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From: dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall)
Newsgroups: aus.radio
Subject: Daily IPS Report - 10 Nov 92
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:49:29 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Pacific ESI, Sydney, AUSTRALIA

IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES AUSTRALIA
Daily Solar And Geophysical Report
Issued at 2330 UT 9 November 1992
Summary for 9 November and Forecast up to 12 November
No IPS warning is current.
-----------------------------------------------------------

1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: low

Flares: none.

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 132/084

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             10 November        11 November        12 November
Activity     Low to moderate    Low to moderate    Low to moderate
Fadeouts     Possible           Possible           Possible

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 135/087

1C. SOLAR COMMENT
None.
-----------------------------------------------------------

2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth : quiet to unsettled, with active
levels 06-09UT and 12-15UT, and minor storm levels 09-12UT.

Estimated Indices : A   K
    Learmonth       20  2245 4333
    Fredericksburg  25
    Planetary       35

Observed Indices for 8 November : A
                  Fredericksburg  09
                  Planetary       09

2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth : generally quiet to unsettled with
isolated active periods.
Ap :  19

2C. MAGNETIC COMMENT
Major storm levels were recorded from 06UT at high latitudes,
declining over the rest of the day to active levels.

3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
Propagation conditions :         
Low Lats: Normal.
Mid Lats: Normal.
High Lats: Poor to fair.
PCA Event : None.
3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
Propagation conditions are expected to be degraded at high latitudes
for the next 24 hours. Low latitudes should be unaffected by today's
field disturbance.
3C. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION COMMENT
None.

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4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
MUFs at Sydney were mostly near predicted values with 20-40%
enhancements at 01-02UT and 08-13UT. Spread F may have degraded
communications around 12UT.

Observed Sydney Regional Ionospheric Index : 101

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
          10 November        11 November        12 November
MUFs      depressed 20-30%   near normal        near normal
T index    40                 65                 80

Predicted Monthly Ionospheric Index for November is 70.

4C. AUSTRALIAN REGION COMMENT
Lower latitudes should experience depressions of up to 20%.

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From: dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall)
Newsgroups: aus.radio
Subject: Re: Radar
Date: 13 Nov 92 09:59:17 GMT
Organization: Pacific ESI, Sydney, AUSTRALIA

In article <1992Nov11.210354.3248@runx.oz.au>,
    richardm@runx.oz.au (Richard Murnane) writes:

| >I have heard of cops running around with detector-detectors, but no radar (or
| >with the radar turned off), so they don't give themselves away until they hit
| >the siren. They pull you over and one guy hits the radar while the other
| >listens for funny noises in your car.

They also "troll for tail lights".

| Dumb question time! Has anyone ever tried building a TRF receiver for the
| K or X bands (or whichever they band the detectors use), to avoid problems with
| the local oscillator radiating?

K-band (but I think speed cameras are Ka band).  You'd need a pretty broad
front end, since the actual transmitter is anywhere in about a 50 MHz span...
Current detectors work by sweeping up and down, and they generally mix both
X- and K-band down to a common IF, thus the LO is somewhere in between
(and hence on a known band).  Solution: use K-band only, or pick a different
IF :-)

| Not that I'd even dream of using one of course :-)

Of course not.  Purely for educational purposes only.

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Subject: Re: Aircraft radio comms - polarisation 
From: Steve_Wright@kcbbs.gen.nz (Steve Wright)
Date: 14 Nov 92 03:18:16 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

they sure do. Our club cessna has two 1/4 wave whips, one for aviation
somms and the other is terminated with a bnc socket for marine SAR
use and any other radio near the marine band .... works well on 2m  :))
especially at 9500 FT!!  Be careful how many repeaters you trip though ....

73, Steve - ZL1BHD
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From: terryd@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Terry Dawson)
Subject: Re: VK2WI Weekly News, 8th November 1992
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 08:48:24 GMT

steve@fawlty.towers.oz.au (Steve Blanche) writes:

>>Although the WIA is providing the venue, we'd like to make
>>it clear that it is the attendees who will drive the
>>meeting, elect a chairman, and propose solutions to the
>>existing problems.

>Does this mean the WIA NSW Div is staying well away from packet
>and remaining un-involved.

yep .. it seems so .. it also seems that the WIA has totally forgotten
the content of teh packet discussion at the open forum .. only the
sentiment .. they hav forgotten that the open forum was there fo
suggestions as to how the vk2 division could better itself .. the
suggestion was made that the vk2 division should volunteer resources
to help establish a packet network .. and so they decided on a packet
forum so that we could all get together and spit and shit on each other.
fun. I'm taking a raincoat. I wouldn't miss it for the world .. I'm in
need of some good reinforcement of my negative feeling towards this
bloody hobby .. I'm sure the packet 'forum' will top them up quite
nicely .. radio was my first love .. computing will probably be my
wife.

Terry

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From: dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall)
Newsgroups: aus.radio
Subject: Daily IPS Report -  6 Nov 92
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:49:25 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Pacific ESI, Sydney, AUSTRALIA

IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES AUSTRALIA
Daily Solar And Geophysical Report
Issued at 2330 UT 5 November 1992
Summary for 5 November and Forecast up to 8 November
No IPS warning is current.
-----------------------------------------------------------

1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: Moderate

Flares    Max     Fadeout    Begin   End    Freq.  Sectors
 M2/--    0622UT  possible                  lower  Mid East/Indian

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 136/088

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             06 November        07 November        08 November
Activity     Low to moderate    Low to moderate    Low to moderate
Fadeouts     Possible           Possible           Possible

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 130/082

1C. SOLAR COMMENT
Two new regions on the east limb provide flare potential. The
location of today's M2 flare is uncertain.
-----------------------------------------------------------

2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth : Quiet

Estimated Indices : A   K
    Sydney          --  ---- ----
    Learmonth       05  2211 1212
    Fredericksburg  11
    Planetary       15

2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
Geomagnetic field at Sydney : Quiet to unsettled
Ap :  16

2C. MAGNETIC COMMENT
Generally unsettled elsewhere. Expect active to minor storm 
levels around the 8th.

3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
Propagation conditions :         
Low Lats: Normal.
Mid Lats: Normal.
High Lats: Normal.
PCA Event : None.
3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
Propagation conditions are expected to be normal.
3C. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION COMMENT
Conditions at high latitudes improved over the last day.

-----------------------------------------------------------

4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
MUFs at Sydney were near predicted monthly values with enhancements
of 40-50% 20-23UT. A disturbance in the F layer from around
0155-0206UT may have disrupted communications at this time.

Observed Sydney Regional Ionospheric Index :  96

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
          06 November        07 November        08 November
MUFs      near normal        near normal        depressed 15 to 30%
T index   90                 90                 55

Predicted Monthly Ionospheric Index for November is 70.

4C. AUSTRALIAN REGION COMMENT
None.

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From: u911661@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Mad Mal)
Subject: Antenna programs
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:57:49 GMT

I am looking for antenna design programs for both the ibm and the Amiga ..

I am specifically interested in the UHF (477mhz) Citizen Band .. but am also
interested in the 27mhz band (11m) and 10m amateaur bands ... 

I have been designing 27mhz antennas for quite a while, but when I moved to 
UHF small problems became amplified by the need for more accuracy .. and I 
cant be bothered double checking all calculations by hand ... ie the need for
the program ...

NB I am Mac,IBM, and Amiga compatiable(and C64) .. does anybody
know of any PD or Commercial filename that I could hunt down .. or the sites
of PD software on the net ....


Thanks in advance .. Malcolm .. ('the triple 6' .. TSS666 )


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From: richardm@runx.oz.au (Richard Murnane)
Subject: Re: Radar
Organization: RUNX Un*x Timeshare.  Sydney, Australia.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 21:03:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.222904.15857@runx.oz.au> cheese@runx.oz.au (Mark Cheeseman) writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.021801.18321@fawlty.towers.oz.au> steve@fawlty.towers.oz.au (Steve Blanche) writes:
>>You can still use your detector and not get caught using it, mount
>>your detector on your dashboard, carry a mallet in your car, within
>>easy reach, when a cop pulls you over, grab mallet and smash detector !
>>This works two fold, first, it destroys the evidence, secondly, the
>>detector probably didnt work, otherwise why would the cop stop you.
>>
>I have heard of cops running around with detector-detectors, but no radar (or
>with the radar turned off), so they don't give themselves away until they hit
>the siren. They pull you over and one guy hits the radar while the other
>listens for funny noises in your car.

Dumb question time! Has anyone ever tried building a TRF receiver for the
K or X bands (or whichever they band the detectors use), to avoid problems with
the local oscillator radiating?

Not that I'd even dream of using one of course :-)

73 de Richard VK2SKY

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From: dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall)
Newsgroups: aus.radio
Subject: Daily IPS Report -  5 Nov 92
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:49:24 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Pacific ESI, Sydney, AUSTRALIA

IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES AUSTRALIA
Daily Solar And Geophysical Report
Issued at 2330 UT 4 November 1992
Summary for 4 November and Forecast up to 7 November
No IPS warning is current.
-----------------------------------------------------------

1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: low

Flares: none.

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 143/096

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             05 November        06 November        07 November
Activity     Low to moderate    Low to moderate    Low
Fadeouts     Possible           Possible           None expected

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 145/098

1C. SOLAR COMMENT
A newly assigned region has grown significantly over the past day. It
and another region provide the best potential for flare activity.
-----------------------------------------------------------

2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth : quiet to unsetted with active
levels 12-18UT.

Estimated Indices : A   K
    Sydney          --  ---- ----
    Learmonth       15  2223 4433
    Fredericksburg  18
    Planetary       27

2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
Geomagnetic field at Sydney : quiet to unsettled
Ap :  18

2C. MAGNETIC COMMENT
Minor storm levels were recorded at some sites, mostly during
local daylight.

3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
Propagation conditions :         
Low Lats: Normal.
Mid Lats: Normal.
High Lats: Poor.
PCA Event : None.
3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
Propagation conditions are expected to improve at high latitudes
today. Elsewhere conditions should be normal.
3C. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION COMMENT
Storming which began around 10UT affected high latitudes.

-----------------------------------------------------------

4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
MUFs at Sydney were 20-30% depressed from 00-06UT and at 21UT. Near
predicted values otherwise.

Observed Sydney Regional Ionospheric Index :  45

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
          05 November        06 November        07 November
MUFs      near normal        near normal        near normal
T index    80                 95                 80

Predicted Monthly Ionospheric Index for November is 70.

4C. AUSTRALIAN REGION COMMENT
None.

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From: dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall)
Newsgroups: aus.radio
Subject: Daily IPS Report -  4 Nov 92
Date: 4 Nov 92 11:05:33 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Pacific ESI, Sydney, AUSTRALIA

IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES AUSTRALIA
Daily Solar And Geophysical Report
Issued at 2330 UT 3 November 1992
Summary for 3 November and Forecast up to 6 November
IPS Warning No. 31, issued on Nov. 2, is still current.
-----------------------------------------------------------

1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: low

Flares: none.

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 135/087

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             04 November        05 November        06 November
Activity     Low                Low                Low
Fadeouts     None expected      None expected      None expected

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 130/082

1C. SOLAR COMMENT
None.
-----------------------------------------------------------

2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth : quiet to unsetted, with brief 
active period 09-12UT.

Estimated Indices : A   K
    Sydney          --  ---- ----
    Learmonth       10  3234 2121
    Fredericksburg  15
    Planetary       20

2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
Geomagnetic field at Sydney : quiet to unsettled
Ap :  20

2C. MAGNETIC COMMENT
None.

3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
Propagation conditions :         
Low Lats: Normal.
Mid Lats: Normal.
High Lats: Fair to poor.
PCA Event : Ended at 03/1900UT.
3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
Propagation conditions are expected to be very poor to fair at high
lats, fair to good at other lats.
3C. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION COMMENT
None.

-----------------------------------------------------------

4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
MUFs at Sydney were 15-20% enhanced 00-13UT, 15-30% depressed 21-23UT
and near normal otherwise.

Observed Sydney Regional Ionospheric Index : 114

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
          04 November          05 November           06 November
MUFs      depressed up to 30%  depressed about 15%   near normal
T index   50                   60                    70

Predicted Monthly Ionospheric Index for November is 70.

4C. AUSTRALIAN REGION COMMENT
None.

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From: makinc@hhcs.gov.au (Carl Makin)
Newsgroups: aus.radio
Subject: Re: Aircraft radio comms - polarisation ?
Date: 11 Nov 92 05:55:15 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Aust. Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services

In article <1992Nov10.024226.19193@fawlty.towers.oz.au>, steve@fawlty.towers.oz.au (Steve Blanche) writes:

>>> 	Does anyone know what antenna polarisation is used
>>> on aircraft and ground stations eg. control towers ?

>> Vertical.  Antennas on aircraft may be placed in a variety of
>> places but the majority of them are placed with vertical

> From the replies to this question, it is obviously vertical, but
> what techniques are used for antennas on planes, they obviously dont
> mount 1/4 wave whips on the roof    ??

Yes they do! :-)  In fact most light aircraft use 1/4 wave
antennas mounted on the fuselage or on the wing.  Some use a
protuberance that looks like a paddle which, I believe, is some
sort of coil loaded antenna.  Another popular antenna is the slot
radiator which is basically a specially shaped cut in the metal
body of the aircraft.

Transponders often use a stubby antenna mounted on the underside
of the aircraft, ADF (Automatic Direction Finding) antennas are
often a small circular bump or blister underneath the aircraft. 
HF antennas can be trailed out the rear of the aircraft and are
deployed or extracted using an electric winch or they may be
strung between a wing tip and the rudder (mainly on light
aircraft).

A friend had a problem with a transponder antenna a while back on
his Grumman Tiger, the antenna was too far back towards the tail
underneath the fuselage.  When he was flying directly towards the
radar and descending they used to lose his transponder return. 
He moved it up close underneath the engine and it works much
better now. :-) 

Carl.

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From: makinc@hhcs.gov.au (Carl Makin)
Newsgroups: aus.radio
Subject: Re: Aircraft radio comms - polarisation ?
Date: 11 Nov 92 05:59:55 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Aust. Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services

In article <terryd.721385540@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU>, terryd@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Terry Dawson) writes:

> a couple of hours .. I remember visiting fairburn (sp?) raaf base at

Fairbairn

It's co-located with Canberra airport although the controllers
are civilians.

Carl.
In Canberra!

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From: dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall)
Newsgroups: aus.radio
Subject: Daily IPS Report -  8 Nov 92
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:49:27 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Pacific ESI, Sydney, AUSTRALIA

IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES AUSTRALIA
Daily Solar And Geophysical Report
Issued at 2330 UT 7 November 1992
Summary for 7 November and Forecast up to 10 November
IPS Warning No. 32, issued on 07 Nov, is still current.
-----------------------------------------------------------

1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: low

Flares: none.

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 135/087

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             08 November        09 November        10 November
Activity     Low to moderate    Low to moderate    Low to moderate
Fadeouts     Possible           Possible           Possible

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 130/082

1C. SOLAR COMMENT
None.
-----------------------------------------------------------

2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth : quiet to unsettled, with active
levels 15-18UT.

Estimated Indices : A   K
    Learmonth       11  3232 2422
    Fredericksburg  10
    Planetary       08

2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth : unsettled with periods of active to
minor storm levels.
Ap :  21

2C. MAGNETIC COMMENT
High latitudes experienced active levels from 06-18UT.

3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
Propagation conditions :         
Low Lats: Normal.
Mid Lats: Normal.
High Lats: Poor to fair.
PCA Event : None.
3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
Propagation conditions are expected to be degraded at high latitudes.
3C. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION COMMENT
Frequencies are expected to be depressed at mid latitudes. Low latitudes
should be unaffected.

-----------------------------------------------------------

4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
MUFs at Sydney were 20-40% enhanced 00-03UT. Near monthly predicted
values at other times.

Observed Sydney Regional Ionospheric Index :  87

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
          08 November        09 November        10 November
MUFs      depressed 20-30%   depressed 20-30%   near normal
T index   45                 50                 85

Predicted Monthly Ionospheric Index for November is 70.

4C. AUSTRALIAN REGION COMMENT
Expect depressions to occur mostly during local daylight hours.

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From: steve@fawlty.towers.oz.au (Steve Blanche)
Subject: Re: VK2WI Weekly News, 8th November 1992
Reply-To: steve@fawlty.towers.oz.au (Steve Blanche)
Organization: Tower Technology, Sydney
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:38:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.075756.10439@runx.oz.au> richardm@runx.oz.au (Richard Murnane) writes:
>VK2WI Broadcast, 8th November, 1992.  Copyright 1992 WIA
>(NSW) & contributors.  Material may be used elsewhere if the
>source is acknowledged.
>
>A reminder to those of you active in packet radio: a Packet
>Radio "Open Forum", will be held at Amateur Radio House, 109
>Wigram Street, Parramatta on the the 22nd November.
>
>Although the WIA is providing the venue, we'd like to make
>it clear that it is the attendees who will drive the
>meeting, elect a chairman, and propose solutions to the
>existing problems.
>
Oh $#@!  that'll take a whole afternoon of argueing, just to
choose a chairman, let alone any constructive talk, it really
needs someone armed with a baseball bat to hold a orderly
meeting like that.
Does this mean the WIA NSW Div is staying well away from packet
and remaining un-involved.

>We hope that this meeting will be as productive as the
>general "Open Forum" held back in August; once again, the
>meeting will be held on the 22nd of this month, at Amateur
>Radio House, 109 Wigram Street, Parramatta, starting at
>10am.


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