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From: gkatz@csws4.ic.sunysb.edu (Gerald W Katz)
Subject: Re: Nannites Vs Borg
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:08:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.032252.25222@netcom.com> jwells@netcom.com (Jason Paul Wells) writes:

>
>Yes, perhaps, but I also believe that in the "Best of Both Worlds" it
>was brought up that if we bred the Nannites to fight our wars for us,
>what does that make us? It becomes a moral dilemma. If worse comes to
>worse, I admit there would be little choice in the matter. However, I
>don't think that would fit with Gene's style, which the writers have
>vowed time and time again to uphold...
>
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It has also been mentioned that due to the Borg's success rate
of assimilating cultures, they'd might assimilate the Nanites
before they could finish their mission.  In other words, they'd be
working for the Borg and hence used against the Federation.

gkatz
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From: cwarrick@diana.cair.du.edu (CATHERINE E. WARRICK)
Subject: Re: The Official Dorm-Rec Review of "A Fistful of Data's" (spoilers)
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 02:23:33 GMT

In article <BxsCF9.LD5@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> myempire@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Matt J. Martin) writes:

>   And I never met a woman that 
>was a match for me, in any area.  Nope, no fear here. 


I can believe that.  I've never met ANYONE who was a match for you.  You are
without question the most obnoxious person on the net.  And I say that     
without any fear that I'll hurt your feelings, since you'll probably take it
as a compliment.


Cathy


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From: andy@eies2.njit.edu (Andy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Joan Rivers Blunder!
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:44:07 GMT
Organization: NJIT - EIES2



Did anyone else catch this foot-in-mouth comment?

When (what's his name) Worf came out and was speaking to Joan he said
something like "Yeah, I'm sick of playing doctors and people... so
and so *Your husband is dead*".

Did you notice everyone else on stage cringe?

I mean Joan's husband only died a year or so ago.  I think that was a
pretty insensitive thing for him to say!
From: edwardl@freddyk.uucp (Edward Langenback)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Troi 24..30...56...
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 22:11:48 CST
Reply-To: freddyk!edwardl@engr.uark.edu
Organization: NightMares R Us

laurahal@microsoft.com (Laura Halliday) writes:

> 
> *I* don't see what the problem is. Marina Sirtis is a woman,
> and is shaped like one. Like a real woman, not the 12 year old
> pseudo-male figures that the fashion industry seems obsessed with.
> 
> I think she has a cute butt...

agreed, not to mention several other assorted parts as well. <g>

> ...laura in a curmudgeonly mood
> 
...Ed in a somewhat different mood.  



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From: as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Quality of Life <spoilers>
Date: 22 Nov 1992 01:12:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Data should be shot.  Who is in charge of the Enterprise, is there a chain
of command or not?!  Riker's credibility as a commanding officer hs surely
been lost.  What happens if every bridge officer in Starfleet starts disobeying
orders like that?  Well of course it's only a TV show, but this constant
Data Mutiny is wearing thin.

McFadden seems to be trying to modify the role of Dr. Crusher.  Playing poker
with the boys? ;)

Where was Spot in the scene where Data was examining the R2D2 thing?  I
thought it'd be a nice touch if Spot had jumped into the scene like he did
last week.

I found the episode unbelievable and totally unrealistic and it quickly
deteriorated into another "Data takes over the ship" episode. (Is anyone
keeping count of these?)

Mike
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From: JC924@uacsc2.albany.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Enterprise Sux
Date: 15 Nov 92 15:01:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: uacsc2.168A08CF3.JC924
Organization: University at Albany, Albany NY 12222

In article <1992Nov13.161620.3819@engr.latech.edu>
rsh@engr.latech.edu (Tracer) writes:
 
>In article Mf0InCa00VpF0jZWgu@andrew.cmu.edu, "Richard K. Shehady" <rs7f+@andrew.cmu.edu> () writes:
>>I have Never, to this day, seen the Enterprise beat an enemy warship of
>>comparable power.  Oh sure, they wasted a few tiny ships here and there,
>>but they've never beaten anyone of consequence.
>
The Enterprise is NOT a warship, it is on an overall mission of peace and
exploration.  Their weapons are primarily defensive and are only used
offensively in unusual circumstances.  Remember, they have a crew of over
a thousand, including civilians and families with children.  Riker is  not
going to endanger them unless he absolutely has to.  Also remember that the
Federation is not at war with the Klingons and he did not know that they were
actually Ferengi.  To see the difference between the actual Enterprise and
the E as a warship see "Yesterday's Enterprise";  there are no families or
civilians on the ship and the ship is prepared for battle at all times.
From: cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows)
Subject: Re: I liked Fistful of Datas *** Major Spoilers ***
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 23:37:07 GMT

In article <1e15teINN7i5@gap.caltech.edu> thogek@cco.caltech.edu (Thomas 
. Kiefer) writes:
>In article <8297@public.BTR.COM> rem@btr.BTR.COM (Robert E. Maas  rem@bt
.com) writes:
>[lots o' stuff deleted]
>>I was rather surprized that Worf was able to out-draw Data's character.
>>Anybody have a good explanation? Was it because the link between Data
>>and the gunfighter was weak (not enough program had been transferred),
>>or because the purge of the program mixup was nearly done so the
>>gunfighter was being emasculated at the time, or just the scriptwriter
>>letting the good guy win for no good reason?
>
>Did Worf outdraw Data?  I seem to recall "Data" drawing first, emptying
>his six-gun into Worf's shield, then, as a henchman tossed "Data"
>another gun, Worf drew and fired (or at least got a head start) *before*
>"Data" had his gun ready to go.  I.e., Worf had that time while "Data"s
>second gun was flying through the air as a head start.
>
>My only curiosity is Worf's instantly wonderous aim.  Maybe he should
>have a phaser built in the shape of a six-gun for himself.  ;-)
>-- 
>======================================================
>====> Thomas Kiefer <===> thogek@cco.caltech.edu <====
>======================================================



A minor ret-con regarding the wondrous aims in the case of Troi's
hat-shot and Worf's pistol/hand-shot.  They seemed a little too con-
trived to me, until I remembered where this was.  This is the HOLO-
DECK.  It's running a program that is dependant upon certain things
taking place--the good guy getting the drop on the bad guys, the good
guy having perfect aim, the bad guys not being able to shoot worth 
spit, etc. 

What I'm trying to say is that if they even aimed their guns in the
right direction, the computer would automatically interpret this as
a hit.  After all, shooting someone's gun from his hand, like 
they did in those old western movies, is actually darn near im-
possible, so the holodeck pulled a bit of "movie magic" and called
it a hit.

That's what I think, anyway...

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From: jgm@boi.hp.com (John McBride--in my own private Idaho)
Subject: Re: Points to Ponder: Fistful of Datas
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:22:52 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

: 
: >           (2) My first reaction when Worf shot the gun out of "Data's" hand
: >  was "Impossible!  Worf's not that good a shot." ;)
: 
: Actually, my reaction was a groan.  D'you think a Wild West Sherriff would
: really try to hit the *gun*?  (Espcaially at that distance?)  Only on Star
: Trek: The Bloodless Generation.
: 
Maybe he had been watching Rustlers Rapsody, a western parody with
Tom Berenger.  In that movie, the good-guys never shoot anything except
for the hands, and they never shoot other good-guys.


John McBride
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From: huffnagl@sunfish.rutgers.edu (ralph huffnagle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Peter Gabriel a Ferengi?
Summary: Has any one else heard Peter Gabriel is to play a Ferengi?
Keywords: Ferengi
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:37:09 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Watching the MTV video awards, I saw Dana Carvey introducing Peter
Gabriel and Annie Lennox as two people who were going to play Ferengi
lovers in the upcoming season of Star Trek:TNG. Has anyone else heard
this or was it just a bad joke?

I also heard Arnold Schwarzenager was to also be on this season?
"Hasta la vista, Picard."
From: 00jlrushton@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: HUGE HUMOR!!!!! (make more humor)
Date: 22 Nov 92 07:03:24 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's



Future show humor:

Troi's butt explodes when hit by a open flame the gas leak from it!
ITS A HUGE EXPLOSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Worf reads a book! Wow !

Data dresses up like Mario to fix the plumbling in the bathroom area!
Coming in Dataland 3 to Super NES !!! aka mario blows!

Riker gets pregnant ! Nightmare city!

Guinain gets really drunk with Lt. Forge and make a rap music song!
Fab Five Freddy as a rapping Vulcan! ouch! Yo stng! 

Riker gets stuck with Ro in the turbo elevator for six days ! smirk!

A gay member of the Q comes (with a snap) to play with the cast!
Oh what funny jokes could be made on this issue! 

Wesley and Alexander become lovers ! Don't ask!

Doctor Crusher from an early disease becomes a nympho!
Madonna as Crushers sister! 

Picard gets an Afro! funky cool man!

Ice Tea comes on as a Borg! OUCH!


