HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lea@caleb.lbl.gov (Lon Amerman)
Subject: Re: rack info sought
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:08:41 GMT

I just made a couple of "racks" for home use. I
wouldn't recommend these for anything other than
home or studio use.
I bought two O'Sullivan printer stands from a 
computer furniture store. These stands are 
~30" high and are 19" wide (inside dimensions).
The inside dimensions of the stands is almost
exactly 19", so to avoid cramping your modules
you might shim the sides out with a thin strip of
cardboard while assembling.The printer stands come
with 2 shelves and *wheels*.
I repositioned the shelves (you need to drill a 
few holes for this),  and screwed a 3/4x 
1-1/2 strip of *hardwood* (maple) on the inside.
I fastened the strips to the sides and my modules
to the strips with #6 flat head screws and finish
washers. Finish washers aren't regular flat
washers although you could use those too along with
a round head type screw. If the mounting strips get
chewed up - after much use - they can easily be replaced.
It's acceptable looking - if you don't object to
laminated particle board - and very handy. The top
of the stand is a useful shelf and the ability to 
wheel it about saves the back.
Cost $35 at Office Club.
Assembly time 30-45 min.
Capacity > 16 rack spaces. 
l

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: rolfe@fraser.sfu.ca (Christopher John Rolfe)
Subject: Re: Mac Classic II for MIDI?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:29:19 GMT

jawalsh@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (John Anthony Walsh) writes:

>Looking for advice (again)?  Can some one tell me if a Mac Classic II
>(w/ the Motorola '030 processor) is sufficient for most Mac MIDI
>applications?  Sure the little black and white screen is a pain in the
	I used one during the summer running MAX, HMSL, and some FORTH
routines ( not all at once, mind ). The FORTH routines were the most
demanding running at 1 ms. interrupts and generating high-bandwidth
MIDI out. I found no problems.
	In bench tests it was nearly as fast as my LC, which I've found 
easily sufficient for MIDI I/O. 
	Lack of expansion slots is a pain, but yes MIDI boxes hang out
one of the serial ports.  
	Memory is crucial.  System 7 takes up at least a MEG ( usually
closer to two ) so by all the SIMM you can afford ( I guess the
Classic II can handle up to 8 MEG ). 

	
Chris
rolfe@sfu.ca

	
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: elambert@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Eber Lambert)
Subject: MPU-401 PC card
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:33:46 GMT

Well this semi-novice finally got his PC. Now I need toget an MPU-401
compatible Midi-card. Anyone have any mail order recommendations/prices
models/features etc. I want to use Cakewalk,Drummer and Band in the box
and would like some basic sync track capability for recording. 


Any comment for the experience impaired are welcome.
Go easy, I'm an analog creature.

el
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: dce@smsc.sony.com (David Elliott)
Subject: Re: PERFORMER v3.61 FOR SALE $73.95
Keywords: PERFORMER v3.61 FOR SALE $73.95
Organization: Sony Microsystems, San Jose, CA
Distribution: rec.music.synth
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 17:06:36 GMT


There seems to be some questions on the points of selling software in
general.

The first thing to realize is that almost all commercial software use
requires a license, and that is mostly what you are buying when you buy
a software package.  Without a license, you may not legally use the
software.  If anyone does not agree that this is correct, we should
discuss this, because it is the basis of everything I'm saying.

Many companies are quite explicit about transfer of license.  Quoting
from several Microsoft license cards:

	3. OTHER RESTRICTIONS.  You may not rent or lease the SOFTWARE,
	but you may transfer the SOFTWARE and accompanying written
	materials on a permanent bases provided you retain no copies
	and the recipient agrees to the terms of this Agreement.  You
	may not reverse engineer, decompile, or disassemble the
	SOFTWARE.  If the SOFTWARE is an update or has been updated,
	any transfer must include the most recent update and all prior
	versions.

The Assymetrix Toolbook license is similar, though they say you must
destroy all copies you do not transfer.  Some license agreements are
not so clear (Borland C++ and CorelDraw aren't explicit about upgrades,
but they are explicit about transfer of license).

I don't have a Performer in front of me (I'm still waiting for my 4.0
upgrade), but I seem to recall some discussions in the past that said
that Performer doesn't provide for transfer of ownership at all, though
obviously if you haven't registered it, you should be able to sell it
and allow the buyer to register it (in which case the only restrictions
would be as to whether or not MOTU would accept a late registration
card).

--
...David Elliott
...dce@smsc.sony.com | ...!{uunet,mips}!sonyusa!dce
...(408)944-4073
..."I take my arms and I wrap them around my art." - F
From: markp@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Mark A. Pitcher)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Trigger > MIDI converter
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 08:42:11 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Dark Park

Jon Crystal <OFABJC@UVMADMIN.BITNET> writes:

> Mark:  Doesn't the X7000 already have the capacity to be triggered from a sta
> ard foot switch? I don't think you need any converter.

	Yes, but that's for only one key. I want an octave so I
can play a bass line with my feet while playing guitar or keyboards, or be
able to trigger several samples via many smaller pedals strewn across a stage.


-------------------------------------------------------------------darkPARK BBS

markp@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Mark A. Pitcher)

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers
From: sihd_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Dan Shimmyo)
Subject: Re: Survey on digital recording
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 22:07:27 GMT

I'm considering going digital.  I plan on getting a Macc IIci and eventually
getting the software and hardware needed to do some serious digital recording.
I haven't looked into the software yet but I'm pretty sure I'll find what I 
want. I'm planning on spending around $5000 for the computer and I'm not sure
how much software is but I'll shop around for it later.  
  Maybe someone that has experience with this sort of equipment could fill me
in on a few details (what software to get, etc...).
  Anyway, the main reason I want to go digital is that I don't like having to 
deal with tape recorders that record on different speeds and I like the idea
of copies sounding just like the originals (assuming this is true).
Dan
From: ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (  179  Peter Thelen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: F.M. (was Re: Nash the Slash Rises Again!!!)
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:15:32 GMT
Reply-To: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <13712@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>Seems like every one in this group knows Nash personally.  But for those that
>don't, and I assume that we're talking about Nash the Slash,  he played with
>a group called FM.  I don't have a complete discography but do have "Black 
>Noise" and "Surveilance".  Black Noise is an excellent progressive rock album
>that belongs in every prog-rock fans collection.  

FM discography:         Opinion:  Comments:
1. Headroom  1977       Great     Hawkins,Deller,Mink-> Great Fusion
2. Black Noise 1978     Great     Hawkins,Deller,Slash-> One of Their Best
3. Surveillance  1979   Great     Hawkins,Deller,Mink-> Another Best
4. City of Fear  1980   So-So     Hawkins,Deller,Mink-> A 50%er at most
5. Con-Test  1985       Stinks    Hawkins,Deller,Slash,Mink->total sellout
7. Tonight  1987        Stinks+   Hawkins,Slash,+2 new guys->modern pop

Hawkins of course is Cameron Hawkins, Keyboards Bass & Vocals,
Mink is Ben Mink, Violin,Mandolin, and Guitar on (5), now w/ kd Lang
Deller is Martin Deller on drums. Nash the Slash played violin, mandolin
harmonica, and sang.
Anyone know when their stuff is coming out on CD ? (does Greg Stone know?)
Those first 3 are a must for every prog collector.


ptlk
(ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com)
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: SY99 has no peers? .. Ignore long header ..
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:54:00 GMT

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There is no.. NO ... synthesizer currently available which is capable of more
powerful synthesis than the K2000.  The correct way of looking at a K2000 is
as a wonderfully elaborate synthesizer which also happens to be capable of
functioning as a sampler/sample player.  Another way to look at it is as
a synthesizer with 88 Meg Bytes of root wave fodder.  The SY99 is a toy
in comparison to the synthesis possibilities of the K2000.  For one thing,
the K2000 does analog-type subtractive synthesis better than anything I have
ever used including a Polyfusion rack!

John
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:45:04 BST
From:         The Brown Bottle <ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Stereo sampling on a mono sampler
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU

Hi. Thanks to the person who recommened an article in Music Technology about
stereo sampling/playback on a mono sampler. The article was by Howard Massey,
and included a very interesting hint that I will pass on to the newsgroup.

To sample both left and right sides of a stereo image accurately, copy the
sound onto tape. Then record a mono drumbeat (or other sound with a sharp
attack) just before the sound, taking care to ensure that the levels of
the two channels are even. Then record both channels using the drum sound
to trigger sampling. Edit the drum sound from the front of one sample, then
cut an identical number of samples off the start of the other sample. The
result should be two samples more or less perfectly synchronised.

DISCLAIMER: I haven't tried this myself yet, maybe I should have waited until
(mumble mumble mumble).

Cheers,

Ross-c
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:03:23 EDT
From: <PXR5@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: info.keyboard.wanted

I AM NEW TO THIS GROUP. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW SOME INFORMATION REGARDING
ELECTRONIC KEYBOARDS. I AM BEGINNER IN MUSIC. I WOULD LIKE TO BYE A NEW
ELECTRONIC KEYBOARD ( COST BELOW $250). I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY INFORMATION
REGARDING MAKE MODEL,AND PERFORMANCE. THANKS TO
RAVI
From: duslt@dcatla.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Why are there synths?
Date: 16 Jul 92 17:26:34 GMT
Organization: Digital Communications Associates, Alpharetta, GA

For those like myself who would use a synth primarily in a studio environment,
your arguments regarding replacing them with a full-blow computer system with
appropriate expansion cards and interfaces makes a lot of sense, but what 
about those among us who are actually keyboard players.

I for one would hate to have to drag a complete computer system, plus cables,
plus a keyboard controller, plus disks, etc., all over the country to every
gig.  Having everything you need to play keyboard in one compact box that you
can easily throw in a road case would be a lot more convenient.

But with the advent of good, fast, notebook PCs, and since it seems like most
keyboard players nowdays carry 3 keyboards, two or three modules, and a bunch
of effects, maybe the computer idea makes more sense after all.

Lee Taylor
Atlanta, GA
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: kgeib@maui.qualcomm.com (Ken Geib)
Subject: Re: Kurzweil K2000 Sample Board
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:17:26 GMT

Jason.Alexander@p16.f215.n163.z1.fidonet.org (Jason Alexander) writes:

>Has anyone seen the new Sample board for the K2000 yet?  Does anyone know
>how they expect to fit it into the present NON sampling K2000?  I'm going
>to be ordering a K2000 WITHOUT the sampling option because of a) price and
>b) I will use a $350 Peavey SX and totally awesome Steinberg Avalon on the
>Atari ST instead of spending $1000 for the sampling option.

>I expect that you'll be able to sample via the auxilary outputs that
>double as inputs.  this will prevent them from having to drill into the
>case of the K2000.  At least they were smart enough to pre-wire all
>necessary items for a true sampler such as the SCSI port and the software
>chip space.  It's all sitting there, just waiting for the chip. The new
>card supposedly has souped up sample editing software not much different
>from that found in the Akai S-1100.

The sampler is a complete board, which is installed in the left side of the
keyboard near the SCSI port.  There is a punch out panel on the back of the
keyboard where the sample inputs attach.  The inputs include both analog
and digital ports.  The other output/inputs are not connected to the sampler
option at all.

KGeib@qualcomm.com
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:01:21 CDT
From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject: Re: Portamento...
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@ada3.ca.boeing.com

It's definitely on the Yamaha 4-op synths.  You can also assign the
footswitch (at least on the V50) to portamento control (portamento
speed is variable for the voice but is in the voice parameters --
i.e., footswitch controls portamento-on/off).

Bob
crispen@foxy.boeing.com
From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Portamento...
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:57:39 GMT
Organization: BASIS International, Ltd., Albuquerque NM USA

In article <1992Jul30.160418.29175@spider.co.uk> stuartm@spider.co.uk (Stuart MacNeill) writes:
>Hi there,
>
>Stop me if you've heard this one before, but, does anyone know what has 
>happened  to the "Portamento" or "Glide" feature on today's digital synths.
>I own a KORG Wavestation, and it doesn't have this feature, but my old Moog
>Prodigy from way back had it. Is this feature available on any of the latest
>digital machines ????

Portamento seemed to disappear when sample players started to take over.
Perhaps it is a little more difficult to do with sample playback (although
I don't see why).  It seems to be making a comeback though.

-- 
Scott Amspoker                       |    
Basis International, Albuquerque, NM |  Too bad ignorance isn't really
                                     |  bliss.  Then it could be outlawed.
scott@bbx.basis.com                  |
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: cctony@sun1.mcsr.olemiss.edu (Tony Reynolds)
Subject: Re: Attn:  MIDI Newcomers!
Organization: Mississippi Center for Supercomputing Research
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:52:55 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.205333.1@acad2.alaska.edu> asrbb@acad2.alaska.edu writes:
>Attention MIDI Newcomers!                                            
>
>Don't post to this newsgroup if you need assistance or information about
>MIDI topics.  Speaking from experience, the people who post here are not
>interested in your problems or troubles...you're on your own!

Sheesh, man, if your question was worded as this out-of-the-blue post,
well, maybe that's the reason why you didn't get any help!

When I asked for help on making a MIDI Thru cable for my synths which
only have IN and OUT, I received 13 good responses (count 'em, 13) and
the signal-to-noise ratio was incredibly high.  I know what I have to
do (I can make a temporary splitter cable, but the long-term solution
is to buy a used MIDI "splitter")

>Sorry about that, but that's just the way it seems to go and I thought
>I'd save you some time.  Try the magazines and users groups in your area
>if you want support.

Nah, I'm available.  I'll answer what I can, and tell you straight
when I don't have an answer.

Cya.

-- 
Tony Reynolds            Have you hugged      cctony@sun1.mcsr.olemiss.edu
Cray Network Intern    your Washburn today?                  (601)232-7206
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:11:09 PDT
Reply-To:     dunn@intellicorp.com
From:         Casey Dunn <DUNN@SAFFRON.BITNET>
Subject:      Survey on digital recording
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AMERICAN.EDU

You said (Re: Survey on digital recording)

well, in a bit more detail..

> This is a little survey on the current digital trend...
> 1. has or would consider purchasing a home digital work station?
	would consider, my stack of old mac's and PC's don't count as
	a digital wkstation, no matter what the SO thinks.
> 1a. has or would consider purchasing an A/D and/or D/A converter?
	would consider, but now probably use one in a DAT deck.
> 2. What platform would you prefer using?
	no problem. mac, pc, sun, RS6000, hp.
> 2a. Would you rather use a computer or a standalone (ie Roland)?
	guess. >grin<. actually, I'm happy hooking things up and
	having cables strewn about.
> 3. What features would you require/like?
	somthing like protools real cheap. mebby with a standalone
	DSP for more effects.
> 4. What price range would get you into stores?
	ha. el cheapo. probably inpossible.

> 5. How much would you be willing to spend?
	2->3K dead american presidents.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: aa596@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter Haller)
Subject: Re: Turtle Beach Multisound
Reply-To: aa596@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter Haller)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 21:56:53 GMT


In a previous article, davecole@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (David Cole) says:

>BTW you can get a CD that demos the card (with a heavy handed comparison with
>the Soundblaster and PAS (not PAS-16)) for $3 including shipping from Turtle
>Beach.  But one thing they don't tell you is if the card comes with any
>software, or if so, what it is.
>What software does the Turtle Beach card include??
>
The MS comes with Wave Lite - or it will a coupon is in the box
that says as soon as it is available they will ship it: I'm still
waiting. The latest driver is available in beta and adds a number of
new features and new 'applets' as TB calls them. They have a good
support area on CI$. Also, The full Wave for Windows is discounted to
MS owners at $79. This adds full DSP filtering and resampling to
the Wave Lite package. Again, this is not available yet. Over all, the
card is great. The audio specs and performance are unbelievable considering
the noise infested envorioment of your typical PC.

One bad note: The card does not ship with the MIDI adaptor cable ($11 ,or
you can build it yourself - simple) and no Proteus manual ($11).

PCH

-- 
Peter C. Haller				|	'If you do what you
Lorain Products				|	have always done,
aa596@cleveland.Freenet.Edu 		|	expect what you have
"Are we having fun yet?"		|	always received.'
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music
From: beltran@ns.network.com (Tony R. Beltran)
Subject: Re: Please help QUICK! M1 or SQ80? Urgent...
Organization: Network Systems Corporation
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 13:42:52 GMT

In article <177@quad.sialis.com> dts@quad.sialis.com (David Sandberg) writes:
[comments deleted -- see original post for these]
>at the moment.  (The M1 sequencer is certainly useless, though.)
>
>-- 
>                  _ david sandberg _ dts@quad.sialis.com _

Just a comment on the observation about the M1 sequencer.  I don't have
an M1, but I do know several people who do.  Among them is a person who
has a Masters degree in music and can play many instruments very well
as a result of years of hard work.  He is a very capable composer and
arranger.  He has an M1 and I have heard him do excellent work using
just the M1 with its sequencer.  It seems to me that while a lot of 
good music can certainly be made with the "right" equipment (whatever
it may be this week), there is no substitute for real learned ability
on multiple families and a thorough grounding in music principles to
make a piece of useless equipment give account of itself.

Tony
From: quantum@babss.UUCP (Quantum Audio Concepts)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: For Sale
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:12:00 GMT
Organization: Bell Atlantic Business Systems Services, Branford CT. 06405

For sale:

Yamaha TG55	380	(w/ 32k RAM)
Kawai K5m	365
Kawai K3m	215	(w/ Dr T editor - Atari)
Roland Axis	400	(silver, has new battery)


split UPS shipping

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: tmm@world.std.com (Tom M Moravansky)
Subject: Wavepool disk for the uWave
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 11:17:31 GMT

The Wavepool disk of public domain patches is available!

How to get it:  Send a self-addressed stamped envelope/mailer to

Dave Gould 
3710 26th Place West
Seattle, WA  98199

Specify Mac (Galaxy format), Atari (comes w. sysex utility), or IBM.
The Mac and Atari are available NOW and the IBM will be available in a
couple of weeks.  As always, for the IBM, please specify disk size.

Now - "Why are they doing it this way and not just uploading them to a BBS?"
  The answer I got from Dave was approximately:

1) Waldorf is trying to build dealer support and encouraging buyers to
   talk to their local uWave dealers.  To this end, they are giving the
   dealers the disks.  The dealers can charge up to $10 for the disks,
   but they are strongly encouraged to give them away as a value-added
   thing to new uWave purchasers.

2) Despite the number of uWaves sold in the US, only about 110 owners
   have bothered to send in their registration cards.  By having an
   owner send a request to Dave they can get a better handle on the
   number of uWave owners.

Problems with this approach?  Call Dave (206) 285-0262 and let him know
your objections.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music
From: smill@polari.online.com
Subject: ARP parts distributor
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix (206) 328-4944
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 06:55:21 GMT


	I have an ARP Odyssey in the repair shop.  Seems the parts
distributor he was using is no longer in business, though.  Anyone
have contact info I could pass along re: where to locate parts?

Thanks in advance...
-- 
Steven M. Miller		"The history of music evolution is
smill@polari.online.com		 not the history of nice guys"
smill@online.com			-- Anthony Braxton
smill%polari@online.com
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:20:50 PDT
From:         jdw1270 <jdw1270@EENPW129.BOEING.COM>
Subject: Re: Run that by me again!!!!! (was Re: Attn: MIDI Newcomers!)
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AMERICAN.EDU
Comments: cc: hgs@WDL1.WDL.LORAL.COM

> Attention MIDI Newcomers!
>
> Don't post to this newsgroup if you need assistance or information about
> MIDI topics.  Speaking from experience, the people who post here are not
> interested in your problems or troubles...you're on your own!
>
> Sorry about that, but that's just the way it seems to go and I thought
> I'd save you some time.  Try the magazines and users groups in your area
> if you want support.
>
>

Is this guy serious?  What kind of attitude is this? We all have to start at
the beginning.  Perhaps Harry should try the Mac-L forum.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth