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From: mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris)
Subject: Re: How to motivate peers in a quality circle?
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 03:19:57 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

A couple  of things that I noticed when  I was a QC leader are

* People like recognition. Not just saying to their face that
you notice, but saying it to someone else.

* Many people are afraid. I found that a large task that I faced
was keeping people from being overly critical of others ideas.
The self-confidence that people got from having ideas, having 
the ideas recognized and appreciated gave them a better
self-image. I don't know if this is true accross the board
but in my experience, those that had a better self-image contributed
more.


--
Mary E. S. Morris    |  The future exists first in imagination, then
mesm@netcom.COM      |  in will, then in reality. -- Galivan Burwell
=====================================================================
Netcom - Online Communication Services San Jose, CA
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: hatter@cs.utexas.edu (John Eichenseer)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Headhunters, recruiters wanted for Bay Area, Seattle, Boston
Date: 28 Aug 1992 17:59:05 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: needmore.cs.utexas.edu

Hello,

I am looking for recruiters and contractors in the following areas:

Seattle, WA
Bay Area (San Fransisco, esp.)
Austin, TX
Boston, MA

If anyone knows of people with whom I can get in touch regarding
this, please let me know. I am seeking employment in MIS, systems 
management, network administration, and software development with
an emphasis on Macintosh and UNIX, and over 3 1/2 years' experience. 

Thanks very much,

	John Eichenseer
	hatter@cs.utexas.edu
From: syspb@smartstar.com (Paul)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Jobs on in misc.jobs.offered
Date: 2 Sep 92 00:32:31 GMT
Organization: none

I have been looking in misc.jobs.offered for a System Administrator
position for about 1 year now.  I tried emailing my resume and sending
it by US mail.  Here are the results.  Hundreds of don't call us, we'll
call you letters, and 3 interviews.  2 of the interviews were at the 
same company 6 months apart.  None of the jobs posted there ever turned
into anything good.  I had a very low success rate - 0.  I did get a
few phone calls for contract positions, but I was looking for something
more permenant.  

The results of posting my resume in misc.jobs.resumes last week were
2 phone calls.  Both of them were for areas that I didn't want to 
relocate to.  Again a very low success rate - 0.  

There are lots of interesting jobs on the net.  Maybe I am not qualified
enough for some of them.  Just wanted to tell other people using the net
for finding employment about my experience.  Hope you have better luck
than I did.
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (macphil)
Subject: Re: Etiquette Regarding Present and Prospective Employers
Organization: IUPUI
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:21:50 GMT

In article <78879@ut-emx.uucp>
rajiv@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Rajiv Arora) writes:
>For myriad reasons, I am not happy with my current employment and am looking
>for jobs elsewhere.I have an interview coming up soon and I was wondering what
>the standard procedure is (if any) regarding telling prospective employers
>about my current employer.Specifically, that I would prefer that they not call
>my current employer until after I have terminated employment. This is for the
>obvious (and fairly common, I presume) reason that I do not wish my current
>employer to learn of my intention of leaving until I have another job in hand.
 
Some places still have people fill out applications and many of those have
a job history section along /c "May we contact them?" - that's easy enough
to communicate your feelings there.
 
During the interview, it's sure to be asked why you are wanting to leave
or why you are leaving, particularly if it's been for a short time or
for a very long time...I have run into a couple of places that didn't
ask and didn't care.
 
Remember that you are being evaluated not only for what you can do, but
often for your character.  If you trash your current employer, why
should the prospective employer think you will do any less for them
in the future when you leave?
 
It's easy to preface your reason(s) /c "I would prefer not to air dirty
laundry and I feel it's time for a change of pace which isn't readily
available to me in my current situation."
 
I know some who say "lie outright because others will as well and getting
the job is more important than being honest." but there is balance and
harmony in the universe and what goes around...
 
Don't beat around the bush as you'll look like you're hiding something.
From: mookherj@serss0.fiu.edu (The Happy Man)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Info Needed : AADT, DFW
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:12:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Florida International University, Miami

A friend has got a job offer with American Airlines Decision Technologies in
the DFW area. Anybody has any idea about the company, working conditions,
environment and growth prospects.

Please respond to mookherj@fiu.edu

Thanks in advance,
Jay Mookherje.
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Info wanted about WordPerfect
From: $garyf@SASB.BYU.EDU (Gary B. Fitzgerald)
Date: 2 Sep 92 11:02:04 -0700
Organization: Brigham Young University

>1.  Salaries.  Are they competitive?  

	Yes or No depending on the position.  Technical support positions do 
not pay at well.  However, some programming positions as well as field 
positions, and administrative positions pay very well.

>2.  Size of the company.  How many people work at WordPerfect?  Do the
>    managers manage people and projects or do they spend all their time playing
>    politics?

	The company is a mid-size company (quite large for the area), and is 
located in a nice area.  The managers for the most part can be political but 
are usually pretty good from what I've heard.

>3.  What is life like in Orem, Utah?  What about the cost of living 
like?  >    What are the schools like?>

	Life in Orem is quite nice, (rated No. 1 in the nation by Money 
magazine last year (8th this year)).  The neighborhoods are clean and safe, 
and it is quite comfortable.  The cost of living is dirt cheap, which makes 
a lower salary pretty easy to live off of.  The schools are sort of crowded, 
but are adequate.

>4.  What is the work environment like?  
>
	The work environment is very relaxed.  Most employees go to work in 
jeans and polo shirts.  So it isn't exactly stress filled.

>5.  Are they a market driven company or do they depend on there 
reputation to sell what they make?

	In the past WordPerfect has lived off of their name and been very 
successful.  However, there has been quite a shakeup there lately with a 
particular emphasis in foreign sales (over half of the new positions seem to 
require international skills).  There new attitude seems to be to accomodate 
the marketplace, (demonstrated by the Windows products they are now pushing 
which they never wanted to make).


>Thanks for any and all replies.
>
Your Welcome.


Gary
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: twolf@cs.utah.edu (Tom Wolf)
Subject: Re: Achievement Based Resumes
Date: 25 Aug 92 15:39:57 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Aug19.054316.8220@weyrich.UUCP> tnet.com!weyrich!orville writes:
>In article <1992Aug14.213501.23800@technology.com> judy@technology.com (Judy McMillin) writes:
>>o: cnmhnet!keithg
>>Subject: Re: Achievement based resumes
>>Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc,soc.women
>>In-Reply-To: <60@cnmhnet.UUCP>
>>References: <1992Aug6.080326.29855@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> <1992Aug11.203119.6887@wuecl.wustl.edu> <1992Aug12.123140.7980@cbnewsk.cb.att.com>
>>Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas
>>Cc: 
>>
>>I'm 48 and have been working since a teenager; I know what you mean about
>>job requirements becoming more and more stringent.  I believe 2 things 
>>account for this.  The first is that we are becoming much more technical or
>>maybe specialized is a better word in the workplace.  But second, and I
>>think probably the biggest reason, is screening.  These days, it seems there
>>are far more applicants for most jobs than employers want to bother sorting
>>through; so they up the requirements in order to reduce the number of
>>applicants.  I think technically that's not legal, but that it's pretty
>>common anyway.
>>
>>My personal "solution" is that it's time for the 32-hour work week.  This
>>would give everyone more time off and would probably reduce unemployment
>>quite a bit too.
>
>Or at least repeal the law that allows "highly compensated" people
>(like computer programmers) to be paid straight time for work over 40
>hours as opposed to overtime.
>

They get paid for working over 40 hours? I thought programmers &
engineers worked for free after 40 hours. At least just about everyone
I knew did.


Tom
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From: dlhpfm!dlh@NCoast.org (daniel lance herrick)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc,misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: Re: Questions on operating *very* small business
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 22:00:12 EDT
Organization: dlh Performance Marketing

grady@world.std.com (Dick Grady) writes:

> In article <1266@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM> lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Li
> >
> >Please inform me if there is a more appropriate newsgroup for this.
> 
> misc.entrepreneurs would be more appropriate. I have cross-posted, and
> re-directed follow-ups.
> 
> >I am considering starting a very small business venture.  This would
> >be a special-interest newsletter, mainly as a service but I want to
> >bring in enough to pay a little for my time.  The total profit would
> >be less than $2000 a year.
> >
> >My question is, if I have no employees do I have to go through any
> >kind of legal stuff, tax consequences, etc. to do this or can I just
> >compute the profit and declare it as "other income" on a regular tax form.

The practical answer is yes.  Until they audit you.

The definition of profit in the tax code is elaborate and the way you
would have to do the calculation is to work your way through Schedule
C.  Once you have done that, it is simpler to just file a complete
return.

> >I just don't want a whole lot of hassle over a few bucks.
> >
> >Any advice?
> 
> It will be business income, so you'll have to go through 
> "legal stuff, tax consequences, etc."  You'll have to use Schedule C
> to report any profit and/or loss.
> -- 
>             Dick Grady               grady@world.std.com

However, if you just declare it as other income from miscellaneous
sources and are reasonably honest about the calculations, the only
consequence of an audit would be a small adjustment of the tax in one
direction or the other and a slap on the wrist. 


dan  of dlh Performance Marketing  POBox 1419  Mentor Ohio 44061
       NCoast.org!dlhpfm!dlh or ab.com!dlhpfm.uucp!dlh   (216)974-9637
"`Bad, bad,' says the buyer; but when he goes his way, then he boasts."
Proverbs 20:14
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: ssimmons@convex.com (Steve Simmons)
Subject: >>>>> How to quit after 2 weeks?
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:55:23 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

> I have a problem (well not really to most people), about
> quiting after two weeks.
>
> My #3 choice for employment gave me an offer, I accepted.
> (After waiting ~ month for other responses from #1 and 2.)
> Then my #1 choice offered me a position, how should I
> handle this? I am somewhat hestitant to quit (guilty) after 
> they have spent these 2 weeks training me? I think I would
> like to change positions without burning too many bridges.

First, think twice.... Are you sure that the #1 choice is a better
position??? In the long term, you may find that your perceptions of 
a better job are rarely correct.  If you are in a good place for 
learning what you need, then sticking around is not such a bad idea. 

In fact, if you leave and your new fellow employees at company #1 hear 
about it, you will appear like a sleaze bag especially if the company #3
has a decent reputation.  If the jobs are in the same fields and in the 
same geographic locations, don't be surprised about how much gossip travels. 
The question is if the job at company #3 is a decent job.  If so, I would 
probably stay a fair amount of time (2-3 years at least).  There are 
many employers who are not fair and you should consider yourself fortunate
if you happen to find one who is. 

On the other hand, if this is not a good job without any potential,
then leave.  Business is business.  The company can fire you after
two weeks if they believed that don't like you. 

Anytime that you take a new job, there are many unknown variables.
Are you walking into a bad political situation???  Is there a new turnover
within the company's management???  Will your job description change
upon arrival????  Don't be scared.... These are just risks that you take. 

Thank you. 


					Steve Simmons 


Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: chinkev@elof.iit.edu (Kevin A. Chin)
Subject: How to quit after 2 weeks?
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 20:02:57 GMT

I have a problem (well not really to most people), about
quiting after two weeks.

My #3 choice for employment gave me an offer, I accepted.
(After waiting ~ month for other responses from #1 and 2.)
Then my #1 choice offered me a position, how should I
handle this? I am somewhat hestitant to quit (guilty) after 
they have spent these 2 weeks training me? I think I would
like to change positions without burning too many bridges.


Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil)
Subject: Re: Foreign Languages, usefulness and levels of qualification
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:35:48 GMT

magras@cps.msu.edu (Mr. Jean-Claude Magras) writes:


>Hello Newsreaders,

>I have been trying to teach myself the Russian language using a tape and
>two books plus some flashcards. I was wondering about the following...

>o Possible ways to setup such things as mutual tutorings in English and
>  Russian.

>o Are there any credential granting organizations for competentcy in a
>  foreign language out there? What is their address? Affiliations?

You might want to contact ACTFL: The AMerican Council on the Teaching of
Foreign Languages:

579 Broadway 
Hastings-on-Hudson NY 10706 914-478-2011

They would be able to tell you the information you're looking for.

>o I have a degree in Computer Science, what companies would be most 
>  interested in this combination of skills?   

>I'll be honest with you people, after nearly 14 months of post-degree
>unemployment, I'm working near fulltime at Burger King and I hate it.
>Yes, its money in my pocket but I feel my brain is being broiled along
>with the burgers and everythingelse.

You are not alone.  Believe me.

Sharon
oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu

Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: aldridge@netcom.com (Jacquelyn Aldridge)
Subject: Re: Headhunter Fees ?
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 09:54:10 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 


	Sounds like a scam to me. Real headhunters are paid by the company
doing the hiring.

	Also consider how much money they are asking for. Consider how much
work you'd have to work in hours to get that much money. Ask yourself if
you couldn't do better by looking for those jobs yourself. Have you put in
that many solid hours of work in searching yet. I guess at 30% that would
be about 700 hours of solid work, certainly no less than 600 hours. 

	Headhunters don't have any magic. At best they know someone in a
company who will ask them to look around for talent for them. But they are
really only in their best form in highly specialized, highly paid fields. 
When a headhunter finds a job for a person he/she is paid 20% (or more) of
the first year's salary. And it can be hard earned money. The company pays
it because they have cut out a lot of their own human resources overhead by
using headhunters and because they are committing to hiring a valuable
person. A newspaper ad could bring in hundreds of responses and each
response has to be evaluated. A headhunter reccommends 2 or 3 people,
pre-screened for qualifications. 
	
	But a company which is employed by the job seeker doesn't really
qualify as a headhunter. Its an employment agency. Rarely will an
employment agency send you to a job that you couldn't have found yourself.

	There is a third type of agency, those like Bernard Haldane who
"teach you to market yourself". They are selling you a service and the
question again is, is it worth the money? I wouldn't buy it myself. ?
From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Why do Americans get so little vacation time?
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:55:31 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA
Originator: daemon@sword.eng.pyramid.com

In article <10397@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk> jdaly@cs.strath.ac.uk (John W Daly CS89) writes:
>Hope I`m not restarting an original arguement - I haven`t read the
>articles here for a while - but do Americans receive paid holidays to the
>same extent the British do?  We receive about, on average I think, 25 -
>30 paid hlidays which can be taken throughout the year.  This doesn`t include
>Chrimbas time and Easter.  I was informed that Americans do not receive
>many payed holidays at all, and was wondering if this was true.
>
    You need to be careful with the terms....

    Most American (ok, USA) have 9-12 paid "holidays" per year.
    These are fixed days set to coincide with national holidays
    and/or for the convenience of the company.

    Most companies also offer 10 working days or more as "vacation"
    time which can be scheduled by the employee, subject to company
    approval.   Most also offer a seniority increase, as you work
    for the company longer you get additional days.  
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: cjb@canopus.Stanford.EDU (Cecil Bloch)
Subject: Re: Why do Americans get so little vacation time?
Reply-To: cjb@vega.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 17:43:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.040217.2456@weyrich.UUCP> orville%weyrich@tnet.com  
(Orville R. Weyrich) writes:
> >
> >What ever happened to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"?
> 
> 1) Some people enjoy their work.
> 

I do too, Orville, and I think one is fortunate indeed to find a job or a  
calling which affords you the opportunity for interesting and meaningful  
work. I also enjoy a lot of other things and I do not think it is  
unreasonable, self-indulgent, unproductive, or economically subversive to  
want some time during the course of my life to enjoy them -- "Life,  
liberty, and the pursuit of happiness".  It comes down to a question of  
balance; remember that quaint ancient Greek idiom about "a healthy mind in  
a healthy body"?  Much as I enjoy solving a challenging problem and  
crafting a fine and elegant solution to it, I know that my performance,  
attention, creativity and general state of mind deteriorate if I cannot  
take a break that is long enough to truly refresh and revitalise me.   
Nothing worthwhile is achieved without hard work and periods of intense  
focussed attention.  The issue isn't one of laziness, enjoyment or  
otherwise; its a question of giving a person some breathing space, for  
cryin' out loud. The free market ideology regards human beings as  
disposable commodities and has no need for such considerations since if  
employment is a market transaction the past, future, and humanity of that  
person are irrelevant to the job at hand. Burn 'em out and throw them  
away; others can be bought.  I place that on a level with slavery, fascism  
and communism.  Why two weeks vacation?  Why not one, or none at all?   
Wouldn't that be even better for productivity?  Its all a matter of where  
you think the line should be drawn, and that in turn rests on one's  
values.
From: REKHI@PURCCVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc,purdue.cc.general
Subject: Need a Programmer - Microsoft C & Windows
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:21:01 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

Need a Microsoft C and Windows Programmer. Please contact Prof. R. Plante
at 494-4464 for further details.
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: parkes@itp.ethz.ch (Andrew Parkes)
Subject: Re: Why do Americans get so little vacation time?
Organization: Institute for Theoretical Physics, ETH, Zuerich, Switzerland
	<ted.715364141@sage0>
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:44:12 GMT


In article <ted.715364141@sage0> ted@sage0.gsfc.nasa.gov (Ted Ying) writes:
[..deleted ..]
>	Americans, on average received 10 paid holidays and 2 weeks
>	paid vacation.  Which amounts to 20 days of vacation during
>	a year.  This is less than most other countries in the world.

Uh? So do Americans have 2 weeks vacation, or do they have 20 days vacation?  

As a poor old English-English speaker I have been reading this thread and all
the time not distinguishing holiday from vacation. So, the idea that Americans
work every weekday except for 10 a year seemed a bit harsh to say the least.
Having read this I now suppose that "holiday" means collective-choice days off
such as Xmas, whilst "vacation" refers to individual-choice days off not fixed
to some external event. Please correct this if I'm wrong.

[..deleted ..]
>	else should be your own responsibility.  I have done this in
>	the past with prearranged vacations (taken leave without pay).
[..deleted ..]
>	Ted Ying			ted@rosserv.gsfc.nasa.gov
>	Hughes/STX			Goddard Space Flight Center

NASA could be quite a singular case so I'd be interested to hear about the
general attitudes in industry to people taking pre-arranged unpaid leave.
For example, is it generally ok to take unpaid leave as long as you remain
on-call (in case problems arise that cannot be dealt with efficiently by
someone else).

Andrew Parkes,              | E-mail: parkes@itp.ethz.ch 
Theoretische Physik,        | 
ETH-Honggerberg,            |                           
CH-8093 Zurich, Switzerland.|                           
  
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