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From: dpicard@uva386.schools.virginia.edu (David Picard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Simple question about mac + PASCAL
Date: 16 Aug 92 21:52:22 GMT
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Charlottesville)

Just a simple question from someone who is new to this
newsgroup. I am interested in a program for the Mac which will
allow me to write programs in Pascal.Any suggestions would be
appreciated.

Thanx!  David
From: paul2@dcs.exeter.ac.uk (Paul Day)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Anyone got PD messy dos floppy reader ??
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:49:42 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. - University of Exeter. UK

seems like my last mesg got lost somewhere - what lo-cost / PD
software is used to read/ write messy-dos discs on the mac?

I use MSH: on my amiga and thats great (& free!!). What is the
equivalent in the apple-mac world?

Paul

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: vandelhg@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (MCG)
Subject: Re: Map Formats? (again)
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: Vanderbilt
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:35:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.140555.26049@crd.ge.com>, leue@crd.ge.com (Bill Leue)
wrote:
> 
> Does anyone out there know about formats for geographical maps?  I'm trying
> to learn something about the various formats used for archiving mapping
> information.
> 
		I forgot to tell you:  contact your local ESIC (if you can find it), or
call:
1-800-USA-MAPS.  The folks on the other end should be able to either
provide the info you need, or can direct you to the right source. 
Presently, the ESIC (Earth Science Information Center) system offers
several types of data in digital form, and it's their job to provide it to
users.  I quote from their pamphlet:
	"Much of the mapping information we have is now being converted to digital
form.  If the digits are in our data, we can provide them to you."
		"Call for our information package on digital cartographic data."

		If anybody can, it seems to me that the ESICs ought to be able to tell
you what formats are being used.  There are 75 ESICs, so there ought to be
one within a reasonable distance of you.  So give 'em a call, and good
luck.


MCG>
No, I don't have anything better to do.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Information on: The IIvi, IIvx, and Performa 600
From: Rob Winters <rwinters@nhqvax.hq.nasa.gov>
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:01:13 +0600
 <1992Aug17.152337.14511@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>     <1992Aug17.193928.10375@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Distribution: world
Organization: NASA Headquarters
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1a2Lines: 30



>The LC II is limited to 10 megs of RAM; the IIsi can use more than that
>(17 megs, I believe).

MacWorld, May 1992, pg. 141, sidebar: "IIsi vs. LCII"

math coprocessor: IIsi - provided by slot adapter boards, LCII - none
(provided by some 3rd party vendors)

data path: IIsi - 32 bit, LCII - 16 bit

expansion: IIsi - 32 bit NuBus or 32 bit 030 direct slot, LCII - 16 bit
LC slot

memory expansion: IIsi - 17mb, LCII 10mb (note: This is no longer true, 
as 16mb SIMMs ar available. That brings the IIsi up to 65mb. The LCII is
permanently stuck at 10mb!)

Built-in Video support for portrait display: IIsi yes, LCII no.

Soft power: IIsi yes, LCII no.

Sound: IIsi stereo, LC mono.


Well, the soft power and stereo sound are enough for me to recognize the
*real* Mac II in this police lineup!!! Time to place that order!

Rob
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: QuickTime Movies...
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:08:26 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Aug16.220656.14804@husc3.harvard.edu> vreddy@husc3.harvard.edu writes:

>Hey all... sorry 'bout this. I assume this is probably in the wrong place, and 
>it's probably been asked millions of times before, but I was wondering if 
>ANYONE could tell me WHERE I could find QuickTime Movies... 

If you have a CD-ROM, you can get BMUG's TV-ROM, containing about 400
Quicktime movies, for under $50.
From: jmale@uranie.inria.fr (Jean-Michel Male)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Writing MAC-readable floppies from Sparcstation
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:12:36 GMT
Reply-To: jmale@cosinus.inria.fr
Distribution: comp
Organization: INRIA Sophia Antipolis

In article <1992Aug20.224744.11647@access.usask.ca>, reid@skorpio.Usask.ca (Irving Reid) writes:
I.Reid|>         In some article, echong@porpoise.ecn.purdue.edu (Edwin Chong) writes:

E.Chong|>        > In article <1992Aug20.154105.2005@erg.sri.com> bienk@erg.sri.com (Marie Bienkowski) writes:
M.Bienkowski|>   >> The answer is a freeware MAC utility called "suntar" (for "Speranza's
M.Bienkowski|>   >> untar") that is available from sumex (or umich, I'm told) that runs
M.Bienkowski|>   >> on the MAC and that will read floppies written using UNIX "tar" or "bar."


E.Chong|>        > The Sun Sparcstation is capable of formating and writing to MS-DOS
E.Chong|>        > formatted diskettes. The Mac is capable of reading/writing from/to
E.Chong|>        > MS-DOS diskettes, using Apple File Exchange (comes with System 7).
E.Chong|>        > Why is there a need for Suntar?

I.Reid|>         Sparcs will read and write the same physical format as MS-DOS and Mac
I.Reid|>         FDHD drives (same track and sector layout, etc.).  What they don't do
I.Reid|>         is put a valid DOS directory on the disk.  AFE reads the DOS
I.Reid|>         directory from the disk; 

I.Reid|>         since there isn't one, AFE won't work.
                                            +++++++++++
	         Completely false.
		 It WILL work, using "/bin/fdformat -d".
		 Then, you can copy (mcopy), delete (mdel), eject(eject),
		 rename (mren), make a directory (mmd), change
		 permissions (mattrib), list a directory contents
		 (mdir), remove a directory (mrd), change to a
		 directory (mcd), label (mlabel) and see the content
		 of a file (mtype).

		 This works on a Sparc II, and should work on Sparcs
		 I, but the Sparc I we have here has no floppy driver.

		 Then, you take the floppy at home, put it in your
		 Mac, run AFE, translate and enjoy.
		 Don't forget to edit your files (with Alpha for
		 instance) and to rewrite them after replacing the
		 end-of-line Unix character by the Macintosh one.
		 
-- 

  
	Jean-Michel MALE'		\\\\\
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	Email: jmale@mirsa.inria.fr



(Mort aux vaches !)
From: hcheng@Auspex.COM (Howard Cheng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: How to HIDE Files on a mac to prevent Piracy?
Date: 16 Aug 92 17:28:33 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

It seems the thing to do would be to get some sort of security program, like
DiskLock or whatever to prevent unauthorized sneaking about on one's hard
disk. This may only work for local access, though. But if people are going
to be accessing your drive remotely, you can always set access privileges
over what they can and can't look at.

h.
From: flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: a non-techie view of Newton
Date: 20 Aug 92 04:25:51 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <ewright.714240488@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
>In <nb!nsy=.derek@netcom.com> derek@netcom.com (Derek LeLash) writes:
>
>>Newton and the PowerBooks have nothing in common except that they're from
>>Apple and they're black.  
>
>Not even that much.  Newton PDAs will be available not only from Apple,
>but from other companies such as Sharp (which now makes the Wizard) and
>Toshiba (which is developing a CD-ROM based multimedia version to be out 
>around the middle of next year.) 

This brings up a question I have.

Are the Newton PDAs and the ones from Sharp, Sony, etc identical or will
they be "Newton clones" that will have compatability problems?

Flip


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant)
Subject: Mac Stuff for Sale - Round 2
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:43:57 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

Here's a new list of Macintosh Goodies which I have
available as of today for sale. As usual, a (N)
indicates New stuff, while a (U) indicates used..

-------------------

(2) Apple 1.44 FDHD Diskette Drives, with internal
mounting bracket for SE, SE30, Mac II's etc..
They are (U) but in great working shape.. $100.00
per drive

(2) 1 Megabyte SIMMS for Macintosh, straight out
of an LC, these are 80ns 1024 SIMMS. (N) Condition
price to sell at $50.00 for both

(8) 512K SIMMS. These can be used in LC's, Ci's and
IIsi's. If your IIci has 5 meg of memory, throw
those old 256K chips out and pop a bank of 4x512K
chips in there, bumping you up to 6 meg. I have
2 sets of 4 for sale (N) condition, I will split
them up on a case by case basis.

price for the 512K's is $80.00 per set of four, thats
only $20 per half meg of memory!

(1) Powerbook 2mb memory upgrade.. take your powerbook
100 from 2mb to 4mb or your 140 or 170 up also. Some
140's and 170's already come with this installed..
Price (N) $150.00

(1) Apple Quantum 5.25 size 40mb hard drive. A large
beast (were't the good old days of drives great?),
but in great working shape. Formatted, with a system
6.0.5 folder on it, it'll make a fab external,
or if you have a mac to accomodate it, an internal 
(usually this means a Mac II, IIx, IIfx etc). This
item is Used and is going for $60.00 as is!

(Several) Apple Quantum 40mb 3.5 drives, all in
good working condition, formatted, with system
folder and ready to go.. Used but well taken
care of.. (U) $60.00 apiece.. (Please e
check on availability of these, things change
constantly)

That's it for now.. I should have some Quantum
80mb 3.5's coming in soon, new. Anyone interested
in the above items can reach me via e-mail, or
if you have already expressed interested in items
listed above, please e-mail me and remind me of your
offer.. Thanks for your interest folks!

Steve
"Sue your local government, fight corruption" - I did
From: king@acpub.duke.edu (King Rhoton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Foreign File Access and 32 bit clean?
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:28:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.


From king Fri Aug 21 12:28:47 1992
To: /afs/acpub/users5/king/.article


However, the latest version of Foreign File Access do not work with the Quadras.
King
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:14870 comp.sys.mac.wanted:7574 comp.sys.mac.hardware:15331
From: claudio@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Claudio S. Nascimento;E303)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: MAC LCII BUNDLE IN THE USA? HOW MUCH?
Date: 15 Aug 92 12:55:05 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

Hi,

Here in the UK, Apple is doing a special promotion of a Mac LCII
+ 12" colour monitor for lower than the normal price.

As a student, I can get the educational discount on top of the
promotion, and the price goes to around 2000 dollars (and that
is CHEAP here in the UK !!!!!!).

But it is not cheap enough. I would like to know if there is
any AppleCentre in the USA that sells cheaper than that, I
mean, can give me an educational discount and the promotional
price (if it applies in the USA).

If so, I would consider going to USA to buy the machine. Since
the air ticket costs around 400 dollars, I can spend around
1300 dollars.

So, I am looking for a Mac LCII 4/40 + 12" colour monitor for
around 1300 dollars.

Can you give me the name, address, phone number, and fax number
of a place where I can get such a deal???

Thanks in advance...

Claudio

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From: mackd@vccsouth13.its.rpi.edu (David Allen Mack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Alarm with sound
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:21:44 GMT
Reply-To: mackd@rpi.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.

> Hi, I'm trying to find a alarm program that actually tries to warn you of
> impeding disaster (missed meetings, burning stove, etc) with sound. Both
> Apple's clock program and SuperClock only flashes the Apple icon as the
> mean of "alarming". Any suggestions? System 7.0.1 w/Tuneup, on both IIsi
> and PB100.


Unless I, and my program have gone off deep end, SuperClock WILL play
sound when the alarm goes off.  I KNOW mine does, I use it everyday to
time things in the oven(it works well since I have no other alarm type
in my apartment).

	-Mack
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: vandelhg@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (MCG)
Subject: Re: Map Formats?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: Vanderbilt
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:02:16 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.140555.26049@crd.ge.com>, leue@crd.ge.com (Bill Leue)
wrote:

>  Can one buy a CD ROM for say, a hundred dollars, that would 
> give you city maps for several U.S. cities?
> 
> -Bill Leue
> leue@crd.ge.com


		Yes, such a product exists, and you used to be able to get it from
MacZone or MacWarehouse, but I (in my own inimitable way) have totally
forgotten the name.  But I suppose that you could call them and see...
		Also, the US Geological Survey (the guys that publish almost all
government maps) produce several CDs worth of map data -- mostly Digital
Line Elevation Models, and related stuff.  The one system I looked at was
(unfortunately) on a PC, so I don't know if they are Mac-compatible
(although I suspect that if you find the proper dealer/company, they'll
find a way).  Anyway, the one system was a government production and
offered various levels of zoom, overlays, and stuff like that.
		However, with the exception of those maps covering cities, you'll
probably have to settle for less detail than what you would find on the
average 7.5" 1:24,000 topographic quadrangle.
		If you really can't find a private company, try talking to your local
Government Documents Librarian at the nearest Government Depository.  At
the very least, they can point you at relevant USGS & DMA products.

		Also, see if you can't find any of those LOTUS:Homes, or
LOTUS:Marketplace CDs (some have been discontinued due to public protest). 
And finally, you might try tracking down something we in the map biz call
the TIGERFile:  it is a set of CDs that integrate topographic & planimetric
map data with the latest census results for the area being looked at -- so
you can slap down a "Per Capita Income" overlay on top of the regular map
display, etc...


MCG>
Who?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: reid@skorpio.Usask.ca (Irving Reid)
Subject: Re: Writing MAC-readable floppies from Sparcstation
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:47:44 GMT

echong@porpoise.ecn.purdue.edu (Edwin Chong) writes:

>In article <1992Aug20.154105.2005@erg.sri.com> bienk@erg.sri.com (Marie Bienkowski) writes:
>>The answer is a freeware MAC utility called "suntar" (for "Speranza's 
>>untar") that is available from sumex (or umich, I'm told) that runs
>>on the MAC and that will read floppies written using UNIX "tar" or "bar."


>The Sun Sparcstation is capable of formating and writing to MS-DOS 
>formatted diskettes. The Mac is capable of reading/writing from/to
>MS-DOS diskettes, using Apple File Exchange (comes with System 7).
>Why is there a need for Suntar?

Sparcs will read and write the same physical format as MS-DOS and Mac
FDHD drives (same track and sector layout, etc.).  What they don't do
is put a valid DOS directory on the disk.  AFE reads the DOS
directory from the disk; since there isn't one, AFE won't work.

 - irving (reid@cs.usask.ca) -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: michael@ecrc.de (M.J. Ratcliffe)
Subject: Fontomania!
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: ECRC GmbH  Arabellastrae 17  8000 Mnchen 81  Germany
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:53:48 GMT

Can anyone help me? I'm after two things:

	a) Indian fonts, particularly Hindi

	b) any free/shareware font building tools around?

I've looked in the usual places without success. Please email any replys
and I'll summarise if there's a general interest.

Thanks

--michael
From: soubyran@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Soubyran Richard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Misc questions...
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:52:42 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal


Hi Fellow Macers!

I have a few questions that I hope you will be able to answer... at
least try to!

1. Is it possible to run System 6.0.X on a Quadra (any one of them)?

2. Is there a utility which would permit me to run X-Windows on my
   Mac IIci? I am connected to a SGI Indigo at 9600 bauds (direct
   connect modem).

3. My boss, Professor Legendre, is undertaking a book on bio-stats.
   He would like to know which is the better DTP to use: PageMaker,
   FrameMaker or Nisus. His book will be about 400 pages and it
   will contain many mathematical expressions. He knows that in
   FrameMaker there is an equation editor.

4. Rumors wants that Apple will reveal new machines in November of
   this year... Should he wait for them or go for a Classic II?

5. Is there a co-processor in the LCII? Plus, is there an extension
   slot in it?

6. About laser printers now... should we go for another LaserWriter
   II NT or go for HP, Texas or any other brand? The volume of
   paper printed is not that important... as long as the printer is
   ps compatible. By the way.. could you tell me what is the
   difference between ps and eps?

7. Another Professor is planning to buy a IIci... shoud he go for
   one plus an accelerator or go for a Quadra? Speaking of
   accelerator... which is the best (understand more reliable) on
   the market? Is it Daystar or Radius or Tokamak?



I know I could ask all those questions to my nearest Apple
dealer... but the thing is that they are sellers! I am more
sensible to end-users opinions, not just "Yeah.. buy this.. it's
the best of this and that...". Real world users are much valuable
than any (car/mac!) sellers!

I thank you all in advance... 


Richard Soubyran
soubyran@alize.ere.umontreal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Blackplague)
Subject: Re: Apple menu items limited to 52?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: George Mason University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 23:52:55 GMT

In article <l9apbhINNcec@mensa.usc.edu>, joungwoo@mensa.usc.edu (John Kim)
wrote:
> 
> 
> Has anyone experience the following (what I'm experiencing)?
> 
> When I add more than 52 things (applications or aliases or anything else) to
> the Apple Menu Items folder, either the last item added or the item that
> comes last alphabetically disappears from the Apple Menu. (But when I check
> the AMI folder, it is surely still there.)


I just tried this on a Quadra and the same thing happened, with a twist.  I
put 50 folders in there (untitled folder - untitled folder 50), but only
1-35 showed up, and AFTER that I got the alias folder "Users"

Very strange
Blackplague
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: derek@netcom.com (Derek LeLash)
Subject: Re: a non-techie view of Newton
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 05:47:25 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <4603@news.duke.edu> jfw@neuro.duke.edu (John F. Whitehead) writes:
>
>I'm trying to decide whether to get a $900 PB100 -- if Newton will be
>competitive with this and will be out in the next six months I will
>wait for it, otherwise I'll go for the PB.
>
Newton and the PowerBooks have nothing in common except that they're from
Apple and they're black.  If you need a *computer*, it's hard to beat the
$900 PB price, so I'd say go for it.  If you already have a computer,
but are intrigued by the Newton's distinct capabilities, it might be worth
your money.  (PS:  it ain't gonna be out in six months.)  Maybe when
the Newton is actually available, people will stop thinking it's supposed
to function like a laptop computer.  Time to adjust our paradigms again...

Derek 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig)
Subject: Re: DOS on a Quadra?
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 22:49:56 GMT
Organization: Starfleet Headquarters: San Francisco

In article <1992Aug12.193501.1@nickel.laurentian.ca> g5000005@nickel.laurentian.ca writes:
>	First, has anyone loaded a DOS operating system onto a Quadra? If so, 
>what programs did you use?
>	Secondly, I guess the first question should have been CAN you load a
>DOS operating system onto a Quandra? {I know the literature says so, but...}

With the help of Insignia's SoftAT 2.5, I ran MS-DOS 5.0 on a Quadra
900.  It worked *perfectly*, and was rather peppy speed-wise, too.

Then, being the techno-sadist I am, I decided to try Windows 3.0.

Much to my surprise, it ran.  To call it 'sluggish' would be an
understatement, but it was still useable.  I told it to use my Mac's
hard drive as a 'network drive', then I used the Quadra to download
(via ftp) a bunch of .zip archives of Windows public domain files; in
the SoftAT window, I used the File Manager to copy the archives to the
'PC hard drive' where I then exited to DOS to run PK-zip and unarchive
them all; none of the resulting files and programs gave me the
slightest bit of trouble.

>why  would anyone WANT to run DOS app's, right? Well, this cowboy does. I've 
>spent too much money on  equipment and programs to give up on DOS {My 286 cost
>me way more than what 486's are costing now} From what I've read and heard, a
>Quadra sounds like I could get the best of both worlds.

On my Quadra 900, Windows 3.0 ran with the speed it would on a 286 or
386sx machine.  I'd wager that Windows 3.1 on a Quadra 950 would
actually be useable.

I heard that at MacWorld, Insignia was showing off a version of
their SoftPC program that was optimized to run Windows on a Mac.

Whatever floats their boats... :)

     << Brian >>

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