From: atfurman@cup.portal.com (A T Furman)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.guns,alt.individualism
Subject: Re: Libertarians ARE Liberals (was Re: Perot for President)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 16:02:25 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa
  <1992Mar30.055147.11728@Princeton.EDU> <22572@goofy.Apple.COM>
  <1992Apr9.171811.17931@acsu.buffalo.edu> <14APR199218161972@jane.uh.edu>

>>It is very very wrong to see Libertarians in the same light as
>>Liberals!!!!!!!!
>> 
>
>But we ARE liberals. We are, in fact the only liberals in America. 
>
>'LIBERal' used to mean what the name implies - supporters of individual
>'LIBERty' against the arbitrary power of the state. That's us, and
>its probably why we kept the first five letters in 'LIBERtarian'. The 
>term "liberal' is still used in this old sense in Europe, and most of
>the free market reformers in Russia and Eastern Europe call themselves 
>'liberals'. Those who oppose (i.e hard-line communists) are called
>'conservatives'. 

The root cause of all this confusion is that we are dealing with two
different languages: English and Newspeak.  Newspeak has a word with
the same spelling and pronounciation as the English word "liberal", but
with a different meaning.  In much of the West, especially North America,
the Newspeak word, which means "an economic police statist", has
supplanted the English word.

This substitution is a textbook-quality example of Newspeak in operation.
Look in the Appendix to Orwell's novel _Nineteen Eighty-Four_ and you
will find an assertion that the statement "bb is ungood" would be
impossible in Newspeak.  This is because the State, represented by
Big Brother, and value (the standard of "good"), are one and the same.
There is no concept available to someone who truly bellyfeels Newspeak
that there can be such a thing as a PERSONAL value.  Newspeak is part
and parcel of the process of obliterating all thought of individual
rights, including property.

In like manner, the concept of live-and-let-live, the consistent respect
for the rights of others, the realization that wrong does not become
right because the majority says so, everything that the English word
"liberal" means, has been drained from the Newspeak word "liberal".
Anyone who knows only of the Newspeak work "liberal", and not the
English word "liberal", has no epistemological "handle" for that concept.
Such a person is easily brainwashed into believing in the bogus
"left-right political axis".

As much as I would like to use the English word "liberal", I never do,
because most people would confuse it with the Newspeak word "liberal".
Nor do I bash "liberals" (Newspeak) by that term, because
I would appear to advocate abuse of those rights that "liberals" DO
(selectively) recognize in their doublethink.  Instead, I always use
"libertarian" to mean "liberal" (English) and "social democrat" to mean
"liberal" (Newspeak).  

The social democrats want it both ways.  They advocate the enslavement
of the productive, while cloaking themselves in a term (liberal) that
is supposed to mean an advocate of freedom (FREEDOM IS SLAVERY).  They
claim to advocate peace, but they actually advocate warfare of the
parasites against the producers, fought with the guns of the State
(WAR IS PEACE).  And until the libertarian movement manages to explain
to the public how to get their minds out of the left-right elongated
cesspool, they will continue to get away with it (IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH).


   Alan T. Furman           |       Vote Libertarian--Marrou/Lord in '92
----------------------------+--------------------------------------------
   atfurman@cup.portal.com  |  Stamp out signature viruses!  Pass it on!
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.elections