HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tjm@hrt213.brooks.af.mil (Tim Miller)
Subject: Re: Supidity of the Lambs !
Organization: AL/HRTI, Brooks AFB
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:27:08 GMT

On 10 Nov 92 13:16:51 GMT, gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) said:

 G> I have tried noteserv... just that I have never actually managed to
 G> make him work. And if he won't work for me, well, then I guess I
 G> can't use him.  

	It works for me; what's your problem?  RTFM, or in this case,
RTFH. 

-- Cerebus <tjm@hrt213.brooks.af.mil>
"Read The Fricking Help, in case you're confused."
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri "Droopy" Farenell)
Subject: site for IRC
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:49:33 GMT

I'm sorry if this seems like an amateurish question or
anything but is there a list of sites where I can connect
to IRC? I guess all I need is one but just please tell me
the site and how exactly I'd go about it. We used to have
it here but not anymore for some reason. Thanks in advance.
Appreciated.

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Clarkson '95	       			    |  GO ARIZONA FOOTBALL!  (?!)
farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu            |  GO CLARKSON HOCKEY!
AHL and ECAC contact for rec.sport.hockey   |  GO USA HOCKEY!
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CONGRATULATIONS TO THE 1992 CALDER CUP CHAMPION ADIRONDACK RED WINGS!	
	     Calder Cup Champs: 1981 1986 1989 1992
From: ecn644e@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: help: how does channels got named?
Date: 13 Nov 92 13:55:38 +1100
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

Dear netters,

I am relatively new to irc, but interested in knowing whether those channels
on irc is somehow standard (eg. hottub, sherwood etc) because I saw them in 
most servers. Or channels names are arbitrarily given. 

I am thinking of setting up a server for some special interest groups and 
want to use their group names instead.

Please comment.

Simpson.
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: mkwg9074@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (M. K. Weaver)
Subject: Re: client command line code
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 00:49:03 GMT

doc@uiuc.edu writes:
  I want to disable server specification so
>they will be forced to use the default server. 

	Boy, makes me glad I am graduating.

 Besides, I dont
>think many of the users know the /server command exists.  
	
	Those who read alt.irc will soon find it.

So, all I need to know is where the code is and how to change it.  Let 
>me tell you what I do NOT need.  I do not need flames, criticisms, or
>any other "why do you want to do that?" type comments. Thank you.

	Then I hope you are NOT reading this. You made your
	statements in public. I wish you would have just
	asked for the information but giving the fact that
	you made statements like "force" IT seems that without
	an answer of why...with some sort of practical answer,
	I get this sick sort of queasy feeling in my stomach.
	
	You know the kind of thing when your parents FORCE you
	to eat vegetables <though at least in that case they
	tend to tell you why they are good for you>.

	Please do not take this as a comment towards the 
	particular person since he did not need it, nor I hope
	does it seem like a flame.

	Monica 
-- 
"When you sit with a nice girl for two hours, you think it is only a minute.
But when you sit on a hot stove for a minute, you think it's two hours.
THAT'S RELATIVITY." (Albert Einstein)
                 "My name is Monica. Got a minute?"
From: dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: baloobot doc!
Date: 9 Nov 92 06:30:32 GMT
Organization: Doug's House of Disco

Something Riesgo said with his mouth full ...
> WARNINGS!!!!! And never just take a file from someone else        
> and just load it into your script file! Make sure you understand  
> every command in the file..take your time to read through         
> it and analyse what each command does..If you have any doubts     

I wonder if you're still using that ctcp ping script I gave you, Riesgo, the
one where I put in the back door ... (now if I can only remember what the
string I put in there to activate it was ...)

:)

-- 
----------------------- \  Zippy says:
Doug McLaren,            \  I'm RELIGIOUS!! I love a man with a HAIRPIECE!!
DemoN on IRC              \  Equip me with MISSILES!!
dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu  \
-------------------------- /
From: moon@acca.nmsu.edu ('short attention span theater')
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: *sigh*
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:08:36 GMT
Organization: Alternative Collegiate Computing Association

In article <mark.719973725@coombs> mark@coombs.anu.edu.au (Mark) writes:
>suopanki@zombie.oulu.fi (Heikki Suopanki) writes:
>
>>>>>>> On 23 Oct 92 19:36:24 GMT, gwydion@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Mercenary Programmer) said:
>
>>> Back in *my* day you could fit *all* the people who were on
>>> IRC in a single channel, AND have a nice quiet discussion
>>> with all of them.
>
>>Back in my day you could log on and often notice you were the only
>>user (and the net was full connected).
>
>>-Heikki
>
>Memories of Tex (the original one) and I sitting in Bld 5 next to each other
>using IRC in finland to talk... it hadnt even migrated yet and Jarkko wasnt
>as cynical about it then :)
>
>Mark

Back in my day, ...   I got work done. :( :( :( :(
*sigh*

-jon

-- 
name:    Jonggu Moon               Appearance:   ///\\         ^>*<^
nick:    Jon                                     -o-o-
address: Home is where I log in.                 ( o )
Phone:   just send me mail :P                    /   \
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: mkwg9074@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (M. K. Weaver)
Subject: Re: Calling upon the creators.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 04:06:26 GMT

titus@coombs.anu.edu.au (titus chiu) writes:

>the creators of irc intended it as a chatting medium, not as a toy for people
>so they can have automated scripts to (quote) 'give an atmosphere to the
>channel'

	Somewhere in the back of my mind I hear titus saying <correct
	me if I am wrong please titus> That if the creators of irc 
	wanted people to have automated scripts to 'give an atmosphere'
	they would have created a mud instead.	

>ps: i havent said this before, i have nothing against ircII, in fact i think
>it is a great client <just practicing censorship, mkw>


	bfn,
	Monica
-- 
"When you sit with a nice girl for two hours, you think it is only a minute.
But when you sit on a hot stove for a minute, you think it's two hours.
THAT'S RELATIVITY." (Albert Einstein)
                 "My name is Monica. Got a minute?"
From: mattm@maypo.ai.mit.edu (Matt Mosley)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: We had a really big #Election
Date: 5 Nov 1992 21:15:11 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: maypo.ai.mit.edu

In article <1992Nov5.053209.1015@tamsun.tamu.edu> tel1568@tamuts.tamu.edu (Thomas Edward Landrum) writes:
>
>
>This being posted for a friend...He speaks for no one...Not even himself.

It seems that he speaks better than you thought...  Considering this
message was reposted COUNTLESS times...  Mind explaining?

><  Think for yourself, and feel the walls ... become sand beneath your feet.
><  Matt Mosley / Internet: mattm@ai.mit.edu                - Queensryche
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: buboo@alf.uib.no (Ove Ruben R Olsen)
Subject: Supidity of the Lambs !
Organization: Slaughtering of the Lambs 
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 10:10:14 GMT

Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen writes:

>                        All the time, I get MSGs from people wondering,
>how do you make a bot? Can I have the source of your BOT (Glurg, btw).
>Really irritating when you go to IRC to communicate rather than go'n
>teach others to write bots.

Well.... if you are "nisse" (pardon foreigners) to write a bot that is
lame enuff to keep a lame channel you should prepare yourself to get
such questions. That is called USERSUPPORT.
If you go to IRC to communicate, why do you have a bot then ? I can't
really se the logic here. But then again, I'm just stupid when it comes
to such things.

How much have YOU been on IRC vs your BOT been on IRC to keep YOUR channel ?
This is a essential question every channel keeping bot writer should 
considder. Said in another word: DO you NEED it ?

Afraid that someone may "steal" you precious channel ? get real :-)
Neither channels nor nicknames are owned. This is IRC, not your home :-)

There is something wrong when 200 out of 700 users are Bots... I did not
make this estimate, someone on #T_Z did it last sunday (or was it saturday,
when don't matter).
So when we reach 1300 users (march next year if this growth continues),
there will be 300 bots. Out of those 300 280 will be /on join <nick> 
<channel> /op


\Ruben.
(Say NO to unatended bots)

PS: It's soon time for the Norwegian lamb slaugthering. (Hei Jello :-), 
    we had a premeal the other day... it tasted wonderfull...
  :DS

-- 
        Ove Ruben R Olsen a Gnarfer and VI user. EMAIL: ruben@uib.no. 
     Maintaining the EX/VI-archive and a couple of the Comp.Editors FAQs.
    People that are ignorant tend to live a frustrated life, at least when 
     it comes to editing - But I do belive this is a general rule in life
From: s_titz@irau27.ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: We had a really big #Election
Date: 5 Nov 1992 17:51:22 GMT
Organization: Fachschaft math/inf, Uni Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: irau27.ira.uka.de

In article <1d972aINNqce@agate.berkeley.edu> grantham@oreo.berkeley.edu (Jon Grantham) writes:
>...
>I still have to edit the log to take out all the bot crap.  Once I do, I'd
>like to make the log of the IRC election coverage available to the general
>public.  Now, I could do that via DCC over IRC, but that would probably be
>an inefficient waste of bandwidth.  If anybody would like to volunteer an
>ftp home for it, I'd be grateful.

DCC does not cost more bandwidth than FTP.

olaf

-- 
    o     Olaf Titz - comp.sc.student - univ of karlsruhe - germany
 _ /<_    s_titz@iravcl.ira.uka.de - uknf@dkauni2.bitnet - praetorius@irc
(_)>(_)   +49-721-60439 - did i forget something?
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: ckp2n@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Christina Powell)
Subject: Re: Amazing Stories
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:25:19 GMT

rpointe@hubcap.clemson.edu  writes:
> thecure@ee.mu.OZ.AU (matthew aardvarkious) writes:
> 
> >The following is an untouched true extract from #twilight_zone
> 
> ><Rothbard> How do I get the /list command to wait for me to read a page?  (It scrolls off too fast to read, now)
> ><DWalker> type /set hold_mode on
> ><Silek> try /set hold_mode on
> ><Rothbard>  
> ><Rothbard> You guys are great!  thanks!
> ><Silek> Wow, we are great ..
> >> wow! a compliment!
> ><Morkeleb> he prolly said it on the wrong channel ..
> ><DWalker> Congrats, break out the champaign :)
> ><Silek> must be
> 
> >Believe it or not.
> 
> The more amazing thing to me, is that:
>   a) he got an answer
>   b) it wasn't some inane joke like "type /sig list! hahaha!"
> 
That's not really fair.  The couple of times I've gone into the
#Twilight_Zone to ask a question, I've gotten a fairly prompt and
helpful answer.  Maybe it just depends on what you're asking
(i.e., not about bots) and how you ask (i.e., straight to the
point but not rudely).

Newsgroups: alt.irc.recovery
From: gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl)
Subject: Re: 10 Months!
Organization: Department of Astronomy, University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:36:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.030105.16009@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> lizzie@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Mistress Elizabeth) writes:

>People watch TV and consider it boring...does that mean that they are
>addicted to TV?

Maybe, maybe not. The point is that whether or not you think it's
boring, you may or may not be addicted. The addiction clues are that
you use IRC to the extent that it interferes with your life, and you
feel that you can't stop.

> (Please don't start
>comparing IRC addiction to alcoholism or something, cause I don't think
>they are the same at all.)

Fine. Let me be the judge of my addictions, and you be the judge of
yours.

Newsgroups: alt.irc.recovery
From: lizzie@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Mistress Elizabeth)
Subject: Re: 10 Months!
Organization: liz@wpi.wpi.edu, hiding out at GNU
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:01:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov1.234116.11616@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) writes:
>
>You're right that I could probably go on IRC and consider it boring.
>However, I considered it boring long before I stopped using it, and
>yet I still used it.
>
>So, that's not a sign that I've recovered. 


People watch TV and consider it boring...does that mean that they are
addicted to TV?  Probably not.  I still use IRC on occassion, mainly
to keep in touch with old IRC friends.  I do not consider myself an
addict any longer.  I used to stay up for hours and hours on IRC, even
when there was nobody that I knew that was on.  I don't do that anymore.
Does recovery have to mean never using IRC again?  (Please don't start
comparing IRC addiction to alcoholism or something, cause I don't think
they are the same at all.)
From: giovin@medr3.ecs.umass.edu (Rocky J Giovinazzo)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: 50 WOMEN U.S. SENATORS !
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:44:04 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <1du324INNs1g@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aj336@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Pat Weber) writes:
>
>mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu says:
>
>>                          50 WOMEN U.S. SENATORS !
>>               In a philosophy class here at UW-EC last fall (1991),
>>          Dr. Bruce Jannusch suggested the idea of a Constitutional
>>          Amendment REQUIRING one male AND ONE FEMALE U.S. Senator
>>          from each State.
>>               WHY DON'T YOU WOMEN GO FOR IT?!
>>                                   Robert E. McElwaine
>>          P.S.: Pass this on.
>
>Oh this is a great idea, but may I suggest we go one step further. Let's have
>one BLACK heterosexual male, one BLACK heterosexual handicapped male,
>one BLACK homosexual male, one BLACK homosexual handicapped male,
>one HISPANIC heterosexual male, one HISPANIC heterosexual handicapped male,
>one HISPANIC homosexual male, one HISPANIC homosexual handicapped male,
>one ASIAN heterosexual male, one ASIAN heterosexual handicapped male,
>one ASIAN homosexual male, one ASIAN homosexual handicapped male,
>ne BLACK heterosexual female, one BLACK heterosexual handicapped female,
>one BLACK homosexual female, one BLACK homosexual handicapped female,
>one HISPANIC heterosexual female, one HISPANIC heterosexual handicapped female,
>one HISPANIC homosexual female, one HISPANIC homosexual handicapped female,
>one ASIAN heterosexual female, one ASIAN heterosexual handicapped female,
>one ASIAN homosexual female, one ASIAN homosexual handicapped female,
>[A[A
>..oh yeah, let's have a rabbi and a white guy too.

This was my original arguement, but take it from the other side too.
This would also prevent a state from having 2 women Senators at once.
--- Really, quota systems seem to do nothing more than attempt to 
correct the symptom and not the cause.

Rocky Giovinazzo
giovinaz@hks.hks.com
From: borden@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Dave Borden)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: Predictions after a Clinton victory
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:48:32 GMT
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA
Reply-Tp: borden@m5.harvard.edu

In article <1992Nov5.104922.5423@desire.wright.edu> demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.140150.27652@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten) writes:
>...
>> However - I thought I'd drop in a few predictions for the future:
>> 
>> 1) Conservatives will now start whining about the election - vote
>>    totals, electoral vs popular, exit polls and other stuff.  Just
>>    remember - if Bush had won they wouldn't listen to our whining,
>>    so why worry about theirs.  Just say to them "Hey, imagine what
>>    you would say to me if Clinton had lost - and then say that to
>>    yourself."
>
>	Exactly.  I've heard very little whining, but a lot of poor winners.
>
>	But I do agree that this election wasn't a landslide.  Not when your
>opponent gets 168 electoral votes and the winner of the election comes in third
>in Utah.  (Clinton almost came in third in Idaho, and Bush in Maine.)
>	The results look a lot more like 1968.

Sounds like I'm hearing some whining right now :)

  - Dave Borden
    borden@m5.harvard.edu
From: bobh@troy.uucp (22131-hettmansperger)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: Predictions after a Clinton victory
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:30:24 GMT
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ

In article <1992Nov5.130923.385@cbfsb.cb.att.com> colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.234925.2134@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, bobh@troy.uucp (22131-hettmansperger) writes:
>> In article <1992Nov4.202341.23359@cbfsb.cb.att.com> colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten) writes:
>> >
>> >I agree completely - if you get the most votes you win.  The idea
>> >that you win the "states" is an anachronism. 
>> >
>> Why?  The electoral college ends up making both popular vote and wide
>> geographic support important to win.  Otherwise, the winner will be
>> determined basically by the cities.  I think it's a nice compromise.
>> 
>
>I think this kind of thinking is about as outmoded as the idea
>that states elect people.

What do you mean "outmoded"?  Do you mean that at one time the electoral 
college was justified, but now it is not?  It was a compromise to begin
with, and its real intent was to throw close races to the house of
representatives (which was more likely back before the two party system).
But, I still like the fact that it forces the candidates to run a more
diverse campaign -- campaining to rural, suburban, and urban areas.

>  "Elected by the cities" - did all
>the people in every city vote alike, and all the people in the
>rural areas vote alike?  

No, but I *do* think that people who see candidates in person have different
voting behavior than people who just see them on tv (for example, in 
Somerset county, NJ, Perot ended up with almost 70% of the popular vote! 
-- probably because he visited there).  By having to win states rather than
just win the popular vote, it is in the best interest of the candidates to
travel to less densly populated area, where they might otherwise have less
impact.  I would guess that if we went to strict popular vote, the 
candidates would campaign more in the cities where they can reach more people
with fewer, and closer appearances.

>What's wrong with voting by the people,
>popular vote, not by state?  

The same reason that we have such different methods of selecting the Senate
versus the House - to balance the effects of population and geography.  Would
you suggest that the Senate is also "unfair" because it gives Rhode Island
as much say as Texas?

>If we are going to vote by state, why
>have Electoral votes - why not the majority of a state means the
>candidate gets 1 vote.  You get 26 votes (or a pluarity) you
>win.  

Just another compromise to balance population and geography interests.

>Why even weight it?  I think the popular vote is the fairest
>way to go.
>

Well, you're entitled to your opinion.  I happen to disagree.

-Bob
From: harelb@math.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Date: 06 Nov 92 21:18 PST
Subject: [pointer:] QUINCENTENIAL: "We Are S
Nf-ID: #N:9211070518.AA25598@tba.msi.corne:-2008642973:000:1151
Nf-From: math.cornell.edu!harelb    Nov  6 21:18:00 1992


From: harelb@math.cornell.edu (misc.activism.progressive co-moderator)
Subject: [pointer:] QUINCENTENIAL: "We Are Still Here"

    "Columbus was a slave trader, a thief, a pirate, and most certainly
    not a hero.
 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    "The Taino, Arawak, and other indigenous peoples of the Caribbean,
    the first "hosts of Columbus," were systematically destroyed [..]
    Every man over 14 years of age was obliged to bring a quota of
    gold to the conquistadors every three months. Those who could not
    pay the tribute had their hands cut off "as a lesson." Most bled
    to death.
 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    since 1900 one-third of all indigenous nations in the Amazon have
    been decimated, while during the same time one- quarter of the
    forest has disappeared. There is a direct relationship between how
    industrial society consumes land and resources and how it consumes
    peoples. [..]  In the past 150 years, we have seen the extinction
    of more species than since the ice age.

[...]


[just posted to misc.activism.progressive]
From: tzs@carson.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: Public Election Server Stats -- An Internet Application
Keywords: yale,medco,master,best
Date: 8 Nov 92 06:59:24 GMT
Organization: University of Washington School of Law, Class of '95

In article <Bx8AsF.Gw6@world.std.com> bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:
>(don't ask me why so many people queried for results before the
>election even began, perhaps they have more faith in computers than is
>reasonably healthy.)

I queried before the election started to verify that I could reach
world.std.com, because I don't have faith in computers. 

--Tim Smith
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.save.the.earth
From: pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu (Paul Ciszek)
Subject: Re: AF/ATS: LA rioter sentenced to 19 years!!!
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 07:37:36 GMT

aforum@moose.uvm.edu (Autonome Forum) writes:

>Donald Coleman was recently sentenced to 19 years and 8 months (!) in
>prison for tossing a molotov cocktail into a 7-Eleven store on April
>30, the second night of rioting in Los Angeles. Coleman was sentenced
>by Superior Judge Nancy Brown who is obviously a racist, sadistic,
>piece of shit fascist. (Sorry for the anger, but this is simply
>ridiculous!!)

OK, I'll bite.  How much time _should_ a person get for throwing a Molotov
cocktail thru a window?  How much time should a person get for throwing a
Molotov Cocktail thru _your_ window?

>Coleman was the first of nearly 8,000 people arrested during the LA riots
>to be sentenced.

Meaning?

Paul Ciszek, pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu | No nation was ever drunk when wine was
                                   | cheap.   -- Thomas Jefferson
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