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From: danaf@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Subject: Re: A4000
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 02:43:53 GMT

In article <1a2a1iINNa3h@uwm.edu>, gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:
|> ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu (Gregg Giles) writes:
|> :  I could see arcade games doing this, but not adventures - that would require
|> :two sets of art (one 32 color set, another a 256 color set). I suppose one cou
|> :use palette tricks on 256-color art to display it on a 32-color screen, but it
|> :probably wouldn't look to good (unless the 256-color screens were designed wit
|> : such tricks in mind).   
|> 
|> Again, having two sets of art is done all the time on IBM systems.
|> For instance, take a look at Sierra's stuff.  Etc...

Yes, well, on the Hard-Drive-barren Amiga, the big consideration is getting 
everything to fit onto the least number of disks!

(RIIIIGHT, Gregg? I'll never forgive you guys for chopping up Nova 9 to fit on
three disks.


....well, OK, I forgive you.)       8)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Low End AGA Machine
From: fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu
Date: 4 Oct 92 09:36:49 EST
Organization: Wright State University 

In article <1992Oct3.201602.5918@sol.cs.wmich.edu>, 22black@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Martin E. Black) writes:
> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
>>>
> 
> 
> And the price to them wouldn't be worth it.  But hey they do silly things anyway
> So if they intro an 020 machine and get flack for it, it wouldn't be something
> new to them.  I certainly wouldn't buy an 020, with no mmu.  

	What rationale have you got for bashing the 020?  The Amiga OS
	doesn't use an MMU for operation.  The 020, if the price is low
	enough, should work just fine IMHO.  From what I understand, save
	for MMU, the 030 and 020 have the same instruction sets but the 020
	is up to 4 times slower on some instructions. The 030 also has an 
	data cache in addition to an intruction cache.

	Again if having an 020 means a *substantially* lower price, it's
	not a big deal.  It *does* mean more people might be able to afford
	an AGA equiped Amiga.
> 
> Marty
> 
> 
Fred Heitkamp,  ** Not an organization.  My opinions only **

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: jerry@cs.mcgill.ca (Gerald (Jerry) KUCH)
Subject: Re: Commodore 486
Organization: McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 17:46:51 GMT

In article <James_Coulter.05pu@panam.wimsey.bc.ca> James_Coulter@panam.wimsey.bc.ca (James Coulter) writes:
>Just found this in one of the local computer ads:
>
>Commodore 486DX 33Mhz
>4MB Ram
>100MB harddrive
>3.5 and 5.25" floppies
>101 Enhanced Keyboard
>Overdrive Socket
>Dos 5.0
>Price: $1749Cdn.

If it's a 486DX, what does it have an OverDrive Socket?

>Monitor is NOT included.  No mention of what video comes with the system.
>I sincerely hope that C= Canada's A4000 pricing will be similiar. :)

That price isn't too bad, I guess... although you could still save a bit
on Honest Eddie's Generic Soldered Together on the Boat on the Way Over
From the Far East clone...

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From: cshort@nmsu.edu (Spmg*d, Lord of Potted Meat Product)
Subject: Re: REAL FALCON 030 SPECS
Organization: Computing Research Lab
	<etxansk.717783186@garbod20> <u894776.717808655@bruny>
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 04:14:46 GMT

>>>>> On Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:17:35 GMT, u894776@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (James McCoull) said:



>> Finally!  Someone on this group who isnt saying that having a well designed
>> OS is good enough - you need a usable OS as well.

>> Lets face it - some people bought STs merely because lots of software
>> ran better on an ST than an Amiga.  Better - as in faster and more usable.
>> Compare a minimum configuration A500, versus an ST or Archimedes, or even
>> an old 8 bit machine like the BBC Microcomputer.  Which machine is the least
>> usable 

atari?

- which machine has the slowest [perceived] disk accesses,

commodore 64

>> which machine has the most awkward and ugly GUI?

that would have to be atari

>> 	Its a pity the machine with the best hardware comes out worst eh?

i don't see it that way at all.

c.
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From: griffin@eecae.ee.msu.edu (Danny Griffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A growing dislike for Amiga
Date: 6 Oct 92 05:21:47 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:

>And that reason would be if my SO preferred to spend more time with the Amiga
>than with me. :>

Hey, that's (married) life.  Get used to it.  :)
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From: ludde@cyklop.nada.kth.se (Erik Lundevall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: AGA hidden registers - C= is giving me an attitude
Keywords: The worse part is I have the cash for the A4000
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:44:03 GMT
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden

In article <1992Oct1.061826.4148@clipper.ingr.com> kontos@clipper.ingr.com (Thorne Kontos) writes:

>Then screw over anyone who doesn't want to do things C='s
>new way. I hope some happy hardware hacker posts the AGA hidden
>registers to every net he can find. This would definitely serve
>Commodore a bit of their own medicine...

There is always a reason behind such a decision, which is quite obvious
if you think about it. Any sane Amiga programmer will avoid jumping directly
to locations in the ROM, because these will change with new ROM revisions.
Thus, Commodore does not document where in the ROM the different functions are.

If the registers for the AGA chips are not documented, then it is quite
obvious that they probably will be changed later. Those who will be sorry
are those who relies on non-official documentation of the chips. 
(And those who use their programs)
And don't forget RTG.

Before complaining about this, why not check out what you can do with
gfx functions in AmigaOS 3.0?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000 & HYPE! -Reply to Jerry Shekkel
From: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:23:14 -0600
Reply-To: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
 <jbickers.0ebi@templar.actrix.gen.nz> <1992Sep01.173716.2083@microsoft.com>  
 <al158305.716783302@academ01> <1992Sep18.145515.9548@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>  
 <wl-zq3a@rpi.edu> <10667547.227.717651804@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au>,<1992Sep28.182632.9432@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

In article <1992Sep28.182632.9432@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>
>The SoundBlaster, as well as the newer sound cards, have digital channels
>as well as FM channels.  Yes, they can play your exalted MODs just fine.
>
Well, I HAVE heard MODs on a Soundblaster on a 486DX/33 and it was quite
pathetic...it couldn't even display the waveforms w/o distorting the music.
Even when it was doing NO displaying the music still had a very static-like
quality compared to the same mod on my amiga.  NOW on the other hand I heard
the same MODs on another friends 386 w/ a Pro-Audio Spectrum 16 board and
this sounded EXACTLY like the mods do on my amiga.....

The reason for this I believe is that the soundblaster can not do the
required sampling rate required for sampled instruments where as the 
PAS16 can....


Jim Martin
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From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: HAM-8 only 256,000 colors?
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:27:18 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <1992Sep28.131102.29608@hsr.no>, david_s@hsr.no (David Andreas Sjoeen) writes:
> Why does C= say that HAM-8 has 256,000 colors?

Same question as I have: This number is far too low!
(But we had this already really few days ago. Ok, again then)

> B u t :  This doesn't work on HAM-8: You have 6 bits of color info, i.e.
> (2^6)^3 = 262,144 (not 256,000!) colors. But you also have a palette of
> 16.8 million colors and 64 base colors. That means that you theoretically,
> in a large enough picture, could have 262,144*64 = 16.8 million colors at
> once!   

Correct. Though a bit more difficultly computed than necessary, but ok.
Put it the other way: You can have the *full* 24-bit palette! So as long
as you have enough pixels on your screen, you can give nearly every one
its own colour! Only limitation are the line starts, where you *have* to
begin with one of the 64 base colours, and you normally have more than
64 rows. Ok, so let's consider PAL 1280x512 interlace, which gives us
640 K pixels, so "more than 600,000 different colours". If you even use
overscan, you may be able to reach the next hundred...

What you must provide is a sufficient set of those 64 base colours.
As you can Modify only the upper 6 bits, you have to choose those base
colours in a way that they cover the full space of possible combinations
of the lower 2 bits. But as 4x4x4=64, this is exactly possible!

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From: Hans_Bergengren@p1.thulos.bbs.bad.se (Hans Bergengren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: To all Amigans!!! And NATO !!!
Date: 3 Oct 92 18:57:58 GMT
Reply-To: Hans_Bergengren@p1.thulos.bbs.bad.se (Hans Bergengren)
Organization: THULOS!, STROMSTAD, SWEDEN
OD-Comment-To: Jorn_Gunnar_Halonen


 JG> But the Swedes was the worst, a bunch of neutral f*cking cowards !!!

HEY! I heard that! You seem to have a real attitude problem if you meant that.
We of the younger generations can't be blamed of what the older generation did
(or rather: DIDN'T do) in WWII, so just *Shut Up*, before I become real
angry... All "Swedes" (Hm!) didn't agree with the government during the war,
but that's irrelevant in this newsgroup.

 JG> -Jorn (served in Norwegian Infantry in 1991 - 1992 ;)

Nice for you. What did you learn there, apart from a hatred toward us poor
"Swedes"? :)


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From: "robert buonincontro" <robert.buonincontro@canrem.com>
Subject: palettes and stuff (w
Reply-To: "robert buonincontro" <robert.buonincontro@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 4 Oct 92 19:26:29 EST


MN>   Who cares about video, really?  Video is a very tiny market compared to
MN>others, such as business and desktop publishing.  I am willing to grant that
MN>the Amiga is still the best machine by far for video, but that isn't much of
MN>a complement.  For the Amiga, video is far more of a rut than a market.

 Actually video is getting more and more popular everyday. This is a video 
world and many businesses are looking at ways of taking advantage of it. 
Although, we could a better spreadsheat. The best I've used so far is 
Professional Calc from Gold Disk. This program has a lot of potential 
considering it is only on version 1. Wish Commodore would convince 
Micro-Soft to port Excel over to the Amiga. 

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From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: AmigaDOS differences-
Date: 25 Sep 92 08:47:10 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <haley.717311903@unixg.ubc.ca> haley@unixg.ubc.ca (Ross MacGregor) writes:
>
>Speaking of breaking rules, why hasn't anyone brought up the fact that
>Commodores '040 card does not fit in the A3000!? 

As I heard it they put the blame on Motorola for this: The card would have
fit into the A3000, if the 040 would have the specified power consumption.
But finally it needs much more power than announced and much bigger cooling 
facilities and these are the ones that cause mechanical problems with the 
A3000.

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From: mjl@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Maurice J. LeBrun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: CBM Discusses Future Amigas
Date: 2 Oct 92 05:18:23 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <KENTD.92Sep26101730@zappa.FtCollins.NCR.com> kentd@FtCollins.NCR.com (Kent Dalton) writes:
>That's funny my Sparc 2's GUI is faster and more responsive than my 25MHz
>A3000's. But then again a I use the 2.04 WB on a 710x460 screen @3 bit
>planes on the amiga. I'm really getting tired of people comparing Apples
>and oranges and then somehow using that as evidence the orange is
>better. Especially with regards to how fast the Amiga's GUI is.

Yah, definitely.  Coincidentally, just yesterday I tried running workbench
at 4 bit planes -- I had been meaning to try out 'tapete' to place a
picture on my 710x470 workbench screen (on the A3000), but didn't have
anything decent under 4 bit planes.  The result, as far as speed goes, was
miserable (although the background looked nice :).  I was a bit surprised
at just how dog slow it was, but guess I shouldn't have been. 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: rhealey@kas.helios.mn.org (Rob Healey)
Subject: Re: A4000
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:57:11 GMT
Organization: Rob's home system, Hopkins, MN

In article <1992Sep26.000155.23790@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de> mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst) writes:
=In <1992Sep25.031826.7325@kas.helios.mn.org> rhealey@kas.helios.mn.org (Rob Healey) writes:
=>	   on the high end system was somewhat less than intelligent. Even with
=>	   a Zorro III SCSI card you now have your high end server disk
=>	   subsystem competing for bus cycles with ethernet, video, memory
	   		           ^^^^^^^^^^ This is the important part.
=>	   and communications lines. B^(.
=
=Ahem.. would it be different otherwise ? It may be popular believe that
=motherboard devices give you a feature without any cost but a SCSI controller
=on the motherboard will compete for cycles the same as the Zorro-III board.
=
	Note that I said BUS cycles, not CPU cycles.

		-Rob
From: Hans_Bergengren@p1.thulos.bbs.bad.se (Hans Bergengren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: TO TONY POOLE (Should Atari Discussions Be Held Here?)
Date: 3 Oct 92 17:35:53 GMT
Reply-To: Hans_Bergengren@p1.thulos.bbs.bad.se (Hans Bergengren)
Organization: THULOS!, STROMSTAD, SWEDEN
OD-Comment-To: Thomas_Hill


 < Lllots of stuff deleted >

 TH>  I am an Amiga advocate, yet I so no reason why Atari users who wish to
 TH> discuss the Atari Falcon should not be allowed to post clean, civil
 TH>  messages here.

You have absolutely right. After all, this newsgroup is for debating and
discussion, right? There won't be much discussion if everybody feels the same
about everything!



 TH> ROSS FOR BOSS! VOTE FOR ROSS PEROT FOR PRESIDENT!
:-D

 Do one have to be rich to be president in your country? :)


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From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Atari BLiTTER
Date: 1 Oct 1992 05:50:45 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

ecarroll@maths.tcd.ie (Eddy Carroll) writes:
: Yes, this would be very nice indeed. A chip I'm programming at the moment

(out of curiosity, which chip?  A TI?)

: Things that I would like to see:

:     o   Trapezoid fill: supply Y0, Y1, X0.fixed, X1.fixed, X0inc.fixed and
: 	X1inc.fixed, and the blitter will interpolate the edges accordingly.

Nope.  Break it down further;  Triangulars.  Build your trapezoid from
nice, fast, hardware triangles.  :)  Anyways, _I_ think it's a better
idea.  ;D

:     o   Block write instruction for the COPPER to load multiple registers
: 	as quickly as possible).

:D  Yup.  A nice, new copper would be great.

:     o	Add hardware clipping for pixel, line and trapezoid output

:)  Like I said, triangles.

Greg

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From: doiron@starpt.UUCP (Glenn Doiron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: AmigaDOS differences-
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:21:09 GMT
Organization: 68K Software Development
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <7hhzy8m@rpi.edu> danaf@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.) writes:
> In article <66674@cup.portal.com>, TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko) writes:
> |> >Now, how about the fan? Still grunge up once a year or so?
> |> >
> |> >BTW: I know this is the wrong area, but is the A2000 fan "standard" equipment?
> |> >I'd assume Commodore didn't have a fan built Just For Them... so I **SHOULD**
> |> >be able to get a replacement at some place like Radio Shack, if I know the
> |> >power requirements and approx. speed...
> |> >
> |> >Riiiight?
> |> 
> |> Riiight. But don't get the Radio Shack fans. They will die every 2 years or
> |> so. Get something with decent bearings that will last at least as long as
> |> the computer. They cost all of $2 more than the radio shack variety.
> 
> Well, that's a tall order. My family keeps CARS for 10 years! And after buying
> USED! I plan to own my A2000 for at least another 5 years, and it's 5 years old
> already. If the fan's the only thing that needs replacing, I'll be overjoyed.

I seem to keep my computers around 3 years before selling them and
upgrading.

Glenn Doiron
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From: stelmack@eggo.tmc.edu (Gregory M. Stelmack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: AmigaDOS differences-
Date: 27 Sep 92 03:45:30 GMT
Organization: University of South Florida, Department of Computer Science and Engineering

In article <1992Sep20.013021.2088@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> spice@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
>there is too little room to allow the airflow needed to cool the chip. If
>CBM had designed the packaging of the A3000 better then dealers wouldnt 
>charge A3000 owners $20 - $30 more than they do A2000 owners to install 
>memory and accelerator boards because the A3000 is so hard to take apart. 

Your dealer is ripping you off. We charge $30, no matter what hardware,
no matter what machine. Taking apart an A3000 isn't that much harder than
removing the drive case / power supply of an A2000, which you have to do
to swap ROMs, or install VXL accelerators.


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From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: A4000 at WOC
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 12:54:47 GMT

In <35381@cbmvax.commodore.com> peter@cbmvax.commodore.com (Peter Cherna) writes:
>Some of the operations you mention have always been pretty high-performance.
>Our graphics engineers, by the way, take a lot of pride in the performance
>boosts they were able to achieve.  The biggest boost is probably in
>ScrollVPort() (I think Chris Green told me it's faster by a factor of 20).

That was needed ! With 2.0 I see hardly a difference in speed
between ScrollVPort and RethinkDisplay().

>that a single call takes only 1/2000 or 1/3000 of a second, leaving
>you the balance of your frame to do your rendering for the next frame.

Yep, current 2.0 ScrollVPort() takes several milliseconds.

Regards,
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From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: REAL FALCON 030 SPECS
Date: 29 Sep 1992 04:58:27 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

u894776@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (James McCoull) writes:
: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:
: 
: >Well, actually, GODS is 32-colors by the Bitmap Brothers, ported TO
: >the ST, not from...

: Please when you say things like "ported TO the ST" try to stick to the facts.
: A little truth goes a long way - ring the author or the publishing company.
: Frankly I don't have time for amiga-liars.

If what you say is true, then I am, or in this case was, misinformed.
But watch who you call a liar--people know I'm touchy on that.  I
don't lie.

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