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From: audley@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Christopher D Audley)
Subject: Formating disks with multiple partitions
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 21:45:17 GMT

I've had an external disk on my machine for sometime ( HITACHI DK516C ).  I've
only used it for user and project directories, so the default one partition
has been fine for me.  Before I install 3.0 on my internal, I want to dual
partition my external and install 2.1 on a 300 MB partition and use the other
partition for the same thing the current one partition is used for.

I have a few questions about doing this.

First, In the disktab file there are no entries for hard disks and a little
comment explaining that /usr/etc/disk and /usr/etc/builddisk can automatically
figure out a disks geometry, so no disktab entry is required for one or two
partitions.  The builddisk man page seems to be missing from my system ( was it
ever there? The newclient man page references it ), so I don't know how to do
this.  How do you do this, and can you specify the sizes of the partitions?
Just by poking around it looks like this might work:

	/usr/etc/builddisk -p 330 -s /etc/BLD.sd330 /dev/rsd1a

The "-p 330" assumes 1024K blocks, is this right.  I remember a lot of
discussion about 512K and 1024K block sizes.

Second, If I end up having to write a disktab entry, were can I find a good
book on how to do this kind of thing?

BTW, will the following setup work?
	Three logical volumes:
		/dev/sd0a	3.0 root partition
		/dev/sd1a	2.1 root partition
		/dev/sd1b	User and project directories
	Will /dev/sd1b be mountable if I boot from either 3.0 or 2.1?
	My main concern is that 3.0 might try to "update" /dev/sd1b making
	it unusable by the 2.1 system.

Chris

-- 
Christopher D. Audley
Elec & Comp Engineering
The Johns Hopkins University
Internet: audley@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
From: alevine@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: uupoll by internet?
Date: 30 Sep 1992 02:03:05 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-slip44.ucsd.edu

Hello, network enthusiasts!  This may SOUND like a silly question, but  
there's actually a very good reason for it:
Is there any way I can uupoll the uucp server that receives my mail using  
the internet?  I know the server has a valid address, and using tellnet  
I've successfully logged in manually onto my uucp account there (though  
with the uucico shell, that doesn't do me much good).  I am interested in  
doing this because I have access to SLIP service, but since under the  
current arrangement my IP address changes every time I bring up the SLIP  
connection, I can't reliably receive mail by internet.  Since the SLIP  
connection is sometimes up for a couple hours at a time, my modem isn't  
free for UUCP use, and my mail backs up significantly.  If anyone can pass  
on an appropriate L.sys entry or other pointers, I'll be eternally  
grateful.  

Alex Levine		alevine@ucsd.edu
			NeXTMail accepted (finally!).
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From: zeke@znext (james dehnert)
Subject: Re: in and out serial line
Organization: pnet
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 15:30:39 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.080028.28310@proponent.com> Monty Solomon  
<monty%roscom@think.com> writes:
- You should consider getting a newer version of Kermit.
- The latest one is C-Kermit 5A(183) BETA-5, 22 Aug 92, NeXT
- 
- To fix your problem, try the following as root
- 
- chown uucp.daemon /usr/local/bin/kermit
- chmod 4711 /usr/local/bin/kermit
- 
- 
- -- 
- # Monty Solomon / PO Box 2486 / Framingham, MA  01701-0405
- # monty%roscom@think.com

  Where can one get the source for C-Kermit 5A(183)?  I have spent some time 
looking with no luck.  Only the binary is available at the archives

 
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From: stark@superc.che.udel.edu (Scott M. Stark)
Subject: Re: NS3.0 FloppyDisk Eject Problem
Reply-To: stark@superc.che.udel.edu
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 04:45:36 GMT


As yet another data point on the cause of floppy disk eject
problems, I had the same problem until I quit autolaunching
the QuickStart dock extender.  It appears that common denominator
in the disk problem are autolaunched dock extender's.

Scott
--
Scott Stark
University of Delaware
Department of Chemical Engineering
123 Colburn Lab
Newark, DE 19716-3119
(302) 831-6713
stark@superc.che.udel.edu (NeXT mail)
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From: cary@aurora.Colorado.EDU (John R. Cary)
Subject: NS3 fails to find shared Mac folders
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 03:57:30 GMT


So I read the docs that came with my new NeXT.  They told me to start
up Appletalk through the "Preferences" icon.  This I did.  Upon restarting,
I got:

"No response from network configuration server
 Type control-c to continue"

I could not get appletalk to work.  What I wanted to do was to mount
files that a Mac on the ethernet had "shared" via ethertalk.  I figured this
would work
since the NeXT can be a client to an AppleShare server, and my Mac's,
by sharing their files, had become such servers.  I also
wanted to print to an Apple LaserWriter put on the ethernet via
Dayna's EtherPrint Plus.

Eventually I came across a program called "Simple Network Start".  I started
this up and finally got the network to go so that I can print to the
aforementioned localtalk printer.  Still I am unable to see the other Mac's,
which have sharing turned on.  Still I get the error message noted above upon
startup.

1.  Is it possible to get rid of this message, yet use ethertalk, but not the
other network features?

2.  Is it possible to see the files on the Mac's which have sharing turned on?

Thanks.....John Cary  (a NeXT NoVICE).

-- 
--------------------------
John R. Cary                                  cary@boulder.colorado.edu
Department of Astrophysical, Planetary and Atmospheric Sciences
University of Colorado, Boulder, CO 80309-0391
ph. (303) 492-1489                                   fax (303) 492-0642
From: dml@esl.com (Denis Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 3,0 installation woes
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:40:04 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.050130.23485@athena.mit.edu>  
shanega@athena.mit.edu (Shane G. Artis) writes:
> The second (and simpler) question I have is: Has anyone connected a
> Sun brand CD-ROM drive to their NeXT and successfully used it to
> install 3.0?  Are the drives compatible and the CD formats compatible?

Yes. The Sun 595-1929-04 is nearly identical to the NeXT drive. The  
audio on the NeXT drive is better, the color matches better, and the  
enclosure shape is cuter, but other than that they seem interchangable.

To be totally honest, I only used the Sun drive to install 3.0 PR-1; my  
NeXT drive arrived right after that and I had no reason to hook the NeXT  
drive to a Sun.

--Denis Lynch
ESL Inc.
From: borchers@poogh.llnl.gov (Robert R. Borchers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: AppleTalk and 3.0. It does not work.
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:16:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.170327.20939@news2.cis.umn.edu>  
jalegre@htlv.med.umn.edu (John Alegre) writes:
> Has anyone got AppleTalk connections to work under 3.0?
> 
> We know the physical conncetion is ok, because we can
> connect just fine with NCSA Telnet.  We installed the
> AppleTalk pkg., enabled AppleTalk Networking in the
> Preferences panal, and rebooted.
> 
> (text deleted)
> 
> Anybody got it working?
> 
--
I got it working first time, but I have not had time to run down all the  
prooerties. I do, for example, see the hundreds of zones on our network  
and can mount the file structure on my mac, and another one I have access  
to. One interesting thing is that i get the entire file structure on my  
hard disk, hot just the folder that is published under system 7.0.1 I also  
had no problem installing my printer, after i found the correct driver,  
since there are three. Bob

Robert R. Borchers
L-414
Livermore, Ca 94551
borchers@llnl.gov
NeXTmail Welcome
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From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: AppleTalk and 3.0. It does not work.
Reply-To: eps@cs.sfsu.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 11:56:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.170327.20939@news2.cis.umn.edu>
	jalegre@htlv.med.umn.edu (John Alegre) writes:
>Has anyone got AppleTalk connections to work under 3.0?

>Nothing shows up for our Mac running 7.0.
>
>Is this supposed to work with the built in AppleShare of
>7.0 or do you need the full blown installed AppleShare?

Test machine: NeXTstation (25MHz), 32MB RAM, nbuf=128

NetInfo options:
	AppleTalk
		Enabled YES
		AppleTalkPhase 1
		NetID [as assigned by administrator]
		NodeID 1
		ZoneName [as assigned by administrator]
	AppleTalk/AppleShare
		Enabled YES
		ResourceForks SHOWN
		CharacterEncoding MAC-ROMAN

Connections were made to both a dedicated AppleShare 2.0 server
and a Mac II running System 7.0 + TuneUp 1.1.1 + AppleTalk and
EtherTalk upgrades/fixes from Network Software Installer 1.2.2
(note that Apple released a newer version a few days ago).  The
AppleShare server is on LocalTalk through a Shiva FastPath.
The 7.0 system was switchable between LocalTalk and EtherTalk
(Phase 1 and Phase 2, although I didn't try Phase 2).

+ All AppleTalk Zones were visible.
+ The NeXT took a noticeable amount of time to find all the nodes
  in a Zone.
+ New nodes would be discovered, but removed nodes would not be
  purged.
+ Attempts to log in as a Guest user usually failed with "Invalid
  User Name or Password.  Please try again."  This was
  repeatable.  Curiously enough, after switching to "Registered
  User" and clicking OK (which would, of course, fail), switching
  back to "Guest" would work!  (This was true for both AppleShare
  2.0 and System 7.0.)
+ It is not possible to provide authentication without the
  NeXTSTEP Window Server running (for example, when logged onto
  the true console).
+ Machines whose names contained certain "high bit" characters
  would be accessible through the browser, but not in either
  standard shell.
+ Shutting down file sharing resulted in NO notification to the
  NeXT user!  (Macs pop up an alert.)
+ There is no way to specify which volumes to mount; all
  available are mounted, which may partially explain the lengthy
  setup delay.  Also, it seems to be necessary to manually
  perform Update Viewers to make files appear (or browse
  elsewhere and come back).
+ There is no clear indication when a volume was not mounted due
  to lack of server permission.
+ The "Disconnect" option in AppleTalk Preferences sometimes
  refused to work, even when no obvious file reference existed.
+ Logging out did not unmount AppleShare servers.  Logging in
  again would wedge the automounter resulting in NFS getattr
  failures on terminals or a hopelessly hung Workspace when
  attempting to browse AppleShare, making it impossible to log
  out.  (Reboot seems to be the best course of action here.)
+ The automounter didn't always dismount properly at shutdown,
  with the message "CAUTION: some processes wouldn't die"
  appearing.

"Really looking forward to NeXTSTEP 3.1"

					-=EPS=-
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From: jonathan@nova.decio.nd.edu (Jonathan Bradshaw)
Subject: Anyone have NN for the NeXT?
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:34:18 GMT

Has anyone got NN (no news) newsreader compiled for the NeXT? I have been
unable to get it to compile successfully.

--
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  Packet: n9oxe@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na | Prodigy: XMSN02B | (Os/2)(DOS)(Linux)
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From: tim@rri.UUCP (Tim Buck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: so how do you format a floppy for the MAC?
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:59:45 GMT
Organization: Recognition Research Inc., Blacksburg, VA

In article <7619@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> gbol@rglnext.geol.vt.edu writes:
>It seems that BuildDOS is gone from NS3.0.  So how does one explicitly  
>build a DOS or MAC floppy?

Click 'Initialize' from the Workspace 'Disk' menu.  The panel that appears
has a pop-up list from which you choose NeXT, DOS, or Macintosh format.

Timothy Buck   --   rri!tim@vtserf.cc.vt.edu OR timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu
 Recognition Research, Inc. (703) 231-6500	++ NeXTmail accepted ++
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 Hate Blacksburg's weather? Wait an hour.  Hate the season? Wait a day.  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dean@thrall.com (Dean Johnson)
Subject: Return address in Sendmail
Reply-To: dean@thrall.com
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 17:30:41 GMT


I know everybody is probably sick of sendmail questions, but this one I just  
can't seem to get right.

With 2.1 I was finally able to get my return address to read  
dean@thrall.wa.com; not quite what I wanted ,but better than nothing (really  
should be dean@thrall.com. Anyway after upgrading the address shows up as  
thrall!dean@nwnexus.wa.com (a uucp connection). So the question is how do I  
force sendmail to use the dean@thrall.com?

Any help is appreciated.

Dean

--
      NeXTmail Please            |         More computer stuff!           
                                 |
     Thrall Consulting           |               - My wife
                                 |                   
				     
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From: silbar@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Subject: Re: why the "incomplete termcap" warning? -- RESOLVED
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: LAMPF Data Analysis Center, Los Alamos, New Mexico
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 04:06:00 GMT

I had earlier written about a warning received when I logged in by
dialing in through a modem.  Art Isbell responded with a "bashful
solution", which I will not report here (since I don't know anything
about bash).  What has cured the problem for me was the response from
Pierce Cantrell (cantrell@ee.tamu.edu), and I'll take the liberty of
posting his response.  (Several others have asked for the solution).

