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From: taber@SunofInterlan.Interlan.COM (Bruce Taber)
Subject: Re: News on 2.1 Release
Organization: Racal Datacom, Inc., Boxborough, MA (1-800-LAN-TALK)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:44:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.215717.16781@ousrvr.oulu.fi> ojtv@zombie.oulu.fi (Olli Vuolteenaho) writes:

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   From: ojtv@zombie.oulu.fi (Olli Vuolteenaho)
   Sender: news@ousrvr.oulu.fi
   Organization: University of Oulu, Finland
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   I wasn't promised any free 2.1 upgrade. I think it is only fair for IBM
   to charge something like $50. I don't mind paying it considering what
   I'll be getting for the money. (Remember, MS-DOS 5.0 upgrade is $59).

   Olli
   __________________________________________________________________________

So you pay and I get mine free.  Good Deal?
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: adhir@wam.umd.edu (Al Dhir)
Subject: Re: PMFax foul-up with 2.1b
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:20:30 GMT

In article <18144@umd5.umd.edu> adhir@cygnus.umd.edu (Alok Dhir) writes:
>Hello all, I am (was) using PMFax v1.16 with my OS/2 GA+SP configuration,
>but recently, I tried faxing from a Windows app and found that it no
>longer works.  I installed the IBM Proprinter II driver on LPT3:, and
>I can print the job, and it actually gets to PMFax, but when I open up
>the log and open the fax to look at it, it is a blank page rather
>than what I had originally printed.  Can anyone suggest possible solutions?
>
I thought I'd reply to my own post with the solution :)

I finally broke down and cracked open the manual...  IBM Proprinter II is
the wrong printer driver!  I was supposed to use Proprinter XL24.  I am
happy to report that it works just like before now.  Something I left out
of my previous post is that it stopped working after I upgraded to 2.1b...
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: re: Should I use OS/2
From: ghdai@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 24 Jan 93 14:58:15 CST
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
NNTP-Posting-Host: vax1.umkc.edu

>I have a 486sx25 with a 124 meg HD and 5 megs of ram.  I plan to get up to 8 

You machine is powerful enough to run OS/2.  And yes, you really need 8 MB
to use OS/2 graphically, which is the usual way to use.

>megs soon.  I OS/2 worth trying?  I run Windows 3.1 now in enhanced mode.
>Will it be slower or faster?  Does OS/2 support 1024x768 at 256 colors yet?

I suggest that you wait util OS/2 2.1 GA version, which will include Win3.1
enhanced mode support.  The current WinOS2 (Win emulation under OS/2) in OS/2
2.0 is based on Win3.0 code and is naturally slower than Win3.1.  Sometimes,
a Win app runs faster under OS/2 than under a real Windows, indeed, because
it can benefit from faster HPFS file system.  But in general, you cannot
expect that considering the much more powerful multitasking capability of OS/2.
What I mean is that under OS/2, apps share the CPU and other resources and
they are running concurrently.  On the other hand, under Windows, you get
basically task-switching, and only one app is running at a time essentially,
which has grabbed all the system power and resources.  If you run a Win app
seamlessly, the lunch of it will be slower, because OS/2 needs to lunch a
vitual DOS machine first, and then WinOS2, and finally the app itself.  When
it is running, you can usually get 80-95% speed (sometimes even faster) than
under a real Windows.  This is my feeling and experience.

>Can I use the HPFS and still run my windows apps?  Thanks for any help..

Yes, you can run most DOS and Windoze apps with HPFS, which is transparent
for them under OS/2.  Sometimes you could experience installation failure
since OS/2 reserves some filenames locked which might happen to be the
installation program needs to process.  For example, Mathcad 3.1 for Windows,
it copies DIR0/1/2/3, etc., compressed files into separate directory and then
unpacks them.  No problem with DIR1/2/3, but DIR0* are reserved by OS/2 to
process store files recovered by CHKDSK.  I had to installed the thing under
real DOS on another machine, backup the installed directory, and finally
restored into my own OS/2 and HPFS only machine.  Some other DOS/Windoze apps
use low lever disk access method to decompress their installed compressed
files, which will also fail in the installation on a HPFS drive.  The solution
is the same as said above.

OS/2 2.1 will be out in about three months.  You are welcome to this very
powerful environment.  I whole heartedly recommend it to you.

Guohuan H. Dai/2
-- 
GHDai@VAX1.UMKC.Edu |** Happy user of only OS/2 !!! / HPFS on 2 entire HD's **|
|* OS/2 2.1beta includes MMPM/2, Fax/PM, Win3.1 enhanced mode, TT fonts, etc.*|


PS: 1024 x 768 is available for many display cards.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc
From: adkinsg@symphony.cc.purdue.edu (Garry Adkins)
Subject: Re: News on 2.1 Release
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 06:57:21 GMT

In article <1jq0ukINNf41@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> bewhite@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (MacroMan) writes:
>  I have also heard that these $5billion losses declared by IBM
>have MUCH to do with new government regulations.  Something about
>declaring employee retirement costs now instead of at retirement,
>and hence, a lump of such costs which will never show up again.
>  Either way, no need to panic folks, IBM isn't going ANWHERE
>(except up?).

How much of this loss was made up of money lost from owning a bazillion
shares of their own stock?  That could account for a hefty loss in
value of the company...  Just curious, I'm no economist.
 
Garry

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: gthome@bulldogs.austin.ibm.com
Subject: Re: News on 2.1 Release
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:13:20 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16g by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: gthome@dss1.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Austin

In <1321@alsys1.aecom.yu.edu> manaster@yu1.yu.edu (Chaim Manaster) writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.183710.9714@apgea.army.mil> rcmerrit@apgea.army.mil (Robert C. Merritt <rcmerrit>) writes:
>
>>>>32 bit hpfs as well).  2.0 was just an interim release as far as I was
>>>>concerned.  After 2.1 (if it has everything as promised) I would expect to
>>>>pay for upgrades.  The reason I, personally, expect  a free upgrade is
>>>>because I will be getting just what I was promised I would get.
>
>>>Who promised you these things?
>
>I was at the IBM rollout of OS/2 in New York, and several of the
>IBM'ers there, from the top man on down, (you know who), told me
>that any upgrades released during the first year would all be free
>to current users of OS/2, primarily they adopted this policy since
>some of the pieces were not all in place yet.
>This they claimed was unlike Microsoft that always kept you coming
>back for more. Frankly, this was very reassuring. I hope it was not
>mere hype and puffery. It was certainly intended to sell the
>product and clearly told to many attendees. I would be severely
>dissappointed if IBM was not as good as its word.
>
>I would like to hear from any IBM'ers monitoring this news group.

I am an IBMer and I have been working on OS/2 and some of it's extensions
(LAN Server) for the past 3.5 years.  ALSO, I AM NOT AN OFFICIAL
SPOKESPERSON FOR IBM AND PROBABLY NEVER WILL BE.  WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY
ARE MY OPINIONS ONLY.  The only reason I will respond to this post
is that someone asked for IBMers to reply.  I want you all to know
that some of us are connected to the outside world.  I also want to say
that I AM NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY IBM OS/2 MARKETING OR ACCOUNTING TEAM
AND HAVE NO IDEA HOW PRICES/POLICIES FOR OS/2 ARE SET.

I would not be suprised if IBM would start charging and upgrde fee for
major (new function) releases, and also charge a fee to cover the cost
of materials on interim (bug fix) releases.  Up to this point IBM has
given free upgrades for all releases.  Given the state of IBM's balance
sheet I think that IBM should start charging some cash.

If you have some contstructive criticism please email me at
gthome@dss1.austin.ibm.com and I will attempt to forward your ideas to the
approriate folks inside IBM.  This was not intended to start a flame war.
And again, THESE ARE MY OPINIONS ONLY!!!  Sorry for SCREAMING at all of you,
but I felt it was necessary.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: knipe@cvpsun05.csc.ti.com (Richard Knipe)
Subject: Re: News on 2.1 Release
Reply-To: knipe@cvpsun05.csc.ti.com
Organization: Texas Inc., Dallas, Texas
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:55:07 GMT

Does anyone know how to get pmcom to send control characters
correctly.  When I dail into different main frames, there are
times that I need to send a "control-6" or a "control-enter".
Pmcom is the only communications program I've ever used that
doesn't do this correctly.

---

Richard Knipe                   Texas Instruments
knipe@cvpsun05.cic.ti.com       6600 Chase Oaks Blvd.
(214)575-3575 voice             P.O. Box 869305 M/S 8456
(214)575-6965 fax               Plano TX 75086
From: ppch@doc.ic.ac.uk (Patrick Herring)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: .xsession for OS/2
Date: 21 Jan 1993 14:49:31 -0000
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: oak6.doc.ic.ac.uk


Is there a .xsession (as in Xterm for UNIX) equivalent for OS/2, like BigDesk for
Windows? I mean a window that looks at a virtual screen many times larger than the
physical one; you move a box within it to get a physical view and drag the
current screen to a blank space on the virtual screen (this is just in case it
doesn't exist but somebody might like to write one). It makes multi fullish-screen 
situations very much friendlier, particularly if the whole lot could be saved
across sessions - it would mean letting hidden Dos windows restart open outside
the field of view, for instance.

/* Patrick Herring                  Imperial College     */
/* Internet:ppch@doc.ic.ac.uk       University of London */
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: gtd543a@sol.crt.columbia.edu (death)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1 on Woodbine/2 BBS
Organization: Purgatory
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:51:27 GMT
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Gregory Youngblood (tcscs!zeta@src.honeywell.com) wrote:
: lepage@server.uwindsor.ca (LEPAGE LOUIS             ) writes:

: > 
: >       If you are looking to download OS/2 2.1 from a bulletin board, call
: > The Woodbine/2 BBS.  They have 3 lines, and are DEDICATED to OS/2.
: > 
: >       The Woodbine/2 BBS - (519)254-2023 14.4 v.32b
: >                            (519)254-8734 14.4 HST(2400 until HST is repaired)
: >                               
: >                            350 Megs of OS/2
: >                            Maximus CBCS BBS
: >                            Realtime Chat

: Doesn't this violate the license agreement that was included with the beta?
: I know it does for the one in the beta directory at hobbes.

: Or have you already gotten permission for this?

Do you think IBM will care?  I think IBM is purposefully taking a loss
on OS/2 (both with wide-distribution beta and overall development) to
crush Microsoft in the OS business.  And I will laugh when OS/2 apps
start to pop up like they did with Windows (trickle first, then an
avalanche) and OS/2 takes Microsoft out of business.  Who could
want more:
	* DOS Shell for your old DOS apps
	* Windows shell that runs FASTER than MS-Windows
	* OS/2 itself, a multithreaded OS

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Using 3 modems on one machine
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:15:32 GMT

In article <C18BDy.BFK@sugar.neosoft.com> chadb@NeoSoft.com (Chad A Brockman) writes:
>   I'm interested in setting up 3 9600 baud modems on 1 os/2 machine.
>   Question 1: Is there an os/2 comm. program that I can load 3 times
>       without conflicts. I tried loading 2 copies of PMcomm and they
>       seemed to w/ each other.

Most can, actually.  TalkThru (Software Corp. of America) is but one
example.

>   Question 2: Has anyone else out there tried this?? Am I going to be
>       able to receive a file into each modem @ the same time w/ out
>       loosing chars.

If the communications software is OS/2-based, and you use buffered
UARTs, it will probably work just fine.

OS/2 handles multiline BBSes just fine, and this effort is similar.

>   Question 3: I really didn't want to set up a bbs to do this. Am I
>       just fooling myself??

No -- go ahead and give it a try.

(With PMComm, I would suggest making two copies of the program -- or
at least the configuration file(s).  That could be the problem.)

-- 
Timothy F. Sipples      | Read the OS/2 FAQ List 2.0i, available from
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Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: orville%weyrich@uunet.uu.net (Orville R. Weyrich)
Subject: Re: News on 2.1 Release
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy
Reply-To: uunet.uu.net!weyrich!orville
Organization: Weyrich Computer Consulting
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 08:48:56 GMT


[followups to comp.os.os2.advocacy]

In article <80619@hydra.gatech.EDU> eefacdk@prism.gatech.EDU (Richard Kenan) writes:
>Second, and more importantly, *HOW THE H**L CAN MICROSOFT HOPE TO GET
>A COURT TO AGREE THAT IBM HAS TO CHARGE?* I mean, sure, MicroSlut can
>charge IBM, but in America, anyway, you're allowed to sell anything
>you can legally sell for ANY PRICE YOU FEEL LIKE, including zero. I

I believe that White-Westinghouse lost a lawsuit many years ago for using
one branch of their business (large appliances?) to subsidize another
branch of their business (small appliances?). The FTC was convinced that
it was an unfair business practice designed to drive competitors out of
the market, and invoked anti-trust laws. I think that that case set quite
a legal precedence.

IBM has to be sensitive to similar complaints from MS; personally I think 
MS is more wrong than IBM could possibly ever be in terms of fairness of 
microcomputer marketing strategies, but that's just my personal opinion.
I'm sure that IBM has conservative lawyers.

Of course, if IBM could document that when they released 2.0 that they
promised 3.1 and complete 32-bit operation [remember, they had 3.1 source
even if 3.1 wasn't out yet], then they should be able to make a pretty good
case that they originally sold 3.1 support.

IBM would have a much better case than, for example MS has when they call their
NT version 3.1 so that they can use their existing licensing agreement with
Novell -- little as I like Novell's marketing practices, I think that MS
is scr*ing Novell bad.

But I guess MS's precedent with Novell would be an argument for calling the
new OS/2 version 2.0.2 or something -- a minor fix only to known deficiencies.

But I would pay for an upgrade -- how many upgrades would depend on how much
it costs [my 9 year old daughter would have to go back to windows if the 
upgrade cost more than $25 or so].


orville

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.lang.pascal
From: gtd543a@sol.crt.columbia.edu (death)
Subject: Re: News on 2.1 Release with TurboVision
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.lang.pascal
Organization: Purgatory
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:43:30 GMT
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Patrick POLLET (ppollet@cismibm.univ-lyon1.fr) wrote:
: In article <C1EE0A.ALK@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> jbradsha@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jonathan Bradshaw) writes:
: >For those people with the annoying TurboVision under Os/2 bug that causes
: >the DOS session to crash when running a TurboVision program from the editor
: >you may like to know this is FIXED in the 2.1 release, also, you can run
: >DOS programs from the Windows editor.

: >-- 
:   I knew I should have refrain myself of rushing to get BP7 . I should
: have had a lesson with TP 6.00 !!! many bugs of Tvision were corrected
: in TP 6.01 !!! We never learn !!!!

Why?

1) He's talking about OS/2 2.1.
2) BP7 includes Turbo Pascal v7.0; none of this 6.01 mess.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: chadb@NeoSoft.com (Chad A Brockman)
Subject: Using 3 modems on one machine
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:15:31 GMT

Hello,

   I'm interested in setting up 3 9600 baud modems on 1 os/2 machine.

   Question 1: Is there an os/2 comm. program that I can load 3 times
       without conflicts. I tried loading 2 copies of PMcomm and they
       seemed to w/ each other.

   Question 2: Has anyone else out there tried this?? Am I going to be
       able to receive a file into each modem @ the same time w/ out
       loosing chars.

   Question 3: I really didn't want to set up a bbs to do this. Am I
       just fooling myself??


           Any help or advice appreciated,

                           Chad A.Brockman
                           chadb@sugar.NeoSoft.com
From: st1on@jane.uh.edu (Darby, Colleen T.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: QmodemPro and OS/2 Question.
Date: 26 Jan 1993 05:39 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: jane.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1993Jan22.090159.19549@netcom.com>, sagan@netcom.com (Mike May) writes...
> 
>  The back cover of the QmodemPro box, says that QmodemPro will work with
>OS/2 as a DOS app.  All well and that it will work, But how WELL?  The
>4.5TD version pegs the CPU load, and cannot x-fer in the backgroud. 
>I am using SIO/VSIO, and have changed the IDLE_* settings, but every
>time the disk is accessed, QModem will get an Error in the x-fer, and
>cannot continue.  PMComm works fine in the background, so I know it can
>be done on my Machine.  So My question is:  Is QmodemPro mulittasking 
>aware like Telemate v4.00 is??  I looked on there BBS, but you can't
>access the QmodemPro board unless your a registerd user?!?  So, if
>anyone has any info, it's greatly appreciated...  
>-- 
>_-_-   Mike May             |  "Now, it's either I'm dead and I haven't -_-_
>                            |   done anything that I want, or I'm still
>-_-_   sagan@netcom.com     |   alive and there's nothin I want to do." _-_-
	Get the program called BOOB,  It converts DV sleep calls to os2 sleep
calls,  This will solve tons of problems running dos apps.   Also get a program 
call sio.sys and vsio.sys,  there 3rd party com drivers that you use instead of 
the com.sys and vcom.sys.  When I use boob, I can run my bbs in the background
and run anything else just fine,  the cpu load is only about 20% with boob
installed.  Works great with qmodem-pro
BtW the sio.sys allows your dos coms apps to see the 16550afn if you have one.
From: ggr@cislabs.pitt.edu (Guillermo G Romero)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: SUN PC NFS4.0a and OS/2 2.0
Date: 23 Jan 93 18:16:57 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1j43iaINNis@nanette.sto.pdb.sni.de> schroedter.pad@sni.de (Eric Schroedter) writes:
>How can I run SUN PC NFS4.0a and OS2/2.0.
>

I have PC-NFS 4.0 running from a virtual machine.  I can't get it to run
under os/2 mdos (if it can be done, I'll appreciate the info).

This is what I did:

1.  Set up a VMB:	make a DOS bootable diskette
			copy files fsaccess.exe and fsfilter.exe to diskette
			write a config.sys file in the diskette containing
			  these lines: 

      			       	       device=fsfilter.sys
			  	       files=20
				       buffers=20
				       plus all your PC-NFS device= lines

			write an autoexec.bat file containing:

				  copy a:command.com c:\os2\mdos\mydos.com
				  set COMSPEC=c:\os2\mdos\mydos.com
				  lh c:\os2\mdos\mouse
			 	  copy freea.bat c:\os2\mdos
				  c:
				  c:\os2\mdos\freea.bat
				  plus all set commands and the NET INIT
					commands you need to start PCNFS.

			write a file named freea.bat containing the line:

				  c:\os2\mdos\fsaccess a: a:

2.	From the root directory and with your diskette in drive a: type
	
		vmdisk a: dos.img

3.	Copy a Program template from the template folder to the desktop,
	type a * in the Path  field, select DOS WINDOW from Session,
	choose DOS_SHELL and type c:\os2\mdos\mydos.com.  Go to 
	DOS_STARTUP_DRIVE and type c:\dos.img.  Save changes and
	you should be ready to launch PCNFS.

(BTW, I'm assuming c: as the partition where os/2 is installed).

Guillermo Romero
ggr+@pitt.edu
From: phaniraj@plains.NoDak.edu (V. Phaniraj)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Spice3e2 and OS/2 2.1 Beta
Summary: DOS Error 21
Date: 27 Jan 93 03:17:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.C1Ht56.Ewn
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

When I try to run this application, Spice 3e2 in WinOS2 Enhanced Mode
( This app uses the Win32s, 32 bit subsystem of Windows 3.1 /NT)
 it immediately stops with the message Unexpected Application Error :
 DOS Error 21. Very lucid, but not very useful. Any ideas on what this
really implies ?

I'm running on a 486/33  with 12 MB of RAM. This application can be
ftp'ed from ftp.cica.indiana.edu, right now it's spice41, 42 and 43.zip
in /pub/pc/win3/uploads.

Thanks

Raj
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: olavt@ulrik.uio.no (Olav Torvund)
Subject: Re: Designer for OS/2 "disappointing"
Organization: University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:03:58 GMT

A Micrografx representative has told me that Designer 3.1 for OS/2
will not be marketed very much, and that there is a 4.0 upgrade of
Designer not too far off in time. I understand that 4.0 will be
released as a "real" OS/2 app. On the other hand, Micrografx is one of
the worst companies when it comes to giving out incorrect information
about future versions of their programs.

Olav Torvund
University of Oslo
Norway
Olavt@jus.uio.no