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From: ebm@corvair.almaden.ibm.com (Eli Messinger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Alternative radio stations
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:35:12 GMT
Organization: Pandora's Box

Clayton "My Dog Has One Ear" Glad...

> I'm sitting here right now listening to "Let's Stay Together" (a monster pop
> hit of 1972 - just a little bit of history there).  I get as much pleasure
> out of this as out of just about any music I can think of.  I'm quite sure
> that this has little effect on my intelligence and I'll go ear-to-ear with
> you on appreciation of "difficult" music any day.

Yeah, Clay, but you're already been identified as a Michael Bolton apologist,
so don't think that you can just go and balance that (and your love of "Let's
Stay Together") by strutting around your collection of early Ferrante & Teicher
albums (the ones where they talk about John Cage in the liner notes), or
obscure 70's Italian progrock acts like Arti & Mestieri.  Milo's point is
that the mere fact that you enjoy "Let's Stay Together" is indicative of your
less than superiour (note English spelling) intellect.  It's not that "Let's
Stay Together" has a detremental effect on your intelligence, it's that by the
very act of enjoying it, you prove your intelligence too low to be affected.
--
	      "Phish is good."  --James Treworgy, March 18, 1992
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From: rwyatt@niji.claremont.edu (Robert Wyatt)
Subject: LIVE RECORDINGS
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 05:43:40 GMT

Does anyone out there have any live Siouxsie, Bauhaus, Cocteau Twins,  
Damned, or SugarCubes live recordings (audio or video) ?  I have VERY  
few to offer in trade, but would be interested in hearing what you've  
got !

-Robert
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: R.E.M. Fan-file?
Keywords: REM, R.E.M., Berry, Buck, Mills, Stipe
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 04:35:30 GMT

In <1992Apr9.230429.6204@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> wilbanks@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Dylanus Deus Latinus) writes:
>I have checked all the files on nn, but there is not a single
>user-group

I assume you mean newsgroup.

>	devoted to R.E.M. Why? When they were in their prime,
>they were life-changing. Now they are still good but they lack something,
>like that incredible, eerie, feeling of overwhelming power.

sure, they were good.

>So when will we get it?

When the antichrist (or John Palmer) dictates that we must have it
or else.

WHY is it that everyone thinks we need groups for each band?  Can't
you talk about it here?
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
                                   Haazavaa?
From: mendola@acsu.buffalo.edu (James J. Mendola)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Pixies advice sought
Date: 7 Apr 92 02:05:15 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Apr7.003939.17514@leland.Stanford.EDU> drk@leland.Stanford.EDU (David Koehler) writes:
>
>I recently got the Pixies'_Bossanova_ (for free) and _Doolittle_.
>I really like _Doolittle_ but don't care much for _Bossanova_,
>except for "Rock Music" and "Is She Weird".
>Which one should I try next?  I can get a good deal on
>_Tromp Le Monde_ though my CD club.
>
>Thanks.
>     David Koehler

	Sounds like you have what it takes to be a real Pixies fan!  So 
far you seem to agree with most everyone on this newsgroup.  _Bossanova_
is an inferior album compared to all other Pixies albums.
	Bottom line...  Pick up that good-deal _Trompe Le Monde_ disc,
if that one goes over well, start your search for the _Surfer Rosa_/
_Come On Pilgrim_ combo.

		Enjoy (and welcome to the club),
							JiM
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: dml@wam.umd.edu (Douglas M. Lindsey)
Subject: Poster Children
Organization: Merriversity of Uniland, College Purgatory
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 01:50:40 GMT

Haven't seen any mention of the band Poster Children, lately.  They're
a relatively obscure band that claims to hail from Illinois.  I caught
them when they were the opening band for Swervedriver in Baltimore.  
I also saw a video of theirs on 120 Minutes for "If You See Kay" (say
that out loud ;-)

Anyway, they were supposed to have just signed an album deal with Sire, or
so they said on 120 Min.  A re-release of their first album was due the 
first week of April, but I have been unable to locate it in any of the
stores.  Anyone have any further information about the album or the band?

								-Doug
 
"Why...get a shoe shine/When...you're made of dirt..." 
Xref: sparky alt.music.alternative:2704 rec.music.misc:13546
From: timothys@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Tim Shuttleworth)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
Subject: Morrissey and Marr in the studio (together) once more (honest!)...
Date: 5 Apr 92 20:08:25 GMT
Organization: University of Sussex at Brighton

The design studio, that is.  At least that's what the Melody Maker reports
this week.  (Surprised no-one has posted anything about it yet.  No doubt 500
articles will arrive just after I've posted this one).  Anyway, for those of
you who are interested, here are the details that I can remember:

As you know, The Smiths did their thing on Rough Trade records (unless you're
buying imports which would be on Sire (ha! two can play at the 'import'
ambiguity game -- remember, 'import' for us Brits (and others, no doubt) means
_from_ the USA.  But I digress :-). In fact, due to a cock-up on the contract
front, they were signed to Rough Trade Distribution, which went bust last
year.  Being generous chappies, Morrissey and Marr gave R.T.D. 600,000 quid
(== pounds sterling) for the Smiths back catalogue (which was still not enough
to save R.T.D., sadly).  And now for the exciting bit (well, sort of)...

The pair have "struck a deal" with WEA, which means two important things
[to be read with "Paint a Vulgar Picture" playing gently in the background]:

    1) There will be a compilation album of "The Smiths Greatest Hits"
    (although it will undoubtedly be called something like "Louder Than A
    Hatful of Bombs Won't Listen") to be released this summer (or was it
    autumn? Well, this year, anyway).

    2) All of The Smiths studio albums will be re-released (in chronological
    order) in new packaging (which is why Mozza and Mazza are in the design
    studio).  I can't remember when these are planned for, but I suspect it's
    around the same time as the compilation.

I think that's all the important stuff from the article.

And, as someone else has pointed out, Morrissey should be releasing the single
"We Hate It When Our Friends Become Successful" at the end of this month (in
the U.K. at least).  I heard it at Christmas (when he performed on the Amnesty
International charity-tele-evening-event-type-thing, The Big 30 [that's Three
Oh]) and, in the words of the song itself, "it's really laughable".  And I'll
probably be at the front of the queue to buy it, fool that I am...

        Tim.

Tim Shuttleworth.
timothys@uk.ac.sussex.syma
Xref: sparky alt.music.alternative:2788 rec.radio.noncomm:398
From: ebm@corvair.almaden.ibm.com (Eli Messinger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.radio.noncomm
Subject: Re: Alternative radio stations
Date: 7 Apr 92 04:50:26 GMT
Organization: Pandora's Box

M. COOPER / B. McQUAID...

> 	That isn't what I meant.  I meant that the groups mentioned
> here on r.m.a to which you refer as being all over the CMJ charts
> are in discussions which were not initiated by myself.

Excuse me?  Weren't you the one who brought up My Bloody Valentine
as *the* example of a band that you don't hear on the radio?  No?  Then
weren't you the one who said:

# 	If you think that MBV are a commercial band, then I'm going
# to have to start dropping obscure names.  MBV is a realistic
# example; no station in my vicinity ever plays them, and I'm
# certainly not going to hear Legendary Pink Dots or Samson's Army
# or Eggplant.

It seems to me that all three of your "even more alternative" bands
are all favorites on college radio stations across the country.  Do we
need to go dig the numbers out of CMJ for you again?  Worse yet, the
Legendary Pink Dots, fer shur, are heard on "alternative" (I use
the quotes to make sure we all realize that these stations are not truly
Alternative, or shall we say MiloAlternative) commercial stations around
the lower 48 (I can't speak for Alaska and Hawaii).

Face it Milo, these bands are only obscure in your own, limited knowledge
of the country's radio/music scene.
--
	      "Phish is good."  --James Treworgy, March 18, 1992
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy)
Subject: Re: NIN and MINISTRY news...(?)
Reply-To: fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 13:00:48 GMT


In a previous article, pooh@gacvx1.gac.edu () says:

>-REGARDING NIN - I've tried to keep as up to date as possible...Trent

>	Regarding style, he has said in an article published in SPIN
>	(I'm sure some of you have read it) that he is going for a slightly
>	different sound again.  He says he learned a great deal from touring

Any idea just what this new sound is like?  More 
 guitars?  More synth?  etc?

>	however, that he intends to stick with his idea behind the first
>	project, i.e. to do something different from what other peopl had...

That's a strange idea.  To me, Pretty Hate Machine
 sounds like anything by Die Warzau.  Try the songs
 Welcome to America + Strike to the Body, for example.
-- 
Francis A. Uy
fau@po.cwru.edu
cs201329@umbc5.ubc.edu
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From: spike@world.std.com (Joe Ilacqua)
Subject: Re: Nine Inch Nails
Organization: Software Tool & Die
	<1992Apr14.134630.5881@cis.ohio-state.edu>
	<1992Apr14.144833.23990@cs.mcgill.ca>
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:36:43 GMT


In the article referenced above storm@cs.mcgill.ca (Marc WANDSCHNEIDER) writes:
>And now for more rumours about Trent, a friend of mine from
<Cleveland used to work with Trent's girlfriend, how's that for a
>reliable source of information;-), and informs me that he is, in
<fact, an "asshole".

	Considering the general "theme" of Pretty Hate Machine, one
should not be surprised that he, asshole or not, has former
girlfriends who dislike him.

->Spike
-- 
The Truly K00L don't have signatures.
From: shj@login.dkuug.dk (Stig Jacobsen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: 10,000 Maniacs
Date: 10 Apr 92 23:32:41 GMT
Organization: Asis Electronic Intl., Copenhagen, Denmark

v106lr4h@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric T Sasse) writes:

>   Hey, what's the feeling about this group? 

Happyhappyhappy. Excellent voice and great drums!

>   I recently heard their album "Hope Chest" and was throughly taken! However,
>I also heard the latest 3 albums and hated them

I "discovered" them by watching a live performance on MTV Europe
and was immediately sold on her voice (the dancing didn't do any
harm either..).

Then I went out and bought Hope Chest, The Wishing Chair and
Blind Man's Zoo. I was really disappointed by Hope Chest; I find
her voice on that album quite ordinary and, uh, uninteresting. On
TWC it is somewhat better, but first on Blind Man's Zoo I get the
vocals which I were sold on. I find her voice much more developed
on BMZ; don't know if this is intentional on her part, or just a
natural progression because she's getting older (or perhaps
smoking too much cigarettes; who knows).

>The only other song I heard that even compares to the Hope Chest sound is one
>called "Headstrong", don't remember which album though.

It is from Blind Man's Zoo.
--
Stig Jacobsen                                                   Born confused
shj@login.dkuug.dk                                              Died dazed
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: c9111456@cc.newcastle.edu.au (You can't find justice it'll find you..... (mudhoney))
Subject: Re: Australian bands
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 13:10:57 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.111307.12694@nntp.hut.fi>, s34037k@saha.hut.fi (Marko M{kynen) writes:
> 
> 
> When Meanies will release their first LP?
> 
> What Australian bands will tour Scandinavia next summer.Last summer I saw
> Hard-Ons three times,they are one of funniest bands around.By the way have
> Hard-ons any new singles?
> The Aint's cancelled their gig here Helsinki,what is reason for this??
> Hopefully I will see Hummingbirds someday here in Finland.
> 
> Can someone give me information about Australian single clubs(Waterfront
> /Au-go-go/Rattlesnake etc.etc.)
> 
> -----------------
> marko m{kynen


There is heeps of stuff happening at the moment

The meanies have just released _come and see_ their first LP and is 
is very good. It includes previous singles of _never_ and _scum_
plus a heep of new songs.
I saw them in sydney two weeks ago and they were awesome.
The support band was numbait (an up and comming band that is really awesome)

A band from sydney that has just release a ep is tumble weed.This band 
really grunges and grooves.They have had mark arm from mudhoney produce 
for them in the past.Tummble weed are a break away band from the Proton
Energy Pills. I think Tumble Weed are really going to make it big.

other good bands at the moment are the cosmic psycos -> just released a LP
                                       Mr Floppy
                                       Ward Jane
                                       Smudge
                                       swirl
                                       Hoss
                                       Def fx
                     and heeps more only I can't think of any

I saw the hard ons about a month ago with the celebrate rifles.
I don't really get off on the rifles but I love the hard ons.
(they were awesome at the big day out with Rollins sining with them)
but I personally like there older stuff than what they are doing at the 
moment.

Yarmin Newcastle Australia.

> s34037k@saha.hut.fi





Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jkerenyi@jarthur.claremont.edu (John A. Kerenyi)
Subject: Re: End of the World
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:34:15 GMT

kwelch@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Kevin C. Welch) writes:


>Any one give me impressions of Until the End of the World (sndtrk)?

>Is it worth the money?

>kcw
>--

I've owned this album for quite a while.  It's got quite a mix of different
things, all of them brand-new (or at least new in January).  I got it because
it has the new Talking Heads, Elvis Costello, R.E.M., and Depeche Mode songs
on it, and each of them is worth it.  The rest of the songs are VERY differ-
ent.  The mood common to the whole album is depression, for the most part;
so keep this in mind (I don't mind this at all, though).  There are several
songs on it by artists I never heard of or didn't care for (such as T-Bone
Burnett, Lou Reed, and Julee Cruise).  Basically, I highly recommend this
album, especially if you enjoy having your spirits dampened every now and
then (it's good for that).

jk
From: tclark@Apple.COM (Tom Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: more boston bands
Keywords: pingpong
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:55:02 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <rrbv9INN3u3@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> joneil@heretix.East.Sun.COM writes:
>ok ok so i left out some other boston bands, give me a break!!
>
>just looking to get some of the boston bands i like that don't get
>the flipping press they should. yes yes i know the pixies are from 
>boston. more bands to check out====>
>
>THE MIGHTY MIGHTY BOSSTONES
>THINKTREE
>DOGZILLA
>GANG GREEN
>MISSION OF BURMA
>
>as i said before
>
>HERETIX
>O-POSTIVE
>TRIBE
>
>just go and buy the cd's, let the music do the talking!!
>
>john            "my life is a big blur of fire and ice" 
>oneil

How about:
THE CAVEDOGS
BUFFALO TOM (!!!)
THE NEIGHBORHOODS  (New album soon?)
THE ZULUS (RIP)
THE BAGS (RIP)

I miss the Boston scene!


tcc
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.industrial
From: roscoe@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Larry Allen Roscoe)
Subject: Blasting Negativland (was Re: Nine Inch Nails : - Does anyone care.?)
Originator: roscoe@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: roscoe@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 01:37:50 GMT

From article <1992Apr16.004233.27345@bradley.bradley.edu>, by dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell):
> mcdonghj@unix2.tcd.ie (Nascent Virion.....) writes:
> 
> 
> Of course, the day I hear Negativland blasting from a car stereo on campus
> is the day I drop dead of a heart attack in the middle of University
> Street. =-)
> 
> -- 


Well, until I had me stereo stolen it was great fun to go around blasting
Negativland's "Radio" version of 'I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For'
and see the astonished looks on peoples faces!



-Larry


-- 
Email roscoe@csd4.csd.uwm.edu 

"I really enjoy the TUMMYSIZER(tm)...its the way I like to work out."
	-Quote from some dumb girl I saw on television
From: woj@romulus.rutgers.edu (voy toy)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: REM stuff
Date: 11 Apr 92 04:56:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: the wonderful world of muzak

kwelch@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (BioJerk) writes:
>Could anyone give me any impressions of the following:

>Poets of the Wheat

a two cd set. the first part is from a bbc broadcast that the band did 
last spring. there is a concert from seattle 1984 there as well. i think
the third part is the emptv unplugged show, but i can't rightly recall.

>Animal's Attractions

the audio of the emptv unplugged show from april 91.

>Half A World Away  (Part 1)

a live acoustic set from santa monica's kcrw, fairly fun and goofy 
performance too.

>From the Borderline

two cd set with pretty neat packaging (double-backed jewel box the size
of a single cd box). selected cuts from the borderline shows that rem
performed last spring in london masquerading as bingo handjob. folks 
like billy bragg and robyn hitchcock joined them on stage for a few
songs of the set. fairly decent audience recording.
-- 
woj - frimmin on the jim jam froppin at the krotz - no, *he's* dennis
From: lapete@sage.cc.purdue.edu rom: lapete@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Peter Su)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: ?????????~~~~ SLAM DANCING ~~~~?????????????
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:42:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.45270
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Originator: lapete@sage.cc.purdue.edu


   Hello my fellow alternative music fans:

   This past Friday I had the opportunity to witness an actual scene of
 
                      !!!! SLAM  DANCING  !!!!

at the night club that my union board at the University operates every Friday

nite from 9pm to 1am.  As a junior board v.p. I thought it would be a good

idea to bring a DJ that will spin only 'my favorite kind of music' The Techno

and the Alternative kind!

  This was a first glance of Deep Alternative that the students at this iso-

lated University have ever seen.  Of course there are many of us out there

looking for our way of entertainment to the right kind of music.  The ones

at this Univ. showed up Friday evening during the Alternative & Techno hours

to ?? SLAM DANCE ?? to their favorite stuff.  As a listener to this kind of

music myself I still have gotten deep enough to understand what is the purpose

of jumping on one another to descent music?  If any of you 'more involved'

fans out there care to fill me in on this please E-mail me at my account.

   I am still favoring future shows at the club concentrating only on alter-

natives and technos but other board members and advisors have concerns regard

ing this slam dancing behavior that may get out of hand.

       LET ME KNOW THE ORIGIN OF THIS DANCE AND ITS PURPOSE SOON 'CUS I
     DON'T WANT TO SEE MY KIND OF MUSIC GETS PUSHED ASIDE FOR THOSE ILLOGICAL

     " 2 LEGIT TO QUIT! " STUFF.    PURDUE NEEDS SOME TECHNOS AND THOMSON TWNS

                        SOON!!!!!!!!!
                              
                                                      ---P------
                                                   lapete@sage.cc.purdue.edu
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From: dunl@ellis.uchicago.edu (john  dunlevy)
Subject: 10,000 Maniacs boots?
Reply-To: dunl@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 04:07:44 GMT

Anyone out there have or know of any live 10,000 Maniacs recordings?
Respond by e-mail if ya know anything.

-dunl@midway.uchicago.edu
From: little@bellatrix.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (H. Mark Little)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Violent Femmes
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:38:04 GMT
Reply-To: little@sol.crd.ge.com
Organization: GE Research & Development

In article <5839@charon.cwi.nl>, waal@cwi.nl (Peter de Waal) writes:
|> 
|> Anyhone like to post a complete discography of them? I want to know if my
|> collection is complete.
|> 
|> --- Peter de Waal, CWI, Amsterdam <waal@cwi.nl> ---

Not certain if this is complete, but the only Femmes albums I know of are:

			Violent Femmes
			3
			The Blind Leading the Naked
			Hallowed Ground
			Why Do Birds Sing?

These are, at the least, the only Femmes recordings available on CD (as far as
I know).

Anybody else?
-- 
H. Mark Little                |  "If patience is a virtue,
Consulting at GE-CRD AILab    |     then I guess I'm not very virtuous."
+1 (518) 387-5476             |  - me, when I was about 10, and didn't realize
little@sol.crd.ge.com         |        the connotations of what I had said.
From: grecomv@duvm (Mike)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: The Charlatans/Charlatans U.K.  HELP!
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:38:51 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Apr9.061951.3894@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, tshay@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Timothy B Shay) writes:
> 
> 
> 	Are 'the Charlatans' and 'the Charlatans U.K.' the same band?  I
> see imports marked 'The Charlatans' and I'm not sure if they 
> are the same band.  If so, WHY?  If not, what do the Charlatans sound
> like?

There was already an American band (or a band existing on an american label)
named The Charlatans so when The Charlatans from England tried to get a label
in America, the could not legally use the name "The Charlatans". The english
Band had to use the extension "U.K." for all their material printed in the US.
When you go looking for The Charlatans at your record store, an import would
cary the title "the charlatans" and the domestic would be "the charlatans U.K."
Chances are, you are not going to find any of the older American band "the
 Charlatans " so dont be confused if you think its not the band your looking
for.
Mike  
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From: odwak@fraser.sfu.ca (Hartley Odwak)
Subject: Re: Smiths/Morrissey info needed
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:23:22 GMT

In response to the Smiths questions:

(1) Last I heard the TCM 7" (b/side 'Jeane') was fetching 50 pounds in
the UK... Check lists at the back of NME..

(2) Live Smiths concerts: I have 2 which I would be willing to swap
for something intersting i.e. live Ride, Pale Saints, Swervedriver,
Pixies, Slowdive, Echo & the Bunnymen, Jam, Lush, Teenage Fanclub,
etc...

(3) Unavailable b/sides, other than the ones you listed: 
    - live 'Handsome Devil' (Hand in Glove b/side)
    - Money changes Everything 
    - Live version of 'Some Girls..' on the b/side of some 'Stop Me..'
      foreign singles.
    - A different version of 'Pretty Girls Make Graves" on the b/side
      of some 'Stop Me..' foreign singles.
    - The 'How Soon is Now' New York Mix
    - The version of 'Miserable Lie' on the Peel Sessions recording.
  That's all I can think of right now...

(4) They split before the 'Strangeways' LP came out, so they didn't
tour for the LP.

Hope that helps,

Hartley
  
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