From: lal@cs.arizona.edu (The New Sun)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Nobel Prize & IITs
Date: 5 Oct 92 03:32:18 GMT







In article <SHUBU.92Oct4000452@green.cs.wisc.edu> shubu@cs.wisc.edu (Shubhendu Mukherjee) writes:
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>>>>>> In article <1akhtgINN3i@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, rajesh@quince (Rajesh Raman) writes:
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>RR> Of the people who go abroad after having a subsidised education
>RR> in India the IIT students are the worst offenders. 
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>RR> You say that IITians are proud and sometimes arrogant about their
>RR> being the best. You are the best. Can you take up any challenge? So far
>RR> you have shown that you can't. 
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>Huh!  Again that patriotism BS.
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>RR> If you are the best rise to the occasion. If not quit saying that
>RR> you're the best.
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>BTW, not all the IIT-ians do come to USA.  Look around in the industry in 
>India.  I have friends (both from IITs and not from IITs) in different 
>industries.  And they have told me on many occasions the bias is towards
>IITs.  Pray why????  
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>Unfortunately, we don't have the real statistics to measure the success of 
>the IITs.  But in the industry they are *extremely* successful.  To name a
>few, Tilak Sen from IIT KGP is the Vice-President of an Oil Firm (I forget 
>the name) in Phillipines.  One guy from IITK is a VP in a Computer 
>Industry in Thailand.  Ajoy Dutta (from IIT KGP) is the VP of SemaTech (?)
>(in Austin) - the company which is coming up with Solar Batteries. 
>The Director of Research (in one of the TIs) is a B.Tech. from one of 
>the IITs.  One of the top-shots in Wipro, India (VP?) - is from IITK.  But this
>is only the tip of iceberg.
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>-Shubu
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IIT the best? - perhaps in India, there are hundreds of better institutes here. 
I am doing my bachelor's in Computer Engineering at University of Arizona, and I think the education provided here is much better then at any IIT or REC .
	My father did his B.Sc. at BHU and now is the VP of a firm that is number one in its field in the world. Does this prove that BHU is a great university - I think not, my father's success has nothing to with BHU.
	I think all this talk about IIT vs. them is crap!!! IIT is a good institution - a vey good institution by Indian standards, and it is extremely difficult to get in. It is the most recognized Indian institution in the world. Because of IITs reputation and standing a lot of people want to get in, but the elite few do - these are intelligent hardworking people.
	The reason IIT graduates are sought after is not primarily because of their university education, but because of the recognition of the fact that if he went to IIT, he must have been very bright or hardworking to have made it.
	Talking to some proffesors at Califonia State University, they said that IIT students were very strong on theory, but weak on practical experience or training.
	I believe that the it is self deprecitaing for IIT graduates to attribute their success in future endavours due to their prior education in IIT. This may very well be an important factor, but the reason for their success is probably the fact that they are bright and hardworking ( the same qualities that let them get into IIT).
	The reason people succeed is not because they went to Stanford or M.I.T. or IIT but because of who they are.
	I believe that there is no clear solution to the problems facing IIT, but I feel that IIT is an institution which India should be very proud of and should be supported.
	Perhaps a system of full cost bearance of education by the students coupled with need based financial aid, and student loans. What IIT might to do is to get in touch with Indian Industry, and work on Industry projects at IIT. IIT should be more actively involved with the industry in India. This might help them get more funds and allocate student assisatantships to needy or/and outstanding students.
	There is no reason for the Indian people to pay to educate a handful of students going to University. Pre-University education, I believe, should be affordable for the average person, but I see no reason to continue this charity any further. Students in India should be willing to work to support themselves like students in U.S.A.	
	I do not believe that the majority of Indians will agree with my points made in the previous paragraph, because most indians recieve aid and not give the aid. So let those who pay most of the taxes support them who pay little taxes, after all India is a Socialist democracy.
	This issue about the funding of IIT does not concern me much. I just wanted to clear up some misconceptions that I came along while reading these articles. 
	IIT is the probably  best institution in India for B.Tech. I am not qualified to make a judgement on this issue. One good institution that nobody has mentioned is BITS. IIT be loved.

Abhinav Lal


 







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