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From: jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Pakistan are missing Imran in ODI's
Date: 21 Dec 92 01:55:52 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
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In article <1992Dec20.181116.12360@walter.bellcore.com> shamim@bellcore.com (Shamim Naqvi) writes:


Aah Good!  Some discussion about Pakistan batting. 

>problem is the over-rated Ramiz Raja. If I were in Miandad's shoes

But I like him! [whine :(  ]  OK, maybe he can share that
number #7 with Mujtaba on odd numbered days.


And why HAS Malik been playing #3 anyway? [semi-rhetorical question]

>
>1. Saeed Anwar
>2. Aamir Sohail 
>3. Miandad
>4. Inzimam
>5. Malik
>6. Wasim
>with Asif Mujtaba as a backup opener or at #7. 

Could you see a place for others who were left behind
[ Shoaib, Yousef etc], IF they were available?

j n a
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From: hafeez@vxcrna.cern.ch (Syed Mohammad Ali)
Subject: Re: WORLD CHAMPS!!!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:47:00 GMT

In article <PCM.92Dec18103645@baby.bby.oz.au>, pcm@baby.bby.oz.au (Paul McLeish) writes...
>Can you say 4 wickets for 9 runs ?
>or 5 for 14 ?
>or all out for 81 ?
>or 10 overs 8 maidens 3 runs 4 wickets ?
>Can you spell Phil Simmons ?
>Does 5 games 1 win 3 losses and 1 draw mean anything to you ?
> 
>Eat crow and die !
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

   Now I wonder if the situation is really that desperate for Pakistanis
   that they have to eat Australians to commit suicide.

   Believe me....if they continue playing like this, their supporters
   back in Pakistan will be more than willing to give the Pakistani
   team a welcoming death blow.

   A Pakistani

> 
>8-)
>An Australia.
> 
> 
> 
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From: vaghela@laxatv.reo.dec.com (Umesh Vaghela)
Subject: India 140/3 after 41 overs
Reply-To: vaghela@laxatv.reo.dec.com (Umesh Vaghela)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:11:01 GMT


Azhar - 45no
Tendulkar - 28no

Looks like India might score 240-260.

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From: kpw105@phys.anu.edu.au (Ken Wessen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Allan Lamb hits 18 off the last over (was Re: pak vs aus 1-day)
Followup-To: rec.sport.cricket
Date: 18 Dec 1992 02:11:21 GMT
Organization: Theoretical Physics, Australian National University
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I feel a bit sorry for Bruce Reid - he has been responsible for two of
Australia's most ignominious one-day defeats.
Firstly the game vs England where 18 runs were hit off five balls in the
final over, and secondly against NZ when he faced the entire last over
without scoring the one run needed.

Fortunately he is such a good bowler that neither of these incidents is
held against him.  I fear Australia will miss his services greatly in the
next two tests.

Ken
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From: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Subject: Re: Using Dougie
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 03:12:10 GMT
Reply-To: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1gql67INNlhh@roche.csl.sri.com>, rgajendr@cisco.com (I. Rajeev Gajendran) writes:
>For the benefit of semi-literate Unix non-users 
>like myself, could somebody post a user's manual ?  
>"Installing and Using Dougie for morons ?." 
>Start with step 1. "Turn on the computer," 
>(just kidding, but you get the idea). I have a 

    Here is the User's manual for using Dougie when Pieter (the great :-))
turns it on his computer, possibly this Saturday. This is Sunos version for
SPARC stations etc.

      1. ftp into power.ee.nodak.ndsu.edu  and login as anonymous
      2. Grab the file called Dougie.bin, which is in the home directory for
the anonymous ftp users (you do not have to cd to any other directory like pub
or bar)
      3. get it in ASCII mode (do not worry that it has an extension .bin)
      4. Strip the headers and keep only the part of the file starting with the
line begin    
      5. UUdecode it.  Now you have a working dougie which you can run as a
slave.

      6. On the day Pieter is running his dougie program, finger his account.
You will get info about the port number, say 12345

      7.  Just give the command:

dougie  ford.ee.up.ac.za  12345   -plan

      You are in business.

This particular uuencoded vesrion was created by Neeran Karnik for C and Unix
illiterates like myself.

K. Sankara Rao                          e-mail k.srao@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu

Department of Electrical Engineering
Fargo, ND 58105  USA

Phone:  (701)237-7217  (o)
        (701)235-9912  (h)
From: jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: pak over 23
Date: 13 Dec 92 01:42:13 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
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Pak 64/2 in the 23rd.

Mujtaba  23
Minadad  01

j n a
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From: david@datamark.co.nz (David Rowland)
Subject: Re: AERODYNAMICS OF THE CRICKET BALL  - scientific
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:04:38 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

In article <Bz9pny.Kup@sunfish.usd.edu> shariq@charlie.usd.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.061118.5360@news.clarkson.edu>, pdy@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Yapa,,,) writes:
>>
>> AERODYNAMICS OF THE CRICKET BALL  - scientific
>>Swing properties deteriorate with the aging of the ball.
>>

I think that this will determine on the tampering the bowler does to
the ball.  

And no, I'm not saying that any Pakistan bowler does this as everyone
knows they are honest sportmen and respect the code of the game :-).

Dave.

PS.  The opinion expressed here is mine.  I cant speak for anyone else
as I dont know what their opinions are.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:59:39 CST
From: <U17868@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: World Champions???

The reason why Pakistan's performance is bad in ODI's is that they played the O
DI's mostly in Australia and England. The conditions in AUstralia and England a
re very different from Pakistan or India or Sharjah. The reason why the perform
ance of AUstralia is good is because they play more matches at home then away.
Look at the statistics of Pakistan's one day record in Pakistan, India, Sharjah
(since all three countries have almost same condtions) and you will find out mo
re. I don't know what the winning percentage of Australia is abroad, but I k
now that they lost the one day series against Sri Lanka. Does that mean that Sr
i Lanka is better side than Australia? I doubt that.

Cricket is played in many countries and one should not judge the performance of
 any team considering their performance in one or two countries.
Sikander Waheed
u17868@uicvm.cc.uic.edu
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From: nudd@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Nai Ying Kwok)
Subject: Re: "Cheating" Aussie umpires?
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:48:53 GMT

: >In article <1992Dec3.142901.10550@vax.oxford.ac.uk> mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
: >>Is it surprising that the recent unfortunate events re: Umpire Prue are being
: >>used to fan the simmering resentment of the 91-92 Indian tour? (by "aggrieved
: >>Indian fans" and "injured Aussies").  Strangely, you don't see the net full of
: >>rabid WI fans accussing the Aussies of cheating.  Chill out people.  I will
: >
: >	Maybe that's because there are very few WI fans on the net - a
: >relevant fact.
: >
: >>give Prue the benefit of the doubt, because I wasn't on the field, nor was I
: >>watching the match, which is the same position most of you guys posting in
: >>North America were in.
:

Well, I was watching the whole thing on TV and I saw the endless
replays.  Lara (great player!) was not out, beyond the shadow of a
doubt.  If Prue gave him out, and he was not sure, then the man has no
place umpiring ever again.  His fitness to umpire is even further
questioned when he caved in to the pressures caused by that decision,
and made some appalling decisions thereafter, most notably the Arthurton
not out when he most certainly was (I am 99% sure given the replays, but
I could be wrong :-). A man who caves in to pressure like that is
clearly unsuited for Test umpiring.  

BTW there were a couple of other bad decisions in the game as well,
although I am not sure whether they were given by Prue or not.  I am
almost convinced that Richardson was not caught behind (did not connect
with the ball) in WI's second innings.  Certainly it was far too close
for me to call, but from ALL the angles of the replays, it seemed that
Richie actually played the ball far too late and the ball actually hit
the pads before the bat had even completed the motion.  The TV angles
weren't too good so again I will have to reserve judgement on that.
Still, it seems to me that the West Indies were desperately unlucky at
CRITICAL moments in the game.  Although a lot of that could be
attributed to McDermott Reid bowling incredibly well, (Brilliantly, in
fact) just before the lunch break.

It should also be noted that I am not partisan in any way, as I am a
Singaporean and do NOT have either WI or Ozzie sympathies.  I am not
trying to promote the superiority or otherwise of either team.  (Now, if
Singapore could score more than 6 all out in the ICC trophy, I would
have something to be partisan about! :-)  ).  These are purely my
hopefully objective opinions based on my observation of that particular
game and my knowledge of cricket.  Of course, I may have been
brainwashed by decades of WI superiority into believing that they are a)
unbeatable and b) if are do get beaten, it is by a fluke, but somehow, I
do not think so...

Nudd



 >
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From: tripunit@algol.cs.psu.edu (Mahesh V Tripunitara)
Subject: Feeling sorry for Bruce Reid
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:39:28 GMT

In article <kpw105-181292130835@theophys1.anu.edu.au> kpw105@phys.anu.edu.au (Ken Wessen) writes:
>I feel a bit sorry for Bruce Reid - he has been responsible for two of
>Australia's most ignominious one-day defeats.

Well as far as I can remember, he was also largely responsible for Australia
winning the world cup in '87. He got Mianded and Lamb clean bowled in
the semi-finals & finals respectively when each of them was looking
pretty dangerous...Mianded scored 70-odd & Lamb had 60-odd.

Mahesh.
From: shafqat@neuro.duke.edu (Saad Shafqat)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: "Can we count the chickens yet"
Date: 19 Dec 92 04:02:42 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.



For some reason (and this is not meant to be an excuse) Pakistan have
always done miserably in the triangular WSC Benson & Hedges tournaments.
As far as I know, they have never even reached the finals; certainly
they have never won it.  In fact, I think Pakistan must have one
of the worst records of any team in the WSC traingulars.  Is this true ?


Saad.

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From: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Subject: Re: I am confused
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:56:35 GMT
Reply-To: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <BzBn3t.7yp@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v079rbu4@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Sanjay Kohli) writes:
>In article <9212152159.AA12481@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu>, B536HIND@UTARLVM1.UTA.EDU (C. S. Sudarshana Bhat) writes...
>>The posts on the net say that India scored 207 for 4 and Azhar made 80-odd,
>>and Shastri 21 off 18 balls.  Then, there is the info in Dr. Rao's .plan
>>which says that India made 160-odd all out, with Azhar making 49 and Shastri
>>17 off 32 balls.  Which one is correct?  Or are they both correct, and for
>>different matches (then I am *more* confused!!).
>
>I think some how Mr. Rao's plan directory got screwed up because this 
>morning it was showing stat. of todays game than later it started showing 
>last games(4th screwed) figure. They are different matches. 
>
        What I was doing was fingering Piter's address and then copying the
data to the .plan files of the three machines. At some stage, it is obvious now
that Pieter's .plan file reverted to Sunday's game and that was what started
appearing in my .plan file. Sorry for that confusion. I was not monitoring ( I
have given up on the result anyway).

       If all goes well I will be running Dougie tomorrow night for WI/Pak game
and creating .plan file from that. In the meantime if somebody (unix and C
gurus) come up with a nice good executable for a non-unix machine (preferably a
VMS running UCX, I will be very happy)

>
>
>
>
>Cheers
K. Sankara Rao                          e-mail k.srao@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu

Department of Electrical Engineering
Fargo, ND 58105  USA

Phone:  (701)237-7217  (o)
        (701)235-9912  (h)

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From: arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan)
Subject: Re: World Champions???
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 08:23:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.162646.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty) writes:
>In article <92352.165939U17868@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U17868@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>> The reason why Pakistan's performance is bad in ODI's is that they played 
>> the ODI's mostly in Australia and England.
>
>Oh bollocks - they won the bloody World Cup in Australia didn't they???
>
>Alan

utter rot - they only win sometimes, so they won the semi's and final's,
pure luck.

sahibzada rafay khan
From: KSRAO@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: End of WI inningsWI/Pak WSC
Date: 11 Dec 1992 21:40:25 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Game will restart at 11:15 EST 

Bishop was out in the first ball of the last over from Mushtaq caught at the

  WI made   7 for 177 Rich 77, Cummins 4 
midwicket boundary for 17 at 173.
WI are  6 fo 163. Rich 71, Bishop 12 extras 26
Richardson hit 13 off aWaqar over.
Hooper c Rashid off Akram for 24 at 133 in 37 th over.

The game isstarting at 10:00 pm EST. They lost 86 minutes and the game is now a
42 over match

WI are 5 for 123. Rich 50, Hooper 22, extras 21 at the end of 35 overs

After  34 overs, WI are 5 for 118, Richardson is  49 and Hooper 18 and rain is
coming and the players are off the field.


WI are 5 for 103 after 30 overs. Rich 45, Hooper 7, extras 21

WI are  5 for 87 after 25, Ric 36, Hooper 1, extras  20

Arthurton was caught by Inzamam when he tried to guide through second slip for
3 at 81



At the end of 20 overs: WI are 4 for 67; Rcd 22 and Arthurton  1

Lara was bound around his legs by Javid, the ball flattening the leg stump.
Lara scored 15, he was out at 56.

Logie was next to go, hitting the ball at Rameez's throat off Sohail's
spinners, (mid wicket), a bad shot

At the end of 15 overs; WI are 2 for 46; Ricson 12, Lara12
Richardson hits a six off Aaquib in the 15 th over
At the end of 10 overs WI are   29 for 2
Lara  on  8, Richie 0, extras 10

Haynes  b Wasim  6
Simmons c Sohail b Wasim  5


Haynes was bowled through the gate - a beautiful delivery from Akram which
flattened the middle stump in the 7th over.

In the 9th over, he got Wasim caught by Sohail off a ball moving away in the
second slip.

WI batting first: 10 for no loss; Haynes 4 Lara 1

They are after 5 overs   

3 wides in a row in Wasim's 3rd over (5th of the game)
From: rsp@ukc.ac.uk (R.S.Pickett)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: pak v. aus 1 day
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:53:37 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.


In article 23558 sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:

>In article <Bz1yxM.DGo@nic.umass.edu> ganesan@thales.tmc.edu (Swaminathan Ganesan) writes:
>>
>>I think this match goes to show why many consider Pak. to be the best
>>
>>1 day team in the world right now. Coming back into the match has always
>>been pak's strong point and this is what I think makes them stand apart
>>from the rest.
>
>It's performances like this which are truly world champion stuff. Imagine 128/6
>and the last 4 wickets make the 100 runs required (1 more would have just done
>it). Pakistan is now finding the balance and reliabilty from everyone in the 
>side. IMHO, this is the start of the Pakistan era of ODI dominance. But then
>I could be proved wrong - sportspersons from the subcontinent have been known
>to be mercurial.
>
>Sudhama
>
>

Is it really true that tying a match with Australia is indicative of the
best one day side in the world. Surely it would have been a rather more
impressive performance if their top order batsmen hadn't got them into the
difficult position from which they had to come back in the first place. I
don't think it does much credit to Pakistan to suggest that a tie is such an
amazing achievement. They're a better side than that. You say that just one
more would have done it, but equally one less would have just failed to do
it (For example if Waugh hadn't bowled a full toss). Are we really supposed
to believe that one ball can decide whether or not a side is truly world
champion material. Pakistan are the world champions because they won the
world cup, so lets stop all these pointless arguments after every single
match they play.

Rob.
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Subject: Re: Martin Crowe given out - part ii
From: cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:55:55 GMT
 <1992Dec11.161534.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> <1992Dec11.034837.17484@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <1992Dec11.034837.17484@leland.Stanford.EDU>, rohanc@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rohan Koduvayur Kri Chandran) writes:
> Obviously no-one from New Zealand is raising a hue and cry over this issue.
> They have nothing to complain about, do they.

Sure haven't as our team was well and truly beaten in both this test and the
following two one-dayers. However as it was the square leg umpire who negated
the original decision nobody else has a hell of a lot to complain about
either!!!

Alan

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From: smunir@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sohail Munir)
Subject: next match of Pak in WSC
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 11:30:04 GMT

Could someone please post, when is the next match of Pakistan in WSC after 
their loss to Aussies.
Thnx.
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From: hafeez@vxcrna.cern.ch (Syed Mohammad Ali)
Subject: Re: One day team strength
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:25:00 GMT

In article <Dec.18.18.17.49.1992.25055@maya.rutgers.edu>, govindra@maya.rutgers.edu (S Govindarajan) writes...
>match (Ind. Vs. Pak.) at Sharjah, where Maninder wreacked havoc during
>his last 5 overs. I think he had analysis of 4/23 from 10, all the 4
>wickets coming at the end of his spell. India had a very low total to
>defend and Pakistan won that match, but I remember thinking that had
>Manider been allowed another 5 overs, India would have won the match
>handily.

      Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly....it's a strange phenomenon.
      A similar incident that comes to mind also took place in a
      Pak-Ind match in Sharjah.....Imran Khan had just made a come
      back after his injury and he tore apart the Indian batting with
      a figure of 6-14.....but still India won the match.

> 
>Govind
>email :govindra@cs.rutgers.edu

      regards,

      Syed

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From: skrishna@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sriram Krishnaswami)
Subject: Please post scores : SA/Ind OD III OD.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:48:49 GMT


Could someone with access to the III one day scores
please post the same? Thank you.

sriram K.
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From: s1172217@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (Mark Smith)
Subject: Re: Next World Cup
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:39:41 GMT

cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty) writes:

>In article <1992Dec15.153703.6011@gserv1.dl.ac.uk>, A.M.T.Bell@daresbury.ac.uk (A.M.T. Bell) writes:
>> Now that Zimbabwe are a test nation I would imagine that there would be at
>> least 10 nations taking part (9 test nations + ICC trophy champs), although
>> maybe it could be 12 nations (9 test + 3 ICC associates). This is just my
>> opinion though.

>As far as I'm aware there will be 12 teams in the 1995 World Cup.

>Alan
Yes there will be 12 teams in the next world cup, the 9 test match countries
and the best 3 from the ICC countries to be decided in the ICC tournerment (
does anyone know where and when this is being held?).

Also for those that don't already know South Africa have pulled out of the
race to host it citing the fact they need to develop their cricket more at
base routes before trying to host and organise something like this.  Leaving
England and a combined India, Pakistan,Sri Lanka the only 2 options for
hosting it, as England haven't had it since '83 I believe it is thier turn and
the one after that can be either the Ind,Pak, SL or a South Africa, Zimbabwe
world cup depending on what south Africa are doing at the time.

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