From: lefty@apple.com (Lefty)
Subject: STEVE FRANKLIN STRIKES OUT!
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:29:02 GMT
Organization: Our Lady of Heavy Artillery

[N.B. This thread was originally titled "STEVE FRANKLIN STRIKES BACK!" and
subtitled "(moderately funny for me anyway)".  I leave it to the reader to
judge the universality of Mr. Franklin's sense of "humor".]

In article <BsuHnn.582@cs.dal.ca>, franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (<<<***Steve
Franklin***>>>) wrote:
> 
> In article <lefty-110892103039@lefty.apple.com> lefty@apple.com (Lefty) writes:
> >
> >Gee, Steve, then why do you keep begging for some kind of affirmation from
> >your betters?  I can repost your email to me insisting that I concede your
> >superior intellect, if you like.
> 
>   Heh - Lefty, I did ask you to concede to a superior being.

Sorry, Stevie, you cewrtainly don't qualify on the first count.  I
entertain serious doubts as to whether you even qualify on the second.

> However, this was not for MY benefit but yours. No longer should you remain > in your "LeftyLand" where all sorts of wierd things happen... This is one
> wierd land where Lefty thinks:
>    a) he has friends
>    b) he is intelligent
>    c) he is important
>    d) he is going to be remembered 20 years after he dies
>    e) he is happy...

I'm personally baffled as to how you might be privy to information on any
of the points listed above.  Oh, you're just _making_ _it_ _up_?  I see.  I
understand how important it must be for you to try to bolster yourself up
by attempting to drag others down, but try not to mistake your fantasies
for reality, Mr. "Subliminal Psychology Major".

> Then, back in Reality, what these 5 fine points can be interpreted as is:
>    a) he has a computer, gifs, and lots of porn

Strike one.  I don't do porn.  Reality is much more intriguing.

>    b) he could beat the pants off of a house plant when playing chess

Strike two.  I never was able to get the hang of chess so I don't play it
at all.  I do hold a shodan in go, however.

>    c) he controls entire armies (only on his little IBM video games however)

Strike three.  _Obviously_, I don't do IBM, video games or otherwise.

>    d) he will be found 20 years after he dies ("Man, the smelll")

You might want to spend a little time thinking about what this assertion
says about you.

>    e) he is happy (because he thinks he is in LeftyLand)

As distressing as you will no doubt find this, I _am_ happy.

> I was trying to conk you back into Reality Lefty.

Tell me about "reality", Elvis.

> >> I do not need my self-image nourished by the likes of you.
> >
> >If that's the case, I don't understand why you get so upset when I refuse
> >to nourish your self-image.
> 
>    Because I pity you. I don't want you to nourish my image, but to
> acknowledge your lowly one. see?

Hmm.  Stevie, why exactly would this be important to you?

>    I'm not weaseling in the least Lefty. I do not suck up to individuals.
> If I was looking for reconciliation and approval from the net, I would not
> agree with one of the more unpopular individuals on the net.

Except for the fact that you're so utterly transparent that anyone one the
least shred of discrimination whould unhesitatingly advise you to go play
in heavy traffic.  Kevin, on the other hand, will let anyone toady to him.

By the way, look up the word "reconciliation".  It doesn't mean what you
apparently believe it does.

> Instead, I would be *ugh* sucking up to people like yourself. Unfortunately, 
> I find you putrid, embarassing, tiresome, and DOTHAYA-like 
> (Dropped-On-The-Head-AT-a-Young-Age)

Oh, no doubt.  Which is almost certainly why you display this childish need
to impress me in some fashion.

> >Well, all I can say is that accusing child-abuse victims of being child
> >abusers doesn't constitute what _I_ would consider to be entertainment, but
> >obviously you have a different outlook here.  I shudder to think what else
> >you might find entertaining. 
> 
>    You know my feelings on that. I have no sympathy for a child-abuser,
> and I have no sympathy for any such acts of agression, sexually, or
> mentally motivated. However, the fact that Sue's spouse/boyfriend was
> vague on a post, and then that this fact was pounced upon by the 
> Pro-Choice-Anti-Anyone-who-chooses-against-them group from talk.abortion.

What _are_ you babbling about?  The only ones who apparently found the post
"vague" were Darcy and you.  Even Suzanne Forgach, who has a specific
gravity exceeding that of granite, was unable to misunderstand that post.

The only one who "pounced" on it was Darcy; the only one who defended him
was you.

> See? I do not think Darcy meant what you intend.

Opinions obviously vary.

> Then, facing against a group of ASCII-hounds like yourself, he responded a 
> touch poorly. All I know, is that he apologized...

Hmm.  I suppose you could also say that after breaking into that dormitory
down in Florida, Ted Bundy "responded a touch poorly".  Kevin's subsequent
posts have demonstrated that his "apology" isn't worth the electrons it was
carried on.

But tell me this: why do you feel so impelled to act as Mr. Darcy's
apologist here?

> >As I said to you in email, why don't you assure me of something that I
> >might possibly _believe_?  Assure me that you haven't got the faintest idea
> >what you're babbling about.  Assure me that you're so desperate that you'll
> >follow up anything I post.
> 
>    Here's your assurance.

Well thanks for sinking beneath my expectations, Stevie.

>    I take offense to the fact that my writing is abominable and blurry.

If the fact that your writing is abominable and blurry offends you, you
should certainly make an effort to improve it.  As it is, you come off as
being barely literate.  And you claim to be a graduate student?  I can't
help but wonder how you even made it into college with language skills so
completely deficient.

> I pride take my writing in.

Heh.  I this hardly can believe.

> I don't expect people to take me serious in posts like this.

If I were you, I wouldn't expect people to take you seriously in _any_ of
your posts.  And of course, they don't.

> However, there are times when I have posted with utmost in seriousness.
> I guess you missed these, or they didn't correspond with your views.

If you're referring to your "contributions" to alt.fan.warlord, then I
certainly missed them.  If you mean the drivel you dumped into alt.sex, I
can only wonder what a _moral_ fellow like you might be doing there in the
first place.  Other than exercising your homophobia, I mean.

While you may _post_ with the "utmost in seriousness", I assure you that no
one can _read_ what you post that way.

> >I can imagine that you must be having just _reams_ of fun making a visible
> >idiot of yourself on a worldwide basis.
> >
>    YOu realy think I"m a visible idiot do you?

I see your reading comprehension matches your writing ability.

> You don't think there are even a few people grinning at this post?

I'm quite sure.  Unfortunately for you, they're not laughing with you,
they're laughing _at_ you.  But I'm sure you must be used to that, Stevie.

> >Gee, Steve, you claim to know all about my job.  Why don't you tell me how
> >old I am, and tell me my salary while you're at it.  By the way, who tells
> >me that I'm a loser, other than you and Kevin?  Not a terribly reliable
> >group of witnesses, I'd say.
> 
>   The question is Lefty, who talks to you besides me and Kevin? I see
> little exchange between you and anyone beside me and Kev. In fact,
> *warning, scary thought follows*
> Me and Kevin are the closest thing to friends you have on USENET. UGH

Please, don't kid yourself.  I _don't_ want to be your pal, Stevie.  No
matter how much you'd like it.

> >The fact is, I _do_ enjoy beating the crap out of a pea-brained,
> >big-mouthed twit such as yourself.
> >
>    Why don't you try doing this then? I haven't even seen you try.
> Instead, you act like an ass most of the time. No, multiple asses.
> You are an Anii.

Gosh, Stevie.  That _was_ impressive.  I _do_ live in terror that you might
actually say "Neener, neener, neener!" to me one day.

> Answer the question. Answer the question. Answer the question.
> How old are ya Lefty?

Hey, you've made claims about my job, my friends, my life.  Since you're so
omniscient, it shouldn't be a problem for you to determine how old I am.

> >"We"?  Are _you_ a group, too?
> >
>    Well, I'm not really a group. Just one individual. However, I am
> contemplating the creating of a group. You've been elected as an
> honorary member, because we feel sorry for you.

I can see that you and Mr. Darcy seem to have a lot in common.  Neither of
you seem to be sure whether you're individuals or groups.  Very curious.

--
Lefty (lefty@apple.com)
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