HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: fjk4i@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Frederick Joseph Keith)
Subject: Determining price for used hard drives?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 19:40:50 GMT


How does one determine the "going rate" for pieces of used PC
hardware (hard drives, in my case)?  

Thanks!
--joe keith
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
F. Joseph Keith           University of Virginia    
Internet: fjk4i@virginia.edu 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: hcfu@csie.nctu.edu.tw ()
Subject: Help wanted: compatibility btw PS/2 RAM and a RS/6000 x-terminal RAM
Keywords: 16550AFN
Organization: Dep. Computer Science & Engin. of Chiao Tung U., Taiwan, ROC
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 01:41:52 GMT
From: osoelgaultier+@CMU.EDU (Stefan Monnier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Monochrome monitors
Date: 6 Oct 92 06:24:43 GMT
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


I'm considering buying a PC, but, being used to Unix boxes, 
I would like to get a big screen (at least 17 inches).

This seems normal, but I also would like it to be monochrome
(cause color is expensive and of less quality)

As I can't seem to find ads for big monochrome monitors, 
I ask it here:

Does big (17inches or more) SVGA monochrome monitors exist ??

	Stefan

PS: I also would be interested in approximate price

-----------------------------------------------------
-- On the average, people seem to be acting normal --
-----------------------------------------------------
From: limrcd@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Richard LIM)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 07:41:53 GMT
Subject: Need switch settings.
Organization: HP Singapore Notes-Server
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

I recently inherited an orphaned Intel Above board AT complete 
with 2MB of RAM but no data sheet.

I need to know what are the switch settings to configure it as
2MB of extended memory (for Windows on my old SX).


Regards
Richard Lim     "A conclusion is where you get tired of thinking"
======================================================================
E-mail:  hpsgm2.SGP.HP.COM!limrcd   Snail-mail: Hewlett-Packard S'pore
Tel:     (065)-279-2525                         (APD-ThinFilm SS/EE)
Telnet:        520-2525                         1150 Depot Road
HPDesk:  Richard Lim/HP3200/30                  Singapore 0410.

Xref: sparky comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:25479 comp.sys.intel:1782
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 10:22:47 EDT
From: <JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Fast Micro: Opinion??

I posted a day or so ago [Mail Order:  HELP] asking for suggestions/
comments on several mail order companies [ZEOS, PC Brand, a few others]

With the new ZEOS systems, they are effectively out of the running unless
their prices drop about $300 by Christmas.  That's not TOTALLY beyond
the realm of possibility, but . . .

Right now, it looks like Fast Micro has the inside track.  I have gotten
one reply mentioning some horror stories from FM.  I'm concerned, but at the
same time, the price, as they say, is right ($1499 for a 386/40, upgradeable,
pretty well loaded), and my 8086 is fading fast.

Has anyone else bought from FM, or know someone who has?  I'd prefer
specifics, if possible.


Thanks in advance


Jim Thoms
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: morty@midips.in-berlin.de (Martin Poetter)
Subject: Unsatisfied about Sigma Legend II Setup
Organization: Private Organisation fuer angewandte Informagie
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:09:16 GMT

Hi folks,

I'm very unsatisfied about the Sigma Legend II setup utility.

I have a Philips Brilliance 1709 monitor (66 kHz, 100 Hz) connected to the
Sigma Legend II graphics card. I've told the setup utility about the specs
of the monitor. The setup utility enables the following combinations of
resolution and vertical refresh rate to be displayed:

  resolution  colors  refresh  required monitor spec
  ----------  ------  -------  ---------------------
   1024x768   16/256   76 Hz    62 kHz 
    800x600   16/256   72 Hz    48 kHz
    800x600   32768    56 Hz    35.5 kHz 
    640x480   16/256   72 Hz    37.8 kHz
    640x480   32768    72 Hz    37.8 kHz
    320x200   16/256   88 Hz    ?
  
Standard text mode (80x25) will be displayed with 88 Hz.

The Sigma Legend II is able to produce an output signal with a maximum 
of 62 kHz vertical frquency (80 MHz dot clock). It features both a 80 MHz 
(regular) DAC and a 80 MHz HiColor DAC.

1) Is it possible to program the Sigma Legend so that a maximum refresh rate 
   will be achieved at any resolution (If 1024x768 can be at 76 Hz, then 
   800x600 must be even higher)?

2) Why only 56 Hz at 800x600 HiColor mode? (*sic*)		
		
3) Are there any utilities for the Sigma Legend II or any other ET-4000 card 
   to get custom-made refresh rates?
   
4) I've heard that the Sigma Legend II is slightly different from other 
   ET-4000 cards and therefore not 100% compatible. Is that right?
   
5) I thought that the Sigma Legend II was the best ET-4000 card around
   because it could do 1024x768 at 76 Hz. Now I'm not sure if others don't?
   
Well, I hope you can help me. Please send an E-mail!
I will make a summery if I get response!

bye, Martin. (from Berlin/Germany)
-- 
morty@midips.in-berlin.de
Martin Poetter / W1000 Berlin 20 / Germany
Student d. E-Technik, TU Berlin, 6. Sem.
From: VICTOR@gribb.hsr.no (Hansen, Thorleif V.    6-93)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Software to format Conner IDE drive?
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:03:47 GMT
Organization: Rogaland University Centre

In article <1992Sep29.142958.18346@uklirb.informatik.uni-kl.de> kirchner@uklira.informatik.uni-kl.de (Reinhard Kirchner) writes:
>From: kirchner@uklira.informatik.uni-kl.de (Reinhard Kirchner)
>Subject: Software to format Conner IDE drive?
>Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:29:58 GMT
>Hello,
>
>I just decided to get a Conner IDE drive, and ... aehemmm, I do only
>have a limited trust in the promise I don't need a low level formating.
>
>So, just for prevention: Can some of these low level tools like DiskManager,
>Spinrite II, Speedstor etc. do a low level format on such a drive ?
>
>Reinhard Kirchner
>Univ. of Kaiserslautern, Germany
>kirchner@informatik.uni-kl.de
>
I have been told that a low level formating on a IDE drive actually makes the
drive unusable, so take care!
From: dab@atlanta.dg.com (David A Busse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Buy a CD-ROM from DAC
Keywords: CD-ROM
Date: 25 Sep 92 13:45:35 GMT
Organization: Data General Corp. ASSD, Atlanta, GA

Has anyone had any experience buying a CD-ROM Drive from the DAC catalog?
Please e-mail me and I'll summarize to this newsgroup.

Thanks!

Dave

-- 
 Dave Busse                          e-mail (work): dab@atlanta.dg.com
 Systems Integration Services      e-mail (school): dab@cc.gatech.edu 
 Data General Corporation              Voice Phone: (404)448-6072
 Norcross, Ga  30092                           FAX: (404)446-2260
 DISCLAIMER: Standard Disclaimers Apply
From: st1r8@rosie.uh.edu (Guillot, Burt J.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: HD light says on constantly!  Is that good?
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:15:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: rosie.29SEP199208152322
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I have recently purchased a 16-bit MFM controller for my Tandy 3000 HL
computer.  It's an AT, 286-8mhz.  However, I've been able to format it
and everything, but I'm having some weird problems.  First though, it
might be helpful to know that I had to disable the onboard floppy
controller to use the one of the hard drive controller (for my 360K).

The main deal is that the hard drive light stays on constantly?  I've
never seen anything like that before.  Will that cause any problems??

Also, I copied some ZIPs over from my other computer's floppy and when
I tried to unZIP them onto the hard drive on the new computer, all
the files came out, but 50% of them had a "CRC error".  That problem
might be linked to the floppies, but if anyone knows why the drive light
stays on, I'd like to know.  (The drive boots fine on its own if anyone
was interesting).
From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: 586?
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:51:01 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson in North America.
              The opinions expressed are strictly those of the user and
              not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article <16206@global.hacktic.nl> peter@global.hacktic.nl (Peter Busser) writes:
>From: peter@global.hacktic.nl (Peter Busser)
>Subject: Re: 586?
>Date: 27 Sep 92 15:15:16 GMT

>markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN) writes:

>>       Actually, the 586 is supposed to be called P5.  But I don't know 
>>what to trust.  A magazine talks about the P5 and another one talks about 
>>the 586.

>Intel called 'it' the P5 because numbers (like 386) are so difficult to
>trademark. Maybe they have moref luck this time than with the iAPX386 which
>everyone calls 80386...

You are partially right, but the 486 was called p4 before it was released 
also.  P5 is only an internal project number, and is not any more 
copyrightable than 586.

Surely they will come out with some flashy name for this new iron.

 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "This must be Thursday.  I never could get the hang of Thursdays"
                                                       - Douglas Adams
  - Patrick Taylor                                       (Arthur Dent)
    Ericsson Network Systems
    exuptr@exu.ericsson.se                       "Don't let the .se fool you"
    or exuptr@ZGNews.Lonestar.Org, exu.exuptr@memo.ericsson.se
From: Greg.Reinacker@FtCollins.NCR.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: 24x in 800*600 32K colors for windows PROBLEM
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:26:06 GMT
Reply-To: Greg.Reinacker@FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM
Organization: NCR Microelectronics, Ft. Collins, CO
In-reply-to: mpalmer@encore.com's message of 23 Sep 92 12:56:05 GMT

>>>>> On 23 Sep 92 12:56:05 GMT, mpalmer@encore.com (Mike Palmer) said:

> HAs anyone sucessfully used a 24X in windows 800*600 32K mode?  I get the top
> and left side missing from the picture.

I've used this mode with no problem...

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Greg Reinacker                          (303) 223-5100 x289
NCR Microelectronic Products Division   VoicePlus 464-1289
2001 Danfield Court                     Greg.Reinacker@FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM
Fort Collins, CO  80525
From: ilay8169@emory.edu (Edward S. Pierce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: CrystalScan 1572FS *and* Re: ATI Graphics Ultra Pro Local Bus...
Date: 3 Oct 92 05:01:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: emoryu1.1085
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

korenek@ferranti.com (gary korenek) writes:
: 
: Gateway's product literature says that Crystal Scan monitors ARE
: made by MAG.
: 
: -- 
: Gary Korenek (korenek@ficc.ferranti.com)
: Ferranti  International  Controls  Corp.
: Sugar Land, Texas          (713)274-535

The Gateway 15" monitor is exactly the same monitor as the
Mag 15" monitor except for the fact that it has a micro-
processor that gets your screen sizes from memory.  I had
both of these monitiors, a number of each, and found them
inadequte (sp?).  Thats why I have a 4fg on my desk now. I

found that the mags had a great deal of barrel distortion, or
pin cushion, as well as having an unfocused image toward the

     outer edges of the screen.  Get the Gateway but tell 'em to
	 hold the monitor and buy one locally.

	 Regards,
	 Edward Pierce ilay8169@unix.cc.emory.edu

edges of the screen.  Get the Gateway but tell the
pin cushion allo
From: markr@spider.co.uk (Mark Rae)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Help With Tape Streamer Board
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:14:47 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

I have in my possesion a wangtek 30850-004 connected to a Wangtek 5099EN24
tape drive which originally came from a Sperry/Unisys PC running Xenix.

Does anyone know what the configuration of the jumpers and switches on the
board are, and whether there are any drivers for the board available
anywhere.

	Mark
Xref: sparky comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:25607 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:13179
From: cma@titan.ucc.umass.edu (COLIN MA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Minor Question about WordPerfect Works
Keywords: metrics benchmarks conversion
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:16:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: nic.BvCIFC.FvH
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

Just a minor question about WordPerfect Works...

Does the spreadsheet that comes with Works have co-
processor support...especially 80287 support?

Thanks,

-----------
Colin
cma@titan.ucc.umass.edu
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: Andrew McCallum <andrewm@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: GRAVIS ULTRASOUND RETAILERS, ANYONE?????????????????????????????
X-To: SAMU MIELONEN
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 01:43:00 GMT

From f1sami@uta.fi (Samu Mielonen)
> A few people have mentioned that the card would sell as low as $130 in some
>places, but I have been unable to get any information on those outfits.

    Actually, anyone who's heard of prices this low please post to this
newsgroup.


---
    .sig's are neat,                   | Andrew McCallum
    .sig's are fun,                     \ andrewm@zooid.guild.org
    .sig's tell where to flame someone.  |andrewm@terranet.cts.com
From: kl2i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kwan-Yong Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: FastData ET-200 ethernet
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:54:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.MemB1wG00aw9I1CUNa
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Hi.  I recently purchased FastData ET-200 16-bit 10base T ethernet card
from Fast Micro.
It was the cheapest I could find and it worked fairly well with PCS and PC/TCP.
I am now trying to make it work with TCP/IP, but I need to know if it is
compatible to any widely-supported ethernet card (Western Digital,
Novell....etc) Has anyone tried it?



Kwan-yong (Steve) Lee
[An Andrew ToolKit view (an animated drawing) was included here, but
could not be displayed.]
From: fred@centauri.ipk.fhg.de (Reinhard Arlt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: ERROR 1701
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:04:49 GMT
Organization: IPK-Berlin, Fraunhofer Gesellschaft, Germany

dernis@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:

>Hi, 
>  I swapped a floppy drive on a 286 computer, and got what is apparently,
>an unrelated problem.
>  The start up goes through the normal testing routine everything is OK,
>checks the first floppy, then the second, all normal, than it gets to
>the hard drive, the light goes on and not off.  Eventually it beeps with
>the number 1701 on the screen.  Shortly afterwards it requests to have
>a disk placed in drive A: and press any key to boot.  I understand this
>as the BIOS not finding being able to communicate with the hard drive.
>I checked and double checked the cables, especially the smaller one, that
>looked like it had been pulled out a bit, but that didn't help.
>The hard disk and floppy disk controllers are separate cards.

>The BIOS is Award BIOS 3.03.

>What could have gone wrong?  Was it just dumb luck that it happened to
>fail when I took the cover off or did I pull something loose?  And what is
>code 1701?

>Thanks in advance,

>Mitch Dernis

There are 3 ideas i have concerning your problem.

1) Did you change the number of drives in your bios setup ?

2) Sometimes it depends on the sequence of the floppy drives.

3) If you add a drive then you should remove the terminating resistors
from your first drive in sequence.

4) The last idea i have has to do with the number 1701 which is also
 the name of a virus ( if you have SCAN , you should be able to check that ).

Reinhard
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:24:46 EDT
From: <GEG108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: HP 500 drivers?

Does any one out there know if HP has developed new drivers for the DeskJet
500.  The drivers provided with the 500C do a good job with the color, and
also provide some resonable greyscale options which the DJ 500 lacks.  If
these drivers exist (for Windows 3.1 & dos application) please post or
E-mail where I can find them (via FTP or through a BBS).

===============================================================================
Gregory E. Gelles          GEG108@psuvm.psu.edu
Computer Engineering
Penn State University                    Nixon in '92
===============================================================================
From: frisk@complex.is (Fridrik Skulason)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: STONED virus in partition table
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:09:55 GMT
Organization: Frisk Software International, Iceland

>>files, delete everything, remove the partitions, create the partitions again,
>>formated the partitions, and loaded the operating system (only boot files),
>>and THE VIRUS IS STILL THERE!!!!!
>>I was told I need to make a low level format.  Can any body tell me how to
>>do that?  

Whoever told you that doesn't know the slightest thing about viruses. A low
level format is NEVER necessary.

Or better, does anybody knows of a software program that would
>>remove the virus from the partition table? 

Easy - Boot from a MS-DOS 5.0 DOS diskette and run "FDISK /MBR"   That's all.

You can of course also use a disinfection program, such as my own F-PROT,
but it is not really necessary for that particular virus.

>2)Stoned is relocating your partition
>table so fdisk writes are being redirected.

Well, if the virus did that, it wouldn't be the "Stoned" virus.   There are
several boot sector viruses that use that trick, but not Stoned.

-frisk
From: t09@clark.edu (Owen Fairfield)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Math Coprocessors
Summary: What do I need?
Date: 30 Sep 92 05:50:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Sep30.055051.24074
Distribution: usa
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA

I am currently using a AMD 386DX-40 and I was considering getting a math 
coprocessor.  I have only owned an ibm for about a month so I do not have
the slightest idea what coprocessor I want.  The main reason I want the 
coprocessor is because I would like to use the probe command on the 
Pspice program and this command requires a coprocessor.  Any input or 
suggestions would be helpful.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: wjm@utrcv1 (Bill)
Subject: TTY Deaf Service?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: United Technologies Research Center
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:40:00 GMT

Before I ask my question, I must give some background info:

I have what is referred to as a 'TTY' device.  Basically it is a small 
computer terminal type device used for communicating over the phone lines 
with some friends who are deaf.

It consists of a keyboard, single line flourescent display, and an 
accoustic coupler for a phone's handset.

As I understand things, the TTY service for the deaf runs at some 
non-standard (per today's modern computer equipment), settings.  I think it 
is something like 75 baudot, which defines its binary character set 
and transmission speed.  (Suppossedly this is still used because the TTY 
service was originally set up by the phone company using old mechanical
teletype devices, and newer TTY units must adhere to the standard for 
compatibility.)

Now for my question:

Is there a product available (or plans for a kit), that would allow me to 
use my PC as a TTY device?

Besides the luxury of a nice keyboard and monitor, it would be convenient 
for storing messages or sending pre-written messages.  (With appropriate 
software.)  And a direct phone connection via my modem would be nicer.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,

+ ><> + ><> + ><> + ><> + ><> + ><> + ><> + ><> + ><> + ><> +
+   __          United Technologies Research Center         +
+  /__)  . / /  Silver Lane MS 74, East Hartford, CT 06108  +
+ /___/_/_/_/_  (203) 727-7484  Internet = WJM@UTRC.UTC.COM +
+   Mazeika                                                 +
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+ God's got an army, not afraid to fight.                   +
+ Soldiers of the cross, and children of the light.         +
+ Warriors of righteousness, with healing in their hands.   +
+ God's got an army, marchin through the land.     -Carman  +
+ <>< + <>< + <>< + <>< + <>< + <>< + <>< + <>< + <>< + <>< +

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.sysv386
From: dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.e.wexelblat)
Subject: Source of good, cheap, bidirectional parallel port?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 12:59:27 GMT
Followup-To: poster

I'm going to be hooking a device to my machine via a bidirectional parallel
interface.  I'm going to be writing a custom Unix driver for it (polling,
so I need to be able to disable the interrupt for the port).  If someone
can recommend a source for such a card (since not all printer ports
actually are bidirectional, I want to be sure before I buy it), please
let me know.  Or a pointer to a circuit would be fine - I can build it
myself, if need be.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
David Wexelblat             | dwex@mtgzfs3.att.com  | Somebody get me a
AT&T Bell Laboratories      | ...!att!mtgzfs3!dwex  |   cheeseburger!
200 Laurel Ave - 4B-421     |                       |      
Middletown, NJ  07748       | (908) 957-5871        | --Steve Miller Band
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: wiegand@rtsg.mot.com (Robert Wiegand)
Subject: Re: EGA without EGA?
Reply-To: motcid!wiegand@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:56:09 GMT

FREE1178@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu writes:

>HI
>I just received a used computer from my father.  When editing the BIOS
>it tells me that an EGA card is installed.  In fact it won't let me
>change that parameter.  However when trying to run EGA applications
>and even trying to program TURBO C using the DETECT feature, EGA is
>not possible.  Any suggestions?
> 
>  Thanks

How about some more information:
	Does the motherboard contain a built-in display driver?
	What type of display do you have?
	What type of display does DETECT report?


-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Robert Wiegand - Motorola Inc.
motcid!wiegand@uunet.uu.net            uunet!motcid!wiegand
Disclamer: I didn't do it - I was somewhere else at the time.
From: kendall@castor (ROB KENDALL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: TV cards
Date: 3 Oct 92 01:39:47 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia


Looking for any information regarding tv cards that allow you to
see cable tv on your vga monitor.

Thanks!

:.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: bolek@viewlogic.com (Boleslaw Ciesielski)
Subject: Cache memory speed
Organization: Viewlogic Systems, Inc., Marlboro, MA
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 13:28:34 GMT


Hi,

I have a question about cache memory speed. What should be the correct
speed for 485DX-50 ? The dealer put 20ns, which seems kind of slow to me,
but I have no real knowledge of this stuff. Any info would be greatly
appreciated!

      Bolek
bolek@viewlogic.com