HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: solicitation
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:15:56 GMT
Reply-To: cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com ()
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Hardware Engineering

Do we have anyone on the net who has a good Chinese Chess
program for Sun Workstation?

And, it would be great if someone has some real funky Chinese
audio file for SparcStation, ie. Charlie (something).

Thanks in advance.

DC
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: gean@donner.uucp (25158-gean)
Subject: Re: HK "roots"??  << was: "I love Hong Kong, too!  But why? >>
Reply-To: gean@donner.UUCP ()
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 02:47:59 GMT

(Yik-Yin Edwin Kwan) writes:
>Boy: (perplexed) "Are you Chinese?"
>Me:  "Yes!  I told you."
>Boy: "Ha Ha Stupid!  How can you be both Chinese and Hong Kong ?!"

Edwin Kwan's article reminds me of a question that I received from a
HKer in Hong Kong:

"If you are American, why do you look Chinese?"
========================================================================

                           Ted Gean
                    gean@donner.bellcore.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: hyx1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Harry Y Xu)
Subject: Family Value  (was Re: I N S T A N T   N O O D L E S
Reply-To: hyx1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Harry Y Xu)
Organization: Columbia University, New York City
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 07:55:07 GMT

In article <1w4TiB5w164w@student.business.uwo.ca> j3cheng@student.business.uwo.ca (Jonathan Cheng) writes:
> [some stuff del]  Mom, Dad, and both kids can cuddle around the 
>mahjong table in front of the tv to enjoy some real family moments.  This 
>is the institution we are talking about.

Asian (East-Asian) family value family solidarity defined family, social,
and political structure in East-Asia.   (Confucian)

> mom/wife is still busy preparing the night's fare but you are 
> so-hungry-from-work-you-can eat-a-cow, and you cook yourself.

(refering to noodle preparation)
Another point:  Woman takes care of in-hourse work; man do "outside-work".
 (Confucian)

Even by just looking at story of preparing instant noodle, the distinct East
Asian culture is prevalent.  No wonder we are so different from people of
other cultures.  No wonder there's Chinatown everywhere while not every culture
has a "-town".

Just some thought, not trying to make any point.

-Harry/kb2lha
From: na1cs456@troi.cc.rochester.edu (CS456 Student)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Help: Need (800) No. of Hong Kong Tourist Association in USA
Keywords: HKTA,toll free number
Date: 15 Apr 92 06:08:09 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)


In article <14APR199214133490@zeus.tamu.edu> l0k1416@zeus.tamu.edu (KWOK, LIH) writes:
>
>	Does anyone know the Toll-Free number of Hong Kong Tourists Association
>        in the States ? Thanks in advance !

	Directory assistance is always area coed plus 555 - 1212.
	In your case, call 1-800-555-1212, ask for HKTA.
A
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: stephen@leland.Stanford.EDU (chee ho stephen lee)
Subject: Re: The magazine of Tin Ha
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: soc.culture.hongkong
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 00:13:15 GMT

In article <ALAW.92Apr13134132@leland.Stanford.EDU> alaw@portia.Stanford.EDU (Alvin Law) writes:
>
>Any thought on how the "Wind-Cloud" story would end?  I think it will build
>up to a fight between Lip Fung and Po King Wan, with Wan killing Fung with
>his "Dzut Sai Ho Geen" (which was predicted in the drawing and the
>conversation between Fung and Wan before Paul Kwun appeared).
>

I think in "cloud & wind" fiction #5, the fortune teller
(lai poo shat) told Lip Fung that his life is to sacrifice, and
he will have to make the biggest sacrifice for the people. Then
Duin Long (Wave) said he was BS-ing and Fung will not die. 

I think most readers want Fung to live happily forever with Dream
but this doesn't seem to be what Ma was planning. 

Here is my guess for the ending:
Both wind and cloud defeated the Japanese invaders, but wind
is mad and becomes the evil guy and cloud disappears. The next
story will feature the next generation, about probably 20 years, with
the focus on the little boy that was born when sword saint was killed,
and all other characters will be there too, probably with a beard.
Just some random thought and have fun :)



Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: yung@r-node.gts.org (Amos Yung)
Subject: Re: Simpsons
Organization: R-Node Public Access UNIX System (416-636-2026) - 24 hrs
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1992 22:09:10 GMT

In article <9204031913.AA16058@.euclid.uoregon.edu.> chao@EUCLID.UOREGON.EDU (Kung M. Chao) writes:
>Dose people in HK(I mean physically) know who they are?
>
>
>
>

Yes. Simpson is on Asian TV (the station). I saw Simpsons' merchandise
in HK everywhere a month ago. 

>
>
>
>
>
>                          (####)
>                        (#######)
>                      (#########)
>                     (#########)      The Simpsons Plan!
>                    (#########)
>            B      (#########)
>   __&__    A     (#########)
>  /     \   R    (#########)   |\/\/\/|     /\ /\  /\               /\
> |       |  T   (#########)    |      |     | V  \/  \---.    .----/  \----.
> |  (o)(o)  '    (o)(o)(##)    |      |      \_        /       \          /
> C   .---_)    ,_C     (##)    | (o)(o)       (o)(o)  <__.   .--\ (o)(o) /__.
>  | |.___|    /____,   (##)    C      _)     _C         /     \     ()     /
>  |  \__/       \     (#)       | ,___|     /____,   )  \      >   (C_)   <
>  /_____\        |    |         |   /         \     /----'    /___\____/___\
> /_____/ \       OOOOOO        /____\          ooooo             /|    |\
>/         \     /      \      /      \        /     \           /        \


-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Amos Yung          | Macintosh Jr.: The power to crush the other kid.
yung@r-node.gts.org| 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: john@jho.com (John Ho)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Armani glasses, LV wallet, Dupont lighters...
Summary: LV
Keywords: LV
Date: 15 Apr 92 05:17:28 GMT
Organization: Software Programming, Inc., Dallas, Texas, USA


mpoon@rose.uwaterloo.ca (Michael Poon) writes:

>I haven't go back to H.K for six years and just wonder what are the 
>"standard clothing" (brand names) that HK people are wearing now.  

>Category	"standard"
>--------	----------
>eye-glasses	 Still Amari?
>pen, pencil  	?          
>Jacket		?
>shirts		?
>T-shirts	NORIPI!!!
>Pants		?
-
-
>tie		?
>belt		?
>wallet		?
>Any Idea?

Name brand shirts and name brand shoes, a Dupont pen and 
Timberland boots.  In HK, if you don't have the "right stuff", 
you are nobody and you have to have it because HK is a 
materialistic world, if you don't have it, your friends will, 
talk about major peer pressure.  More and more, however; I found 
name brands are nothing more than the result of some marketing 
scam,  they are the result of heavy marketing campaign.  On the 
other hand, name brands clothing do not necessarily give me the 
look (many times it doesn't - I think it is true ONLY for me :))
and no-frill ties do not necessarily melt in the air. Is it 
worth that the extra 300% for that pair of name brand running shoes?  
Can it make me jump higher and run faster? I don't know because 
I only wear it when I go shopping in Yohan. :)

-- 
John Ho from Dallas, Texas USA (john@jho.com)             - No news is bad news.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: cltong@ecst.csuchico.edu (Chin Leung Tong)
Subject: Re: Should Hong Kong be Independent
Keywords: Wandted lesson of Chinese History
Organization: California State University, Chico
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 08:16:20 GMT


In refer to an article that still think that California should be independent becaus of rich from Amos Yung.

I would like to know when Cal became one of the states of US, how rich she is,
can it compare to the situation of Hong Kong.
i.e. Hong Kong is a lot wealthier than Mainland China.  If our destiny is going back to a government that will track down a development of country with a lot  
of potential by over 40 yrs, I would like to be a mean and selfish idiot defensepeople with similar dream that Hong Kong should be independent.  Whereas you  make me put a serious doubt on that whcih kind of visa are you holding.
You are not required to answer this question but no answer is an answer.  If you can tell all of us that how long have you been living in Hong Kong that will be my greatest pleasure.  I know that you are not a agent from mainland China or
you won't post another news in this newsgroup, may or may not enough to 
identify your real identity. 

I also understand that it is not that feasible for my dream but I still would 
appreciate someone aguring with the whole picture rather than one or two 
sentences.

Moreover I need some lesson on Chinese History, I would like to know when
Hong Kong was leased to British how wealthy she was and how about now.  
If say Hong Kong was from US how will the people react for going back to 
their mother land.  That may not be a very pleasant move but still is 
acceptable for me. 

Look forward to hearing from you 
still with a lot of respect

Chin.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: sleo@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Suwandi Leo)
Subject: Chinese Laser Discs for sale
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 05:52:54 EDT

The following laser discs,  all in Cantonese, are for sale:

Chinese Ghost Story
Chinese Ghost Story II

A Better Tomorrow II

Millionaire's Express (YuenBiu,Samo Hung, Eric Tsang...)

Dragons in Jail (Andy LauTakWah, Ho Kakeng)

Price: $40 each.

Contact: sleo@mailbox.syr.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Subject: Re: Leon Lai's Concert in Reno, Nevada
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 01:15:58 GMT

This article was probably generated by a buggy news reader.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: pang@db.toronto.edu (Raymond S Pang)
Subject: Re: I N S T A N T N O O D L E S
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:40:45 GMT

>   My favourite cooking method is as follows.  Boil the water in a electric
>   rice cooker, dump the noodle AND the MSG (without the bag, of course) into
>   the water, and cook for 2 minutes.  Then stir, switch off the rice cooker 
> and
>   leave it there for 10 minutes.  By the time you return the noodle has
>   absorbed all the MSG and becomes so delicious that you can never forget...

Hmm... Isn't I.N. supposed to fast and convenient?
If you don't mind to drain the noodle and don't use the MSG provided , why 
don't you buy fresh noodle instead and have a healthy meal :).

-Ray
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: onlit@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Outward Bounder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Saucer Spirit
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:37:18 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

When I was a Form 3 student, this kind of stuff was real hot.  We even
played during class time.  At that time though most of us were interested
in "Bud Sin" or Pen Spirit.  It was so wild that we can even invoke the 
spirit when we were using a piece of chalk on the blackboard.

Of course some of us played Coin Spirit and/or Saucer Spirit.  Nonetheless,
we did two experiment to try to prove whether there was a spirit or not.
First, we applied the same rules and principles and we used a tiny personal
phone book instead of a saucer/pen/coin.  Without intentionally moving our 
fingers, we successfully moved the phone book to a direction where we all
wanted it to.  Then we used a pen and got the same result.  Eventually,
it was no longer a myth but a game that we used to compete against each
others' mind.  What we concluded was that there was no spirit but my own
mind.  

The way we compete against each other was to move a certain object with
our "mind power" (eg a ball pen) to two different directions.  The more 
concentrated the one was the more likely he would won. 

There was one myterious phenomena though.  We could invoke a spirit/play
that game very easily in one classroom, but never in the one next door!


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|      Lee, On-Lit Andrew          |               - Motto of Outward Bound 
|                                  | 
|  email: onlit@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu |  "Your disability is your opportunity"
|  University of Texas at Austin   |               - Kurt Hahn,  
+----------------------------------+                 Founder of Outward Bound
From: leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: HK singers
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:57:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: dsg.1992Apr13.205716.8298
Organization: Tandem Computers

In <1992Apr13.190258.5146@bradford.ac.uk>, K.K.Soo@bradford.ac.uk (KK SOO) writes:
|> leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung) writes:
|> 
|> >You apparently left out 2 superstars and 1 talented person. (Hint: they
|> >are the same generation as Sam Hui and Ah Lam.)
|> 
|> I guess they're Kwan Jing kit, Yip Chun Tong and Big AL.

Noop. Kwan can be superstar, the other two apparently are not.
Also, these three are in singing skill category, not in the
composing/arranging category.

|> Fred
|> -- 
|> k.k.soo@bradford.ac.uk
|> Computer Science, University of Bradford, UK.


Steven
------
... This all sounds complicated, but it mostly does exactly
what you expect. It's just hard for us to explain what you
expect ...
				  - From "Programming Perl"
From: yip-ken@CS.YALE.EDU (ken yip)
Subject: Two questions on bookstores carrying textbooks or reference books
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 17:20:50 GMT


1. If you have time to go to only one bookstore (since I plan only a 
   short visit), which would you go for more advanced books on

	computer science
	mathematics and physics
	mechanical engineering
   
   I suppose the largest one is the best bet.

2. Is it true that the international student edition books are made
   of low-quality paper that will turn yellowish in a year or two?

	
	
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: lhclin@watcgl.waterloo.edu (Louis Lin)
Subject: Re: Breathing Sound of Yo-Yo Ma (was Re: HK singers)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 12:52:25 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.010504.17383@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> fcc1@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Fat-Chi Cheng) writes:
>
>Yo-Yo Ma also has a breathing noise "background" when he plays
>his cello.  Any commands?
>
>F.C. Cheng

I didn't notice.  Perhaps I was concentrating on the instruments.
I think most people tend to follow the main melody of a piece of music.
In the case of Ma, it is his cello (most of the time), so even if
he has a noiser breathing than Sally Yep, we probably will not
notice it.

It would be a different story if Ma is pop singer :).



-- 
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| lhclin@watcgl.waterloo.edu, lhclin@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca |    / /      / /
| Louis Hiu Chuen Lin,        Computer Graphics Lab      |   / /__    / /__
| Dept of Computer Science,   U of Waterloo, Canada      |  /____/ o /____/ o
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: sze@enel.ucalgary.ca (Peter Sze)
Subject: Re: RESULTS: Scenic GIF Pictures Naming Convention vote
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 04:30:14 GMT
Organization: ECE Department, U. of Calgary, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Keywords: GIF
Followup-To: ang@theory.lcs.mit.edu

In article <1992Apr1.174128.16962@unixg.ubc.ca> twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong) writes:
>Well, here we are. A new month and a new naming convention for our Scenic
>GIF files of HK for our new HKscenic archive. The YES votes beat the NO
>votes by the count of 7 to 3. I'll enclose the voting summary sheet at 
>the end of this posting. 

 .... deleted

>development of HK from 1895 to today. It consists of 8 GIFs files:
>
>/usr/home11/jho/gif/hk1895a.gif
>/usr/home11/jho/gif/hk1940a.gif
>/usr/home11/jho/gif/hk1955a.gif
>/usr/home11/jho/gif/hk1972a.gif
>/usr/home11/jho/gif/hk1984a.gif
>/usr/home11/jho/gif/hk1989a.gif
>/usr/home11/jho/gif/hk1991a.gif
>/usr/home11/jho/gif/hk1991b.gif
>
	.... deleted
>
>	HK Island, 	use hkYYYY[a-z].gif
>	Kowloon,   	use kwYYYY[a-z].gif
>	New Territory,  use ntYYYY[a-z].gif


   It is good to be systematic, I like that.

 
>
>The Votes:
>==========
>
>YES
>===
>From:    <jho@ssd.dl.nec.com>
>From:    <twong@civil.ubc.ca>
>From:    <ycjlau@descartes.uwaterloo.ca>
>From:    <fredki@silicon.key.amdahl.com>
>From:    <wail@cae.wisc.edu>
>From:    Shing-Yuen Pang <pang@rice.edu>
>From:    <akwy@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU>
>
>NO
>==
>From:     Siu-ki Wong <wongs@ruby.ils.unc.edu>
>From:     Alvin W. Law <alaw@us.oracle.com>
>From:    <aywong@ohm.Berkeley.EDU>

	However, the result from the vote was astonishing!!
Only TEN people voted from the entire net?!  May be this is the
majority who made contributions to the HongKong gif collection.
But I think it is hardly representing the population of the netters
getting gif files.

	This naming convention would make the bookkeepping
easier and enhance the search process.(Hopefully)   However, 
in my personal opinion, I think this naming convention
concerns not only contributors but also, and especially to the
netters who are enjoying the gif files.  
	
To a newly (relatively) established body, I consider 
it is vital to collect opinions from a larger population.  
This is only seemed to be FAIR and 
would represent the majority netters' opinion.

	If a case like this happened, it would only indicate
the netters are not concern about or not aware of the
importance.  Thus, it is not fair to ask all the netters to 
obide by this naming convention.  May be this naming 
convention should stand as adjourned until a reasonable 
number in the quorum has reached.

	Despite the vote pool represents, I appreciate the
efforts from the people out on the net, Thomas, John ... etc.
	
	It would be educational to hear some opinions from the
postmasters of gif sites. Looking forward to that!

	
Peter Sze
email:
	sze@enel.ucalgary.ca
	sze@vlsi.enel.ucalgary.ca
From: egeo17@castle.ed.ac.uk (M L Broadgate)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: I N S T A N T N O O D L E S
Date: 9 Apr 92 12:35:00 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <ku57c6INN3ks@girtab.usc.edu> plaw@girtab.usc.edu (Patrick Law) writes:

>   However, my close friend's mother got a stomach cancer about
>two years ago. Though the cause is not directly related to instant
>noodle, I started thinking about eating healthy.

the laws in HK don't seem to be very strict on these kinds of things or
perhaps they're not so keenly implemented - however I've seen instant
noodles on sale with MSG-FREE written on them ( in Hong Kong)
 - they taste pretty good too - but then I'm one of the IN lovers 
who eats them RAW (no sauce or powder added)!!!

Marianne
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mkwan@esk (Michael  Kwan)
Subject: Cow ---- Part 1
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 17:25:39 GMT


              /\
       /\____/  \_
      /           \
     |  Australia  |
      \   ____    /
       \_/    \__/
               __
               \/ <---- Tasmania

Dear Friends,


            --==>>  THE COMPLETE GUIDE TO COWS  <<==--
                            Part One
                 as you've NEVER seen them before!

                  ________________________
         (__)    /                        \      
         (oo)   (  Hello, Everybody !      )
  /-------\/  --'\________________________/    
 / |     ||
*  ||----||             
   ^^    ^^             
     Cow             

-  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -

         (__)             (__)             (__)             (__)
         (oo)             (oo)             (oo)             (oo)
  /-------\/       /-------\/       /-------\/       /-------\/
 / |     ||       / |     ||       / |     ||       / |     ||
*  ||----||      *  ||W---||      *  ||w---||      *  ||V---||
   ^^    ^^         ^^    ^^         ^^    ^^         ^^    ^^
     Cow           Cow laden        Same cow       Nancy Reagan-type
                   with milk     after milking     cow with milk

         (___)             (___)    *        (___)             (___)
         (o o)             (o o)     \       (o o)             (o o)
  /-------\ /       /-------\ /       \-------\ /       /-------\ /
 / |     ||O       / |     ||O         |     ||O       / | ~#>-+|O
*  ||,---||       *  ||@\--||          ||,---||       *  ||,----|
   ^^    ^^          ^^    ^^          ^^    ^^          ^^     ^
     Bull       Same bull after    Rotc bull after    Red-blooded American Bull
                seeing above cow   seeing other bull   shooting the Rotc bull



         (__)             (__)             (__)             (__)
         (oo)             (oo)             (oo)             (oo)
  /-------\/-*     /-------\/       /-------\/   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 / |     || \     )*)(\/* /  *     / |     ||
*  ||----||  *   \ |||/)|/()(    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
\/|(/)(/\/(,,/   \)|(/\/|)(/\
  Cow munching   Grass munching   Cow in water       Cow in trouble
    on grass         on cow


			(World Distribution Version)

					Michael KWAN
					University of Tasmania, Launceston.
					<mkwan@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au>
					<mkwan@pieman.compserv.utas.edu.au>


***************************************************************************
********                        Michael KWAN                       ********
******** (P.O.BOX 447, Mowbray Heights, 7248, Tasmania, Australia) ********
***************************************************************************
From: john@jho.com (John Ho)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Lai Ming (he is okay)
Date: 15 Apr 92 05:50:08 GMT
Organization: Software Programming, Inc., Dallas, Texas, USA

hpang@caen.engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang) writes:

>The fact is:  We the people are engaging a pointless debate on Lai Ming's
>singing skill, etc.  

I don't think we have engaged ourselves in a pointless, "mo lee tau"
discussion, something constructive can come out.  Look at it this way,
we almost have an unanimous vote that Lai Ming is a lousy singer. 
His singing sucks, this is a fact, but he is a well packaged merchandise.  
As we are more awared of his poor performance, we are likely to be
more cautious before buying more CD and cassettes from him.
When this happens, he will go downhill and disappear in no-time, 
we are all here doing HK music industry a big favour!

Remember that WE the audience are the final judge for the 
success of a singer.  No matter how good the marketing people can do,
WE are the driving force behind the music industry.  I think it is time
for us to regain the control to determine who we want to listen
to and it is time to stop listening to what the marketing people 
are paid to tell us to do.
-- 
John Ho from Dallas, Texas USA (john@jho.com)             - No news is bad news.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong