From: efsv09@castle.ed.ac.uk (J Shaw)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,eduni.football
Subject: Re: Let's All Wind Up Rangers (na na na na)
Date: 19 Nov 92 12:54:36 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

eftv20@castle.ed.ac.uk (G C Stewart) writes:


>Ultimately, the stats can lead us to no other conclusion other than
>that Rangers are the best side going at the moment, but that attribute
>constitutes a lot more than the quality of outfield play. The English
>postings on Arsenal make very valid points. I'm only trying to get over
>the point that Celtic are a more stylish, attack minded and skillful
>side than Rangers. The fact that Celtic are so far behind so early 
>indicates that they have been quite a bit inferior in other departments.

Well for a change I have to disagree. I certainly think that Rangers are
as attack minded as Celtic, and far more stylish and skillful. However I
do agree that they are inferior in other departments!!

>I can appreciate a mild amount of indignance from the Currant Buns -
>they're on a high and it must seem very easy for them these days.
>However, they are in danger of allowing their euphoria up to serious
>self-delusion levels. Rangers may be an attack minded side on their day,
>but it wasn't that aspect of their play which gained them their
>victories over Leeds and Celtic. Anyone can see that!

There is no self-delusion involved. Against Leeds we scored early, which
left Leeds having to chase the game. Leeds pinned Rangers back
successfully but could not break through, and Rangers attacked Leeds
whenever they had the opportunity, with style, skill and speed, and most
importantly success. I have to admit that Rangers probably didn't play
well at Celtic Park, and looked very tired towards the end. Celtic were
more attack minded during the game, but showed that they are not very
good at it! Lets face it, in a league game that meant much more to
Celtic than it did to Rangers, with Rangers tiring and without BOTH
their central defenders, Celtic still couldn't score. Again Rangers when
they attacked did so with skill, speed and success.

>Anyway, when are Celtic going to turn round and fulfill all this faith
>I have in them. Well they may never do so, because now they are facing a
>severe test of character - and whether they have sufficient quantities
>of that has to be debatable. Still we live in hope. Ultimately the 
>burden of responsibility falls on the management - they have made
>mistakes this season, but a couple of reasons why Celtic have struggled
>may be the less impressive form of McStay this term and the failure to
>knit together a composed forward, which hasn't been helped by the 
>disappearence of Nicholas into the reserves. Once these two situations
>have been rectified,we may see a Celtic side performing closer to its
>potential.

Lets face it what did you think was going to happen when Mcstay stayed.
Did you honestly believe that was the answer to all the problems? I mean
he had been in the team for the previous 4 years. As for Nicholas IMHO
he is finished as a top level performer. Celtic badly lack a goal scorer
as it is obvious Creaney does not have the consistency needed at the
moment. Whats wrong with Payton? I doubt if Slater is the answer to the
goalscoring problem. A man who has not scored for 70 games!! I think
only Andy Goram has gone that long without a goal in the Rangers side. 

>Hands Off Our Water, btw

 I totally agree. If the English are short of water then the next time
 it rains let them stick a bath out in the back garden.


                              Cheers 
			      
		              James