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From:         George Frajkor <gfrajkor@CCS.CARLETON.CA>
Subject:      Cyrillic

    the following request was on the Slovak-l list
(Slovak-l@ubvm.bitnet) but I thought it should be forwarded.


I'm investigating the installation of Cyrillic fonts on some Macs and have
been depressed by the frightening numbers of different fonts.  I often find
that while my Cyrillic characters work fine on my machine, that documents
that others create, using other fonts, don't map correct to my characters.

Is there any standard for Cyrillic characters for the Mac (including the
diacritics and accents found only in linguistic journals)?  If not any
formal standard, is there any de facto standard?  I've heard about Casidy
and Greene's Cyrillic library, which sounds great, but have also heard
of an "Extended Apple Cyrillic" to which C & G's library doesn't conform.

Any information or advise that people can offer would be greatly appreciated.
We're looking for ways to minimize incompatibilities when sharing Mac docs
with other Slavic writers.  Thanks.

My apologies if this is the incorrect forum for this question.

-- Rob Ryan, Computing Resource Center, Brown University
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From:         "Robert W. Norwood" <NORWOODR@HARTWICK.EDU>
Subject:      An inquiry

Hello.
I know this may not necessarily be relevant, but I am trying to develop email
links for some developmental work in Czechoslovakia.
In particular, I am looking for individuals who can inform me and/or keep me
informed on the development or lack thereof of small businesses in
Czechoslovakia, particularly those providing basic commodities.  Grocers
and Pharmacies are good examples.  In addition, I would welcome any
information anyone has to offer on related subjects.
Generally, I am mainly interested in the vicinity of Prague, but am also
looking for information on towns elsewhere within the former CSFR with
universities located in them.
If you can lead me to such information or can lead me to contacts who could
help me, a personal contact would be most appreciated.
Rob Norwood
Hartwick College
Oneonta, New York, USA
norwoodr@hartwick.edu
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From:         Elliott Parker <3ZLUFUR@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Subject:      TH: Vimol doesn't want controversy

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 23:08:04+0700
From: Kamol Hengkietisak <kamol@ipied.tu.ac.th>
Subject: Bangkok Post Nov 20: Vimol refuses to be drawn into controvery


ARMY Chief Gen Vimol Wongwanich yesterday asked reporters again
not to raise questions which might cause him to have ideological
clashes with politicians.

On his return from the Philippines on Wednesday, the Army Chief
blamed the Press for leading Territorial Defence Department
commander Lt-Gen Yuthaphan Makaramanee into a verbal tit-for-tat
exchange with politicians.

He declined to comment when asked about an article entitled
"Soldiers and business" by economic lecturers of Chulalongkorn
University which says a number of military officers whose income
is meagre but are burdened with high expenses have resorted to
using their power to gain financially.

Asked what should be done to make the people understand and look
at the military with justice, Gen Vimol said: "One would know the
use of salt when his curry is insipid."

Gen Vimol said there will be improvements in the Army to suit the
situation. However, some of its works cannot be disclosed because
doing so could affect national security.

He believed the present situation, both internally and externally,
is secure.

The Army is ready to accept advice from knowledgable persons in
the military for its improvement, Gen Vimol said.

Asked whether the return of Manoon Roopkachorn, a Chulachomklao
Military Academy Class 7 graduate, to fight assassination charges
in court would affect unity in the Army, Gen Vimol said: "How can
just one man cause disunity in the Army? This question is
damaging. It may cause the man to take it for granted that he
alone can make the country shaky."
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:37:08 -0400
From:         ZAIGI@AC.DAL.CA
Subject:      asean free trade zone

Dear Netter,
Anybody can confirm that ASEAN countries has established the free trade zone
and issued a statement? If yes, would you please send me the information
package?
Thank you very much in advance.
Nick
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 09:54:55 -0500
From:         Nhan Tran <tran@PEORA.SDC.CCUR.COM>
Subject:      NEWS/VN: Thai crown prince arrives in VN

