From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: MORE POLITICS! Re: PC, Redneck President, and other bad news
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:40:32 GMT

In article <jayson.049c@tbag.tscs.com> jayson@tbag.tscs.com (Jayson Phillips) writes:
>5 Nov 92 17:52:26 EST x90wardell@gw.wmich.edu writes:
> 
>[intelligent comments by Dave Haynie deleted]
> 
>>       Um, hate to tell you this, but even the press agrees that
>>Bush was one of the most intelligent presidents we have ever had.  
> 
>Bush is a sly dog, I'll give him that.  Heck, he fooled nearly the whole
>country into going to war.  Although he did have a lot of help.

You'll have a very hard time, Jayson, of detailing how going to war with 
Iraq was a mistake.
                   
The United States does not have enough oil reserves to be self-reliant.
It was an opportunity to free a cou
The Coalition was able to destroy a significant portion of Iraq's equipment,
such as armor, and rid the already pathetic air force to Iran.
George Bush organized a world-wide, unifying effort.
For once, most of the Arabs were aligned..not against Israel.
The Coalition destroy much of Iraq's chemical and biological weapons.
The Coalition crippled Iraq's progress to develop nuclear weapons.
The Patriot missile showed success under conditions for which it was not design
d.
All the military hardware and training which the Liberals for years griped abou
was definitely shown to work *well*.
It boosted American's morale about their country.  Americans were glad for once
to kick the ass of some tin-horned crazy whose types for long thumbed their nos
at the US, saying isults about the US, etc.  This was true in 1986 in Lybia.
The free flow of oil at more market prices was allowed.
George Bush's Coalition enable the beginnings of Arab-Israeli peace talks, the
likes of which had not been seen in over a decade.
The United States now has more clout in protecting its interests in the world.
It finally put to rest the post-Vietnam sentiment of the military being evil,
etc. and the complex in America of the US being 'beaten'.
                                                         
Sigh, that is all I can think of at the moment.
 
>>Quayle is a different story but let's not kid ourselves.  Clinton is
>>no brain.  I don't see what caused people to vote for Clinton over
> 
>Well  Clinton  was  at  least  smart  enough to beat Bush.  And if somethin

That just prooves he can demogogue more than Bush.  And being a great president
has nothing to do with campaigning.

>happened  to  Clinton then Al Gore would make a hell of a lot better backup
>then Quayle would have made.  Some more intelligence shows through.

Yes, like Al Gore saying that the internal combustion engine is the greatest
threat to mankind, and that there should be NO offshore oil drilling in
United States AT ALL.  Now, how is *that* for oil self-reliance?
                                                                 
Face it, All Gore has gone over the DEEP END with this environmentalist crap.

>>Perot or Bush.
> 
>I  had  kind of hoped (dreamed) that Perot would make it but there are lots
>of  good  reasons  not  to  vote  for  Bush.  Try the fact that he's been a
>criminal  at  least  since  his days as head of CIA (if not longer) and the

And Clinton is a draft dodging, lying, womanizing, dope-smoking failed governor
from a tiny state ranked 49th in everything _but_ illiteracy, married to a weido
feminist wife he had to shut up during the campaign so she would not hurt his
election chances.
                 
Ie, please have even a smidgen of proof before you called the President a
criminal, ok?
             
>fact  that  he  has  no  feeling  or  respect  for human life what so ever.

And another one.  One might say that it is George Bush advocating Pro-Life,
not Clinton.  Please _follow_ _through_, Jayson, just like Clinton did 
with Gennifer Flowers
                 
>Iran/Contra  alone  should  be  enough  to  keep  him completely out of the

Do you even have ANY idea what the fuss was about wrt Iran/Contra?  The
Congress, in their infinite wisdom, decided not to fund the freedon-fighters
in Nicaragua to help them fight a *Communist dictatorship*.  The forbade it.
Now, overcharging sales to Iran is not illegal, just against the Presidents
foreign policy at the time.  However, any funneling of money from that to the
Contras *was* illegal.  Now, are you telling me George Bush saw to it that
the profits were sent to the Contras? That he did anyhting but support the
then-president, Ronald Reagan?
                              
>running.   The  fact  that  he's  also  mixed  up  with Noreaga, Iraqi arms
>build-up,  S&L  scandal,  and the fact that he undermined the Environmental
>Summit should be more than enough good reasons not to vote for Bush.

Your writing is so cliche'.  The claim that George Bush was 'mixed up'
with <such and such> is not worth commenting on.

>>       By the way, I am from the south too and I don't think Clinton
>>is a hillbilly by any means but he is certainly quite a few steps
>>from being worthy of being president.  But it is useless and irrelevant
> 
>Clinton  is  every  bit  as  worthy as any gov that has been this country's
>president.   And  he's  certainly  a lot more worthy than the grade B movie
>actor gov we used to have.

And that just goes to show you JUST how effective Ronald Reagan was.

And beleive you me - being governor of California like Reagan was is a hell
of a lot more qualifying that Arkansas, IMO.

>>to debate it now.  I think history will show thathe Americna people
>>made a grave mistake by electing Clinton.
> 
>History  has  already  shown that electing Reagan/Bush is the worst mistake
>the  American  people have ever made with the only possible exception being
>the that they elected Bush/Quayle as a follow up.

Oh, *PLEASE* tell me how _we_ _all_ _know_ that Reagan Bush was 'the worst mista
ke..' blah blah blah.  Don't you think there MIGHT be a reason why the past 
*12* years Republicans have held the Executive branch??  Heck, if George Bush
had won and there had been another, oh say, *30* years more of Republicans
as Presidents, you're the type, after a Democrat won after those 42 years would
say <Dan puts on his Dan Rather voice> "Yes, and this jsut shows how
the American people totally reject the past 42 years of Republicanism, blah blah"

>>                                               -Brad
>ObAdv: I'm the only one I know of who suggested/predicted the use of the
>       68EC020 in a low-end Amiga, (my A2200) :)

ObAd: What i nthe hell in an Amiga2200?

> Jay Phillips * Tampa Florida
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Dan Stephenson                                                 das9674@usl.edu  
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