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From: dfrey@opusc.csd.scarolina.edu (David Frey)
Subject: Re: Crayon stain on upholstery
Reply-To: dfrey@bigbird.csd.scarolina.edu
Organization: Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:58:13 GMT

In <1992Aug11.201545.2492@progress.com> matth@progress.COM (Matthew J. Harper) writes:


>king@hsi.com (Marty King) writes:

>>Does anyone have any suggestions on how to remove a stain caused by a
>>melted crayon from cloth car upholstery?

>>- Marty
>>-- 

>  I know how to get it out of carpeting and table cloth's, so you might want
>to try this.  Note also that I;m not making this up.  It's most of the misc
>_Home_Maker_How_to_ books.  I just happen to remember this one.

>  1) Pick out as much of the crayon as you can.

>  2) Use an iron and a piece of wax paper to get out the rest.
>     Lay the wax-paper over the stain and iron it on a LOW LOW setting.
>     All you want to do is re-melt the crayon.  It'll stick to the wax
>     paper and you just lift it off while it's still hot.


>  Other than this you might wander into a bookstore and look for books in the
>aforementioned section.

>-Matth

Use a paper grocery bag in place of the wax paper. It will do a much better
job. I have removed a LOT of crayons from beige upholstery this way.

David

>          Matthew J. Harper ! Progress Software Corp. ! {disclaimer.i}         
>   God created heaven and earth to grow barley and hops. Now he homebrews !-)  
>   

>  

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From: jca@bliss.fibercom.com (Chris "Cheesester" Akers)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Ford vs Chevy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:13:06 GMT
Organization: FiberCom, Inc., Roanoke, Virginia

In article <1992Aug19.123913.7732@ultb.isc.rit.edu> deb5584@ultb.rit.edu () writes:
>If anyone knows of any articles on a 5.0 Stang vs a IROC Camaro could
>you send me some E-Mail.  I want to compaire the performance of both
>cars.  Also I want to compaire the Mustang to the 305 and 350 IROC.
>
>                                                Thanks,
>                                                Doug
  Not too sure about articles, but I know from experience that my '92 Z28
5.7 (stock) puts an average of ~7 car lengths on the stock Mustangs I have
raced.  There are plenty of Mustangs around here that are quicker, but they
are Nitrous-ized, supercharged, gutted, etc.  A 305 Z28 with the G92 option
and 5 speed would probably whip up on a Mustang as well, although I haven't
seen any with this combination.  In the past, (80's) the Camaros were 
typically slower than the Mustangs...  that's why it's sooooo much fun
beating them now!  :-)   They are both perfect examples of a dying breed-
the great American Muscle Car.  Either car can be easily and cheaply 
modified to outperform cars costing 10 times as much.  (I know several
people who drive their Mustangs to work every day and turn 12's on the 
weekend- for under $15,000 total cost!)  Mustangs ride a little softer,
and don't handle quite as well as the Z's...  and both are prone to develop
squeaks and rattles, but that is totally proportional to how hard they
are driven (and the conditions of roads in the area!)  To be totally
honest, I don't see a better value.  And oh, don't believe too much what
you read in magazines about any car.  My Z turns 13.9s and gets 33 mpg on
the highway.  Straight from the factory for $18K.  (And yes, I do have
every option possible- while keeping Air Conditioning ;-) [only you Z nuts
know what that means!]  Forget Ford vs Chevy, how about normally-aspirated-
V8-real-wheel-drive-'merican-econo-performance vs THE WORLD.  :-)
Chris.


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From: valhert@mist.CS.ORST.EDU (valhert)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Auto mailing lists
Date: 18 Aug 92 04:14:47 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.

If you have any additions that you know of, then please send it
to me.  Thank you. 


Name: Audi
Contact: quattro-request@aries.east.sun.com

Name: Autocross/Solo
Contact: autox-request@hoosier.utah.edu

Name: BMW
Contact: bmw-request@cabot.balltown.cma.com

Name: British Cars
Contact: british-cars-request@hoosier.utah.edu

Name: Camaro/Firebird (GM F-body)
Contact: f-body-request@boogie.EBay.Sun.COM

Name: Corvettes
   there are two lists; the first is more of a competition oriented
   list, and the second is more general in nature (or so i am told)

   Competition:
          Contact: vettes-request@cimage.com
   General:
          Contact: vettes-request@compaq.com

Name: Datsun/Fairlady Roadsters
Contact: datsun-roadsters-request@hoosier.utah.edu

Name: Eclipse/Talon/Laser
Contact: todd@ivucsb.sba.ca.us

Name: Electric Vehicles
Contact: info-ev-request@ymir.claremont.edu

Name: Exotic-Cars
Contact: exotic-cars-request@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov

Name: Italian Cars
Contact: italian-cars-request@cabot.balltown.cma.com

Name: Hondas
Contact: info-honda-request@cs.ucla.edu

Name: Hot rods
Contact: hotrod-request@dixie.com

Name: Land Rovers
Contact: land-rover-owner-request@stratus.com

Name: Lotus
Contact: lotus-request@esprit.cts.com

Name: Mazdas
Contact: mazda-list-request@ms.uky.edu

     Subclass: Miata
     Contact: miata-request@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu

     Subclass: RX-7
     Contact: jjn@cblpf.att.com

Name: Merkurs
Contact: merkurlist@pcad.UUCP

Name: Mopar
Contact: mopar@casbah.acns.nwu.edu     
         mostly high performance Chrysler, Dodge, Plymouth products

Name: MR2
Contact: mr2-interest-request@validgh.com

Mustangs
   There are two lists, the first is for Mustangs through 1973,
   the second for Mustangs from 1980 on.  nobody cares about
   the Mustang II, so don't ask.

   Subclass: classic
        Contact: classic-mustang-request@hpfctjc.fc.hp.com
   Subclass: modern
	Contact: mustangs-request@cup.hp.com

Name: Offroad/4X4
Contact: uunet!ginosko!wizvax!spg

Name: Porsches
Contact: porschephiles-request@karazm.math.uh.edu

Name: Rally
Contact: rally-request@stratus.com)

Name: Saabs
Contact: SAAB.novellpm@sjfsmtp.novell.com)

Name: Saturn
Contact: saturn-request@oar.net)

Name: School (high performance driving schools)
Contact: school-request@cabot.balltown.cma.com)

Name: Sentra SE-R, G20, N2000
Contact: se-r-request@pencom.com)

Name: Supras
Contact: supras-request@vicor.com)

Name: Volvos
Contact: volvo-net-request@me.rochester.edu)

Name: VWs
Contact: info-vw-request@ames.arc.nasa.gov

Name: Wheel-to-Wheel Racing
Contact: wheeltowheel-request@abingdon.sun.com

Name: Z-Cars (Nissan/Datsun)
Contact: z-car-request@dixie.com
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X-Nickname: <<APOCALYPSE>>, Lord of Destruction
Organization: Penn State Star Trek club
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:26:05 EDT
From: Matthew E. Bernold <MEB117@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Owner's manual needed.

I recently purchased a 1982 Olds Delta 88 Royale Brougham, and it didn't have
an owner's manual.  I was wondering if anyone out there has such a manual
they don't need anymore.  I tried getting one from a local dealer, and they
said it would be "difficult" which usually translates into "expensive" :-)

Any help would be appreciated.

       Matthew E. Bernold             MEB117@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
         <<APOCALYPSE>>                  meb@haydn.psu.edu
From: rfrost@degas.jrc.flinders.edu.au (Richard Frost)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: MAZDA 12A TURBO CALL 4 HELP
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:49:37 GMT
Organization: CSIRO/Flinders Joint Research Centre in Information Technology


I'm posting this message on behalf of my friend Craig who does not have
Internet access.  Go ahead Craig ...

I have just bought a MAZDA ROTARY 12A TURBO engine that was imported from
Japan.  This engine originally came in the TURBO COSMO & TURBO RX-7 Series 3.
It came complete with all sensors, auto. trans., air flow metering
box and most importantly BOTH the E.F.I. and emissions- control box.

The E.F.I. box is an analog type made by Nippon Denso and works IN
CONJUNCTION with a Mitsubishi Electric digital emmission-control computer.

The emmission-control computer is used to prevent knock under certain
conditions, this prevents anyone from just removing all emmission control
devices, but presents me with a problem of how do I wire them both up and
then check that they are both working correctly.  Also is it possible to
remove any of these emission control devices on the engine?

Other than the above information, I haven't been able to get any details
on this engine.

                If someone has any info.on these cars and/or
                electronic boxes could they please email Richard below.

                                MANY MANY THANKS IN ADVANCE.
                                                                                
        Craig



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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu (mark r rauschkolb)
Subject: Address for Manufacturer of McGuard Lug Locks?
Reply-To: mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:02:25 GMT

Thanks for All of the ideas about removing Locking Lug Nuts with a broken Key.

There is little space around the nuts, and the top is flush with the rim, so that 
rules out any of the welding / grip the outside solutions.

I want to try contacting the manufacturer, but unfortunately, nobody around here
carries this brand.  Can anybody give me an address to write to, to see if I can get
another key? 
(they probably will say that they can't give it to me ... but it's worth a try.)

If this doesn't work, I'll try the socket in the sqiggle.

(if that doesn't work, maybe I'll just sell the car :) 

Thanks again
Mark
mrr1@isis.msstate.edu


Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: ejhupper@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Eric Huppertz)
Subject: Re: floormats & where to get them without paying needless markup
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:21:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Illinois State University

Hello,

I recently bought an '89 Dodge Daytona, which is in near perfect condition
except the floormats could be replaced.  I called the local Dodge dealer
who wants to charge RETAIL for these items...! The feeling I got when he
told me the price was comparable to the feeling you might get if you went
around throwing money directly into wastebaskets.

So I thought I would ask my net.friends: Is there a catalog or some other
place where I can get the floormats, where I don't have to pay 60% extra
for the dealer to make a phone call?

Thanks in advance for your help,

-Eric


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From: james@koko.csustan.edu (Jonas Grumpy)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: <None>
Date: 18 Aug 92 04:54:18 GMT
Organization: CSU Stanislaus

In article <1992Aug17.174325.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> sbirdam@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
>IMHO I believe that the GTHO XY Falcon is the hottest.
>Similar looking to the standard XY, which in its own right is a
>muscley looking car, the GT is just a bit more brutish.
>Not a sleek car at all, these Australian falcons just ooze muscle.
>A pity this is only on looks alone, because the XY GT's have the go
>to match the looks. But thats not the point right.
>LONG LIVE THE PHASE THREE !!!!!!!
>
>AMB.
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------


KNIGHT RIDER!!!!!!!  Holy Cow dude you just reminded me of that mad max
movie. MAX DON'T GO!!!!  
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From: shaig@Think.COM (Shai Guday)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Bumper Paint?
Date: 21 Aug 1992 21:28:17 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: merlin.think.com

Does anyone know what type of paint is recommended to hide scuff
marks on the plastic end of a bumper?  The plastic itself is yellow
and that color is showing through some of the depper scuffs instead
of the covering black matte.


	Shai
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: eoates@us.oracle.com
Subject: Re: $758 for an oil change?
Organization: Oracle Corporation, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 01:02:15 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <kelley.714109402@cwis>, kelley@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sean Kelley) writes:
> meiboy@tsoft.sf-bay.org (MeiBoy of UCU) writes:
> 
>>Usually when I take my car to the Ford dealer every 7500 miles for
>>sheduled maintenance, it costs about $170 and it includes
>>oil change, checking the hoses, battery, etc., lubing the chassis,
>>and rotating the tires.  
>>But today, I took my car in for the 30,000 mile sheduled maintenance
>>service and the  guy told me it will cost $758.  And this is not
>>for fixing anything.
>>Can anybody tell me what they do at 30,000 mi. that they don't
>>do at other mileages on Ford cars?
>>Has any other Ford owners experienced the same thing at their
>>30,000 mile maintenance
> 
> WHAT THE HELL....170 DOLLARS FOR MAINTANCE...!!!!!!.....
> 
> lets see...oil change 20 bucks at jiffy lube...or the whole deal for 60
> bucks or so...maybe, now, when you take it in, do the do tune up
> also..like change the plugs and suck...if so, if its a FI car..a tune
> may cost 100 dollars at the most....but 758...now that sounds like a
> rip...do you have a written list of what that included?...new
> injectors...a new engine?...what...750...now what could that include...
> a tune up...150...so that leaves 500...now, new
> injectors....200...maybe..that leaves 300...50 bucks to wash the
> car??...and that leaves 250 for a tip for the mechanic!?...I hope you
> had this done as an esitimat first and not just done with out being
> called...i would really like to know what all they did...
> .

You guys should get Ferari's: $2000 every 15K miles for the tuneup...

To find out what the $758 covers, look in your owners manual and it is listed
in the maintenance section.

Ed Oates (my opinions, not Oracle's)
From: jitloke@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Jit-Loke Lim)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Saturn featured on cover of this weeks BUSINESS WEEK
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:49:20 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <1992Aug13.163651.2395@crc.ricoh.com> chilton@crc.ricoh.com (Jeff Chilton) writes:
>   In fact, it wouldn't be too surprising if after some time, other GM
>   models began to be rebadged to fly the Saturn flag.  GM has a good

That would be an extremely poor decision. All indications are that Saturn today
is being very well received by the public for various factors - quality,
service, price, etc. GM has finally figured out what a large number of the
public wants in a car - BASIC TRANSPORTATION. We all dream about F40s and 
Diablos, many of us dream about Vettes and 300ZXTTs. The few fortunate ones
among us actually get to own a dream car. Most of us NEED basic transportation.
It would sure be fun to blast down the twisties pegging the revometer and
rowing thru the gears but most times it's sitting in heavy traffic, hoping
the car doesn't stall or overheat. There is a large demand for basic, reliable
transportation - new college grads, people without CEO budgets, people unsure
about the economy - you name it. And Saturn meets those needs wonderfully,
a quality product coupled with excellent service. Saturn should expand its
line with more diverse products but NOT merely rebadge other GM products. As an
extreme example, a Saturn Corvette would be the wrong line-up. Personally, I
don't think GM would be so damned stupid to do that. GM has a wonderful thing
going in Saturn. My suggestion - don't change anything. Simply introduce
more SATURN-philosophy vehicles into the line-up. Please, GM, please don't 
simply rebadge other cars as Saturns. 


Jit
From: smith@ctron.com (Larry Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Electric Cars
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:48:22 GMT
Reply-To: smith@ctron.com
Organization: Cabletron Systems, Inc.

In article <l8g5i5INN3t0@male.EBay.Sun.COM>, jimj@cleanplate.EBay.Sun.COM (James D. Jones) writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.134411.12158@wybbs.mi.org> sleepy@wybbs.UUCP (Mike Faber) writes:

>>If we turned our agricultural success into alcohol
>>and burned it instead of gasoline and coal , we'd produce a whole lot of CO2,

>Still the question of CO2 in the atmosphere and the greenhouse effect --

Just a minute here, folks.  Point of chemistry.  If you are burning alcohol
you are putting CO2 in the air, but if the alcohol you are burning is made
from grain or other recent biomass then that CO2 came out of the air in the
first place.  Net CO2 injection: NIL.  Solar power to crops takes it out,
the alcohol engine returns it, QED.

In fact, if the grain-to-alcohol conversion is not 100% efficient with respect
to carbon, this is actually a net carbon SINK, removing more CO2 than it
replaces.

>There's always electric with fuel cells -- convert hydrocarbons to energy
>with _no_ harmful emissions, not even CO2. I saw a wire story last week

I don't know what weird kind of chemical reaction you are thinking of, but
any real world fuel cell that runs on hydrocarbon fuel WILL produce CO2.  The
models used on the Space Shuttle produce only water, but they run on hydrogen,
NOT hydrocarbons.  It's a different reaction, and it DOES make CO2.

>I guess I like electric cars because, in a way, they're the ultimate
>flexible-fuel vehicles.  Yeah, they run on electricity, but they doesn't
>care how that electricity is made, or where.  

I'd like electric cars, too, if they weren't so good at masking the real
problems of air pollution that entire legislatures will mandate their
production in a coal-fired energy economy and think they're solving something.

Larry Smith (smith@ctron.com) No, I don't speak for Cabletron.
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report on the inmates there.  Never seen a body of men with tongues more handy,
or information more uncertain.  If one of those men had been present when the
Deity was on the point of saying "Let there be light" we never would've had it.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: enigma@halcyon.com (Matt Luders)
Subject: Re: Paint Experts: does good paint easily chip?
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 21:47:57 GMT

On a semi-related topic, does anyone have experience with Mazda paint?
The black paint on my 1988 RX-7 has shown itself to be *extremely*
fragile.  Almost anything can damage it: bird droppings, sap, etc.
You've got to clean these things off *fast* otherwise the paint will be
marred.  I suspect this is partly due to the fact that the color is
black.  My theory is that whatever compounds are used to supply the
black pigment are unusually soft (carbon, maybe?).  Anyway, does anyone
else have similar experience with Mazda paint?  Thanks.

Matt
From: wiryaman@riscee.pko.dec.com (Santa Wiryaman)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Stealth? NOT!
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:16:25 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Maynard MA

In article <1992Aug13.233607.16906@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> ac579@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (G.C.J. Timm) writes:
>
>Pardon me Doug, 
>But according to the Car Rags, black cars DO have smaller
>radar signatures.  Radar is very similar to light, you just
>can't see it.;->
>

So it is smaller, or let it be invisible by the radar.  What makes you think
you will not be pulled over when the police's radar read other cars near you.
Police radars gives the speed, but doesn't point which car has that speed.

>
>Jeff
>Who loves stealth hardware.


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From: chen@cage.cs.unc.edu (Super Dave)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Tires for my Integra
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:08:42 GMT


I'd just like to thank all the people who replied to my posting several
days ago.  In case you're curious, I bought some Yokohama A509's.  They're
great dry, decent wet, and fairly inexpensive.

dave chen

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From: mcr@cactus.org (Mike)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
Subject: REPOST:  Saturn VS Skylark
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:41:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: cactus.1992Aug20.204148.4666
Distribution: usa
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx


This is a repost because I recieved no EMAIL on this topic.  Please
EMAIL rather than post to rec.autos.*, please!!!  (OK, I received one or
two replies from folks who were kind enough to honor my request for
email -- thanks!)

I will be buying a new car soon (in cash no less) and am considering
finally going to a domestic.  Saturn's are one of my choices, but I
must admit I like the way the Buicks look and might check into the
Skylark to compare and contrast.  Did anyone already compare the 
Skylark with a comparable Saturn?  The Saturn seems to require alot
of warranty checks and I hate dealers.  How many warranty checks are there
at minimum warranty (one year I assume or 12K miles?) and how much
does each one typically cost?  Does the Skylark have the same type number
of checks for it's warrany?  Being a Gm car and all  (yes, I realize
it's not a Saturn   8-)  ).  Any info appreciated.  Will Saturn let you
do some warranty work yourself like changing the oil and just bringing
in the receipts for proof?  This can save money.  What are some bad points
to the Skylark that are missing from the Saturn and vice versa.  Thanks again.

Please (can't say it too much) email me at: mcr@cactus.org



Mike