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From: pbd@runyon.cim.cdc.com (Paul Dokas x4629)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Strange and Unusual stops in the U.S.
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:51:40 GMT
Organization: ICEM Systems, Inc.

|> In article <lorange.722032623@spot.Colorado.EDU>, lorange@spot.Colorado.EDU (Hans L'Orange) writes...
|> >I'm in the process of putting together a surprise (read gag) travel folder
|> >for some friends about to drive cross-country.  I want to include any 
|> >unusual stops that I can come up with so please forward any ideas you might
|> >have on to me.  I'm looking for things like the largest ball of string or
|> >the Museum of Unusual, Nocturnal and Ugly Insects.
|> > 
|> >Thanks,
|> > 
|> >Hans

How about:

  Car-Henge:  a duplicate of StoneHenge built entirely out of old cars.  Located
              in western Nebraska.

  Wall Drug:  an infamous tourist trap, excuse me, stop, in South(??) Dakota.  They
              have billboards across the country that read "Only 1000 miles to Wall
              Drug".

  The Corn Palace:  Somewhere in Nebraska I think.  A palace made entirely out of
              corn.

All that I can think of right now.
-- 
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Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 12:25:20 -0500 
From: Michael Franzini <mf1w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: trans-Atlantic moving

I'm moving from Madrid, Spain to Southern California in a few weeks,
and I'd like to ship a lot of my belongings by boat.

Does anybody have suggestions/comments/horror-stories about moving a
household across an ocean?  I'm especially confused by the huge
variance in quotes from shipping companies I've called.

Thanks in advance.

-----
Donn Hoffman -- Telefonica Investigacion y Desarollo
Internet: dante@tid.es        Voice/fax: +34 1 594 52 57
Disclaimer: My employer doesn't know what email is.
* Automatic replies to this message probably won't work.
* If your mailer can't find Spain, try: dante%tid.es@mcsun.eu.net
Organization: Heinz School, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:03:10 -0500 
From: Gary Franko <gf0r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Myrtle Beach S.C.?


  I am planning on trveling to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina between

Christmas and New Years. I would like any information on good places to 

stay. I am looking for a room that is overlooking the ocean with its

own balconey. I would prefer something inexpensive (the rates should

be low because of the time of year). If you have any experience or info

on the golf packages, that would be helpful to.

Thank you,

I am also looking for some good golf courses to play.
From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Strange and Unusual stops in the U.S.
Date: 21 Nov 92 00:30:52 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.ucsc.edu


Well there's Mount Rushmore, and if you get as far south as
San Antonio there's the Buckhorn Hall of Horns, part of the Lone Star
Brewery.  It is a museum devoted to furniture made of horns, wall hangings
made of rattlesnake rattles, wax figures in scenes of Texas history,
stuffed animals, all kinds of rustic oddities.
-- 
haynes@cats.ucsc.edu
haynes@cats.bitnet

"Ya can argue all ya wanna, but it's dif'rent than it was!"
"No it aint!  But ya gotta know the territory!"
        Meredith Willson: "The Music Man"
From: doggie@cats.ucsc.edu (Anne-Gigi Ann Chi Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Baltimore... Need Info
Date: 20 Nov 92 10:17:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


     I am going to Baltimore and Washington DC over the X'mas vacation. 
I was planning to stay in Baltimore for a week and then meet my brother 
in DC. However, because I am not a member of AYH, I can only stay at their
hostel for 3 nights.

     Does anyone have any idea if there are any other places where I can
stay that has the rates close to that at AYH (about $15 per night)? (something
around $25 is fine) Also, is there anywhere interesting that I can
visit around Baltimore which has cheap accomodation to offer? 

     Thanks in advance! :)

Anne-gigi

pls email doggie@cats.ucsc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: chucker@bnr.ca (Ron Mcewen)
Subject: Cuba
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ontario, Canada
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:31:30 GMT

I'm booked to go to Cuba for one week starting Dec. 27th.
I'd like to hear from people who have been there recently
about what the country is like, the state of the ecomony
and any things that I should try to do or see.
-- 
Ron McEwen     | email : chucker@bnr.ca | phone: (613) 765-4591
Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
From: skaamjm@uk.ac.ucl (M.Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Youth Hostelling in the 26 Counties with An Oige
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:31:34 GMT
Organization: Institute_of_Neurology

In article <1992Nov18.162100.12524@aber.ac.uk> apf8@aber.ac.uk (A-P (and his Hat)) writes:
>From: apf8@aber.ac.uk (A-P (and his Hat))
>Subject: Youth Hostelling in the 26 Counties with An Oige
>Date: 18 Nov 92 16:21:00 GMT

>Greetings.

>Hands up anyone out there who has has any experience of Youth
>Hostelling in Eire. I'd like to hear from anyone who can tell
>me anything about the state of individual hostels (no general-
>izations please!).

I have seen the Hostel at Glendalough, which looked very good (but was full 
up).

I stayed one night at Glenmalure, which I would recommend to anyone.

We came down from Lugnacuilla at twilight, and walked a couple of miles down 
the glen to the hostel, which is open at weekends only, but is just great if 
you didnt know where you were going to stay.

Facilities are basic. Bunk beds, good warm sleeping bags, good toilets, no 
electricity, open fire (brill), and the only running water is the Avonbeg 
river outside (but being a fast mountain river, with no evidence of
sheep or cattle up on the hills, its safe enough to drink, and er, wash in 
once you have warmed it up a bit.

 
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: barker@wri.com (Harold Barker)
Subject: Car rental  HELP
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:51:01 GMT



I need to rent a car in "the Bay area", next week.  No problem you say, I  
do not have a credit card.  I have called a few local rental companies  
locally and they do not have any suggestions.  A few years ago it was  
possible to get a ID card from a rental company.  with this card one could  
rent with cash.   Is this service still offered, do i have any options?


thanks
harold 

---
Please reply by email to barker@wri.com
From: neals@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Neal Sorensen)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Belize travel
Date: 21 Nov 92 00:26:33 GMT
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.

A friend and I are flying into Cancun 11-25. We are considering working
our way down the coast and into belize. I have traveled around the
Yucatan but never to Belize. I havn't found much in books on travel
there. Has anyone traveled by bus from Mexico that could fill me in.
Any info on travel out to the cays in the Northern part of the country.
Recommendations on lodging, costs, etc would be helpful.

Thanks in advance.
Neal


Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: DEANRE@bscf.uga.edu (ROBIN DEAN)
Subject: Miami beach info wanted
Organization: University of Georgia, USA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:45:15 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

I am going to be going to Miami Beach over Christmas and was wanting to
know something about the area as far as what one should do and see while there.
I am planning on a deep sea fishing trip but will be there for a full week so
I was interested in what else the area had to offer.  My wife and 10 month
old son will be going with me and any information on what we could do together
would be very much appreciated.

                                         Thanks,

                                         Rob

deanre@bscf.uga.edu
From: dms10@po.CWRU.Edu (David M. Shlaes)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: RENTALS, PROVENCE, SOUTHERN FRANCE
Date: 16 Nov 1992 02:49:31 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
 
                RENTALS, PROVENCE, SOUTHERN FRANCE
 
     We own a small house built in the 1300s in a small medevil
Reply-To: dms10@po.CWRU.Edu (David M. Shlaes)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu

village in southern France, just 45 min drive NW of Avignon.  The
house has been completely redecorated, but retains its medevil
charm.  It has a modern kitchen and 1 1/2 baths (modern shower),
two bedrooms (sleeps four adults comfortably), washing machine, a
30 sq meter terrace.  It is one block from a crystal clear river
with beach.  It is available from May 1 through September 30,
1993.  Our rates are $500 per week in May, $600 per week in June
or September or $2200 for the month, and $700 per week in July and
August or $2600 for the month. Pictures and further info are
available on request.
     Our neighbor in France rents a small house (rustic) in the
same village.  It sleeps five adults and rents for 3000 FF per
week.  He also rents apartments just outside the village.  The
apartments are modern and well equipped.  They come with a terrace
and a swimming pool and tennis court are available for apartment
renters.   The rates for the apartments are approximately 1800 FF
per week for studios (sleep two) and 2000 FF per week for one
bedroom apartments (sleep four).
     Get back to me by E-mail if you're interested in any of these
rentals.  
 
