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Date:         Sun, 27 Sep 1992 15:35:03 +0100
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Speeding
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  I've read these messages about how neat it is to exceed the speed
limit and fool the cops, and it seems motorists are pretty much the
same the world over. On the one hand, statistics indicate that
lowering the speed limits means decreasing the number of people who
are injured or killed on the highways.  On the other hand, it's
impossible to find a single driver who believes that he or she needs
to be told how fast to drive. They can handle it.  They know what
they're doing. It's only when they encounter the car that faces them
on the wrong side of the road, the child who runs out into the street,
the deer that suddenly appears out of nowhere, the inexplicably wet
and slippery street, that it occurs to them that maybe they were a bit
hasty. Then they're liable to kill themselves and other people.
From: rita@EFF.ORG (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
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Date: 30 Sep 92 16:49:22 GMT
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              92 8:27 am

> P.S. I am looking forward to meeting Karen, Karsten and Marilyn Garber this
> Friday for dinner at the Border Grill in Santa Monica - any wordslers in the
> LA area are welcome to join us!!

	And the rest of us will be expecting a full report!

Rita
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (61)
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 1) TP/UTP (Neal)

	Yippee!!  We're #1!  We're #1!  We're #1!

	Oh, OK, back to TP/UTP.  That's just baseball shorthand -- a TP is a
	triple play (three outs on one play, but you know that, right?).  A UTP
	is an unassisted triple play, wherein one defensive player accounts for
	all three outs all by himself.  That's a very rare event, having been
	done only 9 times in Major League history.  The most recent (first in
	either league since 1968, first in the National League since 1927) took
	place here in Pittsburgh on September 20, and I was in attendance at
	that game.

	FYI, two of the nine happened on CONSECUTIVE DAYS in 1927!!

	Also FYI, three of the four in the NL happened in Pittsburgh.  All four
	in the AL, plus the one in the World Series in 1920, involved the
	Cleveland Indians.

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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:03:42 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: test

>I figure all of the test messages came from teenagers.....unless they
>came from SantaClaus working on his addresshacking techniques.
>
>dan

Hee hee hee, Dan doesn't know a thing! Why, even *I* am past twenty.

tushar
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:22:17 CDT
From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      RE: i may have been sleeping
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>Can one issue anti-semitic statements and yet NOT be anti-semitic?
>
>Buckley says yes....I say:  hmm, depends.....

Well, Dan, when Buckley was asked if Nixon should have resigned because of
Watergate, he said no, he should have resigned because he was stupid.

Nuff said?

-abh
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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 22:56:13 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Blinking Lights

>reason to slow down. It's practically unamerican. I have personally
>traversed McMullen County on two wheels at 100mph, and on 4 wheels at 90.

>-abh

I sure would like to have seen you at 100 on two carrying your
trough.

:-]

-Mka
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Brownies and Kitchens and Sharing
Date: 28 Sep 1992 04:43:45 GMT
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In a previous article, dorisann@TENET.EDU (Doris Smith) says:

>
>Hmmm. If I knew just exactly *which* brownie recipe Nancy was talking
>about, I'd send it to Ruth myself.  The Ronin, I'm still working on a
>method to get my kitchen to you, however.
>BTW, I must have missed the post to which you are referring; did Nancy the
>Mild tell Ruth she had to come to Texas to get the recipe?
>Doris
Nope - just that neither of us has the $$$s to get to Texas to taste drive
the brownies down there. <darnitt>  And me, I don't take Putt too much
farther than I'm willing to take the bus back!  The poor beastie might hit
80, to reference another thread, but I'm not nuts enough to try to push the
dumb thing that hard.  Now my other's car, a '78 Bonneville, would probably
hit 100 without a hitch, if the body held together that long.:-) [the 
engine's perfect, but the body is for scrap]

Ruth

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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:15:00 GMT
From:         WERTSJ <WERTSJ%DIALOG@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Perotian quote
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This one had me laughing so hard I'm not sure if I can work
for the rest of the day.  In yesterday's new conference (such
as it was!), Perot said,

     "We will create a new political climate where the
      system does not attract ego-driven, power hungry
      people."

I couldn't decide whether to throw up or laugh, but, given a
choice, I generally choose laughter.

Jill
   (wertsj%dialog@mcimail.com)
From: bsinger@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bayla Singer)
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Date: 3 Oct 92 12:36:57 GMT
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I think there's a clue here.

Rashmi asked why wasn't -ggs advised of negative opinions earlier, and 
-abh says she'd told him she liked it.   

At least in my own case, my negative comments to -ggs were put in my
normal gentle initial tone, and he may not have recognized the intensity
of the underlying disapproval.  Without <being nice> in the pejorative
sense, most of us tend to express disapproval gently at first unless the 
offens is  hideously abhorrent, something -ggs is not really guilty of.

The pattern is that of (to use mself as example, not to identify an 
exclusive limitation) a parent who says 'it would be a good idea to 
clean up your room now' before resorting to 'clean up your room or
you forfeit the car keys, your allowance, and a future draft choice.'

[And then my son, bless him, says "*I'm* not the one raising my voice."]

--bayla



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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:40:35 EDT
From:         IBAILEYTW%1994B%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject:      loser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Marty,

     Get a life!  If you hand any common sense you would realized you can't
stand too close to a howitzer when it fires much less touch it.  The recoil
might kill you.  Maybe you should try it!  Personally it sounds to me like
you are refering to one of your favorite past times of "beating off", although
I'm sure that it isn't  quite 4 and one half inches, don't exagerate yourself
that much for the ladies.  They still think you are a loser!!!!  Go grab that
gun and charge the round.  Don't let the recoil hit you in the face loser!

                                    Country
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:57:54 MED
From:         "(Graham Toal)" <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
Subject:      re: me@MCONNECT.TESTING.IT
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of course, the really sneaky hackers fake the sitename they're
calling from too, though you have to be God to do that properly.
Doing it to SMTPs with reverse-lookup is trickier but *not* impossible :-)

G
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:44:00 CDT
From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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>Can we get back to some semblance of civility and restraint, please?

How about those Packers, neal?

> Let's put giggles' survey behind us and move on

OK, I put a hardcopy of it with my old Sears catalog.  Now, after I
move on, I can put the survey behind me.

Steve Karlson
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:09:30 -0400
From:         "(Agnes Kruchio)" <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Re: Today's Golden Words
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              30, 92 5:31 pm

>
> Our Golden Words For Today:
> .
> "I felt like a man who had been out in the desert for about
> three weeks, attacked by wolves and beaten up by bandits and
> kept crawling and crawling and came upon a not too attractive
> woman in the desert.  She might be ugly, but she's beautiful
> at that moment."
>          ---Barry Wilson, football coach at
>          Duke University, after the team broke its
>          seven-game losing streak on September 19
> ....
> brought to you by FRANZ&GEORGE, Accountants At Large
>

Boo.
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:10:17 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: the company she keeps!

>>So now even the "away for one year" is taken at face value. Well, if
>>someone fakes his name, you don't really take his mail as a piece of
>>news-reporting, do you? If the name is fiction, so is the letter.
>
> I see what you're saying.  But, at the level of the sentence, each
> of which bears the signature of the writer in some inescapable way
> (as you more or less put it),

Not to be taken too seriously, of course.


>                    I submit to you, then, that the ability to separate
> the bogus clues from the real clues is not a test of newbieness at all.

Well, no. But some guesses at who will behave in what way do help.


> Granted, memory is involved (Ernie Garcia? chihuahuas?), and attention.

Ernie Garcia and chihuahuas. These are extremely important. As also the
content of the first santa post in the recent bout, read in the context
of recent threads discussing the WFF. The people mentioned by Santa. Etc,
etc.


> Will you allow yourself to be pressed now for an unequivocal answer to
> the question "Who is Santa Claus, and how do I know?"

Yes. In fact I have already endorsed the one deadly accurate answer which
has appeared. As to how I know, well. For those who believe that headers
tell the truth, I have proof in there too. Natalie herself talked about how
to trace fake mail long ago. I just applied what she said.

Shucks, I feel like I am in a mystery novel or something.

tushar
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:36:35 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Blinking Lights
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              28 Sep 1992 13:23:00 EST from
              <CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>

On Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:23:00 EST <CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu> said:
>minutes later and changed the tire, and I was on my way--I only got
>out of the car to open the trunk).

Gee, you can't open the trunk from inside?  What kinda junker are you
driving, anyway?  8-)

dan
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From:         "(Graham Toal)" <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
Subject:      Re: Sunrise, sunset...
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Ah, but did you say *which* equinox?<:-)
From: ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU (Dan Lester)
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Date: 6 Oct 92 06:11:39 GMT
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              5 Oct 1992 21:38:41 CDT from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

On Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:38:41 CDT Natalie Maynor said:
>Yep, the kiddies are back.  Aren't they cute.

Gee, if it were MY list....I'd be thinking about serving VMI off....

but it isn't....and I'd probably not do it anyway.....

oh, well....

time will pass....will they?

dan
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Date:         Fri, 25 Sep 1992 16:33:56 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      RE: The current campaign season

>>  Oh. It's you.  Are you going to be nice this time?
>>
>>lara
>
>What do you *mean* this time! I am always sweet and nice! <grrr>
>
>There's something....intangible, undefinable...that I like about this
>newbie. Know what I mean??
>
>-abh

Oh give me a bloody break. Why don't you just say you have finally
found someone who will kowtow to you?

tushar
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:27:00 PDT
From:         Emily Horning <ECZ5EJH%UCLAMVS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Interesting Word

> I was just roaming around the various Novell settings on lab file-
> server (don't tell Natalie that I have supervisor status on it -- I'm
> not sure she realizes that) and stumbled upon an interesting word:
> semaphores.  Am gonna look it up soon.  I hit <enter> to see what the
> semaphores screen said, but it said nothing.  The word sounds kind of
> nasty to me.


Well, I just happen to have my AHD3 handy, and it says that a semaphore is:
1. A visual signaling apparatus with flags, lights, or mechanically moving
arms, as one used on a railroad. 2. A visual system for sending information
by means of two flags that are held one in each hand, using an alphabetic
code based on the position of the signaler's arms. Can also be a trans. &
intrans. verb. Comes from Greek _sema_ (sign) + phore (bearer, carrier).

You're right, it is interesting - I always wondered what to call those things!
;-) Now how would that fit into your fileserver?

Emily

P.S. I am looking forward to meeting Karen, Karsten and Marilyn Garber this
Friday for dinner at the Border Grill in Santa Monica - any wordslers in the
LA area are welcome to join us!!
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:20:04 CDT
From:         "(Natalie Maynor)" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: VAL-L
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> sometimes reasonable, sometimes nutty.  He reminds me a little of Don.
> Valentine writes desperately since he supposedly has a some sort of
> progressive lung disease that is killing him.  I don't think he's ever

I'm trying to figure out the connection with Don here...
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:03:51 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Anne on faked addresses
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              "harwell@SMTPGATE.TECHRSCS.PANAM.EDU" at Sep 30, 92 1:57 pm

> Interestingly, the former soviets are now on Internet, and there is
> actually a Vax in Moscow named Kremvax. It had a different name until the
> Communists fell and the operators learned of the Chernenko hoax, whereupon
> they immediately changed the machine's name.

	A mail-forging hoax is now pretty traditional for Usenet every
April 1st.  I think someone posted a forgery from Chuq Von Rospach
this year (chuq@apple.com).

	And heck, even the fbi is online these days.

Rita
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From:         "JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS"
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Subject:      Re: I was going to wait until Christmas, but . . .

Thanks a lot, Ausbrook.  I do so dearly love starting my day with
RESOURCE UNAVAILABLE - DISK QUOTA EXCEEDED messages...

JMW
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 09:58:52 GMT
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
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*** Resending note of 09/28/92 09:38

>  According to what I've been told, women are not allowed to teach adult
>Sunday school classes because of Paul's admonitions that women are not to
>teach Scripture to men, but men are to women.  It seems silly to me.

>Evelyn

Evelyn, about 5 years ago I attended (for a few months) a sunday school
class taught by a woman in a Southern Baptist Church.  I no longer go to
that church, but not because they allowed women to teach.
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:21:19 MED
From:         "(Graham Toal)" <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (61)
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 not call themselves Wiccan, thank you very much.  And unless you know the
 person in question, you have no bloody idea whether s/he has any
 historical basis for what s/he is doing.  So bugger off.

How can *anyone* have an historical precedent for witchcraft when there
is none, as there is no history of druids going back more than a hundred years
or so despite what the idiots at stonehenge every summer say; likewise the
masons' claim to great antiquity is totally bogus.  Egyptians indeed.  Pah.

G
PS I do, regularly.
From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
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Subject: Re: Shivvering in DeKalb???
Date: 4 Oct 92 19:19:04 GMT
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"Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815) writes:
> And, if any words-lers are so inclined, I challenge them to produce
> a formal proof of a claim I alluded to in an earlier post: that
> lower tax rates reduce tax cheating.

If tax rates are lowered to 0% there won't be any tax cheating.
The truthfulness of this statement is self-evident.

--karsten

(You wanted a general proof?)
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Date: 2 Oct 1992 20:22:16 GMT
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>>
>> > Hmmmmmmm.  Looks like the old Hoosier Hick here is the only one who
>> > "took down" the "wash"?  I also fix dinner, even when it's not broken...
*hic* ?:-) [just doing my confusing best, ducks]
>> > John, who still refers to any rivulet as a 'crick'...
>> > (Wonder if the Board of Regents will give me a refund?)
Nope - never - it's against bloodsucker, er University, policy
>>
>> ------ I just want to say that I just subscribed to this program; I
>> have read many messages from it, but I don't know what is goin on?
>> Could somebody explain me?
Before asking this question, you should have asked yourself, "self, do I
*really* want the answer to this question?"  As you didn't, the answer is no,
only you can explain you.  Words-l, on the other hand is a discussion of the
English language and general free-for-all.  New subscribers generally learn
quickly or vanish even more quickly.<evil grin>

>>                             > Dangel@rex.mnsmc
btw- just who are you, anyway?:-)  And why do you keep bouncing messages?
Leaving the Words-l header in the message body is very bad form, oh innocent
sir.  Could you please omit it in the future?

>
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:27:52 EDT
From:         "(Rashmi)" <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject: Re: Anne on faked addresses
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> >
> >Women *know* these things.
> Actually, now since Rashmi and I got it, it strikes me that it's
> Indians who know these things.

BTW, I guessed on my own, without any additional clues (apart from the ones
that were posted on the list).
>
> Mystic intuition, you know.
We may both be wrong, you know.

rashmi
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From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Rested Now
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Hi y'all.  I'm back.  I feel much better after my nap
in the <closet>.
Have y'all been talking about me?
--ggs
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Subject:      Re: still a loser

Greetings,

Well, when you put it that way, Natalie...  This reminds me of the
Saturday Night Live episode on which Mary Tyler Moore says of Elvis
Costello, "This man has a penis."  Egads!

Marty
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:14:06 EDT
From:         Tony Harminc <TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      Hi

Still alive - difficult to keep up :-( .  Hello to the various new, uh - faces.

Someone forward any momentous news to me please...

Tony H.
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