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From: puma <puma@halcyon.com>
Subject: Re: T-3000 + Fax Upgrade
Originator: bbs@halcyon.com
Keywords: T-3000 fax WorldBlaer upgrade
Organization: organized?? me??
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:11:36 GMT

bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser) writes:
> I'vd been thinking about this ... and find it hard to justify a modem
> as a fax machine.  Many things you want to FAX will be in hard copy from
> other sources ... hence the need for a SCANNER.  The price of the scanner
> + modem FAR exceeds a reasonable fax machine .. and for Printing faxes,
> unless you have a laser printer, you have to deal with painfully slow and
> noisy dot matrix.

Actually, having BOTH is nice.  I use a "real" fax to receive most
faxes (it's on a fax switch, shared with voice mail and other
stuff, and on 24hrs), and to send things already on paper.
BUT, when you have something in a computer file to send, sending
it with a fax modem or card is really nice.  The quality is better
for the folks receiving it, since the dot pattern lines up with
the fax's dot pattern better.  I can send long distance faxes 
in standard mode that look better than a fax sent from a paper
copy with a "real" machine in fine mode, in much less time (=$$!).
Further, you don't HAVE to print it first, unless you want a paper
copy yourself.
From: mem28103@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (M. Munoz)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Twincom init string?
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:26:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxvCBE.3Jy
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

brian@edscom.demon.co.uk (Brian Humphreys) writes:


>>>If anyone has a Twincom 14.4/DFi that they can successfully connect at
>>>14.4kbps to other modems with, could you please e-mail me the init string
>>>you use. 
>>>Thanks
>Twincom to some other high speed modems. Has anybody managed to connect
>their Twincom to the Higher Education National Software Archive at
>Lancaster University (0524) 843878. I believe HENSA are using Miracom modems
>however, the above suggestion doesn't seem to work.

>I have no problem connecting with an old 1200 baud modem (apart from the speed).

>Any offers?


>-- 
> /)  /)  /_/
>/)  /   / /                              Mail: brian@edscom.demon.co.uk

I'm using the following string:

AT&C1L2S11=50S7=60&D2&Q5W1%E1S10=15\A3&T5

There's some redundancy with the defaults but I change some paramaters
often.

Marc E. Munoz
mem28103@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: x1sdup@esparc19.webo.dg.com (Stephen Dupre)
Subject: Intel 400/e Limitations
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 15:35:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: Stephen_Dupre@DGC.ceo.dg.com 
Organization: Data General Corp.

Just another note on the Intel 400.  It's generally solid but
with one drawback.  It won't connect over 2400 baud with a 
Telebit Trailblazer.  In my experience, the vendors we deal with
have Telebits (and their proprietary standard PEP). 

The other modem that will only connect at 2400 baud is the
US Robotics HST series. 

The limitation is clearly stated in the literature. 
 
Does anyone know the status of whether Intel is going to code around this?

I imagine as modems get cheaper, people would be less likely to
stay with the Trailblazers if other better products are offered
that conform to non-proprietary standards.

I checked the Intel bulletin board and found no mention of work
being done to fix this problem. 

The good news is it connects reliably at 30k with other 14.4 modems
with compression on of course.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: dbehr@dos-lan.cs.up.ac.za (Danie Behr)
Subject: octocom modems
Summary: Octocom modems
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 09:05:14 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Pretoria

In the past two weeks I haven't received any confirmation of financial 
problems at Octocom.  I have received a phone call from the local suppliers 
stating that Octocom currently have no financial problems.

I also saw the Internet message in this group stating poor 
operation and high costs of the modems.  That is one opinion, but I can 
also give references of more than one other customer that are very satisfied 
with the quality of the modem, and the local support associated with the 
modem.

I therefore assume that if I decide to go the Octocom route it would not be 
the wrong choice.

Danie Behr
------------------------------------------------
Danie Behr
Dept Computer Science
University Pretoria
RSA
(dbehr@cs.up.ac.za)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: louislam@iastate.edu (Louis C Lam)
Subject: Supra can't get the dialtone (help!)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:32:55 GMT

Ok, I didn't listen to you guys and now I'm stuck.

I got my SupraFaxModem V.32bis today and I can't get it to recognize
the dial tone! Everything worked fine except after I issued a dial 
(atdt xxx-xxxx), the modem's LEDs blinked, then returned a message

NO DIALTONE

so, what's going on? I've tried another phone line but everything is
the same.

I'm sure that I connected the wires correct since I also connected a 
phone to the phone jack on the modem and the phone worked.

Please help.

I think I better return the Supra and buy a ZyXEL, but I want to get
the Supra to work first cux I have something to FAX, and I don't want
to go down to Kinko's...


Louis
louislam@iastate.edu

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: fred@genesis.demon.co.uk (Lawrence Kirby)
Subject: What does the DSR option do? 
Distribution: world
Organization: BT
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:04:41 +0000


In article <1237@saxony.pa.reuter.COM> dgil@pa.reuter.COM writes:

>
>In <Bxn9ML.A18@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mem28103@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (M Mem28103 M's)> writes:
>
>>What is the DSR option anyway?  Is there a preferred setting?  The
>>default on my modem is "always on".
>
>     DSR stands for "Data Set Ready"; "Data Set" is usually synonymous with
>"Modem" in this context.  Generally, the "Data Terminal" (computer or> terminal)
>shouldn't send a character to the modem unless the DSR signal indicates that
>the modem is prepared to receive and deal with it.  "Always on" means that the
>modem will *claim* to be ready at all times, regardless of whether it is 
>actually ready or not.  I would say that *in general* this is a poor choice of
>default.
>     You will have to determine whether your communications software actually
>honours this signal or just ignores it.  If it ignores it then I guess in
>theory you might get slightly better throughput by leaving it "always on",
>but my own inclination is to sacrifice a little speed for reliability.
>(There is no point in setting it "always on" unless either you know it will 
>always be ignored.  If the computer/terminal is going to take the time to 
>check it, you might as well have the modem generate it.)
>
>     There's an analogous signal, DTR, which governs the flow of data in the
>other direction.
>
>                                              Dave Gillett
>
>

In the context of modem it is RTS and CTS lines which are the data flow
lines. CTS is an output from the modem which flow controls the data sent by
the computer. RTS was a half duplex control line but is now almost universally
used for flow control in the opposite direction.

DTR and DSR work at a higher level - they indicate that in some way that a
session exists. A comms program will have DTR raised throughout its
conversation with the modem. Dropping DTR forces the modem into a dormant
state where it drops the connection and may even refure to notice commands
sent to it. DSR isn't used much these days. It is closest to a carrier detect
line, and is raised by the modem during the connect phase. It's off when the
modem is in an offline state, but the modem can still accept commands so
DSR is NOT a flow control signal.

Of course modems usually allow any of these signals to be disabled. It usually
makes no difference for DSR.

Having said all of that there are a few bits of equipment which use DTR and
DSR as flow control, notably serial printers for some reason. But I haven't
seen any modems that do.

-----------------------------------------
Lawrence Kirby | fred@genesis.demon.co.uk
Wilts, England | 70734.126@compuserve.com
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From: pato@pdn.paradyne.com (Pat O'Horo)
Subject: AT&T Paradyne's 28,800 modem
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Fl.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:10:46 GMT

I dug up the press release that announced our 28.8 technology.  As is 
indicated below, as of the September CCITT meeting (the last one) we are
the only company that has been able to take the technology this far.  The
product will be available when the standard is approved.

Also, if there is any interest, I can get the press release for our new
line of consumer grade modems.  These are V.32, V32bis Fax modems that 
are aimed at the low cost market.  These modems utilize a new Optical phone
Line interface (OLI), which provides superior performance over traditional
transformer based DAAs.  These new modems come with a lifetime warranty.

Here is the release, any typos are mine:

FOR RELEASE: MONDAY, NOVEMBER 16,1992
     LAS VEGAS, NEV. -- AT&T Paradyne continued its modem technology
leadership by announcing today it has developed a modem that achieves the
world's fastest tranmission speeds of 28,800 bps over standard telephone
lines.
     Designed by AT&T Paradyne's development teams in Largo and at AT&T
Bell Laboratories, this breakthrough will allow customers to plan their
future network applications based on efficiency and cost-saving benefits
of the newest speed.  The new speed is twice as fast as the current 14,400
bps transmission rates.
     The company is the first to provide 28,800 bps modem test results to
the CCITT V.fast standards committee.  The only other 28,800 bps test 
results were achieved by companies using simulated modem modulations,
rather than with actual modems.  Expected availability of the new products
is set for the second half of 1993.
     "We're excited about the new modulation scheme," said AT&T Paradyne's
Vice President and General Manager of Advanced Dial Technologies, Jean-
Claude Vrignaud.  "It's also important to note that we are providing test
data to the CCITT for 28,800 bps using an actual product.
     AT&T Paradyne also announced a migration plan for its COMSPHERE
3800 modem customers.  The plan will allow customer to upgrade their
existion modems to the new V.fast standard once it is approved by the
CCITT.  The new V.fast upgrades will cost $350.
     Headquartered in Largo, AT&T Paradyne develops, manufactures and
markets global data communications products.  The AT&T subsidiary also
licenses high-bandwidth transmission transceiver technologies to worldwide
telecommunications suppliers.
     For marketing and sales information please call 1-800-484-3333.
COMSPHERE is a trademark of AT&T.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Patrick O'Horo					Voice (813) 530-2608
Senior Engineer					Fax   (813) 530-8224
AT&T Paradyne
8548 126th Ave No.
Largo, Fl 34649
From: jhumkey@cup.portal.com (John K Humkey)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: U.S. BBS for ZyXEL
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 16:44:32 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

I have a new ZyXEL U-1496E (and like it a lot).
I've setup Procomm Plus and Telix both with no problems.
The fax work great (once I put it in "Normal" not "Fine" mode, our
fax at work couldn't handle it.)

I'm working on the Voice mail... and wondered if there was a U.S.
BBS for ZyXEL that might have some sample code written.

(Or some place I can FTP something.)

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From: tnixon@hayes.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Intel 400/e Limitations
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:27:46 EDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <1992Nov20.153539.29252@webo.dg.com>,
x1sdup@esparc19.webo.dg.com (Stephen Dupre) writes: 

> Just another note on the Intel 400.  It's generally solid but
> with one drawback.  It won't connect over 2400 baud with a 
> Telebit Trailblazer.  In my experience, the vendors we deal with
> have Telebits (and their proprietary standard PEP). 

It shouldn't even connect AT ALL to a "Trailblazer", since 
Trailblazers had only DAMQAM/PEP.  You must actually be talking to a 
Trailblazer Plus, which also has V.22bis.

> The other modem that will only connect at 2400 baud is the
> US Robotics HST series. 
> 
> The limitation is clearly stated in the literature. 

As it should be.  You'll find that nobody but Telebit talks PEP, and 
nobody but USR talks HST.  PEP and HST are proprietary protocols, 
implemented only by the respective companies.  The same would be 
true if you tried to call an MNP6 modem, a Hayes V-series 9600 (with 
only Express 96), or any of the many other modems which have only 
proprietary modulation schemes above 2400bps.

> Does anyone know the status of whether Intel is going to code around this?

I don't speak for them, but the answer is most likely "never".  

There is no motivation for companies to implement the proprietary 
modulation schemes of their competitors.  There might have been a 
motivation at one time, if we hadn't, as an industry, figured out 
how to make echo cancellers cheap and effective and V.32/V.32bis 
modems still cost over $2,000.  That's not the case, though, and the 
cost in engineering and patent licensing to do PEP, HST, or other 
proprietary modulations simply isn't worth the effort.

Instead, you should encourage those sites with only Trailblazers to 
upgrade to real standard high-speed modems.  If they insist they 
need PEP, they can upgrade to a T3000 or WorldBlazer; otherwise, 
they could upgrade to any of the many high-quality low-price V.32bis 
modems on the market.  You are quite unlikely to have any success 
trying to cajole Intel into implementing PEP.

-- 
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Hayes Microcomputer Products, Inc.  | Fax     +1-404-447-0178  CIS   70271,404
P.O. Box 105203                     | BBS     +1-404-446-6336  AT&T    !tnixon
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From: behrenss@hphalle6.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: Why not Supra?
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:09:00 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Distribution: na

Nick C De Mello (nick+@pitt.edu) wrote:

:   My question: is there any specific complaints about them I should
: know of?  Should I not buy it, and why?  Also, if not the Supra
: what would you recommend instead?

The single one complaint I have is: My LAP-M still kicks me off randomly
if I have line noise (line noise being the counting impulse for my
telephone here, issued every 12 minutes). Very annoying. Other than that,
it works. Oh yes, support in FRG is lousy.

I'd say: If you can spare the money, get a ZyXEL.

Soenke
From: lee@hsh.com (Lee Havemann)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Ever Left a Supra on for 24 hrs ?
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:51:31 GMT
Organization: HSH Associates

In article <1ehoavINNb6v@basie.mps.ohio-state.edu>, weisz@basie.mps.ohio-state.edu (Ivan Weisz) writes:
> I have bought my Supra v32.bis fax modem about six months ago. It is on
> continuously since. (except for 1 second breaks when it freezes and I have to
> turn it off, to get it work again)
> It sits on the floor in soft carpet, so does not get much ventilation.
> I measured with a sensitive thermometer and the hottest spot on the modem is
> less then 3 F degrees warmer then the surrounding air temperature. In other
> words just by touching I would not be able to tell if it heats up at all!
> I guess I am just lucky with mine one. 
> Though I have other problems with my modem... 
> Ivan Weisz


Yeah, I guess we're lucky with both of ours too. One  of them is on a BBS
that's been up for 3 months (excepting power glitches) and we haven't had a
problem yet.  The other one is used almost exclusively for dialing out all over
the country, and we haven't had any problems connecting with any other modems. 


-- 

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 Internet: lee@hsh.com    Compuserve: 70410,3507    AOL: HSH Assoc
 "Any opinions expressed are not necessarily those of anyone else, 
  including myself."                     
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: carlos@dorsai.com (Carlos Domenguez)
Subject: FOLLOWUP: Boca 14.4 and FAX..NOT!
Summary: BOCA 14.4 wont send/receive at 9600+ in FAX mode
Keywords: BOCA,ECLIPSE,DELRINA,WINFAXPRO,FAXMODEM
Organization: The Dorsai Embassy +1.718.729.5018
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Distribution: world 
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:40:06 GMT

Earlier today I posted an init string that was supposed to allow my
BOCA 14.4 faxmodem to send and receive at 9600 in FAX mode.
 
Needless to say it failed.. I can send at 9600+ in WINFAXPRO v2,
but cannot receive ANY fax. (I applied the patch for v32bis provided
by DELRINA)

Eclipse FAX will ONLY send/receive at 2400 Baud in FAX MODE!!
 
Delrina says v3 of winfaxpro supports the BOCA..
Eclipse has yet to return a call....
Boca says it the software...
 
I'm pretty pissed, and wish I'd bought a ZOOM instead...

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From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: T-3000 + Fax Upgrade
Keywords: T-3000 fax WorldBlaer upgrade
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:11:48 GMT

larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:

>$149 is cheaper than a FAX machine, and modem high speed
>FAX modems.  If you don't have any plans to use the FAX,
>then no, it's not worth the upgrade fee.
>The question is, does this $149 include any software?

I'vd been thinking about this ... and find it hard to justify a modem
as a fax machine.  Many things you want to FAX will be in hard copy from
other sources ... hence the need for a SCANNER.  The price of the scanner
+ modem FAR exceeds a reasonable fax machine .. and for Printing faxes,
unless you have a laser printer, you have to deal with painfully slow and
noisy dot matrix.

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5 High-Speed Lines  V.32bis/V.32/PEP/V.42bis, etc.   Located in Natick, MA USA
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Any Digicom Scout+ bugs?
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 15:20:18 GMT

In article <1eflc8INN8ta@travis.csd.harris.com> mikem@travis.csd.harris.com (Mike McCole) writes:
>guarentee for $199.00 U.S.  I haven't seen ANY bug reports about the
>Digicom Scout+, this seems too good to be true.  Before I buy one from
>Prodigy (I'm a member) I would like to know if anyone has had any trouble
>with the Scout+.  Does the fax work ok?  Does it have any supra like

Well, the only strange thing I noticed with it was that it retrains on
my normal line after a couple of hours, periodically.  My Twincom never
retrained and I assumed I had perfectly clean lines.  Then I discovered
that the default config for my Twincom was *never* to retrain!  It's
pretty frightening the first time it happens if you're not expecting it :-)

G
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From: hbrda@dec001.hou281.chevron.com (b.r.daniels DEC)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Need help figuring out what modem to buy
Keywords: reviews,comparisons,polls,Supra,ZyXEL,PPI,testing
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:34:42 GMT
Organization: Chevron

Sigh.  I was really hoping there would be a FAQ file for this group.  I'm
sure my questions would have been covered...

I've been looking for a modem which will do at least 9600 baud data com-
munication, possibly with 14,400 baud/compression, possibly with additional
FAX capability, for not much more than $300, and preferably less.  I've
looked through Computer Shopper, and found a variety of modems which *might*
do what I want, but I'm not sure.  I saw one modem that said 14,400 FAX, and
nothing else.  DOes that mean it just does FAX at 14.4 kbps, or does it mean
it does 14.4 kbps plus FAX?  What exactly are V.32 and V.42?  What does the
"bis" sometimes after V.x2 mean?  What are Group 1/2/3 FAX, and which do I
probably want?

Any recommendations for the best modem in my price range?

E-mail responses appreciated, though I will check here for a few days.

Thanks for any help you can give,
- Brad
-- 
Brad Daniels			| daniels@bigred.enet.dec.com
"Chevron's DEC whipping boy"	| I wouldn't speak for DEC unless
Digital Equipment Corp.		| they asked me, and they won't ask me.
From: hm002b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (hasit mehta)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Info on: Infotel, Zoom, or Zyxel
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:26:51 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <leec4-151192204832@design3.meche.rpi.edu> leec4@rpi.edu (CD LEE) writes:
>In article <of0I6dO00Uh_444ltZ@andrew.cmu.edu>, Kwan-Ju Chen
><kc2x+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> I agree ZyXEL is a better modem.
>> 
>> I dumped my SUPRA v32bis.
>
>Could anyone success to send the fax from ZyXEL at Mac?
>If you did, how and what program you use.
>
>CD LEE, Chun-Da Lee                                 leec4@rpi.edu
>ITS Consultant, ITS=Information Technology Service  CD_Lee@MTS.RPI.EDU
>Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY

Yes I have a ZyXEL U-1496E and a Mac SE/30 and I have sent a few faxs and
received a few as well. I use a program called FaxSTF. It comes with a ZyXEL
driver so it works like a charm!
Hasit
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: a-kevinp@microsoft.com (Kevin Purcell)
Subject: Zoom/modem v42bis 2400 info needed
Date: 20 Nov 92 00:35:09 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

I'm in the process of buying an older Zoom V42bis (the ones that look like
an aircraft carrier) 2400 baud modem for use with a venerable old Mac Plus.

Are there any gotcha's for this modem? How do the newer Zoom modems differ
from the older ones?

It doesn't have a manual? Can somebody:

1. Lend me one (perferably in the Puget Sound region)?
2. Copy one for me?
3. Provide me with Zooms phone number so I can get one from them?

Any other advice welcome (like what are the standard MNP, V42, v42bis S
registers and their settings -- this info would really help). I've used 2400
baud modems before, but the error correction/compression stuff is new to
me.

Any advice on hooking up Macs with a handshaking cable also welcome.

Email prefered. I'll post if there is an interest.

73 de Kevin Purcell N7WIM/G8UDP (Seattle, WA)          a-kevinp@microsoft.com
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