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From: kazi@brahms.udel.edu (Zunaid Kazi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: He should have never done it.. II
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:02:29 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

<MKAZIZ writes:>

> Clarification:

> The article entitled "He shouldn't have done it" is not written by me for
> two reasons:

> 2)   The article is written in 17th century english.  Amar pet-e bombing
>      korleo erokom english ber hobe na.

> So, the question is: who wrote the article?

> Here are the possible answers:
>	[choose the best one]

>	a)  William Shakespeare
>	b)  Tagore (translated by Budhdhadev Bose (sp?))
>	c)  Paula Abdul
>	d)  Mr.  Zunaid  Kazi.

You have a nimble wit; methinks 'twas made of Atlanta's heels. [1]

Courage mounteth with ocassion. I wasted time, and now time doth
waste me [2]. How doth thou errant knave compare me to that insignificant
bard from Albion? I wish you all the joy of the worm. [3] :-)

Oh, a jest's prosperity lies in the ear of him that hears it, never in
the tongue of him that makes it. [4]

[1] As You Like It : III.ii. 294
[2] Richard II: V.i 49 
[3] Antonio and Cleoptra : V.ii. 260
[4] Love's Labour Lost :V.i. 869

<And Again>
> ...
> But alas!  It wasn't his day.  It wasn't what he expected.  He rushed out
> of the computer room as if his life was under threat.  He ran upstairs.  Soon
> he was found helplessly wondering through about 50 huge looking lexicons,
> old and new, Brithish and American, 17th century and 20th century.

> He should have never done it...

>

> He should have never read the article "He should have never done it...II",
> posted by Mr. Zunaid Kazi.

My apologies. I am aware that by eschewing obfuscatory verbosity of
locutional rendering, the circumscriptional appelationals are excised.

>KHALED AZIZ      mkaziz@vela.acs.oakland.edu   mkaziz@argo.acs.oakland.edu  

-- ZUNAID KAZI
   kazi@cis.udel.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: zeeshan@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Zeeshan Hasan)
Subject: Re: How about an EEC type arrangement in our subcontinent? (wasRe: News)
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:49:51 GMT
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In article <samaddar.718571049@dumbo> samaddar@siemens.com (Sumitro Samaddar) writes:
 >bhattach@quip.eecs.umich.edu (sayan bhattacharyya) writes:
 >
 >>powerful than the other two countries. So we will probably end 
 >>up with a scenario in which India misuses its disproportionately
 >>large economic strength to bully the other members of the community
 >>into submission.
 >
 >I don't get this. Exactly how would India do this? What provision in this
 >new "EEC-type arrangement" would be different from the existing situation
 >that would suddenly allow India to bully others into submission. Has any
 >state of India been bullied into economic submission?

	Bullying may simply mean that the economic agenda of one
region be prioritized at the expense of others, supposedly for the
sake of an overall developement.  The easiest way for this to happen
is through preferential trade agreements.  For example, it may be that
some states in India are capable of producing garments manufacturing
equipment, but at higher cost than Japan, for a given quality.  If
preferential trade agreements regarding tariffs/duties are set up,
then they may result in Bangladeshi factories importing machinery from
India, even though the actual cost is higher.  This would amount to
indirect exploitation of the Bangladeshi garments industry for the
developement of the Indian machinery industry.
	And I'm positive that this sort of thing has happened in
India, given it's history of import barriers.

farewell--
--
Zeeshan Hasan 
zeeshan@occs.cs.oberlin.edu or skh7063@oberlin.bitnet
OCMR Box 1529, Oberlin College, Oberlin, Ohio 44074. Phone:(216)775-6447
	"I love mankind... it's people I can't stand!" - Linus Van Pelt    




Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: sahmed@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Saif Ahmed)
Subject: Re: boring
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 08:50:48 GMT
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In article <1992Oct6.153849.1829@wam.umd.edu> tanmon@next02pg2.wam.umd.edu (Tanveer Chowdhurm) writes:

   Why is SCB so boring..........
		   Tanveer


Because of articles like this.
Saif
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From: raquib_hassan@cbis.ece.drexel.edu (Raquib Hassan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: BUET
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:24:12 GMT
Organization: Drexel University
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Could anyone please tell me when and why Dr. M. H. Khan lost his job as VC
and who are the Dean and Head of Electrical Engineering Department ?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: raquib_hassan@cbis.ece.drexel.edu (Raquib Hassan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: News
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:54:47 GMT
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Organization: Drexel University
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From: Boo!, misra@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Subject: Re: News
In article  Boo!, misra@matt.ksu.ksu.edu writes:

>sahmed@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Saif Ahmed) writes:
>
>>The Indian government claim they are Bangladeshi citizens. Most of
>>them were originally from Bangladesh but have lived in India for over
>>30 years or so and most of them have Indian ration cards and ids. Some
>
>	what does living in india for 30yrs have to do with it? I could 
>	evade the INS and live here for 30 years but if i get caught
>	they will send me back. If some of them are not citizens of Bd
>	then that must be rectified, but someone is a citizen then 
>	they must return regardless of how long they have lived in india.

 There was no Bangladesh before 1971. So they are Pakistani citizen. Why
Bd
 would be responsible for them? They should be returned to Pakistan.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: zrkhan@athena.mit.edu (Zeeshan R Khan)
Subject: News
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:34:48 GMT



	DHAKA, Bangladesh (UPI) -- A massive explosion at an illicit bomb
factory that killed four people and left one critically injured appeared
to be connected with a labor dispute at a nearby jute mill, police said
Tuesday.
	The huge explosion that blew off the roof of the house used to
manufacture the crude explosive devices apparently was triggered by the
accidental detonation of a bomb under construction, leading to a chain
reaction.
	Police said about 200 additional bombs and 450 pounds of explosives
were involved in the explosion Monday in the industrial township of
Narayanganj, about nine miles east of Dhaka.
	They said five men were in the house at the time of the blast. Two
were killed instantly, two others died after being rushed to hospitals
and a fifth man was in criticl condition.
	Police said they suspected the bomb makers belonged to the pro-
government jute workers union.
	Jute products and raw jute are the largest export earner for
Bangladesh, a nation of 110 million. Jute accounted for more than $400
million of Bangladesh's $2.1 billion in foreign exchange earned in
fiscal year 1991-92.




Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: anwar@bnr.ca (Shams Anwar)
Subject: Pushback. West Bengal's view?
Organization: BNR
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:05:25 GMT


After a meeting, the ruling party of West Bengal criticized the way 132 Bangla
speaking people  were pushed back at Horidaspur Border. They stated that 
considering the link between Bangladesh and West Bengal in respect of language,
culture & religion, this problem has to be considered from historical 
perspectives.  Jouti Basu, chief minister of West Bengal, advised the central 
government to resolve this issue through bilateral discussions. Following 
oppositions from senior congress leaders and non co-operation from some state 
governments, Indian government is considering the postponement of this project 
and the associated propaganda. The chief ministers in a recent meeting urged 
for a plan which is acceptable to everyone.

Indian Express in its Sept. 20 issue had given heart touching accounts of
the suffering of the captives on their way from New Delhi to Calcutta. They
reported that the whole thing was implemented in an inhuman way and with no
regard to any rule. "Ananda Bazar Patrika" also made similar comments. It
was reported that all belongings of the captives, except for what they were
wearing, were burnt and their heads were shaven. 

Some human rights organizations in calcutta criticized the central government's
crack down on Bangla speaking people. They organized a protest rally in 
Calcutta on Sept 3rd and filed a suit for human rights violations in
Calcutta high court against BSF. Another public meeting was organized at
"Gorar Math" in Calcutta on Sept. 30. The speakers said that the unjust and
tormenting actions taken by the Delhi Government against Bengali and Bangla
speakers, with a label of sending back Bangladeshi Illegals, are unspeakable.
Many intellects in Calcutta protested against "Pushback" and started
a nationwide campaign for collecting signatures against it.


     ---- Ref.: Couple of articles published in PROBASHI, Oct 09

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Shams.

EMAIL: Not accessible.

Bisso kobir Sonar Bangla, Nazrul-ar Bangladesh. Jibonananda-r ruposi bangla,
ruper je tar naiko shesh -----   BANGLADESH.

Disclaimer: Views expressed here is none of my employer's or of anybody else's 
but mine. Views and facts presented in this article have no relation to reality
or anybody. 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: bhattach@quip.eecs.umich.edu (sayan bhattacharyya)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Pushback. West Bengal's view?
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:03:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: zip.1992Oct15.150300.7334
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI

In article <1992Oct15.000525.24122@bnr.ca> anwar@bnr.ca (Shams Anwar) writes:
>
>After a meeting, the ruling party of West Bengal criticized the way 132 Bangla
>speaking people  were pushed back at Horidaspur Border. They stated that 
>considering the link between Bangladesh and West Bengal in respect of language,
>culture & religion, this problem has to be considered from historical 
>perspectives.  
>
>Indian Express in its Sept. 20 issue had given heart touching accounts of
>the suffering of the captives on their way from New Delhi to Calcutta. They
>reported that the whole thing was implemented in an inhuman way and with no
>regard to any rule. "Ananda Bazar Patrika" also made similar comments. It
>was reported that all belongings of the captives, except for what they were
>wearing, were burnt and their heads were shaven. 
>
>The speakers said that the unjust and
>tormenting actions taken by the Delhi Government against Bengali and Bangla
>speakers, with a label of sending back Bangladeshi Illegals, are unspeakable.
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Shams.
>
>Bisso kobir Sonar Bangla, Nazrul-ar Bangladesh. Jibonananda-r ruposi bangla,
>ruper je tar naiko shesh -----   BANGLADESH.
>
>

This is not at all surprising to me. Of course, it is hard to comment
on second-hand reports. But it is certainly true that West Bengal has
received a raw deal from almost all the Central Governments since
independence and the complaints by the Left Front in West Bengal of
"step-motherly treatment" from the centre is substantially true. One
only has to look at the way post-1947 refugees from the former East
Pakistan were discriminated against while their counterparts from West
Pakistan were victims of central largesse and munificence.

Historically, Bengal has always been a rebellious province always
chafing at the bit to free itself from the ruling power in North India. 
Bengal has always been a very independent-spirited region. This is
apparent even now in the way we (West Bengalis) elect the Left Front to 
power each state election in complete antithesis to the prevailing 
political equations in the rest of India (remember that an anti-Centre
position is a main plank of the Left Front). This may explain quite 
a bit of why Bengalis (both illegal immigrants and legal citizens of
India) are singled out for oppression in North India, as mentioned
by the previous poster.

Shubhechhantey,

-Sayan Bhattacharyya
From: samaddar@siemens.com (Sumitro Samaddar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: How about an EEC type arrangement in our subcontinent? (wasRe: News)
Date: 10 Oct 92 21:49:05 GMT
Reply-To: samaddar@siemens.com

bhattach@quip.eecs.umich.edu (sayan bhattacharyya) writes:

>  Yes. The state of West Bengal in India has suffered something very similar.
>  In India, we have something called a "Freight Equalisation Policy" by virtue
>  of which basic raw materials (like steel, coal etc) are supplied all over the    

You are right here, but ..

>  If the EEC-type agreement proposed by the original poster comes about,
>  I am sure we will see more of this , at the trans-national level.

I don't think that EEC has any thing like freight-equalization policy.
Usually, in an EEC type arrangement, poorer units like Greece/Portugal/Spain
get financial subsidies from richer units and thus benefit, while richer
units gain easier access to markets in poorer units and thus benefit.

In the "freight equalization" policy of India, Bihar / West Bengal ended
up subsidizing richer states. That policy should go, with or without any
EEC-type arrangement for the subcontinent.


>  P.S.  To SCB-ites : I apologise that this posting is related to West
>        Bengal alone and isn't very relevant to soc.culture.bangladesh.

I tend to consider SCB as soc.culture.bangla (without the desh) aka
soc.culture.tamil ...

Sumitro
From: owl.caltech.edu!smrahman (Sharif Rahman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: re: BUET
Date: 8 Oct 1992 03:13:54 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: owl.caltech.edu
Keywords: BUET
Originator: smrahman@owl


Some more info about the new system in BUET:

a) Course selection is a little more flexible than before.  Anyone can  
signup for any course, as long as the prerequisites are met.

b) Students will be allowed to take overloads. So, it's possible to  
graduate in three and half years, instead of four.

I think BUET is trying to follow the US edu. system (to some extent).

- Mustafiz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: bc205cs@opie.bgsu.edu
Subject: Oops! test...
Organization: Bowling Green State University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 22:31:54 GMT

Oops, this was a test!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: sayeed@eemips.tamu.edu (Mohammad S Sayeed)
Subject: Re: BUET
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:55:46 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.152412.27881@cbis.ece.drexel.edu> raquib_hassan@cbis.ece.drexel.edu (Raquib Hassan) writes:
>Could anyone please tell me when and why Dr. M. H. Khan lost his job as VC
>and who are the Dean and Head of Electrical Engineering Department ?

 Dr. Khan had completed his four year term as VC, then joined University
 Grant Commision. 

 Dean of EEE: Dr. Siddique Hossain
 Head of EEE: Dr. Saiful Islam. 



Thanks,

Shaheen

Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: bhattach@quip.eecs.umich.edu (sayan bhattacharyya)
Subject: Re: How about an EEC type arrangement in our subcontinent? (wasRe: News)
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:14:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.151142.7087@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> was@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (wasif.sattar) writes:
>
>This leads me to the question - Could we have an EEC type arrangement in
>our subcontinent? Would it be viable? Obviously we would have to proceed
>in small steps. It was not an easy road for the EEC to bring together so
>many nations, cultures, economic systems under one umbrella. We have the 
>unique advantage of having been one country in the past. Do you think we
>would see a subcontinent economic community within our lifetime?
>
>Shubhechhante,
>Wasif

The EEC however had an advantage that a subcontinental economic
community wouldn't have. All of the participating countries in the
EEC had more or less similar systems of government with more or less
similar judicial and executive systems (all the participating countries
were, broadly speaking, secular parliamentary democracies). This
provided a kind of ideological common ground to the EEC. However,
of the three subcontinental countries, Pakistan and Bangladesh 
have Islamic constitutions while India has a secular constitution,
and so no such common ground exists. (Though in the case of 
Bangladesh, it became an officially "Islamic" country only belatedly,
during the Ershad regime I think).

Secondly, no single country in the EEC is so disproportionately
powerful compared to the others as to be in a position to bully
or dominate. In the case of our hypothetical subcontinental EC,
this will not be the case because India is economically much more
powerful than the other two countries. So we will probably end 
up with a scenario in which India misuses its disproportionately
large economic strength to bully the other members of the community
into submission.

Subhecchhante, 

-Sayan Bhattacharyya.
From: misra@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Boo!)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: How about an EEC type arrangement in our subcontinent? (wasRe: News)
Date: 9 Oct 1992 01:16:19 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

was@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (wasif.sattar) writes:

>India were part of the British Empire and coexisted in what was then 
>called India. Those of us who were born in the Indian subcontinent have
>a certain claim to the whole subcontinent as our home but we cannot

	I dont know how you can say this. Our claims on eachothers
	lands ended the day there was partion. I dont think it is logical
	to say that we 'have a certain claim to the whole suncontinent' 
	That claim ended in 1947. Sorry.. 

>The partition of 1947 was an agreement between the British rulers and
>Indian leaders neither of whom were necessarily elected representatives of
>the people they represented. Many families were split up by the partition.

	If that was the case why did soo many million follow them on the 
	road to freedom by non-violence? You arguement that the agreemnt 
	reached by them is somehow bad.. because they were not 'elected'
	somehow seems making the movement out to be something insignificant.

>No heed was given to those who were not in favor of the partition of the
>British India. What about these people who did not accept the partition?

how many people didnt accept partition? The rage between hindus and 
	muslims was too much.. it was either partition or civil war.

>Could they choose to call both countries their home? Can't they can lay
>claim to both countries on a moral/ethical/ethnic/cultural/family/religious
>basis? If they were originally from one of the new countries formed after
>the partition did they forever forfeit the right to live in the other
>country?

	Yes.. the majority always wins.. that is the sad part.. 

>Would it be a humane thing to do if we push them back into India regardless
>of how long they have lived in Bangladesh?

	That is a choice Bd has to make.. and if Bd decides to do so..
	I see nothing wrong with it.. the governments duty is to serve 
	its people first.. and then anyone else.. 

>In my judgement the solution lies not in pushing back the people to where
>they originally came from but to work on a united basis to help resolve
>the problems which forced them to leave their birthplaces. At the same time
>we should make it easier for people within the subcontinent to move about
>and live anywhere they choose within the subcontinent.

	The sad part about this is that our countires have much problems 
	to deal with now itself. This united thing you propose is not 
	going to happen anytime soon.. since our nations must learn to 
	stand on their 2 feet first.. the best example is germany..
	look what is happening there after unification.. there is a 
	movement of people.. and they are all germans, and after that 
	they are having problems.. I dont think this EEC concept is 
	applicabel to us.. sorry.. i disagree.. 

Xref: sparky soc.culture.bangladesh:5146 soc.culture.indian:33695 soc.culture.pakistan:15659
From: ravi@cs.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,wpi.students.desis
Subject: Re: Looking for place to stay in DC [3-5 days]
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:04:50 GMT
Reply-To: ravi@cs.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

In article <NAEEM.92Oct12185018@occs.cs.oberlin.edu>, naeem@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Naeem Mohaiemen) writes:
|> 
|> I looking for a place to stay in Washington DC for 3-5 days from Monday of
|> next week [19th]. I have to go to DC on emergency basis to get some data for 
|> thesis work.
|> 

	i hear the sheraton provides excellent service and great food.
	hope you have a great time.

	hope this helps,

	- ravi


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From: mrh3@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mohammad Ruhul Hossain)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: KOBITA...
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:30:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: Ra.mrh3.719033419
Organization: Mississippi State University


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