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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:30:46 EDT
From:         Rick <MMLRICK@UBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: covers
              8 Sep 1992 11:17:13 -0400 from <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>

Russ -- If your band masters many different styles, you can mix 'n' match.
Play a cover in a completely different style than what people expect, e.g.:

     1. A Prince tune (like Purple Rain) done as a polka
     2. A thrash version of "I'd Like to Teach the World To Sing"
     3. "God Save The Queen" revamped into a German oom-pah waltz
     4. A "Signed Sealed & Delivered" ska-style
     5. The tango version of "So You Want To Be a Rock and Roll Star"
     6. "Be-Bop-A-Lula" as a be-bop tune
     7. Get the chords and arrangement of "Desiderata" and play that, reciting
           some Public Enemy lyrics over it in a soft, dreamy voice.
     8. A reggae version of "19th Nervous Breakdown"

You get the idea. Choose a cover tune from column A, and a style from Column B.
Others have made similar suggestions in this vein, and I support them. The idea
is to make some people laugh, annoy others, but not be boring about it, God
forbid. I guess that's also a creed of contributing to this list, isn't it?

If you're into being faithful to the originals, forget everything I just wrote
and cover little known R & B stuff from the 50's and early '60's. It rocks
(and/or swings), it's (mostly) not too hard to work up in a short time, and
people will think you wrote it. And you'll follow in the footsteps of other
bands that got famous the same way: Rolling Stones, Beatles, Led Zep, Clapton,
etc. etc. etc. etc. And try not to feel guilty about it.
Now go out there and knock 'em silly,
Rick
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:21:43 EDT
From:         Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Lite Classics

>O.K. Folks, let's get that commentary/opinion train a rollin'!!
>What do ya'll think about this trend?
>Michelle

  MUZAK.




  But seriously, this is music for people who aren't serious
about their music.  Those people who want to pretend to be
cultured and intellectual listeners of classical music who
just don't have what it takes can become instant pretenders.

  It is worse than going out and buying Pachelbel's Canon,
Vivaldi's Four Seasons, and Ravel's Bolero.

  It is the NKotB of Classical.

  Bleah.

                    -Tim
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     Heard an interesting rumor the other day, David Byrne's planning
a new tour sometime soon and is planning on stopping in Atlanta. Truth?
Fiction?  I hate to be teased, please let me know if anyone has info.
                                         Thanks,
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:12:20 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Clarifications
              "Michelle May" at Sep 15, 92 3:39 pm

> Your recommendation to Mike of the Love Alive albums was excellent--as I
> mentioned before, the Hawkins family are one of my favorite gospel groups.
> As a point of clarification, his name is Edwin Hawkins, not Edgar; and their
> most famous sister is Tramaine (pronounced like Jermaine with a Tr at the
> beginning).  I can't remember the other sister's name, either.  Gospel music
> can be difficult to sing--many choirs do so much screaming that they sound
> weak and out of tune.  I have never heard a Hawkins choir with that problem!!
>
> Michelle
>
Thanks Michelle-- I like to get musicians' names right; I think Victoria is
Walter's wife, is that right?  I'm glad to remember Tramaine because I have
such a vivid IMAGE of her on stage... So what other gospel do you like?  I have
to admit that the Winans are a little too slick for my taste.

Have you ever heard of the Wright Family from Cleveland?  not a big name but
they are GOOD.

Sonia
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:42:17 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: True Religion
              Hammer" at Sep 11, 92 3:38 pm

> >
> This is the reason that J.S. Bach had so many children:  His organ didn't hav
e
> any stops.
>
> -Scott "Droll" Hammer
>  College of William and Mary
>
Do William and Mary KNOW about you???
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:51:21 CDT
From:         Little Inquisitor <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Another gem from the past...
              3 Sep 1992 10:48:52 -0400 from <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>

On Thu, 3 Sep 1992 10:48:52 -0400 Russ Gelinas said:
>Eddie sez:
>
>>So to satify you fancy I will get off
>>of Billy Rae Cyrus for a moment and get to Garth Brooks.....
>
>No, I won't, no, no.....
>
>Secret Schlock?  Many years ago it was Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass.
>I still get a kick when I hear them in an elevator or supermarket.  Now?
>Well, like Chuck says, everything I listen to is hip by definition....
>
>Best guitar solos - no way, that's too tough.  No wait, I still like
>Adrian Belew's solo on a song on Talking Heads "Remain in Light", uh,
>The Great Curve?  Skewed is the best way to describe it.
>
>Russ

Russ, As I was about to leave the list I noticed you were looking for covers. S
ome very modest suggestions: Bo's (actually Willie Dixon's) "You can't judge a
book by looking at its cover;"  some Wailers (the guys from the Northwest, not
Jamaica); Mitch Ryder (does this music still pack a wallop or what??): and some
 New York Dolls (way ahead of their time).  And if daring enough, do "96 Tears"
 at *peak* volume. It's on my all-time fave list; saw Joe King Carrasco do it i
n a club and I swear the place was up for grabs.

Renato
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 10:44:35 EDT
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      The Mobile - Texas Line

On the Folk Sampler (syndicated public radio folk music show) this past
week, Mike Flynn, the host, played an early Tom Rush song (at least it
sounded early) called "The Mobile - Texas Line."  Does anyone know any-
thing about the pedigree of this song?  I ask because it seems clearly
to be related to Dylan's "It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to
Cry."  Similar melody, rhythm, and lyrics -- one verse is almost identical.
I'm wondering who's stealing from whom here.

Sorry to have a bad case of MSP (Multiple Short Posts) today.

-Scott "Immature Poets Borrow, Mature Poets Steal" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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Date:         Sun, 13 Sep 1992 01:47:14 CDT
From:         Titivillus <T9AA@SDSUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Lite Classics

We have RUXPIG back again to play with Country Ruxpig. Yeee-HAH!

Tell me, Ruxpin, do you like Billy Ray Cyrus? I mean, he was a
Chippendales dancer so the babes must *REALLY* dig him.

B)

Dave
t9aa@sdsumus.bitnet
Deliver me from the Powder and the Finger
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:51:44 CDT
From:         There is No Answer <T9AA@SDSUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: terror that flaps

The "eternal flame" at Elvis Presley Memorial park, across the street from the
late singer's Memphis mansion, went out after three months.  Thieves stole the
propane tanks.  The park's life-size plywood statue of Elvis has been
re-erected in a used car lot.

     Perfect. Elvis is everywhere, but he couldn't stop his memorial
     from being burglarized. I Love It.

Dave... Dave has a purple buzz

     If I'm that Dave, wrong. Chuck Taylors and obscene jeans, but
     that's liable to change.

Dave
t9aa@sdsumus.bitnet
Beat the brat with a baseball bat, oh yeah!
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:44:18 EDT
From:         Walter Keller <WK7@CORNELLC.BITNET>
Subject:      one size larger

Sonia - I like the 1 size larger idea, but I don't know what Mr Waters
looks like. I do have to admit that over the last 22 years my waist has gone
from a 30 to a 31...keep working on it; now as to you. Ms Kovitz.....

                                                         ... wck ...
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 09:31:16 EDT
From:         AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject: Re: are you Cyrus?

Give me a discription on what eejit means?  If it has something to do with
being a Billy Ray Cyrus fan or a lover of Country Music maybe I should not
hear it.  I have my choice of favorite music and I choose Country because I
like it.  If anyone has any problem with that I would like to know.

Eddie Armstrong
A friend in low places.
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:21:05 CDT
From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Re: True Religion

Ken Koester <MAINT2%ERS.BITNET@AMERICAN.EDU> sez:

>>-Scott "Edifice Complex" Hammer
>> College of William and Mary

>Ah, a chance for my flavorite pun:  Oedipus wrecks (*ta-da!*)

Or this one which was on a Rocky and Bullwinkle show -- a house
wrecking company called Edifice Wrecks.
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:15:01 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      RE: covers

>I've never heard of a no-name bar band that did "Sweet Jane" or
>"Rock & Roll,"  by the Velvet Underground. I think at least one

Actually, a short-lived band I was in did play Rock & Roll.  It was
before I really knew how to play guitar, and the other guitarist did
*both* guitar parts by himself.  Don't know what happened to him.
We also did alot of Ramones and Devo with that band.....

>"Freak Scene" by Dinosaur Jr., I'll buy y'all a beer.

Don't really know that much about them.  Are they a noise band like Sonic
Youth?  One good thing about students being back is that the radio station
comes to life again...."alternative" at least.

R
From: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
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Subject: "Play 'Freebird'!" (was Re: covers)
Date: 10 Sep 1992 03:44:48 GMT
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In a previous article, T9AA@SDSUMUS.BITNET (Good but Harmful) says:

>As you know, there's always some dumb fuckhead screaming out "Play
>Freebird!" Well, there were 5 beers in me and I decided to be that
>one dumb fuckhead. They went "Oh, Yeah? You asked for it now!!"

  You're joking, right?  I thought they only did that in Kentucky.
Man do *I* feel better knowing this. Now I know inbreeding has nothing
to do with this.
  OMJoke: 

  Q: What has 60 eyes and 4 teeth?
  A: The front row at a Hank Williams Jr. concert! *har har har*

  I called the place in Lexington that was hosting this party thang with
Scott Henderson and Gary Willis (a/k/a Tribal Tech), and it seems it's been
cancelled. Can you beat that?  I get invited to some schmoozy music biz
party, and they go an' call it off. Hrmph. Well, I guess a letter to 
BlueMoon Records is in order...

  Jeff ("n.n.")

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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:01:16 CET
From:         Sebastian Welton <SWELTON@ESOC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Wars and rumors of wars

>On Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:42:10 CET Sebastian Welton said: (re Television)
>>Mainly played a few festivals, no real tour as such. The album was released
>>today in Europe. No-more for another 14 years?
>
>Well, shit, HOW IS IT THEN? Was it worth the 14 year wait, or is it like the
>Procol Harum reunion?
>

Dunno, due to this called work I haven't been able to get out, but be assured
that I'll get it (all the interviews, press, etc, has given it the thumbs up).

Seb
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:01:18 CDT
From:         Dave Hall <USTS060@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU>
Subject:      Junkies

     Okay, so I'm new on the net.  That labels me as the fresh kill, new meat,
plebe, peon and all the other monikers you can come up with.  I accept this
and hold my plebeian head high.
     One advantage I do hold, however, is the esteemed pleasure of working
in the same office as dear ol' Lenny Ray.  I may be one of the few
privilaged soles on the net who actually knows what he looks like.
     That aside, here is what I really wrote to say: Lenny an I have just
begun trading CD's, kinda trying to introduce one another to new sounds etc.
Seeing as I'm of the younger set and he's a deep rooted blues man I thought
I'd introduce him to the Cowboy Junkies, a kinda new blues if you will.
Well, he came back after the long weekend with a down look in his eyes.  HE
DIDN"T LIKE THE COWBOY JUNKIES!
     Well, that's okay he has his preferences and I have mine.  He has,
however, taken both _Whites Off Earth Now_ and _Black Eyed Man_ home
for another listen.  Maybe its not too late.  Perchance there is still
a chance for dear Lenny Ray to see the light.
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:29:59 CDT
From:         Dave Hall <USTS060@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: More of the same
              9 Sep 1992 12:44:26 CDT from <T9AA%SDSUMUS.BITNET@AMERICAN.EDU>

On Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:44:26 CDT Good but Harmful said:
>>    Took a trip down to ye ol' recoerd store yesterday and picked up some
>>not so new albums.  Here's my two bits...
>
>>    Hindu Love Gods: Great, includes some neat blues covers (Robert Johnson)
>>       and even Woodie Guthrie's "Vigilante Man".
>
>I prefer the "Folkways - A Vision Shared" version of "Vigilante Man,"
>by Bruce Springsteen. Warren hasn't reached back up to his "Werewolves
>in London" days but I still think he's good. I *LIKE* Transverse City,
>but then again, I have all of William Gibson's cyberpunk books. There
>are some redeeming things about Mr. Bad Example, his new one, but much
>of it is filler, IMHO. Still, "Things to do in Denver (when you're
>dead)" is a classic.
>
Agreed!  Maybe I'll give _Transverse City_ another chance.  Zevon played
near Birmingham earlier this year (In Gadsden of all places!  Never heard
of it right?) and I missed him!  Something about having to work to pay
for food and those other extraneous items.

>>    _I'm Your Fan_: Sort of a tribute to Leonard Cohen, the man who claims
>>       to have originated the alternative sound (whatever that is).
>
>I do kind of like his sound, but it is too cheesy for most days, esp.
>his later stuff, when he put aside his acoustic and picked up a Casio.
>I do give credit to REM for kicking out a good version of "First we
>take Manhattan," but no one can do a better "Everybody Knows."
>
 Once again I concur.  While I like Concrete Blonde their version for that
cheesy teen flick couldn't compare with the original.

>Dave
>t9aa@sdsumus.bitnet
> Everybody knows the war is over
> Everybody knows the good guys lost

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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 08:56:05 PDT
From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: covers

"Feast of Fools" also did a cover of the infamous
Monkees tunes:

She Hangs Out
Goin' Down
(I'm not your) Stepping Stone

Do these, and I guarantee you will get a good audience response.

We also did stuff like "Touch of Gray" by the Grateful Dead,
  but with a twist--we'd play it in the style of AC/DC.
  We also did "Helter Skelter" in a cool jazz version.

Mike Masuda.
(An' I got the tapes to prove it!)
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Date:         Sun, 13 Sep 1992 19:06:53 CDT
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Comments:     Originally-From: gateley@cs.rice.edu (John Gateley)
From:         Little Inquisitor <U17801@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      grups musical

My Catalan connections are showing. Even if you don't know anyone in Spain, you
 might wish to share musical information/experiences with this person.  Renato
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hola a tothom,

Toco guitarro amb el grup musical aqui en els estat units, i estic
interesat en trobant un altre grup quan vaig a Barcelona. Aqui toco
"rock-n-roll", "blues", i "alternative". Cap alla, hi son molts musics
i molts llocs per tocar? Tambe quina tipa de musica tocan?

Moltes gracies a tothom,

j

[Translated to English, in case my Catalan is unreadable. As always,
comments and corrections appreciated]

I play guitar with a music group here in the US, and I am interested
en finding another group when I go to Barcelona. Here I play
rock-n-roll, blues, and alternative. Over there, are there many
musicians and places to play? Also, what type of music do they play?
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 11:39:21 EDT
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: True Religion
              11 Sep 1992 09:47:25 EDT from <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.E DU>

On Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:47:25 EDT Scott Hammer said:
>On Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:50:37 EDT Walter Keller said:
>>I stand corrected on the lyrics, but I still think the song is worthy.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>No, *I* stand corrected on the lyrics, by the great net.crumhornist, yet. :)
>
>Say, Ken, believe it or not, the words sackbut and crumhorn came up at
>dinner last night, but none of the assemble confreres really had any clear
>idea what they were.  Care to edify us?
>
>-Scott "Edifice Complex" Hammer
> College of William and Mary

Ah, a chance for my flavorite pun:  Oedipus wrecks (*ta-da!*)

I see from my mailbag that someone already took this on (damnation!  see what
happens when you go away from =ALLMUSIC= for an hour to actually do some--I
know it's a curseword--*work*?  (-: ), but I'll tack on a response anyways.

The sackbut is, as said elsewhere, the trombone predecessor.  It would have
been a member of what the Renaissance boogy-ers would have called a "loud"
consort of instruments.  You usually don't see it as part of its own 4-part
choir, though; it is often mixed with shawm (think of it as an oboe) in consort
of that instrument, or with other brasses.  The crumhorn is a double reed
instrument, shaped like a "J", with the reeds capped by a wooden cover.  You
never take the reeds into your mouth, which means you can't do as much with
it as you can with a shawm, bombarde, oboe, dulcian, etc.  The crumhorn, like
the recorder, comes in complete SATB sizes and would have been considered
part of a "soft", or indoor, consort.  Of course, you can mix and match
these things together--I discovered in Canterbury this summer that a bassoon
(or a dulcian if you got one) works marvelously well to give a true bass to
recorders (which play at 4 foot pitch, not at the regulation 8, and so, don't
sound very deep).

As for being a crumhornist, yes. . . but you won't want to listen to me for
several months yet (-:  In compensation, though, I *did* make my own axe--how
many of you hotshotters can say the same?  (-:
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:24:02 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: covers

Sonya sez, please play:

>Gloria
Learned to play it for a gig at a beach club when Hurrican Gloria was
approaching.  Unfortunately, Gloria was in a hurry, and the gig got
cancelled.
.
.
.
>Sherry
If you sing it ;-)

>Magic Bus
I've thought about this one.  The original is slightly anarchic, which would
fit our style.

Russ
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Date: Thursday, 10 Sep 1992 16:31:29 EDT
From: K. Roper <ROPERK@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
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Subject: Re: Garrison Keeler


  Thanks!  (Since I've only heard the name, the misspelling is, I hope,
   understandable :)


  Kim
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From: gjm11@cus.cam.ac.uk (G.J. McCaughan)
Subject: Re: need train song recommendations
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 01:49:59 GMT

Almost certainly not suitable:
  "Different Trains", by Steve Reich.
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:15:20 EDT
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: porcaro
              10 Sep 1992 11:20:30 -0400 from <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>

On Thu, 10 Sep 1992 11:20:30 -0400 Russ Gelinas said:
>What's this about Jeff Porcaro's death being drug-related?  Lat I heard
>it was an allergic reaction to pesticide.
>
A week or so later, it was widely reported that an autopsy had revealed
that his death was drug-related, rather than the allergic reaction which
had been reported earlier.  I don't have the details handy, but I'll
look for them, if you want.

-Scott "Don't Kill the Messenger" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:11:46 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: terror that flaps
              terror that flaps in the night" at Sep 8, 92 12:44 pm

> Michael could toodle on his pennywhistle.
>
That's a Zappa lyric, right?

Carol Me Baddhran, let me know if you want me to get that bodhran video
someday... I'm sure it'll be there forever.  I think it's $30 but I'll find
out.

The "eternal flame" at Elvis Presley Memorial Park, across the street from the
late singer's Memphis mansion, went out after three months.  Thieves stole the
propane tanks.  The park's life-sized plywood statue of Elvis has been
re-erected in a used car lot.  Sic transit gloria (there's that song again)
mundi

Chuck looks like Husserl (correction: he TRIES to look like Husserl)
Jeff Beer... can't get a reading... he's crouched under his terminal growling
EdD looks like Divine
Walter Keller looks like John Waters but one size larger
Dave... Dave has a purple buzz
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