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From: jhildeb1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Jeff Hildebrand)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Phillies Injury Report
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:54:15 GMT
Reply-To: jhildeb1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Jeff Hildebrand)
Distribution: na
Organization: Don's Merry Horde of Topologists


	Someone beat me to this, but I'll throw in a few stray comments.

seth@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (peter.r.clark..jr) writes:
> Lenny Dykstra has been placed on the 15 day DL. He could play now, but
> he would be in pain and despites Lenny's protests he will sit for 2
> weeks. They will re-evaluate him at that time, but you can bet large
> sums of money that he won't stand to be put on the DL for any longer. :-)

	This is a smart move. He played yesterday (after getting the broken
bone) and didn't have nearly the pop in his swing that he normally does. The
fact that it's only the 15 day disabled list would seem to indicate that
they think he can be back and playing about up to normal in a short period
of time. And if the doctors say he can play after 15 days, Dykstra isn't
about to sit out.

> Jose DeJesus is out indefinitely, and may be done for his career. He has
> a torn rotator cuff and it's my understanding that it will almost be a
> miracle for him to play again this year.

	He's being sent to Los Angeles to see a specialist and find out
about operation options. Bad news indeed for DeJesus, but probably good news
for Pat Combs. If Cox or one of the rookies falters, he could be called up
fairly soon.

> Kim Batiste is day to day with a hamstring strain. He was given the night
> off tonight.

	Since this has been an on again off again problem since the middle
of spring training I wouldn't be surprised to see them hold him out until
they're damn sure he's ready. So Sveum and Duncan will probably be spliting
shortstop duties for this week.

> Ruben Amaro Jr. is playing for Lenny tonight in center, leading off. In
> his first at bat he was hit by a pitch (this is not lie) just barely
> above his knee. He scored, then hit a double and scored, hit another double
> and scored, and hit a HR, and it's only the 6th inning. Oh, the home plate
> umpire was hit by a pitch ON THE FOREARM and is wearing some sort of
> ice-pack or pad...

	Lenny who? :) Amaro finished 3 for 4 with 3 RBIs, getting on base
all 5 times he was up. (Hit by pitch and fielder's choice as well.) No one
in their right mind thinks he's ever going to replace Dykstra permanently.
However the next couple of weeks could be interesting. If Amaro continues to
do well, Wes Chamberlain should get very nervous. Or even Dale Murphy. I
personally expect to see Amaro get a lot of playing time this year. (Boy was
that Von Hayes trade a steal.)

> The Phillies did call up a minor leaguer (outfielder(?)) who's name escapes me.

	Julio Pegaro. One of the three outfielders acquired from the Pirates
in August 1990. (Chamberlain and Tony Longmire were the others.)

-Jeff
-- 
Jeff Hildebrand                                  jhildeb1@cc.swarthmore.edu
"Fly Heisenberg Airlines! We may not know where we are, but we're making
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From: Elliott Slater
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re:  The Immortal Bob Dernier
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:02:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: Princeto.1992Apr9.150225.20636
Reply-To: joes@village.princeton.edu
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU

In article <1992Apr1.004956.16793@midway.uchicago.edu> clmn@ellis.uchicago.edu  
(Bill Coleman) writes:
^ In article <1992Mar31.192901.3572@athena.mit.edu> vonhaam@athena.mit.edu  
(Eric P vonHaam) writes:
^ >
^ >  Speaking of Cubs' CF's, who was their CF about 6-7 years ago? White
^ >guy, pretty fast, batted leadoff (I think), and was one of those
^ >"tough, gritty" players. Lenny Dykstra type. Anyone?
^ >
^ 
^ It was the immortal Bob Dernier.
^ 
^ 
^ -- 
^ Bill Coleman

He won me a Rotisserie championship in 1986  by stealing about 5 bases in the  
last week. I thought about voting him in for an extra share....
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From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: '92 edition of Giants
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 04:19:21 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 


After watching the Giants knock around the Braves' pitching staff
tonight, a couple of thoughts crossed my fertile mind...

1)  This season's edition of the team has significantly more speed
    than any other in quite awhile (early '70s, perhaps).  Fielding
    a lineup that includes Lewis, Felder, McGee and Clayton gives
    them team speed that is, well, almost acceptable, and *much*
    better than the stone-laden teams of late.  I realize that an
    outfield of Felder, Lewis and McGee is a bit light on punch (OK,
    so it's very light on punch), but it's fun to see the team run a
    bit.

2)  I didn't get much chance to watch Clayton in the spring, but he's
    been a dazzler in the early going.  Two plays that are sure to 
    make the highlight film, including one tonight that immediately
    evoked images of the Wizard.  I am aware that it's a bit early
    to make such comparisons, but it looks to be a safe bet that
    the Giants didn't lose anything in the field by benching Uribe.

All in all, this looks to be a less frustrating version of the Giants.
Less pop, to be sure, but better pitching (not saying much), much
more team speed, and maybe a decent #7 hitter in Clayton.  The cellar
dosesn't seem like such a lead-pipe cinch anymore...
-- 
Michael Zimmers                                    |  Home:  408 996 1984
SoftHelp                                           |  Work:  408 996 1965
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Organization: Graduate School of Industrial Administr., Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Date: Thu,  9 Apr 1992 08:55:13 -0400 
From: Bill Thomas <bt16+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: ESPN sked

Ooops, sorry about that first post.

Does anyone know the ESPN baseball schedule? Or, could it be that ESPN
is much smarter than the other networks and doesn't create a schedule
before the season so that it can broadcast important games after the
races develop?

Anyway, if there is a schedule, could someone post it or e-mail it to
me? I'm particularly interested in the dates when (if?) Cleveland
Indians games will be broadcast.

Note: Does anyone else lament the fact that the three quasi-national
local cable channels cover only National League games (Cubs, Mets,
Braves)? I've lived in Galveston, Knoxville, southeast Ohio and
Pittsburgh and have never seen a cable channel that was picked up
nationally that covered an American League team. I hate that.

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From: CAVGEOE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Trivia -- Correct Answer
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 16:32:46 EDT

In article <1992Apr8.222233.5322@cs.brown.edu>
dsl@cs.brown.edu (Clyde Drexler) writes:
 
>
>I'll guess Bruce Hurst and Mike Boddicker.
 
Bingo! Nice guessing, I didn't get a chance to give my hint -- they spent
half a season as teammates.
 
Jeff
 
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From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Subject: Re: Ramon, MRI, Crews, Comments, and a Question
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:50:33 GMT

In article <gnrjs4a.mzimmers@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>I don't think the issue is salary at all.  My employer has no need to
>be interested in the health of my [wrist|shoulder|elbow] in terms of
>how it may affect my ability to do my job. 

So what if the health of your wrist/shoulder/elbow *did* affect your
ability to do your job?  Would you think your employer had the right to
force you to get an MRI?  (Incidently, if you spend much time in front of a
keyboard, as I do, then the health of your wrists *is* an issue; I have
several friends with Carpal Tunnel Syndrome).

I'm not taking a position one way or another here; I'm just trying to
understand what people really think about it.  

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com



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From: spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira)
Subject: Re: Rickey Henderson v Nolan Ryan -- Stat-head call to arms!
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 00:25:02 GMT
Organization: Help! Help!  

In <167CBD917.X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu> X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:

>In article <1992Apr15.160550.7070@midway.uchicago.edu>
>      thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
> 
>>The whites are much more likely to be described as classy players,
>>the blacks as troublemakers.
> 
>   Then please explain the Rod Dibbles & Len Dykstras of bb.
>Not exactly guys I would call classy....
> 
>    Sorry, but I give the (sports) media and fans a little more
>credit than that.
> 
Ted didn't say that whites were never labeled troublmakers, just that they
were less likely to be called such when they exhibit the same behavior as
blacks who are labeled troublemakers.  The extreme cases of all races are
going to be labeled as such.

Greg  
-- 
  spira@panix.com       "The one-O delivery to Fisk.  He swings.  Long drive,  
 cmcl2!panix!spira      left field!  If it stays fair, it's gone!  Home Run!"  
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Whitestone NY 11357          (Insert your favorite baseball moment here)
From: psg+@pitt.edu (Paul S Galvanek)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: For METS FANS only: re Bonilla
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:01:13 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <u8e8iB6w164w@banana.ithaca.ny.us> henning@banana.ithaca.ny.us (Henning Pape-Santos) writes:
>Today, in the 3-2 loss to the Phillies, he hit what he thought 
>would be the game-tieing HR in the 9th. He then hot-dogged around 
>instead of running all out, which might have gotten him to third 
>instead of to second (not that it mattered, however).

OH Met fans get used to this!  This is exactly the type of stuff he did 
with the Pirates.  How could any Pirate fan forget the 1990 playoffs when
against the Reds he did the exact same thing.  Oh he stroked a mighty shot
then strolled down the first base line and only after he rounded first base
did he realize that it was short and then decides to run a bit.  But in true
Bonilla style rather than stop at second and look a little foolish he tries
to take third (as if he could actually run *NOT*) and was thrown out by a mile
thus killing a chance to win the game.

Ah but the statheads will say "he hit good in the playoffs, look he had a
double..." or "but see he's an aggresive baserunner..."

> 
>My question is: Do you think this kind of attitude is in order for 
>a man being paid what Bonilla is being paid? (Or for anyone, for 
>that matter.) 

I told you man he's a slacker!  He'll only lift his feet as high or as fast as
he has absolutely must.  Any effort required on his part, more than say strut-
ting around the bases like an overstuffed Peacock in heat, is to much like
work to that man and you will never get it out of him!  EVER!

As for the rest of them, here's some interesting numbers...

In the 6 losses the Mets have been outscored 51 to 14.  (and offense was their 
                                                         strong point ha ha)

Bonilla, Johnson and Murray are a combined 6 for 42     ( so now what's a walk
							  worth 8^)

The team as a whole has more errors than extra base hits (but they don't mean
                                                          anything anyway)

I can't beleive I picked them for fourth place, they're not even that good
If you really want to know how to piss away 48 million dollars in a year
and not have anything to show for it just look at the 1992 Mets.

Happy Happy Joy Joy

PSG
From: tjbb@cbnewse.cb.att.com (terrence.boerner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Field of Dreams
Summary: Is this heaven....
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:13:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <cubsfan.702529632@camelot>, cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman) writes:
> Several friends and I are going on a baseball roadtrip this summer, and
> we would like to stop at the farm in Iowa where Field of Dreams was
> filmed. I understand that the baseball diamond is still there, and that
> it is avaliable for visitors.
> 
> Does anyone have informations as to where it is located, directions on
> how to get there, any charges, or anything else of information?
> 
> Has anyone visited there?
> 
> Please respond via e-mail
> Thanks!
> 
> --
> soxfan@camelot.bradley.edu
> 
> OPENING DAY!!!

I was there last summer and it looks just like what you saw in the
movie minus Joe Jackson.  Walking around the field you get a strange
feeling as if something really did happen there.  They have a box if you
want do donate something.  There is a stand in which the sell shirts,
hats etc.  Bring your camcorder, it makes for some great footage, played
catch with my son ie. "Dad? Wanna have a catch?". I`ll be going back this
August,  the corn height should just be the right size, as in the movie.

The field is in Dyersville, Iowa. Coming from Wis/Ill.  Take Rt. 20
west past Dubuque about 20 miles and exit at the Dyersville exit and
follow the signs, you can't miss it.  

If you build it, they will come.

SJJ
From: WELACK@MIAMIU.BITNET
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: SD-ATL trade rumorYesterday during the Reds-Padres game Marty Brenamen talked about a
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:14:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: MIAMIU.92098.161428WELACK
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

rumored trade that is set to come off in the next few days between the
Braves and the Padres.... Benito Santiago for Kent Merker, Greg Olson, and
a player to be named later.
 
      Anyone from Atlanta or San Diego heard this?
 
Bill Lack
REDS IN '92!!!!!!!!!!
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From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Subject: Re: Chicago White Sox
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:04:11 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.210004.3440@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> glb50263@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Gary L. Blickhan) writes:
>
>George Bell went 0-5 (the Hawaii five oh) on opening day, but Sosa was
>awesome against the Phillies.  The Cubs got a pretty good pitcher.

	A pretty good pitcher?  Patterson?  The jury is definitely still
	out on him.  He did nothing on the South Side which would get him
	past journeyman status.  As far as Sammy goes, "awesome"?  He was 1-5
	yesterday.  That's .200, what he hit last year...  Harry Caray
	said he made a "Willie Mays catch".  After listening to Harry and
	Ron Santo for a couple of innings yesterday, one wonders how many
	Bud's the two had before they hit the airwaves.  Harry is now more
	incoherent than ever.  He should have hung it up long ago.  Santo
	pronounces "Sosa" like "Scioscia".  There's got to be better
	announcers out there, somewhere...  When Thom came back on in the
	7th, it was like a breath of fresh air...

	The White Sox scored 10 runs and Bell was 0-5.  Not bad.  Mike Huff,
	Sammy's replacement, had 3 hits...  Wilson Alvarez, the new lefty
	long man, threw three perfect innings...

-- 
-------------------------------
| Randy Peppler               |
| Illinois State Water Survey |
| peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu    |
From: mjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:35:08 GMT
Subject: Re: Eckersley NOT better than Fingers
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
From: dk@alcor.concordia.ca (dimitri k)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Expos
Date: 13 Apr 92 00:54:28 GMT
Distribution: na

cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca (DAVID A LISOGURSKI) writes:

>Does anyone have any info on this Fletcher guy the Expos have as catcher?
>He had a pretty amazing game today, so I'm hoping he's a young prospect
>unlike the other 2 catchers they have (not that I mind Carter and the other 
>guy).

Fletcher was acquired from the Phillies in a trade for Barry Jones.  I 
believe that last year was his rookie year (?).  I don't know anything
else about him other than the fact he caught Greene's no-hitter last
year.  Average hitter; decent catcher.  He's hit well so far this year, 
but his arm hasn't been impressive.

>The Expos will not finish any worse than 3rd this season - mark my words.
>They have youth, talent, and pretty decent pitching.

I agree... they're the most underrated team in the league.

dk
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From: garyj@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (gary joslin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: CORRECTION
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:39:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In my previous post criticizing Garland Burton I referred to Purdue.
This was not correct in that he is affliated with Ohio St.
Sorry about that.

-- 
************************************************************************
*              Gary Joslin                                             *
*              C.S. University of Texas at Austin                      *
*              garyj@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu                                *
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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Juan Samuel--who pays.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 19:21:24 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.190939.10062@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> ncovey@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (neil covey) writes:
>I'm a Dodger fan, but sometimes I wonder:
>Do the Dodgers pay Juan Samuel or does the rest of the National League
>pay them to keep him on their roster?

Come on.  Samuel's not *that* bad!  At least he's better offensively than
Mark Lemke, Jose Lind, and Mickey Morandini...

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
Charter Member of the Acker-o-phobics Anonymous
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
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From: marwood@qucis.queensu.ca (Simon Marwood DSC REP)
Subject: Expos: 25-man roster
Organization: Computing & Information Science, Queen's University at Kingston
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 04:20:02 GMT



The Expos' opening day roster is now complete (good thing, as opening
day is tomorrow!!)

The final roster move was made today, after the game against Toronto.
Hurst and Haney both pitched well, (Hurst gave up 1 run in 4 innings,
on a Joe Carter HR, and Haney got himself out of a walked-the-bases-full
jam and only allowed one run in 5 innings) but Haney was given the nod.
Hence, Hurst was optioned to AAA Indianapolis.
Comments on the roster:
Bullock should hopefully not last long, maybe he'll be the one to go
when Darren Reed is ready. The only thing that seems a plus is that he
is a LH batter and the rest of the bench except for VanderWal and Foley
are RH. Of course, he's a dreadful LH batter, but...
Calderon's arm is ready, and at about 80%.
Moises Alou may have injured his arm slightly on the throw to the plate
in the 9th yesterday. It's not expected to be serious.
The team also opens with 2 players on the DL:
OF/1B Darren Reid
C Gil Reyes

Without further ado, the roster:

Pitchers(10)		1991 team(s)

Fassero, Jeff		Indianapolis (AAA)  / Montreal
Gardner, Mark		Indianapolis* / Montreal
Haney, Chris		Harrisburg (AA)  / Indianapolis / Montreal
Hill, Ken		Louisville* (AAA) / St. Louis
Landrum, Bill		Pittsburgh
Martinez, Dennis	Montreal
Nabholz, Chris		Indianapolis* / Montreal
Sampen, Bill		Indianapolis / Montreal
Simons, Doug		New York (NL)
Wetteland, John		Albuquerque (AAA) / Los Angeles

Catchers (3)

Carter, Gary		Los Angeles
Cerone, Rick		New York (NL)
Fletcher, Darrin	Scranton (AAA) / Philadelphia

Infielders (6)

Barberie, Bret		Indianapolis / Montreal
Cianfrocco, Arci	Harrisburg
Deshields, Delino	Montreal
Foley, Tom		Montreal
Owen, Spike		Montreal
Wallach, Tim		Montreal

Outfielders (6)

Alou, Moises		Montreal  (did not play -- injured)
Bullock, Eric		Montreal
Calderon, Ivan		Montreal
Grissom, Marquis	Montreal
VanderWal, John		Indianapolis / Montreal
Walker, Larry		Montreal


That's it, that's all. Roll on opening day!

Simon

-- 
Simon Marwood					
DSC Chair
Computing and Information Science Department
Queen's University
From: dick1@hera.uucp (25436-vaughn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Mets and Yankees
Summary: '90's Mets  !=  '80's Yankees
	 look under the surface and you'll see
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:51:34 GMT
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ

In article <1992Apr14.181908.13819@midway.uchicago.edu>, nss3@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Noel Steere) writes:
>In article <1992Apr14.160713.5307@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> jjd3@po.CWRU.Edu (James J. Dibenedetto) writes:
>>
>>One thing that struck me last season, in July, and is even more clear now,
>>is that the Mets of today have turned into the Yankees of the early 1980's.
>The parallels are frightening.  NY team overloaded with talent lets
>future HOF rf walk via free agency (to California team, though I don't
>really think that has anything to do with it :-) and sign
>speedster/sparkplug outfielder to take his place (remember Dave Collins?).  

Invalid parallel.  
Yankees let Reggie go because they thought he was through.  
Mets let Darryl go because they couldn't stand him any longer.
Yankees signed Dave Collins because he was good and he was available
(their only criteria at the time).  Mets signed Coleman because they
desperately needed a leadoff hitter.


>            Also, management of said team now proscribes to "hustling"
>style of play that "gets the little things done".  

Again, invalid parallel.
Yankees changed style because George wanted to. (Why?  Who knows?)
Mets finally axe Cashen, Harazin brings in Torborg to straighten out their
biggest problem: attitude and approach.


> I don't get it.  Why do most fans of one NY team feel they have to
> *hate* the other one?  

That's an easy one.  
A statistically anomalous percentage of Yankee fans have a
'Yankees-are-the-only-team-that-matters' attitude.  
Consequently, Yankee fans hate the Mets purely for the fact that 
they dare to exist in the same town, and Mets' fans hate the Yankees 
precisely because of this fascist attitude on the part of their fans.
(Unlike Chicago, etc., neighborhood has nothing to do with it;
it breaks down along personality lines.  But that's another [huge] thread.)


Dick V.
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From: dougp@juliet.caltech.edu (Peterson, Douglas)
Subject: Curse of the Bambino?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.40    
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 07:39:00 GMT

Hopefully someone out there can refresh my memory.  Who/what did
the Red Sox get in return for Babe Ruth?  I seem to remember it 
being a player and a sum of money.  Thanks in advance.

dougp@juliet.caltech.edu  
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From: stailey@hawkeye.comm.mot.com (Mike Stailey)
Subject: Cubs Biased Announcers (was Re: Biased Announcers)
Reply-To: stailey@hawkeye.comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:15:37 GMT

(Big Bri) writes:

[Rantings about Harry Caray deleted]

* Getting back to Harry, the guy who does middle innings has always been
* better than Harry. It used to be DeWayne Staats. I don't know who it is now
* but he's pretty good too.

  
  His name is Thom Brenneman (sp?), son of longtime Reds announcer Marty
  Brenneman. He is the WGN radio play-by-play man who does the middle innings
  for WGN tv.

  And your right. He is a very good announcer and has a great rapport with his
  color man (Cub great) Ron Santo.

  BTW, Harry is the play-by-play guy and is not really required to give deep
  insight into the game. That is what they have Steve Stone for. Not that I
  think he is all that great either. More often than not, I listen to the games
  on the radio.

  --
  Michael                      
  stailey@hawkeye.comm.mot.com