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From: exudtn@exu.ericsson.se (Derek Nelson)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:56:24 GMT
Reply-To: exudtn@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article 4516@cvbnetPrime.COM, tmcinern@newcomer.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Timothy McInerney x0 14-2) writes:
>In article <1992Dec29.172417.11540@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, masterov@cstr.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael Masterov) writes:
>|> [Most of Midwestern Jewish Lament deleted]
>|> >...raised and still observe in the conservative branch 
>|> >of Judaism. There just aren't any Jewish eligible men here in 
>|> >D.M., or close by! I'm about ready to give up! Any suggestions from
>|> >anyone out there??!!
>|> [More deleted]
>|> >                            Shelley
>|> >
>|> >	Well, call me crazy Shelley, but did you ever consider dating someone
>|> >	who, (GASP), wasn't Jewish?
>|> >
>|> >	If you haven't, grow up and start living in the twentith century, 
>|> >	before it becomes the twenty first!
>|> >
>|> >	If you have and still insist on your archaic basis for mating, try
>|> >	Isreal. [sic]
>|> >
>|> >						Tim the Lemur
>|> 
>|> Tim, stuff it.  Didn't you read what she wrote?  Her religion forbids it.
>|> You can call religion an archaic basis for mating, but the majority of
>|> the world happens not to agree with you.  
>|> 
>|> Michael
>
>
>Ohhhhh, stuff it huh!
>Give me a break kid....
>First: Never consider yourself the majority of the world.
>       There is no such thing...
>
Nonsense.  I bet a majority of the people in the world believe that
murder is wrong.  There's a majority for you bud and I'm in it.

>Second: So if you met a wonderful ethnic woman whom you loved very
>	much, and couldn't live without, you would pass her up on
>	religious grounds?

Yes, Absolutely!  In fact, I dated a Sunni Muslim.  Because my religion is 
part of who I am  and her religion is part of who she is the dating stopped. 
Just because you apparently have no firmly held religious views does not 
invalidate the religious views of others.  

>I think it's about time humans got over limiting themselves to 
>"their own kind"  let me tell ya, we are all the same kind, regardless
>of race, color, background and yes...religion.  
>So why don't you buy into the twentith century as well Mikey...

You tell others to 'never consider yourself the majority of the world' and
then turn around and pretend to be the majority yourself.  You state the 
we are all the same and expose why the world should conform to *YOUR*
idea.  Further, your high handed "let me tell ya" implies that you IMAGINE
yourself an expert. I would go on refuting you, but I remembered Proverbs

20:3 It is an honor for a man to cease from strife, but every fool will
        be meddling.

and

26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like 
       unto him.
 
Derek
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From: markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance,alt.romance.chat,soc.penpals
Subject: Re: Do you have a good pickup line?
Date: 31 Dec 1992 18:33:25 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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In article <Dec30.003237.35917@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> cs151kx@lamar.ColoState.EDU () writes:
>	I would like to make a composite of all the pick up lines that you 
>	have heard in your life and how they have come across. 


Are you [here] alone tonight?
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Picking up the Tab (was: Re: What is gold-digging?)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 06:19:16 GMT

In article <8059@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
>
>This sounds like a good idea to me too.  However, given my current financial
>state, I could *maybe* affort McDonald's for two.  I guess that means I
>just can't ask anyone out until I inherit money, or something.  

Heck, no--you just suggest activities that aren't so expensive.  Personally,
(no doubt this will get me branded eternally as a cheapskate) I prefer 
inviting someone over for dinner at my house rather than a restaurant
anyway--I think it's a better atmosphere for getting to know someone
(after all, how could I possibly get serious about anyone without finding
out how she reacted to my books or my Legos?), there are fewer distractions,
and there's much less worry that you'll end up having to wait hours for a
table, get terrible service, and end up eating lousy food.  Alternatively,
there are art museums, parks, and lots of other places that are free or
nearly so.

Indeed, if it made you more comfortable, I think you'd even have a reasonable
success rate by suggesting something like, "I'd really like to ask you out,
but I'm a little short on funds at the moment, so would you like to go on
a picnic with me?"

Trygve   (Actually, there are a number of real restaurants where you can
          eat quite well for less than a full meal at McDonald's costs.)

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Trygve's family
Organization: Don't blame me, I voted for Bill 'n' Opus
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 03:18:46 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.075900.21777@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>Trygve   (Speaking of which, if you've got a copy of the 12/28/92 issue
>          of "Business Week" handy, turn to page 117-118 where you can 
>          see a picture of my father whom they've selected as "Best 
>          Commodity Fund Manager.")

So, who's Sherry Lode?  Is she one of your seesters?  (page 106, in case
you weren't paying attention)
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                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Virtual anniversary: 8 days and counting
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: phantasm@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Hypocrisy...
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 22:38:19 GMT


Greetings Meloney...

blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:

>
>> Why is it any more of a close-minded criterium then any other criteria like
>> intelligence, humor, physical characteristc, geographic location, level
>> of education, lifestyle compatibility, sexual preference, etc?
>
> This argument, and others like it, smack close to hypocracy- 

For neither man nor angel can discern
Hypocrisy, the only evil that walks
Invisible, except to God alone.

	-Milton

But perhaps there is more to this blowfish than I know...

> Substitute that one lady's griping of dating material with 'educated' for
> 'jewish' and 'surrounded by health-nuts' for 'surrounded by christians'
> and the two arguments would be identical.
>
> And the argument against that is the same- if you restrict yourself to a 
> limited selection of dating material, then you have no right to bitch that 
> there is a lack of dating material that meets your dating criterium.

He draweth out the thread of his verbosity finer than the staple
of his argument...

I do not recall that the Lady was bitching...

But my perceptions may be less than those of this blowfish...

You, Meloney, state:

> I specifically, and quite intentionally did not state anything about MY
> criteria or whether I had any at all...

and

> Just because I may limit my selection to men who absolutely adore me, who
> have unusually high sexual drives, a sense of humor to entertain me
> endlessly, an intelligence to keep me alert and a physique that drives
> me wild with lust...

I can not help but be curious...

phantasm

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: fsquared@eff.org (Fawn Fitter)
Subject: Re: Newspaper "personals"
Originator: fsquared@eff.org
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:28:48 GMT

aguilbault@galaxy.gov.bc.ca writes:

>Serious Question: Do newspaper "Personals" advertisements work?  What kind
>of experiences (good and bad) have _net_ people had?  What techniques can
>make them work better?



I ran a personal ad in a local paper this past summer and met a bunch of
really nice guys (as well as a truckload of bozos).  Matter of fact, one 
has become a business connection, one is a good friend, and one...well,
guess who's my New Year's Eve date?  We've been seeing each other for almost
5 months now.  No one believes how we met.

Here's the trick:  you don't want to run your ad in a sleazebucket rag, you
don't want to sound desperate (even -- and especially -- if you are), you
want to sound like you're looking for friendship, not sex, and you want to
present yourself as you really are.  In other words, an ad saying "Italian
stallion looking for hot filly to race with" is not going to get you much
of a response...

As far as I can tell, women get more responses to their ads than men do,
and women under 40 have the highest response rate of all.  FWIW.

>Alan  (nice straight guy)

If you come across as a nice guy in your ad, you'll do just fine.  Give it
a try.  The nice thing about being the person who _places_ the ad is that
the proverbial ball is in your court -- you have someone else's phone number,
you meet them at a neutral spot, and if you don't like them, you don't have
to give them your number or even tell them your last name.  The worst thing
that can happen is that you'll have dinner with someone you'll never see 
again.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kevin@clsi.COM (Kevin Cameron)
Subject: Re: Ankle bracelets
Originator: kevin@dubhe
Reply-To: kevin@clsi.com
Organization: CAD Language Systems Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 17:21:47 GMT


stevek@netcom.com (Steve Kile) writes:
> I'd like to ask the ladies of the net (tm) to answer a question for me.  I
> frequent a couple of restaurants where the waitresses wear ankle bracelets
> (is that the correct terminology?)  These girls are mostly high school or
> college age.  I don't recall this type of jewelery being worn during my high
> school or college days.  Is this a new fad?  What is the significance of
> wearing it on the right versus left ankle?  Thanks.

Hey! - someone else that finds ankle bracelets incredibly sexy ? :->

Kev.
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 12:59:22 EST
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
 <1992Dec29.172417.11540@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> <4516@cvbnetPrime.COM>

In article <4516@cvbnetPrime.COM>, tmcinern@newcomer.NoSubdomain.NoDomain
(Timothy McInerney x0 14-2) says:
>
>Ohhhhh, stuff it huh!
>Give me a break kid....
>First: Never consider yourself the majority of the world.
>       There is no such thing...
>
>Second: So if you met a wonderful ethnic woman whom you loved very
>        much, and couldn't live without, you would pass her up on
>        religious grounds?
>
>I think it's about time humans got over limiting themselves to
>"their own kind"  let me tell ya, we are all the same kind, regardless
>of race, color, background and yes...religion.
>So why don't you buy into the twentith century as well Mikey...

Well, if I really thought I 'couldn't live without her' (as opposed to
being deeply saddened by her departure from my life) my brain has
melted, and I hope someone would have the kindness to stick my
head in a bucket of ice water until it congealed.  (say, in a day
or two.)

You're 'one truthing' on 'religion isn't important'.  That is not
a good axiom to generalize to the whole population.

I would certainly not get seriously romantically involved with someone
who was a member of a One Truth religion, no matter how wonderful
they were otherwise.

Graydon
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer)
Subject: Re: Woman: will you go out with shorter man?
Date: 28 Dec 92 08:55:00 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation, Redmond, WA
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Dec23.072717.20733@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>In article <1992Dec20.072245.5889@microsoft.com> jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer) writes:
>>...sometimes I get into a "I'm-so-tall-and-fat-and-bulky-and-
>>clumsy-and-big" mood, and I want to be with someone BIGGER so I'll feel
>>better.
>
>Well, next time you're feeling big and clumsy, just think of me--6'4",
>wearing XXXL-Tall shirts, and--in repeated consummate displays of
>clumsiness--in the process of learning just how much more annoying having
>to have to turn at an angle to get one's shoulders through a doorway is
>when on crutches.

Oh baby. Poor thing. Sounds like you need to come northwest for
some serious taking-care-of....

>Trygve   (Alas, however, I think my shoulders are a little too firm to
>          be called 'pudgy.')

-jen
 That ain't fat on my chest, neither.
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Breaking up is hard to do....
Date: 2 Jan 93 18:47:50 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:

>I've found that the "just stop calling" method is not all that uncommon,
>but I do think that it's very unfair to the other party.  (I wonder a
>little whether the popularity of this method is in part due to the ego
>boost one can derive from leaving someone else dangling for extended
>periods of time.)  

Maybe, but I think most people do it because of (a) fear of confrontation
and (b) a misguided impression that it's less hurtful to just cut off
contact with the person. (On a recent plane trip from Detroit to Chicago, I
was talking to a woman who confessed to having done this to someone...
fortunately he set her straight by telling her that it would have been a
lot easier on him if she had just told him to get out of her face.)

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From: tps@jptcs.COM (Tim Sailer)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Women, Cats, & Chocolate
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:04:53 GMT
Organization: JPT Computer Solutions
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

quirke_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz wrote:
: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) writes:
: :drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max) writes:
: 
: :    Naw, I don't do that - I'm allergic to cats - but if you don't mind I'll 
: :    bring my ferret. He's so good at uh ferreting out all the loopholes in the 
: :    pre-dinner contract.
:  
: : I guess I'll have to bring my badger.  They are very good a badgering
: : folks until they pay the bill...
: 
:    I myself would bring a duck, just in case the bill's total sent me into a
: fowl mood.

Hey! That kind of fowl language is for the birds!






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From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: How come we aren't getting it?
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:30:22 GMT
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu's message of 23 Dec 92 07:12:03 GMT


In article <1992Dec23.071203.20008@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:

   in <92350.175451U60703@uicvm.uic.edu> U60703@uicvm.uic.edu writes:

   ] My feelings are that you are an intelligent/friendly group of people...
   ] (okay ...well...sometimes silly/immature/irrational...but...hey...who's
   ] perfect? :)

   ] My Ques -> So how come we aren't getting it? Why are we still closing off
   ]            that part of ourselves that may enable us to learn to under-
   ]            stand each other so we can mutually get what we desire???

   Well, first of all, it's not quite that simple:  not only do you want
   love, intimacy, support, sharing etc., you want it from the right
   person--and, just to make things more difficult, that person has to be
   able to supply these things to you and want to do so.

   [ excellant comments excised ]

What he said.

Trygve, I just want to compliment you on an absolutely wonderful
post.  You are a scholar, and a gentleman.





Spidey!!!





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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: crafts@athena.mit.edu (The Invisible Man)
Subject: Beauty is only skin deep (was RE: Females have it easy)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 19:05:44 GMT

Ok,

Most men claim not to find certain supermodel types physically
attractive because they look generic or plastic or otherwise
phoney. If you really do feel that way, hey, different strokes
for different folks. 

I find Cindy Crawford and other assorted supermodels atrractive.
That doesn't mean I want that image of a woman to be my life
partner, because who wants to spend the rest of their life with
an image? Yes they are good looking, some are great looking, and
I've met women who don't model who look even better, in my eyes.
But looks will only take you so far. Yeah, I would be more inclined
to talk to a very attractive person if I had a choice but if I
have nothing to talk to her about then what is the point.

Beauty is only skin deep. It is what is underneath that counts.
Cliched? Yes, sure but oh so true. Give me a sensitive and intelligent
plain jane instead of a supermodel savant anyday, but I wouldn't not
go out with a supermodel rocket scientist.

Some guys unfortunately have their brains between their legs and don't
appreciate the attention they get from some women who wouldn't be 
supermodel material. The guys that don't have to learn to SPEAK UP.
It's easy to post that you're different but let the woman at the terminal
next to you know that. And be persistent, don't let setbacks set you
back. You women out there reading should pay attention too....
This is 1993, practically and you shouldn't be afraid to take the 
initiative. Don't waste your time dropping hints, pick the man up.
He'd appreciate it. I've yet to meet a guy who was offended by a woman
who had asked him out.

My contribution to this thread....

Dan
crafts@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.women,soc.men,ba.singles,misc.legal
From: whedon@netcom.com (Bill Whedon)
Subject: Re: Pre-Sex Contract
Keywords: Kevin, shithouse-lawyer, rohwerd, bullshit-contract
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 08:46:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.231434.20732@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
>In article <1992Dec20.055251.21861@netcom.com> whedon@netcom.com (Bill Whedon) writes:
>>Jesus Hyman Christ, people!  Were it not for the occasional glints of humour
>>in the writings of Desiree and Jackie, my "n" key would be worn out by now.
>>

>Do you have something to contribute to the discussion besides impotent
>pissing and whining, Mr. Whedon?

No, Kevin, I take my lead from you and rohwer.   Why should you get to be the
only impotent pissing whiners in this dumbass discussion?  If you're gonna
continue to belabor the topic with your limp little barbs, why, you gotta 
expect that some other limp barber will come after you with his razor-dull
wit, no?  Shit, guy, I'm having fun with you gits.  You seem to take all of
this so seriously!  ("Mr. Whedon", indeed! )  Desiree, Jackie, they're all
yours, now.  I was gonna say I've softened 'em up, but I don't think that'd
really be necessary...
Bill Whedon   whedon@netcom.com
-- 
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From: tw1u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Tse-Sung Wu)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance,soc.penpals,alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Do you have a good pickup line?
Date: 31 Dec 92 04:07:28 GMT
Organization: Doctoral student, Engineering and Public Policy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

On 30-Dec-92 in Do you have a good pickup l..
user cs151kx@lamar.ColoState. writes:
>	I would like to make a composite of all the pick up lines that you 
>	have heard in your life and how they have come across. 
>		LADIES, THIS MEANS YOU TOOO! LETS HEAR 'EM
> 
>		WHAT IS THE CRAZIEST LINE YOU HAVE EVER HEARD?
>		DID IT WORK?
> 
>		here's  a few just to get things rolling, these along with
>		all those i recieve will be posted every week or so, so that
>		you all can try your luck in places other that the alt.personals
>		or ads.

I was *just* going to post such a request.  Here're mine, but fictional.
 From _She's gotta have it_:

"Slim, you so fine I'd drink a tub o' yo' bathwater."  

"Congress has just approved for you my MX moisture-seeking missile."

tse-sung
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Oh God, they're back....
Date: 30 Dec 92 11:27:58 GMT
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper

cs151kx@lamar.ColoState.EDU () writes:

[ ambient noise floor deleted. ]

did anyone get this awesum stud a decent
pickup line, so he can get beyond the
posting stage?

My recommendation is:

"want to come up to my terminal room and
see the neat new cobol program I am writing?"

It should work.

ciao
drieux


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From: pooh@Apple.COM (Pooh)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: SF ISO S*M
Date: 22 Dec 92 12:47:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Internet Refugee Camp

In the referenced article, keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard) writes:
>Yes Wong, I agree with you whoeheartedly.  If you
>get a woman in her 30's who has been living on her own
>for a while, and who is independent, then you might
>as well forget her.  She is used to doing what she wants
>when she wants, and she won't be interested in a man tying
>her down.  

Well, I can definitely agree about doing what I want when
I want, but who said anything about number three??? ;-)

(Flame to follow in the next article.)

Pooh
	pooh@apple.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Fetishes?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 22:50:28 GMT

In article <277@cnmhnet.UUCP> keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard) writes:
>In article <1992Dec24.071343.25853@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>>I've got a friend I ought to introduce you to--she's got cute little
>>feet, size 5EEE.  She can do tricks with them too--I haven't actually
>>seen a demonstration, but she claims to be able to crack walnuts 
>>between her toes.
>
>Well, I've got to admit that a size 5 foot sounds delicious.
>However, that "EEE" designation has me concerned.  I mean, how
>wide is that foot?  And if she can crack walnuts between her
>toes, I am hesitant to caress them because they probably have
>a significant callous buildup.  However, I will keep an open
>mind, and I'd look forward to the opportunity to investigate
>this further.  Thanks.

Oh, just imagine a baby's foot--now expand it to adult size without
changing the proportions.

Trygve   (Just remember to be nice to her, or you might end up getting
          a demonstration of her ability to crack nuts between her toes.)

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