From: osan@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (Mr. X)
Subject: Re: BIG GUNS AND LITTLE REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS...
Organization: Twilight Zone
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:39:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.175025.173@lrc.edu> blosser_cy@lrc.edu writes:
>Man is inherently wicked and prone to sudden acts of random violence against 
>his neighbor...

	I see this is going to be an impartial exposition, judging by the
	opening remarks. 

	Sir, you have begun your post with several assumptions that I believe
	you will be hard pressed to prove. First you say that people (or did 
	you mean 'man' in the literal sense?) are inherently wicked.  I
	strongly disagree.  Look for evil and you will find it even where there
	is none. 
	
	Second, your statement that people are prone to becoming violent 
	against one another, while true at times, is by no means the rule
	for the vast majority of the worlds population so far that I am able 
	to see.  Nevertheless you couch your assertion in words that strongly
	imply that this is indeed the case.

	And third. your statement regarding mans propensity for violence also
	strongly implies that all violence is necessarily "wrong".

	IF you are a rational person (which at this point is quite clearly
	questionable) you may wish to begin an argument on a somewhat firmer
	foundation, lest the rest of us come to our ends from laughing so hard.


>a puny wimp with a small dick feels macho when he has a steel
>rod that can spit fire and deal death in his hands.  

	Is this true for ALL puny wimps, or just for some of them?  This
	piece of ranting nonesense, if it were not so sad, would be
	laughable.  You obviously know very little about people and human
	nature, or you live in a place you might be well admonished to leave.

>It takes *more* guts to 
>love your neighbor than 2 pull the trigger and end his life in a splattering
>of blood and spongy grey matter. 

	I don't know how much guts it take to love one's neighbor.  I find
	*my* neighbors very lovable, but don't feel that it has taken much in
	the way of courage to do so.  Nonetheless, if my neighbor attacked me
	with serious intent to kill or maim me (for whatever reason), though
	I might indeed love him(her), I am not going to passively allow them 
	to carry out their actions against me.  That is not loving you neighbor	but rather a display of utter stupidity.  Love thy neighbor?  Sure, but
	love thyself as well.  If you wish to live as an idiot, that's  fine
	with me, but don't think for a second that I am obligated to follow
	suit.

	And all this splatter talk is just so devicive and ignorant.

>A smoking hole in a shattered skull is *no* way to solve diplomatic problems. 

	But it is sometimes a necessary and justifiable tactical response to 
	certain specific events, usually of the type where someone is about to
	destroy you and you have no other choices beyond allowing it to happen
	or counter attacking.  Appeals to the intellect require an intellect
	to appeal to.

>Most of your gun-owners have no brains and therefore are incapable of settling
>their differences with another using (of all things!) civilized discussion. 

	Funny, I own guns and yet I am very neatly disposing of *you* by
	precisely the means you claim I am not capable of.  Better go back and
	rethink this one.

	And regarding your lame attempts at hurling insults, couldn't you
	have done just a *little* better??

>They'd rather blow the opposing fucker a-
>way and end the matter right then and their. They do love to play Rambo with
>their big guns. 

	Son, you've been watching far too much TV.  Methinks therapy might
	do you some good.  And look how you refer to those that oppose!
	FUCKER!  Get help old boy before you yourself get a gun and do a
	Hennard on some innocent bystanders.

>	If only their brains were that size. Not to mention genital-
>reproductive organs. 

	By the sounds of this I'd say you have accepted the rantings of a
	drug ridden psychopath named Sigmund Freud.

>If we all discarded our guns & got rid of all our bombs
>and disposed of every stupid weapon we own we'd get along *much* better with 
>each other. Perhaps we'd even have peace, love & happiness around the world.

	Wait a minute.  First you say that we are INHERENTLY EVIL and now
	you get all touchy-feeley on us saying that to eliminate weapons
	would be to eliminate violence.  How can we do that if we are
	inherently evil and violent?  I am very sorry to say (and I mean it)
	that you express yourself like an imbecile.  You do not seem to even
	be able to maintain the internal consistency of your argument.  Sad.
>
>Besides...flowers are a *lot* nicer than guns. 
>

	Uh huh.

>So get rid of yours today.

	After you learn to think, which should happen just about as the first
	frosts hits Hell.

	-Andy V.
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