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From: Bathsheba.Grossman@launchpad.unc.edu (Bathsheba Grossman)
Subject: Re: Argh! Total, Complete misery.
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 06:10:49 GMT

>>Trygve   (Who doesn't mind being in captivity from time to time, but
>>          prefers thick, soft cotton rope--handcuffs tend to be 
>>          uncomfortable and too small while scarves tend to tear if
>>          I start to struggle at all.) 

Nylon stockings also work ok, though perhaps not if you're built to
conquer European civilization.  Hi everybody, am still reading, it's just
that I don't have anything to say about kids or marriage or politics or
bigots.  The sculpture thang is pretty hot at the moment too; I just got
the most _beautiful tool, it's like having a baby with an off switch.  My
very own vertical mill/household god/mechanical companion.  Machines are
my friends.

My problem is what to tie _to, as the nomadic lifestyle doesn't include
four-posted heavy-framed pickled-oak beds.  I'm thinking of running
carriage bolts through the floor but don't know that mon cher landlord
will understand.

Phoned up Thurlow's answering machine.  Cute, mildly witty, with a
tender, oaky nose and somewhat acidy afterbite; but mine has far more
stylistic integrity.  (215) 222-7706 - amuse me.

-Sheba
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: Do you remember 1970 to 1980?
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 22:22:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.203114.8168@julian.uwo.ca>, jdnicoll@prism.ccs.uwo.ca (James Davis Nicoll) writes:
> In article <1992Nov12.174549.24150@b8.b8.ingr.com> larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings) writes:
> >In article <9211112207.AA06353@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com>, GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu writes:
> >> 
> >>       As part of an impromptu research project, I'd like to know what
> >>   YOU think the single most important ( dramatic, traumatic ) event of`
> >>   1970 to 1980 was.
> >> 
> >traumatic: Carter boycotting 1976 Olympics.

I don't have to worry about memory laspes, I know the net will clear up 
any mistake made.  :)

> 
> 	Carter boycotted the Montreal Olympics, as  well as the Moscow
> Olympics in 1980? Good thing he didn't take office  until 1977, or there
> could  have international effects from his boycott. Any idea  what upset
> him?

Yes I do.  It was that his GRAIN EMBARGO didn't work.

> 
> 							James Nicoll 


Larry Billings
Most of us are sad, No one lets it show,
I've been shadows of myself,How was I to know?         Eagles
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: allisson@turing.toronto.edu (H. Allisson Roome)
Subject: Pearls in Front of Swine
Organization: Net.Gypsy/ROM
Distribution: na
Date: 13 Nov 92 04:24:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.112804.23647@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> 
markr@mcil.comm.mot.com writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.200641.15429@netcom.com> marv@netcom.com (
>Marvin Raab) writes:
>>   I haven't really read soc.singles in atleast a year and have even
>>stopped searching for my name in the group. Same subjects over and
>>over and over and over, too many college kids, nothing really exciting, etc.
>
>I also stopped reading for about 2 years, (because of a lack of net access)
>but have started again recently because after wading through the repeats and
>the college-age stuff, I sometimes come across some gems.

As one of the newer oldsters (longer than 2 years counts I think),
something I've learned is that if you don't like the topics and have
nothing to comment on -- write a *new* post - the topic may be similar
to those already discussed *but* the thoughts (I hope) are original.
Commuting 5 hours each day doesn't leave me a lot of time for News (the
connection is a home -- otherwise I'd never come home<wry grin>) but I
manageby skimming and contributing when I have time and writing posts
that I hope start interesting threads ...


Allisson  (I have to dig up that fondue pot -- PhillyBoink is in 7
	   days and it's time to polish the banana trick and even
	   a new varient)

NB - I just had to throw a salicious comment in for form.

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"Kindness is the beginning and end of the Law" - Hebrew Proverb
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: ISO MY PRINCESS
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:47:38 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <92317.225317WJB117@psuvm.psu.edu> WJB117@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
|I AM LOOKING FOR A NICE WHITE FEMALE IN PENNSYLVANIA.   Between the ages of 20-
|23 years old. I have brown hair, brown eyes, 6'2" big billed, and a junior in p
|enn State university. My major is nursing so if your looking for that speacial
|attention at any hour please send mail. I just might become your personal male
|nurse. by the way here is a rose for you until you send me mail.
|--------<--------<------<------<----<@
|Until we type again. Love Bill

I think I'm going to be sick.

Medic!!

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu (Randy Zagar)
Subject: Re: Education and the Single World
Reply-To: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu
Organization: Marine Studies, University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:20:41 GMT

In article 3329@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu, Allisson Roome writes:
>
>I have a question for you all -- how important is formal education
>versus native intelligence and self-education in those that you are
>romantically interested in?
>
> [stuff deleted]
>

The level of 'formal' education isn't an issue with me.  Unless, of course,
*they* make it an issue!  Then(!) there'll be some problems.

I _want_ my partner to have diverse interests/knowledge.  I'd especially
like it if they knew about stuff I haven't been exposed to yet.  That way
they can introduce me to new things and I can do likewise...


-Randy

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From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: girl/lady/female boy/guy/male
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:39:12 GMT
	<1992Nov10.060932.28448@samba.oit.unc.edu>
	<1992Nov10.184253.20942@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: smith@comm.mot.com's message of 10 Nov 92 18:42:53 GMT


In article <1992Nov10.184253.20942@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith) writes:

   In article <1992Nov10.060932.28448@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Bathsheba.Grossman@launchpad.unc.edu (Bathsheba Grossman) writes:

   |> In this vein, let it be known that any person who refers to me as a
   |> "sculptress" will receive a swift boot to the head.  This is a term whose
   |> excess specifity is not valuable in any context.  IMO.

   Well...there is one. Say, for the sake of argument, I were dating a sculptperson. And say that I mentioned to my friends that I were dating
   a sculpter. It just doesn't sound quite as...non-controversial...as scultptress!

Better than dating a sculpture...
			   ---
			
Spidey!!!


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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rridge@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ross Ridge)
Subject: Re: PRES DEBATE
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 17:04:35 GMT

martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>Disagree with the Republicans if you want -- but to demonize them the
>way you do requires real ignorance.

rridge@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ross Ridge) writes:
>And you think your posting was any better? 

martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>Ross, you silly twit, if I'm arguing that the Republicans aren't the
>*only* ones who use dirty tricks or are sometimes less than ethical,
>what do you expect?

To not to resort to dirty tricks yourself.  Can't you make your case
by just using the half decent facts you had, rather than mostly
unsubstantiable rumor?  The only thing you demonstrated is that you'ld
make a fine politician.

>Should I use hypothetical dirty tricks?

Didn't you? 

>Should I change the names to protect the guilty?

Guilty?  No one, except Richard Nixon was guilty (if pardoned), or
do you think the principle of being innnocent until proven guilty doesn't
apply to people you don't like?

						Ross Ridge

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: mutation@dorsai.com (Florian Lengyel)
Subject: Re: How would *you* react?
Organization: The Dorsai Embassy +1.718.729.5018
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 07:21:50 GMT

atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik) writes:
: In article 9585@tandem.com, leo@cpd.Tandem.COM (Leo Hejza) writes:
: >In article <186@cnmhnet.UUCP>, keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard) writes:
: >>In article <BwyLEH.4nw@news.udel.edu> helie@bach.udel.edu (Ray Helie) writes:
: >>>keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard) writes:
: >>>want to date.  What about you?
: >>
: >>Sorry about sounding too harsh in my earlier post.  What I
: >>meant about women being abundant was that there are a lot
: >>of women out there to choose from for whatever purposes
: >>you have in mind.  Yes, sex is easy to find.  I think we 
: >>all know that nowadays.  However, I will agree with you
: >>that a serious long term relationship isn't easy to find.
: >>However, I meant also that as the man gets older, there
: >                             ----------------------------
: >
: >>are greater numbers to choose from, thereby increasing
: >---------------------------------------------------------
: >
: >>the likelihood of finding a partner who is suitable to
: >---------------------------------------------------------
: >
: >>the man's likes and dislikes.  I hope this clarifies
: >-------------------------------
: >
: >>my earlier post.   
: >>--Keith
: >
: >Or is is possibly, as a man gets older he gets wiser. And as a man gets
: >wiser he begins to realize that many of the things he searched for as a younger
: >man are no longer so important?
: >
: >A little maturity and wisdom can go a long way towards getting your
: >priorities straight.
: >
: >i.e. 
: >
: >I'll gladly trade physical beauty for healthy emotional intimacy.
: >
: >Sensitivity, sharing, and feeling, are much more important than having
: >a partner which fulfills the common madison avenue definition of
: >desirable.
: 
: I agree. I'm tired of great looking women who know how great they look
: and can't get deep emotionally. Emotional intimacy is far more important
: to me than knockout physical characteristics any day.
: 
: dreas
: 

Count me in. My last girlfriend was very very pretty and cute, and
had a temperature of 0 Kelvin. I got tired of grovelling and told her
that I didn't think she was worth the trouble. Well, she was 1 degree Kelvin:
at least she was orgasmic with me. I know that sounds cruel, but she
said a lot of gratuitously nasty things to me, which I put up with for
a while because she was so attractive. She was very suprised when I
came to my senses.

There's nothing wrong with a great looking woman who has no idea 
how good she looks, however. But I have to agree with you. There's
no comparison, from the little experience that I have of people who
are capable of some warmth.

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: markbr%radian@natinst.com (markbr)
Subject: Re: raising children
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:15:30 GMT
Organization: n.o.y.b

In article <1992Nov6.202032.8249@gvl.unisys.com> liz@prc.unisys.com (Liz Loquacious) writes:
>In article <lfg8ofINNhdp@news.bbn.com>, dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
>|> spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope) writes:
>|> >
>|> >There IS nothing "unfortunate" about raising kid(s) alone.
>|> >What's unfortunate is society's negative view of this situation,
>|> >which is unfounded.
>|> 
>|> NOTHING unfortunate about it?  How about having no time to yourself and
>|> half the money?  How about not having the freedom to take a break or to
>|> even get sick?  How about not having a second opinion when those decisions
>|> come up?
>
>Just reading what you've quoted here from Steve it sounds like he's belittling
>the difficulty associated with being a single parent but I took his overall
>message as trying to say that what makes it more difficult is that society
>is set up for and views positively only two parent families so the support for
>single parent families is not there in the mainstream.  I don't get any support
>from my family (who live in New York anyway) and the latest comment about me
>which came from my father was that I'm dead to him, supposedly because of the
>divorce but he's been hiding behind religous dogma forever and we've never had
>a real relationship so it's deeper than that.  I don't think his views are all
>that common but it's like mapping unchartered territory for me to look for 
>support in the community although I'm making some progress including hopefully
>moving to an area where there is much more of a sense of community and support
>for lots of lifestyles.  I am finding it hard to ask and I think a lot of
>that has to do with how much I've been taught about how self-sufficient adults 
>and families are "supposed" to be in this society.  I think that many people
>think that two parents ought to be able to do it all without outside
>support as well.  At least that's how I felt when I listened to the approbative
>
Yep, to the above. Since this is here on alt.pagan, I'll add in a relevant
comment: we always hear how children are supposed to be "gifts of God". 
Right. What's one of the nasiest words you can throw at someone (at least
it's nasty when you mean it, and people react to it deeply)? Bastard. "We
LOOOVE children (as long as they're legitimate, and their parents had a
license to screw)". (Better to marry than to burn but better not to at all,
to paraphrase one of the lovely few things I know attributed to St. Paul
(or was it Augustine?)). "If they're *BASTARDS*, however, *I* won't let *MY*
children play with them, they might catch the vile disease...."

Oh, and *congrats* on the end of the diapers.

*NOW* you know what tv's for. Why do you think we got cable when we moved
into town? (Nickleodeon, and, for older kids, the McGyver channel (at least
it seems that way, whenever we walk in....))

>Liz Loquacious
>

	mark
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: How would *you* react?
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:08:35 GMT

In article <186@cnmhnet.UUCP>, keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard) writes:

> However, I meant also that as the man gets older, there
> are greater numbers to choose from, thereby increasing
> the likelihood of finding a partner who is suitable to

Yes, The numbers increase tremendously.

Example time:

When I was 12 to 13 age range Females 17+ were "old women" and unacceptable.
When I was 16 to 17 age range Females 22+ were "old women" and unacceptable.
Now that I'm in my 30's 15 to 50 is acceptable.  :)

> --Keith
> 

Larry Billings
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (eleanor.j.evans)
Subject: Re: Education and the Single World
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:12:00 GMT


Allisson asks about education in regard to dating potential....

An [ex, but not relevant to this] boyfriend of mine once said,
"I'm worried that you're awed by my PhD."  *snort*  I laughed
in his face--had trouble stopping, actually.  I decided when I
was eight that I was going to be Dr. Evans (not that I am, yet
:-).)  Just seemed like that's what you did in my family....

Then there's the guy I dumped shortly after I found out that
he couldn't even get _in_ to Va. Tech (and he was a local,
too!).  Not because he couldn't get in, but because this
discovery started unravelling his entire tissue of lies.
(I was a lot more trusting in those days....)



Piglet

Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.sex.bondage
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Argh! Total, Complete misery.
Followup-To: soc.singles 
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 21:30:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.113739.13704@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> markr@mcil.comm.mot.com writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.180142.26353@cbnews.cb.att.com> eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (eleanor.j.evans) writes:
>>
>>Houseguests of mine were _extremely_ thoughtful.  They left behind
>>just such thick, soft cotton ropes tied to the feet of my (guest) 
>>double bed.  Now, wasn't that sweet??
>
>Why can't I have guests like that ?  Seriously though, I've been
>looking for just the above type of rope (soft cotton) and all I
>can find is the braided stuff which isn't too comfortable.  Where
>can comfortable, relatively strong, soft cotton rope be found ?
>(If it were washable, that would be a plus)

Well, I've noticed that there is quite a variation in what local hardware
stores carry, but interestinglt enough, the hardware store closest to me
seems to have about the best selection of rope in the area.  Also, you
might try any store that carries a good selection of drapery and upholstery
fabric.

Trygve   (Who, for that added techno-nerd bondage touch, uses heat-shrink
          tubing to keep the ends of the rope from fraying.) 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: PRES DEBATE
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:11:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.212607.13694@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, rridge@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ross Ridge) writes:
|> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
|> >Hmmm, and that brings up a questionin my mind, speaking of history
|> >judging ex-Presidents.  I wonder where Richard Nixon is these days?  I
|> >wonder why old senile Ronald Reagan is out campaigning for Bush while
|> >another former Republican President stays quiet?  Why DON'T they
|> >bring Nixon along for the ride?  After all, NIXON'S THE ONE.  I kept
|> >one of THOSE buttons, you betcha.
|> 
|> martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
|> >Well, actually, Nixon's rehabilitation is proceeding as well.

|> >Disagree with the Republicans if you want -- but to demonize them the
|> >way you do requires real ignorance.
|> 
|> And you think your posting was any better? 
|> 

Well...it was more or less factual, and didn't rely on popularly held
opinions to get support. You be the judge.

jds

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From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Hints (Was Re: What is attractive)
Date: 10 Nov 92 03:15:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: sol.1992Nov10.031559.22857
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada

In article 721242859@convex.convex.com, thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
>In <1992Nov5.182021.23840@schbbs.mot.com> Matt Valentine writes:
>
>>The response to the 'hints' thread has been great.  I summarized the  
>>various opinions I have been gathering:
>
>I find your summaries good but written as if men and women were
>different species.  Men have needs and have to help women learn what
>they are, and women have a duty to try to meet the needs they can
>meet.  Take it from me, as someone who once tried dating a very sweet
>but almost completely thoughtless woman, and couldn't get my needs
>met despite my very best attempts to tell her what I wanted & needed.

And women have needs too! Happy is 
the man who knows and appreciates 
this.He also has a better time!

dreas                   I,too, live inside me,
                        And very often don't know who I am.
                        I know I'm not a hero,
                        And I hope that I'm not damned!
                        I'm just a man!!!                   -Peter Hammill
                        
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer)
Subject: Re: Ridding the Third Wheel
Organization: Netcom - San Jose, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 06:22:04 GMT

In article <73972@apple.Apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>rll1@kepler.unh.edu (Robert L Lamothe) writes:
>
>>He calls her on a dailey basis,
>>often drops in unnanounced and uses any cheap shot he can pull at her.
>>The stress this places on her often gets her crying.  She hasn't told him
>>about us because she wants him to realize that his problems are the reason
>>why she no longer wants to be around him, she feels that if he knew about
>>us he'd just blame me.  
>
>She is trying to run his recovery ('she wants him to realize...' it is up 
>to *him* to realize things, she can't do it for him). Furthermore, she is 
>being deceitful. It's  supposedly in the service of helping her ex,
>but it doesn't seem like a good idea. It appears she is still very
>emotionally involved with him. (I'm not saying 'in love,' but 'involved.')
>
>Her ex won't get out of her life until she tells him in no uncertain terms
>to leave her alone. IMO, he will not recover or get over her until she does
>this. However, it may be difficult for her to realize this and to break her 
>emotional attachment to him.
>
>Are you willing to put up with this process for however long it takes? 
>Is your emotional support allowing her to continue trying to help her ex?
>

     I agree with Stef's advice.  I would like to add some more.  If I
was in a relationship with this lady, I would suggest that she change
her phone number and possibly move without telling her ex.  That way
he would be out of her and my life for good.

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