From: makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Subject: Re: What is this doing on page 15
Reply-To: makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 03:08:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.005744.27261@netcom.com> zmbenhal@netcom.com (Zeyd M. Ben-Halim) writes:

# In article <1993Jan4.124716.7393@ennews.eas.asu.edu> makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:

# ># Beacuse FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME, the deportation are against international law.

# >	And for the millionth time, that is simply not true.  Repeating
# >that lie does not make it true (even when repeated "FOR THE MILLIONTH
# >TIME"), and follows the Nazi pattern of the big lie.

# >	As WIlliam Safire (among others) has pointed out, such an action
 
# And who the fuck appointed William Safire THE interpreter of International law?

	William Safire did not give his interpretation.  He was reporting
on the OFFICIAL interpretations of the Geneva Conventions as well as
its evolution.

# The UN, including the USA, says it is. Everybody in the world execpt Israel
# accepts that deportations are against the Geneva convention. The accused's
# interpretation of the law is irrelevant.
 
	The US and the world are making POLITICAL, NOT LEGAL, statements.
When Bush Baker & Associates wanted the State department to issue a
legal opinion with your interpretation, they had to get some third
rate flunky to do it.  None of their top lawyers would because they
knew it was bogus.

# >is not against international law.  Thos countries that condemn it as
# >such are making POLITICAL statements, they are NOT making LEGAL ones.

# ># A state is free to arrest anybody, not only terrorists, it can CHARGE them, and
# ># TRY them, and IF found guilt PUNISH them? Arresting somebody is not a
# ># punishment, deporting them IS. Collective punishment, imposed randomly, without
# ># charge or trial is a violation of human rights.

# >	You are being misleading.  Israel is fighting a war with these
# >people that these people declared against Israel.  Israel is certainly
# >within their rights to defend herself whether you like it or not.
 
# In that case they are free to kill any Israeli they come across! The reason
# Israel has to fight the arabs is because it continues to oppress them.
 
	Than why did the Arab war against the Jews start long before there
was an Israel, your false comment about Israeli oppression of Arabs
notwithstanding.

# ># Of course, non of this matters to you, all Israeli-apologists try to deflect
# ># the issue of how bad they are(considering the bragging about being a democracy)
# ># by pointing out how bad other people are. It is like being arrested for murder
# ># and ranting about how Manson, Bundy, and Dahmer are much worse than you are,
# ># you only killed a couple of people, therefore you should be patted on the back
# ># and told to go home.

# >	Wrong.  It is meant to show what kind of neighborhood Israel tries
# >to exist in.  Obviously, certain behaviour that is necessary in one
# >kind of environment is not allowed in others.
 
# I'm sure living in South-Central L.A. is an excuse for drive-by shootings. Nice
# going @#$%^*(!

	Nope.  But it might be an excuse for having a quick trigger finger
if you suspect someone in a car is about to shoot you.

# ># >Can You say "hypocrisy" boys and girls?
 
# ># I.S.R.A.E.L.I. A.P.O.L.O.G.I.S.T.S. , is that close?

# >	Nope.  Israel does not need apologists since it has nothing to
# >apologize for.
 
# An oxymoron If I ever seen one. "I'm NOT defensive!".
 
	I was making a point to some iombeciles who do not understand
simple logic.  There was no need to defend the actions.

# >--
# >	There are three types of people in the world.  Those that are good
# >at math and those that are not.
 
# You are obviously of the third kind :-)
 
	I thought I was of the fourth kind :-)
--
	There are three types of people in the world.  Those that are good
at math and those that are not.

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