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From: csroc@cvbnet.prime.com (cvbnet)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Speilberg
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:48:55 GMT

From article <1992Dec14.044627.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>, by whan@eagle.wesleyan.edu:
> Steven Speilberg can make fine science fiction films but when it comes to more
> serious work, I don't think he can cut it.  Some people wil say "What about the
> Color Purple?  That was a serious movie that was nominated for a ton of Oscars? 
> I really must say, since I first read the book, the movie really sucked.  It
> took a beautiful novel and totally changed the meaning and perverted its
> message.  I suggest to anyone who thinks that The Color Purple is a great movie
> to go read the novel and find the true message Alice Walker intended and not
> one roughly paraphrased by Speilberg.


So this is the scenerio you suggest.
Person A sees the movie "The Color Purple".
Person A loves the movie"The Color Purple".
Person A thinks the movie"The Color Purple" is great.

Person A reads the novel.
Person A finds the book and movie differ on their "true message".
Person A must now say "The movie really sucked"...NOT


Get real...The world is full of movies
that don't measure up to the book.  We 
have had 2471 posts on that subject in just the last 18 months.
If you read some of them you might realize
that it is possible to like the book better,
the movie better, both, neither, some degree 
of some combination of the two.
From: conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: MOVIOLA?  Anyone Heard of it?
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:30:49 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <1992Dec15.163244.1@mscf.med.upenn.edu> butterworth@mscf.med.upenn.edu writes:

>anyone heard of this movie?  cast, director, release date?
>kind of a vague question i know... 

I know of only one filmic entity called MOVIOLA.  It was made for tv,
based on Garson Kanin's memoirs of Hollywood.  It was a miniseries in 3
parts, each with its own title and largely different cast:

1.  Greta Garbo's ascent to stardom.
2.  "The Scarlett O'Hara Wars" -- the making of Gone With the Wind and
    search for an actress to play Scarlett.
3.  Marilyn Monroe -- I think it was called "This Year's Blonde"

Late 1970s as I recall.  The three parts are now shown separately on tv.
Part of the fun is the casting to play the famous people.  As I recall,
Kathryn Harrold was Garbo, Sharon Gless was Carole Lombard (perfect),
and Constance Forslund was Monroe.  And Morgan Brittany was Vivien
Leigh.

Jon Alan Conrad
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From: barrus@cod.nosc.mil
Subject: re: Millers Crossing
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:13:36 GMT


In article <1992Dec18.060556.132418@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>  writes:
>If you have two dollars, rent it.  Not just a gangster movie.
>-- 
> 
> 
>           "Come, dogs, we'll see who will walk away,
>              and who will be food for the crows"
>                                                -Conan, the Avenger

Where in the world are you renting for two dollars!!!  Certainly not 
out here in California.
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Good 1st time, not second
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 07:30:25 GMT
Organization: Usenet Power Elite: Crush-The-Innocent-Newbies Strike Team

cew2w@Virginia.EDU ("Chris Wrike") writes:

> By the way, I thought "Batman" was really good the first time I saw it
> and I've pretty much hated it ever since. 

Me too.  The first time was great, enough to make me go a second time in the
theatre, and the second time I wanted to be *anywhere* but someplace where
I had to watch that movie.  Huuuuurgh.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
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From: mritchie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie)
Subject: Re: ?? Mister Scratch = Devil ??
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 05:02:38 GMT

In article <17350026@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com> brett@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com (Brett Hanna) w
rites:
>
>I looking for the name of a movie that deals
>with an aging grandfather type who manages to trick the grim reaper
>(or the devil) into an apple tree and will not let him down, at which
>point all death related activity is suspended. Does this ring a bell
>with anyone. I believe the gentleman in the tree also went by the
>name "mister scratch"
>
>

The original movie is On Borrowed Time, from 1939, with Lionel
Barrymore as the grandfather and Cedric Hardwicke as Death (Mr.
Brink).  It's a charming fantasy.  Perhaps it was remade with
Death renamed Mr. Scratch, but Scratch is usually a name given
to a devil-figure (as in, I believe, The Devil and Daniel
Webster).

--Michael
From: "eliot gelwan" <eliot.gelwan@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: who is dwight frye?
Date: 16 Dec 92 03:59:29 EST
Reply-To: "eliot gelwan" <eliot.gelwan@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

FGAgreed.  Lugosi was born to play Dracula, and Frye was born to
FGbe Renfield.

