HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: greve@rs1.thch.uni-bonn.de (Thomas Greve)
Subject: Re: how best add 2'nd disk?
Organization: University of Bonn, phys. Chemistry
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:42:18 GMT

In article <11DEC92.16132316@edge1.pfc.mit.edu> horne@edge1.pfc.mit.edu writes:
>
>	Basic Question -- How add a new disk?
>
>Disk is partitioned C: (60 M, FAT)  D:(40M,FAT)  E: (19 M, HPFS).
C is a primary partition, D and E are in one extended partition. If
you create a primary partition on the 2nd drive, it will become D, as
drive letters are assigned for primary partitions first. If you create
an extended partition on the 2nd drive, it will contain the drives F
and ff. If you cant create an extended partition, create a primary
partition of 1Meg first, create the logical partition next and remove
the primary partition then. Maybe you can increase the size of your
extended partition afterwards...


-- 
				- Thomas

   greve@rs1.thch.uni-bonn.de
   unt145@dbnrhrz1
From: samiam@netcom.com (Scott Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Installing Nov PDK
Date: 17 Dec 92 05:43:18 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

> installation of SDK compoents (paraphrased)

The CD ROM is basically a grab bag of various programs and text. There is
a (proportedly) organized install command file. Each component seems to have
its own quirks, and in some cases (win 3.1 support) you have to write the 
bloody thing out to floppies first ! (vs off CD install). Wait till the CD
comes, then ask us case by case.

                                           [sam]
-- 
Scott A. Moore [SAM]  | "Cash is more 
samiam@netcom.com     | important than your 
Santa Cruz, CA USA    | mother"
408-423-1624          | Allan Shugart - CEO Segate Corp.
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From: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Have I been hosed?
Date: 15 Dec 92 02:23:50 GMT
Reply-To: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, ON (613) 547-5066
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi everyone:

I recently spent $40 for a serial upgrade chip (yes, I know I was over-
priced, and I made a point of mentioning this to the retailer.  He made
it quite clear that he could care less -- oh well, I'll never shop at
Altair again).  I specifically asked for the 16550AFN chip (3 times), I 
was given the 16550AN chip.

Not one to argue with such a highly skilled technician ;-) , I assumed 
that the chip was one and the same and installed it in my system.

I am having a couple problems, however.  I am trying to take advantage of 
this chip under OS/2, yet when I use the MODE command on it, as in:

MODE COM1:19200,N,8,1,,TO=OFF [...] BUFFER=ON (or BUFFER=AUTO)

My system responds, "BUFFER parameter not supported by this serial 
device".  Strange.  Why!?

Another thing is that I ran the OS/2 tweaked version of Ray Gwinn's
X00 Fossil driver -- and in the loading message it displayed something
to the effect of "It is an 8250 or 16450 chip."

SO -- have I been hosed for an upgrade chip that isn't an upgrade chip?
Why does everyone talk about the AFN chip but I've never seen the AN
chip mentioned?

Why can't I get the BUFFER parameter to work!  :-(

Thanks in advance...

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: hartzman@kilroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Les Hartzman)
Subject: ATIULTRA.ZIP:  Has anyone tried them??
Followup-To: hartzman@kilroy.jpl.nasa.gov
Keywords: ati ultra, atiultra.zip
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:49:12 GMT

HELP!!

I'm being held hostage by an ATI Graphics Ultra +!  I'm using an NEC 4FG
and I've tried to use the PM driver that comes with the ATI card.  Actually,
I've tried to use BOTH the 640x480 and the 800x600 drivers.  Both cause the
system to die as the STARTUP.CMD file is being executed.

Since the card's install program does not show an NEC 4FG, I selected the
'custom' option for the monitor.  I told it it could use 640x480 72Hz,
800x600 72Hz, and 1024x768 87Hz (8514).  On bootup without their driver, I get
2 1/2 mini-desktops on the screen, very fuzzy and unuseable.  BUT, I went
ahead and put the full screen DOS box prompt in the middle of the desktop so
I was able to get to it and become 1 unified desktop!

