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From: couyant@convex.com (George Couyant)
Subject: Re: Road Racer
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 04:01:27 GMT
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> From: niall@c3.PLA.CA.US (Neal Bedard)
> Subject: Re: Road Racer
> 
> In article <1992Jul24.060323.19044@convex.com> couyant@convex.com (George Couyant) writes:
> > [lots...]
    ^^^^^^^^^
    Yea, yea, ok, you should meet me, my mouth never stops...
> 
> Is this rec.motorcycles.dirt or rec.motorcycles.George.Couyant? My god, man,
         
	Ummm, I'm only allowed one personal news feed and I picked dirt.
	I'd love to get the rest of rec.mot..., but alas, my boss fears
	that I'd get even less work done in my day...Who does he think he
	is anyway?  Er, If you read this Rob, love the tie mate, really
	do.

> you've got a race coming up! Shouldn't you twisting wrenches and safety wire
> instead of wasting all this time posting news?

	Are you kidding? I'm one of these cursed people that only needs
	3-4 hours sleep every night. I've got to do something...It's just
	that the family gets _really_ pissed off when I start a bike or use
	power tools at 4 in the morning...
> 
> The CR has the Open-class motor of doom - however, I probably would've started
> with a KX500 

	Well, the CR was just sitting there. I hardly ever ride it. Besides,
	it's an '86 model so the frame geometry was reasonable. I wouldn't
	dare use a newer model without modifying the frame or new triple
	clamps.

> (I bet George will be in the market for a Unic damper before the
> weekend is out.)

	Yup.

	Cheers chum
	George C.

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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: It was a long week today.
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:14:20 GMT

couyant@convex.com (George Couyant) writes:
>> From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)

>>   Revelation #2:  chainsaws are *very* handy riding tools.  We cleared a 

Well, I've never packed a chainsaw, but a folding hand saw has come in
handy a couple of times. Big, huge, large teeth with lots of space in
between are what you want. Small teeth load up too fast, and those
flexible cable saws are completely useless on wood.

When there's a huge pine laying across a narrow trail, you don't have
many options. The thing was too low to drag the bikes under it, and too
high to haul them over it (and the Quad wouldn't have fit, even if the
bikes could). So it was either invest some time in trail maintenance, or
call it a day after only a couple hours of riding. And this was on an
improved/approved motorcycle/ATV trail too. A chainsaw would have been
nice, but I'd hate to be they guy packing it!

>>   Revelation  #3:  establish  trail rules for a group  ride.  Rule #1, #2,

>	The only rule we have is that the first rider to reach an
>	intersection is to wait and wave everyone through. Only after
>	everyone is through does he take off again. He can then ride as
>	hard or as easily as he wants to.

Hey, I like this idea. That way the whole gang doesn't have to wait for
the slower riders, nobody gets lost, and as you say, the fast guy gets
more practice threading through traffic. :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
From: Kenneth_Ferguson@rand.org (Ken Ferguson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Smokin' 2-Strokes and Crank Seals
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:11:53 GMT
Organization: RAND
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     George; First of all what brand and size bike is it? Is it water
cooled?
What does the oil smell like? What color is the smoke?


   If the oil is green it may have anti freeze in it. If the smoke is
white
then it is a water leakage problem. If it's blue than it's oil. If it's
black
you have a carb problem. 


    Post us back with more info on your scoot and maybe we can help.


           Ken Ferguson CAMPIONE RACING
From: slv42@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Tires for rocks?
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:04:46 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

I read Blaine's summary of DOT knobies from DB mag. and the Pirelli MT21
Rallycross (rated 1'st) seems like a lot of tire for the $.  I ride in a
lot of loose rocks, and I wonder how well these (and other tires too) 
would hold up.  They have fairly tall knobs - is there a problem with 
losing whole knobs in the rocks?  I need a rear now and front later.
I only have one bike and no car, so I need something decent on the street,
too.  (I put in ~ 1/2 of my miles in the dirt)  What can you folks reccomend?

Also I'm curious.  Where is ATK?

Eric Poulson                slv42@cc.usu.edu         KLR 250

Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:41:56 -0400 
From: Mark Joseph Andy <ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Bike Suggestions?
	<1992Jul29.031409.9957@convex.com>

Howdy,

couyant@convex.com (George Couyant) writes:
> > From: donald@dvinci.USask.Ca (David Donald)
> > Subject: Bike Suggestions?

> > I am going to be out of school ( and thus no longer POOR!!! :) )
> > in the next...
> 
>         What, you mean there are still jobs waiting for those straight out
>         of school?.....actually, that isn't funny...

Nope, that isn't funny :-(  My advice to David is to wait until you
have your first paycheck, before you even *start thinking* about the
new dirt bike/racing/whatever.  Trust me on this one...

Mark (who now has this neat KDX, with plenty of time to ride, and no
money for gas.  F**king life smacks me again).
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From: garyb@pdx015 (Gary Brown)
Subject: Re: New Bikes
Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:03:19 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.134337.23223@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> freddie@roost.Columbia.NCR.COM (Freddie Smith) writes:
>Does anybody out there have any access to the inner circle of
>those people who decide what models get updated? I mean like,
>the KX500. This is the 4th year that the 500 has basically
>the same frame and motor. Don't get me wrong, the bike is 
>a damn good bike, but sometimes I need a little more justifi-
>cation than, oh, it's airbox is bigger or the graphics are
>different to buy a new bike. I ridden KX500's since '89
>and always have had good luck with them. Wonderfull bikes,
>but I want either a new frame or something to change to make
>me buy a new KX500.  I have rode a 92 Honda CR500 and I was
>impressed, but the local dealer likes dirt about as much as
>I like to be stung by a yellow jacket. So I just don't know
>what to do. Besides, 4000 big ones is lot to pay for a different
>airbox, timing, and jetting and a different valving in the forks.

  You'd be paying a lot more than "4000 big ones" if the manufacturers
  had to give you a new frame and engine each year to cover engineering
  costs.  Also, parts would be a lot harder to come by for even 
  relatively new bikes (say 2-3 years old).  I, for one, am glad to see
  them stick with similar designs each year.  It keeps the cost down
  and the after-market folks can afford to put more effort into 
  performance parts that can be used for several years.  The guys who
  want more performance can get it, and the guys who just want to
  get into the sport for a reasonable price can do it.

  Remember what bikes like the DT1 did for dirt-biking in the 70s?

  Gary Brown  '88 Husky 430wr
From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 04:58:04 GMT
Subject: It was a long week today.
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt

Today we set out to find/create some new trails and routes in the local
USFS.  I was out with a few other club members and we were able to create
the loop trial we were looking for.  Now we'll start working with the USFS
to make official at least 1 of the 5 trails we discovered.  The other four
will have to remain our little secret ;-)  

Here's some random thoughts about todays ride: 

  What I've been writing in my .sig really is true.  "We don't stop riding
  because we get old, we get old because we stop riding."  One of the guys
  on this ride was 68 years young.  Riding an XR200, he wasn't the fastest
  rider,  but on many  miles of cross  country  riding  and  single  track
  trails, he made it over every obstacle (sometimes better than I did) and
  never fell down.  All this while  wearing a backpack  containing a small
  chainsaw.

  Revelation #2:  chainsaws are *very* handy riding tools.  We cleared a 
  number of long forgotten trails to make some connecting routes.  Sure, 
  we could have lifted our bikes over some of the logs, but a few minutes 
  of sawing and now the trail will be cleared the next time we come thru.
  A chain saw more than makes up for poor log crossing technique.  :-)

  Revelation  #3:  establish  trail rules for a group  ride.  Rule #1, #2,
  and #3 are to  always  wait  at the  non-obvious  intersections.  At one
  point,  we had  communicated  where we would  turn so we  didn't  bother
  waiting for the 3rd rider in our group.  It was simple.  When you get to
  the stream, turn left, don't cross the stream.  Well, the stream  looked
  much like many of the other mud holes and he missed the turn.  We put in
  an extra 30 miles of mud, bogs, rocks,  water, and bogs to try and catch
  up with him.  He made it back to the truck OK, but we spent 2 hours on a
  tedious jeep trail when we could have been  exploring  or riding  single
  track trails.

  Don't ride  anywhere near a mud puddle with old farts from Oregon.  They
  don't fight fair :-/

  XR600 clutch cables are extremely  vulnerable to snagging on branches and
  logs.  When they hang up, they'll snap the mounting  bracket  that is an
  integral part of the left engine sidecover.  Anyone got a hot tip on how
  easy it is to find someone able to weld magnesium?  I broke mine 5 miles
  into the ride.  We were able to apply sufficient masses of wire to finish
  the ride.  I noticed in a recent  Dirt Bike  article  that part of Scott
  Summers  prep  work  is to  route  the  clutch  cable  along  the  front
  down-tube, inbetween the exhaust pipes.  Has anyone tried this?  Will it
  require a longer clutch cable?

-Jeff Deeney-  KotD#0000   DoD#0498    NCTR    '88 XR600-Shamu 
jld@hpfcla.fc.hp.com       AMA#540813  COHVCO  '81 CB750F-Llamaha 
We don't stop riding because we get old, we get old because we stop riding.
From: frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: pipes
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:26:40 CDT
Organization: Texas Instruments Component Test Facility


     I'm considering an aftermarket pipe to boost the low end on
     my 125 Zook.  The adds all look good, but only experience will
     tell.  I'm looking at PSI, Krause, Pro-Circuit and DG.

