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From:         AHARE@CLEMSON.BITNET
Subject:      TestPAC

We will begin evaluating TestPAC soon, and I would like to
know the kinds of strategies used by other sites.  What kinds of
things did you look for or wish you had looked for?  I would
appreciate any help.  If you send responses directly to me, I will
post for the list.
Ann Hare                     803-229-8365 (voice)
Lander University            803-229-8816 (fax)
Greenwood, SC  29649         AHARE@CLEMSON.BITNET
                             AHARE@CLEMSON.CLEMSON.EDU
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From:         John Rutherford/Faculty Computing Center
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Subject:      RE: Softterm replacements

If you are looking for terminal software to be used for access to
the OPAC or staff, (not for use with PC backup) Kermit works fine.
It is available for most cpu's, though the PC version has the best
features.

The latest non-beta version of kermit is 3.11 (I think), and is
available from numerous anonymous sites. It supports vt100-vt320
terminals (and others), and may be used with public domain tcp/ip
software to access tcp and lat networks directly. You can purchase
Kermit from Digital Press also. The manual is written by
Christine Giannone, and includes the software. It is well worth
the 30.00.

Many universities use Kermit and have developed scripts to provide
extended key support etc.

John Rutherford
Cent. Conn. State Univ.
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From:         "NAME \"KAY TAVILL\"" <TAVILLK@VMS.CSD.MU.EDU>
Subject:      SUBSCRIBE

Subscribe Kay Tavill
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:07:33 +1100
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From:         "Giles Martin, University of Newcastle,
              N.S.W." <ULGSM@CC.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: electronic shelflist

Since we are about to close our card shelf list and go to the call number g
index in INNOPAC to create call numbers, we would also be interested in the
experiences of others that have gone to electronic shelf-lists.

        #####     ##
       ######    ####      Giles Martin
     #################     University of Newcastle Libraries
   ####################    New South Wales, Australia
   ###################*    E-mail: ulgsm@cc.newcastle.edu.au
   ###################     Phone: (049) 215 828  (Australia)
    #####      ## ###         +61 49 215 828 (International)
                           Fax:   (049) 215 833  (Australia)
                   ##         +61 49 215 833 (International)
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:16:32 EST
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From:         ZANTON@MAINE.BITNET
Subject:      III tour (MLA)

FR: T. Zantow, Chair, INNOPAC Music Users Group
RE: Tour of Innovative Interfaces, Inc. facilities

III has graciously offered a tour of their facilities in
Berkeley Wednesday afternoon, February 3, 3-6 pm.  Those
interested in the tour should contact me (if you have not
already done so) at: <ZANTON@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> -or-
<TOMZ@URSUS1.URSUS.MAINE.EDU>
Indicate whether you would prefer to take the bus or
the BART system.  The bus will leave the Westin St.
Francis at 3 pm: those arriving later, or who cannot make
the 3 pm pick-up, may take the BART: III will pick you up
from the Berkeley stop.

Please do not forget the regular IMUG meeting on Thursday
evening!

Below are the directions for those who will take the BART
to III:

Leave the hotel (St. Francis) and walk downhill on Powell
to Market Street.  Go down into the Market Street
station.  You will want to take the Richmond BART train
(it goes towards Richmond in the East bay).  Stay on the
train for about 20 minutes.  You will want to get off at
the "North Berkeley" stop.  (There are three stops in
Berkeley, this is the third). When you get there come up
into the station and dial our office (644-3600).  We will
send someone over to pick you up.  It is about a 7 minute
drive from our offices.  If there is enough room on the
bus for everyone, we will drive them all back to the city
in the BUS.  If we fill the bus, and have extras come on
BART, it is still a short ride back to the City.  BART is
a great way to travel, very clean, safe, and very popular
out here.   For the folks that will come on the bus, we
will be picking them up from the St. Francis front door
at 3 p.m. and will bring them back to the City after the
tour and reception.  They should be back between 6 and
6:30 p.m.  (depending upon traffic).
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:50:00 PST
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From:         Nunn Craig <NunnC@OIT.OSSHE.EDU>
Subject:      Softterm replacements

I'm looking for a cheap (free) replacement for Softterm, the terminal
emulation software that III sells. Is anyone using a different one? How well
does it work? Suggests? Comments?

Thanks -

Craig Nunn Oregon
Institute of Technology

nunnc@oit.osshe.edu
voice (503) 885-1880
fax   (503) 885-1777
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:12:51 -0500
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From:         "TERRY METZ, LIBRARY #421, X4530" <TEMETZ@CARLETON.EDU>
Subject:      Request for Info/Permission to Telnet to Your OPAC

Our library is considering purchasing an III system.  Are there any 4-year
liberal arts college libraries out there using III that would be willing to
share their telent addresses so that we could take a test drive via the
Internet?  Thanks!


********************************************************************************
Terry Metz, Systems Support & Instr Libn    Voice:  507/663-4530
Carleton College Library                      Fax:  507/663-4204
One North College Street                 Internet:  TeMetz@Carleton.edu
Northfield, MN  55057-4098                 BITNET:  TeMetz%Carleton.edu@interbit
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:59:13 -0800
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From:         montgomery@SOSC1.SOSC.OSSHE.EDU
Subject:      130 Uniform titles

//
database search dd=rules
//rules dd *
search 130 or (uniform title) or (uniform titles) and not 240 in INNOPAC
index
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 09:14:00 EST
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From:         BROTHB@IRISHMVS.BITNET
Subject:      Tricky orders

I would like some advise from all you experts on setting up orders.
We have a lot of different standing orders and I'm not sure what
to do with them.  Each different type will probably require
different procedures.
**
First we have package plans with people such as the American Bar
Association and Brookings Institute.  We have ONE order with them
and they send us all sorts of monographic and serial titles.  We
create bib records for each individual title, but what should we
do for the order record?  We considered either setting up a dummy
bib just saying Brookings package plan and pay on that, or attaching
an order record to each bib and paying on that.  The problem with
an order on each bib is the difficulty in identifying that title as
a package plan item and giving a false count on the number of orders
placed.  But then the problem with no order attached to a bib record
is still difficulty in identifying that title as a package plan or
tracking its order source.
**
What about new editions of titles that are sent automatically
because we have a standing order for the previous edition?  Also
serial title changes.  Set up a new order record to attach to the
new bib and close out the old order?  This again gives a false
count of orders placed and what do you put in the order date (the
original order date or the date of the new ed).  Or transfer the
order to the new bib, thereby losing the order info on the old bib?
**
Finally, what about standing orders for named series?  Bib records
only for each title or bib and order records?
**
I would appreciate some ideas, both pros and cons, of what other
libraries do.  Or is my problem that I'm just making the whole
thing too complicated (a nasty habit of mine)?  Thanks in advance
for any input!!!
**
Beckie Brothers
Serials Coordinator
Notre Dame Law Library
(219) 631-8113
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:55:20 -0500
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From:         Szu-chia Scarlett Lo <LO@UDAVXB.OCA.UDAYTON.EDU>
Subject:      Printer for Innopac

Hi everyone,
      We are looking for the printers for our future acquisition/serial and
circulations sub-systems.  According to Innopac user manual, Innopac supports
only Okidata 393 for the printing of all reports and forms.  Can anybody tell
me that is there any specific functions need to do the printing work on
Innopac and what are those functions?  Besides Okidata 393, is there any other
printer you suggest?
      Thanks for your help in advance.  You can send mail to me directly.
My e-mail address is lo@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu.  Thanks again.

p.s. we have ThinkJet printer for our current circulation system.

Szu-chia Scarlett Lo
U. of Dayton, Law library
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 10:23:24 -0400
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From:         CHARPER@COLGATEU.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Request for Info/Permission to Telnet to Your OPAC

Colgate's catalog is library.colgate.edu (149.43.1.3).  Login as library.
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:52:05 -0600
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From:         Brian Striman <brians@UNLLIB.UNL.EDU>
Subject:      INNOPAC LAW users group survey mailed out 1-25-93.

On Monday, Jan. 25th, 87 Innovative law libraries users group
questionnaires and information updates were mailed off.  It's a long
document, as far as questionnaires go (about 15 pages),
but I thought it was important to get law library users' feedback on a
number of issues.   I also sent a copy to Anita Cook, Chair of
the IUG (Innovative Users Group) and to Jamie Hurly at Innovative, since I
feel it's crucial that WE keep Innovative informed about our activities.

I hope you all fill them out and return the various parts to their
destinations by deadline times.  If you do not get one by Feb. 1st REALLY
DO CONTACT ME.  I've made extras.  I addressed the envelopes with contact
names and they may no longer be accurate, so if you consider yourself to
be the library's contact person for Innovative user group things, and
*don't* get the questionnaire in a week, ask around your library.

There's alot of information on the Boston activities and I've put a
schedule sheet in there with times and events so you all know what's
coming up.

 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Brian D. Striman, Chair ILUG                   Head of Technical Services
 U. of Nebraska-Lincoln                         Schmid Law Library
 Internet: brians@unllib.unl.edu                402-472-8286
 Bitnet:   brians%unllib@unlvax1.bitnet         fax: 402-472-5185
 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:28:06 -0700
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From:         Barbara Valentine <bvalen@LINFIELD.EDU>
Subject:      Setup key on Wyse 160

Do any of you have the Wyse 160 terminals provided by III?  If so, you
must also have the setup key in the upper right hand corner which allows
access to terminal setup info with a simple stroke of the finger. (Other
Wyse setups require at least a shift+stroke to access.)  We have covered
the setup key so there is no seemingly intentional intrusion to the setup
based on curiosity, however, occasionally a terminal has been put out of
whack with what I fear is unintentional intrusion, e.g. hitting the key by
mistake, then getting lost in setup.  Has anyone experienced this
particular anomaly with the Wyse 160s and found a reasonable solution to
it?  Also, for those of you yet to purchase Wyse 160, you might be
forewarned.

**********************
Barbara Valentine
Reference and Systems Librarian
Linfield College
McMinnville OR  97128
bvalen@linfield.edu
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 08:59:20 PST
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From:         Naomi Kerze <FNVK@LMUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      electronic shelflist

This is in response to questions raised by Anita Ortman and Giles Martin
regarding electronic shelflisting on Innovative.

Here at Loyola Marymount, we discontinued filing in the shelf list the
day we loaded our system in late July, 1990.  We also ceased filing
cards in the public catalog.  From that time forward, we have transferred
records directly from OCLC into our Innovative system.  We identified
certain classes of material for which the system records are incomplete,
and pulled the public catalog cards for everything else, leaving a small
remainder of the card file which requires conversion.  We also discarded
most of the paper shelf list.  Again, we had to save cards for areas which
are not fully converted.  Also, in our conversion we were only able to
create one smart item per title, so that multi-copy or multi-volume titles
do not have accurate item records.  Therefore, we saved all shelf list
cards on which item information -- or anything else -- had been hand-
written.  Anything that was machine-printed would be available online, at
least for the cataloger's eyes.  We refer to the paper files as we continue
to convert information, and we pull and discard cards as we go along.  We
have never missed a card that has been pulled, and the visible shrinking
of the files inspires us.

We record call numbers in the bibliographic record, and volume and copy
information in the item record.  We only use the call number field in an
item record to override the bib call number in the rare instance that
two locations are using different numbers, or when the bib call number
includes "vol. 2A-2B", and we want to distinguish one volume from the other
at the item level.  We use a lot of LC call numbers from OCLC without
review, but for any non-LC record, we do a call number search on our
Innovative system to be sure that it falls into place.  Works wonderfully.
No regrets.

+------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Naomi V. Kerze                                                   |
| Head Cataloging Librarian                                        |
| Loyola Marymount University               phone: (310) 338-7685  |
| 7101 W. 80th Street                       fax:   (310) 338-4366  |
| Los Angeles, CA 90045-2699                BITNET:  fnvk@lmuacad  |
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:48:00 EST
From:         Scott Brooks <SBROOKS@PSUHMC.BITNET>
Subject:      Translate Question

I have a CMS file with a 5 byte field in each record (columns 23-27) which
was originally created in cobol as a PIC S9(8) COMP-3.  I'd like to
write a Pipes filter to translate this field to a readable format.
Example:  in the first record this field has the value X'001075667D' (5 bytes);
I'd like to wind up with 001075667 in character (8 bytes).

Any help appreciated,

Scott



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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:02:44 CST
From:         Rick Troth <TROTH@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      that FULLSCR problem

        We recently went to ESA 1.1 and got CMS 8 with it's own PIPE.
I now sometimes get that nasty error from FULLSCR NOREAD in non-370
v-machines.   Not always,  though.   It turns out that on my sweet
3179 G  (which I had to fight Schafer for)  I get my Gopher updates
and *no* error messages.   In the olde PRPQ PIPE,  I'd get nothing
in an XA/ESA/XC machine,  no error,  but no update messages either.

        So it looks like *something* is better about CONSOLE in CMS 8.
Though it's still not quite there.   Perhaps the problem is truly
incorrect behaviour from the 7171  (and some flavors of TN3270).

        Thought y'all might like to know.

Stop BASIC before it stops you.   -- Dijkstra
Stop UNIX before it stops you.   -- Troth

Rick Troth <troth@rice.edu>, Rice University, Information Systems
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From:         "Steven P. Roder" <TKSSTEVE@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU>
Subject:      DEBLOCK on a 1 byte count

What?  No ideas?  No hints?  No tips?  Is this too easy?  Too difficult.


Steve Roder
(tkssteve@ubvm.bitnet | tkssteve@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu | (716)645-3564
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Anyone have a filter that works exactly like DEBLOCK CMS, except that the
>count field is one byte, rather than 2 ?  A multistream pipe would do
>just fine too.  If not, guess I'll have to plunge deeper, so any tips
>would be welcome too.
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:23:32 EST
From:         Scott Brooks <SBROOKS@PSUHMC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: XI REXX

Thank you!

On Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:35:33 LCL John P. Hartmann said:
> RE: XI REXX
>
> It is a trivial program.
>
>     j.                                                john@vnet.ibm.com
>+=================================================== Beginning of XI REXX
>/* Xedit insert                                                      */
>/*                                John Hartmann 30 Jan 1989 18:35:31 */
>signal on novalue
>address xedit 'extr, linend'
>If linend.1='ON'
>   Then xlate='|xlate *-*' c2x(linend.2) 'blank'
>   else xlate=''
>
>'callpipe (end \)',
>   '*:',
>   '|f: fanout',
>   '|pad 1',
>     xlate,
>   '|change ,,i ,',
>   '|subcom xedit',
>   '\f:',
>   '|*:'
>
>exit RC
>-========================================================= End of XI REXX
>* XI       REXX     C2 V         71         19          1  1/12/92 17:14:42
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:41:52 LCL
From:         "John P. Hartmann" <PIPER@VNET.BITNET>
Subject:      Packed data.

 RE: Packed data.

 I can do this

   pipe strliteral x001075667d | spec 1-* c2p | xi
  >-001075667.
   pipe strliteral x001075667d | spec 1-* c2p(2) | xi
  >-0010756.67

 So I don't do what you ask for (I also give the sign).

 Now, I hope *you* will be able to do this too some time in the future.

 For now, you can find packed conversion done with SPEC and XLATE in
 SQLSELECT REXX.  It is touched on in SL26-0018-1 in the chapter
 about using SQL.

     j.                                                john@vnet.ibm.com
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 10:37:51 EST
From:         Scott Brooks <SBROOKS@PSUHMC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Packed data.

Thanks for the responses!  I was able to get by my problem by using
a suggestion from Melvin to use C2X and XLATE:

SPEC 1-22 1  23-27 C2X NEXTWORD 28-* NEXTWORD | XLATE 33-33 D -

So thanks John for the ideas below john to use SPEC and XLATE.  I tried
strliteral, c2p, and xi but all of these were not valid for me in Pipes.
I'll read up on the chapter you suggested when I get some time -
hopefully it will will in the gaps for me on strliteral, c2p, and xi.

Scott

On Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:41:52 LCL John P. Hartmann said:
> RE: Packed data.
>
> I can do this
>
>   pipe strliteral x001075667d | spec 1-* c2p | xi
>  >-001075667.
>   pipe strliteral x001075667d | spec 1-* c2p(2) | xi
>  >-0010756.67
>
> So I don't do what you ask for (I also give the sign).
>
> Now, I hope *you* will be able to do this too some time in the future.
>
> For now, you can find packed conversion done with SPEC and XLATE in
> SQLSELECT REXX.  It is touched on in SL26-0018-1 in the chapter
> about using SQL.
>
>     j.                                                john@vnet.ibm.com
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:35:33 LCL
From:         "John P. Hartmann" <PIPER@VNET.BITNET>
Subject:      XI REXX

 RE: XI REXX

 It is a trivial program.

     j.                                                john@vnet.ibm.com
+=================================================== Beginning of XI REXX
/* Xedit insert                                                      */
/*                                John Hartmann 30 Jan 1989 18:35:31 */
signal on novalue
address xedit 'extr, linend'
If linend.1='ON'
   Then xlate='|xlate *-*' c2x(linend.2) 'blank'
   else xlate=''

'callpipe (end \)',
   '*:',
   '|f: fanout',
   '|pad 1',
     xlate,
   '|change ,,i ,',
   '|subcom xedit',
   '\f:',
   '|*:'

exit RC
-========================================================= End of XI REXX
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