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From: trevor@telesoft.com (Trevor Bourget @ignite)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Mapping A Window To A Process
Date: 13 Nov 92 11:30:05 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: TeleSoft, San Diego, CA, USA

Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 21:59:36 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov7.215936.14232@telesoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In <1992Nov7.105306.20140@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse) writes:

>In article <Bx7oBI.5IG@cs.columbia.edu>,
>haupt@cs.columbia.edu (Marcus E. Haupt) writes:

>> I would like to know if anyone has come across a method to find
>> the UNIX pid of a process given only a window ID

...
Deleted long explanation of why it's so difficult and dirty that
it's not worth doing.
...

If you have a certain set of applications that you care about, you
can have them put properties (XSetTextProperty) on their top-level
window indicating useful information like USER and PID.

It would have been nice if these had been part of the WM protocol
standard (like MACHINE, NAME, and COMMAND are).

-- Trevor Bourget (trevor@telesoft.com)
From: berry@athos.pei.com (Berry Kercheval)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: MS-DOS X-windows? Where?
Date: 10 Nov 92 11:46:00 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Protocol Engines, Inc., Mt. View, California

Date: 4 Nov 92 16:54:18 GMT
Message-Id: <BERRY.92Nov4115418@athos.pei.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

>>>>> On 4 Nov 92 00:48:36 GMT, jharvey@csulx.weber.edu (Just me) said:
Justin>      I noticed that you can get X-windows for Macintosh, Unix, VMS
Justin> and also MS-DOS, but all the packages I have found for DOS are
Justin> commercial.  Are there any public domain X systems?? And if so,
Justin> where can I find them?


As far as I know there aren't any public domain OR freely
distributable (they aren't the same...)  X Servers that run under
MS-DOS. 

However, since I have written one commercial version and it's been
more than a year since I, um, severed connections with that company,
I've been contemplating doing a freely distributable version based on
(most likely) the MIT R5 sample server, the djgcc DOS version of GCC
and ka9q/pcip/packet driver software, all freely available.

I'm not promising anything, but I'm kind of interested in the level of
interest out there, and what features are MUST HAVES, such as hot-key
to DOS, local clients, WINDOWS support (yecch) and so on.

If anyone interested sends me a brief note I will tabulate the results
in some way and post a summary of "what people really want" from a
MS-DOS X Server.

Who knows, I may even do it!

  --berry

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From: root@hpwala.wal.hp.com
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: List of X Window Systems for PC
Date: 9 Nov 92 10:47:32 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company

Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 11:54:43 GMT
Message-Id: <3873@hpwala.wal.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Hi,

I am new to X Windows running on PC's and thought that it wouldn't happen
until MIT had ported it to the PC.

Can you provide a list of the X Window systems that are available now for PC's?

What is the most reliable ones and what aren't?

Is there one currently being developed that will surpass others in quality.

Can unix X windows source portable to this PC X Window System?

Thanks
Ken
From: cary@esl.com (Cary Jamison)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Reversing colors for printing
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:35:20 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: ESL Inc, A Subsidiary of TRW

Date: 6 Nov 92 19:28:13 GMT
Message-Id: <1697@esl.ESL.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.hp

Is there an easy way of switching the black and white colors of the output
of xwd and/or xwd2sb before sending the output on to a printer?  The
command used is:

xwd -frame | xwd2sb | pcltrans <various options> | lp

Where the pcltrans options are specific for either a color PaintJet or
LaserJet printer.  Somewhere in this pipe, I would like to switch the black
and white colors so the windows printed don't waste so much ink (they have
black backgrounds).  pcltrans is used instead of xpr because it provides
better quality output for the HP printers.

For one of the windows we tried temporarily switching the colormap within
the application.  This works for xwd but not for xwd -frame.  HP admits
this is a bug in their xwd but is unwilling to fix it because noone else
needs it (I'm really growing to love HP support lately)!  I tried xwd from
a Sun and it has the same behavior.  There is extra information in the title
bar, which is why we need the -frame option.

A workaround is to do
xwd | xwud
then do
xwd -frame ...
on the xwud window.  This is unacceptable for us since these commands are
executed as the result of the end user hitting a PRINT button.  It would
not do to suddenly have another window pop up that the user would have to
click in again.

So, I'm back to looking at switching the colormaps in the xwd or xwd2sb
output.  This would be a preferable solution since it would be more
general, also (it would work for all our windows without the individual
applications having to explicitly switch their colormaps).

I'm not an X programmer, but got stuck with finishing this task up for
our end user.  That's why I'm hoping someone out there may have a fairly
simple solution they can share with me and I don't have to plow through
manuals figuring out xwd or xwd2sb.

Thank you.

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From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Sending X events between processes
Date: 13 Nov 92 12:51:59 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines

Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 23:47:42 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov7.234742.15244@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Nov6.051103.22995@colorado.edu>, crosby@juliet.cs.colorado.edu (CROSBY MATTHEW JAME) writes:

> I have written a program that initialises the X windows stuff, and
> then forks().  I am attempting to send events from the parent to the
> child process, but they don't seem to be processed.  I am using Xlib,
> and the XSendEvent function.  Is this impossible?  Is there something
> I am missing?

You haven't given enough information.  Since you explicitly mention
that you initialize X before forking, I assume that both processes are
using the same Display connection.  This *will not work* - or rather,
making it work is so extremely hard that if you had any hope of doing
it, you'd perforce know enough that you wouldn't need to ask what you
did.

What you need to do is for one of the processes to open a new
connection and use that.  (You may want to close the old one, but do it
carefully: don't use XCloseDisplay.  Instead, use
close(XConnectionNumber(theolddisplay)).)  Alternatively, you can have
one process do all the X stuff and have it communicate with the other
process via a pipe...

					der Mouse

			    mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
From: upton@fcsparc2.ncifcrf.gov (Kyle Upton)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: mouse tracking magnifier wanted
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:36:15 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center

Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 19:25:10 GMT
Message-Id: <Bx7Hxz.J75@ncifcrf.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


I recall an OpenWindows demo that magnified whatever was under the
mouse as the mouse moved around the screen.  Does anything like this
exist for X. (I checked the FAQ and didn't see anything.)

Kyle Upton
upton@ncifcrf.gov
From: censwm@cend3c7.caledonia.hw.ac.uk (Stuart W Munn)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: XGOLF
Date: 10 Nov 92 23:04:49 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

Date: 10 Nov 92 16:12:47 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov10.161247.27255@cs.hw.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I am looking for the source of XGOLF. I got a copy from an archive in Finland, but it is incomplete. Has anyone got a working version of this, the please E-mail me

Thanks.

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From: bibhas@pico.engr.mun.ca (Bibhas Bhattacharya)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Compiling aXe. anything wrong?
Date: 12 Nov 92 01:56:11 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland

Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:55:24 GMT
Message-Id: <bibhas.721065324@femto.engr.mun.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

ip217@brems.ii.uib.no (Torgeir Veimo) writes:

>Help!

>When i try to compile aXe version 3.1 on our sun 3/50s here, i get the message

>[...]
>cc -c -O   -I/usr/include  -I.     -DHELPDIR=\"/usr/lib/X11\" AxeEditor.c
>"AxeEditor.c", line 1728: object undefined
>Compilation failed
>*** Error code 1
>make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `AxeEditor.o'

>Have I set something wrong in the Makefile or what? everything else compiles
>just fine. Any Clues?

>-- 
>Torgeir Veimo

I too failed to compile aXe in the wee hours of this morning. I was too
sleepy to remember what went exactly wrong, I think an undefined function.
Does it use some special tool kit we don't have here?
Bibhas.
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From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Heard of ``X-Kit'' (X server & NFS client for DOS)
Date: 5 Nov 92 09:47:07 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines

Date: Sun, 1 Nov 92 09:24:49 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov1.092449.27642@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc,comp.windows.x,comp.protocols.nfs

In article <RPB.92Oct30145712@brain.psy.ox.ac.uk>, rpb@psy.ox.ac.uk (Ray Bellis) writes:
> In article <1c6g0aINNpu6@almaak.usc.edu> ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes:

>> I see this ad on page 40 of the October SunExpert. [product which]
>>    - provides a NFS client to mount a dos drive on Unix

Sounds more like a server than a client to me.  The NFS server is the
machine with the disk, the client is the machine that mounts it.

Note the Followup-To: header.

					der Mouse

			    mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
From: pf@artcom0.north.de (Peter Funk)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Reclaiming Memory (was Re: FLAME, FLAME ON X!!!)
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:35:16 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Atelier f. Computergrafik, Bremen(FRG)

Date: 12 Nov 92 09:18:55 GMT
Message-Id: <4401@artcom0.north.de>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In <1992Nov10.173203.10719@dsd.es.com> pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz) writes:
[...deleted...]
> Yes but this doesn't sound like what the guy's describing. If this is
> just free() only freeing memory back to the process, then starting the
> same X client over again and walking it through the same sequence of
> tasks should not cause the server process size to grow, because the
> memory it freed before is still available to it.

> The story as originally posted sounded like a server leak, and I
> certainly don't know of this being a "well-known bug" in any vendor's
> X implementation.

This could be a more general problem of `malloc' and `free' :
heap fragmentation !

Imagine an program displaying images in different sizes and zoom
levels:  After releasing a big chunk of memory occupied by an image
buffer, it may be picked up by following "small" malloc requests, so
that the remainder of this block gets to small for the allocation of
the next image buffer.  Since malloc can't do any "garbage collection"
or "heap compaction" (as far as I know) there will be problem !

If there are any standard solutions out there, I am not aware of,
I would be glad to here about them.

Regards, Peter
Note: The usual "english_is_not_my_native_language"-disclaimer applies
      to this "kraut"-babble.
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From: guru@camelot.bradley.edu (Jerry Whelan)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Looking for an Interactive User Interface Builder
Date: 6 Nov 92 10:34:34 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: The Smelly Ditch

Date: 5 Nov 92 16:48:27 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov5.164827.24259@bradley.bradley.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif


	Try SUIT from UVA.  Send mail to suit@uvacs.cs.virginia.edu
to find out where to ftp it from.

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From: gt8741b@prism.gatech.edu (Chris Adams)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Disappering Icons
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:18:14 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Date: Mon, 2 Nov 92 16:02:33 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov2.160233.15330@riacs.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

How can I keep my icons from disappearing?  I an using Openwindows 2.0 on a 
Sun SPARCstation IPX.  I am using twm (not sure what version).  What happens is
this:  At random, icons will disappear, especially the console xterm's icon.
The xterm (or other program) will still be running in the background, but there
will be no way to bring it up.  Help!
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From: Peter_Imants_Buttuls@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Problem with controlling window size
Date: 13 Nov 92 19:56:16 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 11:30:24 MST
Message-Id: <3329728@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca>

I put the following question to the MAPLE (a mathematical package 
that supports X under the xmaple command) consulting group and
received no answer:
Why is it that I can control the size, position of the top-level
window in xmaple by putting the following command in my .Xdefaults
file:
Maple*Geometry:500x100-0+0
but when I use the plot command and xmaple
creates a "plotting window", that window's size, position cannot be 
controlled by the above command. I'm using Openwindows 3 on a
Sparcstation 1.
Any suggestions what I should try next. THANKS.
 
Peter Buttuls, University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada 
e-mail:(userpib@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
From: juando@cnm.us.es
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Subject: Re: Building X11R5 on Convex
Date: 13 Nov 92 05:06:23 GMT
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>X-Envelope-to: JRowe@cen.ex.ac.uk, xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu

In article <BxM2zv.9wL@cen.ex.ac.uk> JRowe@cen.ex.ac.uk (J.Rowe) writes:

>
>Has anyone actually managed this trick? When I try make World it
>pretty quickly bombs out because Convex's cpp can't concatenate
>strings (I'm running ConvexOS 9.1).
>
>I've tried manually massaging a few files, eventually I can build
>libX11.a but it doesn't work! Of course, Convex charge extra for their
>version of X so I guess that gives them an incentive to stop you being
>able to build your own. Convex used to believe in open systems and
>compatiblity. Then again, in the UK they used to believe in
>technical support too. :-(
>
>Dr. John Rowe
>Dept. Physics
>Exeter University
>U.K.

We finally did it here, but it was pretty hard. Most of the files were
compiled using gcc. I don't remember exactly, but I think a few files failed,
and those were compiled with the native C compiler. Anyway it is possible
to do it. If you have interest I'll try to find out something more or direct
you to people in charge of this. I believe someone took notes of the process.

Regards.
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From: smith@compound.se (Bjorn Smith)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: SVR4 system hangs when running XView3 !?
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:22:38 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Compound Systems AB

Date: 5 Nov 92 07:53:30 GMT
Message-Id: <Bx8GL6.2y5@compound.se>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.open-look

We have successfully compiled and installed XView3 (as from the X11R5 contrib
tape) with the following patches:
-rw-rw-rw-   1 smith    other      37426 Oct 19 07:54 xview3.diff.01
-rw-rw-rw-   1 smith    other        949 Oct 19 07:53 xview3.diff.02
-rw-rw-rw-   1 smith    other       1218 Oct 19 07:53 xview3.diff.03
-rw-rw-rw-   1 smith    other        745 Oct 19 07:53 xview3.diff.04

The environment is USL SVR4.0.3 (Consensys) and X11R5 pl17 + XFree86-1.1.diff.

Everythings seems to work fine but after a while the system freezes !?
(The pointer cannot be moved av the X386 server cannot be restarted.)
Only pressing reset button on the machine helps.

Has the problem been observed elsewhere ?
Are there any other patches that should be applied ?

Many thanks in advance for any kind of help !

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From: jsixt@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Johannes Sixt)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Building X11R4 clients under Aix3.
Date: 9 Nov 92 11:28:52 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: RISC, J.K. University of Linz, Austria

Date: Wednesday, 4 Nov 1992 12:06:24 CET
Message-Id: <19921104.120624107653.NETNEWS@ALIJKU11>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <33079@sophia.inria.fr>, mallet@simpolis.fr (Lionel Mallet) writes:
> Recently, we went to Aix3.2, and got back our X clients, including Imake and
> the
> lib/X11/config dir. But we're no longer able to build a Makefile starting from
> its Imakefile.
>
> We had located the right cpp on /lib/cpp but it cannot process files where there
> are lines
> starting with a C comment followed by a sharp sign (/**/#), like for instance
> Imake.tmpl.
>
> It also appears that even the Gnu 2.2.2 cpp is unusable for that case.
>
> Any hints on how, except toggling off the comments in all Imake files, to be
> able to use cpp
> with Imake?
Try /usr/lpp/X11/Xamples/util/cpp/cpp.

-- Hannes
From: thole@cs.rulimburg.nl (Johan Thole)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: SUMMARY: X on two screens using cgfour and bwtwo
Date: 4 Nov 92 22:29:43 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Limburg, Maastricht

Date: 4 Nov 92 14:27:39 GMT
Message-Id: <thole.720887259@cs.rulimburg.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.windows.x

My original question:

>Hello,

>We have just installed SunOS 4.1.1 (previously running SunOS 4.1)
>on our Sun3's and have re-installed
>X11R4 and Motif. Our Sun3/60's have a bwtwo and a cgfour framebuffer.

>The previous sysadmin (not working here anymore) had installed X11R4 so
>that X was running on two screens (a color-screen on the cgfour and a
>bw-screen on the bwtwo). We have not been able to get this behaviour back
>after the new installation. Have we configured something in the wrong way?

Thanks to:

Jorgen.Eriksson@eua.ericsson.se
Andreas Koppenhoefer

and other people from whom I haven't received mail yet.

Jorgen.Eriksson@eua.ericsson.se suggest modifying ``serverargs'' in
the script ``startx''. We have been fiddling around with them without
succes. So this does not work in our specific situation.

Andreas Koppenhoefer suggest throwing away "/dev/bwtwo0". Bingo!
After renaming "/dev/bwtwo0" everything works fine.

Thanks again to all who have responded,

Johan Thole.
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From: pfuetz@igd.fhg.de (Matthias Pfuetzner)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Anybody out there knowing a UIMS that has a tool called "gxv"?
Date: 12 Nov 92 03:28:39 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Zentrum fuer Graphische Datenverarbeitung, Darmstadt, FRG

Date: 9 Nov 92 15:03:43 GMT
Message-Id: <1687@igd.fhg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps,alt.toolkits.xview,comp.windows.open-look


Hi, there!

Last week we got our IMS video boards IMS1000 and IMS1001 for our
SparcStation. The demo software includes a program that seems to be being
build with some sort of UIMS.

All the *.[ch] files include a line

This file was generated by `gxv' from `video3.G'.

The application itself is an XView application.

The FLAGS (C- and LD) section in the Makefile include references to
-I/sw/tools/guide/sun4/include, -L/sw/tools/guide/sun4/lib, -lguide -lguidexv.

So it seems as if this product is called something like GUIDE.

If there is anybody out there who can give me more information on this
product, please send it to me!

Thanks in advance,
Sincerly,
        Matthias
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From: csb960dean@qut.edu.au (Michael Dean)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Widget TREE program
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:45:06 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

Date: 6 Nov 92 20:04:50 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov6.150450.58010@qut.edu.au>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x



G'day

	Thanks to 1E+6 and 1 people who responded to my original post, about
a widget TREE program and the responses all said to use the editres program,
but unfortunatley editres is part of the R5 version of X and we have R4
at our site, so I was wondering is there a program similar to editres
available???

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