HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: king@rtsg.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist)
Subject: Re: The use of ^L
Reply-To: king@rtsg.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:06:41 GMT

chandan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Ikramuddin Ahmed) publicly declared:
>But this time I've come up with a real question: why did the developers
>of the USENET software for the UNIX system name the command for posting
>an article *Pnews* instead of plain and simple pnews, or even more
>simply pn?  Even postnews would have been so much user-friendlier! Just
>to prevent newusers from finding out about how to post items, and make
>them be content with reading only until they find out, I guess. A funny
>and a rather convoluted way to limit contributions, I would say.

I can't give you a definitive answer for why they used a capital-P, but
I rather doubt it was anything sneaky like preventing new users from
posting until they found the shift key.  Especially when you consider
that most news reading software will also allow you to post without you
ever having to know that Pnews exists!  I've used Pnews directly maybe
once in the three years I've been on Usenet.  So much easier just to
hit "f" or "F" from within (t)rn...

Then again, maybe they *did* want to require that newbies find the
shift key first.  COULD BE THE CREATORS OF PNEWS GOT TIRED OF BEING
YELLED AT BY PEOPLE WHO *COULDN'T* FIND IT!  :-)

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Never let anyone know you're good at something you     |      Steven King
dislike.  You'll find yourself doing it forever.       |   Motorola Cellular
                                                       |   king@rtsg.mot.com
From: tom.rollins@f40.n109.z1.fidonet.org (tom rollins)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Repeater for "sci.crypt"
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:30:00 -0500

I am unable to get the newsgroup "sci.crypt".

I have heard that there are Repeaters for some newsgroups.

A Repeater, I belive, is an address/site which crosses the
bridge between newsgroups and mailing lists.

i.e., News, for this newsgroup, arriving at the site will be
send out via E-mail to those people who requested this
service.

Does anyone know a list of sites providing this kind of service, Or know of a
site providing this service for the newsgroup "sci.crypt" ?

Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: I'm a Moron, Part Two
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 17:32:03 GMT

Spaf's "USENET Software: History and Sources" should be what you're
looking for.  Check again in news.announce.newusers.  If it's expired
there, send me e-mail and I'll send you the document in question.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "You mean there are TWO of you, Pierce?
\  / twpierce@amherst.edu      /  God help us all."
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /   -- Major Charles Emerson Winchester III
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: root@ufps8.unifr.ch (Operator)
Subject: Re: A simple tar question...
Keywords: tar
Organization: University of Fribourg - CH
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:03:32 GMT

In article <yuan1.711723833@husc9>, yuan1@husc9.harvard.edu (Nina Yuan) writes:
|> I have a very simple tar question that I can't seem to find the answer to;
|> how do I un-tar a file, say test.tar, that exists in my account, and not
|> on a tape?  I know the x switch specifies extraction, but I can't seem to
|> force it not to look at an external device.
|> 
|> Feel free to email to save bandwith.  Thanks!
|> -nhy
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> Nina H. Yuan                               "It's a miracle that curiosity
|> nina@panix.com                              survives formal education."
|> yuan1@husc.harvard.edu                                  - Albert Einstein

Try using   ,  tar xvf ./test.tar  , option f specifies the device file.
-- 
Bernard Waeber
UNIX system administrator
waeber@cfruni52.bitnet
From: MWORKMAN@PURCCVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: How can one add a newsgroup to a given node?
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:26:06 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

I have seen the newsgroups, rec.games.frp.****, mentioned by other netnews
users.  How can I add these groups to my machine (node = vm)?

M.workman
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: ptmcinti@indyvax.iupui.edu
Subject: extraction
Organization: Indiana University
Date: 26 Jul 92 09:08:54 -0500

Hello all...I've run into a bit of a dilemma for which I hope to get some
advice.  I'm trying to create a script file for my tcom program on my ms-dos 
machine, wherein the program automatically logs into USENET from my 
VMS account, and extracts unread messages to a file for dload or printing.  
The problem I'm having is that the extract command requires an item range 
as a parameter.  Is there anyway to extract ALL unseen messages without having 
to specifiy an item range...this would make the script much smoother.  
Could I do this from VMS?  Thanks for any help.  
ptmcinti@ivax.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: creps@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Steve Creps)
Subject: Re: Is there a way to utilize nntp w/ a dos based machine?
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: news
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 02:24:33 GMT

In article <746@harper.UUCP> rmartine@harper.UUCP (Rick Martinez) writes:
>If there is, I would like to do it.  I've plenty of space (for about 40 - 50
>different groups) to do it.
>
>All I need is a number and software.

   Well, it's not really that simple, but it can be done.  First of all,
you need to be connected to a host on the Internet, unless you can dial
up to one using SLIP (I assume you'll need to do this, being a UUCP site).
This is because NNTP is a TCP/IP protocol.  You'll also need some kind of
software library that can at least emulate TCP/IP calls (SLIP may give you
all of this, but I've never used it).  This package will likely also need
special device drivers.

   You may be able to use UUCP instead of NNTP, but I'm not very familiar
with the details of news via UUCP.

   Next you may need to rewrite one of the NNTP modules to work with the
particular TCP/IP package you're using.  I got it to work at our site on
a PC, and I had to make some significant changes (but only to this one
module, clientlib.c).  We have FTP Software's TCP/IP development library,
which is what I used (surprise!) to get the NNTP client library to work
for us.  Our PCs have Ethernet cards, though; so your mileage may vary,
as they say.

   Basically, it depends very much on your particular configuration.  Good
luck.

   P.S. I mailed my diffs to the author of the NNTP stuff, so they (or
somebody's else that do the same thing) should appear in a future release.

-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Steve Creps, Program for Distributed Computing
(Indiana) University Computing Services
creps@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: ca566@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Holloway)
Subject: Re: Public Access Site/BBS in Baltimore Area Wanted
Reply-To: ca566@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Holloway)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 02:05:21 GMT


In a previous article, jbaker@amethyst.bucknell.edu (BAKER JASON DOUGLAS) says:

>
>I really don't know where to post this, but here goes:
>
>I am looking for a site in the Baltimore-Washington area that I
>can send e-mail, and read news (usenet, I presume).  I have heard
>of public access sites and BBS's with uucp/news capabilities.  If
>anyone knows of some public access sites or other relevant
>information, PLEASE send me e-mail.  Thank you very much.
>
>Jason
>jbaker@amethyst.bucknell.edu
>

Sorry, don't know of anything in the Baltimore area but I'm 
assuming that you have access to a computer with the telnet 
protocol.  Try telneting to freenet-in-a.cwru.edu.  The "a" can 
be replaced by "b" or "c" for alternate computers.  This is the 
Cleveland Freenet service that offers a wide range of goodies, 
including a good Usenet BBS.  It's all menu prompts so just log 
on as a visitor, copy the registration form and send it in.  
Within 2 to 3 weeks your account is waiting for you.  It also 
has links to at least two other public access E-mail and BBS 
services.  The modem number is: 216 368-3888 (8n1).  It has 
other things like library databases and BBS's that are of more 
interest to the locals.  
-- 
E-mail: mhollowa@ccmail.sunysb.edu (mail to freenet is forwarded)
phone:  (516)444-3612
I would claim to speak for my university but no one is likely to
believe it.
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: moore@iastate.edu (Brian J Moore)
Subject: Dow Jones Retrieval Service
Summary: Dow Jones Retrieval Service
Keywords: Dow Jones
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:10:30 GMT

Any one know the best way to access the Dow Jones Retrieval Service?  Is
there any way to access it on the net? etc?

Thanks,
Brian

-- 
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  /                                  /                                    /
 /  Brian J. Moore                  /                  moore@iastate.edu /
/__________________________________/____________________________________/
From: atrw0176@cellar.org (Atrw93)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Seeking "attmail" access
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:48:36 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system


Hi,

Would appreciate any advice on getting direct access to "attmail"

from Usenet. Any ideas or thoughts?

Again thanks for your help.

ATRW93

ATRW93                     | atrw0176%cellar@tredysvr.tredydev.com
                           | atrw0176@cellar.org
From: rik@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Richard Beckett)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: HELP !!
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:51:08 GMT
Reply-To: rik@hplb.hpl.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Labs, Bristol, UK




	Hi Chaps,

		I have access to this computer only when at work, and can 
	only do this sort of thing after I have finished for the day.

	I want to make contributions to newsgroups and think that I've found
	my way around the program called xrn, but any pointers with that will
	gratefully received.

	The main problem that I am having is with mailing people directly
	and them mailing me directly.

	1.  How do I read any mail thet may have been sent to me only ?

	2.  How do I go about responding to that mail ?
 	

	PLEASE RESPOND BY POSTING YOUR REPLY TO THIS MAILBOX, because
	otherwise I won't know how to access it.


	THANX,



		RIK
From: ceg@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Chris Galas)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Still receive a newsgroup if your site does not have it?
Date: 26 Jul 92 03:41:49 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

How can on receive a newsgroup if your site does not receive it?
Would it be possible to receive it in a mailing-list form?  Sorry
to ask this question; its probably answered in a FAQ somewhere...
(To be more specific, I would like to receive rec.pets.cat and 
alt.pagan.)
 
                                Chris Galas
                                CEG@PNet51.Orb.MN.Org
From: Brian.R.Cook@dartmouth.edu (Brian R. Cook)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: test
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:18:37 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

this is a test please ignore
From: cdl0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CONRAD DANIEL LLOYD-KNIGHT)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: "alt." newsgroups question!
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:05:10 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


    Hi out there!

    I am having trouble finding a bunch of newsgroups starting with the prefix
"alt.". As far as I can tell, these newsproups appear to be an optional news
package that the netserver can recieve along with everything else if whoever's
in charge so decides. Is this how it works? Or are the alt.'s part of another
network? And how can I access them? In answering these questions, assume I'm a
complete idiot (not far from the truth!) and go through explanations step by
step (what keys to press and in what order, etc.). Earlier responses have been
way too technical for me to follow (eg: Download the ftp FAQ.file, etc. - it
doesn't mean a thing to me!).
    Any help would be greatly appreciated (and I mean that! I'm getting
    desperate!).

    Thanx,   -Conrad.
-- 

bye...
________________________________________________________________________________
*               Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.               *
*                     Love is the Law, Love under Will.                        *
*______________________________________________________________________________*
                           ___                                     - 666, A.C.
From: naffara@crc.ac.uk (Dr. N.A. Affara)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Can I change the max length of sig file?
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:19:19 GMT
Organization: MRC Human Genome Resource Centre

As the subject says, can I change the length of sig file I'm allowed?
I am using rn and it is limited to 4 lines. I only need 6 lines so it
shouldn't bother people who say "you don't need a long sig file" too much :-)
Please help.
Thanks,
Phil
(E-mail naffara@uk.ac.crc)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: hinz@bonfire (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987)
Subject: How do I change my <from>?
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 09:23:00 GMT

Greetings.

I have been reading & posting for about a month, and have noticed & been
informed that my header is screwed up.  I am using tin as a newsreader,
and my <from> shows up as hinz@bonfire instead of hinz@picard.med.ge.com
I assume there is a .*rc file I have to modify on my end somewhere, but
I don't know which one, or which variable needs to be set, etc. etc.

Any help would be appreciated.  Please reply with e-mail, so as not to
waste bandwidth.  Note that you have to use the address in my .sig file.

Thanks!


--

Dave Hinz  -  Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.  Obviously.
hinz@picard.med.ge.com


Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: bx953@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David R. Cohen)
Subject: I'm a Moron, Part Two
Reply-To: bx953@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David R. Cohen)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 19:27:44 GMT


Thanks for the responses so far, but please do not respond to my plea 
for help by sending copies of Spafford's "What is Usenet."  I have read
that file, and (unless I am missing something) it does not answer my
questions about how Usenet came into being or how it works, on a 6th grade
level.  Also, I do not have ftp access.  Someone sent me Kehoe's ZEN, which
looks helpful, anything else would be great.

Thanks again.
David
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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: yyang@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Yaoyu Yang)
Subject: Re: May a BBS site be achived from bitnet?
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Distribution: dc
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:34:59 GMT

In article <92209.171753E66821@TRMETU.BITNET> E66821@TRMETU.BITNET writes:
>
>  Is there a way to access BBS sites from Bitnet?
>  Any info (yes and no) will be appreciated. thanks.
>
>
>  Alp.


Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: consp03@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Kriston J. Rehberg)
Subject: How Do I Apply Diff Patches?
Organization: Binghamton University Computing Services - The POD Staff
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 02:50:15 GMT

How do I apply diff-style patches to stuff in comp.sources.misc?  I
cannot seem to get the diff files for the freeze utility to work.

Thanks.

Kris

--
Kriston J. Rehberg, POD Consultant          consp03@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu
Binghamton University Computing Services    CONSP03@BINGVAXA.BITNet
#include <stddisclaimer.h>                  "Labra lege:  Hackito ergo sum"
"Your lack of common decency reminds me of a computer" - emacs M-x flame
From: naren@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Naren Bala)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: test
Date: 25 Jul 92 21:52:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

This is a test. Please Ignore.
From: evans-ron@CS.YALE.EDU (Ron Evans)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: stupid test--don't read.
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:50:45 GMT






Don't you read subject lines?
From: exby@pogo.Colorado.EDU (Doc Exby)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: alt creators ?
Summary: help
Keywords: new tv group
Date: 30 Jul 92 04:08:03 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder


Well I am not exactly new to the Usenet, but I haven't
quite had the need for this yet:

I would like to find discussion or someone who can
create alt newsgroups.  What me and a bunch of friends are
looking for is an:

alt.tv.90210MP

for the (yes I know) gross discussion about Beverly Hills 90210
and the new MP = Melrose Place  goofy drama series on Fox.
anyone help here or point me in the right direction...  

I know i know, you can throw eggs at the screen now, and I
should have better things to do with my life, but hey
it's fun to turn your brain off for two straight hours!  :-)

.....................................
-=====-                        -=====-
  -=-   exby@pogo.Colorado.EDU   -=-
   -                              -
From: nak@maths.nott.ac.uk (Nicki Keating)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Anonymous FTP from UK to anywhere else!!
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:12:45 GMT
Organization: Maths Dept., Nott'm Univ., UK.

Can someone please explain very simply how I can FTP to a site elsewhere in the
world?  I have tried FTP XXXX	where  XXXX is the address that's offered, but
I must be missing something out, as it always says  XXXX:unknown host.

(Using UNIX/SUN)

E.G. I tried   export.lcs.mit.edu   as mentioned in an earlier article, but
no joy.




Much appreciated.
From: brea9430@mach4.wlu.ca (breadner kenneth cecil joseph u)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: THANX FOR THE SMILEYS
Date: 26 Jul 92 20:45:14 GMT
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University

TO the six dozen people who have e-mailed me the smiley index, thanks! I
haven't laughed this hard in quite a while. Please, no more, before I wet
myself!

Thanks a lot!

Ken Breadner
(brea9430@mach4.wlu.ca)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: mstrange@alfred.carleton.ca (N E N Strangelove)
Subject: WAIS
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:56:49 GMT

Help! I am having difficulty using WAIS... Any helpful hints would be 
appreciated!

Thanks in advance,

Natalie Strangelove
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: ptmcinti@indyvax.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Usenet docs...
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:54:52 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

Hello all:   
I'm looking for a definitive users guide for USENET.  If anyone is aware of
an ftp site that might hold such a thing, please respond.  Thanx. 
PTMCINTI@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU 
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: u8023544@cc.nctu.edu.tw ()
Subject: test
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 09:06:32 GMT

this is a test!
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: sarang@saturn.sdsu.edu (Srinath Sarang)
Subject: Exchange rates - online....
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:16:34 GMT



Hi,
    Is there a place that I could telnet to get currency exchange rates
etc ?
On the same note, is there a telnettable place where I could find out the
time differences between any two places ?

Flames to /dev/null
SS
sarang@saturn.sdsu.edu
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     xxx                      xxx     xx
      xxx             xxx   xxx      xxxx 
         xxxxxx      x  xx xx         xx
 xx         xxxxx         x           xx
  xx          xxxx      x  x          xx 
   xxx     xxxxx       x   x          xx 
      xxxxxx            xxx          xxxx
From: kilpatri@nextnet.ccs.csus.edu (John A. Kilpatrick)
Subject: net slang book
Originator: kilpatri@nextnet
Organization: California State University Sacramento
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 07:09:10 GMT

I was at Anime Expo (a large Japanese animation convention in San Jose, CA)
and at a discussion of on-line services a physical book was mentioned that
covered net slang and it's origins, etc.  It was also mentioned that it is
published by a major school (like MIT or Harvard or something...).  If you
know what the book is please e-mail the name and any info on it to
kilpatri@nextnet.ccs.csus.edu.  I will summarize on the net...thanks.
-- 
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* I gotta run like a wounded badger"|Gundam0083[kilpatri.nextnet.ccs.csus.edu]*
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From: chandan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Ikramuddin Ahmed)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Just testin'
Date: 26 Jul 92 22:04:06 GMT
Reply-To: chandan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Ikramuddin Ahmed)
Distribution: ut
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: chandan@huey.cc.utexas.edu

Just testin'...:)

IA
-- 
     "A witty saying                |     "So what does 
      proves nothing." -- Voltaire  |      it prove?" -- }:-!>
From: ivory@e7sa.epi.syr.ge.com (John Ivory)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Access to Internet from home: how?
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:27:43 GMT
Reply-To: ivory@e7sa.epi.syr.ge.com
Organization: Tower Concepts

Access to Internet is invaluable to me: FTP, USENET News, TELNET logons, etc.
How can I obtain access to it from my home?  I have an excellent PC, a Sun
workstation, and numerous modems.

I'm expecting that I'll need to buy an account on some system, and will have
to modem in.  Who do I contact?  How much will this cost?  Where to I begin?
I'm in the central NY region (Utica, Syracuse) and would prefer to avoid
long distance phone charges if possible.

I'll be happy to read an FAQ on this if there is one.  I'm also just as
happy to summarize and repost the responses.  Thanks.

								John

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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: u8023544@cc.nctu.edu.tw ()
Subject: How to get the source code of VI
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 09:50:02 GMT

Hi! 
  Can you tell me where the source code of vi is ? thanx.
From: sasmith@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: SCDOWN
Date: 30 Jul 92 12:54:24 -0700
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

a test post
Newsgroups: news.answers