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From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:15:46 GMT

In article <8309@lib.tmc.edu> jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
>In article <1993Jan02.200308.16355@eng.umd.edu> chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV) writes:
>>If you still can't deal with your
>>"great act of charity", then take your repeater down, and let someone else use
>>the allocation.  There are plenty of hams out there who would love to put up an
>>open repeater on your pair!
>
>Fortunately for reason, the FCC disagrees. I suggest you reread 97.205(e).

What does limiting user control of ancillary functions have to do with 
anything in this discussion?

Gary

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: rcving keps
From: fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie)
Date: 12 Jan 93 09:40:58 EST
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Distribution: world
Organization: NASA/Kennedy Space Center, Florida

In article <9301112220.AA40713@lamar.ColoState.EDU>,
lupine@lamar.colostate.edu (Kevin Moore) wrote:
> Would you please put me on the e-mail list for 2-line orbital elements?
> Also if you can, I would appreciate elements for as many satellites as possible,
> not just the ham sats.

Kevin-

I didn't know there was an e-mail list for the 2-line elements.  If you
have access to the anonymous ftp sites, look at archive.afit.af.mil, in the
/pub/space directory.  There are several files available, adding up to 10
or 20 K of data.  This data has usually been updated at least once a week,
and sometimes once a day.

73, Fred, K4DII

fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov
From: brian@ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Distinct Checks
Date: 7 Jan 1993 05:27:38 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

A SPARK GAP TRANSMITTER?

Arrgh!  Let's celebrate the FUTURE of ham radio, not the dead past!

Like maybe a satellite?
	- Brian
From: FLEM%athena@leia.polaroid.COM (SKIP FLEM, NT1G, 14X17 NEWTON-1M 617-630-4482)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 3rd hand soldering
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:41:00 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

I've never wished for three hands (while on land), but there are tricks
for soldering.
1) A bench vise. Holds connectors well. Keeps fingers cool. Particularly
for PL-259. Also good for the center pin of a BNC connector.
2) A good mechanical joint. A prerequisite for a good solder joint.
(As taught in NASA soldering school.) Unfortunately this may mean clinching
leads on a printed circuit board that makes desoldering of this component
more difficult. On DIPs I clinch Vcc and GND (or opposite corners).
On Surface mount I 'glue' the devise with warmed flux and hold it down
until it cools. Then I start soldering opposite ends, working around
the chip in the same direction. (Non-Reflow, only)
3) My favorite trick. Heat the larger (less delicate) of the two halves
until solder JUST starts to melt. Remove the iron and cram the solder
into the joint as to cool the joint rapidly, leaving the solder afixed
the the joint. (This is the part that takes practice.) Break the solder
with the iron tip ~1-2 cm. With hand #2 position second item on the solder
joint. Reheat the joint until the fresh solder flows freely.
73 de Skip, NT1G     Three most important rules for soldering:
                     Cleanliness, cleanliness and cleanliness. (NASA)
P.S. NEVER hold lead solder in your mouth! 
(They used to make a big deal about this all through out the class)

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: dul@cimtwo::kendul.enet.dec.com (cimtwo::kendul::dul)
Subject: Yaesu FT-1001 or FT-1005 coming???
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:48:01 GMT
X-Posted-Via: NEWS-NOTES gateway (a hack!)

    I over heard some 6's talking this morning on 20 meters and
    they said that Yaesu is coming out with an FT-1001 or FT-1005.
    
    Does anyone have any info or heard anything about these xcvrs ??
    
    Ken K8ZR
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 1200Mhz is not a microwave band?
From: fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie)
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:20:49 EST
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Distribution: world
Organization: NASA/Kennedy Space Center, Florida

In article <9301041945.aa10639@ingate.microsoft.COM>,
a-kevinp@microsoft.COM (Kevin Purcell, Rho) wrote:
> As I say above: 900 and 1200Mhz are not microwave bands. They are UHF bands.

Kevin-

Who says 1200 MHz isn't a microwave band?

There is currently a Motorola microwave system in use here at the Kennedy
Space Center, operating in the 900 MHz region.  It is used to provide
several voice channels between the Launch Control Center and the
Crawler/Transporters, while they travel between the VAB and the Pads.

The letter designations of microwave bands, such as L-Band, S-Band, et
cetera, includes the P-Band: 225-395 MHz!

By the way, these letter designations were apparently originated by the old
Sperry Electronic Tube division, when they arbitrarily chose them to
indicate the frequency range of their microwave tubes.  This was probably
over 40 years ago, before they moved to Florida.

73, Fred, K4DII

fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov

(Former Sperry employee!)
From: reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.com (Jim Reisert)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: QSL cards from SWLers (was Re: Ham transmissions-a hypothetical situation)
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:16:13 GMT
Reply-To: reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.com (Jim Reisert)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation -- Maynard, MA


In article <1icp0aINNmiv@transfer.stratus.com>, Faith Senie writes:

> What does one reply to a SWL card?

I fill out a regular QSL card to the SWL station with some minor
changes.  I change 'confirming QSO' to 'confirming SWL report'.  I
cross out the 2-way mode box (to indicate there was no 2-way QSO with
the listener).  I also add the callsign of the station I was working
at the time.

73 - Jim AD1C

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: ragee@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (Randy Agee)
Subject: TS-520 Mod for 30M?
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Richmond)
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 18:46:16 GMT

Does any one know of an article or have some experiece you
would share for converting the 40M band on a Kenwood 520 to 30M?

Any referrals would be greatly appreciated!


---
================================
Randy T. Agee - WB4BZX                    
Virginia Department of Education
Richmond, VA
ragee@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu
From: MROWEN%STLAWU.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu (Michael Owen W9IP)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: IC-275A/H Mods
Date: 4 Jan 93 13:32:03 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

I recently bought an IC-275H for use with satellites.  I wonder
if anyone could point me to information on the following two mods:

1)  The '275 already receives "out of band," from 138-174 MHz.
    I'd like to listen to weather satellites, so I need 136-138
    MHz coverage.  Any suggestions?

2)  How about 9600 baud?  I gather that most rigs need to have their
    filters widened and other tweaks so they'll perform well.  Who
    keeps a file on adjusting the '275?

This reminds me of my uncle Dan, W5AHC, a dyed-in-the-wool homebrewer
since the '40s.. Whenever I'd tell him
about this-or-that new rig that I acquired, he'd always ask immediately:
"Have you modified it yet?"  Finally, I'm beginning to understand why...

Michael Owen W9IP (a youngster despite the callsign)
MROWEN@STLAWU
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: adam@vermont.nynexst.com (Adam Epstein)
Subject: Wideband VHF/UHF Rx Antenna Info Wanted
Originator: adam@vermont
Organization: NYNEX Science & Technology
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 23:18:00 GMT


  A friend is shopping for a wideband receive antenna.  He's familiar
with the discone but he's interested in learning about other available
designs.  For instance, there are apparently several "active" antennae
offered by Diamond, Comet, and Austin.  (I assume that the term
"active" implies a preamp).  If you have suggestions regarding these
or other wideband receive antennae, he'd really appreciate hearing what
you have to say.  Email to me (adam@nynexst.com) and I'll forward your
comments.

 -Thanx
  -Adam (N2DHH)

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: niallp@ee.ubc.ca (niall parker)
Subject: Re: HELP ON ALINCO EP-2510 POWER SUPPLY
Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:48:50 GMT

In article <FOROZCO.93Jan11164420@dante.nmsu.edu> forozco@nmsu.edu (OROZCO) writes:
>
>  I need help getting the current "output" of the Alinco EP-2510 Power
>Supply.
>
> ... etc.
>

Why not just measure it? Just load it up until the voltage
regulation drops.

Light bulbs (automotive or household) make good loads for
DC supplies if you don't have a large enough power resistor.
Another trick is to submerge a low wattage power resistor in
water to increase its dissipation.

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From: bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: NASA Project Dante & Compressed Video?
Date: 5 Jan 93 13:47:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Department of Computing Sciences

In article <1993Jan4.191814.25568@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>, jeffj@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (jeffrey.n.jones) writes:
|> 
|> Along those same lines, I was floored to find out they were using a
|> cable to transmit commands to Dante. Seems like it would have been a whole 
|> lot easier to have had repeaters on the edge of the volcano and ran high 
|> speed packet to control the robot. Maybe as a ham these things occur to me.
|> 

Considering how much trouble they have had just keeping it's legs attached,
I can't imagine them keeping a high-speed packet network running.

And anyway, when the legs fall off again, they can always drag it back out
with the fiber-optic cable.   :-)  or is it :-(

bill    KB3YV

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jab0684@usl.edu (Boudreaux Jean A)
Subject: Alinco DR590 mobile extended receive
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 09:26:14 GMT

Hi, a friend of mine as well as the local civil defense center both have
Alinco 590 mobile units modfied for out of baNd receive.  The problem
is that while the Am air frequencies and 800 mhz will appear on the 
display, neither radio actually can receive them.  Is their a fix for
this?


thanks,
DE kb5udf
kb5udf@usl.edu

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: hdavies@rx.xerox.com (Hugh J.E. Davies)
Subject: Re: Need a 3rd hand for Soldering!?
Reply-To: hdavies@rx.xerox.com
Organization: Rank Xerox Ltd.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 09:35:32 GMT

In article 20042@news.columbia.edu, hyx1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Harry Y Xu) writes:
>I always feel like my 2 hands are not enough when soldering.
>1 hand holds the soldering iron;
>1 holds the solder;
>another hand is needed to hold the component, or the pliers that hold the
>component to prevent over-heating.
>
>Does anyone have a smart solution?
>
>Tnx for the time,
>Harry Xu     | "The belief in a supernatural source of evil is not necessary;
>(KB2LHA/AG)  |  men alone are quite capable of every wickedness." --J. Conrad


Harry,

Buy some heavy wire, like that used to wire up cookers, cut 2 or 3 short lengths, fasten a crocodile clip onto one end of each piece of wire. Take a small piece of wood and drill a number of holes in one face. Push the other ends of the pieces of wire into the holes (sorry about the description, but I'm sure you get the idea). Voila, a third (and fourth, fifth, etc.) hand for soldering. I usually grip the piece of wood in a small bench vice in use to stop it falling over at vital moments.
---


Regards,

Hugh, G0CNR.
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Subject: Re: FCC Amateur Licensing and $$$
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:52:21 GMT

Scott Richard Rosenfeld writes:
> The FCC doesn't get any money from amateur licensing because hams are a
> "National Resource."

Sorry to burst your bubble, but dropping ham licensing fees
had absolutely nothing to do with hams or their value to the
community.  A ruling made it illegal for the Federal government
to charge fees for any license it issues, not just ham tickets.  Ham
radio is of virtually no interest to the FCC; they're really concerned
with big communications networks, broadcasters, etc.  They hardly
ever even notice ham radio, and when they do, it's to figure out ways
to make us go away.  You're right, though, that our long term best 
interests are well served by continuing the ham traditions of public
service and adherence to regulations.

Mike, N4PDY

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* These are my opinions only.*
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Organization: very little
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 04:03:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.005747.7633@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> laborde@oak.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Gregory R. LaBorde) writes:
>In article <1993Jan02.060703.6610@ssc.com> tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook) writes:
>>
>>Jammer idiots in LA have tried to use this arguement to justify
>>their antics on 2 meters and have lost every time.
>
>The difference is that they are interfering with QSOs in progress. We are
>discussing transmissions on the input of a repeater that is not in use, if
>I am not mistaken?
>

HUH??  I must be mistaken then.  I thought SURE that I was responding to
someone who was advocating operating simplex on top of the input of a
live, coordinated repeater....merely because it was not "open".

>
>


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From: pp@wsinti01.info.win.tue.nl (Peter Peters)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: baycom interface
Summary: The interface of the l2 TSR used with baycom
Keywords: l2, baycom
Date: 11 Jan 93 10:46:20 GMT
Reply-To: pp@info.win.tue.nl

Hi,

Can anybody tell me if there is a description of the interface that
the TSR program "l2" uses. This TSR is used in the baycom packet radio
program. I suppose interfacing is done using interrupts.
I don't know if this interface is available, and would appreciate
some pointers, or at least to be sure of the program interface
availability.

Peter.


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From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ICOM-725 Info. (was ICOM-726)
Date: 9 Jan 93 02:04:04 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

gallaghe@gdc.com (Robert Gallagher) writes:


>I previously posted a request for info on the ICOM IC-726, after thinking 
>about this for a while I realized that the IC-725 is the same radio with
>out the 50MHz band therefore, if anyone has any inforamtion on the IC-725
>or knows of any FTP sites for any ICOM related infomation please e-mail
>it to me.

I would say that the 725 is a pretty good value for the money.
Its main disadvantage in mobile use is that its noise limiter
does not work on AM.  That's a problem if you want to work AM
on 10m or listen to shortwave.  However, the way the frequency
readout and control is set up, it is nearly ideal for mobile
work.  I also have the AH-3 automatic tuner.  The two together,
along with an 8-foot whip for 10m, make a very nice, easy-to-use
mobile setup for 10m through 80m.

The rig does not have Passband tuning or a notch filter, so 
getting rid of QRM is nearly impossible.  For mobile work, I don't
fool around with those controls anyway.  For base station work,
though, it is a problem not to have them.  This rig will not
cut the mustard if you want to work contests.

If you want a base station, I would spend a little extra money
for a 735.   The 735 is generally regarded as the best of the
low-end rigs.  I have both, and I certainly prefer the 735.

73 DE KK6MY 

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From: flbbs!larry.mittman@ncoast.ORG (Larry Mittman) 
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Need a 3rd hand for S
Date: 10 Jan 93 18:56:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Fleet BBS (216) 646-0655 24 hrs DUAL STD
Reply-To: flbbs!larry.mittman@ncoast.ORG (Larry Mittman) 

 On 01-06-93 SCOTT RICHARD ROSENFELD wrote to ALL... 
 
 SR> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc 
 SR> From: ham@wam.umd.edu (Scott Richard Rosenfeld) 
 SR> Subject: Re: Need a 3rd hand for Soldering!? 
 SR> Message-ID: <1993Jan5.125614.18523@wam.umd.edu> 
 SR> Keywords: question 
 SR> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 12:56:14 GMT 
 SR>  
 SR> In article <1993Jan4.222522.20042@news.columbia.edu> 
 SR> hyx1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Harry Y Xu) writes: 
 SR> >I always feel like my 2 hands are not enough when soldering. 
 SR> >1 hand holds the soldering iron; 
 SR> >1 holds the solder; 
 SR> >another hand is needed to hold the component, or the pliers that hold 
 SR> the 
 SR> >component to prevent over-heating. 
 SR> > 
 SR> >Does anyone have a smart solution? 
 SR>  
 SR> Yup.  Get yourself a table-top vise.  Nice, free-standing, with a 
 SR> heavily  
 SR> weighted base.  If you have a workbench that you can drill into, your  
 SR> choices are very broad.  As for where to go to get it: 
 SR>  
 SR> You can probably pick up something Craftsman at Sears, or something 
 SR> else 
 SR> at the local hardware store.  There's also a company in California 
 SR> called 
 SR> Jameco that sells stuff like tools, breadboards, and irons, that would 
 SR> probably sell a bench-type vise. 
 SR>  
 SR> Scott 
 SR> NF3I 
 SR>  
You can also get "The Third Hand" from Radio Shack. This is a 
table-top devise with adjustable clips for holding PC boards 
at any angle and freeing your hands for soldering. 
 
 
... OFFLINE 1.42 * Here's a partial score:  Cleveland 10 
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Cq Rtty experts...
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 22:34:19 -0600

Joe writes,

JC>   I built a RTTY demod and wrote a simple prog to read the
JC>serial port so I could copy RTTY on my PC. Unfortunately, most
JC>RTTY is baudot (5 bit) and not the 8 bit ACII which I can copy.
JC>   If anyone has a source code ( C or BASIC) or algorithm or
JC>even a few ideas on how to copy baudot with a PC using a simple demod,
JC>I'd be very grateful if I could procure same.

Joe, find a copy of the program HAMCOM, that will do it.

73 de Claton Cadmus,  KA0GKC

Packet:         KA0GKC @ WB0GDB.MN.USA.NA
Fido Netmail:   Claton Cadmus  1:282./100
Internet Email: Claton.Cadmus@f100.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com

 * SLMR 2.1a * It's cold in Minnesota!


Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: bwilkins@iat.holonet.net (Bob Wilkins n6fri)
Subject: Re: CTCSS 
Organization: the cAVe group
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 02:32:13 GMT

eri316@tijc02.uucp (Ed Ingraham) writes:
: 
: If two stations transmit at the same time on the input of a repeater,
: one with the CTCSS which the repeater uses and one without, what comes out
: of the repeater transmitter?
: 
: If the CTCSS signal is stronger, he comes through. Otherwise, nothing. Right?
 
That is right.  CTCSS is not a cure all ... its use is to mask nuisence
interference from a distant repeater user on the same frequency. Our best
high level open repeaters run CTCSS for this reason. 

-- 
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bwilkins@holonet.net          packet n6fri @ w6pw.#nocal.ca.usa.na
From: tremmel@iraul1.ira.uka.de (Wolfgang &)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Wanted: Kenwood TH-48 mod
Date: 6 Jan 1993 08:11:21 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Comp. Sc. Dept., FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: iraul1.ira.uka.de
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


Hi!
Does anybody have mods oder 'Software-Tricks' for
the Kenwood TH-48?

Tnx!

73, Wolfgang DH2PAF
From: little@nuts2u.enet.dec.com (nuts2u::little)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: On private repeaters
Date: 12 Jan 93 09:29:29 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Posted-Via: NEWS-NOTES gateway (a hack!)

jreese@NeoSoft.com (Jim Reese) writes:

>Oh, so it's OK to operate simplex on someone's repeater input, but not in the
>SSB and CW bands...I get it...

The FCC restricts the first 100 KHz of the 6 meter and 2 meter bands to CW. 
The rest of the VHF/UHF bands are only governed by the band plans which are
a "gentleman's agreement", i.e. strongly suggested, but not legislated. 

This whole argument essentially boils down to:

1 Some things the FCC regulates
2 Some things are up to the amateur radio community to self govern
3 Most of the replies here indicate an unwillingness to understand or bother 
  to learn the difference

73,
Todd
N9MWB
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jeffj@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (jeffrey.n.jones)
Subject: Re: Format of Code Exams?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:59:01 GMT

In article <1787@necis.UUCP> rbono@necis.UUCP (Rich) writes:
>
> This was for all code speeds: 5 Wpm, 13 Wpm and 20 Wpm!
>
> I don't have actual statistics, but it really did seem that there were
>more failures with the multiple choice.
>
> My feeling is that if you can copy the code, then there is not a big
>difference in the testing method used.  Unless you get your heart set on
>a particular exam style, then get upset when that is not what you are tested
>with.
>
> I would like to hear other's thoughts on this.  Maybe a scientific study
>would provide some interesting results.

Here's my own results from taking the CW tests;

5 WPM:  Got 25+ letters in a row in a couple of places. Didn't have a clue
        on any of the multiple choice questions. 

13 WPM: Passed 7 out of 10 on multiple choice test. Would have failed fill
        in the blanks.

20 WPM: Passed, I believe, 10 out of 10 correct on multiple choice test as
        I wasn't told results only that I passed. Would have passed fill
        in the blanks ( I think). 8-)

I believe that multiple choice is easier as at least you have a chance of
guessing right and believe you me, I tried when I miserably flunked the
13 WPM the first time. 8-)

73 and Happy New Year

Jeff
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