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From: collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: What do cats prefer? House or Owner (owned)?
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:25:16 GMT
Reply-To: collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <cosulliv.716067808@sfu.ca> cosulliv@fraser.sfu.ca (Christina Marie O'Sullivan) writes:
>The day is rapidly approaching when I will leave the nest.  In the 
>extremely fortunate circumstance that I may actually find a place
>in which cats are permitted, I would of course want to take my
>little one with me.  Only I have to ask: which is the least
>traumatic for a middle-aged (8) cat -- packing up and leaving
>his estate or staying on his territory abandoned by his "special
>person"?

In my opinion, it depends on the relationship the cat has with your 
parents.  If it feels as close to one or more of them as it does to 
you (or even more close to them), then I would leave the cat.  That
is, of course, if your parents would approve of that idea.  Just 
remember that a _family_ cat may not necessarily be the child's cat.

If your parents would prefer that you to take the cat, then regardless 
of it's feelings for them, I would think you should take it with you.
I believe it is important for the cat to be "wanted".

I went thru this, ages ago, when I graduated from school and got my
first real job and permanent apartment.  My cat loved my parents as 
much as he did me.  (I even bought them another one to take his place,
but neither the cat, nor my parents, "bought it". ;-) )  My cat ended
up staying with my parents and I was given a black-smoke persian kitten,
by a friend who knew I was having to leave my Sebastian.  I named her
Scheherazade and we drove to "grandma's" many weekends, to see my parents
and the cats.  ;-)  She loved riding in the car and would go sit on my
suitcase until I was ready to pick her up and walk out the door.  That was
back in the '70s and Scheherazade is gone now, but we had a wonderful life
together.  She was always _my_ cat and she just "visited" my parents.

I am certain that my situation turned out for the best, for all of us.
Whatever you decide, I hope your situation does, too. :-)


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From: sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu (Maven o'Mirth)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: What to do with cat while on vacation
Keywords: cat, vacation, live-in
Date: 10 Sep 92 03:44:19 GMT
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

[post about hiring a live-in cat sitter deleted]

I thought I would provide an alternative point of view here, since the
majority of people seem most concerned that a cat-sitter/house-sitter will
neglect their animals attention-wise...

When I lived at home our neighbors up the hill had three cats, two dogs,
two birds, two horses, and various and sundry wild animals which came to
their place to feed.  They went to Mexico annually, as well as on several
weekend trips.  Each time they went, I moved into their house for the
duration of the trip.

Ultimately I became a regular because I took the best care of the animals
and the house (beating out other neighbor kids)--but do not underestimate
the attraction a house to oneself has to an older *responsible* high
school or college student.  Letting someone stay in your house not only
secures it against breakins associated with an obvious long absence, but
also guarantees that the animals are kept company and watched at all times
(or at least as much as they would be if you were home).  Do screen your
potential house-sitters for responsibility...know them well enough to know
they are animal lovers or else get references and check them...but it
really isn't as difficult as you think to find someone who would love to
take care of your house and your pets.

:)

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com (PuterDude)
Subject: OH NO!!!
Summary: new kitten
Keywords: suicide  :)
Organization: Organized? Just look at my desk!
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:17:27 GMT

Sunday morning. 10 AM. Wife looks out window.

Her: "Aw, look, hon. There's a little kitten. He looks so hungry. I wonder
if he's a stray?"

Me: "Probably. Looks kinda ugly in the face, don't he?"

Her: "He doesn't look as if he belongs to anyone. And he's so LITTLE! I'll
bet he's starvin'. What do ya think. Wanna feed him?"

Me: "Now, you KNOW what happened the last time we did that. Ended up 
keepin' the thing."

Her: "Well, we'll just feed this one, and I'll take him to the Vet on
Tuesday. Maybe they can do somethin' with him."

Me: "Yeah, _right_."

	Announcin' a brand-new addition. 6wks old, orange-and-white striped
DLH male. Came with ~40 fleas, an indeterminate number of ear mites, U-G-L-Y
face, motor as loud as a jackhammer, and a hunger that will send us to the
poorhouse. Condolences may be sent to....

	Save Puter Before He Kills Himself Because of ANOTHER Kitten
	P.O Box WhyDoesSheDoSuchThings
	HelpMeOut, Tn.

P.S. If anyone finds my marbles, keep them. The kitten's name is Data.

P.P.S. Yes, that is Data's favorite pasttime...  PP's   :)

Levi, Spock, Data, Vincent, Oscar, Larry, and Tigger
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty)
Subject: Re: What we say; what cats hear
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation -- Denver, Colorado
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:01:16 GMT

bdm@druwa.ATT.COM (Brian Millham) writes:
: in article <1992Sep4.223209.28517@infonode.ingr.com>, maverick@topgun.b29.ingr.com (Mike Sorrelle) says:
: 
: >     What we say to cats:
: ...
: >     What they hear:
: ...
: 
: Actually, that brings up an interesting question:  What do they hear?
: 
: When I first got Fletch, it didn't take me long to learn that he knew
: what hungry meant.  After I figured that out, I remembered hearing
: somewhere that cats only understand the first syllable of any word,
: so I did an experiment:  I asked Fletch if he was "Well Hung?"
: He claims that he is. :-)
: 
: So, if you have a cat that understands a multi-syllable word, try just the
: first syllable of what word, and check the reaction.

Christopher's favorite word in the world is "hungry!"  I ask the question 
"Who's hungry?" before dinner time to set him off on the run for the kitchen.
However, asking "Who's angry?" gets the identical response - in fact saying
"Who's..." will usually bring him to attention.


Kathy
From: dg0q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Diane Gibson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Was (Please Help: I think my cat is ill)
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:13:34 GMT
	<1992Sep1.172215.16972@pbs.org>
Distribution: na
Organization: Business Systems, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

In article jlecher@pbs.org writes:

>.....When I was still living at home, our old cat Tribble started to
have teeth
>trouble, and didn't like to eat cold cat food. My father would get the food
>out of the fridge, fill the dish, and microwave it to warm it up a little.
>That cat just loved him to death.     ====================================

Doesn't everyone do this?  My cat comes running to the sound of the can
opener AND the microwave.

Diane and Suki
Carnegie Mellon University
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty)
Subject: Re: VET says "Dry/Wet food combo bad for cats"...?
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation -- Denver, Colorado
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 03:32:37 GMT

I have never heard of this, and my vet RECOMMENDS a mix for several
reasons. First of all, getting only canned food is bad for their
teeth because they will tend to get worse tartar build-up. Second,
they may get nutrients from both that is missing from one or the
other. For this reason, I also like to feed them different brands,
as well. Third, if they are healthy and happy with their diet, why
mess up a good thing?


Kathy
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: C11815@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Josette Giacobbi)
Subject: Re: What we say; what cats hear
Organization: Motorola
Date: 11 Sep 1992 15:29:33 CDT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: steveg@teal.csn.org (Steve Genoff)
Subject: Re: What we say; what cats hear
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:08:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.170116.9116@auto-trol.com> katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Bea
>bdm@druwa.ATT.COM (Brian Millham) writes:
>: in article <1992Sep4.223209.28517@infonode.ingr.com>, maverick@topgun.b29.ing
>: >     What we say to cats:
>: >     What they hear:
>: Actually, that brings up an interesting question:  What do they hear?
>:
 [...]
>:
>: So, if you have a cat that understands a multi-syllable word, try just the
>: first syllable of what word, and check the reaction.
>

  Chunky knows what is meant when I say "kitty treat".  His ears perk up,
his irises dilate, and he knows I am about to give him some Bonkers or
something similar.  He does NOT react this way if I just say 'kitty'.
Some would say it's just pavlovian, but i'm sure everyone will agree with
me in saying that this demonstrates cats are intelligent.  (As if there was
 any doubt).



   STeve

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Steve, my cat know the word "treats" also.  He gets Wisker Lickins soft
treats.  If he is outside, and won't come in the house for my husband, I
will go out there and say "Come on Sam, mama's got TREATS" and he comes
running in.  He "sits", "gives you his paw" and wants his TREATS. josette
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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (exuptr@exu.ericsson.se)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: SPLASH!!
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:56:33 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Sep10.192957.5374@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jlc5f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jean L. Cooper) writes:
>From: jlc5f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jean L. Cooper)
>Subject: Re: SPLASH!!
>Date: 10 Sep 92 19:29:57 GMT

>Lizzie loved to watch the toilet flush when she
>was a kitten--she'd walk around on the toilet seat 
>watching the action.  Well, one day she slipped and
>fell in while the water was still being flushed out.  
>Luckily, she managed to hold on to the toilet 
>seat with her front paws, and also luckily, my mother
>happened to be in the bathroom at that moment and
>scooped her out.  She hasn't been interested in toilets
>flushing since.
>--
>Jean L. Cooper    (BITNET: JLC5F@virginia.edu   CIS: 70253,1114)
>"The true University of these days is a Collection of Books." 
>                                           --Carlyle                        

While we're on this subject I've heard somewhere you can train cats to use 
the "John".  Has anybody heard about this?
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: hamon@a.cs.okstate.edu (HAMON SHARON ANN)
Subject: Re: How NOT to impress your girlfriend
Organization: Oklahoma State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 00:12:51 GMT

>Well....here comes Smokey! 
>WHOOF!
>long persian tail come back out of the candle flame and self extinguish...

Is this cat appropriately named, or what? ;-)  My folks have a dog named
Stormy who later developed a fear of thunder.  Talk about self-fulfilling
prophecies!

BTW, Stormy's tail once caught on fire also, but that's another story!

--Sharon
From: donrm@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Don Montgomery)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Crippled kitty
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:49:02 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA

In rec.pets.cats, <FHSKRS@BYUVM.BITNET> writes:

   >If it didn't heal itself, did the cat learn to adjust?  Have you had
   > experience with a cat with 3 legs?  Captain Midnight is getting around

We used to have a farm cat with a missing back leg - she got run over by
a power sickel bar while mowing alfalfa.  She didn't seem to notice her
leg missing judging by the speed she could make running after barnyard
intruders.

From the number of animals named "Tripod" I've seen on rec.pets.*, I'd
say there were a lot of pets running around with a messing limb.

Don Montgomery, Santa Rosa, CA
donrm@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: debbiek@rruxc.uucp (25670s-kennedy)
Subject: Re: What do cats prefer? House or Owner (owned)?
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 21:40:56 GMT

> Well, I would have to say the owner.  My mother unloaded "my" cat
> Steve onto me as soon as possible, she could take no more of him.
> I of course, had wanted him for some time but wasn't able to be-
> cause of roommates who insisted on owning large dogs.  I took Steve
> when he was about 6 from a home that he hadn't left except for vet
> visits his entire life.  He was terrified.  He got over  it.  The
> first time he moved to a new home he hid under my bed for 3 days.
> Cat

Wow, I just had to pop in to say that is EXACTLY what my cat did!
3 Days Under My Bed!  
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                                I feel much better.
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From: lruben@persian.csd.sgi.com (Lara Ruben)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: help-my cat is driving me crazy!!
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:27:06 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

I am a relatively new subscriber to this newsgroup, so I apologize if this
topic has been discussed in the past.  I have a 15 year old shaded golden
persian, Theodore, who is driving me up the wall with his constant habit of
trying to lick my face and hair.  It's especially annoying when he does it
repeatedly in the middle of the night, and his bad breath (he has kidney
disease) makes it even more unbearable.

Has anyone out there ever had a cat that does this?  Theodore got lead
poisoning a few years ago, and it was after that incident that he became
obsessive about licking my hair and face.  I thought maybe his change in
diet to k/d dry food and baby food had something to do with it, but the
vets I've asked always say no.  They suggested putting a little salt
substitute in his food to see if that helped the problem, but it didn't so
I quit doing that.  It's gotten so bad that I started bringing his food and
water into the bedroom so I can just toss him off the bed each time he
bothers me.  After a few tosses, he eats a little bit and then leaves me
alone for a few hours.  I guess I should feel fortunate that I don't have
the major flea problems that Terri Rivken is having, butif anybody has any
advice, I'd sure appreciate it!

Also, Theodore gets daily doses of Nutrical, so his vitamin level should be
satisfactory.  And his annual blood tests some out normal except for the
reduced kidney function.

Dreading a weekend of Theo's rough tongue on my face...


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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jlevy@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (janet.s.levy)
Subject: Kitty with Cold - Update
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:42:34 GMT


My kitty with a cold was spayed today (this morning - now it's
afternoon).  She's doing OK.  Thanks to everyone who wrote to
offer some support for this nervous Mom.  I still have some
worry that she'll get an infection, but I'm basically feeling
much relieved that this is behind us.  I had my year-old kitten
spayed earlier this year, and she bounced back in no time.  Nokomis
was tearing around the house two days later.  The vet says Pumpkin
might be a little slower to recover than young Nokie.  Hey!  I
had the same operation and I was laid up for four weeks!  Cats
are tough critters.

Thanks again to my pet support network,

Janet Levy
jsl@ihlpm.ATT.COM
From: charlesv@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (Charles Van Duren)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Driving x-country w/ Cat. Suggestions
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:48:31 GMT

robandtp@prsun.Cyanamid.COM (Paul Robandt) writes:

>In article 6221@iscsvax.uni.edu, klier@iscsvax.uni.edu () writes:
>>robandtp@prsun.Cyanamid.COM (Paul Robandt) writes:

[...info about drugs deleted...]

>Thanks for the good info on acepromazine.  The real point is that my
>experience with drugging my cats has _not_ been good.  Now I know that
>I'll never consider using it on them again.  I believe one should
>take the time to acclimate the animal to the car and trying to calm them, 
>rather than stuffing a pill down their throats to make travelling with
>them convenient.

We at one time tried to give our cat trancs on the first of three trips
cross-country. No way. All three of us were totally frazzled by the time
we started driving.

We found that drugging the human (not the one driving) worked best.
Judith got a prescription for valium, one a day, to last for five days.
She'd pop one in the morning before starting out. Since the kitty was
definitely into contact highs and lows, this worked like a charm. She'd
occasionally get vocal, and would have to be settled down again, but
most of the time she was quite happy to look out the window at the world
going by.

She was a wonderful cat. When we stopped to stretch, she'd explore
around, but be back in the truck before we were. At motels we'd leave the
door open so she could get some air and exercise. We never had to hunt
for her, or worry about her getting lost.

CvD
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From: ericj@hwcae.Honeywell.COM (Eric Jacobsen)
Subject: Re: bathtubs
Organization: Honeywell, Air Transport Division; Phoenix, AZ
	<67744@hydra.gatech.EDU> <1992Sep10.174008.25169@webo.dg.com>
	<1992Sep11.231844.24349@cs.yale.edu>
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 00:41:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.231844.24349@cs.yale.edu> loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore) writes:

   stan@etgn05.rtp.dg.com (Stan Yen) writes:

	Drawing at Audience: pushing aside the shower curtain to find two
			     kitties sitting patiently waiting for the show.
			     "Hey!  What are *you* looking at?!"

   When my cats do this, I call it their "I like to watch" act.  :-)

   When I climb into the shower, they get this peculiar expression on
   their faces, as if to say: "EEEUWWW!  Look, she's DELIBERATELY going
   to stand underneath the GIANT SQUIRT BOTTLE!!!  If she wants to get
   clean, why doesn't she just use her TONGUE like us NORMAL people?!?"

Our cat occassionally flips out when somebody is in the shower. She'll
holler bloody murder if you have the shower door closed and the water on.
The current theory is that she thinks the shower is attacking us somehow.
If you open the door and peek out so she can see you that seems to make
things right for a few minutes.

Such bizarre animals...

 
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From: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat Antlers
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:33:52 GMT
Reply-To: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

In article <1992Sep1.005810.16616@vela.acs.oakland.edu> jmwojtal@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Wojo) writes:
>cat would give me this "Why must I put up with this" look when I took her
>picture.  In fact, I think she was avoiding me when I got the camera. :-).


At my house you can't even say the word "camera" or the cat will quit
doing whatever cute thing it was doing and run for cover.  We have to
spell it out or say "get the you-know-what".
.
.

.
.
From: pjohnso@triton.unm.edu (Paddy Johnson CIRT)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Why Do Cats Sit on Paper?
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:07:44 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Sep4.215309.656@cs.tulane.edu> coimay@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu writes:
>Okay, here's my theory.  I call it the Special Theory.
>
>Cat walks into a room and wants to sit on the floor.  My, what a lot of
>floor to chose from, thinks Cat.  Where shall I sit?  Hmmm, there's a
>spot over there that's different, it has newspaper on it.  Now, if that
>spot's different, it must be special and since I'm the most Special
>Creature on the planet, it must be meant for me.
>
>Now, this theory can (easily) be proven be covering the entire floor of
>a (small) room with newspaper, leaving only one or two unpapered cat-
>sized spots.  Add one cat.  Observe where the cat decides to sit.
>
>No, I haven't done this and no, I'm not planning to, but it would be
>interesting.  :-)  :-)
>
>  Laura Carriere

This experiment has already been performed in my daughter's bedroom.  As
a matter of fact I think the latest trial is still in progress.  Her room
is completely covered in a current events project, school papers and parts
of soccer and basketball playbooks.  The cats, in general, avoid this room.
When she is in there, they will go in and sleep on her bed.  I think the
level of chaos found in a teenager's room is to high even for a cat.  I
know it is to high for a parent.
zoej
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