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From: joel@writer.yorku.ca (Joel Atkin)
Subject: Re: Latest Prices
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 21:33:29 GMT

With all these descrepancies b/w different pricing schemes in
university bookstores, can a student purchase a computer at another
bookstore?  We're all students with valid Student I.D. cards.
Right?


joel


joel@writer.yorku.ca
From: tom@jeeves.ucsd.edu (Tom Pfender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: DAT drive and DDS tapes
Keywords: DAT drive
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:19:00 GMT
Distribution: usa

Our department has purchased a Hewlett Packard DAT drive (HP 35480A SCSI) for
backups. In the product description manual (yes I did read it!) it calls
for a DDS type of tape (4mm). According to the manual, a standard DAT tape
will (or may) cause the tape to jam in the machine. Has anyone had experience
with a DAT drive using the Digital Data Storage (DDS) format? Is it true about 
the dangers of using something other than a DDS tape? Do I HAVE to use a DDS 
tape? Is the only advantage of using a DDS tape data compression? 

The reason for this inquiry is I am having a little diffiuclty finding
DDS tapes. We have a lot of machines to backup and would like to use 90
foot tapes but can only find two places that even carry DDS tape and only
one of those two carry the 90 foot type. Is there a place to mail order
in quantity at a good price per tape? (for DDS tapes). Anybody have an
idea what the cost per tape should be? I have been to COMP-USA here
is San Diego CA and have purchased 90 foot DDS tape (SONY) for $24 per tape.

Thanks in advance for advice, suggestion, comments, opinions and any flames
regarding our choice of hardware!!

-tom
tpfender@ucsd.edu
 
-- 

-tom
tpfender@ucsd.edu
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From: rashid@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert G Rashid)
Subject: Re: 21M Flopticals?
Keywords: flopticals, removable disks
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:07:21 GMT

This probably does not directly answer the original post, (startup
cost is almost double the cost of a floptical drive), but I have been
using the new Bernoulli Multidisk 150 for about a week now, with very
satisfactory results.  I ran my own cost/meg comparison and then also
factored in disk speed.  I initially was looking for optical, but
don't anticipate need for more than 1G.

Some comments on the Bernoulli:

The Multi 150 is backwards compatible with the 90.  (They claim that
there is a slower read/write, or something, however, it will read and
write to the 90M disks).  It also reads/writes to 35, 65, and 105
disks.

When compared to the Syquests, it is much faster for startup and
spindown.

They guarantee media for 5 years.  This will not necessarily resurrect
lost data, but will save the cost of new media in case of a failure.
The mechanism of the disk/drive is such that it is hard to destroy
data by head crashes, etc.

There is a drive that is specifically for the Mac (at a cheaper
price), or one designed for use on Mac or PC (or other platforms,
also).  

They are just starting to show up in the back of the Mac rags, and
bear looking at.

Disclaimer:  Just a satisfied end-user of the Bernoulli drive.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:13:25 -0500 
From: "Brian J. Cardanha" <bc2t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: PhoneNET
	<tcora-270193104206@b329-gator-1.pica.army.mil>

In article <C1GKzy.Gvx@cs.vu.nl>, abbestee@cs.vu.nl (Wouter Abbestee)
wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Isn't it possible to use a stylewriter-cable to hook up two macs? Or
could this dammage the powersupply?

The only thing that would be bad, is if both the computers try and send
information at the exact same time.  But since the information is sent
in small bursts (3 to 4 microseconds), the chances of this happening are
rather slim.  And no, that won't damage the power supply, the port is
designed to handle spikes of 25v at 150 mA, so don't worry about the
power supply.  I've actually done this, so that I could play against a
friend in Spectre.

Hope that helps,
Brian Cardanha
bc2t@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: photo@theporch.raider.net
Subject: Re: ?? on new macs and 7.1
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:03:27 GMT
Organization: MacInteresteds, Nashville's Macintosh User Group

aschked@storm.CS.ORST.EDU (David Aschkenasy) writes:

>	2. Does system 7.1 cripple macs? should I instal 7.0.1 on my new mac?


No, system 7.1 does not cripple Macs; there's just a few people out there
who don't like it for one reason or another.  However, the vx will not take
7.0.1.  You can only use 7.1.  I have a vx and I'm using it and... I'm happy
with it.

-David Anderson
Nashville TN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: j_macgown@csc32.enet.dec.com
Subject: New APS Quantum 240 disk goes into seek mode
Reply-To: j_macgown@coors.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Colorado Springs, CO
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 11:16:41 GMT


Hi,

	I have a new APS Quantum LPS240 external disk that every 30-60 seconds goes
into seek mode for about 2-3 seconds. It does this even when the disk isn't plug
into the Mac. If I just have the power applied to the drive and at least one scsi
cable or terminator connected it does this.

	I called APS and the first guy I got said that it wasn't normal and had me
check some jumpers on the drive. The second guy I called said that it was normal
for the disk to do this when it is idle to fix a 'sticktion' problem. When it
does
this the drive access light doesn't come on.

	Is this realy normal??? 
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From: smisra@eos.ncsu.edu (SAURABH MISRA)
Subject: If only the PB100 came back 
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:21:00 GMT

The IIsi is now cheaper than a Powerbook 100!! (J&R Music World)

That means that people really really would like a CHEAP Powerbook. They
don't care if it is only a 68000 or if it has no internal floppy disk.
Just a portable Macintosh that they can use the occasional (or frequent)
times they need it away from their desktop machine.  If a new Powerbook
was realeased with only a 16Mhz 68000 (but with the similiar PB design)
and WITH AN INTERNAL FLOPPY drive, and was priced under $800 I bet it
would be the hit of the decade.  $800 is not an unreasonable figure for
the Powerbook with an internal drive.  Just 3 months ago you could get
a 100 with an external floppy NEW for a little less than that.

So with prices getting cheaper and cheaper for technology,
it may even be possible to make the Powerbook 150? that would 
have a 16Mhz 68030 and still be under that price.  THAT would REALLY be the
sellout of the century.  But for some reason all the new powerbooks cost
at least $2000 and have features that are nice but they are not a necessity.
Most of all many people just can't justify spending $2000 for a second
Mac.  And the fact that your portable is most powerful than your desktop
may be a point that many don't get the 145 or 160. And getting a new Duo
System may be too much for many.   

I hope Apple is reading this.  If you agree with this just post a one liner
followup.........

Saurabh
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: keifling@dolores.Stanford.EDU (Steve Keifing)
Subject: Video switchbox for PC<->Mac?
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: comp
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:06:50

I have a PC with an NEC 4FG (Mac-compatible) monitor, and my wife (who
hates DOS and all it stands for) wants to get a Mac for her own use.
Does someone make a cheap video switchbox that allows switching
between video inputs, so we can easily share the same monitor?  Has
anyone actually tried doing this?

Thanks for any info,
Steve
From: erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: New Apple Products in Feb 10
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 08:37:18 PDT
Organization: Reigning Cats and Dogs
Reply-To: erics@infoserv.com
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


Sam Swett <ssbc+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

> Centris 650           25 mHz'040                                $2699

Sounds like that will blow the IIvx out of the water.

-----
Eric Smith
erics@infoserv.com
CI$: 70262,3610


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: mtb43681@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike B.)
Subject: Classic II Accelerator
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 21:34:43 GMT

Does anyone know of a 680xx accelerator for the Classic II. It seem like
there is one for every Mac except mine.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: echriste@afit.af.mil (Eric R. Christensen)
Subject: Repair for Apple 13" HiRes RGB Monitor
Followup-To: Apple 13" HiRes RGB Monitor Failure
Originator: echriste@wb10
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:24:54 GMT


Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 16:52:35 -0800
Message-Id: <9301230052.AA15450@apple.com>
From: wingo@apple.com (Tony Wingo)
To: echriste@afit.af.mil (Eric R. Christensen)
Subject: Re: Apple 13" HiRes RGB Monitor Failure
Organization: Apple Computer
Status: R

In article <1993Jan22.151200.3478@afit.af.mil>, you wrote:
> 
> I have had a MACII with a 13in Apple HiRes Monitor and an 8 bit video
> card for about 5 years.  A couple of weeks ago the monitor quit.  When
> I took the powere supply out it was discoverd that some wires were cold
> soldered.  These wires were resoldered and all worked fine for about
> 2 weeks.  Earlier this week the monitor just shutoff.  I restarted the
> system and the monitor came up fine and stayed on.  This morning the
> monitor again shut off.  I shut down and restarted the monitor came up
> again but then shut down almost immediately and wouldn't restart.  I
> waited about a half an hour and tried it again and it came up ok and 
> has remained on for the last 2 hours.
> 

This sounds like the defecttive Hi Voltage Capacitor problem. 

The following quote descibes the problem and solution

--begin quote

	"A defective high-voltage capacitor in certain displays
	manufactured between March 1990 and July 22, 1991, can cause the
	Mac as well as the monitor to shut down unexpectedly. the affected
	monitors reportedly have serial numbers in the following ranges...

	7000001 - 7101012, 5378111-5624450 and 9000001- 9029500

	The repair program officially called the 13" RGB High Voltage 
	Capacitor Repair Extention Program, provides for free replacement
	of failed capacitors until March 15,1993.

	Users who have already paid authorized Apple service providers for
	out-of-warrenty repairs to correct the problem are eligible for
	reimbursement if they submit doc by Aug 15 to ..

	APPLE computer Inc.
	Attn: High Voltage Capacitor Reimbursement 
	P. O. Box 17214
	Denver, colorado 80217
	Further info call: (303) 297-2321" 

--end quote

Note that the repair program ends at the end of March, so if your unit's
serial number falls in the appropriate range, get it fixed asap.

-tony

>>usual disclaimer<<

I hope the above helps for those experiencing the intermittent monitor 
failure problem

Eric Christensen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: aggie@wealthy.ocean.fsu.edu (I R A Aggie)
Subject: Re: Street Fighter
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.games
Organization: An Ol Ag surrounded by a bunch of unfriendly Seminoles
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 12:27:12 GMT

In article <ibhan.727938294@husc.harvard.edu>, ibhan@husc8.harvard.edu
(Ishir Bhan) wrote:
> 
> In <aggie-240193172112@wealthy.ocean.fsu.edu> aggie@wealthy.ocean.fsu.edu (I R A Aggie) writes:
> 
> >Stuff and Nonsense. Hellcats, Falcon, Spectre, Prince of Persia, Solarian
> >II, Pararena, Maelstrom and Lunatic Fringe all manage decent (if not
> >better) animation WITHOUT having to ignore the OS.
> 
> Lovely, but check out the subject heading.  I agree with you, these games
> are good, but they are nothing compared to what a Super NES could do.

The Subject heading says Street Fighter, right? I haven't seen one
valid reason offered why such a game couldn't be programmed on the
Mac. I've seen a lot of whining and moaning and pissing in beer, tho.

If you want games for the Mac, start buying them. Don't "borrow" them.
If the publishers see a market, they'll move to provide for it. If you
can't be bothered to do that, then go out and by a d*mn SNES and be
done with it.

Followups to c.s.m.games, since this is a software problem, not a hardware
one.

James
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: mortea@rs6218.ecs.rpi.edu (Alan O. Mortensen)
Subject: RISC upgradeable????
Reply-To: mortea@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:49:34 GMT

I've been weighting to buy a mac for quite awhile for various reasons(usually
monetary in nature) and now that I am finally soon to be in a condition to 
buy one I start to get scared off by this powerPC stuff.  I know I will not 
be able to get a powerPC when they come out, if I buy a computer now, but I 
may be able to buy an upgrade.  So what it comes down to is this:  

Will the Quadra 800 or the Centris machines be powerPC upgradeable and is it worth the worry performance-wise to skip the Quadra800 if it is not? 


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From: aschked@storm.CS.ORST.EDU (David Aschkenasy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: ?? on new macs and 7.1
Date: 21 Jan 1993 22:12:59 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Oregon State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: storm.cs.orst.edu

Hello all.
	I ordered a IIvx in the begining of Jan. It won't arrive until the 
    middle of Feb. I have two questions; hopefully someone can answer them.

	    1. Whats this I here about new Macs on Feb. 10? Will they be faster,
	stronger, cooler, better, cheaper than my shiny new vx? I paid $2600
	for the vx 5/80 1M VRAM CD-ROM. This price was with an edu discount.
	Should I not take delivery on my vx?

	2. Does system 7.1 cripple macs? should I instal 7.0.1 on my new mac?


		Thanks in advance,
		David Aschkenasy
		aschked@storm.cs.orst.edu
From: stump1+@pitt.edu (Robert E Mitchell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Serial Port Problems
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:24:03 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: stump1@unixd2.cis.pitt.edu


	I have a REALLY irritating problem.  With my Modem Port.
The machine is a MacIIfx.  A while back I had one of those Teleport
ADB Modems, and it emulated the serial modem port.  I never had to
actually use the modem port phisically for anything.  Well, I got 
a new modem recently and tried to plug it in to the modem port.  No
response.  Then I tried my deskwriter there.  No dice either.  The
serial port appears to be closed.  I SERIOUSLY doubt that it is 
damaged in any way.  

What is the cure for this malady.  I read from someone else in this
group that he was experiencing the same problem.  Is there a solution
(ie: would the PRAM thing help, or would I need special software).
Anything that is shareware would be appreciated.

I really need help here.  Please E-mail response to stump1@oss7q.cis.pitt.edu


Thanks in advance...


Stump (Robert Eric Mitchell)

BTW, I may call Global Village to see if this is a "frequent" problem.
From: ak354@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dennis Mc Guire)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Mono Monitors
Date: 23 Jan 1993 19:32:33 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


  A few years back there was a hardware hack for the Macintosh 
Plus that allowed connecting an Atari SM124 (mono) as a second
monitor.  Does anyone know where I cna find the details on this.
Please reply in E-Mail.
From: cjr1@pacs.pha.pa.us ( Christopher Rooney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Which memory for Mac Plus?
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:07:12 GMT
Organization: Philadelphia Area Computer Society

Quoth oueichek@gram (Ibaa Oueichek) in article <C1793o.9zt@imag.fr>:
-> Bob Feldman (rfeldman@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU) wrote:
-> : We have a Mac Plus which we'd like to upgrade to 1 MB SIMMS.  We ordered
->   Did you cut the resistors r8 and r9 ?. One of them means "256 KB SIMMS ARE
->   USED" so it should be cut. Both of them should be cut if you put 4 1MB SIMMS
->   ( i don't remember the definition of the second one, but i'm absolutely sure
->   you have to cut both of them, i've done that myself several times).

Before you get too free with those pliers,  I've got 4 MB installed in my
Plus, and I only cut the R8 resistor, back when I first installed 2 2MB
SIMMs.  I never cut anything else when I installed the other two, and I've
never seen/heard/read any indication that you should cut anything else.  I
have had no problems.  I would advise that you cut only the R8 resistor and
try rebooting.  I think you'll find that it works fine.  It's harder to
UN-cut a resistor than it is to cut it ;-).

-- 
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   "Hey, don't try to out-weird me--I get stranger 
     things than you in my breakfast cereal!"    --ZAPHOD BEEBLEBROX
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jrg@punch (James R. Goble)
Subject: Re: HELP!: HP DeskWriter vs. StyleWriter II
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation; El Segundo, CA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:45:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.212916.14725@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>  
hm002b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (PRIMUS SUCKS!) writes:
> In article:
> The subject header says it all. I am considering the purchase of a new  
Inkjet
> printer I was wondering if anyone has any reasons why I should buy the
> StyleWriter II over the DeskWriter. I will be using the printer on my  
SE/30
> running System 7.01 and basically I will be doing fairly heavy printing
> using EXCEL and a little wordprocessor printing. From what I saw the  
print
> quality between the two was nearly the same. The HP seemed to be built a
> little better and it also seems a bit faster. The biggest advantage of  
teh
> StyleWriter II is the 15 sheet auto envelope feeder. Is there anything I  
am
> missing? Any comments will be appreciated, thank you!
> Hasit
> BTW- I would appreciate it if someone could tell me approx how many  
pages I
> will be able to print from one ink cartrigde on each printer.
>   

Well, the Stylewriter II supports grayscale printing (100 shades) and will  
print in the background.  That may be important to you.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: butler@quest.comm.mot.com (Jim Butler)
Subject: My Quantum 105 has the shakes.  Ideas? 
Reply-To: butler@quest.comm.mot.com (Jim Butler)
Organization: Land Mobile Products Sector, Motorola, Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:50:11 GMT



	Hello everyone,

	I've got a Quantum LPS105 that's generating vibration within my SE.

	I installed the drive some months ago, and since that time I've
noticed that the Mac shakes much more than it ever used to. 

	At times, the vibration is enough to start the case shaking (some
case resonance is being excited).  This is, of course, annoying.

	To pinpoint the problem, I disconnected the internal fan (in case
it was the culprit) but the problem remained.  Since the only rotating
component left is the drive, I'm assuming that it is the source of the 
"problem".

	I would suspect that this type of behaviour is unusual, since a 
hard drive is a fairly precise piece of machinery (as consumer items go).

	Am I sitting on a time bomb?

	Jim


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From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: ?? on new macs and 7.1
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:36:15 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

aschked@storm.CS.ORST.EDU (David Aschkenasy) writes:

>I ordered a IIvx in the begining of Jan. It won't arrive until the
>middle of Feb. I have two questions; hopefully someone can answer them.

    The wait, I believe, is due to low supplies of the new CD-ROM drive.
I have heard of people getting IIvx's without the CD-ROM in a couple of
weeks.

>1. Whats this I here about new Macs on Feb. 10? Will they be faster,
>stronger, cooler, better, cheaper than my shiny new vx? I paid $2600 for
>the vx 5/80 1M VRAM CD-ROM. This price was with an edu discount.  Should
>I not take delivery on my vx?

    There will be a number of new macs introduced on Feb. 10th, but
unless you feel that you can wait until April to have a new computer I
would suggest that you take delivery of the IIvx. But you'll be happy to
know that an upgrade path to a 25Mhz LC040 will be available shortly
after the new macs are released.

>2. Does system 7.1 cripple macs? should I instal 7.0.1 on my new mac?

    Why should system software cripple a mac? At this point in time 7.1
is no better or worse than 7.0.1, but you don't have the option of
choosing your system software. The IIvx will only run 7.1.

--
-Brian V. Hughes 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: fag2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Farul A Ghazali)
Subject: Re: Latest Prices
Reply-To: fag2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Farul A Ghazali)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:59:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.230931.20501@kronos.arc.nasa.gov> kthompso@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Kevin Thompson) writes:
>In article <82084@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt4997b@prism.gatech.EDU (hamza benamar) writes:
>>
>>	Here are the prices, educational must I add, at the GTech
>>  computer store :
>
>What's really amazing to me is how inconsistent these all are from school to
>school.  I don't have the time nor inclination to type in tons of these, but
>here's some examples, from the Stanford guide dated 12/31/92

Basically, edu prices are about 25% off list (I think) and each school
adds a certain amount above the edu prices. For Columbia, it's about
10% above the edu pricing. 

[price comparison deleted]

>It's just really strange that Stanford is *so* much less, than both the
>market and Georgia Tech, on some machines, yet more than GT on others.  And
>both schools have far better prices than UC-Irvine, which is where I'm a
>student (sigh, that's why I bought mine on the open market).

I think the largest difference is for the older machines ie. IIsi and
LCII. The newer machines are quite similarly priced. And if you think
it's expensive in Stanford or GT, try NYC. :-)

>
>Kevin Thompson
>


     -- farul ghazali.
        columbia university in the city of new york.

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