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From: loszewski_im@hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Loss of Energy midway through a set
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:20:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <1993Jan7.163725.5915@cis.ohio-state.edu>, rviswana@violin.cis.ohio-state.edu (r viswanathan) writes:
> 
>   I have been working out for a couple of years now and am just starting to
>   get regular at the gym after a long layoff. 
>   Here is my problem. I can squat reasonable poundages (225 lbs) without much
>   trouble, but my upper body (chest and deltoids) refuse to get stronger.
>   Midway through a set, after about 5 reps done in good form, I suddenly lose
>   energy and the next rep becomes extremely difficult. This is a recent 
>   phenomenon and I haven't experienced it before. This happens only on
>   lifts involving the deltoids and the chest like the military or the bench
>   press.
> 
>   I am 22 years of age, 6' tall and weigh about 157 pounds. I work out
>   6 days a week for about 40 minutes per session. I know I am not overtraining
>   because my back and legs are making progress. Can anyone suggest a remedy?
> 
>  --Thanks

It sounds like you might be experiencing carb depletion.  In other
words,depending  on what I consume for carbs during the day before my workout, 
will determine how well my workout will be.  If I eat little carbs during the
day, my muscles will not be able to work as hard as when I consume alot of
carbs.
Try this:  on a day that you are experiencing this problem, during your workout
, drink a bottle of Twinlabs Ultra Fuel.  This is loaded with glucose.  After 
about a half an hour, you should feel a little bit better.  If this works, then
you know that you are experiencing carb depletion, if not, then the problem 
could lies elsewhere.

-Rob
> 
>   Ram Viswanathan.
From: samari@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Tammy Woodley)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: StairMaster Technique?
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:16:08 GMT
Reply-To: samari@watserv.ucr.edu
Distribution: usa

In article <Jan.8.16.46.08.1993.3359@gandalf.rutgers.edu>  
shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan R. Hagan) writes:
> mazur@bluefin.camb.inmet.com (Beth Mazur) writes:
> 
> >In article <1993Jan8.192219.21089@news.acns.nwu.edu> 

> Because when you cycle, your lower body does the work, and all of the
> resistance comes from the tension on the bicycle.  Sitting doesn't 
> change the resistance.
> 
> When you do the stairmaster, the work again, is done by your lower
> body, but only some of the resistance comes from the machine.  A lot
> of it comes from your body weight.  When you lean over, you do two
> things: you support your weight with your upper body rather than
> your lower body, which decreases the resistance, which makes it
> easier, and you strain your back by assuming a bad posture.
> 
> -- 
> Susan R. Hagan (shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu) 
> Publications Coordinator - User Services
> Rutgers University Computing Services

If you don't believe this, look at the faces of the people who are doing full  
strides... they obvious look like they are working hard, wheras the speed
mini-striders don't even look tired.

Now, i wonder if you didn't lean on your arms, yet still went fast with  
mini-strides, would it be harder than full strides?  I think it's time for an  
experiment..... :)

- Tammy

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From: behnke@FNALF.FNAL.GOV
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Target Heartrate
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:58:12 GMT
Reply-To: behnke@FNALF.FNAL.GOV
Distribution: usa,na
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnalf.fnal.gov

In article <1993Jan6.111939.1@stsci.edu>, younger@stsci.edu writes:
>>     Mike Behnke writes: 
>> I have been told by my doctor that 3-4 hours of MODERATE aerobic execise a week
>> is MUCH better than 5 or 6 bursts of high intensty anaerobic exercise a week.
>> 
>
>     Just curious...what does your doctor mean by better?  Why should your 
>  doctor (or for that matter any doctor) have any more insight on this topic 
>  than someone who is interested in keeping fit and attempts to keep up to 
>  date on this topic?
>
>                                      jwy
Doing 3-4 hours of moderate (aerobic) execise allows your fat stores to begin
expelling fat into your blood stream to feed the muscle cells.  The fat and the
oxygen are "burned" in the working muscle cell effeciently without producing
any lactic acid, which causes muscle sto cramp up and feel sore.  Anaerobic
execise on the other hand "burns" the glocose stores of the muscle cells (which
they need for repairing themselves after working out) and produces the lactic
acid.  For a better understanding/explanation of this, pick up a copy of "The
New Fit or Fat" at your local bookstore.

Mike Behnke
Fermi Nat Accel Lab
Batavia, Il.
My opinions are my own, and MOST of them don't mean a thing !

mb
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith)
Subject: Re: Loss of Energy midway through a set
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:09:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.163725.5915@cis.ohio-state.edu> rviswana@violin.cis.ohio-state.edu (r viswanathan) writes:
>  I have been working out for a couple of years now and am just starting to
>  get regular at the gym after a long layoff. 
>  Here is my problem. I can squat reasonable poundages (225 lbs) without much
>  trouble, but my upper body (chest and deltoids) refuse to get stronger.
>  Midway through a set, after about 5 reps done in good form, I suddenly lose
>  energy and the next rep becomes extremely difficult. This is a recent 
>  phenomenon and I haven't experienced it before. This happens only on
>  lifts involving the deltoids and the chest like the military or the bench
>  press.
>
>  I am 22 years of age, 6' tall and weigh about 157 pounds. I work out
>  6 days a week for about 40 minutes per session. I know I am not overtraining
>  because my back and legs are making progress. Can anyone suggest a remedy?
>
> --Thanks
>
>  Ram Viswanathan.

Hi Ram!
I think that the important thing here is just how often you are training
the upper body.  My suggestion is to train upper body less often, and
with fewer exercises for a while.  You might also consider training upper
body a bit lighter for maybe about a month, such that you are in the
15-20 rep range.  This should be enough to get you past your "sticking
point".  After a month, re-evaluate your situation, and change your routine
again.  When you go back to heavier weights and lower reps in your upper
body work, be sure to allow each bodypart two-days-rest before hitting
it again.

Keith R
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: sfjr@wam.umd.edu (Steve Russell)
Subject: Re: StairMaster Technique?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:24:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.192219.21089@news.acns.nwu.edu> bergstrm@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Todd Bergstrom) writes:
>
>>>>       2. others lean all over the hand trails and support most of their
>>>>          weight that way.  But these people usually go about an hour
>>>>          on the highest setting
>
>
>	Here at school when I work out with the stairmasters I probably look
>like the odd one in the crowd because I use a full stride(comfortable length)
>while most others (usually the females) are just zipping along with 4 inch
>strides while supporting their weight with locked arms.  In comparison, I look
>like I am moving in slow motion. I can't believe they think they are working
>out  at all.  I don't know why they don't stay home and wiggle their toes for 
>an hour to get an equvalent workout.  
>

	I feel the same way when I see folks on the lifecycle engrossed in
a book while their legs are hardly pumping and they are not even breaking
a sweat.  They may stay on for literally hours, complain it isnt working,
B
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B
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and then go on a drastic diet.
>       A simple explanation on why a full stride is important.  If you look
>into a window or mirror while on the stairmaster your body will move up and
>down a little with each stride.  This distance is the important factor as 
>physics does not lie
>
>    work equals force(body weight) time distance (movement of your
From: daves@meaddata.com (Dave Spencer)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Popping joints
Date: 6 Jan 1993 13:03:27 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: thetribe.meaddata.com

Can someone please explain why joints pop/crack for some people and
not others??  I have never had a problem with my knees yet it seems I
can make them crack at will (elbows too).  Is there something that can
be done to reduce/eliminate this??  I am only 28 but feel like I am 80
every time this happens.

Thanks.


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From: zell@curtiss.seas.ucla.edu (Adam W. Zell)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: PowerBar replacements
Date: 6 Jan 93 22:40:50 GMT

There are several I have tried other than the ubiquitous PowerBar.

Performance Bar: About .99 each, 220 cal. 2g fat.  Tastes like a cookie.
FinHalsa Bar: About .99 each, 170 cal. 2g fat.  Tastes like a bran bar with honey.
Exceed Bar: About $1.50 each, 280 cal. 2g fat.  Tastes like a thick brownie.

There are also the Cytomax Bar, plus all the other bodybuilding bars  (Hot Stuff,
Twinlab, Haney, etc.)

I prefer the Exceed bar, because of its higher calories and less % of fat.
However, it is not cheap.

Usually, bicycle stores will let you sample the bars before buying.



Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: J032300@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Hip reconstruction surgery
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 13:10:58 PST

Hi there - I'm not sure if this is the correct news group, but
does anyone have any information on Hip reconstructive surgery?
Or know of anyone who has gone through it? Please e-mail me
directly - Thanks. Lori
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: vittallo@ssd.comm.mot.com (John Vittallo)
Subject: WHAT DOES POLY-UNSATURATED MEAN
Organization: Motorola
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 13:37:33 GMT


Also, are there other types of oil or fat?
From: robin@fisher.bio.uci.edu (Robin Bush)
Subject: Re: bad posture
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Reply-To: robin@fisher.bio.uci.edu
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:12:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.075514.14192@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>  
dmwalter@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Dave Walter) writes:

> I'm in good physical shape with a fairly muscular body, but I have
> trouble with standing straight, sitting etc. 

my posture improved with situps situps situps

----------------------------------------------------------
Robin 
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: tscwhitehead@cc.weber.edu (Clarke Whitehead)
Subject: Re: eczema trouble
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Weber State University
Date:  5 Jan 1993 10:28 MST  

In article <1993Jan5.104919.22952@news.media.mit.edu>, alice@media.mit.edu (alice lei) writes...
>have you guys tried lidex?
>its strong stuff
>but it really works much better than the cortisone type things

What is Lidex?  Is it a corticosteroid?  Is it prescription? What are it's
side effects and long-term impact?
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini)
Subject: Re: bad posture
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:24:05 GMT

Try backstretching exercises like the simple yoga postures after lifting, running,
or sports.  That may help the posture.  I am usually too stiff before the exercise
session or in the morning to do these well.
From: lfw1@gte.com (Wood)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Abs Question
Date: 6 Jan 93 14:55:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham MA

Hi, this is Ron using a friend's account:

In article <1idmfdINNkv3@mirror.digex.com> hacker@access.digex.com (Dark Hacker) writes:

[stuff deleted]

>Coffee simply is not good for you, although the jury is still out as to
>how bad it is for you.  Out the window with it.  Even that good Sumatran peat.

On behalf of the pro-coffee faction out there, I have to say that the
above statement is neither very substantial and may be completely
inaccurate.  Sure.  Mega-doses of caffeine may not be so good for you.
But in all seriousness, caffeine is an *excellent* training supplement.
Many people swear by a cup of coffee (or about 200 mg caffeine) taken
about 30-45 minutes before a workout.

To say that caffeine is simply a no-no, at any dosage, is in itself a
no-no.

Ron
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith)
Subject: Re: Pec/Chest definition
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:12:38 GMT
Keywords: weights exercise chest definition

In article <6687@pdxgate.UUCP> glen@rigel.cs.pdx.edu (Glen Barney) writes:
>
>I've been observing lots of people doing various exercises for chest
>development - bench press, fly, etc.  What is the best way to define and
>fill out your chest?  Specifically, I've seen some people with really
>good definition along the lower horizontal edge of their pecs.  How can
>this best be done?  Motions/sets/weight/reps?
>
>Glen

In a word:

	Dips.

Bodyweight should be plenty. Do whatever number of reps that you can
manage. Decline dumbell presses and pullovers would be options 2 and 3.
You will have to determine set/reps on your own. Find out what "feels right"
and do it.  If you are doing it right, the muscles being worked should
feel especially warm and "pumped" when you are done.

Keith R
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: monster@cix.compulink.co.uk (John Nelson)
Subject: European and World Netters...           
Cc: Monster@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: monster@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:56:00 +0000

 I'm doing an informal survey of attitudes towards and legality of alleged
performance enhancing drugs in athletics and bodybuilding across the world.
To this end I would welcome email from British, European, Scandinavian etc
netters, with a view to finding out what's legal, safe and, above all,
effective. eg is it possible to buy clenbuterol without prescription in
Europe? (Spiropent or Clenasma?)
From: (Jennifer Shaw)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Stepping Macine, Exercise Bike For Sale
Followup-To: misc.fitness
Date: 6 Jan 1993 20:56:57 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: lat1mac40.cchem.berkeley.edu

FOR SALE:  Ultrafit Series 7  Air Stepping Machine.  One year old, hardly
used, as new. Bought form Fitness Concepts in Berkeley.  Asking $350. 
Also:  Tunturi exercise bike, good condition, $75.  Call Jennifer at 510
525 4958.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: poo@athena.mit.edu (Claude Poux)
Subject: Re: where do jocks buy jeans?
Keywords: hard-to-fit
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:39:30 GMT

In article <C0I9Ln.EAE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mwbg9715@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark Wayne Blunier) writes:
>krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith) writes:
>
>>Now that I have dropped 27 lbs and got my old physique back, I find it
>>hard to buy pants again.  As for dress pants, I'm gonna have to re-acquaint
>>myself with my tailor.  As for casual pants (ie., jeans, khakis, and twills),
>>some brands fit and some don't.  The problem that I have with the ones that
>>_don't fit_ is that they tend to be cut too-tight in the thigh _and_ too
>>big in the waist.  Sound familiar?  I find that casuals by BLUEZONE and
>>BUGLE-BOY tend to fit me pretty well, as do painters/carpenters pants by
>>CARHART.  Now that I have lost my spare tire and butt, LEE, LEVI'S, and
>>WRANGLER jeans simply do not fit.  I had some hope for the new crop of
>>"loose fitting" jeans by LEE and LEVI'S, until I tried some on.  I found
>>a pair that _almost_ fit, except that I could barely get my ankle thru
>>the cuff.  Had I bought them, I would not have been able to wear any kind
>>of boots with them.  (I have cowboy boots and work boots that I like to wear.)
>
>>What I want to know is where do other wanna-be-jock-types get their
>>jeans from?

yo, since you're talking tailor-made, try calling lator clothiers in ohio.
they specialize in clothes for bodybuilders, professional football
players, etc.  (216) 434-8022.

poo
From: knight@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Paul Knight)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:16:11 GMT
Subject: Re: NordicTrack Gold
Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: misc.fitness

I own a Flex Gold.  I'm rather happy with it.  However, there are a few
things that you should think about.  First, the sytem doesn't use weights,
but it uses a centrifugal brake.  The harder you push, the harder it resists.
This keeps the weight of the machine down so that it can be put in a 
second floor room.  Second, the workmanship is quite good.  Third, it takes
a bit of fussing around to change the machine between different exercises.
Some of the leg exercises are a bit clumsy, the the upper body exercises
are pretty good.  Fourth, the maximum resistance is limited to an equivalent
of 350 pounds.  I personally find this too low, but for most people it 
will be sufficient.  Fifth, it doesn't take up much floor space.  Sixth,
Nordic Track is very responsive to customer problems.

In summary, I like it very much and would recommend it.  I did supplement
the machine with Nordic Track's back and abdominal machine.  This Flex
Gold is not good for exercising the abdomen and lower back.  

		       
						    Paul L. Knight

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith)
Subject: Re: Abs and Backache
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:51:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.164031.2655@newstand.syr.edu> jkhan@lynx.cat.syr.edu (Jamal Khan) writes:
>I had a query regarding the harm abdominal exercises can do to your lower back.
>I have been working on my stomach muscles for 9 months now and have gotten fairly good defintion. I do about 12 different exercises with 20 reps for each.
>I also maintain a 4 day a week free weight program. For quite some time now my lower back has started hurting especially during lower abs workout.
>I was wondering what abdominal exercise put the most strain on the lower back, so I can ease off them for sometime. 
>And 1 more thing... how strong does one have to be to do one hand pushups?
>I seem do 15 fairly easily but bench only 135-145lbs.  I weigh ~150
>
>Jamal

Hi Jamal!
As for the ab work, though you did not say _which_ exercises you are doing
I am going to make the following suggestions:

	1) do your ab work off of the floor, as in doing knee-ups
		from a chinning bar (doorway chinning bar, or otherwise)

	2) after your back pain subsides, do some exercises to develop
		your low-back region directly, as in arch-ups or 
		hyperextensions.....
		arch-ups are something like toe-touches, except that the
		lower body is held fixed in a slightly-bent-knee,
		slightly-bent-hip, position (gorilla-style).  the action
		is that of relaxing the entire back and going into sort
		of a low slump (your fingertips should be approx 6" off the
		floor at the bottom of the movement), then you arch your
		entire back until your upper torso is vertical and your
		shoulders are back. (this is not as easy as it sounds...
		the first time that I tried it, I had to stop after
		15 reps.  the spinal erectors get _such_ a pump/burn
		from this one.  The upside is that your back will get
		conditioned to this movement very rapidly)

As for the one-arm push-ups vs. bench press.  If you can even _do_
one-handers, that puts you in an elite group.  I would not really
care what the bench-press poundage was.  If anybody thinks that you
are taking it easy or being wimpy, just invite them to duplicate your
feats.  I guarantee that 9/10 will be immediately humbled.

Keith R
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger)
Subject: Re: Popping joints
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:34:51 GMT

In article <1ielavINNp2h@meaddata.meaddata.com> daves@meaddata.com (Dave Spencer) writes:
>Can someone please explain why joints pop/crack for some people and
>not others??  I have never had a problem with my knees yet it seems I
>can make them crack at will (elbows too).  Is there something that can
>be done to reduce/eliminate this??  I am only 28 but feel like I am 80
>every time this happens.

geez...how come no one ever bites at this one

I'd *LOVE* to see a discussion about this develop especially with some
fitness/trainer types and some medical types


all I know is: my knees have popped a lot ever since I was little and
now that I lift, my shoulders pop all the time

I've heard a lot about different types of shoulder and knee injuries and
never understood the relationship to the popping if any

I've had a trainer and a doctor tell me that building muscle in the area
will reduce the popping (but nothing more detailed)

I've learned from experience that the popping can signal extreme
soreness and pain sometimes when I'm using the joint a lot

and I've had a friend who has lifted for a long time tell me that his
shoulders always pop too and that he just rotates his arms in a circle
(to make them pop) between sets and that prevents them from feeling
really bad during the set

-Karl
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: mprisco@puma.cat.syr.edu ()
Subject: Re: StairMaster Technique?
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 11:15:23 EST

In article <1993Jan11.013813.11846@stortek.com> pae@blackcat.stortek.com (Phil Earnhardt) writes:
>In article <!f2rp3b@lynx.unm.edu> bhjelle@carina.unm.edu () writes:
>>In article <1993Jan8.200548.18834@inmet.camb.inmet.com> mazur@bluefin.camb.inmet.com (Beth Mazur) writes:
>>>On the other hand, I agree that supporting body weight is "cheating" but I
>>>really don't know why it should bother anybody.  Frankly, I don't see how
>>>supporting your body weight with your arms on a Stairmaster is any different
>>>than supporting your weight with your butt on a LifeCycle.
>
>The simplest response is that the "calories expended" measurement will be
>correct on the LifeCycle and incorrect on the StairMaster.

Now I've only been doing the Stairmaster for a month or two but
it seems to me that if you say you weigh less the machine is 
easier to use and that putting weight on you arms in effect makes
you
weigh less and makes the machine more difficult.  Does this sound
right to anyone?

Also, when I first started the trainer told me that its easier
to go faster.  Well, that might be true if you're taking those
baby steps but I keep a pretty full stride.  I think of it as
a substitute for a plastic step that I would step up and
down on (al al Covert Bailey's "chair stepping") and figure
that what I really want to do is increase the height of
the step not (necessarily) the speed.  But if I *am* going
to increase the speed I want to keep the height as much or 
more than it is when I work slower.  So if I can't keep up 
with the same height of step I'm working at too fast a rate.
Guess that's just my philosphy....

Margot


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