HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: GIF89? (was Re: NASA photos online?)
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:28:55 GMT

if the gif is a vanilla graphics file, one can sometimes, occasionally,
possibly, perhaps (get the trend here...) display it by bit editting
the header.

Many times though the 89a files contain multiple images, text and graphics,
etc. and the only machines "powerful" enough to handle these things are
MS-DOS or Macs I guess - otherwise someone on an Apple II or Unix box would
have written display software to display them, right? <grin>
-- 
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From: jemorti@relay.nswc.navy.mil (Jack Mortimer - K31)
Subject: Re: AWGS Problem
Organization: NSWC
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:38:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.181539.866@ualr.edu>, hdgarner@acs.harding.edu writes:
|> I am having an annoying problem with the AWGS spreadsheet. When I open a
|> spreadsheet file it just shows one cell in the upper left corner and it
|> basically locks up. I can move the spreadsheet cursor all around but it 
|> does not go back to the arrow. After a while it crashes and I have to
|> reboot. This is rather odd. Could Proterm 3.0 be causing this problem?
|> Or, could the Hotkeys FExt have something to do with this problem?
|> Any help would be appreciated.
|> 
|> hdgarner@harding.edu
Standard questions apply: What GS?  How much RAM?  What version of AWGS?
Did you disable your TSR/init/etc. stuff? Does it do this when nothing else
is running? Have you tried to reinstall AWGS?
If you suspect something might be interfering, disable or remove it and 
retest.
Good luck in your troubleshooting.
Jack Mortimer
jemorti@relay.nswc.navy.mil

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From: jpenne@ee.ualberta.ca (Jerry Penner)
Subject: Re: Western design chip
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:25:02 GMT

cb408@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Reames) writes:

>I read in the Feb. issue of A+/InCider that Western Design has a chip for the
>GS, the W65C81PL-E, that will double the speed of the GS.  Is this on the
>level?  Anyone have one that can confirm it really works?  How about the
>cost?  Thanks!!

Interesting concept, but I doubt it exists.  As Matt "Unknown"
Ackeret mentions in another post to this thread, there are some
details resolving accelerators that need to be resolved.

Furthermore, the main reason I don't think it would work is for such a
chip to speed up a stock GS, it would need to reduce the number of
clock cycles each instruction takes to execute.  This would wreak
havoc with all sorts of I/O routines built into your ROMs and
basically the machine would break.  This was actually a reason some
6502 instructions didn't have their timings "fixed" when the 65816 was
fabricated--Disk II timing compatibility would be forgone.  Such is
the cost of compatibility.  After all, if it can't run Applevision
from a 5.25" Dos 3.3 disk, it's not an Apple II.

It would have been neat if the 65816 "native" mode could have run
instructions with new, better timings, while maintaining 6502 clock
timings for emulation mode.  That way, MVP and MVN could have been
done so each byte moved only took 2 clock cycles rather than 7.
Anyway, it's a moot point now, and dreaming about what should have
been is a waste of time, except you know how not to do it in the
future.  But I digress... :)
-- 
Jerry Penner   jpenne@ee.ualberta.ca   or   jjp@myrias.ab.ca
From: dinarich@disuns2.epfl.ch (Mirko Dinarich, EPFL INFO 95)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Two Systems... One Hard Drive?
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:45:22 GMT
Reply-To: dinarich@disuns2.epfl.ch
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

Where I can find TaifunBoot ?

Thanks for all reply .


                                          Mirko Dinarich

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From: jsimmons@cs.sunysb.edu (Jason Simmons)
Subject: Re: aaarghh...DragWindow doesn't drag...
Organization: State University of New York, Stony Brook
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:06:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.200524.5726@ifi.unizh.ch> gudat@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (gudat henrik) writes:
>
>Any way out? Does DragWindow check the frame bits (BTW, fMove=1)?

DragWindow does not require that the fMove bit be set.  You could try using a
DragRect/MoveWindow sequence if DragWindow is not performing correctly.

Jason Simmons
jsimmons@sbcs.sunysb.edu
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From: eeidscw@engvms.unl.edu (strider)
Subject: Re: Apple ///(not a misprint)
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:06:01 GMT

Have you heard from any of the members of Washington Apple Pi?  They
should be able to help with Apple /// problems.  Also, Bob Consorti
has software and hardware available from his ON Three Inc. including
SCSI hard drives.  Sun Remarketing sells Apple /// replacement parts
and manuals.

Sun's phone number is 800-821-3221.  I don't have the other addresses
handy.  I can post them if you wish.


Scott Weddel   strider   Apple /// aficionado   eeidscw@engvms.unl.edu
    Sterling Rider       MegaChip A500C= DCTV   UNLincoln Nebraska USA



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From: jmk3@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jay Krell)
Subject: Re: FTPable Screensaver/modem programs/print-screen for //gs?
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 22 Jan 93 00:15:33 GMT

See the FAQ. One Apple II ftp site is ccosun.caltech.edu.
 
  --Jay, jay.krell@cornell.edu
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Subject: Re: Printer Port Control Panel Settings
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:56:01 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <C1AxCH.9Iw@rice.edu> jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu (Jim Wong) writes:
> When do the control panel settings for the GS's printer port apply?

In general, when printing from BASIC, or from any program that uses
either the Pascal or Basic entry points in the firmware, and doesn't
change the settings itself.

There is a note in the firmware manual which says that the Pascal
firmware always assumes the application will supply line feeds, so it
ignores the control panel setting for 'Add LF after CR'.  You can
re-enable the auto line feed feature by sending the three character
sequence: Control-I 'L' 'E' before writing any further text (assuming
the GS/OS driver hasn't disabled command recognition).

Note: the Control-I character is only valid if the port is set to
'Printer' mode.  If it is set to 'Modem' mode, use Control-A instead.
-- 
David Empson

Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Shadow Ram
Date: 20 Jan 93 22:30:06 GMT

QuickDraw II, for quite some time now, grabs $01/2000 if it can get it.
Programs that start QuickDraw II and _then_ try to grab that memory for
themselves will fail rather miserably.  They _should_ grab it before
starting QuickDraw II...

- Eric S.

--
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FidoNet:  1:206/2713 Eric Shepherd | Programming Law #1: "When in
AOL:      Sheppy                   | doubt, rewrite from scratch."
From: VBCSC038@VAX.CSUN.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Unzipper
Date: 28 Jan 1993 01:23:33 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Looks like time for someone to update the UNZippers..


PKWARE came out with PKZIP v2.04e and the new PKZIPPED files are unzippable
(but readable etc).

Brenden
 

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From: voss@i40s16.ira.uka.de (Stefan Voss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Need text editor
Date: 25 Jan 1993 12:10:21 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
Distribution: world
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In article <1993Jan24.202426.3777@donau.et.tudelft.nl>, reinoud@duteca.et.tudelft.nl (R. Lamberts) writes:
|> Hi all,
|> 
|> I need a text editor for my Apple IIc. [stuff deleted] Is there a
|> usable PD one available for ftp somewhere? I would prefer something like vi,
|> but I'll take anything that *works*.
|> Thanks much!

I can remember two PD text editors available via ftp.
- AppleWriter. Now freeware. 
- AMACS. Similar to Emacs.

