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From: eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse)
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Subject: Re: QL: One Little Heart--The Real Ending
Date: 23 Nov 1992 21:24:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse)
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In a previous article, nova@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jennifer Baughman) says:

>Well, I won't give anything away to those who haven't seen the episode or read
>the script yet, but I do want to say...
>
>Ohhhhh Boy! *devilish grin*
>
>I can now sit back, satisfied that I know *whyinhell* Sam didn't get out the 
>window.  I'd just like to know *why* they cut that--it's much better and *much*
>creepier than the ending we got.  *sigh*  The networks never learn...

It wasn't the network that cut that.  It was DON!  I have this from
teh highest authority (Harriet).  It seems that Don has a tendancy to
cut what he considers ... unacceptable stuff.  The ending that
Debbie wrote WORKED!  It did NOT need changing.  They could have
cut the leap-in by a minute and then given us the longer version 
the following week.  It would not have been all that difficult
and the cost would not have been astronomical either (I think that
was Don's excuse).  Try to imagine how disappointed I was ae
end when I'd been especting this great scene and it wasn't there.
I literally screamed (sorry, Terri, I hope your ear has recovered
by now).

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From: vlcoleman@lescsse.jsc.nasa.gov (vicki coleman)
Subject: Re: QL: Meg Foster
Organization: Lockheed Engineering and Sciences
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:26:58 GMT

In <1992Nov19.195154.15300@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> pjm6z@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Dave Lister) writes:

>In article <Nov.19.12.43.28.1992.16482@gandalf.rutgers.edu> finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Tracy E. Finifter) writes:
>>I got from the discussion around here that Meg Foster played Laura,
>>Abigail's mother.  Who is Meg Foster, though?  Where have I seen her
>>before (I know I've seen those eyes somewhere before)?  What seems
>>to be so special about her?
>>
>>Any help is appreciated...
>>
>A couple of places that I can remember seeing her is in an adaptation of the
>Scarlet Letter, she played the lead female role (the name of the character
>currently is a blank) and she was in the John Carpenter film They Live.
>Thats all I can think of right now, hope this helps.

>Dave Lister
>lister@virginia.edu
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She also played Evilyn (sp?) in _Masters of the Universe_.
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From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Deliver Us From Evil....
Date: 16 Nov 92 03:45:56 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Nov12.071256.9506@news.duc.auburn.edu> morrison@eng.auburn.edu writes:

>SPOILER ALERT for "Deliver us From Evil"...


















oneil@guvax.acc.george writes:

>> One last intersting theory is that Alia and Zoey come from an 
>> "alternate" future to Sam and Al's. 

>Oooooooooh, I like this theory! But take it one step further: what if 
>at some point in the future, Sam & Al were to accidentally alter history 
>so that Project Quantum Leap was still conceived and implemented at
>Stallion's Gate, but by Alia & Zoey INSTEAD of Sam & Al! That would
>account for the striking similarities between the two projects, and it
>would also give the "Evil Leaper" some motivation: namely, their
>existence. :)
>   What's the old quote? "We have met the enemy... and it is us". 

Oooh, I can just see the end of the teaser scene for that episode...
Kind of like the Leap For Lisa bit.  Sam is in mid-leap, he's waiting
for Al to bring him the information to pull his butt out of the fire...
but instead, through the imaging chamber door steps Zoey.

Oh boy?  Oh sh*t, I'd say.  :-)

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From: naran@fraser.sfu.ca (Travers Naran)
Subject: Re: QL: Good, Evil and religion
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:59:29 GMT

cgallagher@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
>	Ever since DUfE, there has been alot of discussion of whether 
>or not Zoe was being literal when reffering to climbing through hell 
>to get the DUfE assignment.  We will obviously have to wait until the 
>next Alia episode to find out, but what about Sam as the agent of 
>good?  Has anyone noticed that the shots of Sam in the accelerator 
>make him look alot like Jesus Christ?

I sort of noticed that. There has been quite a few "God"ly references in QL. I
dislike the idea of firmly establishing the idea of God in the series because
it takes away the mystery and the fun. You know, sure Sam, you could pretend
there is no God, but whathappens if there is? Etc. :-)

Anyways, I was a fan of Total Recall because you just couldn't absolutely say
one way or another that the guy really was dreaming. :-)

Anyways, that Hell reference raised a few questions in my mind:

a) If there are from "Hell", do they actually use a man-made accelerator or
does the Devil dabble in Quantum Physics? (I remember a Usernet Oracle to that
effect once.) :-)
b) If in the future, it seems kind of odd that
   1. They would want to go around happily doing evil and
   2. That they think they could get away with killing Dr. Becket.

