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From: clements@bbn.com (Bob Clements)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Beatles info archive site?
Date: 31 Dec 92 14:46:57 GMT
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In article <1992Dec30.032834.11278@galaxia.network23.com>,
 dave@galaxia.network23.com (David H. Brierley) writes:
>At one point I seem to recall that someone had a whole bunch of Beatles
>info files available either for ftp or some archive server.  I don't
>seem to have saved a copy of the message and I don't know if it's even
>still valid.  Would anyone who knows of such a site please let me know
>where the site is and how I access it?

I suspect this is referring to my PC, bobcat.bbn.com (128.89.2.103).
It is described in the monthly "welcome" message that saki posts,
which should be out any day now. (Happy new year, and all that.)
bobcat (BOB Clements's pc/AT) is accessible by anonymous FTP,
but not by email.  There are ftpmail servers out there, but I don't
have the details.

>In particular, I am looking for
>a discography listing all Beatles/John/Paul/George/Ringo albums along
>with their original release dates.

I don't have such a listing, sorry.  If anyone has one (or
anything else that's legal, i.e., no "lyrics" files) that they
would like me to include, please let me know and I'll add it.

[And yes, I'm kinda behind in updating the directory of Alan's
"Notes On Xxx".  I hope to get to it in the next week.]

>David H. Brierley
>Home: dave@galaxia.network23.com; Work: dhb@quahog.ssd.ray.com

Bob Clements, K1BC, clements@bbn.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: stevedc@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Stephen Carter)
Subject: Re: Interesting Articles
Organization: University of Sussex
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 22:32:32 GMT

slchb@cc.usu.edu wrote:
: After my last post I received a number of questions about how the CD's were
: produced (mixed).  A couple of years ago I did a research paper about the
: Beatles and their influence on American culture.  I came across a number of
: interesting articles about different Beatles topics.  If you are interested
: in the sources just E-mail me and I will send the citations.  Most of the
: articles should be available on microfilm in your University libraries.  The
: topics ranges from the CD's, to Jackson aquiring the Beatles songs rights, to
: Billy Joel's ten favorite Beatles songs, to Sgt. Pepper revisited.  Cheers!
: IN%"slchb@usu.edu"


May I respectfully suggest that this material would be an excellent
FAQ for this learned newsgroup...

Stephen Carter, Systems & Operations Manager, Computing Services, 
 University of Sussex, Brighton BN1 9QJ, UK
  JANET        : S.Carter@uk.ac.sussex.central
"Nothing is Beatle Proof!"
From: rbakker@nl.oracle.com (Rick Bakker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Box set bargains
Date: 28 Dec 92 13:38:19 GMT
Reply-To: rbakker@nl.oracle.com (Rick Bakker)
Organization: /etc/organization

On a recent NorthWest Airlines flight I saw in their in-flight magazine an
ad from Capitol Records (? - I may be mistaken) offering the Beatles box
set (British LPs, 16 in all including Past Masters I & II) for just under
US$200. This comes to $12.50 per CD, the postage and handling of $14 (for
Europe) pushes the price up to $13.50. This is a heck of a lot cheaper than
in England, where I think I remember seeing it go for 200 pounds (> $300).
I never did cut out the ad, but since I'm getting a second chance soon I was
wondering if anyone can tell me if it really is a bargain. What's the cheapest
it's sold for before? I've been putting off buying any Beatle CDs in the past 
just in the hope that I'd be able to get a cheap box set or the CD prices would
plummet but neither has happened.

Help me ooooh.

Rick.
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: bml@netcom.com (Brian Leibowitz)
Subject: Smothers Brothers
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:48:52 GMT

I just read that the cable channel E! is going to start braodcasting
the old Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour reruns starting Jan. 4.
In the article, it mentions that the Beatles were guests on one show!
I never heard of this performance; anyone know what they did.

It looks like E! is going to do it right-they are letting the Smothers
Brothers host the reruns with a short discussion of the show, who the
guests were, what was happening in the country at the time, and some
of the guests will return to share memories after the rerun.

Brian        I'm going to have to be nice to my friends who get cable.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
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From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk
To: usenet@phaze.cam.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: Harrison/McCartney

In article <randall.724550403@seashore> you write:
>In Macca's documentary about Buddy Holly (HIGHLY recommended), he
>plays the first part of "That'll Be The Day" on a record player.
>It sounds very scratchy- very poor technical quality, which is
>not surprising, since it was basically a "make a record of your
>voice" type record like you see at amusement parks.  I would imagine

This excerpt is available on the CD "The Quarrymen in Rehearsal, Spring
1960". You even hear Macca saying "That was the first record we ever 
made, in a little studio in Liverpool" over the top as it fades. 

So, at least you can get your hands (albiet illegally) on *part* of that
recording.

DISCLAIMER: Title of CD and Macca quote from memory, so they may not be
perfect.

Cheers,

Ross-c
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From: mcodogno@nyx.cs.du.edu (Maurizio Codogno)
Subject: Re: insanity
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	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 13:42:58 GMT

In article <BzJ1zq.AJJ@mtholyoke.edu> mdubey@MtHolyoke.edu (Mandakini Dubey) writes:
>
>I just rediscovered "You know my name (look up the number)" after a gap and
>wanted to register my love for it, officially. 
>		It's the greatest song ever made.
>
>(In my not-so-humble opinion!)

If I remember well, even John said so in an occasion... so your 
opinion needn't be humble :-)
 
Well, speaking about the past... I remember when my father bought me
the 45 of LIB/YKMN(lutn). My Beatles' exposition was limited to
the _Yellow Submarine_ cartoon and _Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da_ (I don't
remember about its B-side, which should have been _Old Brown Shoe_...
or I am deadly wrong? I don't collect 45s). Anyway, I appreciated 
very muck that funny song, even if I did not understand anything
- being a young 7 years old boy who knew no English at all.
 
Frohe Weihnachten! .mau.

--
ciao! .mau.
-----
Maurizio Codogno - CSELT UF/DU dept. - Torino Italy
"home" email: mau@beatles.cselt.stet.it
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From: canderso@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chuck Anderson)
Subject: Re: Sick cookie
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	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Reply-To: canderso@nyx.UUCP (Chuck Anderson)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 01:53:42 GMT

> trwagner@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Me!! Ted.) writes:

>	Anybody watch Chapman last night on Larry King? 

Yes.

>	He sat there calmly and described the murder in great detail
>as if he had read it from a novel.  I don't have any sympathy for
>a man or woman who can coldly murder someone, especially pumping
>lead into them when their back is turned, and blame it all on
>some book!

Just a clarification, especially for those who did not view this program.
Chapman very clearly and directly stated that he did not blame his actions 
on a book.  He even wrote a letter to the author (Salinger?) to apologize.
He made it very clear that he took personal responsiblity for his acts and 
placed no blame or responsibilty on anything or anyone else.

>	Chapman is a sickie.  I wouldn't think twice or be saddened
>in any form if the man came to a worse fate.  Maybe it is just that
>I feel like he shattered the music world and took from all of us
>not only John Lennon, but all hopes of the fab four living and singing
>well into their 60's and 70's.

That was some comment that the author of the book (what a f**ked up title!)
made about Chapman's motivation being that he wanted to hurt a lot of people.  
He'd also fantasized about getting hold of a nuclear weapon and setting it 
off in a major city.

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From: freewill@carson.u.washington.edu (William Kaufman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Beatles's Album Sales
Date: 30 Dec 1992 22:11:35 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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Maybe this is a FAQ, but does anyone have final sales figures on the
various Beatles' albums? I guess it's confusing because different 
albums were released in the US and UK and one may/may not want to in-
cluse the CD sales and see how they compare. But I assume one can 
determine the biggest seller since it's a later one, being the same
release in all countries.(?)   Thanks,    freewill






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From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk
To: usenet@phaze.cam.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: george, ringo, john, and ... buddy?

In article <1992Dec30.063247.28572@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> you write:
>the question is, what might have happened is buddy holly hadn't died in
>feb 1959?  my friend suggested that we would be talking about 'the
>american invasion' of british music, and the beatles would be 'just
>another local skiffle band with a local following.'  buddy holly,
[deleted]
>
>--hymie

The Beatles were extremely talented, extrememly hard working, and 
were prepared to keep working toward their goals ("The toppermost of the
poppermost") through years of setbacks. My belief is even had the situation
been different (e.g. Buddy Holly not died) they would still have made it big in
a different way.

Cheers,

Ross-c
Date: Wednesday, 30 Dec 1992 09:08:38 MST
From: <AOAFF@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Box set bargains

Just for reference, last years Noteworthy Music catalog lists a Beatles
black wooden box set with all 15 Capital CDs for $232.82. allen
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From: faciane@huey.met.fsu.edu (Dave Faciane)
Subject: Re: other strange things
Organization: Department of Meteorology
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 12:43:32 GMT

In article <Bzuv9x.CKH@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> jbmorris@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu
(Jeff Morris) writes: 
>Speaking of strange things in Beatles records, what about the 15KHz tone
>at the end of _Pepper_?  I keep hearing that it's supposed to be above
>the range of human hearing, and was put there for only dogs to hear.
>Well, last I checked, human hearing range is generally accepted to be
>20Hz-20KHz, so 15KHz IS in that range.  I hear the tone myself, both on
>the CD and the original LP.  Do most people hear it, or am I the only one?
>Why do they keep saying it can't be heard by humans?
>

Children can hear up to (and occasionally above) 20Khz. This ability
diminishes with age and, significantly, exposure to loud sounds, such
as SPLHCB with the volume turned to "11". A gradual loss of hearing
acuity with age is natural.

Eventually, the high end of the range decreases to less than 5 Khz or
so, which is when you have to start speaking up for the person, since
the hearing loss is beginning to impinge on the frequency range of the
human voice (centered around 1Khz).   

I hear a crackly sound at that point on SPLHCB, but to hear the tone 
I used to have to slow down the LP just a little. 


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From: dennis@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Dennis Alstrand)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 14:47:31 GMT
Subject: Re: The Beatles return (3/4)
Organization: the HP Mtn.View Resp. Cntr.
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles

In rec.music.beatles, hoffmann@rwzl01.zld.rws.nl (Rob Hoffmann) writes:


> No news in the FabFour group! Too bad, so try this....

> Some days ago, Paul announced that the Beatles will participate in
> a documentary project for the BBC (if I'm not mistaken). He mentioned
> the possibility of making music again and maybe "revive" the Beatles.
> Personally, I don't think new projects of the Beatles will do much
> good to their 'old' reputation. It's best to leave the old Lennon/
> McCartney work in peace. Anyone (dis-)agrees?

> Rob. 

I'm afraid you're in for a shellacking on this one, Rob. . .
From: sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Sgt. Kleper)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: CONFIRMED!
Date: 27 Dec 92 18:00:32 GMT
Reply-To: sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

I haven't been reading this group in a while, so I don't know
if this has already been said, but the remaining Beatles will
get together for a 10 hour documentary on the BBC and another
station in the US (A&E???), so start buying some tapes for 
your VCR's! I think it'll be next year, and it is uncertain
whether or not they will actually be performing together or
just talking about the Beatles. :-)

-Scott J Kleper
sjked@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Let Me Take You Down; Lennon & Chapman
Keywords: mind control
Date: 17 Dec 92 00:09:50 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

dincense@maths.tcd.ie (Jeffrey Crosbie) writes:


>My name is Jeffrey Crosbie<dincense@maths.tcd.ie>
>For several months I've been reading up on the murder of John
>Lennon.As everyone knows there are several books on the subject matter
>including the very recent "Let Me Take You Down"by an author 
>whose name totally evades me at this moment in time.One very good book
>was "The Murder Of John Lennon"by another author whose name evades
>me.He claimed that Mark Chapman had been singled out by the F.B.I
>and was subjected to "mind control".He was ,the writer claimed ,
>hypnotised into believing that lennon was a danger to the world
>and had to be disposed of before he twathed the minds of everyone.


I must once again recommend the Frontline documentary "The Man
Who Killed John Lennon."  You may want to call PBS- they have
a video 800 number.   The documentary is a VERY well-done one-hour
study into the mind of this deranged man.  It also talks in general
about people who stalk celebrities.  There has been NOTHING new about
the murder since this documentary aired in 1988.    The recent 20/20
interview of Mr. Chapman simply reiterated what the documentary
talked about.

Mr. Chapman was obsessed with the novel -The Catcher In The Rye-,
and for some reason, singled out Lennon as a "phony bastard."  
He did not believe that Lennon was a danger to the world.  The
notion that he was hired by the FBI is absurd.  The FBI would have
no reason to kill Lennon, especially in 1980.  


-- 

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Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: jbmorris@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jeff Morris)
Subject: Re: another cover...
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 04:40:43 GMT

"Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" by Bill Cosby!!

- Jeff ("Sing it children.", "I hope so." - Bill)
From: Patrick_Dubbrow@ms.maus.de (Patrick Dubbrow)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: other strange things
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 17:48:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet (Mitglied im IN e.V.)
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.14D/hb

J>Well, last I checked, human hearing range is generally accepted to be 20Hz-
J>20KHz, so 15KHz IS in that range.  I hear the tone myself, both on the CD
J>and the original LP.  Do most people hear it, or am I the only one?

No problem to hear it!

Regards

Patrick
From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Really bizarre GET BACK take
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:50:33 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

barash@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. Steven Barash; MATH (GRAD)) writes:


>I recently rediscovered a profoundly weird take I have of the Beatles doing 
>the song Get Back, and I wonder if any of you RMBers have heard it or can tell 
>me anything about it.  

This is one of the "recordings" (I use the term loosely) from
the film sessions at Twickenham in January 1969.   There are reels and
reels of material from these rehearsals, much of which has shown up
on bootlegs for about 20 years.  The most recent one I saw was a
3-CD collection from the Blue Kangaroo bootleg label.  There is also
a 6-CD collection and many other bootlegs.   Most of the material is
terribly performed and of low technical quality.  That is no
criticism of the Beatles- it was all rehearsal stuff anyway.  None of it
was properly recorded, as Lewisohn points out.  Don't waste your
money on them.

Macca has been accused of racism because of his remarks about the
Pakastanis.  I think this is unfair because the recording is
from a rehearsal and sounds like he was making up words on the spot.

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From: dthompson@vixvax.mgi.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Those LDs
Date: 24 Dec 92 00:31:15 CDT
Organization: Management Graphics, Inc.

Jan Bielawski writes:

> 	Just wanted to correct myself: the John Lennon video collection *is*
> available on laserdisc in USA, I just saw it yesterday at Tower ($29).

I don't remember if this was mentioned yet: _The Beatles: The First U.S.
Visit_ ($40) and _Compleat Beatles_ ($30?). I just saw these today. Still
no sign of any of the theatrical releases on LD in my local stores.
"Local" = Minnesota, USA

Moko
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From: petex@cix.compulink.co.uk (Peter Christian)
Subject: Re: Beatles Lyrics
Reply-To: petex@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 00:27:00 +0000


TITLE: Beatles Lyrics

The are quite a lot of lyrics available by anonymous ftp from the
lyrics server at cs.uwp.edu. In the directory
/pub/music/lyrics/b/beatles you'll find the following:

     a_hard_days_night
     abbey.road
     all_ive_got_to_do
     all_my_loving
     all_you_need_is_love
     and_i_love_her
     baby_youre_a_rich_man
     babys_in_black
     back_in_the_ussr
     beatles.misc
     blackbird
     blue_jay_way
     cant_buy_me_love
     day_tripper
     dizzy_miss_lizzie
     do_you_want_to_know_a_secret
     dont_bother_me
     dont_let_me_down
     eight_days_a_week
     eleanor_rigby
     fool_on_the_hill
     girl
     good_day_sunshine
     hello_goodbye
     help
     hey_jude
     hold_me_tight
     how_do_you_do_it
     i_am_the_walrus
     i_dont_want_to_spoil_the_party
     i_saw_her_standing_there
     i_wanna_be_your_man
     i_want_to_hold_your_hand
     if_i_fell
     if_youve_got_troubles
     im_down
     im_looking_through_you
     in_my_life
     it_wont_be_long
     let.it.be
     little_child
     magical_mystery_tour
     michelle
     mister_postman
     money_thats_what_i_want
     no_reply
     not_a_second_time
     nowhere_man
     obladi_oblada
     octopuss_garden
     old_brown_shoe
     paperback_writer
     penny_lane
     please.please.me
     sgt.pepper
     she_loves_you
     strawberry_fields
     taxman
     the_night_before
     what_youre_doing
     white.album
     yesterday
     youre_going_to_lose_that_girl
     youve_got_to_hide_your_love_away

The titles with dots in are LP titles, underscores are song titles
(so let.it.be is the LP not the song).
I downloaded this list about a month ago, so it's fairly up to date.

Peter
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From: jpb@calmasd.Prime.COM (Jan Bielawski)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Beatlefest blows it!
Date: 31 Dec 92 01:26:43 GMT
Organization: Computervision, San Diego, CA

In article <1992Dec30.181717.8569@informix.com> lynns@informix.com (Lynn Schneider) writes:
<
<Well, I don't know how much money that Mark and Carol can afford to spend
<on a database system, but maybe it's time for them to look into a better
<solution than something like Filemaker Pro. Certainly, if their business
<is limited because of their computer system, it is holding them back!

	It's completely unrelated but while we are at it (telling Mark
and Carol how to run their business that is) how about asking
them to DUMP the film projectors at Beatlefests?  The prints they show
are usually in terrible condition -- they ought to switch to laser video
discs instead.  The cost of renting a combination of industrial projector
TV/laserdisc player + laserdiscs for 2 days is not sky high and I actually
have seen a projector TV there once but it was only used for some McCartney
solo videos.

	Jan Bielawski
	Computervision, San Diego
	jpb@calmasd.prime.com
From: edc@dna.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: May Pang revisited
Date: 22 Dec 1992 19:14:12 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
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Just saw a clip from last night's "A Current Affair."

May Pang, former Lennon employee -- and onetime Lennon lover
is releasing an updated version of her memoirs, formerly
titled _Loving John_.  Included in the book will be reproductions
of sketches and artwork John did during the so-called "lost weekend",
and gave to May.

My personal opinion of her book?   A worthwhile read, although 
somewhat unbelievable (and very definitely tainted by Miss Pang's
distaste for Yoko Ono).   Particularly annoying is May's tendency
to occasionally write like a bad romance novelist, and also and her 
tendency to become horribly over-dramatic.  Hopefully, the new 
edition will have a better editor / proofreader on board...

<ESC>
--
Something in the way she moves, attracts me like a pomegranate.
                                     -- George Harrison
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