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From: tlp@panix.com (Tracy Pendergast)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: BBS for VMS ?
Keywords: vms vax bbs
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:08:09 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC


 I'm curious as to whether and what BBS system
 might run on VMS... any hints, tales, war stories
 or just basic info is much appreciated!

 Thanks, --tl
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Problem with spawn from batch in 5.4-x
Date: 9 Oct 1992 16:07:01 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Oct9.150323.1396@decuac.dec.com>, murphy@burfle.dco.dec.com (Rick Murphy) writes:
>
>A guess:
>You've done a SET PROCESS/NORESOURCE_WAIT somewhere. Don't do that, otherwise
>SPAWN will likely fail.

'Fraid not.  Under VMS v5.4-2:

$	set proc/priv=(noall,tmpm)
$	set proc/noresource
$	spawn show time
%DCL-S-SPAWNED, process CARL_2 spawned
%DCL-S-ATTACHED, terminal now attached to process CARL_2
   9-OCT-1992 08:04:19
%DCL-S-RETURNED, control returned to process BATCH_595
$	set proc/priv=all
$	set proc/noresource
$	spawn show time
%DCL-S-SPAWNED, process CARL_2 spawned
%DCL-S-ATTACHED, terminal now attached to process CARL_2
   9-OCT-1992 08:04:20
%DCL-S-RETURNED, control returned to process BATCH_595
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: acm@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Logging in to someone elses account without using their password.
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:52:28 GMT
Organization: Northern Arizona University


   In response to an earlier posting where someone asked how with privs that
a system manager could login to another users account without supplying or 
changing the user's password.
   I have just written a utility that I've named GLOGIN that allows someone
with both SYSPRV and CMKRNL to login to someone elses account without fiddling
around with their password.
   GLOGIN requires either the PY/TW or the FTA psuedo terminal driver.  FTA
comes with VMS 5.4 and above.  PY/TW came with DECWindows or VWS.  PY/TW is
also public domain and the sources are available from several VMS fileservers
or with CMU-TEK tcp/ip.  If both drivers are available the utility will use
the FTA driver.
   This utility does more than just poke ones UIC and USERNAME.  When using 
GLOGIN to get into another account you inherit the target userid's interactive
environment.  Rights-identifiers, symbols and logical names declared in the
login.com and privs and quotas for the target user.  This allows very accurate
testing/debugging on behalf of a particular user.
   The program is written in VAX MACRO.  To use it just assemble and link it.
Then define a foreign symbol to run the executable.  It takes one parameter,
the userid of the target user.

Tony McCracken


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From: dfilip@colorne.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Accessing Infoserver through DECnet/Tcpip routers
Keywords: infoserver last 
Date: 10 Oct 92 02:28:01 GMT
Distribution: world
Summary: INnfsoserver uses LAST protocol directly
Organization: ColorNet Information Systems

Yehavi Bourvine writes :

>   We are going to enter soon the CSLG program of DEC. In order to distribute
>the software and reading the on-line documnetation DEC suggests their
>Infoserver. As far as I know the infoserver uses some low-level protocols
>to access its disk (LAST?). Our university is divided into a few campuses
>which are connected with routers that pass only DECnet and TcpIp. Any idea
>how to access the Inforserver in this case from remote nodes? Will it support
>DECnet access?

Yes, the Infoserver does offer access to CD's as container files via the LAST
protocol. Although I don't believe there is any way to access the Infoserver
directly via DECnet, once you BIND it (via ESS$LADCP) and MOUNT it on a 
local VAX, it appears as a Files-11 disk. For software distribution over
our WAN (which is mostly DECnet routers) we DECnet copy (actually FTSV, which
is a spooled DECnet copy) the product savesets from the directories on the CD
to other VAXen.

Regarding documentation, DECW$BOOKREADER will not be able to access the
documentation directly since it requires access to the bookreader files
in a directory pointed to by the logical DEC$BOOKREADER (did I get the
spelling correct), however again you could probably copy these to other
VAXen if you had the disk space.

What about getting DFS (Distributed File System) to serve your CD's to
other VAXen ? (DFS is similiar to NFS, only for VAXen needing
to share disks via DECnet). Have never tried it, however since the CD
is mounted like a local disk, DFS should be able to serve it via DECnet
to other nodes. Perhaps you could ask DEC if this is supported ???

Regards,

Dave.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: edbis@solomon.technet.sg (Koh Eng San)
Subject: Xmodem
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 10:28:47 GMT

I am looking for XMODEM/CRC executables and sources. Anyone can tell me when I
can ftp it?

Thanks.

Xref: sparky comp.os.vms:16601 comp.unix.ultrix:7649
From: mvbr@se.alcbel.be (Marc Verbruggen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: dxdiff for vms
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:21:20 GMT
Reply-To: mvbr@se.alcbel.be
Followup-To: comp.os.vms
Organization: Alcatel Bell Telephone


--
Ultrix has a beautiful tool dxdiff to compare the contents of two files.
I am urgently in search for THE SAME utility under VMS.
Let me also add this : there exists a utility xdiff, that probably runs on Unix
and VMS, but my manager prefers the dxdiff interface.
If someone from DEC reads this : come on, as an open company this must exist !!
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: senn@maya.com (Jeff Senn)
Subject: Debug Symbol table in EXE file
Organization: MAYA Design Group
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:11:40 GMT

Does anyone have a bit of code that extracts DST (debug symbol table)
from the end of a VMS exe file?  More specifically I want to find out what
entry point symbol is closest to a particular address for a heap diagnostic
thing I'm writing.

I don't care what language (although preferably not BLISS :-( ).

-Jas
                   ___________________________________________________________
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From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Dynamic??? Sysgen Parameters
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:21:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: gap.1bmq6hINNavn
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Distribution: world
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <009622CC.5A79C180@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU>, mchenry@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU (MCHENRY@BAE.NCSU.EDU) writes:
>We have a curious situation where when we make changes with supposedly
>dynamic sysgen parameters, the actual change dosen't take place until
>a reboot has occured. We discoverd this by accident when someone had
>been increasing the parameter DESMBXBUFQUO , a dymamic parameter,
>in an attempt to improve DECwindows performance.When he saw no
>effect he continued to increase it until he had put it at a level
>where it was going to cause a problem. It did cause problems after
>a reboot and we could not undo the damage until we rebooted again.
>
>Aren't changes in dynamic parameters supposed to have an immediate
>effect? What would cause the change not to go into effect until
>after the reboot. 

If you want the change to take effect immediately, change the ACTIVE
parameters, not the CURRENT parameters.  If you want the change to stay around
after the next reboot, change the CURRENT parameters, too.
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: mike@jammin.nosc.mil (mike pawka)
Subject: Re: Phone number for TGV inc.
Organization: NRaD
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 16:53:55 GMT

	408-427-4366

						Mike
From: bruce@ais.com (Bruce C. Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: DCL CONVERT cannot reduce file size
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:07:18 GMT
Organization: Applied Information Systems, Chapel Hill, NC

In article <E25D3328357FA06DE6@CPHKVX.BITNET>, 88175839@CPHKVX.CPHK.HK writes:
> I recently discovered that after we deleted pages from the VTX
> infobase with VTX workbench function, the VTX infobase files
> did not become smaller.
> 
> Thus I tried DCL CONVERT (with many different combinations of qualifiers);
> however, out of my expectation, only the actual size of the file became
> smaller but not the allocated size.
> 
> Can someone help me to reclaim those unused disk blocks ?

What you need to do is to create an FDL (=File Description Language)
file that describes your file's logical structure.  You can do this with
the ANALYZE/FDL command.  Then you edit the .FDL file to change the
allocation (NOTE: there may be more than one allocation clause, depending
on the exact structure of the file;  you may need to change more than one
of them).  Finally, you do a CONVERT/FDL to compress the file.

IMHO this is one of the things that wasn't done too well with CONVERT -
it's not immediately obvious how to reclaim space in an indexed file
to make it smaller.  Seems like there could have been some `shortcut'
mechanisms added that might not have the full flexibility of using the
FDL file but which could be done more obviously.

Bruce C. Wright
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: billb@crpmks.uucp (Bill Bochnik (Info Systems))
Subject: Re: Remote Printing
Reply-To: billb@crpmks.UUCP (Bill Bochnik (Info Systems))
Organization: Ciba-Geigy Corporation
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:38:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.124011.24389@nuscc.nus.sg> edbis@solomon.technet.sg (Koh Eng San) writes:
>I am using a PC Comm software to dialup to my VAX to run a Cobol application.
>I have a local printer attached to my PC and I would like to know how I could
>print a report from the VAX to my local printer. Can a queue be configured to
>route a printjob to a remote printer that is not connected to the network?
>
>PS - pls don't recommend the use of upload/download software such as Kermit or
>Xmodem. The remote printing facility should be as transparent as possible.
>
>Have a GREAT Day!
>

What about sending the escape codes that tell your terminal emulator to turn 
on local capture of data to printer before "typing" it to the screen, and then 
sending the escape code to turn it off again?


-- 
Bill Bochnik			| It's hard to be a James Bond in an Abbott
Systems Analyst 		|	and Costello world.
Ciba-Geigy Corporation		| Signed and sealed, they deliver oblivion.
philabs!crpmks!billb		| It's worse than that, he's dead Jim.
Xref: sparky comp.os.vms:16190 vmsnet.internals:1410
From: jmeinke@dcs.simpact.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,vmsnet.internals
Subject: Re: Bug in LIB$FIND_IMAGE_SYMBOL ?
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:32:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: dcs.1992Oct7.093229.19
Organization: Simpact Associates, San Diego CA

In article <1992Oct5.125242.1@idiws1.idi.battelle.org>, 
system@idiws1.idi.battelle.org writes:
> Hi All,
> 
> I recently had a problem with a program using the LIB$FIND_IMAGE_SYMBOL
> RTL routine.  The parameters are: (filename, symbol, value, image) where
> ...
 
I followed this short thread, and another related one: "VMS
shareable images, what's wrong with them?".  Could someone
please fill me in on what LIB$FIND_IMAGE_SYMBOL is useful for?
I read the manual; it didn't click. 

If you would rather email me, I'll summarize.  Thanks.
-- 
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9210 Sky Park Court                   jmeinke@dcs.simpact.com 
San Diego, CA  92123  

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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: sday@fornax.unm.edu (Stephen F. Day   UNM CIRT)
Subject: Re: post office protocole on vax?
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 22:57:19 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque NM
Reply-To: sday@ariel.unm.edu

In article <00961bac.d229f8c5.2079@smup7.itodys.jussieu.fr>, su@SMUP7.ITODYS.JUSSIEU.FR writes:
> 
>  A mail server is running at our university on VAX/VMS. It provides
> BITNET, INTERNET and DECnet mailing facilities. Some users would like
> to be warned of the arrival of messages in their mailboxes while working
> on a Mac or PC, without having a permanent telnet connection to the
> mail server. They use on the mac a program called Eudora, which is known
> to work in cooperation with another program called popper running on a
> Unix mail server. Is there a program similar to popper and running under
> VMS?

Some of our Eudora users are using the POP3 server that came with TGV's
Multinet.

In my *old* files, I found:

*****************************************************************************
In article <1991Jun12.122523.1@matai.vuw.ac.nz>, andrew@matai.vuw.ac.nz (Andrew Greer) writes:
>
>   Greetings,
>         I was wondering if anyone had a POP mail server for VMS 5.3 or 5.4 that
> ran under CMU-Tek TCP/IP v6.5/6.6 or UCX 1.3a. Thanks.

You are in luck!  About three weeks ago Indiana University released IUPOP3
v1.6 which supports WIN/TCP, TGV's Multinet and UCX 1.3a.

It is available from mythos.ucs.indiana.edu by anon ftp in /pub/iupop3/v1.6

I have been using it to provide a POP3 server to Eudora running on some
Macs.  We use UCX at the VAX end with Matt Madison's excellent MX SMTP
software.  The software is reasonable stable - sorry Larry but I think
I've found another problem.  This I am documenting to send to the authors
but since it only occurs after 4-5 days of running I have not got it nailed
yet :-)

- David

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Dept. Commerce, University of Queensland, St. Lucia, AUSTRALIA
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I'm sure it's been updated since this was posted, but this should
point you towards the right direction.  Good luck!

>  kbs

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From: sys_hjk@LIFRA.LIF.DE (Hans-Joachim Koch)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: How much to charge for CPU time?
Date: 9 Oct 92 08:59:05 GMT
Reply-To: koch@lifra.lif.de
Organization: Lahmeyer International GmbH, Frankfurt/Main, Germany

In article <7OCT199222350711@spades.aces.com>, gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546) writes:
>	Oh hey:
>		One cpu second   = $0.00001
>		One page fault   = $0.00001
>		Stupid questions = $10
>	That will be ten dollars please.  For both of you.
>	Send checks to address below.
>	Ehud
>Ehud Gavron        (EG76)     

Hey Ehud, nice to see you back in the net. You're well know for answers like 
that above - even in Germany... :-)

But the question is REAL, no joke, no stupidity. My management wants to bill 
the computer usage to the departments and (at higher rates) to a subsidiary.
What's wrong with that? Therefore I need to know price/connect-minute, 
price/cpu-second batch/interactive, price/printed pages, tape-mounts, disk 
usage,...

I'm sure it depends on the type of hardware used. A second on a Cray will be 
more expensive than on our VAX-8530/4000-300 cluster.

Any real help (not the Ehud-type answers :-) is welcome.
Thanks. Hans.
-- 
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Lyoner Strasse 22, POB 71 06 51, D-6000 Frankfurt (Main) 71, Germany
Phone: +49 69 6677-642, Fax: +49 69 6677-571, Tx: 413478 li d
Email: koch@lifra.lif.de, dk9om@dk9om.ampr.org [44.130.25.45]
From: bill@bill.ab.umd.edu (Bill Bame)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: What is Kerberos?
Keywords: Kerberos
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:33:48 GMT
Reply-To: bill@office.ab.umd.edu
Organization: M.I.E.M.S.S.

Well Paul, what Kerberos is depends on who you ask.  In the Kerberos docs it
is described as a distributed authentication protocol.  If you browse through
the comp.protocols.kerberos news group you will get a feel for what it does
and how.  There are also several excellent documents available from MIT about
it.  Unfortunately I don't have the address, I just grabbed what I could find
last time I was at MIT.

I believe either project Athena (if it still exists) or project Pilgrim would
be a good place to start looking.

There are also archive sites with Kerberos source code and docs.  I believe
ftp.uu.net is one of them - an Archie search would undoubtedly turn up lots
more.

-Bill

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From: 9113797@ul.ie
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: HELPED NEEDED WITH READING SCREEN
Date: 8 Oct 92 10:39:39 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

I was wondering if any of you know, if is it possible to read a character
at a given location on the screen.

ie. 
I need a routine that would tell me what letter is on
the screen at .... say row 10 column 15 for example.


And if you think it isn't possible please say so.


Thanks.

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* Information technology - ECE Dept     *                                      *
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: rajar@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Chandra Rajaraman)
Subject: HELP needed: installation of VMS 5.5
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:39:57 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

Hi,

I am a new VMS user (most of my three-year experience has
been in Unix environments) and have been given
the job of installing VMS 5.5 on a Microvax II that
is currently running VMS 4.6.

When I do a standalone Backup boot, I get
the following message:

--------
2..

?43 FILESTRUCT, MUA0
?06 HLT INST
PC=00000EE6

FAILURE.
------
I can understand that there is a problem with
the distribution tape (there are two TK50s)
containing the standalone Backup, but
I do not have a clue what to do now.

Documentation is limited: the installation and
upgrade guide and supplement, are both unavailable.

Thanks for all help received in advance.

Chandra
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: mchenry@BAEPV4.NCSU.EDU (MCHENRY@BAE.NCSU.EDU)
Subject: Dynamic Sysgen Params: Summary
Reply-To: mchenry@BAEPV4.NCSU.EDU (MCHENRY@BAE.NCSU.EDU)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:39:59 GMT

>
>16-OCT-1992 10:41:31.13
> 
>
>Hello:
>
>
>We have a curious situation where when we make changes with supposedly
>dynamic sysgen parameters, the actual change dosen't take place until
>a reboot has occured. We discoverd this by accident when someone had
>been increasing the parameter DESMBXBUFQUO , a dymamic parameter,
>in an attempt to improve DECwindows performance.When he saw no
>effect he continued to increase it until he had put it at a level
>where it was going to cause a problem. It did cause problems after
>a reboot and we could not undo the damage until we rebooted again.
>
>Aren't changes in dynamic parameters supposed to have an immediate
>effect? What would cause the change not to go into effect until
>after the reboot. 
>
>We have a 5 node cluster running 5.4-3 .
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Kevin R. McHenry
>
>
>
16-OCT-1992 14:36:02.53
 

Thanks for the replies folks. It seems that "operator error" had
something to do with this problem.

Fro those who might not know, "Write active" needs to be entered after
changing a dynamic sysgen parameter in order for it to go into 
immediate effect. We were entering "Write Current" which makes the
change to disk and waits for the next reboot before going into
effect.