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From: ingram@cs.duke.edu (Robert E. Ingram,02N,6606573,9294051)
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
Subject: rumor
Keywords: republicans
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:31:40 GMT
Reply-To: ingram@cs.duke.edu
Followup-To: talk.rumors, alt.politics.kibo,misc.test,alt.exploding.kibo
Organization: Duke University Computer Science

The motto for the Republican convention will be:
	
	"Big Brother is Watching You"

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From: corey.pratt@cccbbs.UUCP (Corey Pratt) 
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
Subject: DAVE HARVEY TALKS ABOUT T
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:53:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Cincinnati Computer Connection BBS - Cincinnati, OH - 513-752-8248
Reply-To: corey.pratt@cccbbs.UUCP (Corey Pratt) 

Since you clame that Flo-Jo took steroids because she won so many gold
medals, then are you also claiming that Carl Lewis must also be on
Steroids?  I think the accusing of people without any evidence at all
other than the decision to stop running anymore is pretty sad.  Sure,
steroids is in the olympics.  It can't be denied.  But stop accusing
without proof.  If that was your idea of "Telling it like it is" then
you need to open your eyes to innocent until proven guilty.
            Corey Pratt
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 20 Aug 1992 23:23:33 CDT
From: CAMPUS CHRONICLE <U58499@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
Subject: Re: Woody Allen loves his children
 <1992Aug18.161957.25673@magnus.acs.ohio
 <1992Aug18.220237.327@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>

In article <1992Aug18.220237.327@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
bdaher@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Brian D Daher) says:

>
>The stuff I've been reading about Woody in the news is just too juicy.  How's
>this for ya:
>
>Woody loves his children so much he just may marry one of them.
Louie warms his Chicken McNuggets so Marie may carry hens.











Newsgroups: talk.rumors
From: burgoyne@highlite.uucp (J. Robert Burgoyne)
Subject: Re: rumor
Organization: Gotham Communications Research
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:03:10 GMT

ingram@cs.duke.edu (Robert E. Ingram,02N,6606573,9294051) writes:
: The motto for the Republican convention will be:
: 	
: 	"Big Brother is Watching You"

And the rumor that the Clinton campaign is trying in vain to hide is:

	"Big Brother Knows How to Spend Your Money Better Than You Do"

Robert
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:03:51 EDT
From: Danny D! <DED110@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
Subject: Hey John!!!

     Some guy named John called my office to chat about an article I posted
called "Olympic Horsesh*t" and to chat w/ me about my knee.  Unfortunately
I haven't learned how to get the answering machine to save my messages when
I get them over the phone.  Ooops!  So John, from South Carolina somewhere,
this is my E-mail address (which should STAY operational now)....

"Realize I don't wanna be a miser"
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Home: (814) 587-3080
J.R.C. Office: (814) 898-6297  (Call collect, Penn State's paying!)
Organization: Doctoral student, History, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:53:14 -0400 
From: John Thomas <jt29+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Bush Affair(s)

Has anyone actually seen the book that claims George Bush had a "foreign affair"?  Who is the writer and does she/he have any credibility?
Thanx.
john t.
Cmu
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
From: ross@kaos.ingr.com (Ross Erickson)
Subject: Re: American athletes on steroids!
Reply-To: ross@kaos.b11.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1992 13:54:32 GMT

>
>Funny you should say that, 'cause America _does_ have the worst steroids 
>record and the slackest testing procedure. Sometimes I think that's the only
>reason why you people do so well.
>
You're not even worth it.
>
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Newsgroups: talk.rumors
From: bdaher@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Brian D Daher)
Subject: Woody Allen loves his children
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:02:37 GMT


The stuff I've been reading about Woody in the news is just too juicy.  How's 
this for ya:

Woody loves his children so much he just may marry one of them.

It reminds me of the line from _Vacation._  

From one teenage girl to another:
"You've french kissed?"
"Sure, who hasn't?"
"Well who taught you?"
"Daddy."

--
Call me sick but don't call me late for dinner.
bdaher@magnus
From: dking@raul.nas.nasa.gov (Dan King)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: control
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:14:02 GMT
Reply-To: dking@raul.nas.nasa.gov (Dan King)
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation Facility NASA

In article <1992Aug20.134731.522@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gjh@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Galen J. Hekhuis) writes:

[Lots of way cool stuff that Galen writes so well]

My only comment Galen is:
"Well, you aren't free to murder
someone, are you?"

Dan King
From: bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com (J H Woodyatt)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Who takes care of the unwanted mother?
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:03:14 GMT
Reply-To: bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com
Organization: Abiogenesis 4 Less

In article <1992Aug13.234546.6461@csus.edu>, chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney) writes:
# 
# As you can tell, while the flamewar articles receive a general 30
# minute to 1 hour response, this kind of post receives none in over 3
# days. 
# 
# Pro-lifers might want to take note that the same group who is trying
# to flame me (and unsuccessfully since I'm prepared to deal with them), 
# had also been responsible for blowing Siren (one of their most
# intellegent allies) off the net with their negativity, and is the same
# group which is ignoring this article. 
# 
# That's because this article fails to meet their Steve Hall Dennis
# Chaney Numbskull Raving Lunatic propaganda requirements, and they
# can't twist this post into a flamefest. So they don't respond.  

And if you would just make a point of writing *all* of your posts in a
similar vein you wouldn't have to read my mewlings about how you're a
deranged, low-minded bigot.

What were you expecting?

-- 
J H Woodyatt (a.k.a. Dr. Strychnine)
Space Systems/Loral

"I am fully prepared to anoint myself with the rancid fat of a feral
sow and run naked through town while the villagers throw pot-stickers
at me."
                                                     -- Michael Rigler
From: cook@sunloan.crd.ge.com (Cathi Cook)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Observations
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:56:42 GMT
Reply-To: cook@sunloan.crd.ge.com (Cathi Cook)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

In article <1992Aug19.210947.26366@spdc.ti.com>,
serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Serafin) writes:

|>  If you 
|>are not willing or able to take a pregnancy to term then maybe you should 
|>not be having sex.

My husband will be thrilled to hear this.

Perhaps YOU'd like to explain to him why you say he must live in a 
celibate marriage because YOU have an opinion on abortion.  
     
                          -rocker
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
Subject: Another good reason to vote for Bush ... NOT!
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 22:00:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.130303.24354@ncsu.edu> dsh@odin.ece.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
>>>rone@girtab.usc.edu (Ron Echeverri) writes:
>
>>>> HOUSTON (UPI) -- A Republican platform subcommittee overwhelming-
>>>> ly passed a plank calling for a constitutional amendment banning all abor-
>>>> tions, endorsing the policy of President Bush. The subcommittee on indivi-
>>>> dual rights, good homes and safe streets voted 17-3 Monday to approve the
>>>> plank, which is essentially the same as contained in the 1988 and 1984
>>>> platforms.

>But none of them that I've read have suggested that President Bush supports 
>banning "all" abortions, unlike the story above.  Bush supports exceptions 
>for rape and incest, and for the life of the mother.  That's why I believe
>the story was concocted by Ron Echeverri. 

President Bush has specifically said that he supports allowing abortion for
victims of rape and incest and to save the life of the mother.

The Republican platform contains a plank that calls for a ban on ALL
abortions through an amendment to the US Constitution.

These two statements do not conflict and are both true.

The UPI story is slightly in error in implying that President Shrub
supports banning *all* abortions, but that's nothing new.  The press
frequently make minor errors in reporting news.

Sorry, Dougie, you lose.

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)

Vitamin C deficiency is apauling
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Subject: Re: Another good reason to vote for Bush
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:09:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.153220.15332@ncsu.edu> dsh@odin.ece.ncsu.edu ( ) writes:
>In article <16drfkINNbst@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com> regard@sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:
>
>> What happens to the woman's rights if we decide to award rights to a fetus?
>
>All human females would have the right to life. 

What happens if the "human female" is not viable outside of the mother?



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Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig)
Subject: Re: Only God Can Help Us!
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 18:35:30 GMT
Organization: Starfleet Headquarters: San Francisco

In article <1992Aug21.144112.11237@medtron.medtronic.com> ck10322@china.medtronic.com (Cameron Kaszas) writes:
>I am worried that
>I have somehow been led astray since stumbling onto this network,
>and being exposed to more secular/liberal/radical thought?  

I wouldn't call it 'being led astray'.  You're being confronted with
reasoning that you've never explored before, and points of view that
the people you usually associate with tend to avoid.  You're only 'led
astray' if you blindly follow whatever reasoning sounds good at the
moment.  What you _should_ do is examine what you read here, be a
skeptic, decide if the views you read in this newsgroup are or aren't
what you yourself believe, and decide how your heart tells you to
respond to the issues here.

>Can any of you pro-life Christians give me some reasons why I
>should be politically pro-life?  I believe God does want
>us out there doing everything we can to let people know that he created
>the z/e/f for a reason, and he will take care of everyone involved,
>and that his will is that every z/e/f to be 
>carried to term. So you don't have to argue along those lines.
>I guess my main question is how does he want us to do this?  Should
>it be in our political agenda? 

Let me just remind you that this is the United States -- we enjoy
separation of church and state.  Not everybody in this great land is
Christian (I know I'm not).  I wouldn't want you telling me how I
should run my life any more than you would want me telling you how to
run your life; while I understand how much pro-life means to you, I'd
suggest that it's a religious position _only_ and has no place in
politics.

     << Brian >>

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From: andy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Some call me...Drew)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Observations
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:27:59 GMT
     <1992Aug19.210947.26366@spdc.ti.com>
Organization: Leapers For a Better Yesterday

serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Serafin) writes:
>How can you call a pregnancy that occured as a direct result of the 
>animal desires of a man and a woman "forced pregnancy".  

As opposed, of course, to a pregnancy resulting from cool, rational
discussion.  Here's a penny--go buy a clue.

>When will YOU 
>understand that YOU must take responsibility for YOUR actions.  If you 
>are not willing or able to take a pregnancy to term then maybe you should 
>not be having sex.  

Reality check: I'm male.  I'm not taking a pregnancy anywhere.  My (alas)
hypothetical partner, however, would under your scenario be forced into
continuing a pregnancy she might or might not want to take to term.  If
I support a law telling her she has no choice in the matter, then I'm not
allowing her to take responsibility for her own actions, I'm taking that
burden on myself.

I'm perfectly willing to take responsibility for my own actions, but I'm
not willing to take responsibility for the actions of others, nor am I
willing to force someone else to take responsibility for my actions.  That,
and that alone, is why I am pro-choice.

-- 
"Me and you, a two man crew, 
 side by side we are united,
 we will never be divided...."

                                                  Au revoir, mon cherie.

Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney)
Subject: Re: The Nurturing Network 1-800-TNN-4MOM
Organization: California State University: Sacramento
Distribution: world 
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 01:49:10 GMT

In article <5688@catnip.berkeley.ca.us> tanj@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (Ren and Stimpy's Love Child) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.224500.25686@noao.edu> forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach) writes:
>>But do not ever expect an organization devoted to providing
>>alternatives to abortion to _ever_ aid someone in _obtaining_ an abortion.
>>That's just garbage.
>
>Which is why everyone should go to Planned Parenthood, which provides pre-natal
>care as well as abortion (as well as a host of gynecological services) :-).

Funny, how Planned Parenthood supplies, besides birth control,
absolutely nothing that would reduce the number of abortion customers
they can get. Such as:

1) Crisis pregnancy assistance:
 - Planned Parenthood has a negative (read: black hole) record on
   providing favorable conditions for women to carry babies to term
   if it proves the least bit convenient.
2) Housing:
 - Poor, money-strapped pro-lifers do more to provide pre and
   postnatal support (including homes) for pregnant women. PP does
   no such thing. 
3) Alternatives: 
 - Planned Parenthood? Alternatives to abortion? Do the letters
   N, O, T and ! (guess which order) have any meaning?  
4) Sex Education: 
 - After the talk about birth control, does PP ever tell the students
   that abstinence is as EQUAL an option as sex? Once again, the
   letters N, O, T and ! (and !!!) bear great resemblance here, to the
   answer to this question. (And no, PatricKKK Harumphrey, I did not
   assert abstinence > sex. I said that according to PP, abstinence
   != option worth teaching.) 

The list goes on and on. 

>--Teddi
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Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: bc744@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Ira Kaufman)
Subject: THIRD TRIMESTER ABORTIONS
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 16:06:30 GMT


   The figure on third trimester abortions is that they represent
less than one in one thousand abortions performed in America.  It
is also a fact that practically ALL of them are medically needed.
To introduce an aspect of abortion that represents such numerical
insignificance is deliberate misrepresentation.  It suggests some
notions that are not true.  The first is that these abortions are
sigificant in number.  And it also implies that the anti-abortion
zealots who raise this question object to the extreme situations,
and not ALL abortions in general.  This trird trimester crap does
not have anything to do with a woman's right to choose.  Maybe we
can convince the anti-abortion zealots that this "issue" is phony
and completely ineffective.  By constantly waging this "conflict"
they are insulting the intelligence of everyone they address.  It
should be obvious by what is happening in the Republican National
Convention, that even the right in this country is not buying the
fundamentalist crap anymore.  The right in this country is slowly
becoming less reactionary, and more principled.  For this reason,
the third trimester "issue" won't work even on Republicans.  Yes,
folks.  There IS light at the end of the tunnel!
-- 
   "We're going to have the best educated American people in the
world."                              Dan Quayle - Sept. 21, 1988
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: bc744@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Ira Kaufman)
Subject: Re: LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL!
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 22:24:33 GMT


   No, Dougie.  It's not bullshit.  As you pointed out, Americans
in large numbers (like the MAJORITY!) support CHOICE, and not, as
you have mislabeled, abortion.  And that is what the FOCA is.  In
case you had not read the FOCA, it states that abortion shall not
be restricted...Hey, Doug!  Stop moving your lips!  It just slows
down your reading!...PRIOR TO FETAL VIABILITY!  Contrary to those
false claims by the anti-abortion movement, the FOCA will not ban
states from limiting late term abortions, prohibiting minors from
having abortions, or provide for one nickel of government monies.
This is precisely what the MAJORITY of Republicans support.  This
abortion on demand mantra of yours obscures the truth, exactly as
does everything else you utter.  
-- 
   "We're going to have the best educated American people in the
world."                              Dan Quayle - Sept. 21, 1988
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: lefty@apple.com (Lefty)
Subject: Re: Pro-Life? (was Re: Hypocrites?)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:11:34 GMT
Organization: Our Lady of Heavy Artillery

In article <1992Aug11.104016.8268@hemlock.cray.com>, mon@cray.com (Muriel
Nelson) wrote:
> 
> Tell me, though: do you think having sex is more like driving a car, or
> pressing a red button?  They used to make Plymouths with push-button
> automatic gear shifts.  I wonder if the buttons were red on a red 
> Plymouth...

Actually, the buttons were chromed, regardless of the color of the car.

Sex is better.  Trust me on this.

--
Lefty (lefty@apple.com)
C:.M:.C:., D:.O:.D:.
Xref: sparky talk.abortion:33007 alt.abortion.inequity:3223
From: kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.abortion.inequity
Subject: Re: Observations
Date: 23 Aug 92 02:45:39 GMT
Organization: Who, me???

In article <lefty-210892155346@lefty.apple.com> lefty@apple.com (Lefty) writes:
> 
>>  Just because I would allow abortions in cases of incest and rape does 
>>  not mean that I do not believe a fetus has a right-to-life.  I do believe
>>  that a woman should not be forced go through a pregnancy caused my 
>>  unwanted, illegal or immoral actions from a man.
>
>How about unwanted, illegal or immoral actions from a fetus?

Specious argument alert! Abortion is not legally premised as "punishment"
of fetuses. For one thing, in order to make that schema work, one of the 
first things we'd have to do is declare them to be persons. I think most
pro-choicers would have an eensy-weensy little problem with that legal
technicality, don't you think, Lefty?

Then there's the messy business of the right to face one's accusers, the
right of appeal, the right of habeas corpus, etc. etc. All in all, putting
fetuses on trial tends to be rather impractical...

								- Kevin
Newsgroups: talk.abortion,talk.religion.misc
From: gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon Storga)
Subject: Re: What is Sex to God?
Keywords: Luke 14:26
Organization: Stay Awake Software
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 17:32:29 GMT

<BszqtG.MrD@nntp-sc.Intel.COM> pharvey@mipos3.intel.com (Paul Harvey) said:
>HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
><After some effort and confusion, I've finally found the Bible verses Gordon
><was talking about where Jesus commands his disciples to hate their parents.
><I'll type in the verse and context.
><Oops.  Forgot to add the version.  It's the King James.  Apologies for
><forgetting that first time around.
>
>It is Luke 14:26, the smoking gun of Christianity. The best explanation for
>these words from Jesus that I have heard so far is that the good Christian
>should stratch out the words HATE and replace them with LOVE LESS. 

WHAT!  Loyal Christians are encouraging others to REWRITE the bible!?
Blasphemy!


Gordon
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From: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ron Bense)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: There's every reason to vote for Bush
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:04:56 GMT
Reply-To: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ronald Bense)
Followup-To: talk.abortion
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In talk.abortion, dsh@odin.ece.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:

>It does answer the question if one believes that all human females
>should possess the right to life.

This sounds like a waffle, but not as bad as "pro-life" Bush. When asked
about whether he would allow his hypothetical granddaughter to decide
on abortion, he said "Well, who else's choice could it be?" Wonderful
consistency, really makes him credible. I wonder if he even realizes
that this is the core of the pro-choice belief?


Ron

Potassium Benzoate included as a preserver.
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com (J H Woodyatt)
Subject: A compliment for Doug Holtsinger
Reply-To: bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com
Organization: Abiogenesis 4 Less
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 04:53:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.210114.29012@ncsu.edu>, dsh@zeus.csc.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
# Not at all, I was pointing out that the original poster was
# using euphemisms to describe abortion procedures.  An abortion
# kills a human being, and many pro-choicers don't seem willing
# to confront that fact.

With the subtle implication being that those pro-choicers who are
willing to confront that `fact' and remain pro-choice have a cavalier,
crunch-all-you-want-we'll-make-more answer to all the questions of
morality surrounding the abortion issue.

You're a savage bastard, Holtsinger.  I like that in an adversary.

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