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From: kens@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Transporting thru shields?
Date: 8 Jan 93 03:46:08 GMT
Organization: Mankato State University

In article <2121.2b461aad@mbcl.rutgers.edu>, wilson@mbcl.rutgers.edu writes:
> 
> 	It has been my impression that transporters cannor be
> utilized thru shieds.  
> 	The repoeat epidosde where Scotte returns prompts this 
> question/comment.  The ship Geordi and Scottie are on 
> cleary has the shields up - but are transported off the 
> Gelico. But I remember that shields were lowered to
> transport the admiral-spy to a Romulan vessel - a bad time to do it
> if you don't have to.

YEAH, I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THEY HAD TO LOWER THE SHIELDS BEFORE USING THE
TRANSPORTER.  IN FACT, I CAN REMEMBER A FEW EPISODES THAT THEY WERE UNABLE TO
TRANSPORT SOMEONE BECAUSE THE SHIELDS WERE INTERFEREING WITH THE SIGNAL.
YOU WOULD THINK THAT WITH THEM BEING SO "ADVANCED", THAT THEY COULD HAVE COME
UP WITH A SYSTEM THAT WOULD WORK THROUGH THE SHIELDS.
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From: dbasinge@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mike Basinger)
Subject: DS9: Acting
Organization: Indiana University
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 05:31:38 GMT

No Spoilers here

I'm just want to give MHO of the acting in ST:DS9

Avery Brooks (Sisko): Did a good acting job. A good choice for a
commander in DS9.

Nana Visitor (Kira Nerys): She had a couple of good scenes, but had
too many whining scenes (sorry if you consider that a spoiler).

Terry Farrell (Dax): Came off kinda air-headish too me. Would like to
see her in a Troi outfit though.

Colm Meaney (O'Brien): Came off as a bad version of Scotty. I think
Colm will develope in the show.

Armin Shimerman (Quark): I like his character, the first Ferengi that
didn't bother me.

Cirroc Lofton (Jake): Finally a normal kid in space, not too smart or
annoying. Let's hope the writing keep it this way.

Rene Auberjonois (Odo): Look acting, but I could here Clayton
sometimes when he talked.

Siddig El Fadil (Doc Bashir):  Real, real annoying, IMHO. Wesley of
the month club.

Mike

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From: patrice@cenparmi.concordia.ca (SCATTOLIN patrice)
Subject: Dax is too thin!
Organization: CENPARMI, Concordia University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:11:12 GMT


She is just too thin. There no room for this slug in her and 
internal organs at the same time. And why do they keep changing
sex when they change hosts?.  

I still think she had some internal organs removed or something maybe
part of the intestings or reproductive organs? Could she have kids
with this slug in there?


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From: roy@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Dax in previous lives?
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:02:16 GMT
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In <1993Jan8.205633.4273@cbfsb.cb.att.com> lawson@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (thomas.lawson) writes:
>>>>|> Where else have we seen the actress who plays Dax?  She looks very
>>>>|> familiar to me and my friends, but we can't place her.  Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> If you're talking about Terry Farrell, she was in
>>>>
>>>>       Back to School
>>>>       Beverly Hills Madam  (TV)
>>>>       The Deliberate Stranger (TV)
>>>>       Hellrasier III: Hell on Earth
>>>>       "Paper Dolls"
>>>
>>>She also won a nation-wide Brooke Shields look-a-like contest about 7 or 8
>>>years ago and then went on to be a model.
>>>
>
>She reminded me of the actress who played Lana Lane from Superman's home town
>of Smallville, except for her hair color.
>
>TL

No, I think the actress you are talking about is Annette O'Toole.
She (AT) can be seen in 48 Hours as Nick Nolte's girlfriend.
Her hair color is red, and natural I think, though I have no proof.

Regards,
Tom Rogers
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From: roholdr@ccu.umanitoba.ca (R Ross Holder Jr)
Subject: Re: Is there a boot "Hotel Royal"?
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:47:40 GMT

In <1993Jan7.112708.23534@midway.uchicago.edu> lidz@quads.uchicago.edu (adam lidz) writes:

>>...I think it's safe to say there is no such
>>book.

>Doesn't thins just mean that someone here needs to write it, send it to
>paramount?

Someone named Todd Matthews? :)
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From: tvf@cci632.cci.com (Tom Frauenhofer)
Subject: Re: PERFORMANCE PROGNOSIS: DSN - EMISSARY
Organization: Northern Telecom, Network Applications Systems, Rochester, NY
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:01:19 GMT

In article <rawdon.726775166@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>In <1ibhcsINN7iu@shelley.u.washington.edu> gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang) writes:
>>OVERALL GRADE: 		2.0 (of a possible 4.0)
>
>Well what do you know?  I marked it down a tad for being basically the same
>old TNG runaround pretending to be something new, but otherwise we agree.
>
>>	So, bottom line, mediocre beginning...but some potential for good
>>characters, more so than the TNG crew....
>
>Almost ANY series would have more character potential than the TNG crew!  Even
>Space Rangers (gag).


My co-workers and I have taken to calling Space Rangers "Star Trek:The
Proctology Exam Results."  Makes the show tolerable to us...

More potential?  Maybe, but I'm quite dubious here.
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From: TSAKETO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: DS9 on Superstation WGN channel 9 Chicago
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit MI  U.S.A.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:54:40 GMT

In article <C09CuF.1GD@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
bau55536@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Larry Combs Jr) writes:
 
>
>DS9 is scheduled to be shown on Sunday Jan. 3 at 7pm.  Whether or not
>it will come over the cable feed is another story.
>
 
I hoped to catch DS9 last night (Jan 3rd) on WGN, which I get thru my
cable system. It was not shown, now I have to wait until the 10th when
the local (Detroit) FOX station will air it.
 
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From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: Symbiotic Life forms:DS9 (Possible Spoilers)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:03:06 GMT
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In <sfICPg200iV103B3Y8@andrew.cmu.edu> msb0+@andrew.cmu.edu (Maulik Harish Shah) writes:

>I dont know if anybody has mentioned it before? But how could Symbiotic
>Life forms come about? Any method of procreation/survival that would
>require surgery (as Dax' flashback would indicate) wouldn't make sense.

Perhaps we were seeing the equivalent of a Cesarean section.
Or perhaps Trill worm originally lived in only one body, then
died when the host died.  Moving from one host to another
only became possible when surgery was developed.

Or perhaps the worm evolved in a species was already sentient.


>Also, why is Symbiosis necessary for the host? 

Good question.  How intelligent is the host?  How much conciousness,
if any, does the host retain when joined with the worm?

In TNG, the unocupied host seemed to be "blank" and devoid of
emotion, motivation, etc., though she could speak and was,
therefore, capable of language.

In DS9, the host whispered something (haven't figured out
what) before Dax was implanted.  This suggested even more
intelligence.

In both cases, the new hosts seemed well-groomed and maintained.
This suggests that they are not just pre-sentient apes in their
unjoined form.  What type of life do the hosts have before they
are occupied?  How are they raised (and by whom)?  

Some harder questions:  If the host does not retain
conciousness and volition (as Riker did not), is implantation
slavery?  Is it murder?



>Obviously, the host has its own reproductive
>life cycle 

Obviously.


>(because Dax, as a host has her own memories...)

When was this established?  (I've only seen the first episode of DS9.)


>    Also, can Odo be a Chameloid? The chick in ST:TUD never morphed to
>the extent that Odo did/does, but thats not to say that she couldn't!

However, she seemed to expend more energy to transform than Odo does
and was more capable of simulating human form.






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From: dsohl@spock.uucp (Daniel Sohl)
Subject: Re: Picard's Book.
Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:12:06 GMT

In article <2123.2b46ecca@mbcl.rutgers.edu> wilson@mbcl.rutgers.edu writes:
>
>	My last question was answered so well, that I 
>decided to ask another -- What is the book in Picard's
>Ready Room?  Twice I have seen direct reference to it -
>in "Chain of Command" the replacement captain gives it
>to Picard, and in the episode of the phony historian 
>time travelilng.

My impression, judging from Picard's character and the size of the book,
is that it is a book of Shakespearian plays (probably complete and
unabridged).
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From: trekker@leland.Stanford.EDU (Sanjai Dwivedula Rao)
Subject: Re: Did parts of DS9 dragged?!
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 11:29:36 GMT

In article <1iit37INNmbi@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> yjc@po.CWRU.Edu (Y H J. Chan) writes:
>
>Is it my imagination or that the trip in the wormhole dragged a great deal?
>The other parts were kind of alright ...

I think you're absolutely right.  The whole wormhole sequence was mixed with
the rest of the plot and dragged for about 45 minutes.  While the concept
and the content were good, I think they could have accomplished what they
wanted in a lot less time.

Sanjai Rao.



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From: frank@fnbc.com (Frank Mitchell)
Subject: Re: Deep (Space 9) Thoughts  (spoilers)
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 17:51:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.093833.13388@bsu-ucs> 00mjstum@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Matthew  
J. Stum) writes:
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> 1) Did anyone find it strange when Quark said "I love a woman in uniform"?

