From: Don_-_Showen@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: Newage technology
Date: 7 Apr 92 11:22:22 GMT
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Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Hi folks,

Following is some email questions I received that I wanted to share with you.
Since it was email I am leaving the questioners name out of it.

>   You said that you research channeled information. I tried doing this
>myself but found that after mulling around with the words, I began to
>believe it. Maybe not on a literal level, but certainly see that there
>is some truth to what has been said. This is fine, but I run into
>trouble when I encounter two sources of opposing information. What then?
>    How do you discern the applicable truth in a message?

Good and pertinent question. One thing to remember is that information is just
information.  Rather than believing anything it is very easy to take a piece
of data (information) and run a simulation of as if it were true through ones
reality.  Notice, after you do it, if you feel good, inspired, uplifted,
and/or self empowered.  Even if you do,  you still do not have to believe it.
I have said that facts are nothing but petrified beliefs.  I have found that
the existence of channeling proves we are each infinite and immortal and that
beliefs are little more than anchors or bricks in our self imposed walls.
True channeling is removing the bricks and cutting loose the anchors. If
channeling IN ANY WAY insinuates right and wrong, limitations, or punishment
or pain from above it is not what I call channeling.  Although I have to admit
and warn that there is much being called channeling that is disempowering in
the same sense as religion and schooling.  With me it is cut and dried in
checking out channeling. I feel myself as I read it.  As soon as I do not feel
inspired, uplifted, and empowered I stop reading or listening.  Or if it is an
entity or collective of entities, that I normally trust, I cancel it from
entering my mind and accredit it to the channels limitations.  The real
message of the new age is we CREATE our own reality moment by moment and it is
imperative that we take responsibility for every thought that emanates from
our mind and, as important,  every thought we allow to enter our mind.
 
>    My current theory of how information is received is based in part
>upon the teachings of Lazaris and Nostradamus (sp?). He roughly says
>that information flows from the super conscious, through the
>unconscious, through the subconscious, and finally into the conscious.
>(The unconscious is the collection of past-future and parallel lives.
>Subconscious is the present storehouse of gathered experience.) Because
>of this, the words and even the concepts that can be expressed are
>bottlenecked and limited to the channel's personal experience.
>    Am I making sense? Are there any modifications you would suggest to
>this theory?

Well that is one way to get knowledge. It means the we each internally have
the answer to any question we ask ourselves.  Channeling.  But there is
another equally valid source.  This is what I call ET. intelligence. This can
be looked at in several ways.  First there is the concept of our high self
that (notice I did not use who) is seeding all our lives. Now it surely knows
some things we do not know and well worth establishing a relationship with.  I
see my favorite spooks as versions of my high self and learn from them
accordingly.

Then there is the possibility that we each have et aspects of ourselves extra
terrestrial highly intelligent and evolved aspects of ourselves that are
trying to get in touch with us.

Then there is the possibility that multitudes of entities and species are here
and showing up from all over the universe to play with us and share their
knowledge with us.  Hmmmm. That may be why government and religion want us to
be scared of ourselves, minds and spirit.  If we accidentally stop running the
treadmill and look inside a split second we may contact love and knowledge
that will cause church and government to loss control.

>    May I ask you a question of a personal nature? What is your
>background and how/who introduced you to the "invisible world"? 

Edgar Casey introduced me to reincarnation.  Scientology and an off shoot
called Eductivism introduced the idea of clearing the mind to increase ones
awareness and also the technology of assisting another to recall a past
incarnation.

Then over 500 people introduced me to immortality by willingly remembering
their past lives and sharing with me what they did after the body died. It is
impossible to communicate the profound effect that sharing death and the
point after had on me. Nobody has ever DIED.  Death is a healing experience.
Everyone walks away from their body sometime after they drop it. Do you know
that humans are the only living things in existence that do not know they are
going to reincarnate! That kind of says the piss ant has more spiritual
awareness the most humans or at least than Christians and Skeptics.

Then I stumbled upon Seth and he had some explanations for what I was
experiencing. He did an excellent job of explaining reincarnation, beliefs and
reality.

So any way after taking over 500 people through a past life, its death and the
point after I started wondering about birth.  I thought hmmm I understand the
death experience now I wonder what birth is about.  So because I create my own
reality I stumbled upon rebirthing got rebirthed and became a professional
rebirther. Rebirthing over a couple of hundred people. And receiving at least
100 rebirthings.  Birth is way worse than death.  After death we know we
survived. After birth we go through life wondering if we survived or getting
even. Neither a very optimum state.  I also rebirthed individuals and groups
with the drugs of their choice (they supplied them :-)).  This was some real
insight into the caverns of the mind. BTW of the couple of dozen I worked with
I never saw anyone go on a bad trip,  although lots of heavy stuff was
processed during the trip. Certain organic substances are truly the fruits
of the tree of life. Holy sacrament in its truest meaning.

After rebirthing I got involved in the Billie Meier UFO case Which I consider
valid and have received tremendous growth from the contact. And  in 1978
started being with Lazaris, reading Ramtha, and two years ago started
listening to Pleiadians tapes by Barbara Marciniak. I have heard over 80 and
been in their presence eight times.

>How do
>you sustain your belief in such things if they are regarded by those
>whom you respect as nonsense? 

Now that, to me is a relative to an oxymoron.  I could not possibly respect
someone who considers reincarnation, ETs or infinite life nonsense.  Beyond not
respecting them I limit the amount of their crap I allow to enter my mind. Deathist
mentality is a BORE. 

>Sometimes the content of the channeled
>information can never be verified with today's technology. To believe in
>them anyway is like placing your faith into a cauldron which you will
>never be allowed to see the contents of directly. How do you content
>yourself with such a position in life?

That shows me you are not using discernment in the channeling you listen to
and you are not clear about who you are.  The ONLY purpose of channeling is to
inspire, uplift, and empower. Anything else is not channeling.  The fifth
dimension is imagination.  All any channeling is for is to get us out of our
beliefs so we can use OUR imagination to accomplish OUR purposes on an
immortal planet that is truly the garden of Eden and nothing less.


>    I do not wish to pester or sound like a doubting Thomas. These are
>the questions I have had for a long time (I suppose 17 years isn't such
>a long while) and feel that if I could just answer them, I could get on
>and do whatever it is I am here to do.

I understand, well.  You, unfortunately, will not discover your purposes
outside of yourself. I have had to peel me like an onion and get through and
clear mine fields of false selves to get in touch and trust who I am.  Which
is a perpetual process but perpetually fun.  I guess to sum it up, if it
feels good, do it.

>    I could not thank you enough for what you have already done to help
>me find the answers to at least some of these questions.

Thank you for saying that I am grateful for your acknowledgement and will
use your validation to encourage me to take more time to post.  I have made
and meant more friends on the net than any other activity.  I guess I will
admit that I love you net folks, even the Christians and Skeptics ; -).

Don Showen
H. 408-865-1768
W. 408-974-9544