HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: RE: Monitor recommendations?
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 20:30:11 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.18 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

wrowe@reed.edu (Wayne S. Rowe) writes:

WSR> I'm planning on buying a IIvx come October 19, but would like 
WSR> to get something bigger (or at least better) than Apple's 
WSR> ole 13" RGB. Any suggestions? Will the new Performa Plus display 
WSR> (14" right?) work with a vx?

Neither of the Performa displays are Trinitrons, while the Apple 13" RGB
HighRes is.  And the Trinitron difference is obvious.  Don't make the mistake
of buying one of the "14 inch" monitors just because they're "bigger" than the
13" (they aren't) or are cheaper.  You get what you pay for.

A week or so ago, Adam Engst in his TidBITS newsletter reported that on Oct.
19, Apple will introduce a new 13" Trinitron display that is lighter and about
$200 cheaper (retail, I suppose) than the current 13" HighRes.  I suggest that
this will be a wonderful compromise of quality and price.  If you're techie
enough to read news, you're not going to be happy with the Performa displays.

--Adam--
 
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From: mdiehr@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Michael Diehr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Price Corrections are dumb (was : QUADRA 700 FOR SALE)
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:35:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.39121
Organization: University of California, San Diego

I've noticed that in the Los Angeles area, and perhaps San Diego,               
STREET PRICES <= EDUCATIONAL PRICES.  This suprises me, but
I guess it is an indication of the heavy competition in the                  
area.                         
FYI, current Quadra 700 4/0 street $3400, edu $3450 (san diego state u)
     deskwriter C : street 525, edu $699.                                    
                                                                        
-mike      
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jkness@IASTATE.EDU (Joel K Ness)
Subject: IIsi memory upgrade
Reply-To: jkness@IASTATE.EDU (Joel K Ness)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:01:02 GMT

I am thinking of upgrading my IIsi from 5 meg RAM to 17.  There are
obviously (as seen in MacWorld) many places to order 4 M SIMMs from.

Which retailers have you, the interested reader, had the most success
from in ordering your additional memory?

I am looking at:   1. quality of product
		   2. price
		   3. product support
not neccessarily in the above order.

Please email responses.  Thanks.
--
******************************************************************************
Joel K. Ness                  Internet: jkness@iastate.edu
Aerospace Engineering and Engineering Mechanics Dept.
2064 Black Engineering
Iowa State University                   "But captain, I can't change the 
Ames, Iowa  50010                        laws of physics"--Montgomery Scott
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From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Enough PERFORMAs, what about the IIvx
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:22:54 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

dblackbu@carr11.alleg.edu (David Blackburn) writes:

>So, will there be a IIvx-CD model? Why not? 

    I would assume so. It uses the same case as the P600CD so you can
certaily buy the new Apple CD300 and install it into the drive bay.

>Or, can I put a NuBus-based FPU and cache into a P600(CD) and get the
>same? _Is_ there a NuBus cache card or does this require a dedicated
>slot?

    Well, there is an FPU slot in the P600, so adding an FPU would be
pretty easy, but the cache problem is another thing. The P600 has an
accelerator slot, that will support a card with it's own CPU, otherwise
it probably won't support regualr cache cards because it's not
configured to. As for a NuBus cache card, DayStar does make a NuBus
FastCache, but I would suggest putting something like this into the
accelerator slot, because it will probably be faster than NuBus.

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
   "You know Television has gone to hell when, with every commercial,
	 you find yourself hoping to see the Energizer Bunny."
From: erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Radius DirectColor/GX
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 13:23:31 PDT
Organization: Reigning Cats and Dogs
Reply-To: erics@infoserv.com
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry Scoggins) writes:

> I wish I could tell you for sure.  This is just what I read.  The literature
> did say it wouldn't work with the IILC.  So, go figure???

Well, just to be nit-picky about it, Radius's claim is that "Macintosh II
family" is required, and the LC is just the Macintosh LC, not the IILC.

-----
Eric Smith
erics@infoserv.com
CI$: 70262,3610
From: ngse18@castle.ed.ac.uk (J R Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Should I order a IIvi? ... any details out there?
Date: 11 Oct 92 08:38:42 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Edinburgh University


I am planning to order a Mac for my home from the si level of the range.
Actually, I was prepared to order last week, but well-founded rumour has it 
that Apple plan to announce the vi/vx range here in the UK, next Monday, 
and that the vi pricing will be similar to that of the si.  Dealers appear to 
have full information, and, apart from what has been written here, I have 
succeeded in winkling a few details out of the salespeople, but I still have 
no clear picture of what will be offered.  If the vi is the right machine for 
me, I'd like to be in a position to slap my order down first thing next week, 
to minimise any wait.  Perhaps you better-connected folks will tell me more
about what I can expect.
 
From reading this group, I understand that the IIvx is the Performa 600
engine - 33MHz 030, 4/160, 3 Nubus + accelerator slot, PSU and case capacity
for additional equipment - plus cache.  It seems reasonable to assume that the
new machines have the video hardware to drive smaller monitors, since that 
seems to be a standard feature of today's Macs.  But what, then, is the IIvi?  
One salesman indicated that it had 3 Nubus slots and a 16MHz 030 -- is this 
consistent with US rumour? 
 
Also, I gather Apple has a rather poor track record in having machines ready
for sale after product launch (yes, I know Apple is not alone in that!).  Do
any of you know how Apple's queueing system operates -- as a private buyer
purchasing through the education discount program, am I likely to wait weeks,
months, or (gulp!) years for my order to be filled?
 
Responses by mail welcomed, and any confidences respected.  But if you have
good information and are free to post, I suspect others would like to see
this specification!
 
Russ Evans
Email: As in header or use e_gs18@va.nmh.ac.uk
From: ostroff@Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: How much CAN you accellerate a Mac+?
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:57:41 GMT
Reply-To: ostroff@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

In article <1992Oct8.090428.4633@dmc.com> munroe@dmc.com (Dick Munroe) writes:
>A friend of mine wants to throw an accellerator into a Mac+.  How far can the +
>be pushed before it becomes economical to start looking at the used SE or SE/30
>market?

We just got a Brainstorm accelerator for one of our Plusses.  This is a
hardware mod which cost us $200 installed; we sent the motherboard to
800-WE-FIX-MACS.  It involves installing a faster 68000 chip (16mhz),
so you don't get the advantages of other units utilizing the 68020, 030 or 040
chips, such as FPU or MMU.  Still, what do you expect for $200?

It definitely speeds up the machine.  Text scrolls surprisingly fast.
"Speedometer" rates it at 1.89x a Classic, whereas our unmodified Plus
clocked in at .89x a Classic, so it just about doubles the speed.  So
far we haven't found any incompatibilities.

> Her immediate requirements are more memory

The Brainstorm uses the Pluses standard 4MB max.

> and a [much] faster
>processor.

You're gonna have to spend more than $200 for this, and personally I would NOT
pour that kind of money into a plus, which is only worth $350 or so on
the used market.

>  Disk I/O performance is secondary (although I'ld be willing to bet
>that once the other bottlenecks are cleared that WILL become an issue).

Sell your Plus and get something faster unless you will be satisfied with
the Brainstorm.  Its foolish to invest hundreds of dollars upgrading a
machine of that age and capability.

Just my opinion.....

.............................................................................
....Boyd Ostroff / Technical Director / SUNY Oswego Department of Theatre....
...............Voice: (315) 341-2987 /  Fax: (315) 341-3394..................
..............ostroff@oswego.oswego.edu / ostroff@cboard.UUCP................
From: j0m1247@sigma.tamu.edu (MARCOS, JULIO)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: SI to 25 MHz: What about coprocessor?
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:03:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: sigma.8OCT199212033299
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Before performing the upgrade, I 'd like to know if it is going to be OK
with my FPU: are they  both going to run at 25Mhz? 
There is no crystal for the FPU, so I guess I am not going to
have a 5Mhz difference. 

What about consumption power? My FPU is located in the Radius Color Pivot
card. Any comments?



Julio Marcos
Texas A&M University
College Station, Texas
				"Still pristine... Looking grreat!"
j0m1247@sigma.tamu.edu
From: urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Expensive Sigma repair -- what to do?
Date: 8 Oct 1992 09:52:39 +0100
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1

I have a Sigma Laserview monitor (19", B/W, variable resolution) for 1 1/2
years. It seems to have developed a slightly unstable power supply; the
visible effect is an intermittent 1" horizontal jitter.

To fix this, my dealer had to send it to whoever is doing the repairs for
Sigma in Germany. Apparently, they want to swap the whole electronics and
they want a whooping DM 1200 (the equivalent of $800) for it.

Now this strikes me as somewhat expensive. Is there a way around it?
(A circuit diagram of the beast would probably help; does anybody have
one of these?) Is the problem, and/or a less expensive cure, known?
Is Sigma on the net?

Any help is appreciated.

-- 
Don't worry over what other people are thinking about you.  They're too
busy worrying over what you are thinking about them.
-- 
Matthias Urlichs  --  urlichs@smurf.sub.org -- urlichs@smurf.ira.uka.de   /(o\
Humboldtstrasse 7 -- 7500 Karlsruhe 1 -- Germany  --  +49-721-9612521     \o)/
From: werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Hard drive case market stinks!!
Date: 7 Oct 1992 16:00:35 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: dimebox.cs.utexas.edu



	noone likes it, but with a little effort, you "can do"...

	ask around for people with broken old hard-drives; lots
	of those around (DataFrames, Jasmines, Peaks, ...)
	offer $20;  advertise if you must...

	check in salvage electronic places (mail-order; local only
	if you live in Sillicon Gulch or some other "hot" place, else
	prices are going to be just as ridiculous); pay no more than $50

	get a PC-tower or case; all you need is power, most likely;
	only very old drives don't have the SCSI-controller board
	integrally attached...

	if you have no hardware hacking experience at all, join a user
	group and "make friends"  (matter of fact, everyone should
	join one or the other users group; BMUG and BCS work very
	well with people on remote islands even ... ;-)

	don't get discouraged; try and try again ... :-))
-- 
  werner@cs.utexas.edu |  ..!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!werner | werner@UTXVM.bitnet

              "Free Advice and Opinions -- Refunds Available"
From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Powerbook batteries
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:21:18 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Amos Tuck School

In <23026@galaxy.ucr.edu> judson@watserv.ucr.edu (Michael Judson) writes:

>Do the batteries for the Powerbook 160/180 work in a Powerbook 145/175,
>and how about the Duos?

No way to be sure before Oct. 19th but one Apple rep I spoke to recently
told me to expect the 160 and 180 to use the same battery as the
140/145/170 series.

He wasn't sure about the Duo's.

-Geoff
--
geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU - Computing Support Consultant, Tuck School of Business

  If I had a choice between George Bush and a goat I would vote for the goat.
                            Vote Goat in 92!
From: peterco@eff.org (Peter Cohen)
Subject: Re: Woz in apple ad?
Originator: peterco@eff.org
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 03:00:27 GMT

Kevin Purcell (a-kevinp@microsoft.com) wrote:
: It is fanshionable to denigrate Steve Jobs, as he wasn't either a software
: or hardware hacker. But he was essential to Apple in for sveral things
: that he did.
: 
: He was the driving force behind building more machines (Woz thought it
: was cool to take the Apple I down to the Homebrew Computer Club and show
: off the neat hacks).
: 
: The most revealing story was when the decided to form Apple, the company.
: They already had the design for an "insanely great" machine but
: Woz was very hesitant to sell his VW van and a HP calculator to generate
: some of the money. He even said no to Mike Markula, but Jobs persuaded him
: to change his mind the next day. Without the Woz, they may not have
: succeded.
: 
: And one shouldn't forget that Jobs was the driving force behind the Mac
: which is promoted against a lot of internal opposition (including that
: of the Woz). 
: 
: He may have an uppleasant personality, but if he wasn't there I doubt Apple 
: have happened. 
: 
: Woz was a good engineer, he generated some neat hacks (software as well as
: hardware).This God-like reverence was the reason he went back to school
: under an alias.
: 
: 
: Finally, although there is an element of luck invloved, keeping a business
: together during explosive growth is no mean feat. I used to think Bill Gates
: just got lucky, but after seeing MS from the inside I no longer beleive that.
: 
: In a parallel universive Woz has a 9 to 5 job with HP and Steve Job's is
: a used car salesman ...
: 
: My references:
: 
: 1. Fire in the Valley, Micheal Swain
: 2. West of Eden, author?
: 3. Hackers, Steven Levy
: 4. Steve Job's biography (title of which escapes me)
: 
: Kevin Purcell
: a-kevinp@microsoft.com
: My views are often orthogonal to those of Microsoft Corp
-- 
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| peterco@eff.org | Heck!  My employer doesn't even know I'm here! |
+-----------------+------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry Scoggins)
Subject: Re: Radius DirectColor/GX
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 07:00:52 GMT

ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) sayz:
>jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry Scoggins) writes:
>>The DirectColor/GX *will* work with the IIsi provided you have the NuBus
>>adapter.  This information is from the latest Radius documentation.
>
>Hm.  What the sales droid told me was that the DirectColor/GX would
>not work on a IIsi with a Nubus adapter.  He was reading this from
>an online product description and perhaps misread "without" as "with."
>Or maybe someone mistyped it into the system that way.
>
>I assumed, when he told me that, that the problem was the old IIsi
>power limitation thing.

I wish I could tell you for sure.  This is just what I read.  The literature
did say it wouldn't work with the IILC.  So, go figure???

++jerry(); // jscoggin@netcom.netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: sasmam@cbtdemo.unx.sas.com (Mike Monaco)
Subject:  PERFORMA 600 ?? WHEN???? 
Originator: sasmam@cbtdemo.unx.sas.com
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:18:17 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.



 
I called SEARS today and they told me the Performa 600's will not
be in stock until NOVEMBER 25 .... I ordered mine in  septmember ..


IS SEARS snowing me or has apple snowed me !!!!


Does anybody have any information on if the 600's have been
delayed ???????


Thanks,

Michael Monaco
"sasmam@unx.sas.com"
"mamonaco@eos.ncsu.edu"
From: munroe@dmc.com (Dick Munroe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: How much CAN you accellerate a Mac+?
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:04:27 EDT
Organization: Doyle, Munroe Consultants, Inc., Hudson, MA

A friend of mine wants to throw an accellerator into a Mac+.  How far can the +
be pushed before it becomes economical to start looking at the used SE or SE/30
market?  Her immediate requirements are more memory and a [much] faster
processor.  Disk I/O performance is secondary (although I'ld be willing to bet
that once the other bottlenecks are cleared that WILL become an issue).
-- 
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Doyle Munroe Consultants, Inc.		UUCP: ...uunet!thehulk!munroe
267 Cox St.				Office: (508) 568-1618
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GET CONNECTED!!! Send mail to info@dmc.com to find out about DMConnection.
From: pentangl@spdcc.com (Scott Moir)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Let's talk Performas, Boys and Girls
Date: 16 Oct 92 10:28:08 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

MacUser states in its review of the Performa series that they are 16 bit 
machines. Proof enough?


-- 
Scott Moir / Pentangle / Satyr ______ # "There's really only one requirement 
pentangl@Ursa-Major.spdcc.com  \ \/ / #  for a Prophet, and you've got it."
B4 f t+ w g k+(+) s+ m r p+     \/\/  # "What's that?"
These are my opinions, not SPDCC's    # "A mouth." - 'God' to J.R.'BoB' Dobbs
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Duo 210/230 difference
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:24:31 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Distribution: na
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

craig_williams@qmgate.fnal.gov (Craig Williams) writes:

>I'm a little unclear here. I've looked through several back issues of
>MacWeek but am unable to find a clear definition of the features on the
>Duos.
>Is the only difference between the 210/230 is the 25/33 MHz clock speed?

    According to all of the information that I have read about them,
yes, that appears to be the only difference.

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
   "You know Television has gone to hell when, with every commercial,
	 you find yourself hoping to see the Energizer Bunny."
From: tjfs@tadtec.uucp (Tim Steele)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PB100 memory installation directions
Date: 17 Oct 92 03:26:20 GMT
Organization: Tadpole Technology plc

I posted 'em last week!

Tim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: washburn@possum.den.mmc.com (Tom Washburn)
Subject: MAC security - Empress h/w?
Summary: request vendor for mac empress h/w
Keywords: mac security empress
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics, Denver
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:38:23 GMT

I have recently heard of MAC h/w that improves security of the single
user MAC.  It's called Empress (or maybe its spelled M-press or
Impress).  It's supposed to force a boot from the hard disk and a login
and password.  It's also supposed to come with software that apparently
prevents changes to the system folder.

Anyways, I'm looking for the vendor of 'Empress'.

Has anyone heard of such a product???

Any hints are greatly appreciated.......

~A
From: Rick_McCormack@mindlink.bc.ca (Rick McCormack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Price Corrections are dumb (was : QUADRA 700 FOR SALE)
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:29:30 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Guy walks into a wine store, and sez:
"how much for a bottle of '74 Moet & Chandon?"

Clerk looks up:
"$29.95 a bottle, $299.00 a case."

Guy sez:
"Down the street, its only $24.95 a bottle."

Clerk answers:
"So, buy it down the street already!"

Guy sez:
"I can't. They are out of stock."

Clerk sighs, sez:
"Well that's not a very good deal anyway! When I'm out of stock I sell it for
$21.95 a bottle."
--

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From: ibhan@husc8.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: These new Powerbooks?????
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:20:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc8.ibhan.718989647

Brennan.J.Murphy.53@nd.edu (BRennan Murphy) writes:

>I want a powerbook but I have heard mixed reviews about the new ones
>coming out..Some say they are not much better. They say the screen is the
>only improvement.  Is it worth waiting for the new ones?  I heard that
>Powerbooks have problems with their disk drives.  Does anyone have this
>problem?
>I need some advice here---come on all you mac lovers--tell me how it is.
>Is there any speculation as to the price opf the new ones?  Will they be
>cheaper and better?  

Having greyscale (which the new PB's do) is a major advantage as far as
I'm concerned.  They also have video out ports.  Since they will be out in
less than 1 week, I'd wait.
-- 
             --      Ishir Bhan (ibhan@husc.harvard.edu)      --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: mvivino@helix.nih.gov (Mark A Vivino)
Subject: Re: Mac NTSC Output?
Organization: National Institutes of Health
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:16:36 GMT

In article <Bvz9rL.DCJ@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, deitrich@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Dave Deitrich) writes:
> Could someone give me a run down on available hardware for converting and 
> outputting standard Mac video signals to NTSC format?  I've seen it done so
> I know it's possible, but I'm not really sure what you need to do it.  
> I've got a standard no-thrills Mac IIci if that helps any.  If you have any
> info on prices that would be wonderful too.  Thanks much in advance!

I've been fooling with this myself, and have learned a few things the hard way.

First do NOT, I say do NOT, buy the RasterOps video expander. 
This puts out shaky terrible horrible quality NTSC and S.

Second, the output of the built in quadra and other mac video isn't 
any better if you have the right cable.

Third, TrueVision has something that is expensive and not very good.

Forth and possiblely the only working solution is Radius VideoVision. 
You can get an auto FAX on this product by calling 1-800-966-7360, 
enter product 0355 when asked. I haven't tested it but the literature 
says it is flicker free unlike all the competition. If this is true
than they are ahead of all the competition.

Mark
mvivino@helix.nih.gov