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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wednesday, 30 Dec 1992 22:52:41 EST
From: Douglas M. Howell <IO10677@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: HP110 Laptop

    I'm seeking advise.  I recieved a HP110 laptop (circa 1985) for X-mas.
It has Memomaker, Lotus 123, and a terminal program on it's read-only
memory disk.  It runs MS-DOS v2.11.
    Is this compatible with an IBM-XT and if so can anyone direct me to
a software archive.  At the moment I have only the computer itself, there
is no disk drive, but there is an internal modem so I can download.
    How much should I expect to have to pay for a new or used disk drive
for the HP110?  Will only HP drives work with my machine or can I shoot
for a 3rd party compatible drive (at a lower cost hopefully).
    Lastly, is there a way to boost the internal memory (RAM) ?  The
machine has 265k; of that 97k is used for the read-only programs.  Hard
drives are usually rather expensive and and at the moment I'm not sure
the investment would be worth the cost. (seeing how old the machine is).

Ps. Can any one give me a ballpark figure of how much a machine such as
this is worth?  Would be good to know, before I start investing time
and money, whether this is a white elephant or treasure.

Doug Howell             | (Inter)Bitnet: Io10677@Maine(.maine.edu)
University of Maine     | "Science is nothing but trained and organized
Psychology, Technology  | common sense."  - Thomas Henry Huxley
From: pdg@cup.hp.com (Paul Gootherts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Killing idle jobs
Date: 23 Dec 92 17:55:21 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.1 PL6]

>	If your users are using csh, set a default autologout=30, this
>	way the system will log them out whenever they are idle for 30
>	minutes (I found 30 to be a reasonable number for most "relaxed"
>	sites, but you can set whatever you want).

Or, if they are using ksh, check the man page for the variable TMOUT.

--

Paul Gootherts, pdg@cup.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: andrew@iem.com (Andrew Patterson)
Subject: Re: Building HP Kernals
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 20:07:10 GMT
Organization: IEM, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

der@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Dave Ritchie) writes:
: In <1gniefINN7am@loon.graphics.cornell.edu> hurf@boa.graphics.cornell.edu (Hurf Sheldon) writes:
: 
: >In article <1992Dec16.015005.1043@nb.rockwell.com>, lccha@nb.rockwell.com (Lloyd C. Cha) writes:
: >|> A question for HP Kernal hackers:
: >|> 
: >|> I am trying to modify several parameters in our HP-UX 8.07 kernal running on
: >|> HP 9000 series 730 machines.  Specifically, the parameters NPROC and MAXFILES.
: >|> The procedure I have been following is:
: >|> 
: >|>    1) make the changes in the #define statements of the conf.c file
: >|>       in /etc/conf
: >|> 
: >|>       so I have:   #define NPROC    (20+8*MAXUSERS+(NGCSP))*3
: >|>                    #define MAXFILES 256
: >|> 
: >|>    2) execute make -f config.mk in the same directory.
: >|> 
: >|> The conf.o file gets rebuilt, as does the hp-ux kernal.  However, when I
: >|> examine the kernal using SAM after rebooting, I find that the nproc value
: >|> still has the incorrect value.  I was not able to locate the MAXFILES parameter
: >|> within SAM (does anyone have a way of checking the value of this by reading
: >|> the kernal?), but I think that also was not set.
: 
: >I have found that some kernal parameters will not change unless changed in /etc/master.
: >Sam ususlly reports the correct kernal parameter value - adb will report
: >incorrectly large values to kernal parameters under 8.07 (why?) as will monitor. 
: 
: >-- 
: >     Hurf Sheldon			 Network: hurf@graphics.cornell.edu
: >     Program of Computer Graphics	 Phone:   607 255 6713
: >     580 Eng. Theory Center, Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y. 14853  
: >     
: 
: Actually, you should be modifying your dfile and not fiddling with /etc/master
: at all - uxgen should take care of this..... uncertain of what affect this
: has on sam, which does use dfile's to generate kernels - this may just be
: a syncronization problem caused by intermixing sam and manual configuration
: usage.

Uxgen is used on S800 systems.  S800 do not use a dfile, instead they
used something called an "infile".  This is usually located in 
/etc/conf/gen/S800.  On all systems, SAM reads the /hp-ux file to
found out what the current settings for everything is.  It does not
use /etc/conf/dfile, although /etc/master is used.  Dfiles are used
when relinking the kernel by hand.  SAM generates a dfile called
/etc/conf/dfile.SAM to use as a reference after it relinks the kernel.
Note that you can use different dfiles other than /etc/conf/defile
by specify the filename with the config program.  The steps needed to
create a new kernel for S300/400/700 systens by hand are:

  1. modify the master and dfile file
  2. run config  (you can specify which master and file to use on the
                  command line)
  3. run "make config -f config.mk"
  4. mv hp-ux /hp-ux
  5. reboot



: 
: -- Dave Ritchie
: der@hpuerca.atl.hp.com


Andrew Patterson
andrew@iem.com

-- 



Regards,
From: karend@rigel.cs.pdx.edu (Karen D. Lantz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Killing idle jobs
Summary: wanted: program to kill idle jobs on HPUX 8.0
Date: 23 Dec 92 07:10:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdxgate.6610

Many of our users connect to our HP's from their PC's. They have a bad habit
of powering down PC's when done, frequently leaving idle jobs hanging around
for days before someone gets around to cleaning them up. Occasionally, one
of the zombies will chew significant resources. 

I'm open for any suggestions on preventing this problem, or for cleaning up
after with a program that notices idle programs and kills them. Most problems
occur with remote users coming through DTC's.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: web@apollo.HP.COM (Bill Bennett)
Subject: Re: missing /usr/lib/X11/sys.Xdefaults
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 14:58:38 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

Odd that the file would be missing; did you load the X11-RUN fileset?
It installs this file into /etc/newconfig.  I assume the customize scripts
are supposed to copy it into its correct location.

-- 
Bill Bennett  HP Channel Partner Consulting  web@apollo.hp.com  508-436-4475
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.unix.ultrix,comp.mail.misc
From: jthomas@nmsu.edu (James Thomas)
Subject: ftp security in 8.0+
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 21:12:54 GMT

Hi all :-)

We just upgraded to 8.0 (don't aks why :-) and found a tidbit that I don't
remember seeing on this newsgroup.

ftp now does the new getusershell() call (or whichever calls it actually
uses) to make sure the user has a valid shell in /etc/passwd .

Why?  login doesn't seem to.  POSIX?  This seems like an awfully backwards
way to allow control over who can log in but not ftp (can't they always
just log in and run ftp the other direction?).

This change is not listed in the "Changes for 8.0" information.  It is
documented in ftp(1) and in inetd logging (if one happens to enable that).

Jim Thomas (wsmr-emh82.army.mil)
--

Jim Thomas   jthomas@nmsu.edu   jthomas%midas@wsmr-emh89.army.mil
From: gsk@world.std.com (Geoffrey S Knauth)
Subject: Free Software Workshop, Moscow, 4/19-23
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 14:23:33 GMT

	     CONFERENCE ANNOUNCEMENT AND CALL FOR PAPERS

   There is a conference on Free Software taking place in Moscow,
Russia, April 19-23, 1993.

   The conference is hosted by SUUG, the Society of Unix User Groups
(formerly the Soviet Unix Users Group), the Russian Center for Systems
Programming, the Russian Chapter of the Free Software Foundation, and
the International Center for Scientific and Technical Information.

   Participant specialists are coming from North America, Europe and
Japan.  We have just learned that Richard Stallman, founder of the
Free Software Foundation, and recipient of the ACM Admiral Grace
Hopper Award and MacArthur Fellowship, will attend.

   The main topics of the Workshop include:
   - the current state of the GNU project and other FSF projects;
   - "free" software means information freedom and sharing;
   - free software portability in Open Systems environments;
   - user experiences with free software;
   - free software in education and training;
   - legal aspects of free software;
   - relevance of free software to NIS modernization and democracy;
   - how NIS scientists can contribute to free software.

   Concurrent with the conference, there will be a small exhibition
demonstrating free software in a networked heterogeneous environment.

   The conference encourages submissions of original designs, papers
and ideas, and it welcomes the participation of computer and software
companies.

   In the past, a conference of this kind has drawn 120-140 attendees
from within the former Soviet Union, including 20-30 computer
specialists, 60-80 enthusiasts, 20-30 persons from the commercial
sector and members of the public.  This year the turnout is expected
to be larger, because there is great interest in free software among
all kinds of programmers and users.

   The precise location of the conference will be announced in the
coming months.

   For further information, you may contact any of the following
members of the program committee:

Name                        Telephone            E-mail
--------------------------  -----------------    ----------------------
Moscow
  Sergei Kuznetsov (Chair)  +7 (095) 272-4425    kuz@ivann.delta.msk.su
  Peter Brusilovski         +7 (095) 198-7055    plb@plb.icsti.su
  Dmitry Volodin            +7 (095) 231-2129    dvv@hq.demos.su
Boston
  Geoffrey S. Knauth        +1 (617) 891-5555    gsk@marble.com

   Please send proposals for participation, paper abstracts and texts
via e-mail to the Chair <kuz@ivann.delta.msk.su>.

-- 
Geoffrey S. Knauth, Marble Associates, Inc.                Member BCS-NeXT, LPF
gsk@marble.com, (617) 891-5555                             Standard Disclaimers
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jeff@dsndata.uucp (Jeff Minnig)
Subject: rs232 problem on 9000/385
Organization: /users/jeff/.organization
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:44:06 GMT


System:         9000/385
OS:             hpux 8.0
Modems:         Telebit T2500 (3)
Extras:         Expander Box for mux ports.

Have an irritating little problem with my system that I would like to
clear up...

My modem ports become brain-dead when I have failed logins...

You can still dial in on them, but dial-out is inhibited.

cu returns the message:

"MDTR was not set"

The problem can be cleared by rebooting the system.

It appears that the kernel has become confused about the state of
the card.

I have:

1 modem running on the 98644 built-in port, select code 9.
1 modem running on a 98642 4-port mux, slot 0, select code 10
1 modem running on a 98642 4-port mux, slot 0, select code 16.

What I am looking for is a way to re-sync and reset the card/os
interface (without crashing the system) so I can clear this problem
without rebooting the system.

I have thought about writing a program to access the card directly
via DMA and reset from there.

Ideas anyone?  Anyone gotta program to do this?

Thanks
-jeff-
--

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	I said it, not the people I work for.
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Design Data			|
1033 'O' St.  Suite 324         | {hpfcla,sparky}!dsndata!jeff
Lincoln NE 68508                | 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath)
Subject: Re: HP700/92 terminal: how to get 'real' raw mode ?
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 22:33:26 GMT

In article <1i6qt0INNq4q@mine.informatik.uni-kiel.dbp.de> ca@informatik.uni-kiel.dbp.de (Claus Assmann) writes:

>  Does anybody know how to get full control over the terminal like
> vi(1) does ?

vi(1) sends the terminal an escape sequence in order to put it into
what you're calling "raw mode".  In HP terms, you want to put the
terminal into "Transmit Functions" mode.  If you check the HP817's
terminfo database you will find that the terminal init string contains
an "\e&s1A" to put the terminal into Transmit Functions mode.

Good luck,
Christopher
--
 Christopher Rath   | crath@bnr.ca
 BNR Lab 5          |
 Ottawa, ON, Canada | "Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless gas which, given 
 (613) 765-3141     | enough time, turns into people." -- Henry Hiebert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: markd@csqx.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk
Subject: non-root mount
Organization: RHBNC
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 12:49:30 GMT


Please can anybody tell me what are the right parameters for
mount(2) in this situation:  HP9000/835, HP-UX8.0, HP CD-ROM 
drive on scsi bus?  The man page seems to say:

mount( const char *device, const char *directory, int read_only)

and I interpreted this as

mount( "/dev/dsk/c4d0s2", "/cdrom", 1)

but this call returns -1 and  errno = EBUSY

When I log in as root and do a similar interactive command:

mount /dev/dsk/c4d0s2 /cdrom

it works. Since  mount(1m)  presumably uses  mount(2)  I believe that
the man pages are omitting some vital piece of information. I have 
already gone through the procedure for adding  cdfs  support to the 
kernel and it didnt report any errors. The documents that came with
the cd drive say nothing about mount(2) and what they do say about
mount(1m) is inaccurate. I want to be able to allow ordinary users to
insert their own disks and mount them, so I fetched the  usermount
program that was described in a previous posting and adapted it to
run on HP-UX. It runs and successfully does mount and optical disk
using a similar call:

mount( "/dev/dsk/c2d0s2", "/optic", 0)

Our contact with Usenet is very tenuous and flaky. So if you see this 
and can help, please could you kindly send me a copy direct?

UHAH208  <at>  pluto.ulcc.ac.uk

Thankyou, Mark
From: stuart@TIVOLI.COM (Stuart Jarriel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: High-speed modems for SLIP usage on HPUX
Date: 31 Dec 92 19:26:15 GMT
Organization: Tivoli Systems, Inc


I am trying to determine the best price/performance of a dial-up modem
to be used on a HPUX system running SLIP.  I would love to hear how well
this has worked for other folks.  In particular, we will be running SLIP
on HPUX 700's, HPUX 800's, Sun Sparc2 w/SCSImux, PC's and Mac's, so any
relavent information on those is welcome.  As there are so many modems
available that it is hard to make an informed decision.  And to add to 
the complexities there are all sorts of SLIP-variants that work well
in some situations....

If you would be so kind as to e-mail I will summarize and post.  The results
may be interesting to many folks but I doubt all the details are.

The specifics I need are:

Hardware	
OS	
SLIP-software	
SLIP-config	
Interface/Speed	
Modem

an example would be:

HP710
HPUX 8.07
HPUX PPL
Default SLIP config
Serial Port A, 56K, 8bits, no parity
Telebit WorldBlazer

(2 710's back-to-back)

Also any limiting stories (ive seen some of the DTE-speed notes in this group)
would be nice to know (if you hit the limits on something!).

Thanks!
stuart
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: skenny@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Stephen Kenny)
Subject: tvtwm for HP-UX 8.07
Organization: DSG, Dept. of Computer Science, Trinity College Dublin
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 11:53:30 GMT

I have recently installed HP-UX version 8.07, and X11 Release 5 on our 
HP 9000 series 700 machine. Everything seems to work fine except 
for tvtwm.  I cannot get it to work properly on this machine.  (Twm, 
incidentally, works just fine).

Tvtwm compiles without problems  and appears to execute.  However, it appears
not to read the startup file .tvtwmrc properly.  None of the menu descriptions 
pop up when mouse buttons are pressed, icon managers don't show up etc.  
It gets a certain part of the way - surrounding windows with title bars, 
and that's about it.  

I tried using the gnu version of m4 but this didn't help.  I have little
experience of debuggers so xdb doesn't help me much.  This is the initial
output when xdb is run on the tvtwm executable:

65 hp2-% xdb ./tvtwm 
Copyright Hewlett-Packard Co. 1985,1987-1991. All Rights Reserved.
<<<< XDB Version A.08.07 HP-UX >>>>
No core file
It appears that there's no debugging information in ./tvtwm (UE445)
WARNING: /usr/lib/end.o was not linked with this program (UE836)
         Shared-library information cannot be made available (UE837)
(file unknown): _start: (line unknown)
>

Any help greatly appreciated.
Thanks,

Stephen

_____________
Stephen Kenny					    +---------------------+
System Manager, Distributed Systems Group	    * skenny@cs.tcd.ie    *
Dept. of Computer Science, Trinity College	    * +353 1 702 1222	  *
Dublin 2, Ireland				    +---------------------+
From: ec@fc.hp.com (Edgar_Circenis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: how to disable quota check at login???
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:31:54 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

fish@daacdev1.stx.com wrote:
> /etc/rc does not have the quota check in it and i am
> not using quotas so why does the system check for them???
> 
> anyway, i want to turn this off because every time the
> network has a problem (and thus my NFS mounted disks have
> a problem) quota hangs indefinately for some users and
> i have to kill their quota process and then everything
> continues on

To disable quota checking at login (entirely), this is a
quick fix that does the trick:

	chmod -x /usr/bin/quota

Edgar
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jthomas@nmsu.edu (James Thomas)
Subject: HP SupportLine patches
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 20:30:22 GMT

Hi all,

Who decides what SMALL subset of patches gets put on suppport.mayfield?  It
does seem to be maintained by someone (in the s800/8.X directory there are
several patches from October and one from 02-Dec), but the important ones
are not there (translation - "important"=="the one's I'm looking for" :-) .

The fbackup patch PHCO_0537 is there, and it says "superceded by 1132", but
1132 is NOT there.

The inetd patch is there for s700 (PHNE_0437) but NOT for s800 (PHNE_0436).

The vfork patch is NOT there (I didn't check s700).

Without usenet (thanks all !-) we would be in the dark or asking dumb
questions of support personnel.  Why doesn't HP decide that a half-hearted
test of Internet access doesn't give them much information on whether the
service is useful?

Jim Thomas (jthomas@wsmr-emh82.army.mil)

p.s., I'll skip the same question about why these patches are not listed in
the Software Response Bulletin either :-)  Or, come to think of it, maybe
these are related .....
--

Jim Thomas   jthomas@nmsu.edu   jthomas%midas@wsmr-emh89.army.mil
From: andrew@iem.com (Andrew Patterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: ALLBASE
Date: 22 Dec 92 19:30:09 GMT
Organization: IEM, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

You might try the Empress RDBMS.  This product includes a complete
SQL-based releational database package and is fairly inexpensive. The
last version that I evaluated had a fairly limited 4-GL and
apllication generater; however, it easily integrates with HP-UX. The
last quote I received for a single liscense running on a HP 9000/360
was $3,500 plus $1000 for a year of support.

Contact Empress at

            6401 Golden Triangel Drive
            Greenbelt, MD 20770
            tel. 301-220-1919
            fax. 301-220-1997

---
Andrew Patterson
andrew@iem.com




-- 



Regards,
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser)
Subject: Re: Binary Compatibility between 700 and 800 ??
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 20:59:14 GMT
Organization: a stone mountain of Kudzu

In <1992Dec31.190613.10019@panther.mot.com> sacks@panther.mot.com (Dennis Sacks) writes:

>Can I develop a program on a 700 and run it to an 800 without recompiling? Will
>I ever run into problems doing this?

>Any help will be appreciated.

You will need to compile your code for the lowest-common-denominator CPU on
which it will be executed.  Check out the "+DA" and "+DS" compile-line
options for cc(1), f77(1), or pc(1) for more details on how to compile
your code for the broadest-possible processor base.

--
=======================================================================
 Mike Reaser, Hewlett-Packard N. Amer. Response Center - Atlanta
 Internet:  mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com
=======================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jthomas@nmsu.edu (James Thomas)
Subject: VM performance in 8.0
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 21:16:18 GMT

Hi all :-(

What was the final vote on how to get 8.0 VM performance back up to the
level of 7.0?  There were posts on changing the timeslice kernel parameter,
installing the vfork patch, and various s700 patches.  What was the net
recommendation for a poor, old 16M 840?

Thanks and happy holidays :-)
Jim Thomas (jthomas@wsmr-emh82.army.mil)
--

Jim Thomas   jthomas@nmsu.edu   jthomas%midas@wsmr-emh89.army.mil
From: bohlkejh@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Low level SCSI format?
Date: 4 Jan 1993 05:05:51 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: bohlkejh@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: cornflower.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

Hi,
   I need to low level format my Seagate 1480 406M scsi drive and I would like  
to change the bytes/sec from 512 to 1024.  Does anyone know of a utility on any  
HP system (or any NeXT, Sun, DEC, PC, or even Macintosh) that will do the  
trick?

Thanks

Jon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.admin
From: dan@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Danilo Silva)
Subject: Convertion from 1/4 to DAT
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:16:46 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

We have some old sets of backup (in 1/4-inch cartridge tapes) that I 
would like to convert to DDS (DAT) tapes.

We need to do that for two main reasons: 
- We need to get rid of the cartridge autochanger.
- One DAT tape is much smaller and easier to store than sets of 8 
cartridge tapes.

Could somebody please give me a light on this problem? Please ...
THANKS in advance for any hints and have all a great 1993,

Dan Silva - dan@lamar.colostate.edu

			A description follows:
Hardware (HP9000-835, HP-UX 8.0):
========

FROM:
----
The old backups are store in sets of 8 cartridges. The device used was 
the HP 35401A ( 1/4-inch Cartridge Autochanger Tape Subsystem).

TO:
--
The new backups will be stored on DDS (DAT) tapes, and the device to 
be used is a HP 6400-1300s drive 
(1.3 GByte DAT drive).

Backup PROCEDURE:
================

The following procedure was used with the cartridges for backup:

/etc/fbackup -I /usr/adm/fbackupfiles/system.log -0uf - -g 
/users/root/backups/systemgraph | compress | tcio -oV -S 8 -l 1 

/dev/rct/c5d0s2

The retrieval process is the following:

tcio -i -l 1 -n 8 /dev/rct/c5d0s2 | uncompress | frecover -xf - -i 
FILENAME(s)

PROPOSED SOLUTION (which did NOT work):
=================  ------------------

Extract the whole compressed backup and re-direct it to the DAT drive 
(/dev/rmt/0m):

tcio -i -l 1 -n 8 /dev/rct/c5d0s2 > /dev/rmt/0m
From: stuart@TIVOLI.COM (Stuart Jarriel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: How can one boot into single-user mode on 9000/720?
Date: 29 Dec 92 22:23:00 GMT
Organization: Tivoli Systems, Inc

To boot a 700 into single-user mode...

Press ESC to stop the auto-boot.

When the list of boot devices is presented:

b PX ISL	(where X is your root disc)

And at the ISL> prompt:

ISL>  hpux -iS disc(;0)/hp-ux

The '-iS' are the flags to init which says come up single user.  The rest of
the command is what the bootprocess does automatically.

stuart
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp