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From: steve@zx11.cactus.org (Steve Bade)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Woods, What's up with that ? (was Re: thoughts on GS oil)
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:15:33 GMT
Reply-To: steve@zx11.cactus.org
Distribution: austin
Organization: NOT

orr@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Ken Orr) writes:
]     Damn shame. The closest Kawasaki shop to me (American Kawi) has always
]treated me fairly with prompt courteous service. Warranty work was always a
]rush priority. Hell they even call me Mr. Orr -Oooooooh :-) There are several
					^^^^^^
Now thats a stretch of the truth :-).   Count the days till Splatterfest,
tentativly scheduled for Oct 17, with a few twists to keep it
interesting.

]story is that once you find a good shop stay with em, and back them. Screw the
]rest and tell ALL your friends either way.. If my next bike is a Kawasaki I 
]know exactly where I'll be buying it from.. 
]
That would not happen to be the dealer who is gonna give you a really
deep discount on the bike.  Hope your rear wheel is back together
for the fest,

Steve
From: steve@zx11.cactus.org (Steve Bade)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Woods, What's up with that ? (was thoughts on GS oil)
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:17:32 GMT
Reply-To: steve@zx11.cactus.org
Distribution: austin
Organization: NOT

]
]Now, if you'd gone there to buy a PC 800, you would have gotten some
]respect ;-)
Well if you had any respect for yourself you would not have bought
a PC800.

]
]I bought the PC there and have had most of the problems that have been
]described.  I solved them by walking up to a salesman and asking him
]to help me.  Saves a lot of standing around time.

Again, they probably went into hysterics when you left because
you bought a PC800.  When one is going to spend that kind of money
one tends to want the sales slime to work for the commission.  
Walk into the bmw dealer, and look at a bike and the sales manager
(acutally manager and sales man they are one in the same) will
come and ask if they can help you.  Service with a smile.  If you
say you are just looking then they leave you alone and tell you
where they will be if you have any questions.


Steve
From: steve@zx11.cactus.org (Steve Bade)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: thoughts on GS oil
Date: 7 Sep 92 23:07:53 GMT
Reply-To: steve@zx11.cactus.org
Distribution: austin
Organization: NOT

captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin) writes:
]
]Ok, so everyone hates Woods Fun Center.  Where should I take my Hawk
]to be worked on?  I'm long overdue for a 16k mile service (carb sync,
]valve adjust are the main things I think).  I like S. Austin Sport
]Cycles, but Bill & James are booked for weeks!  I've heard bad things
]about the place just up the road from Woods too.  So WHERE???
]
I'll second Joe's recomendation of TJ's.  I good friend of mine
works there as a mechanic and he speaks highly of the work
of all the other people.   On the other hand, your hawk did not
sound like the valves were out of adjustment or the carbs
were out of sync today.  You should learn to do those operations
your self, it will save you a bundle in the long run.  The 16K probably
is a check and adjust if necessary the valve clearances.   

Take it to TJ's..... and stay as far away from Woods as possible.

Steve
From: joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Splatterfest Advice
Date: 16 Sep 92 00:45:06 GMT
Reply-To: joe@zx11.cactus.org
Distribution: tx
Organization: NOT

kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes:
]In article <2435@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> joe@mpd.tandem.com writes:
]>you'll have to pass some '62 fairlane doing 23mph with 4 bails of hay cramed
]>in the back seat.
]                                                          ^^^^^
]You mean it's gonna rain during Splatterfest or is this some newfangled
]activity you city folk do with hay? Thought you could only bail water. :^)
]Kent (DoF #)

thanks for setting me straight Kent. not being a Decrepit old Farmer (tm)
I had no idea what the correct word was so I took a guess :)

-- 
Joe Senner                                                 joe@zx11.Cactus.Org
Austin, TX                                                       92 BMW K100RS
From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Houston HOV Lanes are open to motorcycles (well, maybe)!!!!!
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:59:05 GMT
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Originator: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <jcn.716066316@helix>, jcn@rice.edu (Jeff C. Nichols) writes:
|> >So hot damn!!! I guess I need a reason to live outside the loop
|> >now . .so I can use the HOV!!!!
|> 
|> Plus, that will increase the number of Denny's and/or Burger King's 
|> you pass along the way ;-)
|> 

Now you're talking!!!! Yeeeeeeeee-haaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

|> >p.s. -- so where are these enforcement areas??  When do I need
|> >	to decellerate down past the DoD minimal speed?? ;-)
|> 
|> You know Mark, your fixation with speed is beginning to indicate a    
|> larger problem (or should I say, smaller problem ;-)  I may own what 
|> you so fondly call a sewing machine, but I don't need the extra speed 
|> to make up for something that is obviously lacking ;-)
|> 

Huh? What?? Duhhhhhhhhhhhh, did I say I speed . . I only do 35 . . 
in the leftmost lane . . .just like all Houstonites!!!! ;-)

|> So how about a ride up to TWS in October for the races?  I'm not sure 
|> of the dates, but I can find out.
|> 

Dates are 9-11(12?) Oct . . . I'll go if my plans for that weekend
in Dallas fall through!!

Mark
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Kent's new club?
Keywords: MSF
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:36:56 GMT
Reply-To: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Distribution: na
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <14814@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
>In article <13927@swrinde.nde.swri.edu>, kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes:
>|> Kent (DoF #)
>
>OK, I'll ask . . what does the DoF stand for??


Would that be the legendary Denizens of Food, whose motto is "Live
to Ride, Ride to Eat"?



-- 
Ray Shea			"Them New Agers will buy anything if
UniSQL, Inc.			 you tell 'em it's from Bali."
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu		-- Eric the Bondo Fish Man
DoD #0372, '88 Hawk NT650, '74 Hubsh Loadstar
From: joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: warranty coverage (was Re: Woods, What's up with that ?)
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:36:42 GMT
Reply-To: joe@mpd.tandem.com
Distribution: austin
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Austin, TX.

]One does not need to have the bike maintained by a dealer to 
]keep it under waranty.

you're spoiled by the BMW warranty steve. I don't know of any other
vendor that will let YOU do ANYTHING to the bike and still honor
the full factory warranty. I just don't believe that kawasaki would
honor it if you rebuilt your engine and it siezed a month later.

I don't remember exactly what was said at the time, but the woods sales
sluts had me sign a paper that said the warranty was null and void if
I didn't have the 600 mile service done, and may have said it had to be
done by them. I'll look and see if I still have the paper. if that's 
illegal, then woods doesn't care that it's illegal.

]You should keep reciepts for the oil
]filter's etc that you buy, and keep your own service records
]of what you did when.  There is not a single vehicle waranty 
]that stipulates dealer maintenance as being mandatory.  

perhaps not in technical terms, but in reality if a vendor doesn't
want to cover something it'll take an act of god to force them to.
in the long run it'll be cheaper to just pay for it yourself.

]most waranty work on a Goof2 probably
]wouldn't qualify since all the dealer has to do is say it was
]abused and they are off the hook.

exactly.

]Since the tendency is for
]squids (not that you are one Brad) to trash sport bikes  they
]have it pretty easy.

exactly.

-- 
Joe Senner                                          joe@zx11.cactus.org
Tandem Computers Inc.                               joe@mpd.tandem.com
From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Hills, schmills . .. .
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:37:51 GMT
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center

In article <14689@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
>
>In article <1992Sep9.223939.23752@news.eng.convex.com>, caban@convex.com (Jane Caban) writes:
>|> 
>|> yes, but not much fun in a snowstorm! I'll never move back to Massachusetts
>|> (or anywhere north of here for that matter) because I want to ride 12
>|> months a year.
>
>This is true . . . . and I like being able to ride 12 months out of
>the year . . but I *like* the snow and cold . . and the different
>seasons . . . . I wouldn't mind giving up riding for a couple months
>just so I could have the four seasons . . . there *are* other fun
>things to do when it snows!! ;-)
>

So who says you have to give up riding when it gets cold? Granted, it's not a
smart thing to do when there's snow on the road, but where I grew up
(Pennsylvania) the roads mostly stayed clear. 

Jeff Achenbach
achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com
From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Question! Dual-compound tires
Keywords: pinhead Senner squid
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:28:04 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center

In article <1992Sep15.052736.16240@wixer.cactus.org> lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle J. Mackey) writes:
>Ok, here's the scoop:  I've got Dunlop 591's on the EX right now, and I like
>'em just fine and everything, but the mileage on 'em is a bit limited.  My
>back tire is pretty much smooth along the center, but has plenty of tread out
>to the edges, due to the amount of highway riding I do compared to full-lean
>riding.
>
>Problem is, I do just enough enthusiastic riding that I'm not willing to go
>with a rock-hard high mileage tire, but I can't afford to keep putting sporty
>chewing gum tires at the rate I'm wearing out that rear center stripe.  Anyone
>out there have any experience with dual-compound tires, such as the Bridgestone
>SE11's?
>
>Hopefully something BESIDES the SE11's, cause this Chaparral catalog says they
>don't even MAKE the SE11 in the stock sizes for my bike.
>

I've got Bridgestones on two bikes, my Bonneville and the SR500. The ones on
the Bonnie were called Spitfires and SE11 sounds right. Didn't know they were 
dual compound, though. The previous owner of the SR put the tires on it and 
said they were dual compound. Anyway, I've done a limited amount of riding in 
the rain and been pretty well satisfied with them. On a dry road, they're also
ok. Overall, not as good as Metzelers, but good tires for the price.

Jeff Achenbach
achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com
From: caban@convex.com (Jane Caban)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Hills, schmills . .. .
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:39:39 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <14678@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
>
>In article <BuBKDs.LnB@cmptrc.lonestar.org>, neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) writes:
>|> 
>|> There are plenty of hills, trees, and winding roads around Austin. Go west from Austin to Enchanted Rock (North of Fredricksburg), take the farm roads, not
>|> highway 290, and you'll be surprised.
>
>I've ridden around up in that area some . . and it doesn't come
>close to the Appalachians . . the Smokey Mountains . . the Blueridge
>Parkway . . . riding up I-79 in the fall and looking out for 20 miles
>in all directions and seeing nothing but hill after rolling hill
>covered in trees . . . reds, oranges, yellows, browns, and greens
>. . . what a view!!

yes, but not much fun in a snowstorm! I'll never move back to Massachusetts
(or anywhere north of here for that matter) because I want to ride 12
months a year.
-- 
*******************************************************************************
Jane Caban       | DoD #0508
caban@convex.com | Honda VT600C Shadow VLX
*******************************************************************************
From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Kent's new club?
Keywords: MSF
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:54:48 GMT
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Distribution: na
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Originator: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <13927@swrinde.nde.swri.edu>, kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes:
|> 
|> Kent (DoF #)
         ^^^

OK, I'll ask . . what does the DoF stand for??

Mark
From: kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Kent's new club?
Keywords: MSF
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:48:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas

In article <14814@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
>
>In article <13927@swrinde.nde.swri.edu>, kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes:
>|> 
>|> Kent (DoF #)
>         ^^^
>
>OK, I'll ask . . what does the DoF stand for??
>
>Mark

What'cha think Jerry, should we let them in on it?

Kent (DoF #)
From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: sidehack wanted
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:41:23 GMT
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center


   Due to my employer having rules against bringing weapons into work, I find
I constantly have to chose between riding and archery practice (the range is
right next door). A sidecar would solve the problem nicely. Besides, they're 
fun to drive. Anybody know of a reasonably priced (<$700) sidehack?

Jeff Achenbach
achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Hills, schmills . .. .
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:36:38 GMT
Reply-To: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <14689@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
>...
>p.s. -- Ummmmmm, so Jane . . . what is convex?  Where is convex?
>	I haven't seen you post around here before?!  

"Hey, babe, post here often?"

Geez, Mark, you didn't get all interested in UniSQL when I first
started posting here.  Why would that be?



-- 
Ray Shea			"Them New Agers will buy anything if
UniSQL, Inc.			 you tell 'em it's from Bali."
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu		-- Eric the Bondo Fish Man
DoD #0372, '88 Hawk NT650
From: kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Kent's new club?
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:53:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas

In article <828@zx11.UUCP> joe@zx11.cactus.org writes:
>kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes:
>]What'cha think Jerry, should we let them in on it?
>
>Durned Old Fart ?

Durned close. :^)

Kent (DoF #)
From: joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: thoughts on GS oil
Date: 9 Sep 92 03:33:44 GMT
Reply-To: joe@zx11.cactus.org
Distribution: austin
Organization: NOT

dunham_jerry@tandem.com (Jerry Dunham) writes:
]I've had all my work done at D&L since moving back to Austin 5 years ago.
]The only time I had any question about the work was when I forgot to make
]sure that Anthony was the only one to work on my bike.  This week Anthony
]is in Wyoming, or some other such godforsaken place, so I guarantee nothing.

I tend to believe that a dealer that will let you watch and assist with
your 600 mile service is probably doing it right. I guess a thumbs up to
D&L is in order unless someone has some other thoughts...

]So THAT's why you missed lunch.  Now you're not properly ARMED!

actually I was at the doctors office having my back pain diagnosed as a 
fractured 4th thoracic vertebrae so the next time someone claims to be a
Real Biker (tm) they'll have to live up to riding with a broken back!

-- 
Joe Senner                                                 joe@zx11.Cactus.Org
Austin, TX                                                       92 BMW K100RS
From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What to do in Dallas?
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:20:07 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <14521@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
>Mark "I want to move back east!!!" Parsons
 

 Well mark, then get on that bad motor scooter and ride on outta here!



