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From: eric@pencom.com
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: A couple of hands.
Date: 17 Apr 92 13:17:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: pencom.1992Apr17.131728.5300
Organization: Pencom Software

In article <2939@sol.deakin.OZ.AU> doug@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Douglas Newlands)  
writes:
> In article <baseggi1.703480844@husc8: baseggi1@husc8.harvard.edu (Franco  
Baseggio) writes:
> :eric@pencom.com writes:
> :
> :>White-White You (South) hold :  x/AKJxx/Qx/AJ109x
> :
> :>Bidding proceeds :
> :>E       S        W         N
> :>P       1H       P         3H(1)
> :>4S      ???
> :
> :>(1) Normal limit raise with 4+
> :
> :>Is a pass forcing?
> 
> Absolutely not, you pass with all minimum hands which don't
> have a clear action like double.

Hmmm.   This is NOT how I understand them.  I understand that you
double when you have a minimum with no suprises.  A pass shows
a willingness to continue.  Here it seems like my club suit is a
"suprise", but what should my hand look like in order to
introduce it?

> 
> :>what is your proper action.
> 
> You have shown a 7 loser hand but you have a 5- loser hand, you
> must make another bid. Your defensive values in hearts are very
> dubious but you'll still probably put this off but making 5+H
> will be much better.
> 
> :>Given that it is not, what is your proper action.
> 
> Bid 5C to show partner where you're source of tricks is.
> 
> :>Assume that you are playing with a trusted partner, but
> :>not an established partnership.
> 
> This seems basic, all partners should understand 5C.


Any comments Franco?
From: matthew@pram.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Matchpoints, opposite a 2C opener
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:12:18 GMT
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department

With a novice partner, playing NO GADGETS
At Matchpoints
White vs. White
You want to play flawlessly to give partner confidence (read: don't be a hog
because partner is a newbie).

You hold:
AJxx
9x
Tx
Q9xxx

Partner holds (and deals):
Kxx
AKQxx
AKQJx
(void)

We managed to end up in 5NT, which makes on the matchpoints defense of taking
the top two clubs.  Our auction:

2C-2D
2H-3C
3D-3S
4D-4N
5H-5S
5N

Can you provide a less perverse auction?
--

Matthew Merzbacher	ARPA:	matthew@CS.UCLA.EDU
Moo - Moo Moo  		UUCP:	...!{uunet|rutgers|ucbvax}!cs.ucla.edu!matthew
               		This time, *with* the oys
From: asya@ux5.lbl.gov (Asya Kamsky)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: Rules about psychs?
Keywords: Psychs, artificial bids
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:11:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: overload.1992Apr6.191157.3665
Reply-To: asya@ux5.lbl.gov (Asya Kamsky)
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory

In article <davidm.702580090@rutabaga> davidm@rutabaga.Rational.COM (David Moore) writes:
>Is it true that the GCC does not allow weak twos with less than 7 points? 

No, it's not.  Why don't you get a copy (you can write to the ACBL and ask
them to send you one, or you can get a copy at almost any regional if there
is a copy machine nearby).

>If I open a weak two with less than 7 points, do I have to report a psych, or
>is this banned outright? What about if I only have a five card suit, or
>for that matter a singleton in the other major?

You can open a weak two with anything. By partnership agreement, if you may
have fewer than 5HCP OR fewer than 5 in that suit or a point-range of more
than 7HCP, then you may not play any conventions over that.
-- 
"In nature there are no rewards or punishments, only consequences"

Asya Kamsky	      e-mail: asya@ux5.lbl.gov                   Go Red Sox
"In order to command you must first learn to submit" - chinese fortune cookie
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From: sgm@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (Myerson)
Subject: Re: 2 Problems (IMPS) - but only 1 answered
Organization: Raytheon Company
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:55:36 GMT

bs@gauss.mitre.org (Robert D. Silverman) writes:

BS: Here's two problems. IMPS against a BAD team.
BS:
BS: (1) You hold Both Vul.   7x, AQ10xx, AKJx, Kx
BS: 
BS: The auction:
BS: 
BS: You LHO  Pard RHO
BS: 1H  2C    2S   P
BS: 3D  P     3S
BS: 
BS: You do NOT play negative freebids. Partner has a good (but not game-forcing)
BS: hand. 
BS: 
BS: Your call?   There are only 2 choices. 4S and 3NT.  4S will be right

This is the type of hand where if I bid 3N, dummy will hit with
AKxxxx, Jx, xxx, Qx. The king of hearts will be offside so 3N goes
down while 4S rolls home on 3-2 spades.

If I bid 4S, partner will have KQJxxx, Kx, x, JTxx.
The opening club lead will be through my Kx, and the defense will
start with 2 clubs, a club ruff with the EIGHT, with the setting
trick to be the ace of trumps. 3N has a good shot.

However, in spite of this, I'm bidding 4S for the following reasons:

1. Partner has to play the hand. This hand rates to be tough
   and I'd rather have my partner struggle than me. :-)
   Besides, declarer play is the weakest part of my game.
2. Partner could have bid 3N with the semblance of a club stopper.
   Either partner doesn't have one or wishes to stress the spades.
3. We're playing against a BAD team. A BAD player won't bid 3N
   with Kx as a stopper in the opponents' suit.
   This board is difficult and I wouldn't want to risk a swing on it.
   I'm playing for a push on this board.

Steve Myerson (sgm@sgfb.ssd.ray.com)
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From: bs@gauss.mitre.org (Robert D. Silverman)
Subject: Re: Bid these hands
Organization: Research Computer Facility, MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 21:51:40 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.161858.2457@otago.ac.nz> murat@otago.ac.nz writes:
>In article <2300@accucx.cc.ruu.nl>, vlucht@accucx.cc.ruu.nl (vlucht) writes:
>> In <ktfehkINNiq0@bovina.cs.utexas.edu> varvel@cs.utexas.edu (Donald A. Varvel) writes:
>> 
>>>Both vulnerable, South dealer, matchpoints:
>> 
>>>North:    S    H    D    C
>>>          ----------------
>>>          A    A    A    x
>>>          K    x    x    x
>>>          x    x         x
>>>          x    x
>> 
>>>South:    x    K    x    A
>>>               Q    x    K
>>>               x         Q
>>>                         J
>>>                         T
>>>                         9
>>>                         x
>> 
>> [stuff deleted]
>>>I don't claim this was a great bidding sequence.  I just don't 
>>>know how to improve on it, and would like to see what others 
>>>think.
 
OK, OK, I give up!

I posted an opinion that this hand wasn't very interesting and that
reaching the grand was easy. I will not give an auction from one of
my favorite systems: ROMAN.
 
1H (1)   1NT(2)
3C (3)   7NT

(1) Yes, the opening bid is 1H. Roman frequently opens with 3 card
    majors.

(2) Showing 12-15 HCP and no 5 card suit and no singletons.

(3) Showing at least 6 good clubs and **exactly** 4 losers.
    [canape]

7NT is now obvious.

Can anyone else find a shorted auction to 7NT?? (2 bid apiece!!!)
--
Bob Silverman
These are my opinions and not MITRE's.
Mitre Corporation, Bedford, MA 01730
"You can lead a horse's ass to knowledge, but you can't make him think"
From: valley@gsbsun.uchicago.edu (Doug Dougherty)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: hesitating with a singleton
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:06:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

sgm@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (Myerson) writes:

>If you have one card remaining in a suit, and declared leads that suit,
>but you want to think for a minute, place your card face down on
>the table (in tempo), do your thinking, and then turn your card over.
>This way, it will be obvious that you are not thinking about which card
>to play, but rather about something else (such as, Should I return partner's
>suit when I get in? Why did I double? Where should we go for dinner? etc).

I think the suggestion to play the card (face up) and then do your
thinking (before quitting the card) is better.  If they ask why you are
just sitting there, you can explain that you are thinking about
"something else" and are not yet ready to continue.  (Or you can explain
that your mind just slipped into neutral, as sometimes happens...)
****************************************************************************
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"He's trying to give up drinking, but his girlfriend hasn't left him yet."

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From: mike@archsci.arch.su.oz.au
Subject: leading
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 01:46:02 GMT

If your card states that you overlead and you lead Q from KQx is this
cheating or (since you have fooled partner too) its ok. This situation
came up at the club last week;

I was in 6H. the QS was led and dummy had AJ10xx in spades and I had xx.
Entries in to dummy were short and I needed a discard on the spades.
I ducked the first spade and a small spade was then led. What now?

actually the leader had KQx. If the K is led it can be ducked and a
finnesse taken against the Q and a discard on the A.

Is the lead illegal? or are you allowed to lead anything. In this case I
don't think it was cheating. The opposition was pretty feeble but it worked.

In general can you attempt to mislead declarer in this way if you mislead
partner as well? If your card says leads 4th highest can you lead 5th or 3rd.

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From: bs@faron.mitre.org (Robert D. Silverman)
Subject: Re: Rules about psychs?
Keywords: Psychs, artificial bids
Organization: Research Computer Facility, MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1992 01:50:54 GMT

In article <1992Apr2.005312.5192@overload.lbl.gov> asya@ux5.lbl.gov (Asya Kamsky) writes:
:In article <1992Mar30.175029.17298@linus.mitre.org> bs@gauss.mitre.org (Robert D. Silverman) writes:
:>It is illegal to psyche STRONG FORCING ARTIFICIAL OPENINGS.  It is not
:>illegal to psyche artificial bids.
:
:Sorry, Bob, that is wrong, go stand in the corner with Don, and your
:punishment will be the same:  You have to let 3 inane postings go by
:on r.g.b without following up on them (I know, I'm tough!)
:
:It's illegal to psyche artificial opening bids.  
 
I have seen a very senior director rule that it is perfectly OK
to psyche a Flannery opening. That is certainly an artificial 
opening bid. The only requirement is that the bid not be forcing.

It is certainly not illegal to psyche a (matchpoint) precision 1D
opening and that bid certainly is artificial as it does not promise
even 2 diamonds.

--
Bob Silverman
These are my opinions and not MITRE's.
Mitre Corporation, Bedford, MA 01730
"You can lead a horse's ass to knowledge, but you can't make him think"
From: kibler@turing.ICS.UCI.EDU (Dennis Kibler)
Subject: Re: Matchpoints, opposite a 2C opener
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:00:54 GMT



>You hold:
>AJxx
>9x
>Tx
>Q9xxx

>Partner holds (and deals):
>Kxx
>AKQxx
>AKQJx
>(void)

>We managed to end up in 5NT, which makes on the matchpoints defense of taking
>the top two clubs.  Our auction:

>2C-2D
>2H-3C   3 clubs should not be bid with such a weak suit.
          Here's a likely auction from partner and I.
         You can decide whose auction is more perverse.

  2c-2h  (shows 2 controls)
  3h-3nt
  4d-4h
  6h         Do we make it?

dennis
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Subject: Re: 1S, 2S, or 2NT?
From: avir@chen.bgu.ac.il (Avi Roy Shapira)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:51:34 GMT
Organization: Ben Gurion University, Beer Sheva, Israel

varvel@cs.utexas.edu (Donald A. Varvel) writes:
: I was recently rereading Kit Woolsey's _Matchpoints_ and found
: a hand similar to one discussed on the net some time ago.  On
: p.41, review problem 9:  E-W vul., South holds:
: AJ93 A3 A42 KQJ9.  You open 1C, partner responds 1H.  Your bid?
:
: Woolsey's discussion:
:
:     Time to bypass a four-card spade suit with a 2NT rebid?
:     Certainly a potential gain if North doesn't have four
:     spades, as South would welcome a spade lead.  But what
:     if North does have four spades?  Then 4S is almost
:     certainly worth an extra trick over notrump, for South
:     has strong spades and a weak diamond holding.  Therefore,
:     South's best rebid is 2S.
With all due respect to Woolsey, I think that to rebid 2S with the above hand is an abomination. This is a sure way to miss mino

