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From: clong@romulus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Calves (was Re: Lat pulldowns (was Re: Average Lifting Ability ))
Date: 12 Apr 92 18:19:46 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Apr10.194849.17621@athena.mit.edu>, Claude Poux writes:

> yes, but chris, what is your bodyfat level, and what is your
> waistline?

Gee, Claude, I wasn't aware that much fat ever got deposited on the
calves.  If you must know, when I flex them I can see the split in
the two major parts from top to bottom.  My chest is also more than
10" bigger than my waist; how about you?  When I flex my chest it
splits the pecs nicely into upper and lower (I get a nice roll), and
the three seperate muscles in my thighs stand out when I flex them.
I'm not ripped and I need to lose about 20 pounds of fat (in my
estimation), but I'm certainly not a pig.  Why do people even
measure their bodyfat?  All you have to do is look in the mirror.

The only people you're going to find who are ripped and 240 at 5'10"
are heavy steroid users, which I'm certainly not one.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: bill@turing.toronto.edu (Bill Monhemius)
Subject: Building up Stamina
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:22:50 GMT

Not being a health expert, I have a pretty basic question:  What should one
incorporate into his diet and exercise routine to increase stamina?

-Bill

bill@turing.toronto.edu
From: SSDC2@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (J Green)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: addition to last post
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:01:55 GMT

i almost forgot to post the best part!

when i told the guy/kid working at the gym "something's not right with that"
he asked "why not?"
me: "well, just the carbs alone would be 180 calories, and the total is 197?"
to which he replied "how do you know that?".
so i said "carbs have 4 calories per gram, and 45 times 4 is 180".
and he said "well it must be 'cause some are complex carbs and some are
simple carbs".
he didn't believe me when i said "all carbs have 4 calories per gram" until
i said "trust me", and then he pretended to believe me.

Janice"i would worry more if he had been muscular"G

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From: grs02502@stat.appstate.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Gaining weight
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:11:55 EDT
Organization: Appalachian State University

In article <14373@pitt.UUCP>, jblst5@icarus.lis.pitt.edu (Jan B Larsen) writes:
> 
> Anybody trying to gain weight should check out the book "Super Squats: How to gain 
> 30 lbs of muscle in 6 weeks", by R. Strossen, PhD, Ironman Enterprises.
> 
> The basic idea is like this:
> 
> - Work out 2 days/week
> - Eat a high protein, high calorie diet
> - Drink A LOT of milk every day (from 2 quarts to a gallon)
> - Get plenty of rest/sleep
> 
> The workout:
> 
> - 1 set of 20 reps (deep) squats. Forced breathing between each rep.
> - 1 set of 15-20 reps light pullovers to stretch the rib cage.
> - 2 sets of bench press 
> - 2 sets of bent rows
> 
> That's it! Add 5 lbs to the squat every workout. These squats are incredible
> demanding. After the set you feel like puking/fainting. You actually breath
> like a steam engine after you have completed 12-15 reps.
> 
> I tried this program for 5 weeks, and my bodyweight went from 215 - 230 lbs, my
> squat from 300 lbs to 380 lbs (20 reps) and my thighs increased 2(!) inches.
> I also made good gains on upper body strenght/size. All this in 5 weeks!
> Obviously I didn`t get any leaner on this program, but I think it is superior 
> for gaining weight/strength.
> 
> I tried a max squat right after the 5 week program, and I was actually stronger 
> than before, even though I had only done 20 rep squats.
> 
> I did this experiment a year ago, and next week I'm going to try it again.
> I`ll post to the group and tell you how I am doing on the program.
> 
> I would be glad to answer questions about this program.
> 
> - Jan
> 
> 
> 


     One of the key factors that makes this program work is the release of
growth hormone, epinephrine, norepineprhine,catecholmines,etc. after the short
intense bouts of exercise.  Interval training works the same way.  Interval
training is the way sprinters train.  Notice how sprinters are a good bit bigger
than their marathoning counterparts.

-Brett
From: jblst5@icarus.lis.pitt.edu (Jan B Larsen)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Carbs
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:32:33 GMT
Reply-To: jblst5@icarus.lis.pitt.edu
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article kujrpcINNo67@spim.mips.com, jalal@ralph.mips.com (Jalal Rajabali) writes:
>
>
>How many calories does one gram of Carbohydrate has?
>
>Is it true that one gram of fat/protein has 9 calories?
>
>e-mail: jalal@mips.com
>
>Thanks,
>Jalal

1 gram fat = 9 kcal
1 gram protein = 4 kcal
1 gram carbohydrate = 4 kcal

- Jan
From: silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Inner and Lower Pec Workout
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:58:35 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <92107.105959TAC@ysub.ysu.edu> TAC@ysub.ysu.edu (Troy Allen Cross) writes:

>I believe that inner chest is worked more by holding the contraction.
>
>Troy


Also, use a closer grip in the bench press (which will also work more triceps).

							-Adam

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From: IA00078@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Robert Cryan Jr.)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: need info on depression & lack of outside exercise
Date: 5 Apr 92 20:02:34 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System


In article <12319@umd5.umd.edu>, silver@woodstock.umd.edu (Adam Silver) says:
>
>In article <2605@spool.mu.edu> tomb@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Tom Baas) writes:
>>Is there a relationship between depression and the lack of outside exrecise?
>>Can anyone tell me if there is a sceintificly proven relationship?
>
>[stuff deleted]
>
>exercise for a long time.  I became excessively depressed over it, but I'm
>getting over it partly because I have been able to start lifting again.  I can
>only say that I beleive that someone who really likes exercising would be more
>effected by a lack of exercise than someone that has never exercised before.
>
>                                                        -Adam

I agree that if you were exercising and stopped for some reason it can
cause depression.  I started lifting in at 17 and by 19 I was in the U.S.
Marines when I got out, at 23, after four years of living in the gym I
stopped.  I started college and either didn't have the time or the money
to continue.  No matter how I did in school I felt like I was missing
something.  I'm 26 and have been back lifting for only five weeks but it
has made a big difference.  I feel better about my self even if I'm not
as strong or look as good as I did 3 years ago.

As for the flame... I don't think it would be necessary.  This is a valid
topic.  As exercise enthusiasts we should think about how exercise has
changed our minds, moods, personalities, and outlook on life.  For me it
has been for the better.  If exercise is something emotionally fulfiling
then the lack of it might not be beneficial.


Rob
From: yali@bnr.ca (Yawar Ali)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Back Thickness
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:38:56 GMT
Reply-To: yali@bnr.ca (Yawar Ali)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA


In article <1992Apr14.220122.2145@stat.appstate.edu>, grs02502@stat.appstate.edu writes:

|> about how many reps.  It comes down to this...higher reps build muscle but not
|> necessarily strength.  Lower reps build strength but not necessarily muscle. 

Naively, one would expect a strong (positive) correlation between muscle mass
and strength. Is this incorrect?

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From: silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Help
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:55:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <247@esquire.dpw.com> danbrown@mis1.UUCP (Daniel Brown) writes:

>     Well here is my problem I have these ugly stretch
>marks and I would like to get rid of them if anyone
>out there know how I can do this please e-mail me.

Sorry Buddy, you're stuck with them for the rest of your life.  Stretch marks
are permananent, but you can hide their ugliness a little by tanning them.
Vitamin E man help a little, but I doubt it.  To prevent them from spreading,
use Vitamin E on them.  Get a bottle of Vitamin E.  Take a pin and puncture
a hole in the capsule.  Rub the fluid inside the capsule on the effected
areas.  Rub Vitamin E anywhere you think stretch marks are starting to
appear.  Some people say to use Zinc Oxide.  I don't know the effectiveness
of this.  Also, there is Thimulcase (sp?) that is sold by some distributors
in muscle mags.  This stuff is supposed to help with stretch marks.

							-Adam

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From: harvey@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Betty Harvey)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Metabolism Query
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:23:02 GMT
Reply-To: harvey@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Betty Harvey)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In misc.fitness, brian@thor.scs.uiuc.edu (Brian Eugene Ackerson) writes:
>
>     How often do you jog or cycle in a week?  Right now, I use a Lifecycle
>for 30 min Mon-Fri and run 30 min on Sat and Sun.  I also lift weights
>Mon-Fri.  This may sound crazy, but maybe you should eat more.  It's hard
>to tell without knowing you.  If you eat more, I think the body would be
>willing to part with a few more of those fats if the body knows it is going
>to be fed soon and well.

I jog or bicycle everyday 7 days a week.  I haven't tried lifting weights.


>     I was able to raise my metabolism by eating well and often, lifting
>weights, and doing aerobic exercise.  Before I did this, I ate a "normal"
>diet and had excess fat.  Now I eat +4000 cal/day and I can't gain weight.
>
I can't even think about eating 4000 calories.  My usual day intake
is 1 bagel for breakfast, Tossed salad or non-fat frozen yogurt for lunch
and a light dinner.  I usually skip dinner 2-3 times a week and eat
popcorn.  I am not overweight anymore but would like to go back to eating
normally again.
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From: lantin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Maria Lantin)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Quick! Help!
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:19:50 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

In article <1992Apr10.154720.14450@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> lkoh@elman.austin.ibm.com (Lisa Koh) writes:
>My neck has been killing me since i got up this morning...
>intense pain when i tilt my head....
>help !   what should i do??
>
  DON'T TILT YOUR HEAD!!!!!

                  			Maria
From: kossa@B.O.S. (Marc Kossa)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Heavy curls
Date: 15 Apr 92 08:35:19 GMT


  I'd like to know what kind of strenth can be obtained on Barbell Curls
for biceps. Is is something like half of what you can do on Bench Press ?
Or is it better related to chins behind the neck ?
  BTW, is there any truth in the fact that some guys can curl up to 300 lbs
for reps ? This seems an awful lot to me !!
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From: wazir@einstein.eds.com (Deborah Wazir)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: When to resume exercise?
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:37:06 GMT
Organization: EDS/TSD - Troy, MI

Sorry for this simplistic question, but I'm not sure what to do.

I'm just getting over a bad cold and sore throat.  I stopped aerobic exercise
for a week and my sore throat is gone, but I'm still coughing a lot.  So should
I hold off longer or am I just being a wimp, as my husband claims?

I had a baby 3 months ago and I need to lose about 30lbs of "baby fat", so I
want to exercise; I just don't want to get sick again.  It seems like every
time I start an exercise program I get sick or injured, and my husband thinks I
just use that as an excuse.  So, if I'm only going to be *uncomfortable*, I
don't mind starting the aerobics back up.
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From: silver@woodstock.umd.edu (Adam Silver)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: STEROIDS!  (Read)
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:18:41 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

A few people have asked me if I've ever juiced before.  NO!  I never have had
the experience.  I also probably can never have the experience after the
injury I suffered.  You probably know the story.  Tore the rotator cuff and
biceps tendon.  Steroids work on muscles, not tendons.  The muscles get big
quickly and the tendons sometimes can't compensate, so they tear.

Much of my knowledge comes from a steroid study I'm running on campus.  I'm
using real steroid users and comparing them to weight lifters (i.e. max lifts,
measurements, etc.) over cycling periods.  Also, some good sources are
THE ANABOLIC REFERENCE GUIDE and THE UNDERGROUND STEROID USER'S HANDBOOK II.

							-Adam

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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Kathi Iannamico)
Subject: Re:snoozing after eating
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 16:49:27 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Originator: kji@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU

I have heard that the calories will still be burned, regardless of the amount
of time of sleep, but the elapsed time before burning the calories will
vary according to sleep habits.

So, besides sleeping after a meal being unhealthy in other ways, it does not
affect calorie burn.  If I ate 5 pieces of pizza, then went to bed, I would
burn those calories the next afternoon, so I've heard.

Also, since vegetables and noodles contain no fat, I wonder how can those 
sumos gain weight.  You'd think they'd eat McDonald's burgers and 
refried beans.(I was very shocked to read on the label that they contain
lard.)
From: wood@kong.siemens.com (Jim Wood)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Abdominal Workouts
Date: 14 Apr 92 01:38:42 GMT

apr92_20@doe.carleton.ca (Anand Raju (Temporary Account 97.589)) writes:

>A friend lent me a booklet called "Legendary Abs"...a series of exercises for
>firming up the abs.  I've been doing it for a few weeks now with aerobic 
>workouts and have been getting so-so results.  My question: the booklet 
>recommends doing the abdominal exercises 2 or 3 times a week.  Would I get
>results faster if I increase it to every day?  I can see why working out
>other day is preferred if you want to increase muscle mass, but these exercises
>are to tone rather than build.

I do abdominals 5-6 days per week religiously, and my goal is to *tone*
rather than to build mass.  For toning there should be no restriction to
every other day, unless you just plain don't want to do it!

Jim Wood [wood@siemens.siemens.com] (609) 734-3643
  "Even if complaints about man-bashing in this film were 99% true, it still
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Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Wednesday, 15 Apr 1992 09:59:04 EDT
From: <34RIPSE@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Popping my joints
 <6230036@hpwrce.HP.COM>

I can give you a bit of data for thought.  In the third grade I sprained
my right ankle and since then it has cracked/popped.  This last year I
sprained my left ankle and now it too cracks.  Net result is that I sound
like branches breaking when I jog until I am warmed up.  I am reading up
on this but have not found an adequate cure.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: stgprao@xing.unocal.com (Richard Ottolini)
Subject: Re: re:how many calories
Originator: stgprao@xing
Organization: Unocal Corporation, Anaheim, California
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 14:34:01 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.170400.2159@stat.appstate.edu> grs02502@stat.appstate.edu writes:
>  If you have a thyroid disfunction, that is one thing.  But, I think it is
>becoming apparent to the public now...DIETS DO NOT WORK!! THEY NEVER HAVE AND
>THEY NEVER WILL!!!  You have to give your body food and exercise to take off
>the excess bodyfat.  If you go into a negative calorie defecit by dieting, YOUR
>METABOLISM   W I L L   SLOW DOWN.  You have to eat enough food to stay at a
>neutral calorie level (not gaining or losing weight), and use exercise to take
>off body fat.

I think they do work depending on how one defines a diet.  The ones that
require a short-term drastic change in diet fail because people return to
old habits.  The moderate, permanent changes in eating habits succeed, but
may take years to be fully effective.  Americans have to have instant success,
so they choose patterns that will fail.
From: jblst5@icarus.lis.pitt.edu (Jan B Larsen)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Calves (was Re: Lat pulldowns (was Re:
Date: 12 Apr 92 00:55:32 GMT
Reply-To: jblst5@icarus.lis.pitt.edu
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article 17621@athena.mit.edu, poo@athena.mit.edu (Claude Poux) writes:
:In article <Apr.8.10.35.07.1992.7249@remus.rutgers.edu: clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long) writes:
::In article <1992Apr6.235604.9901@nic.umass.edu:, Richard Muller writes:
::
::: My calves measure about 15" ( a little more right now, but it's only
::: an hour after a hard leg workout) which isn't particularly massive,
::: even on my 5'10" 165# frame.
::
::Well, my calves are 18", which is about right since I'm 5'10" 240#
::(15*sqrt(240/165) ~ 18).  Considering that I haven't worked them
::properly in quite a long time (I suffered an ankle injury last summer),
::I should be able to build them to be over 20".
::
::-Chris
:
:yes, but chris, what is your bodyfat level, and what is your
:waistline?
:
:poo


My calves are 18" (cold), and I`m 6 feet, 205 lbs. When I was 250 lbs they were 
around 19.5". It's kind of strange, because I haven't trained calves in 3 months.

- Jan
From: terry@jgaltstl.UUCP (terry linhardt)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Let's Talk Protein
Date: 7 Apr 92 03:01:59 GMT
Organization: The Lafayette Group, St. Louis, MO.

In article <92096.162049IA00078@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, IA00078@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Robert Cryan Jr.) writes:
> 
> 
> In article <1992Apr3.165228.12825@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, nelson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
> (Charles Nelson) says:
> >
> >The May issue of _Running Times_ has an article about the
> >protein needs of runners (endurance athletes). I forget the
> >details but I remember the author saying that runners
> >need more protein than weightlifters. If I remember correctly
> >weightlifters were said to need 1.75 ounces of protein per
> >100 lbs. of bodyweight. And runners were said to need 2.5
> >ounces of protein per 100 lbs. of bodyweight.
> 
> 
> What is meant by 1.75/2.5 ounces of protein?  How does that translate
> to grams?
> 
> Or am I just way out in left field.

I saw the article also, and thought it was a mistake to quote things
in terms of ounces, since everything is generally quoted in grams.
However......

		  1000 grams = 1 kilogram

		  1 kilogram = 2.2 pounds

		  2.2 pounds = 35.2 ounces (16 ounces/pound)

		  Therefore, one ounce =  28.4 grams

 I welcome any corrections to my math.   :-)



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From: IA00078@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Robert Cryan Jr.)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Hot Stuff questions
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:45:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: MAINE.92100.134512IA00078
Organization: University of Maine System


I have a some questions about the product (suppliment) Hot Stuff.  I do
not take any suppliments other than a very light multi vitamin so my
experience with the latest stuff is limited.

     1.  Has anyone had good or bad results using it?

     2.  What is in it?

     3.  Does anyone have any Medical/Professional literature on it?
         Or has any reputable source reviewed/tested it?


Please E-Mail your responses.  I will summerize and post.

Thanks in advance.

Rob


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From: SSDC2@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (J Green)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: slim shake, NOT!  (calorie bloopers
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:44:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucbvax.9204141433.AA18423

>From: bagdy@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Mark Bagdy)
>>>>>>> 1 * 8 =    8 calories from fat
>           ^
>SHOULDN'T THIS BE A NINE (9)??

yea, i think you are correct.
(which would only make the total calories on the label MORE wrong! ;-)
i tend to confuse the 9 and 8 (calories per gram for fat and alcohol).

to the others who asked, yes there are 4 calories per gram of protein and
4 calories per gram of carbohydrate.

Janice"sorry for the confusion"G

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From: lkoh@elman.austin.ibm.com (Lisa Koh;Austin)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: My aerobics teacher can't follow the music
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:44:46 GMT
Reply-To: ...@cs.utexas.edu:ibmaus!auschs!YOURCOMPUTER.austin.ibm.com!YOURLOGIN
Organization: IBM Austin, TX


Got a little problem w/ my aerobics teacher

she's great and all that, but quite often she doesn't follow the beat &
goes too fast or too slow

this bothers the hell out of me and i usually ignore her and stay with the
music even thought the whole class is going w/ the instructor

am i stubborn or rude for doing this?  if you're an aerobics instructor,
please tell me if it bothers you at all when someone in the class does
their own thing like this, or even starts doing their own exercises if
they don't like yours (which i also do a lot)

thanks in advance

lisa koh

hook 'em horns!!