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From: miura@syrinx.ntt.jp (MIURA Fumiaki)
Newsgroups: fj.rec.travel,fj.books
Subject: Re: Book of "TOSHI DENSETSU"
Date: 9 Nov 92 04:32:42 GMT
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From: sirasaki@aistgw.rd.ecip.osaka-u.ac.jp (Hiroo Shirasaki)
Newsgroups: fj.rec.travel
Subject: Re: Info needed: China, Korea!
Date: 9 Nov 92 04:50:31 GMT
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In-reply-to: sleepy@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp's message of 7 Nov 92 10:16:49 GMT

>>>>> On 7 Nov 92 10:16:49 GMT, sleepy@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (NAKAMURA Kouzi) said:
sleepy> Officially, foreigners may not have nor use the domestic currency
sleepy> (RMB).  (But you can actually use RMB in most cases with no trouble).

  NO. It's no problem if you have or use RMB officially.

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From: sleepy@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (NAKAMURA Kouzi)
Subject: Re: Info needed: China, Korea!
Reply-To: sleepy@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Organization: Dept. of Information Science, the Univ. of Tokyo, Japan.
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 07:43:21 GMT


In article <SIRASAKI.92Nov9135031@aistgw.rd.ecip.osaka-u.ac.jp>
sirasaki@aistgw.rd.ecip.osaka-u.ac.jp (Hiroo Shirasaki) writes:

 > >>>>> On 7 Nov 92 10:16:49 GMT, sleepy@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (NAKAMURA Kouzi) said:
 > sleepy> Officially, foreigners may not have nor use the domestic currency
 > sleepy> (RMB).  (But you can actually use RMB in most cases with no trouble).
 > 
 > sleepy> You can get RMB only for change or by black-market exchange.
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By the way,

Try Chinese green teas, if you like. You can't taste them in
Japan because Japanese government do not allow to import them.


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From: sirasaki@aistgw.rd.ecip.osaka-u.ac.jp (Hiroo Shirasaki)
Newsgroups: fj.rec.travel
Subject: Re: Info needed: China, Korea!
Date: 11 Nov 92 12:33:48 GMT
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In-reply-to: sleepy@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp's message of 11 Nov 92 07:43:21 GMT

>>>>> On 11 Nov 92 07:43:21 GMT, sleepy@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (NAKAMURA Kouzi) said:
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From: greve@kddss2.csg.kddlabs.CO.JP (Ron Greve)
Subject: Re: Info needed: China, Korea!
Organization: /users/greve/.organization
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:28:54 GMT
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								04-11-10

Konnichiwa mina-san,

Thanks all of you who replied to my posting on this net and especially 
Sugihara-san for his translation service. 

As some of you already mentioned I was indeed a little bit vague with some 
of my questions. Let me be more concrete now.

ogata@etl.go.jp says ..
> How long do you have time, to go from Beijing to Shanghai? What kind
> of things are you interested in? What do you want to see?
> If you just want to move, there are five air plane a day.

I have about 13 days to spent in China. What I definitely want to see is
Beijing and Shanghai. Because I think there are not many interesting places 
between Beijing and Shanghai (please tell me if I am wrong), my idea was 
just moving from Beijing to Shanghai. BTW, I think the plane is too expensive.

I want to stay at least 3 days in both Beijing and Shanghai. How I will spent
the rest of my time is still open. I am basically in for everything. Any 
suggestions for interesting places outside the 2 main cities?

On my question about a budget hotel in Tienshin ogata@etl.go.jp says ..
> I think Lonely Planet has it's answer.

Lonely Planet only says that there are no good places in Tienshin unless 
you have the money or you can work yourself into a chinese hotel or into
a campus of a foreign language institute. This is however very hard without 
a white ID student card which is impossible to obtain if you are not a 
Chinese resident.

Finally three questions of Sugihara-san:

> Well, my question: Is it be all right if I include Japanese Kanji,
> with English, in article ?
Sure. 

> Is Lonely planet China not telling about detailed way to cross
> border by ferry?  (One Japanese guide book has info about it)
Lonely Planet says nothing.

> and basic question: Did you get visa of Korea and China, or you know
> how to get? You see, it is hard to obtain for a individual traveler.
Today I applied for a VISA at the Chinese embassy. It will take a week.
For Korea you don't need one.

Thanks a lot for your cooperation again!

Sayonara,
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From: ogata@etl.go.jp (Ichiro Ogata)
Newsgroups: fj.rec.travel
Subject: Re: Info needed: China, Korea!
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:13:09 GMT
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Organization: Electrotechnical Lab.

In article <GREVE.92Nov10192854@kddss2.csg.kddlabs.CO.JP>
greve@kddss2.csg.kddlabs.CO.JP (Ron Greve) writes:

>I have about 13 days to spent in China. What I definitely want to see is
>Beijing and Shanghai. Because I think there are not many interesting places 
>between Beijing and Shanghai (please tell me if I am wrong), my idea was 
>just moving from Beijing to Shanghai. BTW, I think the plane is too expensive.

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>Lonely Planet only says that there are no good places in Tienshin unless 
>you have the money or you can work yourself into a chinese hotel or into
>a campus of a foreign language institute. This is however very hard without 
>a white ID student card which is impossible to obtain if you are not a 
>Chinese resident.

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From: greve@kddss2.csg.kddlabs.CO.JP (Ron Greve)
Subject: Japan to China - Traveller cheque problem
Organization: /users/greve/.organization
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:47:34 GMT
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								04-11-06

Hello out there,

I have a bank account in Holland, at the moment I am in Japan, and very soon
I will go to Korea and China. My problem is now where should I buy my traveller 
cheques and in which currency? There are a few options:

1) With my master card I cash money from my bank account in Holland. In this way
   I can only obtain money in Japanese currency (Yen). Next I change my Japanese
   money into US$ and buy traveller cheques in US$. Problem is that I have to 
   change between currencies many times (Dutch -> Japanese -> American -> Chinese).
   Not so efficient I guess.

2) Instead of buying traveller cheques in US$ I buy traveller cheques in Yen.

3) I don't buy traveller cheques in Japan and use my master card in Korea and China 
   to obtain traveller cheques in the local currency.

4) I don't buy any traveller cheques at all and only use my credit card in Korea 
   and China to obtain cash money in the local currency.

- Is there anybody who can give me some advice? 

- Is my credit card (master card, not visa card) widely accepted in Korea and 
  especially in China? 

- Can I use traveller cheques of Japanese currency (Yen) in Korea and China. Are
  the equally accepted as US$ traveller cheques?

Another problem is that China has two currencies. When I cash money in China, 
what is the best ammount, in percentage, for each currency? In case of traveller
cheques, what is the best place to change them.

Thanks a lot!

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From: s91437gm@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Godai Murata)
Subject: Re: Info needed: China, Korea!
Organization: Keio University Shonan Fujisawa Campus.
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From: sleepy@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (NAKAMURA Kouzi)
Subject: Re: Info needed: China, Korea!
Reply-To: sleepy@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Organization: Dept. of Information Science, the Univ. of Tokyo, Japan.
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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 10:16:49 GMT


Hi.

I know only a bit about China...

In article <GREVE.92Nov4194958@kddss2.csg.kddlabs.CO.JP>
greve@kddss2.csg.kddlabs.CO.JP (Ron Greve) writes:

 > From Beijing I want to travel to Shanghai. Again, I have no idea what the
 > best route is (train/boat).

No boat, I think. If you fail to get a train ticket of 'hard bed'
class, consider airplane whose fare is cheaper than 'soft bed' class
train. You can FEEL over-billion people in 'Hard seat' class car, and
will need a rest for a few days after.

 > Last question. Is China a save country?

I think China is one of safest country in the world (of cource, Japan
is exceptional).


In article <GREVE.92Nov6114734@kddss2.csg.kddlabs.CO.JP>
greve@kddss2.csg.kddlabs.CO.JP (Ron Greve) writes:

 > - Is my credit card (master card, not visa card) widely accepted in Korea
 >   and especially in China? 

In my knowledge, only hotels of higest classes and foreign airlines
accept credit cards in China. CAAC (airlines operated by China) do not
accept credit cards. I'm afraid you cannot cash money (of any country)
with your card in China.


 > - Can I use traveller cheques of Japanese currency (Yen) in Korea and 
 >   China. Arethe equally accepted as US$ traveller cheques?

Yes, in China.


 > Another problem is that China has two currencies. When I cash money
 > in China, what is the best ammount, in percentage, for each currency?

Officially, foreigners may not have nor use the domestic currency
(RMB).  (But you can actually use RMB in most cases with no trouble).
You can get RMB only for change or by black-market exchange.  Now
exchange rate in black-market was only 1.05-1.10 to 1 in Canton (typo?
Major city near HonKong) on March 1992.  I think it's not worth
exchanging.  Exception is: if you go to coutryside where few
foreigners have visited, people may not have seen FEC (Foreign
Exchangable Currency??) and may refuse to accept it.  At least you are
requested to pay by FEC when buying airplane and train tickets, and at
most of hotels.

 > In case of traveller
 > cheques, what is the best place to change them.

In china, exchange rate is the same everywhere. Big hotels are
useful.


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From: sirasaki@aistgw.rd.ecip.osaka-u.ac.jp (Hiroo Shirasaki)
Newsgroups: fj.rec.travel
Subject: Re: Info needed: China, Korea (with my false Japanese translation)
Date: 9 Nov 92 04:37:47 GMT
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>>>>> On 9 Nov 92 01:57:58 GMT, ogata@etl.go.jp (Ichiro Ogata) said:
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From: hirata@mrigwa.mri.co.jp (Naotsugu Hirata)
Newsgroups: fj.rec.travel.world
Subject: twin peaks tour ?
Date: 10 Nov 92 03:44:18 GMT
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> From: ogata@etl.go.jp (Ichiro Ogata)
> Newsgroups: fj.rec.travel.world
> Subject: [Alaska] kakuyasu koukuuken to Alaska
> Date: 16 Jul 92 10:48:29 GMT

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From: kenji@sras25.sra.co.jp (Kenji Satoh)
Subject: Re: [Israel] help me!
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