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From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Subject: ***Quality Star Trek Props***
Date:  6 Jan 93  4:47:09 GMT 
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

A friend of mine makes quality Star Trek props at extreamly reasonable
prices as compared to some of the other companies.

Some examples are a 3rd season Cobra head phaser for $15 to $30 as compared
to the $150+ of other places. Some of the things he is offering are:

Phasers :

   Dustbuster
   Cobra Head
   Type 1 (Small Hand Held)
      Coming Soon: Romulan Disruptor

Rank Pins :

    All TWoK Rank Pins at aprx $5 each

PADDS :
     
    Yes, you can now own your very own Personal Auxliary Data Display
    that will soon be carried by Star Land and several others for a much
    cheaper price. PADDS include the standard palm size, larger versions,
    and special engineering one available. Custom screens can be ordered at
    an additional cost.  Prices vary.


Knives L

     Mirror,Mirror style (metal)  $100
     Coming soon: Klingon Ceromonial Knife


And many other items are available: Call or write for a catalog or to
order. All orders by money order only. $1 for illustrated catalog.

 
              Dan Tibbot
              3474 30th Avenue NE
              Salem, OR 97303

              (503) 371-1175





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I am posting this for a friend, so please do not e-mail me, but rather call
him directly. Answering machine available...quantity discounts available.

Dave
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From: randib@alcatraz.gvg.tek.com (Randi Briggs)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: 1991 Starship Enterprise Ornament
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:42:43 GMT
Reply-To: randib@alcatraz.gvg.tek.com (Randi Briggs)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

Hi I'm a newbe to the group and I wanted to let anyone who was
interested that I have access to sell some 1991 starship Enterprise
christmas ornaments. The current Hallmark greenbook value is
$200.00 and that is the asking price. It's seems high until you
consider that the price will be even higher next christmas. They are
new and unopened. If anyone is interested respond to me directly and
I will get the information to you.
Xref: sparky rec.arts.startrek.fandom:1968 rec.arts.startrek.misc:13537
From: lawson%ssdvax.decnet@lbgwy.mdc.com (Jim Lawson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.fandom,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: New Phaser Toy
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.fandom,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Date: 12 Jan 1993 01:57:49 GMT
Organization: MDSSC-SSD
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I saw the shuttlecraft at Target the other day. I also noticed that Target
is selling the action figures for $4.99 still while Toys-R-Us has
upped the price a bit. The Shuttle also seemed to be a couple of dollars cheaper


--
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Opinions/Comments expressed here are my own and no one elses !!
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Subject: "Women of Trek" in Mpls area
From: javlar@gacvx1.gac.edu
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:54:36 -0600
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, Minnesota
Nntp-Posting-User: javlar

1.8.93

	Did anyone in the Mpls. area happen to tape the Entertainment Tonight
segment on the "Women of Star Trek?"  My VCR's timer got all screwed up and I
missed both the 6 o'clock and the late night showing.  I would love to get a
copy from anyone or even copy it myself, if it would be possible.  I'm leaving
for a four month trip to Japan on the 20th, so if one of you kind-hearted-souls
out there could help me out, I would appreciate it!!

	I'm afraid that I won't be around to check my E-mail so if you live in
the Twin Cities area give me a call after Sunday (my number is in the book :-)
) or drop me a note in the mail and maybe we can work something out.

Thanks,
Susan Almen
15001 Williston Lane
Minnetonka 55345-3674

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From: guy@ns.network.com (Guy D'Andrea)
Subject: ST:TNG Action figures and BIG shuttle.... what are they worth?
Organization: Network Systems Corporation
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 19:08:01 GMT

I was at the local store and picked up Troi, Pickard, Riker and Data figures,
(all numbered under 70,000).  I also saw a shuttle - Slightly smaller than a
loaf of bread - which was also numbered.  Anyway of knowing what these are
worth?  Or is it "much" too soon to know?(my guess...)  ;-)

I like the figures and was suprised to find a "Troi" figure since all I hear
is they are not readily available.  Oh, the back of the Shuttle's box showed
the Enterprise (new) and hand phaser (new) that are suppose to be available.
Oh yeah, the Shuttle make two sounds and lights up - the one sound is the
engines I think, the other is phasers.  Do shuttles have phasers????

-Guy

 guy@nsco.network.com, Guy Dandrea, Network Systems Corp., Mpls. MN 55428,  USA 
                        1-800-328-9108  Fax:(612)424-1736
From: jsblau@panix.com (Jonathan Blau)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: science fiction
Date: 6 Jan 93 21:38:04 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Distribution: usa
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

dsohl@spock.uucp (Daniel Sohl) writes:

>kpapai@rahul.net (Ken Papai) writes:
>>Doug Adams is not SF.  It's sarcasm.  Similar to Gulliver's Travels.

>Sarcasm??? I beg your pardon, but I do not believe it is sarcasm. Humor, yes.
>But where is the sarcasm? Maybe we have different definitions of sarcasm.
>What's your's?

Because of Ken's reference to Gulliver's Travels, I assumed he meant
*satire*, even though he wrote "sarcasm".  Gulliver's Travels has long
been recognized as satire, and the Adams series could be classified as
such, as well as being science fiction.

(Followups directed to r.a.s.misc)
-- 
Jonathan Blau        jsblau@panix.com      cmcl2!panix!jsblau
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From: annie@whoville.manassas.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: The Counselor in Uniform
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 12:34:39 GMT
Reply-To: kehleyr@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM, Federal Systems Company

In article <106107@bu.edu>, mcelroy@bu.edu (Carl Mackin) writes:
|> Larry E. Snyder (lesnyd@monsanto.com) wrote:
|> : In article <106065@bu.edu>, mcelroy@bu.edu (Carl Mackin) writes:
|> : > 
|> : > I do not think that the counselor likes to wear her uniform more often,
|> : > because, as a counselor, she must make most of the crew feel comfortable.
|> : > She wants them to feel like they are talking to a friend, and not just 
|> : > another counselor.  I don't know about you, but I would feel much more 
|> : > comfortable talking to a friend in ordinary clothing, rather than a 
|> : > friend in a uniform
|> : 
|> : I don't know about most folks, but I would be MUCH more comfortable talking
|> : about my problems with someone in a uniform than with someone who's breasts
|> : were hanging out for all the world to see...
|> 
|> 
|> If this person was a friend/co-worker, I would look beyond her breasts 
|> hanging out.  {Like I do at my place of employment now.}

I, personally, discuss my problems with friends that are "like me" in
the important ways (what those ways are I can't define).  So,
I personally, wouldn't discuss my problems with Troi because I
think that those outfits are slutty and I don't consider myself
a slut.  If the UNIFORM were slutty, then I'd be wearing one too,
and couldn't blame her personal choice.  But since she's not
wearing a standard uniform, it's her choice and I don't like
her choice.

So, maybe she needs to change clothes depending on who she's talking to? :-)

What I've seen of Marina Sirtis leads me to believe that SHE has
class, but the writers seem to have chosen not to give that to Deanna.

-- 
Brenda J. Molina                                     kehleyr@vnet.ibm.com
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From: "paul manson" <paul.manson@canrem.com>
Subject: wutv emissary sunday pm
Reply-To: "paul manson" <paul.manson@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:12:05 EST

Cross-posted to all Trek / TNG / DSN conferences

Notice to all Toronto - Buffalo Trekkers and Trekkies

Be aware WUTV is re-running
                 ^^^^^^^^^^
DSN Emissary Sunday, January 10, 1993 at 1:00 p.m.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Maybe there won't be the high pit squeal (open mike???) this time.

LL&P P&LL

               PAUL S. MANSON <=-CRS TORONTO CANADA-=>
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From: harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp)
Subject: Re: Personal difficulties with Odo (was Re: Odo in DS9 )]
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:01:34 GMT

stdnt171@whscdp.whs.edu (-=THE JESSTER=-) writes:

>How about the amoeba.  That's it!  Odo is a huge, intelegent, evolved amoeba!
>;*}

That's it!  His ancestors were also on that big, red spaceship and
they evolved over three million years to produce Odo.

What?  Oh.  Wrong series... ;)
-- 
-----------------Greg-Harp----------------harp@netcom.com------------------
  "I think I've reached that point / Where every word that you write /
  Of every blood dark sea / And every soul black night / And every dream
  you dream me in / And every perfect free from sin / And burning eyes /
  And hearts on fire / Are just the same old song" -- The Cure
From: mark.lindsay@the-matrix.com (Mark Lindsay) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Am I the only person who DIDN'T like DSN??
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:51:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The MATRIX BBS - Birmingham, AL - 205-323-2016
Reply-To: mark.lindsay@the-matrix.com (Mark Lindsay) 



Lots of lines for spoilers:





























If DS9 is supposed to be dramatic over TNG's blandness, I'll take the
blandness any day of the week!

When the show opened at Wolf 359 and Sisko's ship blew as they escaped,
DS9 got my attention.  Soon after, it faded.  The Bajoran female needs
severe acting lessons: in her opening scene she was banging the table
to show how "tough" she was supposed to be.  All it struck me as was
gross over-acting.

The station's problems:  these got old real fast.  How many tricks does
O'Brien have to pull out of his hat in one episode?  An occasional
technobabble solution is fine, but they could have explained what
shape the station was in without resorting to "Oh this system doesn't
work either, but we can pull off this miracle instead!"

The aliens:  How long can we be hit over the head with "linear
existence" plot.

About the only bit of drama I felt coming out of this show was the
first scene with Picard & Sisko.  When he said they met at W359,
Picard looked downright ill.  The rest of it reminded me, not of
Star Trek, but of 70's style Buck Rogers where a few techno-miracles
and bad acting save the day.

I think I'll go watch STTMP again.  V'ger had more character than these
people.

 * SLMR 2.1a * I doubt any God who inflicts pain for his own pleasure.
                                                                                                                          
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From: scherrer@mtxinu.COM (Deborah Scherrer)
Subject: Re: Best Episode?
Organization: mt Xinu, Berkeley, CA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 19:15:11 GMT

"The Inner Light", without a doubt one of the best shows of
either series.
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Mt Xinu, Inc.                               ..!uunet!mtxinu!scherrer
2560 Ninth Street
Berkeley, CA  94710                                     510-644-0146
From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Replacement for Picard
Date: 4 Jan 93 18:50:46 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <ewright.726169263@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
>In <jgasaway-010193123121@mac20-152.ncsa.uiuc.edu> jgasaway@ncsa.uiuc.edu (James Gasaway) writes:
>>The reason has been mentioned before, and it answers your question very
>>well.  The Enterprise is the flagship of the federation--it would be
>>ridiculous to put someone in command of this ship who has *never* been a
>>captain before.  

>It has also been mentioned that Riker *was* a Captain before.  Of the
>Enterprise, no less.  In Best of Both Worlds, he was promoted to the
>rank of Captain and give command (not "temporary command") of the Enterprise.

Gee, it sure looked like "temporary command" to me.  When Picard came back,
Riker was no longer in command.  Or are you using a different definition of
"temporary" than I am?

It seemed to me that Riker was put in command because there was no time (or
resources) to get someone more qualified out to the ship, given the threat of
the Borg.

>>Career-wise, Riker was stupid to refuse three offers for a
>>captain's position on other vessels.  

>Agreed.  It would be interesting to see the writers incorporate this
>into the show, with Riker getting passed over for command because he
>waited too long, getting increasingly anxious, etc.

Well, except that they haven't done a single thing with this in the 2+ years
since "The Best Of Both Worlds".  Shelby estimated at the end of BOBW that it
would take a year to build ships to replace the Wolf 359 losses.  It's been
longer than that, and it doesn't look like Riker was offered the command of
any of those vessels.  Nor does he seem to be crying in his beer about it.

I think the writers (as usual for TNG) just stuck that bit in BOBW for that
one story and have conveniently ignored it ever since.

-- 
Michael Rawdon				  rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department,  Madison, WI
( Now in the Boston, Massachusetts area! )

"Beauty... survives."
				- James T. Kirk, "That Which Survives"
From: cjaeger@bogart.uucp (Cecilia Jaeger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: DS9: Who played "Jennifer"?
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:47:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: ism:c:m/xo

Hi,
	As the subject says, I'd like to know who played Jennifer on
Deep Space Nine. She was Sisko's "deceased" wife.  I believe she is
an actress from "Days of Our Lives". But I missed her name in the 
credits. Did anyone get it?
		
			Thanks

			Ceci
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From: jmwojtal@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Wojo)
Subject: DS9 possible problems
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:13:35 GMT

After watching the first show, I came up with some things that could cause
problems down the road.



If the space station will pretty much stay in orbit, and the only threat for
them are the Cardacians, wouldn't this get old after a while?  I mean watching
every week the CCardacians trying to do something to them?  Don't get me wrong,
the Cardacians are as kniving as Romulans and Physiclly intimidating at
Klingons.  

In TNG, they at least travel around and have new stories to create.  I like the
cast, and I hope O'Brian gets a promotion seeing that he has more ability than
just operating a transporter.

I see it only lasting 2 seasons at least.


-- 
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Oakland University		      Start Hacking
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From: novanet@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The worms within...
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:06:33 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Yes it is. The Trill.
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From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Re: DS9 possible error (Spoilers)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:26:06 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1993Jan7.094608.429@leland.Stanford.EDU> trekker@leland.Stanford.EDU (Sanjai Dwivedula Rao) writes:
>In article <YfGp_AS00WBM44D3Ep@andrew.cmu.edu> zg03+@andrew.cmu.edu (Zafrir E. Gan) writes:
>>
>>   As we saw in the first few minutes the ship gets destroyed.  Clearly
>>that ship was going into battle with the Borg.  Why would a ship go into
>>battle with non-combatants such as the women and children.  When I say
>>women and children I mean non-personel.  Other than this I give the show
>>two tumbs up.
>
>
>I believe Cmmdr. Shelby comes up with idea to separate the saucer before going
>into battle in the _Best of Both Worlds_ (the episode from whose plot this 
>sequence is taken).  If I remember correctly, Commander Riker said that this
>should probably not be done, becuase the E might end up needing the extra 
>energy from the saucer section's impulse engines.  It might be the same in 
>this case.
>
>P.S. I'm not sure exactly who came up with the idea and who decided against
>it, so don't quote me on that.  However, I do know that this was the 
>reasoning behind it.
>
I believe that Riker and Shelby decided to separate the saucer because while
Picard was still human (before being Borgified) they had rejected that idea.
Since the Borg would then know of any plans to attack them prior to Picard's
capture, Riker and Shelby had to come up with something unexpected.

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From: cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows)
Subject: Re: 28 Re: Cardassia = Iraq
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 03:02:14 GMT

Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
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Keywords: 

In article <1993Jan10.184902.5065@news.acns.nwu.edu> mark-brodsky@nwu.edu
writes:
>	All this talk of which race in Star Trek = which nation on earth is  
>ridiculous. There is no exact correlation, and the writer's obviously us
  
>characteristics from many different peoples when they create an alien ra
e.  
>The TOS Klingons may have been based on how Americans perceived the Russ
ans  
>in the 60's, but they in no way were meant to be an accurate representat
on.  
>In the same way, Bajorans simply represent Bajorans, not Jews or  
>Palastinians or Native Americans or Kurds. They may employ certain  
>characteristics common to many oppressed peoples, but the politics of th
  
>Star Trek universe are entirely independent of our own.
>
>Romulans = Roman Empire
>
>--
>"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm n
t  
>sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
>-Richard Nixon 
>Mark E. Brodsky				E-mail: mark-brodsky@nwu.edu
>Northwestern University                 or  markb@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
>Evanston, Il.


True, it is ridiculous.  It is very ridiculous.  So are O'Brien's
pips, Troi's body parts, "STAR TREK IS CRAP WHY DON'T YOU TREKKIES
GET A LIFE," "save-the-trees-by-not-cutting-a-Christmas-tree," 
Garth Brooks, and, for that matter, just about anything Roger Car-
asso cross-posts to this group, along with misc.test.  That doesn't
stop half the people who read this group from replying to them, 
does it?  :-)

Seriously, though, this discussion is kinda interesting.  Not
only does it perhaps shed light on the motives of various alien
races by drawing parallels between modern-day Earth history and
future races, it conversely helps us understand what's happening
in the world today by comparing it to the TV show.  Besides, it's
kinda fun.  And there is a precedent--Leonard Nimoy says that he
based Star Trek VI on the collapse of the Soviet empire.  Therefore,
TOS Klingons = Soviet Union.

Mandatory smiley included for the humor impaired: :-)

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From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Thoughts on Deep Space 9
Date: 9 Jan 93 01:27:57 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

A few thoughts on last night's premiere of DSN:

*** SPOILERS ***

1. The music was disappointing.  I missed the usual french horn
flourish that appears in the opening credits of TOS and TNG.  The 
main theme has little or no appeal ... it's like it's not even there.

2. My wife said several times during the episode, "boy, this is
boring."   Not a good omen if the producers want high ratings.
The show really dragged in the middle. 

3. The show's characters have potential, but they need a lot
of work.  I suppose that we saw a transition in the Sisko character
during the show.  I hope so: he was really intolerable at the beginning
of the episode, especially in his rudeness to Picard.  Nrys is also
grating on the nerves.  We can't have every character act angry,
bitter, or like they're on mega-doses of caffeine.  I know that
this show appears to deal with psychology more than TNG, but who
wants to watch a bunch of neurotics?  (I can do that home :-) ...)
I do think, however, that the assortment of personalities does
have potential to be very interesting.

4. The dialogue was often melodramatic and downright stupid, especially
the exchanges between O'Brien and Nrys.  New script writer, please!!!!

5. I thought the scenes with Sisko in the worm hole were very
interesting and thought-provoking, once I understood the point.  I
do wish that I didn't have to wait so long to get to the point, 
however.

Overall, I think that the show has the makings of continuing the
grand ST tradition, but I hope that we see improvement over what
we saw last night.

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