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From: jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Time's Arrow - Enterprise time travel?
Date: 10 Oct 1992 00:20:56 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <2896@perl-sun.dwrsun4.UUCP> perl@dwrsun4.UUCP (Robert Perlberg) writes:
>One thing that bothered me is, why were they so dependent on the
>aliens' time travel technology?  Why couldn't they have just taken the
>Enterprise back in time which would have given them a home base and a
>convenient way of bopping back and forth to the present?  By this time,
>time travel should be a perfectly commonplace thing.  The TOS
>Enterprise traveled back to the 60's without much fanfare in
>"Assignment: Earth" as part of a mission.  Some years later (ST4:TVH)
>Kirk and company time traveled in a Klingon mini-bus using calculations
>that Spock did off the top of his head.  By TNG's time there should be
>a "Time Travel" button on the control panel.  Yet TNG has never taken
>advantage of this capability.  They act like it never existed.  Every
>time they encounter a time traveler they are fascinated.

	I wondered this for a time, too.  I think the biggest reasons are
(1) that the Federation has an unwarrented fear of time travel,
(2) the drive and propulsion systems on the E-D are fundamentally different
    from those used seventy years earlier (more environmentally correct? :),
(3) they'd be time-traveling every week.

	Number 1 is probably the most likely reason - the idea that time is
incredibly fragile and can be mauled with the slightest touch seems to pervade
sf today.  Number 2 would be the most absolute (and before anyone mentions the
Guardian of Forever, we don't know if that's still around or accessable; before
anyone mentions the dozen or so novels it's been used in, let's remember that
Bermen and Piller can contradict those at their pleasure) reason, and number 3
is probably the best reason backstage - although this would make a good thing
for the Enterprise-G (or so) to do ten or twelve years from now.

						-Jay


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From: gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang)
Subject: Re: Quality of writing in TNG (was something else)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:32:59 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.134452.7867@hellgate.utah.edu> jwindley%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Jay Windley) writes:
>The script guidelines given to new writers (and presumably encouraged
>among experienced writers as well) seem stifling to me.  We discussed
>this a while back, and one person commented that a good writer should
>be able to produce a good script even with these constraints.
>But I don't think that good writers would bother with it.  Every
>writer has to deal with others wanting to change material or make it
>conform to some standard, but I imagine the good writers will stay
>away from overconstrained situations, like TNG.

	It's not so much the intial constraints, but the interference that
goes on after the intial story that goes on.  I know plenty of good writers
(read award winners) who don't mind the initial conditions, but are leary
of treatment once production begins.

>I see some shortsightedness here.  If the story doctrine remains
>unchanged, I think fans will abandon TNG as a stagnant, unimaginative
>waste of time, and it will die.

	Doubtful, considering the unconditional adulation the True Fans
seem to give every episode (see aftermath of Atsushi's departure).



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From: tiverson@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Thor Iverson)
Subject: Re: PAD's dire nudity predictions come true
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:47:06 GMT

In article <67635@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
>I don't think they had her nude, did they?
>
>PAD

Ah, the things you miss when you don't pay attention...

[  ;-) for those of you who require one ]
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From: ph111-bx@violet.berkeley.edu (;;;;7202)
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Subject: Re: Dyson Sphere (spoilers)
Date: 16 Oct 1992 06:40:18 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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Keywords: TNG dyson sphere

In article <2ADE306D.7009@news.service.uci.edu> sclancy@orion.oac.uci.edu
(Steve Clancy) writes:
>The dyson sphere was supposed to have been made or "carbon
>neutronium."  Now I'm not exactly sure what that is chemically, but it
>sounds very dense to me.

Also, the hull of the planet killer in the TOS episode "The Doomsday Machine"
was "solid neutronium."
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From: simons@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Sarah Simons)
Subject: Re: MOTP error? <* Spoilers *>
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:48:06 GMT

I've heard of people's hair turning gray overnight.  It's not uncommon
with a shock.  I don't know what causes it.  But two more (fictional)
examples are from Sweeney Todd and also in the Stand (Nadine?).  
Both were frightened and had their hair turn grey overnight.
I don't think it has anything to do with it "growing in" grey.

Sarah J. Simons
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From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: O'Brien's Rank [THE FINAL ANSWER]
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:13:33 GMT
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In <1992Oct7.104222.20146@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams) writes:

>So are you REALLY saying the "Transporter Chief" was NOT Miles O'Brien?
>Also, we have seen T.C.'s under LT O'Brien's command who were ENSIGNS.

In the Navy, part of a junior officer's training involves standing
watches under petty officers.  The petty officer in charge is told,
"Treat him like a Seaman Apprentice, but don't forget that he's an 
officer."  It isn't hard to believe that Star Fleet does the same thing.

Of course, that doesn't explain why, in "Disaster," O'Brien was 
considered to be senior to the Ensigns on the bridge.  Of course,
the writers in that episode didn't realize that a staff officer
like Deanna Troi was outside the line of command, either.   

The real final answer: I doubt if even the writers know what
O'Brien's rank is!
From: David_Woodsworth@mindlink.bc.ca (David Woodsworth)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Elementary, Dear Data Question.
Date: 8 Oct 92 06:08:50 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Curt R Lindmark writes:
>
> Well, for starters, only Soong had the cybernetic knowhow to create Data
> and
> Lore, and that Soong is now dead, I think it would be very difficult to
> create another android body.  Not impossible, mind you, just very
> difficult.
> It generally takes the entire Engineering section to fix something in
> Data when it goes haywire.  It would take far more resources to build
> another one.  Data is, after all, one of a kind.

Errr ... didn't Data create a daughter in his spare time?  She actually
turned out to be better that him, as I recall.

David

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From: v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: The Rumor of the Sela/TOS Episode...
Date: 15 Oct 92 09:31:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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In article <1992Oct15.053838.2092@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows) writes...
> 
>Hmmm...if there IS a TNG episode where Sela goes back in time and 
>captures members of TOS in an attempt to wreck history, and it involves
>Sulu and the Excelsior, maybe Scotty (who probably doesn't like this
>future much anyway) could go back with him...  :)

     And they could call the episode THE KILLING TIME and make
     the first adaption of a Pocket Books novelization...  (a
     stupid - and K/S - one at that. 

      Anyway, Sela has been dropped.  Probably won't see her
      again (unles....)

>--

>---Chris Meadows  CHM173S@SMSVMA or CMEADOWS@NYX.CS.DU.EDU
>        "Wish in one hand and do something else in the other, then 
>          squeeze them both and see which one comes true."
>                    ---Corwin, NINE PRINCES IN AMBER by Roger Zelazny

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From: myleslee@next15pg2.wam.umd.edu (Alan Brady Ward)
Subject: Re: Music: TNG vs. TOS
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:54:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep23.161318.18299@athena.mit.edu> johnnyp@athena.mit.edu  
(John Piscitello) writes:
> In article <1992Sep22.180907.26441@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>  
hrsn@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Daniel Harrison) writes:
> >The theme music for TNG is a real disappointment compared to that of
> >TOS. They've given us this needlessly martial hymn of triumph, com-
> >plete with compositionally bad parallel fifths at the end of the  
phrase.
> 
> 	No, there are no parallel fifths. What theme are you hearing?
> 
> >TOS, on the other hand, had a truly great theme, much more suggestive
> >of the unknown and of the excitement of exploration. (What *is* that
> >instrument that "sings" the melody?)
> 
> 	First off, the instrument that "sings" the melody is - lo and
> behold, could it be, yes, it is! - a soprano!
> 	
> 	The music in TOS is *hopelessly* dated. "Suggestive of the  
unknown?"
> To a naive 1960's audience, yes. Come on, it is *so* unsophisticated
> the way the theme uses an angel-like soprano voice in the theme to  
convince
> us that the story takes place in the "heavens". PUH-LEEZ! 
> 
> 	And those congas in the percussion section? What is this?
> Ricky Ricardo and I Love Lucy? That REEKS of 60's!
> 
> 	I might also add the TNG still uses the opening fanfare that
> TOS's theme used (that's what you hear during the "Space, the Final  
Frontier"
> monologue). AND...the TNG theme has appeared in several of the
> Star Trek movies.  It may even predate the TNG series, though I'm not  
sure.
>


First I heard of it was STTMP.  Slow it was a slowed down version to go  
along with the rest of the movie. 
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From: jcomer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan C Comer)
Subject: Cover art on _Best Destiny_
Summary: Young Kirk looks suspiciously like ...
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:05:39 GMT

Minor spoiler about the cover of _Best Destiny_ :



Does anyone else think that "young Jim Kirk" on the cover of this book looks a
whole lot like Wil Wheaton?  I sure do.

Jon
From: am815@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Peter Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Novelizations of ST:TNG Episodes
Date: 16 Oct 1992 13:35:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: am815@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Peter Anderson)
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In a previous article, luther@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Luther) says:
>
>To follow up my own post, I wonder why they just don't rename themselves
>Pocket Bucks instead of Pocket Books?


Yeesh - I think making full novels of each episode is a better deal,
myself; I >WANT< more, not less trek - if I want a precis of the story I
can tune in here.  Which is why I also like the text-trek continuum of
non-filmed stories.  I think it is fun to let a writer fill out the story
and explore details.  Nobody is holding a gun to your head to force you t
buy the books are they?  If one is patient, they can eventually read these
books from libraries for what it costs to watch the series: nothing.  I am
not patient and buy most of the paperbacks - some people are not patient and
watch the show with satellite rigs as soon as  available, too.

Why shouldn't they make as much from the property as they can?  This
technique goes back to the Starlog books, that began with multiple stories
per book, and wound up with full novels being made of each 1/2 hour (!)
cartoon. 
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From: psybeast@world.std.com (The Unknown)
Subject: Re: Stupid question about Peter David
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 06:36:45 GMT

Are there plans for an "R" or "X" video for the masses??

Not that I want to see Star Trek become porno, but some extra steam would
be nice...

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From: scott.hollifield@the-matrix.com (Scott Hollifield) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: O'Brien's Rank [THE F
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:26:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The MATRIX BBS - Birmingham, AL - 205-323-2016
Reply-To: scott.hollifield@the-matrix.com (Scott Hollifield) 

TO:dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu

DA> >> >2. Lt. Cmdr Crusher's promotion to Cmdr. after Starfleet tour.
DA> >> I'm pretty sure that Bev was a *full* CDR from the very beginning.
DA> >I could have swore I saw LCDR pips at Far Point.

DA>Nope...  All the press releases listed her as Commander.

Here's a not-so-early screw-up: the display screen in "Conundrum" listed
Dr. Crusher as a lieutenant commander.  Go figure!
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From: perl@dwrsun4.UUCP (Robert Perlberg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Time's Arrow - Enterprise time travel?
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:44:56 GMT
Organization: Dean Witter Reynolds Inc., New York

One thing that bothered me is, why were they so dependent on the
aliens' time travel technology?  Why couldn't they have just taken the
Enterprise back in time which would have given them a home base and a
convenient way of bopping back and forth to the present?  By this time,
time travel should be a perfectly commonplace thing.  The TOS
Enterprise traveled back to the 60's without much fanfare in
"Assignment: Earth" as part of a mission.  Some years later (ST4:TVH)
Kirk and company time traveled in a Klingon mini-bus using calculations
that Spock did off the top of his head.  By TNG's time there should be
a "Time Travel" button on the control panel.  Yet TNG has never taken
advantage of this capability.  They act like it never existed.  Every
time they encounter a time traveler they are fascinated.

Robert Perlberg
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From: schamber@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Sylvain Chamberland)
Subject: Re: star trek TNG censorship: I.R.A. victory
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:05:06 GMT

In article <DEMILLO.92Oct6162905@egeus.juliet.ll.mit.edu> demillo@juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Robert DeMillo ) writes:
>In article <pmcgttgn.718377094@unix1.tcd.ie> pmcgttgn@unix1.tcd.ie (Paul Mc Gettigan ) writes:
>
>
>> Do any of you trekkies out there know the title of the episode in ST/new generation in which
>> a reference is made to a 'fictional' victory of the IRA (Irish Republican Army) over the
>> British forces sometime in the 21st century.
>
>Yup. I cannot remember the title, but it was on a visit of the Enterprise
>to Ensign Ro's homeworld of Bjoran. I remember being somewhat amused at
>this statement, thinking "well, that took some balls..." It was said
>by Picard when he was "stolling" with Ro through her war-torn countryside...
>the conversation was, I believe, a debate on the futility of 
>underground movements, terrorist activities, etc etc etc. as an
>effective medium of change.
>
>Someone help me out here, what was the title?

Well, "Ensign Ro", of course!  :)

But are you sure that's the episode with the reference to IRA?

Was it not the episode in which Dr. Crusher was abducted, in the 3rd
season, "The High Ground"???

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From: huggins@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Jim Huggins)
Subject: Novelization for "Relics"
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:29:48 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.033211.25298@eng.umd.edu> wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez) writes:
|And finally, for anyone who's interested, the novilization of "Relics" is
|out.  

Can you give more information (author, publisher, price, etc.)?

Inquiring minds want to know.

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From: IA80024@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Nicholas C. Hester)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Blowing up the Borg (was Re: Mistake in Borg episode)
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:33:41 GMT
 <1992Oct8.131240.11209@urbana.mcd.mot.com>
 <92Oct11.223538.30948@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.tech
Organization: University of Maine System

In article <92Oct11.223538.30948@acs.ucalgary.ca>, jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca
(Joshua Bell) says:
>
>In article <1992Oct8.131240.11209@urbana.mcd.mot.com>
>
>Antimatter doesn't transport well in large quantities, and this
>is what photon torpedoes use to cause damage.

I thought that photorps carried what, 1.5 kilos per?  Certainly in the
TOS episode where Kirk beamed to the planet to kill the blood monster
he carried at least that much.  I say that the Borg might be able to
ascertain if the E were trying such a stunt and prevent it.  Of course,
to allow it would make for an incredibly short show.

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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: un: beta-zoid plexing
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:19:20 EST

 -=> On 10-13-92  15:52, Robert Hami Ballantine babbled to All saying: <=-

 >Actually, looks like Barkley fooled *you*. Obviously he was rushing to say
 >it worked just so he could leave Troi's office ASAP.

 RHB> Well then why was he "plexing" when he was alone in his quarters
 RHB> trying to sleep?

I was under the impression that initially Barkley just said anything to
get the hell out of the office, and then when he was REALLY nervous gave
it a try.  Obviously it didn't work.  Perhaps it was a placebo but
Barkley was just too nervous to get it to work.


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From: ys3359@thor.albany.edu (Yazmasterj)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Time's Arrow - Enterprise time travel?
Date: 13 Oct 92 02:30:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: sarah.1992Oct13.023035.6981
Organization: State University of New York at Albany

In article <1bcq57INN1rf@bigboote.WPI.EDU> jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.202559.17416@ichips.intel.com> smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~) writes:
>>
>>Ya, in TS3:TSFS the young ensine seeing Kirk get into the transporter says "my
>>God!! that's admiral Kirk!!", in other words kirk and the rest of the crew are
>>the stuff of legends...Yet in TNG they treat Kirk and the rest like
>>nothing...Comon guys treat em like the gods they are....It wouldn't have taken
>>Kirk five years to get in Dr Crushers pants...;)
>>Stephen 
>
>	Hey, it has been 75 years.  How many of us treat Teddy Roosevelt as a
>god?  Besides, maybe by TNG's time Kirk & co.'s achievements have (somehow)
>been overshadowed.

Yet Spock is an honored legend.  In fact in Unification, when Spock mentions
"another captain he once knew", Picard acknowledges that he is in excellent
company.  McCoy also was referred to as an extraordinary man in EaF.  So
basically they have been completely inconsistent in how they deal with
TOS.  So what else is new?

Yasmin

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From: 01klcampbell@bsu-ucs.uucp (Kenton Campbell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: TNG Credits: Man Of The People
Date: 7 Oct 92 05:58:44 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current


In article <1992Oct6.171156.26910@m.cs.uiuc.edu>, noe@cs.uiuc.edu (Roger Noe) writes:
> 			 Guest Stars
> Lucy Boryer				[Ensign Janeway]

I assume Ensign Janeway was the transporter chief....let's see more of her! 
Perhaps she can become the new primary transporter person after O'Brien leaves
for DS9.

> 			  Co-Stars
> J.P. Hubbell				Ensign

Well, at least when Troi goes ballistic, she has good taste!  Let's see more of
this ensign too!  :-)


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Subject: Re: Ross Perot
From: rdale@cstp.umkc.edu
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 19:14:33 GMT
Organization: UM - Kansas City, Computer Science

> Has anybody noted the facial similarities between Ross
> Perot and a Ferengui?


	Although I keep meaning to mention this, unlike many previous
space aliens, TNG keeps some basis in fact for their names.  I can't
recall the specifics, but "ferhengi" (sp)?) is/was a group of
Earth-type folks.  Dang, my mind has gone blank on this one. . .