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From: bn112@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chris Katopis)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: The value of socks (yes, on your feet)
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:23:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.188gjoINNkk9
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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I have this friend that complains whenever i wear shoes with-
out socks.  he insists that socks serve some important role 
in protecting the hygene of the feet.  but if you take care
of your feet and shoes, who needs socks?
any opinions?
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: poo@athena.mit.edu (Claude Poux)
Subject: Re: Muscle by S. Fussell
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:13:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.175428.20372@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
>References: <1992Sep2.193718.13729@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> 	<1992Sep3.090513.339@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu> <SHAFER.92Sep3080709@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov>
>
>shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer) writes:
>
>>I'm about half through with it and it's a very good book.  The photos
>>are amazing.
>
>I read it when it came out, and re-read it a few days ago.  The photos
>are interesting.  It shows him at 22, a skinny sack of bones, at age
>age 30, a muscle bound freak, and at age 31, a rather ordinary looking
>guy.

actually, he did go back to lifting, and is not just an ordinary looking type...

>After giving up lifting and the drugs, he dropped down to 200 lbs over
>4 months and stayed there.  When I read that I was thinking that if
>hypertrophied muscles will go away so quickly, what's the point of 
>spending all the time and effort to maintain them?
>
>Jim Del Vecchio

jim, hypertrophied muscles that have been generated ala steroids evaporate
much more quickly than those that have been sculpted by years of work.

poo
From: ekp@mcnc.org (Edward Pavelchek)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Fitness thoughts
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:54:30 GMT
Organization: Good place for a disclaimer

In article <1992Sep3.011420.992@hpcvusn.cv.hp.com> harry@cv.hp.com (Harry Phinney) writes:
>I've heard other opinions.  Dr.  Peter Van Handel, who was an exercise
>physiologist at the Olympic Training Center told me in late 1988 that he
>had heard of or read of some recent research which had shown an excess
>of oxygen in the muscle cells at effort levels beyond VO2max.  The
>speculation he offered was that the aerobic metabolisms were not being
>limited by the oxygen supply, but rather by the chemical reaction rates
>and the number of reaction sites.


This is one of many conundra I would like to be enlightened on, if
we can get the ground rules agreed on.

Somehwere, I can't remember, I read a discussion relating to this.  The
points raised were that perfused muscle tissue worked just fine on
O concentrations considerably lower than present in a maxed out live
person.

The contradictory evidence is even stronger, however.  After a little
practice, subjects reportedly can pedal long periods ( minutes, anyway)
with one leg at 80% of the power with two legs.  Since one leg must have
only half the sites, this indicates that central delivery is limiting.
Subjects cranking with the arms and pedalling don't increase power
either, after training.

In between is the efect of hyperbaric oxygen.  Breathing O2 does provide a
little greater power.  But nowhere near the extra power indicated
by the improvement in blood O2 carrying capacity at the higher
pressure.  Altitude training has not proven helpful in sea level racing,
despite its proven increases in blood carrying capacity.
-- 
Ed Pavelchek   ekp@mcnc.org
But I make a profit of 3 1/4 cents an egg by selling them for 4 1/4
cents an egg to the people in Malta I buy them from for 7 cents an egg.
Of course, *I* don't make the profit.          Joseph Heller, Catcha 22
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: kimmyd@bnr.ca (Kimmy Posey P920)
Subject: Re: Abominable Abdominals
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:50:03 GMT

In article <5235@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, natali+@pitt.edu (Thomas J Natali) writes:
|> In article <19920826095247IZZYOA1@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU> IZZYOA1@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU writes:
|> >
|> >   OK HERE'S THE DILEMMA.  I DO A REASONABLE  AMOUNT OF ABDOMINAL
|> >  WORK.  BY NO ONE'S DEFINITION DO I HAVE A "SIX PACK", BUT IF I
|> > FLEX MY STOMACH THERE IS SOME NOTICABLE DEFINITION.  THE PROBLEM
|> > IS THAT ALL THE OTHER TIMES WHEN I'M NOT WORKING OUT OR FLEXING
|> > MY GUT HANGS OUT. I FLEX IT IS OK, I DON'T THEN ITS FLABBY. COULD
|> > THIS BE LACK OF TONE IN THAT AREA AND IF SO DOES THAT REQUIRE A
|> > SPECIAL TECHNIQUE OF EXERCISING THE ABDOMINALS?  PLEASE POST
|> > ME SOME ANSWERS PLEASE OR MAIL ME DIRECTLY.  MY ABS THANK YOU.
|> >
|> > R.P.   (IZZYOA1@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU)
|> >        I AM MALE, 20 YRS OLD.
|> 
|> Here's an idea that might work for you...
|> A friend of mine once told me to work my obliques as well as my lower back
|> in order to help develop a tight stomach.  He claimed that if you only work
|> your abs, you'll end up with strong abdominals that sag.  He said that the 
|> lower back, obliques, and abs are somehow all connected, therefore
   strengthening
|> the lower back and obliques will actually lend support to the abs.  ie.
   lifting
|> them and pulling them tight.  I don't know how true this explaination is, but
|> I do know it works pretty well for me.  
|> So try doing hyperbackextension (reverse sit-ups) and other exersizes that 
|> strengthen these other muscles. 
|> 
|> hope this helps,
|> 
|> Tom   

Check out the May 1992 issue of Muscle & Fitness magazine.  There is an
awesome SuperFeature on abdominals that goes into a good deal of detail with
regard to the ab / lower back relationship.  Lots of other good stuff about
nutrition and training for killer abs.

KimmyD

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: zgierski@scs.carleton.ca (Jack Zgierski)
Subject: GNC Health Care Products
Reply-To: zgierski@scs.carleton.ca
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:49:50 GMT

	I have recently heard about GNC, a company which supplies a diverse range
of natural health care products. Unfortunately the phone number (and address) I got
is about two years old and upon phoning I found out the number is no longer in service.
(the number I have was for a branch of the company stationed in Montreal, Canada). If 
any knows the new number or whereabouts of GNC (preferably in Canada), I would
appreciate the information.

		- Thanks.

--
Jack Zgierski
zgierski@scs.carleton.ca
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: poo@athena.mit.edu (Claude Poux)
Subject: Bodybuilding Hilarity
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: misc.fitness
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:40:50 GMT

at the 1992 massachusetts state bodybuilding championships held in july,
there was a brief (thank goodness) interview with a guest poser who is a
national teenage sensation (a young matarazzo?) who shall remain nameless.
as usual, bodybuilding great mr. katz was master of ceremonies, and he
conducted the interview on stage, after this guy guest posed.  the
interview went as follows:

katz:    why did you get involved with bodybuilding?
answer:  i wanted to grow.

katz:    what keeps you training so hard month after month?
answer:  watching myself grow.

katz:    what are your plans in bodybuilding?
answer:  to keep growing.

does this guy have a one track mind or what??!!  the interview was ended
at that point.  shawn ray followed with an awesome posing routine and 
a refreshingly articulate interview.....

poobear
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: harry@cv.hp.com (Harry Phinney)
Subject: Re: Fitness thoughts
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:14:20 GMT

mazur@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Beth Mazur) writes:
: People who are trying to lose a substantial amount of
: weight are proabably better off at a lower intensity (using a higher
: percentage of fat as fuel), because the last thing they probably want 
: are serious carbo cravings after exercise.

For a strict goal of losing weight, you are correct.  Depleting the
carbohydrate stores will tend to train the body to store more
carbohydrate, which effectively causes the body to store more water,
which will increase one's weight.  On the other hand, this alone won't
_necessarily_ reduce the amount of fat which is utilized during exercise.

: From Fit or Fat (p. 55-57):  [ this one's for Ed, Harry, and Phil :-) ]
: 
: 	...[A heart rate between 65-80% is] able to supply enough oxygen
: 	to the muscles so that glucose is disassembled through both
: 	stages and completely burned.  [If > than 80%, ] the heart
: 	and lungs cannot keep up with the oxygen demand in the muscle.

I've heard other opinions.  Dr.  Peter Van Handel, who was an exercise
physiologist at the Olympic Training Center told me in late 1988 that he
had heard of or read of some recent research which had shown an excess
of oxygen in the muscle cells at effort levels beyond VO2max.  The
speculation he offered was that the aerobic metabolisms were not being
limited by the oxygen supply, but rather by the chemical reaction rates
and the number of reaction sites.  Training apparently stimulates an
increase in the number of reaction sites (i.e.  more and larger
mitochondria) and possibly better reaction rates through better control
of temperature, pH, salinity, etc.  Unfortunately, Dr.  Van Handel was
later killed in an airline accident, so I can't ask him any more
questions.  Perhaps Ed or someone else here knows more about this and
can either confirm or refute one of these explanations.

: 	Anaerobic exercise, therefore,
: 	effectively shuts off all fat burning and forces the muscles to
: 	use glucose exclusively."

I'm currently unconvinced, but I'll certainly yield to Ed's knowledge of
this topic.