They should be on the major ftp sites for the Apple II (cco.caltech.edu, etc.).

|> 
|>  - Thomas (abusing Reinoud's account)

Stefan Voss
(voss@ira.uka.de)
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From: jmk3@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jay Krell)
Subject: Re: cirtech
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 28 Jan 93 07:40:00 GMT

Hey! Nate Trost, Steve Gunn, Rick "ORCA Rookie" Diffley.
I must've dialed GEnie. :)
 
My companies file has this to say on Cir-Tech:
 
        Cirtech (UK) Limited
        Monksford Stables
        Newtown St Bosweils,
        Scotland TD6 ORU
        Tel. +44 835-23898
        Fax  +44 835-22471
 
  --Jay, jay.krell@cornell.edu

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From: "andrew andoniadis" <andrew.andoniadis@canrem.com>
Subject: clarisworks<>graphicwrite
Reply-To: "andrew andoniadis" <andrew.andoniadis@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 23 Jan 93 23:10:36 EST

Does anyone know of a way to move a Clarisworks Mac word processer file
to Graphicwriter III on a IIGS or vice versa?
Thanks
Andy A.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu (Jim Wong)
Subject: Re: Use ProDOS disks in a MAC
Organization: Rice University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 09:37:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.134408.15210@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins) writes:
>
>	The other problem I've seen with it is that it doesn't coexist with 
>any sort of Dos Mounter/access PC type of program, so you have to make a 
>decision what disks you will be accessing.
>
It seem to work with Apple's PC Exchange pretty well -- I haven't seen it
used in conjunction with Access PC or DOS Mounter, though.  Choosing "Erase
Disk" from the Special menu in the Finder even lets you choose what file
system to put on the newly erased disk, a feature I had previously thought
was more or less unique to GS/OS.

>	On another note, what is the best way to download // programs from 
>a mac to a Apple //?
>

It depends; if you're in a more or less permanent installation, the neatest
solution is to set up personal file sharing on the Mac and grab the files
via a small AppleTalk network.  Barring that, I'd just copy the files
onto Mac HFS disks and hand carry them over to the Apple II.  (Oops; I assumed
that you were talking about a IIGS when you said Apple II.  If you need
to move files to a different II, particularly one without a 3.5" drive, things
get more complicated).

-- 
Jim Wong (jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu)
From: kls0@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Plague)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Formatting troubles :(
Date: 24 Jan 93 17:39:26 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Whenever I hit ESC while in the Finder, it locks up and I can'tI seem to have a
problem with my Finder (and all other S16 programs).  Here's the deal.  If I
try to format a disk (3.5" or 5.25") my GS yells "ALERT! ALERT!" at me, and
then locks up - kinda.  I can't activate any windows, but
I have the Animated Watch INIT running, and it keeps running - forever.  I'm
assuming it's one of the INITs I have installed, but before I do some lengthy
troubleshooting, I was wondering if anybody else has/had this probelm.  BTW: it
doesn't crash if I boot up without INITs/DAs.  I've got a 4MB GS, ROM 01,
running System 6.
 
Here's my */System/System.Setup folder:
 
 
/plague/system/system.setup/      20 files
 
name            type  blocks   modified               access
----            ----  ------   --------               ------
introplay        tsf       9   21-Dec-88    9:52 AM   rwnd B
startpic         tsf       1   26-Dec-87    4:57 AM   rwnd B
finder.view      str     127   14-Jun-92    6:00 AM   rwnd B
findersounder    str       4    6-May-92   10:15 PM   rwnd B
cdev.init        tsf       6   14-Jun-89   10:29 AM   rwnd
aw               str       3   18-Mar-89    1:25 PM   rwnd B
dtutils3.3       str      77   17-Jan-93    6:47 PM   rwnd B
finder.data      $C9       1   23-Jan-93    6:56 PM   rwnd B
gs.spy.2         str      22    2-Apr-91    9:18 PM   rwnd B
picture.a        pic      65   15-Dec-92    3:35 PM   rwnd B
resource.mgr     str      24   13-Feb-92    1:00 AM   rwnd
scrollicons      str       4   21-Jun-92   12:31 AM   rwnd
sys.resources    p16      52   13-Feb-92    1:00 AM   rwnd
tool.setup       str      39   13-Feb-92    1:00 AM   rwnd
ts2              $BC      74   13-Feb-92    1:00 AM   rwnd
ts3              $BC      82   13-Feb-92    1:00 AM   rwnd
bidwelcome       bin      90   18-Dec-92    8:44 PM   rwnd B
introsound       bin      90   21-Dec-88    9:52 AM   rwnd B
desktracker      str      36    5-Jul-92   12:57 AM   rwnd B
synthinit        str      12   15-May-92    8:45 PM   rwnd B
 
blocks free: 6452    used: 11928  (65%)     total: 18380

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From: WULF@cip.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Wulf Hofbauer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: -----> Re: Need help with some text files
Date: 27 Jan 1993 16:22:16 GMT
Organization: CIP-Pool Physics Dept, University of Stuttgart, FRG
Distribution: world
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Stripping off additional linefeeds can be handled from many editors. For
AppleWriter (isn't there a freeware version out?) you'd type:

<ctrl-f>!#!!a<ret>

... and you're done.

- Wulf


"Though this be madness, there is method in it." (Shakespeare)
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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Wednesday, 27 Jan 1993 19:57:55 MST
From: <AUJGH@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: GIF89? (was Re: NASA photos online?)

 cust_ts@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tero Sand) writes:

> Log in as user. Unfortunately, GIF3200.0.2 doesn't seem to recognize the
> GIFs there, and GIFVIEW can't compress pictures or select insets.

i've run across several gif files that neither seem to be able to decode
("image descriptor not in specified location" (?)).  They all have "GIF89A"
in the header (instead of 87).  Are there any gif viewers for the GS that
can handle these files?

   greg h.    aujgh.asuvm.inre.asu.edu
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Super Hi Res Stuff
Date: 23 Jan 1993 09:54:25 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

adri0001@student.tc.umn.edu (Wouldn't you like to know) writes:

>This continued until someone told me that I needed to flip the SHR screen on
>first...then clear it.  I am doing that now and it's working.  The only problem
>is that you can see what was on the SHR screen before and that makes for a
>rough transition.  Just a split-second before the SHR screen comes up, it's

When you turn on SHR via setting the hi bit of $C029, the correlation of
memory addresses to physical RAM storage cells in banks $E0-E1 changes. This
is why clearing first didn't work right, and clearing afterward did. This
changed memory map is called the "linear" memory map because it must be used
when storing pixels according to the linear memory layout of SHR.

What it _actually_ does is skew things so that the video hardware can read 16
bits in one shot out of all four DRAMs and have the two bytes be adjacent to
each other in linear memory rather than be main/auxiliary bytes at the same
address. (This is done for bandwidth reasons -- ever wonder how SHR manages to
read FOUR bytes every microsecond? Two 16 bit accesses using DRAM page mode.)

To get the SHR memory map without displaying SHR, set the next highest bit
in $C029 (i.e. LDA #$40; TSB $C029). DO NOT use DHR with this bit set because
the memory map change affects DHR as well, and Apple says DON'T DO IT in the
tech manuals.

Setting the high bit of $C029 overrides the setting of the next highest bit,
so feel free to leave the #$40 bit on while your program runs (especially if
you need to switch in and out of SHR a lot!). Just make sure you clear it
when you are all done using SHR mode. This may not be strictly required, but
it is good programming practice to act as if it were.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
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(Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0nGmnn-0000zYC; Tue, 26 Jan 93 01: 41 PST
From: tgeer@pro-gumbo.cts.com (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: Bought a Franklin Ace 1000: Questions..
Organization: TGraphics, Inc.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 23:59:39 CST

In <ao59574@pro-nsdapple.cts.com> tomk@pro-nsdapple.cts.com (Tom Kelly) writes:

>Does anyone have the patch to make ProDos work on a Franklin?

Patches - I've got patches.  Here are a couple of methods that you can try.
Please note that these patches are most probably version dependent.  I don't
know which version(s) these will work with - you'll just have to try them out.

This first patch is a memory patch only - you will have to perform it every
time you boot the disk but it's quick and dirty.  When you boot the disk and
it 'locks up', press reset and you will land in the monitor with a '*' prompt.
Now type:
          265B:EA EA <RETURN>
          2000G <RETURN>       the disk should boot normally now

The second method involves patching the disk with a sector editor such as the
one in Copy ][+.  Read in track $01, sector $09 and change bytes $60-$61 from
A9 00 to A5 0C.  If this does not work then get another ProDOS disk, read in
the same track and sector and change bytes $5B-$5C to EA EA.  Remember to only
apply these disk patches to expendable copies of your original disks and NEVER
to the original disks themselves.  These patches will probably only work with
very early versions of ProDOS.  P.S. Don't forget to write the modified sector
back out to the disk!

And to think - my wife wanted me to get rid of all my old Assembly Lines,
Computist, Nibbles, etc.  "But they might come in handy someday!"

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From: 90taobri@wave.scar.utoronto.ca (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GraphicWriter III 2.0 ?
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:10:57 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: MuGS Research and Development Facility

The following revelation escaped Philip R. Lindberg's lips:
> 
> "Volker Herrmann" <CD46@DKAUNI2.BITNET> writes:
> > 
> >Has anybody any information about new versions of GraphicWriter III
> >(version 2.0 maybe ?)
> 
> Sure.  What do you want to know?

    Projected release date?  New features?  Bug fixes?  Although GWIII
is fairly decent DTP software, there are a *lot* of things that could be
improved and fixed for version 2.0.

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From: ST7759@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: RE: EPSON APL patch for Appleworks
Date: 22 Jan 93 04:49:52 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

First of all, my thanks go out to David Empson for providing the info on
the patch in the first place.  For the life of me I could never figure
out why I could never print under Appleworks.  Unfortunately, his patch
didn't directly address Appleworks version 1.3.  I have this version,
and his directions allowed me to make the patch anyway. For those who
have version 1.3 and need the location of the bytes to patch:  its
3BFD-3C02.  Again, thanks!  This has radically changed my attitude
towards Appleworks.  I had been using it anyway (cause I like it), but
up to now had been forced to convert it to another format so that I
could get a printout of anything.

If I haven't thanked others who have offered suggestions and solutions
and advice on other questions I haved asked here, thanks to all of you,
too!  You're generally a great crowd! ;-)

Alex
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: aa382@Freenet.carleton.ca (Marc Sira)
Subject: Re: Allison 2.0 preannouncement
Reply-To: aa382@Freenet.carleton.ca (Marc Sira)
Organization: The National Capital Freenet
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:29:29 GMT


In a previous article, seah@ee.rochester.edu (David Seah) says:

>There's a new firmware release that enables "Allison Movies" in the upcoming
>software.  You'll be able to capture in grayscale, 80x50 frames from video
>at 30 frames per second.  Frame editing and splicing, as well as transitions,
>are among the planned features in Allison 2.0.  A 16-palette color mode was
>also mentioned at the AGS conference.

I understand that the older board was incompatible with the RamFAST...will
this be corrected in the new firmware? (to anyone who knows)
-- 
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toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca       |  "Your god drinks...p-p-peach nectar!"
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From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: rSounds -- How to play them?
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:31:12 GMT

In article <m0nG2II-0000WuC@crash.cts.com> kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan) writes:
> > From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
> > To prevent stupid mistakes like that, I've demanded that I get to edit the
> > editor's editing.
> 
> > inCider/A+. Maybe I'm over sensitive, but after getting a flame here the
> 
> Good for you. The fewer mistakes in a national publication the better.
                                        ^^^^^^^^

Shouldn't that be "international"?  Hence, mistakes take on an even
greater importance.  I can buy Incider/A+ at newsstands in New
Zealand, albeit a few months late (I think the most recent issue was
November 1992).
-- 
David Empson

Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand