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From: jbelury@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Josh Belury)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: brakes -- 79 Honda Accord
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:23:55 GMT
Reply-To: jbelury@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Josh Belury)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: jbelury@pooh.cc.utexas.edu

The brake light (the idiot light on the insrument panel) in my Honda stays on 
all the time.

The parking brake is kinda feeble, but it was like that before the light
came on.  The brakes seem to work fine.  No noises, and reasonable stopping 
distance.

I don't have much money, and I'm about to drive 1000 miles home for xmas.
I've never worked on brakes, but I'm confident with tools and techy
stuff.

What is the likely problem here indicated by the light?  How should
I troubleshoot it, can I fix it, or can I ignore it and take off on
my trip???

The car is a 79 Honda Accord CVCC 5spd manual.

Thanks,
Dan
dans@tenet.edu (send email here, not to the above address)
From: epc1@quads.uchicago.edu (Merlin)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: 1993 Ford Probe GT - a good buy?
Date: 19 Dec 92 21:46:16 GMT
Reply-To: epc1@midway.uchicago.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Dec19.092002.6556@leland.Stanford.EDU> tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen) writes:
>
>i'd take the probe GT over the integra GS-R any day.
>that V-6 is sweet, and the car is loads of fun to drive.
>not that the integra GS-R doesn't have a nice engine,
>but it's a 4-cylinder... not as smooth and it's peaky.
>if the integra GS-R cost much less than it does now,
>it'd be a good buy.  the probe GT is more performance-oriented,
>too.  buy the probe GT.

I own a 93 Mazda MX-6LS.  It's a beauty, comfortable, and relatively powerful.
I'd rather own a MX-6 than a Probe (and as a matter of fact, I do).
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: koziarz@halibut.nosc.mil (Walter A. Koziarz)
Subject: Re: Ford 4x4 Opinions Sought
Keywords: 4x4 opinions
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:56:01 GMT

In article <8kn20m-@rpi.edu> jkurien@rdrc.rpi.edu (James Kurien) writes:

> Hi all.
>	I am looking for a truck, and was wondering 
>	if anyone out there has any opinions on Ford four wheel 
>	drive vehicles, preferably in the 1985-1990 range,
>	especially the Bronco and Bronco II.  I'd also be 
>	interested in what type of mileage people get, as I'm
>	totally clueless as how four wheel drive affects this.

Well, I have an opinion, a negative one, on Ford 4x4s less than the F-350.
These lesser-vehicles use what Ford calls 'Twin-Traction-Beam' (TTB) frontends.
These are extremely difficult to perform routine service on.  Drain and refill
of the lubricant requires removal of the axle shafts since the swing-arm that
forms on of the suspension-members also functions as the differential cover.
The entire differential case must be removed from the suspension-member to
drain it, and in order to remove it, the axles and driveshaft must first be
removed.  Also, the Bronco-II has a wimpy aluminum front differential housing
and the stock V-6 engine is more than capable of providing sufficient torque to
take teeth off the ring and pinion and shatter the case.  If you intend to do
any *S*E*R*I*O*U*S* off-roading, only Dodge offers a suitable running-gear
combination in all its 4x4s (except the Dakota, but that's only an
"almost-truck").  For serious off-roading, stay away, far away from independent
front suspensions as these decrease ground clearance as they travel.  Only a
solid axle is suitable for extreme duty, the IFS-setups are for cruising
boulevards.

Walt K.
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From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: New car advice WANTED
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:16:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.114439.2506@merrimack.edu> moscaritolos@merrimack.edu writes:
>I am out of college in the next year or so and I have been thinking about
>buying a new car....What I have been looking at are the new Jeep Wranglers,
>the new Pontiac Grand Am's, and the Buick Reatta's.  Could you guys tell me
>what you know about these babies...especially if someone owns one...
>
>Thanks...Steve M.
>

	Well, I know that the Reatta is out of production after this year, to
make way for the IMPACT.  Is there really a new Wrangler?


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From: morton@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Brent Morton)
Subject: Re: 1990 Audi 100 S...
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:25:07 GMT

In article <92353.101043KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu> <KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>"Joseph D. Mazza" <mazz+@andrew.cmu.edu> says:
>
>>                                                    (BTW, there's been
>>speculation in the press over the years that Audi KNEW the 100LS was a
>>dog, but rushed it to market anyway, despite its MB reject engine and
>>other unsolved problems.
>
>What MB reject engine?

Ludwig Kraus joined DKW from Mercedes-Benz in 1963, and brought with him a
so-called "middle pressure" engine that had been developed under his auspices.
This was an overhead-valve four, designed to run at a higher compression
ratio than usual. It was of 1696cc, ran at 11.2:1, and developed 72 bhp. It
was first used in the 1965 Audi. Many variants of the engine followed, for
cars such as the 1966 80L, the 1770cc Super 90 and the 1968 75.

The 100 model of 1968 used the 80 bhp variant of the engine, and a 90 bhp
rating came with the 100 S. 

This 100 series of 1968-1976 was the best-selling Audi series of the time, and
was largely responsible for the improvement in the firm's fortunes around
1970.

-- Brent
morton@artifis.gaul.csd.uwo.ca
From: dtg@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Isuzu Trooper and/or Rodeo???
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:25:15 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

Would someone offer up an opinion on either an Isuzu Trooper or the Isuzu
Rodeo??

They seem to fit my $$$ and needs but I haven't been able to find much as far
as customer opinions.

Thanks
dave
grasso@cards.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen)
Subject: Re: Civic LX, Saturn SL1.. what else should I consider...
Followup-To: rec.smiles.mcdonalds
Keywords: pl. suggest choices...
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 05:31:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.052130.20253@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>I said, "'smile' (literally)".  In other words, in the menu on the
>overhead board in Tokyo's MacDonald's, several items (Big Mac's, etc.) and
>their prices were listed, but the word "smile" (in Japanese) was
>also written.  It's cost was listed as "0 yen".
>
>There is no equivalent at MacDonald's in the USA.  Like I said,
>service in America sucks.  That includes service at car dealerships.
>They S.U.C.K. the big one.

then i guess you haven't been to any McDonald's restaurants lately.
the last time i went to the one in the stanford shopping center,
"smile" was listed on the menu.  free, of course.

i think it is something of a stretch to make the connection between
"smile" on a menu and service at car dealerships.  are you telling us
that you wouldn't mind being screwed if they'd just smile while doing it?

followups to rec.smiles.mcdonalds

-teddy
From: jas20@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (John A Sigmon)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Long-term Engine Storage, Suggestions
Keywords: engine swap
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:45:03 GMT
Reply-To: jas20@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (John A Sigmon)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Hi,
.
I am about to do an engine swap on my `86 4-Runner and am looking at
storing the original engine for about 1 year. Other than changing the oil,
putting a little oil in the cylinders, and removing all the antifreeze is
there anything else I should do to keep the engine in re-usable condition?
.
Thanks, John Sigmon
Amdahl Corp
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From: colombo@bronco.fnal.gov
Subject: Re: Not ALL YJs suck.........!!!!!
Organization: Fermilab Computing Division
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:27:35 GMT

In article <1gnm1rINN2a3@cronkite.Central.Sun.COM>, dbernard@clesun.Central.Sun.COM (Dave Bernard) writes:
>>Well I have a CJ-7, it was made by AMC.  I got it stuck in deep water the
>>first weekend I had it, rolled it within a year.  I understand the
>>statements regarding fit and finish, but what's a *dash* and *carpets*?
> 
> "Dash" and "carpet" are items that come in the base Wrangler, with a few
> options like hard top, power steering, rear window defroster, std transmission,
> with a sticker price of $17,000.


Oh, that explains why I only paid $5108 for my Jeep, with a hard top.
What's power steering and a rear window defroster?  Next you'll be
telling me there's a *sound proofing* package too.   ;-)

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Newsgroups: rec.autos
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:36:03 -0500 
From: "Joseph D. Mazza" <mazz+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: 1990 Audi 100 SUCKS !!!!!!!!!!!!e+10

>>Ever since my 100LS experience I've avoided Audi's like the plague --
>>despite their seemingly high quality/cost ratio and many testimonials
>>about how much they've IMPROVED over the years.  Forget it.  They had
>>their chance with me.
>...
>>I'm sorry about all your problems, but not surprised.  It's just the
>>"100" living up to it's proud heritage!
> 
>that was 1970.  by the same yardstick, if you had had a '70s era
>honda civic (total rustbucket piece of junk), you'd never buy
>a new civic because it's such a piece of junk.
 
You might be right!  (...although, I've never heard anyone describe a
1992 Honda as a piece of junk, the way the previous poster described a
1992 Audi 100.)  I'm not saying that my decision to avoid Audis is
SMART, I'm only saying it's what my decision IS, based on personal
(albeit dated) experience.  My point is, that because of my terrible
100LS and my friend's great Bavaria, Audi lost a customer (me) to BMW. 
That didn't happen yesterday.  That happened in 1971.  "That was a long
time ago," you say?  True, but why should I give Audi another chance NOW
when I've been perfectly happy with BMW for years?  (BTW, there's been
speculation in the press over the years that Audi KNEW the 100LS was a
dog, but rushed it to market anyway, despite its MB reject engine and
other unsolved problems.  So okay, that was their business decision. 
Fair enough.  But my decision, dumb though it may seem, is to avoid a
company that has let me down in the past -- especially when there are
other plenty of other companies whose reputations, even now, are much
better (e.g., BMW).)  I am not trying to convince anyone not to buy an
Audi.  Go ahead!  Have a ball!  (They DO sound like good cars, if you
believe their press -- and they probably are.)  I was just commiserating
with the previous poster whose experience with the new 100 reminded me
of mine with the 100LS and added to my suspicions about the cars.
                                   _ _ _ _ _
Any other Audiphobes out there?   (_)_)_)_)_)
From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Is Japan being fair ? (1/2)
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:29:54 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Delco Electronics Corp.

In article <1992Dec12.175048.15367@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John F Nielsen) writes:
>Is it wrong or unfair for Japan to support research and development?	
>If there was something to invest government money in, research and
>development would be the ticket.

I agree. But R&D subsidies are one of the many things happening there
that, if taken separately, all look innocent. Put together, they don't.

Boeing has been making the same argument regarding the AIRBUS. The 
private sattelite launch businesses in the US (i.e. none?) have made
the same argument about the French Ariane rocket...

Unfortunately, mention 'joint research effort' in the US and everyone
starts thinking antitrust. A few examples have come forward, like the
MCC in Texas or the USABC (advanced battery consortium) but by and large,
they are the exception rather than the rule. 

Spiros
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From: orr@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Ken Orr)
Subject: Re: FWD patrol cars (once Re: CHP Beretta(!) sighted)
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:35:37 GMT

In article <2400077@hpsad.sad.hp.com> eric@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Eric Lucas) writes:
>In rec.autos, kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist) writes:
>
>    In article <1992Dec7.160322.27875@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> LJ09735@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM (Jeff Schaefer) writes:
>
>    >On a related note, my cubemate got pulled over this weekend on I-280 near
>    >San Francisco this weekend by the latest CHP pursuit car....a Camaro w/Corvette
>    >engine.  Cop claimed it is being used for chasing the crotch-rocket motorcycles
>    >that frequently use that hwy for a racetrack.  Whether or not he was boasting
>    >we do not know, but the cop claimed the car has a tested top end of 157 mph.
>
>    Well, the crotch-rockets have top speeds of 185 mph and up,so what good
>    would that car do against a bike that is much more manueverable.
>
     ^^^^^^^^^^ Huh, where did you hear this ????? 185 and up ????? The fastest
     bike built is the new Kawasaki ZX-11 top speed @ 180mph. The other 1100's
     are quite a bit slower on top end. 

>Well, it certainly can't outrun a radio.
>                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I agree completely
>Eric
           

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From: mxm1003@s22.msi.umn.edu (Ram V. Mohan)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Engine does not warm (heat) up.
Summary: Engine did not heat up when on highway
Keywords: Engine does not heat up
Date: 13 Dec 92 15:52:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: msi.mxm1003.724261943
Organization: University of Minnesota


I've a 89 Mazda 323 with about 39000 miles on it.  We  were driving
on highway (normal speed of 70 mph) for about 75 miles and 
everything was fine.  We stopped at a McDonalds for about
25 minutes and proceeded.  At this time I noticed that
my temperature gauge was still at cold and has not reached the normal
operating temperature even after driving for about 10 miles.
We were not getting any heat in the car due to this.  It was
about 30 degrees with winds.  At this point I pulled over,
let the engine idle for some sometime and the temperature gauge
reached its normal operating temperature.  We started driving
again and the temperature gauge began dropping reaching the
cold regions.  The car and the engine was operating normally.

After this I took an exit and pulled into a gas station.  The
guy who looked at it said that the radiator fluid is flowing
normally and it warmed up when we idled the car again.  Since
it was not overheating and nothing could be done we continued driving
with the temperature gauge in cold region and no heat.  At idle
the car heats up and the fans work etc..

This morning I had to go to work (a distance of about 3 miles) with
a small stretch on the highway (~1 mile).  The car started normally
and reached its normal operating temperature by the time I arrived
at work, as it normally does.  It was about 30 degrees with some
freezing rain this morning.  I again idled the car and it
warms up fine, the fan works etc..  With this I do not understand
last night behavior.  One thing I noticed is that the heated
air coming out was not as warm as it used to be for the temperature
gauge position.

I dont know what the problem is.  Any suggestions and pointers 
are welcome to avoid running on cold engines and being without
heat on the cold days of winter.  Thanks.

p.s:  This morning I notice that the right parking light was not
burning and it did after pushing on it a bit.  Possible 
loose connection?.  Thanks
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: saaf@panix.com (Len Saaf)
Subject: Advertising fee and holdback for Probe
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 03:11:45 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Keywords: probe

I am very close to buying a '93 Probe. 

In the price negotiation I have based my offers on the "base"
invoice, in which I include the invoice price for the car itself, the
invoice price for  all the options, plus the destination charge.
These are the prices I have information about. (I have ConsumerGuide
Auto '93--I assume that Edmund's has the same info). 

What I would call the "true" invoice is the "base" invoice PLUS the 
advertising fee that is charged to the dealer by the manufacturer
MINUS the rebate or "holdback" that the dealer gets back from the 
manufacturer. Independent verification of the "true" invoice price
seems to be more difficult that shelling out five bucks for a
magazine. I want to base my offer on the true invoice because this
reflects more accurately the cost of the car to the dealer.

The Ford dealer showed me an computer printout of the invoice that
included a $250 advertizing fee. I plan to call some other dealers
tomorrow to see if I can substantiate this figure. Does this figure
jibe with you recent Ford purchasers?

During the negotiations I mentioned that I was aware of the holdback,
which amounts to about 3% of the invoice cost, according to what I
have read. The sales manager claimed that  there is no holdback for
the Probe, the Blazer, and another model that escapes me at the
moment. Can anyone verify this or discount it?

The discussions in rec.autos have been very helpful in my little
consumer adventure. I plan to report on it more fully when I get the
ribbons tied on.

LS

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From: takriti@engin.umich.edu (samer Takriti)
Subject: rec.autos.tech
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 18:26:10 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

A friend of mine has a Datsun 210 1980. We are trying to change the break
rotors (front wheels of course). For a strange reason (most likely rust),
it is impossible to remove the rotors. Does anybody have a good idea on
how to do that ?
Please reply via e-mail since I do not read this group regularly.
Thanks.
-Samer
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: smartin@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (steven.c.martin)
Subject: Ford Probe GT fuel type
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:21:47 GMT
Keywords: Probe fuel


Does the new Ford Probe GT require premium fuel?

				Steve


Newsgroups: rec.autos,misc.consumers,misc.kids,talk.politics.medicine,sci.med
From: esther@verdix.com (Esther Lumsdon)
Subject: Re: Seat Belts Releasing in Crashes: Institute for Injury Reduction
Organization: Verdix Corp
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:54:53 GMT

kathrynw%radian@natinst.com (Kathryn Whitworth) writes:

>May I point out that the passenger is also likely to sustain damage from
>the restraining seatbelts?  When I was totalled, I had as fine a collection
>of belt-shaped bruises as you could ever hope to see.  Complaining?  Hell, no:
>I walked away. 

>I'd say that medical notes indicating presence of bruises in the appropriate
>places would be decent proof that one was wearing a seatbelt.  I don't know
>how indicative absence of bruises would be.

I was hit head-on (at low speed, approx 20 mph) by a drunk driver in 1980.
I didn't have visible bruises from the seat belt, but those parts were extremely
tender for a few days.  My glasses flew off my face, and a bystander
had to help me find them (accident blew some fuses for lights in my
car; try finding your glasses in the dark, in your damaged car).

I've heard from a couple of nurse friends that the U.S. armed services
take some disciplinary action against servicepeople who get injured in
auto accidents while not wearing seatbelts.  I don't recall what action
is taken (this was ~ 5 years ago).  The net result of this is that emergency
room doctors who practise near military bases lie, and state that the
injured person was wearing a seat belt.
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From: chrisw@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Chris Wiles)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:25:33 GMT
Subject: Re: ford ranger 4cyl
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: rec.autos



	The 4 banger in the ranger is a 2.3l. This is the same
motor they use in the mustang. My ex had a 4 cyl stang. It has
over 104k miles. It runs pretty good. The small motor is really
working to move the car so frequent oil changes has added to the
life of the motor. The 2.3l motor is a tough little motor, underpowered
as it is. Remember this is the sam exact motor used in the SVO mustangs.
The svo is turbo charged with 14 psi and puts out 200hp. Thats 1.42 hp
per cubic inch, which is real impressive, not many motor today can
withstand that much power. A 350 chevy can get 1.42 hp per cube but
major money must be spend.

	Summary. IF mileage is what you want get the 2.3 but do
religous mantenance on it. But I would still recommend the v6.

chris WIles
//
From: greg.roberts@dwarp.sccsi.com (Greg Roberts) 
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Gumball exotics (was Re:
Date: 11 Dec 92 09:11:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Data Warp Premium BBS - Spring/Houston, TX - 713-355-6107
Reply-To: greg.roberts@dwarp.sccsi.com (Greg Roberts) 


AAPA}Speaking of police exotica, a brief news item claimed that South
AAPA}Carolina told BMW "thanks but no thanks" on that proposal to donate
AAPA}an M5 squad car.  Fact or folklore?

According to pictures and an article in the Anderson, S.C.
Independent newspaper, the Highway Patrol there will be using M5s for
patrol duty.

Alabama also has a gold colored "7" series BMW in service, complete
with light bar & State Trooper sticker on the door.  I have seen it on
patrol several times in Clark County, and once with a car pulled over &
writing a citation.
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