HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: stoodt@cis.umassd.edu (Michael Stoodt)
Subject: Re: expired line in explist (C news)
Keywords: expire explist expired
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:47:56 GMT

In <1992Oct7.182637.23168@dickens.com> lpc@dickens.com (Luis P Caamano) writes:

>I just discovered that I had my /expired/ line set to 30 days and
>one newsgroup set to 90 days.  Should that be a problem?

>I'm asking 'cause I found really old articles in that newsgroup
>that were never expired (removed).  I checked the history file and
>they were not there either, so I assumed that expire was trimming
>those articles from the history file but not from NEWSARTS.

>BTW I removed the articles manually, is there any automatic way
>to check for this case in all the newsgroups?

The two items are unrelated.  The /expired/ line in explist specifies
the length of time that a line (message-id) stays in the history file,
even after all the links to that article are expired; this is to
ensure that ancient articles get rejected if they should happen to
come around to you again.  Having group expirations set longer than
that is just fine; the line gets removed when the article expires.

Occasionally articles get misfiled or something; these are the ones
you saw that never got expired.  Either handle them manually as you
did, or occasionally run "addmissing"; addmissing traverses the spool
directory tree looking for articles which aren't in history, and adds
them to history so that they'll get expired appropriately.
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Newsgroups: news.config
From: nickn@mummy.agsm.unsw.OZ.AU (Nick_Nikov)
Subject: Re: Need help with rn
Organization: Australian Graduate School of Management
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:22:25 GMT

In article <Bvt8I7.Cuu@news.larc.nasa.gov> jka@windshear.larc.nasa.gov (J. Keith Alston) writes:
>I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I'm having a
>problem with rn. When I try to start it up I get the message:
>
>Too many lines in .newsrc
>
>it then aborts. anyone know how to solve this problem? Everything works
>fine if I use xrn. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>-- 
>************************      Don't just do it!     ***********************
>Lockheed Eng. and Sci. Co./Nasa Larc|J. Keith Alston jka@windshear.larc.nasa.gov
I just had this problem and the best advice seemed to get the latest rn
(v4.4.3) which apparently dynamically allocates for more news groups.

The alternative is to modify MAXRCLINE in common.h and rebuild rn.

Either way a rebuild is necessary so why not get the latest.

I am still testing rn in that I am just below (one in fact) the max.


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From: pdomain@emory.edu (Mike Mitten)
Newsgroups: news.config
Subject: Re: Need help with rn
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:28:42 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Eduardo Rodriguez (erodrigu@dcc.uchile.cl) wrote:
>In article <Bvt8I7.Cuu@news.larc.nasa.gov>, jka@windshear.larc.nasa.gov (J. Keith Alston) writes:
>> I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I'm having a
>> problem with rn. When I try to start it up I get the message:
>> Too many lines in .newsrc
>
>Mmmmm.. compile a newer version of rn: 
>
>@(#)$Id: rn.c,v 4.4.4.1 1992/02/23 21:25:39 sob PATCH_4 sob $
>
>Or simply change in one of the .h files a global variable that
>contains the maximum number of lines of your .newsrc

On the other hand, when I had this problem with rn, it seemed to be
caused by the lines for groups I was not subscribed to getting very
long when articles I read in other groups, which were crossposted
to the unsubscribed groups, were marked as read in the unsubscribed
groups.  When I deleted the line past the '!', rn would work again.
Most of the time.

Of course, the last time this happened, I couldn't fix it, so I
switched to tin.  Now, tin shows me the articles in all the
crossposted groups.  Oh well.

  -Mike

Mike Mitten - pdomain@emory.edu - Irony is the spice of life. - DoD#522
I do not speak for Emory University, nor for Public Domain, Inc.
Newsgroups: news.config
From: erodrigu@dcc.uchile.cl (Eduardo Rodriguez)
Subject: Re: Need help with rn
Originator: erodrigu@tortel
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1992 22:10:34 GMT
Organization: Universidad de Chile, Depto. de Ciencias de la Computacion


In article <Bvt8I7.Cuu@news.larc.nasa.gov>, jka@windshear.larc.nasa.gov (J. Keith Alston) writes:
> I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I'm having a
> problem with rn. When I try to start it up I get the message:
> 
> Too many lines in .newsrc
> 

Mmmmm.. compile a newer version of rn: 

@(#)$Id: rn.c,v 4.4.4.1 1992/02/23 21:25:39 sob PATCH_4 sob $

Or simply change in one of the .h files a global variable that
contains the maximum number of lines of your .newsrc

edo...

Eduardo Rodriguez S        - --- - --- - --- -    erodrigu@dcc.uchile.cl
Dpto de Ciencias de la Computacion  - --- -    ...!uunet!uchdcc!erodrigu
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Newsgroups: news.config
From: david@dhw68k.cts.com (David H. Wolfskill)
Subject: dhw68k[.cts.com] very sick
Summary: Suggest you avoid passing mail through dhw68k.
Organization: Wolfskill & Dowling residence; Anaheim, CA (USA)
Distribution: oc
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:32:34 GMT

This machine (dhw68k, or, "dhw68k.cts.com" if you're formal) is very
sick -- it has been shutting off all of its serial ports (by
de-asserting DTR) for no known reason.  Shutting the machine down,
removing the boards, vacuuming, and re-installing the boards (and
powering back up) seems to help it to limp along a while longer, but I'm
not at all certain how much longer I can keep it going -- I do, after
all, have both a real job and a real life.

Therefore, as much as it pains me to admit it, I recommend that y'all
avoid passing mail through dhw68k; it is not sufficiently reliable.

:-(,
david
-- 
David H. Wolfskill			david@dhw68k.cts.com
From: ckchiu@cucs11.cs.cuhk.hk (CHIU Chong-kan)
Newsgroups: news.config
Subject: How to change News server ?
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:57:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: cucs5.1992Oct15.125738.26354
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong


Our news server only subscribe a number of news groups.  As a user,
is there any way for me to change the server (connect to another
server) ?

Please E-mail to me !  All help appreciated !!!

C.K.Chiu
From: memco@cns.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: news.config
Subject: test
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:12:27 GMT
Reply-To: memco@cns.nyu.edu
Organization: New York University

Sorry, just a test.
From: mitchell@ncs.dnd.ca (Robert D. Mitchell)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: NETWORK TERMINOLOGY
Keywords: LAN, NETWORK, TERMINOLOGY, TERMS
Date: 9 Oct 92 00:31:53 GMT
Organization: DND, Ottawa, CANADA


Could someone please indicate where I can find a Glossary of terms
relating to NETWORKS, LANS and the like.  The Glossary would ideally
include descriptive specifications for such terms as 10 Base T, 10 Base
5, etc.  eg; What is the difference between a concentrator and a hub?

Hoping to hear from someone.

Thanks.

Bob M.
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: bjhille@iastate.edu (Brian J Hille)
Subject: GIFs
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:07:52 GMT

	How do you post GIFs on a newsgroup and how do you download them from a newsgroup.  Also, how would you send a GIF via e-mail.  Anyhelp would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.




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 ___|______\_______            YOU Bob!"                  Mech. Eng.
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  ()          ()        General Motors rules the road
From: wc4209@writer.yorku.ca (Irene Berkovich)
Subject: The Gate--access to
Originator: wc4209@innis
Organization: Computer Assisted Writing Centre, York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:38:03 GMT

Does anyone know how to access The Gate (at university of Wyoming?)
which is a BBS with shareware available.  The instructions given were
to connect to MODEM.UWYO.EDU and then type ATDT then a tel number.
How to I connect up with the above address in the first place?
I tried telnet>open modem.uwyo.edu
but it didn't work (connection timed out)
Any suggestions?
Thanks.


Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Subject: Re: Kellog corp. in Battle Creek, Mi
Followup-To: cwyble@micom.com
Reply-To: J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@larc.nasa.gov>
Organization: AS&M Inc
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:26:08 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.201036.18099@micom.com> cwyble@micom.com (Charlie Wyble (PROG)) writes:

   My sister has just started work at the Kellog Corp. in Mich.  Does anyone
   know if Kellog is on the Internet or at least has a mail feed ??

   All information is appriciated.

   cwyble@micom.com

Contacting Kellogg's IS staff is the best way to find out.  If you
want to use the net, soc.net-people is the place to ask.  See the
FAQ on How to Find People's E-mail Addresses in news.answers.  If
it's expired, wait until it's posted again.  Or use anonymous ftp
to wander around rtfm.mit.edu:/pub/usenet.  Or send the message
"help" to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu.

Good luck.
--
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    employed by, not speaking for, AS&M Inc, at
         NASA LaRC, Hampton VA 23681-0001
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: political stock market
From: doug.krile@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (Doug Krile) 
Date: 10 Oct 92 21:26:00 GMT
Reply-To: doug.krile@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (Doug Krile) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The GrapeVine BBS *** N. Little Rock, AR *** (501) 753-8121

Subj: Political "stock market" over Internet??

>>There was a story of NPR this morning about a Internet (they used the
>>word accessible "political stock" market in which one can by

I KNOW it's from the University of Iowa (my alma mater)...NBC fed a
story about the operation to it's affiliates recently, although I don't
think it aired nationally.  I'd suggest contacting either the Business
Department at Iowa..or the University Information Office.  The stock
program has been fairly high profile lately..ANY university office
should know of it.
From: jmcmahon@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jim McMahon)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: FTP List with Files ?
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:35:31 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris) writes:

>ai118@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Zidonis) writes:
>: 
>: In a previous article, ricky@mindvox.phantom.com (Richard Velez) says:
>: 
>: >Can anyone tell me where I could a list of all the FTP which offers Files 
>: >for downloading ??. Thanks...
>: >
>: news.answers
>: -- 

>News.answers does have the FAQ list of sites for downloading from. However
>if you are looking for program names, you are out of luck, there are 
>too many to put into a FAQ. Use the archie services to locate what you
>want, or gopher.


You may want to investigate the SIMDIR program, which is a database of files
available at simtel and mirror sites.  One mirror site where you can get it
is wuarchive.wustl.edu in the mirrors/msdos/filedocs directory.  Look for
SIMDIR21.ZIP and SIMIBM.ARC (or later versions).  You should also read the
AAAREADME file (I think that is the name of it) for info on the different
programs that can use the list.  This is only good for MSDOS files, but there
may be similar databases for other systems.




>Think about how big the list of programs would be if written down. The FAQ
>of sites alone spans 4+ messages.
>--
>Mary E. S. Morris    |  The future exists first in imagination, then
>mesm@netcom.COM      |  in will, then in reality. -- Galivan Burwell
>=====================================================================
>Netcom - Online Communication Services San Jose, CA
--
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jmcmahon@cwis.unomaha.edu or 
strathost.stratcom.af.mil
Being ordinary and nothing special is a full-time job.
From: katherine.cook@EMCB.CC.UTAH.EDU (KATHERINE COOK)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: La Chiesa Cattolica
Keywords: Politica
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:38:40 GMT
Organization: University of Utah


	Desidero sapere se qualcuno mi potrebbe auitare.  Devo fare un 
compito in merito della chiesa cattolica e il ruolo che ha nella sistema 
politica italiana.  Anche il ruolo che ha nell storia contmporanea.  Grazie,
Katherine
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: king@rtsg.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist)
Subject: Re: Star trek newsgroup
Reply-To: king@rtsg.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 12:21:06 GMT

HAGERS@QUCDN.QueensU.CA publicly declared:
>I there a newsgroup for Star Trek?

Yes, a whole bunch of them.  Here's the list:

  rec.arts.startrek.current    New Star Trek shows, movies and books.
  rec.arts.startrek.fandom     Star Trek conventions and memorabilia.
  rec.arts.startrek.info       Information about the universe of Star Trek.
  rec.arts.startrek.misc       General discussions of Star Trek.
  rec.arts.startrek.tech       Star Trek's depiction of future technologies.

This was pulled from the article "List of Active Newsgroups", posted by
Gene Spafford periodically to news.lists, news.groups,
news.announce.newusers, news.announce.newgroups, and news.answers.
Definately THE place to look for any question starting with "Is there a
newsgroup for..."

>If so, how do I subscribe to it?

The same way you subscribe to any other newsgroup.  The exact method
depends entirely on what newsreader software you're using.  If we had
any idea what that is we might be able to help, but since we don't we
can't.  Read the manual and/or online help, ask other users at your
site, ask your system administrator.  The *BEST* resources are the
local ones, especially the system administrators.  They know how your
system is set up and can help you find the easiest way to do what you
want.

>Thanks in advance, I am completely lost!

You're welcome, and I hope you're less lost now.

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You don't know how much you don't know until you       |      Steven King
know a lot.                                            |   Motorola Cellular
                                       (Nick Holland)  |   king@rtsg.mot.com
From: cd930@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Zihao Michael Gao)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: How do I retrieve a file?
Date: 7 Oct 1992 21:10:33 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Hi, there.  Does anyone there know how to retrieve a file in newsgroups into hi
his own computer?  Thanks in advance for help.
From: houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joshua Houk)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Quante etc...
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:54:36 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

Is someone writing down email addresses?

:)

Joshua Houk
-- 
houk@athena.cs.uga.edu * email for rockin' indie-list info!
From: ta@slc1.UUCP (Tony Alicea)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: FTP Site/Directory for "How To Start A New...
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:16:14 GMT
Reply-To: ta@arinc.com
Organization: Aeronautical Radio, Inc., Annapolis


Can someone tell me (via e-mail) the ftp address & directory/filename
where I can ftp "HOW TO CREATE A NEW NEWSGROUP", please? 

Thanks,

Tony
ta@arinc.com
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D.)
Subject: SLIP information?
Summary: Looking for information about SLIP
Keywords: SLIP, HP-UX, Macintosh, SunOS
Reply-To: aland@cs.brandeis.edu
Organization: As little as possible
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 02:07:49 GMT

Helo, and help.

I'm looking for information about SLIP.  In particular, we have a
professor here who wants SLIP on his workstation; could it be set up
through other machines?  (eg. dialing in through a vax, telnetting or
rlogin /eight_bit from the vax to a machine running HP-UX or Sun-OS.)

I want to know what some of the hassles are in installing,
configuring, & running SLIP, if it has to be up & running on the
'immediate host', etc.

Also, I'm interested in information about SLIP clients for the
Macintosh.

If you have any information, or know where I should look, please let
me know through email or posting (either is fine).

Thanks,
	-=Alan
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: king@rtsg.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist)
Subject: Re: .tar files and batch files
Reply-To: king@rtsg.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: co
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:09:50 GMT

schwarte@CS.ColoState.EDU (eric schwartz) publicly declared:
>Well, I got the source code for a cool program (Nethack 3.0) via anonymous ftp,
>and got through the uudecode and the uncompress stages, and now I'm left with
>21 Src#.tar files that I don't know what to do with. Can anyone help? also,
>how can I write a UN*X batch file to take care of the resulting actions 
>(I got tired of typing uudecode Src1.tar.Z.uu, uudecode Src2.tar.Z.uu, etc.)

Run, do not walk, to a bookstore and find a book on Unix shell
programming.  Trust me.  You'll want to do this (or something like it)
again someday.  Probably tomorrow.

Now, assuming that you're using csh (or a variant like tcsh), here's a
little script to do the job:

    foreach uufile (*.uu)
      set comprfile = $uufile:r
      set tarfile = $comprfile:r
      uudecode $uufile
      uncompress $comprfile
      tar -xvf $tarfile
    end

In fact, you don't even need a script; you can do foreach loops just as
well from the command line.  I'm not going to explain what each part
does; I don't have time or inclination to be Mr. Csh Tutor.  Read the
book.  Like Prego spaghetti sauce: It's in there.

If you use sh, ksh, bash, or any other shell the concept is the same
but the actual commands are different.  Read the book, or ask people
around you how to do it.

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You don't know how much you don't know until you       |      Steven King
know a lot.                                            |   Motorola Cellular
                                       (Nick Holland)  |   king@rtsg.mot.com
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Wednesday, 30 Sep 1992 17:46:35 EDT
From: Spartacus At Cuny <I18BC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: How to Email to MCIMail from Internet?

Hi folks,

   I gotta question.  How do I Email someone on MCI Mail from the internet?
How do I compose the Email address?  Please Email me with the answer if
you can...Thanks.
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     I18BC@CunyVM.Cuny.Edu    |      Brooklyn College Of The
     I18BC@CunyVM.BitNet      |      City University Of New York
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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: bell@cs.tamu.edu (Will Bell)
Subject: Re: listserv/bitnet
Keywords: listserv bitnet
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 07:36:26 GMT

Edo gives some good words about Bitnet listservs.  (Thanks Edo, I was too
tired to type it in myself.)

>  There are help documents about listservs, in each listserv in
>a BITNET host, and in some informational servers in BITNET, you 
>can retrieve it sending commands in the body mail to 
>LISTSERV@{some-host}.BITNET (try the 'HELP' command :-)

one such listserv is listserv@tamvm1(.bitnet).  In the days when I was
a bitnet type, sending mail to a listserv that was not "your" local
listserv would get you a reply telling you which one *was* your local
listserv.

Translation:  send mail to listserv@tamvm1 and it ought to at least
respond with a better place to send your request.

Disclaimer:  it's been a long time since I've fiddled with bitnet.  Any
or all of this stuff may have changed (except the listserv@tamvm1 address).

WBB
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"I prefer to have life filtered through television."             
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: king@rtsg.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist)
Subject: Re: Mail from Internet to Prodigy?
Reply-To: king@rtsg.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 11:31:48 GMT

erics@sco.COM (eric smith) publicly declared:
>Interesting reversal of position on Prodigy's part. A while back they
>were saying there would never be an Internet gateway; it was not possible
>because their internal communications were not in ascii format (!).
>I wonder how it suddenly became possible?

Because the finally figured out how to charge for it?

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You don't know how much you don't know until you       |      Steven King
know a lot.                                            |   Motorola Cellular
                                       (Nick Holland)  |   king@rtsg.mot.com
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: c498017@cs.UAlberta.CA (Tokarsky James)
Subject: Trouble with rz
Summary: How to use rz 
Organization: University of Alberta
Distribution: can
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 05:27:12 GMT

  I am currently useing Procomm 2.0 and can't seem to upload to a Unix
system using rz.  The transfer simply aborts.  I usually end up using
Kermit (aakk!).  I have no trouble using sz to download files from the
Unix system.

  Please e-mail all respsonses to me, thanks.
From: krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'krikket' Krick)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: FTP available to AmigaDOS?
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:06:29 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

In article <bob.00cb@bpamiga.pegasus.com>, bob@bpamiga.pegasus.com (Bob
Proffitt) writes:
>Is software available for AmigaDOS to allow me to FTP files to my
>Amiga?

Not at this time.  The UUCP software simulated a "Unix to Unix CoPy"
enviornment, not an InterNet connection, which is what is needed to FTP.

>I am currently using AmigaUUCP v1.16d. I have been told, "You are
>welcome to connect and FTP files.", from a local archive.  I need soft-
>ware and guidance to proceed.

A few of us are hoping the software will be written...  Then again a few of us
would also like an InterNet connection...  Too damn expensive...

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From: ai118@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Zidonis)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Where to ask Freenet questions
Date: 9 Oct 1992 20:46:33 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ai118@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Zidonis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


Cleveland Freenet has the following freenet/internet help areas:

freenet.admin.questions
freenet.admin.info
freenet.bugs
freenet.rec.inet.general
freenet.rec.inet.qa

FYI - RAZ
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RAZ     ai118@cleveland.freenet.edu
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions