From: kamphau@oktext.sbc.com (Mark Kamphaus)
Subject: Re: Logic and God (was: Young earth creationist logic NOT!)
Followup-To: talk.origins
Reply-To: kamphau@oktext.UUCP (Mark Kamphaus)
Organization: Southwestern Bell
Distribution: world,local
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 14:50:24 GMT

In article <1297@tecsun1.etl.army.mil> riggs@descartes.tec.army.mil (Bill Riggs) writes:
>	One of our differences lies in the question of what concepts 
>are separable and which are not. Your are quite correct that the 
>question was deconstructionist by design. Since the Bible and 
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>evolutionary biology are at odds, something has to give somewhere.

No, No, NO!!!  The Bible and evolutionary biology *DO NOT DISAGREE*.

You, Mr. Riggs believe a certain *INTERPRETATION* of the Bible that
disagrees with evolutionary biology.  Instead of questioning the
overwhelming evidence that supports evolution, why don't you
look at the basis of your interpretation?  I think that you may
be surprised that very little of creation science is scripturally
based.  [ I know that they claim they are, and offer many "proof-
texts" to sound like it, but any causual study will show they aren't.]

Here is something for you to think about.  Saturday morning you get
a knock on your door.  There is a young man with a Bible standing
there.  "Sir," he says, "I'm here to talk with you about your salvation.
Did you know that if you drive a car, you are going to go to hell.
It says right here in the story of Elijah that he was taken to
heaven in a *chariot*.  That means that chariots -not cars-
are the designated heavenly vehicles.  You do believe the
Bible, don't you?"
"But cars weren't around back then" you reply.
"Thats because they are the work of the devil along with
other modern technology.  Look at the pollution cars
produce, and the way oil spills have destroyed the
environment.  If you drive a car, you support war. Look
at Iraq/Kuwait.  Also it means that you hate your family
because you aren't concerned about leaving a world for
your childern to live in.  Chariots on the otherhand,
are pulled by horses.  Their by-products are fully
biodegradable.  Here look at our brochure."
You open the brochure and there is a comparison.

Car:			Chariot:
Man uses		God uses
destroys the earth-	fertilizes 
pollutes
destroys family		restores family
not mentioned in Bible  Mentioned in Bible X times
Developed by Satan	Developed by God
etc...			etc...

"How do you know cars were developed by Satan?"
"Because," he explains, "Its in the Bible."
"I thought your brochure said that 'car' wasn't
in the Bible."
"It isn't, but the Bible does say that the Satan
is the father of all lies.  And it also calls him
'the destroyer.'  That means that was behind the
developement."

"I'm sorry," you finally say, "but I don't agree
with you.  I don't think the Bible means that."

"Are you calling God a liar.  That is what it means
to disagree with the Bible. That sin can't be
forgiven, you know.  Maybe you should pray to have
the faith to believe *in what I just told you*.
It is what the Bible says."

You shake your head as you close the door and wish
him a "nice" day.  You login and start reading
the news.  An article catches your eye.
"The Bible and evolutionary biology are at odds"
you type....

THINK ABOUT IT!

Have a nice day.


mark