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From: drake@Autodesk.COM (Dan Drake)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: ADS query: automatic manipulation of drawing
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:26:50 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA

cnbv01@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
> ... I would ... like the drawing to be manipulated and updated
> in the background and yet allow the user to zoom in on certain parts of the
> drawing.
> 
> Don't tell me... I know that the ADS manual says quote:
> 
> "...while an ADS application is responding to an AutoLISP request, both AutoCAD
> and AutoLISP are themselves inactive..."
> 
> ...but I was wondering if anyone had found a way round this.  ...

Sorry, but the manual is telling the truth.  The function you want is
very desirable, and it will be implemented some day, but it didn't make
the cut in R12 planning.  

I'd give long odds against anybody's coming up with a decent solution or
workaround on DOS or other feeble imitation of an operating system.  In
Unix, of course, you should be able to spawn an independent process to
do the background work, dividing the processor time with AutoCAD (+ the
ADS program).  How you synchronize these processes is up to you; it
would be interesting to see if anyone has worked out nice methods for
doing this.

--
Dan Drake                 In software, the *complete* design *is* the software!
drake@Autodesk.com        --Hugh Lamaster
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From: dan@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Danilo Silva)
Subject: Hardware comparison
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:23:48 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523
Keywords: Hardware

Hello everyone,

Does anybody have a benchmark test results of machines running AutoCad.
I would be more interested to see how 386's, 486's (top of the line) and
workstations (Top of the line too - like HP 700 series) compare.
I don't know if 486's need to be divided in ISA and EISA categories?
And what about the Macintosh Quadra, how do they compare to the previous
three?

I'll post a summary of answers. Now, I need your input.

Thanks all,

Dan Silva
dan@lamar.colostate.edu


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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 09:24:14 +0100
From:         Frans.Rip@CGI.RPV.WAU.NL
Subject:      re: Autodesk 3D Studio

3D-Studio:
there was an article by T.Forcade in the july '92 issue of CADENCE, p.48-52.

F.Rip, Wageningen Agricultural University, the Netherlands
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: will@netcom.com (Will Clark)
Subject: M1 tank .DWG or .DXF file wanted
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:19:41 GMT



A friend of mine without net access needs a drawing of an M1 tank
(preferably with two views) and asked me to post a request.

Any information is welcome.

Please reply by email, since I don't ordinarily read this group.

Thanks.

Will Clark
will@netcom.com
will.an@site007.saic.com
--> My opinions do not represent those of SAIC.
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: clark%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Charles Clark)
Subject: Autodesk 3D Studio
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:49:49 MST
Followup-To: alt.cad.autocad 
Summary: Reviews of 3D Studio?  
Keywords: Autodesk CAD 3D Studio
Organization: University of Utah, Department of Computer Science
Distribution: usa

In article   writes:
>
>     I am looking for some third party literature about 3D-Studio...Do
>you have any ideas where I might look...?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Bob

I have been looking for a review of 3D Studio.  I have found brief reviews
of AutoCAD r12 in PC Week and InfoWorld, and have seen advertisments for 
3D Studio in architecture related magazines, but have not seen any reviews.  

Any pointers?  Also, any 3D Studio users willing to describe the high- and low-
lights of this product?

	--Charles
From: stlawrence.general@canrem.com (stlawrence general)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: request: release 12 promo
Date: 8 Nov 92 16:03:19 GMT
Reply-To: "stlawrence general" <stlawrence.general@canrem.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

TO: morgan@arc.ab.ca

Sean Morgan, in a message to All, in (3988) U-ALTCADAU
dated 11-08-1992, about: "REQUEST: RELEASE 12 PROMO", said :

SM>Apparently this release has the Enterprise from Star Trek included as a sampl
SM>file.  I assume that this is public domain like the famous shuttle cut-away,
SM>and that AutoDesk doesn't restrict its circulation.  If so, would some kind
SM>soul please post (or e-mail to me) a DXF version of it (for those of us with
SM>older versions)?  I guarantee the eternal gratitude of many Star Trek fans.

   I don't have the file, still running V11, but if you do get a
   copy of the Enterprise file, can you let me know?  huh?  huh?
   please?  <g>

Regards - Robert Heath
stlwarence.general@canrem.com

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From: orion@phobos.unm.edu (Tim Guerrette)
Subject: AutoCAD Books/Educational Information
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 03:30:04 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

I have seen a bunch of people asking about AutoCAD book or technical information/teaching tools. If anyone is interested I know a great place to get plenty of AutoCAD stuff. Just let me know and I'll give you the rest of the information.

Thanks,

-- Tim

 

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 09:55:48 UTC+1000
From:         Peter Clark <Clark@RMIT.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: Maximum block size?

