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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 12:00:47 EDT
From:         "Paul M. Karagianis" <KARYPM@SJUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Problem with "read/move" sequence.

  I just installed 92.01.01 this morning, and still have a (previous
but unreported) problem with "move".  Using "mail" the problem can
be reproduced by entering the command "read N" (Explicitly!  NOT by
moving the cursor and using PF2), followed by an explicit "move X"
(where X is an existing notebook), and hitting enter in response to
the building-the-index prompt.  The result is:
                              --------
Please give your installation's support person the following information.
MAIL/MAILBOOK error encountered
  Some variable in line 275 was used, but not assigned a value.
Line 275 is:
global.read_item+global.command_word;If global.read_item=0|global.read_item>Word
s(global.read_list) Then Do;Drop global.read_list global.read_item;If mail_optio
n.auto.update Then Call Update;Return 0;End;':'Word(global.read_list,global.read
_item);End
Mail logged in TEMP NOTEBOOK D0
    74 +++                          Signal Value(Translate(cmd))
   694 +++                         Call YCall
   697 +++                      Call Finish 32
   699 +++                     Call Flush
   198 +++                    Return Next()
   190 +++               rc=Delete()
    72 +++            Call XCall operands
    45 +++       Call Command
       +++       "TRACEBACK"
DMSREX463E Error 16 running MAILB00K XEDIT, line 74: Label not found
Ready(00032); T=12.47/13.43 11:12:01
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:46:36 -0500
From:         Stan Kerr <stankerr@UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      Configuring RICEMAIL

There  are some ways we would like to configure the new RICEMAIL to make it
more acceptable to our users, but I haven't been able to figure out how to
do it so far. Perhaps someone else on this group can provide a hint or two:

1. Can we recover the 2 lines of PF key tags that used to be displayed?
   In particular we feel it's important to display PF2 since it's heavily
used
   in reading mail. A novice shouldn't have to hunt for it.

2. For those who (a thousand pardons) detest the pulldown menus, is there
   some way to do a MENUBAR OFF in MAILUSER XEDIT? I tried the obvious and
   got an error message for my pains; the correct way of issuing the
command
   from MAILUSER escapes me. And, as an aside, shouldn't MENUBAR OFF remove
   the definition for PF10? If I don't want the menu bar, then it should
stay
   away (away away!) until I enter MENUBAR ON.

On another matter, where is the magic tool for uncompressing all the
RICEMAIL REXX source code? Since we are going to have to look at it from
time to time, such a tool is needed.
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Stan Kerr                     Internet:stankerr@uiuc.edu
University of Illinois        Computing and Communications Services Office
1304 W. Springfield; Urbana IL 61801                    Phone:217-333-5217
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 12:48:42 CDT
From:         "Richard A. Schafer" <SCHAFER@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Exit calling placement
              6 Apr 1992 13:30:15 EDT from <NJG@CORNELLC.CIT.CORNELL.EDU>

I'll have to disagree with Nick, here.  I believe that making mods
to the code in MAILOPTS is the *wrong* thing to do for most sites,
who shouldn't have to make source code changes to effect options
changes for their site.

Given the previous discussion, I will proceed to add another exit
point prior to bringing in the windowed options.  Unless I get
strong consensus otherwise (since the vast majority of sites have not
expressed any concern one way or the other, probably doing little
or no local option customization), I will call the added exit
point PREMENU/PRESEND/PREREAD.

Richard
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 10:56:49 EST
From:         "Scott Mattes" <COTRSSM@SEA04VM.NAVSEA.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      It would be nice if....
X-To:         Rice Mail <mailbook%ricevm1.bitnet@ricevm1.rice.edu>

  It sure would be nice if I could sort by all the fields that I can
specify in the profile/pull downs.  Like, what if I want to sort the
file on note order once I am already in the menu?

Scott       | No success can compensate for failure in the home. David O. McKay
Mattes      | President 1951-70, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 14:26:30 PDT
From:         Dave Gomberg <GOMBERG@UCSFVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Including entries from notebooks in mail body.
              7 Apr 1992 16:05:41 CDT from <SCHAFER@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>

But why should what you want to GET have to be a mail from a NOTEBOOK.
I want to get lots of things.  What about just permitting adding a file
to the ring?

