HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dks@sr.com (Dave K. Sprow)
Subject: Re: Something that's NOT attractive. . . .
Reply-To: dks@srhqla.UUCP (Dave K. Sprow)
Organization: Silent Radio, Los Angeles
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:30:26 GMT

In article <By6p4o.InB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jlamb@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey Richard Lamb) writes:
>
>
>I know the ONE thing that completly turns me away from a woman is
>smoking.I can't help it, it just drives up the wall. Anyone else
>have things that are definate no-no's in a potential romance?
>
>
Picking and flicking in public...

>-- 
>H. Ross Perot | "How do you always manage to    | Jeff R. Lamb
>for President | decide?" 			| Midnight Arrow
>of the United | "How do you let others decide   | Champion of Reality
>States in '96 | for you?"	   -Ayn Rand 	| (jlamb@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu)

David S.
From: pnr0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PAUL N. RITTER)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: How to increase the male sex drive ?
Date: 20 Nov 92 10:12:14 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


  In article <1247@abb-sc.abb-sc.COM>, ksm@abb-sc.abb-sc.com (Ashley) writes:
>
>
>>On a serious note, I have a couple of questions to pose to the net about what
>>can affect a male's sex drive.  Basically, I am about 29 (male), have been
>>SO-less for the last 4 years (by choice), and have recently met an incredible
>>woman (about 31) with, to put it lightly, a very high sex drive.  My sex drive
>>has reduced markedly over the past 4 years, and I would like to do what I can
>>to increase it.  Question, is there any particular diet that is recommended ?
>>Is exercise particularly recommended ?  Anything else ?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Mark
>
>       Ashley the Witch here. Might post this to alt.pagan, you'd get a lot of
>replies about herbal aphrodisiacs there. My reccomendations? Hmm. Depends on
>your metabolism. Excuse me, GREATLY depends on your metabolism. Here's a few I
>know of that have worked in my experiences:
>
>               1) Damiana
>               2) Rosehips
>               3) Chocolate
>               4) Genseig
>               5) Fo-Ti
>               6) Thermagen
>
>                       I usually mix some of these ingredients into a tea and
>administer. Get a good book on herbalism first before trying, too much of a
>good thing is NOT a good thing and can be dangerous! Jeannie Rose's book "Herbs

>and Things" is a good start. Above all avoid Spanish Fly. It is not safe and is

>not an aphrodisiac. It produces sensitivity and tingling in the genitals, and
>extremedies, if it does not KILL YOU.
>
>       Read first, then experiment. Good luck.
>
>
>                       - Ashley
>
    What makes Spanish Fly deadly? I thought it was illegal to misrepresent a
    poison for an aphrodisiac....
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: Description of the Fetal Remains from an Abortion
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:57:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.204329.10301@ncsu.edu>, dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov21.210107.7915@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> 
|> smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith) writes:

|> > You know something?  You would probably be better off bringing up interesting
|> > points such as why everyone is all up in arms about your post, when not so
|> > long ago someone posted some ridiculous pseudo-science about how "aura's"
|> > prove that unborn babies have no soul and almost no one bothered to reprimand
|> > him for "invading the newsgroup." 
|> 
|> I think I know why people have objected to my posting of a  
|> description of the fetal remains from an abortion, and it's
|> not because it's "inappropriate" for this newsgroup.  There
|> are ongoing political discussions in this newsgroup, and
|> nobody seems to care. 

Which, of course, is exactly my point. Nevertheless, here you go with that
damn annoying .sig again... 

|>   "It was easy to shrug off an aborted pregnancy as nothing more than
...

jds

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From: bill@rchland.vnet.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:54:45 GMT
Reply-To: bill@tran.fishkill.ibm.com ()
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <7308@news.duke.edu>, diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth
Abrams) writes:
> In article <lh25e4INN5u4@news.bbn.com> kgorman@bbn.com (Karen Gorman) writes:
> >
> >Or how about; "Hi, I'm Elizabeth Abrams.  Please call me Elizabeth."
> >Direct and clear.  This way you can save all your "hostilities" for someone
> >who truely derserves them.
> 
> I feel that someone who mangles names without prior permission *does*
> truly deserve hostility.  (Not violence, understand, just hostility.)
> I think saying, "Hi, my name's Elizabeth Abrams" IS pretty direct
> and clear.  I've just told you what my name is, so why are you going
> to assume that it's really something else?
> 
> >But you're forgetting, you are the one with the preference.  IMO, stating
> >the rules in the beginning is the best and fairest way to proceed.
> 
> I really don't think that a preference for being called by one's 
> name is all that unusual.  I suspect you have a preference for being
> called "Karen", rather than "Lisa", "Jane", "Susan" or (for that matter)
> "Robert".  Why might you expect someone to call you Karen, rather than
> any of these other names?  Well, for one, because that's probably what
> you told them your name was when you introduced yourself!  "Liz" is
> no more my name than "Robert" is yours.
> 
> 			 --Elizabeth Sullivan Maureen Abrams,
> 			   thank you VERY much.
> 
> diamond@acpub.duke.edu |   The soul may choose its own society and shut
> Elizabeth S. Abrams    |   the door, but the body gets thrown into bed
> 		       |   with the damnedest people.  --Peter Beagle
	
Interesting thread......I have a friend who prefers to be called Thomas.
Well, as you would guess, after introducing himself as Thomas, some
would inconsiderates would call him Tom. His patented response still
cracks me up. He would look right at them, and in a deadpan voice, say
*don't forget the ass!*. People never made the same mistake twice.

It's interesting to note the effect of people using their more 'formal'
names. A lot of people considered    	Thomas to be stuck up, just
because he insisted on being called Thomas. Have any of you noticed
similar stigmas?

bill (just bill) the cat.......... 
Newsgroups: soc.singles,hsv.general,general
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: Nightline and Presidential Cantidates
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:32:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.220430.10060@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com> lms@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Max Stern 310-524-6152) writes:
>In article <BxnpKy.CyL@access.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov11.194742.3823@microsoft.com> philco@microsoft.com (Phillip Cooper) writes:
>>>                                         Anyway, it is well known that
>>>most newspapers are owned by wealthy republican men (for example, William
>>>Randolph Hearst).
>>
>>Not only has William Randolph Hearst been dead for more than 40 years, but
>>he was a Democrat.  His papers supported William Jennings Bryan in both
>>1896 and 1900, and Hearst himself was a potential Democratic nominee for
>>President in 1904.
>>
>
>I guess Phillip (the original poster) had in mind WRH III, father of
>Patty (Tanya).

Not much better since Patty's father was Randolph A. Hearst.  Her uncle was
named William Randolph Hearst, Jr., though.

>I don't know the politics of WRH III, however.

I don't even know if such a person exists, but I would guess that he would be
a first cousin of Patty's.

A better example of a wealthy, Republican newspaper publisher of recent years
(well, his lifespan overlapped mine) would have been Robert McCormick of
_Chicago Tribune_ fame.

-- Herb Huston
-- huston@access.digex.com
From: tps@jptcs.COM (Tim Sailer)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Money and the Single World (was: Education and the Single World
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:39:03 GMT
Reply-To: tps@jptcs.com
Organization: JPT Computer Solutions, Port Jeff Station, NY
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

trygve lode (tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
: >Ahhh... but, you see, I WOULDN'T do anything like that without total
: >support from my spouse! No strain then!
: 
: Well, it still wouldn't work for me, since I wouldn't like feeling like 
: my spouse would feel like she couldn't do such things without my permission.
: (I'd be happy to have my input and advice solicited, but I'd want it to
: be entirely her decision.)

Well, marriage is a partnership. If you did something like that in business,
you would not be a partner anymore! When it comes to using funds from a 
'partnership' (either one), you'd BETTER discuss it and get support !
If you keep on living separate lives in a common house/bed, good luck!

Again... these are just my opinions... as wrong as they may seem to be.
-- 
Tim Sailer
JPT Computer Solutions - SCO Sales/Consulting/Administration and Mangling
Port Jefferson Station, NY
(516) 331-9001
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: Talking About Politics  (Was: Re: Where to meet women?)
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:40:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.012031.10695@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) writes:
>In article <BxnnyJ.CnA@access.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>>In article <JULIE.92Nov8222440@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu> julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright) writes:
>>>
>>>                 Arguing politics is great fun.
>>
>>No, it's not!
>
>     Sure, arguing and talking about politics is fun!!

No, it's not!

(Please let me know when you begin to feel your tibia separating from your
knee.)

-- Herb Huston
-- huston@access.digex.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ac@cheshire.oxy.edu (Aileen Cho)
Subject: Re: Brooding Artist Types
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:29:20 GMT


 ...Attracted to Brooding Artist types?
    Yes!  Yes!  Yes!
    (and it has gotten me nothing but grief, so far.)
                                                    --ac

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From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Why do women
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 23:00:59 GMT

In article <By673D.D97@access.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>
>However, a woman could realize that the man building those big muscles may
>be too preoccupied with the body he sees in the mirror to tend to the needs
>of *her* body.  According to surveys, many have.

Fortunately, not all of them believe this--some of them realize that the 
time he spends focusing on how his body feels and works and how to control
his body can greatly aid in breaking through the false mind/body dichotomy
our culture tends to inculcate us with and teach him how to read and
respond to his own body and others.  (And, of course, there's the other
advantage that strength and endurance make your life easier.)

Trygve   (And, failing that, you can be entertained by the strange 
          expressions and noises we make while under the iron.) 
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From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: why can't men dance together and just be friends?? why must they allways ask some asshole woman ??
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:01:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.165434.26685@julian.uwo.ca>, jdnicoll@prism.ccs.uwo.ca (James Davis Nicoll) writes:
> 
> 	It's part of The International  Women's Conspiracy.  They  were
> hoping  you  wouldn't notice,  but now They'll  probably   hire someone
> to marry you, who will pour lighter  fluid all  over you and then  set
> fire  to  you. I  must  know a dozen guys that's happened to.
> 
> 
> 							James  Nicoll


But, you didn't answer the most important question.  Did they enjoy it?  :)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: nancyw@panix.com (Nancy Weiner)
Subject: finding a soulmate
Summary: how do you find someone you can really conncet with
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:01:28 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

I am new here..second day or so ..so please forgive the format. Not sure I'm
doing this right. 
   Wondering here how many people can really talk to who they are dating..and is that a criteria you use?   for me someone could be purple and green for all
I care if I can really talk to them.
   tired of meeting conventional guys who clam up all the time..so, is being
able to tell anything to your s.o something other people look for?

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: wtr@mitre.org (Bill Ralston)
Subject: Re: Argh! Total, Complete misery.
Followup-To: soc.singles
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:20:28 GMT

In article <some-such-thing> somebody wrote (the attribution appearing to
have been mangled):
>
>My problem is what to tie _to, as the nomadic lifestyle doesn't include
>four-posted heavy-framed pickled-oak beds.  I'm thinking of running
>carriage bolts through the floor but don't know that mon cher landlord
>will understand.

In article <1992Nov13.221808.3413@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu
(trygve lode) replies:
>
> Well, you can always stain a couple of two-by-eights and attach them to
> a few sheets of plywood, making a waterbed frame--not too much less
> nomadic than a futon, but much easier to sink eye-bolts into.
> 
> Trygve   (Or pick up one of the many waterbed frames that show up at
>           garage sales where people pretty much just want them hauled
>           off--and then donate it to someone else next time the urge
>           to peregrinate overcomes you.) 

I recently saw an advertisement for some velcro-like anchors that could be
placed on the sheets and easily pulled up and moved to change positions.
Sounds like an ideal solution, completely compatible with the nomadic
lifestyle.  They also come with some handy quick release snaps as well.  I
could probably dig up the advertisement if anyone was interested...

-- Bill wtr@mitre.org
* If my employer knew what I was posting, I'd probaby be unemployed *
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: What do you Am men think about Am wome
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:06:24 GMT

In article <92321.195239SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>, Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
> Not that I'm an expert or anything, but the idea of 'sexual peak'
> statistics aplying to individuals is pretty silly.  It doesn't

I have to agree with this completely. Each person is different and so each
persons sexual peak would be different.  I know this because I have researched
my family history and one of my ancestors had his eighteenth child when he
was 88.  I doubt I'll be able to move at the age of 88, much less sire children.

> 
> Graydon

Larry Billings
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:40:46 EST
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Suggestions needed....

Sweet Mother Freya...

You seem to be hitting a case of someone being some mix of scared out
of their mind at intimacy that's physical/sexual/carnal, and very
concerned to behave in a way that allows them to continue to believe
that they are being a good catholic.  (diagnosis modulo being filtered
through your brain, my brain, and the net.)

The first part probably relates to the second - if he can't marry you,
he can't have sexual thoughts about you, it wouldn't be 'right'.
So what I would sugguest is to find your local theoretical theologian
(there's at least one in any diocese office/cathedral) and explain
your situation to them.  (I'm assuming that you want to marry this
guy?)  Anyway, this person might well be able to produce a mechanism
to continue being a good catholic and still get married.

The other thing to hope for is that this fellow's world view will
undergo change as he matures.  Five years later, I am embarrassed
to remember how stupid I was when I was 21.  The question is if
the world view will change in your favour, really - it's going to
change somehow.

Have you tried kissing him with passion?  Might ratchet up the
honesty level on the subject in question.

Graydon
From: martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Nightline and Presidential Cantidates
Date: 20 Nov 92 01:22:03 GMT
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: bednarek@picard.med.ge.com's message of 19 Nov 92 08:09:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.080921.10505@mr.med.ge.com> bednarek@picard.med.ge.com (Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971) writes:


   Well back on to the general subject of the economy.

Let's not and say we did.
--
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     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Organization: QQQCLC
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:07:59 GMT

In article <JMD.92Nov17135431@lion.bear.com> jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) writes:
>FLAME MODE ON!

	Circle the wagons, Mabel, they're on the warpath!

>About the investment industry, Kayembee, where do you think the
>company you work for got the capital to start up?  Or if you work at a
>research institution, think about where a lot of your research money
>comes from.  Right.  Corporate america.  The corporations which sell
>bonds (in other words, borrow money) from investment banks such as the
>one I work for.  The things we do here help to make the things you do
>possible.  

	Think again, corporate weasel! My salary comes (indirectly) from
the gummint, and they make their money the old-fashioned way - they
steal it from hard-working taxpayers :-).

>Finally, about respect, every living thing is due respect.

	Even maggots? Viruses?

						Kayembee
From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What do you Am men think about Am women?
Date: 18 Nov 1992 18:56:16 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <MARTINC.92Nov17160134@hatteras.cs.unc.edu>, martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
> In article <25766@sybase.sybase.com> mysti@sybase.com (Mysti) writes:
> 
>    Important point #2: In writing seminars, I have frequently been told
>    that men often write these stories and pseudonymify with women's
>    names.
> 
> You have a source for that?  I've heard exactly the opposite at writing
> seminars etc.  I know a number of such writers and aspiring writers, and
> they're uniformly women.  I don't hink I believe you.

She's right, but I think it's outdated.  In the 70's and early 80's
the bodice ripper really came into a big market share, and a lot of
publishing companies jumped on the bandwagon.  They didn't have female
authors in house, and this is before the genre really got established
as a genre (before that it was all the sweetsie Harlequin and Regency
stuff) so they weren't getting many unsolicited manuscripts.  So they
solicited stuff from authors that they knew, who were mostly male.  It's
sort of like the SF scene at the start of WWII, when the publishers went
hunting up western writers because SF started to sell better than westerns.
So they hit the market with lots of absolute bilge based mostly on some
guy's wish-fulfillment misunderstanding of female fantasy (sex is never
the heroine's "fault" because then she wouldn't be a good girl, hence
all these silly quasi-rape scenes) and then women started getting into
it.  With the result of slightly better quasi-rape scenes, so one's IQ
is lowered 10 points instead of 50 for every one that you read.*  But if
you pick up a bodice ripper written in the 70's and look at the copyright
statement, you're very likely to find a man's name on it.  It's not so
likely any more.

*Luckily, my IQ was fabulously high to begin with, so I'm still able to
eke out an existance as a frequent soc.singles poster.

Dawn

Joseph Campbell gave me hope and now I have been saved.
"Folk Song" by Bongwater
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: owning a business and meeting motas (Re: What is attractive to women?)
Date: 21 Nov 92 12:23:40 GMT
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.

In article <1992Nov20.191851.7457@julian.uwo.ca> jdnicoll@prism.ccs.uwo.ca (James Davis Nicoll) writes:
>
>	Am I the only small businessman who finds the  time involved
>in keeping a business running (60+ hrs/week) a serious handicap in
>the mating  game? I'm lucky: my sweetie's work/school  hours are as
>bad and consume the same time as my work does, but my lifestyle certainly
>curtailed forgaging-for-motas time, and I could see that for others less
>lucky than I could find work-time causing serious stress in a relationship.

Well, at a size 52L, I'm not sure if I qualify as a small businessman, but
I have found running businesses to come with both advantages and disadvantages
as far as the mating game is concerned.  On the down side, working from home
and dealing largely with engineers in other parts of the world, I find that
it offers very few possibilities of meeting MOTAS.  On the other hand, I have
things structured so that I have far more freedom in setting my own schedule
that is normally afforded by conventional employment--as long as I get a
reasonable amount of stuff done, there's no reason I can't take a day or
six off at a moment's whim, which does come in handy. 

As far as for when one is already in a relationship, at least one that 
hasn't progressed to the 'living together' stage, the greater flexibility
compensates for the extra hours; however, I suspect that the problems with
working more hours would increase if one was living with one's romantic
partner.

Trygve   
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: Unattached Ph.D.'s (was:Re: Education and the Single World
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:20:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.122314.19757@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, allisson@turing.toronto.edu (H. Allisson Roome) writes:
|> I was born,
|> raised, and spent all but the last 9 years of my life on Long Island
|> and I couldn't give a flying ^*#! about Oogs truck -- I also escaped
|> the accent.

Really?!  How did you manage that, I wonder. I know people that go there
for a week and they come back sounding like they've been there all their
life.

And this Oog fellow...who the hell is Oog, anyway, and what kind of truck
does he drive?

jds

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