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From: ah724@yfn.ysu.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Subject: Re: Thiruppaavai Verse 29
Reply-To: ah724@yfn.ysu.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 05:53:02 GMT


In a previous article, srin@cs.cornell.edu (Aravind Srinivasan) says:

>
>I am posting this on behalf of 
>Dr. K. Srinivasan (srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca).
>
>Regards,
>Aravind.
>
>===================================================================
>
>\height=660 \width=460 \leftmargin=10 \C
>\(TAMIL20) 29. raagam: saavEri
>\beginbox
>sitram siRu kaalE vandhu unnai sEviththu un 
>potraamarai adiyE pOtrum poruL kELaay
>petram mEyththu uNNum kulaththil piRandhu nee
>kutru Eval engaLai(k) koLLaamal pOgaadhu
>itrai(p) paRai koLvaan anRu kaaN gOvindhaa
>etraikkum Ezh Ezh piRavikkum un thannOdu
>utrOmE aavOm umakkE naam aatcheyvOm
              ^^^^^^
 A typo here. It is `unakkE'.

>matrai nam kaamangaL maatrElOr embaavaay
>\endbox
>
>\c \J
>Govindha!, Listen (kELaay) to the reason (poruL) for our coming (vandhu) and
>worshipping (sEviththu) you and praising (pOtrum) your golden lotus (pon
>thaamarai) feet (adi) at such an early hour (sitram siRu kaalE). You (nee),
                                                          ^^^^^
  Is `kaalam' a Tamil word? It is in Sanskrit also. The word `kaalan'
 meaning `eman' is related to `kaalam'. Basically, in Hindu mythology,
 Yama arrives at the time of death with his `paasak kayiRu'. I think
 `samay' in Vedic mythology stands for `time'. The Mahabharat T.V.
 serial starts with `samay'. [ `samayam' and `kaalam' mean `time'.
 Now `samayam' is "misused" to mean `religion'. ]
 
>who were born (piRandhu) in the community of people (kulaththil), who eat
>(uNNum) by rearing (mEyththu) cattle (petram), should not go away (pOgaadhu)
>refusing our (engalai) offerings (kutru Eval). Look (kaaN), we are not (anRu)
               ^^^^^^^^
  A typo here. It is `engaLai'.

>desiring your grace (paRai koLvaan) just for today (itrai). Forever
>(etraikkum), for sevens (Ezh Ezh) of births (piRavikkum), we will be (aavOm)
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  I have read this in ThirukkuRaL also. [ `ezhu piRappu' ]. What are these
 seven births ? Is it from Jainism ?

>in peace (utrOmE) with you (un thannOdu). We (naam) will let ourselves be
>ruled (aatcheyvOm)  by you (umakkE). Please remove (maatru) our (nam) other
                            ^^^^^^^^         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

   I know that the word `maatraan' means `enemy' or a `person with a 
 different faith'. I don't know how the meaning `enemy' come from
 `maatru' meaning `change' or `remove'.

>(matrai) desires (kaamangaL).
>\j
>

-- 
sundara pandian
ah724@yfn.ysu.edu
From: chitoor@dori.cis.udel.edu (Srikrishnan R. Chitoor)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: directory of tamil students
Date: 10 Jan 93 17:05:50 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.tamil
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark

In article <1ipk0vINNbis@aludra.usc.edu> chviswan@aludra.usc.edu (Chandrasekar Viswanathan) writes:
>Hi,
>  I think it would be useful if we create a sort of directory having the names,
>e-mail,and such information of the tamil students who read this newsgroup.
>You could send your names,e-mail and any info you want to include, to me, by 
>e-mail and I could collect them and post them in soc.culture.tamil.This would 
>help us in getting a lot of new friends throughout the world.
>We could even coin a name similar to pen friends.Any suggestions?(maybe 
>net friends)
>My e-mail address is cviswana@aludra.usc.edu
>
>Chandrasekar Viswanathan
>P.S. I am asking for tamil students only because if I ask for Indian students,

It is a good Idea. There may be a lot of `invisible' tamil students
(who read, but do not post to the net) and thus it may not be practical for
a single person to collect all the addresses. May be we can divide the US 
(world?) into regions and assign a single volunteer for each region.
    This way we can hope to get results pretty fast.

-Krishna.
Opinions are mine.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: apadmana@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Taxi Driver)
Subject: Re : KINDAL VARIKAL
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:45:34 GMT


Thangath thamizha

Kindal varikal thodaruthu ingE

	KAlangalil avall vasantham
	Kapikalil aval FOLGERS
	mAthangalil aval mArkazhi
	sAthangalil aval BIRIYANI

ANANDU
-- 

Ananda Padmanabhan                    
______________________________________________________________________________
					|
From: desikan@bucknell.edu (sridhar desikan GR)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: Innumoru kavidhai
Date: 6 Jan 1993 22:07:44 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
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In article <YfGk_qq00XsFJaTI1l@andrew.cmu.edu>, gb29+@andrew.cmu.edu (Guntur N Balaji) writes:
|> 
|> vidikAlai Aru mani
|> netriyil thiru neerum
|> vAyil siva purAnamumAi
|> theruvil sivanAda gurukkuL
|> thinnaiyOra poonai sonnadhu
|> than kuttiyidam
|> "veLiyE ippa pOgAdhe,
|> otthai brAhmanar varugirAr !"
|

 
|> Hope you liked it
|> Regards,


Yah, please continue with some more ...

 
|> Balaji/...


desikan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: krashok@mse.ogi.edu (Ashok Krishnamurthy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re:Eve-teasing.etc.
Date: 8 Jan 93 00:58:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.48212
Distribution: world
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute, Material Science & Engineering

Hai netters,

Seems like I spoke(wrote) too soon. From the acrimonious
debate going on reg. eve-teasing in SCT, we seem to be
emulating SCI(reminds me of the verbal duels between
Deepak Bose & Mustafa,Vijay Fafat & Mustafa,etc.etc.)
(In an ealier posting, I had expressed the view that the 
quality of articles in SCT was substantially better than 
that of SCI - at least, when we come to the terminal after 
a tiring day, one gets to see interesting articles on SCT
and not degenerate trash as in SCI.)

Why don't we dispense with this "personal" verbiage,eh?
Someone said:
           
              The best kind of people discuss ideas;
              The medium kind discuss events;and
              The worst kind discuss other people.

If more of ideas are discussed and exchanged, I think we can
all rectify our wrongly-held beliefs,attitudes and opinions. 

Ashok Krishnamurthy,
Dept. of MS & E,
OGI,Oregon,USA.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,alt.culture.karnataka,alt.culture.kerala
From: selvakum@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (C.R.Selvakumar - Electrical Engineering)
Subject: Re: 'izhi' in thiruppaavai 22
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:23:37 GMT

In article <C0G0tG.C3o@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (K.Srinivasan) writes:
>'izhi-ndhEl' is translated as 'please remove/get rid off'.
>However in Modern Tamil izhi /izhivu  means 'demeaning'.
>
>In today's kannada (iLi) and malayaLam (izhi) it is used to mean
>'descend/get off' (irangu). A word very commonly heard in busses in Karnataka.
>In Tamil that sounds like 'iLi' (smile showing all teeth), probably
>that is why it has gone out of usage in Tamil.

      In Tamil too 'izhi' means 'to go down'; 'izhi_vazhakku' means
      'lowly practice'; the verb 'izha' is to lose..
      'izhiththal' means 'thaazhththuthal', 'iRakkuthal';
      'izhipaadu' means 'great disgrace'
      'izhibu' can mean 'thaazhvu', 'paLLam ( = pit)';
      'izhipunal' means 'malaiyil irundhu vizhum nIr, aruvi' ( meaning
                         of iRangu..)
       There are too many words ( more than 50 ) in this line ..

      However in Tamil 'iLi' means 'isaivu koL'  ( = to go in consonance)
      ( this has degenerated
     to mean meekly accept and hence 'smile showing all teeth' as you
      have rightly observed..)

      In music the 'pa' or 'panchamam' is long known in Tamil as
      'iLi' since it resonates with 'sa' ( in Tamil 'kuaral' ).
>
>izhi/irakku also means extract/remove/get rid off as in 'mudi irakku'
> (getting head(mudi) shaved off in temples)
>
>There are a number of such words in thiruppaavai, whose meaning appear
>to have changed in modern Tamil, but retained in other south indian
>languages. If there is any interest, I can list them some time.
>
>K. Srinivasan at Hydro Quebec.
>

        - Selva
From: sl9z5@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re:Few tamil film songs and RAga resemblance.
Date: 4 Jan 93 11:49:00 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

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From: vaidhyan@ecn.purdue.edu (Ramesh Vaidhyanathan)
Subject: Re: Women in Popular Tamil Magazines
Reply-To: vaidhyan@cn.ecn.purdue.edu
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:06:46 GMT

Hello SSP:

I would also like to suggest that, you give the titles
"Women in Popular Tamil Magazines - Part X" instead of
using "Re: Women in Popular Tamil Magazines". The title
"Re:" generally refers to discussions on a topic.

Thanks for posting this good series of articles and I
hope that sensible discussions will follow in SCT on
this topic.

Anbudan,

-Ramesh Vaidhyanathan.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Meaning of song in Roja
From: smuthu@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 9 Jan 93 11:26:09 CST
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
NNTP-Posting-Host: vax1.umkc.edu

Hi netters,
I heard the following line in a song (Chinna chinna aasai) in the film Roja. 
 	"Chitthiraikku mele selai katta aasai"
Can someone kindly explain me the meaning of this line? Thanks in advance.

--Senthilkumar
From: shivanan@nyquist.usc.edu (Shivanand Bhajekar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: stop your lousy crosspostings
Date: 10 Jan 1993 14:47:24 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: nyquist.usc.edu

Posted for FFT:

In article <19565.2b4f0391@ecs.umass.edu> vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu writes:
>
>About cross-posting of SCTamil article in SCIndia, someone writes:
>
>> Would you stop crossposting all ravings to sci? You have your group....
>> The group was formed with the purpose of restricting stuff which of
>> interest to a limited class people. 
>
>This reader's request makes sense.  However, one should consider the
>fact that not all USENET sites  receive SCTamil.  For the benefit of
>the readers of Tamil stuff, SCIndia may be used to carry those posts.
>After all Tamil is an Indian language, ain't it?
>
>SCTamil is also in  the receiving end sometimes.  Current hot topics
>in SCTamil are, Indo-China issue and Mustafa.
>
>Vicky:
>UMass, Jan 09


	First about the receiving end. If sct continues to ignore the
	call for stoppage of irrelevant crosspostings to sci, such 
	"Indo-china" issues would keep flooding sct [afterall, by your
	own admission, Tamil is also Indian, no? :)]
	Second, the primary agenda when sct was formed was to have a 
	separate forum where Tamilians could carry on their own
	discussions. If, after the formation, you still crosspost to sci
	with the excuse that it's not available everywhere, heck, why not
	just dissolve sct and carry on on sci?? 

	Mustafa will continue to be a part of Tamil culture as long as aNdaaL
	is foisted down sci's throat :)

	FFT
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: an5050@anon.penet.fi
Subject: stop your lousy crosspostings
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.tamil
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 02:19:46 GMT

Would you stop crossposting all ravings to sci? You have your group,
keep doing the thiruppilaiamma here. The group was formed with the 
purpose of restricting stuff which of interest to a limited class  
people. Mr. Sundara Pandian and others know about this. Stop the crossposting
else I'm going to post all kind of junk on this group. And mind you, they'll
be from different a/cs. 

fed up of thirru,
allah-hoon-akbar


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From: ah724@yfn.ysu.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Subject: Re: Thiruppaavai Verse 23
Reply-To: ah724@yfn.ysu.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:04:57 GMT


In a previous article, srin@cs.cornell.edu (Aravind Srinivasan) says:

>\height=660 \width=460 \leftmargin=10 \C
>\(TAMIL40) 23. raagam: aarabi
>\beginbox
>maari malai muzhainchil manni(k) kidandhu uRangum
>seeriya singam aRivutru(th) thee vizhiththu
>vEri mayir ponga veppaadum pErndhu udhaRi
                 ^^^^^^^^^^
 A typo here. It is `eppaadum'.
 
>moori nimirndhu muzhangi(p) puRappattu(p)
>pOdharumaa pOlE nee poovaippoo vaNNaa un
>kOyil ninRu inganE pOndharuLi(k) kOppudaiya
            ^^^^^^^ 

 May be a typo. I think the Tamil word is `iNGNGanE'. 

>seeriya singaasanaththu irundhu yaam vandha
>kaariyam aaraayndhu aruLElOr embaavaay
>\endbox
>\(ROMAN)
>\c \J
>Like (pOlE) a brave (seeriya) lion (singam) lying (manni kidandhu) and
> sleeping (uRangu) inside a mountain (malai) cave (muzhainchu) comes to
> senses (aRivutru), starts (puRapaatu) and comes out (pOdharum) during rainy
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^
  Typo. It is `puRappattu'.

> (maari) season, opening his firey (thee) eyes (vizhi), shaking (ponga) his
                              ^^^^^
  Typo. It is `fiery'. 

>mane (vEri mayir), bending (pErndhu) his body on all sides (eppaadum),
>shaking (udhaRi) and stretching the body to get it into shape (moori),
>standing erect (nimirndhu), and roaring (muzhangi), You (nee) please come
>out (pOndhu). You, who has the color (vaNNaa) of the bilberry (poovai)
>flower (poo), will you please sit (irundhu) on top of the  great (seeriya)
>throne (singaasanam) and examine (aaraayndhu) the purpose (kaariyam) of our
>(yaam) coming (vandha) to your (un) decorated (kOppudaiya) temple (kOyil),
                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

   I think there is a temple called `koppudaiyamman kOyil' in
Karaikkudi, Tamil Nadu. Is the deity's name originally `kOppudaiya amman' ?

>and having come (pOndhu), our standing (ninRu) this way (inganE), and bless
>us (aruLElOr).
>\j


-- 
sundara pandian
ah724@yfn.ysu.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: an5050@anon.penet.fi
Subject: some more??
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.tamil
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 04:09:53 GMT

writes:
> >>In article 72451, Tingli Pan (utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu) wrote:
> >>
> >>>I always think it is not a strategic way to put a name to the
> >>>opponents, as the other side can do the same easily. For example, if A
> >>>calls B as KMT's running dog, then B can easily call back A as CCP's
> >>>running dog. Both sides can manipulate the definition conviniently to suit
> >>>their own requirment. That is what we've seen recently. It is fun for
> >>>the bystanders, but for A and B, well, at least they practise their
> >>>English writing.
> I hope you can find more than my english to laugh at. 
> I normally do not take a second look at what I wrote, I have to rush through 
> SCC only able to respond to limited thread that I like to respond.

I always find a lot in your articles to laugh at, not your English.

Hahaha...!

Carl


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From: "Meenakshi S Murali" <p00239@psilink.com>
Subject: On Ragas
Organization: Complete Business Solutions Inc.,
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:24:36 GMT
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This an introduction to the theory in carnatic music.

The total number of notes on an octave is 16.  There are two other school
of thought, one which says, 12 notes are good enough and the other wants 
to fine tune it down to 22 notes.  In fact, most of the schools practices
only 12 notes.
Western octave is equally tembered.  Indian music is based on harmonics.
The table below would explain that.

sa	- shadjam
ri1	- sudhdha rishabam - 16/15 of sa
ri2	- chathusruthi rishabam - 9/8 of sa
ri3	- shatsruthi rishabham -   32/27 of sa
ga1 	- sudhdha gantharam - 9/8 of sa
ga2	- sAdharana gandharam - 6/5 of sa
ga3 	- antara gandharam - 5/4 of sa
ma1 	- sudhdha mathyamam - 4/3 of sa
ma2 	- prathi mathyamam - 45/32 of sa
pa 	- panchamam	- 3/2 of sa
tha1 	- sudhdha thaivatham - 8/5 of sa
tha2	- chatusruthi thaivatham - 27/16 of sa
tha3	- shatsruthi thaivatham - 16/9 of sa
ni1	- sudhdha nishadham - 27/16 of sa
ni2	- kaisiki nishadham - 15/8 of sa
ni3	- kakali nishadham - 243/128 of sa
sa	- shadjam - 2 times

From this venkatamahi constructed the symmetrical mElakarta.  That defined
the principal ragas that are 72 (a permutation of 7 swaras 22 with one sa,
one from 3 ri's, one from 3ga's, one from 2ma's, a pa, one from 3tha's,
and one from 3 ni's - assuming 12 note school - 1x3x2x2x1x3x2 = 72.
These are symmetrical.  ArogaNam and avarOgaNam are same.

I will post more details about the ragams shortly.

One interesting, becasue of our music being based on harmonic, when notes
are struck, we get secondary frequencey generated which are also harmonic.
we donot hear the beat frequency unlike the western rendering.

more in next posting

M.Murali

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: asriniva@vela.acs.oakland.edu (MONK)
Subject: KINDAL VARIGAL
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 00:04:40 GMT

Inn oru kindal vari
       
      "	mEdayai pOla vaazhkai alla! Therdhal mudinthadum vilagi chella !
	Arasialai pOla uRavum alla! katcHiKal maaRiye payaNam chella! "


    From " manRam vantha thenRalukku...."
-- 
_________________________________________________________________________
athi			
_________________________________________________________________________
From: elee6eg@rosie.uh.edu (S.SANJAY GOPAL)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Attn: Greater Houston area residents
Date: 11 Jan 1993 22:51 CST
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	For interested netters:

		Bharathi Kalai Manram (BKM) of Houston
	have scheduled a screening of the musical hit ROJA
	on the 16th at 3:30 PM at the Plitz theater on
	High Way 6 (a couple of miles south of the
	crossing of I-10 and Highway 6).

		anbudan
		sanjay

	email: sanjay@bayes.ee.uh.edu
	


Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: ah724@yfn.ysu.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Subject: Re: Thiruppaavai Verse 28
Reply-To: ah724@yfn.ysu.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:31:46 GMT


In a previous article, srin@cs.cornell.edu (Aravind Srinivasan) says:

>
>I am posting this on behalf of 
>Dr. K. Srinivasan (srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca).
>
>Regards,
>Aravind.
>
>===================================================================
>
>\height=660 \width=460 \leftmargin=10 \C
>\(TAMIL20) 28. raagam: kaambOdhi
>\beginbox
>kaRavaigaL pin senRu kaanan sErndhu uNbOm
                      ^^^^^^
 A typo here. It is `kaanam'.  [ `kaanam' is a derived
word from `kaanakam' meaning `forest'. Another meaning 
of `kaanam' is `song'. ]

>aRivu onRum illaadha aay(k) kulaththu undhannai(p)
>piRavi peRundhanai(p) puNNiyam naam udaiyOm
                                ^^^^

 A typo here. It is `yaam'.
 
>kuRai onRum illaadha gOvindhaa undhannOdu
>uRavEl namakku ingu ozhikka ozhiyaadhu
>aRiyaadha piLLaigaLOm anbinaal undhannai
>siRu pEr azhaiththanamum seeRi aruLaadhE
>iRaivaa nee thaaraay paRaiyElOr embaavaay
>\endbox
>
>\c \J
>Following (pin senRu) the cows (kaRavai), after reaching (sErndhu) the forest
>(kaanan), we will eat (uNbOm). We, of the cowherd community (aay kulam)
 ^^^^^^^
 Same typo as above.

>without (illaadha) any (onRum) enlightenment (aRivu); what good deeds
>(puNNiyam) do we (naam) claim to our credit (udaiyOm) for having (peRundhanai)
                   ^^^^^
 Same typo as pointed earlier.

>you (undhannai) born (piRavi) in our community? If we have no relation to you
>(uRavEl), we (namakku) will not beable (ozhiyaadhu) to bear (ozhikka) it here
                                 ^^^^^^^
 Typo here. A space missing. That is, these are two words `be able'.

>(ingu). We, the innocent (aRiyaadha) children (piLLai) call (azhai) you
>(unnai) using your short (siRu) names (pEr) out of affection (anbinaal).
>Please do not be angry (seeRi aruLaadhE). Oh Lord (iRaivaa)! Please grant us
>(thaaraay) our wishes (paRai).
>\j
>

-- 
sundara pandian
ah724@yfn.ysu.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
From: ah724@yfn.ysu.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Subject: Kuram Narayana on Tamil kings
Reply-To: ah724@yfn.ysu.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:11:35 GMT
Expires: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 05:00:00 GMT


In a previous article, narayana@oracorp.com (K. T. Narayana) says:

>A.L. Bhasham in his book "Wonder that India was" writes
>that the aboriginal Tamils of the Pandya, Chera, and Chola 
>regions were fierce warriors, and they used to fight wars
>among themselves out of hatred for one another. The author
>specifically mentions that after each war these people 
>used to conduct "cannibalistic festivals" to celebrate
>victories. There is an edict of emperor Ashoka that he
>brought righteousness to the Pandya, Chera, and Chola 
>country.
>
>What are these cannibalistic festivals? Were there any
>Tantric rituals that these cannibals used to practice
>in those rituals. Are there any pointers to the exact
>ritual (the sources and their authentic translations,
>preferably not the Tamil scholars).
>
>...kt
>

--
From: elee6eg@rosie.uh.edu (S.SANJAY GOPAL)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: thEngai, maangai, pattaNi, kindal....
Date: 11 Jan 1993 22:44 CST
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In article <48336@ogicse.ogi.edu>, kanth@ogicse.cse.ogi.edu (Meenakshi Srikanth) writes...
>Kindal varigaL !! en kaalaNak kaduthaasi!!
> 
>--------------------
> 
>Reference : Kamal's dialogue in "kaNmaNi, anbodu kaathalan.."(GuNa)
> 
> 
>	" hmm...enakku vara vEndiya bussu adhu enna ezhavO theriyala,
> vandhu tholaikka maatEngudhu!

	**stuff deleted**

>	" hmmm.... idhu vayatherichal...en vayatherichal ennannu
>ninaikka ninaikka vaazhkai veRuthu varuthu, aanaa naan vazhkai
>veRuthu, adhanaala avanukku santhOshamaaiyitta nnu ninaichaa...
>vara veRuppum ninnuduthu....
>

	hmnm!! thats very original! keep up the good work!

	kodi parakattum!!

>	  manithargaL uNarnthu koLLa idhu manidha vayatherichal alla!!
> 
>	  adhaiyum thaandi kodumaiyaanathu!!!"
> 
>Srikanth Meenkashisundaram.
> 
>	

anbudan
sanjay



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From: mgmsw@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (! M.Goutham )
Subject: Re: MADRAS BOOK FAIR TOTALLY BURNT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:18:02 GMT

It was very sad to read about the mishap about the MBF. It is especially
so for me since I was the Officer in Charge for 8th to the 11th Madras
Book Fairs.

The MBF was always a great place for book lovers and hordes of people
would come to just browse through the fantastic collections there. After
the "accidental" burning down of the Moore MArket, the MBF was always looked
forward to in great enthusiasm by readers who wanted to get hold of rare books.

I wish a thorough investigation is done and prove that it was accidental since
in my years of work there things were hotting up between groups aspiring for
power and at times to save money .. some security procedures were avoided !!

It will be nice if someone can post the developments of the tragic incident.

I wish my friends at Affiliatted East West press, OUP, Cre-A, Motilal, And others
are safe... Wish them strength to overcome this loss.

M. GOUTHAM
mgmsw@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu


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