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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 11:01:22 -0500
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From:         CRHINE@INDYVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: SystemPro questions...

Date sent:  5-JAN-1993 10:57:52
>
>>We are planning to implement an FDDI campus-
>>wide backbone using a central router to connect several segments of fiber.  No
   w
>>our hope is that we can get as many users as possible on one server before we
>>have to buy another one.  Currently, we have 8 386/25 servers running NetWare
>>3.11.  Each server has about 50 users on it.  What we are hoping to do is put
>>in maybe 4 SystemPros to accomodate these users.  The usage is currently prett
   y
>>light, meaning mostly there is some minor application sharing and mail, but
>>there isn't really any database activity or anything of that nature.  Of cours
   e
>>that will change in the next year or so.  At any rate, my question is whether
>>or not we could get by with Compaq ProSignia servers or if we would need to
>>get some monster like a SystemPro/XL.  The only differences between the two
>>boxes seem to be the TriFlex architecture of the XL, amount of storage they ca
   n
>>accomodate and maximum physical RAM.  The price difference is about twice as
>>much for an XL.  Do you think that the XL is worth that difference?  If so,
>>what makes you think that.  Well, I would really appreciate any coments you
>>would care to make about this and I thank you very much for your time and
>>advice.  Thanks.
>
>>Mark Boyd
>>Pepperdine University
>>boyd@pepvax.pepperdine.edu
>
>   OK.  First my recommendation.  For 400 users, I would buy 2 Systempro/XL
>   machines each with 250 user licenses of NetWare.  The machines would...

>     Glenn Fund                           Internet:   Fund@Relay.proteon.com


I agree with Glenn's evaluation.  As the first of the Systempro owners on
campus, we have noticed nominal utilization even under heavy workloads.
Using a variety of protocols, applications (from wordprocessing to database
and statistical), the systempro line has been well worth the money.  Running
previously on IBM, our problems of maintenance and downtime were reduced
almost 90% after the placement of the systempros (we currently have the XL
machine on order).

Carl Rhine
SPEA Network Systems Manager
CRHINE@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU
Indiana University/Purdue University at Indianapolis
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From:         MARK@AHECAS.COLORADO.EDU
Subject:      Spool(ing) problem

Hi Novell readers,

I have a Novell 3.11 printing problem.  I have a canned application with little
or no chance of modification that prints to network printer 0 and network
printer 1.  In the system autoexec file I spool network printer 0 and 1 to
ques.  I capture LPT 1-3 to redirect them to ques in the system login script
for all of my other applications.

This all works fine for the users located in the office where the printers
reside.

anyway....

I need to redirect output from network printer 0/1 to a local printer attached
to LPT1: for a few users in remote (e-lan on fiber) locations.

The research that I have done indicates that spool is a system level command
and can not be done on an individual user basis and the capture commands seem
to have no effect on printing to network printer 0/1.

Any and all suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Mark

PS -  Sorry if I failed to provide enough detail for a solution.
      I'm a VAX/VMS Systems type hacking at Novell.  Please mail me direct
      with any questions and I'll do my best to provide the missing pieces.

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From:         STAF1342@SLCSL.BITNET

Hi everyone:

I am installing Novell version 3.11 and I need a lan driver for an AT&T
StarLan 1 meg. board. Would anyone know where I can get it. Any help
would be greatly appreciated.

                                Marc Lamoureux
                                St. Lawrence College
                                Cornwall, Ontario, Canada
                                staf1342@slcorn.bitnet
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From:         Brett Warthen <BRETT@INFINITE.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      RE: NetWare C Interface

FORWARDED MESSAGE from Bill Swartz (MAIL@CSERVE
{INTERNET:bill@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU}) at 1/08/93 10:38 AM
Subject:      NetWare C Interface

  I was just trying to get pricing information on the NW C Interface and
was
  told that it is now being changes and only sold as a SDK and that to get
  it you must join Novell's Developers program.  Can anyone confirm or deny
  this.  Also for anyone who is a member of the Developers program -- is it
  difficult to become one, or is it just a matter of filling out forms and
  buying some software??  THANKS in advance!!!!

***** NOTES from Brett Warthen (BRETT @ INFINITE) at 1/08/93 1:03 PM
That is correct.  Essentially, what Novell is doing is releasing a product
called the NetWare Client SDK, which will support DOS, Windows and OS/2 in
one package.  The product looks like it will be quite nice...and include
coverage of NetWare 4.0 APIs.

It doesn't cause anything to join Novell's Professional Developer's
Program.  There are some forms to fill out...but nothing that extensive.
There are also some special offers on products to members of this program,
which makes it quite worthwhile.

I suspect the forms, and the requirement of joining the program is probably
Novell Austin's way of justifying the existence of the program, and getting
continued resources committed to it from Novell corporate.  So go for it...

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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 09:37:10 EST
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From:         John Tassopoulos <jtassopo@ORAC.EFS.MQ.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: "A Hidden Cost in LAN Maintenance"
              at Jan 6, 93 6:28 pm

> A front page story in the January 4 issue of Communications Week
> is entitled "A Hidden Cost in LAN Maintenance.  It starts off:
>
> Many organizations continue to pay a "hidden" but significant cost
> associated with managing LANs--the expense of having a technician go

...

> adds, moves and changes.   (Let me know if you would like a copy of the
> full article.  You could probably get some technical reports on this
> from Anne Brazao at Bytex, 508-366-8000.)
>
> Michael.Willett@OFFICE.Wang.com
>

Michael,

Could you please e-mail me a copy of the abovementioned article (sounds
interesting ...)



Thanks in advance,

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From:         The Radio Gnome <V2002A@TEMPLEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: SystemPro questions...

Hi,

     Has Compaq stopped their practice of using 'special' drives from Conner?
We found out the hard way that our older 386/25 equipped with a CP-3111
would not act as an IDE master without generating thousands of the infamous
'lost interrupt' messages and grinding the server into the dirt.
     Just a note of caution about non-Compaq supplied drives.

     Andy Wing

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From:         Ron Nutter <rnutter@CA.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Lanalyzer for NetWare bug

Novell has released a patch for Lanalyzer for NetWare which should fix the
constant down server or server not responding message in LZFN.  Download
SQUERY.ZIP from NetWire and overwrite the SQUERY.DLL file in the LZNF
directory on your pc.

Ronald Nutter
900 Support Staff ECNE
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From:         "Bob.Cowling" <23130MGR@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: "A Hidden Cost in LAN Mainte

Can you send me a copy as well?

Thanks


23130mgr@msu.edu
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From:         Sarah.Gray@UM.CC.UMICH.EDU
Subject:      Netware for the Mac--can localtalk be used with Ethertalk?

     I have a Quadra on our ethernet running Novell, so on the Mac, I have
 set the Network setting to Ethertalk.  Fine.  But now the two Appletalked
 printers on the Mac don't work because localtalk is no longer selected.
 I tried to put one of the Mac printers on the server, but never was
 successful--it always claimed the NEC Silentwriter was off-line or out
 of paper.  This didn't work with LPT2 or COm1.  IN any case, I have another
 Mac printer.
     Is there any way for the Mac to use both networks?  After, it has two
 network interfaces--its Ethernet and appletalk ones.
   We don't have a localtalk card in the server.
   Sarah.Gray@um.cc.umich.edu
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From:         Gary Dobbins <dobbins@LAN.CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Routing Bug - cisco or Novell or 3com ?

In article <NOVELL%93010609390375@SUVM.SYR.EDU> you write:
>Subject: Routing Bug - cisco or Novell or 3com ?

Upon studying your diagram, I am confused when you label a net segment
NETB  Arpa: 1000bnnn  Novell: 1000008

Why two different numbers?  Is it that you are binding IPX to the two
different frame types on your servers and using different net numbers on the
BINDs?  If so, I don't believe that you should do that.  All references to a
particular net segment by a single protocol, regardless of frame type,
should use the same net number.

If I misread or misunderstood the nature of the diagram (I'm no routing
expert, but have designed our campus IPX routing and net assignment scheme),
then please ignore my suggestion.  Otherwise, I'd be interested to see the
relevant LOAD and BIND lines from CWB-A's AUTOEXEC.NCF...


        Gary L. Dobbins  *  University of Arizona  *  (602)621-6715
             dobbins@arizona.edu  *  dobbins@arizvms (bitnet)
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From:         Daniel Dion <DXD0N@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA>
Subject:      IBM real-time interface co-processor DOS support

if somebody has this diskette, I would appreciate hearing from you.
I am sorry if it is not really Novell related but there are so many
knowledgeable people here !!! :-)

Thanks

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From:         "Operator, get me the number for 911" <cantie@ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU>
Organization: UB
Subject:      Re: Need help with Windows 3.1 on NetWare server..

In article <01GTE7YN2UN48Y5LKF@ALBION.BITNET> you write:
>Hello all,
>
>        I'm trying to get Windows 3.1 up and running on my novell net, finally.
>
>        Running into some problems, tho.  I'd like to know how other people
>have handled them.  I'd prefer not to reinvent the whell if I don't have to.
>
>        1)  Installing new applications:
>
>                I need an easy way to notify users of new applications and a
>        way of installing them into the user's personal configuration.
>
>              As set up now, people have there windows file in their personal
>        network directory.  This contains WIN.INI, SYSTEM.INI, etc.
>        (Ala SETUP/N).  they also have their own copies of the .GRP files.
>
>                I'm not quite sure how to go about modifying their personal
>        configuration on the fly.
>
This is VERY easy.  In their home directories, copy in the new application
group file (say it is ENABLE.GRP).  Then edit their PROGMAN.INI file to
include the new group.  That's it!  as long as they have rights to the PIF
file and the application, you are all set.

>        2)  Using different workstations:
>
>                We have a large (300 node +) installation.  We would like to
>        give users the capability of running windows with their own
>        configuration regardless of what workstation they login to.  We
>        have a mix of 286, 386, and 486 machine swith monochrome and VGA
>        graphics.
>
>                I'd like to be able to load the appropiate display driver on
>        startup, instead of using the one the SETUP installs.

This one is not so simple.  What version of NetWare are you running. You ma be
able to set a variable in the SHELL.CFG file (it you are not using one now,
you might need to make up one).  The in the login script, check the system
type. The do something slick like

        IF %SYSTEM = "286" THEN BEGIN
                #NCOPY WIN.286 WIN.INI
                EXIT "WIN"
        END

The %SYSTEM is the part you need to work out.  Have fun with the system login
script!   That is why Novell gave them to us!

Also remember that any time you call an executable you need to put in the #.

>
>
>Is any of this possible?
>
>Any ideas are greatly appreicated.  Reply to me and I'll summarize to the net.
>
>Thanks
>Jason Ruiter
>System/Network Manager
>Albion College
>Albion Michigan
>BITNET: SYS@ALBION


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Subject:      Re: INVALID COMMAND.COM

I have a problem with my command.com .If I run a package wordperfect without
connecting to the network everything works fine and I'm able to exit the
package normally.
But the minute I connect to the network and then access the package I have
the problem "INVALID COMMAND.COM SYSTEM HALTED" the instant I exit the package.

I am  currently using msdos 5.00  and I have my comspec in my system login scri
pt set to a directory on the network drive containing the same version of dos.
Both the command.com sizes are exactly the same.

Has anybody out there experienced a simalir problem and if so how did you solve
it ??????

Use in your search path an MSDOS version and in your system
loginscript an Comspec path to that search path
The problem is than over

Goodluck
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From:         John Hendriks <JDH@MEDICINE.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: UTP && THINWIRE same card

Peter,
    There are 2 that I know of, that have TP and thin wire. There is
of course the SMC Combo card at about $AU250 and then there is the
ACOMM combo card at $AU145 which is a NE2000 clone. SMC at your local
store but the only address for ACOMM is an OZ address - I'm sure that
there would be distributors in the US for this card. There have been
no reports of any problems using them. The prices I give should give
you an idea of US prices. I should imagine ACOMM would be $US100
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From:         CS06999 <CS06999@MONTCOLC.BITNET>
Subject:      TCP question

nick writes...
>         I have a question about the TCP/IP transport NLMs that come
> with Netware 3.11.  What are they and what do they do?

I could be talking out my *$$ here but TCP/IP in the 3.11 bundle seems
to be targeted to those people who want to route IP packets through
their file server onto a IP backbone or campus Internet. Would seem
that most users of the IP service have a file server with at least two
LAN cards in them. The one card services the primary work group via
ethernet, arcnet or tokenring and the other card connects the server to
the campus backbone. Occasionally local people want to access the
services on the Internet (campus backbone) and they need IP support
to do this. The 3.11 TCP/IP services provide the capability of routing
local IP packets through a file server and placing them onto the
Internet

rick
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From:         S87405095@HSEPM1.HSE.NL
Subject:      re: Who got an Upgrade for 3.11 ?

 hello,

 those in europe who have the new security update got it themselves from
 ftp.novell.com. When you want anything overhere and you want it fast you
 must monitor that site on a regular basis as we do. Now Novell has removed
 the update because there were some bugs in it. we have the update installed
 and already running for about two months now and it still works good.

 i hope they get the problems straightened out soon. I will be monitoring
 them.

 signed jan verhoeven  s87405095@hse.nl
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From:         Roger Caldwell <rcaldwel@PONDER.CSCI.UNT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Netware 3.11/DEC MicroVAX i

In bit.listserv.novell you write:

>>We are talking to one of our Health Insurance Vendors about a system
>that >they have to allow us to do some cost analysis of our claims data.
>It is >written for Oracle 6.0, which they have running on a DEC MicroVAX
>back-end.

>>My question is - will the two systems pass data over the same wire
>without
>>conflicts, so that I don't have to buy two computers for everyone who
>needs >to use this new system? I have a mixture of 3Com and Cabletron
>NIC's on the >net now.


>No problem at all we have several vaxes, sun's, Mac's and PC all on the
>same ethernet.


Hi I read this article and was wondering if you could give me a little
info on a DEC microVAX.  I might have a chance to get my hands on one,
that is gona fall by the way side.  A guy came into my work and asked me
if I would be interested in one, and I said yes I want to look at it, but
I don't know anything about them.

Thanks in Advance
Roger
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From:         "Mark D. McKamey" <mark@RIA-EMH2.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      NetWare v3.11 Server-to-Server Info Requested

Hello,

    Somewhere I remember hearing that it is possible, and preferable to
install NetWare v3.11 from an existing server - if you are installing
serveral systems.

    Could someone either point me to directions within the NetWare manuals,
or provide instructions on how I would go about loading NetWare on a number
of systems, from an existing system.  I have one system running 3.11 now,
and need to load the other 7 NetWare licenses we have bought onto the other
7 servers.

     All assistance will be greatly appreciated.  Thank you,

Mark D. McKamey
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