     My two major concerns are: 
            1.  best possible design for maximum grunt.
            2.  Fit (no burnt or rubbed parts). 

     Any testimony?
_____________________________________________________________________________
mark frampton (RM)             |  "Friends don't let friends ride S****i."
frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com    |  "Life is short, ride hard."
                               |  "Born and Bred to Rip and Shred."


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From: couyant@convex.com (George Couyant)
Subject: Re: Road Racer
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 05:49:45 GMT
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              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

> From: root@joncpc.Your.Domain.Here (0000-Admin(0000))
> Subject: Re: Road Racer
> 
> More good wishes George from another old fart & r.m.dirt lurker. Keep
> out of hospital and keep us all posted!

	Hey thanks ya F.O.F. (Fellow Old Fart)!

>           Jon M.(Mike) Corcoran <Mike.Corcoran@SanDiego.NCR.COM>   
                                                 ^^^^^^^^
						 Tell me, what's the
						 weather like in late
						 Feb?
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: RUBICON TRAIL (4 wheels ? )
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:45:52 GMT

couyant@convex.com (George Couyant) writes:
>> From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)

>> Of course, one would never dream of roosting said rolling roadblocks in
>> a gravel streambed, or soaking them in a water crossing, would one?

>	Oh you vidictive wipper snapper you...

Moi?  No, certainly not. But it sure is tempting at times. :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: couyant@convex.com (George Couyant)
Subject: Re: Road Racer
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 05:48:26 GMT
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              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

> From: frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com
> Subject: Re: Road Racer
> 
> 
> 	I also think maybe Devil's Bowl Speedway has or used to have
>  	a "Knobby Night" on the oval.

	....this is a road race circuit, like a mini GP track, though
	speedway is something I've considered a number of times...I've
	just put it off thinking it's something I'll get into when I'm
	old. Maybe something with sides and, heaven forbid, a roof...

	Cheers
	George C.

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From: dunne@rtsg.mot.com (Jim Dunne)
Subject: Re: It was a long week today.
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:03:27 GMT

In article <17550010@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com> mcclend@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Mike McClendon) writes:

>XR600 clutch bracket:  Easy to find a shop for magnesium welding, since

>The repair is *much* stronger than the original, but I'm a little concerned
>about what might break now if the cable hangs really hard again.  Next time,

      Can you zip-tie the clutch cable out of the way of tree branches
      etc., or would this cause too much binding?  Or are these unusual
      circumstances that cased the breakages?  I don't suppose bark
      busters would help any...

      -jed
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From: ciotti@wk42.nas.nasa.gov (Robert B. Ciotti)
Subject: Re: Honda Win's (again)
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 23:25:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.184352.20081@lsil.com> france@lsil.com writes:
>Ken Ferguson writes :
>" Little did Bayle suspect that Stanton would come back the next year
> and show the Euros Just who the best in the world really is. 
> This obviously came as a shock to Jean. "
>      ^^^^^^^^^
>
>I didn't see the LA race but what is "obviously" is that the best this year 
>was Bradshaw not Stanton, and Stanton should at least thanks his team mate to 
>finish in front of Bradshaw in this last race ...

 Your definitely correct. But, I don't feel the least bit sad about Bradshaw.
In my opinion, dirty riders should be forced to sit out a race when they
are bad boys, especially when they are as bad as Damon the Dick. That 
would have had the same effect as Bayle.

 Bob Ciotti
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From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: KDX200 kickstand wanted
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:03:56 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA

ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Joseph Andy) writes:
: Howdy,
: 
: I need a KDX200 kickstand, mounting plate, and spring.  Anyone got one
: or know where I can get one cheap?

Sorry Mark, but I don't know of anywhere you can get one CHEAPLY.  Don't 
buy the stocker though, they are about $70.  Malcolm Smith Racing makes
an aftermarket that looks trick and is about $20 cheaper.  Don't forget 
to locktite the mounting bolts this time :)

You might also try some of the used parts places that advertise in the 
DB rags.

: 
: Mark
: 

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From: couyant@convex.com (George Couyant)
Subject: Re: chain delima
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 06:43:36 GMT
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              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

> From: hvozda@wilbur.psu.edu (Eric Hvozda)
> Subject: Re: chain delima
> 
> the bike threw a rear wheel bearing and toasted the rear hub.
> I have yet to find a replacement :-(

	How toasted is toasted??

	You may be able to weld it up and machine it back to spec. If you
	don't have the equipment to do it, get into the phone book and
	look up some general engineering shops in your area. Take it to
	them with bearings and brake hub and see what they say. It may
	only need an hour or so of their time and you could be pleasantly
	surprised.

	It is after all, just a lump of metal that can be moulded and
	machined into any shape you want.....

	Best of luck.
	George Couyant.

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From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Submarines
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:49:47 GMT
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA

couyant@convex.com (George Couyant) writes:

[excellent waterproofing and diagram deleted]

: 
: While I'm at it, a few pointers....
: 
: 1. If you can't see the bottom, get off and walk the bike across with the
:    motor off.
: 
: 2. When you're walking it, stand downstream of the bike. The water will be
:    pushing the bike against you and you can lean into the bike giving you
:    good support.
: 
: 3. Try and stand on the pegs with your weight back when riding through.
:    This'll give you a number of advantages, such as being able to see
:    better into the water ahead, unweighted front ready for you to gas it
:    if you hit a hidden rock and of course, the bike can move around
:    beneath you whilst you're still in control.

     Rev the engine to midrange or so and slip the clutch to control the speed.
     If the engine is in the strength of the powerband it'll be harder to 
     stall.

: 
: 4. If you do drop it, pick it up straight away and don't try to start it 
:    in the water. If it's taken a lung full of water, you'll only damage
:    the motor.
: 
: 5. If it has drowned, you need to check air box and filter, drain the carby 
:    float bowl, fuel tank (water's more dense than gas, so it sinks) and pull 
:    the plug out and dry it and kick it to get any water out from the 
:    cylinder. 
: 
:    Cheers and happy submarining!
:    George C.

Merf

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From: ai598@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Sturdevant)
Subject: Re: Honda Win's (again)
Reply-To: ai598@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Sturdevant)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 15:09:19 GMT


In a previous article, ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Joseph Andy) says:

>> Some team mate. Stanton later said "Now he can go back to
>> France
>> where he will be happy.
>
>What was the deal with Bayle this season?  He always seemed to be
>something of a prick.  Last year after he won 3 championships, he
>kinda said that he didn't really care about 'em (making everyone else
>feel great I'm sure).

You'd get a 'tude if the crowd boo'ed you every time you won. Which happened
to Ole J-M a bunch of times last year. I think he started out basically being
another racer, with a shitload of talent, out to win races and championships.
The treatment he received from the 'merican public sucked and he decided to 
deal with it by being a dickhead. I think I might do the same.
 
Anybody know how he did in France at the roadraces?


-- 
Go fast. Take chances.

	Mike S.
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 01:55:25 -0400 
From: Mark Joseph Andy <ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: YIPEEEEE!
	<1992Jul27.040404.11121@convex.com>

Howdy,

[details of a great weekend deleted]

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!

Glad the new bike worked out.  You might wanna try swapping the front
end with something from a 600 class sportbike to get better
brakes/better front suspension.  I really can't believe that you raced
it without a steering damper...  Believe me when I say that you DO NOT
want to get in a tank slapper.

I think that you should definately stick with the bike (assuming that
classes are available that aren't psycho).  The motor advantage should
be great (were the '86 CR's liquid cooled?).

What kinda class was the novice class that you ran?  Was it all first
timers, or is it set up like novice classes here, where you can have
novice racers that are better than 90% of the experts?

Anyway, I'm psyched that you did well.  Always great to hear of a new
addict^H^H^H^H^H^H roadracer, and it's great to hear that the bike
worked so well.

Mark

| Mark J. Andy			WERA NV #813		AMA #700560	|
| ma1w+@cmu.edu			KotR			DoD #813	|
| Co-founder/Rider, Team RISC and Two Geeks Racing			|
| '82 Seca 650 (street), '85 RZ350 (track), '87 KDX200 (the humbler)	|
| I want RZ350 parts like steering damper, fork brace, SS lines, etc... |
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From: couyant@convex.com (George Couyant)
Subject: Re: Road Racer
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 06:56:27 GMT
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              not necessarily those of CONVEX.
From: Kenneth_Ferguson@rand.org (Ken Ferguson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: pipes
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:49:29 GMT
Organization: RAND
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1a2



      Frampton; Any relation to Peter? Well any way you forgot to mention
FMF. 
being a PRO CIRCUIT advocate myself I therefore find it hard to say this,
but most
actual racing wrenches will tell you that for Zookies
THE BEST pipe is an FMF. 

    They specialize in Suzukis and when you combine their pipes with
their 
rad valves, you have a virtual rocket ship. I should know I've been past
by 
enough of them. Now if only I liked Suzukies, but yellow and green bikes
are bad luck. Everyone knows that. Right?


    But seriously Frampster; definitly go with the FMF pipe you wont be
sorry.



                   Ken Ferguson CAMPIONE RACING
   
                                           Agoura Ca.