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From: Andre.Eichner@f10.n2403.z2.FIDONET.ORG (Andre Eichner)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: i have a question (SO DO I !!)
Date: 8 Jan 93 09:05:00 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 2:2403/10 - FidoNet Berli, Berlin 41

Hello sorgatz!

Wednesday January 06 1993, sorgatz writes to All:

 >> Dear Folks: I should have stated that the man was one armed (he had one
 >> arm missing) in my last postings. The planet Venus is a very hot place
 >> and not hospitable to humans in the third dimension, but in the 4th
 >> dimension it is quite a nice place. Humans can visit there is their
 >> astral form and the space people can change a human's molecturlar
 >> structure so that we can exist there also. It takes about a two week
 >> conditioning period. John Winston.

 s>  Aw Jeez...Winston...do you make this stuff up as you go or do you have a
 s> script writer run it up for you?? Just how, exactly, do you know this? I
 s> can't imagine a means (enclosures aside) of getting human life to survive
 s> the environment of Venus. 600+ degrees, poisonous atmosphere...c'mon..get
 s> real! "The Space People"...you sound as silly as George Adamski. Where's
 s> your proof? Got *anything* to back this twaddle up?

John's information is correct! The 4th dimension is a light dimension and quite different from the 3rd (physical) dimension. Only the earth has beings in the physical dimension, some other planets in solar system hast beings on 4th and higher light dimensions including the sun (YES!)!

  Put your limitations of your consciousness away and you can understand!
  And you can comunicate with beings from other dimensions, too!
  It's very interesting and a wonderfull experience.
  The live in the universe is love and light and joy...

Belive it or not... the time comes where you can't look away! Soon!

Galactic greetings
   Andre

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From: victor.volkman@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Victor Volkman) 
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: RE: BIGFOOTF SPACEMAN?
Date: 5 Jan 93 07:06:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: HAL 9000 BBS, W-NET HQ, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Reply-To: victor.volkman@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Victor Volkman) 

John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
-> Newsgroups:
-> talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,alt.religion.kibology
-> Subject: Re: Bigfootf spaceman?
-> Message-ID: <72870@cup.portal.com>

-> Dear Folks: Now to answer a question. It was asked how we compare in
-> IQ to the space people. If you consider a human to be very smart with
-> an IQ of 150 then the Greys from Z. R. have a 300 IQ. People from
-> Venus are 5,000 years ahead of us an in the 4th dimension, because we
-> destroyed our civilization about 5,000 years ago. Some people from
-> Saturn and Jupiter would seem god like to us. Jupiter is where Adam
-> came from of the the Adamic race. So how about them apples?
-> John Winston.

There is no such thing as a standard IQ test, there are several (such as
Standford-Binet, California Mental Maturity Test) each has a different
standard deviation.  For example, an IQ of 120 on a test with a standard
deviation of 10 would be the same as an IQ of 140 on a test with a
standard deviation of 20.  I'm sorry, but there are no IQ absolutes.

Even worse, you cannot "live" on Jupiter because there is no place to
"stand".  It is not solid, it is gaseous.  Not to mention gravity and
radiation are almost 100 times earth normal.
                                                
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Venus
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 09:43:59 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Dear Folks: I never did have the opportunity of meeting the lady from
Venus who visited the UFO study meetings. My teacher Merle did and only
said that she had very pretty eyes.
John Winston.
From: petert@zikzak.apana.org.au (Peter T.)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: George Adamski-Fraud?
Date: 8 Jan 93 06:01:34 GMT
Organization: Zikzak public access UNIX, Melbourne Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: zikzak.apana.org.au
Newsreader: MS Windows WinVN

In a number of postings I have come accross statements that George Adamski is a fraud.
As I have a book of his on order, can someone inform me as to why some see him as such?
Thankyou 
Peter T.
From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Everyone Listen-up!
Date: Tue,  5 Jan 93 07:55:32 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1i7ndfINNins@network.ucsd.edu>
  <1993Jan4.154043.23434@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com>
  <1993Jan4.214835.20072@pony.Ingres.COM>

Dear Folks: Let's agree to disagree.
John Winston.
From: victor.volkman@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Victor Volkman) 
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: RE: CONCLUSIONS RE:JOHN W
Date: 9 Jan 93 13:36:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: HAL 9000 BBS, W-NET HQ, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Reply-To: victor.volkman@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Victor Volkman) 

-> Dear People: I don't believe Ethan will quite the group because I

You mean "quit" the group.

-> don't believe he is a quiter. You will hear from him again. At least

Try "quitter".
                                                                      
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From: ehughes@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: CLINTON'S INTERNET ACCOUNT
Date: 5 Jan 93 13:49:29 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

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Subject: Electronic Access to the President
From: patth@sci.ccny.cuny.edu (Patt Bromberger)
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 16:52:43 GMT
Reply-To: alt.education.disabled,misc.handicap
Followup-To: alt.education.disabled,misc.handicap
Distribution: usa
Organization: City College of New York - Science Computing Facility

Reposted from alt.activism
From: jak@panix.com (Jack Krueger)
Subject: If you didn't see this.(President-elect)
Date: 30 Dec 92 15:31:52 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC

THOUGHT YOU MAY LIKE TO HAVE PRESIDENT ELECT CLINTON'S E-MAIL ADRESS

 From: Clinton-HQ@Campaign92.Org (Clinton/Gore '92)
 Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab
 Date: 19 Dec 1992 21:06:37 -0500
 Newsgroups: alt.politics.reform,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.activism
 Subject: CLINTON: Season's Greetings & Best Wishes for a Happy New Year

 Season's Greetings and Best Wishes for a Happy New Year!

 Thank you for your messages to the Office of the President-elect.
 This mailbox will be unattended from December 22, 1992 until January 4th,
 1993.  Please try again after January 4th.  If you prefer, you may send
 hardcopy messages to the address below:

    The U. S. Mail address for the Clinton/Gore Transition Team is:

         Office of the President-Elect
         Atkins Building
         105 West Capital Street,  Suite 400
         Little Rock,  Arkansas   72201

         Telephone: (501) 374-3322


 Regards,
 Jock Gill
 Public Access Email
 Office of the President-Elect
 75300.3115@compuserve.com
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"There's no place like home!"  -- Dorothy, "The Wizard of Oz"
From: rodb@slugo.corp.sgi.com (Rod Beckwith)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Anti-Gravity?
Date: 12 Jan 93 02:28:45 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.


Robert,

Not to be cynical, but this is nothing but a regurgitation of a variation
of every story I have ever heard about J.R. SEARL. The story is almost
identical every time I hear it. If your personal acquaintance sold you this
information, I suggest you get your money back. It is availiable from a
plethora of sources.
At any rate I find that it is diffiCULT to get any decent information on
him or his reasearch. It also appears he likes it that way. I put him in
the same class as Otis T. Carr......if you have studied anti-gravitational
systems at all, you know what & who I mean.

I am really interested in this form of reasearch & have done quite a bit of
experimenting myself.....no luck YET. As far as people like SEARL & others
of his ilk .....PUT UP OR SHUT UP! No more excuses are necessary. Create
the device & get down to your local TV station & promise the program
director 25% of your profits, guaranteed the Government will not be able to
shut you down.


Don't take it personally,

Rod  


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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: scottb@sun1x.actc.res.utc.com (TheLrdLovsAHngn)
Subject: Re: NASA antigravity patent
Organization: United Technologies Research Center
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:12:45 GMT

If such a patent/device exists, post all relative info here.
I, for one, would like to hear more about this.
-- 
Disclaimer:  I didn't do it!  Nobody saw me do it!  You can't prove anything! 
             My opinions are my own.   They do not reflect anyone/thing else!
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: UPCOMING on the ParaNet UFO CONTINUUM
Date: 9 Jan 93 01:45:04 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/428.0 - <ParaNet(sm) , Arvada CO


 * Forwarded from "ParaNet UFO Echo"
 * Originally by Michael Corbin
 * Originally to All
 * Originally dated 8 Jan 1993, 18:44

Here is the schedule for the next two weeks on ParaNet's UFO radio show:

Sunday, January 10 9:00 PM Mountain/11:00 Eastern
        Guest:  Jim Speiser

Sunday, January 17 9:00 PM Mountain/11:00 Eastern
        Guest:  David Jacobs

The show is heard over Galaxy 6, Channel 17, 7.5 MHz Audio.

Be sure to tune in with your satellite receiver and call in over our toll-free lines to speak to the guests.

--  
Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff)
Subject: Re: UFOs's
Organization: BeHereNow
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 20:44:11 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.194334.26018@news.ysu.edu> ai373@yfn.ysu.edu (Terry Ford) writes:
>
>So, does everyone here believe totally in UFO's?  You hear a lot abot
>about lights in teh sky, and  crop cirlcles and things.  I did not
>believe ibn in UFOs for a whilem , but crertain things changed my mind.
>First, UFO's have been puicicked up on radar.  Radar proves (well 
>nothing can be proven), but it kshows that hallucinations can
>be ruled out.  There have also been some famous cover ups, with
>people even some goverome retired government officials admitting that thee gov.
>is hiding something.  I'm tired, so the grammear of this msghh 
>is most likely terrible.
> 
>Please Email me, because I doit took me 15 mins to find this msg
>area, and I doubt I will evr be able to find it again.
> 
>Terry Ford
>ai373@yfn.ysu.edu


Having a few editor problems? Looks like it. I thought I would send this to
you so you could see how hard your post is to read.

Yes,
I think there is far too much data to rule out UFO's as anything but
ET's in many cases. Read about Fred Bell... he was stationed at Point
"something" or other (a radar installation on the NW coast) and they
frequently saw massive UFO formations entering the atmouspher on a 
constant basis. It was VERY hush-hush, and he quit the military because
he couldn't stand the atitude that these things must not be discussed, 
even among themselves...

Jeff-
From: froggy@zikzak.apana.org.au (Robyn McNamara)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!
Date: 9 Jan 1993 19:27:17 +1100
Organization: Zikzak public access UNIX, Melbourne Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: zikzak.apana.org.au

James.Porter@mechanic.fidonet.org (James Porter) writes:

>Is anyone is Alt.aliens seeing this post?  I dont think my USENET echos are getting outside of FLA.  Anyone seeing this and not seeing a reply to it send me a message!
> 
>james

James, I can hear you!  I'm on a public access computer system in Melbourne,
Australia.

I tried to mail you @mechanic.fidonet.org, but it bounced.

-- 
Robyn A. McNamara                                           The Cosmic Froggy
        froggy@zikzak.apana.org.au     froggy@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
"...blankets and bedclothes, the child of the mountain..." - Simon & Garfunkel
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: trondk_l@gribb.hsr.no (Lindanger, Trond K.    8-94)
Subject: Re: reply EINSTEINS UNIFIED
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 12:46:55 GMT

In article <C0IJ9J.Kz0@mach1.wlu.ca> kfisher3@mach1.wlu.ca (kevin fisher U) writes:
>From: kfisher3@mach1.wlu.ca (kevin fisher U)
>Subject: Re: reply EINSTEINS UNIFIED
>Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 02:08:06 GMT

>Lindanger, Trond K.    8-94 (trondk_l@gribb.hsr.no) wrote:
>: I've seen a book about the unified field theory at our library. Also read 
>: thar Einstein didn't want to release this work, he meant that we weren't 

>: ready to use the knowledge properly.
>: 
>: Trond K. Lindanger
>: - Your friend in NORWAY


>Just interested...any idea what this (these?) book(s) are called?



My information is based upon the following two books:

  1. A book about the UNIFIED FIELD THEORY
     Comment : I'll check out the title as soon as possible and return it 
	       to this newsgroup!

  2. A book from which the Einstein point of view upon the field theory 
     was taken.
     Title   : "The Philadelphia experiment"
     Comment : Was mentioned in a short sentence. Maybe somebody else could 
	       write what page etc., I don't remember...
From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: i have a question
Date: Sat,  9 Jan 93 02:35:06 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: alt

Dear People: I have been asked why I think people can go to Venus and 
other planets after a conditioning period and how people from Venus 
can come here. One of the first reasons that I believe it is that I
have talked to a person from Venus who is living here now. This lady
was about 28 years old at the time, married and had a young child.
She did not like to tell anyone that she was from Venus because she
knew by experience that people of Earth will really give you a hard
time if you say you are from another planet and even kill you. People
from other planets have been caught and killed by people of a certain
type of church and the priest of that church praised the people for 
doing it. A person by the name of Buck Nelson made some visits to 
other planets and he was subjected to some energy that  over a two
week period changed the resonant frequency of his body so that he
could exist on Venus with no problem.
Thats all the time I have now.
John Winston.
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: Anne Douglass <adaed@marlin.jcu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Ozzie or Aussie
Organization: James Cook University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 23:40:29 GMT

>Path:
marlin.jcu.edu.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!agate!usen
>et.ins.cwru.edu!po.CWRU.Edu!smg6
>From: smg6@po.CWRU.Edu (Stanley M. Golem)
>Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
>Subject: Re: Ozzie or Aussie
>Date: 8 Jan 1993 16:29:06 GMT
>Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
>Lines: 5
>Message-ID: <1ika4iINNc7k@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
>NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu
>
>
>If anyone cares, I knew several Australian expatriots in Japan, and
>each mentioned at one time or another that the word was spelled
>"Aussie" but pronounced "Ozzie."
>-- 

It's true!  I *AM* one!

Anne
Townsville
Queensland
AUSTRALIA

13 Jan 1993  -  HAPPY NEW YEAR
From: petert@zikzak.apana.org.au (Peter T.)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Pleiadian problems
Date: 11 Jan 1993 14:35:39 GMT
Organization: Zikzak public access UNIX, Melbourne Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: zikzak.apana.org.au
Newsreader: MS Windows WinVN

In article <1infasINN7dm@paprika.csv.warwick.ac.uk>, pyuaq@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr G S Sutherland) says:
>
>Peter T. (petert@zikzak.apana.org.au)wrote : 
>
>+> A few sources state that the Pleiadians no longer visit us because they 
>+> have "problems at home" that
>+> they must attend to.
>+> Does anybody know what these problems are supposed to be?
>+> Thankyou
>+> Peter T.
>
>Jeff (jeffp@netcom.com) wrote :
>
>+ I would be interested to hear about your sources.
>+
>+ Jeff-
To this question I have already posted an answer, which I posted on the 10th. Since your message was posted on the
8th {give or take a little for time zones} , it is interesting how it popped up after mine? Are you on a permanent link or
temp? Anyway if you go back over the articles you should find it.
>
>        I'd like to third that, and also add that there seems to be a 
>number of people who take the Pleidian message (from Channellers) to be
>gospel. If there spirituality, philosophy or theology is in wide use at
>home, then it may well be causing trouble. (Assuming that it is genuine.)
>If so, then surely it is rather foolish to base one's life on it.
>
>                Graeme.
Asking a question on a particular subject does'nt have to mean that I beleive in it.
To use another example: When reading a good thriller, aren't you interested in whether the butler did it?
then again maybe you're not , buy it goes to some degree to explain my point of view.
To be honest I'm not all that much interested in "new-age" stuff, choo choo trains and the like, but if I read
someting {no matter how gullible or otherwise} and I'm left with a question that will not go away, I will ask it.

Peter T.
I'm just one of Deep Thought's sub-routines.
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: IPAP400@indyvax.iupui.edu (Pat Pontis)
Subject: Re: John Winston is not a real person?
Organization: Integrated Technologies IUPUI
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:52:07 GMT
X-Posted-From: ppontis.oit.iupui.edu
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In article <93006.170545U37460@uicvm.uic.edu> <U37460@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:05:45 CST
>From: <U37460@uicvm.uic.edu>
>Subject: Re: John Winston is not a real person?
>In article <1993Jan6.193721.20654@netcom.com>, payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
>says:
>>Cost is about $20/month, currently. They charge a lot for storage
>>however, which means that if you get a lot of mail, the cost can go
>>way up. They also have a large PD/Shareware library and a graphics
>Hmm.  Very interesting.  So if John Winston gets a large amount of mail,
>his monthly fees would skyrocket?  Assuming he is not wealthy in the extreme
>this might be a way for someone to annoy him!  Or quiet him.  Comments?
>>library which includes lots of GIFS etc...
>>
>>
>>Rich
>>
>>payner@netcom.com
>>
>>
>Ethan Haslett
>u37460@uicvm.uic.edu
This is so CHILDISH.  Why don't all you JW haters just talk to yourselves.
JW is fun, positive, and complementary.  We could use more of that instead
of a lot of bitching.  I like John.  He makes me laugh and feel good.
Long live John Winston.  Pat
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff)
Subject: Re: John Winston is not a real person?
Organization: BeHereNow
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:48:33 GMT

In article <93007.184109U37460@uicvm.uic.edu> <U37460@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:

>
>Ethan Haslett
>u37460@uicvm.uic.edu

Dear Ethan,

get a life.
Jeff-

Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: mikebo@timesink.chi.il.us (Michael Borowiec)
Subject: Re: Moderated Group/John Winston
Organization: HAM Radio Station N9EUZ, Naperville, IL
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 06:02:10 GMT

In article <93005.132748U37460@uicvm.uic.edu> <U37460@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>In article <72922@cup.portal.com>, John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com says:
>>
>>Dear Folks: Why is it that when I hear the words moderator, censorship
>>I think of Hitler? I agree the Don would be a good moderator if you
>>think you need a moderator.
>>John Winston.
>This will be the one and only time that I respond to your crap.  You must
>understand that the use of Internet is a priviledge and not a right.
>When you start posting under the guise that it is your right to post,
>you are wrong.  If you would like to go out on the streets and preach
>to the world your 3 line messages, fine, that is your right.  But you
>must consider your use of Internet a priviledge and behave accordingly.
>And if those who want a moderated group want one, they may create one.
>You John Winston are under no obligation to partake in the discussions there
>and can freely post here(although it is not a right).
>Ethan Haslett
>smoke... smoke.. flame off

Oh man... what a load of horseshit! This is anarchy if ever I saw it.
A privilege is granted. Who exactly granted anyone the "privilege" of
posting to Usenet. More to the point, just how the hell is anyone going
to prevent Mr. Winston from posting? There is no controlling body for
the Usenet. Anyone can post anything they want and nobody can do
diddely squat about it.

The most effective weapon against idiots is to ignore them. They
always go away. If you can't wait that long, just filter his posts.
I rather enjoy them myself... so BWAAAAHAHAHAHA. (-8
- Mike

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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: Everyone Listen-up!
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:40:43 GMT

In article <1i7ndfINNins@network.ucsd.edu> spl@pitstop.ucsd.edu (Steve Lamont) writes:
>In article <72694@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>>Dear People: I'm not an alien. I was born in Texas.
>
>That's alien enough for me.
>

Laugh while you can, monkey-boy!

--
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mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com                       _-\_<,
"If it were not for laughter, there would be no Tao."  (*)/'(*)