From: dali@stein.u.washington.edu (David A. Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: Splitting this Group
Date: 19 Dec 92 07:48:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec19.074850.6284
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <37926@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> where@maple.circa.ufl.edu writes:
>WHY WHY WHY????   Why would you want to split this group? I've owned a 
>Air-Cooled VW for over 5 years, I've owned a H2O pumper for almost 2 now.
>I Enjoy Reading All This Stuff!!!  Alot of the stuff I learned how to fix
>on my Beetle has been helpful on my A-1 Scirocco. If you look at the
>swing axle Bug, then at the FWD Scirocco, a CV job looks like a CV job.
>If you Look at tightening the AC belt on the Scirocco, it looks like
>tightening the fan belt on the Bug, you just have the Alt pulley in the
>way (but it comes off!!) A sway bar installation on the rear of my Bug
>is just like the installation of an aftermarket sway bar to my Scirocco.
>    So, to those of you who want to split this group, I have only this to
>say:  You could learn alot from a H2O Pumper, just as I did from my Air-
>Cooled!!   
>   P.S. If you think that the H2O pumpers are posting more, its just because
>we have H2O to worry about and you can just think of it the way I know you
>already do: (Water? Heck, We never have to check our Water!!!! :)
>    WHERE@Maple.Circa.Ufl.Edu
>       Fahrvergnugen= Driving 80+ mph in a VW
>   Whether Air or H2O, It's still A VW!!!!!!!

Sorry but I really have to disagree with you.
 
As an owner of a 1970 Squareback, I could really care less about
some of the issues posted by owners of GTi's who are all obsessed
with the chip in their computer or how fast they went around some
corner.
 
All of the articles on the heater recalls, anti-freeze, things falling
off three months after the new car was purchased, all of these things
are completely meaningless to me.
 
I get into my car and drive it.  I worry about my mechanic dying.  He
is the only one in this area who can do an honest engine-rebuild.  I
worry about rust, and how to fix or replace my clock.  I drive 60-65
on the freeway.  The car has never failed me.
 
Air cooled owners are driving near-antiques.  We are enthusiasts, fanatics
some may say.  Water cooled VWs are VWs yes, but they don't turn
our heads like air cooled VWs do.  I enjoy VW-spotting, the sight
of a well-kept Karmann Ghia or Split/Oval can make my day.  A
Rabbit, Dasher (???), or Jetta is just another car on the road
to us.  Sure, they are good cars, who would argue with that?  But
there is a different philosophy that we air cooled drivers live by
from the water cooled drivers.  We have different thoughts and feelings
about our buggies.  No offense, I am not saying that we are better,
just different.
 
And so I must strongly call for votes on this.  I am willing to
tally up the yes and no votes and present it to whoever I present
it to to make a new group.  I think that if people want to read both,
they can subscribe to both.  But I am getting tired of reading
through 33 articles a day, and only seeing two or three that pertain
to air cooled VWs.
 
Thank you.
 
David Lee

-- 
"There are hundreds of tiny balls in every machine, and hundreds of machines
in every pachinko parlour, and a pachinko parlour on every block in every
town in Japan; so there are billions of little balls falling forever, like a
chromium-plated hailstorm that never melts."  - from "Clive James in Japan"