HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: suehiro@kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp (SUEHIRO Kenji)
Subject: Re: [Objection] [CFD/CFA] mvgrp fj.lang => fj.comp.lang
Organization: Dept. of Information Science, Kyoto University, JAPAN
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 07:43:57 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.163624.15780@nntp.csl.sony.co.jp>,
	kono@csl.sony.co.jp (Shinji Kono) says:
>
> fj.comp.lang.* $@$NJ}$,L>A0$H$7$F$OE,@Z$J$N$OG'$a$k$o$1$G$9$h$M!#(J

$@$$$$$(!#(J

fj.comp.lang.* $@$NJ}$,E,Ev$@$H;W$C$?$i(J Objection $@$J$s$+=P$5$J$$$h!#(J
$@$*4j$$$@$+$i2fED0z?e$O$d$a$F!#(J
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            TTT                         suehiro@kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
From: ogata@etl.go.jp (Ichiro Ogata)
Subject: Re: Objection [CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan]
Organization: Electrotechnical Lab.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 03:14:17 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.023117.11247@nntp.csl.sony.co.jp>
kono@csl.sony.co.jp writes:

>$BF|K\$K=;$s$G$$$kF|K\?M$N$?$a$N(BNG$B$8$c$J$$$s$@$+$i!"(Bfj.*$B$X$NE,@Z$J(Bcross
>post$B$J$s$F$N$bGO</$2$?OC$@(B....

$B$&!<$s!"KL@n$5$s$b$=$&$@$H;W$&$1$I!"$3$&Ds0F$9$k$3$H$GE,Ev$KBE6(E@$r8+(B
$B$$=P$5$;$h$&$H$7$?$s$@$1$I$M$'!#<B:]!"C/$G$b9%$-$J#N#G$K!"9%$-$J8@8l$G(B
$BEj9F$9$k$3$H$O!"C/$bK8$2$h$&$H$7$F$J$$$o$1$G$9$h$M!#$3$N;v<B$r6/D4$7$h(B
$B$&$H$7$?$@$1$J$s$@$1$I$J!#$^$?(B cross post $B$@$C$FC/$G$b9%$-$J$h$&$K$d$C(B
$B$F$$$$$o$1$G!"$3$l$5$($b6/@)$G$J$$!#(B

$B$@$C$F!"<B:]$KEj9F$r$d$a$5$;$kJ}K!$J$s$F!"$J$$$G$7$g$&!)(B

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$B$H$$$&86B'O@$"$/$^$G8G<9!"$J$N$+$J$!!)(B

$B<B:]!"<+J,>!<j$K(B control message $B$rEj9F$7B3$1$k?M$G$5$(5o$k$N$@$+$i!"(B
$B$I$s$JEj9F$r$7$?$C$F<+M3$J$3$H$O>ZL@$5$l$F$$$k$H;W$&$1$I(B:-)

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From: kuno@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp (Yasushi Kuno)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Why fj.life.XXXX undesirable? [English+Japanese]
Date: 27 Jul 92 06:06:20 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: GSSM Otsuka, Univ. of TSUKUBA, Tokyo, Japan

Hi, ...
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  $BDGLn$5$s$+$i!"!V(Jfj.life.XXXX$B$H$$$&%I%a%$%s$K$OH?BP$G$"$k!W$H$$(J
$B$&%U%)%m!<$rD:$-$^$7$?!#$=$&$$$&O@5D$,$"$C$?$3$H$O>5CN$7$F$$$^$9(J
$B$1$I!"@N$N$3$H$G$9$7FI$s$G$$$^$;$s$G$7$?!#$9$$$^$;$s$,!"$I$J$?$G(J
$B$b$$$$$G$9$+$iH?BPM}M3$rJ9$+$;$F$/$l$^$;$s$+(J? $B$"$H!"1Q8lFI<T$NJ}(J
$B$bCN$j$?$$$G$7$g$&$+$i!"F|K\8l$@$C$?$iK]Lu5v2D$r$D$1$FD:$1$k$H4r(J
$B$7$$$N$G$9$,!#$J$K$H$>!"$h$m$7$/$*4j$$$7$^$9(J _o_

    Mr. Shiino has declared that he is against the creation of
fj.life.XXX domains.  I know that such discussion were heled
some time ago, but I haven't read that.  Would someone please
explain the reason (perhaps in Japanese)?  And I'd be happy if
you give explicit permission to translate the article, for the
convenience of English-only readers.

