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From: xrjdm@twinpeaks.gsfc.nasa.gov (Joseph D. McMahon)
Subject: Re: Shocked ...
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:09:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.183018.21589@research.nj.nec.com>, yoko@research.nj.nec.com (Yoko Ozawa) writes:
> eric_gorr@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu (Eric Gorr) wrote:
> 
>          ...In other words, I don't think Sir Doyle promoted use of
> drugs in any way.
> 
Yes, this is quite correct. Sir Arthur did not condone the casual use of drugs
at all.

> 
> > Yes, I am aware that there is either very little or no mention of it
> > in later novels and stories - allowing us to assume that he "kicked"
> > the habit.  Thank goodness.  
> 
> Actually, Holmes' use of drugs are mentioned in quite a few places, he
> went through fits of depression (usually, immediately after a great and
> stimulating case was solved) when he would reach for his "stuff".
> Also, he often crawled into opium dens to sleuth.
I'm afraid that you are not correct. The cocaine is mentioned in exactly one
tale. There are no further mentions. As to sleuthing in opium dens, recall 
that in "The Man with the Twisted Lip" that Holmes was in disguise and 
*pretending* to be under the influence - note his quick apprehension that
Watson was there and his meeting with him soon after.

> 
> > Did Arthur Conan Doyle use drugs at one
> > time?  What that the reason for the appearence in the novel?
> 
> I'm not one for historical accuracy, so someone correct me if I'm
> wrong, but I believe Doyle was from the school of "artists" in the
> 19th century that was heavily into hallucinogetics of one kind or
> another...
Sit Arthur was a respected physician become a writer because it paid better.
He was a quintessential Englishman, and a bit stuffy.

It should be noted that during the early years of the detective novel that 
authors tended to give their creations distinctive habits which would 
often disappear over time - witness Holmes's vanishing cocaine addiction
and his acquisition of astronomical knowledge (vs. his claim in "A Study
in Scarlet" that he did not know that the earth revolved around the sun), 
and Lord Peter Wimsey's apparent realization that English lords don't all
talk like Bertie Wooster. :-)

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From: ccgwt@trentu.ca (Grant Totten)
Subject: Re: So, which Holmes is it?
Reply-To: ccgwt@trentu.ca (Grant Totten)
Organization: Trent University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:32:20 GMT


>>In article <1992Sep9.160010.25061@trentu.ca>,
>>	ccgwt@trentu.ca (Grant Totten) writes:

>>					.....  I am currently reading
>>the 'complete Sherlock Holmes' and Jeremy Brett is the person speaking
>>in my head while I read.  

>Perhaps reading "the 'complete Sherlock Holmes'" is the only way, but:
>if a (real) person speaks in one's head, does this mean you've seen
>the films before you have read anything of Doyle?
>Perhaps I have too much fantasy, but NO actor will ever reach my imaginations.
>
>	uli
>--
>OOOO--Open-Object-Oriented-Ogre


Good point!  In retrospect, I think I imagined him quite different than
now.  Gradually, Jeremy Brett has 'become' Holmes to me.

Last night, "The Red Headed League".  I don't remember in the story Mr. Jabez
Wilson being quite so annoying!  :)  Both Holmes and Watson seemed to be more
than a little annoyed with him.  I especially liked the little look that passed
between them when Mr. Wilson was reciting a bunch of the things he learned while
copying the Encyclopedia Britannica!  Great fun!  :)

Funny, though...  I don't remember Moriarty being in the story...  Oh well,
guess I'll have to go back and read it again.  (Gee, life's tough :)


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From: rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Rao V. Akella)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
Subject: Re: A&E Sherlock Holmes Week
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:27:00 GMT
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In article <ROBERTS.92Sep10144831@studguppy.lanl.gov>, roberts@studguppy.lanl.gov (Doug Roberts) writes:
>  
> In article <16865@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> beard@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (Patrick C. Beard) writes:
>  
> > I have to agree. He's the perfect acetic, drug-addicted, intense man that I
> > always visualized 
>  
> Let's not forget affectated, pompous, arrogant, and either asexual or
> slightly effeminate (I can't quite make up my mind).

