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From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Apple taking HyperCard back from Claris
Date: 29 Jan 93 16:13:55 +1300
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <broun-270193142054@broun.apple.com>, broun@apple.com (Kevin Broun) writes:

[good news omitted]

YAY! YAY! YAY! And what sounds really good to me is that, in the midst of that
PR gobbledygook, it seems clear that they're going to concentrate on HyperCard
as a serious development tool. Since a lot of its use in this area is based not
so much in the features it has built-in, but on its extensibility, I REALLY HOPE
this means that they will come up with new, even neater ways to extend its
extensibility. (To coin a phrase.)

And I gather from another posting that Kevin Calhoun has been roped in to work
on it again. Congratulations, Kevin! And does this mean you can actually
promise to fix the bugs I report, from now on...?

:-) (for lots of reasons)

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: +64-7-856-2889
Computer Services Dept                     fax: +64-7-838-4066
University of Waikato            electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+13:00
From: PANDERSON@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (Peter Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: help deprotecting a stack!
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:01:41 GMT
Organization: Cal State Univ Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: mlib13-mac2.csuchico.edu

Try this. Create a stack containing a button and the following script:
on mouseUp
  put filename("STAK") into fname
  if fname is empty then exit mouseUp
  deprotect fname
  if the result is empty
  then answer "Deprotect Successful" with "OK"
  else if the result is -49
  then answer "Sorry, that file is busy."
  else if the result is -44
  then answer "Sorry, the disk is locked."
  else answer "Failed: unexpected file system error: " & the result with 
"OK"
end mouseUp
 This is a script I found someplace, and I've usually been successful with it. 


panderson@oavax.csuchico.edu(PeterAnderson)
From: jkalanuk@bbs.draco.bison.mb.ca (Jeremy Kalanuk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Hypercard Videodisk controller
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:08:38 GMT
Organization: The Draco Unix System [BBS]

I know there is a stack that is commercial, and it comes with a variety 
of XCMDs for Sone/Pioneer/etc, video disk playsers.  It supports such 
things as Eject, stop, play etc.  I can't remember the name at the 
moment, but I can find out and see if I can get a price for you..


---
jkalanuk@bbs.draco.bison.mb.ca (Jeremy Kalanuk)
The Draco Unix System [BBS]
From: MEEK%SIKVAX@utrcgw.utc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Need Help With Apple Events Or File Specs In Hypercard
Date: 22 Jan 1993 12:04:05 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hi --

I'm trying to write a stack that manipulates files; one of the problems
I've come up against is trying to create a new folder from a Hypercard
or Supercard stack.  Does anyone know the Apple Event code or file
type/file creator codes (i.e. MDOC/RUNT) for creating new folders?

						Thank you,

						Amy Meek
From: KGODDEN@cmsa.gmr.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: educ software publishers?
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:40:38 GMT
Organization: GM Research Labs

I've written an educational stack and I'm looking for a commercial publisher.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to who I could contact?  I've already
contacted MECC, but they prefer IBM-ware.  Does anyone know of a company
called Intelliware, and if so, do you have a phone/location?  Any other
publishers you know of?  (It's a German-English dictionary with built in
vocab. exercises, etc etc etc etc ad nauseam, and I claim that it's FAR
superior to the other commercial foreign language stacks currently out there.)
Thanks.
-Kurt Godden
--------------------
"I distrust a research person who is always obviously busy on a task."
-Robert A. Frosch, VP, GM Research
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: mk@einstein.informatik.Uni-Bremen.DE (Michael Kloss)
Subject: NET-Connections ??????
Organization: Universitaet Bremen
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:11:57 GMT



HI ALL !

I'm new here, so I don't know if the place is right to 
tell you my Problem.

I want to use HyperCard for a Network connection. Exactly for
a telnet connection. I know the program HyperFTP. It connect me 
over the ethernet-card to a ftp-server. 
But for my host-computer I need telnet, not FTP. So I think I 
must use XCMDs ?. Can I use the XCMD from HyperFTP ? 
And how I use it ????????

Sorry, if that a bad question, but I'm new on the MAC.

