From: kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran)
Subject: Re: To the discussionaries!
Summary: Some people never learn to shut up, do they? 
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 01:09:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.010639.8793@iscsvax.uni.edu> clifton9220@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.070325.1829@netcom.com>, gordons@netcom.com (Gordon Storga) writes:
>> <1992Nov11.190043.8658@iscsvax.uni.edu> clifton9220@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>>>Sorry if I have been a bit behind, but school calls, ya know.  I will try to
>>>keep up now.
>>>
>>>I thank God that he has been showing me some personal helps that I thought I'd
>>>share to help others.
>> 
>> "some personal helps"??  What the hell are they?
>> 
>>>---Clinton is not the enemy. --- Just because he is the president that supports
>>>many anti- christian ideals (gay rights, abortion on demand, etc.), 
>> 
>> And that all-consuming anti-Christian ideal - FREEDOM OF RELIGION.  (Psst,
>> Ken, that means that not being Christian is OK.  Got it?)
>
>What about the freedom to be a christian?  In acts Jesus told us to sread the
>news to all the world.  Being a christian means at least giving the others the
>option to know the truth.

That's nice.  I have three Churches within 10 blocks of my apartment.  When I
want to "know the truth", I'll go visit one of them, ok?  Until then, shut the
fuck up.

>> 
>>>                                                                    he is only
>>>a tool that God uses to wake up his children and to shake the fence that people
>>>are trying to balance on.  
>> 
>> Why doesn't this wimpy god ever do anything himself?  Sheesh!  He sends
>> everyone else to do his dirty work.
>
>If God did, would you have to have faith to believe in him?  He doesn't want to 
>force you to believe in him.  YOU have to believe in him and then he blesses
>you.  I didn't know him till I gave it a shot, either.  Why not give it a shot?

Make mine a double.  Then, sit for a minute and think about how Jesus would
react to this sentence.  Then be glad that you're not a fig tree...

>
>>>                           We need to love our brothers and sisters (even
>>>clinton) and hate the sin.  This also is true for hating abortion but loving
>>>those who had them.  We need to tell the truth but not judge, that is up to
>>>God.

But let's be sure and pass CO amendment #2, just in case...

>> Why don't you just mind your own business? If your god is really the big
>> cheese, it would seem that he could do all this himself.
>
>Did it occur to you that he is through us?

"We need to tell the truth but not judge"...  Your own words belie your
hypocrisy.

>> 
>>>---The only thing different not from before the election is that now we have a
>>>new challange to face.  Besides, as we see from those resigning before clinton
>>>comes in.  
>> 
>> Does your prior sentence *say* anything?
>> 
>>>           Many experienced people see him for what he was now --talk just
>>>talk.  I don't want to side track, but seeing that he wanted to bomb and begin
>>>a ground war with Serbia just a few months ago.  What will he do know?
>> 
>> Heck, you don't want him starting a war over human rights, do you?  "There
>> ain't any oil over there for us so why should we get involved."  Is that
>> it?
>
>Would you go and die?  ARe YOU in the army?

If they would let me in, I was in, and they ordered me there, yes.

>>>I think that is good for now.  Peter -- stay in there and all you others for
>>>the unborn.  Maybe people will wake up soon.
>> 
>> Well when you do - welcome to the real world.
>
>At least I have you thinking.

Ken, this sort of stuff has been refuted so many times that people have
written shell scripts for it...
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