HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan)
Subject: Re: NASA image viewer
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:10:04 GMT

In article <999@esosun.UUCP> zeke@esosun.UUCP (James Dehnert) writes:
> 
>   On pioneer.unm.edu there are a number of NASA images from the voyager
> space crafts.  These images are in a compressed raw format that dosen't
> seem to be readable by any of the software on my system.  Does anyone
> know of a program that can uncompress and display these images?
>   There is source code on the system to do this, but the C code seems to
> be writen for PC's, and I am not what one would call a "really good"
> programer.  I'll take a crack at porting the code if nothing exists, but
> I don't know if I'll ever have the time, and my skill level may not be
> up to par.
> 
>   So, is there some existing software to view these images?
> 
>   Zeke

I'm not into Voyager data, but if they're like the shuttle photos, then  
they are in band-sequential format with a 512 byte header, with
512 x 512 bytes of red, 512 x 512 bytes of green, and 512 x 512 bytes
of blue.  Use HexEditor (from Sonata) to examine the first 512 bytes.   
That should tell you the number of pixels-per-line (512) and the number of  
lines-per-band (512) and the number of bands (3).  If it makes sense, then  
you can use the unix utility "dd" to strip out the individual bands into  
three files (do a "man dd"), and then use my NeXT utility "RGBtoTIFF" (at  
cs.orst.edu) to put them into a compressed TIFF file.  Then use Icon, or  
your favorite TIFF reader.  

You might try running this little script on your file (see the Help screen  
of RGBtoTIFF):
dd if=$1.dat of=$1.r skip=1 count=$2 bs=$2
dd if=$1.dat of=$1.g skip=$2+1 count=$2 bs=$2
dd if=$1.dat of=$1.b skip=2*$2+1 count=$2 bs=$2

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From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Subject: Re: Prices on c.s.n.announce
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 17:29:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.230103.2854@ifi.unizh.ch> lytras@avalon.physik.unizh.ch  
(Lytras Apostolos) writes:
> 
>     The "comp.newprod" newsgroup is NOT an exception to this rule:
>     product announcements are screened by a moderator in an attempt to
>     keep the hype-to-information ratio in check.
> 
You consider price to be 'hype', rather than 'information', I take it.

> Just my 0.02 sFr.
> 
> - Apostolos
> 
> -- 
> 	 lytras@ifi.unizh.ch   		|   Apostolos Lytras
> 	 lytras@avalon.physik.unizh.ch	|   Informatik Club der Uni
> 	 lytras@amiga.physik.unizh.ch  	|   Zuerich, SysAdmin

Yes, keep the hype down.  But the 4-5 ascii chars that involve the price, and  
are usually replaced in place with 'x's, will save the net many more bytes of  
traffic.

Jim
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From: tagreen@lothario.cica.indiana.edu (Todd A Green)
Subject: Re: Placing NeXTstation Slab on its Side
Organization: CICA - Center for Innovative Computer Applications
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 14:58:14 GMT

In article <28AUG199219370544@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov> silbar@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) writes:

>I posted a similar query about four months ago when our secretary got the  
>SECOND NeXT in our group.  The responses were, I judged, mixed, but enough
>people said things about the drive bearings going south that I/we came to
>a better physical arrangement in which the slab could stay flat.

I highly doubt your bearings will go bad by turning a drive on its
side.  We have quite a few machines that I administer that can only
have drives mounted on their sides.  We've not had a single incident
of bearings going bad (~15GB total disk space).  Some of these
machines include DEC VAXen, SGI Crimson, Sun SPARCServer, etc. etc.

I've always heard though, that the disk should be formatted in the
orientation that it will resting. (Though, this could just be
folklore). 

Also I'd be more worried about air flow though the slab if you turned
it on it side.  Anyone know if the slab will still be properly cooled?

Todd
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Mail sounds?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 17:37:32 GMT

jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:

>William E. Grosso writes
>> How is this significantly different from using a .forward file 
>> to play a sound when mail arrives ?

>Probably not different at all from a functional perspective.  Either way,  
>a sound is played when new mail arrives.  However, with Mail.app doing the  
>work, you don't need a ~/.forward file at all.  Beginners would appreciate  
>this (I suspect just an open panel away from making it work).

Another difference is that a built-in option would most likely work
in a network situation much better than the .forward file, which
really is kludgey to make work wherever you happen to be logged in.
(by 'network situation', I'm talking about a mail spool shared in a
heterogenous network)
-- 
David Lemson                                                 (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant  / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
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From: rob@hobbes.cuc.ab.CA (Rob Parkhill)
Subject: (none)
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:15:50 GMT

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Viewing .cdf files
Summary: 

Expires: 

Followup-To: 

Distribution: world
Organization: Debug Computer Services, Calgary, Alberta
Keywords: Corell Draw, tiff, eps
	
I recently got a CD-ROM called Coral Artshow '90 from work, and it has a bunch of 

DOS-format files with a .cdf  extension (Corel Draw Format?)  Is there a viewer or
even a converter availible to view these files with (preferably free)
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks...
---
Rob Parkhill
rob@hobbes.cuc.ab.ca
(NeXTmail preferred!)

		
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From: incubus@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki)
Subject: Re: Stripping apps (was Re: Missile Command and Other Submissions)
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:14:29 GMT

In article <17ck9hINNhtc@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) writes:
>
>
>I don't fully understand all the "strip" options, but running "strip" with no
>options will break apps that dynamically load modules (like BackSpace, for
>example), so don't strip all executables blindly.

	You're right.  I only use the included modules, so didn't notice
anything not being loaded in Backspace.
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From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Subject: Re: Hmmm... LOTS of NeXTs for sale in misc.forsale{.computers}
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 15:34:55 GMT

 In article <1992Aug27.175511.13018@socrates.umd.edu> ice@socrates.umd.edu  
(Fredrik Nyman) writes:
 >>I've been seeing *lots* of NeXTs for sale in the misc.forsale
 >>newsgroups the last couple of months.  Has anyone else noticed this?
 >>
 >>I wonder why so many NeXTs are being offered for sale... 
 >>Lack of software?  The recession?  The NRW is about to be released?
 >>
 >>Yours for random speculation

I see even more PeeCees being offered for sale there.

I wonder why?
Lack of software?  The recession?  NT is about to be released?

:-) :-)

Jim
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: How do I print to a PostScript file?
Keywords: PostScript redirect output
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 18:34:03 GMT


In article <lux.715618403@sol.UVic.CA> lux@sol.UVic.CA
(Michael O'Henly) writes:

>	I have a new NeXTstation but no printer (yet). Much of the
>documentation I need for this system is available online. I'd like to
>"print" it to a PostScript file that I can download to another machine
>that is connected to a laser.

>	I've looked through the user guide and poked around in
>PrintMgr but I'm not seeing anything that indicates to me how to do
>it.

In the application you're printing from, bring up the print
panel (alt-p is one way to do it).  Instead of <return> or
clicking Print, click on Save.  This opens a file browser
that lets you choose a directory and specify a filename for
the output file.  If you don't give the filename a suffix,
.ps will be added.  That's the file you'll send to another
machine to print on its PostScript printer.  I did that
hundreds of times before I got a printer.

-- 
Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin
Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson
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From: jake@skatter.usask.ca
Subject: Two easy questions. 
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 03:34:01 GMT

I have two questions.

First, I missed the thread (or most of it) about the new keyboards. Could
someone mail me a summary of features, availability, etc.?

Second, I use a small program called background to set the background gray
on my (mono) NeXT to black, because I like it that way. However, the 
right (menu) mouse button does not produce the desired effect when the mouse
is over the black background, although it works fine when the cursor is 
above a window, and on the default gray background.
Would anyone know why this occurs?

Thank you very much, and have a good day.

jake@skatter.usask.ca
From: cortesi@informix.com (David Cortesi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: TIFF compression (was Re: A NEW tar&compress FRONTEND...)
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:36:34 GMT
Reply-To: cortesi@informix.com
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Aug24.160817.2595@ms.uky.edu> soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John  
Soward) writes re optional tiff compression:
> 	In real-world usage, packbits seems to perform poorly, but lzw does  
> okay--but not really much better than using compress (also lempel-ziv) on the  
> tiff file (but then you have to actually issue uncompress to open it ;-)

The big difference is that an lzw-compressed tiff file is still
(supposed to be) usable as a tiff, while the foo.tiff.Z output by
compress is not.  For example. if you lzw-compress a tiff image
using tiffutil, you can still import the compressed tiff into
FrameMaker and it will display correctly.  (This can have a MAJOR
effect on Frame document size!)
From: yikes@netcom.com (Jenny Doll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Hmmm... LOTS of NeXTs for sale in misc.forsale{.computers}
Date: 28 Aug 92 05:53:20 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

[stuff about NeXT machines for sale]

Also note that NeXT has/had a sort of internal blowout of color stations.
So all of those new color stations in box in csnm are coming from
campus consultants &/or friends of the firm.

Michael Brill
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: NeXT's and Quickmail
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 03:22:47 GMT

jim@ljkiraly.lerc.nasa.gov (L J "Jim" Kiraly) writes:

>I was asked if NeXT's can deal with Mac Quickmail.  I really don't know  
>anything at all about Quickmail and couldn't begin to answer the question- so  
>if this is a really dumb question, please forgive me.

>Can NeXT's read, write, transmit and recieve Quickmail over an ethernet IP  
>network?  Is anything special required?  And what is different in Quickmail  
>from plain ol' e-mail?

You can set up QuickMail with an SMTP Gateway so that it can send
'plain ol' Internet e-mail'.  That means putting the proper headers
on, etc.  If you do that, then, yes, QuickMail can be received by
NeXTs.  NeXTs can send mail to QuickMail clients, too, as long as it
is 'non-NeXT' mail.  (no funny enclosures, etc.)
-- 
David Lemson                                                 (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant  / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu                 UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson 
NeXTMail accepted                                   BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Fonts from MAC -> NeXT
Keywords: fonts, mac, next
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:43:38 GMT


Does anybody know where one can find info on converting MAC fonts to run on the  
NeXT ?

I would greatly appreciate any help. I promisse if successfull to place all the  
fonts I got, on the archives.

Thank's for your help

-- john m.


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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Subject: Re: Prices on c.s.n.announce
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 04:43:15 GMT

eronald@CNAM.CNAM.FR (Edmund Ronald) writes:
> After seeing yet another $XXX.XX on c.s.n.announce the other night,
> rather than yell or reboot my cube, I posted a call for people willing
> to vote to send me mail so that I can make a credible call for a vote
> on this single issue: Leaving prices in, instead of emasculating all
> those sexy product announcments :-)

Hmm.  Should we be debating this in csn.advocacy?

In any case, I would kinda like to see the prices included too.

I do have some reservations though.  I don't want to see the newsgroups  
flooded with pricing wars, and I don't want to see the newsgroups flooded  
with product information.  Assuming the prices show up only in moderated  
posts (to csn.announce), maybe there isn't much danger of the above  
happening.  I don't feel comfortable about it, however.

I know if *I* was selling something, there would be a strong temptation for  
me to figure out any way possible to keep my product in the "public eye"  
(usenet) for as much as possible.  I don't want usenet to become the  
electronic equivalent of my own US mailbox, where I get much more junk mail  
than real information.

--
Garance Alistair Drosehn     =     gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer            (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute;           Troy NY    USA
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From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Subject: Re: prices on c.s.n.announce -I want a vote!
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 16:11:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.172015.14167@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>  
ede978e@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Robert D. Nicholson) writes:
> I think the pricing server idea is a good one, although it still lets them
> get the message accross but its better than blatant pricing information  
spread
> across the net.
> 

<flame on>
"blatant pricing information spread[ing] across the net"!  Sounds like prices  
are some disease.  They are INFORMATION!  Get it?  

Do you think CSN* is some sort of 'cold fusion' discussion group?  No, it's a  
GREAT BIG COMMERCIAL!  It is for the support of commercial products of NeXT.   
Most folks plan to *gasp* make money either using these machines, helping  
other's use them, or in just plain honing thier marketable skills.

This anti-price-only mentality plain baffles me.  I could understand (but not  
support) an anti-commercial postings mindset, but not this cock-eyed mess  
where, say, a Jack Reynold's style post (and I like your posts, Jack, don't  
take offence here) magically becomes NOT a commerical if the $599.95 is changed  
to $xxx.xx.  What powerful magic!  Now, suddenly, I see the posting as purely  
informational, where before I say only a blatent, offensive, commercial.

Bullshit.

<flame off>

There, now I feel better.  Offended folks please respond by e-mail

Jim De Arras
jmd@cube.handheld.com (NeXTMAIL, with prices, welcome)
From: rpomeroy@aunext3.cam.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Diagram Palette for OMT
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:49:46 GMT
Reply-To: rpomeroy@aunext3.cam.amd.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas

In article <1992Sep1.061149.245@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>  
ede978e@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Robert D. Nicholson) writes:
>>
>>Since we live in an object-oriented world albeit a non-standand (thankgod)
>>one.  Does anybody have a Diagram palette for Rumboughs OMT or has anybody
>>ever done any CRC cards using a NeXT Product before?

I too would like something like this but for Booch's notation.  If I can ever  
get away from all this SmallTalk/ObjectWorks stuff I might try using John  
Glover's hot new diagramming palette for IB to build something.  OOD tools are  
sorely lacking here (and everywhere for that matter).

--
Ronald Pomeroy
Advanced Micro Devices
CAM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext3.amd.com
From: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy))
Subject: Re: UNIX -> DOS conversion; ToolsInspector
In-reply-to: schmidmeier@evax12.eng.fsu.edu's message of 25 Aug 92 19:40:13 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Department of Physics, UC Irvine, CA 92717-4575, USA
Date: 28 Aug 92 05:36:25 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.144013.1@evax12.eng.fsu.edu> schmidmeier@evax12.eng.fsu.edu writes:
??   now that I've learned frome some post a few days ago how to
??   search files and replace certain strings using
??         cat oldfile | sed s/oldstring/newstring/g > newfile
??   I'm wondering whether I can convert a UNIX-file to a
??   DOS-file that way, by replacing all the LineFeeds with
??   CarriageReturn and LineFeed (\015 and \012 I think).
??   Using \012 as a string did not work, so what will I have to do ?
??
It is even simpler to do this in emacs with a query-replace C-Q C-J
(quote line-feed), with C-Q C-M C-Q C-J (carriage-return linefeed). 
(I usually do the reverse when transfering TeX files from my laptop to
the NeXT). Then hit Esc-! to do it globally. You can then save our
file in all-caps so DOS will be happy :-) .
--
Hardy 
-----
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From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Hmmm... LOTS of NeXTs for sale in misc.forsale{.computers}
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:57:46 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.175511.13018@socrates.umd.edu> ice@socrates.umd.edu (Fredrik Nyman) writes:
>>I've been seeing *lots* of NeXTs for sale in the misc.forsale
>>newsgroups the last couple of months.  Has anyone else noticed this?
>>
>>I wonder why so many NeXTs are being offered for sale... 
>>Lack of software?  The recession?  The NRW is about to be released?
>>
>>Yours for random speculation

As one of those selling, I'll tell you my reason - I want color.  I'm
selling my NeXTStation mono to buy a NeXTStation color.  Simple as that.


-- 

-->  Michael B. Johnson
-->  MIT Media Lab      --  Computer Graphics & Animation Group
-->  (617) 253-0663     --  wave@media-lab.media.mit.edu
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From: pirla@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Subject: Inherited a 486/33...
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 14:36:11 GMT

I just inherited a 486/33. Have already got a NSTurbo. Needless to say, the 486
is big, ugly, and running the ugliest OS in the world (hint - produced by Microsoft).
I loathe the monster.
I can get a Turbo machine for @$3700. What I'd like to know is, since I haven't been 
following the news conc. NS 486, how much would it cost me to set up the mastodon as
roughly equivalent to my NSTurbo? Or should I just sell the damned thing? It's got a 17" SVGA monitor, 
Orchid graphics card, 8 megs memory, 125 M hd, etc. 
Would anyone care to offer advice about NS 486? I can't run DOS or Windows - they turn my 
stomach.

Thanks 

Robert de Lucca
Johns Hopkins Univ.
email rdelucca@rosemary.uucp.jhu.edu  NeXTMail encouraged!


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From: waltrip@capd.jhuapl.edu
Subject: Re: Which DAT Format to Adopt
Organization: CAPVAX, JHU/APL
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:57:18 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.143605.20308@menudo.uh.edu>, sears@tree.egr.uh.edu 
(Paul S. Sears) writes:
	[...stuff deleted...]
> We use an Archive Python for our NeXT cluster (and to remotely backup Suns,  
> HPs, DECs, SGIs, etc) and it has been a dream to use.  My only gripe is about  
> the lack of good, quality backup software.  Dump and gnutar just don't always  
> cut it...
	A recent issue of NeXTWORLD covered backups...devices and software.
	The (soon-to-be) product they liked the best was (this is from 
	memory and may all be wrong) SafetyNet from Systemix? which, I think,
	is Brian Cuthie's company (he has posted here in the past).  It seemed
	to have good network backup features and good archive features as well.
	(In fact, I have a HP DAT on order and if Systemix would contact me...)

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From: wierda@ltb.ltb.bso.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Where are the Philips monitors built?
Date: 29 Aug 92 21:24:15 GMT
Reply-To: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: BSO/LT, Baarn, The Netherlands

I have seen a lot of complaints about the Philips monitors (mainly before I
went on vacation 4 weeks ago). But Philips happens to have the head office
here in The Netherlands, and I happen to know a Philips manager, who was
shocked by my story that I had seen many complaints about Philips on the net
and that people were being told to buy Sony.

He volunteered to get the message to the management. So I only need to know
what complaints there are about the Philips monitors and especially where they
are made (Taiwan? Italy?).

Mail me, and I will try to see that the info gets to the right place.

-- 
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