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From: hackney@boston.sinet.slb.com (Kirsten Werne)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Cute things they do (17 months)
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:41:08 GMT
Reply-To: hackney@boston.sinet.slb.com (Kirsten Werne)
Organization: Schlumberger Technologies CAD/CAM Division



Alexander's most used words these days are "ALL DONE".  This can mean with
a bottle, done eating so get me out of this hi-chair, etc.  The best one
started a few weeks ago...

At 5:00 am I hear a very load and persistant, "MAMA, ALL DONE! MAMA, ALL DONE!"
from his crib...it was so funny to be awoken this way that I actually did
get him up...ok, my husband did, but we both couldn't stop laughing.  The
next night it wasn't so funny when it was a 1:30 wake-up call.  I let
Alexander know that he might be "ALL DONE", but we were not! :-)

Kids are great!

Kirsten Werne

Mom to Alexander, 17 months and ??? due 4/9/93
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: xtkmg@trentu.ca (Kate Gregory)
Subject: Re: Drugs for noses (was Re: vaporizer, anyone?  replaces decongestant
Keywords: antihistamine, chlorphenaramine maleate
Organization: Trent University, Ontario
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:34:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.044107.27012@latcs1.lat.oz.au> sietsma@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Jocelyn Sietsma Penington) writes:
>In article <1ebngkINNr74@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch) writes:
>>My conclusion has been--drugs are WONDERFUL! The difference in Will 
>>before getting a dose of Tylenol and after getting it was remarkable. The 
>>Pediacare (pseudoephedrine, essentially infant Sudafed) helped a lot, too, 
>>but it made him more wakeful. Are there other decongestants for infants that 
>>have less of this stimulant effect?
>>
>The other ingredient is an antihistamine, which also tends to dry the nasal

Antihistamines put ADULTS to sleep (I practically pass out) but make
many if not most babies more awake. Decongestants make adults and
babies more wakeful. If you have a baby who bounces off the walls
when given Triaminic, don't give Triaminic.

So what do you do instead? We had good results with simple saline
nose spray. The brand we got was Otrivin but since it's a saline
solution any brand will do. And Tylenol neither keeps them awake
nor knocks them out, though I have a friend who believes it does
because her normally-placid babies got fussy once or twice a year
and were "sedated" (ha ha) by Tylenol. The real story is they
only fuss when they are in pain (unlike my Beth who had six million
reasons for fussing) and the Tylenol fixes that and they sleep.

Preventing ear infections is like preventing heart attacks: it's
mostly genetic. Some kids have short tubes or funny-angled
tubes or some such, so every URI becomes an ear infection.
Since Beth got her first ear infection one week after she
completely weaned, and had them continuously till we changed
to a daycare that was stricter on ill children, my anecdotal
advice is keep on nursing and choose your daycare with extra care
if your child has demonstrated a susceptibility. But others
have posted (and no doubt will again) of ear infections in
completely breastfed children, of trying many many daycare
options, even having a parent stay home, but of the infections
persist. So YMMV, as always.

Kate
From: jthomas@ducvax.auburn.edu (THOMAS_JONI)
Subject: Re: Baby Monitors - Any Suggestions?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Auburn University--Auburn, AL
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:55:00 GMT

In article <1427100039@igc.apc.org>, Tim Plenk <tplenk@igc.apc.org> writes...
> 
>in regards to baby monitors
> 
>i have used the Fisher price ones and like them a lot.
>they plug directly into the wall, no base to get lost
>they have batteries for total independence from plugs
>they have two channels to choose the best reception
>they have lights to show activity as well as sound
>they work well
> 
>tim plenk
>cambridge, ma
> 
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From: choi@win48.nas.nasa.gov (Diana Choi)
Subject: Re: >>>> a new fun thread??..kids looking like parents
Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 17:47:06 GMT

(Steve Simmons) writes:

>Actually, the straight black Asian hair is also a recessive gene. Same
>with the typical black pupils. I am just curious if he has single or 
>double eyelids??? 
>
>Most Amerasian kids have American hair and eyes, dark yellowish complexion,
>double eyelids and the bigger American build.  In fact, the American 
>facial features also dominate although there does tend to be a slant in
>the eyes. Well, I get to find out next week. My wife is expecting 1-Dec-92. 
>She's from Hong Kong and I am from Connecticut. 

I'm assuming that by "American" you mean Caucasian? - nowdays American 
encompasses so many different races that its not a very useful description.

In my family, the "hapa" kids (half caucasian) look much more asian
than caucasian.  Their hair tends to be SLIGHTLY browner than most asians,
their complexion's a LITTLE rosier, and their eyes a LITTLE rounder.  
Yes, they also have double eyelids...but so do all of the pure asians
in the family.

diana, mommy to lea (100% american but 1/2 russian, 1/4 japanese, 1/4 korean)
From: hyler@ast.saic.com (Buffy Hyler)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: How to Deal with Overly Shy 6 Month Old
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:35:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: ast.1992Nov23.163550.27259
Reply-To: hyler@ast.saic.com
Organization: SAIC

In article 17999@netcom.com, pam@netcom.com (Pamela Araki) writes:
>Hi!  I need some help ...
>
>My six month old, Brandon, is *extremely* shy.  He refuses to be
>held by anyone but mom, dad, and one of his grandmothers.  If 
>anyone so much as looks at him the little lower lip goes out and
>he starts bawling.
>...
>Anyway, how do I break him of this?  If I as much as leave
>the room he gets anxious.  And, I'm with him almost constantly.
>It can't be lack of attention, just maybe too much attention.
>Any ideas?  Any comments would be very appreciated.


Actually, Brandon may just be being Brandon.  When my now 5.5 year old
son was Brandon's age he was just starting into what you described
above.  Up until that time David was happy as a clam to be held for
5-10 minutes by just about anyone.  Then, around 7-8 months he became
very particular about who held him which was primarily only people he
knew rather well.  As he got older this attitude towards strangers
stayed the same.  He would hardly look at people he didn't know until
after about 30-60 minutes of being around them and heaven help them if
they touched him.  But if he met the person on a fairly regular basis
(ie. once a week) then he was pretty outgoing and friendly.  He does
make one strange exception.  We call them "Gammy" types.  He seems to
be quite at ease with my mother's friends even when meeting them for
the first time.

Anyway, I know how it is to be a little frustrated by having to always
be in eyesight of your child at all times or hear immediate wails of
anguish, but you eventually learn to adapt.  I think the best thing we
did was to get David into a socially (non-academic) pre-school.  He is
still very shy, but he has learned how to express his dislike of being
touched or talked to by strangers in a relatively polite manner...well,
most of the time :-)  And most adults are *very* understanding and
quite a number of the kids as well.  I used to encourage the adults who
wanted to be near him to just play with him and talk gently.  In a few
cases David would within a few minutes start interacting and smiling.
I noticed that these adults were the ones who let David give the
signals and waited for them.

Now, on the plus side of all this, I had a kid who never, never ran
away from me at any time when we were out and about.  He always kept me
in eyesight.  So there is some balance to all of this....:-)



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Buffy Hyler (hyler@ast.saic.com)
SAIC, Campus Point
San Diego, California
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From: sheri@cs.utexas.edu (Sheri Brice)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: reading
Date: 19 Nov 1992 14:45:32 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: truffles.cs.utexas.edu

Hi.  I am interested in learning how to (or even whether to) start teaching
my daughter who is 4 to read.  She loves books and does the memorization
like all kids.  She goes to a day care each day but they do not teach the 
kids to read.  Recently, she has been asking us to teach her to read.  I am
not sure how to go about this.  I would appreciate any ideas from parents
out there who know how to teach reading.  Also, is there any software for
the Mac that would be helpful with learning to read?  

Thanks in advance for your help.

sheri
From: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: vaporizer, anyone?  replaces decongestant
Date: 17 Nov 1992 21:17:08 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Distribution: world
Reply-To: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
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Originator: pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <25779@sybase.sybase.com>, mpiller@sybase.com (Marion Piller) 
writes:
|> Doesn't anyone use vaporizers anymore?  I have used the old-fasioned
|> variety, hot steam, not cold steam, with a great deal of success with
|> both my kids, who are now 13 and 6.  You have to keep the window slightly
|> open and the door ajar to avoid *really* steaming up the room, but boy do
|> my children sleep well with it when they have colds.

I'm glad it works for you. Will just had his first ear infection (along 
with a cold, of course, which he gave me, of course, which has been just 
awful since he's been waking us up screaming because his nose was blocked, 
of course...yes, I know I'm whining about things you've experienced, too). 
The vaporizer, which we used heavily, may have helped, but it certainly 
wasn't enough.

My conclusion has been--drugs are WONDERFUL! The difference in Will 
before getting a dose of Tylenol and after getting it was remarkable. The 
Pediacare (pseudoephedrine, essentially infant Sudafed) helped a lot, too, 
but it made him more wakeful. Are there other decongestants for infants that 
have less of this stimulant effect?

If I take decongestants during a cold, it prevents a sinus infection. If I 
don't do that, I find that decongestants clear up a bacterial sinus infection 
in me just as quickly as antibiotics do, and without the inevitable yeast 
infections that antibiotics cause. This makes me think that it could be wise 
to give Will decongestants (as well as the vaporizer) as soon as he develops 
a cold, to prevent an ear infection. It works for me, but I hesitate to 
routinely give Will a drug with such an unfortunate side effect (we both 
need him to sleep when he's sick). How do you prevent ear infections in a 
baby?

Paula Burch
pburch@bcm.tmc.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: ashley@osc.edu (Ashley Burns)
Subject: Fine Art of Introducing Solids
Organization: Ohio Supercomputer Center
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:57:53 GMT

With the doctor's blessing, I'm introducing my almost 4-month-old,
Austin, to solids. (This is motivated by an only 3oz. gain in the 
last three weeks.) Now he gets 2-3 breastfeedings and 24 oz. of 
formula per day. 

We've tried cereal a few times with limited success over the last 
couple of weeks. He sort of tongues it around in his mouth and 
most of it comes back out. I thought he might be tongue-thrusting,
which one book I read said meant he wasn't ready, but now I tried 
sweet potatoes and he is getting most of it.

My questions concern technique and amount. 

1. Technique: (Am I supposed to and) How do I get him to suck it 
off the spoon? My mom said he should be sort of sucking but right 
now there are no signs of it. So I sort of dump it in his mouth, he 
moves it around messily and swallows most of it, and then he opens 
his mouth again (by the way, he didn't open his mouth again right 
away for cereal so I think the sweet potatoes may be a hit).  
Any tips? 

2. Amount: He's eating a tablespoon or so of half formula, half
food per meal. How much does a four-month-old eat and how do you 
balance it with formula? Austin does not ask for food at all
(this has led babysitters not to feed him for eight hours) 
and will only eat 32-35 oz. if you are feeding as much as possible
during a day (this stat held for two days this week when I pumped 
instead of directly breastfeeding). How much did your infant eat
and how did you know when he/she had enough? 

By the way, he weighs 16 lbs., has full control of his head, and 
can almost sit up.  (I hear the head control is necessary.)

So how did you parents of older children introduce solids? 

I'll summarize if there's enough interest. Thanks in advance!

--Ashley Burns, ashley@osc.edu
From: ck270@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Andrea Von Ahnen)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Lost Song Lyrics - Sesame Street "Captain Vegetable" song
Date: 23 Nov 1992 07:47:58 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I've been watching Sesame Street for about 25 years (I think it
has been on about that long, hasn't it?), so allow me to fulfill
a couple of lyric requests:
   
Captain Vegetable
  
It is I, Captain Vegetable, with my carrot and my celery
Eating crunchy vegetables is good for me
And they're good for you so eat them too
For teeth so strong your whole life long
Eat celery and carrots by the bunch
Three cheers for me, Captain Vegetable, crunch crunch crunch!
  
My name is Andy, I love candy
I eat candy whenever I can
If it's handy, gimme some candy
It's so good and sweet, the perfect treat
Its such a thrill to eat my fill and gobble 'till there's nothing on
the plate
Candy is great, but wait!  "Who are you?  Some kind of bad dream?"
"Do I look like a bad dream?"  
It is I, Captain Vegetable, with my carrot and my celery
etc.
  
My name is Eddie, I love spaghetti, so I eat it whenever I can
If its ready, gimme spaghetti
Its a lovely thing, it looks like string, its such a thrill to eat my
fill and gobble 'till there's nothing on my plate
Spaghetti is great, but wait!  "Who are you, some kind of weirdo?"
"Do I look like a weirdo?"  It is I, Captain Vegetable
etc.
  
"Gee Capt. Vegetable, this is the best thing to come along since meatballs!"
   
The Word is "NO"
  
No parking, no biking, no swimming, no hiking, no driving
Too fast or slow
And the word is No, no no no no no no And the word is no, no nono
No camping, no cooking, no laughing, no looking,
no stopping, no place to go 
And the word is No, no no no no no  And the word is no...
Cause it's just one word, just two letters
Give someone (unsure of words) to get it done
We'd be worse off without it, no doubt about it, stand up
and shout it, No's no fun!
No talking, no teasing, no rhymin', no reason,
no hiding from N and O  --- and the word is No, no no no no no
And the word is No, no no no no no  etc.
    
   
Of course, these songs don't compare to Put Down the Duckie, 
Elmo's Song, Batty Bat...   ;)
   
Andi  (Mom to Aaron, Alex, and triplets due 3/3/93)
   
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: J.Osborne@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au
Subject: Re: Imaginary friends
Organization: University of Tasmania
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 23:46:39 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.003838.26194@ulysses.att.com> smb@ulysses.att.com (Steven
Bellovin) writes:
>Sigh.  What do you do when your 3 YO son insists that you invite his
>imaginary friend over for a play date?  Fortunately, he didn't throw
>a tantrum over the issue....
>


Why not play along with it? I remember having an imaginary friend for years
(and so did my brother and sister). I think they can actually be quite useful
sometimes as distractors - e.g. 'I can't hear so-and-so crying - why are you so
unhappy'.

I don't think any of our family got permanently affected by our little friends!

Jo

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: J.Osborne@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au
Subject: Re: Advice needed-first plane trip
Organization: University of Tasmania
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 23:35:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.133724.19227@cas.org> jdb26@YP.sparcm1 (Jeff Bailey)
writes:
>We're taking our 15 month old on his first plane trip this weekend.
>I have a feeling it could be 3 hours of hell!!  Any advice on how
>to him occupied or help with ear popping???  I'd like to hear what
>other people's experiences have been.  Even if my fears are realized, it
>will still be better than 2 days in a car!



Really, I don't think it'll be as hard as you think. I've taken my little fella
on a few trips now - most recently (at age 18 months) to see my sister, which
meant two plane trips of about one hour and two-and-a half hours.

On balance I recommend a window seat, as you sort of have more room to expand,
and annoy less people. Jack spent a while happily pulling the window blinds up
and down too. My best 'find' was a $1 pot of bubble mixture with a wand in it.
Jack spent ages sitting on my knee watching me blow them and trying to do it
too. And when some of the mixture spilt, that didn't really matter. I don't
think we were doing anything to annoy the other passengers - in fact any of the
bubbles that drifted back were greeted with amusement.

As for ears - also less problem than I feared. Jack has a pacifier which he
sucks at night and I let him have that for take-off and landing if he wanted
it. I also gave him a feeding cup with his favourite juice in it when he got a
bit unhappy on one descent - seemed to do the trick.

I guess I'm quite lucky in that Jack is happy when there are plenty of things
and people to look at. But if there are two of you to do the entertaining, it
should be a breeze! 

Enjoy the trip!

Jo
From: tigger@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Grace Sylvan)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Potty Training???
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:10:17 GMT
	<1992Nov18.090526.733@vms.huji.ac.il>
Distribution: na,world
Organization: Sylvan Associates


   >> I have a 23 month old daughter.  She knows what to do and where to go
   >> potty.  When I ask her to show me where she needs to go when she has to go
   >> potty, she leads me to her potty chair.  After she is wet then she will
   >> say "potty".  Is she too young to potty train?  I need some ideas.
   >>
   >> Lisa Hamre

Lisa,

She isn't too young. My daughter was in panties at 21 months, after
she kept her diaper dry on her own (well, she told us every time she
needed to go, and we'd help her) for a whole weekend.

Give her lots of positive reinforcement, and leave her in diapers
until she's doing really well. You can try and explain to her that she
needs to let you know before she wets her diapers, and that she can
put her pee into the potty. You can try and have her sit on the potty
for a minute after a meal or nap or other time when she might need to
pee, to see if she manages to do it. Then you'll get the chance to
reinforce the behavior.

Katherine started telling us very young - and what we'd do is take her
to the potty when she told us. Often she had already wet (her first
attempts were at *15* months, something we thought was incredibly
unbelievable - but she did manage to pee in the potty a few times
before medical emergencies turned our life upside down for 2 months).
But we praised her for sitting on the potty and trying. We picked it
up again at 17-18 months, and it was slow going. First she'd manage to
pee in the potty about every other day, then once a day, then twice a
day, then 3 times a day. We'd praise her for trying, we'd praise her
more for success. But you don't have a lot of time to find the
bathroom when they're so young, so you get to know every bathroom
location everywhere you go :-). We let her tell us when she wanted to
try, and then we'd praise her for trying. At the beginning, we were so
corny that when she'd suceed we'd get the other parent to come and
praise, too, if they were available. Since we kept her in diapers
until she kept herself dry, accidents weren't a hassle.

She also didn't like laying still for diaper changes, and we'd mention
that she could avoid diaper changes by learning to use the potty. Oh,
and the first week out of diapers was horrible. One day dry, the next
3 accidents, then another dry day. It took a week or two for her to
understand that she needed to use the potty *every* time, and I had
second thoughts during that period. But I carried lots of spare
clothing for her, and we made it. 

Encourage her, and if she loses interest, don't worry, she'll probably
pick it up again later.
-- 

Tigger (Grace Sylvan)                Mom of Katherine Yelena, 8/8/89,
tigger@satyr.sylvan.com              Corey 1/31/91; we loved him so,
                                     Robin Gregory born 2/28/92

 "It seems to me that our large goal is to find the ways to help our
 children become humane and strong."
 
              - Dr Haim Ginott quoted by Adele Faber & Elaine Mazlish
From: ncramer@bbn.com (Nichael Cramer)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Brahm's lullaby
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:14:17 GMT
Reply-To: ncramer@labs-n.bbn.com (Nichael Cramer)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

millerj@belize.crd.ge.com (Julia K. Miller) writes:
>	Does anyone know the words to Brahm's (sp?) lullabye?  

Sure.  One of my daughters' favorites:

   Lullabye and goodnight,
     Dy-duh-dy-dy dy dy dyyyy
       Dy-duh-dy, dy-duh-dy  Dy-duh-dy-dy dy dy dyyyy
   Dy-duh-dy, dy-duh-dy  Dy-duh-dy-dy dy dy dyyyy
     Dy-duh-dy-dy dy dy dyyyy
       Duh-dy dyddy dy dy dyyyyy

   Duh-duh-DYYYYYY duh-duh-dyyyy
      duh-duh dy dy dy dy dy
   Duh-duh-DYYYYYY duh-duh-dyyyy
     duh dy-dyddy dy dy dyyyyyyy.

> ...Thanks

Any time.

Nichael
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From: gbk@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (g.b.karlovsky)
Subject: Re: What does it mean when it's GREEN?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:32:43 GMT

In article <9211201648.AA17633@panhed.psc.edu> grant@panhed.psc.edu (S. Grant) writes:
>
>A bright green stool can also mean that the child had a grape popsicle or
>alot of grape kool-aid type drink.
>
>-Shirl

This brought amazing memories of our daughter who's stool looked like
it had blood in it.  Much to our surprise (and chagrin), she had been
given strawberry jigglers for dessert, at daycare.

YUK!



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From: krages@ohsu.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Age, aging and appearence
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:38:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohsu.1992Nov19.213842.12050
Organization: BICC - Oregon Health Sciences Univ

I'm 5'1" and about 100 lbs. (when I'm not pregant - I'm 120 right now).  All my
life I have looked young.  In 7th grade I weighed 59 lbs. and people said I
looked like I belonged in kindergarten.  When I was a junior in college (age
20) and went to see a film with some friends, the cashier started to sell me a
child's ticket (I did have my hair in braids).  I have also been carded
numerous times as an adult.  Now that I am 37 and pregnant with my first child,
I think perhaps it will be beneficial to look young (so people don't think I'm
the child's grandmother).

Kathryn Pyle Krages
Oregon Health Sciences University
Portland, OR 97201
krages@ohsu.edu
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