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From: mt@support.aii.com
Subject: Re: NBC Olympic coverage ...
Organization: Automation Intelligence, Inc.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:23:53 GMT

In article <kjmm+!a.rlerdorf@netcom.com> rlerdorf@netcom.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) writes:
>rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ramakrishna Chada) writes:
>
>>This is not the only stupid comment he made during the parade of Nations. 
>>Talking about the cannibalism of the king of some country(I dont remember), 
>>hinting something with "who knows what methods they use to win the olympic 
>>medals" against china(He made this after referring to the use of drugs by
>>East German athletes), saying Albania's bank balance is  $500 and commenting
>>that "India is such a poor nation that it cannot afford astro turfs"(India 
>>may be a poor nation but it definitely has astro-turfs for hockey) all show
>>a lack of common sense, arrogance and ignorance. Too bad that he is out 
>>there for a top broadcasting agency spreading his ignorance and the image
>>of arrogance.
>
>Yes, I found his complete ignorance in just being able to locate half of
>these countries on a map to be quite pathetic.  In fact, he started off 
>saying something about how he had to go home and get out his Atlas to find
>Barcelona when it was announced that Barcelona would host the next Olympics.
>Then he made some kind of comment to the effect that before the Olympics
>Barcelona practically didn't exist.  That's like saying Montreal or
>Munich didn't exist before the Olympics.
>
Right ! kind like when he was trying to compare Barcelona/Catalonia with 
Seoul/S.Korea.(NorthKorea against SouthKorea vs Catalonia against Spain !).
I thought that the opening ceremony fell short ( Not enough time devoted
to those wonderful opening dances ) But somehow NBC came strong during the
finally.During the opening of the theme when Hercules appeared ,
Costas again delivered another stupid remark about Steve Reeves
never having looked like this Hercules.
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From: caplan@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Joshua Caplan)
Subject: fairness
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:42:23 GMT

Look I'm American.  I want Americans to win as many golds as they give out at
these olympics.  I love the dream team.  I like watching swimming and
diving.  But I can't believe how partisan NBC is being, almost to the
point of manipulation.  When I used to watch the olympics the
awards presentation consisted of THREE people and THREE flags.  On NBC
(prime-time, I didn't spring for the other stupidity) if an American
wins the gold we get his/her face COMPLETELY FILLING THE SCREEN for the
entire anthem.  If an American doesn't win, forget the awards presentation.
If you don't have quick eyes you won't catch the mention of other country's
participants, medal-winners or otherwise, in the form of a wash of
illegibly small graphics.  And the commentary (especially diving) is making
me embarassed.  Non-Americans are belittled, Americans are aggrandized, with
no regard to their performance in their respective sport.  Finally, wouldn't
we rather see some games than MUSIC VIDEOS about Pablo Morales?  How about a
glimpse of soccer?  Hey, the US beat Kuwait, why not a little of that?  How
about field hockey, or a demonstration sport other than gymnastics?  Just
for a few minutes.  I keep reading that the coverage is better now than in
Seoul.  Gosh, I'm glad I didn't watch any of that.

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From: ping@summit.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Ping Ding)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Proud and Angry
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:24:07 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

> Sorry to hear it.  I was being quite serious.  If given a choice between
> watching a technically perfect but somewhat boring Chinese diver who's
> guaranteed to win and watching an older, flawed but spirited American
> diver, I'm going to make the second choice every time.  At least the
> American had expressions on her face.
Is the boring because that you are a American, but not a Chinese?
> 
> I don't know the first thing about Olympic Diving.  I'm not watching
> it for the technical angle, I'm watching it for the human, competitive
> angle.  The Chinese diver could have been a robot, and nobody would
> have noticed.  Period.
Please respect other people's hard working. Fu, Mingxia is only 12 years  
old, but she works very very hard. That is why she has today's  
performance. Imaigine that if a 12 years old American girl could do this,  
what you will think about?
From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: US volleyball victory _reversed_ to Japan. Film at 11.
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:09:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvmark.1992Jul27.170958.48643
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <Bs1ww9.CzL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jbs21045@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Joe Sterbenc) writes:
>Heard it on the radio this morning:
>
>The US's close victory over Japan yesterday has been overturned and awarded
>to Japan by a committee. Seems a US player yelled at the ref, and no penalty
>point was awarded to Japan. That point would have - eventually - won the
>match for them. The committee gave them the point and the match.
>

Just a small point... On of the reasons it was overturned was because it
was the decisive point.. ie.. Japan had match point and the right call would
have given them the point, and thus the match.  If it had happened earlier
in the match, the ol' "would it affect the outcome" comes into effect.

>
>-- 
>============================================================================
>Joe Sterbenc - jbs21045@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu & joe-mama@uiuc.edu - U of Illinois
>	How many more days will I have this darling account?
>============================================================================


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From: rachele@cs.rice.edu (Rachele Harless)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: SWIMFINAL: Result-W's 200m Backstroke
Keywords: swimming
Date: 31 Jul 92 20:00:34 GMT
Expires: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 05:00:00 GMT
Organization: Rice University, Houston

SWIMMING - Women's 200m Backstroke FINAL
========================================
at Picornell Pool, Montjuic
 
World Record		2:06.62		held by Krisztina Egerszegi (HUN)
Olympic Record		2:07.34		held by Krisztina Egerszegi (HUN)

Gold	EGERSZEGI, Krisztina		HUN	2:07.06		New OR
Silver	HAAS, Jana			GER	2:09.46
Bronze	STEVENSON, Nicole		AUS	2:10.20
------
4	LOVELESS, Lea			USA	2:11.54
5	SIMCIC				NZL	2:11.99
6	POLL, Sylvia			CRC	?
7	SZABO, Tunde			HUN	?
8	HABLER, Leigh			AUS	?
 
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From: chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: John Tesh
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:38:51 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
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chuanli@remus.rutgers.edu (chuanli) writes:
: I watched the women gymnastic team competition last night, and found
: John Tesh very anoying.

Is this John is the same one of Entertinement Tonight on ABC?
If so, how come NBC hired him? I am of the opinian that ABC and
NBC are arch rivals. Somebody please clarify this.

---Sreehari
: people (experts) speak out. Agree?
: How did he get the job anyway???
: 
: 
: *************************************************************************
: Never try to push to hard !!!!!!
: *************************************************************************
: Frank 
: Rutgers University
: New Brunswick, NJ.
From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Hockey: Tuesday
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:36:26 GMT
Reply-To: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services


Australia b Egypt 5-1
India b Argentina 1-0
CIs b Malaysia 7-3
bye,

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RAM            		       BULLS -93	

Politicians' statements tend to have a low specific gravity.
They carry less weight  than their volume would suggest.
		- Jonathan Miller
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From: rachele@cs.rice.edu (Rachele Harless)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: re: Posting results (update #4)
Summary: almost there!
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:00:41 GMT
Organization: Rice University, Houston

We now have volunteers for the following sports: archery, athletics,
basketball, badminton, baseball, boxing, cycling, diving, equestrian,
fencing, field-hockey, gymnastics, handball, modern pentathlon,
rowing, soccer, swimming, sync-swimming, table-tennis, tennis,
volleyball, water-polo, weightlifting, wrestling, and yachting.

We also have a volunteer for the medal counts.
.....................................................................
However, we still need/want people for: canoeing, judo, shooting, and
any other sports I may have inadvertently left off (such as the
demonstation sports which are not on my official list.)

If you would like to "cover" one of the above sports for this
newsgroup, please email me and let me know.  You do not necessarily
need to be knowledgeable about the sport... all we need is for someone
who can post the scores.

Thanks,
Rachele
email: rachele@cs.rice.edu
From: rachele@nysa.cs.rice.edu (Rachele Harless)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: GYMNASTICS: some results from men's compulsories
Summary: The Unified Team leads the men's gymnastics (of course)
Date: 27 Jul 1992 23:19:17 GMT
Expires: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 05:00:00 GMT
Organization: Rice University, Houston

As expected, the Unified Team has blasted through the compulsories,
occupying the top four individual positions.  Vitaly Scherbo is in
first place with 59.000 out of 60 points.

Results I know so far:

-- Men's Team Standings after the compulsory competition

1. EUN 292.650
2. CHN 290.025
3. JPN 289.375
4. GER 287.925
5. USA ~285

-- Men's Individual Standings after the compulsory competition

1. Vitaly Scherbo, EUN, 59.000
2. Valery Belenky, EUN, 58.775
3. Igor Korobchinski, EUN, 58.525
4. Grigori Misutin, EUN, 58.500
5. Andreas Wecker, GER, 58.450
* 6. Li Xiaoshuang, CHN, 58.250
7. Daisuke Nishikawa, JPN, ?
8. Guo Linyao, CHN, ?
9. Li Chunyang, CHN, ?
...
12. Scott Keswick, USA, 57.775 (best US finish)

Xiashuang may be in 7th (the story is unclear), in which case all of
the following will be bumped down one.  I do not know who the "missing
person" is in 6th, if this is the case.

-- Floor Exercise
1. Vitaly Scherbo, EUN, 9.900

-- Pommel Horse
1. Vitaly Scherbo, EUN, 9.775

-- Rings
1. Vitaly Scherbo, EUN, 9.900
1. Andreas Wecker, EUN, 9.900
1. Li Xiaoshuang, CHN, 9.900

-- Vault
1. Vitaly Scherbo, EUN, 9.825
?, Scott Keswick, USA, 9.525
?, Chris Waller, USA, 9.025 (underrotated)
?, Jair Lynch, USA, 8.975 (overrotated)

-- Parallel Bars
1. Vitaly Scherbo, EUN, 9.900

-- High Bar
1. Valery Belenky, EUN, 9.825
1. Li Jing, CHN, 9.825
?, Vitaly Scherbo, EUN, 9.700

Quotes about the vault:
"The mats here are hard and very slick," Waller said.  "You have to
land more upright.  I landed in a more American position, and it cost
me."
"You didn't see many 'sticks' here," Lynch said.  "We're not used to
the European equipment -- we're not set up that way at home."
From: fajack@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Diving commentary & TripleCast
Date: 30 Jul 92 12:49:52 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Jul30.152440.1524@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Hebe.B.Quinton@dartmouth.edu (Hebe B. Quinton) writes:

> All the complaints about cost, scheduling etc, makes you guys sound
> like spoiled babies :-)  - $125 over two weeks ain't bad - think how
> much you spend on movies, eating out, CD's, etc.

	you can pick what movie or CD you like.  However, you could not
say the same for the PPV.  I am willing to pay $125 for all the soccer
games, but .......


Jack Teh



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From: appleyar@bnr.ca (Doug Appleyard)
Subject: Men's Basketball - Munich '72
Reply-To: appleyar@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR, Research Triangle Park, NC, USA
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:21:25 GMT

Does anybody remember the complete story of the end of
the men's basketball championship game between the U.S. 
and USSR in the 1972 summer games?  I seem to remember:

1.  U.S. wins after sinking two free throws with 11 seconds to go.
2.  Some guy with no authority comes out of stands and says 
    game clock was incorrect.
3.  Time is put back on clock; Soviets get one last chance but miss.
4.  Guy with no authority claims not enough time was put back on clock.
5.  Time is put back on clock again; this time the Sovs 
    make a last second layup and win the gold medal.

On NPR last night they had a story about this game and said time
was put back on the clock only once.  Which is right?

Incidentally, the U.S. team did not accept the silver medal and
still have not accepted it.  The gist of the story last night 
is that some of the players (Tommy Burleson was interviewed) are
ready to forgive the officials and accept the medal, but most
of the players do not feel they deserve the silver so they don't 
want it.  

It sounded like this episode infuriated a lot of people!   
However the other events occuring in Munich at the time kind of makes
the outcome of some basketball game seem pretty insignificant.

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From: rachele@cs.rice.edu (Rachele Harless)
Subject: Re: GYMNASTICS: Tatiana Gutsu to compete in the all-arounds
Summary: Gutsu and Lysenko both Ukrainian
Keywords: gymnastics
Organization: Rice University, Houston
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 05:23:11 GMT
Expires: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 05:00:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.043253.17957@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>In article <1992Jul30.032855.27245@rice.edu> rachele@cs.rice.edu (Rachele Harless) writes:
>>I heard it on NBC tonight... the Unified Team has stated that one of
>>their athletes is injured and will not be able to compete in
>>Thursday night's all-around.  NBC did not specify which Unified
>>athlete was injured.  Thus, Tatiana Gutsu, the 4th Soviet gymnast,
>>will qualify for the al-arounds.
>>
>>Anyone who read the "re: Tatiana Gutsu (was re: GYMNASTICS: results)"
>>thread read my explanation that the former Soviets had a history of
>>claiming that a certain gymnast was injured, thus allowing a lower
>>scoring (but more capable) Soviet gymnast to compete in the
>>all-arounds.  (Only three gymnasts/nation may advance.)  I stated that
>>while it would not surprise me if the Unified Team pulled that trick
>>again, I did not expect it.  I guess I should have expected it.
>>
>>If it was Boguinkskaya that was injured, NBC would have said so.  So
>>it must be either Galieva or Lysenko.  Lysenko is generally regarded
>>as the stronger gymnast.  So if Lysenko is "injured", I will maybe
>>believe that she really is injured.  If Galieva is "injured", while I
>>wouldn't be able to prove it in any way, I must admit I will be of the
>>opinion that the EUN is resorting to it's old ways...
>>
>
>Remember...there could be political reasons for doing this also...
>isn't Gutsu Ukrainian, and Boguinskaya Belarussian, and maybe the
>others are Russian...this way each Republic might have one
>gymnast.
>
>Gerald

You are right, I didn't think of that.  You're right, Bog. is from
Belarus, and Gutsu is from the Ukraine.  However, after checking
clari.sports.olympic, I am sad to say that Lysenko is also from the
Ukraine.  Galieva (the gymnast who I believe is "injured") is from
Uzbekistan.

For the record, Chusovitina is from Uzbekistan and Grudneva is from
Russia.  Their six member team differs by only one member from the
team that was at Worlds in 1991--> Grudneva was the alternate, and the
sixth member was Natalia Kalinia, who is from the Ukraine.  Perhaps
politics was involved in the team selection (although Kalinina was on
the downslide anyways...).

Now, I even remember reading in an issue of my _International Gymnast_
magazine that Lysenko and Gutsu (and Kalinina) all come from the same
gym in the Ukraine.

Rachele
From: ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Countries of the 1st Olympics
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:50:11 GMT
Organization: UC Davis Dept of Applied Science at LLNL


In article <1992Jul27.174623.12642@cs.hut.fi> killer@robocop.cs.hut.fi (Kalle Kivimaa) writes:
>With Denmark winning 7 medals in Paris 1900 and 5 in Athens 1906, it seems
>strange that they didn't win a medal at St.Louis 1904.  More likely, they
>didn't participate.

The 1904 games in St. Louis was both poorly organized and too far (at
the time) for many countries to send teams.  The result was that there
were quite a few events in which the only competitors were from the
US!

Ed
ed@wente.llnl.gov
From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: GYMNASTICS: What A Shock, NOT (Tatiana Gutsu) 
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 06:06:36 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Keywords: gymnastics

In article <1992Jul29.204457.26125@u.washington.edu> ileana@hardy.u.washington.edu (Ileana Blade) writes:
>thanks for the info. 
>did you mean to imply that that was sort of justified since both times
>those forced substitutions ended up in victories?
>and didn't the US do something similar with Kim Zmeskal by altering
>the order in the aparatus so she'd be more likely to receive higher
>scores from the judges, and favouring her over Kerry ?
>ileana

Hrmm, Announced tonight that, due to an injury to a EUN Gymnast (I'm not
sure which one), Tatiana will compete in the all around finals....

Having a 'mystery injury' show up is a >bit< different than altering the
order of apparatus. Personally, I feel that the 'injured' EUN gymnast should
be subject to an >independent< medical exam, but that's just my opinion :)

r.

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From: ca-mc580@andy.bgsu.edu ([Alvaro C. Calabia})
Subject: Re: SILTS <-- Sports I'd Like To See!
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:49:33 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.042842.4932@ucc.su.OZ.AU>, smcneil@metro (Shannon McNeil) writes:
> >>I nominate...
> >>
> >>  Synchronised drowning
> >>  100m crab walk
> >>  Egg-and-Spoon marathon  (gruelling 42km event...  Don't drop the egg)
> >>  Chess  (yawn)
> >>  Pancake flipping  (famous chefs about to make the perfect souffle)
> > 
> > Gardening
> > Canine Frisbee (well, I think it's entertaining)
> > Computer Programming (separate divisions for COBOL, C, etc.)
> > Nintendo Decathelon
> > House Painting
> > 10K Hobby-Horse race
> > Movie Reviewing
> > Remote-Control TV Channel Flipping
> > Weather Forecasting
> 
> 
> Olympic Hide and Seek! (previously suggested by Monty Python)
> 

Be realistic, people.  Don't you watch ESPN?

- Bowling (women, men, teams...)
- Tractor Pulling (Development countries can bring oxes)
- Aerobics (women, men, mix, waterobics...)
- Bullfighting (in all its varieties, including Rejoneo [on horse]
  and Encierros [running the bulls])
- Rodeo


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From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
Subject: Re: The Clean Games ???
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:49:05 GMT

In article <2820@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU>, sue@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Sue McPherson) writes:
|> There has been a lot of talk about how these will be the "Clean Games", ie.
|> that with improved drug detection the use of performance enhancing drugs
|> will be reduced.
|> 
|> Concern has arisen in Australia about the drug testing procedures. Apparently
|> after one of the men's swimming finals (100m breaststroke I think) the Gold and
|> Silver medal winners wandered off to press conferences while the Australian
|> who won the Bronze medal was called up for drug tests.
|> 
|> So, aren't ALL medal winners supposed to get tested?
|> 
|> Was the 100m breaststroke a solitary mistake or has the drug testing system
|> broken down already?

Actually it died. One of the three medalists gets chosen, and one of the
remaining seven finalists gets chosen. I think it was Anita Nall who got
really upset about this (already broken up about getting a bronze, she had
to take a drug test while the gold medalist walked). The Australlians were
also upset, but took out their argessions more formally (instead of whinning).

Jason W. Solinsky
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From: Robert.Holton@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Robert Holton)
Subject: Re: US Olympic rowing team...[Roster]
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 03:10:27 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.213510.19718@nynexst.com> mreed@nynexst.com (Michael Reed) writes:
>
>
>J. Pescatore	2-
>P. Sharis	2-

Watch out for Redgrave & Pinsent in this event, just see em row through
the pack in the last 500m. Eat their wake guys :-)



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From: wouter@cwi.nl (Wouter Mettrop)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: VOLLEYBALL: Results Men, Pool B
Date: 27 Jul 92 07:22:26 GMT
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam

MEN POOL B

Matches 26-07:

Cuba         - Holland      : 3-1  (15-12; 17-15; 6-15; 15-10)
Algeria      - Unified Team : 0-3  (8-15; 7-15; 4-15)
South Korea  - Brazil       : 0-3  (13-15; 14-16; 7-15)

 



Brazil          1  2   3-0
Unified Team    1  2   3-0
Cuba            1  2   3-1
Holland         1  1   1-3
Algeria         1  1   0-3
South Korea     1  1   0-3

Remaining matches:
      
      
30-07 Algeria      - South Korea.
      Brazil       - Holland.
      Unified Team - Cuba.
01-08 South Korea  - Unified
      Algeria      - Holland.
      Brazil       - Cuba.
03-08 Unified Team - Holland.
      Cuba         - South Korea.
      Algeria      - Brazil.
      
Xref: sparky rec.sport.olympics:1364 soc.culture.british:10831
From: zzassgl@uts.mcc.ac.uk (Geoff Lane)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics,soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Why only ONE british olympic team
Date: 28 Jul 92 11:16:50 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre, Manchester, England, M13 9PL.

In article <CC.92Jul27164826@arran.dcs.ed.ac.uk> cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke) writes:
>In the Commonwealth Games, there is no "Great Britain" team at all - England,
>Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland play separately.  David Coleman usually
>supports England all the way, of course :-)
>	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)



"Errrrrrrrrrrrrr, even when the athlete in question is actually Scots, Welsh
or Irish."

There is of course the commentators special word for English athletes, as in
"The ``Engli-British'' team failed to win again.", which is used quite
often. 



-- 
Geoff. Lane.                                  Janet: zzassgl@uk.ac.mcc.uts
UTS Sys Admin, Manchester Computing Centre, Oxford Rd, Manchester, M13 9PL
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