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From: neek+@NEEK.FAC.CS.CMU.EDU (Craig Marcus)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame,cmu.cs.framemaker
Subject: fmbib Rev 1.3 available via anon ftp
Date: 5 Nov 92 06:28:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.Bx94Fn.Cn3.1
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Originator: neek@NEEK.FAC.CS.CMU.EDU

I have posted the latest sources (Rev. 1.3) of fmbib - 
a Bibliography generation utility for use w/ FrameMaker to
2 anonymous ftp sites, for public consumption:

In the US:
	ftp.uu.net in /pub/text-processing/frame/fmbib.3_1.tar.Z
	    (or via uucp as: uunet!~/pub/text-processing/frame/fmbib.3_1.tar.Z )

In Europe:
    peanuts.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de 
				 in pub/etc/fmbib.tar.Z

You will need to uncompress and untar this file.  This revision contains some
minor bug fixes, additional notes on compilation, as well as a couple
of new features. 

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Brief synopsis:

fmbib takes a frame document (.mif format) as its input,
with "Bibliography" markers embedded where the references occur.
The marker text is that of a key word indexed into a bibliography database
file, such as Scribe's ".bib" files.  In fact, the program
is compatable with Scribe bibliography files.  The user can also
specify on the command line one of several reference
and bibliography styles.  fmbib will then generate a new FM .mif file which
is the actual bibliography.  The original document is modified to contain
cross-references to this new document.  These references appear as
visible text when the user updates cross-references in the original document.
The program also aids in creating new bibliography database files.

The sources have been built and tested under CMU's BSD4.3-compliant 
MACH OS, for Sun3, Sun4, Pmax, Vax, and IBM-RT workstations.  It should
be portable to any Unix box. 


Craig Marcus
SCS Facilities Staff
Carnegie Mellon University.
Pittsburgh, PA
USA

neek@neek.fac.cs.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: Phil Buxton  <Phil Buxton @BNR.ca>
Subject: Re: Keyboard commands in the para format box
Organization: Bell Northern Research
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 12:48:12 GMT

In article  Barbara Zayas, bjz@sei.cmu.edu writes:

>
>
>I'm running 3.1X on a Sun4.
>
>Very often when I use keyboard commands (ctrl-v, esc-v) to
>scroll through the Paragraph Format window, when I pass over
>the Numbering sheet, although I've not made ANY changes to
>that sheet (or any of the surrounding sheets a lot of the
>time), FM prompts me as to whether the changes should be
>applied or not before moving me from the Numbering sheet onto
>the next (or previous) sheet.

Im not on a SUN but I use a MAC and HP(Xwindows) and the 
way to page through the para format dialogs is via the 
next- and previous-page keys (or the F6 and F7 keys (HP))

Have you got such keys?  If you use these,you shouldn't get
a prompt-----I hope!!  I don't on my platforms.
=========================================================================
Phil Buxton        |BNR              |613 765 2980      |FAX 613 765 4908
philb@bnr.ca       |Ottawa, Canada   |ESN 395 2980      |ESN     395 4908
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: myhui@bnr.ca (Michael Hui)
Subject: advice sought: sequencing of master pages
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 18:55:15 GMT

I have a few (> 2) master pages defined, and want each to have an
attribute indicating that when I add a page manually (i.e.  not by
continueing to enter text that overflows the last column on a page),
the master page to use for the new page is specified.

Right now, on Framemaker 3.1, it always uses the first master page if
one adds a page manually. If Framemaker adds the page automatically due
to column overflow, is there then a way to enforce a sequence of usage
of these several master pages?
-- 
Michael MY Hui  ~{~}  myhui@bnr.ca  Ottawa Canada
From: rob@cs.man.ac.uk (Robert Marshall)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Cross referencing in .mml files
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:17:01 GMT
Reply-To: Robert Marshall <rajm@cs.man.ac.uk>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester


Does anyone have any .mml files that produce cross references when imported
into FrameMaker? I've tried putting markers with <MType 9> in the text
without result and I can't seem to get MML to accept XRef statements
which expect XRef substatements. An example of how to do it would be a
great help and I don't want (if it can be avoided) to have to produce
a MIF file.

Robert
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Room 3.08, IT Building, Department of Computer Science,
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From: marty@europe.irit.fr (marty)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: MIF files and lex/yacc
Date: 13 Nov 92 10:48:46 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: /users/irit3-user2/marty/.organization


  I would to know where to found any sources code lex/yacc for the analyse of
a MIF file. You can Email me I will summarise all the answers.

  Je voudrais savoir ou puis-je trouver un code source lex/yacc pour l'analyse
d'un fichier MIF. Vous pouvez repondre par Email je ferais un resume de toutes
les reponses.

Thanks. Merci.

Guy Marty
marty@irit.fr
From: cortesi@informix.com (David Cortesi)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Anyone doing chip datasheets out there?
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:50:29 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <SGREENE.92Nov10143316@penguin.nimbus.com> sgreene@nimbus.com (Spencer Greene) writes:
>... I have created some labor-saving scripts which do things that were
>taking a lot of time...
>
>Script 2: logicsym.awk
>This is an awk script which draws a chip logic symbol, with input,
>output, and bidirectional arrows.  I created the script because
>I was having trouble making things line up properly, and this
>does it automatically.

When building a diagram based on a set of standard widgets, it helps a
lot if you (1) set a relatively fine snap-grid, say 3.0pt, and (2) size
all of your widgets to multiples of your snap-grid spacing.

We did this to make "railroad diagrams" for program syntax (which must
be similar to making a circuit diagram), and it is wonderful how easily
the different pieces snap together with perfect alignment.
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: khor@bnr.ca (Kyle Hor)
Subject: Re: Portability of .DOC files?
Reply-To: khor@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:47:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.161926.28776@newsgate.sps.mot.com>, mario@wdc.sps.mot.com (Mario Nigrovic) writes:
|> Hello, all -
|> 
|>    We have the need to transfer a bunch of Frame files from our
|> local sun network to a bunch of apollos/hp700s.  The user at the
|> hp side (in Scotland) tells me that standard .doc files from the
|> SUN won't work for him.  Can any of you helpful souls out there
|> shed some light?  Thanks...
|>                                                      Mario

Frame claims that their binary files are portable across
platforms.  I'd tried Mac <-> HPUX <-> PC without any problems.
Sorry, I do not have access to a Sun to confirm that end.

But if in doubt, just generate the MIF format.

............................................................................
. Kyle Hor                    .    /       / _   .  Email  khor@bnr.ca     .
. Bell-Northern Research Ltd. .   /__\  / / /_\  .  Phone  (613) 763-2488  .
. Ottawa, Ontario, Canada     .  / \  \/ /  \__  .  ESN          393-2488  .
....................................__/.....................................
................  standard disclaimer, 2 cents opinion  ....................
.............  searching forever, for the perfect solution  ................
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: harding@sun444.nas.nasa.gov (Steve Harding)
Subject: Re: Xdefaults for placement of frame startup window
Organization: NASA/Ames Research Center
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 15:47:45 GMT

In article <BxKGx2.CKH@acsu.buffalo.edu> bsridhar@acsu.buffalo.edu (Sridhar B) writes:
>
>I have a problem with defining the geometry for the initial startup window that
>pops up when frame is started. I am running frame3.1x on X11R5 with twm using
>Sun OS 4.1.2 . When I specify the geometry thus:
>
>	Maker.makerkit.geometry:        322x66+831+140
>
>It doesn't work. Instead I get the dotted outline which I have to place myself.
>Any solutions?

We have just gone thru that exercise.  It is a Frame "known problem".  3.1x
pays no attention to geometry, unless you are using mwm.

steve
-- 
work:harding@nas.nasa.gov   play:steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (408.252.0578)
              A prince trapped in the body of a dirty old man.
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: southern@sunny.cgd.ucar.edu (Lawrence Buja)
Subject: Looking for detailed color .Xresources sample. (UNIX)
Organization: Climate and Global Dynamics Division/NCAR, Boulder, CO
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:46:42 GMT

I'm looking for a detailed sample .Xresources file for Frame on a color
Sun UNIX box.  If anyone has a good one, I'd really appreciate seeing
it.  

Thanks...

/\      Lawrence Buja           Climate and Global Dynamics Division
  \_][  southern@ncar.ucar.edu  National Center for Atmospheric Research
      \_________________________Boulder,_Colorado___80307-3000__________

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: pete@cs.curtin.edu.au (Peter Staples)
Subject: Re: equation editor problem
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:33:35 GMT

pete@cs.curtin.edu.au (Peter Staples) writes:

>how can I do the following in Frame,

>I have an equation which has different values for different x

>eg
>		f(x)    x < 0
>h(x) = {
>		g(x)    x > 0

>now how do i get the brace ([) to be resized to include both equations.
>Frame seems to resize braces fine for quotients etc, but, as far as I can
>tell has no means of entering and resizing a single {.

>If anyone out there can help could they please e-mail me on 
>pete@cs.curtin.edu.au
>or reply to this message

>thanx in advance peter.

hmmm I have found a nasty little way to get around this. If I brace a 
vertical list of equations I get a brace the size and thickness I desire.
I can then occlude the closing brace. Nasty I know but ......

peter.
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: rn11195@medtronic.COM (Robert Nehls)
Subject: Another Hypertext Question
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:15:52 GMT


I'm trying to create a hypertext document which will combine text with some
detailed pictures.  The pictures are of electronic components (hybrids, ICs,
etc.).  I have not been able to get any sort of decent picture using scanned
in pictures.  The pictures print out ok, but while looking at the document,
they look horrible.  I've tried scanning with a 300 dpi hewlitt-packard and
a 400 dpi xerox scanner.  The hewlitt-packard generated a tiff file and then
I filtered it to produce a .xwd file.  The xerox produced a Sun raster file.
I am using a Sparc station IPC with a 16 inch color high resolution monitor.
I know that the monitor is capable of producing almost photo quality
pictures as I have seen a number of gif and jpeg pictures.  Is there any way
of getting that type of quality into a Frame document?  If not, then my
hypertext document will probably be a waste of time.  Any help would be
appreciated. 

Thanks,

Bob Nehls                             Sr. Design Engineer
rn11195@sage.medtronic.com            (612)574-8559

Working Towards Full Life...
From: campbelr@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Bob Campbell)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:14:25 GMT
Subject: Re: Framemaker Figures and Captions
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame

>>What problems are there with embedding the figure in a single-cell
>>table?  That is what I have been doing.  It seems to have the same
>>effect.  

>The only real problem comes from the fact that to a table ``float''
>means something different than it does to a figure...

I asked about this in a different string.  Actually, you can make it
behave in exactly the same way.  Usually this involves placement of
the table anchor (and in normal tables, dinking with the orphan rows
setting.

>                                                    also, you cannot
>size table columns the same way you size anchored frames, etc.  

How do you mean?  Resizing the contents?

> This
>again points out the basic problems with Framemaker: in order to make
>the correct choice (to use one-celled tables (amoebae?) versus
>anchored frames versus ...) the user *has* to know *all* of the
>technical details and must make that choice themselves.  You can't
>simply provide a document style (a la LaTeX) and just give the user a
>few simple commands.  Framemaker forces you to confront such arcane
>things as point size, line spacing, etc. each and every time you open
>a menu!

Well, I have defined different paragragh and character types that mimic
an HP-internal document format and have found that it is rather simple.
If you mean that the temptation is always there to use all of those
neat widgets making the document a bit schizo, I see your point.

>Oh well.  I got what I need for the current document.  Now if I can
>only remember it when I need to write the next document...

I hear you there.

> /Joe
> A true LaTeX fan forced into bondage to Framemaker...

Bob, 
Doesn't want to be making documentation anyways :-)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: khor@bnr.ca (Kyle Hor)
Subject: Print to file (was Re: Frame on PC's (MS Windows))
Reply-To: khor@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:51:54 GMT

In article <1391@bridge2.NSD.3Com.COM>, div@NAD.3Com.COM (Dinesh Venkatachalam x5498) writes:
|> 
|> P.S: Is there any way similar to Frame on SUN to print the output to a postscript
|> file from the Menu command on the PC. I can get it only to print to a printer.
|> 
Dunno 'bout the SUN, but on HPUX's version of frame, the print box has an
option to print to a file.  It takes up almost an entire line right at
the bottom of the box.
-- 
............................................................................
. Kyle Hor                    .    /       / _   .  Email  khor@bnr.ca     .
. Bell-Northern Research Ltd. .   /__\  / / /_\  .  Phone  (613) 763-2488  .
. Ottawa, Ontario, Canada     .  / \  \/ /  \__  .  ESN          393-2488  .
....................................__/.....................................
................  standard disclaimer, 2 cents opinion  ....................
.............  searching forever, for the perfect solution  ................
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: pas@jupitercmc.ca (Peter Stokes)
Subject: firing up viewer
Reply-To: pas@jupiter.ic.cmc.ca
Organization: Canadian Microelectronics Corporation
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:23:13 GMT

Hi.  I have a large software application installed on my
system from Cadence Design Systems.   It is a IC design tool
and all documentation is online in Frame format.   When 
using the tool, I can click on a HELP icon at anytime.   This
fires up Frame Viewer and opens the correct document to the 
correct page (hyper tags are passed via remote procedure calls).
The problem is I have been unable to use Frame Viewer from 
outside the Cadence tool framework.   Viewer starts up but 
immediately reports: "viewer: unable to get a license".   If I 
set the FRAMEUSERSD_HOST environment variable to a host in our 
office with Frame MAKER licenses, I get a useable Frame MAKER.  
My questions:

Is Frame Viewer licensed?   Where is the license file?
Is it possible to use viewer as I wish?   What's the trick?

Peter

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Peter A. Stokes ~~~~~~~~ pas@jupiter.ic.cmc.ca ~~~~~~~ (613) 545-2923 ~~~~~
Canadian Microelectronics Corporation ~~~~~~~~~~~ Kingston, Ontario, Canada
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: kent@updike..sri.com (Kent Peterson)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Possible to shrink-wrap text columns?
Keywords: shrink-wrap, text columns, resize
Date: 10 Nov 92 03:47:00 GMT
Distribution: na

Is there a FrameMaker command/dialogue box/attribute that will make a text
column "auto-size" to the text included in it (i.e., a text column that
"shrink-wraps" to the vertical dimension of the enclosed text)? Ditto for auto-
sizing frames.

I'm trying to write a report with figure captions of variable
lengths.  Right now, I'm setting up an anchored frame containing the EPS
figure and a text column with the figure caption.  Each time I make a new
figure (and caption) I have to "hand-craft" the vertical dimensions of the
text column and the frame.  Is there any way to have FrameMaker do this
automatically?

Please respond to  "kent_peterson@qm.sri.com"  Thanks.
Newsgroups: cmu.cs.framemaker,comp.text.frame
From: bjz@sei.cmu.edu (Barbara Zayas)
Subject: Keyboard commands in the para format box
Organization: Software Eng. Inst.;Carnegie-Mellon U.; Pittsburgh, PA 15213   _USA_
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:41:25 GMT



I'm running 3.1X on a Sun4.

Very often when I use keyboard commands (ctrl-v, esc-v) to
scroll through the Paragraph Format window, when I pass over
the Numbering sheet, although I've not made ANY changes to
that sheet (or any of the surrounding sheets a lot of the
time), FM prompts me as to whether the changes should be
applied or not before moving me from the Numbering sheet onto
the next (or previous) sheet.

This has happened often enough that I know that I've not
inadvertently/unknowingly changed anything on that page...it
just prompts me out of the blue.

This doesn't happen when I use the mouse to click through the
Properties Box of the Paragraph Format window -- it only
happens when I use the keyboard commands.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Thanks.
Barbara



Barbara Zayas				Software Engineering Institute
Information Management			Carnegie Mellon University
bjz@sei.cmu.edu				(412) 268-6378
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: mwightma@t4rta-gw.den.mmc.com (Mike Wightman)
Subject: Re: Page numbering in generated files
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics, Denver
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:22:58 GMT

In article <GERRY.92Nov6163012@onion.cmu.edu>, gerry@cmu.edu (Gerry Roston) writes:
|> Today, I started what will be a large document.  I decided that this
|> document will be numbered on a per chapter basis, like the FrameMaker
|> manuals, you know, 1-1, 1-2, ..., 2-1, 2-2...
|> 
|> So, I set up a running header/footer and the page numbers appeared
|> properly.  I created a book file and hey!  it still worked properly.
|> Then, I set up the TOC file.  To make a long story short, it appears
|> that to get the chapter number to preceed the page number in the TOC
|> file (and all other generated files), you have to manually insert the
|> chapter number in the file setup dialog window (from the book file).

No, you do not have to insert the chapters manually.  In the book file,
Go to each section and use Set Up File (under the File heading in the
book).  This will allow you to restart page numbering, paragraph numbering
and also allow you to include prefix and suffixes to the page numbering in
generated files.

So for section 2, you would place "2-" in the prefix.
From: pla_jfr@sld64pki-nbg.philips.de (joachim friedrichs)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Recovering files
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:01:15 GMT
Reply-To: pla_jfr@pki-nbg.philips.de
Organization: Philips Kommunikations Industrie AG Nuernberg, Germany


In article <1992Nov6.132858.19338@digicomp.com>, djd@digicomp.com (Dan Driscoll) writes:
 
|> We have 2 corrupted Frame files.  No .backup and no .recover
|> exist.  Our backup tape from that time period is only a monthly
|> and contains the corrupted file.  The byte count is high on
|> both corrupted files.
 
|> Can anyone recommend how we go about recovering these files without
|> re-creating them?

Try to open the corrupted document with fmbook and save as mif file.
From: bsridhar@acsu.buffalo.edu (Sridhar B)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Problems with Paragraph formats.
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:34:55 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo
Originator: bsridhar@mordred.eng.buffalo.edu


Anyone had this problem before?

	When you specify a format for a paragraph, say you click the "Keep
With" option (either Next or Previous) on. Then apply. Then if you don't want
it anymore, you can't seem to get rid of it. Any hints?

Sridhar
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: wiseman@tellabs.com (Jeff Wiseman)
Subject: How to use variable text in autonumbered para's
Organization: Tellabs, Lisle,IL
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:45:36 GMT


I have a document that is composed of several 1-3 page sections, each section
of which is assigned a unique, non-consecutive number (e.g. TN-RGT-03 or
UT-FT-01). Part of each section consists of a special series of paragraphs
that need to also have unique and possibly non-consecutive numbers based on the
section number (e.g. TN-RGT-03-01 or UT-FT-01-aa).

The goal is to be able to generate a List Of Paragraphs file that has all of
these special individual paragraph numbers in it along with the section numbers
(and possibly section heading text). The goal is also to have the
original document in as easy to use template as possible since inexperienced
or infrequent framemaker users will be using it (e.g. the use of cross
references is out unless they can somehow be programmed into the template's
autonumbering scheme).

Assuming that only paragraph text or numbering is going to be transported
through a generate of a list of paragraphs, it seems that the autonumbering of
the individual paragraphs need to somehow "pull-in" the section number as a
prefix. Is this possible? If not, is there some alternative way of achieving
this? It would be a cinch if everything was sequentially autonumbered but they
are not.

If you could put user variable names into autonumber formats, that would work
too but this doesn't appear possible.

Any ideas?


-- 
Jeff Wiseman:	....uunet!tellab5!wiseman OR wiseman@TELLABS.COM
From: yvonne@archer.Eng.Sun.COM ()
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Margin Head Tag
Date: 13 Nov 1992 16:21:01 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: yvonne@archer.Eng.Sun.COM ()
NNTP-Posting-Host: archer


I am trying to create a margin head tag for a document
that will allow the head to be in one type of font
and the body of text to be in another as follows:

Head		Body Text.......................
		Body Text......................


Is there any easy way to do this?

Thanks,

Yvonne Tornatta

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame