HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rblander@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Robyn Landers)
Subject: Re: V-4 Honda oil filters
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:51:10 GMT

In article <BLEVE.93Jan11202037@hoggle2.uucp> bleve@hoggle2.uucp (Bennett Lee Leve) writes:

[reformatted for readability]
>
>If you only use Honda oil filters on your Honda V-4, you may be 
>interested in this.  I have been using the oil filter from a 1986 
>Honda Accord instead of the motorcycle one.  They are basically 
>the same.  The only defferences are:
>
>1) The car one is blue and the bike one is black.
>2) The bike one is 3 dollars more here in Orlando.
>3) The car one is made in USA and the bike one is made in Japan.
>
>I have been using the car one for about a year, they are basically 
>the same, and the car one is easier to get and cheaper.  I know 
>that other Honda cars use the same filter, but I always ask for one 
>from a 1986 Accord, just because I know it fits.


	So it is "basically" the same and it fits, that's all?
Does it have the same or better flow rate?  Does the pressure relief 
valve trigger at the same pressure?  Does it even have a pressure relief 
valve?  Just because it looks similar and fits is nowhere near good
enough for me.

	The only legit substitute model I know if is Honda part
number 15410-MM9-003, which is the spin-on filter used on
RC30, GL1500, for example.  It's physically smaller than the 
filter originally specified for Sabre/Magna/Interceptor, but
flow rates and relief valve are otherwise compatible.


-----
Robyn Landers                      | "Any profit should go to Arnie's `get the
rblanders@math.uwaterloo.ca        |  daemon carved on Mount Rushmore' fund."
Denizen 0051,  KotV4               |       - Marty Albini, DOD0550
VF750S Sabre (his) FZX750 Fazer (hers)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: Bike Stolen - replacement cost?
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:49:07

"vwelch" == Von Welch <vwelch@ncsa.uiuc.edu> writes:

vwelch> Suggestion: (this is just an ideas, I've never had to try it)
vwelch> Try getting a market price by looking through classifieds for
vwelch> similar bikes or getting quotes from dealers. At least you'll
vwelch> have solid numbers to wave in their face.

This is how my State Farm agent in Palo Alto does it.  They have a
couple of market research firms that check out newspaper ads for the
past 3 months, and come up with a price based on those ads.  I didn't
like the first price they came back with, so they went to a different
company which had a slightly ($150) higher price.

--
J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311 (DoD# 0378)
"It is the cunning of form to veil itself continually in the evidence
of content.  It is the cunning of the code to veil itself and to produce
itself in the obviousness of value." -- Baudrillard
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From: rich@grebyn.com (Richard Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Bra auction: going, going....
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 09:19:17 GMT

In article <C0MoD2.DGr@well.sf.ca.us> rwert@well.sf.ca.us (Bob Wert) writes:
>In article <1993Jan10.035806.6393@grebyn.com> rich@grebyn.com (Richard Lawrence) writes:
>>
>>$82
>
>	I'll go to $84.50...

It's a mission now.

$85

-- 
Rich Lawrence, Synoptics Systems Engineer  DOD#9630  rich@grebyn.com
     '92 Seca II "Yuri"  CI$:71101,2272  GEnie:R.LAWRENCE14
   215 years ago my government gave me certain inalienable rights.
     Since then, they've been trying to correct their mistake.
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:43169 rec.motorcycles.harley:1786
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: It's a gas
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:59:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Black Belt Motorcyclists Association

As most of you are probably aware:  Many US areas now require
oxygenated fuels for the winter.  And there are three ways
to oxygenate:  MTBE, Methanol & Ethanol.  MTBE is the least
harmul & Ethanol is the most harmful to our bikes.

I called Texaco.  They are using MTBE on the east coast and
Ethanol on the west coast.  (Two different marketing regions!).

Union 76 uses MTBE. (At least here in California).

