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From: asper@sbctri.sbc.com (Alan E. Asper)
Subject: Re: Alternative music.
Organization: Southwestern Bell Technology Resources, St.Louis, MO
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 17:46:43 GMT

In article <boba.32o8@terapin.com> boba@terapin.com (Bob Alexander) writes:
>
>        Alternative music to me is Cranioclast, Organum, Residents, Feotus,
>Hafler Trio, Chrome, Negativland, Cop Shoot Cop, Mx 80, Riuns, Boredoms,
>Hanatarash, Etc. Bob.

Ummmm..... so?

Alan
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Subject: Re: HAPPENING LOCAL MUSIC SCENES
From: (becky)
Date: 6 Jan 93 13:39:04 -0600
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Distribution: world

  Forget about Toronto, I say The Twin Cities, esp. Mpls.,MN>  Bob MOuld
with his solo work as well as Husker Du and now Sugar are moving up the
charts quite nicely.  Then there's the former Replacements and their lead
singer Paul Westerberg who had great success producing the Singles
soundtrack, and our new boy wonder's Soul Asylum.  There are quite a few
bands coming out of the Cities, some more publicized then others, and in
all forms of music.  Trip Shakespeare's doing quite well and so is Peter
Himmelmen(who's more folky, but quite a talented artist) and the former
Gear Daddies.  I say MN. has one of the hottest and most underrated music
scenes in the country as well as one of the most diverse.
    Peace,
       Becky
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From: js3471r@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Re: Throwing Muses' old 7"
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:24:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.043710.11369@news2.cis.umn.edu>, kill0012@student.tc.umn.edu () writes:
> Can anyone clue me in further?  WAY back (around 1985) I was at a small
> liberal arts college and DJed at the radio station there.  It was there
> that I was alerted to the existence of the fabulous THROWING MUSES.  Since
> I worked at the station, I couldn't bring myself to steal that first
> 7-inch bit of vinyl that they had released.  I taped it instead.  
> 
> But now I find that I'd sell my mother to own that 7_times_pi bit of
> heaven.  Any leads?  ... Mind you, this was before any 4AD contracts.
> 
> --
> Jennifer Gibb Killmer (that's Jen to you, bub) University of Minnesota
> kill0012@student.tc.umn.edu                         Minneapolis Campus
>   I  a m  w o t  I  a m,  a n d  t h a t ' s  a l l  t h a t  I  a m
I can't actually help with that.  However, I have a similar question.  Thinking 
that I was purchasing the single you are evidently looking for, I ordered a 7"
red disk from a New York company that had three Throwing Muses songs on it 
(an original version of Santa Claus and two others).  The thing is, while the 
recordings were different from ones I had heard before and the single was not
on either 4AD or Sire, it had a cpyright date of 1989 or something (I would
have to look at the singe to get this right and tell you the names of the
songs, etc.).  Does anyone know the history of this single or what it is
exactly?  

John Sloop
JS3471R@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU
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From: grove@uk.tele.nokia.fi (Paddy Grove)
Subject: Charlatans
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications, Transmission Product Development,
	Cambridge, UK
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 07:21:30 GMT

Hi,

    Can anyone post (or email) me a Charlatans discography. I'd be
particularly interested in track listings for their singles.

    Thanks,

        Paddy
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From: feit@acsu.buffalo.edu (Elissa Feit)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Television -- together again?
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:47:29 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

Speaking of Television, I just saw a double cd, priced $26, called
_The Blow Up_, which are the "Roir Sessions", whatever they are...

The cds are made in Austria, by Danceteria. Is this an import?
bootleg? what?

Elissa Feit (feit@cs.buffalo.edu // {rutgers,uunet}!cs.buffalo.edu!feit)
"I think Philip Roth is a great writer, but I wouldn't want to shake his hand."
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From: blckjck@leland.Stanford.EDU (Brett Alexander Cruden)
Subject: Re: Cure B-Sides
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 04:58:28 GMT

In article <mtl2001-120193191358@m248-97.bgsu.edu> mtl2001@andy.bgsu.edu (MAtt) writes:

>I heard about a rumored box set several months ago, but that could've been
>a lot of B.S.

I remember seeing a cure boxed set at a local CD store sometime last year.  I
didn't really look at it, so I can't really tell you anything about it.  
It had like five disks or so, none of which were really labelled.  If I 
remember correctly, they had the sort of design that's on the Mixed-Up CD.
That's all I can really tell you.  Oh, and I think the price was somewhere 
around $60.



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From: rob@msc.cornell.edu
Subject: Various CDs for sale
Originator: rob@snoopy.msc.cornell.edu
Followup: sender
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:47:35 GMT

The following CDs are for sale:

A;Grumh | The Bloody Side (import) | $10 ppd.
The Cult | Ceremony | $9 ppd.
Frazier Chorus | Cloud 8 Mixes CD5 | offers
My Bloody Valentine | This Is Your Bloody Valentine (import) | $13 ppd.
Nova Mob | Last Days of Pompeii | $8.50 ppd.
Soul Side (Dischord band) | Soon - Come - Happy | $7 ppd.
Teenage Fanclub | Bandwagonesque | $9 ppd.
Tin Machine | Tin Machine II | $9 ppd.
The Zulus | Down On The Floor | $8 ppd.

Rob

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From: dsmentek@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Dave Smentek)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:59:10 GMT
Subject: Re: need a title and group
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative

In alt.music.alternative, smb3565@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:

> I borrowed this tape from a friend of mine which is a mix of stuff but I have
> no idea who sings most of the songs, so you will be hearing from me some more
> in the short future but I can only think of one of the top of my head that I am
> really interested in, and the chorus is easy and goes like this ...
> 
> "She loves me, she loves me not"
> 
> That just repeated a few times for the chorus...
> 
> Sound familiar to anyone...anyone...
... stuff deleted ...
> 
> 					-Sean

"Wise Up Sucker" - Pop Will Eat Itself (P.W.E.I.)
album is "This is the day, this is the hour, this is this"

dave
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From: bakerc@shnext16.ucslabs.sfu.ca (Douglas Baker)
Subject: Brave New Waves
Keywords: Brave New Waves
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:49:51 GMT

Brave New Waves is a CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Company) venture, on once  
a week late on fridays, I think, but I'll ask my brother because he knows  
for sure. It is indeed a pretty cool show.
From: rji@turing.cs.nott.ac.uk (Rob Ingram)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Poppies
Keywords: Everything that rises
Date: 8 Jan 93 10:11:59 GMT
Organization: Communications Research Group

In article <C0Hwsu.ALo@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>, atay@warp.UWaterloo.ca (Tay-man) writes:
|> Lazlo Nibble writes (regarding "Everything That Rises")
|> 
|> And now for a question of my own:  If the five members of the band are  
|> Clint Mansell, Graham Crabb, Richard March, Adam Mole, and Fuzz, why has  
|> every song they've ever done (except cover versions) been credited to  
|> "Vestan Pance"?  This has baffled me for years.
|> 
|>  

"Vestan Pance" - say it quickly, its a joke but may not travell across
the Atlantic so well.


				Rob.


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From: mjr@nyquist.cs.nott.ac.uk (Marcus Roberts)
Subject: Re: Poppies Live!!!!
Organization: Communications Research Group
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 11:02:01 GMT

In article <bfrrelly.726769440@unix2.tcd.ie>, bfrrelly@unix2.tcd.ie (Jerry Cornelius) writes:
[....]

|>     They have to be one of the best live acts around. People may
|> knock the throwaway nature of a lot of their songs, but the are   
|> unbelieveable live, not to be missed, real energy!
|> 
|>                I'm still recovering 2 days later!!!
|> 
|>              See em while you can!!
|> 
|>                        Brian.
|> 
|>    Also, somebody has posted that they were dropped from RCA. Yet in the
|> same post, he says the new single is in the charts at #9. ??????
|> 
|>       Any truth in this!!!!

Yeah, they are one of the best live acts around - and certainly one of the
loudest gigs I've ever been to, even compared to Ministry at the same venue!

Sadly, they have been dropped by their record company - "because their record
sales don't match up to their live following".  Apparently they still have to
pay off a substantial amount of the advance they received.  

The new singles is in the charts, but it is the last single to be released on
the RCA label for the Poppies.  I expect a lot of people bought it because
it was the last one, but more significantly, they released two singles at once,
the "remixes" version of Get the Girl,... and the Excess All Areas! live single
of the October Galaxian Patrol.  I think that because the singles have the same
title track, they both count as the same release, hence apparently doubling
the sales of the single if fans buy both (I certainly did).  Still, not bad
getting to number 9, even if the Frank and Walters beat them! :-)

Marcus
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From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Subject: Re: Jesus Jones
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:43:23 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-10-93 19:38
Quoted From: MJSU@jylk.jyu.fi (MARKKU J SUIHKONEN, OPIS)
> 
> Is Jesus Jones going to tour ever again?
> 

I believe so...

> With computers only? 
> 
> as a sort of rock'n'roll version of DM?
> 

I really don't want to compare the two.  And I doubt they would tour 
with computers only.  They'd end up getting rid of over half the band 
(which would become unnecessary, since they play guitars and drums).

> And are there various versions of Perverse available?
> 

Not sure.

> and the address of fan club would be appreceiated by 
> 
> one gorgeous girl (just someone I know).
> 

In my 'Doubt' LP, it has the following written:

information
jesus jones
p.o. box 1786
london
nw119ew

You can find the fan club address from there, I'm sure (unless someone 
here actually has it).
  Why is it that there are so many females who like Jesus Jones? (just 
an observation made from attending concerts).  Does it have something 
to do with Mike Edwards?

> 
> Mrcl
> 

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From: jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu (have clue, will travel)
Subject: Request for DICKIES info...
Reply-To: jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: The Ghost Of Christmas Past Society
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:53:28 GMT


Anyone willing to post/mail information, a discography, and/or lyrics
for the Dickies would become my instant best friend.  I've been listening
to the Locked & Loaded live album and falling in love, which I picked up
after listening to a friend's copy of Second Coming.

I know of The Incredible Shrinking Dickies, Locked & Loaded, Second Coming,
Stukas Over Disneyland and a couple more...

(And, no, there isn't jack on the lyrics server on uwp.)

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From: 9227792@ul.ie
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Nirvana Incesticide
Date: 4 Jan 93 12:33:25 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland


 I think Nirvana have a new album out called Incesticide.
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 Should be good,great band.
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From: csg068@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Decker)
Subject: Re: new fast automatic daffodils
Keywords: new fast automatic daffodils
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:28:04 GMT

In article <3827@scslwide.sony.co.jp> torii@scslwide.sony.co.jp (aiko aiko) writes:
>picked up a really cool cd by the new fast automatic daffodils.
>any info on this band ?
>
>ken

My mate (Fergus) is the guitarist's (Dolan) brother.

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From: tuffyd@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Devin 'Nice Guy' Tuffy)
Subject: Re: very good b-sides.
Reply-To: tuffyd@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 02:49:57 GMT


|> >what other b-sides are there that have achieved some sort of fame?

Bigod 20's version of Like a Prayer was a b-side of the "On the Run" single, and
that's achieved "some sort of fame"

dev
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: etlcrcy@bugs.ericsson.se (Chris Cleverly)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Shonen Knife discography
Organization: Ericsson Cellular Division
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:02:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.173249.15079@netcom.com> ilsa@netcom.com (Ilsa VanHook) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.095725.12379@ericsson.se> etlcrcy@bugs.ericsson.se (Chris Cleverly) writes:
>>
>>  I have only one Shonen Knife track - 'Flying Jelly Attack'.  Is this from
>>'Let's Knife` ?  The reason I ask is because this track is on a compilation
>>album and I was curious as to its orign.
>
>it could be, or it could be the version from _Shonen Knife_.  When does the
>compilation date from?  _Let's Knife_ is pretty recent, after all...

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From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: "U2 Negativland" shirts
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:23:17 GMT

stephane.gelinas@synapse.org (Stephane Gelinas)  writes:

>XIS>Netweb logo in black.  The back is the "Corporate SST Still Sucks
>XIS>Rock." from page 42 of "The Letter U And The Numeral 2".

>Why do you say this?  I've had a feeling that SST were a bunch of crooks,
>but I haven't heard anything yet that could prove this, except their
>high prices of course.  Aren't those the one that ripped off a few artists
>on their label?

It's a play on the SST slogan - SST has grown into a huge company that 
employs up to 30 or more people and with assets of 5 million $. They've
ripped off at least a few bands by constantly repackaging older works that
they no longer have the rights to release. They are being sued by The 
Meat-Puppets, I think. Plus SST is suing Negativland and I think the Meat 
Puppets also. Greg Ginn has issued press releases calling Negativland
yuppies and liars. Ginn has turned SST into a corporate machine as bad 
as the ones he claims to hate. There's also accusations that SST has not
reported sales correctly to artists or paid royalties on the actual amounts 
of units sold.  
 
  - Malcolm  
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From: ctatro@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (kristoff)
Subject: Re: new order / depeche mode tour?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:25:09 GMT

New Order opening for Depeche Mode??? Blasphemy!! Surely it must be the other
way around!  Although, when I saw them last tour, I must say they, um, well,
sucked live.  Depeche did too, but not as badly. Nevertheless, I will probably 
still shell out the big bucks for a ticket to this tour.

               Eagerly donning asbestos,
                         kristoff
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From: 000354n@axe.acadiau.ca (JAMES ANDREW NORTON)
Subject: Re: TMBG - SHUT UP!!!
Summary: alt.music.tmbg exists, so you can take all this elsewhere
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:46:35 GMT

In article <1drp2dINN92q@agate.berkeley.edu> sherw@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gregory Sherwin) writes:
>From: sherw@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gregory Sherwin)
>Subject: Re: TMBG - SHUT UP!!!
>Date: 11 Nov 1992 20:05:33 GMT
>Summary: alt.music.tmbg exists, so you can take all this elsewhere

>In article <1992Nov6.171434.2282@netcom.com> dx@netcom.com (dx) writes:
>>And?  Is there something wrong with liking a band because they're popular?
>>Because all of your friends like them?  Because they're *good*?  After all,
>>as we've discussed here many times, why would so many people buy their
>>records (and push them to the upper reaches of the charts) if their music
>>wasn't excellent?  Just because a band is popular doesn't instantly mean
>>that they're music is dog food, does it?  Or maybe it does... I don't
>>really know anymore.
>>
>>-dx

>Look - I really don't care about TMBG either way or their new-song-a-day
>phone line for that matter.  BUT - I think you are making some sad
>extrapolations here.  Popularity never equals quality.  Some fine examples?:

>Michael Bolton
>Gilligan's Island
>McDonald's
>Laverne & Shirley
>Shaun Cassidy
>shoulder pads in women's clothing
>bell bottoms

>Think about it...the list goes on.  I don't know - maybe 200 billion
>people can't be wrong - maybe the McDonald's hamburger is the greatest
>meal on the face of this planet?

>Oh my God! - I have been living a lie!
>greg

Hey. I kind of liked Gilligan's Island.
James
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From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Subject: Re: Ride
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:09:56 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)


Date Entered: 01-08-93 14:58
Quoted From: mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk
> 
> Firstly, the next Ride LP is going to use keyboards instead of guitars a la
> their cover of Kraftwerk's "The Model".  This may see Ride expand their range
> somewhat.
>    Secondly, the Ride/Charlatans double bill bashes at Blackpool and Brighton
> are almost sold out already.  At just #12 this is a total bargain.  Tim Burgess
> says The Charlies are going to preview new material at the shows prior to
> recording in the late Spring, so haul ass down there!
> 

  Keyboards instead of guitars ... really?  This is surprising, 
considering how central the guitars are to most of their songs 
(although the drumming must also be mentioned as excellent).  I 
noticed more use of keyboards on 'Going Blank Again' (ie. in _Leave 
Them All Behind_) than any other their other releases.
  Where can I find this cover version of _The Model_?  Is it on an EP, 
or a single, or what?  (UK release?)

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From: pat@mks.com (Pat Inglis)
Subject: Re: HAPPENING LOCAL MUSIC SCENES
Keywords: USA music scenes
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:51:10 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.153711.8646@tse.uucp> don@tse.uucp (Don Marks) writes:
>>
>We have an excellent local scene here in Toronto, Canada.  The thing is
>(and its a good thing), there is no real Toronto sound; we have a little 
>of everything: ska, roots rock, folk, pop, industrial, thrash, etc.  A 
>lot of local acts are doing well enough to be putting out independent 
>releases.  Paul Raven (of Killing Joke, Pigface) is starting up an indie 
>label here so some international exposure may result.
>
>Some of our fine bands are:
 <many fine bands deleted>

I'll add to that list:

The Hopping Penguins (I think they're from TO but I may be wrong)
Shadowy Men on a Shadowy Planet (great punkish/hopped up Ventures type music)
The Bourbon Tabernacle Choir (Tour Southern Ontario extensively)
The Grope Toads (from Cambridge, 45 min from TO)
Scott B. Sympathy (again, probably from TO but maybe not)

and of course...

The Barenaked Ladies (from Scarborough, suburb of TO)

The list could go on and on...

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From: alf@wam.umd.edu (Christopher L. Klein)
Subject: Re: NED'S ATOMIC DUSTBIN
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 05:30:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan13.030339.23920@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> sck8n@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Song Chun Kim) writes:
>
>
>While we are on the subject of Ned's Atomic Dustbin, I have
>two questions.
>
>First, I know that Ned's is going to play at some radio music
>hall in NYC on Jan 21.  Does anyone know if Ned's is coming
>anywhere near Washington D.C./Northern Virginia area for gig(s)?
>I am dying to see them live.
Correction: Neds are playing at wust radio music hall(815 v st. nw DC) on the
21st I do not know what the new york date is.  the openers are supreme love gods and flowerhead tickets are 20$
peace

-chris
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