11/15

THAI CROWN PRINCE ARRIVES IN VIETNAM

    HANOI, Nov 15, Reuter - Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn of Thailand arrived in
Vietnam on Sunday for a six-day official visit.
    "I hope this visit will open a new important era in the relations between
the two countries," he told Vietnamese Deputy President Nguyen Thi Binh who
greeted him.
    The crown prince, the first member of the Thai royal family to travel to
Hanoi, is scheduled to meet Vietnamese President Le Duc Anh, Prime Minister Vo
Van Kiet and Communist Party Chief Do Muoi before flying to Ho Chi Minh city on
Wednesday.
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 10:19:32 -0500
From:         Nhan Tran <tran@PEORA.SDC.CCUR.COM>
Subject:      NEWS/VN: VN's ambassador to UN tried to defect

11/19

Vietnam-Defection

Copyright, 1992. The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

   TACOMA, Wash. (AP) -- A U.S. Senate committee is investigating a report that
Vietnam's ambassador to the United Nations tried to defect earlier this year
and provide information on missing American servicemen in Vietnam.
   Nguyen Can, Vietnam's second-ranking diplomat in the United States, was
recalled to Vietnam this summer after his defection attempt was rebuffed or
bungled by U.S. officials, Robert Egan, an American friend of Can's, said in
today's The Morning News Tribune.
   At the time, Can was one of two Vietnamese ambassadors accredited to the
United Nations. Many countries have more than one representative.
   The Senate Select Committee on POW-MIA Affairs is investigating the
allegation and trying to learn Can's fate, said Lisa Stocklan, a spokeswoman
for Sen. Bob Smith, R-N.H. Smith is vice chairman of the POW committee.
   Egan said Can told him that he had seen American prisoners held long after
the Vietnam War ended in 1973 and that Hanoi hid the remains of servicemen
missing in action -- claims the Vietnamese government has strongly denied.
   Egan, a Hackensack, N.J., restaurateur, is not a veteran or relative of a
missing American but for years has been meeting with Vietnamese officials, the
News Tribune said.
   Can was prepared to reveal his information to U.S. officials, Egan said. But
his attempted defection was bungled or rebuffed, Egan and three current and
former Senate staffers told the News Tribune.
   The staffers, who were not identified, told the newspaper that Rep. Robert
Torricelli, D-N.J., was the middleman on the attempted defection.
   Torricelli spokesman Larry McDonnell confirmed that Egan had given the
congressman information on POW-MIAs and possible Vietnamese defectors.
McDonnell also confirmed that Egan had introduced Torricelli to then-Ambassador
Can and that the men discussed POW-MIA information.
   But as far as whether Torricelli was told Can wanted to defect, the
spokesman said, "As far as I know, it's just not true."
   A Vietnamese spokesman has also denied that Can tried to defect. "That is
fake information," said Dzung Le of the Vietnamese Mission to the United
Nations.
   Le confirmed that Can returned to Hanoi several months ago but said, "No one
forced him to go back. ... He's retired."
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Subject:      VI: Religious leaders joined in to pray for peace

**************
A Day of Prayer for Peace
**************

ROME, Italy October 6-7, 1992: More than two hundred Vietnamese
religious leaders and representatives of various religions joined in a
day to pray for Vietnam's peace, seventeen years after the war ended.

The event, held on the campus of the Vatican University and organized
by Bishop Tran Van Hoai of the Vatican, gathered for the first time
representatives of Buddhism, Catholicism, Caodaiism, Hoa Hao, and Tin
Lanh. They came to pray for genuine peace. According to the Bishop:
"The war has ended but peace has not come to Vietnam; human rights and
dignity are being violated."

Participants called for religious unity in and outside of Vietnam to
further Vietnam's struggle for freedom. They also called for world
support in the Vietnamese endeavor for genuine peace.

The delegates also received the honor of meeting with the Pope and to relay
their aspirations to this highly reverent, influential man, whose efforts
greatly contributed to Poland's freedom and to world peace.


************
Fund Raising Dinner for radio "Voice of Freedom"
************

SAN JOSE, California, USA September 27: A fund-raising dinner was held
in support of the Voice of Freedom in Moscow. The radio broadcast, which
aired its first program to Vietnam in July, has been the target of
vehement protest by Hanoi.

The program has been supported financially by the Vietnamese community
worldwide, particularly the Vietnamese pro-democracy group, Phuc Hung
(Organization for the Restoration of Vietnam).

The goal of the event was to raise US $10,000. Representatives of many
Vietnamese organizations at the dinner promised continuous support for
this important weapon against the Communist regime in Vietnam.

--
Vietnam Insight (vinsight@netcom.com)
Chan Tran, editor
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From: coopera@UCS.ORST.EDU (Alan Cooper)
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Subject: Thai internet addresses
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:52:40 GMT
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Can anyone on the list help me find internet addresses in Thailand?
I am particularly interested in addresses at Kassetsart, Chulalongkorn,
Khon Kaen & Chiang Mai universities.  Appreciate your help.

Alan S. Cooper, coopera@ucs.orst.edu
IPPC, Oregon State University
Corvallis, OR USA 97331
Tel: (503)737-6272
Fax: (503)737-3080
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Subject: NEWS/VN: MIA/POW
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:36:30 GMT
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USA TODAY Update
Nov. 18, 1992

POW FAMILIES GIVE WARNING:
   Families of U.S. servicemen missing in Indochina sounded a
warning Tuesday against Vietnam's concerted effort to regain
diplomatic recognition. The warning came as a Senate POW:MIA
committee delegation inspected Vietnam's collection of materials
taken from captives. Committee chairman Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.,
praised Vietnam's efforts and said it's time to "reciprocate."

SEN. KERRY ANGERS ACTIVISTS:
   Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., angered activists by suggesting the
U.S. consider lifting its embargo on Vietnam. "This is all a
sham," said Dolores Alfond, of the National Alliance of Families
of POWs:MIAs. U.S. companies are just as eager to do business in
Vietnam as Hanoi is for hard currency and a U.S. embassy. The USA
is not in bidding for oil leases and access to 70 million
citizens.
From: 2huxvalved@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
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Subject: re:RE:Nov.12 Massacre
Date: 15 Nov 92 01:28:12 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services



        Mr.Trocki and all what so called "human right activists"..

    You know some people put the toll number...200.000, some people say
150.000, and some 400.000. What are they talking about? The number is
CHANGING..! What kind of game are you playing? I was thinking that
those numbers are the people who were killed by Fretellin during the
civil war in ET.

    What do you say about the movement of some Black Americans, Indians
who want to create a separate country? Hey,....don't be hypocrite.....

    Did you ever think...how many people are killed in the US because of
your "have right to bear arms" since 1975 ? What's the issue ? Is it 
because mostly blacks who were and are being killed that you don't
talk about it as HUMAN RIGHT VIOLATION ? Or what?

    I don't deny that the Nov 12 incident was my govt mistake. But I
just want to remind you that each country has its own problem and your
country is NOT BETTER than mine. Did you ever think how many civillians
were killed during the Vietnam war ? Iraqi civillians ? Panamians ?
on...and on...


    Salam, on the springer banner land,

Bagong
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:16:35 -0500
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Subject:      IN: SOEHARTO PLANS TO VISIT AUSTRALIA

From: Bloomberg
-0- (BBN)      Nov/19/92  14:04

BBN 00:05 (BT)-Indonesia's Suharto Plans Australian Visit as Ties
               Improve


     Jakarta, Nov. 19 (Business Times) -- Indonesian President
Suharto could visit Australia in the next few months -for the first
time in 18 years -because bilateral ties are at "a new high,"
Indonesian officials said Wednesday.

     A new era in relations is said to have opened after a couple
of years of quiet diplomacy involving Australia's and Indonesia's
foreign ministers, Gareth Evans and Ali Alatas.

     Australian exports to Indonesia have almost trebled in the
past five years to A$1.5 billion (S$1.7 billion), while imports
from Indonesia have doubled to around A$800 million.

     Following a recent 13-day study tour by an Australian
parliamentary delegation, its leader, Senator Chris Schact, said
big investment opportunities had been missed in Indonesia.  Two-way
trade could treble by the end of the decade even though Australia
continued to raise human rights issues, he said.

     Australian investment in Indonesia has topped the A$l billion
level following involvement in two new coal-mining projects in
Kalimantan.  However, while most large Australian companies talk a
lot about Indonesia's promise, they have yet to make the leap from
rhetoric.

     At government level, a new aviation services agreement signed
last month will raise airline capacity by 40 per cent.  And the
government-owned Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) has
signed a deal to lease an Indonesian satellite transmitter for a
planned 10-hours-a-day TV service beamed to Asia.

     Diplomatic links were strengthened this week in Jakarta at the
first Australia Indonesia Ministerial Forum, with five cabinet
ministers taking part from each side.  This was the result of an
initiative by Prime Minister Paul Keating during a visit to Jakarta
in April.

     Indonesia's Coordinating Minister for the Economy, Finance and
Industry, Radius Prawiro, told the meeting a series of
misperceptions had almost brought the two nations "to blows" in
1986.

     "Australians have often had difficulty grasping the vagaries
of Indonesian politics while Indonesians have found it hard to
comprehend the quixotic nature of the Australian press," he said,
adding that Indonesians now had a better understanding of
Australia's press freedom.


     Australian journalists covering the visit said President
Suharto had told the five visiting Australian ministers there were
no obstacles to closer relations.



... C.A. KOWIK
... KOWIK@MARY.FORDHAM.EDU
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Subject:      Re: Malaysian Students Association (fwd)

Henry, et al,

It is always nice to have more voices contributing to the network listing
but please try to limit the discussion to the topics discussed in the
monthly posting.  You would be doing yours and ourselves a tremendous
service by replying directly to the original sender rather then clutter-
ing our mailboxes with your salutations.  In that same vein, I apologize
for cluttering everyone's mail with this off-topic posting.

Thanks,
Marc
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:18:00 EST
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Subject:      Singapore

Professor Sussman: somehow I am not able to write a long mail message on bitnet.
I am Singaporean, and just want to say that my friends, who are not wealthy
enough to travel and exprience the foreign media's depiction of human rights
violations in Singapore do feel that they are willing to scarifice some freedom
of speech for a crime-free, racially harmonious country.  They do not feel oppre
ssed.  Having been here for six years, I do believe that Singaore does violate
human rights, but singapreans who are not affluent and able to see a world out
side of Singapore do not feel so strongly about such matters.  It is indeed a
movemnt vehemently expressed outside Singapore.  Do you have literature I can
read about these violations? I do believe Singapore is not top of the list. I
can be reached at ext. 8770.

M. Fong Tan
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Subject:      Re: continue ...

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 09:52:27 -0500
From:         Nhan Tran <tran@PEORA.SDC.CCUR.COM>
Subject:      NEWS/VN: Hanoi postpones trial of hijacker

11/11

VIETNAM POSTPONES TRIAL OF HIJACKER

    HANOI, Nov 12, Reuter - Vietnam has postponed the trial of a former south
Vietnamese air force pilot who could face the death sentence for hijacking an
airliner to drop anti-government leaflets over Ho Chi Minh City.
    Supreme Court officials said late on Wednesday that the trial of Ly Tong, a
Vietnamese-born naturalised U.S. citizen, which was due to be held in Ho Chi
Minh City on Thursday and Friday had been postponed and no new date set.
    Tong was captured on September 4, hours after he hijacked a Vietnam
Airlines plane flying in from Bangkok and dropped leaflets from the cockpit
urging people to overthrow the government.
    No one on the plane was hurt and police captured him on the southern
outskirts of the city after he parachuted out of the cockpit.
    Tong was first captured in 1975 before communist forces defeated the
U.S.-backed South Vietnamese government. He escaped from a re-education camp in
1980 and travelled 2,500 km (1,600 miles) across Cambodia, Thailand, Malaysia
and Singapore before being resettled in the United States.
    An official newspaper said earlier this month that Tong would be tried for
hijacking and attempting to overthrow the government. Both charges carry a
maximum penalty of death.
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Subject:      Re: Malaysian Students Association (fwd)

Hi there,
  Thanx for writting.  I'm glad to hear from you.  I can write much at this
moment coz I'm busy with final.  When you so write to me, I will be glad if
you could tell more about yourself.

Sarakian....

Henry.
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:20:22 PST
From:         "Indonesia Publications/Task Force" <apakabar@IGC.APC.ORG>
Subject:      Indonesia clipping service

A source in Indonesia who must remain unnamed and cannot be contacted
online has asked me to post and screen queries about any needs by
progressive, activist NGOs and individuals for clippings from the
Indonesian-language and/or English-language press on subjects ranging
from East Timor to environmental issues to labor problems -- the list
is quite long, and it is likely your topic is available.

This is an exceptionally reliable, prompt, thorough, intelligent
and respected source.  Costs of the customized service are not nominal --
assume a minimum outlay of US$100 for a 3 month period -- but are far,
far below those of commercial clipping services.  Advance paymnent is
necessary.

If you need such a clipping service, please briefly _email me privately_
the following information and I will get back in touch shortly:

Your name
Your organization (if applicable)
Postal address to which the clippings would be sent
Why you need the clippings
The topics on which you need clippings (as specific as possible)
Clippings in Indonesian and/or English language
Preference for 3 month trial or full year commitment

And please put the word CLIPS in the subject line of your message --
I get a _lot_ of email and don't want to miss yours.   :-)

Thanks.

John (apakabar, igc:apakabar, web:apakabar)
reg.indonesia facilitator


John A. MacDougall                  Email: apakabar@igc.apc.org (Internet)
Editor, Indonesia Publications       or apakabar@access.digex.com (Internet)
Editor, Southeast Asia Publications Fax: 301-552-4465
Coordinator, Task Force Indonesia   Post: 7538 Newberry Lane
                                     Lanham-Seabrook, MD 20706 USA

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:33:20 -0500
From:         KOWIK@MARY.FORDHAM.EDU
Subject:      IN: PRESIDENT CALLS ON NAM

FROM : BLOOMBERG
EOS          (XIN) NOV/17/92    08:13 AM

BBN 08:29 AM (XIN)-INDONESIAN PRESIDENT CALLS ON NAM COUNTRIES TO
                   UNITE

JAKARTA (NOV. 17) XINHUA - PRESIDENT SOEHARTO TODAY CALLED ON THE
NON-ALIGNED MOVEMENT (NAM) COUNTRIES TO UNITE AND STRENGTHEN
COOPERATION ON VARIOUS FIELDS SO AS TO DEAL WITH CHALLENGES AND
OPPORTUNITIES CAUSED BY NEW CHANGES IN THE WORLD SITUATION.

     PRESIDENT SOEHARTO MADE THE CALL TODAY AFTER RECEIVING
CREDENTIALS FROM NEW SUDANESE AMBASSADOR AT THE MERDEKA PALACE.

     THE INDONESIAN HEAD OF STATE, WHO IS ALSO NAM CHAIRMAN, SAID
THAT THE CURRENT WORLD SITUATION HAS UNDERGONE RAPID AND PROFOUND
CHANGES, WHICH HAVE BROUGHT BOTH NEW HOPES AND NEW CHALLENGES, AND
PROBLEMS ON POLITICAL, ECONOMIC, SOCIAL AND CUL FIELDS.

     INDONESIA, WHO BECAME NAM CHAIRMAN AT THE 10TH SUMMIT IN
SEPTEMBER, SAID DEVELOPMENT OF FRIENDLY AND COOPERATIVE RELATIONS
BETWEEN COUNTRIES IS VERY NECESSARY TO EACH COUNTRY'S CONSTRUCTION.

-0- (XIN) NOV/17/92   8:13



... C.A. KOWIK
... KOWIK@MARY.FORDHAM.EDU
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