HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Physics-1A Question (pardeh bardAriye ostAd az mo'ammA)
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:17:54 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: handel

In article <1992Oct8.070011.5842@wuecl.wustl.edu> seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian) writes:
>
>>imagine there are a hundred doors:
>>
>> 1							100
>>[ ] [p] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] ... [ ]             
>>
>>and you pick door # 1.  what is the probability of you being
>>right (never mind that youre almost always wrong)?  1/100?  
>>good!  theres an appliance-grade 4 mhz z80 running in there 
>>afterall.
>>
>>now lets say the prize is behind door #2.  so i open doors
>>3 thru 100 and show you that theres no prize behind them.
>>
>>so, now we have doors 1 & 2 left, behind one of which there
>>is a prize.
>>
>>if you stay with door #1, youre chances of being right is 
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>still only what?  1/100?  very good!  you get a cookie and and a pat
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>Fascinating!!! Thank you very much for clarifying the problem. 

youre welcome.  from your pasta noodle-strength whip of sarcasm,
i take it you believe the probability to be something else.
could you share that value with us?  hell, i could be wrong and you
could be right.  if so, ill say i made a mistake!  

remember, so that there is no "confusion": you pick some door.
i open 98 other doors and show you that there is no prize behind
them.  two doors remain, behind one of which is a prize.  what
is the probability of the prize being behind your original
choice at this point?  1/100?  50/50?  what?  are you continuing
to say it doesnt pay to switch?
From: ebrahim@ee.umanitoba.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Iran,Nukes, and decedent leaders! 2nd part
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:56:47 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada


    Following my previous article in this regard:

    On CNN Headline News broadcast of 17:30 GMT (today), they said that Khazakhistan
has strongly denied that they have been having any talks with Iranians about nuclear
deals. They also quated US State Dept. as saying that "they don't have any evidence
in this regard and there has been some unsubstantiated rumors like this one since the
colapse of Soviet Union".

    It takes a very dumb guy to belive that all inteligent services of western powers
have failed to find such an important matter, and they have all been waiting for some
ex-Iranian decedent leaders to tell (read sell)them the news!

    I wonder if Americans have been dumb enough to pay the money first and listen to
the inteligent material next. If so, good for American tax-payers. 8-)
From: michaelm@titanic.esd.sgi.com (Mike Mohageg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Konar, Khuzistan and a quiz
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:56:47 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

Everyone's been talking about knoar, ghilyeh mahi, ghara, sepessoon, etc.  But I remember one of my favorite snacks was a classical bit of "junk food."  The estakhr-e Segush (and beraim) use to sell these really tastey potato chips.  I don't know if you remeber, but they were pretty greasy and real crunchy.  After a full morning of playing zadani bala-ye dive (anyone remember that??!!) the chips went nicely with a Kuka (Coke).  So what's all this ranting about?

I HAVE FOUND THOSE ABADAN CHIPS HERE IN THE U.S.!!!!! YES IT'S TRUE!!!!

They are made by Anheuser-Busch and their called Eagle Extra Crunchy Potato Chips.  Just one chip immediately reminds me of the hot Abadan summer and the cool estakhr.  Unfortunately, I haven't found the Iranian recipe Kuka out here; I'm sure that'll never happen!!!  For those of you who are skeptics the Coke in Iran really did taste different (not better or worse, just different).

So rush out and buy yourself a bag of those chips (if you're so inclined); it's a flavor from the good ol' days........


Now, for a bit more of Abadani soccer nostalgia.  I remember being at the soccer stadium for the San'at-e Naft vs. Malavan (from Rasht) match.  The Malavan team missed an easy scoring opportunity so the crowed, being the usual unforgiving people they were, started clapping bandari style and chanting:


"Malawan heecheh,  emshi khorde geecheh"

and

"en al-lazina kafaru (this is arabic), Malawan-o teemesh damaroo"

I thought that was pretty funny; not sure why, perhaps it was the accent :-)

[BTW, swapping the "w" for the "v" is done on purpose in this note, I hope it better conveys the accent. e.g. Malavan compared to Malawan.]

Regards,

MIKE
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: news@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Subject: Test!
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:16:32 GMT


Hi everybody!

   I'm new to this group and I'm happy to find you. Take care!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: nsohrabi@athena.mit.edu (Naghmeh Sohrabi)
Subject: We all fall down
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:31:49 GMT


Hello Everyone.
I remember the first time I found out about SCI, I was so psyched.  Here was a
forum where I could get to discuss things with other people, mostly Iranians on
issues related to Iran.  Something that I can't normally do here and in Iran.  
I remember I would take most things written seriously and try to give my real
reaction to it.  Now it cracks me up that I actually took the Salman
Rushdie articles seriously and answered them!

I don't know if it's me, or the general way Iranian societies tend to create
apathy in people, but now, all the discussions on SCI just make me laugh.  I
mean, c'mon, we have two people insulting each other back and forth because they
don't agree on a probability question, a question that's being discussed in
academic communities for some time now.  If everyone was gonna react like they did,
we'd have as many world wars as we have math problems.
Then we have "jokes" asking people why they're polite to each other.
Then people "discussing" the existence of God while they're actually practicing
how many sexual slurs they can make in one posting.  
Then we have people congratulating others for bombing a tomb.
Of course let's not forget the ones not allowed to make spelling mistakes if
they follow a certain ideological creed.
Then we have others putting up dance shows for other people on the net in their
ghahveh khouneh.
Then others who get all upset if you make a sexist remark (not that it stops
anyone mind you.) (I had to fit myself in there somehow!)
And you can add anything else to the list.

Don't you feel there's something wrong with us?  Is this the only way we can
waste our time?  Can't we do it in a better way?
I am aware (for those who are going to attack me) that I have a choice to
subscribe to SCI or not, and if I don't like it, I can just not read it anymore.
But what if I do like it, but in a different, more reasonable format?

It's hard to read the recent articles on SCI and think that these are the
supposedly "intellectuals" and "elite" of the Iranian immigrant community.

Sincerely,
Naghmeh.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri)
Subject: Re: PWP - Persian Word Processor
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: soc.culture.iranian
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:47:09 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.155149.15064@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>, siamak@sltsvr.ljo.dec.com (Parviz Siamak) writes:
|> 
|> Salam,
|> 
|> I am in need of a Persian Word Processor. I know there are some out there,
|> but I can't afford the prices at this time.
|> 
|> Please, if anybody has one let me know. I'll be glad to send you preformatted
|> floppy disks and the return address and may be a bonus to get a copy. 
|> 
|> Ba Tashakor,
|> 
|> --parviz


Parviz khAn,

I tried to send you email and they all were rejected I even tried
via Digital but the do not know you.  :-)

anyway there is a freeware  farsi editor on Tehran.Stanford.EDU
that someone gave me (I forgot his/her name) and  you can access
it via anonymous FTP and it is located in  the pub directory
called  aria.zip .    Extract it, put it on a PC running dos,  unzip
it run install and  VOILA  you got farsi editor.


-- 
         +----------------------------------------------------+
        /   Farhad  Shakeri         E-Mail:                  /
       /  Stanford   University     farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU  /
      / Computer Science Department                        /
     +----------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: samiri@encore.com (Soheila Amiri)
Subject: Re: Konar, Khuzistan and a quiz
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 14:41:16 GMT

keivan@brahms.udel.edu (Keivan Esfarjani) writes:

>What the fuck is a konAr tree?
>Could any kind soul DEFINE it before talking about it?
>This is for a dehAti-e khouzestAn narafteh who has never
>seen such things.
>Thanx in advance and Regards,
>K1

Dear K1,

I know with all the sexual slurs that are going around right now
in this wonderful land of SCI, how easy it might be to confuse
the beloved KonAr with some bizzare sexual act perfomred on or
near a tree and thus the reason for your four letter word
reference :-) to it!!

But I can assure you KonAr has nothing to do with sex.  If you saw
an earlier post, I explained it is the fruit of a native Khuzistani
tree called "derakht-e sedr".  The leaves of the tree are used for
washing hair and the fruit is fabulous!!

Sorry you never tasted it before and equally sorry you never did
visit KhuzistAn.  It was the land of many wonders.

Soheila
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: ahriman@wam.umd.edu (Ahoora joon)
Subject: Re: Physics-1A Question
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 05:17:18 GMT

In article <massoud.120.717782103@chemteca.sdsu.edu> massoud@chemteca.sdsu.edu (Massoud Ajami) writes:
>In article <na+p5!+.bavafa@netcom.com> bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi) writes:
>>From: bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi)
>>Subject: Physics-1A Question
>>Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 07:53:34 GMT
>>After reading few articles about late ostAd Hessabi, I got encouraged to
>>ask an elementary physics question.  Although it does not directly have
>>anything to do with s.c.iranian, but I thought with our resident physics
>>major netters perhaps it could spark a new tread - a scientific one.
>>
>>Water boils at temperature of 100 degrees C (or 212 degrees F).  Can we
>>prove it?  If yes, how?
>>
>Whenever water boils is called 100 degree C, not the other way around. The 
>degree C is an arbitrary selection of unit.
> 
The atmospheric pressure is also a factor. If you boil water on Mount Everest
you can't call that 100 degrees C. At sea level your statement would be correct
In hell? Well that's for me to know and for you to find out.

>>Perhaps I should have asked can we prove the concept of 
>temperature as an absolute property of matter?
>>
>If you look at temperature as an energy (which is), then every thing falls
>in its place.
>  
>>Regards,
>>Hooshyar F. Naraghi
>>bavafa@netcom.com
>>(415) 322-8056
>>
>You want challenge? Time is two dimentional!!

My Casio is dual time; one for each dimention! :)

-- 
ahriman
(aka Lucifer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Re: Abu-Musa and "THE GULF: Britain's days of empire"
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 21:40:08 GMT

sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
>ghbr@fmg.bt.co.uk (Hossein Bagherzadeh Rafsanjani) writes:
>>
>>  [quote press release deleted]
>
>Note:  IPS, is also known as Iraq Propaganda Service.  One quick linguistic
>analysis of following "news report", revels the person who wrote the article
>has arabic or Persian native language. Repeated mistakes includes:
>
>            - Not capitalizing the beginning of sentences.
>
>            - Sentences are too long for English style, more compatible
>              with arabic or Persian styles.
>
>            - Each paragraph contains only one sentence!  This a known
>              Arabic or Persian style.  No English style supports
>              this style.

Dear 'bahr-ol oloom' [(c), ???, 92]:

Have you ever heard of the saying that goes:

    "kal agar tabib boodi, sar e khod davA nemoodi"

'Off course' [(c) 'bahr-ol oloom' [(c) ???, 92], 92], not!
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                               /|\
                                |
                                |
                                |
                  SCI's first interleaved copyright.
                  [(c) mack, 92]

>        "Giving power and money to the governments is like giving 
>         whiskey and car keys to teenage boys."  
>		                                  - P.J. O'Rourke

Don't drink and drive! First drink, then drive!!!!

And for the humor impaired: :-)

    --mack

--
She's closing her eyes, then she takes me away,
and she's pulling the strings, when she's playing with love.
She's playing with love.                       --Alphaville
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.afghanistan
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Re: Persian Spell Check.
Originator: sehari@class1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:45:52 GMT

In <sehari.719190993@class1.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:

>---
>Many times I was going to translate some technical article and send it
>to Iran to be published in Radio Electronic and Danishmand; nevertheless,
>being out of Iran for a long time, a spell check is required.  I also found
>out many other people are in the same situation.  Therefore, I decided to
>make a spell check for Intext and make it free ware, so everybody could
>use it, as well.  However, this is a big project and I need many people
>(120 people) to divide the dictionary among them, so each one type only
>a few pages.  This is a great opportunity to put our differences aside
>and do something for our country.  

>To thank people who participate in this project, each person's name will
>appear on the screen before running this spell checker, from Intext.  The
>dictionary could be used to develop spell check for  other programs like
>Latex, and Area letter on.

>Let us show that we all our differences, we still can cooperate with each other
>and accomplish something useful.  If we do not help ourselves, nobody else
>will.

>If you are interested send me an email with your email address. 

>                 With highest regards,
>                      Babak   Sehari.
>P.S.  I encourage all my previous opponents to get involve in this project,
>as well.    There is room for everybody.

>                    


>-- 

Do not forget to include your Email address.

                         With highest regards,
                              Babak   Sehari.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: nasser@nasser.net.com (Nasser Modiri)
Subject: READ: ***** BRAIN ***** (Repeat)
Organization: NET, Redwood City
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 23:59:02 GMT

                        NEWS            NEWS            NEWS

                                     by
                                Nasser Modiri

        Redwood City, CA. October 1992: The NOOR group is happy to introduce
        to you the BRAIN newsletter.

        "The BRAIN newsletter published in English in Iran is an indenpendent
        monthly newsletter which reflects the evolving computer market and
        industry in Iran. BRAIN's mission is to provide uptodate information
        to both Iranian industry and academia with coverage of: Reviews of
        Software and Hardware products; News of upcoming events; and analysis
        of the international computing markets.
        BRAIN keeps businesses as well as individual of the Information
        Technology community informed about the latest developments in the
        country."

BRAIN is available through subscription, for further information write to:

        c/o Mr. Amin Mohdjer Editor-in-Chief
        BRAIN Newsletter
        P.O. Box 14455-161
        Tehran -  IRAN.

        Fax: +21 - 263 738
From: miner@panix.com (Ed Miner)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Visiting Iran???
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:05:34 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

Can anyone tell me besides a passport , if there are additional requirements,
if any, to visit Iran. My mother is Iranian, however I was born here, and have
an American father. I would very much like to visit Iran next year, and would
like to know if I am able to.



thanks
ed
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mkarimna@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Melissa Karimnamazi)
Subject: What to think?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 05:35:49 GMT

     I have been reading this news group for about six months.  I am an 
American and have studied Iranian culture and literature.  My experiences, both
personal and academic, have been very positive.  The literary tradition is
immense and vastly underrated in the West.  I have met many Iranians through my
husband and, as I said, have found the experiences positive.
     The  way in which conflicts and arguments in the news group were expressed
came as a surprise to me.  I have never met an Iranian who would use offensive
language in the presence of a woman.  Not because our ears are too "delicate"
(I'm an American remember), but rather, they abstained from using this type of
language as a sign of respect.
     I am not offended, merely confused.  I have socialized with Iranians for
the past five years and have never encountered conversations such as these.  On
the contrary, Iranians, in general, seem to avoid offending people (even
Americans :).
     Please Note:  This is not a criticism, just a request for information!  No
offense intended! :)

Khayli mamnun

Regards, Mellissa Namazi

P.S.  Perhaps it is because these exchanges are on a computer and therefore not
as restrained as person to person???
From: assana@polkadot.Eng.Sun.COM (Assana Fard)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Please respond - Need answers
Date: 15 Oct 1992 00:17:04 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: polkadot

In article <1992Oct14.145307.27785@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> siamak@sltsvr.ljo.dec.com (Parviz Siamak) writes:
>
>Salam,
>
>I really need some answers, ideas, suggestions on "How my brother can come
>to US to study?"
>
>I am a PM of US and can afford to support him. He has high school diploma and
>young, has finished army service (lost two small fingers of left foot over a
>mine.), and has couple of years of machine shop experience ( great in hydraulic
>press building).
>
>He has asked me how he can come and study here. I haven't been able to find
>ways (if there are any ?).
>
>Please, if you have had similar experience or have knowledge about this issue,
>email me a message or call me collect at home (508-793-8273).
>

---------------For Parviz only-----------------

I'm in the process of bringing my cousin to the US. He seems to be in the same
situation as your brother. I've tried emailing you the info I've so far gathered
several times, but it bounced each time. Please send me your correct email address.

--
         ^-^
        /o o\
       ===^===   assana@polkadot.eng.sun.com
          -
From: siamak@sltsvr.ljo.dec.com (Parviz Siamak)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Getting into US
Keywords: US
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:03:43 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.iranian
Organization: Software Licensing Technology Group

Salam,

My last brother is really interested to come here, US, and continue his study.

He has asked me to find out ways he can come here. Do any of you netters have
any info. on this issue? I can support him with his finances and a place to 
stay.

Please, respond.

Eradatmand_e Shoma,
--parviz
From: seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian)
Subject: Re: The result of being polite!
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 14:50:19 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.175325.6164@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb) writes:

>So??? What are you trying to say? I believe that people like you are
>hypocrites and self-righteous.
> ...
>Aref

Shall I post the private e-mail that you sent me a while ago, so that 
everybody, specially Hooshyar, understand who is hypocrite?

Seyyed.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.iranian:8881 soc.culture.pakistan:15662 soc.culture.arabic:4237
From: towfiq@justice.UUCP (Mark Towfiq)
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:50:37
Organization: Towfiq System
In-reply-to: saied@cwis.unomaha.edu's message of Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:09:10 GMT
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Please leave BAHA'IS out of this! (Re: Israel and Khomeini regimes)
X-Mailer: GNU Emacs 18.58 with RMAIL and Supercite 2.2
Distribution: world

>>>>> On Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:09:10 GMT, saied@cwis.unomaha.edu (Saied*) said:

s> I have learned that certain individuals (who had claimed they were
s> Baha'is) had joined the NLA.

  Please provide some evidence for this statement (which is only
hearsay without such evidence), or please do not repeat it on the net
again.

Mark
--
Mark Towfiq				towfiq%justice@eingedi.newton.ma.us

"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens" -- Baha'u'llah

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Re: What to think?
Originator: sehari@class1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 07:36:16 GMT

In <1992Oct15.053549.4459@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mkarimna@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Melissa Karimnamazi) writes:

>     I have been reading this news group for about six months.  I am an 
>American and have studied Iranian culture and literature.  My experiences, both
>personal and academic, have been very positive.  The literary tradition is
>immense and vastly underrated in the West.  I have met many Iranians through my
>husband and, as I said, have found the experiences positive.
>     The  way in which conflicts and arguments in the news group were expressed
>came as a surprise to me.  I have never met an Iranian who would use offensive
>language in the presence of a woman.  Not because our ears are too "delicate"
>(I'm an American remember), but rather, they abstained from using this type of
>language as a sign of respect.
>     I am not offended, merely confused.  I have socialized with Iranians for
>the past five years and have never encountered conversations such as these.  On
>the contrary, Iranians, in general, seem to avoid offending people (even
>Americans :).
>     Please Note:  This is not a criticism, just a request for information!  No
>offense intended! :)

>Khayli mamnun

>Regards, Mellissa Namazi

>P.S.  Perhaps it is because these exchanges are on a computer and therefore not
>as restrained as person to person???

And maybe you have not discover our vast cultural variation.  We have it all
in our culture, the polite, the rude?!, the secular, the spiritual, the warriors
, the peace lovers, the optimist, the pessimist, the religious, the atheist,
the communists, the capitalists, the sexists, the feminists, the chovanist,
and most other ists that you may or may not heard it in your life!

Being American, you should not have any problem understanding this.  See you
got Jesse Jackson, and you have David Duke, you have heavy metal, you have
gospel songs, you have churches, you have mustang ranch, you have Alabama,
you have California, you have Alaska, you have Arizona, you have pro-choice,
you have pro-life, you have The Wall Street Journal, you have the new republic,
you have PHDs, you have high school drop outs, you have homeless, you have
people with private air plain, you have KKK, you have the gangs....

You define what does it mean to be "an American", then I'll tell you
what does it mean to be "an Iranian"!

                     With highest regards,
                          Babak   Sehari.

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