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From: wirta@convex1.tcs.tulane.edu (john wirta)
Subject: Re: Necronomicon
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Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:41:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.105555.25235@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>wirta@convex1.tcs.tulane.edu (john wirta) writes:
>: >
>: And if you see the future of others?  Are you seeing incontrovertible fact,
>: or is it just a possibility.  And if it is just a possibility would you
>: notice a change in what you had seen?
>: 
>: I have to ask that question because I _do_ see the future of all things
>: around me.  The things I see are never wrong.  I look and I see each
>: thread of everything in the world, how each is integral in every other
>: interaction and how _impossible_ it is to truly make a choice except for a
>: very few threads in the entire fabric of things.  Most seeming choices seem
>: to have already been decided by the actions and interactions of everything 
>: around them.  As I have said, however there are a few points along many of the
>: threads where the thread splits, and as the moment in time of that split
>: approaches, one of the branchings fades out of existance, again leaving only
>: one path.
>
>Ok. Now, what happens of circumstances change and, because of this, the future
>changes for the individual. Would you be aware of this? Or, would your vision
>of the future change - without your being aware of it changing?
>
>Bill
I would be unaware of the change in circumstances, but would still see how the
future lay.  I would not be unaware if the timelines started changing, I have
seen them change in a few instances.  But during those times, someone had
been going into the past to change an event, and it severely changed the
present timelines.  A change in circumstances involving me might very well
make me unaware that there was any change in the timelines, but it is only
speculation because I can't know one way or the other.

		--Enki


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From: craig@cattnts.canada.ncr.com (Craig Campbell)
Newsgroups: alt.magick
Subject: Re: Women vs Men
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:36:28 GMT
Organization: AT&T / NCR Canada Ltd., Toronto, Canada

In article <JOSHUA.92Nov2110000@bailey.cpac.washington.edu> joshua@cpac.washington.edu (Joshua Geller) writes:

>In article <lfamk8INNrn0@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:

>.   [....]
>>   since the baby has been born I'm lucky to read one book a month and the
>>   list is growing much faster than that.


>this is the reality behind castanedan talk of holes in the aura, the
>left-hand tantrik avoidance of pregnancy, and much other denigration
>of parenthood by many magickal traditions. children are parasites: they
>suck about 15 - 20 years out of your life (more intensely, perhaps, to
>mothers than fathers). whatever you were doing before, stops, and
>the child becomes the center of your existence.

>josh

If this were in deed 'reality', then why do women tend to live longer than 
men?  (Or mothers longer than fathers?)

craig
-- 
Craig Campbell		|	These opinions are entirely the result of a 
Systems Engineer	|	small butterfly crashing into the far side
NCR Canada,		|	of the planet.  Chaos Rules.
an AT&T Company		|	I speak for no one, except, possibly, myself.
From: wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Various things
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:29:52 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1992Nov8.042646.10166@news.columbia.edu>, gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener) writes:
> a) The other day, I was talking about a technical design with someone,
> and they referred to the pending patent on the device.  However, his
> pronunciation of "patent" rhymed with "latent."  I've never heard the
> word "patent" pronounced any way other than with the first syllable
> pronounced like the name "pat."  Has anyone else encountered "patent"
> prounounced with the long a?
> 
Just a short hop across the Atlantic and you'll find it. Maybe not everywhere,
but you'll find it.


-- 

Stephen Wilcox             |   For Sale: Posts in British Government. Suit
wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk    |   outgoing American. Highest bids accepted.
From: sfriedman@pbs.org (Dr. Freddy Strange, Sr., M.A. )
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: mnemonics in general
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:45:18 GMT
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

In article <29OCT199216261065@adpdp2.lanl.gov>, 108116@adpdp2.lanl.gov (108116) writes:
> Ok guys!  What mnemonics do you all know? 

One I made up for Music Theory in Grade 8, 25 years ago:

`Father Calvin Got Drunk At Eddie's Bar' 

   #
#
      #
    #
  #
       #
     #
 		(I still have to use it!)  :-)
-- 
<<<<<sfriedman@pbs.org     ...{uupsi,vrdhxq,csed-1,ida.org}!pbs!sfriedman!>>>>>
<I'm S. Friedman, p/k/a Freddy. Don't blame my employer; it's not responsible.> 
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Avoid contact with eyes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: hermit@cats.UCSC.EDU (William R. Ward)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: a good dictionary
Date: 6 Nov 92 06:58:20
Organization: Computing and Telecommunications Services, UCSC
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In-reply-to: mcoffin@IASTATE.EDU's message of Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:00:08 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.150008@IASTATE.EDU>, mcoffin@IASTATE.EDU (Marie Coffin) writes:
) I know I'm going to regret asking this, but in what dictionary did you find
) "noone" as one word?

Prescriptivist!!!!!

We don't need no steenkin' dictionary!

(Okay, it was late at night and I was trying to think of examples...)
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From: dgreen@thor (David Greenebaum)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: floating and sinking
Date: 13 Nov 1992 20:10:34 GMT
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In article <1992Nov8.2040.215@ALMAC> shakib.otaqui@almac.co.uk writes:
>DT>   Also, has anyone ever gotten a long shrift?
>
>  No, and I'm far from gruntled about it.
>
>  Shakib
>
Shrift is forgiveness, as in what follows after confession.  If
your confessor gives you a short shrift, maybe he wasn't paying
much attention to your confession.  (Or maybe you're not that
much of a sinner...:)

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From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Various things
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:33:30 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Nov8.042646.10166@news.columbia.edu> gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener) writes:
>Has anyone else encountered "patent"
>prounounced with the long a?

Never.

>b) What areas of the U.S. still call carbonated beverages "pop" and
>not "soda" ?

Well, this isn't the U.S. -- but my Canadian boyfriend calls it "pop."  So
do my Michigander parents.  Must be all that cold air.





-- 
The trick of reason is to get the imagination to seize the actual world --
if only from time to time.     -- Annie Dillard, "An American Childhood"
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From: paul.burnett@pcs.sj.ca.us (Paul Burnett) 
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Have X, will trav
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:23:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: PCS-BBS - San Jose, CA - 408-270-4085
Reply-To: paul.burnett@pcs.sj.ca.us (Paul Burnett) 

TO: mcoffin@IASTATE.EDU (Marie Coffin)


  >> And if you look up "paladin", it comes from a chivalrous knight of the
  >> Middle Ages, who in turn is based on a Roman palace guard - folks who
  >> "had sword, would travel."  It's not exactly from the 1950's; it's over
  >> 2,000 years old.

MC>Paul, what is your point here?  The word "paladin" may have roots
  >going back 2000 years, but that tells us nothing about the phrase
  >"have X, will travel", which I believe is an artifact of the 20th
  >century.

I have rummaged further through my limited home library and my limited
memory <G> - I recall the phrase was used by Charlemagne's knights
("paladins") who traveled the countryside, righting wrongs.

MC>Incidentally, Robert Heinlein wrote a novel in 1957 entitled _Have
  >Spacesuit, Will Travel_.  This would seem to indicate that the phrase
  >was common parlance at the time.

It was - remember Paladin's business card had a chess-piece on it?  It
was a knight.  Heinlein's not available for questioning - maybe his wife
Virginia can help us.  <G>
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Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Subject: Re: Various things
Reply-To: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:35:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.031832.10973@oracorp.com> harper@oracorp.com (Douglas Harper) writes:
>
>Here's another word whose initial vowel is usually shortened in the
>U.S.:  "lived", as in "short-lived".

Not everywhere.  This new yorker says "short-lived" with the long I.


--
Gabe Wiener - Columbia Univ.     "This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings 
gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu       to be seriously considered as a means of 
N2GPZ in ham radio circles        communication. The device is inherently of
72355,1226 on CI$                 no value to us." -Western Union memo, 1877
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: plu@math.psu.edu (Todd Andrew Simpson)
Subject: Re: mnemonics in general
Organization: Penn State Department of Mathematics
	<1992Nov9.043447.5968@dg-rtp.dg.com>
	<1992Nov10.122923.25536@black.ox.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:54:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.122923.25536@black.ox.ac.uk> microsoc@black.ox.ac.uk (Microsoc) writes:
   In article <1992Nov9.043447.5968@dg-rtp.dg.com> cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy) writes:

   >OK, I don't *think* I'm stupid, but how does one use "God, I need a drink"
   >to remember 3.14159?

   Count the number of letters in each word....

   Again, it can't be a good mnemonic since I can't remember it, but isn't it
   something like 
   "God, I need a drink (alcoholic of course) after that heavy
   lecture involving Quantum Mechanics?" 
   (Would give 3.14159265457979... is that right, anyone?)

Must be the wrong mnemonic.  It should be 3.141592653589793...  Maybe
`the heavy lectures' instead of `that heavy lecture'?  (That's a
problem with this mnemonic - if you don't remember it word-for-word,
you can't get pi right; also, if you can't spell the words, you'll get
into trouble.... But 3.14159265457979 is close enough for most purposes,
I should imagine.)

- T.A.S.
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Ceci n'est pas une signature
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: buchs@solo (Kevin J. Buchs)
Subject: definition of im- prefix
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Reply-To: buchs@mayo.edu
Organization: University of Arizona MIS Department - Mosaic Group
Distribution: usa
Date: 13 Nov 1992 08:24 -0700

I was looking up a new word recently in my Websters 9th New Collegiate
Dictionary and I got side-tracked with the im- prefix on the word.   This
dictionary has two separate entries for the in-/im-/il-/ir- prefix family.  The
first is: NOT, and the second is: IN, WITHIN, INTO, TOWARD, or ON.  These seem
to be nearly opposite meanings.  Are there some finer rules as far as the
application of these prefixes that would help me know which meaning is the one
intended?   Please email and I'll summarize.


Kevin Buchs        Mayo Foundation, 200 1st St SW
buchs@mayo.edu     Rochester, MN 55905
From: TSOS@uni-duesseldorf.de (Detlef Lannert)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: I before E rule
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 07:40:20 GMT
Organization: Universitaetsrechenzentrum, Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet, Duesseldorf
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In article <1992Nov6.140630.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au> ccjal@cc.newcastle.edu.au (John A Lambert) writes:

>In article <1992Nov3.201605.14865@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>, jwagner@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Joseph F. Wagner) writes:
>> Everyone remebers the rule: "I before E except after C and in the case of A
>> like in weigh and neighbor." 
>> 
>> Well, there is a third part to this little rhyme that talks about exceptions
>> like leisure. If anyone can mail me the entire rule, I will be eternally
>> indebted to you. Please mail me as I don't read this group and, as always,
>> thanks in advance.
>> 
>> 
>> Joe
>-- 
>The rule as I learned it 55 or so years ago was `I before E when the sound is
>ee.'
>
>That handles neighbor and weigh; the way we pronounce leisure here (lezha) it
>also handles that case.

I still don't see how this rule covers cases like 'seize': The sound is
'ee' (in my book), and the first letter is definitely not a 'c'.
(With words like 'siege' being around, I doubt that there is an easy way
to mend the rule.)
--
Detlef Lannert      DC3EK      E-Mail: tsos@rz.uni-duesseldorf.de
"Gedanken sind nicht stets parat,
man schreibt auch, wenn man keine hat."             Wilhelm Busch
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Date: Sat,  7 Nov 1992 13:35:07 -0500 
From: "Benjamin D. Lukoff" <bl2m+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: OED online?

Excerpts from netnews.alt.usage.english: 7-Nov-92 OED online? by Tommy
Che Vorst@ccu.uman 
>  
> Does anybody know where I can find the OED online, and how to use it?
> Much appreciated.

telnet uwin.u.washington.edu. Then follow the instructions.
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The program is over, but the account lives on........
From: dgreen@thor (David Greenebaum)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: vowelless syllables
Date: 13 Nov 1992 19:51:47 GMT
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Distribution: usa
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In article <vy_q_--@SantaFe.edu> meyer@sfi.santafe.edu (Thomas P. Meyer) writes:
>How about cwm and crwth of Welsh origin?

