HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K. Goyal)
Subject: Re: 486 vs. 386
Keywords: prices
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 07:27:49 GMT

>Anyone got any suggestions on what prices are going to do over the
>next 6 months to a year?

Until AMD(or another company, AMD is simply the most likely) comes out with
a 486DX clone that is 100% i486DX compatible(or backward compatible if the
new chip is better. (ie-386DX-40)) 486 prices will stay constant.

As it is right now, Intel is having a little trouble keeping up with the 
demand for 486 chips.

Until a true 486 clone is made, Intel has no reason to significantly lower
the price of 486DX chips.

I expect that very soon, Intel will lower the price of 486SX chips so that
it would be silly to buy a 386DX or SX.

AMD is most likely going to get its 486 clones out 2Q93, and the 586 will
have been out for a few months by then.  I figure 486 prices will fall
much, and 586 prices will too, though they will still remain relatively
high.

A few months after AMD gets its 486 clones to the market, 386's will become
a dead market, like 286's today.  Low-power 486 chips will be out, and 486SX
chips and others less-powerful 486 chips will be priced so low as to make
buying or even selling a 386 pointless.

I'm just curious as to when/what chips other companies will make for
Overdrive sockets.  I think that is becoming a nice market.  WIth all
the various chips around...it's only a matter of time before companies
figure out how to clone an Overdrive chip, and begin offering other chips
besides Intels for that socket.  I figure these will start appearing in the
1st half of 1993.

whew...man, all these predictions of mine are not far into the future at
all...a little of 6 months.
From: daver@ECE.ORST.EDU (Dave Rabinowitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: pcanywhere - vt100 keycodes?
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:30:41 GMT
Distribution: us
Organization: ECE Dept.,OSU,Corvallis

I'm trying to access a pcanywhere system using a vt100 emulator.  After I tell
pcanywhere (version 3) that I'm using a vt100 it doesn't recognize function
keys (arrows, page up/down, etc.).  I know the emulator is sending out the
correct vt100 codes since it works with other programs.  Does anyone know what
keycodes pcanywhere expects for the function keys when it has been told that
it's talking to a vt100?  Is there another newsgroup I should be using?

Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: chang hsu liu <cliu@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: toolbook<=>laserdisc player
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:53:44 GMT

Dear netters,

	I am trying to use a toolbook file "video clipmaker" to play Pioneer
4400 LD player. I get the message "Please check that the videodisc player is
attached and powered on and that the disc is inserted [2]" I am sure I have
it connected right (it worked in another machine I tried before), and every
thing is on. I wonder do I need some files in order to control Pioneer 4400?
My setup:
IBM P/S 2 Model 80 with M-Motion video and M-Motion audio.
serial port <====> RS-232C of LD player
M-Motion video V1 <====> video out of LD player

Thanks in advance.

Peter Liu
cliu@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
From: sjsobol@wariat.org (Steven J. Sobol)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Procedure for UPLOADING TO Simtel20
Date: 8 Nov 92 04:59:15 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: APK Public Access UNIX/Internet, Cleveland, OH, USA

how do you go about uploading to Simtel20?

thanks, please reply via e-mail.

** steve **
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From: joel@upchrch.UUCP (Joel Upchurch  )
Newsgroups: comp.ms-windows.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: PC Tools 8.0 vs. Windows 3.1???
Keywords: PC Tools 8.0 RAMboost
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 14:13:37 EST
Organization: Upchurch Computer Consulting, Orlando FL

todd@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Todd Ogasawara) writes:

> I received my Central Point PC Tool 8.0 upgrade last week. Has anyone else
> noticed problem with the new RAMboost feature of the package? I decided to
> give it a try since the documentation claimed it did a better job than
> OPTIMIZE when used with QEMM-386 (6.01). After installing RAMboost I
> noticed that I had 10K *less* base RAM and that a number of applications
> failed when run in Windows 386-enhanced mode.
> 
> Does anyone know if PC-Cache 8.0 works better with Windows 3.1 than SMARTDRV?
> Is it safe to use? :-)

I've used PC-Tools for several years and my rule of thumb is never
install a PC-Tools release that ends in zero if you can help it. Order
the upgrade, and put it on the shelf for a couple of months until the
bug fix release comes out, then install that. Major PC-Tools releases
always has serious bugs, but CPS does fix them, so a bit of patience is
indicated. If you can't wait, try to avoid using major new features,
since they usually have the worst bugs.

Please note that I do buy the upgrades and use them, once they've been
fixed. I'm not trying to trash PC-Tools, since I think it provides good
value for the money.

(If your mail bounces use the address below.)
Joel Upchurch/Upchurch Computer Consulting/718 Galsworthy/Orlando, FL 32809
joel@peora.ccur.com {uiucuxc,hoptoad,petsd,ucf-cs}!peora!joel (407) 859-0982
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: bsteinke@dsd.es.com (Bruce Steinke)
Subject: Re: RCS ported to DOS?
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Keywords: RCS source code
Reply-To: bsteinke@dsd.es.com (Bruce Steinke)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 20:43:23 GMT

In article <BxGKLr.GAo@cup.hp.com>, runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan) writes:
|> Mark Runyan (runyan@cup.hp.com) wrote:
|> : Ralph Finch (rfinch@water.ca.gov) wrote:
|> : : Does anybody know if RCS has been ported to DOS?
[stuff deleted...]

Just today, I saw the first 3 parts (of 9) posted to comp.binaries.ibm.pc for
RCS. From the header of part 1:

   From: cbip@cs.ulowell.edu (CBIP Moderator)
   Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc
   Subject: v20i072: rcs56dos.zoo, RCS 5.6 for DOS (part 01/09)
   Date: 9 Nov 92 15:56:35 GMT
   Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science

   Checksum: 3594573733  (Verify with "brik -cv")
   X-Submissions-to: cbip@cs.ulowell.edu
   X-Questions-to: cbip-request@cs.ulowell.edu
   Submitted-by: Frank Whaley <few@well.sf.ca.us>
   Posting-number: Volume 20, Issue 072
   Archive-name: rcs56dos/part01

   { RCS is Revision Control System, which maintains file versions for software
   development and engineering - Doc }

   This package contains binaries and manual pages for the current release 
   of RCS 5.6 (5.6.4 beta).  No further DOS-related changes are expected 
   for release 5.6.

-Bruce

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  bsteinke@dsd.es.com               |  need a good piece of rope."
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  Salt Lake City, Utah              |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: jav2d@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Jason Adams Vanvalkenburgh)
Subject: Re: help!! MFM -> IDE
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 01:35:43 GMT

The card (IDE) costs very little, only about $20 for a cheap
card from taiwan.  The advantage is that the card is NOT a 
hard disk controller - it is an interface card.

The hard disk controllder is "embedded" in the hard drive electronics.
The disk is low-level formatted at the factory, so you won't have to worry
about that stuff (remembering bad areas, etc).  With the controller built
in, the drive/card arrangement is much more reliable.

I don't know if this goes for all MFM drives, but the MFM drive I used
to have required special device drivers for different partitions.  I also
had to use proprietary software for low level formatting and the like.
All the IDE drive needs is the proper settings in the CMOS setup, and you're
off!

This may be unrelated, but my several Seagate MFM drives were tempermental:
sometimes they'd work and sometimes they wouldn't.  Their IDE replacements
(Seagate as well) have performed flawlessly, even under MORE strenuous
environments.

