HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jschklar@TrentU.CA (J)
Subject: RE: Kris Anne's search for law-types on the net!
Reply-To: jschklar@TrentU.CA
Organization: Trent University, Peterborough
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 03:23:36 GMT

Friend,
 
     How is law school?  I am a senior psychology major at Trent
University in Peterborough, Ontario (Canada).  I am taking a year off
to travel and work, but will return to either grad or law school in the
Fall of 1994.  I am a US citizen and am debating whether to attend 
north or south of the border: a serious life decision.  Hopefully I
will be able to do some work and travel in the states this summer, fall.
I have contacts in Chicago, family in Tennessee...  What's the situation
south and west?

     What type of law are you interested in?  I am interested in joint
psychology and law: my undergrad thesis is in this area (I am studying
how juror naive conceptions of the law affect verdict decisions).  
About the only fun reading I've done recently is the Uncensored Simps-
ons Family Album :).  Seriously, I work at one of the bars here and 
have (in the deep dark past) done student government work.  Tell me 
about Stanford... I think it's a little out of my reach (A's and 89th
percentile LSATs just aren't what they used to be...)  Talk soon...
Jason from ... brrr ... Canada!

     BTW - send your e-mail address in next correspondence please, the
address you give (hulbert@leland.stanford.edu) is not a mail box...
                                             ____________
Jason, from ... brrr ... Canada!            /  .   o | . \
email to      jschklar@trentu.ca           / .   `-O-|   .\
"Shake once and then watch Frosty         | .  .  ( )#  .  |
 play in his winter wonderland..."        |::::::::::::::::|
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
From: ssalimb01@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: crobertson
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:45:35 GMT

In article <108139@bu.edu>, dunger@crsa.bu.edu (David Unger) writes:
> In article <1993Jan24.151625.8710@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> crobertson@mta.ca writes:
>>>>If you hate america and it's obvious you do, take your opinions somewhere
>>>>else for you represent mount allison quite badly, just a little
>>>>advice dick.........
>>>>--DAVE
>>>
>>>Thank you Dave.  You speak for may Americans.  "Love it or leave it."
>>>Kudos,
>>>Mark
>>>
>>>---Yeah, Dave, thanks. Thanks a lot. It baffling to see the strange things
>>people will believe. Anyway, Mark, read my past posts and THEN decide whether I
>>really hate America or not. That's about all I can say about that...for now.---
> 
> Just look at my mail file and decide for yourself!  How much ass do you kiss
> on a day to day basis?  I think it's time for you to take your posts elsewhere
> because i haven't seen anyone who cares for you or your posts yet, you
> remind me of a little lost elementary school boy so find your way on some
> other news group--
> 
He can post anything he wants, Dave.  By the way, if he is lost, how is he
suppose to find his own way?  If you are so concerned, why don't you GUIDE
him?  And also, what is it with your mail file?  Filled by hate mails or 
empty?  You know well enough that we can't look at your mail file.  Hang on.
Can we?
> 
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Newsgroups: soc.penpals
From: jbob@iastate.edu (The Tick)
Subject: Re: so I screwed up....again
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:54:11 GMT

-----------
It looks to me that someone is having troubles.  Oh well, I
guess we'll know when they're fixed....
_Tick
       /  ___/   ___/ ___/| email:           | So many assholes  |            
      /  /      /    /    | jbob@iastate.edu | So few bullets.   |            
 _   /  /__/   /__/ /__/  |  "Don't fear the |   -Ford Fairlane. |       
/   /  /      /    /      |      reaper"-    | ISU dosen't care, |             
\__/  /___/ _/   _/       | Blue Oyster Cult | what anyone thinks|
From: Peter Monks<P.D.MONKS@UK.AC.BHAM>
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
Subject: Penpal Wanted
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:55:32 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, United Kingdom
NNTP-Posting-Host: ibm3090.bham.ac.uk

==============================================================================
Hi everyone.  Before you jump to reply its not I who requires a penpal.

I have a friend who's recently been very ill from Asthma including numerous
visits to hospital.  He likes writing to people but isn't on the e-mail
system.  Can anybody help.  He would like to converse with anyone around
the world using the "old fashioned" pen on paper/postcard.  Please don't
write back to me - I can't pass on your messages.

His name and address is:    Wayne Moran
                            16 Liberty Close
                            Stannington
                            Sheffield S6 5PZ
                            UK

He's looking forward to hearing from you

Thanks,

Pete.
From: schin@acs.bu.edu (neil schier)
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
Subject: Looking for Yale '90 Stanford '90
Date: 23 Jan 93 20:11:31 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: schin@acs.bu.edu

HElllo
If you meet the above description (Yale or Stanford '90)
please e-mail back to me?

regards
NEil



Newsgroups: soc.penpals
From: labson@borneo.corp.sgi.com (Joel Labson)
Subject: Re: For the guys...
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Distribution: WORLD
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:51:13 GMT

|> OK Guys, listen up!  Check out this situation...
|> 
|> I wake up this morning, and my girlfriend (for 2 months now) says: I
|> think
|> we should just be friends.  Many an occasion have I been tormented
|> with 

************************************************************************
*******
 

Actually, I am hopin to hear that phrase one of this morning...
-- 

Newsgroups: soc.penpals
From: torenvl@ecf.toronto.edu (TORENVLIET GERARD LAWRENS)
Subject: Re: ren and stimpy
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:43:10 GMT

In article <2910.3398.uupcb@synapse.org> doug.hewko@synapse.org (Doug Hewko)  writes:
>
>What is "Ren and Stimpy"????  Nobody over here has heard of them. 
>

Watch Musique Plus, they might show it.  Much shows it (too) frequently in
the rest of Canada.

"Happy, happy, joy, joy."
-R&S

Yogourt,
Gerard
From: JABabb@cen.ex.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
Subject: Scott I lost your address
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:32:32 GMT
Organization: University of Exeter, UK.

Scott,
I lost your address. Help.
:-<
Jacqui
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
From: ssmith@mta.ca
Subject: thanks to all who support us!
Reply-To: ssmith@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:16:35 GMT

hey, lay off Mt.A.  We just found out about this system, so naturally there
was some excitement to write to other people.  Obviously there are some out
there who enjoy slashing others.  Too bad.  The world is in enough trouble
without people fighting one another on a friendly system.  Please just chill!

Peace

Steve
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
From: linp@spot.Colorado.EDU (Pat Lin)
Subject: have an email(s) a day
Keywords: email
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 00:20:20 GMT

Hi world,

This is my first post to this news group.  I love the feeling of logging
onto my computer and get a strings of emails.  A little about myself:
I am a senior in Aerospace-Bioengineering at the University of Colorado,
USA.  My interests are making friends, heavy metal rock-n-roll, mountain
biking, astrophysics, fast cars, motorcycles and airplanes.  Yep, it is 
beginning to sound like a grocery list of the week.  I am male of Chinese  
descent and stands 5 feet 5, or taller after a good rolfing session.

So email me and I love to chat (or email) about my interests, ideas and 
hear of yours.

	
	Pat,
		Ride Hard or Stay Home!
From: gpkec@westminster.ac.uk (Alan Hughes)
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
Subject: I need a penpal
Keywords: I'm, so, bored!
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:46:55 GMT
Distribution: soc.penpals
Organization: University of Westminster

Hi. My name is Alan, I'm not trying to sound desperate but, please, please,
please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please,
please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please,
please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please,
please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please,
please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please,
please, please, please, please, please, please, please, write to me.

Promise 2 write back...

Al.
---
_________________________________________________________________________
|Alan Hughes                                                            | 
| gpkec@uk.ac.westminster                                               |
|  Bsc. Software Engineering     ,,,                                    |
|   University of Westminster   (o o)     Wot no Mail!                  |
-----------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo---------------------------------
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
From: Gordon_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Gordon Wong)
Subject: THE BEST OF THE PERSONAL ADS
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:27:42 GMT

[The Best of the Personal Ads]

Here are some of my favourites lines/comments extracted from the newspaper
personal ads.

[Men to Women]

[1] SWM seeks female ... no major history of institutionalization.
[2] No cappuccino creatures.
[3] ... can say commitment without fainting ...
[4] ... needs a playmate for hot Saturday nights, lazy Sunday mornings
[5] I'll gladly answer your call so long you're not Gemini, don't listen to
    Barry Manilow and aren't carrying Watchtower magazine.
[6] Madonna-esque type a bonus.
[7] Into climbing K2 or Arctic scuba diving? Not!
[8] Woody Allen-type (pre scandal) seeks ...

[Women to Men]

[1] Men living at home with mummy need not apply.
[2] Chicken lady ... seeks rooster to make me crow.
[3] ... seeks house-trained, healthy man.
[4] No stalkers please!
[5] Liars and freeloaders --- no thanks.
[6] pony tail optional
[7] feline creature waiting for a male to rub my back

Some people can be so clever with words. Feel free to contribute some of your
favourites.
From: D.G.Legros@bradford.ac.uk (DG LEGROS)
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
Subject: Re: Suggestion box: pickup lines
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:43:52 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 92356597@ccw313
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

EMIL CHUCK (eyc@acpub.duke.edu) wrote:
: I'm working on trying to get some interesting humor just in time for
: final exams for me and my friends on the network. I was hoping there'll
: be some response to this post, and please respond by email to me. I
: can't read everything posted. (That doesn't mean you can't post.)
: 
: I'm calling for some creative (and hopefully effective) pickup lines for
: men and for women. Please keep your remarks clean, and I won't lose your
: suggestion for all eternity. On the other hand, you can just post your
: more suggestive suggestions on the network. Seems to happen anyway.
: -- 
: Emil Thomas Chuck	eyc@acpub.duke.edu	Biomedical Engineering 1993
: 	Hope you have a very good "Native American Exploitation" Day.
: I don't have to have a 4.0 GPA to succeed in life because I'm 
: good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me.

Try this "Excuse me but do you have a quarter?"
"Why?"
"I thought you might want to call home to say you'd be back tomorrow"

--
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        _____   | Dommy the Mouse (INTERNET D.G.Legros@bradford.ac.uk)
   ____/____^>. |                 (JANET    D.G.Legros@uk.ac.bradford)
                | Rodents rule ok!  :-)
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From: eagv17@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Babilas)
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
Subject: Re: 18-year-olds at Mount Allison University
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:58:41 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

18-year-olds at Mount Allison University   ???

or maybe:

18-year-olds mount Allison at University   :-)
From: Joan Balser
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
Subject: Re: Wanted:  30ish virgin female penpal
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:53:39 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research

In article <1jmmadINN34q@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bt630@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich
Michaels) writes:
>
>If this description fits you... please reply.
>
>Thanks 8-)
>
>
>-- 
>An idea is not responsible for the people who believe in it.
>--  Anon 
>
Rich,

You got to be kidding!!!  Wishful thinking on your part.  

Good luck, bud!

Murph@bnr.ca
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
From: wc1000@wc16.writer.yorku.ca (Jennifer Ugarte)
Subject: Re: A Swedish Viking looking for penpals
Reply-To: alt.comics.sandman
Organization: York University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:43:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.155457.2766@vax1.mankato.msus.edu>  writes:
> Hi my name is Per Cedersund
> 
> I'm a Swedish student who studdies in Mankato, Minnesota.
> I came here at the first of Jan and I'm going to stay here until
> Jun.
> I'm 23 years old, and my biggest interrest in life are music and sports.
> In Sweden I live in Gothenburg.
> I'd like penpals from all over the world and especially girls.
> 
> My adress is Perra@VAX1.Mankato.MSUS.EDU
> 
> Bye !  

HEY!
by any chance to you know the swedish chef?!?

bork bork bork!!!
--jene                                    ~
From: hbtnn@usno06.nor.chevron.com (Brian Tanner)
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
Subject: Re: Suggestion box: pickup lines
Date: 28 Jan 93 20:32:37 GMT
Organization: Chevron
Expire: Feb 2

If we are going to keep posting pickup lines, I think we need a rating
system...

I just happen to have one here...

My highschool physics teacher once described the rating system used by the
engineering students at the U of M (in the early Pliocene or Plistocene I think)
that made comparison to the fabled Helen of Troy (ie. deca-hellen ==> would
cause 10K ships to sail, millehellen ==> would cause 1 ship to sail, negahellen
would cause 1K ships to sink...)

I prepose a variant for pickup lines:
The base unit would be the 'keg' (preferabley Guinness).
And the rating would be how many kegs the pickup line's victim would have
had to drink to have the line work...

Brian
From: ch633@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Valerie K. Nanio)
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
Subject: Pen Pal Wanted
Date: 24 Jan 1993 05:37:52 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ch633@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Valerie K. Nanio)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


	I am a 20 year old, happily engaged female and I would like to 
correspond with people who like a wide variety of music.  I'm also 
interested in Egypt and travel.  Drop me a line if you have some of the
same interests as me.
 
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
From: wjap@rau3.rau.ac.za (Mnr W Phoenix - magasyn)
Subject: Re : I'm Wealthy and looking for a female penfriend
Organization: Rand Afrikaans University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:19:05 GMT


 Hi ,

 My name is Wolfgang (Wolfi).  I am 1.92m (6'2) tall, I have short 
 brown/blond hair, Golden brown sun tan and deep blue eyes, and 
 built like a gladiator (German decent).

 Enjoys outdoors, surfing, scuba Diving, Shark hunting (Great Whites) and 
 my personal favourite is the solo ascent and  once at the top a paraglide 
 to the bottom. 
  
 I Like Spoiling the fair sex ... .  if you think you are woman enough 
				     E-Mail me at the address below,  my 
				     butler James will forward your message 
				     to me any time of day or night.
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
From: sweaver3@mach1.wlu.ca (scott weaver 9209 U)
Subject: Re: all these Mt. Allison people
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:56:48 GMT

Scott C. Kramer (esquire@sage.cc.purdue.edu) wrote:
: Scott Weaver (sweaver3@mach1.wlu.ca) wrote:
: >What do you expect from a university situated in a town of 5000 people, in
: >the middle of the windy Tantramar Marshes?  My guess is that they just
: >recently discovered civlisation outside of the Marsh, and are now going
: >where no one was thought to have gone before :-).
: >Either that, or they're sick and tired of seeing the same people over and
: >over as they go from class to class...
: >-- 
: >Scott B. Weaver		Internet: sweaver3@mach1.wlu.ca
: >"Dream Weaver"		UUCP: ...!torn!watserv2.uwaterloo.ca!mach1!sweaver3
: >Patience comes to 	Snail: 2C-264 Regina Street North
: >those who wait...	       Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2J 3B7
: 
:  I haven't had any problems whatsoever with the folks from Mt.Allison college.
: 
: Scott
: 
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that I had any problems with the people at
Mount A. (university, by the way).  I was just observing that they have
just discovered a world that exists beyond the Radio Canada International
towers in the middle of the marsh.  Of course, they're all going to flock
to this, and get as much as possible out of it.
(My sister is probably laughing at all of this.  She goes to Mount A as
well.  (Hi Heidi!))

-- 
Scott B. Weaver		Internet: sweaver3@mach1.wlu.ca
"Dream Weaver"		UUCP: ...!torn!watserv2.uwaterloo.ca!mach1!sweaver3
Patience comes to 	Snail: 2C-264 Regina Street North
those who wait...	       Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2J 3B7
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
From: jwootto4@mach1.wlu.ca (juanita wootton 9209 U)
Subject: Hello, I'd like some e-mail! :-)
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:40:14 GMT

	Hi!  I've been reading the penpal net for a few months now and have
decided to take the plunge of sending an article out into the world.
I'm an English major at WLU, and I like music, Ren and Stimpy, and writing
letters.  I'd like to hear from anybody, whatever their interests might be.
Thanks!

Juanita Wootton
jwootto4@mach1.wlu.ca
From: Mega_Tech_Consultants@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
Subject: Wanted Penpals
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 22:05:39 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

If you would like a "Great" penpal from Las Vegas, Nevada...send me a note.
I promise to reply to every letter.
Randy Soard
70743.300@compuserve.com
Rsoard@cup.portal.com
From: industry@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Mark A Bialik)
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
Subject: Re: crobertson
Date: 27 Jan 1993 03:52:13 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.30

>I'm glad to see David is successfully exporting our Bill or Rights! 

Was our Bill of Rights designed to be exported?

-- 
Mark A. Bialik  AT&T: (414)271-1619   USMail: 1864 Cambridge #3
Department of Political Science               Milwaukee, WI  53202
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
InterNET: industry@convex.csd.uwm.edu (or) industry@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
From: jennona@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (nona jennifer maryam)
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
Subject: Looking for penpals from the U.K.
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:22:32 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Actually, I wouldn't mind corresponding with anyone from anywhere.

I'm an Engineering student at the University of Illinois, although my
interests extend well beyond applied science.               

I promise to respond to everyone!

Your friend, Jennifer
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
From: bterry@mta.ca
Subject: troublemakers
Reply-To: bterry@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:17:19 GMT

I would like to apologize to all you annoyed netters who have been subjected
to the inane bickering that has been going on lately. My sole purpose was
to defend Mt. Allison U. from getting utterly bashed. Unfortunately, in doing
so ,I helped perpetuate that which I tried to stop in the first place. Many
of you are already set in your opinion about Mt.A, and about crobertson & I
in particular. I hope, however, that those of you who are already writing
to people here ( myself included!) haven't also given up on this place.
We're really not all that bad; we just get carried away sometimes....
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
Subject: A Swedish Viking looking for penpals
From: perra@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:54:56 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

Hi my name is Per Cedersund

I'm a Swedish student who studdies in Mankato, Minnesota.
I came here at the first of Jan and I'm going to stay here until
Jun.
I'm 23 years old, and my biggest interrest in life are music and sports.
In Sweden I live in Gothenburg.
I'd like penpals from all over the world and especially girls.

My adress is Perra@VAX1.Mankato.MSUS.EDU

Bye !                                      ~
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
From: jhelling@cs.ruu.nl (Jeroen Hellingman)
Subject: Re: japanese girl wants foreign penpals
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:00:21 GMT
Distribution: soc.penpals
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science

if iinterested, mail me your paper-mail address, and I will send it to some
Indian female pen-pals of mine, who want to have penpals in Japan.

-- 
Jeroen Hellingman                 E-mail: <jhelling@cs.ruu.nl>
't Zand 2                         Phone: +31-3473-73935 (home)
4133 TB Vianen                    (18.00--21.00 GMT)
The Netherlands                   Answer in English, German, or Dutch.
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
Subject: Re: Is there anybody out there i.e.men ?!
From: jthomas@hotcity.COM (Jerry Thomas)
Date: 22 Jan 93 00:58:46 PST
Organization: BBS

Hello my name is Jerry and i go to Cabrillo College in SANTA CRUZ, CA. Welll
I'm about 6' 1" tall and i like computer a lot I'm going to be taking Computer
Program in College and maybe some classes in Telecom. classes i hope will it
kinda later out here so i hope you write back :)  seeya (HUGS)
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
From: sussman@cs.cornell.edu (Stephen H. Sussman)
Subject: Re: ren and stimpy
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:40:09 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.233602.6565@cs.cornell.edu> sussman@cs.cornell.edu (Stephen H. Sussman) writes:
>In article <1993Jan27.211035.18530@bmw.mayo.edu> tcg@mayo.edu writes:
>>In article 12340@cs.cornell.edu,  sussman@cs.cornell.edu (Stephen H. Sussman) writes:
>>>I hate that stupid f**king cartoon ...
>>>
>>>Just my $.02,
>>>Steve
>>>
>>
>>
>>If you want *lots* of e-mail, post that statement to alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy, YOU
>>BLOATED SACK OF PROTOPLASM ...
>>
>
>Mr. Thomas Gerber, a man named after baby food, is going to call ME
>names?  Ooh, that hurts.
>
>Buddy, if you had an intelligent thought in your head it would be very
>lonely.  Maybe you should start posting to alt.brainless.wonders ...
>or perhaps alt.gerber.baby-food.between-the-ears ...
>
>-Steve-
>
>p.s.   ... or maybe alt.i'm.an.adult.and.I.still.watch.nickelodeon ?

Oh yes .. and now I get to say, "Oops, I forgot the smiley"  =)

-S-
From: gpkec@sun.pcl.ac.uk (Alan Hughes)
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
Subject: I'm SOOOO Bored!
Keywords: Mail, me, now
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:20:38 GMT
Distribution: soc.penpals
Organization: University of Westminster

Calling all bored people out there,

 Are you twiddeling your thumbs?  

 Bored of Revision?  

  Well have a break - No not a KitKat,   Mail me instead, because I'm more
 bored than you are - or your money back.

Waiting with open mail facility... 

Alan

Peace.
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