From: deguc@holein1.Corp.Sun.COM (Bob Deguc)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bills vs. Dolphins
Date: 17 Nov 1992 17:51:40 GMT
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In article 97999@netnews.upenn.edu, satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:

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> 
> Having set that up, let me say that the Monday Night game was the WORST
> OFFCIATED piece of garbage that ever passed for a football game.  Where did
> these guys get their training??  Under the coach who called the Immaculate
> Reception??  the Hail Mary??? 

I wouldn't say it was the worst, but it was pretty bad.

> 
> The Bills kept getting generous spots all through the game. Especially in
> the last series.

Me thinks you listen to the three stooges too much.  of the two "generous"
spots, the three stooges were wrong with the first one.  TT did pick up the
1st down.  Look at a replay on tape.  TT squirmed to the 43.  I also don't
think that the second was "generous".  On both plays the Bills got enough
yardage where it wasn't even necessary to measure.


> 
> The pass interference call against Miami??? Where???  Get glasses coaches,
> get glasses.

This was clearly interfence, the replay confirmed it.  Vincent arrived well
before the ball, he didn't even argue the call.

> 
> When Bills TE McKeller got into the fight with Miami defender Coleman, I
> though "Oh... the Bills blew that one."  Lo and behold, penalty against
> Coleman.  What sort of crap is this??

I'd say the reason it drew a flag was tha Coleman pushed McKellers facemask.
I do agree it was a marginal call at best.

> 
> And my personal favorite, Kelly is about to be sacked by Coleman, he tosses
> the ball away.  I'm still waiting for that intentional grounding call.

If I would have been the ref, I would have thrown the flag, and I'm a Bills
fan.  In defense of the ref, it is a judgement call but he showed bad
judgement.

> 
> The Fins were no better.  Marino kept trying (and succeeding) into drawing
> the Bills defense offsides.

Let's not forget three others:

1.  On Miami's second TD, I could have sworn there was offensive holding on
Bennett.  But since they didn't show a replay of the line blocking, I
couldn't confirm this....

2.  Bills have the ball on the Miami 5 with 3rd down and 4.  An incomplete pass
into the endzone with several flags.  Lofton (?) is flagged for interference
and Bebee is flagged for holding.  They showed a replay that showed the defender
grab Bebee's jersey = defensive holding which would have been off-setting 
penalties and the down is replayed.

3.  Later after the Jones interception, the Bills had the ball on the Miami 1 
with 2nd down and goal.  A pass to Metzalars(?) was ruled incomplete.  In looking 
at the replay, I think this was a bad call.  This resulted in a four point swing.

BTW - TT's run to set up the 1st and goal two plays earlier - I would have
to agree with the refs this was not a TD.  It reminded me of a similar call
in a game last year between the Browns and the Redskins involving Metcalf.
 
> 
> Hopefully, when these two meet in the AFC Championship Game, it'll be more
> like a real football game.  (sorry Steelers,
> with O'Donnell and Greene out, the Championship game is iffy).

I agree, it would make a great Championship game.  It would be even better
if it were in Buffalo with lots of snow!!

In closing, it was a badly officiated game.  I felt that there were enough
bad calls on both sides were it didn't effect the ultimate outcome of the
game though......


Bob De Guc
Bills fan in *ANY* country!!!