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From: jon@ephor.tusc.oz.au (Jon Eaves)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: CBR600F2 Tyre Wear
Date: 5 Jan 1993 16:52:38 +1100
Organization: TUSC Computer Systems Pty Ltd.
Distribution: world
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Hi Net-people,

  After a quick spin down to the Great Ocean Road (Victoria, Australia)
  with a pillon I noticed unusual pattern of wear on the rear tyre.

  With the aid of an ascii-art tyre I shall attempt to explain


		|		|
		|		|
		*		*   (ok it's not that flat)
		 *             *
		  -------------

  The areas denoted by '*' have strange wear patterns.  We shall assume
  that the tyre tread (Michelin M50's) are square.

			-X-X-X-X   
			|      |   | direction of rotation
			|      |   V
			--------

  At the spot marked 'X' is a build up of rubber.  

  Not having a huge experience with a) sports bikes with power,
  and b) softish tyres, I ask the question,  Is this normal ?

  The temperature was hot 32'C, the tyres were inflated to the recommended
  level (owners manual and "real" tyre gauge)  The tyres have done about 
  10,000 km of fairly easy use and there is still heaps of tread left.

-- 
------------------------< Jon Eaves [jon@tusc.oz] >----------------------
         I have no castle. The immutable spirit is my castle.
|                                                                       |
--- TUSC Computer Systems, 666 Doncaster Rd, Doncaster, Victoria 3108 ---
From: gridley@toe.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Frank Gehrke)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: BMW Headlight
Date: 8 Jan 1993 21:05:15 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: all
NNTP-Posting-Host: toe.cs.berkeley.edu

I'm searching for a replacement headlight for a 1976 R90/6. The current stock unit no longer produces useful illumination and even when new was no great performer. I'm thinking of something like a Cibie or other. 

If e-mail please reply to gridley@snow.water.ca.gov

thanks
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:43796 ba.motorcycles:1416
From: noemi@synoptics.com (Noemi Berry)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: First Bike Opinions
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:53:49 GMT
Reply-To: noemi@synoptics.com
Organization: SynOptics Communications, Santa Clara CA

Re: picking up a bike as a requisite to owning it:

not everyone can pick up every bike in every situation.  even if you
*can* pick up your motorcycle, you may not be able to if you drop it
downhill or something.  IMO, being able to pick up your bike is a plus
if you can, not a stopping factor if you can't.

>Personally I feel that it is more important to be able to flat foot a bike
>than to be able to pick it up if you drop it. If you can flat foot it (at
>least to a reasonable amount of foot, none of this tip toe stuff) then
>when you hit a stop light you stand less of a chance of dropping it.

newbie!  yeah, none of this tiptoe stuff.

>How do the rest of you feel. I've only picked up one bike and it felt
>damn heavy. It was the Kaw 305LTD that I dumped in MSF class! And that
>was only a 300lb bike. I picked it up but it wasn't real easy.

330 dry.  it's all technique, just like not dropping your bike at
a stop light.  and i speak with much experience about picking up
Kawasaki 305s.

stop light drops can happen to anyone, flat foot or not.  perhaps it is
more likely to happen to the tiptoe rider due to less of a boot contact
patch and less leg length to catch a bike, but then, it may be less
likely for the tiptoe rider since we...i mean, they are in the habit
of investigating for slope, nasty substances, etc.

>...usually have a drainage area off of a crowned road
>surface. If you have to stop in the middle of one of those things your
>front tire can be on one side of the ditch and the rear tire on the
>other side of it.

so you don't stop over the drainage ditch, or any other low spot!
brains over brawn, y'know?

MSF ERC sez: 10% physical, 90% mental.  that applies.

>|> I am by no means trying to represent myself as an authority.
>I'm not an authority either.

well, i AM!!!

flatfooting is a marvelous luxury if you have it, and it's of greater
importance for beginners, but it is not the last word in motorcycling.
after all, we ride with our feet on the PEGS, not the ground.

noemi (not quite 5'2")
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
noemi@synoptics.com 						KotSBL
'83 BMW R65LS (NM)	"have bike, will travel"		DoD #443
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: gpn0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (GARY PHILIP NEWHART)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Looking for a Triumph
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:44:32 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I'm looking to buy a Triumph 650, preferably in running order. I had one till
last season, then i foolishly sold it. Thanks for any interest. I'm in the
philadelphia, pennsylvania vicinity.
gpn
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: gavin@tiger1.prime.com (Dave Gavin)
Subject: gifs
Keywords: where
 
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:29:27 GMT

finally figured out how to look at them....any pointers to where
the  dod gifs and such might be located...
 
Dave Gavin
DOD 692
From: leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Another poser exposed (was Re: lane splitting/sharing poll)
Date: 9 Jan 93 02:12:03 GMT
Organization: The Cafe at the Edge of the Universe

jfriedl@omron.co.jp writes:
+|>              Lane            Lane            Lane
+|> Where        Splitting       Sharing (2 mc)  Sharing (cage/mc)
+|>            ("whitelineing")
+|> ---------------------------------------------------------------
+|> MA           NO              YES             NO
+                                                        (cage/cage)
+   Japan        YES             YES             YES     YES         

    MD           NO              YES             NO      only on the
                                                         Capitol Beltway  ;^)

+*jeff*
+
+DoD##4   CBR250 Hurricane
 ^^^^^^

Indeed?  Just don't let Dave Lawrence or the KotL know about it, poser!

From The List:  0004:Dave Lawrence:NY:tale@cs.rpi.edu

Send your flames to:

+Jeffrey Eric Francis Friedl                          jfriedl@omron.co.jp
+Omron Electronics, Central R&D Lab, RZC     Nagaokakyo, Kyoto 617, Japan
+Currently visiting scientist to the Mach Project, Carnegie Mellon University.

Mr. Bill
-- 
 /    Spoken: Bill Leavitt    \ / ICOA 3193 \ / 82 Honda CBX White Lightning \
| UUCP: ...uunet!mimsy!leavitt | AMA 0313707 | ==82 Suzuki GS850GZ Suzibago== |
 \ Domain: leavitt@cs.umd.edu / \  DoD 224  / \ 76 Honda CJ360T Little Honda /
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From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Real life facts about insurance companies and fairy dust.
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:12:42 GMT

In article <1iqnjlINNlrt@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com> mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti) writes:
>In article <C0J0A1.L9B@news.iastate.edu> tomes@iastate.edu writes:
>
>>News flash: Insurance companies exist to take your money.
>
>>              They will screw you over: that is their sole purpose in life.
>
>Statements such as these, and threads whose subject lines include phrases
>such as "insurance scum", annoy me.  I think its time for all of us to
>realize that, like every other business in a capitalistic society, the
>mission of the insurance company is to maiximize its profit while providing
>goods or services to its customers.
 
BWahhhaaaaaahahahahahaahhahah.
 
>spare, for apparantly nothing in return.  Later, when your bike is damaged,
 
< Wishfull thinking deleted because it didn't make a point>
 
>or you've damaged someone else's person or property, and you need to file a
>claim, you feel especially bad about the situation, and resent having to be
>at the receiving end of their attempt to maximize profits.
>
>They are not out to hurt you, cheat you, nor rip you off.  They are carefully
>doing business in a way that protects their own interest and to satisfy their
>investors.  If you were one of those investors, you would want it no other
>way.  As one of their customers, is it so difficult to understand?
>

A normal business profit I don't mind. Rates to support the Taj Mahal of
office complexes I would prefer Michael pay for.
What the heck after twenty years of paying the assholes and never
filing a claim how about some interest on all that principle.
 
Perhaps not being jerked around when they know by all involved, and
their description of their policy, they should be paying but still they
wanna play attrition.       
 
After all didn't we all want to be insurance salesman when we grew up?
Before all our dreams received a nice slap of reality. Those poor poor
insurance gentlemen/women never had a fair chance in life.
 
I have to go get some Kleenex.
 
================================================================================
 Steatopygias's 'R' Us.          doh#0000000005 That ain't no Hottentot.
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. AMA#669373 DoD#564. There ain't no more.
================================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
From: jvasquez@netcom.com (Jeffrey P. Vasquez)
Subject: First Bike Opinions
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:39:08 GMT


Hello all,
 
    I need to purchase a "first bike" motorcycle for a friend of mine
and teach her to ride (yes, I can make her take the NTSF course, but she
wants to learn the fundamentals first).  I wanted to solicit some
opinions on first bikes.
 
    I'll relate my opinions and some background information.  My first
bike was a 125 Enduro-type bike.  Very light, with enough power to get
out of the way of unfriendlies (four-wheeled variety) on neighborhood
streets.  My second bike was a Honda 450 standard street bike.  In the
ten years I've been driving now, I am of the belief that this course of
learning/advancement has served me very well.
 
    I'm thinking of following the same course with her.  That way after
she's done with the Enduro, I can keep it as a fun bike.  Now, IMHO, the
final bike she rides is _not_ a consideration in terms of learning to
ride, however, if one of you disagrees, I'll tell you what she'll be
driving ultimately.  Her primary bike will be a KZ ZX-6.  She may also
drive an HD FatBoy (provided she is capable of picking it up).
Generally, my only criteria for deciding whether one should drive a
particularly bike or not is if they are physically capable of picking it
up if they dump it.  I realize this is not very definitive, but I think
it's a good place to start.  And, of course, whatever bike happens to
catch her fancy in the future (I think she's leaning towards an HD 883
of some kind).
 
   I welcome everyone's opinion on this.  I am by no means trying to
represent myself as an authority.  Thanks for your input.
 
Regards,
jeffrey
jvasquez.netcom.com

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Subject: Re: (Un)leaded fuel
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:33:42 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.202123.11126@abo.fi> BFRIBERG@FINABO.ABO.FI (Nalle, RRMCC) writes:
>Is anyone familiar with the use of unleaded fuel in older motorcycles?
>
>Here in Finland, the bloody bunnyhuggers are raising fuel costs
>into the sky, [so can I use gas with additives other than lead?]

My understanding is that the lead is required only in some bikes from
before 1980 or so that had valve seats that were not hard enough.  The
lead coats the valve seats and protects them from wear.  You don't
have to use leaded gas all the time, however.  After you've run a
tankful of leaded gas through the engine, the valves are coated and
you can use unleaded gas for the next few fillups (I don't remember
how many is considered safe).  Then you fill with leaded gas again to
replenish the coating.

If this is wrong, anyone is free to correct me.  I don't recall any
references offhand.  If it's right, however, it might be worth looking
into.

Also check whether it matters to the bike whether the gas is leaded.
Not all old bikes had the valve seat problem.

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
-- '80 BMW R65   BMWMOA #36829   DoD #0969   NRA #CDF6091M
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: lane splitting/sharing poll
Date: 8 Jan 1993 14:30:37 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 93Jan7153720@laura.harvard.edu, lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto) writes:
>I want to find out what lane s*ing is legal where.  Consider this a
>"chain" posting...
>
>	Lane 		Lane		Lane	Helmets
						Mandatory
>State	Splitting	Sharing (2 mc)	Sharing (cage/mc)
>
>MA	NO		YES		NO
NC	NO		?		NO	YES

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: Dealing with the Insurance Scum
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 13:10:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.002638.17107@leland.Stanford.EDU> karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish) writes:
>In article <24689@galaxy.ucr.edu> tgrupe@watnxt11.ucr.edu
>(Todd E. Grupe) writes:
>>	I'm not looking for free legal advice (it's already pretty clear  

   [***]  details deleted

>
>If you want your money, remember that whatever you think of
>the company, you're going to have to enlist the cooperation
>of a number of individual human beings who work for that
>company.
>
>Be reasonable but firm with them.  Don't scream or threaten,
>but let them know that you know what you're entitled to
>and that you intent to get it.  Lawsuits are expensive for them,
>too, and that's your best motivator.  If they know that
>you'll be insistent and reasonable, and that you'll sue
>them if you have to, they'll probably get down to business.
>
>    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com

Another thought:  most states have an insurance review or licensing board,
that has a big lever over the ins. co's.  What I've seen work real well,
is to put your position in writing, with a cc to the state board and
perhaps to the local Better Business Bureau if it's gotten to that point.

Besides, if you do end up having to sue them, the more tracks you have in 
writing the better ... and they will realize that too.


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
               BMW K1100-LT, R80-GS/PD, R27, Triumph TR6
                           Columbus, Ohio

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Re: Real life facts about insurance companies
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 22:19:10 GMT

In article <1iqnjlINNlrt@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com> mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com
(Michael R. Kesti) writes:
>They are not out to hurt you, cheat you, nor rip you off.  They are carefully
>doing business in a way that protects their own interest and to satisfy their
>investors.

When they "protect their interests" by being deliberately
unresponsive to a legitimate claim, waiting for me to
settle for less than I'm entitles to or forcing me to hire
a lawyer or just collecting interest on money that's
rightfully mine, they're ripping me off.  When they cook
their books to justify inflated premiums and to dodge taxes,
they're ripping me off.  If insurance companies were all such
high-minded organizations, we wouldn't have to pay tax money to
regulate them.
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@pangea.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Dear Abby sez "Don't let kids get on motorcycles" 
From: emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 23:02:06 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Robert Smits

achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach) writes:

> In article <726107313snz@morgan.demon.co.uk> tony@morgan.demon.co.uk writes:
> >
> >
> >Sheesh you poor guys. In this country (where we obviously don't have as many
> >lawyers as you do), anybody trying to claim damages for injuries suffered 
> >while in pursuit of a tresspass would be laughed out of court, unless they 
> >could show that you maliciously set a trap designed to injure them. What kin
> >of legal system rewards the malefactor against the innocent party?
> >
> >
> >Tony
> >
> 
> Actually it is directly descended from English common law. With some silly
> permutations picked up along the way.
> 
> Jeff Achenbach 


I wonder if Joseph Lucas (aka The Prince of Darkness) descended from a 
lawyer. That might explain English electrical cr.....er systems!


Robert Smits Ladysmith BC  | Why do Englishmen drink warm beer?
emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca      | They all have Lucas refrigerators.
From: yuri@amath.washington.edu (Yuri Yulaev)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: moto exam question
Date: 6 Jan 1993 20:37:22 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Applied Mathematics, Seattle
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: orcas.amath.washington.edu

	I just bought Honda 750cc and I must pass two exams here in Seattle.
Can you tell me, please, where is special place to try "skill test" or it's just kind of
temporary stuff?
Also, I would appreciate, if you write to me examples from your exam. 
	Yuri.
From: leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Another poser exposed (was Re: lane splitt
Date: 12 Jan 93 02:00:07 GMT
Organization: The Cafe at the Edge of the Universe

leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill) writes:
>From The List:  0004:Dave Lawrence:NY:tale@cs.rpi.edu

egreen@east.sun.com replies:
>Also from the list:
>#4:Jeffrey Friedl:Kyoto, Japan:jfriedl@omron.co.jp
>
>Not that he is not DoD#4, but DoD##4.  (DoD#\#4 for you Unix-heads).

Hey, he should have said this, then I'd have understood, maybe... 

>Hey, the chap was quite insistant.  After consulting DoD Rule #1, the
>KotL was forced to conceed that it constitutes a unique alphanumeric

I guess either my copy of The List is old, or I can't work 'egrep'
correctly anymore.  Oh well, I stand corrected.

But an apology?  From a Denizen?!?  NEVER!!  ;^)

Mr. Bill
-- 
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| UUCP: ...uunet!mimsy!leavitt | AMA 0313707 | ==82 Suzuki GS850GZ Suzibago== |
 \ Domain: leavitt@cs.umd.edu / \  DoD 224  / \ 76 Honda CJ360T Little Honda /
From: tkpowell@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Terry Powell)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CBR600F2 dethroned by '93 ZX-6. Whine......whimper!
Keywords: tank, bloated
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:06:27 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc.

In article <1inbtr$lfd@agate.berkeley.edu> robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Robinson) writes:
->In article <1993Jan9.131137.20938@osf.org> jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John
->S. Morris) writes:
->>I don't mind the bloated look, but that stooopud NINJA decal! How can
->>anybody 
->>over 25 years of age feel like an adult riding a bike called NINJA?  (Oh I 
->>forgot, the target market isn't adults.....)
->
->Funny, I was in the grocery store just last night and noticed a review of
->the new ZX11-D.  I swear the first thought through my mind was, "nice
->looking
->bike...I wonder how hard it is to get that juvenile Ninja decal off."
->
->From an engineering, ergonomics standpoint, you would think the ZX11 is 
->supposed to fit in the "sport-touring" niche.  Is it really the case that
->they are consciously marketing the ZX11 as some sort of adolescent
->penis-extender?  Or are they really that clueless about the tastes of the
->"not ready for Goldwings" crowd?>


At $8400/8900 for the 93 Zx11 plus insurance, I doubt many adolescents
will be riding Zx11s.  As far as the sticker goes, a hair dryer will
quickly dispense with the NINJA sticker.  
-- 

Terry Powell       Email - Terry.K.Powell@tek.com       Portland,Or

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: Dear Abby sez "Don't let kids get on motorcycles"
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 05:26:08 GMT

In article <1il07c$98u@agate.berkeley.edu> robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Robinson) writes:
++++Previously, someone whose attribution line I lost wrote:
>>"We do not provide Liability Coverage for any person ...
>>8. Using a vehicle without a reasonable belief that that person is
>>entitled to do so."

>It sounds like this isn't exempting the policy holder from coverage, but
>rather excluding non-policy-holding joyriders from making claims against
>the vehicle's insurer should they, themselves become legally liable for
>damages.

If I read that right (in *this* newsgroup?), that means the child/parents can
sue you and the insurance company will *not* bail you out.  Whether the child
was climbing all over your moto with or without the parent's supervision, if
they have a lawyer, you have a world of wallet-hurt coming.

As the owner of the Child-Hand-Burning Bike (tm pending), I too found Abby's
answer somewhat irresponsible.  She advised the moto-owner to have coverage
yet said nothing about the deplorable practice of deliberately crawling all
over someone else's property, which was the whole point of the 'Wing owner's
letter.

I would think that most policies cover damage the bike causes if it tips over,
but this one would probably be limited to 'act of God' kinds of incidents.  A
kid pulling it over while climbing on/off the bike isn't in that category.

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|                                                                          |
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From: farid@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Hany Farid)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: cager attitudes
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:53:37 GMT
Organization: /home/farid/.organization
In-reply-to: jcn@rice.edu's message of 11 Jan 93 21:22:32 GMT


>   The point, then, of the article, was that while stupid and violent 
>   reactions alienate cagers, courteous actions might draw them to our 
>   side.
>
>   Just reflecting on a pretty good article.

I have to agree with this -- I really make an effort to be courteous
to all vehicles, bicycles, and pedestrians in an attempt to boost the
bad rap that many bikers get.

When a car cuts me off or does something stupid, I generally beep
lighlty and shake my head in disgust.  The response is usually an
apologetic wave in return.  I often feel that this is more productive
than yelling and screaming, which is bound to just alienate the driver.

Hany Farid
(DoD #-2:  1986 Honda Shadow)


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