HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: carlos@carlos
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle icon needed
Keywords: Waffle, Windows, icon
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 22:44:50 -0500
Reply-To: carlos@infoserv.com
Organization: Dominguez UseNet, Brooklyn NY, USA

In <1V95wB1w165w@valnet.vincennes.in.us> Jonathan Herr <herrj@valnet.vincennes.in.us> writes:
>bob@1776.COM (Robert Coe) writes:

>I've wonder how some people get this myself.  I was fortunate to have
>internet access on a campus machine when I started (no longer true),
>and ftp'd it from one site to the campus machine and then downloaded
>it.  I imagine that some other BBS might have it if there are enough
>in your area.  I have since moved from school and was the only one
>that had it for quite while in the area that I moved to.

I just used Helldiver to save the article and uudecode the file.
MS-DOS Wafflers could save the article to a file, and run a MS-DOS
version of uudecode on it to decode the file.

On a unix system, I usually allow the newsreader to decode it, (TIN)
or save it manually and drop to my shell and uudecode it.

Hope this helps,

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From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: MAKEDIG.ZIP now available.
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 16:50:31 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

rad@railnet.nshore.ORG (Rick DeMattia) writes:
> roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:
> > rad@railnet.nshore.ORG (Rick DeMattia) writes:
> > > roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:
> > > > As long as your signature sterts with "--\n", you won't get the
> > > > helpfile unless you ask. ;->
> > > Say Roy, shouldn't that be "-- \n"?
> > By golly, Rick, you're the second person to ask that question.  I
> > couldn't find anything in the RFCs I have online here.  But to make
> > sure I'm not breaking anything, I'll add both versions to my fileserver.

I also believe that the proper separator for a .signature file is "-- ", but
I can't recall where I found that bit of information.  News.announce.newusers
maybe?


mathew
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From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: HELP! Helldiver, well, wont login
Keywords: Helldiver. MS windows, login
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 06:37:25 CST
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

carlos@carlos writes:

> I changed the node entry in STATIC to my host's name, infoserv.com
>  
> This customized version of waffle choked, and mangled the password
> file. Helldiver couldn't understand it, and locked me out.

Then it's time to dump your 'customized' version of Waffle, and upgrade
to a working version.  Besides, the proper entry for node: is _your_
fully-qualified-domain-name, not your host's.

Your headers are still broken, Carlos.

> To all the folks who emailed me these changes to my STATIC file, thanks
> but it bombed.

So _fix_the_problem_!!  Your site is producing articles that do not
conform to the standards.
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,news.answers
From: lance@Circle.Raleigh.NC.US (Lance A. Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Offline Readers
Date: 7 Jan 93 04:09:57 GMT
Organization: The Full Circle BBS, Raleigh NC - DOS/Waffle 1.65

stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) writes:

> Offline mail and news readers are a subset of what Waffle already does.
> It makes no sense to go into the hardware store and refuse to buy a
> prepackaged set of 8 screwdrivers because you only want one when both
> cost the same amount.

This anology is not quite right.  There is a large difference between 
setting up a QWK format offline reader and setting up a Waffle site.  The 
"cost" is _not_ the same.

I happen to agree that, ideally, setting up another Waffle is the way to 
go, but if you are not used to UNIX-ish software, an offline reader is MUCH 
easier to get running.

Lance

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From: pfaffman@pilot.njin.net (Jay Pfaffman)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: uucico & rmail problems
Keywords: uucico infinit loop
Date: 6 Jan 93 03:53:12 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I recently got the Waffle 1.65 source & am peeved that rmail & uucico
sources aren't included.  Is there some way I can get them?

I'm running DRDOS 6.0 with 10net, a peer-to-peer lan.  On incoming
uucp calls (not calls to my feed, thankfully) uucico fails trying to
delete the .CMD file & then loops infinitely trying to process and
delete it.  Dell suggested that files was too low in config.sys, but
I've checked it and network config stuff.

Does someone have the source or is someone using another uucico?

Rmail seems to be munging the "From " line.  Mailers that reply using
it fail.  (The "From: " line is fine.) The return path reads
"des!des.edu" instead of "des!user."  Ideas here?

Thanks.

-- 
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Dwight-Englewood School, 315 E. Palisade Ave.                      
Englewood, NJ  07631-0489                 201-569-9500
pfaffman@pilot.njin.net if des crashes . . .
From: sreck@rebox.in-berlin.de (Stefan Reck)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: smart expire
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 17:02:35 GMT
Distribution: world               
Organization: REBOX's Host, Berlin, Germany
X-Newsreader: NWREADER [version 3.00 BETA 9]

mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk> writes:
>
> jhm@hourglas.uucp (Jonathan Hulley-Miller) writes:
> > Does anyone have a smart expire program that could be used on news.answers to
> > only keep one copy of a FAQ ? Thanks.
> 
> The registered version of my expire program does it.  I just put
> 
>    news.answers /mexp=96,h+
> 
> in the USENET file and forget about it.
> 
> The shareware version is EXPIRE10.ZIP, available in the usual places.  It
> doesn't do the necessary header-parsing for the above feature, but is a
> fully-functional news-expiring program.

My expire does it and it is FREEWARE.

  Stefan

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From: dalew@twiki.PDX.COM (Dale Weber)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Archive-Server Requests to Halcyon.COM
Date: 6 Jan 93 04:24:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: twiki.04TXwB2w165w
Organization: Wafflemania Unlimited - Portland, OR USA

jerryg@jaiser.rain.com (Jerry Gaiser) writes:

> And as I discovered last night, don't append a signature because the
> server craps out with too many errors.

  You just have to remember to add the "end" as the very last line of your
request message.  This tells the mail server to ignore everything following
that line.

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From: richard@kunikpok.icus.com (Richard Hasting)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Old XT + Waffle + Fossil + V.32bis = ?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 17:59:58 CST
Organization: Kunikpok Kennels and Komputers (Pet Project)

tcscs!zeta@src.honeywell.com (Gregory Youngblood) writes:

> carlos@carlos writes:
> 
> > In <LaL7wB1w165w@floor.uucp.risc.net> hp@floor.uucp.risc.net (High Priest) 
> > 
> > >Well, I would be happy with 1000 cps. I'm currently getting 400-500 cps 
> > >on a v.32bis connect from my feed. (UNIX machine)
> > >The admin at my feed says there's nothing he can do, the 'g' protocol is 
> > >simply too inefficient. Is there anything that I can do?
> > >450 cps on a 14,400 connect is pathetic.
> > 
> > At times I peak at 500-600cps, but thats it..
> > 
> > If I would have known this little "fact", I may not have even started
> > this.. Someone posted here recently a patch to change from "g" to
> > "G" protocol. Maybe your site supports "G" and you might gain a
> > speed increase..
> 
> These speeds from v.32 or v.32bis connections usually indicate some type of
> data compression is being used, i.e. MNP-5 and/or v.42bis, and that you get
> large volumes of news.  Large enough to matter at least. If your not using 
> v.42bis or MNP-5 then this won't help and I dont know what else might work 
> for you.  
> 
> Disable MNP5 and V.42bis before calling a UUCICO session (this can be done
> easily in the DIALERS section).  When I did that I consistantly get throughpu
> of 850 to 900 cps receive and 550 to 650 cps when sending.  This is with 'g'
> protocol and the standard packet sizes and windows sizes.
> 
> Greg
> 
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Try again Greg.  Compression (v42.bis or MNP-5) can reduce the throughput
by about 100-150 CPS.  I happen to know that what they are seeing is caused
by having the window size set to "3", and moving to 7 will move the speeds
up to a more appropriate range.  I have a 9600 connection which often gets
900 CPS (v.32 and v.42bis, data is compressed) using the 7 windows, and 
with 14.4, I get 1200 (v.42bis turned on) to 1340(v.42bis off).  
Why do I know this?  I had this problem for the longest time.
It is likely that the USENET feed's uucico does not allow for more than
3 windows, and this is the problem.  Have them look at getting a better
uucp.  (Good luck...:-)

Richard Hasting

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richard@kunikpok.icus.com
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: Waffle icon needed
Keywords: Waffle, Windows, icon
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 16:55:26 GMT

kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle) writes:

>ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:

>> Well, I dood it.  After years of slamming GUI's, I done got me one.  Now,
>> does anyone have a waffle icon for DV/X?  An artiste I'm not.

>How could you?

Well, I've got this 2nd 386 sitting over here waiting for the new LINUX
stuff.  It does tcp/ip.  I'm involved (a little too heavily, at times)
with some Fidonet things, and can't drop MS-DOS completely (yet).  DV/X
will do some neat tcp/ip things, albeit with some add-ons.  Maybe the 
best of two worlds.  X-windows on a 386 is neat.  I can play tetris
without missing a beat on a Waffle login. :)

Now, all I need is another phone line for the system to do that SLIP
connection.

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From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Problems with nwreader and helldiver
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 09:39:21 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

rhys@cs.uq.oz.au (Rhys Weatherley) writes:

> It wasn't meant to be - a stuff up in the loop which either leaves the last
> character off or adds one too many is usually the cause of these problems,
> and was in this case.  A much more robust interpreter (I hope) will be in
> the 1.08 release, which will come out as soon as I can tear myself away from
> tinkering with the Helldiver Packet Format.  Any minute now. :-)

Sounds like you've got one of them genisis projects on your hands. It's
got a birth point and just keeps growing from there. :)

--
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From: micke@qainfo.se (Micke Larsson)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: scheduled events that take phone off-hook?
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 00:45:53 CET
Distribution: world
Organization: 14th Street BBS, Sweden

william@cithara.login.qc.ca (William Ross) writes:

> Hello,
> 
> Is there a way for Waffle to take the phone offhook when running
> selected scheduled events, like compacting harddrives, generating stats,
> basic housework.
> 

ECHO ATH1 > COMx



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From: system@kalki33.lakes.trenton.sc.us (Kalki Dasa)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Connection rate blues.
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:31:24 GMT
Organization: Kalki's Infoline BBS, Aiken, SC, USA


Any help on the following problem would be appreciated.

I just bought a USR Sportster (external, no-fax). I run a BBS under
Waffle 1.65 (DOS 5.0), and I get a Usenet feed from a local Usenet site.
My hardware is slow, so although my feed site supports 14,400 baud
transfers, I have to connect at 9600 baud or else I get so many errors
while downloading that the connection terminates!

Below is the configuration I have to use in order to force a 9600
baud connection with my news feed. If I change ANY of the baud rates --
to 19200 for example -- my modem inexplicably jumps to 14400 baud as
soon as the feed's modem answers. This is unacceptable.

On the other hand, if someone calls my bbs at any other speed than 9600
baud, they are unable to connect. This is unacceptable.

What is the problem?? How can I FORCE a 9600 baud connection with my
news feed and simultaneously ALLOW both 2400 and 9600 baud incoming
calls??

**********<< RUN.BAT FILE >>*************************************

C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE off
C:\BNU.COM /F- /T:4096 /R:8192 /L:1=9600,8N1
CLS                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:TOP
@ECHO OFF
CD D:\WAFFLE\BIN
WAFFLE %1

[....various call statements and labels......]

C:\BNU.COM /U
C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE on

******<< POLL.BAT FILE >>*******************************************

CD D:\WAFFLE\BIN
UUCICO -b9600 -x4 -s lakes
UUXQT  ^^^^^^
BATCH

*****<< STATIC FILE >>***********************************************

device: 2
driver: FOSSIL
locked: 9600
        ^^^^
speed: 9600
       ^^^^
initialize: ATH0S0=1M2Q0V1E1X4&A0&B0&H1&K3&N0&R2
offhook: ATH1
debug: modem
*********************************************************************

Kalki Dasa



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From: rad@railnet.nshore.ORG (Rick DeMattia)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Offline Readers - ENOUGH ALREADY!
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 20:45:35 EST
Followup-To: alt.flame
Organization: Railnet BBS +1 216 786 0476

frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) writes:

> stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) writes:
> 
> > When the software runs without user action, why should there be a need
> > ...
> 
> Oh man, you are really missing the point here.  What I am *trying* to
> get through your thick skull ...

The tone and the content of this thread is such that the discussion
should be moved to email among the participants.

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From: jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: MAKEDIG.ZIP now available.
Date: 6 Jan 93 01:59:21 GMT
Organization: The little node that could...

rad@railnet.nshore.ORG (Rick DeMattia) writes:

> roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:
> 
> > As long as your signature sterts with "--\n", you won't get the
> > helpfile unless you ask. ;->
> 
> Say Roy, shouldn't that be "-- \n"?
Oh no!!! Not -ANOTHER- round of .sig wars! :-)

                              --Jeff

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From: mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: "-- " as a signature delimiter
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 00:03:09 PST
Organization: Muth Valley Bell  (619/390-SLIC BBS; V32bis)

bob@1776.COM (Robert Coe) writes:

> I've found this whole thread a bit puzzling, since I'd never heard that the
> "--" that some people use to introduce their signatures meant anything.  But
> if some programs are written to recognize it as a signature delimiter, why 
> not have Waffle insert it automatically, in place of the blank line that Waf-
> fle puts there now?  One benefit would be that it wouldn't have to count
> against the 5-line limit that Waffle sometimes enforces.

Auhhh...Waffle does if you have it in your sig or mailsig files.

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From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Offline Readers
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 23:15:39 MST
Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada
X-Newsreader: rusnews v0.99

ranfry@mala.proteus.qc.ca (Ranfry) writes:

> russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) writes:

>>ranfry@mala.proteus.qc.ca (Ranfry) writes:
> 
>>> Look will you people shut up!  I have TOLD you what is needed, forget the 
> 
>>which is: an offline reader for Usenet - right?

>         NO!, what I wanted, and asked for is a version of Waffline that 
> worked with Waffle v1.65 for when I picked up Waffline v1.0 it did not
> seem to work.

I know that Rhys' packet format will include QWK as a subset - so even if
wafline doesn't make it this year, hopefully an at-least-as-functional
package should.

those who are writing generators - are you including mail-only QWK for
cases like this in the first batch?  Rhys - will the first reader you put
out handle it?  anyone else already writing readers for it?

[rest of response, including `I see no philosophy here', in email, of course]
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From: roshne@faerun.mi.org (Rod Shelton)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: --'s in a signature
Date: 10 Jan 93 16:29:16 GMT
Organization: The Forgotten One, East Lansing, MI

For those discussing the where's and why's of --'s in a signature file I
found this reference in a unix elmrc file I happened to have.  Hope it
helps.

# do we want dashes above signatures? (News 2.11 compatibility and convention)
sigdashes = ON


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From: dwrage@ddt-archives.athens.oh.us (David William Wrage)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: That nifty LIST command in the JOIN section...
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:02:48 GMT
Organization: * DDT Archives BBS *

Is there any way to make it run right after the login screen for every user?

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 David William Wrage              Usenet....dwrage@ddt-archives.athens.oh.us
 Sysop of DDT Archives BBS
 614/594-6588 at 2400 Baud        WWIVlink....1@16471     WWIVnet.....1@6471
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From: abolins@visavis.cam.org (August Abolins)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: batch2.Z (???)
Date: 10 Jan 93 14:53:17 GMT
Organization: Vis-a-Vis Communications [Ontario+Quebec]

When UUXQT runs, I notice that sometimes the file it's working on is
named "/spool/unbatch/batch.Z" sometimes "/spool/unbatch/batch2.Z" and
sometimes "/spool/unbatch/bat2.Z"

Why is this happening? Between calls there is nothing else in the
/spool/unbatch directory (there used to be; I was saving older copies of
the .Z files, but now I do not keep them anymore, but UUXQT still
reports "batch2.Z".



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From: vince_m@wacss.anixter.com (Vince Mammoliti)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Problem: Abnormal Program Termination when repling to News Posti
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 09:34:19 EST
Organization: Anixter Canada Inc.

rick@vsystem.wimsey.bc.ca (Rick Vandenberg) writes:

> vince_m@wacss.anixter.com (Vince Mammoliti) writes:
> 
> > I have currently, noticed a problem with my waffle setup.
> > 
> > When I try to directly mail to a news posting I get an
> > Abnormal Program Termination
> > (Queued for Internet Delivery)
> > Message. I find a copy of the message in the SPOOL/OUTBOX directory
> > but the messages doesn't get queued ?
> > 
> > Any Suggestions ?
> 
> The problem is most likely not having enough free memory.  When sending
> mail outside of your site (like to a news posting), Waffle calls RMAIL,
> which calls UUX to queue the message.  These two programs together take
> up quite a bit of memory on top of Waffle.  You should have at least
> 140-150K free, maybe a little more.  I know that number because I'm
> pushing the limit right now.
> 
> Do you run a large disk cache in conventional memory?  If so, try
> reducing the size a little bit to see if it helps.
> 
Thank You for you suggestion, It was a memory problem.
I was able to free up some memory.  Thanks for all the replies.

Vince

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From: stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Offline Readers
Date: 7 Jan 1993 03:26:38 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, College of Oceanography
NNTP-Posting-Host: skyking.oce.orst.edu

In article <W6uSrA7HBh107h@mala.proteus.qc.ca> ranfry@mala.proteus.qc.ca (Ranfry) writes:
>Look will you people shut up!  

Shut up yourself. Who died and made YOU moderator of c.b.w?

>I have TOLD you what is needed, 

That's nice. Who died and put you in charge? 

>If you people are
>too stupid to get the point, drop out of this conversation.  

If you don't like the conversation, you are free to drop out. Unless you
are too stupid to know how to do that.

>Except that you analogy is NOT valid.  The cost is NOT the same at all, 

The cost is exactly the same. You either set up Waffle to call another
system to download mail and news, or you set up XYZ offline reader to
call another system to download mail and news. The benefits are
incomparable, however, which makes Waffle a winner.

>plus
>most of my users who want a QWK mailer already USE a QWK reader system on

Who the hell said anything about QWK? Offline newsreader != QWK.