From: hasan@cs.washington.edu (Shams Hasan)
Subject: Re: Pakistan a nation waiting to be borned...
Summary: Well, that is what I saw at Aitchison College, Lahore,... 
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 02:26:48 GMT

In article <1hdfucINN31v@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> khan@ces.cwru.edu (Mansoor Khan) writes:
>
>
>>Dear netters,
>
>>I have been speaking to an Indian friend who recently arrived from India.
>>From him I learnt the steady rise of software programmers in India, who are
>>making significant inroads in bringing high quality software engineering
>>to the Indian infra-structure. Frankly I am envious. Not just because of
>
>>I know that in Pakistan literacy is not a priority for the majority of the
>>landed gentry, LVQs, etc, as it works against their interests of keeping their
>                ^^^^
>	Hey puttar, atleast you should have given me credit for forming
>	this abbreviation for Shiyateen of Pakistan. 
>
>>slaves/servants in status quo. This I learnt in Aitchision College, Lahore,
>>where I was a A-Level student in 1981.
>
>>However, literacy is a revolution that no power can keep under a lid.
>	What are you talking about. Power people have successfully done that
>	in Pakistan. 
>	When Navab kalabagh was Gov. of West  Pakistan, he closed an
>	assembly session in Lahore of W.Pakistan assembly with the following
>	remark. The assembly was discussing mandatory education requirements
>	in Pakistan.
>	"" ho jee, inn mundo'n ko perhanay daa koe faidaa nahi'n. 
>	   kheraab ho jaatay hae'n.""
>	It is hard to believe that people like him can become Governors
>	in Pakistan. But they do. Well, there are people like Ayub Khan
>	to appoint people like Kalabagh to governor ships. Bhutto's
>	time. Another story. I do not remember if it was Jatoi's or 
>	Bhutto's cousin Mumtaz's Chiefministership. Both are equally Ghundaas.
>	Jatoi seems little more sophisticated, though. One of them
>	had appointed an education minister in Sindh who was himself
>	high school drop out. He did not even matriculate. This is in
>	1970's. He was scheduled to be the guest of honour at Karachi
>	University's annual convocation. Well, students refused to
>	receive their degrees from such an illiterate. 
>	So meri jan, Shams-ul-Hasan, Pakistan is in catch 22. 
>	People supporting leaders like Navaz, BB, Zardari and Jatoi.
>	These people make sure that Pakistanis remain Jahil.
>	and the cycle continues. PAKISTAN NEEDS A BLOODY REVOLUTION.
>	WHERE EVERY ONE IN THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY AND LOCAL ASSEMBLIES
>	SHOULD BE HANGED. CROOK PRESIDENT ISHAQ SHOULD BE KILLED.
>	ARMY GENERALS SHOULD BE KILLED TOO. I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF 
>	IRAN LIKE REVOLUTION. A SMALL SCALE CLEANING. A BLOODY ONE THOUGH.
>	I think mass hanging of 1000 people in Pakistan will make
>	sure that we get rid of major fuckers of Pakistan.
>
>
>>Thus, my question to you is, how can the fortunate ones, like the wealthy
>>foreign students, the successful student/professionals who have benifited
>>by going overseas to pursue money/education/honest way of life, make even
>>a small difference to a small school in Pakistan ? 
>	It is too late for shareef things like this. Bedmashes like
>Navaz Shareef and Benazir should be killed. All their buddies should
>be eliminated too. Or, people like Zardari will keep screwing Pakistan.
>
>>Any ideas.... ?
>
>Did I give you enough or not?
>
>
>Mansoor Khan
>

My dear Mansoor Dude,

To say the least, you have given me nothing new in concept, except what you
sent in substance. I am an Aitchisonian along with two younger brothers, who
coming from a professional family witnessed first hand the mentality you have
mentioned in your article.

You say that ideas, and concepts are shareef things ? I think you mistook me
by the language I used, in assuming I want a philosophical discussion with
nothing better to do.....

Pakistan is a nation waiting to be born. Bloody revolution, or peaceful,
that remains to be seen. However, ideas and imagination bring such instances
in history. One leads to another, and that leads to another still, in its
ever moving chain.

The LVQs, as you fondly call power brokers in Pakistan, cannot stop education,
ideas and imagination. Change could not be stopped by any king, emperor or
Mogul. These LVQs are small hoodlums compared to their predecessors.

So, now then, do you have any ideas ? Or are you going to tell us another
story about LVQs and their Jaahiliat and Badmaashi, which, unless you are
deaf, blind and semi-comatose most of the time, every Pakistani and now,
most of the world knows.


Best Regards,
Shams Hasan.


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