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From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Twins/Jays   Game-11    9/5/92
Date: 5 Sep 92 21:34:31 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


     
        Twins ...........  3 ; Jays .............  7

Twins' skipper TK, in his book _Season of Dreams_ says that he
likes to avoid the roller coaster ride in baseball, ie., getting
into winning and losing streaks in succession.

This is precisely what the Twins are in danger of walking into
as they dropped their second straight game. After sweeping the
Tigs at Detroit, the Twins are in danger of being swept themselves.

Today, Smiley was coasting for the first 3 innings as he retired
the first 9 batters he faced. But like yesterday, he gave up
another big 4th inning in which he yielded 5 runs after the 
Twins had taken a 2-0 lead. But with the Jay bats blazing, it
is indeed a bad time for the Twins to hit Toronto. Smiley took 
the loss and he is now 14-7. 

The Twins finish off their league engagements with the AL-East
tomorrow after the final game at the Sky-Dome.

S.H
Forever Twins
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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: roy NL
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 18:29:25 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.171328.5157@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:

>>More than Pena did over the same time period. 
>
>Really? Those zero hits, and zero walks must really have boosted the Orioles'
>offense.

Really?  Those outs must have really boosted the Red Sox' offense.
>
>>>Again, if you ain't playing, you ain't contributing.
>
>>Which is better than being a detriment.  
>
>Uh, if the guy behind you is worse than you are, you are helping your team.

Have you ever heard of a guy named Eric Wedge?

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
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From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Subject: Re: The Monthly Cecil Fielder Thread
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:28:21 GMT


The claim to beat all claims!

I have somebody who claims that Fielder is more valuable than Thomas
*this* year.  "I don't want my cleanup hitter walking", he says.  "I
prefer a HR and nine outs to 10 walks", he says.  I guess he's *real*
*impressed* by those extra 18 RBIs that Fielder has (on a clearly
better team).  I guess he doesn't care that Fielder has scored 22
fewer runs (and if you go for RP, Fielder is *11* short overall).  I
guess he doesn't care how many outs Fielder uses for that production.

You can sum up this attitude fairly simply: "The job of the cleanup
hitter is to hit HR, and *nothing* else he does matters."

A quick comparison of the two through 8/31:
Fielder has 55 more outs
Thomas has 50 more BB
Thomas has 27 more 1B
Thomas has 10 more 2B
Thomas has  2 more 3B
Fielder has 7 more HR

Thomas, of course, has been sturdier this year, with 27 more PA in
three more games.  Oh, you want to know about "productive outs"?
Fielder has 128 Ks, Thomas has only 66.  I would not be surprised if
Thomas had more SFs than Fielder this year.  (Last year, Fielder had 4
and Thomas had 2.  Making the SF vs. walk discussion kinda ridiculous.
Thomas isn't getting those SFs when he walks.  But Fielder isn't
getting them when he swings, either.)

Those 7 HR are worth something like 10 runs to the team.  But in those
55 outs (two full games), even the Red Sox would score about 8 runs.
The value of those 7 HR + 55 outs is only about 2 runs.  What is the
value of Thomas' 50 BB, 27 1B, 10 2B, and 2 3B?  Obviously negative,
since this netter I know thinks Fielder has had a better season.

And yes, Fielder probably is hitting better with men on base.  I
betcha Frank Thomas is too.  Thomas is a clutch hitter if I ever
saw one!

Cheers,
-Valentine
-- 
Make outs, not walks!					tedward@cs.cornell.edu
Clemens four Cy Young!
From: bst@wang.com (Bruce Tannenbaum)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: The New Commissioner of Baseball
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:19:20 GMT
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA

aboufadel@scsuc.ctstateu.edu (ABOUFADEL,E) writes:

>With the resignation of Fay Vincent, the owners of Major League Baseball have
>the task of hiring a new commissioner.  If they can wait until the end of
>January, then the following man would be an excellent choice:

>	George Herbert Walker Bush

[stuff deleted]
>And besides, the man will be looking for a new job, anyways.
I can only hope so!

>Bush for Commissioner!

Just think!!!! We can use the phrase "Bush Leagues"! 

-- 
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VoiceCom Systems Inc., San Francisco, CA and Tewksbury, MA.
"I have a cunning plan!"
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From: king@ssvax.gte.com (Larry King)
Subject: Re: Robin Yount
Organization: GTE/SCSD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:33:14 GMT

Here is the list of the 3000+ hit club

Pete Rose		4,256
Ty Cobb			4,191
Hank Aaron		3,771
Stan Musial		3,630
Tris Speaker		3,515
Honus Wagner		3,430
Carl Yastrzemski	3,419
Eddie Collins		3,309
Willie Mays		3,283
Nap Lajoie		3,252
Paul Waner		3,152
Cap Anson		3,081
Rod Carew		3,053
Lou Brock		3,023
Al Kaline		3,007
Roberto Clemente	3,000
Robin Yount		3,000

--
Larry King
GTE Government Systems, Needham, MA    		(617) 455-3384 
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From: jlundy@bilbo.encore.com (Joe "RBI's as a way of life" Lundy)
Subject: Re: Personal Attacks on the Net
Organization: Dodgers Infield Sieve Corp.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:45:15 GMT

In article <BuE1y4.7Dn@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, glb50263@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Gary L. Blickhan) writes:

|> I agree with a lot of this.  Mr. Huckabay has done worse, though.  I
|> remember the time that he changed his name file to my name.
|> In short, he used my name to post annoying articles telling everyone
|> to go to **** ,etc.  This damaged my reputation unfairly.
|> If you've got a problem - I suggest mailing the root@madrone.ucdavis
|> or something like that.  He's the source of a lot of name-calling around
|> this network.

Here we go again!

Just as the interest in this group was tapering of, Gary's back!

I personally don't care too much who the ugliest player in the league is or
care to hear that Fatt Butt (TM) should be the MVP, but now this!!!

I don't think that you have anything to worry about, regarding reputation, Gary.
We're all computer dweebs anyway (or birdwatching dweebs in Rising's case - I
think there is a latin word for that)

How can you say that your reputation was damaged, when Kirsch is going around
calling himself "Lundyphobic?", and everyone insults everyone in good fun, here.
Do I feel offended?  Naaaah.
Geez, not even the memory of Bert Convy is sacred.

I think you take the power (or lack thereof) of this newsgroup too seriously,
and I think Gary H. gets his fair share of net.abuse, too.  In fact, we've all
dished it out, and we all take it for one thing or another.  You have to admit,
though, some of your [perhaps baseless] arguments would promote heated
discussions anywhere (Quizenberry vs. Eckersley - I rest my case.)

The Maynard/Huckaby flame war will go down as a classic.  It's already shown us
what would happen when Noel Coward meets Don Rickles.  (Roger, have a cookie)
If you can't take a little criticism, I suggest you put me, Gary, Kirsch,
Lustig, Nichols, Tate, Lu, Bose (not as in speakers), and JOHN STUART MILL
in your kill file.

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From: rja@redwood26.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
Subject: Re: Juan Gonzales (40+ homers before age 23)
Originator: rja@redwood26
Organization: The 1991 World Champion Minnesota Twins!
Date: 14 Sep 92 10:36:21 CDT


> demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers) writes:

> However, let's take a close look at that list.
> Please note that *EVERYONE* who hit 40+ HRs by age 23 is in 
> the Hall of Fame.  Not just 50% or some other fraction.  ALL of them.

Pretty amazing stat...

> JG isn't a guarantee to go to Cooperstown - there are some flaws 
> in his offensive game - but he's got a good shot at it.

I agree.

<Climbing on my soapbox>

I always cringe at HoF talk about young players.  I remember back when
Ceasar Cedeno, Dave Parker, and Tony Oliva looked like HoF potential.
Then Dave discovers Mr. Coke and wastes a couple of prime years.  Tony
O. blows out his knee.  God knows what happened to Cedeno (the next Willie
Mays).

Then there are other guys like Pete Rose.  When Rose started out he looked
like Chuck Knoblach: A heads up 2nd baseman that could hit ~.300.  Someone
who looked more like Nellie Fox than Ty Cobb.  I thought Rose was washed 
up around 1974, yet he kept on playing and hitting.

<end of soapbox>
-- 
Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
From: G.R.Price@cm.cf.ac.uk (G R Price)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Bo Jackson
Date: 9 Sep 92 08:45:57 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, WALES, UK.
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway


Does Bo still know Baseball ?
Last year I know he had injury problems is this still the case
or is he playing ?
Please mail any info. Also are there any other Baseball players
who dabble in football (or vice versa)

Thanks in advance 
Gwyn
From: jerry@bunker.shel.isc-br.com (Gerald J. Lanza)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Stupid Injuries
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:50:12 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company (Shelton, CT)

In article <14SEP92.15294649@vax.clarku.edu> hhenderson@vax.clarku.edu writes:
>I missed the original post, so I may be repeating some "favorite
>stupid injuries", but here goes:
>
>So far all of these are pitchers.  I wonder if there's any
>significance to that fact?
>

	How about Curt Simmons of the Whiz Kids Phillies who truncated 
	several of his toes while mowing the lawn and effectively ended
	his career somewhat prematurely ?




						jerry
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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Dodgers/Padres Wednesday Night Action
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 06:14:07 GMT

In article <latou2INNm0t@mizar.usc.edu> pcaster@mizar.usc.edu (Dodger) writes:

>Eric Karros was the hitting star for the Dodgers, with a perfect
>night, going 3 for 3 with a walk.  He drove in his 74th run of
>the season.  As I've said before, nobody is even close to Karros
>for rookie of the year honors.  Just look at his numbers, even
>ignoring the fact he plays half his games in a pitchers' park for a 
>last place team.

And worth, if my calculation methods are correct, about as much as Mark
McLemore?

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent)
Subject: Re: roy NL
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 05:51:13 GMT

In <1992Sep11.150649.1953@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.171411.18718@leland.Stanford.EDU> claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>>In <1992Sep8.151118.1557@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:

>>>Why do you have this fascination with part-timers? It is a FACT that neither
>>>Alou nor Sanders have nearly as much playing time as Karros. It is also a 
>>>FACT that Karros plays in a much more difficult park for hitters:in fact, the
>>>5-year average for SLG and HR increase is higher for Riverfront than for any
>>>other park in the majors(yes, including Wrigley, Tiger Stadium, and Atlanta).

>>Why do you have this fascination with everyday players, even if they are below
>>average?  By your logic, Tony Pena (who played nearly everyday for Boston)
>>would be more valuable than Chris Hoiles, who missed half of the season,
>>despite the fact that Pena is almost the worst offensive catcher you can find
>>in the majors this year, and that Hoiles is the best in the AL?

>Uh, Nelson, we were comparing a couple of platoon players (Alou and Sanders)
>to an everyday player (Karros). I *DID* point out the rather large park effect
>difference, which you have yet to address; Riverfront is one of the BEST 
>hitters' parks, Dodger Stadium one of the worst, in the major leagues. But, 

True, although Riverfront is not the best offensive park overall, just
the best HR/SLG park.  And Olympic is almost as bad as Chavez.

>I will address your point; How many games did Hoiles help his team win when 
>he was on the DL? 

More than Pena did over the same time period. 

>Again, if you ain't playing, you ain't contributing.

Which is better than being a detriment.  

-- 
David M. Nieporent   | Orioles 1992 World Series Champions
niepornt@phoenix.    | Mike Mussina 1992 AL Cy Young Winner
   princeton.edu     | Brady Anderson 1992 AL MVP
Vote Clinton/Gore '92.
From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Personal Attacks on the Net
Date: 11 Sep 92 02:53:46 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853

In article <BuE1y4.7Dn@news.cso.uiuc.edu> glb50263@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Gary L. Blickhan) writes:
>
>In short, he used my name to post annoying articles telling everyone
>to go to **** ,etc.  This damaged my reputation unfairly.

Oh, come on!  By the time that happened, you had no reputation on this
newsgroup left to ruin!  (I thought we had gotten rid of you.  Or were
you just gone for the summer?)

-Valentine
-- 
Make outs, not walks!					tedward@cs.cornell.edu
Clemens four Cy Young!
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From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Lies, Damn Lies, & Statistics (was Re: The Monthly Cecil Fielder Thread
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:34:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.165006.25370@cs.cornell.edu> tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.142854.1195@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep8.203854.28309@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:

>>>Now, nine mediots last year said (and voted) that Cecil Fielder was the
>>>AL's MVP, when he wasn't (1) the MVP of the Tigers, or (2) the MV first
>>>baseman.  And Fielder still complained.

>>I thought you were talking about the "mediots". In any event, Cecil did not
>>win the award, now did he? And you very vocally defended that choice.

>Actually, there are many I respect.  Like the Red Sox radio team.  But
>the Ray Knight crowd seems louder.  Or perhaps stupid comments just
>carry farther than intelligent ones?  (Probably true, actually, when
>you consider how many people hear what Quaylee has to say each day...)

Me? I never listen to Quayle. In any event, so far as Knight is concerned (and
reprters like him), his job is more entertainment (as in, keep 'em watching)
so he doesn't need to be respectable.

Actually, could someone POST the names of the writers for the MVP awards?
Then perhaps we could evaluate them individually, and have a productive (yeah,
I know, runs counter to the charter of rsbb) discussion on those particular
writers, and see if they are reasonable choices for doing the voting.

Anyone have a list handy?

>>YOU, however, remain a reasonable observer under all circumstances.
>
>Of course!  Aren't we all, in our own minds? :-)

Of course. I just can't figure out why everyone ELSE is so unreasonable :-)

Mike
-- 
Disclaimer - I'm only doing what the little voices tell me to do.
From: jimdean@bnr.ca (Jim Dean)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Steve Stone re-aligns Canada
Date: 13 Sep 92 00:48:48 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Ontario

Canada moved one step closer to a unity pact today when Cubs
broadcaster Steve Stone announced that Cards pitcher Rheal Cormier was
from Moncton, British Columbia. Mr. Stone's removal of Moncton from
the eastern, and very bilingual, province of New Brunswick, and
subsequent transplant into the western, and pretty much unilingual,
British Columbia should be a message to us all: We can work it out if
we only try.

Actually, I think Steve was just trying to one-up Harry Caray in
tourism plugs for B.C.  I have yet to listen to a Harry Caray
description of an at-bat by Expo Larry Walker that didn't include the
vital information that Larry is from "Maple Ridge, British Columbia".
All of Maple Ridge was excited to learn from Harry a couple of weeks
ago that Larry "graduated out of Maple Ridge University", something
the good townspeople didn't even know they had.

Sorry, just frustration sneaking through.  I really like the WGN
broadcast, but only during innings 4-5-6 when Thom Brennaman is there.

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From: rising@zoo.toronto.edu (Jim Rising)
Subject: Questions about the draft
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 16:52:24 GMT
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology

Dave mentioned that players signed after they are 19 cannot be
drafted until they have been professionals for 3 years.  Does
this go for guys already in the majors.  Would a guy like
Olerud, say, be exempt if he hadn't completed 3 professional
years (I think he has, in fact, but just barely)?  And isn't
there something about not being able to draft someone under
20...?
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From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Top 10: Why Bush should be the new baseball commissioner
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:20:24 GMT
Distribution: na,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Nntp-Posting-User: f67700241

In article <1992Sep9.120626.13547@hemlock.cray.com>, rja@redwood26.cray.com (Russ Anderson) writes:
> Top 10 Reasons Bush should be the new baseball commissioner
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 10. No Congress to deal with.

Since E.B. Williams died, he'll have no trial lawyers to deal with either.
Good fortune smiles on him.

> 9.  He won't be asked to make any decisions.
> 8.  He can bail out his other son for a change.
> 7.  Someone has to bounce out the first ball of the season.
 
All true....

> 6.  He won't let Willie Horton play in the majors.

A bit too late for that, I think....unless Horton is planning a comeback
with the Tigers, that is.
 
> 5.  He'll need a new job come January.

But why should baseball fans have to wait "4 more months" to get the
benefit of Bush now?

> 4.  Danny needs the connection to a job as batboy.

Naw, he'll be the mascot.  The Phillie Phanatic, most likely.  Or he
could be the guy in the press box who's always messing up the ball-
strike count on the scoreboard.  Yeah, that sounds right.

> 3.  He'll try not to throw up on the Mariners owner.

Is that a promise?  You know how he breaks promises....
 
> 2.  He'll use force, if necessary, to get the Cubs out of the East.

"The Tribune Company is the Third Reich of the National League.  This
act of aggression cannot stand...."

> 1.  The "Draft Clinton" movement is bound to fail.

Clinton?  What round was he drafted in?  Does he throw a 90+ fastball?

> -- 
> Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
> ------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
> EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
-- 
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f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu               Dan: "R-O-L-A-I-D-S-E."

"[George Bush is] the most ruthless white man in the history of the planet."
	-- Richard Ben Cramer, author of _What It Takes_
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From: demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Times on Base: all-time records and Frank Thomas
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:46:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

In article <1992Sep8.154935.16353@menudo.uh.edu> chee1l5@jetson.uh.edu (Sam Lane) writes:
>In article <5580@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, genetic+@pitt.edu (Dr. Dave) writes:
 
>> Here are, as best I can find them, the all-time records for career times
>> reaching base (H+BB+HBP), and times reaching base per game (among players
>> with at least 3000 times reaching base).
 

>If you include HBP, then why don't you include reaching on errors and reaching on a fielder's
>choice?  They include the same amount of skill (none).

I tend to think that reaching on errors should be included as
time on base, but the information is hard to get.  However, reaching
by FC is substantially different from the others in nature - it
results in an out.  By "times reaching base", I think Dr. Dave is
looking at "PA which don't result in an out".

btw, if HBP includes no skill, how come Ron Hunt/Don Baylor
always led in the category?  


-- 
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From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Subject: Ugliest loss ever?
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 03:55:13 GMT


Okay, *this* one rivals game 6 of the '86 WS!

Scenario:

1 out, bases empty: Blankenship hits a ball to third base.  Boggs,
who was playing on the line, can't reach it.

1 out, runner on first: Sierra gets behind in the count and hits a
possible DP ball to Boggs.  Reed wimps out on the pivot, never making
the throw.  (He had time to either throw or save himself.  Guess which
he chose?  And he thinks he is being *under*-paid?  If he wants fan
support, this is *not* the way to go about it.)

2 out, runner on first: Dave Henderson hits it back up the middle.
Reed has a chance at making the play, but misses it (of course).
Sierra motors around to third.  Zupcic comes up with the ball, and
lobs it over Reed's head.  Pena is forced to move over to pick up the
throw, and Sierra strolls home to an empty plate.

If I were Butch, I would be *so* tempted to bench Reed for the
remainder of the season.  I simply don't believe he's trying any more.
He's got plenty of talent, but doesn't seem to want to use it for the
Red Sox.  (Why couldn't Lou Gorman have kept him happy?  Would it have
cost *that* much?)

As for Zupcic?  He made a little-league error!  What?  Does he think
he's a big slugger?  He can't expect to get away with defensive
mistakes of that magnitude unless he can hit.  He *did* make a nice
catch on a Sierra line drive earlier in the game.  But you have to
make the easy plays too!

(No, I am *not* having a good year.  Though Clemens pitches tomorrow
which might cheer me up.  Of course, two of his six blown leads have
come against the Rangers...)

-Valentine
-- 
Make outs, not walks!					tedward@cs.cornell.edu
Clemens four Cy Young!