>So here's my question:  is there a maximum size for an externally
>referenced block?

...no technical limits that I know of, there may be typical
operational limits eg regen times in r11, constancy of
layer naming and setting conventions between dwg files etc...

>Each section/block will need to be perhaps 2-3 meg in size.  Can
>a block be made this big?  I'd heard once that 40-50K was the limit.  I am
>using R12 for DOS Extender.

...yes, we import dwgs of this size into one dwg...truckloads of ram
and a 486 will help of course, but without them, just make sure you
have plenty of disk headroom for paging and you should have little
difficulty...regen times with r12 are significantly shorter as you
will know...

Cheers,
Peter

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From: shiv@mecad.uta.edu (Shivakumar Sundaram)
Subject: ADS Query !!
Keywords: ads_buildlist, ads_entmake for INSERTS
Reply-To: utacfd.uta.edu
Organization: University of Texas at Arlington
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:30:53 GMT

I would appreciate it if someone could enlighten me on how
"ads_buildlist" and "ads_entmake" works for BLOCKS (INSERTS). My program
inserts a block but is unable to create ANY ATTRIBUTES and therefore
crashes on me giving an error.

My program goes as :

int plevel()
{
	
	int status;
	struct resbuf *plev;
	ads_name ent;
	ads_point pt;

	pt[X] = 5.0;
	pt[Y] = 5.0;
	pt[Z] = 0.0;

	 plev = ads_buildlist(RTDXF0, "INSERT", 66, 1, 2, "PLEVEL", 10, pt, 0);
	if(plev == NULL)
	{
		ads_fail("List creation error 1");
		return BAD;
	}

	status = ads_entmake(plev);
	ads_relrb(plev);	

	if(status != RTNORM)
	{
		ads_fail("Unable to create PLEVEL insert\n");
		return BAD;
	}

	plev = ads_buildlist(RTDXF0, "ATTRIB", 1,  "2", 2,  "PLEVEL", 0);
	if(plev == NULL)
	{
		ads_fail("List creation error 2");
		return BAD;
	}

	status = ads_entmake(plev);
	ads_relrb(plev);	

	if(status != RTNORM)
	{
		ads_fail("Unable to create PLEVEL Attribute \n");
		return BAD; 
	}


	plev = ads_buildlist(RTDXF0, "SEQEND", 0);
	if(plev == NULL)
	{
		ads_fail("Unable to create PLEVEL SEQEND\n");
		return BAD;
	}

	status = ads_entmake(plev);
	ads_relrb(plev);

	if(status != RTNORM)
	{
		ads_fail("Unable to create PLEVEL Seqend\n");
		return BAD;
	}
	
	ads_redraw(NULL, 0);
	return RSRSLT; 
}

It is a simple program of inserting  a block and creating its attributes
I know there is a bug in the ATTRIB buildlist but am unable to find it.
Any kind of help is welcome.

Please e-mail to 

	shiv@mecad.uta.edu
	
Thanx

-shiv

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University of Texas at Arlington
Arlington, Texas - 76019
(817) 273 2016
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:15:15 CST
From:         Rochelle Flowers <UL52610@UKANVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Autocad Questions

I want to purchase a computer for my Autocad program and also add some other
software, for example: Wordperfect, DBase 4, Lotus 1-2-3. Please let me know
how much megabyte and ram I would need?

I am just starting out in an Autocad class. I haven't decided yet which field
I will go into. Auto side or the Architecture side. Please give me an idea of
the job market under these two fields?

Thank you!
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: schultz@ai.mew.mei.co.jp (Bob Schultz)
Subject: Space Shuttle DXF file wanted
Organization: Matsushita Electric Works, Ltd., Osaka, Japan
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 09:14:39 GMT

Hello,

I'm looking for a dxf file of the Space Shuttle.  If anyone has one
or knows where I could get one, please contact me at schultz@mew.mei.co.jp.

Thanks!

-bob

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From: gillett@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Walter E. Gillett)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Need to translate from RGB to AutoCAD's Color Wheel and back.
Date: 13 Nov 1992 19:12:08 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: rice-chex.ai.mit.edu

Hi, Folks
    Does anyone know of any functions or equations that'll convert between
RGB (and/or HSV) and AutoCAD's Color Wheel?
				    Thanks in advance
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Please send replies to:                        joe@ConSolve.com
From: S1ANDRE@IMERJ.BITNET (Andre Gustavo de C. Albuquerque)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Convex Hulls in Autolisp
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:49:01 GMT
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      I need a routine in AutoLISP that gets the convex hull of a set of
points and transform it into a polyline. Any help would be very apreciated.

      Thanks in advance.


       Andre Gustavo
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: orion@draco.unm.edu (Tim Guerrette)
Subject: ADS Book??
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 19:33:10 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Keywords: ADS

Does anyone know if there is a book on the market for ADS? I really need to find one in the next few months.

Thanks,

-- Tim
From: freu9035@elan.glassboro.edu (BRIAN FREUDENBERGER)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: making site plans
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:25:42 GMT
Organization: Rowan College of New Jersey

Hello,

	I was asked by a relative to find information about doing site plans 
for a company on some sort of CAD system.  I was wondering if anyone had any 
suggestions as to what software package might be more adequate to use for 
this type of project?  The site plans are basic layouts of pipe lines, gas 
lines, etc for business properties or home office buildings.  
	What would be the most appropriate software package - autocad or 
something less complicated?  Like what?  How much do you think it would cost 
to have an outside source provide these plans instead of spending the time 
to train someone inside the office?  (just looking for general information 
or personal opinions) 


please send private e-mail responses:

 
			Thanks,
			   B. Freud
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: "Dan Thompson" <p00166@psilink.com>
Subject: Maximum block size?
Organization: Vibrant Graphics
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:37:42 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.3)

I am beginning a very large mapping project.  The total .dwg size will be
somewhere in the 10 to 20 megabyte range.  From my last project, I know 
that I'm going to run into a heavy swapping problem since I have only
16 megabytes in my machine.  

Since the project is easily divisible into sections (I'm mapping an island
chain), the logical solution is to map the project in separate files, one
per section.  However, since I will need to be able to plot various
sections together, I need a way of pulling them all up in a single drawing
from time to time.  I believe that this is one of the uses of blocks.

So here's my question:  is there a maximum size for an externally referenced
block?  Each section/block will need to be perhaps 2-3 meg in size.  Can 
a block be made this big?  I'd heard once that 40-50K was the limit.  I am
using R12 for DOS Extender.

Thank you.

Dan Thompson, Vibrant Graphics
p00166@psilink.com
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From: gadenz@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Alexander Gadenz)
Subject: isometric view from a 3D-drawing
Originator: gadenz@hphalle1j.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 12:08:59 GMT



My problem :

I have a 3D-drawing and i have to plot it in ISOMETRY.
So i need a function (LISP) or program to convert 3D to a 2D-drawing in isometry.
ACAD R11!!

If anyone could help me, please mail!

Thanks.


Alexander Gadenz      email: gadenz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de
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From: umpankr3@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Pankratz)
Subject: Help needed: Kurta IS ONE tablet and Windows 3.0
Keywords: Autocad windows
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 04:32:41 GMT

I have a strange problem which I can't seem to correct, but first let me
explain what I am trying to do. I am currently using AutoCAD release 11
under DOS 5. Also I am using Windows 3.0 for MathCAD and file management.
Right now, to get Autocad to work properly, I have to leave HIMEM.SYS out
of CONFIG.SYS, so I use two configs and autoexec's and have to reboot
every time I want switch from one to the other. Is there a better way to
do this - before getting R12  :)  or am I doing something wrong?
Also, If I use the windows driver for the IS\ONE in the windows setup,
Windows dies before getting to the program manager window and kicks me
back into DOS. I know the driver works and that it is for 3.0. Also, I can use
the tablet as my digitizer in DOS's edit window etc.. 
Any suggestions would be appreciated. I'm getting tangled up in mouse and
tablet cords and would like to get rid of the mouse.

Thanks in advance.   (If possible, Email is preffered)

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From: bobs@Think.COM ( Robert Schwartz)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: Maximum block size?
Date: 11 Nov 1992 17:10:06 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: world
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In article <2930524069.0.p00166@psilink.com>, "Dan Thompson" <p00166@psilink.com> writes:
|> I am beginning a very large mapping project.  The total .dwg size will be
|> somewhere in the 10 to 20 megabyte range.  From my last project, I know 
|> that I'm going to run into a heavy swapping problem since I have only
|> 16 megabytes in my machine.  
|> 
|> Since the project is easily divisible into sections (I'm mapping an island
|> chain), the logical solution is to map the project in separate files, one
|> per section.  However, since I will need to be able to plot various
|> sections together, I need a way of pulling them all up in a single drawing
|> from time to time.  I believe that this is one of the uses of blocks.
|> 
|> So here's my question:  is there a maximum size for an externally referenced
|> block?  Each section/block will need to be perhaps 2-3 meg in size.  Can 
|> a block be made this big?  I'd heard once that 40-50K was the limit.  I am
|> using R12 for DOS Extender.
|> 
|> Thank you.
|> 
|> Dan Thompson, Vibrant Graphics
|> p00166@psilink.com

This sounds like a perfect application for using xref's.  Xref's are
externally referenced files that can be edited individually but viewed 
and plotted together (among other things).  Read up on it in your manual,
I think this will solve your problem.

Bob Schwartz
Thinking Machines Corp.
Cambridge MA
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From:         "(Robert Stalder)" <rxs14@PO.CWRU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Calcomp 5723 Plotter Drivers Needed

Your best bet is to probably call CalComp, who will, in all likelihood,
provide you with the driver you need.

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From: roman.yarish@rose.com (roman yarish)
Subject: CADD Video Card
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:00:35 GMT
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Date Entered: 11-12-92 16:56

For sale or trade:

Matrox Series I video card (hi-end) 

ISA card (pc 16 bit)
Features as outlined in manual
-up to 1280 x 1024 resolution
-60 hz non-interlaced
-16.7 million color lookup table
-TI 34010 processor
-100,000 vectors/sec.
-100,000,000 bits/sec.
-Compatible with major CAD packages
-Windows,Autocad etc. drivers

$300 or b/o 

For possible trade these are some items I'm looking for
-SCSI hd
-Multi-sync type color monitor
-Simm ram
-cd-rom software
-486dx33 Intel cpu only

Reply here or
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 10:11:47 UTC+1000
From:         Peter Clark <Clark@RMIT.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re:dealer's and drivers...

>In article <1d8osiINN3i7@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ah395@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
>(Jeffrey T. Hansen) writes:
>
>>Of course, this assumes that one has a knowledgeable dealer,
>>and a cooperative hardware manufacturer that issues driver
>>updates on a timely basis.  Excuse me, that's a rather large
>>assumption for most of the united states.
>
>AutoDesk does not grant dealerships unless a certain level of
>competence has been demonstrated, which permits them to have a policy
>of dealer support.  It seems perfectly reasonable to me.

>Ben Olasov

...excuse me for butting in on this...the Adesk commitment to
monitoring competencies of dealerships is respected by most users
here, however the economic practicalities of implementing policy like
this means that it is reactive...unfortunately, only after a debacle,
when the damage to PR has been done, can a producer act on a poor
performing dealer...hardware manufacturers who are tardy with driver
updates are a different and more difficult group to direct, it
seems...

...does Adesk offer some incentive other than market share to these
essential collaborators..?..yep, you guessed it !...we're
commissioning r12 at the moment and are having lots of fun trying to
get updated drivers for existing cards to support the gui and
scanline features, as well as other device drivers...it's like
pulling teeth with some suppliers...

...our adi v4.0 drivers for STB Powergraph cards with  r12 do strange
things to some GUI text and buttons, dd's don't stay where you put
them, leave droppings behind when they're closed and exhibit other
unendearing glitches....to the best of our dealer's knowledge, 4.1
drivers have never been produced for this card and 4.2 drivers are
therefore still further off...without further incentives, it seems
that device manufacturers may be forced to charge consumers for
driver updates...(our dealers don't, yet...)...all of this
must add to the cost of upgrades for large user sites...comments..?

Cheers,
Peter

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From: ben@auspex.com (Ben PeBenito)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Help on autocad drivers
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:48:06 GMT
Reply-To: ben@auspex.com
Organization: Auspex Systems Inc.

I have been using autocad version 11 for about 1 year and never had any problem 
on it until we change to ver.12.

Problem:
AutoCad will run for about 15 minutes perfectly until i use ddedit to many times
then the whole autocad will disapear. Then when I check on the console the error
I get is this "Display Driver Error: Can't find driver: rcacaddx"

Workstation set-up:
License: 4  seats network license
System using is SPARCstation IPC
AutoCad resides in the server

Old set-up:
same as above except AutoCad use to reside in one of the SPARCstation IPX.

Any help or suggestion is appreciated:
Ben PeBenito
email :  ben@auspex.com
voice : 408-492-0900 x329
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From: jshea@eng.clemson.edu (john mark shea)
Subject: Problems w/ Unix AutoLISP loading subroutines
Keywords: LISP, AutoLISP, programming
Reply-To: jshea@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:25:26 GMT

I am having many problems with AutoCAD on a SUN system. It sometimes will load my
subroutines (in AutoLISP) and sometimes will not and say it failed.  Why is this?
Is it timing out because of the network accesses involved?  Can I set some 
environmental variable or something to fix this?

Any ideas would be GREATLY appreciated...

						John
From: v087mxgb@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Shawn E Thompson)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: is there a printer driver for the Canon BJ10e bubblejet ??
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:15:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


well the subject line says it all....


thanks


                             Shawn E. Thompson           
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