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From: gtoal@robobar.co.uk (Graham Toal)
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Subject: Re: Top 25 News Submitters by User by number of articles for the last 2 weeks
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:00:07 GMT
Organization: Robobar Ltd., Perivale, Middx., ENGLAND.

Remember Chris protecting my reputation last week?  Well, the sods on soc.bi
weren't as generous - my words-l addiction appears to have been outed to
the world courtesy of the net stats...

In article <1992Apr13.161643.23901@panix.com> ro@panix.com (r l reid) writes:
:In article <1992Apr10.112430.13118@cs.tcd.ie> cjmchale@cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale) writes:
:>In <1992Apr09.203701.11078@robobar.co.uk>
:>gtoal@robobar.co.uk (Graham Toal) writes:
:>
:>Graham, I didn't know you were on bit.listserv.words-l. Of course, I
:>think it's totally disgusting; have you considered therapy? :-)
:>
:Now Ciaran, lets be Liberal about this (in the USAian sense).  It
:is really none of our business if Graham and other consenting
:adults want to do that words-l thing.  Of course I'm talking
:about the ones who have the good sense to keep it behind their own
:doors and not to be words-ling out in the streets where everyone can
:see their lifestyle.  You know, most people have experimented
:with words-l, and most outgrow it, but that doesn't give us
:any right to discriminate against those who don't, they can't
:help it they were born that way.  It even happens in nature.
:
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:		r l reid	ro@@panix.com
:@WOOF, QUACK AND  MEOW: Composers of Woof present a variety of computer music 
:[Apr 26, 8:30 pm, Cunningham Dance Studio 55 Bethune (Westbeth), NYC)]
:[Apr 30, 8:30 pm, SIA, (410 W 118 St, top floor, NYC)]


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From:         "Lisa J. Gilmore" <TSLGILMORE%CC.WEBER.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (38)
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>>   et Asterix est un vrai guerrieur gaulois!  Le fin.

>The visible structures of grammar!!!  Even in slightly altered form (where
>*does* the damn adjective go, anyway?!?)  The previously noted error in
>article gender (le instead of la fin) notwithstanding.


Wait!  I thought it was supposed to be -le fin- ...   LJG
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From:         Rashmi Murthy <rashmi%CBIS.ECE.DREXEL.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Swedish cake mix
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              "BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU" at Apr 11, 92 10:52 am

>              Notice: The manufacturers are not responsible for the
>              effects of [any?] cakes baked with this mix by motherly
>           women active in international exchange of electronic mail.
>
>      The business about the missing dots is too subtle for me.
>
>      bog
>
This is really funny.  Thanks for providing the translation, Brad.  What
is utbyte (exchange?)  I was too lazy to go find the Swedish dictionary,
but very curious to know what it meant.   Who's going to figure
out what the missing dots represent ... we can't wait for Torkel to
tell us.  That would be giving in.

rashmi
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Subject:      Re: econometrics (long)
              7 Apr 1992 22:14:59 CDT from <tushar@ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU>

Why must I be so predictable as to call anyone a aarrgghh nerd? --
simplicity is almost always the best proof.  Besides, I try to be
parsimonious in responses.  (And even if you need notation to be
"rigorous", it is still translatable for others.  One of the things I
learned when I started teaching integrated research design/statistics
was that I didn't really understand anything until I could make it
understandable to my students without leaning on notational crutches.
The formalization simply helps to create a mystique for the non-
cogniscenti.)

JAG
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Happy Horoscope

     I was also a bit surprised at the List Angel's stated age.  Then
I thought for a moment and realized that being an angel, she would age
differently than a mere mortal and that this was where I had been led
astray in my estimates.

Happy Birthday, Karen.

The Ronin
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Date: 10 Apr 92 08:26:42 GMT
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In article <199204092057.AA00475@eff.org> rita%EFF.ORG@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU (Rita Marie Rouvalis) writes:
>cost ya about $3.50 plus s&h...

Or in this case, s&m...

G
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Subject:      Re: nouns
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              <9204150943.aa08337@Nova.TCS.Tufts.EDU>

Says torkel@SICS.SE:
>  Tushar says:
>
>  >In any algebraic
>  >system with a binary operation, an idempotent element is one
>  >which satisfies aa=a.
>
>  Yes, you're right, this is the general formulation. But who, in or
>outside Bombay, refers to composition of functions as "multiplication"?

Most any algebraist.
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On Wed, 15 Apr 1992 14:59:00 MDT The Ronin said:
>>could connect to
>> anything else I wanted with a local call to Georgia Tech....doesn't this
>> work everywhere?
>
>     Not around here.  The spectre that a non-student/faculty/staffer
>might actually use one of the school's resources is a driving force
>behind policy around here.
>account with the first.

***this is amazing news to me...in GA we have a network called PeachNET and
almost all the units of the state university system are now connected to it...
all you do it get the phone number of the closest college or university, and
dial...from PeachNET I think it goes to SURANET, and from there, the world.
I am re-appreciating the advantages of living in Georgia...there are many.
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor%RA.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The National Academy (again)

> It was me, Natalie--she's confusing me w/ you. My counterexample was
> Japan, which has megadictionaries and the Mombusho to control written

Sigh....  Carol gets me mixed up with Karen; Fred gets me mixed up with
The Ronin.  Do I have no identity of my own?  Oh well.  At least I'm
being mixed up with good people.  So far nobody has gotten me mixed up
with Galmin.  And nobody has mixed Bernard up with Quincy.

   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
     who misses her clicky keyboard and VDM but is thankful for the
     blessings of telnet, enabling her to be in Alabama and Mississippi
     at the same time...
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From:         torkel%SICS.SE@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU
Subject:      Re: Hello???
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              08 Apr 92 09:32:46 -0500. <9204081443.AA26527@sics.se>

  Frank writes about GNUS:

  >I've played with gnus, by the way.  Its pretty nice and doesn't depend
  >upon an outside database...and is actually amazingly fast considering
  >what it accomplishes (and using interpreted LISP code to boot).

  What is notably slow in GNUS is the sorting of article headers. This
is no doubt chiefly due to the use of a poor sorting algorithm. Otherwise
it's quite fast enough, and very nice to use.

  On a religious note: how strange that there are people who don't use Emacs!
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor%RA.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
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>         IMO, every group will develop a set of in-jokes.  The test is
> whether or not we are willing to let others in on it.  Were you made to
> feel reasonably welcome, Stu?  You seem to be adjusting to the list!

Keep in mind that a large number (the majority?) of the most active
participants on the list right now are relative newcomers.  I think
that says something important about the ease of entry into the in-crowd
of WORDS-L.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
     Old-Timer
     Subscribed to WORDS-L the day it was born

P.S. I'm happy to announce that the net goblins seem to have been
subdued -- at least for now.
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From:         Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS%CWU.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Oldies but goodies

>     - Anne, who looks pretty good for her age -- (gasp!) 40

I can attest to that.  Both the Brown women I met were enough to set my heart
a-fluttering!

Chris

Judith, even at 28, one can think one's e-mama is beautiful and tell people so.
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From:         Mark Susskind <NY911179%PACEVM.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>

On Mon, 13 Apr 1992 08:53:58 EDT <HUNK@BRUFPB2> said:
>I am talking from Brazil and for ages have been studying English,
>American English.
You poor, poor devil. ;->

>I would like anyone out there to try to explain me if such idioms are
>widely used in the U.S.A. and their correct meaning. Here they are:
>NEW LOW;
>TO ZAP IT TO YA;
>ETH'ED
>FAITH 'N' BEGORRA.
>Yours faithfully, Admir.
>On the far (but not outlying) So. America.

Hi Hunk!  Glad to hear from you.
'other Mark' from FREETALK here.

"new low":
It is often suggested to mean a record low value, the lowest some measure has
ever been.  It may also mean that this is the worst deed that a particular
person has ever done

"to zap":
to send something over very quickly, like e-mail, or long distance copying
(faxing), or express mail, or personal delivery straight away.

"eth'ed":
Ask The Ronin!  He should know! =)
"-eth" is an English verb inflection, which has been lost in speech through
persistent disuse.

"faith and begorra":
It's all Greek to me. =)
                        I guess I should put tartan sauce on my fish filets. =)

Mark R. Susskind <NY911179 @ PACEVM.BITNET>

"If I am not for myself, who will be for me?
 If I am only for myself, what am I?
 And if not now, when?" -- Hillel

"The impropriety is no illusion." -- Mark R. Susskind
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor%RA.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Re: CALLING ALL STUDENTS OF RUSSIAN
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> Are there any people on this list that is studying Russian,

Eeek!  I wonder who taught Aimee in freshman comp.  Must not be
anybody I know.

> but I personally think that he's nuts. Either he thinks I am
> very smart or else very suicidal.  Probably the latter!:(

Anybody who can spend as much time on e-mail as you do and still
do very well in school can ace Russian.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         "815 Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980"
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Subject:      Re: Wagner's Law

Hey, Judith Schrier, are you volunteering to join the nit-pick
squad?  Bill's post was rather complete and Lisa will certainly be
able to put together a good bibliography if she gets her butt in
gear.

Steve Karlson

Get a good start and sail on the lifted tack.
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From:         Tushar Samant <tushar%ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Visceral response

Why do I get the feeling that the point has been lost on some people ?

What do you think the guttural reaction is to ?

tushar
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
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Sayeth        Rita <rita@EFF.ORG>

> leather jacket -- I suggest we all post exactly what we're wearing tomorrow
> so we can find each other more easily (and better hog bandwidth).

> Czarina

     Does that mean no nude posting in Cambridge, tomorrow?

The Ronin
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From:         Carol Goodson <CGOODSON%UGA.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: sad thought
              11 Apr 1992 06:55:21 CDT from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

On Sat, 11 Apr 1992 06:55:21 CDT Natalie Maynor said:
>> the inadequacies of the public school.
>
>Generalization alert:  *In general* my students who went to public
>schools *tend* to be better than those who went to private schools.
>That is especially noticeable for the ones from Starkville, Mississippi.
>(That, of course, may be related to the fact that most of the university
>faculty and staff, a pretty significant segment of the population of
>Starkville, are staunch supporters of public schools.)

Just food for thought...could it be because private schools in the North
were begun in order to provide a better education, while private schools in
the South were usually founded to avoid integration?
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Subject:      re:virtual reality

From:   NAME: Les Buhite
        FUNC: Visual and Performing Arts
        TEL: (716) 665-5220                   <BUHITE, LES AT A1 AT JCCV03>
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/> Sprachen sie Das Herren Roninen, LS, MFD:
/
/     Ok, Les, you got me stumped.  As near as I can make out the
/plural forms (Herren Roninen) would indicate that I have multiple
/personalities (we tried to tell my shrink that, but she wouldn't
/listen to us) and the 'LS, MFD' means that I am for smoking (LS/MFT).
/If the above is wrong, please straighten me out.
 I've been meaning to learn the language but one thing
leads to another... PhD, MFD, LSD -- I get confused!

/  But I see more and more people using computing power to
/extend their minds capacity, similar to how a library of books would
/work, and to help define their social world (*the* best way to get
/hold of me is to send me e-mail).  In this, while there are parallels,
/I believe that a much more personal relationship is developing and
/that it is of a different nature than obsessions with more mainstream
/hobbies, at least in part because a lot of this is *not* being done as
/a hobby, but as a way to exist.
I'll grant you a good deal of this. I also spend much more time online
picking up info of some sort or another than I could endure on the phone or
watching TV. I have a tv, but it's hooked to the vcr -- doesn't pick up any
channels and we're not on cable. Nevertheless, netcrawling isn't substantially
different than ham radios for getting info. For some, it becomes a crutch
or addiction of sorts when they can't deal with reality.  I have several
specific examples in mind of acquaintances who would fit the description, and
I'm sure most of the online crowd here does also. (I'm not pointing a virtual
finger at anyone as I say that.) People can fabricate a reality out of the most
improbable cloth.  Check out "The Kool-Aid Wino" in (the late, great)
Richard Brautigan's _Trout Fishing in America_.

//     I actually see [Tarot, Runes, I Ching] more as tools for
/introspection than mental extension.  My experience with them has
/been that I tend to get a better view of myself by analyzing how I
/interpretted something shown by these occupations.  This in turn may
/improve my mental abilities, but I have never felt like these were
/extensions fo my mind any more than the weights I would use to exercise
/my muscles would be extensions of my muscles.
When oracles are used as a means of self-analysis, one gains a better
view of the self. When used for others, they are IMHO indeed extensions
of the mind, as you step out of mere self-reflection and into areas of
information you wouldn't otherwise have access to. A lot like being online.

/The Ronin

Les--running a bit behind on my ems
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From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita%EFF.ORG@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The People in Cambridge
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              92 5:22 pm

> Is anybody online right now who remembers the name of the place where
> all the leather people are now gathered?  I want to call them, but I
> don't know how to find the number.  I just waded through a bunch of
> usenet postings searching for the one that finally named their time
> and place.  Never found it.

	It was the Cambridge Brewing Company, Natalie!  Wow, that
woulda been neat...

Czarina...
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>Is it true that Asimov would not fly ?  I've heard this repeated many times,
>but it sounds like one of those UL things.

It's alleged that he tried.  In 1971, he went up on the roof of the MIT
Physics Labs, flapped his arms vigorously, but didn't feel that the
air-to-bodyweight ratio was appropriate.  Next, he strapped on a pair of
wax wings but was reminded that Greek mythologies often have significant
"real-world" meanings that he might be well-advised to heed, especially
on a hot, sunny day.  He tried running as fast as he could down the main
runway at Logan International, but after going 6,000 feet he could only
get himself up to 92 mph, far too slow for safe takeoff.

So he took the train to Providence instead....

Ken
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: New Voices on the list

Announceth    Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS@CWU.BITNET>

> I'm thinking that a ten-count would be appropriate at this time.  The
> challenger appears to be flat out on his face from a wicked right cross from
> the Pugilating Punster, the local favorite, Ms. Harwell.

     Not to diminish Ms. Harwell when she is crossing from the right,
but I think this was more like showing up to a tag-team match without
one's team.

The Ronin
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From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita%EFF.ORG@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
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> >
>   And will this be scanned and posted to the archives for all to peruse?

	Absolutely!

Czarina
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From:         "815 Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980"
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Subject:      America's Cup Update

Yesterday, AMERICA**3 beat KANZA to keep the possibility of an
all America**3 final alive.  VILLE DE PARIS beat NIPPON for the
challenger consolation prize, and NEW ZEALAND beat IL MORO DI
VENEZIA in the tune up for the challenger finals.  The critical
point was at the seventh windward mark, just as was the case on
Tuesday between KANZA and STARS & STRIPES.  NEW ZEALAND were
approaching the mark on starboard; IL MORO tacked onto starboard and
into an overlap, and almost hit NEW ZEALAND before hitting the mark.
Both boats flew protest flags, and the umpires ruled (as they did on
Tuesday) that IL MORO had to make a penalty turn for hitting the
mark.

When I get home today I should have a tape of today's action with
commentary on the incident.  In today's action KANZA race STARS &
STRIPES.

Steve Karlson

Get a good start and sail on the lifted tack.
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From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita%EFF.ORG@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Re: words-l history
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              92 7:01 pm

> How did this list turn into the strange and lovable entity that it is??
> That would make a truly fascinating history.

	Sounds like a thesis to me!  And it's easier said than done,
I have a feeling.  I've been trying to write poems about the "cyber
experience" and am having a *hell* of a time of it.  I've written
pages and pages of material, but can't seem to get a firm enough
grasp on it all to put it into coherent form (I like my poems to
be reasonably coherent).  So now I have nothing to workshop tomorrow
night.  Blargh.  And we're having a guest instructor, too.  Double
blargh.  Bunchamore blargh, even!

Rita
(And before Akio gleans me:  "bunchamore" means, roughly, "lots of"
but I don't think anyone else uses the expression besides me and
my friend Paula.  "Blargh" is simply a gutteral expression of dismay,
disgust, and/or frustration.)
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