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From: sethg@dcatlas.dot.gov (Seth Grimes)
Subject: Re: Wanted: program that will simulate unix on vms
Organization: U.S Dept. of Transportation
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 11:52:22 GMT

kent@loral.cts.com (Kent Yang) writes:

>I have just been put on a VMS project and being a unix programmer all
>my life, I was wondering if there are any public domain or free software
>that will allow me to simulate unix commands on a vms OS.  If you know
>of such a program and where I can get it.  Please send me email or
>leave a reply on the net.  

Yes, VMS Posix.  It's a performance dog and it will cost you, however.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: ORAKEL@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Framstag)
Subject: PIPE, was Re: at the risk of drawing severe flamage - q's about 
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 00:47:11 GMT
X-Copyright: Fuer Veroeffentlichungen _AUSSERHALB_ des Newssystemes gelten _MEINE_ Geschaeftsbedingungen. Nichtbeachtung wird in der Regel zivil- und strafrechtliche Folgen Fuer Veroeffentlichungen _AUSSERHALB_ des Newssystemes gelten _MEINE_ Geschaeftsbedingungen. Nichtbeachtung wird in der Regel zivil- und strafrechtliche Folgen nachusich ziehen.       
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

I've just looked in my pipe distribution kit and found some nasty things.

I've now corrected:  translated all German help-texts to English
                     added some missing sources
		     updated the README.

You still find it at info.rz.uni-ulm.de (134.60.1.125) in pub/VMS/misc

Please send any questions or suggestions to me.


\  Ulli 'Framstag' Horlacher    \    psi%0262450502601::rzmain::orakel  \
 \  Student consultant VAX/VMS and networks   \  orakel@dulruu51.bitnet  \
  \  Rechenzentrum  Universitaet Ulm  Germany  \    orakel@rz.uni-ulm.de  \
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From: dragon@nscvax.princeton.edu (Mighty Firebreather)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: Linking C programs
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:41:47 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


	Steve Shoecraft <shoecraf@mc.bitnet> writes:
>
>
>    I have seen many postings on this list regarding linking a C object
>against the sharable image, VAXCTRL.EXE. This involves creating a linker
>option file (.OPT), and specifying this option file on the command line when
>linking to create a much smaller executable image. I have used this method
>for some time now, and it works quite well...
>    A short time ago, I saw a response to one of these questions which pointed
>out where the REAL problem is, and why we need to do this in the first place.
>It was pointed out that since the CRTL wasn't in the sharable image library,
>IMAGELIB.OLB, and therefore, we must provide a pointer to it implicitly. Well,
>why not put it there?? To do this, just add it to the image library:
>
>        $ SET DEF SYS$LIBRARY
>        $ LIB/SHARE IMAGELIB SYS$SHARE:VAXCRTL.EXE
>
>    Now you have to remove the logical name pointer to VAXCRTL.OLB. Do a SH
>LOG LNK* <enter>. There will be a reference that looks something like this:
>
>        LNK$LIBRARY = "SYS$LIBRARY:VAXCRTL"
>
>    If you have curses and/or g_float support, it may be LNK$LIBRARY_1 or _2.
>be sure to DEASS/SYS the logical name that points to VAXCRTL. Also, you might
>also wish to remove/comment out the entry which defines it in the startup
>command procedure so that if the system is rebooted, users will not go back
>to linking against the regular library.
>    If anyone out there might have any comments or warnings on this please let
>me know... As yet, I have not seen/heard of any problems by doing this...
>

	Steve,

	DO NOT DO THIS!!!!

	There are some fairly serious problems involved here.  The C name 
space is an uncontrolled mess!  Look at the names in the VAX C library:
abort, access, acos, ... alarm, assert, box, bsearch, close, creat, delete,
dup, echo, erase, exit, ...!!!

	Can you imagine a programmer innocently using names from the C
library in his Fortran, Pascal, COBOL, Macro, etc. programs?  Can you
imagine what happens when he links his program? 

	The VAX/VMS procedure calling standard covers naming conventions 
and, when followed, prevents name collisions between modules written in
various languages; e.g. when Fortran calls EXIT it generates an external
reference to FOR$EXIT which is satisfied by a routine of that name from the
library.  The C library does not comply with the standard and therefore 
cannot be safely inserted in SYS$SHARE:IMAGELIB

*************************************************************************
*                                                                       *
*                        Here, there be dragons!                        *
*                      dragon@nscvax.princeton.edu                      *
*                                                                       *
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From: SK0001@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Montoring the use of REPLY (SAK 92_14)
Date: 3 Sep 92 03:26:57 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Hello All

I have a need to monitor all messages sent using the DCL REPLY/USER command and
save them to a log file. I have developped many applications where I trapped 
broadcast messages to a file, or a specific area on the screen. However, this 
solution requires that each user runs the software at their end to perform the 
trapping. So this solution is not suitable for my problem.

I need a solution that would log the broadcasts without user's knowldge or
intervension. I would rather use a public domain package to do this, but am 
willing to develop my own software. If I was to write software to do this, I 
would need to know HOW one program can monitor all broadcasts to (or from) 
user terminals.

The issue of system privs is irrelevant, since I am the system manager, I am 
able to run the program at any level of privs it may require.

I realize this request raises certain ethical and legal issues. I will need to
deal with the ethics involved on my own. This solution will be used to satisfy
some legal issues that would make computer privacy look trivial by comparison.
If you feel you disagree with my ethics, please do not waste bandwidth flamming
me in public. I will accept any criticism in E-Mail.

I appreciate your help. You may send me your responses in E-Mail if you wish.

                            ______________________

Sal Kabalani
Supervisor of Operations/Data Systems
Iowa Network Services
West Des Moines, Iowa 50266.
(515)830-0436

SK0001 @ ACAD.DRAKE.EDU
From: KPETERSO@BENTLEY.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Editing large files with TPU
Date: 26 Aug 92 00:04:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I am trying to EDIT/TPU (EVE) a 29553 block file and coming up
with errors.  When I EVE the filename, the machine thinks about
it, then I recieve the following error message:

2098 byte record to large for users buffer

Enclosed are my quotas from the UAF:

Maxjobs:         0  Fillm:       200  Bytlm:        50000
Maxacctjobs:     0  Shrfillm:      0  Pbytlm:           0
Maxdetach:       0  BIOlm:       150  JTquota:       1024
Prclm:           6  DIOlm:      4096  WSdef:         4096
Prio:            4  ASTlm:      4096  WSquo:        16384
Queprio:         0  TQElm:        10  WSextent:     32800
CPU:        (none)  Enqlm:       200  Pgflquo:      70000

Any help/words of wisdom would be appreciated.  We are running
on a 6520 with 128 M memory, VMS V5.42, and disk quotas are not
a problem. Please respond to me directly at the address below.

Thanks in advance!
 _______________
|         ____  |  ---------------------------------------------------
|  ___   /    \ |   Karen Peterson           BITNET:  KPETERSO@BENTLEY
| /   \  |    | |   175 Forest Street        Phone:   (617) 891-3432
| |   |  |    | |   Bentley College
| |   |  |    | |   Waltham, MA  02154
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From: ARNE@ko.hhs.dk (Arne Vajhxj)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Set Forward via VMS MAIL
Date: 2 Sep 92 09:16:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

> >		Is there a way in VMS MAIL to set forward to multiple
> >		accounts?
> >		I was hoping to issue a command like:
> >		MAIL> SET FORWARD LUCAS,DEBLER
> 
> How about creating a distribution list with multiple names, then use that to
> SET FORWARD to, ala:
> 
> 		MAIL> SET FORWARD @LUKE-N-DEB

This solution is simple and easy to use, but unfortunatetly it does not work
(on VMS 5.x) !!!!

VMS MAIL do not allow this. If I remember correct, then it has something
to with a potential problem with sending MAIL between DECNET nodes.

                                                          Arne

Arne Vajhxj                             local DECNET:  KO::ARNE
Computer Department                     PSI:           PSI%23831001304030::ARNE
Business School of Southern Denmark     Internet:      ARNE@KO.HHS.DK
From: mahan@TGV.COM (Patrick L. Mahan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: DECW$LOGIN_BACKGROUND & XV
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:12:13 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

In article <01GNYEL28MDCANBFLB@psulias.bitnet> you write:
#
#I have begun implementing this with a custom background for each of our
#VAXStation 4000 VLC's (each node, named for a Disney character, has the
#character prominently displayed as well as the university's mark).  When I
#started working on this, using a .GIF file secured across the network (NASA
#astronaught on a spacewalk), the execution of "XV -ROOT -MAXP -QUIT" seemed 
#to be raising the backdrop behind the login dialog box, and then keep it there
#after the user's session started up.  Then, when I began using these images(
#produced on a MAC using Digital Darkroom to compose the various images into a
#TIFF graphic, then transferring the TIFFs to the VAX and converting them by
#saving the TIFF graphic as a GIF from XV) the backdrops only hang on through
#the login dialog -- as soon as the user's individual applications begin to
#launch, it seems to go away, leaving the background *previously* customized in
#the Session Manager Option "Screen Background...".  Note that the station which
#successfully had the SPACEWALK.GIF file remain after the login dialog had
#indeed been previously customized with a screen background.
#

Are all of the users using the same window manager?  Also, are the same
startups happening on all machines?  There should be no difference between
using the SPACEWALK.GIF and any other .GIF file.

--
Patrick L. Mahan

--- TGV Window Washer ------------------------------- Mahan@TGV.COM ---------

Waking a person unnecessarily should not be considered  - Lazarus Long
a capital crime.  For a first offense, that is            From the Notebooks of
							  Lazarus Long
From: SYSMGR@IPG.PH.KCL.AC.UK
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: re: Looking for DEC Pathworks Lists/Discussion
Date: 2 Sep 92 09:53:14 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

> I am looking for an interest group of DEC's PathWorks (for DOS).  The only
> list I have found (a LISTSERV, PCSA-L) does not seem to be around anymore.

The LISTSERVer at MIAMIU.BITNET has a list called LANWORKS, which is what
you want. I can recommend this list, its active but well focussed, and
gets around 10 messages per day.

Apparently vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks carries the same traffic.

Why LANWORKS not PATHWORKS? I think DEC called their product LANWORKS in
the early days, then got sued.

	Nigel Arnot

		NRA%ipg.ph.kcl.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk   (internet)
		NRA%uk.ac.kcl.ph.ipg@ukacrl.bitnet        (bitnet)
		NRA%ipg.ph.kcl.ac.uk@cunyvm.cuny.edu
		etc...
From: rankin@EQL.Caltech.Edu (Pat Rankin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: sys_errlist[] in vax C: how large?
Date: 28 Aug 92 01:20:49 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

>      I have a program written in VAX C for VMS. I have a statement
> such as "extern char *sys_errlist[]" which allows me to get the string
> corresponding to various errno values. The problem is, errno values
> like 48 (which is a legal errno value, according to errno.h) when used
> as indeces into the sys_errlist array cause a segmentation fault. So,
> how big is the sys_errlist[], why isn't it big enough to include some
> of the valid errno values,

     This is on my list of known VAXCRTL bugs.  The array is supposed
to run from 0 to sys_nerr inclusive, but sys_errlist[] is smaller than
that.  There are two different arrays of error entries.  One (sys_errlist)
cannot be enlarged because of the impact it would have on the rest of
shareable image vaxcrtl.exe, the other (c$$ga_sys_errlist) can presumeably
be expanded as needed, and is currently larger.  The real bug is not
that sys_errlist[] doesn't have all the entries but rather that sys_nerr
wrongly reflects the size of the larger array.  (That array is not
directly accessible unless you link with vaxcrtl.olb and jump through
a hoop or two.)

> and what is the proper way to get the string (I cannot use perror())
> corresponding to the higher errno values?

     The proper way is to ignore sys_errlist[] altogether and use the
strerror() function.  It's blessed by the ANSI standard and works for
the whole range of codes.  The VAXCRTL version is non-conforming since
it takes an optional second parameter, but it works correctly.  If you
pass an out of range value--or pass EVMSERR without supplying the second
argument--you'll get back a null pointer.  If you use `errno' as the
first argument, you would normally use global variable `vaxc$errno' as
the second.

                Pat Rankin, rankin@eql.caltech.edu
From: ALLEN@ECF.NCSL.NIST.GOV
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Bookreader/Bookbrowser
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:04:25 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

>>and you should be able to read any docs on the CD's, since you will have
>>licensed BOOKBROWSER. (And who said LMF was hard?)
>>
>interesting; i've just check and my cd's (i.e. CDDOC06JUL21, CDDOC06JUL22,
>CDDOC06JUL23) do not have this procedure on them.

	BOOKBROWSER.COM was omitted from the July CDROM distribution.
	Colorado assures me it will be reinstated with the September
	distribution ;-)

	-Dan

	***********************************************************************
	Dan Allen			     Internet:  allen@ecf.ncsl.nist.gov 
	Room A62, Building 225		     Telephone: (301) 975-2903  
	Computer Systems Laboratory	
	National Institute of Standards and
	  Technology (NBS in a past life)
	Gaithersburg, Md. 20899
From: balusek@EUROPA.brooks.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: IEEE float to VAX float conversion
Date: 3 Sep 92 00:26:50 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Does anyone know of a program or algorithm to convert IEEE floating point format
to VAX floating point format.  We have some data coming from BORLAND C++
on a PC to the VAX and we are currently converting everything to ACSII
before transferring to the VAX.  Would like to transfer binary data
with the proper conversion.  Program could run either on PC or VAX and
in just about any language.

Thanks
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Robert A Balusek                            Armstrong Laboratory
(512) 536-2109  AV 240-2109                 Clinical Sciences Division
E-mail addresses                            Brooks AFB, TX 78235
balusek%europa.decnet@hqhsd.brooks.af.mil <-slow but available 24-hours a day
balusek@europa.brooks.af.mil <-fast but available normal duty hours
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: bryan@uhura1.uucp (Bryan Curnutt)
Subject: Re: Information on CMU-Tek TCP/IP
Reply-To: bryan%uhura1@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Stoner Associates, Inc./DREM Incorporated, Houston Texas
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:17:56 GMT

dragon@NSCVAX.PRINCETON.EDU (Mighty Firebreather) writes:
>
><munnari.oz.au!uniwa!fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au!i_leonard@uunet.uu.net> writes:
>>
>>I am wondering if CMU-TEK TCP/IP is still around.
>
>information about CMU-TEK TCP/IP send to <tcpip+@andrew.cmu.edu>. 
>
>	The mailing list is <cmu-tek-tcp@cmutek.cc.cmu.edu>.  Insert a 
>"-request" between "tcp" and the "@" to subscribe and for other 
>administrivia.

There's more:

According to the latest checkgroups message for vmsnet, the newsgroup
vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.cmu-tek is gatewayed to the mailing list
<cmu-tek-tcp+@andrew.cmu.edu>.  As always, add a "-request" before
the "@" for any mail you want to go to the maintainer rather than to
everyone who subscribes to the list or reads the newsgroup.
-- 
Any opinions above are mine, and do not necessarily reflect the views of SAI.
Bryan Curnutt
bryan%uhura1@uunet.uu.net
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: pack@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Daniel Packman)
Subject: Porting applications using VMS_POSIX
Organization: Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research, Atmospheric Chemistry
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:42:06 GMT

Has anyone tried porting a unix application within the VMS_POSIX
environment?  The installation creates some files in /usr/include,
but certainly not all of them.  Some include files, particularly
for X11 have mixed case.  Has anyone copied these to /usr/include/X11
and renamed them to correspond to standard mixed case?  Any tips on
effective use of this environment will be appreciated.

Thanks.

--
Dan Packman     NCAR                             INTERNET: pack@ncar.UCAR.EDU
(303) 497-1427  P.O. Box 3000
                Boulder, CO  80307-3000        NSI/DECNET: 9583::PACK
From: mores@eavax.sanders.lockheed.com (David C. Mores)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Submitting Jobs for Last Day of Month
Date: 25 Aug 92 14:20:17 GMT
Reply-To: mores@eavax.sanders.lockheed.com (David C. Mores)
Organization: Lockheed Sanders, Inc.


--
Yes, it is fairly easy.  Using lexical functions you should be able to create
a text string for the first day of the next month.  Given that, it is just a
simple matter of one day before as follows:

	$ submit xxx.com/after="1-SEP-1992-1 0:0"

The "-1 0:0" says one day before 1-SEP-1992.  Read more on this in the VMS DCL
Concepts manual.

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
David C. Mores            Principal Systems Specialist             Keep it short
Lockheed Sanders, Inc.    Nashua, NH                               and sweet.
Internet E-mail: mores@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com                 do da do da
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

"Sometimes I think that the surest sign that intellegent life exists elsewhere
in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." -Calvin
Xref: sparky comp.os.vms:14196 vmsnet.sources.d:560 vmsnet.admin:413
From: oberman@ptavv.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,vmsnet.sources.d,vmsnet.admin
Subject: Re: Wanted: program that will simulate unix on vms
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:16:29 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.vms

In article <1992Aug27.115222.23396@dcatlas.dot.gov>, sethg@dcatlas.dot.gov (Seth Grimes) writes:
> kent@loral.cts.com (Kent Yang) writes:
> 
>>I have just been put on a VMS project and being a unix programmer all
>>my life, I was wondering if there are any public domain or free software
>>that will allow me to simulate unix commands on a vms OS.  If you know
>>of such a program and where I can get it.  Please send me email or
>>leave a reply on the net.  
> 
> Yes, VMS Posix.  It's a performance dog and it will cost you, however.

Yes, it's a performance dog and pretty buggy, to boot. But it doesn't cost
anything. I hope V1.1 is a bit cleaner (and maybe faster).

Oh... you want a manual! I survive on the CDDOC. BOOKREADER is very handy.

R. Kevin Oberman			Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
Internet: koberman@llnl.gov		(510) 422-6955

Disclaimer: Don't take this too seriously. I just like to improve my typing
and probably don't really know anything useful about anything.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: harvey@indyvax.iupui.edu
Subject: Re: Will lmf kill alpha?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:37:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.140033.2240@inland.com>, allebrandi@inland.com (Tom Allebrandi) writes:
>> administrative overhead caused by correctly using lmf.
>
> If you want to talk about administrative overhead, open your eyes. We
> just went through a main CPU upgrade for our VAX/VMS cluster. For the
> most part, for those products which needed new licenses, the LMF
> managed products came right up; the non-LMF managed products gave us
> some form of trouble.

This has been our experience too.  I actively discourage the purchase of
any software for our system that uses it's own (often harebrained) license
management system.  I have wasted much more time with these than I ever
spent "correctly using LMF."  I still can't decide which is worse, the
software that tried to find our hardware Ethernet adapter address but didn't
know what a DEBNA was (i.e., could not be convinced to look at ETA0) or
the silly package that wouldn't run half the time after we went to VMS 5.0
(SMP) because it was misusing the CPU SID for machine identification (this
was on an 8800)...

--
James Harvey    IUPUI OIT Technical Support
harvey@iupui.edu  uucp: iugate!harvey  bitnet: harvey@indyvax
From: dragon@NSCVAX.PRINCETON.EDU (Mighty Firebreather)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: Lex or Flex for VMS?
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:20:41 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


	MARK LONDON <MRL@NERUS.PFC.MIT.EDU> writes:
>
>Is there a VMS Version of either lex or flex and where can I get it?  Thanks.
>
>Mark
>

	Both lex and yacc are available from CompuServe's VAX Forum in 
Library 10.

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*			Here, there be dragons!				*
*		      dragon@nscvax.princeton.edu			*
*                      76702.1567@CompuServe.Com                        *
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*						Richard B. Gilbert	*
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: artus@iowasp.physics.uiowa.edu
Subject: Captive accounts under VMS 5.5
Organization: Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Iowa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:11:41 GMT



We are running VMS 5.5 and are having problems with captive accounts.
V5.5 has a new RESTRICTED flag versus CAPTIVE.  Is anyone else having
problems with captive accounts on V5.5?  Is this a 5.5 bug and is there
a known fix?

Thanks.

Karen Artus
artus@iowasp.physics.uiowa.edu
From: hellings@amc.uva.nl
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE:Will lmf kill alpha???
Date: 29 Aug 92 20:00:56 GMT
Organization: Central computer department

I sure like LMF especially when I updated my Fortran compiler during the
weekend and the License was outdated. So I phoned DEC Sorry no support during
weekend. So I had to wait until Monday. Yes it was true with this Fortran
version you needed a new code. So why don't the do something extra for people
who are always paying there licensefee instead of punishing them with LMF??
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