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From: gordon@robots.ox.ac.uk (Gordon Buxton)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Metaphor, anyone ?
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:06:53 GMT
Organization: Robotics Research Group, Engineering Science Dept, Oxford, UK.
Originator: gordon@lucrece.robots

POSSIBLE SPOILER IF YOU'RE AMERICAN - Re: ERIC, HAR HAR

In article <1992Sep9.122425.1@vxdesy.desy.de> pawlak@vxdesy.desy.de writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.081611.26816@comp.lancs.ac.uk>, dik@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Richard Bentley) writes:
>> A friend of mine is including a definition of _metaphor_ in his 
>> thesis, and I recall some such in a Discworld book (Pyramids ?).
>> Before I go re-reading the whole lot, can anyone give me accurate
>> information where I will find this ?
>> 
>Guards! Guards! p.140 (Corgi paperback edition) Carrot's letter to Mother:
>\begin{quote}
>Going Up in the World is a metaphor, which I am learning about, it is like
>Lying but more decorative.
>\end{quote}
>
>I've seen something similar is some other Discworld as well, but can not
>find it right now.


Well, there seem to be several jokes on the metaphor theme in the
discworld, perhaps your friend could use one as an introduction to
each chapter ... (If there are too many chapters, we could always ask
Terry to write some more :-)

I distinctly remember a bit in Eric, when they break into the citadel
to rescue the most beautiful woman in the world only to find that she
is middle aged with twelve kids.  I think it goes something like:

"That can't be her, she looks like my mum" said Eric.
"Well, when they said that she was the most beautiful woman in the
world, they were speaking metaphorically" said Rincewind.
"Lying." explained Laveolus gently.
"People wouldn't go around laying seige to cities and having wars for
someone who was moderately good looking, quite attractive in the right
light ..."

Gordon.
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From: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett)
Subject: Well, I'm back                          
Cc: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:02:08 +0000

Home again, home again...riddled with jetlag or just plain tiredness.  Switch
on machine and here comes 350k (which doesn't include anything from this
conference before September 1...these messages were 'Unavailable' via CIX, so
if there was anything I REALLY ought to know about, tell me again.  I've
answered all the mail...hope you get it....if you don't, within a day or so,
tell me...)

Brief comment: anyone wishing to do a DW play or musical or similar...that's
fine by me, although I like to be asked.  Money is not involved unless you
make large quantities  Stephen Briggs would be probably happy to let his
scripts for the sold-out MORT and Wyrd Sisters plays be used/adapted by
others (what arrangement he'd make with them is up to him, but to start with
a payment for copying and postage'd sound like a good idea...) Or write your
own.
Don't consider I mean everything to be funny.  Or that I know what I'm
talking about.  I sure don't right now.

Terry

ps  Nice worldcon.
From: evan@hpl.hp.com (Evan Kirshenbaum)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Ideas.Terry Don't Read This (but all ideas held within are creative pd
Keywords: elves elf ideas more ideas and a banana
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:38:40 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories

In article <Bu9C7E.I6z@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> erhellfr@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Edgar Hellfritsch) writes:

>VOTE FOR ELVES!

But which Elves, the young Elves or the old Elves?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

[My apologies (and envy) to those of you who weren't subject to the US
postal service's "vote" on whether the stamp honoring Elvis Presley
should depict the "young" or the "old" Elvis.  Of course, it was fun
watching people protest that only people who were dead could be
honored with stamps, and we all know Elvis isn't dead :-)]

Evan Kirshenbaum
    HP Laboratories
    3500 Deer Creek Road, Building 26U
    Palo Alto, CA  94304

    kirshenbaum@hpl.hp.com
    (415)857-7572
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From: uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann)
Subject: Re: Celibacy and Wizards
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:06:17 GMT

gordon@robots.ox.ac.uk (Gordon Buxton) writes:

>P.S. What are other peoples favourites?

