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From: ylq@lems23lems.brown.edu (Yan Shen)
Subject: Re: Interesting Picture
Organization: Laboratory for Engineering Man/Machine Systems
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:33:41 GMT

In article <3989@creatures.cs.vt.edu>, zhang@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Yaoen Zhang) writes:
|> A very interesting picture ( 4 parts ) is posted.  You may
|> guess what the title is.  After you see the picture, I will
|> tell you where I got it and what its name is.
|> 
|> Note: how decode the pic:
|> 
|> 1. remove the headers from each part.
|> 2. cat part1 part2 part3 part4 | uudecode 
|>  
|> That's it.  
|> 
|> Zhang YaoEn


title: "the fragrance of condom." 

maybe my perception is off the mark on this one.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: mlibucha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Libucha)
Subject: Re: Did Jesus practice qi gong?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 04:53:28 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.181800.10776@newsgate.sps.mot.com> dwong@chopsuey.pico writes:
>In article 6000@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, mlibucha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Libucha) writes:


>
>>And by qi gong, I mean the same types of things: curing people with terminal
>>diseases, jumping from the ground onto the top of a three story building,
>>seeing thru walls of concrete two feet thick, etc.
>>
>

...section deleted

>
>Too bad I have not seen nor heard of your claims of qi gong.

...section deleted

	You mean to say you haven't heard that the qi gong practioners are
practicing "healing"? Curing sick people with the touch of the hand? There
have been numerous articles in the Chinese press about the government's
attempts to crack down on this practice recently.

Mark



Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: lujin@oracorp.com (Jin Lu)
Subject: Re: Toycott Update 1/4/93
Organization: ORA Corporation, Ithaca, New York
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:40:34 GMT

Dear Toycott People,

I, for one, really don't like the idea of toycott.
There are so many things around the world that need attension, Somali,
Balkan.  If you are realy worried about human rights, how about doing 
something for those people suffering in those troubling places.
On the other hand, what is wrong with buying toys made in China.
I never buy the idea that all toys made in China are made by inmates.
Boycotting toys made in China will not only hurt the law-abiding
Chinese people who make those toys, but also hurt American people
who have already beet hit hard without the toycott.

Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:34145 soc.culture.indian:43245
From: a74k110@phobos.ucc.umass.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Religious conflict in India
Date: 8 Jan 93 00:25:29 GMT
Reply-To: a74k110@phobos.ucc.umass.edu
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
X-Posted-From: phobos.ucc.umass.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1993Jan7.172337.13478@bnr.ca>, uipooper@bcars123.bnr.ca (UI Pooper 2) writes...
>Ref: Dim Soon Lien comments of Budhism & China		
> 
>Perhaps Lord Budha should come back to India and bring peace
>and harmony to the people of the sub-continent. Did you know
>the biggest monolithic statue of the Budha is located in Afghanistan.
>J.Singh

Not to be picky, but the biggest monolithic statue of this man is the newly
erected one in Hyderbad, India.

-Venkat
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li)
Subject: Re: Qi Gong experiment from QingHua Univ., Beijing
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:31:55 GMT

In article <93004.122522IO11043@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> Robert Pan <IO11043@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>
>Many of those Qi Gong experiments may be considered the highest national
>secreats. There was a research group at Tsinhua University called

I wish China would not rely on Qi Gong for its defense. This
reminds the novel "Jing4 Yang2 Qiu1" in which "Hongqianghui"
people shouted "Dao1 Qiang1 Bu2 Ru4!" marching forward. Still they
all got shot :-).
Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:34224 soc.culture.hongkong:16907 soc.culture.taiwan:16858 talk.politics.china:3612
From: ylq@lems22lems.brown.edu (Yan Shen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan,talk.politics.china
Subject: Re:
Date: 8 Jan 1993 20:31:01 GMT
Organization: Laboratory for Engineering Man/Machine Systems
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.148.16.121

In article ,  writes:
|> In article <1993Jan7.223651.24288@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> fswmto@walleye.lerc.nasa.gov (Wai-Ming To) writes:
|> >
|> >   The following article, written by Nicholas D. Kristof for the New
|> >York Times on 1/6/1993, is about cannibalism in Guangxi Province during
|> >the Cultural Revolution in the late 60's. A portion of the Chinese
|> >official document on the cannibalism was also pictured on the paper.
|> >The New York Times also ran a story on Mr. Zheng Yi, the prominent
|> >dissident who smuggled these documents out of China.
|> >
|>   This kind of crazy stories can only be heared in those crazy years of
							    ^^^^^^
|> culture revolution, it's surprising we can heared it now in the US.

Are you the one who eulogized Chairman Mao and CR a few days ago with those 
lavish words ? glad to see you have acknowledged those CR years are crazy.
From: yin@engr.latech.edu (Gang Yin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Looking for Zhu,zaofeng
Date: 9 Jan 1993 23:38:40 GMT
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
Distribution: world
Reply-To: yin@engr.latech.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: me06.latech.edu

Summary: 
Keywords: 

I have a friend whose name is Zhu,zaofeng. He came from Nanjing Institute of Chemical 
Technology. He came US in 1990 and should be a Ph.D student in University of New Maxico . But I missed him for a long time. If anyone knows him or any information about him,
Please send e-mail at the following address : 

yin@engr.latech.edu

I appreciate your help.
From: xue@masg1.epfl.ch (Xinjian Xue)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Shanghai Univ. of Tech.
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:16:16 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

Hi,
You are from Shanghai University of Technology?
Please e-mail me.
I am from Dept. of Electrical Engineering.

Talk yu late.

Xinjian XUE
Dept. of Mathe.
Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (EPFL)
tel. +41-21-693.2506
fax. +41-21-693.4303
e-mail: xue@masg22.epfl.ch
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xzhu@uahcs2.cs.uah.edu (Xiaowu Zhu)
Subject: (none)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 04:08:49 GMT

this is a test.
From: dliu@ark.njit.edu (Dong Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Does Fudan Univ in Shanghai have internet access?
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:02:15 GMT
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, NJIT
X-News-Reader: GNUS 3.14.1 for GNU Emacs 18.59.5

>>>>> On 6 Jan 93 07:12:45 GMT, jturley@netcom.com (Jim Turley) said:

Jim> Can someone tell me just why only one Univ has access to the net in 
Jim> China...Seems unbelievable...    

Jim> Would love to hear from any CCP guys that can defend this state of
Jim> affairs.

Just FYI, TCP/IP is not an international standard, so it is very
reasonable for China to choose OSI but not Internet (based on TCP/IP).

BTW, only Qing Hua U. has access to Internet is a rumor, as I know
some institutes and companies has access to Internet, US Sprint also
provides commercial Email service in Shanghai and Beijing, networking in
China is a very rapid developing business.

--
Dong Liu  <dliu@ace.njit.edu>
Electrical and Computer Engineering Department
New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, NJ 07102
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: machang@llewella.uchicago.edu (Andrew C. Chang)
Subject: Re: Chinese Embassy -- Chicago
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:55:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.225825.3049@cnsvax.uwec.edu> wangw@cnsvax.uwec.edu  
writes:
> Hello, folks!
> 
> Could anyone kindly tell me the address and the phone # of Chinese
> Embassy in Chicago?  I am in badly need of them.  Please either e-mail  
me or
> post here--they may be valuable to others too. 
> 
> Thanks a lot in advance.  Have a wonderful Chinese New Year!
> 
> 
> wangw@cnsvax.uwec.edu
>  

The phone numbers of the General Consulate of P.R.China in Chicago are:
	312-346-0287,0288 and 346-5581 (education office)
That building is alled Monroe Bldg. I forgot where exactly it is located.  
It is in downtown. Anyone can call them first if (s)he would like to know.
Good luck then.

Andy
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: jinguo@euler.mcs.utulsa.edu (Niu Jinguo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: chinese chess prg. wanted
Date: 11 Jan 1993 22:27:52 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hi, Dear netter:
I will appreciate very much if somebody tell me where I can find
a chinese chess game , either on unix,x-window, or PC are OK.
Thanx in advance.
Jinguo Niu
From: wangw@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Chinese Embassy -- Chicago
Date: 6 Jan 93 22:58:25 -0600
Keywords: Chinese Embassy, Chicago
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

Hello, folks!

Could anyone kindly tell me the address and the phone # of Chinese
Embassy in Chicago?  I am in badly need of them.  Please either e-mail me or
post here--they may be valuable to others too. 

Thanks a lot in advance.  Have a wonderful Chinese New Year!


wangw@cnsvax.uwec.edu
From: ygu@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Yifan Gu)
Subject: Re: Illiteracy Rate in PRC
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 6 Jan 93 04:41:07 GMT


>Yes, you did. When calculating illiteracy rate, infants and teenagers should
>be excluded. May I suggest you to donate a few bucks to SOS or HOPE project?
>Let's HOPE our young generation at least know what is literate rate.

>Thanks in advance


Ok, I see ! I thought something was weired. What would you give from that 
number the literacy rate ? 

... Teenagers ?  ...upto 19 ?

and if most illiterates in china are over 65, I wonder what is the "literacy"
rate between 19 and 65, any idea ?

I will "pay" for my mistake, for sure. Oh, I am a big loser here. :-) 




Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,misc.invest
From: jli@bingham.utah.edu (Jianliang Li)
Subject: ~~~~~~~ REAGAN VOTED FOR CLINTON ? ~~~~~~~
Organization: University of Utah
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 19:40:48 GMT


	Yes, used-to-be President Reagan voted for Bill Clinton in the recent
election.  Reasons are simple: (1). Reagan does not like Bush anymore; (2)
Clinton visited Reagan in Southern California before the election.

	Supprise?  This is what the Salt Lake Tribune reported.


JLi
From: lix@thames.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Cannibalism in Guangxi during the Cultural Revolution
Keywords: Terrible conclusion
Date: 8 Jan 93 22:27:27 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Boston University

In article <93Jan8.155931est.56@orasis.vis.toronto.edu> liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu) writes:
>In article <lkrh9aINNiuj@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) writes:
>>(deleted)
>I think the real problem is that all people went crazy during CR, and

This is ridiculous. First of all, the most of farmers were basically
not involved in the crazy, that is why the fighters could be still fed
for fighting. Secondly, even in cities and schools, fighters are still
minority. They were encouraged by Mao to fight and no one could stop
them. The last but not the least, even if what you think were true,
WHO MADE THEM CRAZY?

>everyone shares the blames,

No way. I have no interest to share the crime of Mao and fighters.
Chinese people, especially Chinese intellectuals, and Chinese culture
has their(our) own weakness, so that Mao and fighters could commit
such crimes. 

>(deleted)
>anyway this is all very sick, a very sick discussion.  

But in some respect, it is an interesting moment to see:

All fighters (D or P), united! to pour dirt water on Chinese PEOPLE.
Though they may have different reasons: D fighters want to pour
the valuable dirt water on CCP, don't mind whether it is on Chinese
people altogether. P fighters think this inevitible dirt water should
be pour on Chinese people only - Mao did not beat anyone, didn't he?
He did not eat human flesh, did he? After all, dirt water should be
poured on Chines people.

Sigh, fighters,.... 
-- 
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organization to raise money promoting the education in rural China. All donations
are tax-deductable. Make checks or money orders payable to: "SOS China Education
Fund"; c/o Jie KANG, 2610 E. 5th Pl, Apt. 1, Tulsa, OK74104, USA.
From: bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Yang Yuanxin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Cannibalism in Guangxi during the Cultural Revolution
Date: 12 Jan 1993 19:28:26 -0600
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
Keywords: Terrible conclusion

In article <106839@bu.edu> lix@thames.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li) writes:
>In article <1ishu5INNs9b@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Yang Yuanxin) writes:
><In article <106560@bu.edu> lix@thames.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li) writes:
>< (deleted)
><  But how do you explain Mao's "direction": " Yao4 Wen2 Dou4, Bu2 You4
><Wu3 Dou4" ( Fight with your pens, not with guns )   
><  Mao never encouraged people to fight/kill each other during CR.
><  That's my understanding, tell me yours if you don't think it;s right.
>
>Unfortunately you are wrong. Yes, Mao said: "Yao4 Wen2 Dou4, Bu2 You4
>Wu3 Dou4", but when?

  I don't know, if you think it was too late, then at least Mao didn't
say anything to encouge fighting, also, Mao was not always informed
correctly or promptly. So I don't believe it's fair to put all or most
of the dirt of CR on Mao.
>
>And when he said: "Yao Wu Ma" ?

  No idea.
  
>
>-- 
>The SOS China Education Fund is a non-political, non-profit and independent
>organization to raise money promoting the education in rural China. All donations
>are tax-deductable. Make checks or money orders payable to: "SOS China Education
>Fund"; c/o Jie KANG, 2610 E. 5th Pl, Apt. 1, Tulsa, OK74104, USA.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: rzhu@math.uwaterloo.ca (Rupert Zhu)
Subject: Xue Fei and Du Xian --- CCTV host/hostess
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:32:08 GMT

      Xue1 Fei1 and Du4 Xian4 were the most popular host/hostess for
CCTV's news program.  They expressed their sorrow indirectly during
their hosting TV news after 6.4.  They were banned from broadcasting
since then.  Many people still remember them.  The new TV hosts up to
now are no match to Xue1 and Du4.

      The following message has some information about Xue and Du's
whereabout.

---------------------- Start of Forwarded Message ------------------------

From: li@gauss.casr.fau.edu (Charlie Li)
Subject: Re: Happy New Year / Re: Florida
To: rzhu%math.uwaterloo.ca@Sdsc.Edu (Rupert Zhu)

>       Did you mean that Du Xian of CCTV came to US?  That's great!

Yes, she came to US as a visiting scholar (J-1) of our school's Art Dept
last October, she then went to NYC and California.  Her husband, Chen
Daoming, also came to the US and then paid a visit to Taiwan.

Xue Fei went to Hungary while ago (accompanying his wife).  Lu Jing also
is abroad.

Well, CCTV still doesn't allow Xue and Du to broadcast, so they had to
leave.

---------------------- End of Forwarded Message ------------------------


Information Exchange
---------------------            rzhu@math.uwaterloo.ca
Rupert Zhu  (in Canada)
Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:34053 soc.culture.taiwan:16798
From: u235@rex.uokhsc.edu (Yung-Jin Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: weapon sales to Taiwan
Keywords: weapons, Taiwan
Date: 6 Jan 93 16:20:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: rex.C0FxEI.n42
Organization: University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center, OKC

In article <mvdvalk.726314577@mekong> mvdvalk@cs.utwente.nl (Martijn van der Valk) writes:
>Dear netters,
>
>Many Taiwanese Chinese seem to be in favour of a strong Taiwan that can defend
>itself against military intervention and they seem to agree on their government
>buying Western weapon systems.
>
	Yes, we want to DEFEND ourselves (people in Taiwan).

>I was wondering about the following. The currently most likely candidate to
>attack Taiwan is mainland China. Do the people of Taiwan realise that in that
>case, Western weapons would (again) be killing Chinese?
>

	Once again, we just want to defend ourselves, not want to
kill Chinese.  Mainland China will never give up to attack Taiwan
with its military forces.  In addition, if you read the news, mainland
China also bought a lot hi-tech weapons from Russia.  Are they considering
not to kill Taiwanese (Chinese also in Taiwan) with these weapons?
I don't see there is anything wrong.

>According to the Dutch/French sinologist Kristoffer Schipper, the economic
>success of mainland China will lead to a decline of the economic power of
>Japan. He foresees another Sino-Japanese war in the coming 50 years.
>
	No, I am not convinced.  With the political structure of
current China, there is no hope for people, not to mention to 'lead
a decline of the economic power of Japan.'  It's just a joke for the
current China.  How can a country be a economic superpower when their
people don't want to stay there?  They can't vote there but they always
vote by their feet (escaping from mainland China).  You don't understand
the real situation here.

>Imagine the following scenario: the mainland starts a (small) military
>intervention against Taiwan because the TI movement has become too powerful
>or whatever reason they come up with: civil war in the Pacific, Chinese
>butchering Chinese for the better of the Chinese people, no doubt.
>
	I think it's butchor's responsibility, right?  We don't
want to irritate the butchors (CCP) either.  However, they still
want to attack Taiwan under no condition.  Did you see there is
a butchor killing people with any excuses?  

>Japan, loyal to the Taiwanese as ever, tells the US that they will take care of
>the poor island and start to ``help'' the Taiwanese forces.
>
	Please indicate your references.  

>Result: Japan and China are again at war...
>
	I really don't know what you're talking about here...

>Like to hear your opinions on this scenario. Thanks in advance!
>
>Martijn
>
>--
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>Faculty of Computer Science / SPA  |                          phone: +53-893795
>University of Twente, P.O. Box 217 | Pegasus Esprit BRA 6865    fax: +53-309723
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From: itistang@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu (Clayton Tang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Does Fudan Univ in Shanghai have internet access?
Date: 5 Jan 93 05:06:38 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis
Originator: itistang@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu


  Does the Fudan university in Shanghai have any unix machines? Does 
anyone know the host names, or better yet, IP addresses of those
machines? I assume they also use English on the computers, so I hope
that I don't need any special software to communicate. Who has access
to those computers anyway, any student or just grad students?

  Please email me by using the 'r' command. Thanks.

					clayton
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: afriend@dew.Princeton.EDU (A. Friend)
Subject: China refused to sign ultimatum (Re: UN resolution)
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:28:22 GMT


No. There is no UN resolution on No Fly Zone. But U.S. believes it is in
the spirit of other UN resolutions.

Friday on CNBC Donahue show, the other anchor (looks like the one from
CSPAN) talked at the beginning of the program that there is no media
mentioning why only 4 permanent members signed the ultimatum. According
to him, China refused to sign the ultimatum on the Surface to Air 
missiles in the NFZ, and replied where to put those missiles in
Iraq's land is Iraq's own business, as long as they don't use them against
the U.N. forces. 

The anchor continued to say he more or less agrees with China's view,
and it is best to get an agreement on the ultimatum in the U.N. before
forces are used. Donahue asked him, "You will let them--China stop this?"
He replies, "Why not? If you have a billion and two hundred million people
against you ... There are only five countries, it does not take a lot
to get to an agreement ... U.S. is the most powerful country today, but
will not always ... etc. Donahue joked about "we can always send Scowcroft to
Beijing again."

Later, when a call-in viewer was asked if she said U.N or U.S., she replied
"Everybody knows U.N. is just U.S."


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yongbai@physics.su.OZ.AU
Subject: Re: Did Jesus practice qi gong?
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 05:35:20 GMT

In article <C0D6Hw.Kop@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (jupiter) writes:
>>Somepeople are born with super-ablilities. They needn't to practise qigong  
>>to get their ablility. I believe that Jesus was one of them.
>
>And all of that ability could not save him from being
>executed by the authorities.
>Although it may be true that he was able to bring himself
>back to life, at least temporarily before disappearing from
>the pages of history.
>
	This is not the case.  Jesus did not save himself in order to save
others.  In our word: He expected to wake up people by it.  

	The "disappearing" is not exactly correct either.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Subject: Re: weapon sales to Taiwan
Keywords: weapons, Taiwan
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 22:35:18 GMT

In article <106290@bu.edu>, lix@thames.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li) writes:
|> In article <C0G8oM.Kwr@knot.ccs.queensu.ca> Comment writes:
|> >(deleted)
|> >Anyway, a bloody civil war between Chinese and Chinese is for sure very stupid and
|> >ugly.
|> 
|> Can't agree more.
|> 
|> >All the leaders and their supporters involved in this war should be blamed.
|> 
|> To blame anyone will be too late. As small potatoes, what we can do now is
|> to stop advocating hate and promote undersatnding. Only those able to be
|> benefitted from such a stupid and ugly war would advocate hate between people
|> in mainland and Taiwan.
|> 


Let people from mainland try to understand Taiwain and people from Taiwain
try to understand mainland China. I don't want to see either sides purchase
or make advanced weapons for a civil war. But I can understand why Taiwan
wants some advanced weapons. After having seen what CCP did to its people and
opponents in the past, it is very hard for someone who got hurt to forget
what has happened to him/her. It will take some time, maybe a long time. I
hope one day CCP is changed enough such that I will not fear it as I do now. 

I wish the best for China, Taiwain and mainland. I respect the choice
of the people.

H.J.