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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 92 13:13:14 EST
From:         Dorothy Day <DAY@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: NBI Prices, revised

An addition to Robert Braham's excellent list of NB pricing:

Where reference is made to "Lingua alone," note that Lingua
requires an *existing* copy of NB4; it is a modification to NB4,
not a standalone. Thus,

*New packages with academic discount*
NB4:                       $179
Lingua alone:              $169
	*is the same as *
NB4, *no* Orbis, Lingua:   $299

(such a deal--but not as good as upgrading from NB3 to NB4 at $129,
and you decide to make the plunge to Lingua at $169, for a
total of $298, but also including Orbis in the upgrade)

*New packages without academic discount*
NB4:                        $449
Lingua alone:               $299
	*is the same as *
NB4, *no* Orbis, Lingua     $748

(not such a deal--clearly this is not being pitched at the
non-academic market)

Dorothy Day, Indiana University
Bitnet: DAY@IUBACS
Internet: day@ucs.indiana.edu
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Pricing of NBI products, November 11, 1992
  (courtesy of Robert Braham)

NBI Informatics
285 West Broadway
Suite 600
New York, NY  10013

Local voice #:      (212) 334-0445
Out-of-NYC voice #: (800) 969-6922
Fax #               (212) 334-0845

--"Academic" discounts applies to faculty, (staff?), and students
--NB3.x is not sold anymore

*No academic discount on upgrades*
Upgrade (always includes Orbis) from NB3 to NB4:    $129
Upgrade from NB3 and sls to NB4, Orbis, and Lingua: $229
Ibid, with either of these two upgrades:            $109
---Add $15 shipping for all _upgrade_ packages---

---NB:Lingua, Orbis will only work with NB4---

*New packages with academic discount*
NB4:                       $179
NB4, Orbis:                $259
NB4, *no Orbis*, Ibid:     $259
NB4, *no* orbis, Lingua:   $299
Lingua alone:              $169
Ibid alone:                $129
NB4, Orbis, Lingua:        $378
NB4, Orbis, Lingua, Ibid   $459

*New packages without academic discount*
NB4:                        $449
NB4, Orbis:                 $648
Lingua alone:               $299
Ibid alone:                 $199
NB4, *no* Orbis, Lingua     $748
NB4, Orbis, Lingua:         $947
NB4, Orbis, Lingua, Ibid:   $1146

No discounts on the following:

Dictionaries (Spellcheckers)@$69
IbidPlus                    $49
---Shipping costs included on new packages---
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Robert (Braham) and list

	Then mine's prerelease!  There's definitely a line in one of the custom
related files that says some defaults can't be changed.
	However as I said to Janice (I think) it varies with versions - I had to get my
 master disks replaced - , installations, maybe the weather... .
	Maybe we should (people like Franscisco & me) get on to NBI
about this, though, I speak as one awaiting a NECP6 amended driver... .
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F3, as indicated in the keyboard help screens, and the changes manual.

Robert Lavenda          lavenda@msus1
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From: firey@epas.utoronto.ca (A. Firey)
Subject: fc, fr, and ms preview? 
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:01:11 GMT


While text preceded by centering and flush right deltas appears
centered and on the right side of the screen, respectively, the
codes sending instructions to my printer seem to be reversed.  I
suppose I can adapt to this quirk, but I would prefer to fix it.
Can someone tell me in which file these lines occur, and how to
recognise them?

Also, is it possible to preview a manuscript file?

Thanks for your help!

Abigail Firey
Centre for Medieval Studies, University of Toronto
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Subject: Re: Cellular Table Bug?
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In Message Sun, 8 Nov 92 08:27:18 EST,
  Tom Schlesinger <tos@OZ.PLYMOUTH.EDU> writes:
>supposedly finished product, when my QRG only has 82 pages!

Tom,
   Sounds like you got short-changed.  I got my NB4 pretty late too, but my
QRG has 138 pages...
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From:         "Paul J. Bodin" <pjb3@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Ibid and accents
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In regard to Wayne Meeks' problems with Ibid:

It seems to me that forcing storage of the .DAT files in compressed
(i.e., non-expanded form) is the wrong approach.  The only way I know
of to get characters with diacriticals on the search line for Ibid is
with the compose key (F6), which makes the expanded type characters.
Consequently I would think the way to make them searchable would be to
store the .DAT files in expanded form and reindex!

Sorry this is all speculation, for although my Ibid database contains
diacriticals they are not among the searchable fields at this time so
I can't try it out.  Note the the reindexing after converting the
files above is critical--the index files must be made aware of the
presence of the expanded diacritical characters.

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Paul J. Bodin                         Internet: pjb3@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
Union Theological Seminary               smail: 435-52nd Street
(718) 439-3549                                  Brooklyn, NY 11220
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From:         GLDBRGJO@NYUACF.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Inserting IBID citations into footnotes
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Gerald,
Perhaps you need to go into Ibid's utility menu and reset in-text to do
citations in your footnotes.  Though it sounds strange maybe something caused
this setting to change, the Gremlins of NB or somesuch.

Yechiel Goldberg
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From:         Joel Lidov <JBLQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Toshiba 321 driver
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              6 Nov 92 08:13:14 EST from <HOLSCHUH@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>


The problem with the toshiba's top margin is a real annoyance, but the
best solution is by hand:  when you feed in the paper by pulling the
paper bail back, KEEP IT BACK and roll the paper down by hand until the
top edge is level with the print head.  After you start the print job
and the paper rolls up a few lines, snap the paper bail back.  If you
don't tear off the last sheet between jobs, you don't have to do this
again.  All other solutions only work if you never want to alter the
size of the top margin to less than the automatic feed or they create
other problems.  If you set TP to 0, you are tricking the program into
thinking that the top margin of p. 2 is the bottom margin of p. 1:  a
potential problem.

The command to have the printer set the top margin is probably the old
TF default, undocumented since ver. 1 when it interfered with footnotes.
It can probably be put in NBCUSTOM or in the printer table, but it
assumes that the top margin will always be the amount set on the
printer.  If you want, e.g., a 3-line top margin follwed by a header
with one printed line and two blank, you'll have to use the manual trick
anyway.  So the easiest thing is to get used to playing with the paper every
time you load and start:  that always works.

Joel Lidov
Queens College CUNY
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From:         "Sarah L. Higley" <slhi@TROI.CC.ROCHESTER.EDU>
Subject:      Hoochee Wawa!
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I suppose this orgastic effect can't be got with a plain black and white
VGA monitor?  I'll rush back home and see what shades of gray my
computer yields, but I'm afraid that, like Case in _Neuromancer_, my
computer's nervous system just won't respond to "hexadrons."  Sigh.
Back to "ov,r,l."

Sal
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From:         M.E.Bennun@CEN.EX.AC.UK
Subject:      Spelling checker problems (was Jonagold)
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              92 6:12 am

To start with (a problem follows below)......

Robert Braham wrote........
>
>
> >From: M.E.Bennun@CEN.EX.AC.UK
>
> >I'd love to try  [Jonagolds]
> >... apples are one of my three favourite fruits.... the
> >Lord has cursed me with an inability to eat enough avocados and guavas
> >also.... it's an added twist to the problems of exile!
>
> Allusion check: are you referring to exile from S.Africa?

From South Africa - the western Cape in particular....

>
> > . . . it starts raining later in
> >the morning, usually, so far...soft autumn colours and my sheep look
> >so calm in the mist.  Sometimes, I feel that the only place and time
> >there's peace is in my orchard in the early morning....
>
> Sounds lovely.  Real sheep?  Wow.

Yep. Real sheep - currently, a black and white Jacobs (see your Bible
for that allusion) and an ordinary Devon...
------------------------------------
And then the main issue......

I have been upgraded with 3.1 from 3.0, and am having a miserable time
with my spelling checker. According to the documentation, the default
dictionary is the US one, and one thus changes to the UK English one
with F1-O-S-D-P-U. The alternative is to put a line as suggested into
startup.int; this copies an editor overlay and apparently loads it,
and I have done this.

My problem is that loading the UK dictionary is rickety and unstable.
It gets easily upset or does not seem to load properly, with the
corruption of spelling checker help screens. The matter is quickly set
right by Esc-aping out of the spelling-check session, running
F1-O-S-D-P-U, and resuming. More seriously, it seems to be linked with
total lockups when a single word is questioned with Ctrl-?.

Please - is there something special and distinctive about startup.int
or default.set with NB 3.1 when the non-default dictionaries are
loaded? Or the configuration of memory (files? buffers? of which I
have ensured a great many to be available?). I'm running DOS 5 - is
there something which should NOT be load(ed)high for 3.1 purposes? My
instinct is that there is a simple answer....

 ---------------
Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
Phone: (+44) (0) 392 263 161
Postal Address: Amory Building, Rennes Drive, Exeter EX4 4RJ, Devon, U.K.
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From:         Stephen Davison <davison@BMF.USC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Shift-F7
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Sarah:
Open and close deltas with F3

Stephen Davison
davison@usc.edu
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 92 17:08:18 MET
From:         Paul Chandler <U251026@HNYKUN11.BITNET>
Subject:      NB4 problems
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Despite some major and minor difficulties and much lost time installing
and configuring, I'm basically very happy with NB4+Lingua+Orbis+Ibid.
But some erratic behaviour puzzles me:

1) Changing printers: If a printer is installed and I change it (F1 -
P - Activate printer) I *sometimes* get the error message "No fonts
defined in printer table" and must quit and restart NB to activate
a different printer.

2) Weird things in Ibid: Ibid. mostly works OK, but unpredictably
Ctrl+F6 or menu equivalent brings up the Directory options menu
(with a default directory L, which doesn't exist). Thereafter it's
impossible to access Ibid. with either Ctrl+F6 or the menu. This has
happened several times, but I don't know why or after what foolishness
on my part.

3) Memory management seems bizarre. On my system I start with about
250 K, sometimes more, sometimes less (as seen in F7 screen).
However memory seems to disappear for no good reason and cannot be
got back. Where does it go and how do you entice it back?

4) Network printing: On our network NB will only print if and when
I quit NB. This is possible, but I don't want to be a quitter.

5) Missing fonts: I seem to remember from the subscription brochure
so long ago that there were Univers fonts promised for Lingua.
Maybe there was even an 11-point font. Or was the wish father to
the thought?

6) I've tried running NB and Lingua with WordCruncher under
Desqview, but NB seems to interfere with the screen fonts in
WC. In Lingua mode WC runs as hieroglyphics. Does anyone know
what settings must be changed? I've tried everything I can think of.

7) Does anyone have a fax or e-mail number for the people who
distribute Lbase?

Paul Chandler
Titus Brandsma Instituut, Nijmegen, Netherlands
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From:         M.E.Bennun@CEN.EX.AC.UK
Subject:      RE: Jonagold
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              92 11:05 am

Robert Braham wrote........
>
>
>
> >National Supermarkets in Southern Illinois has had Jonagolds
> >for several weeks, and we have some downstairs right now.
>
> >                        Geoff Nathan and Maggie Winters
>
> So, waddya think of them? Would Mervyn like them, do you
> suppose?
>

I'd love to try... apples are one of my three favourite fruits.... the
Lord has cursed me with an inability to eat enough avocados and guavas
also.... it's an added twist to the problems of exile!

I'm going out in the early mornings to pick up Blenheim windfalls from
the dewy grass for the day's sustenance.... it starts raining later in
the morning, usually, so far...soft autumn colours and my sheep look
so calm in the mist.  Sometimes, I feel that the only place and time
there's peace is in my orchard in the early morning....
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Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
Phone: (+44) (0) 392 263 161
Postal Address: Amory Building, Rennes Drive, Exeter EX4 4RJ, Devon, U.K.
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Subject: Lingua brackets and footnotes
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:34:44 GMT
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Has anyone had difficulty creating brackets [    ];
they refuse to emerge for us..


ANd 2. Has anyone been having difficulty w/Lingua footnotes?
Sometimes they appear in reverse Hebrew, sometimes in Greel symbols,
etc.
what are we doing wrong?

many thanks

Renee Levine MElammed
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 92 11:57:09 -0600
From:         Kenneth Salzberg <ksalzber@HAMLINE.EDU>
Subject: Re: NB4 problems
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I can only offer some help with "3) Memory management seems bizarre." and
>6) I've tried running NB and Lingua with WordCruncher under
>Desqview, but NB seems to interfere with the screen fonts in
>WC. In Lingua mode WC runs as hieroglyphics. Does anyone know
>what settings must be changed? I've tried everything I can think of.

When your memory changes are odd, go to an open window (not sure if this
is necessary, but why worry) and type F9 func me F10.  You will get a screen
that tells you what stuff is loaded, how much memory it takes up, and gives
you the option of unloading it.

When running lingua (or any ascii+italics+ or any other non-plain ascii),
before you switch windows in DV, to load WC, or before running it inside
of NB, if that's what you're doing, hit Ctrl+Alt+Esc to "unload" the lingua
(or other) font control.  Then go to the DV menu, switch windows, run your
other programs, and, when back in NB, hit Ctrl+Esc, reloading lingua.

--Ken Salzberg
ksalzber@hamline.edu
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 92 08:59:17 IST
From:         "J-P Takala, University of Helsinki,
              Sociology" <JTAKALA@FINUHA.BITNET>
Subject:      Nicolai's XPL
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Nicolai,
Funny, I had no problem running your program:

  TF <<lbCon1>>BC se \Subject:      \XC
  <<if<<er>>>><<ex>><<ei>>GT DF LE DF M2 XD<<glCon1>>

(although I deleted the 6 spaces in \Subject:\).  Maybe try
adding a YD somewhere before the first DF (although M2 should
also cancel, maybe it doesn't in your configuration, for some
curious reason).

> What is wrong with the syntax? Its problem is that it
> does not bold-face just the particular line but the
> whole file.

j-p takala
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From:         "Itamar Even-Zohar,
              Porter Chair of Semiotics" <B10@TAUNIVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Lingua brackets and footnotes
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Unfortunately, the style delta for footnote (FM1..., FM2) does not
control the footnote language. This is what it SHOULD HAVE DONE.
You can of course put LA=4, LR=0 in the FM delta, but it won't
work unless you manually insert LA4 in the footnote itself.
Moreover, the LA4 code must precede the RP delta in the footnote.
RP is used in NB 4.0 to virtually control spaces after the call
number. This is a much more sophisticated method than the older
actual small dot or full dot. RP is automatically inserted, but
it becomes valid only if RT= is defined in the FM delta. For instance,
RT=7 will insert one space. If the RP, which implements the parameter
defined by RT=, is inserted BEFORE the language delta, in the Hebrew
case the space occurs BEFORE the call number, not AFTER it.

I hope I have not complicated matters too much.

By the way, if you are ineterested in the various RT /RP options
(the same relation now takes place in TOCs), the parameters
are defined on extended phrases 900-930 odd. For instance,
RT=7 will implement the signs saved on phrase 907. For a list
of all extended phrases see NB-XPL01.ZIP.

Itamar E-Z
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From:         "Gerald W. Schlabach" <GSCHLABA@IRISHVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Inserting IBID citations into footnotes
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On Sun, 8 Nov 92 01:59:34 IST <GLDBRGJO@NYUACF> said:
>Gerald,
>Perhaps you need to go into Ibid's utility menu and reset in-text to do
>citations in your footnotes.  Though it sounds strange maybe something caused
>this setting to change, the Gremlins of NB or somesuch.
>
>Yechiel Goldberg

Yes, this did the trick.   Thanks.
From: pjb3@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Paul J. Bodin)
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Subject: European Characters
Date: 11 Nov 92 03:54:15 GMT
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A post-scriptum for Pieter Villiers:

By the way, you might want to check the key assignments listed on the
"European Characters" screen of the Help section of the menu--the
shortcut keys for these characters may be more convenient than you think.

___________________________________________________________________________
Paul J. Bodin                         Internet: pjb3@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
Union Theological Seminary               smail: 435-52nd Street
(718) 439-3549                                  Brooklyn, NY 11220
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From:         "Thomas B. Settle" <TSETTLE@POLYVM.BITNET>
Subject:      A sort of theological issue
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  Excuse the intrusion, but I thought that since we were exchanging
bibliographies in religious and theological history a particular request
might be allowed.  --  Two Saturdays ago, in a meeting that included ates a
prelates and television cameras, the Pope read a declaration *absolving*
Galileo and, according to the Italian press, the Inquisition.  The event
was little and incompetently covered in the American press; the Italian press
press gave more but incomplete coverage.  --  Two documents are important:
1. the final report of the Papal Commission, headed by Card. Paul Poupard,
which has been investigating the case for the last 13 years; and 2. the
text of the Pope's own declatation.  Has anyone seen full, printed
versions of these documents?  Perhaps some of our Italian colleagues?  I
would very much appreciate citations.

  Tom Settle
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Date: 9 Nov 92 17:45:59 GMT
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I finally realized that this key sequence was bringing up the CMOS set-up
screen on my computer, in Hebrew characters, and with its own keyboard
control (usually leading to reboot).  Putting 'ni' into the keyboard
table cured the problem, and has eliminated one of the mysterious sources of
mis-typing disasters.
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Subject:      Re: NY Times, Carolyn Heilbrun, Nota Bene
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              9 Nov 92 21:33:19 EST from <HAMMER@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>

Does Heilbrun use Lingua with Hebrew?

  Aaron Schart
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