I'll let you know if I find out more.
____________________________________________________________________________
				You are here!
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 Paul Blumstein, paulb@harley.tti.com, DoD #36, ABATE, AMA, HOG, KD6LAA
            Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
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From: alex@csn.org (ALEX MATTHEWS)
Subject: Re: Tire gauges (was: Re: ME33A Laser wearing too fast...)
Organization: /etc/organization
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:29:22 GMT

In article <29054@oasys.dt.navy.mil> gallant@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Gallant) writes:
>
>I checked my el-cheapo pencil type gauge against the new gauge at various
>pressures.  Both were identical.  The new gauge is easier to use but
>the $0.99 cheapie is just as accurate

Several years ago, one of the magazines tested a random sample of plain
ol' pencil-type gauges.  They found variations of about 1 psi among various
common brands.  Thus, for most applications outside of racing the pencil-
type gauges should work reliably.  I don't know how quickly they wear
out, but I do know that mechanical dial gauges are easily knocked out
of calibration and are not generally suitable for travel use.  Pencil
gauges are robust, and they're cheap enough for me to buy one for each
jacket and each set of luggage.

- Alex


-- 
- Alex Matthews  (new address: alexm.csn.org)

  "A typical Grand Prix race.  High noon.  Tension mounts.  Throttles clench."
                        Patricia Zonker, _Murdercycles_
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From: jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris)
Subject: Re: CBR600F2 dethroned by '93 ZX-6. Whine......whimper!
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:14:29 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.040546.26884@megatek.com> randy@megatek.com writes:
>
>  Brand wannabe's everywhere...  Some of us don't care what label is on the
>bike, but what the bike will *do*.
>
Wasn't it the great philosopher Lance Holst (tm) who said "a bike's 
looks are as important as what it can do"? Sounds like a very adult
thing to say.......or is that one of those "character" thingies?

-John

P.S. Nope - I don't define "adults" as BMW riders. Motorcyclists are all 
kids at heart - just not all of us aspire to be NINJAs and some don't
like being associated with those who do.
============================================================================
           Jono    DoD: 316    Beemers: '85 K100RS '92 R100GS 
    Voice: +1 (617) 621-8739 Fax: +1 (617) 621-0584 Email: jsm@osf.org
           "Too much of a good thing is never enough." -Luba
From: mitcha@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Mitch Abrams)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:28:56 GMT
Subject: Re: Lowering the top revs of BMW R100RT - can it be done?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

You do realize that with a shaft drive bike, you can either replace
the drive shaft/right angle drive unit (VERY BIG BUCKS) or replace
drive gears in the tranny (VERY VERY BIG BUCKS).

I wanted to get my R-65 to go faster, so I bought a GS1100 E
Since you seem to want to go slower it might be easier for you
to go buy a Gold Wing :)

Mitch
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: J.A.P. motorcycle engines
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:40:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


 I just got a reply back from JAP in England.  They want "from L7500"
for the 1200cc V-twins.  That's a bare motor.  For about the same price
I can get a whole Buell.
                                                     
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From: k203002@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (Markolf Gudjons)
Subject: Re: Engine Theory 101 
Keywords: zero-clutch shifting 
Organization: Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH, Hamburg
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 11:08:56 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.145553.25429@news.arc.nasa.gov> howland@noc.arc.nasa.gov (DoD#663) writes:

>|> using the clutch?  Is this thought to be good for the transmission and
>|> good driving practice?
>I found zero-clutch shifting by watching my every
>move while riding, [...]
My operator's manual says that shifting up without operating the clutch is
okay (though I haven't tried it yet :-). Shifting down seems to be a
completely different ballgame, however...

- Mark (k203002@neptun.dkrz-hamburg.dbp.de )   DoD #784   '92 Suzi GS500E




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From: timl@zulu.mti.sgi.com (Tim Layman)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: First Bike Opinions
Date: 13 Jan 93 01:54:02 GMT
Reply-To: timl@mti.sgi.com
Organization: Mips Technologies Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: zulu.mti.sgi.com

In article <C0rGtp.685@synoptics.com>, noemi@synoptics.com (Noemi Berry)
writes:
...
|> 
|> flatfooting is a marvelous luxury if you have it, and it's of greater
|> importance for beginners, but it is not the last word in motorcycling.
|> after all, we ride with our feet on the PEGS, not the ground.

Damn, is THAT why I need to buy new boots every week?:^)

Actually Noemi, I do agree with you. I was refering to beginners when I
stress the importance of having a good foothold on the ground. After a
good year of riding she'll be experts like the rest of us and be able
to ride anything she wants! (well, almost anything:^)

Tim (no sole left) L.

|> 
|> noemi (not quite 5'2")
|> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|> noemi@synoptics.com 						KotSBL
|> '83 BMW R65LS (NM)	"have bike, will travel"		DoD #443
|> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: chain prematurely worn out?
Date: 5 Jan 93 07:23:25 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

caban@convex.com (Jane Caban) writes:

>My '92 Shadow 600 has about 13K miles on it now, and the chain has
>stretched to the point where I can't tighten it any more. (It's an O-ring
>chain.) One Honda mechanic told me that a chain should last about 50K
>miles. 

Typically an O-ring chain should last many thousands of miles.  RK has a
20,000 mile guarantee on their chains, though this is void if you use
your bike under adverse conditions (like in the dirt or on the racetrack)
I personally don't get much more life out of a chain than you mentioned,
but I'm pretty hard on them...  

I've found that chains generally don't need too much adjustment until
near the end of their lifetime, at which point they begin to stretch rapidly.
Two things which will shorten chain life considerably are worn sprockets
and incorrect adjustment.  When adjusting the free play on a chain, you
should rotate the wheel slowly and check the play many times to search for
the minimum and maximum amounts (unless the chain and sprockets are perfect
there will be differences)  The free play should be adjusted so that
both of these measurements are within the specifications.  If you can't do
this, you need a new chain.

-- 
Paul Thompson    Apple Computer    DoD #47    Would you remember a 1-line .sig?
From: willey@sumax.seattleu.edu (  dan quayle)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: lane splitting/sharing poll
Date: 13 Jan 93 03:51:46 GMT
Organization: Seattle University
NNTP-Posting-Host: sumax.seattleu.edu

In article <1993Jan13.020010.8684@gecko.uucp> ed@Tekelec.Com (Ed Campbell) writes:
>In article <1ilporINNvlv@sumax.seattleu.edu> willey@sumax.seattleu.edu (  dan quayle) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan8.051136.19417@omrongw.wg.omron.co.jp> jfriedl@omron.co.jp writes:
>>>|>              Lane            Lane            Lane         Helmet
>>>|> Where        Splitting       Sharing (2 mc)  Sharing      Law
>>>|>            ("whitelineing")                  (cage/mc)  
>>>|> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>|> MA           NO              YES             NO
>>>   Japan        YES             YES             YES      
>>    WA           YES             YES             YES           YES
>>    MD           NO              YES             NO            NO
>     CA           YES*            YES**           YES**
>
>    * On limited access highways (freeways) check local CHP
>office for guidelines.
>    ** Subject to local regulations
>
>































for some reason i have to include as many as or more lines than ed
campbell in order to post this.  gosh, this just goes to show you how
competition is bred into every part of our society.  for the record i do
not feel insecure about the number of lines of my posting.  remember, it's not
how big it is it's what you do with it (at least that's what i tell my
girlfriend).  talking about bikes, of course.

steve

-- 
** stephen willey        206.324.5090            *   '92 cadex CFM-2     **
** willey@seattleu.edu   DoD# 0769               *   '81 GS450           **
**   "math class is tough"  - non-pc barbi    new improved, shorter .sig **
From: wellison@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Update: Them winter woes and blues
Date: 4 Jan 93 10:55:01 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services


After I caught that oppssusm, I wanted to hang it up by it's disgusting little
tail and pull the .357 out of the closet to 'run' some rounds through it (so
what if the rodent was the backstop ;-) But my ten year old daughter thought it
was the cutest thing she had ever seen and demanded that I turn it loose. So I
took it down the road and under the VERY watchful eye of my daughter, let the
little S.O.B. go. God, I can't wait till March to get the Wing on the road
again........
Thanks for all of the advice though ;-)

-=-= Wes =-=- 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tgent@dale.ksc.nasa.gov (Tom Gent)
Subject: Re: I hate snow.
Organization: NASA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:55:55 GMT

In article <Stafford-040193162527@stafford.winona.msus.edu> Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.203814.15439@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>,
>groh@omicron.cs.fsu.edu (Jim Groh) wrote:
>> 
>[...]
>>  By the
>> way, what is this snow y'all keep talkin about.  <Sneerrrkkk>
>
>I'll tell you if you tell us what a Hurricane is.  

Sorry to butt in (NOT!) but I can't resist:

1.  Something that Honda used to claim is the only thing a Ninja is afraid of.

2.  Something you can't ride in, as opposed to snow, which according to the
    net, you can.  Of course, I can personally vouch only for the first one.

Obriding:  Rode to work yesterday and today, narrowly missing the rain.  You
remember rain?

Tom Gent  (Orlando, Fl.)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: nrmendel@unix.amherst.edu (NATHANIEL ROBERT MENDELL)
Subject: Ahem...Daytona, anyone?
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:59:09 GMT

Hello DoDers:

I know it's a little early to mention Mecca, but is anyone planning the
pilgrimage this year? How about we set up some kind of DoD meeting? (The
Boot Hill saloon, perhaps?)

Nathaniel
ZX-10


p.s. Does anyone know if Kawasaki and BMW are still planning to have demo bike
out of the Hampton Inn?











Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: I hate snow.
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 13:10:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.213203.11204@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> earp@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (J.Kevin Earp) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.203814.15439@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> groh@nu.cs.fsu.edu writes:
>>Let's see.  Since the first of year I have put a little over 1100 miles
>>on my FXR.  It's been tough though, It was cloudy on the 3rd and it got
>>clear down to 56 on saturday morning, but I toughed it out.  By the
>>way, what is this snow y'all keep talkin about.  <Sneerrrkkk>
>>-- 
>>Jim Groh     groh@sig.cs.fsu.edu  | DoD #0356  |   Hog# 0437643 |new  improved
>>1959 XLH 900  **  1982 FXR  **  1989 XLH 883  **  1990 XLH 1200 | smaller sig
>
>
>I HATE YOU.   (Calms down, wipes fevered brow and checks weather fore-
>cast for the tenth time.  Emits stream of profanity as forecaster
>speaks glowingly of highs in the twenties.)


Hey!  What's the problem?  I'm in Columbus too - and until it started 
raining like bejesus yesterday, I was riding every day.  Don't they
let you .edu breaths down at the University get your bikes out when it's
chilly <?>


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
               BMW K1100-LT, R80-GS/PD, R27, Triumph TR6
                           Columbus, Ohio

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris)
Subject: Re: Tire gauges (was: Re: ME33A Laser wearing too fast...)
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:55:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.170116.16286@pica.army.mil> tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi (FSE) <tcora>) writes:
>with the car) why? cuz i insisted upon using my dial gage (which is now
>in the trash). stick with the simple ones. (and now i know why the bike
>was handling so shitty this fall)

On the other hand, BMW came out recently with a very nice automatic
electronic guage with a ten year battery. Works great - I've been using
it on my bicycle, mc and cage. About $20. Made in Taiwan!

============================================================================
           Jono    DoD: 316    Beemers: '85 K100RS '92 R100GS 
    Voice: +1 (617) 621-8739 Fax: +1 (617) 621-0584 Email: jsm@osf.org
           "Too much of a good thing is never enough." -Luba
From: dlady@duncan.cs.utk.edu (Don Lady)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: To KotL
Date: 13 Jan 1993 02:30:00 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - Department of Computer Science
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dlady@duncan.cs.utk.edu (Don Lady)
NNTP-Posting-Host: duncan.cs.utk.edu

In article <1993Jan11.193056.15988@ncsu.edu>, kegunn@eos.ncsu.edu (KAY ELLEN GUNN) writes:
|> 
|> Dear Kotl,
|> 
|> Please issue me a DoD number. I have been reading this group for a month now,
|> and I think I am finally ready to be initiated into this estimable group. I
|> can flame with the best of you.
|> 
|> Kay Gunn
|> '88 Yamaha
But you must KNOW who the KotL is! Not just maaiill 'em. That's cheeetin..

-- 
Don (dlady@cs.utk.edu) Lady
AMA #162364    
Suzuki GS850GX, GS750EN  Yamaha DT175E for the cowtrails!
Honda TR200 (used to be the ex's)
From: moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bell Helmets
Keywords: helmet Bell
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:21:36 GMT
Organization: Microbial Pathogenesis and Motorcycle Maintenance
NNTP-Posting-Host: microb0.biostat.washington.edu

In article <C0In7s.IMv@world.std.com>
 CGKarras@world.std.com (Christopher G Karras) writes:

>moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley) writes:

>>(Say Mr. Attorney, once when I "used" my Bell Biker, I suffered a fractured 
>>helmet and a subdural hematoma. Should I have sued Bell? Is it too late?)

> As 
>to your injury, there are a bunch of plaintiffs' lawyers in Seattle, but 
>the only lawyers I know there (or pretty much anywhere) are on the defense 
>side.  Bell is still around to be sued.

Well gosh, the helmet probably saved me from a lot worse than a little 'ol 
hematoma, so maybe I'll just write Bell and thank them instead. I know
that's not exactly the American way, and if everybody felt that way, the 
legal profession (racket?) would be in trouble.

Steve
__________________________________________________________________________
Steve L. Moseley                                  moseley@u.washington.edu
Microbiology SC-42                                Phone: (206) 543-2820
University of Washington                          FAX:   (206) 543-8297
Seattle, WA 98195
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Another poser exposed (was Re: lane splitt
Date: 11 Jan 1993 17:43:09 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 63284@mimsy.umd.edu, leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill) writes:
>
>+DoD##4   CBR250 Hurricane
> ^^^^^^
>
>Indeed?  Just don't let Dave Lawrence or the KotL know about it, poser!
>
>From The List:  0004:Dave Lawrence:NY:tale@cs.rpi.edu

Also from the list:

#4:Jeffrey Friedl:Kyoto, Japan:jfriedl@omron.co.jp

Not that he is not DoD#4, but DoD##4.  (DoD#\#4 for you Unix-heads).

Hey, the chap was quite insistant.  After consulting DoD Rule #1, the
KotL was forced to conceed that it constitutes a unique alphanumeric
string.  Note also that he is at the BOTTOM of the list, along with all
the other geeky weeny nerds, as a sign of the KotL's contempt.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ed@Tekelec.Com (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: infant crawlers banned (was: Helmets)
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 21:08:05 GMT

In article <1ia9g8INNnav@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:

>>Now if the owner calls up the company and the company doesn't give them
>>help - that is a different story.  But most people know how to use a
>>ladder and the benefits of putting warning labels on a latter do _not_
>>outweight the costs of those labels.
>
>Wrong.
>
>The warning labels shift the responsibility of the accident from the
>manufacturer to the consumer (or at least the burden of establishing
>proof otherwise).  It's not just the label.  Warning labels, documented

   Maybe they should develop a standard label that says "Not responsible for
your incompetance or stupidity". Hey, maybe I should get a copy right on that
and go into the safety label business.


Ed Campbell
     Email ed@Tekelec.com (maybe) 
doh # 000069.000 
      000074  (Panhead displacement)
      3 15/32 (Panhead bore)
'57 FL  (Ol' Beasty)
'76 XLCH (Hoss)
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar. (Leapin' Lena)

 
#insert std.getas 
    ed geta bike
    ravi geta shift key
    (as required) 
           geta life 
           Getajob
        Etc.
 

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From: tony@morgan.demon.co.uk (Tony Kidson)