From: wiener@duke.cs.duke.edu (Edward Wiener)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: No end to Ustashe lies
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:26:48 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

Zlatko Sijercic writes:

>In the last couple weeks netnews comunity witnessed rude postings
>from alleged Russian Jew who call himself Eduard Wiener.
>I would normaly not question his identity but something just stinks here.
>First of all look at his e-mail address:
>
>
>---->  From: wiener@duke.cs.duke.edu (Edward Wiener)
>
>Note a name Edward. Now look at his signature:
>
>---->   -- Eduard Wiener



      Silly boy, my given name is Eduard, but I've used Edward
      since arriving in the States, as it makes it is easier
      for Americans to pronounce.


>This time it is Eduard. This inconsistency repeats in almost every
>of his postings.
>
>Second, he is THE most vigorous defender of Serbian policy of genoside
>and economic destruction of non-Serb population in ex-Yugoslavia on the net.



      This is nonsense and I challenge you to prove it.
      I have never sanctioned Serb atrocities in Bosnia-
      and-Herzegovina.  It is the Croats on this net, however,
      who cheer the destruction of Orthodox Churches, who revise
      history to sweep under the rug 600,000 Serb and Jewish
      victims of Ustashe dictatorship, who call the expulsion
      of all Serbs form Croatia and Bosnia.  IT IS YOUR COUNTRYMEN
      who defend genocide.  READ THEIR POSTINGS; THEY'VE MADE
      NO EFFORT TO HIDE THEIR INTENTIONS.



>Third, he is very well informed about Balkan and on the other hand,
>he is not active on soc.culture.jewish, but rather on soc.culture.yugoslavia
>and soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna.



>Fourth, his posting are full strange alleged facts, like his grand-father was
>killing Croats in Jasenovac!?, he has no links to Israel, open hartred towards
>Croats and Muslims etc.


      Hatred for Croats and Muslims?  Are you mad?  I've not
      uttered a word about Muslims, and my criticism of Croats
      is limited to the Government of Croatia and to flag-
      waving Ustashe such as Chicago Cro, Matanic, Ljubicic,
      and yourself.

      I'd like to remind those netters who don't know what this
      lunatic is writing about that one Damir Matanic claimed to
      have had e-mail contact with me.  Damir writes in s.c.yugo
      (Date: 5 Oct 92 19:16:31 GMT):

           "You said that your grandfather did the killing in
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^
            Jasenovac.  You told me this in the private letter
            that you sent me."

      =========================================================
      However, in another posting (Date: 2 Oct 92 02:52:51 GMT)
      he wrote:

          "You said that your father did the killing in Jasenovac.
                              ^^^^^^ 
           So, he was Croatian huh?      An Ustasa ?!?!?!?!?!?"

      ==========================================================


      As you can all see, Damir is a liar, plain and simple.
      This will be shown conclusively within the week, as I have
      challenged him to provide ANY evidence that I ever made
      such a claim.  Zlatko, your reputation is plunging
      VERY quickly.


>Fifth, he has a network of Serbian supporters who are sometimes "defending"
>what he can not.


      I have not requested any assistance from Serb posters;
      consequently, it is their right to post whatever they wish.


>I could go on and on why I am suspicious that Edward (Eduard) Wiener is not
>the name of the person posting all that garbage. I am also not convinced that
>he is a Russian Jew. I think that he might be a Serb or that a Serb is using
>his e-mail address.
>
>Regards,
>
>Zlatko Sijercic



      Those are words of desperation, of an inability to
      justify your hatred of Serbs and Jews.  I find
      your desperate postings an amusing development.


-- Eduard Wiener