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In rec.autos, beuf@wpi.WPI.EDU (Richard J Fuller) writes:

*   I bought a new car in August for $9,450

*   I just got my local tax bill and it was based on a 
*   valuation of $10,200..

*   What right do they have to claim my car is worth more
*   then it is worth to tax me on a higher value???

What right do they have to tax it at all?  They are bigger than
you and they seem to be getting away with it.  That's all the 
right they need.

*   also I was wondering if My insurance Company uses the same
*   valuation techniques my town does.  meaning if I can buy a car
*   for 9450, get into a horrible accident where someone else is at 
*   fault and take their valuation fo 10,200-500(deductible) = 9,700 
*   a $250 profit for owning the car for a short while????

Most likely.  I friend of mine bought a car for $1.  He drove it
for a couple years and sold it, I think for $200.  The person who
bought it was in an accident and their insurance company paid them $900.

Frank Ball   1UR-M          frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com
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From: ujmli@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: LH: first drive
Date: 24 Nov 92 04:37:19 GMT
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1erob6INN2ev@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
> 
>
> But..and a HUGE one from my standpoint, and, possible, others as well, is
> that i have never seen an advert for one with a stick. does anyone out there
> know if they come with the 214 motor, and a stick? or are you stuck with
> the auto, much like the Bonneville..beautiful car, no stick, T'bird takes 
> it! if the SHO doesn't!..just curious!
> DREW
> -- 

I think it was in Road and Track magazine that they mentioned that the cab
forward design made it so that there isnt any room for a clutch petal. And
they're working on a stick for the next model year.

Speaking about cab forward, how come Chrysler made such a big deal about cab 
forward in the advertisements? I think its no big deal.

Jason
From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Experiences with Pickups
Date: 18 Nov 1992 06:39:57 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
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In a previous article, barham@medtronic.COM (Bill Barham) says:

>I am planning to buy a used full-size pickup.  I am thinking about going with
>a diesel engine.  I would like to here about good and bad experiences with
>full-size pickups, gas and diesel.
>
>Thanks,
>Bill Barham        email:  barham@urel.medtronic.com
>
you want power? go with the dodge cummins...got passed by one of these 
once..(one time i was at the SL!!)...going up  hill..i pulled over to 
allow him to pass me...40ft cattle trailer, loaded, mind you, and all 
promptly pulled away up the hill(about 20 degrees, maybe?)...i was
impressed right there!...that, buddee..is some power, especially for a
diesel!
DREW
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From: wwein@scott.skidmore.edu (warren wein)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: highly desirable cars not sold in the US (was INFFINITI vs BMW
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:14:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: scott.1992Nov16.211452.1534
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
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Chin-Ming Kuo (cmkuo@cs.utexas.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Nov13.164652.27209@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> fengxi@prancer.eche.ualberta.ca (Fengxi Zhou) writes:
: %%TVR Griffin
: %%Caterham Super 7

	The Caterham Super 7 is rumored to be imported by a small
company in the Boston area.  There was an article about them a few
years ago in Road & Track.  I've been looking, but still have not
found the company.

wwein@skidmore.edu

: %%Renault Clio
: %%Aston MArtin Vantage
: %%Alfa Romeo SZ (tastefully ugly)
: %%Toyota Aristo
: 
: 
: Aristo is coming to US as LEXUS G300. IMHO, this is the first hit of Lexus
: in the styling category.
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From: sontakke@helix.enet.dec.com (Vikas Sontakke)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: HOW TO AVOID HITTING THE WALL IN GARAGE
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:03:40 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Just pick up few feet of a scrap 2X4, and lay it in front of the front wheel.
Also mark its position on the sidewall, in case the 2X4 moves.  If it is long
enough and if you approach your car slowly, it won't move at all.

Then you get some stick on rubber molding and put around the garage side wall
to work as your door edge preserver.

It works for me!

Vikas Sontakke		Digital Equipment Corporation, Maynard MA.
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From: philn@mothra.rose.hp.com (Phil Nielsen)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:14:52 GMT
Subject: Re: Tempos and Loyales, Info needed
Organization: HP Networked Computer Mfg. Operation
Newsgroups: rec.autos


>>I'm in the market for a 4 WD car with a good bit of space.  I would like some
>>input on the Ford Tempo ('85, 24K mi).

>>I am unexpectly having to get a car in the very near future (like a week and a
>>half) and saw these models in a dealer's lot during my first tour.

>Forget the Tempo from Hell the 2.3L engine shakes so hard that things break
>left and right in the engine compartment.  The new V6 version maybe better.


This is utter nonsense; I have 90K on an '85 Tempo, and nothing has broken
left or right in the engine compartment.  My dad traded his '84 with 130K+
and did only routine maintenance.  Or did we just happen to get the good ones?

If you get an '85 Tempo, make sure it has the most recent injector and
ECA module (better performance and emissions), and the latest distributor 
module (early reliability problem).  These were both no-cost service
programs (aka recalls) several years back.

24K is pretty low miles for an '85 Tempo.  Was AWD available in '85?

Phil Nielsen
From: keys@starchild.ncsl.nist.gov (Lawrence B. Keys)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: How to remove tinted window film
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:07:45 GMT
Organization: National Institute of Standards & Technology

In article <1992Nov19.225433.2742@medtron.medtronic.com> barham@medtronic.COM writes:
>Does anyone out there have any tips for easily removing tinted window film
>from glass windows?  I have used a razor blade to scrape it off, but it is
>a very slow process this way.
>
>Thanks,
>Bill Barham      Medtronic Micro-Rel, CAE/CAD Support  602-921-6439
>                 email  barham@urel.medtronic.com

I had my windows tinted recently.  Before they began applying the tint
i asked the installer if the tint could be removed later and how.  I was
told that the tint could in fact be easily removed on all except the rear
window (because of the defroster) using a razor blade and a high temperature
heat gun.
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From: dclayton@bnr.ca (Don Clayton)
Subject: Re: Whining about buying American cars
Reply-To: dclayton@bnr.ca (Don Clayton)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:40:43 GMT

In article <19NOV199209523290@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov>, kimnach@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (GREG KIMNACH) writes:
|> In article <2179@shaman.wv.tek.com>, andrew@frip.wv.tek.com writes...
|> >Let's drag it out into the sunlight.  You'd rather help feed a kid from
|> >Detroit than a kid from Tsutsumi.  Is this not racism?
|> 
|> No, it's patriotism.

Which is a far more dangerous problem than racism.

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From: chenh@neptune.ecs.csus.edu (H. Philip Chen)
Subject: Re: HOW TO AVOID HITTING THE WALL IN GARAGE
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 05:57:26 GMT

ehsan@attila.UUCP () writes:
:
: hi, I am sure a lot of people have a similar problem. Where can one buy
: blocks of cement/concrete so that we know how far to drive a car into
: garage. similar to one found in parking lots?
: thanks.

Probably have to send the car for wheel alignment more often than 
necessary.  Why not just selectively hang a tennis ball from the 
ceiling as a reference?  When your vehicle taps on it, that'll be 
a good time to stop.  That tennis ball isn't gonna hurt the car.
(Can also use the garage shelf's column/support or some other fixed 
item(s) near your driver side window as a visual reference.)


-phil
From: Siddharth.Soni@launchpad.unc.edu (Siddharth Soni)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: '65 mustang for sale
Date: 22 Nov 92 21:57:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

In Westchester, NY
off the road for four years now...
descent body, some putty dtectable...
runs fine, but runs hot after about 1/2 hour 
(timing problem?)
interior is very descent but not original(radio,pony seats,dash cover)
new:brakes,alternator,tires,
frame is sturdy, never rusted like crazy.

EMAIL: ssoni@csnext.colgate.edu

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From: rex@eng.umd.edu (Rex Root)
Subject: Re: Q: Effects of "Gas-guzzler" buy-ups
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 19:55:42 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Nov19.185921.2080@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> robinson@next532-2 (Scott Robinson) writes:
>Lately I've been wondering what the effects are of these pollution  
>control programs that some states have that buy up older cars just to  
>get them off the road.  I don't know of any such program locally  
>(Maryland), but I did hear that Virginia is considering it.  I'd like  
>to get some opinions from states that do have such programs.  More  
>specifically:
>1. What is done with the cars?  Immediate total destruction? Or is an  
>attempt made to salvage useable parts first?
>2. How are the availability and prices of the older cars affected?
>
 I wondered this as well when I heard about Virginia's proposal ... I
then began wondering if the state would refuse re-registration of vehicles
of a certain or older age. They could do this if the buy-out proposal is
not successful.  Frightening thought for the collector who wants to drive
to the shows.

Just my $.02

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From: kevin@cyber.net (Kevin R. Sanders)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: Any '65 Lincoln Conv. owners out there?
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:01:36 GMT
Organization: The Cyberspace Station

Hello car fans,

I recently bought a '65 Lincoln convertible, and am hoping there
are others on the net with similar vintage cars.  Looking through
a copy of Hemmings it appears there are several outfits supplying
parts for these cars; are there any other sources that are worth
looking at?

Also, and this has been bugging me since I got the car, what the hell
do you do if the trunk lid mechanism fails to work?  It appears that
you have to get inside the trunk to fix it, but how ?!    Mine works
OK now, but I'm just paranoid.

I really like the car, nothing like sheer mass to give the truly
awesome ride.
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From: rgrodr1@pb2esac.uucp (Robert Rodriguez)
Subject: Re: PowerGlide
Keywords: Transmission, Chevy
Organization: Pacific*Bell ESAC, Oakland, CA.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:59:01 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.135719.19282@mcnc.org> brooks@mcnc.org (Ted Brooks) writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.220139.24710@pb2esac.uucp> rgrodr1@pb2esac.uucp (Robert Rodriguez) writes:
>>Does anyone know which year(s) Chevy made an aluminum PowerGlide
>>for their 235 C.I. straigt six ?
>>
>>Robert
>
>
>The answer is...none!
>
>The aluminum Powerglide became available in 1962 on the 327, and all engines
>in 1963. The 235 was produced through 1962.
>
>Ted Brooks

Thanks Ted.  I also found out that '63 was the first year Chevrolet made the
bolt pattern the same on the 6's and V8's.

Looks like I'll have to get an adapter (last restort) to bolt up an
aluminum PowerGlide (or TH350) to my `59 235.

BTW:  Hope you don't mind my stealing your idea for the signature. :-)

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Subject: Re: '67 restoration questions
From: michael@sunbeam.ksc.nasa.gov (Michael D. Myjak x7-3286)
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:57:33
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA, Kennedy Space Center, FL.
In-reply-to: mhorning@zeus.calpoly.edu's message of 19 Nov 92 23:08:11 GMTLines: 53




      william@chopin.udel.edu (Wild William) states
   >  >I have a '67 mustang [...]
   >  >Is it possible to put GT parts on a non-GT and subseq make it a GT?

Technically a GT is a GT because its data plate says so. I did this to
a '68 conv. and I can tell you just about everything you'll ever want
to know about doing this (or any other) mustang conversion. IMHO, the
conversion from drum to disk brakes was by far the hardest...
primarily because Ford used different sized brake line fittings on
each end of each brake line. Only problem was, they were reversed for
Drum and Disk systems. Guess Ford didn't want some knucklehead getting
the disk brake master cylinder confused with the drume brake one. Most
everything else is either mechanical, electrical or cosmetic.

   Mark E. Horning (mhorning@zeus.calpoly.edu) writes:
   >Yes there was no mechanical difference between the gt and stock
   >versions, different paint, different chrome not much else.
   > [...]
   >Mark E. Horning, Physics

Stick to physics Mark, This is not correct. The front sway bar on all
'65 through 68' GT mustangs (and I think this is true for those
through '73 as well) is different from that found on the standard
models of the same years.  Furthermore, as other posters have noted,
there is a plethora of additional options that may or may not have
been found on the GTs...  such as disk brakes... which could not be
ordered on the standard mustangs and are indeed "mechanical" in
nature.

   >Also, who made the original 4-barrel carbs and are they available NOS or
   >even brand new?
   >Motercraft made some, others were made by damn i cant remember... 

On the '67 stangs... you will find Motorcraft and Holly 4bbls. One
Holly part number is list-3270 (if I remember this right...) and its a
dual feed, vacuum secondary setup. Its part number indicates that it
was sold to dealers and was used in factory installations.  I seem to
recall it being a 720 or 750 CFM unit. Damn... its been a long time
since I had that pony! I also seem to recall that Carter made carbs
for Ford as well, but I don't recall if those were 4bbls or 2bbls...


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From: burton@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Rex Burton)
Subject: Re: '69 Mustang Vacuum System Drawing?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:59:07 GMT


I ordered a wiring diagram (includes vacuum diagram) from FAXON 
cost = $15.00  ups = $3.95  I also ordered the five volume shop manual
at the same time, price = $59.00 (may be cheaper at dragich) 
anyway this was for my 1970 torino.  hope this helps.  -rex

ps. faxon ph # 1-800-458-2734

Burton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
From: SYSOP@HEATHER.hanse.de (Michael Grube)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: Columbo's car
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:40:18 +0100
Organization: Heather Heart Mailbox, Germany
X-Version: UUCPfZ V2.9a

will@WIXER.CACTUS.ORG (Bill Staniewicz) schrieb unter 'Columbo's car':

> What is the make, model and year of the
> car that the tv/movie character Columbo
> drives? What is the value of that car?

I'm not sure, but I'd say sumptin' like late 40's Ford? Or maybe early 50's?

Mike

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From: rgrodr1@pb2esac.uucp (Robert Rodriguez)
Subject: PowerGlide
Keywords: Transmission, Chevy
Organization: Pacific*Bell ESAC, Oakland, CA.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:01:39 GMT

Does anyone know which year(s) Chevy made an aluminum PowerGlide
for their 235 C.I. straigt six ?

Robert
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From: ammann@cs.sfu.ca (Ammann Manuel)
Subject: Re: Info wanted: Citroen 7CV
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:13:12 GMT


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From: bell@apple.com (Mike Bell)
Subject: Re: '67 restoration questions
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:14:26 GMT
Reply-To: bell@apple.com (Mike Bell)
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <BxvDwu.Gq1@news.udel.edu>, william@chopin.udel.edu (Wild William) 
writes:
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
> Path: 
> 
gallant.apple.com!mumbo.apple.com!apple!agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.
ohio-
> state.edu!darwin.sura.net!news.udel.edu!chopin.udel.edu!william
> From: william@chopin.udel.edu (Wild William)
> Subject: '67 restoration questions
> Message-ID: <BxvDwu.Gq1@news.udel.edu>
> Sender: usenet@news.udel.edu
> Nntp-Posting-Host: chopin.udel.edu
> Organization: University of Delaware
> Distribution: usa
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:00:30 GMT
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> 
> I have a '67 mustang and hope to Re-Restore it in the near futre...
> 
> so I wonder, the first time we re-did everything we basically took
> the almost cheapest route, now I want to do a first class job.
> 
> Is it possible to put GT parts on a non-GT and subseq make it a GT?
> 
> and if so, what parts?
> 
> Also, who made the original 4-barrel carbs and are they available NOS or
> even brand new?
> 
> 
> Whew.
> 
> Thanx...
> 
>  
> 
> -- 
>          
> William York
> william@chopin.udel.edu
> (302) 453 8147


The people at Mid County Mustang in Eagle, PA. (Not to far off of Route 202) 
just restored my 67 Dlx. Coupe for me. They can probably tell you all you 
need to know about converting a standard 67 to a GT.



 -Mike


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From: lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gerry Swetsky)
Subject: Re: Charter of this group
Keywords: What is it??
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 05:26:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.215825.23146@viewlogic.com> brad@buck.viewlogic.com (Bradford Kellogg) writes:
>
>In article <1992Nov19.011512.10592@vpnet.chi.il.us>, lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gerry Swetsky) writes:
>
>[stuff deleted]
>
>|> Rec.autos.antique shall NOT be for the discussion for the non-stock
>|> modification, customization or souping up of antique autos.  It shall
>
>I would be inclined to question this. As an owner of an Austin Healey, I
>read much literature on this and other marques, and non-stock modification 
>is a very frequent and widely accepted practice. It was even done by the 
>manufacturers themselves. 

    How can you question this?  We set up the charter, it was agreed on
    and voted on.  The group passed and was created.

    It has nothing to do with your Austin Healey.  It's what the
    Usenet folks wanted!  Perhaps we should start another newsgroup
    named rec.autos.antique.modified.

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