HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Robert.Hartill@cm.cf.ac.uk (Rob)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Fred Fish stats
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:04:02 GMT
Organization: Computing Maths (COMMA), UWCC, Wales, UK

Does anyone know the answers or can point me
in the direction of the answers to the following
questions regarding Fred Fish disks.

 -  How many Mb of uncompressed files are there.
 -  How many differnet programs/packages (excluding upgrades)
      are there

Any other similar info will also be appreciated.

--
    ____Robert Hartill, Dept Of Computing Mathematics, UWCC, Cardiff, UK.____
    \______e-mail : rhl@cm.cf.ac.uk _________ Fax : +44 (0)222 666182_______/
   The great tragedy of Science - the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an
		     ugly fact.     - Thomas Henry Huxley.
From: cs89ssg@brunel.ac.uk (Sunil Gupta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: F\*CKING IBM'ERS!
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:40:43 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
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I.A. Inman (I.A.Inman@newcastle.ac.uk) wrote:

: In article <VAGLE.20.727389764@hauk.hsr.no>, VAGLE@hauk.hsr.no (Vagle, Lars) writes:

: It seems everyone has forgotten about the old enemy - ATARI.

: Why can't we all get back to slagging them off, I mean with their Falcon, they're
: asking for it.   I'm sorry, but IBM'ers are BORING. :)

Well had you watched the teeny bopper games master program on telly here in 
the UK, your wish would have come true

three top bods from the Atari, Acorn and Commodore were quizeed about their
spanking new 32 bit machines

I forget most of the names, but Kelly Sumner was the Commodore Rep, Im doing
this from memory so the quotes may be technically inaccurate, but you'll get the jist of it

Q1) what graphics capabilities do your machines have
 Atari man: (confidentally) 256 from X thousand colour pallete
 Acorn man: (wimpishly) 16 colours from X hundred colours
 Kelly C= : (Manic grin) 16 Million colours (Smug)

Q2) what sound capabilities does your machine offer
 Atari man: (confidentally) 8  16 bit sound
 Acon man : (proud) 8  8 bit sound
 Kelly    : (quiet, dejected) err 4 channel stereo

Q3) what games are available
 Atari man: (confidentally) 16 titles are under development
 Acorn Man: (confident) 25 existing titles 200 being developed
 Kelly	  : (jeery grin) 2500 titles work, many more being developed

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: fnf@fishpond.uucp (Fred Fish)
Subject: Re: Fred Fish and no more fishes??
Organization: Amiga Library Distribution Services
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:42:47 GMT

In article <C180t1.2z8@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> thwang@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tommy Hwang) writes:
>In article <1jme0vINNh5@escargot.xx.rmit.OZ.AU> s892031@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (Pumpkin Power) writes:
>
>     How do people subscribe to Fred Fish anyway?  

The procedure and price list for a subscription for new disks as they are
released is included in a file on each disk.  To summarize, just send
payment in U.S. dollars (check, bank draft, etc) and indicate what disk
to start with.  The current lowest rate is $3/disk for 100 or more, but
if enough new subscribers sign up, I expect to drop the price to $2
(which would also apply to any subscribers that sign up at the $3 rate
of course).

-Fred


-- 
|\/ o\  Fred Fish, 1835 E. Belmont Drive, Tempe, AZ 85284,  USA
|/\__/  1-602-491-0048 {asuvax,mcdphx,cygint,amix}!fishpond!fnf
From: etxpihl@eua.ericsson.se (Tomas Pihl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Stefan Boberg not replying on LhA regi
Date: 27 Jan 93 12:37:12 GMT
Reply-To: etxpihl@eua.ericsson.se
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden

In article 7959@news.cs.indiana.edu, "Stefan G. Berg" <sgberg@banana.ucs.indiana.edu> () writes:
>shulick@cineret.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick) writes:
>
>>Last I heard, Stefan (Boberg :) was on his compulsory military service
>>thingie.  I don't know how long they last over there in Europe.
>
>Hi Sam! ;)
>
>I got lots of responses telling me that he is learning how to fight. :)
>So there seems no question anymore to his sudden disappearing.
>
>In Germany it`s a year if I remember right (they never wanted me :( ). I
>believe that one year is about the lower bound for most countries. If
>we take Sweden to be similar in this respect then we can expect Stefan
>to be back in Summer (earliest). Maybe somebody from Sweden could help
>us out.

If his doing the military service he'll get out around April (depends on
what you're doing). I don't know this for sure since they didn't want me
either :-), but atleast all of my friend got out in March/April.

________________________________________
/ Tomas Pihl
/ ELLEMTEL Telecom Systems Lab, Sweden
/ email:   etxpihl@eua.ericsson.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: Blaine Lundy <blundy1@agt.ab.ca>
Subject: 386 Bridgeboard can't print. HELP!
X-Xxdate: Tue, 26 Jan 93 10:09:54 GMT
Organization: AGT Ltd. - Research and Development
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 17:16:19 GMT

Situation:
	I have an A3000 with a 386 Bridgeboard and the newest Janus software
(2.1?). I recently bought a multi-feature pc card for the bridgeboard
which gave me SVGA, an IDE controller, and I/O ports. Among the I/O ports
is a port for LPT1:. The card cannot disable this port or move it to
LPT2:. The janus software allows for LPT1: Emulation through software.

Problem:
	I cannot print from either the Janus emulation or the physical port!
There is probably a conflict in the allocation of the LPT1: port, but
what can I do about it? Can the emulation provided by Janus be disabled?
Or can the physical port on the card be disabled through DOS?

Somebody please help!


***********************************
* Blaine Lundy
* AGT Ltd. - Research and Development
* Internet: blundy1@agt.ab.ca
***********************************
From: bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: NEW AMIGA NEWSGROUP PROPOSAL
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:37:49 +1100
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

mr_scary@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Chris Hurley) writes:
> shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick) writes:
>>
>> Very biff-like subject. :)  Anyway, how about:
>>
>>   comp.sys.amiga.music
>>
>> c.s.a.audio is too general.  That can be digitizers, programming
>> waveforms, etc.  IMO, we definitely need c.s.a.music where people can
>> announce new mods, talk about music programs, etc.!  So what do you say?
>> If this gets enough votes, I'll take it to alt.config and then 'control'
>> and get it created.
>
> I'd like to see this too.  There are so many mods being created that a
> group could be created just for there discussion and announcement.  Plus
> you throw in other types such as Multi-Loop samples, and it should more
> than warrant a new group.

        Well, I don't agree. I have a particular interest in music &
Amigas, but The volume of c.s.a.audio is just too low to justify a totally
new newsgroup for music composing & related matters.

        In a situation where there is a newsgroup that is already relevent
to a subject, you have to show some very good reasons why you want to
create a new newsgroup for a *specific* subject. Those reasons are mostly
"newsgroup x is so busy that a new newsgroup is needed because of the
high level of interest in subject y".  Unfortunately, c.s.a.audio doesn't
rate as being particularly busy and it is the most relevent newsgroup for
the topics you want seperated into a new group.

        Sorry, while I am very interested in music on the Amiga (I run
about Austalian$6,000 of music gear from my Amiga), a new newsgroup
just isn't justified at this point in time.

           Bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au  OR  bull@monu1.cc.monash.oz
                    DOD# 251  '84 VF 750   Closet Ducatisto
             Disclaimer. If you love your llama, let it lambada.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: fnf@fishpond.uucp (Fred Fish)
Subject: Re: Fred Fish and no more fishes??
Organization: Amiga Library Distribution Services
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:08:12 GMT

In article <18730020@hplsla.hp.com> tomb@hplsla.hp.com (Tom Bruhns) writes:
>loyd@seq.uncwil.edu (David Loyd) writes:
>>I downloaded a post concerning the amount of subscribers that Fred Fish
>>disks are sent to and the number is a pitiful 41 worldwide!
>>Support FRED FISH!!
>
>Agreed, to be sure.  But what's the best way to do this?

I've received lots of suggestions via email, phone calls, and postings here
on the net, varying from me placing severe restrictions on the redistribution
of library disks to forming a consortium of volunteers to take over the
library.  For various reasons, I still feel the best overall solution is
simply to get the number of longterm subscribers back up to more reasonable
levels.  As it is right now, besides paying for the actual distribution
costs to send them their disks, the 41 paying subscribers are also funding
the development of new disks and paying other overhead costs, for the
remainder of all users worldwide.


> I had the
>impression that Fred didn't really want to be in the _distribution_
>business

There is a big difference between handling 75-100 longterm regular subscribers,
and filling orders from thousands of random users for 10's of thousands of
disks every month.  The second *is* a distribution business, and this is
*not* something I'd want to be involved in.  The first case can be comfortably
handled by one person spending a couple days duplicating and packaging disks.

>Seems to me that the volume of new releases lately
>has been higher than at some points in the past -- that tells
>me that the service is quite successful.

To keep up with the volume of submissions probably really needs a release
of 10 disks every couple of weeks, but I think this is probably too often.
One release every three weeks is about right, and one release every four
weeks probably means I've gotten too busy with other things.  I don't
really see any radical changes in the rate of releases, except for maybe
the one period a couple years ago where I released three batches of 10
disks each in a period of three weeks, while I was between consulting
jobs and had the time to spend on constructing new disks.

-Fred


-- 
|\/ o\  Fred Fish, 1835 E. Belmont Drive, Tempe, AZ 85284,  USA
|/\__/  1-602-491-0048 {asuvax,mcdphx,cygint,amix}!fishpond!fnf
From: dickow@crow.csrv.uidaho.edu (Bob Dickow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: UUENCODE format?
Date: 25 Jan 93 06:51:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University Of Idaho.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Thomas Clancy (thom@cs.mun.ca) wrote:
: mds@doc.ic.ac.uk (Mark David Simmons) writes:

: >The format for uuencode on all systems is the same:

: >% uuencode infile decodefilename > outfile

: >Which is cryptic...but uuencode was meant to be used to pipe the ASCII file into
: >a mail message on UNIX systems.

: >-Mark

: Tried this, it doesn't seem to work for me. Remember, I CAN use UUENCODE
: on UNIX, I just cannot get the Amiga version working properly.
:  
:  I tired [assuming the file I want to uuencode is called "TEST"]:

:  uuencode TEST TEST >newname.uue
:  etc;
    
    Try 
	 uuencode >newname.uue TEST TEST

    ...previous AmigaDOS needs redirection early in the command line.
    Next to that, maybe your uuencode version is bad. Mine works fine.

    Bob Dickow (dickow@crow.csrv.uidaho.edu)
From: andrey@cco.caltech.edu (Andre T. Yew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Ending this stupid Vivid24 is faster than SGI box claim.
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Date: 28 Jan 1993 01:00:13 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (Psigon Matrix....do you DOUBT us??) writes:

>There was no claim that it's faster then the reality engine...I believe the
>claim was that it's faster then a base indigo.

	[It = DMI Vivid 24]

	The claim was that it's faster than a $200K SGI system,
which includes $100K Reality Engines (and probably some of the
new True Floating Point computers SGI just announced), which is
just a blatant lie.  Even AmigaWorld printed this.

	Also, note the followup line -- advocacy is probably more 
appropriate for this discussion.

--Andre

-- 
             Andre Yew andrey@cco.caltech.edu (131.215.139.2)
From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: CBM Germany
Date: 21 Jan 93 09:07:36 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <1993Jan19.163009.29399@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> TRECZOKS@rhea.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Christian Treczoks) writes:
>
>A friend of mine keeps having problems with the german branch of CBM.
>So do I. So does our local dealer...

Sorry for any inconvenience.

>A friend of mine got an A3000 (one of the last) last week from the local
>dealer. The dealer had this machine in stock for about 2 to 4 weeks.
>But the machine was definitly one of the oldest A3000 ever built -- it
>had no roms (at least no kickstart roms :), and booted 2.01 from harddisk
>As some applications do not run on 2.01 properly, and the < 2.04 KS/WB
>is known to be as stable as a bag of plutonium, I asked the dealer
>about an upgrade to at least 2.04. He said that an update from CBM
>will not be available as far as they know. 

Little he knows. He can get so-called "master-disks" with exactly this
upgrade for old A3000's free from the Braunschweig Service branch.
There may be problems in the moment, as they move to a new building
(a *much* bigger one :-), though.

>Another friend of mine ordered an A3000. The dealer asked CBM Germany, and
>they said, they've got 12 machines still in stock, and confirmed the delivery.

In such cases, they should talk to their "Vertriebsleitung". I'm not in
that department.

>Another known problem are the hotline numbers. One has to dial more than
>twenty times to reach someone. 

We had there two lines busy all day, but still much more people try to
reach C= directly. I always wonder why. When I have problems with my car,
I also don't call the manufacturer, but some service facility. And don't
tell me anything about their competence! Ok, hotline: The Brauschweig
enduser hotline is going to be closed. How this will be solved in future
is yet to be decided by our new management (Helmut Jost leaves, Alwin
Stumpf comes again after 8 years at At***), perhaps someone here in
Frankfurt will have to take over, let's see.

>Q2: Could anybody from CBM anywhere tell CBM germany about these registered
>    user groups?

Sorry, what group(s) do you mean? You see, I'm not involved with this,
perhaps someone other here in Frankfurt knows more.

>Q3: Is Dr. P. Kittel unable to receive private mail? I tried his adress
>    to get answers to these questions, and never got a reply, but the
>    mail didn't bounce, either.

Hmm, until now my old-style bang path address in my .sig always worked.
No, I did never get email from you. Every mail I get, gets answered.
And I get much mail (so don't overuse this, PLEASE!)

-- 
Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel  // E-Mail to \\  Only my personal opinions...
Commodore Frankfurt, Germany  \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
Wer's nicht kann, soll's bleiben klopfen oder Steine lassen!
From: ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: A4000 with 68EC040?
Summary: Manual is correct
Keywords: 68040 68ec040 manual
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:31:09 GMT
Reply-To: ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <C1Gxw1.E07@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung) writes:
>mark@killdeer.Stanford.EDU (Mark Hosang Yim) writes:
>
>>Hi,
>
>>I just bought an A4000.  I was looking through the user's guide and it
>>says.  
>
>>"A4000 models shipped with a 68040-level microprocessor on the
>>processor module may have the 68EC040 variation of the chip. The EC
                   ^^^^^^^^ 
>>chip omits the internal FPU and MMU present on the full 68040.
>>..."
[...]

>>Are all current A4000's EC's or full 68040's?
>>Does anyone know just how different they are? (besides no MMU)
>
>
>Buddy, you got an 040.  If you don't believe me, try removing the heat-sink
>and look at the chip yourself.  So far Commodore (in USA, at least) has
>never sold an ec040 Amiga 4000.  

True so far.

> The manual is wrong.

The manual is not wrong.  Is it so difficult for people to understand that we
write manuals to cover as many *potential* shipping configurations as
possible?  What is it that causes otherwise literate individuals to read the 
words "may have" as "has"?  If you are getting a cut-down processor, I think
you'll be informed of it before you get the machine home and read the owner's 
manual.

Sheesh.

>>mark
>>mark@killdeer.stanford.edu
>
>Yours Sincerely,
>Kelvin
>e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu

-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ross Hippely:                                               Technical Writer
employed by, not speaking for:              Commodore Business Machines Inc.
From: Thomas.Noerregaard@p6.syntax.bbs.bad.se (Thomas Noerregaard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: re: Amiga Guide: where can i get it???
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 15:27:49 +0100
Reply-To: Thomas.Noerregaard@p6.syntax.bbs.bad.se (Thomas Noerregaard)
Distribution: world
Organization: Syntax, Odense, Denmark 
OD-Comment-To: Stefan_Le_Breton

From: Thomas_Noerregaard@p6.Syntax.Bad.se To: Stefan Le Breton

(21-Jan-93  8:34:00) Stefan Le Breton wrote:

 SLB> the number of *.guide documentation grows, but no reader is included
 SLB> with the workbench. Yes, there's i.e. Hyper but it isn't fully 
compatible SLB> or i might buy SAS/C, but I'm not a C-programmer!
 SLB> So: where can i get this reader without buying a bunch of progs i don't
 SLB> need?? (hey Commodore!)

I really don't think you can get it without buying SAS/C. :-(

But There is another one called "ShowHyp V1.2" written by Nick de.Jong and it'
s freeware.

It's a nice utility and IMHO better than the one that comes with the SAS/C 
package.


 /Thomas
 (Thomas_Noerregaard@p6.syntax.bbs.bad.se)

--- April V0.993PBeta+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: shulick@cineret.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick)
Subject: ** MOD Released **
Originator: shulick@cineret
Reply-To: shulick@cineret.ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: Vallen Software
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 03:27:43 GMT


It's on amiga.physik.unizh.ch.  Right now it's in /amiga/new, but later
will be in /amiga/mods/med.  File "Rlight_remix.lha".  A little touching
up of the original, Rainlight.  Which do you like better? :)  Feedback
is welcome.  Enjoy!

-- 
    // Amiga 3000   ___ \ Sam Hulick: shulick@indiana.edu (NeXTmail OK!)
   // 68030 25 MHz /__/\ \  )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
\\// OS 2.04       \__\/ / (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
 \/                     /   )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
From: jperkski@kentcomm.uucp (Jim Perkowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: A1200 Harddisk problems
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 24 Jan 93 14:23:28 EST
Organization: Privately owned and operated UUCP site.

In article <1jsdkkINNege@uwm.edu> karl@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (J Karl Meinhardt) writes:
> I am on my second Maxtor 120Meg disk and am still having difficulity.  The
> disk still doesn't work properly.  I am using WB2.1 HD Toolbox to set drive
> parameters which are read from the drive.  I am leaving the parameters at the
> defaults but, the drive still behaves eratically.  The 1200 does not come with
> software to install the harddisk hence the use of 2.1 HDtools.  I am aware
> of the maxtransfer bug, but changing this value makes no difference.
> Does anyone have any sugestions?
>
> Thanx,
> Karl
>
>

 Try setting MASK to "0xfffe". That worked on my friends A1200 with a Maxtor
A2585. He has been using it for over 2 weeks now and has had no problems at all.
What is you MAXTRANSFER set to? We set his to 0x7fffffff

--
____________________________________
        (Jim Perkowski)
kentcomm!jperkski@legend.akron.oh.us
kentcomm!jperkski@aldhfn.akron.oh.us
From: Bradley_Yen@tvbbs.wimsey.bc.ca (Bradley Yen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga mice?
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:55:52 PST
Organization: Tunnel-Vision BBS!

 -=> Quoting Kburkert@andromeda.rutger to All <=-

 Kb> Path:
 Kb> van-bc!rsoft!agate!stanford.edu!ames!pacbell.com!att-out!rutgers!andro
 Kb> meda.rutgers.edu!kburkert From: kburkert@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Keith
 Kb> Burkert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
 Kb> Subject: Amiga mice?
 Kb> Message-ID: <Jan.18.21.24.09.1993.24094@andromeda.rutgers.edu>
 Kb> Date: 19 Jan 93 02:24:10 GMT
 Kb> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
 Kb> Lines: 14


 Kb> Hi,

 Kb> Is it possible to use an IBM mouse on an Amiga.  My Amiga mouse is
 Kb> dying a slow death and my brother has an IBM mouse.  Is there some type
 Kb> of mouse  driver that I could install?  If using the IBM is impossible
 Kb> then what is the 
 Kb> best Amiga mouse out there?  I definetely do not want another Amiga
 Kb> mouse.   
 Kb> Thanks for all you help in advance.

 Kb> Keith
 Kb> -A man in search of mice

 Kb> "Some people know the price of everything and the value of nothing"

 Kb> kburkert@andromeda.rutgers.edu

I'm using a Mouse Systems serial mouse on my A3000 with a GVP I/O
Extender.  The serial mouse is un-modified and I have to run a patch
to get the Amiga to reconize the mouse on the I/O Extenders serial
port.  It's not the best method of getting the mouse to go because it
requires a serial port (either the built-in Amiga one or one off of a
multi-serial port card [in my case a GVP I/O Extender]), but it
works... I had an extra serial port handy and the serial mouse was
$cheap$.  There's also a small patch program which will take input
from the serial port and interpret them as mouse movements/buttons
pressed.

Other than the above method.  If you have a Logitech Bus Mouse, you
can chop off the connect and hookup a normal Amiga mouse connector,
really simpl - there's an archive floating around with full
instructions. LOGIMOUS.LHA

You can also hack-up a Microsoft serial mouse to use with the Amiga,
it requires some electrical skills and in my opinion not for the
beginner. MSMOUSE.LHA

___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


-- Via DlgQWK v0.65a
From: D.J.Butcher@newcastle.ac.uk (Dave Butcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga mice?
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:06:03 GMT
Distribution: world, public
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.


In article <Jan.18.21.24.09.1993.24094@andromeda.rutgers.edu>, kburkert@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Keith Burkert) writes:
>
>Hi,
>
>	Is it possible to use an IBM mouse on an Amiga.  My Amiga mouse is dying a slow death and my brother has an IBM mouse.  Is there some type of mouse 
>driver that I could install?  If using the IBM is impossible then what is the 
>best Amiga mouse out there?  I definetely do not want another Amiga mouse.     
>Thanks for all you help in advance.
>
>							Keith
>					-A man in search of mice
>
>"Some people know the price of everything and the value of nothing"
>
>kburkert@andromeda.rutgers.edu

Do you mean Commodore mouse?  I've been using a Naksha Amiga mouse for the last
couple of years, its starting to show its age a bit but was brillant, now its
just great.

Dave.
Nb.- Witty Quote goes here.

	D.Butcher@ncl.ac.uk