No good--in Welsh, w is a vowel.

>:-}

--David
From: casseres@apple.com (David Casseres)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: What is wrong with "rule of thumb" ?
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:53:33 GMT
Followup-To: alt.usage.english
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.

In article <1992Nov2.160251.29355@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com>,
lange@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Alex Lange) wrote:
> I would strike "rule of thumb" not out of any hypersensitivity to
> women's issues, but simply because the phrase is hackneyed, worn-out,
> overused, dull, cliche, and so on.

Then what would you use in its place?  I find it the only quick,
universally understood term for a body of "folk engineering" knowledge that
is of great use to me every day.

By the way, I was startled to learn the (long forgotten) origin of the
phrase; I had though it came from the "rule" that the last joint of a
person's thumb is about one inch long.

--

David Casseres
Exclaimer: Wow!
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: asimov@wk223.nas.nasa.gov (Daniel A. Asimov)
Subject: Re: Derivation of "wonk"
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, California
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 19:39:00 GMT

In article <1dpfueINNo4m@agate.berkeley.edu> dgreen@thor (David Greenebaum) writes:
>Daniel A. Asimov quotes Ted B Samsel:
>>>
>>>I like this word WONK. As in  policy WONK. Any ideas on the
>>>derivations thereof?
>>>-- 
>>>Ted....
>>
>>Possibly relevant is that, when I was a student in the Boston area
>>1964-68, "wonk" was a term used at Harvard and Radcliffe for a person
>>who spent a lot of time studying.  It was said to come from the word
>>"know" spelled backwards.
>>
>>--Daz
>>
>I dunno how _relevant_ it is, but the usage was still current (or
>else revived) in the late 1980's.  
>
	[...]
>
> David Greenebaum		 University of California/Berkeley, CA

National Public Radio had a piece on Nov. 10 in which the editor of the
Oxford American Dictionary discussed "wonk."  He said his earliest citation
was from Sports Illustrated in 1962.  (He also mentioned the backwards "know"
theory and seemed to think it was spurious.)

Can anyone cite an earlier use of this word?

--Daz
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Subject: Re: Various things
Reply-To: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:21:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.190516.17852@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com> evan@hpl.hp.com (Evan Kirshenbaum) writes:
>
>In Chicago, a "soda" is an ice cream drink with flavored syrup and
>carbonation.  (Coke, etc. are "pop".)  My dad found out that this
>wasn't universal when he stopped in a drugstore in (I believe)
>Pennsylvania and asked for a "chocolate soda".  He wasn't pleased with
>what they gave him :-).  (There, you have to ask for an "ice cream
>soda".)

In New York, "a soda" would refer to a glass/can/bottle/whatever of
Coke, Pepsi, whatever.  "Soda" would refer to the stuff in general
"We're running out of soda."  If you want a drink made from ice cream,
seltzer, milk, and chocolate syrup, you have to ask for an Ice Cream
Soda, or in New York, a "black & white."

>On as similar topic, "pop" for me was always a mass noun:  we would
>ask for "pop" or "some pop" or "a glass/bottle of pop".  My sophomore
>roommate was from Cleveland, and he used "pop" as a count noun.  He
>would offer me "a pop".  (To the extent that it was meaningful in my
>dialect, this would have meant one of those hard candies on a stick.
>The disc-shaped ones were "suckers", but the spherical ones could be
>"pops".)

The candies on a stick are always "lollipops" here.  "A pop" refers to
either a large explosive sound, or ice cream served on a stick.  
Lollipops are either disc-shaped or spherical.


--
Gabe Wiener - Columbia Univ.     "This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings 
gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu       to be seriously considered as a means of 
N2GPZ in ham radio circles        communication. The device is inherently of
72355,1226 on CI$                 no value to us." -Western Union memo, 1877
From: paul.burnett@pcs.sj.ca.us (Paul Burnett) 
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Have X, will trav
Date: 8 Nov 92 07:58:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: PCS-BBS - San Jose, CA - 408-270-4085
Reply-To: paul.burnett@pcs.sj.ca.us (Paul Burnett) 

TO: greg.grainger@rose.com (greg grainger)


GG>There was a television program from the late fifties called 'Palladin', in
  >which the protagonist (who was a kind of good-guy gunfighter) had a
  >business card which read 'Have gun. Will travel.'

And if you look up "paladin", it comes from a chivalrous knight of the
Middle Ages, who in turn is based on a Roman palace guard - folks who
"had sword, would travel."  It's not exactly from the 1950's; it's over
2,000 years old.
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From: clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: One Who Loves to Travel
Date: 13 Nov 92 06:40:17 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Does anyone know a word for this?  "ohdophile" comes to mind,
but I can't locate it in either NI2, NI3, or the OED.  A more
general search of the OED CD-ROM came up with nothing, also.
-- 
Chris Long, 265 Old York Rd., Bridgewater, NJ  08807-2618
From: watson@madvax.uwa.oz.au (David Watson)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Have X, will trav
Date: 11 Nov 1992 00:40:12 GMT
Organization: Maths Dept UWA
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Nov8.175029@IASTATE.EDU>, mcoffin@IASTATE.EDU (Marie Coffin) writes:
|> In article <651.18.uupcb@pcs.sj.ca.us>, paul.burnett@pcs.sj.ca.us (Paul Burnett)
|> writes:
|>                                                     
|> Paul, what is your point here?  The word "paladin" may have roots 
|> going back 2000 years, but that tells us nothing about the phrase 
|> "have X, will travel", which I believe is an artifact of the 20th 
|> century.
|> 
|> Incidentally, Robert Heinlein wrote a novel in 1957 entitled _Have
|> Spacesuit, Will Travel_.  This would seem to indicate that the phrase
|> was common parlance at the time.  
|> 
|> 
|> Marie Coffin

and a not uncommon phrase applied to a hotrod pickup truck was
"Halfton, will travel"
-- 
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From: gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: scrabble boredom
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:33:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.073532.27523@news.eng.convex.com> tchrist@convex.COM (Tom Christiansen) writes:
:Looking at a scrabble board you see funny things... like 
:the fact that "debugger" and "begrudge" are but rearrangements
:of each other.

I don't begrudge you one of them but if you try to play the
other in a competition you're buggered :-)

G (wondering if Kay won't be able to resist this one either...)
--
From: paul.burnett@pcs.sj.ca.us (Paul Burnett) 
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: "Taiwan" and "Thailand"
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:42:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: PCS-BBS - San Jose, CA - 408-270-4085
Reply-To: paul.burnett@pcs.sj.ca.us (Paul Burnett) 

Is it just a coincidence, or is there some common linguistic root
connecting the "tai" in Taiwan" and the "thai" in "Thailand"?
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From: roger@crux.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Things go better with cola-flavored soft drinks
Date: 13 Nov 92 22:00:10 GMT
Reply-To: roger@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig)
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <97508@netnews.upenn.edu> crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:
>In article <Bxnx3p.3w1@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tdlg9831@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tracey Dianne Layng) writes:
>>Yes, Coke is a trademark, but people will say it anyway. It's just like
>>kleenex. Kleenex is a trademark, but I never hear people say "Give me a facial
>>tissue." 

Some people do say "tissue."  "Facial" seems excessive, though...

>Or:  "I think I'll have some more of that cherry-flavored gelatin dessert."

In England, it's just "jelly."

>Or:  "I have a hangnail.  Do you have any self-adhesive plastic bandages?"

Brandnamed in other languages, too.  Leukoplast in German...household
glue is Uhu in German, too.

Some people xerox, others copy.

>On the other hand, I was surprised to hear my British friends talk about
>"hoovering" the living room floor.  

Imagine the struggle to get them to switch over from Bisseling it!

Roger