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From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: xlock equivalent that allows text to be shown?
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:27:59 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <6750@news.duke.edu> jfw@neuro.duke.edu (John F. Whitehead) writes:
<Does anyone have a program like xlock that works under OpenWindows that 
<will allow one to display text?
<
<Right now I use xlock, but that just makes designs float around the screen.
<
<I am looking for something that will allow me to make "gone to lunch" or
<"in room 301" bounce around my screen when I lock it.

Add lots of ME TOOS! at this point in time.
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From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Has anyone gotten PCOMM up on a Sparc?
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:43:30 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Distribution: na
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <1992Nov4.220445.25756@odetics.com> frank@odetics.com (Frank Merrow) writes:
<I have compiled PCOMM okay, but UUCP seems to be locking PCOMM out of
<the ports (even when UUCP is not running?).  If anyone has a working
<config.h and/or makefile I would be most appreciative.

Are you using the tty or cua device?  When using PCOMM, you use the cua device,
not the tty device.  Your system shoudl be set for dialin and dialout using
two devices, one for the login (tty device) and one for calling out (cua
device).  In my case they are ttyd0 (ttya renamed) and cua0.
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From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Adventures with Answerbook - how to merge various products
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:06:55 GMT


I thought that I had seen some traffic on this lately, but am unable to 
locate any relevant articles via WAIS, etc.

I am wondering what levels of spells are necessary to take an Answerbook
type product - say from a Sun ANSI C CD ROM, and integrate it into
the standard Answerbook setup - say the Solaris 2.0 or so AnswerBook.

Tips, pointers, etc. appreciated.
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From: cs92bbm@brunel.ac.uk (Benjamin Middleton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Openwindows 3.0 and XV problems
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:10:38 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

I am still in the process of trying to get xv - the picture viewer to
work in conjunction with openwindows 3.0 (in particular being able to
display an image on the root without the openlook manager crashing).

Any suggestions would be welcome.

TIA - Ben.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (Stew Ellis)
Subject: Re: Liken mac <-> sun disk software?
Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute, Flint, MI
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 20:10:48 GMT

rens@lorax.shearson.com (Rens Troost) writes:

>In article <1992Oct29.213657.8007@fripp.ri.cadre.com> jh@cadre.com (Joe Hartley) writes:

>   No, our needs are pretty simple.  People here essentially bought Liken for
>   the sole purpose of running Excel on a Sun!  Bill "The Boy Blunder" Gates still
>   thinks there's no market in the Unix arena, though.


>I'm sure the powers that be at Microsoft are fully cognizant of the
>market they are passing up -- It's the same market they are trying to
>exterminate with Windows NT!

>-Rens
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.windows.x,comp.unix.ultrix,comp.unix.admin
From: mosedale@genome.stanford.edu (Dan Mosedale)
Subject: Why is xload such a memory pig?
Organization: Stanford Yeast Genome Project
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 22:33:50 GMT

I'm running X11R5 patchlevel 17 on Sun's and DECs.

On a Sun running SunOS 4.1.2:

-rwxr-sr-x  1 root     kmem        24576 Oct  1 18:07 xload*

The executable was compiled with gcc 2.2.2, and is nice and small
since it was linked with shared libraries.

However, once it's running, ps shows that it has a size of ~250k, and
it's resident set size anywhere between 800k and 1.2megs:

       F UID   PID  PPID CP PRI NI  SZ  RSS WCHAN    STAT TT  TIME COMMAND
200080011528  3219  3203  0   1  0 252  896 select   S    ?   0:01 xload -geome
200080011666  3263  3248  0   1  0 248  920 select   S    ?   0:01 xload -geome
200080011578  3640  3625  0   1  0 248  868 select   S    ?   0:01 xload -geome
200080012717  3694  3679  0   1  0 248  884 select   S    ?   0:00 xload -geome

Interestingly, on DECstations running Ultrix 4.2a, which doesn't have
shared libraries, the executable (also compiled with gcc 2.2.2) is
~725K, with a typical SZ of ~1.2meg, and RSS of ~930k.

Why is this happening, and what can I do about it?  I don't want
everyone logged in to have a minimally useful program like xload
taking up a meg of RSS most of the time...

Thanks,
Dan Mosedale

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: kzin@terminus.gatech.edu (John Rudd)
Subject: Multi-media products for SparcStations
Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:40:03 GMT


I'm getting ready to buy a Sparc workstation (not sure which one yet)
and one of the long term things I want to look at is doing some video
processing with it.  I'm looking for something that will function
similarly to the NewTek Video Toaster package for the Amiga. Specifically:

   1) has the hardware and software to read in video images from a VCR
     or CamCorder, and store the image internally in true color, even if
     the display isn't able to show it.

   2) has a software package that can take data of 3d objects and a script
     that describes how they will move/change, and will render an animation
     of them.  Should include things like texture mapping, reflections,
     transparency, etc (ie. a good 3d package)

   3) has the ability to combine 1 & 2, including the use of "transparent
     colors" (similar to the way blue screens are used).  Also has the 
     ability to generate Text (with nice text fields similar to those used
     in professional quality TV..like news shows and such) that can be
     superimposed on the other images.

   4) a video image editing package for generating wipes, fades, retouching
     images, etc.

   5) the ability to read in sound sources (in addition to the ones 
     encapsulated in the video source) that can be combined in to the
     system.

   6) support for output to NTSC and/or true color and/or other standard
     video sources (for example, sending the output to a VCR that is recording)

(keep in mind that the video toaster can put all of this together on a
working system for well under $10k)

Thanks for your help

JOhn Rudd
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: jpf@uuhelio.uucp (Jeff Francis)
Subject: Re: Adventures with Answerbook - how to merge various products
Organization: HelioCentric Software
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:24:07 GMT

The SPARCworks 2.0 or SPARCcompiler C 2.0 Product Notes have a section
called "If You Want to Merge Two Answerbook Products".  In a nutshell
it says (for SPARCworks):

#if not a "heavy" install then...
cd /cdrom/SPROabsp1/reloc/PostScript/DEST/SUNWab_11_1

#if a "heavy install then...
cd /opt/SUNWspro/_data/SUNWab_11_1

#then...
./abmerge

# abmerge prompts for bookinfo files to merge--respond (for example)
/opt/Solaris_2.0_AB/bookinfo
/opt/SUNWspro/bookinfo
<ENTER>

# abmerge prompts to begin merge and then asks you to name the merged bookinfo

Jeff Francis, uunet!uuhelio!jpf, HelioCentric Software, (515) 232-1300
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: tim@mdd.comm.mot.com (Tim Rosmus)
Subject: Re: xlock equivalent that allows text to be shown?
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:28:22 GMT

In <1992Nov10.103905.7519@ericsson.se> etxmesa@eos.ericsson.se (Michael Salmon) writes:

>|> I am looking for something that will allow me to make "gone to lunch" or
>|> "in room 301" bounce around my screen when I lock it.

>It sounds like you want xnlock.

There is also "xgone".
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.windows.x,comp.unix.ultrix,comp.unix.admin
From: ihastie@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ian Hastie)
Subject: Re: Why is xload such a memory pig?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 02:31:24 GMT

mosedale@genome.stanford.edu (Dan Mosedale) writes:

>       F UID   PID  PPID CP PRI NI  SZ  RSS WCHAN    STAT TT  TIME COMMAND
>200080011528  3219  3203  0   1  0 252  896 select   S    ?   0:01 xload -geome
>200080011666  3263  3248  0   1  0 248  920 select   S    ?   0:01 xload -geome
>200080011578  3640  3625  0   1  0 248  868 select   S    ?   0:01 xload -geome
>200080012717  3694  3679  0   1  0 248  884 select   S    ?   0:00 xload -geome

OK... I may be being stupid here, but as far as I understand it a programs RSS
should always be smaller than it's SZ.  At least surely it should not be bigger
since this implies that the resident portion is bigger than the total size
of the process.  Is there really something wierd going on or is it just that
ps work differently on Suns in this respect from the way it does on DEC's
boxes??

Ian.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: atkins@Anchor.Stanford.EDU (E. Todd Atkins)
Subject: Re: xlock equivalent that allows text to be shown?
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: su
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 20:50:39 GMT

In article <6750@news.duke.edu>, jfw@neuro.duke.edu (John F. Whitehead) writes:
|> Does anyone have a program like xlock that works under OpenWindows that 
|> will allow one to display text?
|> 
|> Right now I use xlock, but that just makes designs float around the screen.
|> 
|> I am looking for something that will allow me to make "gone to lunch" or
|> "in room 301" bounce around my screen when I lock it.
|> 

Try xnlock which is available via anonymous ftp from export.lcs.mit.edu.

- Todd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: derekt@pwcs.stpaul.gov (Derek Terveer)
Subject: Re: xlock failing
Organization: City of St. Paul Public Works
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:02:49 GMT

Ruth Milner (rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu) wrote:
: It turns out this is a known bug, and Island has a patch for it (if you have
: a support contract). I don't have the patch yet, but in the meantime the only
: cure appeared to be exiting and restarting OW.  : rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu

Was this in OW3 or OW2?

derek
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From: karen@hpfcbig.SDE.HP.COM (Karen Sturgeon)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:04:26 GMT
Subject: SoftBench Users
Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps

SoftBench Family Users:

If you are interested in receiving a copy of a new quarterly newsletter for
SoftBench users from HP called SoftBench Insights, please respond to:

    softbench_insights@fc.sde.hp.com

Sincerely,
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.windows.x,comp.unix.ultrix,comp.unix.admin
From: jpiquer@dcc.uchile.cl (Jo Piquer)
Subject: Re: Why is xload such a memory pig?
Originator: jpiquer@tortel
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:02:54 GMT
Organization: Universidad de Chile, Depto. de Ciencias de la Computacion


In article <1992Nov12.023124.871@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, ihastie@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ian Hastie) writes:
>mosedale@genome.stanford.edu (Dan Mosedale) writes:
>
>>       F UID   PID  PPID CP PRI NI  SZ  RSS WCHAN    STAT TT  TIME COMMAND
>>200080011528  3219  3203  0   1  0 252  896 select   S    ?   0:01 xload -geome
>>200080011666  3263  3248  0   1  0 248  920 select   S    ?   0:01 xload -geome
>>200080011578  3640  3625  0   1  0 248  868 select   S    ?   0:01 xload -geome
>>200080012717  3694  3679  0   1  0 248  884 select   S    ?   0:00 xload -geome
>
>OK... I may be being stupid here, but as far as I understand it a programs RSS
>should always be smaller than it's SZ.  At least surely it should not be bigger
>since this implies that the resident portion is bigger than the total size
>of the process.  Is there really something wierd going on or is it just that
>ps work differently on Suns in this respect from the way it does on DEC's
>boxes??
>
>Ian.

	It's typical in Sun OS4.x, it is due to the shared libs, they are
counted for RSS but not for the SZ. xload includes a big part of the libX11
and libc.
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From: derry@hardy.u.washington.edu (Derry Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Another PComm/getty question...
Date: 7 Nov 92 08:48:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov7.084850.17324
Organization: University of Washington

At long last I have PComm running, but there is one recurring glitch.  When
I attempt to dial, sometimes I get a '/dev/cua0 is locked' error message.  I
know this has something to do with getty being confused, and the problem
goes away when the machine is rebooted (NOT a good idea....)  Just for
information, there is a dialin line set for /dev/ttya, and everything functions
normally except for the glitch.

What process should I kill/restart to get the device unlocked?

							:)  Derry

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From: corson@infodyn.com (Tom Corson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Problems with :manualfeed in pl (NeWSprint)
Date: 3 Nov 92 07:38:10 GMT
Organization: Information Dynamics, Saratoga, CA, USA

In article <27574@castle.ed.ac.uk> mfg@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Gordon) writes:
>Can anyone tell me what's wrong with this attempt to print something using
>the manual paper feed on a sparcprinter.  The command I'm using is
>
>  ~newsprint/bin/pl --e "/usr/local/bin/lpr -Psparc" unnamed.ps :manualfeed 
>
>(/usr/local/bin/lpr is a local wrapper around /usr/ucb/lpr).
>
>The :manualfeed seems to have no effect.  Adding the contents of the
>file ~newsprint/pl.sun4/C/include/manualfeed.ps to the start of the
>file I'm trying to print makes the manual feed work as expected.
>
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If the "unnamed.ps" is not Structured Postscript, psinj (which is used by the
manualfeed macro) will not be able to insert the contents of manualfeed.ps.
This seems to fit your problem description...

HTH,
TC

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From: kroener@cs.uni-sb.de (Thomas Kroener)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: SUMMARY: z-modem protocol software
Date: 10 Nov 92 11:17:41 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of the Saarland, Germany

Some people asked me to post a summary of what I have found
out:

1.	pcomm: A programm similar to PCOMM available for MS-DOS-PC.
               Seemed to be a communication-program to work with
               modems  connected to a serial port of the sun.
               ftp-sites:  ftp.uu.net
                           cerl.cecer.army.mil (129.229.1.101)
                           ftp.uni-kl.de
                           and most ftp-sites

2.      rz,sz: rz and sz are a package for sending (sz) and receiving (rz)
               data under the z-modem protocol.
               Source is available on garbo.uwasa.fi and simtel (and most
               other ftp-sites with a sun-directory!)
	       It's shareware ($20.00).

I don't know how good or bad these programs work (I'm just installing rz/sz
for tests), but I hope this information will help!

Ciao,
      ---Thomas

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From: klee@aero.org (Kevin D. Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Using NeWSprint and a printer connected thru an X-terminal
Date: 11 Nov 1992 17:15:57 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: aerospace.aero.org


I would like to connect an HP Laserjet IIP to an x-terminal that is connected
to our sparc2.  I'm trying to get NeWSprint to do all of the processing and 
then send a file to the x-terminal.  It looks pretty simple to have an HP
connected to the sun, but I need to call a shell script that reads stdin
and sends the file to the x-terminal via tftp.  I know the shellscript alone
works.

I've modified the engine_ctl_HP.c to write to a temporary file and I've
modified npcomm.sh to call my x-terminal script, but when I try to lpr
a simple ascii file, my sun hangs.

I think the problem may have something to do with NeWSprint trying to 
access the device /dev/bpp0.  I changed the the printcap entry to be
/dev/hdsVS-1.  I don't know where file descriptor 1 is being reassigned
to the device.

I'm out of ideas.  Please help!

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From: sgf@cfm.brown.edu (Sam Fulcomer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Answerbook on Xsun
Date: 6 Nov 1992 14:32:12 GMT
Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: eddy.cfm.brown.edu
Keywords: Answerbook openwin

In addition to using the docviewer perl script, a couple of
additional changes to answerbook (beyond those suggested in the perl
script) can make things live more peacably on your system.

Have answerbook conditionally set dvbin based on the xnews serverversion
(assume X if it's 0) so that one answerbook script works for everyone
(xnewsers and Xsuners alike). You'll probably also want to set OPENWINHOME
if it isn't set.

If you happen to be running an xnews.V2 you'll probably want to change
the invocation of ".navigator.ow2" (bleechh...) to plain ol' "navigator".

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From: mark@e7sa.crd.ge.com (Mark Duening)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Another PComm/getty question...
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:40:29 GMT
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

I was able to get Pcomm up and running perfectly fine, thanks to the nice
comments Emmet put in his release, as well as the sample Makefile and
config.h he left for other Sun users.  (Thanks)

We do have a problem though in getting the system to allow dialins.  We
set up all the files and such as suggested.  When a call comes in, the
(Zoom V.32) modem answers it, the two modems screech and connect, but
only gibberish seems to end up on the remote end.  This is consistant
for any incoming modem type, at 2400 and 9600 baud.  What gives now?

There have been two exciting, but seemingly random, occasions where we
did get a valid connection (login prompt and all :-) !).  On one of
those occasions, the remote site would get some bogus characters
scattered within the communications.

Line noise does not seem an issue since we can dial out at 9600 to
all sorts of sites with no problems.  Is this a modem setup issue?
What sorts of modem config should we be using?  Could this be a getty
issue?  How successfully does it detect/understand/utilize the auto-
baud mechanism?

We realize this is more of a sys-admin question than a Pcomm question,
but it never hurts to ask the people in the know.  Details below...

Sun 4/110, SunOS 4.1.1, Pcomm 2.0 (no patches yet), Zoom V.32 BIS modem

Mark
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