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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:42:55 PST
From:         FRANK@LAW.UCLA.EDU
Subject:      Re: back to music
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> >(1) If you had ypur choice of playing in any band past/present who
> >    would it be or would you rahter front your own.

>  How fun!!  Here would be my choices:


    Louis Armstrong 20's/30's
    Bob Wills & the Texas Playboys 30's/40's
    Benny Goodman 40's/50's
    Bill Haley & Comets, Elvis circa 54, 55; Buddy Holly & Crickets
    Dave Clark Five 60's
    Beatles - prior to Sgt. Pepper
    Genesis - Period between Foxtrot & Wind & Wuthering
    Waterboys
    Los Lobos
    Replacements


Frank
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 09:59:00 ZONE
From:         Steve Rife <STEV@MCO.BITNET>
Subject:      Import CD's

     Chris Squires's "Fish Out of Water" is available as a Japanese import
along with many things which are not available in the states.
     Following is address/phone of a company which will get import CD's
delivered to your home (I have ordered a few and had good response for
the most part):

  Sound City 2000
  P.O. Box 22149
  Portland, Oregon  97222-0149

  (503) 654-2196

     They have a catalog you can get by calling them.

Steve Rife (STEV@MCO)
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:08:12 EDT
From:         WALTER SHERRILL <SHERRIWR@DUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Jazz Beginner

I seem to be a beginner in keyboard music. The chords and melodies that I
compose comes straight from my head and from the musical inspirations I have
I cannot read sheet music very well. I seem to play by ear some popular
Christmas tunes and "Mary had a Little Lamb".

I believe that the keyboard is revolutionizing the music industry and consumer
usage of keyboards. I am composing music with the keyboard helping me along.
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 10:52:00 MDT
From:         weasels ripped my dress <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      world cafe and santana

For those of you who are lucky enough to have radio stations that broadcast
World Cafe, there are some goodies lined up for the program this week:

Tuesday - The Oyster Band

Thursday - Phish

Friday - Santana

Saturday - New England bluesman Bill Morrissey

And speaking of Santana, have any of you picked up _solo para ti_ from Ottmar
Liebert + Luna Negra.  Santana contributes electric guitar work on this album.
Great stuff for flamenco guitar fans...

- Carol
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 08:35:17 PDT
From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Info request: Adrian Belew

The last time I heard of him I think was when he was playing with
Laurie Andersen back when "Home of the Brave" came out.
He also played on the first Tom Tom Club.

It's a mystery to me what happened to him.  I'd like to know as well.

 3
M
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:32:20 CET
From:         Sebastian Welton <SWELTON@ESOC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: omc: name your favorite German band

>>From:         lil miss meek and quiet <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
>
>>OMC:  Name your favorite German band
>
>
>Anyway, favorite German band...  Favorite?  You mean only one?  You
>want me to choose between...
>
>Tangerine Dream
>Kraftwerk

And don't forget Einsturzende Neubaten, Deutsche Amerikaner Freundschaft, et
al who have all made their own indistinguishable mark on modern music (and in
turn were influenced by many of these bands incl. Can and the composer
Stockhausen.) I have a list here of over 400 German bands and growing every
day.

>Agitation Free

Another fan!!! I picked up their album 2nd some time ago and was quite
enthralled by it, but, alas I have never seen any reference to them, not
even in passing. Well, one, but that was a dealer who was advertising to
buy it for an undisclosed figure (his highest price offered for other albums
was 800 pounds!). If you know anything John (or anyone) 'twould be much
obliged.

>John McIntyre

Good to see you back:-)

Seb

p.s. And don't forget those innovators Boney M. :-)

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Date: Thursday, 13 Aug 1992 16:58:15 CDT
From: <U19807@uicvm.uic.edu>
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Subject: re: WHERE y'ALL AT (ERRATA ALERT)

Unnnnnff. It turns out that Leonard Watkins was posting a reply to Rick,and
not _me_. That'll teach me to type first and check for attribution later...

Oh,wait. That post wasn't attributed,but it _was_ about one (or two) line
posts. Thus,the confusion.

I apologize. My view on messages of that length still stands,though.

      ** Chris Krolczyk,esq.  * DISCLAIMER: My opinions are in **
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:50:10 EDT
From:         Gary Hanley <ghanley@DG-WEBO.WEBO.DG.COM>
Subject:      Re: back to music
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              at Aug 13, 92 1:28 pm

OK Lenny, I'll bite!

>(1) If you had ypur choice of playing in any band past/present who
>    would it be or would you rahter front your own.

	Today, it would be XTC, a few years ago, it would have
been Yes. As for fronting your own band, oh comon, that's so
pretentous!

>(2) Think hard on this one, what do you think of Chet Atkins also
>    do you own any of his stuff

	Chet is simpily a guitar legend. I only own one of his
albums though, which is _Sails_. Very mellow, and not a good
sample of his style. But I get enough of his style with Steve
Howe, who was influenced by Chet.

>(3) on a scale of 1 to 10 how important is music in your life

	Music - 3
	Beer  - 3
	Woman - 4

>
>    play
>

	The piano. Maybe someday...

--
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    Gary Hanley
<ghanley@dg-webo.webo.dg.com>
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:14:23 EDT
From:         Gary Hanley <ghanley@DG-WEBO.WEBO.DG.COM>
Subject:      Re: Import CD's
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              Aug 21, 92 1:05 pm

Steve said:

>Fish Out of Water by Chris Squire is listed at $28.99

	Yeh, this is one of the more expensive imports for some
reason. I was lucky enough to pick it up for $25, if that is lucky. :(

--
Regards,
    Gary Hanley
<ghanley@dg-webo.webo.dg.com>
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:47:43 EDT
From:         Rick <MMLRICK@UBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Elvis dead 15 yrs. ago tomorrow

Aug. 16 will mark the 15th anniversary of Elvis Presley's death.
To all impersonators: Put a little extra hip shake into your act
this weekend in memory of the one event that really got your lives
in gear.
In this dawning of the year 15 AE, here's an excerpt from Baker's
Biographical Dictionary of Music and Musicians to help us all relive
the tragic event of Aug. 16, 1977 and its aftermath:

   "His death (of cardiac arrhythmia aggravated by an immoderate use of
tranquilizers and other drugs) precipitated the most extraordinary
outpouring of public grief over an entertainment figure since the death
of Rudolph Valentino. His entombment in the family mausoleum in Memphis
was the scene of mob hysteria, during which 2 people were run over and killed
by an automobile; 2 men were arrested in an alleged plot to spirit away his
body and hold it for ransom. Entrepreneurs avid for gain put out a mass of
memorial literature, souvenirs and gewgaws, sweat shirts emblazoned with
Presley's image in color, Elvis dolls, and even a life-size effigy, as part
of a multimillion-dollar effort to provide solace to suffering humanity; the
only discordant note was sounded by Presley's bodyguards, who authored a
book provocativly titled Elvis: What Happened?, with murky insinuations that
the King of Rock was a drug addict."

Another slice of Americana at your fingertips.
Rick
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Date: Thursday, 13 Aug 1992 16:46:07 CDT
From: <U19807@uicvm.uic.edu>
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Subject: re: WHERE y'ALL AT

In article <ALLMUSIC%92081311251807@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>, "Leonard Watkins"
<ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET> says:
>
>I'm not real sure how to bunch up replies would like some help in that
>area and alos how to include parts of post that i won't to reply to
>and etc....., however if i understand flameing it's just some fool
>talking all big & bad and trying to insult me but i have new for you
>I'm 32 yrs old i've been flamed quite a few times in my life and there's
>not a thing anyone of the "superior-than-thou" netters can do to hurt
>my feelings or get my dander up because i'll be right back in your face

You're 32 and you're still posting this sort of reply to public Email
lists? Man,do I feel sorry for you...

Problem is,I'm not talking "all big and bad". I'm just getting sick and tired
of people using this list to send brief messages back and forth when such
brief (and some of them were only one line in length-I mean,come _on_!)
messages could be better handled via a straight address-to-address correspon-
dence.

You do seem to be awful defensive,about this,BTW. I wasn't like I threatened
to kill your dog or something...

>but i enjoy the group and won't to obey the rules (i'm a republican)

Your,uh,political convictions don't enter into this. I don't even know why
you'd bring 'em up.

>so if you want to practice flaming you've got my address ,,,,humor me

Uh huh. You know,you could've sent this privately,too...unless you're expecting
me (or anyone else) to adhere to a different set of rules than you do.

      ** Chris Krolczyk,esq.  * DISCLAIMER: My opinions are in **
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      ** u19807@uicvm.uic.edu * So there. Nyaah.               **
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:45:36 PDT
From:         David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      thuffering thoughth

I think maybe I understand Leonard's question better than Tim did. I read
Leonard's question as referring to a specific style of playing or singing.
There are a lot of people out there whose guitar-playing style was directly
influenced by Hendrix. Why, the question seems to be, would we listen to
those Hendrix-derivatives when we have recordings of the man himself? I don't
think he meant to compare Hendrix with Jethro Tull (just because both can be
classified as "rock") or certainly not with Mahler or Prokofiev. Same with
Miles. Or Charlie Parker. Or Duane Allman or James Brown. All of these people
inspired imitators, some of whom have had careers longer than the "inspiration"
did. I read Leonard's question as, why listen to the students when you can
hear the master? A question based on identifiable playing style.

This said, however, I agree with Tim. No single artist's music is complete
enough to define, by itself, any style or genre. If it wasn't, then the
"Delta blues", for example, would have ended with Robert Johnson. Why bother
with anyone else when you can hear the master? Yet those who came after
Johnson, while not as towering a figure as he, do have something to say, and
their own way of saying it.

But it was a good question, and I think the quality of Tim's response to it
proves that it was.

David
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:07:47 CDT
From:         Lee=Jenkins%Factory=Sup%Mfg=Hou@BANGATE.COMPAQ.COM
Subject:      re: thunk
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From:           Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:        re: thunk
Date:           Friday, August 14, 1992 at 7:50:11 am CDT

>> had a Achy Breaky Heart at one time or someone you was once in love with got
>> married and you said that It Could Have Been Me.  This is what Billy Rae
>> Cyrus
>> is all about.  This is what Country Music is all about.
>>
> Wait, wait, you forgot something.  The THUNK THUNK THUNK THUNK THUNK THUNK
>beat.  Yesterday somebody was talking about country and metal turning into
>country-metal... That would be REAL easy because they both go THUNK THUNK THUNK
>THUNK THUNK THUNK THUNK
>
>Leonard asked about what band we'd like to play in (in fantasy-land, i.e. we'd
>be GOOD enough): I'd be in Cream or The Who.  (they never went THUNK THUNK)

Sonia, stop, please! :)  i can't stop laughing... THUNK THUNK THUNK THUNK THUNK
THUNK THUNK. i can almost hear your voice saying it over and over again, and i
can definitely hear the music going in my head.  it would be fun, i think, to
take a long car trip with you and Leonard, THUNK THUNK THUNK THUNK THUNK...

that was my point, though.  metal's THUNK THUNK may be in double time, but
it's the same beat.  one of my roommates in college used to call that
particular beat "helicopter drums".  picture it in your mind the next time
you hear someone pounding on a double bass -- you'll get a kick *snicker* out
of it.

i do listen to THUNK THUNK THUNK metal and like it, but there's other kinds of
metal, too.  metal went through its Record-Exec Pre-Fab (tm) years in the
eighties, and it still lingers today.

well, there are some guys coming in to change the overhead lights, so i'm
gonna go somewhere and try to stop laughing.  i just can't get that imaginary
voice out of my head saying THUNK THUNK THUNK THUNK THUNK...

lee
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:21:00 CDT
From:         CV01@SWTEXAS.BITNET
Subject:      Fresh from the FAQ machine

   Youse guys and gal have been doing a great job digging up the dirt on
old topics, etc.  Let me just add a few for fun:


Concept Albums: What a Reality
   wherein Tim and Dero shouted a lot -- refused to acknowledge each
   other's points and eventually gave up

Album Confessions: Skeletons in the Closet (Not That Record!! Not *That*
   Record!!!)

Music to "do the nasty" to (is a 3:00 song enough, or do we need a whole
   concept album?)

Copyright and dubbing (Dero threatens to turn us all in to the Tape Police)

Beer Wars (Miller Light -- piss or swamp water?)

NKOTB (Should they be allowed to live?  Why are we even talking about
   them?)

Milli Vanilli (Should they be allowed to live?  Why are we even talking
   about them?)

Sampling (Is it live, or is it MIDI?)

Heavy Metal vs. Hard Rock (including "where did the term heavy metal come
   from?")

The Allmusic Netiquette Monitor -- threat or menace?  ;*)


      bye,
      cmv ("chuck")
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 10:47:35 EDT
From:         Gary Hanley <ghanley@DG-WEBO.WEBO.DG.COM>
Subject:      Re: Import CD's
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              Aug 21, 92 9:59 am

Steve sed:

>     Chris Squires's "Fish Out of Water" is available as a Japanese import
>along with many things which are not available in the states.
>
>  Sound City 2000
>  P.O. Box 22149
>  Portland, Oregon  97222-0149
>
>     They have a catalog you can get by calling them.

	Steve, just curious, how much does Sound City want for "Fish
Out of Water"? If you have the catalog handy, that is.

--
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    Gary Hanley
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 11:29:03 CDT
From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Enya again
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Nancy Lellenberg Bentrup <nancyl@OSIRIS.CSO.UIUC.EDU> sez:

>I guess I just wanted some info on someone, not a long diatribe on why
>my musical tastes are inferior, whether you were serious or not.

I guess I did cut a little close to the bone.  My only intention was
to waste a little bandwidth and maybe give somebody a chuckle.

>I submit that my use of the newsgroup is different than yours.  I
>am reading as an information source, and really dont want to spend the time
>going back and forth with someone on my tastes vs yours.  Please dont
>flame me for this; it is just my preference.

Nancy, you ignorant slut.... ;-)

>I DO have a sense of humor and I did realize you perhaps wanted a response
>ridiculing your tastes.  I did get a mail message from someone else
>suggesting various tactics I could use to "get you back."

Go fer it, babe!  Why do you think I was so aggravating?  Anyone who's
working on reconciling software development methodologies in two
supposedly compatabile software development plans like I'm
doing now needs something from time to time to break the mood.

>I apologize if I came across badly.

No, it's really I who should apologize.  Being funny is hard (at least
for me) and no malice was intended.

At the risk of beating a dead horse, do give those other performers I
talked about (in my second post) a listen if you get a chance.

Bob (Enya) Crispen
crispen@foxy.boeing.com
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 07:54:49 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: cuz i'm a ponderer...
              13 Aug 1992 21:42:55 MDT from <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>

On Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:42:55 MDT weasels ripped my dress said:
>I apologize if that last blank message made it thru the list... I leaned over
>to answer the phone and my right breast managed to type ctl z and the message
>went off prematurely...  ooopsie  :)

 makes me want to be your keyboard

>
>I'd also like to suggest that we all take some mushrooms in honor of Mr. Cage.
>:)
 or in honor of friday, or support for the black-angus species, or because
 the traffic lights are working, or support the whales, or because somebody's
 b'day or as nike says "just do it"
>
>- Carol
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Info request: Adrian Belew
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:39:36 GMT

In article <ALLMUSIC%92081311420545@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET> writes:
>It's a mystery to me what happened to him.  I'd like to know as well.

I seem to recall a friend of mine who lives in Milwaukee saying he was
playing in a small club around there, not sure if he meant Milwaukee or
nearby... I understand he lives in Wisconsin and he does do that
occasionally.

He is on Zappa's Baby Snakes, but that is a long time ago.

Jeff
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:34:12 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Leonard's questions
X-To:         ALLMUSIC@AMERICAN.EDU

Sonia is absolutely right about letting yourself make mistakes.  A classical
background tends to lead one into perfectionism, which can be a hindrance
when you're trying to explore.

And Leonard:

>do you believe the use of drugs enchance or detract from one's musical
>ability.

Yes.

> Dead coming to town.....

Not likely in the near future.  Tour has been cancelled because of Garcia's
ill health.  But, they are a band everyone should see at some point.

Russ
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 10:37:00 LCL
From:         Kevin Sonney <KEVIN.DAVINCI@MHS.UNC.EDU>
Subject:      Dream (cream) Teams
X-To:         Walter Keller <ALLMUSIC@auvm.american.edu>

Walter -

ABout  three  (maybe  four?)  years  ago  Guitar Player  magazine
released  a  "sond page" single  of "Red House"  that hadn't been
available until  then. One of  the better versions of "Red House"
that Jimi did...

...If I could find my copy, I'd tape it for you...

-Kev
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 07:42:34 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Blues cd revue

Firstly i apologize for being hateful and i appreicate the list manager
"Gary i believe" for deleteing my erroneous postings and useless flaming
posting if's thats what happens, in the future i will behave in a civilized
manner and try to obey the rules, my apologies once again.

(1) Have you ever heard Smokin Joe Kubek ? If you have i'm sure you know
    that he may be the best 'new' blues guitarist in quite a while,IMHO
    any way i heard his first one (not available over here came form the
    netherlands. His second album available here is astonishing and I
    recommend it to any blues guitar fan - first one is "axe-man"  his second
    is steppin out texas style
(2) Mike Morgan and the crawl any one familiar with these guys their not
    smokin joe, but there very refreshing
(3) how about Vala Culp (sp) female blues john lee sits on crawling king
    snake and the results including John Lee's sound is!!the albun was produced
    by John Lee himself.
(4) Carol Fram Clarence Holiman verY   soulful blews if you've heard A.
    Funderfurghs newest  tell me what you what to hear she' does a
    song with sam call rent-man blues where they talk trash very unigue
    voice i recommend it if you like zydeco, soulful blues.
(5) Last but not least I'm sure with all the music intellect(seruously)
    that quite a fem of you have heard the Fleetwood Mac blues box set
    very very good , alos very expensive because it may not be available
    in the states.
(6) last but not least but several people make this list as enjoyable as
    it is to me and i 'd like to think MIke M. SONIA. S, Russ G., Gary H.
    Adam, Drummer, Jeff Beer, steve(blues thang) anf i'm sure i've left
    one or two out, but thanks for being a definite plus to the groups
    and one day when i hope to carry on in the same respectful and responsible
    way that the above mentioned netters. noe wipe away those tears and
    get with it.

p.s. just found out that a good friend is dating Sam meyers, this is
     am inter-racial relationship, but it's their business and not ours
     please refrain form any remarks to that effect. I just though it was
     neat, she rehibiltates blink-folk so it's fitting.
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:01:22 EDT
From:         pute <PATS@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      re: favorite German bands

hey - the record store in Providence with the crazy german music is
FAst Forward, on Thayer Street. Although it's one of several on the street,
you'll know it's the right one when you enter. A disarming selection of
new and bizarre music. - L.Ray
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Help me create a FAQ file
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:48:39 GMT

In article <ALLMUSIC%92082011505543@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> TZJ101@URIACC.BITNET (Michael Lehnertz (Drummer)) writes:
>   And the three T's. Toto, Tower and Vinnie. Ok, only two T's.
>
>                                         - Drummer -


That is the three T's for the category of Polyester Music.
Of couse, that is the censored ALLMUSIC reply.
The personal reply to the drummer is not so polite.

Jeff
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