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From: sands@apple.com (Michael Sands)
Subject: Have new Sony TR 71, wanted an 81, help?
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:01:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc
Followup-To: rec.video

I received a Sony TR 71 in an insurance settlement and I really wanted
an 81.  The source of the insurance settlement does not carry the 81 and
I cannot return the camera for cash.

I want a 81.  I tried to exchange the camcorders at all the local stores
and found all required that the camcorders be purchased at their store to 
be upgraded.

I suppose I could sell the 71, taking a small loss on it in order to get
the money for the 81.  Anybody want to buy it?  It is still new in the box,
unused...

Any suggestions?

Why would a store not just want to take this camcorder, make some money
off me as I upgrade, and still have the lesser machine to sell?  Why are
they so careful.  Of course, I could have stolen it but I didn't!

Michael
From: jdgilardi@ucdavis.edu (James Gilardi)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: For Sale: Cannon Hi-8 H-800 & L1
Date: 18 Dec 92 22:00:05 GMT
Followup-To: rec.video
Organization: University of California, Davis

Two Hi-8 camcorders for sale in excellent condition:

Cannon H-800 with all the standard gear. + an ultra-wide and 2X lens
and an extra two-hour battery  $680 obo

Cannon L-1 with EOS adapter, plus all the standard gear  $1,800 obo

contact jdgilardi@ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: Andy Weir <Andy_Weir@icarus.curtin.edu.au>
Subject: Re: VHS Tapes - A Scam?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A75747D0C5023334@felix.curtin.edu.au>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 18 Dec 92 09: 18:08 GMT
Organization: Curtin University,  Perth,  Western Australia
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 01:20:03 GMT

In article <101075@netnews.upenn.edu> Bob Kupiec,
kupiec@hp800.lasalle.edu writes:

>Would buying one of these other tapes give me any substantial better
>sound or picture on a HiFi VCR?  Or is it just a scam to get you to buy
>the more expensive tape with the same material used to make the cheap
one?
>
>--------
>
>On another note, I've noticed that some "cheap" (~$3.00) tapes are
somewhat
>better than others (tape package and video quality as well).

On standard VCRs the cheaper tapes should work the best as the VHS system
is biased to the centre of the earlier available tapes.  The only VCRs
that can take advantage of the higher quality tapes are those with tape
tuning systems such as Akai Intelligent-HQ and to a lesser extent those
systems with other HQ capability.

With a standard VCR or simple HQ system the cheaper tapes will usually
give the better result.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: gre253@mis.csiro.au (Steven Green (+61 6 276 6813))
Subject: Re: why "karaoke" = "carry oki"
Organization: CSIRO ITS
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 22:58:00 GMT

In article <Bywrz9.L8z@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan) writes:
>
>In article <1992Dec07.094607.11087@microsoft.com> peterwu@microsoft.com (Peter Wu) writes:
>>Can someone explain why in usa "karaoke" is pronounced "carry oki"?
>>
>>I believe the proper pronounciation sounds closer to "color okay".
>
>Actually, it's closer to "Kah-rah-oak."
>

Regardless of how it is pronounced - I wish it would disappear - now!

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From: broberts@uafhp.uark.edu (ghunwi')
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: universal remote needed (specifics...)
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:51:16 GMT
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Howdy folks,                                            12-16-92
        I am in need of a new remote control. I have checked out the info
        booklet in the all for 1 remotes & have a slight problem. I have a 
        pair of RCA VHS-hifi's & would like a universal that will still be
        able to operate both of them independantly. My RCA remote has a vcr-1
         and vcr-2 setting that works both of them.  I also have a Technics
        CD player  a Pioneer LD and a Quasar TV. Kind of a motly bunch of     
        equip. but I'm working my way thru school & can't be picky. I plan on
        getting a new remote control  AV receiver but the ones that fit in my 
        slim budget don't have universals with them. Any help would be
        very well received by me. Please e-mail (or post) responses.
        My site does not feature posting, but I have tried to cross post this
        to both rec.video and rec.audio. Thanks in advance.
                                                Bruce F Roberts
                                                   (ghunwI')
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From: at887@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Butler)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Mailorder - AVOID Sunshine Video & Computers! (Longish)
Date: 19 Dec 1992 21:05:52 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Reply-To: at887@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Butler)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I had an interesting experience with a salesperson named Bob at 
a place called Sunshine Video Computers & Video.  I called them
after seeing their ad in the January 93 issue of Camcorder magazine.

I asked Bob for a price quote on a Sony TR-71 camcorder.  Bob quoted
me a price of $738.  I asked a few more questions (yes, they're an
authorized dealer; yes it's a factory sealed camcorder with all the
standard accessories and warranty).  Satisfied, I told Bob that I'd
like to order one.  Bob got my American Express card number from me
and then said he was going to tell me about some accessories I "needed"
to buy so that they could ship me the camera!  Excuse me!?  "Well, sir,
the price we quoted you is so low that we don't make any money on it.
We can't really sell you JUST the camcorder...".  I told the guy that I
was ONLY interested in the CAMCORDER, not a lot of expensive accessories.
"Well, you're going to have to buy some accessories anyway, so why not
buy them from us?" the guy says.  Well, what kind of accessories do you
have?  "We have a custom fitted case for $40, a two-hour battery for 
$69.95....".  That's too much,why can't you just send me the camcorder I
ordered?  "well, we've been SO honest with you about the price, and we
can't make any money on a price that low.....".  Let me see... I asked
for a price on a specific item, you gave me the price, I decided to 
order one and gave you my credit card number.  You now REFUSE to ship
me the camera unless I order a bunch of expensive accessories.  That's
not honesty, it's BULLSHIT!  "well, you're going to have to buy extra 
tapes and batteries ANYWAY...".  Fine, I said, exasperated, how much are
tapes?  "$6.99".  Throw in two tapes and you've got yourself a deal.
Sound of crumpling paper.  "Sorry sir, we can't work with you today."

Calling the manager only got me a basic lip-service job.  "I'll talk to
him about it" and an assurance that my credit card would not be billed
was all that I got out of him.  Watch out for Sunshine Video & Computers.

Anyway, I don't know if this is typical of mail-order places or not.  I
ended up ordering my camcorder from J&R Music World and got no bullshit
from them at all; the salesperson was extremely courteous and DID do a
little suggestive sell, but did not try to twist my arm or force me into
buying anything.  I ended up buying an additional Sony 90-minute battery
from John and, provided the camcorder arrives when it was promised, have
had a POSITIVE experience with J&R Music World so far.

Scott

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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: malecki@dvs.com (Dave Malecki)
Subject: Re: powered, active antennas
Organization: Digital Video Systems
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:18:06 GMT

Geoffrey L Yuen (yuen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu) wrote:
: I lived on the 13/F of a highrise building and have lots of ghosts
: infesting my TV images except for maybe two stations; would one
: of these amplified antenna (Schotz, Recoton, Germini) help me
: get better reception (some ads claim I get 28 Db improvement !?) ?
: 
: Which one of these have better reputation or performance ?
: 
: (I am not planning to get cable.)
: I desparately need to correct this because I am using a lens kit to
: project a large image (6'); any ghost or aberration got magnified
: tremendously on the big picture. On good stations & videotaped 
: materials, the quality was quite acceptable.
: 
: Many thanks in advance
: 
: - Geoff

Amplifying the signal will not fix your problem.  I am guessing that you
are trying to receive fairly local stations in the city.  The ghosting
is caused by multiple reflections from nearby and not so nearby buildings.
Amplifying this signal will only amplify the ghosts along with the signal
you want.  What you need is a highly directional antenna (like a yagi) and
aim it towards the transmission tower.  Being on the 13th floor, something
on the balcony would do the trick IF the station(s) you want are in the
direction you can see from your balcony.

Hope this helps.


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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Letterboxing home video
Date: 11 Dec 92 06:45:10 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Dec9.184832.7131@cis.ohio-state.edu> fontana@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Fontana) writes:
<
<Why do I want to letterbox home video?
<
<   1) To experiment with shooting video in more cinematic aspect
<      ratios, such as 1:1.85 and 1:2.33.

I hope you mean 1.85: and 2.33:1.  Otherwise you will have tall and narrow
videos, i.e., the black bars on the sides.
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From: evissch@cad033.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Eise Visscher)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Laser disk rentals in San Jose area?
Keywords: LD rental
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:37:07 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Intel Corp.

In article <1gjc2nINNul@fido.asd.sgi.com>, unmesh@sgi.com (Unmesh Agarwala) writes:
|> Santa's getting me a laserdisc player this year and I'm looking for
|> places that rent LD titles in this area.  The one closest to me,
|> Max's video, went out of business a few months back :-(
|> 
|> Any place close to 101 between MountainView and San Jose would be great.
|> 
|> Thanks,
|> 
|> -Unmesh

Tower Records comes to mind. You might also check out your local Wherehouse and Blockbuster
stores (some do some don't).
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                                                         (408) 765-5032 RN4-36
From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: "Larger" plastic sleeves for laserdisc
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:32:06 GMT
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/

What I miss is those Pioneer bags that had the plastic zipper, where you
could slip the LD in and then close the zipper.  They no longer make them --
instead they have a "zip-lock" bag which I don't find anywhere near as
handy.

                           Computer Dweeb For Choice...
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                 **>> Keep circulating the tapes <<**
From: jkung@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jimmy Kung)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Video Review
Date: 16 Dec 1992 04:53:20 -0600
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <14DEC199211462438@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> you write:
>It's back.....just got the annual buyer's guide.  Subscription: 8 issues 
>per year at $15.97. 

Yipee!  I always liked to read it in the school library, and 
although they might continue their subscription, is there an 800 
number (or long-distance I suppose) I can call to subscribe?

jkung@acs.ucalgary.ca      |  "It's better than bad,it's good!"
                           |             - Log(tm) by Blammo!
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: t90534am@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Akira Mito)
Subject: Re: RS-232C controlled Hi8 Deck
Organization: Department of Environmental Information,Keio University Shonan
	Fujisawa Campus(SFC),Japan.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:24:38 GMT

 Hi, I'm also in Kanagawa Prefecture(Japan) now.

In article <1992Dec14.090122.1@cav2.crc.canon.co.jp>
johan@cav2.crc.canon.co.jp writes:

 |1. Both RC-time code and "professional Hi8 time code" (what's the difference?)

 RC-time code is Rewritable Consumer time code. There's no
compatibility.

 |8. Pose-just (this is "Japlish" I think, does anyone understand the meaning?)

 This feature would be a auto tracking during still. You may
use the still picture for editing (only for insert editing).

 |Most of the above is controlled by the VISCA (RS-232C) port using the VISCA
 |protocol. Anyone who nows the details of this protocol ?

 Sony dealers handle its protocol book. I heard it costed over
$20.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Akira Mito(E-Mail:t90534am@sfc.keio.ac.jp)
  Junior@SFC(Keio Univ. Shownan Fujisawa Campus) 
  Department: Environmental Information (It's so COOL,isn't it?)
  Director of the SFC Hi-Vision Club, and member of SFC TiME, C-music.

Newsgroups: rec.video
From: jvannes@vms.macc.wisc.edu
Subject: Re: Need advice on LCD projector
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: 16 DEC 92 11:33:13    

In article <1992Dec15.230239.4921@seas.smu.edu>, dleon@seas.smu.edu (David Leon) writes...

>I have an option of buying a demo LCD projection unit for less than $3,000
>with the following specs:
> 
>Pixel Count: 338K, Resolution: 450 Lines, Dimensions : 8.9x10x22.5 (wxhxd)
>with warranty, Brightness: 550 Lumens, manufactued by Sanyo, 2 - way
>switching inputs, plus stereo 10 watts, 26lbs, 25-300" picture size.
> 
>Is this a good deal?  Please email responses to: dleon@seas.smu.edu
> 
>Thanks in advance,
> 
>David L. Leon
>dleon@seas.smu.edu
> 
This sounds an awful lot like the General Electric Imager 15 that I just
bought for $4500.  I like the picture quality and the portability.  No
maddening convergence set-up is necessary, and it looks as good as many
3 - CRT projectors.  Call GE Projection and Display products and try and find
out if the Imager 15 is made by Sanyo (mine came with SSanyo batteries for the
remote).  If it is the same model, I would recommend it highly.
From: phil@phunt.MV.COM (Phil Hunt)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Memorex Turbo CP8 (was Re: Universal Remote)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 14:27:44 EST
Organization: Howtek, Inc.
Reply-To: phil@phunt.MV.COM
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <1992Dec2.001550.1701@hparc0.aus.hp.com> (rec.video), doug@hparc0.aus.hp.com (Doug Parsons) writes:
] mmccann@eng.clemson.edu (Michael McCann) writes:
] : There is an article in this month's (December) issue of Consumer 
] : Reports which examines several different Universal Remotes.
] : 
] : Take a look at it.  By the way, they give top-ratings to the
] : Memorex CP8 Turbo.
] : 
] : Hope this helps,
] : ---
] : Mike McCann       (803) 656-1228   Internet = mmccann@eng.clemson.edu 
] 
] 

Well, the RadioShack version of the CP8, though a very nice unit, does NOT
have enough memory for me!

I put 6 controls into this unit and started getting 'FULL' errors.  

Why do these companies have to come out with great eqpt, then get CHEAP on
the requirements!!!!!!

Phil

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From: prmiskel@apgea.army.mil (Patricia R. Miskelly <prmiskel>)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: This group is worthless (cable signal amplifiers)
Date: 17 Dec 92 14:35:07 GMT
Organization: Edgewood

In article <9212142249.AA27078@pserv.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM> ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com (Otto Heuer #3) writes:
>
>I can't believe that with 9.5 million people on the internet and 35,000
>reading this group (*) that NO ONE even has a CLUE about boosting cable
>signals.
>
>I posted a couple weeks ago asking (in a much more polite tone than this
>is being written in) if anyone had any opinions on what are the better
>models of TV cable signal boosters are (and what models I should stay 
>away from.
>
>I got thirteen replies.  EVERY SINGLE RESPONSE was someone wanting the
>same information, so there does seem to be a demand, but not one
>bloody person took a moment to give an answer, so these 13 people
>are going to have to remain in the dark as I apparently will have to.
>
>I always figured that beneath the juvenile wars between laserdisc lovers,
>HI-8 lovers, S-VHS lovers, etc, there was an occasional post with some 
>useful information.  Apparently, all the people who would post useful 
>information to rec.video got fed up and left (as perhaps should I).
>
>Sigh.  And to the thirteen people who asked that I forward any info I get,
>sorry to tell you--there is no Santa Claus (or if there is, he's too busy
>in a flame-fest to help out).
>
>(*) = Anyone know why this dropped so drastically from 70,000 subscribers
>in August of 1992?  I find it hard to believe that half of the subscribers
>left (though I can understand why).  Did they change the way they calculate
>readership or something?
>
>                --Otto "HACK-MAN" Heuer

Temper temper!!!  Do I detect real tears?

Pat Miskelly

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From: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: D O E S   A M E R I C A   S A Y   Y E S   T O   J A P A N ?
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:54:26 GMT
Reply-To: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Annapolis, MD

In rec.video, Power@cup.portal.com (Ron A Uitz) writes:
>The first time this was posted, I thought to myself that Japanese trade
>practices were off topic.  Now that this has been posted again, I'll
>waste bandwidth myself asking why it is posted here.  The commentary
>makes some interesting points (mostly stolen from a PBS documentary),
>but it belongs somewhere else.

I personally think this article does have a place in rec.video - and
in all the other newsgroups having an interest in goods which happen
to be largely imported from Japan. Examples: rec.photo, rec.audio, rec.autos,
rec.video.production.

As a user of video and photo equipment which comes 99% from Japan, I
am vitally concerned about how my country has really missed the technological
boat on some of the most important and popular consumer electronic devices
ever.  As a pro video user as well, I am also very frustrated with how
the japanses makers of this equipment have the attitude that whatever
they make for us, we'll just take and like.  The business about Japanese
responsiveness to customer desires is a tactic to capture markets and
drive the competition out of business.  Perfection is part of the Japanese
culture and manufaturing ethic, but not necessarily customer sensitivity.
WE have been struggling with their offerings because there is no domestic
source of cameras, VCR and signal processors to give them a run for
thier money (I am specifically talking about cost-effective industrial
video gear used for special events work).

If by some miracle a viable American consumer and professional video
industry re-emerges, I for one will take a whole new view of the importance
of buying American.  It has also become clear to me how the Japanese
view the market success of many of their industries as part of a quasi-military
operation.  Pearl Harbor is symbolically still under attack.

   /|/| /||)|/  /~ /\| |\|)[~|)/~   |   Everyone's entitled to MY opinion.
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
Subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-D701 (my experiences)
Organization: Columbia U., New York City
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 04:55:15 GMT
Reply-To: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
X-Posted-From: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <BzHEFq.GE0@icon.rose.hp.com> jimr@mothra.rose.hp.com (Jim Ranlett) writes:
>
>I believe they started selling them in May/June 92.  My player had a 
>manufacturing date of April 1992.  If you cannot afford a CLD-95 (~$1700?)
>(reviewed by William Cruce in an earlier post), the D701 is worth looking
>at.  The Phillips CDV-488 is also well regarded, although I personally
>have no experience with it, never having seen one.
>
	It seems that the only conclusion about the D701 is that,
although they work as intended, there is a large failure rate
since there are several people in this group (myself included)
who got players with problems.
	-- Ethan


"I have never seen one of these intact before... This is the
famous dead-sea tupperware"

	-- Robin Williams
From: evissch@cad033.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Eise Visscher)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Laser disk rentals in San Jose area?
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:31:51 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Intel Corp.

In article <BzBE6F.9z4@icon.rose.hp.com>, jimr@mothra.rose.hp.com (Jim Ranlett) writes:
|> While I'm still thinking about it, I seem to recall that Blockbuster Video
|> was renting LDs at one point in time.  I saw them for rent at the store
|> on the corner of El Camino and Bowers(?) across from the Keystone video game
|> arcade.
|> 
|> Jim

Tower Records comes to mind. You might also check out your local Wherehouse and Blockbuster
stores (some do some don't).
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Newsgroups: rec.video