Dave Gomberg    GOMBERG@UCSFVM  Internet node UCSFVM.UCSF.EDU  (415)731-7793
Seven Gateview Court, San Francisco CA 94116-1941
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:10:15 EST
From:         "Scott Mattes" <COTRSSM@SEA04VM.NAVSEA.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Using MARK, COPY, and PASTE.
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              9 Apr 1992 10:18:32 CDT from <SCHAFER@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>

On Thu, 9 Apr 1992 10:18:32 CDT Richard A. Schafer said:
>The CUTPASTE macro included with RiceMail is a descendant of the
>CUTPASTE macro that is on VMSHARE (or at least a descendant of an
>ancestor of the current version, since I haven't looked to see if
>it changed since I grabbed a copy :-).

  Probably the one I have is a spruced up copy of the ancestor of yours
also.  This one is in NOTE CMSWINDX and it uses windows for it's stuff
(like, when you mark a block, it puts a box around the part you marked.
And displaying the clipboard uses layered windows).

Scott       | No success can compensate for failure in the home. David O. McKay
Mattes      | President 1951-70, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 10:13:44 EST
From:         Dave Elbon <SYSDAVE@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Problem with Options Initial

I put in 92.01.01 and when I select Options Initial I get this:

Please give your installation's support person the following information.
MAIL/MAILBOOK error encountered
  Some variable in line 959 was used, but not assigned a value.
Line 959 is:
'Local domain',4 1 5 2,64,'LOCAL.DOMAIN',mail_option.local.domain;...
    74 +++                   Signal Value(Translate(cmd))
   694 +++                  Call YCall
   697 +++               Call Finish 32
   699 +++              Call Flush
   880 +++             Call SetOptions window.1
   985 +++           Return YCall(where)
    46 +++          Call HandleMenuBar
       +++          "TRACEBACK"
DMSREX463E Error 16 running MAILB00K XEDIT, line 74: Label not found
Ready(00032); T=3.45/3.68 10:03:54
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 10:02:53 CST
From:         Gerald Skerbitz <G-SKER@UMINN1.BITNET>
Subject:      Reply to sender impossible with Header OFF

I posted this a couple of weeks ago and got zero replies...(it was tacked on
a post with a different subject.)

  Has anyone else seen this?  With my READ Heading Option set to OFF, when
I reply to a note that came from the listserv, it won't find the SENDER
or REPLY-TO: lines and it insists on replying to the FROM: person.  Setting
my READ Heading Option to SHORT solves this problem.  Is this my problem or
MAIL's?

Thanks,
Gerry

Gerald   | UofMN Med School - Mpls.ph (612)626-5379  g-sker@vm1.spcs.umn.edu
Skerbitz | Loc:3-125 Owre.    Camp Mail:Bx 293 UMHC  G-SKER@UMINN1.BITNET
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 14:34:46 CDT
From:         Christian.J.Reichetzeder@AWIIMC12.IMC.UNIVIE.AC.AT
Subject:      Scrolling, Keys and Cursor position

I really get used to it :-) ...
Now a few points:
* I have this little  rodent attached to my 3472G and well, it'd  be nice if I
  could use it for  scrolling - doesn't need to be a  scrollbar :-), maybe the
  "- +" of More: ...
* Mouse again ... or  MenuBar ... when delete an item  (or switch windows) the
  cursor goes back to the command line. Now it's either press PF10 or move the
  cursor (and with the mouse you have to go all the way up, no wrapping) to be
  back where you last have been (i.e. the MenuBar).
  As it is now I have to leave  enough free space on my (rather small) desk to
  move the cursor  up-up-up ... using the  2nd hand to press PF10  is no valid
  choice because it is dedicated to the 2nd keyboard.
* Another related thing is whether ENTER could act as Open (PF2) from the menu
  when the cursor is on an item (and no read active perhaps).

Christian
P.S.: I saw two (minor) problems I am unable to reproduce at will:
  1) cursor is on  MenuBar but occasionally no selection is  done on ENTER and
     the cursor jumps to the commandline
  2) at some point mail ignored prefix commands. From the XEDIT queries every-
     thing looked ok but the weren't processed
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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1992 16:41:10 CDT
From:         "Richard A. Schafer" <SCHAFER@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Using MARK, COPY, and PASTE.
              11 Apr 1992 16:32:19 EDT from <NJG@CORNELLC.CIT.CORNELL.EDU>

On Sat, 11 Apr 1992 16:32:19 EDT Nick Gimbrone (WIRDI) said:
>>On Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:54:49 -0400 <jwagner@PRINCETON.EDU> said:
>>>Richard, Any chance that block vs stream mode could be added as a user option
>>>(even if it had to go in the MAILUSER XEDIT file)?
>Isn't this just a matter of the user altering the PF key settings in
>their MAILUSER to put the block option onto the CUTPASTE calls?

Yes, that would work.  However, making this work with the menus requires
more work than that.

>A related question would be if it is feasible to upgrade the CUTPASTE
>to include the windowing support someone else mentioned on the list...

Someone already asked this, I think, and the answer is almost certainly
yes.  I simply haven't had the time to look at them yet.

Richard
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 10:18:32 CDT
From:         "Richard A. Schafer" <SCHAFER@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Using MARK, COPY, and PASTE.

The CUTPASTE macro included with RiceMail is a descendant of the
CUTPASTE macro that is on VMSHARE (or at least a descendant of an
ancestor of the current version, since I haven't looked to see if
it changed since I grabbed a copy :-).

I took it, cleaned up a few problems that I found and made some changes
to do some things that were important for RiceMail (and which I
expect might be useful in general).

Richard
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:10:43 CDT
From:         "Richard A. Schafer" <SCHAFER@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Option Pull Downs in MAILBOOK

Yes, the options set for MAIL and MAILBOOK are separate, except as
modified by your MAILUSER or MAILSYS without regard to the command.

Richard
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 00:15:14 CDT
From:         "Richard A. Schafer" <SCHAFER@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The message window

Ben, if I'm understanding you right, that sounds like the bug in
CMS Fullscreen that I'm seeing that fails to scroll the window
to the bottom after clearing before it's popped the next time.

I've put an interim fix into the RiceMail code which should
take care of this until I can figure out how to show this to
IBM as a bug in CMS Fullscreen, which I'm sure it is.  The circumvention
will scroll the window to the bottom manually every time the window
is cleared.

Here's the way things *should* work: you scroll forward a window to the
bottom until you get rc=1, saying you've scrolled off the bottom.
Alternatively, you clear the window directly.  In either case, the window
now sits at line 1 (as can be seen by a query show on that window).  The
next time something is written to the vscreen, the window is supposed to
autoscroll to the bottom before popping to the top.  For some reason,
that autoscroll doesn't always happen, so the window pops at line 1.
Manually scrolling to the bottom bypasses the problem.

Richard
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:28:42 PDT
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From:         Melvin Klassen <KLASSEN@UVVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: mail92 & messages

John Wical <UNCJWI@LLUVM> writes:
>
>How do I update the screen?  The message is displayed in the CMSOUT window
>instead of on the message line at the bottom of the mail menu screen.
Enter the XEDIT command 'QUERY MSGLINE'. XEDIT will put a "few" messages
onto the XEDIT screen.  If you have "too many" messages, then XEDIT will
write the messages to the CMSOUT window.  So, use 'SET MSGLINE' to tell
XEDIT the value you consider as "too many".
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 09:16:17 PST
From:         John Wical <UNCJWI@LLUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Thoughts about Mail 92
              14 Apr 1992 10:01:02 EST from <COTRSSM@SEA04VM.NAVSEA.NAVY.MIL>

On Tue, 14 Apr 1992 10:01:02 EST Scott Mattes said:
>
>  I still get times when the cp msg window comes up and won't go away.
>Pf keys for quit or cancel aren't even displayes as being set in the
>window.

I have programmed my shift-F11 to do a window clear.  In my MAILUSER XEDIT,
I have: 'COMMAND SET PF23 window clear ='.  It works great for me.

>  I still find that I NEED a way on the menu to see who sent the mail
>after I have read it (or put it into another notebook).  For some reason
>I like to continue seeing that a mail item is from MAILBOOK or where
>ever.  The data is there in the UNREAD index, but I don't see a way to
>stop the FROM field from being changed to the from line of the note.

I, also, would like an option for choosing whether the FROM field or the
SENDER field (or some other field) would display in the From column of
the mail menu.

John
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:21:52 CDT
From:         "Richard A. Schafer" <SCHAFER@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Configuring RICEMAIL
              15 Apr 1992 16:46:36 -0500 from <stankerr@UIUC.EDU>

On Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:46:36 -0500 Stan Kerr said:
>There  are some ways we would like to configure the new RICEMAIL to make it
>more acceptable to our users, but I haven't been able to figure out how to
>do it so far. Perhaps someone else on this group can provide a hint or two:
>
>1. Can we recover the 2 lines of PF key tags that used to be displayed?
>   In particular we feel it's important to display PF2 since it's heavily
>used
>   in reading mail. A novice shouldn't have to hunt for it.

    You cannot easily get 2 lines of PF key tags because of XEDIT limitations,
unless you're willing to put (say) one of them where the message line is today
and leave the other one where it is, or do other drastic rearrangement of
the screen.  You can, of course, choose to put anything you want in the
bottom line of the screen (SET RESERVED -1), such as putting PF2 there.
If you modify the -1 line in your MAILSYS XEDIT, then Mail will leave it alone.

Of course, novice users might well find working with the menu bar closer to
what they are used to, if their previous exposure to computing has been
on a micro.

>2. For those who (a thousand pardons) detest the pulldown menus, is there
>   some way to do a MENUBAR OFF in MAILUSER XEDIT? I tried the obvious and
>   got an error message for my pains; the correct way of issuing the
>command
>   from MAILUSER escapes me. And, as an aside, shouldn't MENUBAR OFF remove
>   the definition for PF10? If I don't want the menu bar, then it should
>stay
>   away (away away!) until I enter MENUBAR ON.

   You can queue a MENUBAR OFF command.  No, I don't think that doing
   menubar off should reset the PF10 definition, but believe the current
   action, which causes hitting PF10 to resurrect the menu bar if it has
   been surpressed is the right one.

>
>On another matter, where is the magic tool for uncompressing all the
>RICEMAIL REXX source code? Since we are going to have to look at it from
>time to time, such a tool is needed.

If you're going to do work in the code itself, you'd be better off working
with the full commented source, which is available for the asking, then
learn to create source updates for your modifications.

Richard
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:56:38 CDT
From:         REICHETZ@AWIIMC12.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Problem with Options Initial
              14 Apr 92 10:13:44 EST from <SYSDAVE@UKCC.UKY.EDU>

On Tue, 14 Apr 92 10:13:44 EST Dave Elbon said:
>I put in 92.01.01 and when I select Options Initial I get this:
>
>Please give your installation's support person the following information.
Interesting ...  I had it  too, hacked MAILB00K  to run an  interactive trace,
didn't have  the error,  switched to the  original reaccessing  the production
disk and never again saw the error.
Christian
From: U08208@UICVM.BITNET (George Yanos)
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Subject: Re: Index Prompt in 92.01.01
Date: 12 Apr 92 15:44:28 GMT
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              11 Apr 1992 20:39:51 EST from <MAILMNT@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>

On Sat, 11 Apr 1992 20:39:51 EST John Hammond said:
 >   Now that there is a prompt for index creation, consider an option to
 >let us control whether we are prompted.  I'd like to suppress the prompt
 >and have an index always built.
I'd like to second this request.  One specific use.  I wrote an exec
to scan notebooks, find the biggest and oldest, and then move the oldest
notes from the notebooks to another notebook for archiving erasing.  It
takes a while to do this for all the notebooks, too long to want to watch
it.  The new index prompt stops the process until it gets an answer.
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:25:35 EDT
From:         "Nick Gimbrone (WIRDI)" <NJG@CORNELLC.CIT.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: MAILBOOK
              14 Apr 1992 13:51:41 EST from <SYSDAVE@UKCC.UKY.EDU>

>headers (I've had an exec of my own doing this kind of thing), but could
>there be a message indicating that some headers are hidden and how to
>display them?  And for the case of the truncated To: list, could something
>be added to the display indicating what happened?  For example:
'SET SHADOW ON' in your MAILUSER XEDIT should do the trick...
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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1992 12:03:14 CDT
From:         Harriet L Coleman 312-996-2479 <U35049@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Building indexes
              from "Richard A. Schafer" <SCHAFER@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>

THANK YOU, Richard!!
  .... for giving the ability to log with index-build.


   Harriet L. Coleman                            U35049@UICVM
   Systems Manager, Computer Center              U35049@uicvm.cc.uic.edu
   University of Illinois at Chicago             312-996-2479
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:22:23 EST
From:         "Scott Mattes" <COTRSSM@SEA04VM.NAVSEA.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      CUTPASTE error
X-To:         Rice Mail <mailbook%ricevm1.bitnet@ricevm1.rice.edu>

  I just tried CUTPASTE and got the following error (excuse me for
typing it in but it appeared in a CMS fullscreen display and I don't do
windows much);

1325 ++
 179 ++
error 18 running CUTPASTE XEDIT, line 1325, THEN expected.

  I had viewed a note, marked a paragraph, copyed the paragraph then
done a reply and tried doind a paste.  If it matters the paragraph was
saved on the clipboard as item #2.

  When does the bug fix release of MAIL 92 ship?

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Mattes      | President 1951-70, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:44:09 CDT
From:         "Richard A. Schafer" <SCHAFER@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Messages

On Tue, 7 Apr 1992 09:56:54 EST Kent Fiala said:
>I like it, but as a full-time (not just in Ricemail) user of fullscreen
>CMS, I don't like the fact that it destroys the CMS-defined STATUS
>vscreen and window.  Why not make up your own window named XMSG?
>Also, allow for people like me who move their msgline.

Hey, I called this a toy, right?  Make it your own as much as you like.
Admittedly, I think Kent's suggestion makes sense, but I want to make clear
that there is *NO* support implied by me for this thing.

Richard
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:35:49 CDT
From:         "Richard A. Schafer" <SCHAFER@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: mail92 & prompts

On Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:23:28 PST John Wical said:
>   When mailbook builds an index, it tells me so and it gives me the
>option to proceed or cancel.
>   Can I set it to ALWAYS proceed and not prompt me?

Not at this time.  I have said, however, that I'll put something like
this in at some point.

Richard
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:10:25 TUR
From:         Esra Delen - NAD <ESRA@TREARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Problems with 92.01.01
X-cc:         sysadm4@TREARN.BITNET

Hello..
Its me again, with new release MAILBOOK problems.. I just received
and installed the newest release with the fixes (92.01.01) but there
seems to be something wrong. Not every time, and not from every VM,
this happens: After the user sends the mail
DMSITP143T Operation Exception occurred in DB78E2 in system routine
 RXUSERFN, re-IPL CMS
RXUSERFN MODULE we use it dated 05/15/90, 11:36
Also in some VMs, in MAILBOOKing, the EXIT (PF3) locks the VM and IPL
should be done..
Any ideas?? Thanks in advance!!
Esra
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 10:41:53 PST
From:         John Wical <UNCJWI@LLUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: mail92 & messages
              14 Apr 1992 11:34:41 EDT from <NJG@CORNELLC.CIT.CORNELL.EDU>

On Tue, 14 Apr 1992 11:34:41 EDT Nick Gimbrone (WIRDI) said:
>You can always put the XEDIT subcommand into the stack:
>   queue 'MSG' "msg text here"

How do I update the screen?  The message is displayed in the CMSOUT window
instead of on the message line at the bottom of the mail menu screen.
After issuing the MSG, the screen needs to be updated.  REFRESH doesnt work
because it is a MAIL command.

John
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