From: rolando@castle.ed.ac.uk (S.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Puerto Rico News Update
Date: 6 Jan 93 22:11:02 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <20722@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu writes:
>nyxfer!nicanet (NicaNet NY) Via NY Transfer News Collective write:
>>PUERTO RICO NEWS
>[...]
>This proves that the Federal Government is the enforcer of pollution controls 
>on the island, and if PR would be independent, the new patriots which now get 
>3% of the vote would turn the island into a latrine, a la northern Mexico.
>

Before posting silly comments as the previous, a real thinker will
wonder in the first place which is the nationality of those patriots
that have been turning the puertorican island into a latrine up to
now. Answer: AMERICANS.

Who did the same to northern Mexico? Ans: AMERICANS.

At least this time they are cleaning their own house. (But it will not
surprise me if I later learn they are doing so --in a cynical action--
in order to press other countries to do the same but they will not
provide help. They will only press with sanctions)

As I said before, the acts of (some) americans are to blame for the
hard feelings people from other countries have against them.

And just to show how in the USA society there are people that
criticise the american interventionist actions, I'm copying part of
some postings I found in soc.culture.usa (without the authors' consent).


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(Kevin Giansante) writes:

(Gerry Palo) writes, in part:

>However, I agree, most of our interventions in recent years and
>decades would probably better have been omitted.  Yet how can
>you look at the conditions in Somalia and just pontificate away
>about the relative value of human life?  Because we botched the
>job in Iraq and propped up the Kuwaiti royal family, must we now
>just leave the people of Somalia to their own fate?


One other thing, Gerry: We didn't just "botch the job" in Iraq. 
We killed a lot of innocent people there, just as we have done
all of over the world.  I tend to think that our actively and
directly causing those deaths puts "the job" in Iraq in a
different moral class from the inaction I advocate in regard to
Somalia.




ANOTER POSTING SAYS:

Subject: Part 7,  Within America's Soul, Hitler is Victorious

     From former Attorney-General of the United States, Ramsey Clark:
*   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *

     President Bush consistently rejected and ridiculed Iraq's
efforts to negotiate a peaceful resolution, beginning with Iraq's
[...]
     President Bush led a sophisticated campaign to demonize Saddam
Hussein, calling him a Hitler, repeatedly citing reports of the
murder of hundreds of incubator babies he knew were false,
[...]
knowing U.S. intelligence believed the reports untrue.
[...]
     3.   President Bush ordered the destruction of 
          facilities essential to civilian life and
          economic productivity throughout Iraq.
          _________________________________________
[...]
 The U.S.
assault left Iraq in a "near apocalyptic condition", as reported 
by the first United Nations observers after the war.  Among the
facilities targeted and destroyed were:

     --   electric power generation, relay and transmission,

     --   water treatment, pumping and distribution systems and
          reservoirs,
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Edelmiro (the self proclaimed champion of USA) was complaining that we
---in s.c.l-a--- blame USA of many problems that have arisen from the
USA intervention in the region. But reallity is even worst, as many
USA citizens recognize their government actions --in the whole
world-- are the real reason to blame as they have provoked the angry
response of people from all around the world against USA!

If Edelmiro wants this situation to stop he should be trying to fix
the source of the problem, I mean USA's government actions against
other countries.

In a related matter, I recall myself pointing out in a previous
posting that USA was manipulating the UN. And saying that this will
bring moral problems for UN. The result of that action has become
clear this week in the way the UN's General Secretary has been blamed
in Ethiopia, and former Yugoslavia.

Last but no least, remember, the acts of (some) americans are to blame
for the hard feelings people from other countries have against them.
I think americans (government) could had expent much better those
thousands of billions of dollars they expent on deadly weapons to
support right goverments, in doing more constructive things as creating
new jobs in those countries instead of providing weapons for the
destruction of the people.

peacefully :-)

Rolando