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From: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.guitar.tab
Subject: Re: What is the 12 bar blues rule?
Keywords: blues progressions
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:20:18 GMT
Reply-To: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
Organization: IBM Austin, TX


IMHO, the 12 bar blues rule *should* be:

	THOU SHALT AVOID REDUNDANCY!!!!


Nothing worse than hearing the same song all night! ;-)


THIS POSTING DOES NOT REPRESENT THE OPINIONS OF MY EMPLOYERS.
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"... watch from high atop Tokyo Tower as the twisted world
you created explodes in rivers of blood and endless pain..."
    -Tom Servo, announcer, monster action playset commercial
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: mgustof@hfglobe.intel.com (Mark Gustoff)
Subject: Magazine On Acoustics Wanted
Organization: Development Tools Operation, Intel Corp., Hillsboro, OR
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 18:23:18 GMT


ANy magazines out there dedicated to acoustics?

If so what are their target audiences, and what
are there addresses / phone numbers for subscription

Thanks............Mark
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: dkmiller@unixg.ubc.ca (Derek K. Miller)
Subject: Re: Martin guitars
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:52:53 GMT

There's a one-man guitar shop here in Vancouver who makes guitars called
Morgans. I believe the luthier's name is Ionucci, or something similar,
and he used to work for Larrivee. Morgans are very fine guitars (and not
cheap) - each hand-built and unique. If you can find one, please check it
out.

      :=:=> Derek K. Miller                 dkmiller@unixg.ubc.ca

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: serge@dgbt.doc.ca (Serge Ah Hee)
Subject: Re: Which Fender Strat is best ?
Organization: The Communications Research Centre
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 17:48:16 GMT

In article <3SEP199210035102@zeus.tamu.edu> spb0457@zeus.tamu.edu (SubGenius) writes:
>chc30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com () writes...
>>Can anyone tell me which type of Strat is best American or Mexican ? Are
>>any of the Japanese copies as good ? Also what sort of prices should you
>>pay ? Thanks.
>
>+----------------------------------------SubG----------------------------------+
>Actually, Squire Strats are pretty nice if yer willing to do a little work on
>your guitar (i.e., put in new pickups).

I myself had a Squier, I thought the action on the fretboard wasn't as 
good as a standard strat. The pickups are not the greatest. But it is a
good beginner's guitar. However, if you have the money, get a standard
strat. IMHO, always get the best guitar you can buy (I must ephasize CAN)
You won't regret it...

>
>And they're significantly less expensive than their Fender counterparts (I got
>my Squire Strat [new] a few years back for $300).
>
>
>-SubG


-- 
Serge Ah-Hee                  "Most troubles come from the fact that people 
serge@dgbt.doc.ca		take for granted of what they have, and 
				only care for what they want."
My opinions are mine only.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: luthe@jach.hawaii.edu (Rusty Luthe)
Subject: Re: Capricho Arabe
Reply-To: luthe@jach.hawaii.edu
Organization: UK/Canada/Netherlands Joint Astronomy Centre, Hilo, HI
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 04:08:35 GMT

Hi Brian,

Try Music Mart in Albuquerque New Mexico. They have an 800 number so
I'm sure you could get it from 800 information. I have dealt with them
for years. The are excellant and more than willing to help you out.
They even have a 'review at home' policy. If there are several editions
of a piece, and you don't know which one will suit you, they will send
you all for you to look at and then choose. You then send the rest back.
A very nice service. This should be of great help in finding the right 
copy of 'Capricho Arabe'. I might add that since this is a *very* popular
piece, there are numerous publications of it. It can also be found in
several Classical Guitar anthologies. Music For Millions is one.
Give Music Mart a go. They are good people.

Aloha
Rusty
From: jim@gordian.com (Jim Van Vorst)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Which Fender Strat is best ?
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:17:51 GMT
Organization: Gordian; Santa Ana Heights, CA

In article <Bu2CI2.H0F@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca>, rblander@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Robyn Landers) writes:
> In article <1992Sep4.002715.20039@wri.com> andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek) writes:
> >Yeah, I'm pretty happy with my Squier, mainly because of the feel of the  
> >frets. It's like a re-issue of an older strat where the frets are a little  
> >leaner than those they're using now (which are practically jumbos). It  
> >also has the older stock bridge assembly which I like. I might be a little  
> >happier with it of the the body was a nice solid hardwood instead of ply.  
> >And the pickups could be better, but they are decent, and I have yet to  
> >change them.
> >
> >AK
> 
> 	Let me further muddy the issue by pointing out that the
> first Squiers were made in Japan in the mid 80s, and for a while
> there ALL Fenders were made in Japan.  Yes, you young'uns, for a
> couple years there were NO made-in-USA Fender guitars.  The whole
> company moved to Japan.
> 
> 	These earliest Squiers were actually quite decent in terms 
> of components and workmanship except for the electronics:  the pickups 
> were just okay and the 5-way was junk.  However the wood was fine 
> (basswood, not plywood) and the hardware (tuning machines, etc),
> necks and fretwork were very good as well.   The pro shop in
> Toronto that I deal with occasionally tells me that these first couple
> years of Japanese Squiers are actually somewhat sought-after by
> people who realize that the quality was very good and the price
> is low.   Hope they're right about the sought-after part -- 
> I'm probably selling mine soon :-)
> 
> 
> -----
> Robyn
> rblanders@math.uwaterloo.ca
> 	"I'm just doing my rock'n'roll duty." -- Dubois

The new Squier I just picked up was made in Korea!  It's pretty nice.  Anyone
else with Korean Squiers?


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    then the first woodpecker to come along would destroy
    civilization."
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Subject: Re: Using a bow?
Reply-To: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:46:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.151343.28699@wam.umd.edu>, loffit@wam.umd.edu
(Dixie Cup) writes:
|>In article <1992Aug28.125713.28032@mksol.dseg.ti.com>
ctalbott@mksol.dseg.ti.com (christopher j talbott) writes:
|>>In article <1992Aug28.045100.11948@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>,
root@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (System PRIVILEGED Account) writes:
|>>|> labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche) writes:
|>>|> 
|>>|> Can't quite remember the song, 'bout the time of "Is This Love?", had 
|>>|> Tawny Kitaen in the vid (sha-wing :-))
|>>|> 
|>>|> Adam
|>>|> University of Western Australia
|>>
|>>I believe the song was "Still of the Night"
|>>
|>>If I remember the video right, Tawny's doing her typical "slinking" all over
|>>everything in sight...BMW's, mic stands, Coverdale, etc... :-)
|>
|>Actually, he only uses the bow in the video to look cool.  There isn't
a bowed
|>guitar on the whole album.  In an interview Jimmy Page said he thought it was
|>quite funny that the Whitesnake guitartist had done that.  I've taken a
|>stab at bowing my guitar in the past.  You go through bows very quickly.
|>They tear up like champs.  You can get a lot of very cool sounds and neat
|>stuff, but in the end, if you like Led Zeppelin, you'll feel like you're just
|>ripping off Jimmy Page.  Anyway, I wouldn't be caught dead bowing a guitar
|>in public because I'd be labeled as a Page rip off. 

What about playing Page Riffs/Solos?  Why should you be caught dead playing
these but not playing something of your own with a bow?  Who cares?  If you
don't want to be seen as ripping off someone don't limit your possibilities
by what someone else visually interprets your music to be by the instruments 
you play.  So what if Jimmy Page is the most memorable person who bowed a 
guitar.  He was experimenting and you should to.  If you want to try something
try it.  If it's good enough to play in public do it!

Nuf Said,
Maurice


|> However, I do belive
|>it is a legitimate technique and if you have the guts to do it live go
|>for it.
|>
|>
|>
                            

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Maurice LaBiche (Mo.L.)         |   labiche@bnr.ca
Bell Northern Research          |   Part of Northern Telecom 
Richardson, Texas               |   i'm really in Texas
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No opinions herein expressed have anything to do with the opinions 
of Bell Northern Research or Northern Telecom or CIA or NSA ...
These statements are mine and mine alone, well i guess my wife 
agrees with some of them?
From: mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Replacing handle on a guitar case
Date: 25 Aug 1992 19:24:19 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdacs.ucsd.edu

In article <BtJq0F.MtB@apollo.hp.com> deal_j@apollo.HP.COM (John Deal) writes:
>I have a guitar case that other than a broken handle, works fine.  The handle
>is broken at the metal bracket end that is rivited to the case.  I do not have
>any riviting machines (and have never rivited anything).  Is there other methods
>of attaching the handle?  Could I just use a metal screw/nut with the rounded
>head inside the case and the nut on the outside?  Also, where do you get
>replacement handles?
>
>Thanks for any info.
>
>              John
>-- 
>********
>Opinions of John Deal at deal_j@apollo.hp.com
>********

I actually went into a machine shop and made an industrial-strength handle
for my Rick-o-case.  You should be able to drill through and replace the
rivet with a nut/bolt combo.  If anyone knows where to get good replacement
handles, *please* post; I've got a few cases in good shape sans-handle.

Michael Breen
singing and philosophizing
(and tired of lugging 'em under my arm)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: META000 <META@UNB.CA>
Subject: The perfect pitch sage
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:13:12 GMT

The folks who bring you the "perfect pitch" course are also the folks
who brought you Maharishi International University, and the
anyone-can-be-a-millionaire-by-buying-distressed-properties late night
infomercials, and the proposed "Vedaland" meditation theme park in
Niagara Falls.  I won't call these folks ripoff artists, but they DO
have a penchant for believing their own bullshit more than is probably
warranted, and have enough of a bankroll to keep placing 2-page ads
until people say "Hmm, I wonder if this stuff works?".

People CAN learn to have better pitch memory since no one is born with
it.  Near as I can tell, for the popular musician, the only time having
perfect pitch memory would be useful would be if you turned to your
fellow musicians on stage and said "Hey let's do (song x)" and everyone
just knew that it was in B-flat because they remembered the pitch from
the last time they heard it on the radio.  This strikes me as, uh,
not a "necessary" skill for your basic Metallica cover band.  For
classical musicians, this may be a different story.  There is probably
some merit in showing up "in tune", but there are also plenty of ways
to be in tune other than by learning perfect pitch.

Your goal should be perfect RELATIVE pitch, rather than perfect ABSOLUTE
pitch.  No one really cares what the actual frequency of the original
was.  What they DO care about is that you can remember what the next
note is given what the last note was, and that is what we conventionally
call "playing by ear".  I find it good enough for my own needs after 28
years of playing, and I suspect you will too.

Still, if you have a hundred bucks to piss away, and when you hum songs
they end up in a different key than what you started with, it may be
worth your while to consider trying to improve your pitch memory via
some organized practice, or training package.  I've worked with "tone
deaf" musicians, and there are times I would have paid the $100 myself
just to improve THEIR pitch memory.


Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: loffit@wam.umd.edu (Dixie Cup)
Subject: Re: Using a bow?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:13:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.125713.28032@mksol.dseg.ti.com> ctalbott@mksol.dseg.ti.com (christopher j talbott) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.045100.11948@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, root@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (System PRIVILEGED Account) writes:
>|> labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche) writes:
>|> 
>|> Can't quite remember the song, 'bout the time of "Is This Love?", had 
>|> Tawny Kitaen in the vid (sha-wing :-))
>|> 
>|> Adam
>|> University of Western Australia
>
>I believe the song was "Still of the Night"
>
>If I remember the video right, Tawny's doing her typical "slinking" all over
>everything in sight...BMW's, mic stands, Coverdale, etc... :-)

Actually, he only uses the bow in the video to look cool.  There isn't a bowed
guitar on the whole album.  In an interview Jimmy Page said he thought it was
quite funny that the Whitesnake guitartist had done that.  I've taken a
stab at bowing my guitar in the past.  You go through bows very quickly.
They tear up like champs.  You can get a lot of very cool sounds and neat
stuff, but in the end, if you like Led Zeppelin, you'll feel like you're just
ripping off Jimmy Page.  Anyway, I wouldn't be caught dead bowing a guitar
in public because I'd be labeled as a Page rip off.  However, I do belive
it is a legitimate technique and if you have the guts to do it live go
for it.
From: danshin@dvinci.USask.Ca (Tom Danshin)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: test
Summary: test
Keywords: test
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:54:35 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan

test    
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: jgn@vixen.uucp (22122-niederberger)
Subject: Re: Martin guitars
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 20:21:15 GMT

In article <16854A2B5.ADCBB@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU> ADCBB@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU (C. Brian Batey) writes:
>Jerry asked that I post this for him, because he can't post to this
>group from his location.

>I too am a "low quality ignoramus" as I have played a Guild for 19 years
>and would not trade it for a Martin if my life depended on it.

Hey hey, I started the name calling, and I'm sorry.  Please accept my
apology.  My point was that trashing a good company like C.F. Martin
is in fact trashing real people who (IMHO) do an outsanding job.  SO,
I got angry and resorted to childish behavior.

I'm glad you like your Guild.  Some of my best friends play Guilds.


Peace,

Joe N.

BTW, If anybody wants to donate their lousy Martins to a good cause, I
can find a good home for them ;-)
From: bash@tware.UUCP (Paul Bash)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Strap buttons
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:35:32 GMT
Organization: Techware Design, Boulder, Colorado

In article <1992Sep2.101209.13@bra.isnet.inmos.co.uk> svrobins@bra.isnet.inmos.co.uk writes:
>After many years of not owning an acoustic guitar and playing only my 
>Telecaster I recently bought a Seagull S6. I'm very happy with the S6,
>but one thing bothers me: no strap button on the neck end of the body!.
>This means I have to attach the strap by looping a shoestring-like cord
>behind the nut underneath the strings on the headstock.
>
>I don't like this at all. Surely it can't be a good idea to hang the 
>instrument by its neck?. I'd much prefer to have a strap button at each
>end of the body, like my Telecaster has.
>
>So, the questions are : can I simply add a strap button?, if so do screw
>into the body cavity above the neck/body joint (do I need to strengthen this
>in any way?), or into the heel of the neck joint.  Will this adversely affect 
>the instrument ?.
>
>Perhaps this a common arrangment for fixing a strap on acoustics, and I
>should leave it alone.
>
>Any ideas ?
>
>Thanks
>
>Paul Robins

I took my Taylor back to the shop where I bought it to get a button put on it.
They just drilled a small pilot hole on the underside of the neck joint (with
the guitar in playing position) and screwed a new button into it. 
It sounds as good now as it did before. I've had it like this for 6 years and 
it hasn't hurt a thing. I wouldn't worry about this adversly affecting the 
neck since the weight of the guitar isn't so much and the button is placed 
at the strongest point on the neck.  

-- 
Paul Bash                                                   Techware Design 
bash@tware.com                                              Boulder, CO  U.S.A.
From: deadhead@molest.ugcs.caltech.edu (stephen thompson)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Music Block
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:07:02 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena

cpeckham@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Peckham) writes:
>	Does this happen to you much?  How do you cope?  What do you
>do?  Are you a disciplined creative person or a 'free-spirit', or 
>something else?  If you suffer from _music/technique block_, and I'm 
>sure I'm not the only one, or you have found a _cure_, then please
>enlighten us all with your experiences and advice!

This happens to me on a weekly to bi-weekly basis.  I try to play my guitar
and no matter what I play or try to do it sounds like shit--the tone, volume,
everything sounds bad.

But I do have a cure.  I bought an electric.  Not that electrics are better,
because they're not, but because I can switch between guitars.

Now I'll play my acoustic for a week and all of a sudden it'll sound dead,
not because the strings are older but because of some personal perception.
I'll switch to my electric and scream away.  Then a week later my electric
will sound dead--almost cheesy.  I'll pick up my acoustic, hear that natural
tone and be on my way to a heavenly jam session.

Stephen


--
----                                    I got no reason              
--------                             to be there, but I              
----------------                        Imagine it might             
--------------------------------  be some kind of change. --Bob Dylan
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: larryh@cabezon.uucp (Larry Huntley)
Subject: Re: Scale Length and Fret layout
Organization: Logic Modeling Inc of Beaverton Oregon
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:16:30 GMT

In article <92247.151641WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:
>To calculate scale length:
>
>     1. Measure from the nut to fret 12.
>     2. Multiply the measurement by two.
>     3. The resultant number is the scale length.
>

	Or, just measure the distance from the bridge to the nut along
	one string.  Scale lengths come in numbers like 23.5", 24.75",
	25.5", 30" (bass), 32.5", and 34".


	Fret positioning:

	First fret:  Divide scale length by 17.817.  Quotient is the
	distance from the nut to the first fret slot.

	Next fret:  Subtract first quotient from scale length.  Divide
	remainder by 17.817.  This gives distance from first fret slot
	to second fret slot.
	
	Continue subtracting and dividing for other frets.


	- Larry Huntley

-- 
         (larryh@lmc.com)         | You played golf; you watched football;
     Logic Modeling Corporation   |   you drank beer -- we EVOLVED!
          Beaverton,  OR          |         - Rhonda,  "Thing-Fish"
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: pkor@phoenix.oulu.fi (Pasi Korhonen)
Subject: Re: Martin guitars
Organization: Ripoff Industries
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:24:35 GMT

> up is to say "go try one, or two, or better yet, a whole shop full
> (for example, Mandolin Bros.)"
> 
	well, how could I put it right, muslims go to Mecca,
	I go to the Mandolin Bros.

> No matter who is building them, an individual guitar is an
> *individual*.  No two are the same, even if they share a model number
> and were made by the same person on the same day from the same wood
> stock.  Even a master luthier produces a "dog" now and then
> (relatively speaking, an instrument that is below his/her "average")
> as well as an occasional "superstar".  We shouldn't confuse "quality"
> with "consistency" although the two are related.
> 
	I'll second that...

> BTW, Taylors are nice instruments, comparable to Martin in terms of
> quality. 

	Absolutely. A local shop has five Taylors, one of them 
	a custom shop baby. FINE GUITARS !!!
 
> Guilds? Ha HA HA HA HA!!

	nice guitars when compared to Jap stuff, but not anywhere
	near Taylor, Martin, Larrivee, Lowden, Santa Cruz and such.

> IMHO (no flames please).
> 
> Joe N.
	
	pasi
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From: goodrich@lynx.larc.nasa.gov (Mike Goodrich)
Subject: Re: Why so few people have perfect pitch
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:16:59 GMT

From what I understand about this, it is generally accepted that anyone
can attain perfect pitch with proper training...


...mike
From: news@times.aux.apple.com (News Subsystem)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Wanted: MesaBoogie Combo Amp
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:23:24 GMT
Reply-To: eriks@apple.com
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

Does anyone out there have or know of someone selling a used MesaBoogie
combo amp.  I would be very interested in obtaining a used one as new ones
are highly expensive.  Thanks.

Erik         <eriks@apple.com>
From: mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: classical guitar - anyone?
Date: 2 Sep 1992 22:55:38 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdacs.ucsd.edu

In article <loon.37@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za> loon@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za (LOON M J) writes:
>
>I'm looking for a bit of idle email chat with a classical guitar player. It 
>seems there's not many of us sophisticated types on this newsgroup. 
>
>Regards and sympathy,  
>--
>Marc Loon <loon@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za>
[rest of sig deleted]

Man, you are asking for this:

Many of us steel-string acoustic and electric git players are quite
'sophisticated', thank you very much.  Not all of 'us' are speed-metal
freaks (this author hates the stuff).  Some of us even (*gasp*) play
classical guitars too, and know that there are guitar compositions that
pre-date the Rolling Stones.

So, Mr. Loon, have fun here, and good luck conversing with other classical
players, but don't attempt to thrust import on yourself be degrading others.

Michael Breen
singing and philosophizing
(and hoping a speed-metal freak moves in right next store to this guy!)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar