From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: I DID giev up on the Amiga!
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Date: 22 Jul 92 00:15:28 PST
Organization: Amiga makes it possible

In article <1992Jul22.025609.11779@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
> In article <33215@cbmvax.commodore.com> daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
> >In article <mykes.09ag@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:
> >
> >>Now for the really sad part:  How many machines (models) has apple released
> >>this year?
> >
> >Apple came out with a new Quadra this year.  Those, and the laptops, were
> >reasonably interesting.  Things like LCs and Classics are just powered down
> >rehashes of old Mac IIs.
>
>    Of the five new Amigas that have been developed since 1987, how many of
> them are simply rehashes of the A1000?  Answer: three; A500, A2000, and A600.
> The other two (A3000 and CDTV) don't offer all that much more in the line of
> improvements; CDTV is basically just an A1000 with a CD-ROM drive, and the
> A3000 is basically an A1000 with built-in '030, FPU, SCSI port, and display
> enhancer.  (I'm not counting the A2500 systems, because those are hardware
> bundles and not new systems)
>

The A3000 is a significant new system, being much more of a 32-bit throughout
system than the A1000, A2000, or A500 (or bundles).  It is in many ways less
than an '87 Mac II (020), though.  Gosh, Apple released as many new machines
this year as CBM has since 1985.  This year.

> >>Why has Apple and NeXt come out with 040 based machine months and months ago
> >>while there is no 040 Amiga.
> >
> >Marketing.  Apple and NeXT required it, C= marketing decided for the moment
> >that the 3rd parties were doing the job.
>
>    Doing what job?  What is the world-wide installed base of '040 Amigas
> compared to the world-wide installed base of NeXTs or MACs?  Probably a hell
> of a lot smaller.  For a mass-marketed system like the Amiga, this is
> pathetic.
>

Wow.  Apple actually introduced a machine with 24-bit video standard (on the
motherboard) AND the CPU power to go with it...

> >>Why make Unix run on an Amiga instead of designing a real machine designed
> >>to run Unix well?
> >
> >The A3000 certainly was designed to run UNIX well.  Anything necessary to
> >make AmigaOS run well will also make UNIX run well, since they have the
> >same basic constraints.
>
>    Not quite.  AmigaOS runs very well on an A2000 with a 14Mhz 68020
> accelerator, 4M of RAM, and 40M SCSI hard drive.  No modern versions of UNIX
> will run at all on such a system, because it lacks an MMU, doesn't have enough
> memory, and hardly enough hard disk space to even load the Kernal (forget
> about swap space, local files, temporary files, device drivers, or anything
> else).
>

Whatever Unix needs, the Amiga OS kicks its but with the same configuration.
However, Unix has RTG, while Amiga OS doesn't.

> >Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests"
> ---
> | Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
>

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