HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bittle@niktow.canisius.edu (Jason Bittle)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: JGH computer predictions: a curious algorithm
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:07:28 GMT
Organization: Canisius College, Buffalo NY. 14208


What is more curious about Mr Heim's algorithm, is that the top 6 teams are
NFC teams?

Is Heim an anagram for Madden?  :-)


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Date: Thursday, 28 Jan 1993 11:41:59 CET
From: RENE ZANDBERGEN <RZANDBER@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Wanted/Predictions


Michael D. Goettsche writes:
>Just out of curiousity, I'm wondering what all of you think the score
>regarding Super Bowl XXVII will be.  I'm putting together a little poll
>to see what the general consensus is.  Please no opinions -- just a
>score.  Thanks.
>
Dallas  6
Buffalo 3

(why not?)

Rene Zandbergen

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From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: Hmmm...
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 17:44:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
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In article <1993Jan22.150332.15952@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:
>In article <C19EsL.6vJ@news.cso.uiuc.edu> glb50263@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Gary L. Blickhan) writes:
>>Is that what this is about?  Posting 30 some articles a week so you
>>won't be seen as a quitter?  The longer you keep this up, the more
>>annoyed everyone else gets.  
>Oh, it takes two to tango.  So only my keeping this up annoys you? Meeks'
>keeping this up doesn't?

Yes, but it is probably someone who has seen you get into a couple of these
with a variety of people.  There is, like I said before, a common thread...
EdLor...  So, it makes sense that people get annoyed with you first and 
foremost.  Don't worry, I am sure people are annoyed that I continue as well,
but you make it such a habit you set yourself up for it...
>
>>Why don't you quit while you are still only moderately behind? 
>Moderately behind in what? I don't even see Meeks has anything besides
>Gary to support his opinion.  Why don't you post some message to confirm 
>this point?

But you can't make a blind man see Ed...

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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:30:37 -0500 
From: "Michael D. Goettsche" <mg5c+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: dallas over bills
	<1993Jan23.171715.17051@PacBell.COM>

>In article <1993Jan23.062233.39340@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>
kjs5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (K
>RISTIAN JOHN SCHAFER) writes:
>>By winning the NFC East and beating the 49'ers the Cowboys have firmly
>>established themselves as the class of the NFC.  Emmit Smith was the leauges
>>leading rusher, Aikman was the NFC's second highest rated quarterback, and
>>Irvin is clearly one of the top receivers in football.  And don't forget
>>Dallas's #1 rated defense which is playing for pride after being snubbed by
>>the league by not sending any Cowboy defenders to the Pro Bowl.  The Cowboys
>>are riding a wave of momentum right to a Super Bowl victory.
>>The Bills have not been nearly as consistent as the Cowboys this year.
>>Quality teams don't have to make 32 point comebacks because they don't find
>>themselves in such a mess.
>
>> Cowboys: 34
>>Bills: 13
>
> -A dedicated Cowboy fan.
 
>I agree with everything you stated EXCEPT your last statment:
 
>
"Quality teams don't have to make 32 point comebacks because they don't find
 >themselves in such a mess."
 
I> hope you really didn't mean what you said. The truth is, "GREAT teams
>will make 32 point comebacks, period." Now, everyone knows that I am
>NOT a Bills supporter or a Kelly supporter, but you are fringing
>on silliness to imply that "Quality teams don't have to make 32 point
>comebacks, etc." A "comeback" is a sign of a great team, whether it
>be last minute TD to win a game, or a 32 point comeback. The 32 point
>comeback does make for a better story and in this particular game, 
>it made HISTORY! I am not saying that the Bills are GREAT enough to win 
>it all or any team that makes comebacks is likewise GREAT, but it takes 
>composure and courage to overcome just deficits.
 
>I would not discount the Bills so easily, but my money is on the Cowboys
>to win.
 
-A Dedicated Niners fan.
 
******* John P. Gloria ****** jpglori@sysengr.PacBell.COM *******

Now wait a second Mr. Gloria. Don't you understand what the poor chap is
saying?  He is saying that GREAT teams do not find themselves down many
points, LET ALONE 32!!!!!  And he is absolutely correct.  If Buffalo
were truly a great team, they would not have allowed themselves to get
down to the Oilers by more than 10.  While it was indeed remarkable that
the Bills overcame this deficit, it does not mean that they were a GREAT
team, just a team that happened to keep their heads on in a very
uncommfortable position.  It simmply means that the Bills have enough
weapons (and Luck) to overcome such a large deficit.  If they could play
this way consistantly then you could consider themm a truly great team.
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From: ajj@zycor.lgc.com (Andrew Jackson)
Subject: Re: Famous Jerseys, result 0-19
Organization: Landmark/Zycor   Austin, Texas
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:39:47 GMT

In article <1k3uv5INNl46@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> Michael Roman <mrr1@cornell.edu> writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.170915.4075@gserv1.dl.ac.uk> J.A. Needham,
>J.A.Needham@daresbury.ac.uk writes:
>>Is there anybody out there willing to admit to be a Seahawks fan??  I
>>would like some answers to the following quessies if there are:
>
>I'll admit to being something even stranger than that. I am a fan of the
>Seahawks and
>the Giants. If the Giants are playing the Seahawks, I'll root for the
>team that needs
>the win more.
>
>Alas, I know very little about the Seahawks, since the East Coast
>newspapers don't talk
>the West Coast teams a whole lot, unless they're contenders. Even then,
>all you hear
>about are the backs and receivers...
>
>Mike Roman
>mrr1@cornell.edu

Yes, I'm a Seahawks fan. There is a lot of talk of drafting Drew Bledsoe,
standout QB from Washington State. I believe he is a native of western
Washington state. Seattle will probably be able to get him because of
the talk that Parcells at New England will draft (Shane?) Jones, the
outstanding LB from Floria State, and sign Lawrence Taylor to tutor him
and build a defense around this (scary thought). Remember that Seattle
has the #2 pick after New England.

The 'Hawks have a very decent defense (perhaps add a little more to the
secondary) and have competent running backs. The offensive line situation
was abysmal due to injuries - anyone know how good these guys might be
if they stay healty? They can use a deep threat at WR. Personally, I
would try for a top offensive lineman.

Cheers,

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From: johndoe@samadams.inmet (johndoe)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: New Clock rule
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:08:02 GMT
Reply-To: johndoe@inmet.com (Bus error - core dumped)
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.

In article <1993Jan25.224758.27681@newsgate.sps.mot.com> saari@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Jonathan Saari) writes:

   In article 147293@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV, mcgowan@physics.llnl.gov (Jay D McGowan) writes:
   > Could somebody give me the exact details about the new (3 years old)
   > clock rule that was mentioned.   I have a bet about this.  Doesn't
   > the clock keep running on plays that go out of bounds except when
   > the game clock is inside 5 minutes?
   > 
   > Thanks,
   > 
   > Jay D. McGowan L-298		jdm@llnl.gov
   > "How you handle pressure determines how you handle life"
   > LLNL
   > 7000 East Ave.
   > Livermore, CA 94550
   > (510) 423-9860
   > 

   Except for the last 5 minutes of each half, when the ball goes out of
   bounds, the clock is stopped until it is spotted. The referee then
   signals and the clock is started. No longer do they wait until the ball
   is snapped.

i thought this was the last two minutes of the first half and last five
minutes of the second half.
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From: j_manning@csc32.enet.dec.com (John Manning)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Superbowl Supertrivia
Date: 21 Jan 93 03:06:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1993Jan20.164806.19204@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, mk0e@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MAHEENDRA BABURAO KASMALKAR) writes...
>QBs are 0-7 on SBs. I know that Elway is 0-3, Jim Kelly 0-2 and Marino 0-1.
>But that makes it only 0-6. Who got the 7th loss?

Number 7 would be Tony(I think) Eason who was QB for New England when 
they lost to the Bears.