							    $B5WLn(J
						    Yasushi Kuno
From: kuno@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp (Yasushi Kuno)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: Objection: fj.life.in-japan (Re: CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan) [English+Japanese]
Date: 27 Jul 92 05:55:05 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: GSSM Otsuka, Univ. of TSUKUBA, Tokyo, Japan

Hi, ...
$B5WLn$G$9!#(J

alceste@moliere.ihitsy.ihi.co.jp (Shiino Masayoshi) writes:
> $BH?BP$7$^$9!#(J
> $B?7$?$J%K%e!<%9%0%k!<%W%I%a%$%s(J fj.life. $B$r:n$k$K$O$b$C$H(J
> $B5DO@$r=E$M$kI,MW$,M-$j$^$9!#Kt!";d$O(J fj.life. $B%I%a%$%s$K(J
> $B$OH?BP$G$9!#(J
> No.
> More discussion is needed on new newsgroup domain "fj.life.".
> And. I am NO to fj.life. domain.

  I'd like to insist that intermediate domain name is not so
important.  Anyway, I have received your objection.  By the way,
would you say "YES" if the proposed name were "fj.living.
in-japan"?  I'm just curious...
  $BCf4V%I%a%$%sL>$OJL$K$=$s$J$K=EMW$8$c$J$$$H;W$&$s$G$9$1$I$M(J...
$B$H$b$+$/(JObjection$B$K$D$$$F$ON;2r$7$^$7$?!#$H$3$m$G!"(Jfj.living.
in-japan$B$G$"$l$PH?BP$5$l$J$$$s$G$9$+(J? $B;G$C$F$*$-$?$$(J...

						    Yasushi Kuno
							    $B5WLn(J
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
From: nao@jaist-east.ac.jp (Naoki HAMADA)
Subject: Re: CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan [Japanese]
Reply-To: nao@jaist-east.ac.jp
Organization: ME
	<MARKD.92Jul27125306@stallman.csl.sj.nec.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 05:13:05 GMT

In article <MARKD.92Jul27125306@stallman.csl.sj.nec.com> 
Mark Dyer $@$5$s(J:
>$@2<5-$N$h$&$K;d$,IMED$5$s$N8@MU$rDLLu$$$?$7$^$7$?!#!J:G(J$@8e$NJ8>O$K$A$g$C$H(J
>$@<+?H$,$J$$$s$@$1$I!%!%!%!K(J

  $@$I$&$b$"$j$,$H$&$4$6$$$^$9!#$o$?$7$N0U?^$7$F$$$k$H$3(J$@$m$O=<J,EA$o$C$F(J
$@$$$k$+$H;W$$$^$9!#(J

>McLane $@$5$s$,$b$&2?2s$+<+J,$OF|K\8l$,FI$a$J$$;v$r$O$C$-$j=q$$$?(J$@5-;v$r%]%9%H(J
>$@$7$F$$$k$H;W$$$^$9!#IMED$5$s$OJL$K0UCO0-$D$b$j$@$H7h$7$F;W$C$F$^$;$s$,(J,

  $@$($(!"JL$K0U(J$@CO0-$r$7$F$$$k$o$1$G$O$J$$$s$G$9!#F|K\8l$H1Q8l$H$GF1$8%K%e(J
$@%"%s%9$N5-;v$r=q$/$H$$$C$?7]Ev$O$A$g$C$H$o(J$@$?$7$K$O$G$-$J$$$N$G!"(J
fj.news.group $@$N<gMW$J;HMQ8@8l$G$"$kF|K\8l$G5-;v$r=q$-$^$7$?!#(J

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From: toshi@nml.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Toshio HORI)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: Objection [CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan] [Japanese+English]
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:50:02 GMT
	<1992Jul26.023048.14628@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp>
	<1992Jul26.030126.14810@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp>
	<1359@cbsws1.cbs.canon.co.jp>
	<1992Jul28.062746.8095@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp>
	<CLAUDE.92Jul28185346@toky
Organization: Nagao&Mitsuishi Lab., Dept. of Mechanical Engineering, Univ. of
	Tokyo, Japan.

$@$I$&$b!"KY!wElBg5!3#$G$9!#(J

In article <TSS.92Jul29174905@kikori89.uf.a.u-tokyo.ac.jp>,
	tss@a.u-tokyo.ac.jp (SASABE Tetsuro) writes:

tss>   $@7+$jJV$7$^$9$,!";d$O$=$b$=$b(J fj $@$G$N(J$@309q8l$NEj9F$r$[$H$s$I8+$?$3$H$,(J
tss> $@$"$j$^$;$s!#L5$+$C$?$b$N$r!V5$$K$H$a$J$+$C$?!W$H>!<j$K8@$$JQ$($J(J$@$$$G$/(J
tss> $@$@$5$$!#(J

$@$=$&$+$J$!!#$3$l$O3F<+$,FI$s$G$$$k%K%e!<%9!&%0%k!<%W$K$h$C$F0u>]$OJQ$o$C(J
$@$F$/$k(J$@$H;W$$$^$9$,!#:#G/$N#57n$K(J fj.rec.sports.basketball $@$,$G$-!"%"%a(J
$@%j%+$N%W%m!&%P%9%1%C%H$N%A%c%s%T%*%s(J$@$,7hDj$9$k$^$G!"$3$3$K$O%P!<%/%l%$(J
$@$+$i2?DL$b!J$[$H$s$I#1;n9g=*$kKh$K!K1Q8l$K$h$kEj9F$,$"$j$^$7$?!#KM(J$@<+?H!"(J
$@2?EY$+%U%)%m!<!?%j%W%i%$$7$?$7!"KM$NCN$j9g$$$b%a%$%k$r=P$7$F$^$7$?!JKM(J
$@$K!X$3$3$,$h$/$o$+$i$J$$(J$@$+$iF|K\8l$KLu$7$F$/$l!Y$J$I$H$*4j$$$b$5$l$^$7(J
$@$?(J:-p$@!K!#MhG/$N%7!<%:%s$,;O$^$C$?$i!"$^$?Ej9F$7$F$/$l$k(J$@$3$H$r4|BT$7$F(J
$@$k$N$G$9$,!%!%!%(J

$@!t$G$b!";n9g7k2L$r:G=i$K=q$$$F$+$i(J$@F~$l$F!"46A[=q$/$N$O;_$a$F$[$7$+$C(J
$@!t$?(J(^_^;;)

$@!X(Jfj $@$G309q8l$NEj9F$r$[$H$s$I8+$?$3$H$,$J$$!Y$H$$$&$N$O$"$/$^$G$b8D?M(J
$@$N9XFI%K%e!<%9!&%0(J$@%k!<%W$K$h$k$N$G$"$C$F!"$=$l$r!XL5$+$C$?!Y$J$I$H7kO@(J
$@$E$1$F$7$^$&$N$O%d%P%$$H;W$&$J!#(J

$@$^$!!"KM8D?M$N(J$@46A[$G$7$?!#(J

$@$G$O!#(J
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
From: kitagawa@will.ntt.jp (Masahiro Kitagawa)
Subject: Re: Tongue-twisters: was Re: NG for gaijin topics. (English)
Followup-To: fj.news.group
Organization: NTT Basic Research Labs., Tokyo, Japan
	<1992Jul23.170835.20386@nntp.csl.sony.co.jp>
Distribution: fj
Date: 24 Jul 1992 12:32:26 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.170835.20386@nntp.csl.sony.co.jp> kono@csl.sony.co.jp (Shinji Kono) writes:

 |news group$@$C$FC1$J$k(Jkeyword$@$8$c$J$$$h$M!#(J

 |Is it convenient for posters or readers? This is the criteria for
 |news group selection, nothing else.

 |Posting news groups are determined
 |not only by subject, but subject and expected reader also.

 |Troubles are coming from
 |isolation of the group rather than its existence.  I think fj.life.in-japan,
 |fj.life.foreigner or  fj.life.foreigner.* will help breaking isolation.

$@A4LLE*$K;Y;}$7$^$9!#;d$b(J$@!"$?$^$?$^F1$8$3$H$r0J2<$N5-;v$K=q$-$^$7$?!#(J
I totally support this view. I happend to express the same view in

Subject: Re: How to select News Groups

$@;d$N$OF|K\8l$@(J$@$1$@$C$?$s$G$9$,!"5L$5$s$,1QLu$rEj9F$7$F$/$@$5$$$^$7$?!#(J

Although my article was in Japanese, Mr. Masahiko Tachibana has kindly
translated it into English <1992Jul23.051941.5144@etl.go.jp>. Thank you.
--
MaSa					*--- **** ***-- *--* *-* *-*
Masahiro Kitagawa			$@KL@n(J $@>!9@(J	NTT$@4pAC8&5f=j(J
NTT Basic Research Labs.		kitagawa@will.NTT.JP
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
From: kuno@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp (Yasushi Kuno)
Subject: Re: CFV fj.life.in-japan [Japanese]
Organization: GSSM Otsuka, Univ. of TSUKUBA, Tokyo, Japan
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 08:43:09 GMT

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$B3Q$5$s(J:
> Objection $B$r=P$9$^$G$K$O!J$^$@!)!K;j$j$^$;$s$,$A$g$C$H<ALd$r$5$;$F2<(J
> $B$5$$!#(J

  $B$O$$$O$$!#(J

> life $B%I%a%$%s$N2DH]$K$D$$$F$N5DO@$O$I$N$h$&$J7kO@$K$J$C$?$N$G$7$g$&!#(J

  $B;d<+?H$O$3$N%0%k!<%W:n@.$K$*$$$F$O(Jlife$BO@5D$H$O4X$o$j$?$/$J$+$C(J
$B$?$N$G$9$,!"%"%s%1!<%H<h$C$?$i(Jfj.life.in-japan$B$,>!$C$?$N$G7k2L$H(J
$B$7$F4X$o$C$F$7$^$C$?$H$$$&$3$H$G$9!#=>$C$F!"(Jfj.life$B%5%V%I%a%$%s(J
$B$,$h$/$J$$$H$$$&M}M3$GEjI<$KGT$1$k$N$G$"$l$P$=$l$b;EJ}$J$$$H9M$((J
$B$F$$$^$9!#(J

>   $B;d$b!"(J fj.life $B$K$D$$$F$OH]DjE*$J46>p$r;}$C$F$$$^$9$,!"$9$G$K7hCe$7(J
> $B$?OC$7$G$"$l$P!"$"$-$i$a$F0z$C9~$_$^$9!#$=$&$G$J$1$l$P0l1~(J Objection 
> $B$r=P$7$F$b$$$$$+$J!)$H;W$C$F$$$^$9!#(J

  CFV$B$KBP$7$F$G$9$+(J? $B$J$<(Jlife$B$,$$$1$J$$$H;W$&$+!"$H$$$&DGLn$5$s(J
$B$NI=L@$b!"2OLn$5$s$N(Jlife$B$G$$$$$H;W$&!"$H$$$&I=L@$b$"$j$^$9$+$i!"(J
$BAPJ}$N<gD%$OJ,$+$j$^$9!#$G!"Jb$_4s$l$k$+$H$$$&$H$I$C$A$b$=$l0J>e(J
$B>y$kE@$b$J$5$=$&$G$9$h$M!<!#$G$9$+$i$3$l0J>e?JE8$7$J$1$l$PEjI<$K(J
$B$J$k$N$O<+A3$8$c$J$$$s$G$7$g$&$+(J?
  $B$3$l$+$i?7$7$$5DO@E@$,=P$FEjI<$,Aa2a$.$k$H$$$&;vBV$K$J$j$=$&$J(J
$B5$$O$"$s$^$j$7$J$$$N$G$9!#$;$a$F!"?7$7$$5DO@$,=P;O$a$F5DO@$,ITB-(J
$B$@$HJ,$+$C$F$+$i(JObjection$B$K$7$F$b$i$($J$$$G$7$g$&$+(J? $B8=$K0JA0(J
fj.living$B$,>!$C$F(Jfj.life$B$OGT$1$?$3$H$,$"$k$s$@$+$i!":#2s$bGT$1$k(J
$B$+$bCN$l$J$$$H3P8g$O$7$F$^$9!#(J

>   $B$9$$$^$;$s$,65$($F$$$?$@$1$J$$$G$7$g$&$+!)$?$@!"#N#G$N<q;]<+BN$K$O;?(J
> $B@.$J$N$G!"EL$K:n@.$rCY$i$;$k$N$OK\0U$G$O$J$$$3$H$rG0$N$?$aI=L@$7$F$*$-(J
> $B$^$9!#(J

  $B;d$N4uK>$H$7$F$O!"EjI<$K$J$C$F>!$F$P$=$l$G$$$$$7!"L>A0$,860x$G(J
$BGT$1$?$i$^$?(Jfj.living.in-japan$B$K$7$F(JCFA$B$+$i;O$a$k$N$,$$$$$+$J$"(J
$B$H;W$C$F$$$k$s$G$9$1$I!#;d<+?H$O(Jfj.life$B$G$b(Jfj.living$B$G$b$$$$$H$$(J
$B$&9M$($G$9$,!"%"%s%1!<%H$N7k2L$OB:=E$7$?$$$H;W$C$?$o$1$G$9!#(J

			$B$4M}2rD:$1$^$9(J?			    $B5WLn(J
From: kaneko@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU (Seiji Kaneko)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: Objection [CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan] [Japanese+English]
Date: 30 Jul 1992 02:15:14 GMT
Organization: international computer science institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: axiom.icsi.berkeley.edu

$B$+$M$3!w$R$?$A$G$9!#:Q$_$^$;$s!"D{@5!#(B
In article <KANEKO.92Jul29131200@axiom.icsi.Berkeley> kaneko@icsi.Berkeley.EDU (Seiji Kaneko) writes:
>$B$3$N>u67$G$O!"1Q8l$N%]%9%H$O3F#N#G$K?6$C$F%U%)%m!<$,$"$kH&$G$"$k!"(B
>$B$H$$$&IMED$5$s$N<gD%$NJ}$,$O$k$+$K:,5r$KK3$7$$!#IMED$5$s$NB&$KN)(B
       ^^^^ $B8M:j$5$s$[$+(B
>$B>Z$9$k@UG$$,$"$k$N$G$O$J$$$G$7$g$&$+!#(B

$B!t(B $B$3$N5DO@!"$b$&$5$9$,$K$&$s$G$$$k!#$+$i$a<j$G$J$/!"@'Hs$rD>@\5DO@(B
$B!t(B $B$7$^$;$s$+!#(B
-- 
Seiji Kaneko  kaneko@icsi.Berkeley.EDU,kaneko@sdl.hitachi.co.jp
.................................... 76270.2466@compuserve.com
From: kuno@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp (Yasushi Kuno)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan [Japanese]
Date: 29 Jul 92 05:01:12 GMT
Organization: GSSM Otsuka, Univ. of TSUKUBA, Tokyo, Japan

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nao@jaist-east.ac.jp (Naoki HAMADA) writes:
>   $B$"$H:{It$5$s$,$$$_$8$/$b;XE&$J$5$C$F$$$k$h$&$K!"1Q8l0J30$NF|K\8l$G$J(J
> $B$$8@8l$r$I$&<h$j07$&$+$H$$$&;v9`$K$D$$$FA4$/8!F$$5$l$F$$$J$$$N$OIT;W5D(J
> $B$K;W$$$^$9!#$_$J$5$s$I$N$h$&$K$*9M$($G$7$g$&!#(J

  $BA4$/8!F$$5$l$F$J$$$H$$$&$3$H$O$J$$$G$7$g$&!#;d$N5-21$G$O!V1Q8l(J
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		$B$H!"$*9M$($G$9!#(J:-)			    $B5WLn(J
From: ishikawa@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp (Chiaki Ishikawa)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan [Japanese]
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:45:49 GMT
	<NAO.92Jul27111222@mimo.jaist-east.ac.jp>
	<TSS.92Jul27191653@kikori89.uf.a.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
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	<1992Jul29.050112.17962@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp>
Reply-To: ishikawa@personal-media.co.jp
Organization: Personal Media Corp., Tokyo Japan
In-reply-to: kuno@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp's message of 29 Jul 92 05:00:58 GMT


In article <1992Jul29.050112.17962@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp> kuno@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp (Yasushi Kuno) writes:

>    $@5WLn$G$9!"(J

>    nao@jaist-east.ac.jp (Naoki HAMADA) writes:
>   >   $@$"$H:{It$5$s$,$$$_$8$/$b;XE&$J$5$C$F$$$k$h$&$K!"1Q8l0J30$N(J$@F|K\8l$G$J(J
>   > $@$$8@8l$r$I$&<h$j07$&$+$H$$$&;v9`$K$D$$$FA4$/8!F$$5$l$F$$$J$$$N$OIT;W5D(J
>   > $@$K;W$$$^(J$@$9!#$_$J$5$s$I$N$h$&$K$*9M$($G$7$g$&!#(J

>      $@A4$/8!F$$5$l$F$J$$$H$$$&$3$H$O$J$$$G$7$g$&!#;d$N5-21$G(J$@$O!V1Q8l(J
>    $@0J30$N8@8l$O$I$&$J$s$@!W!VJL$K!"1Q8l$K8B$i$:$I$s$J8@8l$G$bF1$8$h(J
>    $@$&$K4?7^$5$l$k$G$7(J$@$g$&!#1Q8l0J30$N8@8l$@$HFI$_=q$-$G$-$k?M$,$5$i(J
>    $@$K>/$J$$$N$O$7$+$?$J$$$@$m$&$1$I!W$H$$$&5DO@$,$"$C(J$@$?$H;W$$$^$9!#(J
	
$@;d$N$-$*$/$G$b!"$3$NLdBj$OJ}$,$D$$$F$$$?$H;W$o$l$^$9!#(JSantos $@$5$s$O(J 
Portugese(?)$@$,Jl(J$@9q8l$GF|K\8l$,$o$+$i$J$$$,$7$+$?$J$7$K(J survival $@$N<jCJ(J
$@$H$7$F1Q8l$r;H$C$F$$$k!"$"$k$$$O(J Magnus$@$5$s$G$7(J$@$?$+!"F1MM$K(J Iceland$@8l(J
$@$,Jl9q8l$@$,!"F|K\$G(Jsurvive$@$9$k$?$a$K$O1Q8l$7$+$J$$!"F1MM$J5DO@$,$"$j!"(J
$@C/$b1Q(J$@8l0J30$N8@8l$rH]Dj$O$7$F$$$J$$$O$:$G$9$,!"$?$@(J $@!vI,MW>e!v1Q8l$r(J
$@$D$+$&$H0lHV%3%_%e%K%1!<%7%g%s$N%A%c%s(J$@%9$,$*$*$$$H$$$&$3$H$G1Q8l$,$D$+(J
$@$o$l$F$$$k$@$1$@$H;W$$$^$9!#(J

$@;d$N0U8+$NItJ,$N1Q8l(J:

[Someone raised an issue of why non-English and non-Japanese language
postings are hardly seen and what to do with such languages.]

I think this issue has already been clearly setteled. If I recall
correctly, Santos mentioned (correct me if I am wrong) that he would
prefer Portugese, but English would be the only survival tool to talk
with local Japanese people, and there was also Magnus's posting which
stated the similar opinion although in his case his native tongue is
Icelandic (again, correct me if I am wrong). My understanding is that
nobody rejects non-English and non-Japanese language. It is only that
in the current environment, English seems to have the best chance of
widest communication (excluding Japanese of course) , and that is why
people are using English.


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From: shigeya@foretune.co.jp (Shigeya Suzuki)
Subject: Re: [Proposal] fj.{unix,os}.386bsd
Organization: Foretune Co., Ltd.  Tokyo Japan
	<1992Jul31.071459.485@nntp.csl.sony.co.jp>
Distribution: fj
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 08:31:07 GMT

>>>>> On 31 Jul 92 07:14:59 GMT, kono@csl.sony.co.jp (Shinji Kono) said:

Shinji> fj.unix.*$B$C$F;`$K$D$D$"$k(BNG$B$8$c$J$$$+$J!#@N$O(Bbsd42$B$H$+(Bbsd43$B$H$+$b(B
Shinji> $B$"$C$?$s$@$h$J!#$H$$$&$o$1$G!"(B
Shinji> 	fj.os.386bsd
Shinji> $B$+$J!#$?$@!"(B$B$\$/$O(B mach386 $B$r;H$C$F$$$k$N$G(B...
Shinji> 	fj.os.{mach386,linux,bsdi,sco,solaris}
Shinji> $B$H$+$$$C$7$g$K$G$-$k$N$b$$$$$H;W$$$^$9$1$I$M!#(B

$B$3$l$@$1:n$k$C$F$3$H(B$B$G$9$+!)(B

$B$=$3$^$G$$$i$J$$$H;W$$$^$9!#$I$A$i$+$C$F$$$&$H!"(Bpc-unix$B$N%0%k(B$B!<%W$,$H(B
$B$j$"$($:0l$D$"$k$3$H$,=EMW$@$H;W$&$1$I!#(B

$BJ,$1$k$[$I%H%i%R%C(B$B%/$J$$$H;W$&$H$$$&$N$,0l$D$H!"F@$K(Bbsdi/386bsd$B$K$D$$(B
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shigeya
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From: kono@csl.sony.co.jp (Shinji Kono)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: [Proposal] fj.{unix,os}.386bsd
Date: 31 Jul 92 07:14:59 GMT
Reply-To: kono@csl.sony.co.jp
Distribution: fj
Organization: Sony Computer Science Laboratory, Inc.

$@2OLn(J@CSL.Sony$@$G$9!#(J
In article <2714@tansei1.tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp> , 
	hideo@tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (KANNO Hideo) writes 
>  fj.{unix,os}.386bsd     Discussion on 386BSD.
>			  386BSD$@$K$D$$$F$N5DO@(J

fj.unix.*$@$C$F;`$K$D$D$"$k(JNG$@$8$c$J$$$+$J!#@N$O(Jbsd42$@$H$+(Jbsd43$@$H$+$b(J
$@$"$C$?$s$@$h$J!#$H$$$&$o$1$G!"(J
	fj.os.386bsd
$@$+$J!#$?$@!"$\$/$O(J mach386 $@$r;H$C$F$$$k$N$G(J...
	fj.os.{mach386,linux,bsdi,sco,solaris}
$@$H$+$$$C$7$g$K$G$-$k$N$b$$$$$H;W$$$^$9$1$I$M!#(J
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Sony Computer Science Laboratory, Inc,Japan
From: kono@csl.sony.co.jp (Shinji Kono)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: Objection: fj.life.in-japan (Re: CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan) [English+Japanese]
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:01:15 GMT
Reply-To: kono@csl.sony.co.jp
Distribution: fj
Organization: Sony Computer Science Laboratory, Inc.

$@2OLn(J@CSL.Sony$@$G$9!#$^$"!"$I$&$;EjI<$OI,MW$G$7$g$&$M!#(J

In article <1474@ihitgw.ihitsy.ihi.co.jp> , 
	alceste@moliere.ihitsy.ihi.co.jp (Shiino Masayoshi) writes 
>$@?7$?$J%K%e!<%9%0%k!<%W%I%a%$%s(J fj.life. $@$r:n$k$K$O$b$C$H(J
>$@5DO@$r=E$M$kI,MW$,M-$j$^$9!#(J

fj.life $@$K(J charter$@$r$D$1$k$H$9$l$P!"(J
fj.life.*
  $@!V8D?M$K$+$+$o$k$3$H!#@83h!"2HDm!"?M@8!"7r9/!"F|>o$NLdBj$J$I!W(J
   For support to individual lives including personal life,
   family, health, daily problems and etc.
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   fj.soc      rule$@$N$"$k(Jgroup$@$rBP>]$H$7$?;kE@(J
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fj.soc.religion $@$H(J fj.life.style$@$G$O<+$:$H0c$C$?;H$o$lJ}$K$J$k$G$7$g$&!#(J
fj.comp.* $@$H(J fj.life.with-computer $@$H$+$@$C$F$"$jF@$k$+$bCN$l$J$$!#(J

$@6qBNE*$K$J$K$r$5$9$N$+$H$$$&$H!"(Jfj.living$@$N$h$&$J695A$N@83h4XO"$NB>$K(J
fj.life.health fj.life.housing fj.life.in-japan $@$J$I$,F~$k$o$1$G$9!#(J
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>$@Kt!";d$O(J fj.life. $@%I%a%$%s$K$OH?BP$G$9!#(J

$@2?8N$G$7$g$&$M!#?M@8AjCL$@$+$i(J? fj.life.health fj.life.housing fj.life.in-japan 
$@$O?M@8AjCL$G(Jfj$@$K$O$J$8$^$J$$(J? $@$^$5$+!"$=$s$JM}M3$G$O$J$$$G$7$g$&$1$I!"(J
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From: saka@ulis.ac.jp (Tetsuo Sakaguchi)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Sorry for newgroup message
Date: 25 Jul 92 06:56:53 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Lib. & Info. Sci., Tsukuba Japan

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From: hideo@tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (KANNO Hideo)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: [Proposal] fj.{unix,os}.386bsd
Date: 31 Jul 92 01:54:52 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Computer Centre, University of Tokyo

In article <616@apricot.cradle.titech.ac.jp> nakamura@cradle.titech.ac.jp (Kazushi NAKAMURA) writes:
>From article <2714@tansei1.tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp>, by hideo@tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp
>(KANNO Hideo):
>| 386BSD $B$K$D$$$F$N%K%e!<%9%0%k!<%W$r?7@_$9$kDs0F$G$9!#(J

>|   fj.{unix,os}.386bsd     Discussion on 386BSD.
>|                         386BSD$B$K$D$$$F$N5DO@(J

>| 1.$BL>>N!J3,AX>e$I$3$KCV$/$+!K$O$I$&$9$k$+!)(J
>| 2.BSDI$B$r$O$8$a!"B>$N(J386/486$BMQ(JUNIX$B$O$I$&07$&$+!)(J

>$B$d$O$j!"(Jfj.os.bsd $B$7$+$J$$$G$7$g$&!*(J

$B$&!<$`!"(Jbsd$B$H$9$k$J$i!"(Jfj.unix.bsd$B$K$7$?$$5$$,$7$^$9!#(J

>2.$B$K4X$7$F$O(JSubject$B$K(J[BSDI]$B$H$+=q$1$P!"0l=o$K07$C$?$[$&$,J}$,NI$5$=$&$J(J
>$B5$$,$7$^$9!#$$$:$l$K$;$h(J386$B$K$3$@$o$k$3$H$O$J$$$H;W$$$^$9!#$R$g$C$H$9$k(J
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