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From: blais@ut-emx.uucp (Donald Blais)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Cultural contributions and religous claims
Date: 15 Sep 92 01:30:58 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin; Austin, Texas

In article <1992Sep8.163731.445@altair.selu.edu> pmf$1349@altair.selu.edu writes:
>	As usual all of Blais's references try hard to proof that the
>Arab or Islamic thoughts were never leaders in world civilization all the way 
>down to the Mesopotamian times. How articulate he presents the facts (his 
>version of the facts).

On the contrary, the long history of civilization in the Middle-East
should be a point of pride to the people of that part of the world.
The contributions Arab and non-Arab are rightly treasured by all as
part of the common human cultural heritage.  Western civilization has
roots in ancient European and in Arab/Muslim civilization and likewise
the Arab/Muslim civilization has roots in the civilizations that
preceded it.  The book by Denise Schmandt-Besserat, Before Writing,
documents what is known about the very beginnings of written history.

>	By the way, we still haven't heared ur answer about the books
>recommended by SRI readers about the history of Embryology.  Or maybe
>u only believe in the references that 'you' choose and want to impose
>it on others.

What books would that be?  The books by Maurice Bucaille comparing the
Bible and the Qur'an are no more scientific than similar books by other
religious apologists.  They are on par with books by Josh McDowell.

Keith Moore in two introductory texts, Before We Are Born, and The
Developing Human, properly mentions the embryological references of
the Qur'an in reviewing the historical background.  In a 1986 article
Moore wrote for The Journal of IMA he provides more detail.  Moore
includes Joseph Needham's book A History of Embryology among his
references.  (Thank-you to the reader who contributed the name Keith
Moore the last time this subject surfaced.)  Moore quotes Newton, "If
I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants."

The reader who mentioned Keith Moore also mentioned the name `Abd
al-Majid Zindani.  He has authored Tawhid al-Khaliq.  The book is
written in Arabic.  The title translates as Unity (or Oneness) of
Creation.  It is correctly classified as a religious text.

The embryological references in the Qur'an are highly noteworthy.  Are
the references evidence of divine authorship or are they evidence that
Muhammad was often well informed in the knowledge of the day?  Science
itself does not admit revelation as a source of knowledge.  Individual
scientists, however, may and do hold to a variety of religious beliefs.
-- 
Donald E. Blais             Internet: blais@utexas.edu
Computation Center          Bitnet:   blais@utxvms
University of Texas         UUCP:     uunet!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!blais
Austin, TX 78712            Phone:    +1 512-471-6387 +1 512-471-3241 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: pssres12@ucs.usl.edu (Vignes Gerard M)
Subject: Clinton and the Mideast
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 17:57:26 GMT

	Bill Clinton promises
	to put America back on Israel's side.

	It shouldn't be too hard
	to figure out what he means
	by being "back on Israel's side."

	If you're a US citizen,
	please register while there's still time
	and please get out and vote.

	If you're a foreign national applying for citizenship,
	please coax your friends who can to register and vote.

	Don't just stand by doing nothing,
	and let Clinton turn the clock back to the Carter years.

-- 

pssres12@ucs.usl.edu	Gerard Vignes, USL PO Box 42709, Lafayette LA 70504 USA
From: hermi@shape.mps.ohio-state.edu (Lotfi Hermi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Test 7
Date: 10 Sep 1992 00:27:47 -0400
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: shape.mps.ohio-state.edu

___________________________________________________________
Khalifatun fi qafassin bayna baghi-in wa fata
		Yaqulu ma' Qa'la lahu kama taqulu al-babagha
------------------------------------------------------------
Does this sound familiar to any situation you know if today :)
------------------------------------------------------------

Off course
Lotfi Diwana


Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen)
Subject: Re: ISLAMIC WORLD NEWS (28th)
Organization: Motorola Panther Project, Chandler, AZ
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 22:49:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.153101.13430@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> wmuhanna@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waleed A Muhanna) writes:
>In article <1992Sep10.180610.27927@panther.mot.com> ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep10.142547.10563@cbfsb.cb.att.com> mmokhtar@attmail.com (Mazen Mokhtar) writes:
>>>In article <1992Sep5.202436.20084@nysernet.org> astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein) writes:
>>....
>>
>>As for the WB and Gaza, Israel has been trying to give it back since the 70's.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Unadulterated stinking hogwash, an insult to the intelligence of the readers
>of this newsgroup.  Either you are completely misinformed or willfully lying.
>Now which is it, Ron?
>
>Tell you what, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and
>challenge you to provide any shred of evidence to support your assertion.   
>So, put up or shut up, Ron!  

After Camp David Israel offered automony to the WB/Gaza the PLO
et al turn it down out of hand.  The opted to continue their struggle to
destroy Israel.

Yes, things have gotten out of hand in the WB/Gaza.  However the Infatada/PLO
terrorism certainly play a factor.  All parties involved "have blood on their
hands".

If in 67' the Palastineans had accepted autonomy and stopped their constant
terrorist attacks, there wouldn't be such a terrible situation in the WB.

>
>Waleed Muhanna
>-=-
>"the man dies in all who keep silent in the face of tyranny"
>			Wole Soyinka, Nobel Laureate.
>


-- 

>
Ron Feigen
ronf@panther.mot.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: hermi@shape.mps.ohio-state.edu (Lotfi Hermi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re:Test 8 (correction)
Date: 10 Sep 1992 00:37:53 -0400
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: shape.mps.ohio-state.edu

La tasqini maa al-hayatti bi-thilatin
		Bal fasqini bil-izzi kaisa (not maa) al-hanthali
Ma'o al-hayati bithilatin ka-jahanami
		Wa jahannamou bil-'izzi atyaba manzili

Abdullah Lotfi Diwana
From: benali@alcor.concordia.ca ( ILYESS B. BDIRA )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Muslim students of humanities
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:40:31 GMT
Distribution: usa

martillo@nero.clearpoint.com (Joachim Martillo) writes:

>In article <benali.716142832@alcor> benali@alcor.concordia.ca ( ILYESS B. BDIRA ) writes:

>>Actually in some countries (such as Tunisia), there are atheists and
>>communists who go to the school of theology and become religious
>>education teachers.. I know that this might delight Martillo-like
>>people, but the reason behind that is that most atheists and communists
>>in Tunisia are lazy stupid people who could not make it to the other
>>fields.

>An excellently Freudian slip.  You just said religion is something at
>which lazy stupid people excel.  I can agree with such a sentiment --
>which is why I despise Abrahamic religion in all its putrid and
>revolting forms.

In the above, I was making a clarification about an
article I posted before this posting which seems to not
have been posted.

In it, I said that people who go to humanities USUALLY do
so because they do not have a choice. People who love the 
fields (such as my self) and are able to excel in it more
do not go there because they are able to go to better paying
majors (engineering and science).. I never said that the people
we have in theology are really excelling in it, actually how do
you expect an atheist to do anything but destroy the field of
theology. But they are not even smart enough or motivated enough
to do that.
There is a growing minority o Tunisians who
1)either choose religious sciences out of devotion to Islam.
2)or choose it out of a  desire to destroy the religious teaching.

Both categories consists of smart motivated people.
The first is fought bt the government and usually ends up in jail
or unemployed,
the second is encouraged and ends up teaching religion in high
schools and in the commitees that design the program!

That is why I said that this situation might please Martillo'ish
creatures.

The article I send was a comment about the fact that the Christian vs
Muslim debates usually feature amateur Islamic scholars who are PhDs
in Engineering or science.
From: pmf$1349@altair.selu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: RE:  Before Writing
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:37:31 GMT
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University


	As usual all of Blais's references try hard to proof that the
Arab or Islamic thoughts were never leaders in world civilization all the way 
down to the Mesopotamian times. How articulate he presents the facts (his 
version of the facts).
	By the way, we still haven't heared ur answer about the books
recommended by SRI readers about the history of Embryology.  Or maybe
u only believe in the references that 'you' choose and want to impose
it on others.

Rami
Xref: sparky soc.culture.arabic:3550 soc.culture.african:4591
From: minhaszt@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Zafar T Minhas)
Subject: Re: Muslim students of humanities
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 05:13:05 GMT

In article <benali.716142832@alcor> benali@alcor.concordia.ca ( ILYESS B. BDIRA ) writes:
>
>I might have generalized about students who go to humanities, so
>I apologize to humanity students.. 
>I recognize that there are people who are smart but did not make
>the grade in school for some reason or another, and that there are
>sincere people who choose those fields out of commitment and love,
>but up to now, I belive that those two categories above are a minority.
>
>Actually in some countries (such as Tunisia), there are atheists and
>communists who go to the school of theology and become religious
>education teachers.. I know that this might delight Martillo-like
>people, but the reason behind that is that most atheists and communists
>in Tunisia are lazy stupid people who could not make it to the other
>fields.
you forgot to mention that they are howling savages hell bent on destroying the
very countries they live in for fantasy thoughts that they know nothing about.
now that i'm at it, martillo is the biggest jerk that i have ever met.

zafar
From: jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000)
Subject: Re: ISLAMIC WORLD NEWS (28th)
Organization: LC
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:28:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.232337.16173@panther.mot.com> ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen) writes:
>In article <3747@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU> aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh) writes:
>>In article <EXILE.92Sep7110036@wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu> exile@gnu.ai.mit.edu writes:
>>>in fact, i believe that the israeli-palestinian problem will be
>>>greatly alleviated if all participants immediately fucked each other
>>>in the line of a new jersey mcdonalds.
>True,  but the PLO, et al has not recinded its stance on terrorism, it hasn't
>agreed to officially admit that Israel even has the right to exist.  The
>Infatada is still a VIOLENT revolt that claims more lives every day.  Of 

 YOU MAKE ME SICK,

 ARAFAT JUST BOWED HUMBLY AND HUMPLY FOR ISRAEL, AND RECOGNIZED 
 ITS RIGHT TO EXIST.  WHAT AN IGNORANT STATEMENT YOU JUST SAID! ARAFAT IS
 LOGICALLY KISSING ISRAEL'S APPROVAL FOR NEGOTIATION.  ARAFAT 
 IS STILL WILLING TO KISS iSRAEL'S BEHIND. 
 
 IN FACT ARAFAT HAS BEEN CRITICIZED BY MANY PALESTINIANS FOR BOWING 
 HIS BEHIND TOO HIGH IN THE AIR FOR ISRAEL.

jle

Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan)
Subject: Re: Jordan and Lebanon in "Islamic World News" 11th(?)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:25:59 GMT

pmf$1349@altair.selu.edu writes:

>Most "Jordanians" do not believe in sabotage.  Moreover, Islam is not
>a violent religion.  Political groups should not use Islam to play with
>people's emotions and disturb the peace in order to get to power.
>Please do not use your personal views as a generalization for Muslims
>or Jordanians.


   I just relayed what I know, I did not accuse anybody of anything. I
think it is a governmental conspiracy on "democracy" which was born dead
already.
From: jaa12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (John A Absood)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Umm Kulhtum's Quranic Recitations
Date: 13 Sep 92 16:54:36 GMT
Reply-To: jaa12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (John A Absood)
Distribution: soc.culture.arabic
Organization: Columbia University

Hi Folks,

I was in Egypt this summer and tried desperately to get hold 
some of Umm Kulthum's Quranic Recitations. I was able to get
about three-four minutes. Does anyone here hve access to these
treasures. I am also interested in the recordings of Al-Sheikh
Mohammad Rifat. 

THANKX,

J. Absood

P.S. There was some talk of a separate newsgroup for arabic/
     mid-east music. What's up with this ??
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,alt.fan.letterman,misc.test,talk.bizarre
From: jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000)
Subject: Re: ARABS - TERRORISTS
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:19:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.043901.19924@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> jwiegand@moe.eng.temple.edu () writes:
>
>jim, 6'2" and easily enraged
>ZZ
>^D
>:wq
>/s

It looks like your vi  (or ex) fingers become less operational when "enraged".
Why didn't you hit <ESC>?   :)

jle
From: hermi@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Lotfi Hermi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Test 6 ( this is only a test )
Date: 8 Sep 1992 19:50:20 -0400
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: function.mps.ohio-state.edu

A mu'affira al-laythi al-hizabri

			Liman tarakta assarima al-masslula ?
_____________________________________________________________
Lotfi Diwanna
_____________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: rached@blanc.eng.ohio-state.edu (rached)
Subject: Re: Clinton and the Mideast
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 04:14:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.230042.11521@panther.mot.com> ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen) writes:
>
>If it hadn't been for the Arab oil embargo the Carter years look pretty good.
>                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^     ^^^^^^

Forgive my ignorance but when did the arabs have an oil embargo against US in
the days of Carter. The last oil embargo I heared of was at the time when King 
Faysal did it. Faysal died long before Carter took office. Can you please
refresh our memories ?

rached
From: souissi@ec.ecn.purdue.edu (Ridha Souissi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Are Algerian people ARABIC ?????
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:37:01 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

>	Moh&
>

Is this an Arabic Name?
Xref: sparky soc.culture.arabic:3543 soc.culture.iranian:7750 soc.culture.turkish:9753
From: blais@ut-emx.uucp (Donald Blais)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Before Writing: From Counting to Cuneiform
Keywords: tokens writing
Date: 6 Sep 92 14:12:35 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.arabic
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas


Schmandt-Besserat, Denise
Before Writing, Volume I: From Counting to Cuneiform
University of Texas Press, Austin
ISBN: 0-292-70783-5 (alk. paper)
L of Congress: CJ4867.S36 1992
Dewey Decimal: 737'.3'0956

From the book jacket...

    Before Writing gives a new perspective on the evolution of
    communication.  It points out that when writing began in
    Mesopotamia it was not, as previously thought, a sudden and
    spontaneous invention.  Instead, it was the outgrowth of many
    thousands of years' worth of experience at manipulating symbols.

    Denise Schmandt-Besserat presents a system of counters (tokens)
    that appeared in the Near East following the invention of
    agriculture (about 8000 B.C.) as the immediate precursor of
    Sumerian writing.  Tokens were small objects modeled in clay in
    various geometric forms used for counting and accounting for
    goods.  They remained in use during 5,000 years with little
    change, except at the rise of cities, when the types multiplied.

    The tokens represented a breakthrough in communication.  They
    constituted the first code, the first system of signs for
    communication.  They made it possible to deal with multiple kinds
    of data, thus allowing the processing of a volume and complexity
    of information never reached previously.

    Tokens functioned as an extension of the human brain to collect,
    manipulate, store, and retrieve data...
-- 
Donald E. Blais             Internet: blais@utexas.edu
Computation Center          Bitnet:   blais@utxvms
University of Texas         UUCP:     uunet!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!blais
Austin, TX 78712            Phone:    +1 512-471-6387 +1 512-471-3241
From: blais@ut-emx.uucp (Donald Blais)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: netfind
Date: 16 Sep 92 03:12:20 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas


There are frequent postings from people who want to locate a network
host in a given country or a friend at a given campus.  Netfind is a
search tool that may be of use...

telnet bruno.cs.colorado.edu
login: netfind

Top level choices:
        1. Help
        2. Search
        3. Seed database lookup
        4. Options
        5. Quit (exit server)
--> 2
Enter person and keys (blank to exit) --> nosuchperson egypt

There are too many domains in the list.
Please select at most 3 of the following:
        0. alex.eg (alexandria university, egypt)
        1. auc.eg (american university in cairo, egypt)
        2. cairo.eg (cairo university, egypt)
        3. cher.eg (center for higher education research, egypt)
        4. drtpc1.eg (developmental research and technological planning center, egypt)
        5. esic.eg (expert systems for improved crops, egypt)
        6. helwan.eg (helwan university, egypt)
        7. mans.eg (mansoura university, egypt)
        8. shebin.eg (menoufia university, egypt)
        9. suez.eg (suez-canal university, egypt)
        10. tanta.eg (tanta university, egypt)
        11. who.eg (world health organization, alexandria, egypt)
        12. zagzig.eg (zagzig university, alexandria, egypt)
Enter selection (e.g., 3 1 2) --> 
-- 
Donald E. Blais             Internet: blais@utexas.edu
Computation Center          Bitnet:   blais@utxvms
University of Texas         UUCP:     uunet!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!blais
Austin, TX 78712            Phone:    +1 512-471-6387 +1 512-471-3241 
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From: ravid@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Ravi Dronamraju )
Subject: Re: ONENESS AND UNIQUENESS OF THE CREATOR, AND THE PURPOSE OF CREATION
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 22:43:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

From article <1992Sep4.210341.21653@prism.poly.edu>, by ahussain@prism.poly.edu (Arshad Hussain):
>>From: irfan@wiener.ece.wisc.edu (Irfan Alan)
>>Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.afghanistan
>>Subject: ONENESS AND UNIQUENESS OF THE CREATOR, AND THE PURPOSE OF CREATION
> 
>>"TAWHEED IN ISLAM (The Oneness and Uniqueness of the Creator), 
>>and the PURPOSE OF CREATION."  
> 
>>As Muslims we want to show  that the real religion of Jesus (AS)
>>is contained in the Qur'an. 
> 
>>Muslims believe that Jesus (AS) was a mighty messenger of Allah.
> 
> This is the only issue regarding Jesus on which ALL muslims agree.
> 
>>We believe his miraculous birth by Allah's Permission, his
>>speech as an infant by Allah's Permission, his bringing the dead
>>to life by Allah's Permission,
> 
> Every birth is a miracle of Allah. If you mean that Jesus was born without 
> father, that is not true. 
> Many children talk earlier than normal ones.  No big deal.
> He had NO power whatsoever to give life to dead. This is sharing power with 
> Allah( regardless of Permission).
> 
> Quran does not support any af the claims like Jesus's birth without
> father, his talking at the age of 3-4 months, his power to give life
> to the dead, or his being still alive.
> 
>>No Muslim is a Muslim unless he acknowledges these facts. 
> 
> This is non-sense. These days we the muslims feel  our obligation to declare
> any other muslim 'non-muslim' who does not agree with 'our facts of Islam'.
> 
>>"There is no god but Allah; He is One, He has no partner"
> 
> 
> Let us respect all religions

hear hear !!!!

-Ravi
> 
> Arshad Hussain
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen)
Subject: Re: Clinton and the Mideast
Organization: Motorola Panther Project, Chandler, AZ
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:40:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.041439.6091@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> rached@blanc.eng.ohio-state.edu (rached) writes:
>In article <1992Sep13.230042.11521@panther.mot.com> ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen) writes:
>>
>>If it hadn't been for the Arab oil embargo the Carter years look pretty good.
>>                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^     ^^^^^^
>
>Forgive my ignorance but when did the arabs have an oil embargo against US in
>the days of Carter. The last oil embargo I heared of was at the time when King 
>Faysal did it. Faysal died long before Carter took office. Can you please
>refresh our memories ?
>
>rached 

Sorry, for the "mistake", shortly after Regan took office the price of oil 
dropped quite dramtically.  It wasn't the 70's embargo it was the Opec
squeeze. As we all know (unfortunately too well)
the price of oil has a dramatic effect on our (and other world) economies.

The point being the price of oil was out of Carters hands, so he was not to
blame (unlike Regan/Bush) for the state of the economy.  He left it in a much
better state then Bush is going to leave it.

BTW, as long as we are still bantering about Carter.  Another Carter
accomplishment was the Camp David accords.  Of course depending on your
particular view of the ME (peace because everyone gets along, or peace because
the entire State of Israel has become a 7 digit casualty statistic) Camp David
was either a great or terrible moment in history.

-- 

>
Ron Feigen
ronf@panther.mot.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: oueichek@ngulu (Ibaa Oueichek)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Clinton and the Mideast
Date: 15 Sep 92 08:21:56 GMT
Organization: IMAG, University of Grenoble, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Danny Keren (dzk@cs.brown.edu) wrote:
: rached@blanc.eng.ohio-state.edu (rached) writes:
: #ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen) writes:
: ##
: ##If it hadn't been for the Arab oil embargo the Carter years look pretty good.
: ##                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^     ^^^^^^
: #
: #Forgive my ignorance but when did the arabs have an oil embargo against US in
: #the days of Carter. The last oil embargo I heared of was at the time when King 
: #Faysal did it. Faysal died long before Carter took office. Can you please
: #refresh our memories ?
: 
: I also remember the embargo being earlier, but wasn't it during Carter's
: years that the oil prices jumped like crazy? 

 Yes, it was in 79 after the start of the Iraq-Iran war. 
: 
: -Danny Keren.

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