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From: kucloak@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bryan Kennedy Reed)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Less-Speculative SF (was Re: reality?
Date: 11 Oct 92 16:04:39 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <16153@mindlink.bc.ca>, Jeremy_Reimer@mindlink.bc.ca (Jeremy Reimer) writes:
>> floyd writes:
>> Hmm...I agre to an extent, but there are some important socio-economic
>> and technical differences between our world and that of Max
>> Headroom...Mainly in that are world is not yet entirely governed by
>> megacorps, we do not have the all-too-familiar urban decay to the
>> extent HeadroomEarth did, we have more than a 2-class system, etc...
> 
> 
> True, but the point is that the aspects of culture which are evident today
> are merely magnified to (admittedly) absurd proportions in order to make them
> stand out.  And the middle class *is* disappearing from North America.
>
There is a push in the international law arena to give corporations
some rights, eg. sue in the International Court.  Thats a step closer
to sovreignty.  
 
[STUFF DELETED]
> 
> Our world is definitely NOT a Bladerunner, or a Max Headroom world, or Chiba
> City.  But it has enough aspects of the above to cause concern...
> 
> And the technology seems to be approaching far more rapidly than anyone would
> ever have predicted...  We all love to watch Star Trek's loveable Geordi
> amaze us with his Visor(tm), but did you know that a miniature TV camera has
> already been hooked up to the optic nerve of someone who had lost his sight?
> Miniaturize it slightly and it fits in a glass eyeball easily.  Funny how
> 20th century tech beats out 25th...
> 
> "So.. no special effects at all, then... just the zoom." (holds paper towards
> and away from his head)
>
I saw a piece on artificial muscle research.  From what I could see,
it look like, they had the basic principles down.  Now the just need
to make it feasible and find a market and in 10 or 15 years...?
Cyberpunk is a lot closer than you think. 

>            - Recently Humanized Android Kryten, Red Dwarf
> 
> 
> --
> Jeremy_Reimer@ |"It turned out, as N-Man discovered later, that the black
> mindlink.bc.ca | boat hadn't been after him at all.  It was full of riotous,
> ---------------| unemployed former James Bond villains enraged at the fall
> aka THE JAGUAR!| of Communism in the Soviet Union."
> ---------------|
> Stealth Sig#69 |  --From "N-Man #3: N-Man on Holiday"
> 
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From: wendell.martin@the-matrix.com (Wendell Martin) 
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: REALITY?
Date: 7 Oct 92 11:13:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The MATRIX BBS - Birmingham, AL - 205-323-2016
Reply-To: wendell.martin@the-matrix.com (Wendell Martin) 

You know, my cynical side (which attracted me to CP in the first place)
has been running along similar lines recently.  After mucking about with
BBS's and Internet for a while, it's clear that a realtime, raytraced
CP matrix just isn't practical (not just bandwidth, deciding a STANDARD
is the problem!).  It's possible as an operating system, but unlikely as
a comm protocol (unless everyone goes to one standard [yeah, sure]).

As for the megacorps and 'the Sprawl'... I now look upon these as
allegories/warnings in the vein of traditional SF (_1984_, et al.).
Projecting the present to its extreme conclusion is an excellent way of
highlighting what's wrong now.  There are corps and there is a sprawl
(witness L.A.!), and they may even approach the CP standard some day,
but I hope to god they don't!

This brings me to my last point: why are we interested/fascinated
with this genre?  Do CP's seek this level of discord and ruin?  Or,
having grown tired of 'shiny happy SF', does this just seem so much more
true to life?  Star Trek was a great vision for the 60's and 70's, but
maybe we look around at the current world, now free of the cold war, but
still destroying itself with drugs, crime, despair, and civil
unrest/war (what's the first thing a free Yugoslavia does?  Why, attack
itself, naturally) and feel a darker future is more likely.

