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From: js@cs.tulane.edu (Jan Silbermann)
Subject: Walt Disney World questions
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:16:27 GMT



Apologies if the following are FAQs.

If a FAQ list for visiting WDW exists,
would someone please e-mail it to me?

We are planning a trip to WDW in Dec.  My daughter will be 2 1/2
and is approx. 3' tall.  We plan to see:

	Cinderella's Castle             Pirates of the Caribbean
	Country Bear Jamboree           Haunted Mansion
	Mickey's Starland               Dumbo ride
	Peter Pan ride                  It's A Small World
	Mr. Toad's Wild Ride            Mission to Mars

I have the Birnbaum _Official Guidebook_,
but still need answers to the following questions.

1)  Too many, not enough for one day?

2)  Any height restrictions on above?

3)  Any of them too scary?

4)  Can we bring a six month old baby on any of the above?

5)  Can we bring a movie/VHS camera on any of above?

6)  Where are strollers kept while we are on the ride?
    Are they safe?

7)  Any place for kids to take a nap?

8)  Any kosher food inside WDW?
    If not, can we bring food into the park?

9)  Any cheap ($30-50) motels ANYWHERE close by?

10) Any other tips.

THanks. js@cs.tulane.edu
From: lynne@pacersoft.com (Lynne Chantler)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Make your own Re: finger paints (non-staining)
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:22:19 GMT
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In article <1992Oct14.154853.18762@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> Laura Floom,
lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov writes:
> kids paints can be made washable by adding soap. 


Here are some recipes for washable finger paints from "Feed me I'm yours."

This is a great book, it's a lot more that just a cookbook for kids.


Washable fingerpaints


Recipe #1

Mix together:
3 tbsp. sugar
1/2 cup cornstarch

Add
2 cups cold water

Cook over low heat stir constantly.

remove from heat and divide into 4-5 portions.  Add food coloring and a
drop of dish detergent to each portion.

Recipe #2

Mix together:

1/2 cup dry laundry starch
1/2 cup cold water

Add
1 1/2 cups of boiling water

Cook over low heat until shiney

Remove from the heat and add:

1/2 cup Ivory soap flakes
1 tsp. glycerin

divide into portions and add food coloring.

Recipe #3

Beat warm water into Ivory soap flakes until they are the right
consistency
divide into portions and add food coloring.

I think some food coloring does stain but you can also substitute any
washable paint to these recipes instead of using food coloring.

Spread lots of newpaper on the kitchen floor and go to town!
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: smudd@vstn1.math.uoknor.edu (Mudd, Stephanie)
Subject: Re: Having more than 2
Originator: news@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:08:00 GMT
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Organization: Mathematics Computer Network, University of Oklahoma

In article <1992Oct13.162057.19644@random.ccs.northeastern.edu>, sgauch@ccs.northeastern.edu (Susan Gauch) writes...
>I'm mom to Laura (3.7 years) and Brian (9 months) and debating 
>having another.  The evening seemed so long when we had just one, but now
>that it is split between the two of them, there just doesn't seem to be
>enough time.  The thought of having to divide the hours three ways seems
>impossible.  However, I imagine that the oldest starts spending more
>time with friends or with her own pursuits, leaving (hopefully) time
>for number 3.  I just love babies (and I'm pretty fond of kids, too!)
>and don't really feel "finished."
> 
>I'm contemplating a larger age gap (4-5 years)
>between number 2 and 3.  Basically, Laura and Brian are developing
>a good relationship and I don't want to disrupt it by having another
>baby that ends up close to Brian and leaves Laura in the lurch.
>Anyway, I'd love to hear from others who had more than 2 while
>working.  I would expect it to be more work than 2 (I'm not a fool)
>but did it disrupt family harmony?  Any thoughts on spacing?
>Am I out of my mind?  What was the deciding factor for those who
>had 2 and stopped?  Sanity?
> 
>P.S.  We use a nanny for daycare, so except for college and preschool 
>and clothing and.... there wouldn't be that much extra expense (oh, yeah:-)).
>-- 
>Susan Gauch
>sgauch@flora.ccs.northeastern.edu


My siter-in-law has 5 kids and they range in age 8 to 2.  She has a boy that is
8, another boy who is 4, a set of twin boys that are 3, and a girl that is 2.
The 4 yr. old can talk, but you can not understand him.  He also acts like he
is about 2 or 3.  My whole family and I believe that this is due to the fact
that his brothers are only about a year younger than he is.  We feel that he is
going backwards instead of forward.  I believe that if you are going to have
very many children, they should be at least 2 to 3 years difference in their
age.  Just my opinion though.

Stephanie
smudd@nsfuvax.math.uoknor.edu

believe that this
From: IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Ailsa N.T. Murphy)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Correct pronunciation of name
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:39:20 GMT
 <1bi4okINN72f@smaug.West.Sun.COM>
Organization: University of Maine System

i woudl think that the correct pronunciation is whatever
the family says it is.  there are a lot of perfectly nice
celtic names beig hideously mispronounced by the standards
of teh original language right now.  but the pronunciations
are still right, because that is what the owners of said names
SAY the prnunciatiosn are supposed to be...

                                           -ailsa

p.s. AIL-sa, for the curious...
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Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: anne@dolores.Stanford.EDU (Anne Paulson)
Subject: Re: Midwife info/Food and Fluids in Labour
Organization: Stanford University
	<1992Oct7.182554.828@jetsun.weitek.COM>
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:13:35

In article <1992Oct7.182554.828@jetsun.weitek.COM> nadja@jetsun.weitek.COM (Nadja Adolf) writes:


   >In the Netherlands, which has significantly better birth outcomes than the
   >U.S. or Canada, 40% of all births are handled at HOME, strictly by
   >midwives. No doctor is ever involved. Many hospital births are handled by
   >midwives only. The caesarean rate is less than half that in North America,
   >and the rates of other interventions are also dramatically lower. A strong
   >midwifery system there is credited for keeping obstetrics "honest" and
   >restricting the overuse of medical technology by providing an alternative
   >model that proves aggressive intervention is only necessary in a small
   >minority of births.

   Much of the intervention in US practice is caused by our atypical obstetric
   population. Our profile is much more like that of a third world country.
   We have far more young mothers (under 18, and even more dangerous, under 
   15) and grand multiparas than other developed nations.

   These two groups are the most likely to require drastic intervention.

These two groups are also the groups that are least likely to
get the drastic intervention, because young mothers are likely to be
poor mothers.  It turns out that in the U.S., the pregnant woman's
chance of having a Caesarean is directly proportional to her family
income.  Rich women have a considerably larger chance of having a
Caesarean than poor women!  

Also, the U.S. has a similar population to Canada, but dissimilar
statistics, a Canandian netter reported the last time this argument
was advanced.

So if you look closely at birth statistics in the U.S. and other
developed countries, you will find that this "atypical obstetric
population" argument is not supported by the facts.

-- Anne
From: chirlian@fieser.brynmawr.edu (L.E. Chirlian)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Daycare -- when to investigate?
Date: 9 Oct 1992 14:50:53 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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In article <1992Oct7.162852.18262@nb.rockwell.com> Guthrie@nb.rockwell.com 
(Karen Guthrie) writes:

    >Babies are a lot more work than you might think and the centers
    >usually allow four babies to one adult which means that they get fed
    >and changed usually at some time near when they need it but other than
    >that the women have no time.

	I just wanted to say that not all centers are like this.  I have
personally seen two women juggle four babies (each) and they were not
robots, just feeding, changing and nothing else.  Those babies got
lots of love and attention.  Every center (and every care giver in
general) is different.

	I'm do _not_ want to start a flame war.  These decisions are
very personal and everyone has to do what is right for them, there are
no absolutes.  If you think that center-based care (or home-based care
with more than one child) may be right for your family, don't
automatically exclude it because it seems as though the description
above must be correct.  

	Actually, now that I think about it, I think that the first
few weeks of Libby's life were spent feeding and changing, feeding and
changing, feeding and changing....... :-)  It's nice now that the food
stays in a little while longer!
				Lisa


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 Lisa Chirlian                                  chirlian@fieser.brynmawr.edu
 Department of Chemistry, Bryn Mawr College, Bryn Mawr, PA 19010
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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Wednesday, 14 Oct 1992 11:08:36 MST
From: <ICKAD@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: What happened to Barney?

Diana Choi asks where one may find Barney toys.  Funny you should ask.  On
page 23 of the "Constructive Playthings" catalog, they advertise a Barney
puppet.  Even Jamie (2.75 yrs.), whom I allowed to thumb through the pages,
exclaimed, "Oooh, wook!  Barney!"  Their toll-free order number is
1-800-832-0572.

Incidentally, I've backed off from my objection to "Barney & Friends".  I
figured that he could do worse, and--besides--I predict much more serious
challenges in the future, compared to which Barney will be nothing.  So, I
allow him to watch it, but tell him that I don't care for it and will go do
something else (*like take a nap!! :-).

But, should it ever come up, I *WILL* draw the line on spiky green and
purple hair! :-)

--Jamie's Mommy (Karen Davis)
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Saturday, 10 Oct 1992 09:00:31 EDT
From: Ailsa N.T. Murphy <IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Nostalgia TV (was Nostalgia toys)
 <1992Oct2.204042.10140@bcrka451.bnr.ca>
 <1992Oct6.061700.18696@csc.canberra.edu.au>
 <1992Oct7.204940.1737@ttinews.tti.com>

marcia brady?  never.  i wanted to be the Professor on Gilligan's
Island.  i always thought he was 1) really cool, and 2) the
most attractive man on TV.  not that i wanted to be an attractive
man, of course, but anyway...  *grin*

i remember the banana splits in a vague sort of way.  they were fun,
as i recall.  anybody remember the Bugaloos?  how about the star trek
animateds?  i was a young teenager when these were on, and i loved them,
and wanted to be Spock.

                                    -ailsa
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From: CLH7@psuvm.psu.edu (Chris Himes)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Midwife info/Food and Fluids in Labour
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:39:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92281.133921CLH7
 <1992Oct6.170406.957@random.ccs.northeastern.edu>
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Oct6.170406.957@random.ccs.northeastern.edu>,
sgauch@ccs.northeastern.edu (Susan Gauch) says:
>
>
>However, I find that when I'm in labour I start throwing up and the
>last thing I want is food or drink!  Note:  the nausea occurs before
>I have any drugs and before I hit transition.  So, there may be little
>demand from women (or at least, some women) for food during labour.
>
>How about it, anyone get hungry during labour?   Now, AFTERWARDS I was
>ravenous and the cafeteria was closed...
>
My labor was induced, and the day before when I was at the hospital for a
stress test I specifically asked the nurse what I should/could eat before
I came in the next morning.  She advised that I eat as much as I wanted,
since they wouldn't allow me to eat after labor started.  I never got
sick--I had pancakes and bacon for breakfast that morning.

I was ravenous that evening (about 12 hours w/o food) and the cafeteria
was closed.  They did have some kind of yucky "cold plate" that I didn't
feel like eating.  I wish we would have thought ahead to pack a lunch for
me!  In fact, the whole 2 days in the hospital I was starving, you would
think that for breastfeeding mothers they would let you eat a little more

Advice to moms-to-be:  Bring some snacks for after delivery, even if it
 is the middle of the day, you may not be able to get something to eat,
or something you want to eat, for awhile.

Chris Himes
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com (Buffy Hyler)
Subject: Marbles for Hungry Hippos
Reply-To: hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com
Organization: SAIC
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:04:53 GMT

Does anyone have a phone number/address for a source for the
marbles for the Hungry Hungry Hippos Game?  Or a recomendation
for substitutes that work as well as the originals?  I really
don't want to buy a whole new game just for some replacement
marbles!

Thanks in Advance!!!

---
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Buffy Hyler (hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com)
SAIC, Campus Point
San Diego, California
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Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: rmorey@utrcv1 (Randall Morey)
Subject: Re: need child safety products
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: United Technologies Research Center
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:10:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.150024.16223@news.eng.convex.com>, newton@convex.com (Vicki Newton) writes...
>hey all you parents out there
> 
>well the time has come for some major child-proofing...fast!
>we have already found the standard outlet plugs and table-corner-
>bumper things but i am looking in particular for two items that
>i can't seem to find.
> 
>i swear i saw these in some catalog once but now i can't find the
>catalog.  one thing is a protective bumper to go around a raised
>hearth.  the other thing is some kind of gizmo that won't let a
>bambino yank a lamp off the table by its cord.  can anyone point
>me at the right source for these things?
> 
>thanks!
>veek

I just received a catalog from a safety products distributer that has a wide
assortment of child safety products, in addition to other home safety items.
They DO have the hearth bumper, but I don't know about the lamp gadget.

The Safety Zone
2515 East 43rd Street
PO box 182247
Chattanooga, Tenn 37422-7247

I had to call home to get the address, and my wife didn't see a phone number
after a quick look. You could get it from Tenn. directory information.

Also, the Right Start catalog has a lot of babyproofing things.

(Standard Disclaimer: No affiliation, etc...)
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Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom)
Subject: Re: Victims of Bullies
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:54:14 GMT

In article <4570275@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com> janem@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com (Jane Marcus) writes:
>Is it just me, or is Richard Carlson really getting annoying with his
>clinical study of misc.kidders?
>
>Enquiring minds want to know,

Dont worry, it isnt just you! It wont be a big surprise to him, or anyone
who has read my follow ups, that I have found his posts to be extremely
annoying.

I did ask him, via email, to just ask his questions privately 
instead of putting people on the spot, but it didnt make much of an impression,
since he keeps right on asking, drilling, and arguing. I find it especially
annoying that he keeps coming up with generalizations and passing them off
as 'fact'. Then several netters will question his generalizations based on
their own experiences, and he starts drilling them in hopes that they will
admit they have it wrong, and his precious beliefs are safe!

I also know that there are several other netters feel the same way because
they have sent me email supporting my posts.

I decided to not follow up to his posts anymore, since it justs gives him a
forum to post even more.

Laura Floom
From: twriter1@pencom.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Names (don't do this to your kids)
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:26:57 GMT
Reply-To: twriter1@pencom.com
Organization: Pencom Software

Okay okay okay.  I can resist no longer.

When I was about 6 I was in the hospital.  The nurse
showed me her name tag and asked if I could read it.
It said "Nurse Blood."  I could read at the time, but
couldn't imagine that anyone could actually be named "Blood"
(even a nurse).  So I said "Bloooood" (rhymes with "food").
She corrected me and said her name was "blood."  Weird.

I wonder how much of this story is actually true (it's
been 20 years).

By the way, I knew a librarian whose name was Linda Book.
From: joanie@tigerrr.Eng.Sun.COM (Joan LeFevre)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: private schools
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:34:26 GMT
Reply-To: joanie@tigerrr.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: tigerrr


My husband and I would like to enroll our daughter in a private school when she's
old enough, but have no idea where to start looking into them. Does anyone have
suggestions of where schools are listed and how to go about finding a school that
is compatible with our objectives? 

She's only three months old now, but I understand that sometimes there are long 
waiting lists and certain tests that they have to pass. We want to be sure we are
ready to afford a school we decide on, as well as begin to prepare her for any type
of entrance exams that are required.

We have been unhappy with most of the public schools in our area, so we are certain
we want to look into other options.

(My brother-in-law thinks he is going to send her to school for us, but I refuse to
allow him to send her out of state to the school he is insisting on. I didn't have
a child to send her away from home...)   :-)))

Any advice is appreciated!

Thanks,
Joanie
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: kvt@willow.mitre.org
Subject: Re: RE: Far apart in age
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:50:54 GMT

In article <199210071941.AA05440@tuna.wang.com> JUTTA.LAGE@OFFICE.WANG.COM  
("Jutta Lage") writes:
> RE: Far apart in age
> I am expecting my second child (at the age of 34)  in February. My daughter  
is
> 13 years old. What are experiences with such a siblings relationsship? Anyone  
i
> n the same situation?
> Jutta

My situation is this - My mom was 38 when she had me, my sister was 
20 when I was born and my brother was 14.  Being the baby was great - 
I was verrrrry spoiled.  It was almost as if I had two sets of fun
parents (you know the ones that take you places, buy you things,
do anything to keep you happy!) and only one set that had some rules.

Both of my siblings moved out of the house before I was six years old
so it was as if I was an only child (this had good points and bad points).
I often wished I had a brother or sister closer to my age, but I
don't know that I would have wanted to share all the attention I
was getting!

One thing that is/was hard on me was that 20 years ago it was
kind of unusual to have a mom and dad that were as old as mine
were (I know it is pretty much the norm now, though) with a sister
who was about the age of all of my friends parents.  I have
already lost my dad and my mom is getting up in her years
and I am only 25, I just wish that we (my mom and me) were closer 
in age so that we could spend more time together in my later life.
This is selfish I know but what can I say.  This is also why
my husband and I decided to have children while I was young. 

Kathy T.
From: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Names (don't do this to your kids)
Date: 8 Oct 1992 21:21:36 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Distribution: world
Reply-To: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
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Originator: pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu


Then you could alwasys just skip naming your baby altogether and go 
with what its first legal designation is....

There is a woman scientist--I don't remember her specialty, but I 
believe she's a very bright graduate student, African-American, here 
in Houston, whose first name is Baby.

Paula Burch
pburch@bcm.tmc.edu
From: kaminski@netcom.com (Peter Kaminski)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Midwife info/Food and Fluids in Labour
Date: 7 Oct 92 08:02:25 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In <1992Oct6.203237.7968@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> cma@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (christine.m.dakes) writes:


>Is vomiting while in labor a given?  Does every woman throw up during
>labor?  Also heard that one's body eliminates wastes out of both
>ends while in labor.  True for everyone?  Is this the body's natural
>response, to get rid of foreign material in the body to have the most
>room in the body (stomach and intestines) for the actual pushing 
>and delivery?  Seems like a good theory to me....

>Christine
>mom-2-b in Jan. '93

Not once during my rather long labour did I feel the need to vomite.
Nothing during labour is a given!
I also did not eliminate wastes during my labour.
However, I had a good laugh when, after my son was born and the ob/gyn
was pressing on my belly to make sure all of the afterbirth was out,
my bladder felt this was a good time to open the floodgates and
(how to put this delicately) let's just say there was a deluge...
the biggest that the ob/gyn had ever seen (and he was by no means young)
and most of it... well, let's just say he *really* needed a shower and
fresh clothes afterwards.  
If he had not expressed his anger at the situation I never would have
known what my body had done (after having a baby pass through you, your
parts are rather confused and numb, to say the least).  I was not sad
that this happened;  he was the back-up doctor, and he turned out being
quite a jerk.

Johanne (posting from my husband's account)