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From: edwin@cs.ruu.nl (Edwin Kremer)
Subject: Re: HP-UX 8.0 - /etc/exports & netgroups and NFS in general
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:25:16 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science

In <C1Dt2q.5t9@lysator.liu.se> pen@lysator.liu.se (Peter Eriksson) writes:

   | Another problem we've just ran into is that we seem to be unable to
   | mount files from the HP9K3?? on our SparcStation 1+ that runs
   | Solaris 2.1. We just seem to get an error complaining about
   | 
   |   "..RPC: Authentication error; why = Invalid client credential"

Oh yes... it's a bug... ah well, maybe it isn't, because it's
documented :-)  To put it mildly, it's a feature none of us likes...

It's not HP specific, although it occurs on the extremely out-of-date
version of NFS that HP supports upto 8.0x (I'm told 9.0x will be based on
Sun NFSSRC4.0/4.1).

It has to do with users belonging to more than 8 groups. If `root' on the
client belongs to more than 8 groups, the mount request will fail. If some
other user does, NFS operations for that user will fail.

The old version rejects the credential, the newer behaviour is to truncate
the group list to the max. number of groups the server will support.

Check out /usr/include/rpc/auth_unix.h on your system(s); on my 8.05
system: (funny, notice the `10' and the `8' below ?!?!?!?)

/* gids compose part of a credential; there may not be more than 10 of them */
#define NGRPS 8




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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: hpcg9070@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (H Prasad Cherukuri)
Subject: Can't find this panic error in the error messages book
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:14:02 GMT

The other day while I was using our HP (series 400, HP-UX 8.0), the machine just
crashed with the following message:

	panic: E_HW_NOT_STP7
	    
It dumped about 26mb of core to dev 0x70e0600, offset 180533.

When this happened, I was only using the HP to telnet to another
machine. And no one else was running any processes either.

I rebooted it afterwards and it is working fine now. My question is
what does the above panic message mean? I looked into the error
messages book and there is no mention of this error(although there
are other panic errors mentioned).

The dumped core seems to be awfully big to me. So while rebooting
does this get deleted or do I have to delete it manually? 

I appreciate any help in this regard.

harish cherukuri
hpcg9070@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: r1yc@vax1.cc.uakron.edu (Yutang Chuang)
Subject: hp-ux 9.0 form 835 serving diskless ws
Organization: The University of Akron, Akron, Ohio
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:27:56 GMT

Sorry if this is not the right place to ask.

Will the HP-UX 9.0 for 9000/835 still provide support for the 835 as a
server serving 300/400 diskless workstations? I hope somebody can help
me clarify on this. Thanks.

-- 
Yutang Chuang           Internet:       r1yc@vax1.cc.uakron.edu
From: neal@ctd.comsat.com (Neal Becker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: lemacs 19.4 on HP?
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:09:50 GMT
Organization: COMSAT Labs
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In-reply-to: fkittred@spchp13.BBN.COM's message of 26 Jan 93 12:59:04 GMT
X-Md4-Signature: b6a2a880b0da41ad3ff6927e37f14085

I have been working on this port (I did the port of 19.3).  So far it
does *not* work.  It seems OK at first, but when using gnus to read
large newsgroups, memory is trashed.

This happens with /bin/cc, and with gcc2.3.3 with or without #define
SYSTEM_MALLOC, with or without linking with dbmalloc, with or without
optimization.  I've given up for now, I strongly suspect this is not
an hp-specific problem.

If you get it to work let me know.
From: robs@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Rob Slotemaker CRC)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:54:49 GMT
Subject: Re: DDS distribution (was: Patching policies of HP)
Organization: HP-Sales Office-The Netherlands
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

Thanks for your comments. We are always pleased with comments which can lead
to improvements, but I am personally not in a position to implement the
improvements just right now. But let me give you some notes.

You wrote "HP uses a periodical patching mechanism known as DART tapes".
I think it is better not to use the word "patching" in this. We (Response
Center Engineers) speak about patching when we send the customer a patch
(called PHxx_nnnn). According to the documentation sent with each DART, the
DART media includes one or more of the latest application products newly
developed or updated by HP.

One improvement has already been taken care of partially. As per DART 7
customers with CD-ROM media only receive a new one when one or more of the
products that are part of the contract has been updated. I don't know the
details of DAT media, but there is difference between CD-ROM and DAT. CD-ROM
media always contains all products, which are codeword protected. DAT media
only contains products which are part of a customer's contract. So I can
imagine that, when no product as part of a contract has been changed, we don't
send an empty tape :-).

The fileset document indeed is a large document and for those not familiar
with reading such documents it indeed can be difficult to understand and get
only the information you need from it. Maybe the document should be
"customized" for each contract. I will see if I can initiate actions to let
people at least think about that.

I am glad your local support people could help you with the Allbase revision
problem. Let's hope such problem don't occur very often.

I personally think DART is a nice mechanism to get new or updated applications
to the installed base. Are there any other things you think need to be
improved ?


Best regards,

Rob Slotemaker, Dutch Response Center

From: cford@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Charlie Ford)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 23:01:31 GMT
Subject: Re: Another laserrom query
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

Hardy wrote:

> I was wondering if it is possible to replace the man-pages on disk by
> some sort of symbolic links to the same man-pages stored on the
> Documentation CD?

No. The data are in a proprietary format and are unwrapped etc. by the lrom UI.

> I know that I can access them via the lrom browser, even from a lowly
> terminal but that is sometimes too cumbersome (and I occasionally want
> to look at them in emacs. I could free up some disk space for the

It would be nice ...


Charlie Ford

Hewlett-Packard Co.
Mountain View, CA
charlie@hpasdd.mayfield.hp.com 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: will@austin.ibm.com (Will Fiveash)
Subject: Re: HP-UX usleep equivalent?
Originator: will@vulcan.austin.ibm.com
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:55:04 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: IBM, Austin, Tx.

Thanks for the replies.  I found the most transparent way to get my
code to compile was with CFLAGS = -DHP-UX -DHP-UXA .  I didn't have to
change a thing source wise.

-- 
Will Fiveash,  "My opinions above, facts below."
Internet:  will@austin.ibm.com
From: stuart@TIVOLI.COM (Stuart Jarriel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: A directory that CANNOT be removed.
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:18:38 GMT
Organization: Tivoli Systems, Inc

I have gotten lots of advice WRT this post.  I suspect now is a good time
to follow-up with what I do know.

The directory has both "." and ".." in it.

If you run strings on "." (the undeletable directory) it shows files that
were in it at one point in time.

The link count on "." is correct.

If you run fsck on the filesystem, it corrects 3 problems and after fsck
finishes you can delete it.

Ive also gotten advice about using unlink, which I also think will work, but
Im much more cautious now that I know the filesystem is corrupting.

Thanks for the advice! I will post the final resolution as soon as we get one.
stuart
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: tclark@hptc.mentorg.com (0)
Subject: Re: 730 -> 735 upgrade
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:55:19 GMT
Organization: Watsamatta U
Keywords: upgrade
Followup-To: 

In article <1993Jan21.153604.11235@news.mentorg.com>, gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com (Greg Cagle) writes:
|> In article <43779@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, xm9@sdcc12.ucsd.edu (richard g. adair) writes:
|> >We'd like to get an upgrade for our 730 to a 735, but our local HP
|> >office can't get much useful information about what you actually get
|> >with the upgrade.  Does anybody know if the 735 resulting from the
|> >upgrade is exactly the same as a 735 ordered new?  In particular,
|> >are the SCSI ports the same?  What about memory?  Can one re-use
|> >disks and such from the original 730?  What version of HP-UX is
|> >required?
|> 
|> You can use the same memory and disks; the motherboard comes with
|> an additional 16 meg on it, also. The upgrade replaces both the
|> CPU board and the I/O board, so the resulting I/O layout is the
|> same as a "real" 735 (it has the audio I/O and fast/wide SCSI
|> connections). You will need HP-UX 9.01.
|> 
|> Those of you with 720s will want to know that you must have the 
|> optional EISA slot upgrade installed to support the 735 upgrade.
|> 
|> - Greg
|> 
|> -- 
|> Greg Cagle | greg_cagle@mentorg.com
|> Mentor Graphics Corporation

The only other "difference" is that the new 735 can be outfitted with a
525 Meg or 1 Gig internal disk. I believe that the 730s originaly only had 
the 420 Meg as an internal option, now you can order a 730 and swap the
420 for a 525 and add a 1 Gig, but you cannot get a 730 with 2-1 Gig
drives internal (unless you toss out the 420/525).



-- 
T C

e-mail: tony_clark@mentorg.com
From: sbakke@xcuseme.MITRE.org (Steve Bakke)
Subject: Keyboards for the hp.
Organization: MITRE Corp. McLean Va.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 12:55:47 GMT


Does anyone know where I can get either a sun type 5 or ibm style
keyboard for an hp9000/720?

Thanks.
Steven M. Bakke
From: tml@tik.vtt.fi (Tor Lillqvist)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: lemacs 19.4 on HP?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 20:50:05 GMT
Organization: Technical Research Centre of Finland, Laboratory for Information
	Processing (VTT/TIK)
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tik.vtt.fi
In-reply-to: fkittred@spchp13.BBN.COM's message of 26 Jan 93 07:59:04

>>>>> On 26 Jan 93 07:59:04, fkittred@spchp13.BBN.COM (Fletcher Kittredge) said:
> Anyone have the fixes to Lucid Gnu Emacs version 19.4 to get it to run
> on HP-UX (version 8.07 or greater)?

Basically, no fixing needed! Put #define C_SWITCH_SYSTEM -Aa
-D_HPUX_SOURCE (and maybe -I/usr/include/X11R4) and #define
LD_SWITCH_SYSTEM -a archive (and maybe -L/usr/lib/X11R4) in s-hpux8.h,
that should be about all. (Ugh, of course there were some other
details, but I don't remember them right now... nothing much.) (I
compiled with X11R5, I'm not sure if it's as easy with the HP-supplied
X11R4.)

The lemacs I built seems to work OK, expect for an occasional abort()
in xterm.c. I haven't looked for the reason for that yet.
--
Tor Lillqvist,
working, but not speaking, for the Technical Research Centre of Finland,
Laboratory for Information Processing (VTT/TIK).
From: bs@Germany.EU.net (Bernard Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: A directory that CANNOT be removed.
Date: 21 Jan 1993 09:39:37 GMT
Organization: EUnet Backbone, Dortmund, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: qwerty.germany.eu.net

|> Stuart Jarriel (stuart@TIVOLI.COM) wrote:
|> Has anyone else been able (HPUX 8.07) to create a directory that 
|> cannot be removed?  ls with all of it's options fails to show any
|> files in it, a program using scandir() thinks it's empty, yet 
|> rm -f or rmdir tells me that it cannot be deleted, it's not empty.

Have you ls -ai'd it to find out the inode numbers of . and .. and compared
them to the actual parent directory and the directory itself (from "above") ?

Just a thought.

-Bernard
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From: glenm@ephor.tusc.oz.au (Glen McCallum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: select() behavior on a pipe
Date: 21 Jan 93 03:22:27 GMT
Organization: TUSC Computer Systems Pty Ltd.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ephor.tusc.oz.au

In <8321@tivoli.UUCP> stuart@TIVOLI.COM (Stuart Jarriel) writes:

>I am trying to work with a chunk of code that does a select() on a named
>pipe to watch for possible commands.  

>This works just fine as long as there is a writer on the pipe at all times.
>But if the writer exec's, writes and exits, the select will always return
>with data indicated on the pipe, even though there is none available.

>This behavior is different than other systems, and I wonder if it isnt
>something in the my code rather than an HPUX problem.  Has anyone ever
>worked with this?

>stuart

Yes.  I have seen this bug.  On HP-UX when using select(2) on pipes, if an
exceptional condition occurs, the 'read' fd_mask is erroneously set instead
of the 'exception' fd_mask.
A workaround is to fstat(2) the pipe to verify whether or not data is actually
there ..

>(sample code...)

.. earlier stuff deleted ..

struct stat	statb;

>	tv.tv_sec = 5;
>	tv.tv_usec = 0;
>	readmask = 1 << fd;
>	fd_mask = readmask;

>	printf("into select\n");
>	while(1) {
>		if (select(fd+3, &readmask, 0, 0, &tv)) {
>			if (readmask & fd_mask) {
			    if (fstat(fd, &statb) < 0) {
				fprintf(stderr, "fstat(2) bombed\n");
			    } else if (statb.st_size > 0) {
>				size = TST_SIZE;
>				cntr++;
>				if ((retval = read_packet(buf, size)) < 0) {
>					printf("%d read_packet = %d, errno =  %d\n", 
>							cntr, retval, errno);
>				} else {
>					printf(".");
>				}
			    } else {
				fprintf(stderr, "pipe has been broken\n");
				/* .. and other error-type stuff .. */
			    }
>			}
>		} else {
>			printf("-");
>			fflush(stdout);
>		}
>	}
>}

Note that fstat(2) is not guaranteed to work with pipes according to POSIX.1,
but I have used this kind of technique successfully with HP-UX 8.0 and
SCO-ODT 1.0/1.1.

--
------------------------ Glen McCallum (glenm@tusc.oz.au) ----------------------

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: tom@wsm.com (Tom Johnson)
Subject: Re: DAT between HP and SUN
Organization: Western Scientific
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:44:09 GMT

wmadden+@pitt.edu (William E Madden) writes:
: 
: We have a customer who has an HP 750 with the typical DAT tape drive.  He also
: has a Sun box that he wants to share tapes with, if not the drive.  Is
: it possible to get a tape written on the HP DAT drive to be readable on the Sun
: or vice versa?  HP Tech support said they didn't know......  If not, would
: it be possible to put the HP drive on the Sun and have it work?  
: 
: Unfortunately, since the installation is involved in defense work, they can't
: transfer data over the net (or even hook the damn thing up to the net....) so 
: the only thing they can do is share tapes....
: 
: Thanks in advance,
: 	Bill
: 
: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
: William E. Madden Jr.			| I promise not to express any opinions
: Computational Diagnostics, Inc.		| in this message if you promise not to 
: Pittsburgh, PA 				| say CDI would agree with me. 
: madden@cdi.com				|
: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
: 		"Bad cop! No doughnut!" - Anonymous
: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

William,

	The above will work. Your best bet is to get another HP DAT of like
type and put it on his Sun. (2GB 35470A, or 8GB 35480A). Make sure the firmware
rev level is at least 8.0 or 9.09 and properly configured for the Sun Sparc     
SCSI bus environment (We make them if you cant find drive config'd for Sun as
opposed to HP workstations). Then tar will be compatible across the HP to Sun
and back.

DONT use another type like Archive DAT or WangXXX DAT drives because they have
problems with read/write compatibility with HP DAT drives (HP is of course the
superior one).

	You could drag the drive from one machine to another but I dont 
recommend it because it requires internal and firmware modifacation to be
compatible with the Sun Workstation. Really too much work ripping apart the 
drive on a regular basis. Not to mention wear and tear on the HP and Sun
workstations SCSI buses.

	If you need more help let me know...

Regards,

Jeff Johnson
Dir of Engineering
Western Scientific
Systems and Peripherals
jeff@wsm.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.windows.x.motif
From: amga@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Anne Gale)
Subject: Re: OSF Keyboard mappings on HP
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:52:34 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta

In <C1Cv75.CB6@compsci.liverpool.ac.uk> mbell@csc.liv.ac.uk (Mike Bell) writes:

>I'm currently coding several Motif applications and was attempting to
>conform to the Motif Style guide. My problem is that I am not sure which
>keys to bind to on a HP720 for an Undo/Cut/Copy/Paste... menu.

>The style guide gives :

>Undo = Alt + Bkspace
>Cut  = Shift + Delete
>Copy = Ctrl + Insert
>Paste= Shift + Insert

>What keys should I bind to for a HP???

------------------------------------------------------------------------

The mapping of Motif virtual keys to physical keys on the standard
HP-HIL keyboard are as follows:

osfAddMode         -Shift F8
osfBackspace       -Back Space
osfBeginLine       -arrow key pointing to the upper left
osfCancel          -escape
osfClear           -clear display
osfDelete          -delete char
osfDown            -arrow key pointing down
osfEndLine         -F7
osfHelp            -F1
osfInsert          -Insert char
osfLeft            -arrow key pointing left
osfMenu            -F4
osfMenuBar         -F10
osfPageDown        -Next
osfPageUp          -Prev
osfPrimaryPaste    -Insert line
osfQuickPaste      -Delete line
osfRight           -arrow key pointing right
osfSelect          -Select
osfUp              -arrow key pointing up

So for what you need to do, I would do the following:

Undo = Alt + Bkspace          = Alt<Key>osfBackspace
Cut  = Shift + Delete         = Shift<Key>osfDelete
Copy = Ctrl + Insert          = Ctrl<Key>osfInsert
Paste= Shift + Insert         = Shift<Key>osfInsert

Hope this help,

Anne Gale
North American Response Center - Atlanta
Development Team

hpdesk:       Anne GALE/HP3019/01       Mail:   Hewlett-Packard
hp-ux mail:   amga@hpuerca.atl.hp.com           2000 South Park Place
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: ss@panix.com (Steve Steinberg)
Subject: Info needed for HP3000: PLEASE help
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 14:35:34 GMT

My company just aquired an HP 3000.  We bought a building and this
was found in the computer room, still warm.  My questions are as 
follows:

	Can it run HP-UX (or any other flavor)?

If not:

	Can it run TCP/IP and get an 802.3 connection?
	Can it run NFS?

I was considering using it for a file/mail/news server on our
network.

Thanks in advance, -- 
=====================================================================
=== Steve Steinberg   ==  ss@panix.com  == {cmcl2,apple}!panix!ss ===

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: pdt@athena.mit.edu (Patrick D Tepesch)
Subject: SLIP?
Keywords: SLIP
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:37:53 GMT

Forgive my ignorance, but what is SLIP?

Patrick Tepesch
pdt@mit.edu
From: cford@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Charlie Ford)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 22:38:32 GMT
Subject: Re: HP's CD-ROM drive (playing audio CDs and how it could be improved)
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

Just to beat this to death ...

> My only quibble would be that it doesn't drive a pair of headphones very well 
> even at maximum volume only the loudest cd's are loud enough ;)

That's what I thought (having listened through some $3 "walkman" clone 'phones)
until a friend let me try his Sony headphones - they're *quite a bit* more
efficent, e.g. loud . Sorry, don't know the model #; I think they were ~ $75.

Charlie Ford

Hewlett-Packard Co.
Mountain View, CA
charlie@hpasdd.mayfield.hp.com 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com (Greg Cagle)
Subject: Re: 425t upgrade to 715/33 t
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:50:27 GMT
Reply-To: greg_cagle@mentorg.com
Organization: Mentor Graphics
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

In article <1993Jan22.153229.15291@serval.net.wsu.edu>, mkibler@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Michael K. Kibler) writes:
>
>Also it appears that the 19" color monitor we are using on the 425 t will
>not work with 700 series (at least our 710s). I believe they switched from
>60HZ to 72HZ. The question is will the upgrade (board swap) work with our
>old 60HZ monitors?

We have installed a 715/50t in a 425 VRX color and it works fine.

- Greg
-- 
Greg Cagle | greg_cagle@mentorg.com
Mentor Graphics Corporation
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: raj@cup.hp.com (Rick Jones)
Subject: Re: Hitachi 3.7Gb SCSI disks.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:35:21 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

M.D.Cooper (mbdtsmc@uts.mcc.ac.uk) wrote: 
: We have been offered some very cheap (by U.K. Standards) disks. They
: are Hitachi 3.7 Gb SCSI drives and I've been assured by the salesman
: that there will be no problem hooking them up to our HP7[235]0
: ...
: Can anyone send me a disktab entry for them which will work?
: 

This might seem a little silly, but if the salesman really knows
enough to assure you that they will work, then I would think that he
would have (access to) a suitable disktab entry...

rick jones
these opinions are mine, all mine, others probably wouldn't want them anyway
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,gnu.gcc.help
From: markd@csqx.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk (Mark Damerell)
Subject: BSD on HP ???
Reply-To: markd@csqx.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk (Mark Damerell)
Organization: RHBNC
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:27:30 GMT


PLease has anybody got BSD running on the H-P series 700 machines?
If so, does it include NFS and/or NIS? How good are the installation
instructions?

My connection to News is very flaky; I would be grateful for direct 
replies.
Thank you, mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp