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From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Missing scenes cut from Star Wars
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:23:31 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Nov10.122713.1@uwovax.uwo.ca> 4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (Dark Lord of the Sith) writes:
> Biggs name is 
>mentioned only once (by Uncle Owen) in the entire film and is not even seen
>until the Luke spots Biggs during the Death Star battle preparation scene.

Um, not quite.  Biggs is mentioned at least twice before he's shown,
both times by Luke.  Right after they buy R2-D2 and C-3PO, and Luke
is with them in the garage (playing with the model of the T-16),
Luke mutters something like, "Biggs is right, I'll never get out
of here."  Later, while at dinner with Owen and Beru, when Owen
tells Luke he wants Luke to wait before going to the Academy
("It's just one more season.") Luke says, "That's what you said
when Biggs and Tank left."  I don't think anyone else references
Biggs by name.

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Date: Thu,  5 Nov 1992 11:02:31 -0500 
From: "Nathanel J. Barlow" <nb2b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: REAL CHALLENGING QUESTION
Distribution: rec.arts.sf.starwars

In message <AKHIL.92Nov4154516@stokes.ae.utexas.edu>, Akhil Vidwans writes:

>In the battle of the bunker in ROTJ when Leia
>gets hurt, two stormtroopers (yes 2) challenge
>Han ( who is tending to Leia ) from behind. 
>Leia draws her blaster, Han gets out of the way,
>ans she blows away one of the stormtroopers.
>What happens to the other?

I only recall seeing one get hit, but I could have sworn I heard two
blaster shots.  I assume both were hit, but we only see one.

Nate
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:19:32 EST
From: <DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: RE: return of the pissant figures 2.


In article <1992Nov5.213627.2612@bvc.edu>, meierdalepau@bvc.edu says:
>
>BTW--the trash compactor in the Death Star playset didn't even have a
>dianoga figure (that I know of).  Whatta gyp....
>
>Dale Meier

 Yeah, it did. It was big and green. The assumption was apparently that
the Dia Noga actually had a big sharklike lower body, with the part visible
in Star Wars being only the head. Maybe this figure is worth something?
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From: scavanag@neumann.une.edu.au (Steven Cavanagh)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Archive News. X-wing demo
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:59:31 GMT
Reply-To: scavanag@neumann.une.edu.au
Originator: scavanag@neumann.une.edu.au

From article <1dk70kINN4ug@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, by ss@realsoon.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter):
> The X-wing simulator slide show demo for PC, is now on the archive.
> The file is called xwngslds.zip 
> Just download it, unzip it, and exectute the .exe file. Looks cool...
> 

Does it ever!! and I just got a reply to a post I put in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
saying that your R2 unit talks to you!! (via the little screen like Artoo does
to luke). However, I saw no sign of the pop-down targeting 'puter.


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From: delledg@jake.cc.wayne.edu (De Vaughn Elledge)
Subject: Re: Wookiee Christmas special!
Reply-To: delledg@jake.cc.wayne.edu
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit, MI 48202
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 21:44:56 GMT


I vaguely remember this program also but I think Harrison Ford was also in this 
specail. I keep remembering a scene where Han was holding a vine talking to Chewy
who was obviously excited about something. they were standing in front of Chewys
home on his home planet. I can't remember if this program came out before or after
ROTJ.

In article 1e0rl4INN201@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu, blairbs@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Brian S Blair) writes:
> In article <BxF898.DI1@well.sf.ca.us> rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao)  
> writes:
> > 
> > Does anyone remember the Wookiee Christmas special which was on TV
> > around 1978 or so? The only thing I liked about it was an animated
> > sequence about somebody like Boba Fett. Who made that segment?
> > 
> > One funny thing about this show was that Mark Hammill was in it but
> > he had some much makeup on that he looked almost like 3PO.
> > 
> > Do you have interesting memories of this show? Was anyone else in it
> > from the actual film (besides Chewie)?
> > -- 
> > Robert Chao
> > Oakland, California
> 
> I vaguely remember something with a bunch of wookies, but I was 
> very young back then so I can't be sure.
> 
> Brian Blair
> Rose-Hulman Institute of Tech.


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From: paul@pj.tmc.edu (Thorongil)
Subject: Re: Cute dinosaur scene cut from SW  
Organization: Mississippi State University ERC
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:20:33 GMT

>OK let's all kill the thread about Biggs, but what about the stormtrooper
>on the big dino? My brother, I will repeat, is a DINO freak, and insists that
>in the theatre there exists a CLOSEUP, just likes card #24 of Topps Star Wars,
>of the white guy on the cute green DINO. I think that there a LOT of Tatooine
>scenes (new threads/controversies guys?), that were cut for the final edit
>and for film continuity. 

I saw the dino scene in Star Wars, but the dino was in the background
where the stormtrooper picks up the metal ring and says "Look sir, droids!"

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From: DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Cute dinosaur scene cut from SW
Date: 13 Nov 92 01:08:42 GMT
 <1992Nov11.215708.14742@ll.mit.edu>
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Nov11.215708.14742@ll.mit.edu>, shoham@ll.mit.edu (Daniel
Shoham) says:
>
>C3-PO walks past the bones of a rather larger animal just before being
>"rescued" by the Jawas. Hence, such large creatures must populate the planet.
>Rancor (Jabba's pet monster that Luke killed), may be of the specie that those
>bones belong to. Would you classify Rancor as a dino?
>
>What do you guys think?

  Well, if you believe Dark Empire ( emphasis on the IF ) the Rancors are
indigenous to a different planet (..."the Ottethan forests" ) .
  However, the bones that you mention were of a far different shape than
the Rancor seen in ROTJ. The skeleton seen in ANH was long and sinuous;
I believe that the inclusion of this scene in ANH is considered by many to
be Lucas' homage to Frank Herbert's Dune, as the skeleton suggests one
of Herbert's sandworms.



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From:  (Greg Baicher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: STAR WARS versus GALACTICA
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:21:54 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.starwars,rec.arts.sf.tv
Organization: Apple


 
>      I have seen the (cropped) VHS versions of the Star Wars trilogy 
> several times, and while nothing, I repeat, nothing (that means you,
> trekkies!) can beat the magic of Star Wars, I have been wondering out loud
> if there are any Star Wars fans out there who are not ashamed to admit
> that they enjoyed television's Battlestar Galactica.
> 
>      This show appeared a full year after the release of Star Wars, and
> with Ralph McQuarrie supplying many of the art prints and Star Wars' own
> John Dykstra supplying the special FX for the first dozen television hours,
> comparisons with Star Wars were inevitable. This show was the subject of
> lawsuits and counter lawsuits between 20th Century Fox and Universal Studios.
> And after 23 very expensive television hours (not unlike Young Indiana Jones
> Chronicles) died a horrible death in 1980.
> 
>      I enjoyed this show week after week, and fully distinguished between it
> and the unbeatable Star Wars, but to this day, not one television series
> (this includes you Trekkies!) can add up to the adventure, action and charm 
> of Battlestar Galactica. Starbuck, Apollo, Commander Adama and the rest of
> the gang were part of my life for several years after the death (and ugly
> Galactica 1980 resurrection) of this show.
> 
>      I would like a few comments on this subject, as I have no shame in
> proclaiming my love for both Star Wars and Galactica.
>
-->What's there to be ashamed about.  Galactica was hot.  There was a lot
more adventure than in the sterile new Star Trek.  Wipe that smug little
smile off your face Picard!  I'm pretty sure I've seen all the episodes. 
Hopefully it will rerun on the new sci-fi cable channel.
-Starbuck.
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From: yyrkoon@felix.engin.umich.edu (Jeffrey Jon Kabbe )
Subject: Galactica and stuff
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 14:52:59 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: yyrkoon@felix.engin.umich.edu


Two things:

First:
	Yay! Star Wars second ed RPG out!!!!

Second:

	I have been watching Galactica on the Sci Fi channel and it credits
a fella named Johnny Williams with the score.


Jeff = Yyrkoon
From: meierdalepau@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: RE:  return of the pissant figures 2.
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:36:27 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

BTW--the trash compactor in the Death Star playset didn't even have a 
dianoga figure (that I know of).  Whatta gyp....

Dale Meier
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: law30056@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN KEN HWEE)
Subject: Re: Prequal Plot Scenarios
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:42:31 GMT

Yawn.  *This* is supposed to be *funny* ?
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From: rku45136@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Rajiv Udani)
Subject: Re: WANTED: SW RADIO SHOW, EWOKS MOVIES, THANKSGIVING SPECIAL
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:30:17 GMT


The Ewok movies ("The Ewok Adventure" and "Battle for Endor") are available
commercially at most Video stores (for sale or rent).
Something that wasn't mentioned that may be of interest to Star Wars fans
is also the Ewoks and Droids Cartoon series that ran a few years ago. I think I have some on videotape somewhere back home, but I don't have all of them.
Maybe someone on this newsgroup has all the cartoons...

raj
From: 907fanjoy@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Cliff Claven Figure
Date: 5 Nov 92 10:40:22 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <Nov.4.19.50.47.1992.22913@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, heerdege@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Juergen Heerdegen) writes:
> 907fanjoy@gw.wmich.edu writes:
> 
> 
>>	Under one of the posts, someone pointed out that the guy who 
>>plays Cliff Claven the Mailman in Cheers also had a part in TESB.  He
>>played the guy on Hoth that said to Leia, "I'm sorry.  We've done all we can, 
>>but we'll have to close the shield doors."
> 
> Is this for real?

	You bet this is for real.  The actor's name is John Ratzenberger,
and he's in the credits somewhere.  I have yet to watch TESB after hearing 
this, for fear I might laugh at this otherwise-somber moment in the movie.

		--Dave "Y-WaBFaC" Fanjoy


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From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Subject: Re: Missing scene - ROTJ
Reply-To: bwebster@pages.com
Organization: Banzai Research Institute
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:53:21 GMT

In article <BxJ5rx.HA4@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> dgebhard@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (David  
Gebhard) writes:
> When ROTJ was first released in theatres, I seem to remember
> seeing the monster in Jabba's pit killing the dancing girl. In
> later viewings, both on screen and tape, after the girl gets thrown
> into the pit, the film cuts away. Was this an editorial 
> decision made after release? Was it just changed on tape? Or, is 
> my memory at fault? Does anyone else recall such a scene?
> 

I think your memory is at fault. I saw ROTJ the night before its official  
premier at a special fund-raising showing up in LA ($25/ticket) and very much  
remember that scene _not_ showing what was killing the girl. ..bruce..

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From: un032221@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: CHALLENGING QUESTIONS
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:28:38 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

In article <dgoldman.720559954@Xenon.Stanford.EDU>, dgoldman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Daniel Robert Goldman) writes:
> joea@wpi.WPI.EDU (The Mighty Vanguard) writes:
>>2.  The ships are equipped with an anti-gravity device that utilizes 
>>anti-gravitons to create a constant sense of 'down'.  This device is probably 
> 
> If I remember correctly, the Millenium Falcon has a "gravity well", where
> the ship's downward gravity is turned topsy-turvy.  When Han and Luke go to
> the ship's blasters, one of them goes up a ladder, and the other goes down the
> ladder.  Evidently, the ship's turrets are on the "top" and "bottom" of the
> ship (Somebody stop me if I'm seriously wrong).  However, when we next see them,
> they are strapping themselves into chairs facing directly away from each other!
> Remember the line "Don't get cocky, kid" (or something to that effect) after
> Luke hits his first Tie fighter?  Han turns around and looks down (up?) the 
> hallway between them, which is clearly that same ladder.  This indicates that 
> the gravity generators are very localizable, so that there can be multiple 
> gravity fields in a single ship.  Is my impression of this scene correct, or
> does somebody have a better understanding of the Millenium Falcon's floorplan
> than I do?

	Exactly correct!  Read the _Han Solo Adventures_ and it explains this
damn near verbaitm (ok, not verbatim, but the exact same idea).
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From: lllowen@netcom.com (lllowen)
Subject: Re: R2D2 in Raiders of the Lost Ark
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 06:26:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.214926.5526@desire.wright.edu> 
jdcollins@desire.wright.edu writes:
>
>I just checked my copy of Raiders and took a good look a the shots 
>of the pole.  While the object on top of the pole looked somewhat like R2's
>head at first glance, it turned out to be only a lamp.
>

I disagree.  Watch the entire scene...from beginning to end.  Sure, 9
out of the 10 cuts it is only a lamp, but there is one scene where the
'lamp' DEFINITELY is changed into something else.  I say R2's head.
It's only up there for one cut and flys by quick.  (I'm sorry, I do not
have a copy of Raider's to view and point out exactly where and what cut.) 
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From: Ray.Chramega <Ray.Chramega@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Re: Robbie the Robot... Not Robbie!
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:37:12 GMT

In <1992Nov9.221050.1@uwovax.uwo.ca> 4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (Dark Lord of the Sith) writes:

>In article <1992Nov9.174358.6256@gw.wmich.edu>, x91newcastl1@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>> R2D2 and C3PO in _Raiders_:  picture of actual wall with them chisled into it.

>    All right, who remembers when Luke was buying the droids for his soon to be
>deceased uncle. Who remembers a black tall robot being sold. Give it a pair
>of arms and what do you have.... the original Robbie the Robot, star of 
>Forbidden Planet and dozens of Twilight Zone episodes.

>    Just my opinions (I just happen to be right all of the time) 
>-- 

     You're talking about the MARK II REACTOR DRONE from the ROBOT AUCTION.
A special utility droid designed for menial labor. Such droids are
characteristically cumbersome in appearance because of the heavy shielding
used to protect their sensitive internal circuitry.
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From: JXD132@psuvm.psu.edu (Mumbles)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Quote
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:30:03 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

In article <Bx7ALC.K2y@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve
Stelter) says:
>
>knutt@ifi.uio.no (Knut Torgersen) writes:
>
>
>>From which of the tree movies is this one:
>
>>       What is a magician but a practising theorist?
>>                      -- Obi-Wan Kenobi
>
>As far as I know, it's not from any of the movies.  It could be from one
>of the novels, though, in which case "Star Wars" would probably be the
>book to check, as Ben doesn't have too many lines in the other two...
>
>
>                                       --Steve Stelter
>                                         sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
It is from the novelization of ANH.

--Jim Durrell
  JXD132 @ PSUVM.PSU.EDU
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From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: More CHALLENGING QUESTIONS-IF YOU DARE!!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:44:52 GMT

jhouze@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jonathan Brice Houze) writes:

>In article <1992Nov6.134157.15861@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> CS19240954R@LUST.LATROBE.EDU.AU (JENKINS, MICHAEL) writes:
>>
>>Could someone explain to me why the DS bothered to take the time to orbit the
>>planet to get to the rebel base when they could have just blown it away???
>>Seemed like a bit of a waste of time to me...
>>
>>				Jenx.

>I seem to remember that Yavin was a gas giant. I don't know whether there
>is any official dource for this impression, but if you think about it, the
>rebel base was located on a pretty terrestrial looking world. Since it was a 
>MOON of Yavin, that means that Yavin must be pretty damn big -- perhaps
>comparable to Jupiter.

>Since the Empire probably designed the Death Star with the purpose of blowing
>up Earth-type worlds (ie Alderaan) it seems reasonable to suppose that
>the Empire's ultimate battle station just wasn't up to the job of blasting
>Yavin to little bits.

I'm with you so far, but why not just blow up the moon on which the Rebel
base is located?

                                  --Steve Stelter
                                    sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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From: Jem.Lewis@launchpad.unc.edu (Jem Lewis)
Subject: Re: STAR WARS vs GALACTICA vs STAR TREK
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:57:58 GMT

In article <BxJ53x.G2u@nic.umass.edu> HDW@UCSVAX (H D WALDEN) writes:
>	I WISH TREKKIES WOULD STICK TO THEIR OWN NEWSGROUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
>
Hey!  Some of us are both, you know.  I like StarWars, StarTrek,
Battlestar Galactica, Buck Rogers,  etc, etc.  Sure, Trek has its share of
problems, BUT SO DOES EVERY OTHER SCI-FI MEDIUM (show, movie, book,
cartoon, comic book, etc) IN EXISTANCE  up to and including (Gasp!)
StarWars.  And if you don't believe that you haven't been reading this ,
YOUR newsgroup.  So get a life and buy a muzzle.

I AM a Trekkie, (and proud of it , too) and I belong to the Trek
newsgroups.  HOWEVER, I am also a StarWars fan, and I read this newsgroup
as well.  Therefore, I am in my own newsgroup, and as a fan of both
universes, it seems like a reasonable thing to compare the relative merits
of both.  Whew!  Tirade over.  Back to your regularly scheduled network.

	Jem   jlewis@polar.bowdoin.edu  

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From: DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Star Wars, Star Trek, Star Madness!!
Date: 13 Nov 92 01:40:36 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Nov11.202010.1@vax1.umkc.edu>, jpurcell@vax1.umkc.edu says:
>
>     Star Trek was created a good decade before ANH.
>
>While some of the episodes were repeats of previous episodes, if there
>had not been Trekkies and others who were drawn into SiFi shows, then
>there may not have been any Star Wars in the first place.
>
>     As with all literature and Fiction, there are basically two types:
>1)  The feasable
>
>2)  The incredible
>
>     Star Trek was popular because it gave those who watched it a sense of
>"Hey, mayby someday this could really happen".
>
>I mean, I like SW and ST, but let's face it:  Star Wars Technology is just
>a little on the unbelievable side.  Of course, this adds to the overall
>purpose
>of the movies.  A little bit of realism is OK, but too much can be
>deadly!!!!!!
>

 What about transporter technology? This isn't seen at all in SW -
because it's basically VERY hard to believe, at least in any time
frame anywhere near our own. And Star Trek also has fully operational
cloaking devices, while in SW cloaking devices are still pretty much
in an experimental/theoretical phase. Meanwhile, ST is set in the
( relatively! ) near future, while SW is set at some indeterminate
point ( with "a long time ago..." taken for what it really means ).
It seems to me that SW keeps the technology pretty believable when
compared to ST.

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