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From: Schoenling
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Scottish Toasts
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:33:28 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research

In article <1992Mar31.151656.22058@msc.cornell.edu> bickham@msc.cornell.edu
(Scott Bickham) writes:
>Does anyone know what the Scottish version of "Cheers", "Prost", "Slainte"
>etc. is?  I am brewing a Scottish Ale and I want to be politically correct
>while drinking it.
>
>Thanks,
>	Scott
>-- 
>
Without any knowledge of how to spell Celtic(?) Scottish,
or the ability to warp my tongue to pronounce it correctly,
the last Scottish toast I heard(at the Grandfather Mountain
Highland Games) was(phonetically): Slahnge T'Vor (translation:
To Your Very Good Health). Those that couldn't pronounce it
correctly were saying: Slam the Door!  

Your Welcome,

Dick Schoenling
Internet: dtracy@bnr.ca
From: plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Recommended List of Beers for Beginners, Revision 1
Date: 16 Apr 1992 20:14:12 GMT
Organization: Brown University Planetary Geology
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: pilsner.geo.brown.edu

In article <4hzjlrr.noring@netcom.com> noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:
>P.S., much thanks to Joel Plutchak for posting some valuable information
>about these beers which I do not include in this list (including
>categorization).  As long as Joel continues to simul-post this information
>along with my updates, I will not incorporate his information into this list
>(since I couldn't do it any better).

   You're just too quick with these updates-- now I'm forced to pick up
a sixer of New Amsterdam Amber on my way home from work tonight, so I
can get my companion article out tomorrow.  You fiend!  Ah, well, I'll
make the sacrifice.
--
Joel Plutchak, Research Programmer/Analyst
plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu -or- PGGIPL::PLUTCHAK (VMS: Just say NO!)
Favorite sci.geo.meteorology quote: "Joel dissipated over China on 7 September."
From: twpierce@happy.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: test
Date: 16 Apr 92 03:31:44 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

this is a test
i'm a new user and am trying to figure out how this works
From: cmraman@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Serious Moonlighter)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Cheapest Beer??
Summary: I second the motion
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:43:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: darkstar.32410
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing


In article <1992Apr8.051933.22065@willamette.edu> dbeacham@willamette.edu (Daniel Beacham) writes:
>	WHAT???!!!  You guys haven't heard of Lucky Lager??
>	8.50 a case (11 oz. stubbies) and a cryptogram puzzle in every cap!

I'll have to second Daniel's opinion on Lucky Lager. 
the best part of drinking it, of course, it r\trying to figure out the
rebus on the inside of the fifth or sixth bottlecap. :)

It's a good additive in chili, too.

Marc Reeve
cmraman@ucscb.ucsc.edu
From: binkley@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Jon Binkley)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Guinness
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:26:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: beagle.binkley.703203999
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

umcarman@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Chris D. Carman) writes:

>I've just recently purchased another 6 of Guinness from a 
>local liquor mart here in Winnipeg.  An interesting thing
>to note is that the beer is in fact brewed by Labatt
>"under the direct supervision of Arthur Guinness Son &
>Company (Dublin) Limited).  (quoted from the bottle).
  
>My question is this:  How does the Canadian Labatt brewed
>version of Guinness compare to the beer brewed in Ireland?
>Are there any other countries that brew their own Guinness
>instead of importing it?

Guinness has a brewery in Jamaica.  I think it's operated
by them, though, not liscensed to someone else.  This may
be the case in England as well.

Jon Binkley
From: ufe@dlva.dl.ac.uk (Mark Enderby)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Beer Hunter
Keywords: beer, hunter
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:22:55 GMT
Reply-To: enderby@daresbury.ac.uk
Organization: SERC Daresbury Laboratory

-- If I remember correctly, The Beer Hunter runs to 6 half-hour
episodes - Belgium, Britain, US, Germany, Czech and one other.
Well worth watching - even for those who (think) they know it all !
However, make sure you have some beer in stock - it doesn't half
make you thirsty !
Cheers,
	Mark
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From: DURRETT@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: weird beers
Date: 15 Apr 92 04:02:56 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In the house where my wife learned to make beer, the story was that a
previous member of the house accidentally added an entire can of chicken
soup to his batch of beer. He was simultaneously attempting to make his
lunch and was a little spacey. From all accounts the beer turned out fine,
but I would urge caution.

Roo-Dog Rip
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Roo-Dog Rip is:                  <>SLAC, Stanford, the DOE and the
Derrell Durrett                  <>University of Colorado neither claim
D_DURRETT@COLOPHYS.BITNET        <>responsibility nor accept liability
D_DURRETT%KAOS@VAXF.COLORADO.EDU <>for my opinions. Gee- what a surprise.
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From: hall@trlian.enet.dec.com (Dan Hall)
Subject: Re: Guinness
Reply-To: hall@buffa.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Merrimack, NH
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 16:58:38 GMT


In article <92107.135309FNOTMAN@ESTEC.BITNET>, <FNOTMAN@ESTEC.BITNET> writes:

> 1/ The "smoothifier" (didn't know they'd coined a name for it) is a small
>container (cylinder, pelet, whatever) of gas in the bas of the can. On openning
>the can (as stated, differential preasure) it bursts and so gassifies the beer.
>It's better than "normal" canned beer, but still notas good as real draft.

Sorry but no, there's nothing in a can of Pub Draught Guinness that bursts.

It's really quite simple.  It's just a small plastic device, its length equal
to the diameter of the can, its width about half the diameter of the can, and
its height about one-half inch.  It is really just a small container, capacity
probably about 10ml, with a tiny hole in it.  Upon canning the beer, some of it
is forced into the container through the tiny hole.  WHen the can is opened,
the pressure differential causes the liquid in the small container to leave it
through the tiny hole.  The ejection of that liquid into the beer in the primary
chamber of the can causes the beer to become roused, and it foams up.

It's really the same action you got from Guinness's previous gimmick, which was
a tiny syringe with which you sucked up some of the beer from the glass and
ejected it back with the syringe's plunger.  In the case of the "Smoothifier",
it's done automagically.

No mirrors, no wires, no bursting pellets, no containers charged with nitrogen
or any other gas, no liquid nitrogen.  Nothing complicated at all.  If you get
ahold of a can of Pub Draught Guinness, cut it open and see for yourself.
And BTW, before you cut the can open, look for the typo in the text on the back.

FWIW, the Guinness in the Pub Draught can is pasteurized.  That probably is one
of the reasons it's not as good as fresh Guinness.  The main reason for me is
because it's not being drunk in a pub in Ireland.

--
 Dan Hall   Digital Equipment Corporation   MKO1-2/H10   Merrimack, NH   03054
 hall@buffa.enet.dec.com		        ....!decwrl!buffa.dec.com!hall

 		      "Adhere to Schweinheitsgebot
	Don't put anything in your beer that a pig wouldn't eat"  --David Geary
From: afry@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Alan R. Fry)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Utah beer
Date: 15 Apr 92 05:43:11 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <llBDfxG@uop.uop.edu> tford@madvax.uop.edu writes:



>Over Spring Break this year, some friends and I toured (to ski and drink beer
>Nevada, Utah, Wyoming, and Idaho...

	[remaining random flaming deleted]

I already wrote back a more colorful response "The Hobbit", but I thought I
would post some of the actual beer-related info about Utah.

In general, Utah is not exactly the Beer Capitol of the U.S.  But there is
some good beer to be found.

In particular, I like the Wasatch beers in Utah quite a bit.  The Wasatch
Ale and Slickrock Ale have very distinctive tastes that remind me just a bit
of Dock Street.  The Wasatch beers can be found anyplace in the Salt Lake
City area.

A very good microbrewery is Squatters Pub in downtown SLC.  They brew a
stout, a pale ale, a wheat beer, and some others seasonally.  It is a nice,
relaxing place, and the food is good.

The maximum alcohol content of beers and wines sold in supermarkets and
resturants is 3.2%.  You can find whatever else in the state run liquor
stores at reasonable prices.

Cheers,

Alan
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From: jmarshal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John L Marshall)
Subject: Re: GREAT CHEAP BEERS!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:49:33 GMT

In article <kdsr3kW00awUQ1Y0wj@andrew.cmu.edu> cm0o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Craig Arno
 Mrusek) writes:
>I've been told by most of my friends that my taste in beer sucks , but
>3)  Iron City ( Okay, maybe not so cheap, but I'm a native Pittsburgher,
>so  sue me.  I don't know what the distribution is like outside the
>    Pittsburgh area,  so someone surprise me and say they've managed      to
>find a bottle in some far flung region.)

I'm also a native Pittsburgher, but I think Iron City is one of the worst beers
I've ever had (Milwaukee's Best is THE worst).  I.C. Light is tolerable, 
because it has no taste.

>1)  GENESSEE CREAM ALE  ( Not quite as cheap as Schaefer in these parts,
>but I like it enough to spend the extra dollar or two.  Of course I
>realize that I am one of approximately 14 people in the known world who
>actually *like* GCA (or at least admit it!), so let the insults fly.
>I'm used to it...)

A friend here likes this in cans, so I've had a few.  Very smooth.  Not too bad
out of cans, but I've never had it on tap or in a bottle where I prefer my
beer.

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From: ewk@kraken.micro.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Name a beer! Any beer!
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:14:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.1992Apr9.171456.1735
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis: Under Grad Workstation Lab.

In <1992Apr3.211703.1@amherst.edu> mbfeld@amherst.edu writes:

>I am sure that you beer drinking folks have got this question a MILLION times,
>but here it is again:

>What is a good beer to drink?

>To qualify that statement:

>I am looking for a beer which
>(1) is no more than $5 per six, maybe less;
>(2) is (of course) very good;
>(3) has a flavor on the mild side, so that I can drink a few without being
>overwhelmed;
>(4) is either
>	(a) a brand that can be obtained at any well-stocked liquor store
>(although it need not be the kind of brand advertised on TV), or
>	(b) a brand that would be available in New England (Western
>Massachusetts in particular).

>Please! Be opinionated.  Mail, post, whatever. Thanks!

>Marlon Feld
>mbfeld@amherst.edu

>P.S. A really good beer to drink is Upper Canada Dark Ale, although it passes
>only (2) and _maybe_ (3) of the four criteria above.

Most good beers brewed in America are brewed in micro-breweries.  They will
usually cost around $5 for a six and most of them are far superior than your
average Budmilloors-type beer.  In Minnesota we have fine brews from
Summit and Schells.

One surprisingly good beer I came across was Miller Reserve.  They probably
just took an old recipe from regular Miller and put a different label on it,
but it's still a good beer.  Says "100% Barley Draft" on it.  Not really
sure if that's significant or not.

-Rick
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tuesday, 14 Apr 1992 13:34:15 MST
From: <ICLNM@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Pete's Wicked Ale?

In article <AdujAUW00awE04oUki@andrew.cmu.edu>, cm0o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Craig Arno
Mrusek) says:
>
>        I saw this stuff sold in bottles by the six-pack in Columbus, OH,
>recently.  I can't remember specifically what the price was, but I do
>remember it being LUDICROUSLY expensive.
>
>        My questions are:  Why so pricey?  Is it imported?  Is it just that
>good?  Maybe if someone would be kind enough to give me a little
>
Define pricey (better yet, define ludicrously expensive).  Here in Phoenix
it is slightly higher than Michelob, about the same as Samuel Adams, Anchor
Steam, or a run of the mill import, about $7.00/six.  IMHO, it is a good beer
(not as good as SA or Anchor, better than the others), but I am more inclined
to pay $11/case for Coors at the price club, drink it ice cold, and not ask
too many questions.  But when I want to treat myself. . . .
Loyd Means
Phoenix AZ
Organization: Freshman, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Date: Wed,  8 Apr 1992 00:18:16 -0400 
From: Michael Jay Lefever <ml59+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Cheapest Beer??

The best cheap beer is...

                            Schaeffer's.

Cheap but good.


Mike


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From: John.DeCarlo@p109.f131.n109.z1.fidonet.org (John DeCarlo)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Killer Whale Amber Ale  off-flavor
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1992 12:18:23 -0500

On <Apr 02 18:17>, Shannon Smith (ssmith@eoin.net.netcom.com ) wrote:

 SS >It's not often that I pour half a bottle of beer out--especially one
 SS >I paid $4 for--but such is the case with the bottle of Killer Whale
 SS >Amber Ale brewed by the Monterey Brewing Company that I bought at
 SS >Safeway the other day.

I bought a bunch of Monterey Brewing Company beers when I was out in San 
Francisco recently.  They all had that sour lactic tang to them.  I thought 
that one of the MBC slogans was "We're lactic and we like it."  If not, maybe 
it should be <grin>.  Seriously, anyone know if this is on purpose or not?
From: rpaolino@polisci.pol.umn.edu (Robert Paolino)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Cheapest Beer??
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:24:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: polisci.rpaolino.220
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota

In article <1992Apr9.031100.5106@terminator.cc.umich.edu> danno@css.itd.umich.edu (Daniel T. Pritts) writes:

>In article <mah2.702285658@Isis.MsState.Edu> mah2@ra.msstate.edu  
>(Michael Andrew Hodges) writes:
>> Hey, I have heard the best beers and the worst beers but YET have I  
>heard
>> what the best cheapest beers are!!!!

>My personal faves are Black Label (24/12oz longnecks for $7.99) and  
>Old Style (lately available: 20/12oz cans for $6.99).  

>Mabel...Another Black Label!
>--
>dan pritts
>computer systems consultant
>university of michigan itd consulting and support services
>dan.pritts@umich.edu    (nextmail ok, but note in subject line)
>313/998-6265

This is the first time I've seen Dog Style make this group, at least the 
first time I've seen it as someone's favourite.
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From: rck@fangio.asd.sgi.com (Robert Keller)
Subject: Re: Pete's Wicked Ale?
Keywords: Pete's Wicked Ale, Watney's
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: public, world
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:24:23 GMT

kyle@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Kyle Wohlmut) writes:
>rpaolino@polisci.pol.umn.edu (Robert "Blowing up Detroit" Paolino) writes:
>
>>GEE, THAT'S ODD.  FOR A BEER THAT LISTS PALO ALTO AS ITS HOME (EVEN THOUGH 
>>IT'S BREWED IN MINNESOTA), I'D THINK YOU OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO GET IT THERE
>
>Can't imagine why they do that, since there's certainly no Pete's
>Wicked Brewery here.  

While there isn't a Pete's brewery in Palo Alto, there is an office.  Just 
check out the phone book to get the exact address.

...robert
From: chmilar@Apple.COM (Michael Chmilar)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Guinness
Date: 15 Apr 92 06:50:47 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

umcarman@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Chris D. Carman) writes:

>Followup-To: 
>Distribution: 
>Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
>Keywords: 

>An interesting thing
>to note is that the beer is in fact brewed by Labatt
>"under the direct supervision of Arthur Guinness Son &
>Company (Dublin) Limited).
> 
>My question is this:  How does the Canadian Labatt brewed
>version of Guinness compare to the beer brewed in Ireland?
>Are there any other countries that brew their own Guinness
>instead of importing it?
> 

I've tried this Labatt's Guiness, Guiness in Dublin, and Guiness brewed
in Dublin and exported to California.

The Labatt's Guiness is a travesty.  It bears no relation to either of
the other two forms of Guiness mentioned above.  It's as if they've put
some colouring into Labatt's Blue.  Don't let this slop bias you against
real Guiness.  Just be patient, and wait for an opportunity to try the
real thing.

Export Guiness, while it is not as good as draught Guiness in Dublin, is
still very good.

Mike
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: bradley@reed.edu (Ben Bradley)
Subject: Cooking With Beer
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 02:30:47 GMT


I once picked up a little leaflet called Cooking with Beer from the Rainier
brewery in Seattle.  I tried a couple of the recipes, and they were pretty
darned good.  If I can find the thing I'll try to post a recipe or two, or
offer some info for where to write to get one.


From: Paula.Goldman@f131.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Paula Goldman)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: weird beers
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 09:44:00 -0500

Whoops!  Let me clarify my request for weird beer stories/recipes:

   I am looking for beers made with off-beat ingredients which are not 
in Papazian or the Cat's Meow, both of which I have.
From: laeh88@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Holland L.A.)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Malt Liquor ** & Beer storage
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:31:39 GMT
Organization: University of Southampton, England
Originator: laeh88@spenser


In article <92106.113328FNOTMAN@ESTEC.BITNET>, FNOTMAN@ESTEC.BITNET writes:
> 
>  Following up on previous posters comment re certain strong beers (Belgian
> trappist beers run to 12%), if its sterile beer (as American canned lemonade,
> e.g. Colt), then drink it as you like it. BUT, if you've got some live beer
> (Duvel, Chimay, etc), BE WARNED, yes it does (owing to strength) travel well,
> but to really enjoy it (as opposed to simply getting pi-eyed), it must settle
> in a cool dark place (NO, NOT THE FRIDGE AS IT'LL KEEP GETTING SHOOK-UP) for
> anything up to 3 months. Then it must be pored VERY carfully, leaving the
> last bit (with the gunk) in the bottle.
>  P.S. Chimay is the only brewery to my knowlege who make a standard brew where
> they always put the year (I.E. "VINTAGE") on teh bottle. That particular brew
> is in large bottles (3/5 litle I think, i.e. wine bottle sized) and comes
> complete with a wired cork (a la champers).
> 
>  P.S. Another good range of beers are German ALTE BEER.

Eldridge Pope from southern England also date(though not actually stating a vintage as such) their bottles of _Thomas Hardy Ale_ as they recommend leaving it for at least *18* months to mature, it continues to mature/improve until about _25 Years old_. This is a strong beer around 12% alcohol, but not very easy to get hold of even here in england!

This should not be confused with the cask beer called _Thomas Hardy Country_.

	_Egal_
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	Adrian Holland		laeh88@uk.ac.soton
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From: lavoie@bnr.ca (Marc Lavoie)
Subject: Re: Canadian beer trade barriers to be dropped
Reply-To: lavoie@bnr.ca (Marc Lavoie)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 20:52:35 GMT

|> 
|>  KF >Amen to that!  But my point above had nothing to do with beer quality;
|>  KF >rather, a certain percentage of Canadians (or people anywhere, for that
|>  KF >matter) will drink anything if the price is right. The Canadian brewers
|>  KF >presently have no product to compete with the likes of Lone Star or
|>  KF >Pabst Blue Ribbon...
|> 
|> Actually, a *lot* of Budweiser is sold in Canada.  It's expensive, but 
|> imported!  (I cried when I first saw this in a bar on a trip.)  Maybe if it 
|> comes down in price, people won't think it is as good.
|>

Actually, not.  Budweiser is brewed in Canada by one of the majors, and it
doesn't really taste like the american version (blind taste test).  It may
just not be available in all provinces but is sure is in Ontario and Quebec.

The big down side to this is that because the name is licenced from the 
american company (Anheiser-Busch?), we can't get the real Budweiser
from Czechoslovakia (all you Americans who thought that Bud was a real 
american beer, you're wrong!).  The real stuff comes from a part of
Czecheslovakia called Budvar and definitly doesn't taste the same (it also
has a higher alcohol content, something like 8%).  I think the story is that
the name was licenced in from the old country but I can't quite remember.
Some bars import it privately.

Anyway, the Bud you saw here might have been a true import, not the american
stuff (sorry, don't like it myslef!).


Marc Lavoie
Bell-Northern Research
Ottawa, Canada
lavoie@bnr.ca
From: rmelvil@hughes.hacgate.UUCP (Richard Melville)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Big Rock Alert!
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:51:23 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Hughes Aircraft of Canada Limited, Calgary AB
In-reply-to: chmilar@apple.com's message of 15 Apr 92 18:11:37 GMT

In article <65480@apple.Apple.COM> chmilar@apple.com (Michael Chmilar) writes:

> I see Big Rock beer appearing in more and more places in California, even
> at a nearby Safeway store.

> This is outstanding beer.  It is made in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.  This is
> microbrewery beer, cold filtered and unpasteurized.

  [ Rave review of Big Rock Beer deleted ]

Note also that Big Rock Breweries is the official sponsor of the Calgary
Hash House Harriers.  The hash is fueled by Big Rock. On-on !

> Royal Coachman Dry.  Why do they make this?

Harrierettes like it.

-Golden Shower

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