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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:22:48 UT
From:         Terry Jeffery International Product Support Group
              <TGJ@UKHOUO.PRIME.COM>
Subject:      Stereolithography (was Re: Amiga Ads)

> sunday night.  They were talking about how other sci-fi shows (star trek)
> use model ship and that they wanted to do this cheaply and still have
> flexability so thay whan with computer graphics. They showed a scene with
>............
> katday1
> katday1fraser50@snypotva
> fraser50@snypotva

Hey they want to get into Stereolithography, Its a method of producing
a fully detailed model straight from computer graphics (Tessalation files).

At present the technology can create laminated paper or a range of plastics.

At least that way the graphics and model would totally match (and a lot
quicker to make).

Quite a few of our Customers use these for ergonomics etc. Really good!!

Regards

Terry

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               The score? I don't even know what game we're playing
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:12:15 -0700
From:         "Macey B. Taylor" <MACEYTAY@ARIZVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Yay?

Obviously, I agree with Phil Ware re any company dropping the Amiga as
an unprofitable market, especially the games market.  I am not a games
player, but I see the disappearance of Sierra in the Amiga world as a
very bad sign.  The lack of good educational programs (on a machine
that could well have been designed to be almost the ultimate machine
for most educational purposes) has always been a problem in getting
acceptance in schools -- there might not be any Apple Corp. today if
Apple hadn't done such a good job of marketing the II *and* getting
SW support for it.  If there aren't games to entice home buyers, the
user base will become primarily "niche" (and $$$$ niches, it seems). How
long will that last?

maceytay@ccit.arizona.edu
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Date:         Tue, 8 Dec 1992 18:35:45 -0500
From:         CAMACHO@ECSUC.CTSTATEU.EDU
Subject:      Good Press

Finally, some good press for the Amiga/Toaster. I picked up a copy of
a horror mag at the newstand that had a feature on the new Sci-fi TV
show. It talked alot about Computer Graphics, and how the Toaster was
used. There was even an article that talked alot about the Toaster.. Cool
Carlos C
p.s. Did anyone read the article on PCMCIA (sp?) cards in Byte??
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:12:21 EST
From:         "P. Larkin" <IQM259@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Problems with G++ (Sorry, I lost the original Subject)
              18 Dec 1992 08:22:00 CST from <96720919@UCS.UWPLATT.EDU>

  Well,  I managed to pick up DICE last night.  It seems to be suiting
my needs as a straight ANSI C compiler but I've encountered one problem.
I can't seem to use the 'stdprt' stream.  When DICE tries to compile it
I keep getting errors.  Keep in mind I know next to NOTHING about C
and I'm just learning this one..  But see if you can find a problem
with these few lines...

fprintf( stdprn, "%4d:t%s", line++, buffer );
}

fprintf( stdprn, "f");
fclose(fp);


  The compiler hangs on that first line and gives me the following
  error...


DC1: Error Line 37 "printit.c" 30:undefined symbol: stdprn

   Any ideas??

P.Larkin
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:18:54 +0100
From:         AUBERT@FRFLU51.BITNET
Subject:      Linkable libraries and GCC

To those of you who use GCC:
How that it handles libraries of objects (*.o)? I am not interested in runtime
or shareable (sp ?) libraries, but in libs used during link. I think I read
someone talking about ranlib, which is a UNIX cmd to handle them. Is it
included in the Amiga distib of GCC?
Thanks, Stef.
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:18:18 +0200
From:         PRIOLO@IPACRES.CRES.IT
Subject:      Where to get SW for amiga via FTP

Hi to All,

Well, I bought an amiga 600 and I'd like to get SW for it.
I have the connetion to the ftp world, I'd like to know something about nodes
where are Amiga's SW.

Can you tell me where is a pak compressor??


        Merry Chistmas, Max
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Date:         Sun, 13 Dec 1992 10:54:03 -0500
From:         "Steve H. - 6553" <HIRBYS@LAWRENCE.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: A3000 and Monitors

On Sun, 13 Dec 1992 07:48:39 LCL  bmurray@TBF.MUSICNET.UA.EDU said

>I have a new 3000.  I've been using it with a 1084s, but I must relinquish
>the monitor soon to the inheritors (kids) of my A-500.
>
>Any advice about what to get?  Cost is a significant factor.
>...However, I want to run Final Copy II in Hires Interlaced
>mode; obviously, the 1084s flickers lots.
>...
>"Dave" (DELANEYD) recently posted a good review of the PanaSync.  Any ideas
>about where to get one, and what it would cost?
>...

     I've had similar questions and have finally settled on the Panasonic
PanaSync C1381i.  It doesn't support overscan, so there are the black borders.
They're not important for my application, however, and the display is wonderful
either in interlace or regular high-res mode.  Price is right, too--$309 plus
shipping ($15) from Computability.

     I have no affilitation with either Panasonic or Computability.

++
Steve Hirby            Director of Development     hirbys@lawrence.edu
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:14:16 -0400
From:         MSG0642@RITVAX.BITNET
Subject:      A500 Tower OF Power

In regards to hooking up an A2000 keyboard to the A500's motherboard, could
someone who knows what they're doing tell me exactly which each pinout on the
A500 motherboard is and what the corresponding pins are on the cable of the
A2000 keyboard.  This seems like the most feasible solution.  I tried to get
the KB-Talker, but it seems that CoTronics Engineering has gone out of
business and or discontinued the product.

Thanks for the help so far.  It's been great!  All I need is the above
mentioned information and I know I can pull this off.

Incidentally, my tower case has a power LED.  Is it possible to hook this LED
to one of the keyboard pinouts on the 500's motherboard?

Know Logik
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Date:         Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:19:10 -0500
From:         ParaPsykotic <AGB001@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: A500 and interference

>        I've had this prob. ever since I got my amiga (500) and I've found
>        it is somehow connected with just about every chip on the motherboard
>        (a hard-drive interface and printer makes it worse!)  Some
>        success with covering the whole computer in aluminium foil (but a
>        tad impractical!).  The only solution is to put the whole
>        motherboard in a metal case (like the IBM's)... this cuts the
>        problem considerably.  Otherwise you will have to live with
>        angry neighbours (say its' CBs') and Commodores' obsession with
>        cutting corners (plastic cases!).
>
>        PS. The metal cover inside my A500 reduces the RI a bit, but not
>            much.
>
>        PPS. If you think TV is bad, try AM radio!

Hmmm. I didn't think that it would be that bad. I personally have a 1000
that I bought used and have no problem. In fact, the Amiga did better than
my 128 does with RF intereference.

And if Commodore cut 'corners' on the 500, I don't want to hear about the
600's... :)

I have a 128 though that put out a HUMONGEOUS amount of RF intereference
and it has all of the correct shielding and such. We have connected other
128 computers and they work fine on the TV, it is just mine. So it may
actually just be that the two of you have a bizarre item.

Also, if you have the Amiga connected to the TV, then you MAY want to
check and make sure that the Adapter (don't know the number) is not the
cause and not the TV. (IE turn on a TV without the Adapter plugged in).

Just my thoughts...

Tony Bossaller
ParaPsykotic (DSW)
AGB001@acad.drake.edu
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:27:00 EST
From:         MMKRUSE@OWUCOMCN.BITNET
Subject:      HELP FOR KERMIT ON A 1000..URGENT!!!!!!!

i have a 1000 and i am running DIGA! with kermit as one of the options
in the program. i am rtying to get files from my vax account and can't
seem to get it to work.... it will not receive anything in this mode..
it will receive in ASCII but that won't work either. when i run kermit
in this receive mode no blocks gett transfered and it just freezes up
with a passion.
does anyone have a program with kermit that lets you take files from a
vax system or does anyone know a program that would work.
email me directly for an answer.
i need to empty out my system really fast before the university does it.
thank you
MMKRUSE@cc.owu.edu
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:31:34 +0000
From:         "M. J. Cargill Psychology ext 4621" <mjcargil@DUX.DUNDEE.AC.UK>
Subject:      Commodore advertising on British Television!

Hi All!

I've been following the discussion on Commodore advertising these last few
days and last night I got a surprise.  COmmodore are advertising on UK T.V!

The advertisement shows a young teenager playing Another World on an A600 and
you see this guy, one of the baddies from the game itself kicking down his
bedroom door.  He then sees this teenager kicking ass on the game and promptly
dissolves into thin air with a surprised look on his face.

You then get the usual 'The Commodore Amiga 600' screen and a picture of the
A600 at the end.


Nice to see this on T.V in the UK!!


Mark Cargill

to see this on T.V in the UK!!


Mark Cargill

to see this on T.V in the UK!!


Mark Cargill

oops my mailer just screwed up!!Y
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 11:00:53 CET
From:         "Magnus Wissler... Amiga rules..." <NDB120@NOV.HB.SE>
Subject:      Re: A2024 Monitor

> From:          Steve Corder <SWC9387%TNTECH.BITNET@SEARN.SUNET.SE>
> Subject:       Re[2]: A2024 Monitor

> Will the A2024 monitor work with ANY software, or just Workbench 2.x and
> programs that support it?  (I.e. will the boot menu screen come up when I
> hold down both mouse buttons at boot time?  Can I play Lemmings or Star
> Control with it?  Will my favorite Euro demos work with it?)

In about 99.999% of the cases you will not be able to play games unless they
themselves open an A2024 screen or uses the Workbench for display. This is
due to a trick Workbench 2.04 plays with the hardware, it uses four sequential
screens at a refresh rate of 10 or 15 Hz vertical (you can choose refresh
rate for yourself). So its only useful if you're going to do some DTP or
plain programming or stuff like that, and perhaps not very useful for games
(or not at all, see above ;-).

> Steve Corder

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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 09:41:00 EDT
From:         BARNETTJ@SNYSYRV1.BITNET
Subject:      TERM 030 2.4

I have been using term 2.4 for for a few months now and am still
having trouble in getting the program to print the proper graphics
to the screen on communicating with specific programs on my schools
VAX/VMS system (MEDLINE in particular).  I am currently using TERM set
to emulate VT100, am using the IBM Raw font, with the translation table
for IBM8 (I believe).  I have no such problem using JRCOMM.  Is it possible
to use JRCOMM's translation table?  Does anyone have updated translation
tables (In the event my guess to the problem is correct!).

Thanks

Jordan

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From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Subject: Re: EYUP OZTURK
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 19:29:33 GMT

In <1992Dec20.062012.7341@ra.msstate.edu> jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce) writes:

>In article <I-AMIGA%92121708433440@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU> doleckma <DOLECKMA@SNYALFVA.BITNET> writes:
>>EYUP OZTURK, PLEASE READ THIS!!!
>>
>>I HAVE ASKED PRIVATELY AND NOW TWICE VIA THIS LIST.  PLEASE STOP POSTING IN
>>ALL CAPS!!!  ESPECIALLY IF YOU WANT ANYONE TO READ YOUR POSTS!!!  THANK YOU!!!
>>
>>And now back to the regular discussions...
>>
>>Mark Dolecki    doleckma@snyalfva       Computer Specialist - Alfred Tech
>>                doleckma@snyalfva.cc.alfredtech.edu

>   Eyup, are you using VLT ? If you are running a TTY emulator you will
>only get all-caps. A vt100 emulator such as vlt allows full upper and
>lower case letters. I use Vltjr on my 512 Kb system, just don't have
>'loadwb' as part of your startup-sequence and you will have more than
>enough free ram.

>      Just a guess, but maybe he can't use lower case,and yes I have 
>killed enough of his upper case letter posts just like tyhe rest of us.

>      JimP.

>    Happy Holidays all !

>-- 
>         Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science USM 
>             jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.
>                   Video. Cher: Love and Understanding.

I have seen an occasional lowercase word in his posts, so I *think* he may be
using the CAPS LOCK key on purpose and hits it accidently when typing an A which
gives ONE lowercase word before he resets it.  (just a theory from an observation)
 
I don't read his posts either, the UPPERCASE IS JUST TOO HARD ON THE EYES.  I only look at them to see if he has ever taken that CAPS LOCK key off, and so far
all I've seen is an occassional word or two in a post.

Crystal
  ;>
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:56:33 GMT
From:         Terry Jeffrey - SSG <terry@MARSTONS.PRIME.COM>
Subject:      RE modem list

The following may be of interest to others within the i-amiga list who
might be thinking of starting up a discussion group

Hi there David,

If you're starting a new list you might as well get it announced properly, this
 will also
get it into the interests group lists

Send some mail in the normal form for the lists file to:-

Marty Hoag <NU021172@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

In case you've never seen the lists, I've includded a typical entry so you can
 keep to the same style

INFO-MODEMS@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL

   Info-Modems is a discussion group of special interest to modem users.  The
   list is gatewayed to/from Usenet newsgroup comp.dcom.modems.

   Mail archives are kept on host WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL as TOPS20 mail files
   named yymm.n-TXT, where n starts with one and increments by one into
   another file as each file reached 150 disk pages.  To conserve disk space,
   all the mail files in the archive, except for the current year, are
   individually compressed.  The compressed files have the suffix -Z as part
   of the filetype field; they should be renamed to have the suffix .Z
   (uppercase Z) when transfered to a Unix system so the uncompress program
   will find them.  The current month's mail is still kept in
   MODEMS-ARCHIV.TXT.  The archives are stored in directory:
      PD2:<ARCHIVES.MODEMS>
   Archive files are available via ANONYMOUS FTP for those with TCP/IP access
   to the Internet.

   All requests to be added to or deleted from this list, problems, questions,
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   Coordinator: Keith Petersen <W8SDZ@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL>
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SUBscibe I-AMIGA magis ave
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Date:         Tue, 8 Dec 1992 11:31:01 -0500
From:         Herbert I Brown <hibrown@CS.ALBANY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: VAPORWARE DEC 92

        From: Jeremy Nelson <gujn@UNIWA.UWA.EDU.AU>

        EYUP OZTURK <C50777@TRMETU.BITNET> writes:

        >DAMN , BUT I CAN NOT SACRFICE MY OLE AMIGA FOR A PC. HAS ANY OF YOU
        >SEEN THE PC VERSION OF LEMMINGS? IT STINKS||||||| WELL THIS IS MY
        >DILEMMA. I HAVE TRAINED KARATE FOR 5 YEARS BUT MY BROTHER IS STILL
        >STRONGER THAN ME.
        >WHY IS LIFE SO HARD TO ME?

        It is the yelling.  Your probably not breathing properly.

        :)
        --
        Jem.  Jeremy Nelson.  gujn@uniwa.uwa.edu.au       :\  =>  :)

What was that? What did he say? I cannot hear him! Ask him to speak

            LOUDER!

Thanks,

Herb
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Subject:      hard drive parking

I have a Maxtar 120 meg harddrive w/ a GVP a500-HD8+ controller.  Do I need to
park it?
                                        Kevin
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From:         Arc Wave <arc@JUDY.INDSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      C++ and GCC ?

I think someone else had this same problem...I type at my shell prompt:

1> g++ helloworld.cpp
It says g++ is not an executable...??

Any ideas?

Just mail me direct at the below address.

Paul

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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 09:19:37 EST
From:         Daniel Roman <roman@TIX.TIMEPLEX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Silly Questions
              Dec 7, 92 4:07 am

Mattias Myrberg writes:
> >Programs will run, it is just that they will be accessing CHIP RAM, aka
> >SLOW RAM, so they will not be as fast.  I do have many programs that eat
> >fast RAM first, but subsequently, if there is no fast RAM left(like
> >Term2.2b leaves me with 32bytes free fast RAM), the programs will turn to
> >chip ram.  So, with 2MB chip, programs should run, but for optimal
> >performance, it would be wise to get some fast RAM in there too.
> >hope this helps, and please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
>
> Could anybody tell me why Commodore asked the f***ing stupid
> games-developers what to put in the A1200 (HD-floppy/2 Mb chip) ?
>
> As it is now we'll have two f***ing disk-formats when a low-end HD-Amiga
> comes along, and as stated by someone who's name I've forgotten
> "The games-developers will p***ed of by having two diff. formats"
>
> Why on earth not a HD-drive instead ?
> And what's the point with 2 Mb chip when the machine get's
> so f***ing slow without FAST-ram ?
>
> Games would benefit more from SPEED than 2 MB slick graphics/sound,
> and it's easier to get more chip-ram than to replace the internal drive,
> besides I don't think all games-developers will make their games Hard-Drive
> installable.
>
> Now, how do I put this 1.2 Meg traced-animation on a disk to take home
> and run on my A1200 ?  Easy, I don't...(assume splitting files isn't possible)

A little bitter aren't we?  Sounds like you ought to do your blood
pressure a favor and take a pressure pill!

Anyway, you're both slightly diluded as I'm sure others will point out
and Mattias you must admit you are ranting a bit.  First of all, 2 MB of
chip RAM is the most desirable to start of with because the utility of
chip RAM is much greater than so called fast ram (which is not always
faster but we'll get to that).  You can always use chip ram in place of
fast but not vice versa and you can after all expand the ram by adding
fast.  Second, chip ram in the majority of Amiga applications and games
is just as fast as chip ram if you are not talking the 32 bit variety
(is AGA 32 bit chip?).

As for the high density floppies, why would a software developer have to
support both?  They'll just support the low density as they have been
doing (after all, in the IBM world, there is still alot of software
which is distributed on 360K 5-1/4 floppies).  They just have to support
the lowest common denominator and a high density floppy is alot cheaper
for a base machine than a hard drive.

This may be tough for you to take but Commodore is in the market to make
money and not try to please each individual.  They've come back from
EXTREMELY tough times with part of the comeback in the middle of a
recession so they must be doing something right.
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