HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: robg@citr.uq.oz.au (Rob Geraghty)
Subject: Re: Chivalry, Honor, Loss of Life...
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 01:14:34 GMT

phantasm@iastate.edu () writes:
>A short time ago I wrote:
>>> It appears that we have crossed over from chivalry to honor in this
>>> discussion... And sad to say, war has progressed so far as to make modern
>>> day dealings with the enemy no longer an issue of honor as they were in the
>>> past...

>Richard Iswara <ri0a+@andrew.cmu.edu> responds:
>> I disagree. I think today warfare is more civilized than in the previous
>> times. Conventional warfare, not nuclear that is. There are code of conduct
>> in today's armed forces that is rigourously enforced. Treatment of POW and
>> civilian on the majority is better in this century than before. In the an-
>> cient times, this honor code is not enforced rigourously. A commander
>> basically has the ultimate power on his soldiers, which is not true today.
>> How many times have you read in history books about city sacking,
>> atrocities that is commited on civilians by these "supposedly" chivalric
>> knights? What happened to the atrocities that is "sanctioned by God" 
>> during the Crusades? What happened to prisoners that couldn't afford or
>> has nobody that would pay their ransom? Slavery or death would most likely
>> be their fates. Again, I submit that for the most part, conduct of war in
>> modern times are more honourable than previously.

>Alas, Richard, I must disagree with you... Not strictly with what you say, but
>with what you don't say...

I would also have to disagree with Richard in that, for the most part,
wars in the past were entirely fought between professional soldiers on
set battlegrounds.  This changed utterly in the second world war.
Suddenly the targets were the other side's factories and homes, not
merely the people holding the guns/spears/triggers.  Who could say that
the firebombing of Tokyo or Dresden or London had anything to do with
codes of conduct?  More people died in the fires in Tokyo than died in
*both* Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

In the past, serfs were valuable property - today they are "collateral
damage".

I know there's huge holes in these generalisations.  Let's face it -
*war* is wrong.  regardless of *why* or *how* it's fought.  There have
got to be better ways of sorting out the world's problems than by
killing each other.

Do you think the people of Sarajevo would agree that war is honourable?
What do you suppose the starving people in africa think of the "honour" of
the civil wars that have brought famine to them?

How many people in the world would be starving if the money the US and
Soviets spent on arms was spent feeding the people?

Lets stop trying to justify guns and start justifying peace!

<OK, OK - I'll get off the soapbox now...>

Rob
Official Journeyman-Harper of the RFA

--
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Rob Geraghty               | 3 things are important to me 
robg@durian.citr.oz.au     | The gift of love, the joy of life
CITR                       | And the making of music in all its forms
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: rmair@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ross Mair)
Subject: Re: Best Place for a Sunset...
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 01:53:23 GMT

verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey) writes:

>>I knew there had to ba *a* women who appreciated that I didn't wear
>>her underwear  :-)

>MA Snuggles Ross and smiles

>>Now, just what wewre you whispering in my ear?? :-)

>MA whispers some more and watches Ross's face flush ;)

MA!!  You'd do *that* to me....  :-)~~~~
For *how* long!!!    *Ross's eyes widen in expectation*

I've never spent a *whole* week in bed....  :-)~~~~~

*HOLIDAY HUGS*

Ross
Official Personal Bodyguard to Lis, the Good Romantic Witch
***********************************************************
From: hck@maximo.enet.dec.com (Herb King)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: looking to talk to someone
Date: 29 Dec 92 21:51:44 GMT
Reply-To: hck@maximo.enet.dec.com (Herb King)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

hello everbody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

my name is herb king and I want to talk to somebody out there.
 I am new to talking via net. It doesn't matter if your overseas of in amer-
ica. I haven't had that much romance in my life so may be some female
out there would like to share hers with me. 
 But remember to be gentle, I'm new.

herb


 
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor)
Subject: Re: Oscar for most insane Newsgroup!
Keywords: Bizarre
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 21:54:23 GMT

In article <92Dec21.171248.22537@acs.ucalgary.ca> verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey) writes:

**some deleted**

>>*pant* *pant*  woof!
>
>MA slides her fingers through Rip's hair and smiles at him with
>promise shining in her eyes...