I've come to accept CP for what it is: a damned interesting sub-genre of
SF with some parallels in the modern world.  Taking it much beyond this
reminds me of the 'Slan shacks' and 'water brotherhoods' of the past -
interesting ways of viewing the world, but don't take it too seriously.
From: morpheus@entropy.mcds.com (morpheus)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Just TRY and thread this message, punk!
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 92 17:25:12 EDT
Organization: the pickle factory at Langley, Virginia

carlsoje@cda.mrs.umn.edu (Joel E. Carlson 1625773) writes:

> No god, no country, no king, just a bunch of freaks linked up in love!

Wow.. what have you been smoking?  Can I have some?

Maybe a good definition of virtual reality would be "A mind-altering substance
one can send over an email link" (well, sorta)

I'm waiting to be able to run down to the local K-Mart and buy a box of VR..

--
Let's watch the world fall apart.        (morpheus@entropy.mcds.com)
From: sehst3@cislabs.pitt.edu (Sean Horner)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Neuromancer: The Graphic Novel
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:30:50 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

I have the first volume of "Neuromancer: The Graphic Novel."

Can somebody tell me how I can get the other volumes--if they exist.

====================================================================
"I'd pull the plug on everyone.           Skitz
   Elimininate this race."                sehst3@vms.cis.pitt.edu
Xref: sparky alt.cyberpunk:4785 alt.cyberpunk.tech:760
From: dnibby@asylum.UUCP (Dana Nibby)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk,alt.cyberpunk.tech
Subject: WTBWAW more
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:48:21 GMT
Followup-To: alt.cyberpunk
Organization: Epilogue Technology Corp.

Would the Buddha Wear a Walkman: Table of Contents

(1) Welcome to Consciousness Tech
(2) Macine Dreams)
(3) Superbrain: the Quest for Intelligence
(4) Dream Tech: Working in Your Sleep
(5) Living in a Post-Freudian World: (Fifty Way to Leave Your
    Shrink... Or be Your Own)
(6) Artificial Realities: Using Your Computer to Expand Your Mind
(7) Instant Nirvana: Enlightenment in an Impatient Age)
(8) Nouveau Cheops: East Meets West Amazon Basin
(9) The Thinking Man's Guide to Brain Renovation and Repair

8 1/2 X 11, 255 pages, published by Simon and Schuster

A company called Tools for Transformation sells this book for
$16.95 (cover price), plus approx. $5 for shipping and handling
in the U.S. (more for overseas shipping)
To order a copy, send $9.50 check or money order to:

   Dana Nibby
   POB 366
   Durham, NH  03824-0366
 
For orders outside the U.S., send $12.50 rather than $9.50.
From: Jeremy_Reimer@mindlink.bc.ca (Jeremy Reimer)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Less-Speculative SF (was Re: reality?
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:18:34 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> pinkerton floyd writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <1992Oct7.224417.7786@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
> Posted: Wed, 7 Oct 92 22:44:17 G
>
> Org.  : Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
>
> In article <16075@mindlink.bc.ca> Jeremy_Reimer@mindlink.bc.ca (Jeremy
> Reimer) writes:
> |> guest@fcit-c1.fcit.monash.edu.au writes:
> |> A cyberpunk revolution ain't gonna happen in the real world is what I'm
> |> saying.
> |
> |Either that or it's already happened.
>
> I wouldn't go that far....
>
> |Max Headroom didn't start out with "20 minutes into the future" for
> nothing,
> |folks.
>
> Erick Erikson wrote that he believed people are impatient idealists,
> a statement I have always disagreed with to a alrge extent.  I think
> the popularity of cyberpunk proves the statement is wrong,
> particularly shows like Max Headroom who boast so loudly about "this
> is what it's going to be like...soon!"....


No, I think you've missed my point.  It's more like "this is what it's like
NOW, but most people are too tuned-out to realize" and that's NOT idealism,
it's more of a scare tactic, like George Orwell's 1984 exceptith apathy
replacing brute fascism as humanity's worst enemy.


--
Jeremy_Reimer@ |"Anti-ninjas were the most feared assassins in the world.
mindlink.bc.ca | Instead of appearing out of thin air, throwing metal stars
---------------| and messing around with bo staffs and numchuks they simply
aka THE JAGUAR!| shot people and then drove everyone mad with pointless
---------------| conspiracy theories for years afterwards."
Stealth Sig#42 |  --From "N-Man #3"
From: rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com (Bob Haar)
Newsgroups: alt.graphics.pixutils
Subject: Re: UUXFER 2.0
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:26:43 GMT
Reply-To: rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com
Organization: G.M. Research and Environmental Staff

How about about explanation of what this is?

What does it do?

Is it source or executable?

What machines/systems does it run on?

From the name (uuxfer.com), I suspect that it is a binary executable
for an MS-DOS or CP/M machine, but that is only a guess.

---
	Robert Haar               InterNet : rhaar@gmr.com 
	Computer Science Dept., G.M. Research and Environmental Staff
DISCLAIMER: Unless indicated otherwise, everything in this note is
personal opinion, not an official statement of General Motors Corp.


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From: sfnet@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Steven Ellis)
Newsgroups: alt.graphics.pixutils,alt.binaries.pictures.utilities
Subject: JPG to GIf
Date: 11 Oct 92 22:09:36 GMT
Followup-To: alt.graphics.pixutils

Need the location of a good JPG to GIF converter for UNIX

					SteveN
Xref: sparky alt.graphics.pixutils:2242 alt.binaries.pictures.utilities:1261
From: dlp5@po.CWRU.Edu (Daniel L. Price)
Newsgroups: alt.graphics.pixutils,alt.binaries.pictures.utilities
Subject: Printing .gif's
Date: 11 Oct 1992 19:16:54 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dlp5@po.CWRU.Edu (Daniel L. Price)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu



Hi.  I'm looking for a utility that will run on DOS, and will print
.gif files in color on a dot matrix printer.  I have a Panasonic
KX-P2180 with the optional color kit.  I have a utility that will 
capture any screen and print it in 16 color greyscale, but I want
to be able to print in color.  Thanks in advace for any input.

					Dan
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Newsgroups: alt.graphics.pixutils
From: grant@bluemoon.rn.com (Grant DeLorean)
Subject: Re: ImageMagick 2.0
Keywords: X11 image display image-processing JPEG TIFF GIF
Organization: Blue Moon
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 16:30:09 GMT

cristy@eplrx7.es.duPont.com (Cristy) writes:

>ImageMagick 2.0 is a collection of X11 image processing and display
>utilities.  It is available as contrib/ImageMagick.tar.Z on
>export.lcs.mit.edu.  I have also posted it to comp.sources.x.  A beta
>version of this distribution was previously posted to alt.sources.

 Was there any changes from that posted beta to the "release" version
at the archive site?

 BTW, I think there is a problem but I am not sure if it is in
display or in the jpeg library. This happened with the old IM and
the 2.0B that was posted. Giving display a list of 5 or more jpg
images causes it to dump core (and shut down openwindows, which
sort of tags my environment as a Sun (SPARC 2 in this case)) when
I 'next' to the 5th image (either using the n key or the menu option).
-- 
\   Grant DeLorean  - IHMSA & NRA Life Member -  (grant@bluemoon.use.com)   /

        Good leaders being scarce, following yourself is allowed.

Newsgroups: alt.graphics.pixutils
From: mucds@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Corey D. Stinson)
Subject: Delux Paint II/Animator Formats
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:25:46 GMT

  
  Hi everyone:
    I know this one has been asked before but I am new to the group, and
didn't have access to the FAQ.  I would like to know the format for
loading Delux Paint II SE and/or Delux Paint Animator files.  Delux
Paint
files of course can be coverted to PCX, which I already have info on,
but I would like some info on calling up the Animator files too.

    If anyone has any info, or, even better, algorithms, any help would
be appreciated.
					Corey

Newsgroups: alt.graphics.pixutils
From: bobw@csg.uwaterloo.ca (Bob Wildfong)
Subject: Re: why ".299 r + .587 g + .114 b" ??
Keywords: red green blue grayscale color
Organization: Computer Systems Group, University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:11:37 GMT

In article <ldng3nINNokh@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> hpchen@blackberry.Eng.Sun.COM (Huei-Ping Chen) writes:
>there is a function ppmtopgm which converts color pictures to grayscale,
>the man page says the quantization formula used is ".299 r + .587 g + .114 b".
>
>my question is why this formular, is there any color theory behind it ??
>can someone recommend me a paper or book that I can read to understand it.
>
>-- Ping
> 

This is a standard formula for converting a colour RGB triplet to a single
grayscale value.  Notice that the fractions add up to 1.  These weights are
derived from the relative "brightness" of the three component colours.
The result of the formula will be one number with the same max value as the
components.  0=black, max=white.

You can understand it better if you imagine what various colours would look
like in grayscale.  Pure green is brighter than pure red, which is brighter
than pure blue (at least the hues of red, green and blue that your monitor
uses as its component colours).

Mixtures of the components work the same way.  For example, you would expect
yellow to be converted to a light shade of gray (high number, close to white).
Since pure yellow is red+green, the grayscale value is .299+.587 of the max
value of the components, or .886*max_value which is a pretty light shade of 
gray (pretty close to white=1.0*max_value).

I don't know offhand who developed the weights, or how they were measured,
but I think they have something to do with the colour sensitivity of the
human eye.


Bob Wildfong                                       bobw@csg.uwaterloo.ca
Waterloo, Ontario                                  bobw@csg.waterloo.edu
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From: hersbach@amc.uva.nl
Newsgroups: alt.graphics.pixutils
Subject: targa16 driver for windows wanted
Date: 12 Oct 92 11:43:38 GMT
Organization: Central computer department

sorry Iam new on this newsnet, but i have a question about the targa 16 card
 from the year 1988. I need a targa driver for windows 3.1, my information 
from truevision in the netherlands was "don't know"
I have looked for the FAQ but i haven't found anthing
please answer by email to 
hersbach@amc.uva.nl
because i don't read this group freqenly thanks !
Newsgroups: alt.graphics.pixutils
From: tim.meade%theweb@meaddata.com (Tim Meade) 
Newsgroups: alt.graphics.pixutils
Subject: PBM TO TIFF
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:55:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Web BBS 1-513-436-9011 6 Lines 1200 News groups 50,000 files!
Reply-To: tim.meade%theweb@meaddata.com (Tim Meade) 

I am using the tifftopnm program for conversion to our propritary image
format.  It works well until a LARGE image is tried to convert.  I
continue to get not enough memory errors on certain images.  I am
running on a SPARC with 32 megs of memory and 80 megs of swap.  I have
plenty of memory.  Is this program trying to allocate enough space for
the entire image?  Anyone have any ideas on how I can get around this?
Some of my images are in the 900 mb range uncompressed.


                                        ..Tim
From: rcrolf@urc.tue.nl
Newsgroups: alt.graphics.pixutils
Subject: Determination of SVGA-cards
Date: 14 Oct 92 11:09:19 GMT
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands

Hello to all,

I'm looking for ASSEMBLER routines (for DOS) to determine
what type of SUPERVGA adaptor is present in the PC.

All help will be welcome !

Please EMAIL me directly because I'm not a subscriber to
this list.

THANX !!!

Rolf van Gelder.


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Newsgroups: alt.graphics.pixutils
From: tobe7093@corvair.edu (tobey christophe)
Subject: UUXFER anywhere?
Reply-To: tobe7093@nova.gmi.edu
Organization: GMI Engineering & Management Institute
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 03:45:50 GMT


Does any one know of an FTP site where I could
find the UUXFER program that people use to post
binary pictures to news groups?

chris.

tobe7093@nova.gmi.edu
Newsgroups: alt.graphics.pixutils
From: mccauley@ecn.purdue.edu (Darrell McCauley)
Subject: fix circles in scaled bitmaps
Organization: Ag Engineering Dept, Purdue University 
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:28:41 GMT

has anyone written a "smart" tool which will find circles
within a bitmap and "fix" inner/outer boundaries? (i.e.,
I have a bitmap that was scaled up and the circles don't
look so good anymore). 
-- 
James Darrell McCauley                    Dept of Ag Engineering, Purdue Univ
internet: mccauley@ecn.purdue.edu         West Lafayette, Indiana 47907-1146
bitnet: mccauley%ecn@purccvm              UUCP: pur-ee!mccauley
Newsgroups: alt.graphics.pixutils
From: mpd48941@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Duff)
Subject: Gray-shade conversion
Reply-To: duff@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 18:45:41 GMT

In using the Xloadimage, etc on a Sparc, I found a nifty little switch
that helps me out a bit.  -gray takes any color GIF, etc and gray-shades it
Does anyone have a decent palette for this conversion?  I would GREATLY
appreciate it if you did.

(Directions would be fine, as well)

Thanks in advance.

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Newsgroups: alt.graphics.pixutils
From: technews@iitmax.iit.edu (Kevin Kadow)
Subject: Sphere mapping software wanted
Organization: Technology News, IIT, Chicago, IL
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 04:34:49 GMT

Can anybody point me to software that can take an image (pref. color) and 
produce an output that looks as if the input image was "wrapped" around a
sphere (turns a square picture into a "ball" shaped picture (round) with
the middle enlarged and the edges receding, easier seen than described.

I have a program called Recursive Realm for the IBM/PC which can do this,
but which only supports 640x400x16 PCX files with a particular palatte,
and which is very inexact (it produces fuzzy output).

Before telling me to read the fact, please take in account that this site
expires News in TWENTY-FOUR HOURS, so I seldom get to see the faq :-(
-- 
    Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted.

technews@iitmax.iit.edu                           kadokev@harpo.iit.edu
                         My Employer Disagrees.
From: mpd48941@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Duff)
Newsgroups: alt.graphics.pixutils
Subject: Memory locations
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:42:31 GMT
Reply-To: duff@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I was hoping for some direct-mapping techniques for some of the higher
resolutions available (SVGA).  This is one thing that I am completely ignorant
of.  If anyone knows of the base addresses for many of the graphics modes
(I know that CGA starts at B0000 or B8000  etc) would you PLEASE let me know.
Also, anyone who knows a little bit about the differences in CHIPSETS, 
could you please tell me?  I woould like to get a firmer grasp on these
concepts.  BTW the mem locs I was asking for I need for MS-DOS machines.

Thanks much.

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From: rwed@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (N7YVM)
Newsgroups: alt.graphics.pixutils
Subject: Re: why ".299 r + .587 g + .114 b" ??
Keywords: red green blue grayscale color
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:19:49 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <Bw6AFE.DF1@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> bobw@csg.uwaterloo.ca (Bob Wildfong) writes:
>In article <ldng3nINNokh@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> hpchen@blackberry.Eng.Sun.COM (Huei-Ping Chen) writes:
>>there is a function ppmtopgm which converts color pictures to grayscale,
>>the man page says the quantization formula used is ".299 r + .587 g + .114 b".
[...]
>This is a standard formula for converting a colour RGB triplet to a single
>grayscale value.  Notice that the fractions add up to 1.  These weights are

Yes, its called CCIR recommendation 601-1
theres also CCIR recommendation 709 which says the
formula is:

Luminosity=.2125 r + .7154 g + .721 b

There, blue is almost one tenth as luminous as green, where in 601-1 its
around one fifth. I think they must have done some kind of study on the 
human eye to get these figures.

Newsgroups: alt.graphics.pixutils
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford)
Subject: Re: why ".299 r + .587 g + .114 b" ??
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:51:35 GMT

Huei-Ping Chen writes
> Hi, boys and girls out there,
> 
> I have just downloaded pbmplus tools, and am trying to  
understand it and use it.
> 
> there is a function ppmtopgm which converts color  
pictures to grayscale,
> the man page says the quantization formula used is ".299  
r + .587 g + .114 b".
> 
> my question is why this formular, is there any color  
theory behind it ??
> can someone recommend me a paper or book that I can read  
to understand it.
> 
> any information would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> -- Ping
>  
The formula was arrived at empirically.  Human eye is most  
sensative to green light. Hence the high green value.  You  
want contrast between sky and land, hence low blue value.   
I've no idea how they can claim 3 place accuracy however.

Not a complete answer.  Flame me if I'm wrong on the  
details.
Newsgroups: alt.graphics.pixutils,comp.sys.amiga.graphics,alt.graphics