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From: BEJ102@psuvm.psu.edu (Bryan Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: mtb chainrings - which are the best?
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:36:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Jul22.133315.11240@vicorp.com>, chaz@vicorp.com (Charlie
Hileman) says:
>
>From what I understand, some designs of the small chain rings are
>supposed to prevent "chain suck" - do they work?  (I get chain suck
>once or twice a ride, usually when shifting very quickly on rough
>terrain.  I'm reluctant to add the "chain suck thing" unless I really
>need it).
>

I swithced from Suntuor XCD cranks and Sunturo rings to Specialized
cranks and chainrings.  And since then, have never had any shainsuck, but
only got it very rarely before.  But I do like the Specialized rings
anyways - they feel really smooth....


Bryan
From: chzs06@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Bicycle Racks
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:01:24 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <biM'UapI@twinsun.com>, coleman@twinsun.com (Mike Coleman) writes:
> At UCLA, the *new* bikeracks are basically inverted U's made of 1 1/2" pipe,
> about 3' high, with the ends anchored in concrete.  These look pretty good to
> me, and using a U-lock with them is easy.

That sounds like a Sheffield rack, named after the UK city council
who designed them.

They are good.

neil
From: sde@larry.sal.wisc.edu (Scott Ellington)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Signalling right turns
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:41:40 GMT
Organization: Space Astronomy Lab, Madison, WI


The problem with signalling with the right hand is that it leaves you
with control of only the front brake, when you are often slowing
down for the turn.  We all know what happens when the front brake
is applied just a little too hard.

Scott Ellington
Space Science and Engineering Center
University of Wisconsin
sde@sal.wisc.edu
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From: ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern)
Subject: Re: olympics - CATHY WATTS WINS IWRR!!!
Organization: NCAR/UCAR
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:35:25 GMT

Great race, but the TV coverage almost made me toss my cookies.  It
*did* make me turn off the set in the middle of the race, as I decided
that having to sit through umpteen commercials, three "up close and
personal" sessions, a rehash of the opening ceremonies, and "your local
news" was just not worth it.  I figured I could wait until this morning
and see the results in the paper.  (BTW I *am* a Neilsen data point,
so turning off the set tells NBC that about 4000 people in Boulder CO
were disgusted with their coverage!)

Bad luck for Inga Thompson.  Good work, Cathy Watts (I guess it helps
to be deemed insignificant :-) !

-- 
/\        Ilana Stern DoD#009 | Whoever first said, "Things are seldom as they 
  \_][    ilana@ncar.ucar.edu | seem," was wrong.  Things are usually as they
      \_______________________| seem.  Otherwise, they wouldn't seem that way.
From: varvel@cs.utexas.edu (Donald A. Varvel)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Ride safe, fellow cyclists.
Date: 24 Jul 1992 15:30:03 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <Jym.24Jul1992.9am7@naughty-peahen.org> jym@remarque.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer) writes:
>>> . . . or any other statues where violated . . .
>> In most jurisdictions there is no specific law against
>> violating statues, although it would be best done in private.
>
>=o= Actually, most states have statuatory rape laws.

Make up your mind.  "Statutory" or "statuary"?  Laws against the
former are universal.  Laws against the latter are at best highly
unusual.

-- Don Varvel (varvel@cs.utexas.edu)
From: urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Behemoth
Date: 26 Jul 1992 12:21:11 +0200
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1

In rec.bicycles, article <55094@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>,
  flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip Russell) writes:
< In article <1992Jul25.171206.24804@cis.ohio-state.edu> akins@flamingo.cis.ohio-state.edu (gregory adkins) writes:
< >The internet address for Behemoth is:
< >
< >WORDY@bike.lab.sun.com
< 
< This address must not be right. It got bounched back.

Try wordy@lorien.qualcomm.com.
(No, I don't know if this is correct either.)

-- 
Beauty is skin deep; ugly goes right to the bone.
-- 
Matthias Urlichs  --  urlichs@smurf.sub.org -- urlichs@smurf.ira.uka.de   /(o\
Humboldtstrasse 7 -- 7500 Karlsruhe 1 -- Germany  --  +49-721-9612521     \o)/
From: tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: LEMOND - No More!
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:14:43 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Jul20.101051.7656@vax.oxford.ac.uk> ftgcdj@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>Well, Greg Lemond has quit the Tour, and I for one will not miss him. I was
>getting a bit fed up with all his whinging about not feeling to good on one
>day, then saying he felt great the next (the day he and Chiapucci stole just
>over a minute). You don't here people like Roche or Chiapucci complaining.

You would hear people like Roche and Chiapucci complaining if the press asked
them the same questions they asked Greg. Elite athletes all need their
egos massaged if only to prove to themselves that it isn't their fault,
that all they need is a little rest. Some deal nicely with this stuff and
others don't. No big deal. If you don't like the whining, don't read it.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: sims@possum.den.mmc.com (John Sims)
Subject: Re: funny stretch pants
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics Group, Denver
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:33:15 GMT

In article <23JUL199222120733@iago.caltech.edu> lmh@iago.caltech.edu (Henling, Lawrence M.) writes:
> In the 'morning briefing' of the sports section of the LA Times of Sunday, 
>July 19 is a reprint of some comments by
> Mark Purdy of the San Jose Mercury News.
> He discusses the proposed realignment of pro baseball and suggests some other
>realignments, one of which is:
>
> "The Tour de France bicycle race should be realigned onto the Santa Monica
>Freeway - during rush hour. We would definitely see how many of those guys
	   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>in the funny stretch pants are real men."

Shouldn't be any problem at all.  After all, what's the challenge in
outsprinting a car which is moving about 5mph?  Why they still call it
"rush hour" is beyond me.  Everyone may _be_ in a rush, but no one's
getting anywhere at much of any speed.  Y'know, just once, I love to see
some football jock like John Amway, er Elway, ride a stage in _any_ pro
bike race.  The results could be quite amusing.

John

-- 
John Sims    sims@pogo.den.mmc.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: fielden@spot.Colorado.EDU (j.a. fielden)
Subject: Re: PowerBars in the US
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:40:44 GMT

In article <33050127@hpmwgde2.sr.hp.com> budn@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Bud Noren) writes:
>dewolfe@ug.cs.dal.ca (Anarchy for Peace) 
>
>>Can someone there is the United States tell me how much Power Bars
>>cost down there.  I'm from Canada where they are now banned and our
>>local shop has just run out.  I will be going down to L.A. soon
>>and plan on picking up a couple of boxes.
>
>The typical retail for a single bar is $1.69.  If you look around a bit
>you might get them for $1.25.  Mail order cost is usually about $26 per
>box of 24 bars.  All in US$.
>
>-Bud

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: PowerBars in the US
Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Keywords: 

In article <33050127@hpmwgde2.sr.hp.com> budn@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Bud Noren) writes:
>dewolfe@ug.cs.dal.ca (Anarchy for Peace) 
>
>>Can someone there is the United States tell me how much Power Bars
>>cost down there.  I'm from Canada where they are now banned and our
>>local shop has just run out.  I will be going down to L.A. soon
>>and plan on picking up a couple of boxes.
>
>The typical retail for a single bar is $1.69.  If you look around a bit
>you might get them for $1.25.  Mail order cost is usually about $26 per
>box of 24 bars.  All in US$.
>
>-Bud

Or at Price Club they are $23 for a box of 24.
From: bilgeoid@milton.u.washington.edu (Patricia Gellert)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Where is Spike Bike?
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:28:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Jul23.192842.29207
Reply-To: bilgeoid@u.washington.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

About two or three years ago there was a series of articles about a fictional
gun-toting, automobile-hating biker called Spike Bike.  I really liked them
and would like to re-read them.

Does anyone know where to find these articles, perhaps they are in an FTP
archive or something?

Reply via mail to me and I will summarize to the newsgroup.

Thanks ...
Brian L. Henry
bilgeoid@u.washington.edu (borrowed)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: skon@cis.ohio-state.edu (james paul skon)
Subject: numb toes
Originator: skon@gecko.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:42:14 GMT

From: skon@cis.ohio-state.edu (james paul skon)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Numb toes
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Keywords: 


I recently purchased a pair of Performance Century Shoes for use with
my new LOOK pedals.  After a couple of miles the toes in my left foot
go numb.  The shoes seem to fit ok, but my left foot is a little bigger then
my right foot.

Is this a common problem?  Does it get better as the shoes break in, or 
should I get rid of the shoes?  I never had this problem with my touring 
shoes and clips.

Thanks for any advice,
Jim
skon@cis.ohio-state.edu
From: smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Avocet 30: mounting trans. ring
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:56:51 GMT
Reply-To: P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Organization: University of Bristol

In article <jh.1@scs.uiuc.edu> jh@scs.uiuc.edu (jh) writes:
>The transmitter ring for the Avocet 30 has three little tabs which snap over
>the front hub.  Unfortunately, I have 32 spoke wheels and 3 into 32 does not
>go, i.e. there's always at least one spoke in the way.  The manual recommends
>cutting off the tabs and attaching the ring with electrical ties to the
>nearest spoke crossings.  This solution is sub-optimal given that the
>electrical ties won't match up neatly either.  Is there a clever solution
>that I am missing.  Any advice appreciated.        jh.

May depend on the exact design of your hubs, but I got near-enough in
the same situation by cutting off ONE of the little tabs, and then
using electrical ties in a nearest-match position to make up for it.
The Avocet manuals in the UK also suggest that you can get a 4-tab ring
from your dealer (who may have to special-order it).  Might be worth
looking into, anyway.

-- 
Paul Smee, Computing Service, University of Bristol, Bristol BS8 1UD, UK
 P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk - ..!uunet!uknet!bsmail!p.smee - Tel +44 272 303132
From: bdombrow@triton.unm.edu (brent m 92jun08 dombrowski)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Good Road Race bikes for about $600
Summary: Gian Yukon Question
Keywords: What is the nub?
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:02:04 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


	I just recently bought a Giant Yukon.  On the non gear side of the
frame, there is a little nub that sticks out.  I is about an inch from the rear
axle on the lower part of the frame.  I have no idea what it is for and the 
people at the bike shop are baffled too.  Anyone out there have any ideas?

	--------------
	\	     |\
	 \	     | \
	  \	     |  \
	   \         |   \
	    \-----------o-

	The "o" is the little nub I am talking about

Side View

	_
	 |_
	   \
	  _/
	_|

Anybody know?

Brent Dombrowski (bdombrow@triton.unm.edu)

--
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: RONEAL@lexmark.com
Subject: Re: Bad Accident
Organization: Lexmark International, Lexington, KY
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:30:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.195358.19369@cbnewsi.cb.att.com>
boop@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (joseph.a.lapenta) writes:
 
>
>
>Just had to give my opinion on this one.
>
>I know a lot of people that are cops and I must say there are very
>few of them that are in that job for the right reasons (helping
>society, public service, etc.).
>
>I have now donned my Nomex suit, so let the flames fly.
 
No flames... unfortunately further confirmation of the sad truth you've
pointed out.  In my hometown, I know at least two of the cops there... I
grew up with them.  All through school... lazy butts that loved to bully
kids around, tear wings off of flys, all the stereotypical 'rotton kid'
kinda stuff.  Now they're carrying .357's and nightsticks... makes the
hair on my neck stand.  I swear, the only reason one of them joined is for
the free coffee and donuts.  I'd trust them to watch out for my interests
about as much as I trust Congress to eliminate the deficit.
 
On the other hand, my cousin's husband is a cop and I'd trust him with
my life.
 
It takes all types... but unfortunately it seems that smart, trustworthy
people don't always make it into the police departments.
 
I will say this in defense of the men in blue.  They do a job that I would
*never* consider doing.  They place their lives on the line each and every
day - you never know when some whacko is going to shoot a cop for being in
the wrong place at the wrong time.  They have been entrusted with our
safety and they defend it with their lives.
 
So, rather than simply writing them off, we ought to try to educate them,
assist them, etc. whenever possible.  Cop-bashing is the in thing to do
right now, especially since the Rodney King incident and many others that
have come to the surface.  The utter disregard that the cops showed in the
incident that started this thread is totally without excuse.  They need to
be educated, corrected, suspended, whatever it takes for them to realize
they cannot betray the public trust in this way.
 
My $.02 worth...
 
 
Randy O'Neal  RONEAL@lexmark.com     Printer Attach Software Development
                                     Lexmark International, Inc.
-- Weinberg's Law --                 Lexington, Ky.
'If builders built buildings like
 programmers wrote programs, then                                     __o
 the first woodpecker that came      "The views above are not those  `\<,
 along would destroy civilization.'   of my employer... just mine."  O/ O
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: sery@crunch.unm.edu (sery)
Subject: Re: Olympic women's road race
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 17:57:02 GMT
Organization: /usr/local/lib/rn/organization

Ed Rush writes:
>Can someone provide the full story on the last lap of the
>Olympic women's road race?  I watched NBC's coverage Sunday
>night, and they focused on Inge Whatsername of Reno and 
>the French J. Longo almost to the exclusion of anyone else.
>Then, at the last lap, they showed the Australian Watt's 
>breakaway and Longo's attempt to catch her up, and that was
>it.
I can't give the full story because all I saw was stuff about how much
everyone hates Longo like everyone else but it seems obvious what happened:
The French looked at the Americans to chase and visa-versa; everyone else
looked at everyone else.  Watt who won the Ore-ida prologue and was voted
most aggressive rider there used this rivalry brilliantly and won.  I love it.

How did Longo get away at the end when everyone was keying on her?  My guess
is her teammates wound the speed up until everyone was strung out and then
she attacked.  She got a gap and everyone looked for someone to chase.  Nobody
did and they quickly settled for third.
>
>It appeared that Inge was at the head of the pack (i.e., 
>in third place) with two or three miles to go, but this
>morning's news said that she finished 36th and that
>some other American woman was sixth!  It mentioned that
>she had a crash when someone ran her off the road, but
>I assume that it was referring to her third-lap crash.
>
>So, can someone fill in the details about how Inge fell
>so far back at the end?

Third place was decided by a field sprint and Inga is not a sprinter.
At that point she would have been setting up Zack or Golay and her own
place after doing that would be meaningless.

Paul Sery
Albuquerque, NM
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: madine@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (G. E. Madine, AT&T-BL/AL, cbnewsm.)
Subject: Re: Bad Accident
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 03:55:34 GMT
Summary: I second that advice.

In article <1992Jul27.203943.1239@javelin.sim.es.com>, bgeer@javelin.sim.es.com (Bob Geer) writes:
> jesnow@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan E Snow) writes:
> >ever seen, and still got flattened.  Third, the cops seemed unaware
> >that he had any rights at all that they might be interested in 
> 
> Please take a copy of your post to the police dept. & send copies to
> the police or city or count commissioner who has responsibility for
> the police dept.  Also take/send a copy to the local prosecutor's
> office.  The cops won't learn anything until their superiors mandate
> it, & I'm sure neither group reads the net.
>

I urge you to do the same.  Also talk to newspaper reporters.  Invite
them to come with you when you go to the department to get the identities
of the two officers that responded.  This was all you missed at the scene.
Although if you had asked for their names and badge numbers you would
have had to be prepared to be detained yourself on some trumped up charge.
Its not unheard of for the police to goad you into a fight so that
they can bring you in.

See if your club or local advocacy organization or prominent local
cyclists (e.g. professors) will write inquiry letters or make inquiry
phone calls.  Be sure to make further contact with the ambulance
driver.

Lastly, the issue about helmets is not relevant to the inexcusible
behavior of the police.  It could have been you.  You might have
had broken limbs.  The police would not have cared any more--they
might have cared less if that is possible.  Also, our helmet might
not have been adequate to protect you from serious head injury.

Gary E. Madine, AT&T Bell Labs, Allentown, PA
gem@aloft.att.com



From: ericr@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Eric Rentschler)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:39:00 GMT
Subject: Giant Carbon Fiber For Sale
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles


I am posting the following road bike for sale for a friend.  Anyone
interested can call him directly.

	Giant Cadex Carbon Fiber Composite, 600 Ultegra Group, 59 cm,
	Time Criterium Pedals, Scott Drop Ends, MA2 rims, mechanic
	owned, excellent condition, $799, call Jeff at (303) 224-4514


-Eric Rentschler
 
From: budn@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Bud Noren)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:06:50 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Climbs in TdF/Milk Race
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (NMD MTA MWTD)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles

gregm@koko.csustan.edu (Greg Murphy)

>In article <NICKH.92Jul20124512@VOILA.VENARI.CS.CMU.EDU>:

>>   I'd like to know more about the climbs in the Tour. What gradient _is_
>>   the Alpe D'Huez?

>I read today that it is 15-20% and 9 miles long.

No way.  That would put the verticle rise at between 7000 and 9500 feet.
I climbed it two years ago.  My impressions were (these are only subjective;
I didn't have an altimeter function at that time) that it was quite steep
at the bottom, possibly in the area of 15% and the rest is somewhat steep
at around 10-12% with a few short steeper sections.  It is a long climb,
however, and there are no downhill or level sections where you can rest.

-Bud
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles

KKRUEGER@Zeus.unomaha.edu (Kurt R. Krueger) writes:

                 >What they say           Should be
                 >---------------------------------------
>L'Alpe D'Huez    lalp-DO-ez              lalp-do-AY

Hmmm.  I asked several people right in the area of the Alpe exactly
how it is pronounced.  They do indeed pronounce the 'z'.  They also
put a slight schwa sound between the 'p' and the 'D'.  A little knowledge
of french phonetics is no guarantee that you can correctly pronounce
all words, especially place names.  I became painfully aware of this
during my bike trip there.  It was a humbling experience after 3
semesters of french!

>They're surprisingly
>not too bad with most of the Italian words, but I think that is because
>they're harder to sound out, so the announcers asked someone who can speak
>the language.

They sure butcher 'Chioccioli'!

-Bud
From: BRANDT_JOBST/HP1900_01@HPLOMG.HPL.HP.COM
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Bad Accident - Bad Cops
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:35:06 GMT

Ian Gardner writes:

> The moral is:  You never know about anything.  You never know if they
> are good or bad (cops, cyclists, drivers, officials, etc), until you get
> socked with a (accident, broken body, arrest warrant, etc).  Be careful.
> Be respectful.  There are always good and bad people, and sometimes
> they switch places.

What is all this jive about "you can't tell" about people.  This sounds
like Candide going out in the world wide eyed and naive.  Grownups, using
a term loosely, generally can recognize people who wish you harm by their
manner.  If this were not the case a large segment of the population
would daily stumble into some untoward "accident" that could otherwise be
avoided.  To assume all people are good for your well being is not a
good way to start the day.  It could seriously effect your mileage.

jobst_brandt@hplabs.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: pamela@keps.kodak.com (Pamela Blalock)
Subject: RAAM Update 07/31 9pm
Organization: Kodak Electronic Printing Systems
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 04:56:24 GMT


   Hogan Sulpher Springs Texas, 4:30 pm 1815 miles, 10.9 mph, 260 mpd
   Turner           191
   Allison          260


  Kish got out of Texas finally - Hunter, Louisiana, 4:34 pm 2184 miles
	14.9 mph, 357 mpd
  Fourney	   19
  Tatrai           20
  Kees            148
  Kent            191
  Ward            280
  Vetterli        334
  Stoneman        360
  Bowles          378
  Black           379
  Schwarz         380
  Kross           407
  Gfeller         474
  Davies          506
  Bond            541
  Thomas          733


Will Fourney pass Kish at the end? (as usual - will Kish remain the
bridesmaid or will his strategy of staying out front work) Or will
last year's rookie of the year take it from both of them. Stay tuned.
This looks fun!

The mixed tandem division looks more and more like it will end in a sprint!

Wilson-Rietman - Henrietta, TX 8;30 pm 1666 miles, 11.3 mph, 270 mpd
Team Addison 13 back

Haldeman and Breedlove are matching pace with Kish also averaging 14.9
mph, 357 mpd. They passed through Longview TX at 7:53 pm.


-- 
Pamela Blalock                                     pamela@keps.kodak.com
Kodak Electronic Printing Systems, Inc             7 down, 5 to go!
164 Lexington Road, Billerica, MA 01821-3984