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From: smiller@bcarh838.bnr.ca (Scott Miller)
Subject: Multitech dumps the Lynx.  (cheap!)
Reply-To: smiller@bcarh838.bnr.ca (Scott Miller)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:19:19 GMT

Well, I got a good deal today.  Multitech, a Canadian warehouse-type 
electronic store, had an ad in the morning paper, for clearing out of various
stock.

At the top of the ad was a Lynx II with Batman Returns for *33* dollars (CDN).
New, in the box, now Comlynx or power supply.
All their cartridges (they only had 6 games) were $20.

Between me and a friend, we bought three lynxes and cleaned that store out of
cartridges.

So, a good deal for me, but there's another (small scale) Lynx retailer
bailing out.  They had carried the Lynx for a couple of years, but never
had a very good game selection, and they were $50. 

(BTW, the salesguy told me their cost was $104 on those.  It came up on the
 computer as he was ringing the sale through.  Now THAT'S a loss leader! )

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Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: jmkaraka@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHN MARTIN KARAKASH)
Subject: Re: The usual questions...
Originator: jmkaraka@c00174-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jmkaraka@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHN MARTIN KARAKASH)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:11:34 GMT


|>They're idiots.  When I called customer support and asked to buy two copies of
|>Joust, the person on the other end first seemed incredulous, and when I asked
|>him why, he said (and I'm not making this up), "Well, I didn't expect that game
|>to sell at all.  It's an older title."
|>
|>It gets better.  When I asked him why the only advertisement I'd seen from
|>Atari was the pre-Christmas newspaper circular, he said, "Oh, man, I wish they
|>never did that!  We've been so busy since that ran, I hardly ever get to rest."


	You're right.  They are idiots.  But this time is was customer
service rather than marketing.  I wonder if they should be happy or upset
about that!

	-john-
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: thomase@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Thomas Esamie)
Subject: Lynx push for sales...maybe
Summary: Just about some stuff Atari OZ is doing
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 10:20:39 GMT


	In the long dark distant past, about 6months after I got my Lynx
I rang Atari in OZ (naturally) to ask about a list of titles available.
They didn't have any such lists, but mentioned that there was a Lynx Club.
'Yeah? I've never heard of it' says I ever so eloquently. Anyway they send
me the form, and I send back my name, age and $15 AUD. Actually the whole
thing seemed infantile but I get to save 5% off Lynx purchases. So I wait
3 months and the Bag, cap, badge and membership card come through.

	Now, about 7 months later the membership forms are next to the game
displays in Virgin's Computer Games section. There are also questions designed
to pinpoint the Lynx's demographics. Stuff like what Radio stations do you 
listen to and when, which magazines do you read, what TV shows do you watch.
How many games have you for the Lynx and what other gamesconsoles do you own
are other quetions. With the arrival of the Lynx II I sense a big campaign
in the offing and perhaps the real arrival of the Lynx in Australia. Even 
better still is that it now costs $25/year. I live in hope.

	Another thing I noticed was a posting of the Lynx titles, I was most
impressed with the coming soon (though that is a fairly liberal term at Atari)
games. All I want to know is WHEN?
			Thomas the Tank Engine
			aka Algor

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|    or   ak586@cleveland.freenet.edu  | is to give in to it.                 |
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From: rhoenes@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Richard Hoenes)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Atari Advertising!!!
Date: 23 Jan 93 18:06:54 GMT
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Marc Goldman (marc@comp.lancs.ac.uk) wrote:
: Well i just picked up a copy of Videogames & Computer Entertainment, and
: was flicking through it quite happily, when i noticed the back cover!

: Wow an Atari advert, for the Lynx!!!! (well i was surprised)

: The add is entitled 'Why Lynx?'

: Then shows 4 game boxes (Hockey, NFL Football, Baseball and Soccer).

: then says 'Great Sports, Atari Lynx. The most fun you can hold in your
: hands'

: Well i'm not sure about the great sports statement, but it is great to
: see a nice big ad, prominently placed!

Seen this same ad in the latest issue of DC's Green Arrow comic book.
Maybe they're starting to get the picture.

Also, in the latest issue of Marvel Comics Presents Wolverine teams up
with an all-new heroine named - The Lynx :)   [Ok, it's got nothing to do
with Atari's Lynx but it's better then nothing]

Richard
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad)
Subject: Re: Illegally copying Lynx games...
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 24 Jan 93 14:06:36 CST

In article <freek.727897399@groucho.phil.ruu.nl> freek@phil.ruu.nl (Freek Wiedijk) writes:
>Quiz: Is it possible to built a Lynx cartridge with a RAM
>chip & battery on it (so that it retains its contents), plus
>a box for down- and uploading games to a computer (say a
>notebook, for portability)?

As you say, yes.  But this act in and of itself is not illegal.  Of course,
many people who own game copiers are pirates, and they are scum.
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: buxton@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (buxton)
Subject: Re: Invincibility in Batman returns
Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, UW-Madison
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 19:23:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.160319.10375@zip.eecs.umich.edu>  
positron@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Jonathan Haas) writes:
> In article <1993Jan19.162740.3877@nic.csu.net> carpio@sutro.SFSU.EDU  
(Jocelito T. Carpio) writes:
> >AT THE TITLE SCREEN (THE ONE WITH THE BATMAN LOGO) DO THIS
> >
> >1. PRESS UP 8 TIMES, DOWN 12 TIMES LEFT 15 TIMES RIGHT 19 TIMES AND  
OPTION 1
> >27 TIMES.
> >
> 
> You must be joking!
I agree!  I tried it 5-6 times and could not get it to work!
Are the numbers right?
From: kucharsk@solbourne.com (William Kucharski)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: [LYNX] Current ATARI LYNX Price List
Date: 25 Jan 1993 18:30:46 -0700
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: anthrax.solbourne.com

While reading article <1993Jan25.010944.13500@madnix.uucp>, I noticed that
ray@madnix.uucp (Ray P. Hill) said the following:
 >ATARI LYNX PRODUCT INFORMATION as of January 13th 1993:

[ ... Entries Deleted ... ]

 >Power_Factor				PA2109	39.99	<COMING SOON>
 >Rai-Den				PA2078	39.99	<COMING SOON>

Does this mean "Qix" has been discontinued?
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From: hilton@leechs.lzo.dec.com (Greg Hilton)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Atari Advertising!!!
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:10:13 GMT
Reply-To: hilton@bahtat.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Company


WOW

Perhaps Atari has sat on a bomb or something,

This morning as I opened by Kellogs Start I noticed a 
piccie of the Lynx on the back.

Kellogs are doing a comp to win 1001 lynxes, and every entry
gets a Lynx pin badge!


Greg (in the UK)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: hoanga@vccsouth22.its.rpi.edu (Alain Hoang)
Subject: Re: lets face it
Reply-To: hoanga@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:42:34 GMT


	I got an IDEA!  Get someone else to buy out the rights to the lynx
(Not Sega or Atari) and let them handle it!!  I bet you that half the people
on this net can market the lynx better.   I really like this idea and I'm not
trying to be sarcastic.  Just giving an incredibly weird idea. 



hoanga@rpi.edu
Alain Hoang
"Don't let the Lynx become an extinct species!"
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: mphall@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (Michael Hall)
Subject: Re: Illegally copying Lynx games...
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 20:53:59 GMT

In article <freek.727897399@groucho.phil.ruu.nl> freek@phil.ruu.nl (Freek Wiedijk) writes:
>Quiz: Is it possible to built a Lynx cartridge with a RAM
>chip & battery on it (so that it retains its contents), plus
>a box for down- and uploading games to a computer (say a
>notebook, for portability)?
>
>(Hint: the answer is yes.  A friend of a friend did just
>that.  Don't ask me for the details: I don't know him that
>well.)
>
>Freek

	Oh good.  Something new to sap the will of developers for
Lynxes.  Isn't it something of an old saw among ST users that piracy
probably crippled the ST market? Or is that just the corporate mags
making a point by taking advantage of a weak platform's misfortune.

	Mike

-- 
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mphall@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu
Xref: sparky alt.games.lynx:1684 rec.games.video:28783
From: bradley@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Eugene Bradley)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx,rec.games.video
Subject: I'm back (and in need of help)
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:53:34 GMT
Followup-To: alt.games.lynx
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I am returning to this newsgroup after a three year abesnce.  For those
of you that remember me, I used to do some reviews for my old Atari 2600
games (e.g.  Pete Rose Baseball).  Anyway, over the three years, I have done 
and been through quite a few things.  Email me at the address below for more
details.

Anyway, to the subject at hand.  I need to know spoilers for Ms. Pac-Man
for the Lynx.  I know that tere was a trick that allowed you to obtain five
extra lives at will, but I have lost it.

Also, are there any spoilers/tricks to Hockey for Lynx?  I am looking for a 
way to play same team vs. same team, which I remember seeing a screen shot for
it in some magazine at one time (the name and date of the issue escapes me).

Finally, are there any more tricks/spoilers for the following games?

Chip's Challenge
Electrocop
Fidelity Ultimate Chess
Checkered Flag (I know about the cruise control trick as well as the trick
	where you can eliminate all road noises)
Klax
Gauntlet:  The Third Encounter
Zarlor Mercenary
Ninja Gaiden

Also, can you include any bugs (besides the ones in Chip's Challenge)?  All
such information would be greatly appreciated.
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: dlazo@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Dionicio T. Lazo)
Subject: Re: Invincibility in Batman returns
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:04:11 GMT


I think it was posted that the code makes you invincible which it does.
You can die from falling off a building and you can be knowcked down by
shotgun blasts and explosions, but if you look at your life meter, it
never changes. It does take some skill to finish the game enev though
you are invincible.  The ending sucks though.

Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: mphall@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (Michael Hall)
Subject: Re: Advertising
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:43:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.165713.3898@nic.csu.net> carpio@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Jocelito T. Carpio) writes:
>
>
>I saw the Lynx advertisments and I can say blah! to them. Who really buys
>sports cartridges for the lynx when the screen is too small to actually
>see or play a game!.  What they should do is advertise Dracula or some
>new upcoming game.
>There are so many sports cartridges out anyway. They have idiots working
>for atari plain and simple. You know, maybe we should let them take a 
>look at these postings we put here and maybe that will change their way
>of thinking!
>
>What the hell do you think?
>
>
	That sports games sell, according to my local Software Etc.
manager.  And that in lucrative college market, sports games sell big.
And that the campaign has also included more general titles, as I posted
earlier in a thread I think you hijacked into this unrelated one, such
as Pitfighter.  And that while Atari seems to be lackluster in their
effort that I'm glad to see them doing something.  And that you ought to
send them a resume.  And that sports games sell systems, which is the
point, right?  To build the user base?

	That's what the hell I think.

	Mike

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From: rosin@ugcs.caltech.edu (Chris Rosin)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Batman's corny ending
Date: 22 Jan 1993 08:20:27 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: harry.ugcs.caltech.edu

dlazo@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Dionicio T. Lazo) writes:



>I dont mean to knock on Atari, but I have to. Batman Returns could have
>been an exceptionmal game, but the programmers made it too damn hard.
>With only 1 life, it is IMPOSSIBLE to finish the game. Hence, what
>happens is people play it and realize that they cannot finish it so they
>put it aqay and let it collect dust! If you have used the trick Carpio
>posted on how to make batman invincible, and you skipped to levels
>3 and the final level 4, you will see how hard that game is. Atari
>should
>really wake up and smell the coffee.

>What the hell do you think?

Sure, Batman was tough, but not impossible.  I was able to beat it 
without the cheat, though it took a lot of practice.  I'd say that's about
right;  I hate buying a game and then beating it a day or two later..
Of course, Batman was pretty mediocre in other respects...



Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: pgoudas@thumper.bellcore.com (Paul Goudas)
Subject: Re: An idea
Organization: Morristown Research and Engineering
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 15:06:23 GMT

In article <C1FM4F.81w@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, furthd@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Dan Furth) writes:
|> 
|> 
|>   Hello, I am a Lynx user, and this is my first time writing to this news
|> group. Anyway, I had an idea, and I wondered if anyone else had ever,
|> heard of this being done or thinks that it would be possible. The lynx-up
|> feature of the Lynx system is great, except for the fact that 
|> you need two of the same cartridge to play. What would happen if you
|> constructed a box, in which you inserted the game cartrigde. Then 
|> from that box had two sets of wires coming out ended in a cartridge type
|> tip(those small metal teeth on the bottom of the game cartridges). 
|> Would it be possible to "fool" the lynx systems into believing there are
|> two separate game cartridges, even though it is just one game with two
|> sets of leads?             Any speculation or rumors would be appreciated.
|> 


	Besides the legallity of this issue, which I will not bring up for the
sake of the bandwidth requirements involved, there is another issue.
When reading a ROM, a CPU sends and address combination to the ROM and a read
request is generated. Then the CPU reads the data from the data lines.  
The major problem involved here is when a CPU in one unit generates a memory
request and this request is interrupted by a request by the other unit.  I 
guarantee that your data will be corrupted almost instantaneously.  Also you
risk the chances of blowing the rom when an address line receives double the 
current and voltage necessary to drive it.
	This can be done if you put circuitry between the rom and the reading
unit to control the flow of data and address requests. It is not an easy task,
but nevertheless possible.
From: rhoenes@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Richard Hoenes)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: [LYNX] Current ATARI LYNX Price List
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:39:11 GMT
Followup-To: alt.games.lynx
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Ray P. Hill (ray@madnix.uucp) wrote:
: Vindicators				PA2033	29.99	<COMING SOON>

When? Anyone know? Also, can these items be ordered directly from
Atari. If so, anyone have the number? I can't find the sunvisor
and I'm afraid the screen will get scratched.

Richard
From: molin@ptb.cl.msu.edu (Michael Olin)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Toys'R'Us writing
Date: 28 Jan 93 05:27:00 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: ptb.cl.msu.edu

aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys) writes:

>This way, WHEN Atari advertises the Lynx, there will be retailers that
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>have it for people to buy.


Right...  You aren't planning to hold your breath waiting for this to
happen, are you?
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Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: ajb8886@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: comparison
Reply-To: ajb8886@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 20:48:35 GMT


Howdy.  

I'm not interested in instigating a flame war here.  I am interested in a
rational comparison between the Atari Lynx, Sega Game Gear, and NEC handheld
units.  I couldn't find any special interest groups for the GameGear or the NEC 
(or for that matter, the GameBoy), so I'm posting here.

I'm interested in comparisons of any and all facets of operation.  For example, 
while the GameBoy is probably the most limited (hardware wise) of all the 
systems, it has the widest library.  Or:  The Lynx may have roughly the same 
resolution as the gameboy, but the graphics engine behind it can do such and 
such that none of the others are capable of.   Or: The Game Gear can use the
old Sega Master system cartridges (but how well do they play on it?).

Any input at all on any of these systems would be appreciated, although I hope
that proponents of one particular system will not feel the need to trash the
others in the process.  

What are the exact capabilities of each (I'd like to find out just a little 
more than what kind of CPU it has and what the resolution and number of colors 
displayed is.  Can a given graphics engine do color cycling?  Multiple 
playfields?  Multiple level hardware scrolling?  How fast is the refresh rate
on the LCD's used (ie. Does the Lynx have a faster LCD refresh (less blurring
for high speed motion) due to the lower resolution?))
 
And so forth and so on.  

Thanks in advance for your replies.

Alex
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: furthd@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Dan Furth)
Subject: An idea
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
     
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:50:38 GMT



      Hello, I am a Lynx user, and this is my first time writing to this news         group. Anyway, I had an idea, and I wondered if anyone else had ever, heard of this being done or thinks that it would be possible. The lynx-up feature         of the Lynx system is great, except for the fact that you need two of the       same cartridge to play. What would happen if you constructed a box, in          which you inserted the game cartrigde. Then from that box had two sets          of wires coming out, that






 ended in a cartridge type tip(those small             metal teeth on the bottom of the game cartridges). Would it be possible to      "fool" the lynx systems into believing there are two separate game               cartridges, even though it is just one game with two sets of leads?             Any speculation or rumors would be appreciated.    Thanks!

Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: mphall@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (Michael Hall)
Subject: Re: Atari Advertising!!!
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:37:35 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.154800.1079@comp.lancs.ac.uk> marc@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Marc Goldman) writes:
>Well i just picked up a copy of Videogames & Computer Entertainment, and
>was flicking through it quite happily, when i noticed the back cover!
>
>Wow an Atari advert, for the Lynx!!!! (well i was surprised)
>
>The add is entitled 'Why Lynx?'
>
>Then shows 4 game boxes (Hockey, NFL Football, Baseball and Soccer).
>
>then says 'Great Sports, Atari Lynx. The most fun you can hold in your
>hands'
>

	EGM has a two page spread, showing Pit Fighter as available,
too.  Same theme in the ad, though.

	Hope springs eternal.
-- 
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mphall@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: mphall@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (Michael Hall)
Subject: Re: Lynx Support spiraling downward
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 22:25:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.155307.46694@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> 2fvmvicar@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>Just out of curiosity, how well supported is the Lynx where everyone else
>lives?

	Here in Bloomington, IN, the only distributor is Software Etc.
I talk to the manager now and then and according to him, the chain is
going on a region-by-region basis when it comes to supporting the Lynx.

	In Bloomington, he says the Lynx is his big seller during the
not-Holiday season.  Game Gear is catching up or may have overtaken due
to the holiday.

	His clerks are not very consistent in their comments. One of
them pointed me to a Game Gear about eight months ago.  Most of the
others tell buyers the Lynx is the best overall value, but they end up
recommending the Game Gear to people who seem a little less clued in on
what it is they are buying, ie moms 'n dads out shopping for Bobby.
	
	The Gameboy trails the Lynx in both units sold and games sold,
even though it gets twice the shelf space.

	Software Etc., if they are national (they are, aren't they?) may
be a good target for a small extension of the Toys 'R Us campaign, since
it seems like they are in the process of making a decision of some sort.

	-Mike
-- 
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mphall@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: dlazo@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Dionicio T. Lazo)
Subject: Batman's corny ending
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:03:07 GMT



I dont mean to knock on Atari, but I have to. Batman Returns could have
been an exceptionmal game, but the programmers made it too damn hard.
With only 1 life, it is IMPOSSIBLE to finish the game. Hence, what
happens is people play it and realize that they cannot finish it so they
put it aqay and let it collect dust! If you have used the trick Carpio
posted on how to make batman invincible, and you skipped to levels
3 and the final level 4, you will see how hard that game is. Atari
should
really wake up and smell the coffee.

What the hell do you think?
From: robby@elephant.cns.udel.edu (Robert Spotts)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: "Back Doors"
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:53:46 GMT
Reply-To: robby@elephant.cns.udel.edu
Organization: Marine Studies, University of Delaware


	Not so long ago, someone posted a list of "back doors" for various
	lynx games.  Can someone please either post the list again or send
	me a copy?

	Thanks
	Rob

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