From: junglee@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Jung S. Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Nettiquette or Freedom of speech
Date: 27 Dec 92 01:40:00 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

jgl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Andrew T. Kim) writes:

>Sheesh.  Here we go again.

>Every once so often, we have some loud mouths screaming about Freedom of
>speech.  Pigs, that's something new.


>Mr. Jung S Lee, with all due respect to your love of Freedom of Speech, I
>should say that you are just hiding behind the gospel of Freedom of Speech
>to abuse the Net.  It is true you can say whatever you want to on the Net

First of all, how did I abuse the net?  The purpose of this net is for
various people to come together to speak loud about what they think
of. And I guess that you can do anything about it since you speak out
to let me know how you felt. You cannot say that you didn't do anything. You
practice your right of freedom of speech, didn't you?
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>and nobody can do anything about it.|  What I am talking about is a matter
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>of Decency.  If this USENET is such wonderful thing, we should show at 
>least some respect.  There are certain protocols and codes that you are
>encouraged to go by.  Personal messages, such as name-calling as witnessed

This wasn't personal message but to all to hear clearly that I would
say what I want to say what I feel and want to express in any way I
want. That is the freedom of speech. Nettiquette is something
arbitrary which is majority of people agree on. But you see that can
prevent people from speaking out on something which most of you don't
like to hear. Then how can one expect to furfill his right? When you
give one right to do something, you give it all. If you give right to
have abortion to people, you cannot say, "Well, you can have abortion
but you have to have permission from your parents or your husband".

>above, should be done through e-mail.  Anybody who has questions about
>USENET ettiquettes can refer to news.announce.newusers group.  

You are saying since it is not discussed or talked by majority people
, it's personnal. In those articles to some individuals, there was
something which gave us trouble all along in this newgroup. This
newsgroup has not been where anyone can speak loud and clear of what
he thinks and believes. As we both know, that kind of post has always
followed by something like you posted after mine. All I am saying is
this: Let me say what I want to say. I will take any criticism or
flame on what I said like yours. But don't give me bull shit about
nettiquettes. If you can post what you feels about Japan in s.c.j,
what's wrong with posting what I feel about some posters?

>It is not a law, so we can have different opinions about what the suitable
>topics are for a group.  IMO, the psychobabbles of Hyunsuk Seung is not so

Here we goes again. It is one of highest law allows one speak what he
feels and thinks of.  You want to stop me doing this. You better comes
with something equivalent or above. Otherwise, shut up and go home.  I
pay for what I am posting here. You want to kick me out of it. Better
buy a darn good lawyer.

>much out of place in this group, since he loosely touches many faucets of
>Korean cultures.  Using posts for what e-mail would suffice, however, is a
>clear violation of Network Usage.  If you differ, we can discuss it over
>here.  But if you think that you are free from criticism and advice from
>other netters, you are only kidding yourself.

I have never thought that I would be free of what I said. But I prefer
that than shutting up my mouth. Any advice is welcomed. 

>USENET is like other society you are living in.  Instead of enforcement of
>law, people are expected to behave based on honor codes.  On official
>USENET guide, it states "USENET is privilege, not right".  Don't confuse
>the Freedom of Speech to be the ticket to be rude.
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Hey, did I call you a PIG? How was I rude to you if I didn't attack
you by any mean.  Isnt' it because what you read doesn't pleased you?
How do one expect everyone like what you think and feels? Perhaps if
mine bothers you so much, you should have use kill command. But you
speak out. See it's your privilege not others. And the right to
practice is up to you.  And perhaps you could send me e-mail instead
of posting in the group. But Noooooo! I am very happy to have my voice
in this newsgroup. To write what I want to say is my privilege not
yours or any others. Like as you are given that privilege, everyone
is.

>Andy Kim


Jung Lee

Now what would you do? Post it again or e-mail me. If you e-mail, I would. 
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