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From:         Christ Eric <MECHRIST@EMUBUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Again, On-line MBAs

From the American Assembly of Collegiate Schools of Business's newsletter,
"NEWSLINE", Summer 1992 issue, page 19.

"New Programs, New Methods"

	Elsewhere, some MBA students are plugging in their PCs at home
and sending their assignments to the University of Phoenix b-school.
	The school has 200 on-line MBA students for its 2 1/2 year
on-line education program.  Each Phoenix student is expected to "attend"
school five days a week.  Professors monitor the students' written
contributions to on-line class discussions, which can extend over
several days.

	Another school, Purdue, has delivered a significant portion
of its executive education program since 1983 using directed
self-study, off-campus, computer-based communications to supplement
the intensive residencies on campus.
From: kchiles@teton.llnl.gov (Keith Chiles)
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Subject: Re: Saginaw Valley State University or others Providing On-line MBA
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:54:33 GMT
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Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Dear MBA Netland,

For those who have inquired about the University
of Phoenix on-line MBA program, I have a toll free
number that you may call for information:
1-800-388-5463.

I do not endorse this program.  I graduated from 
the normal University of Phoneix program and feel
that this kind of education should be available to 
everyone.  I have no information about internet
access, but I have a call into them for information.

Cheers, Keith 
kchiles@arac.llnl.gov
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:32:46 CDT
From:         Gary Jarrell <C604441@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      Info on MBA

Hi I am a Senior going to school at U of Missouri, but will receive my degree
from U of Maryland, Overseas division.  It will be in computer science.  I am
looking for a very good MBA program with an emphasis on MIS.  If anyone has any
suggestions, please e-mail to keep the load on the net low.

Thanks, Gary Jarrell <c604441@mizzou1.missouri.edu>
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From:         MECHRIST@EMUBUS.BITNET
Subject:      RE: Info on MBA

I've heard good things about the Computer Integrated Manufacturing
concentration at George Tech's graduate School of Management.  Good
combination of a business curriculum plus computer/technology courses.

Cheers,
Eric


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Hi I am a Senior going to school at U of Missouri, but will receive my
degree from U of Maryland, Overseas division.  It will be in computer
science.  I am looking for a very good MBA program with an emphasis on MIS.
If anyone has anysuggestions, please e-mail to keep the load on the net low.

Thanks, Gary Jarrell <c604441@mizzou1.missouri.edu>
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:18:10 CST
From:         "Stephen P. Cohen, m.s., m.b.a." <STEVEC@MCES.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: MBA on-line

> From:       Craig Gardiner <CDG@ARLAN.BYU.EDU>

[stuff deleted]

>               However, is this convenience worth it in the long run
> when the reputation of your school may be more important to your
> employers/peers than the degree itself?

To which I reply:

What?  Worth it?  Worth what?  You mean, you are not interested in
getting the MBA for the sake of knowledge and the degree itself?  I
must say, MBA program quality may vary among schools, but only for the
marginal student.  The true student, the one who studies for the joy
of learning, will not be materially affected by the particular
school's reputation.  This quality shines in interviews, if only
prospective employers would come to Mississippi State ...
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Stephen P. Cohen, m.s., m.b.a.            |SteveC@MCES.MsState.Edu
Manager, Systems & Networks               |Post Office Box 5446
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:25:00 EDT
From:         Christ Eric <MECHRIST@EMUBUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Social Issues in B-schools

From the AACSB's newsletter, NEWSLINE, Summer 1992 issue, page 19.

"Enhancing The Pipeline"

	Meantime, on the East Coast, Boston College is putting
social issues on its MBA curriculum.  In August, incoming graduate
students at BC's Carroll School of Management spent two days
focusing on such issues as poverty, race and the environment.
Second-year MBA students also will be required to spend two
hours a week with an inner-city student "tutoring, advising
and relationship-building."
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:38:00 EDT
From:         Christ Eric <MECHRIST@EMUBUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Again, On-line MBAs

From the American Assembly of Collegiate Schools of Business's newsletter,
"NEWSLINE", Summer 1992 issue, page 19.

"New Programs, New Methods"

	Elsewhere, some MBA students are plugging in their PCs at home
and sending their assignments to the University of Phoenix b-school.
	The school has 200 on-line MBA students for
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From:         Terry Brainerd Chadwick <CWTC@PSUORVM.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: NAFTA

The text of the Draft NAFTA can be found at Washington & Lee University,
courtesy of John Doyle.

Ftp liberty.uc.wlu.edu
The ascii files (about 52, totaling more than 3 mg) are in
pub/lawlib/nafta

You can also telnet to the same address and login as lawlib.


Terry Brainerd Chadwick
International Trade Institute, Portland State University, OR
503-725-5352; fax 503-228-6350
cwtc@psuorvm.bitnet or cwtc@psuorvm.cc.pdx.edu
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Subject:      RE: NAFTA

I haven't had any questions either.  I don't see a need to download them.

Lane D. Rasmussen, Business Librarian ___  _________ Social
Virginia Polytechnic Institute        \  \/ VPI&SU_/ Science &
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PLEASE DO NOT SEND MONEY !
It is with regret that I perform this task. Dr. Gelson V. Gomes. a
professor of the University of Parana, Brazil, has exceeded this
privileges and announced a eletronic course:

> ____________________________________________________________
>        Mastering INTERNET Tools, Seizing METANET Power -
>                      The InterMeta Course
> ____________________________________________________________

I must apologize for this flagrant breach of network etiquette. Please
be aware that Dr. Gelson had no right to do so, since this is against
the rules of our ANSP network, and also against the Bitnet rules.
PLEASE DO NOT SEND MONEY!
I will not discuss what his motivations were. But his account has been
revoked, and there will be no such course through my network.

Please write by normal mail, to:
-> Gelson V. Gomes
-> 358, R. Alvaro Andrade - ap.1201
-> Curitiba PR BRAZIL 80610-240
to get more information on his objectives. He may want to give the
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With regards,
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From:         Jan Tudor <jtudor@WILLAMETTE.EDU>
Subject:      Dialog Business CIP

I am considering the Dialog Business CIP for our small (200 students)
graduate school of business.  I am interested in talking to those of you
who have experience with this program.  How do you administer the passwords?
Are the students allowed to access Dialog outside of the library (e.g. home)?
Do you have on-going training sessions?  Any information or advise you can
offer is appreciated?

Thanks in advance.

Jan Tudor
Willamette University
Salem, OR  97301
503-370-6312
jtudor@willamette.edu
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From:         "Gary Klein (bear at heart)" <FAC2813@UOFT01.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Dun & Bradstreet

     Check the fine print on your contract when you forked over your money for
the MILLION DOLLAR DIRECTORY:  libraries do not buy them, since the contract
clearly describes it as a LEASE!

     D&B "leases" many of its directories, and grants libraries the RIGHT to
retain back issues, but you are corrrect, in that IF you cancel your contract,
you have to ship back ALL OF YOUR COPIES to D&B.

     Our serials acquisition people try to look for that sort of "fine print"
and pass that info back to the Head of Reference and/or the Subject Specialists
whenever they come across another title in our holdings that is LEASED.

     Although one clothing store advertises, "an educated consumer is our best
customer",  in this case it becomes, "an educated librarian becomes our most
disgruntled customer".

     What can you do?

     Hold your breath, and tell the Sales Rep why you are hesitant about
buying:  Overpriced;  You don't like being held hostage;  Manipulative pricing
policies;  Looking for a competitive product which is more reasonably priced.

     Just say no!

     When a sales rep closes a phone conversation with me by saying, "Is there
anything else I can do for you & your library?"  My response always is "YES,
you can lower your prices!"

     But at least some vendors are like D&B, who have LOWER PRICES for
libraries who purchase their materials, instead of MCB, Elsevier, and Haworth
who charge MORE for libraries.  I can see charging more if a client needs to
use Purchase Orders (adding paperwork, bureacracy & delaying the payment cycle)
but many publishers will charge more $$$$$ even if a library pre-paid an order
(just as professors are required to do when subscribing).

