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From: johnson@wrs.com (David Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Passing cars on the right...why?
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:59:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.

Passing on the right is the most grotesque act I can think of. Passing
on the right is not only dangerous, as Dave has pointed out, but it is the
condition response of such a large percentage of the mast majority, that
people that hunker-down in the fast lane like its Custer's last stand and
*EXPECT* to be passed on the right!  Their attitude is "@$#-hole! Why don't
you just pass if your in that much of a hurry!" I try to make it habit of 
just keep flashing (not every second, but just consistantly) the halogens
at them until they move over, in hopes that they will get the big picture.
But alas, it is the constitutional right to drive like complete morons that
keeps these idiotic practices fueled. I the _Roundel_ (the publication of
the BMW Club of America) an author ( I beleive it was Farnsworth) said:

...I could see it now, we get [a lobbist group] to propose a law that
would release us from speed restrictions, but in exchange, we would have to
follow strict rules that if not followed would evoke serious and 
systematic consequences...I could see the voters now: "What are you?
A *COMMUNIST*!" 

Kinda sums up the average American attitude, don't you think?

>DAVE (johnson@WRS.COM)

>92% of Americans think they are above average drivers.
From: csbgc@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: --NEED HELP with Pontiac Sunbird LE Please
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:04:25 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services


Hello all!

I need to fix part of my engine on a Pontiac Sunbird LE that was purchased in
September of 90.  The LE is an 89 model but sat at dealership until I purchased
the car.  I called the dealership to find out info for my warrenty because I
have temporarily missplaced the paperwork.
The dealer rep just blew me off and IMHO didnt really give a shit that I had a
problem with my car.  Can anyone help!




Cheers!


Don


Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: dean@agora.rain.com (Dean Woodward)
Subject: Re: Care and feeding of Samurai- ATTN: Ross Williamson
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 03:05:44 GMT

This is a followup to my earlier post.  Thanks to those who replied.

Ross Williamson-  I tried mailing you, but it bounced.  Please mail me 
again, with a bang-path if possible.

One note of interest- My friend with a Suzuki Sidekick has has several problems
with his top, replacing it several times in a year and a half.  Is this a 
problem for Samurais also, or just the Sidekick / Geo Tracker line?  Does
anyone know if hard tops are available aftermarket?

Please, if you own or have owned one of these vehicles, mail me.  I got more
enquiries for information than I got information!  Thanks Again!

Mail to:  dean@agora.rain.com    or     root@fringe.rain.com
					^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
					(preferred, I now carry rec.autos.*)

-- 
Dean Woodward            | `I can't complain, but sometimes I still do,
dean@agora.rain.com      |   Life's been good to me so far...'
Public access user       |                                    -Joe Walsh
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Transit (was Ban old cars)
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 19:28:28 GMT

In article <1992Apr2.182525.18868@cbfsb.cb.att.com> ashaw@cbnewsg.cb.att.com  
(andrew.shaw) writes:
> By the way, I don't need to *model* this - I can *observe* it.
> What are taxis but the smallest possible minibus with the
> most frequent possible service on the greatest number of
> routes?

What they are is *expensive* ;-)

--
Nathan Janette		"I'm a NeXTstep man,
Dept MB&B, Yale Univ	 I'm a NeXTcube guy"
New Haven, CT
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: koziarz@halibut.nosc.mil (Walter A. Koziarz)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Engine Braking - what causes it?
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:36:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: nosc.5340
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego

Hmmmmm, from the contents to date of this discussion, it is obvious that
Diesel-drivers have a much better understanding of engine-operating
characteristics...  I guess that's why we chose Diesel in the first place. 

{ note:  the above factual statement was purposely phrased in such a way as to
provide comic relief }

Walt K.
From: greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gayla Ann Greis)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.vw
Subject: The GODs are telling you something (Was: Re: Common electrical problem
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:11:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: uwm.1992Apr11.181119.20107
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee

In article <1992Apr9.003349.9382@rdr.com> randy%rdr.com@uu.psi.com (Randy Tidd) writes:
>filter), every time I get out of the car, I get a static shock.  It only  
>happens when my feet are grounded (i.e. on the ground) and I touch a metal  
>part of the car, and only immediately after I get out.  It gets worse the  
>longer I drive!  I get some real doozies when I drive even 10 or 15 miles  
>across town to get to the office.  It's gotten to the point where I'm  
>always sure to touch the car with a clothed part of my body to decrease  
>the pain of the shock.

>Okay.  What's up?

YES! This ***DOES*** happen to someone else! I have this same problem in
my folks 85 Sierra wagon. Noone else does. I do ***EVERY*** time I drive
it. (I just thought the car liked me about as much as I like it - NOT!)
I've kinda gotten to the point where I *like* and look forward to the
shock... Strange, eh? Its a love/hate thing... :-) (I know, but there
is no : alt.s+m.autos.shock group to post to! ;-)

But seriously. I have had this problem too!
Xref: sparky rec.autos:11278 rec.autos.vw:2359
From: keys@csrc.ncsl.nist.gov (Larry Keys)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: Mexican build quality (was: Experience purchasing 1992 VW GTI 16v)
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:18:42 GMT
Followup-To: rec.autos
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology

In article <1992Apr08.161337.7739@wes.on.ca> tomh@wes.on.ca (Tom Haapanen) writes:
>twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong) writes:
>> When I was looking for a new car and I posted my questions about VW
>> here in rec.autos and rec.autos.vw, I was told that the quality of VW
>> went down the tubes ever since North American VWs are assembled in

>All right, could we get some personal experiences from people who have
>owned both Mexican and US and/or German-built VWs?  Preferably the current
>A2 series instead of oooold Rabbits which are less comparable, but...
>
>Personally, I haven't found the build quality of my '90 GTI 16V (Mexico)
>to be significantly different from my wife's '86 GTI (US), or from my ex
>89 Jetta (Germany).  All have had at least some squeaks or rattles in the
>dash, and all have had a few missing details.  None were terribly unrelia-
>ble -- or completely perfect.  
>
>The least reliable thing about my Mexican 16V was the delivery date!  I 
>ordered it January 2nd, 1990, and was supposed to get it late March.  But
>the first 16Vs didn't arrive until late May, and I finally got mine on
>June 2nd.  Oh, and amazingly enough, two of the three keys were for some
>other car, not mine!
>
>[ \tom haapanen    "i don't even know what street canada is on" -- al capone]


I have had a few minor problems with my 1990 (Mexican Built) Jetta GLI.  The
problems have all been related to specific parts, and not how tight some bolts
were compared to others.  I have not experienced any parts falling off, 
although from time-to-time the dash has squeaks and rattles, but mostly during
the winter.  We also have a 1990 Fox, and we used to have an 87 Jetta GLI. In
both cases our experiences have been the same.  Our VW's have never left us
on the side of the road, and for the most part require only routine 
maintenance.  We have owned German, Mexican, and Brazilian and in our
experience they have been about the same: GREAT CARS THAT LOVE TO RUN,
VERY RELIABLE, FUN TO DRIVE, AND VERY REASONABLY PRICED!   


Just my 2.ooh sense worth,
                                                   .              
                                                 /                
Larry                            __/    ______ /                  
keys@csmes.ncsl.nist.gov       /                \                 
                         _ _ _      __      _____  \------- ===   
            ---------- /  __ /    /  /    /__  __/            \   
         /            /  / ____  /  /       / /                |  
        |            / /___/  / /  /__   __/ /__              /   
        /_____       \______/  /_____ / /______/        --- ////   
             \_____           2 liter 16v       \_______/         
                                                                              
        Fahrvergnugen forever!
From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Turbo-Revving
Date: 16 Apr 92 05:25:09 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.

stecz@hotwheel.Eng.Sun.COM (John Steczkowski [CONTRACTOR]) writes:


>I don't think that the engine electronics or turbo have anything to do with 
>it, it is a mechanical problem with the throttle linkage.  Your engine 
>electronics can't open the throttle butterfly, you have to do that with 
>the throttle.  So I would have the linkage checked out.

Nope.  The ECU can indeed open the throttle via the idle stabilization
stepper valve sufficient to redline the engine with no load.  That it 
returned to normal after cycling the ignition switch is a good clue.
Sounds like an electronics or perhaps a sticking idle valve problem
to me.  

John
-- 
John De Armond, WD4OQC        | What's the difference between Jane Fonda
Rapid Deployment System, Inc. | and Bill Clinton?  Hanoi Jane went to 
Marietta, Ga                  | Viet Nam.              
jgd@dixie.com                 | Need public access in Atl?  Write me.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: wwein@scott.skidmore.edu (warren wein)
Subject: Re: Comments asked on Uniden Radar Detector
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:38:53 GMT


	You should try looking at Bel or Whistler, but definitely not
the Uniden.

							WIW
From: welty@cabot.balltown.cma.COM (richard welty)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Alfa 33 ... Should it be brought into the US?
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:54:21 GMT
Organization: New York State Institute for Sebastian Cabot Studies

In article <ku123gINNns6@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> chrisp@regenmeister.Sun.COM (Chris Prael) writes:
>From article <1992Apr2.224357.13178@cabot.balltown.cma.COM>, by welty@cabot.balltown.cma.COM (richard welty):
>> i'm impressed at how quickly they returned to profitability after the
>> Fiat takeover, myself, but i'm also worried that they may cease to be
>> Alfa except in name, too. 

>You are usually right on the money.  Particularly when Alfas are the
>topic.  But this time you missed.  Alfa has been Alfa only in name for 3
>years now.  The 75/Milano was a real Alfa.  The GTV-6 was a real Alfa.

>The Spider stopped being a real Alfa when they burdened the already
>overloaded engine with an air conditioner.  And now they add power
>steering.  It's been turned into a boulevard car!  And then there is the
>164.  Pheh!

i think i'll differ with you somewhat; Alfa has played about with
A/C in their cars for some time, and overloaded the 2L motor with
A/C even back when they were independent (not the spider, admittedly,
but they did it in other cars.)  i'd say that A/C and Power Steering
were almost mandated by the market price segment that the Spider operates
in now, given that the top of the line Miata has them and still costs less
than a Spider.

as for the 164, well, i wish it were RWD too, but the project does date
back to before the Fiat buyout, and the motor is still genuine Alfa.
for my part, the company will cease to be Alfa when they stop designing
their own engines (unfortunately, they have in fact used a turbo Lancia
motor in a european version of the 75, but they are still designing
their own motors for the most part.)

cheers,
  richard
-- 
richard welty                            518-393-7228
welty@cabot.balltown.cma.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: TMR@WDL1.WDL.LORAL.COM (TIM RYAN)
Subject: Re: Advice on purchase of Ford Ranger Light Truck
Organization: LORAL.WDL
Distribution: USA
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:44:50 GMT

In article <1992Apr01.171357.33873@acs.ucalgary.ca>, parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
> 
> 
> I have in front of me the _Consumer Guide_ 1992 Trucks Van 4X4
> buying guide. And I don't understand a few things.
> 
> For example, the truck I want is the "Sport 2wd regular cab 114" 
> wheelbase" the dealer invoice is 8311$. Does this mean I can buy 
> the truck for that amount? There is a list of "standard
> equipment", so I figure that my 8311 truck gets what is on that
> list, and if I want extras, then I pay. This brings me to my
> second question. I go down the page and find the "pkg 860a 
> Sport 2wd w/5spd" and then other packages that discuss
> XLT trim levels, STX trim levels.
> 
> Do I have to pick one? I f I don't, are they good deals?
> 
> Here is what I've figured out I want:
> Sport 2wd reg cab, with 7 foot box 8311$
> 4.0l v6                             527$
> 4spd auto trans                     811$
> power steering                      233
> Super Engine Cooling                 47
>    ( I will be doing plenty of long 
>      trips in hot sun at high 
>      altitudes)
> High capacity fuel tank              21
> Tachometer                           47
> sliding rear window                  96
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I will be adding decent rims and tires afterwards, also fog lamps
> and a good stereo. I feel I can get these much more
> cheaply in the aftermarket.
> 
> I may ditch the automatic. In fact the only reason I want it,
> is that according to the book, you get 160hp out of it with
> the auto and only 145hp with standard. This does not seem
> to make sense to me, is it a typo? Is the manual transmission
> a good one?
> 
> Help! I only know motorcycles!
> 
> Charles
> -- 
> Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
> separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
> struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
> gourd. --Unknown net.person
> 
> Responce;
I purchased a 1991 Ford Ranger Extened Cab STX 4X4 in Dec 1990.
The manual transmission is very difficult to shift and the first gear is to
low.
The STX includes special Gas shock and lots of sickers on the sides.

Complants,
The 1990 Raners electric windows are located in the wrong place, they may have
moved them in 91. 
The STX ride very nice but its pay load is very limited.
The special Rims are Ok but not very deep and scratch very easily.

Over all I'm very disepointed with the vehical
I've had no real problems.

if you want more infolet me no!

T. Ryan
The views above are mine and mine alone!

 


Xref: sparky rec.autos:10778 rec.autos.tech:5465
From: dschneid@galois.ece.wisc.edu (Dan Schneidewend)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: Air Filters--Fram vs K&R
Keywords: air filters fram K&R
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:15:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Apr6.111548.10373
Organization: /usr/local/lib/organization

In article <1992Apr2.150008.26313@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> efisch@councilb1.austin.ibm.com writes:
>In article <1992Apr1.103110.22277@doug.cae.wisc.edu> dschneid@hollerith.ece.wisc.edu (Dan Schneidewend) writes:
>>                                   The down side is that they cose
>>$20 or more a filter (although the filters are lifetime filters,
>>an are cleaned rather than replaced so may be a little cheaper in
>>the long run)
>>
>>
>>Dan
>
>Is the cleaning process just a matter of running the filter through
>some water or does the filter need some special oil and have a
>monatanous way of prepping it for use?
>
>Eric 

The cleaning requires a cleaning kit from K&N. The kit consists
of a can of solvent and a can of oil.  The solvent is applied 
first, then your rinse in water, let dry, re-oil, and your
done.  The process takes about 1-2 hours because of drying
time.  The cleaning kit it available for about 6-8 dollars,
and depending on the size of your filter is good for about
2-5 cleanings.

As far as the discussion on filter effectiveness, I dont have
any specific numbers, but I know - 1) It's good enough not
to void your warrenty, 2) HKS performance (I company that
makes performance parts and does extensive testing on
anything that they sell) recommends them for both performanc
and reliability enhancement. 3) I am
a member of the University Formula SAE team, and we have
spent many many hours of dyno time with K&N filters.
We have also put paper filters behind a K&N, and after
hours of running the paper has no visual difference from new.

Granted this is all circumstantial, but it is good enough
for me until I see hard numbers.


Dan
From: axle@bb1t.monsanto.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: JD Power Results...
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:09:18 CST
Organization: Monsanto Company, St. Louis, MO



Hi there,

	I REALLY need the result of this year or last year J.D. Power
 results for this paper I'm doing.  I have already search through the
 library for it, but they don't have it. Could someone PLEASEeeee post the 
 results or point me the direction to where I can find it.  I am DESPERATE
 and would greatly appreciate the help.

 Thanz in advance.

						AXLE
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: gtong@dahlia.waterloo.edu (Gordon Tong)
Subject: Re: Maxima SE VS Camry SE
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:09:04 GMT

In article <8duiHca00awXAHaEVh@andrew.cmu.edu> pb1w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Philip Bronner) writes:
>I have heard alot of talk on the net about the CAMRY SE and some seem
>excited.  Does anyone out there really think it is comparable to the
>Maxima SE with the 300 ZX engine.  I don't think so.
>	            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^								-Phil

From what I have read in my magazines, the 24-valve DOHC v-6 in the maxmima
SE is ,though it may seem the same, not the same engine as the one found on
the 300zx. I heard the 300zx was an all new design, (from the old z engine) and
the Maxima SE engine is derived from the SOHC engine (from the old z engine).
From: pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Passing cars on the right...why?
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:17:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The College On The Other Side Of Route One

In article <1992Apr10.170843.12410@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> acura@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (james.r.feeney) writes:
=I travel the major highways here in N.J. (Gareden State Pkwy, Turnpike, I-287)
=quite often and I've noticed that on 3-lane roads, people seem to prefer 
=passing on the right instead of the left. To test my observation I went out
=on the G.S.P. during mid-day with light traffic, got in the center lane, and
=did 60 mph (55 mph posted). Almost without exception (4 cars in fact) every
=car going faster than 60 passed me on the right! In fact 2 cars actually waited
=until a slower car in the right lane was passed before they passed on the right
=even though the left lane was clear!
=
=Has anyone else noticed this? Any suggestions as to why? The only thing I
=could think of was a perception that you are more likely to be stopped by
=the police if you're in the left lane? Just an observation.

It's most likely because the left and center lanes are blocked by slower
moving cars. This causes faster drivers to haunt the right lane and they
tend to stay there and pass on the right even when the left lane is open.

Pete

-- 
Prof. Peter J. Holsberg      Mercer County Community College
Voice: 609-586-4800          Engineering Technology, Computers and Math
FAX: 609-586-6944            1200 Old Trenton Road, Trenton, NJ 08690
Internet: pjh@mccc.edu       Trenton Computer Festival: April 17-18, 1993
From: snd@elan.cs.princeton.edu (Stefanos Damianakis)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: 300ZX vs SVX
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:20:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: elan.SND.92Apr6192035
	<4drtu1O00Uh_84foAJ@andrew.cmu.edu>
	<Apr06.023332.13689@engr.washington.edu>
Followup-To: snd@cs.princeton.edu
Organization: Computer Science Department, Princeton University

In article <Apr06.023332.13689@engr.washington.edu> eliot@lanmola.engr.washington.edu (Brutus Thornapple) writes:

   I repeat:  The new RX-7 will kick both their butts

   nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh


   eliot

I seriously doubt that this is an accurate way of saying things. First, the
300 is a much more refined car, the RX-7 has been redone and I'm sure that
their will be kinks to work out.

The current issue of "Motor Trend", for what it's worth says:

		300 zx		RX-7
0-60mph		5.7		5.2
topspeed	165.0		163.0

Further, 4 out of 5 testers would "bring home" 300zx given $40k to spend.

Numbers aren't always the complete story, drive them both and see for
yourself, the 300zx is hard to beat. 

BTW, anyone know when the next 300 change is due? Should be soon, I imagine.

-stef
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: planger@mailbox.fwrdc.rtsg.mot.com (Paul Langer)
Subject: Re: auto alarms
Organization: Oompa Loompa Preservation Society
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1992 23:11:15 GMT

In article <TPAQUETTE.92Apr2155917@gumby.ita.lgc.com>, tpaquette@ita.lgc.com (Trevor Paquette) writes:
> 
>  I just got a car alaram for my 91 Corrado. DO not get the power drain feature
> if your car has an electric fan that kicks in five minutes after you shut off
> your car to cool it down. I had this and it was ALWAYS going off.. they tried
> to fix it with some sort of wire that went from the alarm to the fan, but
> that failed. Eventually we went with a pin system.
>   Other then that I have not had a problem with it. It had a 115db siren in
> it.. I very soon upgraded to a 130db siren. 115 just doesn't cut it, 
> especially when you have a car bra as well. The bra seems to dampen the
> sound.
>   
> Trevor Paquette                   | Landmark/ITA, Inverse Theory & Applications
> tpaquette@ita.lgc.com             | Suite 1101, 425 1st St S.W.
> Visitor from CyberSpace           | Calgary, Alberta, Canada   T2P 3L8
> Renagade from Virtual Reality     | Phone:(403) 269-4669


  I've heard the best place to mount the siren is INSIDE the car
under the DASH. With 115dB of sound blasting, I don't think anyone
would want to get in that car.

-Paul

-My opinions are my own, wonk, wonk, wonk.
Newsgroups: rec.autos,soc.culture.indian,alt.activism,misc.consumers
From: jimk@wpi.WPI.EDU (James Matthew Kokernak)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: Experience purchasing 1992 VW GTI 16v (long)
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:48:47 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute

In article <1992Apr7.235054.11540@unixg.ubc.ca> twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong) writes:
>>
>When I was looking for a new car and I posted my questions about VW
>here in rec.autos and rec.autos.vw, I was told that the quality of VW
>went down the tubes ever since North American VWs are assembled in Mexico.
>The parts are the same but the quality went down a lot. People had
>squeaks and misc things falling off, and leaks....etc. I like these
>German cars but unless we can get them straight from Germany again
>as opposed to Mexico, I'd steer away from them. Personal opinion only.

Not all North American VW's are assembled in Mexico. Look at the VIN.
If it begins with a "W", then it was built in West(ern) Germany. The
Fox is built in Brazil, all of the Jettas are built in Germany, some
of the Golfs are built in Germany, some are built in Mexico, some might
be built in U.S. (This is all as far as I can tell)

--Jim