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From: dellis@Auspex.COM (David Ellis)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: salmon fishing
Keywords: SALMON
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:13:36 GMT
Distribution: ca





		A FISHIN I WILL GO..   
		A FISHIN I WILL GO... 
		THIS IS FOR ALL YOU SALMON OUT THERE 
		A FISHIN I WILL GO.....

		
		a friend of mine just went last weekend
		and hooked (7) and lost (3) (snapped
		his line)  average weight was 25 lb's 
		This was all in approx. 4-5 hours.

		I'll give you a report on how I do,
		I`m going for (4) days,mostly catch 
		and release.


		UNTIL THEN  SEE Y`ALL       

	Dave Ellis 


	A GOOD DAY FISHING IS LEAVING YOUR TROUBLES BEHIND.
	 	A GOOD DAY FISHING IS LEAVING YOUR TROUBLES BEHIND.
From: bill.garrison@cccbbs.UUCP (Bill Garrison) 
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: FLYING LURER
Date: 18 Aug 92 02:13:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Cincinnati Computer Connection BBS - Cincinnati, OH - 513-752-8248
Reply-To: bill.garrison@cccbbs.UUCP (Bill Garrison) 

TO:ALL

Does anyone have experience with the flying lurer that as been
advertised on TV? I have a hard time believing commercials.

Thanks Bill
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Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: hughesl@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (Larry Hughes)
Subject: Wanted: Source for good cane poles
Keywords: can't get to rec.outdoors.fishing
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 14:42:48 GMT

The subject basically says it all.  My dad, once an avid cane pole fisherman,
(see alt.south.culture) would like to find a source of good cane poles.  Not
the flimsy bamboo ones, but good solid cane.  If you know of a good source,
either where they can be ordered, or if you happen to live in the deep south
and have a couple of old one stashed away in your garage that you'd be willing
to part with, I would appreciate any information I can get.  

Thanks,

_   /|                 larry e. hughes
\`0_o'' Oop,           hughesl@atlantis.cs.orst.edu
 -( )=  Ack!           hughesl@orthanc.cor1.epa.gov
   U                   CI$: 70012,2213
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: dixon@spot.Colorado.EDU (Life is real?)
Subject: See you in REC.OUTDOORS.FISHING
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:41:22 GMT

Hi everyone!  Well, most of you know that rec.outdoors.fishing is
now the fishing newsgroup that's being used the most, i.e. last week
alone r.o.f got 119 posts while a.f only got 18.  The reason, if you
don't already know, is because *everyone* gets the rec.* newsgroups and
a whole lot of people *don't* get the alt.* newsgroups...in fact, that's
why I started rec.outdoors.fishing.  My apologies to those people who's
sites still haven't gotten rec.outdoors.fishing (only 3 weeks old) yet.  
Badger those sysadmins to allow new group creation, then subscribe to
rec.outdoors.fishing.  For the rest of you, you may already be getting
rec.outdoors.fishing but just don't know it.  Try 'go'ing to it or 
subscribing to it to see if it's there!

All of us in rec.outdoors.fishing look forward to seeing YOU there!

Brian D.
dixon@spot.colorado.edu
From: pro016@muvms3.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: COLORADO FLY-FISHING INFO NEEDED
Date: 13 Aug 92 10:25:40 GMT
Organization: Marshall University



I NEED ANY INFO ON FLY FISHING NEAR GUNNISON COLORADO.  I WILL BE FISHING
THERE ON OCTOBER  1- 4  ANY INFO ON FLY PATTERNS WILL BE APPRECIATED


Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: roa@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Robert O. Anderson)
Subject: So long, Joyce
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:41:45 GMT



        Goodbye, Joyce.  Enjoyed your postings........

        Go to Florida. Go striaght to Florida. Go as fast as you can

                and don't look back!!!!!!




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Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: sbobrows@us.oracle.com
Subject: Trinity/Klamath River Report Request
Organization: Oracle Corporation, USA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:25:59 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

Can anyone give me a recent trout fishing report for the Trinity/Klamath River
area in No. California?  Also, the paper has recently indicated that some
summer run salmon have been caught in the area -- any information?  One more,
any worthwhile shore fishing in Whiskeytown Lake?  I'll be going to all these
areas in the next two weeks and any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!
Steve
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From: huffstatler@esvax.avnet.com
Newsgroups: alt.fishing,rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Charters in San Diego
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:47:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: esvax.1992Aug20.144722.535
Distribution: usa
Organization: Avnet Computer - CTC Group; Culver City, CA

In article <1992Aug18.133644.9939@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, ken@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Ken Shenkman) writes:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I will be visiting San Diego over labor day weekend and was wondering
> if someone knew of a good charter boat so i can do some fishing while
> out there. i know it's kind of late, but I just decided to go.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Ken Shenkman
> ken@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu
> 

Well, you couldn;t ask for a much better time to try to fish from the San Diego
landings. The tuna bite right now is outstanding. It seems that it is indeed
turning out to be an "El Nino" year. It took a while for the bite to kick in,
but now its going full force.  There are MANy different landings in the San
Diego area to choose from. Depending what you are looking for, you can find
anything from open party 1/2 day boats, to multi-day long range, to 'any thing
you want' charters.   The hot ticket now is the 1 to 2 day tuna trips. These
range in price from ~85 to ~250, depending on the lenght of trip and number of
people. The last "limited load" trip that I took was a 1 day (depart 10pm
return ~9pm next night) with 40 passengers on a 95' boat for $130.00. 
As an example of the great tuna fishing going on right now, here are some
comparisons to last years counts that I found in the paper today;

    as of 8/2/92               1991          1992
              Yellowfin Tuna    13            25,892
	      Bluefin tuna     206            4,960
              Yellowtail      1,588           15,476
              Dorado             0            8,409

As for the landing, one of the biggest is a combination of 3 different
opeations. H&M LAnding, Point Loma Sportfishing, and Fisherman's Landing. They
all offer a very complete selection of trips to select from. From 1/2 day local
water trips, where by the way there is some excellent bass fishing now, to long
range 1 day plus trips.   Since you are coming over labor day, I'd book a slot
as far ahead of time as possible. I would expect it to be sold out well in
advance, at least for the tuna trips. Currently, a weekend tuna trek needs to
be booked at least 3-4 days ahead.

Here are a couple of the phone numbers. If you need more info, or would like
the names of some of the smaller operations, let me know. I'm sure I can pull
something together. Oh, btw, there is a very complete tackle shop with rental
rods available at the landing.   

Point Loma   (619)2221627
Fisherman's  (619)2220391
H & M's      (619)2221144
Lee Palm's   (619)2240387

Good Luck!  You should have decent results no matter what you choose to do. Let
me know your results if you decide to go.   
**The above info is purely personal observations & information. I have no
connection whatsoever to the landings mentioned. Be sure to contact them for
the latest accurate information.


Mike Huffstatler, Avnet Computer, Culver City, California
mike@esvax.avnet.com

 
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: king@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (joyce.l.king)
Subject: This is probably goodbye
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:24:13 GMT
Keywords: can't get to rec.outdoors.fishing

I still can't get to rec.outdoors.fishing, and it looks like
this job is over, too, so this is probably goodbye to all of
you, or at least those of you who are still reading alt.fishing.

I am probably moving back to South Florida, where I will live in
the Keys on weekends, I guess.  It still bothers me to live there
because overpopulation of humans is the single most important strain
on the environment, but much is happening, and there is much I can
do to help.  

If you come to the Keys, stop by Holiday Isle Marina in Islamorada
(you'll not miss it...it's where the traffic jam stops) and ask for
Fred King.  He runs the Islamorada Lady.  He'll know where I am, and
if it's the weekend, I'll probably be at the Florida Keys Wild Bird
Rehabilitation Center (MM 94, Key Largo) where the "environmentalist's
last stand" approaches.  I plan to outfit a pontoon boat with solar
panels and live a non-polluting life on Florida Bay for a while until
I finish my book.  I will, of course, live on fish I catch in the Bay,
which I will cook in a solar oven.  I will go hungry when it's cloudy,
I guess.  That or take plenty of seaweed, rice, and wasabi for sushi.

That's on weekends.  During the week I will be wearing panty hose and
doing the corporate thing  a few miles (50+/-) north.  There is still
one kid to get through college.  When he has finished his degree, well,
who knows?

So, goodbye...it's been fun.

       

-- 
                       Joyce Andrews King

Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: bill@gaza.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King)
Subject: Re: This is probably goodbye
Keywords: can't get to rec.outdoors.fishing
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 02:53:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.132413.9230@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> king@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (joyce.l.king) writes:
>
>I am probably moving back to South Florida, where I will live in
>the Keys on weekends, I guess.  It still bothers me to live there
>because overpopulation of humans is the single most important strain
>on the environment, but much is happening, and there is much I can
>do to help.  

	Thanx for the memories!
	Aloha,
	Bill King......

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    Fish on the Byte
From: dvanslyk@RDXSUN78.AUD.ALCATEL.COM (Don VanSlyke)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: WORMS IN FISH
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:23:50 GMT

I recently went fishing with two others at a farm pond in Missouri. 
One guy kept a couple of bass to eat. As he cleaned the fish, he
discovered that there were little worms or something similiar in the
meat of the fish. He said that this wasn't a problem as long as you
cook the fish. The other guy said that you should *not* eat these fish.
He also noted that these worms in the fish came from the cattle that 
use the pond. So.................................

1)Is it really safe to eat these fish if they are cooked?

2)Do these worms really come from cattle?

3)Should I find someone else to fish with?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Don
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Downing)
Subject: Re: This is probably goodbye
Keywords: can't get to rec.outdoors.fishing
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix & Think_Tank BBS
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:17:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.132413.9230@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> king@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (joyce.l.king) writes:
>I still can't get to rec.outdoors.fishing, and it looks like
>this job is over, too, so this is probably goodbye to all of
>you, or at least those of you who are still reading alt.fishing.
>
>I am probably moving back to South Florida, where I will live in
>the Keys on weekends, I guess.  It still bothers me to live there
>because overpopulation of humans is the single most important strain
>on the environment, but much is happening, and there is much I can
>do to help.  
>
>If you come to the Keys, stop by Holiday Isle Marina in Islamorada
>(you'll not miss it...it's where the traffic jam stops) and ask for
>Fred King.  He runs the Islamorada Lady.  He'll know where I am, and
>if it's the weekend, I'll probably be at the Florida Keys Wild Bird
>Rehabilitation Center (MM 94, Key Largo) where the "environmentalist's
>last stand" approaches.  I plan to outfit a pontoon boat with solar
>panels and live a non-polluting life on Florida Bay for a while until
>I finish my book.  I will, of course, live on fish I catch in the Bay,
>which I will cook in a solar oven.  I will go hungry when it's cloudy,
>I guess.  That or take plenty of seaweed, rice, and wasabi for sushi.
>
>That's on weekends.  During the week I will be wearing panty hose and
>doing the corporate thing  a few miles (50+/-) north.  There is still
>one kid to get through college.  When he has finished his degree, well,
>who knows?
>
>So, goodbye...it's been fun.
>
>       
>
>-- 
>                       Joyce Andrews King
>

You aren't, by any chance, related to Jimmy Buffett ?


-- 
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DOWNING ASSOCIATES, INC.
8 Doyle Lane, Hopkinton, MA 01748
508-435-4567
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: This is probably goodbye
Keywords: can't get to rec.outdoors.fishing
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:14:44 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Aug12.132413.9230@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> king@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (joyce.l.king) writes:
 
|So, goodbye...it's been fun.
 
The pleasure has certainly been ours.  Although the chance of me getting
down the Florida Keys to fish are pretty low I have enjoyed reading your
articles,  usually with a bit of envy.  

You'll be missed.
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| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
+============================================================================++
From: pacolley@ember.UUCP (Paul Colley)
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: Re: Resumes for fashion.
Keywords: resume fashion industry job search
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:47:32 GMT
Reply-To: pacolley@ember.UUCP (Paul Colley)
Organization: Ember---private system

In article <1992Aug09.013141.10572@jpradley.jpr.com> jpr@jpradley.jpr.com
(Jean-Pierre Radley) writes:

>But why does your posting, dated 7/31, only show up on my site on 8/8 ?
>-- 
>Jean-Pierre Radley   Unix in NYC   jpr@jpr.com   jpradley!jpr   CIS: 72160,1341

Propogation of alt groups is always subject to the mood and opinions
of your feed sites.  In solving propogation delays, the place to
start is with the "Path:" line of the header.  That will tell you
how the article reached you.

Anyone who is desperate to receive alt.fashion in particular can
arrange a UUCP feed from me (postmaster@ember.uucp).

An alternative would be to bug the creator of the group (Steve
Frampton, frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca) into creating a mailing
list which echoes the group.  This would allow more reliable
reception of the articles, and would also allow those who don't
have access to news to read the group.

In my humble opinion, creating a mailing list would be the preferred
solution.

- Paul Colley
University:  colley@qucis.queensu.ca
Home:        pacolley@ember.uucp   watmath!ember!pacolley  +1 613 545 3807
"Quantum Mechanics:  The dreams stuff is made of"    - Ken Burnside

Xref: sparky alt.fashion:154 alt.sewing:2383
From: kparker%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Kenneth Parker)
Subject: Re: Girls' Sox
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:03:14 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

All this talk about why girls where different sox than women, and
no-one has pointed out the obvious ...

    At least historicly, females claim there maturity-identity (i.e.,
    the age group with which they identify), particularly there
    sexual-maturity-identity, by the clothes they ware.  Wearing white
    sox has often been a way of saying, ``I'm still a girl, I really
    am more naive than it may appear''; where-as wearing hose have
    been a way of saying, ``I am a women, I really am more adult than
    it may appear''.

The details of the communication continue to change, to the point that
it's not clear to me that sox are that significant in the current
communication of ``The Message''.  In fact, it's not clear to me that
there currently is a large statistical difference between the sox worn
by women and those worn by girls.  But to the extent that there
remains a difference, it seems obvious that most of this difference is
about assertions of ADULTNESS or assertions of INNOCENCE.

Ken
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
From: talon@netcom.com (Franklin K. Avenell)
Subject: Finding obscure fashion
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 18:00:05 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Followup-To: alt.fashion
Distribution: ba

I recently tried to take my mother on a birthday shopping trip.  To my
dismay, I quickly discovered that "her" clothing cannot not be
commonly found in normal distribution channel.  Being my mother, she
is an older woman with a rather "full figure" and is rather selective
about color and material.  The material must be practical with cool
comfort being the key since she lives in a rather warm area.
Furthermore, she is looking for dressy, "classic" looking full length
dresses.  Her colors seem to be summerish.

I have difficulty believing that with the thousands of potentially
well dress older women in America that there are no designs
capitalizing on the market.  If anyone has any suggested designers or
locations for purchase in the Northern California (Bay Area) region,
please send me mail at talon@netcom.com.  Please do not post the reply
exclusively to this newsgroup as I do not normally read it.

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

talon

Newsgroups: alt.fashion
From: lgold@callahans.Cadence.COM (Lynn Gold)
Subject: Re: Tennis Fashions - Briefs
Organization: /mnt4/lgold/.organization
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1992 09:20:02 GMT

In article <oenv7s4@fido.asd.sgi.com> pauli@sgi.com (Paul Isaacs) writes:

>In article <70.996.uupcb@spacebbs.com> michael.hagerty@spacebbs.com (Michael Hagerty) writes:
>>While paging through Catalog Tennis '92, a Japanese publication I picked
>>up at Yaohan in San Jose, 


>Did you say Yaohan in San Jose?

>Is this like the Yaohan in New Jersey?  A full Japanese shopping center
>complete with toy store and supermarket?  Could this be true?

I'm not familiar with the one in New Jersey, but the description
sounds about right.

>Tell me it is!

>And tell me how to get there, please!

Take 280 to Saratoga Ave.  Head towards Saratoga.

Yaohan is in a strip mall approx. at the corner of Saratoga and Moorpark.

--Lynn
(just a satisfied customer)
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From: rice@kenyon.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: Re: Girls' sox
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:31:17 GMT
Organization: Kenyon College

> 	It could be habit why most girls wear white socks.  When I was in
> 	grade school, middle school, and high school, all of my gym 
> 	teachers made us wear white white socks because colored ones would
> 	(might) stain our feet when we worked out.  This is what they
> 	told us.  I have yet to have colored feet due to sweating in
> 	colored socks, but we were young and impressionable back then
> 	and besides that, it was part of our uniform.  


When my daughter was in middle school a long time ago, she was threatened with
a paddle if she didn't wear white soxes.  

Personally, I LOVE all the colorful socks. I live in the country and hope soon
to buy a pair with cow print (guernsey spots) on them. I'm afraid I've
influenced my granddaughter; she has carried it one step further and doesn't
wear matching sox!!! What freedom! Isn't it wonderful?

		Jo Rice
		RICE@KENYON.EDU
		Coordinator of User Services
		Kenyon College
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: L621035@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Televised Pro Bowling Schedules
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 18:48:35 GMT

Hi Luis.  There doesn't seem to be any consistancy in airing the Summer
Pro Tour, but you'll find that the PBA is aired on ABC affiliates every
Saturday ~3pm PST.  When they are on in the Summer, they usually follow
that time pattern also.  ESPN also airs Senior & Ladies pro tours.  I'm
not sure what days...Used to be Wednesday.
(Sometimes ABC airs the games at noon, if they're played on the West Coast)
I tried to e-mail, but it bounced.  Good luck with your shoes.
Pamela
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: L621035@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: SLIPPIN' & SLIDIN'
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 22:13:49 GMT

If your second step is with your right foot, (assuming you're right handed)
you might try a tennis shoe.  That foot is the pivot step, & you don't need
it to slide with.  I've seen this a lot on ABC Pro bowling.
Good luck.  Pamela
From: tony@banana.fedex.com (tony hickey)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: Re: Bowling league secretary
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:36:57 GMT
Organization: Federal Express Corp.

<F0O@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>   I might ask for an increase this year; NOBODY wants to be secretary
>for our league.  I could probably ask to have my amount doubled, and
>they wouldn't care; as long as didn't have to be secretary!
>                                                                [Tim]
I think $.15 per bowler per night is standard. It is hard to get volunteers
for secretary in our league also. I have suggested increasing(even doubling)
the pay to get a volunteer but usually no takers. It usually goes to a new
person on the league who quickly learns NEVER to do it again. It isn't worth
the hastle. I think the money should be collected by employees of the bowling 
alley anyway. If you dont pay, you dont bowl. PERIOD. NO EXCEPTIONS.
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: rich@devnet.la.locus.com (Rich Silva)
Subject: Re: Brunswick "Rhino Pro" (was Re: FAQ anywhere ???)
Reply-To: rich@locus.com
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:28:58 GMT

    Woops!   I should have read the entire message..... Sorry,
    for the confusion... But now, you have a second vote for
    using Used Balls...

-- 
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From: F0O@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: Re: Bowling league secretary
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:07:34 GMT
 <1992Aug14.133657.13987@banana.fedex.com>
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Aug14.133657.13987@banana.fedex.com>, tony@banana.fedex.com
(tony hickey) says:

>I think $.15 per bowler per night is standard. It is hard to get volunteers
>for secretary in our league also. I have suggested increasing(even doubling)
>the pay to get a volunteer but usually no takers. It usually goes to a new
>person on the league who quickly learns NEVER to do it again. It isn't worth
>the hastle. I think the money should be collected by employees of the bowling
>alley anyway. If you dont pay, you dont bowl. PERIOD. NO EXCEPTIONS.

   This is how we do it at our league.  The team captain will collect the
money from the members of the team, then he will take that money up to
the main desk.  Every now and then one team will be late to pay, in which
case I have to go and remind them.  All I do with the money after I have
it is put it in the bank.

                                                            [Tim]
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling