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From: dbeedle@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Dave Beedle)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Something about German "
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:58:43 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University

In article <serb.96@polisci.umn.edu> serb@polisci.umn.edu (Scott Erb) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.154922.218@csghsg5a.bitnet> 92640861s@csghsg5a.bitnet writ
es:
>
>>I'm totally astonished about this news-information-system and this highly
>>intelligent conversation. But I've got the slight impression, that most of
>>the "beer conversation"-members like to drink beer but they don't know
>>much about "beer culture". In Germany it is very important to know how
>>to deal with beer, especially with good beer. For example it should always
>>be kept cold.
>
>Very few Americans would argue with you about the fact good beer has to be
>kept cold.

   I would!  Many brews take on a diffent character when near room temperature.
Pale ales, stouts and porters espically, for the most part, get better when
warmer.  Now many "american" beers are barely drinkable ice cold (bud,
miller, coors, etc) but then, you did say we were talking about good beers...

>  It's well known that beer becomes 'skunked' if it has been cold
>and is warmed up (one of the reasons European beers on long journeys via
>ships to the US often taste horrid -- they've been warmed up to much.)

   Actually, the skunkieness comes from exposure to light. Sun light ans
florecent light is especially nasty. It is components in the hop oils which
react to light. Thus the reason for brown beer bottles, the darker glass helps
to filter out the harmfull range of light.  Note that many imported brews are
in green glass bottles.

>>I will continue with the beer-teaching-lessons!
>
>Please do.  But don't be surprised if, despite the emphasis on drinking in
>this group, Americans have an advanced beer culture afterall.

   Most certainly there is a beer culture in America.  I suffered a set back
due to prohibition but is experiencing a rebirth today.


-- 
  Dave Beedle                                    Office of Academic Computing
                                                    Illinois State University
  Internet:  dbeedle@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu                    136A Julian Hall  
  "Relax, don't worry!  Have a homebrew!"                  Normal, IL   61761
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: palane@iastate.edu (Paul A. Lane)
Subject: Re: Twin Cities Micros
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:11:21 GMT

In <1drgrqINN4p@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> x1rbrown@exnet.iastate.edu (Roger Brown) writes:

>I'm sure others closer to the Cities will reply but...

>Micros in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area include:

>Summit Pale Ale, Summit Porter and maybe Summit Winter Ale

GREAT BEER. Summit was the first Pale Ale I tried and is still my favorite.

>James Page beers (maybe 2 kinds available now...).

>MAYBE something from Capital in Wisconsin.

I thought I'd follow up on this one as I used to live in Madison.
The brewery is Capital City Brewery and the beer is Gartenbrau.
The regular and dark are very good beers, but the great one is
Gartenbrau Special. Always work a trip up to Madison.

>These are all fine brews. Summit Porter is extra fine.

True. Oh to be back in Minnesota.

>Roger Brown, x1rbrown@exnet.iastate.edu
>Extension Communications, Iowa State University, Ames Iowa. 

Gee, Roger. We should run down to Old Depot brewery in Adel sometime.

Paul
Dept. of Physics, also ISU
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: twlane@nyx.cs.du.edu ()
Subject: Re: a nice little drop
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 00:13:58 GMT

(Walagamemnon Beckhouse) writes:

>Her in Australia we have a nice little drop called Coopers.  Its brewed
>with all that organic stuff, and has a thick sediment on the bottom.

>Wal Beckhouse
>Beer conoseur
>Kyogle Pub


Coopers is truly a fine beer!

Todd Lane "life is too short to drink bad beer"

Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: micah@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Micah)
Subject: Simpatico is from Iowa
Summary: Good trick, fooling you into believing it's Central or So. American
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:33:48 GMT

	Simpatico, is in fact, brewed in Iowa.  Not imported from somewhere 
else.  It's pretty misleading packaging, and a lot of folks, because of the 
cool bottle (I did it) picked it up to try it.  As far as beer goes, there 
is nothing special about it.


Micah Forbes
micah@titan.ucc.umass.edu
From: plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Twin Cities Micros
Date: 13 Nov 1992 18:15:41 GMT
Organization: Brown University Planetary Geology
NNTP-Posting-Host: pilsner.geo.brown.edu

In article <palane.721674681@pv740b.vincent.iastate.edu> palane@iastate.edu (Paul A. Lane) writes:
>I thought I'd follow up on this one as I used to live in Madison.
>The brewery is Capital City Brewery and the beer is Gartenbrau.
>The regular and dark are very good beers, but the great one is
>Gartenbrau Special. Always work a trip up to Madison.

   I liked the Rathskellar beer best.  It's brewed by Capital expressly
for the UW Memorial Union's Rathskellar.  Unfortunately, they didn't
start brewing it until after I left Madison, so I've only had it
once. :-(
--
Joel Plutchak, Research Programmer/Analyst
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: nikkanen@ntc02.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: Re: Elephant (DK) better than German beers?
Followup-To: re: some german "
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:48:43 GMT

In article <em0wHxm$ra@atlantis.psu.edu>, boltz@chopin.psu.edu (Mark Boltz) writes:
> I'm glad to see someone started the discussion of America's "Beer Culture" and
> the virtues and comparisons of German/European beers to American.  I would
> however, strongly disagree (just IMHO), that the Danish and English beers are
> better than German brews.  The Danish Carlsberg Elephant tastes like Milwaukee
> Best (is this really the best they can do?) compared to some of the better
> German beers like Bitburger (pilsner) or Erdinger (hefe-weizen).  Sure the


	Well, as you say some lines later, one shouldn't really compare strong
	danish lager to german pilsner or weissbier.  And you'll bet it isn't
	the best there is, but as usual, only the mass market products are
	widely exported.  Check out Michael Jackson's "World Guide to Beers",
	he'll tell you more about the subject.

> English have good Ales (one of their fortes), but when it comes to Pilsner or

	Just makes me wonder.. you do know where the word "Pilsner" 
	comes from, don't you?  Then have you ever tasted real Budweiser?
	Germans make excellent pilsners too, but i wouldn't say they're 
	superior before sampling some Czechoslovakian top pilsners like
	Pilsner Urquell or Staropramen. 

> Weiss-bier the Germans are the best.  I'll concede Stouts and Porters to the
> Irish.  Make sure when you compare, too, that you compare similar beers...
> no fair putting something like, say Berliner Kindl up against Guinness Stout
> (two ENTIRELY different styles of brewing and taste).  Happy drinking! :)
> 
> Prost!
	
	Right, but it's sometimes so hard to remember which beer 
	actually was the best one ... B-)

				Cheers!		/Kari
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: kyle@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Kyle Wohlmut)
Subject: Re: Swiss Beer
Followup-To: alt.beer
Organization: Rocking Pig Enterprises
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:45:11 GMT

In article <1dpc0lINNfp5@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
snyderre@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Robert "Rottweiler" Snyder) writes:
>Howdy everyone, I've got a real quick querry for everyone.  When I was  
>visting Europe a bit a go, I took a short stop in Switzerland.  While  
>there I drank this one beer that was really great.  My problem is that I  
>cannot remember the name of it.  What I think I remember about it was that  
>it had a picture (I think) of a Golden Grizley Bear on the label, and I  
>think it was brewed in Switzerland.  Any help would be appreciated, along  
>with if it's exported or not.  Many thanks!!!
> 

I hope you're not thinking of Lowenbrau Dark brewed in Switzerland
(yes, they do, and for some reason they make a big deal out of it
too).  But the label matches that description.  Bat piss by any other
name...

P.S. Not to sound pedantic or anything, but it's 'query' and 'Grizzly.'

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From: jornaa@fdh.hsf.no (Joern Aasland)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re:Elephant(DK) better than..?
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:56:29 GMT
Reply-To: jornaa@fdh.hsf.no
Organization: Finnmark College



Hello!

I just want to tell you that I'm strongly oposed to
compare different kinds of beer. There are different  
beers to different occasions. There are beers to
food, and there are beer for drinking.(a lot). 
There are beers for ladyes, and there are beers 
for men. There are beers for sissies, and there are 
also beers for drivers. I think that the Carlsberg 
Elephant beer is rater good, but i wouldn't recomend 
it for partying.(We only drink beer at partys, ofcourse!!)    

SKAAL: Joern.


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Organization: Johannes Kepler University Linz - Computing Center
Date: Friday, 6 Nov 1992 17:09:19 CET
From: <K3023E2@ALIJKU11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: German Beers?

Hello folks...
...
There are many postings around here about the good taste of German Beers..
Well, I come from a German-Speaking Area (South Tyrol, Italy) and agree that
German Beers are fairly good. You enjoy drinking them.
....
BUT, *I* think that Danish *and* English Beers are simply better. Stronger,
fuller taste, nicer colour, less foam... What do you want more...
Some English Bitters or Danish Beers (Elephant, Ceres...) are much better than
any German beer...
...
BTW, I hate Weizen Bier... Maybe my taste isn't too normal?
...
Regards, Werner. (At present) at Jk University Linz, Austria.
...
BTW Nr.2...: Don't Panic... Drink (Beer).
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: danco@titan.ucc.umass.edu (DANIEL F COHEN)
Subject: Re: Beer Songs
Keywords: Beer Songs
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:16:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.101321.6021@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dspence@nyx.cs.du.edu (David Spence) writes:
>
>I was wondering if you could send me the dirtiest beer or even
>rugby songs(i know this is the wrong group for rugby songs but tuff shit)
>
>Dave Spence(zcaph48@ucl.ac.uk)
>

Anyone who questions the connection between beer and rugby probably doesn't
limp in the morning.


--Dan//no longer a hooker
Xref: sparky alt.beer:6708 rec.crafts.brewing:6633
From: ulick@bernini.helios.nd.edu (Ulick Stafford)
Newsgroups: alt.beer,rec.crafts.brewing
Subject: Brewpubs, etc. in London, Ontario
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:44:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov6.174440.2830
Distribution: na
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame

I'll be at a conference in London next week, and would like to know if 
there are any brewpubs, or other pubs not to be missed in town.  A Canadian
friend informs me that there is a University there where all the 'beautiful'
people go, so I am guessing that there are places worth visiting (my friend
gradated from Waterloo, so don't flame me over this comment :-).  All I
know about Western is that it has a good Physical Chemistry dept.)


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 
+ 'There was a  master come unto the earth, + Ulick Stafford, PP-ASEL       +
+    born in the holy land of Indiana,      + Dept of Chemical Engineering, +
+ in the mystical hills east of Fort Wayne'.+ Notre Dame, IN 46556          +
+      B'fhearr liom bheith ag eitilt.      +    ulick@bach.helios.nd.edu   +
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: lopi@di.unipi.it (Lopi)
Subject: Re: Beer Bottles
Organization: Dipartimento di Informatica, Universita' di Pisa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:43:46 GMT

<K3023E2@ALIJKU11.BITNET> writes:

>Hello Folks.

>At present I'm collecting (empty) beer bottles from all over the World.
>I've got a few hundred but am still missing a lot from U.K.
>...
>I wonder if someone of you could give me a list or something of valuable
>(english & scott) beer bottles. That means nice to look at AND nice to taste|
>...
>BTW, someone collecting beer bottles too?
>...
>Regards, Werner at JK. University Linz, Austria.

I'm collecting beer bottles too,
I've only a few bottles now, but I hope to increase my collection..
I've the following bottles:

	Adelscott		F
	Lutece			F
	Biere du demon		F
	Biere du desert		F
	Ceres			Dk
	Elephant		Dk
	Bjorne Beer		Dk
	Giraf			Dk
	Chimay			B
	Leffe veille cuvee	B
	Leffe radieuse		B
	Eku 28			D
	Trompe la mort		D
	Becks			D
	BullDog			Uk
	John Labatt		UK
	Corona			Mex
	Sol			Mex
	Guinnes			Irl
	Coronator		D
	Bud			USA
	Heineken		NL

These are the beers that I can easily find in Italy, but I will look for others.

Fabio.
From: sg@monsoon.com (Sunil Gupta)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 11:32:53 EST
Organization: Monsoon Software, Inc.

kpapai@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Ken Papai) writes:

> I agree. Celebration Ale is one of my fave beers.  It is not a new beer,
> but one that Sierra Nevada begins brewing around Oct 5.  They brew it for
> 2 to 3 months.  Same time every year.  I believe it is the only beer
> that S.N. dry hops.  I bought a case of it 2 days ago for $28.00.  Well

Not to be querulous or obstreperous, but isn't SNPA dry-hopped? I
thought that was the only way to get those wonderful, volatile esters
in the bouquet.

Sunil Gupta
Monsoon Software, Inc.
sg@monsoon.com
From: dwv@cs.brown.edu (David W. Vorbrich)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Beer Bottles
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:40:29 GMT
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
NNTP-Posting-Host: hector.cs.brown.edu

In article <92310.152221K3023E2@ALIJKU11.BITNET>, <K3023E2@ALIJKU11.BITNET> writes:
|> Hello Folks.
|> 
|> BTW, someone collecting beer bottles too?

Yes, I have a meager collection (~80 bottles), and I'm sure many other
people do as well.  I recently graduated from college, and had to abandon
our 300 bottle collection when I moved out :(

You post, however, reminds me of a quote I saw on this group a few weeks
ago... something like "I drink beer.  I don't collect cute little bottles."
I actually thought this was quite funny and apt.  I treat my collection as
a diary of the beers I've had.  I can always look through the collection to
remind me of what I liked and didn't.  This comes in handy when recommending
beers to friends.  I also like my collection because it almost always leads
my guests to start a conversation about beers.  They see the collection, make
a comment on a bottle, and I either start describing the beer, or perhaps
a story about the time when I had it.  I have not, however, caved in to the
point where I purchase beers based on their bottles.  Nor do I avoid buying
beers because "I already have that one."  Collecting them is fun, but beer is
made for consumption!

I went to the Brickskeller (sp?) in D.C. this past weekend, and on the back
of their menu is a statement to the effect:  "We understand that many people
collect bottles, but people come here to enjoy themselves.  Please refrain
from bothering other tables to ask them for their bottles."  I guess they've
encountered this many times to put it in print!

On an entirely different topic, another quote similar to the one mentioned
above that I've always liked is:

"Real men don't count, they just drink."  [said when people start comparing
how many beers more they've had than someone else, or asking someone how
many they've had already]

Of course, that should now be changed to _people_ , but this is an actual
quote made about 8 years ago by a friend.

-- 
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From: GRANTH@brownvm.brown.edu (Grant Hogarth)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: "33", What's it mean?
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 17:15:58 EST
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: brownvm.brown.edu
Keywords: Eurobeers
News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta

Actually the "33" is just an attempt to get some
European cachet---viz French "Trente-trois" beer. :-)
From: goddard@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Bart E. Goddard)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Colorado Civil Rights PLEASE READ!
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:20:04 GMT
Reply-To: goddard@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Bart E. Goddard)
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
NNTP-Posting-Host: g214-1.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <1992Nov12.164842.27931@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>  
afd@bellcore.com (Alex F. Dietz) writes:
> In article 1dtnksINNorm@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu,  
goddard@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Bart E. Goddard) writes:
> >In article <11NOV199214071386@zeus.tamu.edu> dbn7350@zeus.tamu.edu  
> >(NASH, DAVID BENNETT III) writes:
> >> Some of you may have known about the anti-gay ammendment in 
> >> Colorado that passed.  
> >> 
> >> 3. Boycott Colorado-made products (the most common of which are
> >>    probably meat and beer) and Colorado tourism (yes, this means  
> >skiing).
> >>
> >
> >I'll be damned, there _IS_ a reason to drink Coors.
> >
> >Bart
> 
> You're damned alright.
> 
> -A Dietz
> 

Ooooo! Hate mail from an "ideaphobe"!  Condemning me to hell for my my  
beliefs.  Tsk Tsk. Looks like you should take a sensitivity course.

By the way, since this is alt.beer, I found a place here in Terre Haute
Indiana (The beer-hub of the world -- NOT!) that carries SPATEN.
I picked up a six-pack of Oktoberfestbier (which surrived the
ocean crossing pretty well) at, of all places, OSCO DRUG.  If I  
actually do manage to choke down a Coors after this, it should  
certainly prove my sincerity.
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From: zedaker@next06wor.wam.umd.edu (Pamela Marie Weller)
Subject: Re: hy.valtsika.kurssi
Keywords: Huh?
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:05:25 GMT



In article <vpkarvinen.2@katk.Helsinki.FI> vpkarvinen@katk.Helsinki.FI  
(KARVINEN VELI-PEKKA) writes:
> Tsemppi{ vaan kaikille, 
> otetaan bissee kun treffataan.
> WPC|

Vaaahhhhtttt???
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: buccidv@expert.cc.purdue.edu (david bucci)
Subject: What to drink in Chicago
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:38:35 GMT

If you are in Chicago or are planning to visit:

GO TO GOOSE ISLAND BREWERY !!

Its a small microbrewery in Chicago I think at  1400 Clyborn.
The building it is in is an old refurbished factory.
pretty cool place.

I recommend:

1) oatmeal stout
2) special brown ale
3) there are many more, just try them all. You can order a sampler of six in
   small servings.

.and the food is great too!
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 01:09:22 EST
From: <JWL114@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject:       beer formula

 Requesting a recipe for a good ol' down knock you
on your ass kind of beer.
Organization: Johannes Kepler University Linz - Computing Center
Date: Thursday, 12 Nov 1992 13:57:51 CET
From: <K3023E2@ALIJKU11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Elephant (DK) better than German beers?
 <1992Nov10.164843.1@ntc02.tele.nokia.fi>

Hello Folks.
...
Great someone mentioned Budweiser| (THE TSCHECH ONE|)
I think it's great. Not to compare with the american Budweiser, which is
like water I think. Try It| Even it's not easy to find beyond Austria &
Tschechoslovakia I guess...
...
BTW. I think (in general) that red beers are better than any (so called)
pilsner...
...
Try Budweiser.
Regards, Werner, at JK Univerity Linz, Austria   (But at home in Italy)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: morrison@tegra.com (Allan Morrison)
Subject: Re: What to drink in Chicago
Organization: Tegra-Varityper, Inc. Billerica, MA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:55:56 GMT

Also, there is a great poolhall upstairs in the same building
From: okes@essex.ac.uk (Simon Oke)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Bitter Beer
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:19:59 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Essex, UK.
In-reply-to: plarkin@iphase.com's message of 4 Nov 92 16:22:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.102219@iphase.com> plarkin@iphase.com (Patrick Larkin) writes:
| In article <1992Oct26.175817.4847@brtph560.bnr.ca>, trice@bnr.ca (Tony Rice P885) writes:
|
| *I* first got turned onto Guinness when in the British Isles.... Its
|smoother there than here, and ON TAP in US is smoother than
|bottles....  It's definatly not the beer for "just a quick one".  You
|must not be in a hurry and without something to munch.

Hmmm. I have to disagree here. I _can_ drink Guinness as 'a quick one'.
I find that it goes down a lot easier than most other beers, as other beers
tend to have too much gas in them for my taste. On the other hand, when it
has gone down I usually start wishing that I had had something different.


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