From: B645ZAW@UTARLG.UTA.EDU (Stephen Tice)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
Subject: Fuzzy Logic (was Re: Ross Perot)
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:10:00 GMT

doconnor@layton.inews.intel.com (Dennis O'Connor, 14 Apr) wrote:
|(Subject: Re: Ross Perot)
|
|lee@wang.com (Lee Story) writes:
|]
|] Let's take one other example---the dress code that EDS was famous for....
|
|Assuming the employees know before they took the job, then there's no moral
|or ethical problem of even the slightest kind. It's pure quid-pro-quo.
|I wear a suit and do other things for you, you pay me.

Here I've got a chance to be identified prominently as a minority, and 
you want to go inject *reason* into the discussion. Grrrrr.

Ding dang "poodles" ain't got no respect for those of us of the fuzzy 
persuasion.
 
|There are reasons for dress codes and fixed work periods. You or I may
|disagree about the importance of those reasons. Most EDS employees
|have the same option I would have if it REALLY bugged me : leave.

This is more like it -- the ole "luv it or leave it argument." Had me
worried for a moment, I thought I wasn't going to be able to call on 
solidarity from the rest of the oppressed. Same ole treatment though 
-- means the fuzzies oughta be able to get quotas, scholarships, and 
minority contracts too.

Good shot D.O'C -- abuse us some more.
 
|But, IMHO, why leave a job you otherwise like over such trivialities ?
|Surely having rewarding, enjoyable work ( that pays ) is more important.
 
Hey, it might be trivial to you, but the *reason* I have a beard is that
I'd rather look like a bear than a pencil-neck geek with an overbite!
Ding-dang poodle mentality. Ya really oughta try a little fuzzy logic,
rather than that ole clean cut, black & white, intolerant, discrete
logic. Take a month off, get the ole stubble goin', and I guarantee all 
this self-prostitution talk will be revealed as just a product of the
stress of having to pay the house, car, & medical bills. 

(What'dya mean ya can't take a month off? See -- "stress.")

|] My one and only question about the man is:  Who will protect me from
|] H.Ross Perot if he becomes President?
| 
|The Congress and the Supreme Court. Checks-n-balances, remember ?

Hahhh! Trust who?! 

Best way to really impact this house of cards economy (and the political
parasites that have become ensconced) is to boycott. General boycott --
don't drive no more than you have to -- don't buy any entertainment --
don't do any overtime -- stick the money saved in a safety deposit box.

The superpower war economy has to be cycled around as quick as possible 
to expand the economy. That's why soc-security, defense, and debt payments
are so important -- cause that money would normally be handled much more
slowly if left to individual choice. 

The mechanism is to take common sense frugality out of the equation, and
put in institutions who's motive is to do the best they can regardless of
resources.

If you want to really protect yourself, ya' gotta first get rid of the
leeches. Biggest leech we got are the "institutional investors" with their
"100% risk-free returns." Wanta bet where Perot's money is at?

Guess what? Goverment treasury notes are at a 20-year low -- no one's
buying -- especially foreign investors. That means that all the federal
budget deficit-financing is going to have to be picked up by the taxpayer.
 
Best way to protect yourself from the "borrow and lend" demopublicans, 
and anyone else who want's to pay off the abuses of the old-boy politicians
-- which right now looks to include Mr. H.R. Perot (or was that J.R.Ewing?)
-- is to take an extended vacation. Fuzzy logic at it's finest here folks. 

|Wouldn't it be nice to not have half of Congress exhibiting a
|fanatical loyalty to an Executive branch they're supposed to keep
|a check on ? 

For the most part I do agree with Mr. O'Connor. I will support Ross
Perot this time to help complicate and pluralize the political 
process -- fuzzy it up. 

Ain't no way though, that I'm going in with my eyes closed, Ross Perot 
doesn't want Uncle Sugar's interest payments to be jeopardized, (in
my admittedly anarchic opinion). Remember his "60% comes due in the
next 5 years" comment. Damn straight it does. So take a vacation and
let the people who voted themselves *100% guaranteed return -- on what
should be a risk* figure out how to pay it. 

Of course, they'd prefer we each had to work 2 jobs apiece, both 
husband and wife, and shove the rest off on the kids.

Screw cable payments, eating out, mall crowds, traffic jams, airline
shuffles, and war-on-whatever. Oh yeah, that also goes for competing 
with the Japanese in a race to old age. The government has got its
tentacles in all of it. I'd rather do without and starve off the 
parasite -- rather than be part of it. Weird to think that the most 
patriotic thing I can do is quit, and take an extended vacation.

If Ross wants me to "sign on," he better damn well come out with a 
just way of dealing with the debt. Mine is to throw the crooks who 
have been voting themselves "100% guaranteed" returns on government 
issues -- straight into jail. As yet, I have no reason to believe Mr.
Perot isn't in this crowd who think the Silent Majority is a bunch 
of cattle to milk for whatever seems like a good idea.

There is no scam bigger than this "100% sure deal."

If the answer is work harder to pay off the debt -- 
well... Doom on ole Ross too. Atlas is now on vacation.

/ Stephen D. Tice \     |     /  Member in good standing of the  \
)                 (  -- S --  )         = Fuzzy Party =          (
\ Arlington Texas /     |     \   and the Alternative Alliance   /

            <Lao Tzu icon goes here>
Xref: sparky talk.politics.misc:18079 alt.society.civil-liberty:3428