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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:46:08 -0700
From:         Bob Wier <rrw@ELDEN.CSE.NAU.EDU>
Subject:      Janiel Stereo Processor
X-To:         homesat@vm1.nodak.edu

 I ordered one since the price is down into the $40 range (actually
 $39 plus $7 S/H).  There was a bit of a problem since I didn't know
 the item number and the woman on the phone at Shop at Home tried to
 charge me the pre - sale price ($69?). However, I told her I didn't
 think that was right, and I heard someone hollering at her that they
 had put the unit on sale.

 If anybody has (or can get) a schematic of the unit, I'd be interested.
 Maybe figure out a manual bandwidth override modification...


 - Bob Wier

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From: robe@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (robert.g.egan)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Need advice
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:06:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <1992Apr9.131700.24900@mr.med.ge.com>, larry@ducktales.med.ge.com (Larry Landwehr) writes:
> 
> A while back, Jerry Budd (budd@elxsi.dfrf.nasa.gov), wrote about his system:
>  
>  
> > Here's what I paid:
> >
> > Superior 10' mesh dish w/24" mount      $299
> > Gardiner 30 deg C-band LNB               $99
> > Gardiner 1.0 Ku-band LNB                $109
> > Chaparral Co-Rotor II+                  $109
> > VonWeise 24" HD Actuator                 $99
> > Drake 1524 Receiver w/VCII+ & VideoPal $1169
> > --------------------------------------------
> > Total                                  $1884
>  
>  
> I talked to my local dealer about this system. After calling around, he
> said that he could get it for me for around $2000. Then he proceeded to
> criticize every piece of equipment on the list. To make a long story
> short he proposed the following system:
>  
> Channel Master dish
> Drake 27 degree LNB
> Chapparel polarotar
> 24" heavy duty ball drive
> Echo (Star?) 710 receiver (with PAL?)
>  
> This would cost me around $2100.
>  
> Which system is better? Is his price too high? I've seen people here on
> the net praise the Drake 1524 which makes me a little suspicious.
>  
> I've already applied for a building permit using the Channel Master dish.
> How good is it?
>  
> Any advice would be appreciated.
> --


Two comments. 
1 You have not listed a Ku band LNB for the latest proposed system so that's
   a drawback.

2 I have always seen the C band LNBs described in 5 degree increments so this
  Drake 27 has me a little confused.

I'm sorry but I can't offer any other comments since I'm on my first sat system
and am not familiar with the equipment you called out except for the corotor 2
and the Drake 1524 IRD which I have.
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From: iisakkil@lesti.hut.fi (Mika R Iisakkila)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: antiope-txt from french tv5?
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:32:09 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology

juergenb@ecs.comm.mot.com (Juergen Bartels) writes:
>Unfortunately some smart TV's like mine think, if
>you switched to SECAM then there's no teletext and
>disable the decoder. I have to switch to PAL to
>read the pages!

Your TV set probably has the internal SECAM to PAL transcoder before
the teletext decoder. Although the trancoding is relatively simple to
implement, it seems to garble the teletext data. I've tried this on
our local cable station. We use PAL in Finland, while the Estonian TV
broadcasts in SECAM. Teletext transmissions from ETV can be received
without problem, if the transcoder is switched to bypass. If the
transcoder is operating, little or no teletext data remains decodable.

--Mika
From: wejones@CRDEC7.APGEA.ARMY.MIL (Bill Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: teletext decoder
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:36:54 GMT
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   I just bought one of those teletext decoders from one of the shop at
home places and tried it out last night.  I already had one of the
Dick Smith decoders (that I bought from someone in the group).  The
D. Smith decoder worked OK, but was difficult to adjust properly, and it
was not easy to read things on the screen.  This new decoder is a board
for the PC.  It works great, and you can save info to disk.  Looks like it
will be lots of fun.  Two questions though, to anyone else who has
one:
   1  Has anyone found teletext anywhere besides G1-18 and F3-22 ?  The
      Hidden Signals book indicated that there might be some on the
      Canadian sats, but I didn't see anything.

   2  Has anyone tried altering the software or writing their own software
      to allow capturing the whole sequence of screens at once rather than
      saving only one screen at a time to disk?  Seems like it would be
      more efficient to save the whole pass and then look for info in the
      datafile rather than waiting for 10-20 seconds for each update.
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From: jvz@cci632.cci.com (John V. Zambito)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: proud father
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:38:20 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY

I'm the proud father of a healthy new (to me) satellite system.
I bought one used this weekend and put it up Sunday 
and Monday. ( I did have to let the concrete set a day. )

It consists of a HTS Tracker VIII+, VCII+, Videopal, Echostar 
10' Unimesh dish with a quad feed mount, 40 deg Echostar LNB, 
and a 18" Saginaw positioner. All for $1250 plus $225 for the 
cable, $50 for the pole and $35 for the concrete. For a total 
of $1560. Life is good. The guy I bought it from had several 
calls on it but nobody but me was really interested. I'm 
happy with what I paid. 

I took off the positioner then a friend and I took off the top half
of the dish. Then we took the mount and bottom half of the dish off 
of the pole, then took the mount off of the bottom of the dish.
We threw it all in the pickup truck and we were out of there.

As I set up the Satellite positions I wrote down the count and 
strength for each sat. I've listed that all here.

sat	count	strength

S2	1012	57
F2	1019	57
G2	1025	63
F4	1046	61
T2	1054	63
S3	1060	64
G3	1080	61
T1	1087	60
G6	1097	66
A1	1125	60
A2	1138	68
M1	not found
M2	not found
S1	not found YET
W5	1178	56
T3	1190	60
F3	1212	65
G1	1220	64
F1	not found
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:00:57 MESZ
From:         "Wolfgang R. Schulz" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Subject:      ASTRA tr # 29

I do see a MAC signal on ASTRA, transponder 29 since today. As I don't
have a decoder (yet), could anybody please tell me what program is on
there? It used to be a Betzdorf testpattern until yesterday.

Transponder # 22 has colorbars and 1 kHz tone on all audio channels
for a long time now. Any idea what's going to happen there?

The only real blank channel on 1A and 1B seems to be # 32 now. I never
saw a signal on that transponder.

Wolfgang

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From: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Cable type ...
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:49:15 GMT
Reply-To: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

hoisve@XANADU.CC.UTAH.EDU (David Hoisve) writes:
>What type of cable should I use between the LNB and my receiver?
>
>The run is roughly 50'.  I've seen other systems that use RG 6, and even RG 
>59, but I am concerned about the loss at the high frequencies, and the "
>slope" (or the even higher loss at the upper end of the downconverted 
>frequency range).
>
>Is it really worth the extra money to install RG 11?  One other 
>consideration -- my system has a 6 foot dish, and I'll probably need all the 
>gain I can get...  :-)

From Pasternack Enterprises catalog ((714)-261-1920) that arrived today...

			Attenuation/100ft
	Type	Imp.	1GHz	5Ghz		Cost

	RG6A/U	75 Ohm	11db	30db		~$0.60/ft
	RG11A/U	75 Ohm	 9db	28db		~$0.84/ft
	RG59B/U 75 Ohm	11.5db	41db		~$0.17/ft

	RG62A/U	93 Ohm	 8.5db	29.5db		~$0.18/ft  (for amusement)
	RG210/U	93 Ohm	 3.1db	 9db		~$3.25/ft  (for amusement)
	RG218/U	50 Ohm	 3.8db	13.5db		~$4.19/ft  (for amusement)
	RG178B/U 50 Ohm	45db!	115db!		~$0.41/ft  (for amusement)

	RG11 appears to be the best 75 Ohm cable.  Only a few quite expensive
50 and 93 Ohm beat it (though for 5Ghz they beat it by a LOT).  BTW, the
50->75 Ohm adapters listed are 5.7db attenuation.  No 93->75.

-- 
"Thus spake the Master Ninjei: If your application does not run correctly,
do not blame the operating system." - The Zen of Programming
-
Randell Jesup, Jack-of-quite-a-few-trades, Commodore Engineering.
{uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!jesup, jesup@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com  BIX: rjesup  
Disclaimer: Nothing I say is anything other than my personal opinion.
From: jhansen@convex.com (James Hansen)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Info on Galaxy 5
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:26:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr10.162636.9008
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

Reprinted from Satellite TV Week without permission ...

The two degree move of Telstar 303 to 123 degrees west is set to begin
Sunday, April 26 and last two weeks.  By the time T3 gets relocated,
Westar 5 at 122.5 degrees will be shut off and new bird Galaxy 5 at
125 degrees will be ready for service.  However, most G5 programmers
will not start service until June 1 at the earliest.

G5 is in a temporary testing location at 135 degrees west.

The 24 16-watt transponders on G5 will carry HBO East, HBO West, Cinemax
West, CNN/Headline News, A&E, TNT, TBS, USA East, Disney East, BET, and
Monitor, and others.  Most services moving to G5 from G1 and other satellites
will dual feed during June and July, then begin full-time G5 service around
August 1.  HBO East and West and Cinemax West will become operational on 
G5 on June 1.  HBO and Cinemax East feeds on G1 will cease on June 30.
-- 
James B. Hansen                                  {sun,uunet}!convex!jhansen
CONVEX Computer Corporation                              jhansen@convex.com
3000 Waterview Parkway, P. O. Box 833851
Richardson, TX 75083-3851                              Phone: (214)497-4802
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: jhansen@convex.com (James Hansen)
Subject: Re: VCII+ Subscription Problems
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 17:13:14 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Apr5.041105.15036@edsr.eds.com> cheeks@tantalum.eds.com (Mark Costlow) writes:

>	One minute, everything if fine, the next minute ALL of my pay
>	channels become unavailable.  The message I get from the IRD on
>	*any* VCII+ channel is "Authorization not available".  Note
>	that this is on any VCII+ channel, whether I'm paying for that
>	service or not, and the message is *not* the same as the "No
>	Subscription" message one normally gets when you turn to a
>	transponder you aren't subscribed to.

I have HBO Satellite Service.  They recommend leaving the IRD on at all times
during the first week of the month and tuned to a subscription channel
overnight.  This way, your IRD is sure to pick up the re-authorization code
that is sent up every month.

--
James B. Hansen                                  {sun,uunet}!convex!jhansen
CONVEX Computer Corporation                              jhansen@convex.com
3000 Waterview Parkway, P. O. Box 833851
Richardson, TX 75083-3851                              Phone: (214)497-4802
From: jcy@eng.ufl.edu (Jim Yousse)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Studs
Date: 11 Apr 92 00:00:31 GMT
Organization: Digital Design

Can someone please let me know when and where the feed for the
show "STUDS" is?  Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 11:02:27 PDT
From:         "Vijay Vaidyanathan" <zycad!yoda!vijay@SUN.COM>
Subject:      Spl Nightline from Stanford tonite
X-To:         HOMESAT@VM1.NoDak.EDU

Does anyone care to make a guess as to which are the "ripe" places
to look for a feed from the Nightline special which is to be
broadcast from Stanford Univ. this eve. It has been a while since
I have seen Nightline in the clear at all, they are a lot more
consistent about scrambling feeds that CBS is. On the other hand,
perhaps I am looking in the wrong places (usually just T1). I have
recently got Ku as well, but I dont see much ABC on Ku ...

- VV
-----
From: zardoz@rx-db (zardoz@rx-db.hf.intel.com)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Dish Fence (was noise)
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:31:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: intelhf.1992Apr13.173112.19668
Organization: Intel Development Tools Operation, Hillsboro, OR

In article <1992Apr10.172820.5065@cci632.cci.com> jvz@cci632.cci.com (John V. Zambito) writes:
>
>Dr. Dish:
>     Where can I order an extra one or two feet of antenna to
>increase my diameter from 10-foot to 12-foot? 
>
Dr. Dish says:
>     It is impractical to try to add an extension onto an existing
>dish.  
etc. deleted.

Why can't a 'fence' be added to the perimeter of the dish?  This would
allow the feedhorn to be adjusted for a wider illumination without spilling
over the dish edge and capturing the background radiation from the earth.
What is a fence?  The military and commericial microwave services use them
all the time.  Here goes:


             |             |                     
             |             |
             -             -
              -           -
                -       -
                   ---

Well, pretty crude but you get the idea.  Its a metal or screen shield
maybe 1 foot high that surrounds the edge of the dish and is mounted in a
plane parallel with a line from dish center to feedhorn.  This shields the
feedhorn illumination from the background radiation which I read somewhere
is 30db above an average C band signal.  Most of the dishes' area is in
the outer edge, yet feedhorns are usually adjusted to minimize this area
to avoid spillage over the edge.  This area can be utilized by installing
a fence and adjusting the feedhorn for a wider illumination.  A Chapparel
type feed horn would probably need the throat pulled in to be nearly
flat with the 1/4 wave concentric rings, but I'm guessing.
Any comments?  Theory or exact figures?

WA7LDV

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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 13:30:00 EDT
From:         "MICHAEL KRAMER,
              TSU TELECONF. CTR. (410) 830-2591" <E7L8KRA@TOWSONVX.BITNET>
Subject:      Japan backhaul info requested

Hello again, everyone.  Can anyone tell me where I can find a Tokyo to New York
feed?  The only source of information I have is from WESTSAT which lists Satcom
F2R, Tr 22 as a source but there has been no signals lately (this is a backhaul
circuit).  Any help would be appreciated (I have an instructor who is looking
for Japanese programming).

Michael Kramer
Towson State University Teleconference/Satellite Coordinator
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:53:58 EDT
From:         Gary Bourgois <lopez!flash@SHARKEY.CC.UMICH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Intelsat K (was Re: Deutsche Welle TV)
X-To:         HOMESAT@VM1.NoDak.EDU

>>This is wonderful news, and if it ends up on a domestic relay, I will
>>certainly be watching.  If it is anythint like the shortwave DW, it will be a
>>good friendly station.
>>

>It may not need a domestic relay. Intelsat K is scheduled for launch in May and
>it's North American beam is supposed to deliver >48dBW over the eastern half of
>the US. There are a couple of European braodcasters considering using it to
>carry direct-to-home services for the US (RAI have announced plans).

Well I wonder if it will get into the VERY FAR NORTH of the midwest....  I
have had no luck whatsoever with international birds so far.

>Intelsat K is built out of the spare parts that would have become Satcom K-4 if
>'Crimson Satellite' ever happened. K-3 was sold to SES to become one of the
>Astra birds. I don't know if Intelsat K will use linear or circular
>polarization (I'd guess linear). It will have 16 54MHz transponders, each
>running 60W TWTAs.

I assume this will also be KU only?

I am going to try KU on my paraclipse this summer.

--
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From: hughes@gary.enet.dec.com (Gary Hughes - VMS Development)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Which IRD?  Help me decide.
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:08:15 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Apr8.171712.1152@pictel.com>, wpns@pictel.com (Willie Smith) writes...
>Doesn't the Zenith IRD have a GI descrambler in it?

Yup, all IRDs have a GI descrambler, or one built under license to GI.

GI have an unregulated monopoly on the Videocipher scrambling system that is
used to encode cable and direct to home satellite signals. Some people do not
like the way GI have manipulated the market and refuse to buy their products,
or at least their IRDs, as a result.

gary
From: chen@digital.sps.mot.com (Jinfu Chen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: New Panasonic "Super Flat" 31 inch TV
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:06:27 GMT
Organization: Motorola, LICD, SPS, Mesa, AZ

In article <5909934@MVB.SAIC.COM> Mark.Berryman@Mvb.Saic.Com (MUMPS Wizard) writes:
>I recently had a chance to do a side-by-side comparison of the new Panasonic
>"Super flat" 31" TV, a Sony 32XBR51, and a Mitsubishi model whose model number
>escapes me at the moment.  The price on the Panasonic and Sony was $1799, the
>Mitsubishi was a little less.

>wisdom of the net.  Does anyone have any technical opinions they'd be willing
>to share on this product?  I'm looking to upgrade an existing 26" system.

Don't forget the Proton 335 (or the older model 331 that dealers may sell for
the same price as 335).  Last time I compared a 331 with a JVC model side by
side and the result is unbelievable.  331 used to sell for list price $2,199
and the new 335 list price is $1,799.  So far the flattest screens I've seen
is the Proton, although I haven't seen the new Panasonic (Prism?) yet.

Anyone knows where one can buy Proton cheap (via mail-order) ?
From: gerardka@hobbes.ism.isc.COM (Gerard Kam)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Renting LDs in Orange Co.
Date: 14 Apr 92 02:15:41 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: SunSoft Inc., Los Angeles, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.west.sun.com

In article <1992Apr7.184904.10805@arcturus.uucp> mizera@arcturus.uucp (Ellen Mizera) writes:
>Hi! I'm looking for places in Orange county (S.Calif) that rent 
>laser discs - the only one I know of is Laser City.
>
>I'm trying to find "Space:1999" episodes on LD for rent... Anyone 
>seen them?

	I know of three rental outlets in Fountain Valley:
	  Laser Vision Warehouse, Brookhurst & Talbert
	  Disc Club, 18225 Brookhurst
	  01 Laser & Video, 8780 Warner Ave, just west of the 405
		714-848-4034

	01 L&V has the biggest rental section of the three, but has
	the least floor space!  I don't know about "Space:1999",
	but they do have some "UFO" disks.  They do not have a printed
	list of rental titles, but if you give them a call they
	should be able to look it up on their computer.

	Good luck
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 14:01:18 CDT
From: Tom Ascher <U15310@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: * Mac ----> Pioneer 3090?
Distribution: usa

Mute point.  You can't use the Pioneer consumer series (after the 3070)
with the black box.  Pioneer crippled the consumer units to preserve their
industrial sales... :)
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge)
Subject: Re: Surround Sound on TV Broadcasts
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 03:39:21 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.192915.16009@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov>, rdominy@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert Dominy) writes:
> 
> Are you sure Star Trek NG is surround sound encoded?  I've never seen any
> evidence of it.

Yes, it is Dolby encoded -- at least I assume that's what the "Dolby Surround"
logo at the end of the credits means.


BTW: if you're watching it on WBFF 45 then you won't get the surround because
they're mono. Try it on WDCA 20.

                                            -Dave Dodge/dododge@wam.umd.edu
From: PA113718@utkvm1.utk.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Camcording in Europe
Date: 8 Apr 92 07:20:31 GMT
Organization: The University of Tennessee, Knoxville

I have read that certain museums and churches in Europe
do not permit flash photos to be taken (e.g., the Sistine
Chapel), but does anyone here know whether palm-size
video cameras (without lights) are permitted in most such
locations?

If not, what generally is the policy?  That is, do they
confiscate your camera and hold it until you leave the
premises, or do they trust you to keep it without taking
pictures?  I would feel a bit uneasy handing over my new
camcorder to a stranger for safekeeping.

Also, we plan to stay in either a pensione or small
albergo in Rome and Florence, and similar inns at Paris,
London, and Dublin.  One friend of ours has
recommended leaving our passports in the room rather
than risk having them stolen while on our persons.
Generally, do you think it would be safe to leave the
camcorder or other valuables in our room when we aren't
going to use them (say, when dining out)?  Reports of
rampant theft in Italy have me a bit skittish, as you can
tell.

(I apologize if duplicate versions of this message have appeared;  our net news
mailer has been on the blink, and I had to resend it twice.)

Thanks in advance . . .

           Tom Garritano
           pa113718@utkvm1.utk.edu
From: young@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (young.u.huh)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: 8mm Video Player/Recorder
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:46:01 GMT
Organization: AT&T

From article <1992Apr10.164431.223@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov>, by rjlang@mirage.lerc.nasa.gov (Ray Lang):
> After just purchasing an 8mm video Camcorder, I would like to buy a
> player/recorder so I wouldn't have to hook it to the TV/VCR when
> playing the tapes. Also, I could record to 8mm off of the TV. 
> I would be looking for stereo and non-Hi8. I certainly don't see very
> many of these on the market. I have only seen one made by Sony. Is 
> there anyone out there who's shopped, and/or, bought one? I am 
> interested in pricing information and sources for them. Thanks in 
> advance.

Look at the Sony EVS550.  It has PCM and AFM Stereo.  I've had it
for about a year and am quite pleased with it.  It can also do
edits with the camcorder via Control-L interface.

Young Huh
yhuh@ihlpe.att.com
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