From: JALEIT01@ULKYVX03.LOUISVILLE.EDU ("FIFI LAFUME ", SEXIUS SKUNKIUS)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Re: Toon Rap (Was RE: Gang Busters)
Date: 17 Apr 92 14:39:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.215548.24286@midway.uchicago.edu> rjung@sal-sun16.usc.edu
(Robert A. Jung) writes:

>In article <1992Apr16.233517.3034@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> app45293@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (ZUSS) writes:
>>sado@ellis.uchicago.edu (Rob Sadowski) writes:
>>>I originally listed this one as one of the worst (and it seems that
>>>net.opinion agreed with me for the most part) but after seeing it again
>>>today, I have a somewhat more favorable opinion. ...
>>>Does anyone else think that this one could have been saved by some better
>>>animation and a more practiced job by the voice actors on the last act ? 

>>  Well, I wouldn't rate GANGBUSTERS as the all-time worst episode ever, but I
>>sure would stick it in the "bottom half". The concept had potential -- lawyer
>>jabs, judicial jabs, jailbreak gags. Yank out the rap ending and build up some
>>of the jokes from earlier, and it might'a worked. Being animated by Kennedy
>>didn't help any.

I'll agree to that.  The animation didn't seem right in GANG BUSTERS, a little
to jumpy maybe.  I kind of liked GANG BUSTERS though, Its not the greatest but
it was a nice little episode.

>>   I don't find rap in *any form* to be distasteful.  I actually think some
>>rap artists are very good (emphasis on "some").  However, any time I see
>>rap used in cartoons, sitcoms, advertisements, etc. I want to puke.  It
>>seems impossible for writers to use rap in these situations without making
>>it seem like a shameless stoop to appeal to rap fans.

>  I don't see why a well-animated rap can't be just as funny as a
>well-animated "contemporary" song (cross-reference with TINY TOON MUSIC
>TELEVISION). Problem with the TTA raps we've been subjected to are that (a)
>none of the voice talents seem to have an attribute for rap (yet), and (b) the
>lyrics to the raps that have been done stunk.

Agreed.  Even though we haven't heard all the actors try to rap I'm willing to
bet that not many (2 or 3) could really pull it off well.  Maybe if they did
get better lyrics more of the actors could rap better than we've seen/heard.

>  The only exception to this has to be "Me So Bunny" from "It's All
>Relatives"/PLEDGE WEEK. Good voicing, good lyrics, too short. 

"Me So Bunny" has gotta be the funniest rap I've heard this side of "Weird Al". 
It was too short, but maybe if the writers keep comming up with lyrics like
this we might see/hear more rap.  I like to see parodies of rap, don't ask me
why. :-)

>Maybe a TINY TOON MUSIC TELEVISION II could use a quality comedy rap. I
>recommend "Weird Al" Yankovic's "(Gilligan's) Isle Thing", or the unreleased
>"Wappin'" (Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd rap-alikes) for possibilities...

"Isle Thing" would be close to perfect.  Funny, easy to listen to, and it has a
great situation going on in the lyrics.  I could easily see something like this
happening to any male member of the cast (except Hamton).  Put TMS on animation
and it would be a classic.  "Wappin'" would be an interesting choice, but I've
only heard it once so I can't really comment on it.

>						--R.J.
>						B-)

P.S. If you couldn't make heads or tails of this post, don't worry I can't. :-) 
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