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From: fraser@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fraser Wilson)
Subject: Re: TNG: Samaritan Snare. (SPoileRS, I suppose)
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 06:48:26 GMT

phs431d@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:

>Yeh.  Like why do they keep sending their most important personnel into
>unkown territory?

What else are they paying them for?

>Why didn't they try to beam him back as soon as
>Troi (the woman who USUALLY gives away the plot, but was `cleverly'
>off the bridge when all the decisions were being made) sensed a wrongness?

Who knows?  I remember while watching it yelling at them "Well, beam him
back you idiot", but sadly, my advice was utterly ignored.

>And what do they need a transporter room for anyway when they can beam
>people from one place to another (eg. other ship to bridge)?

Bit like the conference room I guess.

Fraser.
From: s892024@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Richard A. Muirden [GA])
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: Space 1999
Date: 11 Oct 92 06:29:52 GMT
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voros@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Joe Voros) writes:

>Henry.Gibbens@f352.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Henry Gibbens) writes:
>> Hi All,
>>       Anybody notice what Channel 7 (Melb) has snuck into their overnight
>>  programming?  Space 1999!!!  
>>  [...]
>>       Maybe they'll also start screening UFO 

>Well, it's about time they started putting some *quality* programs on
>the TeeV !!  I really dig those purple wigs...

They must like Purple and Pink... the Roles Royce in "Thunderbirds" is
pink, the purple wigs in ufo, god knows what colour (it kept changing
) hair in Terrahawks, and who ever heard of purple as the branch colour
for security!??! (space 1999)


>joe

-richard, who also enjoys watching S:1999 :)

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From: phs431d@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: TNG: Samaritan Snare. (SPoileRS, I suppose)
Date: 10 Oct 92 21:47:22 +1000
Organization: Monash University - Melbourne. Australia.

In article <hoahosth.1.718572147@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au>, hoahosth@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (ANDREA HOSTH) writes:
> I liked this episode. It kept my interest, although there were a couple of 
> places where the plotline was a bit shaky. Why did Picard start dying? Why 
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yeh.  Like why do they keep sending their most important personnel into
unkown territory?  Why didn't they try to beam him back as soon as
Troi (the woman who USUALLY gives away the plot, but was `cleverly'
off the bridge when all the decisions were being made) sensed a wrongness?
And what do they need a transporter room for anyway when they can beam
people from one place to another (eg. other ship to bridge)?

> was his replacement heart faulty? The stupid pseudo-medical terms really 
> amused me. 

Amusing.  It was hilarious.

> It was lucky that Geordi's kidnappers *were* so stupid, because I have never 
> heard such an obviously loaded conversation in my life....

This also gave me a good laugh.  Especially Data's lines.

> 
> Ankh

Don (who is waiting earnestly for the third series)

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From: voros@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Joe Voros)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: Space 1999
Date: 10 Oct 92 14:43:52 +1000
Organization: Physics Dept, Monash Uni, Melbourne, Australia.

Henry.Gibbens@f352.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Henry Gibbens) writes:
> Hi All,
>       Anybody notice what Channel 7 (Melb) has snuck into their overnight
>  programming?  Space 1999!!!  
>  [...]
>       Maybe they'll also start screening UFO 

Well, it's about time they started putting some *quality* programs on
the TeeV !!  I really dig those purple wigs...

joe
From: langsl@hhcs.gov.au
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: TNG: "Q Who"
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:28:13 +1000
Organization: Aust. Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services

In article <1992Oct6.132547.164730@dstos3.dsto.gov.au>, cej@dstos3.dsto.gov.au writes:
> So, "Q Who" (?) finally gives us a glimpse of the dreaded Borg!!! (for those
> who didn't see it on video). I thought it was about the best episode in
> series 2,

  I thought it was good too.  This plus PEN PALS are the only two TNG episodes
  I have seen in a while (except for later series videos of the BORG).  They 
  are certainly better than the really early episodes.

> except perhaps for "The Measure Of A Man"

  If this is the one where there is discussion about whether or not DATA is
  just starfleet property or a person, I thought it was a good idea for a story
  but badly done. 

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From: hoahosth@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (ANDREA HOSTH)
Subject: TNG - Up the Long Ladder (SpoiLers)
Organization: Halls of Residence, Monash University 
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 03:53:31 GMT

Well, another TNG with a message - "Forgive us our differences, as we 
forgive those who are different from us." Huh. Well, it was entertaining, 
but it certainly wasn't enthralling. The solution wasn't exactly a surprise, 
either. 

I've always wondered, giving today's advances in genetic research and 
manipulation, why these colonies with small gene pools can't just muck 
around with their own DNA to give themselves a viable base for breeding. The 
advanced culture certainly seemed to have enough technology to at least 
attempt something like this. Of course, its just as likely to result in 
horribly mutated children, so I guess not... Predicting the limits of Star 
Trek medical advances has always been an entertaining but useless exercise.

Interesting to note that the *beautiful female gueststar* (TM) managed to 
find, in her backward and completely back to nature society, both mascara, 
lipstick, blush and a considerably better quality of clothing than any of 
the other women. Nor (unless I missed it completely) did we get an 
explanation of just *why* her society chose this back-to-nature thing in the 
first place. And why they were willing to give it up and integrate with the 
advanced society. 

The other 'message' in the story - "its my body, they're *my* cells and you 
ain't touching them" - was only half-explored and the merits or demerits of 
cell donation was neatly side-stepped by the fact that cloning isn't fully 
viable. I'm pretty sure that if they asked the crew of 300 or whatever it 
is (some ridiculous and wholly overlarge number - what do they all *do*?), *
some* of them would be willing to donate. Troi seemed...sympathetic. By 
making cloning non-viable, the issue of having a differently functioning 
society - one not based on sexual reproduction - was undercut rather 
seriously. 

Well, it wasn't really *bad*, but they can do better.

Ciao

Ankh
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From: hoahosth@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (ANDREA HOSTH)
Subject: Re: S.T.T.N.G. (PENPALS)
Organization: Halls of Residence, Monash University 
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 08:38:05 GMT

In article <718381511.AA00000@csource.oz.au> Gil.Poznanski@f388.n634.z3.fidonet.org (Gil Poznanski) writes:
>From: Gil.Poznanski@f388.n634.z3.fidonet.org (Gil Poznanski)
>        The Borg is the ultimate user , Q told us that , and the Borg 
>is not interested in our lifeform , only the ship , and out technology 
>. BUT WHY....  There techonology surpasses ours , as they can beam 
>onto the ship with the sheilds up , and they can also fly at speeds past Warp
>9.999 . THEY DON"T NEED THE ENTERPRISE OR THE FEDERATIONS TECHNOLOGY , BECAUSE
>THE BORGS TECHNOLOGY IS SUPERIOR . There ship even fixes itself....WOW .

So did the Liberator..

>        I would love to hear any comments that anyone would have on 
>this or any matter ...

It may surpass the Federation's, but it is also probably quite different to 
the Federation's. Not only would the Enterprise be useful for pre-processed 
parts (metals and stuff), it can be very useful to explore technologies 
which have gone down different paths. Like a race who have ultra-wonderful 
incredibly expensive magnetic clothes fasteners meeting someone wearing 
velcro.

Ankh
From: Matthew Hall <mjhall@socs.uts.edu.au>
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: TNG: Samaritan Snare. (SPoileRS, I suppose)
Date: 12 Oct 1992 01:21:17 GMT
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ANDREA HOSTH, hoahosth@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
>places where the plotline was a bit shaky. Why did Picard start dying? Why 
>was his replacement heart faulty? The stupid pseudo-medical terms really 

Having just seen the Blake's Seven episode 'Rumours of Death' my question
is this : was Picard's last statement a tip of the hat to Blake's Seven, or
am I just imagining things.....at the end of the episode :

Avon: Servalan was planning on sending you a corpse. 
Vila (handing Avon a drink): Corpse revival? 
Avon: But the rumours of my death - 
Tarrant: Have been greatly exaggerated. 
Avon: Well, slightly exaggerated, anyway.
                        (Blake's 7: Rumours of Death [C8]  -- thanks Kathryn
:-) 

and Picard shortly after returning to the Bridge says :
"The rumours of my death have been greatly exaggerated"

Oh well, probably all just my imagination, but then I always did
relate too many things together :^)

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From: "colin mcgregor" <colin.mcgregor@canrem.com>
Subject: channel 9 st: ngt!!!
Reply-To: "colin mcgregor" <colin.mcgregor@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: aus
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:13:37 EST

>DS9 is supposed to have a 'darker' feel than TNG and focuses on both
>Starfleet & non-Starfleet personnel and possible conflicts between them.
>DS9 is set about the same time as TNG allowing TNG cast members to do guest
>spots from time-to-time. 

Some of the minor characters from ST:TNG are going to go from the 
Enterprise to DS9. The transfers are to include Transporter Chief
O'Brian (who as I recall did not get any speaking lines during 
season 1 & 2), Ensign Ro (who didn't appear until early 5th season),
and D. Troi's mother.

Given the set-up, the show sure to have conflict. DS9 was built
centuries ago by the Pajorin (sp?), who have for the past several
centuries been beaten up by the Cardasians (sp?). Most Pajorin are now
refugees scattered among the stars. The wormhole was stolen from the
Pajorin, and I gather shortly before the series starts, the federation
got it from the Cardasians. But the Cardasians are still alowed access
in/around the wormhole. Now for some of the conflics, Ensign Ro is 
Pajorin, and hates the Cardasians with a passion. Chief O'Brian was 
on a world when the Cardasians invaded, and hates what the Cardasians 
made him become.

>                           I know Patrick Stewart (Jean-Luc Picard) is in the
>pilot episode.  No episodes from DS9 have aired yet but I think they are due
>to start soon.

Early January I gather.

>The idea is that when TNG finishes at the end of this season or maybe
>the next (it's seventh) then DS9 will carry on from there.

I gather that Brent Spiner has signed a contract to the end of seventh
season. Beyond that who knows. I have heard a rumour to the effect that
a movie series is being considered with TNG characters.

>BTW I've seen some episodes from TNG's fifth season and they are well
>worth the wait.

True.
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From: kat@werple.apana.org.au (Kathryn Andersen)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: The Tomorrow People and Dr Who -- together (sort of)
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:03:51 GMT
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stephen@cc.uow.edu.au (Stephen Nicholson) writes:

>The Tomorrow people is currently being re-run on channel 7 in
>Sydney (and on Prime). I taped a few episodes last week 
>and lo-and-behold, who did I capture but Peter Davidson
>the 5th Doctor (and also from All Creatures G&S). Amazing!
And I'm pretty sure he wishes everyone would forget it!

>Anyone else seen this? Any other TP lovers out there (Kathryn?)
Hello Stephen!
>who know of other actors who have made an appearance on TP?
Well, in the same episode you refer to, Emily was played by
Sandra Dickinson, who played Trillion in The Hitchhiker's Guide
to the Galaxy, and was, the last I heard, married to Peter Davison!
And I seem to recall that Nicholas Young (who played John) turned
up in one episode of Space 1999 as an alien, but I can't be sure.
Anyone who's been keeping a weather eye open at 4am able to tell me?
Apart from that, I can't think of anyone else.

Kathryn Andersen
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From: Gil.Poznanski@f388.n634.z3.fidonet.org (Gil Poznanski)
Sender: acsnet@csource.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: Micronauts
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1992 16:14:38 +1000

Hiya Henery ,
            Thanks for the info on the star wars comics . Unfortunatly 
its difficult to locate U.K. editions of U.S. comic books , I know I have been
trying for years .
        As for Heir to the Empire , I had it over a year ago in hard 
back from the States . I also have Dark Force Rising , and am eagerly awaiting
the last book . Unfortunatly D.F.R. wasn't as good as H.T.T.H. so I hope that
the last one makes up for the second .
        I have the Dark Horse comics , and although Dark Empire is 
interesting , is it REAL Star Wars ? That was the question I found asking myself
after reading the fifth chapter . The emperor cloning himself......I don't know
. It's like Veitch and Kennedy are tring to save something that already dead . I
also heard that they are starting their own Star Wars line . I know one thing ,
if the storyline is anything like Dark Empire , I'll be hanging up my lightsaber
......
 
        Anyway , look forward to hearing from you.....
 
Gil .
 
I find your lack of faith disturbing.....................................


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From: kat@werple.apana.org.au (Kathryn Andersen)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: The Tomorrow People and Dr Who -- together (sort of)
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:13:07 GMT
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ins598w@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Roger Tall) writes:

>Well Stephen did you know that there is a movie on the Tomorrow People
>being made right now?  All I know is that it will star Kirsten Schmidt
>(Todd Landers from "Neighbours") and it is filming in Britain.
No, it's a new series, and it will start in November.
And he's only one of the stars, the token Aussie.

>I wonder if they'll be back in the movie.....
No they won't, it is basically the same concept re-done, not a
continuation of the old series.  That isn't to say some of the old
cast might not appear in cameos, I have no idea.  I do know Roger
Price wanted to use Philip Gilbert (played TIM) as the voice of
the computer, but don't know if he was able to.

Kathryn Andersen
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From: s892024@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Richard A. Muirden [GA])
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: TNG - Up the Long Ladder (SpoiLers)
Date: 16 Oct 92 10:25:02 GMT
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andrew@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au (Andrew Moore) writes:

>What a great quotation....

>Worf: "Death is an experience best shared."

Maybe he met Spock and McCoy in another life....

hey!! he *did* in ST6 ... well his grandfather!! ;-)

>Andrew.

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> Be interested in the future, you will be spending the rest of your life there.

-richard

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From: s892024@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Richard A. Muirden [GA])
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: S.T.T.N.G. (PENPALS)
Date: 10 Oct 92 12:11:43 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
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Gil.Poznanski@f388.n634.z3.fidonet.org (Gil Poznanski) writes:

>. BUT WHY....  There techonology surpasses ours , as they can beam 
>onto the ship with the sheilds up , and they can also fly at speeds past Warp
>9.999 . THEY DON"T NEED THE ENTERPRISE OR THE FEDERATIONS TECHNOLOGY , BECAUSE
>THE BORGS TECHNOLOGY IS SUPERIOR . There ship even fixes itself....WOW .

Simple. They were interested to see if there was anything NEW that they
could take from the Enterprise to assimilate into their technology - even
if it was something like a (?) food processor - they had to check. Kinda
like the Pakleds (last weeks episode :) ), but far more robotic.. they
Steal to make them go.... ;-)

that's who rthe Borg should assimate.. the Pakleds! :)

>        I would love to hear any comments that anyone would have on 
>this or any matter ...
>        Also go to see Q again . The idea of having him as a shipmate 
>would be very interesting .

I'd rather the Hot Chocolate ... ;-)

> 
>See Ya...
>Gil.
> 


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-richard

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From: ins598w@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Roger Tall)
Subject: Re: The Tomorrow People and Dr Who -- together (sort of)
Organization: Monash University
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 00:01:47 GMT

 
Well Stephen did you know that there is a movie on the Tomorrow People
being made right now?  All I know is that it will star Kirsten Schmidt
(Todd Landers from "Neighbours") and it is filming in Britain.

Actually I do remember the episode you are talking about where Peter Davidson
calls his mum "Momma".  In the end of the episode, didn't he become a parking
inspector?  I think he did.  

Did you dig John in those F L A R E S that he always wears.  

I wonder if they'll be back in the movie.....



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From: andrew.nipperess@f635.n713.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (Andrew Nipperess)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Greg Stafford at Necronomicon IV
Date: 8 Oct 92 01:18:12 GMT
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au

ARRRrrrgggghhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was just about finished typing this lenthy  message when the line cut out!
This time, I'll try to paraphrase my thoughts...
 
This message may be a little off topic, but I have a lot to get off my
chest.
 
Last weekend I was at Necronomicon IV (a roleplaying convention held in
Newtown this year). Since Necro III, the conveners had been fundraising to
bring Greg Stafford out from the US. Greg Stafford is a roleplaying guru
whose writing credits include Runequest (his baby and claim to fame, written
in '67), Stormbringer and some Cthulhu stuff (all roleplaying, not fiction.)
Funds were raised from convention fees, auctions and raffles to pay for his
airfare and accommodation, as well as free entry to the convention.
 
The idea was that Stafford would give lunchtime seminars on US roleplaying
industry and guru s- but to me it seemed like it was a case of showing the
provincial hicks and yokels down under how professional roleplayers do
business (professional= American). He also read from a manuscript of an
upcomung RuneQuest (RQ) supplement- a possibly great oppurtunity for
dedicated RQ fanatics to see something before it was even published, but
largely irrelevant to the majority of people forced to listen, read as it
was before the prizegiving. Even as a historical/legendary background for a
Gloranthan hero it was boring. After an hour, he was told by two different
organizers that they were ready for the prizegiving, but he wanted to read
just a little more. Just as he was starting part 7, some one desperately
pleaded "I think we've had enough now thank you".
 
I didn't see his visit as being very relevant, and actually a little
insulting. Next year the conveners plan on bringing another gure out- Ed
Greenwood, a one time writer of TSR's Forgotten Realms. Unless he can
contribute something relevant to the Oz Roleplaying Convention scene, is
there any point in inviting him to our shores?
I hop_{ the organizers change their minds...
 
 
 
 
                                       Nipper

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From: s892024@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Richard A. Muirden [GA])
Newsgroups: aus.tv,aus.sf
Subject: Re: Dune on tonight, Channel 7, 11.30pm (ST:TNG overtones) :)
Date: 11 Oct 92 06:37:41 GMT
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I thought that Patrick Steward was rather good in it!!! *grin*

At least we know how Picard got the way he is - he used the Spice!!!

Is that a phaer in your pocket, or a worm? hmmm...

-richard
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