Is it getting hot in here, or is it just me.....?

>>>Grins wickedly at Rip as she closes the door behind them.
>>
>>*gulp!*
>
>From behind the closed door sounds of mischievious giggles and
>laughter can be heard....

Yeah, and from me comes the moans of pain and torture, and surprise!
;-)

>>>You don't have much that is for sure... I'm pretty demanding :)
>>
>>Yeah, but that's why I love ya so much!!!  *smooch!*
>
>MA smiles softly at her slave and gives him a tender kiss...

Which he takes and puts in his treasure chest for a rainy day...

>That's a good boy... Shall we continue? ;)

By all means...! :-)


rip
-- 
Epperson's law:
        When a man says it's a silly, childish game, it's probably
something his wife can beat him at.
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 31 Dec 1992 09:31:18 MST
From: <IDMLH@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Another new participant

In response to Bacon:

Grumpy women?  Hey...so I'm grumpy today...I'm entitled to one day out of 365
to be grumpy!  I'm Grumpy damn it.
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: peterw@coombs.anu.edu.au (Clare West)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: looking to talk to someone
Date: 29 Dec 92 22:38:40 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2

hck@maximo.enet.dec.com (Herb King) writes:

>my name is herb king and I want to talk to somebody out there.

Hi Herb, did I welcome you already - I can't remember......my brain is
going.......... anyway let me welcome you:

    Welcome to ARC, the happiest place on the net

*WELCOME HUGS*

clare

--
usually cwes1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz but currently peterw@coombs.anu.edu.au 
                                         or rgl@adfa.oz.au

only 9 days to go...
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: 154s@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mona Hatfield)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Holiday blues
Date: 31 Dec 92 18:12:57 GMT
Reply-To: 154s@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mona Hatfield)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In alt.romance.chat, verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey) writes:
>Hi folks...
>back in order. This was the first Xmas ever that I spent alone
>and I hope never to have to do that again. I turned 30 on the
>28th too and spent it mainly on my own. Now I know the meaning of
>holiday blues...

Mary-Ann,

So sorry to hear that you have the Holiday Blues.  Happy Belated Birthday
Wishes.  Being thirty was great (for me), make the most of it or you'll
be forty and wishing you had.

Where is Calgary in relation to Alaska?  (I have my reasons)

I tell you what, I don't have net access at home, but at midnight tonight
(New Year's Eve) my son and I will drink a toast to your good fortune
in the upcoming year :).

*Warm Fuzzies* to you and yours

Mona Hatfield
aka Lady Elaine
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon)
Subject: Re: romance
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 15:48:36 GMT

In article <92366.073716IDMLH@ASUACAD.BITNET> <IDMLH@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
>No.  You're wrong...romance isn't dead and it hasn't been put on hold.
>It's still out there...you just have to let yourself experience it.

also highly recommended that you find it first (or manufacture some on
the spot if in a hurry) before attempting to experience it - otherwise
you will look silly in public.

:)

-bacon
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor)
Subject: Re: Holiday Greetings!
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 21:25:34 GMT

In article <IfCWUPK00XsLIh_p8X@andrew.cmu.edu> Richard Iswara <ri0a+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>The subject line sez it all. Happy Holiday everyone. Whatever you are
>celebrating. (i.e. Christmas or Hannukah(sp?) or JustNewYear) Oops.
>Sorry, forgot to include Winter Soltice. Anything else that should be
>celebrated which I haven't included here? Well, just add them yourself
>to complete 'em.
>
>RickI, the RoadRunner
>Wonder what the Sheeps, Horses and Pigs
>thinks about Yuletide. Do they celebrate
>Christmas too???

Well, I know certain sheeps that get a special Holiday treat....

rip
-- 
Your conscience never stops you from doing anything.  It just stops
you from enjoying it.
From: peterw@coombs.anu.edu.au (Clare West)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Holiday Greetings!
Date: 25 Dec 92 11:18:34 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2

psnow@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul Snow) writes:
>peterw@coombs.anu.edu.au  (Clare West) anguishes:
>----not yet----
>> >Just think... your days are beginning to get shorter, so the next 14 days
>> >will be shorter than the last 14 :)
>> 
>----here----
>> yeh, but the nights lying in bed wishing he was beside me are longer :-(

>She was apart from her man,
>her **true love**???, she didn't say,
>but it was obvious from her writing,
>that he was too far away.

Yes, this is it, true love, that which you don't find every day.


>What matters most isn't the distance
>that physically keeps you apart,
>What matters is the closeness,
>which you feel in your heart.
>the pain and the lonelies,
>will soon pass away,
>as time marches foward,
>towards the magic 0 day.

thank you, you're right, it feels much better now that its less than
two weeks (or will be in a few hours). Of course I just sent 45
minutes on the phone to him so its bound to feel better right now.

thank you very much for those thoughts Paul,

*Warm HUGS*

clare

--
usually cwes1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz but currently peterw@coombs.anu.edu.au 
                                         or rgl@adfa.oz.au

only 14 days to go...
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Saturday, 2 Jan 1993 20:31:22 MST
From: <ICSJM@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Officer and Gentleman...
 <AfFYr=m00XsF5Cm7tg@andrew.cmu.edu>

officers have control of their soldiers?????  Who's army are you talking about?
Ask some one from the Viet Nam era about the officers in command of them.
I didn't trust any officer in a crisis situation...the non-com's carried the
officers....probably too much "class room war" with an officer.  When you
put them in the field they didn't know their left from their right.
Officers.......cheeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzz
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique)
Subject: Re: Greetings : )
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:32:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.152828.18291@news.unomaha.edu> psnow@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul Snow) writes:

         (Julie and Steven's discussion deleted for space)

>Isn't it just **wonderful** to hear stuff like that. It just warms my heart,
>and reinforces my optimism that for all of us still looking, it can be
>found. (Cheerful, and hopeful SIGH)

Yeah, it is wonderful, isn't it, Paul....  *sigh*   
You should be around them!  Love just glows around them.

>   ...Remember, a rainbow may end in a pot of gold,
>        but it begins in the clouds...

I just love this....   I'm in the middle of some big black
clouds right now myself, and am glad to hear the pot of gold
is still at the end.  :)   

            ** Tight Bewitching Huggs **


Lis, The Official Good Romantic Witch
and Honoured Former President
of the Romantic Fire Association

p.s.  Heaven is a *Hug* and a *Smile*
      the Joy of Music and the Beauty of Silence
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: E. Lloyd Olson
Subject: Re: I'm Baaaaaack!! [Insert Evil Grin]
Originator: icsu0237@ming.cs.montana.edu
Organization: YoYoDyne Propulsion Systems
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 06:34:41 GMT

In article <BzAzFq.An4@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-) writes:
>E. Lloyd Olson says softly:
>
>>Hi, All.
>
>HI E. LLOYD OLSON!!!
>
>>     I know I haven't been here lately, but I'm back (just in time for 
>>Christmas).  I also wrote a story (well, it's also sort of an essay);
>
>About time you made it back. Now go stand under the mistletoe and you
>might get kissed!
>
     [My story and Steve's comments deleted for space]
>
>Good story guy!...feels much better now that it is out, eh? She can be
>a friend though. She is a wonderful friend and has lots of love for
>all her friends. I can be a good friend too..let's get emailing again!
>*HUG*
>
>Steve

     For the record, Steve, you *are* aware that this story is not
about you and Julie, are you not?  I thought I made it clear in the
intro that I used your names because I couldn't think of better ones
and these two people kind of remind me of you and Jules (even though
I haven't met you in real.life -- BTW:  yes, "Steve"'s roomate has a
lot in common with Aahz [the other Dan Bernstein];  he lives in an 
honors dorm and is one of the few normal [read:  boring and anal
retentive] people there).  One more thing -- does this story qualify
me for RFA membership?  It alludes to romance even if none occurs in
the narrative (and the romance in question doesn't happen to me
<sigh>).  I remain,
                                  -Yrs. in Fear & Loathing,
                                      E. Lloyd Olson, Esq.

PS.  I just noticed -- no fire.  What if I had the building burn down?

-- 
================================================================================
Jeff Patterson   CS Department  || "We are the keepers of the sacred words..."
icsu0237@caesar.cs.montana.edu  ||            - Head Knight who says "NEEEGH!"
================================================================================
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor)
Subject: Re: Holiday blues
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 23:21:45 GMT

In article <92Dec30.210931.15389@acs.ucalgary.ca> verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey) writes:
>Hi folks...
>
>To Ross and Rip and Rob, sorry I haven't replied to your posts...

You got this thing about guys whose names begin with an 'R'?

>I just haven't had the bounce to do it lately. The holiday season
>is almost over and I can't tell yu how glad I am that it is...
>Just the dreaded New Years left and then I can try to get things
>back in order.

Well, if you get down, just give me a buzz, I'll be here at work that
afternoon...

>This was the first Xmas ever that I spent alone
>and I hope never to have to do that again. I turned 30 on the
>28th too and spent it mainly on my own. Now I know the meaning of
>holiday blues...

*BigMassiveSlaveHugs!!*

>Sorry to be a downer folks but I just wanted to say I was alive
>out here and will return to posting shortly.

No problem, that's what we are here for!

*hug*

rip(MA's ObedientSlave)
-- 
Why bother building any more nuclear warheads until we use the ones we
have?
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: smccoy@dw3g.ess.harris.com (Cheshire Cat)
Subject: Re: Mackinac Island (was Re: Sunsets (was RE: Still Stunned))
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:29:42 GMT
Organization: Harris Corporation Information Systems Division
Keywords: fudge!

In article <1992Dec18.182518.22692@e2big.mko.dec.com>, pel@maximo.enet.dec.com (Phillip E lujan) writes:
|> Just a quick note:
|> 
|> I forget to mention that the name of the island is pronounced Mackinaw, even
|> tho it's spelled Mackinac.  In fact, I believe the name of those heavy woolen
|> plaid coats comes from the island...
|> 
|> ----------------
|> Sean Roberts, Bachelor of the Arts in Osculatology
|> Doing fieldwork for my Masters...

Yes, quite right (the pronounciation thing).  Well done!

Did we mention the fudge?  Or, more properly...

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*swoon*

---
Cheshire Cat		   Official Back Scratcher of the RFA

	I once believed in causes too, 
	And had my pointless point of view
	And life went on no matter who 
	Was wrong or right
		(Billy Joel)
From: peterw@coombs.anu.edu.au (Clare West)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: women
Date: 23 Dec 92 05:05:47 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2

<ICSJM@ASUACAD.BITNET>(jojo) writes:

>     main point of this topic is ----why does the perfect match for you always
>end up being married to some jerk.  She knows it, but doesn't want to leave
>him.....she believes in trying,  but after 5 or 6 tries, it seems like she
>get the idea that the guy is a jerk, and go with the person that really
>loves her????

well this is more of an alt.romance topic than an alt.romance.chat
topic but I'll respond anyhow.

There's a couple of things to mention:

 o How do you know she is the perfect match for you?
 o How do you know he is a jerk - what goes on when they are alone is
   a mystery to you - unless she's telling you about it of course.
 o How does she know that you really love her?

When you are "in love" you miss lots of things. You don't see the
things he's doing as bad or whatever. It takes you a lot longer to
notice that you're being taken for granted. There are some guys (ok
there's this one guy) who I look back at and say "How did I ever end
up going out with such a jerk?"

that's about all I have to say except:

    Welcome to ARC, the happiest place on the net

*WELCOME HUGS*

clare

--
usually cwes1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz but currently peterw@coombs.anu.edu.au 
                                         or rgl@adfa.oz.au

only 16 days to go...
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor)
Subject: Re: Best Place for a Sunset...
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 17:31:02 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.071706.20266@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> rmair@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ross Mair) writes:
>rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) writes:
>
>>I wrote..  (but deleted that bit!)
>
>>>rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) writes:
>>>>So, Ariel, what say you come by to my little play room.....?
>>>
>>>Hey - how come Rip gets all the women round here!!
>
>>Well, ross, if you want them, you got to go out and *get* them!  I
>>have yet to have a woman throw herself at me and say "Take me, I'm
>>yours!"  I usually say that..... :-)
>
>But even if I tyr that - it doesn't have the same effect.. :-(
>See, watch this... I bet it doesn't generate the same response you got...
>
>So, Ariel, what say you come by to my little play room.....?

Well, she having met me, of course it will have a different affect
when you say it....  People *know* I am bizarre....

>>>I know, I'm justtoo nice.... *pout, Ross suffers another bout of NGS*
>>>Just coz *I* don't wear women's underware!!!!!  :-(
>
>>Hey, try it sometime!  Women like a sensitive '90's kind of guy who
>>ain't afraid to wear wimmen's underwear!  Besides, who ever said I
>>wasn't a nice guy...
>
>Just I reckon it looks better on, partly on, or off *their* bodies! :-)


That goes without saying!

rip
-- 
The moon may be smaller than Earth, but it's further away.
From: E. Lloyd Olson
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: A New Addition to My Clan
Date: 28 Dec 92 07:59:24 GMT
Organization: Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
Originator: icsu0237@ming.cs.montana.edu

Hi, All.
     Guess What!  Not two hours ago, my nephew, Ethan Thomas
Olson, was born (10:50 pm, MST, 12-27-92, to be exact).  I will
get to see him probably around New Year's (right now, my family
is planning to go to Denver [my brother's residence] on the 30th
of December).  *HUGS* and cigars all around.  I remain,
                           -Yrs. in Fear & Loathing,
                               E. Lloyd Olson, Esq.

-- 
+------------------------+---------------------------------+-------------+
|  E. Lloyd Olson, Esq.  |  geo0588@trex.oscs.montana.edu  |   GONZO!    |
+------------------------+---------------------------------+-------------|
From: pel@maximo.enet.dec.com (Phillip E lujan)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Chocolate...: )
Date: 21 Dec 92 18:52:53 GMT
Reply-To: pel@maximo.enet.dec.com (Phillip E lujan)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

WARNING...
THIS POST CONTAINS SCENES OF A SEXUAL NATURE, WHICH MAY BE UNSUITABLE FOR
YOUNGER OR MORE SENSITIVE READERS.  PARENTAL DISCRETION IS ADVISED.
**************************************************************************
(Yes, I do change the warning each time the thread gets back to me.  If I
don't run out of imagination and humor, I shall continue to do so...)






In article <20DEC199220433163@uhdvx3>, 9999cs02@uhdvx3 (Tina Marie!) writes:
|> 	Tina smiles happily, exploring your mouth with her tongue.  She lets
|> her hands caress your back tenderly.  She presses closer to you, feeling the
|> chocolate drip down..."Hm...some of the chocolate dripping inside
|> your jeans", she notices, then continues kissing you...

Sean smiles back at you.  "Well, I could say something... but I won't."  He
kisses you back, while his strong but gentle hands remove your brassiere and
cup your breasts...

---------------------
Sean Roberts, Bachelor of the Arts in Osculatology
Doing the fieldwork for my Masters (and boy, is it fun!)