From: hernando@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (howard.a.teitelbaum)
Subject: RESULTS: Golden Oldies Lyrics Quiz #24
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:12:07 GMT
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RESULTS and ANSWER KEY for GOLDEN OLDIES LYRICS QUIZ #24

Congratulations to Barry Silk & Joe Haertel, who achieved only the second
perfect score in GOLQ history!  Jamie's Gang, The (Ron) Crandalls, and The
Schuberts also did splendidly, scoring 400+ points.  There were also strong
performances by Kathy, Norm, & Carol, and by Dan Murphy.  Special mention goes
to Jeff Wisniewski, who wasn't even born yet when all these songs were on the
charts.  Of course, thanks to everyone for entering.

GOLQ#25 will be posted shortly by Ron Crandall.

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Place   ID						      # on
   Score    Name <E-mail address>			      team   Age(s)
 01 500 BS- Barry Silk & Joe Haertel <bcsPRC.Unisys.COM>	2    39,41
 02 440 JG- Jamie's Gang <donuts0!jil@tbird.cc.bellcore.com>	4    32-40s
T03 400 RC- Ron, Sally, & Dave Crandall <RMC@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>	3    40,40,14
T03 400 RS- Rick & Kathy Schubert <rns@tortuga.sandiego.NCR.COM>2    39,43
 05 377 NC- Kathy, Norm, & Carol <crandall@iseeu.enet.dec.com>	3    35,36,37
 06 339 DM- Dan Murphy <danielm@tekgen.bv.tek.com>		1    38
 07 298 DG- The Old Folks at DG <cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com>	7    various
 08 290 BT- Bonnie Teitelbaum <no net access>			1    42
 09 289 BC- Bob Dorin, Chris Reeve, & Fla. connection
		<clr@ksr.com>					4    42,46,47,?
 10 260 JW- Jeff Wisniewski <jew43065@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>		1    19
 11 208 MH- Mike Hubbard & Team <76424.1703@CompuServe.COM>	3    40s
 12 168 UN- UNM <dave@carina.unm.edu>				6    mid 30's
 13 150 JA- John Altinbay <altinbay@alc.com>			1    40
T14 100 MB- Mike Bixenman <mikeb@macbeth.ocpt.ccur.com>		1    43
T14 100 SL- Steven Levine <steven@aspen.cray.com>		1    35
 16  80 CC- Charles Carraher <ccarrah@valhalla.cs.wright.edu>	1    28
 17  70 DF- Don Fausett <dfausett@zach.fit.edu>			1    51
T18  40 DE- Dave Ewing & Matt Courtois
		<ewing@tara.sandiegoca.NCR.COM>			2    36,37
T18  40 NW- New Wave Dave <damatt01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu>1    24
 20  20 TS- The TSD Team <kablooey@control.Spies.COM>		1    27

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The following table gives the individual scoring breakdown.  A '-' is
used to indicate that no guess was made for a question, whereas a zero
indicates that a completely incorrect response was submitted.

    Song#
ID  01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
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BS  20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
JG  20  0 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20  0 20 20 20 20  0 20 20 20 20 20 20
RC   0 20 20 20 20 20  0 20 20 20 20 20 20  -  - 20 20 20  - 20 20 20 20 20 20
RS  20  0 20 20 20 20  0 20 20 20 20 20 20  0 20 20  0 20  - 20 20 20 20 20 20
NC   -  - 20 20 20 20  - 18 20 20 20 20 20  - 20  - 20 20 20 20 20 20  - 19 20
DM   - 20 20 20 20 20  - 20 20 20 20  -  - 20 20  -  -  -  - 20 19 20 20 20 20
DG   -  -  - 20 20 20  -  - 20  - 20 20 20  0 20  - 20 20  -  - 20 20 20 18 20
BT  10  - 20 20  - 20  - 20 20  - 20 20  - 20  -  - 20  0  -  - 20 20 20 20 20
BC   0  - 20 20 20 20  9 20 20 20  -  -  -  -  - 20  - 20  -  - 20 20 20 20 20
JW   -  -  - 20 20 20  - 20 20  - 20  - 20  -  -  -  -  0  - 20 20 20 20 20 20
MH   - 10  - 20 19  -  -  - 20 19 20  - 10  -  -  0  - 10  -  - 20 20 20 20  0
UN   0  -  - 20 20  -  -  - 20  - 20  - 10  -  -  -  -  -  -  - 10 20 20 18 10
JA   -  - 10 20  -  -  -  -  - 20 20  -  -  - 10  -  - 10  -  -  - 20 20  - 20
MB   -  - 10 20 20  -  - 20  -  -  -  -  - 10  -  -  -  -  -  -  - 10  - 10  -
SL   - 10  - 20  -  -  - 20  - 20  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  - 10  -  - 20  -
CC   -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  - 20 20  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  - 20 20  -  0
DF   -  -  - 20  - 20  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  - 20 10  -  0  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
DE   -  -  - 20  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  - 20  -  -
NW   -  -  - 20  -  0  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  - 20  -  -
TS   0  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  0  -  -  -  -  -  - 20  -  -
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And now the answers to Golden Oldies Lyrics Quiz #24, in the form:

#number) Artist -- "Title" (year) [peak position on Billboard Chart]
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Everybody's doing it whether they are old or young
Because they're tired of doing the monkey
Tired of doing the swim
#01) Candy & The Kisses -- "The 81" (1964/65) [51]

When you leave me
My golden rainbow disappears
And you leave me
A broken heart that's full of tears
#02) The Caravelles -- "You Don't Have to Be a Baby to Cry" (1963/64) [3]
[Originally recorded by Tennessee Ernie Ford in 1956, as the B-side to "Sixteen
Tons."]

I wanna tell you pretty baby
Your lips look sweet
I'd like to kiss them
But I can't break away
#03) The Cookies -- "Chains" (1962/63) [17]
[Covered by The Beatles in '63.  Jamie's Gang reported that The Cookies did
back-up vocals on Little Eva's "Locomotion."]

I hear hurricanes a-blowing
I know the end is coming soon
I fear rivers overflowing
I hear the voice of rage and ruin
#04) Creedence Clearwater Revival -- "Bad Moon Rising" (1969) [2]
[Several people noted that the refrain of this song sort of sounds like
"There's a bathroom on the right" instead of "There's a bad moon on the rise."
I've always been amused by (lead singer) John Fogerty's ersatz Cajun
pronunciation (e.g., "Proud Mary keep on boinin'"), since he's from
California.]

My lover stands on golden sands
And watches the ships that go sailing
#05) Bobby Darin -- "Beyond the Sea" (1960) [6]
[Originally written and recorded in 1945 by Charles Trenet as "La Mer," with
French lyrics; English lyrics were written in 1947.  A hit for Benny Goodman
in 1948.]

Your sweet chimes
Love to hear
Bring my baby
Oh, my baby back to me
#06) The Dell-Vikings -- "Whispering Bells" (1957) [9]

Ask me for the world
It doesn't seem much
Ask me for the moon, dear
And I'll reach out to touch
#07) The Dubs -- "Don't Ask Me (To Be Lonely)" (1957) [72]

They used to laugh about dying
But deep inside them they knew
That pretty soon they'd be lying
Beneath the ground together
#08) Georgie Fame -- "The Ballad of Bonnie and Clyde" (1968) [7]
[Fame's real name is Clive Powell.]

She used to love me, that I know
And it don't seem so long ago
That we were walking
And we were talking
The way lovers do
#09) The Fortunes -- "You've Got Your Troubles" (1965) [7]
[The Crandalls noted: "The Fortunes fell out of favor (in England at least)
after they revealed that they had used session players on their records (sort
of the Milli Vanilli of the British Invasion :-))."]

You think she's a prize at the start
But take my advice, play it smart
She's nothing but trouble
Better cut out on the double
Before she gets into your heart
#10) Herman's Hermits -- "A Must to Avoid" (1965/66) [8]
[The Schuberts pointed out that lead singer Peter Noone was originally
nicknamed "Sherman" for his apparent resemblance to the character on the Rocky
& Bullwinkle Show; his nickname somehow evolved later into "Herman."]

You were always something special to me
Quite independent, never caring
You lost your charm as you were aging
Where is your magic disappearing?
#11) The Hollies -- "Carrie-Anne" (1967) [9]
[Jamie's Gang noted that The Hollies had more hits in Britain than any other
group, including the Beatles.]

I know I shouldn't want to keep you
If you don't want to stay
Until you've gone forever
I'll be holding on for dear life
#12) Chuck Jackson -- "Any Day Now (My Wild Beautiful Bird)" (1962) [23]
[Covered by Percy Sledge (1969) and Ronnie Milsap (1982).  The Schuberts
mentioned that Jackson was with The Dell-Vikings at one time.]

Hearts go astray
Leaving hurt when they go
I went away just when you, you needed me so
#13) Robert Knight -- "Everlasting Love" (1967) [13]
[Carl Carlton's 1974 version went to #6.]

Oh, I would be glad
Just to have a love like that
Oh, I would be true
And I'd live my life for you
#14) Billy J. Kramer with The Dakotas -- "From a Window" (1964) [23]
[Written by Lennon & McCartney.  Group was managed by Beatles' manager Brian
Epstein.]

I've been told
Baby, you've been bold
I won't be your fool no more
#15) Little Richard -- "Slippin' and Slidin' (Peepin' and Hidin') (1956) [33]
[Flip side of "Long Tall Sally."]

Come on, take me by the hand
Tell me I'm your lover man
We'll have fun, just we two
You for me, me for you
#16) Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers -- "I Want You to Be My Girl" (1956) [13]
[The Exciters released a gender-reversed version in 1965 called "I Want You to
Be My Boy."]

No rabbits in his hat
No pigeons up his sleeve
#17) The Marvelettes -- "My Baby Must Be a Magician" (1967/68) [17]
[Written by Smokey Robinson.]

The moon and stars no longer shine
The dream is gone I thought was mine
There's nothing left for me to do
But cry-y-y-y over you
#18) Guy Mitchell -- "Singing the Blues" (1956/57) [1]
[His real name is Al Cernik.]

I wouldn't try to own your soul
You can be free
I only want you here each night loving me
#19) The Peppermint Rainbow -- "Will You Be Staying After Sunday" (1969) [32]

I can't live without you
I love everything about you
I can't help it if I feel this way
#20) The Ronettes -- "Baby, I Love You" (1963/64) [24]
[The 1969 version by Andy Kim went to #9.]

You, with your masquerading
And you, always contemplating what to do
In case happiness found you
Can't you see that it's all around you?
So follow me
#21) Crispian St. Peters -- "The Pied Piper" (1966) [4]
[Crispian's real name is Peter Smith.  The song was originally released in 1965
by the song's composers, in a group called The Changin' Times.]

It's not the way you smiled that touched my heart
It's not the way you kiss that tears me apart
#22) The Shirelles -- "Baby It's You" (1961/62) [8]
[Covered by The Beatles in 1963, and by the group Smith in 1969.]

Seasons change with the scenery
Weaving time in a tapestry
Won't you stop and remember me
At any convenient time
#23) Simon & Garfunkel -- "A Hazy Shade of Winter" (1966/67) [13]
[The Bangles' 1987 version, which hit #2, was featured in the movie "Less than
Zero."]

How can Mary tell me what to do
When she lost her love so true?
And Flo, she don't know
'Cause the boy she loves is a Romeo
#24) The Supremes -- "Back in My Arms Again" (1965) [1]
[Names are those of The Supremes' backing vocalists, Mary Wilson and Flo
Ballard.]

Emptiness
Is a place you're in
With nothing to lose
But no more to win
#25) The Walker Brothers -- "The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine (Anymore)" (1966) [13]
[Three unrelated guys; none named "Walker," of course.  Although American, they
were much more successful in the U.K. than in the States.  Several people
guessed "Incense and Peppermints," which has a similar lyric:
	"Who cares what games we choose
	 Little to win, but nothing to lose"
Since "Incense and Peppermints" was used on a previous quiz (#6), and the
rules don't allow songs to be re-used, I've posted an updated song index to
help those without an archive of previous quizzes rule out already-used
songs.]

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For those who haven't changed channels yet, here is the ranking of the songs
from most recognized to least recognized.  The second column indicates the
average number of points scored on that song (total points divided by number
of entrants).

Rank  Avg.  Song
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 01  18.00  #04) Creedence Clearwater Revival -- "Bad Moon Rising" (1969) [2]
 02  16.00  #23) Simon & Garfunkel -- "A Hazy Shade of Winter" (1966/67) [13]
 03  14.50  #22) The Shirelles -- "Baby It's You" (1961/62) [8]
 04  13.25  #24) The Supremes -- "Back in My Arms Again" (1965) [1]
 05  13.00  #11) The Hollies -- "Carrie-Anne" (1967) [9]
 06  12.00  #09) The Fortunes -- "You've Got Your Troubles" (1965) [7]
T07  11.95  #05) Bobby Darin -- "Beyond the Sea" (1960) [6]
T07  11.95  #21) Crispian St. Peters -- "The Pied Piper" (1966) [4]
 09  11.50  #25) The Walker Brothers -- "The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine (Anymore)"
		(1966) [13]
 10  11.00  #06) The Dell-Vikings -- "Whispering Bells" (1957) [9]
 11  10.95  #10) Herman's Hermits -- "A Must to Avoid" (1965/66) [8]
 12  10.90  #08) Georgie Fame -- "The Ballad of Bonnie and Clyde" (1968) [7]
 13   9.00  #03) The Cookies -- "Chains" (1962/63) [17]
T14   8.00  #18) Guy Mitchell -- "Singing the Blues" (1956/57) [1]
T14   8.00  #13) Robert Knight -- "Everlasting Love" (1967) [13]
 16   7.50  #15) Little Richard -- "Slippin' and Slidin' (Peepin' and Hidin')
		(1956) [33]
T17   7.00  #20) The Ronettes -- "Baby, I Love You" (1963/64) [24]
T17   7.00  #12) Chuck Jackson -- "Any Day Now (My Wild Beautiful Bird)"
		(1962) [23]
 19   6.00  #17) The Marvelettes -- "My Baby Must Be a Magician" (1967/68) [17]
 20   5.50  #16) Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers -- "I Want You to Be My Girl"
		(1956) [13]
 21   4.00  #02) The Caravelles -- "You Don't Have to Be a Baby to Cry"
		(1963/64) [3]
T22   3.50  #01) Candy & The Kisses -- "The 81" (1964/65) [51]
T22   3.50  #14) Billy J. Kramer with The Dakotas -- "From a Window" (1964) [23]
 24   2.45  #07) The Dubs -- "Don't Ask Me (To Be Lonely)" (1957) [72]
 25   2.00  #19) The Peppermint Rainbow -- "Will You Be Staying After Sunday"
		(1969) [32]


A few observations:

* "A Hazy Shade of Winter" was very well known for a non-Top-10 record.  I'd
attribute this to Simon & Garfunkel being album-oriented, so their songs are
better known than the sales of their singles would indicate.

* Contemporaries "Singing the Blues" and "Slippin' and Slidin' were ranked
almost equally, despite the disparity in their chart positions (1 vs. 33).
I'm sure this has to do with airtime on oldies stations.  "Singing the Blues"
has a pre-rock pop feel, and so gets played less frequently.  ANYTHING by
Little Richard is quintessential early rock-n-roll, so it gets played a lot.

* "You Don't Have to Be a Baby to Cry" ranked low for a song that hit #3.
Again, probably little airplay today due to the treacly pre-rock-style
arrangement.


-- Howard Teitelbaum (hat@floyd.att.com)