From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: Hmmm...
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 17:16:54 GMT
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In article <1993Jan22.032404.3789@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.182813.62326@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>>Hmmm...  SF ended the season at 15-3.  Buffalo is currently at 14-5.  
>>Nope, don't see your three games better.  
>Oh, you count the playoffs? What about SF 14-2, Buffalo 11-5?

But I thought you never cared about the regular season???  Isn't the only
real season the post-season??   As such, the records stand.  And, Buffalo
is 3-0 in postseason, while SF is a measly 1-1.

>
>>Also, Buffalo is in the SuperBowl while SF is at home.  Again, nope, 
>> don't see it...
>Buffalo in the SB while SF is at home still doesn't deny the fact of
>14-2 vs 11-5.

Sure it does.  That isn't their overall records.  It doesn't deny that it
was their REGULAR season records..

>
>>Can't win the SuperBowl if you don't make it...
>One team still can't win the SB even if it makes it.

True.  But the two teams in the SB have a much better shot at it then a team
sitting at home...
>
>>Well, at least for one NFC team, it was obviously not their goal:-)
>>Can't win the SuperBowl unless you are in the SuperBowl.  
>So SF can't win the SB. Has Buffalo achieved their goal yet? as far as the
>ultimate playoff goal is concerned, NOPE!

Nope, but at least they have a shot at it...SF was the team of the 80s, have
they made it to the SB in the 90s???  NOPE!!!! They are old news...
>
>Putting words in my mouth again?

Couldn't do that, no room with your foot in it...

>
>>>This only tells us that they are worse than Dallas. That's not yet
>>>evidence that they are worse than Buffalo.
>>
>>But why???  One game is still one game...  
>Right, one game is only one game. A team's season is not evaluated based
>on one regular season game.

True.  However, we DO know that Buffalo has proven it was better than SF,
on that 1 occasion if nothing else.  SF has not proven it was better than
Buffalo at this point.

>
>>If SF had beat Buffalo, they might
>>not have even been in the playoffs.  If Dallas winning proves that they
>>are better, than, by the same logic, Buffalo winning proves they were better
>>as well.
>But Dallas wins when the NFC championship is at stake, winner take all.
>Buffalo wins only when 1/16 of a regular season is at stake, nothing more. 

Funny, seems to me that they won all 3 of their playoff games so far as well.
They were down by what, 32 points in one game and had the desire to come back
and win.  San Fran. can't make that claim.  I guess getting the best regular
season record is all they cared about.  

>
>>But ultimately, we do know that SF was just not good enough to even get the 
>>chance...
>The ultimate playoff goal is not "just to get the chance". Well, to Kelly
>and Marino, maybe it is.

Yeah, but has Steve Young ever even lead his team to the SuperBowl???  
Better to lead your team to the SuperBowl and lose, then to never get them
there. (and, I care not whether he was on the team back in the 80s when Joe
was winning them...)
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