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From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Mindless GitPosters
Date: 14 Oct 92 12:22:05 GMT
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper

minch@lotka.stanford.edu (Eric Minch) writes:
] 
] Hoyt actually was in intelligence; Clancy is just a long-time wannabe.  
] Hoyt has a sense of humor, quirky politics, and an outrageous  
] imagination; Clancy seems ignorant of the concept. Sure, Clancy is a  
] good read, but Hoyt makes you go "Yesssss <ObArmPumpingMotion>!"


We Know that Public Education has Gone Completely into the TOILET.

But Please do Not Trumpet Your BogRolledBrilliance.....


1. Yes Clancy Developed all of his Data independent of
access to Classified Data. { a point clarified by a
few minor investigations - and clearly noted in
'Proceedings' - You're the College Boy Yahoo look it up!}

2. Those Persons who are NOT at Liberty to discuss 
matters which are the Proprietary Knowledge of 
Former Employers who May or May NOT have existed
in any of the Various Places they Never Were at 
those Times do NOT read trivia for amusement.

3. Those Persons, as stipulated above, are impressed with
what an 'open source' anaylst like clancy has been able
to deal with, without worrying about compromise of 
National Secuirty Assets.

Now thank You very Much, and Go HOME!

ciao
drieux


ps: You try and Watch 'hunt for Red Oktober' with 
the PacAswFor and you will understand....


Pps: Worse Yet Try and Watch It With Mindless Gits who
haven't the Foggiest Idea which of the Five Major 
Technical Hits Were SO FUCKING ANNOYING!!!!!


PPSS: Worse Yet Watch it with another BlackProjectPerson
amidst a Sea of Wallowing DraftBaitMindlessGit and Argue
in Clear Tones about Why the Other Sod Useless Fuck has
Four of those Five Tech Hits Totally Up the Gutter Wrong
without Revealing Sourcing Data or WNTEL specifications.


obPeeve: we are not at liberty to discuss the live
orginal cast party for the off off off off broadway
production which ran a somewhat limited 'run' as it were.


-- 
Modern Day Problems:
In any case, don't give up, just type slower :-).
Chimo
Bob.
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From: gpriores@oracle.com (gordon prioreschi)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.politics.correct,talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Esoteric Skinhead O'Connor (Was stuff about Mac D's)
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:45:24 GMT
	<1992Oct6.111639.7977@ac.dal.ca> <1asgoaINNfkl@bigboote.WPI.EDU>
Organization: Oracle Corp., Belmont CA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1asgoaINNfkl@bigboote.WPI.EDU> padutton@wpi.WPI.EDU (Peter Alan Dutton) writes:
> Peeve: "Stars" who look at their "stardom" as a license to be experienced
> political pundits.

Yah. It always cracked me up to see people listening raptly as a rock
star made snide comments about having an actor in the white house.

                                    Cordially,

                                         -g
From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Japanese Tourists ate my building.
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:36:06 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <mhart.719148975@blackjack> mhart@blackjack.dt.navy.mil (Michael Hart) writes:

>Hmm.  An interesting offer.  This isn't the same .debbie of 
>".debbie does .dallas" fame, is it?
>
>I knew a Debbi once.  Loved her.  Little bitch broke my heart.
>
>She had double jointed hips, too.

You know, among Women Who Have Really Been Shits to Me, the name
"Debbie" is overrepresented. I wonder why? 

None of them had double jointed hips. Are double jointed hips as
interesting as I suspect they could be, Michael?

ObPeeve: Not being certain I got the attributions right.\
ObAntipeeve: Not giving a damn

Regards, Charles
-- 
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
From: cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Possible Conspiracy Uncovered
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:15:01 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: A Suffusion of Yellow

geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes: 
| 
| How do expressions like this get started, figures of speech that have no
| basis in reality?  Who comes up with them, and why?  Is it a conspiracy
| to drive the human race slowly nuts?  Are the Reptoids involved?
| 
| Okay, who has the blue powder?  I bet the Air Force has some, locked in
| a tightly-guarded hangar somewhere along with those frozen alien bodies.

"Selling like hotcakes".  Have you ever seen a line of people clamoring
for hotcakes?

Peeve: In these parts, the color that Geoff mentions is called "Carolina
Blue" because UNC's school color is a poofy, pastel blue.

!Peeve: The two biggest church-based school in this area (Duke: Methodist,
and Wake Forest: Baptist (I think)) have as their mascots the "Blue
Devils" and the "Demon Deacons" respectively.  I find that mildly amusing.

+--------------------------------------------------+
|Dave Cochran, Data General Corporation, RTP, NC   |
|cochran@dg-rtp.dg.com                             |
+--------------------------------------------------+
|Dr. Pavlov's distinguished career came to an      |
|abrupt end one day when the doorbell rang and the |
|dog ate the Avon lady.                            |
+--------------------------------------------------+
From: russ@bbxrbk (Russ Kepler)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Colourful Money
Date: 16 Oct 92 05:54:09 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <ldrcb3INNp4@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:
>Russ writes:
>>>"Dikes," Tim, "dikes!"
>>Geoff, I've been to Amsterdam and Tim's right.  Dykes it is.
>
>Poodle vomit.  Tim was writing in English, and English spelling
>differentiates between "dikes" (walls or embankments built to hold
>back water and prevent floods) and "dykes," a slang therm for
>lesbians.  How the Dutch spell it is immaterial, and Tim's 
>accidental use of the Dutch spelling doesn't mean he didn't
>use the wrong English word.

Geoff, trust me.  I've been to Amsterdam and seen dykes (not on bikes)
and I've seen the dikes elsewhere in the Netherlands.  There's dykes
and there's dikes, and Tim would only consider the non-earthern kind,
no matter the spelling.

-- 
Russ Kepler, posting from home
Will hack unix for food 		(.sig stolen from dt - sorry, dt)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl)
Subject: Re: Religion & Such
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 22:10:06 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.144315.16505@dg-rtp.dg.com> cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy) writes:

>
>It was your friend and his, Paul the Apostle, who added all of these other
>nifty ideas such as the inferiority of women, "heathenism" of nonbelievers,
>sexual constraints, and so forth.  The guy was a real mysoginist and 
>homophobe, IMO.  Unfortunately, he's generally considered as the real founder
>of Christianity.  If it hadn't been for him, Christ would have probably been
>just another little-known philosopher in a small corner of the world.
>

The really neat thing about old Paul was that the whole time that Christ
was alive, Paul was dragging Him through the mud.  Of course, he was then
*Saul* of Tarsus.  Anyway, he had a "miraculous" experience in the desert,
changed his name (basically the same idea as changing your finger in hopes
that you won't be identified with your earlier posts), and started undoing
a lot of what Jesus had done.

Jesus spent a lot of time & energy trying to undo years of complication that
the Pharisees had put into religion.  He was disgusted by the name calling and
judgment passing.  He said all anyone REALLY had to do to be a good person
was to love God more than anything, with your neighbor coming in a close 
second, on a par with oneself.  I think this still stands up as about as good
a philosophy as has been developed.

The Paul "saw the light" and shot it all to shit.  He probably just got tired
of all the crap he was getting as Saul.  

Paul the Apostle was a nobody who tried (and succeeded) to grab a little lime
light by tellnig everyone he saw Elvis in the supermarket.
-- 
***************************************************************************
jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu is Jenny Gutbezahl @ Univ. of Mass, Amherst
****************************************************************************
These opinions are all mine.  Flame all you want, I'll make more
From: Gordon.Riddell@prg.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: the gaul
Date: 12 Oct 92 09:52:56 GMT
X-Mailer: mail-news 2.0.3

In article <1992Oct10.001134.3971@netcom.com> rickg@netcom.com (Rick Gordon)
writes:

|Nameless dread: Wondering if "Asterix" was French at all.  Maybe
|German?  Nah, I'am almost sure it was French.


I suppose that is why he's called Asterix the Gaul then?


Gordon
From: graham@cs.washington.edu (Stephen Graham)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Wastebaskets
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:23:29 GMT
Organization: Electrical Engineering Staff, U. of Washington, Seattle


You'd think wastebaskets would be simple, unpeeveful objects, wouldn't you?
You just dump things in them, and a janitor comes by in the night and 
empties them. No fuss, no bother for anyone.

But not mine. Instead, I get to play hunt-the-wastebasket each morning.
My current office is laid out oddly, with my desk tucked back into a
corner, seperated from the rest of the office by dividers. You reach it
by going down a 10 ft passageway between a table on one side and a set
of filecabinets on the other. You get to the end, and there's my desk,
with just enough room to spin around in my swivel chair. Naturally,
there's not a lot of extra space for the wastebasket. So it goes under
the table. Not necessarily the most convenient spot in the world, but 
as good as could be expected.

Even if the janitor just left the empty wastebasket on the table, life
would be ok. But, nooo, each morning it's in a different location.
Sometimes it's put back in the original location, sometimes it's left
in the middle of the passageway, sometimes it's clear on the other side
of the office, and sometimes it's put on a box under the table. This last
is the particularly peevesome place. It takes real work to put the
wastebasket there, as there's barely room to fit the wastebasket between
the bottom of the table and the top of the box.

Is it too much to hope that my wastebasket, at least, will be simple and
unpeevesome?
-- 
Stephen Graham
graham@cs.washington.edu	 uw-beaver!june!graham
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich)
Subject: Re: corporate slime
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 14:49:00 GMT

In <LARRY.92Oct7144430@peak.psl.nmsu.edu> larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way) writes:

>In article <1992Oct5.144134.6028@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich) writes:

>    Labor unions serve the worker, corporate management serves the corporation.
>    Got a problem with that?

> Not really. But I never said that corporations were evil, so you can put your
> slobber back in your mouth, Bill.

Aw, gee.  Now I have to wipe my handprints off my ObAssaultWeapon and put it
back up.  Wipe the slobber off it, too.
--
"Yes, he really said that!"
From: jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Chunderation
Keywords: elephant, HE, m203
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:14:40 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <ldj804INN96r@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking) writes:
>(Jenny "peevetown apologist" Gutbezahl) writes:

>>only see your posts.  So when I say "You're cute," I actually mean that your
>>posts are cute.  
>
>You mean I'm "cute" like you think Jeff Dahmer is "cute?"  I think I
>understand, now.
>

I'm not sure.  I've never seen any of Dahmer's posts.  Did he used to be an
a.p. regular before his unfortunate incarceration.  Gee, I'm sorry I missed
that, especially if his postings were as full of joy and light as yours are,
sweetie-pie.

>
>Ok, so you're more than a student.  You're still less than a
>restaraunt owner, which was my point.
>

"less than a restaurant owner"?  Leaving aside the fact that you have no
idea what real estate holdings I might have.....  Where does "restaurant
owner" fall in the grand scheme of humanity?  Somewhere above student but
below self-appointed net ettiquette cop?  Just curious.

>
>Label it anything you want.  It would just be nice if you cut the 
>inane chatter and stop drawing a happy face on everything that 
:-)  :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)
>happens here.  Look at the name of the newsgroup.  alt.PEEVES.  A
:-)  :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)
>place to address the things that peeve you.  If it doesn't make your
:-)  :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)
>stomach churdle, your temples throb, your bunions ache and your teeth
:-)  :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)
>grind, take it elsewhere.
:-)  :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)
>
But Andy, honey, it seems that my posts make YOUR stomach churdle, YOUR
temples throb, YOUR bunions ache and YOUR teeth grind.  And you know, my
love, I live only to give you these simple pleasures  :-)  :-)   :-)

-- 
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jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu is Jenny Gutbezahl @ Univ. of Mass, Amherst
****************************************************************************
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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: allane@earth.gas.unsw.OZ.AU (The Emir of Oz)
Subject: Colourful Money (Re: credit card peeve)
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Summary: Monopoly money, bucks, Canadian ranting
Keywords: Eat Me
Reply-To: allane@earth.gas.unsw.OZ.AU
Organization: The Grand Poohbah of Oz
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 06:47:35 GMT

hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman) writes:
> nesdoly@dvinci.USask.Ca (Mark Nesdoly) writes:
>>
>>Come on up to Canada, and you can pay tax on...
>>[list of many things deleted]

>My peeve is when places don't tell you what the bottom line cost is going
>to be so things like tickets suddenly go up in price $15. I mean it's not
>like I have the option of flying to this place *without* paying the
>airport taxes, so why are they quoting the price without taxes included?

I completely concur <ObCanadianPCResponse>. Before the dreaded GST there
was no sales tax in Alberta (God's country). When I travelled down to the
States or into one of the other provinces it used to piss me off to
get to the till with $1.99 (the marked price.. okay... $2 in coins) and
find out that it actually was $2.14 or something equally inane. WHY can't
sales taxes be included in the price (and BOTH prices listed on the shelf)
so that there isn't any mystery about the resulting cost.

Although, a peeve on a similar vein:
The stores in Canada that advertise "We pay the GST" or "No GST charged".

>And besides, eh, here in 'Murrica we have to pay our tax in solid 'Murrican
>dollars, not those multi-colored Monopoly-money things you poor dears 
>play house with. <ObCanadianBait>

<Bleep> <Bleep> <Bleep> (sound of heavy ice cracking...) <Crrrraaaacccckkkk!>

Warning! ObCanadianTirade approaching...
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh Yeah! Sez YOU! You Yankee pig dog with stars and stripes etched with 
apple pie into your backside. May the guns of a thousand red commie cubans
shit cigars down your throat while you whistle "Yankee Doodle" backwards.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(sound of heavy breathing... *NO* not *THAT* kind of heavy breathing...)

Hmm. I feel much better. Nothing like a rant at a Yank to strengthen one's 
feeling of national pride and self worth. After all, it is *ALL* their fault
you know.

The Australian plastic bills are both colourful and more fun than the Canadian
ones. The queen can be erased with a common pencil eraser and replaced with the
fun-loving figure of your choice.

(I, of course, only HEARD that this was possible... This is not something
 that should be attempted at home)

PS. What do the German marks look like? They MUST come in pretty colours...
(which all real currencies do of course).

Al
still living in Oz
from ALBERRRRDAH, CANADUH

---
_______________________________________________________________________________
| Allan H. Evans * School of Geography * UNSW * PO Box 1 Kensington 2033 Aust.|
| allane@earth.gas.unsw.OZ.AU  Remote Sensing and Spatial Information Systems |

Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Annoying Celebrity Causes (Was Sinead, Was MacD's)
Organization: peevish, at best
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:06:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.064254.21373@cs.umb.edu> mzraly@ra.cs.umb.edu
(Ain't Nobody's Business If I Do) writes:

>I've been to Walden Pond.  It's a nice little pond, suitable for
>swimming, with a few stones to mark the foundation of Thoreau's cabin,

!Peeve: The local Parks Department (or whatever it's called) brings in
a truckload of rocks every few months, to replace the ones taken by
the tourists.

>not too far from the pond.  There's a road to one side, railroad tracks
>on the other.  It's doesn't take a great deal of land to encompass the
>pond and the foundation.  There's no reason housing couldn't coexist
>with the pond and the Thoreau site.  But DH seems to think otherwise.

ObPeeve: People Unclear on the Concept.  There are four types of
people who sit in the front seats of NYC buses: elderly, handicapped,
illiterate, and inconsiderate.  The latter two predominate.

++++++++++++++++++++Seth    sethb@fid.morgan.com++++++++++++++++++++
-l "so many BDIs, so little tnt" p [Laura Potler]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: mhart@blackjack.dt.navy.mil (Michael Hart)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Japanese Tourists ate my building.
Date: 15 Oct 92 11:31:11 GMT

In <1992Oct10.155924.20279@wvus.org> art@wvus.org (Art Nicolaysen) writes:
>In article <mhart.718627756@blackjack> mhart@blackjack.dt.navy.mil (Michael Hart) writes:
>>
>>!Peeve: Am I the only one here who's fallen in lust^H^H^H^H love
>>with Jenny G.?

>Peeve: People who speculate, but never take action.  Mike, why doncha
>just run a vote (forget the CFD): should Jenny G. be declared official
>alt.peeves ghoddess?

Good idea, but I'm not sure it's Peevetown-legal.  'Course, I'm 
neither a parlimentarian or a Human Resources type, but maybe 
the Peevetown Funeral Director and Human Resources Person could 
give a ruling on whether or not a body (especially a body with
perky parts) is allowed to double-dip into the title barrel?

If I'm not mistaken, I believe Jenny is already employed as the
Official Frightener of Tourists and Proprietoress of the Coffee Shop.
What with all the unemployment out there, it might be perhaps 
less than fair if Jenny were to be Peevetown Goddess _and_
OFT&PCS.

Elaine?

--
|   Michael G. Hart                   mhart@blackjack.dt.navy.mil    |
|--------------------------------------------------------------------|
|     You think _I_ speak for the government or the navy?  HAH!      |
| Aviation, computers, quality improvement, Northern Exposure, money |
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: nesdoly@dvinci.USask.Ca (Mark Nesdoly)
Subject: Re: Esoteric Skinhead O'Connor (Was stuff about Mac D's)
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:48:07 GMT

ObSineadJoke:  How does Sinead O'Connor part her hair?

               She squats.

-- Mark
 
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: alex@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Vrchoticky)
Subject: Re: Freshers
Keywords: Lala la, lala lala, lala la, lala lalaaa
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Dept. for Realtime Systems, AUSTRIA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:47:05 GMT

hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman) writes:

>Yes, !Al, the memory of the Banana Splits is being kept alive through the
>valiant efforts of The Dickies, a very fine <speed metal/punk/thrash/
>whatever-the-hell> band. It's things like this that restore my faith in
>humanity.

ob-dickies: `...a girl with a balcony you could read shakespeare from...'

-alex

-- 
Alexander Vrchoticky             alex@vmars.tuwien.ac.at
TU Vienna, CS/Real-Time Systems  +43/1/58801-8168
From: avdh@sunnyboy.dazixco.ingr.com (Alain van der Heide)
Subject: Re: Lou Reed 
Organization: Dazix - An Intergraph Company
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 16:55:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.010554.9967@twg.com>, nolan@twg.com (!Merriam Webster) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Oct13.142313.8750@dazixco.ingr.com> 
> 	avdh@sunnyboy.dazixco.ingr.com (Alain van der Puke) says to The Cross
> 	I Must Bear:
> 
> | You listen you mindless dickfor:  First of all, if you're going to get cute by
> 
> In article <1992Oct14.001216.9532@twg.com>, The selfsame cross misses the boat
> 
> |>dickfor?
> 
> Lissen up, Don-boy! It's Dick Fur!

No Nobrain, it's dickfor (see my witty reply to your butthole buddy).

> That vanderPutz can't spell, nor can he reason.
       ^^^^^^^^^^

ObPeeve: !Spaces between the "van" "der" and "Heide" (or whatever tired old
variation your feeble synapses can conure up).

> For that matter, neither can you, but at least your grandpa makes good
> pickles. Careful, or I'll have Herr Keppler lay a clue on you
> 
> --
> Nolan "Sheesh! The things I have to bear" Hinshaw


- a (!acef ruoy otni ,lanimret ruoy fo tuO) vdh
From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Geoff: Tool of the Vatican or Catspaw of the Pope?
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:05:05 GMT
	<26616@castle.ed.ac.uk> <BvrJ2B.G0@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
	<92282.110029SECBH@CUNYVM.BITNET> <ld8rt4INNd20@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: NMSU Computer Science

<In article <ld8rt4INNd20@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:

<Why do people say "'Roman' Catholic?"  Isn't that redundant?  I'm not
<aware that there's any other kind.  

<   I once heard someone assert that it's "Roman" Catholic as opposed to the 
<   Eastern Orthodox church centered in Constantin...in Istanbul.  But history
<   notwithstanding, I've always considered the Eastern Orthodox Church to be 
<   its own thing, separate and distinct from Catholicism.  After all, its
<   members are never referred to as Eastern or Istanbul Catholics, or as any 
<   other kind of Catholics, and their priests wear those funny hats.

	Hah!! So, Miller, really an agent of the Papists, eh?

	I never expected it of you, but then I never expected
	a (all together now) <this space for the obvious clause>.

ObPeeve: that too many mewling newbie dweebs watched M. P. on
	 Empty Vee and have stolen some of my favorite jokes.

	Fer yer information, oh Agent of The Vatican At Sun,
	the Greek Orthodox and the Russian Orthodox (not to 
	mention the Coptics) all consider themselves to be 
	the true descendents of the "catholic" (notice the 
	small "c") Church. It's sorta like the difference
	between Xerox (the TM) and "xerox" (photocopying),
	but not quite.

	Now, if you'll step into my handy time machine, we'll
	whisk back to Moskva in the year 1666; you can ask the
	nice Metropolitian of that city your question.....

	P.S. I hope you don't mind having sharp pointy things
	thrust up yer butt (until they come out of the top
	of your head). If you do, there's this neat trick
	that involves 4 horses....or the one with molten lead....
	suffice to say, Torquemada was a piker (and unimaginative)
	compared to some folks in Rus during The Great Scism.

ObPeeve: the historically challenged.