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From: billc@col.hp.com (Bill Claussen)
Subject: Re: Velodyne VA-810
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:28:46 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

I just receintly purchased a Velodyne ULD-15 and am very
pleased with it.  It's one driver (15"), no passive
radiator, and it has a 400 watt amp (rms) that is seperate
from the woofer cabinet.

It's a real hummer.

By the way....I live in an apartment too....I don't play
it loud very often...but now and then I do.

I do know that it sounds good at low levels too.


Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: zvona@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (David Chapman)
Subject: Re: need advice for buying a cd player (Rotel vs NAD)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
	<bigstar.712281121@milton>
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:20:10

   I would strongly suggest listening to both the Rotel 955 and the 965.
   The 955 is ~ $450 while the 965 is ~ $550. I have sent several people
   to listen to these and all were equally amazed. Not to sound snobbish, but
   the Denon's HK's and Adcom's really don't sound as musical as the Rotel's.
   I have a friend with NAD stuff and we've done some double blind listening.
   Rotel won on all counts.  Granted this is merely one data point ...

I compared an NAD 5000 vs Rotel 955 under moderately controlled
(though not blind) conditions.  I was expecting to find little
difference, but hoping that the Rotel would be better, since I'd
already listened to the NAD and had heard great things about the
Rotel.  Thus I certainly didn't have a bias in favor of the NAD.
Anyway, I found the NAD much superior, mainly in dynamic oomph.  I
also compared the NAD with the Adcom and in that case found little
difference, though the NAD had a bit of an edge.

One more data point.  Prescription: listen to several of them.

(In a whole different price category, out of curiosity I also compared
the CAL Icon (the old version, not the II), and it was clearly
bettter, but not obviously enough so as to justify the greater price.)
--
David Chapman
Teleos Research
576 Middlefield Road
Palo Alto, CA 94301
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: oconnor@upsilon.enet.dec.com (Mike O'Connor)
Subject: Radio Frequency interference revisited
Reply-To: oconnor@kpc.com
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:47:19 GMT


Thanks for all the replies and suggestions.  A while ago I posted
a note about my reception of radio freqency interference through
the rear and center speakers of my new surround sound stereo (Sony
STR-GX67ES).  Here is what I have found out.

From what I can tell, the most recommended and most thorough solution
(besides eliminating the interfering person) is to purchase 2 .01 mf
600volt disc ceramic capacitors and a 5/16" diameter 4 1/2" length 
ferrite rod.  Wrap the speaker wire (which should be RG-58/U or RG-59/U)
around the ferrite rod about 20 times and rubber cement the wire to the
ferrite rod so it doesn't unwravel.  Before and after the ferrite rod,
solder a capacitor across the positive and negative lead.  Don't leave 
more than an inch or two of speaker wire after the capacitor before
connecting to your receiver.  This is assuming your speaker wire is picking
up the signal, if it's your amp, then there is little you can do without
going in and doing some modification.

I called the FCC to complaing and received a letter in the mail.  An
excerpt follows (I don't have the original in front of me but this is close):

"We encourage the you to contact the manufacturer... Due to recent budget 
cutbacks, the FCC no longer pursues individual cases of radio interference 
to home appliances.  The FCC is relegated to a provider of self-help 
information... The FCC is working with manufacturers on legislation that 
will increase the standards for home stereo equipment. We believe your tax
dollars are better spent this way."

Needless to say this really pissed me off.

So, I've been deeling with Sony to try and get them to fix the problem.
After about a week of dealing with the customer service center (800-222-SONY),
they suggested I take it to the Sony Customer Service Center in San Jose.
When I got there, they said they would put in an "environmental kit" which
should solve the problem.  Yesterday I went to pick it up and the repairman's
note said, "part not available."  The mechanical drawing that shows how to put
the damn thing together had an extra shield for the amplifier and next to it was
not a part number but the words, "not available."  Sony's explanation is that
the part is either no longer manufactured or will be manufactured in the
future and therefore has no part number yet.  Sony doesn't seem very confident
that they will be able to fix the problem.

I just love this.  The FCC says to go bug the manufacturer.  The manufacturer 
says that it's not his problem and that they (direct quote) "can't reproduce 
this problem in the lab and therefore have no recommendation for a solution."
Meanwhile, I get this CB mega-jerk anytime I listen to anything in surround
mode.

--
Michael D. O'Connor  Kubota Pacific Computer  oconnor@kpc.com
From: t8800568@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Best news about LPs...
Date: 26 Jul 92 19:51:51 GMT
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)

In article <1992Jul26.013138.29209@u.washington.edu>, ngrjn@milton.u.washington.edu (V Nagarajan) writes:
> 
> 	  ...is that they are on their way out.
> 
> 	That's my impish side talking. Seriously, what is the future for
> 	LPs? A local music store had two dozen cutouts and no more! I am
> 	curious as to why people are investing hundreds, if not thousands,
> 	of dollars on a technology that is being phased out rather rapidly.

Cause it sounds much better I guess.

What is the future of LPs?  They don't have one.

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From: myers@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Myers)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:54:35 GMT
Subject: Re: Digital Coax, 1.5m, b/w cd & dat, <=$200: suggestions?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.audio

> I asked before, and ask again: does anyone have a rational explanation
> for why a $100/meter cable should do better than any reasonably well-
> built cable in the <$30 range?  

Other than a theory that you can't hear so well with a heavy wallet, no.



Bob Myers            | "Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but  
myers@fc.hp.com      |  most of the time he will pick himself up and continue."
                     |                        - Winston Churchill
From: wgd@ukc.ac.uk (W.G.Day)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: 20 or 24 bit digital recording?
Date: 22 Jul 92 09:32:38 GMT
Reply-To: wgd@ukc.ac.uk (Warren Day)
Organization: Computing Lab, The University, Canterbury, Kent. CT2 7NF, UK

>Would increasing the resolution of CD increase its transparency?

As it is unlikely that complete sonic transparency is just related to
resolution, I suspect the answer to your questio is no.  Increasing
resolution will give more detail though.

Current vinyl is apparently about twice the resolution of CD (assuming
you've got a clean record, but we've talked about that).  If you did
increase the CD's resolution you need to invent a new completely format
basically.  Even though you are only changing the 16 bits to 24 bits you
need to increase the size of your CD or have only a 55 minute limit.  Also
you need to completely change your error correction software.  Increasing
your resolution just gives you more detail.  However every so often people
come up with new plastics which can form more complex shapes and these can
be used to press records without changing your turntable.


>This might sound like a dumb question, but since the so-called 1 bit
>players get the data off a disk as a constant stream of data, would
>they be able to benifit immediately from this change in recording?,
>or would it be necessary to change the player to full 20 or 24 bit 

The 1 bit players get the data off in the 32 byte packets just like
multi-bit players do.  Data off a CD is data off a CD.  The 1-bit
players however use the 1 bit (delta sigma) system to reconstruct
the sound without having large errors in the resistors that multi-bits
can have.

16384 ohms +/- 5% is about 800 ohms error.  In a multi-bit player there
are also resistors of 1 ohm, 2 ohm, ... , 256 ohm , 512 ohm , 1024 ohm.
So the errors really corrupt the sound produced.

>thanks.

>#   T8800568@phillip.edu.au       #  in the sweetest bud.               # 

Warren
From: tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini)
Subject: Need Abuse
Keywords: JVC XL-Z1050TN
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:04:17 GMT

I just went out and bought (on the advice of a friend)  a JVC
XL-1050TN CD player for $625 which I love dearly. However, considering
the way my life has been going lately I just know that I could have
gotten something twice as good at half the price. Your mission; tell
me what I should have gotten. I am feeling too good about this
purchase and am in need of some straightening out. 

Come on! You can do it.

Tony Travaglini
tech@cs.ucf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: wood@uk.tele.nokia.fi (Peter Wood)
Subject: Re: Best news about LPs...
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications, Transmission Product Development,
	Cambridge, UK
	<1992Jul26.145151.12500@phillip.edu.au>
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:44:36 GMT

>>>>> On 26 Jul 92 19:51:51 GMT, t8800568@phillip.edu.au said:

toc> In article <1992Jul26.013138.29209@u.washington.edu>, ngrjn@milton.u.washington.edu (V Nagarajan) writes:
> 
> 	  ...is that they are on their way out.
> 
> 	That's my impish side talking. Seriously, what is the future for
> 	LPs? A local music store had two dozen cutouts and no more! I am
> 	curious as to why people are investing hundreds, if not thousands,
> 	of dollars on a technology that is being phased out rather rapidly.

toc> Cause it sounds much better I guess.

It certainly does.  Lots of us who are spending those thousands of dollars
(or pounds, in my case) aren't doing so out of any misplaced attack of
rose-tinted spectacles, trying to sustain a dying format for nostalgic
reasons.  I certainly don't have thousands of dollars to throw away on some
mistaken whim, I have to think *hard* before I spend my bucks...

The reason we're spending those thousands of dollars is because we get feel
that we enjoy listening to music more when it's been recorded and replayed
through analogue media.  We feel that digital sound makes music less
'accessible' to us - that we enjoy it less, and therefore find we play it
less, and are less likely to explore new avenues of musical taste.

It is our belief that if you listen with an open mind to the best that the
multiplicities of media have to offer, you're quite likely to end up
preferring the all-analog solution.  However, I'll be the first to admit that
to some extent it all depends upon what you want out of your sound.

Now I've been careful to use words like 'feel' in the paragraphs above, to
make it clear that I am stating a personal preference.  I don't wish to
restart the same old flame war again.  (A new one would be fun though :))

Pete
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From: pauls@trsvax.tandy.com
Date: 20 Jul 92 12:52 CDT
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: FOR SALE: Allison 2 speakers
Message-ID: <287500044@trsvax>
Nf-ID: #N:trsvax:287500044:000:242
Nf-From: trsvax.tandy.com!pauls    Jul 20 12:52:00 1992


FOR SALE

Allison Research 2 speakers $300

- smaller versions of the classic Allison 1's
- uses 2 sets of speaker drivers in each cabinet, angles to the sides
- famous for the 'wall-of-sound' dispersion

these are not mine, but a friend's.


From: pauls@trsvax.tandy.com
Date: 28 Jul 92 10:39 CDT
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Modifying a Sony CDP990
Message-ID: <287500046@trsvax>
Nf-ID: #R:milton:712046502:trsvax:287500046:000:107
Nf-From: trsvax.tandy.com!pauls    Jul 28 10:39:00 1992


1) The AD1860 is your DAC.
2) The 5532 is a standard dual op-amp, for which their are a number of
choices.

Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: jsimon@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Gerald Simon)
Subject: In Search Of......	
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:40:47 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester


   We're in the process of building a house and I'm installing 2 sets
of in wall speakers.  In the formal dinning room, I'm putting in a pair
of Polk Audio and in the master bath, a pair of Paradigm AMS 200's...this
is where the problem is.  I bought the frames at the local dealer but
apparently he's having a problem getting the speakers.  Does anybody
know of a mail order place where I can purchase a pair of the AMS 200's?
I've tried a few of the mail order places in the back of Stereo Review with
no luck.  One guy even said that Paradigm doesn't sell their stuff via mail
order any more.

Any help would be appreciated....I'd have to have to toss out a pair of $50
frames 'cause I can't get the speakers for them (not to mention fill in the
sheetrock!)

Thanks	
Jerry
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: HELP connecting DAT recorders
From: ejones@desire.wright.edu
Date: 26 Jul 92 12:20:15 EST
Organization: Wright State University 

We have recently purchased a Sony portable DAT recorder/player. We use this 
machine to record various head related transform functions via microphones
placed in a KEMAR dummy. We would like to share our tapes with some 
colleaques at the local military base where we share our research. They also
have several of the Sony portable DAT machines just like ours. I called Sony
to see if they made a cable that would allow us to connect the two machines
via the 7 pin connector on the side of the unit. They said that they do not
make these cables for obvious reasons. I won't get into how annoying the
copy protection schemes are since I am sure that has been hashed here before.
But, since the serial management facility built into these machines do
allow one copy to be made, is it possible to fabricate our own patch cable?
I am unable to find those weird connectors they employ for there cables or 
pinouts for that matter. We even considered the idea of buying another of
the cables that come with the unit. The one that converts the 7 pin 
electrical output to fiber optical output/input. Then, cutting off the fiber
conncetors on the ends and splicing the two fibers together. Has anyone out
there thought of a good solution to this problem? I am totally wrong in 
thinking that this is possible? Thanks in advance for the help.


	Ed Jones
        Signal Detection Lab
        Wright State University
	ejones@desire.wright.edu

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From: ri09+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert W. Igo)
Newsgroups: rec.audio,alt.folklore.computers,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Two-sided CD's *DO* exist! (was Re: Life after CDs)
Date: 29 Jul 92 07:41:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.keRfkAS00WCTE0n2N6
	<1992Jul29.124010.15746@galadriel.bt.co.uk>
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.rec.audio: 29-Jul-92 Re: Two-sided CD's *DO* exi..
Steve Paine@galadriel.bt (412)


> As did Penthouse and Pavement by Heaven 17. The last track ended:
> 	'for a very long time, for a very long time, for a ... etc'

> 			Steve.


Is this intentional skipping possible to do with CD's?

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From: chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Compressed audio better than noncompressed?
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:39:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: gold.4934
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <1992Jul27.215314.28049@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz> stuartw@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Stuart Woolford) writes:
>jj@alice.att.com (jj, curmudgeon for trvth in audio) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul27.003939.1881@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz> stuartw@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Stuart Woolford) writes:
>>>monta@image.mit.edu (Peter Monta) writes:
>>>>In article <22742@oasys.dt.navy.mil> curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil 
(Curt Welch) writes:
>>>>> My guess is that you can probably do something like 8:1 loss free
>>>>> compression on CD's but designing and building the hardware to do this
>>>>> in real time is currently too expensive.
>>>>> So, I'm just wondering when people will start claiming that
>>>>> compressed audio sounds better than non-compressed becauses
>>>>> it has been purified?

This thread runs deep!

Personally I *like* 3-6dB of compression at a 2:1 ratio on almost
anything and it only cost me $460 for my dbx 166..........:-)

I now return you to your regularly sceduled thred.

(Oh and BTW, and just in case you wanted to know, jj *does* speak from
a solid technical perspective, seasoned with a dose of reality I
expect :-)
-- 
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chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com            and sometimes they are wrong!
916-478-3419 FAX 916-478-3887      After all, I *AM* only human.
From: shanghai@athena.mit.edu (Edward S Chen)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: speakers for surround sound...
Date: 25 Jul 92 21:36:02 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Hi, there,

I have a SONY reciever (model 1010).  It has surround sound capability.
I used a pair of Bose 2.2 for its main speaker channels and a pair of
Technics minispeaker (20-20kHz freq rang) for its surround sound channels.
It does work, however, whenever I tweak the reciever volume control I 
hear noise from the surround sound speakers.

Could anyone of you explain this, and maybe advise on what to do?

thanks.

Edward Chen
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: jwithana@beam.Princeton.EDU (Janaka Withana)
Subject: Re: Bose 601's?
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Space Cadet Corps., Princeton University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:48:46 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.205350.2001@merrimack.edu> desmondw@merrimack.edu writes:
>
>     I seen these speakers at a local Fretters and they were big bucks.
>I'm looking for a new pair of speakers for my receiver(Technics SAGX710)
>and want an awesome pair of speakers that will rock the house and sound
>good when watching movies. Any comments on the Bose 601's?


here we go again, on another round of Bose bashing :-)

how can anyone even think of Bose when there are brands like Boston Acoustics
in the same price range?

--j
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From: tswingle@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Tom Swingle)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Mail order experience with J & R Music World?
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:10:36 GMT
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept,. Athens

In article <1992Jul22.215132.883@portal.vpharm.com> dap@portal.vpharm.com (David A. Pearlman) writes:
>They are reputable, reliable, and honest (based on all the interactions
>I and people I know have had with them).
>
>They are also one of the more expensive "discount" mail order places.
>
>If you are satisfied with their prices, I wouldn't hesitate to order
>from them.

Does anyone have suggestions on places with cheaper prices out there?

Perhaps a phone number or address that could be used to request a catalog from
them?

Note that J&R offers to meet the price of any Factory Authorized Dealer, so if
the other places offering lower prices are Factory Authorized Dealers but you
still like J&R for other reasons, you can get the best of both worlds.
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From: Eric T. Jue <etjue@lbl.gov>
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: A good mail order experience
Date: 27 Jul 1992 17:19:47 GMT
Organization: LBL
Distribution: world
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I have had very good experiences with Camera World of Oregon.  They have
the best prices and are authorized US dealers.  I bought a Sony MDP-333
there for only $389 including shipping and handling and full US warranty.
 I highly recommend calling them first for the best prices.
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: daniel@netcom.com (Sam Daniel)
Subject: Re: blu-tak
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 04:19:17 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

ahaley@eoe.co.uk (Andrew Haley) writes:

>Because of its anti-vibration properties, it's also excellent for
>holding LP records (remember them?) to the platter.

The first use I ever heard of for Blu-Tak was to dampen the cartridge
in a tone arm by putting a thin layer in the head shell before
mounting the cartridge.
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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: ziny@nynexst.com (Ziny Flikop)
Subject: Sony info
Organization: NYNEX Science & Technology, Inc.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 18:05:56 GMT

I want to buy
 Sony STR AV 770 receiver,
 Sony CD..491 disk and 
speakers:  Pioneer CS G303 or B&W 201 or Bose 201 series 3.


I will appreciate any coments
From: j_adams@hpfcbig.SDE.HP.COM (John Adams)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:40:26 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Class A/B/whatever... What does it mean?
Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO