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From: pfferrei@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Ferreira)
Subject: Re: Little League WS semis
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waterloo, Canada
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:14:09 GMT

In article <farenebt.715006883@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri Farenell) writes:
>Since this is rec.sport.BASEBALL, I thought I'd post something on the
>LLWS American championship. The team from Long Beach, CAL beat the team
>
>They will play Santo Domingo, Dominincan Republic who beat the
>Phillipine team.

Are you sure about this?  I heard on the news last night that the 
Phillipines beat the D.R. 5-1....

>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>BRI FARENELL			           GO ADIRONDACK RED WINGS
>CLARKSON '95			         1992 CALDER CUP CHAMPIONS!!
>FARENEBT@CRAFT.CAMP.CLARKSON.EDU   Calder Cup Champs: 1981 1986 1989 1992

+    Paulo F. Ferreira                        + University of Waterloo +  
+ email: pfferrei@undergrad.math.UWaterloo.ca +    Waterloo, Canada    +
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: kettler@oppy.mit.edu (KETTLER, THOMAS R.)
Subject: Re: DAVID CONE TO BLUE JAYS
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: MIT Lab for Nuclear Science
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 23:06:00 GMT

In article <5309@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, psg+@pitt.edu (Paul S Galvanek)           writes...
> 
>1B Dave Magadan 	(Murray signed for only one year didn't he?)

No. This won't happen unless Murray is released or drafted by the Marlins or 
Rockies. After all, it was a two year contract for $7.5 mill with the second 
guaranteed.

					Sincerely yours,

					Thomas R. Kettler "Expos Fanatic"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: sckelm@iastate.edu (Steven C Kelm)
Subject: Re: Twins Protected List
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:11:11 GMT

In article <47114@shamash.cdc.com> jblixt@mips.COM (jon blixt) writes:
>Here is just a trial list of the players IMO the Twins should protect:
>(May not know all the free agents, not extremely familair with farm
> system)
>
>Must:                   Free Agents(?)
>1)  S. Mack             Puckett
>2)  K. Hrbek            Gagne
>3)  C. Knoblauch        Smiley
>4)  S. Leuis            Larkin
>5)  P. Munoz            Davis
>6)  K. Tapani
>7)  S. Erickson
>8)  R. Aguilera

9) Harper
10) Mahomes
11) Trombley

I'm not sure about minor league players either, but 
possibly two are Rich Garces and Alan Newman, although
Newman may not have to be protected.

>Possibles:
>1)  W. Banks 
       - Could be the second coming of West as
         the perpetual prospect
>4)  M. Jorgenson
>5)  C. Willis  
       - Doubtful they will protect him
>6)  M. Guthrie 
       - Probably
>Look at:
>J.T. Bruitt
       - no
>D. Reed
       - depends on the next month
>D. West(PLEASE NO MORE!)
       - I'm amazed he's not been released.  If West
         is one of the top 15 in the organization, then the 
         Twins are in a world of hurt.
>G. Wayne
       - doubtful, based on performances up to this year, plus
         Guthrie is also there for left-handed relief.

>Who did I forget? Comments and suggestions, please.

Tom Edens - depends how many spots are still left.  I would
protect Guthrie before Edens.

Lenny Webster - No
Randy Bush - he may be a free agent.  He won't be protected.
Mike Pagliorulo - no
Jeff Reboullet - no
>-Jon
Analysis of minor league players and Twins options regarding 
them are needed.

Steven Kelm
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From: jlundy@bilbo.encore.com (Joe Lundy)
Subject: Re: Lies, Damn Lies, & Statistics (was Re: The Monthly Cecil Fielder Thread
Organization: Encore Computer Corp.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:41:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.160549.2966@panix.com>, spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira) writes:
|> In <1992Sep03.105123.10657@brtph560.bnr.ca> psycho@brtpa25.bnr.ca (Paul Jezioranski) writes:
|> >	Rudy Fafoofnik: 680 Plate appearances, 1.000 SLG, 1.000 OBP
|> >	
|> >......	but he scored zero runs because he hit 680 two out singles and the guy
|> >	behind him struck out 680 times.
|> 
|> I'm not sure what the point of this example is.

Gee, Greg, when you've got a guy like Dave Rossing hitting in front of Rudy
Fafoofnik, it should be painfully obvious.  That includes the days that the wind
is blowing out at Wrigley.

(should I smiley this or await the onslaught of corrective email?)

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From: anderson@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (anderson peter john)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Cubs Protected 15?????
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:36:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bu0E1A.3vr
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Minor leaguers don't have to be protected as long as they haven't appeared
in the majors.  So Glanville, Turk Wendell etc. are safe.  Though it's not
as if the Cubs have that many minor leaguers they'd need to protect anyway...

--Pete (anderson@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu)
From: barrym@informix.com (Barry Mednick)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Pitchers who hit (again)
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:42:07 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

> My question is, why are pitchers
>always batted last? 
Pitchers do not always bat last.  When Babe Ruth pitched in the
World Series, he hit 6th.  The 9th place hitter was Sam Agnew, the catcher.
Their 1918 stats:
                    BA   Runs      HR       RBI
   Ruth           .300     50      11        66
   Agnew          .166     11       0         6
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From: epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: DAVID CONE TO BLUE JAYS
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:06:32 -0700
Organization: Malaspina College

In article <1992Aug28.110420.2136@merrimack.edu>, desmondw@merrimack.edu writes:
> In article <BtnM7A.Kn5@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>, dmeister@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Darren Meister) writes:
>> In article <1992Aug27.172239.27782@julian.uwo.ca> heartlab@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Heartlab People) writes:
> 
> 
>>>>They'll send Sprague as soon as they get arrangements for a back-up
>>>>catcher.
> 
> The recent word out of Toronto is Gillick will not part with Sprague.
> Knorr will be traded before Sprague. But Pat said the most likely
> player is going to be outfielder Ryan Thompson.

On the game broadcast last night, Gillick said that the player-to-be-
named-later will be a minor leaguer.  I got the impression that there
is some rule or bylaw mandating this.

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Lorne Epp                                               epp@mala.bc.ca
From: hbrooks@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu (Harold_Brooks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Lies, Damn Lies, & Statistics (was Re: The Monthly Cecil Fielder Thread
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:01:53 GMT
Organization: NSSL

In article <1992Sep3.175424.9344@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> 91287041@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes:
>In <1992Sep3.005752.13903@midway.uchicago.edu> nss3@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Noel Steere) writes:
>
>
>>things: The team's on-base percentage (or, how well the team gets on
>>base without making an out), and the team's slugging percentage (or,
>>how well the team moves runners over without making an out).  This
>>works well for any season you can mention; not perfectly, mind you,
>>but well enough to believe that there's a strong correlation between
>>OBP and SLG on the one hand, and scoring runs on the other.
>
>Using the same logic I can tell you that there is a strong corelation
>between RBI's and runs scored...

That statement is completely irrelevant because since we award RBIs
to someone most of the time that a run is scored, RBIs and runs 
independent of each other.  OBP and SLG are both independent of runs 
scored so that you would not expect a high correlation a priori. 

Harold
-- 
Harold Brooks                    hbrooks@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu
National Severe Storms Laboratory/CIMMS (Norman, OK)
Andres Galarraga (Through 2 September)  .242 BA  .376 SLG  .279 OBA
27 H from .300  4 H from .250  8 HBP  9 BB    
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: vince@sscl.uwo.ca
Subject: <None>
Organization: Social Science Computing Laboratory
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 15:15:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep03.105123.10657@brtph560.bnr.ca>, Paul Jezioranski writes:
> In article <1992Sep3.013519.8911@panix.com> Greg Spira writes:
>> Leave us with PAs, SLG, OBP and I'll let you eliminate all the rest.
>> Is that simple enough for you?
>> 
> Sure. Simply idiotic. An example:
> 	Rudy Fafoofnik: 680 Plate appearances, 1.000 SLG, 1.000 OBP
> ......	but he scored zero runs because he hit 680 two out singles
> 	and the guy behind him struck out 680 times.

So you have just proven the argument that you have been trying to refute:
that it is the other players on the team who do most of the work for a
player to get an RBI, unless the man at bat hits a home run. So what you
consider Fielder's most "valuable" statistic is worthless as a measure of
how good a player he is.

Similarly, you have proven that runs scored is also worthless: except for
home runs, players have no direct control over the number of runs that
they score: it's not Fafoofnik's fault that there was no batter behind him.

And here I didn't think that you understood the arguments being made! :-)

P.S.: if Fafoofnik is still playing, I want him for the Expos. NOW!!!

Vince Gray   University of Western Ontario
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From: binkley@epas.utoronto.ca (P. Binkley)
Subject: Re: All Right:  WHO IS JEFF KENT?
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:13:19 GMT
Keywords: Flabbergasted Mets' Fans Demand to Know

The Globe is treating it as gospel that the player to be named is AAA
outfielder Ryan Thompson, and that he will be sent next week.
Thompson hasn't been told anything by management yet.  Gillick is
saying that the Mets will have their choice from a list of minor
leaguers.

There is some restriction on using players on the 25-man roster as
players to be named later, isn't there?  Maybe it cuts in after Sept.
1.  The Jays ran into this a couple of years ago in the Black trade
with Cleveland: a minor league pitcher was sent as the player to be
named, but was puzzled when Cleveland didn't contact him for several
weeks after the season.  He was then traded back to the Jays for
another pitcher who was on the 25-man roster at the end of the season.

Peter Binkley
binkley@epas.utoronto.ca

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From: roger@crux.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig)
Subject: Re: <None>
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: roger@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 05:09:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.221238.817@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_copeab@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>In article <5440@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, genetic+@pitt.edu (Dr. Dave) writes:
>> Thus spake 91287041@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard):

>>>Why not Tabler?  Is 50-102 (or whatever) not a big enough sample size?

>> Exactly.  Especially after you take into account the fact that you're only
>> looking at Tabler because he was the extreme point in a large population of
>> players.  If I toss 200 coins 100 times each, one of them will likely show
>> a very skewed ratio of heads to tails, even if all the coins are fair.

>	From a statistical standpoint, 102 AB is enough in this kind of
>situation for a sample size.

Oh, it's a nice big sample, but will a 2-sample t-test (vs the rest of
his AB) show a significant difference?  Will it do so after you make
a Bonferroni adjustment to the critical points for significance, something
you need to do because you've sifted through hundreds of players, 
hundreds of split-stats to find this one.

Answer: I doubt it.

>	Also, are you saying that it is impossible for someone to be very good
>at one thing, especially if the one thing he is good at he is much better than
>other players?

Well, what's that "thing"?  How does it work?  Why does it only work 
with the bases loaded?  Enquiring minds want to know.

Actually, what w're saying is that he *isn't* necessarily any better.
That the stats don't support the idea that's he's all that much better.

> The same logic you use can be applied to closing pitchers with
>regards to saves vs blown saves.

HuH?  I don't follow.  What logic is that?

(Cynical observation: when someone says, "by the same logic," it's
probably not the same logic.)

Roger
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: niguma@ug.cs.dal.ca (Gordon Niguma)
Subject: Blue Jay Callups
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 11:54:01 GMT

  The Jays have called up Turner Ward (OF), Al Leiter (LHP) and Eddie Zosky
from their farm club in Syracuse. What a boring set of callups!

					Gord Niguma
					(fav player : John Olerud)

Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: sgs@milton.u.washington.edu (Steven Smith)
Subject: Birthdays
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:25:19 GMT

Baseball Birthdays

August 25
Rollie Fingers, 1946 (HOF)
Oddibe McDowell, 1962
Tony "Doxie" Boeckel, 1892
Rich Rudolph, 1887
Bobby Meacham, 1960
Dave Heaverlo, 1950
Pete Redfern, 1954
Choo Choo Coleman, 1937

--Steve
-- 
 sgs@u.washington.edu             * 
 Steve Smith                      * "We want a pitcher, not a belly itcher." 
 University of Washington HR-20   *    			-- Bill Plummer
 Seattle, WA 98195                *
From: bk713@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kimon Zachary)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Red Sox poll?
Date: 30 Aug 92 05:09:44 GMT
Reply-To: bk713@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kimon Zachary)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, gan@igc.apc.org (Global Action Network) says:

>
>I'm polling all of my baseball friends.  Who should the Red Sox
>fire?
>          (a) Butch Hobson
>          (b) Lou Gorman
>          (c) Roving Hitting Instructor Jim Rice
>          (d) Jack Clark's financial advisor
>          (e) Don Zimmer
>          (f) Cito Gaston
>
	>>(g) Rick Burleson  ; (d);


In retro, I think the Sox are the only team in baseball who 
>only need to protect two players, Clemens and Viola, in the 
>upcoming draft.
>
>
I would protect Plantier, too.  Probably Reed.  Wedge.  Maybe Bruno.  Burks?

Series or Cellar, We love our Sox!
>Deane
>
>

-- 
Kimon Zachary			"I stand by all the misstatements that
JHU School of Med.			I've made." --Dan Quayle
Baltimore, MD		
Sign seen at the Republican Convention: Reagan '96
From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Brave fans
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:11:42 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <66893@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt7469a@prism.gatech.EDU (Brian Landmann) writes:
>I'm getting really tired of poor Braves's fans.
>I went to the Braves/Expos game last night and to my disbelief the
>fans were booing Tom Glavine.  I know every city has some poor
>fans but how can you boo a guy who has already won 19 games?


In Philadelhia, the crowd booed Santa Claus when he came on during halftime
of a football game.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Oh Cone-da!
From: Jeff Pierce <JPIERCE@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Friday, 28 Aug 1992 19:27:26 EDT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

Kent's 8 HR came in roughly 187 AB, and they could have him replace Willie
Randolph at 2B.  If he can hit 12-15 HR and do a decent job there, then
continue to improve, then he's better than anyone else that the Mets can
put there.  Donnells hasn't hit much in the majors, Pecota isn't doing much
this year, and Noboa is back in the minors where he belongs.
 
As for the PTBNL, why don't we wait and see who it is before we make any
complete judgments about the trade.  Two years from now, the Blue Jays
fans could be talking about how they were robbed if they can't resign Cone
and the Mets get two players, give up nearly 1 million of their payroll,
and improve themselves for next year (especially if the Brewers or Orioles
manage to catch and pass Toronto).
 
Yes, Cone is a great pitcher, but the man wants a five year contract.  It is
possible that the Mets management has learned from Gooden's injuries the past
two years that it would be foolish to sign a pitcher beyond three years, have
him blow out his arm, shoulder, elbow, or whatever in the first or second
year of the contract, and then pay two or three years of megabucks for a
pitcher spending as much time on as time spent off the DL.  I think it is a
wise move not to resign him if he won't budge on the 3 year limit, and I
will be watching Kent and the other player for the next several years and
then decide who got the best of the trade.
 
                                          Jeff
From: alird@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: mike harkey
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:29:32 GMT
Reply-To: alird@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University

I know Mike harkey missed his last start with a groin problem, does anybody
out there know the extent of his injury or his next start. thanks for the
assistance.

Rick.
From: lkc@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Lee Casuto)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:15:01 GMT
Subject: Re: Atlanta Braves win streaks
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball

In rec.sport.baseball, rcbi105@muvms3.bitnet (Matt Leary) writes:

> In article <14308@mindlink.bc.ca>, Edward_Lunny@mindlink.bc.ca (Edward Lunny) writes:
> > How come the braves have so many streaks? Is it the pitching or do people just
> > get hot?
> 
> Both.  But, you can't win without good pitching.  The Braves will win it all.

The Braves have definitely gotten both, but I think Liebrandt (sp) has been
pitching beyond his normal abilities.  Fortunately for the Braves, I 
think they could lose the rest of his games and still take it all.  However,
a lot of the Reds are off the DL.  If there's any faltering, I think 
the Braves could be caught.

l\
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From: king@ssvax.gte.com (Larry King)
Subject: Toronto/Milwaukee box score (22-2)
Organization: GTE/SCSD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:22:32 GMT

The Boston Globe did not list the box score for the 22-2 thrashing
Milwaukee handed Toronto on Friday.  Does anyone have this score.
Thanks...

Some interesting points to that game were mentioned in the Sunday Globe.

1) Listach had 4 hits before Toronto had 3.
2) Milwaukee had 31 hits, 26 singles, 4 doubles, and only 1 home run.
3) Milwaukee had 26 singles in the game, 4 more that Deer had for the
   season at that point.
4) The Chicago Cubs are 1 and 1 in games in which they scored 20 or more
   runs.  They lost to the Phillies 23-22.

--
Larry King
GTE Government Systems, Needham, MA    		(617) 455-3384 
E-Mail : king%ssvax.dnet@get.com
From: curve@netcom.com (My Name is Your Fate)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: RC/27 for RFs
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:26:01 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

>Jose Canseco, Oakland		5.66
>Ruben Sierra, Texas		5.57


See, maybe the Canseco trade wasn't so bad after all   ;)



Curve@netcom.com	|  What is the difference between apathy and ignorance?
			|  I don't know, and I don't care!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: rrodabau@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ronald D Rodabaugh)
Subject: Trading Deadline
Followup-To: rec.sport.baseball
Summary: Player must clear waivers
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 05:21:32 GMT

    This is in response to a question posed: What good is the trading deadline 
if teams like the Blue Jays can acquire a pitcher like David Cone after the 
deadline?
    The answer: Before the deadline, a player may be traded from one team to 
another without involvement from other teams. In short, the transaction is 
closed.
     After the deadline, though, each player that a team wishes to trade must 
clear waivers. This is a particularly dangerous proposition, for any player 
placed on a waivers list is fair game to be picked up by any other team in the 
league, with half of the player's salary being paid by the team he was placed 
on waivers by.
    So, David Cone had to clear waivers before he could be traded to the Blue 
Jays. I believe that clearing waivers also relieves the team being traded from 
from financial responsibility.
     How, one may ask, can a pitcher of David Cone's ability possibly clear 
waivers? Well, the process has become heavily politicized, with GM's operating 
under the agreement of "I won't snatch your player if you won't snatch mine."

     BTW, for you Reds fans, Greg Swindell has cleared waivers. It appears 
Cincinnati does not feel optimistic about their chances to re-sign him after 
the season conclludes. I would look for them to trade him if their chances of 
winning the division are diminished beyond hope.

Go Reds! Go Buckeyes! Go Browns!
David Rodabaugh                  rrodabau@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Senior, Mechanical Engineering
The Ohio State University
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Oh Cone-da!
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 18:09:38 GMT

In article <oebZIiq00WBM03IPwS@andrew.cmu.edu> jm50+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jason Piers McDonald) writes:
>On the Cone trade:
>
>    You'd think for that a pitcher of Cone's caliber, the Mets could
>have got something closer to what the Jays were offering California for
>Jim Abbott (OF Derek Bell, C Ed Sprague, P Todd Stottlemyre, and
>low-level minor leaguers). Of course the fact that Cone is done after
>the season does lower his value, but Jeff Kent and a keg of Molson?

3 1/6 years of Abbott >>>>> 1/6 year of Cone.  Besides, Abbott is not quite
in his prime age yet.
>
>    Besides, I somehow doubt that Cone will re-up with the Jays --
>Canadian teams just don't seem to be all that popular with top-flight
>free agents. 

The Canadian teams, during the past two years, have signed:

Jack Morris
Dave Winfield
Dennis Martinez

and a couple minor ones.

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: tomscud@ruf.rice.edu (Thomas Reid Scudder)
Subject: Re: OH! Sherri won't like this. (Re: Sierra to be traded?)
Organization: Rice University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 03:06:35 GMT

In article <21011@optima.cs.arizona.edu> dkl@cs.arizona.edu (David K. Lowenthal) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.155606.17989@adobe.com> snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) writes:
>>
>>This is an awesome trade, an unbelievable trade.  If the Pirates can pull
>>this off, I'll be ecstatic.  It's an incredible steal.  Ruben Sierra is
>>only 26 (that's only 2 years older than Carlos Garcia
>
>What I want to say:
>
>  What a JOKE.  There is no way the Rangers will trade Sierra for a
>pretty good prospect.  It would need to be much more.  Come on, don't
>suggest silly trades (I know Gammons said it, but he is a dork anyways)
>
>What I have to admit:
>
>  If Tom House has been allowed to stay around so long, anything is possible
>  with a stupid team.
>
>--dave
>
>
>
Actually, it isn't THAT stupid.  After all, it's better to get a prospect than
a draft pick, and if Texas is convinced they won't be able to sign Sierra, they
had better get SOMETHING for him.

Tom Scudder
tomscud@ruf.rice.edu


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