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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: RE: ANIME EXPO O'DEATH '93
From: grey@buster.sfsu.edu (Herbert Leong)
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:22:20 PDT

In article <9208272043.AA18164@tmcpcnet.tmc.edu>  writes:
> Grey? You mean, as in "Grey Death?"
> Oakland is a big city, and caution is the word going anywhere at night.
> Berkeley has the highest crime rate of any university in the country,
> but that never stopped Cal-Animage. And if you want a hassle, try
> exiting BART from Berkeley. I've ridden the light rails since I was 11,
> without the need to pack a strap or a vest. Besides, when you think
> "anime fan," you picture someone who's got the 'gauge, the UZI, and the
> nickel-plated .22, so we're pretty well-covered there. Like I said, roll
> in a strong otaku posse.
> 
> The Bay Area is the land promised to us, and by no means exclude
> Oakland.
> 
> 
> --Carl "Straight Outta Long Beach" Horn
	Well, I kinda had that name before the comic came out in the US (I  
don't know about Japan)  but it was kinda funny when it did come out since  
I did fit the description vaguely (Chinese, psychotic, etc. :).

	But anyway, yeah, walking down the streets of Berkeley is not very  
fun when your in uniform.  I remember one time we were walking drill comp.  
and one of the platoon leaders who had a sword was joking, "I'll protect  
you!  I have a sword!  Not very sharp, but I'll blind them with the chrome  
plating!!!"   This was right after we were accosted by a person who was  
wearing a loin-cloth.  That did not bother us, it was the fact that  
he/she/it was green.  literally.  Covered in green dye from head to  
shoeless toe.  Ranting and raving about us being "miserable solders"

	The reason why I mentioned Oakland in such a bad light was that I  
was approached several times (uniform=money) by hookers, their pimps,  
taxies, bums, and this one hippie who was actually kinda cute (she could  
not have been more than 19:) as well as fairly polite (for someone who was  
telling me to desert :).  And all I was doing was standing at a bus stop,  
going home from the Alameda after trying to get a replacement ID card!!   
Sheesh.  btw, this was around 1 or 2 in the afternoon.	

	Comparing the two cities, I would say Berkeley is dirtier with  
Oakland being more dangerous.

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From: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: US Renditions Direct Order (and Macross II)
Date: 3 Sep 92 02:54:32 GMT
Reply-To: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


So, has anyone seen USR's dubbed Orguss or Guyver?  I see lots of
discussion about their Macross II, but these other two seem to keep
getting ignored.  Are either worth picking up?
 
  -Ralph Jenkins

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From: tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Gundam 0083 Episode 12 (SPOILERS)
Date: 4 Sep 92 04:33:59 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <+_mn2wq.albertw@netcom.com> albertw@netcom.com (Albert Wong) writes:
>In article <37661@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim) writes:
>>
>>Yes, I screwed up big time. Man, this flu is really screwing up my brain.
>>:-)
>
>Watch two LDs and drink lots' of fluids. ^_^

Gotta drink some Ginseng tea while translating episode 12... :)


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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Primer)
Subject: anime club in Bloomington Indiana?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:56:06 GMT

    Is there an anime club in Bloomington Indiana?

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From: thwang@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tommy Hwang)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Newbie question: Why does anime cost so much?
Date: 29 Aug 92 03:56:57 GMT
Organization: Purdue University


   
   
     Sorry, but MSRP means exact what it says, "Manufacture's suggested
retail price."  Mr. Woodhead do NOT care how much the retailers sells them for.

     I know a place that sells them for $25.  and he doesn't care
how much people are chargine for them.  He already made the
profit from retail sale.  Also, when you said $19.95, that is if 
the retailer buys 50 or ore tapes/LDs.  Few retailers will do that.
Retail prices can be as high as $26.00 for a $39.95 tape.  Finally,
Animeigo is NOT the only distributor for Animeigo tapes.  Sorry if
this sounds like a flam, but I DID NOT intend this to be one.  I
find it necessary for people to understand the retailer's side as well.
   
     Japanese Animation DO NOT sell, relatively speaking of course.
   
                                                 -TKH '92
   
P.S.  Above "he" refers to Mr. Woodhead.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: harlock@netcom.com (Mike Harlock)
Subject: Re: ANIME EXPO '93
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 19:18:59 GMT
Organization: The Space Vessel Arcadia

In article <17lpajINN7pq@agate.berkeley.edu> wang@ocf.berkeley.edu (Albert Sze-Wei Wang) writes:
>Mike, is the Westin that pyramid shaped hotel near the San Jose main library
>on the west side of the San Jose Convention Center?  It's about a couple
>of blocks from all those recycled book stores right?  If that's the
>hotel it's nowhere near Great America.  Either that or I'm thinking of
>a different convention center in San Jose...  No, something's not right.
>Clarifications please!  Where EXACTLY is the Westin.

Nononono! Heh.  It's the one attached to the Santa Clara convention center.
It just changed ownership.  It used to be the Doubletree. 


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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Subject: Re: BGC <--> Blade Runner (RE-post)
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:52:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.062251.9180@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews) writes:
>In a previous article, wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes) says:
>>Well, considering that Leon and Priss are names in both Blade Runner and
>>BGC, I think it's safe to say the BGC people are fans of Blade Runner.  8-]
>Hey, you're right!

"Well, of *course* I'm right, you fool!"  8->

>Leon was the bald replicant, and Priss was Darryl Hannah, right?

Righto.

>I never thought of that!

Good thing I did, then, eh?  8-]

>What were the names of the other replicants?

Roy Batty (Rutger Hauer's character), Zora (sp?), and Rachel (sp?).

>I did know that BGC is inspired by Blade Runner.  If you need proof, look no
>further than the name for Priss' backup band:  "The Replicants".  The city
>emulates the feel of Blade Runner as well, down to the large TV screens on
>the buildings.  That's one of the reasons BGC 8 is my least favorite in the
>series: it was just too sweet and cute to belong in the BGC universe.

The Blade Runner influence/in-jokes/ripoffs are all over BGC.  The names
have been mentioned, as well as the overall feel of the city.  Plus there
are those big floating billboards; some of the buildings, like AD Police
HQ and Genom look suspiciously like the police HQ and Tyrell building in
BR; the theme of hunting down superhuman replicants/Boomers and their
relationship to humans; heck, you might even argue that Sylia is analogous
to Rachel, in that both are not human yet so close that one wonders what
the difference is, and that Largo's desire for cyberdroids to emerge into
their own parallels Roy's desire for longevity.  I suppose we'll probably
be lucky if the BR people don't notice BGC and sue AnimEigo into oblivion
over it 8-/...

Blade Runner also influenced other anime and manga, like Silent Mobius.
-- 
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Disclaimer:  The author apologizes for any thought-provoking material he may
	     have accidentally included and promises not to do it again.
Datclaimer:  My employers wouldn't WANT to share some of my opinions.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime,rec.arts.manga
From: Kimagure@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (Orange Road Addict)
Subject: Script for Omoide Poroporo (Only Yesterday) in progress??
Followup-To: rec.arts.anime
Keywords: script, omoide poroporo, only yesterday
Reply-To: Kimagure@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (Orange Road Addict)
Organization: The Ohio State University; Department of Phyiscs
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 03:49:23 GMT



 I would very much like to know if there is somebody out there that is 
 CURRENTLY working on a script for Omoide Poroporo (Only Yesterday) ??

 The reason for this is that in case nobody is currently translating it I would
 like to ask a friend of mine to do it.

 So please, if you are currently translating Omoide Poroporo or you know 
 somebody who is, let me know (via E-mail). I would appreciate it, as that way
 I would save friends time and effort.


 Thank you very much!
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From: Carl_Horn@library.tmc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: they pelted us with rocks and garbage
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:56:00 GMT
To: anime-l@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU

Obviously, the Japanese think cartoons are "just for kids."

I think Henry Rollins put it best:
"All our friends are gonna hang out here tonight, all right!
 We'll pass out on the couch, all right! Tonight!
 Don't talk about anything else--we don't wanna know!
 We're dedicated to our favorite shows!"

--from "TV Party"

--Carl Horn
From: ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Primer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: A Sazan Eyes observation
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:31:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bu2MCC.JLn
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


    I just noticed something different about 3x3 Eyes.
NO BLUE HAIR!!! Everyone has a normal hair color...WOW!!!!

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From: visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Sex in BGC
Date: 4 Sep 92 01:38:47 GMT
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <3SEP199216220653@zeus.tamu.edu> msw8629@zeus.tamu.edu (WILLIAMS, MICHAEL SHANE) writes:


+>In short, they used human blood.  Every now and then, they needed to renew their
+>supply of human blood, and if none was readily available (GENOM bloodbank?), 
+>then problems arose (a la  Shilvie draining blood for herself and Anri).  This
+>is why they were on the Satellite to begin with.  They were exiled there as 
+>boomers that used human blood were outlawed.

	I dont know that they had to replace the blood supply under normal
operation.  Anri was damanged during the early part of the escape attempt
and Shilvie's comments/attitude seemed to suggest that as soon as they had
the repair information, they would be "free".  

	Syilia's comments seemed to suggest that had more to do with the
c-series components in the 33-S and the ability of the 33-S to "syncronize"
with "superweapons".

	It could also have had to do with the emotion-manipulation capabilities
and the ability of the 33-s's to break Genom's conditioning (such as Shilve
and company did.

	The murderious vampire behavior I suppose can be put down to some
sort of instinct and a lack of understanding about where to get blood 
other than from human bodies.
From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: VIZ improves
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 92 13:55:14 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <1574@tnc.UUCP> m0336@tnc.UUCP writes:
 >  
 > VIZ looks better in Black & White!!  

Not surprising. It always did. As to their dialogue for Ranma, though,
I'm still skeptical.

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From: as413@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric William Paslick)
Subject: Re: Mobile Armors in 0083
Reply-To: as413@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric William Paslick)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 23:50:13 GMT


In a previous article, okamoto@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Jeff Okamoto) says:

>tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim) says:
>
>> Psycho Gundam in Z Gundam had Reflector Bits...
>
>Actually, it was Pull Two's PG Mk-II in Double Zeta that had the reflectors.
>Rosamia's PG MkII in Zeta didn't have reflectors.
>-- 
>
Rosamia had them, but just didn't use them.  The mecha section of almost
every Zeta book I have shows them to be a part of PG Mk-II.

					Eric
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: ANIME EXPO '93
From: grey@bugs.sfsu.edu (Herbert Leong)
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:27:16 PDT

In article <37276@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>  writes:
> In article <l9ar8oINN1dl@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> ingalz@cji.Eng.Sun.COM  
writes:
> >In article 37105@sdcc12.ucsd.edu, rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal  
Agitator) writes:
> >>I think the move to the Oakland Convenetion Center is a good one.
> >>More dealer space, and more room for future expansion.
> 
> >truce.  Notice that Greg's post stated the Bay Area, which can include  
the Santa 
> >Clara Convention Center and the adjoining Westin Hotel as well.   
Personally, I think 
> >Santa Clara is a much better location since it is larger, brand new,  
has enormus 
> >accomodations including a large theater, plus front row seats to the  
largest 
> >fireworks show in the Bay Area.  You wouldn't be caught dead meandering  
out of the 
> >Oakland Parc Hotel after dark (unless you want to be a drive-by  
target); even Burger
> >King closes before 7pm.  
> 
> Hmm, good point.  I hadn't thought of that.  Come to think about it,
> food options around the Oakland Conv. Center are remarkably sparse,
> but then I guess that's what BART is for.  And having never been to
> the Santa Clara CC, I could not suggest that.  However, I still stand
> by my point that compared to the Red Lion, the *internal* facilities
> are much better.  Larger possibilities for the Dealers' area plus the
> option of both Conv. Center facilities and hotel facilities.
	I have never been to the Oackland convention center but hte  
westin's is also next to a convention center, is somewhat large (looking  
at the parking lot, VERY). 
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From: jkim@jingoro.Eng.Sun.COM (Jun Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: "synopsizing" videos; a new tool for everyone!
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:00:14 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: jingoro

In article <6145@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> FARQUHAR%SNYSYRV1.BITNET@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU writes:

>3) You say that anyone with a simple Amiga and a piece of software can do
>this instead of the few with the equipment need to subtitle....
>Sorry to be the one to break the news fellow, but what do you think most
>people are using to subtitle? An Amiga, Turbotitle software (Sharware!),
>and a genlock (if you are REAL cheap you can get one for $80)

Where?  Like to see a reliable source for an $80 genlock.


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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty III)
Subject: Re: KOR OAV 2
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:46:34 GMT

In article <37523@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator) writes:
> 
> It's also not very often that you get to see
> Japanese subtitles (Macross and Robot Carnival come to mind, any others?)

GUNBUSTER, episode 6.

WINGS OF HONNEAMISE, just about every scene in the Republic (the original
language was Malaysian, BTW).

[re: little picture on the spine]
> The picture in this case is a closeup of Kyosuke and
> Jingoro and never appeared in either "White Lovers" or "Hawaiian
> Suspense".

Uh-uh.  It's Madoka and Kyosuke (in Jingoro's body) from the "Fish and Cat"
OVA.

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From: rjking@acsu.buffalo.edu (Randall J. King)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: FTP sites needed
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:35:21 GMT
Organization: UB

Can someone either post or E-Mail me the address for an FTP site with some
new pictures.  I have an FTP list, but it is old, and so are most of the 
GIFS at the sites.  Is there a site that is getting new pictures put into
it now?

			Thanks....
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From: ortega@cactus.org (Paul Ortega)
Subject: Re: Wanted:Ranma Videos
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 02:46:33 GMT

In article <6067@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> 7514P%NAVPGS.BITNET@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (Chris Swett) writes:
><Ranma videos>
>
>     Aaaaaackkk! No, no, no more Ranma videos! I won't do it, I tell you.
>I have tapes stacked to the ceiling. Nooooooooo!!!!   :)
>
>                                     --- Chris

I can help with some of those Ranma episodes for the cost of the 
tapes, mailer, and postage.

E-mail me next week when I'll have my updated video list ready.

The athlete: Chris Swett
The sport: The over-heated VCR throw

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From: fongj@pooky.EE.McGill.CA (chun kwai jay fong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Sorry
Date: 28 Aug 92 03:52:44 GMT
To: ANIME-L@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU

Hi there,

  The UNIX system went down for about 5 days at school so if anyone has sent me
mail during the past couple of days, please resend because it most likely got
lost.  Thanks!

Jay
From: gujn@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Jeremy Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: PUMA LEAVE!:-(
Date: 30 Aug 92 04:59:42 GMT
Organization: University of Western Australia

psy9kja@CABELL.VCU.EDU (Keith J. Andreano) writes:
>	PUMA leave in week. No net access, maybe forever!:-( PUMA hope
>	get new account where PUMA go (Annandale, Va.) but earlyest that
>	be is start next year! :-( PUMA miss r.a.a. :-( Bye-Bye....... 

How about a round of Auld Lang Syne?

From one of the faceless readers,

				ByeBye Puma!

>::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>  PUMA's Fav Manga: NAUSEA of the Valley of Passing Wind. Now that miasma!
>        No wonder they all wear masks! Must grow lot of beans there!
>Remember she valley girl! "Like, yaknow, I really like Ohmu, like, fersure!"
>::::::::::::::::::::::::PUMA!:psy9kja@cabell.vcu.edu::::::::::::::::::::::::

Come back soon, like yaknow?
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From: chiu@ucsee.berkeley
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Sneak Peak : SCRAMBLE WARS
Date: 24 Aug 1992 03:37:51 GMT
Organization: University of California Society of Electrical Engineers (UCSEE)
Distribution: world
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Keywords: very funny sd
Originator: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU

In article <1992Aug24.013004.5241@foretune.co.jp> trebor@foretune.co.jp (Robert J Woodhead) writes:

>Plus cameos from a variety of other characters.  Lots of wierd plot
>twists which I won't reveal, all very very funny.

So does that mean AnimEgo will pick it up? Also, has the release date for
Otaku no Video been announced yet? (or have I just been on the moon and
wasn't aware of it?)
From: wang@ocf.berkeley.edu (Albert Sze-Wei Wang)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: ANIME EXPO '93
Date: 25 Aug 1992 20:33:43 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: hailstorm.berkeley.edu


[Much discussion on hotel removed]

My opinion of the hotel situation is as follows.  If the Oakland Convention
Center is going to give us everything for less, then we should immediately
consider the Convention Center.  They have more space than ANY hotel can
ever give us and are giving us really good rates on them.  I would rather
have more space and make the guests happier and be near a Bart line than
to put the convention in a hotel away from everything except those who
have cars and at greater cost and less room.

If the money we save will help bring another high-powered guest, would some
locals be willing to drive the extra distance to Oakland?  I believe the
air fares to Oakland and San Francisco are cheaper than those to San Jose,
especially those from the East Coast.  It's been my experience, but anyone
who travels more frequently than I from the East Coast please correct me if
my information is in error.  Travel dates will also vary airfare prices.


Albert

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