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From: miklg@acuson.com (Michael Goldman )
Subject: Re: More Earthquakes
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California
Distribution: soc
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:43:28 GMT

jfriedl@TUBBY.MACH.CS.CMU.EDU (Jeffrey Friedl) writes:

>hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:
>|> I have the impression that in earthquakes, but more through
>|> the experience of Hurricane Andrew, that American homes are more
>|> fragile than Japanese ones.  They get totally devastated, while
>|> Japanese homes seem to retain more structure.

>It's probably a combination of many things.  Concerning Andrew, it
>hit strongly inland where such strong winds were not expected.  Homes
>in these areas most likely weren't built as strongly as ones where
>such strong winds might be expected (and therefore were destroyed).

>Similarly, homes in Pittsburgh (where I am at the moment) are not likely
>built to withstand strong earthquakes, as this area doesn't get them.
>Were one to happen, many homes would be destroyed.

	Also, Florida is flat as a pancake, and barely above sea
	level, so hurricane winds are going to proceed without
	interruption, while hills and islands in Japan are likely
	to slow down winds.

	As for earthquake-proofing, I noticed a lot of new homes in
	Japan are built using tile bricks.  In California, wood
	is customary for homes since it can flex with the stress of
	earthquakes.  New homes are not built of brick as they
	are more likely to crack and fall.  Office buildings are
	obviously different, with special construction techniques
	for earthquake-proofing.

	On the subject of construction, I never saw in any house, new
	or old, in Japan, double-glazed windows to keep out the cold.
	Considering how expensive energy is there, this seems crazy.

	- Michael Goldman

-- 
"History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have
exhausted all other alternatives." - Abba Eban
	Disclaimer:  All views are solely my own & not the views of Acuson.
	<sun!sono!miklg>  or  [miklg@acuson.com]
From: rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Is this offensive?
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:46:45 GMT
	<1jlvihINN9t8@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

Believe it or not, I have heard the words "Jap" and "Japs" used
respectfully, as in "It looks like the Japs have another dynamite new
entry in the luxury car field." I think it's all a matter of
perspective and tone. Certainly people will always seek to shorten
names of all kinds, not just nationalities. It is human nature. And
since "Jap" is a contraction for "Japan" or "Japanese," I personally
don't see that there is any stigma in it, except in hangovers from
WWII where songs like "Slap the Jap" played over the radio. It's all
in tone. "Yank" or "Yankee" can be a vile epithet or a friendly,
familiar gesture. Think about it. You can, in a friendly way, call
someone a son of a bitch and get nothing but a grin. But try the same
thing on someone who is hostile to you and you are likely to regret
it. If people are, or are perceived to be, excessively persecuted,
that is another matter. But I don't think the Japanese are, in spite
of the rampant paranoia that you see in Japanese newspapers. And
please, no flames about Japan not being paranoid. I've read articles
in Japanese newspapers that "prove" the state of Missouri is out to
"get" Japan (this was quite a topic of discussion when I was a member
of the Japan-America Society in St. Louis).\

RB

-- 
|"The truth is cruel, but it can be loved, and it makes free those who  |
| have loved it." -- George Santayana  // Opinions expressed here, when |
| clear and persuasive, are my own. --Rob Brueckner (rhb@world.std.com) |
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Re: speaking of Mori Ohgai...
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:38:09 GMT

Mark Crispin <mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM> writes:


>[PS: Yes, I know $@2*30(J is not the right kanji for ``Ohgai'', but JIS only
>     has $@2*(J for O/kamome, not the traditional character.]


The WordTank 7200 gives JIS 322a as the old character, even though the 
actual jis fonts read that as $@2*(J.

Charlie
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From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: More Earthquakes
Date: 24 Jan 1993 00:12:54 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

Here again, Japanese fail to think outside of their own terms.  Since their
country is homogeneous, the US has to be homogeneous, that homes everywhere
in the US must be built the same way.  Dead wrong.  California has the 
strictest enforcement of safety standards anywhere in the world.  That's 
because there are a fair amount of earthquakes here, and earthquake damage
is always exaggerated; precisely, that Easterners or Japanese point fingers
at California and say that it is a dangerous place to live.  On the other
hand, a suspiciously high proportion of people who die from earthquakes
are people from out-of-state, such as they jumped out of windows in panic.
If Japanese homes are safe, they should have lava-proof roofs, Iranian-proof
doors, and cholera-proof cisterns.  On the other hand, Japanese public phones
are the easiest to fool of any in the Western world, namely that you put 
silver tape over the pinhole in the phone card, so their phones are unsafe.
From: tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Tad Perry)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Loong list of Japanese BBSs
Date: 28 Jan 1993 07:17:11 GMT
Organization: unaffiliated
NNTP-Posting-Host: gibdo.engr.washington.edu

In article <RHB.93Jan27105811@world.std.com> rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner) writes:
>Thanks for the list, but is this current? I ask because of all the
>300bps modem speeds listed. The "fast" modems are 1200 and only an
>occasional 2400 or 4800. I would have thought Japan would be current
>with v.32bis technology everywhere.

Guess again. When I told my 1200 bps client in Tokyo two months ago to
get with the times and at least get 2400 bps they asked me what I was
using. When I told them v.32bis (14.4 Kbps) they couldn't believe it.
There is *nowhere* that I know in Japan that can do 14.4 Kbps. There
are a handful of places that can do 9600. And I *stress* handful.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tad Perry      Internet:    tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu
               CompuServe:  70402,3020
               NIFTY-Serve: GBG01266
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: shibuya@bl.cad.slb.com (Hiroto Shibuya)
Subject: Book: Doing Business with Japanese Men - A Women's Handbook
Reply-To: shibuya@bl.cad.slb.com
Organization: Applicon; Billerica, MA (USA)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:58:18 GMT

Found an interesting book.

Doing Business with Japanese Men: A Woman's Handbook
Christalyn Brannen & Tracy Wilen
Stone Bridge Press
ISBN 1-880656-04-3
$9.95

It is practical guide for Western women in dealing with Japanese
business men.  Although many kinds of cultural difference comes into
the scene, it does not spend much of spaces discussing about the
differences, but simply lists dos and don'ts in the situations.
Contents of the book are;

	o Establishing Your Authority
	o When You Are the Senior Executive
	o When You Are Solo
	o When Your Boss Is Japanese
	o The Woman's Advantage
	o What to Wear
	o Socializing There
	o Socializing Here
	o Gift Giving
	o Sticky Rice
	o Woman Talk
	
Every section start with authors' introduction or summary of
a particular situation, issues, followed by "In Their Own Words" -
collection of voices of Western women dealt with Japanese business
men, and concluded with check list of do and don'ts.

Since title page have "Sexual Harassment" printed in Japanese in the
background with some other Japanese writings, I was expecting the book
to be filled with horror stories of Western women harassed by Japanese
business men.  Yes it does contain some of that stories too, but even
in that context, moral judgement and criticism are suppressed.
Instead, general attitude throughout the book is positive, voices of
women to whom doing business with Japanese are major part of their
lives.

Following is one of "voice" from section "The Woman's Advantage" which
I found very interesting.

"I think women, especially American women, excel in negotiations with
the Japanese.  As a rule, we are more patient and accepting of
Japanese business protocol in meetings than our male colleagues.  We
like to spend time discussing the proposal or problem until everyone
understands and agrees.  We tend not to raise our voices or argue, and
therefore can more easily find areas of agreement.  We're viewed as
solution finders, and can break through impasses.  Some of my male
colleagues, on the other hand, jump in with an idea, try to take over
the meeting, and expect immediate cooperation.  They set themselves up
to fail.  The argumentative approach inevitably gets the silent
treatment from the Japanese, damaging the relationship and prolonging
the meetings."
--
					Hiroto Shibuya
			
					Applicon Inc.
					Billerica, MA
					U.S.A.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: HDTV in Japan
From: larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Larry Greenfield)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 15:37:23 PST
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

Thanks for the info, Naru, but remember, the originator of the 
standard used gets royalties from every set sold (much as 
Matsushita/JVC gets royalties from VHS stuffs).  On a side note, 
there is only one US-owned television maker left, Zenith. RCA and GE 
ar owned by Thompson of France, Magnavox, Sylvania, etc are Philips 
of Netherlands, plus of course all the Japanese companies. Ironic as 
it is, Zenith, being the only US-owned TV maker left, is the only one 
that doesn't manufacture any of the sets in the US anymore (Mexico, 
and other places).  Though other companies manufacture a lot 
off-shore, a good portion of the bigger sets are assembled at least 
here in the U.S.
:::::Larry:::::

:::::larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us::::: // :::::Larry Greenfield:::::
::::::::Just your average modeming Classical Violinist:::::::::
:::::::::::Using a 6809-based Tandy Color Computer 3:::::::::::
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese name !!
From: f67709907@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Date: 23 Jan 93 16:32:17 MST
 <1993Jan22.010820.7409@Csli.Stanford.EDU> <C19Fq4.z3@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Nntp-Posting-User: f67709907

I heard from one of my professors here that the "ko" (child) ending
for girls' names became really popular in Japan in the 1920s.
Before then, not many Japanese families gave this type of name to
their children.  I also heard that the more adventurous parents of
today are steering away from it.  Fact or legend?

Any sources on the rise and fall in the popularity of Japanese names?
(After all, "Gertrude" and "Edith" are almost gone here, while "Jennifer"
and "Chelsea" are the latest hot names....)
--
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin     "Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate
f67709907@ccit.arizona.edu      things." -- Dan's advice to Pres. Clinton

   Delightful Things
     A love unknown to others.
     To have solved a riddle.
     A real bargain at a shop.
     A letter from one's sweetheart.
     When something one has ordered turns out well.
	-- from _Inumakura_ (The Dog Pillow)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: Re: honda: america's choice!
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:47:34 GMT

In article <yz#@byu.edu> luke@newt.ee.byu.edu (David Luke) writes:
>Actually, Australian beef seems to be selling very well.  I've never seen
>commercials for "Wyoming beef", but there are "Aussie beef" commercials on
>TV all the time.  It seems as if, even after beef imports are allowed,
>Americans just figure that the Japanese will buy it without any effort on
>the part of the US.

Errr.... beef imports are already allowed, as far as import restrictions go.
They are, however, stacked with additional costs that go to some
beef-breeders organization (Chikusan-Shinkou Jigyoudan?).

-YH
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 11:20:55 MST
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: Miyazawa Comment (was Re: Honda vs Ford (+ Chrysler now))
Distribution: na
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
From: luke@newt.ee.byu.edu (David Luke)

In article <1993Jan27.033802.15031@gibdo.engr.washington.edu> tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Tad Perry) writes:

>Well, I'm really mad at myself now. I had the original quote from a
>Japanese newspaper article. And it most certainly did say these
>things, and it was most certainly clear in meaning. I posted it to
>sci.lang.japan when this was the hot topic of conversation about a
>year ago. (That's why I cross-posted this; in case anyone has it.) If
>anyone does have it, please repost so this b.s. we see above doesn't
>get believed.

>You're right. He didn't use the word "namakemono" he said: "Ji wo yomenai.
>Hatarakanai."

I don't think this is the particular quote you're looking for, but here's
one made about the same time.  This is from about Jan. 1992.  I managed
to cut off the date when I made the copy.

From Kyodo News Service, published in "The North American Post":

Miyazawa Shushou wa mikka no Shuuin Yosan Iinkai de "(Beikokumin ni wa)
hitai ni ase shite hataraku to iu rinrikan ga kakete iru no de wa nai ka
to omotte kita" to hatsugen shita.  Beikokunai de hanpatsu o yobu koto
mo yosou sareru.

Shushou no katsugen wa, (name I can't read -- Mutou Yumif) shi ga
"Beikoku ni wa MANEJIMENTO ga shikkari shite inai kigyou ga aru" nado to,
Shushou no kenkai o tadashita sai, tobidashita.  Shushou wa "Beikoku ni
kakete iru mono, koko ni itatta yuen wa, mono o tsukuru, kachi o umu to
iu kaishaku ga RUUZU ni natta.  Hitai ni ase shite hitotsu no mono o
souzou suru hitai ni ase shite hataraku to iu rinrikan ga kakete iru no
de wa nai ka to omotte kita" to nobeta.

And, a transcription of the same quote from the TV news.  Transcription
courtesy of izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu:

---
Ima America ni kakete orimasu monotte iimasuka, kono jyuu nan nen
kokoni itatta yuen wo mite ikimasuto, mono wo tsukuru to iuka,
kachi wo umu to iukoto ni tsuite no kaishaku ga hijyou ni  ru^su (loose) ni
natta to moushi masuka, souiu hitai ni asewoshite, hitotsu mono wo
souzou shitekutteiu, kinrou no rinri de gozaimasuka, hataraku
rinrikan te iunoga kakete irunjyanaika to iukoto wo
zu^tto omotte mairimashita.  De, ima goshinpai ni natte ratsharu noha
watashi ha masani sonokotoda to omoimasushi, aruimide wagakuni no "baburu" (bub
le)
toiumono nimo souiu youso ga attandato omoimasu.
---

Hope that helps.
-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|  David Luke                      "There's nothing worse than a brilliant     |
|  luke@wombat.ee.byu.edu           image of a fuzzy concept."                 |
|                                                               -- Ansel Adams |
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: kschwarz@netcom.com (Kenneth L. Schwarz)
Subject: Karaoke song "Ii Hi Tabidachi" (romanized)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: World
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 01:01:42 GMT


Ii Hi Tabidachi			by Shinji Tanimura


Yukidoke machikano kitanosorani mukai
sugisarishi hibino yumewo sakebutoki
Kaeranu hitotachi atsuimunewo yogiru
semete kyoukara hitorikiri tabinideru

Aa, nihonno dokokani
watashiwo matteru hitogairu
Iihi tabidachi yuuyakewosagashini
hahanosenakadekiita utawo michizureni

Misakino hazureni shounenha sakanatsuri
aoisusukino komichiwo kaerunoka
Watashiha kyoukara omoidewotsukurutame
sunani karekide kakutsumori "sayonara" to

Aa, nihonno dokokani
watashiwo matteru hitogairu
Iihi tabidachi hitsujigumowosagashini
Chichiga oshietekureta utawo michitsureni

Aa, nihonno dokokani
watashiwo matteru hitogairu
Iihi tabidachi shiawasewosagashini
kodomonokoroni utta utawo michizureni
From: yoshida@tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Yoshida)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Japan Language School Guide - New Book
Date: 26 Jan 93 08:20:19 GMT
Organization: Computer Center, Tokyo Institute of Polytechnics, Japan


JAPAN LANGUAGE SCHOOL GUIDE - NEW BOOK

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From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Speaking of Y. MIshima
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:10:08 GMT
Organization: Masters student, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Mr. Morton,


Let it be remembered that it was you who proclaimed the beginning
threats as deporting me. Coming to CMU and shuting me up and all that
bullshit. I told you exclusively that if you came to CMU to harm me "I
will send you back to Ohio in a bodybag"! This remains true and in
effect. You have said many horrible and disgusting things about my dead
mother who committed suicide. I have it all on hardcopy. None, I repeat
none of those things hurted me but instead put me in a position to
defend my honor. After you "killed" me the first time, You still had the
balls to write dirty little nasty shit to me and about me knowing that I
could not contact you and that you could shut off my expression. This is
very evil! And, you are an evil man! I've tried to apologized and I've
tried to leave you, Mark Crispin and Mr. Lambert the hell alone but you
kept it up until I had to respond. Now, That I have said something(which
by the way is not racist and very compassionate)(because I am hoping
that you would pick immortal salvation and heaven)that made you cry like
a child. I'am sorry for this. I thought that you were more of a
man.(whatever this means)! I don't know your "idea" about what kind of
people
the Japanese are,(and, you showed  me a very MacArthurist attitude which
is very highly offensive to me) but I am different! You better respect
me more that Nippon and America!(which are land)I am a humanbeing and so
are you. If you want to play rough then come on with it! Telling, me I
should follow my mother's example and take my own life. You only say
this and that other bullshit because you sit behind a computer. If you
were here and I had my paint and brushes, I would paint a yellow strip
right up the crack of your ass. Now, as I told you before sir, DON"T
FUCK WITH ME! 

Now, I hope that you and I, can get along by not getting along. I can
live my life just fine without communicated your existance.(Damn, these
NEXT computers are nice. Is this a Japanese brand?) Well, to show that I
am human and not racist, I would like to do two things. (1) Forget all
the negative transmission and conversions between you and I; and; (2),
Invinte You and your family to my home for a stay and dinner. And, as an
added bonus,(my Japanese-ness), I promise not to swear and/or make
reference to color or race whether in general or otherwise unless I am
provoked and extraordinarily-overly insulted.

I hope that you will forgive me if I caused you any embarassment and I
say this from my heart. 
Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:14360 sci.econ:9890 soc.culture.usa:10167
From: miklg@acuson.com (Michael Goldman )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,sci.econ,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Lawyers: US vs. Rest of World (Myth broken)
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:10:22 GMT
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California


	One of the supposed reasons for the US's supposed decline is
	that the US has many more lawyers than eg, Japan.  The
	implication is that Americans are too busy suing each other to
	get any useful work done.  A recent study by two law
	professors, Ray August at Washington State Univ., and Toshika
	Kitawaki of Nihon University in Tokyo disproves this.

	Their study indicates that the US is 34th in lawyers per
	capita, less than West Germany, Austria, Italy, and most of
	Latin America.  The problem in counting arises from defining who
	is a lawyer.  In the US, most people who finish law school pass
	a bar exam in some state and practice law.  In Japan, 60,000
	people a year finish law school, but fewer than 500 pass a test
	to get a license.  The rest do not drive cabs, they go to work
	for some company or govt bureaucracy where they write
	contracts, negotiate deals, etc., just as they would in the
	US.  The only thing they can't do is go into court and argue a
	case.  Something similar happens in other countries.

	One reason Japan has fewer trial lawyers, is that they have a
	very well-defined set of rules as to how much a particular
	injury or misdeed can be decided for, so most people go to
	arbitration, since going to court would be more expensive, and
	would still be decided on the basis of these rules.

	- Michael (myth-breaker) Goldman

-- 
"History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have
exhausted all other alternatives." - Abba Eban
	Disclaimer:  All views are solely my own & not the views of Acuson.
	<sun!sono!miklg>  or  [miklg@acuson.com]
From: BFLV@MUSICT.MCGILL.CA (BFLV)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Looking for a Japanese word processor !!
Date: 22 Jan 93 01:45:08 GMT
Organization: McGill University

Could anyone out there tell me the ftp addresses from which I can
get a Japanese word processor for MS-DOS or Windows?

ThanX!
M.Y.