From: s9874194@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (s9874194)
Subject: Re: What About Tibet? (Re: What about China done to Korea)
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Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:36:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.224141.1238@news.acns.nwu.edu>, usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns) writes...
>In article <l9q4hgINNs00@aludra.usc.edu> zyou@aludra.usc.edu (Zhongbai You)  
>writes:
>> In article <1992Aug26.192924.2705@news.acns.nwu.edu> usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu  
>(Usenet on news.acns) writes:
> 
>Thanks! I like this post of yours better than the previous ones. But let me  
>point out that Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania gained independence before URRS  
>collapsed.
> 
> 
>Before The above three countries gained their indepence, URRS's sovereignty  
>over them is also recognized by many nations in the world including China. Now  
>China has also recognized these three countries too. What do you think?
> 
> 
> 
>Again I am not a Tibet independence promoter. My point here is that it is up to  
>the people to decide their future. Why people in Illinois don't want to be  
>independent? Why people in Hawaii don't want to be independent although the  
>majority people there are non-white? Why Germans want to re-unite? Why so many  
>countyies in former USSR want to leave? Why Czech and Slovakia want to  
>seperate? I guess it's their choices, right? They vote for their futures. 
> 
>I bet you will feel difficult to show us that Tibet is a province of China. I  
>don't know, you don't know either. When you criticize others of being  
>"westernized", have you even thought that Chinese history books are also ones  
>of least to dependent on. You might remember that there are so many changes in  
>the Chinese history books according to the political needs.
> 
> 
>I did not promote giving up anything. I promote to think subjectively, not to  
>take things for granted and be polite to other people with different opinions.  
>You may learn something you have never thought of from them and they will learn  
>from you too. In fact I disagree with Tasim in some aspects but I like the way  
>he faces all the personal attacks. I bet he was angry because he was treated so  
>brutally but he still has not lost his individual dignity.
> 
>Carl
Carl, I think you missed the point. You said that it is up to the people
to decide. What people? Let's say the people in Tibet(I do not know
whether it will be the majority, let's assume it is the majority) want
to independence. But if the majority of the people in China wants to keep
the integrety of the country, which part of the people you are going to up
to? Do not be fooled. People do not decide anything. It is the power plays!
China just set up diplomatic tie with Seoul. Why can China have ties
with both Korea but nobody, even the United States, could have diplomatic
relations with "both China"? Power! Political and Military power!
By the way, Tibet has been a part of China since 1351! This history is much 
longer than the history of the United States.Do you know the story of Wang
Zhao-Jun? British role in Tibet was less than 100 years and it did not 
recognize Tibet's independence either.
c.q. from MA
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