I fail to see a problem with 2N. Partner has only 2 sign off bids. Pass and a
simple rebid of his suit. 3C can be used as a check back, or as a natural bid,
either way, partner has the option of showing his spades en-route to 3NT.

If one is so concerned about missing the spades, bid 1S. Partner should pass this with 5-6 points and 3 spades, so nothing is lo

I prefer an immediate 2NT, since it shows both my strength and distribution at
once.


: Every time a 4-[2,3]-[3,2]-4 hand with 18-19 HCP comes up,
: somebody asks "Why not bid 2NT?  Partner can check back with
: 3C."  The answer is in two parts.  First, this is *far* from
: standard.  Second, there are good reasons why many of us
: consider it inferior to both alternatives.
:
: -- Don Varvel (varvel@cs.utexas.edu)
I wonder how you play 1C - 1(RED); 2NT 3C. Will you consider passing?
Avi
From: desj@idacrd.UUCP (David desJardins)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: Misalert
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:09:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: IDA Center for Communications Research

In article <1992Apr15.003229.20922@linus.mitre.org> bs@faron.mitre.org (Robert D. Silverman) writes:
>I agree with it 110%. I would also file a recorder slip, because
>**on the surface of it** it does appear you were looking for a 
>double shot by passing 3NT.

It doesn't make any sense to say that he was looking for a double shot
by bidding 3NT.  If he didn't look at their card, why would he suspect
that there was any misinformation?  If he did look at their card, then
he would have known that the bid showed clubs and thus 3NT would have
no chance at all.  Either way he doesn't have anything special to
gain.

I agree that he didn't bid the hand very well, but I don't see the
slightest sign of an ulterior motivation.  You're putting a
ridiculously heavy burden on the nonoffending side.

As for the auction itself, I think that there are a lot of reasonable
ways to bid this hand.  In order of my preference:

1) Sign off in 3C, planning to compete to 3S if necessary.
2) Sign off in 2S.
3) Force to game, bidding clubs and then spades.

					David desJardins
From: doug@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Douglas Newlands)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: Bid these hands
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:57:35 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computing & Mathematics, Deakin University, Australia

In article <1992Apr8.215140.14901@linus.mitre.org> bs@gauss.mitre.org (Robert D. Silverman) writes:
:In article <1992Apr5.161858.2457@otago.ac.nz> murat@otago.ac.nz writes:
:>In article <2300@accucx.cc.ruu.nl>, vlucht@accucx.cc.ruu.nl (vlucht) writes:
:>> In <ktfehkINNiq0@bovina.cs.utexas.edu> varvel@cs.utexas.edu (Donald A. Varvel) writes:
:>> 
:>>>North:    S    H    D    C
:>>>          ----------------
:>>>          A    A    A    x
:>>>          K    x    x    x
:>>>          x    x         x
:>>>          x    x
:>> 
:>>>South:    x    K    x    A
:>>>               Q    x    K
:>>>               x         Q
:>>>                         J
:>>>                         T
:>>>                         9
:>>>                         x
:my favorite systems: ROMAN.
: 
:1H (1)   1NT(2)
:3C (3)   7NT
:
:Can anyone else find a shorted auction to 7NT?? (2 bid apiece!!!)
:--
:Bob Silverman

Yes easy
		S	N
		-	-
		4D	7NT

For those of you who don't recognise the convention in use it is the
apocryphal Blenkinsop asking demand trial cue bid where 4D shows a solid
7 card minor and a side KQ, 7NT is now obvious!

(with apologies to Bob)

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  |   /   |   |   |   |  \__/   |   /   |   \
  |__/    \__ /   \__/|   __|  _|_  \__/|  __) o
From: nair@astro.ufl.edu (Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Problems from Pasadena
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:48:50 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Astronomy, Univ. of Florida
Originator: nair@quasar


   Hand # 1.  You deal.
   1) QJ9xx, x, KJTxx, Jx
   Auction :

   Pass      3H      Pass       Pass
   3S        Pass    3NT         X
   ?
   - Pass.  Of course.  There may be a diamond fit most probably, but
   no guarantee that 4D is a make.

   Hand # 2.  You deal.
   2) KQx, AK9x, QJ, A7xx
   Auction :

   1C     Pass    1D      Pass
   1H     2C      Pass    Pass
   ?
   - Double.  If he/she trots out to 2D, then one last try with 2NT.

   Hand # 3.  Partner deals.
   3) Q9xx, x, KQT, AQJ8x
   Auction :

   Pass      2S (weak)   3C     Pass
   3D        Pass        ?

   - Pass.  I could get cute & try 3S, but if he doesn't have the CK or
   if it is protected somewhere, we are in deep ....

   Hand # 4.  You deal.
   4) QJT, AJ7xx, Kxx, Jx
   Auction : 
	   1H       Pass         2D        4C
	   Pass     Pass         4S        Pass
	   ?
   - 5D.  If he has 2C & 1H, pass.  If has 2H & 1C with good spades &
   diamonds he ought to bid slam.  Yeah its worth taking the bidding to
   the 5 level.

   Hand # 5.  Partner deals.
   5) Ax, KQxxxx, Kxx, Qx
   Auction :
	   1NT    2S      4D(Texas)     5C
	   Pass   Pass    6H            Pass
	   Pass   X       ?
   - Pass.  What the hell kind of bid is 6H.  Also what does his pass
   of 5C mean?

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Damo Nair
Dept. of Astronomy
Univ.of FLorida
nair@astro.ufl.edu
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From: davidm@rutabaga.Rational.COM (David Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: Rules about psychs?
Keywords: Psychs, artificial bids
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:08:10 GMT

Is it true that the GCC does not allow weak twos with less than 7 points? 

If I open a weak two with less than 7 points, do I have to report a psych, or
is this banned outright? What about if I only have a five card suit, or
for that matter a singleton in the other major?
From: kibler@turing.ICS.UCI.EDU (Dennis Kibler)
Subject: Book review
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:11:05 GMT

I would appreciate reading book reviews from others,
so I thought I'd start this line with one of my own.

Brillancies and Blunders in the European Championship
by Terence Reese.

 The title is accurate but the depth of analysis
is disappointing and I'm a fan of Reese's earlier books.
Reese doesn't like  the modern bidding styles (e.g. opening
 1 spade= 8-11 pts and less than 3 spades or more than 5 spades).
Consequently he has little constructive to say about the
auctions, which he admits ignorance of, and jumps to the analysis
of the play. Even here he makes an occasional error.

 I don't think this book of approximately 30 hands is worth
the $14 I paid.

dennis
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From: sgm@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (Myerson)
Subject: Re: Somewhat Bizarre Hand
Organization: Raytheon Company
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:04:45 GMT

bpwing@phoenix.princeton.edu (Ben Wing) writes
in article <95467@guiche.princeton.edu>

BW: Here's a pretty strange hand that came up last night at the duplicate club.
BW: (I was south)
BW: 
BW:       x
BW:       K Q T 9 x x x
BW:       x
BW:       K Q x x
BW:
BW: A Q x x x         K x x x
BW: x                 J x x x
BW: A K J x x x       Q x x
BW: 5                 J 4
BW: 
BW:       J x x
BW:       A
BW:       T x x
BW:       A T 9 x x x
BW:
BW: Bidding: (none vul)
BW: 
BW: N  E  S  W
BW: 1H P  2C 2D
BW: 3H P  4H 4S
BW: 5C P  P  5D
BW: 5H X  P  P
BW: P
BW: 
BW: (E opened the J of clubs)
BW: 
BW: I had never played with my partner before last night, and I don't think E-W
BW: had played together much before either.  I couldn't believe the bidding from
BW: W, and E couldn't believe the bidding in general, considering what he had
BW: in his hand.  Turns out, though, that E-W can make either 5D or 5S, and
BW: N-S make 5C and go down one in 5H.
BW: 
BW: How should this bidding go?  N shouldn't bid 3H; perhaps he should bid 4H
BW: instead?  Or maybe he should just open 4H directly? 

This is not the hand to be opening 4H. A club contract would be fine with N.
Let's see you get there after opening 4H.

BW: In this case, I thought
BW: that if West were playing Michaels, he could bid 2H.

Even if EW were playing Michaels (and is it Michaels when it is not
an immediate cuebid?), I think West has bid the hand properly.
The diamonds are longer and stronger, and West may be biding time
to make sure that North is not about to bid spades over him.
Just because your opponents are playing a convention doesn't
mean they have to use it!

BW: How can E-W know that they are cold for 5D or 5S, however?

West is bidding up a storm, showing a huge 2-suiter.
East is looking at Qxx and Kxxx in partner's suits.
Those cards are obviously *not* in West's hand.
They are *huge* cards.  East has an easy bid of 5S.

As for doubling 5H, nope! Much too risky.
How many spade and diamond tricks does East think West will take?
Well, one in each suit at best, and don't be surprised to find
a couple of voids in the NS hands.
Furthermore, if any hand will be played for hearts, it will be East.
East may not get a trump trick.  East can't know that South has a stiff.

Looks like NS did a good job, getting to a profitable sac.
If EW did bid on to 5S, would NS find the equally profitable sac in 6C?

Steve Myerson (sgm@sgfb.ssd.ray.com)
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From: bharat@cs.uiuc.edu (R. Bharat Rao)
Subject: Re: Problems from Pasadena
Reply-To: bharat@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:29:24 GMT

sgm@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (Myerson) writes:
>In article <1992Apr6.011329.15094@pencom.com>, eric@pencom.com writes:

>ERIC:  Besides, why don't people think: QJT - AJ7xx - Kxx - Jx
>ERIC:  Is a good hand?

>In article <1992Apr7.144149.24558@dg-rtp.dg.com> hamilton@siberia.rtp.dg.com (Eric Hamilton) writes:

>EH: Because this is matchpoints.
>EH: If you leave 4S for 6D, and it makes, you gain 1/2 MP against the pairs in
>EH: 4S, and do not change your position relative to any other results.

>Oops - I believe that you are forgetting those pairs playing in diamonds.

>Let's say spades makes 4 and diamonds make 6.

Why, or how, can you assume that this is likely, let alone possible?
From your hand, it looks for all the world that spades and diamonds
will make the same number of tricks, or diamonds may well make one
more (they get a diamond ruff against spades); but it is extremely
unlikely spades will make TWO tricks fewer than diamonds.

If diamonds make 12 tricks, I suspect suspect that spades will make
12 or 11 tricks as well.  Further your analysis neglects the ``minor''
possibility that 6D goes down; converting your top to a bottom.

This hand seems to be raising an inordinate amount of controversy.
IMO, this is classical matchpoints -- you are in the right,
higher-scoring suit, and you do not want to jeopardize that.  Take
your 65-70% score for playing in spades; believe me, in the long run
it will pay of richly as opposed to shooting for the 100% scores from
absolute tops.

>Steve Myerson (sgm@sgfb.ssd.ray.com)

Bharat
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