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From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: U.S. "Dream Team"
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:25:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.230742.23405@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:

>Being humiliated by the Russians is not exactly good publicity for
>the NHL, even if they may be mostly NHL Russians doing it.       

And just how do you know that the Russians are going to humiliate the Canadians
and the Americans?  The situation is different.  In the past, the Russian teams
come to North America having played years as a team (e. g., Dynamo Moscow,
Red Army, Dynamo Riga), but this time it's different; the Russians will only
have as much time as the Canadians and the Americans have at putting a team
together.

===============================================================================
"M. C. Hamrlik: Can't Touch This Lightning."
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Luc Robitaille for Hart!
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Sandis Ozolinsh for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Calder: Lindros & more
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 02:00:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.002230.23087@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> c5ff@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (COOK  Charlie) writes:

>   By the way, many players choose not to play in the NHL right away.  I'm 
>pretty sure Joe Juneau chose to play in the Olympics for Team Canada first.
>That is his choice. 

More fuel for the fire...  The number of games played in the NHL last season
by players who were drafted in the first round of the 1991 draft:

1.	QUE Eric Lindros		0	(Canadian Olympic)
2.	SJ  Pat Falloon			79
3.	NJ  Scott Niedermayer		4	(Canadian Olympic, juniors)
4.	NYI Scott LaChance		17	(American Olympic)
5.	WIN Aaron Ward			0
6.	PHI Peter Forsberg		0	(Sweden)
7.	VAN Alex Stojanov		0
8.	MIN Richard Matvichuk		0
9.	HAR Patrick Poulin		1
10.	DET Martin Lapointe		4
11.	NJ  Brian Rolston		0
12.	EDM Tyler Wright		0
13.	BUF Phillippe Boucher		0
14.	WAS Pat Peake			0
15.	NYR Alexei Kovalev		0	(EUN)
16.	PIT Markus Naslund		0	(Sweden)
17.	MON Brent Bilodeau		0
18.	BOS Glen Murray			5
19.	CAL Niklas Sundblad		0	(Sweden)
20.	EDM Martin Rucinsky		6
21.	WAS Trevor Halverson		0
22.	CHI Dean McAmmond		5

And of those players with 0 games in the NHL last season, Matvichuk, Wright,
Boucher and Kovalev are playing in the NHL right now, along with Lindros.
Why punish Lindros, then, if almost all players don't make it to the NHL their
first season after being drafted?  BTW, of the 21 1990 1st round picks, only
Owen Nolan, Petr Nedved, Keith Primeau, Mike Ricci, Jaromir Jagr, Darryl
Sydor, Derian Hatcher, Drake Berehowsky, Brad May, and Keith Tkachuk are in
the NHL right now.  And only Nolan, Nedved, Ricci, and Jagr played in the
'90-'91 season, if I am not mistaken.

===============================================================================
"M. C. Hamrlik: Can't Touch This Lightning."
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Luc Robitaille for Hart!
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Sandis Ozolinsh for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Tuesday's (Nov. 10) game of the night!
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:09:10 EST
Organization: Penn State University

Of course, by now, somebody has realized that I accidently wrote Kings at
Canucks instead of Kings at Jets.  My mistake!  No need to flame.
My apologies!
** Rob **
From: mre@teal.Eng.Sun.COM (Mike Eisler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Another bad Kings trade...
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:43:20 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: teal

In article <1992Nov6.062900.2245@unisol.com> haral@unisol.com (Haral Tsitsivas) writes:
>The Kings's new GM has just proven that he can be worse than his predecessor
>by trading Peter Ahola for Jeff Chychrun.  Peter Ahola lead the Kings last 
>season with a +12 and his reward is a one-way ticket to Pittsburgh!!!  ....

His reward might just be a Stanley Cup ring. I doubt he's complaining.
	-mre
From: kim@guppy.uucp (Isaac Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Rules interpretation
Date: 12 Nov 92 10:14:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: network.1dtaplINNgta
Distribution: world
Organization: UC San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: guppy.ucsd.edu

In a hockey game I just played, we had an interesting
situation arise where the referees did not know what the
proper course of action was.

We dress only one goalie.  I am the back-up goalie on my
team, but usually play a normal shift on defense.  I get a
roughing penalty (2 minutes).  While we are short-handed,
our normal goalie gets hurt.  The question is:

Can I leave the penalty box and suit up for our injured
goalie and have someone else serve the remainder of the
penalty?

The other team argued that since I was on the ice at the
time of my questionable infraction, that I had to serve the
remainder of the penalty and someone else (ie not our normal
backup) had to put on the goalie pads.

I argued that if a backup goalie who was dressed got a
penalty on the bench (for reaching over the boards and
punching somebody for example), that someone else would
still serve the penalty for the backup (actually, I wasn't
sure of that).  If the regular goalie gets hurt, the backup 
would come off the bench and play while the other guy is 
still in the box.  I guess I was more convincing and won 
the argument, to the loud protests of the other team.

What is the correct call?  Does a backup goalie sits in 
the penalty box?

Now, is the situation different if the penalty occurs 
near the end of a period and our coach wants to change
goalies because the original goalie has been ineffective?
Can I put the goalie pads on and start the next period with
some else sitting in the box?

Isaac (kim@bull.ucs.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: Re: Info on Duguay/Sweeney?
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:45:27 GMT

dtokarew@tokafew.Doc.Provo.Novell.COM (Deb Tokarewich) wrote:
>I was at the Salt Lake/San Diego (IHL) game last night and noticed Ron (is  
>that his first name?) Duguay wasn't playing, wasn't sitting out, and  
>wasn't listed on their current team roster. I thought that when he didn't  
>make an NHL team this pre-season, he'd gone back to the Gulls.

He said on TV that during his attempted comeback, he got injured. So he decided
to hang up the skates for good. Whether or not he went to a minor league team
I don't know. Supposedly he is doing radio for the Lightning when the games are
on TV (otherwise the TV crew does the radio). I'll try to listen tonight since
the game is on TV.

Tom
From: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Zhamnov... when did he come back.. how does he look?
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:56:59 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

In article <1992Nov12.170504.5235@access.usask.ca> johann@jester.usask.ca (James Johannesson) writes:
>Hi All...
>
>  When did Zhamnov come back from his injury? Did he play in either of
>the blow-outs the Jets had (against Edm. or Van.?) I am curious cause
>someone has him in our fantasy league and is looking to move him.

I know that he didn't play against Edmonton, and don't believe that
he played against the Canucks either.  He did play against the Kings
(got his first goal, finally!) and looked pretty good.


Daryl Turner : r.s.h contact for the Winnipeg Jets 
Internet: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca -or- daryl.turner@mailbox.bison.mb.ca 
FidoNET: 1:348/701 -or- 1:348/4  (please route through 348/700)
Tkachuk over to Zhamnov, up to Selanne, he shoots, he scores! 
The Jets win the Cup!  The Jets win the Cup!
Essensa for Vezina!  Housley for Norris!  Selanne for Calder!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: kjmcrae@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (insert name here)
Subject: Possible Calgary trades???
Keywords: Vernon, Cullen, Hawerchuk
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:23:48 GMT

I keep hearing rumours that the Flames are shopping around for a
good play-making centre and are willing to part with Mike Vernon to 
get one (due to their apparent surplus of goalies).   

A couple names I've heard tossed around in these rumours are John  
Cullen and Dale Hawerchuk.  Are Cullen and/or Ducky not happy where 
they are now??  Are their contracts up after this season?  What's up?!

Has anybody heard anything more about the possibility of either of these
trades (or any major one involving Calgary) going down??

...km
"I'm a man who respects a good coma." - J.Seinfeld
From: vander@flab.fujitsu.co.jp (Mike van der Velden)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Why tie scores? (was IHL parent clubs)
Date: 13 Nov 92 09:01:03 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd., Kawasaki, Japan

In article <BxMH5G.4KF@Novell.COM> dtokarew@tokafew.Doc.Provo.Novell.COM (Deb Tokarewich) writes:
>
> As another poster earlier today mentioned, it's rare to find a sport/game  
> that can end in a tie. Most competitions are based on deciding a "winner"  
> and seeing who is the best at that particular meeting of the two  
> teams/players...


First, why do you *need* to resolve ties during the regular season?
You mentioned it being difficult to find another sport in which it is
possible for a game to end in a tie.  What about soccer?  Soccer is
arguably the most popular sport in the world, and there doesn't seem
to be a need to resolve ties there.  Why should hockey?

Second, in every other sport except soccer (that I can recall) where
there is a tie, the winner is determined by continuing to play more of
the same game.  But the difference is, in all those sports, scoring is
much more commonplace than in hockey, so they don't have to keep
playing for that much longer.  In baseball, it is possible to go a
long time in extra innings without a decision, but the players there
play every night anyway, and it just isn't as physically demanding as
hockey.  In hockey, you just can't keep playing indefinitely, exciting
as it might be, because there are other teams to play the following
night.  How'd you like to play 4 road games in 5 nights (as the
Canucks used to do all the time before more western teams came
around), and have two or three of them go into double OT?  Yikes!  I
think it would make games a joke if one team was too tired to play.
It would make good teams poor.

You really can't compare hockey with other sports in terms of
ties, because you can't realistically keep playing until one team or
another scores.  Thus, people have proposed a shootout.  But then, hockey
would be rare in that it would be the only sport that didn't resolve
ties by playing more of the game.  (ie.  hockey games would not be
resolved by playing hockey).

IMHO, a shootout would *really* cheapen the game.  Leave it out, or
keep it in the minor leagues. 
 
--
Mike van der Velden             
s-mail: Distributed Systems Laboratory, Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd.
        1015, Kamikodanaka Nakahara-ku, Kawasaki 211, Japan
e-mail: vander@flab.fujitsu.co.jp
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: jwh@sei.cmu.edu (John Huber)
Subject: Re: NHL INJURY REPORT FOR 11-05-92 to 11-12-92
Keywords: injury notes now done weekly
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:56:57 GMT


In article <1992Nov12.202750.22952@cbnewsi.cb.att.com>, bks2@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (bryan.k.strouse) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> NHL INJURY REPORT FOR 11-05-92 to 11-12-92
|> 
|> (Weekly update of injuries- NHL)
|> 
|> 
|> TEAM	PLAYER			INJURY				DATE BACK
|> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> 
|> PIT	Bob Errey		spr. left ankle			D-to-D
|> 

Tom Barrasso, Kevin Stevens, and Ulf Samuelsson are injured and out to varying
degrees (Kevin for 3 more weeks, others day-to-day).  However, Bob is back in
the line-up and skating well.

-Jay


John W. Huber, Jr. - aka Jay   | Penguins - 1991,1992 Stanley Cup Champions
Software Engineering Institute | Pirates - 1990,1991,1992 NL East Champions
SEI 3217        (412) 268-3550 | MasterCraft - The ONLY boat for skiing
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From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Fuhr a cheerleader?(was:Re: SABRES Update: Malarchuk, Fuhr
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:58:52 GMT

In article <1drfquINNjek@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> chrisl@balsam.ppc.ubc.ca (Chris Lynch) writes:

>Nelson, Nelson. I know you mildly dislike Grant Fuhr, but please don't let it cloud
>your judgement. If the Leafs were to trade Fuhr, they would get a forward, no 
>doubt, and his insertion to the Leafs lineup could cause a chemistry mess, perhaps.

I am not sure I agree with this.  If the Penguins acquire Luc Robitaille for
Ken Wregget (horrors, horrors), for example, will Robitaille in fact make the
Penguins regress by "breaking up the chemistry"?

Fuhr is not currently playing.  (Whether if he should have been if he had not
been injured is another question...)  Ergo, he doesn't have anything to do with
the surge the Leafs are having.  Getting Hawerchuk (which would be a mistake
by Buffalo, IMO) for him can do nothing but improve the team.

===============================================================================
"M. C. Hamrlik: Can't Touch This Lightning."
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Luc Robitaille for Hart!
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Sandis Ozolinsh for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
From: bittle@niktow.canisius.edu (Jason Bittle)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: * for a beer: trades by Washington..
Date: 13 Nov 92 04:56:16 GMT
Organization: Canisius College, Buffalo NY. 14208

who did Washington trade.. Kelly Miller, or Kevin Miller?

I have a friend saying Kelly, and another saying Kevin!

A beer rides in the outcome!




-- 
ciao,                             
Jason Bittle (bittle@canisius.edu) 
(a.k.a. Pillsbury Dough Boy )
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From: jeff.beaty@rose.com (jeff beaty)
Subject: LEGAL BETS,HABS,PENS
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:15:38 GMT
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Date Entered: 11-10-92 18:12


I live in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada...up here our Provincial Lotto 
Corporation runs _SPORT SELECT_  It is a legal way to bet on 
NHL/NFL/CFL games.  Don't know if they will add basketball.   Is there 
any other stuff like this in other provinces or states?  This is quite 
new (2 weeks) but everyone I know is laying down at least $2.00 bets 
daily.  I mainly bet on the hockey games...a couple football games 
maybe.

How about those Canadians!!!  I am a huge fan of them, I never thought 
they would be this good...second place maybe...but they are kicking 
ass!

Well, looks like Pittsburg is dying off...too bad about 
Stevens...they ain't doing so well away from home...but I got then for 
a win in Minnesota tonight.

Seeya'll.
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From: hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Nov. 12 games of the night!!!
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:20:45 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <92317.091816RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>Plenty of top team NHL action goes head to head on Thursday night.  It truly
>fits the definition of great day for hockey!
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>5 Stars (Must See!)
>Calgary at Boston.  Flames roll off to 11-5-2 and are looking good as they play
>their 2nd game in two nights in Boston, who also is playing back to back games.
>Bruins will be hungry for a win after a defeat to their rival, the Canadiens,
                                                                    ^^^^^^^^^
>last night.  Look for a lot of action in this one!
 ^^^^^^^^^^

Ummm.  The Bruins lost to the Sabres, not the Canadiens.  Montreal
played  New Jersey.  :-)


-- 
Valerie Hammerl 	       John Sr. would lift Pat over the boards, grab 
hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu       his hand, and start running around the outside,
V085PWPZ@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU  faster and faster.  "I wanted to learn how to 
get that feeling, and the only way was to learn how to skate."  P. LaFontaine
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher raczka)
Subject: Re: Hotest Goalie-Rookie Sensation
Reply-To: raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher raczka)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 22:26:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.162605.1@husky1.stmarys.ca> gen5061@husky1.stmarys.ca writes:
> Whats up with Felix Potvin?  Hotest goalie in the league, with a record of
> 6-3-1 and a goals against average around 2.4, and a 91.1 save percentage.
> What a wonderful delima Pat Burns has on his hands with Grant Fuhr and his
> new Rookie sensation!!
> 
> Wow is all I can say. 
>
   He is playing so well, that Fuhr is on the block
   and the rumor is to Buffalo

chris 
-- 

		Mephistopheles ... ruthless, sleepless, unsmiling,
                concentration on self or humorous, civilised, sensible
                and adaptable 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard)
Subject: Re: best fighter
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 03:21:01 GMT

In <1992Nov6.222959.14631@shearson.com> mcortes@shearson.com (Mathew Cortes) writes:

>In article GtJ@acsu.buffalo.edu, v075p7mg@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Jonathan G Keller) writes:
>WHO IS THE BEST FIGHTER??

>In the history of the NHL and the WHA there have been many good fighters,
>but there are a couple that really stand out. Dave Schultz was one of the
>meanest most vicious players of all time. He did not feel comfortable if
>he didn't fight and would fight only to kill or mame. In my opinion the best

This is absolute nonsense.  The only thing notable about Schultz is that he
one of the first pure cement-heads.  He had zero hockey ability.  Eddie
Shore is a legend of course but how many of us saw him play?  The two toughest
players I ever saw were John Ferguson and Gordie Howe.

>Now with the steriod freaks (ie. Kordic of the Leafs), each team has their
>own Dave Schultz. Probert was beaten by Link of the Sharks. Does this mean 
>he is a better fighter? NO!! After a long shift, a man cannot fight as well.
>Link may have just stepped on the ice after about a 10 min. break. Knowing
>Probert, he probably just gave it his all for 45sec. and is tired. Hockey
>fighting is an art. Yes an art. The only way to figure out the best fighter

The word "art" can really get abused can't it?  Who defined it for you?  Don
Cherry?  (remember Stan Jonathon?)

>is a tournament, on ice, where they square off with equal rest. I could bet
>who would be the final four though...Rob Ray,(strogest man in NHL),Bob
>Probert (if the match was in the US)...Tie Domi(basic cement-head), and
>Wendel Clark( If he is healthy)...
>What are your thoughts?

I think any of these tough guys would hurt their hands bouncing them off
of your thick skull...

rm

-- 
roger maynard
maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Pens turn back Stars 4-1.
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:39:31 EST
Organization: Penn State University

Sean McEachern pumped in two goals and Ken Wregget played a strong game in
goal as the Penguins knocked off the stars in Minnesota.  Mario Lemieux
scored an empty netter to extend his goal scoring streak to 4 games and 16
out of 17 overall.  The Stars had their chances - they missed several good
scoring opportunities, including two 5 on 3's.  Pittsburgh 12-3-2 returns
home to face the Nordiques on Thursday.  Pens 3 for 6 on the power play?
Something like that.  They're on pace to crush the all time record for
power play goals in a season, set by themselves at 119, I believe.
** Rob **
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: shayne@cs.mcgill.ca (Lydia Mancini)
Subject: Re: POLL results -- greatest moment
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 22:35:27 GMT

In article <farenebt.721014283@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri Farenell ("Droopy")) writes:
>The p0oll question was: what do you think the greatest game in
>hockey history? This is the last posting of the poll so no more
>response will be accepted.
>
>1987 CANADA CUP FINALS, GAME 3 (Canada v Soviet Union)		6.5

Now how can you have half a vote?

>Bri Farenell

-- Lydia
-- 
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From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: U.S. "Dream Team"
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:56:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.124901.2875@mtroyal.ab.ca> caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca writes:
>> SOVIET:
>> 
>> Kamensky    Mogilny        Bure
>>      ????           ???
>>            ???
>>                 
>
>Fedorov instead of Kamensky. Mogilny-Fedorov-Bure was the best junior aged 
>line in the world four years ago. On defence, guys like Malakhov and Zhitnik
>come to mind. I think Kasparaitus is Lithuanian though...In net, Andrei
>Trefilov or Artur Irbe. (Is Irbe Russian?)

Irbe is Latvian...  

>You forgot the Czech team. How about:
>
>Holik   Reichel    Jagr
>   Svoboda    Hamrlik
>         Hasek
>
>I'm sure our Swedish and Finnish friends can come up with a good first line
>for their respective teams....

Michal Pivonka and Vladimir Ruzicka, perhaps?  Petr Nedved can also be a
possibility at center...

===============================================================================
"M. C. Hamrlik: Can't Touch This Lightning."
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Luc Robitaille for Hart!
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Sandis Ozolinsh for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: mpreslar@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Martin Preslar)
Subject: Re: Detroit/Tampa Radio Report
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:21:09 GMT

chill@cbnews.cb.att.com (daniel.a.miller) writes:

>deal is with the Wings though. In my opinion, there are too many first
>line centers on the same team! Let's get rid of Jimmy Carson, and Paul
>Yserbart. Maybe we can pick up a solid defenseman for the two of them.

>- Dan
>  Wings in 92'-93'
>  Da Chill in the ECHL
I agree with the part about getting rid of Carson for a good D-man,
but I don't think getting rid of the teams top winger from last year
(Ysebaert) will go anywhere toward solving the problem.  Perhaps 
putting him back on a line with Federov and Burr like they used last
year would help.  But hey, I only get to see an occasional game down
here in "there are hockey teams other than the Hawks and Blues?" land,
so I'm just happy to be able to watch the Wings Battle the Pens tonight
on ESPN!

GO WINGS!!!!
Marty