HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: zzaascd@hpa.ee.man.ac.uk (Colin Dente)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: 19l monitor (solution)
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:43:24 GMT
Reply-To: colin@manchester.ac.uk
Organization: Electrical Engineering Dept Manchester University

In article <9211030812.AA13019@srvr2.engin.umich.edu>, SP02038@SWTEXAS.BITNET writes:

|>     NOTE:  There is quite a bit of juice flowing through that monitor.
|>            I suggest extreme caution!  If I was to find out tommorrow
|>            that my balding was partly due to that monitor, I would not
|>            be in the least bit surprised.


I'd second that warning - about 25kV, and more than enough stored
charge around to send a lethal current through you.  Colour monitors
are NOT fun things.   You may want to get an adult to help you do
this...


|>     Disclaimer:  Trying the above is extremely dangerous.
|>                  Attempt it at your own risk.

Please try not to die - I'd hate to think of all the Apollo users in
the world be fried to death by their computers - who'd be left to
whinge at HP?

Colin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: edsverk@ed4000-2.lerc.nasa.gov (Kenneth Lee Atchinson)
Subject: Domain/OS Networking Question - long time to "cd"
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:51:47 GMT

Please forgive this if it is a FAQ, but here goes....

I have several apollos in a TCP/IP network.  There are lots
of other machines (PC's, DEC's, etc) on the same network,
but I don't think that matters.  I am currently experiencing
"excessively long" delays in cd'ing to another machine's
root directory.  For example:

	cd //machine

takes approximately one (1) minute, while

	cd //machine/etc

takes less than a second (it's there very soon after I hit return).
This problem also seems to slow up "root" login to the machine
as all users (using sh, ksh, or csh) logins quicker than "root".

Is there some network configuration that I am missing which can
be changed?  It seems to be some "timeout" problem.  What can I
do or look for here?

Additional Information: These apollos are setup with a NCS global
location broker cell (i.e. glob_obj.txt) and use Domain internet
routing (rtsvc) to avoid conflict with some other apollos in
the same Internet Domain.

Please email and post responses - I do not frequent this newsgroup
often but the information may be useful to others.

-- 
Kenneth Lee Atchinson
edsverk@lerc.nasa.gov
From: peterb@hpber010.swiss.hp.com (Peter Baumann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: HPTERMINAL , VT3k ????
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:27:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpwin052.BxM09A.GK8
Organization: the HP UK Response Centre
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Hi everyone ...

I'm searching since a long time ago a 100% compatible HPTERM emulation to the 
HP-UX HPTERM emulations .
I want work on a System which works just with HP-Terminals ...

And I'm searching a vt3k program on DOMAIN/OS Computers .. This vt3k is for
connecting to a 3000 Series Machine from HP .

Maybe someone can help me ...


Thanks

Peter Baumann APOLLO/SUPPORT  HP-Switzerland Widen 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: rdg0298@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Richard Dessenberger )
Subject: Modem problems
Summary: Modem problems
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 07:50:55 GMT
Keywords: Modem

   I posted a previous article on some problems I was having installing a 
   modem to be used as a dial-in line on our HP 9000,730.  Thanks to a helpful
   hint I now have the getty process checking for activity on the modem line.
   However, when you try to connect to the modem, it allows you to connect, but
   then it writes a bunch of garbage to the screen.  It says connect, but gives
   no speed. For example, when one usually connects to a remote host vi a modem,   the host usually replies with a CONNECT 2400   or whatever speed you are 
   communicating at.  Ours does not give a speed, and the rest of the stuff
   is a bunch of junk.  I am using a Practical Peripherals 2400 baud modem, and
   have set the modem to check and follow the DCD and DTR signals; as discussed
   in the HP manuals.  I can't figure out why it won't work.  Does anybody, have   any suggestions ?   

