HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jedubins@unix.amherst.edu (Just a fellow traveller...)
Subject: Re: Switching Disks in the a2emulator
Organization: Limbo, Org.   (how low can you go)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 22:06:53 GMT

T.J. Fiske (tfiske@qualcom.qualcomm.com) wrote:
: I have been transfering programs over to the PC for the past couple weeks
: and I am amounting several .DSK files in my apple2 directory.  I have no
: problem swapping the start up D1 and D2 disks, it can all be done by
: manipulating the files with a batch file.  The problem I have is that some
: games require several disk images, and therefor need the disks switched during
: the running state of the emulator.
: 
: Has any one come up with an idea on how to swap disks from inside the emulator?
: 
: And any ideas why the emulator won't run in a window's shell?



It works in an OS/2 Dos window! (very well too.) 


Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: Does apple ][ GS software work using the apple ][ emulator
Followup-To: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 12:55:00 GMT

Hmm - well, color Macs with large screens have to deal with peculiar
location and shapes of windows.  And of course monochrome Macs have problems
with at least some color applications.

As for the GS, the only applications that I have seen have problems are
those written for special serial cards, etc. - things that are not present or
things with specific roms.  I would say that 99.99% of the software which I
have tried on my GS works - including the stuff from back in my Apple II days.
Oh - wait.  There is one limitation - the GS doesn't have a cassette tape
port, so all my old software on audio tapes can't be read in.  But of course,
many of thouse couldn't be put on a hard disk anyways (they expect to be
running from a cassette) so it isn't too bad...
-- 
Larry W. Virden                 UUCP: osu-cis!chemabs!lvirden
Same Mbox: BITNET: lvirden@cas  INET: lvirden@cas.org
Personal: 674 Falls Place,   Reynoldsburg, OH 43068-1614
Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Subject: Re: Reading Apple disks in IBM drive (was Re: Does anyone know of...)
Reply-To: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:42:14 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.185338.7635@rei.com> fox@rei.com (Fuzzy Fox) writes:
>dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) writes:
>
>>OK now listen everybody. An IBM controller can be programmed to read
>>pretty much anything. On IBM 3.5" you can read apple 1.4 and 800K,
>>ensoniq, amiga, atari, akai, sinclair (and probably a lot more). Programs
>>exist for all these.
>
>There are many, many people out there searching for a program that can
>read and/or write Amiga format disks on an IBM controller.  They have
>been unsuccessful in locating the program.  You claim that such a
>program exists, so, where is it??

	This should be a possibility.  A friend had an Amiga emulator,
but it didn't work when we tried it.. :(

	But the IBM, Amiga, and Apple FDHD's all use MFM encoding, so
in theory, an MFM 1.44 meg drive should be able to read all of the
aforementioned disks.  Although, the Amiga squeezes 880k onto the
disk.

	Is there a utility to read HFS disks on an IBM?  You figure
there should be.

>#ifdef TRUE        | Fuzzy Fox (a.k.a. David DeSimone)       fuzzy@netcom.com

Steven Chiang                  Order - DreamGrafix:  The ONLY 16/256/3200
stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu       color paint program for the Apple IIGS.
America On_Line:  DWS Steve
Genie:  S.Chiang4              Apple IIGS Forever!
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: ketlux@ketlux.demon.co.uk ("Geoffrey A. Stephenson")
Subject: Where the heck are you?
Distribution: world
Organization: ket
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 00:18:15 +0000

We are, we just ain't communicating too much {:>} sort of silent partners..

Zen says he who speaks does not know, he who knows does not speak.

--
Geoff Stephenson at ketlux@ketlux.demon.co.uk fax to +352 318154
All thought draws life from contacts and exchanges. Fernand Braudel
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: karl@NeoSoft.com (Karl Lehenbauer)
Subject: WWW; manpage to HTML; local caching; What's up?
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 19:02:14 GMT

We think the world-wide web (WWW) is really neat.  

For those even more uninformed than me, 
World Wide Web (WWW) is a hypertext project which seeks to build a
world wide network of hypertext links.  There are several different
browsers for this system including a simple tty interface.  For a 
demo of the terminal browsers for WWW, telnet to the following sites:

 telnet info.cern.ch or telnet 128.141.201.74 (SWISS)
  telnet eies2.njit.edu or telnet 128.235.1.43 (USA [NJ])
   telnet vms.huji.ac.il or telnet 128.139.4.3  (ISRAEL)
    telnet info.funet.fi or telnet 128.214.6.100 (FINLAND)

     and login as "www"

It can front-end Gopher and WAIS clients, and it works.  Please email me
or post if you think you know of serious problems or show stoppers with
this technology.  (Or of something better that has similar, public roots.)

Anyway, I have written a program that can convert formatted manpages
into HTML (hypertext markup language).  It gets most of the
references to other manpages and makes them into WWW-compliant hypertext
links.  It also can mark up boldface, italic and bold-italic.
Could someone tell me the SGML codes for those formats, and whether any of the
WWW clients make use of them?  I will post it after it gets a bit farther.

Also, we currently have a wimpy V.42bis Internet link, so running the
local clients is painfully slow.  I would like to modify a client to
save copies of the nodes locally when they're pulled down.  A
modification to WWW's hypertext transfer protocol (HTTP) to support the 
querying the modification time, or equivalent, of a node, would be great
for us but possibly of good, general use as node sizes grow as 
multimedia components are added.
-- 
-- Email info@NeoSoft.com for info on getting interactive Internet access.
"In a minute, I'll burp up your droid."
From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
Subject: Re: WWW; manpage to HTML; local caching; What's up?
Date: 3 Jan 1993 22:53:49 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Karl Lehenbauer (karl@NeoSoft.com) wrote:
: We think the world-wide web (WWW) is really neat.  

So do we!

: It can front-end Gopher and WAIS clients, and it works.  Please email me
: or post if you think you know of serious problems or show stoppers with
: this technology.  (Or of something better that has similar, public roots.)

The only possible slight hitch is getting enough people up to speed on
SGML (the markup language at the roots of WWW) to make it possible to 
have wide spread development.  Other than that it's a real winner.

I have a "request for discussion" that's going to officially start up
once the news.announce.newgroups moderator is back from vacation,
and we'll see if we can spin off a whole newsgroup for it.

  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 GLOB

Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: salmeniu@robocop.cs.hut.fi (Jaakko J Salmenius)
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
Subject: Any hypertext library awailable?
Keywords: Search-It
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:15:59 GMT
Reply-To: salmeniu@niksula.hut.fi (Jaakko J Salmenius)
Distribution: inet
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
NNTP-Posting-Host: robocop.cs.hut.fi

I need a good hypertext library to be used in my project. I should be able
to render each hypertex item into a Windows window, take care about making
the hyperlinks and to accept some word prossecor file formats. I need source
codes, too.

I somebody knows a product I could use, please let me know.

	Jaakko
--
Jaakko Salmenius	| Helsinki University of Technology
salmeniu@niksula.hut.fi	| The believable ski heroes, at least in my opinion,
phone +358 0 805 5951	| are the ones who ski the extreme and watch Star Trek.
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: toin@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Toin Bloo)
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
Subject: Definition of Hypertext ?
Date: 24 Dec 92 09:19:39 GMT
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

I know only a little of hypertext, but I need to use a kind of definition
of it in a report about "electronic script". 
Can someone post a nice and sound definition of the "idea" of hypertext?

Thanks in advance!
-- 
Toin Bloo                      member of: The Young Scientists Eindhoven
+31 40 622681 (home)                      Frederiklaan 163  5616 NE  Eindhoven
toin@stack.urc.tue.nl                     The Netherlands, Europe
                                          (toin%storc@dutentb.et.tudelft.nl)
From: cg011@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark M Woodward)
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
Subject: HyGen from MaxThink
Date: 24 Dec 1992 01:25:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Well, I finally got the new HYgen program today. Judging from the time and
date stamps on the files, I'd say quite literally "hot off the press". I've
not had a chance to really get in and play with it, but it looks wonderful.

I have used HyPlus for some time now, and this offers several improvements:
	1) Glossary Wheel
	2) Active Graphics (PCX)
	3) Link to Word Perfect files
	4) New Thesaurus and KWIC features.

No sense taking up time now, but I will report back after using it for a 
couple of days. Don't know if anyone has posted it yet, but as the HyGen
engine (reader) is just like HyPlus, you should be able to find it soon
atak.oakland.edu, or one of the SIMTEL mirror sites....more later
-woodwamm@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu

ps. not affiliated with MaxThink etc.....
-- 
Mark Woodward
From: vaitken@dres.dnd.ca (Vic Aitken)
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext,comp.sys.ibm.pc.software,comp.sys.ibm.pc.apps
Subject: HyperText Info Req'd
Keywords: hypertext
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:28:51 GMT
Reply-To: vaitken@dres.dnd.ca
Organization: Defence Research Establishment Suffield


  Could someone provide information on hypertext programs that have the 
following capabilities?

1) Able to display math symbols and expressions
2) Capable of multiple concurrent fonts
3) Capable of displaying graphic images (both bit-map and vector)
4) Has a freely distributable viewer, so that any IBM user can run our
     application.

  If you know of any articles that compare various systems, that would be
valuable too. Ideally, the program would also be available on other
platforms, principally the Mac. 

  Respond by e-mail only please. If there is sufficient interest, I 
will post a summary.

-- 
Vic Aitken, vaitken@dres.dnd.ca, (403) 544-4726, 
Defence Research Establishment Suffield (DRES)
Box 4000, Medicine Hat, Alberta, Canada, T1A 8K6
(OPINIONS ARE MY OWN, NOT THOSE OF DRES)
From: mscrap@halcyon.com (Marta Lyall)
Subject: FTP location?
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 00:27:33 GMT

Does anyone know if the electronic version of, _Writing Space: The
Computer, Hypertext, and the History of Writing_, by Jay David Bolter,
can be found at an FTP location? Thanks.
From: hari@metrix.UUCP (T Hariharan)
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
Subject: Re: Public Domain Packages...
Date: 21 Dec 92 23:17:31 GMT
Organization: Metrix Network Systems, Nashua, NH

In article <BzCqLA.6oI@cs.mcgill.ca>, zippy@cs.mcgill.ca (Fotis XIPOLITAKIS) writes:
> Hi,
> 
> 	I'm looking for public domain hypertext packages that run oon
> 	the Sun OS. Can anyone suggest a few? I've already bumped into
> 	HyperBase, Hyperbole and Viola... Are there anymore? Excuse me
> 	if this is mentioned in the FAQ but I havn't seen it yet...
> 
> Fotis Xipolitakis aka zippy@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca

Could you please post information on how to get the above packages ?
A site with a mail server would be nice, but an ftp site would be OK too.

If you've used the above packages, could you add a few comments on how good
they are ?

Thanks,
-hari
-----------------------------------------------------------
Thiagarajan (Hari) Hariharan                hari@metrix.com
Metrix Network Systems, Inc., 1 Tara Blvd, Nashua, NH 03062
voice 603.888.7000                         fax 603.891.2796
From: jgoodwin@cns35.fnal.gov (John Goodwin)
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
Subject: FreeLore Project Announcement
Keywords: FreeLore Project, FreeLore
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:37:00 GMT
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, AD/Controls
NNTP-Posting-Host: cns35.fnal.gov
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

This project is of great interest to the readers
of this group, since the project will provide raw 
material for hypertext viewers.  Also, we need the
expertise of this group to make the project a 
success.

The most definitive statement of the relation of
the project to alt.hypertext is in alt.uu.future,
FreeLore Bulletin No. 2.

Please consider joining our effort.
From: ehrlich@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Heyward Ehrlich)
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
Subject: Jan 13 NEACH: Hypertext Practice
Date: 30 Dec 92 05:48:34 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


      NEACH: The Northeast Association for Computers and the Humanities
                         invites you to hear  

                 JAN WERNER on HYPERTEXT IN PRACTICE
            on Wednesday, January 13, 1993, at 1:30 p.m. 

in Room 26A of the IBM Building, 590 Madison Avenue at 57th Street, New York
City.  He will discuss issues, decisions, and strategies in preparing and
using hypertext, including comparing hypertext to information retrieval, when
not to use hypertext, and how to select among types of hypertext software,
and he will demonstrate different hypertext structures and how to get data
into hypertext form.  Don't miss it!

Jan Werner is chair of the New York Consultant's Forum and has held several
offices in NYAC.   He is an independent consultant and head of Jan Werner
Data Processing, a firm specializing in survey research and opinion polling.

Please put these NEACH dates in your calendar: (future dates to be confirmed)
=============================================================================
Wednesday, Jan. 13:  Jan Werner,  Hypertext in Practice
=============================================================================
Tuesday, Feb. 23:    Michael Sperberg-McQueen,  The Text Encoding Initiative
Thursday, Mar. 11:   John E. Thiesmeyer,  "Editor" and Style Checker Software

Best wishes for the New Year.  And please forgive any multiple postings.
--Heyward Ehrlich, NEACH President (ehrlich@andromeda.rutgers.edu)

..............................................................................

        An Invitation to Support NEACH through Membership for 1993:

If you wish to join NEACH for 1993, the regular annual rate is $15.  However,
you can save $10 by joining or renewing NEACH and the national ACH at the
same time.

A. Rates:    NEACH regular $15    Active rate
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Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: neck@idtsun14.kfk.de (Torsten Neck)
Subject: Hypertext - Authoring System
Keywords: Search-It
Reply-To: neck@iai.kfk.de
Organization: "Kernforschungszentrum Karlsruhe"
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 11:58:28 GMT


-- 
We are looking for an hypertext system with authoring system that is easy to include into existing software as help module by simple system commands (Sun Open windows).
The system should be free or not expensive and immediately available.

Has anyone heard of such a system?

Has anyone heard of the Search-It system ditributed by Sun?

Please send your hint or your experiences on Search-It via e-mail to
 neck@iai.kfk.de

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Torsten Neck	 			email: neck@iai.kfk.de
Kernforschungszentrum Karlsruhe
7500 Karlsruhe (Germany)
Xref: sparky alt.atheism:24634 talk.religion.misc:24810
From: jmunch@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (John Munch)
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: THE MIND OF THE BIBLE BELIEVER
Date: 31 Dec 92 00:30:06 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

In article <1992Dec26.032102.6648@en.ecn.purdue.edu> muehlhau@en.ecn.purdue.edu (John Muehlhausen) writes:
>I am not qualified to comment on the psychological analysis
>presented, but even if it were right on, it is meaningless
>unless it can be shown that there is some other attainable state of
>mind that is superior from an end product view.
>
Hmmm....You seem to be saying that the ideal situation would be to
mass hypnotize everyone into believing that they are happy. That the 
ends justify the means. I'm sure Hitler would have agreed with you.

FYI the ends do NOT justify the means. Oh yeah, you also don't seem
to understand that sadness, anger, and of course happiness are all
normal healthy human emotions. Trying to live your life in just 
one is unhealthy.

                     -John David Munch
Xref: sparky alt.atheism:24104 alt.sex.wizards:4077 soc.men:21574 misc.kids:30925
From: kassover@rumsey.crd.ge.com (David Kassover)
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.sex.wizards,soc.men,misc.kids
Subject: Re: About circumcision
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:49:36 GMT
Organization: nope

In article <1992Dec19.171659@IASTATE.EDU> mcoffin@IASTATE.EDU (Marie Coffin) writes:
>
>Here's an odd fact I bet you didn't know:  some biblical historians now
>believe that Jews began circumcision to correct a medical problem prevelent
>in their gene pool...probably a foreskin that wouldn't retract properly.  
>They suspect this is behind the story of Abraham's inability to father
>children also.  

Then whose child was Isaac?


-- 
David Kassover             "Proper technique helps protect you against
uupsi!khazad!kassover	          sharp weapons and dull judges."
kassover@aule-tek.com                   F. Collins
kassover@ra.crd.ge.com
From: rlk@underprize.think.com (Robert Krawitz)
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: from "No Comment"
Date: 28 Dec 92 09:55:36
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge Mass., USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: underprize.think.com

Found on an MIT bboard.

Comparative Literature

When the Patriot-News is Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, announced it
would drop "Dick Tracy" because of excessive violence in the comic
strip, creator Max Collins protested, "You might as well ban Shakespeare
and the Bible."
--
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harvard >>>>>>  .	Thinking Machines Corp.		(617)234-2116

Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- write lpf@uunet.uu.net
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.religion.misc
From: mam@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (Mike A. McAngus)
Subject: Re: THE MIND OF THE BIBLE BELIEVER
Organization: Homebrew Virtual Reality Labs
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: world,public
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:32:39 GMT

Scott S Parish (parsons@cis.ksu.edu) wrote:
: jwest@wisc (Jeff West) writes:
:
: [Deletions from previous posts.]
:
: >As for the rest of you post I only have 2 comments.
:
: >  1.)  Why did your god "deliever into the hands of Satan" such a
: >       righteous man as Job?  Why did your god need to torture a
: >       true believer?  Wasn't his obedience and faithfulness enough?
: >       Or is it just your gods form of entertainment?
:
: Satan was the one coming before God accusing Job of only serving God
: for the cash, land, camels, sheep, etc.  So, to prove Satan wrong He
: allowed Satan to rake Job over the coals.  It wasn't so much to punish
: or torture (as you put it) Job, as to put Satan in his place.  That's
: just MH interpretation of the story.  And, in the end God blesses Job
: seven times more than he had to begin with; which just goes to prove
: Romans 8:28, "And we know that all things work together for good to
: them that love God, to them who are the called according to [his]
: purpose."

Oh sure, and the herdsmen, shepherds, the men tending the camels, and Job's
children are just minor statistics in the game of celestial power politics.
-- 
Mike McAngus 			 | As if I needed Another time consuming hobby.
(mam@jcnpc.cmhnet.org)		 | 
The Truth is still the Truth	 | This Post exploits illiterates.
Even if you choose to ignore it. |
From: sieferme@stein.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman)
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: Re: The Bible As A Rorschach
Date: 29 Dec 1992 16:24:23 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

In article <1992Dec28.230529.19778@arden.linet.org> joeb@arden.linet.org (Joe Beiter) writes:
>In article <9211241258.AA21354@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com> I3150101@DBSTU1.RZ.TU-BS.DE (Benedikt Rosenau) writes:
>>
>>Fundis appear to work on the following premises: God is Good and the OT (plus
>>the NT for christians) is the word of god. However, when one actually reads the
>>OT (instead of thinking one knows the content), one finds a lot of disturbing
>>stories of genocide, mass murder, killing of almost every living being,
>>slavery, and mutilation ordered or directly done by god. Looks like the
>>premises given above contradict, doesn't it?
>>Interestingly, a Fundi came up with an excuse like: Genocide, when ordered by
>>god, is ok.
>
>Justice, when it is Just, is OK.  You appear to assume God has your sense
>of what is acceptable and what is not.

This is an example of one of my biggest objections to christianity:
the abuse of language.  A typical dialogue with a christian begins
with such bland pleasantries like "God loves you" and "Believe and
gain eternal life".  Only later, after much discussion and study,
does one learn that the meaning of such words as "love", "life",
and "justice" actually contain a different meaning than they do
in normal discourse.

>Did you actually know the people God
>killed?  How do you know they didn't deserve death in the eyes of God?

The only reason that YOU believe that these people deserved death
is your willingness to abandon independent judgement in favor
of trust in an arbitrarily selected religious tradition.

Yes, I believe that it is unjust to kill children, regardless of
what they have done.  God has been credited with many murders of
children and other seemingly innocent people.  If God thinks
that this is just, he wouldn't even be invited to my house for
dinner, much less be given control of my life.

>For your assumption of contradiction to hold water you would have to know
>both God and the people that were killed intimately.

Wrong.  When I hear a story of a child being killed, I don't
really have to know the child or the killer to conclude
that a breech of justice has occured.  But then, I'm just
a plain ol' human who thinks that human life has an inherent
value;  maybe if I achieved your level of God-consciousness
I would be able to know which humans "deserve" death.

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