HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
Subject: XView for NeXT?
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:40:05 GMT
Reply-To: kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523
Keywords: xview

does anyone out there know if XView compiles on the NeXT
(v3.0) without major modifications?

if so, does anyone know where to get it?

thanks

kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bill@cvlab3.jsc.nasa.gov (Bill Hall)
Subject: Looking for a job....
Reply-To: bill@epnxt.jsc.nasa.gov
Organization: nasa-jsc
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 20:35:11 GMT

Hello everyone.  As happens with government related jobs, layoffs come at this  
time of the year and after 10 years with the same company, I finally got cought  
in the budget crunch.  My company is very unhappy about loosing me but there  
just isn't any money.

If anyone knows of a company looking for an Electrcial Engineer with 10 years  
of solid hardware/software design in the biomedical field (not a paper pusher)  
and please let me know.  I also have 7 months programming on the NeXT (major  
projects) and extensive medical experience.

My phone is (713) 480-5152  (home)
or (713) 488-4102 (work... just ask for me).

On the net please reply to bill@epnxt,jsc.nasa.gov.  I have just upgraded to  
3.0 and am having problems sending mail out ... but not in recieving it.

	Bill Hall
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 12:43:24 CST
From: <U53076@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Configuring Mail.app?

Hi,
   My nextstation ws just hooked up to the internet, at long last.  I have
made the necessary modifications in NetManager, and I can now successfully ftp
and telnet to other internet hosts.  However, I have not succeeded in sending
or receiving mail.  What do I need to do to Mail.app to get my mailing working?
I'm getting, unknown host errors mostly and a configuration host error when I
try to send to the NeXT.  Thanks for any tips.  A system administrator I am
definitely not!
               -Bruce
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From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Blackplague)
Subject: Listserv5.5 and NeXTStep 3.0
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: GMU
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:23:09 GMT

Has anyone out there had any luck compiling Listserv5.5 to run under
NeXTStep 3.0?I am about 90% there but am running into snags.  Any help
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu
Christian Smith
Instructional Development Office
George Mason University
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: simple terminal emulation?
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:45:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: cyantic.1992Nov19.144523.27509
Organization: CYANTIC Systems

In article <75314@hydra.gatech.EDU> cc100aa@xray.gatech.edu (Ray Spalding) writes:
>In article <Nov15.200843.16503@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> ns111310@longs.lance.colostate.edu writes:
>>I am looking for a simple terminal program that will allow
>>for vt100, TTY and ANSI emulation... just something simple
>>for calling BBS's....
>>because it is so expensive....
>>Also,  if I can't find one, I may write my own, but is there a 
>>set of serial port objects out there that would mke this a tad
>>easier??
>
>You should be able to use the system "tip" command
>from a Terminal window.  "tip" does the async communication;
>Terminal handles the vt100 emulation.
>
>If you want to work on your own, you can get the
>source code for "tip" and "tipx" from ftp.uu.net.

Kermit should work fine.  I cannot name an archive site, but maybe
someone else will.
-- 

Mark T. Dornfeld                              Voice: (416) 234-9048
CYANTIC Systems                               Facsimile: (416) 234-0477
101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103                Email: mark@cyantic.com
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From: bill@epnxt.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Looking for a job ....
Reply-To: bill@epnxt.jsc.nasa.gov
Organization: nasa-jsc
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:45:27 GMT

Hi everyone.  As happens frequently on government related jobs, there are  
layoffs at this time of the year and after 10 years with the same company  
I finally got cought in one ... leaving me without a job after January.  

Thus, does anyone out there need an Electrical engineer heavy into  
hardware/software design with 7 months of NeXT programming under his belt?   
I also have an extensive medical background.  I have not been a paper  
pusher.

Please reply to this address or leave messages at

(713)488-4102 ... ask for Bill Hall.

Don't worry about my present company.  They are very unhappy about  
looseing me but there is just no money left and would like very much to  
see me place.
From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Project Management Software
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:55:27 GMT
Originator: matthews@oberon.umd.edu

I know this has been hashed out before, but what are the choices for project
management software on the NeXTs?  e.g, something that'll let you specify
start and end dates for projects, manage resources to put them into said
projects, and even do a Gantt chart or two?
------
Mike Matthews, matthews@oberon.umd.edu (NeXTmail accepted)
------
Half Moon tonight.  (At least its better than no Moon at all.)
From: hagstrop@oberon.mathcs.carleton.edu (Paul Hagstrom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Using NewsGrazer with different NNTP sites.
Date: 17 Nov 92 01:27:51 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona Physics Department

In article <1992Nov16.202223.115@serval.net.wsu.edu>  
jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu (John L. Burke) writes:
> I read in the HELP file that you can have different .newsrc groups for  
> different NNTP sites.  Is there an easier way to specify what NNTP site  
> you want to use?  Right now, I go into the Preferences, select the server,  
> then have to quit Newsgrazer, and start it again.  Is there something  
> simple I am missing?  Thanks very much for your time.

What I generally do is use the dwrite command from a Unix shell program and  
launch NewsGrazer that way -- so I have a number of "launchers" which set the  
default and then run NewsGrazer -- in fact, it is perfectly possible to have a  
number of grazers set up to different sites..

A simple shell would just be something like:
#!/bin/csh -f
/usr/bin/dwrite NewsGrazer NewsGrazerNNTPServer blah.blah.edu
/LocalApps/NewsGrazer.app/NewsGrazer
/usr/bin/dwrite NewsGrazer NewsGrazerNNTPServer return.to.original.setting.edu
--
schmotsignature.
Paul Hagstrom
(hagstrop@carleton.edu)
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From: mshaler@tdoplan (Michael Shaler)
Subject: Re: Need NeXT version of FTPtool
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:29:52 GMT
Reply-To: mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com
Organization: Nippon Motorola Ltd., Tokyo, Japan
Keywords: FTP

A probem I've encountered with GatorFTP+ is that it can't clear the  
 
firewall built into our corporate network.  Is there a workaround in GatorFTP+ that anybody knows about?  (Aside from rewriting the app...)

Earlier in this thread was also mentioned the FTP front-end published with the higher-ed CD-ROM.  Would somebody be kind enough (if the author will allow it) to submit it to one of the archives?  (Or is it already there?)

Thanks.

Michael Shaler
Tokyo Design Center
Nippon Motorola Ltd.
thread was also mentioned the FTP front-end published with the higher-ed CD-ROM.  Would somebody be kind enough (if
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From: eystein@smyril.fi.uib.no (Eystein Dugstad)
Subject: What apps are avaliable for artists and graphical designers?
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 10:29:45 GMT

For an artist who work with graphical design (who currently work on an  
Amiga), I would like some information about  avaliable NeXT apps for tasks  
like manipulating digitilized photos, combining photos and drawing etc.

Please email me name of app, a short description and any experiences, and  
I will post a summary.

Eystein Dugstad
University of Bergen, Norway
From: dmr@medicated.Corp.Sun.COM (Daniel M. Rosenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Telephone Message DELIVERY / Answer Cen
Date: 18 Nov 1992 01:08:36 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dmr@medicated.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: medicated.corp.sun.com

In article Jy6@taligent.com, Jeff Wishnie <jwishnie@taligent.com> () writes:
>Scott is right. Congress passed a law severly restricting the use of
>automatic dialers/and recorded announcement players.

While I thought these were state laws, I'm even more certain that they
apply only to unsolicited sales calls.

The system you are asking for exists, and runs off of 486 PC's in
at least one implementation I know of (by Decision Systems). I can
get the contact info for those who're interested....



---
# Daniel M. Rosenberg        Dan.Rosenberg@Corp.Sun.COM   +1 415 688 9580
# Opinions expressed above aren't Sun's.

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From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Diagram!  broken by NS3.0?
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:56:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxxB5n.Lvu
Reply-To: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Morgan D. Wise writes
> Hi,
> 
> I don't recall anyone mentioning this but Diagram! does not launch under 3.0.   

In Preferences, set your system and application fonts to "Helvetica Medium 12  
point" and your Bold system font to "Helvetica Bold 12 point" and Diagram!  
should work okay.  Simply put, using any other fonts than what 2.x used for any  
of the functions settable in Preferences 3.0 will make Diagram! crash.  The  
folks who made Diagram! addressed this publicly on the net a while back and  
they do realize it's a problem.
-- 
-- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
-- NeXTmail welcome
From: zeke@esosun.UUCP (James Dehnert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Fix for lisp in 3.0?
Date: 19 Nov 92 01:38:04 GMT
Reply-To: zeke@anext.cts.com
Organization: Science Applications International Corp., San Diego


  I may have mised it, but is there a fix for Lisp in 3.0?

    Thanks,
	Zeke

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From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Re: Need NeXT version of FTPtool
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:21:09 GMT

In article <Bxy4C6.Fqx@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)  
writes:
> Also, using GatorFTP+, is there a way to start many file transfers with many  
> sites simultaneously (other than running multiple copies of GatorFTP+)?
> 

No - it pretty clearly has a 'single-site-at-a-time' implementation. What's  
wrong with running two or more copies? I do it from time to time.

My main complaint about the app is that the window is so darn large!

Gordon
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From: alevine@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Alexander Levine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Logitech driver for NeXT?
Date: 22 Nov 92 00:34:52 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Does anyone know of a driver for the Logitech hand-held scanners
which works on the NeXT?  I have no idea how difficult it would be
to emulate the Logitech IO card in software--all I know is that the
scanner itself has a din 8 plug, and could thus theoretically fit in
a NeXT serial port.  I will, of course, be ecstatic if someone has
already written such a driver, but barring that possibility, would
look into writing one myself.  Pointers?

-- 
Alexander Levine	Department of Philosophy
alevine@ucsd.edu	0302, UCSD
			La Jolla, CA 92093  
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From: gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU (Greg Colello)
Subject: Re: What Is BackSpace? (I received the answer)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 03:36:06 GMT

Stefano wrote me directly in reply to my question:

>BackSpace is a screensaver and background image app that accepts  
>`modules' (there's a raft of them on the archives).  BackSpace itself is  
>NOT on the archives because it was developed by a NeXT employee;  
>commercial developers got upset that a NeXT employee was releasing free  
>an app that did the same thing they were trying to charge money for.  So  
>the app was removed from the archives.  I thought it was going to be an  
>example (in NeXTDevelopers/Demos or /Examples) in 3.0, but I'm still  
>using 2.1 so I can't verify that (waiting for my CD-ROM drive).  Anyway,  
>if its not in NeXTDevelopers somewhere, and you'd like a copy, I can  
>NeXTMail it to you.
>--
>-
>Stefano Pagiola
>Food Research Institute, Stanford University
>spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
>spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)

Yep. It's all in NS3.0 /NeXTDevelopers/Examples/AppKit/BackSpace. Big  
README there too. I compiled it and it works great. Lots of examples came  
with it. NeatO! As the author Samuel G. Streeper says "Sometimes it's kind  
of fun to have your computer zoom through space while you work..."

He's right.


-----------------------------------------------------------------
Greg Colello
Carnegie Institution, Department of Plant Biology
Stanford University
gcolello@biosphere.stanford.edu
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From: hgromard@xlan.fdn.org (Herve de Gromard)
Subject: Driver for Canon  IX-30-10 scanner
Reply-To: hgromard@xlan.fdn.org
Organization: X&LAN - Bordeaux, France.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:15:48 GMT

Does anybody knows a sofware on NeXT for a Canon IX-30-10 scanner ?
Thanks for any reply
From: bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu (Bill Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Image-viewer
Date: 17 Nov 1992 19:15:04 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: mathnx.math.byu.edu

In article <1eb4h4INN7u8@hamblin.math.byu.edu> bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu (Bill  
Smith) writes:
> I just ran up against a problem with image viewer.  When I convert
> a file from gif to tiff, its inverted  (darks become lights in
> greyscale).  I know this was discussed along time ago, but I paid
> no attention to the fix.  What is it?
> 
> 
Nevermind. I had an old copy of ImageViewer.  The latest one works
ok.
-Bill
--
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Phone: 1-801-378-2061 Fax: 1 801 378 2800
email: smithw@hamblin.math.byu.edu  or  uunet!hamblin.math.byu.edu!smithw
NeXTmail: bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu
SMail: Math Dept. -- 314 TMCB; BYU; Provo, UT 84602 (USA)
From: gstecker@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Chris Stecker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Bug in WordPerfect under 3.0?
Summary: Italics are broken
Date: 21 Nov 92 07:56:22 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego


	I've had a problem with WordPerfect 1.0 ever since I upgraded to
NeXTStep 3.0.  Whenever I hit the "italic" menu-item or its command-key
equivalent, all I get is a "^A" on the screen.  Does anybody know of a fix
for this?

Thanks in advance-

Chris Stecker						gstecker@ucsd.edu
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Subject: Diagram!  broken by NS3.0?
From: wisem@statnextm.byu.edu (Morgan D. Wise)
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:18:42 -0700
Distribution: world
Keywords: Diagram, NeXTSTEP3.0, bugs

Hi,

I don't recall anyone mentioning this but Diagram! does not launch under 3.0.   
It starts to but then disappears similar to Icon.app. So, I thought, that's  
okay. Karl Kraft did this funky hack to Icon and it worked. I tried it but no  
dice, Diagram just gets farther along before fading into oblivion.  I had to  
dig into the program file to even find the bug report address for them. ( If  
you have a bug report/comment item on a menu, how do you expect the user to  
use it when the menu never comes up? Put an address in the rtf online docs?  
Too easy! :-) ) 

The bottom line is: I need to generate a flow chart by Friday!!  Usually a 5  
minute job with Diagram! but now what do I do?  Any help is ( will be?)  
greatly appreciated.

--
Morgan D. Wise			wisem@statnextm.byu.edu \   NeXT
Dept. of Statistics		wisemor@stat4.byu.edu    >  Mail
Brigham Young University	wisemor@stat5.byu.edu   /   Welcome

As long as one being gets others to bow to him because he has the 
power to destroy them and all they have and all they love, then all
of us must be afraid together.
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From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Has anyone used HSD's PowerScan software?
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:03:46 GMT
Reply-To: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu
Organization: University of Houston
NNTP-Posting-Host: thanatos.egr.uh.edu


We are considering upgrading our scanner software for our HSD scanner.  In  
our opinion, Scan-X, which was bundled with our color scanner, sucks eggs,  
especially when dealing with faxes.  We contacted HSD about there new  
software but they didn't have much to say about it, except to give us a  
quote to upgrade.

Has anyone used this software before??  How does it handle scanning for  
faxes?  Scan-X always makes the damn page too large and we have to cut and  
past into WriteNow before we can fax what we scanned in.  On another note,  
our automatic sheet feeder doesn't work worth didly either with Scan-X.   
Hopefully PowerScan fixes this problem.  Is it worth upgrading to  
PowerScan or is there better scanner software out there??

--
Paul S. Sears                *  sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston    *  suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center *  comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration   *  DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC 
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From: sunthej@alleg.edu (Jake Blues)
Subject: Archie and Gopher in 3.0
Reply-To: sunthej@alleg.edu
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:36:45 GMT


Hello-

A friend of mine sent me some mail asking me if there was a version of  
Archie (the FTP utility) and Gopher that will run properly on a system  
running 3.0.  If someone could send me the FTP address of a site that has  
working copies, or could send me copies directly, I'd really appreciate  
it.

						Jake
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From: eamonn@next.qualcomm.com (Eamonn Coleman)
Subject: Graphical GDB??
Reply-To: eamonn@qualcomm.com
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:04:22 GMT

Are there any ( shareware/ freeware ) graphical front ends to gdb?

Thanks, Eamonn. 


Eamonn Coleman                            Qualcomm Incorporated
eamonn@qualcomm.com                       10555 Sorrento Valley Road
Tel. (619) 597-5280                       San Diego, CA 92121-1617   
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From: mshaler@tdoplan (Michael Shaler)
Subject: 3.0 Color for Lotus Improv/PresentationBuilder
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:57:27 GMT
Reply-To: mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com
Organization: Nippon Motorola Ltd., Tokyo, Japan

How do you do it?  

I can print out in color, but PresentationBuilder won't let its windows go deeper than two bits of color...

E-mail to me directly and I will post the results.  Thanks.



Michael Shaler
T 
okyo Design Center
Nippon Motorola Ltd.tionBuilder won't let its windows go deeper than two bits of color...

E-mail to me directly and I will post the results.  Thanks.



Michael Shaler
T
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From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: Prices
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:14:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.084612.3990@cs.yale.edu>
	nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
>                  We both felt prices were fine so long as vendors
>didn't try and get them posted every month, which would be more
>advertising than announcing.

Does the policy shift mean we no longer need biz.next.newprod?

					-=EPS=-
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From: rainer@ruble.fml.tuwien.ac.at (Rainer Staringer)
Subject: ptroff under 3.0
Reply-To: rainer@eimoni.tuwien.ac.at
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 11:34:48 GMT

When I try to print or preview a manual page using 'ptroff -man'
under 3.0 I get garbage output - the pages come out too short so
the header of the next page is at the bottom of the previous one.

I realize that NeXT added the new -l (length) and -s (paper size)
options, but playing around with them did not change anything.

Is this a 3.0 bug, or am I missing something?

	Rainer
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Has anyone used HSD's PowerScan software?
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 01:41:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.003101.5674@tetrasoft.com> Joseph R.
Grace <JGrace@TetraSoft.com> writes:

]Beware the SCSI chain flaking out or the scanner overheating (at "104" degrees  
]_internally_, e.g., 90 degrees room temperature (the scanner is self-heating  
]since it has an internal fluorescent bulb which is always on when the scanner  
]is on)).

What!?!  What a waste of energy!  I'm glad to learn this before
I buy, rather than after, but I was all set to plunk down my
money.  I would appreciate reports, pro or con, about problems
with HSD scanners.

]In my experience, either of these problems while using PowerScan  
]reduces your NeXT to a hung PC --- it hard core hangs (all applications freeze,  
]menus won't activate, keyboard is ignored;  I believe even the NMI keys don't  
]work!).
]
]I get the impression the scanner or PowerScan is/are (somehow) hanging the SCSI  
]bus (thus effectively disabling all SCSI devices, including the hard disks  
]:-().  I think this problem causes all unsaved and unsync'ed (by the OS) work  
]to be lost --- even that of other applications or any background processes.   
]Needless to say, PowerScan does not deal gracefully with scanner SCSI  
]communications problems.
]
]So, now before using PowerScan, I disconnect my modem (so I don't lose incoming  
]information, e.g., e-mail), and save all my work in other applications.  Of  
]course, now my NeXTstation becomes no more than a flakey, single-tasking PC,  
]but so it goes to use my scanner...  Also, I leave my scanner off when not in  
]use.

Has anyone else had these problems?

]I reported this problem to HSD (most recently on 20 October).  I have no idea  
]what (if any) progress is being made to solve it.

]If anybody can shed more light on these problems (or even has solutions, heaven  
]forbid :-), please let me know!

How about it, HSD?

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