HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: parrikar@csn.org (Rajan Parrikar)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Pt. Datar's Violin Concert tour
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:05:34 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <1992Sep14.195718.17656@nynexst.com> naik@nynexst.com (Jay Naik) writes:
>
>	 I wonder if we can request Pt. Datar who is currently on a concert tour
>in the US to talk about Pt. D.V. Paluskar, whom he accompanied in the early
>50's?  If any of us succeeds, a summary of Pt. Datar's reminiscences would 
>make for delightful reading.  
>	  

I am reproducing the relevant portion of the Great Masters piece on  
D.V. Paluskar that has mention of D.K. Datar. 

Rajan Parrikar
==============
email: parrikar@mimicad.colorado.edu

<deleted>
>
>Cheers,
>-----------------------  
> Jayant Naik
>
>

********************************************************************
From: Down Melody Lane by G. Joshi

...In 1952 Bapurao introduced me to a fair and handsome teenage boy who
was his close relative and who played well on the violin. Bapurao
requested me to take him on our music staff. Fortunately we needed a 
hand just then, so I got him the job. In our studio, recordings were
made in different languages and styles. Ghazals and qawalis in Urdu,
bhavgeets in Marathi, garba and ras in Gujarati, and Hindustani classical
music - all these were often recorded in our studios. It was therefore
the job of this youngster to provide accompaniment to all these types of
music. This helped him extend his knowledge and constant practice brought
polish to his play. I suggested to him that he should also learn and 
practise writing music. Within a short period he assiduosly mastered
this too. It helped him very much later in life. Soon after he was 
offered a better job in the Films Division and I readily relieved him.
The new job had better prospects - both financial and artistic. This
young boy is now a man - the famous violinist D.K. Datar, popular all
over India for his chaste and entertaining violin recitals.....
*********************************************************************
From: jw3u+@andrew.cmu.edu (James J. White)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Violin concert in Pittsburgh
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:52:04 GMT
Organization: Hunt Institute for Botanical Documentatn, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

---------- Forwarded message begins here ----------

X-Added: With Flames (bb $Revision: 1.29 $)
Return-path: <Atul.Sudhalkar@ITAIPU.EDRC.CMU.EDU>
X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail
Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for
bb+assocs.india-news@andrew.cmu.edu
          ID </afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/bb/Mailbox/IedCrMq00UkT4c4E5u>;
          Wed,  2 Sep 1992 12:37:45 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from ITAIPU.EDRC.CMU.EDU by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id
<AA10248> for bb+assocs.india-news; Wed, 2 Sep 92 12:37:33 EDT
Received: from
Messages.7.8.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.ITAIPU.EDRC.CMU.EDU.pmax.3
          via MS.5.6.ITAIPU.EDRC.CMU.EDU.pmax_3;
          Wed,  2 Sep 92 12:37:09 -0400 (EDT)
Message-Id: <gedCqpO00hMzIe=kUB@cs.cmu.edu>
Date: Wed,  2 Sep 92 12:37:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Atul.Sudhalkar@cs.cmu.edu
To: Bulletin Board Administration <bb+assocs.india-news@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Classical music concert 17 Sept.

Concert Announcement
--------------------------

Pandit D.K. Datar (violin)
with
Vijay Ghate (tabla)

Thursday, Sept 17, 1992, 7:30pm
Frick Fine Arts Auditorium
University of Pittsburgh,
Pittsburgh, PA 15213.

For more information call
(412) 963-8023 or (412) 648-8582
(412) 624-4125 or (412) 648-7370

Ticket prices: regular $8.00, full time students $4.00

To order tickets by mail: write to Dr. B.N. Dixit, 608 Ravencrest
Road, Pittsburgh, PA 15215, giving your name, phone number, address,
and number of tickets in each category.  Please include the exact
payment due, by check or money order, PAYABLE TO "University of
Pittsburgh".
From: jsg9939@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (J. Sreedhar )
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Re: Looking for Tabla music
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:45:43 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


  I have read a lot about the Ali Akbar Khan School of Music here 
  and elsewhere. Can anyone send me the exact address of the school?
  Do they send info. about the courses they offer, books and instructional
  materials etc? Does anybody know how much it costs to take one of 
  these short courses? I am desperate to improve my tabla playing 
  and I can't find anyone who can teach or give me tips.

  Any info will be deeply appreciated.

  Please send mail to satya@uicsltg.csl.uiuc.edu or post it on the 
  net.

  -Satya
  P.S. I am using a friend's account.                                  
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: divaka@vccsouth06.its.rpi.edu (Ajay Divakaran)
Subject: Re: Very informative book on Indian Classical Music
Reply-To: divaka@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:34:15 GMT





The News reader appears to have chewed up part of my earlier posting.
I read the Grove Encyclopaedia on the recommendation of a netter on
SCI long ago. Many thanks to him. I wish I could recall his name.
        Just wanted to give credit where it is due.
                                                        ajay
From: tmcfarla@fraser.sfu.ca (Tara McFarlane)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Re: Looking for Tabla music
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:05:54 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

there is a label called 'moment!' (i believe) which is devoted to indian        classical music. they have a great table release out. ustad ali rahka and zakir hussain in a tabla duet (tintal i believe).
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Tabla training
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 15:52:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.115405.3870@alf.uib.no>, s312@brems.ii.uib.no (Permjit Bhamra) writes:
|> Hi Netters,
|> 
|> I love playing tabla, but unfortunately there aren't any around to teach 
|> me. Are there any tabla "wizards" out there who could give me some good
|> hints on how to train my fingers, so that they can "fly" over the table,
|> like i.g Zakhir Hussain's do. (I am not saying that I will be as good as
|> him, but I need to start somewhere !!??!!) 
|> 
|> THANX, in advance
|> 
|> 
|> __________________________________________________________________________
|>                 Permjit Bhamra, Dept. of Computer Science 
|>                       University of Bergen, NORWAY
|>                          E-Mail  s312@ii.uib.no         
|> __________________________________________________________________________

It is difficult to give lessons without seeing your fingering etc..
Do you have any formal training ? If so practice what you know, espeically
any excercises given to develop speed in certain phrases (such as 
thira-kita). If you don't have formal training - don't play ! You
will develop bad fingering that will take your teacher a long time to
undo. I would suggest you try to locate a teacher nearby. If not, when
you go to India for a visit, try to learn as intensively as possible
(eg. a lesson every day) so that you learn enough material to practice with.
From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan )
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Info on Mndolin Srinivas.
Date: 13 Sep 92 04:14:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.20300
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Recently, I heard from one of my friends who visited India that
the Mandolin Maestro, Srinivas is suffering from cancer.

Can anybody confirm this or is it just a rumor. Hope that it
turns out to be fiction.

Sivaram
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: books
From: rgopi@calypso.eng.uci.edu (Ramesh K. Gopi)
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:40:09 GMT
Reply-To: rgopi@calypso.eng.uci.edu (Ramesh K. Gopi)
Organization: University of California, Irvine

  I as wondering if anyone had any idea of where to find books containing the compostions of Mutthuswamy Dikshithar and Papanasam Sivan, if possible with translations and/or translitterations.  If anyone has these books I would appreciate a listing of the people who authored these books as well as the titles and the publishers.  If the books were bought in India, I would like to know in what city and if possible, in what particular bookstore in that city.  

Thank You,
Ramesh

Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: ds@tejas.watson.ibm.com (Dinkar Sitaram)
Subject: Re: Very informative book on Indian Classical Music
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 20:26:48 GMT
Reply-To: ds@tejas.watson.ibm.com (Dinkar Sitaram)
Organization: IBM TJ Watson Research

In article <5_6yhqd@rpi.edu>, divaka@vccsouth29.its.rpi.edu (Ajay
Divakaran) writes:
|>                                                                         It
|> is correctly pointed out that Hindustani and Carnatic music are listened to
|> by a tiny elite minority.
This is true if you define "listening to music" as "going to concerts". 
However, at
least in the South, Carnatic music is everywhere.  For example, weddings
always have
Carnatic music; so do most religious functions.  Without denying the
importance of
the music that people listen to for entertainment, I would say that
Carnatic music
is woven into the fabric of life in the South, just like RabindraSangeet
in Bengal.

|>                                Even modern day ghazals are described as 
|> (What follows is not an exact quote)
|> "crooning to the background of violins in which the beginnings of harmony
|> can be heard" !!!!! I found the deadpan anthropological description of the
|> music funny at times.
Since you recommend the book so highly, do you think that is an accurate
description
of ghazals?  I am not a fan of ghazals, but, even so, I find this description
somewhat supercilious.  Also, do you think a "deadpan anthropological
description"
of Indian music belongs anywhere else other than a bedpan?

Dinkar Sitaram
From: jw3u+@andrew.cmu.edu (James J. White)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Journal Indian Musicological Soc
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:33:05 GMT
Organization: Hunt Institute for Botanical Documentatn, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Here's the contents of the last two issues of the Journal of The Indian
Musicological Society, Bombay and Baroda:

Volume 21  No. 1 and 2, June & Dec 1990:
Prem Lata Sharma, The treatment of musical composition in the Indian
textural tradition
G. H. Tariekar, A note on Giti, Gana and Prabandh compositional styles
of ancient music
Bimal Mukherjee, The place of "compositions or 'Bandish'" in raga music
S. S. Haldankar, Bandish in Khayal:  Basic concept and its application
C. S. Naringrekar, Concept of Bandish in different musical traditions
Dipali Nag, Reflections and recollection on the compositions of Ustad
Fayaaz Khan
Rohini Bhate-Jathar, The concept of creative compositions (Bandish) with
reference to Kathak
Arvind Parikh, Bandish on instruments
Sakuntala Narasimhan, Text and texture in compositions of Hindustani and
Carnatic music:  A comparative note
T. S. Parthasarthy, Compositional diversities:  Patterns in Karnatik music
R. Sathyanarayana, New creations in Karnataka music
S. A. K. Durga, Characteristics of the Bandish, "The Tillana" of Karnatak music
Aban E. Mistry, Divergence and intricacies in the compositional
techniques of the different Baai/Gharane in Tabala Vadan

Vol. 22  Jan - Dec 1991
Bimal Mukherjee, The Rajasthan Bikaner Gharana of Jaipur
B. M. Sundaram, Evolution of Mrudangam
Gordon Epperson, Value discrimination in musical aesthetics
R. Sathyanarayana, A scheme of systematic classification of the singing
voice in Indian music
K. D. Goswami, Classical music in Assam:  A retrospect
Gowri Kuppuswami & M. Hariharan, Inscriptions on music in Tamilnadu
From: sivaras@mist.CS.ORST.EDU (Sivaramapuram Subramanyam Kris)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Re: Carnatic music on Guitar
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:01:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Sep04.220118.2806
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.

>Sukumar Prasad plays Carnatic music on the guitar with surprising skill
>and dexterity. It is my understanding that he uses a Spanish guitar and
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>is one of the pioneers in the use of the guitar in Carnatic music. I
>have had the pleasure of listening to him in person, and I believe he
>handles the gamakhas comfortably. I do not know if he made adjustments
>
>                         Krishnan

	I think he plays it like a gottuvAdhyam (with a wooden piece
to select the swaras) which helps him in getting the melodious gamakAs.
In that sense, I guess this guitar is close to a hawaian guitar. Even 
though I don't know much about the hawaian guitar, I think a wooden
piece is used in that guitar too.

Krishna


-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
S S Krishna 

Deptt of Computer Science
From: s312@brems.ii.uib.no (Permjit Bhamra)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Tabla training
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:54:05 GMT
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway

Hi Netters,

I love playing tabla, but unfortunately there aren't any around to teach 
me. Are there any tabla "wizards" out there who could give me some good
hints on how to train my fingers, so that they can "fly" over the table,
like i.g Zakhir Hussain's do. (I am not saying that I will be as good as
him, but I need to start somewhere !!??!!) 

THANX, in advance


__________________________________________________________________________
                Permjit Bhamra, Dept. of Computer Science 
                      University of Bergen, NORWAY
                         E-Mail  s312@ii.uib.no         
__________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Looking for Tabla music
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 16:31:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.174239.27151@colorado.edu>, parrikar@csn.org (Rajan Parrikar) writes:
|>  <stuff deleted>
|>
|> Be that as it may, I am not an enthusiastic proponent of the
|> "Learn Sitar in 3 Months" type courses advertised in some Indian
|> newspapers here. Music appreciation workshops and such like,
|> however, can lead to, as you've indicated, fun and profit.
|> 
|> Rajan Parrikar
|> ==============
|> email: parrikar@mimicad.colorado.edu
|> 


The AACM is not suggesting that a student can learn tabla
or sitar etc. in 3 months. The idea is the student goes there and learns
something, and gets enough material that he/she can work on and practice
for a year, until the next workshop. Only by attending (and later practicing
the material learnt) for many years can the student begin to learn an
instrument. These are things you continue to learn for you lifetime !

I notice that while you are critical of suggestions made, you have not
yet enlightened us with your masterful thoughts on how to solve this 
person's problem (let me remind you what the original question was):
someone who is living in an area where there is no local tabla (or
sitar etc) teacher. They want to learn tabla as a HOBBY. They have a
full-time occupation, a mortgage to pay, etc.. How can they learn ?

This person was in Utah so I suggested the AACM since geographically
it is nearby. (I should also point out I suggested they find a local
teacher if possible). Had they been in Canada, I might have suggested
contacting Bob Becker, who every year brings Pandit Sharda Sahai
from Benares to Toronto to teach tabla for 6 weeks. Someone in Scandinavia
laos asked and I siggested they try learning everytime they went back
to India. The person in Utah was a non-Indian so I didn't figure he'd
be going back for visits like most Indians do.

Anyway Rajan, I'd like to hear your suggestions !
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: kippenj@epas.utoronto.ca (J. Kippen)
Subject: The son of Ustad Amir Khan
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 04:40:15 GMT
Followup-To: kippenj@epas.utoronto.ca
Summary: Help in gathering information about Ustad Amir Khan's son.

On a couple of previous occasions I asked readers of this bulletin for
information on the son of Ustad Amir Khan.  Owing to a lax summer
schedule I have not checked in very frequently, and even then others
at the University of Toronto have read and deleted postings before I
get to them.  Perhaps there was a reply which I never read, but if
not, let me once again ask for assistance.

Amir Khan used to visit his son when the latter was a student at McGill
University in Montreal.  The son, one Ikram Khan, we think may still
be there in some professorial capacity perhaps.  Does anyone know him?
Is he contactable?  Is there anyone in McGill or in Montreal who could
help find out?

I'd also like to hear from anyone who knows anything about Rosette
Renshaw, with whom Amir Khan used to stay in New Paltz, NY.  Renshaw
denied this in a letter to me once, though that doesn't make much
sense in view of what others in India and elsewhere have told me.
Renshaw was researching (?) in India about the same time Danielou was,
I'm told.

Amir Khan lovers should in particular take some interest in this
question.  Please reply to me, or at least send a copy of the posting
to me also, at

kippenj@epas.utoronto.ca

If I learn anything very interesting I will certainly attempt to share
it with the bulletin's readership.

Jim Kippen
From: nxc4@po.CWRU.Edu (Noel Cyrill)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Hindi
Date: 10 Sep 1992 00:04:23 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: nxc4@po.CWRU.Edu (Noel Cyrill)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


I would like to know how I can get some songs that are old songs from certain
movies.  Also, I would like to know, which movie this song is from,
     Kabie, na-kabie, kahie, na-kahie, kohie, na-kohie, tho iaa ga.
Sorry for my poor spelling.  I am not really fluent in writing hindi, but I
have a small collection of hindi songs, as well as movies (mostly old), and
therefore I would like to add this movie to my collection.  There is another
song, to which the movie I do not know.
    Sagenna, sat-nebhayia; sagenna, sat-nebhayia; sathie merie......
I will appreciate it if anyone who knows the names of the movies these songs
are in will write to me and tell me. 
                     P.S.  My e-mail address is nxc4@po.cwru.edu .
                         			Thanks again,
 						Noel
           
-- 
NOEL A. CYRILL             CASE WESTERN RESERVE UNIVERSITY
11435 JUNIPER ROAD         DEPARTMENT OF UNDERGRADUATE / HISTORY
CLEVELAND, OH  44106.      (216) 754-2222
1
From: wernercg@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Craig Werner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Request for Sruti's Telephone Number
Date: 7 Sep 92 16:01:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hello, everyone.

Could someone please e-mail me the telephone number of Sruti's
record store in California?  I have tried Directory Assistance
numbers in several cities, all to no avail.

Thank you for your help.

Craig Werner <wernercg@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu, wernercg@ubvms.bitnet>
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: sguha@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Saumyen Guha)
Subject: Re: Looking for Tabla music
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:45:04 GMT

In article <tmcfarla.716079954@sfu.ca> tmcfarla@fraser.sfu.ca (Tara McFarlane) writes:
>there is a label called 'moment!' (i believe) which is devoted to indian        classical music. they have a great table release out. ustad ali rahka and zakir hussain in a tabla duet (tintal i believe).

There is an old but very good one by Mahapurush Mishra. Lahara by Ud.
Ali Akbar Khan. This one is on vinyl, one of many brilliand release
by Connoisseur Soc.

later,
-Saumyen
From: singer@apple.com (Dave Singer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
Subject: Re: Wedding music suggestions?
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:52:03 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer

In article <1992Sep1.154530.9886@tc.fluke.COM>, strong@tc.fluke.COM (Norm Strong) writes:
> 
> I attended a wedding a week ago in which the bride sang "All I ask of
> you (is to love me)", from Webber's Phantom.  It was quite effective.
> It would have been even more effective if the groom was a singer as
> well.  
> 
> -- 
> 

I have wondered whether the little anthem "Set me as a seal upon thy heart"
(which as I recall is dedicated to a lady and gentleman) by Walton,
was intended for such use, having a small baritone and soprano solo
in it.

Does anyone know?
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
From: gjm11@cus.cam.ac.uk (G.J. McCaughan)
Subject: Re: Here Comes the Bride NOT
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 01:40:34 GMT

In article <5373@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, genetic+@pitt.edu (Dr. Dave) writes:

> These are all quite heroic in tone, not to say "pompous".  If you're looking
> for something a bit more laid back, you might consider something like the Air
> (in F) from Haendel's Water Music.  This would make a nice pair with the bit
> from the Fireworks music that Mike suggested as a recessional, or you could
> pair it with the movement of the Water music whose name always escapes me, 
> but which begins (transposed) "C - F - G - A F - G A F G c - ..." (where
> lower case denotes higher octave).

It's the "Bourree", with an acute accent on the first "e".
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
From: Fabrizio Sebastiani <fabrizio@iei.pi.cnr.it>
Subject: Re: Shostakovic's Preludes and Fugues recording: comments?
Organization: Italian National Council of Research
X-Xxdate: Tue, 8 Sep 92 14:01:48 GMT
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6D262CC00010363@mac-sebastiani.iei.pi.cnr.it>
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 11:57:43 GMT
X-Posted-From: mac-sebastiani.iei.pi.cnr.it
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Sep8.123856.454@cine88.cineca.it> Marco Simionato,
simion@iveuncc.unive.it writes:
>I would appreciate any comments on the recent release on K.Jarret's
>recording of this piano work.

It would be interesting if follow-up articles on this topic could be
cross-posted on rec.music.bluenote.  Keith Jarrett is currently an active
topic of discussion there.

Fabrizio

----------------------------------
Fabrizio Sebastiani                             Phone : +39.(0)50.593407
Istituto di Elaborazione dell'Informazione        Fax : +39.(0)50.554342
Consiglio Nazionale delle Ricerche               Telex : 590305 IEICNR I
Via S. Maria, 46 - 56126 Pisa (ITALY)    E-mail : fabrizio@iei.pi.cnr.it
----------------------------------
From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
Subject: Switcheroos
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:01:05 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

Chris Brewster writes:
> Rob Holzel recounts a Bruckner -> Schubert/Dvorak switcheroo.  How about
> this one.  We had bought (expensive for Minnesota) tickets for Mahler 3.
> Our best friends had come 300 miles to attend this with us, he being a
> Total Mahler Person.  About one minute before the music started, we
> realized they had changed the program, and thereby narrowly missed
> hearing Bernstein's Candide overture.  Think about Candide's opening
> notes and imagine hearing that when you're expecting Mahler.

I once mail-ordered an LP of Schoenberg's Wind Quintet from the UK to New
Zealand.  Took three months to arrive.  Opened the packaging and stuck it
straight on the record player without looking more closely at the label
than required to see "Side 1".  What I got was the Bee Gees; the wrong disc
had been put in the sleeve at the factory.

I bet some Bee Gees fan got even more of a shock, though.

-- 
--  Jack Campin    room G092, Computing Science Department, Glasgow University,
17 Lilybank Gardens, Glasgow G12 8RZ, Scotland   TEL: 041 339 8855 x6854 (work)
INTERNET: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk or via nsfnet-relay.ac.uk    FAX: 041 330 4913
BANG!net: via mcsun and uknet     BITNET: via UKACRL    UUCP: jack@glasgow.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical