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From: clgp14@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Ibrox and industry
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:24:11 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <1992Jul17.144715.27002@tcom.stc.co.uk>, agd@tcom.stc.co.uk (Alastair Doggett) writes:
> 
>   Reading our company newspaper which is normally full of sales propaganda
> I came across an interesting little article concerning a sales event held
> at Ibrox.  5,800 invitations were sent out to companies who might have been
> interested in some of our technology, but the main incentive to attend was
> that the participants were offered a tour of the Ibrox trophy room, which as
> every discerning football fan knows is stuffed full of gleaming silverware.
> I was a bit worried that with so many trophies to look at there would be
> one hell of a queue building up outside the trophy room.
  Why wasn't  
> the event held at Parkhead ? 
Who the hell wants to go to a run down, pish stinking place like that?
Parkhead is a place for brainless people who only see a good football
teem twice a year when Rangers visits.
 Perhaps they've lost the key to the trophy
> room ? 
Perhaps they have thrown it away cause they don't need it anymore.

 Maybe the door hinges have seized up due to lack of use ?  Possibly
> it's just that Ibrox is a more pleasant place to visit ?
> 
>   Love to the hoops as ever, Al.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Alastair Doggett. <agd@tcom.stc.co.uk> | "A geezer who's out of order  
> BNR Europe,                            |    deserves a good slapping,
> Oakleigh Road South,                   |      otherwise there'd be anarchy"   
> London N11 1HB                         |        - Comms team code of conduct
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From: andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa)
Subject: Soccer Attendance at the Olympics
Organization: GTE Contel Federal Systems
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:18:09 GMT

What I have feared for a while seems to be coming true. Less than 10% of the
1.032 million soccer tickets put on sale have been sold as of July 8.  Soccer
ranks dead last in percentage of tickets sold amond all sports at the
Olympics.  The article gave some of the possible excuses but I think that it
is deplorable.  It looks like only 60,000 people in Spain have bought tickets
to the games.  The market surveys indicated that 400,000 to 600,000 people 
would buy ckets from Spain.  Gee do you think the market survey people will
get a good raise this year?

I certainly don't feel upset at NBC anymore.  This is scary.  Not only is 
soccer the least sold, it is also the cheapest ticket at the olympics.

I hope that it has picked up in the last couple of weeks or some of the games
will have almost no one in them.

Andy

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From: dsamm@boi.hp.com (Dan Sammartino)
Subject: European Championship Tape Wanted
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 22:08:52 GMT


Does anyone have a copy of the EC game between Denmark and Holland    
that I could get a copy from?  I will gladly ship a blank tape and
cover any postage and handling.  Also, the final between Denmark
and Germany?  I was out of town and had pre-set my VCR to tape the
final but Univision changed the time of the final and I couldn't 
get back in time to see it nor tape it.  I prefer commentary in any
language but American :)                                

Also, I have an extensive collection of World Cup games from '86
and '90 if any one has a particular game they would like to have.

Dan
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From: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Subject: Re: CONCACAF qualifying games
Keywords: incomplete!
Reply-To: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 29 Jul 92 00:44:26 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.220749.21871@pony.Ingres.COM> cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris) writes:
>CONCACAF qualifying results and fixtures:
>
>Central American Region, two-leg aggregate:
>
>Series 1
>--------
>
>Guatamala 0 Honduras 0
>Honduras Guatamala  <july 26>

Honduras 2 Guatamala 0

Honduras wins 2-0 on aggregate

>
>Winner to Group A
>
>Series 2
>--------
>
>Panama Costa Rica <august 16>
>Costa Rica Panama <august 23>
>
>Winner to Group A
>
>Series 3
>--------
>
>Nicaragua 0 El Salvador 5
>El Salvador Nicaragua <july 23>

El Salvador 5 Nicaragua 1

El Salvador wins 10-1 on aggregate.

>
>Winner to Group B
>

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"And there'll be more football in a moment, but first we've got
 highlights of the Scottish League Cup Final" -- Gary Newbon
From: eftv20@castle.ed.ac.uk (G C Stewart)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Scottish friendlies
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:07:44 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University


 Some interesting friendlies involving Scottish sides over the summer;

   Man. City 1 Celtic 3  (in Dublin - and apparently a canter for the
'Tic)
   St Johnstone 1 West Ham 4
   Hibernian 3 Blackburn Rovers 0 (Alan Shearer's debut)
   Hearts 1 Tottenham Hotspur 2
   Rangers 1 Marseille 2  (a good honest report from Scott)
   Middlesborough 1 Celtic 1 (Tony Mowbray's testimonial)
   Hearts 1 Newcastle 0
   Cowdenbeath 0 Chester City 0 ( I actually saw the Chester team bus in
 Pitlochry on Sunday - now isn't that interesting)
   Celtic 1 Man Utd 1

     So Celtic match up well to English Premier league opposition. Was
at the match with Man U last night. Celtic should have won - they looked
the sharper side but lack inscissivness up front. But at least the Hoops
look more elegant without the blurr of a shirt sponsor.

            Gerry
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From: vu0208@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (!)
Subject: Re: Calling NBC/triple cast for soccer complaints
Organization: State University of New York at Binghamton
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:18:48 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.190950.1612@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> mfiguero@lonestar.utsa.edu (Miguel . Figueroa) writes:
>
> Isn't UNIVISION a U.S. based network. I think they are based either in
> New York or Miami.  That's a lame excuse for not selling olympic soccer
> rights to UNIVISION.  NBC is apparently running out of excuses to cover
> up this blunder (Not showing soccer).  I guess NBC has forgotten that
> soccer is the world's most popular sport and not volleyball.
>
> Miguel

No it's FOOTBALL (the real name;not soccer) that is the world's most
popular sport. Perhaps americans have realized that by giving the name
like "soccer" to FOOTBALL was a mistake.

Note: FIFA the international organization calls it football not soccer!

If Handball (i mean American Football) was played in olympics, they
would have even forgotten to show the dream team playing basketball at
such a length! :(


Well what ever is available watch it...nothing will happen by
complaining to NBC..

For 2 consecutive olympics NBC has won the contract to show their
commentators to speak at primetime non-stop, rather than showing the
real action of the games.

(if i were the owner of NBC, which unfortunately i am not, i would
have slashed all the commentories and had just shown the real game to
the viewrs)

cheers.





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From: glenn@inmos.co.uk (Glenn Hill)
Subject: Re: Blackpool/Carter/Duffield
Reply-To: glenn@inmos.co.uk (Glenn Hill)
Organization: INMOS Limited, Bristol, UK.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:21:13 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.131827.7731@vax.oxford.ac.uk>
kryst14@vax.oxford.ac.uk (Alex Ashcroft) writes:

> I saw on teletext a couple of days ago that Blackpool were set to sign
> Mark Carter .... does anyone have any information about him?

Carter was a part-time player for Barnet. His other profession is a
market trader in Liverpool. He therefore spent a lot of time travelling
up and down the country. I don't think he was prepared to give up his
day job. It will be interesting to see if Blackpool allow that to
happen (if they get him). My understanding is that he is one of the
many part-time players that are reluctant to go part-time because it
would mean too big a drop in income.

He was a highly-rated non-league player and is still the all-time top
scorer in the Vauxall Conference with 174 goals, and the leading
non-league international scorer with 12. I'm not sure how old he
is, but he started his career with Bangor in 1983.

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From: vnguyen@intelhf.hf.intel.com (Vu Nguyen)
Subject: Re: US Olympic Soccer - Team
Organization: Development Tools Operation, Intel Corp., Hillsboro, OR
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 19:01:08 GMT

In article <Brv6Lx.5LH@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Barca writes:
>Hi!
>Does anybody know, if Tom Dooley from the german Bundesliga
>team 1.FC Kaiserslautern is going to play for the USA at
>the Olympics and if not, why ? He was supposed to play
>, but I cant find him in any lists.
>
>Thanks
>
>      Markus


  No, he won't.  The reason is that one has to be under 23 to play in the 
  Olympics.  Actually, none of the U.S. national players play in the Olympics.

  Vu.
From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: denmark vs ghana
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:15:05 GMT
Organization: Federation Internationale de Football Association

rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen) writes:

>Ghana proved themselves to be much better than Mexico and really shouldn't
>have any problems advancing. Denmark was playing better than against Mexico
>and should be able to send Australia back home.

Should and could are as we all know to different things. 2 hours ago I sat
down in front of the television to see Australia - Denmark. But I was
cheated: what I saw was Australia playing some unknown amateur team wearing 
red shirts and with some facial resemblance of the Danish players. I have
no idea how they managed to get past the security control, it's a scandal
that a team of impositurs can get on the field and pretend to be a real
team.

If anyone cared Australia won 3-0. 
-- 
Jesper Lauridsen      | Bramming Boldklub - eh ...
rorschak@daimi.aau.dk |
      Glasgow Rangers - AC Milan - FC Barcelona
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From: andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa)
Subject: MSL News
Organization: GTE Contel Federal Systems
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:07:55 GMT

Baltimore has become the first team to join the NPSL(an indoor league) and
others are expected to follow.

Unfortunately what most of us hoped would happen doesn't seem like it is going
to. No MSL team have responded to the APSL's  request that they join the
outdoor league.

Andy

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From: bootsma@fys.ruu.nl (Timo Bootsma)
Subject: Olympic soccer results
Organization: Physics Department, University of Utrecht,  The Netherlands
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:20:14 GMT

Here are the results of the 3rd round:












Group 1: Poland - USA 2-2
         Italy-Kuwait 1-0

         Poland and Italy qualified.

Group 2: Spain-Qatar  2-0
         Columbia-Egypt 3-4

         Spain and Qatar qualified.


timo
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From: femibyte@athena.mit.edu (Olufemi G Anthony)
Subject: Re: Egypt's performance (was Re: Olympic Soccer--Standings)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:31:44 GMT

In article <6240@kielouta.fi> csfraw@vehka.uta.fi (Francis Akoto) writes:

>Just before the olympics there was an argument on the net about African footbal
>and one guy said the best African teams are North  i.e Egypt,Algeria, Morrocco
>etc. He even said in Africa they ( the north Africans ) are cheated by referees
>and they play badly in Africa south of the Sahara b/c of the poor standard of
>the pitches.
>Now this is Bacelona, Good pitches , Nutural referees, and the whole world 
>watching and what happens.
> Both Nort African teams Morrocco & Egypt were terrible at the games. Egypt
>winning 4-3 in the last game proved nothing. Remember Spain beat Colombia 4-0.
>The only African country to advance to the next round was Ghana. This is the
>team the guy claims are not in the best 10 footballing nations in Africa.
>
>Egypt Sucks and they know that

>Francis A-Akoto             | csfraw@vehka.cs.uta.fi| Who the cap fits let
>Department Of Comp. Science | csfraw@kielo.cs.uta.fi| them wear it . 
>PL 607                      |                       |
>33101 Tampere,Finland       |                       |         - Bob Marley


Well, actually, the guy's name is Ossama Ahmed Essa at UC Berkeley, and if I
remember correctly, our "enlightened" friend said that Ghana did well in
the Nations Cup because they used magic in their games. So I guess
that's what happened this time. Ah the power of BLACK MAGIC !!!!!!!!


Femi.
From: t-frans@microsoft.com (Francis Stanisci)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: earrings and things
Date: 21 Jul 1992 09:58:50 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

When my father and I would ref. games, we would inspect all players for 
*dangerous* equipment.  This included items that presented a danger to 
others (sharp objects, loose objects that could catch, illegal shoes, 
etc.), as well as a danger to themselves (earrings, dangling bracelets 
and chains, etc.).

Safety is very important, and should never be taken lightly.

Francis.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: jussi@lut.fi (Jussi Salminen)
Subject: Finnish League, 18th round
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 07:24:54 GMT
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland


	Finnish League, 18th round, 23rd July:

FC Haka		2-1	FC Ilves	(0-1)		2 608
86. Jussi Nuorela	17. Ari Hjelm
89. Kaarlo Kankkunen

HJK		3-1	TPS		(2-1)		2 995
 5. Pasi Tauriainen	32. Marko Rajamaki (pen)
 7. Jari Vanhala
60. Ismo Lius

Jaro		2-2	FC Jazz		(2-1)		2 666
40. Aleksei Jeremenko	43. Luis Antonio
45. Ari Kumpuniemi	53. Antonio

KuPS		1-3	FC Oulu		(1-2)		1 817
28. Harri Ylonen	19. Sami Vaisanen
			40. Vesa Tauriainen
			88. Wieslaw Wraga

FC Kuusysi	3-1	RoPS		(1-1)		1 534
15. Sami Vehkakoski	44. Tero Forss
60. Jari Kinnunen
82. Juha Annunen (pen)

MP		0-2	MyPa		(0-1)		1 515
			 3. Jari Litmanen
			82. Litmanen


Table:
                             GP    W   T   L    GF     GA     PTS

 1.  FC Jazz (Pori)          18   11   5   2    33     19      38
 2.  FC Kuusysi (Lahti)      18   10   2   6    30     19      32
 3.  HJK (Helsinki)          18   10   2   6    35     25      32
 4.  MyPa (Myllykoski)       18    7   7   4    28     15      28
 5.  TPS (Turku)             18    7   5   6    21     16      26
 6.  Jaro (Pietarsaari)      18    7   4   7    23     22      25
 7.  FC Haka (Valkeakoski)   18    7   4   7    17     21      25
 8.  FC Ilves (Tampere)      18    7   3   8    26     25      24
 9.  RoPS (Rovaniemi)        18    6   3   9    21     29      21
10.  FC Oulu                 18    5   3  10    21     35      18
----------------------------------------------------------------------
11.  MP (Mikkeli)            18    5   2  11    14     30      17
======================================================================
12.  KuPS (Kuopio)           18    4   4  10    18     31      16


Top goalscorers:

17: Ismo Lius (HJK)
12: Luis Antonio (FC Jazz)
 9: Jukka Turunen (MyPa) and Ari Hjelm (FC Ilves)
 8: Kimmo Tarkkio (FC Kuusysi)
 7: Saku Laaksonen (FC Jazz), Jari Litmanen (MyPa)
    and Marko Rajamaki (TPS)
 6: Paul Lindholm (Jaro), Michael Belfield (FC Kuusysi),
    and Gyorgy Kajdy (TPS)


	Next matches 26th July: FC Haka-FC Jazz, Jaro-HJK, KuPS-FC Ilves,
				MP-FC Kuusysi, RoPS-FC Oulu, TPS-MyPa

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From: kencham@ulysses.cs.umn.edu (Deepak)
Subject: Help !! What are the new rules ?
Followup-To: rec.sport.soccer
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:00:09 GMT

Hi Folks,

Being in the US is real curse when it comes to affairs of foo..(oops ! Soccer). So, please forgive my ignorance about the new rules ........

Could someone explain what the new set of rules are ? Are they FIFA approved or are they just IOC approved ?

Thanks for the patience ;->

Deepak
PS: WHY(!), WHY(!), did we have to waste WC '94 on the US ? :~(
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: louis@aie.nl (Louis Kossen)
Subject: Re: Olympic Soccer--Standings
Organization: AI Engineering BV, Amsterdam, Netherlands
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 08:18:29 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.185613.25463@daimi.aau.dk> rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen) writes:
>csfraw@kullero.uta.fi (Francis Akoto) writes:
>
>>Critics of the new Fifa rule should watch these games. These rules work and
>>they make football more interesting.
>
>I disagree, but let us discuss something else.
>
>>Pool B             W   L   T    GF   GA    PTS.   Diff.
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> Spain              2   0   0     6    0     4      +6  (Through to next round)
>> Qatar              1   0   1     2    1     3      +1  (very likely)
>> Colombia           0   1   1     1    5     1      -4
>> Egypt              0   2   0     0    3     0      -3
>> 
>
>I am very pleased to see that the Olympic tournament has finally gotten
>rid of Egypt. After their Italy '90 performance I had no wish to see
>them again. Surprisingly good results from Qatar. Maybe I sign that
>Asian football is better than the last couple of world cups has shown.

The team of Qatar always does quite well in qualification rounds and 
I remenber they won the youth world championship about 8 years ago. 


louis kossen
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From: asim@pak.sps.mot.com (Asim Omair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: British Soocer on TV
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:52:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Motorola Inc.  Austin, Tx.

I was going through this weeks TV listing and saw that they are going to show 
the Scottish Cup Final late tuesday night, at 2:00 a.m. (i.e. early Wednesday
morning) and after that they are going to show one hour of English soccer. These
programs are on Prime Network (here in Austin, the channel is called HSE).
I am quite sure that they will show the highlights of the past English season,
which they showed a couple of weeks back, and I suggest everybody to set their
video tapes.
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From: mikec@unixg.ubc.ca (Michael Cherkassoff)
Subject: Re: An European Superleague Scheme
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:02:48 GMT

Hi!

This is an interesting scheme, but I didn't understand how
the equal number of teams in each division could be maintained.
E.g. what if all three teams relegated from the first division
should go to the same second (so 5 teams from this second go
to third while only three are being promoted) ?

Michael.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: ccziec@vax.nott.ac.uk (Stuart Pearce's left foot)
Subject: Re: English Transfers
Reply-To: ccziec@vax.nott.ac.uk (Stuart Pearce's left foot)
Organization: University of Nottingham, UK
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 01:54:31 BST

In article <6257@falcon.ukc.ac.uk>, irp@ukc.ac.uk (I.R.Pletcher) writes:
>OK Transfers which I know have gone through are as follows

>David James, Watford to Liverpool, 1.5million.
>John Jensen, Danish club - Arsenal, fee unknown.
>Darren Anderton, Portsmouth to Spurs, 1.7million.
>Jason Cundy, Chelsea to Spurs, 350,000
>Neil Ruddock, Southampton to Spurs, 700,000
>Peter Beadle, Gillingham to Spurs, 350,000
>Dean Austin, Southend - Spurs, 400,000
>Kerry Dixon, Chelsea - Southampton, 575,000
>Chris Waddle, Marseille to Sheff Wednesday, 1.5million
>John Beresford, Portsmouth to Newcastle, 750,000
>Dean Holdsworth, Brentford to Wimbledon, 1million + players

I can add 
Barry Venison Liverpool to Newcastle, 250,000
David Lowe Ipswich to Leicester 200,000 (+ 50,000 after so many appearances)
Kevin 'Rooster' Russell Leicester to Stoke 200,000 
Darren Wassall Forest to Derby 600,000 (+ 50,000 if Derby get promotion)
and finally 
Ray McKinnon Dundee Utd to Forest, 750,000

Any Dundee Utd fans out there?, anyone know if he's any good. He looks like
another dwarf for our team, even Scott Gemmill looks like Mr Universe
next to him. I heard he got sent home from the Scottish under-21 end
of season tour, for being 'socially relaxed' on his 21st birthday.
If so it appears that Terry Wilson will have a new boozing buddy :-)

Cheers - Ian 

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From: kfolan@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk (Kevin Folan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: RE: FIFA Goalkeeper restriction
Date: 21 Jul 92 08:08:15 GMT
Reply-To: kfolan@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom Labs

From article <9207202302.AA09681@netmail.microsoft.com>, by t-frans@microsoft.com (Francis Stanisci):
> FIFA Circular Text :
> 
> 	"On any occasion when a player deliberately kicks the ball to his own
> 	goalkeeper, the goalkeeper is not permitted to touch it with his
> 	hands. If, however, the goalkeeper does touch the ball with his hands,
> 	he shall be penalized by the award of an indirect free kick to be
> 	taken by the opposing team from the place where the infringement
> 	occurred, subject to the overiding conditions of Law XIII."
> 
> The Board wishes to add the following explanations :
> ...deleted

> Response:
> So we're to assume that ID-free-kicks could be taken *inside* the penalty box?
> 

But thats always been the case eg for dangerous play.

Kevin Folan  BT Software Technology			Tel: 0473 645692
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