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From: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Subject: dr who computer game
Reply-To: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 10 Jan 93 08:49:19 EST

-> It's available for European Amigas (See the big Amiga ads in Classic
-> Comics? - neet) so it should be ported to NTSC Amigas when it reaches
-> our shores - whenever that may be.

 Does anyone have info on when it will be available in NTSC?

Regards,
Dale Clayton
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:45:31 EST
From: Beaker <MXD120@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: Tardis Key

One of my friends has one, but he bought it at a convention.  Does anybody
know where I could get one, preferably mail order.  Thanks.

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From: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Subject: isbn update/new adventure
Reply-To: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 11 Jan 93 11:27:16 EST

Richard P. Kernin requested:

-> Entries Missing ISBNs:

-> Title                          Publisher  Lib. No.   ISBN
-> -----                          ---------  --------   ----
-> An Unearthly Child             Target     68         0-426-20144-2

   Note: This is the ISBN for Terrance Dicks' novelisation.  ^

-> K-9 and Company (Terence Dudley)    ?      ?         0-426-20309-7
-> Harry Sullivan's War (Ian Marter)   ?      ?         0-426-20250-3
-> Terror of the Vervoids         Target     125        0-426-20313-5
-> The Three Doctors              Target     64         0-426-11578-3
-> The Time Monster               Target     102        0-426-20221-X  *
-> The Two Doctors                Target     100        0-426-20201-5

-> The Ultimate Evil             Target
                ^^^^ Foe? ----------------------------> 0-426-20329-1

-> The War Games                  Target     70         0-426-20082-9
-> Time-Flight                    Target     74         0-426-19297-4
-> Warriors' Gate                 Target     71         0-426-20146-9
-> Mission to Magnus              Target     ??         0-426-20347-X  *

* It is not known to me if the "X" is correct or not.

Enjoy!

Regards,
Dale Clayton
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From: G.Roberts@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Graham Roberts)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Terminus out on video
Date: 11 Jan 93 11:14:37 GMT


The January Dr. Who video release has turned out to be Terminus,
second story in the Peter Davison Black Guardian trilogy. I was quite
surprised to see it on the shelves when I was expecting the Daemons.

So what happened to the Daemons release? Have BBC video realised that
releasing Daemons directly after its showing on BBC2 was not a good
idea. When will Silver Nemesis be released?

Graham
G.Roberts@uk.ac.ucl.cs
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From: bcr@cernapo.cern.ch (Bill Riemers)
Subject: Re: The Valeyard's TRUE goals
Organization: CERN, European Research Center for High Energy Physics
	<1993Jan8.164315.24061@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 21:55:02 GMT

>>>>> On Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:43:15 GMT, echristo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Elena A Christofides) said:
	Elena> Nntp-Posting-Host: top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu

	Elena> [Lots o'stuff deleted]

	Elena> I thought that the keeper of the matrix was ALSO a regeneration of the doctor?
	Elena> Obviously between the 6th and the Valeyard.

	Elena> Someone previously posted their explanation in which that is the case. This
	Elena> made sense because how else did the Valeyard get the key to the matrix?
	Elena> Unless he ALREADY had it from an earlier regeneration and no mention was made 
	Elena> of him stealing it?

	Elena> Elena


Actually, what I had suggested is that The Valyard was a projection
of The Keeper (alias: The Doctor) simmular to what we saw in "The
Planet of Spiders").  My main reason for suggesting this is simply
that I refuse to accept that The Doctor turns evil.  This explination
helps in inventing a hidden agenda in which this doesn't happen.

Ultimately there is not enough information so this can only be
resolved by a new episode or book.  Purhaps one of the fan clubs
that makes episodes will comeup with something?

                             Bill

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wondered where my dad went to at night.  Telepathy?  Right now you're
thinking that I'm talking crap.  So what can you tell me that I won't
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From: richs@cogs.sussex.ac.uk (Richard Salter)
Subject: Re: UK-GOLD Agenda
Organization: University of Sussex
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 10:50:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.095326.826@gdr.bath.ac.uk>, exxtjg@gdr.bath.ac.uk (T J Garratt) writes:
|> In the referenced article, G.Roberts@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Graham Roberts) writes:
|> >
|> >The big surprise for next week is that UK Gold will show The Genesis
|> >of the Daleks (according to both the Radio & TV Times). This will mean
|> >a jump to the Tom Baker era and the showing of a Dalek story.
|> >
|> 
|> ... I dont think you mean UK Gold here, as BBC2 are showing
|> Genesis of the Daleks from this Friday evening for 6 weeks -
|> or are UK gold showing it as well as BBC2?
|> 
|> 
|> Tony

Both BBC2 and UK GOLD are showing Genesis at the same time. Can't think 
why ("anything you can do" debate probably). However, the UK GOLD version
is only 4 episodes long! They've cut nearly an hour from a 3 hour story!
This is sacrelige on a grand scale and I'm just glad I don't get UK GOLD.
That's rubbish actually, I'd love to see all thoe Hartnell classics. Ho
hum. Still, I've got Genesis on video anyway so I can't be bothered to 
watch the TV version either. I wish they'd shown Full Circle, or something
else from TB's last season.

bye

Happy Halibut VI

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From: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Subject: the master
Reply-To: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:26:22 EST

-> Can someone tell me. Is The Master still alive or did he die in
-> "Trial of a Timelord"

 You'll see him again, in a later story.

dc
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From: ensalada@cats.ucsc.edu (Kevin Charles Rubio)
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Subject: Re: Celery
Date: 7 Jan 93 08:46:53 GMT
Reply-To: keeper@deeptht.armory.com
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu




Yes, the Doctor did take a bite from celery in `Castrovalva' but he
didn't stick it to his coat at that point.  It was at the very end of
that same story when he found one growing in the wild (rather too tall
for real celery, mind you) and stuck it.

I do recall him replacing the celery once, but can't say in which
story.  I assume that those who mention `The Visitation' are correct.

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From: alex.soto@analog.com
Subject: Re: The Doctor's Love Interest
Originator: soto@mystica
Organization: Analog Devices, Inc.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:12:20 GMT

>The "real" line was :
>Ian: "But you're one of us! You look like us! You talk like us..."
>Susan: "I was born in another time.. another world..."
>
I think Susan's line was actually:
Susan:  "I was born in another time...another place..."

Just being nitpicky.
	Mystic
(alex.soto@analog.com)

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From: xoanon@carina.unm.edu (timothy k istian soholt)
Subject: Re: Celery
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 19:06:32 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1igqltINN1s1@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> keeper@deeptht.armory.com writes:

>I do recall him replacing the celery once, but can't say in which
>story.  I assume that those who mention `The Visitation' are correct.
 
He may have done it in "The Visitation" as well, but he definitely
replaced it in "Enlightenment."

-- Tim Soholt (xoanon@carina.unm.edu)

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From: echristo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Elena A Christofides)
Subject: Re: The Valeyard's TRUE goals
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:43:15 GMT

[Lots o'stuff deleted]

I thought that the keeper of the matrix was ALSO a regeneration of the doctor?
Obviously between the 6th and the Valeyard.

Someone previously posted their explanation in which that is the case. This
made sense because how else did the Valeyard get the key to the matrix?
Unless he ALREADY had it from an earlier regeneration and no mention was made 
of him stealing it?

Elena
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From: rad@cix.compulink.co.uk (Cray Communications)
Subject: Re: Adventures in the 1800s
Reply-To: rad@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 10:36:00 +0000


Reign of Terror is 1794 (close).
Richard (who wanted to catch Steven out but couldnt :-)
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From: richs@cogs.sussex.ac.uk (Richard Salter)
Subject: Re: Adventures in the 1800s
Organization: University of Sussex
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 11:00:07 GMT

Thanks to all those who replied. I was thinking specifically of the 
Great Exhibition. I can't remember if the Doc's been there or not. It
strikes me as the sort of place he'd love to visit. It's my idea, hands
off. I've got some wonderful first hand material in the form of my 
great great grandfather's diary of this event and I'd love to work it 
into a story. Right, there goes another 300 hours or so of intensive
research and work.

Happy Halibut VIII

P.S. anyone wanting a copy of my last effort "Two's Company" can't have
one at the moment coz it's awful. Well, it's not that bad but it needs 
some work. It resurrects Morbius, involves all sorts of attacks on
Gallifrey by said megalomaniac and two Doctors. Oh no, two Doctors, I
can just tell you're gonna hate it........

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From: dsteinbe@nmsu.edu (David Steinberg)
Subject: HELP! (re: New Adventures)
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:09:05 GMT

Can anyone tell me how to get hold of these books?  I don't exactly
live in prime Dr. Who grounds (Las Cruces, NM); the only book I have
managed to find is Timewyrm:Genesis.  I want more...

Alternatively, if anyone has copies that they want to sell...

-David "ZZYZX" Steinberg- King of the ellipses
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From: sp@osf.org (Simon Patience)
Subject: Re: I answer the challenge of Simon Patience
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 09:19:57 GMT

In article <75P8wB2w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
> Fellow Liberal Simon Patience challenged: List all UK tele shows that makes it
>                                           over

I am not sure that I like being called a "Fellow Liberal", you can call me
a "liberal fellow" though, I don't mind that at all.

Simon.

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From: tjg01@thdhub.HomeDepot.COM (Terry J. Gardner)
Subject: Re: Celery
Organization: Home Depot USA, Inc.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:33:56 GMT

In article <Doug_Lewis.1bn8@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US> Doug_Lewis@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Doug Lewis) writes:

   In a message dated Fri 18 Dec 92 18:03, Vcz40@jester.usask.ca (perry Testem
   wrote:

    VT> I seem to remember reading an article about the vaunted sprig of
    VT> celery.
    VT> It went something like:

    VT>  The sprig first appeared in Castrovalva.
    VT>  It was replaced in (I think) Enlightenment.
    VT>  It was last seen in Androzani, where it failed to revive Peri.

    VT>  BUT...Castrovalva didn't exist (the Master created it), and the 
    VT>     setting for Enlightenment didn't exist (I'm not sure; I've
    VT>     never seen it), SO...
    VT>  the celery never existed, so of course it couldn't help Peri.

   The celery which you speak of is for the Doctor's health. He is allergic to
   a certain range of gases ( forgot which ) and the celery turns purple in
   the presence of those gases.

Peter Davison dislikes celery, and Mel Blanc hated carrots.


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From: bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu (GRUBB)
Subject: Re: The Valeyard's TRUE goals
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:21:38 GMT

There is some problem on understanding the Valeyard and I have found its source
In the first American Telecast the Master says in Ultimate Foe "The Valeyard 
is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your 
twelfth and final regeneration." {A friend's VCR and my own Audio recording
conferm the REGENERATION as does the 1989 American printing of both 
Ultimate Foe and the Doctor Who Programme Guide (Page 165)}
NOW here is where it gets messy.  My friend has two recordings of
Ultimate Foe; the reason is because he was missing some sceens due to
eratic starting times and kept the old version in case he messed up again.
The result he discovered that there are TWO versions of Ultimate Foe.  In
the later version the Master says "The Valeyard is an amalgamation of the
darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final 
incarnation."

So WHICH video version is Canon?  My program guide and book version of the
show say the first version is, but you are all sighting the second version.
Comments and solutions are welcome.
The Doctor Who Programme Guide is (C) 1989 and ISBN 0-426-20342-9
My Ultimate Foe cover is gone so I don't know what its ISBM number is.
From: Nick.Allan@f395.n634.z3.fidonet.org (Nick Allan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: The Master
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1993 21:35:00

Hi all
 
Can someone tell me. Is The Master still alive or did he die in
 "Trial of a Timelord"
 
Regards Nick

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From: echristo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Elena A Christofides)
Subject: Re: Looking for _Most Annoying War_
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:08:53 GMT

In article <79683@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt7529d@prism.gatech.EDU (Belgarion of Riva
, Overlord of the West) writes:
>I caught 2 parts of _The Most Annoying War_ and really enjoyed it. But that
>was almost 2 months ago and I haven't been able to find any others. Could
>someone please e-mail me as complete a copy as possible? Thanks!
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ditto.

THIS is what I was talking about....TMAW = The Most Annoying War!

PS
Triplicate postings????

Why is it that at a school of 60,000 students, my editor is the ONLY one
that f***s up as bad as it does?
Why does no one believe me?

Quote from Magnus on-line help..."I've NEVER heard of an editor doing that!!"

So, if my posts are screwed up or triplicate, etc...please tell me!

Elena
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From: S104374@UMRVMA.umr.edu
Subject: Re: Sci-Fi Channel, Doctor Who, The Prisoner
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:22:09 GMT
Organization: Univ of MO - Rolla

>Now, I saw half of one episode of The Prisoner, having never seen it before.
>I hear it's good, but I was pretty confused. The episode was something like
>The Lady called Death (not it, but close). Can someone fill me in on what the
>series`is about? (this is why I left the distribution open to the UK)
>
>Thanks.
>
>Tom

If I recall correctly, the basic idea of the Prisonier is that this guy
a spy of some sort, is being held on a secret base somewhere in england,
and #1 is trying to extract some information from him.  #2, of course,
always fails in procuring this info.  I believe there were only 12 episodes
made, and there was no "successful" conclusion.He "the Prisoner" did
escape once, but in attempting to accertain the location of the secret
base was recaptured.

                                        -=Road Warrior=-
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From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: Re: cheap videos from CBS/Fox...?
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 10:18:31 GMT

ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead) wrote:
>I've seen DW videos at my local Suncoast Video store for $14.95.  I was
>actually surprised to hear the the "real" price was $19.95.

I would think they are legally liable to sell them for $14.95 or be guilty
of false advertising. I won't pretend to know what I'm talking about though.

Tom
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From: danaf@bray1b.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Subject: Re: Dalek can climb
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 01:16:21 GMT

In article <1992Dec27.165900.1@indyvax.iupui.edu>, ecohn@indyvax.iupui.edu writes:
|> In article <alien.0224@acheron.amigans.gen.nz>, alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith) writes:
|> > In article <9212182050.aa10558@macbeth.ocpt.ccur.com> hartnett@ocpt.ccur.com (Robert Sean Hartnett) writes:
|> >>       How many scenes like that have in Who have made such a
|> >>lasting impression on you?
|> 
|> Sixth Doctor stuff:

For sheer "neet" value, how about the opening to the Trial? 

Probably blew their entire budget on that one...

|> Ellen - the Crime Doctor
|> aka Ellen G. Cohn
|>     ecohn@indyvax.iupui.edu

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From: ensalada@cats.ucsc.edu (Kevin Charles Rubio)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: The Master
Date: 5 Jan 93 05:36:26 GMT
Reply-To: keeper@deeptht.armory.com
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


In article <726186871.AA09573@csource.oz.au> Nick.Allan@f395.n634.z3.fidonet.org (Nick Allan) writes:
>Can someone tell me. Is The Master still alive or did he die in
> "Trial of a Timelord"

He appears in the last Doctor Who story, `Survival', albeit in a new
costume -- entirely silk -- and with the actor, Anthony Ainley, wearing
a real beard instead of a paste-on.

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From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: The Watcher's Origin
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:14:39 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls


Genius is not a lost art after all....

In article <1351@dsbc.icl.co.uk>, David Owen <dro@dsbc.icl.co.uk> writes:
> Following the recent discussion of the Doctor's regenerations, I thought
> I'd add my views on The Watcher.
> 
> In Logoplois, one of the consequences of the Master's tampering with
> the universe was that the Causal Nexus was affected; meaning that the laws
> of cause and effect began to break down. Thus, when the Doctor saw the
> Watcher, he knew both 
> 
> a) That he was near his regeneration
> and
> b) That something was seriously wrong with the Universe.
> 
> Thus, the Watcher was not a product of the Doctor's subconcious, the TARDIS,
> of the Time Lords, but simply his fifth body, which sprang in to being before
> it was required because cause and effect was breaking down.
> 
> Well that's how I always understood it. Any views or evidence for or against
> gladly received.
> 
> Dave.
> 
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I love it!   Great explanation!  Never thought of that myself.  

Wicked.  

Steven.K.Manfred

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From: chips@eskimo.com (:crp:)
Subject: Leena
Organization: >>> Eskimo North (206)-FOR-EVER <<<
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:57:53 GMT

Is Leena human or another type of humanoid? From the show that introduced
her I thought she was a type of humanoid whose technology regressed since
the time of a crash of several astronauts and her real time was around
5000 bc earth time. I did not see the show where the Doctor originally meets
the astronauts decendents.		Thanks.

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From: richs@cogs.sussex.ac.uk (Richard Salter)
Subject: Re: UK GOLD shows Dominators not Genesis
Organization: University of Sussex
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:12:44 GMT

In article <3367@ucl-cs.uucp>, G.Roberts@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Graham Roberts) writes:
|> 
|> Well now we know....
|> UK Gold is showing the four episode story The Dominators from today
|> (Tuesday) until Friday. So much for the Radio/TV Times listings
|> claiming Genesis of the Daleks in four episodes!! 
|> 
|> Clearly, whoever puts together the program listings got it wrong and
|> muddled BBC2 with UK GOLD - if Beeb 2 is showing Genesis then so must
|> everyone else!! Interesting that both the Radio and TV Times have the
|> same mistake though.
|> 
|> Graham
|> G.Roberts@uk.ac.ucl.cs

Now that's interesting. I was convinced that UK GOLD were trying to
undermine the BBC by springing Genesis on us at the same time. No
wonder there was the four episodes rather than six problem.

Thanks for the explanation Graham, I wonder who was responsible for
giving out the UK GOLD listings to the TV magazines?

Happy Halibut XI