-- 
Best,

Dave Shlaes
From: ck502@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jim Morrison)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Travel to Wales
Date: 24 Nov 1992 01:05:39 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu



My wife and I are planning a trip to Great Britain in the Spring and we
would like to visit southern Wales for at least a few days.  The travel
books that I have looked at have plenty of information on Cardiff but not
much else.

I would appreciate any information/recommendations for places to visit.
Our main interests are in sight-seeing (parks, castles, historic locations).

Also, is renting a car a neccesity or is bus/rail transportation adequate?

Thanks,
Jim Morrison (yes that's my real name)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: ammann@cs.sfu.ca (Ammann Manuel)
Subject: Inexpensive hotels in Paris
Keywords: hotels, central, cheap, Paris
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:39:22 GMT

I'm looking for an inexpensive, but centrally located hotel
in Paris.

Any recommendations?

email to ammann@sfu.ca

Thanks,

Manuel
From: zhimin@unssun.nevada.edu (Zhimin Chen)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Cultural tour to China...
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:44:18 GMT
Reply-To: zhimin@unssun.nevada.edu (Zhimin Chen)
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno

I'm trying to organize a cultural tour to China. It will be about 18 days
for next summer, somewhere around later May and June.
The tour will feature regular visiting in Beijing, Xian, Guilin, Hangzhou
Canton, Shanghai and Hong Kong, and an five nights stay in the scenic city
of Hangzhou where lectures and field trips will be given in Chinese music,
traditional medicine like Taiji, qigong therapy, talking with professionals and school teachers. Visiting the largest silk factory in China and local museums 
will also be included.

Some other activities can also be arranged at request.

I don't have an exact price for the full-package tour, but I organized a similar
tour last summer, and the price was about $2300, including international airfare, all meals in China, hotel accommodation (3-star or above), all city tour guide with private bus.

This year, a professional guide from China International Travel Service, a real good fella that I know very well, will be the tour leader and therefore will
accompany the tour from US to the last city in China.

I'm posting this, trying to send a test ballon and see how much interest
out there.  Everything will be concretized by the end of the year. And 
if you are interested, please send me a letter, give me a call, or drop me
an E-mail.  I'm a graduate student at University of Nevada, Reno.

Here's my address: 1655 Wedekind Rd. #E  Reno, NV 89512 Tel.:702-786-9274
 
 
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: ross@tarski.tmc.edu (David Ross)
Subject: Re: Kauai after the hurricane?
Keywords: Hawaii Kauai
Organization: University of Hawaii Mathematics Department
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:57:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.205621.1379@rcc.de> bernward@rcc.de (Bernward Averwald) writes:
>So my question: is it reasonable to go to Kauai in the first half
>of january?

Contraindicated.  Most hotels estimate that they'll be coming on line
about then, which really means that they won't be ready until
February.  The cleanup is coming slower than anticipated (there's
still over 10% downage on power and phone).

How about Molokai, or the Big Island (to see the lava flows, which are
pretty spectacular these days)?


--
David Ross, Dept. of Math., Univ. of Hawaii at Manoa, Honolulu HI  96822
Internet: ross@math.hawaii.edu  -or- ross@tarski.math.hawaii.edu
Phone: 808-956-9949
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: andy@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Bond)
Subject: Mardi Gras date for 1993
Organization: Gatewayed from mail to news at VUW, New Zealand
X-Mailer: mail-news 4.1
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:49:22 GMT

Someone posted a program to work these out ages ago but I lost it :-(.
Does some kind soul have the date for 1993?

thanks,
andy
From: doggie@cats.ucsc.edu (Anne-Gigi Ann Chi Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Hong Kong Travel Tips Wanted
Date: 20 Nov 92 23:24:47 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


I just want to say a word about staying at the guest house at 
Ching Hing Mansion... There has been a number of fires at
this building and/or the bldg. right next to it in the past
few years. So even though it is cheap, it is quite risky
living there.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: Cessna@kn5f.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark T. Evert)
Subject: Re: Trans-atlantic cruises - Seasickness?
Organization: Loral Space Information Systems
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:43:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.152855.15349@gvl.unisys.com> red@prc.unisys.com 
(Rebecca Davis) writes:
> Has anyone had experience with taking a transatlantic cruise from
> N America to Europe, and if so, what were your impressions of the
> trip?  Do you think a 3 and 5 yr old would be able to handle it
> without being seasick, assuming there weren't any huge storms to
> traverse?  We are thinking of doing this as a less stressful way
> of moving from Philadelphia to Nice, France, as well as a once-in-a-
> lifetime experience for the kids.  Assuming they`re not too busy
> upchucking to enjoy it.

I'd say the kids are less likely to get sick than you would be.

Mark T. Evert
Friendswood, TX

My opinions are strictly my own.
From: ngsw@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Soon Wei NG)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Singapore to Jakarta suggestions wanted
Date: 16 Nov 92 04:18:02 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Singapore

Yes, there are lots of Travel Agents in Singapore that cater package deals to
Jakarta and the rest of the world. They provide from bare minimum air ticket
& hotel (more commercially known as FREE AND EASY) to a full package that
includes tour toevery corner of Indonesia. 

Enjoy your trip.


      Hello Netters,

      I am flying to Singapore in about 2 weeks and would like to visit
      Jakarta, Indonesia.  Does anyone out there have any tips for getting
      around Jakarta (hotels, transportation, prices, etc.)?

      Also, does anyone in Singapore know whether the travel agents downtown
      sell package deals to Jakarta, and if so, what do they provide?

      Thanks very much!

      --  Dan
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Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.new-zealand
From: sveini@mack.uit.no (Svein-Ivar Lillehaug)
Subject: Does MasterCard "work" in New Zealand?
Organization: University of Tromsoe
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:25:15 GMT

Is it possible to "survive and get around" with a MasterCard in New Zealand?
Is the MC well accepted by shops, motels, restaurants, banks etc. all over 
the country? What about access to "money machines" with the MC?


Thanks in advance,
Svein-Ivar
From: rhaller@ns.uoregon.edu (Rich Haller)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Home exchange programs
Followup-To: rec.travel
Date: 19 Nov 1992 20:33:06 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rhaller.cc.uoregon.edu

I am looking for information on organizations that arrange for people in
different countries to exchange homes for a period of time. If this is
covered in an FAQ, please tell me from whence I can ftp it. In any case,
please respond by e-mail.

-Rich Haller <rhaller@ns.uoregon.edu>   University of Oregon, Eugene, OR,
USA
From: hal@biosys.apldbio.com (Hal Beilan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Puerto Rico Info
Date: 19 Nov 92 02:23:04 GMT
Organization: Applied Biosystems Inc, Foster City, CA


I know some of you don't like the general postings "looking for
advice/information about ..." but I got such valuable advice last 
week about Costa Rica (thanks to those who responded) that a 
friend asked me to post this for her.

She's going alone to Puerto Rico early next month and would like
to know the usual: where to go/avoid/stay, helpful hints, etc.

Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: rec.climbing
From: davin@hardy.u.washington.edu (David Veale)
Subject: Need help with Chouinard ski poles!!!
        Just this last weekend I was fortunate enough to snap the
        Does anyone out there in net-land have a single pole they would be
        I was also thinking that I might be able to use the bottom part of
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 19:46:22 GMT
From: bobh@fuji.hwr.arizona.edu (Bob Harrington)
Newsgroups: rec.climbing
Subject: Re: Finger Boards?
Date: 21 Nov 92 03:55:35 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona -- Tucson, AZ

In article <106480317@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> j_elison@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Elison) writes:
>
>
>
>What do folks think about finger boards?  Do you use them?  Why or why not?
>Do you use them because you have no other way of training or do you mix them
>in with bouldering or climbing wall workouts?
>

I've got one (early model Metolius) that hangs in my garage, and gets
intermittent regular use. The thing thats nice about it is available 
when I'm to busy to get out to the rocks. For myself, it does seem to
have a very positive effect on my climbing ablilty - maybe even more
positive than bouldering.

>I've got access to several climbing gyms, a 600 sq. ft. climbing wall in
>my basement, and live (and work) 15 minutes from 3 great bouldering areas.
>So, I haven't used finger boards much at all.  I always figured that
>bouldering does as much good and is much more fun.  I had a used board for
>awhile and sold it.
>

I agree with you about bouldering being far more fun, but Tucson has
pretty limited oportunities; if I had that kind of access to
good bouldering that you do, I'd never touch the board, however, I think 
the board is good training, with a more focused emphasis on finger 
strength training than bouldering has.

>However, after reading Gary Ryan's article in Rock & Ice and seeing him
>place 3rd at the Horsetooth Hang, I wonder if it wouldn't help.  It is 
>certainly a Very specific workout.  I'm beginning to think that two
>sessions a week aimed at finger power might be worth the short time it
>takes.

That's the great thing about a board - a significant workout only takes
a few minutes. Put it somewhere where you walk past it several times
each day, and hange off it each time you walk by it.

>
>Mort

Bob Harrington
bobh@hwr.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: rec.climbing
From: ted@nmsu.edu (Ted Dunning)
Subject: Re: Hueco Tanks State Park temporarily closed
Reply-To: ted@nmsu.edu
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Distribution: rec.climbing
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:06:38 GMT



In article <TED.92Nov19115655@lole.nmsu.edu> ted@nmsu.edu (Classic Ted) writes:

   Newsgroups: rec.climbing
Path: nmsu.edu!opus!ted
   From: ted@nmsu.edu (Classic Ted)

   if you turn up in town, give me a call... i am in the book.




Classic Ted = Ted Dunning



(505) 525-1286


(how EMBARASSING).
Newsgroups: rec.climbing
From: jmorton@euler.Berkeley.EDU (John Morton)
Subject: Salathe 
Reply-To: jmorton@euler.Berkeley.EDU (John Morton)
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:00:37 GMT

I don't remember anything in this group to suggest that the word
has got round that John Salathe died last summer.

Since I am announcing this I will supply a few facts for those who
know nothing about him (it's all from memory, correct me if you
feel like it):

Salathe was a Swiss blacksmith who took up rock climbing in about 1946
after a brush with a near-fatal stomach ailment.  He attributed his
survival to a religious revelation which included dietary restrictions
that were a regular topic of discussion and humor among his partners.
I think he ate only fruits and nuts, maybe vegetables too.

During his climbing career (which lasted about ten years), he lived 
on the San Francisco Peninsula, and was therefore involved with the 
Bay Area Sierra Club rock climbing sections.  He climbed with all the
leading lights of this group and pioneered a number of famous routes
in California, as well as some obscure ones.  He was in his late
forties when he started doing this stuff.

Salathe's most well-known accomplishments are the Lost Arrow Chimney 
(w/ Ax Nelson), N. Face of Sentinel Rock (w/ Al Steck) and the SW Face 
of Half Dome (don't remember the partner for this one).  These are
all in Yosemite Valley.  He is also known locally for his bold 
(and free!) ascent of The Hand, a rather fearsome route at Pinnacles 
Nat'l. Monument.

The other contribution for which Salathe will be remembered is the
invention of forged tool steel pitons which could be driven repeatedly.
A few people have examples of these historic items, which hopefully
will make their way into some kind of museum, rather than be dispersed
as at the Access Fund auctions.  Steck has his bolt kit.

Salathe quit climbing after doing his famous routes; that must have
been about 1954.  I met him once in about 1963 I guess, when he came to
Yosemite and visited with the admiring locals.  His mind was on the
angels, and he had utterly no concept of the advances in Yosemite
climbing (e.g. Sentinel N. Face in 4 hrs. - he said, "You mean 4 _days_?")

I believe many of the intervening years were spent in the old country,
but at some point he wound up in a home somewhere near Indio, California.
Some of his old climbing friends visited him there, and that is where
he died at the age of 92.

John Morton					University of California
jmorton@euler.berkeley.edu			Mechanical Engineering
{decvax,cbosgd}!ucbvax!euler!jmorton		Machine Shop
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.climbing
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 11:44:35 -0500 
From: Michael Minhall Chang <mc7z+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Climbing in JTree

Another question for you guys?


Does anybody know the best area to climb in JTree.   I need a place with
alot of 5.10's with some bolted routs and safe places to TR.   What are
your favorite places.



mike c.
love 5.10's