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From: bertram@rchep.ph.unimelb.edu.au
Subject: RE: Reaperman Annotations
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:39:04 GMT

G'Day Leo,

I have just picked up your wonderful annotation file (the ps version). It is a
great document and you have done an incredible amount of work.

Here is some information on Reaperman

[p 132] ``On the fabled continent of Xxxx, somewhere near the rim, there is a
lost colony of wizards who wear corks around their pointy hats and live on
nothing but prawns.''

XXXX is indeed a brand of beer produced by Castlemaine brewery, they once had
an add witch included I can feel a XXXX coming on, which is unintentionally
amusing in Canada where XXXX is a brand of condoms.

The corks around the pointy hats refers to the traditional headwear of
Australian Swagmen (similar to American Hobos) who wear corks around the rim of
their hats to keep the flies off their face.

The shrimps reference comes from an Australian tourism add featuring Paul
Hogan in which he tells tourists to come on down to Australia and we'll toss
another shrimp on the Barbie for you. Hence the misconception that all
Australians cook shrimps on the BBQ. (Shrimps are bloody big prawns).

The rest of the quote refers to surfing, viewed as a national pass-time (most
of the best surfers in the world live here).

Hope this helps

Iain

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From: jonathan@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Mr J J Trevor)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Dedication in Morwood book
Date: 25 Jan 93 09:20:48 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.


Just wondered if Terry (or anyone else for that matter) was aware of
Peter Morwoods "Firebird" (he also wrote the DemonLord, DragonLord and
HorseLord trilogy (Yes, I know there is a forth but was written a lomg
time after the first three and wasnt nearly as good)). 

Anyhow, the dedication in the book is to Terry Pratchett and since Peter
Morwood is an english writer I suppose Terry and Peter may know each
other (?). Otherwise he must just like singing horses...a lot.


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Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
From: damiene@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Eccles)
Subject: Re: My tuppence
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 04:12:44 GMT

quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal) writes:

>In <damiene.727920729@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au> damiene@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Eccles) writes:

>>tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett) writes:

>Amazing!  Eccles came up with an original Theory, not stealing one of
>TP's ones.  Perhaps TP can return the favour . . . ?

Nuur, should have never lent you the books :)

>(Full Latin name: Rayus Cheesemanii.  This particular species of
>lecturer has the uncanny ability to cause knowledge not to be
>transferred to the university, but between students, and usually about
>things it has no pretensions about being able to teach.  Examples are:
>transfer of knowledge from books [typically TP ones but that is
>irrelevant] to students, transfer of knowlegde regarding various
>humorous statements between students [resulting in much mirth], and
>transfer of knowledge from a student's stomach to his/her brain, thus
>causing the student to leave the lecture theatre and go and have
>something to eat.)

Knowledge transmitted b/w students in the form of books.
Walked in there with a library once, came out with a novel.

Eccles
From: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: The Annotated Pratchett File, v5.0 - part 2 of 3
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:20:36 GMT
Reply-To: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH


In article <1993Jan27.215559.22939@black.ox.ac.uk>,
jo95004@black.ox.ac.uk (Daniel R Barlow) writes:
|>
|> Anyway, how do you 'conquer a pole'?  Actually it reminds me of - dare I say
|>the name - Douglas Adams (the Golgafrinchans (sp?) declaring war on an
|>uninhabited continent on prehistoric Earth, end of Restaurant)

Ask the Germans and Russians--they've been quite successful at conquering Poles
for centuries.

--PSW
From: nrp@csug3.cs.reading.ac.uk ("Independent direction socks" Neilski)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: The Annotated Pratchett File, v5.0 - part 1 of 3
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:54:59 GMT
Reply-To: nrp@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk
Organization: University of Reading

leo@cp.tn.tudelft.nl (Leo Breebaart) writes:

>+ [p. 73] "'Here's another fine mess you've got me into,' he moaned and
>  slumped backwards."

>  This is a well-known Laurel and Hardy catchphrase. [ But did Laurel
>  always say this to Hardy, or vice versa? ]

Hardy always said it to Laurel.  Usually followed by Laurel going
"Ollieee" and sounding like Cousin It.

>+ [p. 5] "Gods prefer simple, vicious games, where you Do Not Achive
>  Transcendence but Go Straight To Oblivion; [...]"

>  Probably the most famous chance card in Monopoly: "Go Directly To Jail.
>  Do Not Pass Go, do not collect $xxx"

>  [ Can anybody give me the exact text and the exact name for this type of
>  card? I only have the Dutch version of Monopoly to go on...]

The English version has "Go To Jail, Go Directly To Jail, Do Not Pass Go,
Do Not Collect \pounds 200"

>  This annotation may also help explain why over on alt.fan.pratchett
>  people have regularly and affectionally been known to refer to their
>  Favourite Author as 'Pterry'... (although the lazier participants usually
>  just refer to him as TP, confirm the sometimes bloody annoying Usenet
>  habit of acronymizing everything longer than two words or four
>  characters, whichever comes first. Hence DW stands for Discworld, TCOM
>  for "The Colour Of Magic", and so on).

Pterry was also a pterodactyl on the classic kids' TV programme "Jigsaw",
which also featured Sylvester McCoy and David Rappaport as the O-men.

Anyway, what about APF? :-)

-- neilski
more when i've read the rest (tomorrow)

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
From: dkf11@cl.cam.ac.uk (Donal K. Fellows)
Subject: Re: Small Gods Annotations
Reply-To: dkf11@phx.cam.ac.uk
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Distribution: alt
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 21:35:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.204202.2174@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> daniel@scs.leeds.ac.uk (D N Crow) writes:
>In article <C1BM70.AAG@acsu.buffalo.edu>, meachem@acsu.buffalo.edu (The Meach) writes:
>|> In article <1993Jan23.165257.28397@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> daniel@scs.leeds.ac.uk (D N Crow) writes:
>|> >For American's out there, British rail are either the nationalised railway
>|> >system in the UK or a running national joke. Or perhaps both.
>|> 
>|> Well, Dan. . . British Rail may well be a national joke, but the question
>|> of it running is precisely the point, is it not? ;->
>
>Arghh... hit two on that one. Yes. Mea culpa, I'm afraid. A joke too bad, too
>low, too lacking in wit for even my meagre brain cell to have spotted. Sorry.
>

Soon, if the government have their way, it will be privatised, but
only in lots of little pieces! There will be one company owning most
of the track, and masses of companies competeing to run trains on
them, and some of these companies will be owners of parts of track,
and some will be partially subsidised, and some will have highly
overpaid management (only this last item is really certain :) but all
will still complain about having the wrong sort of leaves/snow/metal
benches! (this last is for people who remember an incident last year
at an unmanned station...)

>|> 
>|> --Jo
>|> ". . .sends news to hundreds or even thousands of sites throughout the
>|> civilised world -- as well as to Leeds."
>
>What lies, what terrible lies. Anyway, I too shall soon fly to pastures new.
>Watch this space.

Oh, I don't know, they seem to be slightly civilised in Leeds. Just
not very! :) :) :)

Donal. (and no, I am not from Leeds, but I don't care about your
        flames anyway! :)
--
If the opinions above are anyone else's, that's their problem.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
From: Anne F. Antoine
Subject: Pathetic Request
Reply-To: aantoine@ens-lyon.fr
Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure de Lyon
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1993 21:29:19 GMT

Hi everybody, just another french frog who caught up the virus
and please, please, everybody round here is speaking of the rules for cripple mister onion, do not let me die of ENVY, that would be messy, it's already enough to have to wait for months before getting hold of the books
send the rules and the explanations, I would be grateful forever... or quite

Anne

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     \wwwwwww/  |	1.  the bigger the theory, the better
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       \MMM/    |	    more than 50% of the observed easurments must be  
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:24:25 EST
From: <CSD108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Favourite books : The solution ?

In article <memo.889482@cix.compulink.co.uk>, tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
(Terry Pratchett) says:
>
>But those people of the American persuasion haven't seen anything after
>Reaper Man...so are you going to weight the results?
>
>Terry

Hey. Just got Witches Abroad on Saturday, so things have improved slightly.

--Craig D.

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From: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett)
Subject: TP's big drive                          
Cc: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:04:00 +0000

In answer to all those who mailed me saying 'what do you want such a big disc
drive for?" the answer is that, when I log on to a.f.p., I get it ALL, HERE,
on this little PC -- so on top of the mail and the stuff from CIX I also get,
every month, the Annotated File from that nice Mr Breebaart (I'm not
_complaining_, you understand.)  Downloads yesterday were almost 400k.  And
there all the writing drafts I save.  So when I found myself shuffling stuff
on the 200 meg drive I thought 'I don't HAVE to be stuck for disc space, hey,
I have a Mastercard'. That's where your money goes, folks...

Terry
From: ssammy@cs.strath.ac.uk (Paul Sammy 4th Year iE/CES)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: A ridiculus thread about 'Doms (was Re: Rankin.)
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:25:41 GMT
	<1993Jan25.110118.16495@csd.uwe.ac.uk>
	<1993Jan25.161928.20858@infodev.cam.ac.uk>
Organization: Information Engineering
In-reply-to: dkf11@cl.cam.ac.uk's message of 25 Jan 93 16:19:28 GMT

>Regarding Re: Rankin.; dkf11@cl.cam.ac.uk (Donal K. Fellows) adds:
 > Nntp-Posting-Host: tadlow.cl.cam.ac.uk

 > In article <1993Jan25.110118.16495@csd.uwe.ac.uk> ma_blase@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Fox) writes:
>>Paul Sammy 4th Year iE/CES (ssammy@cs.strath.ac.uk) wrote:
>>> 
>>>  > Whats wrong with glow in the dark condoms?
>>>  > P.
>>>  > -- 
>>> 
>>>   What worries ME is: what kind of radioactive compound do they use
>>>   to make them glow? :-)
>>>
>>
>>Oh gawd,  think about the cancer!
>>

 > Such naiveity! Glow in the dark condoms work by having a light bulb in
 > them. When you plug them in to the wall socket, they light up.... :)

   And just *how* do you plug em into the wall?
   <thinks>
   gulp..!

 > Donal.
 > --
 > If the opinions above are anyone else's, that's a miracle

  Paul
--

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From: ajl@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Lewis AJ)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Realism in Guards!Guards!
Date: 22 Jan 93 10:08:34 GMT

In <1993Jan15.120741.13875@garland.bt.co.uk> jeremy@garland.bt.co.uk (Jeremy Pavier) writes:

>The other day I asked her if she had finished it. Yes she had and
>she was most disappointed. She felt that the romance between Errol
>and the female Draco Nobilis was "completely unrealistic". While she
>could presumably handle the concepts of the Discworld, Dragons, Wizards, etc,
>she was completely unable to accept that such a large dragon could be
>won by such a small male. When I said that I thought there was supposed
>to be an element of comic effect there, I was verbally assaulted on the 
>viability of "weak jokes" and generally felt that I should have left
>my copy of the book on the shelf and let her read the Sun like all the
>other intellectuals.

Ask her whether she's ever seen a small scottish terrier (or something smaller
that I can't remember how to spell) trying to seduce a Great Dane. The sort of
moment when a dog wishes it could fly.

Andy


-- 
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Department of Electronics        | A juggler without a theme...
and Computer Science             | 
University of Southampton        |
From: robinv@castle.ed.ac.uk (Rob Vickery)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Reaper man...
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:54:03 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University Computing Service

In article <30767@castle.ed.ac.uk>, robinv@castle.ed.ac.uk (Robin Vickery) writes:
 
 Nik Clayton writes:
>
>When the new DEATH comes for Bill Door, what exactly, transpires? As I read it...
>
>The scythe has not been 'killed', so Bill Door has no weapon. New DEATH is just >about to kill him when Mrs Flitworth appears. Then what happens? From what I can >gather, she has given Bill some of her time, the same way he gave Sal some of >his?
>
>So far so good. Bill Door then picks up a handy (non-dead scythe) and kills new >DEATH? This is the bit I don't get. It seems to be the ultimate example of >someone cheating the Grim Reaper, something we all know can't be done.
>
>So what am I missing?

The way I see it is that because Sal gives Him some of her life he's able
to pick up non-dead (or un-alive) objects, The Harvester was not _really_
Death until it had killed Bill Door, because you can't have two Deaths.
Bill Door does after all have some experience in people trying to cheat
Death whereas the Harvester is a mere beginner.

 	-rob
 
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sorry wrong distribution on it
From: meachem@acsu.buffalo.edu (The Meach)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Small Gods Annotations
Date: 23 Jan 93 19:01:47 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: UB

In article <1993Jan23.165257.28397@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> daniel@scs.leeds.ac.uk (D N Crow) writes:

Hey, there!  Lookee who's alive and well!

>For American's out there, British rail are either the nationalised railway
>system in the UK or a running national joke. Or perhaps both.

Well, Dan. . . British Rail may well be a national joke, but the question of
it running is precisely the point, is it not? ;->

--Jo
". . .sends news to hundreds or even thousands of sites throughout the
civilised world -- as well as to Leeds."
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
From: quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: My tuppence
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:32:21 GMT
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.

In <1k0nv0EINN457@uni-erlangen.de> uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann) writes:

>slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth "the Lesser") writes:

>>damiene@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Eccles) writes:
>>>
>>>Are you suggesting that knowledge is also affected by the second law
>>                                    I think you mean first ^^^^^^
No, second.  The 2nd law says that "Heat can't pass from a cooler to a
warmer body", or "In a closed system, entropy always increases" (that's
saying the same thing twice).

>>>of thermodynamics? 

>So, how low must the knowledge density in such a person be to not only
>suck all the knowledge from its vicinity, but also to create a knowledge
>event horizon, out of which no knowledge whatsoever can ever be re-
>trieved again, no matter how much educational energy spent?

Perhaps not.  And perhaps thought can't propogate at all.  Here are the
options:
1. The speed of thought is infinite.  This has often been stated in TP's
books as well as elsewhere.  Now, if thought obeys the same rules as
electromagnetic radiation, then this partial differential equation is
true:
        d^2 w      1  d^2 w
        -----  +  --- -----   =  0
        dt^2      c^2 dx^x

(That formula has got some wrong symbols but the basic premise is
correct.)  Now if the speed, c, is infinite, it becomes

        d^2 w
        -----  =  0
        dt^2

which has no wave solution.  So waves with an infinite speed can't
propogate.  So if knowledge is not only power, but thought as well, then
this theory is up a certain tributary without a certain implement.

2. The speed of thought is finite.  If thought moves at a speed that is
very high indeed (faster than light) then the solution to that equation
is possible, although they will propogate with great difficulty.  This
explains why EM radiation moves so easily (it's slow) but thought
doesn't like to shift unless it is being forced.  (This is giving me a
great idea. . .  Let me post it separately.)

Well, there you have it.  Like I said, I'm the second lunatic, Eccles
being the other, who fills in all the technical details.

Tim Pickett

>May the Coo-coo goo goo goo gagaga--

>(C)OOL xcvmmiildvv
>No ledge is power.
From: casimira@hq.lcs.mit.edu (Paula Mickevich)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: east of sun, west of moon
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:58:52 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science


Three citations on this question by Leo:
  'East of the Sun, West of the Moon': a fairly well-known phrase used a.o.
  by Tolkien in a poem, by Theodore Roosevelt for a book on hunting, and by
  pop-group Aha as an album title. It originally is the title of an old
  Scandinavian fairy tale, and can be found in a book by Kay Nielsen
  [title, anybody?]. Terry has confirmed that this book was his source for
  the phrase.

|   AUTHOR: Nielsen, Kay Rasmus, 1886-l957.
|    TITLE: East of the Sun and West of the Moon :
|           old tales from the North /
|    PLACE: Garden City, N.Y. :
|PUBLISHER: Garden City,
|     YEAR:
| PUB TYPE: Book
|   FORMAT: 204 p. : ill. ; 26 cm.
|  SUBJECT: Fairy tales.
|           Tales, Norwegian


   AUTHOR: [Asbjornsen, Peter Christen] 1812-1885. 1n
|    TITLE: East of the sun and west of the moon;
|           old tales from the north,
|    PLACE: New York,
|PUBLISHER: G.H. Doran Company
|     YEAR: 1922
| PUB TYPE: Book
|   FORMAT: 5 p. l., 9-204 p. col. front., illus., col. pl. 24 cm.
|    NOTES: "Stories in this book ... originally appeared in Sir G.W.
            Dasent's 'Popular tales from Norse,'" by P.C. Asbjornsen and
|           J.I. Moe.
|  SUBJECT: Fairy tales, Norwegian.
|           Folk-lore, Norwegian.
|    OTHER: Moe, Jorgen Engebretsen, 1813-1882, joint author. 2n
|           Nielsen, Kay, illus. cn
|           Dasent, George Webbe, Sir, 1817-1896, tr. 2n

|   AUTHOR: Asbjornsen, Peter Christen, 1812-1885.
|    TITLE: East of the sun and west of the moon :
|           old tales from the North /
|    PLACE: [London] :
|PUBLISHER: Hodder & Stoughton,
|     YEAR: 1900
| PUB TYPE: Book
|   FORMAT: 206 [i.e. 205] p., 24 leaves of plates : ill. ; 25 cm.
|    NOTES: Translated by Sir George Webbe Dasent from Asbjornsen and Moe's
|           "Norske folke-eventyr."
|  SUBJECT: Fairy tales.
|           Folk-lore, Norwegian.
--
paula mickevich              MIT
casimira@hq.lcs.mit.edu      Laboratory for Computer Science
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From: damiene@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Eccles)
Subject: Re: My tuppence
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:12:09 GMT

tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett) writes:

>We call universities storehouses of knowledge.  This must mean that knowledge
>builds up within universities.

>Talk to someone before they go to university, and it's clear that they know
>everything about everything.  Talk to them just before their finals, and they
>admit to knowing damn all about anything.  They've added to the university's
>store of knowledge, see?

but this violates the second law of thermodynamics, as it states that 
energy (knowledge) should flow from a high state (a storehouse) to a low
state, so as people pass throught the university, the universities knowledge
shoudl decrease and the person's knowledge should increase, to the point where
both the uni and the people entering and leaving it should have the 
same level of knowledge..... unless a lecturer can be used as a knowledge
pump.
Right, new extension. A lecturer _is_ in fact a knowledge pump, and it
behaves in the following manner. A student, knowing enough about a lecture
subject to allow his/herself to be enrolled, enters the lecture hall (is it
possible this is why we have cut off scores - because a lecturer is only
so effiecient over a certain knowledge level?) and seats himself/itself etc.
During the period of the lecture, the lecturer slowly but surely sucks 
knowledge from the student, and pumps it into the university, thus creating
more bait for the next year of students.
In the course of the semester, the student is totally pumped of any knowledge
of the subject that he or she had, thus the usual statement 'I know nothing',
	This has caused a form of evolution, resulting in different species
of lecturers, depending on their way of draining knowledge.
	Some lecturers (cheesmanus) have unfortunately evolved the
talent for driving students away from their lectures, and thus are
becoming rarer.

Eccles