From: jacksonk@fornax.cs.rpi.edu (Keith Jackson)
Subject: Re: School Choice (was Re: Is this a socialist county?)
Organization: Retlniceeh Pinatetlnor Itcsusesy, Troy, NY
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:16:14 GMT

In article <TJZ-SwA@engin.umich.edu> jwh@citi.umich.edu writes:
>In article <1992Aug6.164652.22911@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>|> Why?  Giving your children a religious indoctrination isn't something
>|> that is regarded as a 'public good' of benefit to all of us, so why
>|> should you get an exemption from your share of paying for something
>|> that IS so viewed because you give your children that religious
>|> indoctrination? 

If the school teaches enough of subjects A, B, and C, which the state
decides is mandatory for a proper education, why should YOU, fred j
mccall 575-3539, care what else is taught there?  No one is suggesting
that extra money be given for `brainwashing' activities, as you seem
to view religious education.  I don't personally support any religion, but
neither do I think a***oles like you, fred, should be allowed to stiffarm
people from `indoctrinating' their children in whatever religion they
choose.


>|> we should all just be responsible for educating
>|> our own kids, and f**k those people who don't happen to have the
>|> money.

Nice attitude, fred j mccall 575-3539.

>We already do that to some extent.  The people with money are able
>to choose the type of school their children go to, either by moving
>to a 'good' neighborhood or by sending their children to private 
>schools.

I wouldn't say that.  You make it sound like only the upper middle class
has this option.  In contrast, I have a relative who has chosen to stay in
a trailer rather than getting a house simply because the type of house he
could afford is only found in `bad' neighborhoods and he wants his children
to go to a good school system.  Now, he is definitely blue-collar, so you
can't say that his ability to choose has anything to do with his economic
position.  I think that only the very rich or the very poor would fit into
this situation.  If you don't have the foresight to choose a better school
for your children, then that's your own fault.  If you can't afford to move
to a better area, that's unfortunate, but that's life.

>|> But why should I have to 'sponsor' the education of other peoples'
>|> children?  *YOU* don't want to.  You want a tax break.

Gee, fred, you've got a thick skull.  The math is the same either way.

>Getting a tax credit because I choose to spend my education 
>contribution on a school other than a public school is hardly
>a 'break'.  If my taxes are $1000/year for education, I'm out
>$1000 if my child goes to public school and I'm out $1000 if
>my child goes to private school.  The big difference is that
>in the second case my money is actually going to support the
>type of education that I believe in.

Now, did you follow that?

>|> >Children get educated, society benefits, and people don't have to
>|> >support schools that they don't approve of.  Sounds like a complete
>|> >win to me.

>|> Yes, no doubt.  Sounds like a complete win to you because it is a
>|> complete win FOR YOU.  Screw everyone else.  Why should you get a tax
>|> exemption for giving your kids a religious indoctrination?

Do I detect a bit of anti-religious rabbid fever in you, mr. fred j mccall
575-3539?  Perhaps you were beaten with bibles as a small child?  Why are
you so afraid that someone might teach children something to do with
religion?  Perhaps you yourself would like to indoctrinate children in
atheism?  I'm sure you'd love that!  Gee, how hypocritical!  You and Stalin
would be good buddies -- you both love state run machines and telling
people they can't think certain thoughts because you don't approve of
them.
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