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From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Rec ballot-1
Date: 24 Jan 93 17:28:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

After a LONG and exhaustive search of the tape archives, here is the
ballot for the next Rectape.  The way we will do the balloting is, after
this explanation, there will be a ballot for you to pick the top 30
matches listed that you want to see.  Then, in the following posts, I
will list the matches.  They will be broken down by tape quality.


There will also be a spot where you can answer the following questions:

1) Would you like the tape to be:

 A. 6 hours in length and cost 20 US dollars.
 B. 8 hours in length and cost 25 US dollars.
 C. Make the master tape 8 hours in length so that the people who want a
    6 hour tape can get it and the the people who want an 8 hour tape
    can get that.  The price will be 20 for 6 hours and 25 for 8 hours.

2) Are there enough matches on this ballot to call for a second tape, at
   a (much) later date?  Yes or no.

The reason for this question is for a possible future tape.

I think that option C makes the most sense for all.

They way the balloting will work is that it will be weighted, a first
place match gets 30 points, 2nd place gets 29, etc).  I will post this
ballot twice, once today and again next week so that as people get back
to school next week they can vote also.  The voting will go through
1\31.  I will then tabulate the results and post the final results when
I make the master.  When Voting, just list the NUMBER next to the match.
If the first match on the ballot is Sid Vicious vs Hogan, which it won't
be <G>, and it is your 2nd pick, next to "B" on the ballot, write "1".

Then I will notify people through E Mail to send their payment.  People
will be notified in the order that they send their ballot to me.  I
guess that's it.  Any questions, feel free to E mail.  Sorry for those
who are not interested in this.  I don't mean to waste space here, but
this is the only way to reach everyone.

E mail ballots to above address, or if that does not work,
73750.752@compuserve.com.

BALLOT

Question answers
1)
2)

Matches
A.                     K.                    U.
B.                     L.                    V.
C.                     M.                    W.
D.                     N.                    X.
E.                     O.                    Y.
F.                     P.                    Z.
G.                     Q.                   AA.
H.                     R.                   BB.
I.                     S.                   CC.
J.                     T.                   DD.

That's all folks!
---
 . SLMR 2.0 . I don't need no stinkin' tagline
  
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From: abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick)
Subject: RR question: Did Yokozuna ever get taken off his feet?
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:41:21 GMT

	I didn't see the Royal Rumble (and probably won't) and I'm
wondering if Yokozuna ever fell down my a wrestlers hold or was picked up
(and not thrown out) by a bunch of other wrestlers (if so, how many tried
it and how close did they get?)

Alan Bick

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From: bdwest@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (PANTERRA)
Subject: Re: The last great match will never be...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 27 Jan 1993 08:53 EST  

In article <1993Jan21.225305.29463@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>, awalsh@mta.ca writes...
>Well, with Slick Ric leaving the WWF, the great Hulk Hogan/Flair
>match will never happen. I know they fought a few times in house
>shows, but those were never televised. It would have been nice to
>see that one last dream match happen at WM IX but unless WCW and
>WWF join together, it will never happen. It might not have been 
>really spectacular, but hey, woulda been nice.

As much as people complain about Hogan not working why so many people 
think this is a dream match is beyond me.  When Ric first went to the Whiff 
and people said what a great match this should be I never saw why. 
And, the people who posted the matches between them at house shows said
the match up was not good.  So why oh why oh why do people keep talking
about this boring,  waste of time and bandwidth match up.

The Catwoman has spoken.
	Though I am always in haste, I am never in a hurry. - Beast, X-MEN
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From: yonatan@csri.toronto.edu (Gary Will)
Subject: Re: Vince missed one..
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:22:34 GMT

In article <mike_steiner-250193104857@192.35.50.131> mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.013145.20688@rose.com>, marv.bloom@rose.com (marv
>bloom) wrote:
>> 
>>  Corporal Kirschner, egads whatever happened to him. Vince could team 
>> Sgt. Slaughter and hence "The Leathernecks", oh well maybe next time 
>> around.
>
>Kirschner was 82nd Airborne, US Army--he'd kill you if you had called him a
>"leatherneck."

...although he does wrestle as "Leatherface" for WING in Japan.

--Gary Will


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From: awhitton@bnr.ca (Alan Whitton)
Subject: Re: RR conclusion
Reply-To: awhitton@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:37:00 GMT

In article <C1Dv16.FwL@ns1.nodak.edu>, skar@warp6.cs.misu.NoDak.edu (Keith M. Skar) writes:
|> After Lex ....
|> Caeser and Cleapatra came out and invited everybody to Wrestlemania IX
|> at Caeser's Palace in Las Vegas...

I was watching the scrambled broadcast (and getting a headache for my worries
:-), and I figured the guy doing the announcing was the guy from Top Rank,
and he was going to do, "...and now LET'S GET READY TO R-U-M-B-L-E..."...

|> Just before Damian Demento came out, Harvey Whippleman brought out his
|> surprize....Looked like El Gigante, but didnt give him a name...he attacked
|> and eliminated the Undertaker.  

On the scrambled picture it looked even better :-)

Cheers,
Alan Whitton
Pass me some asprin eh?
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From: hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Subject: Re: [WCW] Flair getting the belt
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:15:55 GMT

rusbara2@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Bob Rusbasan) writes:

>If WCW does own the NWA lock, stock, and barrel, they should unify
>the titles, at least temporarily.  They should also let an American
>wear the NWA title and have a Japanese wrestler wear the WCW title
>for a few months.  I think an angle where a Japanese wrestler takes
>the WCW title back to Japan, followed by another angle where an
>American wrestler returns triumphantly from Japan with the NWA belt
>would be very interesting.

Well, I don't think New Japan office would agree with that idea. You know why?
That angle just doesn't work well in Japan because we, the fans, don't really 
give a shit about WCW title, which is a local title of the US.  The NWA name
still means a lot to some of Japanese fans, but many of us don't even care
about it since the WWF had the national expansion in '83-84 and NWA became
meaningless.  To many of us, the most prestigious titles are either IWGP title 
or All Japan's Triple Crown title. Not NWA anymore.



-- 
Hisaharu Tanabe                 E-Mail : hit@sol.acs.unt.edu
University of No Hexes                   htanabe@world.std.com (if in Japanese)
Denton,Texas                    US Mail: NT 5527, Denton, TX 76203 USA
$@EDJU>08<!wKL%F%-%5%9=#N)Bg(J

           "Don't you think it's sometimes wise not to grow up?"

                                              -- Rolling Stones
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: cmoore@scott.skidmore.edu (colin moore)
Subject: main event
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 03:07:12 GMT


Do people really think that Hart-Yokozuna will be the main event for
wrestlemainia?  It seems too predictable.  I think Vince has something
up his sleeve.  Then again, what the hell do I know? (don't answer
that)  Also, could someone post the address for the best wrestling
sheet around?  (I know this is only the 900th time someone's asked,
but help me out folks).  Thanks.  
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: reid@dsm.fordham.edu (Darin Reid)
Subject: Re: Cages, these days...
Organization: Fordham University/CLC, Division of Science and Math
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:58:49 GMT

I just can't get used to these new cages.  I remember the cage matches
between "Chico" Santana ang "The Hammer", IMHO those were classics
(for the IC belt).  I also miss (I haven't seen any lately) cage
matches where the object is to be the first to the floor (either by
door or by climbing out).  Lately all cage matches have just been
regular matches surronded by cages.
--
Darin Reid

	       Internet:                       Bitnet:
       reid@dsm.fordham.edu            areid@fordmulc[.bitnet]
       areid@mary.fordham.edu
       ddreid@nyx.cs.du.edu
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Subject: Superbrawl
From: <WELACK@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Wednesday, 27 Jan 1993 07:58:52 EST
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

I was looking forward to the Superbrawl PPV already, but after
reading Jon Kincaid's post about the TV taping, now I'm really
psyched!!!

Reason 1. Sting vs Vader Always a good match. I'm no big Sting
fan, but he does work well and hard when working with Vader. If
this "White Castle of Fear" match isn't too dumb, this could be
great.

Reason 2. The return of Ric Flair. I'm not thrilled they're
bringing him in as a face, but a face Flair is better than
no Flair at all. I'm hoping that he does one of his $500
suit interviews at Superbrawl. I can hearing him saying to
Vader, "Listen Big Man, I'm the dirtiest player in the game!
Woooooooooo!!!!"

Reason 3. The return (at least it sounds that way) of the
Heavenly Bodies and Jim Cornette. I've always been a fan of
Cornette and the Midnight Express. I've recently seen some
tape of the Bodies (thanks Herb) and while I don't rate
them as high as the Express, they're pretty darn good. And
if Bobby Eaton is with them. Should be great!

Now if only Erik Watts would miss his plane that night or
something..... Cowpie, you have a heck of an opportunity
here, don't screw it up.

Bill Lack
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From: jnelson@iastate.edu (Jeremy F Nelson)
Subject: Official keepers of information needed.
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:51:43 GMT

To Those who keep the miscelaneous information for this group,

As I often get requests for information that I do not have, it would
be a great help to me if those of you who have compiled/upkeep certain
information sources (Wrestler's real names/Each federations history
of title changes/Wrestling relations, etc) would please contact
me via email so that I can put your address in the FAQ as a source
for this information.  It would also help so when someone asks me
a specific question, I will know who to direct them to.

Thanks for your time.
Jeremy Nelson

ObWrestling: Am I the only one who wonders just how high(low) the new
  'slam' record will go on the charts?  I wonder just how many marks will
  shell out $10 for it.

-- 
jnelson@iastate.edu
Four
Lines
Suffice.
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From: shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum)
Subject: Re: Terry Taylor's degree
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:12:28 GMT

In article <hit.727989083@sol> hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe) writes:
>ug@brigadoon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu (Christian Bareford) writes:
>
>>The question is, which wrestler's have legitimate degrees?  Although I  
>
>Shane Douglas has a master's degree.  I don't know which colege, but it
>has been mentioned in both WWF and WCW.
>

Well, Bobby Heenan said he had only 1 more class session to attend, and
he would have graduated medical school, but he didn't go because he was
busy; had something else to do.
I do believe tho that he has a masters in Broadcast Journalism. Weasel-
cum-laude, I do believe.
Trust me.

>
>-- 
>Hisaharu Tanabe                 E-Mail : hit@sol.acs.unt.edu
>           "Don't you think it's sometimes wise not to grow up?"
>
>                                              -- Rolling Stones
                            YES!


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From: robc@cs.pitt.edu (Rob Conticello)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Rectape ballot part 1
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:36:31 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <6494.137.uupcb@ssr.com> dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) writes:
>1) Would you like the tape to be:
>
> A. 6 hours in length and cost 20 US dollars.
> B. 8 hours in length and cost 25 US dollars.
> C. Make the master tape 8 hours in length so that the people who want a
>    6 hour tape can get it and the the people who want an 8 hour tape
>    can get that.  The price will be 20 for 6 hours and 25 for 8 hours.
  How about another option:
  D. Make an 8 hour tape for everyone, and those who paid $20 for 6 hours
     will make a solemn pledge to not watch the last two hours. :)

  In my opinion, option D definitely makes the most sense.

-Rob
Posted-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 16:29:03 -0600
Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 16:27:30 CST
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 16:29:03 -0600
From: Otto Heuer #3 <ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com>
To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: [WCW] Saturday Night - Battle of the Underdogs - WOW
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Organization: mailEnteringNews at Honeywell SRC

fipster writes:
>  So who was it?\  Please summarize who it was and what moves they did.

The name was something like Johnny V - I saved the tape to my permanent
tape so I can check it if no one else remembers.  He wrestled barefoot
(looked like he was wearing spats or something).

He walked the top rope.  When Pat Rose had him in some kind of hold,
this guy jumped up, so would be sitting on the top rope, slingshot
HIMSELF off the top rope, and did a backflip.  When both guys were 
running back and forth from rope to rope, this guy did the splits
(as opposed to the standard "duck under") then did a nip up and
some sort of super kick.  At one point, he was standing on one leg
and had his other foot ALL THE WAY UP IN Pat Rose's face, kicking 
him repeatedly!  For the finisher, he dropped Pat in the corner
(like 2 Cold does for a few of his finishers) and jumped up in the
direction of the top turnbuckle, did the splits in mid-air, one
leg landing on each of the top ropes as they come out of the top
turnbuckle, and double-sling-shot himself to do a backflip onto
Pat Rose for the pin.

All I can say is:  put him in with Brad Armstrong against Benoit
and Pillman!  Bring in The Lightning Kid and Liger for the
Light Heavyweight tourney they've been putting off:

Liger
Pillman
Benoit
Johhn V (or whatever his name was)
Flamingo
Badd
Lightning Kid
Armstrong

That's a nice even eight-man, single elimination tourney.  If they
want to make it a bigger tourney, add Muta, Mucus Bagwell, Owen
Hart, 2 Cold for a 12-man tourney!

		--Otto "Hacking to 2-Cold's new music" Heuer

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From: hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze)
Subject: Re: WWF Rantings
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:06:22 GMT

> In article <C15xp2.Cv8@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca>, Herb Kunze writes:
> >  Outside of Ric Flair (heads above the rest), Shawn Michaels and Bret
> >  Hart, who else in the WWF consistenly works hard?  In WCW, there has 
> 
> Even though I'm an anti-WWhiFfer, Herb, I have to throw in these names:
> 
>   Tom Boric (almost up there with Flair when you consider the amount of 
>              styles this guy can do...see my subsequent post about this guy)
>   Bam-Bam Bigelow, at least live
>   Owen Hart

  IMO, none of these three guys works consistently at even one-tenth of
  his potential in the WWF.  

  Owen Hart is completely wasted by Vince.  I have to think that he likes
  to work hard for a year (in New Japan, Germany, etc.) and then likes to
  rest for a year (in WWF).

  Bigelow, from what I've seen so far and from what he did last time round,
  worked a hell of a lot harder in his just past New Japan stint.  We'll
  see what he does at the PPV.

  The Max Moon character seems a little off for some reason.  I just don't
  think that Boric is ready to work that style.  

  I agree that these three have a hell of a lot of potential but they 
  aren't really allowed to show it.  

                                                               Herb...
From: carlton@hfglobe.intel.com (Mark Carlton)
Subject: Re: Old AWA tape partial review
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:34:25 GMT

jbeverly@adobe.com (Jamie D. Beverly) writes:


>Match 2: Kevin Kelly and Paul Brown vs Garvin and Rogers
>   
>about 10-15 more pounds on him.
>  After the match, Jimmy Garvin busted on the Road Warriors "they are at
>the bottom of the list" nad capped on the Freebirds (?!) This lost me. I
>don't remember him not being part of the Freebirds. Hopefully someone can
>clear this up.

Jimmy Garvin wrestled as "Gorgeous Jimmy Garvin" with his valet Precious
as a heel in the AWA and NWA for quite a while.  He turned face when
his brother, Ronnie Garvin(really his father-in-law) was fueding with
Ric Flair.  Later Flair fueded with Jimmy over Precious.  Gravin joined
the Freebirds(Gordy and Hayes) at a Clash of Champions which is the last
time I ever saw Gordy as a Freebird around 1989.

Mark
Posted-Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 20:47:48 -0600
Received-Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 20:46:13 CST
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 20:47:48 -0600
From: Otto Heuer #3 <ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com>
To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: [WCW] Power Hour - Buddy Lee Parker
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Organization: mailEnteringNews at Honeywell SRC


Anyone else notice that Buddy Lee Parker was introduced as
"Lt Colonel Buddy Lee Parker" (though both Larry Z and
Tony S referred to him as "Sgt Buddy Lee Parker".

Looks like our favorite B. Lee (sorry Eaton) got a promotion.

		--Otto "Hack-Man" Heuer
From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Royal Rumble summary
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:18:06 GMT
Organization: Carleton University

In <1993Jan26.162821.10579@ac.dal.ca> jsteeves@ac.dal.ca (Jason Steeves) writes:
>said "Narcissist". We've just been mistaken the past several weeks.

>If anyone had gone to the bother of looking the word up in the
>dictionary (as Mean Gene did for us already), you would find:

>narcissism : self-love
>narcissist : one who practices narcissism
>narcissus  : bulbous plant

I think the problem was the way Heenan was pronouncing it. He kept
saying "nar-SIS-us". Only once did I hear him say
"NAR-sis-sist/NAR-sis-us. 

Michael
From: 126580828@vill.edu (Matador of M83)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: chris adams
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:25:00 GMT
Organization: Villanova University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1993Jan21.202346.733@eos.arc.nasa.gov>, shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum) writes...
>In article <1993Jan20.154219.15173@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> pmbarlow@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Pete Barlow... 'The Candy Guru') writes:
>>In article <C15z4t.1nt@news.iastate.edu>, jnelson@iastate.edu (Jeremy F Nelson) writes:
>>> In article <1993Jan20.154548.16377@scott.skidmore.edu> cmoore@scott.skidmore.edu (colin moore) writes:
>>>>anyone know where Chris Adams is?
>>> 
>>
>>Fans, the guy Jeremy just described is BRYAN Adams, not Chris.  They are NOT
>>related.
>>
> 
> 
>Bryan Adams also manages to hold down a second career as a rock star,
>and has had hits such as "Cuts like a knife" (his tribute to juicing),
>and the wimpfest "Everything I do I do For you" (reminises about working
>for Vince). It has also been reported here on the net that Crush also
>moonlights as a country-western singer, thus his finishing move is
>the "Achy Breaky Head".
>Ruomour has it that Bryan is going to form a band with fellow
>wrestler/musicians Sting and Sid Vicious.
>It's true; trust me.
> 
> 
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Sure, and Verne Gagne is a baseball announcer and was on Late Night with
David Letterman last night!

The Matador of M83
From: jseager@mta.ca
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Jeff Jarrett
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:43:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: jupiter.1993Jan26.144336.8053
Reply-To: jseager@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada

Just wondering what's going on with Jeff Jarrett. I thought he was supposed to
start wrestling for Vince, but there's been no mention of him on the shows. I
know he did a couple of house shows at the end of last year, but is that going
to be it?

Also what exactly is the deal with Vince and the USWA? Did he buy out Marlin
and Lawler or is he just using this group as a feeder system. And does any-one
know two-cold-scorpio's real name, and where he wrestled before?

J. "SWAT" Seager at the Mount
From: ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com (Otto Heuer #3)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: [WWF] Monday Night Raw (comments - no review)
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:27:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: pserv.9301261525.AA01882
Organization: mailEnteringNews at Honeywell SRC
Posted-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 09:27:32 -0600
Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 09:26:01 CST
To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling


Was it just a local problem, or did their video seem hosed for the
entire hour (except during the commercials)?  Almost didn't want
to keep the Hennig/Flair match...almost.

Best line:  "Is he wearing a flesh-colored beanie?" as the camera goes 
in for a close-up of the back of Savage's head.  :-)

Anyone else catch Curt blading the first time they watched it?  :-)

I saw his hand go up to his forehead after he had been fumbling with
his kneepad and the flip over the turnbuckle, but it was much more
obvious when I rewinded and watched it again.  ;-)

		--Otto "Cactus Hack" Heuer
From: murray@husc8.harvard.edu (Brendan Murray)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Perfect/Flair at RAW
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:52:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1993Jan22.165202.19685
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center


C'mon guys, you mean to tell me that no one out there was at the RAW 
taping (or heard about it through other means)?  I'm anxiously
awaiting details of the Perfect victory over Flair last Monday.

Someone posted that Flair is fighting Razor at a house show in Philly.
Is it possible that Ramon interfered in the match (maybe as revenge for 
a backfired plan at the Rumble) and caused Flair to lose?  

-- Chris and Andres

P.S. We got the new Observer and read about the Boston Garden card two
weeks back.  It was the first time we missed Flair at the Garden (because
of Law School finals!) and Observer reported that it was Flair's best WWF
match ever -- it lasted one hour and several people who reported to 
Observer gave it more than **** (two people gave it 5*).
How pissed are we?