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From: gfm@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (George Francis McBay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Monitor
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:36:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: mintaka.1992Sep8.113619.7806
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <Don_Moorcroft.00e1@amusers.UUCP> Don_Moorcroft@amusers.UUCP (Don Moorcroft) writes:
>Does anyone know of any diferant monitors that I can use with my amiga 2000
>other than the trash made by commodore.......my 1084 is near death and
>after opening it up and seeing the shoddy construction of it I simply
>refuse to purchase another one of these things. My main gripe is the
>cardboard they use to insulate the circuit board from the ground
>plate...........some real foresight there in planning it to self destruct
>in a period of time.

	Does anyone have a list of which 1084(-S)/1950(60)s, are good?
I have heard many times that Commodore doesn't make their monitors, they only
OEM them from major TV/monitor manufacturers.  Many people complain that
their A1084/A1084S monitors die young and start making whirrs/poping sounds
as soon as they start being used.  I have a A1084S-D1 which was bought a bit
over a year ago.  To date it has NOT done anything out of the ordinary and
I am quite pleased with it..  I have also seen A1084S monitors that were
very different that mine, a friend has one that is missing over half the
controls and knobs (mine has knobs in the back that can 'scrunch' the screen
and reposition it vertically, a nifty feature for all those PALBOOTED
EuroDemos)
From: spence@cbmvax.commodore.com (Spencer Shanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: AA Features
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:55:35 GMT
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <JESMITH.92Sep15085442@flogger.gdfwc3> jesmith@gdfwc3 (Jesse Smith) writes:
>I noticed in the news posted from WOC that AmigaDOS 2.1 supports an
>800x600 mode with ECS, with an appropriate multisync monitor.
>I'm assuming here that it must be the "Super72" monitor referred to
>in your posting.  What kind of monitor/setup does it take to make this
>work?

The Super72 will work with any monitor that can handle a 72Hz vertical and
24kHz horizontal refresh. You will also need an ECS agnus and ECS denise (or AA
of course :-)

>
>BTW, my A3000/25 with a NEC Multisync 3DS does not seem to work using
>any of the Super72 modes, but perhaps I'm doing something wrong.

I don't think the NEC handles the Super72 rate - check the monitor specs.

>
>Thanks,
>Jesse Smith
>smith@riogrande.cs.tcu.edu


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From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: 4000
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:05:21 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <1992Sep12.004219.1688@sbcs.sunysb.edu> mrubino@csws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Michael N Rubino) writes:
 >In article <1992Sep11.201954.256@Rapnet.Sanders.Lockheed.Com> msnider@Rapnet.Sanders.Lockheed.Com (Marc A. Snider x0193) writes:
 >
 >>      - standard graphic modes up to 1280x400 (more with overscan)
 >
 >Including 800x600
 >
 >>      - up to 256,000 colors from a 16.8 million color palette
 >
 >The graphics are true 8bit (256 colors), but a new HAM mode gives you 256k
 >colors.

Don't know who ever came up with this number of 256k colors. It's too small!
Look, in PAL interlace, you have 1280x512 *plus* overscan. This is 640 K
pixels. And if you choose the base colors of your HAM8 properly, you can
have *every* color of the 24-bit palette, so you can give every pixel its
own color. Thus I count over 640k colors and not "only" 256k :-)

The issue of the base colors is the following: In HAM8, you have 6 bits
for data and 2 bits for control. If the upper 2 bits are zero, the lower
6 bits select one of 64 base palette colors. And you can choose those.
When any of the 2 control bits is set, the lower 6 bits serve to set the
*upper 6 bits* of the selected color component (determined by the 2 bits).
So you can't modify the lower 2 bits of a palette base color. BUT: If you
look deeper into it, you will realize that with 64 base colors you can
generate a set of base colors that contain every possible combination
of the lower 2 bits of every color component (RGB, 64=4x4x4). This
provided plus modifying the upper 6 bits freely lets you definitely
reach *every* color of the 24-bit (8 bits each for RGB) palette!

 >The HAM modes now support 640x480.  This gives you the 256,000 colors CBM
 >is talking about.  As far as Workbench or other productivity software is
 >concerned you can only get 256 colors at 640x480.

Here it is again...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: jayscott@wpi.WPI.EDU (Jason Scott Anderson)
Subject: Beginner A3000 questions on hardware
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:46:46 GMT


I tried posting this message yesterday, but it seems there was a bit of a
mishap with the text editor, so I'll try again.  I recently obtained a 3000
as an upgrade from a 2000, and was examining the chip innards and comparing
to that of the 2000.
   I had a few questions...There are some new VLSI chips I am unfamiliar with:
Gary is now mounted differently, I am assuming to accomodate SCSI control..?
There is a chip called RAMSEY near the RAM expansion, which I assume is to contorl
RAM access requests..?  There is also a VLSI chip which says DMAC on it, I'm
guessing for DMA control..?
   Also, by the ZIP sockets for expansion, there looks like room for about 8
DRAM chips - what goes there? Anything?  Also, the Kickstart ROM is contained
on 2 chips instead of 1...why was this done? (Guess: uncertain as to the final
size of the ROM, explaining the room for 2 more ROM chips next to those.)
CPU and FPU were surface-mounted (cute), but the big $20,000 question is: what
is the long expansion slot near the edge of the motherboard labeled "Fast Bus" or
something like that? It's a connector I'm very unfamiliar with...It looks almost
like it's for a ribbon cable or something, but it all routes straight into the
data bus, I think...What's it for? I've never heard of anything built to use
that slot.
   Anyway, if anybody can confirm, deny, or expand upon any of my queries, I would
be greatly appreciative. Thanks!


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From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: ALICE
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:50:28 GMT
Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Sep14.045808.3129@ultb.isc.rit.edu> tsm2124@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:

>	Does anyone have the low down on the supposed ability of Alice to
>address 4 megs of chip ram 

It's a total fabrication.  Alice only addresses 2MB of Chip RAM.  End of story. 

>why this wasn't done (and the sound chip) before the A4000 was announced.  

Everything that's integral to the A4000 is on the A4000.  If Alice could
address 4MB of Chip RAM, the A4000 would support it.  It doesn't, so it doesn't.
Enhanced sound probably has something to do with the "DSP" that was mentioned
by Jim Dionne and Lew -- typically, for high performance sound processing,
you need a sound processor.

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From: gkropf@bfield.uucp (Gary Kropf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Monitor Problems and Questions  PLEASE HELP!
Date: 5 Sep 92 06:17:29 EST
Organization: Bakers Field BBS

I had a similar problem and the board in the monitor had to be resoldered. The
1084 models are know for this problem...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: rhealey@kas.helios.mn.org (Rob Healey)
Subject: 3000T motherboards, where are they made now?
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 19:11:19 GMT
Organization: Rob's home system, Hopkins, MN

	Since C= US doesn't make any Amiga's anymore, where are 3000T
	motherboards made? I ask because a friend on "Gold Service",
	you know the "next day" service, lost his motherboard and
	when he called Gold Service to have it fixed they basically
	told him there were no more motherboards available but they'd
	get ahold of him whenever some more were made. That was 3
	weeks ago and he's still waiting for "Gold Service" to make
	good on their "next day" service...

	Where are the boards made? Why can't Gold Service Fed. Ex
	or whatever one out? Why has nothing been done in over 3 weeks?

	No wonder nobody take's Amiga's seriously as business machines.

	Luckily my friend could switch over to a development tabletop
	3000 to run his business, the 3000T was a UNIX server for
	3 Amigas and some DOS and OS/2 PC's. He's lost a development
	machine in the process though and product development has been
	severely impacted.

	I guess Commodore uses a definition of "next day service" that
	I've never heard of before...

	Anyways, where are the motherboards MADE?

		-Rob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: v041555@plato.lsvl8.stortek.com
Subject: Bridgeboard System 4-sale cheap!
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.emulations
X-Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:50:17 GMT
X-From: v041555@plato.lsvl8.stortek.com

X-Sender: usenet@stortek.com
X-Nntp-Posting-Host: plato
X-Organization: StorageTek
X-Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:58:58 GMT

XT Bridgeboard system for sale!

System is currently up in running in my 2000, but I just got a 386 and no
longer need it.

System includes:
2088 Bridgeboard
8087 math coprocessor
5 1/4 floppy drive
30 MB Miniscribe hard disk with MFM controller
serial/parallel card
VEGA VGA card

I am asking $250 for all (a steal, I think) or trade for a Flicker-Free-Video 2
card.  

E-mail questions and offers please!
Thanks,
Ken
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: jma1128@venus.tamu.edu (Jason)
Subject: Ways to double hard drive capacity???
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 22:03:00 GMT

I have a standard Amiga 2000HD with a 52 meg hard drive. Is there a program,
such as "Stacker" for the IBM, that can be installed on the hard drive and
will automatically double the capacity of the drive without any special
work everytime something is added or removed. Your information would be
appreciated.

Jason Adams
JMA1128@ZEUS.TAMU.EDU
From: violator@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Violator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: How to add a 2nd SCSI HD to the A3000
Summary: What do I need to do?
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:05:01 GMT
Organization: UT

I have recently purchased a 3.5 Maxtor 120 meg hd.  I need to know what I
should do when installing it.  I heard in the past something about SCSI
termination being a problem when adding a 2nd HD.  Could someone give me 
advice on what to do.\

Mike


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: cshort@nmsu.edu (Spmg*d, Lord of Potted Meat Product)
Subject: amiga in a sun box
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:52:58 GMT



quite some time ago, i read a post mentioning putting an amiga 500
motherboard into a sun pizzabox. would whoever posted that send me
full info. actually, it would be usefull for anybody who has
experience remounting 500 motherboards to send me info on how they did
it and where they put it.

thanks.

c.
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From: strat@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Multiport IO, what are my options?
Date: 6 Sep 1992 05:03:13 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

I need at least two parallel ports and two serial ports IN ADDITION to
the ports on my stock Amiga 3000.  What are my options?

Please respond through E-mail.

Stratocaster

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From: Boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Multiport IO, what are my options?
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:56:18 MET
Reply-To: boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander)
Distribution: world
Organization: System Information 2.0 Development
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <drew.030m@bootrom.MtRoyal.AB.CA> drew@bootrom.MtRoyal.AB.CA (Steve Drew) writes:
> In article <18cl11INN63m@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> strat@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Davis) writes:
> > I need at least two parallel ports and two serial ports IN ADDITION to
> > the ports on my stock Amiga 3000.  What are my options?
> > 
> Me Too. (an others I know of). A board with 2 serial & 2 parallel ports would
> be a real hot seller. Why can't someone realize this and make one. If there
> is such a beast please let us know.

There is. It is made by BSC of Germany and is called the MultiFace card. 
It is a Zorro II standard and has two paralell and two serial ports. It's
a half lentgh card. The serial part is similar to ASDG's Dual Serial board.
Price in Germany DM 390.- Check your local paper for the exchange rates.

BSC Phone +49-89-357-1300 / Fax: +49-89-357-13099

(I'm not involved with BSC in any way. Just supplying info!)

CYa, Paul

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From: jms@tardis.Tymnet.COM (Joe Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Postscript support in OS , means what ??????????
Summary: AmigaDOS-2.1 supports Postscript printers.
Keywords: PS
Date: 15 Sep 92 06:11:42 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Organization: BT Tymnet, San Jose, CA

Commodore announced that version 2.1 (and 3.0) of AmigaDOS supports
Postscript printers.  The printer driver software converts ASCII to
Postscript, converts ANSI codes (bold, underline, italics, etc) to
Postscript, and converts screendumps to Postscript.

This is not the same thing as software that would read an existing
Postscript file to display it on the screen.

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From: ss7m+@andrew.cmu.edu (Steven M. Stadnicki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Need help with A590/SCSI
Date: 5 Sep 92 09:06:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.seeCYMC00WB3JUh1Eq
Organization: Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA




Hello there.  I need help with my A590.  I just yanked the old 20meg XT
drive that was in there and put in a Quantum 105lp.  The drive spins up
right and etc, and the HD toolbox program recognizes it for a 105Q
and all.  But when I try to do a HDtoolbox Low level format it just
blinks for a second and says done.  I tried to do a prepHD, but that
doesn't work as it's set up for the WD20meg.  I try to do a FormatHD
(These are all from the A590 setup disk.  I have only 1.3 dos) and
it seems to format right, counting down and all, but when it gets
to installing dos, it stops and I get a little "Not a DOS disk in unit
0" box up on the screen.  Same for InstallHD.  I'm thinking that
perhaps I need a special program for installing a SCSI drive or something.
Has anyone else had this same problem and can help me?  Please E-mail
responses to "ss7m@andrew.cmu.edu"  Many thanks in advance!


     Steve

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From: sticht@edith.deg.sub.org (Stefan Sticht)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re:  4000
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:20:04 GMT
Organization: private

In article <1992Sep13.205844.1@sevmsa.cs.msstate.edu> gowen@sevmsa.cs.msstate.edu writes:
>In article <1992Sep13.215039.29476@hubcap.clemson.edu>, charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV) writes:
[...]
>Since we are on the subject of pricing, I just wanted to add a few thoughts.
>IBM (I don't like the word either) users can get an i486 machine complete
>for about $2000.  I believe this is the "DX" machines with a 32-bit bus.  A
>complete A4000 (system & monitor) would cost (using the $2900 figure above)
>roughly $3400 depending on the monitor.  The difference is about $1400,
>which is significant.  I feel that the Amiga is a much better machine, but
>this price difference is too large.  I can afford to pay the difference, but
>there are many users out there that cannot.  I just hope C= can figure out
>some way to lower prices and yet keep the same high quality, which we all
>enjoy very much.  If anyone can justify the large price difference, I am
>sure everyone would like to read about it.  Oh yes, my statements above
>assume that the two machines are fairly comparable as far as performance and
>standard abilities, which I believe is an accurate statement.

No doubt, clones are cheaper. But how much did a 486 cost when it came out?
Wait some months and compare prices later.

Gruss, Stefan
From: dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: GVP-II & A2090
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 11:09:53 GMT
Organization: More like Dis~, really.
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In article <1992Sep8.045151.7418@lugb.latrobe.edu.au>, Tri Darkstar writes:

> Is it possible to use a GVP-II and a the Hard disk controller A2090, at
> the same time.  I have a 20meg HD using the A2090, a was think about
> buying a GVP-II with another HD and memory.  Can I do it??

Yes. 

I am using a GVP Series 2 with 200Mb Quantum Pro, as well as my
original 2090a disk controller with 44Mb ST506 Rodime.

I did try having three HD's running, but the system seemed to get
flaky [too much power consumption with the accellerator card, two
disk controllers and a dual serial boad], so I'm back to two.

Dac
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: aciceran@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (A. J. Ciceran)
Subject: Re: 4000
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 21:44:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.162639.1888@en.ecn.purdue.edu> bevis@en.ecn.purdue.edu
(Jeff Bevis) writes:

>>>Unfortunately CBM left an equally important half of the "MultiMedia"
>>>equation off their list.  The new machines still do only crappy 8 bit audio.

>Well, this is the most disappointing aspect of the 4000 for me.  I was
>really looking forward to great new graphics and sound.  They got 1/2 of it.

Aren't you guys being a bit presumptious, considering the fact that Jim Dionne
indicated that a DSP board would be available within 6 months? A DSP
board is certainly much more versatile than a revised Paula and the
possibility is very strong that such a card will be available for the
existing Zorro-based machines (A2000/3000).
From: jeffs@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Jeff Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: What to do with an Amiga 1000 ??
Date: 12 Sep 1992 22:25:20 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

I don't read this group much so pardon any ignorance..

I use to be heavily involved with Amiga before I got into IBMPC stuff.
I have an Amiga 1000 with 512K memory that has just sat for
a couple years......  Is it even worth trying to start using or
upgrading to it?? Or should I just sell it.  Like I say I use to read
all the magazines and I even have some of the very FIRST Fred Fish disks,
etc...  I don't even know what the Amiga can do anymore. Sad I know......
I guess I got out of it becuase I didn't have a hard drive and things
really needed a hard drive but I couldnt fork out the money.

What would you do? How much could I get for it if I sold it? THanks.

Jeff Smith
jeffs@matt.ksu.ksu.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: zarthac@camelot.bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons)
Subject: Tape Drives
Organization: Bradley University
Date:  6 Sep 92 19:47:03 GMT

How hard would it be to hook a Colorado Memory Systems' Tape drive
(the 120 meg one) up to an Amiga through say, the parallel port?  The
CMS drive hooks up to an IBM through the flopppy connector.  Does
anybody have the pinouts for this connector?  I know I'd have to write
my own interface software, but before I do that, is the connection
possible?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: SCSI-Streamer on A3000
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 11:06:52 GMT

In <manfred.01jd@edomdo.UUCP> manfred@edomdo.UUCP (Manfred Dolag) writes:
>Either the WD33C93A is under certain conditions unable to identify the
>Message In phase correctly or the streamer bios is "messing up" the SCSI
>timing.

I'd rather think that the streamer messes up the timing as there are no
problems with other devices. I use an 33C93A myself (although I use the
AMD part, not the one from WD).

>It does *not* occur if we use the same CDB with a length >6 filled up with
>zero! With a CDB length > 7 the device driver always gets a SCSI state of
>0x4F "unexpected phase Message In" instead of the "correct" state 0x1F
>after CDB transmission. The device driver can handle this difference and
>proceedes correctly.

Never happened to me. I use the 33C93A in advanced mode, I always write
the length to the ownid register and fill up the number of CDB bytes
used.

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