Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 01:30:36 -0500 
From: Michael Loomis <ml3e+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Reverse FAQ....

Excerpts from netnews.alt.atheism: 9-Jan-93 Re: Reverse FAQ.... by
Andrew Tong@cco.caltech. 
> So you're saying that if Christians stopped posting to alt.atheism, then
> the atheist participants in the group would stop looking down upon (the
> majority of) christians?  

Many people on this bboard are anti-christianity, and not
anti-christians.  It is exactly the same concept as "love the sinner,
but not the sin".

> That the people in alt.atheism ridicule 
> Christians only because they are here?  That atheists have a common
respect > for the ideals and beliefs of Christians?  

Of course, many atheist on this bboard find the ideals and beliefs of
christianity repugnant.  It is their right to do so.

> I'm sorry, but the major
> impression that I get from this group is that atheists believe that
> Christians are the brainless scourges of the world, the cause of a
majority > of the world's (or at least America's) problems. 

    Christianity is a major cause of global overpopulation.  Catholics,
Muslims, and Feminists (three powerful and evil religions) colluded to
prevent global overpopulation from even being discussed at the
environmental conference in Rio.  The perverted christian obsession with
controlling other people's sexuality is the cause of the senseless
opposition to birth control and abortion and hence christianity can be
considered a cause of global overpopulation.  These same christian
sexual taboos have done tremendous evil to gay people.
    Beyond the damage done to the environment, gay people, and straight
people by the perverse christian sexuality, christianity and other
religions are evil because of how they distort the political process. 
Demagogic politicians appeal to christianity, islam, hinduism, and other
religions in their efforts implement policies of hate.  In the United
States, many problems that probably should be politically addressed are
ignored because the media pays attention to the bizarre christian
facsism of the Jesse Helms Republicans.

Excerpts from netnews.alt.atheism: 9-Jan-93 Re: Reverse FAQ.... by
Andrew Tong@cco.caltech. 
>inconsistencies in atheist thinking.  I'm hoping that you guys don't
>discriminate against the logic of a person by the person's religious beliefs.
>Logic is logic, right?

Mr. Tong in the above paragraph ask to accept him as logical human
being, but in the paragraph, he show that is, in fact, not logical.

>Is this still the case?  With prayer banned in schools and even the phrase
>"merry Christmas" banned on public buildings (in Maryland, for one...  They
>require "season's greetings" or something like that) it seems as if
>atheism is officially sanctioned by our society.  Or at least 
> anti-Christianity

Let me list the illogical statements in the previous paragraph.

1.  Prayer is not banned in schools.  (The state is not allowed to
direct prayers in public schools.)

2.  "Merry Christmas" on official documents would violate the first
amendment, unless we can all agree that christmas is not a christian
holiday. (I would think that the mythical rational christian would like
to give up this winter soltice celebration of capitalism.)

3.  Mr. Tong claims that atheism seems officially santioned by our
society.  (This could represent simple paranoia rather than a lack of
logic.  Mr. Tong:  Satan, the General Motors Corporation, and I plan to
take demonic posession of your mother.)

Mr. Tong makes 3 illogical assertion in 4 and 1/2 lines of typing.  This
suggests to me that Mr. Tong is not the sort of person whose arguments I
would take very seriously.

My bet is that Mr. Tong's Anti-FAQ will be anti-factual.

Michael Loomis
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