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From: rhoads@blaze.rutgers.edu (Glenn Rhoads)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Championship streaks trivia questions
Date: 23 Jan 93 19:58:49 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Cc: rhoads

In article <C19wHE.Cnt@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn) writes:
> 
> > 1.  What team went to six consecutive NFL championships?
> 
>       Cleveland
> 
> > 2.  What team went to five NFL championships in six years only to lose
> >     all of them?
> 
>       NY Giants
>  
> > 3.  What team went to ten NFL/NFC championships in thirteen years?
> 
>       Dallas
> > 
> > 4.  What team went to nine AFL/AFC championships in eleven years?
> 
>       Oakland

You got them all!  Now I don't have to post the answers :-)
Were the questions were too easy?

Just for the sake of completeness, the following are the years
involved.

1.  '50 -- '55

2.  '58, '59, '61, '62, '63

3.  '70 -- '73, '75, '77, '78, '80, '81, '82

4.  '67 -- '70, '73 -- '77

-- Glenn Rhoads
From: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM (George W. Pogue (Bill ))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Trivia Answer #3
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 14:12:32 EST
Reply-To: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM
Organization: Deep In The Heart Of The South!


  Question: Do you know the first college to win three consecutive          
            Orange Bowls?

  Answer: Nebraska

  bill

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From: pedersen@seas.smu.edu (Ted Pedersen)
Subject: Dallas 38 Buffalo 10
Organization: SMU - School of Engineering & Applied Science - Dallas
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:29:17 GMT

Random thoughts:

Buffalo will score first (3) and last (7).

Dallas will be up by 17 at the half (21 - 3).

Dallas will run run run (or Troy will get sacked sacked sacked). 

Emmitt Smith will be the MVP.

Who cares, right? I just want to get this posted so that I can claim
prophetic powers if I'm close (or right). If not, well who cares,
right? 

Enjoy the game,
Ted
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From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: Hmmm...
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 16:30:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <1993Jan21.212531.29160@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.181807.58782@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>>>>No thanx.. I have a life... 
>>>From you flame war habit, I doubt it ...
>>Well, you are the one who claims to do this solely for the flame war
>>"I am only into flame wars..." as you said once...
>But if I can't be into flame war without an opposition. So you are into flame
>war too, that's why I doubt you have a life, especially when you sent me
>message at 3 a.m. in the morning.

The difference is you claim to get "only into flame wars".  Your sole intent
on the net it to do just that.  I am different in that I attempt to do a lot
of useful things on the net and don't always get into flame wars.  
And, as I have explained to you before, our system is a hop off of an internet
site.  Therefore, the times you see are seldom reliable.  I can assure you that
I am not logged in a 3 a.m. (ever realize that saying 3 a.m. in the morning is
kinda redundant, redundant)

>Yes, I listed all your wimp outs in our wars in 
><1992Dec21.000838.2502@cbnews.cb.att.com>, thread "the Dynasty Continues ...". 
>Check it out.

Why don't you send me a copy.  As my daughter was in the process of being
born that night (born the next morning), I didn't see it.  And, as I was then
not around for a week or so, it had already expired...

>No, I think you miss my abuse, and come to a new group (r.s.f.p) just to 
>relive the memories.

Funny, I have been on this group for.. oh..  9, maybe 10 years now... 
Not exactly a new group for me.  
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From: flanery@cs.utk.edu (Ray Flanery)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Wanted/Predictions
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:12:33 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Tennessee, Knoxville
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>>Just out of curiousity, I'm wondering what all of you think the score
>>regarding Super Bowl XXVII will be.  I'm putting together a little poll
>>to see what the general consensus is.  Please no opinions -- just a
>>score.  Thanks.

Buffalo 42
Dallas   0

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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Dallas/Buffalo
Date: 26 Jan 1993 19:11:14 GMT
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
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In <1993Jan26.171736.16843@pixel.kodak.com> fbrown@ssd.kodak.com writes:

> In article <1k3mloINNpmr@menudo.uh.edu> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:

  [Buffalo a team of destiny]
    
> >  I know what you meant.  I was just pointing out we have evidence to the
> >contrary.  Yes, they *can* lose the SB.  They are not a team of "destiny".
> >They are a good team with a good shot at winning.
> >
> If they win the SB people will say they were a team of destiny because
> they did what no other pro team had ever done. Come back from 32 pts down.
> They are focused on the job ahead. Nothing except winning will satify them
> and I'm pretty sure they are going to do it. We'll see on Sunday.

  Well, I agree and disagree.  Yes, if they win folks can say "destiny."  Not
before.  I think it's a load of horse puckey myself.  I'm also sure nothing but
winning will satisfy them, the only alternative being losing, which most
folks would agree is pretty UN-satisfying.

> >> >back indicative of guts and tenacity.  But the fact the Oiler's played
> >> >like pithed frogs no doubt played a part...
> >
> >  At least you don't disagree with this! :-)
> >
> Dont forget the Bills defense had something to do with it. Also Houston
> did drive down for the tying field goal. They were trying to play it safe
> and not put the ball in a place where it could be intercepted and have the
> Bills ice the game.

  Hey, I *did* say a PART of the reason, not the whole reason!  The Bills
deserve kudos, the Oilers criticism.


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
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From: picasso@acs.nntp-read.bu.edu (David Ondzes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Pats make deal with Parcells
Date: 21 Jan 93 12:03:47 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: Boston University Information Technology Boston, MA USA


I just heard on a Boston radio station, that Parcells has agreed to
be the Pats coach. I do not know any of the detail though. Could someone
please email the details, I do not think I will have another chance to
read news today.

Thanks
David
From: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM (George W. Pogue (Bill ))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Trivia Answer #4
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 14:14:04 EST
Reply-To: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM
Organization: Deep In The Heart Of The South!


  Question: What was the first pro football team to have emblems on their          
            helmets?
                    
  Answer: The Los Angeles Rams. Halfback Fred Gehrke, an art major in 
          college, painted horns on their helmets in 1948.

  bill

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From: gtd597a@prism.gatech.EDU (Michael D. Friedman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Wanted/Predictions
Date: 26 Jan 93 04:21:45 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <ofN7zu_00WBL48gkpb@andrew.cmu.edu> mg5c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael D. Goettsche) writes:
>Just out of curiousity, I'm wondering what all of you think the score
>regarding Super Bowl XXVII will be.  I'm putting together a little poll
>to see what the general consensus is.  Please no opinions -- just a
>score.  Thanks.

Buffalo 24
Dallas 20



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From: rscott@ra.csc.ti.com (Roderick Scott)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: INFO ON SUPER BOWL TIME
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:17:34 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments

In article <vish-260193121625@vish.cc.nd.edu> vish@nd.edu (Vishwamber Yelsangikar) writes:
>What time is the Super Bowl Kickoff??  
>
>Thanks...
>
>Vishwamber Yelsangikar
>Network Engineer.
>Notre Dame.
>
>Go Bills.......

Kickoff Is Schedule For 6:18 Eastern Standard Time..
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From: derich@netcom.com (Scott A. Steinbrink)
Subject: Jerseys - Dark/White? Hoiw?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:29:12 GMT

I know in basketball and baseball - home games, they wear
light/white jerseys and road games they wear dark jerseys.

But in football this is not the case. I've seen Redskins always
selexcting white jerseys and other teams dark.

SHouldn't it be balanced? How do they choose dark/light jerseys?

- Scotty

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From: andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM (Andy Knipp SE Andersen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Giants, Cards, Broncos, Chargers, & Rams GMs needed
Date: 21 Jan 1993 21:07:17 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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For the mock draft,  I know I have seen a lot of people post about
the Giants (& others).  Now is your chance.  We will even let you 
fire the coach :-)   Or hire another one.  


Ditka needs a job

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From: sajja@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Rajeev  Sajja)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: RIGGIE WHITE close to signing with Washing
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:04:54 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1jpb91INN75m@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> bih@mowgli.East.Sun.COM writes:
>In article 5400@nlm.nih.gov, news@nlm.nih.gov () writes:
>>
>How does the "Franchise player" clause in the new NFL labor agreement
>come into play here? I can't imagine Philly letting Reggie White go, 
>especially to another NFC East team. 

When "Reggie White" filed his case with judge doty, he made sure that he 
will be a total free-agent. The eagles cannot make Reggie White their
Franchise Player. The only way they can keep him here is to pay him the money.
Imagine he going against antone davis, randall will see the turf all day!!

-Rajeev
GO EAGLES in 1993
Randall for Cortez and #1 draft pick!!