Harry Phinney   harry@hp-pcd.cv.hp.com
From: mickw@autodesk.com (Mick Washbrook)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: MUSCLE by Samuel Fussell
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:08:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.122236.333@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu>, loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu writes:
> If anyone is interested, there is a good book that just came out in paperback
> called Muscle by Samuel Fussell.  
> It is about a guy that goes from on Oxford University graduate to a steroid
> using competitive bodybuilder/powerlifter.  He describes how his mentality and
> his entire self changed due to the use of steroids and bodybuilding.
> I would highly recommend it.

Funnily enough, I was flicking through the book last night. I'm not sure
whether I'd exactly "recommend" the book to people who are thinking of
joining a gym, though the book does show the chasm that exists between
bodybuilding for health and bodybuilding for competition. His account
is highly fictionalized; he admitted that the major characters in the
book were composites of people he encountered. It's hilarious in parts,
but overall, is very cynical. If there's a message, it's that obsession
is unhealthy, whether it's religion, work, or bodybuilding.


--
From: georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Charges Filed Against Makers Of Nutritional Supplements
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:19:44 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

It is both illegal and fraudulent to claim a protein supplement will
help make you stronger.

The New York City Department of Consumer Affairs has filed charges
against six manufacturers of nutritional supplements for deceptive
advertisements in body-building and fitness magazines.

To receive a report, send $5 to:

     Magic Muscle Pills
     Health and Fitness Quackery
     N.Y. City Department of Consumer Affairs
     42 Broadway
     New York, NY 10004
From: 8schutting_r@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re:I WAS ON ABC W/ADAM FOR THREE MIN
Date: 31 Aug 92 22:17:51 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

i can't believe adam threatens us the way he does! he must have some sort of 
behaviour problem. is he socially dysfunctional?
i was on abc with adam. when the announcer asked adam  how much can you
lift? i couldn't believe it, adam was speechless. then i realized he wasn't
really speechless! he just has the vocabulary of an infant. i also wonder about 
adam's claim to fame. needless to say common sense would tell us that it's 
because adam only competes against college students  and not lumberjacks 
from oregon who have real strength. if adam was for real he'd leave maryland 
now and shoot for some real competition. 

bob
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: kurtm@leland.Stanford.EDU (kurt mitchener)
Subject: FAQ for this group?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 22:58:27 GMT

-Kurt
kurtm@leland.stanford.edu
From: loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Weight Training
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:34:06 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <1992Sep1.013620.13240@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, mmb@po.CWRU.Edu (Melina M. Barreca) writes:
> 
> 
> 
> I am just curious about the following.
> 
> I have been lifting weights for about a year and a half now, and
> as of May, have been lifting 6 times a week.  I really like the
> results I've obtained and am looking forward to even more.  Now
> here's my question:
> 
> If you have put yourself on a 6 day schedule, and then find it almost
> impossible to keep it up(schedule, folks, schedule), would doing two
> days lifting hurt muscle growth, i.e. lifting both legs and upper body
> on the same day.  I know you need to give your muscles time to grow
> while you're lifting, but I am running into a problem with my schedule
> (as well as the gym's hours) to keep lifting six days a week.  I 
> combined two of my workouts Saturday because I couldn't lift Friday
> and I felt fine.(It actually felt GREAT).

I would not suggest this.  In order to really work your muscles, you should only
work two major muscle groups per workout.  For example chest and back one day,
shoulders, tri's, and bi's another day, and legs (quads, hams, glutes, calves)
and maybe delts or traps if you don't do them on your back or shoulder day.
This is mainly how I am training for my competition.  Before I started training
I worked chest one day, legs another day, back another day, etc.  
To do both lower and upper body workouts in the same day is too much, and you
also won't be concentrating on what you are doing like you should be.
I don't know what your objectives are in the gym.  If you are "bodybuilding", 
then concentration is your most important tool in the gym.  You cannot 
concentrate trying to jam everything in to a single workout like that.  If you
are in the gym just as a recreational kind of thing, you still should not try to
jam everything in unless you are doing only a few sets of each exercise.  You
could hurt yourself very easily.

> 
> Any advice/help would be appreciated whether it be posted or e-mailed.

Hope this was helpful.  Feel free to either email any questions to me or post
them on the net.

-Rob

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*Loszewski_im@hnrc.tufts.edu                                                   *
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*                   "Hasta La Vista...Baby."--Arnold Schwarzenegger            *
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> 
> -- 
> You say my eyes are crazy eyes
> Sometimes they are and so are you
> And if you wonder, what I would do, I would do anything if I could
> You know I would...
Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: Sstevens@oregon.uoregon.edu (Shirien Stevens)
Subject: bleach in water:
Keywords: storing water for emergencies
Organization: University of Oregon
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:42:39 GMT

Perhaps this is the wrong newsgroup:  I hope not. 

I want to store water in plastic milk jugs.  How much bleach or iodine per 
gallon do I put in, and how long will the water be good?  Should I change it 
every few months?

Thanks.

sstevens@oregon.uoregon.edu
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: just checking
From: <MJKWIAT@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Wednesday, 2 Sep 1992 15:36:20 EDT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: chris@ipc1.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (Christoph Niessen)
Subject: **test, please ignore**
Organization: RRZN
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 11:49:34 GMT

sorry, another test...

chris


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Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: federkin@rtsg.mot.com (John Federkins)
Subject: Re: What is that screen in front of speakers at Conventions?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:07:27 GMT

whitley@mksol.dseg.ti.com (harlon whitley 952-2342) writes:

>The screen in fromt of speakers at Conventions, it is heads up
>display, with their speech on  it.

Otherwise known as a teleprompter.

You didn't actually think that politicians memorized their 
speeches, did you?  :)
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Motorola, Inc.				Arlington Heights, IL
Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: ederveen@athena.research.ptt.nl (Ederveen D.)
Subject: testing, please ignore
Summary: introductory Esperanto correspondence course by e-mail
Keywords: esperanto, e-mail course
Reply-To: D.N.M.Ederveen@research.ptt.nl
Organization: PTT Research
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:02:48 GMT

a;slfk
;lakdfj
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:14:35 EDT
From: <DJS148@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Re: Test

I don't know what the balls I'm doing.
Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: borrel@dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen)
Subject: Whale sounds
Reply-To: borrel@dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen)
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:48:58 GMT

Can anyone suggest a source for whales sounds on CD, LP or AT?
(email preferred)

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From: roger.pecoraro@ozonehole.new-orleans.la.us (Roger Pecoraro) 
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Who can decipher "bl"
Date: 29 Aug 92 08:44:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Ozone Hole BBS - New Orleans, LA - (504)891-3142 16800 Baud
Reply-To: roger.pecoraro@ozonehole.new-orleans.la.us (Roger Pecoraro) 

To: spt@grace.waikato.ac.nz

    Hello, Simon.  I just couldn't resist saying "hi" to someone in
New Zealand.

    A good friend of ours visited your country a few years ago...he
stills talks about how much he enjoyed his visit and has convinced
my wife and I that we have to visit New Zealand one day.
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Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: cguenthe@bosun1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Carsten Guenther)
Subject: Re: Test
Organization: University of Hamburg, FRG
Distribution: eunet
Date:  3 Sep 92 10:03:18 GMT

<DJS148@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>I don't know what the balls I'm doing.
test
Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: chris@ipc1.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (Christoph Niessen)
Subject: **test, please ignore**
Organization: RRZN
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 11:04:58 GMT


Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: silver@fraser.sfu.ca (Craig Silver)
Subject: Looking for a Manufacturers Agent
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 07:30:03 GMT

        I am looking for a Manufactorers Agent interested in 
promoting a new wobble-type dado with magnetic fratures.  It cuts 
3/16'' - 13/16'' in one pass up to 5000 R.P.M.  Please call or email 
if you are interested or if you know of where/whom I can contact.  
Thank you.

-- 

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Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: fedorjak@pche (John Fedorjaka (x39829))
Subject: testj2
Summary: testj2
Keywords: testj2
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co. - Clinical Products Division
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Distribution: all
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:44:31 GMT


just a test, have a nice day!



Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: jdd@engr.ucf.edu (Joseph Dumas)
Subject: Weather information?
Summary: Where can one get weather info over the net?
Keywords: weather, information
Organization: engineering, University of Central Florida, Orlando
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:24:20 GMT

Not sure if this is the right place to post this, my site doesn't carry
any newsgroups on 'weather' or 'meteorology', but does anyone know of a
currently active weather service on the net?  One used to be able to
'finger national@banjo.concert.net', for example, to get a summary of
weather conditions across the USA.  This service now appears to be
dead....

What prompts this (today, at least) is a desire to know the latest
coordinates of Hurricane Andrew....  I can't get to a TV right now to
check the Weather Channel, and the local radio stations aren't saying
much now that the storm has passed away from Florida.

Of course, it would also be nice to be able to get weather info during
ski season, for those of us not so lucky as to live near the resorts....

Please reply by email or post in one of these groups if you think others
might wish to know this info.

Thanks,

Joe

-- 
--->  Joe is jdd@engr.ucf.edu (Joseph Dumas):  "Cats are snooty and wouldn't
fetch a stick on a bet.  They also scratch.  I dislike cats....  I like dogs
because they forgive easily...and will settle for thirty seconds of care and
attention if that is all you have to spare."  --Lewis Grizzard
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