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From: mfiguero@lonestar.utsa.edu (Miguel . Figueroa)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Mexican League (week 34)
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:21:44 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.soccer
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio


                            Week 34
                            =======
        U.N.A.M...............2   MORELIA..................1
        MONTERREY.............3   COBRAS...................1
        U. DE G...............1   CRUZ AZUL................2
        VERACRUZ..............3   PUEBLA...................1
        ATLANTE...............1   AMERICA..................0
        NECAXA................2   U.A.G....................1
        GUADALAJARA...........2   QUERETARO................0
        SANTOS................1   U.A.T....................0
        TOLUCA................3   U.N.L....................0
        LEON..................3   ATLAS....................0

                            STANDINGS
                            =========
    TEAM                 GP    W     T     L     GF     GA      PTS.    DIF.
    ====                 ==   ===   ===   ===    ==     ==      ====    ====

GROUP 1

  *U.N.A.M.              34    15    12     7    49     33       42     + 16
   VERACRUZ              34    15     7    12    46     38       37     +  8
   ATLAS                 34     8    16    10    33     33       32        0
   U.A.G.                34     8    12    14    33     42       28     -  9
   COBRAS                34     5    10    19    29     45       20     - 17

GROUP 2

   GUADALAJARA           34    12    16     6    35     26       40     +  9
   U.A.T.                34    33    10    11    41     36       36     +  5
   PUEBLA                34    12    12    10    37     38       36     -  1
   MONTERREY             34     9    13    12    36     47       31     -  9
   QUERETARO             34     7    13    14    30     45       26     - 15

GROUP 3

   NECAXA                34    13    13     8    56     41       39     + 15
   LEON                  34    13    13     8    41     35       39     +  6
   CRUZ AZUL             34    13    12     9    52     47       38     +  5
   SANTOS                34    11    10    13    38     42       32     -  4
   TOLUCA                34     9    12    13    40     47       30     -  7

GROUP 4

  *ATLANTE               34    18    11     5    61     40       47     + 21
   AMERICA               34    12    13     9    40     40       37        0
   MORELIA               34    10    13    11    37     38       33     -  1
   U.N.L.                34    12     9    13    45     36       33     -  1
   U. DE G.              34     7    10    17    33     51       24     - 18

 *Clinched a playoff berth

==============================================================================

               SCORING (UPDATED UNTIL 34TH WEEK)
               =================================
               LUIS GARCIA (U.N.A.M.).........23
               DANIEL GUZMAN (ATLANTE)........19
               ALL OTHERS ????????



                          Miguel Figueroa
From: scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Rangers 6 Celtic 1
Keywords: yet another victory over them
Date: 13 Apr 92 12:59:03 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, SCOTLAND.

This time it was the ladies catering staff from both sides. Doesn't matter
though, they got gubbed.
From: twolf@cs.utah.edu (Tom Wolf)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Possible World Cup Attendance
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:36:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: hellgate.1992Apr7.133659.22207
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
Originator: twolf@cs.utah.edu

In response to the person who stated that once the US team drops out of the
tournement, attendance will suffer, I beg to differ. Personally, I don't
think this person has ever been to a soccer game in the US. Basically, the
US is such a culturely diverse place that in almost every match I have been
to, when an non-US team is competing against an American team, the non-US
team draws more spectators. We have large groups of immegrants from just about
every nation. As an example, I have heard that there are more Irishmen in
the US, than there are in Ireland. There are over 2 million Iranians and
probably 10-15 million people from Mexico, Central, & South America in
California alone. These people turn out in droves when their countries come
to play. It seems most US fans will not support US teams, but will rabidly
support any team from their home country. In San Jose, the best attended
games for the Earthquakes (while they were in existance) were not the league
games, but the exhibition games against teams from Mexico & South America.

At the 1984 Olympics, soccer drew more spectators than any other Olympic sport
(though it rarely was televised). At attendance records were being broken just
about every match. First 75,000 at Stanford, then 78,000 at the Rose Bowl,
followed by 80,000 at Stanford, most of the matches were not for the US team.
After the US dropped out, attendance continued to climb. 85,000 at the Rose
Bowl. Then at the last match at Stanford, (Italy versus Chile, I believe)
over 90,000 of us watched the game. Most claimed to be Italian or Chilean.
Finally, the final drew in the neighborhood of 100,000 fans.

Stanford only had the US team once. It was one of the few games that didn't
set records for attendance. Don't expect the television viewing public to
draw well in the US, but the games will be packed.

Personnally, I think the people that are claiming the CUP will be a
attendance disaster either don't know the US soccer scene or are bitter
that their country didn't get the CUP.


Tom
From: james@HISOFT.COM (James C. Armstrong)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: PREDICTION 1994: WHO WILL WIN?
Date: 17 Apr 92 14:40:55 GMT

-> Recall that Cristoforo Colombo discover one continent, even without realizing
-> it.

About 500 years ago, all he discovered was an island.  I'm not sure he
found the continent in his later voyages...

Besides, I think a group of nomadic tribesmen a few millenia back
really deserve the credit for getting here first...
From: cedars@mtliban.Corp.Sun.COM ( Fixed Assets Accounting )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: manchester united
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:56:39 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mtliban.corp.sun.com

This is for those of you who lives within the British Empire... 

As you might know, we don't get enough football news in the 
new world; so we will appreciate any news especially, news about
Manchester United and their  run for the Championship.  Please do
keep us informed and thanks to all who are just doing that.

Busby babes
From: lah014@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Richard Marshall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Man City are Man U Lovers
Date: 6 Apr 92 11:10:03 GMT
Organization: abUSENET, Coventry Polytechnic, Coventry, UK

In article <1992Apr6.091420.23799@tcom.stc.co.uk> tim@tcom.stc.co.uk (Tim Kennedy) writes:
>Last Saturday proved what I would never have believed- Man
>City are deep lovers of Man United.  They battered Leeds
>4-0 at Maine Rd thereby depriving the pride of Yorkshire
>of the critical points.
>
>They had gone a month without scoring a goal then play out
>of their skins to beat Leeds who were not playing badly at
>all.  The fact is Peter Reid and his boys are desparate to
>help the Red Filth win the title and are going to lose to
>them gracefully on Tuesday night to prove this yet again.
>
I think City may do a QPR and score 4 again. What was the result at Maine Road
a couple of years ago (5-1 was it ?!)

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From: peterw@spider.co.uk (Peter Woodhouse)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: USA WORLD CUP AND english supremecy, (ha ha ha)
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:35:54 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <1992Apr8.061043.768@leland.Stanford.EDU> orhan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Orhan Mehmet Arsel) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.192535.2585@oakhill.sps.mot.com> asim@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Asim Omair) writes:
>
>>you want to talk about Liverpool, then look at their European record from the
>>late '70s till '85 (when they were banned from Europe). I think that one of
>>the main reasons that English team are not doing well in the European
>>competitions is that there is a restriction on the number of foreign players
>                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>and hence some of the teams had to do without their regular players. Previously,
>>there was no restriction on players from Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales, but
>>now these players are included in the foreign category and if you look at the
>>Liverpool lineup you will see that they have a lot of players from the above
>>countries. Similarly, Manchester United had to rest their goalkeeper (I cannot
>>spell his name) because of this restriction.
>
>I do not think that the restriction on the number of foreign players 
>should be brought up as an excuse. Almost every national league in Europe
>has similar restrictions (the number of foreign players allowed in many
>countries is three, although there may be exceptions to this. Any comments
>or confirmations are welcome...) After all, teams from Northern Irland,
>Wales, and Scotland compete in the cups seperately and their national
>teams take part in the tournaments (European Championship, World Cup)
>seperately, thus it is only fair that their players are treated as
>foreign players in England.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Orhan

There is a difference thought between the British situation and the other
Euro. countries.  The leagues of some countries (specifically Italy) only
allow the teams to have X foreign players (in Italy it's 3 I think).  So when
UEFA brought in the foreign player rule, then it had no effect on them.  
The leagues here have no such restrictions on them so when the rule was brought
in it had a much larger effect.  Also, the movement between England/Scotland/
Wales is much greater than between European countires as we are one nation.  
Wales don't have their own league for example, so all Welsh born players strive
to play for the big English clubs (Liverpool/Man U/Arsenal etc).

In conclusion, I think the restriction has had an effect but it is not the
sole reason for below standard performances in Europe.  I feel the performances
will improve in the next few years.

Peter

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From: meir@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (Yigal Meir)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Football at the movies etc.
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:03:12 GMT
Reply-To: meir@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu.UUCP (Yigal Meir)
Organization: UCSB Physics Department

None of the people who came up with several films mentioned the 
 excellent "Gregory's Girl". Although not entirely a football film
 this Brian Forsyth (sp ?) film portraits the efforts of a young
 guy to attract the attention of a girl who is the star of the 
 local football team (remember, this takes place in Scotland,
 where football is not a girls' sport). Anyway, I recommend it
 very highly.

--Yigal Meir, UCSB
From: khoub-s@cs.Buffalo.EDU (Siamak Khoubyari)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: World Cup 94 - Shirts
Date: 10 Apr 92 01:36:21 GMT
Reply-To: khoub-s@cs.buffalo.edu
Organization: SUNY at Buffalo, Computer Science / CEDAR
Originator: khoub-s@sirius.cs.buffalo.edu


In article <JVawiB9w164w@banana.ithaca.ny.us>, henning@banana.ithaca.ny.us (Henning Pape-Santos) writes:
|> Seriously, is there any problem with the described shirts? I would 
|> like it if players wore their names on the back. (Granted, I do 
|> not know all the players likely to appear in the WC just by 
|> looking at them. Do you? then more power to you, but give us 
|> ignoramuses a break.)

I think you have a good point here.  This change could have the benifit 
of helping to promote the sport in the US.  It may help to create soccer
heros (for a change!)  People will learn the name of the stars, and can
refer to them by name, rather than "that guy on the xxxxx team".

-- Siamak

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From: pino@envmsa.eas.asu.edu (Anthony)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Brazil: Can they be champions again?
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:08:00 GMT
Organization: Arizona State University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <slpkkINNcb9@agate.berkeley.edu>, 160955r@garnet.berkeley.edu writes...
>>   British players are only average at best.  
> 
>Whoa, let's take it easy here! Those islands have produced a large crop
>of stupendous players, staring with Dennis Law, Booby Moore, Bobby Charlton,
>Alan Ball, and ending with Platt and Gascoigne. And how about: Toshack, Rush,
>Whiteside, Trevor Francis, Keegan, Souness, Strachan, Banks, etc.etc. In my
>opinion they are the only who can compete with Brazil when it comes to 
>league density of excellent players. True, they also have what Brazil never
>managed to amass: brutish and primitive too-tall fullbacks..
>
   Those players do not belong to the same generation, and in my opinion,
Gascoigne will never reproduce his world cup form again..

> 
>>   Germany on the other hand is a very good tournament team.  
> 
>Absolutely correct. They can also be deadly boring at times and utterly ineffect
>ual at other times (remember the game against Colombia? It ultimately turned out
>to be fun since El Loco Higuita gave us all great entartainment later on against
>Cameroon) However, you can not mention "good tournament teams" without bringing
>Argentina into the picture...
> 
   I personally believe that Germany purposely gave Columbia the draw so that
they could advance as one of the 4 3rd place teams.  After all Germany
had already secured the no. 1 spot in their group and it was possible then
to edge out either England or Holland from the second round.  When Pittbarski
put Germany one up before the end I had a feeling that Germany would then
quickly allow Columbia to score one back to tie it and my hunch was proven
to be correct one minute later...don't you think Germany gave the Columbian
scorer just too much room?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: asim@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Asim Omair)
Subject: Re: MAN U or LEEDS?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin Tx.
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:51:08 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.193315.13856@news.cs.brandeis.edu> st912880@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>I would appreciate it if someone could provide the following information:
>The remaining matches (opponents and dates) for both Man U and Leeds.
>Who has the easier/harder task of winning the championship?
>Is it Man or Leeds?
>Or could it be Sheffield Wednesday?
>Please give OBJECTIVE answers. 
>JTKE   
>
Right now, the top of the English 1st division table is as follows:
		   P  W  D  L  F  A PTS
 1 Leeds United   38 19 15  4 68 35 72
 2 Man United     36 19 14  3 57 26 71
 3 Sheffield Wed  38 19 10  9 58 48 67
 4 Arsenal        38 17 13  8 70 43 64

Note. This does not include Man. United vs Southampton game, which was supposed
      to played yesterday.
The remaining fixtures of Manchester United and Leeds United are:
18th April-    Liverpool    ( 5th) vs Leeds United  ( 1st)
	       Luton Town   (20th) vs Man. United   ( 2nd)
20th April-    Leeds United ( 1st) vs Coventry City (19th)
	       Man. United  ( 2nd) vs Nott'm Forest ( 9th)
22nd April-    West Ham Utd (22nd) vs Man. United   ( 2nd)
25th April-    Liverpool    ( 5th) vs Man. United   ( 2nd)
	       Sheffield U. (10th) vs Leeds United  ( 1st)
2nd May   -    Leeds United ( 1st) vs Norwich City  (17th)
	       Man. United  ( 2nd) vs Tottenham H.  (13th)

Current league positions are given in brackets (again the games played on the
16th are not included). I don't think that Sheffield Wednesday has a chance of
winning the league, unless both Man. United and Leeds United crumble.
The remaining matches are quite similar but Man. United have two games in hand
and are only 1 point behind, so I believe (and hope) that Man. United should win
the league, for which I have been waiting for a long long time.
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From: S.W.Camber@cm.cf.ac.uk (Steve Camber)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Email World Cup Rules and Details
Date: 9 Apr 92 12:41:34 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, Wales, UK.
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway


	THe Play by Email world cup arose as an idea when I had negative reply
to other PBM games that were detailed on this newsgroup and others. Basically
I am using the framework of the computer game "Jackie Charltons WC Manager" or
94 for short, to play the game. 94 is a shareware-to-be game that I am writing
on the Atari St using Stos Basic. 
	The idea of the game is to manage Rep Ireland (shareware version) or
any team in the world (Registered version) to qualify fo and compete in
USA '94.
	THe algorithm that I used for calculating the scorelines based on a
standard setup for G D M and F,all of which are extrapolated using a random
seed from the Uefa seeding for the team, is a very accurate predictor of
results, and the use of it during WC 90 and Euro 88 involved me winning rather
a lot of money at the bookies, but that is another story. 

	For interest, to test the algorithm, I have asked people to nominate
a team to 'manage' for a dry run of the competition. Basically instead of the
random seeding process I am asking you to distribute the points between
G M D and F. The way the points are distributed not only reflects the skill
of the players (as in common management sims) but also the style of play,
so a good distribution can produce a "Double Whammy" effect of say a stron midfield and an aggressive team, etc etc.

	THe previous posting nominated all the people to distribute points for their teams. Everybody gets 300 points to distribute amongst their 4 posts.
A complete run of the qualification tournament wilkl be run and the 24 teams
who qualify for USA 94 shall be found. From there, the competition enters its' ssecond phase, where people can pick a team to manage during the finals.
	This time, the management shall be from match to match to allow greater
flexibility, and because there are less matches, it means less Email!!!

	Teams which have been nominated may recieve a bias to allow them to 
qualify for the finals, but they will recieve none afterwards. That bias shall
be to lift them 2 points upwards in the seeding stakes (affecting the algorithm)so teams like Luxembourg will have a better chance against tough opposition.
However, a team like Malaysia, who do not share tough opposition will only be
lifted 0.5 or 1 points.

	The people named in the previous listing may mail me in the next week
distributing their points as mentioned above. Results of the qualification
will be posted about 1 week *after* I have recieved *all* replies. 

	Enjoy the competition!

	Laurence guest of Steve (scmswc@uk.ac.cf.cm)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,soc.culture.bulgaria
From: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans)
Subject: Bulgaria Football Results round 23
Organization: RISC, J.K. University, Linz; Austria
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 07:33:34 GMT

Bulgaria 
========
Round 23 (April 11)
Lokomotiv Plovdiv        1-1 CSKA Sofia
Beroe Stara Zagora       2-1 Levski Sofia
Lokomotiv GO             2-1 Sliven
Hebar Pazardzhik         1-1 Pirin Blagoevgrad
Minyor Pernik            1-0 Chernomoretz Bourgas
Slavia Sofia             0-0 Botev Plovdiv
Yantra Gabrovo           1-1 Etar Veliko Tarnovo
Lokomotiv Sofia          3-0 Dobrudzha Dobritch

Table:
 1.CSKA Sofia                23 52-19 35 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
 2.Levski Sofia              23 39-14 33 
 3.Botev Plovdiv             23 36-19 29
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
 4.Etar Veliko Tarnovo       23 27-13 28
 5.Lokomotiv Plovdiv         23 27-16 27
 6.Lokomotiv Sofia           23 29-28 23
 7.Sliven                    23 30-34 23
 8.Beroe Stara Zagora        23 22-26 23 
 9.Slavia Sofia              23 26-24 21
10.Yantra Gabrovo            23 18-25 21
11.Lok. Gorna Oryahovitsa    23 18-27 21
12.Pirin Blagoevgrad         23 16-25 19
13.Chernomoretz Bourgas      23 20-33 18
14.Dobrudzha Dobritch        23 22-36 17
-----------------------------------------
15.Hebar Pazardzhik          23 14-29 16
16.Minyor Pernik             23 11-39 14


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From: timh@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Timothy James Hatfield)
Subject: Re: USA WORLD CUP AND english supremecy, (ha ha ha)
Organization: Uni Computing Service, Uni of Sydney, Australia
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 11:26:50 GMT

In article <12757206@um.cc.umich.edu> BRIAN.JEFFREY.COOK@UM.CC.UMICH.EDU writes:
> 
>i think you are missing a key word when it comes to soccer in the world
>cup.  WORLD!!!!  i.e. international.  the world doesn't revolve around
>england any more.  that sort of stopped after the second world war.

Sorry, but an American telling an Englishman to "chill out, think
'international', as the world doesn't revolve around England anymore" absolutely
*REEKS* of hypocricy. Most Americans don't seem to realise that there is
actually a whole world outside of their own country !!

As for WC '94, I don't think that it will at all be a disaster staging it in
the US. Even if media coverage and national attention there do not increase
from their current levels, foreign media and attendance will guarantee its
success. After all, the less Americans who go to the games, the more tickets
for the rest of us !!

See you later, FOOTBALL lovers ...