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From: rstevew@deeptht.armory.com (Richard Steven Walz)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.sex
Subject: Re: Nice Guys?
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:32:46 GMT
Organization: The Armory

In article <QeoinK600WB9M2krkU@andrew.cmu.edu> ag1v+@andrew.cmu.edu (Andrea B. Gansley-Ortiz) writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.alt.romance: 3-Oct-92 Re: Nice Guys? by Alan
>Smith@lamar.ColoSta 
>> I'm going to ressuect an old concept just for you: The Date.  On a Date, 
>> two people go out, maybe take in a movie, eat some food, make googley 
>> eyes at each pother and fight over politcs for an evening.  Then they go 
>> home.  The next day, one of them calls the other one up and says "Hey, 
>> that was fun, you wanna do it again?"  If the other one says "yes" enough 
>> times, they are "going out," "SOs" "Going steady" etc.  If not, then they 
>> each go their separate ways.
------------
I only "date" my male friends. I only spend my money on them. I see no
reason to spend money on people I don't know and like yet. Women I
"meet". We go dutch. We don't go someplace noisy or crowded or
expensive. We talk and listen. If they seem nice and sane, I call them
back. If they continue to seem nice, then we might go have lunch,
still dutch. It is important to me and I think I speak for many men
these days of hard economics, that the woman show the ability to meet
on equal terms. If she can't afford it, I would invite her to come
home and have tea and whatever is in the cupboard. Or she might do the
same. Balanced terms. If she becomes a friend, I still expect her to
pick up her share of the checks when we do go out to eat or something.
Movies I watch at home, usually, after I have heard how good/bad they
are, since so many of them are bad. There are a few exceptions, but I
don't participate in the enrichment of UA Inc., especially their lousy
popcorn, unless the movie is a real winner, usually sci-fi, or special
in a touching way. If they become fully my friend, then they will have
become my SO at the same time, as I see no reason to divide the two
processes. If she doesn't want that, she will have left early in the
process, as I make that quite clear. If she is my SO, then I spend
money as freely as I can. But I expect her to as well. I don't go in
for a lot of presents, I prefer things that she finds that are
touching. A dubbed tape off a good CD is precious. A simple chain she
likes at the flea market she might find around her neck some night.
Eating together in bed naked is holy. My religion is simple. Love the
one who loves you.
- Steve

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From: slayer@gl.pitt.edu (Deborah)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: What's Romantic?
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:42:39 GMT



  Just a simple little thread.  What do you think is more romantic: 

(A) Really big romantic getaways,

	Yes I think romantic getaways are great. Just being able to
take time off and go away to be together alone is great :)

(B) More romantic 'little things'? (e.g. a little card for no reson)

	Well my SO is one big romantic.. Everything he does means so
much to me.. Right now I am sick with bronchitis and he is taking such
good care of me by giving me my medicine and making sure I am comfortable.
And I am taking care of him since he is so sleep deprived from studying.
Everything we do for each other means so much... Nothing can be more romantic.

-- 
May look a little young 
So what's wrong ?
You don't have to be old to be wise
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From: oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.couples
Subject: Re: Advice-how to break up?
Date: 16 Oct 92 11:16:26 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

villa@cod.nosc.mil (Felipe Villa Jr.) writes:

>In article <74217@ut-emx.uucp> trevino@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Melissa Trevino) writes:
>>From: trevino@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Melissa Trevino)
>>Subject: Re: Advice-how to break up?
>>Date: 19 Jun 92 14:48:59 GMT
>>
>>	Ouch.  This hit a little too close to home.  I have been having a few prproblems w/ my LDR (most on the subject of "if you say we should get married,
>>then for God's sake, lets just do it!") so when I saw your post I cringed.  How
>>long have you been dating her?  I guess that really does not matter.  I would do the break up in person.  Of course this means you have to deal with her, but
>>doing it over the phone, or in a letter, is very inconsiderate.  Just take her someplace semi-public, like a park, and tell her straight out.  If you beat around the bush as to the why's of the whole thing, she'll wonder and brood about it
>>and make it all harder on her.  But like I said, you will have to deal with her
>>emotions ful force, and something tells me you are a afraid to do that.  Just
>>MHO....

Breaking up with someone over the phone or in a letter is extremely gutless, in
my most humble opinion.  If you really care for the person you are breaking
up with, you will do it in person.  And you'll be prepared to deal with that
person's grief.  If you've dated someone for a long time, even if you've lost
"that loving feeling" your soon-to-be-ex-partner may not have and it is going
to take him or her some time to get to the same point that you're at.
From: ekman@netcom.com (Crossly the Glad-Eyed Bear)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Gifts for Men (Re: Anniversery Gift Suggestions?)
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:55:04 GMT
Organization: Home for the Terminally Infirm

In article <sepMt=600iUzE1mX5N@andrew.cmu.edu> "Andrea B. Gansley-Ortiz" <ag1v+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>A question. I often see suggestions for gifts, etc. for women, but
>rarely do I see suggestions of what to get men for their birthdays,
>christmas, anniverseries, etc.
>
>What kinds of gifts do the guys here think are romantic and something
>they'd like to get? Suggestions?

I'd sure like a  new set of tires for the Chevy.
-- 
Crossly the Glad-Eyed Bear              ekman@netcom.com
Home for the Terminally Infirm, Redwood City, California
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: An emerald as an engagement ring?
From: "Andrea B. Gansley-Ortiz" <ag1v+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:05:16 -0400 
Organization: Engineering Design Research Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

If you went thru the trouble to go 'ring shopping' with her, then
I think it would be worth trusting her opinion as to what she said
she likes.

I think an emerald ring is a wonderful stone to have in an engagement
ring. But then I like emeralds a great deal. I think diamonds are nice,
but after realizing that they're mined in South Africa (a great majority)
I would rather not contribute to their government. So I'd rather have
an emerald.

I think having her wait and think about it is a good idea. There's no
reason to rush.

You don't have to know 'how this ring-stuff works'. If you and she 
decide to buy them all at once or search for the wedding rings later,
then that's what's right for you. Don't let some book (or person) tell
you you're doing it the wrong way if both of you are content with the
way you're doing it.

ag
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: rwb7054@venus.tamu.edu
Subject: Advice for Confused Soul
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:23:00 GMT

OK folks, I'm sitting here trying to figure out how to remedy a situation
and I thought maybe a few impartial opinions might be of help.

Here goes....

I am in a co-ed "fraternity" here and have had the chance to work with our
"pledges" this semester.  We took them on a retreat a few weekends ago to
give them an orientation to the different activities we do. One night during
thr retreat, I had the opportunity to get to know one of the girls fairly
well. We stayed up late one night and talked about five hours about 
everything from old cars to relationships to favorite movies.  Since that
time we have spent some time together and have had some really great times.

I am extremely attracted to this girl, but there are a few kinks in the
rope.  One, she is dating a guy who lives about 90 miles from here.  She met
him this summer while she was working there, and they've been going out
since late August.  She and I have talked about this relationship, and it
doesn't seem to me like it is anything super serious, but I never can tell.
Secondly, the "pledges" have been discouraged from dating/seeing any of the
active members(i.e. myself), and I am worried that if I tell her about my
feelings for her, I will put added pressure on her, and that is the last 
thing I want to do.

Every time I'm around her, I am completely starstruck. She and I are extremely
close, and she can read me like a book, so I feel like I can't look her in the
eyes because I'm worried she will be able to see how I feel about her.  We
have always said that OUR relationship is based on trust, and I feel like I'm
breaking that trust by not revealing my feelings to her.

Should I say something to her, or should I wait?

I think that I should say something, but I'm not sure how to approach the 
situation. I would be much obliged if someone could help me out and give
me a few suggestions.

Thanks for listening to my SOb story, and thanks for any advice!!!!



Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: robg@citr.uq.oz.au (Rob Geraghty)
Subject: Re: How do you tell a girl your feelings?
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 07:54:43 GMT

stuarta@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU (Stuart Andrews) writes:

>_Don't use irritators_
>Don't say "when you wiggle your bum like a tart" even if that is what she does
>Do Say   "when you wiggle your bume in that pretty/cute way that you do"
>ie; be nice

Better still, *don't* talk as though you are lusting after her body.
(even though you are ;)
Would *you* feel comfortable if she suddenly told you you had a cute
ass?
Some guys would, but my point is that most people don't like to be
treated as a sex object.  So instead of the above, how about

"I love the way you move.  *Especially* the way you walk when you know
I'm watching"

You see - I'm focussing on what *she* is doing, not what part of her
anatomy she's doing it with ;)

*Warning*!!  *NEVER* use someone else's words, and try to avoid planning
lines.  She wants to hear honest, direct words spoken from the heart,
not what someone else thinks.  This is difficult if you're not good with
words (and being around someone special is enough to send anyone's
vocabulary on holidays ;) ... but you've got to try.

Your own words, spoken with feeling, will mean more than a thousand
trite phrases and copied poems.

Rob

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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: psybeast@world.std.com (The UnKnown Beast)
Subject: Golds, Reds, and Yellows in New England
Organization: Part of the Human Race
Distribution: alt.romance
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:03:04 GMT

I am a SWM (28yrs/5'10"/200lbs) that just spent the weekend camping in the
woods of Western Massachusetts, and I was wondering if there were any
S*F (20-30yrs) that are also into this time of the year near Beantown...

I have a car and a tent... Would you like to setup camp??

PsyBeast

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From: slayer@gl.pitt.edu (Deborah)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Won't have Sex with a Fat Guy
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:47:48 GMT


>> if he didn't lose weight, she wouldn't have sex with him anymore...

>Well, isn't that just a bit insensitive, or is it me?

 Well I would like to put about 2 cents in here okay.. Hasn't anyone
 everyheard the expression "it's what inside that counts" ?
 I can not believe how insensitive people can be...

-- 
May look a little young 
So what's wrong ?
You don't have to be old to be wise
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: dahead00@nx28.mik.uky.edu (Zippidy Do Dah)
Subject: Re: Ok, Lets Do it Right the First time
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 08:34:52 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.024325.21335@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com  
(drieux, just drieux) writes:
> kkwwkk@mixcom.com (TA Shaw) writes:

(stuff deleted
> 
> ok BDC,
(stuff from drieux deleted)
> 
> ciao
> drieux

Watch out drieux this is how the purity test first got started!!!!

And we ALL know just how far that one went!!!!!!!!



Zippy D   PURITY TEST!!!! Where the hell is my C-4 plastique??!!
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Nice Guys?
From: jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner)
Date: 13 Oct 92 11:19:56 EST
Distribution: na
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

aras@athena.mit.edu writes:
> 
> >>ttocek@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Tomas (too much) Tocek) writes:
> >>>>>>  I know a girl at MIT currently studying for her PhD in 
> >>>>>>  Physics Her specilization is quantam mechanics and this 
> >>>>>>  girl is on fire!
> 
> >>>After all what good is a gorgeous girl with no brain/personality 
> >>>????
> 
> >I'd expect an MIT PhD Physics student to have at least a brain.  
> >Personality, well, that's a different issue.

oh, they'll have personality all right. i doubt there's a single 
physics major in the world who isn't certifiably insane. :^)
the thought of "gorgeous girls" in that category makes me (to quote
Dr. Frank N. Furter) "OOHoohoohoohoo!"

> Ouch!  Can I say ouch now?  That really hurts...
> ...being from there and all.  Maybe you ought to go
> up there and meet some :)

talk about your basic mindbending experience...

jason "and i actually had the gall to think CS majors were strange" steiner

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From: be00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Blair E Echols)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.sex
Subject: Re: HELP!!
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:05:08 GMT
	<BvwxBE.K1F@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Organization: Sophomore, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Jennifer,
    Being a guy, this is what I feel. My friends and I sometimes talk
about this kind of thing. I say go for it. We all love the idea of a
woman approaching us (or calling, you know). My girlfriend approached me
and it made me so happy. It is what guys dream of. Sweep him away.

Blair
Organization: Engineering Design Research Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Date: Fri,  9 Oct 1992 09:51:07 -0400 
From: "Andrea B. Gansley-Ortiz" <ag1v+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Gifts for Men (Re: Anniversery Gift Suggestions?)

A question. I often see suggestions for gifts, etc. for women, but
rarely do I see suggestions of what to get men for their birthdays,
christmas, anniverseries, etc.

What kinds of gifts do the guys here think are romantic and something
they'd like to get? Suggestions?

ag
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Subject: Planned Romantic Happenings (was Re: What's Romantic?
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:16:32 GMT

reha@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Reha Elci) writes:
] diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) writes:
] >
] >To me - a "really big romantic getaway" involves planning,
] >time, forethought, etc., and therefore can get a lot of
] >preconceptions over what SHOULD happen during the time - and
] >as we all know, not everything turns out the way it's planned
] >to turn out.  It does help if both people are in on the 
] >planning, and it's something that both have looked forward
] >to, and there are no outside worries that will haunt them
] >at the time - but IMMHO there are too many variables to 
] >make this successful very often.
] >
] I really disagree with that Diana (sorry!). There is no substitute for
] spontaneous romance no matter which group they belong. The only problem
] with really big stuff is that you must have the financial means to
] accomplish them. For example, I'd show up at my SO's office on friday 
] (telling her before I'd pick her up for dinner) and take her straight 
] to the airport catching the next flight over to the Caribbean for a 
] romantic weekend. In fact, whether you do small or big things, it should
] be mostly spontaneous; I've found to be a lot more fun then planning.
] Also, when planned things fall thru it is much more of a disappointment :-(

Check again - I think you're actually agreeing with me.

If you have the finances to plan a spontaneous flight
to the Carribean, then that becomes a "small spontaneous
romantic item" - choice b.  I had in mind more what a
pair of friends are doing - planning a 3 week vacation
to another part of the world.  My problem with that is 
for ME (and again - this is for me), I have too many
other things I'd be worried about.  My mom, who's older
and depends on me; the fact that I get bad migraines
easily; that I don't fly well; who would take care of 
my cats; what would happen to my house.  So on...I'm
enough of a home-body/hermit that the "long romantic
getaway" would be a chore for me - whereas the small
gift would mean a lot.  

We DID get away for a vacation - for 4 days - which 
was fun, but it was a place I knew, so I didn't need
to worry about what to do when there, and I knew the
house/cats could take care of themselves for that short
a time.  

It's the "Big Romantic Getaway" part that I would have
trouble with - so I chose Chris's choice "B".

Diana
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.sex
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Rings  
From: Ben_Keng@kcbbs.gen.nz (Ben Keng)
Date: 14 Oct 92 02:53:50 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

 What particular meanings are associated by the wearing of rings on  
different fingers on either hand? Do you think there are differences  
based on culture? Do any of you ladies wear them as a 'deterrent', sign  
of commitment or just as a fashion statement?  
  
 In particular, the meaning of a ring on the 4th finger on the right  
hand..
From: bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: How do you tell a girl your feelings?
Date: 9 Oct 1992 17:20:22 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1687BA5A9.AVERNON1@ua1vm.ua.edu> AVERNON1@ua1vm.ua.edu (Andrew Vernon) writes:
>Guideline number one: DON'T DO IT!!!! Every female friend I've approached
>in this situation, save one, has turned on me. 
But, was this one female friend who didn't turn on you worth the risk, the
dangers, the chance of getting hurt, etc. etc. etc?
I'm just interested in asking all a.r fans what their past experiences
in this matter is (ie, how many good friends they had tried to become
more than friends, how many succeeded, how come it worked, how many
failed, and why it didn't work...I think a full discussion could be
enlightening to some (namely, me)...well, if ya have some experience,
post! :)

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Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Inter-racial relationships. What do you think?
From: mlbruce@husc11.harvard.edu (Matthew Bruce)
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:51:13 GMT
From: stefanos@cs.concordia.ca (KIAKAS stefanos)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs
Date: 10 Oct 92 07:16:25 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec


	I think a very romantic song is Moondance ( I think that's the name
I'm  not sure. ) by Van Morrison.

stef
From: bushmanangel@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Army Boots?
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:17:43 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <1992Oct8.101246.12165@csd.uwe.ac.uk>, pa_ross@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Mr Rossy) writes:
>>over by the sexist jokes or hitting the glass ceiling; we want to truly SHARE
>>the power base.  Fair enuff, eh??
> 
> This does not sound like Feminism to me it sounds more like equality, a
> concept I agree with whole heartedly (sp?)
> 
> 					 Paul
> 					=----=


Funny, that's exactly what feminism is all about!  You're beginning to 
understand.

Angela
From: cv235890@longs.lance.colostate.edu (Carol Vollmer)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: B-day present for boyfriend?
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:50:22 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523


   Hello,

I would like some suggestions on what to get my boyfriend for his birthday.
We have only been going out for about two months, but I would like to get
him something special.  He is going to be 22 on the 22 of October.  Guys 
what do you like to get as a gift from your girlfriend?  If it helps any
our relationship began mostly with him chasing me.  So I know he's crazy
about me, I just haven't let him know how much I really like him. 
Or if any of the women out there have got some ideas let me know.

Thanks,

Carol
From: wheeler@edp.edsg.hac.com (Bob Wheeler ird)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Birthday gift for a girlfriend
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:06:37 GMT
Reply-To: wheeler@edp.UUCP (Bob Wheeler ird)
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Co., El Segundo, CA

Help.

I want to give my girlfriend a "Kladaugh" (spelling?) ring for her birthday.
A Kladaugh ring is the Irish equivalent of a promise ring.  It has hands
wrapping around and touching a heart with a crown on the heart.

Does anyone know where I can find one?

Please mail me a response.
I am at wheeler@clipper.edsg.hac.com  (I don't think the above works)


	Peace!

	Bob Wheeler.