HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: downloading via ftp
Date: 26 Sep 92 00:29:01 EDT

In article <53945@dime.cs.umass.edu>, lukas@freya.cs.umass.edu (Christopher Lukas) writes:
> of the giant amount of software available via anonymous ftp, but I've
> been having problems.  I only have an old version of pkzip, so I first
> downloaded a bunch of archive utilities to my unix account, then I 
> used kermit to download them to my system.  They didn't run at all.
> I tried it several more times from different ftp servers, but no luck
> with anything at all.  Does anyone know what is wrong?  The files I tried
> to download and run were .exe and .com files, but they just froze my system
> when I ran them.  I checked, and kermit downloads files to and from my system
> with no errors.  Help!
> 
> Chris Lukas
> lukas@cs.umass.edu
> 

You have to download in binary mode. IF you don't set 'bin' before you
download, you will get garbage. Also make sure that kermit is sending
in binary mode as well.

-Garrett
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: Questions about Darklands...
From: brockie@golem.wcc.govt.nz (Roger Brockie)
Date: 26 Sep 1992 20:45:19 +1200
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wellington, NZ
NNTP-Posting-Host: golem.wcc.govt.nz

In article <Bv5GCH.4rw@ucunix.san.uc.edu> carlson@ucunix.san.uc.edu (David Carlson) writes:
>Hi, I've been playing Darklands now for about a week, and I really like
>it!  I have a couple questions, though:
>
>	How long do quests remain valid? The giver of the quest always

Don't know.  Months I think.

>	The second question is related to the above quest.  When it says
>I'm supposed to get something (steal something) from the "goods
>merchant", How would I do that?  Would I just go to the "dealer in
>everyday items" at the marketplace and new information would pop up?
>That's what I tried, but nothing happened.  

Go to the Market place AT NIGHT and breakin to his/her office, or whatever
they had in 15th C Germany.  If you're successful you'll find it there.

Roger


-- 
Roger Brockie, System Manager			      Computer Services Section
brockie@golem.wcc.govt.nz                               Wellington City Council
Telephone +64 4 8013350                                           P.O.Box 2199, 
PSI 0530147000090                                       Wellington, New Zealand
From: dpn2@po.CWRU.Edu (Damien P. Neil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: Key-disk... It's back again!!
Date: 1 Oct 1992 00:10:36 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dpn2@po.CWRU.Edu (Damien P. Neil)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, hchong@netcom.com (Hoi Chong) says:

>I looked at a copy of SWOTL on CD-ROM (with all 4 optional planes).
>It let you copy everything (yes, it only use 3.5meg of the 640meg CD)
>onto your harddrive, BUT, you still need the CD to run it.
>
>Key-disk?  No.  Key-CD!
>
>Is there a way we can put a stop to this trend before it catches on fire? 
>
Yes. Stop piracy.

If you want to put the whole game on your HD, just buy the disk-based
version. It makes complete sense to me that companies would use a 'key-CD'.
Key-disks are a pain in the ass, because anyone can copy them generally. In
addition, disks have the annoying tendance to become corrupt, especially
when left out so that you easily get at them to pass the protection.

Just my 0.125 cents...
-- 
+-------------+------------------+---------------------------------+
| Damien Neil | dpn2@po.cwru.edu | Case Western Reserve University |
+-------------+------------------+---------------------------------+
From: hphri@usho26.hou281.chevron.com (P.H.Rice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: MM4 : Dwarvens mine * Spoiler *
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:19:41 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <1992Oct3.174929.15142@PA.dec.com> le@wldwst.enet.dec.com (Le) writes:
>
>Hi,
>
>  Anybody is playing this game? I'm stuck in the Dwarvens mine #1. The cart
>inside the mine asks me for a destination so that it can take me to the other
>locations. I can't figure out what the password is (It starts A----). If
>you got it, please let me kow. This game is great with a soundblaster Pro,
>yes, the music is stereo! 

Oh, and by the way, can anyone post the stat sheet for the weapons, armor, etc.
I am talking about the one from MM3.  Thanks.  I am working on a list for MM4
and thought they might be the same.

Spoilers


The five basic mines are Mine1, Mine2, Mine3, Mine4, and Mine5.
In each mine, you will find a piece of paper with the next letter in the
Deep Mine Password.


