HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Subject: Re: More gasohol
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:09:22 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

>|This looks very promising for both motorcycle and auto manufacturers.
>|(Harley Davidson, please take note).
>
>Harley?  Two strokes?   HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!

Don't forget the Aermacci's (sp?) True, they were Italian-made, but were sold
as Harleys and H-D owned a major portion of the factory.
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< Neal Howard                         | '91 Harley Sportster XLH-1200 >
< email: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org     | DoD # 686                     >
< CompuTrac, Inc. (Richardson, TX)    | '69 Cougar XR7-GT390          >
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From: kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: MSF: BRC or ERC?
Summary: Well, Mr. Holier-than-thou
Date: 4 Oct 92 01:22:44 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <Oct.3.19.33.25.1992.29202@remus.rutgers.edu>, merenda@remus.rutgers.edu (Kill Bon Jovi) writes:
] Jerky? come on, Kevin.... that's much too silly to be considered an 
] insult.

Right.


] well, i was in your cs436 class for 8 weeks out of the summer, and
] i NEVER saw a FJ1200 outside

I only went 6 times.  Every time, I parked my blue FJ right outside
the doors between the two parts of Hill center.

In case you couldn't figure it out,  I was the one with the helmet
(red or blue)  



], and we both know that there's only 
] 1 place to park next to hill center.

Maybe for you.  I parked next to Hill, not SEC.


] but this is really childish,
] and we're wasting bandwith.

You started it.
] the point of the matter is that someone
] posted an article looking for some information. Curtis was nice enough
] to answer the post and provide some information that someone else
] was looking for. and you go flame him for it. really swift.

I'm sure he didn't care.  You've wasted lots more space than me, and I
don't see a net.police bagde in your .sig.  
 
] and if you actually do ride a bike, that's great. i hope that you
] have a great time doing it and never get injured doing it. 

I already have.  I totalled a Radian in '90.
I hope I never do again.  Thanks for the sentiment.

Which bike was yours outside SEC? 

], if you would like to keep this little arguement going, write me
] at   "merenda@remus.rutgers.edu"

I don't, and, if I did, I'd post wherever I wanted to.

Jerky.

    :)  <- This is a smiley face.  I thought that people smart enough
to login to a computer didn't need to have humor pointed out to them.

I guess I was wrong.

                                           Kevin
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: ok, who's pretending to be STUPID... (was Re: Harley Fashionable == Deaths)
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:33:09 -0600
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
 00YUnAXpghH@andrew.cmu.edu] <2580@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS


> [...]
I am not familier with HD's but I can't believe 
> ]that a 1200+ cc engine on a 600+ pound bike is a good choice for a first
> ]bike. 

It is counter-intuitive.  I believe the Harley Big Twins (I don't
know about the Sportsters) are quite easy to ride.  Twice I've
loaned my '78 Super Glide to women riders who had modest experience
and in both cases they were astonished by how much easier to handle
and manage it was than their bikes (one was a Kay 750 twin, the other
a 600cc BMW.)  One of the best kept secrets among small men is how
easy the Big Twins are to handle.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: yduj@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Judy Anderson)
Subject: Re: How far do you commute?
Organization: /etc/organization
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:00:30 GMT

In article <92273.112423HAHN@UCF1VM.BITNET> HAHN@UCF1VM.BITNET writes:
>I have just moved.....and my commute has gone from a 15 minute
>7 mile trip to >45min god-knows-how-far trip.
>
>How far is too far?  I have a cage...but it looks so pretty
>sitting in the garage.  :-)
>
>How far does the average Denizen commute?

I commute 33 miles one way, mostly on the superslab, forty minutes
total.  I'm starting to get pretty tired of the peanut sized tank on
my CB450; I can go to work and back for two days and then I have to
fill up.

I'm a wimp; I sit in the cage when it rains and sometimes I have plans
in the evening which entail driving housemates home afterwards, so I
cage it then too.  And it's been pretty cold lately; not sure how long
this is gonna last before I hang it up for the winter.  This summer I
averaged 2 or 3 days per week on the bike.

       Judy Anderson yclept yduJ     'yduJ' rhymes with 'fudge'
	      yduJ@symbolics.com      DoD #166
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From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What would you buy for $2000?
Date: 28 Sep 92 09:27:49 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Sep27.055027.5555@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> coburnn@spot.Colorado.EDU (COBURN  NICHOLAS SCO) writes:

>A friend of mine asked me to reccommend the most motorcycle he could 
>purchase for around $2000.

For any given parameter of motorcycle performance, a Harley achieves
that performance by means of more motorcycle than any other
manufacturer. Size counts, as they say.
-- 
Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: noemi@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Noemi Berry)
Subject: Re: Double minus 5
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 22:06:00 GMT

>So, just as in the DoD, with road speed signs there are no rules.
>Don't let the signs kid you, and learn to read the corner without
>their help.  *Do* take them seriously when they imply a *major*
>slowdown, though.

i love the yellow signs that suggest 55mph for a curve -- on a 55mph road!
"we know you don't REALLY go 55, but for this curve, you really should."

noemi
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noemi@cs.ucla.edu (for now)     				KotSBL
DoD #443  						'82 KZ 305 CSR
	NM (Next Motorcycle) countdown: $3000 left to go :-(
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Cervi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: car-to-bike jump start
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:04:56 GMT
Organization: NSWC, Carderock Div. Det., Annapolis Facility

In article <1992Sep25.134037.457@sbctri.sbc.com> asper@sbctri.sbc.com 
(Alan E. Asper) writes:
>I got on the bike this morning and the battery was dead. Since the
>bike's battery is 12 volts, and my car's battery is 12 volts, can I
>use the car battery to jump it? The bike owner's manual only says that
>a 12 volt booster battery should be used. No mention of amperage, etc.

I've done it before on my Guzzi battery. I'm sure you can do it also 
if you are careful.  The key is to not cook the motorcycle battery.  

First make sure the electrolyte levels in all cells are correct.  Only 
leave the jumper cables on while you are cranking.  Make the (+) connection 
at the battery or starter terminal, and make the (-) connection on the 
frame or engine block. Make the (-) conection last. This is safer
since there will be no sparks near the battery itself.

Disconnect the cables when the engine starts. DON'T LEAVE THEM CONNECTED
ANY LONGER THAN YOU NEED TO START THE ENGINE.

	     Mark Cervi, cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil, (w) 410-267-2261
		 DoD #0603  MGNOC #12998  '87 Moto Guzzi SP-II
      "What kinda bikes that?" A Moto Guzzi. "What's that?" Its Italian.
-- 
	Mark Cervi, CARDEROCKDIV, NSWC Code 2752, Annapolis, MD  21402
	  cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil, (w) 410-267-2261, (h) 410-647-0990
From: ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan - Mick)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: We are sick and tired!!
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:00:21 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

In a previous article, tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>) said:
:- ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan - Mick) writes:
:- >
:- >	this from a person who isnt even on internet!!! ;)
:- 
:- NEWBIE ALERT!
:- 
:- Clue? "isnt even on internet"
:- 
:- All those .edu, freshman, Internet ignorant newbies think that IP
:- connectivity brings with it some magical level of importance and basic
:- superiority.

	sorry... all guesses wrong... finishing grad student soon-to-be
	non-.edu poster ... thats me. maybe you should go back to school
	and take a course in logic?? just a suggestion! ;)

:- What the fuck do they know.

	yeah... you tell us! ;-P

	peace,

	- ravi


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From: daved@convex.com (David Dorfman)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley Fashionable == Deaths
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:59:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: convex.daved.718300793
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <Ienxzv_00YUnAXpghH@andrew.cmu.edu> ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Joseph Andy) writes:
>Are you insane?  A Harley is far from one of the largest fastest bikes
>around.  It's large sure, but outta the factory it has minimal power.
>It also has relatively lazy steering and is quite stable (where it =
>generalized Harley's).

>Personally, I can't think of a new bike that's any better than
>something like a sporty as a first bike.  Easy to ride, little power,
>and looks great.  Plus, at least when I'm riding it, you don't feel

Yeah right, You can say what you want, but there is no way in the world
that you can put that much engine on a bike and not have a fairley high
level of performance. I am not familier with HD's but I can't believe 
that a 1200+ cc engine on a 600+ pound bike is a good choice for a first
bike. 

Granted an 883 might be OK for a first bike, but think about it.

A young guy gets a Harley to make a fashion statement, with no idea of 
how to ride, goes fast in a straight line, gets to a curve and what happens
next?

Dave
DoD 1085
From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Enough with the FAQ! THANKS!
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 30 Sep 1992 06:10:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62003.student.cwru.edu

In article <1992Sep30.043626.6561@javelin.sim.es.com>,
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) wrote:
> 
> 
> Good idea, but it needs a bit of refining. For every newbie that's too
> impatient/lazy to wait/search for the DoD FAQ, there's probably a couple
> more without the guts to ask. So every time someone asks, everyone should
> POST the FAQ.

In an effort to piss of the disk deficient I say we should all post
a uuencoded GIF of someone reading the FAQ out of their tank bag, map
pouch, while doing DoD nominal, naked.

> -- 
> Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834 | DoD #207  AMA #573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci.  | KotNML  /  KotB      |
| "You can lead the house to order, but you     | '81 CB750C           |
| can't make it think"  -William Weld (Gov. Ma.)| '88 Bianchi Limited  |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Subject: Re: Motorcyclist Hits Bicyclist on Skyline Blvd. (10/4/92, 1:30p)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:36:16 GMT

In article <RTARAZ.92Oct6105923@bernoulli.WPI.EDU> rtaraz@bernoulli.WPI.EDU 
>smaller ones (given a dickhead is behind the wheel)  
>
>cars harass motorcyles,
>motorcycles harass bikes,
>bikes harass pedestrians.
>big pedestrians harass small ones!

You forgot: 

trucks harass cars. 


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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth)
Subject: Kill the county, let god sort'm out
Organization: University of Colorado Boulder, Pizza Disposal Group
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:44:38 GMT

as some of you may remember i made a grand sacrifice of body, soul,
and motorcycle so that those coming to the "ride'n'feed(tm)" would
be safe.

due to the idiosy of county employee's (and i think i being nice 
calling them idiots) i wiped and totaled my bike.

total medical (no insurance so this is out o pocket): ~$3000
total bike: ~$2700
(other misc. expensess $1000+)

now my laywer calls me in for a conference (scares the shit out of
me to since i can't stand authority (and a LAYWER allways makes 
me think authority)), turns out if it was a city/state road i could
sue their ass off. BUT FUCKING COUNTY ROADS ARE VERBOTTEN. my 
only chances are if we can prove "willfull and wanton negligence"
on the part of the county employees or if a sub-contractor did it
(i'll win the lottery before i can get lucky enough to prove any 
of the above).

now we come to the climax (love that word) of this posting.

at the rate i am getting paid it will be well into spring/summer
before i have the current medical debt paid off.

i can't wait till summer to start fixing my bike. not being able
to ride is already messing with my mind (no stress relief).

anyone hiring? 1 sys-admin with no degree, been sys-admining for
last 7 years off & on mainly BSD unix (suns, decs, hp-ukes),
know networking (how to install, fix and preform abotions on), know at&t
but not as well (got to with all the times i've ended up in single-user).
i have a resume some where around here and will be polishing it up soon.


Laszlo Nemeth
pond_scum_sucker@cs.colorado.edu
"Flashbacks = free drugs."
"I was so appaled at 90210 I entered it wrong." Ed Green
"I trust you more on your motorcycle then I trust you on your bicycle" Mikii
Not many men can say they made a woman orgasm and laugh at the same time.
DoD #0666          UID #1999

ps no head hunters unless the salary is 6 figures +, $ or pounds only
pps no flat or south eastern states (ed get a bike).
ppps don't bother if its florida i hate the state with a passion i used 
to live there.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Subject: Re: How far do you commute?
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 15:59:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <Stafford-011092164827@stafford.winona.msus.edu> Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
>> 
>> <HAHN@UCF1VM.BITNET> writes:
>> 
>>
>> How far does the average Denizen commute?

6 blocks.

I walk.

But I walk with *attitude*

Charles
DoD: 0.001
-- 
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
From: kas19@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (Kevin Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What could you buy for $2000?
Date: 28 Sep 1992 17:20:48 GMT
Organization: Smith Undergrad Lab, CWRU, Cleve. OH
NNTP-Posting-Host: solarium.scl.cwru.edu
Summary: ^^^^^
X-Post-Machine: solarium.scl.cwru.edu

In article <Stafford-280992100901@stafford.winona.msus.edu> John
Stafford, Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU writes:
 >A friend of mine asked me to reccommend the most motorcycle he could 
 >purchase for around $2000.

Is anyone _really_ going to answer this question? As someone who is going to buy
his first bike hopefully in the near future I am extremely interested in this 
question (isn't it great how much prices come down when it gets cold!).
Can you really get a Ninja 600R or an EX 500 for $2000 dollars? If so, where do you live. Cheapest
used EX that I have seen around here was $2500. That $500  is a helmet and a leather
jacket to me, not to mention insurance. I don't really care about the _most_ bike
I don't really want anything bigger than a 600 but I would like something sporty
I just can't afford 2.5K for an EX.

   The upshot of this is: If you know of a sporty
500 or 600 and you live within 4 or 5 hours of Cleveburg E-mail me and let me know.    

thanks.

"I can't respect anyone whose only | Kevin Smith   DoD #959 
 contribution  to  music is  their |   
 opinion."                         |        
                --Nuno Bettencourt |
From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet Replacement Interval
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:56:13 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1asjqoINNpc9@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:

>2.  State of the art in plastics/fiberglass/wonder_stuff, foam, design,
>cooling, shape (both for impact and wind), etc., change enough in 5
>years to warrant an upgrade.

Not necessarily so. I decided to go shopping for a new helmet when my
trusty car-racing spec helmet was 20 years old. This old helmet was
very heavy, sturdy, and built to last. An important feature was that
its liner was not made of styrofoam but a stiff low-rebound plastic
foam which slowly recovers its shape after being compressed.
Consequently it still fits me, and is not subject to the major aging
factor of styrofoam lined helmets. It had nice quality features like
two separate chin straps, each one capable of holding the helmet on
securely, and both very easy to do up and undo.

I was unable to find any modern bike helmet at any price which was as
well made as this old one. None had such good securing straps, either
in terms of security, or ease of use. All the modern helmets used
styrofoam, which is cheap, doesn't last, and which recent research has
confirmed (and some of us always knew) is actually too stiff for the
optimum concussion protection (because the testing procedures are not
realistic). All of them, including the most expensive, were more
cheaply finished than this old one in terms of things like edging and
stitching and materials. What is more, the old helmet cost me 25
pounds, which is about 150 pounds at today's prices.  If only I'd
known I would have bought two of them and put one in cold storage!

IMHO modern bike helmets are disgusting rip-offs as far as price is
concerned. The only advances I can see is that manufacturers have
discovered how to meet the certifying tests with cheaper stuff (for
"cheap" helmets), and with lighter stuff (for the expensive ones).

Twenty years ago in Britain the best bike accessory shop would carry
not only helmets which met bike standards, but also helmets which met
stiffer standards, such as car racing helmets. The best helmets
exceeded any certifying standards, and specified the higher standards
to which they were made. The differences between the various
standards, and how well they reflected real crash conditions, was a
topic regularly discussed in the bike magazines.

I haven't seen any serious discussions like this in recent years, and
while I am sure that the worst available helmets today are _much_
better than they used to be, the same certainly can't be said for the
best.

I'm quite sure my new BMW System II will need to be replaced in 5
years. It is clearly much shoddier in materials and construction. I'm
disgusted.
-- 
Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: agent86@netcom.com (Michael McBride)
Subject: Re: WANTED:INTERCEPTER 500
Keywords: VF500F honda intercepter comments
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 00:07:51 GMT

In article <92280.154056AKS112@psuvm.psu.edu> ALEX STEFANOWICZ <AKS112@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>I am looking for a 1984-1986 Honda vf500 intercepter, low miles and with the
>fairings in good shape, and for a price that will not put me in debt for life.
>Preferably the model with the black seat and the top of the tank blue.
>Any infomation on the sale of this bike or general infomation about the
>intercepter (good or bad) is greatly appreciated.

	I had a 1985 model of this motorcycle...though mine did not have
	factory paint.....anyway, here are some random comments about the
	bike:

	If you are tall like me (6'2") the bike is a bit too small.  The
bike rides low and legs and arms are a bit too long.  If you are medium to
short in height, this should be a good choice.

	If you keep good tires on the thing it will handle quite well!  The
bike feels very light in the corners.

	The back wheel will lock up quite easily when braking...at least it
did on mine.  I dont have this problem on my new VFR750F :)

	Warning:  the engine is known for a common problem (a costly one too).
The cam lobes have a tendency to pit at about 10-20K miles.  I strongly
recommend you have the thing looked over thoroughly before buying.  (This
cam problem happened to me....right before it dropped a valve! though I
think the valve thing is due to the previous !$%#*! owner who cranked down
the valves to quiet the ticking caused by the pitted cam. oh well)

	Overall this is a good bike if it fits you and the engine isnt 
	screwed up.  Remember that way back when, the 500 Intercepter was
	the original handling machine....I believe the comment was
	"...it corners like a scalpel.." or something similar from a
	long forgotten motorcycle mag.  This is a nice lightweight bike
	and IMHO a good intro to sport class bikes.

good luck....

p.s. please no flames....all above is my opinion based on my own experience.
	though I would be happy to hear about someone else's experience
	with this machine.

-- 
_____________________________________________________________________________
  Michael McBride		   |__"I've done...questionable things."-Roy
  [agent86@netcom.com]		   |~~"More human than human..."-Tyrell
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From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: fuel/engine efficiency
Date: 2 Oct 92 11:12:10 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <1992Oct1.084014.2380@inland.com>, bloom@inland.com writes:
> I think you've got woolly caterpillars growing in your head.  This 
> isn't what I've been told.  As a rule, there are no Great Conspiracies. 

who said anything about a great conspiracy?  individual companies make
individual decisions based on their leadership.  the companies and their
leadership share a similar value: making money.  in intrenched industries,
where significant capital is already invested and the resources are still
there, the capitalist thing to do is nothing, just keep churning out whatever
you churn out and prevent your competition (the ones with the better
mousetraps) from getting a foot up.  not every company can compete on the
offensive, bringing out new advanced products (like H-D and ford against
the japanese) and so fall back on defensive postures like buying up and
sitting on technology, which, whether you or chuck thinks so or not, is part
and parcel of stealing technology. 

we don't see so much of this in the computer industry because it is not a
mature industry yet.  someone like jobs/woz could still build a machine in
their garage from off-the-shelf parts.  the threat is still there. although ibm
bought the patent for core memory from an wang (of wang labs) and sat on it for
8 years before bringing it to market. otoh, ibm, with its bureaucratic ways,
could not counter from its mainstream labs and so brought the pc out of boca. 

can we get back to nazis now?

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
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