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From: tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen)
Subject: Re: Mazda Protege: Problem with engaging 1st and rev. gear.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 08:23:26 GMT

In article <SHANTANU.92Nov6172113@poseidon.oakhill.uucp> shantanu@poseidon.oakhill.uucp (Shantanu Ganguly) writes:
>If the shifter refuses to go into first or reverse, put it in neutral,
>and lift the clutch. Then press the clutch again, and you will
>be able to shift much more easily. 

this works for getting it into first.  but reverse is fairly
stubborn, and there's a fair chance of getting the grinding noise
with the approach you described.  it's pretty much become a habit
for me to shift into third or fourth before going for first/reverse.
haven't been having many problems with getting first, but reverse
still hangs a lot no matter what i do.  maybe i should get some
of that redline MTL everybody keeps talking about.  how much does
it cost?
-teddy
From: rrusk@ssd.csd.harris.com (Bob Rusk)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Top 20 Selling Vehicles of 1992
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:58:13 GMT
	<1992Nov5.233244.18366@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Reply-To: rrusk@ssd.csd.harris.com
Organization: Harris Computer Systems Division

On Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:32:44 GMT, fengxi@prancer.eche.ualberta.ca (Fengxi Zhou) wrote:
>hsd@swl.msd.ray.com (HERBERT DASILVA) writes:
>: hsd@swl.msd.ray.com (HERBERT DASILVA) writes:
>: 
>: >  3. Honda Accord		This is the list of top 20 sales of
>: >  6. Toyota Camry		The Globe lists their source as
>: > 11. Honda Civic
>: > 14. Toyota Corolla
>: > 18. Toyota pickup
>: 
>: >  4 out of the 20 are Japanese imports, the others are domestic.
>: 
>: >	Herb "Mopar Maniac" DaSilva
>: 
>:   OK, OK, before the beatings begin, it's obvious that there are 5, not 4
>:   Japanese imports in the top 20, so just save the flames, OK?  :-)
>: 
>: 	Herb "Mopar Maniac" DaSilva

>And the chances are that the four japanese cars are assembled in US or Canada.
>I am not sure about Toyota pickups.

I was looking at new '92 Toyota pickups a few months ago.  The shortbed 4x2's
were made in USA.  The stretch-cab 4x2's were made in Japan.  I don't know
about the 4x4's.

--
--
 Bob Rusk
 rrusk@ssd.csd.harris.com
 My thoughts, probably not Harris'.
From: copernicus@digund.uucp (Copernicus) 
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Eclipse Mailing List
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:39:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Digital Underground - PRIVATE
Reply-To: copernicus@digund.uucp (Copernicus) 


Does the talon/eclipse/laser mailing list still exist?  If so...point me
to it..

Or does anyone know if any of the old archives from it are available 
anywhere?

Chris
 
                                                                                    
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: mperlman@nyx.cs.du.edu (Marshal "Airborne" Perlman)
Subject: Re: INFINITI vs BMW
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 14:52:26 GMT

mazz+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joseph D. Mazza) writes:

>Since I started this thread last week we've heard a lot of opinions on
>the subject.  But does anyone out there actually OWN a Q45?

>If so, let's hear from you!

I had use of one this whole summer, and IT is muchnicer then the BMW...sure it isn't made in 
Duetschland...but it is a much better car...and if you are implying thatno one owns a Q, you are
wrong, in California (back home) there are TONS and TONS of them...it is a superior car.
--
 Marshal Perlman <> Florida Institute of Technology <> (407) 768-8000 x 8435
                 Private Pilot - Airplane Single-Engine Land
From: Brian.E.Hannon@dartmouth.edu (Brian E. Hannon)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Hold that belt! (was Re: BETTER? 92 Camaro or 92 Iroc 
 Daytona?????)
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:07:49 GMT
 <1992Nov05.171558.22995@zds-oem.zds.com> 
 <5NOV199212411984@csa3.lbl.gov>  
 <1992Nov06.005140.27510@zds-oem.zds.com>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1992Nov06.005140.27510@zds-oem.zds.com>
easton@zds-oem.zds.com (Jeff Easton) writes:

>   Nope, my '93 Pontiac catalog still shows the 4 door Grand Prix with
> the belts in the doors.  I'd assume the Lumina is the same.  I cant say
> for the Corsica as I personally wouldnt be caught dead in one. :-)

That might be the only way you'd be caught (or found) in one.
;-)
Xref: sparky rec.autos:26016 rec.autos.tech:15087
From: yogi@coombs.anu.edu.au (Michael Hanslip)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: Underdrive pullys - Any experiences?
Date: 7 Nov 92 01:30:50 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2

hartzfel@cps.msu.edu (Michael Hartzfeld) writes:

>Hey folks,

>Has anybody installed underdrive pullys?  Did they make much of a 
>performance improvement?  Are they worth the hassle?  Are they worth
>the money?  How did your battery life hold up?  I am considering them
>for a weekend-toy kind of car, so daily use would not be a concern.
>Any comments would be appreciated.  Thanks.

After trying them in an SCCA Solo ][ ESP Mustang for a while, I 
gave up. It was always having to be push started and it wouldn't idle to
well (it never idled to well anyway) and the battery died irrecoverably once.
I don't think it was worth the hassle. This car was only used for competing, BTW

Michael Hanslip.
--
Michael Hanslip
yogi@coombs.anu.edu.au  -  mdh410@csc.anu.edu.au
From: rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com (Bob Haar)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Corvette's Passive Keyless Entry (PKE)
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:10:15 GMT
Reply-To: rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com
Organization: G.M. Research and Environmental Staff

In article uucp@wupost.wustl.edu, mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Mike S.) writes:
|>>PKE is "passive" in the sense that you don't have to push a button
|>>to lock/unlock the car. But the remote (the fob) contains a battery
|>>and transmits a signal indepently of whether or not it is in range of
|>>the car. The fob goes to sleep when there is no motion in order to
|>>conserve battery life.
|>
|>There has to be something more than this, or else the fob's batteries
|>would die the first time you walked around a mall or shopping center.
|>
No. The battery is expected to last three to five years being carried around
in a purse of in a pocket.

|>I would think the car has to actively send out some sort of 'activation'
|>signal (since the car presumably has much more battery power), which
|>turns on the fob, which in turn responds with the 'unlock' code.

no.

|>
|>And what #$*% does fob mean?!??

" a short strap, ribbon or chain attached to esp. a pocket watch, or
an ornament attached to a fob chain."



---
	Robert Haar               InterNet : rhaar@gmr.com 
	Computer Science Dept., G.M. Research and Environmental Staff
DISCLAIMER: Unless indicated otherwise, everything in this note is
personal opinion, not an official statement of General Motors Corp.


Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: kbr@cbnews.cb.att.com (kenneth.b.reber)
Subject: Re: car keys
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:33:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov2.151643.14406@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> rjwade@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J. Wade) writes:
>so would everyone be happy if all cars came with 2 keys, 1 that fits every
>lock on the car, and the other fits ignition and door only(valet key).
>and the keys would be cut on both sides so there is no upside-down/rightside-
>up argument?????
>   


My 1929 Cord has 8 keys -

	* the door
	* the glove box door
	* the golf club bag door
	* the side mount tire locks
	* the ignition
	* the tool box
	* the trunk
	* key for each of the pieces of the fitted luggage in the trunk

My 1915 Caddy has one key for everything - ignition, spare tires, tool box.

Ken
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 5 Nov 1992 21:39:36 MST
From: Bob Kaneshige <KHAAV@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Corvette's Passive Keyless Entry (PKE)

In article <1992Nov3.174202.5153@ncube.com>, bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe) says:
>
>If you leave the key in the ignition and try to manually lock the doors,
>they will automatically unlock.  If you lock your keys and transmitter
>in the car by mistake and they are not in the ignition, you simply shake
>the car and the transmitter will "wake up" (it goes into a sleep mode
>after 25 seconds) and unlock the doors.

Just imagine this, you leave your keys upon the dash or anywhere else that is
visible from the outside....all anyone have to do is to shake the car.......
presto!!...instant missing vette when you return  :-)  Can you imagine seeing
potential vette thieves shaking all the '93s they see; they'll either set off
the non-OEM alarm, the doors will unlock, or nothing will happen.  A great
idea at first, but I'd rather disable the PKE system and manually open or close
the door and arm the security system myself.

  Bob
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: minor@rtsg.mot.com (Kevin Minor)
Subject: Re: Exploding rear windshield
Keywords: shattered
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:21:34 GMT

|>brazeal@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (susan.k.brazeal) writes:

|>>As I was driving home last night, I heard a loud pop, glimpsed a flash of
|>>light in the rear view mirror and saw that the rear windshield had filled
|>>with cracks, no more than a quarter inch apart.  As soon as I drove over
|>>a bump large enough to bounce the car a little, the windshield began falling
|>>out in pieces.

|>>Car:  1989 Chevy Cavalier (warranty expired 7 months ago, of course)

|>>Related info:  rear defogger had been on about 10 minutes.

|>>Theory: something overheated and the defogger shorted out.

|>>BUT THIS STILL SHOULDN'T CAUSE THE WINDSHIELD TO SHATTER!

|>>Anyone ever heard of anything like this happening before?

Yes, it happened to my wife.
She was driving a Hyundai Excel Hatchback down the highway and suddenly 
the rear window just fell in. She heard nothing hit it or anything.
It appeared to just fall in. Unfortunately, I don't have any other info
for you to compare (i.e. defroster status, etc...)
-- 
	/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\
	|	Kevin Minor	UUCP: ...uunet!mcdchg!motcid!minor	|
	|			Mail: minor@rtsg.mot.com		|
	\~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~/
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: axc@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (alex.cornella)
Subject: Re: FORD Rangers
Keywords: 1990 problems with AC, seats, windshield
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:15:29 GMT

 
I have a 1990 Ranger 4WD, 4.0 liter engine with extended
cab.  I bought it new in June '90 and it now has 49,000
miles.  I got 1 season out of the AC and after several
trips to various dealers and service stations, I'm now
told by the Ford dealer it needs "O" rings that will
set me back $190.  The padding in the driver's seat
has shifted and a spring is pushing through right under
my right leg.  Also, the windshield is badly pitted, like
there are tiny bubbles between the layers of glass, which
is very distracting in bright sunlight.  I'm now working
with the dealer to see if Ford will correct these problems
even though they are not covered under warranty.  (I'd
be curious to hear from anyone else who has has similiar
problems with Ford trucks.)  Most of the mileage has
been highway miles commuting to work.  On week ends, it
gets light duty hauling a little firewood or hay.  Other
than the above, no problems have surfaced, but I wish I
had given more consideration to a Toyota before getting
the Ranger.

--Alex Cornella
From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Corvette Turbo
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:13:41 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Nov7.070750.10546@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> ctoth@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher M Toth) writes:
>
>	Do Corvette's come in Turbo form? 
    
    Yes.

>I was wondering if I could get a Corvette Turbo. 
    
    No, you're too young.  And much too unfamiliar with Corvettes to
    be allowed one with a Turbo.  >:-)

>Have they ever come with a Turbo?
>
    Factory or otherwise?  

    HINT.  If you see the name "Calloway" on a Corvette, don't mess
	   with it.
From: garyw@hplsla.hp.com (Gary Wong)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1992 17:46:53 GMT
Subject: Re: What's the deal with Chrysler and Mitsuibishi
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
Newsgroups: rec.autos


>  The Diamond Star cars are assembled in the U.S. from parts made in Japan,
>  like some Hondas and Toyotas.  Starting in '94, the Diamond Star cars
>  will have Chrysler built engines and transmissions in them.

According to an "Automobile Magazine" article, a Diamond Star car gets 60% of
its parts from US suppliers.

Gary Wong
From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Formula (was Re: BETTER? 92 Camaro...)
Date: 8 Nov 1992 22:00:29 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, easton@zds-oem.zds.com (Jeff Easton) says:

>In article <1992Nov7.005416.1675@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:
>>In article 1dcj7lINNpop@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>
>>>HUH??? a FORMULA w/o an auto?? never laid eyes on one..i was thinkin
>>>that they were never actaully made...WOW..i'd love to drive this once.
>>
>>That's right! She's a rare one in the States, but most of the ones 
>>that were imported to Canada came with a 5-Speed. My '87 also has the
>>five speed with a stiff hydraulic clutch. The newer ones are easier
>>on the left leg, but I'm used to mine. The original owner of my car also
>>equipped it with(among other cool junk) disc brakes all around, 16" 
>>wheels, 245/50/VR 16 Gatorbacks, 5.0 Litre TPI V8(the manual tranny was
>>not available with the 5.7), Full analog instruments, top of the line 
>>Delco stereo, T-tops, cruise, PWR locks and windows(no PWR mirror or
>>seat), performance suspension, etc,etc,etc(!)
>
>  According to the Pontiac catalogs, the only engine not available 
>with the stick was the 5.7L TPI (i.e. any Formula 350)

yeah..that is what the magazines and the catalogs claim..but what i see
in the showrooms and on the street had me thinking that they were never
made!..that is what i meant by that..


>
>  Also, the 4 wheel disc's were standard on any Firebird with a TPI
>engine (5.0L or 5.7L).  It looks like in '89 they started putting
>bigger discs on the rear, along with dual exhaust past the cat's.
>It was good for another 10 hp.
>
>  Was positraction standard on TPI equipped Firebirds as well?
>
>>Are you foaming at the mouth yet? :)
>
>  Who, me? :-)
>
>>Torque Monger
>
>
>-- 
>  ___  ___    Jeff Easton             easton@zds-oem.zds.com
> (__  (__     Zenith Data Systems     j.easton@mi04.zds.com
> ___) ___)    Saint Joseph, Mich.     easton@andrews.edu
>Monte Carlo   Z-LS/20 - Choice of a quiet generation
>
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: bqueiser@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Brian J Queiser)
Subject: Re: Analog Brake Light
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:11:45 GMT

(Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>(Scooby Doo) says:
>>(Dean Frazier) writes:

>>>Has anyone seen or heard of a brake light system that indicates the degree
>>>of deceleration of the vehicle?   Maybe a different number of lights, or
>>>increasing light intensity, or flashing lights, etc.
>>>
>>>It sure would be nice to have such a device during rush-hour traffic!
>>>
>>>If you've heard of anything like this please e-mail me (or post if you
>>>think others would be interested...)

>>I havent heard of a analog brake light system, but over here in Britain
>>whenever there is a major traffic jam on the motorway (causing braking
>>from 70 mph to crawling within a short time) people have developed
>>the practice of flashing their hazard warning lights to indicate
>>a problem ahead to those drivers behind. I think it works quite well
>>(our hazard lights are amber of course). I think maybe flashing
>>brakelights (flashing more rapidly for harsher braking?) would
>>probably be a good idea.
>>
>>Next person please.

>why not go with the LED type thing..maybe in all three lights, or just
>in the third one(some of these already use LED's, but some other makers
>are starting to put LED into all three..but more have them in the 3rd light
>space)..at any rate..then just make the next row light up for harder pressure
>..seems not to hard to do..though i havent' really thought it out..just
>a presure sensor similar to that used on an oil pressure guage and each jump
>in pressure will cause a subseguent row to light up..only the hard part would
>be telling all of the drivers that this is what "those STUPID" looking lights
>are supposed to be telling them....

How about connecting the brake light system to the ABS somehow.  When
ABS comes on, the brakes flash 10 times per sec.  :^)  Or, how about putting
some sonar-type device on the front of every car that sends out a signal
to determine the acceleration or deceleration rate of the vehicle in front.
Then, if the device senses a deceleration rate greater than, oh, I don't
know, then 110 dB horns aimed at the drivers head will signal him to step
on it hard.  :^)

How will we ever survive without such technology?  Ejection seats aren't
far away you know; mandated in CA by 1997.  :^]

Regards,

Brian

bqueiser@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
------------------------------------------------------------------------
I am the engineer, I can choose K.
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Department of Engineering Mechanics
Ohio State University
Columbus, OH
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: jjn@cbjjn.cb.att.com (Jeff Nappi)
Subject: Re: Rotary vs. Piston Engines
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:29:08 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.014944.26797@walter.bellcore.com>, ramiro@rrunner.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Ramiro Reinoso) writes:
|> In article <184132@pyramid.pyramid.com>, lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell) writes:
|> |> In article <Bx7KG5.90t@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> mshar@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Mshar) writes:
|> |> >In article <92309.094205KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu> Karl Nordstrom <KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
|> |> >>mshar@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Mshar) says:
|> |> >>
|> |> >>>Someone recently asked why rotary engines are not used very often,
|> |> >>>especially when you consider that they tend to be more efficient than
|> |> >>>piston/cylinder engines.
|> 
|> Rotrary engines might be used more ofter in the future.
|> Rotary engines may be the answer to future hydrogen engines.
|> I saw a display at the last New York auto show of a hydrogen tank
|> for cars.  They have demonstrated that rotary engines are more
|> suitable for hydrogen fuel because  the combustion chamber section
|> was not the same as the intake chamber section.  The rotor takes
|> the mix and move it to another section to be burnt.  This results
|> in a cooler intake chamber that prevents hydrogen from exploding.
|> 
|> And as far as emissions, when you burn hydrogen you end up with
|> water vapor (very environmentally friendly).
|> 
|> -- 
|> Ramiro Reinoso, 444 Hoes Lane, Office RRC-1E-226. Piscataway, NJ 08854
|> (PHONE) (908) 699-5021  
|> (INTERNET) ramiro@ctt.bellcore.com
|> (UUCP)  ...!bellcore!ctt!ramiro

I believe this project is a joint effort between Mazda and Mercedes. The 
rotary engine lends itself very well to the hydrogen effort, infact the
least of there problems is the engine. I read the biggest task facing
the team is the 610lb storage tank they need for the hydrogen fuel, besides
being so big it only has about 124 miles fuel capcity before a recharge is 
needed.  I wonder what kind of power this engine would generate?

-- 
Jeff Nappi
Columbus Bell Labs
jjn@cbjjn.att.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: kenny@osf.org (Kenneth Crudup)
Subject: Re: 89 Ford Taurus chronic stalling problem
Summary: Joke, folks....but lets see how many newbies I get!
Reply-To: root@localhost
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:30:20 GMT

In article <Nov11.231646.84716@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
bh437292@lance.colostate.edu writes:

>Bien le bonjour Pierre,
>Je voudrais te remercier pour ta reponse dans rec.autos. 
  ...

I put this thru Rot-13 and *still* couldn't make sense of it. Perhaps you
posted this in EBCDIC?

	-Kenny

-- 
Kenny Crudup, Contractor, OSF DCE QA
OSF, 11 Cambridge Center, Cambridge, MA 02142	+1 617 621 7306
kenny@osf.osf.org			OSF has nothing to do with this post.
	  Religion: The longest-running gag ever played on Mankind.
From: easton@zds-oem.zds.com (Jeff Easton)
Subject: Formula (was Re: BETTER? 92 Camaro...)
Organization: Zenith Data Systems, OEM Systems Engineering
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1992 15:59:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.005416.1675@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:
>In article 1dcj7lINNpop@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:

>>HUH??? a FORMULA w/o an auto?? never laid eyes on one..i was thinkin
>>that they were never actaully made...WOW..i'd love to drive this once.
>
>That's right! She's a rare one in the States, but most of the ones 
>that were imported to Canada came with a 5-Speed. My '87 also has the
>five speed with a stiff hydraulic clutch. The newer ones are easier
>on the left leg, but I'm used to mine. The original owner of my car also
>equipped it with(among other cool junk) disc brakes all around, 16" 
>wheels, 245/50/VR 16 Gatorbacks, 5.0 Litre TPI V8(the manual tranny was
>not available with the 5.7), Full analog instruments, top of the line 
>Delco stereo, T-tops, cruise, PWR locks and windows(no PWR mirror or
>seat), performance suspension, etc,etc,etc(!)

  According to the Pontiac catalogs, the only engine not available 
with the stick was the 5.7L TPI (i.e. any Formula 350)

  Also, the 4 wheel disc's were standard on any Firebird with a TPI
engine (5.0L or 5.7L).  It looks like in '89 they started putting
bigger discs on the rear, along with dual exhaust past the cat's.
It was good for another 10 hp.

  Was positraction standard on TPI equipped Firebirds as well?

>Are you foaming at the mouth yet? :)

  Who, me? :-)

>Torque Monger


-- 
  ___  ___    Jeff Easton             easton@zds-oem.zds.com
 (__  (__     Zenith Data Systems     j.easton@mi04.zds.com
 ___) ___)    Saint Joseph, Mich.     easton@andrews.edu
Monte Carlo   Z-LS/20 - Choice of a quiet generation