"Affectated?"  As in "an assumed or contrived manner of behaviour?"  I don't
think so, since such action would be alien to his perfectly analytical soul. 
"Pompous and arrogant?"  I think you can put that down simply to the inability
of most brilliant men to tolerate fools.

-- Rao Akella    <rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu, rao%moose@umnacvx.bitnet>

"Detection is, or ought to be, an exact science, and should be treated in the
same cold and unemotional manner.  You have attempted to tinge it with
romanticism, which produces much the same effect as if you worked a love-story
or an elopement into the fifth proposition of Euclid."  -- "The Sign of Four"
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From: larry@bradley.bradley.edu (L. D. Stratton)
Subject: Re: 221-B Baker Street
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 16:52:06 GMT

In <1992Sep15.161207.19241@news2.cis.umn.edu> jill@gopher.ccbr.umn.edu (Jill Hollifield) writes:

>In article <1992Sep14.205627.17179@nntp.uoregon.edu> eric_gorr@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu (Eric Gorr) writes:
>>This may be a rather silly question, but oh well.
>>
>>currently located at that address.
>>
>>
>Yes, its still there, near Regent's Park, and I believe there's a bank
>on that spot there now.  There was about 4 years ago, anyway.  There are
>a couple of touristy, Holmes-theme pubs nearby, too.

   221-b is on the second floor and is (was?) the address of an insurance
   broker.  They make it a part of their business to answer letters addressed
   to Mr. Holmes.  Very nice people.
From: hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mathew A. Hennessy)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
Subject: Somebody asked about A&E's LOVEJOY..
Date: 14 Sep 92 01:08:22 GMT
Organization: UB


	I know this really doesn't belong strictly here, but since someone
asked about the Lovejoy episodes, I gotta say I really enjoy them.. Ian
Mcshane is really amusing as an inspired scoundrel.. I haven't read the books
but if the irrepressible Lovejoy I know from A&E is in them I shall have to
keep an eye out for them.. 

	Thank goodness for A&E!  gone from the WWII channel to the mystery
channel I appreciate the change..  oh I prefer Jeremy Brett because he's the
only Holmes portrayal which shows the more arrogant, obnoxious side to his
character.  If I wanted sugarcoated niceguy detectives, I'd go with
Encyclopedia Brown.. 8)

	Now if only A&E would get the Suchet Poirots and Rumpole my life would
be complete.. (I think buffalo public tel carries Rumpole, but not mystery.
please correct me if I am wrong, I wish I was.. )

adieu, 

-- 
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From: mjra@usno05.nor.chevron.com (Mike Raymond)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
Subject: Re: Lists
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:29:14 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <brian_vickers-110992090748@137.79.110.112>, brian_vickers@isd.jpl.nasa.gov (Brian Vickers) writes:
|> There is also a 'complete works' on CD-ROM.
|> 
|> -- Brian
|> brian_vickers@isd.jpl.nasa.gov
The complete works are also available on the Sony "Bookman" as part of the Library of the Future, Vol 1.
-- 
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From: linley@qucis.queensu.ca (Richard Linley)
Subject: Re: My favorite edition
Organization: Computing & Information Science, Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:24:59 GMT

In article <VSUMMERS.92Sep15081208@polaris.cv.nrao.edu> vsummers@polaris.cv.nrao.edu (Vince Summers) writes:
>In article <1992Sep15.025740.2401@sdcrsi.cray.com> kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com (the Rev. Mom) writes:
>
>   Complete?...Well, lessee... [flip flip]...
>
>   Study in Scarlet
>   The Sign of Four
>   [others omitted]
>
>I don't see the novel in your list that talks about the Mormons.

It was A Study In Scarlet, Part 2, The Country of the Saints.  The Mormons
start off sounding charitable enough but end up downright nasty.  Can anyone
tell this ignorant Canuck how close/way-off Doyle was on the early government
of Salt Lake City?  Was this really just Mormon-bashing?

	Richard.
From: rxv9839@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: A&E Sherlock Holmes Week
Reply-To: rxv9839@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 06:15:39 GMT

Surely Basil Rathbone has Jeremy beat by a country mile, or at least
several hundred feet.
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From: misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel)
Subject: Holmes asexual?
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 20:40:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.153534.4535@nmsu.edu>, pfeiffer@nmsu.edu (Joe Pfeiffer) writes:

> Holmes is deliberately drawn as almost entirely one-dimensional.  Not 
> gay, not straight, but entirely asexual.

   Holmes asexual?  I think not.

   At the end of _The Sign of Four_, when Watson announces his 
engagement, Holmes says:  "I should never marry, myself, lest I bias
my judgement."  (I'm quoting from memory.)

   If he were asexual, his judgement would not have been at risk!

misrael@csi.uottawa.ca			Mark Israel
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From: Jem.Lewis@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Jem Lewis)
Subject: Re: 221-B Baker Street
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:36:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.205627.17179@nntp.uoregon.edu> eric_gorr@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu (Eric Gorr) writes:
>This may be a rather silly question, but oh well.
>
>Anyone know if there really is a 221-B Baker Street in London and what is
>currently located at that address.
>


	If memory serves me correctly, there really is a Baker Street, but
221-B wasn't on it until several  years after Doyle wrote his Holmes stories.
As for what is on it now, I have no idea.

>Thanx

You're welcome.

		Jem Lewis   jlewis@polar.bowdoin.edu
			
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From: misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel)
Subject: homosexuality
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 05:40:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.232004.20140@news2.cis.umn.edu>, kencham@ulysses.cs.umn.edu (Deepak R. Kenchammana-Hosekote) writes:

> The issue of homosexuality, albeit not brought in the open, lurks in 
> the background and the impression I got was that in the Victorian days
> of SH there was nothing 'queer' about being a queer.

   Oscar Wilde was jailed for it (convicted under the same statute as
Alan Turing).

   Billy Wilder's film _The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes_ (there
was a novelization by Michael Hardwick, not to be confused with the
book of the same title by Vincent Starret) has one scene that suggests
Holmes and Watson had a homosexual relationship.  (The suggestion is
refuted later in the film.)  The film provoked widespread outrage
among Holmes fans at the time.  You can read about the controversy
in _The Sherlock Holmes Scrapbook_.

> If anyone has the time, RHFKeating makes a detailed analysis of 
> JSSH-JHW's homosexual relationship in his book _SH, The Man and his 
> Life_.

   What does "JSSH" stand for?  Some_name Sherlock Scott Holmes, I 
gather?

misrael@csi.uottawa.ca			Mark Israel
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From: kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com (the Rev. Mom)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
Subject: Re: Shocked ...
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:07:00 GMT
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> Ann.Feeney@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Ann Feeney) writes:
>I recall reading an interview with Jeremry Brett (okay, okay, interview
>_of_), in which he said that he wanted to depict Holmes as breaking the
>habit of cocain use.
>
>I don't get to watch the series as often as I'd like--did this ever happen?

Yup.  "The Devil's Foot", being filmed as a tale of drug abuse :-)
served as the perfect opportunity for them to slip this in.
There was a scene with Holmes (recovering from what was implicitly
a physical collapse from dug abuse), walking along a beach and
then burying his hypodermic needle and a vial of 7% solution.

Just as a note for anybody else who grabbed Holmes episodes off
of the Disney Channel, Disney took a slice out of the beginning
of "A Scandal in Bohemia" so that Watson's first line ("What is
it today, Holmes? Morphine?--Or Cocaine?") disappeared.  The A&E
airing didn't. (Although A&E averages about 45 minutes of
program/hour, and the Holmes episodes have been over 50 minutes
on PBS, so they must be making *some* cuts.)

--Kathy Li, madwoman with a vcr.

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From: jill@gopher.ccbr.umn.edu (Jill Hollifield)
Subject: Re: 221-B Baker Street
Organization: Coordinating Centers For Biometric Research, University of Minnesota
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:12:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.205627.17179@nntp.uoregon.edu> eric_gorr@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu (Eric Gorr) writes:
>This may be a rather silly question, but oh well.
>
>Anyone know if there really is a 221-B Baker Street in London and what is
>currently located at that address.
>
>Thanx...
>
>

Yes, its still there, near Regent's Park, and I believe there's a bank
on that spot there now.  There was about 4 years ago, anyway.  There are
a couple of touristy, Holmes-theme pubs nearby, too.
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From: dsmythe@netcom.com (Dave Smythe)
Subject: Re: Other Holmes I have seen!
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 07:41:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Sep11.025059.20145@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> swalter@nyx.cs.du.edu (DreamWeaver) writes:
>Does anybody know if only 8 episodes (or maybe six, as "the Sign of Four"
>was 2 hours) were made with this _wonderful_ Holmes pair?

I have 19 separate ones on tape so far.  The latest, I believe, is
"The Disappearance of Lady Carfax," or something close to that, that
was shown as the first of the coming new season.  The date in the
closing credits was 1990.

D

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From: trifid@agora.rain.com (Roadster Racewerks)
Subject: Re: Sherlock's secret love-life Was: So, which Holmes is it?
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:07:28 GMT

In article <unixwiz.716098471@mcl> unixwiz@mcl.ucsb.edu (Silk) writes:
>If I remember correctly, in one of the stories involving Moriarity, Holmes
>was in love with a young lady...anyone remember which one?
>
>Silk
>unixwiz@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu



Doyle was at times very inconsistant about his characters' finer details. In
his references to Watson he seems to have forgotten about his first wife at
some point (probably when he got bored and tried to kill the stories) and where
his old gunshot wound was, leaving real die-hard Holmes/Watson fans making
up all sorts of scenarios as to how there could be two Mrs. Watsons. (I think
he was a bigamist, myself...;-> and that he had been wounded more than once in
India. Doyle also got Holmes' bathrobe color wrong...and other little things.
After all, the series ran for *years*, and was so popular Doyle had to make up
a way to bring Holmes back from the grave...

I say, give Doyle a break... (but then I'm not one of those fans who write
letters to the Baker Street address after all these years...)

As for Holmes' studied disregard for women, women were pretty much disregarded
throughout the Victorian/Edwardian era (except for the Queen herself) by most
men when it came to anything more practical than hand-kissing. (This was the
era of horrible sweat-shops full of women and fairly young children...) Watson
was an idealist in that regard. 

(Ok, so I was kidding about the bigamy..  :-)

Suze

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From: torkel@sics.se (Torkel Franzen)
Subject: Re: A&E Sherlock Holmes Week
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:20:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.141721.8209@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> tom@arthur.jsc.nasa.gov
 (Tom Robinson) writes:

   >I've always though that
   >Jeremy Brett is the quintessential Holmes... opinions?

  I emphatically agree that Jeremy Brett is by far the best Holmes to
have appeared.  Not only that, but his Watson - I forget the actor's name -
is by far the best Watson.

   >Incidently... I've been wondering when this group would appear.  Now
   >then, does anyone out there like Lovejoy too?

  Lovejoy is pretty good.

Xref: sparky alt.fan.holmes:162 alt.sex:29227
From: Ann.Feeney@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Ann Feeney)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes,alt.sex
Subject: Re: Sherlock's secret love-life Was: So, which Holmes is it?
Date: 13 Sep 92 20:19:22 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

>
>>Watson was married _twice_.  While this in itself does not make him exclusively
>Hmm.. I know he married the heroin of "The Sign of Four" -- Miss Morstan.  But
>where is there mention of his 2nd marriage ?

Had to take advantage of this!
If Holmes was a cocaine addict, this might indicate that Watson was a
heroin(e) addict!

(It's a typo that I've made _thousands_ of times, and couldn't resist the
pun in this context.)

Ann
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From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: Why Brett is soooo goooood.....
Keywords: jeremy bret love-fest
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 11:07:33 GMT

In article <naran.716068777@sfu.ca> naran@fraser.sfu.ca (Travers Naran) writes:
>Brett once said in an interview he deliberately tried to add depth to these
>legend. He was right to do so, I never watched the other guy who did Holmes
>(nor for that manner, any Sherlock Holmes movie/TV show/etc.) But my first
>exposure outside of an occasional TV reference or parody was reading an actual
>Holmes novel, "The Hound of the Baskervilles."

As you'll soon discover, this is actually not the best one to read for a 
portrait of Holmes.  As someone put it, the story drives Holmes rather than
Holmes driving the story.

>To me, from the novel, I
>gathered the following facts:
>
>1. Watson was quite a clever man. Not the dullard as portrayed by Bruce in
>those 1940's and 50's shows. In fact, he seemed to be almost an intellectual
>equal with Holmes except having more emotion.

The Nigel Bruce portrayal of Watson has been aptly described as _Boobus
britannicus_.

>2. Holmes was not cold, logic. He was logic with a fierceness, concern and
>compassion but all kept calmly in place. Very Spock'ish I thought when I read
>the novel. Also, what caught my mind and made me a Holmes fan was the apparent
>sense of humour he had and that he was quite human and liking a flare for the
>dramatic, as in his revealing his presence on the moor to Watson.
>
>3. The storiesd were amazingly logical and fluid, but not in anyway a boring
>read. The observations on human nature were quite amazing to me.

Well, actually there are lots of inconsistencies and lapses both among the
stories and within individual stories.  These have kept and are continuing to
keep Sherlockian scholars busy.

>I haven't read any of the other Holnme stories because my local library's
>copies are forever out of the library and I am too cheap to reserve them. I am
>thinking of reading the Sign of Four, the Short Stories and several other of
>Doyle's works.

You should definitely seek out a copy of _The Annotated Sherlock Holmes_
by William S. Baring-Gould.  For one thing, the stories are arranged in
their deduced chronological order instead of order of publication with
dates assigned and explained.  And then there are the notes and longer
articles.  I liked it so much that I bought a copy.

-- Herb Huston

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From: nik@csgi63.dcs.leeds.ac.uk (Nik Silver)
Subject: Damned fine show!
Organization: School of Computer Studies, University of Leeds
Distribution: scs
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:36:59 GMT
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Damned fine to get some more culture on the net'. For the record I used to
love the old Basil Rathbone films and wasn't ?? Bruce a hoot? And then I
read the books and realised what it was really about... but then I was young
at the time.

The best Holmes I've seen (IMHO) is Jeremy Brett's but was *very* impressed
with the recent BBC 2 play in which Conan Doyle and Holmes meet. Holmes was
played by Richard E. Grant, and it was a good performance.

But one thing has always puzzled me, and I wonder if anyone out there knows
the answer? Holmes's last case is called (something like) ``The Case of the
Colour Man''. In it, we are not given details of either the colour man's
trade or appearance. So my question is: What is a colour man? This has vexed
me for a long time, because I don't know if Conan Doyle was refering coyly
to a `coloured man' or just someone who mixed paints for a living. It perplexes
me.

Anyway, I look forward to lots of good traffic.

--
Nik ``nik@scs.leeds.ac.uk'' Silver
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From: pfeiffer@nmsu.edu (Joe Pfeiffer)
Subject: Re: So, which Holmes is it?
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<1992Sep9.152835.13624@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:35:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.152835.13624@news2.cis.umn.edu> kencham@ulysses.cs.umn.edu (Deepak) writes:

   Hope there is enough enthusiasm.For starters, any comments on the .sig ?


   Sherlock Holmes observed that ".. After you have eliminated the impossible, only the possible, however improbable, remains..". I, however, do not like to elimin-
   ate the impossible. And so I believe, Holmes and Watson were gays.

Are you obliquely trying to say it was impossible for Holmes and
Watson to have been gay?  I'd say it's pretty unlikely; Watson was
married (twice) and Holmes is deliberately drawn as almost entirely
one-dimenional.  Not gay, not straight, but entirely asexual.

While anything is possible (since I've never read anything Doyle had
to say on the matter), to me the theory that they were gay comes from
people unable to conceive of a close friendship between men that
aren't gay.

-Joe.
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