SPOILER
Hit 'n' now if you do not want to know the First Deep Mine Password!!!

ALPHA


Phil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: spschure@cs.ruu.nl (Sjoerd Schurer)
Subject: EOBI Special Quest Bonuses
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:03:30 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science
Keywords: EOB

HELP!!!
I have hints for the special quests in EOBI, but I can't solve some of them.
The following levels were easy: level 3, 4, 5, 6, and level 9; but how do I
solve the rest???

Level 1: The magic that appears to protect may also empower a weapon...
Level 2: Match four of what you have the most with their like.
Level 3: ...Do idols really need to see!
Level 4: The courteous adventurer leaves things as they were, but also keeps
	 the dungeon clean.
Level 5: All adventurers can benefit from a full pantry!
Level 6: Those that are scattered belong together.
Level 7: Find the three that hold the key.
Level 8: Ancient traps may be turned to your advantage.
Level 9: Where it is written, items may pass where you may not.
Level 10: Replace the treasure with that which the drow treasure.
Level 11: Those second from the ends must differ from the rest.

I especially want to know how to do level 10 and 11, so I can get the best
equipment possible (which I can use again in EOBII).



      It is a sin to believe evil of others, but it is seldom a mistake.
							(H.L. MENCKEN)



Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: amd52705@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Adrian)
Subject: help with DQK
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 20:51:46 GMT
Keywords: dark queen krynn

I have been playing this game for a while.  Currently I am trying 
to finish the lighthouse.  I can get to the elenenth level, but the
door there is locked and I cannot get passed it.  I have searched
the entire tower for anything htat I could use.  I can't seem to 
figure it out.  Any help would be appreciated.

					Thanks,
					  Adrian
From: swkgohw@nuscc.nus.sg (Goh Winston (Mr))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Ross Erickson
Date: 28 Sep 92 10:24:26 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore

Well met Ross,

Hey!  My mail to thee keeps getting bounced!!!  The message reads that
thy mailer is unknown! What gives??!!  Now there art about 3 or 4
messages, including the notorious 2nd message, that have been bounced.

I've already finished the review for Conflict: Korea, but that got
bounced right back a couple of minutes ago!!

Send an e-mail to me to see if it gets through! Right now, it seems that
we art fated not to communicate :(

					Sir Launcelot Du Lake
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: kasycz@geod.emr.ca (Ray Kasycz)
Subject: D/GENERATION PATCH (install.exe)
Keywords: D/GENERATION PATCH
Organization: Dept. of Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:09:28 GMT

This will allow you to patch the INSTALL.EXE for D/Generation. You can 
then make copies of the master diskettes because the install will no
longer look for the hidden/system file on the original diskettes that
can't be easily copied by standard techniques. The patch works for the 
following file;
               install.exe  38588  09-29-91  6:44a
look for the bytes:
                    2F 19 C4 04 B3
replace with:
                    2C 19 C4 04 B3
look for the bytes:
                    E3 6E 02
replace with:
                    B3 0B 09

I hope I got the bits and bytes right. If not, get back to me. Well that's
all fine and dandy but what I would like to know is if there are any command
line switches, debug key access portals, cheats or patches that make the 
game easier to play. I like the little universe they created and I would 
like to explore it but not subject to the usual constraints...
                            
                              over and out but not down 
--
Ray Kasycz                                          
Geodetic Survey of Canada           \                            \
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada              \  Towards Better Gaming...  \
Internet: kasycz@geod.emr.ca          \                            \
Xref: sparky comp.sys.ibm.pc.games:15599 rec.games.programmer:4096 comp.sys.amiga.games:13621
From: 10703306@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (JAMES VINCENT)
Subject: Jack Nicklaus Courses
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 03:03:23 GMT

If anyone's interested in sending a few of these around I'm keen to swap 
courses...I assume it's legal to do so.
From: peters@CS.ColoState.EDU (eric peters)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: PKZIP?! Help! I'm confused!
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:52:46 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <1992Oct6.171957.27516@ugle.unit.no> fabian@alkymi.unit.no (Fabian Gonzalez) writes:
>The latest version of PkZip is v1.93a. Any version above this (e.g. v2.01) is a
>fake.

Yea, and the "a" ub v1.93a means "alpha".  Are you sure you want to use "alpha"
software?  The safest bet is to use v1.10.
-- 
Eric Peters   
peters@CS.Colostate.EDU
From: dpn2@po.CWRU.Edu (Damien P. Neil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: The Immortal - level 4 trouble
Date: 5 Oct 1992 22:08:03 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dpn2@po.CWRU.Edu (Damien P. Neil)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, psycho@asl.uni-bielefeld.de (christoph schillo) says:

>I've got an urgent question regarding 'The Immortal' by Electronic Arts:
>
>*little spoiler ahead*
>
>
>
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>
>How am I supposed to place the fraggin' rings in the lowest room on the fourth
>level to meet the exit condition ?
>I've found ana's ring and gave it to her, got another one in exchange and the 
>hint to 'place three rings clockwise round the triangle'.
>My rings are: 'Duric's', 'protean' and 'from ana'. It took me MANY 'another
> game ? yes/no's to get through the flamethrower rooms only to end up in this
>mess.
>Is there any significance in the fight between the two trolls and the goblin 
>which I always failed to save ?
>

It's been a while since I played this game, but as I remember it has
nothing to do with the rings. What you want are gems. Hope this helps.
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games,rec.games.programmer,comp.sys.amiga.games
From: itwill@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Torsten Will)
Subject: Re: ultimate role-playing game: Midgard
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 19:08:33 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Technische Fakultaet.

You don't like D&D or AD&D, because the is not much role-playing in it?
Try Midgard -- a german product. I think, that it is not well-known in the States,
isn't it? 
I play Midgard a couple of years, after I tried other role playing games, and I
say, it is the ultimate! It is complex -- but do not have 199 books of rules, like
AD&D 2nd Edition.

If anyone want to make a ultimate computer role playing game, he (she) should read the
Midgard manuals an play it a couple of times.

Tschau, Torsten!
itwill@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: keith@DIALix.oz.au (Keith Johnson)
Subject: Re: Civ: Democracy is a messad
Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 03:35:05 GMT

In <1992Oct3.080023.10013@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> jao@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (James A. Ollinger) writes:

><1992Sep24.122020.10994@waikato.ac.nz> <80844@ut-emx.uucp>
>Distribution: na 
>Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix, Sacramento, Ca.
> 
> 
>I concur with advice given elsewhere:  I stay in Republic and be done with
>it.  According to the book Civilization: or Rome on 640K a Day (this is an
>excellent book.  Lots of charts and commentary.  This will answer almost
>any question on the AI, formulas used, and good strategy tips.  I highly
>recommend it.  Most of the questions I've seen can be answered from the
>book), here's what you get with various forms of government:
> 
>Despotism:  -1 to food, resources, and trade.  You get the highest
>corruption rate.  But you get 1 food requirement for settler support, and
>free military support.  You also get content citizens with military
>presence, and the senate won't force you into a peace treaty or deny you
>first strike capability.
> 
Actually it is only -1 to food/resource/trade if it goes higher than 2
per city square....

>Anarchy:  Same as despotism, but the corruption rate is a little lower.
> 
>Monarchy:  No modifier to food, resources, or trade (which means it's a +1
>if you're moving up from anarchy or despotism).  Corruption is lower than
>anarchy.  Military support is 1 coin per unit.  2 food units for each
>settler unit.

Therefore Monarchy isn't plus 1 to all food/resource/trade.
BTW: Does anyone use Monarchy?

Keith.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: benyob@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Brett R. Benyo)
Subject: Re: eye of the beholder
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:02:18 GMT

In article <vvur-pj.6@ee.up.ac.za> vvur-pj@ee.up.ac.za (p j van vuren) writes:
>I have the game but I do not know how to play it.  Can somebody out there 
>please help me (choosing characters, how to fight, how to use magic spells, 
>etc.). 
>This is not a joke this is for real!! 
>
>ESHK


RTFM

If you do not know how to play, you must not have read the manual, which
means that you probably do not have the manual because you have a pirated
version of the game.  Try going to a store, shelling out $40 like any
law abiding citizen, and then reading the manual will tell you everything
that you need to know.  


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Like I always say, there's nothing an agnostic can't do if he doesn't know
whether he believes in anything or not.

Brett Benyo    Email - benyob@rpi.rpi.edu

I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition...
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From: odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: WC II Fixes?
Date: 30 Sep 92 08:48:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Sep30.084847.22442
Organization: The Stuffed Animal Trauma Team  (We're Trained Professionals)


> {bits about WCII only letting you use IRQ 7 deleted}

  Maybe I have a different version of WCII;  I don't know...  My Soundblaster
  is on IRQ 3 and WCII works just fine.  I don't recall having to do anything
  special to get it, either.

  Just so's you know.
-- 
 --------------------------------- Iain Odlin ---------------------------------
                  10 Crosby Street, Level 3, Portland ME 04103
                                 odlin@reed.edu
 ----------- "Don't ask me how it works or I'll start to whimper." ------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System)
Subject: Re: U7 and Dr Dos.  Help, please!
Organization: DSIR, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 04:38:27 GMT

In article <29310006@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com> franks@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Frank Slootweg CRC) writes:

>slp66@cc.usu.edu (Matt) writes :

>I just loaned a friend my copy of Ultima 7.  He runs Doctor Dos.  Now, he 
>says that he can't install it.  Is U7 incompatable with DR DOS?

I run DRDOS 6 with Ultima 7. I can run it fine so long as I don't use a disk 
cache. As to your installation problems, note that ultima7 requires that you 
remove EMM386.SYS to run the game.
From: Russell_Owsianski@mindlink.bc.ca (Russell Owsianski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Oblivion crack needed
Date: 2 Oct 92 03:02:15 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Well, if finally happened, I've been screwed by a corrupt key-disk for an old
game.
The game is 'Space Station Oblivion' by Epyx (1988).  If anyone has a crack
for this (or knows where one is available by ftp) please e-mail me.
Also, if anyone knows an email address for epyx (are they still around?)
please let me know.  Thanks in advance...

Finally- What's up with the romulus 'crack' ftp site, I was able to connect,
but it asked for a password for ftp access (it didn't do that the last time I
called, but that was a while ago).
                                                         /
/23                                                       /____
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: linet2@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Lord Eugster)
Subject: Re: Stopping Piracy... 70% rule
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:26:20 GMT

I do not see software vendors 'reducing' prices to combat piracy.  If people
are willing to buy software at its current prices, why should the vendor
reduce its price?  Sure companies may be losing money because of piracy, but
I seriously doubt anyone can convince a company to reduce the price if everyone
stops pirating.

Some vendors say that they have already tried reducing the price in an effort
to combat piracy, but without widespread support, such a ploy does not work.

The bottom line is that a vendor has no real reason to reduce its prices:
enough people are willing to legitimately buy the product now such that the
vendor makes a hefty profit, even with the current levels of piracy.

Eugster
From: s613012466@cerritos.edu (Robert Vandeventer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: Ultima 7 : Pagan Lord Voice
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:11:13 PST
Organization: Cerritos College, Norwalk CA

In article <1992Oct5.165245.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>, slaud@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
> To those who are interested in hearing the VOICE of Pagan Lord:
> 
> This is extracted from Ultima 7 's sound data file. Somewhere
> between the 800000th position and 1400000th position there is
> a recorded voice which was reversed. (I think you can hear it
> when viewing the 'credits' of Ultima 7 in the main menu ).
> Anyway, I managed to extract and reverse it. It says,
> 
>      " I AM THE PAGAN LORD "
> 
> ... as mentioned by someone. Those people that are interested
> here is the file data zipped up. Use UUDECODE to decode it.
> < note : The following data are copyrighted data of ORIGIN.
>          It is not for money-earning purposes, so please do
>          NOT use it in any other ways except for you ears
>          only. Respect the hard work of the team.
>>
> 
> You will need a VOC player to hear this.
> 

       [Stuff Deleted]


> 
> ------------------------ CUT BELOW --------------------------
> begin 666 pagan.zip

         [Stuff Deleted]

>  
> end

Ok.  How do you decode this file, what is uucode????, what does .tar mean,  ect...
Yes, I am woking on a VAX (unix), and yes, I do have an IBM (486).  Any help, Please???

Robert Vandeventer
S613012466@Cerritos.edu
Rev@Qed.cts.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: wunner@nova.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de (Guenter Wunner)
Subject: Re: GAME BYTES: New article types wanted!!
Organization: TAT (Theoretical Astrophysics Tuebingen), U. of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:05:33 GMT

ross@kaos.b11.ingr.com (Ross Erickson) writes:

>>>Actually, no the filesize of Game Bytes (zipped) will never go beyond
>>>1.44MB.  Actually, my intention is to make it always fit on a 1.2 MB
>>>disk too.  Until I get to CD-ROM publishing.  muuhahahaha.  Wicked
>>>laugh.  Then you'll be blown away.  Stick with your 1.44 MB drives.
>>>It will do you fine by me, anyway.
>>
>>Why would this matter?  Its not like anyone runs on a floppy-only system
>>nowadays anyways... I mean, whats the use of reading a review on Ultima 7
>>if there is no chance your system can play it?  :)

>Because if you're on a workstation and you ftp it, how do you get it
>to your PC that ISN'T on the same network.  Floppy-net...

No, easier! Try PC-NFS from SUN Microsystems! I have all my games
(especially the larger ones, e.g. KQ5, WC2, etc.) on the 1.4 GigaByte
HD connected to our SUN Sparcstation. With PC-NFS I can mount this
directory on the PC and play just as usual. All you need is PC-NFS
(the software), an ethernet card in your PC and this one connected to
your LAN. The transmission rates are even higher than with your
run-of-the-mill HD. I highly recommend PC-NFS.

Lukas.

        *** Lukas Wunner, Hustadtring 143, 4630 Bochum, West-Germany ***
      *** lukas@trillian.tp1.ruhr-uni-bochum.de / lukas@134.147.160.21 ***
    *** "To err is human, but to really fuck things up takes a computer" ***
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: enander@elixir.e.kth.se (Lars Enander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: RISK for Windows Settings
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:16:18 GMT
Reply-To: enander@elixir.e.kth.se (Lars Enander)
Organization: School of EE, Royal Institute of Technology, Sweden

Hello World!

Could anyone tell me the settings for RISK in win.ini / system.ini or any other 
settings-file ?
I would like the game to use my Sound Blaster  ...

Thanks,
 
Lars
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: Civ: Selling the Palace
From: estewar1@husc9.harvard.edu (Eric Stewart)
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:10:47 EDT
Distribution: World
Organization: Harvard University Science Center
Keywords: civilisation, civ

In article <mdanjou.717965368@chicoutimi> mdanjou@chicoutimi.ulaval.ca (Martin D'Anjou) writes:
>What will happen if I sell the Palace
>to get more money? (200 gold pieces)?
>
>Martin d'Anjou
>mdanjou@gel.ulaval.ca
>
>PS: Where can I get the documentation for this game?
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
How can people read this group and still ask this question?  I've never
jumped in before, but here goes... :)

Please, can I be the first to say it?  Thanks!

BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!

Sigh...  this game is worth the price.  Maybe where you are, you can't 
find it, but try mail order.  Piracy drives up the price for those of
us who buy the games, and makes the companies put annoying copy protection
on them.  Just say no to piracy!  (Eat your heart out, Nancy.)

Eric J. Stewart                     estewar1@husc.harvard.edu
From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: Strike Commander Demo
Date: 2 Oct 92 09:20:52 GMT
X-Phone: +44 703 593257

In <1992Sep30.190309.17902@cs.yale.edu> randall-joshua@CS.YALE.EDU (Joshua Randall) writes:

>Strike Commander Demo has been put back on Wash. Univ.'s FTP server:
>wuarchive.wustl.edu

>/pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS

>strike.zip     --->  the demo (more of a promo really)
>strike.txt     --->  stuff about "strike.zip"
>strike1.gif    --->  a .gif of SC
>strike2.gif    --->  another .gif of SC

.txt and both .gifs are there, but no .zip :-(

Tim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: nwang@black.clarku.edu (The freak)
Subject: MM3
Organization: Clark University (Worcester, MA)
Date:  3 Oct 92 00:40:38 GMT

Finished MM3 a long time ago, and mailed the secret word to new world
computing.  And they send me back a advertisement for MM4 and nothing
eles!  Just wandering, what you get once you finished the game?

Andy.
From: slp66@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Wanted, Civilization & SimAnt
Date: 4 Oct 92 09:18:00 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

Hi, 

I'd like to buy a copy of Civilization.  Anybody out there wanna sell?  I'd
also appreciate a review on it, if anybody as any opinions about the game.  How
does it compare to, say, SimCity?  Also, any opinions on SimAnt?



Thanks

Matt

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