When I tried to do an SVGA ON, all I got was snow on bootup.  Thanks goodness
for SHIFTRUN; I was able to run SVGA OFF and delete the SVGADATA.PMI file and
return to whence I'd come.

I just saw the file ATIULTRA.ZIP on hobbes and I grabbed it.  But, before I
go through the pain of trying it, can anyone tell me if they have successfully
installed these drivers OR the ATI drivers????

If anyone can help, I'd really appreciate it.  Thanks in advance.



Les


-- 
Les Hartzman                hartzman@kilroy.jpl.nasa.gov
Jet Propulsion Laboratory   M/S 238-528    (818) 354-5964
4800 Oak Grove Dr., Pasadena,  CA.  91109
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: uucp programs for Os/2 2.0, Trident 32bit drivers,
Keywords: uucp help info program
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:05:26 GMT

Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>Uhh....the 32-bit drivers *are* seamless. Did you install the WinOS/2 drivers,

What is meant by "seamless" in the context of OS/2?
-- 
heiser@world.std.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Cirrus VGA accelerator and OS/2 (a godd combination?)
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:54:26 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.144606.3420@odin.diku.dk> spring@diku.dk (Jesper Honig Spring) writes:
>  At the local hardware dealer I was told that the Cirrus Windows Accelerator
>card was a good option if running OS/2. I have tried the card. It works OK,
>but the only problem I have experienced is that the actual windows size is
>smaller running (graphic mode) 800x600 than 640x480. In text mode there is
>no difference in window size.  In graphics mode (800x600) there is an edge
>all around the screen - about 1 centimeter. Can anyone outthere tell me if 
>I should invest in this card. Is the Cirrus a well-known product. I have 
>noticed that it is very easy to get for example TSeng drivers on ftp-sites. 
>I haven't found any for the Cirrus. Does this mean that I souldn't buy 
>this card?

Cirrus is now listed in various lists as supporting OS/2.  (They
apparently did the chipset in the ThinkPad 700C, and a 256 color
640x480 driver for that machine comes with the Service Pak.)

I would contact them directly, however, and ask about their other
products.  I'm working on a new SuperVGA list for the FAQ List (there
have been some additions), but that's also good reading, too.

-- 
Timothy F. Sipples      | Read the OS/2 FAQ List 2.0h, available from
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/info
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]
From: lauer@mpi-sb.mpg.de (Thomas Lauer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Screen savers
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:49:23 GMT
Reply-To: lauer@mpi-sb.mpg.de
Organization: Max-Planck Institut fuer Informatik

In article 35G@knot.ccs.queensu.ca, calvert@QueensU.CA (John Calvert) writes:
>I only gave yowza a quick demo, but I had a lot problems with it.
>
I got yowza from a friend. I unziped all files in a directory
and start it with a Doubleclick.  Then Yowza asked me to configure it. 
I do so!

To unforce configuration I put some options in the parameter line
of the Yowza Icon. (/T180 = 3 Minutes and /N = No dialog)
Then I made a reference in the startup folder and all things work
properly.

If you are searching it via ftp, try xarchie. It tells me the following
sides:

  nz20.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de   -->   /pub/os2/os2_20/pmutil/yowza.zip
  rusmv1.rus.uni-stuttgart.de -->  /soft/os2/unsorted.new/yowza.zip
  ftp.germany.eu.net --> /newsarchive/comp.binaries.os2/volume15/yowza/
  van-bc.wimsey.bc.ca --> /pub/os2/misc/yowza.zip
  iskut.ucs.ubc.ca --> /pub/os2/shadow/new/yowza.zip

 -thomas
From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Which Tape Drive for OS/2?
Date: 18 Dec 1992 21:10:09 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <1992Dec17.231529.23670@a.cs.okstate.edu> teague@a.cs.okstate.edu (Keith Teague) writes:
>Does anybody have any further info on getting the Irwin Accutrac drive and
>EZtape for PM to work with the latest (GA+CSD) release of OS/2. It fails
>to operate correctly for me using either the latest beta (11/92 PDK) and
>the GA+CSD release of OS/2.

What kind of problems? I'm running an Accutrak 250 just fine, on a vanilla
XR06055 level system. I'm using the floppy controller (there's a 4100A in my
future, I hope; it'd be nice to have two floppy drives again!), and EZTape/PM
version 3.1. (Not 3.01.)
-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
 "Brought to you by the letters O, S, and by the number 2." -- Mike Levis
From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 NOT 32 Bit?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 14:21:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, lotozo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William A Lotozo) says:

>I have heard some people claim that OS/2 is not a 32 bit operating system
>but actually a 16 bit os running a 32 bit os emulation.  Is this so? 
>I thought that if anything it was a true 32 bit os with a 16 bit emulation
>for backwards compatability to os/2 1.x programs.
>
>

I believe the hpfs driver is 16 bit allong with the pre service pack 
graphics engine.  The work place shell and most of the base system are in 32
bit code.
-- 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: zwanenbu@nlzcl.decnet.philips.nl (Godwin Zwanenburg)
Subject: memory monitor for os2
Organization: Centre for Manufacturing Technology
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:12:19 GMT


I am looking for a (PD) program that can tell me how much memory is used on my
decicated LANmanager 2.1 server. The server runs OS/2 1.3.

If someone has one, can he mail it to me (UU-encoded) or point me to a email
server

Thanks in advance 

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sangercd@nextnet.csus.edu (Carl D. Sanger)
Subject: Re: LVPCUG OS/2 SIG Meeting
Organization: California State University Sacramento
Distribution: comp.os.os2.misc
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:30:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.163044.12934@nevada.edu> karu@nevada.edu (NARANAPITI KARUNARATNE) writes:
>Las Vegas PC Users' Group's OS/2 SIG meets third Thursday of
>every month.  This is now the second largest SIG of the
>LVPCUG which has over 750 members.
>
Just curious, what's the largest SIG of the LVPCUG?


-- 
Carl Sanger				|| sangercd@csus.edu
California State University, Sacramento
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: TW.FY4@isumvs.iastate.edu (Timothy I Miller)
Subject: Some info on the PDK, please
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:46:03 GMT

Hello, everybody, I have a few questions about the OS/2 PDK
(November version):

1)  What is the Action Media II control driver?  Is it sort of like
Apple Quicktime?  And if it is, what's that?  The way I understand
it, it will allow people to have very good animation on the desktop,
or something like that.

2)  What all has to be installed from the CD-ROM in order to write a
program in C?  There is the C/C++ set/2, the CSD for C Set/2, the
developers toolit, WorkFrame/2, and a few other programs.  I'm not
sure what all to install, so any advice would be helpful...

3)  There is the C/C++ Set/2 stuff in the PDK, but on my CD, there
was a little sticker saying that the C++ USL Class libs are
available separately.  Does this mean that I can't program in C++?

Thanks for all the help, and I'm sorry if these questions are a
little naive.

Timothy Miller
From: harvey@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1? (Why it may cost) READ THIS!!
Date: 14 Dec 92 09:48:03 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <62740@mimsy.umd.edu>, pr@umiacs.umd.edu (Jesus M. Rodriguez) writes:
> 
> I am going to post a very stupid question but I have been reading a lot about
> OS/2 2.1.  Is OS/2 2.1 going to be another upgrade?  Will it be shrink wrapped?
> I am assuming that IBM hasn't changed their policy of FREE upgrades :-)
> 
> 
> Jesus M. Rodriguez
> pr@umiacs.umd.edu
> 
> 
Sorry if someone has posted this information already but I was speaking to our
local IBM person on friday (11/12/92). She said that the reason that OS/2 2.1
has been delayed is because there is a fight going on between IBM and
microsoft. Basically microsoft is trying to force IBM to charge for the next
update because they recon that in moving to 3.1 code they can charge more.

This stinks but IBM are trying to get it out for a media charge only.

Mark Harvey


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mikel@networx.com (Mike Lempriere)
Subject: Re: Desktop gone after restoring system from tape
Organization: NetWorx
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1992 17:46:23 GMT

: 	I have been using GTAR to backup my system from DOS by
: 	copying the entire drive contents. Well I finally had
: 	an opportunity to use my tapes to restore my system
: 	due to some unrelated problems. The problem is that
: 	OS/2 does not seem to have restored properly.. From
: 	what I can see all my hidden files returned and my os/2
: 	directory is intact, but my desktop refuses to come up.
: 	When I boot OS/2 now, it all boots ok but when the desktop
: 	begins to paint itself I get the background color and the
: 	clock and thats it, no icons, no menus, no nothing?? Can
: 	I recover from this without reinstalling OS/2..
[.sig deleted]

If you had watched your backup listing carefully, you would probably
have seen a message about "can't backup \OS2\OS2SYS.INI -- file in use"
and another for "\OS2\OS2.INI".  (I think those are the names, just do
a "DIR *.INI" in \OS2.)  The WPS keeps these files open at all times,
with exclusive access.  This means backup utilities cannot get at them.

There are several public domain utilities to get at these files
available by anonymous ftp from hobbes (128.123.35.151).  These
programs will help you avoid future occurances of this problem by
facilitating backups of the .INI files.  While you're at it, be sure
to grab the latest UNZIP from the archivers directory, as the one
used on most of the files on hobbes is very new, and not compatible
with older copies.  Also be sure to get a copy of the FAQ.

Unfortunately, now that they're gone, they're gone.  You can use
Alt-Shift-F1 at bootup (I think) to give you a brand new set of files.
This will bring your system up ass if it were a brand new install.

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From: mike@ulinf0.unil.ch (Michael Bloch)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2
Subject: WinOS2 driver for the IAA display card
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:02:08 GMT
Organization: HEC, University of Lausanne, Switzerland

I would like to understand why there is no driver for WinOS2 using
the IBM IAA Display Adapter. This is a high-end (and very expensive)
display card (1600x1200) that we use with the IBM 8508 19" b&w screens.

There is an OS/2 2.0 driver that works perfectly but nothing for WINOS2. We
have to use the VGA resolution which is not the best on a 19" screen :-(

Has anyone found a workaround ?
Any reaction from an IBMer (like a release date for this driver :-))

Regards, Michael

-- 
Michael Bloch, Research Assistant               Internet : mike@ulinf0.unil.ch
University of Lausanne, Switzerland		BIX ID   : astolfi

If I have seen farther, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants - I. Newton
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: Misc OS/2 questions (especially CSD installation)
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:16:46 GMT

Brian J Ross (bross@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA) wrote:


> I just installed OS/2, level XR02000. So far, I'm impressed with the
> system, and most of my DOS and Windows programs have ran without problems.
> Exceptions: Falcon 3.0 won't run, nor will some Windows 3.1 programs. Also,
> MS Word 2.0 for Windows has some quirks, due to the reduced colours available
> with the current video driver I'm using.

Win 3.1 support is due next month-ish...

> However, the documentation with it is totally inadequate and very disappointing.
> The online help is marginally helpful.  I would have been totally stuck during
> installation if not for the FAQ file on this newsgroup! I have the following 
> questions:

> 1. How do I add directory paths to the emulated DOS path? 

In AUTOEXEC.BAT of course :-)

> 3. Is there a good OS 2 reference book available?

There are many books on OS/2 around. I just got my CDROM drive and the PDK
and the 3 OS/2 programming volumes are awesome. The PM volume (II) is 31
chapters and the first 3 take up 70 pages (I started printing and gave up
:-) I don't think I'll ever need to buy a printed OS/2 book with this kind
of stuff..

> 4. (most pressing) I copied the current CSD files. However, they do not
>    fit on 1.4 Meg diskettes (they're 1.47 Megs each). The ".dsk" converter
>    program, however, seems to require that I use different disks for
>    unpacking these patches. (This seems utterly ridiculous, but I can't 
>    find anything contrary in the documentation). Is there a fix for this?

That is the story. The .dsk files are disk images including format info,
FAT's, the lot. You need to get them onto your hard disk and then use
loadfdsk to create the floppies from the images. People also report success
using 'dd' on Un*x boxes to dump the data straight to the floppies.

It's a pity that OS/2 provides no support for >1.4 meg on (so-called)
1.4meg diskettes. With FDREAD under DOS, you can go to 82 trakcs and
extra sectors too and get up to 1.76MB on a disk. I can't see why IBM chose
not to include such support. We are intelligent to realise that if we use
such disks, other people won't be able to use the disks (unless they run
FDREAD under DOS lets say) and take care. They claim a DOS better than DOS
but in some areas I feel they could have made it even better!

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: IBM won't accept Internet problem reports any more
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:58:07 GMT

Don Loflin (dll@ut-emx.uucp) wrote:

> It's pretty easy -- just take the CIS user number (e.g. 76517, 1753), stick
> a period in place of the comma and space.  That's the username, then just
> send to username@compuserve.com.  For example 76517.1753@compuserve.com
> (that's my CIS address from the Internet,BTW).

But aren't bugs reported in a FORUM and not by mail?

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
From: enk2@po.cwru.edu (Erik Kovach)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Boot Manager: Does any one have a compatibility list?
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:15:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62711.student.cwru.edu

In article <1992Dec12.192416.9499@ichips.intel.com> jburns@pdxgp1 (John Justin Burns Jr.) writes:
>I have been using the Boot Manager with a variety of OSs.  I know that it
>works with DOS v4.01, DOS v5.0, MS OS/2 SE v1.3, and surprise-surprise IBM
>OS/2 v2.0.  What I would like to know is what else it works with, and more
>important, what it does not work with?  Were there any changes in the Boot
>Manager in the SP?

I have heard of problems with Mach (unix), but IBM says AIX works fine.
From: Ron.McLeod@ttlg.UUCP (Ron McLeod)
Sender: postmaster@ttlg.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Diamond OS/2 Drivers (some info)
Date: 18 Dec 92  12:00:39 mst

G'Day Don,

In a message on <Dec 11 18:36>, you wrote:

 DAL> They *do not* give *any* details about the models of cards the 
 DAL> drivers will support ie Stealth/24X/Speedstar

I've been calling their BBS in hopes of seeing OS/2 drivers for some time now with no luck.  But users have long memories, I hope these people get the message! 
 * Origin: Access Network OS/2 BBS (42:100/24)
From: 32coulter@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: IBM, MS, and the Borg
Date: 13 Dec 92 18:55:58 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University


Just a silly question:

Why is the January/February release of the OS/2 refresh being dubbed the
"Borg" release?  Someone's signature had something like the following:

We are Microsoft.
Unix is irrelevant.
OS/2 is irrelevant.
Openness is futile.
Prepart to be assimilated.

Could I conclude that the Jan/Feb release is intended to be the Starfleet
Federation's OS/2 attack against the Microsoft Borg?  Especially since
MS intends to assimilate all forms of software into one Microsoft species?

-- James --
32coulter@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: dabl2@nlm.nih.gov (Don A.B. Lindbergh)
Subject: Diamond OS/2 Drivers (some info)
Organization: National Library of Medicine
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 18:36:48 GMT

I just got off the phone with Diamond (408-736-2000)
they now have specific phone menu choice for os/2 driver information,
which is encouraging I guess.  (choose tech support to get to it)
Anyway, today's message says they have not yet received the drivers from s3
and as soon as they do, they will post them to the bbs (hopefully they will
'tweak' them first as I'm sure the 'raw' drivers won't work right).
Anyway, there is at least official acknowledgement of drivers for OS/2...

I still agree with some others about Diamond as a company though.  They suck.
They have been idiots so far about information and support for their cards
under OS/2.

They *do not* give *any* details about the models of cards the drivers will
support ie Stealth/24X/Speedstar

--Don Lindbergh
dabl2@lhc.nlm.nih.gov
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc