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From: robd@bytex.bytex.com (Robert Driscoll @ws027)
Subject: Help with DECmate II running CP/M
Keywords: DECmate II, CP/M
Organization: Bytex Corporation Westborough, MA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:24:19 GMT

    I have just inherited a DECmate II running CP/M, with an LA50
printer. Included is a Word processor WPS which seems pretty good.
    I have no documentation for CP/M or for the printer. I would be 
greatful if someone could suggest where I could obtain these, or 
where I might start looking. 
    This system can also run MBASIC and MULTIPLAN software 
packages compatible with CP/M. I would like to know if there is
anyplace where I can get this software and associated documentation.

    If anyone has information that may be helpful to my quest please 
send me e-mail.
--
    	    	    	    	    Robert Driscoll, BYTEX Corp.
    	    	    	    	    4 Technology Drive,  Westboro, MA 01581-1760
    	    	    	    	    UUCP: {...}uunet!bytex!robd
    	    	    	    	    Internet:robd@bytex.bytex.com
From: jdkirby@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu (Student Account)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: z80 c cross compilers
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:28:00 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I am also looking for a z80 c compiler. The application I'm
doing requires me to write the program on a PC (IBM) and 
download the program thru the serial port to the Z80 system
I designed. This part works since I wrote a monitor program
and installed it in the ROM previously. The serial transfer
works and I transferred a small assembly language program
thru it a couple days ago. The assembler I use is called ZAS
from Z-world. However, the application I'm working on requires 
a lot of table manipulation and variable tracking. This is a 
thing that a higher level language does very well without the 
programmer having to think much about it. Anyway, an individual
mentioned using Aztec C professional Cross Compiler and I would
like to try this but where do you find it. Another mail message
I got mentioned using BDS-C with a CP/M emulator on my PC.
This is not a bad idea because I have a copy of 80MATE which
supposedly should do this. However I'm about as fluent in CP/M
as most Americans are in Japanese, so this is not practical due
to the time constraints involved. Therefore, does anybody know
where I can find the Aztec software (for cheap) or an alternate
method of doing this without having to reinvent the wheel again?
Additionally, I can also try using a combination of the above methods
by compiling in C to assembly then assembling to machine code
afterwords. The ZAS assembler creates ROMmable code in INtel-hex
format and is very effective. Anyway, Thanks for any help you can provide.

John Kirby
From: joneswd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (William D. Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: transport from ibm
Date: 15 Oct 1992 00:08:18 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: joneswd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (William D. Jones)
NNTP-Posting-Host: o231-11.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

This may seem somewhat trivial to this group, but is there a way to  
transfer information to a commodore computer in cpm mode from an ibm  
compatible disk?  What exactly is kermit?
From: ivie@cc.usu.edu (CP/M lives!)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Re: Will CP/M software work on any CP/M ???
Date: 13 Oct 92 10:01:39 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <9210131319.AA13429@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu>, STDN%MARIST@VM.MARIST.EDU (Dan Newcombe) writes:
> Hi,
>  I have been trying to find some CP/M database software for
> a friend who has a DEC Rainbow 100 computer.  I know that
> there is a HUGE supply of CP/M stuff at Wuarchive.  Would
> I be able to download this stuff, transfer it to a disk
> via a CP/M read/write program and get it to work on the
> DEC with no problems???  As I remember, CP/M was based on the
> 8080 chip and instructions, so it shouldn't be a problem, right?

In most cases, you can run CP/M software on any old CP/M machine. There are
exceptions; software that utilizes the particular I/O ports of a certain
machine, for instance. You will probably have to customize some software to 
talk to the terminal (in this case a VT100). This is always interesting.

The DEC Rainbow is an odd CP/M box. It is primarily a CP/M-86 box with a 
Z80 off to the side running the floppies. The 8086 can ship a CP/M-80
program over to the Z80 and run it. Since the 8086 is running the BDOS, the 
Z80 has lots of extra memory space that it wouldn't normally have. I did have
trouble getting the I/O byte to work properly from the Z80, and this is the
primary reason that I decided to use other machines.

The oddest CP/M box that I know of is the DECmate II, which I am using right
now. The DECmate II is primarily a PDP-8 based word processor with a Z80
coprocessor card. The Z80 does not have direct access to the hardware (the 
BIOS runs on the PDP-8), but since the I/O byte is correctly implemented
that isn't really a problem; I run, for example, the exact same version of
KERMIT on the DECmate II that I use on the Televideo 802.

The most interesting problem that I've had getting CP/M software to run on
the DECmate involved some software that did not know how to put out ASCII
coordinates for the VT100 emulation. I had to patch the startup banner of
that program to include the Switch-to-VT52-mode escape sequence, and then
patch the program to run a VT52.

Roger Ivie
ivie@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
From: robd@bytex.bytex.com (Robert Driscoll @ws027)
Subject: Help with DECmate II / CP/M
Keywords: DECmate, CP/M
Organization: Bytex Corporation Westborough, MA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:29:09 GMT

I recently sent a posting looking for software packages (MBASIC,
Multiplan) that run on CP/M, and documentation.
    I was also looking for general info on CP/M -- any kind of
documentation/utilities.
    I was also inquiring about info for a Digital LA50 printer.

    I accidentilly gave a wrong e-mail addres.
    If anyone can help me plese send e-mail.

    	    	    	Robert Driscoll, BYTEX Corp.
    	    	    	4 Technology Drive,  Westboro, MA 01581-1760
                        UUCP: {...}uunet!bytex!robd
                        Internet:robd@bytex.com



Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
From: selig@clam.med.ge.com (Jim Selig Mfg QIE)
Subject: Big Board II + misc for sale
Reply-To: selig@clam.med.ge.com (Jim Selig Mfg QIE)
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Milwaukee,  WI
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 17:11:36 GMT

I have a "Big Board II" system that's been sitting around and would
like to find it a good home.  This is a 4 MHz single board system with
64K ram, two serial ports, parallel interface, and a breadboard area.
The breadboard area has a couple of parts on it to enable one of the
parallel interfaces to be used as a centronics parallel port.
Also has an STD bus interface.  Mounted in enclosure with two 8"
disk drives and power supply, and includes keyboard, but no monitor.
Works, but has a problem reading inner sectors of the floppies.
You can boot with it as is, and I know the drives themselves are OK,
its the controller that has some sort of problem.  Includes full
schematic, documentation, and rom and bios source code listings
as well as source code on disk - also Turbo Pascal, small-C, and
other stuff.  Also has debugger in rom so you don't need to boot
to troubleshoot.  Asking $75 plus shipping and COD charges (COD about
$5 and it will be shipped in three boxes which may be another $20 or
so).
From: cstewart@npal.rn.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Good Kaypro needs Good Home.
Date: 13 Oct 92 00:59:50 GMT
Organization: PalNet -- Indianapolis, Indiana

 Hi! I beleiive in recycled hardware as well. I have a Kaypro-4, a portables
jobwith built-in monitor, 2 floppy drives, 1 serial and 1 parallel. Original
software, original documentation , and some more.
It is a perfectly funtional beast, especially wd. proceessing. But I need, for
software reasons, to let it go and get a bare-bones XT for the things I need to
do. Can anyyone give the Puma 'Puter a good home, and until I do , does any one
know if a Kermit or other comm. package has VT-!00-er VT-100term emulation for

erer

er ethe Kaypro-$
From: meccl@Skferc.NL (Cees Labrie)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: DECmate III
Date: 15 Oct 92 09:53:46 GMT
Organization: SKF Engineering & Research Centre B.V.

I have just bought a surplus DECmate III, which I believe is a CP/M machine, 
can anyone help me a little here? I'm trying to format floppies, the DEC 
ones format OK, but IBM PC floppies will not. I've tried all different types 
the only difference I can see is a little red arrow sticker on the disk 
sleeve - surely this isn't it ? Or is it ? 

Please send e-mail direct to me and I'll summerize rsn :-)

Regards,

Cees Labrie     email - meccl@Skferc.NL
                Tel     (INT) 31 3402 75957

SKF-Engineering & Research Centre
Nieuwegein 
The Netherlands
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: morrow decision 2 needs vt100 or help
From: kcary@eis.calstate.edu (Kim Studiford Cary)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:10:06 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services
From: cstewart@npal.rn.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Good Kaypro needs Good Home II
Date: 13 Oct 92 01:07:37 GMT
Organization: PalNet -- Indianapolis, Indiana

If you read my previous post, you begin to see my term. problems. the only
Kermit I could find has VT-52 emulation only. The IMP I'm using now is
apparently the same,(but doesn't sayy so.) But even VT-100 won't   meeet my
neeeds for long. So I am looking for an XT.
P.S. I can
From: "Andrew Luck" <p00078@psilink.com>
Subject: Telnet for DG
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:32:26 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

Again, my thanks to all those folks that have been help helpful with the
elementary questions that I've has so far.

I have been supplied various termcap and terminfo files for using
Data General terminals with Unix boxes in the corporation, and they
seem to work just fine.

	viz:	Someone at a Data General terminal connected via serial
		line or terminal switch is logged into a Data General
		miniframe and needs access to a Unixbox. So they 
		"telnet machinename" to the Unixbox, use a "setenv TERM
		terminalname" to tell the Unixbox what type of terminal
		they are, and then go to work.

		Basicallty, the connection method and type between the 
		terminal and the Unixbox becomes immaterial.

We also have in-house terminal emulation software so that all of our PCs can
talk the the Data General via serial connections and/or terminal switches.


What I am still looking for is a solution to the following scenario:

	Someone is on a PC or logged into a Unixbox as a VT100 or other
	non-DG terminal type.  This person needs to work in the Data General
	AOS/VS v7.65 enviornment to do WordPerfect, 20/20, or some other
	application running on the Data General which requires a Data General
	terminal type (D200..D470,etc.).

	GIVEN:	NO CONNECTION EXISTS BETWEEN THE TERMINAL AND THE DATA GENERAL
		***EXCEPT*** A TELNET (TCP/IP) (ethernet) CONNECTION.

I am looking for a TCP/IP-based connection for the Data General which
can communicate/translate to DG-based applications. It would appear 
based upon our research to this point that the limitation is in the telnet
implementation on the Data General (has "hardcopy only" terminal emulation").

Any products you purvey or leads you can give me to break through this
barrier would be very seriously considered.

Thanks for your interest.


Newsgroups: comp.os.aos
From: dlehman@banditos.rtp.dg.com (Donald Lehman)
Subject: Re: Telnet for DG
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 18:34:44 GMT
Reply-To: don@loki.ceo.webo.dg.com
Organization: Data General Corporation, Westboro, Ma.

In article <2927482260.0.p00078@psilink.com> "Andrew Luck" <p00078@psilink.com> writes:
...
>
>What I am still looking for is a solution to the following scenario:
>
>	Someone is on a PC or logged into a Unixbox as a VT100 or other
>	non-DG terminal type.  This person needs to work in the Data General
>	AOS/VS v7.65 enviornment to do WordPerfect, 20/20, or some other
>	application running on the Data General which requires a Data General
>	terminal type (D200..D470,etc.).
>
>	GIVEN:	NO CONNECTION EXISTS BETWEEN THE TERMINAL AND THE DATA GENERAL
>		***EXCEPT*** A TELNET (TCP/IP) (ethernet) CONNECTION.
>

I can think of three ways to accomplish this, unfortunately, none are cheap.

	1)  Upgrade to AOS/VS II and TCP/IP II on the MV.

	2)  Get an ITC board for the MV and run the TCP/IP protocol on it.

	3)  Get (or use) an IAC8 and a CS210 (or something like that)
	    term-server box to connect the IAC8 to the LAN.  You may also
	    get some sort of 3rd party box to connect an async line to   
	    a tcp/ip lan.

I'm pretty sure, but not certain, that 7.65 supports the XLT
characteristic, and if so, this will translate D200 commands to
vt100 equivalents.

Have Fun...

Don Lehman			Standard Disclaimers Apply
Data General Corp.		(I speak for myself only)
don@loki.ceo.webo.dg.com
From: ast@cs.vu.nl (Andy Tanenbaum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.research
Subject: Postdoc position in Amsterdam with Andy Tanenbaum
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 11:53:49 GMT
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
NNTP-Posting-Host: ftp.cse.ucsc.edu
Originator: osr@ftp

I am looking for a recent Ph.D. to join my distributed systems group
for a year as a Postdoc.  Since the project is funded by the European
Community, the candidate must either be a citizen of an EC or EFTA country
or a non-European who is a permanent resident of Europe.  Thus, for example,
a European citizen who is about to graduate from a U.S. university is eligible.

To qualify for this position, you should have research experience in operating
systems, distributed systems or languages, parallel systems or languages, or 
some related area, and have some publications in one (or more) of these areas.
Systems people are strongly encouraged to apply.  Theorists need not bother: 
The European Community already has a glut of butter, milk, wine, and theorems.

Our research centers around the Amoeba distributed operating system.  For a
brief introduction, see the Dec. 1990 Communications of the ACM or the May
1990 IEEE Computer Magazine.  To get a large collection of Amoeba papers
and manuals, FTP to ftp.cs.vu.nl (192.31.231.42) or midgard.ucsc.edu
((128.114.14.6) and look in the amoeba or pub/amoeba directory.

% Please use ftp.cse.ucsc.edu (128.114.134.19) instead of midgard --DL

Interested parties should send me a full curriculum vitae, including the 
following:

  - Name:
  - Home and work addresses and phone numbers:
  - Email and FAX addresses:
  - Age/Marital status/children:
  - B.S.: institution, date, major
  - M.S.: institution, date, major, thesis title, supervisor's name
  - Ph.D: institution, date, major, thesis title, supervisor's name
  - Computer systems/languages you know well:
  - Three professional references (name, phone #, email address):
  - Proposed starting date (position is probably open starting Jan. 1, 1993)
  - Current position, employer, and duties:
  - Previous work history:
  - Publication list:
  - A short summary of your current research interests:

Please send either a troff -ms file, or flat ASCII text or PostScript.

The EC has set a very tight deadline.  The application deadline is Oct 31,
but I would appreciate applications as soon as possible.

Andy Tanenbaum (ast@cs.vu.nl)
From: darrell@cse.ucsc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.research
Subject: IEEE TCOS newsletter posted
Date: 7 Oct 1992 18:34:21 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ftp.cse.ucsc.edu
Originator: osr@ftp


The IEEE TCOS newsletter (v. 6, n. 1) has been posted to ieee.tcos.
You can also get a copy using anonymous FTP to ftp.cse.ucsc.edu:/pub/tcos/v6n1

If your site does not received the ieee.* newsgroups, please contact
your system administrator and ask for a feed.

DL
From: J.P.Knight@lut.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.os.research
Subject: QUESTION: RPC usage in current Distributed Systems
Date: 10 Oct 1992 05:27:43 GMT
Organization: Dept of Comp. Studies, Loughborough University of Tech., UK.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ftp.cse.ucsc.edu
Originator: osr@ftp

Hello,

I'm currently working on my PhD in the area of support that can be given
to distributed systems by high speed networks.  At the moment I'm
fiddling around with RPC paradigms, and I've a couple of questions to
pose to anyone who has used or developed a distributed system that uses
RPC type calls:

1) How often on average would an application make an RPC call?

2) What is the min/average/max number of parameters and results that are
passed between the calling stub and the remote process in your systems

I realise that this is a bit of a tricky question to answer based on
different application mixes, etc, etc, but I'm just trying to get some
feel for what people expect of their RPC subsystems.

Many thanks in advance,

Jon

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Jon P. Knight (Postgrad, Subwarden & Sys Admin).  Tel:(+44) (0)509 222298
Internet: J.P.Knight@lut.ac.uk Snail: CS Dept, LUT, Leics., UK. LE11 3TU.
* I can't even talk to you without the aid of chemicals or lies. - Pele *
From: rgp@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Ramon Pantin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.research
Subject: Re: Plan 9
Date: 9 Oct 1992 04:12:48 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers, Micro-Products Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: ftp.cse.ucsc.edu
Originator: osr@ftp


In article <1aj09jINN5s4@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> spitzak@gree.Eng.Sun.COM (Bill Spitzak) writes:
>So many people mailed me requesting that I forward to them whatever I
>found out about Plan 9 that I decided to post it here.  However, I
>discovered very little:
>...
>From: rob@research.att.com  << i.e. Rob Pike >>
>
>plan 9 is released and available to universities.  the manual is
>released and in principle available to anyone, but no distribution
>mechanism is in place so it's at the moment still unobtainable except
>by special request.  (no, you can't have it: we are not going to send
>any out until we have a sensible mechanism in place.)
>
>-rob

How long will it take for the documentation to become available thru
an ftp archive? If you don't want research.att.com to get flooded with
ftp connections, why don't you get one of your beta test sites to provide
the ftp archival resources?

Could someone close to Plan 9:
	Elaborate on the two features that have been patented?

	How does the system behave when a fileserver fails?
	I know they "never" fail, because the code is "simple"
	and hence probably correct (ha!), but lets just assume that
	one of your fileservers has a hardware glitch that causes
	it to crash.  What happens to the clients of the fileserver?

	Describe what is it that makes Plan 9 a distributed system
	system, instead of several machines running a much simpler/
	cleaner version of a UNIX like operating system.  Some people
	used to call UNIX + RFS = Distributed UNIX.  Do you call a bunch
	of UNIX machines sharing filesystems a "distributed system" ?

	What types of distributed applications are run on a daily
	basis on your Plan 9 system?  Would you describe what are
	the features in Plan 9 that aid in the writting of those
	applications?  I do understand that simplicity and reliability
	are steps in the right direction, I am curious about other
	facilities that explicitly aid in the construction of distributed
	applications, i.e. applications where processes on different
	machines actively cooperate in an attempt to do some usefull
	work.  Please don't tell me that the moral equivalent of
	and "rlogin" command (is it "cpu"?) is a distributed application.

All the things that I have read about Plan 9 seem pretty good, I wish
that more information was made available.  Details about Plan 9 seem
to be the opposite of "vaporware", we know it exists, we know that
it must be good because it is the second attempt from the folks that
brought us UNIX, the problem is that we can't even read the man pages
for it because "we can't have it".  What does it take for a company to
get a source license for it?

Are USL and Bell Labs so far apart that Plan 9 is not even being considered
as a foundation for bringing UNIX back to its original simplicity?  As if
that was possible anymore.

Ramon Pantin
(my opinions are not related or represent in any way my employer)
From: rob@research.att.com (Rob Pike)
Newsgroups: comp.os.research
Subject: Plan 9 Manual now available by FTP
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:27:55 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ
NNTP-Posting-Host: ftp.cse.ucsc.edu
Originator: osr@ftp

The Programmer's Manual and supporting documentation for
Plan 9 from Bell Labs is now available by anonymous FTP
from research.att.com, directory dist/plan9man.

Rob Pike
rob@research.att.com
From: curtis@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Curtis Yarvin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.research
Subject: looking for citations
Date: 11 Oct 1992 22:26:50 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley CS Dept.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ftp.cse.ucsc.edu
Originator: osr@ftp

I'm looking for pointers to any work involving the idea
of "hiding" unprotected pages in a very large virtual
address space.

Anything germane or related will be appreciated.

Thanks.

Curtis Yarvin
curtis@cs.berkeley.edu
From: grunwald@mumble.cs.colorado.edu (Dirk Grunwald)
Newsgroups: comp.os.research
Subject: Re: operating systems research hosed?? (Re: WINDOWS/NT)
Date: 11 Oct 1992 22:27:21 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
NNTP-Posting-Host: ftp.cse.ucsc.edu
Originator: osr@ftp

>>>>> On 3 Oct 1992 02:26:30 GMT, fouts@bozeman.hpl.hp.com (Martin Fouts) said:
MF> and doesn't have to integrate all of the other facilities.  Research
MF> is no less "real" than development it's just allowed to concentrate on
MF> one problem at a time.
--

Allowed? Forced is more like it, at least in academic environments.
Tenure review committees don't care if a log-structured file system
has been tweaked to be efficient. They care more about the paper
count, PhD production and the impact on the world (i.e. is the LFS
being used in the real world).

Thus, writing `man' pages for things is not reward in a university
environment (nor should it be); the Berkeley CSRG is a notable
exception, but the hackers weren't shooting for tenure.
From: Don Box <dbox@net4.ICS.UCI.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.os.research
Subject: CORBA references
Date: 13 Oct 92 00:25:42 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ftp.cse.ucsc.edu
Originator: osr@ftp

I'm fishing around for references on CORBA (or other distributed
object management systems).  ftp-able references are always best.  Can
someone mail me a bibliography?

Thanks in advance,
DB