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From: jwt@duke.cs.duke.edu (Jeffrey W. Tannehill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: 8mm and dd
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:44:54 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.


	We have an 8mm tape drive attached via a scsi cable to our SGI IRIS 4D.
It seems to work as expected with the SGI backup and restore utilities and 
with the BSD dump and restore commands.  However, whenever I try the dd
command to write I get:

> dd if=/etc/motd of=/dev/tape
	dd: writer error: Invalid argument
	0+1 records in
	0+1 records out

Similarly, when trying to read the tape (just in case something actually went 
to tape) I get:

>dd if=/dev/tape
	dd: read error: Invalid argument
	0+0 records in
	0+0 records out

Next, if I try another blocksize, then I get another error when reading:

>dd if=/dev/tape bs=1k
	dd: read error: No space left on device
	0+0 records in
	0+0 records out

The man page for dd doesn't indicate that it works differently than the 
dd command I am accustomed to on a Sun or Decstation.  Also, I tried the 
device names /dev/tape, /dev/nrtape, /dev/rmt/tps1d5nrns, and 
/dev/mt/tps1d5nrns. Has anyone had this problem? Is there some special options 
one needs to use with dd on an SGI to access a scsi 8mm tape device?
	Thanks for any help.
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From: misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel)
Subject: Re: Can I use the font mgr within a gl object?
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 18:35:09 GMT

In article <7202@charon.cwi.nl>, jack@cwi.nl (Jack Jansen) writes:

> I've been trying to use strings printed through the font manager (with
> fmprstr()) within gl objects, i.e. between makeobj() and closeobj().

   You can call callfunc() to call a function that calls fmprstr().  This
works (I've done it); but SGI is now advising people not to use callfunc(). 

> Alternatively, I would also be helped if there is some way to render fm
> strings into an incore bitmap (so I can simply lrectwrite() the bitmap
> to the screen whenever I need it).

   Can you render the strings to the screen, and then do an lrectread()?

misrael@csi.uottawa.ca			Mark Israel
Sunbeams brightly play, where Fancy's fair pavilion once is pight.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
Subject: Re: Incoming UUCP flow control problem?
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 03:06:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.152548.19218@alias.com>, chk@alias.com (C. Harald Koch) writes:
> We have a SGI IRIS-4D/80S running IRIX 4.0.1 with a 6-port serial board.
> There are two modems used exclusively for UUCP connected to the on-board
> modem ports, and four more modems connected to the 6-port board. All modems
> are Telebits; the two UUCP modems and two of the others are TB+; the
> remaining two are T2500s.

What is a Telebit "UUCP modem"?

> ....
> This looks suspiciously like a flow-control problem....


Using a break-out box in series with the computer and each modem, test
to see if dropping RTS or CTS stops output from the appropriate
device.

Using two break-out boxes in series with two modems, call one modem
with the other using cu.  Again test the effects of RTS and CTS.  Use
control-S to cu to make the one side stop receiving, and `cat bigfile >
/dev/ttyfZZ` to stuff a bunch of data down the other modem.  See if the
computer drops RTS, and then see if the far modem drops CTS.  Reverse
and try the other direction.


If all of that fails to uncover bad cabling or modem settings, check to
see that the 4D/80 is not suffering long periods of interrupts being
disabled.  Each "kernel printf" turns off interrupts for its duration.
While interrupts are off, in-coming flow control is not handled.

Output flow control is done by the hardware.  That you see UUCP file
transmissions fail implies the problem is in the modems or the
cabling.

Please note that 6-port boards with the older firmware will generally
get less than 960 B/s through UUCP.  I do not know how you might get
the new firmware.  It requires IRIX 4.0.5.


Vernon Schryver,   vjs@sgi.com
From: yaron@ARISTO.TAU.AC.IL (Yaron Zabary)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: ENP0 problems on a 4D 240S
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:18:13 GMT
Organization: Computation Center, Tel-Aviv University


Hello all,

  We have a 4D/240S with following hinv:

ccsg28# hinv
Processor 0: 25 MHZ IP7
FPU: MIPS R2010A/R3010 VLSI Floating Point Chip Revision: 2.0
CPU: MIPS R2000A/R3000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0
Processor 1: 25 MHZ IP7
FPU: MIPS R2010A/R3010 VLSI Floating Point Chip Revision: 2.0
CPU: MIPS R2000A/R3000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0
Processor 2: 40 MHZ IP7
FPU: MIPS R2010A/R3010 VLSI Floating Point Chip Revision: 4.0
CPU: MIPS R2000A/R3000 Processor Chip Revision: 3.0
Processor 3: 40 MHZ IP7
FPU: MIPS R2010A/R3010 VLSI Floating Point Chip Revision: 4.0
CPU: MIPS R2000A/R3000 Processor Chip Revision: 3.0
Data cache size: 64 Kbytes
Instruction cache size: 64 Kbytes
Main memory size: 64 Mbytes
ENP-10 Ethernet controller 0, firmware version 4 (SGI)
Integral Ethernet controller: Version 2
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93
Tape drive: unit 7 on SCSI controller 0: QIC 150
Tape drive: unit 6 on SCSI controller 0: 8mm cartridge
Tape drive: unit 5 on SCSI controller 0: 8mm cartridge
Disk drive: unit 4 on SCSI controller 0
Disk drive: unit 3 on SCSI controller 0
Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0
ccsg29# uname -a
ccsg ccsg 3.3.3L 06110138 IP7

 Every time I reboot the machine, it complains that it cannot configure enp0 as
ccsg-es (that is the output of echo "\n*** WARNING: failed to configure $1 as $2\n"
from /etc/init.d/network). I once even got an error message from a manual ifconfig
I issued. If I manually ifconfig enp0, everything is just fine, but that is a pain.
Can someone help ? Will it help to put a sleep 30 as the first line of this rc file,
to let some driver to load ?

-- 

-- Yaron.
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-- Yaron.
From: avinash@felix.contex.com (Avinash Chopde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: X programs in C++, why do they need -DFUNCPROTO ?
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:07:56 GMT

I had to provide a -DFUNCPROTO option to the C++ compiler (2.11 and 3.10)
to compile a X program.
Without -DFUNCPROTO, the prototypes for XtInitialize(..), etc are not
included.

Now, is this normal behavior, or is there some other procedure
to compile C++ X programs ?
Thanks for any help....
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From: larry@abtlabs.uucp (Larry Pajakowski)
Subject: 4D/80 won't boot - Should I NUKE it? HELP!!!
Organization: Abbott Laboratories
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 14:16:48 GMT

I and the owner of the machine are geting very frustrated so any help would
be MOST sincerly appreciated.

We have a 4D/80 which when we try to boot gives:

  "SC 0,1,0: cmd=0x28 unexpected info phase 46, state 49, resettng SCSI bus"

Sometimes, but not often,  after 40+ tries it will "catch" and boot.  From
then on the machine seems normal.

Some history.  The machine is under maintenance and the local folks have
replaced literally everyting except the case, backplane and power supply.
Some of the cables have been replaced.  This all started about the time I
put 4.0.1 on the machine.  It has been upgraded from 4.0.1 to 4.0.4 and
yesterday 4.0.5.  Our local CE has spend alot of time with the factory
trying to figure this out to no avail.

If anyone can help shed some light on this I sure would like to hear from
you.  So as to not bore anybody all the particulars about the  machine
config and it's history are after my sig.

Many thank's.

in frustration:

Larry Pajakowski
Abbott Labs.
larry@turing.abbott.com
1-708-937-1153


Some particulars:

The machine was a 4D/50 and has been upgraded to a 4D/80.  Ran that way for
almost a year ok.  There is a second and unused ethernet card.  It has GTX
graphics (which is why we keep it), a 760mb. SCSI system disk and other than
that nothing special.  We did a copy of the entire disk to another 760 using
sash.  No errors were encountered and the second disk gave the same error
messages as the original when we booted.  This machine probably started
life with IRIX 3.1.  Sigh...
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Uncorrectable errors
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:35:46 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <32350@adm.brl.mil> rme@stereo.rl.af.mil (Richard M. Evans) writes:

| Good morning (well it IS Friday),
| 
| Before I call the TAC, I was wondering what options (problems) I have
| with one of my disks (/usr).  In the SYSLOG I get many errors of the form:
| 
| 	uncorrectable error (code 23) chs=#/#/# 
| 
| repeated three times each before the FATAL message.
| 
| [ Fortunately :-(, it is my IRIX 3.3.2 /usr disk so the machine still
| functions under IRIX 4.0.1 although my graphics applications won't run
| (dials and buttons box doesn't cooperate, you know). ]

That part of your disk is hosed.  You'll have to forward the bad
section with fx; if the error is completely unrecoverable, you'll
lose that data (fx will try a number of times to read it, so
the data can be saved).
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Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
From: frank@marvin.contex.com (Frank Perdicaro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Anyone heard of Image Resources
Date: 2 Sep 92 12:10:29 GMT
Organization: Xyvision Design Systems

In article <1992Sep1.210959.562@eng.ufl.edu> ort@wasp.eng.ufl.edu () writes:
>
>Has anyone ever heard of a company named Image Resources?  If so, what
>do they do and do you have anything really good or really bad to say
>about them?
>
I can say this, they are a customer of ours.  They pay the bill, so
they cannot be too bad.  

F
i
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l
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: roberts@nimrod.wpd.sgi.com (roberts)
Subject: Re:  Need sendmail to accept mail for other machine
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:04:47 GMT

> (the dead machine is "dirac" and the working machine is "max").  However,
> when sendmail on max receives the mail for dirac (via smtp) it then tries
> to forward it on to dirac.  How can we get max to accept this mail as if
> it had arrived at its destination?  Something in sendmail.cf?

Add the dead machine name (dirac.physics.sunysb.edu) to the
/usr/lib/sendmail.killed file on max.  max will then handle mail originally
addressed to dirac.

	- Robert Stephens
	  Silicon Graphics Inc.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: Second SCSI bus for the Indigo ?
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 06:50:27 GMT

In <1992Aug24.193234.2170@vixvax.mgi.com> schoenzeit@vixvax.mgi.com (Loren Schoenzeit) writes:
| 	Does anyone know of a second SCSI I/O bus option for the
| 	SGI Indigo ??   SGI or third party.

Nope.  It wouldn't be all *that* hard for us to do one, probably
difficult for most 3rd parties.  If you (and others) want it,
you'll have to let your sales folks know it is important to you.

Of course, it would not be ready all that soon; and I can't make
any commitments, but on a *purely engineering* basis, it isn't all
that big a deal.
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because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
From: ib@ivan.esd.sgi.com (Ivan Bach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Wavefront bombs under Irix4.05
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:00:26 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA

In <BtzCuF.Lw5@news.larc.nasa.gov>, dan@cscsun2.larc.nasa.gov (Dan O'Brien)
writes:
> Will the font changes break anything?
I don't think that you should mix files from different releases, regardless
of which problems you have encountered.  We have not tested such combinations
of files, and we will have a hard time reproducing any problems caused by 
such file mixing.  If you are concerned about particular programs, such as
Wavefront programs, you should contact people at Wavefront, and ask them about 
running their programs under IRIX 4.0.5.  They probably had an early access to 
IRIX 4.0.5, and they will probably be able to tell you whether you need new 
releases of their programs.  You may just need to get new versions of their 
programs that run under IRIX 4.0.5.  If they have found some problem in IRIX 
4.0.5, they should report that problem to us, and we will do everything we can 
to fix it as soon as possible.

If you have several SGI machines, you could upgrade one of them to IRIX 4.0.5,
and check that the programs you need will run under the new release, before 
you install that release on your other machines.  The IRIS Font Manager 
(libfm) is machine independent, so the programs that use that font manager 
will probably behave the same way on different types of SGI machines.  If you 
encounter some serious problems that prevent you from running important 
programs, you should reinstall a previous release, and use that release until
those problems are solved.  Make sure that you enter the command:

    set neweroverride on

on a prompt from the program inst (Inst>).  That will allow you to install
versions of subsystems that are older than the installed subsystems.  

When you copy or move system files, instead of installing them, the 
installation history database on your machine is not updated.  When later on 
you remove subsystems or install new version of those subsystems, the system
files you put on your machine will probably not be removed or replaced. 
Those files may cause serious problems when you try to install a new release 
of the IRIX operating system.  Problems which we will probably not be able to 
reproduce on our machines, because they will not have the files you put on
your machine.

Ivan Bach, ib@sgi.com
From: mds@sgi.com (Mark Stadler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: How to control animation frame rates?
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:10:29 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Aug27.133349@gorgo.gsfc.nasa.gov> sullivan@gorgo.gsfc.nasa.gov (Dan sullivan) writes:
>	How can one measure animation frame rate on an Indigo Entry?
>I want to maintain a certain rate, but the complexity of each scene
>may vary. Is the best way to do this counting the number of scenes
>per second and adjusting accordingly? What function returns the time
>most accurately?  Any tips?
>               Thanks, Dan
>
check out the swapinterval() man page.  using this call, you can specify
the worst case frame and force swapbuffers() to swap at that rate.

--
-- mds	[aka Mark D Stadler  mds@sgi.com  ...!uunet!sgi!mds  (415)335-1327]
From: sblair@upurbmw.dell.com (Steven C. Blair "Unix Network Services")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Elm mailer return path
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:24:18 GMT
Organization: Dell Computer UNIX Networking Services

Sure make in the $HOME/.elm directory a file called .elmheaders . In
it do this:

Reply-To: name@domain.universe

-- 
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From: "alan kennedy" <alan.kennedy@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: 4d20 memory max
Date: 25 Aug 92 14:33:21 EST
Reply-To: "alan kennedy" <alan.kennedy@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

I recently asked about the max memory for a 4D70. Thanks for those who
sent mail. Its 16mb if anyone is curious.

Well this does not help my problem. I needed to upgrade one of our
computers to 32mb. My new question is, what can a 4D20 hold?

Thanks
alan.kennedy@canrem.com
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From: gray@celia.UUCP (Steve Gray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: GLX slow rendering problem
Keywords: GL, GLX, shaded rendering
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:11:11 GMT
Reply-To: celia!gray@usc.edu (Steve Gray)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rhythm & Hues, Inc., Hollywood

Is it possible that the antialiasing and/or subpixel drawing status has a 
different default on the machine you are running on now?  Or that it has
somehow gotten set different somewhere else in the program?

Just a wild guess.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: lear@yeager.corp.sgi.com (Eliot Lear)
Subject: Re: vnews
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 18:55:17 GMT

In <p6cbils@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com> vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver) writes:

>In article <1992Aug28.233114.27594@odin.corp.sgi.com>, lear@yeager.corp.sgi.com (Eliot Lear) writes:
>I've been using vnews from 2.11B for several years.  I'm using it
>to type this on a 4D/25 running IRIX 4.0.5.  That hacks needed to
>make it work were trivial.

Of that I have no doubt.  However, there is another version that has
significantly different functionality, that might not be so easy to
port (that's the one written by Ken Almquist).
--
Eliot Lear
[lear@sgi.com]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: laura@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Laura Bremen)
Subject: gl color map question
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:59:51 GMT



All of the gl applications on my machine appear predominantly 
black.  Is there a way I can reset the colormap?  (Assuming 
this is the problem.)

Thanks,

 
Laura Bremen 				laura@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
Homewood Academic Computing		(410) 516-8555
Johns Hopkins University
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Johns Hopkins University
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From: yyang@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (yongqi yang)
Subject: SCSI disk for 4D/20
Originator: yyang@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 23:19:28 GMT

Cheers.
I am planning to buy an 1.2-1.6 gb SCSI disk for our 4D/20 personal iris.
We would like to know the best place to get the best DEAL!!!!!!
So far we have discussed this with INTROL to get a estimate of the price
and were quoted $2700.00 for the 1.6 gb disk.  IS this reasonable or
are better places for this type of hardware? 

HELP US PLEASE!

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: chc@orion.ksc.nasa.gov (Charles Curley)
Subject: XWsh key mapping question
Organization: Boeing Aerospace Operations, Inc., Kennedy Space Center, Florida
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:15:11 GMT

My current "xwsh*keyMapping0" value is 'Delete(any): send("\177");' and
this works fine (makes shift delete send delete instead of some escape
sequence).   My question is how do I make Control-Space send a null?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
Subject: Re: Hardware Ethernet adress ?
Keywords: ethernet
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 18:34:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.140211.3659@news.uni-stuttgart.de>, zrm30423@nfhsn5.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Florian Wohlgemuth) writes:
> Hi!
> 
> How do I get the hardware ethernet adress on a Personal Iris 4D/25 (IP6) ?
> nvram works only on IP12 (Indigo) Systems ...


I think the `nvram` command works on all systems running IRIX 4.0 or
better.  It certainly works on 4D/25's here.

You can also use `/usr/etc/netstat -ia`.


Vernon Schryver,  vjs@sgi.com
From: bean@putter.wpd.sgi.com (Bean Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: 3.10 Based C++/Fortran 77
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:47:46 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc.

In article <1992Sep2.171736.10178@spatial.com>, alek@spatial.com (Alek O. Komarnitsky) writes:
|
|> 
|> WRT C++, what version of AT&T cfront/etc. is the 3.10 release based upon?
|> If not AT&TC++3.0, is there any timetable when that will become available?

C++ under the 3.10 compilers includes both C++3.0 and C++2.1 with
3.0 being the default; "CC -v2" gives you the older C++2.1.


|> 
|> Mucho Thanx, 

Your welcome.


		Bean
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: davea@quasar.wpd.sgi.com (David B.Anderson)
Subject: Re: help: fortran/libcgs.a
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:31:20 GMT

In article <5547@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu> 6500hsb@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Howard Bergh) writes:
>I am trying to compile mcnp (neutron transport simulator)
>on a 320VGX.  It requires a library file: libcgs.a  I
>obtained a copy of this library from another SGI computer.
>When I try to link the *.u files I get an error stating
>that libcgs.a doesn't have a table of contents and to
>add one using "ar ts"  If I run "ar ts" the libcgs.a file
>is not changed, and If I look at the file it starts with
>a _.SYMDEF. "ar t" gives a correct listing of object files.


If it really has a _.SYMDEF file it is NOT an sgi/mips archive.  These
start with a file named ___________EBEB (approximately).  (this is in any
compiler release up thru 2.20/2.40.  After that archives default (in 3.10
compilers) to SVR4 archive format). No _.SYMDEF there either.

>What is going on?  How can I tell if my library has a table
>of contents, and if it does, why else might I be getting this
>error.
>
>	thanks, 	Sam
>
>hbergh@topgun2.ucsb.edu

On the surface it would appear the files in the archive are not exclusively
sgi/mips object files.   ar(1) refuses to build a table of contents in that
case.

Extract all the files and try the file command on each one extracted from
the archive to see what it is. Discard files which are not valid objects.
remove the archive and rebuild it.

(For Ucode, the archive is conventionally named *.b:  libcgs.b for
example).

Hope this helps.
[ David B. Anderson             (415)390-1548             davea@sgi.com ]
From: fred@poly2.nist.gov (Frederick R. Phelan Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Xterm program
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:31:32 GMT


When I run xterm from the iris to an x terminal,
the .login file is not processed.  Hence, no
backspace key, no path etc. etc.  Anyone know of 
a way to fix this.

Cheers,

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