From: lmlc@brahms.udel.edu (Carolyn M Chandler)
Subject: Re: Scruples (was re: Valiants 4 sale) 
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:34:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.151656.9211@morgan.ucs.mun.ca> cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  8823239) writes:
>In article <BuDzFK.7zD@news.udel.edu> lmlc@brahms.udel.edu (Carolyn M Chandler) writes:
>>In article <stantbat.716155817@vincent1.iastate.edu> stantbat@iastate.edu (John S Sinnott) writes:
>>>In <BuCF25.1r4@news.udel.edu> lmlc@brahms.udel.edu (Carolyn M Chandler) writes:
>>>>I have no beef with jim
>>>If this is true, how come you have posted MANY times flaming him??
>>
>>I only posted twice as i remember and would like to say that i didn't handle
>>my dissagrement with him very well out of anger. I am sorry.
>
>An apology is certainly a start in this matter. None of this should have
>been brought on to the net to begin with. Of course, I'm doing it now,
>but because this is something that is starting to get out of hand.
> 
>>>>someone telling everyone where to get things cheaper? I know that on 
>>>>the net I have ripped off a number of people and done good deals 
>>>
>>>Well, I'll never deal you.  You rip some people off huh? 
>>
>>By this i ment i have been offered some 50 doller book at 3 bucks and bought
>>it i dont mean that i have gone out of my way to rip others...
>>
>>>What do you do over grade the books you send out and hope they don't return it
>>>do you lie and say that the books you are selling are really worth more
>>>than they are?  Why do you not feel some remorse over the fact that you have
>>>cheated people?  Or by 'ripped off' do you mean out and out theft? 
>>
>>I never FEEL remorse. And i have only had one problem with gradeing and i have
>>returned all the money involved.
>>
>>>I think it is perfectly fair to say someone has over priced their books.  I
>>>have done so a number of times.  Many people on this board are begining
>>>collectors, and may not realise what a fair price is.  There are a lot
>>>of people, like Morgan who want to rip people off.  This is unethical, and
>>>sould be stopped.  One way of stopping it is to point out when someone
>>>is asking a significant amount over current prices.
>>
>>So you are the ethics police now huh? 
>>
>>>I am not saying that anyone on this baord, besides Morgan, has ripped anyone
>>>off, or is trying to, but I know that there are dealers who take joy out
>>>of cheating people.
>>>
>>Its funny that you are so full of venom at a statment made by me that was
>>only trying to promote a better understand of my experience on the net
>>and where I was coming from so as to make it easier to understand my question
>>And although I am not sure i aggre with what 
>>Jim C. said earlier about educating collectors i am prepaired to respect this
>>But it does annoy me to get flaimed by people(I didnt say idiots) who seem to
>>have one two many preconceived notions about me.
>>-morgan
>
>I certainly did not interpret your post as trying to promote a better
>understanding of net experience. I viewed it as a thinnly vieled shot at
>Jim. If you are going to post stuff like this,
>you..are..going..to..get...flamed.

Sorry if that sounded like a poor shot at jim but it wasn't, what i was trying
to say was that i have delt a good deal on the net and dont know how i feel
about undercutting people i have done it, probably more then jim, but i know
that if someone did it to me i would me a little miffed.


>Of course we are going to draw up
>pre-concieved notionsabout you. the only way we can know what yu re like
>is from your posts. The posts that you have so far have called Jim down
>to dirt in colorful ways, and questioned his honesty. In the post
>above you claim to rip people off. Not get good deals, but rip them off.

Well you are right i should have stated this better. I cant remember ever 
having purposfully ripped someone off..

>that's prime flame bait. After that ost, I certainly wouldn't have
>dealings with you. That's not creating preconeived notions about you,
>that's common sense.

Why wouldn't you deal with me? Because in haste i said 'ripped off' instead of
got 'very good deals' 

>You are right Morgan, I don't know youI have no idea about yu at all.
>But because yu like Valiant (like I do) I have been following your
>posts. The posts that I have seen and the comments you have made just
>don't impress me. I'm sure that worries you, but it's trueAnyway, that's
>my two cents worth. Flame away.

If this has sounded like a flame i am sorry, but i think you are wrong.

-morgan