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From: ROLLIDE@AUDUCADM.DUC.AUBURN.EDU (Dana Rollins)
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Subject: ANOTHER PROBLEM WITH LIBALP:
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:07:00 GMT
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     Hey Bill,
     I thought Arthur went home sick...
     Well, I don't mean to blow the whistle on him, but I just drove
past the Jax Liquor Store and he's in there, drunker than hell, arguing
with the guy behind the counter and wildly gesticulating.  He looked
out and unfortunately recognized me.  I was stopped at the light.  He
ran up to my car with a dirty rag and started smearing my windshield
with it.  I shouted a warning to him,
     "Get outa here, you lickered-up clown!"
but he grabbed my arm through the side window and began shrieking,
     "Help me on to some knick-knack, man!  For the love of God, please
help me on to some knick-knack!"
     I feel horrible about having to rough him up, but you know, if you
let those people take an inch, they'll take a mile.
     I don't know how you can stand it...

     Anyway, don't be too rough on him when he gets out of the
hospital.  He feels bad enough about the whole incident.  Pretend like
you believe whatever story he tells you.  He's evidently going through
some rough times with that pederasty case.

Talk With You Later,

Cube
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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 12:38:00 -06
From:         Dana Rollins <ROLLIDE@AUDUCADM.DUC.AUBURN.EDU>
Subject:      TEST TEST

This thing on?
Hey, do you all work on Saturdays?
Okay to come in out of the rain for awhile?


Merciful
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:53:00 -06
From:         Dana Rollins <ROLLIDE@AUDUCADM.DUC.AUBURN.EDU>
Subject:      Reply to NEVERMIND

*** Comments from MERCIFUL TIME LAG:
Whoa: logjam!
I sent those last two posts on Saturday afternoon.
What's gwine on?
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 11:04:00 EST
From:         LIBALP@EMUVM1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Magick and technology

>>Which end of the world are we talking about here?
>
>Orgasm 2012, of course.

Sorry, Scotto, I can't wait that long.


alp
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:49:00 -06
From:         Dana Rollins <ROLLIDE@AUDUCADM.DUC.AUBURN.EDU>
Subject:      FINDLEY, OHIO

     A travelling salesman is at the Holiday Inn in Findley, Ohio.
(Are you with me so far?  Okay.  Stick close.  This gets pretty nasty.)

     It's been a successful day for the salesman.  To celebrate the
closing of a big deal - the signing of a major contract - he goes into
the hotel lounge and orders a round.  He meets a pretty young secretary
from Akron, buys her a drink, and another and then another, and before
long, she becomes very inebriated.  When he feels the woman is so drunk
that she doesn't really know what she's doing, he carries her back to
his room and takes advantage of her.

     The next morning, the secretary wakes up in the unfamiliar bed,
begins to remember some of the events of the night before and is just
mortified.  It's very awkward.  Neither of them really knows quite what
to say.  The woman gathers her things and leaves, feeling ashamed and
depressed.

     The salesman is very depressed, too, and it weighs heavily on him
throughout the morning.  Finally, to try to ease the guilt, he locates
a Catholic church and goes into the Confessional.

     "Forgive me, Father, for I have sinned".  He tells the priest what
he's done and the priest tells him to say three Hail Mary's and he'll
be absolved.  He goes out, does the three Hail Mary's and feels much
better.

     The next night the salesman's in Chicago and it's almost the
identical scenario:  he meets a young woman in a bar, gets her very
drunk and takes advantage of her.  He feels the same remorse and once
again locates the nearest Catholic church.  He enters the confessional,
tells the priest what he's done, and the priest tells him to say an
entire rosary!

     "But Father," the salesman says, "in Findley, Ohio, the same thing
happened just yesterday and the priest there told me I only had to say
three Hail Mary's!"

     The priest just can't believe what he's hearing.  "Findley, Ohio?
Findley, Ohio??   WHAT DO THEY KNOW ABOUT FUCKING IN FINDLEY, OHIO?!?"


****
You've Been A Great Audience!
Thank You And Good Night!
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From:         MM <mbm@PACSCL.UARC.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      draw poker

or your six gun,

rat paw on plastic paper,

sentimental MTV money in motion in the movment of the young up and down stairs.

Or the lacquered nails of the jewelry rack, the moist undulating

plastic bag with handles, or brown paper in arms.

Hold your fire. Pecker chips on the breezeway, cloverleaf,

toy train, army men gave up their brushcuts for Sebastian Stripes,

the only man ever to act in simultaneously filmed movies

with widely divergent plots, the same movie being made twice at the same time

being a common experiment as the two collaborating poets in Australia

now haunt the literary scene, the Brekdown we need another taste of.

Enough said.
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From:         "Nothin' Lasts Forever,
              Even Cold November Rain" <LEAHY05@SNYBUFVA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: FINDLEY, OHIO

--> When he feels the woman is so drunk
--> that she doesn't really know what she's doing, he carries her back to
--> his room and takes advantage of her.
"takes advantage of her"...no that is rape...and the reason why rape is
not taken seriously in this country is b/c of the vocabulary our society uses to

make it seem like it is just a childish prank...
From: mbm@PACSCL.UARC.UPENN.EDU ((MM))
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Subject: Chapstick Flesh
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:35:37 GMT
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Can't you just tell your time is coming?

Haven't you placed a finger on all of the signs (each in turn)?

Astragalus is part of my portion, but my patriot needs

aren't met on the street

with any regularity--such an unbecoming word.

Frightened ships wide-eyed in the harbor,

cat's tail abloom.

Functioning at all points, clumsy with Ben,

Gertie's stitch

in her side,

Glenn's little motorcar world made of trees and bunting.

Would you apply just a little chapstick

would you merely outline

for us, with one phosphorescent line,

the newest ghostliness

of your chapstick flesh?


Carpenter.
From: MOORE7004@ISCSVAX.UNI.EDU (Scotto)
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Subject: Re: Magick and technology
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:25:00 GMT
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>Which end of the world are we talking about here?

>>Orgasm 2012, of course.

>Sorry, Scotto, I can't wait that long.

And they may all be wrong, too, it may NEVER happen that way, but who cares,
'cuz even if you dont' live to see the end of the world, you'll certainly get
to experience the end of YOUR world (to paraphrase a semi-famous
ethnobotanist).  Heck, how deep you wanna dig, alp?  And what tools you got for
digging?

I seen it, man, and I ain't no crazy boy.
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:18:22 EST
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Subject:      Re: FINDLEY, OHIO

>From: ROLLIDE@AUDUCADM.DUC.AUBURN.EDU (Dana Rollins)
>Subject: FINDLEY, OHIO
>Message-ID: <150580E@AUDUCADM.AUBURN.EDU>
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Poor Robert.  Can't even go off and sulk in peace.  Hope you two have
at least kissed and made up.

>****
>You've Been A Great Audience!
>Thank You And Good Night!

Each of us, or collectively?

libalp, still more than a little annoyed at Dana's insinuation...
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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 12:40:00 -06
From:         Dana Rollins <ROLLIDE@AUDUCADM.DUC.AUBURN.EDU>
Subject:      NEVERMIND

I just got a phone call.
I have to take two seven year olds to a roller rink.
Bonus!
Go Back To Sleep.

You Were Briefly A Great Audience!
Thank You And Good Afternoon!


Merciful
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hi all,
I just enter this list. And want to know the topics
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:23:00 -06
From:         Dana Rollins <ROLLIDE@AUDUCADM.DUC.AUBURN.EDU>
Subject:      Reply to Re: FINDLEY, OHIO

*** Original Author: FNORD-L @ BUFFALO - ** Remote User **; 11/18/92 17:47

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>
--> When he feels the woman is so drunk
--> that she doesn't really know what she's doing, he carries her back to
--> his room and takes advantage of her.
"takes advantage of her"...no that is rape...and the reason why rape is
not taken seriously in this country is b/c of the vocabulary our society uses to

make it seem like it is just a childish prank...

*** Comments from THE INSENSITIVE BOORISH DUNDERHEAD WHO TOLD THE
                  "JOKE" THAT UPSET THIS PERSON:
I'm sorry that this offended anyone.
But you should have seen how these fictitious women were dressed in
this joke!  They were begging for it...
No, that's just more of the same kind of incendiary confrontational
dialogue I weakly offer up in place of real humor.
I'm really not a bad person.  Honest.
I hope I'm not guilty by complicity of furthering the idea of rape as
"just a childish prank" with the telling of this joke.  If any of you
got that idea, just spit it out.  Right now.  Because I certainly don't
feel that way.
I don't like it when anyone forces themself on anyone else.
Now give me some milk or else go home.

Love,
Merciful Lee Dickens
Fictitious Net Character
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Subject : GETDISK
                       Hi all,

Does anyone know about GETDISK ??
Is that an exec, a module or something else ?
I heard that it may have a relation with TELNET.
Thank s for your reply.

                          Cesar.

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From:         Ulrich Giese <U001212@HNYKUN11.BITNET>
Subject:      performance question

friends,

the query system counts command with show *lineiotime* returns
the 'average time to perform a line I/O transaction'.

i have one line with a rather large value compared to all others.
does it make sense to route this link via other paths with lower
values ?

-ulrich-
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:55:31 -0600
From:         "Frank C. Fillmore Jr." <TFG01@IBRDVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      SQL/DS Training

 Kathleen,
     Other potential sources for SQL/DS and QMF training are:

 IBM - contact your account representative
 DBMI          - both of these have D.C. offices (Area code 202)
 Learning Tree - call for further information

 My firm - The Fillmore Group - specializes in SAA RDBMS (including SQL/DS),
 but in training we focus on customized curriculum development.  It sounds
 like what you need is an off-the-shelf course which is available through
 MTA or the other three companies mentioned above.

 I have not taken a course from Teitlebaum, but I know Michael and have
 heard good things about his SQL/DS and QMF sessions.

 Hope this helps,
 Frank

 I can be reached at IBRD 202-473-9682
 -or- at The Fillmore Group, Inc. 410-465-6335
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From:         "DR.S.SRINIVASAN,
              Associate Professor of CIS" <S0SRIN01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Can one read data in?

College of Business & PA,  University of Louisville
Louisville, KY 40292, PH: (502) 588 7830  FAX:502 588 7557
Thanks for taking time out to respond to my query.  I am still trying and hope
to succeed soon.

Thanking you.
Srini
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:20:41 CST
From:         "Kathleen Dickey" <KFD862B@SMSVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      sql training

I am running SQL/DS and QMF and have scheduled a training class for
the same.  I contacted Michael Teitelbaum to provide us with an
in-house training class.  I can get training for 20 for about the
same cost as sending 4 to his class.

I just learned thru state purchasing that I should have gone out for
bid!  (Utterly ridiculous IMHO).  The state is really cracking down
on us since all the uproar over our (now former) president and the
building of the Performing Arts Center.  University purchasing has
told me that I can get by this time by providing documentation that
I have contacted other vendors of this service and justification for
choosing Michael Teitelbaum.

Can anyone provide me with names of other companies that provide
inhouse SQL and QMF training?  Also any comments you have about
these classes would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,


Kathleen Dickey
Applications Programming Manager as well as DBA
Southwest MO State University
Springfield, MO
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:47:49 EST
From:         Carol Hey <IHEY400@INDYCMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: sql training

We scheduled an in-house class a couple of years ago.  IBM did the class
for us - they created a custom class based on a couple of classes they
offer at their centers (combining SQL/DS and QMF).  The class was basically
a good one, but the instructor was more knowledgeable about DB2 than SQL/DS.
The other company we checked out at that time was DBMI (Data Base Management,
Inc. - 1-800-232-3264).  I talked with Tamara Graham.  They could also
provide a custom in-house class based on their current course offerings.
The course description they presented us with was comparable to IBM's and
the cost was in the same range.
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:38:00 EST
From:         "John Hamlet 677-8000 X7958 (919)" <SNOJRH@MVS.SAS.COM>
Subject: Re: FETCH queue support for JES2 4.2
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> On Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:36:00 EST Phil Rengert said:
> >Does anyone have or know of an implementation of the old J/TIP FETCH queue
 and
> >$QJ/$QALL commands for JES2 release 4.2?  If not, does anyone have an opinion
> >of how difficult it would be or what the alternatives are?
>
> I am also interested in doing the same thing.  We are at JES2 2.2.0, and
> the original FETCH queue took over the $DUMMY queue type.  With JES2 4.2,
> $DUMMY no longer exists, which makes life more interesting.
>
> The most common suggestion that I have heard is to tell the users to
> route their output to a dummy destination (or to an unused SYSOUT class),
> and then redirect the output after they have looked at it.
>
> Unfortunately, much of the work that is done here is distributed for
> print at a foreign site, and many times a single job generates output
> to a series of sites, each with conflicting requirements for sysout
> class.  It seems to me that moving the burden of remembering the proper
> destination and sysout class from the job (where it is set once, and
> is always the same) to the user, who will have to look it up and get
> it right each time, is much too error prone.  (And besides, aren't
> computers supposed to make life easier, not harder?)
>
> I have considered setting a bit in the JQE that would be tested by
> work select.  If the bit is on, the job is assumed to be in the FETCH
> queue, and is non-selectable.  Of course, this would require that I
> also add code to maintain this bit during offload/reload operations.
>
> Better ideas would be greatly appreciated.

I like the work-select idea Jack. I assume you are talking about an
EXIT 7 for sysout reception that could check some field in the offloaded
(now being reloaded) JCT (maybe a user section in the NJE job header)
in order to set the JQE bit. Then and EXIT 14 to prevent the selection
of the output dataset for output processing. What about MSGCLASS=Z
(or equivalent flush classes ) ? Do we still need the old source code
mods to prevent them from being purged ? I think we might still be able
to use that part of the old code.

I'm also interested in a better way and I do believe that the original
routing must be maintained. I'd be drawn and quartered if we could not
maintain the original routing features.
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:36:00 EST
From:         Phil Rengert <PHIL@UORMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      FETCH queue support for JES2 4.2

Does anyone have or know of an implementation of the old J/TIP FETCH queue and
$QJ/$QALL commands for JES2 release 4.2?  If not, does anyone have an opinion
of how difficult it would be or what the alternatives are?

We are getting ready to migrate to the new release and would like to avoid
reinventing the wheel- or something equally archaic....

Phil Rengert
University of Rochester
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From:         Dave Ulrick <A01DGU1@NIU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Networked commands & messages - Questions

We too are using versions of the $UM and $UC commands.  Our MVS and
JES2 releases are 3.1.3 and 2.2.0 respectively.  However, we're not
running the code from TUCC; instead, we're running a variation on
that code from Doron Shikmoni at Bar-Ilan University.  He uses an
interesting way of getting around the problem you describe:  he
puts a V-con of HASPWQUE in the UCT, which if I remember correctly
*must* be link-edited into HASJES20.  The exit then loads the
V-con from the UCT, thus eliminating the need for the external
reference.  I found this exit on a SHARE JES2 Mods tape for
JES2/SP 1.3.6.  Even if you can't find Doron's exit, I'm sure that
you could use a technique like the preceding.

Dave

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:48:00 EST
From:         "John Hamlet 677-8000 X7958 (919)" <SNOJRH@MVS.SAS.COM>
Subject: Re: Networked commands & messages - Questions
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> On Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:34:00 EST "John Hamlet 677-8000 X7958 (919)"
>    <SNOJRH@MVS.SAS.COM> said:
> >UCT does NOT need to be linkedited resident with HASJES20. I allocate
> >a UCT in JES2 pre-initialization (EXIT 0) and finish initializing
> >it in post-initialization (EXIT 24). I expect Doron may be placing
> >the address in the UCT as you describe but via a JES2 source code
> >change. Can you double check the code you mentioned or point me to the
> >JES2 mods tape file number or organization ?
>
> Yes, you're right.  The UCT does *not* have to be link-edited with
> HASJES20, but it can be.  In fact, Doron's doc for his UCT
> mentions both approaches (link-edit into HASJES20 vs. Exit 0), and
> he says that he decided to go with the link-edit approach because
> that method facilitated his use of certain V-cons.  You'll notice
> that I read this doc *after* I made my previous post. :-)
>
> You'll find his mods for JES2/SP 1.3.6 in files 94 through 96 of
> the SP 1.3.6 mods tape.  They have DSNs of UBI.DOC136, UBI.MODS136,
> and UBI.SAMP136.  Look for mods BJ017 and BJ032.
>
> Dave
>

Thanks Dave.
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