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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: ABS FJ1200
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:35:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059

-> months back, I haven't heard a peep about it lately. Has anyone
-> bought the '92 (US) or '91 (Europe) FJ1200 with the anti-lock brakes
-> option?

 The FJ down at the local Yamaha shop says '92 on the tag, but the thing
looks like it has the plain old wimpy FZR brakes they Frankensteined
onto it a few years ago.  Why anyone would want those wimp stoppers
instead of the original FJ radially-vented rotors is beyond me.  Maybe
the FZR-look stuff is cheaper to make.


-> one anywhere? Do they actually exist? Or was it a publicity stunt by
-> Yamaha? :-)

 If they exist, I'm still unconvinced ABS is worth much on a
two-wheeler.  Did you catch the flamefest in BIX'
technology/transportation topic a few months ago?

 Grab a big handful of brake in a corner, and you're going DOWN, ABS or
not.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: RE: TEST, PLEASE IGNORE.
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:21:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059

-> When are insurance companies going to give us a discount for wearing
-> helmets?  For goodness sake, I would have thought that any state
-> enacting a helmet law would force an immediate and substantial drop
-> in motorcycle insurance rates because it's so much "safer" for
-> everbody to wear one.

 I dunno... I've never seen an insurance company lower their rates.
Cars got mandatory impact bumpers - rates went up to cover replacement
costs.  Cars got airbags - rates went up to cover replacement costs.  My
state passed a mandatory insurance law.  Rates went up 800%.  My state
finally repealed its idiotic "crash bar" law for motorcycles, so they
didn't flip end over end any more when they went down.  Rates went up.
I got married.  My rate went up.  Seven years with no tickets.  Can you
guess?  Over 30.  Guess?
From: aj@sri.com (aj)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Ninja 900 Tires
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:06:59 GMT
Distribution: usa

I have a Ninja 900 and the tires are just about gone. I just purchased the bike
so I don't know much about what kind of tires to replace the ones that are on
it with, nor do I know how wide of tires I should put on the bike (or even if I
should go up in width). Any advice would be most appreciated.
aj
From: davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Lester Wheels/tubeless tires
Keywords: tires, wheels, bmw
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:08:51 GMT
Organization: Tektronix - Colorado Data Systems, Englewood, CO

In article <491@kluge.fiu.edu> berkt@scs.fiu.edu (Toby Berk) writes:
>My wife recently bought a used '78 BMW R80 that came with Lester cast wheels
>and tubes in the tires.  The dealer tells me that we can mount tubless tires
>on the Lesters (after adding valve stems, of course), but I'm a suspicious 
>type.
>
>Does anyone know if this is OK to do?  If so, is there any risk in removing
>the tubes and remounting the same tires tubeless?  (I'm trying to avoid
>carrying two spare tubes this summer)

***** DANGER *****
Just say no.  The rim shape on the Lesters will not retain the bead of a
tubeless tire in the event of a flat.  *Regardless* of the ability of
the wheel to retain air, the shape of the rim is the determining
factor.

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| Dave Tharp                      | Dod #0751   | "You can't wear out       |
| davet@loowit.WR.TEK.COM         | MRA #151    |   an Indian Scout,        |
| '88 K75S  '48 Indian Chief      | AHRMA #751  |  Or its brother the Chief.|
| '75 R90S(#151) '68 CB450(#751)  | AMA #524737 |  They're built like rocks |
| '65 R50/2/Velorex  '57 NSU Max  |             |   to take the knocks,     |
|                                 | (Compulsive | It's the Harleys that     |
| My employer has no idea.        |   Joiner)   |   give you grief."        |
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From: moseley@milton.u.washington.edu (Steve Moseley)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Jump start with car? DONT DO IT !!!!!!
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:25:50 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <kumkrbINN894@male.EBay.Sun.COM> mel@derringer.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
>The difference is your Ford is expecting 70-90 amps. and your poor bike is not.......

