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From: night@acm.rpi.edu (Trip Martin)
Subject: On cable?
Reply-To: night@acm.rpi.edu
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:48:36 GMT

Does anyone know when The Prisoner is next going to run on any of the
cable channels?  As best as I can tell, none of them are running it now.

I've never seen the series, but I've heard a bit about it from a couple
friends, and I'm looking to seeing it.
--
Trip Martin
night@acm.rpi.edu
From: chris@qmary.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: Prisoner fiction writing
Date: 24 Dec 92 17:19:41 GMT
Reply-To: chris@qmary.enet.dec.com ()
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From: pierson@empror.enet.dec.com (dave pierson)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: Who Runs the Village
Date: 22 Dec 92 16:22:37 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <oN74VB7w165w@spectrx.saigon.com>, dran@spectrx.saigon.com (Dran)
writes...
>        Various people have been posting about who really
>runs the village.  Why can't it be the upper echelons of 
>the British Government?  After all, in The Chimes of Big
>Ben, we see that a recognized employee (No6's superior) is
>aiding the village's attempts to fool No6.  How could it
>not be the British Gov (or an ally) ? ? ?

	Ahhhhhh, there are such things as DOUBLE AGENTS.  HMSS, heck EVERY
	secret service in the world, at one time or another has had the
	extreme displeasure of discovering that "one of ours" was one of
	_theirs_.  Sometimes at the very top.

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From: ano@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Adrian Ogden)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: Who Runs the Village
Date: 22 Dec 92 12:49:01 GMT
Organization: University of Reading

dran@spectrx.saigon.com (Dran) writes:


>        Various people have been posting about who really
>runs the village.  Why can't it be the upper echelons of 
>the British Government?  After all, in The Chimes of Big
>Ben, we see that a recognized employee (No6's superior) is
>aiding the village's attempts to fool No6.  How could it
>not be the British Gov (or an ally) ? ? ?

Or a faction?

But there are hints at other sides too. Nadia in TCOBB seems
to be genuinely eastern bloc, and in FFA #2 (the recently
promoted maid) says goodbye to her predecessor with the words
"give my regards to the motherland", which is how Russians
describe their country. (it might have been "homeland"; but
neither phrase is common in England, and she definitely doesn't
name anywhere specific.)


<<  Adrian Ogden -- "Sic Biscuitus Disintegrat" -- ano@csres.cs.rdg.ac.uk  >>
From: victor.volkman@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Victor Volkman) 
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: WHO RUNS THE VILLAGE
Date: 25 Dec 92 15:51:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: HAL 9000 BBS, (313)663-4173, Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Reply-To: victor.volkman@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Victor Volkman) 

-> From: dran@spectrx.saigon.com (Dran)
-> Subject: Who Runs the Village
->       Various people have been posting about who really
-> runs the village.  Why can't it be the upper echelons of
-> the British Government?  After all, in The Chimes of Big
-> Ben, we see that a recognized employee (No6's superior) is
-> aiding the village's attempts to fool No6.  How could it
-> not be the British Gov (or an ally) ? ? ?

The biggest argument I have against that is the overtly "international"
character of the village.  Would the British government want to house
its own defectors right alongside captured spies from other nations?
Isn't it also that episode in which No. 2 proclaims that "both sides
(East and West) are becoming more like eachother".
From: detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David De Trolio)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: On cable?
Date: 22 Dec 92 05:27:34 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

night@acm.rpi.edu (Trip Martin) writes:

>Does anyone know when The Prisoner is next going to run on any of the
>cable channels?  As best as I can tell, none of them are running it now.

To my knowledge, the show is exclusive to the Science Fiction
Network, and that is about the only place where you will find it
still running.

>I've never seen the series, but I've heard a bit about it from a couple
>friends, and I'm looking to seeing it.

It is an amazing show, a quality program which will keep you guessing
and wondering from episode to episode.



-- 
David De Trolio - (detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu)
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From: eam3@po.CWRU.Edu (Eric A. Meyer)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Episode Guide
Date: 31 Dec 1992 17:11:16 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: eam3@po.CWRU.Edu (Eric A. Meyer)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Could anyone point me to a complete episode guide?  At the minimum, it
should have the episodes in order, and any extra information (such as
guest stars and the like) would be great.  Thanks...

		-EMeyer

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From: roseberry@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: Who Runs the Village
Date: 31 Dec 92 21:23:54 EST
Organization: United States Coast Guard

In article <1992Dec22.132242.8225@ryn.mro4.dec.com>, pierson@empror.enet.dec.com (dave pierson) writes:
> 
> 	Ahhhhhh, there are such things as DOUBLE AGENTS.  HMSS, heck EVERY
> 	secret service in the world, at one time or another has had the
> 	extreme displeasure of discovering that "one of ours" was one of
> 	_theirs_.  Sometimes at the very top.

	And did they ever find that pesky travel passport for someone
	soon to be "at the very top" ?  Double agents everywhere !

	- Bert 

	  roseberry@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil
From: dran@spectrx.saigon.com (Dran)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Who Runs the Village
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 20:07:47 PST
Organization: SPECTROX SYSTEMS (408)252-1005 Silicon Valley, Ca

        Various people have been posting about who really
runs the village.  Why can't it be the upper echelons of 
the British Government?  After all, in The Chimes of Big
Ben, we see that a recognized employee (No6's superior) is
aiding the village's attempts to fool No6.  How could it
not be the British Gov (or an ally) ? ? ?

         Have a Joyous Year-end Non-Denominational Celebration
        That is Politically Correct and May Syrupy Holiday
        Tidings Rain Down Upon you Like the Four-Inch Hailstones
        Of a Fierce Canadian Winter,
         - ADAM                    [ariggs@walrus.mvhs.edu]  
            'DRAN'                 [dran@spectrx.saigon.com] 
               RIGGS               [szebra!spectrx!dran]     

(I'm going for the most abstruse closing award!  Also, I'll
 be No66.  Remember him?  The admiral in Episode 1...      )

--
dran@spectrx.saigon.com (Dran)
SPECTROX SYSTEMS +1.408.252.1005  Silicon Valley, Ca
From: victor.volkman@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Victor Volkman) 
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: 2 QUESTIONS
Date: 29 Dec 92 10:21:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: HAL 9000, W-NET HQ, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Reply-To: victor.volkman@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Victor Volkman) 

-> Hello Net.  I ask two questions on behalf of a friend of mine,
-> a non-netter McGoohan fan.
->
-> (1)  What was the release date of the film "Kings and Desperate Men"?
-> The net McGoohan filmography asserts that it is 1977, while the
-> Bantam 1993 Video Guide claims that the date is in fact 1989 (which
-> is clearly ludicrous).  Does anyone have the facts?

I have seen it often where movies will be "re-copyrighted" when they are
re-released on video.  Thus you may see things as "Its a Wonderful Life,
copyright 1990".  It may in fact have never been available on video
before 1989.  I would very much like to find a place that carries that
video.  There is currently a lawsuit by the author of that script who
claims that "Diehard" is a direct plot ripoff.

-> (2)  Does anyone in the Chicago area have back issues of the journal
-> "Six of One" that they might be willing to let a new member take a
-> look at?

Well, I'm not local to you, but I have been a happy subscriber for three
years now.  Its the only real source of INFORMATION!
                                                                                                      
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From: thmartin@police.rutgers.edu (Number Three)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: Let's all be numbers, kids.
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:00:15 GMT
Organization: That would be telling.

Number Nine writes:
>Here's a neat idea, or maybe at best cute.
 
>How about regular writers adopt their own numbers a la The Prisoner.

As if you have a choice.  ^_(
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
From: dstein@shell.portal.com (Doug Mr-Science Stein)
Subject: Anyone heard of "The Island?"
Organization: Portal Communications Company
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 21:33:30 GMT

Several years ago I played a game that a friend had for his Apple II called
"The Island" (I think).  It was obviously inspired by The Prisioner, and
managed to capture some of the oppressive wierdness of The Village.  The
game was written in BASIC.

Does anyone else remember this and, if yes, does anyone know if it still
exists (particularly in a PC version)?
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
From: kmrc@ellis.uchicago.edu (Hoosier Red)
Subject: Re: Prisoner fiction writing
Reply-To: kmrc@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 10:36:05 GMT

Hi, there--

A while back, I did a series of rather irreverent parodies
regarding TP.  Namely, they were a Blackadder/Prisoner crossover,
with Edmund Blackadder as a disgraced agent who, in trying to get

ZM73 kicked off MI5, accidentially winds up in the Village himself,
along with Baldrick (Number One-tenth).  I called it "Blackadder
5--the Village years," but I wasn't sure if people would get the
joke.  If folks are interested, I'd be delighted to post them to
this newsgroup.

MAM
Ever careful of stepping on toes
Or treasured TV shows. ..
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From: intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac N. Truder)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: Anyone heard of "The Island?"
Date: 3 Jan 1993 21:54:09 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


 > >Several years ago I played a game that a friend had for his Apple 
 > >"The Island" (I think).  It was obviously inspired by The Prisione
 > >managed to capture some of the oppressive wierdness of The Village
 > >game was written in BASIC.
 > >
 > >Does anyone else remember this and, if yes, does anyone know if it
 > >exists (particularly in a PC version)?
 > 
 > I seem to remember that it was indeed called the Prisoner, and it
 > took place on The Island.  I played it a bit, but it never grabbed
 > my interest enough. I've never heard of it on another platform,
 > but if you've still got the original somewhere, you can use an
 > Apple ][ emulator instead.  I've seen a quite good Apple ][
 > emulator running on a friend's 386 months ago, but I do not recall
 > its name.  Check out comp.emulators.apple.ii (or something like
 > that) for more detail.

I remember there were two games; "The Prisoner", and what I think was
called "Prisoner 2: The Island".  The games were similar to, but not
exactly like, the Prisoner series.  The people who had imprisoned you on
the Island wanted "information" from you.  This information was
symbolized in the game by a number that you were given at the beginning
of the game.  During the course of the game, various people would try
and trick you into giving them the number (thereby giving them the
"information" they want).  I never played the game myself, but this is
what I remember from reviews in Apple magazines at the time.  I don't
know where you would get a copy of it these days.  I'm almost positive
it was never out for any machine other than the Apple ][+ -- mark ye
well, this was before the //e came out!


Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
From: jfu2@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Carlo Graziani)
Subject: 2 questions
Reply-To: jfu2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 23:01:28 GMT


Hello Net.  I ask two questions on behalf of a friend of mine,
a non-netter McGoohan fan.

(1)  What was the release date of the film "Kings and Desperate Men"?
The net McGoohan filmography asserts that it is 1977, while the Bantam
1993 Video Guide claims that the date is in fact 1989 (which is clearly
ludicrous).  Does anyone have the facts?

(2)  Does anyone in the Chicago area have back issues of the journal
"Six of One" that they might be willing to let a new member take a look
at?

Many thanks in advance,
Carlo

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Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: the bicycle & alt. ver. of Chimes...
Organization: none
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:44:44 GMT

In article <BztEG2.481@shyguy.lonestar.org> bmyers@shyguy.lonestar.org (bob myers) writes:
>I've just received for my christmas present the "Alternate version, Chimes
>of Big Ben", and I have a question or two...which could have replies
>posted here or sent to me directly.
>
>At the tail end of the tape, they show/explain the meaning of the 
>bicycle; I seem to be a little on the slow side, or confused if you like,
>about the symbolism.
>
>Can anyone tell me the significance of "POP"?  I can understand the
>possible relavance of what the wheels represent...
>
>thanks
>
>-- 
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>Bob Myers                        | You gotta watch out for those

"POP" is explained in another episode as "Protect Other People". See
any of the books on "The Prisoner" for more details. I like the eyes
watching the Earth near the very ending of the sequence.

I also got this for X-Mas, and it is a nifty addition to anybodys
prisoner collection!

Have A New Year!
Pax
					--Judex--
From: rick.franks@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Rick Franks) 
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: NEW MEMBER
Date: 24 Dec 92 13:12:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: HAL 9000 BBS, (313)663-4173, Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Reply-To: rick.franks@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Rick Franks) 

The folks down here in Myrtle Beach SC, would like to say hello
to you up in W-NET. And would like to inform you'all we are now
cross-linking this confernece with our own BUM_NET network.
Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year...
---
 . Cam-Mail . The Chess Board BBS 803-236-7711 : Myrtle Beach, SC
                                                                               
Newsgroups: alt.tv.melrose-place
From: cornell@inoc.dl.nec.com (C.J.K.)
Subject: Re: Allison
Reply-To: cornell@syl.dl.nec.com
Organization: Not very organized
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 04:28:22 GMT

watnik@fisher.ucdavis.edu (Mitchell Watnik) writes:

>Katie Couric is on the Today show (that's NBC, big guy!).  I think she's
>nothing like Courtney Thorne-Smith;  perhaps you're thinking of Paula Zahn
>(on CBS This Morning), who also has nothing on Courtney?

Thanks for the correction.  No, not Paula Zahn.  Courtney T-S and Katie
C could well be sisters looking at their faces.  Could be mostly the
unique shape of the eyes.

And if you look at the eyes and mouths, Jake (Grant S.) may as well be
Patty Duke's son.
From: watnik@fisher.ucdavis.edu (Mitchell Watnik)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.melrose-place
Subject: Re: Allison
Date: 24 Dec 92 20:22:48 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis

In article <cornell.724635844@vivaldi> cornell@syl.dl.nec.com writes:
>HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
>>  I am 25 years old.
>>  I have a Master's degree.  
>>  I work for a major university as a programmer.
>>  I absolutely DIE for Courtney-Thorne Smith (Alison)!  She's just so damn
>>CUTE!  And how about that velour/velvet dress she was wearing at the Christmas
>>party.  Woof!!!!!!!
(woof is an understatement)
>
>Well, it sounds like you have the appropriate qualifications for your
>statement.  If you want to see Alison more often, watch her identical
>cousin Katie Couric every morning on CBS (I think that's the network)
>at 7:00-9:00 a.m. (U.S./Central Time).

I am going to side with Jimmy on this one!  Courtney Thorne-Smith is, far
and away, the best looking woman on tv today.  My roommate argues that
Josie Bisset (Jane) is better looking, but she's not in Courtney's zip
code as far as looks are concerned!  And brains....  

Katie Couric is on the Today show (that's NBC, big guy!).  I think she's
nothing like Courtney Thorne-Smith;  perhaps you're thinking of Paula Zahn
(on CBS This Morning), who also has nothing on Courtney?

How about a alt.fan.courtney.thorne-smith ???????

Out of curiosity, where was Jane on the Christmas episode?  The doctor
came with another doctor and Jane was nowhere to be found!
============================================================================
--Mitchell            |"The search for perfection is all very well, but
(mrwatnik@ucdavis.edu)| to look for heaven is to live here in hell."--Sting 
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From: s7958246@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Mr. Duality)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Adam's first acting job
Date: 1 Jan 1993 08:53:13 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
NNTP-Posting-Host: titan.ucc.umass.edu

	An interesting note... for a good part of the month of December, Adam
Arkin played Nathan Detroit in the Broadway revival of "Guys And Dolls".
Now while I didn't have the opportunity to see him in it, I can only guess
where thiss will lead to next...

"Call a lawyer and sue me, FleiSCH-man!"

or something to that extent... oh yes, happy new year.

Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
From: george@tessi.com (George Mitchell)
Subject: Re: Adam's first acting job
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 20:08:25 GMT

andy@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Andy Silber) writes:
>My mother remebers a short from about 15 years ago made by Alan Arkin staring two
>of his sons (including are favorite big foot , Adam).
>It involved making a magic potion in the kitchen. One of the kids
>turns into a chicken at the end. Does anyone know the name of this short and
>anyway to get a copy of this?
The story is called "People Soup."  I saw it (printed) in a science fiction
anthology once, but I don't remember the name of the anthology.
-- George Mitchell (george@tessi.com)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
From: rrulli@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Rebecca Rulli)
Subject: Re: Maruice sighting
Summary: _Ghost Dad_
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 20:41:06 GMT

I saw good old Maurice in _Ghost Dad_ with Bill Cosby last nite.  He
played Bill's boss and in his typical role he was very strict.

*smile*

Rebecca


Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
From: bilan@netcom.com (Steve Bilan)
Subject: Re: Maggie's hair
Organization: Netcom
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:30:27 GMT

zmyd02@hou.amoco.com writes:
>
>Janine Turner has a gorgeous face and beautiful skin;  I'm sure I'm not the only woman in America who's run to the bathroom to scrub her face and slap on some beauty product after seeing Janine up close and realizing that MY skin *used* to look that good, and I'm *younger* than she is!

Considering the amount of makeup they need to put on for the TV cameras, we
probably have no idea what here real skin looks like.  You're being flattered
more by her make-up artist than by herself.


> I spend ten minutes in the shower shampooing and conditioning, then a total of twenty minutes blow drying and curling my below-shoulder hair.  That's half an hour spend trying to look like you guys *think* I should

Don't blame us guys.  That peer pressure comes more from other women than
it does from men.  For instance, I don't know of a single guy that thinks
high-heels make a woman look better.

>I really resent guys who say women are *supposed* to have longer hair.  Geez, give me a break.  If you don't like Janine's hair, DON'T WATCH HER.

I wouldn't go so far as to use the phrase 'supposed to', but I have to
admit that I think most women look much better with long hair.  but
straight hair is fine; I've never cared for curly hair.

>Just my $0.02.
>
>Meredith Denton


My $.02 too.




M, BATR..
..Steve Bilan
From: barb@ufycorp.Unify.Com (Barbara Kane)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: NEXP TIDBITS (12/14 EPISODE)
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:54:37 GMT
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization

In article <18678@mindlink.bc.ca> Gordon_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Gordon Wong) writes:
>
>[8] Also, Mike wore his watch on top of a wristband. Does anyone know why?

My father, though not a nut like Mike, is allergic to metals when exposed
for long periods of time (like wearing his wedding ring or a watch) and so
he has to wear a watchband where the watch attaches to the top and doesn't
touch the skin.

Mike's was probably some animal skin (naturally cured, of course) or natural
fibers, keeping the metal watch from touching his skin.


Barbara Kane                                             Unify Corporation
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From: shari@omar.WPI.EDU (Shari Deiana)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Maggie's hair
Date: 23 Dec 1992 19:11:56 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: omar.wpi.edu


I kind of liked her hair, maybe this is the start of a "new" Maggie 
(again?! :-)