Not exactly. As Halliwell notes, Lugosi only got the role because
Karloff, who the studio *really* wanted, refused!



                   |
...eliot          -*-              Postlink: ->CHANNEL1 [R/O okay]
                   |               Internet: eliot.gelwan@channel1.com

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From: vaughanj@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jake Vaughan)
Subject: Re: Jurassic Park
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:14:47 GMT

In article <101807@netnews.upenn.edu> jeremys@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jeremy "EL HOMBRE" Scheinberg) writes:
>I'm just curious as to whether or not anyone else out there has read the book.
>I remember reading it and thinking that it would make an awesome movie.  Why 
>is the general opinion in this group that Spielberg won't do the film 
>justice?  Also, why didn't Michael Crichton direct his own book?
>
>Lookin' forward to visiting the park!!!
>
>Jeremy "EL HOMBRE" Scheinberg

I read the book and thought it was FANTASTIC!!!  I turned every page with a 
passion.  I sweated from beginning to end.  I, too, thought it would make a 
great movie at the time.  I feel that Spielberg is the perfect person for the 
job and am sure that "Jurassic Park"  will be THE movie of '93.

Jake

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From: panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden)
Subject: Re: Watchmen
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 07:37:26 EST

jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car) writes:

> Gilliam was at least slated to work on it at some point.  I saw an interview
> with Gilliam after he released Baron Munchausen and he was wearing a
> bloody-smiley-face pin on his shirt.
> 
> -- 
> Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ)                 uunet!sco!jondr   jondr@sco.c
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> I was an infinitely hot and dense dot.


...This sounds promising.  But I last heard the rumour that Gilliam was 
working on it a couple of years ago.... long enough for it to be possible 
that the project was shelved.

I can only hope they're working on it....

Manhattan lives!

Namaste,
Elizabeth


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From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Re: What is this movie?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:37:05 GMT


	Your quote, more often heard as "Come weez me to ze
Casbah," was never spoken in any film.

						-Quinn
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From: mcohen@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: APOCALYPSE NOW  (Was Re: Movies you loved, but couldn't see more than once.)
Organization: Clark University
Date: 16 DEC 92 19:31:57 GMT

In a previous article, hhtra@usho72.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock) wrote:
>In article <168BEDF0D.ARL00SJB@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU>, ARL00SJB@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU writes:
>|> Definitely _Apocalypse Now_.  One of the most powerful movies I ever saw,
>|> but the whole thing was like a descent into a nightmare, with madness at
>|> the bottom.  My boyfriend and I argued about that one for weeks, especially
>|> when they sacrificed the cow - I said that scene was real.  They filmed in
>|> the Phillipines, with no SPCA to forbid actually chopping up an animal
>|> that way, so I was (and still am) convinced that the sacrifice was real.
>|> I remember someone asked me if I "liked" that movie, and I couldn't give
>|> her an answer she could relate to.
>|>  
>|> --Jean
> 
> Yep, the waterbuffalo was really slaughtered.  As I remember it...
> 
> According to the Oscar winning THE MAKING OF APOCALYPSE NOW, the
> crew were taking a break from filming and the villagers were off 
> celebrating some kinda of holiday or something.  Some of the crew
> went but soon came running back to get FFC and took him to see the
> _sacrifice_ for real.  So impressed he was with the whole ceremony,
> he put it in the film to symbolize the _slaughtering_ of Kurtz/Brando.
> 
> After arguing for several days over WHY Kurtz/Brando should say a
> simple line, someone said they could've save a animal by just sticking 
> some horns on Brando.  ;)
> 
The "Making Of" was called "Hearts of Darkness", and wasn't even nominated for 
an Oscar.  It SHOULD have been - one of my favorite films.  (Gene Siskel rated 
it has the best movie (documentary or otherwise) of 1991).  Otherwise, your 
story is quite correct.

One afterthought...Most filming of Hearts of Darkness was done by Francis's 
wife.  I met Francis in September, and asked him about it.  His reply: "The 
moral of this story is...Never complain to your wife!"

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From: firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith)
Subject: Batman Sequels
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 01:53:38 GMT




Anyone have any definite information about where there will be Batmans III
and IV, who will direct, who the villains will be, etc?



Firestar
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Unless it's called for.    | back on heaven.      | and lost than to have your
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From: uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Jurassic Park
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:03:49 GMT
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: faui09.informatik.uni-erlangen.de

jcwasik@srv.PacBell.COM (Joe Wasik) writes:

>Don't be too hopeful. Two of Jurassic Park's main characters are children.
>With Spielberg as a director, this may be "Peter Pan Meets Dinosaur."

Or "Home Alone 3: Kevin vs. the Two Wet Tyrannosaurus Rexes"


My Cool's in Miami and I'm in Erlangen! ARRGH!

(C)OOL mcmxcii
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From: rrb2x@Virginia.EDU (Richard Ramiaz Banks)
Subject: Re: The Train with Burt Lancaster
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:31:17 GMT

	Definite mistake (ain't I picky)!  "Kill a thousand,
and you're a general."  But I must say, it could be "kill a
million..."


	Rikilla the Hun is a memeber of the Hsiung-nu
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Subject: Re: Top Five Movies of All Time
From: S954818@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU (Mark Pedigo)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 23:31:47 CST
Organization: UM ST. LOUIS
NNTP-Posting-Host: 134.124.1.2

Probably a belated response, but here's my 2 cents:
 
There are entirely too many really good movies for me to say definitively that
any five stand out heads above the rest.  However, 5 damn good films (IMHO) off
the top of my head that I would highly reccomend:
 
Letters from an Unknown Lover (WWII with a twist)
Children of a Lesser God
Carrie (truly a "Horror" film -- not just scary, but disturbing)
The Wall(if only for the soundtrack)
Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down!
 
-mp
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From: asale@fraser.sfu.ca (Antonina Sale)
Subject: The aria in Room with a View????
Summary: a question that's driving me NUTS!!!
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:16:27 GMT

Hi, maybe someone can help me with this question, it's driving me INSANE!!!!!
WHAT is the name of the operatic piece (aria, I think) featured in _A Room
With a View_???????? It's been in a lot of movies, it's a woman singing, and
it sticks in my head because of it's expressive style that emphasizes emotion 
over trilly formal stuff. I'm dying to find out what it's called and what 
opera it's from... PLEASE HELP!!!

Thanks in reverse.

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From: vaughanj@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jake Vaughan)
Subject: Re: Problems with DieHard 2
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:29:07 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.212425.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> whan@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>There are some other problems with Die Hard 2 that bothered me.  For instance,
>the airplane that does crash (British?) explodes into a huge flaming fireball
>despite the fact that just before the crash the pilot says that they've nearly
>run out of all there fuel.  Also, I think everyone noticed or knows about the
>Pacific Bell logo on a phone presumably located within Dulles International
>(Washington).  In fact the whole movie is filled with so many implausibilities
>that I really can't watch the movie without going off about them.
>

I have got a few more.  Remember the scene where Bruce Wilis is fighting the
guys hiding in the baggage conveyer area of the airport?  Wilis throws one
of the goons onto the conveyer where, when he gets to the top, he is crushed
by some machine.  Since when did airports crush baggage before they loaded
it onto the airplane?!

Also, when the tower has no communications to the aircraft in the traffic pattern.  Why didn't they just go down to the runway, get in a 727 or any other plane
for that matter, and talk to them through that planes radio.  Any good controll-
er can direct traffic if from a radio of this sort.

Jake
From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: annoying nuances in films
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 16:06:46 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Dec15.045725.12261@Virginia.EDU> <jyc.724438140@Leland>

>
>   What always bothers me is when people order drinks or food and then
>leave without paying for them.  I wish real life was like that. 

And when having a phone conversation in a film or tv show,
no one ever says "goodbye" before they hang up. They just hang up.

Harv
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From: venks@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Kareenhalli V Venkatesh)
Subject: Compilation of movies made by different actress wanted!
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 16:23:34 GMT

  
  I had seen a list of actresses and the movies they have made on this
  net sometime back. Can someone email me the list or post
  the list or give me the name of the ftp site where it is available.
  Thanks a lot...venkatesh

  email : venks@cn.ecn.purdue.edu
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From: shorts@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Rafi Levavy)
Subject: Re: A FEW GOOD MEN
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:33:58 GMT

>Just an observation:
>The description/synopsis I have seen of this film looks like
>if it is a remake of "A Soldier's Story". Or perhaps some
>other movie (I am in Sweden and the titles are translated
>here... can't remember the title of the other movie). Anyway,
>the storyline sounds VERY familiar.
>Anyone know?

It is actually based on a recent Broadway play, also called "A Few
Good Men".  The play originally starred Tom Hulce.

Rafi

-- 
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: hollywood movies
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 20:18:25 GMT

In article <143814@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi) writes:
>In article <BzCzGI.261@nic.umass.edu> a0s5108@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Neal and Mara Priestly) writes:
>
>>Hollywood owns two of the top 5 exhibitors, United Artists owns UA cinemas
>>(the largest) and Loews (4th largest.)  For the curious, AMC and General
>>Cinemas are 2 and 3 respectively as of October.
>
>I thought UA cinemas was split off from United Artists studios many
>decades ago, as part of a big antitrust settlement.  In fact, weren't
>all the studios forced to give up their movie theatre holdings then?
>(This was in the 1950s or 60s, I believe.)  Have they rejoined?

The anti-trust suit that separated the studios from their theater chains
was in the early 1950's.  It was overturned several years ago, and studios
were permitted to buy theaters, again.  There was a brief spate of purchases
before the studios decided that the road to wealth no longer lay in
theater ownership.  (They used to make out like bandits because they
could guarantee product for their theaters at all times, and guarantee
theaters for their product.  Now, no studio alone produces enough films
to keep a theater chain fully booked for the year.  The influence
of television, which has cut down on the size of audiences, makes it
impossible to return to the earlier days of producing 50 films a year,
since a large number of those were formula, B films.  TV supplies the
demand for most of those, nowadays.)

I don't know for certain if United Artists repurchased UA cinemas.
Actually, I know that they didn't, technically speaking, since UA hasn't
been a separate company for over 10 years now, and the change in the law
didn't happen that long ago.  Disney, by the way, brags about how smart
they were not to buy up theaters when the feds permitted it, which suggests
that the studios that did weren't too pleased with the results.

-- 
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

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From: bjornhk@dhhalden.no (BJORN HAAVARD KLEVEN)
Subject: Re: SCRIPTS
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 06:59:23 GMT

In article <1g7c8rINN1nt@oak26.doc.ic.ac.uk> gr@doc.ic.ac.uk (G Rimikis) writes:
>From: gr@doc.ic.ac.uk (G Rimikis)
>Subject: Re: SCRIPTS
>Date: 10 Dec 1992 12:13:15 -0000
>
>In article <1992Dec10.35652.14173@ms.uky.edu>, skjohn01@nx34.mik.uky.edu (stephen k johnson) writes:
>|> I Would like an FTP site where I can get Scripts. 						
>
>
>	 Two FTP sites I know: 
>    cathouse.aiss.uiuc.edu              in dir:  misc/fun/movies/scripts
>    faui43.informatik.uni-erlangen.de      >> :  /pub/doc/misc/FUNNY/Monty_Python
>
>
>        Does anyone out there know any other sites? Share this info with us !!

Yes please! 

the cathouse.aiss.uiuc.edu site had 10 scripts: the Star Wars films, 4 Monty 
Python films, The Princess Bride and Rocky Horror Picture Show.

Is that all the scripts that exist in digital form publicly? Anybody who 
*knows* of any other scripts in digital form?

-=* Bjorn
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From: faa@athena.cs.wayne.edu (Felicitas A. Atabong)
Subject: Re: Daniel Day Lewis, Anyone?
Organization: Wayne State University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:13:40 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.140744.14898@mlb.semi.harris.com> cbh@opus.mlb.semi.harris.com (Cherie Slasor) writes:
>In article <168BEE736.ARL00SJB@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU> ARL00SJB@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU writes:
>>Just wondering if there's anyone else who was *very* entranced with DDL
>>in _Last of the Mohicans_, as my best friend and I were when we saw it?
>>I immediately went out and bought _My Left Foot_, which was *nothing*
>>like _LOTM_, but in which I saw why it was that Daniel got his Oscar.
>>And I *loved* that great piece that Libby Whatshername did on Daniel
>>in _Premier_ magazine (it was either the last one or the one before).
>>VERY funny!
>> 
>>--Jean
>
>YES!  Shortly after seeing _LOTM_ (for the 2nd time, I think) I rented
>_MLF_ and _A Room With A View_ and found that he was a totally different
>person in each of the 3 movies.  He even looked different and I doubt
>I would have recognized him if I didn't already know he was there.  I am
>very impressed with what a true actor (as opposed to a "movie star") can
>do.
>
>Is it true he's the son of a former British Poet Laureate?
>
Yes it's true. When LOTM came out, there was some traffic on the net
about DDL. If you get the chance, check out "the unbearable lightness of
being", and "my beautiful laundreate" in which he plays very different
characters once more. He's surely one of the best.

Feli.

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From: George.Harris@launchpad.unc.edu (George Harris)
Subject: Re: Most SHOCKING film in my childhood
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:45:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.185241.8485@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com> mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.213046.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> whan@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>>The most shocking film of my childhood was a movie called "The Kingdom of the
>>Spiders".  In it, a bunch of tarantulas take over a small town and wrap in
>>webs.  This movies scared the shit out of me when I was young.  I wonder, has
>>anyone else seen this gem of modern horror?
>>
>
>Ah, William Shanter in his bet non-ST role...  :)

	Not that I am a big William Shatner fan or anything, but before he
became Capt. Kirk, he actually was at least a competent actor.  I would 
recommend seeing him in an early '60s Corman release titled Shame (at least,
that's one title it's known under) about an agent provocateur in a small
Southern town trying to stir up racial strife.  It was quite an effective
performance.

>Ed McCreary                                               ,__o
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