From: kv07@IASTATE.EDU (Warren Vonroeschlaub)
Subject: Re: Genesis - fact or fiction
Followup-To: talk.religion.misc,talk.origins
Reply-To: kv07@IASTATE.EDU (Warren Vonroeschlaub)
Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 18:50:23 GMT

This was posted to talk.religion.misc.  Sorry, I have a feeling the arguments
this guy gives are four days older than water, but at least this thing can be
hit while it is mall enough.  Followups to both t.r.m and t.o.

In article <sbuckley.714449558@sfu.ca>, sbuckley@fraser.sfu.ca (Stephen Buckley)
writes:
> Mike Serafin writes:
> 
> >Paal Steinar Berg writes:
> 
> >>In my view the genisis is a simple explanation for the people living
thousands of
> >>years ago, and must be looked upon in that way. I believe that the
evolusionists
> >>have a better explanation of the way it realy happened..
> >>
> >>
> >>Paal....
> 
> >I, being a scientist, once believed that evolution had all the answers. 
But,
> >evolution presents some gross inconsistencies with modern scientific laws. 
> >Evolution requires that all matter somehow came together to form life.  The 
> >law of entropy states that all systems will tend toward a state of maximum 
> >entropy (maximum disorganization).  If this law is valid, then how, without
> >some outside force, did matter come together to form life?
> 
>   until 2 days ago, i was quite uninformed about the scientific evidence
> that blew evolution to pieces.  but 2 days ago i found the following book.
> 
>   in the book _In The Beginning_ [Walter T. Brown, Jr., 5th edition,
(Phoenix:
> Center for Scientific Creation, 1989)] Brown shows that in 127 areas, based
on
> evolutionists' data and quoted conclusions, the theory of organic evolution
> is invalid, secondly, the universe, the solar system, the earth, and life
> were recently created and thirdly that the earth has experienced a worldwide
> flood.
> 
>   each of the three above statements dealing with the life sciences, 
> astronomical sciences and earth sciences are divided each into three main
> arguments:
> 
>   organic evolution:
> 	- organic evolution has never been observed
> 	- the arguments for evolution are outdated and often illogical
> 	- new research shows that life is so complex that chance processes
> 		and even billions of years cannot explain it
> 
>   the universe...:
> 	- naturalistic explanations for the evolution of the solar system
> 		and universe are unscientific and hopelessy inadequate
> 	- techniques that argue for an old earth are either illogical or
> 		are based on unreasonable assumptions
> 	- most dating techniques indicate that the earth, the solar system,
> 		and the universe are young.
> 
>   that flood thing:
> 	- archaelogical evidence indicates that Noah's Ark probably exists
> 	- many of the earth's previously unexplainable features can be
> 		explained by a cataclysimic flood
> 	- the seemingly impossible events of a worldwide flood
> 		are really quite plausible if examined closely
> 
> 
>   now i haven't gone through all the sources for the 127 points that
> lead to the above conclusions, and i've decided to not bother.  enough
> of them are sound and enough are actually quoted that i'm not going to 
> go to the effort to check them all, especially when many are from 
> darwin himself, and many of the most reputable scientific journals that
> have ever existed.  initially i was concerned that Brown was merely
> drawing his own conclusions based on potentially ambiguous data, but 
> he is merely compiling evolutionists' conclusions from relevant fields
> within the earth, life and astronomical sciences based on their own data.
> i don't suppose this book represents an exhaustive list of all evolutionists'
> attempts to verify evolution and the big bang that ended up supporting 
> those theories invalidity, but based even on only about 20-25 of the 127
> cases, one can easily see the invalidity of these theories.
> 
>   not surprisingly this book may be hard to find, tho any reputable
> scientific bookstore ought to have it in stock if you check.  if not,
> i've found it in christian bookstores and it can be ordered from the 
> publisher:
> 
>   Center for Scientific Creation
>   5612 N. 20th Place
>   Phoenix, AZ
>   85016
> 
>                  it's $9.00 + 10% shipping. 

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