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From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: M/C Prices (plus tax, lic, freight, doc., etc., etc.)
Date: 22 Jul 1992 14:48:12 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 7499@public.BTR.COM, jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com) writes:

>He was so busy making
>sure the world noticed him that he never noticed the 10%-25% NC we tacked
>on his bill. It was because of him that we had pizza once/week instead of
>once/month. :-) 

So because you didn't like the way the guy acted, you robbed him.  Only
you didn't have the balls to do it to his face, so you took advantage
of his inherent trust in your employer (whom you not only betrayed, but
placed in grave liability) and just cheated him.  Years later, you find
this behavior so appealing you brag about it on a worldwide forum.

Asshole.

ObWarning:  Read your bill carefully.  I've personally had three
waitors fired for bullshit like this, two as a customer, and one as
"his" busboy.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: spencer@hailwood.asd.sgi.com (Paul Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Tires: Metzler 55a vs 99a
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:00:30 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA

blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com says:
> 
> The ME88 was supposed to replace the ME99,

Typo.... the ME55 was supposed to replace the ME99.

....paul

-- 
Paul Spencer                  Silicon Graphics Advanced Systems Division
spencer@sgi.com                                Mountain View, California
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: patlo@microsoft.com (Pat Loughery)
Subject: Re: New Bike Financing Advice Sought.
Date: 31 Jul 92 00:35:53 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

In article <5244@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu wrote:
> noah@astro.as.utexas.edu (Noah Smith) writes:
> : 	3) Many banks offer "unsecured personal loans". They may
> : 	   have slightly higher interest rates (?) But the loan
> : 	   could be for an arbitrary amount.
> :
>    The big advantage/disadvantage with unsecured loans is that the
> title is not held.  You can sell/wreck/burn the bike and the bank
> doesn't care.  You still have to make the payments on time, so
> if you decide to go the cheap route on insurance and you wreck or
> have the bike stolen you are SOL.

The interest rate will be higher on an unsecured loan (the bank's way
of making sure it makes money on the deal, even if you default). 
An unsecured loan will be tougher to get if your credit rating is
damaged.

             ==================================================
            // Pat Loughery [Patlo@Microsoft.com] Seattle, WA \\
+===========//'91 Nighthawk CB750 || DoD #393, AMA #639366, VME \\==========+
|Evaluating for post-Jan purchase: Duc 907ie; HD FXRT & FLHS; Triumph Trophy|
+===========================================================================+
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: wbetts@mpx1.lampf.lanl.gov (Betts, Wayne J.)
Subject: Re: Please wear a helmet
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: LAMPF Data Analysis Center, Los Alamos, New Mexico
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 05:12:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.030905.18345@javelin.sim.es.com>,
 blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes...
#wbetts@mpx0.lampf.lanl.gov (Betts, Wayne J.) writes:
# 
#>While I agree with the economic arguments for helmet wearing laws
#                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
# 
#Wow, things really are getting out of hand. I knew that riders had to
#wear helmets, but this is the first I've heard that laws had to wear
#them too. Next thing you know, legislators will be required to wear them
#too.
#-- 
#Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108

As for most legislators and politicians, I for one could care less if they
ride without helmets.  They seem to have sufferred head injuries already,
based on their actions.  Maybe a few knocks on their collective heads
could have a few positive results for this place we live in.  Of Course: 
*-) (hey, a cyclops can smile too), 8-] 8-) 8-} :-] :-) :-}, hee hee.

Please remember the main point of my original post.  Your loved ones
will appreciate it.


Wayne Betts ('80 Yahama Enduro, but wanting more)


Discalimer:  Since I have no idea what's going on around me, and nobody ever
talks to me, these views and opinions must certainly be mine alone
(or perhaps they come from the demon that talks to me incessantly, 
but nobody else seems to hear.)

All personnel report to fire control stations!  
From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:46:32 GMT
Subject: Re: Get your feet on the GD pegs.
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

In rec.motorcycles, slndw@cc.usu.edu writes:

> However... you _CAN_ get a ticket for not putting your foot down.  
 
Here in Colorado, they will write tickets for failing to put down your foot
at a stop. 

> Funny thing is, it is possible to touch your foot to the ground 
> while still traveling forward.

Yup.  I do it all the time.  Sometimes at >30mph.  Leaned over, back end
sliding.  Don't try this on the pavement :-)

-Jeff Deeney-  KotD #0000  DoD#0498    NCTR    '88 XR600-Shamu   
jld@hpfcla.fc.hp.com       AMA#540813  COHVCO  '81 CB750F-Llamaha 
We don't stop riding because we get old, we get old because we stop riding.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: rec.motorcycles.harley
Keywords: don't break up guys ! STAY AS ONE !!!!
Organization: Bit Herders International
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:24:08 GMT

In article <Jul.23.15.48.23.1992.6616@andromeda.rutgers.edu> naik@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Raghunandan Naik) writes:
+....
+I have been following the attempts to form a new group " rec.motorcycles.harley"on
+ the net and I have a few things to say about it.  
+.....
+
+	3) We cannot afford to break up into even smaller groups.  

But you have not been following on news.groups (where this discussion
belongs) very closely or lately.  The feeling among the "Pro new group"
people is that it is not a split.  Most Harley types don't read this
group or left because of the huge volume of stuff they are not
interested in.  A new group will give them a home.  Those harley people
that are on this group will stay here if they are interested in
non-harley topics.  Probably most of those here already.  So, it is not
a split, but an addition.

+	5) I personally have nothing for or against forming a new group...

Yes you do!  Since you are urging everyone to vote "NO", you are 
certainly against forming a new group.

+	   ... and when you do start a new
+	   group, be ready to accept the fact that you yourself have decided
+	   to be different from others and if others treat and consider you to
+	   be outsiders and different you are responsible not them !!!!   

When we bought motorcycles, we decided to be different from others.
When we bought Harleys, we decided to be different from others.
Others currently treat us differently.  That is our choice.

============================================================================
	"David rode in Triumph throughout the land"
		-- Biblical reference to motorcycles
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Paul D. Blumstein, paulb@tti.com, DoD #36, ABATE, AMA, HOG, KD6LAA, LS/MFT
         Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: New Bike Financing Advice Sought.
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:01:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson) writes:
: >noah@astro.as.utexas.edu (Noah Smith) writes:
: >: 	ANY COMMENTS AND/OR ADVICE WELCOME (e-mail or Usenet).
: Try your local credit union.  The UVA credit union thinks that
: bikes are just cars.  Consequently, they finance them just like
: cars and at the same rates.  Two weeks ago I was offered 6.99%
: for a 24 month note and 8.2% on a 48 month note to purchase a
: new Harley.

   Damn!  How come everybody else has a credit union that offers
good deals but mine won't make car loans longer than 3 years and
their rates are worse than the banks and they won't finance more
than 75% etc, etc.  Do I have the only screwed up CU in the world?

--

*******************************************************************************
* Bill Ranck     DoD #496  ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu                            *
*******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: pooder@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Don Fearn)
Subject: Re: Help me with my seat, please!
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 11:22:26 GMT
Reply-To: Pooder@vnet.ibm.com, but I can't receive e-mail, so forget it. 
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <1992Jul22.170005.3921@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, wsh8z@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (William Scott Heyman) writes:
|> 
|> What is the cheapest way to fix this? 

I put a Travelcade seat cover on an '82 450 Nighthawk.  It cost about
$40 (with 6% tax) through Dennis Kirk.  It had a drawstring, but I
put it on with pop rivets.  This is probably not the cheapest way to go,
but it worked very well, indeed.

-- 

    Pooder    -    Rochester,  MN   -   DoD# 0591  (I think)   -  LotN 
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Quid tibi (est) opiniones aliorum: What do you care what other people think?
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
   I share garage space with:   Gretchen - '86 K75   Harvey - '72 CB500 
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ssuhouns@susssys1.reading.ac.uk (Paul Marshall Hounslow)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: two miles from home (was Re: Cops show- Motorcycle wreck)
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:34:32 GMT

blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
 
>[everyone yammers on about their favorite stereotypes]

>But everyone seems to have missed my favorite accident-causing
>stereotype. The deaf & blind elderly driver, often manifested as old men
>with hats, or old ladies with hair nets. One of them drove over the
>front of my sister's cage last night. Of course this tale gets you two
>stereotypes for the price of one, since my sister is a teenager.

I got a good one.  Saw it in local paper.  Old man runs a motorcycle cop over
at a roundabout.  Says to cop "Sorry I didn't see you."  Not a good thing to
say :-)  Cop says "Oh, can you tell me the registration of that car over there."
Car about 20 yards.  Old git says "What car!"  Turns out he was almost blind,
"But it's alright, as my wife normally sits next to me and tells me where to go.
But she's not very well, and I'm just going to get her medicin."

Strainge but true.

This was in a place called Worthing, on the south coast of England.  Something
like over 70% of the population are over 65.


----
73's de Paul                         The smelling pistakes are all my own.
Packet: G4YFY@GB7BEQ                 I have no employer (I retired ;-).
EMail:  ssuhouns@susssys1.rdg.ac.uk  1985 K100RT                 DoD #0573
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: aki@nimbus@UUNET.UU.NET
Subject: Re: DoD gif, bitmaps, rasterfiles, etc.?
Organization: The World Bank
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:24:01 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.151141.9633@javelin.sim.es.com>
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
>grm@druhi.att.com (G. R. Martinez) writes:
>
>>Anyone have any of the above you are willing to email?
>
>You can ftp them from cerritos.edu, or if you can't ftp, then e-mail
>server@cerritos.edu. The file aaareadme.txt has descriptions for all
>the files.
>
>Or in Bruce "Scanner" Tanner's own words:
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>The address is server@cerritos.edu.  The commands are given in the body of
...(lots of valuable information deleted..)

hmm...I just tried to download some of the GIF files and got an access
violation for everything except the readme files...think probably the
file protections been changed?

Who's the contact at cerritos.edu that I can e-mail to check for me?

*************************************************************************
                                    *
-aki                                *   A tank of gas, a pair of
DoD#0628                            *   gloves, a helmet on my
------------------------            *   head and a motor between
Disclamer: Comments are my          *   my legs..folks, it don't git
own..my employer doesn't            *   no bettern' this....
understand them...                   *
*************************************************************************
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet laws, abortions and why national health care is a Bad Idea.
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:04:17 GMT
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <SLAGLE.92Jul29233944@sgi417.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com> slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com writes:
...
>but that is not a matter of policy.  No hospital will
>turn away an emergency case where the patients life is
>in immediate jeopardy.  They can be held legally liable 
>if they do.

Given that the patient was turned away because s/he appeared
to be poor (and assuming that's the case), who's going to take
legal action against the hospital?  Hospitals generally have well-paid
attorneys on retainer, if not on staff.  Most poor folks don't.
So unless there is an extremely blatant case, of proportions sufficient
to convince the ACLU* to step in, the chances of any legal consequences
are minimal.



*For those outside the U.S., ACLU == American Civil Liberties Union,
 A civil rights organization which sometimes takes legal action on
 behalf of victims of civil rights violations who cannot afford to do so.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dlady@duncan.cs.utk.edu (Don Lady)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: those damn orange vests
Date: 22 Jul 92 02:06:18 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - Department of Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: dlady@duncan.cs.utk.edu (Don Lady)
NNTP-Posting-Host: duncan.cs.utk.edu

In article <JET.92Jul21120905@win30.nas.nasa.gov>, jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
|> 
|> Sigh.
|> 
|> Now that I drive on federal property (Moffet N.A.S.), I have to buy
|> one of those orange safety vests.  Me, I'd rather have to put a big
|> orange whip antenna than wear a flappy plastic vest.
|> 
|> So, the question is, who makes *sturdy* safety vests?  Does anyone
|> know how the ordinance is worded?  I'm curious as to whether or not a
|> bright orange/red/yellow jacket would count as a "safety vest".  (Or a
|> orange/red K1... :-)
|> 
|> I'm in the south bay area, in case you feel like giving pointers to
|> local stores...
|> 
|> --
|> J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
|> '91 CB750, DoD# 0378

-- 
Look for the address for ConSpicuity vests (sp?).
Some of the bike magazines should have an advertisment.
Or, call/talk to an MSF instructor, our local ones buy
them by the case. I'll see if I can get the address and cost
data  to post.

Don (dlady@cs.utk.edu) Lady       University of TN, Knoxville
These are my mailings and thoughts, not UTK's!


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis)
Subject: Re: Bendix brake pads???
Reply-To: megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:17:21 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.161757.7075@znext.uucp> erika@znext.uucp (erik astrup) writes:
|	What's wrong with getting some EBC's??? 

  Well, for one thing, they are shit... :-)

  IMHO, of course - but I won't put another set of EBC's on *my* bike.  Either
the stock pads or Ferodo's from now on.  Haven't tried SBS, yet, and probably
won't, since I wasted $50 on *trying* the EBC's.

Randy Davis				UUCP: megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot		 	      ucsd!megatek!randy
DoD #00013
From: mja@philabs.philips.com (Michael Amato)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Dead Sidestand switch
Keywords: Sidestand switch
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:23:41 GMT
Reply-To: mja@philabs.philips.com (Michael Amato)
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff, NY 10510
Originator: mja@hercules


In article <mtrost.712343614@convex.convex.com>, mtrost@convex.com (Matthew Trost) writes:
|> In <Jul.28.11.56.14.1992.7146@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kcchu@gandalf.rutgers.edu (The Beach Bum) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> >I noticed the oddest thing yesterday.  My sidestand kill switch
|> >dosen't work anymore!  Don't ask me how I know, but it dosen't.
|> >the bike runs fine and I took everything apart last night and checked
|> >the wires and everything is connected.  It's probably been this way
|> >for awhile since I don't for get very often, or I might have happened
|> >yesterday. I am going to check the wireing diagrams tommorrow, but it
|> >dosen't make sense to me as to why the bike runs.  The switch "clicks"
|> >unlike when my brake-light switch went out so maybe it's not the
|> >switch.  Does anyone know how how these things work?  If the switch
|> >malfunctions is there a backup circut that takes over?  I don't want
|> >to be running down the road and have the bike decide that the
|> >sidestand is down when it isn't!  (Could be really dangerous)
|> 
|> >BTW: I totally disconnected the switch and the bike still ran, even in
|> >gear.
|> 
|> >Thanks for  any advice,
|> >Keith
|> >-- 
|>  
|> What? I never heard of a "sidestand switch"? What logical purpose could
|> this serve, anyway? Do you have "wheel is ajar" lights too?
|> 
|> I would de-activate them asap!

My 83 Suzuki 1100 has a side stand switch. It is hooked up to a warning light
on the instrument pod, warning you if it is down - not that I find it very
useful. For newbies it will probably save some embarassment.
It is not interlocked to the ignition circuit. Why should it be? On cold
mornings I always start my bike before getting on to let it warm up.

|> 
|> Also, don't forget to unlock your fork before taking off, or you'll be 
|> riding around in circles all day! (sorry! just had to!)
|> 
|>
From: martin@adpgate.UUCP (Martin Golding)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: New $$$=New bike?
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:12:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: adpplz.1467
Organization: ADP Dealer Services R&D, Portland, OR

jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu (John Sloan) writes:

: Trust me. Take the $40K you were going to spend on the Bimota and buy a
: H-D Fat Boy, a BMW R100GS, and a Ducati 907IE. Not only will this drive
: all your motobuddies completely bloody mad (me included), but you'll
: have a bike for all occasions. And you have a few kilobucks left over.

I'd like to toss my proverbial hat into the proverbial ring on the side
of large numbers of used motorcycles (your new job will supply adequate
mechanicing funds, no?)

Instead of getting just _one_ bike that does everything adequately
(FJ, BTW. But what's the point?) get _lots_ of old used motorcyles,
each targeted to a particular purpose. There are some service requirements 
based on time instead of mileage (brake fluid, washing) but in general only
your insurance goes up, and there are steps you can take to control even that.

And people will come from miles away to borrow your Ducati.


          Martin Golding           |        BMW R100/7  "Britt"
 DoD #236  BMWMOA #55952  WMTC #2  |  BMW 750/6/2+Ural  "Treaty of Leningrad"
              KotP                 |     Ducati 860 GT  "Mouse"
  There's always More,             |         Honda 150  "Dreamboat"
    That's what More _means_!      |         Yamaha R5  "Dead Ringer"
[motcsd!]mcspdx!adpgate!martin     |     Yamaha XV750J  "Julia Tiberius"
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Nicest Interstate
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:11:34 GMT
Distribution: na
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

gt1430a@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeff J McCoskey) writes:
: 	Another great stretch of asphalt is the Pennsylvania turnpike
: between Harrisburgh and Pittsburgh.  While PENNDOT is notorious for letting
:
You gotta be kidding.  I always tell people the longest distance between any
two points is the Pa. Turnpike.  Of course I'm only familiar with the
part from Philadelphia to Harrisburg(h?) and the Northeast Extension
   Now in the old days, when you got on the Pa. Turnpike it had signs
saying "Speed limit none, drive at own risk". That would make it tolerable.
 
: 	I suppose Blue Ridge Parkway has already been mentioned 
: as well.  (Same Mountains, different state.)  My run there featured

Read the subject line, Interstates only in this thread.  I think the BRP
is already in the great roads list.  If not it should be.  In a few hours
I'll be heading for the BRP and the Right Coast Ride.  Hope the rain holds off.

Bill Ranck

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ltp@uswest.com (Halfman-Halfmachine)
Subject: Re: Your Favorite Gear
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:58:45 GMT

>In article <daved.711838092@convex.convex.com> daved@convex.com (David Dorfman) 
>writes:
> The question is, What is your Favorite Gear:

I've been pretty pleased with AXO and HiPoint in the dirt; HG Vpilot
and some Custom chaps on the street. I figure that as long as I have
two wheels under me and it's WFO, I'm in my favorite gear all the time.

-- 
Larry T. Paine	ltp@advtech.uswest.com	 U S WEST Advanced Technologies
   DoD#789   	   AppleLink: AM053	    4001 Discovery Dr.  #180
		   Voice: 303-541-6148	    Boulder, CO. 80303		
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tp0x+@cs.cmu.edu (Thomas Price)
Subject: Re: Rant, etc
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 20:02:22 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

>>What do you all consider the minimum reasonable displacement for highway
>>riding?
>
>I'll hazard a guess that for "real" highway riding you're better off
>with at least 500 cc.  My 650 is perfectly adequate for me.

I have gotten into a habit of taking weekend trips from Pittsburgh to 
Washington DC, about 260 miles one way. I don't pay attention to how long 
it takes me to reach the city limits, but my destination (for those of you 
who know the city) is in the Adams Morgan section, a few blocks from Rock 
Creek Park, and my best time door-to-door was 5:16.

I ride a kz440; realistic top speed about 95, powerband >5500 rpm. I cruise
most of the way at ~70. I can get it up to 85 when I have to without
much problem and can cruise at ~70 without much problem. I'm sure that
If I ever rode a bigger bike I'd become unsatisfied with mine, but I haven't
and the point is that it's adequate. If it weren't, I'd know it whether I
had another bike to compare it to or not.

Oh, the KZ440LTD is a 6-speed. Maybe the extra gear is what makes my 
trips possible.

Tom

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  tp0x@cs.cmu.edu   |   Mr Ethical   |     Tom Price, Obscure Dropout
  1981 KZ440LTD     |    DoD #518    |  	  I'm the DoD.
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