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From: cgarnett@unix.amherst.edu (CRAIG HAMMOND GARNETT)
Subject: Re: cerebus 162
Organization: Amherst College
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Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 16:36:43 GMT

Karen Williams (branwen@cerebus.ccc.amdahl.com) wrote:
: This may seem completely off the wall, but that's never stopped me before.
: In the last three pages of Cerebus #162 ...
: (spoilers)
: 
: ...we see Astoria in chains on one side of a double-page spread, I assume
: Cirin on the other side, and Cerebus wielding a sword emerging from what
: looks suspiciously like a vagina in the middle. On the last page he disappears
: with a ...um...bang. So, given that this story is called "Mothers and 
: Daughters," and that Cirin is an aardvark and thinks mothers are the best
: things in the world, and Astoria was pregnant at one time but we've never
: seen the baby, and everything else that's going on, what could Sim possibly
: mean by this? Assuming, of course, that I'm not completely off the wall.
: 
I thought of this, too, but I wasn't able to come up with any kind of
possible explanation for it. But, yeah, it does look like something
might be going on on those two pages.

-C
Organization: Junior, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Date: Wed,  7 Oct 1992 12:00:42 -0400 
From: "Jonathan D. Lyness" <jl6e+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Logic in Advs. of Superman!!!
	<1992Oct6.215801.7476@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>


In article <1992Oct5.182732.11381@tandem.com>, Montague_Kevin@Tandem.com
(Kevvy Kev) writes...
>So:
> 
>I burn through the latest issue of Adventures of Superman, in which the 
>imp from the 5th torments our big lovable oaf once again.  Besides the 
>Watchmen "tribute,"
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Wow...I'm very curious. What is this "tribute"?
Could someone who has read the issue explain?


thanks,

Jon
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From: Alexx@world.std.com (Alexx S Kay)
Subject: Re: cerebus 162
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:35:05 GMT

solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay) writes:

>The Oscar (actually "Sebastian Melmoth", I believe) from
>"Melmoth" is definitely a different person. He was just released
>from prison at more or less the time the "Jaka's Story" Oscar was
>locked up (in fact, he may well have been imprisoned by Cerebus's
>administration). Note that he talks about the author of "Daughter
>of Palnu" in the third person, and is sure that the last chapter
>was written by a different (inferior) author than the man who
>wrote the rest of it. The first "Oscar" was the author of "Jaka's
>Story", and, as that Oscar complained in his correspondance, the
>publishers seemed intent on naming it "Daughter of Palnu." He was
>of course imprisoned before he could finish the book.

Minor nit:  Oscar had in fact finished *writing* the book, he simply
had not sent his stingy publishers the third part, due to non-payment
for his work on the first two.

Alexx

Alexx@world.std.com
Smile if you *are* Jesus.
	[Seen on a Nancy Button]
From: joak@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jonathan A. Kung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Slapstick?
Date: 10 Oct 1992 20:17:44 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
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rjung@aludra.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung) writes:
>Just wanted to know, does anyone have any comments on Marvel Comic's SLAPSTICK
>limited series?
>
>My two bucks is that it's silly, it's irreverent, it's camp, it's the perfect
>compliment to Groo, and I want to see more of the character...

Careful!  Too much can make you go blind!

-Jon Kung, doesn't need glasses, but that's a fluke
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 13 Oct 1992 09:18:05 CDT
From: <U58402@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Legends of the Dark Knight #39 (no spoilers)
 <1992Oct11.220414.1@fnalo.fnal.gov> <1992Oct12.172448.1@fnalo.fnal.gov>
 <1bdb30INN67k@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>

As for Talbot's "Miller ripoff" in the first few pages:

The narration was so much like Miller's that, given the story, I figured
it was a deliberate semi-parody of Miller-speak. It seemed to be used
to set up the possibility that there actually is no villian and that
poor Bruce really has been hallucinating all these years.


Wilbur Pan                                  u58402@uicvm.uic.edu
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From: MATMNB@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU (BRAZIL,Marcus N)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Milligan Request
Date: 9 Oct 92 06:57:28 GMT
 <1992Oct6.161633.20263@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <1992Oct6.224303.5631@athena.cs.uga.edu>
Organization: La Trobe University
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> In article <1992Oct6.161633.20263@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Killans - First And Last And Always) writes:
> >>Peter Milligan is doing Shade: The Changing (Wo)Man right now.
> >Bad Company (Fleetway, originally in 2000AD)
> >Animal Man (between Morrison and Veitch)
> >Skreemer (6-issue DC ltd series)
> >probably loads of other stuff for 2000AD
> >and, most recently, Skin, a one-off from Tundra UK.

Peter Milligan has also written for the short-lived Eclipse series _Strange
Days_, and has written the series "Johnny Nemo" which appeared in the British
_Deadline_ and is currently being reprinted in _Deadline U.S.A._ (published
by Dark Horse). He has also scripted a number of stories for the British
anthology _A1_ (published by Atomika Press).

By the way, I agree that _Skin_ is an excellent, provocative graphic novel.
I was a bit unconvinced by the violent ending, which felt like something
out of an E.C. horror comic, but this was more than made up for by the powerful
writing and convincing characterizations of the earlier parts of the book.
Also, the art by McCarthy and Swain is very impressive (IMHO). Another
first-rate project from Tundra.
                               ....Marcus Brazil....
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: THE SANDMAN SERIES ...
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:21:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: bradley.1992Oct9.012142.21966
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bradley University



I started with the Graphic Novels and had really very little problem finding
the rest at reasonable prices.  With the most recent GN, it should be
even easier.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
         We are obviously very close to reproducing the Muslim paradise
                   where every orgasm lasts six hundred years
From: justice@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael John Stiehl)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: A Bitter Old Man on the Hulk
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:21:00 GMT
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Distribution: world
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
	I'm I the only person thats noticed the Mighty Marvel blunder thats
	been commited on the Hulk?
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Originator: justice@csd4.csd.uwm.edu


	The loss of Dale Keown's art on the Hulk is, in a word, tragic.
	The only thing more tragic than the lost of his art is who they
	replaced him with.

	Jan Duursema's art on issue #399 was at best a weak effort.
	Perhaps I've been spoiled by the awsome art that Keown has done
	on the Hulk (especailly on issue #398), but Duursema's art looks
	like a cheap knock off of Keown's.

	Why must we suffer with such a poor replacement on the Hulk.
	Over all this is (or should I say was) one of the best titles that
	Marvel put out.  True Peter David's writing is still top knotch,
	but the comic has lost somthing in Keown's departure.

	While it is true that Keown was going to leave anyway, Todd
	MacFarland in Spawn #3 (I think it was #3) said that he was yanked
	(Dale Keown that is) from the book with no explanation.

	Well the explanation is simple.  With Keown going to Image 
	Marvel just wanted to yank him off the book for spite.
	In the procees those dim wits at Marvel, headed by chief 
	dim wit Tom DeFalco, interupted a four part series with in
	a series.

	Over all Marvel managed to rob not only Dale Keown of leaving the
	title the way he wanted to, but they robbed us, the fans, of
	what could have been some of Keown's best work on the Hulk.
	
	This is a really just another screw up at Marvel.
	
	Thanks Tom DeFalco!!!!
	
	
	
	Geezer Boy
	
	
	e
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From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston)
Subject: Re: Characters available for Marvel 2099
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:37:51 GMT

jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) writes:

>bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu (GRUBB) writes:

>>I was thinking about Marvel's 2099 series and who from the 1990's would
>>still be alive in 2099 given what we have been told.

>>The original Dr. Doom:  In an Iron Man comic Dr Doom and Iron Man are
>>Dr. Strange:  In a divergent future (Gardians of the Galaxey(sp)) Strange is
>>The Red Skull:  given his access to cloning equipment and the extended life
>>Wolverine:  hinted at in GOTG that he MAY still be alive in the 31st
[... reasonable list deleted ...]

>(It's almost too easy to think of an excuse for having a particular
>character alive 100 years hence.)

Yep, it is too easy.  I hope the 2099 books don't just do issue after
issue of "Gosh, ---- is still alive!  Isn't that amazing!?"  I didn't
enjoy it in GotG, and I don't think I'd enjoy it here.  Most of the
non-cosmic super characters in the Marvel Universe are supposed to
have gained their powers/had their origins in the past 30 years or so,
right?  So given that 100 years elapse between now and the 2099 books,
many more characters should (reasonably) come to exist before the 2099
books.  I'd rather see THOSE characters than the same old stinky ones
I can see in the books set in the present Marvel universe.

Tom
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From: morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (Lake Elmo, MN)
Subject: Re: LNH:  Enter...Kid Kirby!
Organization: Calm Blue Water...and a Muskie the Size of Boise
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 06:48:29 GMT
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In article <1992Oct7.004918.27406@njitgw.njit.edu>, bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
> In article <0eoSxbe00iV3E3YXgC@andrew.cmu.edu> ha09+@andrew.cmu.edu (Harith Jameel Alkhafiz) writes:
> Obscure Trivia Lad, ducking from the attacks from the unidentifiable
> weapons Kid Kirby starts shooting at him, before he realizes that
> he's dead and the weapons won't hurt him anyway.

	You know, it occurs to me that Obscure Trivia Lad is *enjoying* 
being dead far too much for the LNHers to resurrect him and spoil the fun....

	Master Frothing-at-the-Mouth Lad signing off. 
	Yes, I passed.  Thanks for all the good wishes.
-- 
"If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he     
hears a different drummer."--Henry David Thoreau                               
  
elmo (morrow@physics.rice.edu,morrow@fnal.fnal.gov)
From: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Nightstalkers #2
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:36:32 GMT
Reply-To: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu


	The blasphemer King Rat wishes to know if anyone has read Nighstalkers
#2 yet.  The fool (hey!) wonders if those zombies at the end are former
New Mutants.  Our hostage didn't collect New Mutants, but may recognize
their likenesses from back issues.  Is the blasphemer correct?
 

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: CEREBUS 161: Sitting roaches
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:44:57 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <1992Oct9.165557.12944@tc.fluke.COM>, moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime) writes:
> In <Bvnv59.yH@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> kieran@cmatter.physics.indiana.edu (kieran) writes:
> 
> >     No, not fatal, but it did effectively remove him from the position
> >as the leader of the mini-rebellion against the Cirinists.  I can't see
> >this new love-struck Roach shooting automatic crossbow bolts at anyone.
> >(BTW, who is he supposed to resemble now?)
> 
> Morpheus (aka Dream), I believe.

???  The only obvious change was in his eyes (he used to have a
wild-eyed look).  He's obviously in love.  EWWW!
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From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: PAD. Is it really him?
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:43:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw86L5.nH
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

There is one way to find out.
Okay, PAD, riddle me this:

how many pizzas did you order for the panel in chicago, from what restaurant
and if you are now the spiritual head of a religion, does thsi mean that
if Swamp Thing was supposed to meet you, would Karen Berger have to do a
last minute rewrite so as not to rbing down a jihad at DC?

if you are THE ONE AND ONLY Petey, see if you can remember this quote:

You played football with Data's HEAD!
it coudl ahve been worse.
he coudl have left it in San Fransisco.

(of course the real Questioon to the Ultimate answer may no longer be
What si the airspeed of an unladen swallow, but is in fact "How many
Peter David's are there anyway?"

Bye.

Lady Johanna Constantine
aka Tara 
tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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Subject: Re: Batman Returns on Video
From: hummell+@pitt.edu (Andrew G Hummell)
Date: 7 Oct 92 06:15:43 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <92280.191621JWS134@psuvm.psu.edu> JWS134@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>
>and probably missed all the talk when the film hit theaters this summer. One qu
>estion: Does anyone out there have an answer/opinion about the fact that the Pe
>nguin had complete schematics on Bats' car? Complete blueprints? C'mon!
>
The novelization says that the blueprints were aquired by Max Schreck from
a disgruntled employee of the company that built the Batmobile.  At least
it's an explanation.

Andy

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From: jd53@prism.gatech.EDU (DE LA COVA,JORGE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Batman Adventures #2
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:22:15 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Has anyone taken a look at this one.  I was pleasantly surprised by
how good it was, capturing the tone and mood of the animated series.

If you wrote this one off before you ever even picked it up, you
might want to take a look at it.  While the art is extremely
cartoony (animated series, get it?:) ) it shows real sensitivity
to perspective and the angles from which the shots are drawn give it
a real movie feel.  

And of course, once again the play between Catwoman and Batman (the
horny sap) has proven to be one of the most entertaining things about this 
whole series.  

Any comments?g
-- 
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From: ev22+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ezra I. Veitch)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Image gets competition?
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:13:36 GMT
	<1992Oct15.145338.16764@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
Organization: Freshman, Art, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


In article <1992Oct15.050626.26445@sol.UVic.CA>,
jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling) writes:
> 
> 	Sources close to [The Comics Journal] have confirmed recent rumours
> 	of a new creators' imprint called _Dinosaur_, whose founding members
> 	include Frank Miller, Walt Simonson, John Byrne, Art Adams, and
> 	Geoffrey Darrow.  The core group of five has also sounded out other
> 	creators, including Alan Moore, Mike Mignola and Chris Claremont,
> 	about joining the group.
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<Verry Interesting!  Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't all these people
<done work for Dark Horse sometime during their illustrious careers?  <Well,
<maybe not Art Adams.
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Well--This mignt be interesting to all you Image Fans!
	Rick Veitch,Steve Bissette and Alan Moore are collaborating as we speak
on a 6 issue book for image called '1968'-and is based on Kirby like
heros who will be thrown into '92 in one-shots with all the Image titles!

Miller and John byrne are supposed to be doing One-shot issues of Spawn too!

This is all planned for next summer--so I'll keep updating.


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From: v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: WeaselNews (wn) temporarily serving alt.comics.lnh
Date: 13 Oct 92 12:14:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct13.040922.24019@cis.ohio-state.edu>, friedman@ganymede.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark "Crimson" Friedman) writes...
>I have an experimental news server on boa.cis.ohio-state.edu port 4321
>that's serving up alt.comics.lnh articles.  Telnet there and check it
>out...and alpha-test it for me at the same time!  May as well...

I tried, and all I got was login:


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From: rafeld@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Mike Rafeld)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:44:14 GMT
Subject: PC Inventory: Comic Keeper
Organization: HP Application Support Division
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc

Comic Fans:

As an avid comic book collector for the past...17 years!?, and a full-fledged
software developer for the past 8 years, and a PC software developer for the
past five years, I've had an abiding interest in cataloguing my comic book
collection (~10,000 items) using a PC (IBM-compatible) I have at home.

My interest is primarily for insurance purposes, but also because, like many
collectors, I have an overwhelming need to make "lists."  I like the list
of comics I own, the list of comics I want, the list of comics/covers
illustrated by Barry Windsor-Smith, the list of Silver Surfer appearances, 
and the list of all comics published in February, 1962.  

Anywho, I've played around over the years with various ideas--most recently,
the idea of a PC relational database with a fancy user interface.  I looked
at Paradox 3.5, but I'm now awaiting Paradox for Windows.

Designing and implementing such a database is one chore. The next is filling
it up with your inventory.  We're talking much work.

Well, just this month, my subscription service (Westfield) is offering software
to both inventory and research your comic collection.  One program is 
a simple database (DOS only), geared towards comic collections.  The other
is a comprehensive bibliography of comicdom, but doesn't allow one to 
check which issues he owns.

After a convoluted search to find out more about these, I stumbled across a
third program: Comic Keeper.  It's out of a company called CompuQuote, in L.A.
They have apparently combined the two ideas above into a comprehensive
inventory system of ALL comics from 1954 to 1991. It also is DOS-based, 
but sounds to be an impressive tool.

Now, my questions to you all are this:
  1) Have any of you used this program and, if so, how was it?
  2) Would any of you be interested in a demo version being made available
     on the Internet?  It would be "crippled" in some way (e.g., no reports
     can be printed, or only 25 personal comics can be inventoried), but
     would still show full functionality.
  3) Would anyone want a Windows version, or is this too small a target
     market?

The program has two volumes: Vol I. 1954 - 1976, Vol II. 1976 - 1991. 
They run $75 for one volume, $105 for both. The demo is currently $15, but
that is to cover their cost for materials.  If there's enough interest
shown on this forum (or in CompuServe), I might be able to persuade CompuQuote
to put the demo online.  Or, you can talk with CompuQuote at 1-800-782-6775.

Send me your comments!

Thanks,

Mike Rafeld
rafeld@hpcc01.corp.hp.com
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