From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,ca.politics
Subject: Re: What to do about Colorado
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:17:39 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <100750@bu.edu>, kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star) writes:
# I'm particularly depressed about Colorado passing Measure 2.  Mike
# will vouch that it put quite a damper on an otherwise pleasant
# evening.
# 
# I take _some_ comfort in that it looks clearly unconstitutional.
# Time to hit the courts.
# 
# (Justification, the 14th Amendment, Section 1:
# 
#     1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States,
#        and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the
#        United States and of the States wherein they reside.  No State
#        shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the
#        privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor
#        shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or
#        property without due process of law, nor deny to any person
#        within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
# 
# Measure 2 denies gay, lesbian, and bisexual people equal protection
# of the laws.  You could also make a strong case that the measure
# abridges GLB people's privlileges and deprives them of their
# liberty.  Disclaimer: as you can tell, I'm not a lawyer.)

Nice try.  But once you look up the case law on "equal protection
of the laws," you find that this phrase has been emasculated by
the courts in the interests of democracy.  Since there is no right
to a job (absent a contract or law the contrary), Measure 2 doesn't
deny equal protection of the laws.

Considering that the Supreme Court wouldn't strike down a sodomy
law (which clearly involves the STATE taking an action against
homosexuals) based on privacy, I find it hard to believe that they
are going to strike down a measure that merely says the state won't
take any action against private employers who choose to employ
homosexuals.

# #One possibility is to work for protection at the *National* level.
# 
# Strongly seconded.  Now that we have a Democratic president(-elect)
# and a Democratic-control Senate and House, we finally have a chance
# to pass federal anti-discriminiation laws.  Last session, even with
# no chance of it being serious discussed (thanks to the assured veto
# from Bush), the federal "gay rights" bill had well over 100
# co-sponsors.  Time now for them to follow through.  As soon as I can
# locate appropriate addresses and phone and fax numbers, I'm going to
# be innundating my two new Democratic, female senators, my new
# Democratic, female US Representative (Anna Eshoo took over the seat
# vacated by Tom Campbell in a district that usually elects moderate
# Republicans), and my new Democratic President.

Go ahead.  Guarantee a sweeping victory for Republicans in this
coming election.

# kane@{buast7,astro}.bu.edu (Hot Young Star) Astronomy Dept, Boston University,

Think about it: in Oregon, the homosexual lobby had the following
groups on their side:

1. All the major newspapers in the state.

2. All the state politicians, Republican and Democrat.

3. All the TV stations.

4. The Catholic Church.

5. William F. Buckley, Jr.

6. Many of the main-line Christian churches.

7. The national mass media.

Measure 9 was seriously flawed because of how far it sought to
go in preventing homosexual promotion by the government, so seriously
that many conservatives I know up there had grave misgivings about it.
Even I had might have voted against it, if I had been in Oregon.

And STILL, Measure 9 received 42% of the vote!  It isn't a tiny
minority of Americans that are "homophobes" (that is, we don't want
the schools propagandizing our kids that homosexuality is a
wonderful thing); it is a very sizeable chunk of the population.
Homosexuals better give up the attempts to use coercive state
power to achieve their goals, because groups like OCA are empowered
by such efforts.  When homosexuals insist that the government should
subsidize homosexual propaganda efforts, it forces many people with
a "live and let live" attitude to say, "Enough!"
-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
The Physician Assisted Death Initiative failed.  Term limits for Congressmen
passed.  If only we could have combined the two... two terms, and a doctor
does lethal injection...
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