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From: wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery)
Subject: City jazzlines
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 03:46:28 GMT

The following list give jazz information numbers in various
cities.  Those with an asterisk (*) were taken from an old
downbeat magazine and may no longer be in use.


                             CITY JAZZ LINES
__________________________________________________________________________

*Phoenix        AZ       602-254-4545
Tucson          AZ       602-623-2463
Los Angeles     CA       213-597-5483
San Francisco   CA       415-769-4818
San Francisco   CA       415-550-8180 (Improv Hotline)
San Jose        CA       408-993-3990
*Hatrford       CT       203-242-6688
*Washington     DC       202-532-8723
Miami           FL       305-382-3938
*Orlando        FL       305-788-2327


Atlanta         GA       404-653-7195 (Bur. Cultural Affairs,
                         238 Forsyth St., SW, Atlanta GA 30303
Honolulu        HA       800-948-IDIG
Chicago         IL       312-427-3300
*New Orleans    LA       504-242-2323
Boston          MA       617-787-9700
Cape Cod        MA       508-393-JASS
*Springfield    MA       413-737-9209
*Baltimore      MD       301-945-2266
*Detroit        MI       313-871-5267
Minn./St Paul   MN       612-633-0329
*Kansas City    MO       816-333-2227
*Las Vegas      NV       702-734-8556
*Buffalo        NY       716-875-3397
New York        NY       718-465-7500
Raleigh         NC       919-549-5100 x6688
*Cincinnati     OH       606-581-7100
Cleveland       OH       216-421-2266
Philadelphia    PA       215-787-5277
*Pittsburgh     PA       412-687-5463
Memphis         TN       901-276-5766
*Nashville      TN       615-242-4310
Dallas          TX       214-744-2267
Houston         TX       713-528-6740 (Sum Arts, Lanny Steele producer)
                         713-529-9387 (Jazz Herit Soc of TX, Lizette Cobb)
*Seattle        WA       206-624-5277
*Milwawkee      WI       414-964-3690

Vancouver       BC       604-682-0706 (Coastal Jazz and Blues Soc.)
Amsterdam       NL       020-6267764
*Calgary        CANADA   403-270-3609
*Ottowa         CANADA   613-232-7755
Vancouver       CANADA   604-682-0706

This list will be posted periodically or when major  changes  are
made.   It will also be mailed on request in response to email or
rec.music.bluenote requests.  Any new information or  corrections
can be sent to:

Bill Hery
AT&T Bell Labs
201-386-2362
hery@att.COM
From: alan@sierra.unr.edu (Alan McKay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Ayler's musical shift
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:31:35 GMT
Reply-To: alan@wrc.unr.edu (Alan McKay)
Organization: Desert Research Institute, University of Nevada

In article <SMEHTA.92Oct1103607@kwela.nynexst.com> smehta@nynexst.com writes:
>

>Ayler, Albert                                             Impulse! AS 9208 (LP)
>Title: The Last Album                                                          
>Recorded: 8/26/1969 - 8/29/1969 at Plaza Sound Studios, NYC                    
>Released: 1969
>With: Albert Ayler (leader), tenor sax, bagpipe chanter, vocals (vocals on 5,
>                             chanter on 1.)                                    
>      Mary Maria (Parks), vocals (on 2.)                                       
>      Henry Vestine, electric guitar (on 1,4.)                                 
       ??????????????
>      Bobby Few, piano (on all except 1.)                                      
>      Bill Folwell, bass, Fender bass (on all but 1.)                          
>      Stafford James, bass (on all but 1.)                                     
>      Muhammad Ali, drums (on all but 1.)                                      


Didn't Henry ("Sunflower") Vestine play in some early incarnation of
Canned Heat?


.....Al

w.a. mckay
desert research institute
reno, nevada

Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: London Composers Orchestra
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:02:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.131048.2838@nic.csu.net> hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu writes:
>In article <Bvt13B.4KB@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>  writes:
>> They are touring North America, thanks in part to the British Consulate.  
>
>Unfortunately, it's more like they're touring Canada, with Chicago
>being the only US stop. :-(

You had to move.  Or, you could have drove up to Vancover, no? :)

>Jeff, you'll be going to the full orchestra concert tonight and
>giving us detailed reviews, right? 

I couldn't make it.  Some things came up...


Jeff

Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Royalties and Promos (was Cutouts?) 
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:09:03 GMT

wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery) writes:
>As an aside about screwing artists out of royalties, the record clubs
>are also major offenders (legally, of course). No royalties are paid
>on "promotional" copies, which makes sense for copies sent to DJs
>(although a lot of these "reviewers copies" get sold by the reviewers
>unplayed, and there are stores in NY, LA, SF where you can get some
>bargains on reviewer's copies).

I've heard that record companies also get to write off promo copies
at full list price as being promotional expenses, or something to
that effect. This was from a guy who used to scam all the labels he could
for promo copies so he could sell them to pay for cheap hotels, booze
and taxis across town... he was an incredibly stupid con man, but he
knew the business from working in it and he scammed boxes of records
all the time, and he claimed that the big labels promoed heavy and with lots
of crap so they could write it off against profits elsewhere. Anyone 
considering trying this might be amused to hear this guy was a loser 
who spent time in jail. A real character though... 

When I worked in college radio ten years ago it was common for the station
to get multiple promo copies - to me it seemed like it was a sort of 
modern payola. They would give us lots of copies so the djs and staff 
could keep a few, give them away, or whatever and if the folks that got
free copies liked them they'd presumably play them more. One artist 
once called me up asking for home addresses of all of our djs so he
could make sure each one heard his new lp. 

  - malcolm@wrs.com  
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: mjs@fc.hp.com (Marc Sabatella)
Subject: Re: Joy Spring by Clifford Brown
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:11:55 GMT
Reply-To: marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.2 PL6]

: This sounds like STUDY IN BROWN (EmArcy 814 646-2).  Although SIB has 
: versions of "Cherokee" and "Sandu" on it (as well as "Jacqui", "Swingin'", 
: "Lands End", "George's Dilemma", "Gerkin For Perkin", "If I Love Again" and 
: "Take The A Train"), and features Harold Land (and George Morrow and Richie 
: Powell), it doesn't have a version of "Joy Spring" on it, however.

Ah, never mind.  You're absolutely right.  Don't know where I got that idea
from, sorry.

--
Marc Sabatella
marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: sjones@alfred.carleton.ca (Stan Jones)
Subject: Re: JAZZ TROMBONE
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:25:47 GMT

Roswell Rudd and Gary Valente have been mentioned in this thread and
it has been noted that Valente followed Rudd in the Carla Bley groups.
Rudd was the trombonist on the first Liberation Music Orchestra album,
Gary Valente on the second, and Ray Anderson on the third.
Xref: sparky rec.music.bluenote:8022 ba.music:1787
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote,ba.music
Subject: free jazz this weekend, & KONCEPTS
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:58:01 GMT
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.

>wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery) writes:
>>Koncepts Kultural      763-0682         480 3d St, Oakland

glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad) writes:
>Koncepts hasn't been at this location for about six months.
>In fact, they've been homeless for that whole time.

>The good news is that they expect to have a new location some
>time in 1993, and that they are sponsoring some fine programs
>at other locations.

>The first of these will be a series of duo performances at the
>Oakland Museum.  First up: Julius Hemphill and Abdul Wadud.

Clay, you beat me to it - there was an article in the Oakland Tribune
on 10/15 with some details:

This weekend there's a free outdoor family festival Sunday in the Oakland
Museum's garden. Sunday's Culture Jam will run from noon to 5:30 as an
outdoor jazz and cultural festival. Performers include vocalist Faye
Carol and pianist daughter Kito Gamble, E.W. Wainright's African Roots
of Jazz, Moshel Milon and the Bantaba Dance Ensemble, and the a cappella 
vocal group Street Sounds. THis is sponsored by Koncepts Cultural Gallery. 
There will be free arts and crafts activity booths for children, plus 
African, Caribbean and Afro-American food. It's co-sponsored by the museum.

Koncepts has a new temporary office at 247 4th Street and will be relocating
to a permanant office in that building after construction is completed. They
share the building with the City Center Dance Theater, Nuba Dance Theater, 
Troupe Movement and Business Volunteers for the Arts. 

The above event is free. The ones below will charge some admission fees: 

The Double-Up festival, with at least two duos per show (following up on 
their previous duets festival of improvisors who didn't usually work
together) starts November 13-14 at Oakland Museums's James Moore Theater: 

November 13-14:  Julius Hemphill on reeds and Abdul Wadud on Cello, plus
saxophonist John Purcell teamed with percussionist Milton Cardona. 

November 20-21:  pianist Amina Claudine Myers with quitarist Jeorme harris, 
cornetist Bobby Bradfor and reedsman Marty Ehrlich, and pianist Joe Bonner 
with violinist Michael White. 

November 27-28: World Saxophone Quartet reedsman Oliver Lake and drummer
Andrew Cyrille play together, along with cellist Deidre Murray and bassist 
Fred Hopkins. 

There will also be a poetry and music festival Friday-Sunday Dec.11-13. 

The Oakland Musem appears to located at 1000 Oak Street at 10th Street. 
510-834-2413 is the Museum info number. I don't have a listing for Koncepts. 

  - malcolm@wrs.com
From: hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu (William Hsu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: JAZZ IS DYING:HELP!!
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:42:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: nic.1992Oct14.154220.2881
Reply-To: hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu
Distribution: world

In article <1992Oct14.020141.7622@iscsvax.uni.edu>  writes:
> 
>      My strong opinion is up on the wall here.  I believe that music
> that is being released today really does not progress the already
> harmonically and melodically stressed boundaries.  

> It's tough to be stuck in
> the midwest and not experience the other coasts' point of view.  

It has nothing to do with being stuck in the midwest. I was "stuck"
in the midwest for 12 years and I don't make foolish remarks like
"JAZZ IS DYING". Paul Smoker (whom you mentioned) was stuck in the 
midwest (working out of Iowa as well) and he didn't have any delusions
about there being no good improvisers in the midwest.

Of course it depends on how you define "progress" and "the already
harmonically and melodically stressed boundaries". (huh?) It is of
course quite possible to define them so that nobody is capable of
doing anything interesting anymore.

And of course there are interesting and innovative musicians and
groups working in the midwest. I'll just talk about Chicago since
that's the scene I've been most familiar with in the past 4 years.
The new generation of AACMers are very active. I've heard so many
superb AACM horn players under 40 and I'm disgusted that they're not
known at all outside Chicago (except for a few outstanding groups
like Ed Wilkerson's 8 Bold Souls, you have heard of them, I hope?)
Then there's Ken Vandermark's original and impressive quartet,
Gene Coleman's ensembles. guitarist Jim O'Rourke's projects...

One cannot help but wonder if you get out much. Do you?

Bill


This request
> is important due to the fact that our beloved genre of jazz is dying and  
only
> by coming together and communicating will we be doing our little part in
> lengthening its beautiful life.  Please respond. 
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: mcgonig@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca (Gordon McGonigal)
Subject: Re: JULIAN PRIESTER AS LEADER?
Organization: Dept. of Elect. & Comp. Engineering, U of Manitoba
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:41:03 GMT

ghosal@navier (Sarbajit Ghosal) writes:
>Is any netter aware of any recording by the trombonist Julian Priester
>leading his own group? I am acquainted with his work only thru Sun Ra
>and Dave Holland.

A glance through an old ECM catalogue shows two albums: the already
mentioned POLARIZATION, and also LOVE, LOVE (rec. 1973).

Side 1 of LOVE LOVE sits firmly on the road between Miles' JACK JOHNSON
and PANGEA.  How he gets that trumpet wah-wah sound I don`t know -- I
wonder if it`s the alto trombone that`s listed in his arsenal.   Side 2
is in similar territory, although there isn`t the same electronic
dominance.   Not too much of Priester's horn, but a fine album
nonetheless.

POLARIZATION is closer to the stereotypical ECM tradition, and
Priester's bone is more prominent.
--
                                   * * *
Gord McGonigal                                  mcgonig@eeserv.ee.UManitoba.ca
Dept. of Electrical & Computer Engineering
University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, CANADA (R3T 2N2)       phone: (204) 474-6295
From: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Tribal Tech
Date: 13 Oct 1992 03:37:58 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, teh@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Richie L C TEH) says:

>	recently bought an album by Tribal Tech called "illicit". what a great album!!!
>I'm just wondering which of their other albums should I get? Any infos, news, recommandation are welcome!!! Thanks!!!

  Well, cool. _Illicit_ is Tribal Tech's fifth album; the other four are 
_Spears_ (my favorite), _Dr. Hee_, _Nomad_ and _Tribal Tech_ (in chronological
order, I believe). I'm relatively new to Tribal Tech, so the material is
still growing on me. I'd have to say though that _Illicit_ is so far my
least favorite of the bunch, with the possible exception of "Stoopid."
  Speaking along these lines, ala high-energy guitarocentric jazz-rock
(which I happen to like, thank you very much), I recently had a friend bring
me a rather interesting CD by Kazumi Watanabe, titled _Mobo Splash_. He
knew I'd been looking for some of his material with Bill Bruford and Jeff
Berlin, but he wasn't exactly sure what the titles were, and brought this
back with him from a trip to the big city. All I can say right now is "wow."

  Jeff

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From: jww@evolving.com (John W. Woolley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Who were those guys?
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:11:09 GMT
Organization: Evolving Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Who were the guys in "White Men Can't Jump" who stood around near Venice
Beach singing terrific instrumental-style jazz?  Have they made records?
-- 
                            -- Fr. John Woolley   (jww@evolving.com)
(enthusiastic over Augustine, Austen, babies, Bach, backgammon, baseball,
beer, the Bible, Botticelli, Burke, Charles I, Chesterton, Dante, Dixieland,
hardboiled, Hitchcock, Dr. Johnson, Latin, Mozart, Shakespeare/de Vere,
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Cadence shopping list
From: hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu (William Hsu)
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:20:50 PDT
Reply-To: hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu
Distribution: world

In article <kergete00UzxA1QXw3@andrew.cmu.edu>  writes:

> John Carter 8tet--"Dauwhe" (BlackSaint $9/$14)
Yummmmm. Highly recommended.

> Muhal Richard Abrams--"Rejoicing w/the Light" (BlackSaint $14)
Not my favorite Muhal from the mid '80s. I'd go for the recent
Blu Blu Blu, or Colors in Thirty-Eight.

> M Waldron/S Lacy--"Snake Out" (HatMusics $6.50)
What??? I'll have to get an order out right now :-)

> Butch Morris 12tet--"Dust to Dust" (NewWorld $14)
I was disappointed in this, and I loved the last two Butch Morris
"conductance" records. I know lots of people like this, but I
thought it was a lot of muddy textures, murky gestures and undeveloped
ideas. Sorry.

> Anthony Braxton--"Trio/Duet" (Sackville $7.50)
Nice.

> S Lacy/Evan Parker--"Chirps" (SAJ $10)
This is more like two Steve Lacy's than two Evan Parkers. Good stuff,
if a tad dry (and I'd prefer to hear two Evan Parkers, really.)

> B Morris--"Trends in Racism" (SoundAspects $16)
> B Morris--"Homeing" (SoundAspects $16)
See above. I like these two a lot. Trends is more uneven, but the
high points are a bit higher (like that incredible Zorn solo near
the beginning of side 2).

Bill
From: munnik7500@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: JAZZ IS DYING:HELP!!
Date: 14 Oct 92 02:01:41 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Fuck present day jazz and jazz artists.
   


     My strong opinion is up on the wall here.  I believe that music that is
being released today really does not progress the already harmonically and
melodically stressed boundaries.  We are in a state of a reactionary time. 
Musicians today (reference to specific examples as pop/jazz artists-Brecker,
Kenny G, Dave Kos, Yellowjackets, etc. AND 'classically trained jazz' artists
as The Marsalis Clan, John Faddis, T. Blanchard, Steve Colemann, Billy
Hollyday, etc.) do not progress, they perfect.  It has taken hundreds of years
of trial and error to have reached the situation that we as musicians are faced
with.  The last mode of progression seemed to have occured during the sixties
and early seventies with artists such as Ornette Coleman, Weather Report,
Anthony Braxton, Paul Smoker, Don Cherry, etc.  Since the enormous presence of
rock culture that has invaded the sacred area of jazz, it seems as though we
can't find the niche that present day jazz can fit into.  I'm confused to whom
and where to look for quality performing and compositional skills.
      In no means am I criticising the 'old cats' that are still alive and
kicking.  Even though they play and record to this day, I catigorize them as
men from the classical period of jazz.  I am referring to Joe Henderson, Dizzy
Gillespie, Phil Jones, Phil Woods, MJQ, etc.  These guys are perfecting the
style that they have grown up on.  Now I am faced with numerous genres of jazz
that rarely seem to interest me.  Where as an aspiring jazzer and composer do I
look for nowadays for stimulation without focusing on the past.
     This comes to the main topic of my printed concerns.  I hope that a few
would-be-jazzers would find the time to respond.  Your opinion need not accept
my view, just to hear the other side of the coin.  It's tough to be stuck in
the midwest and not experience the other coasts' point of view.  This request
is important due to the fact that our beloved genre of jazz is dying and only
by coming together and communicating will we be doing our little part in
lengthening its beautiful life.  Please respond. 
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: dvallat@ulys.unil.ch
Subject: DENNY_ZEITLIN_RECORDS
Organization: University of Lausanne - CH (Switzerland)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:30:31 GMT

	*I look for Denny Zeitlin albums except:
	*  - Cathexis (on CBS Sony CD)
	*  - Zeitgeist (LP)
	*  - the duet with Charlie Haden (ECM CD)
	*  - Home Coming (Living Music CD)

	All references are welcome...it's very hard to find Denny Zeitlin
	
	records in Switzerland...

	Reply or answer by mail==> E-mail: dvallat@ulys.unil.ch

	Thank's....
From: mjs@fc.hp.com (Marc Sabatella)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: JAZZ TROMBONE
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:33:19 GMT
Reply-To: marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.2 PL6]

: >JAZZ TROMBONIST RECORDINGS THAT I MIGHT BE ABLE TO LISTEN TO
: 
: A range of people to look for include
: 
: 	Kid Orey -- an oldie
: 	Kai Winding -- contemporary of JJ
: 	Bill Watrous
: 	Urbie Green -- has anyone ever seen him on record?
: 	Ray Anderson
: 	Roswell Rudd -- see recent posts
: 	Glenn Ferris -- used to be with Don Ellis

Add: Steve Turre (of Saturday Night Live / ponytail fame), who has recorded
straightahead post bop with Woody Shaw, and his own brand of poor-man's "world
music" on some of his own albums.  Also Robin Eubanks, who, with other members
of the M-Base collective, is putting out a lot of interesting avant-funk-jazz
music, in recordings under his own name and with Steve Coleman and others.
And Curtis Fuller, another bopper.  And what's-his-name, the guy with the
Kenton (?) band with the Italian-sounding name (yeah, I'm sure that helps...)

--
Marc Sabatella
marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
From: rdr@panix.com (Reuben Radding)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Radical New Jewish Culture Review
Date: 15 Oct 92 06:42:14 GMT
Organization: Doc Porter's Thrills Show

In <Oct.13.17.34.01.1992.14919@ruhets.rutgers.edu> bweiner@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Benjamin Weiner) writes:

>Reuben Radding Rites:
>:Am I the only person out there who's sick of poets who make constant
>:references in their poems to poetry and poets? I wish I had a dollar for
>:every one of them in NYC alone!



>There are eight million poets in the Naked City ..


I'm rich!! I'm rich!!


-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Reuben Radding           "Eliminate the ninnies       |  
rdr@panix.com             and the twits."             |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: njs@mrtoad.lahabra.chevron.com (n.j.spera)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Joe Negri (Guitarist)
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:31:35 GMT
Reply-To: njs@mrtoad.lahabra.chevron.com
Organization: Chevron, La Habra, CA

In article <1992Oct13.180141.21968@lsa.umich.edu>, m713@hosp.med.umich.edu writes:
|> 
|> I'm looking for recordings by the guitarist on the Mr.Rogers
|> kiddie show. His name is Joe Negri. Also the pianist on that
|> show. His name escapes me.
|> 
|> Thanks

The pianist is Johnny Costa - 

As far as recordings - my brother tried to get some for my mom last year
for Christmas - except for some tapes he made on his own - and I think he
was out of - I don't think any exist.
-- 
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 Chevron Petroleum Technology Co.    
 P.O. Box 446, La Habra, CA 90633-0446 
 Tel: (310) 694-7761  njs@chevron.com