From: dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Johnny-boy wants to play too! (was Re: Baggett goes Ballistic)
Date: 16 Dec 1992 21:24:47 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
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In article <15881@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>Thanks for the explanation about propogation delays.  I'm sure that 
>the freshmen reading the group will find it quite informative.  

You're quite welcome.  Clearly some of the egomaniac "veterans" don't
understand them either.

>Read it about seven years ago.  Maybe it's changed a bit since then.

Well, how about doing us all a favor and reading it again.  It's OK
to be nice to people on Usenet.  Really.

>Nasty?  It was in fact quite informative.  Stanley Clark is hardly 
>representative of great jazz bass players.  Even great black jazz
>bass players.  Anyone that limits their listening to jazz bass players
>to Stanley Clark and doesn't listen to Charles Mingus is doing themselves
>a disservice. 

Ha ha ha.  I laugh in your face.  This is the most pitifully lame
attempt I've ever seen at justifying a sardonic, obnoxious posting with
only a pretentious one-liner as its content.  And here we go with the
"we're so cool, we know so much, you are obviously not as in the know
as we are" schtick.  I was wondering when you'd get around to dragging
that little ploy out.

Sorry, you lose.  You have no idea, especially not from what I wrote
(which had nothing to do with any of your comments), whether or not I
think 1) Stanley Clarke is representative of jazz bassists, 2) whether
or not I restrict my listening to jazz bass players to SC, OR 3)
whether I listen to Charles Mingus on a regular basis.

You see, you're following up without having read the original note.
Which strongly suggests what is already obvious: the only reason
you followed up to my post is because you didn't like me picking
on little Ray, your net.buddy.

Grow up.  Read my post and learn that I was simply answering a
question:  who plays bass for Animal Logic.  It was a two-word
followup that Ray felt compelled to reply to with one of his
typical pretentious, contentless, snide one-liners because I'd
actually bothered to respond to one of his flame-boyant posts with both
considered argument and a request that he try to be a bit less
obnoxious when dealing wiht people he disagreed with, mainly because I
was getting tired of seeing this newsgroup turn into a playground for a
bunch of self-impressed bullies.  (Sorry, I am obviously asking too
much.)

>Once again, Ray, in his own style has brought up the name of an artist
>that anyone with a real interest in a particular form of music should
>listen to.  For that he should be commended and not accused of being
>nasty.

I suppose, then, you'd commend me for saying:

"Fuck you, you pig-headed ignorant sone of a bitch Charles Mingus
bastard cheese-eating dirtball who rapes hamsters.  I ougtha take
you out back and burn you alive, you're so ignorant."

Hardly.  Doesn't work that way.  You post disgusting crap and inject
someone's name and you don't magically correct your gaffe.

Jeez, do you really believe what you're saying?  Do you realize how
slavish you sound?  "All hail Ray."  Give me a break.  

>Nobody's braggin'.  If you don't know about Charles Mingus and you're 
>talking about jazz bass players you don't know shit.  

And you still don't know *what* I know about Charles Mingus, do you?
(Hint: the answer is "no" because you haven't bothered to consider
anything I've written.  You *assume* that there's no way I could
possibly have as much or more musical experience than you or Ray.
People call this "arrogance" and "magalomaina.")

"If he flames Ray, I flame him."  Your policy.  Again, grow up.  
Oh, and by the way, try to lose the silly .edu site predjudice too.
I've been on Usenet as long as you have.

Dave Baggett
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