From: jeb3@meaddata.com (Jennifer Bing)
Subject: Re: Homosexuality & the Bible
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:00:15 GMT
Distribution: talk.religion.misc

In article <1992Apr1.180255.28823@apollo.hp.com>, smith_w@apollo.hp.com (Walter Smith) writes:
|> In article <1992Mar31.175928.11857@meaddata.com> jeb3@meaddata.com (Jennifer Bing) writes:
|> >If Charlie won't be direct, I will. Jesus said if you love me you'll keep my 
|> >commandments. I equate serve with worship, and God said those who worship me 
|> >must worship me in spirit and in truth.
|> 
|> And what does that mean to you?  (in detail)

To worship with the leading of the Holy Ghost and Christ in you. To get a 
clearer understanding read John 14:17-24. You will not have either (Christ
or Holy Ghost) in you if you don't keep his commandments. "Jesus answered
and said unto him,, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my father
will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him." John
14:23.

|> 
|> >You can't serve God the way you want to and be in any condition 
|> >(sin) and expect him to accept your worship or service. 
|> >God sets the terms in which he will relate with you and I. 
|> >God has no fellowship with sin period. Whether it be homosex-uality, 
|> >lying, self righteousness, etc. God doesn't accept any of us as we are.
|> 
|> What does self-righteous mean to you?

Having your own righteousness, not according to God's definition. Faith is
counted for righteousness. Portion of Romans 4:5 God imputeth righteousness
without works. portion of Romans4:6.

|> 
|> >Repent from your sins and believe on the name of Jesus and he shall 
|> >set you free from the bondage of sin. We all had to admit  we were 
|> >sinners. All unrighteous-ness is sin. There are no degrees of sin. 
|> >I had to admit I was a liar, etc. etc.etc. and now I have been 
|> >forgiven and I AM FREE! Admit that homosexuality is a 
|> >sin and be forgiven.
|> 
|> The question is, do you ever sin anymore?  I've accepted Jesus, but
|> I still sin; now, I believe they are forgiven.  Are you saying that
|> if you accept Jesus, you will no longer sin?

No, I'm not saying we will not ever sin again. We have an advocate with the
father, Christ Jesus, the righteous. (paraphrase I JOhn 2:1) However,
Hebrews 10:26-27 says, "For if we sin willfully after that we have received
the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but
a certain fearful looking for of judgement and fiery indignation, which
shall devour the adversaries".

|> 
|> I've heard the sort of reasoning before that homosexuality is
|> different, but I've yet to hear a good explaination as to why.
|> We all sin (as far as I know...), none of us are perfect; of else
|> we wouldn't need Christ in the first place.
|>

I don't know what you mean by different. Please explain.

Homosexuality can be forgiven. It's when we willfully sin that we are in
danger. We grow in grace. We don't become perfect over night, but we must
strive to be. We should avoid the very appearance of evil. When you know you
have a certain weakness for a particular sin, then you pray earnestly for
strength to overcome. I declare God will give you strength. Ask and you
shall receive. Seek him dilgently.

|> Walter
|> smith_w@apollo.hp.com

In Christ, with Love Peace and Joy

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