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From: rhballan@eos.ncsu.edu (ROBERT HAMI BALLANTINE)
Subject: Re: Capt. Pike
Originator: rhballan@c00505-119rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: rhballan@eos.ncsu.edu (ROBERT HAMI BALLANTINE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:29:15 GMT


In article <LWYSE.92Sep13193733@copley.bu.edu>, lwyse@copley.bu.edu (Lonce
 LaMar Wyse) writes:

 
|> Oh knowledgeable Trekies -
|> 
|> I am only a social viewer of Startrek, so I was confused when I saw a
|> program today with Capt. Pike as the commander of the starship. Is
|> this an old program before Kirk came along? How did Kirk inherit the
|> ship from Pike?
|> 
|> Pike wasn't a bad captain, the show had all the familliar creative
|> writing and humor of the shows with Kirk...
|> 
|> 
|> 					- lonce
|> 

If memory serves me, Captain Pike was in the original pilot
for TOS. That was the only episode he was in.
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From: daz@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Dazza Primm)
Subject: Re: ST: TNG : Vendetta... re-run or new episode?
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:05:46 GMT

semele@clintsalt (Semele Halkedis) writes:

>Vendetta is a book.  The name of the author escapes me at the moment.
Author was Peter David, who also qrote Q-In-Law and Imazdi

Daz.

--
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From: schaefer@kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de (Achim Schaefer)
Subject: STTNG:"DER UEBERLAEUFER" ON VIDEO
Organization: University of Passau, Germany
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 11:37:54 GMT


Hi,

I'm searching for STTNG"DER UEBERLAEUFER"(GERMAN VERSION) on video.

Please contact me if you have it(or you know where I can get it),by email.

If there is any group to post it too please tell it to me.

Thanks 

      -Achim


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From: dsturm@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,sci.lang,alt.startrek.creative
Subject: [KLI] Journal of the Klingon Language Institute
Date: 10 Sep 92 04:12:47 GMT


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From: jma@reef.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: new Hallmark Ornament
Date: 14 Sep 92 02:07:53 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

Did arang@desire.wright.edu really type:
> Has anyone else gotten the new Star Trek ornament from Hallmark?  I got mine
> and I think It's kind of neat.  I haven't been able to plug it into a light set
> yet.  Once I do, the Enterprise and Galileo will be up and running together.

Yep, I've two of the 1701, and two of the Galileo.  They are sitting in
my closet next to the my ST card tin, number 10536.  :)

> ......By the way, it talks too.

Yep, although I wish they had put the date in the recording.
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From: jlindqui@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (A Conrad Bain Wanna-Be)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: TNG guest star in _Unforgiven_
Date: 14 Sep 92 00:14:39 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Wedge@cup.portal.com (Craig Teruo Matsumoto) writes:


>Sorry if this was discussed already, but:

>In Clint Eastwood's _Unforgiven_, the guy who plays the writer...
>isn't that the same actor who was the collector, who faked Data's death
>so he could steal him for his collection?

>Anybody know the name of the actor (and the TNG character he played)?

The character's name was something like Kievas Phago (that's a soft g in
Phago).  I can't remember the actor's name, but he appeared in the episode
"The Most Toys".  He played a weenie in that episode, too.
-- 
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From: semele@clintsalt (Semele Halkedis)
Subject: Re: ST:TNG : Vendetta... re-run or new episode?
Reply-To: semele@clintsalt (Semele Halkedis)
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 13:46:46 GMT

>I read in the original newsgroup (just the other day) a reference to an
>episode of ST:TNG called Vendetta.  It was supposed to have something to
>do with a female Borg that is captured or encountered with a portion of
>her implants damaged.  This Borg was supposed to have expressed remorse
>and/or grief for the wanton destruction of countless millions by her
>race.  This episode does not ring a bell.  I *think* I've seen all of
>the episodes, but every once in awhile I stumble across one that I've
>missed.
> 
>Is Vendetta a re-run, or is this a new episode scheduled for the upcoming
>season?  
...{remainder of text deleted}...

>Randy O'Neal  RONEAL@lexmark.com     Printer Attach Software Development

Vendetta is a book.  The name of the author escapes me at the moment.

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From: steven.k.manfred@UWRF.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: What are we going to do with Alexander?
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:30:49 GMT



Almost everyone on the net seems to acknowledge that there are some
problems with the character of Alexander.   A significant portion of
you would like to see him loaded and fired from the aft photon torpedo
launcher.

However, from things we have heard from Paramount, Alexander IS to stay
on the show for Season 6 at least.

Recalling what Picard said of Barclay in "Hollow Pursuits," i.e. how it's
so much easier to just send the problem away rather than trying to solve
it, I thus propose the following challenge:

Let's see some ideas on how to make Alexander interesting, fun to watch,
and one of our favorite characters rather than one of our least favorite.
	AND I DON'T MEAN KILLING HIM, PERMANANTLY GAGGING HIM, 
	LOSING HIM SOMEWHERE, MAIMING HIM FOR LIFE, ETC.
He has to stay healthy and on the ship and seen, say, at least every
third episode.

Let me start the ball rolling with an idea Michael Dorn has to help
Alexander's character, not to mention Worf's:
	Introduce another semi-regular character (we'll have a gap in
that department when O'Brien and Keiko leave to DS9), female, to act as
a new love interest for Worf.  They will get along *VERY* well, and
the thing with Alexander is him having to deal with his "stepmom" and
Worf's seeming replacement of K'Ehylar with this new woman.

Right.  That's my serve.  Anyone care to return?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: ckeroack@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: ST:TNG & homosexuality
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 23:12:58 GMT

		A friend of mine pointed out a little subtext in the episode
("The Outcast") about homosexuality and now I realize they botched the message
they were trying to send more than ever. Notice how it's the "other" society,
the one which is hinted to be bisexual/asexual, which is bad and subversive and
tries to homogenize (no pun intended ;) ) its members, while it's the
heterosexual from the (as portrayed in the series; I personally disagree) 
predominately heterosexual society who is just and fair and accepting. Hmm.
		Add in all the wooden, rehashed dialogue of very common
arguements for both sides of the issue and this comes up as a missed
opportunity. Not a bad episode; the acting was fair overall. But IMN-S-HO the
best way to portray alternate lifestyles on TNG would be to have the character
have a relationship with another character. Nothing different from any other
love interest that they intro on the show except that preferences are slightly
different. But I digress. =)
   

						-Chris 
				                 ckeroack@hamp.hampshire.edu

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From: tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Robert Oliver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Jack Crusher
Keywords: monKEY, turKEY, donKEY, KEYboard
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 23:09:24 EDT
Organization: Ailanthus Project

t0e0078@tamsun.tamu.edu (Terje Eggestad) writes:

> In article <562JqB4w165w@berry.Cary.NC.US> pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry) w
> >v070p6nd@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Anthos) writes:
> >
> >> 		Is there a ST:TNG episode which explains how Jack Crusher
> >>               died?
> >
> >No.
> 
> Jacks death is one of the sub topics of the book Reunion, read it for full
> details, but the essential was that the Stargazer had a small accident which
> left the ship a rather poor condition, they got a 'energy build up' in the 
> port nacelle which they where unable to stop. They had only a short time 
> (of course) before the nacelle would explode, and Jack was the one who figure
> that the only solution was that some fool went out and cut of the nacelle
> with a hand held heavy duty phaser. Of  course since it was his idea, he was 
> the poor fool, and the nacelle pylon blew up in his face just as he was 
> finnishing cutting it of, but the explosion savages the nacelle, the stargaze
> and the day is saved, and Jack dies. Just another normal ST plot.
> 
> >
> >-- 
> >Pat Berry - Cary, North Carolina, USA   | Dave Barry for President
> >pat@berry.Cary.NC.US                    |  "He Probably Won't Use
> >**** Happy user of OS/2 2.0 ****        |     Nuclear Weapons"
> 
> Terje
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>    |         |  |         |  |         |   Terje Eggestad
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>    |         |  |         |  |         |
>    |   RIP   |  |   RIP   |  |   RIP   |    "A dollar saved is a dollar 
>    |         |  |         |  |         |     wasted"
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%    --- Thomas Edison
> 
> -- 
> 
>     _________    _________    _________
>    /         \  /         \  /         \
>    |         |  |         |  |         |   Terje Eggestad

I thought Jack Crusher was killed on an Away Team.
From: mfd@aber.ac.uk (Fran Disbury)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: RE: Sexism and plunging necklines
Summary: Words, that's all it is
Date: 7 Sep 92 14:22:10 GMT
Followup-To: Kipper, stardate unknown
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

Calling female officers "sir" ?  Why not ?  It's infinitely 
preferable to "Ma'am", which implies a C19 Brit. monarch, can sound like
a noise made by mutant sheep or if given in full (i.e. MADAM, yeuch !)
can be  a really blasting insult (brothelkeeper/pimp, 'right little madam',
snob, etc.)  At least with "sir" the cheek is kept to the tone of 
voice and the less mentally able only have one honorific to remember :-)

Fran

	(.sigless for all practical purposes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jwlr@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Subject: Re: holosex restrictions
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 22:54:18 GMT

mortoncp@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Christopher P Morton) writes:

>Would you want your "first" to be a living person or a holodeck playmate?   
>The holodeck would be less likely to laugh at you (first time you know and  
>you might miss ;), but a real person is so much more creative.

>Personally, I would opt for a holodeck.  I'd be able to do it without  
>running any of the numerous risks of sexual activity and besides, I wasn't  
>very creative with my first.

But if your first experience is with a holodeck, how would you know
if you were doing it right?

					James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
>Anybody else care to comment one way or another?

>--
>---------------------------------------------------------
>--  Long Live the Memory of Gene Roddenberry
>---------------------------------------------------------
>--  Chris Morton   mortoncp@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
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From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: DS9 to be "less cerebral????????"
Date: 14 Sep 92 01:32:56 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <1992Sep13.021410.11815@bing.UUCP> root@bing.UUCP (Administrator) writes:
>One thing about DS9 that scares me is this bit that's going around about
>it being less cerebral.  Geez, I mean, I watch Startrek because it is
>cerebral.  If I wanted to see less cerebral shows, I'd be on my couch
>with a bag of potato chips watching "Cheers" reruns.

Well, I'm not sure they know much about what "cerebral" means.  Or, at least,
it doesn't have much bearing on what *I* consider a cerebral TV show.  I'm
curious to see what they've got in mind... though I'd be more so if someone
other than the TNG guys were doing it...

-- 
Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

You can watch them die, live on TV.
						- The Box, "Live On TV"
From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Peter Gabriel and/or Anne Lennox in Season 6???
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:29:55 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Sep11.142639.3701@syma.sussex.ac.uk> andy@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Andy Clews) writes:

>: >  A friend of mine was watching the EmptyV Music Awards last night
>: >and said he thought he heard someone say something about either Peter
>: >Gabriel or Anne Lennox being a future guest star on an upcoming 
>: >episode of ST:TNG. 

>Would be a nice excuse for Gabriel to dig out the old "Slipperman" costume
>that he used to wear in the Lamb Lies Down On Broadway shows about 17 years
>ago!
>:-)

Or the Zarn costume from the end of the Sledgehammer vid! I-)
(Does anyone else out there long for the return of the Original
 Land of the Lost? (not the 3rd year, tho))

			James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: eisimps@cie.uoregon.edu (Eileen Simpson)
Subject: Re: Navy in Star Trek
Summary: First Enterprise
Organization: University of Oregon Campus Information Exchange
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 05:13:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.210918.4546@cbfsb.cb.att.com> drw@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (david.r.wells) writes:
>In article <92Sep10.154822.26326@acs.ucalgary.ca> jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshua Bell) writes:
>>In article <37877@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> cmhayes@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Purple Hayes   ) writes:
>>>history?  I believe the USS Entrpise (CVN-65) was commissioned about
>>>the same time TOS began her own maind voyage.  The public could preceive it as
>
>CVN-65 was commissioned in 1961 I believe.
>>
>>As a side query, how many Enterprises have there been so far? The
>>19th Century battleship (?), the carrier (what class, by the
>>way?), and the mock-Shuttle... anything else? (I'm not counting
>>the Trek 5)
>
>USS Enterprise CV-6 (1938-1959 RIP) was a Yorktown class carrier.
>(about 19,800 tons empty). CV-6 was arguably the most successful warship
>in history.
>
>USS Enterprise CVN-65 (1961-present) is unique (therefore, Enterprise
>class). She is the world's first nuclear carrier. She is powered by
>8 reactors (modern carriers need only 2). She is still the world's
>longest warship (1101.5 feet)
>
>I know of no 19th century battleship Enterprise (and my information
>is relatively good)
>

The original USS Enterprise was a 12 gun schooner that was active in the 
war against the Barbary pirates.  I believe it rendered support to the
Intrepid during its destruction of the captured frigate Philidelphia.  It
seems to me that both Enterprise and Intrepid were originally captured 
ships that were refitted.  I know Intrepid was.


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From: tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Robert Oliver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.tech,
Subject: Need help with STAR TREK TIMELINE
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 00:46:53 EDT
Organization: Ailanthus Project

I need help with the following subjects for inclusion into the Star Trek 
Timeline. While I am going to list specific items I need, feel free to 
provide ANY time related information you wish. If you do respond, I would 
appreciate (my nice way of saying demand) that you give me an exact quote 
in context from the episode in question. This will help to keep the 
timeline as accurate as possible. I primarily need info from the Original 
Series and seasons 3 and 4 of the Next Generation. I plan on posting the 
timeline again on October 1st (only if I receive enough additional 
information to make it worthwhile). So far I have caught up with the TNG 
tapes I have (1st season and half of the second season) and have been 
adding stuff from the infrequent TOS and TNG re-runs on my local station. 
Any help will be greatly appreciated. By the way, can anyone confirm that 
Mike Okuda is working on a timeline book? If he is it makes me wonder if 
I am wasting my time on this?
 
THE MAN TRAP
How long ago was McCoy involved with Nancy Crater?
 
BALANCE OF TERROR
Any info about the Romulan War.
 
THE CONSCIENCE OF THE KING
When did the massacre by Kodos on Tarsus IV occur?
 
SPACE SEED
Anything concerning Khan's reign on Earth and the Eugenics Wars.
 
AMOK TIME
Anything info about Spock's "arranged marriage"
 
BREAD AND CIRCUSSES
When did the SS Beagle crash?
 
JOURNEY TO BABEL
Info on Sarek's age, Amanda's age and how long Sarek and Spock have not 
been speaking to each other.
 
THE SAVAGE CURTAIN
Info on Surak, Colonel Green and Kahless
 
ALL OUR YESTERDAYS
How far back into Sarpeidon's past did Spock travel?
 
PEAK PERFORMANCE
How long has the Hathaway been inactive?
 
TIN MAN
How old was Tin Man?
 
GENERAL
When was Alexander Rozhenko born?
 
Please send all replies via e-mail.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: ckeroack@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: When, when when? *mild panic*
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:23:29 GMT

			Could someone reassure me by sending me by private
e-mail as to when Boston's Fox station is premiering TNG? I seem to remember it
being the 26th, but lately my memory's been splintering and for all I know it
could be this weekend. Please hurry...
		
			Oh, and to add my 2 cents worth, homosexuality isn't a
disease. Just like demonstrating one's insecurity about their own sexuality and
irrational fear of something they don't understand isn't a disease. =)
Homosexuality is an issue that can and should be explored by ST:TNG since TNG
is indeed a forum for "20th century liberal values" just as TOS was a forum for
cold-war-era-60's-imperialistic values.   

						-Chris 
				                 ckeroack@hamp.hampshire.edu

Editor and Layout Coordinator for UpComing, the Magazine of Speculative 
Fiction... submissions BY SNAIL MAIL ONLY are cheerfully and rather 
gratefully accepted, though letters of inquiry by email are fine.
For info on the magazine, e-mail to address above... to submit, send with 
SASE to UpComing, Box 566, Hampshire College, Amherst, Mass., 01002, 
USA.

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