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From: mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green)
Subject: Re: Focus moves with mouse?
Keywords: mouse, focus, foreground, background
Reply-To: mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green)
Organization: Columbia University, New York
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:28:53 GMT

Even better (I hope the author of xfeel is listening!) how about click fore/
background as an option.  Configurable for which mouse button does what, this
would be a good workaround for the UI problem where WPS dragging causes the
window of the dragged object to come to foreground.  If one could click the
left or middle (wishful thinking :-( ) button while dragging with right, and
have the window move back to the background, this would make a good workaround.

Whew!
Meir

In article <81774@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt1610c@prism.gatech.EDU (Michael Kenneth McGaugh) writes:
>In article <unruh.727982140@unixg.ubc.ca> unruh@unixg.ubc.ca (Bill Unruh) writes:
>>Is it possible to set OS2 up so that the focus moves with the mouse, rather
>>than the focus transfereing with a mouse click on the window (I know in
>>X it is an option). Also that foreground background is not tied to the focus
>>ie to transfer to foreground you have to click on the boarder rather than just 
>>anywhere. At present focus and foreground are tied together, and that is not 
>>always convenient.
>>Bill Unruh
>>unruh@physics.ubc.ca
>
>To answer your first question, you can get the 'xfeel' util from 
>ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.  This causes focus (and foreground) to follow the
>mouse.
>
>As for separating forground and focus, I don't know.
>Would it be possible to have a named pipe for the input to a program,
>and then have an xfeel like program send all keyboard input to the
>window which has the mouse pointer over it?
>
>Ken.
>
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Subject: re: How do i do checkdsk /f with only one
From: ghdai@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 21 Jan 93 11:28:56 CST
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
NNTP-Posting-Host: vax1.umkc.edu

>I'm trying to do a chkdsk /f on my hard drive which finds errors when doing
>a normal chkdsk.  But when I want the /f switch to correct the errors, it tells
>me my disk is locked.  I tried booting off the install disk and escaping
>out to do it, but stil.  Nothing.  I tried os2scan.exe to see if perhaps I had

try run chkdsk /f from disk 2.  something associate with chkdsk on that
diskette, i guess.

Guohuan H. Dai/2
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|* OS/2 2.1beta includes MMPM/2, Fax/PM, Win3.1 enhanced mode, TT fonts, etc.*|
From: hayesb@yvax.byu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: MMPM/2 and PC speaker
Date: 23 Jan 93 00:02:03 -0700
Organization: Brigham Young University

In article <1993Jan22.222343.28627@midway.uchicago.edu>, sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:
> In article <1993Jan22.190619.16600@wam.umd.edu> adhir@wam.umd.edu (Al Dhir) writes:
>>>No go -- that will not function in Win-OS/2.  The speaker driver
>>>requires total control of the machine.
>>Uuh...I guess I was dreaming then, when I used to use it with the old
>>WinOS2 3.1 beta.  :) .  Actually, Tim, the PC Speaker driver works very
>>nicely under WinOS/2.  Go ahead and install it.
> 
> As always, your mileage may vary.
> 
> It doesn't work on my system.  Sorry.

It works on my system.  But it sounds terrible!                
  
Bryan
Organization: Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Vienna, Austria
Date: Thursday, 21 Jan 1993 11:59:29 CET
From: FLATSCHER Rony <RONY@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: 2.1b: INI-file-problems

1) Access to INI-files (write, update) is ***extremely*** slow (even on
   a 486 25/50MHz). As WPS-infos are stored in them as well as infos of
   regular programs, this is **big** bottleneck speedwise.

2) OS2SYS.INI grows, space is not being handled effectively (e.g. 300K
   vs. 130K after shrinking it with SHOWINI).

---rony
From: dmillar@ocf.berkeley.edu (Derek Millar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Help! OS/2 full screen sessions video mangled.
Date: 21 Jan 1993 07:22:15 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: hailstorm.berkeley.edu

In article <1jfmtr$n34@agate.berkeley.edu> I wrote:
>
>I recently switched monitors (my old one died), and in the process of 
>adjusting the new display for PM, the display of fullscreen sessions
>went berserk:  The screen displays two copies of the text, one screenful
>above the other, with a black band in the middle.  It is unusable.
>
>I have traced the problem to the svga program, but nothing I've done will
>fix the problem.  I tried running a DOS fullscreen session and exiting,
>as well as reinstalling the video driver (25 disk swaps, since I first
>switched to the VGA driver, where everything worked).  I'm using the ET4000
>800x600 driver from the service pack, if it matters.
>


For anyone who may be interested, I solved the problem.

It turns out to have been a problem with the vertical refresh rate:
The new monitor supports 640x480 at 72Hz, so that's what I had my video
card set to.  However, the OS/2 driver screws up fullscreen OS/2
sessions if the vertical refresh at 640x480 is greater than 60Hz.

Oddly, the OS/2 driver works better at 72Hz at 800x600.  Fortunately, I
can have both.  (Even more oddly, DOS likes 800x600 better at 60Hz; again,
this is no problem--OS/2 and my video card's software configuration
utility let me have both refresh rates at the same time.)


Derek Millar
From: schepers@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Peter Schepers)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Scrolling performance (was Re: OS/2 Wish List)
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:08:59 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

In article <1993Jan25.232108.3269@clpd.kodak.com> mitchell@cort (Burt Mitchell (x39688)) writes:
>A while back someone was saying that there was a way to set the cursor in
>a command window to a solid block.  The writer claimed that scrolling speed
>was improved by doing this.  Of course I wasn't paying close attention to
>the procedure to change the cursor.
>
>Has anybody tried this solid block cursor idea and if so did it work?
>
>Burt Mitchell  mitchell@serum.kodak.com
>
>


That was me that reported the screen scrolling improvement. A little while
later, someone posted a message saying he tried it and it didn't work.
Well, after installing the beta and using the IBM supplied ATI 800x600x256
drivers, the scrolling improvement was gone. No change at all. 

It turns out I was running with Joels 800x600x16 generic drivers before,
and my method worked well with it. But with the ATI drivers, they don't.
So the moral of the story is, if you use Joels drivers, this method might
work.

If you wan't to try it, download the file 'UNBLIN20.ZIP' from
OAK.OAKLAND.EDU in pub/msdos/screen and see if it helps.

Peter.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: HELP!! Desktop defaults to Detail View
From: slee@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 26 Jan 93 07:45:54 CST
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
NNTP-Posting-Host: vax1.umkc.edu

After reinstalling OS/2 following problems with a motherboard upgrade, my
desktop defaults to the Details view.  How might I go about changing the
default back to the Icon View, which should have been the installed config?

Any and all responses appreciated.
From: jphillips@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: MR FILE / Menus
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:28:47 -0800
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

> I have just gotten a copy of MR FILE/PM from hobbes. It looks good - kind
> of like a graphic Norton Commander for OS/2. The docs don't mention much
> about defining menu options. I wanted to try running a program xxx.exe
> from a directory c:\aaa. I tried defining a menu to call a batch file
> which had:
> c:
> cd \aaa
> xxx
> 
> It worked, but it seems MR FILE first calls an OS/2 windowed session, then
> opens a DOS session to execute the batch file. ---slow--- . Then when I
> closed the program, the DOS session closed, and I was left with an OS/2
> window that had a "press any key to continue" mssg. Pressing a key then
> closed the window.
> 

Try the online help when your in that (menu addition) section. I found that
there are a number of commands that should fix you up. I don't have access to
my OS/2 machine right now but it's something like - to get rid of the pause and
prefacing the command with DOS will let you call a dos session direct.

If you can't find it let me know and I'll look it up directly for you.
 
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From: schepers@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Peter Schepers)
Subject: Re: Windows Standard/Enhanced in Beta 2.1 - how?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:35:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.101453.24794@actrix.gen.nz> Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>In article <1993Jan19.165506.20283@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.com (Jim Reisert) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> I clicked on the Windows Settings box in my 'Quicken for Windows' object.  I
>> then clicked on Windows mode, but nothing happened, no report of what mode
>> it was set to run in.  How do you change the Windows mode on a
>> per-application basis?
>> 
>
>I'm not too clear what you mean......
> 
>In the "WIN-OS/2 SETTINGS" is the WIN_RUNMODE setting. It offers either 3.1
>Standard or 3.1 Enhanced. You chose which button you want.
> 
>If you  *don't* have this setting....then there was an error on your install
>of the 2.1 beta. I have had this error on 2 of the 4 machines I have installed
>the beta on. You fix it by re-installing the DOS and Windows support using the
>Selective Install function. Ths always sorts it out.
> 
>If your full-screen WinOS/2 doesn't offer this, you can add "/3" as a
>parameter on the "program" page of the object's settings. This will start the
>full-screen session in Enhanced mode......
> 


It seems when you install the system clean, and without installing the
hires video drivers, you get the WIN_RUNMODE option. At least I did when I
installed it a few days ago here at work. When I installed the 800x600x256
ATI XL drivers, the option disappeared. The same thing happened with the
WD90C30 drivers.

Does this mean that if I re-install the DOS/Windows support, this will
come back?



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From: johnl@n3dmc.svr.md.us (John Limpert)
Subject: Re: HELP:  Keyboard lockup!
Organization: N3DMC, Silver Spring, Maryland
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 16:27:12 GMT
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Try unplugging the keyboard for a few seconds and plugging it back in.
If the keyboard starts working again then your keyboard may be
defective.  I have seen this sort of problem on a couple of systems.
In both cases the keyboard died completely within a month or two.

-- 
John A. Limpert
johnl@n3dmc.svr.md.us
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From: ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS2 beta install problem
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:53:46 GMT
Organization: Forschungszentrum Juelich

In article <1993Jan23.141618.16770@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>,
alex@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Alexander Jung) says:
>
>Hi!
>I down-loaded OS2 2.1 beta from two servers
>(ftp.uni-erlangen.de and ftp.urz.uni-heidelberg.de)
>and wrote the disk images via 'dd if=disk??.dsk of=/dev/fd0'
>
I got them from ftp.uni-stuttgart.de and made the disk with loaddskf

>the disks look OK (they have a DOS file system and I
>can read and write files to then, even chkdsk /f is happy...)

Mine too.

>but when I try to install it I wont get further than disk1.
>I can boot from disk0, and at that deep blue IBM screen
>I insert disk1 as I'm asked to. Then the black screen
>with those four os2-logos appears and a

You got further than me. When I insert disk1 there is access to the floppy
then a pause then again access and then a beep "Insert disk1". I won't accept
my disk1 which looks ok when I do a dir or a Norton Disk Test and is labeled
DISK1.

This was the shortest installation I ever saw.

Michael Bode
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni)
Subject: Re: OS/2 Wish List
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 06:32:03 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.041403.27929@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <enk2.83.727847427@po.cwru.edu> enk2@po.cwru.edu (Erik Kovach) writes:
>
>>9.  Improved DOS and OS/2 windowed session speed in 8-bit color. (may be the
>>    the drivers limitations, tho)
>
>The jump scrolling would help, naturally.
>

No. Basically, I think the SVGA driver for Tseng chips is too slow. The
same card under Linux+X-Windows is much faster in video scrolling,
even I turn off the jump scroll feature in X-terms. The old X386 driver
for ET?000 chips used to be criticized as awfully slow, like what I
see in OS/2 2.0+SP. After a guy in UT Austin rewrote the driver
in assembly, the card gives you the performance of Sparc.

In my opinion, IBM (or the video card vendors) should look into the
cards carefully in order to take full advantage of the cards.  I can't
program under WPS using the Windowed OS/2 + Emacs. It's rather painful
to switch the monitor from full screen to WPS (and the click of my
Sony monitor really scares me a lot).



Wen-Chun Ni, wcn@cs.brown.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jw_shin@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Jin woo Shin)
Subject: Wanted: OS/2 2.1beta
Organization: Quake Public Access, Sylmar CA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 09:08:08 GMT

Is there anyone in Los Angeles or San Fernando Valley area who is willing 
to make a copy of OS/2 2.1beta for me? I do not have a CD-ROM drive and I 
have no access to one so only way for me to get a copy would be to.... 
beg!!!
Thanks in advance.
JWS

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From: david@maxwell.ucsc.edu (David Darknell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: HELP! IPL Beep Codes...
Date: 28 Jan 1993 17:46:23 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxwell.ucsc.edu

When I boot my computer, I occasionally get a beep or two.
I assume that something has run amuck, but what?  Is there a 
way to find out?]

Today when my system booted, I get three beeps in rapid succession.
Thats never happended before...  How do I find out what these beep
codes mean?

David
From: ifai645@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Paul C. Janzen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: My beta bugs (acad, losing disk)
Date: 27 Jan 1993 19:57:34 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: louie.cc.utexas.edu

Well, I downloaded and installed the beta yesterday. The installation
went smoothly. 

Here's what I've found so far:

The default settings for Autocad Release 9 (as created by the migrate
programs thingy) use a windowed session for Autocad. (As if this is
usable.) But when you run it windowed, it hangs the machine. C-A-D
works, BUT (and here is the really strange part:) On the next boot
(if a cold-reset is not done) OS/2 has no comprehension of my 
SCSI disk. Boot-manager doesn't see the partitions, the d: and e: drives
are invisible. Cold-boot brings everything back to normal.

(My setup: 111M Maxtor IDE as C:, Ultrastor 14f using Int13 driver on
D:, HPFS as D and Fat on E:.)

Also, dir /r doesn't work; something about a syntax error, I think.

The comm drivers seem to drop more characters at 19200 than before; I'll
have to do some tests to make sure, though. 

(BTW, if someone could mail me with the details of how we beta-testers
are supposed to report bugs, I'd appreciate it. Is IBM watching 
this group? Or what?)

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From: sheldon@iastate.edu (Steve Sheldon)
Subject: Re: Rumor: IBM out of hardware business????
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:07:59 GMT

In <1jpjabINNlsh@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong) writes:

>There has been a rumor around this here part that IBM made an official
>announcement on Fidonet that they are dropping out of the hardware
>business. I don't have Fidonet access and can't confirm this. Anyone
>have such access and seen this announcement out there??  No more PS/1,
>PS/2? The end of their clone line only fater being out for a couple of
>months? Any clarifications? IBM, are you out there reading Usenet?

 Yeah, right!  Who spreads these things?

I'll bet it looked like this:

IBM Leaves the computer business, from Nobody's News:

 Due to losses incurred in 3rd quarter, 1992, IBM has announced that they
shall be getting out of the Computer business.  This announcment comes after
Johnny Peabody, nephew of the CEO of IBM, announced publicly that he is
tired of receiving computers for christmas and would rather get wood blocks.

 IBM in a shocking move sold off all of their computer assembly plants and
are now searching for creative carpenters who can make intricate wood
blocks.  IBM is laying off all but 12 of the people currently working in 175
plants across the globe.

 An auction will be held next saturday to clear out the remained of IBM's
computer warehouse supplies.  Location to be announced later.

:-) :-) :-)
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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: IBM Value Point and OS2
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:31:37 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <19829@mindlink.bc.ca> Dan_Smith@mindlink.bc.ca (Dan Smith) writes:
>I just setup my new IBM Value Point 486SX which came preloaded with OS2.  OS2
>has an 80 Meg partition, Boot Manager has a1 Meg partition and there is a
>mystery 1Meg partition at the end of the disk.  I want to install both DOS
>and OS2 on the same partition and have read that they can be installed using
>the Dual Boot method.  However the manuals all seem to indicate that the only
>way to install using Dual Boot is to install OS2 on an system that has DOS
>existing.

Yep.  This is the nature of how DualBoot works.  All it does is back
up the DOS system files on installation and install on top of it.
Then, when you do a BOOT/DOS or BOOT/OS2 command, the program copies
the proper system files (OS/2's or DOS's) onto the boot sector and
related space and boots.

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From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: NEW 2.1B install problem
Date: 25 Jan 93 00:15:43 GMT
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au

parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:
: uznerk@mcl.ucsb.edu (Andrew Krenz) writes:
: : Okay, I got past the first problem I had installing 2.1 beta, now for the
: : second one.  
: : 
: : When you reach the part after it reboots and loads up the graphical
: : interface and asks you if you want to install the whole thing or just 
: : selected parts, it bombs.  You can choose any of the options (except
: : the mouse tutorial) and after a couple seconds, the mouse pointer freezes
: : and so does everything else.
: : 
: : I've  tried all sorts of different CMOS settings, and the install disks I'm 
: : using have all the latest and greatest fixes.
: : 
: : Thanks,
: : 
: : -Andrew Krenz
: : uznerk@mcl.ucsb.edu
: 
: I had exactly the same problem - so I mucked around a little, reinstalling
: (a total of 4 times), after which the selective install worked fine. I don't
: know what happened - seems to be an INSTALL problem.
: 

Looking back on it - the selective install worked fine AFTER i reformatted 
my major partition. Sorry about the extra message folks :-)

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green)
Subject: Re: mmpm/2 and pc speaker
Reply-To: mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green)
Organization: Columbia University, New York
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:35:12 GMT

Make sure the user can select what port is used.
Now if only OS2 had an option to disable the spooler for a specific port :-)

In article <199325.4881.39517@dosgate> "mike frisch" <mike.frisch@canrem.com> writes:
>
>In a previous message, David Charlap writes...
>
>DC> Maybe, maybe, it could be done with the spooler disabled.  The reason
>DC> the DOS software fails is that the print spooler is buffering and
>DC> delaying all output to the printer ports.  If you disable the spooler
>DC> (I don't know if this can be done), they might work OK.
>
>     Hmmm...  I remember running some DOS software supporting a D/A
>convertor on the parallel port under OS/2 and it worked.  I must have
>had the spooler disabled or something.  I think I'll try doing that
>again.
>
>DC> As for MMPM/2 drivers, you'd need something to suspend the spooler
>DC> (not too hard), and then directly access it's ports (harder).  I think
>DC> a device driver might be able to do this, but I don't know if two
>DC> devices (spooler and your sound driver) can be configured to use the
>DC> same port or not.
>
>     Right now, I am trying to see what the possibility of writing a
>device driver for such a device would be.  Seeing as I'm a new C
>programmer, I don't know what technicalities are involved.
>
>     Much thanks for your reply!  It gives me something to think about
>     now.
>
>Mike.
>
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