From: VINER%BGUVM.bitnet@TAUNIVM.TAU.AC.IL (Dov Winer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Computer Jobs in Israel - an initiative by Jacob Richman (Part 1 -
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Date: 29 Jul 1992 07:35:08 -0500
Organization: Ben-Gurion University, Beer-Sheva, Israel
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 13:44:40 +0300
From: warren@itexjct.jct.ac.il (Warren Burstein)
Message-Id: <9207291044.AA21801@itexjct.jct.ac.il>
To: jo@ilncrd.bitnet, viner@bguvm.bgu.ac.il, heasif@shum.huji.ac.il
Subject: a message from Jacob Richman

Jacob Richman (jrichman@itexjct.jct.ac.il) can't send mail, asked me
to send this to you.  Looks to me like he's doing something useful
which ought to get out on the computer somehow.  Anyone have any
suggestions?

                                                       July 27, 1992
Jo, Dov, Avrum, Warren,
Hi. A few months ago I left Intel and my Intel internet account left me. I am
now working at a very good place in Talpiot. I started to think of ideas to
get a full Internet account. I thought of an idea (not related to an account),
which I think could be very beneficial to many people.
Attached below is a possible idea for a new distribution list/digest
on Nysernet that would benefit all those who are living or thinking about
living in Israel. Every Sunday evening (for some time now) I cut out all
the computer ads from the major newspapers. Sunday night and Monday Evening
I sit and review the ads with olim. I also save all the back ads for olim
that visit and want to see which companies use what equipment/software even
though they may not be placing an ad right now. I have been in bed with a
bad virus for the past 4-5 days but I found some time to type in this past
weekend's ads. I used EDIT and my hunt and peck method - never again!
It took many hours. What is needed is a good typist and a good word-proces-
sor or data-entry program. Here is the bottom line:
I have been doing this as a hobby for some time, getting referrals from
friends,AACI,Leshkat Haavoda,Consulats,etc... I am going to continue to
cut and paste the ads in any case.
On Monday morning on the way to work, or Monday evening I can drop the
pages off for someone to type them into a system. By Tuesday, Israelis,
Olim,potential Olim will see there really are jobs in Israel (in real-
time). To the best of my knowledge there is no up-to-date computer job
listing in this country (repeat: up-to-date). Think of all the Aliyah
organizations that this can benefit. The Internet, Keshernet, ICCA are
just a few possible places to post this. Unfortunately I do not have that
much time in the week to devote (Except Sunday Evenings + part Monday
evenigs). Whichever organization would type this in can take credit for
their part. If it helps someone out there find a job or make Aliyah then
it is worthwile.
Let me know what you think.
I can receive (only) mail at JRICHMAN@ITEXJCT.JCT.AC.IL
or I can be reached by phone at: (02) 352-520
Jacob Richman
PS This weekend contained 110 positions from 70 companies.


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Computer Jobs In Israel - 920726.CJI              Edited by: Jacob Richman
                                                             Israel
"Computer Jobs In Israel" may be re-distributed
 for free as long as it is not changed.

 Reason #840,830 to make Aliyah: "There are jobs in Israel"
===========================================================================
 CJII9208.FAQ = How to find a job in the computer field in Israel.
                (available soon)
===========================================================================
Key:  ANAl.   = Analyst                SYSANA. = Systems Analyst
      CE.     = Computer Engineer      SYSPGM. = Systems Programmer
      PGMER.  = Programmer             TECH.   = Technician
      SYS.    = Systems                TECHWR. = Technical Writer
      SYSADM. = Systems Administrator

      ADV.   = Advantageous            HEB.   = Hebrew Required
      COMM.  = Communications          HEBM.  = Hebrew mother tongue
      COMP.  = Computer                KNOW.  = Knowledgeable in
      ENG.   = English Required        LOC.   = Location (must live in area)
      ENGM.  = English mother tongue   NOEXP. = No experience required
      EXP.   = Experience required     POS#:  = Posistion/Job #
      GRAD.  = Graduate                SOFT.  = Software
      HARD.  = Hardware                YR.    = # Years of Experience required

      GV  = Grape Vine (unconfirmed)
      JP  = Jerusalem Post
      KH  = Kol Hair (Jerusalem Local)
      MA  = Ma'ariv
      PAC = People and Computers (Israel Computerworld)
      YA  = Yediot Ahronot

          Location         Telephone A.C.  Zip Codes
      ----------------     --------------  ---------
        Be'er Sheva          057             84XXX
        Eilat                059             88XXX
        Haifa                04              31XXX
        Herzliya             052             46XXX
        Jerusalem Area       02              9XXXX
        Ramat Gan            03              52XXX
        Ramat HaSharon       03              47XXX
        Rehovot              08              76XXX
        Tel-Aviv + Gush Dan  03              6XXXX
===========================================================================
 Excerpts from CJII9208.FAQ (to be released soon)

        -  In my opinion, 98% of the job offers will only be made when you are
           living in Israel. Do not expect a return phone call or mail if your
           current address is outside of Israel.
        -  When possible, cover letters should be written or typed in Hebrew.
        -  Most companies advertise internally before placing ad's.
        -  No ad's this week/month for you does not mean there are no jobs
           in your area. Companies have different ways to find employees.
===========================================================================
Notes about listings:

        a. If more then one job is listed by a company or agency then a
           semicolon (;) will separate the jobs.
        b. If I could not translate a company name I will put the Hebrew
           pronunciation in quotes. You must address these in Hebrew or
           just leave out the name altogether.
        c. Unless otherwise noted, address all envelopes to Personnel Dept.
        c. An ad address (especially an agency) may not be the job location
        d. Some ad's have only a POB and zipcode or town. It will get there.
        e. If an ad has a position # write it on the envelope
        f. If an ad contains a technical mistake I may/may not correct it.

===========================================================================
Computer Jobs In Israel - 920726.CJI
===========================================================================

Ref# Pub.  Pub Date          Position + Description
==== ====  =========  =====================================================
1.   KH    Jul-24-92  Support Engineer - Comp.Grad,C,Windows Develop. Tools,
     JP                                  OOP Adv.

     Contact: Microsoft Israel, 22 Tuval, Ramat Gan, 52522
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2.   KH    Jul-24-92  PC TECH. - maintain pc computers, network, software
                      for an office of 50 pgmers. Novell file servers,
                      2yr EXP. PC HARD. + SOFT.

     Contact: News Datacom, POB 23012, Jerusalem 91235
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3.   KH    Jul-24-92  Senior PGMER. - 5yr EXP. with relational databases,
                      distributed systems, COMM., networks.
                      KNOW. C + Unix on Sun,HP,IBM a must.
                      Sysbase, Oracle ADV.

     Contact: POB 23875, Jerusalem 91237
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4.   KH    Jul-24-92  Magic PGMER. - 2YR EXP.,Systems Analysis ADV.,LOC.JER

     Contact: POB 20139, Tel-Aviv 61201
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5.   KH    Jul-24-92  PGMER. - EXP. MAC, PC ADV., Workstation ADV.,SQL/DB
     MA
     Contact: "Cassette", POB 33200, Tel-Aviv
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6.   KH    Jul-24-92  COMP.GRAD.,EXP. in Quatro, Dbase III, Novell

     Contact: Manpower, Yaffo 33, Jerusalem   Tel:(02) 254-440
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7.   KH    Jul-24-92  Oracle PGMER. - 3YR EXP., Unix,SQR,SQL FORMS ORACLE

     Contact: Antiquities Authority, POB 586, Jerusalem 91004
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8.   KH    Jul-24-92  Software Trainer

     Contact: "Chashavshevet" (02) 244-761
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9.   KH    Jul-24-92  PGMER. AS/400 Cobol, LOC.Central, Pos.#:103,104;
                      PGMER. OS/2, PM, LOC.CENTRAL, Pos.#:602;
                      PC Support, KNOW."Automated Office PKG",LOC.CENTRAL,143;
                      Senior Systems, MVS, Security Clearance,LOC.CENTRAL,141;
                      SAS support, IBM-MF,MVS,VAX-VMS,LOC.CENTRAL,144;
                      PGMER.ANALY, DB2,Oracle, Security Clear.,LOC.CEN,601;
                      PGMER., IMS,Cobol,Telon,Finance,LOC.CEN,149;
                      PGMER.ANALY, Adabas, Natural2,LOC:CEN,621,LOC:NORTH,101

     Contact: Formula Systems, Derech Hashalom 2, Tel-Aviv 67892
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10.  YA    Jul-24-92  PGMER 80386, C, RMX, Real time;
                      PGMER Vax, real time, QIO, internals

     Contact: GIGA LTD, Derech Ben Zvi 84, Tel-Aviv    (03) 817-888
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11.  YA    Jul-24-92  TECHWR - KNOW. of electronics, computer COMM.,
                      ENGM, KNOW. Word Proces. + DTP

     Contact: Galcom, POB 1568, Ramat Hasharon 47113 "Technical Writer"
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12.  YA    Jul-24-92  Development - C, system engineer, Unix, GRAD. OK;
                      COMM. Support person;
                      VLSI development

     Contact: Intel Israel (74) LTD, POB 1659, Haifa 31015
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13.  YA    Jul-24-92  Project Leader - 5YR EXP.,ENG.,supervise PGMERS.,
                      work with International exporters ADV., Pos#:998

     Contact: BRM Technologies C/O G.R. Institue,POB 50264,Tel-Aviv 68012
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14.  YA  Jul-24-92    Soft.Trainer - Alef-Bet,Wordmill,Einstein,afternoons

     Contact: (03) 524-3070, (03) 222-266
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
15.  YA  Jul-24-92    Trainer/Support - DOS, Networks,LOC.Central

     Contact: "ROSH TOV" (03) 532-2466
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16.  YA  Jul-24-92    Computer Engineer, PC HARD., SOFT. Trainer
     MA
     Contact: "YERPA MECHASHVEM",Kinneret 15, Bnai Brak 51201
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17.  YA  Jul-24-92    System Engineer, AS400 Operation,OCL,installation,
                      COMM., PC, program"PC-SUPPORT" emulation,
                      RPG,QUERY,Cobol ADV. LOC:T.A.

     Contact: Manpower - Sherly (03) 298-877
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18.  YA  Jul-24-92    PGMER. - PC, C, Assembler, networks,COMM.,ENG.

     Contact: POB 3043, Herzliya
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19.  YA    Jul-24-92  PGMER. - FOXPRO2,C,Novell,GUI

     Contact: POB 22512 Tel-Aviv
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20.  YA    Jul-24-92  Trainer/Telephone Support - part-time,drivers license

     Contact: (03) 751-2576
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21.  YA   Jul-24-92   C PGMER. - Unix, PC ADV.

     Contact: (03) 639-1122
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22.  YA    Jul-24-92  Finished course in Cobol/RPG;
                      Computer Operator - out of army, drivers license

     Contact: "Maagrey Ehnosh" (03) 934-5662
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23.  YA    Jul-24-92  PC PGMER. - MSDOS, C

     Contact: Herzliya  (052) 570-279
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24.  YA    Jul-24-92  Magic PGMER. - driver license a must, LOC:T.A.

     Contact: (03) 492-232
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25.  YA    Jul-24-92  Lead PGMER. - Unix/MS-Windows/DOS or RMX, Pos#:0703;
                      PGMER. - Unix/MS-Windows/DOS, Pos#:0706;
                      Unix PGMER - 3YR EXP.,Databases, real time,
                                   COMM. ADV., Pos#:0708;
                      Real Time PGMER. - 2YR EXP. real time or COMM.,
                                   TCP/IP-1 INTEL-RMX ADV., Pos#:0709;
                      Development of Telecommunication systems - real time,
                                   muti-tasking, INTEL-RMX ADV.,Pos#:0707;
                      Communication Specialist - real time, 3YR LAN/WAN,
                         One or more is ADV.: Token-Ring, Ethernet,TCP/IP,
                         INTEL-RMX, writing drivers, Pos#:0710;
                      SYSADMIN - MRP under UNIX, Unix a must, C, Informix,
                                 COMM. ADV., Pos#: 0740

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Dov Winer
Ben Gurion University
Internet : viner at bguvm.bgu.ac.il
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish