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From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: ** ALERT! ** Mutlu is Mutating to "hbm" - Update KILL files!'
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:20:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: actrix.1992Apr8.012026.27071
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <m0lY7xb-0003RGC@ddsw1.mcs.com> hbm@ddsw1.UUCP writes:
> 
> <22040402370661@WISCMACC.BitNet>
> UCNICK@UMUC.BitNet (Nick Gavrielatos)
> 
> >Mutlu-the-cannibal!!!
> >Exposing(literally) your corass, is not the best gift I can give
> >to myself mutlu-malak(I know you only wash it every other ramazan),
> >but what the mutlu,  I'll have you scrab and bleach it first....
>  
> Don't let your own needs get in your way, 'Gav*0.'

extraneous comments deleted
> 
> Hasan B-) Mutlu
> 
>                      'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
>                       and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
>                       Turkish children also should be killed as 
>                       they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
>                                      (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)
> 
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                         Looks like old news to me........

*WARNING* !!!!!
 
hasan b. mutlu is mutating! BEWARE of 'hmb'!

This creates vast new possibilities for the "mutlu kill file competition".
 
Who will be the first to sight and down a mutlu variation/mutant?
 
Steve Withers 
Self-Appointed Moderator of Whatever It Is I'm Doing.


 
-- 
Steve Withers - Wellington, New Zealand | "But the glory kept shining
Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz         |  and bright in my eyes, 
Ph. +64 4 478-4714  /                   |  And the stars going round in 
FAX between 6am and 1pm Eastern ST      |  my head." R. L. S.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Not A Chance, 'Starkey:' The Turkish Genocide.
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:28:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: ddsw1.m0lbWVR-0003YPC


<14673@vela.acs.oakland.edu>
rwstarke@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Ross W. Starkey)

>3. Anything by Hassan Mutlu (alt.garbage.trash.throw.out)

All in all you are just another brick in the wall, 'Starkey.' What
do you have to add?

Source: "A British Source (1916) on the Armenian Question," by Turkkaya
        Ataov, Ankara, 1985.

p. 14.

"Dixon-Johnson relates (p. 47) that bands of armed Armenian volunteers were
 already operating in the country as early as March 1915, and Lord Bryce as
 well as the 'Friends of Armenia' were appealing for funds to clothe and 
 equip them...Furthermore, Tsarist Russia was also arming the Armenians and
 assisting in fomenting rebellion. For instance, the Armenians of Van 
 believing, after the Turkish defeat at Sarikamis, that the complete victory
 of Russia was assured, thought that their opportunity had arrived. Urged by 
 the Russian agents and their own revolutionaries, they rose in revolt, and, 
 as a Times correspondent admits, in an unguarded moment, 'finally captured
 the town of Van and took bloody vengeance on their enemies'. In June the 
 Armenians betrayed the town of Van to the Russian troops. Dixon-Johnson admits
 that 'there were organized risings in other parts of Asia Minor also' 
 (p. 48)."

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)
From: aormeci@ra.ps.uci.edu (Alim Ormeci)
Subject: Re: gizli adla yazili olanlar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 11 Apr 92 09:33:34 GMT

In article <9204110224.AA02641@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU> Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BITNET@forsythe.Stanford.EDU> writes:
=>Asagida soyadlari yazili trknws-l uyeleri listede adlarini gizli
=>yapmislar.
=>
=>Bu bizlere gucluk cikarmakta. (trknws-l sahibi gizlide olsa adlari
=>gorebilmekte.)
=>
=>Listede adlarinizi okunur hale getirebilir misiniz?
=>
=>    [ ... ]
=>trknws-l yoneticisi
=>

Daha once de yazilmisti galiba. Bu yazilara fazla anlam veremiyorum, kusura
bakmayin. Eger bu haber listesi de diger LISTSERV'ler gibiyse o zaman liste
sahibinin kendisi gizli uyelerin gizliligini kaldirabilir. Zamaninda TEL'in
liste sahipligini yaptigim icin nelerin olasi oldugunu biliyorum. Liste sa-
hibinin yapmasi gerekenler soyle siralanabilir:

i) Gizli uyelerin saptanmasi (ki bunu zaten yapmislar, ve teshir bile etmisler)
ii)Listserv'e, her gizli uye icin su komutun yollanmasi:

set trknws-l noconceal for gizlininkullanicikodu@machine.site.domain

Bu kadar. 

(Aslinda bu komut bilinmese bile yine liste sahibi gizli uyeyi cikarip
yeniden acik olarak uye yapabilir; del(add) trknws-l usercode@... Bundan
dolayi da gizli uyelerin ne gibi sorunlar yarattigini anlayamamaktayim.)

Her neyse. TRKNWS-L'in hizmetinden memnun oldugumu ayrica belirtir ve 
emegi gecen tum arkadaslara tesekkurlerimi iletirim.

Iyi gunler,
Alim Ormeci
From: guncer@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Selim E. Guncer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Dunya'da Turkiye -otomobil- (Rakamlarla Turkiye)
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:27:07 GMT
Organization: Arizona State University


In article <1992Apr15.084421.14684@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, vd8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Vedat  Dogan) writes:
> In article <1992Apr14.164543.3744@ennews.eas.asu.edu> guncer@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Selim E. Guncer) writes:
> >	Ben de Suat'in yazdiklarina katiliyorum.  Turkiye'de trafik sorunu
>  
>  Tabi ki katilabilirsin..
>  
> >ile ilgili ciddi duzenlemeler yapilmadikca sokaklara otomobil salinmasi
> >hatali. Trafik ve cevre kirliligi ufak problemler degil ki birtakim
>  
>  Sanki ortaya kudurmus kopek 'saliniyor'..Olayi cok dramatize ettiniz ..
>  sadece daha cok oto uretelim dendi..iyiki hani cok kotu bir sey denmedi -:)
>  cevre problemlerini de bir zahmet siz cozun.. itiraz etmek yerine..  

Niye bu kadar saldirgansin? Daha once de olmustu bak. Alt tarafi Turkiye'deki
otomobil sayisi sozkonusu olan yahu. Adam oldurmuyoruz. Iyi hos birtakim ilginc
sayilar gonderiyorsun ama kimsenin yorum yapmasina izin vermiyorsun.

>  
> >Turkiye'de bisiklet kullanimi ne? Bisiklet yollarinin, caddelerdeki
> >bisiklet seritlerinin toplam uzunlugu kac km? 
> >
>   
>  Bu alternatifte ciddi misin ?..umarim degilsindir..yoksa cok yazik..
>    

Evet, hem de son derece ciddiyim. Ucuz (otomobil maliyetinin 40'da biri), 
dis ulkelere enerji bagimliligini azaltan, cevreyi kirletmeyen, park 
sorunu olmayan, trafik kazalarina yol acmayan, rahatlikla 30-40 km/sa 
ortalama hizlara ulasabilen bisiklet  Bati Avrupa ve ABD'de trafik 
sorununun azaltilmasi icin ciddi bir alternatifse niye Turkiye'de de
olmasin?  


Selim



--
Selim Guncer	    Me viene, hay dias, una gana politica, de querer,
CSSER-ASU	     de basar al cari~no en sus dos rostros, y me viene  
(602)-965-4096	      de lejos un querer demonstrativo, otro querer amar, 
		       de grado o fuerza, al que me odia.. (Cesar V. )
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From: covdy@shemesh.metaphor.com (Ivan Covdy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: ...Most Interested In Justification Of This Assertion, 'Wieneramus.'
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:27:34 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish

in article <1992Apr3.000714.20044@leland.Stanford.EDU#, orhan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Orhan Mehmet Arsel) says:
# 
# Exactly right. When Turkey was able to hold 21 Soviet divisions and
# three Air Wings near the Caucasus, she received quite a lot of respect,
# mainly from Germany. (Mind you that Turkey has the second largest armed
# force in NATO and fifth largest in the world, which has been considered
# as a significant threat by the Soviets). But now that the Soviet threat
# does not exist anymore, our friends in the west started to show their
# true faces. I guess this has been a good lesson for Turkey since we 
# now know better who our real friends are. Believe me, we all prefer
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~    
# a true rival to a fake friend.
# 
# Sincerely,
# 
# Orhan Arsel.

May I ask you who your REAL friends are? Iran? Iraq? Libia?
Just curiosity...
-- 
Ivan Covdy, covdy@shemesh.metaphor.com, Metaphor Computer System, CA, USA
 *** People are looking for a Mind somewhere in the Universe,      ***
 *** because on the Earth they've been finding only the Stupidity. ***
From: munlu1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Mustafa Unlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: DUNYA GUZELI
Date: 11 Apr 92 17:13:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: cc.PJMHBGKX
Reply-To: munlu1@cc.swarthmore.edu
Organization: Esoterics, inc.


Aman Yarabbim!

Hemide Hristiyan'lara bak. Bizim kizlarimizi mayo ilen gorup te zafer ilan
etmisler.

Vahset, nasil oldu da anlayamadik bu hiristiyan zaferini onca yildir..

M.

-- 
The problem with the old law of "An eye for an eye" is that it leaves
everyone blind.						MLK (Paraphrased)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: senel@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Hakan Senel)
Subject: ERKEK GUZELI YARISMASI SONUCLANDI. SON YAZI.
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:06:20 GMT

Sayin SCT sakinleri,
   
    Tertiplenen Erkek guzeli yarismasinin sonuclarini bildiriyoruz.

EVEEEET.... Guzellik yarismasi sonuclandi. Uzun arastirma ve ciddi 
incelemeler sonucunda guzelleri sectik. Hakikaten cok zor oldu.
Secerken bayagi terledik. Hele SCT'de belirip bir sure anlasilamayan
bir yarismaci bize cok zor anlar yasatti. Jurimizin sectigi guzellerden
Guzellik Kralini sunuyoruz.

***************************************************************************
forward guzeli olarak bir onceki posting'imizdeki onerilen arkadasimiz ...
Kral secilmekle beraber, FORWARDediverme guzelligini kazandiniz. Sizi 
kutlariz. Tebrik ederiz. Kendinize iyi bakiniz. Hayatta ve FORWARD etme 
konusundaki basarilarin devamini dileriz. Nice nice FORWARDlar.
  * Odulunuzu postaladik, hayirli olmasi temennisiyle....   
***************************************************************************

>Insallah ders almissindir! Yoksa bacini yarismada gormeyelim.
>Su gavurca yaziyida aciklada bileleim.

>Ali Kodal
************************************************************************
Sayin Arkadasimiz,
  Tebrikler.... TurkDiliImlaVeDilBilgisi guzeli olmaya hak kazandiniz.
Ayrica, SCT'de beliren mesajiniz cok derin anlamlar tasidigi ve DEHSET verici 
bir ahenk icerdigi gerekcesiyle juri ozel odulu olan DahiEkiniKullanabilme 
guzeli secildiniz. Sizi kutluyoruz. Odulunuz olan Ilkokul 1. sinif Turk 
Dili ve Imla bilgisi kitabi, ayrica ``On Derste Dahi Eki Nasil Kullanilir ?'' 
kitapcigi adresinize postalanacaktir.  

  Simdi ise bu odulleri kazandiran yaziyi bir kere daha gorelim. 

**********************************************************************
>Insallah ders almissindir! Yoksa bacini yarismada gormeyelim.
>Su gavurca yaziyida aciklada bileleim.
**********************************************************************

Insallah Turk Dili ve Imla bilgisi dersi almissindir! Yoksa yazini yarismamizda
gormezdik. Su tavukca yaziyi acikla da bileyleyelim (veya leblebilenelim)
(Ancak bu kadar cevirelebilinebiliniyor)
**************************************************************************

Sayin Suleyman Kondakci,
  Yaziniz gercekten cok anlamliydi. Ilginiz ve uyariniz icin tesekkur
ederim. Zaten bu kadar civikligin yeter oldugu dusuncesindeydim. Guzellik 
yarismasini da bitirdik zaten. Bahane de kalmadi. Ellerinizden operim..... 

Sevgilerimle
Hakan.....
*********************************************************************
* senel@vuse.vanderbilt.edu                      * EDERSIN FORVORD **
* Tel# 343-8261  (is)                            * OLURSUN    LORD **
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From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek
Subject: Fairness Dictates That You Are Wrong, 'Gav*0:' The Turkish Genocide.
Date: 17 Apr 92 01:02:00 GMT



<22041523105956@WISCMACC.BitNet>
UCNICK@UMUC.BitNet (Nick Gavrielatos)

>Not only here, but all the time mutlu, from 87, and even beyond
>you have not descended, but dragged into mudd and spit and dirt!!!
 
Darn; 'Gav*0' machine is down again. Fairness dictates that you are
wrong. 

Source: Doc. Dr. Azmi Suslu, "Russian View on the Atrocities Committed
        by the Armenians Against the Turks," Ankara Universitesi, Ankara,
        1987, pp. 45-53.

"Sometime in January and February, a leading Turkish citizen Haci Bekir
 Efendi from Erzurum, was killed one night at his home. The Commander
 in Chief (Odiselidge) gave orders to find murderers within three days.
 The Commander in Chief has bitterly reminded the Armenian intellectuals
 that disobedience among the Armenian enlisted men had reached its
 highest point, that they had insulted and robbed the people and half
 of the Turks sent outside the city had not returned.

 ...We learnt the details this incident from the Commander-in-Chief,
 Odishelidge. They were as follows:

 The killings were organized by the doctors and the employers, and the
 act of killing was committed solely by the Armenian renegades...
 More than eight hundred unarmed and defenceless Turks have been
 killed in Erzincan. Large holes were dug and the defenceless 
 Turks were slaughtered like animals next to the holes. Later, the
 murdered Turks were thrown into the holes. The Armenian who stood 
 near the hole would say when the hole was filled with the corpses:
 'Seventy dead bodies, well, this hole can take ten more.' Thus ten
 more Turks would be cut into pieces, thrown into the hole, and when
 the hole was full it would be covered over with soil."

                  (to be continued...)

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)
From: suley@xantos.uio.no (Suleyman Kondakci)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Dunya'da Turkiye -otomobil- (Rakamlarla Turkiye)
Date: 13 Apr 92 10:13:49 GMT
Reply-To: suley@xantos.uio.no (Suleyman Kondakci)
Organization: University of Oslo, Norway

In article <1992Apr13.084544.16780@funet.fi>, ayoz@tut.fi (Ayoz Suat) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Apr12.025237.10526@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>,
vd8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Vedat  Dogan) writes:
> |> 
>  Details skipped
> 
> |>      Boylece 2000'li yillara dogru otomobil uretimde/kullaniminda
dunya 
> |>      ortalamsini gecebilecegiz..
> 
>  Ve yetersiz yollarimizla, korkunc trafigimizle, bilincsiz
suruculerimizle
>  trafik kazalarindaki dunya birinciligimizi pekistirirken, cevre
kirlenme-
>  sinde de ilk siralarda iddiali hale gelebilecegiz. Toplu tasimaciligi
hep-
>  ten unutup, herkesi borc-harc araba sahibi yapmaya tesvik edecegiz.
Sonra
>  da "Cag atladik" turkuleri soyleyenlerin pesine takilacagiz, bir
bakmisiz
>  ki onlardan biri olmusuz.     


	Ama sayin cumhurbaskanimiz 1989 yilinda karayollarini gelistirmeye
	onem verecegiz diyordu. Bunu savunurken en onemli argumenti de
	demiryolu tasimaciligi 'komunizmdir' diyordu. Hosuma gitmisti :-)
	Sayin 'damgacilar' ben komunist degilim, hemen damgalamayin oldumu!!!

	Bence cevre korunmasi bilincinin henuz bir cok yonetmen kisi
	farkinda degil. Olsa bile Turkiyedeki mega-issizlik onlari
	karar alirken zor durumda birakiyor. Ama kaos-teoremini
	her alanda en iyi kanitlayan bir sistemi yasayan
	Turkiye halki ne yapabilirki? Giga trafik kazalari,
	mega kayip depremlerde, teta kayip guvensiz is ortamlarinda
	(Zonguldak faciasi) ... fazla sayip midenizi bulandirmaya hakkim yok.

Selam getirmisem
Suleyman Kondakci

> |>  
> |>  
> |> Saygilarimla,
> |> ismet
> |>  
> |>            
>  Benden de saygilar,
>  Suat Ayoz
From: suley@xantos.uio.no (Suleyman Kondakci)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: DUNYA GUZELI
Date: 14 Apr 92 11:57:05 GMT
Reply-To: suley@xantos.uio.no (Suleyman Kondakci)
Organization: University of Oslo, Norway

In article <bal+f5B@engin.umich.edu>, avrat@caen.engin.umich.edu (Ali
Kodal) writes:
> In article <1992Apr10.193747.26388@ennews.eas.asu.edu>
guncer@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Selim E. Guncer) writes:
> >In article <1992Apr10.162708.21948@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>,
camh@ed.ecn.purdue.edu (Hasan Cam) writes:
	[ .......... ]

> >> --------------------------------------------------------------
> >> 
> >> Prof. Dr. Ayhan Songar
	Misakiyye profesoru, ogrendikleri takvim yapraklarindan ve
	'bosluktan gelen nidalardan; 
> >>
************************************************************************
*
> >
> >Beyaz-Turk-Sunni Islam sentezcisi Ayhan Songar'in derdi bu mu?
> >Takvim yapraklarindan ogrenilen tarih?  Aman ibret aldik,
dehsetlendik,
> >sagol.
> >
> >--
> >Selim Guncer					Va bushkate otro amor
> >CSSER-Arizona State University			Aharvar otras puertas
> >guncer@enuxha.eas.asu.edu			Aspera otro ardor	
> >(602)-965-4096					Ke para mi sos muerta
> 
> Insallah ders almissindir! Yoksa bacini yarismada gormeyelim.

	Ah nerde o sans benim bacimda! Zavalli koyde zorla kocaya verilmek
	zorunda kaldi.

> Su gavurca yaziyida aciklada bileleim.
> 
> Ali Kodal

Selam getirmisem
Suleyman Kondakci
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: camh@ed.ecn.purdue.edu (Hasan Cam)
Subject: DUNYA GUZELI
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:27:08 GMT



>Sender: "Turkish Students Assistance Association"
              <TSAA-L@VM.CC.PURDUE.EDU>
From: TAPS6@CLUSTER.SUSSEX.AC.UK
Subject:      forward...
To: Multiple recipients of list TSAA-L
              <TSAA-L@VM.CC.PURDUE.EDU>
Status: RO

esselamualeykum,

asagida postahaneye gonderilen bir yaziyi forward ediyorum.

cavusoglu.


--------------------------------------------------------------
Asagidaki  yazi 3.Nisan.1992 tarihli Turkiye Gazetesinde alinmis
Prof.Dr. Ayhan Songar' in yazisidir. Bilgilerinize sunuyorum.
Z.Arvasi
*****************************************************************

                              DEHSET

    Lutfi Ikiz kardesimiz bana Konyadan bir takvim-imsakiye gondermis.
Her gune bir sayfa ayrilan imsakiyede dunyanin cesitli ulkelerindeki
namaz vakitleri verilmekte, ayrica ufak ufak makaleler  de yer almis
bulunmakta. Sayfalari cevirirken birden bire karsima cikan biryazida
beni dehsete dusurdu, sevgili okuyucularim. Yazida 1932 yilinda dunya
guzellik yarismasindan soz ediyordu. Ben ufak bir cocuk tum ama bugun
gibi hatirlarim, adayimiz evvala "CUMHURIYET GAZETESI" tarafindan ter-
tiblenen musabakada belirlenmis ve KERIMAN HALIS hanim, Turk guzeli
olarak katildigi DUNYA GUZELI secilmisti. Cesitli ulkelerden gelmis
guzeler juri heyetinin onunde mayolariyla arzi endem ettik ten sonra
juri baskaninin yaptigi konusma aynen soyle, ibretle ve dehsetle okuyun.

   SAYIN JURI UYELERI, BUGUN AVRUPANIN HIRISTIYANLIGIN ZAFERINI KUTLU-
YORUZ. 1400 DIR HAKIMIYETINI SURDUREN ISLAMIYET ARTIK BITMISTIR. ELBETTE
AMERIKANIN VE RUSYANIN HAKKINI INKAR EDEMEYIZ. NETICEDE BU HIRISTIYAN-
LIGIN ZAFERIDIR. BIR ZAMANLAR SOKAGI BILE KAFES ARKASINDAN SEYREDEBILEN
MUSLUMAN KADINLARIN TEMSILCISI TURK GUZELI KERIMAN MAYO ILE ARAMIZDADIR.
BU KIZI ZAFERIMIZIN TAJI KABUL EDECEGIZ, ONU KRALICE SECECEGIZ. ONDAN
DAHA GUZELI VARMIS, YOKMUS, BU ONEMLI DEGIL. BU SENE GUZELLIK KRALICESI
 SECMIYORIUZ. BU SENE HIRISTIYANLIGIN ZAFERINI KUTLUYORUZ. AVRUPANIN ZAFERINI
KUTLUYORUZ. BIR ZAMANLAR FRANSA DA OYNANAN DANSA MUDAHALE EDEN K. SULTAN
SULEYMANIN TORUNU ISTE MAYO VE SUDUYEN ILE ONUMUZDEDIR. KENDINI BIZLERE
BEYENDIRMEK ISTEMEK TEDIR. BIZ DE BIZE UYAN BU KIZI BEYENDIK. MUSLUMAN
LARINI GELECEGI BOYLE OLMASO TEMENNISIYLE, TURK GUZELINI DUNYA GUZELI
OLARAK SECIYORUZ. FAKAT KADEHLEMIZI AVRUPANIN ZAFERI ICIN KALDIRACAGIZ.

  ................
..................
....................Bari tarihten ibret alin beyler... Ve, ne olur, kizlar
inizin kollarini tutun, kendilerini anlatinki, " Karpuz guzeli, Domates
guzeli, bilmemne guzeli" secilmek oyle pekte ovulenecek seyler degildir.
Ne zaman uyanacagiz, ne vakit aklimiz basimiza gelecek, bilmemki?..

Prof. Dr. Ayhan Songar

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From: thor@surt.atd.ucar.edu (Richard Neitzel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Nazi Armenians (Dro, Boyadjian, Nezhdeh) Sided With The Germans, 'Mil*.'
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:04:34 GMT
Organization: National Center for Atmospheric Research

In article <m0lYVTi-0003YPC@ddsw1.mcs.com>, hbm@ddsw1.UUCP writes:
|> 
|> <1992Apr05.224640.19827@microsoft.com>
|> marcmil@microsoft.com (Marc MILANINI)
|> 
|> >>Not according to a Nazi Armenian called 'Hamparsum Boyadjian' who
|> >>is responsible for the genocide of Turkish people in 1914.
|> 
|> >Interesting. Was he already Nazi in 1914 ? Or is it just you,
|> >Mr Mutlu-famous-historian, that qualifies him of Nazi ?
|> 
|> Your ignorance simply cramps my conversation, 'Milanini.'
Please note that in all the text following this point, you nowhere answered the 
question. Since Nazism is a post World War One phenomena, how can one be 
a Nazi in 1914? Do you mean he later became one? If so, be more accurrate
by specifying so. Of course, this really brings up another question - Can
any non-German peoples truely be considered Nazis? To rephrase the question
in a more correct manner - how did the Nazis view their relationship to other
groups? Where there feelings of kinship or was the relationship simply one
of expediancy?


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