Of course, thank God Einstien is dead, for if he was alive now, he would surely
be dead on watching the series. :-)

(For those who fell asleep in high school science: Einstien did not like Quatum
Physics and did not believe it to be valid, also, he was quite opposed to the
idea time travel was possible because of the "Shoot you Grandfather" Dilemma.
That is, you go back in time, shoot your Grandfather, what happens to you?)

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From: jbiag@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Jonathan D. Biag)
Subject: Re: QL: Who to contact at USA for ep info?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:28:56 GMT

essig@sleepy.EEAP.CWRU.Edu (Robert A. Essig) writes:

>Does anyone out there in net.land know who to contact at USA Network to
>find out about QL broadcast schedules?  I'm attempting to get the entire
>series on video tape, and would like the eps they're planning on dropping.
>A phone number or address would be greatly appreciated.

>Thanks,
>   Bob

Actually, I would appreciate it if I could have a copy of the schedule also.
Thanks..

jbiag@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu

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From: ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marius   )
Subject: Re: highlander songs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 05:34:14 GMT

The Highlander soundtrack was originally released under Capitol records.
Queen, obviously too smart to pass up on the publicity, released the
studio tracks under their own album, *A Kind of Magic*.

To wit:

(1)  One Vision (general music -- appears in bar in Highlander II)
(2)  A Kind Of Magic (credits)
(3)  One Year of Love (bar scene in Highlander I)
(4)  Pain is so Close to Pleasure (unknown)
(5)  Friends will be Friends (I hope this wasn't in either movie)
(6)  Who Wants to Live Forever (Love theme, also Heather's theme)
(7)  Gimme The Prize (Kurgan's theme)
(8)  Don't Lose Your Head (Kurgan's joyride with Brenda in the car)
(9)  Princes of the Universe (title theme for Highlander movie & series)
(10) Forever (love scene - Connor/Brenda, instrumental of track 6)
(11) One Vision - Extended Vision (remix of above)

The album is really good... songs appear somewhat altered however.

Capitol has degraded the soundtrack to 'cutout' status -- good luck
finding it anywhere.  (Maybe on vinyl)

For anyone interested enough to go searching --

	A Kind Of Magic
	Queen
	Hollywood Records
	HR-61152-2
	1986, 1991

Good hunting.

*** Keep this thread alive! ***
*** Highlander was too good ***
*** a concept to let die -- ***
*** it's better to burn out ***
*** then to fade away! (ha) ***

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(Sven E. Skoog)
Chemical Engineering
University of Illinois
ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

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From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Subject: Re: QL: Love that Swiss Cheese memory
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:16:29 GMT

Rick Thibeault, UMPI <RICK@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:


>>Don't you just love the fact that Sam remembers that Magnum was on
>>for 8 years, but can't remember Donna?

>>obviously Magnum meant a great deal to him.

>Just because Sam remembers Magnum does not mean anything.  His memory
>is stimulus and response.

Rick, you have no sense of humour.

Besides, if he married Donna in 1984, surely after 10 years
of memories with her something would remind him somewhere?
It's not as if he hasn't thought of here since Starcrossed.
In Black on White on Fire, he makes a remark to Al something to the
effect of "Only one other woman has ever looked at me like that."

I can only assume he meant Donna, unless he has some other
great love of his life lurking about somehwere.

LJC
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From: ps70awg@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (mel rupinski)
Subject: Re: QL: Monday night USA
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Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:05:17 GMT


In a previous article, nova@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jennifer Baughman) writes:
>WHAT????????? QL is on USA??????
>
>WHEN?????
>
>And yes, I'm going ballistic 'cause I haven't watched QL in years and I'm 
>kicking myself for it!!!!!
>
>__NOVA__
>_______________________________________________________________________________
>
>Ziggy ate my .sig.
>_______________________________________________________________________________


QL is on every Weekday on USA at 7 pm Eastern (6 pm Central -- dunno 'bout
the West Coast).  However, according to several posts I've seen, it is
subject to local blackouts (e.g. apparently some people are getting to
see it on Saturdays at the same time -- in the New Orleans area, and many
others, its not shown anymore :-{ ).  Also, USA appears to have gotten 
the order of shows screwed up, or has arbitrarily dropped some ep's

Just FIY

mtr  
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 19:39:45 EST
From: Jean Prior <JAP8@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Forever Knight fan club anywhere?

Subject line says it all.  Anyone with info if there is one, and how to get in
touch with it, email me.  If I get no replies within a week, I will set about
creating one.  Cheers, Jean

.sig not applicable to this group.
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From: guppy@wixer.cactus.org (Jennifer Mery)
Subject: QL: Monday night USA
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 09:34:39 GMT


I missed Monday's QL on USA. What episode was it? Is USA going to
continue to show Swamp Thing on Saturdays? If so, I'm gonna start taping
another show at that time.

jam
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From: il@bambam.u.washington.edu (Il Hwan Oh)
Subject: Re: QL: "DUfE": further observations
Reply-To: iho@cac.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Tacoma
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:06:21 GMT

A new topic.  Was this the first episode where Ziggy was referred to as
"she"?

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From: rat@StarConn.com ((The Rat))
Subject: Highlander TV Series - tapes wanted
Organization: Starnet-Public Access UNIX--Los Altos, CA  415-949-3133
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:23:21 GMT

Hi,

I'm looking for tapes of a couple episodes that I missed.  If someone
could help me out,I'd be glad to send tapes, pay postage, whatever.
Unfortunately, I don't know the titles, but I want the first episode and
the one where Duncan, Tessa, and Richie are stuck in a courtroom (I
guess that's where they are--somebody on the net was talking about
bodies (heads?) flying but I misplaced the posting.

Please send replies to rking@scopus.com, since I don't get mail at the
(starnet) address.

Thanks a lot,
Rat
rking@scopus.com

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From: ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marius   )
Subject: Re: Highlander
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 05:21:40 GMT

And would Kurgen then get a taste of some French meat?  :)
(FlameGuard:  no sexist comment here -- I'm referring to events from
the movie which have set a precedent)

Actually, I think that something noble should happen to Duncan.  As
I said before under an earlier post (note the name change here), it's
fairly obvious that Duncan is the most human of the immortals to be
revealed thus far (I kinda wish we had gotten to see more of Deverraux
from 'Free Fall' as he was a really interesting character).  As such,
he could conceivably be killed by a mortal -- and what would happen if
he were?  Quickening release - a mortal becomes immortal?  Or the
power scatters to the others left alive on the planet?  A recently dead
immortal is resurrected?  (The Quickening is very heavily suggested to
be a finite contained power on the world)  

Or maybe something could happen involving a battle on holy ground,
which is forbidden by all customs among the immortals.  Duncan could
kill (or be killed) at or in a church/temple/synagogue/etc, and we could
see some real fireworks (the Beast from Highlander I's conclusion would
be a distinct touch here).  I do think, however, that a cameo from 
someone in the original movie is mandated (and no, I'm not talking about
Connor's appearance in the pilot -- that's kind of an essential for
continuation purposes).  Fazeil returning is a good idea;  we could see
someone defeat DUNCAN for a change and leave him.  Aman Fazeil seems to
be the sort of guy who would take a head any way he could get it, though.
Maybe Castagir?  Or some new person?  (I shudder to think;  maybe we
could see Joan Jett come back with a vengeance and leave laughing although
the prospect would make me nauseous)

Does anyone have a complete episode guide?  Or info on upcoming episodes?

(I'm in the Champaign, Illinois area and our broadcasting is real nonspecific.
Hell, we're lucky to get the Star Trek season premieres out here -- more 
often than not they end up getting botched visually and/or audiowise.)

I heard (and NOT just from this group) that the maker of Ramirez's
katana (Misumori?  I have a tendency to butcher names here in case you
hadn't noticed) was going to be the primary guest star in Highlander III.
Whether or not he would be an immortal was unclear (although I assume he
would, as Ramirez's tutor and mentor)

Another thought (sorry to waste width)

What if somebody really famous were an immortal?  Say, Magellan, or 
Abraham Lincoln (what better way of staging your own death than having a
nonimmortal shoot you in the head?  You'd certainly survive it).  Some
scientist somewhere (similar to the 21 Jump Street star) whose eternal
life allowed him to shut himself up somewhere and focus on achieving some
major scientific accomplishments.  (Now he just has to live with the creation
of the atomic bomb on his conscience...)

Sounds like a good idea for some publication in whatever media suits...

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Sven Skoog
(Marius)
ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

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From: finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Tracy E. Finifter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL: "DUfE": further observations
Date: 18 Nov 92 02:49:06 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.tv
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

kay@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (k) writes:

>In article <1992Nov17.190621.21173@u.washington.edu> iho@cac.washington.edu writes:
>>A new topic.  Was this the first episode where Ziggy was referred to as
>>"she"?
>>

>Oh heck no.  In "The Leap Back" (which was, what, last season's opener?), 
>Ziggy was shown, and her voice was most definitely female.

