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From: helen@pulua.hcc.hawaii.edu (Helen Rapozo)
Subject: Re: The cost of Psychiatric help has gone up!
Keywords: Lucy, Charlie Brown, inflation, psychiatric help
Organization: Honolulu Community College
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 22:43:09 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.181415.28469@midway.uchicago.edu> beaker@ford.uchicago.edu (Mike Aguilar) writes:
>
>Did anyone notice that in Thursday's (9/10/92) 'Peanuts' strip, Lucy's
>fee for 'psychiatric help' had gone up to 47 cents?  Has this been
>the case for some time now?  The last i remember, the fee was
>5 cents.  Is this some sort of subtle statment about inflation?
>Or a sarcastic comment on this country's economic condition?
>Or perhaps Lucy's had to increase costs due to malpractice suits?
************
I noticed that too!  I think that Lucy did raise the price to 
7 cents some years ago but may have set it back to 5 cents again.



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From: panda@syrinx.umd.edu (Lisa Nyman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Sally Forth (was Re: DOONESBURY's back)
Date: 12 Sep 92 16:26:52 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park

In article <18rf53INNlm9@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> carolo@cse.ucsc.edu (Carol Osterbrock) writes:
>
>Yeah, what's the deal with Sally Forth?  Some time ago, the drawing
>took a nose dive, obviously an artist change.  My mother told me that
>the guy who writes it had always thought his drawing was crummy and
>got somebody else to do it for him.  I thought the original drawing
>was great, well, I guess there are some that I think are better, but
>the new stuff is, well, lame.
>
I think the drawing in Sally  Forth is %100 better since the new
drawing partner arrived.  The panels change, there are things in the house,
the people aren't all fat squares....

>-- 
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From: dct@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David C. Tuttle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: More on ETAOIN SHRDLU
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:43:15 GMT

br105@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey A. Del Col) writes:
>
>After posting my reply about ETAOIN SHRDLU I realized that it needed a
>bit more explanation.  Linotype operators used that group of letters to cast 
>a test "slug" to see whether the machine was working properly, i.e.. if it
>was heating the type metal to the proper temperature, etc...

Also, when an operator made a typo, which can't be immediately
corrected because you can't backspace a hot lead Linotype, the
operator would mark it by typing ETAION SHRDLU, which is quickly done
by running the index fingers over those rows, then hit RETURN and
re-type the line.

The proofreader would then remove all lines ending with ETAOIN
SHRDLU.  Occasionally, the proofreader would miss such a line and
leave it in the finished product.  I'm told that old newspapers
contained the phrase quite often.

This is getting a bit far afield from comic strips...  But that's what
it is, and why you see the phrase mentioned in Pynchon, Garrison
Keillor, Pogo, etc.
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From: scotbri@flower.samsung.com (Scott Brigham, corp)
Subject: Re: In Defense of _Sally Forth_ (Was Re: DOONESBURY's back)
Originator: scotbri@flower
Organization: Rosemount, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:46:42 GMT

> 
> Our local paper gets both _Sally Forth_ and _Doonesbury_ (alas,
> _Doonesbury_ appears on the editorial page of the morning paper, and
> we get the evening paper, so I rarely see it -- thank goddess for
> collections).  
> 
> When _Sally Forth_ first appeared, I found it to be both funny and
> well-drawn.  But a year or so ago, Greg Howard decided to pick up a
> co-creator to actually draw the strip based on his scripts, claiming
> that "Mac's" artistic skills were much better than his own.  A lot of
> people disagreed, and complained, and they made some changes.  The
> strip is closer to what it was like, but with slightly more detailed
> artwork.
> 
Greg Howard is a Minneapolis-based cartoonist and Sally Forth appears here
in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.  He used to draw it himself and as another
poster mentioned earlier, he felt that his drawing wasn't that good and
hooked up withe "Mac" to do the drawing.  "Mac" is Craig MacIntosh who
is a staff artist for the Star-Tribune.  He usually does drawings to go
along with articles on the Opinion page.  I was surprised that his Sally
Forth drawings are not so hot because I've always been impressed with
his other artwork in the paper.
=======================
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=======================
From: tbromley@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Thomas Bromley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: For Better for Worse on TV
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:38:59 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

bn823@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter Mullaney) writes:

> 
> In a previous article, duperval@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Duperval Laurent) says:
> 
> >I just read in today's (Sept 11) Montreal Gazette that Lynn Johnston's strip
> >will be made into 6 half hour shows to be broadcast this fall on CTV.  I saw
> 
> Did it say anything about being shown in the States?
> 
The Disney Channel is already running these programs in the U.S.  
Probably one a month, as the first, which premiered during a fall free 
preview weekend, and has aired a few times since.
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From: dube@carson.u.washington.edu (Ric Dube)
Subject: Re: For Better for Worse on TV
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:46:21 GMT

duperval@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Duperval Laurent) writes:

>I just read in today's (Sept 11) Montreal Gazette that Lynn Johnston's strip
>will be made into 6 half hour shows to be broadcast this fall on CTV.  I saw a

Is this CTV the Canadian TV station I have on my cable?  If it helps, I
subscribe to Seattle's Viacom cable service.

I really really would like to know when these shows are aired so that I
can see 'em, tape 'em, and share 'em (not for profit of course, no flames
please).
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From: rebecca@netcom.com (Rebecca Davis)
Subject: Pogophiles -- More Book/Misc. items Info
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 20:30:18 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: Pogo/Walt Kelly

I don't know if this info has been posted before, but Pogophiles
may like to know that Walt Kelly's progeny have an organization
that sells new & old Pogo books & paraphernalia (including
$expensive$ original art, 92 campaign posters & just about every
POGO book ever printed)

You can call 1-800-GET-POGO or write 47 Euclid Ave., dept. 21, Stamford,
CT  06902

I bought two used books from them and they were in excellent condition.

They'll also send a free newsletter with all their product info.

.
From: rjung@aludra.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: DOONESBURY's back
Date: 7 Sep 1992 17:19:20 -0700
Organization: Southern California Lynx Enthusiasts
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

What, no net.bandwidth at all on the return of Garry Trudeau from his hiatus
and his newest round of DOONESBURY strips?

(For those who missed it, he's starting a "random survey of strip characters
for adherence to 'family values'. Joanie and Rick just struck out...)

                                                --R.J.
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From: carolo@cse.ucsc.edu (Carol Osterbrock)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Sally Forth (was Re: DOONESBURY's back)
Date: 12 Sep 1992 00:54:59 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (CE/CIS Boards)
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In article <schnitzi.716143526@eola.cs.ucf.edu> schnitzi@cs.ucf.edu (Mark Schnitzius) writes:

>During the hiatus my paper replaced it with Sally Forth,
>a particularly lame and poorly drawn comic strip.

Yeah, what's the deal with Sally Forth?  Some time ago, the drawing
took a nose dive, obviously an artist change.  My mother told me that
the guy who writes it had always thought his drawing was crummy and
got somebody else to do it for him.  I thought the original drawing
was great, well, I guess there are some that I think are better, but
the new stuff is, well, lame.

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From: 11srust@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Scott A. Rust)
Subject: Re: 9-9-92 "B.C."
Organization: Gallaudet University English Dept
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 16:31:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.194308.26372@stsci.edu>, wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan) writes:
> 
> I am surprised to see no comment on the 9-9-92 "B.C." strip.  It had
> two panels, and was a "Wiley's Dictionary" entry.
> 
> 1st panel:  "R-U-4-86"
> 2nd panel:  "Are-U-4-Stiffing-the-kid?"
> 
> ("Kid" may have been "child", but the meaning is the same.)
> 
> I don't mind an artist from putting his/her views in works of art, but
> I (naively) wonder why there are no uproars or newspapers putting a
> (evidently) conservative strip on the editorial page.  The creator of
> "B.C." (whose name I forget right now) does not always put politics
> into his strip, but neither does Garry Trudeau, the favorite whipping
> boy of non-liberals.
> 
> Does being a conservative give one some type on "immunity" from being
> attacked by newspapers and their readers?  It makes one wonder about
> the reality of the "liberal media".
> -- 
> 'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
>                          Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
>                          Space Telescope Science Institute
>                          Baltimore, MD   21218
-- 

	You know, another thing to remember is that Hart (creator, writer of
B.C.) is _obviously_ a Christian judging from his past strips including both
his Good Friday strip this past year (Wiley concluding that this day would be
both the best and worst day mankind ever had) and his Christmas strip
(concerning a child who would be born to save us all). I find it particularly
enlightening to find someone who is read as widely as Hart is who is not afraid
to stand up and say what he feels (or in this case, to sit down and draw it).
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From: br105@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey A. Del Col)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Winso McCay collections?
Date: 12 Sep 1992 21:54:59 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: br105@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey A. Del Col)
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This is probably an old question, but are there any collections of
Windsor McCay's strips available?  Little Nemo is what I'm looking
for in particular, but many of his other strips have a surreal quality
too.

J. Del Col  

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From: ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern)
Subject: Re: 9-9-92 "B.C."
Organization: NCAR/UCAR
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:32:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.194308.26372@stsci.edu>, wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan) writes:
> 
> I am surprised to see no comment on the 9-9-92 "B.C." strip.  It had
> two panels, and was a "Wiley's Dictionary" entry.
> 
> 1st panel:  "R-U-4-86"
> 2nd panel:  "Are-U-4-Stiffing-the-kid?"
> 
> ("Kid" may have been "child", but the meaning is the same.)
> 
> I don't mind an artist from putting his/her views in works of art, but
> I (naively) wonder why there are no uproars or newspapers putting a
> (evidently) conservative strip on the editorial page.  The creator of
> "B.C." (whose name I forget right now) does not always put politics
> into his strip, but neither does Garry Trudeau, the favorite whipping
> boy of non-liberals.

Actually, there have been a few such letters to the editor here in
Boulder (admittedly a fairly liberal town) triggered by the earlier
B.C. strip (the author, btw, is Johnny Hart) where one of the characters
is writing a poem about how gee, it doesn't say "separation of church
and state" anywhere in the Constitution.  I'm sure that the strip
you mention will fuel the fire some more.  I agree that if Hart wishes
to use his strip as a forum for his religious/conservative opinions,
the strip belongs on the editorial page.

> Does being a conservative give one some type on "immunity" from being
> attacked by newspapers and their readers?  It makes one wonder about
> the reality of the "liberal media".

I think a lot depends on the location of the paper.  What flies in
Orange County is very different from what flies in Berkeley.

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From: tsdavies@rodan.syr.EDU (Real life?  Ha!)
Subject: In Defense of _Sally Forth_ (Was Re: DOONESBURY's back)
In-reply-to: schnitzi@cs.ucf.edu's message of Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:45:26 GMT
Organization: Sam Hill Cabal, DS
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 02:41:23 EDT

Mark>	= Mark Schnitzius <schnitzi@cs.ucf.edu>

[Quoted bit about _Doonesbury_'s return.]

Mark> About time, too.  During the hiatus my paper replaced it with
Mark> Sally Forth, a particularly lame and poorly drawn comic strip.

Our local paper gets both _Sally Forth_ and _Doonesbury_ (alas,
_Doonesbury_ appears on the editorial page of the morning paper, and
we get the evening paper, so I rarely see it -- thank goddess for
collections).  

When _Sally Forth_ first appeared, I found it to be both funny and
well-drawn.  But a year or so ago, Greg Howard decided to pick up a
co-creator to actually draw the strip based on his scripts, claiming
that "Mac's" artistic skills were much better than his own.  A lot of
people disagreed, and complained, and they made some changes.  The
strip is closer to what it was like, but with slightly more detailed
artwork.

I still find the strip funny, and can usually appreciate the issues
involved.

--
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proceeds to the Cath'lic Church, or the Mormons or somethin'.  One cult's the
	same as another." -- Lula Pace Ripley, in "Consuelo's Kiss".
From: v22964qs@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Mike Cluff)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: 9-9-92 "B.C."
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:20:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep15.112443.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu>, 11srust@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Scott A. Rust) writes...
>In article <JYM.92Sep15005952@remarque.berkeley.edu>, jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer) writes:

>> =+= I'm thinking mostly about his anti-ACLU strips.  The ACLU
>> works to enforce the Constitutional-prescribed separation
>> between church and state.  Hart has, on several occasions,
>> misrepresented this as an effort to impose a separation of
>> church and everyday life.

>	Even the most ardent (sp?) of ACLU supporters has to admit that the
>ACLU on many occasions takes on ridiculous crusades all in the name of the
>constitution and freedom for all, when really it is   1) trying to all the
>press it can about anything   2) undermining society and its ever declining
>morals, etc, etc.

Oh?  Name one crusade.  Name one "declining moral" that the ACLU is 
undermining.  (By the way, I didn't understand point 1.  Was there a typo?)

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From: sherman@oak.math.ucla.edu (The Ahkond of Swat)
Subject: Re: Winso McCay collections?
Organization: The Island of Misfit Toys
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 00:30:27 GMT

In article <18tovjINNhqi@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> br105@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey A. Del Col) writes:
>
>This is probably an old question, but are there any collections of
>Windsor McCay's strips available?  Little Nemo is what I'm looking
>for in particular, but many of his other strips have a surreal quality
>too.

That's "Winsor." 

How about "The Complete Little Nemo in Slumberland," published by 
Fantagraphics Books?  There are five volumes, hardcover, full size.
$35.00 each.  You can order them by mail.  The address is 

Fantagraphics Books
7563 Lake City Way NE
Seattle, WA 98115

Postage is $3 for orders of 1 - 4 items, $6 for more.  Or you can call
them at 1-800-657-1100.  These books are *gorgeous*.

Another book to get is Dover's reprint volume of "Dreams of the Rarebit
Fiend."
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From: helen@pulua.hcc.hawaii.edu (Helen Rapozo)
Subject: Re: AT LAST!!!
Organization: Honolulu Community College
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 07:57:43 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.182436.29597@cc.umontreal.ca> duperval@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Duperval Laurent) writes:
>In article <1854ujINNckl@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bn823@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter Mullaney) writes:
>>
>>It's taken a long time but I finally saw a 'Far Side' that was REALLY
>>funny -  Madonna putting a hole in a lifeboat.  I finally laughed at a
>>'Far Side' strip.
>>
>
>I must agree.  This particular panel was one of the funniest Larson has ever
>come up with.  Thinking about it even now, I can't help but laugh.
************
I loved that one too!!!

Stupid as it may seen but by any chance has Madonna responded to this
panel?  I would be kind of interesing as to her reaction to this.


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From: res@colnet.cmhnet.org (Rob Stampfli)
Subject: Re: For Better for Worse on TV
Organization: Little to None
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 14:09:25 GMT

>A couple of weeks ago during their free preview weekend, the Disney
>Channel broadcast "For Better Or For Worse:  The Last Camping Trip."
>As is usual when an animated series is made, I thought they got the
>voices all wrong.  (Of course, they could have used Lynn Johnston's
>family and I would have still thought they got the voices totally
>wrong.)  The animation keeps to the style of the strip very well.

I saw this, too.  Actually, I thought the characters in the animated
version had a "cartoon" (not real life) quality that is certainly
not representative of the strip.  (But then, I didn't like the
Peanuts animations as much, either.)  One particularly annoying thing
I found with the _For Better or Worse_ animation was that Lynn continued
to draw the characters mouths at times as inverted triangles.  While
this looks OK in the strip, where the mouths don't move, I found with
animation it looked, well, bizarre.
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From: helen@pulua.hcc.hawaii.edu (Helen Rapozo)
Subject: Re: AT LAST!!!
Organization: Honolulu Community College
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:04:18 GMT

In article <Bu9qHz.2x1@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ziauddin@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Tasneem Ziauddin) writes:
>helen@pulua.hcc.hawaii.edu (Helen Rapozo) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Sep7.182436.29597@cc.umontreal.ca> duperval@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Duperval Laurent) writes:
>>>In article <1854ujINNckl@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bn823@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter Mullaney) writes:
>>>>
>>>>It's taken a long time but I finally saw a 'Far Side' that was REALLY
>>>>funny -  Madonna putting a hole in a lifeboat.  I finally laughed at a
>>>>'Far Side' strip.
>>>>
>
>I missed this one--what was the punchline?
>
>Thanks in advance.
*************
While I did save the panel I don't have it with me now.  But basically
it's about Madonna falling down on her face on a rubber liferaft with
other people on board and what she was wearing caused the liferaft to
have a hole on the bottom.


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