THANX 
  MICHAEL (email:mk@informatik.uni-bremen.de)
From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: The DEATH of HyperCard and Don Crabb
Date: 29 Jan 93 17:16:35 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1k8vjhINNt5u@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, mike@pyrite.SOM.CWRU.Edu (Michael Kerner) writes:
>
>>= INACCURACIES =
>>
>>1) AppleScript != HyperTalk.  HyperTalk is a scripting language,
>>AppleScript is a technology.  AppleScript is not syntax dependent, for
>>example, you can use UserTalk (Frontier's scripting language) to write
>>AppleScript "scripts."  Crabb uses AppleScript and HyperTalk
>>interchangeably.

By the way, this is wrong. AppleScript is a language, and is syntax-dependent
like any other. UserTalk is a different language, which I would hardly expect
to look like AppleScript. What they both let you do is communicate with
applications via AppleEvents.

>>3) HyperCard already supports APIs to other languages. It always has.
>>You can write externals in everything from BASIC to assembler to Pascal,
>>FORTRAN and C.
>
> So?  Why is 4D selling like crazy and HC not at all?  Having neat
> API's does not a successful product make.

Depends on how you define success, doesn't it? Pay an FTP visit to Sumex,
and see the wide range of stacks and externals available there for HyperCard.
Now look for add-ons for 4D. How many can you find there?

>>4) HyperCard already supports Multimedia extensions in the form of above
>>XCMDs.
>
> All those using HC for multimedia please raise your hands - sure there
> are some, but by far most people are using Director

Note the "multi" in "multimedia". People are finding that Director, while
being a great animation tool, is not really good as an interaction tool--
HyperCard is much better for this. Conversely, you don't get far trying to
create animations in HyperCard.

What HyperCard is good for is pulling together the final presentation. You
create your animations in Director, your sounds in SoundEdit, edit your digital
video in Premiere or VideoShop, and then combine all the bits with a HyperCard
stack. HyperCard provides the overall appearance, the text handling--and the
control.

What I hope to see, now that Apple is putting HyperCard under its Development
Tools group, is more emphasis on its interactive, "front-end" nature.
HyperCard 2.0 was a major step forward with its support for external windows
and custom menus; let's see even more developments like these, which writers
of XCMDs and XFCNs (like myself) can take advantage of. HyperCard doesn't need
lots and lots of features: I don't think it even needs much in areas like
enhanced colour support! What it *does* need is carefully thought-out hooks, so
that other people can add all those wonderful features in simple, useful ways,
for those who need it, without imposing the cost in hardware resources (RAM,
CPU etc) on those who don't.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: +64-7-856-2889
Computer Services Dept                     fax: +64-7-838-4066
University of Waikato            electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+13:00
From: hansc@ulrik.uio.no (Hans Petter Christensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Import of MARC-format bibliographic data into a Hypercard-base
Date: 21 Jan 93 12:23:47 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Organization: University of Oslo

Does anyone know if a public (or commercial?) Hypercard programm exist for
import 	of MARC-format bibliographic data? This kind of programm will
probably also include a Hypercard format for presentation, retrieving,
export and print of the captured data. (MARC-format is an international
standard used in libraries as for example Library of Congress). So if
anyone know of any FTP-site, manufacturer or good advice, please respond.
Thanks, hpc 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu (GRUBB)
Subject: HyperCard & SuperCard-going to Die?
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:27:01 GMT

Well I read about the hiatus {death} of HyperCard in MacWeek and now I find
out that a program was developed to transfer SuperCard projects to hyperCard
because Aldus is looking to sale SuperCard.  Now where the %^$#*& do we go?
HyperCard is as good as dead and SuperCard is dieing.
From: jkc@Apple.COM (John Kevin Calhoun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: A personal note of thanks to all
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:55:10 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA


All,

We've been a little bit busy here of late, as you can probably
guess, given the news about HyperCard.  Until things settle down,
this short note will have to suffice:  thanks to everyone who
has been so supportive of HyperCard over the years.  I'm looking
forward to continued good communications about your endeavors
and your concerns.  You've really been of great help to me in
my work, and I hope you will continue, now that I'll need your
help even more!

More to come,
Kevin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: fredch@phx.mcd.mot.com (Fred Christiansen)
Subject: stack that teaches sign language?
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, RT Software
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:36:17 GMT

A friend who does not have NetNews access asked me to inquire if anyone
knows of a stack that teaches sign language -- freeware/shareware/commercial.
Unfortunately, I do not have a Mac, so I'm not current on what has
passed thru this newsgroup.  I suspect his reason for contacting me is
simply that I teach sign language classes from time to time.

I would be grateful if anyone has suggestions.  Pls respond via email.
I can summarize and post the results, if anyone desires.
-- 
Fred Christiansen, Motorola, 2900 S Diablo Way, Tempe, AZ 85282  "Canajun, eh?"
fredch@phx.mcd.mot.com  ||  uunet!phx.mcd.mot.com!fredch  ||  +1 602-438-3464
  ".. I have set before you Life and Death, blessing and cursing;  therefore
      choose Life, that both you and your children may live"  Deut 30:19
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: mgupta@eng.clemson.edu (Manu_Gupta)
Subject: Where can I get SuperCard ?
Reply-To: mgupta@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:04:13 GMT

Hi all !

The subject says it all.  A telephone number would be appreciated.  I am in South
Carolina so in case anyone finds a dealer nearby...

I am totally ignorant about SuperCard (having worked only on Hypercard).  I would
appreciate someone telling me which is the latest version and whether there is an
upcoming new version.

Thanx a lot.

Manu.
From: jstern@garnet.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: (!) Picture XCMD doesn't work on small PICTs????!!
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:40:47 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

In article <1993Jan22.182844.1667@leland.Stanford.EDU> felciano@summit.stanford.edu (Ramon M. Felciano) writes:
>
>Hi --
>
>Can someone verify this for me? I create a small PICT file (maybe 30
>pixels by 50 pixels), and try to open in with the Picture XCMD as a
>rect window. The window is larger than the PICT; the extra space is
>filled in with a grey pattern.
>
I'm not sure why it does that, but you can always bring the picture
up invisibly, and then "set the rect of window whatever to x1,y1,x2,y2"
where whatever is the name of the file/resource and x1,y1,x2,y2 is the
correct rect of the window, relative to your HyperCard window. Then
"show window whatever". Doesn't work well with windowstyles of document
or zoom, since they have size boxes, and your user can just stretch
the window back out to make that grey pattern visible again, but other
than that, it does the trick.

Judy Stern
Instructional Technology Program
UC Berkeley
jstern@garnet.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: mhz7c@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Mark H. Zollinhofer)
Subject: Re: Problem with putting text in the middle of a field
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:57:23 GMT

vaughn@pluto.cis.udel.edu  writes:
> As many people say when posting here, this is probably a simple problem! :-)
> 
> I'm writing a Hypercard program for children that will make it easier for them
> to write programs (which will control devices built with Legos using the Pearl
> Controller, but this is incidental and isn't important to my question).
> I have two fields, one which is unlocked and contains the program, and one
> which is locked and contains a list of functions and commands that they can
> click on.  When a command or function in the second field is chosen, it is
> put into the program field at the insertion point, along with any parameters
> that they have to supply.  This is in order to minimize the typing they have
> to do, and to show them what the parameters of the various keywords are.
> 
> Unfortunately, I have tried at least half a dozen different ways to do this.
> My problem mostly stems from the fact that you lose the ability to know where
> the insertion point is in the first field the second you click outside of it.
> I tried several ways to remember it, but nothing has worked.  The most 
> success I've had so far was by just using the "type" command.  When they
> click on a keyword in the second field, it is "type"d, which makes it appear
> at the insertion point.  The problem with this is that both fields are 
> scrollable, and if you use the scroll bar on the field with the list of 
> keywords, the insertion point is moved to the message box, and I'm out of luck
> again.
> 
Just a thought -- could you script in a procedure that would
put in place and ampersand or some other unlikely character at
the loc of the insertion point, and then take advantage of the
find command to locate the ampersand again and replace the
selectedText with the line from the second field?  Never tried
it but it seems logical.  ??  That's all you get from me for
two cents!!
--
| Mark H. Zollinhofer  --UVa Ph.D.student      Quotable quote:          |
|   619 Highland Ave.              |     "There's no need to take God   |
|   Charlottesville, VA 22903      |      seriously." -Lot's wife       |
|   internet: markz@virginia.edu   |                  (Gen 19:26)       |
From: au462@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert Drake)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: animation drivers?
Date: 23 Jan 1993 18:00:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


I want to ad some animations to some stacks i'm working on (pretty
simple stuff, letters sliding around the screen & the like).  what
i'd REALLY like to be able to do is play Director movies, is there
a way to do that (i've heard of drivers for HC--like XCMDs? where
are they available?). i've tried using Studio1, but found it pretty
cumbersome--any other suggestions?  would be interested to hear
anybody's past experience in this area...

oh yeah, i'm on a lowly SE, and often stick to HC 1.2 just to
ensure compatability, tho thats a preference & not a requirement

thanks
luigi
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.hypercard:4942 comp.sys.mac.misc:22383
From: friedan@raunvis.hi.is (Daniel Friedan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: HST Greatest Hits - 5 pictures blank?
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:26:23 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Distribution: comp

I've downloaded the hypercard stack "HST Greatest Hits" but can see
only 20 of the 25 pictures.
 
I have Quicktime 1.0 installed. I'm running HyperCard 2.1 under System 
7.0.1 (tuneup 1.1.1). 
 
The following 5 pictures are blank:
 
     3. Pluto and Charon Double Planet
    10. Einstein Cross
    16. NGC 1275
    24. Cepheid Variable Stars
    25. Black Hole Central Engine.
 
I recall some mention of photo decompression software being needed.
 
Could this be the problem?  If so, is there someplace I can ftp it from?
 
     thanks for any help,
     
     Daniel Friedan <friedan@raunvis.hi.is>
From: Jon Wiederspan <jonwd@uwtc.washington.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: SuperCard and XCMD's in resource fork
Date: 25 Jan 1993 16:26:07 GMT
Organization: Technical Japanese Program
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: harajuku.tjp.washington.edu
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X-XXDate: Mon, 25 Jan 93 16:18:35 GMT

>Jon,
>I read your note that certain xcmds had to be in the resource fork of the
>supercard project to work. Could you please explain a little more .....
is
>there anything additional to be done. I tried putting an xcmd into the
resource
>fork ......... is there some other way to reference this xcmd in the
script ??
>Please post the answer to the hypercard news group or email me at
>rbj@decoy.cc.bellcore.com
>Thanks,
>Ralph.

The details on this are in the Technical Notes which accompany SuperCard.
TN #8: BEING RESOURCEFUL:

"Where they break --

Most of the problems that occur are in external routines that are not
'encapsulated'.  This means that they are part of a milti-resource
package that expects all the resources in the group to be in the file's
resource fork.  To make them operate correctly in SuperCard, it is
necessary to determine which resources are referred to directly by
SuperCard and make sure they exist as project resources.  The remainder
must exist in the resource fork.  For example, say two XFCN's, Fun1 and
Fun2, are in a project.  Fun1 is called directly in a script, but Fun2 is
only called internally by Fun1 and never shows up in a script.  In this
case, Fun1 must be a project resource and Fun2 must be a standard
resource. "

Thus, any XFCN which is called from a script must be located in the
project resources (data fork), and any that are referred to internally
must be in the standard resources (resource fork).

"Language Extensions --

There is an addition to the OPEN and CLOSE commands within SuperTalk,
namely OPEN RESOURCES and CLOSE RESOURCES.  This lets you put standard
resources into the resource fork of a SuperCard project and have them
seen by the Resource Manager.  It is crucial to understand how the
Resource Manager searches files when multiple projects are opened up
along with their resource forks.  For a discussion of this, please
reference INSIDE MACINTOSH VOLUME I, CHAPTER 5, 'THE RESOURCE MANAGER'. 
These commands should be left to the advanced users."

These commands solve the problem of an XFCN which needs both to be called
from a script and to be located in a resource fork.

SuperCard has functions for moving resources between the data and
resource forks, and for enumerating resources.  These are also explained
in TN #8.

Jon Wiederspan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: jason@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Jason Rosenberg)
Subject: Highlight XCMD
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 18:07:02 GMT


Hello,

I have an old version of the stack "about highlight..." which contains the
hypercard xcmd highlight.  Anyway, I'm trying to find out if there's ever
been an update to it, one that might be more compatible with hypercard 2.1,
etc.  The one I have has a creation date of February, 1989.  It says its
author is Ron Janzen, of the Ontario Science Centre, Toronto.  It has the rather
incomplete email address: ron@oscvax.  I haven't been able to reach Ron.
I didn't find a copy to the stack via ftp at sumex-aim either.

Anyway, if you know anything about this stack, or how I might send ron email
successfully, please let me know.  Also, I'd be interested in any highlighting
xcmd that anyone might know about...

As an extension to the version of highlight that we have,
we'd like a feature which would allow you to turn off the
highlighting of individual buttons, while still making use of the highlightareas
bg field.  

thanks

Jason

-- 
Jason Rosenberg                           Computer Science Department
jason@cs.ucla.edu                         University of California
{uunet,rutgers,ucbvax}!ucla-cs!jason      Los Angeles, CA  90024
From: draper@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu (E.J. Draper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: colorizeHC XCMD... userlevel, visual effects, picts?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:06:19 GMT
Organization: U.T.M.D. Anderson Cancer Center
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17
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X-XXDate: Wed, 27 Jan 93 21:58:54 GMT

In article <1k6q1eINNqag@shelley.u.washington.edu> Selene Fisher,
selene@carson.u.washington.edu writes:

>
>Q1: Now that I have copied the XCMD into my stack (using ResCopy v.
>4.0b17) and have added some color with "colorFill", whenever I open my
>stack, the userlevel is set to 2 and blindtyping is false.  This only
>happens when I launch the stack as the first access to hypercard.  It's
>fine if I come in from another stack.  I have no protection on, my home
>preferences are fine, and once I bring up the message window, I can
freely
>change my userlevel, etc.  Does anyone recognize this problem? 

I bet you added the colorFill routine to your startup handler.  You need
to pass startUp on up the hierarchy to the home stack.  The home stack
calls GetHomeInfo which sets up the userLevel and other prefs such as
blindTyping.

On StartUp
	DoWhatEver
	colorFill...,...
	pass StartUp // <---- VERY IMPORTANT!
end StartUp

>Q3: Last question (phew).  Does anyone have any pointers on how to create
>spiffy looking buttons like Bung-Dabba used in their original stack?

I use SuperPaint and I've produced some nice results.  Nothing like
SuperPaint, a color scanner, and a rainy Saturday afternoon to bring out
those creative urges.


      |E|J-  ED DRAPER
 rEpar|D|<-  Radiologic/Pathologic Institute
             The University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center
             draper@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu
From: mdichter@hstbme.mit.edu (Mark Dichter, MD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: SuperCard callbacks info request
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Date: 25 Jan 1993 15:40:01 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Group/ Harvard Med
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 134.174.81.94

In article <1jpffpINNo0j@shelley.u.washington.edu>, Jon Wiederspan
<jonwd@uwtc.washington.edu> wrote:
> 
> In article <mdichter-220193101942@134.174.81.94> Mark Dichter,
> mdichter@hstbme.mit.edu writes:
> > I have an XFCN:
> > GetStarInfo(ResType)   Returns list of resource names of given type
> 
> Is this available for ftp?  If not, could you load it (and the code?) to
> ftp.uwtc.washington.edu or to Thor's SuperCard site? Thanks!

I put it and the code up to Thor's SuperCard site, in the incoming folder.
Your welcome.

Mark Dichter, MD
mdichter@hstbme.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard