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From: s924683@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au ( Chandi )
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: ST:TNG - recent episodes (SPOILERS?)_
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:58:09 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

rhys@cs.uq.oz.au (Rhys Weatherley) writes:

>Yep.  The writers could probably explain it away as advances in technology and
>the faster-than-light technology they use in the computer.  Still, it didn't
>even have the 5 second delay to wait for the power to drain away. :-)


  IF the computer's memory cleared that fast, it will take only one minor power
  glitch and No more computer....

  Will be in the discussion group

  - Chandi
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From: s892024@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Richard A. Muirden [GA])
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: Australian isolation & delay
Date: 13 Sep 92 21:34:17 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

ibacon@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Ian Bacon) writes:

>Second part of my post. Does anyone know of a solution to this problem?
>Is there a cheap means of buying oz version TNG? Does anyone know of a

You can get TNG 2 eps on video up to the 5th season from the UK, but
the way the exchange rate has been it hasn't been worthit lately :(

But when I go there, it'll be aq different matter :)

>US bookshop that sells mail order books to oz at not too outrageous
>prices?

not really :(

-richard

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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Newsgroups: aus.sf,rec.arts.sf.misc,rec.arts.sf.science,rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: THE FUTURE
Keywords: future
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:50:50 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

rez@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Anestis Kozakis <Rez>):
>I have a question to put to people.
>please reply within the next 3 or 4 days.

Why?
From: dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: Australian isolation & delay
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 06:05:38 GMT
Organization: More like Dis~, really.
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In article <18s4ncINNasv@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, Ian Bacon writes:

> Is there a cheap means of buying oz version TNG? Does anyone know of a
> US bookshop that sells mail order books to oz at not too outrageous
> prices?

There are Australian SF bookshops that aren't too shoddy.

In Perth I visited a bookshop called 'A Touch of Strange' in
Subiaco. Purchased some keen books there. Melbourne has Minotaur,
and Sydney has Galaxy. Canberra has Gaslight Books, out in
Fyshwick, but not much else.

If you're into mail order, and prepared to wait a month for each
order of books you put it, you could do worse than try 'Slow
Glass Books' in Melbourne. Write to them, and they'll send you
that month's catalogue. Excellent service, and the prices are
about 20-40% off the regular bookshop prices.

[Sorry, I don't have the address at the moment.  Paul Agapow
might have it nearby - ask him]

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From: ibacon@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Ian Bacon)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Australian isolation & delay
Date: 12 Sep 1992 15:03:08 +0800
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniwa.uwa.edu.au
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

This post is in two parts. The first is a bitch about delays in
receiving books and films in Australia. In Perth channel 9 is screening
Star Trek TNG spasmodically, out of sequence and they are still showing
1st and 2 nd series. On other newsgroups I read about TNG episodes that
will not be shown in oz for years, if ever.
Also books. The situation is not as bad but books take time to get here,
more than they should and they are also more expensive.

Second part of my post. Does anyone know of a solution to this problem?
Is there a cheap means of buying oz version TNG? Does anyone know of a
US bookshop that sells mail order books to oz at not too outrageous
prices?


Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: fraser@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fraser Wilson)
Subject: Re: ST: TNG - recent episodes (SPOILERS?)_
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 05:51:11 GMT

rhys@cs.uq.oz.au (Rhys Weatherley) writes:

>Does anyone agree with me that the Enterprise's computer was long overdue for
>a reboot in "Contagion"?

Did everyone else cry "REBOOT" when we heard it was a virus?  Sure, it was
good for the plot, but I thought a complete shutdown was the first thing
one would think of.

Good episode though.

Fraser.
From: s892024@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Richard A. Muirden [GA])
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: ST:TNG - recent episodes (SPOILERS?)_
Date: 13 Sep 92 21:35:39 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

hoahosth@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (ANDREA HOSTH) writes:

>Well, what has every/anyone thought of the recent episodes? "The Royale" had 
>a pretty pathetic and predictable excuse for a plot, and last week's, a time 
>travel one which I've forgotten the name of, was okay at best. I did think, 
>however, that whatever they were using by way of special effects (or just 
>plain good acting) which made the future Picard look so ill and awful and "
>out of phase" was pretty good. 
\
Yes, Royal is hopless, but "Time Squared" was not to bad actually, IMHO :)

>I'd like to start a weekly discussion of the TNG episodes which are being 
>aired in Australia (I dislike discussing them on any of the rec.arts.
>startrek groups because we are so far behind). Would there be any interest 
>in this? I usually watch the episode and *really* feel like making one or 
>two comments about the movie, but have no TNG groupies here to discuss it 
>with. 

COunt me in ;-) It sounds good :)


>Ankh

-richard

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From: molly@krang.vis.citri.edu.au (Mark Ollila)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: ST: TNG - recent episodes (SPOILERS?)_
Date: 12 Sep 92 11:01:41 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia

hoahosth@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (ANDREA HOSTH) writes:


>Well, what has every/anyone thought of the recent episodes? "The Royale" had 
>a pretty pathetic and predictable excuse for a plot, and last week's, a time 
>travel one which I've forgotten the name of, was okay at best. I did think, 
>however, that whatever they were using by way of special effects (or just 
>plain good acting) which made the future Picard look so ill and awful and "
>out of phase" was pretty good. 

The recent episodes are ones which I havent seen before ( not available
at general video stores ).

TIME SQUARED I believe was the name of the last episode, and I have
actually been enjoying the episodes. I agree that ROYALE had a 
'second rate' plot, but the previous episode to it ( the one involving the
Neutral Zone and the Romulans etc...) was good. 


>I'd like to start a weekly discussion of the TNG episodes which are being 
>aired in Australia (I dislike discussing them on any of the rec.arts.
>startrek groups because we are so far behind). Would there be any interest 
>in this? I usually watch the episode and *really* feel like making one or 
>two comments about the movie, but have no TNG groupies here to discuss it 
>with. 

>Ankh

I'd be interested.

With the last episode, the entity that created the energy vortex,
well does anyone know anything about it. Almost had a Q feeling about it.?

Mark.


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From: daz@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Dazza Primm)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: ST: TNG - recent episodes (SPOILERS?)_
Date: 12 Sep 92 12:14:30 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia

molly@krang.vis.citri.edu.au (Mark Ollila) writes:

>With the last episode, the entity that created the energy vortex,
>well does anyone know anything about it. Almost had a Q feeling about it.?
funny you say that, for Time Squared was going to be used to set up a
meeeting with Q later on, but that was later dropped. A Q story is to be
aired soon though, within the next few weeks, called Q Who. Q Who is a
very good story, i'll be in it, to discuss it. 

the story involving Romulans and the Neutral Xone was called
'Cantagion'. 

>Mark.
Daz.
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From: paul@medici.trl.OZ.AU (Paul Elliott)
Subject: Re: ST:TNG - recent episodes (SPOILERS?)_
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 02:45:09 GMT

From article <hoahosth.50.716288560@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au>, by hoahosth@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (ANDREA HOSTH):
> Well, what has every/anyone thought of the recent episodes? "The Royale" had 
> a pretty pathetic and predictable excuse for a plot, and last week's, a time 
> travel one which I've forgotten the name of, was okay at best. I did think, 
> however, that whatever they were using by way of special effects (or just 
> plain good acting) which made the future Picard look so ill and awful and "
> out of phase" was pretty good. 
>
Could someone please tell me how the "The Royale" ended. I videotaped the
episode allowing an extra 15 minutes for late night time slippage. However,
because of the stuffing around with that home video show, the programming
schedule must have changed, and I missed the last 10 minutes.

I would like to know how it ended even though the plot was a bit reminiscent
of Lost in Space plots.



Paul Elliott			p.elliott@trl.OZ.AU
AI Systems Section
Telecom Research Laboratories
Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: hoahosth@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (ANDREA HOSTH)
Subject: ST:TNG - recent episodes (SPOILERS?)_
Organization: Halls of Residence, Monash University 
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 09:02:40 GMT

Well, what has every/anyone thought of the recent episodes? "The Royale" had 
a pretty pathetic and predictable excuse for a plot, and last week's, a time 
travel one which I've forgotten the name of, was okay at best. I did think, 
however, that whatever they were using by way of special effects (or just 
plain good acting) which made the future Picard look so ill and awful and "
out of phase" was pretty good. 

I'd like to start a weekly discussion of the TNG episodes which are being 
aired in Australia (I dislike discussing them on any of the rec.arts.
startrek groups because we are so far behind). Would there be any interest 
in this? I usually watch the episode and *really* feel like making one or 
two comments about the movie, but have no TNG groupies here to discuss it 
with. 

Ankh
From: s892024@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Richard A. Muirden [GA])
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: ST: TNG - recent episodes (SPOILERS?)_
Date: 13 Sep 92 21:37:20 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

daz@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Dazza Primm) writes:

>molly@krang.vis.citri.edu.au (Mark Ollila) writes:

>>With the last episode, the entity that created the energy vortex,
>>well does anyone know anything about it. Almost had a Q feeling about it.?
>funny you say that, for Time Squared was going to be used to set up a
>meeeting with Q later on, but that was later dropped. A Q story is to be
>aired soon though, within the next few weeks, called Q Who. Q Who is a
>very good story, i'll be in it, to discuss it. 

Did someone say "Borg" ? ;-)

Sorry, couldn't resist! Q Who is *very* good..


>the story involving Romulans and the Neutral Xone was called
>'Cantagion'. 

:) yup :)


>>Mark.
>Daz.
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From: voros@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Joe Voros)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: ST:TNG - recent episodes (SPOILERS?)
Date: 13 Sep 92 14:26:04 +1000
Organization: Physics Department, Monash University, Australia.

hoahosth@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (ANDREA HOSTH) writes:
> Well, what has every/anyone thought of the recent episodes? "The Royale" had 
> a pretty pathetic and predictable excuse for a plot, and last week's, a time 
> travel one which I've forgotten the name of, was okay at best. I did think, 
> however, that whatever they were using by way of special effects (or just 
> plain good acting) which made the future Picard look so ill and awful and "
> out of phase" was pretty good. 

I have missed the last couple, owing to that blitheringly ridiculous
plot device for Contagion.  I mean, what does every novice computer user
do the moment the bloody thing does anything wrong or `hangs'??  Power
off!  And so it takes the crew of the Enterprise a whole episode to
think of this.  And even then only by accident!  Oi veh!

As for time travel; well, call me a cynic.  No, better, call me a
physicist.  It is very rarely that I ever see anything to do with time
travel carried off with any but a ghost of credibility.

I like ST, don't get me wrong.  But I truly feel that the only one on
the whole show who can *act* is Patrick Stewart.  He has the only really
demanding character.  The others are cartoons.  Sometimes, though, the
show manages to come through the lousy plot and marginal acting, and is
enjoyable.  It has to be!  Why else would anyone watch it so late? :)

> I'd like to start a weekly discussion of the TNG episodes which are being 
> aired in Australia (I dislike discussing them on any of the rec.arts.
> startrek groups because we are so far behind). Would there be any interest 
> in this? I usually watch the episode and *really* feel like making one or 
> two comments about the movie, but have no TNG groupies here to discuss it 
> with. 

I'm sure there would be a great deal of interest, and I'm also sure
you'll find many groupies coming out of the closet :)

joe, the Token Physicist of aus.sf

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From: laflisc@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: news.future
Subject: first oone
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:37:10 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

future news:
		I will be the first post.
						Scott
From: consensus@aol.com (Christopher Allen)
Newsgroups: news.future
Subject: Where is "info-futures" list now?
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:10:13 GMT
Organization: Consensus Development
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I have heard good things about the "info-futures" list, but I can't
find it. I have two addresses for it, info-futures@encore.com from
the bitnet listing of lists, and info-futures-request@cs.bu.edu
from the news.lists listing of lists.

Does anyone know if it still exists? It's scope was reportedly
broader than news.future.

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Newsgroups: news.software.b
From: rsalz@osf.org (Rich Salz)
Subject: Re: Testing INN's newsfeeds file.
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:50:18 GMT

>In news.software.b, article <1992Sep6.231714.12213@PA.dec.com>,
>  brister@pa.dec.com (James Brister) writes:
> 
> 	3) Is there a flag in the newfeeds file I haven't seen that 
> 	   will cause the entire article being processed to be written
> 	   down a pipe to a subprocess. (like having '::' as the third 
> 	   field in a CNews sys file).
Let me explain the question and the answer a bit.

Like other systems, INN can also invoke a command each time an article
comes in.  For example:
	mail:\
	    :comp.security.announce:Tp\
	    :/usr/lib/sendmail security-folks
This would mail each posting to a mailing list.  In this case, the program
gets the message on its standard input.

INN can start long-lived processes and feed them their "batchfile" on
stdin.  These are called "channel feeds."  For example,
	news.uu.net/uunet.uu.net\
		:*,!foo.*:Tc\
		:/usr/local/news/bin/nntplink -i stdin news.uu.net
This feeds all non-local articles to nntplink in "stdin" mode.  Since this
is a channel-type feed (the Tc in the flags), then the process is started
when INN starts, and shut down on demand, or when it falls behind.  (Most
processes fall behind. :-) Using this, there is no way to send the full
article to nntplink.  While nntplink doesn't want the full article, a
new NNTP-sending program could well want it.  This will be addressed in
a future patch.  INN is the only Usenet software I know of that provides
channel-type feeds.

So, depending on what James is asking for, the answer is either yes
or not yet. :-)
	/rich $alz
Newsgroups: news.software.b
From: rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach)
Subject: cnews feature history/test question
Organization: Altruistic Intentions, Hollywood, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 04:57:20 GMT

Where, if anywhere, in the May 1992 release of c-news can I find a
history of features/fixes by release/patch date?  I'd like to know how this
release differs from the one I have patched 15-Dec-1990.

I remember reading somewhere in the documentation that one can do a
"test install" of a new version of cnews in a separate directory, for
example, and then after testing mv it where it belongs. 
Could someone remind me where to find this info?
Thank you.

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Newsgroups: news.admin.technical,news.software.b,news.software.readers
From: michaelb@wshb.csms.com ( WSHB Operations Eng)
Subject: Re: NFS vs NNTP for news reading - Suggestions for Xenix?
Followup-To: news.admin.technical
Keywords: NNTP
Organization: WSHB, Herald Broadcasting Syn., Inc., Cypress Creek, SC, USA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:27:55 GMT

>> I'd strongly recommend NNTP-only.
>
>I'd recommend NFS for reading, news soft-mounted read-only, NNTP for
>posting.

OK, not all of us have a network of Suns. I currently have several Xenix 
machines that pass newsfeeds over the serial port with uucp. In the near 
future we'll be installing ethernet between them and several other machines. 
Since Xenix doesn't support NFS, I had planned to dedicate one of the Xenix 
boxes as an NNTP server with no actual users, and put all of the users on 
other machines to do their thing. News will be read and posted via NNTP. 
Does anyone have a better suggestion? I currently have B-news 2.11 but plan 
to change to whatever is the latest release of C-news when the big switch 
occurs. All of the readers currently use trn. I plan to install nn after 
the change.

Thanks for any pointers.

Michael
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Newsgroups: news.software.b,news.software.readers
From: SEB1525@MVS.draper.com (Steve Bacher)
Subject: Re: NFS vs NNTP for news reading
Followup-To: news.software.readers
Organization: Draper Laboratory
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:39:00 GMT

An important argument in favor of NNTP over NFS for news reading
is that some platforms won't have decent NFS access, or any NFS
access at all.  (IBM mainframes, for example, will probably never
be NFS clients.)

Also, NNTP allows the server to have some intelligence about caching
articles or tracking message ID's.  Otherwise the cleverness and
optimizations need to be in the reader, which should be concentrating
on warm and fuzzy user interfaces and kill file maintenance.  ;-)

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Newsgroups: news.admin.technical,news.software.b,news.software.readers
From: ntmtv!harthc@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Howard Hart)
Subject: Re: NFS vs NNTP for news reading
Keywords: NNTP
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:23:49 GMT

>Apart from efficiency the main argument that has been used here
>against NFS is that news is currently on our gateway machine, and
>if we ran NFS on that machine it would be a major security hole.
>I don't know how serious a worry this is.

Don't forget that wonderful feature of NFS when partitions are mounted
read/write (such as the case where you have to mount the news batch
directory read/write for users to post articles). Don't know about
other machines, but on Sun's, if you loose the server, the client
hangs indefinitely (I was told at one time that NFS writes have
higher interrupt priority than mouse clicks, so I do mean complete
screen/window lockup). That alone makes NNTP worthwhile at our site.
It was very interesting when our old NFS-moounted newsserver went down
and 300+ machines lab-wide suddenly quit responding--all for a marginally
(management-wise) supported USENET feed. I'd strongly recommend NNTP-only.

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