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From: leeper@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Mark R. Leeper)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: The Forbidden Zone.--What is it?
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:28:03 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr7.172553.10927@Csli.Stanford.EDU> jwishnie@roadkill.Stanford.EDU (Jeff Wishnie) writes:
> I don't remember this movie. Anyone have a quick plot summary?

A plot description cannot very well convey this film to you.  It is an
exercise in sytle and weirdness as well as a frame to show off the
talents of The Mystic Knights of the Oingo Boingo.  The Hercules family
has in their basement a doorway into the Sixth Dimension.  Now this is
less surprising than it sounds because if any family would have a
doorway into the Sixth Dimension, it would be the Hercules family.  Old
men play the children in the family and just about everything you see
is an assault on your expectations and taste.  One by one the members
of the family fall into the Sixth Dimension, ruled over by the Midget
King (played by Herve Villechaize) and his gross consort played by
Susan Tyrrell.  The film is in black and white and borrows from the
cartoon style of Max Fleischer as much as from anything.  Oingo Boingo
was, I guess, sort of a family band of the Elfman family.  Richard
Elfman directs the film.  Marie-Pascale Elfman plays the main
character, the daughter in the Hercules family who went to France to
study and returned French.  Danny Elfman shows up as the Devil.  I like
the film a fair amount, but I have found few people who do.  Nor can I
figure out why the heck I like it.  After hearing the album I couldn't
figure how any film could connect these songs.  When I finally saw the
film the music sounded like the most prosaic aspect of the film.

				Mark Leeper
				...att!mtgzy!leeper
				(908)957-5619
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: dascoser.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Subject: Re: Request For Godzilla Info (Jet Jaguar)
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 01:31:46 GMT

lightnin@penny.WPI.EDU (...And it Hardly Ever Blows Up Anymore) writes:

> On 1 Apr 92 00:41:52 GMT, dave@blackbox.cc.columbia.edu (David Milner) said:
> 
> dave> Well, about the only things we saw Jet Jaguar do is grow to be
> dave> 50 meters tall, fly, use some sort of enhanced vision to search
> dave> for Megalon underground, and perform a few karate chops.
> 
> Don't forget that he knows semafore signalling.  (At least, I assume that tha
> is how he talked to Godzilla and Megalon).

Yeah, but how do THEY know it?


Dascoser
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (K. Khan)
Subject: Re: "North by Northwest" - Why the title?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:03:51 GMT


In article <1992Apr13.124622.11034@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de> dfi@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Daniel Fischer) writes:
>Having just seen Hitchcock's brilliant 'North by Northwest' again, I still
>can't figure out what this title means. Where's the connection to the plot?

It's a pun. You'll notice that the plane they take is a NORTHWEST
Orient, and they travel NORTH by way of that plane... ;-)
From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Alien III vx. The Return of Batman
Date: 4 Apr 92 16:57:10 GMT
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept,. Athens

>lev> Whoa... I missed that one!  But how's it get into the coldsleep
>lev> chambers?

It wouldn't have to. Just hole up somewhere and wait. That's what they 
seem to do best ( aside from killing people, that is ).


-- 
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*    bob church                             *
*    bchurch.oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu           *
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From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Alien III vx. The Return of Batman
Date: 4 Apr 92 16:36:18 GMT
Organization: Ohio University School of Art,. Athens

In article <29MAR92.02072321@sklib.usask.ca> goddard@sklib.usask.ca writes:
>Howie writes:

>the world are they going to explain Alien III?  In II, the
>Alien planet blew up.  The Alien Mother was killed, all the
>eggs destroyed.  If they say an embryo is in the child Sigourney
>Weaver rescued, I refuse to go.  I wish they would leave well

Don't forget the sly smile that the alien gave to the cat in the
first movie. Time released eggs or somesuch? Besides, the aliens
didn't originate on the planet where the movies were based. They
caused an ancient ship to crash land there, remember.
The alien implantation bit could make for a great return premise 
in an E.T. sequel. We'd have to get Roger Corman to do it instead
of Disney though :-).

Bob Church
bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
 
-- 
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*    bob church                             *
*    bchurch.oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu           *
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From: fenick1@husc8.harvard.edu (Sharon Fenick)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: movie title wanted
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:10:40 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <7APR199215283088@trentu.ca> tsu@trentu.ca (Trent Student Union) writes:
>

[nothing deleted]

are you just generally looking for a movie title?
do you want the title of a movie already out there, or
do you have a just filmed movie that you want us to name?

sharon
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: be126@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bob Powers)
Subject: Over 30? Liked Spinal Tap? READ!
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 00:21:52 GMT


There is a gem of a movie called "Spirit of '76" directed by
Rob Reiner (Spinal Tap, etc) that stars David Cassidy, Leif
Garret (As Eddie Trojan), and tons of eculturally embarrassing
memorabilia....

...if you thought the s 70's were funny, you'll like this 
movie! Or for those of you who don't remember the 70's,
this will remind you BIG TIME!

Definitely destined to be a cult classic....
From: jsmith@abcl.co.uk (James G Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Akira:deepest animated movie out.
Date: 7 Apr 92 09:04:43 GMT
Organization: EO Computer Limited, Cambridge, UK

tatum@currituck.cs.unc.edu (Thomas Tatum) writes:
: If anyone out there see's the movie AKIRA in video stores, rent it and
: watch it.  It has to be one of the best animated movies ever made.  I
: have been subscribed to this newsgroup for about a month and haven't
: seen anyone talk about it, so I decided to enlighten you.

The video is available to buy in the UK (and I assume elsewhere as
well).  I have never seen a video-store stock it. The video-stores
over here tend to stock only the main-line stuff for 2hours mindless
viewing (i.e. there seems to be only a single sub-titled copy of
Nikita available in Cambridge, out of about 10 stores).

: Upon the first watching you will miss some of the plot.  Since it is 
: translated from Japanese, it is hard to keep the full effect of the
: japaneese launguage meanings of words with the correct english
: translations.  But I recommed watching it at least 4 or five times.  I
: think once you do watch it and give it a chance you will watch it over
: and over.

There is a dubbed version and a subtitled version available. Dubbing
in my opinion is always bad, and spoils the film for me (perfect
example being the silly voice they chose for "Fred" (Lambert) in
Subway). In this case it seems that different people performed the
translations. With the "subtitled" version I have, they also gave a
"free" tape of a program about the making of Akira. The film clips in
the program use the American dubbed version, and the "text" is totally
different from the subtitled version. The subtitled version may be
closer to the original Japanese, it even has some nice translation
quirks... where the text is English, but the grammar is Japanese.

: From rumurs I have heard it won the Japanese equivelent of the Oscar
: over there.  And if you really want to get into the whole AKIRA
: legend, there is an epic written that the movie is based on.  There
: are some ausome comic series that are out and will blow you away.

I have seen the comics, but not read them. There is a nice line in
Akira tee-shirts available though.

: 2)  At the end of the movie, after every thing is over, you hear this
: voice say, "I am tetsuo!" and these wild colors.  Was he supposed to
: be the hero?  I hope not

If you look closely, some of the colourful shapes resemble galaxies. I
took the ending to mean that he has become part of the Universe or
more likely a new universe. i.e. he has moved on from being a physical
entity. I don't think that he was meant to be the hero.

: Thanks in advance
: 
: Thomas Tatum
: tatum@cs.unc.edu
: "K-Mart Sucks" -- Raymond Babbit

-- Jamie
James G. Smith : Phone +44-223-843131
From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The fox so cunning and free)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: into the realm of the senses
Date: 8 Apr 92 07:22:39 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Apr8.002350.17673@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v122jr52@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Thomas H Dunning) writes...

}In article <1992Apr4.082435.5401@engage.pko.dec.com>, boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The fox so cunning and free) writes...

}} Oshima made another film titled (in English) EMPIRE OF PASSION, and people
}} seem to think it's another alternate title of IN THE REALM OF THE SENSES,
}} but that's not the case.

}} The French title os L'EMPIRE DES SENS (from which comes the alternate
}} English title EMPIRE OF THE SENSES

} So is this other movie EMPIRE OF THE SENSES any different from his previous 
} release?

Hunh?  I thought I was clear.

EMPIRE OF THE SENSES is just a different title for IN THE REALM OF THE SENSES.

EMPIRE OF PASSION is a different film. It contains much of the same type of
material, but it's still a different film.

} I've always had a sneaking suspicion that IN THE REALM OF THE SENSES was 
} really just a snuff film promoted as ant art film to get by U.S. customs.
} Anybody know anything one way or the other on this?

Yes, you're suspicion is wrong. Oshima is a fairly notable director, and
his films *are* considered "art". That he deals with sex and violence in
an explicit manner is another thing entirely. The way I see it, he doesn't
see sex and violence as something to be hidden, and feels that it deserves
as explicit a treatment in film as any other subject.

The same general subject matter as IN THE REALM OF THE SENSES was dealt
with -- in a less explicit manner, but frankly nonetheless -- in another
Japanese film from around the same time. It was titled VENGEANCE IS MINE,
and was by another notable Japanese filmmaker, Shohei Imamura (who has
been praised for his more recent film BLACK RAIN (the "other" BLACK RAIN,
not the Ridley Scott film).

-- 

	"Buster, this trip downriver has been truly special.
	 Downright Twainian in a Hitchcockian sort of way."


--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The fox so cunning and free)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: DUNE (Re: Blue Velvet)
Date: 8 Apr 92 11:09:21 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <8028@sun13.scri.fsu.edu>, dekorte@next2.scri.fsu.edu (Stephen Dekorte) writes...

} And I loved it. Fascinating setting and plot. And based on one what is
} probly the only self consistant(in terms of technology) far-future
} sci-fi series. What didn't you like about it?

Stupidity. Bad script. Some terrible acting (what good actors that were
in it were wasted -- even Max Von Sydow couldn't do anything with such
weak material). Radical changes in concepts from Herbert's book to no
purpose.

(And I feel obliged to point out that I'm a diehard David Lynch fan. I
would think of DUNE as "Lynch's Folly", except that several sources have
said he never really had a lot of control over the film.)

The only real thing the movie had going for it was strong visuals. They
weren't enough.

}}} I thought it was an ambitious attempt at Herbert's book. I mean, let's
}}} face it, the book is unfilmable.

}} Nonsense. The restored version of LAWRENCE OF ARABIA is an outstanding
}} film version of DUNE (in a clever plastic disguise).

} Nonsense.

I've already said my piece on this.

-- 

	"Buster, this trip downriver has been truly special.
	 Downright Twainian in a Hitchcockian sort of way."


--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
From: bigk@cs.uq.oz.au (Kathy Williamson)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Richard Kern/Tura Satana
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:35:19 GMT
Reply-To: bigk@cs.uq.oz.au



Regarding other films that Tura Satana has been in . . . I read
somewhere that she played Suzette Wong in Billy Wilder's Irma La
Douce.  Her only other films are:
Faster Pussycat, Kill! Kill!
The Astro-Zombies
The Doll Squad

A friend of mine visited the big bad city of Melbourne and secured
a copy of a video showing short films by Richard Kern and Nick Zed.
As Chris said, Richard Kern's short films are really questionable, 
in that I don't understand why people like Lydia Lunch, Foetus and
Henry Rollins etc. want to appear in sado-masochistic laughable
porn.  Don't get me wrong, some of these films were very clever and
very shocking and very amusing, but equally some of them were just
plain stupid, and repulsive.  However, my favourite was definitely
THE BOGUS MAN!!!

Nick Zed's short films were very similar in style to Rick Kern's, 
though he tended to be more political.  One of his films was about
the police beating up people while in custody on supposed drug
offences.  This film featured Rockets Redglare who I have recently
seen in Jim Jarmusch's STRANGER THAN PARADISE, and who I believe
was the last person to see Sid Vicious alive.  (Am I confusing fact
and film here?)

As a postscript, this video also had an "educational" film about a
new wonder druge used by dentists (1970s?) which caused the patient
to forget the pain they experienced while in the chair.  It was the
most excrutiating film because we had to sit through half an hour of
watching a man have all of his rotten teeth pulled out.  Has anyone
else seen some interesting educational films?


Kathleen (bigk@cs.uq.oz.au)


Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.sf.movies
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (K. Khan)
Subject: Re: T2 is *so* full of holes - Here's another one!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:13:25 GMT


In article <domalley.703358611@unix1.tcd.ie> domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast            (alias Daniel O'Malley)) writes:
>
>I just noticed: when the T1000 arrives in Los Angeles in
>1995, he is buck naked. So he nicks a set of clothes from a passing
>police officer. Therefore, the clothes are not part of the T1000 itself,
>but real fabric. However, later scenes in the film have T1000 being
>shot, and the uniform miraculously reforming over the bullet-holes.
>[...]
>The upshot of all this is: the T1000 did *not* need to steal a set of
>clothes, as he could just 'morph' into any outfit he chose.
>Also, since he puts on a _real_ set of clothes in the opening scene,
>what happens to them? At what point does he change into his
>mimetic-poly-alloy suit??

How about this:

We know that in order to time travel, the T1000 must have been
surrounded by living tissue. Thus, the "buck naked" arrival was the
necessary living skin, which of course he no longer needs. While in the
process of ditching the skin, he is interrupted by the police officer,
whom he promptly kills. Judging rightly that the uniform worn by the
officer will offer appropriate camoflage (especially since he's going to
be driving around in a police vehicle), he samples the uniform, and morphs
up an exact duplicate. Thus, he is "wearing" the morphed cop uniform
right from the beginning, not a stolen cop uniform.

As I recall, we don't actually SEE T1000 don the cop's uniform, so the
above fits the observed facts.
From: micbrian@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (MAD MAX - THE ROAD WARRIOR)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Bride of Re-Animator
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:46:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


Caught this movie the other night on HBO...

It's been probably 4 years since I saw the first one, so I had forgotten a lot
of stuff.  The bit with Dr. Carl Hill I had not forgotten.

I thought Frankenhooker was a messed up movie.  This flick was just plain
bizarre.  I liked it a lot, but there was a lot of strange stuff in it
(ie. dog with human arm).

I'd like to see more of these modern horror flicks with a gothic feel to them.

Brian
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: sasso@flounder.phy.anl.gov (John F. Sasso)
Subject: Re: Time Bandits
Keywords: Still looking for The Map
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 18:00:14 GMT

In article <19902@castle.ed.ac.uk> bob@castle.ed.ac.uk (Bob Gray) writes:
>parkhugj@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Gregory J Parkhurst) writes:
>>smoke-filled bedroom, someone stomps over a little scene made of lego and
>>miniatures set up on the floor which MIGHT represent the final battle in the  
>>Fortress of Ultimate Darkness (?).  If that's what it is, it adds nicely to the  
>
>Of course that's what it is.
>
>Have a closer look. Things representing Sherwood forrest,
>and Napoleon Bonaparte, at least, are lying about too.
>	Bob.

Right at the beginning a knight on horseback charges into his room, and
leaves.  He walks over to the wall and looks at one of his multitudinous
pictures, one that remarkably resembles the knight!



-- 
"Elvis is Ted, and Ted is the False Bob," the Elvis Lectures
"But who is Ted?  Ted is the Shaman to the Stars, the Master of MauMau,
and a general SwellGuy."  the Book of False Bobs
"Points are bad. Winning is bad. The only way to win is to lose."BookofMauMau
From: bahn@edit.mndly.umn.edu (Christopher Bahn)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Naked Lunch Lip-Synch
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:38:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: edit.bahn.61
Organization: the Minnesota Daily (U of MN Student Newspaper)

This might be a spoiler, so read at your own risk.


Does anybody happen to know what was REALLY said in the scene where Bill Lee'
s friend starts speaking out of synch with the way his lips are moving? Thje 
character, whose name I forget, insists that there is some kind of a "secret 
message" hidden in the words his lips are forming.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: Arnies arm ripped off (T2)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 15:14:58 GMT

g89m1226@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR BK MURPHY) writes:

>The whole point of destroying both terminators, (and the arm from the T1 
>terminator, Arnies' predesessor) was so as the technology couldn't fall into 
>the wrong hands to be analysed.
>However, didn't Arnie tear off his one arm when he was caught in the giant 
>cog-wheel. That arm was not recovered, nor destroyed.

In the novel (and, I think, an earlier version of the screenplay), John
and Sarah go back afterwards and toss in the arm.  Presumably, this part
was eventually tossed in the final cut because Cameron (correctly)
assumed that the scene would be more dramatically effective if he ended
it right after Arnie's "death."

However, just because we don't actually see John and Sarah toss in the
arm doesn't mean they didn't do it.  We can safely assume they went back
for it later.


                                        --Steve Stelter
                                          sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: cn09+@andrew.cmu.edu (Christopher Kalevi Nuuja)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Straight To Hell
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:15:46 GMT
Organization: Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Smugly wierd, but not as terribly as  "Meet the Hollowheads".  Some big
Hollywood producers musta been at a party, and decided "hey, we got a weekend
to kill, lets make a Cult Movie!!.  Probably more fun to make than watch
Redeeming points:   Jim Jarmush makes a token apperance as Mr. Big or
                    whatever in the white limo at the end.  His limo
                    driver was the funniest person in the movie

                    Courtney Love (of the band "Hole", and also on the
                      cover of this month's "Sassy".  No, I don't have a
                    subscription.  I read it on the toilet at friend's
                    houses) plays the pregnant woman.  Her band just got signed
                    to Geffen, and she married Kurt Kobain of Nirvana.
                        How punk rock camelot.
Unredeeming points:     The Pogues do parts of soundtrack, and some members
                        appear in parts.
                        The Dennis Hopper/Grace Jones appearance is about
                        as cameo as it gets.
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Subject: Re: aka???
From: robynn1@hotspur.gac.edu (Robyn Ness)
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:56:08 -0600

In article <45321@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>  writes:
> }> ..|>Phil aka just seeing what I can start
> }> ..|Jester aka just exactly what are we trying to start???????
> }> ..Jos aka Got No Idea, But I Think I Like It! *GORN*!
> }> Dan aka You're just saying that.
> }azeena @$! nope we really do maybe!!
> Jester aka I am totally lost, Phil come in again........
Robyn @#& Poor baby, but Phil can't help you.  Trust me, you are better  
off alone.
From: 00063164@ysub.ysu.edu (Black Eagle)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: "North by Northwest" - Why the title?
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:33:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: ysub.92104.15331800063164
 <1992Apr13.110040.1@acfcluster.nyu.edu>
Organization: Youngstown State University

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Path:
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From: mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: "North by Northwest" - Why the title?
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:00:40 GMT
Organization: New York University

>In article <1992Apr13.124622.11034@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de>,
>dfi@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Daniel Fischer) writes:
>> Having just seen Hitchcock's brilliant 'North by Northwest' again, I still
>> can't figure out what this title means.
>
>It's a line from Shakespeare.  Unfortunately I forget its relevance to the
>plot.

It's been a while since I've seen North by Northwest, but I believe it has
something to do with the main character's madness.
"I am but mad when the wind is North by Northwest" (pardon me if I've
misquoted, I know this is at least relatively close to the real line)
is a quote from Hamlet.
            Colourful dreams...
               Black Eagle (00063164@YSUB)
From: davidhal@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: HEAVY METAL? Which way did he go? Which way did h
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:41:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: yang.1992Apr14.134121.16966
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

Does anyone know where I can obtain a copy of the movie "HEAVY METAL"?
If you can aid my search, please vax me at Davidhal@yang.earlham.edu



                       Thanks!  
                        -Dave H.



P.S. Check out CANNIBAL CORPSE's new album entitled BUTCHERED AT BIRTH, 
now on METAL BLADE records. You will regret it.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: orson@bluemoon.rn.com (Craig Smith)
Subject: Re: Monty Python
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 20:15:30 EDT

csmith@onetouch.COM (Craig Smith) writes:

> I will not interrupt this board for a pound.
> 
> -- 
> :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
> :: Craig Smith                                         csmith@onetouch.COM ::
> :: Columbus, OH                                  ...!uunet!onetouch!csmith ::
> ::::::::::::::: "Life is a fulltime occupation."--Gene Kalman :::::::::::::::

It's in the luggage compartment.

 This is from
     orson@bluemoon.rn.com
who doesn't have their own obnoxious signature yet
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: dulm@Chaos.mcs.kent.edu (Darrell Ulm)
Subject: Forbidden Zone
Organization: Kent State University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 05:12:54 GMT

anyone seen the forbidden zone? Great isnt it!

necco

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