Some early (bad) episode mentioned that Ferengi women don't wear clothes.    
Maybe he thought it was kinky...  Obviously the writers intend to have him  
pursue her. 

> 2) Anyone else tempted to refer to Jake as The Sisco Kid?  <duck>

TV Guide succumbed to the temptation.

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From: charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV)
Subject: Re: DS9 possible error (Spoilers)
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:41:25 GMT

zg03+@andrew.cmu.edu (Zafrir E. Gan) writes:

There be SPOILERS here!



>   As we saw in the first few minutes the ship gets destroyed.  Clearly
>that ship was going into battle with the Borg.  Why would a ship go into
>battle with non-combatants such as the women and children.  When I say
>women and children I mean non-personel.  Other than this I give the show
>two tumbs up.

An emergency.  Perhaps there was no time to dump off the non-personnel.
(The big E didn't have the time either, if you recall from BOBW)

>IRON MIKE
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From: dhartung@chinet.chi.il.us (Dan Hartung)
Subject: Re: What's DSN's preamble? (SPOILER?)
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:34:37 GMT

lesnyd@monsanto.com (Larry E. Snyder) writes:
>
>Just in case...
>
>ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:
>> 
>> 
>> Question to anyone who has already seen the DS9 premiere....
>> 
>> How does the preamble go?  
>> Obviously this one can't be "these are the voyages of the starship
>> Enterprise...." so I'm wondering what it is, but PLEASE reveal nothing
>> else in the posting, and be sure to even spoiler protect that.

[real preamble]

Actually, Larry is quite wrong.  It goes like this:

"These are the non-voyages of the space station Deep Space Nine.  Its 
mission of uncertain length:  not to explore strange new worlds, not to 
seek out new life and new civilizations, to timidly wait where lots of people 
have gone before ... for strange new worlds, life, and civilizations to come
to us."

JK!  JK!
 I actually thought the premiere was quite strong and enjoyable.  Especially
in comparison to "Encounter at Farpoint".
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From: byork@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Counselor in Uniform
Date: 5 Jan 93 09:19:37 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

In article <1993Jan4.154539.1254@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, rrp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (rakesh.r.patel) writes:
> 
> 
> 
> I think Counseler Troi should always be in that blue uniform. Not for nothing,
> I think she looks MUCH better in the uniform than that purple outfit.
> 
> 
> Rakesh Patel


Yes, she does. As a matter of fact just about everyone I know agrees. I'm
tired of that gross-looking outfit that does nothing to make her look good.
I'm also tired of seeing breast shots of her in that purple outfit.
               Barry
From: 00rdharringt@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Rob Harrington)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: One LAST Time, O'Brien's rank.  After this, NO MORE OR B
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:50:11 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: Ball State University

In article <jgasaway-110193165745@mac20-152.ncsa.uiuc.edu>, jgasaway@ncsa.uiuc.edu (James Gasaway) writes:
> In article <1ismn6INNpm3@lester.appstate.edu>, BARNESD@vax1.elon.edu (Danny
> Barnes  ) wrote:
>> 
>> In <1993Jan10.215710.608@rivers> ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:
>> According to PARAMOUNT, O'Brien is a LIEUTENANT!  Read it on Page 143 of the
>> TNG Companion, 2nd column, 2nd from the last paragraph, published by POCKET
>> BOOKS which is owned by PARAMOUNT.
> 
> What's the copyright date?

Mine says 1991...

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From: dave@hpdstma.ptp.hp.com (Dave Waller)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Replacement for Picard
Date: 5 Jan 1993 00:18:54 GMT
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In article <1993Jan4.141727.570@rivers>, ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:
|> >>rank of Captain and give command (not "temporary command") of the Enterprise.
|> > 
|> > Gee, it sure looked like "temporary command" to me.  When Picard came back,
|> > Riker was no longer in command.  Or are you using a different definition of
|> > "temporary" than I am?
|> > 
|> > It seemed to me that Riker was put in command because there was no time (or
|> > resources) to get someone more qualified out to the ship, given the threat of
|> > the Borg.
|> 
|> That's not how it seemed to me.  Here is the conversation in "Best of Both
|> Worlds Part II" regarding his promotion:
|> Admiral: Commander Riker, I hereby promote you to the field commission of
|> 	Captain.  The Enterprise is your ship now.  Congratulations.
|> 	I only wish the circumstances were happier.

"Field Promotion" == temporary, in time of war. In fact, no permanent
promotion to Captain can take place in such a manner.


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From: rah@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Ray Aaron Hoffman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: O'brien's transportation
Keywords: O'brien, transporter
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:36:55 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


When O'brien was leaving the Enterprise for the station, Picard
*transported* him off the ship.  Maybe I missed some explanation 
of this, but wasn't the Enterprise docked?  Why was he transported?
Nostalgia?  It would seem to be a waste of energy to transport, rather
than simply hitching a ride on a turboshaft.

-Rah
From: dugal@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Douglas S. Gray)
Subject: Rank Structure (was Re: Uniform Colors...)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:59:00 GMT

In article <9535.406.uupcb@the-matrix.com> scott.hollifield@the-matrix.com (Scott Hollifield)  writes:
>On Tue, 29 Dec 1992 06:33:18 GMT, N2SX000 <N2SX@UNB.CA> wrote:
>
>N2>3 pips: two filled, one empty.  I have *never* seen anyone with a semi-c
>N2>ircle on their collar.  A Lt. Cmdr. is a type of commander.  Would you
>N2>say a Lt. junior grade is not a Lt.?  Lt. is an adjective which
>N2>modifies the noun Commander.  (geez, get picky, why don't you??? :) )
>
>You're mistaken.  A lieutenant commander is not a commander - the two are
>different, distinct ranks, just as commander and captain are two distinct
>ranks.  Grammatically, "lieutenant commander" is a two-word noun, not an
>adjective and a noun.  Lieutenant commanders are often addressed as
>"Commander" for the sake of expediency; this is true in Starfleet as well
>as today's U.S. Navy (and has an analogous equivalent in the Army, where
>"Lieutenant Colonel" is a step below "Colonel").

    Since Scott didn't provide it, I thought people might like to know
what the full rank structure looks like:

				Starfleet
Navy/Starfleet designation	Insignia	Army/Air Force/Marines

Ensign				*		2nd Lieutenant	
Lieutenant Junior Grade		*o		1st Lieutenant
Lieutenant			**		Captain
Lieutenant Commander		**o		Major
Commander			***		Lieutenant Colonel
Captain				****		Colonel
Commodore					Brigadier General
Rear Admiral					Major General
Vice Admiral					Lieutenant General
Admiral						General
Fleet Admiral					General of the Armies

   If I've got the Rear/Vice ordering wrong could some Navy person
correct me? (I'm former Air Force, so please forgive me)

Hope that helps when watching next time!

-Doug
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From: jcomer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan C Comer)
Subject: DS9 novel out yet?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:37:47 GMT

A recent "coming books" list indicated DS9 #1 due in February.  Does anyone
know if it is a novelization of "Emissary" (like TNG's novelization of
EaF)?  If so, I would have expected the novelization to have come out before
the episode, like "Relics" did.  If anyone knows about this, please e-mail me 
the info.  Thanks,

Jon
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
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Subject: Re: Deprived in UK! (also Re: Upcoming ST: TNG Program Guide 6.02)
Date: 9 Jan 93 17:18:26 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1993Jan8.131127.19025@spider.co.uk> ivan@spider.co.uk (Ivan Reid) writes:
<Anyway, I'm new to this group - please can someone tell me the ftp addr. for
<v6.02 of the Program Guide? Also, if you are in the UK and know of a way to
<see TNG episodes (I don't have a satellite dish), please let me know. The
<low-tech of ST (The Original) is starting to depress me (the amusement
<factor has worn off).

6.02 hasn't been released yet.  6.01 should be hitting the ftp site any day
now.  6.02 will be released to anonuucp (my site) this weekend, with the update
being sent to the ftp site this weekend as well.  There are a couple of
finishing touches that I want to put on the 6.02 release before it goes out.
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From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: TNG Uniforms vs. DS9 Uniforms vs. Academy Uniforms
Date: 12 Jan 93 00:40:05 GMT
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In <oLZ3wB1w165w@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca> vincent@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Victor W. Wong) writes:

>I interpret the DS9 uniform design as stemming mainly from Stewart's
>complaint of a few years ago, viz. that the two-piece design, while
>flattering, is not comfortable to wear for more than a few hours at a 
>time.

So, Patrick Stewart complains about the uniform, the costume
department redesigns it, and gives it to someone else on a
different show.

I guess the Cardassians and the Borg aren't the only ones
out to get him. :-)  


>I accept the explanation that the DS9 design is meant to be the uniform
>for station personnel as opposed to line personnel.  

Even though it's never been worn aboard any other station
the Enterprise visited.