HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: csokolo@eis.calstate.edu (Christopher Sokolov)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Booting from System 7 file server?
Date: 8 Jan 93 22:54:04 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

oususawm@Msu.oscs.montana.edu (Mark Wistey) writes:
> I'm using a Mac Classic with System 7.0.1 as a hard drive for my 
> Apple IIgs...  It's wonderful, but I can't startup from the Mac.
> My question: Is it possible to directly boot a IIgs from a System 7 
> Mac (boot from slot 7)?  If not, is there some other way I can use
> the Mac as my System disk?  I ran the File Server Setup from the IIgs
> Installer and tried starting the IIgs with a "Local network startup 
> disk" created by the Installer.

I haven't really explored this at length, but the one time I did, it
didn't work.

> When I tried to log into the server 
> as a regular user or guest, the IIgs responded: "Contact the network 
> administrator.  An unknown system error occurred."  When I tried to 
> log in as the Mac owner, the IIgs reported: "Your startup 
> configuration has not been set up properly.  Contact the network 
> administrator."  

This probably means that you haven't set up the Mac side of things
properly (see below)
  
> My systems: a ROM 01 "Woz" IIgs with 1 Meg RAM, no hard drive, System
> 6.0, one 3.5" and one 5.25" floppy, connected via serial cable to a 
> Mac Classic, System 7.0.1 (with Tuneup), 40Mb hard drive, 4Mb RAM.  
> AppleTalk is enabled on both machines.  Every IIgs folder on the Mac,
> including the hard drive itself, has been set to allow sharing.

If you are the only one who is going to be using the machines, just set
the sharing for the Mac hard drive icon and "all folders enclosed".  Make
sure you set up all the options so that the networkee ( :)  can do them.

I once talked to an Apple employee who came out to a school where I had a
similar setup.  He said that while Apple had heard of people using serial
cables for networking, he didn't recommend it.  I don't think I would
either, but it does work.
  
> (For those of you who don't have a hard drive or who transfer a lot of
> IIgs files through a Mac, you should still try this.  Even if you 
> can't boot from your Mac's hard drive, it's still cheaper than buying 
> a separate hard drive for your IIgs!)
>  
On ftp.apple.com there is an archive called AppleShare Apple II Setup. 
Try that, and let us know how it goes.

-Christopher Sokolov
-csokolo@eis.calstate.edu
From: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Wanted:  Info on comm. software & IIe mouse
Date: 7 Jan 1993 06:50:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


The best terminal program for the //e is ProTERM. It must be an enhanced 128k
machine though. The mouse should be able to be gotten mail order. Get one of
the // magazines.

Steven Lichter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.next.misc
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: GS+AFP Unix server
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:14:39 GMT

I have several mac's and a GS connected via Localtalk to a ci which is
running Apple's Internet Router and is Ethertalked to a NeXT Cube which is
running IPT's uShare AFP server, as a task. 
 
I can mount the NeXT volume on the GS desktop, move files back and forth and
print to the NeXT printer without any problems.[ Same with a 486 which is also
on Localtalk.].
 
There seems to be 2 problems though, also shared by the PC, but not by the 
Mac's.
 
(1) Moving a GS file to the server causes it to lose it file type and
creator (this is not the case with Mac files from a Mac).
 
(2) Logging off the server (either by dragging the volume to the garbage can
    or OA-Y) hangs the GS. This problem also occurs with the PC using Windows'
    based software (specifically Copstalk and Farallon's sw).
 
The file type/creator issue seems to be similar to one that happens with CAP.
Does anyone have a fix for this (Todd?)? The logging off problem is different
though. Could this be a funtion of the Internet Software router that I am 
using (may not be the most recent). Any clues would be much appreciated. The
speed with which one can print to the NeXT laser 
is impressive using uShare/uPrint, but the logging off issue is really
a pain. On the PC it completely hangs the system to the point of requiring a
hard reset.
 
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
From: jpenne@ee.ualberta.ca (Jerry Penner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Coop. vs preemptive multitasking
Date: 11 Jan 93 06:03:43 GMT
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada

toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes:

>bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:

>>  Try copying files over an AppleTalk connection; try formatting a 
>>floppy disk.  Any time a Mac or IIgs does a disk access or otherwise
>>takes its attention away from the serial ports, it will lose data
>>big-time.

>Actually on the Mac this still works because of a lot of low-level hacking
>to keep polling the serial ports no matter what. When you have a lot of
>built-in hardware, this not such a bad idea because you can make it work.
>However, it is virtually impossible when you use a truly modular device
>system (like GS/OS does) -- which is vastly superior for everything else.

>The real solution is to do what the IIfx did and have real coprocessors
>on the I/O so you don't even _have_ these interrupt blackouts, since the
>main CPU is not the one working with the floppy or the serial ports.

That works, but you don't even have to go that far.  Simply providing
a multi-channel DMA controller would be sufficient.  The SCC (8530)
chip used by the GS and Macs provides direct support for DMA.  A
separate disk controller processor would be nice though since Apple's
software-controlled floppy systems eat CPU time.  The Mac could have
been designed with DMA in mind; the Apple II design would have been
rather hard to change by the time DMA controllers were cheap enough.
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas)
Subject: Re: Out of this World
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:14:23 GMT

In article <6JAN199306055009@vax2.concordia.ca> spector@vax2.concordia.ca (Mitch
ell Spector) writes:
>>BTW, is Out of This World really slow on an unzipped IIgs
>>at 2.8 MHz? It's probably slow at "full screen", but what about in "TV size"?

   While its not a speed-demon, the GS version is very capable in both
TV (1/2 height, 1/2 width) and 70mm (1/2 height, full width) sizes.
Personally, I prefer the 70mm mode, and the keyboard controls seem finer
than the joystick.

In article <1993Jan6.144949.9800@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dstarr@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dwight Starr) writes:
>What gun?  

The gun is found on the "second level" so to speak, after you have been
captured...

>the joystick or keyboard.  Is there a way to do the old adventure game
>look, get, inventory etc.???   

Nope.  With amplified speakers, this game really makes you feel like
part of the 'movie', since it is more of an arcade adventure instead
of a strategy adventure.

>I got a walkthru from someone (sorry I don't have his name here) that says
>to kill the little creatures in the second and third screens.  How?  

?  I dunno, I just ran and jumped over them.  Pretty easy once you get
the timing down.

>I am using an unZIPped, rom 1 with no hard drive. Just booting from floppies.
>The speed in TV size is believable.  The guy sort of strolls across the screen.

During most of the game, (using the keyboard) I just held down the CONTROL
key to run around for the most part.  The game goes much faster, and you
can jump a bit further [while running].  You can also get a little bit
better response during the game by pressing 'M' to turn the music off.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mkheintz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Michael Heintz)
Subject: Re: archived files with .F suffix?
Keywords: .F archive
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:49:56 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.204658.22794@cs.UAlberta.CA> glyn@cs.UAlberta.CA (Reade Glyn Devin) writes:
>Does anyone know what file compression program (apple //) uses
>the .F suffix?  I don't have it in my FAQ.

The compression program is called "Freeze"

>Where is the program available (preferably by ftp)?

It's available at pindarus.cs.uiuc.edu in the /pub/apple2/gno subdirectory.
As you can probably guess... Freeze works under GNO.  I don't know if it
works under the ORCA shell.

However, I have used Freeze with GNO and I have noticed increased compression
as opposed to Compress.  However, I stick with compress since we have it on
my school account and it works on both.

	Good luck,
		...Mike
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: gwlester@cpu.com (Gerald W. Lester)
Subject: Re:  kermit3.87
Organization: Computerized Processes Unlimited, Metairie, LA, (504)-889-2784
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:47:40 GMT
Reply-To: gwlester@cpu.com

In article <9301051444.AA08255@apple.com>, JDA@CU.NIH.GOV ("Doug Ashbrook") writes:
>
>The official repository for all versions of Kermit is Columbia
>University (WATSUN.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU). In October, I became the "owner"
>of Kermit for the Apple II.  I am in the process of getting version
>3.88 ready for distribution. 

	Is either version a 17 bit application (i.e. ProDos-16 aka GS/OS)?
From: marc@cxr_rs6000.med.ge.com (Marc Wolfgram)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Switch-It! Press Release, Number 2
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:44:47 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Jawaid defends:
>marc@cxr_rs6000.med.ge.com (Marc Wolfgram) writes:
>>Jawaid spews:
>>.... with the unadulterated design genius of Procyon :-) ...
>>c'mon Jawaid, it's still morning here, and this is getting awful sticky - I
>>haven't had time to finish my first coffee, and  get to read this stuff.  If
>>I didn't know you, I _might_ think you were a tad egotistical... then again
>>I might anyway :)
>  Hey, Marc, c'mon... there was a smiley up there!

There was a smiley on mine too!

Marc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: richard@serss0 (Richard A Simm)
Subject: backup software
Organization: Florida International University, Miami
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:31:49 GMT

Do any of the backup programs available back up a partition on the hard drive
that is *not* recognized by GS/OS (i.e. not DOS, Pascal, ProDOS, HFS)? What
I want is a block-level backup utility that will recognize a SCSI partition
is available and not try to do anything else with the partition.

Albert	richard@serss0.fiu.edu
  Genesys for sale ... $25
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: is the ensoniq socketed?
Date: 11 Jan 1993 04:43:45 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd) writes:

>On a ROM 01 IIGS, the Ensoniq 5503 DOC is located under the power supply.
>I can't remember if it's socketed or not.  It's a largish square chip.

Yaah! No no no. You are thinking of the VGC, the SHR graphics chip. The DOC is
located next to the memory expansion slot and is a 40-pinnish DIP in a socket.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: cust_ts@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tero Sand)
Subject: Re: GS Line Fill
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 13:02:47 GMT

In article <19424@mindlink.bc.ca> Clayten_Hamacher@mindlink.bc.ca (Clayten Hamacher) writes:
>I had a maze program a while back which would draw a 15x10 (roughly) maze and
>then you would walk through it in 3-d.. The games used Line Fill for the
>graphics and so was blazing fast..
>
>There was also an autosolve mode which ran along the left wall until it
>escaped. This mode could be toggled on and off in the middle of a game.
>
>If anyone recognizes this game, can they please SHK, then compress and
>uuencode and mail it to me. Thanks.
>
>
>P.S. Yes, it is freeware (or Shareware at the very least).

Better yet, post it to c.b.a2.

	Tero Sand
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   "I feel most ministers who claim they've heard God's voice are eating
too much pizza before they go to bed at night, and it's really an 
intestinal disorder, not a revelation." - Reverend Jerry Falwell
From: VBCSC038@VAX.CSUN.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: S16/Orca C
Date: 4 Jan 1993 05:42:01 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

	I have a question.. Why is it that if I compile a shell version of my
QWK reader, and run it as a EXE file, everything is beautiful.  I then change
it to S16 and boom.. program runs ok but the output is seriously screwed... the
headers and the message bodies are outputted somewhat and it looks like seirous
line noise to me...  The output also consists of many crtl-gs that I had no
problems supressing in the EXE version.  Do I have to startup the Tools, use
the tools or what?  This program is a text only program though..

Brenden


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From: jimmys@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Subject: Re: New Paintworks $C2 Animations
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Reply-To: jimmys@ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 5 Jan 93 00:14:19 GMT

In article <1iahr0INN8a6@mirror.digex.com> kmccorm@access.digex.com (Kevin McCormick) writes:

>You've whet our appetites... why not go ahead and upload it?  I think there's
>enough people out there that have enough memory and are interested.
>

Okay, Canyon.SHOW.SHK just went up to cco.caltech.edu, again under the
/pub/apple2/uploads directory.

Richard A Simm suggested that I BINSCII the Canyon.SHK, and break it
off into segments that will fit on multiple 800K disks.  Okay, sounds
good to me, this will be done later tonight.  (Luckily for me, school
doesn't start for another week :-)

>
>--
>Kevin McCormick                           | "The more we try to control, the
>kmccorm@access.digex.com                  |  less we are really in control."
>IRC: Xenophon                             |        - Robert J. Oppenheimer

Jimmy


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From: cust_ts@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tero Sand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Elite GS (was Re: Spy Hunter GS???)
Date: 9 Jan 93 09:34:43 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <2B4DB24D.24415@ics.uci.edu> jimmys@ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw) writes:
>But Elite becomes pointless after awhile, after you get all the extra-
>equipments for your Cobra Mark IV, the game becomes boring...
 
True. The game needs to be more plot-driven, or the enemies need to be
more ferocious/numerous, or both.
 
        Tero Sand

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intestinal disorder, not a revelation." - Reverend Jerry Falwell
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
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From: radracer@pro-amber.cts.com (Chantha Lueung)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Program to transfer files between Apple IIGS and IBM DOS c
Organization: ProLine [pro-amber] -- Spring Valley, Ca
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 05:07:53 PST

tamela, this is a problem that can easily be cured.

If its just text you can via modem, just transfer the files between modems

chantha (radracer)

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Internet: radracer@pro-amber.cts.com
UUCP:     crash!pro-amber!radracer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: Switch-It! Press Release, Number 2
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:22:31 GMT

marc@cxr_rs6000.med.ge.com (Marc Wolfgram) writes:

>Jawaid spews:
>.... with the unadulterated design genius of Procyon :-) ...

>c'mon Jawaid, it's still morning here, and this is getting awful sticky - I
>haven't had time to finish my first coffee, and  get to read this stuff.  If
>I didn't know you, I _might_ think you were a tad egotistical... then again
>I might anyway :)

  Hey, Marc, c'mon... there was a smiley up there!

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 Procyon, Inc.              |   for the Apple IIgs!   
 bazyar@cs.uiuc.edu         |   P.O Box 620334
 --Apple II Forever!--      |   Littleton, CO 80162-0334   (303) 933-4649
From: epatter@willamette.edu (Eric Patterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Apple II Books/Manuals for sale
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:27:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: willamet.C0rA1I.B74
Organization: Willamette University, Salem OR

Manuals and Books for sale:
 
 o Apple //e Extended 80-Column Card Manual (2)
    - This is for the card with an extra 64K of memory.
 o Orca/C
 o Orca/Dissasembler
Software and Hardware not included with above.
 
 o DOS 3.3 System Pack
     - DOS 3.3 System Master disks
     - Original Apple II DOS 3.3 Maual
     - DOS User's Manual (newer //e version)
     - DOS Programmer's Manual & Reference Card
 
 o ProDOS User's Kit
     - ProDOS Master Disk
     - ProDOS User's Manual
     - BASIC Programming with ProDOS
     - BASIC Examples Disk v1.1
 
 o Applesoft Pack
     - Applesoft Tutorial
     - Applesoft Sampler Disk (goes with Tutorial)
     - Applesoft Programmers Reference, vol. 1 & 2; with reference card
 
 o Technical Reference Manual for the //e
 o Monitor ROM listings for the //e
 
 o 32 BASIC Programs for the Apple
 o Apple Machine Language (Inman & Inman)
 o Assembly Lines:  The Book (In excellent condition)
 o Using AppleWorks GS
 
Send me your offer, all (serious) offers considered. You pay shipping.
 
Send email to EricP23 on AOL, or epatter@willamette.edu on Internet.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: cust_ts@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tero Sand)
Subject: Re: Bill Budge
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:43:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.221536.5322@freenet.carleton.ca> aa382@Freenet.carleton.ca (Marc Sira) writes:
>Actually, I did convert Raster Blaster and Tranquility Base to run from
>ProDOS on the GS. Didn't take much for RB, though I added an option to
>switch the flipper buttons so that the option/apple keys make sense. TB
>required some messing with Alternate Display Mode, so it runs less than
>perfectly.
>
>Since they're now publicly owned, I can post these two to cba2 if anyone
>is interested.

I am.

	Tero Sand
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   "I feel most ministers who claim they've heard God's voice are eating
too much pizza before they go to bed at night, and it's really an 
intestinal disorder, not a revelation." - Reverend Jerry Falwell
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz)
Subject: Program idea?
Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 04:41:15 GMT

Here's an idea I've been mulling over lately and since I'm
not an advanced programmer I could not do this myself nor do
I even know if it is feasible.

Here it goes:

I have an accelerator on my GS and for certain games it would
be nice if the computer would "automatically" slow down to the 
desired speed and when the game is finished the computer could
"resume" normal speed.  So, I was thinking along the lines of a
file which you could double click on and it would do the following:

1. Slow down your accelerator to a set speed.
2. Launch your program.
   (perhaps the icon which you double click on could be a "parameter"
    file for some sort of mini-launcher application)
3. After exiting your "game program" return the system speed to the
   speed it was at prior to launching your program.

The parameter file could contain:
- the speed to run the application at.
- the pathname of the application to launch
- the icon to use to represent the file
  (so it would still look like your "game's" icon)
- probably alot more!

In fact, if I haven't completely missed the boat here ( I'm sure I
will be told if I have! :) ) this could perhaps be the making of a
crude alias file for the IIgs. ...well maybe I'm pushing it here.

Anyway, what do you think?

Paul Schultz
schultp@wl.com

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: johnmac@fawlty.towers.oz.au (John MacLean)
Subject: Re: SHR converted to New Print Shop
Reply-To: johnmac@fawlty.towers.oz.au (John MacLean)
Organization: Tower Technology, Sydney
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:02:17 GMT

In article <1i89u7INN16r@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cb408@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Reames) writes:
>Is it possible to convert an SHR (either 320 or 640) to a filetype that
>could be accessed by the panel graphic editor for the Print Shop Companion?
>I have an older version of the Graphic Exchange by Roger Wagner, but that
>won't do the trick.  Thanks for your help!
>Ron Reames

The Graphic Exchange does have additional toolsets for Print Shop panels.
There are at least 3 types of panels, I think:

- mono panels
- color panels
- Print Shop GS panels

There may even be another format with Print Shop 3 (The "new" print shop).
I know I wrote toolsets for some of these, but don't remember which ones.
Speak to Roger Wagner Publishing for details.

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From: wsheffield@pro-ace.cts.com (Wayne Sheffield)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: GSOS Installer
Date: 8 Jan 93 02:01:54 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ProLine [pro-ace]


        I am interested in putting the Installer on the pd/shareware disks
that our club distributes.  Can anyone give me the information that I need
to do to properly do this?  (and to create the script files)  Thanks very
much!

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