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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 92 08:40:49 MST
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From:         Mohan Matthen <MMATTHEN@UALTAVM.BITNET>
Subject:      loading personal.spl
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From: Mohan Matthen
                     Associate Dean (Humanities and Fine Arts)
                     Faculty of Arts, University of Alberta
I had a problem with personal.spl similar to the one that Allan Needel
reports.
  I think the problem is that there is an NBI-supplied file called
personal.spl lurking in the NB4 directory (It is only about 5K long.) I managed
to get my own file loading by copying it on top of the personal.spl in NB4.
(My file being resident in the old NB directory.)

I'm back to the list after a long absence, trying to learn the intricacies of
the new job, listed above in the form. Two quick questions about NB4. What's
the new name for startup.int, or do I have to turn on the speller, adjust the
ruler line and turn on automatic uppercasing manually each time I power up?And
s econd, I am delighted that smart quotes are included in the new version: is
there some way I can get them to print on an HPIII, internal fonts?

Generally speaking I am pleased with the new version. I note some frustration
with all the new keyboard assignments, but that is just a transitional
problem.
  Why have they abandoned F11 and F12 though? I hate hunting and pecking for
ScrollLock and NumLock.

                                       Best,
                                       Mohan
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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 92 20:00:28 EST
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From:         Allan Needell <NASSH100@SIVM.BITNET>
Subject:      loading personal.spl
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From: Allan Needell

I've checked earlier discussion and note that Austin Kerr and one or two
others reported problems loading personal.spl with nb4. Have you solved your
problem? How?

I now note that I simply cannot seem to load my fairly large personal.spl
file. I see that personal.spl is listed in the nbcustom.set file, that it
lurks in the nb4/spell (slash reversed to protect the unix world). It simply
doesn't load from the menu, using the load command or any way else. (I get
"done" but checking memory usage using func me or the box that appears within
the menu screen (and testing a word that is in personal.spl) reveals it is not
loaded. I can't recall for sure if it ever worked with nb4. I thought it did,
but maybe I just didn't notice its absence.

Before I go on to reinstall, has anyone figured out/solved the problem?

Allan Needell
National Air & Space Museum
Smithsonian Institution
Washington, DC 20560  (BITNET: NASSH100@SIVM)
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 92 00:11:47 EST
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From:         "Jerome T. Walsh" <walshj@SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Is this a fug or a beature?
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Thanks to everybody who responded to explain Ctrl-Alt-Esc to me.  One of the
joys of this list is that it makes learning fun.  Hoochee wawa!
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 92 10:17:35 -0500
From:         "Sarah L. Higley" <slhi@TROI.CC.ROCHESTER.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Hazarding the Customs
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Thank you, William Bodiford.  You write: "Did you also reconfigure directional
keys in the HELP section of the keyboard table? ...in NB3 at least it is
labeled: table=MENU+CTRL+SHIFT+ALT."  This offers a ray of hope-- I'm not
at home but at school, so I can't verify it, but I know that the first table
listed in both NB.KBD and NBLINGUA.KBD has a comma after the "equals" sign:
table=,MENU+CTRL+SHIFT+ALT.  This is the table that governs the face or
unshifted value of each key, presumably.  But I remember being confused by
the string headed by a comma.  In NB2 the first table is designated Table=
and nothing after it.  What does this comma do?  Where is the help menu table?

Another possibility.  Given NotaBene's reduplicative tendencies, isn't there
an alternative way to invoke the language keyboards besides toggle switches in
the control table?  What about commands issued at the command line?  Again,
I'm away from my Lingua manual.  Are there such commands?  Do I have to rely
on a ctrl key toggle switch to get the Greek keyboard?

I would also like an answer, please, to my first question about redundant
commands.  I'm looking to clear up some spaces on my control table.  CTRL P
and CTRL M seem to duplicate the CTRL Gray + key.  Is this true?  And what about
CTRL Z?  As far as I can tell, it doesn't do anything.  It's description is
ov,r,l.

Many thanks, Sarah Higley
From: ENG1787@VAX2.QUEENS-BELFAST.AC.UK (L.LITVACK)
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Subject: How about meeting at the MLA convention?
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:36:00 GMT
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My confirmation of accommodation at the MLA in New York has just arrived.
I assume that some of you will be going to the Big Apple for the
convention; would you like to try to meet up at some point for drinks or
dinner?

Leon Litvack
ENG1787@uk.ac.queens-belfast.vax2
From: mrh3b@FARADAY.CLAS.VIRGINIA.EDU (Marvyn R. Harris)
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Date: 6 Nov 92 22:40:22 GMT
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It's at least Scripture, Robert:

Numbers 11:5 We remember the fish, which we did eat in Egypt
freely; the cucumbers, and the melons, and the leeks, and the
onions, and the garlick:

Roy Harris - University of Virginia
mrh3b@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU, mrh3b@Virginia.Bitnet
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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 92 01:09:55 IST
From:         JEARLS@CSBSJU.EDU
Subject:      RE: Toshiba patch not helpful
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May I once again urge my so-called radical solution of redoing df tp=0 in
the nbcustom.set.  I still have experienced no difficulties with it.
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 92 16:38:00 +0800
From:         FCTMOORE@HKUCC.BITNET
Subject:      Re: SET and downloading fonts
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The behaviour reported is indeed curious.  I am afraid I can't answer the
questions about NBPI= etc; but I have a supplementary question of my own.
I often use Bitstream Garamond fonts.  In my case the program downloads
only when necessary, with one exception: it always downloads the 30 pt
Roman Garamond font, even when this font is not used anywhere in the
document, and it downloads it first.  This is unaccountable, and somewhat
annoying, since the file is quite large and takes an appreciable time to
download; it also eats up a good chunk of printer memory.
Tim Moore
Department of Philosophy
The University of Hong Kong
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 92 16:32:06 EST
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From:         Allan Needell <NASSH100@SIVM.BITNET>
Subject:      speller/em-dash revisited
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From: Allan Needell

Many may recall, in the days of NB3.1, the resurfacing of a wonderfully useful
description by Tony Woolsey of how to add to the default separators recognized
by the program so as to prevent the spell checker from flagging properly
spelled words separated by an em-dash.

Having just fixed my personal.spl file and getting it to work in NB4, I
decided to experiment and copy the separator tables I had inserted into the
NB3.1 default.set file into nbcustom.set in NB4. As of now I can report
complete success. Even words separated by the NB4 "ALT-white/minus"
"ALT-white/minus-white/minus" etc. characters are spell checked separately.

I have three questions: Does anyone know of any reason not to do this?

Does anyone know of any separator characters that should either be added or
deleted from the version used in NB3.1 (I simply added ascii 196 to the table
to Tony's standard table to take care of em dashes)

Has anyone experimented very much with the nb4 en and em dashes to the point
of printing them with an HPIII. Can you tell me exactly what ALT-white/minus
gives you. (For that matter, an account of experience with the so-called smart
quotes would be of interest as well).

Thanks.

Allan Needell
National Air & Space Museum
Smithsonian Institution
Washington, DC 20560  (BITNET: NASSH100@SIVM)
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 92 22:17:18 DST
From:         "Nicolai Winther-Nielsen" <INNWN@VM2.UNI-C.DK>
Subject:      Re: Break XPL-program
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On the break-problem, Itamar:
I have spent a sobering day trying to improve my programs, so that I avoid the
reboots, and that has been helpful for my personal utilities.
However, do you have any shorts-cuts to suggest? How could one save one`s labor
?
Nicolai Winther-Nielsen
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From:         Backer.Johnsen@PSYCH.UIB.NO
Subject:      Re: changing symbol sets on HP laserjet
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> However, now I'm using the D/N symbol set all the time.
> It would be neater to change to that set just for the one character
> and return to the more standard one.

How about using your normal Finnish/Swedish character set and
changing the keyboard table.  For instnce : in the normal (o-with-two-
dots) position place a combination CTRL and that key to produce the
phentically equivivalent o-with-slash.  Have a look in any ASCII
table for the values of the characters.  The printer will produce the
correct ones.  That is fine if you mix languages.

Alternatively, have two printer tables, one for each character set.
From: HOLSCHUH@UCS.INDIANA.EDU
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Subject: Toshiba help on the way
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:15:08 GMT
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Thanks to everybody for looking into this so quickly! As Ken Salzberg
has found out, the menu setting for top margin does not work. I noted J. P.
Earls' rather radical solution, but then had a chance to discuss the matter
with Michael at NBI before trying it out. Here is the answer:
The menu access to the top margin setting is broken. It will be fixed soon,
specifically for each driver with this problem. In the meantime, Michael offers
the following _TEMPORARY_ fix (he emphasized the modifier):
In \nb4, call NBFORMAT.SET.
At the end of that file, add the line "DF TF=1" and return.
Store the file.

I may not get a chance to try this at the office before Monday, and our
mainframe is scheduled for downtime during much of the weekend anyway.
Albrecht, holschuh@iubacs, holschuh@ucs.indiana.edu.
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 92 17:52:43 EST
From:         "Paul J. Bodin" <pjb3@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: spellers and separator tables
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Frank Stewart writes:

>         One problem I had--solutions welcome: I'd like to be able to have
> on the screen, and print, a lower case letter b with a dot under it.  Can
> this be done?

Yes, albeit in a somewhat awkward way.  There is an underdot mode that
works well enough.  The sequence would be <<MDUD>>b<<MDNM>> to create
a lowercase b with a dot beneath it.  You can go into underdot mode
each time you want to do it with Ctrl+0, or you can map the whole
shebang to a key.  Note that the << and >> represent the command
brackets, as usual.

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Paul J. Bodin                         Internet: pjb3@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
Union Theological Seminary               smail: 435-52nd Street
(718) 439-3549                                  Brooklyn, NY 11220
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 92 06:24:09 EST
From:         Robert Braham <RMB@CUNYVMS1.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: CTRL+ALT+ESC
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One of the other virtues/necessities I've found of ctrl-alt-escape
in Lingua is that it makes the program "lighter" (in Itamar's
beguiling phrase).  When I am in power mode, w/Ibid, Orbis,
Spellers (all the goodies) and have very little free memory
left (as reported by F7), I am unable to shell to DOS.  Does
anyone else have this problem?

But ctrl-alt-escape lightens it up, somehow, and I can slip the
surly bonds.

--
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 92 11:04:56 EST
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From:         "Jerome T. Walsh" <walshj@SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Permanent settings
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In Message Wed, 11 Nov 92 12:18:00 GMT, JAE2@VAXB.YORK.AC.UK writes:

>Aaron,
>
> I'll try you tips too.  What by the way does ff5 mean?  And does anyone know
> why mine sometimes says ff0?
> (Minor matter as I was fooling around and changed it to FF3 on the assumption
> it was font, and nothing happened - nothing bad, though, nothing good)
>
>Judy Evans  York UK
>jae2@uk.ac.york

Judy,
  FF means "font file" or "font face" or something like that, and is the
delta that determines whether you are going to print courier, or helvetica,
or times roman, or whatever.  ff0 is usually line printer, ff3 is usually
courier, ff5 is usually times roman.  Use F1 -> Types to see what's
available in the printer driver you currently have loaded.
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Dept. of Theology and Religious Studies                walshj@sjuvm.bitnet
St. John's University                                (718) 990-6161 x 5432
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From: pjb3@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Paul J. Bodin)
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Subject: Re: graphics included
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:04:09 GMT
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Nicolai Winther-Nielsen writes:

> Re Graphics (Quick Ref. p.134):
> Both in SLS and now in Lingua I have problems with including graphics. The
 imag
> e was produced in Windows paintbrush file.bmp which was then specified after
 th
> e IN-command. Even when no NB text follows the program freezes and I get the
 me
> ssage Too long lines - although the image is not of full page width.
> Any succesfull experiences?

In most cases (all that I know of) raw .BMP files are not ready for
the printer.  They must first be converted to the correct raster
graphics format for the printer involved, and only then may they be
included in an NB document.  All graphics included with the IN command
must be already prepared in this manner.  In other words, if when you
copy the graphics file concerned directly to the printer it prints
properly then it is ready to be included in your NB document.  The
printer driver just feeds it to the printer as-is without further
processing.

___________________________________________________________________________
Paul J. Bodin                         Internet: pjb3@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
Union Theological Seminary               smail: 435-52nd Street
(718) 439-3549                                  Brooklyn, NY 11220
From: guiller@CICA.ES (Guillermo Heredia)
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Subject: RE: DOCUMENTS
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        Hello, Roby:

>For example, speaking about the search for determinism and
>chaos in time series, what do you think of the different
>methods to choose the two parameters:
>
>1) LAG TIME (tau)
>2) EMBEDDING DIMENSION (m)
>
>used in the time-delayed phase reconstruction (Takens method)
>
>I'm aware of the methods by Liebert, Pawelzik and Schuster, 1991
>the one of Matt Kennel et al. (false nearest neighbours), and
>the one by Fraser and Swinney (mutual information and similar
>things).
>
>Have some of you used and perhaps compared them?
>

        That is a very interesting question. I use a method
due to Th. Buzug anf G. Pfister. It is a dual method: it uses
two algorithms, the 'Fill Factor' and the 'Integral Local
Deformation' (ILD). And best of all, it can detect optimal
delay time AND embedding dimension.

        The basic idea of the fill factor method is to request
an optimum utilization of the embedding space yielding the
maximum separation of trajectories.

        The ILD method considers that points on neighboring
trajectories in the original phase space remain neighboring
points for small evolution times, and are only separated
according to a positive Lyapunov exponent in the chaotic case.
In bad reconstructions, trajectories can cross other
trajectories, and flows of contrary directions aproach each
other. That is what ILD measures.

        I have tested these algorithms on standard systems
(Lorenz, Rossler chaos, Rossler hyperchaos, ...) and works
well. It is relatively fast compared to the other methods.

        There are other methods, but I have not tested them. I
can tell you what Buzug and Pfister say about Factor / ILD .

        - Fraser and Swinney's 'mutual information': it is
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 11:54:29 BDB
From:         Roberto Andrea Mueller <DEQX3887@BRUFV.BITNET>
Subject:      'behind'

Gerton Heyne sent this question:

>*I'm very interested in what is 'behind' the frac-l information-list.
>*Would you be so kind to send me some information about how to use
>*this list. Should I use "SUBSCRIBE" in order go further?
>*Thank you

As  you  certainly will read the informations, questions and comments
in this  LIST  you will recognize that 'behind'  this list is the aim
of  scientific  and  artistic interest in  fractal  knowledge. One of
several  mountain  peaks  pointing  out  on this  large ocean  is the
reception of new persons, frequently very enthusiastic but not always
so very pacient. I belive you and  we together are joining this task.
On the other hand, if you want  just to  read  the  frequently  asked
questions, Ken Shirriff sent the places where you can find information:
pit-manager.mit.edu{18.72.1.58}:/pub/usenet/news.answers/fractal-faq
or to
ftp.uunet{137.39.1.9 or 192.48.96.9}:/usenet/news.answers/fractal-faq.z
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:58:12 EST
From:         McClelland_R%PSB%BLS@NIH3PLUS.BITNET
Subject:      Mackey-Glass Equation

|Date: 11-12-92  8:55am
|From: McClelland_R:PSB:BLS
|  To: FRAC-L@GITVM1:BITNET:NIH
|Subj: Mackey-Glass Equation
|In-Reply-To: Message from FRAC-L@GITVM1:BITNET of 11-12-92
------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not exactly sure what you are getting at here. Are you asking for
the parameters of the Mackay-Glass equation that generate chaotic
behavior or are you asking for a program to integrate the differential
portion of the Mackay-Glass equation?

Rob

------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm looking for the algorithm to integrate the Mackey-Glass difference-
differential equation, which shows, for certain values of the parameters,
a chaotic behavior.
Any idea, source code and/or references are welcome!
Thanks in advance. Marco.
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 11:54:01 MEZ
From:         "Andy J. Novak" <A8131GAA@AWIUNI11.EDVZ.UNIVIE.AC.AT>
Subject:      Hurst exponent

Dear Frac-lers:
I fully agree that we should start some new discussions
on this list rather than only ask and answer questions like
how to leave the list or from where to get some files.

I want to start some work on time series analysis and I am
quite interested in questions about estimating the best time lag
and enbedding dimension.
In one of the last e-mails the HURST-Exponent of time series
was mentioned. I have never heard about that. Could one of you
explain to me how  this exponent is defined?

                         With best regards,

                                           Andy J. Novak
                                          Vienna/ Austria
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From:         CARNIEL@UDST02.CINECA.IT
Subject:      RE: DOCUMENTS

Rather than keeping on asking for papers and documents (thing that can be done
personally), why don't we start some useful new discussion????

For example, speaking about the search for determinism and chaos in time
series, what do you think of the different methods to choose the two parameters:
1) LAG TIME (tau)
2) EMBEDDING DIMENSION (m)

used in the time-delayed phase reconstruction (Takens method)

I'm aware of the methods by Liebert, Pawelzik and Schuster, 1991,
the one of Matt Kennel et al. (false nearest neighbours), and the one by
Fraser and Swinney (mutual information and similar things).

Have some of you used and perhaps compared them?

Hoping to have given new life to FRAC-L, I wait for your comments.

Roby.
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