HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: anw1@cec1.wustl.edu (Aaron Wong)
Subject: Re: "Do you mind if she's a virgin or not?"
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:45:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.193707.6222@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pchang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Pei-Yuan Chang) writes:
>Interesting and exciting topic to you men, huh?  Well, just one of my male
>friends told me that he minds very much about whether his future wife is a
>virgin or not.  "How could you check it?  You are not a Gynecologist!"  I said.
>"Well, you know, she will bleed at the first time of lovemaking if she's a 
>virgin."
>
>:o!  Ha, my goodness!  Is the guy from 18 century?  According to Gynecologists'
>research, bleeding can not be used as an evidence of virgin.  Some women may
>not bleeding at their first time even though they are virgins.  Some physical
>incidents may damage the completeness of the "cherry".  My point is, is
>virgin or not really so important to you men?  My friend sweared to me that 99%
>men care it very much.  Really?  I thought people are getting rid of the
>stereotype.  Any comment?

The guy is from the 18th century, B.C.

NGOK
From: li@sicvax.enet.dec.com (Tong-Kang Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Taiwan News (late)
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:22:20 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <BxL4vp.My4@news.iastate.edu>, wwang@iastate.edu (Wen-Ping Wang) writes...
> 
>Forgive me to pick up this single point. But have you ever heard about
>the term 'blacklist'? George Chang and the others are just the victims
>of this blacklist policy which stranding overseas Taiwanese for so many years.
>First they were not allowed to go back, but when they did, they were
>arrested. Although, the number of blacklists has been reduced to
>single digit, it still does exist now. And the same old question many
>of us might ask, are they all really terrorist, or ...?

There is just one person on the blacklist now according to the last week's 
World Journal. The guideline for the Ministry of Interior to determine the 
blacklist is whether the person still insists using violence to promote 
his/her political belief but not based on what he/she said or did in the past.
I think it makes sense now.

As for the case of Mr. George Chang, he was accused the involvement of 
"terrorism" either assassination of ex-President Chiang Ching-Kuo or bomb 
incident of ex-governor of Taiwan Province, Shih Dong-Ming (I dont remember 
which one, anyone would like to confirm). In my opinion, I think he should 
be pardoned and we should put these unpleasant, hatred past to the rest.

Also four TI activists were arrested in May 1991 (the story was posted in 
this net last week). The law "Punishment of Sedition" was abolished after 
the arrest because the government was heavily criticized for this outdated 
law.

As one netter said, the problem for the campus spying is not spying itself
but these inappropriate laws.

The initiative of political reform was started 5 years ago, now looking back 
the changes Taiwan has been through we can foresee what Taiwan will be by 2000.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: bauwens@acs.ucalgary.ca (Luc Bauwens)
Subject: Re: KMT campus spying activities in the U.S.
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 15:39:52 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <9231412.15685@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby) writes:
>To the Canadian:
>
>If you're not Chinese, then, shut your mouth up!
>
>Didn't your mother teach you not to get involved in other people's
>domestic dispute?


Interesting...

What a nice way to state that you don't believe in free speech...
(And of being on record as not believing in free speech.)  So, you
think you own this newsgroup, eh?  :-)

As for domestic disputes, where are the Australian disputes, or the 
disputes about the US, or about Canada, or about my own 
country?  Don't I remember that you were quoting something about 
Clinton and the US in your original posting?  If you really
believe the silly argument that you have no right to say anything
about other countries, you might consider practicing what you 
preach too....   :-)   Come on, kid, grow up, will you.

Further, you insult 99% of the countries of the world, and then you
come back and claim that it doesn't concern them?  Funny logic...

Finally, for the record, I am not Canadian (at least, not yet...)

Luc B
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: clg1824@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chi Lin )
Subject: information of U. of Missouri, Columbia, Dept of Journalism
Summary: U. of Missouri, Journalism information needed
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: soc.culture.taiwan
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 23:11:15 GMT
Keywords: information about U. of Missouri, Columbia, Dept of Journalism needed

Dear Taiwanese fellows:
    Does anyone of you know something about U. of Missouri, Columbia?
    Or you are actually studying overthere? I am posting this for my friend
    who just got an admission to the Dept of Journalism. She is actually not
    so ambitious about being a journalist. Based on the interest in journalism
    per se, she would like to know about this department and this school. It
    would be better to get to know anyone studying there.
    Please, you are studying at U. of Missouri, Columbia or know anyone studying
    there. Could you send e-mail to :
    hufeiwen@student.msu.edu
    ASAP, O.K.?  thus, she can make some decisions correctly.
    We appreciate very much.
    Thanks!
    C.L.
From: hongzen@coombs.anu.edu.au (Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Taiwan News (late)
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:57:55 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2

<NTITT041@TWNMOE10.BITNET> writes:

>From I read in newspaper in Taiwan, I feel that the police was not
>strong enough because they did not put Mrs. Chen in jail. I don't
>believe any country will tolerate such violent behavior (to take down
>the sign of court by force).