'Tis true, but Ziggy was still referred to as he.  As Sam says when we are
first introduced to Ziggy (avoiding pronouns at all costs):

	"Why did I give him Barbara Streisand's ego?"
			^^^
All throughout the fourth episode, Ziggy was referred to primarily as "he".
Even in "A Leap for Lisa" (season four's close) Ziggy is referred to as both
he and she.  I think the question of whether Ziggy is a he or a she is
pointless though, in the long run, because Ziggy is an artificial, created
mechanism, not a living organism, no matter how many temper tantrums he/she/it
throws.

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Subject: Re: QL: References to Magnum, PI
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 14:06:59 PST
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

ps70awg@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (mel rupinski) writes:

<Referance to Magnum PI delete to save bandwidth> 
> Does anyone know of any other references to Magnum, PI (or any other of
> Don B's shows, for that matter)?  I think this is pretty interesting. . .
> 
> Thanks ----
> 
> mtr
>  

Another Mother-The daughter wants to get in the house quickly because she'll
               miss "Magnum".  Then later she is watching "Magnum PI", and
               tells her brother that Thomas Magnum is a "real man".  We
               also see a fairly long scene from the show as well.

Then, of course, there's Don wanting to do a Magnum/QL crossover for this
season premier but Tom Sellek didn't want to do it.


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From: firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith)
Subject: Re: Star Trek - TNG mail group
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 01:39:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.191644.1772@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu> cgallagher@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
>In article <2B082298@ssd0.laafb.af.mil>, KitchenRN@SSD0.LAAFB.AF.MIL writes:
>> Could somebody tell me if there is a mail group for Star Trek - The Next 
>> Generation?  I don't have BITNET access, so if there is an Internet 
>> address, I would apprectiate that.  You can e-mail if you don't want to post 
>> the answer.  Thanx.
>> 
>> Rick Kitchen
>> kitchenrn@space.laafb.af.mil
>> 
>
>
>	If there is a ST:TNG mailing list, pleadse post.  I'm sure 
>others are interested too.
>
>Thanks
>
>Colin
>


I don't know if there's a mailing list, but all interested parties should try
posting this query on rec.arts.startrek.misc

Firestar


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From: epc@cs.nott.ac.uk (Elvis Presley's Corpse)
Subject: Re: B7: Relationships list
Organization: Nottingham University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 19:58:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.095822.61083@cc.usu.edu> sll28@cc.usu.edu (Lorna
Payne) writes:

> Blake and Jenna (obvious attraction evident in The Way Back. Behave warmly,
> but discreetly, throughout the first two seasons.  Appear to be on very
> comfortable terms with each other--Blake walks in still buttoning up his
> shirt in The Web (?), they exchange jokes in "Weapon", and Jenna refuses
> to leave Liberator without Blake in "Star One".)  

I think this is quite an interesting relationship.  I'm not sure there
was really anything physical going on. I hadn't noticed the shirt
buttoning, but I'm sure there was a scene where Blake is woken up in
his sleeping quarters by the intercom and he's alone.  Mind you, the
Liberator didn't seem to have any double beds so maybe they slept in
their own beds cos it was more comfortable :-)

Jenna is chosen to illustrate "the death of a friend" in Duel so
presumably she is his closest friend on the ship.  However, Blake seems
to regard her only as a friend, not a lover.  Jenna is obviously
jealous of Cally joining the crew and of Blake's affection for Inga
but this seems to go right over Blake's head.  He doesn't seem to
consider that she could be anything more than a friend and so doesn't
realise he's making her jealous.  Either that or he doesn't appreciate
her possessiveness and so ignores it.

I think their relationship was one-sided; she fancied him (obviously)
but never actually told him so, and he either didn't want a
relationship or didn't think about having one.  Why?  Perhaps because
she believed in his cause, knew how totally dedicated to it he was,
and didn't want to be a distraction to him?  Blake was so dedicated to
fighting the Federation that he seemed to put all other things,
including love, out of his life.  Perhaps Jenna wanted to show him she
could do the same. Maybe she was waiting until they were both
uninvolved in the rebellion before making her move?

So, Lorna, I think this should definitely go in your relationships
list, though quite what their relationship was I'm not sure.  If they
were having a "'romantic' relationship" they were certainly the most
discreet couple of the series.

What does everyone else think?  

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