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From: thuang@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Tze-yau Huang)
Subject: Re: The Six-Year National Development Plan for Taiwan, "R.O.C"
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:22:49 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.200723.18183@cs.yale.edu> horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne) writes:
 >In article <1992Apr9.180501.13730@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, thuang@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Tze-yau Huang) writes:
 ><Just curious, have the ROC state been the legal government of Taiwan for
 ><about forty years in the first half of this century?
 >
 >What did I just say?  Please note especially the underlined parts above.
 >
 >					--Scott
So you says that the ROC state has been the legal government of Taiwan
for about forty years in the first half of this century.

What is your answer to the following passage?

	The "Republic of China" proclaimed on 1 January 1912 had never
governed  Formosa.  The island had been ceded to Japan in 1895 by Ch'ing
rulers, who, in the previous three centuries, had sometimes managed to
establish control over some parts of the island, and had declared it a
province only seven years before.  We are not aware of any ROC claims of
Formosa prior to the Japanese invasion of mainland Asia in 1937.  Both
Sun Yat-Sen and Mao Zhedong advocated independence for Formosa before
Japan invaded the mainland.  In 1945 Japan surrendered unconditionally.
It did not "retrocede" to the ROC or to any other specific government.
Which troops occupied which surrendered territory was decided by the
Allies.  The US provided ROC forces transport to both Manchuria and
Formosa, where very similar looting and treatment of the native
population as a conquered people followed.

Tze-yau Huang

Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: chang@cmb00.larc.nasa.gov (Chau-Lyan Chang)
Subject: Re: HSNU needs you!
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 22:08:51 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.195900.19674@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>, yu@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (meng-lin.mark.yu) writes:
|> 
|> Well, I believe they had bao tsong students or mechanism in the fifties
|> and sixties.  They have it now too (well at least 2 years ago); don't know when

   Now, I remember there were some bao tsong students (spouse of diplomats).
   But, still I do not recall any students entered Jian Zong through a
   gifted program or something like that. This reminds me that the rugby
   (the non-American football) team of Jian Zong used to be #1 in the
   nation. And then it fell because good rugby players could not enter
   through bao tsong scheme (one other main reason was because of the
   removal of the junior high of Jian Zong).

|> it restarted. Considering that they want to abandon the extrance exam and
|> allow students to jump grades, I won't be surprised to know if they restarted
|> this quite a few years back, thou I never understand the argument for it.
|> 
|> Here is my contemporaries.  You sure we didn't meet each other before?

   Maybe we met each other at the old time (around 1973-1976 ?).
   Some talked about good old time in Jian Zong. I'd like to say "everything
   was so great when we look back knowing that we shall never return" (Some
   one else's word, I don't remember who). To me, the time in Jian Zong
   was an unforgettable part in my life. Good? Bad? It's not so important.
                                  Chau-Lyan Chang
|> 
|> Meng-Lin 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: Be like Scott!!
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 16:26:50 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.111104.5090@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> thuang@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Tze-yau Huang) writes:
>In article <10APR199222022720@oregon.uoregon.edu> kuolin@oregon.uoregon.edu (Yeong-Kuo Lin) writes:
>>The great Great GREAT country. China. People Republic of China. Who make
>>the most powerful weapon. The country who own the most powerful nuclear
>>bomb. Who could destroy the earth easily. I prefer American take me as a
  ^^^^ America might                                 ^^^^^^^^^ Why only American ? 
      be the first and                               We chinese too will call you
      the last country                               whatever you like to be .
      ever using this                                   
      crazy weapon .
>>japaness, not Chinese. Because Japaness mean Toyota, walkman, VCR. Something
                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ And
    300,000 killing of civilians in Nanking , in 30 * 24 * 60 * 60 seconds .
    The work was done as a " competition " . The efficiency was comparable with Nazi's .

>>don't feel so terrible. Chinese mean weapon, killing students.
                          ??????????????????????????????????????
                          ??????????????????????????????????????
                          ?????????????????????????????????????????
                          ????????????????????????????????????????? 
                          ???????????????????????????????????????? Are you serious ?

>>I prefer prefer as a Japaness. furthermore, Taiwanness is also good. 
>>Chinese always make people to relate Killing students, weapons.
  ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
  ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
  ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
  ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
  ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
   If you are a gentleman/lady , please don't abuse your image .

>
>Don't speck nonsense at the corner of the street.  Be confident about

Forgive him once .

>the Han heritage and never assume that a Han will choose not to be proud
     ^^^ I would say chinese here         ^^^ here too 

  Chinese culture is so profound that no one can ignore its greatness , even if there 
are a lot of things to improve . If someone don't want to be a chinese , I would 
rather say :" Go ahead , and good luck ." But if someone use the above kind of words to
insult our people as a whole , instead of at myself personaly , that is a big mistake .

>of it.
>
>Tze-yau Huang
>


Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: Most Ridiculous ? (Re: The Six-Year National Development Plan for Taiwan, "R.O.C")
Keywords: No
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 00:46:59 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.083352.5563@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> thuang@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Tze-yau Huang) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.185959.9672@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>>>>  3. How much of the gold reserve was transfered to Taiwan through warships ? 
>Would you please tell me how much?  Well, the KMT state just carried

Please read Luc's recent article . 

>their properties with them even if they lost the real estate and slaves.
>KMT also stole a lot in Taiwan from poors and riches.  Together with the
>state of ROC, KMT owns half of Taiwan in the business sense.  It is
>really hard to say whether Taiwan has been benefitted by the fact that
>KMT moved their booty to Taiwan.  After all, Taiwan is just one of KMT's
>booty.
>
>Tze-yau Huang
>
>


Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: cyeh@descartes.waterloo.edu (Woody)
Subject: Re: to proud citizens
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 13:59:27 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.081025.4303@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> thuang@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Tze-yau Huang) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.131959.18649@descartes.waterloo.edu> cyeh@descartes.waterloo.edu (Woody) writes:
>>
>>	Is NAZI a party or government or a country?
>>
>The NAZI party was a party.
>The NAZI state was a government.
>The NAZI represented the country.
>         ^^^^^^^^^^^
>Tze-yau Huang 

	Bingo! "Represented" != "Is Equal To". German call their country
	as Deutcshland, no matter if it is under NAZI's control. I don't
	think there is any German is still proud of NAZI. But I believe
	MOST GERMAN PEOPLE ARE PROUD OF DEUTSCHLAND. My friend, maybe you
	are really sick of KMT. How ever, Republic of China is our country.
	Please don't mix it up with KMT. Let's be proud of our COUNTRY, ok?
	:)
-- 
         Ruo4 Shue3 San1 Qian1, Zhi3 Qyu3 Yi4 Piao2 Ying3.
(Althought Ruo4 river is very long, what I drink is only one cup.)

        Ye4, Zhong1 Yi4 (Woody)     Another Kaohsiung Dude.
From: cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: John Ho
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:19:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: transfer.1903
Reply-To: cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com ()
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Hardware Engineering

This posting is in response to Mr. John Ho's on the subject of 
dating girls.

I didn't mean to comment negatively on your encouragement to CJ's
effort to be more proactive in dating girls.  It was my lack of
knowledge of the context of your conversation that led to such 
indiscretion.

Well, you may continue to answer my question, in its entirety.
(Especially the last sentence.)

"I am short and ugly.  But I have a kind heart.  Does that help? 
Not in this electronic age where things move in the speed of light."

D.C.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
From: steven@dlb.com (Steven Tsowen Chiang)
Subject: Re: The Six-Year National Development Plan for Taiwan, "R.O.C"
Organization: D.L.Buck & Associates, Inc.; San Jose, Calif.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:06:05 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.003446.16021@cs.yale.edu> horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne) writes:
>In article <92098.175400WSCHEN@twnmoe10.edu.tw>, Wen-Sung Chen <WSCHEN@twnmoe10.edu.tw> writes:
><
><      The Six-Year National Development Plan for Taiwan
><              Republic of China (1991-1996)
>
>Wrong.  The Republic of China lasted for almost forty years, not just five.

I guess you are joking.  The figures in parentheses mean the period of 
this plan.  In fact, ROC has been founded for more than eighty years, 
not just forty.

>
><The outstanding economic achievements won by the government of the
><Republic of China on Taiwan over the past 40 years
>
>What "economic achievements" has the GOVERNMENT of the so-called "ROC"
>in Taiwan made?!  I can't think of one.

You can't think of one becaues you are not familiar with Taiwan, ROC.
I guess you only know PRC lasts for forty years.

>
><and the
><"Taiwan experience" is widely admired and emulated by other
><developing countries.
>
>Name one.

One of the most important experience is the agriculture development
which established a solid basis for Taiwan's industry development.
Many agriculture experts have been sent to different developing 
countries to help them to develop their own agriculture.

>
><We have compiled this little booklet to help our own people and
><our friends around the world
>
>What "friends around the world" does the so-called "ROC" have?  Good ole
>South Africa and south Korea--that's about all.  And I certainly wouldn't want
>to call those sleazes my only friends.
>

Certainly they are not sleazy.

I don't think there is real friendship among countries.  Real friendship 
exists only among people.  One is shortsighted if one only recognizes the 
people of the countries which have formal diplomatic relation with one's 
country as friends.  

>-- 
>Scott Horne                               ...!{harvard,cmcl2,decvax}!yale!horne
>horne@cs.Yale.edu      SnailMail:  Box 7196 Yale Station, New Haven, CT   06520
>203 436-1848                Residence:  Rm 1848 Silliman College, New Haven, CT
>ZANG4 HAN4 YI4 JIA1 / GONG4 JIAN4 ZHONG1HUA2!

-- 
       Steven T. Chiang || steven@dlb.com || {netcomsv, zygot}!dlb!steven
       DISCLAIMER: Views presented herein are mine exclusively and do not 
      necessarily represent anyone else's, including those of my employer.
From: ykhsu@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (yung-kao.hsu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Control?! (The Six-Year...)
Date: 17 Apr 92 12:31:35 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

>In article <1992Apr15.215629.9888@sbcs.sunysb.edu> hsiang@sbhsiang.cs.sunysb.edu (J. Hsiang) writes:
>>
>>Since Ms. lko no longer has the convenient excuse such as "still in school",
>>I don't see anything wrong with challenging her to put her money where her
>>mouth is.
>>


	Since I skip most of "political" stuffs unless it is really short,
	I did not see the above message the first time around.

	Personally, I think statement like that is very unnecessary.
	I certain disagree many things with lko, but her (I am making
	a genda assumption here) career decision does not have to do with 
	her political belief and voicing her criticism. Unless she devotes
	herself to be a politican and make public of that, such a challenge
	is pretty bleak.
 
Yung-Kao Hsu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: xwang@ug.cs.dal.ca (Roland (Xinlei) Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Gin Jong fans' chellenge!! (was Re: The Six-Year National ...)
Date: 12 Apr 92 19:31:48 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

In article <1992Apr10.191242.18843@watserv1.waterloo.edu> ptyshih@watnow.waterloo.edu (Paul T.Y. Shih (Taku or Pear)) writes:
>	
>	After I came over here and talked with some friends from mainland,
>	I realized that we don't really know the whole situation there.
>	Lots of news we heard weren't exactly true. But the thing is that
>	NOBODY wants to go there and find out the truth, not even you
>	people from there. Further more, what is truth anyways? Do you
>	think that what you know is exactly true even though you are from
>	that place? Sorry, no intention of offence.
>
        You are right, I also haven't known that much about this things, 
	although I am coming from that place. Actually, I really don't 
	want to know. But the point here is that I will not make so much
	comments to things I don't know exactly, what do you think? 

	I like Gin Yong's novels and read them many times. But I that could
	give you ideas about everything. I don't think that's a good idea 
	to find someone in his novels to represent someone else in the world.
	You know, that is only novel. That's my opinio, thanks.


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From: pcli@uivlsi.csl.uiuc.edu (Ping-Chung Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: HSNU needs you!
Date: 17 Apr 1992 04:04:37 GMT
Organization: Coordinated Science Lab., University of Illinois
NNTP-Posting-Host: uivlsi.csl.uiuc.edu

In article <92107.151538U49110@uicvm.uic.edu> <U49110@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>
>     Second, almost everyday when I took the bus Lin2-Don1 ? (zero-east ?)

	Sorry, I just can not help but respond when I saw "Lin2-Don1". I
was living near the start bus station of Lin2-Don1.(Ming2-shen1-sheh4-chiu1)
Every morning I just sat on the bus, enjoyed watching all the students getting
on the bus on every stop. Sometimes felt sorry for the students who could not 
get on because the bus driver did not stop. Hate to read textbook on bus, it's
harmful to eyes. Maybe I also saw you on Lin-Don, I am good at memorizing faces.
8-)
	Talking about Lin-Don, I heard a shiang4-shen1, in which Wei4 lung2
hao2 (maybe him) mentioned Lin-Don is the most useful bus in Taipei, wherever
you want to go, Lin-Don can take you there. Although this is a bit exaggerated,
Lin-Don does cover much area of Taipei, Last year they even extended Lin-Don
to Don-Hu (in Nei4 Hu2 Chiu1), it's great, my family just moved to Nei Hu.8-)

>     anyway, some bus routing throug Tsong2-Ching4-South Road,  there
>     were always some (I'm talking about 2 or 3) Bei3-Yau1-ers didn't
>     get off the bus at Taipei FGHS stop where they were supposed to get off.
>     Instead, they waited for two more stops and got off the bus at Jain4-Zon1
>     stop with "me". Well, intresting finding -- 8-)  How observant I was !!
>
>     Remen Lin, Dept. of ME, UI Chicago

Ping
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 14 Apr 1992 11:44:06 CDT
From: Sandy Yeh <U53298@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: HSNU needs you!
 <1992Apr13.202045.22500@watserv1.waterloo.edu>
 <1992Apr14.100425.2943@vax.muskingum.edu>

In my opinion, Taipei First Girl's High is *THE* best high school in Taiwan.
I don't think we should be humble in this matter. :-)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: cyeh@descartes.waterloo.edu (Woody)
Subject: Re: Control?! (The Six-Year...)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 13:44:23 GMT

In article <Apr.13.22.38.46.1992.15290@math.rutgers.edu> lko@math.rutgers.edu (lko) writes:
>
>    Leaving aside questions on the correctness, how does the above
>show that most people in Taiwan proudly regard themselves as citizen
>of R.O.C.? Please elaborate. 
>lehhun

	Sorry for not being able to provide a straight forward proof.
What I would like to say is "I, myself is proud of being a cityzen of R.O.C."
I also believe others from Taiwan think in the same way as I do. Unless they
have lost their mine. One from Taiwan can hate KMT, can hate R.O.C.'s govern-
ment. But please notice. Unless we change the name of our country, R.O.C.
represents not only our government, but also the land, the people. To be more
specific, R.O.C. means mainland, Taiwan, and their cityzen. That including
me, my mother, my father, my grandmothers, my grandfathers, my brothers, my
sisters, my friends..... I think every R.O.C. cityzen is proud of being its
cityzen.


--
From: bbs@medsys.rn.com (Public BBS System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: HOLO language. Re: Question??????
Date: 6 Apr 92 03:30:28 GMT
Reply-To: bbs@medsys.UUCP (Public BBS System)
Distribution: na
Organization: Med-Systems, Kingsport, Tennessee

In article <1992Apr4.9394.9394@cel.SRI.COM> hsieh@cel.SRI.COM (Mark Hsieh) writes:
>
>>Also there are several dialects in Hakka. In Taiwan the two major Hakka
>>dialects are Hai3 Lu4 and Si4 Xiang4. There are some difference in accent
>>between these two but Hakka people can understand with little effort. They
>>may not be able to speak the other one though.
>>
>>Comrade Hsieh, let me ask you a question. Is there a Hakka dialect which
>>is considered as the ORTHODOX Hakka?
>>
>The above sounds like Greek to me. 
>Comrade Chou1, this time you're asking a wrong guy.
>
Hi, Comrade Hsieh, I thought you spoke Hakka. If you don't speak Hakka,
why did you say that there was great similarity betwenn Cantonese/Hakka?

Comrade Chou1
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: thuang@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Tze-yau Huang)
Subject: Re: HSNU needs you!
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 07:40:47 GMT

>In article <92105.114406U53298@uicvm.uic.edu>, U53298@uicvm.uic.edu (Sandy Yeh) writes:
>> In my opinion, Taipei First Girl's High is *THE* best high school in Taiwan.
>> I don't think we should be humble in this matter. :-)

So what?  There won't be a TFGH after HS turns co-ed.  It will be
interesting to see that happen.

Tze-Yau Huang


Xref: sparky soc.culture.taiwan:7167 soc.culture.china:12379
From: joe@astro.as.utexas.edu (Joe Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: One country, two governments ?
Date: 25 Mar 92 22:32:28 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
Organization: McDonald Observatory, University of Texas @ Austin

In article <qmk1dINNhn1@agate.berkeley.edu> tyhuang@ocf.berkeley.edu (Tze-yau Huang) writes:

me>(a false argument for TI)
me>TI: Are PRC and ROC different "countries" (international law definition)
me>me: Yes they are different "countries" (international law definition)
me>TI: See he says that PRC and ROC are different "countries" (TI definition)

>3. There is land-based nationalsim advocated by independence supporters.
>4. The fact that both nation and state are defined separately but
>   simultaneously cannot be viewed as the confusion of the two.

If you wish to argue that separate states must be composed of separate
nations, then do it.  The problem is that the above TI "argument" is
not an argument but simply an assertion.

>Well, two things are promoted:
>	Normalization of Taiwan's Sovereign Statehood
>	Amplification of Taiwan Consciousness (land-based nationalism)

EXACTLY MY POINT!!!!! 

Two completely different things are being promoted.  I have no problem
with the first thing.  It's the second that I reject.  TIers tend to
assume that the second follows naturally from the first, but it
doesn't.

What I'm promoting is:
	Normalization of Taiwan's Sovereign Statehood
	Amplification of Chinese Consciousness
	Reduction of land/state-based nationalism

It's different.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: nickh@CS.CMU.EDU (Nick Haines)
Subject: Re: When must general elections be held?
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 20:32:13 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
	<1992Apr13.171236.6290@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Originator: nickh@VOILA.VENARI.CS.CMU.EDU

In article <1992Apr13.171236.6290@cl.cam.ac.uk> gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry) writes:

   In article <1992Apr13.160725.18826@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> pjs@euclid.jpl.nasa.gov writes:
   >Would someone explain the parliamentary rules governing when
   >general elections are held?  I know that usually the governing
   >party gets to call the shots, unless they lose a vote of no
   >confidence, but there must be more to it than that, or else
   >a party with a huge majority could stay in power indefinitely.

   Parliament lasts for a maximum of five years.

Yes, but unless I misunderstood the original post, it was asking how
this five year figure was decided, and why it cannot be changed by
Parliament. If Labour policy is to change the constitution so
radically as to abolish the Lords and LibDems want to introduce PR,
then clearly some parts of the `how parliament is elected and what
powers it has' rules are decided by Parliament. So what's to stop the
Tories from deciding that this `5 years' should be changed to, say,
`5000 years'?

I know they can't, but is the Royal Assent the only thing stopping them?

Nick Haines nickh@cs.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir)
Subject: Re: The Vogon News Service: 08-Apr-92
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:30:11 GMT

Alan Buchanan writes:

	Francis Muir writes:

		Bill Clinton looks better every day, but he needs 
		a pacemaker. 

	Have you been watching the pictures I have? And they claimed that 
	it was only fatigue and laryngitis.

I wish I could so mis-speak more often. 

	William Butler Yeats writes:

        	Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting 
		of a fire.

You have to wonder where Yeats -- or Buchanan for that matter -- went
to school.

						Francis Muir

francis@sep.stanford.edu
From: guy@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Questions on the election
Date: 12 Apr 92 15:50:28 GMT
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK

migod@turing.toronto.edu (Mike Godfrey) writes:

>-- What kind of seat did Glenda Jackson win (was it traditionally a 
>   marginal/strong Labour/LibDem/Tory seat)?

Hampstead and Highgate was previously a Tory marginal. 

>-- Who defeated Gerry Adams and from what party?  What was Adams' plurality
>   last time around?  Any ideas on what this represents?

Dr Joe Hendron of the SDLP.  This was almost certainly due to tactical
voting by the small Unionist community in West Belfast, since Adams' share
of the vote remained virtually unchanged.

>-- What was the "conservative newspaper" that endorsed Labour this time
>   around?  The local news didn't identify it.

The Financial Times.








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