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From:         Yvonna Lincoln <E101YL@TAMVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      re: Exotic Classrooms
              14 Aug 1992 13:58:20 EDT from
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Dear Peter Neenan:  The individual you should contact regarding participatory r
esearch in industrial settings is Peter Reason at the Centre for the Study of O
rganizational Change and Development at the University of Bath, Bath, England,
United Kingdom.  Peter conducts a research seminar (very small) every two years
, and often has at those seminars several sociologists who are doing exactly th
at kind of research.  One of them, named David (whose last name I cannot recoll
ect, but whom Peter will know immediately, probably) is at the University of Ma
nchester, working in the heavy industries (left) there, and would ultimately be
 the individual (among several) to contact.  Try writing Peter at Bath;  he wil
l put you in touch with a whole group of individuals (academics) I would bet.
Tell him I told you about him and his participatory research group.   Yvonna Li
ncoln
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From:         George Balch <U08812@UICVM.BITNET>
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              20 Aug 1992 12:43:36 MDT from <rwilson@EDUC.UCALGARY.CA>

On Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:43:36 MDT Roger Wilson said:
>Is anyone else receiving double postings from QUALRS-L,
>the first as per _normal_ and the second with _excessive_
>header listings?
>
>rwilson@educ.ucalgary.ca

Yes, I am, too. And not just on this list.
George Balch
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From:         "jean kantambu latting" <SOCW9V@UHUPVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Realism=Positivism???
              21 Aug 1992 12:50:29 +1000 from <dcunning@METZ.UNE.EDU.AU>

On Fri, 21 Aug 1992 12:50:29 +1000 <dcunning@METZ.UNE.EDU.AU> said:
>             It might be more accurate to say that semiotics can be both
>realist and idealist at once, sort of in the way that light can be both
>wave
>and particle.  So its not a forced choice that one has to make.  But
>we're (or at least I'm) not talking about some compromise or middle
>ground (like a wavy particle?) between realism and idealism.  I'm saying
>the dualism required to even ask the question is not inevitable and
>a triadic model is equally defensable.

Reminds me of the difference between collaboration and compromise.
Collaboration means both sides get what they want.  Compromise means
that both sides give up something of what they want.  So if you are
saying that semiotics assumes that both realism and idealism are
assumed, I can follow that.

>From memory (as my books and other personal belongings are currently
>rotting on a dock in Brisbane), Peirce said the universe is perfused with
>signs, if not composed exclusively of signs.  But he also said a sign is
>not a sign until it is taken as such.  Yin AND yang.  Wave AND particle.
>This is why a tradic model is essential.

So, I ask you the same question that I asked Gary.  Sign to whom?
Or does that matter?

>This is probably too obtuse to be helpful.  Gary is better at explaining
>things.
>That's why we write together.......djc

Not better, Don.  Different.  He explains things differently (^_^).
Thanks for responding.  I didn't know you were here.
>
Jean
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From:         MHORNEY@OREGON.BITNET
Subject:      Typological Examples

Like others in this conversation I have found methodological typologies to
be problematical. Their greatest drawback I've come to believe is that
typologists seem generally to proceed without presenting any, or enough,
data. That is, statements about actual research in some way similar to:

X's study of Y by doing Z is an example of Q but not R because of T.

X's interpretation of Y was flawed because Z was non considered hence Q is
required.

X and Y differ in their results since X did Z and Y did Q.

X told Y about Z and Q told R about Z.

In study X, Y showed that Z can not be known by doing Q because of R.

In study X, Y showed that Z can only be known by doing Q because of R.

X was seen earlier as Y by Z but later as Q by R.

As my own data let me recount my experience last month at the United
Kingdom Reading Conference. There I attended a 6 hour workshop on "Teacher
Research" presented by a Canadian education professor and a group of his
(teacher) graduate students. The initial activity was to compare
"Traditional Research," "Ethnography," and "Teacher Research," along the
dimensions of "Who, What, When, Where, and Why."

My small group, led by the professor, began to struggle with terminology
immediately. It seemed our collective definitions and experience had almost
no vocabulary in common. By ethnography the professor meant anything that
the readers of this list might in any sense call "Qualitative Research," a
term which he had never heard. Traditional Research was everything else,
especially anything where counting was involved. Of all the things that the
conjunction of "Teacher" and "Research" might mean, the professor had only
one specific idea in mind. His Teacher Research is (I think) a deeply
introspective process whereby teachers come to know their own value. Its
process depends greatly on journal writing and on what I would call support
groups.

Experiences such as this lead me distrust all nouns and believe only in
verbs.

Mark Horney
School of Education
University of Oregon
Eugene, OR 97403
mhorney@oregon.uoregon.edu
(503) 346-2679
From: lonkila@franz.Helsinki.FI (MARKKU LONKILA (SOSPO))
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Subject: Typologies
Date: 23 Aug 92 14:53:05 GMT
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Jean,

Harry Wolcott has developed a typology of qualitative research 
in "Posturing in Qualitative Inquiry" (The Handbook of Qualitative Research 
in Education. Academic Press, 1992). Wollcott (p. 23)  has drawn a "typology 
tree" where the trunk represents the common core (research technics) of 
qualitative methods. He also cites Jacob's articles of "qualitative research 
traditions" (E.Jacob: "Qualitative research traditions: a review". Review 
of Educational Research, 57(1), 1-50, 1987 and "Clarifying qualitative 
Research: A focus on traditions". Educational Researcher, 17(1), 16-24, 
1988). 

Wollcott doesn't mention Renata Tesch, who includes 26 types (!!!) of 
qualitative research in her typology in the book "Qualitative Research: 
Analysis types & Software Tools" (Falmer Press 1992).

This kind of classifications are bound to be superficial and vague. Still 
they give you an overall impression of the various ways people are 
working. The other possibility would be to define the essential 
features of qualitative research (which is what almost every textbook 
does - many times in very rhetorical manner). Third way would be to take up 
examples of qualitative research traditions and to compare 
these in terms of different epistemological positions etc. This is what Mary 
Anne Pitman and Joseph A. Maxwell do in "Qualitative Approaches to 
Evaluation: Models and Methods" (in the same handbook as Wollcott's article).

Describing the variation of qualitative research has lately 
gained popularity. Some writers have concluded that this is because the 
qualitative-quantitative opposition in about to vanish. With no enemy ahead
the unity of qualitative research might be challenged...

I asked a bit similar question here half a year ago. I got many references 
(thanks to you all who helped!) but they are not at hand now. Perhaps you 
could find them in QUALRS-archives?

Hope this helps,

Markku Lonkila
Researcher
University of Helsinki
e-mail internet: lonkila@cc.helsinki.fi
bitnet: lonkila@finuh
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From:         JENNINGT@CGSVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU
Subject:      Re: typologies
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Jean, I applaud your bravery and humility while empathically understanding
your frustration.   You received some wonderful responses to your inquiry
and I thank those who wrote.  And yet I agree with you that those of us
new to qualitative research must first map the landscape in ways which
seem reductionistic.  I struck me that most of the responses your received
were from seasoned researchers, I think we need to remember that although
they tend to reject typologies now, they leapt there from being grounded in
them.  Such is the priviledge of experience.  I think one of the rewards of
being a seasoned researcher is that you gain the ability to question the
ladders (typologies) upon which you arrived.  You can then warn those
coming up behind you which rungs to be careful of, knowing they still must
use them.  Needless to say, thank you to those who have so thoughfully
responded to Jean, we need your help.  And Jean, take heart--like being in
another country, sometimes humility and honest inquiry will reward you as
much as fluency.

P.S. I should confess that this response is catharsis after a day of
open coding.  I longed for even a little concrete among the shifting
and featureless muck.  But I have to confess, I love this stuff.

Todd.
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From:         "jean kantambu latting" <SOCW9V@UHUPVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      once upon a time....

my research world was divided into two types:  quantitative which i did
and qualitative which others did and i knew little or nothing about.
campbell and stanley was my bible.  I was a multivariate whiz.  The
world was certain and knowable.

Then i embarked upon organizational research at nearly the same time
that i became interoduced to bitnet/internet and through both learned
how little i knew about what i wanted to know and how poorly my
hypothesis-testing orientation was serving me in understanding what was
going on.

Now i am swimming in ontological, epistemological, and methodological
terms:  social constructionism, interpretive interactionism,
participatory action research, positivism, post-positivism,
post-modernism, reflexive methods, semiotics, case study research,
naturalistic inquiry, symbolic interactionism, hermeneutics, chaos theory,
focus gruop methodology, phenomenology, heuristics, ethnomethodology,
ecological constructionism, etc. etc.

I have not yet found a satisfactory typology for all of these, and for
all i know, none exists.  I find someone's typology here & there, but no
sooner do i think i have a grasp of some concept, when up pops someone
else with another which to my naive eyes is *operationally*
indistinguishable from a already named (and understood!) construct.

What is my point?  After I sent the explanation of why I had asked Gary
about the difference between semiotics and social constructionism and why
I had equated realism with positivism, I imagined someone objecting that I
was comparing apples with oranges and over-simplifying.  I guess I am
saying that I would welcome simplicity.  Once I get it all sorted and
categorized, then I can diversify and unsort.  I am not there
yet.  Favorite typologies from anyone are welcome!

Jean
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From:         "Kathy Watson" <kwatson@METZ.UNE.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Distance Learning
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The University of New England, Armidale, New South Wales has a very long history
 of Distance Education.  I am fairly new to teaching this way but am willing
to offer any assistance.  Contact me with specific questions and I'll try to
help.
KWatson, Dept. of Learning Development & Communication
University of New England, Armidale 2351 New South Wales Australia
Kwatson@metz.une.edu.au
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From:         Don Cunningham <dcunning@METZ.UNE.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: Realism=Positivism???
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              latting" at Aug 21, 92 11:33 pm

I take it back.  Gary doesn't explain things better.

By the way, I usually refer to myself as a recovering objectivist.
The comments earlier that these views are hard to accept without
having adhered at some point to the alternatives is spot on (aussie
for right on).

Gary abd I also have different views, as it says in the paper.  He
emphasizes the world has having meaning on its own terms, independent
of anyone's understanding of it.  Inquiry is then a process of discovery
of that meaning.  I suppose the flip side would stress invention and
claim that our understandings are pure constructions of the mind (reality
is just a collective hunch, as Lilly Tomlin put it).  As I said
earlier, I want to have it both ways (or neither).  Cognition or
semiosis will always be a mix of distinctions we make as observers and
the raw "stuff" that is there to form the basis of our distinctions,
some mix of discovery and invention, but probably other things as well
that we only dimly recognize because of our current models.

The reason I am attracted to semiotics is that while the usefulness
of particular approaches can be acknowledged (I want the pilot of my
plane to be a positivist), the semiotic stance is always to examine
"first principles" and point out where the mix and flux of other
considerations must always be brought to bear.  My only quarrel with
quantitative types (of whom I was a card carrying member) is that they
overlook or refuse to consider the "first principles" grounding their
methods.  So the "whom" question is important, but I encourage you
to look at it more holistically.  The "who" plays a role in making
the distinction which produces the sign, but the world is perfused
with signs.  And the separable effects of each are not isolatable
as might be proposed in some statistical models.  I also recommend
that you think or we all think collectively.  I sign is a sign
within a COMMUNITY who share the distinction on which the sign
is based.  Nothing makes that clearer than moving to a different
culture, as I am discovering (inventg) yet ag.

This couls use a good editing, but I can't from this terminal.

Good on ya.    djc
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Subject:      Re: New Distance Learning Ethics Course

Will these be used here at CMU as a class?
From: derek@AIVRU.SHEF.AC.UK (Derek Jones)
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Date: 13 Aug 92 15:45:36 GMT
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Hi,

I started to build xxgdb on an RS6000, but I'm getting tired .... !

I hand built the Xaw and Xmu stuff from /usr/lpp/mumble....
but they are missing required functions, (as is Xt 8-( 8-( ).

I spent a couple of hours iteratively patching this by hand but gave
up at 7PM last night (!).

Has anyone had xxgdb working on an RS6000 under its native X ?
Alternatively, has anyone got a patched Xt, Xaw, and Xmu with appropriate
header files?

Or is it just another "can't be done" problem ..... ?

Help !

please

Thanks

Derek Jones.

System Manager.
A.I. Vision Research Unit, Sheffield University, Western Bank,
Sheffield.  S10 2TN. U.K.
Tel: (+44) (0)742 768555 X 6551  	email:  derek@aivru.sheffield.ac.uk
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Subject: /usr filesystem
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:52:00 GMT
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AIX experts!

  Can anyone tell me how to reduce the size of the /usr filesystem?  We would
like to reduce the size in order to free up space for other filesystems on the
drive.  Is it possible to unmount /usr and still manage the filesystems?
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Tim Tyler
Network Manager -Beloit College
tyler@beloit.edu
From: ky04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (KUN YU)
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Subject: Where do I get ispell?
Date: 16 Aug 92 02:29:39 GMT
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I want to install ispell on RISK/6000 (not root, in $HOME). Where can I  get 
it? I have an impression that it is in PD. Please email.   
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From:         Klaus Wacker <wacker@AMPERE.PHYSIK.UNI-DORTMUND.DE>
Subject:      Moving an external disk

I physically moved an external disk from one of our RS6000-550 (AIX 3.2)
to another. On the new machine, I made sure the disk was 'available' as
a device and went into the smit vg menu. There I selected 'Add a Volume
Group' and went ahead. I now had an empty volume group. Unfortunately,
this is not what I wanted. I wanted to keep the data that were on the
disk. I guess I should have selected 'Import' instead of 'Add'. But when
I now 'Remove' and then 'Import', it doesn't work. Have I destroyed the
data or is there any way I can get them back?

Any help appreciated.
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From:         Joerg.Vreemann@POPSERVER.UNI-KONSTANZ.DE
Subject:      Re: DOMAIN NAME SERVER

>... in NAMED.CA have name servers that resolve
>the other addresses, but I have a problem, if I do ping harvard.edu, I wait for
> a minutes and respond me that host unknown, but if I repeat the ping harvard.e
>du, the machine answer me correctly. If I do a kill /2 pid (dumb) I see that in
> cache is that address.

try to include the adresses of the root name server(s) in named.data.
As far as I do remember IN A records in named.ca are *not* used by named.
Even then, name lookups may take some time if the names have not been
cached yet...

Joerg
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From:         Johannes Niggemeyer <JOHANIGG@DOSUNI1.BITNET>
Subject:      hft-terminal and gsl-library

Hi AIX-Experts,
we are developing an small editor on aix and have two problems.

1. Does anyone know how to turn off the AUTONL (automatic newline-mode)
   option within the hft-terminal-driver. We tried with HFWRAP-BIT within
   the hf...-structure but had no success.
2. The gsinit subroutine always returns the errorcode : "Can't access default
   font."(errorcode number -71003) Who knows help.
We are working with version 1.1 on PS/2 model 70 and 80.

                                    THANKS
                                         johannes
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              14 Aug 92 17:45:44 GMT.)
              <9208141759.AA18022@morris.hep.upenn.edu>

 Yes, go to smit under "user reg" and you can set disc quota.
 Go to info explorer and search on "TIMEOUT" to
 get logout on idle time. If you have any probs., give me a call
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              "IBM4%INDYCMS.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU" at Aug 16, 92 2:11 am

>
> There was a note about two weeks ago that mentioned where to get
> X servers for DOS and windows. I missed the location. Could some one
> please post that info again?
>
> thanks
>
The file is available by anonymous ftp at

export.lcs.mit.edu in /contrib/XServers-NonUNIX.txt.Z
ftp.uwp.edu        in /pub/misc/Xsevers-NonUNIX.txt
msdos.archive.umich.edu in /msdos/info/XServers-NonUNIX.txt and
                           /msdos/info/xnonunix.zip

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Peter Papadopoulos
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Subject:      Reducing journaled file space

In order to increasing our paging space, I need to reduced the
allocation to journaled file space.  SMIT does not allow a decrease
of file space.  Is there a reasonably simple way of reallocating
unused space on our hard disk?  (We are running AIX 3.1.5 on a
RISC 6000/520.)


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From:         Bill Williams <CMS2@ETSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: DOMAIN NAME SERVER

On Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:07:00 EST <XHIDALGO@ECUAFUN> said:
>...stuff deleted...  but I have a problem, if I do ping harvard.edu, I wait for
> a minutes and respond me that host unknown, but if I repeat the ping harvard.e
>du, the machine answer me correctly. If I do a kill /2 pid (dumb) I see that in
> cache is that address. What should I do to have in the first try the answer?

I am no guru on this stuff and am speaking of my local (ETSU) network
only.  We (the Network Specialist here and I) have noticed that for one
specific node the first ping fails about 99% of the time; however, a
second ping comes right back.  (This particular node is a vax/vms system
on the ethernet side of a ethernet-token.ring router bridge.)  We don't
know why this is, and it is currently not a problem for us.

Just thought you'd like to know that you ain't the only one seeing this
behavior.

 ---------------------------------------
   Bill Williams -- ETSU Systems Support
    East
    Tennessee             (615) 929-6853
    State
    University        <CMS2@ETSU.BITNET>
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