Organization: The Leader Desslok School of Diplomacy
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 01:29:31 EDT
From: Norman St. John Polevaulter <MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Politics (was Re: Perot ?)
 <1992Aug13.012335.2337@usl.edu> <BswH86.In@dptspd.sat.datapoint.com>
 <1992Aug13.023944.4113@usl.edu>

Well, like Reagan said before invading Grenada: "Well, why not? I mean,
you know, what the heck?"

In article <1992Aug13.023944.4113@usl.edu>, das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel
A) says:
>
>In article <BswH86.In@dptspd.sat.datapoint.com>
>dscharfe@dptspd.sat.datapoint.com (David Scharfe) writes:
>Comparitively, don't you think that conservatism is much more
>libertarian than liberalism?  Wasn't Reagan the most libertarian
>president we've had in a long long time?

This is the sort of comment that gives Libertarianism a bad name. I mean,
to an uninitiated observer (such as me) who sees how Reagan stomped all over
personal civil liberties while sparing no effort to free big business from
the burdensome tasks of providing a decent workplace and product... well, one
might be forgiven for getting the impression that Republicans care
much, much more about destroying all limits to corporate power and much,
much less about an individual person's civil and human rights. This
despite all rhetoric to the contrary.

Now is this really the sort of thing a good Libertarian would want to be
associated with?

[snip]

>What does that have to do with Reagan being the key to the end of the Cold
>War?

He was? (There you go again...)

>>That the B-2 was and likely still is incapable of fulfilling this
>>role is manifest.
>
>Sure it could.  The role a nuclear bomber plays is for hitting target after
>the initial ICBM/sub waves, after which point the ONLY radar capable of
>detecting the B-2 would be presumably destroyed.

The whole idea of nuclear bombers always struck me as, well, stupid, frankly.
Given that the only time when they'd be used is as part of an all-out global
nuclear war, by the time one had lumbered over to Godless Communist territory
the whole place would already have been incinerated to a fine ash by the
thousands upon thousands of ICBM and sub-mounted warheads the US had already
fired. And then they could turn back, having used their own ordinance to
make the rubble bounce prettily indeed, and try and find an intact landing
strip somewhere in North America to land on and a military command to report
back to. Absolutely useless, almost insane in fact.

>*Dan Stephenson   das9674@usl.edu
>*"It reminds me of something Cally said. 'He who trusts cannot be
>*betrayed, only mistaken.' It was a saying of her people.... Cally is
>*dead. So are most of her people." -Avon, from _Rescue_ (Blakes 7)

Hmm -- as Ian Shoals would say, is this trendy cynicism, or cynical
trendiness?

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