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From: indigo@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Adam Schneider)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Harmonics
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:29:46 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
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In <C19yqz.1ABI@austin.ibm.com> poidoug@austin.ibm.com writes:

>When you pluck a string you don't hear just one frequency you hear several.
>Touching the string directly above the 5th, 7th, and 12th frets while picking
>it removes one of those frequencies.  This makes tuning the guitar with
>harmonics easier than tuning it regularly because your ear has less sound to
>sort through.

>Is this correct?

That sounds about right.  But I thought that doing a harmonic removed all
_but_ one of the frequencies.  All the harmonics are at particular ratios
along the string (one-half, one third, one-fourth, etc.), and I think when
you put your finger there, you're causing a standing wave in the string,
with a node right where you put your finger.  I think.  (There are also
harmonics way up around the 17th and 19th frets that are the same as the 
ones at the 7th and 5th frets...)

Tuning by harmonics is a zillion times easier than tuning normally, because
you're essentially dealing with sine waves, which make "beats" when they're
slightly off from each other.  The problem, of course, is that you can't
match a harmonic on your G string to one on your B string, so I do a 7th
fret harmonic on the G string and then I pluck the 10th fret on the high E
string.

I've also heard that tuning by harmonics is _really_ easy with electric
guitars.

By the way, the standing wave/node thing is a total guess, but I think it 
makes perfect sense.  (I'm _not_ a physics major.)

Adam


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From: sjwyrick@csa3.lbl.gov (Steve Wyrick)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Mandolin
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:28:12 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
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Subject: Mandolin
From: Alden Arzaga, broohaha@camelot.bradley.edu
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:39:54 GMT
In article <broohaha.727727994@camelot> Alden Arzaga,
broohaha@camelot.bradley.edu writes:
>
>Does anyone out there know the tuning of a mandolin?
>
>4ths?  5ths?  If you know the notes and appropriate strings, I would
>be most grateful.

Tune it like a violin (5ths).  from lowest, GDAE (string pairs in
unison).  The G is the same octave as an open G on the guitar, I believe.
 BTW, studio musician par excellence Tommy Tedesco used to keep 2
mandolins for studio work, one tuned like the bottom 4 strings of the
guitar (EADG) and one like the top 4 (DGBE).   This way, although he
couldn't actually read music on the mandolin, he could play guitar
fingerings and between the 2 instruments could obtain the same range as a
"real" mandolinist.  He said it worked fine most of the time as long as
the music wasn't too complex.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: rfox@sei.cmu.edu (Richard Fox)
Subject: String Question...
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:53:11 EST

I may still be in the dark on this, or maybe not, but here is
my question...

Is there any string company which specializes in manufacturing
strings without the ball end or winding?  Steinburger or Jackson/Charvel 
maybe?  I just recently bought a Jackson Fusion Std. and was wondering
if strings were made this way, or if I have to continue cutting off those 
ends as needed?

Thanks in advance,
Rich
From: eng10392@nusunix1.nus.sg (PETER DAVEKUMAR STEPHENS)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: HELP! MY NECKS BENDING!!!
Date: 27 Jan 93 09:42:58 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore
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	I feel like a fool. I posted a note for help and I forgot to
mention that mt guitar doesn't have a truss rod.Its just plain wood all
the way through. Really sorry to have wasted the time of all the well
meaning guys out there that replied. Thanks alot guys and I hope any one
with a solution will get in touch.

	yous appologetically
	Peter





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ALL WE ARE IS DUST IN THE WIND. KANSAS
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: butterwo@cs.tulane.edu (Blake Butterworth)
Subject: Artificial harmonics
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 23:23:27 GMT
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    Speaking of harmonics, could some of the more experienced guitarists out
there give me some pointers on techniques to sounding artificial harmonics?
Do you use your index or middle finger or choke up on the pick?  Sounding the
harmonics isn't difficult, its just playing them at fast speeds that is
really difficult for me.  I've noticed alot of guitarists, especially in the
hard rock/heavy metal genres, have mastered these techniques and use them in
there music alot.  They blaze through a solo or even an up tempo riff, sound
some harmonics and keep on going.  Can someone give me some insight?  Thanks.

Blake
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: jhalvers@plains (Jon Halverson)
Subject: HELP:Twisting neck
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:17:43 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network
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  Over Christmas Vacation, I left my G&L F100 on it's stand in my dorm
room for three weeks. When I came back, it was all out of wack. I've never
had probs with it before. I have been toying with the truss rod a bit but
it dosen't seem to help. When I look down the neck it appears to have
twisted clockwise (looking from head). I LOVE this guitar, What can I do?

help,

jh
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: msaleski@tegra.com (Mark Saleski)
Subject: Re: Mike Stern
Organization: Tegra-Varityper, Inc. Billerica, MA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:55:26 GMT

In article <147775@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> k-man@diego.llnl.gov (Kevin Anderson) writes:


  >    One netter gave Stern high reccomendations.  So I
  >    picked up his 1991 release, "Odds or Evens."  I went
  >    with this one over his latest, "Standards," as I
  >    figured "Standards" could just be a bunch of jazz covers
  >    and the netter said that Stern's originals were great -
  >    OoE would contain more originals.
  > 

     "Standards" contains both originals and covers of jazz standards. The 
     arrangements are very sparse and the guitar playing is smokin'! You
     really should give this cd a chance.
-- 
 Mark Saleski                                               msaleski@tegra.com
"Unfortunately, life contains an unavoidable element of unpredictability"
        -David Lynch "The Angriest Dog in the World"

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From: US30139@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: WANTED: Red '50's (reissue) Stratocaster
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:55:50 GMT
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
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In article <1993Jan26.214652.27024@engage.pko.dec.com>
ttesta@kali.enet.dec.com (Tom Testagrossa) writes:
 
>
>
>     Wanted: a 1950's reissue Fender Stratocaster in RED. American or Japanese
>I don't really care (I just don't want to spend an arm and a leg...How would I ever play it?)
>        I've seen a zillion Black ones, and oodles of sunburst ones... but I want a RED one with a maple neck. It can Be Torino Red, Fiesta
>     Red or any other shade of red offered by Fender...
> If you have one reasonably priced I'd like to hear from you...e-mail is best.
>Thanks,
>Tom T
 
 
 
 
 
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.  The only red available in Jap 50s Strat is
candy apple.  I've got one.  Sorry Tom.  It's not for sale.
 
-----------------------------------
mikejames (US30139@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: rfox@sei.cmu.edu (Richard Fox)
Subject: Re:Tuners, cigarettes etc...
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:56:04 EST

	I figured I might just give some of my own input on the tuner thing going on here.  

	I own two electronic tuners.  One is a Justina II quartz (meter face) and the other is a Korg (LED face).  I tend to prefer the Justina over the Korg as the Justina II has mhz settings right on the face.  Meaning you can get an 
Eb (b being flat) tuning at a good 430 mhz level or any other odd tunings you may have make it easier also for accuracy.  It also has a lighted face for dark areas so there is no worries there.

 	The Korg is nice for standard 440 mhz tuning, but then again this can be done just as easily on the Justina, so why the Korg?  Well the Korg also has additional notes to tune to (at 440) for odd tunings.  Most tuners, i believe,  have an E,A,D,G,B,E switch format, whereas the Korg also give you C and F 
again, for any odd type tunings.  Also if you need a string tuned to a F#, Fb, C# or Cb it is done A LOT easier by plugging into this.

	I do not find either, (or any) electronic tuner good for the octave tuned strings on a 12-string though.  Any input on this would be welcome and appreciated.  As this goes, I usually use the tuner to tune the regular strings an the high B and E strings and proceed to tune the octave strings by ear with the 7th/8th fret area octaves.  Works rather well for me; however, an untrained ear may find this difficult.  I would appreciate any 12-srting information anyone out there may have in any aspect.