-----------------------
From cantrell@ee.tamu.edu Sat Oct  3 12:46:13 1992

Try something like that below in your .login file. This same problem  
existed in 2.x. I am now running 3.0 with this .login as well without  
problem.

The termcap entries for terminal types of network and dialup are incomplete.
--
#
# This file gets executed once at login or window startup.
#
switch($TERM)
case network:
case dialup:
case unknown:
	unsetenv TERMCAP
	set noglob
	@ status=1
	while ($status)
		eval `tset -Q -s -m :\?vt100`
	end
	unset noglob
	set term=$TERM
	clear
	breaksw
default:
	set noglob; eval `tset -Q -s`; unset noglob
	set term=$TERM
	stty -tabs
	breaksw
endsw
stty decctlq intr "^C" erase "^?" kill "^U"
cd

--
Pierce E. Cantrell                   |  cantrell@ee.tamu.edu
-----------------------

   Dick Silbar
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From: cmumford@iat.holonet.net (Chris Mumford)
Subject: Only 2 Fax Modems in 3.0?
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:50:44 GMT

I just upgraded to 3.0 and there are only 2 Fax modems available.  Did I
make a mistake upgrading?  I thought there were more fax modems available
under 3.0 than 2.1.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mckelvey@suite.com
Subject: Printer Gone- 3.0 Upgrade
Reply-To: mckelvey@suite.com
Organization: Suite Software, Anaheim CA.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:35:21 GMT

My NeXT printer no longer works after upgrading from 2.1 to 3.0.  The message  
is "No printer description file available".  PrintManager won't let me add it;  
the entry for NeXt printer is dimmed.

I tracked it down to the NetInfo entry.  Under printers, all the properties  
except name are missing.  I tried niloading the 2.1 version, which made the  
printer available, but printing failed due to the lack of some file.  

Can someone send me the result of a 3.0 nidump printcap? or point me to the  
information necessary to restore the entry?

My printer stuff was completely untouched and uncustomized.  Why can't NeXT get  
that part right, at least?  I'm urging people to wait for 3.1 unless they need  
the new features.
From: borchers@poogh.llnl.gov (Robert R. Borchers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: AppleTalk and 3.0. It does not work.
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:15:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.170327.20939@news2.cis.umn.edu>  
jalegre@htlv.med.umn.edu (John Alegre) writes:
> Has anyone got AppleTalk connections to work under 3.0?
> 
> We know the physical conncetion is ok, because we can
> connect just fine with NCSA Telnet.  We installed the
> AppleTalk pkg., enabled AppleTalk Networking in the
> Preferences panal, and rebooted.
> 
> (text deleted)
> 
> Anybody got it working?
> 
--
I got it working first time, but I have not had time to run down all the  
prooerties. I do, for example, see the hundreds of zones on our network  
and can mount the file structure on my mac, and another one I have access  
to. One interesting thing is that i get the entire file structure on my  
hard disk, hot just the folder that is published under system 7.0.1 I also  
had no problem installing my printer, after i found the correct driver,  
since there are three. Bob

Robert R. Borchers
L-414
Livermore, Ca 94551
borchers@llnl.gov
NeXTmail Welcome
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From: danno@css.itd.umich.edu (Daniel T. Pritts)
Subject: Re: Fijutsu & NeXT
Organization: University of Michigan Math Dept
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:43:37 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.184251.11901@cs.tu-berlin.de>  
gonzo@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (S. F. Ruehauf) writes:
> A friend of mine just bought a Fijutsu disk.
> Its a Fijutsu M2624 FA 520MB, new.
> 
> Please, when you have a Fijutsu, help him on the way

For this disk, use the following jumper settings:
on jumper set CNH1, make sure that the following pairs of pins are  
open, and all other pairs are shorted:
 15-16
 23-24
 5-6

(15 and 16 disables SCSI synchronous mode, and 23-24 tells the drive  
to supply termination).  

To set SCSI ID, use CNH7, jumpers 1-2, 3-4, 5-6 as follows
ID   5-6   3-4   1-2
0     O     O     O
1     O     O     S
2     O     S     O
3     O     S     S
(for 4-7, repeat the previous, but short 5-6 also.)
key:  O:  pins open   S: pins shorted

To disable the internal termination, remove the gray part labeled  
RM85.

This should work for fujitsu M242x scsi disks, i know it works for  
the 2624.

as an aside fujitsu's tech support is good (at least here in the US).   
--
dan pritts                consultant/system administrator
dan.pritts@umich.edu      um itd/css unix support group 
313/998-6265
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From: louie@ni.umd.edu (Louis Mamakos)
Subject: Re: chown under 3.0
Organization: The University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:23:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.214104.25073@lsa.umich.edu> Hal.Varian@umich.edu writes:
>In article <28SEP92.15351318@enh.nist.gov> aoml@enh.nist.gov  
>writes:
>> We just add a new hp drive purchased from TECOR, when ever we  
>change the onwership of user's files, the whole disk's ownership  
>randemly changed back to one
>> of our user after few seconds.
>> 
>>         The command I use is chown -R directory-name
>> 
>>         With -R option, chown seem not only going decending  
>but also going
>> up to the whole disk.
>> 
>>         has anybody experienced that problem ?
>>         We are using 2 NeXT stations trubo clolrs on a small  
>network
>> 
>> aoml,Ying-Yuang Chen
>
>The same thing happened to me with my Fujitsu drive.  I was  
>running 3.0 beta PR2 when it happened, so I decided to wait for  
>the official release before I tried to figure out what was going  
>on.  

Yes, don't allow the workspace to auto-mount the disk.  When it does,
the file system is mounted such the each file appears to be owned by
the user that's currently logged in.  If you think about it, that's
the correct behaviour for removable media such as a floppy.

The solution is configure an entry in /etc/fstab and wherever the hell
it goes in netinfo for that file system.

louie
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From: ta-sav2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Sean A Varah)
Subject: HELP Upgrading 030 to 040 Turbo (Exception #5)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 21:23:30 GMT


I am trying to install an 040 turbo board in a formerly 030 cube.
When booting it passes the system tests, then says bsd(0,0,0)
booting from sd0a etc, but then the screen very quickly prints
some information and then clears itself leaving only the line
exception #5 pc (then some addresses).
Does anyone know what exception #5 is? I'm running system software
2.1. 
Just as the screen clears itself I can barely make out the lines
trap 2 pc (etc)
[a bunch of numbers
 for a few
 lines]
sdmach() Command failed

but it clears so quickly it's hard to read exactly whats printed.
A friend suggested booting up again from the 030 and doing 
disk -b /dev/rsd0a to rewrite the boot block but this seemed to
have no effect.

Any solutions please email to jayh@woof.music.columbia.edu
Thanks very very much 

jay hardesty


******************************************************************************
     Sean Varah, Columbia University, MA Program in Music Composition
                       ta-sav2@cunixa.columbia.edu 
******************************************************************************
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Question about Deskjet 2.03 driver and 3.0
Date: 27 Sep 92 01:54:44 GMT
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park


I'd like to hear from anyone who has upgraded (I plan to use BuildDisk, not
Upgrade.app) to NS 3.0 and uses a driver for the Deskjet 500, as I do. I'd
prefer to know precisely how, or if, the driver is installed with NS 3.0

Thanks
Robert de Lucca
Nextmail ok rdelucca@uucp.jhu.edu


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Distribution: 
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Keywords: 

In article <MS-C.717540884.662824084.mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin) writes:
>I encountered the same problem with cron in 3.0.
>
>I'll bet you're piping your backup data to rsh, eh?  Sorry, bunkie; rsh in 3.0
>does not work under cron.  I spent several hours on this problem and fairly
>conclusively proved that rsh just dies silently when it is run under cron.
>
>Don't think of trying an old rsh from 2.1 and seeing if that will work; you'll
>get a no such host name error.
>
>I reported this bug to NeXT.  Judging from past performance, we can expect to
>see this fixed sometime in 1995.  After all, 3.0 finally fixes some bugs we
>reported in 0.8 days.
From: ti6ls@tuhhco.rz.tu-harburg.de (Ludger Solbach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: bug in tar, anyone fixed it?
Keywords: tar
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:01:34 GMT

As the man pages say "The current limit on file name length is 100 characters."
Has anyone fixed this bug?


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