HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Larry.Loiselle@f35.n382.z1.FidoNet.Org (Larry Loiselle)
Newsgroups: tx.jobs
Subject: Applicant Bank
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:35:04 GMT

The  Texas  Education  Agency  has  embarked  on  an   aggressive recruitment  program  in  order  to  reach  the broadest possible population.  In order to accomplish this mission, the agency will be    posting   its  job  vacancies  with  the  Texas  Employment Commission,  Governor's  Office  Of  Personnel/EEO,  the   twenty Education  Service  Centers, Tenet, FidoNet, EchoNet, UseNet, and KesherNet.  We are an  Equal  Employment  Opportunity/Affirmative Action Employer.

Benefits:  Full  State  benefit  package  including health, life,dental, and accident insurance; retirement; TexFlex (tax deferred benefit    payments);    Deferred   Compensation;  Tax  Sheltered Annuities; annual leave; and sick leave.  Also, we  pay  part  of your  share  of  Social  Security  (5.85% of the first $16,500 of salary - $965.25 maximum).

Starting  Salary:  Paraprofessionals  -  range  from  $16,404  to $28,488;  Technical - range from $21,192 to $49,860; Professional - range from $21,192 to $49,860; Managerial - range from  $34,716 to $57,000; and Executive - $63,000 to $80,500.

We  are  in the process of developing a comprehensive recruitment data bank.  If you are a professional organization that  provides a  job  annoucement  service  to  your  members  or an individual potentially interested in employment  with  the  Texas  Education Agency,  please  contact:  Texas Education Agency; Mr.  Harvester Pope; Division Of Human Resources; 1701  North  Congress  Avenue;Austin, Texas 78701; Tel: (512) 463-9139.

If you are sending a resume in lieu of our  standard  application form,  we  will need your assistance in obtaining some additional information (since this information will  not  be  part  of  your application,  please include this information on a separate sheet of paper).  This information will be held  strictly  confidential and in no way affects you as an individual applicant.  It will be used only to find out how effective our recruitment  efforts  are in  reaching  all  segments  of the population, i



n validating our selection methods, and for EEO reporting  purposes  according  to State/Federal laws, rules, and regulations:

  Date, Name, Address, Social Security  Number,   Birth   Date,
  Male/Female,  Race  (White,  Black,  Hispanic,  Asian/Pacific
  Islander, or American Indian), Disability (Yes/No - Nature of
  Disability), Veteran ( disabled -  Yes/No  -  dates/branch of
  Service), and where did you see this recruitment notice:  BBS
  Network (i.e. Fido) & (Echo i.e. Jobs Now),  posted notice at
  "XX" organization), or whatever source.

We sincerely appreciate your interest and  cooperation  ...   and are looking forward to hearing from you in the near future.


 * Origin: The Messenger [(512) 443-4702] Austin, TX (1:382/35)
From: Larry.Loiselle@f35.n382.z1.FidoNet.Org (Larry Loiselle)
Newsgroups: tx.jobs
Subject: 3738 (Director of Bilingual Education)
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:53:48 GMT

JOB VACANCY NOTICE (No. 3738)
Texas Education Agency
Division Director
Division of Bilingual Education and Special Language Instruction

This position has been filled.  Thank you for your interest.

 * Origin: The Messenger [(512) 443-4702] Austin, TX (1:382/35)
From: Harry.Skelton@f10.n382.z1.FidoNet.Org (Harry Skelton)
Newsgroups: tx.jobs
Subject: Re: looking for summer job in Dallas or Austin area
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:26:32 GMT

Joel, Please send a copy of your resume to:

 

Bear Necessities

9702 Anderson Village Drive

Austin, Texas 78729-2701

 

I have a database programming position available and welcome your resume 
as application to the position. The job is working for a well known 
Austin company (Health Care). It will involve working with FoxPro with 
possible conversion to Informix in the latter half of the season.

 

Thanks,

Harry Skelton


 * Origin: Connect America #8, Austin, Tx, 512-459-3351 (1:382/10.0)
From: ccc_spt@waikato.ac.nz (Simon Travaglia)
Newsgroups: nz.netstatus
Subject: partial network outage
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:06:16 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato Computer Centre

			PARTIAl NETWORK OUTAGE

There is a scheduled power down of the Goddard Space Flight Center PSCN
Gateway for scheduled NASA Facilities maintenance on the chilled water
system.

The activity is scheduled to commence on Saturday 4/11/92 from 10:00 to
21:00 UTC.

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	  This time, CONVERTED to NZ TIME is:  10PM until 9AM
		     on the 11th - 12th of April. 
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Connectivity to the following sites via The NASA Science Internet will
be interrupted by this activity:

		Goddard Space Flight Center
		Lewis Research Center
		The University of Miami
		NASA Wallops Flight Facility
		The National Geodetic Survey, Rockville, MD
		Cobe Offsite Facility
		The Naval Research Laboratories
		College of Charleston
		Sondrestrom Incoherent Scatter Radar Facility 
		Center for Radiophysics and Space Research
		Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory
		World Weather Building
		Langley Research Center
		Hampden-Sydney College
		Loral Aerospace 
		ST Systems Corporation
		Space Telescope Science Institute
		Computer Sciences Corporation
		Air Force Geophysical Laboratory
		Carnegie Institute in Washington
		Goddard Institute for Space Studies
		Science Research Associates
		NASA Center for AeroSpace Information
		Pennsylvania State University
		Service Argos Incorporated
		University of Rhode Island
		Institute for Space and Terrestrial Science
		Comsat Labs
		Military College of South Carolina
		Rutherford-Appleton Laboratories
		University of London Computing Center
		Oxford University
		Scientific and Technical Information Program Management Office
		Government Systems Incorporated
		NASA Headquarters
		University Space Research Associates
		American Geophysical Union, Washinton DC
		American Astronomical Society, Washington DC 


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Newsgroups: nz.general
From: Linton.Miller@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Linton Miller)
Subject: Re: Fwd'd Re: Job Opportunity
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 06:38:56 GMT

banksie@khantazi.welly.gen.nz (Philip R. Banks) writes:
> The only good kind of discrimination is *no* discrimination.
[...]
> The sooner we start forgetting about gender,race or colour and start
> seeing people as *people* the better.

Well said Philip. I concur entirely. This is the key to it all. Until this
happens, we're not going anywhere, and the bitterness that already abounds
will continue.

---
Linton Miller (lmiller@comp.vuw.ac.nz)    
Department of Computer Science		  
Victoria University of Wellington	  
Wellington, New Zealand			  
Newsgroups: nz.general,nz.wanted,soc.net-people
From: shedevil@vix.com (Anne P. Mitchell)
Subject: Re: Can Someone Help Get A Message to a NZ'er for Me?
Organization: Fathers' Rights & Equality Exchange
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 03:21:13 GMT

In a recent missive jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) tells us:
*shedevil@vix.com (Anne P. Mitchell) writes:
*
*> Hi...
*> 
*> I inherited a book from my father when he passed away which has a
*> lovely inscription on the flyleaf...it is inscribed to my father from
*> someone who apparently knew him and had a friendship with him. 
*> 
*> I would like to get in contact with this fellow...the bottom of the
*> inscription says:
* 
* Annie,
* 
* What is the name of the Book?


Jon,

The name of the book is _Stones for Ibarra_ , why? :-)

-- 
    LOOKING FOR: Michael Hobson, Alex Craven, David Runyon, & Lorna Taylor
I am: Anne Mitchell, mom, law student, shedevil@leland.stanford.edu or @vix.com
     	  founder of FREE, the Fathers Rights and Equality Exchange.
 The fathers' rights paper & FREE files available via ftp: gw.home.vix.com;/pub
From: wilcke@tornado.welly.gen.nz (John Nash)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: machine phone calls
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 15:50:34 +1200
Organization: Tornado BBS, Wellington, New Zealand.

Gavin.Flower@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Gavin Flower) writes:

>  I think such machines should be banned!
>  
>  Gavin
>  -- 

I agree. I got one from that radio station right in the middle of a very
interesting item on TV-3's news. It really p---ed me off. I missed the
item completely. There should be a way for Telecom to make them take your 
number off their list or publish a list of numbers that have complained
and prohibit them from calling at any time.
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: getting off mailing lists
From: mdh@gaya.gp.co.nz (Martin D. Hunt)
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:09:21 +1200
 <1992Apr4.160158.1737@gaya.gp.co.nz> <1992Apr8.054705.20878@comp.vuw.ac.nz>
Organization: Wellington, New Zealand

In article <1992Apr8.054705.20878@comp.vuw.ac.nz>, Martin.Ehrenstein@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Martin Ehrenstein) writes:
> 
> I actually got the name from some junk mail from Time-Life (NZ) Pty Ltd,
> Incorporated in Australia [why would that be?!], PO Box 30445, Lower Hutt 6300,
> New Zealand, [heard that one before?!] 

Bingo! You get the prize for guessing the name of the company which won't 
take my name off their mailing list. I wasn't actually going to say yet, 
but as you have hit on the correct answer.

Your prize is a ten year subscription to time share junk mail, and trashy 
prizes. Just go yo Turangi once a month to collect your prizes :-)

Now, see if you can guess the name of the company which sold my name, and 
win a free daily phone call from a machine operated by a radio station :-)

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Newsgroups: nz.general
From: gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Nathan Torkington)
Subject: Re: machine phone calls
Organization: Contract to CSC, Victoria Uni, Wellington, New Zealand
	<sbiddle.055i@aviate.cavebbs.gen.nz>
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 21:27:10 GMT

Check out the most recent "Communications of the ACM" for a wee guide
to a surprise ruling by the Supreme Court in America which basically
states for something to be copyrighted there has to have been some
creative input.  Aaron's "partial ordering on the character key
domain" is not creative enough to warrant a copyright in the US.

Unfortunately, the US isn't NZ and our copyright laws may place no
such restriction on creativity.  The US has the Supreme Court to
decide how the forefathers would have wanted things done.  I suppose
the Waitangi Tribunal serves a similar purpose here, but I can't
imagine part of the treaty being "oh, and copyrights should exist to
promote invention and learning".

Nat.
{not a legal opinion, instead burbling from a couch copyright-lawyer :)}
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: paul@actrix.gen.nz (Paul Gillingwater)
Subject: Re: Fwd'd Re: Job Opportunity
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 07:00:50 GMT

In article <awgRiB1w164w@satori.equinox.gen.nz> geoff@satori.equinox.gen.nz (Geoff McCaughan) writes:
> >industries, without the ignorance stirred up by remarks such as
> >yours, which seem to be motivated by fear.
 
> [FLAME ON!]
> 
> Paul whilst I'm happy to discuss the merits of racism/sexism posing as
> 'affirmative action' vs racism/sexism posing as reactionary redneck
> smallmindedness, kindly blow your armchair psychology out you ear.
> 
> [FLAME OFF]

Now I'm convinced it was fear.  The depth of your reaction shows
deep seated resentment at those who might compete with you in a job
situation, and who might have an ``unfair advantage''.  :-)

> No I wasn't joking. Do you suppose it is any more difficult for me as a
> 'white male' to understand these issues than it is for you as a 'white
> male'.

I was implying we are both in a similar state, i.e. because we may
not necessarily identify ourselves as being part of a recognised
minority.  Studies have shown beyond all doubt that such groups are
disadvantaged in job terms.
-- 
Paul Gillingwater, paul@actrix.gen.nz
From: turgon@tornado.welly.gen.nz (Paul Thompson)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: getting off mailing lists
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 15:48:56 +1200
Organization: Tornado BBS, Wellington, New Zealand.

mdh@gaya.gp.co.nz (Martin D. Hunt) writes:

>  
>  Now, see if you can guess the name of the company which sold my name, and 
>  win a free daily phone call from a machine operated by a radio station :-)


At a guess/wide stab in the dark etc etc, The World Record Club. Ever 
since I got of their mailing list (by not buying enough stuff every six 
months) the letters from Time have stopped. It's been a quiet peaceful 
year without a single letter from Time.

Cheers, Paul.
P.s Was I right?

LORD FINGOLFIN         | "Maentwrog"
TURGON@TORNADO.GEN.NZ  | Celtic word for a computer spelling mistake.
         Paul Thompson | DOUGLAS ADAMS & JOHN LLOYD The Meaning Of Liff 

  Disclaimer, I disclaim everything. I know nuffink! (Hogans Heros)
Xref: sparky nz.general:467 nz.comp:116
From: chem194@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (John Davis)
Newsgroups: nz.general,nz.comp
Subject: Re: modem and software for an Amiga 500
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:46:39 +1200
Organization: Chem Dept, UoC NZ

In article <199204070143.AA27864@kaukau.comp.vuw.ac.nz>, andy@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Bond) writes:
> I am trying to find out about using terminal software on an Amiga 500.
> Is there (free?) software available to provide terminal emulation over
> a serial line to some generic 2400 baud modem?  
> 
> As you may have guessed, I have no clue about Amiga's (and might even
> have a hard time recognizing one :-).  I've read a couple of amiga
> newsgroups but don't know how I would get ftpable software down onto
> the Amiga.  The Amiga is to be used by a local primary school to hook
> into CityNet.
> 
> Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated.

presumably if they're going into CityNet (which as I understand it runs on a
VMS vax system) they they want a _decent_ vt100 emulation. In that case you've
got a choice of about 3 packages - Vt100 (public domain, no frills but very
good emulation, has kermit protocol too), Jrcomm (shareware, ok vt100
emulation, zmodem but no kermit, much nicer user interface) or HandShake (full
vt100 _and_ 220 emulation, Zmodem and Kermit, shareware - probably the pick of
the bunch if all you want to do is talk to VAXen).

all of these should be on any good amiga ftp site - getting them to the Amiga
is the fun part - personally I use software to allow me to read/write PC 3.5"
disks on the amiga. The two packages to look at are MultiDOS or MSH - both are
public domain and are available via FTP, but of course if you ftp them you're
in a  catch 22 situation aren't you :-) Probably the best thing to do is to
find some local Amiga owner and  get a copy of either the PC floppy software or
the actual comms program itself already on native amiga format.

-- 
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| o      John Davis - CHEM194@csc.canterbury.ac.nz       o |
| o    (Depart)mental Programmer,Chemistry Department    o |
| o  University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand o |
From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Fwd'd Re: Job Opportunity
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:41:46 PST
Organization: TAP, NZAmigaUG

Quoted from <1992Apr06.234609.7848@cavebbs.gen.nz> by clear@cavebbs.gen.nz (Charlie Lear):

> equal opportunity and would appoint on merit and suitability.  I am not
> interested if I stand to miss out because I am (shock) white and (gasp) male.

    Which, like other attitudes here, has the end result of supporting the
    policy of the company involved, hence all win. Good stuff.

> Charlie "The Bear" Lear | clear@cavebbs.gen.nz | Kawasaki Z750GT  DoD#0221
--
*** John Bickers, TAP, NZAmigaUG.        jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz ***
***    "Radioactivity - It's in the air, for you and me" - Kraftwerk    ***
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Fwd'd Re: Job Opportunity
From: geoff@satori.equinox.gen.nz (Geoff McCaughan)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 23:28:19   M
Organization: The Equinox Network CHCH NZ (Node SATORI)

paul@actrix.gen.nz (Paul Gillingwater) writes:

> Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.  The ``system'' is heavily
> weighted in favour of white, middle-class males.  I'm suggesting
> that there needs to be POSITIVE DISCRIMINATION to help redress the
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
oxymoron.

> imbalance.  Of course ability counts too, and I'm not suggesting
> that a person of limited ability be given a job ahead of someone
> with skills, training and experience.  What I am suggesting is that
> where two candidates present with similar experience, Affirmative
> Action Policy should dictate that the minority should get the job.
> If that means you or I miss out, then so be it.  Statistically,
> we're much more likely to get the job, or another one like it.
> 
> [...]
> I think you're missing the point.  I'm not trying to be P.C.
> Personally, I think that can go too far.  I am saying that the
> ``system'' is weighted heavily against woman and non-whites, and
> that my sense of fairness suggests that positive action needs to be
> taken to redress the imbalance.

In doing so you are exhibiting the same failing as those whose attitudes
you condemn; that of treating the job applicant [and the rest of your
employees] not as people, but as members of some arbitrary grouping.

The world is full of minorities, and each person is an individual. How
often does it really occur that two job applicants have completely equal
skills training and experience?

Furthermore, just how do you define the 'system', your business? your
city? your country? the world? Do you try to right the imbalances of
the whole world, or something a little more parochial?

Let's see there's 1.5 billion Chinese with jobs, so we'll have to make
sure we don't employ any of *them*. :-/

| Geoff - Sysop Equinox (equinox.gen.nz) +64 (3) 3854406 (4 Lines)
| Email:  geoff@satori.equinox.gen.nz
|         "If I post something lucid, is that satorial eloquence?"
From: turgon@tornado.welly.gen.nz (Paul Thompson)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Fwd'd Re: Job Opportunity
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 12:31:28 +1200
Organization: Tornado BBS, Wellington, New Zealand.

hugh@fivegl.co.nz (Hugh Grierson) writes:

>  In article <jbickers.05jz@templar.actrix.gen.nz> jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.
>  >
>  >    What cracked me up about the original post was the phrase "people of
>  >    color". Isn't there a normal phrase for prospective employers to use?
>  >    Like: "We are an equal opportunity employer".
>  >
>  
>  Who was it (a black American) who said "White people are coloured too, if
>  they weren't then they'd be transparent."
>  
>  In the right context "people of colour" isn't offensive at all...

It's not what it says, it's what it *IMPLIES*

Paul.

LORD FINGOLFIN         | "Maentwrog"
TURGON@TORNADO.GEN.NZ  | Celtic word for a computer spelling mistake.
         Paul Thompson | DOUGLAS ADAMS & JOHN LLOYD The Meaning Of Liff 

  Disclaimer, I disclaim everything. I know nuffink! (Hogans Heros)
From: sbiddle@aviate.cavebbs.gen.nz (Steve Biddle)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re:  machine phone calls
Distribution: world
Date: 12 Apr 92 11:25:10 +1200
Organization: Steves Amiga - Wellington, New Zealand.

In article <Z33wiB2w165w@tornado.welly.gen.nz> wilcke@tornado.welly.gen.nz (John Nash) writes:
>Gavin.Flower@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Gavin Flower) writes:
>
>>  I think such machines should be banned!
>>
>>  Gavin
>>  --
>
>I agree. I got one from that radio station right in the middle of a very
>interesting item on TV-3's news. It really p---ed me off. I missed the
>item completely. There should be a way for Telecom to make them take your
>number off their list or publish a list of numbers that have complained
>and prohibit them from calling at any time.

The problem is that as far as I'm aware of, lists don't exist. They are simply
randomly selected. It would be illegal for a company to copy numbers out of
the phone book for their own use. I can only think of one way to stop this,
and that revolves around crashing the machine, surely it can't be _that_ hard
to do! :-)

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Newsgroups: nz.general,wgtn.chat,nz.comp,vuw.general
From: jonathan@tahi.isor.vuw.ac.nz (Jonathan Stone)
Subject: Re: modem and software for an Amiga 500
Organization: Institute of Statistics and Operations Research, VUW, Wellington, NZ
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 10:34:58 GMT
Followup-To: wgtn.chat,nz.comp

In article <PTeuiB1w164w@tosh.wcc.govt.nz> rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor ) writes:
>17:09:32
> 7-Apr-1992
> 
>andy@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Bond) writes:
>
>> I am trying to find out about using terminal software on an Amiga 500.
>> Is there (free?) software available to provide terminal emulation over
>> a serial line to some generic 2400 baud modem?  

This doesn't seem relevant to vuw.general anymore.

Richard, are you willing to be a contact point for anyone wanting
to introduce such disks to schools?
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: getting off mailing lists
From: pgut1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Peter "HPACK" Gutmann)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 05:26:01 GMT
 <1992Apr4.160158.1737@gaya.gp.co.nz> <1992Apr5.033921.1361@comp.vuw.ac.nz>
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland
Keywords: privacy,junkmail

In <1992Apr5.033921.1361@comp.vuw.ac.nz> Martin.Ehrenstein@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Martin Ehrenstein) writes:

>Anyway how does one stop those phone marketing surveryors, which are a
>real pain because they make you go to your phone at the most inconvenient
>times.

"Oh hi...so you're a telemarketer...OK, I've just got a call on the other
 line, hang on a sec while I put you on hold..."

<click>

Hmm..must be just about time to go out for lunch...

(Funnily enough, by the time you get back they seem to have hung up).
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: thetroll@rata.vuw.ac.nz (The Troll)
Subject: Isaac Asimov Dead
Organization: Computing Serv. Ctr, Victoria Uni., Wellington, New Zealand
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 19:52:57 GMT

Science Fiction readers will be saddened that Isaac Asimov, author of the
Foundation Trilogy, and many short stories including the widly aclaimed
"Nightfall" has died.

Details are sketchy at the moment, but it appears he died late on Monday
night (NZ Time) of heart and kidney failure. 

Another giant of the field falls...


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Alex Heatley                                Computing Services Centre
Domain: Alex.Heatley@vuw.ac.nz              Victoria University of Wellington
"If you want my secrets, you'll eat my sandwich" --- Dr Steven Mills