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From: ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: EATING WORDS!
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:26:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: SLACVM.92246.092617ENVIRON
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Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <92246.032222343VTQ2@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>,
343VTQ2@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU (William Grant) says:
>off the table now.  Joe WHO????  IF he makes it back this season (and that's
>BIG IF) he's going go come out,  throw 3-4 lousy passes,  be booed off the
>field,  and Bono will come in and push him to 3rd string.  If the 49ers were

     Are you high?  Joe Montana could perform a ritual virgin sacrifice on
the field at halftime and he wouldn't get booed at Candlestick... I don't
think you understand the impact he has in the Bay Area.  People around here
physically shake whenever the word "retirement" is even whispered...

Brett
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From: jag@unislc.uucp (John Ganske)
Subject: Re: Moran signs
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:37:55 GMT

paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:

>   Man, what's up with Minnesota??!! I thought the Pack's first game, at home
>   against the Vikes, would be a very possible win. Now I just don't know.
>   Hopefully, they're using up all their points now and will be the same can't-
>   score-inside-the-20-and-end-up-kicking-a-few-FGs-every-game Vikings that
>   us Packer fans know and love. ;)

>   --salty
Man, it's great to be back where I know the enemy - those cheese-head
Packer fans.  Maybe this year Dennis Green will make sure that the
Vikings actually show up for their games with the Pack.  At least the
fans showed up - the problem was it seemed that there were always more
Packer backers than Viking faithful in the damm Dome.  The Dome was
also a very hospitable place for the Packers - the Vikes usually rolled
a red carpet (over the defense) into the endzone.

May the (real) games begin!

John Ganske      -------------------------
a readheaded dad, vegetarian, cyclist, runner, volleyball player,
programmer, and all-around good guy, glad to be back in Minnesota
and soon to become small-time (very small-time) farmer 
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Roseville, Minnesota                    612 635-7545  
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From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Final Cardinals Roster anyone?? Also-A Thompson Trade rumors?
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:52:24 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <1992Sep2.123223.8847@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> erk@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (eric.r.kierstead) writes:
>Also--now that Jonny Johnson has signed, are the A. Thompson
>trade rumors heating up again??? Sounds like a great idea.
>Johnson and Thompson are too similar to keep both (i.e. very good
>rushers, OK receivers, miserable blockers).  The Cards need

Johnny is actually a better receiver than he has shown in Phoenix, because
bugel's system doesn't involve throwing to the backs until 3rd down. 
Johnny played flanker as a soph at San Jose State, and then RB as a junior
caught over 60 balls. Played fullback as a senior before being kicked off
the team, but you're right that he can't block. 

They had wanted to play both he and Thompson together last year but it
never really surfaced, I think maybe Johnson and Ivory Lee Brown will
get more time, so Thompson could be traded.




Russ Smith
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From: fineberg@wupost.wustl.edu (Charles M. Fineberg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: FTP Site for complete 1992 NFL schedule?
Date: 31 Aug 1992 16:31:24 -0500
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: wuarchive.wustl.edu

gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:

>fineberg@wupost.wustl.edu (Charles M. Fineberg) writes:
>>  As the subject says, does anyone know where I can get a complete
>>NFL schedule for this year?

>Could this be a joke?  Guy from wustl.edu asks about FTP sites?

>The following message shoula appear tomorrow, but here it is anyway:

Now if the faq post had still been alive on wupost I would've know
without asking.  I actually helped name the directory, but didn't
know that I did until now.  Thanks for the info all who responded.

>PS:  Lots of thanks to Washington University at St. Louis.

You're welcome.  Expect a little down time soon as wuarchive is once
again going have an attempt made at an upgrade.
	Charlie		Assistant archive maintainer at wuarchive.wustl.edu
From: tchriste@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Todd Christensen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Rison/Dishman?
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:15:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

Rison signed with Atlanta yesterday for $1 million, and he is expected to see
some playing time against the Jets on Sunday.  The contract includes no clause
about next year, so we'll see what happens.  Rumors abound that management will
still try to trade Rison for some defensive help.
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From: ric@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ricardo.g.irvin)
Subject: Re: Poll
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:07:52 GMT
Keywords: Poll

In article <87840@netnews.upenn.edu> satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
>Just a poll: How many of you out there (beside myself) think that Ray Handley
>is the biggest schmuck of a coach to walk the Meadowlands since the likes of
>Ray Perkins?  I figured if we could get a yea long petition and send it to
>George Young .... hey, if the baseball folks can do this to Fay Vincent, why
>not?
>
>satish nair
>GIANT fan dreading the upcoming season!

I mabe the only one in GIANTland to think he is not a schmuck.
I get the impression that most of the fans emotion towards Handely is
caused (influence?) by the press.
I don't blame Handely for all (8) losses last year. There were at least
2 games (maybe 3), the Rams & Bears comes to mind, that because of poor 
play (mental and physical) they lost. The rest i attribute to rookie
coach-itis.
Ray try to treat them like professionals, but they won't respond.
From: v067ftek@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (TIMOTHY M. MCCARTHY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Oiler Receivers (Was Re: Oilers)
Keywords: oilers
Date: 26 Aug 92 03:26:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

>>>|> 8.  Who will be the starting wideouts when the season opens?  
>>> 
>>>Duncan, Harris, Jeffires, and Harris would be my guess.
>>
>>I assume you mean Duncan, Harris, Jeffires, and Givens.	    
>>
>>Thats all T. Mac
> 
>Well, I can't speak for what Mr. Brown meant, but Houston does have both
>a Leonard Harris and a Corey (I think its Corey) Harris at WR.
> 
>Thus, Duncan, Harris, Jeffires, and Harris is perfectly valid.

Mr. Wood- 
	I realize you are a Bronco fan and that high altitude can have
strange effects on a persons judgement, but are you suggesting Earnest
Givins is out as a starter?

(As a Bills fan I wouldn't mind, however)

JMO---  T. Mac
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From: ogud@himnariki.cs.umd.edu (Olafur Gudmundsson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro,dc.redskins
Subject: Re: Washington Redskins Roster as of 8/26/92
Date: 31 Aug 92 22:18:38 GMT
Reply-To: ogud@himnariki.cs.umd.edu (Olafur Gudmundsson)
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.pro
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From: ogud@himnariki.cs.umd.edu (Olafur Gudmundsson)
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ogud@himnariki.cs.umd.edu (Olafur Gudmundsson)
Subject: Re: Washington Redskins Roster as of 8/26/92

In article <1992Aug28.221602.20702@verdix.com>, drew@verdix.com (Drew Johnson) writes:

>>>swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams) wrote:
>>>>Status unknown:
>>>>74 * Markus Koch      DE   6-5   275
>>He walked out of training camp either last year or the year before and
>>said he would retire -- he didn't want to play football anymore.  He
>>eventually came back -- this was a total "mind" thing -- he wasn't
>>after more money, etc.  
>
>It was the year before.  He walked out because the Skins were trying to
>turn him into an ILB and he got fed up with trying to figure out which
>system he had to learn.  He went to Canada and did some carpentry work.
>I think he then figured out that he would make a lot more money in football
>and came back.
>>
>>It seems every year he went through this.  But I hadn't heard anything
>>about him this year.  And was curious when I saw Steve's posting of
>>the roster.  Did he officially retire?  What's the scoop?
>
>Last year I believe he reported on time and had a good preseason.  Then
>he hurt his shoulder and spent the bulk of the season on IR, as I recall.
>He had trouble staying healthy, and I believe this is what finally made
>him call it quits.


He actualy hurt his knee, he was supposed to take 2 weeks of but because of
shortage of DE's he was forced into action next week when Fred Stokes,
separated his shoulder, and few plays later he busted his knee for good. 
The Redskins, during the payoffs he disapeared, but the Redskins gave him
a lump sum to retire after Plan B. (He was a Plan B free agent). 


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From: holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Holly Wise)
Subject: Re: 49ers' cuts
Organization: Lockheed Santa Cruz, CA.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 18:50:23 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.181358.28168@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com> marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall) writes:

>
>The 49ers must cut 14 more players by next Monday.


I still wish one of the 14 would be Cofer.  Even though he doesn't look too 
awful in preseason, I don't think he works well under pressure.

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From: dhardma@intelhf.hf.intel.com (Dave Hardman)
Subject: Re: Chicago Q'Back
Organization: Development Tools Operation, Intel Corp., Hillsboro  OR
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 17:30:36 GMT

wjb@cscsun2.larc.nasa.gov (William J. Bene) writes:

>>riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff)

>>The Bears waived QB Paul Justin, last year's 3rd string QB, and kept
>>Will Furrer as a backup to Harbaugh and Willis.  From what I saw of
>>Furrer in the two nationally televised preseason games, I was impressed.

>Don't be blinded by his showmanship!  I went to Virginia Tech for three of 
>the years Will Furrer was QB there.  He was pathetic.  Some games he played 
>ok, other games it looked like he threw them away.  Most of his inconsistent 
>playing is due to he inability to handle the pass rush.  As long as he has 
>protection he will pass well, but if he's rushed he makes terrible mistakes. 

>In 1989-90 season he played so pitiful coach Beamer replaced him with a 
>freshman for four weeks.  But you never hear about stuff like that, you just 
>hear how great he is!  It makes me sick!

>=============================
>William J. Bene
>wjb@cscsun2.larc.nasa.gov

I was at Virginia Tech for the same three years.  I will have to agree that
the first two years that he played were less than spectacular, but you
have to remember that the team was on NCAA probation at the time, and the
entire team had very little talent.  One man does not make a team.  And no
matter what QB you have, if there is no protection, he is going to look bad.

I think the fact that he broke most of Don Strock's Virginia Tech records
with a team on and then coming off probation, with a new coach speaks for 
itself.

Dave
dhardman@pcocd2.intel.com

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From: tokuno@milton.u.washington.edu (Ken Tokuno)
Subject: Re: Joe (Toast?) Montana
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:33:18 GMT

skywalker@DINO.QCI.BIOCH.BCM.TMC.EDU (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:

>I started the "toast" thread and I will stand by it. 

>It's over, face it, come on swallow real hard and try to 
>get a grip. 

>MONTANA IS TOAST !
>tim

>reply:
>but, but , but , if , if ,would have, could have. should have...... 

	"TOAST" as I understand it refers to getting "burned" by another
player, usually by someone on offense.  This implies past tense.  Montana
is still on the roster, so unless you want to eat your own toast, you'd
better think twice about making premature judgments.  I'm not saying he
will be back for sure, but it is just as true that he is not out of the
game yet.  Now if you are predicting he will not be back, that makes more
sense.
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From: martens@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens)
Subject: Re: Packer notes
Organization: Ohio State U. Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:03:04 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.181502.15927@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.162857.18482@cis.ohio-state.edu>, martens@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens) writes...

>>What about the guy they traded for from the Jets?  I think they still
>>have him, West, and Harris.

>The Packer Report has a TE named Corwin Anthony and another named 
>Charles Henry listed on the roster for last Saturday's game.  I don't 
>remember hearing of a trade.  The Packer Plus doesn't have either 
>listed (but then they have Ed West listed as a WR).  I think Anthony 
>was cut last week.

Green Bay gave the Jets a conditional pick for Anthony a few weeks
ago.  If he's been cut, it's a moot point.

>>>And Greg Bell's comeback is over (at least with the Packers).

>No comment here?  I kinda expected Bell to stick.  But like I've been 
>saying - this staff is not one to keep a mediocre veteran in favor of 
>a promising rookie.  Bell averaged only 3.3 yds/carry.  Still, he 
>looked about as good as anybody.

I had mixed feelings about Bell.  Even if he's good, he's only a
stopgap, so I'd be more inclined to keep someone younger.  It may
be that GB thought he'd be easier to sneak through waivers than
Workman (who am I trying to kid?), and they'll pick Bell back up
real soon now.  We'll see.

-- 

-- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu)
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Thursday, 27 Aug 1992 10:11:35 EDT
From: William Grant <343VTQ2@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: The beginning of the end of the 49ers
Distribution: world

Let me get this straight???  You want more than 3 players for 1.  COME ON
Haley wasn't THAT good.  For 2 additional draft picks,  2nd and 3rd round
at that,  I think that Dallas got the short end of the stick!
From: reams@bnr.ca (Cary Reams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: COWBOYS - NINERS - CHARLES HALEY
Keywords: TRADE
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:32:14 GMT
Followup-To: reams@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx

from KRLD, local radio in Dallas...
Cowboys planning to hold a news conference to announce 
the acquisition of Charles Haley from the 49er's for 
a package of draft picks.

Help, hurt, comments, analysis ?????
(I hope this aint the wrong end of Walker-type deal.)



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From: gordons@netcom.com (Gordon Storga)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: EATING WORDS!
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:07:30 GMT
Organization: Stay Awake Software

<holly.200@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com> holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Holly Wise) writes:
><9glnlsm.xtifr@netcom.com> xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters) writes:
>>Now this I can understand.  But realistically, I'd sure hate to bet the
>>farm on the "fact" that Joe is over the hill.  Do you guys know
>>something I don't?
>
>I sure hope Joe does come back, just so the guys saying Montana is washed up 
>will get one last look at the greatest quarterback of all time and get to 
>eat their words.

Montana is old (for the NFL) and recovering from major surgery.  I don't
care about his back surgery recovery.  This is entirely different.  I
don't think he'll be able to cut it.  That doesn't mean he won't look good
from time to time (if he plays at all this year), it just means he'll
resemble Steve Deberg a lot more.

>I also see no evidence that Joe, if healthy, can not go to the Superbowl 
>again.  He played well, while in pain, after his back surgery.  If anyone 
>can make a comeback, it's Joe Montana.  

Anyone can go to the Superbowl - buy a ticket.  If you mean he'll play in
the SB again, I doubt it, at least not as a starter.  Let's put it this
way - TEAMS get to the Super Bowl.  The 9ers haven't really upgraded that
well since last year, and they missed the entire playoffs last year.

At least the greatest QB retired at the top of his game.  Staubach didn't
try to make "one more comeback" past his prime.


Gordon
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From: v120qldp@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (PATRICK FERREL)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: games changing in history, question??
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:17:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <DMERCER.92Sep3141647@ap1pyr.oracle.com>, dmercer@oracle.com (David Mercer) writes...

>Prediction: Patriots will win the Superbowl.

Prediction: Ed McMahon will hand me $10 million.

The Patriots will finish fourth by at least three games.  

They'd probably finish 5/5 in the AFC Central, 5/6 in AFC West (ahead of San 
Diego), 6/6 in NFC East, 4/6 in NFC Central (ahead of TB and GB), and 4/5 in NFC
West (ahead of Rams).


My loyalty is with the Bills, but they didn't do sh;t to inprove themselves.  I
predict Washington will win it again.



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From: patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Subject: Re: USFL Team Names
Summary: Close, but... 
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 00:16:34 GMT

In article <nittmo.714939210@camelot> nittmo@camelot.bradley.edu (Christopher Taylor) writes:
>Here they are (in no particular order):
>
>Tampa Bay Bandits, Chicago Blitz, Michigan Panthers, Birmingham Stallions,
>New Jersey Generals, Philadelphia Stars, Washington Federals, Boston
>Breakers, LA Express, Denver Gold, Oakland Invaders, and Arizona Wranglers
>for the first season

So far, so good. 

>For season two, Boston moved to New Orleans, and six expansion teams were
>added:

Still good, so far.  

>Pittsburgh Maulers, Memphis Showboats, San Antonio Gunslingers, Houston
>Gamblers, Oklahoma Outlaws and Orlando Renegades
>(Also, before season two, Arizona and Chicago swapped teams)

The sixth expansion team was the Jacksonville Bulls -- Washington was still
the Federals that season, and there was no team in Orlando.

>In the third season, Oakland merged with Michigan, Washington merged with
>Orlando, Philadelphia moved to Baltimore, New Orleans moved to Portland,
>Arizona merged with Oklahoma to become the Arizona Outlaws, and Chicago did
>not play.

Let's see -- for '84, Washington *moved to* Orlando, Pittsburgh and Chicago
dropped out, Arizona merged with Oklahoma, and Michigan merged with Oakland.
That left 14 teams for the final season.

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From: jjn@cbjjn.cb.att.com (Jeff Nappi)
Subject: Re: Browns anti-News (vs. Vikings)
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:05:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.104922.27152@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
|> Cleveland sucks.  I think I'm going to ignore pro football again this year.
|> 
|> Don't give this "it's only preseason" crap.  Decent football teams do not
|> get annihilated like that, with any lineup.
|> 
|> -- 
|> 
|> Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu

Now Brian lets cool the old jets-), decent teams always have games like this
every once and a while ask Buffalo fans about last nights game. The Browns
were pathetic indeed last night but lets keep things in perspective here, the
Browns are NOT and Super Bowl caliber team, hell theres a big question mark
that they are even a wild card team. The Browns are still rebuilding and
still have some major holes to fill. If I remember correctly the Browns looked
pretty dismal in last years pre-season games.

Oh yes, I was pretty pissed last night also. Belicheck has made it painfully
obvious that he doesn't give a damn about pre-season w/l records, practices 
are now closed to the public and all preperations are going into the opener 
against the Colts. 

BTW: I pitty the poor fans at the game who had to sit through the entire
     game so they could see the concert and fireworks that were part of
     the festivities after the game. I sure hope the Temptations and the
     Four Tops played some good tunes to calm the savage beast.-)
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From: robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com (Robert Day)
Subject: Re: Maury Buford: Bears release
Organization: control_centers
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:13:26 GMT

In <Btp7Ao.3p@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jdm42241@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (John D. Mraz) writes:

<stuff about the punters deleted>

>      What I think will hurt is the Hilgenberg deal to Cleveland. Rumor has it
>      here that the BEars will receive no more than a 4th round pick.
>      Jay said for $50 K more he would have signed (Bears' final offer: $850 K)
>      Jim Harbaugh says he feels more comfortable taking snaps from Jerry
>      Fontentot. Hmmm....At least Tom Thayer can go back to Right Guard.

This sounds like the stupidest deal the Bears have
ever pulled off. $50K ?!?!? Wasn't Hilgenberg an 
all-pro for like 5-6 years?  I know he had some elbow surgery,
but I haven't heard that used as an excuse (yet).  It sounds 
like another case of Chicago (not just Bears!) management not 
paying people what they're worth.  If free agency ever comes, 
the Bears will have no one left.  BTW, what did Stan Thomas 
sign for as a rookie?  I thought he got something like a $1 
million signing bonus.  How can they justify not paying 
Hilgenberg another measly $50k?  

Stupid tightwads.

Rob
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