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Subject: generic drugs
From: dayrton@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:20:28 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <sysmatt.711809308@aix3090b.uky.edu>, sysmatt@aix3090b.uky.edu (James M. Simpson) writes:

> I've often wondered about the difference between "prescription" strength and
> over-the-counter versions of the same drug. For example, after a recent
> unanticipated dismount from an unruly steed, I was sent home from the hospital
> with a butt full of Toridol, and prescriptions for Tylenol/codeine (unavailable

Here's a good one: a study about a decade ago found no advantage to combining
drugs like codeine or oxycodone with aspirin or acetominophen.  Why take two
drugs when you only need one?


> over the counter) and 600 mg ibuprofen (1 tablet several times a day>) The
> 600 mg ibuprofen requires a prescription ... 200 mg ibuprofen is available
> over the counter (Advil, Motrin, and lots of generic brands). Considering
> the inflated prices on prescriptions, it probably would have been cheaper
> to buy generic 200 mg ibuprofen and take 3 times as much. Is there any real
> reason for taking one strong pill instead of 3 weak ones?

Nope.  No difference for Over The Counter drugs, and aside from a very few
special drugs, no difference between name-brand prescription drugs and their
low cost generic equivalents.  "All aspirin is alike."  Well, almost.  The
difference is in the buffers and stabilizers used in aspirin, which is somewhat
unstable and tends to break down into acetic acid and, oh, something else.


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From: matt@cray.com (Matthew Marchese)
Subject: Re: "Green Death" Beer
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: 21 Jul 92 03:05:17 CDT

In article <l6lo4rINNi41@male.EBay.Sun.COM> jimj@cleanplate.EBay.Sun.COM (James D. Jones) writes:
>My drink of choice, years ago, was Rainer Ale in the nice green
>bottles.  Kind of an acquired taste.  Everybody'd look at me funny and
>say, "He's drinking Green Death."  Hyuk, hyuk.  Well, _I_ liked it.  No 
>wimpoid Henry's for me.
>
>Anyway, apparently there are/were several regional beers with the nickname
>"Green Death."  Heffenreffer's, a Rhode Island beer, also went by that
>nickname.  Does anybody know any others? 

I have heard two Wisconsin beers referred to as "Green Death"; Heileman's
Special Export and Augsburger. On a similar note "Old Style" beer is
frequently referred to as "Dog Style".

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Subject: Re: Left - Right
From: hugh@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Hugh Grierson)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 11:03:25 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <1992Jul21.153809.26507@public.sub.org> peterk@public.sub.org (Peter Kittel) writes:
>This was also brought up as a question in a german TV show: Why does
>everything run counterclockwise, when humans are involved? They
>referred to track&field arenas, and they also stated that men in a
>fight attack in a curve with this orientation.
...
>The only counterexample I know are horse racing tracks.

And, I suggest, clocks.

Hugh "unless you view them from behind" Grierson
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From: bobk@ESD.3Com.COM (Bob Konigsberg)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Bear eats child's face
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:46:31 GMT

I can't vouch for the veracity of your "honey on the face" story, but
there is enough stupidity out there that I'll believe it.  Two stories,
told by two different friends.

One friend, a part time park ranger found a family where the father
had placed his kids on the back of a bear to take a picture of them.
In this case, the ranger told them to get his picture and then get
his kids off the bear's back.  Afterward the father (I believe) got
chewed out.  Nothing grim happened but that's pretty close.

The other case was from a friend of mine up in Alaska.  He saw a man
throwing rocks at a moose in order to get the moose to look his way, so`
that he could get a face-on picture.

BobK
From: lean@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Who was Sam Walton
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:35:03 GMT
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

I noticed in this thread that someone  (I'm sorry I forget
who) made a reference to Robert Heinlein having shuffled off the mortal 
coil. Is this true? Can anybody tell me when and how?
ObUL: The Guardian Weekly of a week ago reports a cat in Merika
who sorts jellybeans into piles according to their colour, but
doesn't eat them. He's apparently quite satisfied to do the sort,
and then go on with ordinary cat-type things.
Mike Lean, University Copyright Officer
and Audiovisual Production Coordinator
at QUT (Queensland University of Technology) Brisbane, Australia.
lean@qut.edu.au
  "Never try to outstubborn a cat." Robert A. Heinlein.
Disclaimer: My opinions bilong mi tasol! Em tasol!
From: jordan@castor.cs.uga.edu (Chuck Jordan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: A Man, A Woman, A Bed, and Handcuffs (was Anyone heard this one?)
Summary: Hmmm... sounds pretty suspicious
Date: 26 Jul 92 20:41:31 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <BryFt0.Mrr@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson) writes:
>In article <24814@dog.ee.lbl.gov> TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
>> [bondage blunder UL's]
>>
>>...novel (entitled _Gerald's Cabin_ or something like that) uses a 
>>similar motif.  He said that it begins with a couple who lives in 
>>a remote cabin in the woods.  They like to engage in bondage, though
>>the woman begins to tire of it.  One day, the woman is handcuffed to
>>the bed and the husband somehow croaks, so there she is, bound to a 
>>bed in a cabin out in the woods.
>>
>[Potential spoiler for SK fans]

>The suspense comes when a hungry mongrel walks in, eats her husband,
>and starts sniffing hungrily at _her_.  (I know time and digestion
>and starvation make this chronoligically incredible, but that's
>what the book says.)

So the police come in at the end of the book, find her chained up to the
bed, a choking dog, and a dead man with three fingers missing from his 
right hand?!?

Sounds like Steve has been dipping into the USENET (or at least reading
Brunvand) for story ideas.

What happens next?  She learns that she killed her husband as part of a
snuff film?  An international letter-writing campaign is started?  ("There
is a 12-year-old woman chained to a bed in a cabin out in the woods.  She
wants to be saved by the Guiness Book of World Records People, so send all
your business cards...")

Maybe we should retaliate by robbing from Steven King in our posts to a.f.u.
From now on, all my posts will be dull and predictable and will contain no
semblance of deep thought involved.  (As if you could tell the difference.)

Chuck "And then, in the prologue... was a HOOK!!!!" Jordan


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From: stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame)
Subject: Re: "Eat the rich"
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 22:57:48 GMT

In article <BrsuJG.6FC@acsu.buffalo.edu> bucklaew@acsu.buffalo.edu (Tom P. Bucklaew) writes:
>>My question (if you haven't guessed yet) is where did this originate? 
>>I hope this proves interesting.
>>Thanks a bunch!
>>
>>Geoff
>
>With regards to the expression "eat the rich": I believe this is the name of a
>song by the "speed metal" band Motorhead. I daresay that the aforementioned 
>logo has a similar origin, or was at least invented by some unknown to 
>accompany the song.
>
>
>IB@UB

I have nothing to go on other than a gut feeling but the phrase probably
came about during the first hectic years of punk rock.  Either that or
it originated from some art movement like Situationism or Dadaism but they
were kinda sorta the forerunners of punk anyway.  I've just finished
_Lipstick Traces_ by Greil Marcus so a lot of this has been on my mind
lately . . . 

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From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Invisible idiots and bad meat
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:03:59 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Reply-To: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   

Borrowed without permission from Dukes and Klein, "Trends in
Translation:  Machines and Myths," in Chew, ed., Conference Record, 
1992  IEEE International Technical Communication Conference (in press):

   In an English-to-Spanish translation, the term in question was 
   "miss distance". In context, it meant the distance by which a 
   missile misses the target.  The machine did not ask me any 
   questions about "terms not found". It knew better than me, which 
   is strange.  And the MT system translated "senorita distancia."... 
   Translation represents an unending amount of variables and 
   ambiguities that cannot be expressed in even the best program.

Joe "But did he run "Nova" through it?" Chew
From: mikkelson@breakr.enet.dec.com (snopes)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: that'd be in the butt, bob
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:13:39 GMT
Organization: Salivation Army


In article <1992Jul23.183408.1027@bert.eecs.uic.edu>, 
  artn@bert.eecs.uic.edu (Ellyn Sandor) writes...

>A friend of mine whose truth and memory I trust claim to have seen the
>episode.

>the wording was a little different from what has transpired in this
>discussion

 Rather interesting that so many people have seen the same event, yet they
 can't even seem to agree on the details.  Sort of like all the people who
 "saw" the famous "pussy" incident on _The Tonight Show_, even though they
 can't seem to agree on whether it involved Zsa-Zsa Gabor, Eva Gabor, Racquel 
 Welch, Ann Margaret, etc.

>	Where is your favorite place to make whoopie?

  Yet another variant.  Now it's not "the strangest place", but "your
  favorite place".

>  1986-1988 timeframe

  This UL is at least twenty years old.

>Some people have been arguing that censors would never have let
>that go by.  Why?  There are no dirty words, and the content is such that
>one would already have to know about how that sort of thing works 
>in order to understand:  in other words, a child young enough to require
>protection from such a statement would not understand it in the first place.

 The same concept applies to all censored language -- if you don't know what
 it means, it won't hurt you to hear it.  It gets censored nevertheless.  Heck,
 I watch *cable* channels that still blip out the word "dick".  In any case,
 this story is very old; it dates from a time when censorship restrictions were
 tighter than today.

>	I, too, would like to see a tape, but I think the numbers of
>direct witnesses in this case leads me to believe it really happened.

 Heh.  You can just drop this statement, verbatim, into the next snuff film
 debate.  Given the number of people who swear they "saw on TV" incidents that
 took place on radio, I'm not impressed by numbers.

 - snopes

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From: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Scearce)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: catching bullets with the teeth
Date: 30 Jul 1992 01:55:05 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: sector7g

In article 2741@crd.ge.com, salantel@dssv01.crd.ge.com (E. L. Salant) writes:
> I heard from coworkers, that on tv they showed a man who could catch a
> bullet fired from a gun with his teeth.

I hate to give away magicians' secrets, but would you rather:

(a) learn how to palm a slug so that it looked like you fished it out
    of your mouth, and (optionally) build some prop that would look
    like a bullet passed through it, or:

(b) have someone fire a gun at your head.

Brian "That'd be in the mouth, Gridley" Scearce
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: denebeim@brtph254.bnr.ca (Jay Denebeim P025)
Subject: Re: NetNews/CD - USENET News Available
Keywords: locksmith door
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 00:51:34 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.012649.25775@news.columbia.edu> lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>I assume they serve the same function as cutout records.  Now can someone
>explain the business reason why both records and CD's are cut at all?
>Apparently, the mechanism that qualifies this is fairly consistent.  Are
>any other media cut out for this specific reason?  (45's, Laser-discs?, DAT?
>DCC?, sheet music?)

Records, books, etc, are generally sold on consignment.  If the
retailer can't sell it after a given amount of time, they, in the case
of books, tear off the covers and send *ONLY* the covers back, and
presumably pitch the book.  I suppose in the case of records/CDs they
send them back.

I suppose what happens in the case of the records/CDs the distributor
etc punches holes in 'em, and sells 'em as 'scrap' to get rid of them.

In the book case, it is against the contract, and certainly immoral to
sell the book.  The book stores get all their money back, and so if
the book is sold neither the publisher, or more importantly (IMO) the
author get any money from the sale.


Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: pt@geovision.gvc.com (Paul Tomblin)
Subject: Re: Anyone heard this one? New UL?
Reply-To: pt@geovision.gvc.com
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 23:25:12 GMT

billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller) writes:
>: What about the bit about the dip-shit usenet user who quotes 100 lines of
>: included text only to stick a three line reply after it?
>Even more common is the user who posts an unnecessary gratuitous insult.
>These people are even worse than the aforementioned dip-shit users who
>quote unnecessary material.

Say, you wouldn't be a friend of C Lasner would you?

The best signal to noise ratio helper I've ever heard:
"If there is no original text in the first page, don't read the posting!"

My corollory:
"If the user take offense when somebody complains about them not editing the
quoted text - plonk them! ESPECIALLY if they're posting from a .edu site."


-- 
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(This is not an official opinion of GeoVision Systems Inc.)
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   - Rolf Wilson in alt.folklore.computers
From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: cumbers in commercials
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Date: 30 Jul 1992 19:22:58 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Cadillac Ranch, New Joisey
NNTP-Posting-Host: purplehaze.corp.sun.com



In article <1992Jul30.183942.6641@vicorp.com> jmethot@vicorp.com writes:

>I'm sure I won't be the only one to point out that you are mistaken.  Many
>*new* engines now have *four* valves per cylinder (I think there may even
>be a few with three valves per cylinder), producing a sixteen-valve, four
>cylinder engine.  These were initially in higher-performance models, but
>now are used for increased economy as well, I believe.

Three-valve engines have been common since 1973.  They were introduced
in the CVCC (Compound Vortex Controlled Combustion) engine of the original
Honda Civic.  Mutsubishi came out with their own version a few years
later, called MCA-Jet, in the Colt.


>What pisses me off is that they no longer mention fuel economy.  Am I the
>only one who cares (I drive a Geo Metro - >50 mpg everywhere)?

Maybe the fuel economy craze has peaked.  Besides, cars like the Metro
aren't nearly as profitable as more expensive models, so it makes sense
not to emphasize them as much in costly ad campaigns unless there's a 
huge demand for them.


Geoff


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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: ME-163 Komet
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 19:29:53 GMT

geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:
: 
: 
: In article <92212.164939WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> 
: WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:
: 
: >Not truly tailless, the Me-163 Komet did have a vertical stabilizer
: >(a rudder) yet lacked horizontal stabilizers.  
: 
: That's true.  But the term "tailless" in most contexts refers only to the
: lack of _horizontal_ stabilizers.  The only airplanes I know of that lacked
: even a vertical stabilizer are the Northrop flying wings, from the small
: single-seat prototypes of the Forties up to the B-2 Stealth bomber; I've 
: seen the term used quite a few times in reference to a lot of airplanes 
: other than those.

The only reason that this works with the B-2 is because it has what I call
ruddevators. In other words, there are diagonal control surfaces that act
as both rudders and elevators, depending on how they are actuated.

Bill

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson)
Subject: Re: cumbers in commercials
Organization: Famed Parquet Floor
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 02:02:10 GMT

In article <Bs7uMv.7sn@hatch.socal.com> richg@hatch.socal.com (Rich Greenberg) writes:
>
>A lot of engines have 4 valves/cylinder, and a 
>few have 6.
>
This is not even a new idea.  Duesenbergs had 32-valve straight 8's in the 
early 30's, and multivalve racing engines have been around since Hector was
a pup.

BTW, what's a cumber?  There used to be a call called the Humber, an
upper-middle-class Brit vehicle whose top model was the Super Snipe,
but 'c' and 'h' are a long wat apart on the keyboard.

Phil "Cucumbers in commercials?" Gustafson
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: dwight@locus.com (Dwight Tovey)
Subject: Re: Vacation Time!
Keywords: Ditch Day, vanishing room
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:57:50 GMT

In article <BruGv9.2B7@apollo.hp.com> nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson) writes:

> [Inordinate amount of childish ranting deleted]

Peter..
Go away.

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From: dkmiller@unixg.ubc.ca (Derek K. Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.science
Subject: Re: Microwaved cat explodes
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:58:10 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada


 Has anyone asked their cats about this?

      :=:=> Derek K. Miller              dkmiller@unixg.ubc.ca
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From: lawson@acuson.com (Drew Lawson)
Subject: Re: N times more
Reply-To: lawson@aldia.UUCP (Drew Lawson)
Organization: ACUSON, Mountain View, CA
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:25:24 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.155824.22074@ee.und.ac.za> barrett@daisy.ee.und.ac.za (Alan P Barrett) writes:

>much", combined with the mistaken impression that "A is x percent more
>than B" implies "B is x percent less than A"

I've thought about that a lot in the past.  I think that most people
would be baffled when told that a 10% raise followed by a 10% cut
leaves them behind their original position.  Most would answer that
they end up where they started.

[Detail:  (N * 1.10) * 0.90 == N * 0.99]

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From: styri@hal.nta.no (YuNoHoo)
Subject: Re: Orange Julius (Re: Moxie, submarines)
Reply-To: styri@nta.no
Organization: Bohemians and Globetrotters, Unlimited
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 09:00:44 GMT

In <14b25cINNs9p@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, Cyndi Cuppernell writes:
>
>1 teaspoon vanilla extract

Are you sure it's "extract" and not just the 'vanilla flavour' thing
they make up from cheaper ingredients?

Btw., this must be the place to ask for a chicken flavour milk shake (frappe?).

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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:19:27 -0400 
From: Mary Rose Campbell <mc3d+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Cat colouration (was Re: Egg Creams)

 Mother Nature <gaea@zooid.guild.org> writes :

>White cats with blue eyes are quite often deaf. I'm not sure of the
>percentages for this one.


Also, white odd-eyed (one eye one color, one eye another color) cats
that have one blue eye are usually deaf in the ear on the same side of
the head as the blue eye.  

I think the deafness gene is somehow linked to both eye and coat color. 
i.e. the gene is right between the two recessive genes, and that the
mutation is common enough to exist in the majority (I've heard that it's
around 90% or more) of cats with those two traits.

mrc