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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:51:50 EDT
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From:         Monika Trzcinska <054470@UOTTAWA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: social psychology vs. sociology - more thoughts

Avishai,
Sorry, but I have to disagree with you.  Not all psychology is about people,
but all psychology is about behaviour.  No, I was not referring to neuropsych,
or comparative psych, but to physiological psych, or "behavioural neuroscience"
I use behaviour to study refractoriness of "reward neurons" in the rat.
Many, many, many years will pass, before findings from research of this type
will have any direct application for humans (maybe during Dr.Spocks time?).


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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:47:00 CDT
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From:         B057RAYL@UTARLG.UTA.EDU
Subject:      Re: biological constraints

I have always felt that, first of all, many of the early learning
theorists were indeed reluctant to accept the fact that there are so-called
biological constraints on learning.  This may have arisen for a couple of
different reasons: 1) early animal learning theorists (e.g., Hull,
Spence, Skinner, Amsel, etc) were concerned with identifying and
characterising one single theory of learning, one perspective that would
encompass all learning phenomena.  Obviously, the fact that certain
animals can learn only certain things at certain times is not good news
for someone trying to come up with one grand theory of learning 2) the
experimental paradigms used by early animal learners were quite
restricitve, in that they did not entirely allow organisms to express
their full range of behaviors.  Thus it became easy to ignore the things
that an animal couldnt or wouldnt do, and concentrate on more artificial
lab behaviors that were easier to manipulate and incorporate into
existing theoretical frameworks.  I hope this makes sense.

Ray Lopez
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From:         "(Eric Zorrilla)" <zorrilla@CATTELL.PSYCH.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: biological constraints

[Account of biological constraints on operant learning deleted]

> There's more, but this is just an example of w behavioral constraints
> means.  The question is, why have learning theorists been slow to
> recognize this and address it?

Do you really think they have?  The absence of equipotentiality of stimuli
and responses seems pretty well accepted to me from my reading of their
literature.  It might have been premature in coming simply because the
foundations of learning were that everything was essentially quite malleable.

Do others still see this as something that needs to be addressed or am I
out in leftfield by myself.  (It certainly needs to be continued to be
addressed - I mean in a remedial sense, of course).

Eric

P.S.  Congrats to all compers and dissers
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From:         "INAT000" <INAT@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      Special Welcome

Who are you? I was a student at Ottawa U in Psyc I should know you.
Well maybe you are too young or too old for me. Anyway, I am in
the search for psychotherapy tapes for research purposes. I want
to examine (listen, rate, evaluate, etc) real, complete psychotherapy,
counselling, assessment individual sessions conducted by either ordinary
clinicians, or by big deals in the field. Do you know where can I locate
some? Do you know anyone who tapes his/her sessions and would be
interested to share one (or more) with me? I mean we can take care
of the ethical and legal aspects of it and do it carefully, ethically
and legally. Do you have any ideas? Any of the subscribers?
Oh! by the way I am an assistant prof. at McGill and doing
psychotherapy process research. I am really interested and I would
appreciate any help.
thanks
anastassios stalikas
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Subject: multiple regression analysis
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:20:40 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

I am looking for a clear and concise explanation on multiple regression
analysis.  Please help with sources you have found helpful with
research.   Thanks!

katie
Community Psychology
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From:         CASE ELIZABETH <PSYGRDDEC@ORION.DEPAUL.EDU>
Subject:      bio constraints

MY apologies if I have not been fair to learning theorists in assuming
they have not addressed bio constraints.  That part was in the actual
question.  Maybe the correct answer was "They haven't ignored it and this
is why..."  Oh well...

I also proposed that it was slow to be addressed because it was harmful to
an overall theory of all behavior being learned.

I am curious, though, as to whether people think this makes studies done
on animals less generalizable to humans or not.

elizabeth
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From:         "Sala, Linda" <KMSA@MARISTB.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: behaviorism and clinical psychology

"PENIS ENVY"????????
I think you may have Castration complex if I have penis envy.
Just kidding. But speaking as a cognotive behaviorist I think it is how
a person views themself and how they react to a situation.  Or maybe
I am just messed in the head.
Linda
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Date:         Sun, 27 Sep 1992 11:18:54 -0500
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From:         20SSMITH@GALLUA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Freud Bashing

Ah!  So my comments did make it through the system and get posted...
I wasn't sure about that since I've always been a voyeur and never
participated in any of the fascinating discussions...allow me to introduce
myself and take full responsibility for the "sexist jerk" comment...
I am Sybil Smith, a 3rd year doctoral student in clinical psychology
at Gallaudet University in Washington DC...I am currently doing an
externship (clinical practicum) at a setting which has a strong psychoanalytic
orientation and am discovering how much there is to learn...sometimes
it is overwhelming and the defenses fail and the ego becomes disrupted
indeed...perhaps that is what happened when I made the sexist jerk remark,
n'est pas?  I agree with your response completely Mike and thank you for
responding on a level far more dignified and logical than my knee-jerk
hysterical one...
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From:         CASE ELIZABETH <PSYGRDDEC@ORION.DEPAUL.EDU>
Subject:      Radical Behaviorism

And now for a serious answer....(boo, hiss)

If I remember right, radical behaviorists are followers of Watson.  Or
is it Skinner?  It's one of the two, they differ on a number of points.
They differ from the neo-behaviorists who aren't as stringent on not allowing
any type of introspection or unmeasurable stuff (techincal term).

FYI, Skinner said that cognitive psychology was a fraud and a hoax.

Elizabeth in Chicago with only one comp left to take in 12 hours and 45 min
psygrddec@orion.depaul.edu
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:36:00 EDT
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From:         "David M. Fresco" <FRESCO@UNC.BITNET>
Subject: Re: behaviorism and clinical psychology

Tim,
I don't have my original post handy in front of me, but the point I was
making is:  generally, behavioral and physiological research IS
sufficient to explain infrahuman behavior.  If we also endorse a
Darwinian approach, the upward extension of those constructs should
apply to humans too.  I'm interested in toting as few constructs as
needed.  I'm mostly averse to constructs such as soul, god and ego.
They seem redundant in my mostly behavioral orientation even with a
dynamic flavor creeping in as I gain therapy experience.
David Fresco
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Date:         Sun, 27 Sep 1992 10:32:55 CDT
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From:         Chris Cameron <CCAMERON@UKANVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Assessment of People with disabilities

I am in the process of putting together a presentation for my assessment
class on the psychological assessment of people with disabilities.  In
my literature searches I have found a lot about functional assessment and
vocational assessment, but less about personality or assessment of
adjustment (like MMPI, TAT, Rorschach, etc.).  Does anyone have information
or experience about using assessment for diagnostic and therapeutic
purposes with people with sensory or physical disabilities? This presentation i
is October 5th (no, I don't procrastinate).  Thanks in advance - you can mail
privately to CCAMERON@UKNAVM or to the net if there is interest.

Chris at KU
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:26:20 EDT
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From:         "(Rick Adams)" <adamsr@AIS.ORG>
Subject:      Re:Family Photographs

>Hello all! Yet another banal note clogging up your mailboxes!  I'm a first year
= phd student at the University of Southampton, UK.  I'm going to be working on
= family photographs - and no, I can't be any more specific than that just yet!
= If anyone is aware of anyone researching in this area, or has read anything
= scintillating (or otherwise) on the subject of family albums, or has  invented
= a funky new methodology, or is a guru in an old one, or just wants to have a
= chat (sorry, read "intellectual discussion") about photos in general, please
= get in touch!

	If you haven't read Akeret's book on the subject, here's a cite:

Akeret, R. (1973). _Photoanalysis: How to interpret the hidden psychological
	meaning of personal photos._ (T. Humber, Ed.). New York: Peter
	Wyden, Inc.

	The book is a bit "pop psych" in style, but it _does_ introduce the
subject rather well and its stress on family photographs seems to be exactly
in the line you are interested in. Akeret, btw, is a practicing clinician
who is analytically trained, and former President of the Association of
Psychoanalytic Psychologists. He uses photoanalysis extensively in his
practice.

	Hope this helps.

	Rick
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 10:38:25 EDT
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From:         "Matthew Simpson" <054340@UOTTAWA.BITNET>
Subject:      Special Welcome

Hello everyone,
A warm and specially-noted welcome is extended to all of the new students
at NMSUVM1.  Overnight, there were approximately 11 new subscribers
from their sight.  Welcome to The PSYCGRAD Project!

Including PSYGRD-D (The PSYCGRAD Digest), there are over 360 subscribers
spanning approximately 12 different countries.

Have fun!

If anyone needs more information on the list, or needs questions anwered,
just ask me.

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fantastic
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I am looking for software that allows one to retrieve output
over a phone line using a modem from
one's computer account such as Statistical Analyses and Mail in
a short period of time and then look at them off line at one's
own leisure.  I would also like to be able to write code
for statistical analyses off line and respond to mail off
line and then load it back up over phone lines into my account.
Any suggestions?

Sharon Gordon
gordonse@uncg.bitnet
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   Hmmmm.  I think some people out there are just spoiling for a fight.
 Tim
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From:         "Kenneth V. White" <kwhite@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Criminal Psych Programs

There's a pretty cool clinical PhD/law JD 5 year program at Northwestern.
I'm not sure if they officially refer to it as a "forensic psychology"
track, but that's what it is.

The department # is (312) 908-8262, and is administered out of the
Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, which in the
Medical School's psychology division.

Kenn
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From:         "Matthew Simpson" <054340@UOTTAWA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Freud Bashing

On Sun, 27 Sep 1992 16:31:45 -0500 <20SSMITH@GALLUA> said:
>Can someone please bring me up to speed...RADICAL behavorism...am I
>missing something here...is that different in some way from plain
>ole' behaviorism...more narrowly defined perhaps...I'm out of the
>loop on this one
>
I'd like to take a crack at this one.
This is a comparison of radical behaviorism with methodological
behaviorism.

METHODOLOGICAL BEHAVIORISM (as I understand it) seeks to account for
the behavior of an organism by studying only the stimuli being presented
to the organism.  Behavior is the result of the organisms reaction to
stimuli.  Little regard is maintained for the physical construction
of the organism or internal behavioral events.  Generally, attention
is placed only on stimulus and response.  It is common for people
to refer to behaviorism as "radical behaviorism."  However, when
questioned, it is often discovered they mean "methodological
behaviorism."

      STIMULI ===> ORGANISM ====> RESPONSE


RADICAL BEHAVIORISM seeks to account for behavior of an organism by
looking at the three things: the physical construction of the organism,
the past stimuli presented to the organism, and the present stimuli
presented to the organism.  By examining the interaction of these
three things, the radical behaviorist may attempt to explain any
behavior.

     PRESENT STIMULI
     PAST STIMULI           ======>  RESPONSE
     PHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION

I've offered this to you without refering to my notes.  The notes are
at school.  Have fun.

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From:         "(Chris W. Schatschneider)" <cws3@PO.CWRU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Experimental and Clinical Psychology

Actually, some of my favorite misconceptions about psychologists portrays
us as mindreaders.  If you saw the Clarence Thomas - Anita Hill
hearings, you heard a number of senators say things like "I'm not
a psychologist, so I don't know what she was thinking".  As if we
have some sort of telepathic powers bestowed upon us when we get
our Ph.D's! (we don't, do we?).

Chris
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