The current (amps) depends of the load, not the voltage source. Your poor
bike will get only as many amps as it is "expecting", no matter what the
source. 13.6 volts is 13.6 volts. You probably wouldn't want to try jump
starting the Ford with your bike, because the car will suck more current
than your bike's system can provide, but it will try, and burn itself up
in the process. I don't see any problem in jump starting a bike with a car
vs. jump starting it with any other source.

 - Steve
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
                                                                                                                      
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: randy%rdr.com@uu.psi.com (Randy Tidd)
Subject: Newbie wants info
Reply-To: randy%rdr.com@uu.psi.com (Randy Tidd)
Organization: RDR, Inc.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 00:18:14 GMT


Before I even ask these questions, I'd like to know if re's an FAQ and if  
there is, where I can get it.

I'm looking into getting my first motorcycle (I say this every spring) and  
need all the advise you'd expect; Where's a good place to learn how to  
ride on the street?  Should I take one of those safety classes? What  
should I look for in a cheap (< $1000) first bike?

Thanks for any and all info!

Randy
randy@rdr.com
From: jbarker@jbarker.cc.vt.edu (John Barker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: 67 Triumph 650 Tiger FOR SALE
Keywords: Triumph FOR SALE
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:15:14 GMT

My father has a 1967 Triumph 650 Tiger for sale.	
It is excellent condition and has always been garage kept.
It is all original and only has around 8K miles (no kidding).
He is hoping to get around $3,500.00 for it.

John Barker
Blacksburg, Va.
	
e-mail  jbarker@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu
phone   (w) 703 231-9525
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: shelly@Atex.Kodak.COM (Shelly Simon)
Subject: Mail-Order advice 
Reply-To: shelly@Atex.Kodak.COM
Organization: "Atex, Inc. Billerica, MA "
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:06:23 GMT

Hello Netters,

I'm in the market for a helmet (Shoei RF200) and I've decided to try going
mail order.  I'm looking for any information or concerns I should know about
before buying via mail order. Also, if anyone has had any direct experiences,
good or bad, in dealing with mail order companies, this info would also be
helpful.  Please reply directly to pauls@ftp.com or the address below.

Thanks

-- 
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Shelley Sarrategui (Simon)                      <shelly@Atex.Kodak.COM>
Atex, Inc. 					508-670-4016 
805 Middlesex Turnpike Billerica, MA 01821    	508-670-4033 (Fax)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Jump start with car? DONT DO IT !!!!!!
From: ham!emd@oneb.wimsey.bc.ca
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 18:25:02 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Mid Island Ham Network

moseley@milton.u.washington.edu (Steve Moseley) writes:

> In article <kumkrbINN894@male.EBay.Sun.COM> mel@derringer.EBay.Sun.COM writes
> >The difference is your Ford is expecting 70-90 amps. and your poor bike is n
> 
> The current (amps) depends of the load, not the voltage source. Your poor
> bike will get only as many amps as it is "expecting", no matter what the
> source. 13.6 volts is 13.6 volts. You probably wouldn't want to try jump
> starting the Ford with your bike, because the car will suck more current
> than your bike's system can provide, but it will try, and burn itself up
> in the process. I don't see any problem in jump starting a bike with a car
> vs. jump starting it with any other source.

Not so fast, Steve. Current depends on both the amount of electromotive 
force available to push the current down the wire (This is measured in 
volts) and the electrical resistance offered mainly by the load - usually
a light, motor, etc and partly by the resistance in the wire circuit 
connecting the voltage source to the load, including connectors, 
switches, etc. This is usually expressed by the Ohm's Law formula E=IR, 
where E is voltage, I is current in amperes and R is resistance in ohms. 
This can also be expressed as I =E/R.

You weren't entirely incorrect, though. There is little difference 
to the bike whether you connect it to a bike battery or a car battery, 
except that the car battery can supply current for a much longer time. 
(Naturally, this assumes the car engine is OFF). There may be a 
signifigant difference to the bike battery, though, if you suddenly start 
to charge it at a very high rate by having it connected in parallel with 
a car battery. It's certainly safer to re-charge the battery in the bike.


Robert Smits Nanaimo BC    | I don't wanna pickle,
ham!emd@oneb.wimsey.bc.ca  | just wanna ride my motorsickle - AG
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: pbh@jake.cc.wayne.edu (Patrick Haggood)
Subject: Re: What to call a harley
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 13:10:21 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.225736.8454@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>bdhepler@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Brad D. Hepler) writes:
>>david@hawkesbury.uws.EDU.AU (David Watkin) writes:
>>First I find out that
>>the Japanese can mine steel, and now I find out that they can mine
>>entire MOTORCYCLES.
>
>This of course explains the collapse of the American motorcycle
>industry. The domestic motorcycle mines were depleted, leaving only a
>single low-volume mine somewhere in the wilds of Wisconsin.
>-- 
That tears it!  I'm writing my congresspern!  What say ye people?!?
It's about time we started a conservation group for Harleys!  We can go
around shooting Harleyfolk from helicopters with dart guns and putting 
radio tags around their necks.  Then, we can track their migrations and
gather more data to help in conservation.  Perhaps we could raise funds
(sell DoD merchantabeliakeepsakes?) and build large preserves in
Wisconsin or SoCal.  Think about it; would you want your child to grow
up in a world where the Harley didn't exist in the wild?  They too
should have the opportunity to not hear themselves think when one of
those majestic beasts roars down the street.  The teethgrinding
experience of Harleyfolk relating how the design of the bike came down
from Mount, er, Ranier (Olympus?  It ain't in America) and bettered life
for all (PC)kind.  "Save Our Harleys" can be our battle cry!  When
special interest groups tell us that the Harley is disappearing, and 
Washington tells us that it has no money to help save the American 
Cycle Industry, only we can stand up and cry, "S.O.H.!"

:-)


(Yes, I own a Honda, I also eat whales and operate a small nuclear
reactor in my basement.)

-- 
"Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net," | DoD #1966	
	Matthew 13:47                              | 81 Honda CB400T Hawk
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Jump start with car?
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:25:30 GMT

mmaser@sirius.UVic.CA (Michael  Maser) writes:
> BUT there are things called fuses which will blow if the current
>is too large. As a result, if you try to jump start a bike with a car and
>the current is too high, the fuse will break the circuit before damage can
>be done. If the current doesn't reach the fuse level, then you are totally
>O.K..??? Any questions???

Yea, one. When's the last time you saw a fuse in the starter motor
circuit?
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
DoD #46               My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.              FJ1200
From: rjudy@dime.cs.umass.edu (Judy Ruot)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Wheelies
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:42:05 GMT
Reply-To: rjudy@dime.cs.umass.edu (Judy Ruot)
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst


  Not long after I got an EX500, I was making a left hand turn
  out of a parking area and was sitting at stop on an uphill
  grade before I did this. A little too  much throttle and
  releasing the clutch a little too quickly and its front
  end came up quite nicely (with much help from that grade,
  no doubt) on me but everything remained under control.

Judy
From: matthews@ajsh.colorado.edu (Alex Matthews)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I'm disgusted with the local dod
Keywords: sun, no cars, fast bikes, faster babes
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:40:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: colorado.1992Apr13.204039.24304
Organization: JILA, University of Colorado at Boulder
Originator: matthews@ajsh

In article <1992Apr13.174120.18241@colorado.edu> laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
>
>kevin malloy, tom barber, kevins friend, and myself had a wonderfull
>ride. We started out going down 93 (i hit the dod speed limit) to
>goldengate canyon. going up goldengate canyon was a blast. only
>real sand was in the upper third (where you start desending).
>tom and i blew past a couple of park rangers at about 70-80. taking
>some of those "twisty road ahead go 20" at 70-80. at the top
>tom and i waited about 2-3 minutes for kevin and another 2-3 for
>kevins friend.
>
>after watching a state patrol go by on peak to peak we decided to
>take it easy on our way to nederland. at nederland tom, kevin,
>and kevins friend stoped for lunch while i took off to boulder
>to work on the nasty tax thing
>
>so for all of the rest of the local dod: "YOU ARE ALL YSR's"

Hey Lacksz,  did you by any chance happen to look north from Nederland
to a blue, sunny patch of sky?  That's where I was riding.  No kops,
no kages, no murky weather, no sand; nobody to wait for, nobody to catch 
up to.  Nothing but empty roads (except in Estes Park), 60-degree weather,
and noplace to get to.  I went as fast as I cared to, but spent
a good long while trolling through a 50 mph section at 30, watching
the elk grazing on the first flowers poking out of the edges of 
the snowdrifts.  And while I rode home my arm grew tired from waving
at the late-riser bikes stuck in the traffic jam out of Boulder.

Nyea.  *You* are a YSR, too.  And I'm not just saying that because
I muffed up the name of the meeting place and missed you guys.
-- 
-Alex Matthews (matthews@ajsh.colorado.edu)
DoD #0010   
"Every particle continues in its state of rest or uniform motion in a 
straight line except insofar as it doesn't."  -- Sir Arthur Eddington
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: FREE MAGAZINE OFFER FROM A NY COMPANY.
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:54:18 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 16393@odin.corp.sgi.com, autry@sgi.com (Larry Autry) writes:
>
>The net has enough flamers.  

Really?  I've never seen one.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ccullen@ops-2.Naitc.Com (Carolyn Cullen)
Subject: Honda CB550 info?
Keywords: Honda 
Organization: AC Nielsen Co., Bannockburn IL
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 14:12:26 GMT

I don't know whether you gentle readers ever get tired of us
newbie seekers of wisdom, but what the heck, I'll ask anyway:

Any info on the Honda CB550K? (i know there is a K, F, and just
550, but dont know the difference) Specifically a '77, as in,
availability of parts, how easy to work on, any model-specific
quirks, etc?

E-Mail is fine.  Thanks much.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Carolyn Cullen		"Carpe Diem"	
ccullen@nis.naitc.com  DoD #0450 

-- 
Carolyn Cullen	"Get in touch with the Earth--contemplate a rock"
ccullen@firewall.nielsen.com  DoD #0450 A.C. Nielsen, Bannockburn, IL
From: rja@batcomfs.Eng.Sun.COM (Ninja Squirrel Master)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: preliminary tally FG vs. GS
Date: 15 Apr 92 06:26:38 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: batcomfs

In article <Apr.14.13.46.58.1992.26719@presto.ig.com> steve@presto.ig.com (Steve Barnhouse) writes:
>
>I was parking my GS in front of a bar the other day, and I happened to
>park next to a nice looking Harley.  (Arent' all harley's nice
>looking?).  Well, a woman came out of the bar and as she was getting
>into her car, she said, "Nice bike!".  Yes, she was talking to me and
>yes, she was referring to my bike.

    Of course she was!  All the poseurs on Harleys have tarnished the
    Harley image.  On the other hand, all the Denizens on GSs have
    *enhanced* the BMW image!
--
    Robert Allen, rja@sun.com		DISCLAIMER: I said it, not my company.

    "Traditionalists often study what is taught, not what there is to create."
			     - Ed Parker, Grandmaster, American Kenpo.
From: kens@hplsla.hp.com (Ken Snyder)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:26:06 GMT
Subject: Re: I-70 SUCKS!! (WAS Re: Yet another way to get killed...)
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

jimiii@mips.com (Jim Warford) writes:

> So, be warned!  If you try to maintain the required DOD minimum
> speed on I90 between Miles City and Billings you better have
> a hunting license with a deer tag.

    Actually, you don't have to have a hunting license or deer tag to
bag a deer with a motorcycle.  You won't get a ticket and you can keep
the meat if you like.  Keep in mind, however, that a motorcycle makes
one hellovan expensive bullet!  (Don't ask how I know!)

Got my deer whistles now!

Ken `2 wheels good' Snyder
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: "Shaft Effect?"
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:45:29 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 7774@cs.yale.edu, rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla) writes:
>Hmmmm....Would you call making me pay extra bux for a
>decent C compiler innovation or performance?

Business.

>Had to try out that DoD Zippo, after all.

Um, maybe you should put some fuel in it first?  :^)

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: march@nynexst.com (Gregory March)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Request for Info: FJ1200 Chain
Date: 12 Apr 92 17:26:19 GMT
Organization: Nynex Science & Technology Center, White Plains, N.Y.


I posted this about two weeks ago, but I haven't had any responses - I
wonder if any of my posts ever get out! :-)

I have an '87 FJ that need a new chain. What are my choices? Should I
just call up one of the mail order places and ask them for a "generic"
chain? Is there a better one than the stock?

Any responses will be summarized and posted...

Thanks!

greg
--

------
Gregory F. March    march@nynexst.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: RE: UNFAIR TICKETS!
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 11 Apr 92 00:07:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059

-> >anything they want, regardless of the Constitution, Bill of Rights,
-> or >local statute.

> Yep.  Don't mean it will stick.  Judges' rulings are overturned by
> higher courts all the time.

 Oh, certainly.  Of course, that doesn't address the problem of rotting
in jail without bail for four or five years until a higher court gets
around to overturning the decision.

 You *do* realize bail is entirely up the the discretion of the judge?
From: turner@rastaman.llnl.gov (David Turner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: My seat needs stitches!!
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:04:54 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: G-Division LLNL
Originator: turner@rastaman.llnl.gov

Actually, it's my motorcycle's seat.  The fabric isn't torn, but some of the
stitching is coming apart, near the front and also near the back.  Questions:
Does anyone know of a place in the SF Bay Area (Distribution:  yeah, right)
that can cheaply fix this, without rebuilding the entire seat?  Does anyone
have any hints for fixing it myself?  If it makes a difference, the bike in
question is a 1982 Honda VF750S (Sabre).  I would appreciate hearing from 
anyone who has repaired, or has had repaired, any motorcycle seat.  Many
thanks in advance!!  Later...DT

------------
David Turner
dturner@llnl.gov -OR- turner@rastaman.llnl.gov
(510) 422-1162   
'82 VF750S    DoD#0373
Disclaimer:  All opinions are mine.  None are theirs.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: YET ANOTHER FIRST MOTORCY
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 15 Apr 92 10:49:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059

-> I am looking to buy a street motorcycle. I have put a few thousand
-> miles on a 100cc back home in India. I'm 5'6" tall and weigh a wimpy
-> 125lbs. So I am decidedly looking for a short, light motorcycle. (I
-> kinda liked the Kawasaki Ninja 250cc. But the new one costs about
-> $3000.) What motorcycle should I buy?

 #1:  Do you intend to take the machine to India later?  Check the
      import regs (particularly taxation!) and for any registration
      problems.  Umm... if you buy something that takes premium fuel,
      make sure you can get that too.

 #2:  If you don't plan on taking the bike out of the US, how long do
      you want to keep it?  If it's only for a couple of years, buy
      something you will be able to resell later without losing too
      much money.  (cf "Shaft Effect.)

 #3:  Buy something you like.  To hell with anyone else's opinion.
      <grin>
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: FREE MAGAZINE OFFER F
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:45:25 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us, dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) writes:
>=> |> Nope.  Just "American Rifleman," "Guns & Ammo," "Handgunner,"
>=> "Guns," and |> "Damn you to Hell, HCI."
>
>-> Good! Then you could get a subscription to one of those (I read ".44
>-> Magnum Weekly" myself!)
>
> I read "Machine Gun News" and "Full Auto" myself...

Don't you guys subscribe to "Better Homes and Nukes?"  I find its
editorial depth much better than "Southern Thermonuclear Review," which
is really just a rehash of "Popular Atomics."

ObMoto:  They all suffer from a lack of truely inspiring journalism,
like Lance Holst.

NOT!

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: scott@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Scott Turner)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 23:32:49 GMT
Subject: Re: An apology, and a change of .sig
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO