From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.perot
Subject: Re: State by State Poll Results
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:03:00 GMT
	<1992Oct12.164012.27372@Princeton.EDU>
Followup-To: talk.politics.misc
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
In-reply-to: niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU's message of 12 Oct 92 16:40:12 GMT

niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) writes:
|In article <BvzMI3.556@doppler.ncsc.org> kmoore@ncsc.org (Kevin Moore) writes:
|>How is it that Clinton has no lead in Arkansas? Are they wiser
|>to this guy than the rest of the nation? After watching the debate today,

|Here's a little postal lesson.
|AL=Alabama.  AZ= Arizona.  AK=Alaska.  

|**** AR= Arkansas ****

|He DOES have a lead in Arkansas.  A large lead.  More than twice as much
|as his nearest competitor.  Rather, ask why Bush doesn't have a real
|lead in *Texas*.  (40-35-14)  Or Maine, (30-44-11), or any of Bush's
|other "home states", like Connecticut (33-47-9).

Bush is doomed.  One can say this without partisanship.

|>I could see why they call him Slick Willy. Everything was a draw on your
|>emotions. Perot and Bush were much better at not making me feel like he
|>was trying to pull one over on me. That does not even begin to discuss
|>what was said. I think Perot clearly came out ahead (though he has nothing
|>to lose and everything to gain from the anti-establishment crowd). I would
|>put Bush one up on Clinton. Clinton did nothing to shake the "you can't
|>trust me" label.

|There's nothing he *can* do to shake a label only put on him by biased
|persons.  I don't understand why sounding informed is a bad thing, while
|sounding like you've never studied the issues ("unrehearsed") is a good thing.

Ironically, the "unrehearsed" thing is an emotional ploy to be an
outsider.  Paradoxically, normal folx want to hear "more specifics"
but want someone to look unrehearsed.  Ridiculous.

|Perot clearly did the best in *this* debate, since he didn't have to
|give any specifics at all, and he came out looking almost Presidential.

Almost.  The most important thing is he can die tommorrow and know
that his obituary will be much kinder than it would have bben last
week.

|But on the grounds that all that really matters is who wins the
|election, *Clinton* won the debate hands down, because nothing happened
|to damage his campaign.

Treu.

|Bush babbled -- blamed everyone except himself, contradicted himself about
|statements he made just the other day.

True, *but* by and large he seemed relaxed and presidential.

|I liked Ross's Bush-bashing, though.

This was very important!  It neutralized Bush but left Clinton
untouched.
--
Peace.
         "It's rural America.  It's where I came from.  
          We always refer to ourselves as real America.  
          Rural America, real America, real, real, America."
                      -- Vice President Dan Quayle
                                   -\--/-
    Don't just adopt opinions     |  \/  |       Some of you are homeboys
          develop them.           |  /\  | but only I am The Homeboy From hell
                                   -/--\-

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