HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: John.Schulien@uic.edu
Subject: Re: Alternate Tape Distribution Method
Reply-To: John.Schulien@uic.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:12:37 GMT

begonias@wam.umd.edu (Jeremy Ritzer) writes:
| Dear net folks:
|
| I recall last year there was a lot of grumbling from many of the people
| who jumped onto the Boston and Madison Square Garden trees about how slow
| they were and how inferior the quality of the tapes were.  I also recall
| that someone batted around the idea that there were alternatives.  As I

Here's an alternative method. I call it a Tape Mushroom.

First you decide what tape you want. Say, MSG 9/10/91. Next you get the
names of four other people who would like to get copies of 9/10/91.

Write all the names on a sheet of paper, with your name on the bottom.

Send this sheet to 10 people you know who you think might have a decent
copy of 9/10/91, along with the following instructions:

+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|                                                                         |
| o DEAR TAPEHEAD: You have been selected to participate in a Tape        |
|   Mushroom for Madison Square Garden 9/10/91!                           |
|                                                                         |
| o Obtain and send a copy of MSG 9/10/91 to the top name on this sheet.  |
|                                                                         |
| o Remove the top name from the sheet and add your name to the bottom.   |
|                                                                         |
| o Send a copy of these instructions to 10 people who you think might    |
|   be able to come up with a decent copy of MSG 9/10/91.                 |
|                                                                         |
| o Within a few weeks, you will receive tens of thousands of copies of   |
|   MSG 9/10/91. Listen to all the copies and save the best sounding      |
|   tape. Odds are out of all those thousands of tapes *someone* will     |
|   send you a high quality soundboard! Save the rest of the tapes for    |
|   future Tape Mushrooms. Oh yeah, buy stock in Maxell. You won't        |
|   regret it!                                                            |
|                                                                         |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

:-)

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: "Timothy J. Dalton" <dalton@mtl.mit.edu>
Subject: Setlist: JGB@Warfield, 12/21/92
Reply-To: dalton@mtl.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:41:17 GMT


Jerry Garcia Band - Monday, December 21, 1992
The Warfield Theater, San Francisco, CA

How Sweet It Is
Stop That Train
Run For The Roses
Forever Young
What A Wonderful World It Is
He Ain't Give You None
Sisters and Brothers
Deal

Shining Star
Strugglin' Man
Waiting For A Miracle
Tore Up
Lay Down Sally
Lucky Old Sun
Tangled Up In Blue

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Randy Schechter <randys@sun1.wwb.noaa.gov>
Subject: Dead not as popular?!?
Reply-To: randys@sun1.wwb.noaa.gov
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:34:31 GMT

Before you do handstands regarding the Dead's loss of popularity
consider all the shows that got cancelled in the summer and fall
(Oregon,SHoreline,Cap. Center,Philly etc.)--most, if not all of these
shows would have sold out and if you add the $ from these shows to
what they actually grossed I think that would have put them near
the top again!! I think you're a little hasty in assuming that
the Dead's popularity is on the wane. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Take cre
                                   Randy
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From: "RAM DEMO" <rdemo37@psilink.com>
Subject: Dead sighting
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:18:17 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.3)

Spencer Katt (Rumor Central correspondent for PCWeek) has come out with 
his second Dead reference in the past 3 weeks.  In this week's issue 
(December 21) Spencer muses on the new President-elect and says:

"Are the Grateful Dead really scheduled to play at Bill Clinton's 
inauguration, and will they open with 'Inhale to the Chief'?"
From: glambert@pyramid.com (George Lambert)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: New Hotline Message/Spring Tour
Date: 24 Dec 92 00:53:46 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology

There is a new hotline message as of Dec 23.  I haven't heard it, so can't
post the details.  Right coasters will want to know that it contains
Spring Tour info and no Mardi Gras.

Good luck, happy holidays, and thanks to Grateful Dead and JGB for 11
shows this month (and yep, I'm a bit pooped from having seen all of 'em!)

George Lambert
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay)
Subject: Yay!  Dead not as popular?!? 
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:56:12 GMT


(From "USA Today", 12/22/92)  

TOP TOURS:  With 99% of box office recpeits tallied, here's the final ranking 
of 1992's top-grossing tours, according to the Jan. 8 issue of "Perfomance
Magazine":

U2, $67.9 Million (M$); Metallica, M$40.4; Guns'n'Roses, M$37.2; GRATEFUL
DEAD, M$31.9; Bruce Springsteen, M$27.9; Neil Diamond M$25.8; Elton John,
M$23.2; Hammer, M$19.3; Lollapalooza, M$18.6; and Garth Brooks, M$18.4.

(MY COMMENTS:)
Last year the Dead were first so naturally I'm elated that they appear to 
becoming less popular.  Maybe concerts will return, scene-wise, to pre-1987.
Well, it'll probably never be the same but closer would be nice. 
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: SIMON%XTAL0.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Subject: D'OH !  bad formatting of the year-by-year matrix
Reply-To: SIMON%XTAL0.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:02:59 GMT


I was so thrilled that I had fixed the bug in the year-by-year
matrix for the 1992 Year in Review, that I didn't check it
carefully before I sent it out.  It is thus not sorted in alphabetical
order, and contains a few minor bugs (i.e. 'RRain' instead of
'Rain').  Rather than post the entire matrix over again, let me just
say that I have the corrected one available for anyone who would
like it via email.  If you'd like to correct the one I posted yesterday
yourself, do the following:

1.  Remove the '>' before 'Do You Want to Dance'
2.  Change 'RRain' to 'Rain' (long story why it has to be RRain for the db...)
3.  Change 'extended tune up' to 'Extended tune up'
4.  Sort the sucker

Good luck, and I'll try to be more careful next time ...


take care,

ejs

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| Eric J. Simon       Harvard Univerity     HU GSAS BMCDB  (BMB) G3 |
|                     SIMON@HUXTAL.BITNET,  SIMON@XTAL0.HARVARD.EDU |
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Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Ken Kaufman <kaufman@gmuvax2.gmu.edu>
Subject: Re:  Yay!  Dead not as popular?!? 
Reply-To: kaufman@gmuvax2.gmu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:40:36 GMT

From: jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay)

| (From "USA Today", 12/22/92)  

| U2, $67.9 Million (M$); Metallica, M$40.4; Guns'n'Roses, M$37.2; GRATEFUL
| DEAD, M$31.9; Bruce Springsteen, M$27.9; Neil Diamond M$25.8; Elton John,
| M$23.2; Hammer, M$19.3; Lollapalooza, M$18.6; and Garth Brooks, M$18.4.

| (MY COMMENTS:)
| Last year the Dead were first so naturally I'm elated that they appear to 
| becoming less popular.  Maybe concerts will return, scene-wise, to pre-1987.

Unlikely.  Don't forget that 20+ shows were probably lost due to Jerry's
illness.  If Fall Tour, October and December go on as originally
scheduled, the Dead are no doubt comfortably in second on that list,
especially with a pricy MSG benefit show.

A better gauge would be to count the sellouts vs. non-sellouts.  Such a
statistic should be sufficient to convince you of today's unpremcmlxxxviiness.

==Ken (who incidentally attended 4 Shows in 1992 - more than I did in 1982-87)
From: stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve Portigal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: bill Graham Tribute
Date: 31 Dec 1992 10:54:16 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

  the tape I have of the Bill Graham tribute ends with the CSNY set, although
they say "there's lots more to come" when my tape ends. Was there more
broadcast? Either way, who played after that...

Thanks,
Steve
-- 
/-------------------------------------------------------------\
|  Steve Portigal  University of Guelph  Guelph, Ontario      |
|  stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (519) 824-4120 x 3580      |
\-------------------------------------------------------------/
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Beth Livingston <SASFXL@vm.sas.com>
Subject: Happy Holidays
Reply-To: SASFXL@vm.sas.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 16:00:40 GMT

Just wanted to thank y'all for a wonderful year full of good vibes, fascinating
information, and all the beautiful diversity of our community, flames
and friends alike..

No beautiful graphics here, just a sincere wish for each one of you to
have a joyous holiday and New Year.  In this season where peace on
earth is popular, even in TV commercials, it is our Deadhead community,
more than most people, I think, who work for and believe in peace on
earth, the divine spirit of man and the sacredness of all life, 365
days a year, not just Christmastime...

May your love lights shine....

               --- Peace and love to all of you,
                   Beth
                                   ____
Beth Livingston              |   //  %/\\   "Without love in the dream
sasfxl@vm.sas.com            |  ((  %/  ))   It'll never come true.."
SAS Institute, Inc.          |   \\%___//
These are my opinions, and   |     ^/\^      Practice random kindness
not anyone else's I know of! |     ::::   and senseless acts of beauty.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Stephanie Feuer <feuer@inference.com>
Subject: Golden Road
Reply-To: feuer@inference.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:08:31 GMT

I just received a flyer in the mail from The Golen Road.  It's
published annually, and it consists of reviews, anecdotes, opinions,
etc. (all about the boys, of course)  They say it's a "double issue
with more color than ever".  

To order, send $9 to: The Golden Road, 484 Lake Park Ave. #82,
Oakland, CA  94610.  The deadline to ensure that you are in the first
mailing is Jan. 25.

Hope you all had a great Christmas, Hanukkah, Boxing Day, etc.

-Steph

p.s. thanks to whoever sent the message about Message!Checks.  I
ordered a brochure, and the checks are really cool.
From: duane@thismoment.Corp.Sun.COM (Duane Day)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: WHAT ABOUT A TAPE-TREE SERVER?
Date: 23 Dec 1992 21:24:27 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: thismoment.corp.sun.com

In article <1992Dec23.034157.0603600@locus.com> yazz@locus.com (Bob Yazz) writes:
>It seems to me that the whole business of organizing a tape tree could
>be done by a computer program.

I've given such a system some thought in the past, too.

>Some standard questions like equipment quality could be quantified
>numerically, and religious issues like dolby and tape brand could
>be matched up too.

Not only that, but such a server could accept requests before a seed
had been offered.  I was thinking that it could even be programmed
to shoot off a request to tape-heads or dat-heads when the number
of requests for a given unseeded show exceeded a given threshhold.
(I have a feeling that there are lots of DAT owners who'd be willing
to make one extra DAT copy of a show if they knew they'd be making 
hundreds of netheads happy in the process.)

A bonus of the single-server approach is that one server handling 
all of the net trees would be able to do sanity checks when someone
(like me back during the MSG/Boston 91 trees) gets in over his or
her head by signing up to make several copies each of a zillion 
shows during the same one-week turnaround window. 

>Somewhat simpler than having an automated server would be a program
>that would take as input all the e-mail replies (filled-in forms)
>that an administrator gets and make a tree out of them.
>
>Any volunteers out there?  This could well be someone's Term Project
>for a computer science course.

Better yet, why don't we set up a mailing list for people that are
interested in discussing or contributing to this, and make a group 
project out of it?  Bob, if you'd like to set up such a list, let
me know.  Otherwise, I'd be willing to set it up on my system.

peace,
Duane
From: jao@majorca.progress.com (Jeffrey A. Owen)
Subject: Personal to Ihor
Keywords: Personal
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:13:53 GMT

Hi Ihor,

My mails to you keep bouncing back, taking a week each time :(.  Can you
try and contact me so that we can attend to our tree involvement?

I remember getting a message from an admin person about mail changes on
your end, but alas I didnt hang on to the correct address :o.

Hopeful,

-jeff
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Joseph Galewsky <joe@miles.ucsc.edu>
Subject: 12/13/92 and 12/16/92 tapes/tape trees
Reply-To: joe@miles.ucsc.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:57:50 GMT

Any chance of getting tapes of these shows? I've been
out of town - has a tree been set up for them?  Can anyone
run a copy of these shows for me? Help? Someone?
joe@miles.ucsc.edu
:)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: "Barry S. Nichols" <BSNICH01@ulkyvm.louisville.edu>
Subject: JERRY: NOV 1991
Reply-To: BSNICH01@ulkyvm.louisville.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 23:45:55 GMT

7004 Ethan Allen Way, Louisville, KY  40272
Phone: 502-583-5835 (machine)
Does anyone have setlists for JGB: XI-6-1991 and XI-7-1991? Thanks for any
help.

"You should all jump up and down for two hours while I decide
 on a new career!!"  ----ZIPPY
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: "Doug Budzak" <DBUDZAK@IVY>
Subject: Western Upper Peninsula
Reply-To: DBUDZAK@IVY
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:24:04 GMT

Concerning the best fantasy location for the Dead to play - someone
mentioned 'the world's largest fungus, located in the western Upper
Peninsula of Michigan (near Iron Mountain)'. Well, as a confirmed
Yooper-who-just-happens-be-living-in-Indianapolis-these-past-13-years,
the fungus is located in Crystal Falls, MI. (yes, it's close to Iron
Mountain, but  so is Florence WI!). There's a great party spot where
the Dead could do an outdoor show - well, there used to be, back in
'76; just outside of Alpha. The band I was in at the time played for
the Alphaholics annual 4th of July blast. What a trip! Anybody else
ever been there?

SUOMI KUUTSU (or whatever that saying is.......)   - Doug Budzak
From: jko@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
Subject: Holiday Greetings
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Date: 23 Dec 92 18:56:38 GMT


To all you fellow net-heads!

Have a JERRY CHRISTMAS and a HIPPY NEW WEIR!

--------------------------------------------

:-)  JAMES - (KIMO)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: healy@nosc.mil (Mike Healy)
Subject: Re: Comments on New Riders of the Purple Sage
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:10:02 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.232311.28034@microsoft.com> mikesw@microsoft.com (Mike Swift) writes:
>
>I was in a local record store yesterday, and saw a few Relix releases of
>NRPS music.  Does anyone out there know much about the New Riders, and
>their disks?  Are they worth getting?  I've heard that their music
>is blue-grassy, but really have no idea what they were like.
>
>- Mike
>

Brings back memories of the acoustic set, Jerry playing pedal steel with NRPS, and
then the electric set. Those were some good concerts! They had some good countryish
songs.

Mike Healy

healy@nosc.mil


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: mfraase@mr.net (Michael Fraase)
Subject: My Problem Child Help
Reply-To: mfraase@mr.net (Michael Fraase)
Organization: Arts & Farces
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:06:23 GMT

Hey now,

Seems like a few weeks back or so someone mentioned an FTP citation for 
Albert Hoffman's _My Problem Child_. Would someone be so kind as to point me 
to the file?

--
Michael Fraase, proprietor       |     Voice: 612/698-0741
Arts & Farces                    |       Fax: 612/698-0741
2285 Stewart Avenue, Suite 1315  |  Internet: mfraase@mr.net
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Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: mc@vicorp.com (Mark Charalambous)
Subject: Re: Phil seals Vault
Organization: V. I. Corporation, Northampton, Massachusetts
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:37:46 GMT

kstewart@ptdcs2.intel.com (Kent Stewart) writes:




> 
>>>Yeah, ole Phil sure did a bang up job on Steal Your Face. <belch>  ;-) 
>>>Let's see you use impeccable taste and Steal Your Face in the same 
>>>sentence! 

>>Actually, wasn't it Phil who suggested they change the name of the album
>>to Steal Your Money?  ...or was it The Grateful Dead: Zits and All?
>>
>>Which leads to the next question: If it wasn't Phil, who the hell was
>>responsible for that (I hesitate to say) "album" ???


>As I understand it, Bear was responsible for the tapes being *so* bad,
>but Ron Rackow was responsible for legally obligating the Dead to release
>it.  You can't blame Phil, he had a gun to his head. He knew the tapes
>were shitty.  It took a lot of work just to make them as listenable as
>SYF is.  I remember some of the stuff the band said about this fiasco.
>Racow was insisting they had "really good material" there, and the band
>was thinking this guy "wouldn't know good material if it bit him in the ass."

Well, there may have been *some* decent material from the set of shows, but
none of it was picked for the release. I thought the shows were weak, and
thought how unfortunate it was because just a few weeks/months earlier the
Dead had played some great stuff (Philly in Aug, Providence, Boston, Miami
in June, etc...). Still, a decent trio of LPs could've been culled from the run.
I'd have gone with most of the stuff from the first night myself.

--Mark




Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: gaile@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com (Gail Edwards)
Subject: Re: Donna, JGB, Gospel tunes, 1976
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:32:48 GMT

In article <1gvrmrINN5m@morrow.stanford.edu> karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish) writes:
>In article <1992Dec18.130516.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
>jlovkay@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>>Listening to the 7/76 Keystone JGB, it sounds to me like the female vocals are
>>from Donna ! Is this true ? What is the time frame that she sang with JGB ?
>
>Are you sure it wasn't Maria Muldaur?

If memory serves, this show featured Keith on keyboards and Donna on vocals.
From: hbh@athena.mit.edu (Heidi Hammel)
Subject: Re: Look out of any windowpane
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:19:57 GMT

In article <4437@unisql.UUCP> wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
>  andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com writes:
>  > I say let the dealers fry. 
> I think it's sublimely evil perversity that allows a handful of
> rich bankers to bankrupt our Nation but destroys the life of a young man
> for a half-dozen blotters.

Right on, wharfie.  When will the WOR supporters ever get a clue?
Alcohol is an incredibly evil drug when abused and we've already
learned that prohibiting *that* sure doesn't work.  Prohibition,
especially of just *some* drugs, is *not* the solution.  *sigh*  

heidi
--
    Heidi B. Hammel   (hbh@astron.mit.edu)   MIT 54-416   EAPS Dept.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: tgoliber@alleg.edu(Tom Goliber)
Subject: Re: My Problem Child Help
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:22:12 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.001002.12522@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> Jeff Lester  
<lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com> writes:
> |Seems like a few weeks back or so someone mentioned an FTP citation for 
> |Albert Hoffman's _My Problem Child_. Would someone be so kind as to  
point me 
> |to the file?
> 
> I believe it was: soda.berkeley.edu
> 
> I haven't been able to get through lately (ftp down at my site).
> 
> -Jeff Lester

That's right - you can find it under pub/sfraves/chemistry.  The
name of the file is probchild.Z (the 'Z' means you'll need to
uncompress the file after you download it).  And thanks for bringing this
to my attention - I had been thinking of using this book for a class 
I'm teaching next semester but had been procrastinating trying to
find the ftp site!   :-)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: mikesw@microsoft.com (Mike Swift)
Subject: Dead Citing - at a hospital
Date: 29 Dec 92 02:51:04 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation


I picked this up off a humor mailing list:
--------------------------------------------------------

This item comes from Chuck Yerkes at Fusion Services in
New York:

"People" section of New York Newsday newspaper:

"As you know, docs in operating rooms often listen to
music. They used to listen to Bach, but, an upcoming
issue of "Longevity" (magazine) says that a country-
wide poll shows that they now listen to everything from
Muddy Waters to Stevie Ray Vaughan.  One doc at Sloane-
Kettering keeps them in stitches while listening to the
Lambada.

"Call us crazy, but we don't want our finger sewed back
on by someone who's groovin' to the forbidden dance!

"And the Number 1 choice at Johns Hopkins is -- are you
ready -- the Grateful Dead.  Doesn't anyone see how
upsetting this can be to a living patient?"

-------------------------------------------------------


Hmmmm.  Maybe I should go there next time I need to
see a doctor.

- Mike

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: JEFFREYM@sscvax.cis.mcmaster.ca
Subject: new and confused!?!?
Reply-To: JEFFREYM@sscvax.cis.mcmaster.ca
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:20:13 GMT

I am new to this wonderful game of Dead Flames.  It is most exciting, but
confusing sometimes as well.  I have no idea what FAQ means or is, nor do
I know what a tree is.  Can someone help me?
Let me know, I'm at JEFFREYM@SSCVAX.CIS.MCMASTER.CA

Thanks,
Mark
	Blind all the time, I was learning to see.

  
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: phred@well.sf.ca.us (Fred Heutte)
Subject: Re: Phil seals Vault
Keywords: Phil
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 02:40:54 GMT

In <BzDJ4u.E2B@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com> dwstein@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Donald Stein) writes:

>>  
>> Yeah, ole Phil sure did a bang up job on Steal Your Face. <belch>  ;-) 
>> Let's see you use impeccable taste and Steal Your Face in the same 
>> sentence!  OK, I'll try:
>> 
>> "Phil showed impeccable taste by not making SYF a four album set"   :-)
>>   

>I'll give it another try. Phil showed his impeccable taste by saying " Steal
>Your Face? Hah! Steal Your Money is more like it".  At least this is how I
>remember the quote.

>Don Stein
>dwstein@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com
Nonsense.  Unless I am totally mistaken, Lester Bangs of the Village Voice
delivered the famous review of 'Steal Your Face.'
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: RAD077 <INFORMM.RAD077@uiamvs.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Subject: dead-flames
Reply-To: INFORMM.RAD077@uiamvs.weeg.uiowa.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 01:12:37 GMT








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