HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tdrew@ocf.berkeley.edu (Andrew Ting)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48,comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: >> HP 128k ram card & Eqn Lib. card FOR SALE <<
Date: 16 Dec 1992 03:24:14 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: monsoon.berkeley.edu




I have a genunine HP 128k ram card for hp48sx available for $75
and an equation library card (version A) for $45.


Email tdrew@ocf.berkeley.edu

Andy.
From: akcs.mage@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (William H. Blohm)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: seq.uncwil.edu --> how do I log on?
Message-ID: <2b2e1a13.2372.1comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Keywords: log on

anonymous will work as a log-in only with ftp access.  Telnet users
need a regular log-in set up for them.  If "anonymous" was set up as
a log-in for telnet, it would not be the same as the one for ftp.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Horn5
From: Steve_Grant@kcbbs.gen.nz (Steve Grant)
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:09:52 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

Hello,
     Has ***ANYBODY*** got the program fly.src or fly. to work??? I 
get a xlib error when I press start. Can somebody please try there copy 
for me - **PLEASE**.

      Thanks

      Steve

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: dwoo@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Dennis Woo)
Subject: This is how tough a HP48sx can be !!!
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:49:34 GMT

Hi, 

I think HP48sx is a great machine and extremely rugged. 

Recently, I dropped my calculator on the road and a car went over it
(don't let this happens to you)!!!  I picked up the calculator and run
several tests to verify any damages. Well, to my surprise, everything
are functioning normally even the fragile IR diodes, ram card and the
LCD screen !!!! After carefully examined the calculator plastic case, I
found  the car went over the top portion of the machine. The plastic
case and the dedicate LCD screen have virtually no damage; not even a
scratch. The only damage is the minor deformation on the sheet metal
portion above the screen. Being a mechanical engineering graduate, I
found that is is remarkable that this little mahcine can take so much
pressure without major damage. Clearly, the HP team have put a lot of
effort to design such a rugged machine and it sure pays off. Good work,
HP!

NOTE: I don't work for HP and have no connection with them. This is my
personal comment based on a true event. Please do not try to dulplicate
this event.

*****************************************************************
*  Dennis Woo              Department of Mechanical Engineering *
*  E-mail: dwoo@unb.ca     University of New Brunswick          *
*  Tel: (506) 453-4513                                          *
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: trk@palm15.cray.com (Tim Kirby)
Subject: 48sx Manual question
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:58:06 CST

A quick (possibly dumb) question. I have seen several people refer to their
"two volume manual" that came with their 48sx. I only seem to have one, called
the "HP 48 Owner's Manual", HP part No. 00048-90091, Edition 1, November 1991.

Was there a second printing ... or ... was I short manualed ... or is there
another explanation

Thanks

Tim
--
Tim Kirby --------- Cray Research Inc., Eagan, MN, USA ----------- trk@cray.com
Disclaimer: I disclaim, therefore I am. Cray Research is not responsible for me,
my views or anything I say ............... They do, however, pay my mortgage ;-)
When all else fails, Immortality may always be assured by spectacular error(JKG)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: d307@wartburg.auc.dk (D307)
Subject: Asc-> and checksum problems
Keywords: Checksum and asc
Reply-To: d307@wartburg.auc.dk
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 09:16:10 GMT


Hi

Does anyone know how to calculate the checksum, asc-> needs as
the last charaters in the string??

thanx in advance

Soren Corneliussen
Aalborg University Center
Email : cornell@aud1.aud.auc.dk
     or d307@kom.auc.dk
 
:-)    :-)    :-)    :-)    :-)
From: jorchard@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (Jeff Orchard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: uuencode - I need it!
Date: 11 Dec 92 16:45:35 GMT
Reply-To: jorchard@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca
Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine

Our ftp and telnet is not working right now, but I would like to
get my hands on the UUENCODE (and I guess UUDECODE, if there is such
a thing).  I don't really know what I'm asking for.  I just know that
a lot of the software I have is uuencoded.

So could some kind sole please send me the required software?
I have ->ASC and ASC->, so that's not a problem.  Also, if there
is any secret to loading/using the uuencode, please let me know
because I am quite new to the HP-48SX scene.

Thanks in advance!
Jeff Orchard
jorchard@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca
From: jmr@aaron.ece.psu.edu (Joe Reinhardt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: need GCD and LCM
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:10:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Pennsylvania State University, State College

Hi, I know I saw a GCD and LCM program posted somewhere for the
HP48, but I can't find it on any of the archive sites.  Can
someone help me find it?

Thanks - Joe
jmr@ruth.ece.psu.edu
From: akcs.joehorn@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Joseph K. Horn)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 12:40:04 GMT
Subject: Re: Circle drawing.
Message-ID: <2b2b2e64.2395.1comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

> Does anyone have a routine that draws a circle quickly?

Both Goodies Disks #5 and #7 have machine-language programs called CIRCLE
which do exactly that.  *VERY* fast.  Check 'em out.

-jkh-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: f_quan@pavo.concordia.ca (QUAN, FEDERICO)
Subject: help with uncompress utilities
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Concordia University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 07:52:00 GMT

Hello, 
  I have a few questions about the compression programs that are used.
so sorry if this is a FAQ.  I need help uncompressing a file that is
tar.Z I have u16.exe and tar.exe but have no idea on how to use them.
can you please explain? If I need other programs please tell me where 
they are so I can ftp and get them. 

thanks a lot, 
Fred
please Email at f_quan@pavo.concordia.ca
From: meyer@acsu.buffalo.edu (DJM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Radio for HP48sx
Date: 16 Dec 92 02:22:44 GMT
Organization: UB

kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad) writes:

>>In article <TAL.2@sarpih.no> TAL@sarpih.no (Tor Atle Lunde) writes:
>>
>>> This subject facinates me a lot.  I have been thinking of this since 
>>>i made a chat program for the hp48sx, and i hope this problem will be solved 
>>>nice and easlily!  FM receivers can be bought (and made) very cheap and 
>>>small, but the transmitter makes some sort of problems.  Of course, since I 
>>>am thinking of using this on school with my classmates, we cannot have 
>>>walkie-talkies on our desk.  So does anyone know of a transmitter that is 
>>>compact enough to use at school ??

>I know this isn't what you wanted, but, if you stretch the definition of
>"radio" a little, you already have one built in -- the IR port!  This built
>in radio just happens to be transmitting up in the GHz range and has
>a line of sight transmission pattern. :-)

>It'll happily zap programs, etc. to someone all of... 6 inches?... away.  
>The IR LED has plenty of zing in it, but HP hobbled the receiver so that
>people wouldn't be tempted to CHEAT ON EXAMS.  Ahem.

>(This is actually an interesting move... it lets the 48 still act like a
>remote control, vs. hobbling the IR LED which would save a lot of power,
>but diminish the 48's hacker value.  Hmm.)


Now,
How do we go about un-hobbling...
From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Power of 2
Date: 20 Dec 92 11:03:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: miser.STEVEV.92Dec20030331
Organization: University of Oregon Chemistry Stores
NNTP-Posting-Host: miser.uoregon.edu
In-reply-to: FELSON_ADJ@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU's message of 19 Dec 1992 19:22:42 -0600

Kenneth Cooke writes:
! << NOT DUP 1 + OR 1 + #0 == >>

There's an even better solution than this.

\<< # 0h SWAP OVER + DUP 1 - AND == \>>

This works on both real numbers and binary integers, and
recognizes all powers of 2 less than 10^12 on the HP 48.

Note that for any binary number, subtracting one will toggle the
bits from the least-significant bit up to the least-significant 1
bit.  Therefore, DUP 1 - AND will strip the least-significant 1
bit from a binary integer.  If a binary integer is a power of
two, it will have only one 1 bit.
--
Steve VanDevender 	stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu
"Bipedalism--an unrecognized disease affecting over 99% of the population.
Symptoms include lack of traffic sense, slow rate of travel, and the
classic, easily recognized behavior known as walking."
From: akcs.ejf@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (edward joseph fasula)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: XPURGE & SMARTROM
Message-ID: <2b2be7bc.2381.2comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

Here was my problem:

After I installed SmartROM from disk, I noticed the calculator
warm-booted, wile on, without being touched.  It didn't really bother me
then the following happened:

1). I used the CSTMENU command
2). Started a spreadsheet.
3). Exited, saved it, then XPURGED it.
4). Moved to another directory and started a saved spreadsheet, then
5). exited and did a few simple calculations
6). let the calculator sit there for a few minutes on, untouched
7). watched it warm-boot itself;
8). Your (JKH's) version of AUTOPORT ran << 1 MENU MYFLAGS >>.
9). Now the SmartROM CST is the current menu;
10). I pressed the spreadsheet icon
11).  There_may_have been an undefined XLIB error.
12).  "Try to recover memory;yes/no" appears

13).  I stopped using XPURGE and the CSTMENU commands: no problems
14).  I started unimg XPURGE again: still OK so far

I still don't use the CSTMENU command, as now I think it could be the
AUTOPORT program that is SmartROM's CST menu's undoing, and I don't
really need the functions it offers.  

I think it's strange that it only happend to_my_calculator.  I did have
the TDS Structural Analysis card in at the time, other than that I didn't
have anything really unusual loaded.

thanks for the message-
EF

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: menaf00@DMI.USherb.CA (FRANCOIS MENARD)
Subject: HP48 (sending librairies over IR)
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke -- Dept. d'Informatique
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 07:49:01 GMT

Hello,

The other day, I was going to give my friens the ANT game over IR, but
since it is in an attached library, it says Wrong argument type when I try
to send it...   Is there a way to send attached librairies over IR ?

Merci d'avance

-=Francois=-

-- 
                 Francois D. Menard -- Menaf00@DMI.USherb.CA
Les opinions refletes dans ce message ne sont pas redevables aupres de FMMO
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        Francois Menard, Groupe des Utilisateurs OS/2 de Sherbrooke
From: akcs.joehorn@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Joseph K. Horn)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 12:40:04 GMT
Subject: Re: <-RPL-> LIB, <-LIB-> LIB, and SRPL.LIB
Message-ID: <2b2b2ece.2371.2comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

heavy-metal@vnet.ibm.com [<No Identification>] writes:

> ...in the case of SRPL.LIB, when it will be available?

Brian Maguire is working on the library itself; the owner's manual is
only in rough form; and Brian wants to include a guide to System RPL
programming, which hasn't even been written yet.

Bottom line: nobody knows when SRPL.LIB will become available, but it
will definitely NOT be real soon.

-jkh-
From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: need downloading help
Date: 18 Dec 92 00:02:15
Organization: University of Oregon Chemistry Stores
NNTP-Posting-Host: miser.uoregon.edu
In-reply-to: Kevin Michael Pogany's message of Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:35:01 -0500 

In article <4fACFpW00Uh7E3Y2RK@andrew.cmu.edu> Kevin Michael
Pogany <kp0w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

       I tried to download the ascii file for asc-> and <-asc by following
   the directions stated after the file... but everytime I try to download
   it, I get an error invalid syntax on the last line, namely RPL_END and I
   haven't got the slightest idea what is wrong... the term parameters were
   correct and packets were being received so I am at a loss for a cause...

Do not include the line with the RPL_END in the file that you
download into the HP 48.  The HP 48 assumes that the file will
contain only the %%HP header and a single RPL object (for \->ASC
strings, a single string object delimited by quotes).  Any
material following that RPL object will cause a syntax error when
downloaded.

The lines like RPL_BEGIN and RPL_END were probably inserted into
the file when it was packaged for posting.  They are indicators
to you where to extract the downloadable HP 48 object, not
delimiters understood by the HP 48 itself.
--
Steve VanDevender 	stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu
"Bipedalism--an unrecognized disease affecting over 99% of the population.
Symptoms include lack of traffic sense, slow rate of travel, and the
classic, easily recognized behavior known as walking."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: fee@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Using progr. calcs...journal article
Date: 20 Dec 92 19:42:26 GMT
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand


	Re: Supercalcs such as HP48SX in exams.

I am expecting an article that I wrote on the capabilities of the HP48SX
to be published in an upcoming issue of Chemical Engineering Education.
Keep your eyes open for it in your university library. In it I urge other
educators to treat calculators seriously as a tool which every engineer
uses frequently and to not only stop banning the latest and greatest
from examinations but to incorporate teaching material that uses
calculators to a greater extent.

My article will probably raise a few hackles and will DEFINITELY not be
universally approved but at least it will bring the debate to the
educators. This is exactly what I intend.

By the way, at my university I recently had to change a subtle regulation
that was being proposed not by academics but by administration (!) which
would REQUIRE academics to specify the exact calculators allowed into
their examinations. All other academics present were unaware of the
restrictions and burdens this would impose and would have approved the
regulation without thinking about it merely to get on with the meeting.

This is rather typical of how such restrictions arise - not necessarily
after due consideration but often through ignorance and expedience.

Regards,
Conan.

PS: Keep plugging away at your prof.s.



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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Friday, 11 Dec 1992 15:48:23 EST
From: <IO11103@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: FTP sites needed

Does any one have a list of ftp site which have programs and other HP-48
stuff?  Any addresses would be appreciated.  Could you please mail me
anything at io11103@maine.maine.edu.  Thank you in advances!

Kristoffer Fleming
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: brianw@iat.holonet.net (Brian Walsh)
Subject: new BBS
Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access BBS: 510-704-1058/modem
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:11:09 GMT


 
                New bulletin board system for HP handhelds
               --------------------------------------------
I have started a small public access BBS for support of the HP48, 95, 41,
42, 28, and 71/75.  File areas include all Goodies Disks, Frequently Asked 
Questions, etc., with `best of the Internet' to come.  News, message areas,
and bulletins are also available.  First time callers have full access 
privileges and 60 minutes per day.
        BBS Name: Nybble's Byte
        Telephone number: (708) 304-0666
        Hours of operation: 11pm to 8am only Central Time, 7 days/week
        8 data bits, no parity, 1 stop bit
        Speeds up to 14400bps V.32bis (no 300 baud please)
        V.42bis, MNP5, LAPM, ARQ supported
        Colorful ANSI/PC graphics
 
The board will be up through this weekend and will resume operation 
after the holidays.

-- 
-- Brian Walsh
   brianw@holonet.net
From: ghilardi@urz.unibas.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: new equation card
Date: 14 Dec 92 08:03:22 MET
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland

I heard of that new equation library card by HP. Is there a possibility to
get an Update from HP?



Kindly,


Nico

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad)
Subject: Re: Radio for HP48sx
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 16 Dec 92 01:34:33 CST

In article <guest.3.724432502@dhhalden.no> guest@dhhalden.no (GJEST) writes:
>
>Hrmph!	Why do you all get this wrong....Douglas and Joel : my intensions 
>were strictly limited to making a net of hp's on my school, and NOT to cheat 
>on any exam....as if I should need that :)  

Ok, I'll buy that. :-)  That are some small packet radio boxes out there
that'll hook up to small 2 meter handheld radios that would let you do all
this through the 48's serial port, but it's no where near as small as you
want it.

