From: briand@anasazi.com (Brian Douglass)
Subject: Re: An Apology to Ted
Organization: Anasazi Inc Phx Az USA
Distribution: world, na, usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:43:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.130523.6747@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> turnert@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Thom F Turner ) writes:
>In article <1992Dec18.231126.21279@anasazi.com> briand@anasazi.com (Brian Douglass) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec18.091953.19727@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> turnert@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Thom F Turner ) writes:
>>>In article <1992Dec16.174347.17899@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes:
>>>>In article <1992Dec15.042117.3695@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin) writes:
>>>>
>>>>>Ted is typical of Arizona...
>>>>
>>>>>The last state to pass a Martin Luther King day
>>>>
>>>>You left out, "The only state to pass a Martin Luther King Day Holiday by 
>>>>popular vote."
>>>>
>>>Hmmm...
>>What the hell does a person's political affiliations have to do with
>>Physics?!  Either the man knew his business or didn't.  But to gloat over
>>the idea that you toppled him (as if he was Somoza or someone) and that his
>>knowledge as a physcists was irrelevant, clearly shows a you speak for a group 
>>of people that have their priorities mixed up.
>>
>>By that kind of thinking you would have preferred to replace Edward Teller
>>with Freddie Mercury (whom I do believe had a PhD in Astrophysics from
>>Oxford).  To hell with truth, dogma is more important.
>>

deleted a piece without attributation.  Tsk, tsk.  Well, I'll just put it
back.
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>>
>>I think this speaks for itself that PC does exist on American Campuses and
>>we are seeing a modern equivelant of the Inquisition, or American
>>equivalent of the Cultural Revolution.  Pick your analogy.
>
>
>I'd agree with the statement: "What does a person's political affiliation
>have to do with physics?"  If the Physics Department Head had spent more
>time on physics and less time on sending memos to administration (on
>official UA letterhead) comparing gays and lesbians to "gila monsters and
>communists" there wouldn't have been such an interest in "toppling" him
>as department head.

That's a personnel issue to be dealt with by a personnel office.  But
original commentary again portends that he was summarily dismissed because
of his views, not because of any insubordination of authority (ie. a rule
that says you can't compare gays to gila monsters on UA letterhead for
which he should be disclipined).

>On PC existing on American Campuses:  The radical right-wing of this 
>country believes in a myth, that of the "Politically Correct Movement."
>Anytime someone raises an issue that the right-winger doesn't agree
>with, that right-winger writes it off as part of the "PC Movement"
>thereby trivializing someone's legitimate concern(s).  PC doesn't exist...
>at least not as the Radical Right-Wing likes to believe it exists.  The
>Republican National Convention proved this year that there is a PC
>movement of the Right: either you hate homos and force women to have
>children against their wills and are against affirmative action and 
>many other social programs, or you aren't a PC republican.

Lets flip this around.  Yes PC lives and breathes on American Campuses.
Yes PC lives and breathes in Right-Wing politics (I probably know about
this far better than you).  But just because right-wingers trivialize your
arguments with PC doesn't mean you can do likewise.

Any minority of the citizenry right or left that pushes its moral dogma on 
others against their wishes is just seeking its own version of PC.
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