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   From: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
   Reply-To: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
   Organization: Canada Remote Systems
   Distribution: soc
   Date: 28 Dec 92 15:04:27 EST
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    "faraz rabbani" (faraz.rabbani@canrem.com) wrote:
    RR> : But the issue is not whether they are better off than in other
    RR> : places, but how they fare in India...  the Ayodhya issue, and now
    RR> : the threats to assail the Taj Mahal, shows how much their rights (as
    RR> : granted by the Supreme Court) can be quashed by a determined
    RR> : majority... sad... But I have hope...

    To which rajesh@juniper (Rajesh Raman) replied:

    RR> I'm sorry that I didn't make it more explicit. I meant that such
    RR> things ( things that were happening to Muslims in India ) happen all
    RR> over the world and shouldn't be blown out of proportion. I don't
    RR> know about too much about the state of the minorities in Pakistan but
    RR> I unerstand that they are not in too good a shape. This is borne out
    RR> from what happened in reaction to the destruction of the mosque in
    RR> India. This is not to say that the lot of Muslims in India shouldn't
    RR> be improved. Education and health should be the prime areas of focus
    RR> and not religion.

   Exactly, but the PRESENT CRISIS at Ayodhya was started by Hindus,
   not Muslims (who liked where the Mosque *was*)...

   And 1200 people (mostly Muslim shot by a mostly Hindu police force)
   don't die in a week over a religious issue where a minority's
   GRANTED right denied "all over the world"...

    RR> One of the reasons for the destruction of the mosque was the view
    RR> amongst Hindus that it was time that they acted. There has been a
    RR> history of brutal oppression of Hindus under many Muslim regimes in
    RR> the past 1000 years and that cannot just be ignored. It's sad that
    RR> some guys on the net deny that this ever happened . This is akin to
    RR> what the neo-nazis in Germany and the KKK are doing. They deny that
    RR> Hitler ever exterminated Jews.

>>   But to my knowledge, the Jews do not go en masse to Germany
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>>   destroying buildings, etc...  The past's justice CANNOT be imparted
>>   now...  Like this, I can say that my cave-living descendants roamed
>>   all over the world; therefore I OWN the world...  does not work that
>>   way, bud...
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	Because they have no GUTS. Instead, they are taking their revenge with
	Moslems in the Middle East. As long as that can help them cool off
	EUROPEANS are with them and happy to support them every step of the way
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>>    RR> Both the destruction of the mosque in India and the destruction of
>>    RR> the temples in other countries are equally reprehensible. We cannot
>>    RR> ignore the fact that both happened and not just one of them.
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	Well, I hear lot of hue and cry about razing of ONE MOSQUE but do not 
	hear a word of
	razing of 250 Hindu Temples in Pakistan,Bangla Desh, England.
	Some of the temples were razed by Pakistan Govt. sponsored protests.
	Pakistan is not even "SECULAR" so how can they preach about 
	religious tolerance.
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   But one ignited the other...  One was the issue, and the other was
   the result of the issue.  Both sad though, VERY SAD and
   reprehensible, I agree fully.  But the bigger outrage is what
   triggered the death of 1200 plus people...

   Faraz Rabbani

   ... Either he is dead, or my watch has stopped.
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