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From: storm@acca.nmsu.edu (Keith C. Estanol)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Life Angst
Summary: AUUUGGHHHHHH!
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:20:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: nmsu.1992Jul23.202023.5712
Followup-To: none
Organization: New Mexico State University

Do you remember when you were younger?
Do you remember when you used to think you'd be rich.. or famous, or
hugely successful in (name your field here) ?

Now, think to today.
(Fast Forward on the life VCR) 

Do you realize that only 2% of the people who start their own
businesses survive the first one or two years?

Also, you stand a good chance of getting screwed if you buy a
franchise.  And then there's the option of buying a business that's
already losing money.

Either way, you lose.  Either way, you'll end up breaking your back
for someone who doesn't give a shit for you, or what your problems
are.  Most people don't even use their college degrees after they
graduate.  Yes. I'm depressed. Go away.

The question is: What do I do now?

Keith C. Estanol	    	| storm@ucsd.edu
UCSD, Cognitive Science 	| storm@ucsd.bitnet
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"We don't want to be victims, on that we all agree.
 So we lock up the killer instinct, and throw away the key.."
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Angsty book
Date: 29 Jul 92 08:44:45 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

Anybody read "The Journal of a Disappointed Man" ??
W.N.P.Barbellion

An angster's guide to living with an incurable slow wasting disease

Wonderful

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Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: magnus@solaris.astro.uu.se (Magnus Selhammar)
Subject: Re: Stupid User angst
Organization: UDAC, Uppsala, Sweden
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 10:47:11 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.143621.3530@lmt.mn.org>, ciaran@county.lmt.mn.org (Ciaran Benson) writes:
|> >Who remembers the CDC Cyber 170 series with NOS?  The good old days.....
|> >Minnesota FORTRAN was such fun....  ETH/Zurich Pascal.....  Gone gone gone
|> 
|> And let's not forget the first Pascal compiler for the Hewlett-Packard series
|> I (in the old 'CX days) ...
|> 
|> Feed the damned thing your code (all 5000 lines of it), and all it can say is;
|> 
|> Program not compiled.
|> 
|> 25 errors
|> 
|> Err 2
|> Abnormal Program Termination
|> 
|> ('Course -- the damned thing wouldn't tell you WHERE the errors where,
|> or WHAT they were ...)
|> 
|> Happy, happy, happy ... Joy, joy, joy.
|> 
|> Oh, where has MPE gone ...  Ciaran.
|> 
|> 

You're not alone, my compiler sometimes tell me it has a segmentation
fault. Nothing more.

Magnus
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: "FOR CRY-BABIES ONLY...BROUGHT TO
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:42:02 GMT

dorham_r@lrc.edu writes:
: 
: 		Or maybe they could just fix you a glass of warm milk,
: 		and tenderly tuck you in' each night.
: 
: GROW UP...FACE YOUR PROBLEMS...AND STOP ACTING LIKE A DEMOCRATE!
                                                           /\
                             Is this some kind of American packaging, perhaps
something to carry the banners in on the way to the latest civil insurrection?
                             
: 
: p.s.   Have a nice day...

Well I'll try, but I keep getting these headaches.....


Nick              DoD 1069

Just when you think you're getting the hang of it all, you grow old, and die.

42 ?

"Just another brick......"
From: v026ltr5@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Monty)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Damned if you do, damned if you don't...
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:47:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <2106@ontek.com>, mikey@ontek.com (euphausia superba) writes...
[laura's post deleted]
>(Apologies for quoting such a large chunk.)
>In alphabetical order:
>  "I" was used in the above text 62 times.
>  "me" was used 8 times.
>  "my" was used 12 times.
>  "myself" was used 2 times.
>Not that you're self-centered, but mentioning anything 84 times
>in a row must indicate some sort of obsession.  For example, if
>someone were to mention pez 84 times, you might think he or she
>was a bit unbalanced.  Just some underwater perspective from...

I hope you don't get flamed for this, because it sent me into
hysterics. And I do agree with you to an extent, but then if
she's talking about her angst, she should be expected to mention
herself a few times. 84, I don't know...

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Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: machala@delphi.hc.ti.com (Chuck Machala )
Subject: Buying a house angst.
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:13:55 GMT

Is this some of the worst possible angst or what?!
Because interest rates are so low and the market's slow, it is darned close 
to being the best time in many years to buy a house. Also, after the election
the interest rate will almost definitely go up. So you'd better hurry.
Anyway, I went Saturday to look at houses. First, one was way the hell out
in the boonies but a beautiful house at a very good price. Next houses were
all about the same (not as good of quality, more expensive) but closer to 
work and there was actually signs of civilization around (i.e. shopping 
centers, movie theaters, etc...). I called the mortgage people and I can
probably actually qualify to buy any of these houses! I was shocked.
That's when the angst set in, and boy did it hit hard.
Which do I buy. The cheaper, better house in the boonies or the one in the
close in suburbs (there's really only a 10 minute difference in drive times
but the one in the boonies (McKinney), I mean, there's almost nothing out 
there. But it is pretty, groves of trees, hills, unlike the closer in suburbs 
which used to be wheat fields, flat and barren, not a tree over 6 ft. high in 
the whole town (Plano).  The one in the boonies is just starting to be built
and will be ready in 90 days. The mortgage rate today is only good for 45
days. What then?! I haven't bought a house before and I just have my son,
who's no help. How can I make a good choice? I don't know diddly. And shit,
do I really want a house? All the extra work, I have a hard enough time 
keeping my apartment clean. But I can't keep throwing away money on rent.
And I really do love the house in the boonies (or at least the model homes
they had there since the one I could buy is nothing but an empty lot at the
moment) but the floor plan looks good, but how do I know it'll look good
when it's built, and what colors do I choose? and how good are the schools?
and if I do live in McKinney I'll way the hell away from family and friends
and noone will be able to watch my son when I go on business trips so I'll
be stuck here for four years until he can drive? And how will I ever meet
future SO's living in the suburbs or boonies with a bunch of married yuppies 
or rednecks respectively? How? There much more but my stomach is already in
a terrible knot. Maybe I'll just stay in my crummy apartment and avoid this
angst altogether.
chuck
--

"Alms for an ex-leper."

Chuck Machala - Semiconductor Process and Design Center - Texas Instruments
From: v026ltr5@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Monty)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Hey, Dave! Dave Hinz!
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:17:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul29.074228.19878@mr.med.ge.com>,
hinz@bonfire (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987) writes...
>As far as your posting my E-MAIL to you, if I had felt it needed to be posted
>I would have posted it myself, thank you very much.  Flame wars are a
>stupid waste of bandwidth, and serve little purpose, at least on this board.
>Might I reccomend you check out alt.flame if you want to stir up the muck.

Dave, I've tried suggesting this, but people rarely listen.
Good luck, though. 

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Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: boesch@cs.washington.edu (Eric Boesch)
Subject: Hugs and ziggy dolls for everyone
Organization:  Impersonators of the Fat Dead Elvis
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 10:30:32 GMT

God help me, I'm trying to affect the external, objective world in
order to make it a better place for MYSELF again.  It never works...
whenever I do anything but what comes naturally, it always seems
there's nothing to gain, merely the chance to make an irrevocable fool
of myself.

Anyway.  It'd be just slightly hypocritical of me to complain about
the existence of the flaming.  Instead, I'll say that an appalling
number of you are going about it wrong.  If the rest of you are each
as slow as I was in figuring that out, I'll have to wade through yet
more lousy-but-technically-correct ones.

I won't bother speculating about how what I think started as a joke
apparently became serious.  But I think it's very difficult to justify
a serious flame.

First, the only effective bounds that exist to flaming are the legal
ones.  I've certainly seen much more "vicious" and "Machiavellian"
flaming than I've seen here.  But even so, the only reason it affected
me was because I was stupid.  And it was still principally a joke, as
I think most of these serious flame wars once were.

Come on, now.  For someone else on the net to have a significant
influence on what other people think of *you*, that person must be a
very talented spin doctor.  But until such a genius shows up and tries
to paint you as Dr. Mengele, there's no need to bother replying to
flames and defending yourself.  In the meantime, don't open yourself
up to being pointlessly offended by assuming the existence of a
standard of "nice" flaming.  Even if your opponent *is* serious, what
harm is there in assuming that he isn't?

Stupid sermon mode off.  Snotty condescending fuckhead mode off...
off, off, off, dammit!  Fuck!  The switch is broken again.

Barf!  I'm acting like a dipshit spoiled brat nine-year-old girl: "Hi,
I may know fuck-all, but don't I speak with the voice of authority!"
Beating a dead horse.  Kill me now.
Xref: sparky alt.angst:2652 alt.romance:10252 alt.suicide.holiday:1752
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.angst,alt.romance,alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Male-Female relationships explained
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:37:03 GMT
Followup-To: alt.angst
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre
Originator: netnews@uts.mcc.ac.uk

>In article <ogorman.711477234@unix1.tcd.ie> ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie (Lucifuge) writes:
>>Male-Female relationships explained: It boils down to this...
>>
>>Male: I will give you (insert material good of your choice) in return
>>for sex.
>>
>>Female: I will give you sex for (insert material good of choice).
>>
>>And that is it.

But but but I thought it was:
M: I'll do ANYTHING for sex    F: Maybe





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From: jlewis@astro.as.arizona.edu (Jeff Lewis)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: RE: angst and biological urges
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:26:26 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <1992Jul23.161636.6533@linus.mitre.org> sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay) writes:
>
 
> Its an Alpha thing, we aren't meant to understand.
> I feel the same way. Nobody ever told me what to do and what not
> to as far as normal human social interactions go. Its just like
> "Well, here's this world full of people, you figure out how to deal
> with them". Thanks guys!
 
It looks like the Alphas are winning - 
I think I have figured out most of the ins and outs of social interactions. 
I just I refuse to play the game..or allow the game to play me. Hence 
I get stuck in a sort of self imposed purgatory. 
 
> Wow!, you mean somebody else feels this way to? I mean there is
> actually a male out there who is repulsed by that question besides
> me?
 
Repulsed sure...but I guess my biggest problem is understanding the 
movtiation behind the question itself...why is my sex life supposed
to be put on display...for comparison?  Is there a universal score 
keeper that I am unware of? Thats all I need...the angst of finding 
out I am behind on points! 
 
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Xref: sparky alt.angst:2685 alt.romance:10305 alt.suicide.holiday:1772
Newsgroups: alt.angst,alt.romance,alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Male-Female relationships explained
From: steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (jason steiner)
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:53:26 EST

zrubek@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ZRUBEK PETER F) writes:
> azathoth@lighthouse.caltech.edu (Keith Counsell) writes:
> 
> >boesch@cs.washington.edu (Eric Boesch) writes:
> >
> >In this line, a joke:
> >	A woman is nothing but a spare rib.
> >		*grin*
> 
> I suppose that since you say "*grin*" everything is ok and nothing you
> say is offensive?  Ok so why don't you show a bit of maturity and stick
> out your tongue.  Your views of women only mean that you have no understanding
> of what a women may really be, to you or to themself.  I suggest you try
> to get to know a woman and then tell us she is anything that you are not
> and for that matter that you are anything that she is not.  I don't claim to
> be an expert at anything, I do know that what you say in the above is very
> gross, unthinking, and really just a horrible thought stolen from one of the
> most tragicly misinterpreted works of fiction ever concieved, i.e. The Bible.

oh chill. i seriously doubt Mr. Boesch is under any such delusion
that women are inferior. there is -no- question that you are about as
uptight as a person can be. pray tell, how can you divine that Mr. Boesch
is a sexist pig from such little information? do you react in a similar
fashion to the woman who writes "Man was only a prototype. God realized
she could do better?"

for every Oral Roberts there's a raving agnostic who goes into fits when
an oblique, tongue in cheek reference to the Bible is made.

> To call you a sexist I am 
> John A Cairns
> cairnsj@ucsu.colorado.edu

To call you anal retentive I am
Jason L Steiner
steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu
.
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: In response to the great angst debate...
Date: 27 Jul 92 09:21:29 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre
Originator: netnews@uts.mcc.ac.uk

In article <1992Jul23.053132.11947@peponi.wcc.govt.nz> hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Anthony 'the Bard' Hobbs) writes:

>ObActualAngst: Talking about motorcycles reminds me of my friend Deanne, who 
>was killed on one 15 days ago, and I don't know who's going to be next. The
>next stationwagon might have my name on it.

But half the point of motorcycles is that you might die!
The other half?  A really good burnup is better than (most) sex.

Ob Angst: I don't have a bike anymore



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Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: In response to the great angst debate...
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 10:36:31 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand

hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:

> ObMoreAngst: This damn system doesn't have a large enough text buffer and I
> keep losing letters.

So stop using it and start actually paying something for your Usenet access.
Help support one of the Usenet boards in Wgtn and get a usable system in
return.

						- k
-- 
Craig Harding            kilroy@acme.gen.nz             ACME BBS +64 63 3551342
"Jub'f Xvob?"
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: CREDO, by Stephen Crane (you want angst, dammit--THIS is angst!)
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:20:04 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.183225.191@lrc.edu> blosser_cy@lrc.edu writes:
>I CANNOT FIND MY WAY: THERE IS NO STAR
>IN ALL THE SHROUDED HEAVENS ANYWHERE;
>AND THERE IS NOT A WHISPER IN THE AIR
>OF ANY LIVING VOICE BUT ONE SO FAR
>THAT I CAN HEAR IT ONLY AS A BAR
>OF LOST, IMPERIAL MUSIC, PLAYED WHEN FAIR
>AND ANGEL FINGERS WOVE, AND UNAWARE
>DEAD LEAVES TO GARLANDS WHERE NO ROSES ARE.
>
>NO, THERE IS NOT A GLIMMER, NOR A CALL,
>FOR ONE THAT WELCOMES, WELCOMES WHEN HE FEARS,
>THE BLACK AND AWFUL CHAOS OF THE NIGHT;
>FOR THROUGH IT ALL--ABOVE, BEYOND IT ALL--
>I KNOW THE FAR SENT MESSAGE OF THE YEARS,
>I FEEL THE COMING GLORY OF THE LIGHT.

Hey, Steven Crane....






STOP SCREAMING!  YAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!



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Brookhaven National Laboratory     "Home of the Big BNL Burger."
From: blosser_cy@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: EVERY TIME I READ THIS NEWSGROUP...
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:40:37 GMT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

Every time I browse this newsgroup I shake my head in disgust and fight back 
the waves of nausea that make my stomach churn.

What is this bullshit???

You angst-ridden pathetic dweebs! Do you actually THINK that we would listen
to your problems? Do you think that somebody out there CARES? Did you assume
somebody would actually be capable of SYMPATHY????????

Why don't you go huddle in some vacant corner of your poor wretched mind and
bemoan your fate as you feel the biting chill of nothingness creep upon your
sick and diseased soul! 

Realize that this universe is indifferent to your cares and worries and dumb
hang-ups! So WHAT if your wife left, after discovering your affair with your
next-door-neighbor's poodle!!! So what if you were layed off of your job!!!!
So what if your car broke down just as the warranty expired!!!! THE UNIVERSE
DOESN'T GIVE A DAMN, MUCH LESS THIS STUPID NEWSGROUP! 

THERE IS NO ANSWER, 
NO HOPE, 
NO RECOURSE;
WE ARE TRULY LOST.
THERE IS NO GOD. 
WE ARE THE STATE. 
ALL TRUSTS WE WILL BETRAY.

'Nuff said!

Christopher

P.S.	Have a nice day!!!
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay)
Subject: Re: Stupid User angst
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:40:28 GMT

In article <zlsiida.1023@fs1.mcc.ac.uk> zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.163159.14237@bnr.uk> datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
>
>>Using UNIX _always_ makes me feel like a Stupid User.  I am using xwindows
>
>>There must be some strange people around, if somebody actually feels at home 
>>with all this sh*t!  I know Windows and MACs aren't THAT good, but at least 
>
>>I AM a STUPID user!
>
>Who remembers the CDC Cyber 170 series with NOS?  The good old days.....
>Minnesota FORTRAN was such fun....  ETH/Zurich Pascal.....  Gone gone gone

I do!, I do!!!....I hacked CCL on an 029 for a couple years. Minnesota FORTRAN,
UCSD Pascal, typing 'rewind *' everytime you got done with a file..The Viking
touchscreen terminals...yup!...great stuff.

---Steve
-- 
Stephen Okay  sokay@mitre.org
"Welcome to the Politically Correct States of America. Please turn your mind
in to the nearest oppressed minority pressure group. It will be returned to
you once we've decided what you can think"
From: v026ltr5@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Monty)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Damned if you do, damned if you don't...
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:15:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul21.103951.28850@mr.med.ge.com>,
hinz@bonfire (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987) writes...
>: Laura went to the Dan Quayle Scule of Spelling...
>I thought it was agreed that spelling flames are a stupid waste of bandwidth.

It wasn't a flame... it was... a palindrome.

>COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  If these aren't the 4 major angst groups,
>what are?  You have the job angst, the fear angst, the SO angst, the sex
>angst, what else is there?  If you hafe sterner stuff, I don't believe that
>it has been brought out here.

I don't really disagree with you, its just that I find it hard to
stomach complaints for someone whose problems in those areas are
so trivial. My point was that she has options. For crying out
loud, how can one have angst over a relationship where the only
worry is that you might cheat on the other person???????

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From: danoc@earlybird.Eng.Sun.COM (Dan O'Connell [CONTRACTOR])
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Monogamy Angst
Date: 27 Jul 1992 22:45:18 GMT
Organization: Zippedy-doo-dah
NNTP-Posting-Host: earlybird

(John Raoul Dombart) writes:

>At this point I think it's a feeling related to the growing knowledge
>that I'm bound to live through thousands of beautiful and/or horrible
>things in my _life_, but in  the same time also to miss billions of
>billions of beautiful and/or horrible things in the _world_.

When I feel that way, a quote comes to mind:

   One cannot pickup all the beautiful shells on the beach

I don't have an attribution, but essentially it tells me
to try and make the "most of it"

Dano
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Stupid User angst
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:36:41 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre
Originator: netnews@uts.mcc.ac.uk

In article <1992Jul21.163159.14237@bnr.uk> datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:

>Using UNIX _always_ makes me feel like a Stupid User.  I am using xwindows

>There must be some strange people around, if somebody actually feels at home 
>with all this sh*t!  I know Windows and MACs aren't THAT good, but at least 

>I AM a STUPID user!

Who remembers the CDC Cyber 170 series with NOS?  The good old days.....
Minnesota FORTRAN was such fun....  ETH/Zurich Pascal.....  Gone gone gone

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|        You should never have a hobby that eats                      |
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|  Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England  (44)061-275-6033   |
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