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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 08:17:28 CDT
Reply-To:     bj496@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
From:         "(W. K. Gorman)" <bj496@cleveland.Freenet.Edu>
Subject:      LIST CHANGE: CANINE-L



The Dog Fanciers' Discussion List <CANINE-L@PCCVM.BITNET> is now peered.
The new peer is PSUVM. Subscription requests from Bitnet users may
be sent to the listserv at either peer. Requests from non-Bitnet users
should be sent to listserv@psuvm.psu.edu. The Internet address of the
list itself is CANINE-L@PSUVM.PSU.EDU.

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From: TRACIA@UKANVM.BITNET (Don Tracia)
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Subject: NEW LIST: AWARE-L Authorware Professional software list
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:31:53 GMT
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Aware-L on LISTSERV@UKANVM.BITNET
   Authorware Professional for Mac/Windows and related topics

   The Authorware mailist was formed to offer a forum for discussion for
   developers that use the program Authorware Professional.

   To subscribe to Aware-L send the following command to
   LISTSERV@UKANVM.BITNET in the BODY of a mail message:

      SUBSCRIBE AWARE-L Your full name
   Eg.
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   Owner:  Donald W. Tracia (Tracia@UKANVM)
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Subject:      LIST CHANGE: EQUINE-L



The Horse Fanciers' Discussion List <EQUINE-L@PCCVM.BITNET> is now peered.
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the list is equine-l@psuvm.psu.edu.

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From:         "(W. K. Gorman)" <bj496@cleveland.Freenet.Edu>
Subject:      LIST CHANGE: FELINE-L



The Cat Fanciers' Discussion List <FELINE-L@PCCVM.BITNET> is now peered.
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:35:56 CDT
Reply-To:     Cliff Manis <cmanis@csoftec.csf.com>
From:         Cliff Manis <cmanis@csoftec.csf.com>
Subject: NEW LIST: LINES-L - LifeLines Genealogical Program list

LINES-L on LISTSERV@NDSUVM1.BITNET
        or LISTSERV@vm1.nodak.edu

   LINES-L will serve as a vehicle for topics related to the enhancement
   of "LifeLines Genealogical Database and Report Generator".  LifeLines
   is an experimental, second-generation Genealogical system.

   LINES-L is for the exchange of information, reports, programming
   hints, ideas and also an electronic newsletter about the LifeLines
   Genealogy program which works on the Operating Systems: UNIX (Sun3/4)
   and Xenix386.  Dr. Thomas T. Wetmore IV is the author of LifeLines
   Database.

   TO SUBSCRIBE TO LINES-L

   Send the e-mail to Listserv@Vm1.NoDak.Edu or LISTSERV@NDSUVM1.BITNET
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   If you have any problems, please send a message to the List-Owner.

   List Owner:   Cliff Manis    < cmanis@csoftec.csf.com >
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Organization: Science Fiction BBS tel +46 (0)8 6424077
Approved-By:  Marty Hoag <NU021172@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.new-list
Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 08:38:16 CDT
Reply-To:     ahrvid@sfbbs.edvina.se
From:         "(A Engholm)" <ahrvid@sfbbs.edvina.se>
Subject:      NEW LIST: NESFAD - Nordic Electronic Science Fiction Addresses

NESFAD   Nordic Electronic SF Address Directory Distribution List

   NESFAD (short for Nordic Electronic SF Address Directory) is a list
   with E-addresses to fans of science fiction-literature in the Nordic
   area (Denmark, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Iceland).

   The list contains the following information about Nordic SF-fans:

      1. Name
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      4. Snail Mail address
      5. Phone no
      6. A two line blurb where the person present him/herself

   NESFAD is published once every 2-3 months, and each mailing contains
   a complete, updated list of "known" addresses.  To be ON the list,
   you must must live in the Nordic area or be a Nordic citizen.
   Foreigners can receive the list without being on it.

   TO SUBSCRIBE write to ahrvid@sfbbs.edvina.se (Ahrvid Engholm) or
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   If you're a Nordic citizen please include info covering 1. to 6. (see
   above).  We're sorry, but we don't have a special list-server for
   NESFAD.  A simple letter will do.

   NESFAD was begun in December '91, and the latest edition contains ca.
   110 addresses.

   List Owners:   Ahrvid Engholm  ahrvid@sfbbs.edvina.se
                  Ben Roimola     broimola@abo.fi
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:24:14 CDT
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From:         Christian.J.Reichetzeder@AWIIMC12.IMC.UNIVIE.AC.AT
Subject: NEW LIST: DITTO-L Data Interfile Transfer

DITTO-L@AWIIMC12.BITNET
DITTO-L@AWIIMC12.IMC.UniVie.AC.AT

   Data Interfile Transfer, Testing and Operations Utility

   What is DITTO-L?

   DITTO-L is an international electronic forum for anyone interested in
   discussing the use of the IBM Data Interfile Transfer, Testing, and
   Operations utility (DITTO for VSE & VM, MVS/DITTO).

   Some examples of relevant topics for DITTO:
      How do you use DITTO in your operation
      Comparisons of utility programs
      Likes and dislikes about DITTO
      Useful hints and tricks working with DITTO
      Standards and formats for bibliographic information
      Features you'd like but can't find in any program

   To subscribe send the command
                SUB DITTO-L full name
   in one of the following ways:
      a) from BITNET as interactive  message to your nearest backbone LISTSERV
         or LISTSERV@AWIIMC12
      b) from BITNET, Internet and connected networks in the BODY of a mail
         with your preferred mailbox in the From:-field to
         1) your preferred backbone LISTSERV
         2) LISTSERV@AWIIMC12                    (BITNET)
            LISTSERV@AWIIMC12.IMC.UniVie.AC.AT   (Internet)
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From:         "James R. Garven" <garven@utxvm.cc.utexas.edu>
Subject:      NEW LIST: RISK Management and Insurance

RISK on LISTSERV@UTXVM.CC.UTEXAS.EDU

   RISK is provided as a means of electronically distributing
   communications related to issues concerning the general topic of risk
   management and insurance.  Although RISK was originally created in
   order to facilitate discussions amongst academic members of the
   American Risk and Insurance Association (ARIA), non-ARIA members,
   including academics, professional risk managers and other interested
   parties are also invited to subscribe.

   To subscribe to RISK, send the following command to
   LISTSERV@UTXVM.CC.UTEXAS.EDU in the body of a mail message:

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   For example: subscribe RISK John Doe

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   LISTSERV@UTXVM.CC.UTEXAS.EDU in the body of a mail message:

      SIGNOFF RISK your name

   For example: signoff RISK John Doe

   For more information, send the command HELP to
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Date:         Sun, 27 Sep 1992 15:50:14 CDT
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Subject:      NEW LIST: CARR-L Computer-assisted research and reporting

CARR-L on LISTSERV@ULKYVM
       or LISTSERV@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU

   CARR-L was started to facilitate communication between working
   journalists (any media), journalism educators, and news librarians
   and researchers.

   The topic is focussed on the use of computers in journalism, not
   general journalism.  Topics range from text processing and graphics
   to online database searching and computer communications and
   investigative reporting.

   To subscribe to CARR-L, send the follwing command to LISTSERV@ULKYVM
   via mail text or interactive message:
      SUBSCRIBE CARR-L your full name

   For example: SUBSCRIBE CARR-L William A. White

   Owners:  Elliott Parker <3ZLUFUR@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:31:26 CDT
Reply-To:     mmurrain@hamp.hampshire.edu
From:         mmurrain@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject:      NEW LIST: Feminism in/and Science and Technology e-mail list

FIST@hamp.hampshire.edu
   Feminism in/and Science and Technology, the e-mail list.

   Because of the recent interest generated, a new list has been
   created.  This list is for discussion of feminism and science and
   technology.  This will be an unmoderated list.  If you are a
   scientist and a feminist this list is for you.  If you are a
   feminist, and interested in science and technology, check it out.
   The idea of this list is to discuss critiques of science and move
   beyond these critiques into the realm of how do we create a feminist
   science?  What do we need to pay attention to?  How does one do this
   and get tenure?  How do we teach science?

   To get on this list, send a message to
      FIST-request@hamp.hampshire.edu.
   Send all adminstrivia there too (getting off the list, changing
   addresses, etc.)

   *** Please include a paragraph introducing yourself and what you do. ***

   Please be patient with the list subscription requests (I need to
   teach and do research, too, besides answering email!)

   To send a message to the whole list, send to
      FIST@hamp.hampshire.edu

   Michelle Murrain, School of Natural Science
           Hampshire College Amherst, MA 01002
               Voice:(413) 549-4600 x688
           email: mmurrain@hamp.hampshire.edu
      co-editor, Feminists in Science and Technology
     (for sub info send snail mail address by e-mail)
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From:         gomide@FPSP.FAPESP.BR
Subject:      Apologies re: InterMeta course

PLEASE DO NOT SEND MONEY !
It is with regret that I perform this task. Dr. Gelson V. Gomes. a
professor of the University of Parana, Brazil, has exceeded this
privileges and announced a eletronic course:

> ____________________________________________________________
>        Mastering INTERNET Tools, Seizing METANET Power -
>                      The InterMeta Course
> ____________________________________________________________

I must apologize for this flagrant breach of network etiquette. Please
be aware that Dr. Gelson had no right to do so, since this is against
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PLEASE DO NOT SEND MONEY!
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Please write by normal mail, to:
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to get more information on his objectives. He may want to give the
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With regards,
--
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From:         gomide@FPSP.FAPESP.BR
Subject:      Apologies re: InterMeta course

PLEASE DO NOT SEND MONEY !
It is with regret that I perform this task. Dr. Gelson V. Gomes. a
professor of the University of Parana, Brazil, has exceeded this
privileges and announced a eletronic course:

> ____________________________________________________________
>        Mastering INTERNET Tools, Seizing METANET Power -
>                      The InterMeta Course
> ____________________________________________________________

I must apologize for this flagrant breach of network etiquette. Please
be aware that Dr. Gelson had no right to do so, since this is against
the rules of our ANSP network, and also against the Bitnet rules.
PLEASE DO NOT SEND MONEY!
I will not discuss what his motivations were. But his account has been
revoked, and there will be no such course through my network.

Please write by normal mail, to:
-> Gelson V. Gomes
-> 358, R. Alvaro Andrade - ap.1201
-> Curitiba PR BRAZIL 80610-240
to get more information on his objectives. He may want to give the
course by normal mail.  :-)

With regards,
--
Alberto Courrege Gomide | Fundacao de Amparo `a Pesquisa - (11)831-3357
Software Supervisor     | Rua Pio XI, 1500 - CEP 05468-901 - Sao Paulo
<gomide@fapq.fapesp.br> | FAX (11)261-4167 Telex (11)82014 - Brazil
(ACG8) - .BR Domain Technical Contact. |
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:18:00 EST
From:         DMCN <DMCN@TRINCC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: I've been trying to keep up on it.

Hi everyone,
        These are some of the suggestions that Mr. Randall Robinson gave
with respect to the situation in Somalia:
        We (the outsiders) should aim at sending great quantities of food
to Somalia.  The country should be 'rained' with food so that the value
of food right now in Somalia can go down.  People are stealing the food
that is currently being sent because it now holds the status of currency.
        He believes that a U.N peace keeping force should be sent but it
should be composed of soldiers from the 'third world' nations.
        He also believes that the rich arab nations should be much more
involved in aiding Somalia.
        He raised many interesting points that I was not aware of.  He said
that the weapons that the Somalis are using right now in their civil war are
weapons that came from the United States, the former Soviet Union, Germany and
if I remember correctly, also from Italy.  While Somalia was an strategic
place for both the U.S. and the Soviet Union, it was important to keep the
nation armed to its teeth but with the dissipation of the Cold War each has
pretty much giving their backs to Somalia.
        Well, I have to go now (I have to go to class) so if I remember
anything more, I sure will be sending a message to you all.
                                        Dora
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 10:21:52 CST
Reply-To:     chowning@acuvax.acu.edu
From:         Richard Chowning <chowning@ACUVAX.ACU.EDU>
Subject:      Fw: Undeliverable Mail

  In Message Tue, 6 Oct 1992 09:15:57 -0400, AHMED@DAYTON.BITNET writes:

  >Gerry, Chelgoi and Others,
  >
  >Hearing from you and the more distant but real news regarding Somalia and
  >Bosnia and others sure makes me feel sad and hopeless .... shame and guilt..
  >
  >I think that I too may have become numb and cynical and hearing of the
  >tragedies from you bring tears...and sadness...and reminds me of another
  >time when I used to feel a lot more...

  Me, too, brother.  How have we allowed ourselves to become numb?  Maybe this
  is a breakout stage.

  >Sorry for the long flahback.... I was reminded of the times I used to get
  >upset and the process of numbness and acceptance to where I have, too
  >often of late, avoided even thinking about starvation and remembering
  >true poverty...

  Do not apologize.  We need the flashbacks and memories to call us to reality
  in the present.  I am so tired of the presidential candidates vying for the
  best line to assure the American public that under their administration,
  whoever win, there will be the American Dream reborn, lifestyle will not
  have to suffer.....(more tears).....if our lifestyle does not change,
  other's lives will be lost by the thousands and tens of thousands.

  --- Chelagoi
_____________________________________________________________________
Chelagoi               alias                         Richard Chowning

chowning@acuvax.acu.edu                  Abilene Christian University
chowning@acuvax.bitnet                                 Abilene, Texas
rchowning@igc.org                               Voice: (915) 674-3754
_______________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 11:03:18 EDT
From:         Mary Ellen Ugactz-Fernandez <ugactz@CUNIXF.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: I've been trying to keep up on it.

Oh, I understand that the situation is complicated...but considering
those people dying are innocent.. stuck in a political warzone..how
does one justify not interfering? It seems to me, NOT interfering in
some way, is a world crime... should we had known about the jews being
killed in mass numbers, would the same argument be used for that as
well? I can only hope that we did not know a thing, and that that
tragedy was an oversight on the world's part... there needs to be some
world order... some across the border regard for innocent life... alas,
I think I am too idealistic...

/Emmy
From: eeigcn@EEIUC.ERICSSON.SE ((Gerry Callaghan))
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.xcult-l
Subject: Somalia
Date: 6 Oct 92 07:44:36 GMT
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Hello Everyone,

The president of the Republic of Ireland, Mary Robinson is now on her
way to New York to meet Boutros Ghali after a three day tour of Somalia
and Northern Kenya.

There she met refugees and leaders of the warring factions and carried a dead
baby and a dying mother in her arms.

In an extremely emotional news conference from Nariobi last night she spoke
of the shame she felt at being a member of the western world which can allow
such tragedy to develop. The diplomatic protocol that surrounds these occasions
was thrown away as she, breaking into tears several times, condemned the
delay in getting U.N. and E.C. aid into the country.

I believe that everyone who had a meal last night should share this sense
of shame. Sisters and brothers, anyone who has any chance of influencing
decision makers in any country, do so now.

Yours, in pain and shame,

Gerry Callaghan

eeigcn@eeiuc.ericsson.se
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 09:10:06 EDT
From:         Mary Ellen Ugactz-Fernandez <ugactz@CUNIXF.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Somalia

I don't think that that is necessarily true - that we can stand only
one heartwrenching story at a time...it's true to the extent that we
cannot stand to hear a tragedy over and over again while feeling so
helpless about it... we aren't given strategies to deal with the news -
to write here, call there... we're jsut thrown this ton of despair and
then day after day supposed to deal with it without means... what is
the UN doing?  Seems like very little... we're talking about MILLIONS
of people.. gosh, if that happened anywhere else what would we do - the
same?  Do we really give it 100% when it comes to people of african
ancestry - the Haitians, south africa, etc? or has racism become so
engrained that people say "well, yeah, we're doing our best" without
looking a little deeper, a little harder, a little longer at its
various angles.....

How can we not come up with a solution to a man-made problem?
It seems to me we need more creative thinkers.. not bigger muscles.
/Emmy