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From: Bob Van Cleef <revc@Garg.Campbell.CA.US>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Rfiles banners - Waf1.65/Rf2.4
Keywords: rfiles banner
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 09:25:52 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Land of Garg

Hi;

I am having trouble getting the @banner files included in my listing
under Waffle 1.65 with Rfiles 2.4.  I believe my configuration matches
the documentation, but the final output text file does not include any
banner entries other than the advert.

Bob

---- dirs file - example entry ---

32      /dir="e:/linux"                 /access=1 /BANNER="@banner"

---- config.all - Rfiles configuration file for full listing ----

# settings file called by filelist.bat
/bios
/dirs=c:\waffle\system\dirs
/noblank
/nodirs				# do not include directories
/banner
/advert=c:\waffle\system\banner # advertise our bbs.
/dest=d:\public\allfiles.txt

---- the banner file does exist in the proper location ----

E:\LINUX>ls -l @banner
--w    773   2 Aug  8:26p @banner
E:\LINUX>

---- the Rfiles output - the banner option is enabled ---

C:\WAFFLE\BIN>c:\waffle\util\rfiles2 /config=c:\waffle\util\config.all
Rfiles v2.4--A File Listing Compiler for Waffle 1.65 (RFILES2/h for info)

Configuration file 'c:\waffle\util\config.all': okay
Setup - Bold text Yes Screen writes via BIOS
Files - Ftimes No  Hidden No  Banner Yes
                              ^^^^^^^^^^
Dir's - Hidden No  Denied No  Passwd No  Include <DIR>'s No
Ctrls - Access<=1 Privilege<=0 Groups None
Misc  - Include Summary Yes Blank line No
FScan - Filespec *.* Scanning hard disc only WFS mode No
Default info file @files Advertisment file /waffle/system/banner
DIRS file /waffle/system/dirs Destination file /public/allfiles.txt

/public  access=0, done
 [text deleted]
/comm/waffle  access=1, done
/linux  access=1, done
/linux/images  access=1, done
/ussr  access=1, done
 [text deleted]

--- any clues would be appreciatated ---

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From: William.Sanders@f665.n106.z1.fidonet.org (William Sanders)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: routing mail to newsgroups
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 08:07:28 -0600

Actually Terry I am loooking for Waffle 1.65 that I keep hearing everyone scream
about.  do you have it on your system?  Can I f'req it?
regards
Bill
From: jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: WAF165
Keywords: Waffle
Date: 29 Aug 92 02:49:29 GMT
Organization: The little node that could...

peterson@choctaw.csc.ti.com (Bob Peterson) writes:

> |> > And I tried installing it last night.  All it ever did was declare that
> |> > it had run out of memory and exit.  Running DOS 4.01 with BNU, I
> |> First of all, you have a known bad operating system.  Get an
> |> upgrade if you can.
>   Just exactly what problems would you expect under MS-DOS 4.01?
Bob,
     Unfortunately, Ian is correct. DOS 4.01 has more holes than swiss
cheese. He wasn't criticizing you, or users of 4.01, but it *is* a well
established fact that DOS 4.01 was the Little DOS that couldn't.

                                   Jeff

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From: Alan Millar <amillar@bolis.SF-Bay.org>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: TRUNCATED BATCH(es)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 23:35:54 PST
Organization: The Bolis Group, San Jose, CA

fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:
> In article <7e5XPB1w164w@bolis.SF-Bay.org> amillar@bolis.SF-Bay.org (Alan Mil
> |fenner@cmf.nrl.navy.mil (William C Fenner) writes:
> |> That's another point -- RFC's only apply to the Internet.  Since UUCP
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> |> connection != Internet, you can't point to an RFC and expect it to apply.
> |
> |This reasoning is why so many gateways don't work.  If everyone followed 
> |the RFCs in places where they are appropriate, we wouldn't have so many 
> |unreliable mail systems.
> 
> But some RFC's just _don't_ apply - like RFC821, and RFC822's suggestion of
> <CR><LF> seperated lines.  I wasn't suggesting to completely ignore the
> RFC's; I was just pointing that although the RFC's may be the bible of
> the Internet, they don't *necessarily* all apply to UUCP.

I agree with you here.  Your comment that "RFC's only apply to the Internet"
sounded like a blanket statement, which I *have* heard others propose
in the past.

Of course 821 doesn't apply to uucp, because 821 SAYS it is about SMTP :-)
However, 821 syntax DOES apply to bsmtp/rsmtp, which is becoming more common
in the uucp world.  RFC 976 is the RFC about uucp.  It says to use the
syntax of 822, but use LF as the terminator.

(* mounting soapbox *)

Folks, the term "RFC 822 compliant" DOES NOT mean that a mail system follows
RFC 822 verbatim.  It means that the mail system follows RFC 822 AND THE
RFCs WHICH SUPERCEDE AND/OR UPDATE IT.

You can't drive on the street based on a 1983 driver's handbook, even though
most of the laws are the same.  You can't sign up for college classes based
on a 1983 catalog, even though most of the classes may be the same.  You've
got to include the revisions since then.  You can't nit-pick an e-mail
implementation based on JUST RFC 822.  You've got to look at the later
RFCs.  It's not that hard, is it?

(* dismount soapbox *)

- Alan

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From: steve@presoft.com (Steve Kohlenberger)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: WAFFLE and NOVELL-Netware
Keywords: netware
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 01:31:30 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Presoft Architects

rettberg@geo.ol.ni.schule.de (Horst Rettberg) writes:

> In a few day I will get a Novell-Net V.3.11. Is there anybody, who has experi
> Please contact me or post here if you have some tricks for me.
> Moin, moin Horst

I have experience with and without share (and static file changes). 
Neither works perfectly for me.  I have been running Waffle on Novell
NetWare since I first installed it at the end of last year.  I have a
dedicated Waffle server making calls around the clock.

Yes, you do have to be careful about things like receiving email
via UUCICO while another workstation is in Waffle.  If UUCICO
receives mail for a logged in user actually looking at their mail,
the incomming message will get tossed.  UUCICO does not seem to blend
in with the rest of Waffle.

I have a batch file that keeps me from doing 2 uuxqts at the same
time.  Since my processors are at different speeds, the faster one
overtakes the slower one and they freeze with a sharing error. 
Sometimes the sharing error happends on the Waffle server and it
stops bu the workstation keeps going.  The result is that the Waffle
server dies until I happen to notice it.

I get somewhere between 5 and 15 meg per day in news.  Netware 3.11
(like 3.10) may run low on space during rnews execution since many
new files are being created and it takes a few minutes (settable
parameter) to release the old deleted space.  A rnews to handle 5 meg
of news for instance may require 10 meg of space before it gives up
the first 5 meg.  This means it needs 15 to have and process the news
even though you started with a 5 meg file and ended with 10 meg in
messages.


Steve
   
 Steve Kohlenberger, PreSoft Architects      Internet: steve@presoft.com
 Novell Professional Developer                            (714) 538-6002
 Specialists in NLM and Disk/Tape Driver development for NetWare 3.X/4.X
From: rjt@softin.lonestar.org (Richard Threlkeld)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: DOS "cron"/schedule - useless ??!?!?!
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 21:22:39 CST
Organization: Software Innovation, Arlington, Tx

system@precipice.chi.il.us (Vikki Welch) writes:

>   Starting to get serious about the system here and tried implementing
> the schedule feature.  Either I don't understand this or it is
> actually useless unless you have a tremendious volume of callers
> forcing the waffle to exit and restart - at least as often as you have
> schedules set.  If I read the DOS.DOC file correctly, this is how it
> is.
 
I use the schedule feature of Waffle all the time (nearly literally).  It 
seems to work pretty well for me.  I have seen reports that a scheduled 
event can happen during the modem's synching an incoming call, but this 
seems to happen rarely.
I would include a copy of my schedule file, but I have not figured out 
how to insert from an external file with this editor.  I should change 
the editor, but have not had time.  Please email me if you need copies of 
all the appropriate files.
From: randy@sierra (Randy Terbush)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: CMM (formerly EZ-mail) and Waffle?
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 08:19:09 CDT
Organization: Historical Trails Network

Has anyone had any success getting Cinetic Mail Manager (formerly 
EZ-mail) to work with Waffle?  If so, I would appreciate your response.

First problem encountered is the 2 mailbox scheme of Waffle 1.65.  The 
^@'s seperating messages prevents this mailer from seeing the From: line. 
This could be stripped out with another program, but I was wondering if 
someone had another approach.  Perhaps configurable mailbox type in 
Waffle?

Thanks for you help.

-Randy
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From: dawson@willard.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: HISTORY
Date: 2 Sep 92 05:09:11 GMT
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

Gee, I seem to have written this...

> The problems referred to have been corrected.  An updated version that will
> (hopefully) read the waffle and forums lines, no matter how obfuscated, is on
> its way to hogbbs, cowpas, and several other better-connected sites; the new
> file is names HISTORY1.ZIP.

I'm wondering... of those fellow Wafflers here who are actually running
mail archive servers, who offers an interface for RECEIVING program files?
Is there a reliable way for submissions to be made, or is my only out to
submit this stuff to comp.binaries.ibm.pc, alt.binaries, etc.?

-- 
dawson@willard.UUCP (Willard Dawson)
Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: wafl165unix COLOR & ENV patches
From: rthomas@hakatac.almanac.bc.ca (Robert N Thomas)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 14:01:10 GMT
Organization: Sir HackAlot's Castle BBS, Port Alberni, B.C., Canada


PATCH #1 COLORIZE YOUR WAFFLE:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I have just colorized my version of waffle 165 for unix {Sir HackAlot's
Castle BBS @ (604) 724-0067}, by adding some extensions to the existing ~% 
codes.  

~%0  ~%1  ~%2  ~%3  ~%4  ~%5  ~%6  ~%7    Selects character foreground colors.
~%,  ~%.  ~%;  ~%'  ~%<  ~%>  ~%:  ~%"    Selects character background colors.

     ~%H = High intensity colors,  ~%h = Select low intensity colors



PATCH #2 Waffle 165 ENVIRONMENT SMARTS:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I have EDUCATED waffle such that it now knows about the following 
environment variables and manages them as follows:

$HOME = Waffle sets $HOME to the BBS users ???/waffle/users/{username} 
        directory.  Once the user logs onto waffle, waffle will setup
        $HOME and cd to the users BBS HOME directory.

$SHELL= Waffle sets $SHELL to something sane like /bin/sh.  Normally when
        an account is setup with ???/waffle/bin/waffle as the account
        shell, $SHELL is set to ???/waffle/bin/waffle which creates a
        few nasty problems for me when I try and run external programs
        because the system does a "WAFFLE vi" or "WAFFLE game", instead
        of "sh vi" and "sh game".
        
$PATH=  My unix set up an extremely limited PATH setting.  When waffle is
        invoked, it sets the $PATH to whatever you specify.

$TERM=  My unix is one of those "strange" operating systems which likes
        a $TERM environment variable set, and also would like the 
        "tput init" command run (others: "tset").  If I don't do this,
        I can forget about running emacs and vi.

        When a user log's in, and selects a terminal via the STATUS command,
        the $TERM variable is automatically set to reflect this new setting,
        and "tput init" is run..



  My questions are:

1.  Does anyone know if this already has been done?? (AKA did I just
    re-invent the weel again????)

2.  How much interest is there for such PATCH's to be released in PD??

3.  Releasing this stuff to PD, will it create pain and torment to WAFFLE
    users when the next release of waffle comes out??  Thomas you there??
    (I suspect the EMAIL message I sent you is lost amongst the other 100-
     200 messages a day you receive?)


Cheers...


					----- Robb -----
From: duane.davis@gate.micromed.com (Duane Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Scheduler Needed
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:54:00 GMT
Reply-To: duane.davis@gate.micromed.com (Duane Davis)
Organization: Micro-Medic Network Gateway - +1 408 280-1610 - Public access BBS

>     I too ran the unix AT when I had Dos 3.3 -- it inserts
>a command line into command.com at a certain time of day/week/etc.
>Ie, "at 10:00 poll" would (if you're sitting at command.com) poll
>at 10 am.

>     Dos 5 breaks it.  Now I use a different method: With HDM

Have you looked at Painless Event Processor? It's by the same people 
that do Painless Accounting.

Works fine with DOS 5.0 and you can create complex key macros to start
up a program and enter the required keystrokes for those menued
programs that aren't "command line friendly".

If anyone wants it I'll put it up on my file server.

Please send any replies to 'system@micromed.com'. I don't normally use
this address.
From: a-dent@somenode.uucp (Bryan Hannahs)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: WAF165
Keywords: Waffle
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 15:16:20 EDT
Organization: .sdrawkcaB sgnihT gnipyT roF yteicoS ehT

eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder) writes:

> dlhpfm!dlh@NCoast.org (daniel lance herrick) writes:
> 
> -> Below are my config.sys and autoexec.bat files because you asked for
> -> them, and my static file because I think the fix is more likely to lie
> -> there.
> 
> -> 
> -> ------------------------static below----------------------------------
> 
> -> buflines     : 30000
>                   ^^^^^
> 
> Make this something reasonable, like 300, at most 1000.
> 
> buflines is the parameter that sets the limit for the number of lines
> in the edit buffer (even if you are using an external editor). 
> You have waffle is attempting to reserve the space for 30000 lines.

Just out of curiosity, I tried setting my buflines: to 10000 and got the
out of memory error. Seems to me, though, that I had tried the same
thing under 1.64 and didn't get the out of memory (and even with the
buflines set high, Waffle wouldn't let me quote a message of more than
100 lines or so, which would explain why the buflines: 30000 worked
under 1.64). Does this mean that 1.65 actually WILL quote as many
lines as you set the buflines: to?!!

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From: dkw@wolferts.ka.sub.org (Dr. Klaus Wolferts)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: sig length in waffle
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 10:36:21 MES
Distribution: world
Organization: Ing'Buro f. EDV + Elektronik, D-7500 Karlsruhe 31

Is there any restriction in the length of a sig in waffle (1.64)?

I remember to have read anywhere (where?) that a sig should not be 
longer than 4 lines. 

Now my sig is 5 lines as you see here (inserted into the posting with 
the editor)

--- cut here after (CR/)LF ---
 ____    __  __  __    __   __
|    \  |  |/ / |  | /|  | / / Dr.-Ing. Klaus Wolferts: dkw@wolferts.ka.sub.org
|  |  | |  | /  |  |/ |  |/ / Ing'Buro f. EDV + Elektronik  
| d|  | | k| \  | w| /|  | / Mitteltorstr. 45,            Phone: +49 721 706016
|____/  |__|\_\ |__|/ |__|/ D-7500 Karlsruhe 31, Germany,  4903'02"N 822'58"E

--- cut here ---

and I registered in the mean time, that the last line is omitted when 
waffle sends postings or mails (look at the sig at the end, inserted 
from Waffle). I even included another CR/LF at the end of the sig file 
but it doesn't help. 
Will Waffle restrict or cut the sig length to 4 lines? But I have seen 
many sigs in waffle postings/mails with (often far) more than 4 lines.

Any ideas?  Klaus.


 ____    __  __  __    __   __
|    \  |  |/ / |  | /|  | / / Dr.-Ing. Klaus Wolferts: dkw@wolferts.ka.sub.org

|  |  | |  | /  |  |/ |  |/ / Ing'Buro f. EDV + Elektronik  
| d|  | | k| \  | w| /|  | / Mitteltorstr. 45,            Phone: +49 721 706016
From: bdl@cruiser.uucp (Bob Lombard)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waf1.64-XT-HST/DS- only getting 350cps
Keywords: s l o w
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 19:34:50 PDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: what? me organized? no way!

raoul@fangio.wa.com (Jeff Benedict) writes:

> Hello, netters-

hi !

 
> I'm running a small site in Port Townsend, WA. USA.  My hardware is
> minimal- XT, 40 meg Rodime SCSI drive, HST/DS.  I'm using Waffle 1.64,
> BNU driver, 2K send/receive buffers, locked at 19.2K.  

I ran basically the same set-up (different Hard drive & worldblazer)
for 6 months or so..
 
> When I connect with my newsfeed, (nwnexus), I'm only getting 300-350 cps 
> max.  NWNexus has WorldBlazers and I connect at 14.4K. NWNexus is overloaded 
> and is in the process of upgrading (Thanks, ED!) but I also only get 300-350 
> when doing a UUCP transfer with halcyon.remote, which is using a T-2500.

about right for an xt.

 
> Others are getting 700-1000+ connecting with both halcyon.remote and 
> NWNexus.

I'd guess they're running faster boxes, 286/386's ?

In answer to your questions, the interrupt overhead is killing you on this
machine.  I actually suprised you're getting 300-350.  The best I ever got
was 280cps with BNU.

The difference with a 386 was -amazing- :) my feed now routinely runs
1300+ cps.

assuming you're not running a 'turbo' xt, you could perhaps do a hardware
hack on the processor clock & spped things up.  otherwise its new 
cpu time me boy!

good luck....



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From: jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Scheduler listing?
Date: 29 Aug 92 04:05:32 GMT
Organization: The little node that could...


     Hi folks! If I understand correctly, there is currently no way to
list off scheduled jobs from inside of waffle. Is this an accurate
assumption?

                                   Jeff

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From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Pulling external files into editor (was: DOS "cron")
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 01:56:58 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Waffle BBS, Clive IA USA, +1 515 226 2156

rjt@softin.lonestar.org (Richard Threlkeld) writes:

> I would include a copy of my schedule file, but I have not figured out 
> how to insert from an external file with this editor.  I should change 
> the editor, but have not had time.  Please email me if you need copies of 
> all the appropriate files.

If you are a priv=9 user, and using Waffle's internal line
editor, you can use the YANK command to pull in an external
file. I _think_ YANK clears the buffer before pulling the
file in, but I could be wrong (it's been a long time since
I've used that editor).

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From: mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us (mike batchelor)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle and FAX, who's done this?
Date: 25 Aug 92 01:58:45 GMT
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

king@rtsg.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist) writes:
>
> In the latest installment in the continuing series, "What's My Fax
> Software?", we look at the DOSFax Pro package by Delrina, makers of the
> infamous WinFax.  DOSFax is WinFax without Windows, essentially.
> 
> Bottom line:  Waffle sysops, look elsewhere.  Okay as a generic fax
> package, but totally incompatible with Waffle.

RATS!!!  I have a Scout+ V.32bis plus Group III, and it would have
come bundled with DosFAX Lite if it had been ready when the modem
shipped.  I got WinFax Lite with the modem, but a lot of good that does me.
I sent in the coupon for DosFAX to Delrina two months ago, but it looks like
I can stop holding my breath now...

HOWEVER:


c:\waffle\bin>rcvtif

 Usage : rcvtif port# workpath
                 ^       ^
                 3       @ rcved fax path
                 @ 0:COM1 1:COM2 2:COM3 3:COM4
 Error Level :
    -1 : No Carrier detected
     0 : Rcv fax succesfully
     1 : can not find path
     2 : can not connect with modem

c:\waffle\bin>


This looks promising, if I can only get Waffle to recognize an
incoming FAX call.  It is supposed to save the fax to a TIFF file -
what type I do not know.  I do not even know who or what produced this
program, one of my users uploaded it to me and says it works great.

Binary to follow.  Let me know if it works, and how you did it.



[] ---
[] Mike Batchelor -- mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us
[] Long Beach, California
From: jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: SHROOM
Date: 26 Aug 92 00:12:38 GMT
Organization: The little node that could...

king@rtsg.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist) writes:

> I just pulled down version 1.9c (7mar92) from one of the archive
> servers, either halcyon or giraffe.
I think 2.0 is available from SIMTEL. I'm having some kind soul send it to
me! (THANX!!!)
 
> Now my question is, how do I use it with Waffle?  I tried sliding it
> never actually swaps out when I do a shell.  Whassadeal?
From my LOGIN.BAT, using 1.6b:
[...]
c:\util\shroom -q -sc:\waffle\temp c:\waffle\bin\WAFFLE LOCAL
[^^^^^^^^^A^^^ ^B ^^^^^^^^C^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^D^^^^^^^^^^^^]
[...]

A= Path to shroom.
B= Quiet mode-- No status messages.
C= Swap directory
D= command+arguments.

> I'm running Waffle as a login under MKS Toolkit; might that have
> something to do with it?
Perhaps--- Shroom is a dos utility. MKS is a UNIX-style CLI, right? If so,
it probably won't work, but I'm guessing here.


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