From: uphrrmk@Msu.oscs.montana.edu (Me)
Subject: Re: Spirit in the house, and parents won't listen...
Reply-To: uphrrmk@Msu.oscs.montana.edu (Me)
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:00:41 GMT

In article <JOSHUA.92Sep9102342@bailey.cpac.washington.edu>, joshua@cpac.washington.edu (Joshua Geller) writes:
>
>In article <las6ltINN812@aludra.usc.edu> eburke@aludra.usc.edu (Kethry) 
>writes:
>
>>   Hi there, it's me again....
>
>charmed, I'm sure.
>
>>   Um, I have a question for anyone that could help me...There is a spirit
>>   in my house that is driving me absolutely buggy.  
>
>not a very long drive, is it?
>
>>                                                     (I'm empathic and sen-
>>   sitive to spirits so that gives me a double whammy :-).) Anyway, I've
>>   tried burning yellow candles and that works quite well in the room that
>>   the candles are in, but the only room I was allowed to burn in was my
>>   room, which meant that I was very uncomfortable in the rest of the 
>>   house...
>
>have you considered the possibility that it's all in your mind?
>
>>   Well, one day my parents decided to say that I was not allowed to burn
>>   ANYTHING in the house, so there went my protections.  They told my sister
>>   that they don't like the fact that I don't believe in Catholicism like
>>   they do.  So, I tried building myself a shield of yellow light (like 
>>   the light sheilds from the Sheild thread) and tried to expand it to the 
>>   con  tours of my room.  I forgot to leave an opening for the air duct, so 
>>   until I figured that out, my room was the stuffiest in the house until
>>   I put a hole in for the air duct.  That created another problem...the
>>   hole leaves an opening into my room for anything that wants to get in.
>>   The sheild worked perfectly until the hole was put in.  
>
>this is an interesting worldview you have here. lots of things are 'out to 
>get you' and 'trying to get in' eh?  why don't you try using a worldview in
>which these kind of things don't exist? sure, that won't have the advantage
>of pissing off your parents, or making you seem really special and sensitive
>and magickal, on the other hand, you may develop a capacity for rational
>thought somewhere in there.
>
>>   My question is what can I do now?  The spirit hasn't manifested any nasty
>>   qualities, he's mainly a trickster, but I still have a very nasty feeling
>>   that anyone else who is sensitive can feel.  The only examples of his
>>   work in the mundane world are things that are basically pranks, but of
>>   the sort that my parents are blaming the three kids in the house (my 
>>   sisters and I).  
>
>you might tell us what this 'spirit' is doing. 
>
>josh
DEAR JOSH..... Quite frankly, I think you're being an ass.  YOU might not see
anything, because your mind won't let you see anything.  Just because you
haven't been pelted with books doesn't mean that ghosts, spirits, etc. are all
in the mind of other people.(though with a few people, it may well be.)
Quite often, if you don't believe in something, you won't see it, and therefore 
be insensitive to those of us who do see critters and have to deal with them.
If you don't work with/ believe in magick, then why in all the names of the
Gods, are you bothering to be a sarcastic git on this newsnet?  Get on the
philosophy net, and stop wasting your energy being cruel to Magickers with
problems...

   As for the "spirit" problem... I find that Sweet Basil, sprinkled around the 
perimeter of any room and put on the windowsills, is an effective way to get
rid of unwanted beasties without burning candles or annoying parents.  Just
crush it in your hands,(all herbshops carry basil, root around in your mom's 
spice rack) and scatter it in unobtrusive places, and the outside of the house.
(It's an old Celtic/gypsy recipe.)
       
                      With Sympathy, 
                      La Mort.
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