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From: eric@zen.maths.uts.edu.au (Eric Lindsay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: Re: Minix on 68k
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:35:59 GMT
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
NNTP-Posting-Host: zen.maths.uts.edu.au

In <1gas0cINNjmu@fnnews.fnal.gov> knowles@FNALNL.FNAL.GOV writes:

>Does anyone know whether MINIX has been successfully
>ported to the 68k?

Colin McCormack of Tangled Web software ported Minix to the Applix 1616, 
an MC68000 kit computer sold in Australia.  He remapped a lot of the Minix 
calls to use the equivalents in the 1616/OS that was in EPROM on the board, 
so it wouldn't be a real portable version.  I tried it for a while, but 
like most of the users, rather quickly switched back to the original 
operating system (Minix didn't have any features it didn't have ... except 
a slightly better shell ... and Minix was a hell of a lot slower and didn't
support graphics.)

--
eric@zen.maths.uts.edu.au  Eric Lindsay, Sch of Maths, Uni of Tech
Don't take life too seriously.
It is only temporary.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
From: aire@sabrina.dei.unipd.it (Renzo Mercanzin 260080/IL)
Subject: 68k based single board computer project
Organization: D.E.I. Universita' di Padova, Italia
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:33:14 GMT

 Hi Guys, 
I developed a single board computer nbased on 68000/010. The project is
very very simple, and I realized it using a small board of 8*10 inc.
The computer has 2 serial ports, 64 kb of ram 32kb 0f ROM. If You want
to realize it please send email to me and I will send You the project.
with less that 20$ you can realize it.


					Renzo

Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
From: murray@rocky.raleigh.ibm.com (Charlie Murray)
Subject: Re: What is a MC68-705?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:57:02 GMT
Organization: IBM, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina

In article <1992Dec14.153959.119650@marshall.wvnet.edu>, rcbi110@marshall.wvnet.edu writes:
|> 
|> 
|> The subject says it all...
|> 
|> Is it anywhere remotely similar to a 68000?
|> I've done a tiny bit of 68000 coding on my Amiga.
|> 
|> ((   ||  /\\ \\  / /\\  ((      R. Alan Monroe       ((   STOP             ((
|>  )) _// /--\\ \\/ /--\\  )) rcbi110@muvms3.wvnet.edu  ))  TALKING...        ))
|> ((              _       ((                           ((       START        ((
|>  ))  ||  /\\  //  ||_/   ))    Pinkwater Rules!       ))      CHALKING!     ))
|> ((  _// /--\\ \\_ || \  ((            :^)            ((               -CMB ((
|> 

The Motorola 705 VME board is a six port serial card that is controlled by
an on board 68010.  This may be what the reference is for.

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From: mikael@terapin.com (Mikael Andersson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: Wanted used 68030/68040 chips
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:01:36 GMT
Organization: BBS

I am looking for used but working Motorola 68030/68EC030/68040/68EC040
for my next project. The speed is not important but i hope to find
them above 32Mhz for the 030s and above 20 Mhz for the 040s
 
Mikael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
From: pecampbe@mtu.edu (Paul Campbell)
Subject: Re: What is a MC68-705?
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:23:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.145702.19979@sernews.raleigh.ibm.com> murray@rocky.raleigh.ibm.com (Charlie Murray) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.153959.119650@marshall.wvnet.edu>, rcbi110@marshall.wvnet.edu writes:
>|> 
>|> 
>|> The subject says it all...
>|> 
>|> Is it anywhere remotely similar to a 68000?
>|> I've done a tiny bit of 68000 coding on my Amiga.
>|> 
>The Motorola 705 VME board is a six port serial card that is controlled by
>an on board 68010.  This may be what the reference is for.

A 68705's are members of a very large family of microcontrollers (though not
quite as bad as all the variants of the 8051 family) based on the 6805 base
from Motorola. As far as capabilities, it's about halfway between a 6800 and
a 6809 as I recall. 6800 and 6809 being members of Motorola's hybrid 8/16 bit
families.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
From: bill@mri.com (Bill Weinberg)
Subject: Re: What is a MC68-705?
Organization: Microtec Research Inc., Santa Clara, CA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:44:30 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.163817.8341@cc.gatech.edu> byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff) writes:
>
>the 68HC705 is a 6800 based high speed microcontroller. They come in many 
>different package sizes and configurations. They all have (I think) built-in
>Ports and timers. Some have serial ports builtin also. The all have some
>amount of on board memory consisting of a mix of static ram, EPROM, and EEPROM.
>Their internal architecture and register map is vastly different from the
>the 68000 (i.e. small (in size and #) specialized registers vs. Large (again in
>size and #) general purpose registers).
>
>I have not seen any high level language support for the 68HC705 series. 
>Something else on my to do list. Can you saw Nano-C? ;-)
>

To be more precise, the 68705 chips are derivatives of the 6805, which
is itself microcontroller derivative of the 6800. The 7 in the device
number show that it has on-chip EPROM. The 6805 family, BTW, is HUGE,
with over 95 versions/variants, all based on the same instruction-set
compatible 6805 core.

As for HLL tools, I know of one company only that offer 6805 C compilers:
Byte-Craft Ltd, a small but very interesting Canadian company run by a
fellow named Walter Banks. Look for their add in Embedded Systems Prog.
I'll also try to find their address and phone and post it next week.

Now for a discussion of netiquette, etc.  Why do 8-bitters keep posting
to this group?  Why are there only 680x0 an 6809 groups when there are
millions of 6800, 6802, 6805, 68hc11, etc. applications, while only
Color Computer people still use the 6809 (Sorry Ritter)?

Shouldn't someone establish an 8-bit Motorola news group or just lump
all th 68XX derivatives under comp.sys.6800?

Just my quarter-byte.

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William Weinberg                                 bill@mri.com
Product Marketing Manager
Microtec Research,   Inc. Tel 800-950-5554    FAX 408982-8266
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
From: sdhouse@bnr.ca (Stephen D. House)
Subject: List of 68020 Instruction lengths?
Keywords: 68020 instruction length
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:37:14 GMT

This might seem to be quite a silly question, but does anyone have a list
of all possible 68020 instructions, and their word instruction lengths?

If you just have a list of 68000 instructions and their lengths, that too 
would be fine.

I am doing some testing and this would be of GREAT use.  If you do have
such a beast, or can point me in the right direction, please send email to
anurag@bnr.ca.   This is a friend's account, so please let him know that
this is for me.

Thanks!

-- 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
From: adams@pdv2.fmr.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de (Adams)
Subject: Re: Q: BDM and GDB
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:01:17 GMT
Organization: TH-Darmstadt

In article <2806@bigfoot.first.gmd.de> gt@prosun.first.gmd.de (Gerd Truschinski) writes:


>   Hi all,

>   I want to debug a MC68340 with GDB-4.7 via the BDM (Background Debug Mode)
>   of the CPU32. Has anybody written a 'remote-BDM.c' for the GDB?

>   Please mail and I post the answers.

>   BTW, is there any FTP-Server with all the things we didn't want to
>   program the 4711 time?

There was an enhancement to GDB-3.5 on "ftp.plains.nodak.edu". 
Please talk to Noel Anderson (nanders@plains.nodak.edu).

You will have to translate the BDM-bitprotocol into something, 
a UNIX-workstation will accept.

best, adams
From: knowles@FNALNL.FNAL.GOV
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: Minix on 68k
Date: 11 Dec 1992 20:00:12 GMT
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
Reply-To: knowles@FNALNL.FNAL.GOV
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnalnl.fnal.gov

Hello :

Does anyone know whether MINIX has been successfully
ported to the 68k?  Better yet, has it ever been ported
to a PROM-able version suitable for inclusion into a
SBC such as the VME133-1?

Thanks in advance.

Rich Knowles    knowles@fnalo.fnal.gov    Fermilab

Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
From: nau@struppi.medizin.uni-ulm.de (Thomas Nau)
Subject: MC 68040 floating point emulator
Keywords: 68040,floating-point
Organization: University of Ulm, Departement of Anaesthesia
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 12:39:52 GMT

Hi out there,
does anyone know where I can get a piece of software that emulates
the missing floating point instruction (compared to a 68882) via
illegal instruction trap ?

Thomas
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       Departement of Anaesthesia, University of Ulm, Germany

                    think about 42 and DONT PANIC
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
From: parsytec@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu (Brian Upper - Invoice)
Subject: Old chips wanted
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:17:51 GMT



HELP!

I'm looking for any source where I can buy the following Signetics chips:
	SCB 68154 C2N40
	N74F764N
	N74F764N-1
	N74F765N
	N74F765N-1

If you know of any good supplier of old chips in general, please let me
know.  Thank you in advance for your assistance.

Brian Upper
parsytec.ux2.cso.uiuc

P.S.  If this is the wrong news-group, please accept my apologies and
kindly direct me to a more appropriate one.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.xerox
From: d89andos@odalix.ida.liu.se (Anders \sterholm)
Subject: Opening a chat from initfile
Organization: CIS Dept, Univ of Linkoping, Sweden
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:58:55 GMT

When trying to open a chatwindow to shell from my initfile (in greet)
I get File not open : #<Closed Pty-stream...>

The strange thing is that it works fine from the Execwindow:

(il:chat 'il:shell nil nil (il:createw '(10 10 550 480) "Shell") nil)

but not so from the greet. Does anybody have a clue as to what I am doing
wrong?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.xerox
From: John_D._Sybalsky.MV@envos.xerox.COM
Subject: Re: Opening a chat from initfile
Organization: Info-1100 Mailing List
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 07:11:00 GMT

If the permissions on /dev/ttyp0 are set wrong, the first CHAT attempt will
sometimes fail.  This seems to get dinked by X windows under some
circumstances.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.xerox
From: d89andos@odalix.ida.liu.se (Anders \sterholm)
Subject: Re: Opening a chat from initfile
Organization: CIS Dept, Univ of Linkoping, Sweden
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:24:03 GMT

The problem is that it always works fine from the Execwindow.
Some further info: Running Medley on Sun Sparc1, no X or other.

Anyway, I've tried to figure out how chat from the menu works, but
failed to get any further from il:\\spawn.chat.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.vms,misc.forsale.computers
From: despair@netcom.com (Scott Hanson)
Subject: Vax parts for sale/pick-up: disk pax, tape drive, memory, etc.
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:40:15 GMT

In the process of converting our largest computers from Prime to DEC, my
company traded in our old vax 11/785 for a 4000-100.  Here is a list of
parts no longer needed.  My boss would like to get a fair offer on this,
but if you can pick it up it would lower the price.  Parts or whole, whatever
seems most promising.  A token amount of money would most likely be enough.

16 RM05 300 Meg disk packs - these are utilizable for other drives as well,
	and are in good shape.

1 TU78 tape drive

10 1 Meg memory boards for VAX 11/78x

2 DMF32 - comm.

2 DZ11 - mux

5 Visual V550 terminals

1 Visual 300 terminal

4 Visual 330A terminals

The company is located in downtown Los Angeles (They don't have internet
access!) and we have manuals, proof of purchase, etc.

Please help us out, some of this is good stuff and it would be a shame to
see it go to waste.
-- 
Scott Hanson		This has been a recording.
despair@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
From: pompa@hpsrad.enet.dec.com (Jeff Pompa)
Subject: After market memory for DG AViion series??? (Data General MEMORY)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 15 DEC 92 17:20:49    


         I am  trying  to  find  additional  memory for the Data General
         AViion series.   (4X00)  Does anyone know it there is a company
         (other than DG) that makes this memory?

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From: schoenfe@Mathematik.TU-Chemnitz.DE (Pierre Schoenfeld)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: Commodore Plus 4 - Keyboard
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:10:29 GMT
Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG

Hi there !

I have a problem with my Commodore Plus 4.
The keyboard reacts only very clumsy. Also a cleaning of the contacts 
couldn't help there. If someone of you has an idea how I could change that 
condition, please send me a mail.

Thank you !
                                           Pierre


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From: Miro_Marco_Raul_Jose@euskom.spritel.es
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: I want subscription.
Date: 19 Dec 92 08:02:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:28:00 UTC+0100

SUB comp.sys.misc Raul Miro
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
From: pompa@hpsrad.enet.dec.com (Jeff Pompa)
Subject: Data General Conference out there???
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 15 DEC 92 17:15:44



  Is there a comp.sys.dg (data general) conference on USENET?

  Thanx,

  -Jeff

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From: Miro_Marco_Raul_Jose@euskom.spritel.es
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: SUB
Date: 19 Dec 92 08:02:04 GMT
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:44:00 UTC+0100

SUB info-micro Raul Miro
From: Miro_Marco_Raul_Jose@euskom.spritel.es
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: I want subscription.
Date: 18 Dec 92 08:02:31 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:53:00 UTC+0100

SUB comp.sys.misc Raul Miro
From: jcchuan@MATH.NTHU.EDU.TW (professor chuan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: subscribe vaporware
Date: 11 Dec 92 10:56:27 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I would like to subscribe Vaporware.	J. Chuan
From: suqfagg@susssys1.reading.ac.uk (Graham Edward Fagg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: mbufs
Keywords: mbufs suns
Date: 14 Dec 92 05:05:44 GMT
Organization: University of Reading



Dear All,
	
I have a problem, and Its pretty urgent (aren't they all).
(So I've cross posted, sorry: comp.sys.misc comp.sys.sun.adm "".misc
 comp.unix.admin comp.unix.misc)

The problem is with a sun4 IPC running SunOS 4.1.1 (BSD 4.3).
During boot up it comes up with an mbufs map full error... this appears
to cause general IO fails due to lack of memory.

Firstly the kernal is unaltered .... and theirs plenty disk space on / /usr
etc...

so why has the error occured and what will stop it and thus allow the
machine to boot up correctly... (it fails on rc.local due to memory problems).

Many thanks in advance,

Graham E Fagg.
Cybernetics Dept.
Reading University.
UK.

e-mail:	G.Fagg@rdg.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
From: dale@manet.wustl.edu (Dale Frye)
Subject: Re: In search of an early video by Alan Kay
Reply-To: dale@manet.wustl.edu
Organization: Washington University, School of Engineering, St. Louis MO
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:43:55 GMT

In article <199212141658.AA08001@cs.rpi.edu> jorgej@cs.rpi.edu writes:
> Hello everybody:
> 
> I am looking for a video which I think was produced by ACM (SIGGRAPH?)  
in
> 1987(?) or earlier containing a presentation by Alan Kay in which he
> discusses his vision on user interfaces. Particularly interesting is a
> small piece containing an early gesture-based interactive application
> to draw flowcharts using a Rand tablet. Could someone point me to the
> video in question ?
> 
You can order it from:

University Video Communications
PO Box 5129-q
Stanford, CA  94309

(415)813-0506 x9217


We just had a series of tapes shown to the students (sponsored by the  
local student ACM chapter). Alan Kay's was one of them.

Dale Frye
Washington University in St. Louis
From: dettmer@jupiter.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Thomas Dettmer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
Subject: beginners question
Date: 15 Dec 1992 11:55:51 GMT
Organization: University of Dortmund, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: jupiter.informatik.uni-dortmund.de

Hello to you all,

I hope this is the appropriate place for my beginners question(s):

I would like to know about pen computers (or input devices) that are
actually available on the market (in germany).
price, contact, experiences etc.
Additionally I'd like to know about recognition software for handwritten
characters.

the context:
1. My knowledge about pen computing is approximately zero
2. We are planning to use a pen input device (not necessarily a complete
   computer) in combination with a mutimedia application and a touch
   screen. The task for the pen device is to replace the keyboard. Thus
   kind of recognition software for handwritten print-characters is
   additionally required.
3. We have short and long term time limits. So it is important wether things
   are REALLY available in germany today or have long delivery times or are 
   annonced ... only
Any help and hint etc. is welcome. 
If there is interest I'll send a summary to this group.

Thanks in advance
tom.
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phone: +49-231 755 6323, FAX: +49-231 755 6555
Thomas Dettmer, Dortmund University, Computer Science I
Post Box 50 05 00, W-4600 Dortmund 50, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
From: ds@netcom.com (David Schachter)
Subject: Personal to anyone at Logitech, especially Wynn Bailey
Keywords: logitech
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 07:14:08 GMT

There are several Logitech people on the PenPoint mailing list.  One of
them, Wynn_Bailey@logitech.com, keeps bouncing with a non-helpful error
message from Logitech's email software.  I tried a note to postmaster@
logitech.com but that bounced!  (Isn't that a violation of some RFC or
something, regarding the responsibilities of Internet hosts?)  So I
sent a note to "Administrator@logitech.com", as that's the account that
sent the bounce message.  I never got a response.

This happens frequently.  The lack of a response from Administrator
makes me wonder if anyone reads the email to that account, or if any
responses being sent to me are being lost in the aether.

So...  If anyone from Logitech sees this, please have Wynn Bailey contact
me so we can work out what's wrong.  And if anyone knows the postmaster
at Logitech, please have him/her contact me to let me know what to do
with future bounce messages from Logitech, as the software there seems
inadequate for the purpose.  Thanks kindly.

				-- David Schachter

P.S. Replies to david@llustig.palo-alto.ca.us, not ds@netcom.com, please.
From: jorgej@cs.rpi.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
Subject: In search of an early video by Alan Kay
Date: 14 Dec 1992 10:58:38 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hello everybody:

I am looking for a video which I think was produced by ACM (SIGGRAPH?) in
1987(?) or earlier containing a presentation by Alan Kay in which he
discusses his vision on user interfaces. Particularly interesting is a
small piece containing an early gesture-based interactive application
to draw flowcharts using a Rand tablet. Could someone point me to the
video in question ?

Thanks In Advance

Joaquim Jorge
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From: david@llustig.palo-alto.ca.us (David Schachter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
Subject: Videotape of Andy Novobilski's WPDO talk (10-Dec-92) now available
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 14:10:37 PST

The videotape of the Silicon Valley WPDO chapter's December meeting is now
available.  Contact me for more information.  Below is the catalog descrip-
tion for it.  "WPDO" == Worldwide PenPoint Developer's Organization.

                                        -- David Schachter


Tape #9: WPDO Meeting #5                                  10-Dec-92
         23 minutes of Administrivia, !Door Prizes!, and announcements,
         (including a message from GO CEO Jerry Kaplan), 23 minutes of
         Thom Hogan with the first installment of the quarterly feature
         Marketing Update, this time focusing on COMDEX, and 67 minutes
         of NovoTech's Andy Novobilski on two topics: "Requirements for
         PenPoint Programming and Programmers," and "Objective-C and
         PenPoint."  The latter topic is relevant to NovoTech's port of
         Objective-C to PenPoint.  At the end of the tape is about 10
         minutes of AT&T's Steve Cox showing videos of AT&T's vision
         for Personal Communications and Communicators.  (123 minutes)


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David Schachter                                 david@llustig.palo-alto.ca.us
801 Middlefield Road, #8                             ...!decwrl!llustig!david
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
From: ch_purzl@rcvie.co.at (Klaus Puerzelmayer)
Subject: Applications
Reply-To: ch_purzl@rcvie.co.at
Organization: Alcatel ELIN Research
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 10:36:39 GMT


I want to know which applications are currently using
pen-based systems?
What is already in use?



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