						---Joel Kolstad
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: kcooke@stein.u.washington.edu (Kenneth E. Cooke)
Subject: Re: Power of 2
Keywords: log, program
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:49:46 GMT

akcs.joehorn@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Joseph K. Horn) writes:

>flynn@sabrina.dei.unipd.it [Salvatore A. Colomba] writes:

>> I have a better one [to test for a power of 2]; I've not tested it,
>> but it should work in principle...
>> << DUP LN 2 LN / IP 2 ^ - >>
>> It should give zero only if the number is EXACTLY a power of
>> two...:)

>Doesn't work at all.  I assume you meant

>  << DUP LN 2 LN / IP 2 SWAP ^ - >>

>which usually works, but fails for 2^19, 2^24, 2^29, 2^34, and 2^39.
>Replacing the LN's with LOG's fixes all these cases but then fails for
>2^6, 2^8, 2^35 and 2^38.

>Algorithms which work in principle often fail in practice due to
>round-off errors.  Good hypotheses deserve the honor of being tested.

>-jkh-

Here is a cleaner way to check for a power of 2.  As Joe points out, you 
should not depend on "ideal" mathematics when working with a limited-
precision machine.  You can sometimes get away with this kind of thing on
the HP48, because it has an EXCELLENT implementation of floating-point
arithmetic (thanks in part to Prof. Kahan).  My only regret is that they
threw out the full IEEE version in the HP71.

This is a user-code translation of the power-of-2 check in FFT.  If your
binary word-size is N, it will work for 0 to 2^N - 1 (for binary integers).
It considers #0 and #1 to be powers of 2.

<< NOT DUP 1 + OR 1 + #0 == >>

The first "1 +" will fill the first 0.  If there was only one 0, the second
"1 +" will cause it to roll-over to #0.  Sorry if this makes no sense :)

Ken Cooke
N7VFE
kcooke@u.washington.edu
From: p690851@austin.lockheed.com (p690851)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: news archive sites needed
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:29:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: "Lockheed Austin Division, 6800 Burleson Rd, Austin, TX 78744"

Howdy!

I have a friend who has access to the net but not to news.
Would somebody please send him a list of comp.sys.hp48/palmtops news
archive sites.

Please mail response to vervalin@oldcolo.com

Thanks,
Brett
-- 
Blessed are the programmers for they shall automate the earth.

Brett J. Larsen, inet: brettl@austin.lockheed.com, office: (512)386-4313
From: akcs.totofgs@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Christophe NGUYEN)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:40:03 GMT
Subject: Re: Circle drawing.
Message-ID: <2b2b8894.2395.2comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

Hi !

You can use the Circle Bresenham's algorithm to draw a Circle on the
screen...
It uses only Integer Calculus...so you can program it in ML...

See ya,

Christophe NGUYEN. (p6ip392@ibm1.cicrp.jussieu.fr)

Xref: sparky comp.sys.hp48:6258 comp.sys.handhelds:2558 comp.sys.palmtops:3976
From: willt@ocf.berkeley.edu (William Ting)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48,comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Virtually New IR HP printer for sale
Date: 11 Dec 1992 18:04:54 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: monsoon.berkeley.edu



I have a virtually new HP82240B printer package for sell.  
This package includes AC adaptor, 6 rolls of paper, and the 
printer with manual and registration card.
I'll ship it for $90
Please Email reply.  Thanks.





Will
email: willt@ocf.berkeley.edu or wting@ucsee.berkeley.edu



Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: chewy@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Chewy)
Subject: Remote Controll
Organization: Hitlers allies
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:33:34 GMT

I am pretty sure that this has been discussed before in this
group, so I will be brief.  Can you use your 48 for a remote 
controll?  If this is in the faq somewhere, or somewhere simple
please tell me.  Thanks.

-Matt                        ...chewy@sage.cc.purdue.edu...
From: slp9k@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Books on Programming?
Date: 18 Dec 92 13:40:59 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

	Does anyone know of a tutorial book for programming the 48SX?  I have
read the manual and have the Programmer's reference guide.  I was looking for
something a little more explanatory.  I'm very interested in programming and
would like to use my Christmas Break to begin.  Anyhelp is apprecited.  Thanx.

-- 
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From: rrd@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ray Depew)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:08:12 GMT
Subject: Re: UNIT VECTOR PROGRAM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA