From: dweddin@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Fischer's Odds (was Re: FSII -- PLAYER PERFORMANCE)
Date: 10 Oct 92 15:32:44 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services


response to eric schiller's comments.

>> 
>>   >Anand-Fischer would be more interesting. I think Anand would
>>   >be about a 5-3 favorite. But then I am conservative! <grin>
>>   >

not on his best day....<grin>


>>   >More reasonable odds:
>>   >
>>   >Fischer-Damljanovic (reportedly next match), 25-1 Fischer,
>>   >	6-1 on a shutout?
>>   >

next match will be against Karpov. i feel it in my bones...but i
like the 25-1 odds in favor of bobby.


>>   >Fischer-Speelman or Fischer-Timman (3-2 against Fischer)
>>   >

bobby will win

>>   >Fischer-Karpov (4-1 against Fischer)
>>   >

bobby will win and karpov will NEVER BE THE SAME (like spassky in 1972)

>>   >Fischer-Seirawan (5-1 Fischer)
>>   >

ya, if bobby takes him lightly, it will be 5-1...otherwise...

>>   >Fischer-Kasparov (50-1 Kasparov)

not if every man, woman, and child on the planet got down on their
hands and knees and prayed to God in heavan. Gary Kasparov would
be so far out of his league that it wouldn't be funny. 

if he stops acting so damn arrogant and pays attention he might
pick up some pointers while getting the stuffing kicked out of
him by bobby.

> 
> But really, I post these "odds" just as an opinion, not as data
> for mathematical manipulation. And I am reflecting not only my
> own opinion, but that of at least a few K's (Kasparov, Keene)
> with whom I have discussed these matters.
>

gee, how OBJECTIVE do you think ol' mr. kasparov was when he gave
that opinion???  come to think of it, i notice a lot of top notch
players are dissing Fischer.

sounds to me less like professional opinion and more like bitterness,
jealousy, and sour grapes. they don't like all the attention that
he's getting and probably are drooling and the 3.5 million dollars
he's going to collect. 

 
> The only real question is: just how well is Fischer playing, and
> how much and how quickly is he likely to improve? Only time
> will tell (it usually does), 

he is playing great...and is improving with every game. i believe
that the match is already effectively over, since mr. spassky has
already come down with "Fischer-Fever".

this happens when any GM is in a long drawn out battle with bobby.
his drive to win EVERY SINGLE GAME wears down an opponent...kind of
like wrestling with a Boa Constrictor.


> but I have to admit that I just
> plain get annoyed seeing people proclaim Fischer some sort of
> contemporary chess god without any foundation. 

no eric, you got it wrong. i don't proclaim bobby to be a chess
god with "no foundation"...

i proclaim bobby to be a chess god because he simply IS a chess
god. his entire life has given be no evidence to consider him 
as anything but a chess god.

now when YOU start mopping up the floor with the greatest chess
talent in the world and taking on an enemy as powerful as FIDE
and the Soviet Chess Machine (same thing), then i will consider
you to be a "chess god" and will take your opinions about bobby
to heart.

> We look at the 
> games and we judge. Kinda like people claiming that Tampa
> Bay is going to the superbowl. 

not at all, you are begging the question that bobby can be compared
to a bunch of no talent bums. wrong.

> Acceptable talk in Florida,
> perhaps, but not taken seriously in the Midwest. Why?

in other words, 

"it's acceptable for us patzers to think bobby's the greatest, but
not taken seriously by REAL CHESS EXPERTS like you" why? you ask...

because the real chess experts are kicking themselves that bobby
can take 20 years off...come back and get a 5 million dollar purse...
command the chess world's spot light...and still play circles around
these "experts".

so does anybody wonder why these "experts" don't take bobby seriously?

bitterness and jealousy. plane and simple.

that's why they make comments like, "gosh, if i didn't know it was
bobby making that move, i'd think it was my senile gradmother".


well eric, while you're stewing on my comments, i think i'll go
sacrifice a rook on the alter of the chess god...Bobby Fischer.


don wedding



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