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From: young@serum.kodak.com [Rich Young] (x37176)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Rescue cat
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:12:14 GMT
Reply-To: young@serum.kodak.com
Organization: Clinical Products Division, Eastman Kodak Company
Originator: young@sasquatch

In article <1992Aug11.225557.18995@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> gck@hector.uucp (24641-kemmerling) writes:
>> 
>> 	Bigfoot, the polydactyl:
>> 
>> 					-Rich
>
>At the risk of sounding stupid - please explain the polydactyl.  
>I've heard of pteradactyl (sp)...  I picture a huge round cat!

	A very wise teacher once told me, "there is nothing stupid about a
	question."

	POLYDACTYL:

	   From the Greek "poly" meaning "many", and "dactylos" meaning
	   "finger", hence "many-fingered"...or in Bigfoot's case, multi-toed.
	   He's hysterical: he's got so many toes, he looks like he's
	   walking on catcher's mitts, and he has to walk with his feet
	   turned out so that he doesn't step on all his toes.  The genetic
	   aberration which results in more than the normal number of toes
	   in cats is called "polydactyly".

	PTERODACTYL:

	   From the Greek "pteron" meaning "wing", and "dactylos", hence
	   "wing-fingered" from the construction of their wings...the bones
	   supporting the wings were actually highly specialized bones which
	   we would equate to our fingers.

	Good grief!!!  Do I sound like a pedantic old teacher, or what?!

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From: kte@INEL.GOV (Kathryn L Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Bathing Kitty
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:31:21 GMT
Reply-To: kte@INEL.GOV (Kathryn L Cook)
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Lab

I gave my cat a bath once.  The cat loved it, but it sure got a lot
of hair on my tongue.

With all of this bath talk I just couldn't resist. :-)

               -kayti
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: mary@ferkel.ucsb.edu (Mary Cardenas)
Subject: Siamese Lost His Voice!  Serious?
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
Distribution: rec.pets.cats
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:20:42 GMT


My siamese Max has lost his voice.  It started
getting scratchy last night, and this morning
is totally gone.  I can't think of any reason
why it's gone, unless cats get laryngitis?

Otherwise he seems healthy as usual.  Can hot
weather do this to a cat?

Thanks.

mary


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: lelle@wpi.WPI.EDU (Jessica Helene Andersson)
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 16:01:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.213302.6073@cs.tulane.edu> coimay@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu writes:
>
>And from my husband,
>Tyranasaurous Mode: when the kitten gets up on her back paws and plays with
>a toy held in her front paws.  

	A similar name: Grizzlycat or Bearcat, for when the kitten
rears up on its hind legs to look big and scary to the toy mouse it's
about to kill.
From: cldavies@nyx.cs.du.edu (cindy davies)
Subject: Re: Is there a compatable dog breed to get along with cats
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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 04:46:52 GMT

In article <UeZBufi00iUzE1E30U@andrew.cmu.edu> sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu (Susan R. Wagner) writes:
>I are planning on getting a dog when we get a house (not for a few years
>yet). We have a 1 year old neutered, declawed male cat.  Are there
>certain dog breeds to avoid?!  Does anyone have
>recommendations/experiences with breeds that have had little problems? 

Dogs smaller than the cat 8-)

Seriously, we have had cats and dogs together all my life. Right now we have
a 25 pound schnauser, a 50 pound gsd/cocker mix, a 11 pound siamese, and 5
pound grey tiger..  The tiger is the "boss cat"   

The dog book that we have says schnausers are very tolerent of other pets and I
think that must be true. (my mother has a brother to my schnauser.  Smokie 
is bullied unmercifly by his 7 pound poodle housemate.)

The only dogs I really trust around my cats, tho, are dogs who were "raised"
by cats.  We had cats when we got the dogs.  The dogs were both 6-8 weeks 
old when they joined our family.  I trust both of them with the cats, but
I personly do not think I would trust a dog "trained" to accept a cat as 
an adult, if the dog was big enough to harm my cats.

--
Life among academics has taught me that a well-expressed opinion is
usually better than a badly expressed fact, so far as professional
advancement goes.  --Gabaldon, Outlander.
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From: boardman@CS.ColoState.EDU (andrew boardman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: 5 wk olds
Summary: what to do with new kittens?
Date: 22 Aug 92 19:59:28 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

My husband and I recently got two new kittens, apparently around 5-6
weeks old. They had been living outdoors for the past few weeks or
so (I assume from as soon as they could walk) and smell to high heaven.
Is it safe to wash kitties that young? This is my first time and I'm
rather afraid I might break them. :P

	-- skye, holding her nose
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: pauls@tellabs.com (Paul Silver)
Subject: Fugazi vs. Chan
Organization: Tellabs, Inc., Lisle, IL
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:32:39 GMT

I tried posting this yesterday, but it didn't seem to take.  So this is
a re-post.  Apologies to anyone who may have already seen this.

Background:

Fugazi is a 1 3/4 year old spayed black and white female DSH, rather
small.  She's lived with me since she was 9 weeks old.

Chan is a 2 3/4 year old spayed female, part Maine Coon (medium length
hair rather than long), and quite large.  She has lived with us for
the past 7 1/2 weeks.

After the initial few days of stare and hide came a few days of hiss
and run.  Fugazi, of course, was the one doing all the hissing.
After a couple of weeks they finally began to tolerate each other.
Fugazi got jealous once in awhile, when she would catch me petting
Chan.

For the past 4 1/2 weeks or so, the general routine has been peace.
Oh, Fugazi would walk up to Chan and smack her on the head a few times
a day (which would send Chan under a chair), and the cats would chase
each other around the house at night, but it was mostly quiet.

This morning, I was awakened at 4:25 am by two cats running across the
bed and a thunk against one of the bedroom walls.  I immediately
turned on the light an scolded them, thinking their play had just
gotten a little out of hand.  They were on the floor staring at each
other.  I turned off the light and attempted to go back to sleep.

About a minute later, I heard them run out of the bedroom and into
the kitchen, and heard that unmistakable caterwauling of fighting cats.
I got out of bed and chased Chan out of the kitchen, but she kept going
back in (it seems she was the agressor in this fight -- Fugazi was
obviously terrified).  I finally got Chan into the bedroom and closed
the door.  I went across the street to the White Hen and got some
litter, set up another litter box in the bathroom, and put food and
water in there as well.  I then put Chan in there to keep the cats
separated while I am away at work.

I need advice.  Why, after several weeks of peace, did they start
trying to kill each other?  How can I get them to stop it?  What do
I do?  I expected this sort of thing to happen 7 weeks ago, and when
it didn't, I thought things would work out OK.

HELP!

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: anne@cs.UAlberta.CA (Anne J.R. Nield)
Subject: Re: Is there a compatable dog breed to get along with cats
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:35:32 GMT

sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu (Susan R. Wagner) writes:


 Does anyone have
>recommendations/experiences with breeds that have had little problems? 

I really can't generalize from one experience, but we adopted a stray
cocker spaniel (about 2 years old) and shortly after acquired a couple
of stray cats.  They all got along with absolutely no problem -- in
fact the dog and cats did better than the cats did between themselves.
One of them was pregnant when we got her, and when she had the kittens
she beat up on the other cat, but George (the dog) was allowed to
be foster father to the kittens. He played with them all the time.
It was really neat to watch.  Cat # 2 used to come for walks with us
and her favorite game was to sit on the coffee table while George was
sleeping underneath and periodically reach down and swat him.  Then
she'd sit up again real fast -- while George ALSO tried to sit up
and hit his had on the coffee table.  He would look around, decide
he'd been dreaming and go back to sleep.  Sophie would wait a few
more minutes, then "Whack!".  After three or four times George would
give up and move -- but he never figured out what was happening.

Anyway, based on this experience, I would consider getting another
cocker to go with the cats.  George used to chase cats outside IF
they ran; if they didn't he'd just go up and "chat".  But maybe we
were just lucky -- especially since we didn't know the history of
ANY of these critters!!

Anne

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: wm@cs.wm.edu (Weizhen Mao)
Subject: Bringing cats from other country to US
Organization: The College of William and Mary
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:24:51 GMT

I have two cats (Doo-Mee and Baa-Mee) in China,
and my Mom is currently taking care of them. Since
she travels a lot and it is very hard to find cat
lovers to cat-sit, I would like to go back soon to
bring Doo-Mee and Baa-Mee to US. 

Can someone tell me whom I should contact to find
out the US law about bringing pets into the country?
US Custom Service? Or other department? Does anyone
have the similar experience that can share with me?

There is no SPCA in China, and people are too busy
feeding themselve to worry about animals. I am scared
to death to think that my Doo-Mee and Baa-Mee may end 
up to be a dish on those cat eaters' table.

I am desparate for help. Thank you.
 
-- 
Weizhen Mao

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,local.classifieds
From: jpotter@stsci.edu (Jeffrey J. Potter)
Subject: gray and white female needs home
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 08:24:55 GMT


Hello,

    I have a gray and white female cat,  app. 1-2 yrs old, that needs a home.
She is very lovable and easy going.  She is all gray with a white belly and
feet.  She also has a small white spot on her nose that looks like someone 
dabbed there with a paintbrush.  I had rescued this cat from a dog at a 
friends business and she would not go away.  I took her home because the
dog hates cats and would have killed it.  I currently have 2 other cats and
I can not keep this one.  I placed an add in the lost and found section and in
the giveaway section of the local paper but I haven't gotten any calls.

Please help!

-- 
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From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Ghost cat
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:37:43 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre
Originator: netnews@uts.mcc.ac.uk

Got home last night to find Truffle and The Ghost Cat having a stare-out in 
our garden.  This gave me the opportunity to realise that The Ghost Cat is 
not Snoopy from next door but another cat altogether.   Hmmmm.

How many cats in your immediate area? (by immediate, I mean you might 
expect to see them in your garden, or at least your street [and no cheating 
by living in a street 5 miles long]).

Truffle's neighbors include:
Fluffy (who looks quite like Truffle, but slim)
Sam (who we called Big Tom before we found out his name)
Tiger
Snoopy (next door)
Star (next door)
The Ghost Cat
The Vampire Cat
Blackie
Boyfriend
Boyfriend's orange buddy
Another black'n'white
Another tiger-striped
Some others I can't think of offhand

Most of the names are just our own reference codes, all the ones with known 
real names have comments in brackets.  Boyfriend is so called because he got 
closest to Truffle before she was spayed.  



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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: clhoerth@david.wheaton.edu (Cathe L Hoerth)
Subject: The great indoor/outdoor debate
Organization: Wheaton College, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:00:45 GMT

I don't think there's really a hard & fast rule for how long your cat
lives.  I think I agree with the person who said that it depended on the
cat more than the surroundings.  We had a pair of littermate shorthair
alley cats that we got from across the street, and they've been
indoor/outdoor cats all their lives, until Ace died of leukemia last
summer.  He was 13, and our tabby, Sugar, shows no signs of slowing down
at 14.  Granted, our previous cat, an orange-striped Persian, somehow
managed to get himself into the neighbor's engine, which was sad, but he
was happy outside.  Don't flame me please as insensitive, but our cats
have always been allowed to take care of themselves in that respect, and
have done well for themselves.
Meanwhile, the lady down the street had an indoor/outdoor alley cat that
lived to be 20-ish (we don't know exactly, he was a stray when she got
him).
So who knows?  People get hit by cars crossing the street too.

			Cathe
"If cats could talk, they'd say things like "Hey, I don't see the
problem here."
From: Adrienne.Barhydt@p15.f48.n105.z1.therose.pdx.com (Adrienne Barhydt)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: It's Raining Out! (was RE: baths)
Date: 14 Aug 92 07:12:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: therose.713887374.F00006

On Thu, Aug 13 24641-kemmerling (unknown address) wrote the following to All:  

 2>This is a question I  have always wanted to ask.

 2>People keep talking about the pet doors.  If your pet can get in 
 2>and
 2>out, what keeps other various creatures from coming in and out 
 2>as well??


 2>Gayle 'wish I was back in Illinois' Kemmerling
 2>Bellcore
 2>Morristown, N.J.
 2>(201) 829-3950


I got up one morning and went into the kitchen.  I was vaguely aware of some 
reddish things on the floor but really didn't take a close look, just kind on 
wondered why the cats were carrying around the dying blossoms from the 
Christmas cactus (ha).  I got down on the floor in the family room and did my 
exercises.  When i finished I rolled on my side and found myself face to face 
with a big, juicy red earthworm.  I looked around and all the reddish things 
all over the kitchen and family room were earthworms.  

We figured it was Whitebread and sure enough, later in the day we caught him in

the act, our brave little hunter carrying in a new fresh earthworm to play 
with.  After all, we got rid of the ones he captured the night before.  The cat

door is now closed except under exceptional conditions (like extremely cold 
weather).

Adrienne
From: gbrach@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: How long cats live (was Re: Indoor cat wants out)
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:46:07 -0700
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <l8ghh6INNa80@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, aspasia@usability.Eng.Sun.COM (Lisa Louise Davis) writes:
> BTW, there are indoor hazards, too.  I came home from work once to
> discover her "breakaway" collar dangling about two feet from the floor
> from the end of a venetian blind cord.  And she got trapped in a heating
> duct once while a furnace was being repaired--we had to remove the furnace
> again to get her out.
> 
> Lisa Louise

More on indoor hazards:

Pippin is monster-cat now; but when he was a wee nipper, he managed to get
himself into all kinds of deprivation conditions: 

I came home one day and was in my bedroom changing when I heard a mewling sound.
It took me 5 minutes of so to track it down to the head of the bed.  Seems there
was an inch between the wall and the headboard, the latter being level with the
window sill.  I guess Pippin missed the step to the sill and ended up on the
floor between the wall and the bed.  I don't know how long he was down there
but he sure sounded forlorn by the time I rescued him!

One of his other tricks was to run into my closet every time I opened the door.
One day he must have got in with out my noticing (must have been a Monday!). I 
serched the whole house frantically for 1/2 an hour before thinking to check
the closet.  He scooted out...straight to his food dish!

The only time I really 'lost' my older cat (Moustache) was just after I moved 
into my new place.  I had searched everywhere, and was starting to really
*worry* when I happened to casually look up - straight into his eyes - as he
lay on top of my bookshelves!

Its what I really love about the boys - just when I think I've seen everything
they think up something new!

Gabor.

       t     Gabor Brach.	"Like the rat said:  'Keep the cheese,
    gttttt   Victoria, B. C.	 I just want out of the trap'"
gggg b t     (God's waiting			Chief Engineer Geordi LaForge
g  g b t      room)				"Where Silence has Lease"
gggg b  tt
   g bbbb
 ggg b  b	"...with a boulder on my shoulder, feelin kinda older,
 g g b  b        I tripped the merry-go-round..."
 ggg bbbb                                       B. Springsteen
From: john@n7kbt.rain.com (John Opalko)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Date: 20 Aug 92 05:13:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: n7kbt.4066
Distribution: usa
Organization: Two strange people in Forest Grove, OR

In article <HANNAH.92Aug19132640@pomponio.ai.sri.com> hannah@pomponio.ai.sri.com (Marsha Jo Hannah) writes:
>
>As long as we're naming cat behaviors, how about alternate names for
>the insane running around that has been called "the crazies"?

I always called it "the rips."  Sometimes Louie vocalizes while he's tearing
up and down the stairs.  He utters this weird, guttural, growl/yowl.  The first
time my SO heard it, she turned to me and said, "Let's get out of here before
he kills us."  I think she was kidding...

-- 
John Opalko

john@n7kbt.rain.com  -or-  wi.5327@wizvax.methuen.ma.us
From: jlevy@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (janet.s.levy)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: what do you think?
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:57:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Aug4.120417.9581@gvl.unisys.com> ronw@gvlf6-e.gvl.unisys.com (Ron Wagner) writes:
>>sbiles@nmsu.edu (Susannah E Biles) writes:
>>
>> 
>> Okay..second of all:
>> You know that cute little thing that kitty's do with their paws -n-
>> claws when they are content? Well, I was just curoius as to what 
>> everyone else called it. I have refered to it (since a little girl)
>> as "makin' muffin's", and I have heard it called, "kneading bread"
>> and "that-happy-cat-thing". Any others?
>> 
>
>We  use the term "wudgies" although I am not sure of either the spelling
>or derivation.  I also like the term "motoring" for really serious purring.
>
>Ron Wagner
>ronw@gvl.unisys.com
>

My friend calls this "buttering".

Janet Levy
jsl@ihlpm.ATT.COM
From: pdsmith.mitre.org (Pat Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Is there a compatable dog breed to get along with cats
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:22:29 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

In article <BtCB64.4w1@encore.com>, dmillard@encore.com (Debbie Millard) writes:
> 
> In article <UeZBufi00iUzE1E30U@andrew.cmu.edu> sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu (Susan R. Wagner) writes:
> >Hello everyone,  I have been following the thread on introducing dogs
> >and cats.  The story regarding the Husky sure scared me.  
> 
> I don't know of any specific breeds that are better or worse, but
> I wanted to comment here.  I let the original Husky story go by
> because, like people and cats, dogs are individuals, too.  My
> family was big on Huskies when I was growing up.  We had a Malimute,
> my aunt had several Siberians, and my grandmother had both.
> I have pics of our husky happily playing with our various and
> assorted cats that came and went during his ~13 years.  My grandmother
> also had cats and never had problems.
> 
> Just like anything else, there will be exceptions to any 'rule' (hate
> that term here).  Don't discount an entire breed because someone
> somewhere had a bad experience.
> 
> ok, off my soapbox now.
> 
> Debbie
> 
> 
Let me defend my beloved husky.  I wrote that article not to badmouth huskies,
as I think they are the best dog.  I just wanted to be honest about northern
breeds and help insure those cats are safe. It was not a bad experience at all.
Nerve racking at times. but not bad.   My husky does fine with the cat
in fact, the cat chases and plays with him all the time.  She runs up on her
hind legs after him which is quite entertaining.  He allows her in his
food bowl and they often nap together.  He playfully nips at her and if he is
too rough she hisses and swipes at him.  There have been a few incidents
however and I watch them together.  I would never leave them alone in the
house while I went to work but I would never leave the dog alone in the house
by himself as he might tear up the place.  He is an outside dog and really
prefers to be outside.  So huskies can live in harmony with cats but you might
need to train the dog to be gentle particularily if the dog is an adult when
you introduce a cat.  I am not familar with other breeds but huskies are the
best all around dog in my opinion.  My current one is a bit of a challenge
sometimes but if we keep an upper hand, he is fine. What dog allows a cat to 
take his food and play soccer with it and allows the cat to ride him? He really
is a good sport.