HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gorelik@xsoft.xerox.com (Mike Gorelik)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: stih: apologies
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:47:37 GMT
Organization: XSoft, Palo Alto

In article <1992Dec11.160657.23931@watson.ibm.com>, bil@burka..aix.kingston.ibm.com (Igor Belchinskiy) writes:


|> ObjSovokRef.
|> Auto insurance in New York state for new driver 
|> through state plan is more than thousand dollars. Insurance for experienced
|> drivers is much cheaper but insurance companies do not accept 
|> international licencies as proof of experience. Explanation - 
|> the law was changed after "too many soviet jews with false licencies
|> came to New York".
I cannot comment about "too many soviet jews with false licencies", (what about
soviet russians? Do they have the real thing?). Did this factoid come 
from Vulis files?

A friend who is an agent with a large auto insurer here in California 
informs me that it is a company policy to
consider an international license as proof of experience only for countries 
where the said insurer has affiliates. For that insurer it 
pretty much illuminates all countries but Mexico, Western Europe, and Japan. 
Your mileage with other companies in other states may, and will, vary.

|> >-- 
|> 	-igor

-- 
-----
mike gorelik			

I like my potatoe genetically engineered.
-----
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From: viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: RUSSIAN and FINNISH patriots (Was: Estonia 15)
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:20:47 EST
Organization: Midwest Rat's Hole

In article <1992Dec15.143047.10528@jyu.fi>, ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti) writes:
> thietaniemi@cc.helsinki.fi wrote:
> : In article <12054@sorley.ed.ac.uk>, alexei@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Alexei Moiseyev) 
> : writes:
> : > 
> : > I would visit Finland, but I fear I might run into somebody like
> : > Vorlund, who having identified me by my "Russian appearence" might
> : > feel like celebrating again.
> 
> If you run a person like Vorlund he is probably a drunken person in Finland.

  Thus he looks like a real Finn :-)

> Mr. Vorlund certainly expresses certain sentiments certain finns have
> but, please, do not generalize.

  Nobody cares which Finiks which sentiments have. What is more
important is that among 5 Finiks participating on this list
there are at least 3 complete idiots, one self-admitted liar,
and the one which is still deciding which sex does _it_ have.
Since some Finiks could combine some of these features,
it leaves a room for Jarmo to fill in the vacancy left
for a more or less decent personality. I'm personally inviting
him to do so.

> Finland is quite a safe place to visit
> for a russian person.  (Russia is not so easy for a finn, I am afraid...)
> Your looks certainly does not differ from a finn.
> 
> And I mean that "looking like a finn" need not to be something worth of.

  Certainly :-)

Serega & Co
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti)
Subject: Re: Estonian Russian-speakers
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:10:46 GMT

Erland Sommarskog (sommar@enea.se) wrote:
: Sergei Viznyuk (viznyuk@physics.ucla.edu) writes:
: 
: >When half of the population didn't have the right to vote ?
: 
: Don't lie, Viznuyk. The reasonable number is 30-35%, not 50%.

Do not be angry for Serega, because he allows prgressivly
the children to vote too.

In non-democratic countries only over 18 year olds can vote.

We are a bit old-timers in that sence compared to Serega.
 
: You are mistaken. Ru"u"ttel did indeed get more votes than
: anyone else, but he did not get a majority. And as Rein 
: Taagepera, who ended up as #3 in the elections on 24% after 
: Meri (29%), was very much against Ru"u"ttel, it is not un-
: likely that Meri would have been the people's choice too.

No votes for Ryyti? 
regards,
jarmo ryyti
From: verbit@birkhoff.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: apologies
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:27:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Dec15.182706.18542
Organization: Sozialistische Patienten Kollektiv


I would like to apologize before innocent people whom I
unreasonably called idiots in the following posting.:

|> 	I cannot disagree there as well - in fact *all* of jokes
|> 	being posted here lack this excluding (a) a brilliant joke
|> 	by Yu. Smirnov about three cowboys Bill, Dgo and Verbitsky
|> 	and (b) some of jokes by STCL@MUSICC.CC.UGA.EDU
|> 	(one about 100 portions of ice-cream and one about
|> 	tomato juice). All others are stupid, stale and
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> 	do not belong to soc.culture.soviet. I guess we
|> 	need to start alt.jokes.vulis or alt.jokes.soviet
|> 	(as alt.jokes.stupid exists already) and dump
|> 	all jokeposting idiots starting with Vulis
|> 	and Lipshits there.
|>
|> 	Misha.

I got the mail from Michael Martynov who claimed that
his nice, old jokes were not stupid and that I have
no right to call him an idiot. I apologized and
there I post the apologies:

-------- LETTER -----------------

I am sorry, you are right. I have no right to call
you names. I did not call idiot personally you,
though. Some jokes from you
were not bad, but I knew them, and most of jokes
are being posted and reposted through eternity
by people who did not read news a year ago to
learn that they were being posted. I preferred
that someone compiled all incoming jokes and
posted the list, say, weekly. Otherwise it's
only the illustration that the news are going
in circles, which is what I am fighting with.

BTW, it's difficult to disagree that Lipshits
and Vulis are worse kinds of jerks possible.

Misha.

P. S. I'll post it through the net as the apology.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: LANDSBERG@sbhep2.phy.sunysb.edu (Greg Landsberg)
Subject: Re: stih
Organization: SUNY at Stony Brook
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:16:53 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <NIKOLAY.92Dec10180428@husc10.harvard.edu> nikolay@husc10.harvard.edu writes:

> bil@burka..aix.kingston.ibm.com (Igor Belchinskiy) writes:
> 
> > In article <NIKOLAY.92Dec9030430@husc10.harvard.edu> 
> nikolay@husc10.harvard.edu (Philip Nikolayev) writes:
> 
> >>bil@burka..aix.kingston.ibm.com (Igor Belchinskiy) writes:
> 

[3 rifmopletstva sterti]

Hey, guys! May be  you could further  explore this  topic in private mails?
Thanks in advance!

Greg
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: LANDSBERG@sbhep2.phy.sunysb.edu (Greg Landsberg)
Subject: Re: 'almost idiot'
Organization: SUNY at Stony Brook
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 04:20:03 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1992Dec17.114331.1@jaguar.uofs.edu> mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu writes:

> In article <BzDFwA.45n@max.physics.sunysb.edu>, LANDSBERG@sbhep2.phy.sunysb.edu (Greg Landsberg) writes:
> 
> > In <1992Dec16.102230.1@jaguar.uofs.edu> mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu writes:
> >> Misha, ili prosto Genii.
> 
> > I'm afraid that the rest of the world would consider you as ``pochti genii,
> > '' at least I will :-).
> > ...
> > Greg
> 
> That's your right to consider me whatever you want, but
> 1) don't speak for the rest of the world, and
> 2) don't think that your opinion is ultimately correct.
> 
> Michael Martynov.
> 
> P.S. I still like your sense of humor!
> P.P.S. It doesn't mean that I agree with you.

Well, don't take it personally! Just kidding as usual. Sorry, can't
resist...

Cheers,

Greg
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: acs_anshakov@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: RENAME ?!!
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:42:22 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls


HI, PEOPLE !!

I AGREE WITH EVERYONE WHO THINKS THAT IT IS TIME TO RENAME
THIS NEWSGROUP. SOVIET UNION DISAPPEARED MORE THAN A YEAR 
AGO AND WE STILL HAVE THIS NAME WHICH BECAME HISTORY.
WE CAN ARGUE ABOUT FUTURE NAME OF THIS GROUP, BUT PRESENT 
NAME DOES MAKE ANY SENSE.
PLEASE, LET'S THINK ABOUT IT.

REGARDS,

IGOR
V GLUSHI WISKONSII
From: mam18@finch.cs.uofs.edu (Michael A Martinov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: How Finns see Russia
Date: 18 Dec 92 23:43:56 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing Sciences

In article <1992Dec18.063756.13854@jyu.fi>, ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti) writes:
 
|> If I was/am against Soviet/Russian socio-economic system it does not mean
|> that I do not accept russian individuals, and I think this is valid
|> for quite many other people too.
|> 

Jarmo, ty menia uvazhaesh'?

Well, all right, I'm going to be serious.  You point reminds me 
Soviet antisemitism (sorry, guys, that I pulled out this word
again...).  I knew a lot of people, who beleived that Jews is
world-wide evil, but "there are some individuals..."  The amasing
thing was, that they didn't know any "bad Jew" personally, on the
contrary, every Jew, whom they knew, was a nice guy.  So, what was
the reason to  hate them?  I still don't know.

Doesn't it look exactly in the same way, you think of Russians?
 
|> regards,
|> jarmo

====================================================================
I   Michael Martynov,		I "Laugh is the best international I
I   University of Scranton	I  language..."			   I
I   Comp.Sci. department	I              (I don't actually   I
I   e-mail address:		I               remember who said  I
I   mam18@jaguar.ucs.uofs.edu	I               it...)		   I
I   mam18@canary.cs.uofs.edu	I				   I
====================================================================
From: mam18@starling.cs.uofs.edu (Michael A Martinov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: RELAX: Evreyskii anekdot
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:52:30 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing Sciences

I wonder why people have to post the same stuff 5 times in a row?
There should be some reason, but I don't get it.  Ple-e-ease,
explain!!!


====================================================================
I   Michael Martynov,		I "Laugh is the best international I
I   University of Scranton	I  language..."			   I
I   Comp.Sci. department	I              (I don't actually   I
I   e-mail address:		I               remember who said  I
I   mam18@jaguar.ucs.uofs.edu	I               it...)		   I
I   mam18@canary.cs.uofs.edu	I				   I
====================================================================
From: opaloneva@abo.fi (Olli-Jukka Paloneva)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: How to avoid panslavism and toilets in Finland
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:01:45 GMT
     <15034.2b277ddb@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>
     <15036.2b277ff8@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Organization: Turku School of Economics
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

In article <Bz23MC.I5p@cs.columbia.edu> Igor Pankevich,
igor@cs.columbia.edu writes:
>> Your word for a Finn is more polite than ours for a Russian.
>
>And you are proud of it? Good for you!
>
>--Igor P.

That was a compliment for the weaker and/or civilised participant.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: alexei@cartan.math.nd.edu (Alex Strouwe)
Subject: Re: Boris Grebenschikov
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 22:56:44 GMT

I am glad to know that people on the net have the same music preferences as 
mine. Old Aquarium was really great. I still remember one of his concerts
back in the 80's.

The new Greben's band (I think it is called B.G. and His Friends) sounds 
terrible. There is even nothing to do with musical proficiency. Last year 
when I saw it's performance I was nearly falling asleep. None of the songs they 
played was significantly different from another. The bass player (I don't 
remember his name. Of course, it wasn't A.Titov) seemed like he's never played
the instrument before. Tickets were unreasonably overpriced and one of my 
friends parodied one of B.G. songs:

   Po ... rubley bilety
   Vezde i vsyudu est',
   No komu ot etogo radost'?
   Komu ot etogo chest'?

   Pogriazshii v sobstvennoi krasote
   Igraesh' snobam rock'n'roll.
   A ya govoryu, chto ya vizhu --
   B.G. - Kozel.

Indeed, my opinion is based only on that concert. It was in one of the  
provincial cities (though that is not an excuse). Maybe, I just was at a bad  
luck. 

Does anybody have an opposite opinion about the new B.G. band?

Alex

P.S. Many thanks to Mikhail Verbitsky for his postings on the subject.

--

When I tell any Truth it is not for the sake of convincing those
who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those who do.
         
	                           WILLIAM BLAKE Public Address
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
From: thietaniemi@cc.helsinki.fi
Subject: Re: Alexei, you ignore the democratic EUROPEAN institutions!
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:44:05 GMT

In article <15078.2b2b2166@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>, viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
> In article <1992Dec13.125944.1@cc.helsinki.fi>, thietaniemi@cc.helsinki.fi writes:
>> 
>> According to my opinion (and this view is shared by many Europeans)
>> exactly these organizations should meadiate in political skirmishes and
>> evaluate the achievements in the fields of democracy and human
>> rights.
>> 
>> Alexei, on which side are you? Do you accept the positive role
>> of these institutions in Eastern Europe or do you agree with
>> your "comrade" Viznyuk, who called the Council of Europe "bullshit"?
>> (I can quote his previous postings, if you do not believe that
>> this is his real opinion. Personally, I ended my discussion with
>> Mr Viznyuk when he uttered his opinions on the Council of Europe).
> 
>   your pleasure, Mr.Thietaniemi. If you like that my opinion,
> I could repeat it: Council of Europe is bullshit ! 


No more questions, your honor.

Tapani Hietaniemi

(Most odd. They are voluntarily giving themselves a bad name... :-)
From: J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: ANECDOTES -- Brezhnev
Date: 13 Dec 92 15:27:29 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

Brezhnev khotel kul't lichnosti, kak byla pri Staline -- no u Brezhneva
ne bylo lichnosti.

--Ted Schuerzinger
email: .zed@Dartmouth.EDU
"I should have realized it would be bad vodka when all the label said
was 'Russian Vodka'."
From: simon1@bass.bu.edu (Simon Streltsov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Computer Science in Moscow
Date: 11 Dec 92 16:54:39 GMT
Reply-To: simon1@bass.bu.edu (Simon Streltsov)
Followup-To: soc.culture.soviet
Organization: Boston University

In article <11320@prijat.cs.uofs.edu> mam18@starling.cs.uofs.edu (Michael A Martinov) writes:

>After Moscow Institute of Oil and Gas of cause (Kerosinka), whose C.S. department was
>commonly reffered as Jewish Mech-Math...
Sorry for correcting you again, 
but we in Kerosinka were not some CS department, but
PM (applied math)
>
>Michael Martynov.
Senya
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From: mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: RUSSIANS and FINNISH patriots (Was: Estonia 15)
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:21:18 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.soviet
Organization: University of Scranton

In article <1992Dec16.082845.25475@polaris.utu.fi>, opaloneva@abo.fi (Olli-Jukka Paloneva) writes:
> In article <15119.2b2e684f@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> ,
> viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>>  [stuff deleted...]
> 
> I think that this kind of language does not belong to
> a respected representative of Russian intelligentsija -
> it must be a comrade lost its identity.
> 
> Mr. Olli-Jukka Paloneva


It looks like we've got another dude, who sends three identical messages
in a raw.

BTW, why he doesn't like the language of that "chainik" from Ohio, or why
he thinks of that asshole as "representative of Russian intelligentsija?"

Michael Martynov.
From: muh@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Yury M. Mukharsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: RELAX: Evreyskii anekdot
Date: 15 Dec 1992 01:24:22 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Dec15.000441.21880@mail.cornell.edu> Mark Lipsits <ml12@cornell.edu> writes:
Nothing, since he can not overcome his System 7. 

Install System 6, dude! Do not live above your level.

Yury M.
From: stephan@cis.rand.org (Stephan DeSpiegeleire)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Boris Grebenschikov
Date: 17 Dec 92 12:30:02 GMT
Reply-To: stephan@cis.rand.org (Stephan DeSpiegeleire)
Organization: RAND, Santa Monica CA

In article <1992Dec16.201024.584@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu> svlissia@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu writes:
>[...] the last release of BG [...] "The history of Aquarium, vol.  III ".
Do you mean this is available on CD?  And if  so,  where  can  I  find  it
(retail chain, mailorder,...)?  Are there any other GB or Akvarium CDs (or
tapes) for sale - except for the English one, which sounded a  little  too
Eurythmics-y to me anyway?  I have been looking for them for quite a while
here in LA, but have never seen any.  I seem  to  remember  that  at  some
point  some  British company put out a 'Red Rock' compilation album or so,
but I never saw that one on the  shelves  either.  And  did  anybody  ever
submit  any Russian lyrics to any Newsgroup?  How about other groups (like
DDT or so)?

>"Uvy"(sorry,   I   really   don't   know   how   to    translate    this.
>"Unfortunately"???- It does not sound good).
How 'bout 'Alas'?

Many thanks to anybody who can respond to me through email (Internet:
Stephan@monty.rand.org).  If I get any valuable info, I'll summarize it and
post it.

Stephan De Spiegeleire
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: Olli-Jukka Paloneva <opaloneva@abo.fi>
Subject: Is Russian vodka bad?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7596548A20204C1@luokkapolku.utu.fi>
X-Xxdate: Sat, 19 Dec 92 23:48:24 GMT
Organization: Turku School of Economics and Business Adm
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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 21:44:22 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.141338.20327@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> J. Theodore
Schuerzinger, J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu writes:
>"I should have known it would be bad vodka when all the label said was
>'Russian Vodka'."

JTS's slogan above.

I think that best vodka of the world was pshenizhnaja, when
it's quality was controlled in the good old days. Instead of
grain it was distilled from wheat. It was something like
Bacardi!

I would like to hear why on earth somebody thinks that Russian
vodka is bad?

Also I am interested to hear can anybody name better Russian
vodka than pshenizhnaja?

-olli-

"Vsjo moshet byt, vsjo moshet stat - zhena ot musha otkazhatsja,
 no bez pjiti ne moshet byt"
From: willemsdawnm@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: wedding customs?
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:46:12 CST
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

I am currently doing a paper for one of my classes on wedding customs of
different societies.  I would appreciate any information anyone can provide for
me.
Please send info to willemsdawnm.bvc.edu

Thanks tons
dawn
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
From: ilyess@ECE.Concordia.CA (Ilyess Bdira)
Subject: Re: Fundamentalism just stinks like KGB overbaked agent..
Organization: ECE - Concordia University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:33:46 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.053648.20563@wam.umd.edu> endevour@wam.umd.edu (Afghan) writes:
>>
>>I am not impressed nor scared.. It is just that Afghanistan group
>>is among 30 groups that I scan everyday 
>
>Yea I know you read a lot of news groups. In fact I have read some of
>your posting in one of them ? but tell me, why in one of those news 
>groups you sign your name as Sex Wizard ?????? Naughty , naughty... :-) 

Lest somebody take this seriously, this is a lie and I can sue you for this..
If you continue in this path, I will have a copy of all of your posts and
I will see you in court..  I can use the money you know, how much are you
worth? Actually I might donate it to Gulbiddin just to piss you off.

This is the only group where I have been slandered and subjected to
such lies, It only shows how rotten the situation in Afghanistan is.

I had many disagreements with the Afghanistan Islamists about their
insistence on restricting freedom of speech and banning atheist and
communist parties, but after I got a taste of what they are faced with,
I  kind of understand their position....

Still I think you are a minority, so one cannot put everybody in Jail
because there are some psychopathic killers around.. I am still for 
freedom of speech, people will eventually know what is good and what is
wrong, especially if it has a foul odor.

I will not contribute to this group anymore, but I will keep an eye on
it to see if there are anymore attacks or lies on my person and keep a
record of them.


Good bye..

=============================================================
Modified Murphy's first law of realistic probability:
If it can happen, it will happen...
Unless of course "it" is a good thing.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: News from Afghanistan
From: yea027@marshall.wvnet.edu
Date: 10 Dec 92 15:11:38 -0500
Organization: Marshall University


AFGHANISTAN
At least 1,200 members are to be chosen for the shura that will
nominate the next president of Afghanistan for 18 months. The shura
is to be completed by December 10 to be able to convene on
December 15, the date on which the term of Ustad Burhanuddin Rabbani
as president ends.
There has been fighting in some parts of Kabul, however, between
members of the Hizb-e Wahdat and forces loyal to Ahmed Shah Masoud,
the defence minister. At least 30 people were reported killed
in three days of fighting that started on December 4.
The immediate cause of the fighting was not clear since both the
Jami'at-e Islami to which Ahmed Shah Masoud belongs, and the
Hizb-e Wahdat, are part of the coalition government. It was however,
speculated that some mujahideen groups had complained that the
Jami'at was involved in vote-buying before the election of
of the president while the Hizb-e Wahdat had demanded more seats
in the government.
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