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Could someone please e-mail me with details on how to FTP the GARDEN files from
the archives because the procedure seems to have changed since the instructions
that I have were written.   Not only aren't the files in the WIRETAP.SPIES.COM
computer, the commands on this computer seem to have changed (for example, I
get a error message when I try and ue "chdir" to change a directory).   So
where are the Kate Bush archives nowadays and how do I access them?

Thanks to anyone who can help on this....

Andrew Hoy
University of Canterbury
Christchurch, NEW ZEALAND
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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 01:17:50 -0500
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Subject: TOYS
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Just got back from seeing the new Robin Williams movie, _Toys_.  
Unfortunately, I can't say too much good about it.  The friend I saw it
with and I agree that it had some really great parts and some really
wretched parts, and that it could have been *lots* better.

So why am I posting?  The music, of course!

Like everything about _Toys_, the music had good moments and bad moments.

One good moment was the use of Enya's "Ebudae" (from _Shepherd Moons_).
Another good "moment" (so to speak) is the fact that during the ochestrated
portions of the soundtrack, one of the focal instruments is the uillean
pipe.  Quite beautiful, really.

And the most intersting (to me...) point about the soundtrack:

New music from Tori!  Well, sort of.  I suspect it may have just been
new vocals, because the song didn't sound like _anything_ I've heard from
her.  In fact, I didn't even realize who it was 'til I saw the credits
(how embarassing!)  I sat there during the entire time the song was playing
trying to figure out who it was, knowing it was somebody I really liked
but having no idea _who_.  I attribute this to the arrangement and 
type of song, which was very electronic.  Piano?  We don' need no *steenkin'*
piano!

The soundtrack album is supposed to be available from DGC.  Dunno whether
or not it's available, nor if the Tori song is on it, though I'd guess it
is.  BTW, the name of the song is "Happy Workers".  

(I was so surprised to see the name "Tori Amos" appear on the screen during
the credits that I didn't catch the songwriter, etc.)

Jeff
(who's feeling guilty that he can't provide more info)

|Jeffrey C. Burka                | "Show what you are / Be strong, be true  |
|                                |  Time for you to / Be who you are."      |
|jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu            |                         --Happy Rhodes |




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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:42:01 -0500
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From: Fiona_McQuarrie@sfu.ca
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The impression I always got from "The Big Sky" was of the singer sitting on
a hill, looking at the clouds, etc., and enjoying them, while thinking of
the
inadequacy of the people in her life. I.e. the clouds and sky were
beautiful,
didn't make demands on her, and were just there to be enjoyed, while
people,
well, "never understood..they never really tried.."
 
I don't think this is out of the line with the quote Ron Hill posted, but
I'd sure like to know what part of the song is about things to come....
 
Fiona McQuarrie
fmcquarr@sfu.ca
Fiona McQuarrie, University of Alberta
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OR
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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 14:34:36 -0500
From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
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Subject: Happy Rhodes Credits
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Reading the "thank-you's" for _Warpaint_ was interesting: I saw someone with
one of my nicknames ("Dore") and, surprise surprise, Vickie Mapes!  I know
this is terribly ignorant of me, but I must ask...?

I'm still too enamored of _Warpaint_ to write a review at present.  I shall
bring one back after Break.

Drewcifer
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 06:08:17 -0500
From: uli@intellektik.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Ulrich Grepel)
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Subject: gold records questions
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Hi,

Chris answered my question about gold records:

>     * You can buy almost any recently awarded gold record
>     from the RIAA.

Are these those that are actually presented to the artists
or do these just look the same? What is the RIAA?

>  
>     * Record companies order them by the dozen and give
>       them away to big
>       record stores, radio stations, coke dealers, etc.
>  
And to those who appear on the records. Any way to decide
which one of these is the one that lies before you?

>     * They aren't actually _made_ of gold, just
>     electroplated vinyl.
>  
then buying a single and melting it would be a winner, at least
for a while ;-) Have you ever used a blue Mauritius as just
a bit of paper?

>     * The "Gold Record" isn't even an actual copy of the
>       record awarded.
>       It's just some record that the plating plant uses.
>       Really. Whenever I see a "gold record" I count the
>       bands. I've yet to find _one_ that matches the
>       number of bands on the record to tracks on the label.

Is that true for those that are presented to the artists?

>  
>     * The gold or platinum plating _ruins_ the sound.

or your record player needle... But: would you really PLAY such a
valuable item? Or would you just take the CD with the same
song and don't reduce the value of your Kateollection?

All these things are questions, not some sign of deeper knowledge,
but a sign of deeper understanding - noooo, a sign of deeper
curiosity.

Bye,

Uli
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:11:35 -0500
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From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris Williams)
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   That reminds me - when _Sat In Your Lap_ was released, it was an
answer in that weeks crossword puzzle in N.M.E.

   The question? "Kate's fave position..."

                                      Chris Williams 
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 13:38:56 -0500
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From: LAUREN@HARVARDA.HARVARD.EDU (Lauren Caulton)
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Subject:      Kate's music vs. others
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Just to weigh in I continue to find Kate Bush's music incredibly
inventive and original. I've only heard one song by Tori Amos, and
it didn't interest me. And who is/are Happy Rhodes? And Little Earthquakes?
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 01:11:13 -0500
From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
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Gratings, yes, gratings, to all my newfound friends and flamers on
rec.music.gaffa....

I just wanted to wish everyone a Merry/Happy (insert name of holiday you
celebrate this time of year, if any), and declare that my Winter Break
commences at 2 PM on Monday, December 21.  From this date until January 18 I
shall be relaxing at home, putting my feet up, reading up for my computer
theory research project, writing a one-act play for COPA Theatre, spinning
discs and infiltrating airwaves at the radio station, and listening to my
fave female artists (Kate, Tori, Happy, Suzanne, Sarah).

Drewcifer returns in '93...be warned!

Love to all,
Andrew
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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 16:43:30 -0500
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UG>My goal is to read everything KaTe has ever alluded to in her songs.

     Upon seeing the "Cloudbusting" video, I noticed a lot of similarity
     between it and a Stuart Gordon horror movie called "From Beyond,"
     which is based on an H.P. Lovecraft story of the same name.  Perhaps
     Kate and Gordon based their works on the same source material.

     The movie version of "From Beyond" is only so-so (and it has enough
     blood and guts to turn anyone's stomach), but Lovecraft is always
     worth reading for those who want a good chill.  :)
---
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 13:17:33 -0500
From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
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Subject: Re: Tori--What do you really think?
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George Ludwig (fester@parnasus.dell.com) wrote:
: While I'm still not sure about my position on TSW, I must agree that
: my first reaction on listening to US was that the sound quality was
: very muffled. There's like no high end to be found on the record. I'm
: not sure what "novel technique" you're referring to, but I recall
: reading on the liner notes that many of the rythm tracks were
: originally recorded on location in the early 80's. God only knows what
: Peter was using for a deck...nagra? 14-bit Casio DAT? Walkman
: Professional? But I suspect that he used a lot of these ryhtms
: (recorded under less-than-ideal circumstances) and didn't want to make
: them stand out for their lack of quality. Thus, (and this is merely a
: theory) the "subdued" mix of most of the other tracks.

    The lack of high-end I believe is deliberate, and not a result of poor
recording. The mood of the album is dark and cathartic, not joyous, and a
rolled-off high-end helps establish this.


Chris Moran
chris.moran@mincom.oz.au

x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Sat, 19 Dec 1992 01:05:03 EST
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 01:01:58 -0500
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Subject: Re: Sound quality / Peter Gabriel's "Us"
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Drewcifer responds:

>In <9212181217.AA10108@syrinx.umd.edu> jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka) writes:

>What, intelligent critical faculties?

Here, let me help stretch your arm so's to make patting yourself on the 
back a bit easier:  <yank>  <snap>

Oh dear, I seem to've broken your arm.  Now how will you straighten your
halo?

Once again you're confusing subjectivity and objectivity.

>Well, actually, I thought this song was remarkably trite.  Guess it's harder
>than we thought!

You think the lyrics are trite or the music?  You completely ignored my
comment about the music, a fact I find interesting.  Don't you agree that
a large part of the power in any such piece is the synthesis between the
music and lyrics, the sum of which is far greater than the parts?


>Wait a minute.  In order to be sincere you can't care about a wide range of
>issues?

Nope, I didn't say that.  I said that Natalie Merchant spends too much of
_Blind Man's Zoo_ explaining to us just how much She Cares.

>I care about a lot of issues too, and I'm quite sincere about all
>of them.

And yet you've managed to refrain from cataloging them here for us.


>I think that might not be the way you meant to express this.

Nope, I said exactly what I meant.  You took the comment out of the
context of Natalie Merchant and _Blind Man's Zoo_ and applied it globally.

BTW, on a completely different subject, glad to hear you're enjoying
_Warpaint_ so much.  Come join us on Ecto, the Happy Rhodes mailing list.
Send mail to jessica, the listgoddess.  She can be reached at 
ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu  We've got close to 125 subscribers now, and
Ecto is available as loose mail or in digest form.

Jeff

-- 
|Jeffrey C. Burka                | "Show what you are / Be strong, be true  |
|                                |  Time for you to / Be who you are."      |
|jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu            |                         --Happy Rhodes   |
x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:54:38 EST
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:48:48 -0500
From: glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gord Locke)
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Subject: KaTe KomiK (again!)
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	Yet another post regarding the upcoming Kate comic!  Lori Kamus
(no relation to Tori Amos, BTW) has informed me via e-mail that
Revolutionary Comics has changed their snail-mail address.  So if you
want to inquire about Rock 'n' Roll Comics #58 (due out in Feb.), you'd
best contact:

	Revolutionary Comics
	9528 Miramar Road, Suite 213
	San Diego, CA 92126

	Phone: 1(800) 765-2669
	FAX: (619) 530-4808

	I hope the phone area code is correct on this one.  I can e-mail
anyone a promotional blurb I've read about the comic if they want.
-- 
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 glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca | We're 'geers, |   in our hearts"  | RE-USE, 
   Newfoundland, Canada   | Live with it! |    - Kate Bush    | RECYCLE 
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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:43:09 -0500
Subject: Speaking of books....
From: patrickm@netlink.cts.COM (Patrick McKinnion)
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    Speaking of books that Kate has alluded to, can someone get me a copy 
of A Book of Dreams by Peter Reich ???    (Esp. the one with the 
cloudbusting cover.)    I have been going crazy trying to find one in San 
Diego.   I'll be happy to buy or trade, but I want a copy !!!   Thanks.

              Patrick McKinnion    (PatrickM@netlink.cts.com)

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:32:48 -0500
From: lsil!mhost!lsican!smartin@fernwood.mpk.ca.us (Stephen Martin)
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I heard a rumour once that Sarah used to do "My Lagan Love" in concert. Does
anyone have this on tape? And would you be willing to make me a copy?
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:19:05 -0500
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Subject: The Dreaming CreditsFrom: brian.colter@pcb.batpad.lgb.ca.us (Brian
 Colter)
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In <1992Dec18.163645.6055@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik) writes:


>I have Happy Rhodes' _Warpaint_ being held for me at Record Archive, and I'm
>going to pick it up today after my English exam.  Stay tuned for a Drewcifer
>Disc Review, coming your way later this evening!

>Drewcifer
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I got it, right here in my grubby little hands...I'm on "Wrong Century" and
loving every minute so far.  The instrumentation is kind of Laurie Anderson
meets Suzanne Vega circa "99.9F"; the vocals are remarkable--her high end
sounds very early Kate, and her low end is something else entirely...it's
like two different voices.

I'm obviously not ready for a review.  Try me tomorrow, when I'll be
listening to this for the zillionth time with a big smile on my face!

Drewcifer

P.S.  I *like* the nakedness of Tori's songs...just as I like the artful
veils of Kate, and the dark sparseness of Happy's Druid music.  And Sarah's
folky classicism.  They're all wonderful...sigh...sorry.  :)
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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 14:32:06 -0500
From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
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s0499528@let.rug.nl (R. Dijkhuis) writes:

>Maybe this is a FAQ, but:

>Who is Happy Rhodes, what's her music like and where can I get any of her 
>material? I live in the Netherlands, so addresses of shops carrying her 
>works in that country would be preferable, but other places are also welcome.

FAQ heading toward the Netherlands, catch it!

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Vickie                "Fight for the right     "My ears are lucky to hear
vickie@pilot.njin.net    to have monsters" TA    these glorious songs" HR
                                _________
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 08:15:18 -0500
From: v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.)
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In article <DewoVB2w165w@netrun.cts.com>, rhill@netrun.cts.com (ronald hill) writes...
> 
>        Jeff speculated on the nature of the line "You never understood 
>me, you never really tried" in The Big Sky.  My feeling is that this 
>may be "the sky" or "the clouds" saying this, saying that people don't 
>take the time to appreciate these things any more.  I don't have any 
>real "proof" of this, but here's a quote that kind of suggests it: 

Actually, I always thought "the Big Sky" was a song about a hobby or an
obsession.  I get this vision of the movie with Clark Gable, Myrna Loy,
and Spencer Tracy in a movie from 1938, about an airplane pilot called 
"Test Pilot".   I feel this song is about a love that only very few
can appriciate.

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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 11:49:42 -0500
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