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From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Subject: Re: BillBoards/Advertisement
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 19:50:54 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.

grb@rbyte.proteus.qc.ca (G. Randolph Bickerton) writes:

>"$100/m is typical"

>Suggest you check out you cost sources.  $100/m is very expensive; it is 
>also very expensive given that you cannot "quality" the readers except that 
>they are "warm living bodies with internet access with some level of 
>comupter literacy and they logged on the net".  This quality of reader is 
>less targeted than even the audience of your local newspaper!

My cost source is the average of the approximately 50 rate cards from
similar magazines to PE that I solicited before starting the magazine.
You should already know that CPM varies pretty significantly according
to industry.  

As to qualifying the readership, the readership of a Unix system
would already be fairly highly qualified as those with enough interest
in computers to have an account on a (still somewhat arcane) computer
system.  If the context is a  university, that even better qualifies
the reader in that s/he's in an institution of higher learning 
and is probably intellectually above average.  Dunno how you could
claim such an audience is less qualified than that for a local newsrag.

John
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From: jbrandt@NeoSoft.com (J Brandt)
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: The Republic of Tea
Date: 27 Dec 92 15:32:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: NeoSoft.BzxCI3.DHD
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900

I received the book _The Republic of Tea: How an Idea Becomes a Business_ 
by Mel Ziegler, Bill Rosenzweig and Patricia Ziegler (Published by 
Doubleday, list price $22.50) as a Christmas gift. Mel & Pat Ziegler were
founders of Banana Republic.  The book consists mostly of conversations
between Ziegler and Rosenzweig (by fax) in planning a business partnership
to sell tea.  It includes the business plan that they eventually came up
with, the evolution of package design, and the design for the entire
structure of their business.  
 
They talk a lot in the book about their goal of not just selling tea, but
of selling a slower lifestyle, of tea sipping rather than coffee gulping.
 
After finishing the book (according to the book, their business was
finally incorporated in January 1992 and the first product shipped in
May), I was so inspired and curious, I went to my local upscale yuppie
market to see whether The Republic of Tea had made it to the shelves, and
it had, with packaging essentially the same as presented in the book.
 
Anyway, for aspiring business-planners, it's worthwhile reading.

-- 
Jaclyn Brandt
jbrandt@NeoSoft.com
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From: Jarett.Weintraub%bbs@jptcs.com (Jarett Weintraub)
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: Free Trade is an ECONOMIC system only
Date: 28 Dec 92 07:49:59 GMT
Reply-To: Jarett.Weintraub%bbs@jptcs.com (Jarett Weintraub)
X-Posting-Software: UniBoard 1.10a S/N 202921

Joshua Putnam said this:
Quite the contrary.  The ethical and moral underpinnings of free
trade are freedom of choice and limited government.  No
collection of people has the right to  use force or the threat of
force to prevent mutually-advantageous economic transactions among
consenting adults.  That such a collection of people calls
itself a government instead of a mafia does not destroy the
rights of those whose transactions are being suppressed.

WRONG! Ask any economist. They'll tell you that free-trade is an economic
model only. It is quite possible to have a free market system under a
monarchy, oligarchy, even a totalitarianist state. And, BTW, as for this
"mutually-advantageous" bullshit, are you then in favor of legalized
prostitution (I am, but I bet you aint). What about legalized drug sales?
Selling handguns to ex-convicts? These could all be "mutually-advantageous
economic transactions among constenting adults", if we were so stupid as to
let them all be. However, ethical and moral considerations apart from
economics come into play. Which is why we ourselves are not purely
free-trade. Learn what rights really are, before you spout this silliness,
please.
From: ah532@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Gleba)
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: I need a little extra dough...
Date: 22 Dec 1992 04:52:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ah532@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Gleba)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu

Hey there-

	I'm a student that just lost my job at he grocery store, and
need to earn a little extra cash. Is there anybody on this system that
needs something done for there company. I'll sell products or stuff
envelopes of whatever. AS long as it isn't a scam. I've had a few
repsonses before from here, but they were a little more demanding that
what I was looking for. Thanks alot..

-Mike

-- 
Bodybuilders and Volleyball Players Will Rule The World

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From: drw@paley.mit.edu (Dale R. Worley)
Subject: Re: Carlton Sheets: What's the deal?
Organization: MIT Dept. of Tetrapilotomy, Cambridge, MA, USA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:53:47 GMT

Sounds like the stock market and many other things -- risky
investments give high (average) returns, but you have to be willing to
hang on for several cycles of the market for the risk to average out.
(E.g., my retirement funds are in high-beta stock funds.)  The stock
market cycles seem to be 5 years or so, but the real-estate cycles are
20 years or more...

Dale
From: voykhans@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: MASTERING MLM FOR THOSE WHO CARES
Date: 27 Dec 92 08:38:37 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services


HI EVERYBORY.

THIS MAG MAY AFFECT SOME PEOPLE, USING THIS NEWSCROUP WHO INVOLVED WITH MLM.
I HAVE A SUPERIOR TRAINING PROGRAM BY DAVID CURRY THAT IS OFFERED FOR SALE
THE PRICE FOR SET OF 6 TAPES AND WORK-BOOK IS $75.00 INCLUDES S&H.
PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING BEFORE RESPONDING ON THIS ADD.
AUTOR AND SPEAKER ; 
DAVID CURRY
HE BEGAN HIS BUSINESS CAREER AT AGE OF 28, AND OVER NEXT 5 YEARS BUILT A MULTIMILLION
DOLLAR A YEAR ORGANIZATION WITH SIX RETAIL STORES, A LARGE WHOLESALE COMPANY,
A SMALL MANUFACTURING FIRM AND A HEALING AND AIR-COND. BUSINESS. DUE TO HIS SUCCESS
HE WAS THE YOUNGEST MEMBER EVER ELECTED TO THE INTERNATIONAL BOARD OF DIRECTORS
OF HIS ASSOCIATION.
IN 1979 HE ENTERED THE SPEAKING FIELD. HE JOENED ZIG ZIGLAR IN 1985 AND
 CONDUCTED OVER 800 SEMINARS NATIONWIDE BEFORE GOING OUT ON HIS OWN IN 1991.
HE WAS THE FIRST MEMBER TO BE EVER ELECTED TO ZIG ZIGLAR'S MILLION DOLLAR CLUB 
AND HOLDS MANY  NATIONAL SALES RECORDS WITH ZIG ZIGLARS CORPORATION YET TODAY.
IN THE DECADE OF 80'S DAVID WAS ALSO SUCCESSFUL AT BUILDING TWO LARGE MULTI-LEVEL 
MARKETING ORGANIZATIONS.  TODAY HE TRAVELS NATIONWIDE CONDUCTING IN EXCESS OF 100
ENGAGEMENTS A YEAR AS A KEYNOTE MATIVATIONAL SPEAKER, SALES TRAINER AND SEMINAR I
NSTRUCTOR.
YOU WILL BE EXTRIMELY PLEASED WITH THE RESULTS YOU RECEIVE FROM
 DAVID CURRY PROFESSIONAL PRESENTATIONS. YOU WILL LEAVE WITH SPECIFIC ACHIVEMENT "HOW-TOS"
BUT BETTER YET, YOU'LL LEAVE WITH THE DESIRE TO PUT THIS KNOWLEDGE TO USE.

THE PROGRAM OFFERED IS EITHER SEMINAR OR SET OF 6-TAPES AND WORK-BOOK.
MASTERING MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING HAS 6 PARTS:
1. MASTERING THE RIGHT COMPANY
2. MASTERING PROSPECTING
3. MASTERING OPPORTUNITY MEETINGS AND OVERCOME OBJECTIONS
4. MASTERING YOUR PLAN OF ACTION
5. MASTERING LARGE ORGANIZATION
6. MASTERING YOUR A T T I T U D E!

I AM PERSONALY INVOLVED WITH A MLM COMPANY AND I D O  ENJOY A TRUMENDOUS GROWTH
IN MY OWN DOWNLINE AS I STARTED USING THIS PROGRAMM. THIS IS ONLY $75 AND IT
WELL WORTH E V E R Y   P E N N Y  OF IT!

I AM PERSONALY CONECTED WITH DAVID CURRY AND AM ABLE TO ARRANGE THE SEMINAR OR
THE SET OF TAPES. FOR MORE INFORMATION CONTACT GRIGORY VOYKHANSKY AT
(913)749-5792 THE BEST TIME IS 8-10P.M EVERY DAY.

THIS METTER WILL BE CNDUCTED OVER THE TELEPHONE O N L Y . PLEASE EITHER E-MAIL
YOUR PHONE NUMBER OR CALL ME.   ALL RESPONDS WILL BE ANSWERED WITHIN 48 HOURS.
(EXCLUDING SAT AND SUN AND HOLIDAYS).
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From: g9205802@cc.uow.edu.au (muralidharan chinnaiyan)
Subject: Exhibition-Environmental Management Conference
Summary: Exhibition-Environmental Management Conference
Keywords: Exhibition-Environmental Management Conference
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 02:59:34 GMT


               International Conference on Environmental Management 
               ****************************************************

                         Geo-water and Engineering Aspect
                         --------------------------------
                                 
                                8 - 11 February 1993 

                              University of Wollongong         
                                     Australia


                              Exhibition Information
                              **********************

A state of the art exhibition is being planned to supplement the International 

Conference  on  Environmental  Management  to  be  held  at  the University of 

Wollongong.  This  is  indeed  a great opportunity for Australian and overseas 

companies to demonstrate and  advertise  their  expertise,  latest  equipment, 

services  etc.  in  the  general  area  of  Environmental Management focussing 

specially on Geo-water and Engineering Aspects.


The  conference  has  attracted  more than 200 abstracts from 30 countries and 

currently we have received over 100 papers.   It is expected that over 250-300 

participants will attend the conference.


Space provision and availability:
********************************

It  is  expected that over 20 booths will be made available approximately each 

9 Sq.m  in  floor area.  The allocation of booths will be done on a first come 

first  served  basis.  If you intend to occupy more than 9 Sq.m floor area you 

can rent two adjacent booths at a reduced rate.


Space rental:
************

The  rental  price  is $1600 per booth for all four days.  However if you rent 

two adjacent spaces it will be $2800 per two booths.


What will you get?

Each  booth  will  comprise  of  a  rear  wall  and  two  side  panels  each 

3.0m long x 2.4m high.  The entrance is 3.0 m in length.

One sign per booth 

2 x 150w spot lights

All walls and fascia covered with front runner material

Carpet on stands

Space reservation and payment:
*****************************

For reservation:	

please call	Mrs Val McMillan on 042-213243 (Mon- Thur)
			
		or please call	Siva M Sivakumar on 042-213055 
		
		or please fax	Siva M Sivakumar on 042-213238

 		or please E-mail M.Sivakumar@uow.edu.au

Payment:  	Should be made by cheque payable to:
		
		"University of Wollongong - R&D Geowater"




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MURALIDHARAN CHINNAIYAN                | 5/13, Hill View Avennue,
Dept. of Civil & Mining Engineering,   | Gwynneville, NSW 2500,
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
From: crafts@athena.mit.edu (The Invisible Man)
Subject: Info on home video games wholesalers needed...
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 12:01:57 GMT

Hello fellow entrepeneurs,

I need a little info on who does wholesale of Sega/Nintendo
 games and accesories for my mail-order business. If I could
deal with them directly that'd be great so direct info would be
appreciated but any info would be great.

Thanks

Dan
crafts@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
From: pgt@fc.hp.com (Paul Tobin)
Subject: Re: VISA question -- Merchant Accounts revisited once more!
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 17:42:15 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

J. Robert Burgoyne (burgoyne@access.digex.com) wrote:

: Say you got 2.7% instead of 3.7% for $2,000 in sales. Excuse me, but
: we're talking about $20. Per month minimum charges can easily vary
: by much more, and each merchant account incurs an application fee 
: usually on the order of $50+.

Excuse me, but $20 is capital for making more products to sell.
You're right that monthly charges and other fees must be considered,
and we should take the best package available.  That's why I asked the
question: to get information, not derisiveness.

Thanks to all who have replied.  Most assumed (logically) that we're
running a mail order business, but such is not the case.  That's
helping us with the banks.  We've also found a local bank that
welcomes small business, and the bank President often answers the
phone herself!

	-Paul
From: voykhans@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: Re: BillBoards/Advertisement
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:39:09 CST
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <mhart.725663015@blackjack>, mhart@blackjack.dt.navy.mil (Michael Hart) writes:
> In <1992Dec29.163158.13236@cbfsb.cb.att.com> timbob@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (paul.t.dunfee) writes:
> 
>>In article <JDAVIS.92Dec29083137@dante.nmsu.edu> jdavis@nmsu.edu (DAVIS) writes:
>>>THe mentioning of internet with NO billboards is lacking. 
> 
> [original quoted text deleted]
> 
>>Chuckle; must be another freshman, heh?     8*)
>>- Tim.
> 
> Yeah, must be.  He can't even trim down the quoted text on a 
> followup.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> |   Michael G. Hart                   mhart@blackjack.dt.navy.mil    |
> |--------------------------------------------------------------------|
> |     You think _I_ speak for the government or the navy?  HAH!      |
> | Aviation, computers, quality improvement, Northern Exposure, money |
XDear  Michael...
and Michael-like...
Hey ....I thought business is being discussed here not people. 
Do not get personal...it is suggestion.
Now if you guys think you are enterprenuors and do not think that advertisement
over the net is good idea,  well just think again...

Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
From: kpjone01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: 900/976 Phone services.
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 00:54:06 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

Greets,
 
A buddy of mine just go ahold of all the computer equipment that a phone 
services company (976-XXXX and 900-XXX-XXXX) had when they went under and he
is considering the possibilities of starting a similar company.  Has anyone
on the net had any experience with that type of business?  Also, what are
some ideas for services besides phone sex.  I suggested doing horoscopes and
things like that but those are already printed in the newspaper so he declined
to consider that idea.  Is it possible to make any money with a service via
phone lines or has the idea already been worn out? Anyone have any suggestion?

Kevin
 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kevin Jones                                   KPJONE01@ULKYVX.CT.LOUISVILLE.EDU
Lab Supervisor                                KPJONE01@ULKYVX.LOUISVILLE.EDU
Computing and Telecommunications              PHONE:  502-588-6303
University of Louisville, KY                  FAX:    502-588-0150

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: rodb@slugo.corp.sgi.com (Rod Beckwith)
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: Free Inventors Seminar!
Keywords: FREE
Date: 27 Dec 92 00:28:57 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

Hello eneryone,


I received this infomation in the mail on DEC-8-92. I called & talked to
one of the organizers(Livia). She said it was well worth the price(FREE):->
This event is sponsored by INPEX, " Americas Largest Invention Trade Show"
I AM RECEIVING NO RENUMERATION FOR THIS ANNOUNCEMENT!

What you will learn:

1. How to present your product to business and industry in a cost-effective
manner.

2. Techniques for attempting to establish personal contacts with business
represenatives.

3. How feedback which you may receive can prove beneficial for your
invention.

4. How you can use a trade show as a limited type of test or market survey
on your product.

5. How INPEX awards can help you in promoting your invention.

6. What makes INPEX the ideal trade show for inventions.


The times & dates that follow are for California only. I am sure they do
this on a nation wide basis, so please use the 800# below to call & find
out. Ask for Livia. 800-422-0871 You must call this number to make
reservations if you wish to attend.

The times & dates are as follows:

January 9, 1993  Los Angeles Airport Hilton     10:00am-Noon
January 11, 1993 San Diego Mission Valley Hilton 7:00pm-9:00pm
January 13, 1993 Sacramento Hilton Inn           7:00pm-9:00pm
January 16, 1993 San Francisco Sharaton         10:00am-Noon

See you Jan16th.................


Also here is a re-post of the information for the Inventors Assistance
League  (A NON PROFIT ORGANIZATION):


Inventors & Creative people of Earth,
> 
> Here is the information you have been waitng for:
> ADDRESS------
> The Inventors Assistance League
> 4525 Airwest Dr. S.E.
> Grand Rapids, Mich. 49512
> PHONE NUMBER-------
> (1) 800-846-3228
> Simply write or call for a *FREE* brochure.
> 
> The information presented is clear, concise, & to the point. A no
nonsense
> approach. Good luck & happy INVENTING!
> Drop me an email & let me know what you think.
 


Rod

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From: grb@rbyte.proteus.qc.ca (G. Randolph Bickerton)
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: Re: commerce as a result of the net.
Date: 1 Jan 93 19:05:25 GMT
Organization: Right Byte Industries, Ville St-Laurent Quebec Canada

I agree but is there a newsgroup called "biz.announce.,\new-cons"?

G. Randolph Bickerton              GRB@rbyte.proteus.qc.ca
P.O. Box 751                       TEL (514)744-5524
Pte-Claire Dorval, PQ  H9S 2L5     FAX (514)748-8109
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
From: tscwhitehead@cc.weber.edu (Clarke Whitehead)
Subject: Re: CD Mail Order
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Weber State University
Date: 28 Dec 1992 14:49 MST  

In article <BzoIE1.Lt@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>, nkkwan@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Thomas Kwan Nang Kon) writes...
>Recently, I checked up a stereo magazine, and notified there is
>an advertisment from a CD Club. They claimed that you can get
>4 CDs just for 1 cent, and the obligation is that you have to
>order 4 more at regular price around $14.0-17.0. My question is
>how they get such good prices? I am thinking to set up mail order for
>japanese CDs.
> 
>ThOmAs KwAn
>nkkwan@descartes.uwaterloo.ca

There's nothing special about that offer.  BMG Direct Marketing (one of the
major record/tape/CD clubs offer deals where you get 8 CDs for the price of
one to get you signed up. They have regular deals where you buy one and
get two free.  I don't know what the cost is to such a company, but the
price per CD to the buyer comes to $5-6.  They probably get them for around
$3 to make a profit.  The deal you mentioned gives you 8 cd's at the price
of 4 so you are still paying $7 to $8.50 per CD.

Clarke

Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
From: ogden_jon@macmail1.rtsg.mot.com
Subject: Re: BillBoards/Advertisement
Organization: Motorola LPA Development
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 09:04:22 GMT

In article <JDAVIS.92Dec29083137@dante.nmsu.edu> jdavis@nmsu.edu (DAVIS)
writes:
>THe mentioning of internet with NO billboards is lacking. 
> Think of this.. Most machines get logged in to many times a day. Some
>100+ different college kids log into our main UNIX here at NMSU each
>school day. This makes me think of the $$ that could be made by
>selling MOTD advertising. In the message of the day, one could put an
>advertisement for the people logging in to see. 

What I like about internet  is the fact that there are NO billboards or adds. 
If you want those log onto Prodigy!!



Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
From: jdavis@nmsu.edu (DAVIS)
Subject: BillBoards/Advertisement
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: misc
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:31:37 GMT

THe mentioning of internet with NO billboards is lacking. 
 Think of this.. Most machines get logged in to many times a day. Some
100+ different college kids log into our main UNIX here at NMSU each
school day. This makes me think of the $$ that could be made by
selling MOTD advertising. In the message of the day, one could put an
advertisement for the people logging in to see. THis would be text,
but it doesn't mean that a graphical representation couldn't be
placed. This of all the Xterminals in your Cluster/Pod/classroom
displaying a large advertisement. As for the MOTD, it would be easy to
even add in a coupon where the person wanting to use it would only
have to do a screen dump and use. The statistics on how many people
see this would be easy. How many logins from different people each
day.! THe charge, well, I would guess bout $5 a day for one
advertisement on a machine that gets decent trafic. (Its $5 for your
pocket complete profit, though you might have to type/scan in an
advertisement and gemacs it into the /etc/motd..)  one could even
charge a company for advertising and append it to their .signature and
post.
$$$$... Intenet is full of money making opertunities. THough of course
there are some out there who don't want to see advertising in the
MOTD. I mean everytime you read a .sig there is usually some type of 
advertising. ex. This opinion if my own and not from XXXX.. As 
entrepeneurs, we need to break those barriers and get advertising in.
I think in the future, the net will be commercial. Think of having a
contract with the large university and public machines and giving the 
university/public machine owners $1 per day, well you could make $5.'
What would be the correct amount to charge? (I guess it would depend
on what was advertised. Food, coupons and only a few bucks. But on a
hightech machine advertising some hightech like thing, $$$$ mucho
more!)
 Just a though for the entrepeneur in us all!
Jeff Davis

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