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Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: Red wine allergy
From: jensen@unlinfo.unl.edu (michael jensen)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:50:51 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln

C.A.Blunsdon@lut.ac.uk (CA Blunsdon)  writes:

>Anyone know the basis of an allergy to red wine, and what
>other 'foods' might be implicated? Thanks in advance.

In my case, it seems to be an allergy to the sulfites that are in 
higher quantities in red wine than in white (this is experiential, 
rather than scientific, information). White wine also does it, but not
as fast: it feels like my brain is swelling like a dried-out sponge. 
Headache so bad I am nearly blinded. A logey feeling of stupidity and 
sloth, perhaps from the wicked pain. Red wine does it within half an 
hour, even with one glass; white takes a couple of glasses to bring it
on, but I get a reasonably irritating pain even with one glass of 
white. Sulfites are used to arrest the fermentation process in wine, 
I'm told.

I believe sulfites are also used in some salad bars (to keep the 
lettuce etc. "fresh"), and in some other processed foods as a 
preservative. I believe there are FDA regulations requiring "contains 
sulfites" on labels.

Needless to say, I no longer drink wine. This allergy developed, I 
might add, gradually; it reached its current zenith after a red-wine 
tasting party I attended. Before that, I could drink either with 
relative impunity, though I'd noticed during the preceding two years 
that red wine made my head ache.

Michael Jensen
jensen@unlinfo.unl.edu
standard disclaimers in effect
From: sudesh@utkal.njit.edu (T. J. Sudesh)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Is Vitamin C TOXIC ???
Keywords: Is Vitamin C TOXIC ???
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:31:43 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.


      Hi Gurus,
               I have been seeing a lot of postings regarding Vitamin C and its
      related effects on cancer & the immune system.I am really surprised to see
      so many people devour such high doses of the same.My questions are :

	1) Doesn't high doses of ascorbic acid cause the urine to become
           more acidic,thereby making the person prone to kidney stones ?
	   ( this may be the reason why UTI patients benefit from the same )

	2) whenever anyone in my family tries a dose in excess of 250mg, We
	   seem to experience some kind of ill-feeling (ie. joint pains,
	   body ache, head ache, Anorexia).Are there any logical solutions 
	   to these observations ?

	3) Vitamin C, an anti-Oxidant also has a mild anti-histaminic affect,
	   which is why patients who take it during a "flu/cold" attack
	   feel better.Is that right ?

	4) what would be the dosage recommended for a normal adult ?

		I am sure, by asking these questions, I represent millions
         of people "out there", who do not have access to the net.

					Thank you in advance......

						warm regards,
							    sudesh
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: rlewis@muskwa.ucs.ualberta.ca (Robert Lewis)
Subject: Re: Info. on coronary heart disease and alcohol....
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 05:49:45 GMT

cholette@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Cholette Martin) writes:

> A while back, I caught an episode of 60 minutes in which it was said that
> red wine, taken in moderation can significantly reduce the risk of coronary
> heart disease. This was the leading explanation as to why the French 
> ( the one's from France ) have very low rates of heart disease in spite of
> the fact that they eat large amounts of fat, cholesterol...etc..

> Now my question is the following, is this true of any alcoholic beverage ?
> Will 1 or 2 beers daily have the same effect? Whiskey ? White wine ?

I read (you know the usual source, somewhere, sometime ago, pp. ?) that
even moderate consumption of alcohol lowered blood testosterone levels
(and presumably therefore raised the relative level of estrogene).
Could this be the source of lowered rates of heart disease, i.e.,
alcohol makes men's and post-menopausal women's risk of heart disease
more like that of pre-menopausal women (i.e., low).  Puts a different
slant on some of those Budweiser commercials as well.


Robert M. Lewis
Department of Sociology
University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX)
Subject: Re: accuracy of nutritional labelling
Organization: Omen Technology INC, Portland Rain Forest
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1992 13:02:45 GMT

In article <5443@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> jsl+@pitt.edu (John S Lundberg) writes:
>It seems that more and more food is being sold with nutritional
>contents listed on the packaging.  Has anyone ever seen any
>Consumer Reports-type studies testing the accuracy of this
>information?  I have no real reason to be suspicious but just
>wonder if the labels are reliable indicators.


False advertising is, unfortunately, normal for the diet
industry.  The majority of diet food products tested for the New
York state Consumer Protection Board contained more calories
than listed on their package labels.  80 percent of the diet
food products tested exceeded claimed calories, some by as much
as 73 calories per serving.

Oscar Meyer Lean'N Tasty Breakfast strips are 80% fat.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX          ...!tektronix!reed!omen!caf 
Author of YMODEM, ZMODEM, Professional-YAM, ZCOMM, and DSZ
  Omen Technology Inc    "The High Reliability Software"
17505-V NW Sauvie IS RD   Portland OR 97231   503-621-3406
From: andreaf@bonnie.Rational.COM (Andrea Frankel)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: Symptoms of anemia.
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:11:39 GMT

ak104@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert Clark) writes:
>  A friend of mine is a vegetarian whose eats dairy products but
>no eggs. She's been a vegetarian for 10 years, but she says 
>she never did any reading on getting the right nutrition through
>a vegetarian diet. She just eats what she likes. 
>  I noticed that she seems to have very dry skin and hair.
>Could this be a symptom of vitamin B-12 anemia?

Don't know about the anemia, but dry skin and hair can be caused by a
vitamin A deficiency, insufficient vegetable oils (or nuts, seeds,
avocados, etc.) in the diet, or a hypothyroid condition.  Or, for that
matter, using overly harsh soaps and shampoos, spending too much time in
chlorinated pools or hottubs, too much sun without screens and
moisturizers...



Andrea Frankel (andreaf@rational.com) -- Rational, Grass Valley Office
"Wake now!  Discover that you are the song that the morning brings..."




Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: mazur@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Beth Mazur)
Subject: Re: hypoglycemia
Organization: Intermetrics Inc, Cambridge MA
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:32:38 GMT

In article <BuH50M.4GM@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> popetz@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Clinton C. Popetz) writes:
>I want to caution people who have been diagnosed as or think they may be
>hypoglycemic about two important words in that first line: "For some, ..."
>
>Fruit on an empty stomach cannot be tolerated by many hypoglycemics, and
>if you are trying to control your hypoglycemia and get back to a normal 
>level, you should cut out ALL sugars, including fructose, even if you
>can handle it, because it does produce an increase in insulin levels. 

It's funny you say this...although I know how few "real" hypoglycemics there
are, I've had some killer blood sugar "lows" after a breakfast of OJ and 
a muffin.  I've done this once or twice on a ski trip and have had to leave 
people at about 9:30 in the morning to get something into my system--I feel 
that light-headed.

Now I stick to Diet Coke in the morning and I have no problems :-).

Beth Mazur                   "...life is more than a vision.  The sweetest
mazur@inmet.inmet.com         part is acting after making a decision."
...!uunet!inmet!mazur                                  -- The Indigo Girls
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: osborn@socs.uts.edu.au (Tom Osborn)
Subject: Re: Vegetarianism & mental health
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date:  9 Sep 92 06:40:04 GMT

jensen@unlinfo.unl.edu (michael jensen) writes:

>I suggested that she eat turkey, and the like, to boost her 
>l-tryptophan intake (intimately entwined with seratonin production, an
>essential ingredient to sound sleep and dreams); she didn't, but got 
>some l-tryptophan supplements which were at the time readily 
>available. She slept better and better, and the day- and nightmares 
>disappeared. Her husband, the doctor, didn't like it much, but was 
>glad she was doing better. A year ater, after stopping, the symptoms 
>recurred, but she had been convinced that the l-tryptophan wasn't 
>really necessary.

>My query has to do with the above story--while I recognize that an 
>attentive vegan can get most amino acids through diet, and that the 
>BODY needs may be satisfied, does anyone know of studies addressing 
>the BRAIN's needs regarding amino acids; have mood disturbances and 
>similar effects been noticed in some vegan circles? ...

She can get the amino acid nicely by including Brazil nuts regularly in
her diet. [Unless she doesn't like them]. 


Tom Osborn,                                 " It is sorrow, not malice
School of Computing Sciences,                       which kills worlds ".
University of Technology, Sydney,      
PO Box 123 Broadway 2007,  AUSTRALIA.               Kate Braverman, 1985.
From: aep@icd.ab.com (Alexander E. Pensky)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: Tumeric and Ginger
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:51:54 GMT
Organization: Allen-Bradley Co., Highland Heights, OH

In article <mack.716227793@deci> mack@deci.cs.umn.edu (Dan Mack) writes:
> I remember reading  a year  or  so ago about a double blind study that
> showed that a little bit of fresh ginger was almost twice as effective
> as dramamine in preventing motion sickness.

I read this too, but it wasn't a little bit of ginger.  It was a huge bit.
So huge that the article speculated that some people might not be able to
force themselves to eat an effective dose.

I forget how large the dose was, but Steve Dyer already said he was going
to look up the reference, so I'll just go back to sleep now ... :-)

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 Alex Pensky    	(aep@icd.ab.com)		         (216)646-5211
 Allen-Bradley Company             747 Alpha Drive, Highland Heights, OH 44143
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From: stvjas@meteor.wisc.edu (Stephen Jascourt)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: Salt question
Date: 11 Sep 92 02:45:22 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison, Meteorology and Space Science

In article <BSIMON.92Sep10070953@elvis.stsci.edu> bsimon@elvis.stsci.edu (Bernie Simon) writes:
>Although opinion is still divided on the question of salt restriction,
>the best current evidence is that you do not need to restrict salt
>intake unless you have high blood pressure and are "salt sensitive"
>(eating salt has a significant effect on blood pressure).
>--
>Bernie Simon				This isn't science,
>(bsimon@stsci.edu)			this is sheer madness!

I was under the impression that having too much sodium changes one's
electrolyte balance, causing loss of calcium, magnesium, and potassium.
So there are good reasons why you may not want to add salt even if you
don't have a blood pressure problem. (If this is incorrect, please correct
me and provide me with a good readable source for someone who doesn't know
medical jargon but does know some chemistry.)

Stephen Jascourt   stvjas@meteor.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: jil@donuts0.uucp (Jamie Lubin)
Subject: Re; Vitamin C Usage
Reply-To: jil@donuts0.uucp (Jamie Lubin)
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway, NJ
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 17:45:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.160119.16139@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>In article <1992Sep15.141734.21202@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> jil@uts.uucp (Jamie Lubin) writes:
 
>Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) has no effect on histamine receptors.
>Any beneficial effect it has during a cold or flu can be attributed
>to a placebo effect.
 
The late nutritionist, Dr. Carlton Fredericks, once said that he should write
a book entitled "How To Generate A Spontaneous Remission."   It seemed that
so many people told him that when they helped themselves thru nutritional
means (after orthodox medicine had failed them), their doctor would say that
whatever they had probably got better by itself or that they were in
remission!!

Yesterday, someone posted an article about how they were helped by C's
anti-histamine effect...they probably then don't care if it's a placebo, but
are just happy to feel better :-)

>>Who recommended 2800 mg. for every person; I said "no one knows."  But maybe
>>you know, so why not tell us how much we need.  We're all waiting.
>
>There is no evidence that people need or can use much more than 250-500mg
>a day, and even that is on the high side.

I'm not a proponent of mega-vitamins because then some can have a drug-like
effect.  However, I have heard of many orthomolecular physicians having
positive results using several grams of C daily.
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: side effects of niacin
Date: 14 Sep 92 06:34:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Sep14.063440.3846
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Sep14.053756.6434@qualcomm.com> antonio@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Franklin Antonio) writes:
>I've seen claims that the effect diminishes with time.  When I told my
>doctor that I was uncomfortable with the effect, he recommended time-release
>niacin tablets, which seem to solve the problem.

High-dose timed-release niacin appears to be substantially more toxic to the
liver than immediate-release preparations.  That is to say, you get _higher_
number of individuals experiencing elevated liver enzymes and other toxic
side effects.


-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: dooley@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Kevin Dooley)
Subject: Re: Vegetarian diets and cancer [was vegetarianism & nutrition]
Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:55:49 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.191050.20860@news.iastate.edu> bible@iastate.edu (Anthony E Bible) writes:
>
>	I have heard that vitamin B12 is only available from meat and dairy
>products.  Does this imply that the B12 in vitamin pills comes from meat or
>dairy products, or is it manufactured from some low-level organic compounds?
>{BTW, in case someone is tempted to interpret this question as some sort of
>subtle flame, it is an "honest" question.]

No.  B12 vitamin pills are generally produced with bacterial sources.
Sorry, I don't know the type of bacteria.  Also used, apparantly, are
some types of yeast (brewer's yeast?) which are supposed to be rich in
B12.  It would pose a rather significant moral dilemma for ethical vegans
were it not so.  There have been attempts to chemically synthesize B12,
but, last I heard, these have not been successful (or at least they are 
successful only in producing chemically similar compounds which have no 
nutritional benefit).

Kevin
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: kpc@pluto.arc.nasa.gov (k p c)
Subject: Re: weight training and weight gain
Originator: kpc@kronos-arclan.arc.nasa.gov
Reply-To: kpc@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center AI Research Branch; Sterling.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 01:32:12 GMT

a quick note: if you eat raw eggs in america at least, beware
salmonella.  (i've heard, at least avoid eggs with cracks in them.)
some countries don't seem to have salmonella.  i don't know if you can
get eggs with a low likelihood of salmonella in america, but maybe you
can.
-- 
i'm open to comparing research career notes with other young cogsci people.
From: ulrike@gmd.de (Ulrike Bauer)
Subject: literature about eating disorders
Keywords: bulemia nervosa, anorexia nervosa
Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:40:07 GMT

In the following I have listed a few book titles concerning eating 
disorders. 

Hope this will help.

                       Ulrike


--
Hilde Bruch: 'The Golden Cage; The Enigma of Anorexia Nervosa'
	by Havard University Press, Cambridge/Mass.
	(She has written some other books about Eating Disorders)

Brownell, K.D. & Foreyt, J.P. (Eds.) 'Handbook of Eating Disorders'
	New York: Basic Books, 1986

Marilyn Lawrence: 'Fed up and hungry'
	The Women's Press Ltd., London 1987
	(good overview over bulemia nervosa and anorexia nervosa)

Marilyn Lawrence: 'The Anorexic Experience'
	The Women's Press Ltd., London 1984

Maja Langsdorff: 'Die heimlich Sucht, unheimlich zu essen' 
	Fischer Taschenbuch Verlag
	('The secret addiction of eating incredibly' or something like
	that, perhaps it is translated into English)
	(a book only about bulemia nervosa - an attempt to approximate
	to the phenomenon of bulemia and the bulemic personality,
	possibilities to therapy it (theoretical and practical
	aspects), aspects of self-helping when suffering from bulemia,
	bulemics talk about their situation)

Louise Roche: 'Glutton for Punishment' 1984 (the German title: 'Essen
	als Strafe')
	(self portrayal of a bulemic girl, written in an impressive
	way; one can feel the despair and it is encouraging at the end)

--
Ulrike Bauer	ulrike.bauer@gmd.de	(+49 2241) 14-2437
German National Research Center for Computer Science (GMD)          -- o
Research Group for Adaptive Systems - FIT.KI.AS                   _`\<, _
Schloss Birlinghoven, P.O. Box 1316, D-5205 St. Augustin 1, FRG	 (_)/  (_)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: paul@clodii.Columbia.NCR.COM (Paul Fidler)
Subject: Re: China Study
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 22:10:58 GMT

In article <yxzn=9b.strnlght@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
>
>Paul Fidler misses the point if he thinks to animal comments are
>in support of basing human diets on animal ones. 

>
>Putting it more directly, if milk is such a good food, how come
>cows don't drink it?

If it's such a bad food, why do they give it to their young?  And why
does it matter what cows do?  Could it be that you are extrapolating
cow's dietary habits to humans?  Could it be that I *didn't* miss the
point, that your logic is as follows: If cows don't drink milk, milk
must be a bad food, therefore humans shouldn't drink milk? What else
do cows not eat, that we might want to consider banning from our diets?


What, specifically, are the health problems associated with drinking
non-fat milk?
                                                                          



...................................... Paul Fidler .................
"Please consult your physician         NCR Corporation, Columbia, SC
 before exercising with Lee Haney"     paul@clodII.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: bch@juliet.caltech.edu (MR. MAPLE)
Subject: Re: hypoglycemia
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:27:00 GMT

In article <BuH50M.4GM@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, popetz@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Clinton C. Popetz) writes...
>rothmund@peanuts.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Baerbel Rothmund) writes:
>>blood sugar levels. For some, fruits may also be a good addition as
>>fructose~the natural sugar in most fruits~does not require insulin to be
>>absorbed into the body cells.
> 

NOT.  All sugars require insulin to be absorbed into the body cells.  What you 
say would mean that someone with insufficient insulin output could eat nothing
but fructose and be fine.  This is a recipie for ketoacidosis.

Bryan
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition,rec.food.veg
From: rabani@jeeves.ucsd.edu (Ely Rabani)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: Extra iron and amino acids - Good or bad?
Date: 16 Sep 92 02:31:43 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Sep15.215200.1633@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John F Nielsen) writes:
>Are you saying this manufactured protein is of higher quality than
>natural sources? If you really want quality protein just cook some
>egg whites or drink some skim milk. Egg whites contain just about
>the best protein you can find. On a scale of 1 to 100, egg whites are
>about 100, milk  93, beef is in the 70's(taken from Nutrition book
>used here at OSU).
>
>That would be much cheaper than buying those powders and most likely
>healthier?
>
>john

If I recall correctly, egg whites by themselves contain avidin, which is
an 'antivitamin' that tightly binds biotin.  There is abundant biotin in
the yolk in excess of avidin, so that when consumed together there's no
problem.  I don't recall whether or to what extent cooking inactivates
avidin.  

Trivia note:
Vitamin K deficiency was first observed in an excentric old fellow who
lived for years on exclusively vodka and raw egg whites.  I forget
whether the anti-vitamin K activity was in the vodka or the egg whites.
I may get around to checkin on this....

Ely.
From: csc@coast.ucsd.edu (Charles Coughran)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: does anyone know how to do this?
Date: 11 Sep 1992 19:17:10 GMT
Organization: Center for Coastal Studies, SIO
Reply-To: csc@coast.ucsd.edu.UCSD.EDU (Charles Coughran)
NNTP-Posting-Host: coast.ucsd.edu


In article <10SEP199214192046@juliet.caltech.edu> bch@juliet.caltech.edu (MR. MAPLE) writes:
>There is probably a better conference to post this, but....
>
>A few postings ago someone mentioned starting a new newsgroup for diabetes 
>support, perhaps alt.diabetes.support.  Does anyone out there know how we
>can go about doing this?
>
There are mailing lists which serve this function.


Send a msg to:
	listserv@irlearn.bitnet
with the body containing:
	sub diabetes Your Name

Send a msg to:
	listserv@pccvm.bitnet
with the body containing:
	sub diabetic Your Name

The DIABETES list is for researchers; DIABETIC is for patient concerns.


-- 
         Practice Random Kindness And Senseless Acts of Beauty.
ccoughran@ucsd.edu (Internet) ...!ucsd!ccoughran (UUCP) CCOUGHRA@UCSD (BITNET)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: paul@clodii.Columbia.NCR.COM (Paul Fidler)
Subject: Re: China Study
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 16:43:23 GMT

In article <scznmn-.strnlght@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
>
>calves. If adult cows don't drink cow's milk, why in the name of
>heaven should anyone think adult people should.
>

If adult cows *DID* drink cow's milk, why in the name of heaven
should anyone think adult people should?

I think the weakest pro-vegetarian argument I've ever seen is that human
diets should be based on certain animal's diets.....    





...................................... Paul Fidler .................
"Please consult your physician         NCR Corporation, Columbia, SC
 before exercising with Lee Haney"     paul@clodII.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition,rec.food.veg
From: molnar@Bisco.CAnet.CA (Tom Molnar)
Subject: Re: VEGETARIAN DIET
Organization: UTCS Campus Access
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:00:51 GMT

In article <43577@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk> rw@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Robert Walker) writes:
# 
# Hi,
# 
# Hoping I'm posting to the right groups!!
# 
# I'm a vegetarian and as such I am interested in what nutritional deficiencies
# are _most_ common, in this particular diet, from a _scientific_ standpoint.

You know, I think the question someone (perhaps not you) ought to be asking is: 

"what long term health-damaging effects are there with a non-vegetarian diet?"

Tom
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