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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 07:21:00 PST
From:         Emily Horning <ECZ5EJH%UCLAMVS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: Keeping you guessing...

> And what exactly is Marilyn, the mystery woman, doing in Tokyo?  Other
> than sending mail from Akio's office, that is.
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

She was going on a two-year <I think> sabbatical with her husband, with stops
in Asia and Africa and perhaps other places. We exchanged some private mail on
things to do and see in Africa. Perhaps she'll hook up with Bill Louw too??

But it doesn't look as though she'll be joining Karen and Karsten and I around
Thanksgiving 8-(.

Emily
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:55:12 EDT
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: HELLO!

Doug Llewellyn of the People's Court.  I always wonder if someone is
going to get so mad at the questions he asks, that person will pop him one.

Evelyn
From: TA0SHK1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815))
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Date: 6 Nov 92 02:04:00 GMT
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:     And no one has mentioned coming into New York from the north on Amtrak,
: where the train does a sharp left turn over the Triborough Bridge, laying out
: the whole long panorama of Manhattan before you (without the smell, to boot).

If that train goes onto the Triborough Bridge, there will be a heck of a crash.
Amtrak use the Hell Gate bridge, a great steel arch right next to the Triborough
Bridge.  The view from the train is pretty good.

Pedantically yours,

Steve Karlson
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:40:16 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: The Gospel Truth
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There now.  *That*s what I call Christian Spirit.  Giggles I can respect.

G
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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: The Democrats and Me
Date: 13 Nov 1992 05:12:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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In a previous article, jboor@MOTE.CS.UMB.EDU (Joan Boorstein) says:

>
>In catching up on back mail -- not done yet -- this discussion of
>11/23/63 and recent elections -- I had the following thought/question:
>
>What happens if Clinton dies before his inauguration?  Is Gore inaugurated
>as President?  Is there a constitutional provision for such?
>
Like the other replies said, Gore is sworn in first as VP, then as President,
both on January 20th.  When it would get *really* interesting, IMHO, would
be if one of the main candidates died during the campaign....  I've always
wondered what would happen if say, the Republican candidate dropped dead
of a heart attack a month before the 1996 election.   

Does anyone know what would happen then?  I think it nearly happened once,
when Teddy Roosevelt was shot while campaigning on the Bull Moose ticket.
I'm not sure if that's when it happened; my book with all that stuff in it
is currently inaccessible.:-/

-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
			- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:31:07 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Insurance help
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Dorisann,

She can join AARP for $5.00. They do have a wide variety of reputable
insurance carriers who sell special policies to their members, and I know
several people who have benefited from that service. The reputation of
AARP's carriers is so good that a number of scam operations try to make
themselves look like AARP in order get themselves into older people's good
graces and rip them off.

It seems like you would want to contact the Social Security Admin. and see
about getting her enrolled in Medicare. She may qualify either under her
own SSN or that of her husband. Also, she may be able to receive other
types of benefits from SSA. The Texas Dept. of Human Services administers
Medicare, and although it is a mondo hassle to fill out all the paperwork,
she might be able to qualify for assistance from that agency too. If your
father was a Veteran, the VA also can provide help with medical bills and
may even pay her a small pension.

The high-dollar way to handle all this mess is to pay someone like a CPA
to do all the research and paperwork for you; the way most do it is by
waiting in interminable lines. You can handle most of the SSA, VA, and THS
stuff by phone, if that's any comfort.

One strategy a LOT of people use is to get themselves enrolled with
Medicare, then purchase a "Medigap" policy from AARP/Hartford. My
experience is that there's not much that can happen in a hospital that
isn't covered by that combination. As for regular office visits and
prescription meds, that falls under a more conventional policy. However
AARP does offer a neat prescriptions by mail service which can save a lots
of money.

-abh
From: TA0SHK1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815))
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Subject: wheels and wings
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:09:00 GMT
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I've got an interesting documentary series running on the Discovery
Channel, "Wings of the Luftwaffe."  Things you learn: tonight's
feature is the ME-323, a six engine transport that looks like
an early visualization of the 747.  Last week's feature was the
AR-234, a jet bomber that made its takeoff roll on a big tricycle
that stayed on the ground.

Next hour is "Red Express," a six-parter on the Trans-Siberian.
Got to start planning that trip too ...

Steve Karlson

Fotografier lokomoteev?
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: Danger
Originator: rita@eff.org
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:00:01 GMT

In article <WORDS-L%92111008034950@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM writes:
>>P.S.  The list didn't fall apart then.  It's not gonna fall apart now.
>>Let's hear it for Portland '93.
>
>How did I miss this?  Of course the attacks were ad hominem.  Graham
>at one point during the height of the Project H fiasco, suggested that
>Jim Thomas and I were lovers.  No, I did not save the posting, but I'm
>sure it exists someplace, and I don't feel libeled or slandered: merely
>educated....

	Oh, man, I missed that one!  That's what you get for deleting
flamewars unread, tho, I suppose.  Quite the gem...

	Well, yes, I do believe the list is ready for another
get-together.  We've finally gotten over all the how nice we are to
each other phase that made the list insipid for a while, and are
really ripping one another's throats out over the stupidest things
(such as the feasibility of shipping a VAX 11/750 to Africa) we can
collectively imagine.  A flamewar on emacs vs. vi or the pc vs. mac is
about all we need to finally cross the line from being "something
special  oooh baby" to just another Usenet group.  As my letter from
the U.S. Equestrian Team told me, "just a little bit extra from each of
our members will put us over the top...."

	But those aren't really good reasons for a new get-together.
The best is that many of the old regulars have left the list, and we
have a whole new batch of physicalities to meet!   Last summer, I had
met nearly all the regulars.  Now I think I've only met a fraction of
you.  Not that I'm going to help with the SalmonBake or anything -- I
have a wedding to plan (actually, I have two -- I'm a bridesmaid for a
friend of mine who is getting married a few months after me).

Rita
"Swing low sweet chariot..."


-- 
Rita Marie Rouvalis              rita@eff.org 
Electronic Frontier Foundation   | And he spun himself right down 
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Cambridge, MA 02141 617-864-0665 | lucky?  --Deadsy 
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 11:39:00 LCL
From:         Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM
Subject:      Re: Today
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>Oh, do you remember
>The fifth of November?

     Penny for the guy, mister?

     Now you've gone and done it, judith -- twirled the dial on my
     mental radio station.  <bsquawk static hiss bweep>

        It was the third of December
        That day I'll always remember
        Cause that was the day
        That my daddy died (yes it was)...
        WOH WOH WOH PAPA WAS A ROLLIN STONE MY MY MY

     Damn.  Now where was I...

     Carol
From: AMM@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (ann mandi)
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Subject: Re: Long weekend (3) -- the party and return home
Date: 7 Nov 92 00:13:34 GMT
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Frosty the Snowman, eh?  You DID take pictures didn't you neal?


>One last thing...  Way back on the drive to Philly, Amy and I got to wondering
>whether Europe or Britain has autumn colors as spectacular as those in the
>northeastern US.  If not, did the Mayflower Puritans write anything about the
>incredible beauty around them,

Maybe they didn't have the chance to see such autumn color as we've had
this year.  The leaves have been as colorful as I've ever seen, and the
spectacular color lasted for an unusually long time.

ann mandi
owner, STATLG-L@BROWNVM  Baseball (and Lesser Sports) Discussion List
bitnet:  AMM@BROWNVM     internet:  AMM@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU

'No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball.'
-- Connie Mack
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 08:07:04 EST
From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Catching up I: slide rules
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>I still own my simple slide rule that I used from junior high well into
>college (yes.)  I'm inheritor, so to speak, of my dad's K&E Log Log Duplex
>Decitrig (Tony and Dan will understand) with personalized slip case (no belt
>attachment) and the 1947 and 1955 editions of the instruction manual.

<sigh> I gave my K&E log log simplex trig to my son when he
started junior highschool...SOMEHOW he managed to do something
terrible to it (dropped in on the street and a car ran over it?
left it in NYC?) and I wound up with just the beautiful leather
case coming back to me, and living in a drawer in the kitchen for
another five or six years. I kept thinking I would think of
something to carry in it, but never did...gave it to the Sally,
I guess...

>Steve Karlson

judith
From: ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU (Dan Lester)
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Subject: top secret?
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:35:54 GMT
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howcome I cant change directories to Salmonbake93, Natalie and Bernard?
are there official state secrets in there?
how about the true story of irancontra affair?
or the true story of the Neal Bush / Tipper Gore affair?
Or the Dan Quayle and Princess Di affair?
Or the real location of Elvis' flying saucer, which is NOT in Hangar 17?

dan
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:40:05 EST
From:         "(Rashmi)" <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Establishment (was legislating)
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              "BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU" at Nov 12, 92 9:39 pm

> >> Oh, you floccinaucinihilipilificatrix you!
> >> G
> >it, and neither does the on-line webster.  I like to understand the name
> >I'm being called.  :-)
> >rashmi
>
>    Someone who renders something worthless.  (RH2)
>
>    brad

Thanks, Brad.

Wow, Graham!  Working Antidisestablishmentarianism into the conversation
is one thing, but you appear to have done it with flocci-whatever as well.
Guess I must belong to the illiterate generation.

rashmi
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:06:53 CST
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Croning
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A friend who rode with me from Huntsville to Knoxville today told me that
she had recently been to a croning party in celebration of somebody's 50th
birthday.  It involved drums, bead, chants, woods, etc.  Sounded kind of
like a female version of Bly's drumbeats in the woods.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1992 10:39:57 EST
From:         Bill Merrill <ST401601@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 16 Tons
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>Tennessee Ernie done wrote this song
>But the pea-picker done sung the words all wrong
>
>Chris "What can I say, this is how I learned it" Schmidt

OK, Chris, get your fingers a-snappin'.

   Sixteen tons and whadda ya get
   Clinton and Gore and deeper in debt.
   George Herbert was rejected, so praise the Lord;
   He ain't much better than President Ford.

Bill "I sold my soul to H. Ross Perot"
From: AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU (Entropy Warrior)
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Subject: Re: The Democrats and Me
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:31:33 GMT
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>If he dies before the electoral college meets, the electors are free to cast
>votes for whomever they want. If it is AFTER the electoral college meets, then
>Gore becomes president (though he may have to be sworn in as VP first, I have
>no command of the niceties).
>
>                            b.c.

The electors are free to cast their votes for whomever anyway, I believe.

And in fact, Clinton is not yet even the President elect.

-K

-Mka
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: The Democrats and Me
Date: 5 Nov 1992 23:27:41 GMT
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In a previous article, maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU ("Natalie Maynor") says:

>
>I heard that he gained weight during the campaign.  That struck me as odd.
>I would have thought that weight loss would be more likely when living
>under that kind of pressure with that kind of hectic daily schedule.  I
>wonder what he was eating.

Bush supporters most likely!:-)  Reagan Democrats' votes, and the occasional
baby, just for dessert.<grin>  Just one more petty dig for the road - his
hair looks like straw, probably a result of too much blow-drying and too
many dye jobs.:-)

>
-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
			- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
	      Where anything can happen, and it usually does
From: BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
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Subject: Re: 486dx time
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:33:31 GMT
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Somewhat related to Dan's 486 question:

I notice in today's WSJ that "closely held Digicom Systems Inc.,
Milpitas, Calif., said Prodigy plans to sell a new 14,400 bps modem
that Digicom has developed....  FOR $199.... The new modem, which is
based on a chip set developed by Analog Devices Inc., Norwood, Mass.,
includes fax capabilities and data compression.... The cheapest
9,600 bps modems currently cost about $230 and 14,400 bps modems are
$295 and up."

--brad
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 11:26:49 EDT
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>

On Mon, 9 Nov 1992 11:06:36 EST <PBARFOOT@SUVM> said:
>I got signed off words by the local netman this weekend. This
>morning I resubscribed. Does this mean I'm a newbie ?
>                                                     Br Paul

No, Paul, you'd never be a newbie on this list.

Evelyn
From: samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
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Subject: Re: To Neal and To Brownies
Date: 12 Nov 92 01:45:01 GMT
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>I think we ate some kind of sandwiches.  Maybe smoked turkey?  I remember
>that the food was good.  The setting was sort of up a hill, I think.  I
>have a vague memory of windows that sort of looked down on Providence streets.
>It was somewhere in the campus area.  I can't remember now whether we drove
>or walked from your office.  We ordered the food at a counter and then went
>to a table.

You erred, Natalie. You of all people should know that everything happening
in one's life should be immediately written up and put in the ftp space.

If you'd done it dutifully at that time, you wouldn't have had to struggle
with vague memories now.

tushar
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 14:50:00 EST
From:         "Alec D. Plotkin" <185422285%VUVAXCOM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      I thought since He won i would remind you of his qualifications.

 BORN: August 19, 1946, Hope AR
 MARTIAL STATUS: married (Hillary in 1975)    RELIGION: Baptist
 EDUCATION:
    Georgetown Univ, BS, FS 1968
    Rhodes Scholar, Oxford Univ., 1968-70
    Yale Univ., JD 1973

 POLITICAL & GOV'T POSITIONS:
    1972 George McGovern campaign worker
    1974 Democratic Nominee for US House of Reps.
    1975 Chairman Housing Development Corp.
    1976-78 Arkansas Attorney General
    1978-80 Governor of Arkansas, lost in 1980
    1982-PR Governor of Arkansas, term expires Jan. 1995
    1992-1996 President of the United States of America

 BUSINESS & PROFESSIONAL POSITIONS:
    1973-76 Professor of Law, Univ. of Ark. at Fayetteville
    1973-76 Attorney, private practice
    1981-82 Attorney, Wright, Lindsay & Jennings, Little Rock

 HONORS & AWARDS:
    1988 Distinguished Service Award, Council of Chief State Officers

 MEMBERSHIPS:
    National Governor's Association (Chairman 1987)
    Education Committee of States (Chairman 1987)
    National Association of Attorney Generals
From: harwell@TENET.EDU (Anne Burton Harwell)
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Subject: Re: A Thousand words? Heck, no!
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:48:32 GMT
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On Thu, 5 Nov 1992 tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU wrote:

> Doris, one wishes La Harwell well, but she will simply have to type
> MUCH MUCH MORE to even start competing with a gif. I mean, abh.in.nyc,

Nyah, nyah, you're jealous, Tushar!

-abh
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 15:06:25 CST
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Choosing the appropriate insult...

>I just discovered that "animus" can mean "animosity."  So forget what I
>said earlier about malapropisms.  I've never heard "animus" used that way.

I have heard "animus" used only as animosity. I guess the other meaning
is more neutral, something like just a tendency or spirit. But whatever
experience I have, I will consider that meaning more pretentious.

tushar
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From:         "(Rashmi)" <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Guess who I bumped into today
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I was in a restaurant this evening, and in walked Arlen Specter and his wife.
It's not a very fancy place, but not your average student eatery either.
Hadn't realized it was frequented by the <powerful?>, we go there because
the food's delicious and it's not too crowded.  My friend had voted for Yeakel
yesterday, and booed softly.  Don't think they heard him - Specter even waved
and said hi.  I doubt if I'd have recognized him if it wasn't the day after
the election.

rashmi
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:43:00 EST
From:         ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM
Subject:      Re: Danger
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>A flamewar on emacs vs. vi or the pc vs. mac is
>about all we need to finally cross the line from being "something
>special  oooh baby" to just another Usenet group.  As my letter from
>the U.S. Equestrian Team told me, "just a little bit extra from each of
>our members will put us over the top...."

I LIKE IT!  Flavors of Emacs!  Gnu Emacs vs MicroEmacs vs MG vs Freyja
vs Gmacs vs Jove...WOW!  we could be at each others' throats for the
next six months over that one.  Especially if there's some
PlainVanilla VI users our there...

Ken <used 'em all>
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
 <DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      New Roller Coaster

Knowing there are some roller-coaster fans in the Blue-Moon Saloon, thought
the following excerpts from an the Tampa Tribune might be of some interest.

Busch Gardens (in Tampa) Building Southeast's Biggest Roller Coaster

Busch Gardens officials announced plans to build "Kumba," which they boast
will be the largest and fastest steel roller coaster in the Southeast.

The ride will thrill riders for nearly three minutes: lofting them 143 feet
into the air, plummeting them down 135 feet and spinning them upside-down
seven times.  Traveling at speeds in excess of 60 mph, Kumba will sometimes
hit forces 3.75 times that of gravity over 3,978 feet of its turquoise steel
track.

Ray Ueberroth, president of American Coaster Enthusiasts, predicted the ride
will be "outstanding."  "I've never seen anything like this," said
Ueberroth, who was experienced 319 roller coasters over 50 years.

After Kumba riders recover from the initial 135-foot drop, they'll climb
back up only to be dropped into a 108-foot loop, said to be the world's
largest.  What follows is a diving loop engineered from stunt plane
maneuvers, and a 360-degree spiraling camelback, experiencing 3 seconds
of weightlessness as you go thru the camelback.

More spirals, a cobra roll and a double corkscrew-shaped twist will
further excite riders, before the train, carrying eight cars, speeds
to a finish inside a dark underground tunnel.

Well, sounds like fun to me!  They have already begun construction and is
due to open in the spring.  Hope to be one of the first to ride it, but
know I can't get any chicken females in my family to ride with me :-(

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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