-jason vanValkenburgh
jav2d@virginia.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: kkt@philabs.philips.com (Kim-Kiat Tan)
Subject: Re: 486 vs. 386
Keywords: prices          
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff, New York
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:13:21 GMT

In article <BxFpHv.8zB@news.orst.edu> schottd@ucs.orst.edu (Derek Schott) writes:
>>
>>I hope the 586 comes out soon so I can get my 486/DX2-66 at a lower price :)
>>---------------------------------------------------------
>> Louis J. Giliberto, Jr.   ! magus@drktowr.chi.il.us
>>   -sysadmin drktowr       ! lgilibe@orion.it.luc.edu
>>  Chicago, IL  USA         ! 
>>---------------------------------------------------------
>
>Anyone got any suggestions on what prices are going to do over the
>next 6 months to a year?
>
>=============================================================================
>* Derek Schott                                Mail:schottd@ucs.orst.edu     *
>* Department of Public Safety/OSP             Corvallis OR OSU              *
>=============================================================================

	My feeling is that 586 will not cut into 486 too much, mostly big 
corporation or people with big bucks are going to buy 586, 486 will still be 
for the mass market. I will say if you can use the computer now, buy it now, th
price is good at the moment. Let's say in 6 months to a yr., the price drop 
another 100 or 200, considered you the price diff. as the rental for using your
computer for 6 to 12 months. NO one can predict exactly how much it's going to
drop (of course the EXPERT will disagree).

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: joe@morton.rain.com (Joe Moss)
Subject: Re: PC Tools 8.0-No Windows apps!
Organization: Morton & Associates, Inc.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:20:15 GMT

pmacfar@eis.calstate.edu (Paul MacFarlane) writes:

>rick@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu (Richard M. Warner) writes:
>> 
>> I received two upgrade notices for PCT.  Both EXPLICITLY stated that this
>> was a DOS only upgrade and that there would be no more Windows support in
>> PCT for DOS.  Get out your upgrade notice and read it again.  You will see
>> it there in black and brown (bad color combo).  Your failure to fully
>> read and comprehend the upgrade off is not shabby "treatment" by Central
>> Point.
>> 
>I had just read this, and then, while clearing out my pile of last month's
>junk mail, I ran across the single upgrade notice that I received. 
>Although the product IS titled "for DOS" it is not so titled on the page
>where you actually send in your order.  I haven't been able to find any
>place on my notice where it mentions that the windows applets would not be
>included, nor that they explicitly would not be supported in the future.
[...]

Yes the picture on the front is of a box that reads "Central Point
PC TOOLS for DOS" and the title above the box says "How Many Reasons
are There to Upgrade to New PC Tools Version 8 for DOS?" and then
the order form says "I'm Ready to Upgrade to PC Tools Version 8 for
Just $69.95" - no mention of *DOS* there.

*HOWEVER* on the *back* of the order form across from the "No Postage
Necessary if ...." stuff it states:


		Special Note: Version 8 is designed
		      for DOS environments.

	     Version 8 was designed to be a DOS only
	product.  Please note that Windows applications
	contained in Version 7 have not been updated to
	Version 8.  To be kept up-to-date on our future
	Windows products, please check the Windows
	information box on the order form.


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From: simmons5275@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Solid State Disk Drive
Date: 12 Nov 92 10:37:06 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

I recently was reading about a solid state disk drive composed of
banks of sram from one of the 1990 issues of radio electronics. I like
the idea but the card that they had could only handle 512k. How 
possible would It be to create the same idea, ie. ram backed up with
battery for when the sys is off and set up like a disk drive with the 
driver software, for 16-->who knows megabytes. Seems to me you could take
a jdr microdevices 16 meg card that uses simms, and add some batery
circuitry and write a driver for the drive. If this is possible I 
would be very interested in it. Just think of how lightning quick
that sucker would be. Almost the ideal place to install windows. I am 
aware of current ramdisk software but it cant save on power down so it
doesnt really interest me. I would be leaving my comp on most of the
time anyway but if th power went out Id hate to have to reinstall everything
again. Therefore the only logical solutin to me is a 32 meg solid state 
disk drive. If anyone has info on either the existence or the feasibility 
of this please let me know asap.

Rob

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K. Goyal)
Subject: Can software be 486-specific?
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 05:54:16 GMT

Hello.

I have heard/read that Windows NT & NeXTSTEP 486 will *require* 486 chips.

Is this possible?

If so, does it apply to 486DX or DX & SX?

Is it really possible to write software that will run on a 486SX that
will not run on a 386DX(or SX)?

That seems silly, since a 386DX-40 performs about 95% of a 486SX-25.
(ie-no real world difference) and since 386-40's are selling like
hotcakes, & mathco's are cheap, it would seem silly to exclude this
market, the whole 386 market in fact, from you product.

Thanks.
From: jleon@usc.edu (Juan Carlos Leon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: MODEDIT 3.0 now available (shareware?)
Date: 9 Nov 1992 19:31:40 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu

In article <BxH408.DDs@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> rjm@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Ryan Mitchell) writes:
>Sorry to be complaining to what seems to be a fine person, but
>it has to be said:
>
>Norman,
>
>ModEdit 3.1 may very well be an excellent piece of
>software but I won't be purchasing it because it DOESN'T follow
>the shareware concept--it's crippleware.  In its downloadable 
>state I can't test it for anything but use as a MOD player and 
>I've seen several better as far as that goes.  The real-time
>recorder and piano-roll display are both disabled, which are
>the two fundamental selling points of the program.  I was really 
>excited to hear that there was going to be a functional recorder 
>out but I refuse to spend money on any "shareware" I can't test 
>first, simply because it goes against the very concept of shareware.
>This method, which is unfortunately used by many, many PC
>authors, is more of a "You-have-the-skeleton-program-but-must-pay-
>for-anything-useful" approach rather than shareware.
>
>Ryan

Well, I think Ryan has a good reason for thinking in this way.  The program
has now very nice features but the only one we can be aware is the piano roll
schemme.  Norman, I think you could get more registered users if you let them
test the whole program with all its features.  Of course you can, for example,
disable the save option, in this way people can test the software in its full
capacity and if they like it they'll have to register it to be able to save
their work.  It's just an idea, you can figure out another way to do it but
definitely disabling important features is not the way.

One more thing, in modedit 2.0 there were a part of the screen with the title
of the song been edited.  In 3.0 there's no title or filename and the only way
to be aware what I've just loaded is to play it or to look for it's title in
the menu.  This is not big deal but just an idea of what to add in the next
release.  Also, I think a metronome (using the pc speaker maybe) could be a
good help while doing real time recording.  Sorry for compare, but I like the
real time recording in Whacker Tracker but since there's no way how to track
the tempo/meter it's hard to recording on real time.

BTW, at first glance, i think this program is really good!

Juan Leon
From: rice@cray.com (Jonathan Rice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Parallel I/O hangs unless Windows has run (help?)
Summary: DOS hangs when printing; but ok if Win came first
Keywords: DOS 5.0, Windows 3.1, OL-400
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:09:57 GMT
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.


When I use my Okidata OL-400 page printer under Windows 3.1, everything works
fine.  I can print from any Windows application -- Ventura, MS Write, you
name it.

If I shut down Windows, a quick mem/c lets me see that Windows does not leave
any handy-dandy printer drivers hanging around.  Nevertheless, if I now print
from DOS -- copy abc.txt lpt1: -- everything still works just great (I do
need to supply a trailing FF to get the last page out, but that's no
trouble).

*BUT* ... if I just boot DOS, without running Windows at all, I can't print
beans.  Any attempt to write to lpt1 hangs solid; interrupts are ignored.
The "Data Present" message does not appear on the printer (it still shows "On
Line") and the green LED doesn't blink.  So there's nothing leaving the
parallel port at all.

The documentation mentions *no* required setup.  The connectivity test
Okidata recommends is to "turn on your computer and printer" and run a
three-line BASIC program.  Yes, I even stooped so low as to do that.  Hangs
in plain DOS.  Works fine if Windows has been started and stopped.  Works
fine if Windows is running.

What is Windows doing for me, and what traces does it leave behind after it
has been terminated?  If I knew that, I ought to be able to find some way to
duplicate the effect in DOS.  After three days of busy signals at Okidata's
tech support, I finally got through to a fellow who had no idea whatsoever.

Thanks in advance for any ideas you have to offer.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: timd@teal.csn.org (Tim Daniels)
Subject: offline reader for NEWS for a PC
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 07:51:31 GMT

I am looking for an offline NEWS reader for the IBM PC.
Has anyone ever heard of such a beast?
I have access to a system that allows me to use their RN
interactively (no uucp or slip) but I pay on a hourly basis.
What I would like to do is to download all the news from RN like .-$:s filename
does and then read them with this program. I've been told that this exists for the macintosh, but I can't seem to locate a program for the PC.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
From: robl@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Rob Laddish)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:49:14 GMT
Subject: Re: Gateway 2000 how to get thru?
Organization: Division of the month club
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc


I think it depnds on who gets your call. Some of their sales people seem
real slimey, some seem nice. I was able to get all my questions answered
via email. Try gatway@aol.com, it worked for me.

Rob
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From: jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris)
Subject: Re: Why does ctrl-P give "Write Fault Error ...
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:39:12 GMT

walls@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Gerald Walls) writes:

> dchivers@engr.UVic.CA writes:
>>merchant@cbnews.cb.att.com (shahrukh.s.merchant) writes:

>>> [Typing ^P causes screen output to echo to the printer]

>>>My questions:  What is ^P supposed to do?  Where is it documented?
>>>Why doesn't it abort?  How can I disable this function?  How can I
>>>turn it back on, should I decide that I do want to use it occasionally?

>>Apparently, ^P toggles a print capture state.  If you are connected to a
>>printer, everything typed will be echoed to the printer until ^P is hit
>>again. I can't find any documentation for this in any DOS references
>>that I've looked at. I'm not sure how to disable it but a second ^P
>>will end it.

>I don't think it's a DOS functions.  I believe it is built into
>the BIOS.

Once it may have been in BIOS but no more.  If I can find it I'll look at
the BIOS source for the original 1981 PC to check on this.

Originally the echo-to-printer function was toggled by CTRL-PrtSc, but
that seems to have disappeared sometime in the distant past.

A quick look at the source code for the IBM PC/AT BIOS reveals that if you
hit CTRL-PrtSc it is recognized as a special case, causing the keyboard
interrupt handler (int 0x09) to place code 0x0072 in the keyboard buffer.
(Note that this key combination is defined only for an 88-key keyboard;
the "enhanced" keyboards put PrtSc on a special-purpose key which sends
the 0xE0 prefix.)  Testing a few systems in the area I found that CTRL-PrtSc
has no effect any more.

A previous poster suggested that if you accidentally hit ^P and keep getting
ABORT/RETRY? messages, just hit ^P again and the next response of "A" to
abort will return you to your normal programming.  This technique works,
at least for the systems I tested.

Joe Morris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Running UNIX on a GW2000 dx266?
From: wayman@pa621a.inland.com
Date: 6 Nov 92 09:00:47 CDT
Organization: Inland Steel Company, East Chicago, IN
Nntp-Posting-User: zaikos

Has anyone tried running a version of UNIX on a Gateway 2000 dx266
system?  If so, which version and successes or failures?
Please e-mail replies.  Thanks in advance.
					  Jerry
From: jon@ccl.umist.ac.uk (Jon Wells)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Amstrad mouse & Dos 5.0
Date: 9 Nov 92 11:12:30 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

Can anyone help me with this problem? I've got an Amstrad 1640, and have
recently upgraded to Dos v5.0. When I set keyb uk, the mouse buttons refuse
to work. The mouse pointer still moves on the screen, but there is no
response from the buttons. If I use the US keyb layout (which I don't
really want to do, as I have a British keyboard), everything works fine. Is
there an upgraded mouse driver that I could acquire from somewhere? Is this
a fault in the mouse/software/computer/dos5....?   Help......

Please reply by e-mail if possible...

ADVthanxANCE

Jon


Jon Wells
University of Manchester Institute of Science and Technology
Language & Linguistics Dept.
Tel: +44 61 200 3108
Fax: +44 61 200 3099
e-mail: jon@ccl.umist.ac.uk
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