	As far as tuning acoustic guitars, (one post said he had a problem with this when you can't plug in.  Background noise etc..)  I usually lay my guitar face (soundhole) up in my lap, place the tuner on the face right by the soundhole and proceed to tune it up.  Works very good for me (open or 12th fret hamonics).  I hope that helps some.

	Now for the real ditty...  THAT CIGARETTE POST.  (What a comedian that guy is!!!)  As far as that goes, I do not smoke, so I must be lacking something in my sound?????  Darn it!  I do; however, hang my sunglasses and interwind extra guitar picks in the area above my lock nuts (among other things I have hung there, but we won't get into that, but I'm sure a lot of guitarists are aware of the fact it does make a nice *garment* hanger or just a  hanger in general.) Maybe this gives me some better soundage to

 be witnessed by the lobes protruding from the melon BAHHHHHHHHH-DEE!

DAS KING OF TEN FINGERZ AND SIX STRINGZ.
(and more humble than the title sounds?)
"KEEP KICKIN' THE AXE!!!"
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From: obry@flash.bellcore.com (Pascal Obry)
Subject: Re: GUITARE: What is it and How good is it?
Organization: /u/obry/.organization
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:27:49


Chris,

> What is it ?

It's a tool to explore the world of scale, chord, transposition, fingering ...
It was made to help beginner during the learning time. I find it helpfull for
me (I'am the designer of GUITARE), but since I had to learn the theory before
I program this I don't know how helpfull is it for a real begginner.

Anyone to answer this ?

> How good is it ?

I can't answer this question it would not be objective !
Anyone ?

but, IMHO, it's great !!

Pascal.


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From: larryh@slash.lmc.com (Larry Huntley)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Please post FAQ
Date: 27 Jan 93 07:43:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: cabezon.1993Jan27.074322.18964
Organization: Logic Modeling Corporation,  Beaverton  OR

In article <C1FAtE.2G96@austin.ibm.com> poidoug@austin.ibm.com writes:
>
>Over the past few weeks quite a few people have asked questions like "Which
>guitar should I buy?"  I would guess that questions like this are in a FAQ
>somewhere.
>
>Would someone please be kind enough to post it.
>
    An FAQ is in the works (sorry, I've forgotten who is compiling it),
    but some of the questions, like the one you used as an example, have
    no easy answers.  Perhaps we should solicit reviews listing guitars
    and pros and cons of each.  I'd be willing to start with a review
    and try and compile others if anyone wants to send one my way.

    Comments?

    - Larry Huntley
    (Intentional crossposting to r.m.m.g)

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         (larryh@lmc.com)         |  ".... and if that, that don't kill you 
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From: parmetdj@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Daniel J. Parmet)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Santana tone info wanted
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:14:26 GMT
Organization: Drexel University, Phila. Pa.

In article <1993Jan26.065702.10886@midway.uchicago.edu> 
kamartin@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>	Last night I had the pleasure of having my first exposure to the music
>of Carlos Santana (ABRAXAS).  I noticed his seemingly endless sustain, as well
>as an interesting semi-dirty tone.  What exactly does he use to get that 
>unique sound of his, as far as specfic guitars, amps, etc.?  Thanks a lot.

In those days, Carlos played a Gibson SG through, I believe, a Fender Twin
amp.  For several years now, Carlos has played Paul Reed Smith guitars through
Mesa Boogie amps.

********************************************************************************
*  Daniel J. Parmet (udparmet@mcs.drexel.edu, parmetdj@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu)   *
*                   "If it's too loud, then you're too old!"                   *
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From: rferrel@ecst.csuchico.edu (Robert Douglas Ferrell)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: BOOKS NEEDED: tube primer
Date: 24 Jan 93 17:46:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: California State University, Chico
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	For learning about old guitar amps and how to identify them, it's
hard to beat _The Tube Amp Book_ of GT fame.  However, for any sort of
technical or design issues you need a real book.  I have managed to
snarf a few old EE textbooks from the 30's thru the 60's (when those
nast bits o' silicon took over).  Some of these books were given to me
by a professor who had helped me with some tube stuff and knew I was
interested.  The others I picked up at various places which sell old
unwanted books.  Book collectors aren't interested in technical/text
books, so they're generally cheap if you can find them.  If you live in
a college town, try nearby flea markets, garage sales (especially those
of retired professors), the Salvation Army, library sales, etc.  For
specific books, I recommend:

   _Radio Engineering_, Frederick E. Terman, McGraw-Hill, various
printings from the 30's and 40's.  This is an excellent text book
with many examples and detailed analysis of tube operation.

   _Communication Engineering_, William L. Everitt, McGraw-Hill, various
printings from the 30's and 40's.  Another very good text.  Not as
much detail about tube amplification or operation, but enough if you're
in a pinch (i.e. can't find anything else).

   _Analysis and Design of Electronic Circuits_, Paul M. Chirlian,
McGraw-Hill, 1965.  A later book which includes transistor theory.
There are many good examples and analysis sections.  If you've had
courses on transistor operation, this book might be the best for you.
It makes it easy to compare and contrast tube and transistor curves
and equivalent circuits (for modelling in Spice, perhaps?  Anybody
got a model file for a 12AX7...).

Well, good luck finding something.  I forgot to mention that if your
local college library refuses to sell you the book you want, try checking
it out :-)

-Doug
From: costello@physchem.ox.ac.uk (Costello)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: More artificial harmonics
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:49:46 GMT
Organization: Physical Chemistry Laboratory, South Parks Road, Oxford OX1 3QZ
Originator: costello@joule.pcl


There appears to be a running debate about preferred technique of generating
artificial harmonics.  The theoretical explanation that allows artificial
harmonics to be made is based upon muting the string lightly half-way along its
length, whilst striking the string (in some manner or other).  If the part of
your right hand that mutes the string (thereby creating a 'node' - or point along
the string which doesn't vibrate) happens to be the fleshy part of your thumb, or
your right index fingertip or whatever - so be it.  The theory remains the same.

Perhaps what might be of more interest is a technique I was shown by a class
violinist friend of mine.  I haven't incorporated it into my own lead repertoire
but I feel some of you may find it intriguing.

Fret some note high-ish up on one of the top strings with your left-hand index
finger.  With your little finger, stretch up the neck 5 frets, and lightly rest
your fingertip on the string above the fret in question -  just as if you were
playing a natural harmonic (which is, in fact, exactly what you are doing).  When
you strike the string using normal right hand technique, you will generate the
harmonic two octaves (I think) above the note you are currently fretting with
your index finger.

As I recall, doing this sort of thing whilst working your way up the top E using
some natural minor scale or somesuch is generally pretty interesting.  As no
surprise, then, is the fact that this technique is physically impossible lower
down the neck, simply due to hand span.  Unless you're Robert Fripp or some other
mutant.

Cheers,

Rory Costello
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: What should I buy?
From: david.benfell@stargate.actrix.gen.nz (David Benfell) 
Date: 26 Jan 93 02:25:00 GMT
Reply-To: david.benfell@stargate.actrix.gen.nz (David Benfell) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Stargate BBS - Wellington, NZ - +64 4 566-2157

JH.        Yezz!!  I'm going to buy a new guitar (western-type), and I want som
  .advise from you....  I have been looking at Ibanez AE-600BK, but I think
  .it's too expensive for me  :-(  I would rather go for an AE-300, but then I
  .thought I should ask you first...  I'm quite sure there are other types
  .(not Ibanez) of guitars which are as good as the Ibanez.....
  .Any advise???

Well, I'm located in New Zealand, I can't quite work out where you're
from.  I had an Ibanez guitar for 8 years and although it was a good
guitar, I wasn't that happy with the action, sound etc.

I've recently sold that and purchased a Fender USA Stratocaster which
I think are one of the best guitars around.  It has excellent action
and has a wonderful "strat" sound.  This would be a good investment
move also as over here in New Zealand, Strats increase in value
whereas my Ibanez didn't.

Cheers

               David
                                                                                                             
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Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Monday, 25 Jan 1993 15:48:41 PST
From: <WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: WANTED: Red '65 Telecaster

I am posting this for a friend so don't think I'm tring to corner the market on
weird Fenders.

     Wanted: a 1965 Fender Telecaster in red.  It can Be Torino Red, Fiesta
     Red or any other shade offered by Fender in 1965.  To paraphrase Henry
     Ford, "It can be any color as long as it's red."
                               Eric

Send particulars to this address and I'll see he gets them.  He works in a musu
music store, so he knows what they're worth.  Don't be afraid to ask what you
feel tit should bring.  You guys can then work it out.  Okay?  Okay.

Brian
From: etlcrcy@bugs.ericsson.se (Chris Cleverley)
Subject: Re: Tube sound fuzz
Keywords: guitar fx
Organization: Ericsson Cellular Division
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:05:59 GMT

In article <harmon.727743330@skid.ps.uci.edu> harmon@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (matt harmon) writes:
>BTW, I built the Tube Sound Fuzz which appears in Electronic Prijects for
>Musicians by Craig Anderton.  I really like the sound hovever I am
>contemplating an improved design.  First off, it clips on the negative swing
>earlier/harder than the positive swing.  Asymmetrical distortion can be
>non-musical but in this case it is not.  Secondly, in its printed config, it
>has too much bass response (dubbed "flub" by my amp building friend Jim
>Kelley).  This gives it a neat 60's Norman Greenbaum kind of tone but really
>sucks for low Hendrix/VanHalen stuff.  Finally, the intensity control has a
>dramatic affect on the output level.  This is not baffling, simply
>inconvenient.  Especially if you do as I did and wire the lead/rhythm switch as
>a foot switch to punch in for that screaming solo.  If you were to do this, you
>increase from 10 to about 200 in gain and run the risk of blowing input stages
>on your amp.   All three of these things are soluble and I might get around to
>prototyping an improved circuit.  If anyone is interested in the results, let
>me know as it will affect my motivation in making the improvements.

  I have built this too and am very interested in the modifications.  I have
found this to be a very good unit and will use it in preference to my BOSS
pedal anyday due to its warm, rich sound.  I have found no problem with the
bass response ( I have two humbucker pick-ups ), but when switching from
rhythm to lead the extra-gain is a real problem.  I never actually use the
lead position due to this and find I can get a wide variety of Hendrix style
sounds ( eg Purple Haze tube sound ) as near correct as possible just using
the rhythm position.  Any help appreciated.


--
Chris Cleverley                     \\\\ 
eltcrcy@deep-thought.ericsson.se     . . 
                                      S  
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From: qb7g6@fel.tno.nl (Maarten Landzaat)
Subject: Re: REQ: Pink Floyd "The wall"
Keywords: music
Organization: TNO Physics and Electronics Laboratory
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:54:27 GMT


In <1993Jan20.144655.18960@ghost.dsi.unimi.it> corda@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (roberto corda) writes:

> Anybody have some "the wall" tablature?

Yes: Dm7
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: oz@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu (Robert E Osbourn)
Subject: FOR SALE: Fender Tele
Summary: Fender Telecaster for sale in good shape
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:43:13 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Keywords: Fender Tele FOR SALE

Fender Telecaster Delux for sale  

in good shape. $500.00 


			Robert Osbourn
			oz@skywalker.ecn.uoknor.edu
			(405) 325-5370 (W)
			(405) 348-5899 (H)
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