   Please send post or send email to

       rich@polypro.me.uiuc.edu

                                            Richard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: peterb@hpber010.swiss.hp.com (Peter Baumann)
Subject: HPTERMINAL , VT3k ????
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:51:08 GMT
Organization: the HP UK Response Centre
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: psycho@brtpa25.bnr.ca (Paul Jezioranski)
Subject: HELP: edrgy Usage 
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Ontario Canada
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 15:32:37 GMT

On a stand-alone DN3500 with SR10.3 and logged in as 'root', I type 'edrgy'.
When I try to 'add user1.%.%', the response is "account_id not found --
RGYC/Client" or something like that. I thought the add command in edrgy was
for adding new users; the BSD manual indicates this. Using 'edrgy -l' didn't
work either because the 'add' command doesn't work for the local registry.

What am I doing wrong?

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From: lampi@halcyon.com (Michael Lampi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: HP/Apollo -> Sun
Date: 5 Nov 92 06:42:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: nwnexus.1992Nov5.064257.16732
Organization: MDL Corporation, Redmond, WA (206) 861-6700=

In article <1992Nov3.154803.1334@novatel.cuc.ab.ca> hpeyerl@novatel.cuc.ab.ca (Herb Peyerl) writes:
>Stuart Craig (scraig@elipse.mentorg.com) wrote:
>: [Some good information deleted.. ]
>:
>: Exabyte tapes can be used for two way transfer -- they are the same format
>: on either system.
>
>Whenever I get exabyte tapes that were written under SunOS, I have to 
>byte swap when I read them... Other than that, I've had no problems... Of
>course, maybe there's no need to byte-swap when using the Apollo drivers
>but we use the Workstation Solutions stuff...
>
This is true--the byte ordering using Workstation Solutions software is
opposite that of the Apollo drivers. Executing the commands Herb listed
will also permit someone with W.S. s/w to read a WBAK tape written with
Apollo drivers, too.

-- 
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                      (206) 861-6700    (206) 861-6767 FAX
From: rees@pisa.citi.umich.edu (Jim Rees)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: Mentor graphics/Apollo 3000 info request
Date: 10 Nov 1992 16:47:55 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan CITI
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: Jim.Rees@umich.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: pisa.citi.umich.edu

In article <96822@netnews.upenn.edu>, hurtubis@a.chem.upenn.edu (Vincent Hurtubise) writes:

     There used to be a larger disk and a tape drive.  Is the included (80 MB)
  drive big enough or would I need to buy some additional disks ?

I've got sr10.3 installed on the 70 Mb disk in my dn330, and I've got 45 Mb
free.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson))
Subject: Re: Problems with X11 and SR10.4
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:27:41 GMT

In article <JRM.92Nov11143130@zeta.ma.adfa.oz.au> jrm@zeta.ma.adfa.oz.au (John R Marley) writes:
>The other problem may not be an Apollo problem, but I'll mention it anyway.
>When we run Splus on a 425t, we can hang the system by rapidly
>exposing/covering parts of Splus's X output window.  This works using either
>Xapollo or Xdomain.  When I say "hang", I mean the cursor and keyboard freeze
>and the flashing LED that indicates cpu activity freezes.  Nothing for it but
>to reboot.  We can reproduce this on a 425t.  We couldn't do it on a 425e, or a
>5500.  It appears to be getting confused trying to refresh a window while
>already refreshing.  This may be a bug in Splus, since I couldn't reproduce the
>problem with another package running.

My DN2500 would "hang" exactly as you describe, running SR10.4 and
Xapollo. The solution seemed to be rebuild all /dev, shutdown and
reboot. You might want to delete things like /dev/pty* and
/dev/tty[pqrs]? to make sure they get rebuilt. This seems to have cured
my system, including other problems where it couldn't spawn shells
properly, but this latter problem has now returned after a month, so
I imagine the "hangs" will be back too before Christmas.
-- 
What are the chances that any HP computer system will ever "work" properly?
... and Slim just left town. -*- Mike Peterson, SysAdmin, U/Toronto Chemistry
From: bag@node_1f11c.bnr.ca (Bill Gutknecht)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Making /lib/xmlib1.1 a global library in SR10.4
Keywords: motif, global, libraries
Date: 7 Nov 92 03:34:30 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Research Triangle Park, NC

I've noticed that Motif applications are roughly 3MB in size when running
and the associated executables are much, much smaller ... so I figure that
each application is dynamically loading the Motif library at runtime.  I'd
like to make the library globaly loaded in an effort to save memory 
and help performance (someone tell me if I'm off base here ... )

Anyhow, I entered the following two lines into /etc/sys.conf

lib xtlib.r4, global, optional  # Needed to resolve globals in xmlib1.1
lib xmlib1.1, global, optional

I reboot and everything seems ok until vuelogin tries to run, and the thing hangs.  I'm on a DN3500 running SR10.4 and mwm ... any ideas?

Thanks in advance ... 
 
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From: chuck@edsi.plexus.COM (Chuck Tomasi)
Subject: Re: Need Some Advice..
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 12:54:52 GMT

djf@bnr.ca (Duane Fowler) writes:

:)In article <1992Nov5.201427@helix.nih.gov>, rvenable@helix.nih.gov (Richard M. Venable) writes:

:)So what sorts of thing could DM do that X can't?

For the most part I agree with your statements that X is superior in
many ways (including documentation) to DM.  The consistency in look and
feel between applications is a major advantage.  True, not all
applications act the same under X, but having the same pull downs,
pushbuttons, etc. from toolkits makes it a lot easier to write programs
in that motif.

DM has a few nice things that X doesn't.  You mentioned scrollback.
Xterm has a limit on scrollback.  DM pads are darned near infinite.

DM also has a way of breaking a pad into multiple independently
scrolling windows.  Those who use TBR from Workstation Solutions know
what I'm talking about when they see the Op. Ex. window in action.
/etc/nfs/lb_admin is also another variation of this.

I'm all for going to X, but there are a few things I will miss about DM.
Once I get all my stations from Domain to HP-UX I'll be even happier,
but that is a long time and a lot of work down the road...
-- 
Chuck Tomasi             |   "A munk a clone and a Ferengi
chuck@edsi.plexus.COM    |    decide to go bowling together..."
spool!cserver!edsi!chuck |             -Data "The Outrageous Okana"
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From: chuck@edsi.plexus.COM (Chuck Tomasi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: 3COM PC-NFS to Domain not working
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:57:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: edsi.1992Nov12.215741.17164
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI

System synopsis: Domain/OS 10.3.5, ATR, PCs running DOS 5.0, Microsoft
LAN Manager 2.1, 3COM TCP/IP software and 3COM NFS.

I have several Domain nodes on the token ring and one on the ethernet.
I also have several HP-UX machines (300/400) running 8.0 on the
ethernet.  I successfully compiled and am running 3comnfsd on one of the
machines and told it to take care of servicing/authorizing all the other
nodes.  While I can nfs link just about any HP-UX machine I cannot link
the Domain machines (which I can successfully nfs mount with HP-UX nfs.)


I thought I should try compiling and running the 3comnfsd on the Domain
machine however it doesn't seem to know about several header files.  I
tried compiling it with SYSTYPE sys5.3 and bsd4.3 as well as steal a few
header files from the HP-UX machines.  That just drove the source code
for the 3comnfsd nuts.

Does anyone have any ideas how I can get 3COM NFS to mount a Domain/OS
disk/filesystem?
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: hpeyerl@novatel.cuc.ab.ca (Herb Peyerl)
Subject: Re: Need Some Advice..
Organization: "NovAtel Communications Ltd. Calgary, Alberta, Canada"
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:20:35 GMT

Jinfu Chen (chen@digital.sps.mot.com) wrote:
: This is true when all the Apollos are connected via ethernet.  However, in
: most Apollos installation, all nodes are connected via ATR and probably only
: one or few gateway nodes have direct interface to an ethernet.  Therefore NFS
: traffic on non-ethernet gateway node still goes through DDS on ATR.  I could
: be wrong if TCP/IP packet can be transferred directly as ATR tokens.

We have about 60% of our nodes on Ethernet and 40% on 3 different Token
Rings each of which have their own gateway to the ethernet... 

Yes, gateways *do* route IP packets. 

If you want to make the assumption that IP packets are encapsulated within 
DDS packets, then in order to make HP-UX reside on ATR, HP must then have 
ported DDS to HP-UX on 400's and 700's... That must mean 700's have 
node-ids. Somehow I doubt that.

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From: dlewis@sadlab.trans.comsat.com (Darian K. Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Please post.
Date: 6 Nov 1992 08:41:51 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Could you please post this for me as I have not gotten around to
installing news.  Thanks. 

To: comp.sys.apollo

I have an Apollo 9000/720 and need to know if it is possible to play
digitized sounds though the internal speaker.  I have some digital
audio I need incorporated in a program.  I am jealous of Sun for their
/dev/audio but I *refuse* to give up unless someone can tell me
definitely I am crazy.  Thanks.  Please email any comments you may
have about this, sans crazy declarations to:
dlewis@sadlab.trans.comsat.com

Much appreciated!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo,comp.sys.hp
From: hpeyerl@novatel.cuc.ab.ca (Herb Peyerl)
Subject: Re: Need Some Advice..
Organization: "NovAtel Communications Ltd. Calgary, Alberta, Canada"
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 19:54:51 GMT

Richard M. Venable (rvenable@helix.nih.gov) wrote:
: On the 710, you can mount the network root (//) as /apollo and then
: have
: access to all the Domain/OS nodes ( /apollo/nodeA, /apollo/nodeB,
: etc.).
: The 710 can be mounted on one NFS server node at the network root, e.g.
: as //hp710, and is then accessible to all the Domain/OS nodes.

In the Domain/OS NFS 4.1 release notes it recommends against mounting
the network root (//) for performance reasons.  It stands to reason
also.. Lets look at the following scenario:

You have two Apollo nodes; //A and //B as well as an HP-UX node "H".

H mounts A:// as /apollo.

H accesses a file on /apollo/B.

The file request goes to node A through NFS and then gets translated
to a DDS page-request to node B.  Node B supplies the page to node A
via DDS and Node A transfers the data to node H via NFS.

Therefore, all remote file accesses from Apollo nodes to HP-UX
nodes will go through node A.  This is an unnecessary link which
will affect performance.

A better solution is to install NFS on all of your Domain nodes
(with the transition from NFS2.3 to NFS4.1, a 2.3 license translates
to a 4.1 site license) and use the Automounter under HP-UX.  Then when
a file request for a file on Node B is queued, the Automounter will 
mount node B to wherever (presumably /apollo/B) and perform the
request.

: file, send a signal to 'init' to re-read /etc/ttys, and you have dialup
: using the standard Unix 'getty' process.

Preferably "kill -1 1" rather than something like "kill -9 1"... :-)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: Matthias.Krippendorf@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Matthias.Krippendorf)
Subject: Fujitsu 2263E, DN3?00, WD7000v
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:19:33 GMT

Hello reader

Is it possible to add a Fujitsu 2263E ESDI-drive to an DN3?00 workstation?

What are the correct settings for the drive and the controller?

Are there any pitfalls?

	Matthias Krippendorf
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: djf@bnr.ca (Duane Fowler)
Subject: Re: Need Some Advice..
Reply-To: djf@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:28:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.201427@helix.nih.gov>, rvenable@helix.nih.gov (Richard M. Venable) writes:
|> ...
|> token ring, we plan to run Domain/OS as long as possible.  Frankly,
|> NFS,
|> ethernet, and X windows are a step backwards as far as many long time
|> Apollo
|> users are concerned.  
|> 

Not to start a religious war or anything but, as a user of both windowing 
systems, I'm interested in knowing what people see in Domain pads, editor,
etc.  Sure the ability to search back through the pads was nice, but the 
functionality exists with Xterms -  just not as gracefully.

Other than that though there is little I miss.  I found the window manager
really painful for reasons too numerous to mention, but most had to do
with how little I was able to customize it.  There seemed to be too few
ways to do neat things that X, MWM, et al can do using resources, xset, etc.

Maybe I just didn't pick up the DM tricks along the way; if so I blame it
partly on the lack of documentation compared to O'Reilly and all the other
authors at various levels on X.

So what sorts of thing could DM do that X can't?


Regards,

Duane Fowler
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From: agerhardt@ttsi.lonestar.org (Alan Gerhardt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo,comp.sys.hp
Subject: Need Some Advice..
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:35:51 GMT
Organization: Tandem Telecommunications Systems Inc. Plano, Tx.

I have recently inherited responsibility for a network os about 40
HP9000/4xx workstations( Domain 10.4 ), and 1 HP9000/710 (HP-UX 8.7).
I would like to solicit any advice I could get about the following 3 
topics:


1) What's the best way to integrate the 710 into the Domain network,
   i.e. NFS mount the network root onto the 710, mount each using 
   node onto the 710, etc.?
   
2) What would be the best strategy for migrating the Domain network to
   HP-UX?   
   
3) What is the best way to implement a shared modem pool which would 
   allow dial-in access to the network?
   
   
   Thanks in advance
   Alan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: peterb@hpber010.swiss.hp.com (Peter Baumann)
Subject: Domain/OS Calls
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:48:17 GMT
Organization: the HP UK Response Centre
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Problem Description:
Wo would like to use the Domain/OS systems calls ios_$import and ios_$export to pass file descriptors between processes. Howewer, the Domain/OS Call Reference manuals do not adequately describe these calls. Is somebody out there who used
once these calls ???

Thanks for any reply !!

Peter Baumann HP Widen APOLLO-SUPPORT .
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: ron@netcom.com (Ron Przybylski)
Subject: 3COM EtherLink Card
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:40:55 GMT

Does anyone know how to configure a EtherLink card to work on a DN3000?

Everytime I use ifconfig on eth0 the system crashes down to the debugger.
The address, interrupt, and dma are all set to manufacturers specs and the Token Ring card works ok. 
There are empty sockets for RAM, but the manual doesn't talk about adding any 
chips.
Any help would be appreciated.
From: Bill_Horsthemke_at_CTC@RELAY.PROTEON.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Fortran Difference between Apollo / HPUX
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:09:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Proteon, Inc., Westborough, MA  01581  [(508)898-2800]

I have a Fortran program on an Apollo 10K (BSD environ)
that does not work on an HP 9000/750 HPUX 8.07.

On the apollo I check if the program is running 
interactively: e.g.        a.out
or a  script:  e.g.        a.out < run.file

The following code snippet works fine on an 
Apollo 10K in BSD environ, but
on a HP 9000 / 750 HPUX 8.07

C Fortran Code to check if interactive
C or to get the name of the input file
      CHARACTER*128 RUNFIL

      INQUIRE (5,NAME=RUNFIL)
C it appears that this inquire does not work on HPUX
C WHH check if this is interactive mode
      IF (INDEX(RUNFIL,'\dev') .NE. 0) THEN
         CHEKINTER = .TRUE.
      ELSE
         CHEKINTER = .FALSE.
         WRITE (*, '(/10X,A//10X,A,$)')  RUNFIL
C the HPUX prints out blanks for RUNFIL
C while the Apollo writes the name of file redirected to stdin
C 
      ENDIF

Any Ideas would help ? Also I have tried to use getarg
and iargc, but the linker cannot find them ?
 nm finds them in libf.a.

FYI I do not have access to manuals.

/bill 

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