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From: oester@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Bob Oesterlin)
Subject: More C3/C4 musings
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 13:19:38 GMT
Reply-To: oester@vnet.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester Mn

F1/9 now seems to have been converted into an "imformation scroll" on C3 and C4
status. Right now it lists the C4 services and it says it will also post info
on C3. Any idea who's behind this?

Also, C4/24 and C4/15  have audio on 6.8. It sounds like a TV station from
somewhere but I've not heard the call letters yet (other than channel 9). Has
anyone identified it?


Bob
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Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: gsanders@eng.auburn.edu (George S. Sanders)
Subject: Re:      Re: German TV
Reply-To: gsanders@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 19:18:01 GMT


>(Gary Bourgois) writes:
>>Their RADIO services are also on subcarriers, though not the ones listed on
>>the screen.  One at 7.00 and the other ar 7.2 or so.  Interestingly there is
>>no ATIS at 7.1, which indicates it is being uplinked OTHER than from the USA.
>>OR the uplinker is breaking a fairly serious FCC rule.

>What is this ATIS? Is there always one at 7.1 MHz?

.As explained earlier, ATIS is Automatic Transmitter Identification System, it
.is a morse code signal at 20 words per minute, giving FCC callsign and the
.telephone number of the uplink.

A point of interest.  ATIS seems to be pretty lame (at least in terms of preventing
a Captain Midnight incident).  The tech at the local uplink station showed me that
it was deactivated by pulling the module from the rack.  His explanation is that
it is really only useful to track down accidental interference.

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From: huopio@lut.fi (Kauto Huopio)
Subject: Re: Buying Uplink Time
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:58:03 GMT
Disclaimer: Opinions expressed below are writers own.
Peruutus: Mielipiteet ovat omiani.
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland

In article <9211060204.AA10098@lopez.marquette.MI.US> Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US> writes:

> There is such a WIDE variety of pricing out there in video time it is
> amazing.  Right now you could probably get a good deal on time from the folks
> that we at LTRN get our transponder time from, there is video time available
> in the afternoon.  It is C band though.  I don't have KU as of yet, so don't
> have a good handle on that band.  I will say that you should SHOP around.

Now, can you give some kind of an estimate of..say 30 minutes of
daytime uplink time? How about 3 o'clock in the morning?

--Kauto
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From: ent3c@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Eric  Turkheimer)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Advice on IRD replacement
Date: 11 Nov 92 03:07:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: murdoch.1992Nov11.030730.22285
Organization: University of Virginia

My neighbor is looking to modernize the ancient hand-cranked dish
which was installed in his house when he bought it.  A local dealer is
quoting him a price of $500 for the decoder module, $500 for the
receiver, $160 for the amplifier aand $150 for the dish motor.  Please
pardon the inexact terms, I'm getting this second hand.  My impression
after reading this newsgroup for a couple of days is that these prices
are kind of high, at least for the low-end equipment that I suspect is
involved here.  Any impressions?  And while I'm on the subject, could
anyone provide the phone numbers of a couple of reputaable mail-order
places?  Just out of curiosity, why don't these outfits advertise in
the Satellite TV weeklies?

Thanks in advance.
Eric Turkheimer
ent3c@virginia.edu
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:23:18 -0500
From:         "MICHAEL KRAMER, TSUTC, (410) 830-2591" <E7L8KRA@TOWSONVX.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Barney

Thanks Michael Kelsen.  I haven't gotten any responses until yours.
I appreciate the info (my son will too!)  Tried to send you something direct
but it bounced!

Michael Kramer
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Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: bengt@fires1.uucp (Bengt A. Palsson)
Subject: Toshiba 2200 IRD quirks
Organization: Svenska Popfabriken AB, USA div.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:29:41 GMT

Just got off the phone with Toshiba technical support regaring some
questions about the programmability of new satellite names and channel
names in the favorite menu on the Toshiba 2200 IRD.

It turns out that you can program a new satellite name to display the
correct two letter combination on the front panel. For example the new
C4 satellite will show up as C4 on the panel if you push C4 on the remote
when prompted for a satellite name. But in this case the IRD seem to think
that the long name for C4 is ASC 4, not Satcom C4. However this seem to
work fine for finding the satellite and all the currently active transponders
on it. Nomenclature strikes again !

The pre-assigned names for channels are frozen in PROM. There has been no new
revision of that (those) PROMs and there only will be a new PROM available
through your local dealer if "there is a significant change", whatever that
means. So the channels that have moved to a different satellite since the
PROM was created, will not show up with an abbreviated channel name on
the "favorite" menu, like AMC and BRAVO on C4 among others.

Toshiba satellite products technical support can be reached at:
(708) 541-9400, x316 or x370

They also said that if enough people call about issues like these, there
will most likely "be a change". Personally I interpret that as meaning that
a new feature will be present in a future model of their sat IRDs, and not
available as PROM updates.
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From: lee@pranny.uucp (Lee Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Primestar...for those interested.....
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:06:25 GMT
Organization: Pranny International, Incorporated.

> >              tired of Primestar, all you have to do is to add your own
> >              receiver and do a little dish aiming. This was one of my 
> >              major considerations in deciding to use this system for
> >              a while. Another selling point for me was that I could
> >              get Info*Xpress again (I used to have it via cable).
> 
> Aha.  I now have something to go by regarding Primestar!  A few questions
> come to mind that would be helpful to me (and may be helpful to other
> readers).
> 
> 1) Can one contact Primestar and have JUST the receiver/decoder sent out
> (with the subscription intact)?  I live in California and already have a
> Ku band setup so there's no need for the installation.
> 
> 2) Does Primestar have reasonable PBS selection?  I remember it does carry
> Fox and independent stations, but not ABC,NBC,CBS, probably due to all
> that "blackout" stuff.
> 
> 3) Do the audio services include stereo music (such as found on big city
> radio stations)?
> 
> 4) Could one buy the IRD and have a lower monthly rate?  (I believe the
> rate is $30 or so.)
> 
1 - No, unfortunately they won't do a IRD only deal - I don't know why
    but that's their policy.

2 - It carries WHYY during the daytime instead of a couple of the 
    independents. That's the only PBS video, tho'.

3 - Yes, Classic, New Age, "Light amd Lively" Rock, C&W, Classic Hits 
    (Pop Oldies).

4 - No, they won't part with the whold shebang, no way.  For one who
    didn't already have Ku, and has a particular interest in 
    the data it carries, it's a deal.  Others may decide otherwise.

                              Lee
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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 1992 01:41:54 EST
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: satellite listing

>Anyone know how to get hold of a current satellite listing? I saw one back in
>May...


Watch this space in the next few hours.  ROBERT SMATHERS South Scanner Chart
is on the way this weekend.

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From: bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
Subject: Re: How is the Star Trek feed quality at your location?
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 07:15:18 GMT

flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US (Gary Bourgois) writes:
>The Saturday night feed of Star Trek was better than it has been in MONTHS,
>*AND* the frequencies of the audio subcarriers were right dead on.  Perhaps
>they have changed uplink transmitters, and fully saturated the transponder.

Oh, don't worry, they usually oversaturate the transponders
as a routine. Such a shame, but the network mentality allows
for about 1200 per-cent margin on most things.

A likely reason for the 'sparklies' is that they are
overdriving their video exciters. Try jamming >100%
video in and the picture goes to hell rather quickly.

p.s. to Gary Burgois, your SHIFT key is sticking intermittently;
please check.

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From: jim@neb (Jim Hood)
Subject: Re: How is Star Trek feed quality....
Organization: Nebula - Public Access Unix/bbs SLC Ut, USA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:00:50 GMT

>I believe this subject has been discussed before, but I'm still having
>trouble.  The Saturday Star Trek feed at 3pm Pacific time has looked awful
>the last few weeks.  Lots of noise, sparklies and the like.  I compared
>notes with a friend about 40 miles away and he sees the same thing.
>
>I vaguely remember someone on the net mentioning something about adjacent
>channel interference.  Since T1-09 is surrounded by ABC feeds and others
>does this somehow affect the Star Trek feed quality?  This phenomonon seems
>to vary, sometimes the feed is fine, other times not.  T1-09 is not the 

Whoever told you that was absolutly correct.  The satellite just to the
west of T1 (G6??  I forget) seems quite strong.  It's polarity is opposite
of T1.  Lately they have been transmitting on transponder 9 (which is at
opposite polarity of T1).  I fine tuned my polarity on T1, and my signal
(startrek) cleared up a it.  It is still not as good as it was last year
but it is better.  Just as a test, you can go to T1-09 and then reverse
your polarity, and I would bet that the interfearing signal will 
be more apparent to you.

-jim
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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: ITN news update
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:20:58 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


Gary Torrens (Dallas, TX) sent me a note and gave me permission
to pass it along -- I feel it is important for some readers to know.

Gary writes:

       Look for the ITN news that LVTN had, now on Spacnet 4/10 at 4.30p
I saw a promo Sunday and it will be available to PBS stations           

-=-=-=

Robert

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From: mann@csd.uwo.ca (Robert Mann)
Subject: Re: Wizard Codes and G.I.'s Ethics
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 09:21:38 GMT

In article <199211062339.AA25613@sunset.cse.nau.edu> Bob Wier <rrw@SUNSET.CSE.NAU.EDU> writes:
>On Nov 6, 11:12pm, Robert Mann wrote:
>}
>} Also, one might want to comment on the ethics of a company that has sold
>} (hundreds of?) thousands of descrambler boards to markets (Canada/Mexico)
> where
>} they knew there was no legal use for them since the programming was not
>} offered in Canada/Mexico/etc.
>}
>             ^^^^^^
>
>Actually, I said the same thing myself once, but was corrected by someone
>saying that there is, like, ONE channel available in Canada which can
>be legally subscribed to using the VCII.
>
G.I. was selling them long before First Choice was VCII scrambled.  In fact,
First Choice (sort of a Canadian HBO) took a bath on this.  They were selling
quasi-legal boards that received U.S. channels (this wasn't illegal then)
but required a subscription to get First Choice.  This didn't work to well
as G.I.'s countermeasures would knock out these boards and the subscribers
then couldn't get F.C. which they were paying for.

Actually, there are several channels available in Canada NOW.  The problem
here is still the old chicken and egg problem.  People here don't want to
buy legal boards since many U.S. channels aren't available here yet AND
few companies are offering channels since the market of legal subscribers
is still small.

A friend of mine just bought a dish and some interesting things came up.
There are reportedly 400,000 VCIIs in Canada, 20,000 of which are legal.
Yep, a whopping 5%!!!  Most of these were actually legal when purchased.
The other interesting thing is that dealers are now offering grey-market
programming -- using a U.S. address to let Canadian subscribers get
channels only available in the U.S.  their hope is that enough people
in Canada will decide to go legal since the programming that they want
(HBO, etc) will be available to them.  More legal boards will encourage
more channels to be offered here.  Interesting situation to say the least!


Rob M.

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From: klimasewski@fccvde.enet.dec.com (My name is...)
Subject: Tuning below 3.7GHz
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 12 NOV 92 09:49:46    

Are there any mods/tricks to force a satellite receiver to tune below
3.7GHz? The Russian bird has video in the 3.6GHz range that might be
interesting.-Message-Text-Follows-

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From: lrk@k5qwb.lonestar.org (Mr. Lyn R. Kennedy)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Radio & TV in Czechoslovakia (my impressions during my vacation)
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:46:50 GMT
Organization: Radio Amateur k5qwb

juergenb@ecs.comm.mot.com (Juergen Bartels) writes:

> In September I again spend 4 weeks vacation in Czechoslovakia (CSFR).
> 
> Media-wise it has changed dramatically as well. Last year when out of reach
> of the western countries or the major Czeck cities it was impossible to
> listen to pop music. That was the reason I tuned the bands more often last
> year then this year. Now in the Czeck part there are a number of privat
> stations. Some of them sound very professional. A number of them carry
> BBS-WS or VOA at nights (in English). This time I haven't been in Prague,
> however I could receive their stations. I was surprised to find RTL-Prague
> on 93.7 MHz. At nights they broadcast in English with many local
> announcements. All programs are produced locally. In Slovakia ROCK-FM has

Just in case you missed it.... Prague is full of young Americans ( and 
probably other nationalities ) like Paris many years ago. Strangely, 
there are more involved in radio, TV, and newspapers than in art but 
it's apparently had a major influence on the region. Anyway, it 
accounts for the large amount of English used. Of course, the rock 
music should contain a lot of English like in Europe.

One other observation: I noticed while in Europe that there is a 
special form of the language that I call 'rock-music English'. It's
slightly different from the way songs are done in the U.S. and may 
account for the small number of groups popular in both America and
Europe.


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From: erik@vcd.hp.com (Erik Kilk)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: S-VHS connections
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:56:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: vcd.BxKnME.2MI
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
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An S-video connector on your IRD isn't important.  With a side-by-side
comparison, you really can't tell any difference.  I was originally concerned 
about this as I too have an S-VHS recorder and S-video TV.  After understanding
why and seeing the difference, the S-VHS connector became insignificant in my
IRD choice.  I bought the Drake 1524 without S-video.

The importance of S-video when recording and playing back to/from tape is 
extremeley significant though.  I can't stand watching non-S-VHS (or non-HI-8)
recordings anymore.  So for recordings I would highly recommend S-VHS or HI-8.

Erik
From: flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US (Gary Bourgois)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: How is the Star Trek feed quality at your location?
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:43:11 GMT
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>I found the Sunday feed to be slightly better than the Saturday one.


This is due to DRIFT as mentioned before.  T1 is out of station keeping fuel,
no course corrections have been made in several months.  The satellite is now
in inclined orbit

>However, there is still noticable audio noise. I have never been pleased
>with the picture, but my 6 foot dish may have something to do with it:-)


Again, as I mentioned, TRY RETUNING the 6.8 audio to 6.72, the noise will
vanish.


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From: gilmore@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Kevin Gilmore)
Subject: New System, questions
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:02:27 GMT

I've been reading this newsgroup for about 8 weeks, I have been massively
pissed off at TCI cable, so i broke down and bought a system.
Monterey 95
Orbitron SX10
25 and .7 cal amp LNB's
corotor2+
vonweiss actuator

Its been up only a couple of days, I love it. Put it in myself with
totally no help from anyone. So now I have a couple of questions...

1) last night a friend came over and wanted to watch the hawks home game.
We could not find the uplink feed, and it might have been scrambled anyway
(does anyone know). Called Netlink and the lady said that she had to
move my zipcode to alaska otherwise i would have been blanked out. Seconds
later wala hawks game. Does anyone know how this part of vc2rs stuff works,
and a related thought, will old modified vc2's still get video, but no
audio, which would certainly be acceptable in this case.

2) The pbs channels are currently set for mono, Now I know that WTTW 11
in chicago broadcasts in stereo, so they must be getting the stereo feeds
somehow. What are left and right freqs for pbs a,b,c,d??

3) If I use the actuator A LOT, how long will it last.

4) Whats the best way to dress the cable from the dish when you have
a quad feed. Currently I am holding it on the underside of the dish
with a modeling clamp.

By the way, I got the stuff from Mike Bird of DBS. Very friendly
very courteous, all the stuff arrived on time, and he was the cheapest
(by about 200.00) of all the ones i called. Could not have got better
service.

And the people at Netlink are also great...

	gilmore at stella.chem.nwu.edu      or
	gilmore at gold.chem.nwu.edu	    or
	gilmore at casbah.acns.nwu.edu
From: hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Super-Newbie questions
Date: 12 Nov 92 08:22:15 GMT
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
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Greetings!

I've been watching for a FAQ, but didn't see one, so here goes...

I'm in the process of buying an ancient dish & setup from a neighbor.  It's
about 8 feet, fibreglass, and there are 3 or 4 different boxes for positioning,
tuning, etc. etc. etc.  (I only have the dish so far, haven't seen the boxes).
He wants $500.00 for the whole setup (including the trailor the dish is on), 
does this seem like a reasonable price?    

I assume that if I want to get Comedy Central (for MST3K) I have to get a 
VC-II decoder.  This will replace the 3 or 4 boxes inside, no?  How much
does one cost, what do I look out for, can I make one myself, etc. etc. etc.

Also, is an 8 foot fibreglass dish more/less sensitive than I need?  Is there
a special kind of paint on it?  Should I have left the bird's nest IN the
feedhorn cover?

Thanks for any info, and if there is a FAQ, I'd like to get/see it.

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