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From: tatakamoto@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu (Teri Takamoto)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: Eye of the Beholder III
Summary: There *will* be an EOB3!
Keywords: SSI, EOB, EOB1, EOB2, EOB3, Eye of the Beholder
Date: 18 Dec 92 11:57:05 GMT
Reply-To: tatakamoto@csupomona.edu
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: tatakamoto

In article <BzFr5z.6Ms@cs.dal.ca>, ronan@ug.cs.dal.ca (brian c ronan) writes:
> Sorry to dissappoint anyone but the resource I have
> told me and I read something similar that the creators
> of Eye of the Beholder (1 and 2) and programmers have
> LEFT SSI and now work for Virgin software...they brought
> you Legends of Kryandia or whatever that game was..
> HENCE THERE WILL BE NO MORE EOB GAMES...I know I know
> and I'm just as pissed as you are...sorry..I HOPE I'M
> WRONG OR HAVE BEEN MISINFORMED

     Let's straighten all this out, shall we?
     1.  You're right, Westwood Studios, creators of EOB1 & 2, have indeed
severed ties with SSI and are now developing games like Kyrandia for
Virgin.
     However!
     2.  SSI *is* going to release an EOB3 next year.  It's being
developed "in-house".  Your guess is as good as mine as to how it will
turn out compared to the previous games.  The last release date I heard
for EOB3 was around March/April 1993, but we know how release dates are...
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Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: albeaj@jima.b17d.ingr.com (Jim Albea)
Subject: Mailing List and FTP for Plateau
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:39:25 GMT

There is a mailing list for the game Plateau.  For information
and to subscribe to the list contact:

                plateau-request@plateau.com

                           or

              ...uunet!plateau-request!plateau


An electronic version of the game (called "Honor Plateau") that
facilitates email play is available via anonymous FTP at:

                   ftp.cd.chalmers.se

                 Name: anonymous
             password: <your address here>

            directory: pub/plateu
                 file: plateu.tar.Z.uu

                 Then: $ uudecode plateu.tar.Z.uu
          This yields: plateau.tar.Z
                 Next: $ uncompress plateau.tar.Z
                 Then: tar xvf plateau.tar
          This yields: several items including information files.
              Finally: make
  

-- 
Jim Albea                     albeaj@jima.b17d.ingr.com

Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: rojas@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Ken Rojas)
Subject: Clouds of Xeen: Voyage to the Darkside
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 01:10:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: rojas@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Ken Rojas)
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

I have killed Lord Xeen in the game, but have not figured out how to
get to the darkside.  There hasn't been any clues, that I've found, that give
info on how to get the "moons aligned for passage" at the pyramids.  Any 
suggestions would be appreciated.

e-mail to :
 Kenr@gpsrv1.gpsr.colostate.edu

=======================================================
 Ken Rojas
 Hydrologist / environmental physicist
 kenr@gpsrv1.gpsr.colostate.edu

      "There is a fine line between being a coding fool and coding 
       like a fool."  
				    -Mike Wieble
				     storage technologies, 1991
=======================================================
From: menchett@pyramid.unr.edu (Peter J Menchetti)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Out of this world crack needed
Date: 18 Dec 92 03:42:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno  Department of Computer Science

I remember reading a post concerning this the other day... if whoever posted
that got any results, could you please email them to me? I just bought the
game, and the fucking wheel wasn't even in the box!
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:20:13 EST
From: <EDL103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: [For Sale] MSDOS games

CLOSE OUT PRICES!!!!GET THEM WHILE THEY'RE HOT!!!!(cant you tell, I'm not a
marketing major)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
                      Brad's Great Game Givaway II
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

  You pay shipping (+/-$2.50 a game).  But if you buy a bunch of games, we'll
 cut a deal on the shipping.  Remember '*' means 3 1/2 disks......
                                   Was     Now Asking
MSDOS
    * Eye of the Beholder          $23        $20
      Ultima 6                     $23        $20
    * Castles                      $20        $18
      Ultima 5                     $18        $15
      Wrath of the Demon           $15        $13
      AD&D Pool of Radiance        $13        $10
      Keef the Thief               $10        $8
    * Questron II                  $8         $5
      Shadowgate                   $8         $5
      Sinbad and the TotF          $5         $3
      Shard of Spring              $5         $3
      Rings of Ziflin              $5         $3
      Uridium                      $3  (i'll give them away to the
      Zany Golf                    $3     total sale)


   (of course all games come with all docs and boxes, in generally good
condition, except for WotD, which has a somewhat mauled box)

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     I'll keep everyone informed of what's been bid on what. Bidding will
end on Wed 16, @ 12:00 pm. By then I'll inform the leading bidders, if
they then don't want a particular game, it will then go to the next highest
bidder.

     Any way, fill out the above thingy, and I'll get back to you....

                                -brad
From: andrew@frip.WV.TEK.COM (Andrew Klossner)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: The BEST System!
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:14:52 GMT
Reply-To: andrew@frip.wv.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix Color Printers, Wilsonville, Oregon

[]

	"The Cyrix CPU cost little more than the 486SX chip yet I
	expect it will yield significantly better performance over the
	SX."

Nope.  The 486SX beats the pants off the Cyrix chip.  It has 8k cache
instead of 1k and requires about half the cycles per instruction.  For
details, read comp.sys.intel where these parts are discussed in detail.

	"The Cyrix does take advantage of the 486 reduced instruction
	set."

The 486 doesn't have a 'reduced instruction set.'

	"The DX2-100 will be readily installable on the multiboard
	since it is configured to handle the Intel 486DX-50 chip ..."

But you'll spend most of your time suspended by memory wait states.

	"I was intrigued by Local Bus, but have finally decided that as
	fads come and go, ISA will always be around (at least for the
	next five years)."

Ouch.  If you pipe your video over ISA, you're spending all your
screen-update time pushing data through an small knothole.  Sure, ISA
will be there for five years -- for sound boards, serial ports, and
other low-bandwidth needs.

	"I have my Clk2 (which controls the bus speed) set at
	20Mhz--reliably!"

This is fine until you install the one board that can't handle it, and
then you'll have to slow down the entire system.  And you're *still*
clocking video data at less than half native speed.

	"I would have bought an EISA motherboard, but for the price.  I
	truly believe that EISA will be the next standard ..."

EISA is the fad that is going away.  It never hit critical mass.
Localbus addresses the same needs and does so at a reasonable price.

  -=- Andrew Klossner  (andrew@frip.wv.tek.com)
                       (uunet!tektronix!frip.WV.TEK!andrew)
From: margot@disuns2.epfl.ch (Joel Margot)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: Wiz 7 / DSAVANT
Keywords: Arg!
Date: 18 Dec 92 12:21:38 GMT
Reply-To: margot@disuns2.epfl.ch (Joel Margot)
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

In article <1992Dec14.140922.25218@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> rcerami@donner.cc.bellcore.com (cerami,richard s) writes:
>I'm in the Arms of Argus but that Umpani dude won't offer to
>trade with me.  I offer peace, bribe, etc.. but he always just
>walks away or decides to fight.  (I've told him what he wanted me
>to tell him).  What do I need to do to get this thing to talk to me?

 --------------------- Spoilers -------------------------

Tell him 'BLACK MARKET'. Don't ask me why and how this comes...   

>Also,  how do I get into see the Umpani Attache' in New City?  I've
>been through Ulkpur...

 --------------------- idem -----------------------------

There is somewhere in Ukpyr a teleporting room, which you need to use
to get into the Umpani Detache place, where you can find the Lewarx guy.
You have to register as new recruits to the Umpani and do the missions
until the Sgt there tells you to go to New City and find Lewarx. Then 
you'll get an item, a badge (Humpa card, if I remember well) that allows 
you into the teleporting device room... 

Merry Christmas to all of you.

Joel
From: hardgrov@pilot.njin.net (Roy Hardgrove)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Wizardry 7 EDITOR
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:02:22 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Hello:

I have seen some talk regarding the editing of "Dark Savant"
characters.  Someone has already gone through the effort of creating a
full running program that does just that!  This program not only gives
you complete power over you character stats, but it allows you to add
ANY item in the game to your inventory.  Further, the program author
includes a numbered list of each and every item broken down by
category.  You can find it for sure at:
	1) wuarchive => pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS/wiz7edit.zip
			or
	2) ftp.ulowell.edu => Editors/wiz7edit.zip   (there is also an
		editor for Underworld characters here by the same
		fellow--goodstuff!)

I have had no trouble using either editor and the Wizardry editor is
particularly nice.  Try giving you fighting character "Excaliber", or
"The Avenger", or "The Sword of Hearts"--impressive.  How about adding
a "Mana Stone (#290)" to you party, you will always have spells.  Or
you could....

I could go on forever, since there are so many things you can add and
change but you should just dial up and get a copy for yourself right
now!

Good Luck:

Roy F. Hardgrove
-----------------
"...my surprise began to diminish as my knowledge increased; and I
ceased to feel those apprehensions and alarms which had taken such
stong possession of me..."
				- Gustavus Vassa
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From: gregbb@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Gregory B. Beuthin)
Subject: Paganitzu 2: room 17
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:39:27 GMT

So enamoured was I with Paganitzu I sent out for Paga2 and 3.  However, I
have been stuck in room 17 in Paga 2 for the last three months now, and
was wondering if their was anyone out their who had faced the same
dilemma.  So far I have no extra bombs when I enter the room, and I was
wondering if that was the problem.....

Please excuse me if this has been discussed before- I don't read this
newsgroup regularly :-(  
Direct mail is mucho preferred :-)  Thanx a lot for any help!
--
Greg "Boyteen" Beuthin             | Respect....              ___   Keep 
(gregbb@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu)    |                        /  |  \  the
Social Sciences Computer System    |                       |  /|\  |  vibe
University of Hawai'i at Manoa     |                        \/_|_\/  alive
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: David.White@launchpad.unc.edu (David White)
Subject: Re: NITEMARE missions for Wolf-3D v1.1+
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:58:20 GMT

>I have installed the NITEMARE missions on Wolf v1.1, but only the first level
>had the new maps / guards.  Anyone had similar difficulties?

I noticed that too, Steve.  Although the later levels do typically have
one or two different things (like a maze or secret panels that lead to
secret rooms, one or two new rooms, etc.) only level 1 and level 10 (which
has been completely reworked) are much different.  Kind of disappointing -
almost as if the programmer was really gung-ho till he got to level 2 and
just sort of quit.

Anyway, I hope to post ANOTHER set of missions for Wolf tomorrow (after I
try 'em out) - maybe they'll be better.

=-=-= David =-=-=

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Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: wyman@rtsg.mot.com (Mark S. Wyman)
Subject: Re: x-wing
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 05:36:01 GMT

sat28485@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scooter) writes:

>I'm on a waiting list for it..
>They said it would be in Monday or Tuesday..
>Anyone else have better luck?
>-Dan

Lucasfilm rep on GEnie said it has been delayed until after Xmas.
Better start thinking about buying checkers for Xmas since all the
game companies have missed their Xmas deadlines (as usual).
Mark
From: menchett@pyramid.unr.edu (Peter J Menchetti)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Police Quest 3
Date: 17 Dec 92 00:55:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno  Department of Computer Science

Does anyone out there know how to get the pentagram in PQ3 to work? Y'know,
the one yer supposed to draw on the map where all the murders took place...
I drew it about 600,000 times and nuttin happened.
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: ronan@ug.cs.dal.ca (brian c ronan)
Subject: Kings Quest VI (Help please)
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:17:22 GMT

Small problem...what do I need to "see" the minotaur
coming...I have shield but I can't ready it...Do I
have to charm him....if so do I get ashes from the torch 
I lit when I fell down?.....And what do I do with that
damn Tapestry

				Brian
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: darkrat@cs.mcgill.ca (Christopher OLIVE)
Subject: Wiz7 question
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Distribution: rec.games.misc
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:58:30 GMT


   Hey all you out there that have fled intact fron the last level of the
tower of the Dane...


   On the ?Temple? map it says something about getting stones from the
encircling waters to sacrifice to something to get info on the structure
(sorry, it is not handy at the moment) and I was wondewring where the
<bleep> these encircling waters are?


    ----ka-RAT-e
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: ccdms@cc.newcastle.edu.au (Dougall Squair)
Subject: Monkey Island (Help???)
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:25:33 GMT

Does anyone know how to open the shops safe in monkey island.

Where do you get the combination?

Thanks

Dougall.
From: sidbury@sparrow.cs.uofs.edu (Dick Sidbury)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Galactix ver 1.3 (or 3.0) or something
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:35:30 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing Sciences


	I recently downloaded galactix.zip from ulowell and have messed 
around with it for a few days.  I have seen several messages from others
indicating several features that this version (ulowell's is 1.0) doesn't
have.  I also noted in some shareware catalogue that I got that they
were "selling" version 1.3 or 3.0 or something to do with a 3.  I archied
the world about galact and got no file later than ulowell's.  Is it available
via ftp? Or is there some way to save game or start up where you left off?

thanks

dick sidbury				internet: sidbury@jaguar.uofs.edu
computing sciences			bitnet: sidbury@scranton
u of scranton				phone: 717-941-6109
scranton,pa 18510-4664			fax: 717-941-4250
From: hardgrov@pilot.njin.net (Roy Hardgrove)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: WIZ 7 Help needed!!!
Date: 13 Dec 92 01:11:02 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Hi:

I am playing Crusaders of the Dark Savant and am having a bit of
trouble.  Most of my trouble seems to emanate from a lack of keys--or
at least the correct keys.  In the first town of New City (Old City)
there are two buildings that I can not figure out how to get into.
One of them has a Device that accepts a Key Card but when it is
inserted I am attacked.  The second problem is the T'RANG house.  How
do you get in there?  Also the museum has me stumped.  I have gotten
inside and have obtained the Rebus Egge (whatever that is) but can't
seem to figure anything else out.  Further there is a pesky weapons
dealer who won't let me explore his building.  How to I get past this?

Now onto Orkogre Castle.  How do you open the other locked doors.  I
have found the crown key, the armoury, and the place where the
magician was killed (also the gorilla) but I am stuck.  No keys, and I
believe I have looked and searched everywhere.  HELP!!!!

If someone out there is able to assist me with these problems, and any
other info you would like to part with, I would be grateful.


Thanks,

Roy F. Hardgrove
From: menchett@dws006.unr.edu (Peter J Menchetti)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Joe Montana Football
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:41:51 GMT
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno  Department of Computer Science


Does anyone have Joe Montana Football for IBM? Please repond to <menchett@cs.unr.edu> Peter Menchetti
From: menchett@pyramid.unr.edu (Peter J Menchetti)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Ultima Underworld Hint needed (or cheat)
Date: 17 Dec 92 08:00:25 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno  Department of Computer Science

I'm stuck on Underworld. I need the recipe for rotworm stew... I had it, but
I tossed it and just wrote down the recipe. This aggravates me- if I don't
find a way to make the stew or whatever, I have to start over!! Does ANYONE
know of a way to add items to your inventory? Is it absolutely necessary to
give the stew to that troll to finish the game?

If I'm still stuck, I'm going to ask someone to send me their saved game!
Hopefully someone around where I am- Fighter lvl 11 On level 4 and completed 
all above levels of abyss.
Xref: sparky rec.games.misc:18792 comp.sys.ibm.pc.games:26677
From: lee@tosspot.sv.com (Lee Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Harpoon add-ons and Lightspeed II wanted
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 12:23:39 EST
Organization: Ludus Associates, Incorporated.

Hi all.

       I'm looking for Lightspeed II and any add on sets for the
naval warfare simulator "Harpoon".  Both for the IBM, any size
diskette.

   I have a number of games that I would be willing to exchange for
them.  Needless to say, all docs and original diskettes included AND
wanted.  If the price is right, I'll even BUY them!


      Please email me directly, not via the newsgroup.


                               Thanks,
                                       Lee.

                    (lee@tosspot.sv.com)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc,comp.sys.mac.games
From: David.White@launchpad.unc.edu (David White)
Subject: Humor me and answer this general question, please!
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:31:22 GMT


Hi, All.  I've long been wise in the ways of IBM shareware, having the
benefit of living within local range of over 15 BBS's, plus FTP access
etc. etc.  Just 2 days ago, however, my mother bought an LCII and I
realized that I had no idea about what sort of shareware games were
available, and where I could get them.

So could someone kindly give me a list of some of the best shareware games
for Macs, and where I can get them?  I'm sure there's plenty of them, if
there's as many available as there are for the IBM, but which ones really
stand out?  (Like WOLF-3D would for the IBM, etc.)  Or is there a site
that has lots of really good stuff with file descriptions.

Please e-mail if possible, and hey, thanks for humoring me!


=-=-= David =-=-=
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        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
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Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: rbtg5094@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Robert B. Turkot)
Subject: Wizardry .. past and present
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:37:18 GMT

I remember playing Wizardry about 8-9 years ago.  Now I hear
everyone talking about Wiz 7, are there Wizardries 1-6, and are
they the same format as the original Wizardry?  i.e. six characters,
multi-layer dungeon, and graphics in the upper-left hand corner.

I'm interested in playing again.  Is it necessary to start at the
lower numbers (Wiz 1-6) ... 

Looking for answers...

Bob Turkot
rbtg5094@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: Wyvern@cup.portal.com (Jeanne Wyvern Harlan-Marriott)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: Starflight 3!!
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 09:36:58 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <changcs.723870772@aries>

   I also played and enjoyed both StarFlight I & II. The length was part
of the enjoyment. I wrote files for both games which, while not walkthrus,
did give pertinient information on where items could be found, locations
of special sites and objects, worm holes and suggested strategy. It was
a lot of work to put these files together, but well worth it. I'll be
looking forward to SF 3!                                Wyv
Wyvern@cup.portal.com
From: cac5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHRISTOPHER ANDREW CAPIZANO)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: montana footall bug????
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:55:57 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

every once in a while during a league game, i have been on defense and the
computer's team will line up in defense when it is still their ball.  when
this happens, the game freezes and i have to reboot my computer.

has this ever happen to anyone else?

is there any kind of fix for this?



thanks,
    cap
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: vspicer@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Subject: LHX available again?!
Originator: vspicer@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:39:09 GMT

i've read about the LHX attack helicopter simulator by Electronic
Arts on this group before. i had thought it was no longer in
production. yesterday i saw a bunch of them in shrink-wrapped boxes
at radio shack. $23.00 canadian, a bit steep perhaps for a 2 year
old game, but still an ok deal.

ok so the graphics are rather primative and landscape is sparse but
it's fast and an excellent chance to blast things (like camels and
people).

did Electronic Arts release any other flight simulators using this
sparse-but-fast graphics engine? 

thanks in advance
	vic spicer

------
vic spicer, recent PERL convert/ data systems,instrument electronics and
software person with the Time of Flight Mass Spec. Lab
at the University of Manitoba Dept. of Physics
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Saturday, 19 Dec 1992 05:00:28 CST
From: <U36940@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Games for Trade . . .

I have several Genesis carts for trade and some computer games for PC's:
Sega Genesis:
Faery Tale Adventure
Herzog Zwei
Sword of Vermillion
Tommy Lasorda Baseball

IBM PC's:
Eye of the Beholder 2
Martian Memorandum.
JET FIGHTER 1 ( SORRY NO BOX )

I AM LOOKING FOR CLOUDS OF XEEN, ULTIMA 7 OR FATE OF ATLANTIS.
If you are interested, please e-mail me. Thanx

                                         HB
P.S. I ALSO HAVE EMULASER A POSTSCRIPT PRINTER EMULATING PROGRAM WHICH I WOULD
LIKE TO TRADE FOR EITHER STACKER 3.0 OR SUPERSTOR PRO.
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