HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mccabe@gdls.CSCTMD.COM (Harold McCabe)
Subject: Re: A NEW WAY TO REDUCE THE PUBLIC DEBT
Organization: Computer Sciences Corp. @ General Dynamics
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:13:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.180124.28457@ole.cdac.com>, ssave@ole.cdac.com (The Devil Reincarnate) writes:
> In article <30380002@hpspkla.spk.hp.com> richards@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Darrell H. Richardson) writes:
> 
> Inflation in a country like USA will skyrocket to hyperinflation
> in a matter of months if the Govt. started to print more money.

I am concerned about many references (both here and on misc.invest) to the
US Federal government `printing more money' because according to my
limited understanding, `print more money' is not an easy thing to do.
I think what is meant is the expansion of the monetary base.  The Federal
Reserve has, I think, two ways to do this:  non-borrowed reserves at
federal banks (which it influences by reserve requirements and interest
rates on loans between banks and between a bank and the Federal Reserve)
and open market operations.  Apparently, the Federal Reserve does not have
a *lot* of control over the monetary base, because the Federal Reserve
would like to expand the monetary base, but it is not expanding when
measured by M2.  If the Federal Reserve is perceived as wildly expanding
the monetary base, won't the money markets recognize this and cause the
cost of borrowing to increase?  And then, wouldn't the reserves at banks
diminish as depositors pulled their money to take advantage of higher
interest rates?
Wouldn't this make wild expansion of the
monetary base very difficult for the Federal Reserve?  Is the printing
of more money a real, or merely perceived, danger?  Someone please explain
this to me:  I am neither an economist nor a financier.

Harold McCabe


Newsgroups: sci.econ,talk.politics.theory
From: brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Brian K. Yoder)
Subject: Re: Economic Discrimination was Outgrowing Libertarianism...
Organization: Quake Public Access
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:42:28 GMT

In article <BvB6qr.L42@apollo.hp.com> nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson) writes:
>In article <Bv6KvK.6B@quake.sylmar.ca.us> brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Brian K. Yoder) writes:

>>>Your behavior today is conditioned by many years of struggle, 

>>That sounds like so much marxist/Skinnerian abti-free will claptrap.  I have
>>the beliefs I do because I can think and I have looked at the facts and I have
>>drawn certain conclusions.

> Ahh, the self-made-mam!   Mr. Yoder seems to think that if he were born
> with different genes, in a different time, in a different culture, that
> he would have reached the same conclusions about the world, or at least
> reached them in the same way.   Perhas he would care to provide some 
> evidence for this.

What I know is that mental contents are not dependent on race or chronology.
I know people of all races with ideas similar to mine, and different from mine.
What you seem to be saying here is that mental abilities are not at the
command of the individual who posesses them.  Don't you think that is just
a little bit racist?  My ideas are NOT determined by my culture (if they were,
how can you explain my disagreements with that culture?).  They are not 
determined by the year I was born in, people born at different times have 
had different ideas and people born at the same time have different ideas.
If you think this is the case though, why bother reading USENET?  It obviously
cannot have any effect on your genetic and culturally-defined ideas.  Why
don't you just leave since you cannot be changed by these ideas?

>>So, it is not a process of reason which changes people's minds on issues like
>>this, it is subtle conditioning.  Nonsense.  What do you attribute this 
>>"conditioning" to?  Rational choices?  Historical necessity? Arbitrary chance?
>>The manipulations of the ignorant masses by an enlightened elite?

>  At least.   Humans are complex, who knows how they turn out the way
>  they do?   But there has been some interesting research which I posted
>  here a while back, suggesting that humans' brains are optimized for  
>  solving problems in terms of social hierachies, rather than the
>  rationality that some people like to think.  

What do you mean by "in terms of social hierarchies"?  What I know is that when
I look at an issue, I think about it by reasoning.  If you "think about"
thinkgs by appeals to social hierarchies rather than to reason.  If you
don't want to look at the facts and don't want to use reason, then why should
I bother wasting my time talking to you?

--Brian

Xref: sparky sci.econ:7883 talk.politics.misc:48743
From: jmo@livia.princeton.edu (Mike Orszag)
Newsgroups: sci.econ
Subject: Re: Problems with Neo-Classical Economics
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:32:53 GMT
Organization: Princeton University

Mr. Thompson:

I must say that I agree with just about everything you say. I didn't
mean to go so far as to say that the theory has no predictive power;
for instance, it predicts some reasonable correlation between changes
in consumption and interest rates (a.k.a. the Euler equation) which
just isn't in the data. The theory does not make sharp predictions
because it allows for just about any type of utility function. 
The representative agent assumption is not necessarily a bad one
but I am not sure what it has to do with a self-consistent theory
based on microfoundations which is what it is sold as.

As you say and as the critics should realize, most theories are
examined based on at most 400 aggregate time series 
observations or so. Given the paucity of data, economists
have done remarkably well at explaining a wide variety of phenomena;
all I meant to say was that there is much to be done.

MIKE
Newsgroups: sci.econ
From: garry@monarch.eng.ufl.edu (Garry Peterson)
Subject: Re: Problems with Neo-Classical Economics
Reply-To: garry@monarch.zoo.ufl.edu (Garry Peterson)
Organization: ARTHUR MARSHALL LAB
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 18:27:40 GMT

re: problems with neo-classical economics
Being the assumptions of:
perfect information, perfect rationality, and non-valuable externalities.

> pkbockus@gsbphd.uchicago.edu (Keith Bockus) writes:
>
>I don't see these at all as arguing against free trade.
>You seem to suggest that market participants labor under
>certain constraints not discussed in Econ 101, but that
>gov't bureaucracies are somehow immune.

My claim is that neo-classical economics leads to one to incorrect
conclusions, because the assumptions it is based upon are false.

I would like to discuss what people think of these assumptions, not
the differences between free and regulated markets.

Thanks,

Garry Peterson
Arthur Marshall Lab, University of Florida
From: rp@llex.ll.mit.edu ( Richard Pavelle)
Newsgroups: sci.econ
Subject: Deficit - can it be corrected?
Date: 2 Oct 92 01:25:32 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Originator: rp@llex


Is it possible to show that the deficit can, in fact, be paid back (if that is
the correct term) as opposed to wiping it out and starting over. It seems
intuitive that if the size of the deficit is sufficiently large, there is no
possibility of paying it back.

 

 
 
Newsgroups: sci.econ
From: baker@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Andrew Baker)
Subject: Re: Is This Offer A SCAM?
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 00:12:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.205938.8641@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> grasmeye@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Joel M. Grasmeyer) writes:
>I just received two promotional offers from American Clearinghouse and a
>company called Mastercare International, Inc.  They offer a "guarantee" 
>of receiving one of four prizes--a car, a TV, a vacation package, or $5,000.
>In turn, I am "asked" to try some cleaning products or a water filtration 
>system.  Are either of these offers valid?  Are the companies themselves valid?
>Are there any laws governing these companies, or requiring them to come through
>with the prize?  What sources could I use to research the validity of these 
>offers?
> 
>Any response would be greatly appreciated.
>


What does the fine print say?  Usually, the vacation packages for
these scams require you to buy something (like non-discounted airfare).


Newsgroups: sci.econ
From: pacolley@ember.UUCP (Paul Colley)
Newsgroups: kw.uucp
Subject: Choice of domain name
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:02:41 GMT
Reply-To: pacolley@ember.UUCP (Paul Colley)
Distribution: kw
Organization: Ember---private system

Ed Hew writes:

>Newsgroups: kw.uucp
>From: Ed Hew <qucis!xenitec.on.ca!eah>
>Subject: Re: KW domains
>Organization: XeniTec Consulting, Kitchener, Ontario, CANADA
>
>In summary, KW area organizations who only maintain offices within
>one city may register under whichever is appropriate:
>	.waterloo.on.ca
>	.kitchener.on.ca
>	.kitchener-waterloo.on.ca
>	.cambridge.on.ca
>	.guelph.on.ca

Everybody seems to agree that having a domain name is the "right"
thing to do.

But I find it annoying:  I intend to move!  When I moved from
Waterloo to Kingston, my email address of "pacolley@ember.uucp"
didn't change and I didn't get any reports of mail problems from
people.  This is the way it should be, IMHO.

What's the point of a domain name if I'm going to have change
domains every few years?  What about co-op students that move every
four months?  Not all of them stay in Canada either, let alone
Ontario.

Somebody told me to make up a company name and register under
"*.com".  Which seems silly, but is perhaps the best answer.  Do
they allow individuals to register under .com?  Is it as cheap as
under a geographic name?

Maybe I should register "John-Smith.com" now and resell it to the
highest bidder?  There should be enough people who want it to make
that a profitable enterprise!

Anyways, I'm hoping somebody has some good advice.

- Paul Colley
University:  colley@qucis.queensu.ca
Home:        pacolley@ember.uucp   watmath!ember!pacolley  +1 613 545 3807
<Ring> [...] "Sorry, I'm all booked up." "Who was that?" "The library." - B.C.

P.S.
I've been following kw.uucp mostly because there isn't much of a
UUCP community in Kingston---but I'm working on it!

Newsgroups: kw.uucp
From: sean@mks.com (Sean Goggin)
Subject: Re: KW domains
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
Distribution: kw
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:19:26 GMT

>mskucher@math.uwaterloo.ca (Murray S. Kucherawy [MFCF]) writes:
>Who "owns" kwnet.on.ca? 

I administer the network and have own it's primary system.

>Who are its members?

The current members are
	   u36.kwnet.on.ca
	shrdlu.kwnet.on.ca
	   bbi.kwnet.on.ca
	provar.kwnet.on.ca

Kwnet.on.ca was formed before .waterloo.on.ca and its purpose was 
to provide a "nice" name to a group of sites and to provide mail and news
if "Onet" got nasty.
The sites currently share the cost of a uucp connection to uunet.ca.

If you want to join our network email me.

-- 
Sean.Goggin..sean@mks.com.............Mortice.Kern.Systems.Waterloo.Ontario.Can.
Newsgroups: kw.uucp
From: ice@skynet.uucp (Ice)
Subject: How does PEP work?
Organization: Industrial Cybernetics
Distribution: kw
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 20:50:24 GMT

I am curious about how PEP works.

Is there a document out there somewhere that explains how it works?

Or maybe a mathematical explanationation? I assume it is some sort of
run-length encoding which is capable of dynamically changing as a function
of noise.

Even better, does there exists an implementation in pseudocode/C?

Ice()

Newsgroups: kw.uucp
From: timk@tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Tim Kuehn)
Subject: Re: KW domains
Organization: TDK Consulting Services
Distribution: kw
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:52:10 GMT

In article <BvEIw4.D4y@math.uwaterloo.ca> mskucher@math.uwaterloo.ca (Murray S. Kucherawy [MFCF]) writes:
>What's the difference between kwnet.on.ca (eg. u36) and waterloo.on.ca
>(eg. tdkcs)?

That's a good question. I made my application through the appropriate 
committe, had to fend off almost having to register under the name 
"kitchener-waterloo" (arg!), and wound up with the waterloo name when
everything was said and done.

Waterloo was obtained since it's the next geographical division. (The 
next higher being "on" for ontario, and "ca" for canada.).

I don't know what or how "kwnet" came to be, someone else will 
have to speak for them.

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Tim Kuehn | TDK Consulting |(519)-888-0766| 				|
| <><       | Services       | timk@tdkcs.uucp timk@tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca|
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From: eah@xenitec.on.ca (Ed Hew)
Subject: Re: KW domains
Organization: XeniTec Consulting, Kitchener, Ontario, CANADA
Distribution: kw
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1992 19:21:27 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.225011.19693@mks.com> sean@mks.com (Sean Goggin) writes:
>In article <BvEIw4.D4y@math.uwaterloo.ca> mskucher@math.uwaterloo.ca (Murray S. Kucherawy [MFCF]) writes:
>>What's the difference between kwnet.on.ca (eg. u36) and waterloo.on.ca
>>(eg. tdkcs)?
>
>kwnet.on.ca is a private organization

Which directly (and correctly) implies that only hosts within that
organization have a right to use that (registered) subdomain.

>waterloo.on.ca is a general geographic domain

...as is "kitchener.on.ca".  We (at the .CA domain committee level)
did have a discussion on the validity of "kitchener-waterloo.on.ca",
and that _would_ be a legal subdomain as well, albeit for masochists
who enjoy typing more than necessary.  There are no legal abbreviations
for these at this time, and hence they must be spelled out in full.

In summary, KW area organizations who only maintain offices within
one city may register under whichever is appropriate:
	.waterloo.on.ca
	.kitchener.on.ca
	.kitchener-waterloo.on.ca
	.cambridge.on.ca
	.guelph.on.ca

If you have offices in various cities within the province, registration
under		.on.ca		is appropriate, and if you have offices
in multiple provinces, you would qualify for registration directly under
.CA.  The salient question is "where do your customers go to find you?"

You may request .CA subdomain registration forms and information
from "registry@cs.toronto.edu".

                --ed            (Ed Hew)
--
        Canadian UUCP Map Coordinator           <path@cs.toronto.edu>
   ==>  UUCP liason to .CA Domain Registry	<registry@cs.toronto.edu>
        XeniTec Consulting Services             <edhew@xenitec.on.ca>
Newsgroups: kw.uucp
From: mskucher@math.uwaterloo.ca (Murray S. Kucherawy [MFCF])
Subject: Re: KW domains
Organization: Math Faculty Computing Facility, University of Waterloo, Canada
Distribution: kw
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 05:49:33 GMT

eah@xenitec.on.ca (Ed Hew) writes:
>sean@mks.com (Sean Goggin) writes:
>>mskucher@math.uwaterloo.ca (Murray S. Kucherawy [MFCF]) writes:
>>>What's the difference between kwnet.on.ca (eg. u36) and waterloo.on.ca
>>>(eg. tdkcs)?
>>
>>kwnet.on.ca is a private organization
>
>Which directly (and correctly) implies that only hosts within that
>organization have a right to use that (registered) subdomain.

The details aren't what I was looking for - I didn't know that there was
anything other than waterloo.on.ca, and when kwnet.on.ca appeared, I
wondered if it was the same or different or what.

Who "owns" kwnet.on.ca?  Who are its members?

>>waterloo.on.ca is a general geographic domain
>[...]
Newsgroups: kw.uucp
From: mskucher@math.uwaterloo.ca (Murray S. Kucherawy [MFCF])
Subject: KW domains
Organization: Math Faculty Computing Facility, University of Waterloo, Canada
Distribution: kw
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:21:39 GMT

What's the difference between kwnet.on.ca (eg. u36) and waterloo.on.ca
(eg. tdkcs)?
From: geoff@zswamp.UUCP (Geoffrey Welsh)
Newsgroups: kw.uucp
Subject: Re: kw-archive, redundant interconnectivity
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 11:58:19 EDT
Organization: Izot's Swamp

> No, it's always a struggle to scratch up enough cash for the
> hardware and connectivity you need.
> [...]
> Private individuals usually need less, consume less, contribute
> less, and can afford less.

   While this is certainly true, the fact remains that the low-end 
connectivity world is driven by the WANT of the public, not the NEED of 
companies such as Xenitec.  Unfortunately, the cost of IP keeps it firmly out 
of reach of those who want, rather than need, IP facilities.  The result is 
that things like Canada Remote Services and FidoNet spring up, and dialup UUCP 
operators worry about whether they can afford to continue when ONet stops 
giving them a free ride. <grin>

> > While I didn't explicitly say this, the "Publically available" implied 
> > "publically affordable" :-) Not too many of us could afford $50 / month 
> > plus $6 / hr with a $600 / month max  plus telco line charges for an IP 
> > link. 

   Hmm, isn't the monthly maximum lower for dialup IP ($400), and the use of 
a PSTN line for local calls in K-W about $12/month?

> Sorry, I didn't see that implicit.  Of course, now that you mention
> it, I'm not aware of any reason why an organization such as KWUUG
> couldn't buy an IP connection as a group and divvy up both the
> bandwidth and cost in some proportionate manner.

   You've answered that question yourself:

> Translation:  somebody has to put in an IP capable box, os, and
> appropriate phone lines and modems.  [...]  This is still an
> expense both in terms of acquisition and maintenance.  The former
> requires "up-front" money, and the latter could be handled by some
> suitably qualified and dedicated volunteers.  (No, not myself!)

> IP is nice if you can swing the cost and the time to keep things
> working nicely.  Can KWUUG do this (in aggregate) and does "it"
> want to?  This is not a trivial adventure, although the payoff
> is rather wonderful.

   Isn't this what this discussion is about?

Geoffrey Welsh, 7 Strath Humber Court, Islington, Ontario, M9A 4C8 Canada
geoff@zswamp.uucp, [xenitec.on.ca|m2xenix.psg.com]!zswamp!geoff (416)258-8467
         Coincidentally, most people who fight for "fairness" would be
         significantly better off under the system they call "fair"...
Newsgroups: kw.uucp
From: sean@mks.com (Sean Goggin)
Subject: Re: KW domains
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
Distribution: kw
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:50:11 GMT

In article <BvEIw4.D4y@math.uwaterloo.ca> mskucher@math.uwaterloo.ca (Murray S. Kucherawy [MFCF]) writes:
>What's the difference between kwnet.on.ca (eg. u36) and waterloo.on.ca
>(eg. tdkcs)?

kwnet.on.ca is a private organization

waterloo.on.ca is a general geographic domain

-- 
Sean.Goggin..sean@mks.com.............Mortice.Kern.Systems.Waterloo.Ontario.Can.
Newsgroups: kw.housing
From: zulf@watsci.uwaterloo.ca (Zulfikar Morbi)
Subject: Room Wanted Immediately
Originator: zulf@watsci.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: kw
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:51:27 GMT

	Graduate student, mature female non-smoker, looking for a furnished
room or self-contained apartment close to the University of Waterloo. Rent
approximately $300 per month, utilities included, private bathroom, kitchen
and laundry facilities required. Please reply by calling 888-4737.
	I am posting this for a friend, so you can also reply to this E-mail
address.


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Zulfikar Morbi 			| 66 Mooregate Crescent Apt. 1701
University of Waterloo		| Kitchener, Ontario
Waterloo, Ontario		| N2M 5E6
(519)-888-4737			| (519)-744-8107
				|
		    zulf@watsci.waterloo.edu
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Newsgroups: kw.housing
From: ejdavies@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca (Eric Davies)
Subject: looking for quiet accommodations
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: kw
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 17:48:41 GMT


A medical intern is looking for a quiet place to live,
hopefully close to the university or the KW hospital.
He's looking at about $300/month. If you've got something
close, you can reach him at KW hospital:
        742-3611 ext 2315 and ask for Justin.

If you send email, I'll relay.

Eric Davies.
Newsgroups: kw.housing
From: zulf@watsci.uwaterloo.ca (Zulfikar Morbi)
Subject: Re: Apartment for rent
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: kw
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:55:09 GMT


Newsgroups: kw.housing
From: rob@audiolab.UWaterloo.ca (Rob Wannamaker)
Subject: WANTED room
Originator: rob@audiolab.UWaterloo.ca
Organization: Audio Research Group, University of Waterloo
Distribution: kw
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:31:42 GMT

I'm a male Ph.D. student who is looking for accomodation beginning
immediately.  I have a car and will need some place to put it.  Also,
I can't handle basement rooms and, while I don't necessarily require 
lavish furnishings, a bed with mattress would be nice.  

If you've got a suitable room to rent, drop me some e-mail.

Thanks in advance,
Rob Wannamaker
Newsgroups: kw.housing
From: rmbyers@descartes.uwaterloo.ca (Randy Byers)
Subject: Room available for sublet -> Jan-Apr '93!!!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: kw
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:22:23 GMT

Room Available for Sublet -> Jan-Apr 1993

- large, furnished room available in big house
- seperate phone line for the room
- two bathrooms in house, two showers - both can be used at once
- kitchen with two fridges, stove
- furnished dining and living room
- several BIG storage rooms
- free cable
- oil furnace - all the heat and hot water you want
- on bus route
- free parking

- $300 per month, all utilities included (except phone)

- 125A Waterloo St., Kitchener (just over KW dividing line)
- on the corner of Waterloo and Roger

- 8 minute walk to King St. 
  (perfect for co-ops working at the Mutual Group (me))
- 25 minute walk to Laurier
- 30 minute walk to UW
- 2 minute walk to Mac's milk
- close to mall on Bridgeport & Erb (Dutchboy)

- call Randy at 576-7998, weekends or after 5:00pm on weekdays

Newsgroups: kw.housing
From: sadovnik@caddac1.uwaterloo.ca (A. Sadovnikov)
Subject: Apartment for rent
Originator: sadovnik@caddac1.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: kw
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:45:08 GMT

	The main floor of a small house for rent.
Available from the 1st of January, 1993
Two bedrooms, living room, large kitchen, bathroom.
Private entrance.
Only one quiet lady upstairs.
Located on very quiet street near Waterloo town square
15-17 minutes walk to UW via Waterloo Park.
Semi-furnished.
Fully renovated in August, 1992.
Responsible people only!
$550/month + utilities.
For further information:
ext.2190 E-mail: sadovnik@caddac.uwaterloo.ca

Newsgroups: kw.general
From: walter@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (w mccutchan -- computing services)
Subject: Re: Where can I donate used clothes
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: kw
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 16:38:03 GMT

In article <BvKKnB.Kto@math.uwaterloo.ca> jklancto@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Kevin Lanctot) writes:
>I have some clothes that are still in good condition but I don't
>wear them anymore.  Does anyone know of a place in KW were I can
>drop them off. (Preferably a place close to the University of 
>Waterloo).
>
>-- Kevin Lanctot
>

There is a Goodwill collection box in the parking lot of Westmount
Place Shopping Centre -- that is the closest one I know of to UW.
Newsgroups: kw.general,uw.general
From: rbutterw@math.uwaterloo.ca (Ray Butterworth [MFCF])
Subject: Re: Small Business Oportunity
Organization: Math Faculty Computing Facility, University of Waterloo
Distribution: kw
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:29:11 GMT

In article <BvCt8o.8pq@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> bjpocock@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Beastor the Mad) writes:
>The organization that does this makes about 4 billion a year in gross income,
>is completely debt free, and has 800,000 people in it.  This is not a scam
>operation.  Fortune 500 rated this one of the TOP 10 small business operations
>in the world to begin.

If it's so wonderful, why not post all the details here that you
would give if we were to go to one of your meetings?
Newsgroups: kw.general,uw.general