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Subject: Re: Toy Collies,etc.
From: guelzow@brandonu.ca
Date: 30 Jul 92 10:59:02 CST
Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

In article <9207291508.AA22006@bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, 
Barbara S Withem <bwithem@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:
> I am looking to adopt a puppy that will grow into a small dog. I am thinking of
> of a toy collie, sheltie or a mutt with a mix of one of these breeds. All of my
       ^^^^^^^^^^interesting breed that in fact doesn't exist. It seems that
many people use this expression for Shelties since they resemble Rough COllies
but are much smaller. A Sheltie is a very good dog to live with since they try
to please you, but you should be willing to spend much time with them since
they attach themself to you. They also require quite a bit of grooming: surely
more than a german shepard. SHelties like to learn (because that makes you
happy). Note that I am bias: I live with two tricolour shelties: Can Ch. Can
OTCh Dyniques Misty Manitoba Morn and her daughter Taliesin Midnight Sun Can CD
FDCh.
> past dogs have been german shepards so I am not very familiar with the smaller
> breeds. I would appreciate any suggestions, stories(good or bad) or hints of
> what to look for about these two breeds. Thanks-Barb
The best book on Sheltie is called SHeltieTalk, you may want to have a look at
it.
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Andreas Guelzow  Dept. of Mathematics & Comp. Sc. Brandon University MB Canada
Guelzow@BrandonU.Ca
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From: gfowler@javelin.sim.es.com (Gary Fowler)
Subject: Re: Rat Terriers
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:34:21 GMT

dwitt@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Dallas) writes:

>I would like to know if anybody out there knows anything about
>the Rat Terrier breed.  I have looked and looked in all kinds of
>books and libraries and can't find anything on the subject.

>Can anybody help me?

>My email is dwitt@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu

>Thanks
>Dallas Witt

I was recently looking into buying a Fox Terrier.  When I asked what they were
like, I was told that they are also called Rat Terriers.  The breed was
developed to hunt rodents and the like.  There are two varieties of Fox Terrier.
One variety is wire haired and the other is smooth haired.  I beleive that they
can get to be about 10 - 15 lbs and about 10 inches high.  That's about all I
know.  I never saw a live one.  I just saw pictures.  I hope that helps.
From: primeaux@alphard.cs.utk.edu (David Primeaux)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Cool Dog Tricks Needed
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:18:03 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Tennessee, Knoxville
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: primeaux@alphard.cs.utk.edu (David Primeaux)
NNTP-Posting-Host: alphard.cs.utk.edu
Keywords: dog tricks

In article <Bs2Bv0.507@acsu.buffalo.edu>, kkeating@acsu.buffalo.edu (Kelly Anne Hinkle) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul27.172654.8870@cs.cornell.edu> honig@cs.cornell.edu (Sue Utter Honig) writes:
|> 
|> >You're about to be out-voted, I suspect :-).  So far I've seen 2 votes
|> >for golden retriever type to your one GSD vote.  I'm making it 3
|> >against one.  Oh noooo, is this another flame war????????  :-).
|> >
|> >BTW, my husband never can remember how to pronounce bichon frise.
|> >They're now those little "bitchin' frizzy" dogs to us (no offense to
|> >owners of this wonderful breed :-).
|> 
|> OK, fine, then I'll back off.  I still say it was a GSD, but hey, who am I to
|> argue with the Couch Potato experts of the net?  :)
|> 
|> It's pronounced Bee-shon Frees-ay.
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Maybe so, but, to nitpick, it *should* be pronounced closer to
Bee-shon Free-zay, with the "on" of the second sylable dying somewhere
in the nether regions of the nasal cavity and the "r" of the third
sylable sort of grunted/spit out of the lowest part of the throat  :)
Seriously, in French, when an "s" is found between two vowels it
is pronounced like the  English "z".  There. Now, back to dogs.

|> Kelly

-- David Primeaux
         (no "s", no "z", just a silent "x")
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:21:48 EDT
From: David L. Passmore <DLP@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Adding oil to food...Best practices?

Should vegetable or other oil be used to supplement a dog's food? If so,
what specific sort of oil? How much per unit of body weight?
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From: toolan@scivax.stsci.edu
Subject: Re: Breed Research
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: usa,na
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:51:34 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.181510.15906@novell.com>, mlinda@ca.novell.com (M'Linda Taylor) writes:
> Hi!!!!
> 
> I had posted previously regarding Dobies and had pretty much
> decided to get one when I bought a house.  I've found the
> house, but can't afford to replace the 4' fencing with something
> a little more "dobie-proof".
> 
> Now I need to hear from people about dogs that would do well
> as "Therapy Pet Pals" as I've decided to get involved in this
> neat work.  In case you haven't heard about it, it's a group
> of people who visit hospitals, nursing homes and re-heb centers
> with their pets.
> 
> The woman who will be training my dog has suggested Welsh Corgis
> and has agreed that my possible choice of a Sheltie would be a
> good choice.  I'm looking for a "rescue" case and need some
> suggestions.  The training to be provided will begin with basic
> obedience with an eye to the much discussed "Canine Good Citizen"
> certification.
> 
> I live in Austin Texas so the dog would need to do well in high
> humidity and heat.  My house has a big back yard, but the dog
> will spend most of it's time in the house and will HAVE to get
> along well with my two cats.  I want a friend who loves to ride
> in the car and socialize.  I realize that the car thing is really
> a matter of training, but I need a dog who really gets into running
> around with "Mom" as I plan on taking him/her with me everywhere
> I can manage.
> 
> Let's hear from you dog-parents!
> 
> THANKS!!!
> M'Linda
> 
> 
> ************************************************
> *           - Lonestar -                       *
> *Internet: mlinda@novell.COM                   *
> *UUCP: {ames,sun,apple,amdahl}!novell!mlinda   *
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M'linda,

	I've attempted to post mail to you, but it seems to be bouncing, so
I'll post my suggestion in the hopes you will see it.

	Have you considered adopting a retired racing Greyhound?  They are
very intelligent, but also very gentle and laid-back.  I know of people who
have Greyhounds in our local Pet Therapy program, Pets on Wheels.  Both the
dogs and the people love all the attention.  A retired racer would definitely
be a rescue case; if not adopted, most of these dogs will be killed.

	Our back yard is fairly small and is enclosed by a 4' fence.  Neither
of our dogs makes any attempt to jump, although I'm sure they could.  
Greyhounds can get along well with almost all animals, so I'm sure you could
train them to accept your cats.  I believe there are a couple Greyhound Rescue
groups in Texas, so I'm sure they would be able to take the Texas climate. We
take ours everywhere we can; the more visible the dogs are, the more interest we
can generate in saving more from an untimely death.

	If you'd like more information, feel free to contact me!

					Sharon Toolan
					TOOLAN@STSCI.EDU
					Baltimore, MD

		Make a fast friend--adopt a Greyhound!
From: riacmt@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Carol Miller-Tutzauer)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: UPDATE #2: GSD with hip dysplasia -- Post-surgical update
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:29:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Well, MacGyver had hip removal surgery on his first hip Monday.
The surgery went very well, and my regular vet assisted the
surgical specialist just so he could observe the procedure.
Normally, the dog would stay at the animal hospital for a day
or two, but MacGyver was being the Painmeister that he is, so
we got to go pick him up the same day as the surgery ;-) !
He was flying high on the morphine given him, but the specialist
told us, "Bless his heart... he's already trying to walk on his
operated leg."  

Well... he was a hurting puppy for about a day.  It is now the
third day after surgery and he is regularly putting weight on the
leg.  The specialist said it might take three or more weeks before
he used the leg, but MacGyver doesn't seem to have that much 
patience.  He's grumpy and won't let our other GSD come within
a yard of him, but his disposition seems to be gradually improving.
He's on antibiotics and aspirin, but that's it.  And in spite of
having to put most all of his weight on the other un-operated and
dysplastic hip, he's getting up and down the stairs to go outside
with relative ease.  He's sleeping a lot and is not the least bit
interested in playing, but I guess I can't ask for everything.

Oh, yeah.... His first birthday was the day after the surgery, poor
thing ;-(.  I guess I'll have to get him a raw steak dinner to
celebrate the removal of his stitches in two weeks instead!  (And
there's a LOT of stitches -- about 12 inches worth.)

Carol
riacmt@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
From: bfbear@penn.Gwinnett.COM (Penn Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: the end of the no flame dog kill post
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:52:43 GMT

this is it, the resolution (remember my post about the friend whose father
was going to kill his dog by starvation)
well, the up-to-now, spineless son- told the father
"get a gun and either kill the dog, or kill me".
well, it looks like the doberman ("BlackJack") will get to live life until old
age gets him- (am hoping a BIG bus gets his owner, or the alchohol finally gets
his brain.)
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From: bradav@auto-trol.com (Brad Davidson)
Subject: Show Brags
Originator: bradav@bradav
Keywords: Owner-Handler
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:00:12 GMT

Ok, Dog showing is sorta fun... More nerve racking than weight pulling
but I am proud to announce

Denali's Dazzling in Black, Tibetan Mastiff

In a double show on Sunday my 8 month old puppy took
Best of Breed - puppy
Best Opposite Sex over champions
Best of Winners
Best in Group - Rare Breeds.

Did this twice for two 5 point majors... 2/3 a champion at 8 months

Look for puppies in 1994 after a CD and weight pulling title.

Not bad for a first time handler.

Brad Davidson



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From: rewald@scivax.stsci.edu
Subject: Re: Cool Dog Tricks Needed
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: usa,na
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 13:48:58 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.190353.19729@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, 
  kzuga@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Karen Zuga) writes:
> I inadvertently taught my dog a trick which has amused many of my friends.  She
> is obsessed with barking at the neighborhood cats who frequent our front yard.
> When I am in a mood to tolerate her barking and I see a cat, I let her know 
> that one is there.  This has now developed into a routine in which I can get 
> her to bark on command by saying "cat".  Yes, I can get her to stop, also.  My 
> only regret is that instead of the word cat, I should have trained her to bark 
> at the mention of a name, such as any objectionable politician.
Hi -
  I mostly lurk, but I thought I might make a suggestion on this thread.
All "tricks" (and most training) are based on things the animal already has
a tendency to do on its own.  Your job is to develop these tendencies.  I'm
following up on this particular note because Karen has taken advantage of her
dog's tendency to bark at cats, and molded it to a desired cue/response.
  I think you should play with your dog, and see what it likes to do, and see
if you can encourage a behavior.  Eventually, you will have a some different
behaviours, and you can string them together to make a "cool trick".  But
remember that most cool tricks usually have a few parts to them, so work on each
part before stringing them together.  Otherwise, you'll get frustrated, and
you dog will too.
   Have fun!
          Rosalie
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: jkjncs@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: overly protective pooch
Reply-To: jkjncs@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:25:11 GMT

In article <24740031@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, mledna@hpcc01.corp.hp.com 
(Matt Ledna) writes:
>  On my last backpacking trip I had a few problems with Zack.  On the hike
>  in and out he was the mellowest pup around - cruising down the trail making
>  friends with other hikers, etc.  But as soon as we set up camp he decided
>  that he had to protect our new 'home' from any and all other hikers passing
>  through the area - lots of barking and a generally agressive attitude.  I'm
>  sure that the other hikers did not appreciate having 92 pounds of fur and
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
this is no doubt an understatement

>  teeth stand them down in the middle of the trail.  I was a bit embarrassed

Matt, not everyone wants a 92# furry "friend" with teeth, and a lot of people
get pretty upset - and rightfully so - when they hike out into the backcountry 
for a peaceful weekend only to be accosted on the trail by someone's dog.

I think you need to keep your dog under complete control at all times; this
may, for your dog, mean keeping him on a leash at all times.

When I go hiking with my dog, he runs off-leash; as soon as I see another
person, he's dropped on a down-stay (yes, he drops in place) or is called 
to heel immediately. He is not allowed to approach others - if the people 
like dogs, they will approach us to say hi and then I'll release Murphy 
(he's a lab and thinks it's his job to personally greet everyone). When
he was younger and couldn't control his enthusiasm, he stayed on leash.

Unfortunately, the places where I can hike with Murphy are disappearing, in
part, I believe, because not everyone is responsible about their dog's
actions (not only with greeting/aggressive behaviors, but with cleaning up
after their dogs,... - I assume you carry plastic bags :+)

>  as there was nothing I could do to calm him down short of tying him to a
>  tree.  Any suggestions on how I can get him to chill out in these situations?
>  He's normally one of the friendliest dogs around.  I'm heading for the
>  backcountry again in a couple of weeks and do not want a repeat performance.

Once you've made camp, if you want him off-leash, you must monitor him
carefully so you can stop him before he attempts to confront unsuspecting
hikers. Sounds like he's getting territorial (how is he in your house?) -
I would putting him in a down stay whenever you see hikers to help calm
him down and keep him under control.

*********************************************************
* jane jackson and murphy b. lab, Am./Can. CD, CGC, TDI *
* jkjncs@ritvax.isc.rit.edu                             *
*                                                       *
* standard disclaimer applies...                        *
*********************************************************

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From: lgold@callahans.Cadence.COM (Lynn Gold)
Subject: Re: Beware:  It could happen to you
Organization: /mnt4/lgold/.organization
	<24664@dog.ee.lbl.gov>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1992 03:28:14 GMT

In article <24664@dog.ee.lbl.gov> jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW) writes:

>>>There's a friendly Golden that gets tied outside Aladin's restaurant
>>>in Granville OH every so often, that's surprisingly aggressive towards
>>>passing dogs on his 4-foot rope.

>There's an extremely mouthy Golden on the next street that used to bark
>like a raving maniac at me and my Dobie as we walked away... which was
>often, since that house is on the way to the grocery store.

I often walk Fuzzball past an auto yard where there are several
"Beware Of" dogs.  There's this old one -- I think it's a dobie, but
I'm not sure -- anyway, it LOVES to bark, and bark, and bark....

Little Fuzzball likes to walk up to the fence and swish her tail and
make high-pitched noises at the dog as he bares his gums at her. :-)

--Lynn
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From: abb@unislc.uucp (Anne Beck)
Subject: Rescued Newf Needs Home (Western U.S.)
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:08:11 GMT

Boomer is a year old male Newf who desperately needs and deserves a new
home.  I rescued him this weekend and am currently fostering him.  Our
regional Newf club is assisting in the effort, and I'm going to contact
our national rescue organization tonight.  But someone on the net may
also know of a deserving home for this dog.

Boomer is being neutered today, because one of his main "behavioural" 
problems is mounting everything in sight.  He was never taught
that this is NOT good behaviour.  In fact, poor Boomer was taught
little.  He was bought as a pup because he was so cute, but the
buyers had never seen an adult Newfoundland!  (We won't talk about
the breeders who sold this pup!!)  So when Boomer grew and grew and
just kept growing, and then started to DROOL, it was all over for
him.  He was banished to a corner of the backyard and ignored.  He was
never brushed, seldom walked, and never allowed much company because
of his "bad habits."

I spent two days grooming Boomer, cutting massive mats from his body,
and he endured it with patience, dignity, and (yes) affection.  We have
started "off," "ouch," and "down."  And he's learning.  He walks just
fine on a leash.  I have no idea if he's housebroken, but suspect not.
(He's in my outdoor run; my other dogs like that better!)  He loves
playing with my 12 year old, although I've had to haul him off the
boy several times.   Part of this is the boy's fault:  he should know
better than to wrestle with a male Newf!

Anyway, Boomer is a potentially great dog who needs an experienced
owner who will give him the training, guidance, and love he
deserves.  We are asking only the cost of his medical treatment and
food, plus shipping, if necessary.  However, we will screen
stringently.  I never want anyone to have to rescue Boomer again!

Thanks, netters.

Please respond e-mail to "abb@unislc" or call me at home
in the evenings at 801-487-3368.  Oh yes, he's now in Salt
Lake City.

Anne Beck
-- 
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From: lynn@b15.b15.ingr.com (Lynn Lee)
Subject: pug owners -- shedding problems??
Organization: Intergraph, Huntsville AL
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 20:59:17 GMT

I have a male pug and he is shedding like mad this year.  Actually, we
go through this every year, but this is the first year I've been posting
to the net to ask this question.  Our dog has VERY thick hair around his
neck and we can brush and brush and never get it all out or see a difference.

Does anyone else have this problem with their pugs?  He is a fawn, but we
also have a black female who sheds very little.  The "pug" book says
that there should be minimal shedding with a pug.

Reply to me directly at lynn@lynn.b15.ingr.com.

Thanks!!

Lynn
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Rat Terrier
From: dwitt@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Dallas)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:37:05 GMT
Followup-To: Rat Terriers 
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Keywords: rat terrier, fox terrier

Hi!

I rec'd your answer to my post about the rat terrier.  I already own this
dog and got her a couple years ago from a farm family who told me she
was a "rat terrier".  I have looked over several books and she looks
most like a Toy Fox Terrier.  She weighs in at about 8 or 9 lbs., is
mostly white with black spots, and otherwise has all the features of
the Toy Fox Terrier.  

I suspect that she is probably not a purebred but may be very close
to one.  Of course I didn't get any papers as I was not interested
in a purebred dog when I purchased her (I just want to be a happy
dog owner and am not interested in showing her.)

Again, thanks for the answer to my post.  I was just curious if anybody
knew anything about the rat terrier and I found that there are 
many different opinions on this breed.

If anybody has any other ideas about the rat terrier, please let
me know!

Dallas Witt  
dwitt@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu
From: Dennice@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu (Dennice)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: *****REPOST*****ROTTWEILER 4-SALE*****
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:34:05 GMT
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: Slac

ROTTWEILER

10 Month Old Male

****PURE BREED****

$850.00 or best offer.

Has papers and all.  Must Sell ASAP!  Moving homes and can't take him with
us! (SAD).........   Call Brian at (510) 237-7272 leave message or call in
evening.
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From: lgold@callahans.Cadence.COM (Lynn Gold)
Subject: Re: The Great Protector !!
Organization: /mnt4/lgold/.organization
	<19730034@hpmwdjs1.sr.hp.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1992 03:13:00 GMT

My parents' Yorkie, Djinn-Djinn (RIP) used to attack boxes of dentures
delivered by UPS (Dad was a dentist).  It was hysterical -- Dad would
empty the box, put it on the floor, and this 7 lb dog would start
growling and clawing and biting this three-dimensional piece of cardboard!

--Lynn
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From: gburges@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Garry Burgess)
Subject: Have New Puppy, now what?
Summary: How do I train my new dog?
Keywords: new puppy
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 22:42:32 GMT


Hi Netters, Doglovers,

I have had a new puppy now for about 3 hours (German Shep. 8 wks old), and
I would like some advice from the "experts" as to how to train it.  I have
never owned a dog before, so I don't have the first clue as to how to
train and care for this animal, but I am willing to learn.

I have 3 young excited daughters, so the dog doesn't lack for attention,
that is for sure.  It seems that he will be played with most of the day. 
I would like a friendly pet, that would also guard my property when I'm
not home.  

What should I do now, and what are the things that I should be thinking
about in the next few weeks.


Garry
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