From: g89r4222@kudu.ru.ac.za (Geoff Rehmet)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: Absence of black posters from SA
Date: 12 Nov 92 10:18:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: kudu.g89r4222.721563530
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa

In <9418@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> pmmst8+@pitt.edu (Paul M Mweene) writes:

>In article <BxHLLE.25w@casper.cs.uct.ac.za> gds@cs.uct.ac.za writes:
>>pmmst8+@pitt.edu (Paul M Mweene) writes:
>>Blacks are allowed to play.  You don't believe me?  Ask the students of 
>>Luhlaza High School in Khayalitsha, or Alexander High in what use to be 
>>District 6.  They are not the only "black schools" that received free 
>>computers and now receive free computer education with the help of 
>>volunteers, some of which are staff and students in this department.
>>


>I know boers, they are all liars down to the last one.
Which "boers" do you know?  Tell us their names - I'm sure they won't be
scared of you revealing their identity :-) 

>I am not asking you to find an obscure primary school whic has one comp
>uter and parade it as an example of opportunity for black people. What
>about the students in you University, why are the blacks not allowed
>to post.
Show us any regulations from a university in South Africa which prevent
black students or staff from posting to the net.  If students who are
not "white" were not allowed access to facilities which would permit
them access to the net, then they would not be able to complete their
studies, especially in subjects like Computer Science and Business
Information Systems.

(BTW - computers are very thin on the ground in ANY schools in this
country - not even most so-called "white" schools have computers, and if
so, generally only for admin purposes.)

>A black man who wants to go in the sciences is discouraged. Most of the
>amenities are reserved for whites. The student union is infiltrated by
Sorry, but the Separate Amenities Act is gone - all facilities at
universities in South Africa are available to students and staff
regardless of colour.


> Every thing say and do is monitored and has sometimes come back to haunt
>many blacks. The computers are adminstered by the University which is state
>supported and has a responsibility to project a good image of the country
>(here the line was suspiciously getting noisy)
Sheesh -- I thinks Jacot's right - you watch too much TV.  (lousy TV at
that.) 

>I asked them if they used the computer at all. They said yes but only for
>homework and other academic stuff. Everything was strictly monitored by
>the white supervisers and printing of personal stuff was discouraged and
>in the case of blacks illegal. I expalined the debate on the net. They
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Your immagination is certainly running wild ! 

>told me that South Africa had not changed. They told me that one of their
>professors had just called the blacks in class 'kaffirs'.

Hm.  Your attempt at "creative writing" (sorry Jacot) hasn't been 
very good.  I must admit that you make a very graphic display of
imagination.  Your grip on the facts is however rather limited.

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My Mark for You : 17% - definitely a FAIL.
Better luck next time ;-)  - try and do some more background reading
before your next attempt.
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Have a nice day!
Geoff.
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