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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Re: Don't laugh, but
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ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU writes:
> Don't encourage him!  He was talking last night about buying me
> an OED on CD-ROM for my birthday--but of course it would live w/
> him, and I could use it whenever I'm with him.  Jeeze!

That's only because you thought I should buy you an IBM Thinkpad.

--karsten
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From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Tshirt colors
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I just looked through an old Hanes catalog.  I apologize to Anne for
ever impugning her taste in Beefy Ts (they are *all* 100% cotton, and I
must have been confused thinking they might have been otherwise).

As to color, they have a color, Ash, which is a VERY light grey--much
lighter than anything that I have that would be what I would call
athletic grey.  Is *this* the color you guys are talking about?  This is
light enough to take any color printing.

Karen
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From:         CHRIS SCHMIDT <CHRISS%CWU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Cloudy skies over Portland

>P.S. Two people yesterday sent notes saying things like "I vote for
>Portland."  I counted those as #1's (=8) for Portland.  SHould I assume
>that all other sites on the list were voted "no" by those people?

Yes.

Chris
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Maya's poem
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Brad,
 The version that I posted last night was copied from _Prodigy_ (yes, I
actually pay to read all of those ads), but the version that appeared in
this morning's _The Houston Post_  has the line as follows: You, the Turk,
the Arab, the Swede, the German, the Eskimo, the Scot.

doris smith (dorisann@tenet.edu)
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Shirt.gif
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On Thu, 21 Jan 1993, Joan Boorstein wrote:

> so as to get the greatest detail.  Will you mail copies, abh?

Sorry, you'll just have to use the power of your imagination ;-)

-abh
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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Don't laugh, but
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> >Reading Karsten's narrative of the <piercings> *hurts*, ooooo,
> >it really *hurts*!
> >--ggs (not ready for this yet....)
>
> You are the guy who was "afraid" of eating goat's balls, right?
>
> tushar

Senility has finally set in, tushie-wushie.  It wasn't goat's balls,
but goat's tits, and I did eat them.  With great pleasure.  They were
very suckulant.
--ggs
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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: The Salmonbake Uprising
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        > No, no, Doris and Giggles.  We're not going to think of individuals.
        > We're going to think of the whole group as a huge intertwined circle.
        >    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

        I think there is a <name> for that and its initials are D...C....

It is?  Are you sure you're not thinking of a <Texas Star>???

G
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From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: Asians
              24 Jan 1993 21:47:08 CST from <samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU>

>"Oriental" is probably a vaguer term in that it still includes the
>middle east etc. I can't think of anyone who will, in everyday speech,
>refer to, say, Greeks as "oriental". "Asians" on the other hand, are
>definitely east of India. In fact, what to call Indians seems to be a
>problem. "Middle Easterners" are fine, "Asians" are fine, but somehow
>neither includes India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka, and
>a little bit to the west, say Afghanistan and perhaps even Iran. Iraqis
>and further west, I think, will be definitely called "middle eastern"
>while even Burmese, Malaysians, Indonesians, etc will be unhesitatingly
>called "Asians".

This is a near-perfect mapping of usage (minus the Greek business).  But
why is what to call Indians a problem?  You call them Indians.  Pakistanis
and Afghanis et al. are called by their names.  So what if "Middle Easterners"
or "Asians" excludes them?  Linguistic illogic.

brad
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 01:31:08 GMT
From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: signoff
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        Whoever suggested that is precisely the type of person who doesn't belon
g
        on Words-L. To borrow a phrase from GT, they're overly anal-retentive
        pillocks.

        In short, they can go stuff it.

        -abh

I think this was remarkably prescient considering Natalie's later
suggestion that it was Adam Conn...

G
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From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
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From: "Ruth M. Hanschka" <ap290@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>

> <<groan>>  That was truely horrible.  I should have known; I've Hera-d you
> tell jokes before.  You have the Psyche of a twelve year-old, and the sense
> of humor to match....

That's okay. My wit has been panned for a long time now.
Some local genieuses just have to do the best they can
with what they have. I do indeed find Psyche very inspiring.

Peter
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject: Re: Shirt.gif
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> under it is skrunched up, unreadable.  It looks really great that way.
> Why is it doing this?

It's the way it will look with a <pot belly> inside.

-abh

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From:         Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Gilbert's Sport/Leisure Question
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              Jan 25, 93 10:22 pm

> > "What's the highest city to have hosted the Summer Olympics?"

> to admit that I don't know.  This *must* be Denver or Mexico City.
> I am going to guess:
>           *MEXICO CITY*


Gilbert's guess is correct as indicated by wombat in another post.  Denver
has never hosted the summer olympics (or the winter I think, but am not
certain).  The summer games at Mexico City in '68 resulted in new world
records in a slew of track and field events.  This in itself is not very
remarkable, but for the fact that some of the times/distances (long jump,
for example) were not equalled/bettered for an unusually long time (by
modern day track and field standards).

(This is really a test message for you, Carolyn.  Hope the system fubar at
your end has cleared up by now.)

-rashmi
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:49:53 CST
From:         Natalie <NATALIE@ENGLISH.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Key-Mapping
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I realized after turning off the computer while ago (that's mapped to
"a while" for Tushar) that what I wrote about key-mapping probably
sounded even dumber than I am, which is dumb enough already.  I
realize that it's not a matter of telling Procomm to use + for telnet
-- it's a matter of telling Procomm not to use its default ctrl-] to
cls or whatever it is Procomm does when you hit ctrl-].  That will
leave the telnet default available for telnet.

--- Natalie (natalie@english.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:26:42 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
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SET WORDS-L MAIL
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: Salmonbake bitching
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:07:44 GMT

	For what it's worth, I cast my vote for North Carolina.  

Rita
Doing the resume thang.


-- 
Net.Personality for hire.                       Will Post for Food.
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From:         Evelyn <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Peggy Noonan
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One of the things I found interesting about her is that she would NOT
write speeches for Nancy Reagan and got away with it.  I wonder if she
would be do that with the Clintons?

Evelyn
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Date: 26 Jan 93 17:27:34 GMT
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              26 Jan 1993 14:28:54 +1100 from <LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU>

I KNEW I shouldn't have taken Geography question.  I know Bikini Atoll is
the one that the U.S. used for tests and Funafuti is one of the few atolls
in the French sphere of influence in the Pacific.  The only other atoll that
comes to mind is Rongarik (sp?).  I'll say Funafuti.

Evelyn
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From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Betty's Entertainment Question
              26 Jan 1993 09:22:28 CST from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

Well, what was it, Natalie?  "Wake Up, Little Susie" because of the
morning-after implications?

brad
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Cloudy skies over Portland
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In a previous article, maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU (Natalie Maynor) says:

>How about voting?  All in favor of Portland?  All in favor of NC?
>Write-ins?

I'll take NC over Portland, mainly because I stand half a chance of getting
there.   A trip to Portland would be out of the question about now, or any 
time soon when there isn't a job offer at the end of it....  Now if only
we could move it somewhere like Philadelphia or its suburbs.  Lots to do,
and lots of things like trains and planes go right ot it...?

-- 
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In a previous article, MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA (Peter Montgomery) says:

>> <<groan>>  That was truely horrible.  I should have known; I've Hera-d you
>> tell jokes before.  You have the Psyche of a twelve year-old, and the sense
>> of humor to match....
>
>That's okay. My wit has been panned for a long time now.
>Some local genieuses just have to do the best they can
>with what they have. I do indeed find Psyche very inspiring.
>
>Peter
>
Peter's Pan-ned, indeed.:-( <holds nose>  That one was truely horrible.
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From:         Bandwidth Pig <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Salmonbake bitching
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Natalie,

To be Frank (and there's nothing WRONG with me wanting to be Frank, so
quit *badgering* me): the Portland idea sucks. It's too far and there's
nothing interesting besides the Salmonbake. This thing should be nearer to
where the majority of Wordslers live, which is to say, the east coast.
Also, there seems to be a dearth of, erm, organization regarding the
Portland thing. One reason the Clambake was so successful was that it was
just a drive for many people. Many of us made it our Big Summer Trip(tm),
but there were lots of people who just drove up for the day and that made
it Truly Special and oh my, I think I need a handkerchief. Putting it in
Portland makes it The Big Summer Trip for almost everyone---or at least
for a significantly higher number than for an east coast blowout, and
thereby limits its interest and potential attendance. Some folks would go
to a Words-L gathering if it were held in the 5th circle of hell, which
looking back on some of the extracurricular activities at the Clambake, is
not at all out of the question some day, but lots won't or can't take the
time or have the resources to make such a mammoth journey.

So I'd say let's quickly move it back east, or at least midwest. Or North
Carolina. I'm sure we'd ALL be welcome at Giggles' house.

-abh
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject: Re: WORDS-L TP: Evelyn's Sport/Leisure Question
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>How is it that an Australian TP doesn't have a single Cricket question?
>Shocking!
>
>tushar

Oh, it does... but I had to sort through 14 cards before I found one just
for you. "Who captained the England team in the 1977 Centenary Cricket Test
in Australia?"

Carolyn
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Figures of Speech and Their Names
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> There are many figures of speech that have names. I love them,
> I love their names, I love to use the figures, I love to name them
> when I see them used. (( parataxis )) Alas, I cannot find a
> comprehensive list of them; there is no Audobon Guide (( eponymy? )).

I've seen such lists in books but can't remember any titles at the moment.
Will try to find out.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Salmonbake bitching
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> To be Frank (and there's nothing WRONG with me wanting to be Frank, so
> quit *badgering* me): the Portland idea sucks. It's too far and there's

There's nothing wrong with your wanting to be Frank, but *I* don't want
you to be Frank.  That would put a big crimp in my lust since I have no
inclinations toward same-sex lusting.

I agree with you about Portland.  I was not among those who voted for it
in the first place, although I conceded to it and will go if it happens.
I would *much* rather have it somewhere on/near the east coast -- or in
another country.  For some reason, the U.S. west doesn't lure me.  It's
too far away and doesn't reach out and grab me the way other destinations
do.  Last May's Seattle gathering will always hold a special place in my
memory because it was my first FTF with WORDSLers.  But I don't care whether
I ever see Seattle again.

> So I'd say let's quickly move it back east, or at least midwest. Or North
> Carolina. I'm sure we'd ALL be welcome at Giggles' house.

I was in favor of the NC idea from the beginning and will happily vote
for it.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:42:23 EST
From:         ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU
Subject:      Re: Question for Torkel
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Posted on 22 Jan 1993 at 11:22:22 by Judith E. Schrier
>Reference: A book of lectures by Einar Haugen, published 10 or 15

Einar Haugen is a wonderful linguist!  But I thought he was dead.

Karen
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              27 Jan 1993 13:10:04 CST from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

...and Toronto has the Phantom of the Opera!

Evelyn
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>Senility has finally set in, tushie-wushie.  It wasn't goat's balls,

Maybe it was bullocks' ballocks. Whatever "prairie oyysters" are.

>They were very suckulant.

You blind me with your ferocious wordplay.

tushar
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From:         Natalie Maynor <natalie@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Aha
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I know why I got bumped!  I had set telnet escape to @ since Procomm
doesn't get along well with the default escape.  So when I got to the @
in the address, I escaped.
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From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Zeus to Narcissus
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From: BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU

>  I saw it already.  I hate it when I fall for setups like that.
>  All that earnest talk about Shakespeare's imagination and the
>  Canadian handicap lobby sucked me right in.
>  brad

Sorry about that. Be warned. Shakespeare is my weak point. The mere
mention of his name will send me into paroxysms of paranomasia. Have
you ever read the opening of Romeo and Juliet? The word play of
Mercutio (another who takes people in) is a great wonder to behold.

There is a serious side to this particular joke. McLuhan theorised
that the electronic mind works so quickly, that if a punch line
is not virtually one with the lead line, the joke tends not to work.
He used this joke as his favorite example. He then went on to list
off his favorites from Ulysses and Finnegans Wake, Joyce being one
of his four or five great inspirations.

Hope that makes up for Peter's folly. :}

Peter
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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
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        >> OK, Smart Aleck - who was the poster from SIVM.BITNET the other day,
hmmm???
        >
        >Sorry to step in first, but I'm guessing blommie -- since he's said he'
s been
        >working at the Smithsonian -- when the posting appeared I checked that
SIVM
        >is the Smithsonian Institution.  Correct?

        It could be Adrian but sounded more long-winded. Blomberg talking
        whatever stupid nonsense it was seems quite impossible to me.

Who else mentioned that they were going to the Smithsonian recently?

G
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From:         Tony Harminc <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Spring is here
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Posted on 23 Jan 1993 at 23:26:53 by Anne Burton Harwell

>No typo, the buds are coming out on the trees, the wildflowers are
>sprouting, the temperature is about 75, there's a cool breeze blowing,
>and a young girl's thoughts turn to <high performance, small-displacement
>engines>.

Go for an Alpha.  Or if you must stick to Macs, the 68040 isn't bad.
I know not to even mention Intel to you.

Tony H.
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From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>
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              24 Jan 1993 01:10:26 EST from <BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU>

Gene Barry:  Bat Masterson, Amos Burke of "Burke's Law" and "Amos Burke,
Secret Agent," the publisher of "The Name of the Game," and the first
murderer to face Peter Falk as Colombo (in "Prescription: Murder").
I'm a fan of both Gene Barry and Peter Falk.

Evelyn
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Posted on 24 Jan 1993 at 18:32:19 by Peter Montgomery
>However, I don't think netiquette itself is subtle, if the traffic
>is so high people can't participate in it.

People on this list make their own decisions about how to handle the
high traffic.  A large nb. of people read all the postings.  Some
people delete certain ones.  This doesn't prevent anyone from
participating.

>I would also say that if a lot of responses have to be as strong as
>they do in order to communicate their connotations as well as their
>denotations, that that subtlety is questionable.

This is a fact of e-life, that's one's postings must be overly clear.

>WORDS-L is only VERY secondarily what its name would suggest
>it is about. If it were called BABBLE-L or even TOWER-OF-BABBLE-L,
>the absence of civilised rules would make sense. As it stands, that
>absence seems somewhat silly.

So does your presence.

Karen
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