HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dana@locus.com (Dana H. Myers)
Subject: DoD speed limit or target? (was Re: It's gradually getting louder?!?)
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 00:40:22 GMT

In article <11306@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
>
>
>(Uhhhhh, ever try leaning 
>over to hear what's going on under your bike, while holding your helmet
>in one hand, and driving in Houston freeway traffic at a large percentage
>of the official DoD speed limit?  hehehe . . . the cagers actually start 
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>moving away from me!!! ;-)
>



     I've never heard an official DoD speed *limit* discussed. As I recall,
the thread that I started about Dastardly Dave Fenstemaker and Skyline
Blvd established the official DoD *nominal speed*.


  If there is a *limit*, I'd like to know.


-- 
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ 		| Views expressed here are	*
 * (213) 337-5136 		| mine and do not necessarily	*
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 * "Dammit Bones, spare me the lecture and give me the shot!"   *
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bilbo@bisco.kodak.com (Charles Tryon)
Subject: Re: BICYCLE CRASH
Organization: Eastman Kodak Company; Rochester, NY
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 15:13:08 GMT

In article <1967.29DD3A69@kennel.FIDONET.ORG> john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) writes:
>Friday April 03 1992, Charles Tryon writes to All:
>
> >> years of riding fast motorcycles, I've seen more bicyclists run red
> >> lights than all the cars and motorcycles I've seen do it together. ....
>
> CT>   People tend to see only what they are looking for.
>
>What's your point? I don't hit bicyclists, cars, other motorcycles,
>fence posts, pedestrians, kids running into the street. I guess I am
>looking for everything. Are you the only observant person on the planet?

  The point is that people tend to ignore observations which contradict
  their personal bias, and remember things which support them.  For
  example, you have "seen more bicyclists run red lights than all the cars
  and motorcycles I've seen do it together."  Have you ever seen a car
  turn right on a red light?  Chances are, the law in your state says that
  a vehicle may turn right on a red light AFTER A COMPLETE STOP, yielding
  right of way to all other vehicles.  How many cars have you seen come to
  a FULL STOP before turning when it was clear that there was no traffic
  to wait for?  Most cars around here take the corner at around 10mph.
  I've seen a lot of them doing it without even slowing down (almost been
  hit by a few of them).

  If you count this "running a red light," then I see more cars running
  red lights in a single day than I see bicyclists of any kind in a week.

  As an operator of a motor vehicle, you tend to ignore people when they
  violate the same traffic regulations which you have grown accustomed to
  violating.  You are looking to pin the blame on bicyclists, or paint
  them as flagrant law breakers, so that's what you see.

>John Hamilton                  uucp: uts.amdahl.com!kennel!john
>DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org


--
Chuck Tryon
    bilbo@bisco.kodak.com                                 B. Baggins
    << Kodak and I don't always share opinions. >>        At Your Service
 ____________________________________________________________________
   REAL Bicyclists don't take abuse from motorists, they drop them.
                                          -- Dan Mocsny
From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:01:47 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Lester Wheels/tubeless tires
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

In rec.motorcycles, dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (The Nashville Flash) writes:

> On the subject of spare tubes... you can get by with just one spare.  Get
> one for the rear tire.  Get one with your rear tire size at the high end
> of it's range if you can.  (ie: 3.25-4.25 18 rather than 4.00-4.75)  First
> off, front tires rarely pick up things that make them go flat.  Rear flats
> are probably 100 times more common.  Second thing, you can use an 18" tube
> in a 19" tire IN AN EMERGENGY.  But you can't do it the other way around.

I would suggest that just the opposite is true.  A larger tube can be used
in a smaller tire, but not vice versa.  This is the rule I've read and used
for dirt bike riding.  I couldn't imagine fitting a 18" tube in a 21" tire,
although I can imagine the opposite (in emergencies only).  I know this is
true.  I read it in a magazine :-\

-Jeff Deeney-         DoD#0498    NCTR    '88 XR600(Shamu)
jld@hpfcla.fc.hp.com  AMA#540813  COHVCO  '81 CB750F(Still adjusting valves)
We don't stop riding because we careen through a llama ranch and burst into
flames, we stop riding because the damn engine's torn apart and sitting on
the bench in the garage.
From: daveman@sequent.com (Dave Mansfield)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Motorcycles in Calif. Carpool lanes
Summary: Motorcycles OK in carpool lanes
Keywords: motorcycles carpool
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:21:04 GMT
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

Well, I thought there was a newgroup for motorcycle folk.  I just posted a
similar article in 'ca.driving' since this really regarding bikes in Calif.

Anyway, about 8 months ago, I was riding in a carpool lane in I-10 in L.A.
This particular lane has a 3 person occupancy requirement and explicitly
states 'Busses OK'.  Nothing about motorcycles.

I start wizzing along and Mr. CHP flags me down (there's already 4 other
cars stopped.  He says, "HEY! What are you doing in the carpool lane?
You're not a carpool!"  I say, "I thought motorcycles were ok.  They're ok
on the 55! [Another freeway in the Southern Calif area]"  He says, "Well
they're not.  Get out and if I see you in here again, I'll write you!"

Of course, I get out thinking thank you Mr. Congenial.  Anyway, I've been
commuting to San Diego now, and the I15 has a really nice carpool lane
(actually a separate road) down the middle for about 8 miles. (Ah, to not
have to wait for spring for a ride.  I lived in Utah for a bit so I really
do understand.)  Just the other day, I noticed that the "Motorcycles OK"
portion of the carpool sign was painted over!!! And then I noticed one of
the ramps I use had the same part painted over!

Well, I got kind of worried that I was losing my carpool rights.  So I
stopped by a CHP office to check the vehicle code.  Section 21655.5 states
(in italics which means FOR CLARIFICATION), "Motorcycles can make use of
high occupancy lanes unless explicitly prohibited by traffic control
devices."

Needless to say, this quote now rides in my wallet.  Hey, remember, 
78kw (105HP) on 195kg (430lbs) goes real fast real soon...And I *never*
speed ;-) [winking smiley].

----
Dave Mansfield              Ninja750R F4 w/minor mods.
daveman@sequent.com
..!uucp!sequent!daveman
From: Stafford@vax2.winona.msus.edu (J Stafford)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: RE: WHAT TO CALL A HARLEY
Date: 11 Apr 92 17:47:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: msus1.1992Apr11.114753.356
Organization: msus

In article <3124.89.uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us>, dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) writes:
> 
> -> This of course explains the collapse of the American motorcycle
> -> industry. The domestic motorcycle mines were depleted, leaving only a
> -> single low-volume mine somewhere in the wilds of Wisconsin.
> 
> Rokon... is Rokon still around?  

	Rotax is alive and well.  Are they American?

What to call a Harley?

	My favorite remains SLUT!  (Cannot find the post to give credit to the poster who
	up with this.  Slow Underpowerd Tractor?)  Yes, SLUT, that's the ticket.
	Recognition!
---------------------------
j stafford '56 Chopped SLUT
From: truher@s1.gov (Joel Truher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Jump start with car? DONT DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:25:09 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Labs, Livermore CA

In article <1992Apr14.154834.26287@ichips.intel.com> mikel@ichips.intel.com writes:
>If the car is running, the car alternator
>really will send enough juice through to fry your bike's brain box, so
>leave the car off!


Mike

You should know, working for Intel (making brains for Ford), that
if the car's alternator fried your GSXR's brain that it would also
fry your CAR's brain.

All charging systems use voltage regulators.  Those silicon things.

Joel
From: danb@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com (Dan Bergmen)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:32:26 GMT
Subject: Re: Forks on CB750F, advice needed
Organization: HP Pacific Technology Park - Sunnyvale, Ca.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

I have replaced fork seals on my machines a few times. It is more time
consuming and cumbersome than you might think but not beyond the skills
of someone who has experience such as yours. In my experience, The most
difficult part was making a tubular tool to press in the new seal. This 
needs to be done with great care to avoid damage to the seal or fork tube.
I would try to use something plastic like PVC pipe or something if I were
you. Study the shop manual carefully for the proper techniques, use your
ingenuity and you will be fine.
				 ...Dan
From: vmiglus@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CX500..what the hell
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:53:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: eagle.1992Apr8.125306.1
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <1992Apr07.141724.4361@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, crpresto@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Charlie Preston) writes:
> The wheels on my CX are nearly the same as on a GL1100.  One difference: the
> wing has a rear disk and the CX has a rear drum.  The CX is heavy for a 500cc
> bike but that helps on the highway--the front wheel doesn't bounce like my
> lady's 550 Nighthawk.  (There aren't very many smooth roads in IL.)  The CX
> has a very high ground clearance which leads to a high seat but I've gotten
> accustomed to that.  Once on the road it is as comfortable as my '83 FXSB.
>                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Chas

Aw my gawd!!

I've been riding now for more than a decade.
I've only owned one none-japanese bike and that was austrian.
I don't want a Harley.

BUT!!

Comparing a Honda CX to a HARLEY IS SACRILEGIOUS!!!!!!!!!

GET A GRIP MAN!!!


vacek
aka vmiglus@eagle.wesleyan.edu
From: robd@shotgun.wv.tek.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: piss off, senner (was: take a pill ed green)
Keywords: Flameage, torch, combustion, damaged equipment
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:10:21 GMT
Reply-To: robd@orca.wv.tek.com
Organization: Network Displays Reliability Engineering


In article <rq540INNklq@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>, egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed
Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
> Subject: piss off, senner (was: take a pill ed green)
> Oh, give me a big, hairy, fucking break!  A guy admits to power
> wheelies and slams somebody for doing a stoppie in the SAME article,

Damnit Ed, I wish you'd put *somekind* of warning in your headers....I woulda
changed over to my monochrome monitor...BEFORE you warped the shadow mask on
my nice color unit...thought it was gonna spontaniously combust! 

Spring is HERE! Throw out the first fireball! Here's the windup....and..CRACK!
That baby is going...going...GONE! Its outa here! Well....it hadda be done...

> 
> I think Diana's cute, too.
> ---
> Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,


Diana and her 883 are not only cute...they are a perfectly beautiful couple...


          +====================================================+
          | Robert Dixon, Reliability Engineering Proj. Leader |
          | Tektronix, Inc., Network Displays Division (NWD)   |
          |         email - robd@shotgun.WV.TEK.COM            |
	  |        "I ride, therefore I am"  DoD#176           |
          +====================================================+
From: chrisp@tatanka.wr.tek.com (Chris Perez)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What do we call Harleys?
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:31:38 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc

In article <1992Apr8.183717.4965@ncar.ucar.edu> jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu (John Sloan) writes:
>Sure, other bikes are better at other things. That's why you gotta own
>more then one bike (and maybe even more than one Harley). But if you've
>been thinkin' about gettin' (back) into motorcycling been thinkin'
>about gettin' a Hog, but you're worried about whether "it's too much
>bike" for you, John-Boy ses Just Do It.

So, John, when did you sell yer K-bike?  8-)


Pistachio  | Christopher Perez - owner of | 1981 Ducati 500SL Pantah
Eaters	   |Groucho's Desmodrome & Club H.| 1975 Ducati 860GT
Against	   |------------------------------| 1978 Ducati 860GTS (1000cc)
Chief	   |"Uh oh.  Ducati Monster stole | 1979 Yamaha RD400F Daytona Special
Elders	   | my Ducati.  I wanna another!"| Wanted: the '78 900SS in Vancouver
From: bnh5940@rigel.tamu.edu (Blaine Hufnagle)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: "Shaft Effect?"
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:17:56 GMT
Reply-To: bnh5940@rigel.tamu.edu
Organization: Texas A&M University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4


I have heard several times that shaft drive does something to handling, but 
never expressly *what* it does to handling.  Exactly what is "shaft 
effect" and how can I feel for it?  I don't think my riding is of a sporty 
enough nature to be affected by it yet, but It might be.


-blaine     a.k.a. The Midnight Shadow    | 1979 Chevy Urban Assault Vehicle
Texas Aggie Bus Driver and proud of it!!! | 1982 Thomas Transit-Liner bus
Another Bodybuilder from HELL!!           | 1982 Yamaha Vision
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mwallace@isis.cs.du.edu (Mark Wallace)
Subject: FJ owner wanna be...NO MORE.or.The FJ from hell
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 14:46:03 GMT

Well if you've been following rec.moto. lately you've probably read
several of my posts about attempts to get an FJ.  Well last 
saturday I finally got one.  I started looking 5 months ago
but none were for sale over the winter.  Then about 6 weeks
ago several started to appear in the local (Denver/Colo. Springs) 
papers.  I soon found out that the bikes were very popular
and they were going for about the asking price (I made offers
on 2 I didn't get).  The one I ended up getting wasn't
advertised in the paper, a dealer gave me the guys name.
I ended up paying $5200 (100.00 less than the asking price)
for an '89 FJ 1200 with 4000 miles, this is about 700-800
high but heres what came with it:
     Supertrap exhaust
     Technomagnesio wheels
     works performane fork springs
     Brembo rotors
     Dynojet kit
     Ignition advancer
     
The guy races bikes and I think got most of this stuff for
nearly nothing, most of it is still in the boxes.

BTW, there was recently a thread about mounting a 17 inch
wheel on the rear of an FJ.  This Technomagnesio is a 17 incher
and I think the stock rotor will work, but not the sprocket.
I was told the wheels retail for 700.00 apiece.  I still have
to mount the tires,the rear is a 17x5.5.  Any suggestions?

Mark Wallace, Castle Rock, CO
From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: What do we call Harleys?
Date: 11 Apr 92 06:22:08 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Friday April 10 1992, William E. Johns;S23015 writes to All:

 >> space@bwdlh522.bnr.ca (Scott Pace) writes: Japanese bikes are called
 >> "rice burners", Italian bikes are called "pasta burners", so what do we
 >> call American bikes (Harleys)? Ok, here's a
 >> couple: milk-burner beer-burner

 WEJ> simple, you call Harley's "motorsickles"

Naw. Japanese bikes most commonly called Rice Rockets. Mine is proud to
be called that. It likes to be called that.

Harley Davidsons have traditionally been called Lead Sleds (derogatory)
or, of course, hogs (not sure if complimentary or derogatory, depends, I
suppose). With the advent of the Evolution motor, I think Lead Sled is
no longer apropo. Hog is cool, "motorsickle" is kind of nondescript.
I don't care what you call them, scoots, hogs, rides, bikes, sleds, iron,
whatever. They still cool!

John

--- GoldED 2.32.B0212+
--  
John Hamilton                  uucp: uts.amdahl.com!kennel!john
DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
From: sai@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM (S.Fielding-Isaacs [WWFO Eng Wordsmith])
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Photos
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:45:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: formula1.corp.sun.com

In article <2a8Z02ng10NJ01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> bjt20@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Bob J Taylor) writes:
>
>Blaine asked for racing pictures and I happen to have some good ones of
>the last two American GPs but they are slides.  Does anyone have a color
>slide scanner they can use for the archives?

 I, too, have some good to "great" ones I've taken over the last
 couple of GPs. Some are slides, most are prints.. Doohan, Rainey,
 Chili, Lawson, Schwantzenegger.. I've got a couple of good ones 
 of each of them.. Not to mention some great sidecar shots..

 Anybody here in Silly Valley got a scanner I can use?

 Stef


--
Stefan Fielding-Isaacs         me: (415) 599-4876  me at them: (415) 688-9400  
dba Live-Wire Technologies (a consulting technical writing firm) 
AMA/CCS #5, Lightweight Supersport, Superbike, Grand Prix Champion
mail:  race-request@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM to join motorcycle roadracing list
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: c31002wb@jezebel.wustl.edu (WILLIAM)
Subject: Advice sought
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 03:11:35 GMT


Hi everyone,

	Just a quick question.  I recently saw an ad on the university here
advertising a 1986 Honda 650 (that's all the info in the ad) for $575.
The bike is in fairly good condition as far as I can tell - but I'm no expert
and all I had to judge from was the look and sound of the bike, both of which
were good.  My question, is this a good deal?

Thanks in advance,
-william

                           || I was gratified to answer so promptly, and I   || 
William E. Burris          ||   	 did.  I said I didn't know.         || 
c31002wb@jezebel.wustl.edu ||                           -Mark Twain          ||
                           ||  Looks like blind screaming Hedonism won out   || 
From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 06:37:42 GMT
Subject: Re: DoD marital aid announcement
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

In rec.motorcycles, rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben) writes:

> ...sorry Jeffy-poo - just couldn't resist 8-) 8-).
           ^^^^^^^^^
Shit.  First my confession is called  "mambie-pambie" by Mark Joseph.  Then
this from Rich.  IS THIS ALL THE BETTER YOU CAN DO?!?!?!? ARE WE NOT DoD?

I'd expected a couple thousand degrees Celcius.  The stuff I've gotten from
you folks over the llama incident is scarcely enough to defog my faceshield
on a warm day in July.  Shirley you can do better than this?  

At least one fellow from the Land Down Under sent me email noting that I
was an "arsshole".  Gotta love that accent :-)  Unfortunately, his message
was watered down with copious smilies.  

Ride fast.  Shred Llamas.  42 days til Moab '92. 

-Jeff Deeney-           DoD#0498    NCTR    '88 XR600(Shamu)
jld@hpfcla.fc.hp.com    AMA#540813  COHVCO  '81 CB750F(Reconstructionating)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: LICENSES
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 16 Apr 92 10:35:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059

-> Ive got a UK licence, and will be in the US for 4 months in the
-> summers. Ill be driving about everywhere, so can probably do it
-> wherever its easiest...

 As long as you're not a permanent resident and your UK license doesn't
expire, it will be valid in all 50 states plus the District of Columbia.

 To avoid hassle if you're stopped it would help to carry a copy of your
passport so the cop knows you're not just jerking him around with a
funny license.
From: jn1h+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Robert Nadzam)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Flame war invitations: Sport touring choice? FJ, Of Course!
Date: 13 Apr 92 05:37:48 GMT
	<1992Apr12.180759.2905@arizona.edu>
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>>>that's not an oxymoron :-) on the subject. In other words, about 200K of
>>>collected net postings on the FJ1100 & 12000.
>>                                        ^^^^^^
>>
>>Sign me up that sounds like a manly sized bike, How many cylinders?
>>
>>NADZ
>>DoD#528
 
>One.  One very BIG cylinder.
> 
>  +-----------------+------------------------------------+
>  | Brian Soderblom |  soderblom@evax2.engr.arizona.edu  |
>  | (602) 323-6705  | 2350 E Water A-213 Tucson AZ 85719 |
>  +------------------------------------------------------+

and let me guess it's a two stroke right????

NADZ
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla)
Subject: Re: Laser "radar"
Organization: Rescorla for himself.
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 20:53:11 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.194836.14611@dg-rtp.dg.com> hicks@dg-rtp.dg.com writes:
>Speaking of infrared lasers, does anyone know if there's such a thing
>as an ultraviolet laser yet??     What.....  This isn't sci.lasers??
>
>Never mind.
The answer is: yes.

A nitrogen laser, for instance, lases at 337.1 nm, which is in the
uv range.

-Ekr


-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eric Rescorla, DoD#431, Honda CM400 rider          rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu
Yale University Department of Chemistry            We hack anything.
              Golden Anniversary: It's bad beer, but it's beer.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: UNFAIR TICKETS!
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:55:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059

-> a ticket.  NO FAIR!  I OBJECT!  WHATS HAPPENING TO OUR RIGHTS,
-> ANYWAYS!

 Rights?  You ain't got no steenkeeng RIGHTS in a US courtroom.  A US
judge in his court is the closest thing to God on Earth you're going to
come across while you're still alive, and they can do just about
anything they want, regardless of the Constitution, Bill of Rights, or
local statute.

 Not many non-legalists realize the absolute power a judge commands,
even some two-bit traffic judge in a town with a population of 50.
From: davewi@soccer.wv.tek.com (David H. Wise)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What *ARE* cruisers good for?
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:08:58 GMT
Reply-To: davewi@soccer.wv.tek.com
Distribution: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville,  OR.

Peter A. Simon writes about concrete-like short-travel rear suspensions.

Karen Black replies:
>I ran across this [short, progressive-rate shocks] in the May issue of Rider:
>
>	retail for $209.95 a pair and will lower most bikes
>	approximately 1 1/2 inches.  They fit any model with round
>	stud mounting, and two different spring rates are available

What about monoshock bikes like my wife's Virago 500?  Its rear shock has the
usual mounting eye at one end, and looks like a bolt at the other.

I would venture that with a light rider, this bike is a worse butt-beater
that Peter's Savage.  And the front forks never compress at all, except during
braking.  I've watched them on the road.  On every bump, they just flex.
Comes of too much rake, I guess.  Cool-looking bike, but that bugs me.

I see that my last post has a double .sig .  It ought to be right this time.
I didn't know that my inews always appends it; Rnmail asks.
--
David Wise (DoD#427, davewi@orca.wv.tek.com, Packy -- 1980 CX500C)
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA