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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Alternative Nation
From: wildcard@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:42:47 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

In article <ibhan.726204196@husc.harvard.edu>, ibhan@husc8.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan) writes:
> What do y'all think of MTV's new show?  How do you think it compares to
> 120 Minutes?

I think it is a cheap ploy by MTV to cash in on the sudden popularity of
alternative music.  They don't play enough the obscure bands like 120 does.

-Thomas R. Foss
Wildcard@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
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>            "The sky and the impossible explode..." -The Cure
From: jens_alfke@gateway.qm.apple.com (Jens Alfke)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Jane's Addiction Trivia
Date: 12 Jan 93 01:45:37 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer

In article <1iso6nINNn2q@shelley.u.washington.edu> Christopher Volinsky,
volinsky@thelma.stat.washington.edu writes:
>I happened to see the video for "Classic Girl" the other night and was 
>wondering a few things.  In the video, Perry and his woman (who is she?)
are 
>going through some sort of ceremony..it looks like a wedding ceremony
but its 
>kind of strange..like some kind of cult thing.  During the ceremony, the
woman
>has something done to her hand or arm, but the screen is blurred
partially so 
>we can not exactly see what is being done to her.  Does anybody know
what this 
>ritual is??? Or if they are 'legally' married??

This is a Santeria marriage ceremony that they went through in 1990 (I
think). Santeria is a fusion of Catholicism and Yoruba (African)
religious beliefs, very big in Brazil. Similar to voodoo, another
Afro/European mixture.
The "something done to her hand or arm" is probably some kind of
ceremonial wounding (Santeria is really big on blood) that they couldn't
show on MTV...
As to whether it's a legal marriage ... if they filled out the right
forms and had someone who's a legally ordained minister at the ceremony,
it's legal. In these days of the Universal Life Church, that's pretty
easy to do.

--Jens Alfke
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From: Chuck Tomlinson <chuck@ssc.space.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: Jazz Butcher  Condition Blue
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:31:33 GMT

In article <1id1cbINNgh2@moe.ksu.ksu.edu> David Iverson,
diverson@phys.ksu.edu writes:

>I really like the album.  It's smooth and suave as JB's ever been.  It's
a
>whole lot better than Cult of the Basement and I realized why.  You see,
>it's becuase Max Eider (Mr. Fabulous Guitar Player Extrodanaire) left the
>band after ? "Gotta let this hen out"  (?!?)  and on "Cult of the
Basement"


Wait! "Gotta Let This Hen Out" is the live Robyn Hitchcock release from
'85, which also has an companion video tape of the same live performance
at the Marquee Club in London. Both are imports only, I'm afraid.

Re: Jazz Butcher: Does anyone know if the US compilation release "Bloody
Nonsense" has ever been released on CD?

chuck
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From: Chuck Tomlinson <chuck@ssc.space.umn.edu>
Subject: God's Favorite Band/Rex Daisy
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:51:15 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.160102.6987@news.uiowa.edu> Kent Williams,
williams@herky.cs.uiowa.edu writes:

>What about God's Favorite Band???  I saw them play in Iowa City and they
>were great -- Power Pop driven by offhanded guitar virtuosity.

"Guitar virtuosity"? You've got to be kidding.

I caught these guys at the Uptown Bar here in Mpls. the day after
Christmas, and your statement is true only if "volume" = "virtuosity".
The only song that caught my attention was such a blatant Nirvana
rip-off, we were calling it "Smells Like X-mas Spirit."

If you're looking for Power Pop in the vein of Big Star, T. Rex, etc,
check out Rex Daisy, who moved to the Twin Cities from Des Moines, I
believe. To each their own, but God and I do not have the same favorite
band.

chuck
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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Re: HAPPENING LOCAL MUSIC SCENES
Keywords: USA music scenes
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: The Bates Motel
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 03:48:18 GMT

don@tse.uucp (Don Marks) writes:
>
>We have an excellent local scene here in Toronto, Canada.  The thing
>is (and its a good thing), there is no real Toronto sound; we have a
>little of everything: ska, roots rock, folk, pop, industrial, thrash,
>etc.  A lot of local acts are doing well enough to be putting out
>independent releases.  Paul Raven (of Killing Joke, Pigface) is
>starting up an indie label here so some international exposure may
>result.

I lived in Toronto for a couple of years in the mid-to-late 80's and
was amazed at the breadth and depth of the local scene there.  What
amazed me even more was that local bands will come and go without any
national exposure in Canada, let alone be discovered for the American
and/or international markets (the former involves internal some A&R
politics within the major labels, though) -- many of them far better
than some counterparts on the charts (i.e., we're not only talking
alternative here -- reggae, cabaret, you name it).  Lots of bars and
venues, easily rivalling the metro New York and Boston areas.  The
modern music scene is the biggest thing that I miss about Toronto.

gld
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From: jeanette@hpmcaa.mcm.hp.com (Jeanette Skelton)
Subject: Re: Top 10 Pixies Song
Organization: HP Cardiology Business Unit - McMinnville, OR
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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 20:59:25 GMT

winter@sask.usask.ca wrote:
> Here's my list of the Top 10 Pixies songs...  Feel free to rant at me 
> 1) Gouge Away (Doolittle)
...etc.

Gigantic
Dead
Tame
Cactus
Bone Machine
Break My Body
River Euphrates
I Bleed
Monkey Gone to Heaven
Hey

...although I like most of what they do. I can't believe no one's
mentioned Gigantic yet!

Jeanette
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From: pecot@wam.umd.edu (J.M. Pecot)
Subject: Re: Television -- together again?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 03:54:47 GMT

In article <C0G9r6.674@acsu.buffalo.edu> feit@acsu.buffalo.edu (Elissa Feit) writes:
>Speaking of Television, I just saw a double cd, priced $26, called
>_The Blow Up_, which are the "Roir Sessions", whatever they are...
>
>The cds are made in Austria, by Danceteria. Is this an import?
>bootleg? what?
>
  Wow! I just saw this today too.  I believe that it is a live album, recorded
  around the time of Adventure.  I saw it on cassette a few years ago. (Roir
  used to only release on cassette)  Now, however, they are releasing a bunch
  of their stuff on CD.  I don't believe that it is an import, because the 
  store I saw it at is very diligent about marking imports as such, and this
  wasn't marked as one. (Also, I wasn't increadibly overpriced, like most
  imports are.)  I don't have it, but I would assume it would be pretty good.
From: chrisb@lynx.ps.uci.edu (Chris Barrus)
Subject: Re: Bryan Ferry
In-reply-to: bernie@tagsun.med.utoronto.ca's message of Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:01:04 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Organization: Dept. of Physics, Univ. of California, Irvine
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:53:15 GMT


In article <1993Jan12.230104.24108@epas.toronto.edu> bernie@tagsun.med.utoronto.ca (Bernie Charlton) writes:

	Can anyone identify the song (and tell me what album it's from) by
   Bryan Ferry in which the chorus runs something like:
    "is your love strong enough, like a rock in the sea..."?
   e-mail answers would be fine... Thanx
   BC

=================================

The song is called "Is Your Love Strong Enough" and can be found on
the soundtrack to the movie "Legend."  Also features some nifty guitarwork
from David Gilmour.

Chris
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From: enriquek@ucs.orst.edu (everyday oozer)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Goatmen
Date: 5 Jan 1993 21:57:01 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucs.orst.edu

Has anybody ever heard of this band (Goatmen)???  Any info would be
appreciated.  I hear they recently reunited and maybe put out
a new album?  

thanx,
Kelly 


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From: cliff@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Cliff Chen)
Subject: WDRE Top 300 Request
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:54:54 GMT

	Now that Philadelphia has access to a GOOD radio station, WDRE, I
was wondering if anyone has obtained the list of their Top 300 songs which
they played on New Year's Eve thru New Year's Day.
	And if they would be willing to type it up and post it.

				Cliff Chen
				cliff@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
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From: lucchesi@wam.umd.edu (Rob Lucchesi)
Subject: who sings ???
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:43:38 GMT


Hi,

I've heard this song a cuople of times on the local college station and I
was wondering who sang it.  So who sings "She likes to make love to Led
Zeppelin" ?

Rob
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From: stevekim@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Steven Kim)
Subject: Peace&Love, Inc. - 12th Track
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 02:57:40 GMT

	Hello!  This is my first time postingto a newsgroup, so please 
forgive me if it's a bit roughshod...
	Anyways, I just got a CD copy of Information Society's "Peace and
Love, Inc." and I was wondering what the 12th track of the disc - 300BPS N,
8, 1 (terminal mode or ascii download), reveals once
it's downloaded.  Obviously, it's computer data, but I have no idea of how
to download it or anything.  Can someone clue me in on this thing?  I doubt
that they would just throw three minutes of junk on the end of the CD, but
who knows...

	Thanks in advance,
	Steve
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: ctatro@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (kristoff)
Subject: Re: NIN: Fixed - is it worth it?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:31:03 GMT

Just wanted to say thanks to all who responded to my inquiry about this disc.  
Unfortunately, as I went out to buy it yesterday, I was informed that it only
had one print run and is impossible to find now.  Hurm. Any word on a 
re-issuing?
Anyone have a copy they want to sell?

kristoff
From: Cannam@sc.ZIB-Berlin.de (Chris Cannam)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Looking for Swans/Jarboe reviews
Date: 11 Jan 93 10:24:32
Organization: Konrad Zuse Zentrum fuer Informationstechnik Berlin
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In-reply-to: nave@math.washington.edu's message of 10 Jan 1993 22:14:36 GMT


In article <1iq74cINN3lr@shelley.u.washington.edu> nave@math.washington.edu (Lee Nave) writes:

|  I'm hoping someone out there can give me their impressions of the
|  last Swans and Jarboe albums to come out.  I'm itching to pick up
|  a CD or 2 and have my eye on these.  I have Children of God and
|  Burning World, both of which I thoroughly enjoy.


I don't know about the new live (or whatever) Swans thing, though it's
probably just `all right' (judging by the track listing) -- anyone
comment? -- but just for the record:

`Love of Life' is excellent, like a denser `Burning World', not so
folky, though it doesn't get anything like as tortured as any of the
earlier albums;

`White Light from the Mouth of Infinity' is similar but a bit less
interesting;

`Body to Body, Job to Job' is the older Swans through & through (as
per the recently rereleased `Cop', `Filth' &c.): not music to be
enjoyed with a hangover (and no Jarboe);

and as for Skin, all I have is `Blood, Women, Roses', which has a few
good songs but which probably isn't really worth the money.


None of the above is as good as `Children of God'.

							Chris

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           minds and replace it with with poetry; on sighting poets it should
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From: russell@gill.micro.umn.edu (David Alan Russell)
Subject: Re: NIN: Fixed - is it worth it?
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis: Under Grad Workstation Lab.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:17:04 GMT

In <93011.133109JDUBIN@auvm.american.edu> Jeff Dubin <JDUBIN@auvm.american.edu> writes:

>Acc'd to "the" new release list, The new NIN is due in MARCH and is titled
>"The Downward Spiral"
>No info if this is a full length, PHM-ish type thing, or an EP like Broken

  The people at Interscope say that "The Downward Spiral" has been delayed
until at least summer.

 - Dave

   
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: SST (was "U2 Negativland"
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 19:00:15 GMT
Organization: Usenet Power Elite: Crush-The-Innocent-Newbies Strike Team

stephane.gelinas@synapse.org (Stephane Gelinas)  writes:

> I heard that they didn't pay all the royalties they should to artists. 
> Mmm, that may be due to the fact that they are sloppy businesspeople,  
> but they also might be crooks.

I think that not paying artists the royalties you owe them makes you a crook,
period,  whether it's out of malice or just simple stupidity.  Given the 
number of outright lies that have come out of SST since the Island/U2 
nonsense started, it's hard not to think Ginn has a malicious streak.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: rob@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Rob Vaughn,302 Thurston Hall,50637,2730428)
Subject: Re: "U2 Negativland" shirts
Originator: rob@snoopy.msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:52:54 GMT

Malcolm:

> It's a play on the SST slogan - SST has grown into a huge company that 
> employs up to 30 or more people and with assets of 5 million $. They've
> ripped off at least a few bands by constantly repackaging older works that
> they no longer have the rights to release. They are being sued by The 
> Meat-Puppets, I think.

Sonic Youth also sued them when they signed to DGC for not paying any
royalties for years.  A copy of the legal letter was published in their
fan club newsletter with all the addresses blacked out, and "Kitty Poo
Records" substituted for SST.  I think SY has gotten all rights back
since they'll be re-releasing everything from _Confusion is Sex_ to
_Daydream Nation_ on DGC in 1993.

Rob

-- 

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From: lim7@ellis.uchicago.edu (robert  lim)
Subject: Re: Ride
Reply-To: lim7@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:16:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan08.200959.23045@rose.com> greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp) writes:
>
>Date Entered: 01-08-93 14:58
>Quoted From: mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk
>> 
>> Firstly, the next Ride LP is going to use keyboards instead of guitars a la
>> their cover of Kraftwerk's "The Model".  This may see Ride expand their range
>> somewhat.
>>    Secondly, the Ride/Charlatans double bill bashes at Blackpool and Brighton
>> [...]  
>
>  Keyboards instead of guitars ... really?  This is surprising, 
>considering how central the guitars are to most of their songs 
>(although the drumming must also be mentioned as excellent).  I 
>noticed more use of keyboards on 'Going Blank Again' (ie. in _Leave 
>Them All Behind_) than any other their other releases.

ugh.  consider me old fashioned  if you must, but after hearing
the massacre of chrome waves aft4er they added keyboards, the
notion of ride bec oming a keyboard band is revolting.

and i used to consider ride the saviour of guitar-pop- loud and
organic.  did anyone else dislike their use of tapes in concert?

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From: lancer@joseph.WPI.EDU (Stephe Lewis Foskett)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Poppies
Date: 6 Jan 93 16:27:18
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In-reply-to: itch@cbnews.cb.att.com's message of Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:19:55 GMT

>>>>> "itch" == richard.m.brack  <itch@cbnews.cb.att.com> writes:
itch> Oh, I didn't know "Everything That Rises" was a cover.  I really
itch> like this song.  It also appears on the _There Is No Love
itch> Between Us Anymore_ CD single in case anyone cares.

"Everything That Rises Must Converge" was written by Shriekback.  The
original can be found on their album, Oil and Gold [Island CD 7
90276-2, 1985].  It's a great song either way (and Shriekback does it
FAR differently!) but I think the Poppies take the day here, too...

As for another question, where the heck can I get a copy of
"everything..."?  It's not on my CD of "NFaF"...  I heard it as a
B-side to "LMF111"...

Or do all Americans just suck?

.s.
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From: stephane.gelinas@synapse.org (Stephane Gelinas) 
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Cathedral of tears
Date: 9 Jan 93 11:34:00 GMT
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Reply-To: stephane.gelinas@synapse.org (Stephane Gelinas) 

I'm a big fan of pre-1984 TSOL (ie with Jack Grisham and NOT Joe Wood).

I have never known why Grisham and Barnes left TSOL.  Anyone know what
happened?

Anyway, I heard that Jack played for a while in a band called Cathedral of
Tears.  I believe that they issued an EP on the now defunct Enigma record
label.  Did they release anything else?  How does it sound?

Also, Jack's new band is called _Tender Fury_.  Did they release anything
else than "If anger were soul I'd be James Brown"?  If so, is it better than
this album (let's face it: it can't compare to TSOL).

Also, the real members of TSOL reunited to do a 'live' CD in 1991.  Do they
have any other plans, or was the show just to support 'Roaches heroin
addiction'?  (so I heard!).

Thanks...
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From: kbennett@sumax.seattleu.edu ( Slacker Goddess)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: need a title and group
Date: 5 Jan 1993 08:59:18 -0800
Organization: Seattle University
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In article <1993Jan5.151648.4401@ultb.isc.rit.edu> smb3565@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>I borrowed this tape from a friend of mine which is a mix of stuff but I have
>no idea who sings most of the songs, so you will be hearing from me some more
>in the short future but I can only think of one of the top of my head that I am
>really interested in, and the chorus is easy and goes like this ...
>
>"She loves me, she loves me not"
>
>That just repeated a few times for the chorus...
>
>
>					-Sean

Well that could probably be a lot of things but if the song is a really
hard driving one with loud drum machines and crashing guitar, very
rhythmic, then it would be Pop Will Eat Itself "Wise Up Sucker" from _This
is the Day_ which I also agree (to follow the recent Poppies thread) is
their best album (and the only one I like).

Lena
      kbennett@sumax.seattleu.edu

      "Well, I'd call myself an artist
      If I could make these feelings clear
      But there's a million things to think about
      When you're cutting off your ear."
          	--Game Theory
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Tuesday, 12 Jan 1993 15:08:26 EST
From: Tale as old as time, Beauty and...... <IO21146@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Requests?
 <1993Jan12.160902.21022@news.uiowa.edu>

Actually the reason I am doing an alternative radio show is because my major
is journalism and I am trying to decide what part of it I want to go into,
who knows if I don't like the music, I've never listened to it before. Anyways
its there for educational purposes not just for someone who wants to do a radio
show. Anyways I like to speak to people, I think I will like radio broadcasting

Wish me luck!! :)
My show starts this Thursday, 9-11 AM on WMEB----The Only Alternative

-Swiss
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Subject: Re: songs with rain..
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:11:17 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-05-93 11:04
Quoted From: brenta@microsoft.com (Brent Aliverti)

> 
> In article <1993Jan4.122341.25860@syma.sussex.ac.uk> mpuf6@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Mark Constable) writes:
> >
> >'Don't rain on my parade' - Japan (Adolescent sex)
> >
> 
> I think Barbara Streisand also sang this tune in the 60's (although I prefer
> Japan's version also)
> 
> here's another...
> 
> Rain - The Waterwalk  (a fine Canadian folk/pop band)
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>   Brent Aliverti                              
>   brenta@microsoft.com                          
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>

The Charlatans - (No One) Not Even the Rain

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