From: s14258bc@UMASSD.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: A German who was in Greece
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:32:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: umassd.BvvA6t.82s
Reply-To: s14258bc@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.

In article <9210010613.AA06830@sungate.icsmac.com>, gunther.neuberger@icsmac4.icsmac.COM (GUNTHER NEUBERGER) writes:
>--------------------I wrote-----------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Hello everybody,
>> I am new in this newsgroup.For the last three weeks I have read hundreds of
>> articles on the Macedonia issue and I think it's the funniest thing
>> in the last century.As I got deeper and deeper into the discussions 
>> I realized that Greek opinions carry some sort of paranoia which can
>> be best summarized as the territorial claims on Greece by Macedonia,
>> where some organizations at the extreme right in Macedonia are held
>> responsible.That's really funny.How can such a small country claim land
>> from Greece? Aggressive policies of the greek government have made the
>> situation impossible to solve.
>> I was in Greece two months ago.Me and my girlfriend visited some Greek
>> islands which were wonderful but one thing really bothered me.
>> The sentence,"Macedonia is Greek" was written on almost everything I saw.
>> They had even written this sentence on the walls of public restrooms,
>> on the closets and doors of these restrooms.
>> It seemed as if whomever I met in Greece was more than eager to say
>> something bad about Macedonia and Turkey.
>> I have also visited Turkey.Before we flew to Istanbul,many Greeks warned
>> me to be careful about my girlfriend!.After being in Istanbul we realized
>> how silly and wrong this warning was.I really don't know why Greeks 
>> behave like this?
>> 
>-------------------------------Miss Perena wrote------------------------------
>-I am impressed to hear a German talking about prejudice of Greeks against
>-Turks and Skopjians! It is well known that the Germans are the ones obsessed
>-with foreigners (especially Turks). At least the Greeks do not KILL Turks, as
>-the Germans do. 
>-Please, next time try not to be so naive and prevent yourself from criticising
>-without having sufficient knowledge of the subject. Serious criticism is 
>-always welcome.
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>
>Miss Perena,First of all,I would like to thank you for replying to me.
>Unfortunately I got confused when I read your article.As you know,
>(or don't you?), this newsgroup is a place to discuss on subjects,freely.
>As a netter,I told my opinions and observations about the Macedonia issue.
>They were solely my opinions.But I really didn't understand what you meant
>by saying, "next time try not to be so naive and prevent yourself from 
>criticising WITHOUT HAVING SUFFICIENT KNOWLEDGE OF THE SUBJECT",for I think
>anyone is entitled to express his/her view on this network,not just 
>experts(whomever they may or claim to be).Secondly,your comment indicates that
>you really haven't read most of the postings on this newsgroup since most of
>them ARE purely one-sided,prejudiced criticisms.
>I would like to ask you a specific question:"IS THIS YOUR OPINION ABOUT
>DEMOCRACY?,EXPRESSED AS "SHUT UP!YOU DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THIS SUBJECT".
>I would like to invite you to reviewe your understanding of democracy.
>You mean,my criticism is not serious.And what makes you so qualified to act
>as the judge of this newsgroup??.Probably not your nothing but childish and
>reactive comment,"At least the Greeks do not KILL Turks, as the Germans do".
>Anyway,as I told earlier,those were my opinions in light of my observations 
>in Greece.
>
>Sorry if the truth insulted you.
>
>  	Viele Gruesse,
>
>
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>|  Gunther Neuberger                         |  gunther.neuberger@icsmac.com  |
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