     IF YOU DON'T STAND UP AND TELL THESE VENDORS WHAT YOU THINK OF THEIR
PRICING STRUCTURES, WHO IS GOING TO DO IT FOR YOU?

"Librarian, Leather Bound"
      * * * *          Gary Klein,   Business Librarian,  Univ of Toledo
       *   *                     P.O.Box 12650 / Toledo OH 43606
        * *            WORK: 419-537-2629             HOME: 419-243-2740
         *             BITNET:   fac2813@uoft01        FAX: 419-537-2726
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From:         Lucy Heckman <HECKMANL@SJUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Dun & Bradstreet

Regarding Dun & Bradstreet's MILLION DOLLAR DIRECTORY and some of their
other publications, we were told by a representative that libraries may
keep back issues. However, in the event of a cancellation of a subscription
libraries must return all back volumes to Dun & Bradstreet.

Lucy Heckman
Reference Librarian (Business-Economics)
St. John's University Library
From: HURST_JA@CORNING.COM (Jill Ann Hurst 607-974-8358)
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    I argued the Duns leasing agreement with one of their reps at SLA.
    Their rationale is that they don't want old information being used
    by people.  My argument is that a directory that is one year old
    can still be a good starting point in a project.  I don't view
    directories as necessarily being the place that has all
    the information I need, but only the beginning.  She (don't
    remember her name, but seemed to be a moderate big-wig) seemed to
    say that you could option to have your directories updated every
    other year from Duns, instead of every year.

    When I canceled ALL my Duns subscription, I told them it was
    because of cost and the fact that the items were leased.  My rep
    seemed shocked!

    Jill Ann Hurst
    Business Support Library
    Corning Incorporated
    Internet Address: HURST_JA@CORNING.COM
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From:         Mark Sullivan <ALI00MHS@UNCCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Initial offering announcements for convertible bonds

I was in the midst of a research project with a Finance professor when
DIALOG withdrew File 134: Standard & Poor's News backfile, so I'm open
to any advice and help!

The project requires finding the initial offering announcement for convertible
bonds or debentures for about 200 firms, dating from 1977 to 1987.  File 132
took care of 1985-87, but we were relying on File 134 for the rest.  The
information needed is the announced intent for the use of the proceeds, so
Moody's Manuals (which my library has) will not work.  We will be sending
S&P a proposal for a manual search (which costs $75/hr), but would like
some additional options.

Specifically, does anyone else maintain a back file of S&P News in paper form?
Does anyone have an idea what this would cost from Disclosure, or have any
other ideas?


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From:         "Ellen Metter, Auraria Library, Box 101,
              303-556-4516" <EMETTER@CUDNVR.DENVER.COLORADO.EDU>
Subject:      European Community Depository

I have just tapped this database for one survey...I hope you can help me
with one more.  The Gov. Docs. discussion list also helped with this one.
If you are a European Community Depository Library, have things gotten
better?  I heard that there were originally many problems in recieving
 documents.  Also, do you store your collection with Government Documents?  In
 your
business collection?

Any replies would be appreciated.  I'll share the answers with the list.

Ellen Metter
Auraria Library
U. of Colorado at Denver, Metropolitan State College, Community College
of Denver
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From:         tom huehn <thuehn@MACH1.WLU.CA>
Subject:      WANTING TO BUY: Liberal Arts Library

****    please excuse the cross-posting of this message    ***

*********************************************************************

I was asked by the person named below to post this request. You
may respond to him - or myself via e-mail.    Thanks

*********************************************************************

        Palm Beach Atlantic College, a progressive four-year
        liberal arts college located in West Palm Beach, Florida,
        wishes to PURCHASE IMMEDIATELY a small liberal arts
        library.

        Do you know of a college that ( for whatever reason )
        would be interested in selling its collection?

        Could you provide info / contacts on finding out about
        possible libraries for sale?


        Please phone, write or fax:

        Dr. Michel S. Simoneaux
        Academic Dean
        Palm Beach Atlantic College
        901 S. Flagler Drive
        P. O. Box 24708
        West Palm Beach, FL 33416-4708

        tel.  (407) 835-4407
        Fax:  (407) 835-4342


Tom Huehn
thuehn@mach1.wlu.ca

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From:         P.Warning@UTS.EDU.AU
Subject:      "GO" AND MANAGEMENT

I am trying to compile a bibliography of books and articles relating
the Oriental (mainly Japanese now) game of GO to management skills.
So far I have had no luck. Any suggestions?

-------------
regards Peter

************************************

Peter Warning
Faculty Liaison Librarian (Business)
University of Technology, Sydney

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From:         DMARTIN 335-3077 <CADDMLTS@UIAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      NAFTA

Does anyone know if the North American Free Trade Agreement
is available online full text anywhere??

Dave Martin, Univ of Iowa
j-martin@uiowa.edu
319-335-3077
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From:         Ida Lowe <TOABB@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Are daily T-BILL/BOND prices available on electronic media?

The information is on Dow Jones News Retrieval Service, the database is
TRADELINE, and of course accessing this information is not free.

Ida B. Lowe
BARUCH COLLEGE LIBRARY/ CITY UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK
17 Lexington Avenue, Box 262
New York, NY 10010
TEL: (212)447-3372   FAX: (212)447-3380
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From:         Jenny Li <TKUT046@TWNMOE10.BITNET>

Please signoff my subscription of buslib-l
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From:         "Ellen Metter, Auraria Library, Box 101,
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Subject:      NAFTA

Well it's not an online source, but full-text of NAFTA is going to be
on NTDB.  (An NTDB rep. told us at the Mountain Plains Library Conference
that this was "new" so I'm not sure if it's on the current disc or coming
soon...to a computer near you!)

Ellen Metter
Professional Studies Bibliographer
University of Colorado at Denver, Metropolitan State College, and
	Community College of Denver
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From:         PAGELL@WILMA.WHARTON.UPENN.EDU
Subject:      Kendall

We have two extra volume threes of Kendall's 3 volume Advanced Theory
of Statistics - However, we are missing both Volume 2 and Volume 1.

We will be glad to trade our Volume 3 for and 2nd and 3rd edition of Volume
1 or 2.

Please contact me directly.

Thanks


Ruth A Pagell
Associate Director
Lippincott Library, Wharton School
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Subject:      Mastering INTERNET TOOLS

         "Mastering INTERNET Tools, Seizing METANET Power" -
                    "The InterMeta Course"

     Begining on October 10, the InterMeta Course will describe
the History of the Metanetwork and cover the basic utilities used
to access the network, as well as to guide users through the
Internet's, Bitnet's, (and othernets') "databases of databases"
to access files and archives available. Some of the topics to be
presented in the InterMeta Course are how to (1)Remote Login,
(2)Use Electronic Mail, (3)Move a File, (4)Find Software,
(5)Locate a Person, (3)Deal with Network Problems. An index that
covers a selection of resources available on the Internet,
ranging from Card Catalogs to Archives for USENET news will also
be delivered.
     In addition, some sessions will help UNIX, VMS, VAX and DOS
users to interface their systems to the Net.
     Resulting from five years of researching and using the
Network, the InterMeta Course is being prepared by Gelson
Gomes, Ph.D. The InterMeta is the first experience of a Global
Scale Course utilizing a matrix of connected networks, the
Metanetwork.
     Dr. Gomes is a professor at the Federal University of Parana
and is conducting research on the Computer Industries of Brazil
and Taiwan. He got his Doctoral Degree on Science and Technology
Public Policy at The George Washington University (Washington
D.C.).
     The course will be ministered from Brazil; to help
recovering local communication costs, (PDN is very expensive in
Brazil) a flat $ 5 US dollars donation is requested.
     To enroll in the InterMeta Course, please fill in the
application bellow and E-Mail to: Gelson@BRFAPESP.
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Name:
Institution:
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__ Yes, I am sending US$ 5 dollars
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