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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Neat AGV helmet on TV (I wish... list)
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 18 Dec 92 10:55:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


-> :  In the story, the noise canceller was used for a variety of
-> nefarious : purposes, culminating when a group of DoD-types began
-> using the device : to cancel lectures in colleges.

> Hey!  The Denizens are a cultured and erudite lot and would never try
> to interfere with someone's education.  Jeeze, the misunderstanding
> of the masses . . .

 Nonsense!  After a hard night of raping and pillaging, who wants to
listen to some goober mutter up at the lectern?  Being too wasted to
simply go up there and kill him (1), our hypothetical DoD member simply
pushes the button and the lecturer is on "mute".


(1) If not too wasted to move, he's still be raping and pillaging.
                                
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: crpresto@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Charlie Preston)
Subject: Re: Locking rear (was Re: First ride in rain...)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:30:40 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University

In article <Bz9CoA.49s@news.cso.uiuc.edu> vwelch@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Von Welch) writes:
>
>Raises a question I have...I know that in the MSF course they say to leave
>the rear locked if you lock it, and look straight ahead and you'll go straight.
>
That recommendation applies to level dry pavement.  I've seen the rear wheel
skid exercise performed on a range with a slight slope.  The rear wheel tends
to go in the down-hill direction about 50% of the time (or more).  When there
is less traction available (i.e., not level dry pavement) and the rear wheel
skids the MSF recommends releasing the rear brake immediately and reapplying
the brake.

-- 
Chas                         DoD #7769

"Oh, how can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all?"
                                               - Firesign Theatre
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bigdog!jon (Jon Wright)
Subject: Re: V-65 Sabre or 500 Interceptor
Organization: Banzai Research Institute
Distribution: world,local
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:23:59 GMT

evans@ece.arizona.edu writes
> 
> I am currently looking around for either bike in GOOD
> condition.  Does anyone have any info?
> 
> glen evans


Yup, there's an excellent example in Performance Motorcycles of an Interceptor.   
High mileage but fastidiously cared for.  The owner was (I kid you not) a  
great-grandmother of 60 or so that just put highway miles on it.  She's the  
president of the Honda Sport Riders Assoc. down here in San Diego.  Selling it  
for a '92 Seca II.  Phone Steve @ 619.271.7731.

No I don't own Performance.
From: vinceg@mcdbos.UUCP (Vince Grove)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Date: 10 Dec 92 21:31:21 GMT
Reply-To: vinceg@mcdbos.UUCP (Vince Grove)
Organization: Motorola Microcomputer Division, Woburn, MA

In article <1992Dec6.235408.2420@rtsg.mot.com> svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:
>
>Let me get this straight, now.  You feel that you don't have the wisdom
>and willpower to wear a helmet, so you want to pass a law which makes
>ME wear a helmet????  Have you ever heard of the concept of personal
>responsibility?
>
>Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com)    | "I just can't take

What do you think of the idea of making people who assume "personal
responsibility" to also assume personal responsibility for any medical
expenses incurred due to an accident.

I have no problem with libertarianism as long as I don't have to pay for
it.

vg


-- 
Vince Grove				Motorola Computer Group
vinceg@bos.mcd.mot.com			300 Unicorn Park
617-932-1195				Woburn, MA 01801
From: frank@marvin.contex.com (Frank Perdicaro)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Federal extortion nets helmet law!
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:13:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Xyvision Design Systems

In article <1992Dec16.221851.11356@rtsg.mot.com> svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:
>Couldn't agree more.  But personally, I think the biggest crime 
>the Congress and Prez is committing is that of ignoring the tenth
>amendment, which limits the powers of the federal government to 
>those specifically deliniated by the Constitution.  They seem to
>think instead that if the Constitution doesn't specifically FORBID
>them from doing something, it's okay.
>

Its even worse than that.  All it takes is a bit of history and law, 
like one semester each, and you will find that the Feds have passed
laws, and much more obviously and blatantly regulations,  that are 
actually FORBIDDEN by the Constitution.  The easiest example is the
whole area of the Second Amendment.  

I will only say that some of the actions of late of the Feds would
have resulted in federal officials 'hung from their necks until dead'
a century or more ago.

-- 
	 Frank E Perdicaro, Systems Admin, etc.		Xyvision Color Systems
      Legalize guns, drugs and cash...today.		101 Edgewater Drive
   inhouse: frank@marvin, x5572				Wakefield MA
outhouse: frank@contex.com, 617-245-4100x5572		018801285
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: howland@noc2.arc.nasa.gov (Matzoa Castrati Chorus)
Subject: Small Persicuted Animals (was Re: water-proofing gloves)
Organization: NASA Science Internet Project Office
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 15:55:50 GMT

In article <527.2B277EE9@kennel.FIDONET.ORG>, 
Michael.Nelson@f20.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Nelson) writes:

|>  >>> Say, if mink oil comes from minks, where do we get baby oil?

|>  >> Dead baby dinosaurs.

|>  CP-> You're both 'way off.  Haven't you ever had to lubricate a
|>  CP-> squeaky mink?  Or a screeching baby?

|>     What *I* want to know is:

|>     What the f**k is a "Neats", and why do they have such oily feet?

Not sure why, but they are members of the Nauga species,
cousin to the matzoa. Small creatures that are rarely 
picked out for nature studies due to the atrocious uses
people have put them through for thousands of years.

:^> 

ObGetABikeEd: ...Naaaa, I'll leave it alone this time.

Curt
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:42109 misc.forsale:33701
From: ynecelc@sx.mont.nec.com (Ellison Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,misc.forsale
Subject: Re: Radar Gun For Sale
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:13:19 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: HNSX Supercomputers

In article <1992Dec17.161455.28428@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.234211.10815@advtech.uswest.com> ltp@uswest.com (Halfman-Halfmachine) writes:
>>I have a radar gun that I no longer use and would like to 
>>see it go to a good home. I don't have any idea what brand
>
>This would almost be worth the $200, just to be able to make
>everyone's brake lights flash on the Interstate... :')
>-- 
>Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
>jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
>        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
>       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.

If you don't plan on having children in the furture. :)
-- 
Ellison Chan, Comp. Sys. Analyst               2350 Place TransCanadienne
HNSX Supercomputers Inc., NEC Corp.        Dorval, Quebec, Canada H9P 2X5
E-mail: ellison@SX.Mont.NEC.COM          (514)684-7705, FAX (514)684-8619
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Hotsenhander Holdergrippen (was Re: water-proofing gloves)
Keywords:  ROT26, Typodermic riddles 
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:15:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.221346.29311@emr1.emr.ca> spindler@emr1.emr.ca (Chris Spindler) writes:
|
|Heated grips.  If it's cold and your gloves are wet, your hands don't
|freeze (as easily).  I've just recently ridden over 100km in a downpour
|which left puddles in the fingertips of my gloves (it was about +5C, on the
|last weekend in November).

I've read before of the wonders of these, uh, wonders here, uh, before. But 
every time someone mentions how, um, wonderful heated grips are, it seems 
that they are on one of those weird Bavarian things.  Can the rest of the 
world refit BMW heated grips on their favorite Asian rubber shredder?  Do you
have to speak German to buy them?  Does anyone else make heated grips, maybe
in a language I know?

Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com)    | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905  DoD #0330  COG 939  (Chicago)   |   -- Evo Woman
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bigdog!jon (Jon Wright)
Subject: Re: Attention electric vest owners!
Organization: Banzai Research Institute
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:20:38 GMT

Jody Levine writes
> In article <1992Dec14.015518.13352@netcom.com> avery@netcom.com (Avery Ray  
Colter) writes:
> >What are you wearing over and under your vest?
> 
> Outside in:
> 
> rainsuit (if necessary), leather, sweatshirt, VEST, whatever I want to be 
> seen in when I get where I'm going, bra

What if you want to be seen in your bra?

Stupid question....
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: Attention electric vest owners!
Summary: it's uncomfortable when they bounce around too much 
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 20:02:27 GMT

jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
>>bigdog!jon (Jon Wright) writes:
>>>
>>>What if you want to be seen in your bra?
>>
>>Why, are you thinking of buying one?
>
>Is yours for sale?

Everything is for sale. It just depends on the offer. Once, someone tried to 
buy the RZ for $3k while I was preparing to leave a parking lot. I should have
taken it, but I was tired and didn't feel like taking the bus home. Someone
asked me how much I wanted for the Radian while I was waiting for a light
to change, but traffic started moving before the negotiations finished. 
Imagine, now, if we actually washed the bikes once in a while! I'd be rich!
Bikeless, though...nah, forget it.

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
From: marrevola@rediris.es
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Did the EC hp-limit pass ?
Date: 14 Dec 92 10:01:55 +0100
Distribution: rec
Organization: REDIRIS, Red Nacional de I+D

In article <43P9X5V@netmbx.netmbx.de>, fischer@netmbx.netmbx.de (Axel Fischer) writes:
> According to my informations the European Wide HP Limit On Motorcycle will
> begin 1st of August. No bikes will be homologated with more than 100 hp
> after that date.


SHIT!!!!

-- 
Manuel Arrevola Velasco   ||||| True e-mail: manolo@taf.fundesco.es |||||
ZX-11
DR-600-S           
DoD #1033

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: spindler@emr1.emr.ca (Chris Spindler)
Subject: Re: Cell phones
Organization: Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:18:04 GMT

bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca writes:
>brady_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Brady) writes:
>> cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
>>>
>  (various stuff about different people who can't drive...)
>
>>>4) Jerry (our pet name for geriatrics -- people who are quite slow,
>> my dad in Tampa, Florida is dealing with the LOX's on I-4 and the other
                                                ^^^
Must be terribly slippery with all that salmon all over the roads.

>white hat (and almost always driving a large American car like a big old Ford
>LTD).  8-)

If they're wearing a hat and driving an LTD, I'd call 'em Mounties
and slow down :-)

-- 
Chris Spindler   Seismologist @ Large  |  Staring into a computer screen is  
'91 550 Zephyr    - - - - - - -  o     |  like staring into an eclipse.  It's
'91 K75RT       - - - - - - -  _/\_>   |  brilliant and you don't realize
 DoD #6371    - - - - - - -   O,> / O  |  the damage until it's too late.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Subject: Re: Radar Gun For Sale
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 09:16:44 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.

tkpowell@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Terry Powell) writes:

>Its really hard for me to believe there are lots of cages traveling over
>100mph down any road in America, especially one that is heavily used.  Me
>thinks you are exaggerating.  Sounds like you need to pay more attention
>to your mirrors or get with the program irregardless of the speed.  

Methinks this fellow does not get out and about much.  Come to Atlanta,
Terry, and take a spin around I-285 during non-rush hours.  Average
speed is around 80 mph.  I REGULARLY cruise in the 90-100 mph range.
There are so many cars using 285 that the cops rarely bother traffic
except when they need to harvest some $$$.

BTW, when you come, bring your radar detector and let me know when.
I need some fresh meat from which to troll taillights with my
trusty Kustom HR-8 radar gun.  Oh, and what's an "irregardless"?
It's not a word.

John
-- 
John De Armond, WD4OQC               |Interested in high performance mobility?  
Performance Engineering Magazine(TM) | Interested in high tech and computers? 
Marietta, Ga                         | Send ur snail-mail address to 
jgd@dixie.com                        | perform@dixie.com for a free sample mag
Need Usenet public Access in Atlanta?  Write Me for info on Dixie.com.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: kapp@bnr.ca
Subject: Info needed on Non-U.S. bikes
Organization: Bell Northern Research
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:31:53 GMT

I am seeking some info on 400cc 4 strokes or 250cc 2-strokes that are available
in Japan (or elsewhere) but not over here (U.S.)  What I would like is a
comparison between different bikes and a list of features that would
distinguish one from another (like how does the '92 CBR400RR compare against
the '92 ZXR400R, does it have upside down forks or what, and is there any
changes planned for '93.)

Anyone know where I can get this info?  Any ideas on how these bikes compare
against a '90 FZR400 or CB-1?

Thanks

Kris Kapp
kapp@bnr.ca

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dwjurkat@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Jurkat)
Subject: Dead battery
Keywords: battery alternator 
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 12:33:36 EST

I just got a 1981 Honda CB750 Custom.
Symptom:  Bike started fine and ran fine.  Then I dropped it on some
ice and it took me ten minutes to right it.  After another ten minutes
it wasn't flooded anymore and I could start it.  I then rode about
half an hour to get home.  No problems so far.  I turned it off, opened
the garage, and then tried to start it again so I could put it in.
The bike only gave a whimpy starting noise and just sat there.
I took the battery out.  Three cells one one side were totally dry. The
other three cells had varying amounts of solution in them.  I do not 
know what condition the battery was in prior to this, but it had always
(a week) started without any problem.
I added distilled water and charged it for about five hours at 0.9 amps to
0.45 amps.  Hydrometer still showed in the red (read discharged).
I put the battery back in the bike and it started fine.  I rode for about
an hour (mostly city driving) and had same symptom as the previous night.
It wouldn't turn over when I tried to restart it to put in the garage.
Also I noticed that the headlight started to get dimmer throughout the
hour of riding.
Since I only had the bike for a couple of weeks and with the Syracuse
weather didn't get to ride it much, here are some questions:
Did having the bike on its side for a good ten minutes have an adverse
effect on the battery (the battery appears to have an overflow with a
rubber tube attached to it)?
Also the three cells closest to the top (when on its side) were dry.
When I charged it I hoped that adding so much distilled water was
responsible for the red reading.  So I am charging it again and will
take another reading tonight.  This time I did not need to add water.
How do I check theo alternator output?  And does this work with or 
without a battery; or with or without a good battery (in case this one
is near dead)?
BTW the battery charger is a cage ten ampere charger and I connected
a resister in series with it so the charging rate stayed below 1.5 Amps.
  Thank you!
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tgent@dale.ksc.nasa.gov (Tom Gent)
Subject: Re: Attention electric vest owners!
Organization: NASA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:11:53 GMT

In article <75518@apple.apple.COM> thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson) writes:
>
>Yes, but the unit is clumsy, expensive, steals some of the bike's power
>that could have gone to the vest, and doesn't solve the draining the
>battery while idling problem.
>-- 
>Paul Thompson    Apple Computer    DoD #47    Would you remember a 1-line .sig?

Has anyone yet suggested a relay picked up by the neutral light wire?
Oh, and it would be the normally closed contacts, by the way.

You *do* put it in neutral at traffic lights, right?

Tom Gent  (0-line .sig)
From: leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Anybody know what became of Vetter? Still in business?
Date: 21 Dec 92 04:09:28 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Cafe at the Edge of the Universe

robert@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Robert Kennedy) writes:
>The subject line says it all; I'm curious about getting parts for my
>Vetter Quicksilver fairing. Someone at a local shop once mumbled
>something about Vetter being out of business. Are they? 

They were bought out by Bell around 1987.  Bell proceded to drop the
fairing/hard luggage line, and merely used the Vetter name on a line
of helmets, soft bags, etc. for a number of years.  I think they may
have stopped using the name altogether now.

By 1987, If you wanted a dressed touring rig, you bought one.  Very
few people were dressing their own bare-bone bikes anymore - probably
what led to the sale of Vetter in the first place.

>Where can I get parts?

Anywhere you can find them!  Most dealerships have long since been
picked clean.  Try boneyards, and ask at every dealership you come
across.  You might have better luck finding Quicksilver parts than
I do for Windjammer parts (higher sales volume == higher demand).

Mr. Bill
-- 
 /    Spoken: Bill Leavitt    \ / ICOA 3193 \ / 82 Honda CBX White Lightning \
| UUCP: ...uunet!mimsy!leavitt | AMA 0313707 | ==82 Suzuki GS850GZ Suzibago== |
 \ Domain: leavitt@cs.umd.edu / \  DoD 224  / \ 76 Honda CJ360T Little Honda /
From: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: A good motorcycle repair book (Q)
Date: 14 Dec 92 08:05:50 -0800
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <1992Dec14.072447.21912@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, jwas_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jason Wasson) writes:
> Can anyone suggest a book or two that deals with all aspects of motorcycle
> repair for the beginner. I've checked the local bookstore but they only had
> one book and it didn't seem very good. 
> 
How about a 'Clymers' manual? I went to the local library and photocopied the
pages relevant to my Seca for about $5. This manual covers both general
maintenance and specific repairs for a variety of bikes in any given year....

Bruce
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Neat AGV helmet on TV (I wish... list)
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:16:11 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 7865@eos.arc.nasa.gov, phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Phil Stone) writes:

[noise cancellation device]

>By
>virtue of their design, they are limited to cancelling low and mid-range
>frequencies, but I have a hunch that they would work well enough to 
>eliminate the need for earplugs. 

The obvious question is what about horns?  I guess the squeaky little
MG horn is high frequency, but what about the blast from a semi?

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Locking the rear wheel. (Was: First ri
Date: 17 Dec 1992 21:59:52 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 16469@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU, cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.114059.12739@aber.ac.uk> azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward) writes:
>
>>My question - how many folk have actually come to grief by locking the back,
>>and how many just spout the party line? The theory seems good, but the 
>>practice doesnt seem to bear it out.
>
>I've locked the rear and let it go maybe four or five times.  

I've locked the rear and let it go with no ill effect, and I've locked
it up and let it go and tossed my ass over the handlebars, taking a
solidly mounted mirror off with my chest.

After some parking lot practice, I determined the rear wasn't a whole
lot of help, and I pretty much ignore it except in the wet or on
gravel.

How's that for spouting a party line?  :^)

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,misc.forsale
From: laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth)
Subject: Re: Radar Gun For Sale 
Organization: University of Colorado Boulder, Pizza Disposal Group
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:38:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.161455.28428@i88.isc.com>, jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec16.234211.10815@advtech.uswest.com> ltp@uswest.com (Halfman-Halfmachine) writes:
|> >I have a radar gun that I no longer use and would like to 
|> >see it go to a good home. I don't have any idea what brand
|> 
|> This would almost be worth the $200, just to be able to make
|> everyone's brake lights flash on the Interstate... :')


just think of it you could hook it inline with your horn.
every saab/porch/volvo owner would slam on their brakes
every time you hit the horn............altho i'm not sure 
i would want to be around the idoits as the scan for the
cop car while weaving all over the road......then again
you could also hook it inline with your radar detector......
every time a cop hits you with radar you send back a "bounce"
signal.....

but officer this bike doesn't DO 105mph, yes i know it COULD
go that fast, yes i have tried to go that fast it just didn't work,
look officer THIS is a 50cc YSR it doesn't go faster then 50,
yeah i know it looks like a sport bike but really its just a
toy..............


laz
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: spindler@emr1.emr.ca (Chris Spindler)
Subject: Re: Toronto Motorcycle Show
Organization: Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:07:34 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.045807.775@elektro.cmhnet.org> charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes:

>In article <1992Dec11.150904.22196@rd.hydro.on.ca> jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:

>>**** This article was ristricted to Ontario. **** 
>>If you're not in Ontario, I'm deeply sorry. :-)

>Hey Jody, do you think us down here might not like to see the bike shows <?>
>   or are there secrets on display there that we can't have down here.

Yup.  Like the new Suzuki RF600R - those of you in the USA will have to
wait until 1994.  :-)

-- 
Chris Spindler   Seismologist @ Large  |  Staring into a computer screen is  
'91 550 Zephyr    - - - - - - -  o     |  like staring into an eclipse.  It's
'91 K75RT       - - - - - - -  _/\_>   |  brilliant and you don't realize
 DoD #6371    - - - - - - -   O,> / O  |  the damage until it's too late.