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From: ias2033@FRONTIER.DRAPER.COM (Ike Stoddard)
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Subject: Re: AREXX Programing Dos and Arrays
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:47:07 GMT
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              "BARNETTJ%SNYSYRV1.BITNET@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu" at Aug 14,
              92 10:44 am

" BARNETTJ%SNYSYRV1.BITNET@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu writes --"
>
> As to the suggestion of "RTFM about these..." in regard to why I can't
> get the array to work in my arexx program....you failed to note that this
> is a script for within ProWrite.  Trace ALL does not appear to work
> from within Prowrite.  Such remarks are uncalled for and in poor taste
> This is especially true if you fail to have the full circumstances of
> an individual's question at your fingertips. This forum is for learning.
> To assume that everyone on the net is working at the same "ELITE" level
> of experience in all aspects of the
> Amiga is foolish. Moreover, if you are functioning as a novice in
> regard to a particular aspect of the AMIGA (or anything for that matter)
> the actual documentation supplied with the software (or hardware, etc.)
> may not be written in such a way for a newcomer to understand!
>
> So.  To individuals like Mr. Ike Stoddard....Kindly refrain from
> such demeaning replies to legitamate questions such as RTFM.  We all
> have not entered this work omnipotent as you!
> BarnettJ@snysyrv1.bitnet"

Ooof.  I didn't see that tone in my reply.  Sorry you got that from
it.  I should have put some 8-)8-) next to the RTFM, perhaps?  Anyway,
the reply should have been private.  I am making this "apology" public.

In the spirit of helpfulness,
1)  Have you tried invoking "tco" before entering prowrite?  I used
it thus and worked on VLT scripts last year.  (Of course, PW != VLT)
2)  I will still try to look up my notes at home about ARexx debugging,
if you're still in need of help.
3)  Have you called ProWrite's tech support?  Sounds like a fine
thing for them to be fielding, getting a trace of a macro execution,
and I wouldn't let them get away with "We dunno....".  You bought
a supported product, you deserve some of their support.
4)  If 1-3 aren't helpful enough to you, you still have my best wishes
that your frustration with the macro goes away soon.

--
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STODDARD@DRAPER.COM	Manned Space Systems, Draper Laboratory, Inc.
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From:         "Adri Mathlener" <CAT@RUGR86.RUG.NL>
Subject:      New Amiga Goodies ???

In the september number of an English Amiga magazine there was some news on
several things:

- Lisa : A new (or replacement) chip for better Graphics (1280*1024) 24 Bits

the chip comes from C=. Also mentioned that in the new C= machines onl 68830-
processors will be used instead of 68020 chips.


- Montage : A gfx program a la AdPro & Imagemaster.


I will pick up a copy of the magazine and if anyone;s interested i will enter
extra information.

My question: Has anyone else heard about the above things???



- Adri

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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 07:25:42 -0400
From:         CAMACHO@ECSUC.CTSTATEU.EDU
Subject:      Amiga Chip Set
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Hi, let me start off by saying that I am NOT a developer, or a
employee of CBM. I came accros this info on a PD board. I feel that
as Amiga owners who have seen their beloved Amigas surpased in some
areas, it will bring a smile to us. Keep in mind that this info
could be old, but it does give us an idea of what to expect...

Standard Disclaimers... (Actually, a whole page.)

The capabilities of the built-in Amiga graphics hardware had not changed
significantly between the introduction of the Amiga 1000 in 1985 and
the release of the Amiga 3000 in 1990. The ECS chipset and the display
enhancer added several new graphic modes and increased the fuctionality
of existing modes -- yet the market demands more.
Commodore is working on a graphics chipset which will include many
sustantial new features.
(Stuff deleted...)

Enhanced Bandwidth - A 32 bit wide data bus allows doubling of memory
bandwidth (to 2x the normal bandwidth) and supports the input of 32
bit wide bitplane and sprite data. Bandwidth may be doubled again (to 4x
by using Fast Page Mode RAM.)
More Bitplanes - The maximum number of bitplanes has increased to 8 in
all resolution modes. This translates to a 256 entry color table for each
available mode.
Enhanced Dual Playfield support - Each playfield may now have up to 4
bitplanes. The bank of 16 colors in the 256 color table is independenty
selectable for each playfield.
Larger palette - Each entry in the color table may now be 25 bits wide
(8 bits each for R,G,B data - plus 1 bit for genlock info.)
This translate to a palette of 16,777,216 colors.
Enhanced Sprite support - sprite resolution can be set to lores, hires, or
superhires, independent of screen resolution. Attached sprites are now
available in all modes.
Enhanced hardware scrolling - 2 extra bits allow seamless scrolling of up
to 64 bit wide bitplanes in all resolutions. The resolution
of bitplane scrolling has been increased to 35ns.
ECS compatibility -

Well, I have posted the most interesting lines... This document is
very long, it goes on to talk about using the new chips, known no-nos,
ensuring compatibility, and other things. I hope this info is true
and not a 'Cruel rumor... '

Carlos
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:07:04 -0500
From:         flasar@WUGCRC.WUSTL.EDU
Subject: Re: SOME GOOD AMIGA PUBLICITY
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Regarding Doug Barney going to InfoWorld:
    INFOWORLD is a MAJOR trade magazine.  It's usually sent, free, to system
managers throghout the US. It's not just a PC magazine, but covers minis,
mainframes and workstations as well.  I hope that he'll be able to offer some
coverage of the Amiga, but that mag doesn't really cover multimedia, graphics
or indeed, any creative computing activities very much; pretty much of a
business mag.
    By the way, when will this change of editors happen?  I got my latest
AmigaWorld yesterday and he was still at the helm.
       Dan Flasar
       Washington U School of Medicine
       St. Louis, MO
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From: adrake@bluemoon.rn.com (Andy Drake)
Subject: What is....
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 16:14:10 EDT

What is the address to CATS, anyway? I was thinking about doing it, but I 
have no idea of whom to contact or talk to. Anyone have any information? 
Thanks,

                -Andy

Thanks verrrrrrry much in advance!

 This is from
     adrake@bluemoon.rn.com
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:06:31 -0400
From:         Dan Riley <dsr@LNS598.TN.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Static Column? Can I use A3000 ZIPS?
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tkt@VAX5.CIT.CORNELL.EDU writes:
>	Just wondering if I could use A3000 static column 256X4 ZIPS in my
>SupraRam RX.  The RX takes 256X4 Zip Drams,  but it doesn't mention anything
>about static column.  What is static column?  Can I use them?

Hi Adam,

The short answer is, if the RX takes normal 80 ns page mode 256kX4
DRAM ZIPs, then A3000 static column ZIPs should work fine--the static
column parts are a pin-compatible superset of normal page mode DRAM.
Static column parts are normally more expensive than vanilla page
mode, so it might not be worthwhile unless you've got a deal on
static column parts.

The long answer is, dynamic memory is usually addressed in two steps,
row address and column address.  Static column DRAMs are like normal
page mode DRAMs with an additional mode, where you can tell it (by
holding the row address strobe (RAS) low after the memory cycle ends)
that the next several accesses will all be on the same page, so only
the column addresses will be sent.  This works nicely with the 68030's
burst mode (where the CPU fills an entire cache line in one "burst"
access--on a 25 MHz A3000, normal RAM access takes 5 clocks, but
second and subsequent burst cycles take 2 clocks using static column
DRAMs).

--
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:42:00 EDT
From:         DELANEYD@SNYSYRV1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: 2.0 ROM for the A3000

Andrew,

        I don't think that what your friend is doing can be considered illegal
as he has the rom in his possession.  He has paid for 2.04 and is merely using
its image rather than the rom itself.  My 3000 doesn't have a full 2.04 rom and
the majority of my kickstart is on my HD.  If I had to boot by rom alone, I
couldn't-- I need to use the image on the HD.  Now, if he hadn't of bought
2.04 and was using an image, that would be another story.

        ->dave
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 08:19:40 CDT
From:         David McGhee <DMCGHEE1@UA1VM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Upgrading My VXL On My Own!
              16 Aug 1992 17:54:59 EST from <sbaker@STARL.MIAMI.FL.US>

On Sun, 16 Aug 1992 17:54:59 EST Stephen Baker said:
>Ok! I need some advice from some VXL Guru's.
>
>I want to upgrade my VXL 30/25mhz Accelerator to 50 Mhz!
>
>What I propose to do is replace the 030/25 with a 030/50 and also replace the
>crystal 25.000mhz to 50.000mhz. Will this work?!
>Please respond. Thanks in Advance!

This will only work if it was designed to run at the faster speed.  Some
companies will save money by putting slower chips in a design that would
work at twice the speed.  Question is:  Are you willing to take the risk?
(of losing the money...030/50 don't come cheap)

And you may want to look at the crystal already in the VXL (is this an accel.?)
chances are it is a 50 Mhz or 100 Mhz.  This gets divided down by 2 or 4.
If this is the case you would need a 100 Mhz or 200 Mhz crystal (resp.)!
>
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 09:18:21 LCL
From:         Mark <PC31@PRIMEB.DUNDEE.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: No mail?

Bradley,

Your mail to I-AMIGA is reaching Scotland UK so I think that it's ok.
I did not get any mail for a couple of days, but it's ok again.
Hope this helps!

Mark.

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 11:35:00 EST
From:         doleckma <DOLECKMA@SNYALFVA.BITNET>
Subject:      re: HELP

Davide -
        Sounds like the problem is with kermit.  Make sure you set your file
type to binary on both ends when you are downloading.

Example for VMS kermit:

$ kermit
KERMIT> SET FILE TYPE BINARY
KERMIT> SEND "YOUR.FILE"

Good luck.

Mark Dolecki    doleckma@snyalfva       Computer Specialist -- Alfred Tech
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From:         ISERRANO@UCRVM2.BITNET
Subject:      Re: ARRRGH! I NEED TO MAKE A DEMO FAST!
              21 Aug 1992 00:22:03 GMT from <luforum@CS-ACAD-LAN.LAKEHEADU.CA>

Chris:

MultiPlayer 1.30 (available on wuarchive.wustl.edu) can be controlled using
an AREXX script.  There is maybe an IFF displayer around that could be
controlled in a similar manner, so orchestrating your presentation could be
done as you want...

Mario Serrano    UCRVM2.bitnet    Costa Rica
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 10:44:00 EDT
From:         BARNETTJ@SNYSYRV1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: AREXX Programing Dos and Arrays

As to the suggestion of "RTFM about these..." in regard to why I can't
get the array to work in my arexx program....you failed to note that this
is a script for within ProWrite.  Trace ALL does not appear to work
from within Prowrite.  Such remarks are uncalled for and in poor taste
This is especially true if you fail to have the full circumstances of
an individual's question at your fingertips. This forum is for learning.
To assume that everyone on the net is working at the same "ELITE" level
of experience in all aspects of the
Amiga is foolish. Moreover, if you are functioning as a novice in
regard to a particular aspect of the AMIGA (or anything for that matter)
the actual documentation supplied with the software (or hardware, etc.)
may not be written in such a way for a newcomer to understand!

So.  To individuals like Mr. Ike Stoddard....Kindly refrain from
such demeaning replies to legitamate questions such as RTFM.  We all
have not entered this work omnipotent as you!
BarnettJ@snysyrv1.bitnet"
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:50:00 CET
From:         Pawel Galas <GALASP@PLWATU21.BITNET>
Subject:      Supra HD help needed

My friend has Supra Seried II Word Sync 80 MB HD.
Unfortunelly He lost program SupraMount (virus I think). Now He can't use
full disk capacity, because system see only one partition.

Can anyone help him ?
(The best way will be send program SupraMount on my account in uuencoded
form)

Pawel Galas GALASP@PLWATU21.BITNET
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:50:08 EDT
From:         Ike Stoddard <ias2033@FRONTIER.DRAPER.COM>
Subject:      Re: AREXX Programing Dos and Arrays
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              "BARNETTJ%SNYSYRV1.BITNET@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu" at Aug 13,
              92 11:17 am

" BARNETTJ%SNYSYRV1.BITNET@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu writes --"
>
> I am having problems with constructing a loop with a nested array in
> AREXX
>

...and examples are given...

> When this array is later called up to print out the array "street",
> all I get is the last entered data printed number times!
>
[...]
> BarnettJ@snysyrv1.bitnet

whenever I am faced with exploring a new facet of ARexx, I use
OPTIONS trace (syntax?)
and
tco   to open the trace console window...

Suggest you RTFM about these.  Can't be more accurate/elaborate,
'cause my manual's at home and I'm not.

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From: overlord@megalith.miami.fl.us (Carlos Amezaga)
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Subject: Re:      TELECOMMUNICATIONS SOFTWARE
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Quoted from <...unknown> by         YDEZTJA@IUP.BITNET:
> Now that I have installed the new 2.04 ROMs, I find my old
> 'Online Platinum' is not compatible. I could just go down to 1.3OS,
> but I guess it is time to upgrade.
> I need an inexpensive, but versitile Telecommunications package.
> Ideas??????
> 
> P.S. For all of those who also confirmed that my CIAs were bad last week,
> you were right, thanks!
> 
> Captain *CRASH*

	Ever try JR-Comm?  I use it on V2.04 all the time without a
problem.  It has everything I would need.  What are you looking for in a
Package?

Carlos
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From:         LH@SELDC52.BITNET
Subject:      Emplant (was 8 color Workbench)

Hi!
>  Now all I have to do is go out and FIND Amazing Amiga somewhere.
>Considering there are no Amiga stores in my area and all the others don't
>carry Amiga magazines......  Is there anyone else that can ANSWER the
>question?

I think so...
I found this on NetNews/comp.sys.amiga.emulations.
Mail him, and he'll tell you all about it!!!!

>Who makes the Emplant and when is/was it's scheduled release date?

Jim Drew - Vice President, Utilities Unlimited, Inc.
           jdrew@cryo.rain.com
   1641 McCulloch Blvd. Suite #25-124    Lake Havasu City, AZ  86403
 (602) 680-9004 {office}      (602) 680-9006 {FAX}    (602) 453-9767 {BBS}

>Andrew / Iby41@Uriacc.Uri.Edu

Lars
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From:         Arc Wave <arc@JUDY.INDSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Thanks AMAX II save Prefs
X-To:         i-amiga%ubvm@uicvm.uic.edu

	Thanks for the responses I've received, I am glad now that I can
save my Control Panel settings without any problems (works with my System
6.0.7, and a friends 7.x).  Get diskparam.sit.hqx from wuarchive.wustl.edu
in the directory (cd into it):

	 /mirrors3/archive.umich.edu/mac/system.extensions/init

Paul
"works great!"
BTW, how does one get AMAX II (not PLUS) work with System 7?


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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:31:33 EDT
From:         John <JGRAHAM@UDCVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      A3000T's with 040's

I just saw an ad for the A3000T that says it is now shipping with
the 68040 as the main cpu on the mother board.
Has anyone seen this new version of the A3000T, and what was the price?


John Graham                                               TV Systems Engineer
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From:         Lance Tagliapietra <96720919@UCS.UWPLATT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: .NET files.. what are they for
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From:   EARTH::96720919     "Lance Tagliapietra" 21-AUG-1992 09:59:11.90
To:     IN%"smith@crs.cl.msu.edu.UUCP"
CC:     96720919
Subj:   RE: .NET files.. what are they for

>Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:06:37 GMT
>From: Kimberly Smith <smith@CRS.CL.MSU.EDU>
>Subject: .NET files.. what are they for
>
>ok, ok  I downloaded this hardware hack discription and like most hacks
>it had a .NET file.. 2 infact.. but unlike most it carried no diagram or
>instructions
>Is .NET somthing that can be read by a cad or electronics design program
>let me know... and is there a shareware or public domain circuit designt
>software (hey! hardware would be great.. a little robot arm with a soldering
>iron
>iron.... )
>thanx in advance
>ps the file was new14_acc.lha (or somthing of the sort)

I am looking at the file you mention.  The archive contains several diagrams,
that's what all the .iff files are.  The .net files just list all the
connections that are in the circuit.  The archive came with a readme file
and a layout.doc file, along with directory of speed comparisons.  By the
way, the full filename for the archive is new14acc_31.lha, which can be
downloaded from wuarchives ab20 snapshot (I got it from ab20 originally).

-Lance
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