! 
Organization: organized?
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:30:12 GMT

In article <Bryv4E.63u@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:
>I guess our favorite preachers don't annoy anyone during the summer...
>

either that or else not enough of us are taking summer classes at
the right time. that is, if there is a right time to take them.

instead, i'm getting flack for making a relatively harmless post
to soc.college about classes. teach me to find a college student
with a sense of humour. :-)

beo


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From: peregrin@husc13.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: love  or gibberish?
Date: 24 Jul 92 11:56:04 EDT
Organization: Harvard Business School

In article <1992Jul24.054452.18502@newsroom.utas.edu.au>, u924185@postoffice.utas.edu.au writes:
> Hi all,
> 
> This is my first posting to this news group, so I'm a little shy ;-)
> 
> Why does falling love with someone transform one into a gibbering,
> half brain death, yet emotionally energised individual?
> 
> There is a young, female on campus who just fries my brain when
> I see her, but I am just terrified to walk up to her and say Hi!
> 
> I think she is just perfect, but this makes me all the more insecure
> about myself.
> 

	Well, love certainly makes you go to pieces, but I don't think
it is love yet if you haven't been able to talk to her.
	Unless it is love at first sight, which is debatable...

	As for advice, you could do the hit-and-run approach: get off
one sentence and then beat a hasty retreat.  You might think she would
think this was strange, but if you are successful, you'll end up laughing
about it afterwards.
	But I would avoid thinking she is perfect.  No one is and she is
just a human.

-James

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: shulick@yankton.ucs.indiana.edu ("sam hulick")
Subject: Re: AIDS: What the Government Isn't Telling You
Organization: Vallen Software
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:32:57 GMT

In article <24935@dog.ee.lbl.gov> Eric T. Jue <etjue@lbl.gov> writes:
>It follows from this that AIDS may be transmitted through all types
>of bodily fluids and not just through blood.

No kidding.  What do you think happens during sex, anyway?  Blood transfers?
AIDS is supposedly transferred through saliva.  One case was that a man with
AIDS was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon for spitting at someone.

-- 
Sam Hulick  ///  E-mail: shulick@indiana.edu (including NeXT mail)
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:16:20 EDT
From: <CEG112@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Thanks for the advice

Thanks so much to everyone for all the advice I have received.  I'll let you
know how things go.

Christine
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From: bcr@cernapo (Bill Riemers)
Subject: Re: Looking for advice in a problem
Organization: CERN, European Research Center for High Energy Physics
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:13:22 GMT

Sounds very strange.  Only two things make sense:
  1) She is on drugs.  (In this case aviod her.)
  2) She is playing games with you.  (In this case aviod her.)

Obcourse, things don't always have to make sense ...  I don't
know what you will decide to do, but I know in this case my
curiousity would force trap me into not following my own
advice.  Isn't love stupid...

                       Bill
From: HJ46@lafibm.lafayette.edu (Baboo (Holton, Jeffrey))
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: confused by physical contact, need advice
Date: 26 Jul 92 17:20:56 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University
Originator: news@lafcol

In article <1992Jul20.150358.20334@news2.cis.umn.edu> esper@cs35b.cs.umn.edu (Dave Sherohman) writes:
>In article <9207200248.AA05901@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> me@my.school.edu writes:
>>So what I want to ask is, should I see her again?
>
>a)  You've realized you can't be in a purely physical relationship.
>b)  She's said she can't/won't get involved in any sort of committed
>    relationship with you.
>c)  Her conduct to this point leaves her ability to maintain a platonic
>    relationship with a man (or even to start one) as questionable at best.
>
>Conclusion:  Drop her like a hot potato before you get burned.
>
>Any questions/comments?  Put 'em here or send 'em to:
>esper@ima.umn.edu

Logical conclusion.  However, we've already determined that women (and
men) are irrational in an earlier post.  Therefore, it is illogical to
assume that mathematical logic can be applied to inter-human
relationships.

haha!  so there!  :p   pppbbbbbttttt

--moi
From: daw@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Dave Webb)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: WOW!  What a weekend.....  step #2 advice needed!
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:53:47 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore

Well after finally spending my first weekend with my Long Distance SO.. all
I have to say is , "WOW"!  It was the most intense, romantic, passonate,
incredible time of my life.  I never thought I'd be able to beat St.Thomas,
in the Virgin Islands.. but this weekend in New York was the best!   We got 
along soooo great... everything was perfect!  I'm pretty certain in the way
I feel now that we have a GREAT chance of continuing this relationship.  There
are some factors involved though and this is where I need your help!  I will
be looking forward to hearing EVERYTHING you all have to say..   The situation 
is this:  RELIGION!  She is the youngest in a Jewish family and has stated that
her family (not just her mother and father, but all of her sisters and the rest
of the family) would disown her if she got involved in a relationship with a 
non-j
     ewish boy, (i.e. ME!)  Well it's too late, we're already involved and are
pretty sure of our feelings for each other.  The problem is that the fact that 
she IS seeing someone who isn't jewish will eventually come up and she will have
to deal with it!   Her family is VERY important to her and I have a feeling she
doesn't want to get into some major scene about everything.. but then again, I 
believe that we have something VERY special that she doen't want to give up 
either.  So now what?  I know there is very little I could do about this 
situation other than continue to love her and treat her good.  The decision is
going to be hers.. but I can't help but worry about things.  Right now, I'm
confident that LOVE will prevail.. but there's always that chance that it won't.Is there a chance that it won't be as BAD with her parents as she fears??  
(Maybe I could get some input from thh
                                      ose of you who are jewish?  In fact, I'd
love to hear about concerns of M

				a Jewish family.. what comes first, the
happiness of their daughter or involvement with someone of the same faith?)  I'dconsider converting to Judiasm, but I havn't looked that seriously into it and 
she doesn't want me to do that for her.  I figure there's nothing I wouldn't do
for her and more importantly for us.  Anyway, that's the situation.  We're 

really not worrying about things now.. but it IS in the back of our minds. For
now, we are just enm
		   joying  the time we have together.  Please, e-mail me with
your thoughts on this subject in hopes of lessening my worry.  The other concern
we have is now 22
		that we've had a wonderful weekend together.. we'll be missing 
each other more!  What can we do to lessen the burden of the distance between
us?  I know that it's probably been hashed and rehashed.. but any thoughts of 
LDR's would be great to read up on now... I'll be looking forward to hearing 
fro
   m you all!

		Thanx for everything!
			
				Dave
P.S.  Sorry for the appearance of this.. I hate unix! hehe
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: tokorhon@messi.uku.fi (Tommi Korhonen)
Subject: Re: Why ? Was:I don't know why I am posting this...
Date: 20 Jul 92 07:20:28 GMT
Organization: University of Kuopio, Finland

cwes1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Clare West) writes:
(this is from tokorhon)
>>Wheehw! How do you make this out? So _you_ (in plural meaning) do not
>>know yourself? Guess that has something to do with this communication 
>>problem of sexes!

>I *knew* that I made a botch up of explaining that. Indeed I do mean
>that I don't know myself. Or at least I didn't. I thought that my life
>would be better if I was Just Good Friends with Jono. I was wrong.
>*But* that does not mean that I when I said 'No' I didn't really mean
>it. I did and if I had had the question put to me again I would have
>been quite annoyed. Fortunately Jono took me seriously. Also
>fortunately Jono was still around three days later when I realised
>what a mistake I was making.

Yup. Clears a bit. 
I believe too, when someone turns me down. But when that someone then
later (be it three days or two years) comes complaining that why 
don't you DO anything, then I'm out!
It's two different views colliding. Such is life.

>Probably still haven't explained this very well. Such is life,
That's ok.

>clare

-- 

It's Tkorho above there, at tokorhon@messi.uku.fi
"The Black Crow of love"
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: Michel Goudeseune <marcelg@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: asking out a stranger
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:54:06 GMT


Funny.  I first dispense my own advice on asking out a stranger, and
then come right back to the net asking others' advice.  Here goes...

I've been swimming at a local pool on a regular basis for about 2.5
months now.  There's one lifeguard there who is usually around when
I'm there, and who I find attractive.  I did OK introducing myself,
especially considering that there are a bunch of "regulars" there, most
of whose names I don't know.

Anyways, she was very friendly, and we've chatted briefly now and
then.  Last week, mainly because I was so *.* confused, I talked to
her, and told her that I want to get to know her better, but that I
don't want to resort to the cliche of "Will you go out with me?"
Looking back, I think she misunderstood me, and heard me ask exactly
that -- would she like to go out with me?  Her response was that she
didn't want to go out with one of the patrons of the pool;  she also
hasn't gone out with any of the other guards there.  In her opinion,
she didn't want to lead me on when there could never really be
anything there.

Having stewed this over for a while, I'm now thoroughly confused.  My
brother suggested that this may be a defense mechanism on her part,
especially if she's attractive (yes) and has been lifeguarding for
some time (I don't know).

She's not ignoring me when I show up at the pool, and is still very
friendly, but this still leaves me in a bit of a bind.  I want to get
together with her sometime just to chat, but I'm iffy about how to
approach her now.  Talking at the pool is not an option for the
moment, as she's usually guarding the all-ages swims, which I try to
avoid.

My current plans (once my mind clears a bit :-) ) are to ask her out
to lunch at some point just to talk, and get to know her as a person.
I'm quite aware that I don't want to start a relationship with someone
I don't know at all.

Does this make sense?

Thanks for listening.



 Michel Goudeseune                       marcelg@zooid.guild.org
         Love yourself - or nobody else can.  -- Madonna
From: HJ46@lafibm.lafayette.edu (Baboo (Holton, Jeffrey))
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: RE: How to ask someone out?
Date: 26 Jul 92 18:41:54 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University
Originator: news@lafcol

In article <92207.162946U15479@uicvm.uic.edu> U15479@uicvm.uic.edu (Chris Grumboski) writes:
>I need advice on what to do and say when approaching a woman I would like to
>meet.  I am kind of shy and would like to change that but I can never think of
>a thing to say when I see a stranger I would like to meet.  I don't want to
>seem desperate or sleazy but rather friendly and non-confrontational.  Also,
>what non-verbal signs do women give you when they want you to approach them,
>say at a bar or on the street etc?  Thanks,
>                                           Chris
>.
>.

I have had a drastic time trying to package women into an algorithm of
some sort.  I don't think it will work.

Try this:  HEY ALL YOU WOMEN OUT THERE ON ALT.ROMANCE!  ARE YOU ALL THE
SAME???

Check the responses to this, Chris.  I doublt any of them will say yes,
unless they have a really good sense of humor and they're trying to
make me look like an idiot.  =)

--Jeffrey
CS Major, and if I could write a program to answer all these questions,
I'd do it.

..say, my girlfriend is also a CS major...maybe I could get her to