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From: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Easterbrook Opinions (was: Question about "T." in James . . .)
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:42:23 GMT
Reply-To: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation

In article <1992Nov18.010644.13078@midway.uchicago.edu>, 
thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
> I liked the line about "Horny Boar" much more.
> 
> Ted "or was it the movie with the snakes?" Frank

Eels, they were eels, I tell you!  (one of the few cases that will be found 
if you search on "eels and beer".)

For you folks who are wondering just what the heck we're talking about, the 
reference is to an obscenity case, US v. Guglielmi, 819 F.2d 451 (4th Cir., 
1986).  This is also the citation currently in Mark Eckenwiler's signature. 

The case contains fascinating descriptions of the films Mr. Guglielmi was in 
the basis of making.

You may not wish to read the case over lunch.

Terry Carroll - tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com - 408/992-2152
The opinions presented above are not necessarily those of a sound mind.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: When does FAQ get posted?
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 00:11:41 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand
Keywords: FAQ

In article <1992Nov22.024302.5479@microsoft.com> leecr@microsoft.com (Lee Crocker) writes:
>I have been watching this group for what I think is over a month now,
>and although I see references to the FAQ list, I have yet to see the
>FAQ list itself.  If it is to be released in the next few days, please
>ignore this post.  Otherwise, will some kind soul please either send
>it to me or tell me when it will be posted or where I can FTP it?

Tue Nov 3 1992 - Sorry to inject some FAQ's into this newsgroup.
Thu Nov 19 1992 - REPOST: FAQ List.

Well I guess you've just been unlucky.  Keep trying.  Otherwise try 
sending e-mail randomly to people called Terry.

Derek "Check out the Antipodean Antics section." Tearne


-- 
Derek Tearne.   --   derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz   --    Fujitsu New Zealand   -- 
Some of the more aware dinosaurs were worried about the environmental
consequences of an accident with the new Iridium enriched fusion reactor.  
"If it goes off only the cockroaches and mammals will survive..." they said.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.computers
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: CDs cheaper to make than cassettes?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:20:16 GMT

lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
: 
: designs (note, most of the cheap 386SX designs *solder* the CPU chip in!),
: but also in that Kingston board for use in upgrading a 286 machine to a
: 486 albeit only 16 megs of memory maximum.  (This 16-bit 486SX chip,
: the 386SX, and the 80286 all have the 16-meg limit due to the 16-bit memory
: buss.)

Why is it due to the buss? You can only directly select 64K locations with
a 16 bit word. Multiply that by 8 bits (for 8 bit words) and you come up
to less than 1/2 meg as the direct limit. Of course, by indirect addressing,
you could address 64,000 pages of about 1/2 meg each or about 32000Meg of
memory.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Aluminum cookware:  Recipe for disaster?
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 05:26:25 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <sbarnhar-171192153648@morril6t-19.micro.umn.edu> sbarnhar@mailbox.mail.umn.edu (Dr. Barnhart) writes:
>The other night as I finished steaming rice in my aluminum cookware, my
>roomie starts telling me about how bad aluminum cookware is.  It's putting
>aluminum oxide in the body, causing all kinds of health problems, the most
>significant of which is the increase in susceptibility to Alzheimer's
>disease. 

I heard that too, can't remember when though...

>She went on to say that anything with aluminum compounds in it
>(deoderant, too) that we put anywhere near something we may consume/absorb
>contributes to this.

Man goes to the doctors and says
"I'm losing my memory doctor"
"You consume a lot of beer don't you?" say's the doctor 
"Yes, you're right doctor - 20 cans a day." replies the man
"I think this is the cause of your problems" say the doctor,
"Well doctor, do you think I should switch to bottles..."

There was a whole rash of thefts of aluminium ranch sliders here recently.  
It came to an end when the thieves forget what they were stealing.

>While I'm used to dismissing most of the health paranoia of my roomies, I
>seem to have heard this one elsewhere and I want to know if I should maybe
>invest in some cookware made out of a different material.

Yeah, cast iron - that rust is really good for you.  
Or, Teflon<tm> - I wonder what fumes that gives off when burned?
Or, Copper bottom pans - aren't there some really nasty copper based poisons?
Or, Pewter (now that one really IS bad for you)

Seriously.  There has been a link between loss of memory and aluminium 
compounds.  This was partly due to a tragic incident in the U.K. where
aluminium based water purification agents were being used at a reservoir.
Accidentally a whole truck load was dumped in the reservoir instead of a 
tiny amount.  Very soon after some of the villagers exhibited loss of memory
symptoms.  The purification agent wasn't simple aluminium oxide but a much 
more complex aluminium salt.

There has been no link proven between aluminium cooking utensils and 
Alzheimers disease.  The aluminium compounds which may be produced by 
heating utensils are not the ones put into the water in the U.K. 

There are much more worrying things to think about (food additives, 
saturated fats, MSG(is it safe now or not)....).

Heck even potato(e)s cause cancer in rats...

If you must invest in new cookware out of paranoia I would suggest 
Ceramic or Pyrex.  These are just about as inert as you can get.
I used to have an extremely good ceramic frying pan as well as saucepans etc.

Derek "Now what was that middle name again" Tearne


-- 
Derek Tearne.   --   derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz   --    Fujitsu New Zealand   -- 
Some of the more aware dinosaurs were worried about the environmental
consequences of an accident with the new Iridium enriched fusion reactor.  
"If it goes off only the cockroaches and mammals will survive..." they said.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: furrfu??
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:20:46 GMT

: In article <2824@israel.nysernet.org> warren@nysernet.org writes:
: >Why is it that when you rot-13 a messages in rot-n that contains the
: >number n, it doesn't change to n+/-13?

It does, unless the number goes over 26 - that is why you can rot-13
a rot-13 message, and get the original text back.

A rot-13 message would be the same as a rot-29 message.

Bill
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From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.usage.english
Subject: Winston misquotes good like an urban legend should
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Date: 23 Nov 1992 10:19 PST
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.198
Keywords: Churchill Disraeli Gladstone inside jokes
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

This morning's San Francisco Chronicle has a review of a book that may 
be of interest to folklorists, language mavens, etc.  It's _Nice Guys 
Finish Seventh_ by Ralph Keyes and is put out by, if I've got the
latest publishing merger down pat, HarperDutton or somesuch.  Keyes
apparently traces a number of misquoted or misattributed sayings
back to their origins and analyzes how their twisted forms or false
attributions become part of the culture.

Joe "So when does the Latin translation for Latin America come out?" Chew
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Subject: Re: Courgettes (was Re: d
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 17:43:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.034909.12545@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jhh4889@ultb.isc.rit.edu
(J.H. Huebner) writes:
>>Also, helium and (I believe the other gas is) nitrogen are lighter than
>>the air we breathe, would go to the top of the room.  Just stay low in
>>the room if the magnet you're in quenches (vents all its gas at once).

>Normally, yes but if your talking about hydrogen or Nitrogen
>compressed into a liquid, no they are much heavier. Of course in open
>air they will change back fairly fast. Someone once threw a cup of
>liquid nitrogen at my feet. It was around long enough to hit the floor
>but evaporated on its way across the floor to my feet. Very spooky
>when you know what would happen if you were to close!

When they're vented from a superconducting magnet, they are in gaseous form.

Liquified gases are pretty cool, though you do have to be careful around
them.  I once saw a guy here dip a grape in it, pull the grape out and
tap it...the grape shattered, as if it was made of glass.

    don
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: CDs cheaper to make than cassettes?
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 03:31:35 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <1992Nov21.145321.28348@news.columbia.edu> lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>In article <By0tsJ.Bw@world.std.com> dp@world.std.com (Jeff DelPapa) writes:
>>>The previous poster muddled up the relevant point.
>>>
>>>Intel has confused what the notion of appending "SX" to the end of a
>>>prevailing design actually means.  It appeared that the poster fell into
>>>that trap as a result.
>>>
>>>In the 386 world, SX means 16-bit smaller version.
>>>
>>>In the 486 world, SX means co-processor braind-dead or missing.
>>>
>>>But there is this 16-bit 486 chip (non-Intel) that therefore can't be
>>>easily expressed in this notation.  486SX is what I'd like to call it, but
>>>that isn't quite right, so it's a 16-bit version of a 486SX is the best
>>>we can do.
>>>
>>
>>I think they call it SLC or some such - and that chip is refered to as
>>a 486, because it has the on-chip cache, it really is the 386sx. This
>>is allowing them to re-cycle the 386sx motherboards with a more
>>marketing acceptable 486 part number.
>
>Not true; the chip actually is a 486, and existent software will recognize
>it as such.  There are a small few instructions/modes that a 486 has that
>are missing on all 386's.  I have heard rumor of some forthcoming program
>that will reject running on 386's for valid reasons, but clearly this
>is in the minority.  Yet, this CPU chip will allow that (vaporware at this
>point) program to run on it (if 16 Megs is enough!) while the 386SX will be
>rejected.

From what I understand, NeXTSTEP for Intel is now in BETA.  The docs
explicitly say that it only runs on the 486.

It has been found that it will not run on the Cyrix 486.

The 16 bit Intel 486 is primarily meant for laptops.

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Puff the Magic Dragon (was Calvin/Hobbes...)
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:41:19 GMT
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Nov20.143233.6225@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> urban@sideshow.jpl.nasa.gov (Michael P Urban) writes:
>
>(removing sci.med from the Newsgroups:)
>
>	Mike Urban

Hey, it's your newsgroup, Mr. Urban.  Whatever you say, sir!

Ted "still waiting for my own alt.folklore group" Frank
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standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Oh Shit (was Re: Nonsparking tools)
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 22:06:11 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <rhamilt.722115562@husc10> rhamilt@husc10.harvard.edu (Rowan Hamilton) writes:
>scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator) writes:
>
>>In <1992Nov16.162628.18692@geovision.gvc.com>, Paul Tomblin writes:
>>>jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera) writes:
>>>
>>>>Joe "Please inform the widow that his last words were, 'Oh, s***!'" Chew
>>>
>>>I read somewhere - I think it was Aviation Week and Space Technology - that
>>>something like 90% of all crashes, the last words of the pilot on the black
>>>box are "Oh, Shit!"
>
> 	In the other 10% the last words are, "Looks like we screwed the 
>pooch."

In the remaining 1% it's

"What's a mountain goat doing way up here in the cl...."

Derek "Merde" Tearne



-- 
Derek Tearne.   --   derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz   --    Fujitsu New Zealand   -- 
Some of the more aware dinosaurs were worried about the environmental
consequences of an accident with the new Iridium enriched fusion reactor.  
"If it goes off only the cockroaches and mammals will survive..." they said.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: Aloysius B. Careen <Aloysius.B.Careen@stultifying.edu>
Subject: Re: Amusing pronouns, was
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A72DE86783020559@jesup316_16.cc.williams.edu>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 17 Nov 92 21: 08:07 GMT
Organization: Stultifying State College, Boston, MA
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:05:56 GMT


My personal favourite is DICK LICKHALTER !!!!! Yes, he really exists.
I've met him. Poor guy.

																																								-Aloysius
From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: 15 city tour?
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:01:30 GMT
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael

Jack "Neither Frost Nor Lost" Love writes:
>>
>>Incidentally, there is no such word as 'gullible' in Webster's.
>>
Even as we speak, my minions are compiling lists. When I ascend
to the throne as King of the World, I shall examine the roll
with a careful eye, and certain people will be dealt with.
Yes. And you know who you are and why we have taken note.
And not since the expectoration of the Moldronai will the
hacking and the coughing be so persistent and productive.
-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> My bad.     
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From: dxs@Unify.Com (Dale R. Shaver)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc,alt.cascade
Subject: Re: Question about "T." in James T. Kirk !!!!!! (As seen on TV)
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:26:57 GMT
Organization: Unify Corporation, Sacramento, California

In article <1992Nov14.195251.1198@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.071852.26520@mr.med.ge.com> hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987) writes:
>>Roy (vcsc458@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu) wrote:
>>: In article <1992Nov10.212428.100792@watson.ibm.com> rrogers@watson.ibm.com (Ryan Rogers) writes:
>>: >In <1992Nov10.203818.14246@dsd.es.com> pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz) writes:
>>: >>In article <BxIEtG.AEs@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, miles@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Derick) writes:
>>: >>>In article <1992Nov10.051247.26359@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>: >>>>In article <BxGwLn.HEo@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> bwbrock@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu (Benjamin Warre Brock) writes:
>>: >>>>>Tiberius
>>: >>>>Terry
>>: >>>Timmy
>>: >>Testicular
>>: >Tasteless
>>: Transvestyte
>>Taliesin
>Three-Sided
Testosterone

-- 
--
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Trick for auto entry in the news.
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 11:14:47 GMT

csuley@cs.cornell.edu (Christopher Suley) writes:
: >
: >A local news story said that thiefs had been exploiting
: >a new trick to unlock cars.
: >
: >The claim was that one could take a tennis ball, cut a 
: >hole about the size of a quarter in it.  Place the hole
: >flush with the door over the keyway.  Then give the ball
: >a sharp blow, while at the same time pulling on the door
: >handle.  Up pops the lock. Sort of a pneumatic pick gun.  
: >
: >I've not had a chance to try this yet.  Has anyone
: >else heard of this?  Anyone tried it successfully?
: >
: >mark
: 
: I'd like to see a.f.u's opinion of this.

I made such a posting on the locksmithing group. It is an
UL. It would have to line up all the pins and wafers, plus
turn the plug in the lock. That is asking for a lot from
a puff of air.

I think that whoever originated this "idea" thinks that
the lock button is pneumatically controlled through the
door lock.

Bill
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From: mcramm@dct.ac.uk (McRamm)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Jackpotting ATM's for $$$$
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:53:42 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1992Nov13.204632.21152@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>, bobv@spike.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Bob von Buelow) writes:
> In article <12NOV199212304684@csa3.lbl.gov> jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera) writes:
>>>I heard a MUCH simplier and elegant solution. Find two ATMs set into a wall
                                                      ^^ Why two? isn't this a
mite greedy ?

>>>next to each other. Take a forklift (at NIGHT), ram it under the ATMs and lift
>>>them out. Place on a truck and _scram_...
>>
>>As usual, American criminals are at least a year ahead of the competition.
>>In a word (three words, actually):  It's Been Done.
> 
> Right.  This is fast becoming a legitimate sport it seems.  It has happened
> twice within the last year in my smallish home town of Apple Valley.  Both
> times with stolen forklifts (wouldn't want to damage your own equipment
> would you?).  Both time the banks looked like they'd been bombed.  Net
> proceeds to criminals = $0.00.

Someone tried that earlier this year in Dundee. They pulled the ATM out of the
wall of the bank and loaded it onto a flatbed truck. Unfortunately, about a
mile down the road they took a corner a little too fast and the ATM fell off
into the middle of the road. Police recovered it the next day. Guess those
machines must be buit pretty well. (Better 'n the walls!).

Another favourite in this country seems to have been to pick on one Building
Society (kinda like a Savings 'n' Loan?) who built their ATM's into glass
fronts. They lost about 5 in the space of 2 weeks................

> 
> --
> Bob von Buelow             Mars Observer Planning and Sequencing Element
> bobv@spike.jpl.nasa.gov          - standard disclaimers apply -
-- 
 Angus M. Marshall, MCRAMM@UK.AC.DCT,amarshal@uk.ac.dund.mcs, (+44 382) 308600
Then I was gone, and in my place - a cat with green eyes.

    )     <-- Cheshire Smiley?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com (Bruce Tindall)
Subject: Re: Media rantings
Originator: sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:26:19 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <1992Nov18.141156.28013@Arco.COM>, dbsjwb@Edm.Arco.COM writes:
>reporter said, completely seriously, that the woman claims to have
>been with 250,000 men in the course of her 20 year career.

This was almost certainly a reference to the upcoming TV dramatization
of the Wuornos (sp?) case from Florida.  A newspaper preview of the 
show in the Raleigh newspaper also contained the 250,000 number.  

Either the press release from the TV network contained a misprint,
and various reporters copied it, or else Wuornos actually made the 
claim and different reporters are quoting it from whoever originally 
quoted her.  Or both.

Reminds me of when Joanne Little (the celebrated North Carolina
prisoner who killed a jail guard who was trying to rape her), after
her release, made a speech claiming that there were 750,000 political
prisoners in the U.S.  A newspaper pointed out that, at the time,
there were barely that many prisoners of any kind in the U.S.

Bruce "I was told we wouldn't have to do arithmetic in 
Journalism school" Tindall
-- 
Bruce Tindall, Core Testing Mgr., SAS Institute Inc., Cary, N.C. 27513
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: 1950's Darryle, damnit.
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 02:47:38 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <BxryDq.3wK@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta) writes:
>In article <1992Nov15.185443.11261@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>In article <Bxrs4z.IEB@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta) writes:
>>>In article <97719@netnews.upenn.edu> weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener) writes:
>>>>In article <9652@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, pmmst8+@pitt (Paul M Mweene) writes:
>>>
>>>>>Is such a difficult thing to infect 30 or 40 year old serum with any virus?
>>>>
>>>>The British sailor who died ~1962 had symptoms that we would today
>>>>recognize as AIDS.
>>>
>>>There is a simple explaination to all this...this sailor had AIDS-like 
>>>symptoms without the HIV virus. So Mweenes hypothesis still holds.

If we are talking of AIDS like _symptoms_ without proof of HIV, research is 
tending towards the early 1900's for earliest contenders.

>>Except that the sailor (and the St. Louis male prostitute from three years
>>later, etc.) did have the HIV virus.  
>
>This comes back to Mweene's claims that the HIV virus was ACTUALLY injected
>into those samples at a much later date...a vicious circle, ain't it?
>
>>Why is it that y'all are trying so hard to believe something that's so
>>blatantly not true?
>
>Your naivety amazes me!
 
One wonders if it is possible to _inject_ HIV into a 30 year old non
living sample and expect it to insert itself into the genetic material 
on cue.  If HIV can get into dead material who knows what it will do next..


Derek "Plastic eating viruses" Tearne



-- 
Derek Tearne.   --   derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz   --    Fujitsu New Zealand   -- 
Some of the more aware dinosaurs were worried about the environmental
consequences of an accident with the new Iridium enriched fusion reactor.  
"If it goes off only the cockroaches and mammals will survive..." they said.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: michaet@hubcap.clemson.edu (michael dale townsend)
Subject: Re: Soldiers breaking wind (Was Re: Soldiers breaking step across bridge)
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:30:30 GMT

billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>The thing that all these people forget is - long before enugh of a wave could
>build up that would affect the bridge, the soldiers would lose their footing
>and would not be able to maintain the pace. As such, the marching is a self
>damping function and could not damage the bridge.

>Bill

My experience with this was in the marching band.  One of the bowl games
had the parade route go over a suspension bridge.  We had about 250
marchers, and the tempo of our steps was about 150 stomps/minute.  The
bridge did start oscillating, and the vertical displacement was about
1/3 of a meter.  By the time the woodwinds at the back of the line went
across, they were being tossed up around worse than we were.  Since they
were half-drunk woodwind players, they did lose their footing and it
helped dampen the bridge.  We were all thinking of that Tocama Narrows
Bridge film that we had seen in physics.  All of the mechanical and
civil engineers in the band were talking about elasticity of steel and
all that.  It was pretty scary.  The bridge was the four lane bridge
with steel grates in the center that went over some body of water.  I
can't even remember the town now, but it was the Gator Bowl, so I think
it was Daytona.  If any of you are from Daytona, it was the big blue
bridge.  I can't imagine who would plan a parade route over a bridge. .
. .
Michael Townsend

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