 ===================TEXAS, Love it or Leave it ========================
 Neal Howard                      | '91 XLH-1200
 neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org         | DoD #686
 ======================================================================
From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Hills, schmills . .. .
Date: 10 Sep 1992 13:55:44 GMT
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Originator: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <1992Sep9.223939.23752@news.eng.convex.com>, caban@convex.com (Jane Caban) writes:
|> 
|> yes, but not much fun in a snowstorm! I'll never move back to Massachusetts
|> (or anywhere north of here for that matter) because I want to ride 12
|> months a year.

This is true . . . . and I like being able to ride 12 months out of
the year . . but I *like* the snow and cold . . and the different
seasons . . . . I wouldn't mind giving up riding for a couple months
just so I could have the four seasons . . . there *are* other fun
things to do when it snows!! ;-)

Mark

p.s. -- Ummmmmm, so Jane . . . what is convex?  Where is convex?
	I haven't seen you post around here before?!  Or do I 
	just have a lousy newsfeed? ;-)
From: gad@pencom.com (George Durden)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: thoughts on GS oil
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:35:05 GMT
Reply-To: gad@pencom.com
Organization: Pencom Software

Joe Senner writes
> captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin) writes:
> ]But, Joe, Mobil 1 oil is fine in your beemer, but in the ZX-11, and 
> ]all these other bikes which share the same engine/clutch/transmission
> ]oil, won't it break down & screw things up after a while?  I've been
> 
> you'll notice I said it worked fine in my ZX-11. I used it for well
> over 8000 miles of lots of full throttle bursts, high RPM running, etc.

I'll second Joe here. I've used Mobile 1 in my EX for 12K street miles
and 1 season of CMRA road racing. Absolutely no problems. I'm still
using the original clutch and it hooks up just fine. I change the oil
every 3000 street miles or every other race weekend.

> ]told by several people that motorcycles need specially formulated oil
> ]to withstand the shearing forces & clutch pad particles, etc. that 
> ]aren't present in beemers & cages.  What's the scoop?
> 
> you've been listening to the idiots at woods honda again (or those that were
> stupid enough to believe them), they want you to buy their expensive oil. 

Oh Yeah, Woods... take a stroll around back and take a gander at the 
mechanics putting Castrol GTX into the bikes while the saleslime are
singing the "special oil required" song...

George
--
		      George A. Durden			
		  	.5K EX Pilot
		       Unix Mercenary
DoD #0039	     "No Risk, No Rush"		CMRA #106
From: joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: thoughts on GS oil
Date: 6 Sep 92 23:14:42 GMT
Reply-To: joe@zx11.cactus.org
Organization: NOT

captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin) writes:
]8000 miles?  And then you sold it, so how will we ever know whether
]or not the insides of that zx11 will still be running in 10 years?

we'll never know since we have no idea how the new owner will treat it.
how will we know it won't? if it's miles you want, simply post to rec.moto
asking for mileage figures on synthetic. I'm sure you'll come up with more
than enough to satisfy you.

]I'd like to see more data (motorcycle specific - the oil info you
]mailed me was interesting, and informative, but failed to discuss
]the special needs of motorcycle oil over that of engine oil.

]I thought the W meant "Weight" of the base oil.  Therefore, 10W40 oil
]would be a 10 weight oil that had been modified to act like a 40 weight
]oil at high temperatures.  Is this not right?

I'm not the oil expert, only oil educated. you should ask Ed Hackett, the
original author of the article, and published chemist. his addr should be
at the end of the article. after all, who are you more likely to believe?

get the issues of MC, CW, RR, etc, etc that had writeups on oils, read
them, and email ed with questions.

-- 
Joe Senner                                                 joe@zx11.Cactus.Org
Austin, TX                                                       92 BMW K100RS
From: jcn@rice.edu (Jeff C. Nichols)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Houston HOV Lanes are open to motorcycles (well, maybe)!!!!!
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:22:17 GMT
Organization: Rice University

moore@uhibpd.phys.uh.edu (Lorra L. Moore) writes:

>don't do anything squidly.  There are designated road captains.  And
>they carry on the lead bike all the health and insurance information on
>each of the riders.  This is always good for a nice false sense of
>security. :)

Very important for those low speed parking lot moves ;-)

In keeping with the originally thread (HOV lanes) I heard on the radio 
that they are now open to motorcycles, so it sounds like it's for sure!


--
*  Jeff Nichols                 |   I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay. * 
*  DoD#0402         AMA#?!@#*%  |   Ride:  GS500E    		   *
*  It's a dog-eat-dog world out there, and I'm wearing milkbone    *
*  underwear--  Norm Peterson					   *