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From: valsta@kuusi.metla.fi (Lauri Valsta)
Subject: Re: SUM: How to get MacX (In English)
Keywords: MacX, eXodus, X-window
Organization: Metsantutkimuslaitos
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 07:11:35 GMT

atinoue@sevax1.cse.canon.co.jp (Atsushi Inoue) writes:

>	MacX:
>		Vrey true to X-windows enviroment
>		Good handling of rootless window
>		
>		Slow, memory eater( even with 5Mb you can get "out of
>		memory" message)
>		doesn't communicate with Ultrix

I have been working with a DecStation under Motif. I don't know
where there is a problem.

>		Has problem with CLUT

>	eXodus:
>		can communicate with Ultrix

>		Slow, memory eater
>		Has problem with CLUT	

-- 
| Lauri T. Valsta   Finnish Forest Research Institute |
| valsta@metla.fi   Helsinki, Finland                 |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: tmaddox@netcom.com (Tom Maddox)
Subject: Volume Needs Repair
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 04:25:57 GMT

	I'm using System 7.01 with Tuneup on a IIsi with the usual slew of
inits, etc., including Autodoubler in the most recent version.  The hard drive
is divided into three partitions with Silverlining 5.28.

	I've been using Disk First Aid 7.1, and have discovered that most of 
the time it tells me that the startup volume needs repair; it repairs the
volume and says everything's fine, but if I do the same thing a few startups
and shutdowns later, it needs repair again.

	 A few questions:

	first, what is *wrong* that is being repaired?

	second, why does it keep happening, and is there any way I can
find out how to stop it?

	Thanks,


-- 
				Tom Maddox
		    	    tmaddox@netcom.com
	"That's a bird bone, chair, Bob.  I don't know if I should sit there."
				Tom Waits
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: cary@jove.Colorado.EDU (John R. Cary)
Subject: Appletalk Internet Router 3.0?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 01:01:10 GMT

Has this come out yet?  Any comments on it?
-- 
--------------------------
John R. Cary                                  cary@boulder.colorado.edu
Department of Astrophysical, Planetary and Atmospheric Sciences
University of Colorado, Boulder, CO 80309-0391
ph. (303) 492-1489                                   fax (303) 492-0642
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: anil@cs.titech.ac.jp (Anil Bhatia)
Subject: LAYO resource missing in sys 7?
Organization: Tokyo Institute of Tech., Dept. of Computer Science, Japan
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:51:13 GMT

In system 6 Finder you used to be able to edit a LAYO resource which 
specified how many files you wanted open etc.
One of the MOST useful things about this resource was that you
could also edit the TITLE window so that a double click on the
title would activate the PARENT window. 
System 7 finder does not have this resource.
Any ideas/suggestions etc.
Many thanks
Please reply to me by e-mail and I will post a summary of all
the answers.
Anil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: monitn@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Nicholas Monitto)
Subject: Re: Why does 7.1 system need 9921k?
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 00:56:49 GMT

slow@ferrari.cray.com (David Slowinski) writes:

>The 7.1 system on my Mac II ci seems to use lots of
>memory even when I boot without INIT's from a floppy.

>Radius Precision Color Display/20 with 8 bit color card
>Virtual memory: OFF
>disk cache: 512k

>memory:              16384k
>System software:      9921k
>Largest unused block: 6437k

>Can this be normal?  I have no idea where to look for 
>the culprit.  I welcome any suggestions.

This probably isn't the only answer you'll receive, but...

Turn on 32-bit addressing in the Memory control panel to use more than 8 Megs
of memory. The extra in your machine (8 Megs) is added to your system allotment
when you're in 24-bit mode.

Nick
monitn@rpi.edu

>Thank you kindly,

>David Slowinski
>slow@cray.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.programmer
From: js@phil.ruu.nl (Jeroen Scheerder)
Subject: Re: SADE --- the worst debugger I ever used!!!!!
Reply-To: Jeroen.Scheerder@phil.ruu.nl
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 14:11:19 GMT

[...]

>> IS THERE ANOTHER AND BETTER DEBUGGER OUT THERE?

Sure, get TMON Pro. Nice one.
From: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Duo's: Are Redundant Systems A Good Idea?
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:16:31 GMT
Reply-To: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
Distribution: na

scott@rhombus.cs.jhu.edu (Scott Smith) writes:

>The only solution I know of is to create a RAM Disk and put a minimal
>system folder there (make aliases for the noncritical stuff, pointing
>to the hard disk version), and make the RAM disk your startup disk.
>And, never shut down, only sleep or restart.  Keep a backup system
>folder on your hard disk.  Now you get two boot chances, one with the
>RAM disk and another with your main disk.  

Sounds good in principle.  I used to boot from Ram disc on my 140.
Aside from having to dedicate 6 meg to the disc get a fully functional
system, if for any reason the power gets flinky, like when the battery
moves around a little in it's compartment, common on normal Powerbooks
when transporting them on a motorcycle, like I do, you get hosed.
Although I believe it's ok to remove the battery of a sleeping DUO,
and not trash it, unlike the other Powerbooks (save the 100).

Basically, anything that would waste your RAM disc will hose your
machine.  When my RAM disc would crash, it still thought it was the
boot volume, and hung trying to boot from a now garbage "disc".  I had
to use a floppy to recover.  You'll "usually" be ok, but I'd trust
my hard drive more.

Of course, if you had a floppy, or you could hook your machine up via
the dock you don't have to another machine, you could create two
partitions on your single hard drive, and dedicate one just to be a
system volume, and put a backup on the other partition.  You can't do
that unless you can back up the drive first though.  So, once you have
the dock, alleviating the worry, you can do something about it :-).

>Now suppose my disk crashes and needs reformatting.  Can I do all this
>from my RAM disk? 

If you can still boot, and you have all the utilities copied onto your
RAM disc (not just aliases), then yes.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: dencisco@eos.arc.nasa.gov (David Paul Encisco)
Subject: A command key to "Hide"?
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:29:39 GMT

Is there an extension, control panel application, or an
Fkey that allows me to type a command key sequence that
utilizes the hide function? Some times I need to hide
an application quickly.

Thanks,
Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: reriksso@klaava.Helsinki.FI (era eriksson)
Subject: Re: File copy unsuccessful -- what to do?
Organization: .ObJoke
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 10:47:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.030856.25495@ntg.com> dplatt@ntg.com (Dave Platt) writes:
 > >Often when I try to copy a few files to a disk more than a month old, I
 > >get a message (in Finnish; can't give you the exact English wording but
 > >you'll recognize this one) telling me that the copy operation was
 > >unsuccessful, and offering me the options to either Cancel the copying
 > >or Continue. 
<...brevity...>
 > Good-quality floppies, used in a clean well-maintained Mac floppy drive,
 > should not be developing bad blocks with any regularity.  The fact that
 > you're being hit by this problem so often suggests that [1] you may be
 > using a poor grade of floppy disk, or [2] your diskette drive may be out
 > of repair, or dirty.

Since this seems to be one of the standard answers, I might as well fill
in the blanks. I use whatever I have -- mostly "good-quality" disks
(TDK, Maxell, Parrot, that lot) -- but the "quality" of the disks
doesn't really seem to matter. What I do is I lug them around a lot.
They're duly protected, in disk box && dust jacket, but admittedly they
get a lot of abuse. 

I have loads of "indispensable" freeware utilities and most of my own
work on these disks. Never really had any problem with losing any of it
(I make frequent backups of everything I don't want to lose) but it can
be really annoying when you need a copy of UnStuffit and the disk just
won't work. 


-- 
/* era */

-- 
era eriksson      .ObQuote: <none>    .ObDiscl: I rarely know what I'm doing
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Distribution: world
From: starsabre@ultramac.uucp (JT August)
Organization: Odyssey Ultraware, Inc
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 09:32:19 CDT
Subject: Re: INIT file conflicts

I have all the inits you list except SuperClock, and have no conflict problems.

Try altering the names slightly by adding lettres to the front of the name to
change the alphabetical sequence they load in.  Tha might help (solved a problem
I had with an older init I nolonger use).

John

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.programmer
From: ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer)
Subject: Re: SADE --- the worst debugger I ever used!!!!!
Organization: Netcom. San Jose, California
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 23:20:47 GMT

peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce) writes ...
> maennig@siggi.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Olaf Maennig) writes:
>> Okay, that's what I went through the last few weeks. Now, the most important
>> question to me: IS THERE ANOTHER AND BETTER DEBUGGER OUT THERE?
>
>Most professional programmers I know use Jasik's The Debugger.  It's
>worth its weight in gold when you are deep into debugging your code.
>
>It's not perfect, the user interface is a bid hard to learn at first,
>but once you're up to speed it's a real pleasure to use.

I'll say the user interface is a bit hard to learn.  I think it's an
understatement to say that the user interface sucks big time.  But it
_is_ a pretty capable debugger.

-- 
Ray Fischer                   "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth
ray@netcom.com                 than lies."  -- Friedrich Nietszsche
From: tims@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: System 7.1, fonts & FreeHand 3.1
Date: 31 Dec 92 10:45:42 CST
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

I'm using a Mac IIci with System 7.1.  While printing with Aldus FreeHand 
3.1, the postscript fonts I'm using suddenly cannot be found, and are 
turned into bitmaps!  I have upgraded to ATM 3.0 and moved my fonts into 
the Fonts folder, but FreeHand does not seem able to find the fonts to 
download to my HP LaserJet 4M.

Any suggestions????

Please?

Thanks,

TiM
From: kwix@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: ramdisk and Hard Drive Access on a Powerbook
Date: 24 Dec 92 16:49:53 EST
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell University

Hello netters,

I just upgraded my pb100 to 8 megs of ram, and I was hoping that 
in that transformation, I could stop access to the hard drive
for the most part by loading system and some applications on a ram
disk.  the problem is that when word starts up, it accesses the hard
drive, even when it has been unmounted by draging the icon of the drive
to the trash. It isn't looking for a prefs file, because the active
system is on the ramdisk. And it isn't just microsoft, because the
same thing happend with BBEdit. Any Ideas, Suggestions, or Guesses would
be appriciated. 

important information...
sys 7.1
8 megs mem.
4 meg ramdisk
pb100

Thanks,  Eric Soroos

-- 
kwix@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: deweeset@ptolemy3.rdrc.rpi.edu (Thomas E. DeWeese)
Subject: Re: Mac OS on PC
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:47:47 GMT

>It seem that MS is guilty of the charge of not fully documenting Windows.  
>But I'm not sure that this should be considered non-competitive behavior.
>Although MS is powerful, they are not powerful enough that there are 
>substancial barriers to entry in either applications or operating systems
>software markets.
>Rob
>[  rmah@panix.com  |   every moment a challenge."  ]

  Well my understanding of the situation is that they have done all of the
above.  The basic idea of the FREE trade system is that the _consumer_ will
benifit from an open market.  
  This has stopped happening in the IBM software market.  There are two 
"rumors" I have heard which, if true (which really is for a court of law
to decide), mean that MS is no longer compeating in a free market enviorment.
the two things I have heard are:

1).  There were several parts to Windows 3 that were left out so that they
could later introduce upgrades (in a free market system they should have
to put out the best product they can in order to compete).

2).  All of MS's Windows apps are designed so that they will NOT run on any
other OS other than MS Windows.  This is a move that will strongly affect
sails of other OS's.  But in a free market they should be interested in
having there programs sell as widely as possible (this may be related to
confict of interests).  BTW what I mean by they will not run on any other OS
is not that they won't run under Mac OS,  but that systems that attempt to
simulate Windows will not be able to run MS applications.  A good example
is OS/2.  Virtually every non-MS application runs, but virtual no MS apps
run.

   Now I can't prove either one of these (if I could I would be in court
right now).  But if they do turn out to be true,  I believe that it is in
the general publics best interest to split up the company.  Much more so
than splitting up MaBell.
							Thomas DeWeese
deweeset@rdrc.rpi.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Distribution: world
From: Erik_Sherwood@cybermac.sadye.emba.uvm.edu
Organization: Adrenaline Online, (802) 425-2332, a FirstClass system
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 13:33:41 EST
Subject: Re: Auto Compression -What to buy?

A comparison of AutoDoubler and SpaceSaver was recently done by MacWEEK. The
testers found that AutoDoubler compressed slightly smaller than SpaceSaver and
at about the same speed. They said that the SpaceSaver manual was better, but
that the tech support was worse (not that either one was bad at all). Both
were given four star ratings (above average) and were reccomended. I happen to
own a copy of AutoDoubler and it works fine. The manual is scanty, but a lot of
instruction is not neededit works just like a screen saver. I think that you
will be happy with either onejust be sure to give it a few hours of
inactivity after it is installed so that it can compress all of the files.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: david_goldsmith@taligent.com (David Goldsmith)
Subject: Re: Sys 7.1 and mixed lang's
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Taligent, Inc.
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 06:08:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.202339.17849@oclc.org>, glf@oclc.org (Greg
Feldman-Hill) wrote:
> At any rate, from the little I've seen, the new system is supposed to
> be able to support multiple languages at the same time... like even in
> the same document.  Is this true?
> 
> I'd like to have an English system (use English for the menu items and
> dialog boxes, etc), but be able to select a Hebrew font in the middle
> of my MSWord document AND have it key in right-to-left.  Is this
> possible with the new system?  Is there more I'd have to buy, besides
> maybe some PostScript or TT Hebrew fonts?

Yes and no.

To do what you say, you need the following:
1. System 7.1 (any country, including US)
2. WorldScript I extension (not yet available from Apple)
3. Hebrew Script System and fonts (not yet available from Apple)
4. A Script Manager compatible word processor, which MS-Word is NOT.

(By the way, replace items 2 and/or 3 with WorldScript II and other script
systems, and the same requirements apply for any Apple-supported script,
and you can have multiple installed at once, including both WorldScript I
and II)

My guess is that everything on the list will be available soon, except that
I don't think MS Word will be Script Manager compatible for a long, long
time, if ever. Most of the popular word processors are not, currently.

I've heard things to the effect that WordPerfect 2.1.2 and the latest
version of the Nisus support the script manager, but I don't know for sure.

David Goldsmith
Taligent, Inc.
10725 N. DeAnza Blvd. MS: PD/3
Cupertino, CA  95014-2000
david_goldsmith@taligent.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps
From: L.H.Wood@lut.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Regular crashing in ROM _Jackson, why?
Reply-To: L.H.Wood@lut.ac.uk (Lloyd Wood)
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 15:22:35 GMT

I always get an error 25 _Jackson when Autodoubler 1.0.7i kicks in for the
second check while After Dark 2.0w is running. And increasing the Finder
memory doesn't fix it - I think these two utilities might be squabbling
over something.

Ideas, anyone? IIsi 17/80, 32-bit mode, S7.0.1*1.1.1, more INITs than you
would believe.....

L.H.Wood@uk.ac.lut

From: John.Hillman@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org (John Hillman)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: 7.1 AND ZMODEM -- HELP!!
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 12:10:00 -0500

I have had a problem like you described.  I saw it with 7.0. and 7.0.1 
also.  I corrected it by turning file sharing off when doing large Z-Modem 
transfers.  Using Xon-Xoff and not hardware handshaking allowed the 
transfers to complete, even with nasty amounts of errors.  

It seemed that during file transfers at almost any baud rate (up to 38.4) 
I would get disconnected at different points in the transfer.  Another 
thing that seemd to cause things to stop was the size and number of 
windows open.  Apparantly the window manager uses a lot of system time 
occationally.

Hardware Mac IIfx, 32 meg, Mac IIx with 33mhz acc, the most trouble was 
with a straight Mac IIx.  Internal speed has an effect, especially at 
higher baud rates.  



 This copy of Freddie 1.2 is being evaluated.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: thf28310@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd)
Subject: HELP!!! IIsi hangs after boot!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 07:18:10 GMT



I have a Mac IIsi and I recently encountered a problem during start-up.
I turn my mac's power on and after the "Welcome to Macintosh" screen
appears, the system hangs for about 10 minutes.  (Occasionally, the Hard
Drive makes noise.)  Then, after the 10 minutes, the Finder loads normally.
Everything is then fine, just as if nothing was wrong.  I've checked for
viruses and anomolies, but have found none.  I've reinitalized my hard
drive and reinstalled the system and the problem still persists.  I don't
have ANY inits loded.
 
Please help!!!  I'm desperate!  If you have any ideas as to what the problem
might be please send me some mail.  Thank you in advance.
 
-Todd Faulstich
thf28310@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
 
PS:	I've booted from a floppy and the same thing happens.
From: ibhan@husc10.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Mac OS on PC
Date: 23 Dec 92 04:34:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc.ibhan.725085259
 <BzMIu1.H4F@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <1992Dec22.030801.21693@panix.com> <cjs2z6m@rpi.edu> <1992Dec22.183638.27492@panix.com>

rmah@panix.com (Robert Mah) writes:

>Big deal.  Until FileMaker Pro, no Claris apps could run on any system 
>other than the Mac.  

Yeah, but there are no competeing OS's on the Mac.  What he was talking
about was that MS deliberately "crippled" their software so it would only
run on Windows, and not on OS/2.

-- 
               -  Ishir Bhan -  ibhan@husc.harvard.edu  - 
                                     - - - 
           "The sky and the impossible explode..." -The Cure
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: monitn@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Nicholas Monitto)
Subject: Re: Memory settings
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:55:05 GMT

hampel@siemens.com. (Ken Hampel) writes:

>I'm sure this has been discussed before, but what (if any) advantages
>are there in running your Mac in 32bit mode. I have a IIsi and don't
>notice any speed differences between 24bit and 32bit mode so I usually
>just keep it in 24bit mode. Are there factors other than speed that would
>influence one's decision to be in 32bit mode?

>Also, for a IIsi, what is the optimum disk cache size?

>Thanks,
>Ken

As far as I know, you MUST run 32-bit to address more than 8MB of physical
RAM (and depending on your machine you may need MODE-32 or something like
that). Other than that, there is no difference between 24 and 32bit modes
(except that you may crash some software... :) )

Nick
monitn@rpi.edu
From: jackr@wpd.sgi.com (John "Jack" Repenning)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Startup Sounds and Screens _together_??
Date: 1 Jan 93 20:54:24
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: dblues.wpd.sgi.com

How can I get a startup screen to display and a startup sound to 
play _together_?  Perhaps I have something or other 
misconfigured?

I display my startup screens by making a StartupScreen file in 
the System folder, which the system then displays automatically 
(right after the Happy Mac).  I play my startup sounds by 
putting a System 7 sound file into the Startup Items folder, and 
the system plays it after the StartupScreen has been replaced by 
the desktop.  I do both these using Jon Pughs Randomizer, 
version 1.2, to select a random new one each time I start up; 
Randomizer is in the System folder itself, so it runs last of all 
the extensions.  So, the sequence is:  Happy Mac, StartupScreen 
displays; INITs and extensions run, culminating with Randomizer; 
desktop background and folders appear, StartupSound plays.

I would like my startup sound to play earlier, before the 
StartupScreen goes away and before Randomizer runs, so that the 
screen displayed and the sound played were selected during the 
same run of Randomizer.



Jack Repenning			1-875	     jackr@wpd.sgi.com
Silicon Graphics, Inc.		            Off:(415) 390-3027
Visual Magic Division			    Fax:(415) 390-6056
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: triantos@netcom.Netcom.COM (Nick B Triantos)
Subject: Re: Desktop Patterns in Black and White Only
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Service
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 17:10:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.174721.3543@netcom.com> jared@netcom.com (Jared Slosberg) writes:

   When I go to the General Control Panel, all I get are black and white
   desktop patterns to choose from, even though I have a color monitor and
   everything else is in color.  How do I get color patterns.

Do you have a special background pattern now?  Something from a program like
WallPaper, Desktop Textures, or Before Dark?  If so, you need to de-install
those, and then you'll get your color patterns from the General Control
Panel.  In Desktop Textures, you can choose the "Control Panel Compatible"
pattern (plain grey).  There should be an equivalent in the others.

Also, did you do a "Minimal installation for <your machine>" when installing
the OS?  If so, it's possible that the color pattern resources didn't
install, although I would think that the first solution is more likely.

Good luck!