Puns? Or simply Gags? As an answer to the latter: It's the part in
"Truckers", where the Nome kids suggest to threaten somebody with a gnu.
Have you ever imagined somebody's face, if you threatened them to shoot
them with a gnu? I did, and it'll be the fault of jokes like these, if
one day I'll die of diaphragm failure. Although maybe I'm immune, be-
cause I also survived the German version of Monty Python's lethal joke.

I want this plane to fly to Cuba! And you'd better do what I say, 'cuz I
got a gnu!


May the Gnu Be with You!

(C)OOL mcmxcii
From: gordon@robots.ox.ac.uk (Gordon Buxton)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Ideas.Terry Don't Read This (well, you can now.)
Keywords: elves elf ideas more ideas and a banana
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:42:42 GMT
Organization: Robotics Research Group, Engineering Science Dept, Oxford, UK.
Originator: gordon@lucrece.robots

In article <1992Sep8.051952.3775@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mblaser@nyx.cs.du.edu (Fox) writes:
>Humans get everywhere.
>
>Some mention has been made of the dwarven society and a few paragraphs
>have been set aside discussing such things as courtship and merry-making
>activities ("Gold Gold Gold Gold Gold Gold Gold")
>
>Trolls, both in the wild and in their city jobs have appeared time and time
>again.
>
>BUT WHERE ARE THE ELVES?

They appear in a cameo role in Moving Pictures.  If I remember rightly
(I only read it last night) Victor goes into the studio comissary
(which sells only "stoo") and is surprised to see Trolls and dwarves
(sp?) *NOT* fighting with one another and
"... there were even some elves, normally the Discworld's most elusive
inhabitants ... "

Gordon.
From: ins448c@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Mills)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: The Annotated Pratchett File, v2.0
Date: 7 Sep 92 02:08:55 GMT
Organization: Monash University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Also, in Guards! Guards! there is a thick reference to Beowulf and Grendel that
I found amusing.

p104

A group of 'heroes' are talking about the trials of monster hunting.

  "Yeah, well.  Times are hard," said the first speaker sharply.
  "Monsters are getting more uppity, too," said another.  "I heard
where this guy, he killed this monster in this lake, no problem,
stuck its arm up over the door - "
  "Pour encourjay lays ortras," said one of the listeners.
  "Right, and you know what?  Its mum come and complained.  Its
actual mum come right down to the hall next day and complained.
Actually complained.  That's the respect you get."

BTW, what does "Pour encourjay lays ortras" mean?  I know it is meant to be
'dog-french' but have no idea what it should translate to.

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From: ins448c@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Mills)
Subject: Re: Wanted some info
Organization: Monash University
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 05:16:13 GMT

Leo Breebaart (leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl) wrote:
: ins448c@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Mills) writes:
: 
: > Katrina Hill (khill@leven.appcomp.utas.edu.au) wrote:
: > : 	the only problem [with TP books] is that the people at/in the book 
: > : 	store did not know the order, or even if there was one...could some 
: > : 	body help me please.
: 
: > The other books in the series are:
: > 
: > [ Incomplete List, which leaves out Reaperman and Eric, deleted ]
: >
: > (I am bound to have forgotten some.)
: 
: Far be it from me to flame people who come to us for information, or
: people who try to be helpful in reply. But I just can't help
: wondering:
: 
: Katrina: why didn't you try to find the FAQ for a.f.p before asking
: this question? It is netiquette to not jump in and start posting away
: to a newsgroup, precisely because your question is one of those
: frequently asked ones that everybody is sick of seeing for the
: millionth time.

I am not sick of seeing them.

: Andrew: why didn't you direct Katrina towards the FAQ instead of
: giving an answer, which you already suspected to be incomplete? You
: won't be helping her much, this way.

She just asked for a list of books not a whole faq (which is by the way
huge).  And any errors that I made were (and have been) bound to be pointed
out by someone else.

: -- 
: Leo Breebaart  (leo @ ph.tn.tudelft.nl)
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From: fp101@sci.kun.nl (fp1 course)
Subject: Re: Signings 
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 09:18:53 GMT

Is it possible to hop over the canal to holland? I've read you are coming to a convention or something, so I want to ask if you are going to do some signing over here.

Hope to here something soon!



(A mad DM)The story continous


*Do you know where Hell is? Hell is in Hello!*
 
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From: kcl@world.std.com (Katherine C Long)
Subject: Request: Hedgehog Song Music
Keywords: hedgehog
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 23:31:29 GMT

Dear Folks,

   I'd like to know what tune the Hedgehog Song is sung to.
I've found a slightly different version of it (see below) in
the book _Rugby Songs_ published by Sphere Books, UK, 1967 - 
but it doesn't give either the tune to sing it to or the 
musical notes.  Can anyone help?  I wonder if the rugby
people on the net would know?  Here is the rugby version:

      The Sexual Life of the Camel

  The sexual life of the camel
  Is stranger than anyone thinks,
  At the height of the mating season
  He tries to bugger the sphinx,
  But the spinx's posterior sphincter
  Is all clogged by the sands of the Nile,
  Which accounts for the hump on the camel
  And the spinx's inscrutable smile.

  In the process of syphilization
  From the anthropoid ape down to man
  It is generally held that the Navy
  Has buggered whatever it can,
  Yet recent extensive researches
  By Darwin and Huxley and Hall
  Conclusively prove that the hedgehog
  Has never been buggered at all.

  We therefore believe out conclusion
  Is incontrovertibly shown
  That comparative safety on shipboard
  Is enjoyed by the hedgehog alone.
  Why haven't they done it at Spithead,
  As they've done it at Harvard and Yale
  And also at Oxford and Cambridge
  By shaving the spines off its tail.




Katherine Long
kcl@world.std.com

   8-)
    XXXXxxxx=

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From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: The Annotated Pratchett File, v2.0
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 01:33:10 GMT

In article <Jsr.00k4@Xyzzy.equinox.gen.nz> Jsr@Xyzzy.equinox.gen.nz (J S Russell) writes:
>pfe@meryl.csd.uu.se (Per Ekman) writes:
>: I don't think it has been mentioned that Necrotelecomnincon is obviously
>: a pun on Necronomicon, a (fictional) occult book that is mentioned in
>: several books and stories by american fantasy/horror writer H.P. Lovecraft.
>: And the extra "telecom" is of course useful if you want to speak to someone
>: far away...

>Fictional? But I've got the paperback! It even has one of those 
>"Wow! Great!" quotes from Anne McCaffrey, on the front cover.

Yeh, I've got the comic version, the Necronomicomic, by Hovercraft
Publications. Complete with Charles Atlas ad: "The Elder Gods say they can
make me a man, and I'll do it because now I'm MAD!" and "Oh, Abdul, I didn't
know you were a SORCERER".
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From: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett)
Subject: Celibate wizards                        
Cc: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:08:00 +0000


Re the current discussions on same:

I've always assumed that wizards were celibate in the same way that priests
are -- it's the RULE, enforced by those at the top for whom the whole thing
is now somewhat academic in any case.  The link between abstention/celibacy
and magic power is an old one, anyway.  I'm not sure that refraining from sex
would really affect the magical abilities, but it's what the _wizard_ thinks
that matters.

Since you are collecting this stuff, I'd better say that you don't have to
have read too much Anglo-Saxon literature to know what's really being
referred to in the heroes bit in Guards! Guards!, where the monster's mum
comes and complains...

Terry
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From: u8706558@cs.uow.edu.au (Sean Volke)
Subject: Re: Wanted some info
Organization: The Shell
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 08:12:20 GMT

ins448c@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Mills) writes:
>Katrina Hill (khill@leven.appcomp.utas.edu.au) wrote:
>: 	After almost a year of thinking about going and getting some
>: 	Terry Pratchett books i finally did...the only problem is that
>: 	the poeple at/in the book store did not know the order, or even
>: 	if there was one...could some body help me please.  I would just
>: 	haten to start reading them and then find i can't get the second
>: 	last in a series or something.  It HAS happened before and i was
>: 	most put out.
>: 
>: 	Thanks Heaps.
>: 
>: 	Trina  ->  K.Hill@appcomp.utas.edu.au

>The order of the Discworld books really does not matter, however, the later
>works of TP are a bit more refined than the first couple.

>The first two Discworld books are The Color of Magic and then The Light
>Fantastic.  If you read and like these two books I would recommend getting
>your hands on the rest of them.

>The other books in the series are:

>	Equal Rites.
>	Mort.
>	Sourcery.
>	Wyrd Sisters.
>	Pyramids.
>	Guards! Guards!
	Moving Pictures
	Eric
	Reaper Man
>	Witches Abroad.
>	Small Gods.

>	(I am bound to have forgotten some.)
yep! I probably have too but I think that's all the published ones with the
exception of Small Gods which is expected to arrive late September. So much
for books arriving within 30 days of overseas publication. One of these days
I'll write to Forbidden Planet and see if I can get them sooner. Does anyone
know if they do mailorder to Australia ? Or better yet, are they online ?
Now that would be something...being able to order books via email...save on
postage.
ta-ta
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From: htkeays@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Tom Keays)
Subject: Re: The Annotated Pratchett File, v2.0
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 10:11:47 EDT

In article <leo.715439152@galaxy> leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl writes:
>> WITCHES ABROAD
>> You should perhaps elucidate the Ernest Hemingway sectiona nd explain
>> about Pamplona and what cojones are!!
>
>Unfortunately, I have never in my life read any Hemingway, so elucidation
>will have to wait until I read whatever work of his is necessary for 
>understanding it myself (not that I don't know what Pamplona and cojones
>are, but I just thought it was funny in its own right). 
>Can you give me an approprioate pointer?
>
Hemingway lived for a time in Spain.  Cajones translates literally as
"box" but is slang for "balls" (testicles).  The section is in reference
to machismo (something Hemingway is noted for) and the witches general 
opinion of it (as in kicks in the cajones).

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From: cweller@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (Catherine Weller)
Subject: Re: The Annotated Pratchett File, v2.0
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 23:02:27 GMT

ins448c@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Mills) writes:
[deletia...]
>BTW, what does "Pour encourjay lays ortras" mean?  I know it is meant to be
>'dog-french' but have no idea what it should translate to.

It's "To encourage the..." somethingorother. Haven't the foggiest what "ortas"
is... My guess goes that Terry only did year ten high-school French too.

Anyone else?

Cath,
cweller@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au
no bart, no buaf, no stupidquote(tm). No artificial preservatives....:)
From: bgm@ukc.ac.uk (B.G.MacDonald)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Celibacy and Wizards
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:21:27 GMT
Reply-To: bgm@ukc.ac.uk (B.G.MacDonald)
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.


 This is dealt with in Colour of Magic, where Rincewind is a but cast
 his great spell.  Once it is done he says, that magic is more thrilling than 
 sex and he can understand why the wizards done have sex.

  This indicates that sex is not a must for wizards but they perfer magic to
  sex.

  P.s. It is at the end of Colour of Magic.  When he is up that dark tower.

   Brian
From: hennebry@plains.NoDak.edu (Michael J. Hennebry)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Well, I'm back
Date: 12 Sep 92 19:05:33 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


Really? All great philosophers know that there is only one place.
There is no other place for TP to be back from.

-- 
Mike   hennebry@plains.NoDak.edu
"I still thing it's garbage, but beautifully cooked."   --  TP on TP
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From: rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich Holmes)
Subject: Holmes (Secret of Sherlock Holmes SPOILERS) (was Re: The Annotated Pratchett File, v2.0)
In-reply-to: peter@taronga.com's message of Fri, 4 Sep 1992 10:40:43 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
	<BtyMDA.CuK@apollo.hp.com> <ILYIRQ5@taronga.com>
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 16:04:55 EDT

In article <ILYIRQ5@taronga.com> peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:

>I'm sure that Holmes was really the person he described as "Moriarty", and
>Moriarty never actually existed. The whole detective agency scheme was to
>hide his criminal activities from his smarter older brother, and to wipe
>out competition in the London underworld.

That's more or less exactly the premise of the second act of "The
Secret of Sherlock Holmes," a play by someone whose name I can't
remember that was being done by Jeremy Brett and Edward Hardwick, or
whatever their names are, when I visited London in '89. Except
Holmes's motivations were different. The first act was basically a
rehash of the the relationship between the two men, lifted more or
less verbatim from Conan Doyle.

I thought it was fun seeing Brett and Hardwick doing Holmes and Watson
on the stage, but I really hated the premise and execution of the
script.

--
Inspected by number 23
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From: johnf@apollo.hp.com (John Francis)
Subject: Re: Ideas.Terry Don't Read This (but all ideas held within are creative pd
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:58:56 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA
Keywords: elves elf ideas more ideas and a banana

In article <1992Sep11.002759.15317@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mblaser@nyx.cs.du.edu (Fox) writes:
>pmcauley@maths.tcd.ie (Paul Mc Auley) writes:
>
>>Oh noooooo.... I would have them set up as the Japanese equivalent..
>
>Eeek!  Triad or Yakuza elves.  Samurai elves wielding katanas.  Shuriken
>throwing halflings.  Oh, this is too grim to continue thinking of *8)
>
>Mike

It's been done.

For a particularly nasty, slit-you-up-a-treat elf, try the bar owner in
the fantasy/detective books by Glen Cook - the ones with the name of a
metal in the title (Gold, Silver, Brass, Iron, . . .).
-- 
John Francis                                johnf@apollo.hp.com
Seen passing on the net:  Spotted Owl - the *other* white meat!
From: cmac@castle.ed.ac.uk (Colin MacDonald)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Malleus Maleficarum [was Re: Latin]
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:10:19 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Sep9.105535.10560@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> ins769v@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Veltyen) writes:
>Richard Vowles (richard@nacjack.gen.nz) wrote:
>: 
>: |>>The last one is the "Malleus Maleficarum". Can anyone translate that?
>: 
>: Malleus Maleficarum was a book written in the late 15th century by
>: Heinrich Kramer and Joseph Sprenger, one was a Dominican Inquisitor
>: and the other, the Mayor of Colonge [Spelling?, big sorta place in
>: Germany].
>
>Just being (probably wrongly) picky, but isn't cologne in France?

No, Germany.  I believe the Germans spell it Koln (with two dots above
the o [dierisis? umlaut? never could remember all these things]), and
they have a football team which is how I know.  The French use the word
to describe perfume for men, so that they don't have to feel embarassed
about wearing perfume 'cos it isn't really...  You see what I mean.

While I'm here, is anyone else getting fed up of people taking the
Discworld books and saying "Oh yes, there was a reference to
such-and-such a bit like this in Dante's Inferno except that it said..."
and so on.  I must confess to being prepared to accept that TP has at
least _some_ originality in his work, and many of the examples cited in
this group could well be pure coincidence.  Perhaps someone in authority
(guess who) would venture to qualify which of these attributions are
correct?

Comments & criticism welcome, flames ignored.
-- 
Colin MacDonald, Dept. of Clinical Neurosciences, University of Edinburgh
.........  cmac @ castle.ed.ac.uk
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From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Hogu Awards
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:59:00 GMT

At the Worldcon Ranquet, Terry Pratchett came in a strong second for
"Best Dead Author (must be living to qualify)".  William Shatner won.

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
From: pashley@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Montykins)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Celibacy and Wizards
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:04:26 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Sep11.141623.26825@lucrece.robots.ox.ac.uk>, gordon@robots.ox.ac.uk (Gordon Buxton) writes:
>
>P.S. What are other peoples favourites?

"The frogs croaked in the rushes *"

 -Paul "Monty" Ashley

"* But were edited out of the final version"
-- 
  "Didn't expect to see me again,         | pashley@sdcc13.ucsd.edu
eh, Svengali?"                            |  [Not a UCSD employee]
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