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From: pboren@rand.org (Pat Boren)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Re: SOKOL / genealogy sources ?
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:44:37 GMT
Organization: RAND

In the United States, we can use the genealogy services offered
through the Czecho-Slovak Embassy in Washington DC.  Perhaps
their embassy in Belgium can do the same.  Here is something I wrote
about the US service:

  For genealogical research of places that exist in present-day
  Czechoslovakia, I highly recommend using the services offered
  through the embassy in Washington, D.C.  They will conduct two types
  of search:  running account or individual vital statistics.

    The running account is based on information you provide about
    one ancestor.  They use it trace parents, grandparents, etc.

    The individual vital record is where you want only one specific
    item found:  e.g., birth record for your ancestor.

  The beauty of their searches (in my case, through local church
  records) is that you do not have to provide much information.
  Obviously, the more the better, but in my case I didn't have much.
  I provided them with the following:

    John Hirkala, born early 1830s perhaps in Kucin, near Bardejov,
	  Slovakia.

  I asked for a running account and received more information than
  I ever dreamed for:  birthdates of "Janos," his wife, and children,
  and his marriage date (including maiden name of wife).  And the same
  information for three generations back (i.e., he was listed as a kid
  to his parents along with brothers and sisters).  All told, I got
  4 generations of information.  Wonderful stuff!

  On the forms you receive from the embassy, you're asked how much
  money you'd be willing to spend.  I said $100, and this came in at
  $67.50.  The archives/records centers in Cz. conduct the research
  and then let you know the cost--the embassy releases the information
  to you after you pay.

  Write   Embassy of the Czech and Slovak Federal Republic
	  3900 Linnean Ave, NW
	  Washington, D.C.  20008
	  (202) 363-6315

Hope this helps.

Pat
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From: juris@cs.toronto.edu (Igor Jurisica)
Subject: Re: Trnava University suppressed by Meciar's Party
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:15:58 GMT

Maybe it is a time to ask a few questions.

1. Does Mr. Hajduk fulfill all requirements to be at the position
   of rector?
2. Why it is considered to be a political problem?
3. Do all other univerities in Slovakia have the same problems? I dont't
   assume that all rectors are members of HZDS.
4. Are the people who reposted the article familiar with the situation
   from their experience or at least from more than one source of
   information?

I am not saying that the UT should be closed. I am not saying that all
decisions (concerning UT) of the Ministry of Education were good. I just
would like to understand the situation and not to be biased by the
interpretation of a few students and maybe several pedagogues.

Thank you in advance,
                        Igor

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From: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan)
Subject: What's in shops now?
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:47:30 GMT

Just for a bit of relief from the economic and political discussions,  
think about this for a second:  What items which are widely available in  
the west would be appreciated as presents to a young (20's) Czech person?   
I'm not talking about Ferrari's, you understand, so let's keep it under,  
say, US$100.   I imagine lot's of things that weren't easily obtained  
there when I last went, in 1975, are now being imported.  But maybe not.   
Any of you been shopping there recently?

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From: Patarak Ondrej <patarak@kjemi.unit.no>
Subject: Re: Please, all Czech or Slovak speakers, help out!
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A725957C94022796@pca20.kjemi.unit.no>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 10 Nov 92 15:36:12 GMT
Organization: Dept. Inorganic Chemistry, Norwegian Inst. Technology
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 15:35:23 GMT

fitch@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Don't blame me- I voted for Bill and Opus)
sorry just a test
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From: "kaca henlez" <kaca.henlez@canrem.com>
Subject: cfv: misc.news.east-europ
Reply-To: "kaca henlez" <kaca.henlez@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:44:34 EST

vote for your newsletter. Do you know about prague charles
university's CAROLINA, published weekly in czech and english by the
journalism faculty? Subscriptions addressed to listserve@csearn.bitnet,
for english version text reads SUBSCRIBE CAR-ENG and your name
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From: "kaca henlez" <kaca.henlez@canrem.com>
Subject: what's in shops now?
Reply-To: "kaca henlez" <kaca.henlez@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:44:34 EST

Suggest you look around for what is a current fad in the US. A year
ago, I'd have suggested blue jeans or anything in denim, but there is a
fair supply of that sort of thing there these days (I was last there in
September), if rather expensive. Also up-to-date music, what I saw there
in the sphere of contemporary music was dated. Depending on your young
friend's taste -- If it were me, I'd probably pick up some Bobby
McFerrin or Loreena McKennit (sp?) or something like that, off beat and
out of the ordinary. But remember that tapes and CDs are relatively
cheap there.
Also, come to think of it, never ran into any of those
holographic pictures there... I dunno. On the other hand, in terms of
what's in the shops now, there is a lot, but anything that is not run
of the mill is pretty expensive, like the denim. US junk food is copied
(poorly), so that's an option too. If your friend is a reader and reads
English, they're way behind in getting English-language books, if they
get them at all.
I'd be interested in what you decide on, and how it's
received. Good luck, and NAZDAR! (which in Czech means hi! and 'bye!
and also "Cheers!", as in a toast)
Kaca (pronounced Kacha)
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From: jelecek@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Conversation in Czech?
Date: 4 Nov 92 17:22:09 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Does anyone want to converse in the Czech language?  I am a historical
geographer from the Prague Institute of Geography of Academy of Sciences.
I'm on a Rockefeller Research Fellowship at the University of Kansas for
one year.  Pokud nekdo ma zajem o konverzaci v cestine, muze mi psat. 
Jelecek
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From: Patarak Ondrej <patarak@kjemi.unit.no>
Subject: Re: Please, all Czech or Slovak speakers, help out!
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 15:34:26 GMT

fitch@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Don't blame me- I voted for Bill and Opus)
sorry just a test
From: hybl@umbc4.umbc.edu (Dr. Albert Hybl (UMAB-BIOPHYS))
Subject: Three Festivals
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:38:00 GMT


Ethnic Heritage Festival at Essex Community College
===================================================

The fifteenth Annual Ethnic Heritage Festival will be
held at Essex Community College (eastern suburbs of Baltimore, MD)
Saturday, November 7 and Sunday (noon until 7pm), November 8.
Displays from over two dozen ethnic communities, gift and handcraft
on sale, food including lunch and dinner also exotic dishes,
"international beer" garden, entertainment includes dances and
songs (Baltimore Symphonic Band at 5:30 pm Sunday).  Sokol Baltimore's
Gymnasts will perform on Sunday.  General Admission $3.50.


Slovonic Food Festival
======================

Saturday, November 21 from 10:00 am to 3:00 pm.  Homemade
Ethnic Food a Specialty; Holupki . Pirohi . Kielbasi . Potato
Panckes . Kolachi -- Bake table and Crafts.  Patronage Mother
of God Byzantine Catholic Church.  Phone: (410) 247-4939.
Linden & Highview Avenues, Arbutus, Maryland


Remembering Dvorak (1893-1993) in Spillvile, Iowa, USA
======================================================

There will be a three day Internation Music Festival in
Spillville, Iowa August 6, 7 and 8, 1993.  Music lovers
will remember the summer 100 years ago when Antonin Dvorak
composed music and lived with his familiy in spillvile, Iowa.
Events will include:  Symphonies, Chamber Music, Vocals,
Demonstrations, Seminars and lecture, Ethnic Food, Arts and
Crafts, Dancing, Genealogy, Church Services ... and much more
with a Czech flavor and Dvorak focus. [For more information as
plans are finalized, send a self-addressed and stamped business
envelope (#10) to: Spillville Historic Action Group, Inc.
P.O. Box 1893, Spillville, IA 52168-0187 USA]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: marty@mame.mu.OZ.AU (Martina Kohoutek)
Subject: Dual Citizenship
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 06:27:48 GMT

Hi...
  I was wondering if anyone could tell me from first hand experience the
possibilities of getting dual citizenship with Czechoslovakia. Both my
parents were born there, and I was born in Australia after they both
became citizens. So far I have been given differing replies from the 
Czech consulate here in Australia, and was wondering what the current
situation is on this in other countries. I would be especially interested
if anyone knows if the current situation with dual citizenship (??) will
be affected by the dissolution of Czechoslovakia on the 31st of December
this year.

Thanking you in advance
(Dekuji za pomoc!)
Martina Kohoutkova
From: esr@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Edwin S. Russell)
Subject: Re: SOKOL / genealogy sources ?
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:33:30 GMT

In article <3999@randvax.rand.org> pboren@rand.org (Pat Boren) writes:
> In the United States, we can use the genealogy services offered
> through the Czecho-Slovak Embassy in Washington DC.  Perhaps
> their embassy in Belgium can do the same.  Here is something I wrote
> about the US service:  ...........

It used to be necessary to work through the embassy in Washington but no  
longer.  Once you have the forms to request information from the archives you  
send them directly now.  This has been true for the last couple of years.

The address on the forms I got a couple of years ago has been changed.  All  
of my requests and their responses are to/from an address in Praha which has  
changed a couple of times in the last couple of years.  The first line of the  
address has "s.s.r.o." in it but I don't have the rest of it with me at the  
moment.  I can get the address from home and post it if there is interest.

Once your request has been submitted (with upper limit of cost stated, as  
indicated in the previous article) they notify you directly when the report  
is ready, usually by certified or registered mail.  They also include  
instructions on how to pay.  In the U.S. the easiest way is to purchase an  
International Postal Money Order (or some name like that) from the Post  
Office.  The original goes to a central clearing house in St. Louis.  You  
send a copy of the thing to the Praha address.  They send the report, again  
by registered mail.

A few years ago, when going through the embassy, a research report would  
often take 6-9 months.  My experience in the last year is that I usually get  
the report in about two months.  

As a side note, I don't think that any two notification letters or reports  
have been mailed to me with the same stamps on them.  If you enjoy stamps,  
there are some beautiful ones used now.
From: hybl@umbc4.umbc.edu (Dr. Albert Hybl (UMAB-BIOPHYS))
Subject: Czech Art & Photo Exhibits
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:22:08 GMT

Copied from American Sokol, Volume CXIII, Number 9 dated
October 1992 on page 9.

========================
CZECH ART & PHOTO EXHIBITS

Approximately 120 works from the Chicago Art Institute's
permanent photograph collections, surveying recent and
current works from Prague, Czechoslovakia will be on exhibit
October 25 through January 24 at the Photography Galleries,
Art Institute of Chicago, Michigan at Adams.  For information,
call (312) 443-3600.  A special exhibition of Czech and Polish
art will be presented through November 14 at the Jacques Baruch
Gallery, Ltd., 40 E. Delaware, Penthouse B, Chicago, IL.
For information, call (312) 944-3377.

=======================  End of article

American Sokol (ISSN: 0003-1259) is published Monthly
(except Bi-Monthly July/August) by the
AMERICAN SOKOL ORGANIZATION, 6424 West Cermak Road, Berwyn,
IL 60402-2386.  Telephone: (708) 795-6671
Subscription: $4.00 per Year [This is probably only the USA rate.]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: tpham@oracle.com (Thai Pham)
Subject: testing
Organization: Oracle Corp., Redwood Shores CA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 06:09:30 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: "kaca henlez" <kaca.henlez@canrem.com>
Subject: cfv: misc.news.east-europ
Reply-To: "kaca henlez" <kaca.henlez@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:44:35 EST

whoops, sorry, i was reading messages backwards, now i found the
CAROLINA newsletter on line. And I thought I was being so helpful...
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From: fitch@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Don't blame me- I voted for Bill and Opus)
Subject: Please, all Czech or Slovak speakers, help out!
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 05:41:08 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

	The Russian and East Central European Studies Program at
Colorado State University is designing a t-shirt, and we need your
help and assistance.  This is a fundraiser and i t will assist us to
provide programs, as we receive no funding from the university.
What is needed is this: can you translate the phrase "RUSSIAN AND
EAST CENTRAL EUROPEAN STUDIES" into Czech, Slovak, or any other local
language?
	You would really be helping us out.  Thank you for your time
	and patience.

	Please respond directly to: fitch@lamar.colostate.edu

Sincerely,
Chris Fitch
R.E.C.E.S. Program, CSU

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From: klapka@vette.colorado.edu (Igor Klapka)
Subject: SOKOL / genealogy sources ?
Reply-To: klapka@vette.colorado.edu (Igor Klapka)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:36:36 GMT

Hi,
I'm very very happy to see Czechoslovakia living in the netwoork.
His culture and history has to recover his place in the World.
And your articles are making part to that resurection.


I'm from Belgium, but my father is from Czecoslovakia.    
He was an active member of the Sokol group, 40 years ago (Especially
Gymnastic and Volley ball). 
He wants to know what's hapen today with that group.
Is it still the same ? Does it kept the same spirit ?


I have another question:
I'd like to restore the genealogy of my father and grandparents.
Where and how is it possible to find sources. 

If you can give me any advice about that, it will be kindfull.


Thanks all.
-- 
                                        Igor KLAPKA



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From: ehle@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ehle)
Subject: Jan Kavan
Keywords: Kavan, dissident, Czech
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 20:46:03 GMT

There is an article about Jan Kavan, a former "oppositionist and
activist-in-exile," in the October 19 New Yorker, and a follow-up to
that article in the November 2 issue. I'm sorry to have missed the
October 19 article, but the follow-up has convinced me to look back
for it.

Kavan returned to Prague from exile in London in the fall of  '89, was
greeted with open arms, and later won a seat in Parliament. But he was
later accused as an agent of the StB (the Czech communist state
security), and in a trial by the Independent Commission which lacked
any semblance of due process, was unable to have his name cleared. Jan
Kavan is only one of a number of people, according to this follow-up
article, who have been accused of collaberation. Another is Zdena
Skvorecky, co-founder with her novelist husband, Josef, of the
Toronto-based 68 Publishers, "perhaps the foremost publisher of
authentic Czech literature anywhere in the world." 

Lawrence Weschler, the author of the article, compares Kavan's case to
the Dreyfus case in France. He smells a whiff, at least of
anti-Semitism, and much more than a whiff of  "scapegoatism" (my word,
and very clumsy), that he ascribes to a populace with its own bad
conscience about decades of acquiescence.

I'd be very interested to hear what anyone - but especially what any
Czech or Slovak - has to say about this article.  I've only recently
started reading Carolina; have they carried this story at all?


-- 
		
				Rob Ehle
				Stanford University Press
				ehle@leland.stanford.edu
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From: evanc@microsoft.com (Evan C Cacka)
Subject: Looking for information about my name
Date: 12 Nov 92 02:20:48 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

Hello.  My appologies if this is not a good place to ask about
such things, but I knew of no other place to try.

I would like to find out as much about my family name as possible,
and if there might be any others with this name out there on the
net.
                  v v
My family name is Cacka.  To the best of my knowledge, this spelling
with the haceks over the 'c's is the correct Czech spelling, but I
am not 100% sure.  My grandparents came to the US from the Brno area
of Moravia in 1887, and unfortunately not much of my 'old country'
heritage has been preserved.

Is anyone out there familiar with this name?  Does it have a specific
meaning (as many Czech names do)?  Is there anyone else out there
with this same last name, or do you know others with this name?

Thank you for any information you can offer me.  Please reply
directly to me at

          evanc@microsoft.com

Thank you again,
Evan C. Cacka

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me to work here, and I allow them to pay me...
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          My opinions do not represent Microsoft in any way, they just
From: Lubosh <Lubosh.Hanuska@anu.edu.au>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Re: Dual Citizenship
Date: 11 Nov 1992 03:19:07 GMT
Organization: ANU Canberra
Distribution: world
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X-XXDate: Wed, 11 Nov 92 22:19:12 GMT

In article <marty.721376868@sungear> Martina Kohoutek,
marty@mame.mu.OZ.AU writes:
>parents were born there, and I was born in Australia after they both
>became citizens. So far I have been given differing replies from the 
>Czech consulate here in Australia, and was wondering what the current
I have already asked about this matter at the Embassy of CSFR (to my
knowledge there is no Czech consulate in Australia - would you rather
have one, or share it with Slovaks after January 1993 ?). They can't give
a definite answer because there is no specific scheme for these things
for the first half of 1993. Probably after July 1, 1993 there will be a
separate scheme for Czech Republic and Slovakia... But your trouble will
be with DILGEA (Department of Immigration, Local Government and Ethnic
Affairs - what a great Australian bureaucratic construction !), because
they do not favour people to take foreign citizenships when they already
have the Australian one. The other way is much easier - one can get the
Australian citizenship while holding the one of Czecho-Slovakia (or
whatever will come in 1993).
S krajansky'm pozdravom,
Lubos
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From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: Re: ilankai oLiparappu koottu thabanam - A reminiscence
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 21:02:44 GMT

In <1992Nov13.162020.20091@menudo.uh.edu> aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Affable) writes:


> Recollecting some of my favorite programs.
>"puduveLLam" - Daily morning 7.00am. New songs. My day usually started
>with this program.

>"udayaavin paattukkup paattu"- Sundays afternoon.Compere B.H.Abdul Hamid.
>This was always fun to listen. You could hear all the songs in typical
>Srilankan tamil voice. Some of the competitors' knowledge about tamil
>movie songs was really awesome. Not to mention about K.S.Raja's talent.

>" Nikkadovin... " - I don't remember the program's name. The competitor
>had to speak about something for about three minutes and should avoid
>a particular word. (eg) upayokapaduththavENdiya sol: kinaru.
>thavirkkavENdiya sol: thaNNeer. Some rules were there like no word had
>to be repeated three times.


    The average srilankan tamizh is a lot better than average indian tamizh.
They do not use english words as most indians do. tamizh will flourish
in srilanka after the problem is settled. In TN, tamizh will be question mark?

Kathiravan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: akn8257@ritvax.isc.rit.edu ( Arun )
Subject: Re: enRRum anpudan!
Reply-To: akn8257@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:30:58 GMT

In article <fb78.721675994@sol>, fb78@sol.acs.unt.edu (Ganesh Gopalakrishnan) writes:
>kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi) writes:
>
>Also, has any body seen any hard data (empirical evidence)
>as to who have benefited from the TN reservation policies?
>Has it really gone to the weak and underprivileged? I'm
>sure some of it has, but surely some of it has gone to
>privileged people who were able to "produce" appropriate
>documentation?
>
>Just some thoughts. That's all. Personally, I believe that
>TN has explosive talent that will bloom in a free-enterprise
>oriented Indian economy, but to take full advantage of it,
>it has to put its own house in order. Help the disadvantaged,
>by all means (free education, clothing, meals, additional
>coaching at the school level etc) enabling them to compete.
>But penalizing talented children because of "past misdeeds"
>of a different generation is simply not "pahuththaRivu"!
>
>- ganesh


It is my belief that reservation system is one of the main reasons
for our poor work ethics.

- Arun.