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From: James_Coulter@panam.wimsey.bc.ca (James Coulter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: COntinued from last quote.....
Distribution: world
Date: 17 Dec 92 00:22:19 PST
Organization: Commodore Computer Club / PaNorAmA

In a message dated Tue 15 Dec 92  0:01, Paula_lieberman@amicol.uucp (paula 
wrote:

 P> By the way, I was using LSE for the editing, and screwed up -- there
 P> are
 P> some missing >  that I didn't get in, and therefore some things which
 P> actually are quotes don't look like quotes.  SEE why I don't like
 P> quoting?
 P> Even doing it off-line I make errors!

Try using the FSE(full screen editor).  It's much better.


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From: jkh@whisker.lotus.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Subject: CD-I vs CDTV and Computer Shopper
Organization: Lotus Development Ireland
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:30:43 GMT

	Well, In the latest Computer Shopper, (I think its the UK's biggest computer mag)
	Gave the CD-I the Hardware Turkey of the Year award.

Sounds like typical sour grapes.  I've been playing with the CD-I for 3
days now and it's color and general "speed" is much much nicer than my
CDTV.  They've got a lot of catching up to do and no amount of snide
commentary from Amiga Shopper is going to change that.

					Jordan
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: sugai@ccs.mt.nec.co.jp (Masaru Sugai)
Subject: Re: IBM PC Compatible Sega Megadrive
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:00:30 GMT
Organization: NEC Corporation, +81(3)5476-1084(VOX)/1083(FAX)

In article <1992Dec8.050346.21731@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
>In article <1992Dec8.013919.5537@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> kroddos@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Jimmy Fang) writes:
>>I was watching TV this morning, watching one of those tacky home
>>shopping shows and some guy from Amstrad was demo-ing a new IBM PC
>>compatible that could also play Sega Megadrive/Genesis game cartridges.
>>
>>I really want to get one!  You can play some really cool games!
>
>I recall reading about a machine which sounds a bit like this.  It was
>in one of the console rags and was supposed to be something of an Amiga
>killer, with the apps from the IBM and the games from the Sega.  The
>unit had a Genesis motherboard and Clone motherboard, but I don't think
>that there was much of a connection between them.
>
>>The IBM side was a 386 (sales rep didn't say anything technical
>>whatsoever), so I don't know processor speed, SX or DX, hard-drive size,
>>RAM or software (apart from a collection of games).  It was running some
>>Amstrad GUI front-end.
>
>Blech, probably GEM.  They used to sell Amstrads in some of the appliance
>and electronics stores, I kept thinking they were some sort of new ST.
>
>>You plug the cartridge into a slot on the left, pull it out, and slide
>>a panel to cover up the cartidge slot.  Some GUI was running and I
>>though it might have been pre-loaded and running in the background, and
>>sliding the panel switches the monitor to clone mode.
>
>Hmm, sounds like it really is similar to the unit I heard about.  While
>this may look like a neat hack, it is a bit silly if neither side can
>use the others resources.  The Clone could certainly benefit from having
>a real CPU to assist it...  :-)
>
>>No word on price, either, but it was an interesting hack.
>>Then again, if it's more expensive than an equivalent clone box, then I
>>would get a SNES.  I could play on the SNES and let someone else use the
>>computer(s).
>
>Heck, you could probably put an SNES motherboard in a Clone case and do
>the same thing.  A neater trick might be to do the same with an Amiga
>and genlock the Amiga's output atop that of the SNES, yielding a sharper
>picture.  Or how about an interface to allow the SNES or Genesis to
>access the Amigas resources?  Of course, you'd then need software...
>
>Wow, I better cut this out before someone believes that I'm beta-testing
>one of these things...  :-)
>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Jim Fang
>>faq maintainer for comp.sys.amiga.games
>
>Skip Sauls, Amiga Advocate
>skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu
>

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Don't let the Amiga Die (Part II)!!!
From: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (Psigon Matrix....do you DOUBT us??)
Date: 19 Dec 92 12:15:35 -0600
Reply-To: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
 <Bz87p4.9t7@NeoSoft.com>,<BzFJ12.597@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

In article <BzFJ12.597@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>, papresco@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod) writes:
>>Well, 8M of RAM by itself costs about as much as an Amiga that can multitask
>>games while downloading. I used to play "Tracers" while downloading on my
>>512K Amiga 1000.
>
>Show me an Amiga for $370.00 US new.
>


Software Etc.  Amiga 600 w/ 1MB ChipRAM
               Myth, Shadow of the Beast III
               Graphics Workshop, TrueText..........$375.00 + tax



:)

Jim
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From: greendog@insti.physics.sunysb.edu (Michael D. Fischer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Power-up for AGA Machines! rumour.
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:46:35 GMT
	<1992Dec16.193138.8431@sth.frontec.se>
Organization: Institute for Theoretical Physics, SUNY at Stony Brook.

Apparently, DEC's best alpha machine currently has SpecFP92 = 182.8 and
SpecInt92 = 100.6.  So, I too would believe they will have a 200 spec
chip sometime soon, but certainly not 2000.

Mike
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From: andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Future Amiga chipsets
Date: 21 Dec 92 04:27:15 GMT
Reply-To: andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel)
Organization: Flying Cat, Inc.

In article <BzKMoy.1Mt@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> papresco@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod) writes:
>>That's not right.  In fact, that's not even wrong.  First of all, 
>>memory protection has little to do with writing to the disk.
>>For instance, the section of code that writes to the disk
>>on the Amiga is in ROM.  ROM is generally considered to be
>>rather 'protected'.
>
>You are absolutely right!  It is NOT wrong!  

10 points if you can identify the famous statement I was paraphrasing.
-10 points if you take it literally :-(

>ROM is memory.  A
>protected mode operating system can allow direct access to ROM or can
>deny it.  Without it, a program is goint to have to ask the OS for
>permission to write.

ROM is read only memory.  The OS can give permission all it wants,
but the program is not going to be able to write to the ROM.

>
>>So, lets talk about filesystems.  Generally, user programs are allowed
>>to read and write files.  This means a virus could too.
>
>True, but files are much less dangerous then writes directly to the fat
>table, or boot block, or command processor.  Besides which, in a
>protected mode operating system, you can tell the OS (if it has such
>constructs) which files to allow writes to and which ones to deny.

>>currently running user level processes.  Sure, this could protect
>>against one class of viruses, but saying that memory protection
>>prevents viruses is as ill-informed as saying that having the 
>>operating system in ROM prevents viruses.
>>
>
>I specifically said that it doesn't stop all viruses.  But writing a
>virus for such an operating system is much, much harder, and protecting
>against them is much much easier.  As long as all file transfers have
>to come through one section of the OS, that OS can be strengthened to
>virus-bust.

Let me guess...you are fairly inexperienced when it comes to computer
security issues, right ?  

My goal is not to educate anyone in formation of viruses, but
A virus program meant for a protected memory OS is not much, much
harder to create than a virus for a non-protected memory OS.  It merely
requires different techniques.  No system is secure.


			andy
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: jkh@whisker.lotus.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Subject: Re: Why my Amiga is gone
Organization: Lotus Development Ireland
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:04:00 GMT


Sorry to hear you feel that way, though not everyone feels that they
need one machine for everything.  I have a 486/33 and I have an A2500.
They both have different strengths, and I'm very happy with both.
This does not absolve Commodore from their stupidities, it just means
that some of us can still find merit in what they're producing
(despite their seeming best efforts to kill it dead).

BTW, if you don't have any compelling reason to run OS/2, I suggest
that you run 386BSD on your machine instead.  I'm typing this on the
PC in an emacs, under X windows (at 1024x768x8) with a SLIP link to
the INTERNET sending the mail when I'm done.  A very decent setup,
consider how little it cost (in comparison to a real workstation) and
I urge you to give it a shot.  True BSD won't have you missing your
multitasking, trust me! :-)

In any case, your remarks concerning Commodore were dead-on.  It is a
real pity.  I can understand your discounting Europe, since you
obviously live in the U.S., but this can't deny the fact that
Commodore is still doing brisk sales here.  The amiga still has quite
a bit of life left in it, especially as the eastern block countries
start finally putting some hard currency together and looking for
various and sundry home computers to use (I'm talking A600 and A1200
machines here, along with the cheaper 386 class machines).

I realize that none of this helps you, I'm just saying that what still
remains a very enjoyable "hackers machine" still has a 2-4 year
future.  More than that, of course, is anyone's guess.  This pleases
the few remaining amiga afficionados, if no one else.

As far as general "usefulness" is concerned, I think the PC has always
had it over the Amiga (and I'll get flamed for this, but can always
whack potential detractors with the windows software catalog - it's
HUGE! :-).  It's all in what you want it for.

					Jordan
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie)
Subject: Re: Why my Amiga is gone
Originator: torrie@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:08:40 GMT

tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:

>No, I am both an Amiga and PC user calling the personal computer market
>stagnant.

>Pick up any trade journal and compare the revenues generated in the personal
>computer industry in the last fiscal year. Compare this to a previous annual
>growth rate of 13%. 

  There's a difference between revenues and unit shipments.

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From: djkordsm@fajita.engr.ucdavis.edu (David Joseph Kordsmeier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Lets not let the Amiga DIE!!!
Date: 7 Dec 92 16:56:01 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering - University of California - Davis

Article 286 of comp.sys.amiga.announce:
From: sue@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Sue West - CATS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.announce
Subject: No Amiga in New Media Multimedia Tool Guide
Date: 4 Dec 92 20:12:27 GMT
Reply-To: sue@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Sue West - CATS)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Message-Number: 285

December 3, 1992

TO:    All Amiga Users
FROM:  Commodore Business Machines, Inc., Marketing Department
       1200 Wilson Drive
       West Chester, PA 19380

Commodore Business Machines, Inc. was recently surprised that the
magazine NEW MEDIA 1993 Multimedia Tool Guide (November issue date)
omitted covering any information on Amiga product. 

Perhaps NEW MEDIA is not aware just how many Multimedia users own
and respect Amiga product for their diverse uses?  And . . . perhaps it
would be beneficial for NEW MEDIA to have our users tell them about
Amiga and its Multimedia capabilities.

For comments to NEW MEDIA, you can write to:

David Bunnell, 
Editor in Chief
New Media Magazine
901 Mariner's Island Blvd.
Suite 365
San Mateo, CA 94404 

Phone: (415) 573-5170
FAX: (415) 573-5131

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From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Don't let the Amiga Die (Part II)!!!
Date: 11 Dec 92 08:37:37 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <jon.taylor.59.723934740@uuserv.cc.utah.edu> jon.taylor@uuserv.cc.utah.edu (JON M. TAYLOR) writes:
>
>	Why is it that people think that the Amiga MUST have high-end apps 
>(spreadsheets,word processors, etc) to be a success?  The Amiga is a game/
>hacker/video/multimedia computer!  I *like* having the Amiga treated as an 
>overgrown C-64!  Why is it somehow evil for the Amiga to have that 
>reputation?  

Well, huh, see it from Commodore's position: Wouldn't it be *nice*, if
we could have *both* worlds??? The big-number base of small machines and
a lower number of high-end machines. It's a lot more healthy for a company
when it doesn't concentrate on only one market, but can equalize seasonal
changes of one market with the profits of a different one. E.g. when I
joined Commodore many years ago, we had the C64 and VIC20 as home computers
and the CBM models as bureau computers. The home comps had ca. 10 times
the number of sold devices, but the profit from both areas was nearly
identical! As I said, it's always healthy to play on several parties.

And let's not forget one major argument: Technically, from HW and OS,
nobody can argue that the Amiga indeed *is* able to run any commercial
application, WP's and spreadsheets. Only that software isn't written in
a high enough number.

>The C-64 and the Amiga 500 were extremely successful!
                            ^^^^
Wrong:  *are*

>I wouldn't mind *at all* if the 2000,3000, and 4000 fell off the face of the 
>earth and commodore never made anything but console machines again.  

Umpf. To say the least: They make wonderful development platforms for
those games on the smaller machines...

>I know 
>that a lot of people here (usually transplants from the UNIX and DOS worlds) 
>like the high-end stuff, but face it folks, pc's can run "applications" 
>software BETTER than Amigas can.  
          ^^^^^^
That's WRONG! Why should they? Tell me one technical reason! (If someone
now comes with screen refresh rates and resolutions then let me state that
this has become better on PCs also only during the very last years, the
Amiga/Clone situation was identical before.)

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From: bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R. Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Future Amiga chipsets
Date: 15 Dec 1992 03:14:03 GMT
Organization: Electrical Engineering Dept. University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.2.33

In article <Bz9BFz.GH5@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
>wondering, because you are the only one who actually believes that Commodore
>did the right thing by using IDE in the A4000.

You know, I love it when you say things that make you look like a
totally ignorant asshole who spends way too much time cowering in a
cornfield.

At least two, if not more, exist in this world.

Greg

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From: heuvdp@cbmnl.nl.so.commodore.com (Paul Heu vd Netherlands)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Dan uploaded some OS/2 screen shots:
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:01:32 GMT
Organization: Commodore Netherlands

das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
> 
> Could you guys just make GIFs out of your desktops???

Sure.. but why?? do you have any trouble with IFF?? :^)
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From: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (Psigon Matrix....do you DOUBT us??)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,misc.test,alt.flame
Subject: Re: Falcon sucks!
Date: 12 Dec 92 07:39:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: msus1.1992Dec12.133945.1850
Reply-To: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

In article <Da3mVB5w165w@doqboz.azme.gcn.nz>, news@doqboz.azme.gcn.nz writes:
>ada@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Slu Aspiks) writes:
>
>> YOU STUPID!! YOUN ONE IS UGLY!!! FALCON IS BIRD-DOODOO!!!!  IS YOU SO 
>> NERD AND IS AN UGLY TOO!  HA! REAL THING VAPOIR!!!!!
>> 
>> GO HOME DUMB BOY!
>> 
>> WHAT SAY NOW YO DUMB FALCUNT!
>> 
>> SLU ASPIKS             SLU@NU.FSY.REK.COM
>> 
>
>Go home. Learn to spell. Find out about the capslock key.
>
>I'm glad that _most_ Amiga owners aren't mindless jerks like this twat.
>

HAHAHHA...HAHhah...and hahahah again....HAHAHAH.


Jim
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From: mikeh@starnine.com (Mike Haas)
Subject: Re:   NO MORE *&#*$(^*& FEMALE BIMBO ADS!!!!!!!!
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:19:33 GMT
Organization: StarNine Technologies, Inc.

In article <1992Dec1.214037.27948@ugle.unit.no> eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen) writes:
>In article <1992Dec1.130838.1788@msus1.msus.edu>, martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (Psigon Matrix....do you DOUBT us??) writes:
>
>[QuoteStripping(tm) software by me!]

>freedom,  remember that preventing you from doing drugs is equally restricting
>your freedom.  BUT... if you do drugs, you're only hurting yourself.  If you carry
>a gun, on the other hand, you're a potential threat to anyone who gets in range.
>In the US, guns are legal.  Drugs aren't.  Go figure.

I believe drugs should be legal as is alchohol.

Nonetheless, you said...

>...if you carry a gun, on the other hand, you're a potential threat 
>to anyone who gets in range.

Same with a baseball bat.  The range is smaller, but still easy to
bash a skull with.  Should we ban those too?

The key word in your statement is "potential" threat.  The dtermination
of whether that potentiality becomes reality is in the carrier...not the
gun.

If we prosecuted criminals, put them away as we SHOULD, there would
be a lot less violence.  We leave murderers go free EVEN IF CONVICTED
by abortions of parole...you want to lower the incidence of violence
by disarming law-abiding people?  GO FIGURE!


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From: fihsu@athena.mit.edu (Hsu I-wei)
Subject: Re: Call for Screenshots (was re: AW and Workbench)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 18:13:39 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.171125.524@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:
>In article <1992Dec13.075442.10843@athena.mit.edu> fihsu@athena.mit.edu
>(Hsu I-wei) writes:
>>Anyways, I would hope my Workbench doesn't look primitive to
>>everyone else (that includes other Amiga users ;). I run Workbench at
>>724x566 (max PAL overscan) with 4 colors..  you don't happen to have an IFF
>>viewer do you? I wouldn't mind a second opinion on the look of my Workbench.
>
>Good idea. Why not grab a snapshot of 3.0 and uuencode the GIF and mail
>it to Dan? In fact, doesn't Skip have his layout on wuarchive?
>

3.0? I'm running WB 2.x actually. Of course, if someone from C= wants to send
me 3.0, I'd be glad to make a snapshot of a 3.0 WB. :) I've seen Skip's
snapshot of his 3.0 Workbench. Looks great, but in all fairness Dan was
talking about 2.x.

Francis

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