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From: mickey@magickingdom.Eng.Sun.COM (Michael Bierman, FrameMaker Guru)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Job opening: FrameMaker Guru
Date: 4 Sep 1992 01:49:00 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mickey@magickingdom.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: magickingdom
Keywords: Job, Wanted,

We are currently looking to hire additional tallent to help me support 
the Tech writers and engineers here at Sun Microsystems. (Sun
Microsystems Computer Corp. specifically.)

The job description is as follows. Send e-mail if interested to
me:
Michael Bierman
mickey@magickingdom.eng.sun.com

or call:				or call or FAX

Sun Microsystems Inc			Tel-415-336-3758
2550 Garcia Avenue			Fax-415-968-4873
MS MTV19-106
Mountain View, California
96043-1100



Position:	TPID Tools Support

The TPID Tools Support person will provide tools support for all of
the writers and other personnel in Technical Publications & Information
Design.  Job responsibilities include:

* helping TPID users with tools questions and problems

* assist in evaluating and implementing changes to FrameMaker templates
  as mandated by TPID editorial, design, and tools support teams

* helping to install, configure, and distribute TPID tools software using
  the doctools server and contacts within other companies such as Frame
  Technology Inc.

* assiting in the documentation of the TPID tools

The position requires:

* "Customer" oriented attitude

* strong problem solving skills

* strong communication and interpersonal skills

* an excellent working knowledge of FrameMaker

* some experience with tech support prefered

* a desire and ability to provide tools support to many individuals
  and teams

* C and shell programming experience a definite plus





Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: nghoff@albert.monsanto.com (Norman G. Hoffman)
Subject: Frame Maker breaks other 3d party software
Keywords:  frame maker openwindows
Organization: Monsanto Company
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:24:35 GMT

We recently installed the OpenLook GUI version of FrameMaker 3.1 (3.1ol) 
on a SPARCstation 1+ running SunOS 4.1.1 and OpenWindows 3.0.  
We have found that running 3.1ol prevents another third-party product from 
running.  Neither SunView FrameMaker 3.0 nor the X version of FrameMaker 3.1 
cause this problem, only 3.1ol.

The other product provides facilities for acquisition and analysis of data 
from laboratory instruments.  Here are the error messages we get from it 
after running 3.1ol:

    nghoff@albert 49> vn
    VNX: starting VNMR
    X Error:  BadAccess
      Request Major code 89 ()
      Request Minor code 0
      ResourceID 0x0
      Error Serial #92
      Current Serial #93
    nghoff@albert 50> 

Vn normally displays 3 windows: input, graphics, and text.
When this error occurs, the input and text windows appear, 
the error messages are generated, then the windows disappear.

The problem appears to have something to do with the window manager.
If we set the DISPLAY environment variable to use another machine's
console, vn works fine.  If we go to a remote machine and set its DISPLAY
variable to use the problem machine's console, vn exits on the remote
machine as described above.

Once we have run 3.1ol, vn will not run, even after 3.1ol has exited.
We must exit OpenWindows altogether and restart it with the "openwin" 
command for vn to work again.

Does anyone know what the above error messages mean?

nghoff@bb1t.monsanto.com
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: wilcox@carina.unm.edu (Sherman Wilcox)
Subject: Assorted questions
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 00:28:56 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

Like many Mac users, I've sought for years the perfect word/document
processor. I've gone through Nisus and Word, PageMaker, and now I'm
using FrameMaker. For my purposes, it's the closest I've come to my
dream application.

But I do miss the complete grep of Nisus. Why, oh why, didn't Frame
just put a complete grep into the Mac FM? Is it built into FM on other
platforms? Any word on fixing the silly (dangerous) cut/copy bug? On
fixing the limited footnote capabilities (or adding endnotes)?

Does anyone know of any plans to upgrade the Mac version? 

Other than the Fraase book, are there any third-party guides to FM?
Does anyone know of any in the works?

I'm working on my third book done in FrameMaker and wouldn't look
back. But I'd sure love to be able to do some smart search/replaces
and not have to worry about "testing" my paste before doing a cut.
Frame, are you listening?

Sherman Wilcox
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: rlw@IDA.ORG (Richard Wexelblat)
Subject: Re: Rotate Objects != 90 degrees?
Organization: IDA, Alexandria, VA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 16:09:05 GMT

lois@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com (Lois Gerber) writes:
: There is a keyboard option which is documented in Using Framemaker, page
: 7-38 for rotating objects an arbitrary number of degrees.  Notice
: that this option is restricted to only certain kinds of objects.

I presume you're talking about esc-xx1 and esc-xx2. They're certainly
not documented in my sunview "Using Framemaker" manual.  (Dated April
1991)
-- 
--Dick Wexelblat  (rlw@ida.org) 703 845 6601
  This message is not copyright.  Please feel free to use it
  in any context, at any time, with or without attribution.
  Quotes out of context and parodies are encouraged.
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: tla@bartok.att.com (Terry L Anderson 908-580-4428)
Subject: Re: frame and olvwm
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Liberty Corners, NJ
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 04:57:54 GMT

There are other significant limitations to the OL version's use of
NeWS:

1.  X resourses in .Xdefaults or the xrdb are ignored, so if one is
    not using absolutely pure OL standards Frame's windows will behave
    differently that the X windows on the screen.  For example, on my
    screen I drag windows around using the middle mouse button but I
    must remember that Frame windows use the left button.  I use twm
    and use the window list rather than icons but Frame's window
    insist on giving icons.  Of course xrdb font selections are
    ignored, ...

2.  Since X terminals have only X servers not X/NeWS servers the OL
    version cannot be used remotely on an X terminal or one any other
    remote machine that does not support NeWS.

3.  And of course Frame will not be able to port this version to other
    platforms such as HP or Intel/Unix(r) platforms to provide OL
    look-and-feel on them.

There are some advantages to the use of NeWS.  The use of ToolTalk is
nice and NeWS's Display PostScript allows imported Encapsulated
PostScript figures to show on the screen even without the optional
preview (bitmap) part -- the Display PostScript display also gets
better with magnification where the bitmap shown in the X/Motif
version does not.


			     --	Terry L Anderson
				AT&T Bell Laboratories -- Liberty Corners
				UUCP:	...!att!mozart!tla
				NET:	tla@mozart.att.com
				ATTMAIL: mozart!tla
				(908) 580-4428
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: lab@tellabs.com (Lester Bautista)
Subject: Re: frame and olvwm
Organization: Tellabs, Inc., IL
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:30:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.015431.9101@cc.uow.edu.au> jeremy@snrc.uow.edu.au writes:
>In article 2035@dutiws.tudelft.nl, graaff@dutiws.tudelft.nl (Hans de Graaff) writes:
>>In article <l9qp6jINNs7u@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> dalbec@clavin.Eng.Sun.COM (Gabe Dalbec) writes:
>>Anyway, Frame 3.0X works nicely, and also understands the virtual
>>desktop and other X-programs, so I guess I'll stick to that.
>
>Hear, hear! I hope Frame comes up with a decent Xview version sometime.

I vote for that! I *HATE* FrameMaker OpenLook 3.1a. Several people at my
site were in agreement with me. We all ended up switching back to
FrameMaker 3.1x.
-- 

Lester Bautista                       internet : lab@tellabs.com
Tellabs, Inc.                         tel:       708-512-7820
4951 Indiana Ave., Lisle, IL 60532    fax:       708-512-7099
From: cortesi@informix.com (David Cortesi)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: regular expressions (was Re: Assorted questions)
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:31:25 GMT
Reply-To: cortesi@informix.com
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <h9anmrk@lynx.unm.edu> wilcox@carina.unm.edu (Sherman Wilcox)  
writes:
> ... Why, oh why, didn't Frame
> just put a complete grep into the Mac FM? Is it built into FM on other
> platforms? 

All platforms I've seen have the same very limited regular expression
support, with which you cannot, for one example, search
for "(.*)"; that is, a phrase in parens.  (Because the star, meaning
zero-or-more of the preceding, is not supported -- you can search for
(*) which means "one word in parens" but you can't search for
multiple words in parens.) 

[other gripes omitted]

> Frame, are you listening?

Not on this mailing list!  If you want to tell Frame something, you
should email directly to "comments@frame.com" which is definitely
read by at least tech support, and supposedly by others at Frame.
From: smb@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Steve M. Burinsky)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: FrameMaker license server question
Date: 26 Aug 92 05:11:40 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <1992Aug24.091212.29686@rs.com> horen@rs.com writes:
>
>As I wrote Ruben (I guess I should have also posted it to the net), my
>experience with running both Sun and SGI FrameMaker license-servers is
>that "Yes", you can access the SGI license from the Sun by:
>
>   1.	Select "Info" from the main FrameMaker menu.
>
>   2.	Select "License" from the FrameMaker Information form.
>
>   3.	On the License Form:
>
>	a.  Change "License Server Host" to the SGI license-server hostname.
>
>	b.  Select "Get License"
>
>   4.	Repeat Steps 1 and 2, and verify that you@host are now listed on
>	the License Form in the "Current Licenses" list.
>
>That's it. It won't "automatically" recognize and count the license on
>the SGI server -- you must access it manually -- but wotthehell, right?
>
>j.horen@rs.com

The question I have is whether you can have maker **automagically** access
another license server if there are no more licenses available on the primary
server.  That is, my department has 5 floating licenses on server A.  When
these are all in use, I can **manually** ask maker to get a license from
another department's server B.  How do I get maker to do this automatically?
It seems that the license server host is determined from an environment variable
set when maker starts.  I cannot find any mention of effecting this in any
Frame documentation.

-- 

Steve M. Burinsky
smb@afterlife.ncsc.mil
From: steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: FrameMaker license server question
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 05:57:42 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The GRAFex Company

franks@berlin.rtp.dg.com (Alan Franks) writes:

> >sloane@tss.com (Gary Sloane) writes:
]...[
 
> >This is not what Ruben asked. As I'm deeply interested in the answer,
> >too, I shall try to ask Ruben's question again:
> 
> >If you have floating licenses, and the license server --- the program that
> >counts the # of running licenses, and prevents you from starting
> >another one, if you reached the maximum # --- is hosted on a Sun, will it
> >recognize and count a license that is running on an SGI workstation?
> 
> >-Marc
> 
> The answer, I'm sorry to say, is *no*.  FrameMaker 2.x and 3.x will not allow
> to use licenses "across platforms."
]...[
Not true.  At my last employer we had FM running on IBM RS6000, Sun X and
Sunview, and DEC 5100, all using the same license server.  The trick is to
copy the env.* and autostart files from the server to the other computers.

steve

play: steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US 408.252.0578    work:harding@nas.nasa.gov
              A prince trapped in the body of a dirty old man.
From: graaff@dutiws.tudelft.nl (Hans de Graaff)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: frame and olvwm
Keywords: olvwm,virtual
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:23:16 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology

In article <l9qp6jINNs7u@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> dalbec@clavin.Eng.Sun.COM (Gabe Dalbec) writes:
>Does anyone know how to make frame behave properly under olvwm?  That is,
>so that it doesn't "stick" and follow you around to each virtual screen.

You don't say which version of frame you are using, but I guess it's
3.0OL, the OpenLook version. They just installed that version on our
machines here, and it doesn't seem to stick. Actually, it doesn't seem
to care about X much at all. It behaves like one of those SunView
application. ("The screen is mine, all mine. Mine, you hear!")

Anyway, Frame 3.0X works nicely, and also understands the virtual
desktop and other X-programs, so I guess I'll stick to that.

Hans
--


Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: fjk4i@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Frederick Joseph Keith)
Subject: Need Framemaker Resume Template
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 11:33:01 GMT


I'm in the process of putting together my resume, and I'd love
to see what others have done in the way of resume layout in
Frame.  From anyone who's willing, I'd love to have a MIF copy
of their resume mailed to me at the address below.

Thanks for your help!

"...after 11+ years in school, Joe looks for a job..."


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Internet: fjk4i@virginia.edu 
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: ask@sei.cmu.edu (Alan Koch)
Subject: Re: One text source for many docs
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:23:15 GMT


In article <1992Sep2.195510.8047@rosevax.rosemount.com>, bill@texan.rosemount.com (William Hawkins) writes:
|> Is there something in Frame that will allow multiple documents
|> to contain the same text, the way #include or import by reference
|> allow a graphic to be included, and track changes in the source?

No.

|> The problem comes from a fax message distribution problem.  I have
|> a committee with 15 members, none of whom are on the 'net :-(
|> So I made up 15 Fax Lead Sheets, one for each member.  The sheet
|> contains a Subject line and about 5 inches of text space.  I've
|> got them in a book, so one print command prints them all.  I'd
|> like to be able to fill in the subject line and text space from
|> a single file, so that they all get the same message.  If there's
|> more pages than the lead sheet, those are only printed once.  I
|> don't want to cut and paste to 15 lead sheets for each new message.

Ah, but you can do this by putting the entire Fax Coversheet (sans the
individuals' names and such, but including the subject line and text) on a
master page.  Then you have 15 pages which use the FAX Coversheet master page
(one for each member.)  This can be followed by normal pages with additional
text.

Simple!  (As long as you understand the use of tagged and untagged text
columns on Master Pages!)

ask@sei.cmu.edu

Alan S. Koch
Software Engineering Institute
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA  15213
From: robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: hypertext under frame?  Users?
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:18:16 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <SCHULTZ.92Aug29203513@halley.est.3m.com> schultz@halley.est.3m.com  
(John C. Schultz) writes:
> Someone at work recently pointed out that Frame 3.0 supports hypertext
> links.  Since then I have read the (very) brief manual and was looking
> for any user comments people can provide.
> 
> --
>    John C. Schultz   +1 (612) 733-4047   schultz@halley.serc.3m.com
>    How to include the taste of Glendronach in a multi-media system?

Frame hypertext links are very simple and limited, but they do permit one to click  
to move from page to page, in both the current document and other files. And they  
are very easy to use.

My main gripe with Frame's hypertext links is that there is no way to close a  
window (file) by clicking on a button in another window (unless one wishes to close  
ALL open files).

This means that if you use window 1 as a click-on menu, every time you click a menu  
item that opens to a page in Chapter A, yet another window is opened to Chapter A.  
So a bit of clicking around the menu to check out topics leaves the user with  
scores of open windows, many of them multiple copies of the same files. The user is  
required to close each of these windows manually, or else close everything all at  
once, including the menu.

But hey, links are included free with FrameMaker, so try them out! And who knows  
what additions there may be in 4.0?

I'd like to invite Frame to jump in here and tell us about the features we can  
expect in 4.0, but they never seem to participate in this newsgroup.

--
+================================+================================+
|         Rob Weinberg           |  Workstation publications tech |
|   Email : robertw@informix.com |        Graphic designer        |
|   Voice : 415-926-6754         |     <imagine your ad here>     |
+================================+================================+
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: paulb@meaddata.com (Paul Bowden)
Subject: Re: Bug with fill in graphics mode?
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:29:26 GMT
Distribution: comp.text.frame, bnr.text.frame

In article <1992Aug12.193212.11543@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, bam@bnr.ca (Bruce Matsugu 1629654) writes:
|> 
|> My observation:
|> 
|> From the "Tools" menu, I picked the "arc" and drew a quarter-circle 
|> in top-right quadrant form.  Then I picked a fill pattern, and only
|> part of the quarter-circle was filled.  When I did a "flip u/d", the
|> fill pattern was okay.
|> 
|> Have other people experienced this problem with the "fill" operation?
|>

I could not duplicate your problem (I'm on a Sun IPC running Xframe3.1).
 
|> ---
|> Bruce Matsugu   --- my submissions are my opinions; BNR and NT are innocent!
|> Bell Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
|> ---
|> 

-- 
-- This is the personal opinion of: Paul Bowden @ Mead Data Central, Dayton, OH --
-- PKB x5386                        paulb@meaddata.com ...!uunet!meaddata!paulb --
From: shimeall@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (timothy shimeall)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: One text source for many docs
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:07:17 GMT
Reply-To: shimeall@cs.nps.navy.mil (timothy shimeall)
Distribution: na
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

In article <1992Sep2.195510.8047@rosevax.rosemount.com> bill@texan.rosemount.com (William Hawkins) writes:
>Is there something in Frame that will allow multiple documents
>to contain the same text, the way #include or import by reference
>allow a graphic to be included, and track changes in the source?

Yes: The key word is "reference" as in "cross reference".  You can
establish "paratext" cross references between files, and "update" them
to ensure that the latest changes have been tracked.  It's not quite
automatic, but it does allow sharing of text.  The text can even be presented
in different format than in the original.
				Tim
-- 
Tim Shimeall ((408) 646-2509)
The proper response to detecting a bug isn't to fix the bug - it's to make 
sure you'll never have to worry about that bug again.  --- Richard Hamming
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: tina@csi.on.ca (Tina Klein)
Subject: conditional and text flow when the doc versions have different page lengths
Organization: Carp Systems International, Kanata, ON
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:11:30 GMT

Hi again,

Summary of findings with conditional text flow problem...

Fortunately, the problem I was having seems independent of the hypertext.

Thanks to Dave Cortesi who recognized frozen pagination.  No I didn't freeze
it and No it wasn't menu-flagged as frozen, 
BUT, when I went through the motions of freezing and unfreezing (thawing?)
pagination, the missing n pages came back intact and the n spare disconnected
pages were appended to the end of the document.

Whew.


-- 
Tina Klein, Technical Writer           CAnet: tina@csi.on.ca
CSI, 600 Terry Fox Drive - Suite 200   Phone: (613) 592-5780
Kanata, Ontario, Canada K2L 4B6        Fax:   (613) 592-0584
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: schultz@halley.est.3m.com (John C. Schultz)
Subject: Re: Mailing Labels using Frame
In-reply-to: rtp@iconoclast.West.Sun.COM's message of 12 Aug 92 18:15:04 GMT
Organization: 3M Company, 3M Center, Minnesota, USA
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 17:57:04 GMT

I have seen label generating programs on the net before - check with ARCHIE.
These are not FRAME compatible however but may help with the first
step below.

My solution for FRAME is not completely automatic but it works.

Given a mailing list which is generally one address per line, write a
program or use emacs to parse the list into the usable 
	name
	address
	city, state, zip

with some care to account for 4 and 5 line addresses such as looking
for a comma delimiter.

Once in this form, make up a FRAME template which maps onto sticky
labels that you can feed through a laser printer.  Connect textrects so
the text flow from one to the next and then import the formatted file
made up previously.  Some hand editing is still required but not much.

Works for me as long as I don't have to update too often.  Plus you
can use any X by Y label paper you can find since you do the textrects
by hand. (It takes a coupld tries to get things matched up - the
rulers along the side of the page are not accurate.)
--
   John C. Schultz   +1 (612) 733-4047   schultz@halley.serc.3m.com
   How to include the taste of Glendronach in a multi-media system?
From: smr@hitkw14.pki-nbg.philips.de (S.Riehm)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Changing printers - for all documents
Date: 31 Aug 92 08:25:57 GMT

We have recently installed some new printers in our department, and I
now don't have to run up and down two flights of stairs to collect my
printouts, however, the default printer is always the name of the old
printer, not the name of the new one.

We have set the PRINTER and LPDEST environment variables, but
framemaker seems to ignore them, is there a simple way to make
framemaker realise that you don't want to use the old printer, but
instead the new one that is only a few feet away from your desk would
be a lot more convenient.

thanks in advance

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From: jameison@orion.sybase.com (Jameison Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Programming function keys
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:50:17 GMT
Reply-To: user@machine.domain
Organization: UC Berkeley XRN Design Team

In article <1992Aug26.191705.980@evb.com>, mahesh@evb.com (B.G. Mahesh) writes:
|> 
|> Would like to program the function keys to do things like,
|> 
|> save, import, bold, italic...
|> 
|> I thought I could save a lot of time if I could get one of
|> those configuration files from the net and change it to meet
|> my requirements. Please respond by email.
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> 
|> B.G. Mahesh
|> mahesh@evb.com

These are taken from kbmaps from $FMHOME/.fminit2.0/kbmap:

        F1      F2       F3      F4      F5    
shift   Plain   Bold    Italic  Underl  Strike


<\A +/F1 : \x263 >      SetCharactersToPlain
<\A +/F2 : \x260 >      SetCharactersToBold
<\A +/F3 : \x261 >      SetCharactersToItalic
<   +/F4 : \x262 >      SetCharactersToUnderline
<   +/F5 : \x26c >      SetCharactersToStrikeThrough

You can put a .fminit in your home directory and set the
keys as you like them.  See the Frame Reference for
more information on customizing you environment.