HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: djk@boombox.apana.org.au (David Keegel)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Top level domains (was Re: Mixed format addresses)
Summary: USA monopolising .GOV is arrogant.
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 09:12:04 +1100
Reply-To: David.Keegel@apana.org.au
Organization: Private site, Melbourne, Australia.

In <930101.040025.7n1.rusnews.w165w@ricksys.lonestar.org> rick@ricksys.lonestar.org (Richard McCombs KB5SNF) writes:
>trsnyder@mcs.drexel.edu (Bob Snyder) writes:

>> From RFC 1836: The US Domain:
>[..]
>>    Their (sic) are no plans of putting all of the organizational domains .EDU
>>     .GOV .COM etc., under .US.

>Why not leave it that way?

Because (f'r instance) .GOV ought to either mean "Governments of some
kind, all over the world" or "World governments".  Well, that's what
seems logical to me, anyway.

Now tell me, would the US Govt be happy to have the Australian Bureau
of Statistics being called "abs.gov"?  Or does the US Govt claim to
govern the world?

Philosophicaly, I think the USA would look a lot less arrogant to the
rest of The Net if its govt depts/agencies were in gov.us or us.gov.
IMHO, the only govt with a right to be at the top level of .gov would
be the UN (unless they want to allow all comers).

Practically, I recognise that there are a *lot* of .gov sites out there
(in the USA at least), and that changing the domain for all of them is
about as likely as needing chains on your car in Hades.

But just because it *won't* happen, doesn't mean it *shouldn't* happen.

PS: Is there any discussion of the USA joining the rest of the world
    by ditching British Imperial measures and going metric?  At all??

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aka: djk@boombox.apana.org.au, djk@cs.mu.oz.au.  Formerly: djk@bby.com.au.
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: marcs@crpmks.uucp (Marc Snyder)
Subject: Re: FSUUCP eating newsgroups?
Organization: CIBA-GEIGY Corporation, Additives Division
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:46:21 GMT

I have had this problem since I began using the newer software in August.
The older software was having problems on my machine running under
Windows, so I began using the new software.  It works fine under Windows,
and works now with the Telebit UUCP spoofing.  However, news seems to be
broken.  I haven't been able to get an answer as to when this was going
to be fixed.
-- 
Marc Snyder                     UUCP: ...philabs!crpmks!marcs
System Administrator                  
Ciba-Geigy Corporation
Hawthorne, New York          Work: 914.785.2284      Play: 914.347.6440
From: dawson@willard.UUCP (Willard Dawson)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Proto to use with  HDB
Keywords: HDB, proto
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 08:40:29 EST
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

costello@muikku.pulp.nullnet.fi (Antti J{rvinen) writes:

> 
> 	This may be RTFM but my man pages referring to uucp are missing.

It is.  You should RTF Waffle documentation, wherein you'll discover
much, including the fact that only the g protocol (not to be confused
with the G protocol) is supported by Waffle.  There is a patch to make
Waffle's uucico work with the G protocol, which may be necessary in order
to talk to your uucico using large packets...

> 
> --
> Antti Jaervinen, costello@muikku.pulp.nullnet.fi, costello@tolsun.oulu.fi


-- 
dawson@willard.UUCP (Willard Dawson)
gatech!vdbsan!willard!dawson
emory!uumind!willard!dawson
Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: bruce@blilly.UUCP (Bruce Lilly)
Subject: Re: The UUCP network hasn't a tree structure (for some strange unexplained reason, was Re: Mixed format addresses)
Organization: Bruce Lilly
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 93 21:40:48 GMT
Reply-To: lilb@sony.compuserve.com (Bruce Lilly)

In article <1993Jan2.055818.25540@jack.sns.com>,
 posted to comp.mail.uucp,
 steve@jack.sns.com (J. Steven Harrison) wrote:
>In article <1992Dec28.024259.14707@blilly.UUCP> lilb@sony.compuserve.com (Bruce Lilly) writes:
>>In article <KEQPrAmGBh107h@boombox.apana.org.au> David.Keegel@apana.org.au wrote:
>>>  Personally, I don't want to update a file every time
>>>my feed adds another site, I just want to send everything to my feed.
>>>If they don't recognise it, they do the same (as long as there is a
>>>"tree" structure, and each node knows all the sites "below" it).
>>
>>What makes you think the UUCP network has a tree structure?
>
>Come on now Bruce have you ever heard of DNS?

Of course I have. But it has no relation to routing of mail messages
via UUCP protocol over a point-to-point physical network using serial links.

You did *read* Keegel's article, didn't you?

-- 
	Bruce Lilly		blilly!bruce@Broadcast.Sony.COM
					...uunet!sonyusa!sonyd1!blilly!bruce
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp,comp.dcom.modems
From: vances@xenitec.on.ca (Vance Shipley)
Subject: Re: pkcget: alarm xxx
Organization: XeniTec Consulting, Kitchener, Ontario, CANADA
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:54:07 GMT

The first thought that comes to mind is that you are experiencing flow
control problems.  Try to eliminate flow control from the picture and
see if your problem goes away.

I had a problem once that was similiar.  My links worked just fine for 
everything I was using them for; mail and some file transfers.  Then I
tried to get a disk image from SCO's uucp server.  It would fail very
consistently towards the end of the file with these alarm messages.
When I put it to SCO as a problem report I spoke to one of their uucp
gurus who explained something to me.  Because the disk image file had
a large section at the end which was empty the file transfer would
send a long string of NULLs.  The modem would be very efficient at
compressing these NULLs.  This would screw up the uucp timing badly.
Unfortunately I don't have the note any more and I can't remember the
exact details any more.

-- 
Vance Shipley 
vances@xenitec.on.ca         vances@switchview.com         vances@ltg.uucp
From: rick@ricksys.lonestar.org (Richard McCombs KB5SNF)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Top level domains (was Re: Mixed format addresses)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 93 04:00:25 CST
Organization: The Red Headed League; Lawton, Ok
X-Newsreader: rusnews v0.97

trsnyder@mcs.drexel.edu (Bob Snyder) writes:

> From RFC 1836: The US Domain:
[..]
>    Their (sic) are no plans of putting all of the organizational domains .EDU
>     .GOV .COM etc., under .US.

Why not leave it that way?
-- 
Internet: rick@ricksys.lonestar.org,      bo836@cleveland.freenet.edu
UUCP: ...!rwsys!ricksys!rick,   {backbones}!ricksys.lonestar.org!rick
BITNET: bo836%cleveland.freenet.edu@cunyvm  Fidonet: Richard McCombs @ 1:385/6
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: fkho@sni.ca (Frederick Ho)
Subject: Where can I find smartuucp by Msirota?
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf, Sietec Open Systems, Toronto, Canada
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 00:42:40 GMT

Can anyone direct me to an archive site for the smartuucp by Msirota?
Thanks,

	Fred

---
Frederick HO - Siemens Nixdorf, Sietec Open Systems
2235 Sheppard Ave.East,#1800 Willowdale, Ontario, Canada M2J 5B5
tel:(416)496-8510 x160, fax:(416)496-8524
Internet: fkho@sni.CA, UUCP: {...!uunet}!snitor!fkho, NERV: fkho.tor
-- 
Frederick HO - Siemens Nixdorf, Sietec Open Systems
2235 Sheppard Ave.East,#1800 Willowdale, Ontario, Canada M2J 5B5
tel:(416)496-8510 x160, fax:(416)496-8524
Internet: fkho@sni.CA, UUCP: {...!uunet}!snitor!fkho, NERV: fkho.tor
From: gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews)
Subject: Re: pkcget: alarm xxx
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 01:11:30 GMT

pcc@s1.gov (Philip C. Cox) writes:
>I have the following configuration: A SS2 with a Telebit worldbalzer,
>dialout's only. A SS-IPX with a Telebit T3000, never dials out, only
>answers. I can send/recieve mail and news from uunet to the SS2 with
>no problem. A third site calls the SS-IPX and transfers mail with no
>problems. I can also uucp a small file between the SSS2 & SS-IPX. If
>I try a large file, or if I try news, I get the following:
>
   [two debug dumps deleted]
>
>On the SS2(deltam), I get about the same info, except when I use -x9, then
>I get somethhing about waiting for a SYN, and requesting a RXMIT. I am NOT
>a uucp whiz, so anyone who feels thay could help with my rpoblem, I will 
>gladly post a summary.
>

One of the modems is using XON/XOFF flow control when you do your
transfers, and that's causing trouble when you transfer compressed
files (news) or large files.

Why doesn't it happen when the other sites do the transfer?
Because the modem configuration is different.

You're probably not using the modem's UUCP support when you have the
SS2 call the SS-IPX.  Remember that the T3000 can do UUCP protocol
support only when you make an MNP connection, not a V.42 connection.
See Page 1-5 of the T3000 Reference Manual that came with the T3000
and the WorldBlazer.  Have the SS2's dialer script set S180=3 when
it calls the SS-IPX.

  -Greg
-- 
:::::::::::::::::::  Greg Andrews  gerg@netcom.com  :::::::::::::::::::
ObGuindon:  The Carp Diet.  You place a carp in your refrigerator
            and it takes away your appetite.
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Xref: sparky comp.mail.uucp:2431 comp.mail.misc:4098
From: djk@boombox.apana.org.au (David Keegel)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp,comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: Mixed format addresses
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 09:11:08 +1100
Reply-To: David.Keegel@apana.org.au
Organization: Private site, Melbourne, Australia.

In <1hbmn9INNgrk@daisy.ee.und.ac.za> barrett@daisy.ee.und.ac.za (Alan P Barrett) writes:
>In article <e539VB6w165w@willard.UUCP>,
>dawson@willard.UUCP (Willard Dawson) writes:
>> For what it's worth, I've come across the same problem, mailer software
>> querying DNS on host.UUCP, on several "Internet" hosts.  If we accept
>> the statement (from more than one participant on these newsgroups) that
>> .UUCP is INVALID (typically shouted, as if that would make it somehow
>> more logical), the Internet hosts surely have no business in querying
>> DNS for that domain, yes?

>An Internet host cannot *know* that .UUCP in invalid unless it either
>    queries the DNS and gets back an error indication
>or  has special-case information somehow installed in its configuration.

What I have seen is special casing for top level UUCP and BITNET
domains.  I think munnari.oz.au is a really well set up machine for
Internet mail.  It has a class for fake top-level domains for which
it won't query the DNS (including UUCP and BITNET).  Any postmasters
who want a smart mail node would do well to follow suit.

>A good argument can be made for avoiding special-case information, and
>Internet hosts that believe such an argument have every right to query
>the DNS for *everything*, including .UUCP sites.  They will, of course,
>get back an error indication, which will tell them that the domain is
>invalid, and they will accordingly bounce the improperly addressed mail.

It depends on whether you want to be able to talk to the other networks
which are connected to The Matrix on *their* terms, rather than The
Internet's terms.  Their is a good argument for saying it's up to the
postmaster individually to decide whether to support well known but not
DNSed addresses or whether it isn't worth the bother.

This is how you get the situation where some sites can send to *.uucp
but some sites cannot, and this is A Good Thing.  Because that way
there is an incentive for people to get out of the .UUCP domain so we
may not need to support it (for global routing) in five years time.

>> We likely all agree on that one.

>Apparently not.

Based on what I could tell about the South African link (this may be
old news, are you still connected to PSG?) you can use all the bandwidth
you can get.  If you can stop your internet hosts querying root name
servers for .UUCP mail addresses it might improve your RTT & throughput.

In other words, if you don't agree about the "theoretical" arguments
about what should be done about .UUCP (now & long term), consider the
practical argument about reducing traffic.

-- 
<David.Keegel@apana.org.au>  <werple!tuple!boombox!djk>  Tel: +61 3 593-1460
aka: djk@boombox.apana.org.au, djk@cs.mu.oz.au.  Formerly: djk@bby.com.au.
From: msaletni@jade.tufts.edu (Michael J. Saletnik)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Mixed format addresses
Date: 22 Dec 92 14:25:34 GMT
Distribution: us
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

In article <mqSMrA6IBh107h@ssc60.sbwk.nj.us> tonyd@ssc60.sbwk.nj.us (Tony DeBari) writes:

>>town in the US by the name of "nowhere"?  :-)

>There's gotta be. :-)

Well, it's a little off the UUCP discussion, but Massachusetts has a
"Ware" and the signs that point to the Northern region of that town
are labeled:
		No Ware

						Michael
--
Michael J. Saletnik, Tufts University E'91 G'93
michael@binkley.ext.tufts.edu msaletni@pearl.tufts.edu
Manager of Computer Resources, Dept. of Civil Engineering
From: dave@frackit.UUCP (Dave Ratcliffe)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: The UUCP network hasn't a tree structure (for some strange unexplained reason, was Re: Mixed format addresses)
Date: 3 Jan 93 00:51:29 GMT
Organization: Data Factory Services, Harrisburg, Pa.


 In article <1993Jan2.002604.568@blilly.UUCP>, bruce@blilly.UUCP (Bruce Lilly) writes:
 > In article <1944@frackit.UUCP> (posted to comp.mail.uucp) dave@frackit.UUCP (Dave Ratcliffe) wrote:
 > >
 > > In article <1992Dec28.024259.14707@blilly.UUCP>, bruce@blilly.UUCP (Bruce Lilly) writes:
 > > >In article <KEQPrAmGBh107h@boombox.apana.org.au> David.Keegel@apana.org.au wrote:
 > > >>"tree" structure, and each node knows all the sites "below" it).
 > > >
 > > >What makes you think the UUCP network has a tree structure?
 > >
 > >Well, we DO have 'leaf' sites... :)
 > 
 > The existence of leaves does not imply a tree structure.
 > 
 > Repeat after me: All crows are black...

Repeat after me Bruce: That's a SMILEY up there. An attempt to inject a
bit of levity that apparently bypassed you. Sorry. 

-- 
 vogon1!compnect!frackit!dave@psuvax1.psu.edu            |  Dave Ratcliffe  |
 - or - ..uunet!wa3wbu!frackit!dave                      |  Sys. <*> Admin. |
                                                         | Harrisburg,  Pa. |
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: lampman@fullfeed.fullfeed.com (Ray Lampman)
Subject: SUMMARY: Weird! Sun can't UUCP to other Sun except without password?
Followup-To: comp.mail.uucp
Summary: Use "P_ZERO" pseudo-string in chat script to change transmitting parity.
Keywords: UUCP parity weird password problem
Organization: FullFeed - Public Access Usenet/E-mail (+1 608 246 2701 guest)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 06:29:50 GMT
Expires: Thu, 24 Jun 1993 07:11:14 GMT

_________________________________________________________________

The mystery is solved, thanks to all the people who replied.

   dem@meaddata.com (David Myers)
   "Drew Derbyshire" <ahd@kew.com>
   terry@zoe.network23.com (Terry)
   martini@heaven7.in-berlin.de (Martin P. Ibert)
   pete@tecc.co.uk
   brian@igc.apc.org (Brian J. Coan)
_________________________________________________________________

In article <1992Dec10.192406.13795@fullfeed.fullfeed.com> I wrote:
#
# When the two SunOS 4.1.1 machines are configured so  no  password
# is  needed  on  the UUCP-login, every thing works just great! The
# two uucico processes start  talking  and  files  are  transferred
# across the telephone/modem connection.
#
# However, when a password is installed, the calling Sun sends  the
# password, and the connection is dropped. The calling machine logs
# a bunch of "imsg<" strings and eventually gives up. The answering
# machine  shows  no indication of a successful login. Though getty
# does start a valid "login -p <username>" process.
#
# I've heard rumors that SunOS uses a different parity when sending
# or  receiving  a password. How can I configure one or both of the
# machines to handle password transmission, so  the  other  machine
# will  understand?  If these rumors are not true, does anyone know
# what's going on here? I'm totally baffled, help!!
_________________________________________________________________

I needed to transmit the password using a non-default parity set-
ting.  I  learned  my  uucico  process  understands  a variety of
pseudo-strings which can be included in  the  chat  scripts.  The
special  strings  cause uucico to change the configuration of the
transmitting serial device. My chat script now uses the  "P_ZERO"
string. I ended up with a chat script which looks like this:

   host time device speed phone "" \d in: foo word: P_ZERO "" bar

I learned that all pseudo-strings must be a  "stand-alone"  send-
them  strings. This usually requires an associated expect-nothing
string (""). In the chat script above, the "P_ZERO" string is in-
terpreted  by uucico causing it to change the transmitting parity
before the password (bar) is sent.
_________________________________________________________________

Thanks again to everyone who helped.

Ray.Lampman
System.Operator
FullFeed.Communications
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Ray.Lampman@FullFeed.Com ,^-_  FullFeed provides public access to
FullFeed Communications  L   `; Usenet news and E-mail, plus UUCP
Madison, WI 53704, USA   \ . J    connections to the Madison area
voice +1 608 246 4239     L__]   data +1 608 246 2701 login guest
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mime,comp.mail.mh
From: imp@boulder.parcplace.com (Warner Losh)
Subject: MIME RFC nit????
Organization: ParcPlace Boulder
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 02:11:46 GMT

mh 6.8 barfs on the following header:

Content-Type: message/external-body; access-type=local-file;
	name=/x/ap1/imp/Mail/inbox/29

but it does accept the following header:

Content-Type: message/external-body; access-type=local-file;
	name="/x/ap1/imp/Mail/inbox/29"

RFC1341 uses the following example (on page 40, ASCII version):

Content-Type: message/external-body; access-type=local-file;
	name=/u/nsb/Me.gif

It would seem to me that this example is in error, in light of the
parameter definitions on page 7, listing "/" as a tspecial, thus in
need of quoting.

Is this nit old news?  Does anybody care?

Warner
-- 
Warner Losh		imp@boulder.parcplace.COM	ParcPlace Boulder
I've almost finished my brute force solution to subtlety.
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mime
From: yehavi@vms.huji.ac.il
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mime
Subject: Re: MIME for VMS?
Date: 22 Dec 92 06:34:37 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

>Is there any public domain package that does MIME for VMS MAIL?

I am working on adding it to my HUyMailer. I've started it but had to
abandon it for a while. I hope next month (which is also the next year,
eh?) I'll be able to cintinue working on it.
                                                      __Yehavi:
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Yehavi Bourvine (4X6DD),     Phones: +972-2-584279,     H
Computation Center,                          +5686      H
The Hebrew University of Jerusalem,  +972-2-521574      H
Givat-Ram,  Jerusalem  91904                            H H H
                             Fax: +972-2-527349         HH H
BITnet:    YEHAVI@HUJIVMS                               H   H
InterNet:  YEHAVI@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL                       H
Israeli DECnet:  HUJICC::YEHAVI                       H
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mime
From: Nathaniel Borenstein <nsb@thumper.bellcore.com>
Subject: comp.mail.mime & info-metamail
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 17:34:35 GMT

As those of you who saw the newsgroup creation group know, I had promised
to gateway this newsgroup with info-metamail, to be renamed info-mime.

I just wanted to make it clear that THIS HAS NOT YET HAPPENED.  The two
are not yet interconnected.  If someone can tell me how to do this
easily, I'd be grateful.  I assume someone out there has a service
runniing, or at least software, but I haven't found it yet...  -- Nathaniel

Xref: sparky comp.mail.mime:51 comp.mail.misc:4078
From: d.m.roch@reading.ac.uk (Mike Roch)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mime,comp.mail.misc
Subject: rfc822+uuencoded -> MIME filter?
Date: 23 Dec 92 09:37:11 GMT
Organization: University of Reading Computer Services Centre

We use a mixture of mua's here; Lifeline on PC (uuencoded binaries), Eudora
on Mac (BinHexed binaries) and Pine (MIME encoded binaries) on Unix.

Pending the release of Pine for PC and Eudora 2 (MIME compliant), we 
occasionally need to convert an encoded binary attachment from one format 
to another.

Has anyone written filters to accomplish this, i.e.

RFC822 header + uuencoded (or BinHexed) -> MIME

or even the converse?


Mike

=======================================================================
Mike Roch, Computer Services Centre,             D.M.Roch@Reading.ac.uk
University of Reading, Whiteknights,                   Tel: 0734 318430
Reading, RG6 2AX, UK                                   Fax: 0734 753094
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mime
From: Nathaniel Borenstein <nsb@thumper.bellcore.com>
Subject: Re: comp.mail.mime & info-metamail
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 16:43:49 GMT

OK, plenty of people have now told me about the "newsgate" software, and
John Romine has graciously volunteered to set me up using his gateway
after the holidays.  Thanks to all who responded.  -- Nathaniel

Newsgroups: comp.mail.mime
From: tkevans@fallst (Tim Evans)
Subject: Metamail 2.4, Split Messages, and elm 2.4
Reply-To: tkevans@eplrx7.es.dupont.com
Organization: Tim Evans
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 13:03:26 GMT

I've just installed metamail 2.4 on a Sun4 and am having trouble
with split messages being properly handled by elm 2.4.  The 
second and subsequent part(s) of messages encoded/split
(by metasend, for example) are not being seen by elm as having
metamail content.  As a result, although reading the first 
part of the mult-part message brings up 'showpartial' as
expected, the subsquent parts are not properly interpreted.
Rather, they are simply displayed in their encoded format.

The prior eelase of metamail did not have this problem.
-- 
UUCP:		{rutgers|ames|uunet}!mimsy!wb3ffv!fallst!tkevans
INTERNET:	tkevans%fallst@wb3ffv.ampr.org
Tim Evans	2201 Brookhaven Ct, Fallston, MD 21047
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mime
From: haeb@pc60.demon.co.uk (Harry Broomhall)
Subject: Metamail under MS-DOS problems.
Distribution: world
Organization: C.I.C. Ltd
Reply-To: haeb@pc60.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 01:00:40 +0000

    Has anybody got Metamail to work under MS-DOS?   I am
very new at playing with MIME, and as I have UUPC here it
seemed that Metamail was the way to go.
    Problems so far:   1)  For ordinary 822 messages mm
uses 'cat'.   Now to most MS-DOS people cat is a furry
creature that occasionaly allows its slaves to touch a
keyboard!  :-)    Fortunately I found a cat from somewhere,
but this might be slightly difficult for some.   There is a
further problem that I suspect that any command that Metamail
calls must not be embedded in command.com, so that rules out
both copy and type, so it seems that cat needs to be included
in an MS-DOS based archive.
    2)  Mailers.txt suggests that to get it to work with UUPC
mail just change the 'Pager=' line in personal.rc.  This
unfortunately is not enough, as mail will use the pager when
displaying help, with weird results!   You need to change
'options=nopager' to 'options=pager'.   This reverses the way
the pager is used, and, incidently, won't call Metamail unless
requeted.
    Having got this far I'm a little stymied.  mailcap will
not work under MS-DOS, as it uses shell scripts that just
don't work there.  So what next?
    Regards,
         Harry.
-- 
Harry Broomhall                                  Telephone: 0892-539282    
haeb@pc60.demon.co.uk

#include "silly.ascii.graphics"
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh