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From: lf@barkley.berkeley.edu (LexicographicalFiend)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Catherine a sexy name?
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:54:02
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In-reply-to: erisande@silver.ucs.indiana.edu's message of Fri, 31 Jul 1992 01:09:16 GMT

Erin reveals:
>My parents adore Catcherine,
                  ^^^^^^^^^^
Yup, and you've probably taken her to see "A League Of Their Own" once
too often.  8-)

>and they know the feelings I have told you here.

That's kOOl.  When I first told my parents about Amelia, they quite
promptly said, "You know, you really should concentrate on your
studies now.  Your studies are your first priority -- you'll have more
than enough time to pursue relationships later."

I don't mean to sound bitter, but when this comes from a couple whose
own relationship looks (to their own kids) to have become merely
*mundane*, I tend to take it with a heaped tablespoon of salt.

Of course, like the "filial eldest son" that I am, I tried to obey
them.  I tried so hard that now, even when I'm nearing the end of my
academic career, I still can't do anything more than *fantasize* about
relationships.  (Yeah BigBro, I chickened out -- sorry you got up
early for nothing...)

>The only person who doesn't know is Catherine.  THIS is the hard part
>for me.

Whether you should tell her about it?  I should be the last person
you'd listen to, but if you think it's worth thinking about, here's my
opinion: Go with your heart.  I didn't, and though I might have spared
myself some spectacular CrashBurns, I've also psyched myself to the
point where I can't even see myself having a RealRelationship without
breaking out in a mental ColdSweat.

This "condition" of mine doesn't stop me from thinking about other
people's relationships, though, the ol' PhysicianHealThyself spiel
notwithstanding...

>>Of course, in the heat of the moment (ooooh! 8-), it's often difficult
>>to distinguish between a wish and a firm intention...but them's the
>>breaks.  (Is it just me, or does everyone think I'm in the running for
>>MostObscureCommentatorOfTheYear? 8-)

>Yeah, I guess you are right about the heart of the moment.
                                       ^^^^^
Well if you're gonna be so fickle about your feelings...8-} 8-|

>But I don't think that is it.  I am always thinking about it with her.
>There is no off time for my brain from those thoughts.

Kinda like this, eh?

        Waiting for a star to fall
        And carry your heart into my arms
        That's where you belong
        In my arms baby, yeah
		- "Waiting For A Star To Fall", Boy Meets Girl

*HUGS*

>>>Julie (Mom)
>>        ^^^
>>Whose? ;-)
>Mine.  ;)

Hey Jules, I thought you said you din't want any more kids!  8-}

Lexi(...)Fiend
From: lf@barkley.berkeley.edu (LexicographicalFiend)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: I Am Still Around :)
Date: 26 Jul 92 22:15:20
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
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In-reply-to: rip@sequent.com's message of Mon, 27 Jul 92 00:02:31 GMT

Rip asserts:
>Deb pacifies:
>>Please gentleman... Stop the bickering I was just paying a visit :)
>But that is what we do best!

Eh?  I thought we hassle Sisters best!  8-)

>Besides, that's what brothers do....

Only if you're gonna be petty about things...8-)

>>Okay okay if I missed that much I will stay *HUG* am I welcome ? :)
>Most indupid... instupi..... endubid... yeah sure are!  We did miss
>ya!

Don't mind Bro, he's got a speech impedimendicant...

>>I have been so busy that I wish I had more time but this time I am going
>>to make time for all you special people.. :)
>You hear that LF?  She thinks we are special! :-)

But of *course* we are!!  We're the BattlingBros!!  8-)

>Especially *what* I don't know....

I don't even *want* to think about the possibilities you're
entertaining in your head...*especially* if BigBertha's one of them.

Lexi(PenalizedSubstantiallyForEarlyWithdrawal)Fiend
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: erisande@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Kryst the Philosopher)
Subject: Re: lost & lonely
Organization: Quitters Inc.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 08:00:15 GMT

velour@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michelle Wiener)

>especially in grade school when everyone called me "Mitch" except the boy I
>had a tremendous crush on who always called me Michelle... *sigh*  I loved him
>for that.

	Sorry.  I didn't know you cared.  I wouldn't have stopped if I
would have known.  ;)  [Hysterical Laughter]  I need a drink.
From: lf@barkley.berkeley.edu (LexicographicalFiend)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: To Catherine:  I noticed ...
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:35:30
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In-reply-to: jmalone@silver.ucs.indiana.edu's message of 28 Jul 92 19:37:59 GMT

Jules whispers:
>*psssst*  LF, I get all the free SensualMassages I want just by asking.  Don't
>tell anyone.  I don't want to have to fight off hundreds of ladies who would
>be seeking my man.

Suit yourself.  Like I said, I'm not the boss of that particular
outfit, so I don't get anything outa this anyways.  Not even free
feels.  8-( 8-)

>*contented smile*

So *that's* where all the cream went!  8-)

Lexi(Feline-citous,Meow-ltingInTheHeat,ButNotCat-strated)Fiend
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: code@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu ( )
Subject: post-test
Organization: base-one, mars
Distribution: world,australia
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 10:56:09 GMT

just testing..  -justy
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: erisande@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Kryst the Philosopher)
Subject: Re: Hello (turn your radio on ...)
Organization: Quitters Inc.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:03:00 GMT

jmalone@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Julie Malone)
>erisande@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Kryst the Philosopher) shares: 
>>kimmyd@bnr.ca (Kimmy Posey P920)
>>>Hi y'all!
>>
>Now, Erin, we had lunch twice if I remember correctly.  And in fact, I met
>you BEFORE Steven.  It was just the fact that you are 12 years younger than
>me, have a girlfriend, and didn't sweep me off my feet like Steven
>did.  That's all....

	I didn't sweep you off your feet?!  Ack!  Should I remind you
of the waitress we about killed?  And what about her boyfriend's
anguish?!  FINE!  I will just leave and get the Hell out of your life!
BWahahahaha!

>>and Lis as my little kitty  (She's a doll!).  Welcome to the wonderful
>>world, and I hope you have a good time and learn about yourself and
>>others.  If you mess wid my Lis, I will have to go into hero mode
>>again, and you wouldn't want dat!			Erin -
>
>He means it Kimmy. *snarl*

	Yeah, I mean it all right...  Lis IS a cute one...  ;)
From: lf@barkley.berkeley.edu (LexicographicalFiend)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Hi all!  Did anyone notice I was gone?
Date: 27 Jul 92 09:15:33
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In-reply-to: jturner@lonestar.utsa.edu's message of 27 Jul 92 06:02:55 GMT

JT fesses up:
>Okay, okay, I'll talk! (gee, that was too easy *grin*)
>everybody take a DEEP breath! ...

< B R E A T H >

>[LongNIntriguingStory deleted]

Can I let my breath out now?  8-)

>So now what do I do?

Have fun, what else?  8-)

       HHHHH     HHHHH     UUUUU     UUUUU       GGGGGGGGGGG
       H...H     H...H     U...U     U...U      G...........G
       H...H     H...H     U...U     U...U     G....GGGGG....G
       H...H     H...H     U...U     U...U     G...G     GGGGG
       H...HHHHHHH...H     U...U     U...U     G...G
       H.............H     U...U     U...U     G...G   GGGGGGG
       H...HHHHHHH...H     U...U     U...U     G...G   GGG...G
       H...H     H...H     U...U     U...U     G...G     G...G
       H...H     H...H     U....UUUUU....U     G....GGGGG....G
       H...H     H...H      U...........U       G...........G
       HHHHH     HHHHH       UUUUUUUUUUU         GGGGGGGGGGG

Lexi(RemindsMeOfWhatILikeAboutARCland)Fiend
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: erisande@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Kryst the Philosopher)
Subject: Re: Touching
Organization: Quitters Inc.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 05:40:35 GMT

pm3_norr@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (Paul Norris)
>erin sulks:
>}lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique)
>}	Says to LF
>}
>}>>			       *SMOOCH*
>}
>}	I feel so unloved now...  *Cry*
>
>Hey Erin, cheer up.  I know the one thing guaranteed to take your mind
>off things... 
>
>(psst, ready with that Acme Flan-o-matic boys and girls?)

	AYYYGH!  Not that!  Bwah!  [Erin does a fancy roll to get away
from the crowd, only to end up in Julie's arms.]  Oooo  Baby!
*Smooch*  [Erin rolls again, ending up by Steven's feet.]  :)  Ooops.
Sorry, she was too irresistable!  [He ducks in the secondary room, and
finds Lis, quickly (yet lovingly) he runs his hands through her hair
hoping for a purr...  And last but not least, Erin jumps through the
air, lands on a pillow, and ends up exactly where he started.]  Hey.
It wasn't a wasted effort, now...  was it?
From: lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: ARC Theme Song - LF
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:31:22 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


I was going thru my files today and found the ARC Theme
Song that Adrian/LexiFiend wrote and posted back in
January 1992 (also inspired by the first ARC Chat).  Here it is.


____________________________________________

( I = Adrian/LF )

By popular request (OK, only Fluffy asked for it, but what the heck),
I give you now.....

		   The Alt.Romance.Chat Theme Song
		   ===============================
		   (Inspired by the crew of A.R.C)
	      (Sung to the tune of "Gilligan's Island")

	Just sit right back and you'll hear a tail
	  A tail of a bunny, hip
	When chocolate fudge's spread over fems
	  He'll jump in, lick and nip...he'll jump in, lick and nip.
	[female giggle]

	The Blade was a mighty stud [Chorus shouts: OH MAN!]
	  His fork was straight and sure
	Five women he assailed one day
	  They are no longer pure...they are no longer pure
	[Chorus goes: OOOOOOOOH!]

	GOGIL was a mighty Leather God
	  His whip could humans toss
	When LexiFiend stepped on his turf
	  He showed'im who was boss...he showed'im who was boss
	[OUCH!]

	And now let's meet all the other souls, the crew of A.R.C.
	There's Steamin' Steve,
	  CowPatti too,
	BluePanther, Lis,
	  And Michelle,
	BDC drieuxs,
	  CatWoman, Deb, Ell[eo]n, Rip
	Here on A.R.C. Isle!!!!

[Apologies to those whose names don't appear -- your contributions too
are significant, but I'm hard-pressed to fit your monikers into the
rhythm of the song.  Perhaps someone else could start an Alternative
A.R.C. Theme Song.]

LexicographicalFiend ("A *world tour*?  You're too kind!" 8-)

__________________________________________

           ** Hugs and Smiles to All **

Lis, The Good Romantic Witch
President of the Romantic Fire Association
Like a Diamond, Her Life has Many Facets

p.s.  Heaven is a *Hug* and a *Smile*
      the Joy of Music and the Beauty of Silence
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: swalter@nyx.cs.du.edu (DreamWeaver)
Subject: Re: Hello (turn your radio on ...)
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 11:04:45 GMT


Lis comments:

> Your dream is very real.  I'm looking forward to the rest 
> of it.

More real than you realize, sweet Lis.  This has been a week of Femme-ja
Vu for me (It's a good thing she doesn't know a thing about usenet ... or
internet for that matter ... I don't know what I'd do if I knew I was
being read by ... well anyway ...)

This dream is real antsy to finish ... I'll probably complete it this
weekend.

-DreamWeaver
 "... I woke up to the sound of pourin' rain ..."
From: lf@barkley.berkeley.edu (LexicographicalFiend)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: To Catherine:  I noticed ...
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:08:25
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In-reply-to: jmalone@silver.ucs.indiana.edu's message of 28 Jul 92 18:43:50 GMT

Jules waves 'em HornyHunks off:
>*Julie tells the guys in the white jackets that she won't be needing their
>services....*

[The nearest HornyHunkInWhite replies:] Oh.  Well, if you're sure you
wouldn't want to experience a free SensualMassage...we're promoting
our recently opened BodaciousBodySalon, you see.  Anyways, we hope
you'll patronize our humble establishment soon...<wink>

Lexi(IWishIWereBossOf*That*Outfit)Fiend
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com (PuterDude)
Subject: Re: Peanut butter
Organization: None, today. Thank you.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:50:46 GMT

 swalter@nyx.cs.du.edu (DreamWeaver) sticks to the roof of his mouth...

>If you awoke one fine morning to find yourself in a strange apartment ...
>in a strange bed ... with a stranger ... and ...
>
> ... you found peanut butter behind your ear ...
	and in other places...
> ... would that bother you?

Tell me more about the "stranger". Is she a parent? 'Cause if she was, 
we all know that


Choosy mothers choose Jif!

I guess it's better than havin' a boy in green tights (Peter Pan)
behind me ear. Although, Tinkerbell is a different story. It'd be just
like gettin' dusted by Lis. Except Tink is smaller. And Lisa is 
prettier. 

Then there is Shedd's. But we all know that they're just a country crock!

> (Available in Creamy Smooth and Crunchy)

Available in ointment or suppositories.  (GROAN)

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From: velour@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michelle Wiener)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Hi all! Did anyone notice I was gone?
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:49:45 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <1992Jul28.235337.11201@tessi.com> george@tessi.com (George Mitchell) writes:
>Sarek@world.std.com (Garrett Fitzgerald) writes:
>>Great story, JT. :-) Good thing you opened your mouth. :-) I was just
>>curious--this makes three admitted Catholics on the group. (Well, it
>>would if I had ever mentioned that I was, too. :-) ) Is anyone else?
>
>I'm a former Catholic, but while I was attending M.I.T. I pretty
>much gave up on organized religion, and now I am agnostic.

I was Catholic in a former life.


Michelle
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com (PuterDude)
Subject: Re: Hi all! Did anyone notice I was gone?
Organization: None, today. Thank you.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:40:29 GMT

>>>Great story, JT. :-) Good thing you opened your mouth. :-) I was just
>>>curious--this makes three admitted Catholics on the group. (Well, it
>>>would if I had ever mentioned that I was, too. :-) ) Is anyone else?
>>
>>I'm a former Catholic, but while I was attending M.I.T. I pretty
>>much gave up on organized religion, and now I am agnostic.
>
>I was Catholic in a former life.

And to take it just a weeeeee bit farther....

I was a former Catholic in a former life.  :)

Wanta find out who is Cath true and true? Invite them over for
a Friday barbie of burgers and dogs. Before i get too darn close
to havin' to post this on alt.religion, how someone can tell ME 
that *I* am goin' down under  (sorry Australia) for eatin' meat
on Fridays is beyond me!  Now, if they would change this to
"Don't wear plaid on Thurdays!" I'd go back to church.  :)

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From: 9999cs02@uhdvx3 (Tina Marie!)
Subject: Re: for julie
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41A   
Organization: University of Houston-Downtown
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:43:00 GMT

(Jason Winters) writes...
> 
>>jmalone@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Julie Malone) orratates:
>>>jeanie@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (jean.c.ward) shares: 
>>>Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.  I can see why you do. :-)  And I just LOVE that song!
>>
>>Me too.  As a matter of fact, I'll be walking down the isle (or in our case
>>the path in the woods) to that song.  When it finishes, I will be standing
>>in front of my very handsome fiance - and moments later, I will be his
>>wife.  Cool, huh?
> 
> 
>Now wait a minute!!  Just what kind of deal have you gotten yourself
>into???  First, he's _your_ fiance;  then you're _his_ wife?  Shouldn't
>that be "and moments later, he's my husband"? 
> 
>  Gotta keep things in perspective, ya know...  ;)
> 
> 
>Another lurker trips and falls out of his closet...
> 
>Jason

	Hi!!!! Welcome aboard!!!  Glad to have you!!!

	*Welcoming Hugs*

	Tina Marie

BTW - Somebody want to bring me up to date on what's happening here??? Due
to TONS of work, and shopping for a car, I've been gone for a few weeks...
From: pm3_norr@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (Paul Norris)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Vacation spots
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:12:31 GMT
Organization: Bristol Polytechnic, England


}pm3_norr@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (Paul Norris) writes:
}>
}>Oh, and if it's going to be in the next couple of weeks:  Bristol 
}>International Balloon Festival - August 7th - 9th.  Wonderful views
}>from my flat, anyone in the area welcome

Clare bemoans:
}I wanna go, I wanna go. Last year most of the festival was blown away
}(sorry) but we did get to see >100 balloons lift off on sunday night.
}Very beautiful.

Well, come on over then!    *knowing grin*

You're quite welcome to stay.

Paul
-- 
Nothing takes the taste out of peanut butter quite like unrequited love.
                                            --  Charlie Brown
From: dch@rodan.UU.NET (Dan C. Horner)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Fill-In-The-Blank Impaired
Date: 27 Jul 1992 08:36:09 -0400
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

>'Chelle writes:
>>Corky (the sweet, naive, intelligence-impaired female): Miller, I have
>Intelligence Impaired....I like that.....(In the immortal thoughts of
>Blade..."As long as she's female.....)
>
>No dummies.  I like the phrase Intelligence Impaired.  Another one of
>my favorites:
>Organizationally Impaired - messy people
>
>BDC(hucklingOverIntelligenceImpaired)

Odd the things you find when you just stop by for a moment...

And on the subject of women, I would just like to say:

Each woman is perfect in her own way, and sometimes you have
to drink a LOT of swill to find the drink that's right for you!

(Ladies in VI, please do a :%s/woman/man/g)

Ever the irrepressible...

		Blade
From: lf@barkley.berkeley.edu (LexicographicalFiend)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: On Chivalry: RELAX!
Date: 27 Jul 92 09:25:59
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In-reply-to: kkwwkk@mixcom.com's message of 27 Jul 92 11:39:49 GMT

BDC assures:
>Heck you didn't offend me...Just gave me an excuse to post...Besides
>it got LexF going, but wonders if he/she(?) (which are we today,
>Lex or Flaura??), ever needs someone to prod him to post his
>positively pendantic pundits......

Alas, thanks to the suddenly increased workload these days (and 4
weeks before I disappear...sheesh!), it takes ThatSpecialPost to set
me off on a RampagingRoadtrip of Puns and PissPoorPoetry.  I dunno how
much longer I can keep it up (no, HornyHunks, not *that* it!), and I
might disappear before my time...hmmmmmm...

>Actually, I'm pretty sure that no of the ladies would have selected
>a champions, they seem to fend for the themselves very well.

Oh, I dunno...I've bested 'em pretty frequently, methinks.  8-P 8-)

>Actually it is good to stir the pot sometimes.....

Before the PB thickens into an IndestructibleLump?  8-)

Lexi(PBMax--WeMeanPusBoils)Fiend
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: Michel Goudeseune <marcelg@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Hello!
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:19:23 GMT

smccoy@dw3f.ess.harris.com (Scott McCoy) writes:
>
>I *did* have one observation on "A piece of my past":  some advice was
>given to me, which I will share.  After a major part of my life (and 
>heart) departed, I made the comment to an old friend and confidante 
>that I would never love another woman like that again.  To which my 
>confidante replied that was true!  (Needless to say, that got my 
>attention!)  She told me love is never the same: you change, your 
>next lover is different, and unless love is allowed to be different, 
>you'll spend a long time looking for something that can never be again.

Now here's a post I'm suprised to be making.  There was actually a Star Trek:
The Next Generation episode that included the same advice.  I believe that the
person in your position was Wesley, and that his love wasn't actually human,
but had assumed a human form.  I have no idea who was giving the advice.  And
I haven't watched ST:TNG in over a year.  Weird.

>
>Well, I must close now, and head home.  I'm in the mood to put on an
>Ivan Lins CD and open a bottle of wine.  Maybe I'll try and face the 
>question:  after a seven year journey to further my career, is there 
>nothing more?

Three words to keep in mind here: "Work is Play".  If you're not having fun
doing your current job, you're in the wrong job.  In other words, it's not
worth it to work for 50 weeks of the year so that you can afford (financially)
to have fun for the remaining 2 weeks.

>
>If I come up with any answers, I'll let you know. ;-)
>
>Scott.


As someone else also said, please do.  Hmm, perhaps you should change that
'if' to a 'when'.  We're all continually learning.


And, finally, welcome to ARC!  I haven't posted much here yet, but it's a fun
place to hang out.  I've also come up with what I consider a very true quote
for my .sig .  Enjoy...

 Michel Goudeseune                       marcelg@zooid.guild.org
         Love yourself - or nobody else can.  -- Madonna
From: t923335@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (IronEagle )
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: anyone notice me yet?
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:47:47 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

ccolling@nyx.cs.du.edu (Lady Firebird) writes:

>this is only my third article in two days...
>hello?

Hi there!!   Yes, I have noticed you sneaking around there!

Welcome to ARC!!

*HUGS*

-IE!

>--
>Catherine G. Collingwood, aka Lady Firebird       NCSSM '92
>catherine@lambada.oit.unc.edu  -or-  ccolling@nyx.cs.du.edu
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>"Imagination is only intelligence having fun."  --Anon.
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