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Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: This Weekend
From: moselecw@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (C.W. Moseley)
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:41:59 +1200
 <MUFFY.92Sep1141244@remarque.berkeley.edu> <1992Sep5.153755.8612@HQ.Ileaf.COM>
Distribution: world
Organization: Electrical Engineering, University of Canterbury, New Zealand

mhk@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Mark Kaepplein x1517) writes:
> I seem to collect nice women too. I'm starting to think of it as a
> problem.
(predictable response #on) man, I wish I had that problem. (#off)

maybe, try to work this into them introducing you to their nice male
friends??

> I go with my roommates to Indigo (popular women's bar in Boston) and
> realize that I know 17 out of perhaps 80 women in the bar, probably
> more than anybody else.

(heh heh) do you know charlene swift? just got back from New Zealand?? Long
time Boston person, i beleive. if so, say Hi, and please please please try
to get me an e-contact with her. (grovel)
If you do know her, meeting nice men should not be a problem! ;-)

> sigh.
*hug*

*love* & *hugs*
  ____MOZ___
 /\  _______\   (moselecw@elec.canterbury.ac.nz)
 \ \ \____  /             I've been stripped bare and nobody cares
  \ \ \/ / /     all the people I looked up to are no longer there
   \ \/ / /           I've been filled up with useless information
    \  / /                 spewed out by papers and radio stations
     \/_/            I've been waiting for tomorrow all of my life
  excerpted from the album `soulmining', by Matt Johnson (THE THE)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Bi space
From: pallisj@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (J. Pallister)
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:29:56 +1200
Distribution: world
Organization: Electrical Engineering, University of Canterbury, New Zealand

In article <1992Sep5.104923.558@esvax.avnet.com>, liz@fruit-and-fibre.ai.mit.edu (Liz A. Highleyman) writes:
> 
> Can there even *be* bi space that is welcoming to all bis?
> 
> Gay men, lesbians, and heterosexuals at least have sexual
> orientation in common.  You can presume in a gay context
> that your same-sex attractions will be accepted.  Bisexuals
> do not have that commonality; some prefer the same sex,
> some prefer the opposite sex, and some are right in the
> middle.  You cannot presume that you will be accepted in
> a bisexual context if the bisexuals in questions to not
> have the same kind of preferences as you.
> 

This is something that has worried me. I'm still trying to sort out
exactly where I stand, but I sometimes wonder whether I would be accepted
by our local bi community (insofar as I have identified it) as being
"really" bisexual if my understanding of the term is different to theirs.

It seems to me that if I was coming out as gay, then the "commonality"
that Liz refers to, that knowledge that these people are all like you,
would be a great help... (I hope I've made myself clear... :-) ) I
guess I can call myself whatever I like, but it would be nice to be
sure that you were going to be accepted for what you (think you) are.

But I think I'll worry about that when I figure out what I am (or what
I'll allow myself to be...). Moz is taking me to the local bi group
meeting next week, so we'll see what happens...

It's all rather complicated really, but that's what you get for trying
to interact with other people. No wonder I'm such an introvert! :-)

Cheers, 

John P

P.S Discovering this group has been really helpful, not to mention
fun! Thanks for all the positive energy & information! *multicast-hug*
Hopefully I can start to return the favour, as soon as I think of
something intelligent to say...

> 
> -Liz
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Liz A. Highleyman                     MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab
> liz@ai.mit.edu                        Cambridge, MA  02139
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: sr09@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (SIMON NICHOLAS RUSSELL)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Disturbed
Date: 12 Sep 92 20:22:51 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


>...Henri III of France is a gentleman I've always found fascinating.  ANy
>sources you find on him would be much appreciated.  All I've seen or read
>was the Erlanger biography and odds and ends in books about Catherine de
>Medici.

>Namaste,
>Elizabeth
>
Alright.  You asked for it.  A guy called Thomas Artus wrote an attack on the
court of Henri III during the 1560s.  The citation:
Artus, Thomas.  _Description de l'isle des Hermaphrodites novellement
    decouverte_.  Paris: 1605, rpt.  Cologne [Brussels]: H. Demen, 1724.

Now, do I get the prize for the "Most Obscure Reference," or what?

Simon.
-- 

***************************************************************************
* Simon Morgan-Russell    "I love to lie o' both sides o' th' bed myself" *
* SR09@LEHIGH.EDU          Middleton & Dekker's "The Roaring Girl" (1608) *
***************************************************************************
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden)
Subject: Re: Disturbed
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 08:29:13 EDT

kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey) writes:

> >                      ^^^^
> >And what about fucking in a space shuttle? Or an Apollo capsule?
> 
> No opportunity; although there are two married astronaut couples, they
> are always split up among flights.  NASA goes out of their way to prevent
> anything like that happening, and I am told that the medical monitoring
> folks would probably scream their heads off if anyone tried it.  Sigh.
> 


Isn't it just a matter of time?  Someday Big Brother will disappear, or 
stop looking, or start encouraging, or change its mind?

Namaste,
Elizabeth

Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: the "oh" experience
Date: 7 Sep 92 06:09:02 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

dfavor@logan.tivoli.com (David Favor) writes:

>perhaps we all gravitate to cities just to listen to each other's particular
>noise. 

Kinda like the way it used to be in the caves, you mean? :-)

--
Stef                 In the force if Yoda's so strong, construct a 
stef@apple.com       sentence with words in the proper order then 
                     why can't he?                         /fortune
From: mlloyd@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Lloyd)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: whatever . . .
Date: 12 Sep 92 08:24:01 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <25767@castle.ed.ac.uk> sara@castle.ed.ac.uk (Swamp Thing) writes:
>mlloyd@sor-2.stern.nyu.edu (Mike Lloyd) writes:
[garble deleted]
>Yes, dear, that's very interesting ...
>	>{8-)

*sheepish*grin*  Sorry 'bout that.  I have >no< >idea< how the right-hand
half of a header from comp.binaries.mac got exchanged for my post ...
I do know xrn core-dumped in the ensuing clean-up, but it just seems
to do that to me.  Ever had that feeling of being the most knowlegeable
person on a system, while not having a clue about it ... ?

Anyhow, I think this thread has passed it's Use By date, so it was
almost certainly better off without whatever got trashed.

Ho hum
Mike, the apologetically confused
-- 
Mike Lloyd                         | B0/1 h- f- t w- c g+ k(+) s m- e? 
Retro-hippy, music nut, bi and     | "The Trouble with Normal is it
owner of a one-track mind:         |  Always Gets Worse" - Bruce Cockburn
   "thesis .. thesis .. thesis"    |    (-:   F**k Your Gender!  :-)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: euclid@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Stephanie Moore-Fuller)
Subject: Re: greetings from a muffin
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 01:19:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.185430.1642@cbnews.cb.att.com> eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (eleanor.j.evans) writes:
>Welcome!  Greatings from a recent-de-muffin, also half-baked....
>
>Oh, and most important--*HUGS*.
>
>Eleanor


Thanks to you and to all the folks who sent me email & ehugs (?)

Hopefully those of us who are half-baked won't give anyone a stomach
ache.....

stephanie

Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: cjohnson@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Coe Salzgeber)
Subject: Re: women who dress up as men
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 01:16:29 GMT
Organization: Cow Poly, San Luis Obispo, CA
Distribution: inet

kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey) said...
>In article <18mb05INN4bg@network.ucsd.edu> valerie@ucsd.edu (Valerie E. Polichar) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep2.011139.27409@u.washington.edu>, wadlow@bela.music.washington.edu (John Wadlow) writes:
>>> It was interesting  
>>> and funny that all the women were wearing fake mustaches and some even had  
>>> beards...  but some of them were actually sort of cute  
>>> wearing that fuzzy stuff right under their noses :)
>>
>>Hey  ---  I look /great/ in a mustache.
>>
>>Still very very female, but great nonetheless.
>>
>>de-muffin post alert!  Hugs requested!!

Hi Valerie!
Happy demuffining! *hug* *snuggle*

>Hug!  Hug!  Hug!
>Definitely lots of hugs, but no kisses.  Don't want to disturb the cute
>moustache.
>--scott

This reminds me again (think it came up here once before) of the scene in 
9 1/2 Weeks, where Kim Basinger is dressed in drag, down to the underwear.
At first, she looked pretty convincing, like a young-ish student.
She had on a mustache, which caused amusement when their kissing caused it
to start falling off.  Quite an adorable scene :^)

*more hugs*
-Coe
-- 
cjohnson@nyx.calpoly.edu
From: tal@plts.uucp (Tom Limoncelli)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Me?  Visit Chicago?
Date: 15 Sep 1992 22:44:24 -0400
Organization: P.L.T.S., North Plainfield, New Jersey, USA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: plts.uucp

I might be in Chigaco in 2 months.  I wonder if anyone out there
would be willing to put Laura and I up for a couple days.

HINT HINT HINT :-)

Tom
-- 
Tom Limoncelli -- tal@plts.uucp (home) -- tal@warren.mentorg.com (work)
"Families should be more like the Waltons instead of the Simpsons" -G. Bush;
"But we *are* like the Waltons: we're waiting for the Depression to end,
too!" -B. Simpson 8/20;    S7/2 b+ g l+ y z- n++ o++ x++ a-- u+ v+ j+ PIG8/5
From: Drakon@cup.portal.com (HARRY BENJAMIN GIBSON)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Books to read
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 12:44:07 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Well welcome aboard.

<*HUGS*>

I would very much like to hear more about the Parents and Homesexuals book.
I haven't told my mother yet basically because I know its going to be rough.

Once again welcome to soc.bi


Ben Gibson
From: IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Ailsa N.T. Murphy)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: TV-TS Newsgroup?
Date: 6 Sep 92 01:25:27 GMT
 <9209050232.AA00422@moeng2.morgan.edu>
Organization: University of Maine System

well, i'd love to see this group exist.  we would get it for
our BBS so my exhusband could read it...  and i'll definitely
vote in favor if i see the CFV.  might even read it myself...

                                         -ailsa
From: STella@thelema.uucp (STella)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Thank You, Charles and Janice was Geraldo
Date: 14 Sep 92 00:27:12 GMT
Organization: Idiosyncratic Anarchic Order

If wjr has re-enabled the cancel command, you only see one copy of
this.  If not, oooooops.

In article <BuI616.9Az@unix.amherst.edu> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>In article <37735@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> jclark@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (John Clark) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep5.025846.6728@fivenine.apple.com> haynes@fivenine.apple.com writes:
>>+The Geraldo show on Bisexuality with me, my sweetie, Lorraine
>>+Hutchins, and that-slime-Tom-Smith, will be broadcast on Friday
>>+September 11th.

>>I'm not convinced that going on 'Geraldo' is a great way to present
>>alternative life styles.

>Probably not.  As long as he's doing a show on bisexuality, though, we
>might as well get as many good people on as we can, just so he doesn't
>use the dregs of humanity for his subjects.  "Damage control," Robyn
>Ochs called it.

I was pretty sure even as I read the first word that the show was
looking for guests that what they wanted was sensation, scandal,
RATINGS.  And Charles and Janice did a WONDERFUL job of playing
good-cop/bad-cop, with Charles pushing and Janice making it very clear
that she was a very private, differently-conservative, person.  No,
who we fuck isn't relevant.  No, it's none of your business whether I
have a girlfriend now.  Yes, it's important for us to be more honest
with each other than that-slime-Tom-Smith is with his wife, than one
of the other guests's husband was with her.  Sweet-and-sour pork from
Charles and Janice.  (If I've gotten "Marie" and "Jane" confused,
oops.)

I mean, what kind of person would GO on Geraldo, anyway....  Once in a
while, when the program's planning to build a show on bisexuals around
that-slime-Tom-Smith. I hope that the kind of person Janice and
Charles are will be there, to make me proud to have them speak for me.

Thank you both, dear ones.  I'd expected that you'd do great, and you
surprised me even so.  Y'all done FABULOUS!

STella@xanadu.com	1016 E. El Camino Real, #302, Sunnyvale, CA 94087
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Subject: Re: women who dress up as men
Followup-To: soc.bi
Originator: lunde@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Reply-To: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks
Distribution: inet
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:07:22 GMT

In article <18mb05INN4bg@network.ucsd.edu> 
 valerie@ucsd.edu (Valerie E. Polichar) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.011139.27409@u.washington.edu>, 
 wadlow@bela.music.washington.edu (John Wadlow) writes:
>> It was interesting  
>> and funny that all the women were wearing fake mustaches and some even had  
>> beards...  but some of them were actually sort of cute  
>> wearing that fuzzy stuff right under their noses :)
>
>Hey  ---  I look /great/ in a mustache.
>
>Still very very female, but great nonetheless.
>
>-Valerie-
>de-muffin post alert!  Hugs requested!!
*hug*hug* *hugity* *hug*

  HH    HH    UU     UU     GGGGG
  HH    HH    UU     UU    GG   GG
  HHHHHHHH    UU     UU    GG    
  HH    HH    UU     UU    GG  GGG
  HH    HH     UUUUUUU      GGGGG

>(Hmm... de-muffining... pretty silly... I've been "out" on the net for over
> 10 years now.  giggle.  But don't tell!  I want all those hugs :-)  )

Well, I hope you can be silly here...

-- 
 Albert Lunde         | Interfaith  |     *Y*Y*      "A branch on the
 Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu |  Bisexual   |      *Y*        tree of life"
 alunde@nuacvm.bitnet |  Feminist   |.......|.........................
From: jclark@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (John Clark)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Lovely things found in my mailbox
Date: 11 Sep 92 01:57:47 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Sep9.145538.6983@midway.uchicago.edu> h431@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
+economic.  Libertarians are pro-social, pro-economic, "populists"
+(and they must be thinking of Huey Long or Gerald L.K. Smith) are anti-
+social, anti-economic.

Then there's Chomsky.
-- 

John Clark
jclark@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden)
Subject: Re: whatever . . .
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 08:39:07 EDT

mlloyd@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Lloyd) writes:

> So I see nothing provocative in Ellen's observation - I even suspect
> it's true.  I also (naively) hope that most of this storm was just
> stirred up by Eric's poor phraseology.  In the hope that that is
> true, I offer e-hugs to any participants who want them, be they
> in hot-tubs suffering from societal gender hangups or not.

Yeah, take a few e-hugs from me, too.  I never quite understood this 
thread, though I could see that some people were getting upset by it.  
Personally, I'd have to do a lot of in-depth study in hot tubs with 
various demographic components to figure out who would "naturally" 
interact with whom and how....

> 
> Mike, somewhat bemused by the whole thing
> 
Me, I'm bemused, confused, amused and defused by the whole thing....

> 
> 
> Mike Lloyd, retro hippy, blah blah .. rest of .sig lost in cocktail
> of lethargy and ether
> 


Ether?  What kind of drug is that?

Namaste,
Elizabeth

Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver)
Subject: Re: Disturbed
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 01:13:48 GMT

 kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov ( Scott Dorsey) writes:
>In article <iw.715973411@tosser> iw@tosser.Rational.COM (Sults) writes:
>>An innocent question - what exactly counts as membership to the Mile 
>>High Club.
>
>Commercial airliners count, I would imagine.  Do we get extra credit
>for biplanes?  (And no, it wasn't worth it and I won't do it again).

I hope commercial 'planes count: or I must retract my claim. I think one
gets extra credit for biplanes if one is stunting on the roof... with free
membership of the Dangerous Sports Club |-)

Also for parachuting/parascending etc |-). Though I don't believe Simon
McLeish when he says it's possible while hangliding. Merry's hanglider, at
least, does not have gimbals and an autopilot!

Tanaqui

Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: euclid@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Stephanie Moore-Fuller)
Subject: Re: whatever . . .
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 02:37:17 GMT


In article <iw.716170611@tosser  iw@tosser.Rational.COM (Sults) writes:

> And of course, sweetie, you are quite right.  All women do when we
> are in bed together is hold hands and stare lovingly into each others
> eyes, though occasionally, we might get around to a little bit of
> stroking and ever so gentle caressing.  Of course being the gentler
> sex we never wrestle with each other or pin each other down.
> We never fuck each other till our brains spill on the floor, with fists,
> dildos, even bigger dildos or what ever else comes to hand.
>
>
> Iseult.



What a wonderful image -- it's enough to make one close one's eyes
and shiver.

And of course women would _never_ tie each other down, or use nipple
clamps, or talk 'dirty' to each other, or spank each other till the
skin is glowing gently.......

stephanie

Newsgroups: soc.bi,alt.polyamory
From: zzaascd@meehpa.ee.man.ac.uk (Colin Dente)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Appreciate Chocolate Now and Avoid the Rush!
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:47:05 GMT
Reply-To: colin@manchester.ac.uk
Organization: Department of Electrical Engineering, University of Manchester

In article <Bu1u96.73r@newcastle.ac.uk>, J.W.Harley@newcastle.ac.uk (Jon Harley) writes:

|> //jon
|> (who knows how old Peter will be tomorrow but could be bribed not to tell)

Ahh, but could you be bribed *to* tell?

Name your price - the more depraved the better <evil, lecherous, 
George-Bush-wouldn't-like-this sort of grin>

Colin
  Colin Dente                     | JANET: dente@uk.ac.manchester
  Manchester Computing Centre     | ARPA:  dente@manchester.ac.uk
  University of Manchester, UK    | UUCP:  ...!mcsun!ukc!manchester!dente
   ... Blatantly Bisexual ...     | B3/4 f+ c g+(+) k(+) r s
From: eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (eleanor.j.evans)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Colin's Beard
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:11:58 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <18352@acorn.co.uk> osmith@acorn.co.uk (Owen Smith) writes:
>In article <memo.611825@cix.compulink.co.uk> cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk
>(Clive Grace) writes:
>
>>Like a true Englishman, I'm at my best with frost-reddened cheeks and
>>someone warm to snuggle next to on a cold Autumn or Winter's day.

Mmm, I love fall.  Always have, ever since I got my first windbreaker--
blue cotton with a red plaid lining--and skipped along the road sniffing
the breeze and kicking leaves.

>
>Snow in Cambridge is a problem though. As soon as these southerners see 
>more than three flakes of snow they panic and the road system grinds to a

Southerners!!  In Cambridge!!  What are ..... oh.  _That_ Cambridge.
Sorry.  <sheepish grin, quick exit>

Hugs--
Eleanor
From: sara@castle.ed.ac.uk (Swamp Thing)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: whatever . . .
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:29:02 GMT
Organization: News Addicts

zzaascd@meehpa.ee.man.ac.uk (Colin Dente) writes:

>In article <25767@castle.ed.ac.uk>, sara@castle.ed.ac.uk (Swamp Thing) writes:

>|> 	>{8-)

>It just struck me that anyone reading your smiley the "right way" up would
>probably conclude that you were very unhappy, had an up-turned moustache,
>wore glasses, and had a propellor beanie on.

That is the *wrong* way up!  (Thinks: drat!  He's sussed my alter ego
...)

Sara >{8-) (-8}<
-- 
 >{8-)     Sara Hopkins     (-8}<              _____^__
 Geography Dept.  Edinburgh Uni.  Drummond St. \ OOO/ / The Thing
 Edinburgh,  EH8  9XP,  UK. +44 (0/31) 650 2662 \++/ /   From
 >{8-) sara@geovax.ed.ac.uk (-8}<   ** nice **   \/\/ The Swamp
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Bi pamphlet - enough already! 8->
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 22:16:03 GMT

In article <25614@castle.ed.ac.uk> sara@castle.ed.ac.uk (Swamp Thing) writes:
>Bi all means; what would I want to be doing in a dreadful place like
>London anyway?

I'm told you get good <pizza> here.  Anyway, isn't there some sort
of bi conference coming up here soon?

G
-- 
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid)
Subject: Re: Guardian Norwich article
Organization: Eris's Restaurant
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:39:30 GMT

In article <RTwyqB9w165w@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca> panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden) writes:
>idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid) writes:
>> UK BiCon (Nottingham, next year) so that she could see for herself what
>> nice people we are?
>Can I come too?

Yes! *yes*! *YES*!  It's a long way to come, but you'd be most welcome
if you could.

				Kay
-- 
6'2", dark short hair, blue eyes, bisexual and horny as ....
Kay Dekker, Dept of Industrial Design, Coventry University, Coventry UK
37 Old Winnings Road, Keresley Village, Coventry   |B0 f t+ g++ k++! s+ e r p!
Phone: +44 203 838668 (work) +44 203 337865 (home) |Deflowerer-of-innocents