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From: h.c.j.hilberink@research.ptt.nl (Bert Hilberink)
Subject: Shops in the Washington D.C. area.
Organization: PTT Research, Dr. Neher Laboratories
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:57:29 GMT

Hi,

I read this newsgroup since last week. This is the first time I
use it in an interactive way.

Tomorrow I will leave for Washington D.C. for a business trip of
6 days. Luckily I have enough time to have a look around, so a visit
to the NASM is high on my priority list. What I don't have are
addresses of good, nice modelshops and bookshops in the Washington D.C.
and Baltimore area. My main interest is aviation, all scales, WWI to
present.

Many thanks in advance,

Bert Hilberink.

Tel:    +31703323741
E-mail: H.C.J.Hilberink@research.ptt.nl
From: unglenie@ford.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J Unglenieks)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Re: Radio Controled Models
Date: 17 Aug 92 00:01:38 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Aug15.201341.11290@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Douglas.R.Beekman@dartmouth.edu (Douglas R. Beekman) writes:
>I don't know if anyone in the group deals with R/C models, so if no one
>does just desregard this posting. I would like to find out more about
>R/C helicopters. What is a good brand for a beginner? Is a used heli a
>viable option, if so what can I expect to pay for a used heli? I'll
>stop here for now, but I would like to correspond with someone who
>knows about the hobby.
>Thank you.
>Doug

Try reading  rec.models.rc  for that info.

Rob U, from experience.... rc helis are tooooooooo expensive period

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From: Douglas.R.Beekman@dartmouth.edu (Douglas R. Beekman)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Radio Controled Models
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:13:41 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

I don't know if anyone in the group deals with R/C models, so if no one
does just desregard this posting. I would like to find out more about
R/C helicopters. What is a good brand for a beginner? Is a used heli a
viable option, if so what can I expect to pay for a used heli? I'll
stop here for now, but I would like to correspond with someone who
knows about the hobby.
Thank you.
Doug
From: mikey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Strider)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Aircraft model kits for sale....
Date: 17 Aug 92 00:26:42 GMT
Followup-To: sender
Distribution: tx
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

I have finally decided that I will not have time in the future to work
on any of the many model aircraft kits I own, so I have decided to sell
them.  I have approximately a dozen different kits, mostly modern fighter
jets (F-4, F14, F-15, F-16, F-18, F-20), and some WWII fighters and a
few miscellaneous plane kits (F4U Corsair, P-51, P-40, SR-71).  Most are
1/48 scale, a few are 1/72.

If you think you might be interested, send me some email and I will send
you a complete list.  All kits are like new; the only thing missing is
the cellophane wrapper off the box.  Prices will probably be $5-$7 each,
depending on the size, but prices are negotiable.  If interested, send
me email.

Thanks,
Mike Ruff

Newsgroups: alt.models
From: rray@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Randy J. Ray)
Subject: Images of Models (was Re: Any Scale Auto Magazine Subscribers Out There ??)
Organization: US WEST Communications, Inc. -- Denver, CO
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:21:41 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.162741.3291@fang.att.com>, agwiii@fang.att.com (Grayson Walker (660-7949)(12/92)) writes:
> 3. Post a GIF of your completed model.

Now there's a thought! A good way to discuss each others' work, even! Of
course, some limits might should be drawn, to keep from flooding the net. Not
that we've ever been in danger of doing so... :-) Perhaps an effort to not
make the GIFs too large, so that they do not take much space... scanned so that
the image is itself about the size of a 3x5" 35mm print? Anyone with color
scanner and software, for those of us without?

Randy
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Newsgroups: alt.models
From: wilson@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (David Wilson)
Subject: Re: Any Scale Auto Magazine Subscribers Out There ??
Keywords: I need articles from back issues please
Organization: Schlumberger CAD/CAM; Ann Arbor, Michigan (USA)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:50:53 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.121223.7320@b8.b8.ingr.com> bruce@b8.b8.ingr.com (Bruce Smith) writes:
>I was in the book store the other day and ran across the August 92
>edition of this magazine featuring the third part of a three part
>series by Douglas Whyte on building the Goodwrench Lumina. I am
>preparing to build this kit and would love to get copies of the
>first two parts of this series which appeared in the April and 
>June 92 editions.

If you look through the issue you have, you will certainly find a
(probably full page) ad showing all the back issues available.  I'm
certain you can get any recent issues, and the majority of the old
ones too if you want.

Dave Wilson
From: akwong@gundam.Eng.Sun.COM (Anthony Wong)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Tamiya America Inc.
Date: 12 Aug 1992 20:21:51 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: gundam

Well hello everybody....
I have some info for Tamiya America Inc.

Tamiya America Inc.
2 Orion
Aliso Viejo, CA 92656

(714) 362-2240

Customer Service
1-800-TAMIYA-A

I saw this off a business card at D&J Hobby Shop.
Please call to double check the address.

Time to vote yet?

Anthony Wong
From: dan@cubmol.bio.columbia.edu (Daniel Zabetakis)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Re: Images of Models (was Re: Any Scale Auto Magazine Subscribers Out There ??)
Date: 19 Aug 92 00:09:49 GMT
Organization: Columbia University, Dept. of Biological Sciences.

In article <1992Aug18.212141.17279@advtech.uswest.com> rray@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Randy J. Ray) writes:
>In article <1992Aug18.162741.3291@fang.att.com>, agwiii@fang.att.com (Grayson Walker (660-7949)(12/92)) writes:
>> 3. Post a GIF of your completed model.
>
>Now there's a thought! A good way to discuss each others' work, even! Of

    Not a bad idea, but you need a warning:

   Do not, DO NOT, post big binaries to this group. Many many sites will
either gag on it or fill up thier disks, and then junk alt.models.  The main
effect of posting a gif here will be loss of distribution.

    Since I expect that pics of models woulkd be ppretty special interest
rather than general, I would suggest that we find an FTP site that could
take it. If we started posting model gifs to a.b.p I bet we'd get bbunches
of complaints.

DanZ


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narratives or ideas contained herein are not necessarily true, and do
not necessarily represent the views of any particular person.
From: chiu@ucsee.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Re: Looking for T2 endoskeleton
Date: 14 Aug 1992 02:06:27 GMT
Organization: University of California Society of Electrical Engineers (UCSEE)
Reply-To: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsee.berkeley.edu
Summary: Where, what, how much
Keywords: T2 scale movies
Originator: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU

In article <1992Aug13.141725.2579@brtph560.bnr.ca> ppaglia@bnr.ca (Peter Paglia P925) writes:
>I am looking for a Tsukuda hobbies 'Cyberdyne T800 Endoskeleton'
>either chrome plated or not. I have called several importers,
>but no luck so far. I would prefer to locate a mail-order source, 
>one that a 'netter could recommend as 'reliable'.  

I'm assuming that you're referrin' to the injection endoskeleton kit by Tsukuda
Hobbies (since they also have a softvinyl endoskeleton kit) If I recall
correctly, the chrome plated kits are limited edition and is not pretty close
to impossible to get. Non-plated kit are available widely (at least in my
local area) and costs around $25 to $30 (for something that's listed 2000 yen,
that's damn expensive)

>A local shop here has the Horizon version of the endoskeleton, but 
>they are a {no soul} mall store (read exxxtra-high prices). :(
>And I would prefer the Tsukuda version, as Horizons is not 
>_true scale_, but more like stand-off-scale. But I'll take
>wut I kin git.

Horizon kit sucks big time, don't bother. If you can afford it, get the 1/4
kit by ArgoNuts (in Japan), great details, and quite a few white metal parts.
(hands and feet are entirely made out of white metal, as well as most of the
hydralics)

>Thanks,
>Pete.


Newsgroups: alt.models
From: jeybbu@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Let's save some $ on decals
Reply-To: jeybbu@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:31:49 GMT

Adrian expressed a need for specific decals....
I would share something we have done in Rochester NY through our
IPMS chapter.   

Create a decal bank.  Members bring in those parts of decals that
they will Never, never use and make them available for other
modelers.  So many kts today have decals for two or three aircraft,
or cars that no one can be interested in them all.  The system works 
well if you need one or two digits for a particular item.

I would encourage anyone who is a member of a club to try the idea.
All you need is a few individual willing to part with some decals, and
a box to put them in. 

If you are interested, an Email note will get you the details of
our system.

Julian Yudelson
IPMS 4287
Newsgroups: alt.models
From: aq479@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul E. Sincaglia)
Subject: Voting?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 16:25:23 GMT


Pardon me for being new to the Usenet system etc., but as I have
been reading for about a month, I am interested in voting
my opinion for the possible change of location to rec.model.??.

My question is where and how do I vote?

(I am assuming there are other new folks out there who would also
like to get this info so please post the answer/instructions)

Paul Sincaglia
aq479@cleveland.freenet.edu
skig@wpi.wpi.edu

-- 
There ought to be one day - just one - when there is open
season on Senators.
                             -Will Rogers
From: rray@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Randy J. Ray)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: The CFV has been sent
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:50:31 GMT
Organization: US WEST Communications, Inc. -- Denver, CO

I have sent the CFV for the new group. Unless the moderator of news.announce.
newgroups decides to toss it in the bitbucket with no explanation like he did
my first RFD, it should appear here by the end of today. I cannot stress enough
the importance of voting on this. It means the difference of whether we move
beyond alt or not. Besides, in the middle of an election year, I shouldn't
have to remind anyone of the importance of voting... :-)

Randy
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From: jl4l+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Lerchey)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Wanted: SkyWave 1:700...
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:47:52 GMT
Organization: Distributed Workstation Services, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Hi all!

I'm looking for a 1:700 scale SkyWave kit # SW0012 "Aircraft".  The kit
contains P-38s, P-40s, P-47s and P-51.  The kit has been discontinued in
my Squadron Shop catalog and I can't find any my local hobby shops...

Thanks!

John K. Lerchey
Computing Services
Carnegie Mellon University

jl4l@andrew.cmu.edu

Any similarity between these opinions and those of anyone with power,  
authority or a decent spell checker is purely coincidental.
Newsgroups: alt.models
From: agwiii@fang.att.com (Grayson Walker (660-7949)(12/92))
Subject: Re: Any Scale Auto Magazine Subscribers Out There ??
Keywords: I need articles from back issues please
Organization: AT&T Tax Systems Development, Maitland FL
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:27:41 GMT

Quoting Bruce Smith:
>preparing to build this kit and would love to get copies of the
>first two parts of this series which appeared in the April and 
>June 92 editions.
>
1. You should subscribe. Low circulation magazines need OUR support.
2. Contact SAE for back-issues. They usually have an ad, but if not,
check the masthead for address/telephone number.
3. Post a GIF of your completed model.
From: thorn@phoenix.radonc.unc.edu (Jesse Thorn)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Re: Shops in the Washington D.C. area.
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:18:47 GMT
Organization: Radiation Oncology, NCMH/UNC, Chapel Hill, NC

In article <1992Aug12.115729.20021@spider.research.ptt.nl> h.c.j.hilberink@research.ptt.nl (Bert Hilberink) writes:
>Hi,
>
>I read this newsgroup since last week. This is the first time I
>use it in an interactive way.
>
>Tomorrow I will leave for Washington D.C. for a business trip of
>6 days. Luckily I have enough time to have a look around, so a visit
>to the NASM is high on my priority list.


When I go to DC I check two places for hobby stuff:

 1. The gift shop at the NASM - a great selection of books
 2. The Squadron Hobby Shop in Wheaton, Md. - a great selection
    (compared to Chapel Hill NC) of models.

--Jesse
From: filfeit@rael.Tymnet.COM (Fil Feit)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Re: Shops in the Washington D.C. area.
Date: 14 Aug 92 11:47:52 GMT
Reply-To: filfeit@rael.Tymnet.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems

In article 3297@samba.oit.unc.edu, thorn@phoenix.radonc.unc.edu (Jesse Thorn) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.115729.20021@spider.research.ptt.nl> h.c.j.hilberink@research.ptt.nl (Bert Hilberink) writes:
>>
>>Tomorrow I will leave for Washington D.C. for a business trip of
>>6 days. Luckily I have enough time to have a look around, so a visit
>>to the NASM is high on my priority list.
>
>
>When I go to DC I check two places for hobby stuff:
>
> 1. The gift shop at the NASM - a great selection of books
> 2. The Squadron Hobby Shop in Wheaton, Md. - a great selection
>    (compared to Chapel Hill NC) of models.
>
>--Jesse

I haven't been to the Squadron Hobby shop, but I live in VA and
recommend you don't miss Air Land and Sea at 1215 King Street in
Alexandria, VA.  They buy & sell old models, and have a wide selection
of books.  You never know _what_ you'll find there.

And DONT MISS Air & Space.  The gift shop is better for books than
models, unfortunately.  If you're a Star Trek fan, first thing you do
is go early, and get a (free) ticket to the Star Trek exhibit.  It's
pretty good.

BTW, Squadron is at 12351 Georgia Av in Wheaton, MD.

Enjoy your trip.  E-mail me if you find anything good....

--f2
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  All of life is six-to-five against
  --Runyon
Newsgroups: alt.models
From: urf@icl.se (Urban)
Subject: REVIEW: Tamiya 1/72 Bell X-1
Organization: None. On USENET I speak only for myself.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:52:19 GMT


This kit can be recommended.

You get the option to built either of three individuals, in five
different guises: Orange all over, orange with white trim, white
all over, white with metal wings and white with the newer canopy.

I can't vouch for the correctness of the colour mixings suggested,
but at least it looks like they've tried to get it right.

The one thing can make trouble for you is the option to make half
of the fuselage transparent. I choose to, and had two unsuccessful
tries of getting a good joint between the different materials.
Then comes the question of how much to leave unpainted. I painted 
the keel and spine, as well as the are under the wing, as you 
really have to paint the insides of the gear wells. I like the look
of this, as it's different, but on second thought the detailing on
the inside is a bit too sparse for it to be really effective.
The cockpit's OK though.

As usual, you have to cut away as much decal film as possible, that
done, the result is OK.

The instructions are very good, with detail sketches to show how
you should paint the disc-brakes &c.

The area around the nose pitot had to get some work to smooth it
out, otherwise parts fit was good enough. No flash or sinkmarks.
-- 
 Urban Fredriksson urf@icl.se (Or: n.g.u.fredriksson.swe2001@oasis.icl.co.uk)
Newsgroups: alt.models
From: gse@ida.liu.se (Goran Sedvall)
Subject: Decal film liquid.
Organization: CIS Dept, Univ of Linkoping, Sweden
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:55:10 GMT

Belive it or not but today I remembered to bring my bottle of decal saver.
The liquid is called Superfilm and is made by Super scale international inc,
Carson city, Nevada. The liquid is usefull for both saving old cracked
decals and make decals.

Goran
Newsgroups: alt.models
From: rray@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Randy J. Ray)
Subject: Re: Voting?
Organization: US WEST Communications, Inc. -- Denver, CO
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:55:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.162523.16760@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, aq479@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul E. Sincaglia) writes:
> 
> Pardon me for being new to the Usenet system etc., but as I have
> been reading for about a month, I am interested in voting
> my opinion for the possible change of location to rec.model.??.
> 
> My question is where and how do I vote?
> 
> (I am assuming there are other new folks out there who would also
> like to get this info so please post the answer/instructions)
> 

A valid assumption, so I'll answer here rather than e-mail...

A Call For Votes (CFV) will be issued at the appropriate time. There are
guidelines as to how much time must be permitted for a discussion period. After
that length of time, a CFV may be posted. This CFV will contain information on
where to mail your vote to. Votes posted to a newsgroup will not be accepted.
Watch this group for the CFV later this week.

Randy
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From: ckukkone@jarthur.claremont.edu (CK3)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: New Singles
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:40:14 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711


At the station, we got BDP We in There and FU-Snickens True FU-Schnick
and both have remixes by A Tribe Called Quest.  Both are real 
smooth versions and are pretty good.  True FU-Schnick doesn't
have the Toys R Us begining which I have on my album.  The BDP
single came on orange wax...and the FU-Snickens single came
on Green wax with a real funky clear sleeve.  What's Jive up to?

Has anybody seen these singles in the store?

CK3
Organization: Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 11:33:55 -0400 
From: Chad Mboya-Joe Darby <cd1l+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: En Vogue/Arrested Development Tour Dates????
Distribution: usa

Hmm,

Not sure when or where it begins but I have the info on Pittsburgh, PA:

	En Vogue / Arrested Development
	17 September, 8:00pm
	A.J. Pulombo Center
	Pittsburgh, PA.

Going to pick up my tickets on Monday!

Also Kriss Kross / MC Lyte will be in town on 12 September.  Damn, looks
like the Pittsburgh promoters are finally making some progress!


/// Chad Darby		         /
//  Field Robotics Center       //
/   Carnegie Mellon University ///
From: blackmon@eng.auburn.edu (Ferrol Rawson Blackmon)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Follow For Now
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:44:31 GMT
Reply-To: blackmon@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering

Hey People,

	If you want to check out a really funky album and group-- Check out
Follow for Now.  The group is from Atlanta, home of TLC, Kriss Kross, and 
Arrested Development.  Their sound has been compared to Living Colour, but I
personally think they are closer to Fishbone and/or 24-7 Spyz.  

	In fact, I saw them open for 24-7 Spyz at the Roxy in Atlanta a while
back.  They out-performed Spyz by far, in my opinion.  They play a lot in Atlanta,
Athens, Birmingham, and Huntsville.  Get the album and check um out if you can.
The shows are really cheap for what you get-- Funked UP!!!!!!!!!!!

Word,

Funkmeister X
Organization: Junior, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:03:43 -0400 
From: Eric Scott Jefferson <ej0i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Ice Cube: the 'n' word
Distribution: usa

>I saw Ice Cube at Lollapalooza yesterday in Raleigh, and I noticed that in his
>songs he replaced the word 'nigga' in almost every instance with other words
>like 'person' or 'brother'.  Did he do this at other shows?  Does this
>represent a decision on Cube's to avoid using 'nigga'?  I know he (as well as
>others) has been criticized by Chuck D and others for such casual use of the
>word.  Does this have anything to do with his recent conversion to the Islamic
>faith?

Are you sure you saw the same person as I did? When I saw him at Lake
Fairfax Park in Virginia last Friday he was saying "nigga" and
motherfuck and every other word all over the place. He left nothing out
of any of his songs (except in Gangsta Gangsta he changed all references
to Dr. Dre and Eazy E and M.C. Ren to members of the Lench Mob). He even
invited the crowd to rap some parts along with him leaving in all the
cursing and racial slurs.


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Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: gatsby@wam.umd.edu (Ravindra Pillalamarri)
Subject: Book!
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 04:25:29 GMT

Followup-To: 
Distribution: alt.rap
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Keywords: 

	Ok, those people who make the Norton Anthologies are making
a Norton Anthology of Rap Lyrics.  I am trying to get this book into
the library where I work, and I want yall to do the same.  The mere
presence of this book in libraries nationwide would most likely
educate the general public a great deal about the nature of this form,
and, I hope, remove some of the tired streotypes that I see everywhere
I look.
	Another company is coming up with one of these anthologies as
well, but I can't remember who it is.  More on this later.

Ravi Pillalamarri
gatsby@wam.umd.edu

Organization: Junior, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA