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From: ee152fdm@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (Maiko Covington)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Please give your opinions...
Date: 8 Nov 92 20:19:09 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Oops.. misunderstanding here. I meant to say that what I don't like
about the term "gaijin-san" isn't that it's the "gaijin" meaning
alien, but that "....-san" just sounds sorta strange with words of
nationality and such. Probably just because "gaijin" isn't a title.
It is the same way that in English "Mr. Iranian" just kinda sounds
weird. The whole "alien" problem I think just comes from people
translating the word "gaijin" a while back when "alien" still only
meant "foreigner", and then not changing it while SF movies came out
and the term "alien" got another more popular meaning. ^_^
	As far as the term "gaijin" itself goes... I've thought
about it, and I think that the term IS neutral, but it is a bit more
informal (it's shorter and easier to say) so that those people who
ARE intentionally trying to be insulting would probably use this
word (it's easier to yell? ^_^). It's not the word itself, it's just
the coincidence of how SOME people choose to use it.
	I must say though, I still think it's silly when Japanese
here are saying "gaijin" about American people, or "gaisya" for
American cars IN THE US. Just a habit that's hard to break.
		Maiko
From: smith@ctron.com (Lawrence C Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: A Japanese student killed in Lousiana
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:16:52 GMT
Reply-To: smith@ctron.com
Organization: Cabletron Systems, Inc.

In article <7996@transfer.stratus.com>, cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:
>Mr. Masuda needs to be aware that air rifles and BB guns are already
>as restricted as elephant guns in Massachusetts.  The argument nowadays
>is about restricting WATER PISTOLS.

I think it needs to be underlined here that C. D. is _not_ being sarcastic
or facetious, not only does Mass make air rifles and BB gun illegal, it is,
in fact, seriously considering banning water pistols.  The rational is
pretty simple: having banned all firearms, anyone who carries one is def-
initely a lawbreaker, so cops feel free to shoot them with less warning and
with few legal repercussions.  The problem is, water pistols _look_ just like
real guns, and a number of kids have been shot by cops because they were
brandishing what looked like a firearm - one kid even got it without a verbal
warning, from a cop he didn't even know was there, because the cop was "under
the impression" the kid was about to shoot his friend.  As, indeed, he was,
with a stream of water.  This, of course, causes requirements for warnings
and bring legal repercussions.  So, in order to save "even one life", Mass
is now considering several bills to outlaw water pistols.  None of them men-
tion toy guns specifically, but there is another lobbying group trying to make
_all_ toy guns illegal, though they have no bills currently pending that I am
aware of.

Massachusetts is a living reductio ad absurdum.

Larry Smith (smith@ctron.com)  No, I don't speak for Cabletron.  Need you ask?
-
Liberty is not the freedom to do whatever we want,
it is the freedom to do whatever we are able.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,talk.politics.guns
From: lvc@cbnews.cb.att.com (Larry Cipriani)
Subject: Re: Japanese exchange student killed in Louisiana...
Organization: Ideology Busters, Inc.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:22:27 GMT

In article <BxE08w.JyJ@ncifcrf.gov>, masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:

> >Citizens able to defend themselves. Especially women and the elderly
> >who are often the victims of rape, assault, and robbery precisely
> >because the criminals think they can not defend themselves.
> 
> Do you propose a policy to distribute a free handgun to all the women and
> elderly who want to have one?

The gov't of Israel will issue firearms to citizens, including fully-automatic
Uzi machine-pistols to citizens.  Seems to work for them ...

Too, I would rather live in a world where gun ownership was mandatory than
in one where it was prohibited.
-- 
Larry Cipriani, att!cbvox1!lvc or lvc@cbvox1.att.com
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:27:15 -0500 
From: Soshi Iba <si0l+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: RIGHT-WING EXTREMISTS MASSACRE 47 COLLEGE STUDENTS IN ROPPONGI

	Hey, what is your intention of posting a totally bogus article like
this with --- (AP)  on its head????  I first totally believed this, told
people about this, then I checked with my relative in Japan through
e-mail... and found out this was a f**king LIE!!!

	Come on Henry, many of us here are depended on the news on Japan we
receive from this bboard (e.i. Kaz "acid" Sanada's music news,  Bach
Frederic's Sumo posting, Hitoshi Doi's occasional Japanese news update,
etc.), and what you did has gone well above the level of  joke.  I took
it as a real offense.

	I think you owe an apology to lots of us on this bboard.

	Soshi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: a7657@mindlink.bc.ca (Stephen H. Kawamoto)
Subject: Re: internment camps
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:02:58 GMT

MH> For Bruce Matsugu:
MH> >And you Americans wonder why your insensitive attitude infuriates
MH> >so many other people!
MH> >
MH> Luckily posts on the net represent only the views of the
MH> individual author. Please don't be guilty of the same
MH> stereotyping which seems to afflict the person you are flamming.

And stereotyping is almost akin to racism, and there are valid claims that
not even one person is free from its retrograde influences.

--
PGP 384/D7484F Stephen Kawamoto

a7657@mindlink.bc.ca.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: f91-gal@nada.kth.se (Gran Alterland)
Subject: origami
Keywords: origami,help,info
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:17:17 GMT

Is there anyone in this group who could tell me if there is a
ftpable site (or otherwize available computer facility) that holds
some information about origami? Anything would be appreciated!

E-mail to f91-gal@alv.nada.kth.se

Thanks!
From: wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL (Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: call for a new newsgroup
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:49:43 GMT
Organization: U.S. Naval Academy

In article <MS-C.721377466.1103527590.mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM> mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (Mark Crispin) writes:
>The signal/noise on this newsgroup has deteriorated to the point where it has
>become useless.  Between the ranting about guns and the ranting of Rikiya
>Asano, this newsgroup has become impossible to read even with advanced
>newsreading tools that help you find the 2 messages out of 156 that are worth
>reading.
>
>I think it is time for a new newsgroup, preferably a moderated one, in which
>Japanese cultural, historical, and social issues can be discussed in an
>intelligent fashion.  We can leave this newsgroup for Asano to vent his
>paranoid, racist, and historically inaccurate blather along with the gun
>flamers.

I oppose starting a new newsgroup.  You can run but you can't hide
(unfortunately).  It is futile to try to keep the idiots out.

The gun control debate is not quite as pointless as it seems.  Admittedly
it has nothing to do with Japanese culture but it does relate to an aspect
of American culture that many Japanese are currently wondering about.  We
Americans have heard it all before; so kill it out if you want.  I haven't
done so because occasionally mixed in with the political debate are messages
concerning the facts of the particular case (which is, I think, a legitimate
topic for this group).  I posted a query at one time to Japanese readers,
asking whether they found the debate interesting.  For what it's worth, I
received a single positive response and no negative ones.

I've watched several newsgroups go through phases like this.  It will pass.


-- 
Els Withers                   email: wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.mil
          phone: (410)267-3192 / fax: (410)267-4883
When orbiting particle-beam weapons are outlawed, only outlaws will have
orbiting particle-beam weapons.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,talk.politics.guns
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: A Japanese student killed in Lousiana
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 06:16:54 GMT

masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:

> pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai) writes:

>>If you would look at the statistics, you would see the number
>>of gun accidents is very low, much less than the number of
>>people who die in swimming pools or fall down stairs.

>   Even if it's true that the number is not large, those cases are still a
>tragedy. If there's a way to decrease the number, wouldn't it be
>reasonable to go for it?

	Naw, let's go for the number of deaths that is eight times the
gun death rate.  Let's decrease the number of automobile deaths.

	As a show of good faith, you can quit exporting first, Michiaki.
We'll follow suit once the auto deaths equal the gun deaths over here.
Don't forget to import as many Harley-Davidson motorcycles as possible.
They are quite under-represented in accident fatalities, you know.

	Silly once you take it to its logical conclusion, isn't it?

< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
<  ISU only censors what I read, not what I say.  Don't blame them.  >
<  "This isn't an answer, it's a pagan dance around a midnight fire  >
<   written in intellectual runes." -- Rich Young                    >


	
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: a7657@mindlink.bc.ca (Stephen H. Kawamoto)
Subject: Re: Anyone know of this song?
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 05:27:40 GMT

I could be mistaken but it sounds (looks) like one of Akiko Yano's songs.
She has lots of songs recorded with Ryuichi Sakamoto and others, various
albums being OESU OESU, GRANOLA, BROOCH, GOHANGADEKITAYO (sound familiar? :),
        and TOOGE NO WAGAYA.
--
PGP 384/D7484F Stephen Kawamoto

a7657@mindlink.bc.ca.


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From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Splitting soc.culture.japan
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:38:47 GMT

In article <BxKIpA.771@ncifcrf.gov> masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:
>In article <cTq2TB5w165w@student.business.uwo.ca> k3amichi@student.business.uwo.ca (Kentaro Nakamichi) writes:
>>I see no reason to split soc.culture.japan.
>
>   I second this.
>
>>  If we can put an end to the 
>>Louisiana thread
>
>   Sorry, folks. I went too far. Since our site doesn't have t.p.g., I ended
>up with causing an obnoxious noise in s.c.j. Yes, I realize it and will put
>an end to my "Louisiana" thing. I'm sure that would help A LOT. Enough said, 
>enough heard and enough learned anyway... (Of course, I don't mean to say
>that others should stop this thread in s.c.j.)

If you really believe it is worth discussing, then do so. I only read the
articles in the thread if they look a) short or b) long, but original 
(ie, not 90% quoted material).

>>  I would, however, like to be much 
>>better informed about current events in Japan
>
>   Agreed.
>
>> and am always disappointed 
>>that headlines from the papers or other current issues are not discussed 
>>in as much detail as I'd like to have.
>
>   Limited availability of the information on Japan might be one reason why
>we sometimes cannot go in detail.

Perhaps we could ask those participants currently living in Japan to 
occasionally post things from the papers or news that might be of interest.

Well, Mr Harckom? Anything good in the press these days?

Mike
-- 
Disclaimer - I'm only doing what the little voices tell me to do.
From: tobac@ub-tky.UBSPD.CO.JP (Bach Frederic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese Major Suggests Military Coup:Your Opinion? (mod. long)
Keywords: 'democracy' in Japan
Date: 6 Nov 92 06:48:58 GMT
Organization: UBS Phillips & Drew Int'l Ltd., Tokyo

In article <1992Nov3.175303.4143@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:

[]I agree, but I see a recurrent problem with the distribution of representatives.Given that a vote in some rural areas is worth up to 7 times that of a vote
in certain areas of Osaka and Tokyo,

First point : the discrepancy is less than 1 to 4, I don't remember exactly,
maybe around 1 to 3.5. Second point : if I remember properly, the two
districts with the least number of voters per representative were actually
one in Tokyo (central Tokyo where there are mostly offices) and one in
either Kanagawa or Chiba prefecture.
-- 
    __  _    
** ||_ /_| **   Fred "I'll be" Bach               (tobac@ub-tky.UBSPD.CO.JP) 
** || /__| **   [Je suis athee, Dieu merci.]          Tel. 813-3597-1595

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: miklg@acuson.com (Michael Goldman )
Subject: Re: Japanese Major Suggests Military Coup: Your Opinion? (mod. long)
Keywords: 'democracy' in Japan
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:41:53 GMT

hank@westford.ccur.com (Hank Cohen) writes:

>The main problem
>for the opposition parties is that the Kaifu plan proposed eliminating
>all multi-seat constituencies.  In many districts there are three or
>four seats selected by a plurality of the popular vote.  The top three
>vote getters will get seats and the rest loose.  Most of the seats of
>the opposition parties are in such constituencies.  So what happens,
>usually there are two LDP candidates and a host of minor party
>candidates.  The LDP candidates spend all of their money running
>against each other while the opposition candidates hover around like
>hyenas at a lion's picnic waiting to pick up the remaining scraps.  So
>the result is that huge amounts of money are spend by the LDP mostly
>to run against itself while the opposition parties are relegated to a
>position of prepetual inferiority because they never develop the local
>power base to win a campaign outright.  It is because of this rather
>topsy turvy situation that you find the liberal ostensibly progressive
>parties all opposing election reform and the most corrupt ward heelers
>like Shin Kanemaru, Ozawa and the entire Takeshita faction supporting
>it.

	My information (also from the Economist") is that to satisfy the
	other parties a more powerful upper house will be made up of
	representatives chosen by party in proportion to their national
	popular vote.  This is like Germany's system, I believe.

	- Michael Goldman

-- 
"History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have
exhausted all other alternatives." - Abba Eban
	Disclaimer:  All views are solely my own & not the views of Acuson.
	<sun!sono!miklg>  or  [miklg@acuson.com]
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: Sat,  7 Nov 1992 21:41:22 -0500 
From: Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Mr. Richmond.
	<BxBJ8v.A0q@world.std.com>
Distribution: soc

Mr. Richmond,

                  Do you believe that every white person is the same?
Why do you insist that racism against Asians in American does not exist?
If you were to check out s.c.a.a. you would hear this often. But, as it
seemsand since you are familiar with Japanese culture, you feel that you
can phycholoical make other Japanese feel that I am the Monster. That I
am the "Bad guy"! It seems that anytime the a japanese strongely opposes
"your" a racist, a Jap! Well, it dosen't work this time. You say that
I'm using Young Yoshi! I don't need a child to expressed the truth about
the racist evils of your culture. I live it each and every fu*king day.
I wish that you would say that to my face you f*&king D*ckhe*d! Your
culture killed Yoshi, not a gun. That gun laid whereever it was until a
person pick it up and uses it. It may as well been a Guild de sac. Now
if I were a racist I could cut you down and your culture down. But, I
have respect for the American People that's right even your sorry a**.
People like you want to make the excuse that, "If there were no guns, a
thing like this wouldn't have happen". STOP LYING TO MY PEOPLE! Why are
you protecting this murdered-Child killer! Some of you went so far as to
compare this with Mr Geotz. You fools! Bennard Geotz was getting robbed
by a group of hoods in a dark New York subway. How is it possible that
Young Yoshi and his young friend be mistaken for five or six young
adults in New York. Just like the police wouldn't arrest and to a
certain extent protect this Killer-you also say that this was a
mistake-an acciddent! He did mean to do it. He said he was sorry.
"Wished the gun would have back-fired"! Yea, right! O.K.. And, the Jews
weren't put in the gassed!   You are dispicable! 
  
                                                                    You
should change your ways and join the mainstrean of the world realisttic
thought.
Personally, When I heard this story I thought the individual was black.
I know many Black Americans with this last name. When I saw his picture
in the papers, I was surpised that he was white. Then I remembered that
African Slaves were given their master's names. it shouldn't have
surprised me that he was White. The White American media is often
deceiving when it come to racial issue.
From: ynakazato@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: KanjiTalk
Date: 13 Nov 92 22:52:46 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

In article <1dv3r3INNapl@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, keis@psy.uwa.oz.au (Keis Ohtsuka) writes:
> Haitong Wang <s209457@cc.gettysburg.edu> writes:
> 
>>Does anyone know whether KanjiTalk is available through FTP or not?
> 
> I doubt it since KanjiTalk is a copyrighted software program.
> 

	I would like to make some comments about this:

	1) As far as I know, all Apple OS, whether KanjiTalk
	or not, is copyrighted.
	2) The FTP site FTP.APPLE.COM has not KanjiTalk (any
	version).

	Thus, about these two points, Mr/Ms Ohtsuka is right.
	However, in CD-ROMs which came with APDA's "develop"
	KanjiTalk was included -- until version 6.07, I guess.
	So,if you can find some who has older issues of 
	"develop" you can get KanjiTalk free of charge -- just
	like older US OS (Until 7.01).

	Unfortunately, Apple (or Apple Japan) has decided to 
	sell KanjiTalk, just like Apple here to charge for
	system 7.1. Therefore, it is impossible, or rather
	illegal, to get a copy of KanjiTalk from, say, your
	friend.

	I think my info is correct. Any verification?

	One way around this is to use the US system 7.0 or 7.01
	(depending on your Mac) plus GomTalk. GomTalk is a free
	patch to use Japanese on the US system 7.0x. You can get
	both free, and still you can use Japanese on you Mac.

	Y. Nakazato
	Chinese/Japanese Dept
	Georgetown University

  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: bam@bnr.ca (Bruce Matsugu 1629654)
Subject: Re: internment camps
Organization: bnr
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 14:16:47 GMT

[Please don asbestos suit.]
In article <1dq3mrINNs7n@agate.berkeley.edu> robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:
>Japanese Americans were interned for their own protection from lynchings.

Yeah, right! And who was doing the "lynching"?

>The proof lies in the fact that in Hawaii, where the climate was more tolerant,
>Japanese Americans were left in normal standing. 

What happened in Hawaii with respect to Japanese-Americans?

>  Asian American authors
>like to convey a message that they encountered unique prejudices, but the
>fact is that during WW I & II, Italian- and German-Americans were kept
>under surveillance or otherwise jailed as well, upon suspicion of contributing
>to the enemy.

Asian-Canadian authors too! (And rightly so, IMHO.)
Imprisonment is slightly different that surveillance. In Canada, people
were transported by rail and truck to isolated internment camps in the
interior of British Columbia. Japanese-Canadians also had all of their
property confiscated by the Canadian Government and later sold without
the owners' consent.

>  This Asian American literature is the dying throes of a
>small demographic group, no more than a million, headed for extinction as
>each generation passes.  So I do not consider it worthy of literary clasification.
>By following the way Asian American authors think, Serbs and Croats would
>be justfied to kill each other until not a single one of them was left.
>
And you Americans wonder why your insensitive attitude infuriates 
so many other people!

[Okay, it's safe now. I've extinguished my flame thrower. :-) ]


---
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Bell Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,talk.politics.guns
From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Subject: Re: Japanese exchange student killed in Louisiana...
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:55:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov05.132009.33410@watson.ibm.com> mjp@vnet.ibm.com (Michael J. Phelps) writes:
>
>In article <Bx8224.HMG@ncifcrf.gov>, masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:
>|> In article <1992Nov4.185308.8461@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:
>|> >In article <Bx6oH8.IFM@ncifcrf.gov> masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:
>|> >>   It is illegal to drive a car without a license. ...
>|> >
>|> >It's only illegal to drive it without a license if you are on public property.
>|> 
>|>   Can you run over someone in the next door when you are driving in your 
>|> private property?
>
>Yes, you can.
>
>|>   Can you shoot someone in the next door when you are handling your gun in your
>|> private property?
>
>Yes, but only after violating several of the most basic firearm safety rules.

>So whats the point?

   I'm afraid that I picked a wrong example, which led to your confusion.
Please raplace "next door" with "city park behind your house."

   In most cases, a car can kill/injure people only at the same place where it
exists.

   On the other hand, a firearm can kill someone distant from the weapon.

   In other words, as long as someone drives a car in the private property,
he/she cannot run over someone in the public property. Once he/she drives into
a public property without a license, it would be illegal.

   It is possible for someone to shoot another in the public property
from his/her private property either intentionally or accidentally. 

   Driving a car requires a license at least for using it in the public
place. Possession of firearms doesn't require a training nor a license
wherever you may use it.

Michiaki Masuda
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,talk.politics.guns