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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: On ice ads
From: caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca
Date: 10 Oct 92 00:50:00 MDT
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta

In article <Bvt6tq.E1w.1@cs.cmu.edu>, lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico) writes:
> I want to ask your opinion, netters.  How do you feel about on ice advertising?
> 
> For those of you who saw the KBL or ESPN broadcast of the Pens-Flyers game,
> you saw that Bob Johnson's quote "It's a great day for hockey" has been
> removed from the ice.  But what is on the ice (in addition to the Pens 
> logo) is the word "Foodland" in bright red.  Foodland is a local grocery store
> chain.
> 
> I thought this looked rather tacky.  The boards and the rest of the arena are
> used for advertising, and that's fine.  There's a lot of revenue to be made
> that way.  And I'm sure Foodland paid big bucks to get its' name on the ice.
> And Baldwin said in yesterday's Greensburg Tribune Review that this works out,
> he'll sell more ice space.  But I think it looks cheesy, and more ads would
> make it worse.
> 
> I guess I'm being old fashioned.  I just think ads don't belong on the ice.
> How does everyone else feel about this issue?

I think it's pretty tacky as well. How long before they start painting ads in
the outfield at baseball games? On basketball courts? On football fields? Etc,
etc. Enough is enough already. 

								Alan
From: cooper@seismo.CSS.GOV (Dale Cooper)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: How 'bout them Whalers?
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:18:45 GMT
Organization: Center for Seismic Studies, Arlington, VA


In article <1992Oct15.133011.5322@morgan.ucs.mun.ca> tconnors@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Tim Connors ) writes:

[initial complaints deleted]

>Also, what kind of fan support can you expect from a team
>named after slow, fat, boring mammals? At least its fitting...

Actually the Whalers were named after those wild and crazy guys who used to
all get together, slam a few brews in port, then head out to sea to harvest
these slow, fat, boring mammals that you speak of.  You know, "Barnacle Bob,
the sailor..."

You may be confused with the Penguins.  

		(yuck-yuck-yuck  sorry, couldn't resist...)

Dale Cooper				"Dale Hunter is God...
Center for Seismic Studs		    ...but you knew that already"
Arlington, VA
From: abcs3500@Oswego.EDU (Bill Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Broadcasters' bacon (was: Flyers-Penguins)
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:06:44 GMT
Reply-To: abcs3500@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Bill Wood)
Distribution: na
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY


One thing I thought was interesting about ESPN on opening nite:
Jim Schoenfeld was color commentary.  Not to blatantly rip on him-- Schoney
was a great coach in Rochester, but a few comments:

  1. did the officiating crew send a box of doughnuts to the pressbox for him?
  2. Is he going to be doing alot of games??  He sounded pretty good, but
he doesn't have the right voice for announcing.  Maybe he should stick to
his City Mattress commercials.

Bill

Hcokey season has started: let's get the puck out of here and get to a game!!
From: pp21+@andrew.cmu.edu (Paul Andrew Platosh)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: How 'bout them Whalers?
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:03:28 GMT
	<54822@dime.cs.umass.edu>
Organization: Sophomore, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>Does anyone know where Jimmy Roberts and Rick Ley are these days?

I think Rick Ley is still with the Vancouver organization as an
assistant coach.  I don't know what happened to Roberts, though.
==Paul Platosh
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Borschevsky (wasRe: NHL STATS FOR OCTOBER 7th)
From: caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca
Date: 10 Oct 92 00:57:01 MDT
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Oct8.134231.19095@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, migod@turing.toronto.edu (Mike Godfrey) writes:
> In article <1992Oct8.112802.18681@scott.skidmore.edu> mmilitzo@scott.skidmore.edu (matthew militzok) writes:
>>NHL STATS FOR OCTOBER 7th 1992 
>>
>>---NAME---      CLUB    GOALS   ASS     PTS     PP      SH     GW GT
>>N.Borschevsky   TOR *   2       0       2       1       0       0 0
> 
> Borschevsky is 27, so I think he's too old to be considered a rookie.
> 
> -- 
> Mike Godfrey	          "I will not expose the ignorance of the faculty.
> Dept of Comp Sci, UofT     I will not expose the ignorance of the faculty."
> migod@turing.toronto.edu			   	-- The Simpsons

He's still a rookie. A rookie is a player in his first season. He's just not
eligible for the Calder Trophy, that's all.

The only player I can think of that was never a rookie was Wayne Gretzky.
There's a long story behind that one....

								Alan
From: lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Congrats to Ottawa, too!
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:33:48 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

First Tampa Bay pulls a big upset, and now Ottawa.  This is great.  

How long did it take the Sharks to win their first game?  I'm not belittling the
Sharks, I'm just curious.

Lori
From: coop4y44@bnr.ca (Robb Keayes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Vancouver news?
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:21:21 GMT
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

There doesn't appear to be much being said about the Canucks theses days in 
r.s.h.  As i'm stuck out here in the hinterland, I don't get much news from the
homefront, and would really appreciate some good gossip from the Canucks camp.
Anyone got a run-down on the Canucks thus far?  How were the individual performances in the pre-season?  Any rookies to watch out for?

Bure's off to a good start; Could he be the first 50-goal, 100-point man in
Canuck's history?  Damn right he could.

Go Canucks!!!!

Robb Keayes
Bell-Northern Research,
Ottawa, Ontario
(but my heart belongs to SFU :)
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From: sstolten@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Scott Stoltenberg)
Subject: STATUS:Cam Neely??
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:02:58 GMT
Keywords: Injury?

Help!!!  I have picked Cam Neely in a fantasy hockey league draft and
I have to decide now whether to a)put him on the IR list  b)keep him active
c)release him.  I haven't seen his name in any scoring columns and I don't 
know if he has returned from his injury.  Any informations would be 
greatly appreciated.

Scott Stoltenberg
sstolten@s.psych.uiuc.edu
From: hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Bob Sweeny becomes a Sabre
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:16:08 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Oct13.170206.13410@ll.mit.edu> tz@ll.mit.edu (Taras Zommers) writes:
>In article <Bw2CqK.n4A@acsu.buffalo.edu> rwinkel@acsu.buffalo.edu (Robert Winkel) writes:

>>We will, while we're riding through the playoffs and Boston is on the golf
>>courses teeing off.
>
>If you mean because everyone is close to the cellar at this point in the
>season, fine.  But if you think that Boston is a cellar contender you
>really have a problem.  Perhaps you forget that it is the Sabres that have
>this internal fear of passing the first round of the playoffs.  Considering
>that the major change from last year to this one is minus Bob Sweeney and
>plus Dmitri Kvartalnov (and hopefully Cam Neely in a month) I don't picture
>a jump from Adams Division playoff champs to Adams division cellar.  Let's
>get real.
>
Reality check.  No, unless Bob Sweeney was holding back 50% or better
in Boston, Bob Sweeney will not lead the Sabres to the cup.  As a
member of a team, though, his contributions probably won't hurt the
Sabres.

As for the bruins' changes consisting of the loss of Sweeney and the
addition of Kvartalnov and a return of Neely in the near future . . .
That's just it.  They haven't changed.  The Adams is an up-tempo
high-speed division nowadays, for the most part.  It features players
who can skate well and fast.  The Sabres have added a goaltender,
rejuvenated the skills of another goaltender, eliminated some dead
wood, added the majority of their roster since camp last season, and
are a completely different team than they were 365 days ago.  Look for
names like Khmylev and Gordijuk to appear in the scoring, along with
Boucher and a host of other names that weren't around last year.  It's
presumed Pat LaFontaine will have an intact jaw this year and play
eighty games rather than fifty-something.  The Sabres took the Bruins
to seven games in the first round last year and could have taken the
series.  Any honest fan will tell you that.  There's one big change,
though, for Buffalo:  This year they're playing with more heart than
they ever have.  I haven't seen the Bruins play.  Maybe they'll cruise
through the division, beat up mercilessly on Buffalo and win the Adams
in the playoffs.  I'm no Nostradamus.  All I'm saying is that 
there have been changes -- some of them big changes -- in Buffalo and
if Boston is still primarily the same team, well, Buffalo is
considered a team on the rise.  If they were a close match for Boston
last year, they might be better this year.  Words to the wise: don't
woof, because you may come to regret it later.  I'm not saying Buffalo
is better than Boston, just that Buffalo has made changes.  We'll see
if they've been for the better or not, be it Sweeney or Hasek or
whomever.  





-- 
Valerie Hammerl               	Underemployed technical writer seeks
hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu        job in North America.  Willing to 
v085pwpz@ubvms.bitnet           relocate.  Can begin any time.
SUNY at Buffalo ASCIT Consultant for yet another semester (sigh).
From: rickp@exucom.com (Rick Prochaska)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: PREDICTIONS ANYONE?
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:43:46 GMT
Organization: ExuCom MultiMedia Inc., Buffalo, NY

In article <5468@balrog.ctron.com> mattb@olympus.ctron.com (Matt Brown) writes:
>(matthew militzok) writes:
>
>>	I will make a prediction for the adams division.
>
>>			1.  Montreal
>>			2.  Buffalo
>>			3.  Hartford
>>			4.  Boston
>>			5.  Quebec
>>			6.  Ottawa
>
>>Might as well go out on a limb.  Despite the Bruins preseason record,
>>I feel that lack of depth on defense and other personnel, will prove
>>to catch up with them.
>Looks like a twig to me. Regardless of the Bruin's exhib. record or any
>problems, what in God's name will propel Hartford to 3rd?

Quebec has a new high-powered offense and strong goaltending with Ron
Hextall, all due to the Lindros deal.  Hartford is weak and
inconsistent in all areas, and with the continued decrease in fan
support, the possibility of the franchise moving looms on the horizon.
Boston always finds some way to win, and the Habs are looking poor
early in the season...  so with the Sabre's new found depth at centre
in mind, and with all the new foreigners, here are my picks...

		1.  Buffalo
		2.  Boston
		3.  Montreal
		4.  Quebec
		5.  Ottawa
		6.  Hartford



Rick Prochaska
(Nucker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico)
Subject: Hey, hey, Tampa Bay!
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:36:37 GMT

Wow, what a way to start!  By beating (convincingly) a Stanley Cup finalist.
Tom Wilson must be grinning from ear to ear.  

I did see though, that Wendell Young let in a very flukey goal.  I guess some
things never change.

Lori
From: daoust@bcarh13c.bnr.ca (Claude D'Aoust)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Help wanted: Goaltender's name
Keywords: Golatender, Quebec, Bruins 73 shots
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:26:58 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

Question: who was the Quebec Nordiques goaltender who faced 73 shots
yet gave up only 3 goals against the Bruins in a 3-2 loss? Was it
Ron Tugnutt or Scott Gordon? 

Speaking of Tugnutt, anybody knows where he is nowadays? 
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: moyj@lib403.its.rpi.edu (Jayson Moy)
Subject: Re: Where is Ty Domie?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:26:11 GMT

Tie is currently riding the pine until he makes his season debut

against the Detroit Red Wings in Decemeber.

There he will come out:

	a) Helmetless
	b) On Messier's Line
	c) With Steel Tipped Gloves

And then he will proceed to get his ass kicked by:

Bob Probert

And therefore will lose the NHL Heavyweight Title.

This is a public Service Announcement

:-)


Jayson Moy
moyj@rpi.edu
Let's go Rangers!!!


Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: dstein@amalthea.math.ucla.edu (David Stein)
Subject: Re: Jarmo Myllys & European Goalies
Reply-To: dstein@amalthea.math.ucla.edu (David Stein)
Organization: UCLA, Mathematics Department
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 06:47:35 GMT

  This reminds me--is Hasek playing for Buffalo now or is he again 
  on the bench?

 - David

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'm not a native speaker of English, so I'm not sure what I wrote.
Flames will be ignored unless you post them in perfect Czech.
================================ - David (the metamathician) - ===
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: mjmelvil@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (mark)
Subject: Re: Maple Leaf Gardens
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:09:14 GMT

In article <92Oct09.164848.17229@acs.ucalgary.ca>, parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
> In article <BvoGz8.L1u@acsu.buffalo.edu> v165nqxp@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Joe Mikolic) writes:
> >I've finally been able to get tickets for regular season Leafs game.
> >However, the only tickets I could get were standing room only. Could
> >anybody familiar with Maple Leaf Gardens give some advice on where to
> >stand in the Gardens?  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >Joe Mikolic
> 
> The Leafs sell out? Is this some kind of sick joke?
> I am quite serious. Nothing against the Leafs especially,
> but they've been so awful for so long that it's hard to believe
> that seats would be worth anything.
> 
> -- 
> Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
> separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
> struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
> gourd. --Unknown net.person

Excuse me but Toronto is a real Hockey town, unlike some of the other cities
in the NHL - New Jersey, Hartford, etc who get 8000 fans on opening night.  I 
noticed a couple of days ago that the Devils got 17000+ fans...I wonder if
it was a coincidence that the Rangers were in town ?????

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GO LEAFS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mark melville
university of waterloo class of 94
mjmelville@descartes.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:02:30 EDT
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Pens extend streak over Sabres

In sports Tuesday night, the Pittsburgh Penguins defeated the Buffalo Sabres
6-5 to extend their unbeaten streak.  Once again, the Penguins played a
defensive third period and this time held on to win after having 39 shots on
goal in the first two periods, 22 in the second period alone.  Mario Lemieux
had another awesome night - 5 points!  He now has 14 points through 4 games.
(If his back holds up the entire season, he could very well have over 200
points)  I beleive that Stevens tossed in a couple, along with Murphy.
I thought Lemieux and Jagr had the other ones, though I could be wrong 'cause
my friend said that Needham got the other one.  The game wasn't on television
and I was listening to the radio while watching the Pirates at the same time.
Mike Lange was getting very excited about the Pirates, which I started to
wonder is this a baseball game or hockey game?!  The Penguins had a lead of
2-0, but trailed 4-3 almost midway through the 2nd period.  The Pirates then
started their 8-run outburst in the 2nd inning and the Penguins went on a run
of scoring 3 goals in probably what was somewhere around 3-4 minutes.  The
Civic Arena was really rocking.  It was like Pirates score - cheer!  Penguins
score - cheer!  Pirates score - cheer!  Penguins score again - YEAH!  The place
really was bonkers!  Pittsburgh loves its sports team, especially Mike Lange -
he seemed the most excited over both sports!  Ken Wregget got the start if
you're wondering why the Penguins allowed 5 goals tonight.  My assumption is
it was just time to give Barrasso a rest.  The 3 stars were 1, Lemieux
2, Stevens and 3, Anderchuck or was that Hawerchuck - I always get confused -
one of those two.  I thought Hawerchuck used to play for Winnipeg, I don't
know. (If someone can clear this up for me, I'd appreciate it! Thanks.)
Attendance was 15,855 or something like that, ending the sellout streak, which
probably was because of the Pirates...as far as special teams go, I'm not
exactly sure what happened there, but I know the 3rd Penguins goal to give the
Penguins a 3-2 lead was a power play goal.  I leave the rest to Lori for the
complete Penguins postgame report.  C-ya Thursday.

SABRES       2  -  2  -  1  =  5  (Record 2-2-0-4)
PENGUINS     2  -  4  -  0  =  6  (Record 2-0-2-6)

         Penguins home record : 2-0-1

                                                               -rob
From: hoebel@cs.rochester.edu (Lou Hoebel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Bob Sweeny becomes a Sabre
Date: 11 Oct 92 15:22:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Oct11.152212.13685
Organization: Computer Science Department University of Rochester

In article <16207@mindlink.bc.ca> Gordon_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Gordon Wong) writes:
>> Stephen Swann writes:
>>
>> In article <1970@hsdndev.UUCP> nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder)
>> writes:
>> >Well,it didn't take long - a whole pre-season - for the Bruins to realize
>> >that Bob Sweeny was/is a waste. .....
[deleted stuf]
>> A desperate, gasping need for experienced defensemen, most likely.
>>
>> I'm withholding judgement - Muckler and Meehan have really improved
>> the Sabres' talent selection process over the last couple of years, so
>> maybe they see something in him that we're missing (he had bad
>> relations with Boston management or coaching, or something like
>> that, didn't he?  Any idea why?)
>>
>
>
>Bob Sweeney is a centre ... not a defenceman. You are thinking of Don
>Sweeney.
Yes, another high scoring forward....2 goals in his first game, one shorthanded.
If Puppa is capable of having an "on" year...well it just might be something
wonderful in the Adams. Then again...this game was against the Whalers.
How would the amerks do with Draper and Nick the Neck in the pipes?
Are either of these guys in Rochester.

One another note....Brindamour is playing very well so far for
Philly. With Eric and Recchi getting the most attention, the second
line should have a fine year. The flyers defense looked so attrocious
in the first game...but a tad better against NJD.  The Devils had
two rookies on defense...the soviet looked lost and Niedermeyer got
burned by Eric. Could be a tough year in the Patrick. Will it
be NJD or the WASH that sits out this years playoffs?
The CAPS of course...its a bad year for incubents in the nations
capital.

-- 
->Louis Hoebel
  Computer Science Department 	hoebel@cs.rochester.edu
  University of Rochester       {ames|rutgers}!rochester!hoebel
  Rochester NY 14627            716 275 5414
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Subject: Re: On ice ads
Keywords: Foodland instead of the quote
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:16:10 GMT

In article <arbogastw.30.0@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu> arbogastw@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast) writes:
>No, seeing a player rammed into a FOODLAND logo and seeing a player glide 
>over a FOODLAND logo is two different things.
>
>As I said, the line between integrity and schlock is thin.  In this case, 
>you keep looking for that thin line, Sherri.  It starts where the boards 
>meet the ice.

Well, Warren, that's where *you* choose to draw it.  But you didn't give me
any reasons *why* you think that's where you ought to draw it.  *Why* do
you think it's okay that the ads are on the boards?  Simply because that's
the way it's been?

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
From: carrie@edwards.WPI.EDU (Carrie A Ayers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: STATUS:Cam Neely??
Keywords: Injury?
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:26:29 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: edwards.wpi.edu

In article <Bw0st0.C7y@news.cso.uiuc.edu> sstolten@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Scott Stoltenberg) writes:
>Help!!!  I have picked Cam Neely in a fantasy hockey league draft and
>I have to decide now whether to a)put him on the IR list  b)keep him active
>c)release him.  I haven't seen his name in any scoring columns and I don't 
>know if he has returned from his injury.  Any informations would be 
>greatly appreciated.
>
>Scott Stoltenberg
>sstolten@s.psych.uiuc.edu

I heard on the radio that his return was paramount.

I think those are the words they used.  WZOU, a Boston radio station
was trying to find out what his status was on opening night.  So they
decided they would call the Garden, well, somehow, they got a little
gift shop in Boston instead.  So the guy there read it out of the
paper for them.

Carrie
carrie@wpi.wpi.edu
GO INDIANS!!!!!!!!
GO ISLANDERS!!!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: twromero@McRCIM.McGill.EDU (Michael Lin)
Subject: Re: Pronounciation
Originator: twromero@damrod.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Organization: McGill Research Centre for  Intelligent Machines
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 21:55:25 GMT


In article <1992Oct11.141049.13330@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, vv1@dgp.toronto.edu (Marc J. Ouellette) writes:
|> tconnors@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Tim Connors ) writes:
|> > I hate it when I'm listening to a sports broadcast and some fool makes
|> >a big-time error in pronouncing a sports stars name. Not unknown
|> >players, thats to be expected, but not the stars. For example, I have
|> >[...a bunch of examples deleted...]
|> > An announcer should learn what he/she's talking about.
|> One that I wonder about is Mike Ricci.  Every sports announcer seems to
|> pronounce his last name as Ree-chee.  However, he and my girlfriend went
|> to the same high-school, and she said that they use to pronounce it as
|> Ree-See...
|> 
|> Marc


   However, it's what he likes to called as now that counts.
   Perhaps he now prefers to be called Ree-Chee to Ree-See.

michael