>As far as Mr. Chuang's father got beaten in the crush and put into jail
>afterward, my view is that this is inevitable because he tried to stop
>the police who is performing his duty. See what will happen if you try

                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It is hard to image that beating person is one of police's duty. If Chuang is
correct, it means the act of police was over-action and over-defence. I never
believe a man with great power would never show his superiority until he is   
self-defendant. That is what social psychology taught me. 

A famous expierment is that a professor selected 20 students in UC (I forgot
whcih affiliation) and 10 played the roles of polices and other 10 played 
prisoners. He observed what would happen in such a closed social milieu.i.e.,
prison. All sutdents are volunteers and mental-healthy. Nothing happened in the
first 3 days. Afterwards the ploice students treated the prisoners more and 
more violent, teasing them, punished prisoners to do boring things, forbid them eating, even beat them. On the other hand, the prisoners students acted more andmore conform to the polices and degraded themselves as inferior to the polices. THE RESULT IS NOT AMAZING.
Power corrupts man.  ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS MAN ABSOLUTELY.
>to stop a policemen to do his duty in the U.S.? Although I sympathize
>Mr. Chuang's personal feeling about his father, I don't agree with him to
>call the matter injustice.

>Simon Song
>NTIT, Taipei
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: pchang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Pei-Yuan Chang)
Subject: "Do you mind if she's a virgin or not?"
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:37:07 GMT

Interesting and exciting topic to you men, huh?  Well, just one of my male
friends told me that he minds very much about whether his future wife is a
virgin or not.  "How could you check it?  You are not a Gynecologist!"  I said.
"Well, you know, she will bleed at the first time of lovemaking if she's a 
virgin."

:o!  Ha, my goodness!  Is the guy from 18 century?  According to Gynecologists'
research, bleeding can not be used as an evidence of virgin.  Some women may
not bleeding at their first time even though they are virgins.  Some physical
incidents may damage the completeness of the "cherry".  My point is, is
virgin or not really so important to you men?  My friend sweared to me that 99%
men care it very much.  Really?  I thought people are getting rid of the
stereotype.  Any comment?

My advice, never ever ask and check ur wife or girlfriend for whether she's
virgin or not.  Why asking for troubles for yourself?  Life is short, just 
enjoy...

--Christine, the feminist.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong
From: cwt2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Charles W Tang)
Subject: Buddhist Literature Distribution
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:49:46 GMT

The Saddharma Cakra Buddhist Association (Miao4-fa3-lun2 Fo2-xue2-hui4)
in Flushing, NY is looking for groups around the US that are interested
in distributing free Buddhist literature (in Chinese and English) in
their vicinity.  Most of these books are printed in and shipped from
Taiwan.

For interested organizations, please contact me at <cwt2.cunixa.cc.
columbia.edu>.

We need to know the following about your organization and your target
readers:

1) what language(s) do your readers speak?  Chinese / English / Both
2) how many books (of each title) do you need?
3) do you belong to a related organization, or are you thinking about
   doing this privately?  If you belong to a related organization, what 
   is the full name and address of your organization?
4) your name, address, telephone number, and e-mail address.

Since we don't know how many interested parties will be contacting
us, and since the book supply is limited, we can't promise that
every group will get what it asks for.  But since this will be an
ON-GOING project, we'll keep the list of all interested groups
for future distributions.

Thank you!

-Charles
*** Om Ma-Ni Pad-Me Hung *** | "Hey, Charles, have you been 'waiting' all
============================ |  your life?" -- Thao D. "the creature" Vo
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: u235@rex.chb.uokhsc.edu (Yung-Jin Lee)
Subject: Re: "Do you mind if she's a virgin or not?"
Originator: usenet@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 05:34:36 GMT
Organization: University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center, OKC

In article <1992Nov9.193707.6222@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pchang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Pei-Yuan Chang) writes:
>Interesting and exciting topic to you men, huh?  Well, just one of my male
>friends told me that he minds very much about whether his future wife is a
>virgin or not.  "How could you check it?  You are not a Gynecologist!"  I said.

	Christine!  Even a gyn can't tell if a female is a virgin
	or not.  Believe it or not?

>"Well, you know, she will bleed at the first time of lovemaking if she's a 
>virgin."
>
>:o!  Ha, my goodness!  Is the guy from 18 century?  According to Gynecologists'
>research, bleeding can not be used as an evidence of virgin.  Some women may
>not bleeding at their first time even though they are virgins.  Some physical
>incidents may damage the completeness of the "cherry".  My point is, is
>virgin or not really so important to you men?  My friend sweared to me that 99%
>men care it very much.  Really?  I thought people are getting rid of the
>stereotype.  Any comment?
>
	Should you define the terminology-'virgin' before we can
	comment this?

>My advice, never ever ask and check ur wife or girlfriend for whether she's
>virgin or not.  Why asking for troubles for yourself?  Life is short, just 
>enjoy...
>
	If I were female, I wound't say anything about what happened
	before.  I don't think the concept will be changed dramatically
	about this.  Same thing to the man.  After all, it is kind of
	taking a risk and the most important thing is it has been over.
	Life goes on...

>--Christine, the feminist.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni)
Subject:  Chinese system for Mac?
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 05:44:45 GMT


This should have been an FAQ, I guess. But I really need to know whether
there exists software like ETien for Macintosh. The knowledgeable people,
please help me. Thank you very much!


Wen-Chun Ni, wcn@cs.brown.edu         (401) 863-7669
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From: blee@digi.lonestar.org (Benjamin W. Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Asian votes on the presidential election
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:44:49 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications, Plano Tx.

In article <1992Nov4.233228.12063@zip.eecs.umich.edu> cyc@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Yi-Chieh Chang) writes:
>I found this may interest many Asian American in the presidential
>votes. From 11/4 USA today, it shows that Clinton lead Bush in
>almost every group of people, except Asian and people making
>$75,000 or more, not including party group.
>The statistics are as follow:
>53% Asian vote for Bush while 36% vote for Clinton.
>47% of the people making $75,000 or more vote for Bush and 
>39% vote for Clinton.
>
>My question --> is any correlation between Asian and the people who
>making $75,000 or more ?
>
>Yi-Chieh 


I think this is an excellent observation which tells me the basic difference
between Easterners and Westerners. I've talked to much of my friend who can
vote this year. They are simply afraid of the word SPENDING. As the people
much of whom went through hard times, we know the value of SAVING. We tends
to sacrifice personal enjoyment over financial safety. We don't believe in
debt. Hence forth we don't believe in spending out of the recession and the
debt theory.

Clinton's ecomoic policy suggests more tax and debt. I personally don't
believe Americans can refrain themself when they have the money in their
pocket. They will spend the way THEY LIKE, which is going to be a waste.
The correlation that you described is purly coincidental.

Please let us know how do you think!
From: cf379@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (J. Alan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Interested in Homosexuality in Taiwan
Date: 10 Nov 1992 06:09:17 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I'm collecting information for research on this subject
and would appreciate the cooperation of all readers of
this group.  If you have any views, comments, or experiences
you can relate, please share them with me.

I promise not to mention your name or anything you say anywhere.
This is a 100% guarantee.

Thank you!
J. Alan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: ptyshih@watnow.uwaterloo.ca (Paul T.Y. Shih(Taku))
Subject: Re: KMT campus spying activities in the U.S.
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:09:20 GMT

In article <4341@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU> fapa@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Feng-yang Kuo) writes:
>Tim,
>There are many KMT brain washed chinese around. They really don't belong to
>the island of Taiwan. Progress doesn't come free. I admire your uncle for 
>what he have done for the beloved island. Many taiwanese people will remember
    					   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>this even hundred years after
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^.

Hahahahahahah, this one should be posted on rec.humor.funny
From: wwang@iastate.edu (Wen-Ping Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Taiwan News (late)
Date: 12 Nov 92 04:09:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxL4vp.My4
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

In article <9231621.7252@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby) writes:
>I saw the article in Asia Week (Chinese version) about the incident that
>we are describing here.  One thing I am shocked is that the leader of the
>TI movement has not lived in Taiwan for years.  He's lived in various
>western countries for many many years, especially the USA.
>.........
> ........
>2)  if he loves Taiwan, why has he been overseas all these time?  I don't
>care the fact that he is Taiwanese, but he has moved out of the place
>by his own choice.
>.........

Forgive me to pick up this single point. But have you ever heard about
the term 'blacklist'? George Chang and the others are just the victims
of this blacklist policy which stranding overseas Taiwanese for so many years.
First they were not allowed to go back, but when they did, they were
arrested. Although, the number of blacklists has been reduced to
single digit, it still does exist now. And the same old question many
of us might ask, are they all really terrorist, or ...?

W.P. Wang
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: clee@nyx.cs.du.edu (Becky's Daddy)
Subject: Re: "Do you mind if she's a virgin or not?"
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 06:34:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.162427.22285@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pchang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Pei-Yuan Chang) writes:
>Besides, to the one relating lovemaking and AIDS: dear, don't you wear a
>condom?  Please don't be so stupid, ok?

Don't be too smart too!  Condoms do not 100% keep one from getting AIDS...

cyl


Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: "Do you mind if she's a virgin or not?"
Reply-To: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:39:09 GMT

Who gives a shit!  Well, obviously a lot of people who I disagree with,
maybe there is enough of you to start a new newsgroup called
sex.virgins, or sex.starved or just.hardup or not.getting.any or strong.right.wrists.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby)
Subject: Re: Taiwan News (late)
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:08:40 GMT

tchuang@cello.ecn.purdue.edu (Tim D. Chuang) writes:

>kao@cae.wisc.edu (Chengheng Kao) writes:

>>Are you a ROC citizen? Are you uncle a ROC citizen? If they are not, I would 
>>want you and your uncle go F**k youself and leave my beloved country.

>>Do you and your uncle ever pay any tax to support Taiwanese people?
>>If not, I want you shut up and go scr*w youself.

>I am glad that some people on this net have enough class to throw profanities
>on the net.  My uncle is a resident of Tainan, Taiwan and he has suffered
>from the ruthless violence of the Kuomingtang.  As long as the Kuomingtang
>continues to violate the basic human rights of the Taiwanese people, I will
>NEVER "shut up."

>My uncle is still in prison and our family has not yet been informed of the
>trial date of his hearing.  He is being held for a ludicrous charge of
>"obstructing justice."  He was beaten and imprisoned even though he was 
>acting to stop an act of police brutality.

>If you believe police brutality should be allowed in a country, than I am
>sorry that your beliefs and values could be so cruel.  Maybe you should apply
>for a job in the PRC.  They love to hire people who think as you do.

>People who think as you do, allow the Kuomingtang to continue imprisoning and
>torturing people.

>Tim Chuang

It's interesting that Tim Chuang (the American) didn't actually answer
the question.  :-)

All he said was "My uncle is a resident of Tainan, Taiwan".  My goodness,
lots of "guei lo" are residents of Taiwan, too.  :)

-- 
1)-----------------------Rev 6:8 "... They were given authority over a quarter
of the Earth, to kill by the sword, by famine, by plague, and wild beasts."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: "Do you mind if she's a virgin or not?"
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:55:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.162427.22285@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pchang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Pei-Yuan Chang) writes:
>Ya!  You are absolutely right!
>
>Besides, to the one relating lovemaking and AIDS: dear, don't you wear a
>condom?  Please don't be so stupid, ok?

Christine, it is pretty hard to have children (which many couples do want,
ya know) when the man is wearing a condom...
From: li@subway.enet.dec.com (Tong-Kang Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: KMT campus spying activities in the U.S.
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:36:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: engage.1992Nov11.014502.11937
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <4341@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU>, fapa@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Feng-yang Kuo) writes...
>
>Tim,
>There are many KMT brain washed chinese around. They really don't belong to
>the island of Taiwan. Progress doesn't come free. I admire your uncle for 
>what he have done for the beloved island. Many taiwanese people will remember
>this even hundred years after.

Those disagreed with Mr. Chuang's posting about whether the rally in Taichung 
was a "peaceful one" as Tim Claimed. No one said they should not demonstrate
but argue how they did. You are not able to debate intead all you can do is 
to label people. Why dont you tell us why those demonstrators did right thing 
and did "peacefully"? Or it just tell how "backward" you are.
From: ifan@festival.ed.ac.uk (Shen I-Fan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Do you mind he is a virgin or not?
Summary: Difficult to tell
Keywords: Like a virgin
Date: 13 Nov 92 10:58:25 GMT


Until you have a scientific way to examine.

I-Fan
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA