From: lein@base.ctt.bellcore.com (John Leinaweaver,,RRC-4A720,699-2322)
Subject: Re: Penn State update <more bad news>
Reply-To: lein@base.UUCP (John Leinaweaver,,RRC-4A720,699-2322)
Organization: Bell Communications Research, Piscataway, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 22:55:49 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.202745.9944@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann) writes:
>In article <1992Aug29.064049.19496@icf.hrb.com> mjk@icf.hrb.com (Michael J. Kelley) writes:
>> Ricky Sayles and Bobby Engram have been suspened from the team. Both players
>> were running with the second team offense. If anybody wants the exact details
>> E-mail me. I don't want to post them. -- 
>
>I have no such reservations.  The 2 players were arrested for
>looting their classmates dormitories.
>
>My criticism is that their are 2 players who were charged with
>obstructing justice, but were allowed to keep practicing with
>the team.  Then one player was arrested for selling cocaine,
>but he's allowed to keep practicing with the team; now this case.
>
>As long as Joe Paterno does nothing, there is no message.
>Mr. Paterno should send a message that is loud and clear,
>and then this kind of hooliganism will stop.  I think it is a
>carryover from the QB who was constantly being hauled in
>on drunken charges, but little was done by the athletic department.
>
>The image of Penn State football is slipping.
>> 
>> 

Bob,

You should pull your head out of the muddy banks of the Raritan and note
that the two players "legally charged" were suspended indefinetly from the team.
The other two may have been arrested but released by State College's finest.
Apparently they didn't have any charges against them.  State College's
police are notorious for singling out athletes.
 
As far as hooliganism Penn State leaves that to the Big East.         

The QB constantly being hauled in was found sitting at a curb drunk
at 3am, hardly hurting anyone at the time.  He was the starting QB and the
kid had a drinking problem, not unusual at a university and never was
a "loud drunk".  He was also removed from the team and placed in a rehab
center for his own good.  Joe's handling was commendable, he filtered the
trash away so the QB could address the problem.  Of course Bob I suppose
you think there is no such thing as a drinking problem and the QB should
have been booted off the team, school and Centre County.  Real good Bob he
shows the players that society doesn't care and destroys a persons life to 
boot.

Keep in mind that college football is a sport and JoePa is just a coach.
kicking Engram and Sayles off the team is all he can do and yes it does 
send a message considering these two players were battling for the starting
WR spot (a thin position for PSU this year).

By the way Bob, for a person who has always been so anti-Penn State you sure 
are concerned about how JoePa handles the team.  Gee, I don't recall
seeing any of your slams when  a player from your favorite conference
(Big East) was charged by a FEDERAL GRAND JURY for Pell
grant fraud.  At least when PSU players are not assisted in crimes
by the school's administration.

The image of Bob is slipping.


John L
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