From: rivk@ellis.uchicago.edu (nora gayle rivkis)
Subject: Re: CLINTON SPEECH TEXT: RABIN MEETING
Reply-To: rivk@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 15:09:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.023849.2438387@locus.com> jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000) writes:
>In article <BtMH14.FMo.2@cs.cmu.edu> anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar Mohammed) writes:
>
>>I haven't made *any* comment on the Middle East Peace talks since your
>>ridiculous tirades against Kuwaitis.  From then on, I have had no interest 
>>in the Peace talks other than to assure a guarantee of peace for Kuwait 
>>from its foes (and 'friends'), just as you have no interest in anyone
>>else's well being but your own.
>
>Good for you.  Typical of Gulf richman (with some exceptions).  Aren't
>we glad you're off of our back.  

This is hardly the way to win someone back to your cause, Mr. Elghani...
not that I'm complaining.

>Speaking of peace for Kuwait:  This is the begining of the road.  The
>Israelis shall occupy Kuwait as well as Saudia.  Remember, they claim
>that the arabian peninsula (Shibh Al Jazeera) is theirs.  

I'd always suspected you were clinically paranoid, Mr. Elghani... this
is classic evidence for the fact. It's also one of the craziest lies I've
ever seen. There are a few -- read probably less than a few thousand in a
country of millions -- Israelis who think that some of Jordan and some of
Syria were part of the Biblical kingdom, and hence are theirs. The rest
are divided between accepting current borders and accepting current bor-
ders minus the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. Nobody, but nobody, wants
the Arabian peninsula. This is insanity about on a level with the lady I
encountered who was convinced that human beings were naturally immortal
and that everyone in history who has died has done so because the Jews
killed them. Get treatment.

>Also, don't be fooled with those pro-israeli Kuwait sympathizers
>on this net.  They are so glad you and I are attacking each other.
>This is what israel wished, planned for and achieved. 

Israel actually cares about what any of us choose to yell at each other
over the net. Right. More paranoia. Israel didn't plan your stupidity,
Mr. Elghani, although they may try to capitalize on that of others like
you; and Israel could not care less whether you and Mr. Mohammed argue
with each other. I'm probably the pro-Israeli Kuwait sympathizer you're
referring to, and I'd prefer you *weren't* arguing with each other, be-
cause I think you're being obnoxious to someone who doesn't deserve it
and I'd rather it stopped. I didn't start out particularly sympathetic
to Kuwait, but the combination of its behavior during and just after the
war wrt Israel's decision to hold its fire in the interest of achieving
common goals, which was the most honorable behavior I've seen out of any
Arab country except Egypt, and Mr. Mohammed's articles, have made me
rather like the place. That, and keeping you from attacking someone I
respect independently of his country for his willingness to discuss
things reasonably, are my only interests in the question.

>jle

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