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From: haro@carina.unm.edu (KANEDA)
Subject: Re: Got IT! ALIENI (4)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 05:02:14 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

OK
How about a group of Aliens and Preadators accidently land on Earth and then 
go back through time to the year 1994.  Now to save the city of L.A., and then
the rest of the world, John Conner sends back a Terminator (CSM-101 serries
800), to aid Mel Gibbson, Danny Glover, and Bruce Willis, in there fight.
Linda Hamillton will get some assistance from the soon to be ghost of
Sigourney Weaver (remember Obi Wan Kenobie?), with Whoopie Goldberg as a 
medium.  

And just when the good-guys are winning, The Death Star comes in and the 
Emporer unleashes his full wrath!





But, just as the Bad guys start to win, Here comes both the old and new
Star Trek in a crossover from hell.  They assist our origional heros in 
turning back the dark forces, but only arter Piccard tries on Kirks 
hair piece, and Kirk picks up on Troi, and Geordie and Scotty turn Data into
a '57 Chevy, and Bones and Bev. examine eachother...etc. etc....





BUT!!!!!!!!!!
Just when everything was a getting good, The BORG arives and starts to Kick somemajor butt!!!  All seems Lost for our heros.  And to top it off, DATA and The
Terminator get into an Arm Wresseling match.  SHESSSS!!!!







BUT!!!!!

In a climax that only Lucas and James Cameron, with help from Steven Spilberg,
could pull off, The Millenium Falcon roars in and Luke and Leia use the force
to send the all the bad guys to Kingdome Come.  ( about a 12 million dollar
ending that would probably have to be shot at least 10 times ).




So in the end all our heros, along with the Ewoks, Tribbles, Murtaughs, 
Holly McClain, and a guest apperance by Sean Connery as the KING, they 
all have a big party and drink till they need a complete blood transfusion.

They all go home, and live happily everafter.


But, after the credits, we hear an egg crack open!  Or was it something 
running on the floor???


LATERS

Rick Kaneda F.

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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Script Query: _The_Princess_Bride_
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:41:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.041332.25192@u.washington.edu> daynem@byron.u.washington.edu (Dayne Miller) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.143555.19153@Princeton.EDU> spencer@phoenix.princeton.edu (S. Spencer Sun) writes:
>>
>>:-)  but the whole scene is a gem... (even if it is bullshit
>>swordfighting, which someone has said on this newsgroup before)
>>
>    I've taken some fencing classes myself, and my instructor has been the 
>Northwest champion several times in (I believe) epee and foil. He's also in 
>training for the 1996 Olympic fencing team. Anyway, according to what I've
>been taught, the fencing in The Princess Bride, while somewhat contrived and
>actually quite slow, is one of the more accurate examples of swordplay in 

I hear you.  I'm a timetraveler myself, currently in training for the
1826 Timetravel Relay Regatta, and I find myself chuckling everytime
I see that "time displacement" scene in Terminator 2.  What were/are/will
they (be) thinking?!?

GMS
From: exujep@exuexu.ericsson.se (Jeff Epstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Help with movie title
Date: 26 Aug 92 12:23:23 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems

I don't know but it sounds great.
Jeff
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From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Subject: A really silly argument about ship names in Alien movies
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:50:47 GMT

In article <5812@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at> mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner) writes:
>From article <1992Aug25.215809.14447@sura.net>, by wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes):
>> In article <5808@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at> mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner) writes:
>>> I don't need people
>>>wrecking the plausibility of film props just to show off their literacy.
>> Some people just have *no* sense of humor...8->
>This answer should have gone to talk.bizarre.

Why?  OK, let me put it to you less humorously: anyone who isn't familiar
with Joseph Conrad's work won't get the referrence from the ship names
and their enjoyment (or lack thereof) of the movies is not affected.
Anyone that does will recognize not only Scott's referrence but the
fact that Cameron is referring to the *same* work and will probably realize
this is a deliberate tribute both to the original and Conrad's work.

If you don't like this sort of sly self-referentialism in movies, fine.
But don't degrade yourself by insulting the intelligence of the movie-
makers simply because you didn't enjoy what they did.  It's embarassing
to acknowledge you as another free-thinking sentient when you do things
like that...

I won't even bother boring you with explanations like, "Well, maybe
Conrad has become wildly popular in the future and everyone quotes
him, the way a lot of people like to quote Shakespeare now," or
"Perhaps there's a new naming convention centered around literature,"
or the ever-popular "It's a ^*%$ing movie, lighten up!"...
-- 
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Disclaimer:  The author apologizes for any thought-provoking material he may
	     have accidentally included and promises not to do it again.
Datclaimer:  My employers wouldn't WANT to share some of my opinions.
From: morten.steinhauer@thcave.no (Morten Steinhauer) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Plot holes in Alien^3 (*S
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:03:00 GMT
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Reply-To: morten.steinhauer@thcave.no (Morten Steinhauer) 


sjurk@dhhalden.no (SJUR KRISTIANSEN) wrote:

  > - Why did the facehugger in the opening bleed acid? because it wanted to???
  >   It must have been hurt in some way, but there was no signs of that 
  >   happening...

        It may have been damaged when it tried to get through one of
        the cryo tubes.

  > - How the H*LL did Ripley get impregnated?! The only shots of *ANY*   
  >   facehuggers was of the one in question #1, and that little bugger

        I had the impression that this facehugger also impregnated
        Ripley. We see some X-ray (whatever) shots of a skull
        (Ripley's) with a facehugger attached.
        But this presents another problem. Facehuggers die after they
        are finished (Alien)... Perhaps they don't after all?

        ..or (and this has been discussed for months here) there were
        *two* eggs and thus two facehuggers.

Morten Steinhauer
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From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: ALIENS 1-2-3
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:37:33 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <1992Aug26.212204.9420@u.washington.edu>, by mcclaine@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Casey):
> 	Secondly, the only reason I can see that all of the crew, even
> 	Bishop would go down to the planet is the idea of cost-effectiveness.

Yes, in addition to saving at least one man, you save the space and
food for the return trip for all those who are killed because of that
decision.  In any system, you build in a bit of redundancy at
bottlenecks to avoid major losses.

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From: rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (Jeff Bytof)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Alien(s|\^([3-9]|[1-9][0-9]+))?
Keywords: regular expression Alien Aliens Alien^3 Alien^4 ...
Date: 29 Aug 92 00:50:51 GMT
Organization: sio
NNTP-Posting-Host: lutherlab.ucsd.edu

Jeff Bytof inquires:

|     Is
|      
|              Alien([s]|[\^]([3-9]|[1-9]([0-9])+))?       (37 chars.) 
|
|     a correct regular expression matching the series of movie titles
|     Alien, Aliens, Alien^3, Alien^4.... ?

Yes, indeed.

|     Are shorter regular expressions possible?

Only slightly:

           Alien(s|\^([3-9]|[1-9][0-9]+))?          [31 chars.]

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From: ckt4x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Curt Tsui)
Subject: Blade Runner Dir. Cut Date!
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 13:02:19 GMT

I just found out that Ridley Scott's director's cut of Blade
Runner is to be released on Sept. 11 (in 70mm in some areas!).
The trailer didn't have any new footage tho'.
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From: defon@yoyodine.edu
Subject: A Spell For Chameleon
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:17:38 GMT

   Several years ago, I saw a small paragraph in "Starlog" magazine  
concerning a movie adaptation of Piers Anthony's fantasy novel  "A Spell  
For Chameleon".  However, I've never heard anything else about it.  I'm  
assuming the project was cancelled.   Does anybody else know more about  
this?
From: lallemen@degaulle.loria.fr (Yannick Lallement)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Sigourney pictures
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:06:11 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.sf.movies
Organization: INRIA-Lorraine / CRIN - Nancy - France


I'm looking for some pictures of Sigourney Weaver. Does anyone knows
about an ftp site where I could find it ?

NB : As this group is currently discussing Alien, I hope someone could
help me !

Thanks !

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From: jamesbs@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (JJ Glamma)
Subject: Re: What's wrong with Alien^3? How much bandwidth do we have?
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:09:09 GMT

ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:

>In article <9223901.1740@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> jamesbs@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (JJ Glamma) writes:

>Brett was bleeding.  Parker was bleeding.  They specifically stated that
>Dallas did *not* bleed, and we don't know about Lambert.  That's two out
>of four, with a possible third.

>I'd say the Alien draws blood.

*IF* the Alien in the first film draws blood (I didn't see Brett bleed, and
I've already said why the alien was not following its normal M.O. when it
iced Parker.) it certainly does not draw it in the lovely gouts we see in the
third film.

This is related to the fact that the first 2 films had something called 
"suspense" which was replaced by buckets of blood in the third.

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From: goudswaa@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter Goudswaard)
Subject: Re: Movie indentification request
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 23:10:14 GMT

demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:

>In article <92227.065231MNHCC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, Marty Helgesen <MNHCC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>...
>> We are trying to identify a movie remembered from about 1980.
>> Here is the plot:  A highly lethal virus escapes from an
>> experimental lab in Canada.  The first victim is a bird.  Some
>> children on a snowy playground bury the bird and in touching it,
>> start the spread of the disease.  A woman flees to the USA, not
>> realizing she is safe from the disease, but she is a carrier and
>> leaves death in her wake.  One stop she makes is at a fast-food
>> place that has just received an order for many sandwiches to be
>> delivered.  An employee touches the money she gives him and goes
>> on making sandwiches...
>> 
>> Can anyone identify the movie.  We've tried movie index sources
>> we know of, but hope someone's memory will help.  For all we
>> know, it might not be a theatrical release, but maybe a TV movie
>> or even an episode of a TV show.

My first post to this group (I am prefer "lurkerdom" if at all possible),
but I wonder if this is the same move I once saw called "Search...Destroy"?
It was about this terrorist group that unleashes something from a
U.S. bio warfare center.

Interestingly, although when I rented it, the name of it was "Search...
Destroy", I later came across the same movie in a different shop that
was titled "Search and Destroy".

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From: gdg019@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Ridley McIntyre)
Subject: Cut scenes from movies
Organization: Ironpig Arcadia, Coventry, UK
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 10:29:54 GMT

Talking about scenes cut and tampered with in films, riddle me this...


What was the ACTUAL conversation between Deckard and Abdul Ben Hassan, the
Egyptian fake snake dealer, in BLADE RUNNER?

The one we see goes something like:

D: Artificial Snake Licence XB71. This your work?
H: Yes.
D: Who did you sell it to?
H: Not many people could afford such a quality.
D: (Grabs him) Look, pal...
H: Taffy Lewis's. Down in Fourth Sector. Chinatown.

But while Hassan is saying his last line, Deckard's still rambling on, and
it's easy to see. So, what the f$ck is he saying? Anyone know?

Anyone know of any other incidents?

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From: ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: ALIENS 1-2-3
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:46:05 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <u906789.714791167@bruny> u906789@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Mark Julian Turner) writes:

>Everything that possibly could go wrong, did go wrong(and then some).
>If the dropship is damaged/destroyed normally someone remote-pilots the
>2nd one. But the transmitter was also destroyed preventing this from being
>done.

I see.  What about about on a planet where the remote unit was destroyed
before the marines got there?  Or there wasn't one in the first place?
Or it just hasn't come on-line yet?

>  The destruction of the dropship was a  totally unforseen event which
>normally would probably be highly unlikely

"And, because it's so unlikely, we won't bother with a back-up plan.
If those grunts manage to destroy their dropship, screw 'em."


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From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
Subject: Re: Alien^3? Loved it.
Originator: smintz@alamo
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:17:52 GMT


Thumbs up, SW
Stephen
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From: welter@fwi.uva.nl (Richard Welter)
Subject: Re: ALIENS 1-2-3
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:47:41 GMT

u906789@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Mark Julian Turner) writes:

>ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:

>>In article <2745@nlsun1.oracle.nl> gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley) writes:

>>>    I agree 100% with this. This is a plot hole in Aliens. The only way
>>>they could justify leaving no one on the Sulaco during the mission was
>>>that the computers on board were smart enough to act as human overseers
>>>or backup. And if this were so, a destroyed dropship would mean the
>>>marines needed help, drop the second ship on automatic.

>>Or not drop it on automatic.  With a human, you'd radio back up and tell
>>him to drop the second ship.  If they could communicate with the computer
>>to do that, it wouldn't have to be automatic (what if no one survived?
>>No point in dropping the ship).

>If a computer could fly a dropship then why do they need Ferro & Spunkmyer?

That's the point, the computer couldn't do it, so they should have left a 
backup pilot on the Sulaco to fly the second dropship.

>>But there should be *some* way of getting the second ship down.
                      ^^^^^^^^^^
>There was. If the APC had not been destroyed in the dropship crash, then 
>someone would have remote-piloted the other dropship from the safety of the 
>APC and gone back to the Sulaco and "nuked the place from orbit"(i hope that's a 
>correct quote). At least that was the plan...

Ok, let's make that, there should be some *secure* way of getting the second 
ship down.

Richard.

>>-- 
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>>ccoprdj@prism.gatech.edu         |        anyone."

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From: sjurk@dhhalden.no (SJUR KRISTIANSEN)
Subject: Re: Plot holes in Alien^3 (*S
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:44:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.093007.7744@comp.lancs.ac.uk> marc@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Marc Goldman) writes:

>I always assumed that the face huggers could use acid to get at thier
>victims. If you go back to the first film, the face hugger found little
>problem getting through John Hurts helmet.

>I thought it used it's acid for this.

>Marc

Yeah! Right!!! I didn't think of that! Hmmm, that's one of my gripes done 
with! Thanx!
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From: serge@dgbt.doc.ca (Serge Ah Hee)
Subject: Re: PLEASE - No more Alien stuff !!!!
Organization: The Communications Research Centre
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 18:18:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.014337.6885@mel.dit.csiro.au> gre253@mis.csiro.au (Steven Green) writes:
>AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!
>
>PLEASE - enough with the Alien movies - aren't you guys getting bored shitless
>with this topic yet!

No, not yet

>Personally I'm starting to get turned off the whole idea of ever watching
>any of these movies again.
>
>How about starting a new newsgroup rec.arts.alien.agrovation
>
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From: bryce@sdf.lonestar.org (Bryce Hamm)
Subject: Re: AKIRA - Great flick! - But what's it about ?
Organization: sdf Public Access UNIX, Dallas--unrestricted free shell access
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:25:18 GMT

Akira wasa a rad movie.. the animation was rad, when i first saw it
i saw it on the VCR so i watched lots of the 
secnes in slowmotion which was so rad.. it came
right in with Terminatior 2, just i guess i salute
akira more because it was done by hand and not a
computer..  if you want
to understand AKIRA better, get the comic books, they explain it
really well.. 1-9 should do it..
From: marc@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Marc Goldman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Alien^3? Loved it.
Date: 3 Sep 92 08:30:30 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

In article <5401@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp) writes:

>	And I guess people miss the point of MOVIE. A movie IS NOT REALITY.

A very true statement. 

So it always amazes me why people spend hours and hours writing long
messages picking holes in something which is pure fantasy.


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From: ratinox@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (Richard Pieri/Stainless Steel Rat)
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Subject: Re: AKIRA - Great flick! - But what's it about ?
Date: 27 Aug 92 00:17:08 GMT
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>>>>> "BH" == Bryce Hamm <bryce@sdf.lonestar.org> writes:

BH> Akira wasa a rad movie.. the animation was rad, when i first saw it i
BH> saw it on the VCR so i watched lots of the secnes in slowmotion which
BH> was so rad.. it came right in with Terminatior 2, just i guess i salute
BH> akira more because it was done by hand and not a computer..  if you
BH> want to understand AKIRA better, get the comic books, they explain it
BH> really well.. 1-9 should do it..

Just a little nit, but while the animation was done by hand, much was
synced up from computer calculations and plots. That's why so much of the
machinery looks and works like real machinery looks and works, and why the
vehicle light afterimages look so cool.

--Rat

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