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From: thiguchi@steinberger.japan.sun.com (T.Higuchi-NSun Software L10N mgr)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: CFD: fj.comp.announce
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:12:00 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Nihon Sun Microsystems K.K. (KSP)

In article <1463@ihitgw.ihitsy.ihi.co.jp>
 alceste@moliere.ihitsy.ihi.co.jp (Shiino Masayoshi) writes:
>In article <KANEKO.92Jul20190144@axiom.icsi.Berkeley>
> kaneko@icsi.Berkeley.EDU (Seiji Kaneko) writes:
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From: ogata@etl.go.jp (Ichiro Ogata)
Subject: Re: Objection [CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan]
Organization: Electrotechnical Lab.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:57:21 GMT

In article <1365@cbsws1.cbs.canon.co.jp> hatano@cbs.canon.co.jp
(Manami Hatano) writes:

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From: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Cultural Sensibility - CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan [English+Japanese]
Date: 29 Jul 92 04:57:51 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Matsushita Electric Works Ltd., Tokyo, Japan.


Cultural sensibility$@$H$O!#(J
What is Cultural Sensibility

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I think there are some people forgetting the concept of "Cultural
Sensibility" in the debate about fj.life.in-japan. I think any person
who had the experience to be a minority group had this experience,
but sometimes the "Majority" group tries to impose its values, thoughts
etc. on the minority. I call it a kind of "Violence by Majority group".

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I have heard many times in the debate about fj.life.in-japan people
saying: "I want this kind of article", "I want this kind of attitude",
"I want the articles to be written in such language", etc. I respect
any opinion, but don't you think fj.life.in-japan must be a place
where people with values, thoughts different from the japanese can
change opinions, etc? Don't you think those persons must be left free
to decide their own direction? Would be a really wonderful experiment
and very interesting for many persons?


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                     (1st. amendment, USA Constitution)


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Phone: +81-3-3452-4941	FAX: +81-3-3451-0793  Home:(044) 549-4913
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From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: REPORT rev.3 on gaikokujin group (in English+Japanese)
Date: 20 Jul 92 21:33:55 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

markd@csl.sj.nec.com (Mark Dyer) writes:

>In article <1992Jul20.040334.17268@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp> kuno@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp (Yasushi Kuno) writes:

>   santos@mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp (Rafael &) writes:
>   : I am sure that we will have YES > NO, but worried about how many people will
>   : vote for the YES. Is there a low-limit ?

>   davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
>   > Not as far as I know (but somebody please say so if there is).

>       As I've said somewhere, I'd like to follow the "News Gropu
>   Management Protocol" now revision G, being proposed by Mr. Kono, and
>   it states that number of YES vote should not be less than 50 (yes,
>   fifty).  Do you think it too difficult?

>Can we vote twice? :-) Or get all our friends and relatives to vote? :-)

Just to make sure there aren't any more surprises (I didn't know
about revision G), what are the qualifications for voting. And
how do you vote, excatly?

Thanks,

Dave

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From: jiro@math.keio.ac.jp (TANAKA Jiro)
Subject: Re: Tongue-twisters: was Re: NG for gaijin topics. (English)
Reply-To: jiro@math.keio.ac.jp
Organization: Faculty of Sci. and Tech., Keio Univ., Yokohama, Japan.
	<JIRO.92Jul21193531@jade.math.keio.ac.jp>
	<ISHIKAWA.92Jul22185621@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp>
Distribution: fj
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 04:02:18 GMT

In article <ISHIKAWA.92Jul22185621@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp>
	ishikawa@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp (Chiaki Ishikawa) writes:

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From: maeda@icot.or.JP (MAEDA -planaria- Shigeru)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: [CFACFD] correction of charter(1)
Date: 21 Jul 92 10:02:03 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: ICOT 7th Laboratory


In article <KANEKO.92Jul16182558@axiom.icsi.Berkeley> 
	kaneko@icsi.Berkeley.EDU (Seiji Kaneko) writes:

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From: kaneko@icsi.Berkeley.EDU (Seiji Kaneko)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: Objection [CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan] [Japanese+English]
Date: 30 Jul 92 11:25:07
Organization: International Computer Science Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: axiom.icsi.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: tozaki@math.keio.ac.jp's message of Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:03:34 GMT

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>>>>> On Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:03:34 GMT, tozaki@math.keio.ac.jp (Hidekazu TOZAKI) said:
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From: ohata@kisi.kao.co.jp (Koichi OHATA)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Objection: CFV fj.life.in-japan [English+Japanese]
Date: 31 Jul 92 09:52:47 GMT
Organization: Kao Corporation, Tokyo JAPAN
In-reply-to: kuno@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp's message of 29 Jul 92 06:54:56 GMT

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In article <1992Jul29.065456.19592@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp> kuno@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp (Yasushi Kuno) writes:
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From: furuta@srarc2.sra.CO.JP (Atsushi Furuta)
Subject: Re: Proposal: New newsgroup - fj.sys.announce
	<FURUTA.92Jul20103349@srarc2.sra.CO.JP>
	<1992Jul20.102159.15157@nntp.csl.sony.co.jp>
Organization: Software Research Associates, Inc., Japan
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:57:14 GMT


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In article <1992Jul20.102159.15157@nntp.csl.sony.co.jp>
  kono@csl.sony.co.jp (Shinji Kono) writes:

>> In article <1992Jul20.081013.6720@iris.is.tsukuba.ac.jp> , 
>> 	yas@softlab.is.tsukuba.ac.jp (Yasushi Shinjo) writes 
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>> From: furuta@srarc2.sra.CO.JP (Atsushi Furuta)
>> Message-ID: <FURUTA.92Jul20103349@srarc2.sra.CO.JP>
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>> $B$G$7$g!"$A$g$C$H@bF@NO$K7g$1$k$H;W(B$B$&!#(B

  $B$=$l$O!"<B@S$r<($;!"$H8@$&$3$H$G$7$g$&$+!)(B $B%]%9%H$,$J$$$+$i$H(B$B8@$C$F!"(B
$B8=<B$KLdBj$K$J$C$F$$$J$$$H$O!"8@$($J$$$H;W$$$^$9!#(B 
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furuta@sra.co.jp ($B8EEDFX(B)                    $B#S#R#A@hC<5;=Q3+H/It(B
From: kuno@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp (Yasushi Kuno)
Subject: Re: Objection [CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan] [Japanese+English]
Organization: GSSM Otsuka, Univ. of TSUKUBA, Tokyo, Japan
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 06:27:46 GMT

$B5WLn$G$9!#K]LuO@5D$OJL$H$7$F!#(J

hatano@cbs.canon.co.jp (Manami Hatano) writes:
> $B$I$&$$$&4p=`$G!V$[$H$s$I!W$J$N$+$o$+$i$J$$!#!V$=$&$$$&>l9g$b$"$k!W(J
> $B$/$i$$$N$b$N$G$O$J$$$N$G$7$g$&$+!#F|K\8l$GEj9F$7$F$bH?1~$N$J$$5-;v(J
> $B$@$C$F$"$j$^$9$h$M!#(J

  $B$=$&$G$9$M!";d$,!V$=$&$G$O$J$$$H;W$C$F$$$?!W$@$1$G!";XE&$5$l$k(J
$B$H<+J,$G$O$=$&$$$&<BNc$r(J1$B8D$/$i$$$7$+8+J9$7$F$$$J$$$+$i2?$H$b8@(J
$B$($J$$$3$H$K5$$,$D$-$^$7$?!#(J

: $B$=$&$$$&<B83$r$r(Jfj.misc$B$GB3$1$k$N$O$h$/$J$$$G$7$g$&$+$i!"(J

> $BC/$+!V$h$/$J$$!W$C$F8@$$$^$7$?(J?$B$o$?$7$OFI$s$@3P$($,$J$$!#$o$6$o$6(J
> $B?7$7$$(JNG$B$r0l8D$D$/$k$[$I$N$b$N$G$O$J$$$G$7$g$&!#%/%m%9%]%9%H$7$F$_(J
> $B$F$=$C$A$N(JNG$B$G<u$1F~$l$i$l$?$i!":G=*E*$K$O(J fj.life.in-japan(?) $B$O(J
> $B$$$i$J$/$J$k$s$G$7$g(J?

  $B;d$,!V(Jfj.misc$B$OB>$NL\E*$K$b;H$o$l$k$m$&$+$i!"$^$6$C$F$$$k$N$O(J
$B$h$/$J$$$@$m$&!W$H;W$C$?$s$G$9!#$=$&$$$&0UL#$G$9!#$7$+$7$J$,$i!"(J
$B$O$?$N$5$s$N(Jfj.misc$B$HB>$N%0%k!<%W$N%/%m%9%]%9%H$G$:!<$C$H$d$C$F(J
$B$_$?$i!"$H$$$&$40U8+$b3N$+$K0lM}$"$k$H;W$$$^$7$?!#$O$$!#(J

> $BC/$b$^$@!V<u$1F~$l$i$l$k$+$I$&$+!W;n$7$F$_$F$J$$$N$K!"$J$<(JNG$B:n@.$r(J
> $B5^$0$N$+M}2r$K6l$7$_$^$9!#!V<u$1F~$l$i$l$J$+$C$?!W<B@S$C$F$$$&$N$,(J
> $B$"$k$N$+$J!#$"$k$J$i<($7$F2<$5$l$P$b$&>/$7OC$,4JC1$K$J$k$H;W$&!#(J

  $B$=$&$G$9$M!";d$O!V4{$K;n$7$?J}$,$$$i$C$7$c$k$@$m$&!W$H46$8$?$N(J
$B$G$9$,!"8=$K$=$&$$$&J}$,$$$i$C$7$c$k$+$I$&$+$O3N$+$KJ,$+$j$^$;$s!#(J
$B$=$&$$$&7P83$"$kJ}$N>Z8@$rBT$A$?$$$G$9!#(J

> fj.misc $B$H%/%m%9%]%9%H$G$b9=$o$J$$$+$i<B83$7$F$_$F$$$$$8$c$J$$(J
> $B$G$9$+!#!J!V$G$F$$$1!W$H8@$C$F$k?M$bKX$I$$$J$$$H$*$b$&$1$I!#!K(J

  $B$O$$!#Ls(J1$BL>(J :-) $B$/$i$$$G$7$g$&$+!#$H$b$+$/!#$O$?$N$5$s$N(J
$B!V(Jfj.misc$B$G<B83$rB3$1$?$i!W$H$$$&$N$,$$$$$3$H$+$I$&$+B>$NJ}$N$4(J
$B0U8+$r;G$$$?$$$G$9$M!#(J

							    $B5WLn(J

------ Summary in English -------

In summary, I understood that possiblity of the following method
can be considered:

  1) Use fj.misc as a "place for gaikokujin-posts" forever, or
     for some time.
  2) If each of topics there has other "appropriate" fj groups,
     then also crosspost to that group.
  3) Finally, already existing fj groups might be sufficient to
     ALL of the topics, so new group might not be needed after all.
     Or it might not be so after all, then we proceed to
     creating a new group.

How do others think about this senario?  (I myself do not feel
this very desirable, but let's hear other's opinion.)

							Yasushi Kuno
Xref: sparky fj.news.group:2546 fj.rec.bikes:1936 fj.rec.sports:1146
From: kono@csl.sony.co.jp (Shinji Kono)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: [CFD/CFA] mvgrp fj.lang => fj.comp.lang
Date: 23 Jul 92 12:01:36 GMT
Reply-To: kono@csl.sony.co.jp
Organization: Sony Computer Science Laboratory, Inc.

$@2OLn(J@CSL.Sony$@$G$9!#(J
In article <1992Jul20.135435.10625@iris.is.tsukuba.ac.jp> , 
	yas@softlab.is.tsukuba.ac.jp (Yasushi Shinjo) writes 
>fj.lang $@$r(J fj.comp.lang $@$KL>A0$rJQ$($k$3$H$rDs0F$7$^$9!#(J

$@;?@.$7$^$9!#<j=g$b$"$s$J$b$N$G$$$$$H;W$$$^$9!#(J
---
Shinji Kono @           kono@csl.sony.co.jp
Sony Computer Science Laboratory, Inc,Japan
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
From: nao@jaist-east.ac.jp (Naoki HAMADA)
Subject: Re: CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan [Japanese]
Reply-To: nao@jaist-east.ac.jp
Organization: ME
	<NAO.92Jul27111222@mimo.jaist-east.ac.jp>
	<TSS.92Jul27191653@kikori89.uf.a.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 04:50:06 GMT

In article <TSS.92Jul27191653@kikori89.uf.a.u-tokyo.ac.jp> 
$@$5$5$Y$5$s(J:
>  $@:G=i$+$i%/%m%9%]%9%H(J$@$,A0Ds$K$J$k$h$&$J%K%e!<%9%0%k!<%W$,I,MW$H$O$H$F(J
>$@$b;W$($J$$$N$G$9$,!)(J

  $@!V309q?M!W8GM-$NOCBj$K$D$$$F(J$@$OJL$K%/%m%9%]%9%H$9$kI,MW$O$J$$$H;W$&$s(J
$@$G$9$h!#$?$H$($PF|K\$K309q?M$H$7$FF~=P9q$9$k>l9g$NOC$H$+!#(J

  $@$?$@!"$3$&$$$&OCBj$O$"$^$jA[Dj$5$l$F$$$J$$$N$,5$$,$+$j$G$O$"$j$^$9$,!#(J

  $@$"$H:{It$5$s$,$$$_$8$/$b;X(J$@E&$J$5$C$F$$$k$h$&$K!"1Q8l0J30$NF|K\8l$G$J(J
$@$$8@8l$r$I$&<h$j07$&$+$H$$$&;v9`$K$D$$$FA4$/8!F$$5$l$F$$$J(J$@$$$N$OIT;W5D(J
$@$K;W$$$^$9!#$_$J$5$s$I$N$h$&$K$*9M$($G$7$g$&!#(J

$@IMED(J $@D><y(J
From: hoshi@sras31.sra.co.jp (Hoshi Takanori)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: Objection CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan [Japanese]
Date: 29 Jul 92 11:22:08 GMT
        <381@dbsftgw.db-soft.co.jp>
        <1992Jul29.053813.18482@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp>
        <1992Jul29.060756.18795@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp>
        <395@dbsftgw.db-soft.co.jp>
Distribution: fj
Organization: Software Research Associates, Inc.,Japan
In-reply-to: sakai@db-soft.co.jp's message of 29 Jul 92 10:14:03 GMT

$B$[$7!w$($9$"!<$k$(!<$G$9!#(B

In article <395@dbsftgw.db-soft.co.jp>
         sakai@db-soft.co.jp (SAKAI Nobuhiro) writes:

>   $B;d$H$7$F$O!"%^%$%J!<!?%a%8%c!<$rLd$o$:!"%3%_%e%K%F%#$K#N#G(B
> $B$rDs6!$9$k$N$,H?BP$J$N$G!"%^%$%J!<$@$,I,MW$JOCBj$KBP$7$F#N#G(B
> $B$rDs6!$9$k$3$H$KBP$7$FH?BP$7$F$$$kLu$G(B$B$O$"$j$^$;$s!#(B

$B$=$l$G$O<ALd$G$9$,!"(Bfj $B$H$$$&$N$O(B (comp $B$d(B alt $B$HHf$Y$?;~$K(B)
$B0lBN$I$&$$$&!vOCBj!v$r4p(B$B=`$K$7$F:n$i$l$?%I%a%$%s$J$N$G$7$g$&$+!)(B

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$B!t!t(B fj $B$OF|K\?M$,AO$j!"0i$F$F$-$?$b$N$G$"$k$+$i!"309q?M$N(B
$B!t!t(B $B$?$a$KDs6!$9$k$J$s$F$1$7$+$i$s(B$B!"$H;W$C$F$$$k$N$J$i(B
$B!t!t(B $B$O$C$-$j$=$&8@$C$FM_$7$$$b$N$G$9!#(B


> $B!t$3$l$O!";d$N>!<j$J2r<a$G$7$g$&$1$I(B$B!"(Bfj.org.* $B$@$C$F!"(B* $B$K(B
> $B!t4X$9$kOCBj$N0Y$N#N#G$@$H;W$C$F$$$^$9!#(B

$B$G$9$+$i!"(Bfj.life.in-japan $B$H$$$&(B$B$N$O!"$"$/$^$G(B
$B!V309q?M$,F|K\$G@83h$9$k>e$G$NLdBjE@!W$H$$$&!vOCBj!v(B
$B$N0Y$N#N#G$G$9!#(B

---
$B$[$7(B
From: smitimko@srcwsd.src.sony.co.jp (Shin MICHIMUKO)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: [2nd CFD] fj.rec.travel.misc
Date: 22 Jul 92 10:42:55 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Sony Corporation, Research Center, Yokohama, Japan.

$B!!(Jfj.rec.travel$B$N$=$N8e$K$D$$$F!#(J

In article <2667@tansei1.tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp> hideo@tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (KANNO Hideo) writes:
>>fj.rec.travel$B4X78<T0J30$+$i!"?F%/%i%9;?@.$,=P$F$$$k798~$O$"$j$^$9$M!#(J

$B!!;d$J$I$O$=$N:G$?$k$b$N$@$H;W$$$^$9!#$*$=$i$/!"(Jfj.rec.travel$B$G$N5DO@$r(J
$BB:=E$7$F$$$J$$$h$&$K<h$i$l$F$$$k$3$H$H;W$$$^$9$,!"<B:]$K(Jfj.rec.travel$B$O(J
$B$[$H$s$IFI$s$G$$$J$+$C$?$N$G$9!J:G6a$O>/$7FI$_$^$7$?!K!#:G=i$K$b$C$H?F%/(J
$B%i%9J}<0$r6/$/<gD%$7$F$$$l$P!"(Jfj.rec.travel$B$+$i(Jmisc$B$,Ds0F$5$l$F$/$k$3$H(J
$B$b$J$+$C$?$G$7$g$&!#$=$NE@$G!"5DO@;22C$,CY$l$?$3$H$O?=$7Lu$4$6$$$^$;$s!#(J

>$B$H$K$+$/!"2?$+$40U8+$*BT$A$7$F$^$9!#(J
>$B;d$K$b$I$&$7$?$i$$$$$+$o$+$j$^$;$s!#(J

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$B$j$,$J$$$N$J$i$P@.$jN)$?$J$$5DO@$G$O$"$j$^$9$,!#(J
==smitimko@src.sony.co.jp=======================Freedom is Everything!==
$@!!F;8~(J  $@?7!J(JMICHIMUKO, Shin$@!K%=%K!<!J3t!KCf1{8&5f=j8&5f4k2hIt8&5f>pJs<<(J
==Age:24 year-old==Blood:O==Sex:Male==Bike:XT600TENERE==Ham:7N1QNC======
From: lao@zoo.ncl.omron.co.jp (LAO Shihong)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: Multi-lingual articles
Date: 30 Jul 92 10:58:46 GMT
	<NAO.92Jul29174848@mimo.jaist-east.ac.jp>
	<TSS.92Jul29221520@kikori89.uf.a.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
	<1992Jul29.154228.13311@etl.go.jp>
Organization: OMRON Co., Kyoto, 617 Japan.
In-reply-to: ogata@etl.go.jp's message of 29 Jul 92 15:42:28 GMT


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----$@R)@$(J\hong
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
From: tozaki@math.keio.ac.jp (Hidekazu TOZAKI)
Subject: Re: Objection [CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan] [Japanese+English]
Organization: Faculty of Sci. and Tech., Keio Univ., Yokohama, Japan.
	<1992Jul26.023048.14628@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp>
	<1992Jul26.030126.14810@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp>
	<1359@cbsws1.cbs.canon.co.jp>
	<1992Jul28.062746.8095@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp>
	<CLAUDE.92Jul28185346@tokyo.trc.mew.mei.co.jp> <7pn.bprvs@lab.ntt.jp>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:03:34 GMT

In article <TOSHI.92Jul30235002@ibis.nml.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> toshi@nml.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Toshio HORI) writes:
 |$@!X(Jfj $@$G30(J$@9q8l$NEj9F$r$[$H$s$I8+$?$3$H$,$J$$!Y$H$$$&$N$O$"$/$^$G$b8D?M(J
 |$@$N9XFI%K%e!<%9!&%0%k!<%W$K$h$k$N$G$"$C(J$@$F!"$=$l$r!XL5$+$C$?!Y$J$I$H7kO@(J
 |$@$E$1$F$7$^$&$N$O%d%P%$$H;W$&$J!#(J

  $@$3$l$O$=$&$G$9$,!":{It$5$s$N0U(J$@8+$NMWE@$O!"(J

In article <TSS.92Jul29174905@kikori89.uf.a.u-tokyo.ac.jp> tss@a.u-tokyo.ac.jp (SASABE Tetsuro) writes:
 |  $@7+$jJV$7$^$9$,!";d$O$=$b$=$b(J fj $@$G$N309q8l$NEj9F$r$[$H$s$I8+$?$3$H$,(J
 |$@$"$j$^$;$s(J$@!#L5$+$C$?$b$N$r!V5$$K$H$a$J$+$C$?!W$H>!<j$K8@$$JQ$($J$$$G$/(J
 |$@$@$5$$!#(J                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  $@$3$3$G$9$h!#;d$dH`$OKL@n$5$s$N(J

In article <7pn.bprvs@lab.ntt.jp> kitagawa@will.ntt.jp (Masahiro Kitagawa) writes:
 |                                            fj.misc $@0J30$N(JNG$@$K1Q8l$N5-(J
 |$@;v$rEj9F$7$F$b$[$H$s$IFI$^$l$J$$$+H?1~$,$J$$8=>u(J

$@$3$NItJ,$,;v<B8mG'$G$O$J$$$+$Hd}$7$F(J$@$$$k$N$G$9$h!#(J

  $@$5$F!";d$b(J fj.rec.basketball $@$OFI$s$G$$$^$;$s$,!"KY$5$s$NEj9F$O1Q8l(J
$@$NEj9F$,FI$^$l$F(J$@$$$?$3$H$r<($90lNc$G$9$h$M!#(J> $@$+$M$3$5$s(J

P.S. 31$@F|$N8a8e$^$G%"%/%;%9$G$-$k;~4V$,?-$S$^$7$?!#(J
--
Hidekazu TOZAKI
Faculty of Science and Technology, Keio University, Yokohama, Japan.
E-mail: tozaki@nak.math.keio.ac.jp