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From: neilb@physics.su.OZ.AU (RiemannZeta(s))
Subject: Re: Cultural Exchange (was Re: Schooling)
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:57:27 GMT

>From: dbriggs@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Daniel Briggs)

>"Now there is another concept called the lateral, which could be confused
>with a pass.  Basically, you can always toss the ball *backwards*, and you
>may do this as many times as you like in one play.  It's normally used by a
>runner, who is about to be tackled.  He tosses the ball to his mate and the
>other fellow hopefully eludes the tackle.  It's a bit risky, since a
>botched lateral may very well be (is?) considered a fumble, as compared
>with an incomplete pass which is called dead.  Since laterals are always
>short range affairs, the ball is usually tossed underhand, rather than the
>pretty spiral throws the quarterback uses.  Now again, I don't *know* that
>a runner couldn't throw the ball clear across the field (and backwards)
>with a spiral throw, but I've never heard of it happening.  Since it'll be
>a fumble if he misses, it would have to be a move of desperation.

Now in order to really stir up some trouble, if that is the case then I
claim that any first grade rugby union or rugby league side could
give any gridiron team a run for there money, and our state sides could
probably beat all comers. From what I have seen of gridiron (which is
not much) Australian players could run you off your feet, assuming that we could
pass the ball backwards as often as we liked.

bye
 
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From: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt (Jason))
Subject: Re: Colorful Phrases
Organization: University of Oregon, Architecture
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 20:06:59 GMT

<Jason pipes up again>

I used a good one without thinking about it today.

"It's like using an elephant gun to hunt ground squirrels."
(Or Howlitzer / mice, tank / turtles, etc.)
(for a severe over-reaction)

Jason
Organization: Sophomore, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Date: Fri,  2 Oct 1992 12:51:41 -0400 
From: Mark Beirne Lively <ml5a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: A Toast.

>Now, the problems with my newish contacts are that I still have difficulty
>removing them in the evenings and on last Saturday I spent 3/4 of an hour
>trying to put in the left lens.
	Oh i know the problems with contacts.  trust me the best is yet come. 
Occasionally you'll get something underneath and it hurts and you want
to get the contact out but you can't force you're eye open.  Also if you
forget to take them out one night and they aren't extended wear  You
will find it very uncomfortable.  But don't worry about how long it
takes to get them out eventually you'll get to the point where you can
take them in a car going down a bumpy road.  Btu in my opinion they are
still much better than glasses they almost never falll of.  get foggy,or
make you look incredibly stupid.(there are no glasses in the world to
fit my face.  Its just to large.  the glasses weither look huge or like
a silly mockery.  I can't win.

Friend of the one who is.
Bear aka the Lord High Rulebender aka (ML5A@ANDREW.CMU.EDU)
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From: keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen)
Subject: Re: BAH! HUMBUG!
Organization: Murdoch University
Date:  2 Oct 92 03:56:05 GMT

The problem with Christmas in the southern hemisphere is that we often have
relies in the northern hemisphere, to whom we send presents/Christmas parcels
... being in the southern hemisphere, and they in the northern, there is an
ever so slight postal delay (usually about three months by surface mail).
Maybe that's the excuse for the early Christmas stuff here ....... NAAAHHHHH!

Splash!

--
***************************** Michael van Keulen *************************** 
* Snail: School of BES - Biology         e-mail: keulen@murdoch.edu.au     *
*        Murdoch University              phone:  ++ 61 (09) 360-2843 (work)*
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*************************** "To Love is to _LIVE_!" ************************
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Colorful Phrases
Date: 4 Oct 1992 05:30:51 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <oenbE5O00WAJEkpcx1@andrew.cmu.edu>, John Charles Fiala <jf2z+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
=John walks over to the list, where she* appends:
=
="Make like a hockey player and get the puck out of here."
="Make like a bread truck and haul buns."

or "Make like a shepherd and get the flock out of here."
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From: keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen)
Subject: Re: toast
Organization: Murdoch University
Date:  5 Oct 92 03:38:14 GMT

Another word of advice about your contacts ... don't do arc-welding with your
contacts in ... I heard a horror tale of someone's contacts being "welded" to
their eyes by a stray flash-thingy.

Splash!

--
***************************** Michael van Keulen *************************** 
* Snail: School of BES - Biology         e-mail: keulen@murdoch.edu.au     *
*        Murdoch University              phone:  ++ 61 (09) 360-2843 (work)*
*        Murdoch WA 6150  AUSTRALIA              ++ 61 (09) 417-3902 (home)*
*************************** "To Love is to _LIVE_!" ************************
From: Adrian.Waterworth@newcastle.ac.uk (Adrian Waterworth)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: ANOTHER MIA LIST
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:54:21 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

In a quiet corner of Callahan's Place...

["Hey! Just how many corners does this place have?!"]
["Shut up!" - Narrator]

As I was saying, in a quiet corner of Callahan's Place, a figure clad
in a Black Sabbath T-shirt and a pair of slighty faded Rodeo-cut
Wranglers is covered in several months' worth of cobwebs and dust.

He's looking a bit thin at the moment because his Real-Life(tm) alter
ego has put on a fair amount of weight, which in the interests of mass
conservation have come off the unfortunate Callahanian cobweb
collector.

If you look closely, there's a dusty old sign on that chap's chest, you
know...

["No, I can't say I do know..."]
["Well...you do now, don't you dummy?" - Narrator]

It says...

	ABEWOT - Absent By Enforced Writing Of Thesis
		Back sometime in October.

["Oh, I see."]
["Amen!" - Narrator]

		See you soon and best wishes to all,

				Martyr.

				(Carrying too much weight,
				 Getting too little sleep
				 And writing like Hell!)

		\----------------------------------------/
		 |  Adrian.Waterworth@newcastle.ac.uk	|
		/ ---------------------------------------\
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From: keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen)
Subject: Re: Thanks (was Group Hug)
Organization: Murdoch University
Date:  2 Oct 92 04:03:31 GMT

"Whew!"  Splash sighs with relief ... "I thought we might have smothered you in
the middle there somewhere, not having seen a post for some time!  Glad to see
you're feeling a bit better."  Splash then turns back and disappears into the
group hug again:  "Mmmmm - feels great!"

Splash!

--
***************************** Michael van Keulen *************************** 
* Snail: School of BES - Biology         e-mail: keulen@murdoch.edu.au     *
*        Murdoch University              phone:  ++ 61 (09) 360-2843 (work)*
*        Murdoch WA 6150  AUSTRALIA              ++ 61 (09) 417-3902 (home)*
*************************** "To Love is to _LIVE_!" ************************
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From: keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen)
Subject: Re: Old Coots Test (was A grinning Nightstalker)
Organization: Murdoch University
Date: 29 Sep 92 06:42:35 GMT

Mark Beirne Lively <ml5a+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>	What the grade splits are varies a lot from place to place.  Actually
>in some places there are intermediate schools 7-8 middle schools (I
>can't remember what the split is here) and Jr High schools 7-9.  All in
>the same school district.  And this is from one of the best school
>districts in the country.  Or so they said.  Shyeah Right!(Sorry saw
>Wayne's World again last night)

Hmmm - intermediate school ... Splash reflects on his days at school in NZ: I
went to a primary school up to age 10 (primers 1-4 and standards 1-4), and then
to an intermediate school for 2 years prior to high school (forms 1-2).  High
school ran from forms 3-7, depending on what you wanted to do after that.  I
came to Australia at the end of form 5 and entered upper-high school, for years
11-12, which enabled me to enter uni.

Stumpy might have a better idea of NZ schools - are intermediate schools the
norm there?  Ours was built about a year before I got there, and I never knew
of another system.  We don't have 'em here in West Oz.

Splash!

--
***************************** Michael van Keulen *************************** 
* Snail: School of BES - Biology         e-mail: keulen@murdoch.edu.au     *
*        Murdoch University              phone:  ++ 61 (09) 360-2843 (work)*
*        Murdoch WA 6150  AUSTRALIA              ++ 61 (09) 417-3902 (home)*
*************************** "To Love is to _LIVE_!" ************************
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From: keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen)
Subject: Re: A Toast.
Organization: Murdoch University
Date:  2 Oct 92 07:00:40 GMT

u906451@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Damien Saunders) writes:

>Now, the problems with my newish contacts are that I still have difficulty
>removing them in the evenings and on last Saturday I spent 3/4 of an hour
>trying to put in the left lens.

Heh - they're fun aren't they ... I presume you have soft contacts (flexible
plastic types).  I hope they work for you.  I tried a soft contact lens (I only
had one dodgy eye at that stage) several years ago; I decided that they were so
much trouble (grit under them, itchiness, time consumed in cleaning 'em) that I
ended up not wearing them.  After a few years of not wearing them I again
visited the optometrist and picked up a pair of glasses (non-tinted) and now
wear them almost all the time.  For me, the contact was a bit of a pain,
especially with diving, etc.  This is not to say they aren't wonderful ... I
have many friends who absolutely LOVE them, and reckon they're _better_ than
sliced bread.  Good luck with yours.

Splash!

--
***************************** Michael van Keulen *************************** 
* Snail: School of BES - Biology         e-mail: keulen@murdoch.edu.au     *
*        Murdoch University              phone:  ++ 61 (09) 360-2843 (work)*
*        Murdoch WA 6150  AUSTRALIA              ++ 61 (09) 417-3902 (home)*
*************************** "To Love is to _LIVE_!" ************************
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From: rlm7337@tamsun.tamu.edu (Incarnadine)
Subject: Re: A test of the national broadcasting system.
Organization: Castle BBS
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:15:50 GMT

Greetings once again...thanks to all who wrote me about this, I know
know more than any man should know about this.  I'm sorry I haven't
been posting lately, but I've been awful busy.  I have to be content to
lurk awhile...more from me soon (I hope)...

Incarnadine...

p.s. since there is another John here, please call me Incarnadine to 
alleviate confusion.  You can call me Inky for short, but only if you're
nice about it *grin*.

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From: keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen)
Subject: Re: colorfully descriptive phrases
Organization: Murdoch University
Date:  1 Oct 92 06:46:08 GMT

feath@agora.rain.com (Feather) writes:

-  Three fries short of a Happy Meal.
-  As welcome as a hyperactive puppy at a housecat convention.

How about a classic Australian one:

-  Flat out like a lizard drinking.

Splash!


--
***************************** Michael van Keulen *************************** 
* Snail: School of BES - Biology         e-mail: keulen@murdoch.edu.au     *
*        Murdoch University              phone:  ++ 61 (09) 360-2843 (work)*
*        Murdoch WA 6150  AUSTRALIA              ++ 61 (09) 417-3902 (home)*
*************************** "To Love is to _LIVE_!" ************************
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From: saiki@mpg.phys.hawaii.edu (L. Saiki)
Subject: Re: schools re: Old Coots Test
Organization: University of Hawaii, Dept. of Physics & Astronomy
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 16:22:24 GMT


Jim says:
>:    Well, I have attended schools: Elementary was 1-6, junior high was
>: 7-9 { with a graduation from 9th }, and 10-12 was high school. There
>: was one school I went to that elementary was 1-7, jr. was 8 and 9th,
>: and 10-12 was high school.

Alfvaen responds:
>"With me, in Alberta, it was 1-6, 7-9, and 10-12 too.  We did have some
>grade 9 classes at the high school, and some K-8 schools, but by and large that
>was the pattern.

>"One time I was talking to some American kids(from Arizona and California area,
>I believe).  I was 12 at the time, and had just finished grade 9.  This
>impressed them, also being 12 but only being in grade 7.  One of them said,
>'Gee, you're already a freshman?'

All of the schools here go from K-6, and most schools follow the 7-8 as 
intermediate, and 9-12 as high school.  There were some that had 7-9 as
interm. and 10 - 12 as hs.  One of my favorite but late teachers had
always said to our Freshman [9th grade] HIstory class, that "9th graders
are not human." Grinning when he said that, and would add, "that is why
some schools don't allow them into high schools" and start them from
10th grade.

He also said the level of maturity is so different between noisy ninth
graders and tenth graders.  I do agree with him, although I think 
kids from the 6th grade to 12th grade are not human but some abomination; 
god's wrath or the devil playing some cruel joke on teachers.  

>"This was the first time I'd heard of the freshman/sophomore/junior/senior
>pattern applied to high school, since it had always been a 3-year thing where I
>lived.  And nobody up here refers to them as freshmen etc. until university,
>and even then not much."

I am not sure if it is different here, but everyone labels high 
school kids by their rank.  I suppose it depends on who you talk to.  
My cousin was in high school when I was in elementary school, so I 
heard the hs ranking early.

The teachers at my high school used to label us by our class - Freshman 
[or as one I-want-to-kill-her teacher always said: Frosh] <agonized
scream>, Sophomore [the same <scream> English teacher always said:
sophOmore], Junior, and Senior..

>---Alfvaen(Canadian SF Quasi-Activist)
>"And when the thunder breaks, it breaks for you and me."
>   ---This Mortal Coil

Spacey buys Alfvaen a drink, handing it to him.  He looks at her
questionably.  Spacey responds, "This Mortal Coil...Filligree and
Shadow was my favorite record when I was a Junior in high school."

Grinning nostalgically she is reminiscing back to the days she skipped 
school to go out to really nice restaurants, that have since disappeared, 
with her friends.
-- 
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
     The end!					 L. Saiki	
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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From: bard@spuddy.uucp (Mike Whitaker)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Friends ... forever ...
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:47:41 GMT
Organization: Spuddy's Public Usenet Domain

In article <1992Sep29.025439.22949@nntp.uoregon.edu> 
JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt (Thyra)) writes:
>In article <BvAqw7.H5t@cs.columbia.edu>, korz@cs.columbia.edu (Frederick
>Korz) writes:
>> In article <1992Sep28.132933.1839@samba.oit.unc.edu> Jack.Smoke@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Jack Smoke) writes:
>> >Smoke re-enters the bar.  "I have been asked to speak more fully of
>> >Arty's death.  I knew he had friends here, but I am surprised at 
>> >the number and depth of feeling.
>> >	Thyra, Arty was a Cherokee.  Instead of an Irish wake, lut us
>> >to the meadow, build a fire, and speak his death."
>
><Smoke speaks eloquently of the Artful Dodger's career>
>> >	Smoke tosses the jacket into the fire and sits back,
>> >watching it burn.
>
><Thyra walks up to smoke, and nods quietly.>
>
>     Well spoken brother. You are of course correct. We should follow the
>customs of his people. I have a small token for him. 
>
><She reaches into a small black bag, and pulls out a small cylander with an
>anteanna. It is a radio location transponder, of the type she has seen used
>in SAR operations before. She tosses it into the flames, and returns to the
>circle of friends.>
>
>     May his spirit walk in beauty. May he find in the next word that which
>he seeks. May his summers be long, and the hunting plentiful.
>
><Jason steps forward. He is in full-dress whites, in the uniform of a US
>Navy sailor. He tosses a metal cube, about 18 inches on a side, into the
>bonfire.>
>
>     Seems to me he could make good use of a satelite navigation system.
>Calm seas, Artful dodger, from one who was also in the Navy. Data Systems
>Technician Third Class, Jay Brandt, of the guided missile cruiser Wm. H.
>Standley, CG-32, salutes your brave service.
>
><He walks back to join thyra and the
>others>.

The Bard watches the ritual, hands straying nervously to the strings of 
Princess. At length he raises his voice just enough to be heard over the 
crackling flames. 
	"Arty - I think we spoke maybe two or three times here... It wasn't
enough - I only wish I could have know you better." He strums a chord. "This
wasn't originally for you - but somehow the first verse fits..." He picks a 
rippling chord, reading words from a scribbled note in his lap...

	"Fire across the water, 
	Silence on the wind.
	Oak leaves now are falling,
	Winter soon begins.
	Now I wish I'd taken time to tell you everything...
	But it's far too late to say the things I wanted to."

He lets the final, bare, chord die into silence, then rolls up the paper. 
Softly he says. "The rest of the song is appropriate too, I guess, but not
for me to sing. Safe journey, and calm seas." The roll of paper hits the 
fire, curls and blackens, then flares up and is gone.
-- 
    "Bard's just *know* things" - Me to the Grey Lady, in a rash moment
E-mail to: mikew@mdcbbs.com, mwhitaker@cix.compulink.co.uk or bard@spuddy.uucp
And remember folks, Spuddy sez dial 0203 638780 for free Usenet access - Mrowr
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From: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt (Jason))
Subject: Colorful Phrases
Organization: University of Oregon, Architecture
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 20:24:40 GMT

<Jason walks up to the chalkboard and adds a few more descriptive phrases
to Feather's growing list.>

It's a very froggy day today.

"Hey! Wait a minute. What do you mean by that?"
<says an unidentified lurker from the rafters.>

Well, when I went outside, there was a lot of ground-fog, and the fog was
knee-deep. 

<Cue sound-effects sample: a hundred or so tree-frogs in chorus, going...
Neee-deep! Ribbit. Neeee-deep! Nee-Deeep! Ribbit! Ribbit!>

<He writes a few more.>

Going like a cat with its tail afire. (Moving fast)

And we're off! Like a herd of turtles. (For a slow start to a trip)

I don't think he's got both oars in the water. (For someone who is
confused)

About as welcome as a fart in a space-suit. (Very unwelcome / unpleasant)

----------------------------------------

<Pegasus adds a remark of her own>

This isn't really in the category you requested, Feather, but it's good for
a chuckle. I actually overheard this pun between a clerk and a customer in
a bookstore, and they actually hadn't realized what a stinker they had
said.

Clerk, looking at the selected books - "Are you a horse lover?"
Customer - "Neigh!"

<Hugs>
Jason and Pegasus
From: Wales.Larrison@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Congrats! Successful spacecraft launch!
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Sep 21 1992
Date: 27 Sep 92  20:38:28

>Great news from Kennedy Space Center, JPL, and Canberra!  I used to
>work part-time for the Mars Observer Camera people, so I've been
>following this one closely.
> 
>                         MARS OBSERVER STATUS REPORT
>                        Launch Day  September 25, 1992
> 
> .... [Successful Launch!]
> 
   The sound of clapping is heard from the back of the bar.  Sitting
at his table in the back, Wales is applauding the launch of the
spacecraft Carl worked with.
   "Congrats Carl!"  Wales tosses 2 silver dollars into the cigar
box for Mike.  "Mike, would you pleasepour Carl and myself shots of
Rocket Fuel."  Wales winks at Carl -- "Learned this from an old
rocketeer ...."
    Mike fusses a minute behind the bar, and puts up two small shot
glasses, gently steaming with icy condensation.  "Two Raumfahrets
coming up."
    [Note to the crowd -- straight grain alcohol, a bit of of
hot pepper vodka for taste, and cooled to near- cryogenic
temperatures.  Usually served with a small sliver of dry ice for
effect -- since liquid oxygen is SO hard on the lips...]
  
    Wales beckons to Carl, and waves to invite any of the other
patrons to join. "And now Carl, if you'd care to join me at the
line...."
  
    He turns and faces the fireplace.  "To where no man has gone
before ... YET!"
  
    <GULP!>  As it goes down in one large gulp, you feel first the
icy cold of space on your lips, then the fire from the engines on
your tongue, and finally, the warmth of the burn in your stomach.
  
    <CRASH!>
  
     Before heading back to his table, Wales gives Carl a big hug.
"Congrats on your second launch!  I'm up to about 58  -- Mariner
Venus/Mercury, Vikings 1 & 2, Pioneer Venus, Seasat, Voyagers 1 & 2,
IRAS, and all of the shuttle missions."
  
 -------------------------------------------------------------------
 Wales Larrison                         Space Technology Investor
  

--- Maximus 2.00
From: hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Old Coots Test (was A grinning Nightstalker)
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:07:38 GMT
Organization: The Cat Factory

In article <9209281911.AA15854@yrloc.ipsa.reuter.COM> dgil@ipsaint.ipsa.reuter.com (Gillett, David) writes:
}     Soprano claims she never heard of "High School" being anything *but*
}grades 9-12.  And then she prompty refers to some new-fangled idea called
}"Junior High" which is grades 7 and 8.
}     Pooh!  In my day, "Public" or "Elementary" school went all the way to
}grade 8, and the notion of separate larger schools for grades 7 and 8 was still
}considered radically experimental.

"As has been noted, these things vary enormously by jurisdiction.  For me,
and the L.A. Unified School District, grammar school was K-6, jr. high
was 7-9 and high was 10-12."

The Polymath (aka: Jerry Hollombe, M.A., CDP, aka: hollombe@polymath.tti.com)
Head Robot Wrangler at Citicorp                   Turn the rascals out!
3100 Ocean Park Blvd.   (310) 450-9111, x2483     No incumbents in '92!
Santa Monica, CA  90405