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From: dal3@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (dale.e.parson)
Subject: Re: Homeschooling:  The Practical Aspects
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:26:07 GMT

In article <19920825164607SEB1525@MVS.draper.com> SEB1525@MVS.draper.com (Steve Bacher) writes:
>
>An interesting discussion (leave us not call it a "flamefest") has been
>going on in misc.kids about homeschooling.  Now, getting past the
>question of whether homeschooling is a Good Thing, I would like to
>get some Real, Practical Information about it, which is why I have
>posted to both misc.kids and misc.education, but with slightly
>different contents.

Makes me glad I unsubscribed to misc.kids a while back after tiring of
weeding through the flame wars. Freud would have a field day with that group.

>
>Once you've decided to go for homeschooling, how do you manage the
>legal and sociopolitical aspects of it?  Most municipal school systems
>and town halls are none too encouraging, not to say downright hostile,
>when it comes to teaching your kid(s) at home.

In the U.S. contact your state dept. of education & get the facts in writing.
In Pennsylvania this was no problem. The person at the Dept. of Education
dispenses this info. for a living; we had no problem there. 

>
>How can you make sure that your kid gets the education she needs
>by the time she enters high school?  Parents aren't professional
>educators, and they will need some kind of guidance or program to
>know they're not letting whole areas of study go by the boards.

We pay attention to the world around us, our kids' interests, we
assess our resources & buy/borrow what we don't have, including
expertise by way of apprenticeships and mentoring. We network.

>
>What about equivalency diplomas, standardized tests, etc.?
>

Varies from state to state. It looks like Pa. will let the Pa. homeschooler
org. do some bookkeeping & award a diploma, but if we do our own
bookkeeping they can get a GED, we supply the transcripts & portfolio
if appropriate. Our kids must take 3 standardized tests between ages
8 & 18.

>What do you tell your friends, neighbors, local cop on the beat,
>colleages, and (most of all) other kids about where Junior is
>doing her study?

At home & elesewhere in the world.

>
>Any information about the John Holt center here in Cambridge or
>Arlington, MA, would be most welcome.  (I lost the address.)
>
>These are serious questions for anyone who plans to embark upon this.
>I really need to know the answers.
>
>--
>Steve Bacher (Batchman)                 Draper Laboratory
>Internet: seb@draper.com                Cambridge, MA, USA


Newsgroups: misc.education
From: esrne@warwick.ac.uk (Mr P I Neaves)
Subject: Educational "Pack" for Schools
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:25:19 GMT

Hello girls and boys.

I seem to remember when I was at school (approx. 11 yrs old) that
one of the teachers sent away for an educational pack about the space
program, solar system etc from (I think) NASA.

A few questions.

1. Do they still do this ?

2. Will it cost money ?

3. Does anyone have an address (email or snail mail).

Replys by email please, to:

esrne@clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk


Thanks

Phil
Newsgroups: misc.education
From: cfinley@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (Charles W. Finley)
Subject: Geologist Seeking Teaching Positon
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Richmond)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 18:50:51 GMT


A former classmate of mine recently contacted me regarding a
teaching position in Virginia.  He is a native of Lynchburg and
wants to retrn to the area.

He is currently pursuing a Doctorate in Geology at Penn State.  He
also holds an M.S from the University of Massachusetts and a
B.S. from Virginia State University.

While he does not meet professional teacher certification
requirements, he is more than willing to take whatever action
will be required to do so.

He has about 20 years of experience working in the petroleum
industry with companies such as Exxon and Meridian Oil of
Houston Texas.

If you know of anything that might be available in earth or
physical sciences, please contact him directly:

		John T. Leftwich, Jr.
		321 Toftrees Avenue, #331
		State College, PA 16802
		(814) 867-1445

If you would prefer to contact me, please do so via e-mail at
cfinley@vdoe3866.vak12ed.edu or by phone at (804) 2-2747.

Any and all assistance will be appreciated!
Newsgroups: misc.education,misc.jobs.misc
From: Nigel Dolan <ndolan@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>
Subject: Computer programs for student grading/testing
Organization: University of Western Australia
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 04:31:18 GMT

Computer programs for student Grading/Testing

I am researching grading programs (and testing programs) for classroom
use. The aim is to get together criteria for assessing the usefulness and
quality of these things. Early work suggests there are lots of these
around though they are often locally produced, and there are few reviews
of them. The results of this are likely to be very useful to users and
producers. Does anyone out there have any experience with them and can
you suggest important criteria, good and bad examples, or any contacts
for reviews or related literature? Results will be available to
contributors. Mail me or post.
From: ro@panix.com (r l reid)
Newsgroups: misc.education
Subject: Alternative Schools
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:43:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Playdoh's Republic


I'm very happy to see a fairly reasonable discussion on homeschooling
taking place in this group (never occured to me to look for it under
"education", frankly... :-)

My spouse and I were active in alternative schools in our teens (late 60's
early 70's).  We somehow expected that the movement would have grown
(after all we saw the homeschooling movement, with all its strange bedfellows
grow), but that doesn't seem to be the case.

When we were looking for a school for our child, we ended up "settling"
for the local Friends' school.  I say "settling" in quotes because
I don't mean to put it down - compared to most public or private
schools it is a utopia and I believe the child realizes this.

However, it's up to $11000. per year for my third grader, and we just
can't take it any more.  If I had my druthers, I'd also prefer a place
that wasn't trying so hard to beef up its "accademic excellence"
as this place is - it is a good and nurturing place but at the
same time they are frankly a prep school - a nice one, but a prep
school.

Besides the Brooklyn New School, which we will never get into because it
is the only "alternative" type elementary school in Brooklyn
and there are HUNDREDS of people who want to get in (you'd think
they would therefore create more of these programs but this is the NYC
Board of Ed we're talking about here - delivery of services isn't 
even on the agenda for them), we have not be able to find either
"free" (public) or more reasonably priced alternative schools 
in the NYC metro area.

This does not mean they don't exist - but we haven't been able to 
find the network of people who know about these things if indeed the schools
or people do exist.

I'm begging for information on alternative and even progressive schools
in the NYC metro area.  I'm quite willing to move within the metro area
to get access to it (elderly parents to care for make it difficult
to leave the area...gosh...gotta remember to take some time to take
care of ourselves, too, don't we...) 

If you don't know of things in this area, but know of things in 
other areas, I'd appreciate hearing from you also, since who you
know of may know of someone out by us, and so forth.

Thanks
-- 
		r l reid	ro@panix.com
Newsgroups: misc.education
From: bthursto@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (Beverly Thurston)
Subject: University students ask abt democracy
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Richmond)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 12:22:10 GMT

Hi, I am teaching a class for college freshmen to introduce them to
American Government.  They have asked three questions about
democracy and would like responses from teachers and students.
The questions are:
1)  Is democracy the best political system?  Why or why not?
2)  What are the downfalls and perils of democracy?
3) [this question is for foreign countries] How does your
government promote democracy, what freedoms do you have, what
freedoms are most important to you and what steps are you
taking towards democratization?

Please address responses to bthursto@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu
Thanks!
From: carlip@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Walter C3arlip)
Newsgroups: misc.education
Subject: Teach for America
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:46:39 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Ohio University Mathematics

I am seeking information about the organization 'Teach for America'
and/or any other organizations that enable young potential teachers
to volunteer to teach.

I'm also interested in the general opinion of the NET on advice to
give a student.  I have a student who recently graduated with a BA
in Mathematics, who is very interested in teaching.  He is enthusiastic
and committed, but has not taken the education courses required for 
a teaching certificate.  (Lamentably, a teaching certificate is required
for most teaching here, isn't it?)  He'd (quite reasonably) like to get some
practical experience teaching before deciding whether to pursue additional
teaching credentials.  He is applying to the Peace Corps and I thought
that Teach for America might be another organization to investigate.
Any other suggestions?

Thanks,

--Walter
_____________________________________________________________________________
Walter Carlip				    **** carlip@ace.cs.ohiou.edu ****
(the "3" is invisible)			
_____________________________________________________________________________



-- 
_____________________________________________________________________________
Walter Carlip				    **** carlip@ace.cs.ohiou.edu ****
(the "3" is invisible)			
_____________________________________________________________________________
From: LDD1_MAIL@ECC.TASED.EDU.AU
Newsgroups: misc.education
Subject: Keyboarding?
Date: 24 Aug 92 02:23:00 GMT

Hello,

The letter that follows was listed on 2 or 3 listservers recently and one of the
helpful repondants (Phil Calvert - thanks Phil) suggested that I post the letter
with  Usenet newsgroup bulletin board (if that's what they are called!). Here I
am, posting the said letter, and hopeful that many of you may share your
experiences with us here in Tasmania, Australia.

By the way, I don't have direct access to the newsgroup so could replies be
sent to my e-mail address:

LDD1_Mail@ecc.tased.edu.au

Here's the original letter:


Lauderdale Primary School
3 Acton Road
Lauderdale
Tasmania   7021
Australia

Hi,

We are a primary school of around 700 children.

We are wrestling with a problem that perhaps has confronted many schools,
and we would like some help. Our problem is our attempt to address the
question of "keyboarding skills" (whatever they may be). We have a
computer in each of our classrooms, but no computer lab (nor a spare
classroom to set one up).

We have relied, in the past, on children just acquiring these skills through
constant usage. But this does not appear to be effective, nor efficient. The
demands currently on reasonable speed and accuracy by the later primary
years (9-12 years old) are such that our children need to be more fluent.
Involvement in telecommunications places more stress on our response
ability.

Many of our teachers are asking what can be done? We are seeking help and
ideas from those who have attempted to solve the same problem  ( if you
have had this problem!) in your own school environment.

Have you had this problem?
What have you found to work in your school?
How have you attempted to develop a whole school plan to tackle this
problem?
Has one strategy been more successful than another?
What do the typing communities within you school think about this?

We would love to hear from you and your terrific ideas.

It might be that I could collate the responses and list them together later.

Once again, thanks for your help,

Bernard Hoggett

LDD1_Mail@ecc.tased.edu.au

Newsgroups: misc.education
From: jonr@bigsky.dillon.mt.us (Jon Robinson)
Subject: Re: daily report card info
Organization: Big Sky Telegraph
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 17:58:45 GMT
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Newsgroups: misc.education,k12.chat.teacher,soc.culture.usa,talk.politics.misc
From: white_ca@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: misc.education
Subject: Help Wanted please!
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:51:44 GMT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC


Can anyone give me a listing of the teaching positions open in
the state of Florida.  Also, I need any available info on the 
Teaching Out of Field program in Florida. Also, I need any 
information on the Teaching incentive grants and loans program
in North Carolina.
**************************************************************
*Charles White        *  Evidence that TX men grow weary!!!!!*
*1220 8th Ave. Dr. Ne.* If life is but a dream, then dreamers*
*Hickory, N.C.        * are those who see a vision of a      *
*28601                * reality soon to come.                *
**************************************************************
From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
Newsgroups: misc.education
Subject: Re: Teacher Preparation Programs
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:48:36 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department

In article <9208261820.AA15534@bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rweibl@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Richard A Weibl) writes:

			..................

>I am collecting information about state and/or national groups which are 
>undertaking efforts to reform the nature of teacher preparation programs.
>Specific content areas as put forward in the America 2000 Goals are of greatest
>interest, but other areas are welcome.

>I would be interested in hearing if any states or national groups are working
>to improve upon the NCATE program accreditation process for teacher preparation
>programs offered by Colleges of Education.

>I will collect information for a few days and then post a summary to this 
>group.

It matters not.  The only thing which will make much difference is if the
teacher preparation programs require the candidates to know their subjects
in absolute terms, not relative, and to change the entire teaching 
philosophy from mediocrity and uniformity to great diversity and 
understanding.
-- 
Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
Phone: (317)494-6054
hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Internet, bitnet)  
{purdue,pur-ee}!pop.stat!hrubin(UUCP)
Newsgroups: misc.education
From: kreed@tjhsst.vak12ed.edu (Ken W. Reed)
Subject: Need help reaching Compuserve Mailbox
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Fairfax)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 16:58:14 GMT

I was recently in Germany and visited a friend who is a
subscriber to Compuserve.  He gave me an E-Mail address that I
am not able to access.  The address is merely a series of six
numbers followed by a comma and three additional numbers.  I
think there must be more in the way of a prefix, something that
he, as a Compuserve user, may have taken for granted that I
would know.  Have any suggestions?

Thanks.

Ken
-- 
*******************************************************
Ken Reed
7304 Charlesborough Court
Lorton, VA  22079
Newsgroups: misc.education
From: rshelly@rvgs.vak12ed.edu (Rick Shelly)
Subject: Performance Assessment / Computer Science
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Roanoke)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 14:09:41 GMT

We are looking for dialogue with any secondary teacher,
university professor, administrator, or curriculum person
interested in the use of portfolios in secondary computer
science. If you have an interest please let me know. Our school
is a specialized, secondary, regional, non-residential, academic year
Governor's School for Science, Mathematics, and Technology in
Roanoke, Virginia. We would sure welcome folks who would like
to discuss applications of these portfolios in the specific
area of Computer Science. Thanks. Rick Shelly
                                  703-981-2116.
Xref: sparky misc.education:3267 misc.jobs.misc:6240
From: sayre@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Frank Sayre)
Newsgroups: misc.education,misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Need info on correspondence degree programs
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:46:30 GMT
Organization: Vanderbilt University Computer Center
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1


There are number of "universities" offering BA/BS, MA/MS, PhD's
to working professionals by correspondence, i.e. you don't attend
classes but work from your home submitting classwork and papers
via US mail or electronically.  They usually claim to be accredited.
The accreditation is usually from the state they are located in, tho'
I believe I've seen some claim recognition from US Dept of Educ (??).
They cater to working professionals, and the degrees are in prof.
areas, e.g. MBA, CS, Educational Admin, etc. The programs are advertised
in various publications, e.g. the classifieds in the back of Fortune.
Several of them are located in California.

Does anyone have any knowledge of such programs or experience with
them? Please name which ones.

What is the course work like? Do they use textbooks, periodical
articles, etc, as in traditional university programs, or do they use
use their own workbooks or other "canned" materials?

How much leaway do they give students in defining projects, electing
course work?

Can anyone elaborate on the value of the accreditation of these programs? 

If you were conducting interviews for a position in your organization
for which an MBA would be a prerequisite or a plus, would you recognize  
value in an MBA from a correspondence program?

Are such degrees merely minor career enhancers for people who already 
have traditional Bachelors or Masters, i.e. just icing on the cake?
Or are they to some degree the "wave of the future", as traditional 
higher education becomes untenably expensive?

Have you read or are you aware of any formal/published review or 
other evaluation of correspondence programs?

Thanks for any replies of any nature. Please post in follow-ups so 
that other readers may benefit.

============================================================
Frank C. Sayre         
sayre@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu
From: nicke@fy.chalmers.se (Niklas Lundin )
Newsgroups: misc.education
Subject: STUDY A YEAR IN USA!!!
Date: 4 Sep 92 09:38:47 GMT
Organization: Chalmers Univ. of Technology, G|teborg, Sweden

Hi there!

   I'm now starting my second year of studies at Chalmers University of 
technology in Gothenburg, Sweden and I would really like to be able to
study my fourth year in the States. 
 
   I wonder if any of you out there now how the system for this kind of 
thing works??
   
   What would the schools require of me as applicant??

Thanks a lot for your help!!



Please send your replys to my email account.

*****************************************************************************

Niklas Lundin               Chalmers University of Technology 
nicke@fy.chalmers.se        Gothenburg, Sweden

*****************************************************************************
Newsgroups: misc.education
From: SEB1525@MVS.draper.com (Steve Bacher)
Subject: Homeschooling:  The Practical Aspects
Organization: Draper Laboratory
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:46:00 GMT


An interesting discussion (leave us not call it a "flamefest") has been
going on in misc.kids about homeschooling.  Now, getting past the
question of whether homeschooling is a Good Thing, I would like to
get some Real, Practical Information about it, which is why I have
posted to both misc.kids and misc.education, but with slightly
different contents.

Once you've decided to go for homeschooling, how do you manage the
legal and sociopolitical aspects of it?  Most municipal school systems
and town halls are none too encouraging, not to say downright hostile,
when it comes to teaching your kid(s) at home.

How can you make sure that your kid gets the education she needs
by the time she enters high school?  Parents aren't professional
educators, and they will need some kind of guidance or program to
know they're not letting whole areas of study go by the boards.

What about equivalency diplomas, standardized tests, etc.?

What do you tell your friends, neighbors, local cop on the beat,
colleages, and (most of all) other kids about where Junior is
doing her study?

Any information about the John Holt center here in Cambridge or
Arlington, MA, would be most welcome.  (I lost the address.)

These are serious questions for anyone who plans to embark upon this.
I really need to know the answers.

--
Steve Bacher (Batchman)                 Draper Laboratory
Internet: seb@draper.com                Cambridge, MA, USA
Newsgroups: misc.education
From: hadgraft@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (Roger Hadgraft, Civil staff, ext 4983)
Subject: PBL - Problem-Based Learning
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 01:02:04 GMT

If you are interested in PBL, you can now subscribe to our mailing list by 
sending a one line mail message:

	sub pbl-list firstname lastname

to: listserv@eng.monash.edu.au

Send items to the list using the address: pbl-list@eng.monash.edu.au

Don't confuse the two addresses!

--
Roger Hadgraft, Senior Lecturer in Civil Engineering
Monash University, Clayton, Victoria, AUSTRALIA, 3168.
phone: 03 565 4983  fax: 03 565 4944 or 3409 intnl: +61 3 565 ....
e-mail: roger.hadgraft@eng.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: misc.education
From: rhopes@tjhsst.vak12ed.edu (Robin Hopes)
Subject: Help R Kids - States & Province Race
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Fairfax)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 19:31:00 GMT

          My 6th grade class in Falls Church, Virginia would like to
          see how many US states and Canadian provinces/territories
          will respond to a brief survey which will be created when
          school begins on September 8.  We think the "E-mail"
          responses will take less time than the "snail mail" surveys
          completed last year by younger students in our school
          system.
                Let me know if you are interested and one of
	  my students will send you a survey to complete when
	  school begins. We hope to create a database of the
	  information obtained from the surveys.  Wish us luck
	  and Godspeed.
                                        Thanks :-;
          P.S.  Welcome back to school

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Robin Hopes                   rhopes@tjhsst.vak12ed.edu
      ;-> MIDDLE SCHOOLS R USER FRIENDLY! ;->
George Mason Middle School    Falls Church City Schools
+7124 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church, VA 22043 (703)2417654

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