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Subject: Re: M1, M4, M5, M6 & M25 - How long are they? 
Distribution: world
Organization: Kells Consultancy
Reply-To: geoffl@kells.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:32:13 +0000

In article <1k0hibINNmfk@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> smckinty@sunicnc.France.Sun.COM writes:

>Are you sure? I find that hard to believe, it would be incredibly stupid
>to require someone to drive at twice the speedlimit for an hour, on a
>road that in places is carrying twice its intended amount of traffic. Even
>with blue lights & siren going.

Fairly sure.  I believe they do at about 4/5am when there's only a few
cars every mile.  I suppose it makes sense, since these guys have to
do the same speed during the day if there's an emergency.

-- 
      Geoff Landergan                         geoffl@kells.demon.co.uk
      Mitcham, Surrey, UK
      +44 81 646 2605
From: haverkam@uni-duesseldorf.de (Wilhelm Haverkamp)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Irish Newsgroups?
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 07:45:32 GMT
Organization: Universitaetsrechenzentrum, Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet Duesseldorf
NNTP-Posting-Host: haverkamp.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de

Does anybody know if Irish newsgroups exist?
Please email to me directly.
Regards Wilhelm
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: rdavis@convex.com (Ray Davis)
Subject: Re: US as No. 1 (3 data books)
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:19:17 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

smackie@regal.cisco.com (Scott Mackie) writes:

>Ignoring the xenophobia (putting developed in quotes is the clue), I wonder if
>you've actually ever *travelled* anywhere outside the US?
>[...]
>Oh, and quoting cheap land and tax rates is misleading. Especially here in
>California.

Pfffft.. Do you have any farging idea how much it costs to rent
a small apartment in any major European metropolis?  You could
have a reasonable place in Marin for the same or less.  And to
compound the problem, it is often most impossible to find something
you're willing to even live in.

>Having seen what the US media shows you of the rest of the world, Brent, I
>suggest you get out into it and see it for yourself.

Visiting doesn't count - you have to live there for a few years
to get an objective impression.

>Cisco Systems Inc,             Paper   : (415) 688 8282

Say "Hi!" to Frank for me (Marshall).

Ray
From: ses@sunSITE.unc.edu (Simon Spero)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Charles's DNA tested to prove not illigitimate
Date: 24 Jan 93 21:31:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: samba.1993Jan24.213146.28193
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

In article <C1CupJ.2BJ@newcastle.ac.uk> w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk writes:
>billion pound tax free (well so far anyway) inheritence and he gets
>to have his face on all the stamps and all the notes and coins 
>produced by UK plc.


I wonder if the Charles banknotes will have little  strings attached to them;
he might even have a new coat of arms designed. Two cell-phones, crossed on
a tampon rampant.

One thought, which is now a little out of date- since Chuckie Egg is the 
designated succesor to the head of state, doesn't that make him the royal
equivalent of the late Dan Quayle?

Simon
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From: jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim Reid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Northern Ireland again (was Re: Britain and HK)
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:56:13 GMT
	<1993Jan20.145711.22462@infodev.cam.ac.uk>
	<1993Jan21.123713.12656@dcs.qmw.ac.uk>
	<1jm98hINNpas@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM>
	<1993Jan21.171551.27183@infodev.cam.ac.uk>
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.
In-reply-to: gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk's message of 21 Jan 93 17:15:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.171551.27183@infodev.cam.ac.uk> gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry) writes:

   Of course, the sensible solution to this would be to bring in PR for
   Westminster elections in NI (like all other elections).  Presumably
   no Government has so far done this because it would make the case
   for PR throughout the rest of the UK virtually unanswerable.

But Northern Ireland already uses proportional representation to elect
its Euro-MPs! This fact hasn't been at the forefront of the arguments
used by those campaigning for electoral reform.

		Jim
From: smckinty@sunicnc.France.Sun.COM (Steve McKinty - Sun ICNC)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: re: British Sitcoms, etc.
Date: 26 Jan 1993 15:08:33 GMT
Organization: SunConnect
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.france.sun.com

In article <1993Jan26.134819.7595@infodev.cam.ac.uk>, Malcolm Binns			 writes:

> 
> Felicity Kendall was known as the thinking mans crumpet at the time
> the Good Life was being shown ..... I Think therefore I am.

Much as I prefer Felicity Kendal, I thought that comment was actually
made about Joan Bakewell. I forget who said it though.

Steve


-- 
Steve McKinty
SUN Microsystems ICNC
38240 Meylan, France
email: smckinty@france.sun.com	   BIX: smckinty
From: mmh@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Northen Ireland again (was Re: Britain and HK)
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:01:26 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London, UK.

In article <1993Jan22.114539.7514@infodev.cam.ac.uk> gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk writes:
>I see you're back on form, Matthew -- insulting the entire population
>of Northern Ireland.  Remember that NI only has three MEPs, so it's
>hardly surprising that they elect one official Unionist, one DUP and
>one SDLP.  Presumably Paisley gains votes merely by being better-known
>than the other Unionist candidates.

Well Screaming Lord Sutch is well known in England, but that
doesn't mean he'd top the poll. The fact that in votes freely
cast, someone whom most people would describe as a
"loud-mouthed religious bigot" tops the polls (while the
official Unionist is scarcely less bigotted - does he still sit
with the Neo-Fascists in the Euro-Parliament as he used to?)
indicates that the excuse "well we're all reasonable people
really, but we have such terrible politicians" is a bit thin.
They only have such politicians because when given a choice
that's who they vote for. The usual rule in NI politics is that
to express any sort of moderation or compromise means political
death.
>
>I still see no reason why NI legislation shouldn't be debated
>on the floor of the House just like all other legislation.

Neither do I, and I did not express any disagreement with you
on this point.

Matthew Huntbach
From: ray@philmtl.philips.ca (Ray Dunn)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: london, england
Date: 24 Jan 93 02:11:57 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Not Philips.

In refd article, eac@world.std.com (Eric A Cottrell) writes:
>The finanical section of London, UK is also called "The City". I have 
>several maps that call this section "CITY". I also noticed that regional
>names seem to be London centered, i.e. The North, The West County, etc.

Are you saying that the points of the compass were designed around London's
location?
-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Subject: Re: Northen Ireland again (was Re: Britain and HK)
Reply-To: gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:45:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.111728.12232@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> mmh@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) writes:

>Yes, yes, point taken, but look at the Euro-elections, where in
>NI the transferrable vote is used so the "don't split the vote"
>argument doesn't hold. Who tops the poll? Ian Paisley. I don't
>think we should take very seriously a province which puts such
>a buffoon top of the poll every time.

I see you're back on form, Matthew -- insulting the entire population
of Northern Ireland.  Remember that NI only has three MEPs, so it's
hardly surprising that they elect one official Unionist, one DUP and
one SDLP.  Presumably Paisley gains votes merely by being better-known
than the other Unionist candidates.

>As for the point that NI is excluded from the policy making
>process, well firstly by choosing not to vote for
>Tory/Labour/LibDem politicians, they have excluded themselves.

I still see no reason why NI legislation shouldn't be debated
on the floor of the House just like all other legislation.

>Secondly, in fact they are rather firmly at the heart of the
>policy making process when there's a narrow majority or a
>minority government. The NI MPs make all the difference in
>close votes, and they play it for all it's worth. Remember the
>fun at the end of the Callaghan government, when everything
>depended on Frank Maguire actually turning up only to "abstain
>in person"?

You're talking about politics at the UK level now.  Yes, it
does seem that NI politicians have more influence over what
happens nationally than what happens in their own province.
Don't you think this is rather bizarre?

--
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Computer Laboratory                | Fax: +44 (0)223 334678
New Museums Site, Pembroke Street  | JANET: Guy.Barry@uk.ac.cam.cl 
Cambridge CB2 3QG, England, UK     | Internet: Guy.Barry@cl.cam.ac.uk
From: mmh@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Kingston Polytech
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:04:21 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London, UK.

In article <1k5br7INN3ul@SALMON.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU> yan-dicky@cs.yale.edu (Dicky Yan) writes:
>I was told that the polytechnics in Britain have been renames uinversities.
>
>* My friend went to Kingston Polytech in south London. Does anyone know
>  what is it called now?
>
University of Kingston.

>* What is the practical significance of this change of name?

Jobs for signwriters, printers of headed notepaper etc.

Matthew Huntbach
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: mmh@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach)
Subject: Re: Daily Sport
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London, UK.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:37:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.233116.28767@nuscc.nus.sg> hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg (C R Pennell) writes:
>I'd guess it's only people who don't read the SUn, Sport and whatever who
>take them seriously. They're recreation, fun. I remember a real set-to in
>a warehouse I worked in as a student because one guy described another man
>as "SO stupid you believe what you read in the paper." "no I don't" and
>off came the jackets. They both read the Sun.
>
Yes, to some extent, but there's plenty of evidence that the
slow drip of Tory propaganda mixed up with the "fun" in the Sun
works. At the last election, readership of the Sun was a strong
statistical factor in Tory voting. Someone who read the Sun
was much more likley to vote Tory than someone who was
identical on all other ways but did not. The fact that they
manage to do this while still keeping their readers believing
that they're just in existence for a "bit of fun" indicates
just what a good job the propagandists are doing.

Matthew Huntbach

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From: mfriley@pacman.WPI.EDU (Margaret F Riley)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Back from the UK
Date: 21 Jan 1993 20:33:02 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: pacman.wpi.edu

In article <C181Cn.CAz@dscomsa.desy.de> short@zws016.enet.dec.com () writes:
>
>I went to Boston last month purely with the intention of testing this
>quasi-related phenomenon of women there `really digging your groovy
>accent'. It transpired to be false, unfortunately.
>

You picked the wrong city.   The highest accepted accent in Boston 
is the HAh-vahd accent.  Sorry.   

Next time try Andover, MA.

Margaret



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From: dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Back from the UK
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:43:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: pixel.1993Jan26.194346.22367
Followup-To: soc.culture.british,alt.usage.english
Organization: Morituri Te Salutent, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

David Brooks (dbrooks@osf.org) wrote:
> rdavis@convex.com (Ray Davis) writes:
> | a) *My* parents taught me not to pee on my hands.
> 
> Furthermore, if your pee does contain bacteria, you've got problems that
> won't be solved by access to a washbasin.
>
How soon we forget....the idea is to keep one's problems to oneself...
 
> | b) Doesn't anyone consider it important to wash their hands before using
> | the toilet?
> 
> Engineers?  Bakers?  Kindergarten teachers (think finger paints)?
> Sorry, make that infants teachers.

Speaking as an ex-chemist, I can say that the habit of doing a fore- as well 
as an aft-wash dies hard.  But then as a chymiste one has a pretty good idea of 
what one's hands have been in and what that substance can do.  Mostly 
though, you just wanted to get the silicone grease off your fingers from all 
that glassware assembly.

--
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From: Trevor.Kirby@newcastle.ac.uk (Trevor Kirby)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Back from the UK
Date: 28 Jan 93 08:52:41 GMT
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.


In article <EMCOOP.93Jan26085531@bcars148.bnr.ca>, emcoop@bnr.ca (hume smith) writes:
>In article <rdavis.728007193@connie.de.convex.com> rdavis@convex.com (Ray Davis) writes:
>
>   b) Doesn't anyone consider it important to wash their hands before using
>   the toilet?                                                 ------
>
>arthur dent once did... myself, no.
>--
Try  chopping chillis, then forgetting to wash your hands before going,
it might just change your mind. 
 
 Trev
From: CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CZ94000)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Colonies (was Re: Britain and HK)
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:05:00 GMT
Organization: McGill University

In article <1jp8p2INN1n5@bnsgd245.bnr.co.uk> bocmunro@bnr.co.uk (Bruce Munro) writes:
>In article <1jgi0kINNb0@network.ucsd.edu> fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister) writes:
>>In article <1jerh5INN2q7@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> martin.baines@uk.sun.com writes:
>>>
>>>>* What are the UK colonies left after HK is given back to China?
>>>

several colonies deleted

>>Territory, Montserrat, the Turks and Caicos Islands, Pitcairn
>>Island, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha, and a couple of rocks in the
>>Pacific.
>
>You sure about Pitcairn Island? I thought it was administered by New
>Zealand these days. Talking about Pitcairn, who owns Norfolk Island,
>where many of the mutineers descendents ended up, these days?
>
The National Geographic map of the world (June 1992) shows
Pitcairn as British and Norfolk as Australian.

Tom Box
CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA
From: mscs262@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: reply requested
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:25:26 GMT
Organization: Mankato State University


  This posting is an assignment for a university level computer science class.
We are to receive responses to our postings from countries other than U.S.
If you have a spare moment, please respond to this posting prior to Monday, 25 
January 1993, p.m. (U.S. time zones)  Thank you...
From: sandee@Think.COM (Daan Sandee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Tony Benn to abolish monarchy
Date: 28 Jan 1993 19:42:24 GMT
Organization: TMC
NNTP-Posting-Host: tremor.quake.think.com

In article <1993Jan27.104323.24889@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, daniel@scs.leeds.ac.uk (D N Crow) writes:
|> 
|> 2) The whole point of President Thatcher is that at least we could get rid
|> of her, if we wanted to. What happens if King Charles III goes off his
|> rocker and starts trying to exercise some of the significant dormant powers
|> of the monarchy? There's nothing we can do to get rid of him...

George III was definitely off his rocker and the country survived.
Parliament took away his powers and appointed a Regent. The country then
even survived the Regent, which was a much bigger problem.

The Monarch has very little constitutional power and no real power. 
The US President can always call upon the armed forces and enforce a
dictatorship, a la Noriega. The worst thing the British monarch can do is
refuse to sign acts into law, which would precipitate a crisis. Parliament
would presumably take the necessary steps, like taking away his title and
appointing another king, or regent. They did it in 1688 (encouraged by
show of force by the new king, sure) ; they did it for George III ; 
they would have done something in 1936 if the king had resisted ; and
they presumably will do something similar when the need arises again. 

Daan Sandee                                           sandee@think.com
Thinking Machines Corporation
1010 El Camino Real, Suite 310
Menlo Park, CA 94025                                  (415) 329-9300
From: cbenson@bazooka.amb.org (Christopher Benson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: British computer companies
Keywords: british computers
Date: 27 Jan 93 06:42:45 GMT
Organization: AMB Research Labs, Sunnyvale, CA

In order to refute a claim of a co-worker here in California, I
would like a quick list of British computer (hardware, complete
systems) manufacturers. This does not have to be complete, but
lets start with ICL.  I would like a few more names please.

With thanks, Chris Benson
email or postings are fine.  I am not sure of my email address now,
but the heading should be correct.
From: wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Different Newspapers ...
Date: 23 Jan 93 12:59:02 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <D84WB15Z@cc.swarthmore.edu>, ment@cs.swarthmore.edu (Andrew Ment) writes:
> On the topic of newspapers, I've just recently returned from Britain, to
> the U.S. and I have to say that I was singularly disappointed with the 
> newspapers there.  I'm not speaking of the daily record, but the 
> "quality" papers like the independent and the times.
> 
> First of all they're damned expensive.  As a student it was hard to justify
> spending 45 pence for a paper when I was trying to spend 75 on my tea.
> 
They aren't cheap, but they don't rely entirely on advertising for revenue. If
you want quality you pay for it. (The Guardian's only 40p, BTW)

> Second of all, the newspapers in the world's most international city
> were singularly absorbed with domestic news.  Reading the independent,
> which I was told was the best but now I would prefer the Guardian, one
> gets a large amount of information about what has happened in the past
> day in the UK.
You were reading the wrong paper. The Guardian and the Telegraph are apparently
considered the best for overseas news. The Telegraph is unreadable for other
reasons, but the Guardian often  has very perceptive articles about overseas
issues. It also devotes a few tabloid pages three days a week to reports from
other European newspapers. The best place to get foreign news and comment,
though, is probably the radio. "From our own correspondent" on Radio 4 is
invaluable when its on: four or five detailed 5-minute analyses of situations
around the world.

> I understand complaints that the New York Times is bulky, difficult to
> read on the subway because you have to turn pages, ... But damn it
> I much prefer it.  If you read the NYT cover to cover for a week you'll
> have a pretty good grip on what's happening in the world, and WHY.  In
> Britain, or other parts of the U.S. you're pretty much left with the 
> Economist as the only news source that puts a large amount of information
> in context.

If you read the NYTimes cover to cover for a week you won't have time to do
anything else. 
-- 

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wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk    |   outgoing American. Highest bids accepted.
From: gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,uk.politics
Subject: Re: Tony Benn to abolish monarchy
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:59:16 GMT
Reply-To: gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK

In article <1993Jan22.135500.14300@infodev.cam.ac.uk> rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) writes:
>In article <C194F8.18C@newcastle.ac.uk>, w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk writes:
>|>   Tony Benn is to submit a private members bill to parliament
>|> called something like "The Commonwealth of Great Britain Bill"
>
>Given that private members' bills have essentially no chance of
>becoming law, even if they're non-controversial, I would submit that
>the `subject' of your article was a teensy bit misleading  :-)

That's not true.  Private members' bills quite often become law as
long as the Government is reasonably sympathetic.  (That doesn't
apply to this one, of course.)

--
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Computer Laboratory                | Fax: +44 (0)223 334678
New Museums Site, Pembroke Street  | JANET: Guy.Barry@uk.ac.cam.cl 
Cambridge CB2 3QG, England, UK     | Internet: Guy.Barry@cl.cam.ac.uk 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: jac54@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: london, england
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Distribution: soc
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:15:41 GMT

In article <4029@wyse.wyse.com> jmunro@wyse.wyse.com (Jim Munro x2497) writes:
>In article <1jlnnhINNnvf@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> smckinty@sunicnc.France.Sun.COM (Steve McKinty - Sun ICNC) writes:
>>In article <4022@wyse.wyse.com>, jmunro@wyse.wyse.com (Jim Munro x2497) writes:
>>> In article <ba1702Em32cB01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> czl30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Chris Lee) writes:
>>
>>>                                 We also enjoy
>>> California Cuisine, which is your basic Nouvelle Cuisine, but made with
>>> fresh ingredients year round.
>>
>>Unfortunately mixed with the no-salt, low-cholesterol, half-fat, one calorie
>>zero flavour other ingredients...
>>
>
>
>Oh, I forgot, we also have good health and long life.
>

	Life expectancy in the U.S. is lower than that in France, where
	they drink vast quantities of liver toxins and eat cholesterol by
	the bucket.

	Funny world isn't it?

	Alec.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: news@infodev.cam.ac.uk (USENET news)
Subject: re: British Sitcoms, etc.
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:42:50 GMT

This article was probably generated by a buggy news reader.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker)
Subject: Re:  Succession Order
Reply-To: Hallam@zeus02.desy.de
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:44:27 GMT

In article <1jk99dINNe5v@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S.
Hlabse) writes:

|>It is:
|>
|>Queen Elizabeth II
|>Prince Charles
|>Prince William
|>Prince Henry
|>Prince Andrew
|>Princess Beatrice
|>Princess Eugenie
|>Prince Edward
|>Princess Anne
|>Peter Phillips (Anne's son)
|>Zara Phillips (Anne's daughter)
|>Princess Margaret
|>Vincount Linley (Margaret's son)
|>Lady Sarah Snowdon (Margaret's daughter)
|>The Duke of Gloucester
|>Gloucester's children
|>The Duke of Kent
|>Kent's children
|>who knows and at this point who cares?

I think I will buy the Duke of Kent's children a copy of Kind Hearts and
Corronets and the ancarchists cookbook.

--

Phill Hallam-Baker
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british