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From: milind@agni.cc.nd.edu (Milind Saraph)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: The Quran and the Modern Science
Date: 30 Dec 92 00:53:56 GMT
Reply-To: milind@agni.cc.nd.edu (Milind Saraph)
Organization: Univ. of Notre Dame

imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes:

>The above mentioned subject is infact a book written by Dr. Bucaille.
>I am goint to present some of the excerpts from the same.

Here is what Pervez Hoodbhoy has to say about Bucaille:

****

Islam and Science, Pervez Hoodbhoy, Zed Books Ltd., 1991
ISBN 1-85649-025-4 (Paperback), Foreword by Prof Abdus Salam.

*****
Chapter 6/Page 67-68:

Maurice Bucaille:

"A French surgeon who turned spiritualist, Monsieur Bucaille shot into
prominence thorughout the Islamic world with the publication of his 
exegesis, The Bible, The Qur'an and Science."

****

"Bucaille's method is simple.  He asks his readers to ponder on some
Qur'anic verse and then, from a variety of meanings that could be 
assigned to the verse, he pulls out one which is consistent with some
scientific fact.  He thereupon concludes that, whereas the Bible is
often wrong in the description of natural pheonomena, the Qur'an is
ivariably correct and that it correctly anticipated all major 
discoveries of modern science."

****

"He ends the discussion of each topic with the ritual conclusion that
the marvelous agreement of Qur'anic revelations with the scientific 
fact is proof of its miraculous nature."

"Whereas Monsieur Bucaille appears eminently satisfied with his 
methodology, Muslims who wish to combine reason with faith will
readily detect at least two fundamental flaws in it even though`
they accept the divine nature of Qura'n."

"First it will be recognized that the proof of a proposition is 
meaningful only if the possibility of disproof is also to be
entertained. .... Since believers know that it is impossible for
the Qur'an to be wrong in any manner, all attempts at 'proving'
its divine nature are entirely specious from the start."

"Second, hanging an eternal truth on to the changeable thories of
science is a dangerous business."

****

"Observe that in Bucaille's book there is not a single prediction
of any physical fact which is unknown up to now, but which could be
tested against observation and experimentation in the future."

****

-- Milind Saraph
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From: fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: The Quran and the Modern Science
Date: 29 Dec 1992 17:46:10 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Salam writes:
>        What Dr.B has found through his
>objective study of the Qur'an is that it is not a book of science but it
>doesn't contradict the scientific knowledge rather it is much in agreement.

	someone has already posted how the B-study cannot be considered
	"objective". 


>in Cambridge in an interview very recently. Common people don't understand
>it and they buy it only bacause it looks impressive in the bookshelf. Also
>his work is very disputable. Talking about Hawking's work a well known
>physicist said "there was speculation, then wild speculation and then it
>was cosmology." Do you really want to start a scientific debate?

	who was this physicist? BTW, most of the work going on at the
	frontiers is debatable, for the simple reason that it's becoming
	harder to check it easily. That, in no way, reflects on Hawking's
	phenomenal reputation as "The Einstein on this side of fifties".

>   Salam.
>   ( a mathematical physicist)

	hmmm, a bit intimidatory :)

	FFT
From: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Attn: Urdu Gurus (was Aneeq Niazi and Baleegh Niazi)
Date: 27 Dec 1992 13:31:24 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: pageboy.cs.utexas.edu

In article <92360.195815OMAR@TRMETU.BITNET> FARHAN@TRMETU.BITNET (Farhan Aqeel Ahmad) writes:
:
:
:I am looking forward to get in touch with these people.
:
:
:Aneeq Niazi and Baleegh Niazi

Did I notice some thing amiss here?
Shouldn't it be "Faseeh" and "Baleegh" Niazi?
"Aneeq" seems out of place here?





Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
From: milind@agni.cc.nd.edu (Milind Saraph)
Subject: Re: The Quran and the Modern Science
Reply-To: milind@agni.cc.nd.edu (Milind Saraph)
Organization: Univ. of Notre Dame 
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 23:07:42 GMT

Vijay Fafat writes:

|>	You still don't get it, do you? Science can be talked about by
|>	the religious peepuls but it cannot be used alongside a divine
|>	being. Science rejects a divine cause for anything.

["You" refers to Salam here.]

Divine causes and supernatural entities are outside the purview of 
science.  Science has nothing to say about these.

-- Milind Saraph



                                      
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: nsiddiqi@nyx.cs.du.edu (Nadeem Siddiqi)
Subject: kill files
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 04:53:53 GMT


I know this is the wrong newsgroup for asking technical questions, but since
this is about the only group that I read....

How do I add someone's address to my kill file...so that if a particular
person is posting something, it will automatically get killed ?

Thanx

NadeemS


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From: imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Difference
Date: 25 Dec 92 04:09:26 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

In article <dbose.725242328@khamsin.aem.umn.edu> dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose) writes:
>nd3375@meibm5.cen.uiuc.edu (Nishit Dey) writes:
>
>>imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes:
>
>>>In article <1hd0r1INNfes@aludra.usc.edu> fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:
>
>
>>Lot of junks deleted
>
>
>>	Question - What is the difference between Mustafa Idiot and a DONKEY?
>
>>	Answer - Hmm.. let me think..  Yeah  Mustafa has a longer tail.
>
>>	Hey fafat , you want to add anything?
>
>	If you don't mind , Nishit , can I add something ?
>
>
>	Differences :
>
>	1) MUSTAFA has a cut **** , which the DONKEY doesn't have .
>
>	2) MUSTAFA has four wives , which the DONKEY doesn't have .
>
>		
>
>	Similarities :
>
>	1) Both are responsible citizens of Islamic Republic of
>
>		PAKISTAN


Thanks God I am a responsible citizen of Pakistan and have four wives and
not the citizen of Hindu republic of Bharat where women have been burned 
like roasted chicken. :-))))))))

I would prefer donkey over ni-shit, puppet and deepuck.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Washington Ready to Brand Pakistan a Terrorist State
From: shariq@charlie.usd.edu
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:24:04 GMT
Reply-To: shariq@charlie.usd.edu
 <dbose.724793192@khamsin.aem.umn.edu> <1992Dec19.213117.9208@beaver.cs.washington.edu>,<dbose.724807670@khamsin.aem.umn.edu>
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of South Dakota Computer Science Dept.

In article <dbose.724807670@khamsin.aem.umn.edu>, dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose) writes:
>hasan@cs.washington.edu (Shams Hasan) writes:
>
>>My dear Deepak Bose,
>    ^^^^
>
>	OOOOOOH !!  AAAAAH!!!  BABY DON'T USE SUCH HORNY WORDS FOR
>
>	ME ON THE NET . I ALMOST START C****** .

        Are you a faggot? By what you are saying I think you are! 
>
>	FROM SOME OF THE PREVIOUS ARTICLES OF YOURS , IT SEEMS THAT
>	YOU ARE PRETTY PROUD OF YOUR PATHANI + IRANI A** . SOME OF 
>	MY MALE FRIENDS HERE HAVE REALLY BECOME DESPERATE FOR YOU.

        Birds of a feather flock together you desperate fag.

>	YOUR ALLAH HAS GIVEN YOU A GREAT THING AND YOU SHOULD LET
>	OTHERS USE IT THOROUGHLY . IF YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH USERS      
>	IN UW , YOU CAN COME OVER TO UMN . PEOPLE HERE ARE REALLY
>	DYING FOR YOU . HOW ABOUT THIS CHRISTMAS BREAK ? FINE !
>
        I bet if he were to come there you would freak out faggot. It is
        typical to talk like a parrot but when you confront the people you 
        threaten you pass out.
>
>>Try to be more consistent, and PLEASE make an effort in writing in ENGLISH as
>                                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	
>	WHEN I DON'T WRITE IN ENGLISH IT MEANS THAT I DON'T WANT
>	MORONS LIKE YOU TO UNDERSTAND , BECAUSE YOU DON'T COMPLY
>	WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF HIGH INTELLECTUAL ABILITY TO 
>	READ AND APPRECIATE MY ARTICLE .

        Agreed you are a scholar destined for something equivalent of a summa 
        cum laude.
>
>		NOW , I HOPE THE REASON IS CLEAR TO YOU AND 
>	YOUR IDIOT FELLOW AMERICANS .
>
>	AND BY THE WAY , SINCE I WAS BORN & BROUGHT UP IN
>	HINDUSTAN , I AM REALLY PROUD OF USING HINDI
>	ON THE NET ,NOT A PSEUDO-PAKI LIKE YOU .
>
>	BORN IN DUBAI < BROUGHT UP IN AMERICA , HAS
>	AN IRANI + PATHANI BACKGROUND BUT STILL CALLS 
>	HIMSELF A PAKI .
>
>	HA  HA   HA   HA   HA  HA   !!!!
>
>
>		BYE BYE
>
>		SEE YOU IN THE CHIRSTMAS BREAK !
>
>		HAVE FUN WITH ALL FOUR !
>
>					Deepak
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Very impreesive that a fag is proud of his heritage. I am really proud of you 
Faggot.

Shariq.

_______________________________________________________________________________
Hail Pakistan, the world champions of the greatest sport in the world.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: amjad@qureshi.austin.ibm.com ()
Subject: DISGUSTED!!!!!!!
Keywords: all the *F* words!
Organization: IBM, Austin
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 19:31:18 GMT



 All Readers-
  After reading  about 100 or so SCP articles I came to the conclusion that 
  we should rename this group to names mentioned below:

  (*) Soc.filled.with.religious.bukwaas
  (*) soc.hindu.mulsim.fight
  (*) soc.*F*word.experts.
  (*) soc.muslim.maybe.maybeNot
  (*) soc.confused.
  (*) soc.SCI.attack.
  (*) soc.visa.F.J.B
  (*) soc.NoMutt.NoEnthu.         (figure this one out on your own!
                                   it is NOT dirty as some of you might think)

  I can keep going on and on.....
  This group is filled with this kinda of crapp and ridiculous articles. Why 
  cant't we write about Pakistan and NOT (Mulims/Hindu's, Ahmedi's, Cows,.....)
       
  G R O W  U P


 Amjad Qureshi
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
Subject: re: muslims - first line
Reply-To: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 30 Dec 92 20:58:45 EST

 >Dont feel sorry for us, not only do we have the BOMB, but routinely beat
 >the **** out of India in both cricket and hockey.
 >
 >sahibzada rafay khan [ may god make all of us more tolerant]

 SB> Hey boy,
 SB> Did u forget even the last one dayer we played (world cup) we
 SB> beat u by a considerable margin? What to do when we play against U guys
 SB> in pakistan Umpires forget about LBW . Real cricket lovers will know
 SB> how difficult is to get MAINDAD out when there is no LBW .
 SB> S.Baskar
 
But who won the World Cup, eh?  And we have an overwhelming
advantage in wins over India at Sharjah too, where NEUTRAL umpires
are used... Pakistan #1

Faraz Rabbani

... Give a man an inch, and he thinks he's a ruler.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: shamim@gypsum.egr.msu.edu (Tariq Shamim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Quaid-e-Azam's Birth Day
Date: 29 Dec 92 17:23:35 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Michigan State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: gypsum.egr.msu.edu

In article <1992Dec25.233944.1180@u.washington.edu>, rajat@carson.u.washington.edu (Rajat Singh) writes:
|> In article <1h7if2INNces@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> shamim@onyx.egr.msu.edu (Tariq Shamim) writes:
|> >
|> >To all Pakistanis and Freedom lovers,
|> >
|> >Happy Quaid Day (25 December)!!!!
|> >
|> >Please pay your tributes to the Founder of Pakistan, Quaid-e-Azam (Great Leader)
|> >Mohammed Ali Jinnah.  Only very few individuals can change the course of history
|> >or change the map of the world, he did both of them.  
|> >                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> 
|> 
|> and brought misery on the earth.
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
for coward people like you.

|> 
|> 
|> rks. 
|> 
|> 
|> >Tariq Shamim
|> >Mechanical Engineering
|> >Michigan State University
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali)
Subject: Re: punjabi dialect/langu
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 22:27:16 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.

In article <199231.4739.24648@dosgate> "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com> writes:
> rzz@po.CWRU.Edu (Reema Z. Zuberi) said:
> RZZ> In his post, Aftab Ahmad bemoans the demise of the Punjabi
> RZZ> language as he knows it.  But I remember a Punjabi friend once
> RZZ> telling me that Punjabi has no alphabet of its own (i.e. it uses
> RZZ> the same alphabets as Urdu).  If that is the case, then,
> RZZ> technically, Punjabi was never really a language in the first
> RZZ> place.  By the way, I am acquainted with Pakistanis who can and do
> RZZ> still speak "pure" Punjabi.
>
>But French, Spanish, English and other European languages share the
>same alphabet...  but they are languages in their own right...  a
>language is something that a people speak.  Many old languages never
>had an alphabet, but (since they were spoken) were most certainly
>languages...
>
>Faraz Rabbani
>
>... I multi-task.. I read in the bathroom!
>___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
>--
>Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
>World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044

Panjabi "has" a script called Gurmukhi. In Indian Panjab, it is still prevalent.
Why the script is not used in Pakistan is another issue. It's strange how some
people can start discussing a problem that doesn't exist.

Nadeem

-- 
Nadeem Jamali                                     jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca
						 
School of Computer Science			  
Technical University of Nova Scotia		  (902)420-7527  
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From: rajat@carson.u.washington.edu (Rajat Singh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Difference
Date: 25 Dec 92 23:13:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec25.231349.1012
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Dec22.165040.14726@slate.mines.colorado.edu> imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes:
>In article <1h507nINN2em@phakt.usc.edu> fafat@phakt.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:
>>Mustapha Ibrahim ponders:
>>>	Q.  What is the difference between man and animal ?
>>>	A.  Religion
>>
>>	No wonder the animal is better ...
>>
>>	
>      If animal is better go and live with it. You are wasting your
>                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>time here man.

We ARE living with you, aren't we?

rks.
From: pro@csx.scicor.sa
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: To the master of IDIOTS-SHAMS Hasan
Keywords: IDIOT
Date: 22 Dec 92 16:57:33 GMT
Reply-To: pro@csx.scicor.sa ()
Organization: scicor
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

Mr. Hasan,
          I am sick and tired of your mediocre 
postings lately on this net. It seems that you have 
serious deficiency of neurons in you head. You and
other thick headed people like you don't represent
the majority opinion of Pakistanis. Unfortunately, 
empty jars like you are good only for making noises.
The fact is, you are deep into the quagmire of
short sighted opinions and ironically trying to 
justify them without enough arguments.


MOHAMMAD ALI
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From: imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Difference
Date: 22 Dec 92 17:07:57 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

In article <1992Dec22.014051.27938@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp> f43703a@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp (SUPRATIC GUPTA) writes:
>
>mustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) Wtrites
>>Q.  What is the difference between man and animal ?
>
>>        A.  Religion
>
>Gupta> 
>
>But I don't have any religion now. I am in search of one though.
>I had abandoned my past religion for various reason.
>
>Do you really mean that there is no differences between me and Animal?
>Are you sure? You seem to act as if you are a great man. But think before
>you post. That is the greatest thing that Man has. I thought that was the
>difference though. Any way if your religion has asked you to stop thinking
>and there by making your brain use less, in that case I agree with you 100%
>The difference between you and any animal is religion. Great!!!!!
>
>
>-- 
>With regards
> 
>SUPRATIC GUPTA

The man thinks thats why he has religion. Now the question arises 
how many religions are there. There are many  for instance 
xtanity 
budhism
communism
carl ma'ism
judaism
hinduism
sikhism
shiaism
& islam  and many small others.
 After that we question which religion is the best ? Which religion
shold we adopt ? I mean which religion should we follow. The answ
is again quite simple. That religion is the best and the correct which
creates the largest and the greatest difference between animal and man.
Again it is very simple to analyze . For instance , take the example of 
alcohol. After drinking alcohol , it is a world wide experience and also
the medical science has proved it, the man becomes animal. Keeping this
in mind , when we go through all the religions we find that except  islam
no religion bars man to dirnk alcohol. 
Second criteria is the sex. Animal can have sex without any law. Man on
the other side ,if should be differentiated from animal, must have a
law for this buisness. 
Again when we go through all the religions we find that no religion except
islam provides a very strict law of having a sex without marriage. 
There are many other criteria on which we find islam the best way of life.
This is another story that muslims are not following islam the way they 
should. That is the main reason they are being killed everywhere,humiliated
everywhere and so on. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: The Quran and the Modern Science
Date: 2 Jan 1993 12:06:49 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Salam writes:
>> 	Excuse me but that's plain hogwash. Give me one physicist, mathematical
>> 	or otherwise, of Hawking's stature who's not well-disputed. Hawking
>> 	had God-like reverence even before he was to write the book. His
>> 	credibility does'nt beg propaganda but rather, rests on his own work.
>> 
>      Here you are! Hawking is "God-like" or virtual God :-|) for you then it
>is a matter of faith, isn't it? You have faith in Hawking and I don't because
>as a mathematical physicist I am his critic and colleague.


	No. I don't take Hawking on "faith". I don't go around saying, "This
	must be true *because* Hawking says it". Unlike you, who proclaims
	Quran to be the gospel *because* Muhammad says so. For me, Hawking is
	much more credible than Muhammad because he does'nt talk in the
	air like Quran does.

>> 	Why is Pervez irrelevant and busy B not? Pervez has some very good
>> 	comments on B.. and pretty pertinent ones.
>> 
>    Because we are not discussing Pervez or busy B here. Our subject is Dr.B's
>book. I won't let you change the topic. :-|)


	If B's book is all that we are discussing, then spare me. I have 
	much better things to read than his ob trash. i thought you were
	more interested in the broader implications.


>> 	He makes a pretty poor scientist since he seems to have forsaken the
>> 	basic tools of his trade. Milind, here's how Salam has been trying
>> 	to have the Quran as Divine and ascribe "scientific value" to it.
>> 
>      I didn't say that it is SCIENTIFIC interpretation instead I mentioned
>it as a SCIENTIST'S interpretation. Got the point?


	You've tried to obfuscate this before. Just because busy B is a 
	scientist DOES NOT make his interpretation a "Scientist's" 
	interpretation. It's surprising that you flaunt yourself as a
	mathematical physicist and still don't know the difference.

>> 	 To compare B with Paul Davies is ridiculous. And can you produce ONE
>> 	quote of Davies where he accepts the conventional God? His book

>      For you the comparision is ridiculous because one (Dr. B) talks about
>Islam and the other (P. Davies) talks about western theology. It is true
>that he never mentions a "conventional" God but tell me what he means when
>he refers to "western theology".
>

	No. I have the same bias against western theology as against Quran.
	Davies never talks about any GOD, western or otherwise. You would
	do yourself a favour by reading it more carefully. He does'nt
	support theology.


>>>     I don't understand why you take Hawking's work as the gospel truth. I 
>> 
>> 	And why do you take the Quran as the gospel truth?
>>
>     Did I ever say that?

	You've always implied it.

	FFT



Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: sahmed@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Saif Ahmed)
Subject: Re: Covenient memory lapse (Re: Other side of the coin
Followup-To: soc.culture.pakistan
	<NAEEM.92Dec22023430@occs.cs.oberlin.edu>
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:52:34 GMT
X-Posted-From: occs.cs.oberlin.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

   In article <1992Dec22.134433.13137@topaz.ucq.edu.au> salama@topaz.ucq.edu.au writes:
   >The articles I had read long ago which reflected the atrocities of the
   >mukti bahni are unfortunately not available here and I don't remember the
   >exact references. 

Sort of like "My dog ate my homework" isn't it????
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: S.G.Abbas@massey.ac.nz (S.G. Abbas)
Subject: Re: Mr. Altaf Hussain retires from politics
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 07:02:13 GMT



Everyone loves his own life. Altaf killed so many peolpe now it is/ was/
will be his turn. Even if he escaped, God is there. He will take His
revenage from not only Pir Altaf Bhai but all those politicians
including that of PPP, or IJA or anyone who were involved in killing of
innocent people.


Do you know the story of Ittefaque Foundry when a labour leader was put
alive into one of the kiln ? God knows everything. He will set things
right for everyone.


The man who used to say that "Yeh kusee buree mazboot hay" (This chair
{Prime ministership} is very powerful) was hanged by a General. And that
Gernal too was no where on earth or on sky. God burnt him to
unrecognizable extent. Why people do not take lessons from everyday
life.


Think everynight before sleep, what good or wrong you have done today.
It will help you graduakky to do more good things than bad things.

Ghazanfar
New Zealnad