Barkley comes back as captain! god help us all!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

too much humor.......

please

make SOme more Jokes! 
and/or reaponded

signed,

that one guy behind TROI'S HUGE BUTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Official Dorm-Rec Review of "A Fistful of Data's" (spoilers)
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:47:42 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Nov16.045600.18231@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>, dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann) writes:

> In article <BxsCF9.LD5@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, myempire@mentor (Matt J. Martin) writes:
>>And I never met a woman that was a match for me, in any area.

> Don't get out much, you say?

>>Nope, no fear here.

> Yeah, right.

Ha ha ha!  THIS guy's posting will draw more followups than 100 postings
all saying that "Majel was married to Bill Shatner" or "Lost in Space was
better!" ;-)

Terry
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From: cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  )
Subject: Re: Nannites Vs Borg
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:31:39 GMT

>>>I saw the episode 'Evolution' yesterday (we are way behind on TNG seasons)
>>>and thought that the nannites (right spelling??) could be an effective
>>>weapon against the Borg. Imagine if these mechanical viruses got onboard 
>>>the Borg ship! Hmm....any comments?
>
>>	I believe this was mentioned as a way a possible way of fighting
>>the Borg in one of the "Best of Both Worlds" episodes.  However, it was
>>ruled out as a possibility because it would take too long to make 'em or
>>something.  So we may indeed see this weapon used against our favorite
>>collective consciousness in a future show (continuity in TNG?! ...
>>wierder things have happened!) 
>
>Yes, perhaps, but I also believe that in the "Best of Both Worlds" it
>was brought up that if we bred the Nannites to fight our wars for us,
>what does that make us? It becomes a moral dilemma. If worse comes to
>worse, I admit there would be little choice in the matter. However, I
>don't think that would fit with Gene's style, which the writers have
>vowed time and time again to uphold...

I believe there was also a discussion of nanities in "Vendetta". There
was definately discussions about the morality of using them in such a
manner. I forget the exact text, but it is in there. They may have no
other choice, but why do I get the funny feeling this still wouldn't
stop the Borg.

BTW, add my name to the list of people who feel Vendetta should be the
first ST:TNG movie. Not only oneo of the best ST books out there, but
one of the best books I have read in a long time.

-Craig


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From: xenon@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.tech
Subject: Data is not a swiss army knife (was: Why Is Data so limited?
Date: 22 Nov 92 11:13:26 -0500
Summary: Too many built-in devices is inefficient
Distribution: world
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

Ever used a swiss army knife?  The attachments work tolerably well, but not
nearly as well as a set of separate tools.

If data had every possibly useful device built into him, he's probably be about
the size of a refrigerator.  It makes a lot more sense for him to have
predominantly general-purpose appendages (like hands), and he can just *pick
up* a phaser, tricorder, screwdriver, or whatever... 

- xenon

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From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Gomer Pyle, U.F.P.
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 01:43:25 EST

In article <1992Nov17.213627.28101@rtsg.mot.com>
collier@rtsg.mot.com (John T. Collier) writes:
>crew, so I was wondering what shows were on at this earlier hour;
>probably reruns of "The Andy Griffith Show" or "Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C."
>My brain then latched onto the bizarre idea of T.V. show that combines
>the best (or worst) of "Gomer Pyle" and ST:TNG.  So now, for your
>reading displeasure, I present:
>
>	GOMER PYLE, U.F.P. (United Federation of Planets)
>
>Captain Picard:	"Open hailing frequencies to the Intrepid, Mr. Pyle."
>
>Gomer:		"Gollllly, Captain, I'm not sure which button to
>		 push ... maybe this one here ..."
>
>Captain Picard:	"No you idiot ..."
>
>Sound Effect:	"BOOOM!"  <- The sound of the Intrepid blowing up.
>
>Gomer:		"Shazam, shazam, shazam!"
>
>Captain Picard:	"Mr. Worf, please take Mr. Pyle to the transporter
>		 room and beam him into outer space."
>
>Worf:		"Gladly, Captain."
>
>
    This has (more or less) been done in TNG already.  Remember Barclay?
 
 
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From: rccarm00@nx19.mik.uky.edu (ron c carman)
Subject: Re: ST Con Hilights from San Diego with Brent Spiner (11/8/92)
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Path: nx19.mik.uky.edu!rccarm00
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:02:39 GMT

trekkie@netlink.cts.com (Bryce Newall) writes:
 
>(A) Ron Moore & Brannon Braga
> 
>   - TNG will probably do a 7th season, and Ron, being a "betting
>     man", thinks they will do an 8th season as well.

   Then I suppose we will be seeing "Captain Riker"?  Stewart
definitely does not want to continue for another season as a
regular character...

>   - Lursa and B'Etor, the sisters of Duras from "Redemption", will
>     be in Deep Space Nine

   This doesn't exactly thrill me.  I didn't like them in "Redemption",
and I suspect I will like them less in DSN.

>   - There will be a 2nd Q show this season.

   Finally, some good news.  Any mention of Amanda Rogers?

>   - There will be several Romulan episodes coming up this season.

   About time.  Let's hope they don't make the Romulans into 
bumbling fools. *Again*.

>   - We will see Barclay again this season.

   I am decidedly ambivalent about this.  His last appearance was
far from stellar.  Let's hope the script for his next episode is
better.

>   - Remember Moriarty from 2nd season's "Elementary Dear Data"?  He 
>     will be back this season.

   TNG establishing continuity with itself?  No way. ;-)

>   - Moriarty and Barclay will be going head-to-head when they 
>     return.

   Ugh.  This one could be another "Cost of Living".  Then again,
Barclay seems to have an affinity for the holodeck... ;-)
 
>   - Lwaxana will also be appearing again this season in TNG.

   Hmmm... "Cost of Living, Part II"???  Please let them
write a better script.

>   - Someone asked about how Patrick Stewart didn't seem to be having 
>     much screen time this season.  Lolita said that an upcoming 
>     two-parter called "Chain of Command" (not to be confused with 
>     the book called "Chains of Command") will be "The ultimate 
>     Picard episode".

   This will really have to be something extraordinary in order to eclipse
"The Inner Light" as the "ultimate Picard episode", IMO.

RC Carman

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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER 2099)
Subject: Re: _Debt of Honor_ (some spoilers)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:49:05 GMT

re: Cats' Laughing the Excalibur sessions

Chris established that one of Kitty Pryde's (Shadowcat of EXCALIBUR) favorite
bands if Cat's Laughing.  They appeared, with Kitty, in Excalibur Special #2
Mojo Mayhem.


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From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Subject: Re: Blooper in "Fistfull..." Possible Spoilers.
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:18:16 GMT

jnb@calmasd.prime.com writes:
 >>Possible spoilers















>I didn't notice that blooper, but at the end there was a very apparent one
>with Worf looking in the mirror and pretending to quick-draw with his
>left hand, but when they go to a non-mirror image, he's got his right
>hand extended instead.  Take a look at it, it's really noticable.

I checked that and sorry...there wasn't a blooper...he drew with his right
hand and then when they flash to the non-mirror image, he is holding up
his right hand.

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From: 00jlrushton@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Sexual jokes on STNG! make more jokes!
Date: 17 Nov 92 08:09:05 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's



Was Data sexually attracted to the those metal pig things?

smile

maybe spot will get a female cat and have baby spots!

Maybe Riker and Troi will follow suit!!! :)

or crusher and picard ... smirk!

crusher, why not i did ! ha ha ha

some "poker" games snicker...

what about ensign Ho .. ugh Ro!

Data screws a female Borg! ha ha ha

keep on trekking!
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From: kennyy@microsoft.com (Kenny Young)
Subject: questions about fistful...
Date: 21 Nov 92 04:27:56 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

i have two questions--

1. when eli/data was shuffling cards
the close up showed extremely hairy
arms.  what was the point?

2. the barmaid/data's chest seemed to
be a different color than his face.
did this appear to be material rather
than flesh to anyone else?

i know, not earth shattering questions,
but hey, i want to know!!

dana

kennyy@microsoft.com
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From: barry@seas.smu.edu (Robert Barry)
Subject: Re: Amusing Season 6 errors (None posted previously)
Summary:  just read it.
Organization: SMU School Of Engineering and Applied Science
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:30:11 GMT

In article <aabbasi.722012749@vela> aabbasi@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Amal A. Abbasi) writes:
>>I believe Troi never really smokes (I don't think it's possible on the
>>ship, anyway), she just gnaw's on the stogie (sp?) like it's a Slim Jim
>
>Troi does actually smoke.  Didn't she blow smoke in Worf's face?  It
>looked real enough to me.

"Looked real" huh?  Kinda like the whole town "looked" real.  Kinda like
EVERYTHING in the holodeck look real. 

Why is it that the holodeck can simulate everything but a cigarate and 
some smoke?  I dont really understand why everyone is so riled about 
this.

Robert