From: assist@unocss.unomaha.edu ( )
Subject: Examples of MAJOR Lies (was rerpession of women
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:10:32 GMT


hossein@nu.Berkeley.EDU (Kal Hossein) writes:

>>Without taking sides, here is a number of observations I
>>have made:
>>News releases from the Mojahedin  about Iran has normally been
>>immediately confirmed/reported by the international media. Consider
>>for example the speedy news reports of the Mojahedin about the
>>protests and demonstrations in Arak, Shiraz, Mashhad, etc. They
>>were immediately reported in the world media.
>> ... <<Stuff deleted>>
>>And finally, to the best of my knowledge, no news item of the
>Mojahedin has been shown to be false.

>There are two interesting things about this user. 

>1. His lack of experience with reality.
>My friend, MKO has actively supported the invasion of Iran by Iraq and
>Saddam's regime.

Here is the first major lie. If you and anyone else could
support the above statement, I'll swear to the legitimacy
of the akhounds in Iran!

FYI, the Mojahedin fought the invading Iraqi army and gave many
martyrs. In fact, the major NLA hospital in Iran-Iraq border
is named after Dr. Tabatabaie who was martyred in the early days
of war when he was helping the wounded at the fronts. The Mojahed
newspapers of early 1360's is filled with articles about the war.

Furthremore, after the Iraqis were forced out of Iran in 1361,
the Mojahedin carried out a MAJOR campaign for peace, the result of
which has been volumes of books, journal articles, etc. These
are undeniable and proofs of what the Moajhedin have done for
peace.

Making such major falsifications is pretty good indicator of
your dishonesty and lack of creditability.

The above said, I turn to the rest of nonsense in your article:
(a) The number of women arrest being 100 per year and,
(b) the issue of imposing morality of "majority" on individuals.

First, are you an apologist for the regime? If yes, you are
not doing a good job and need further training. (See articles
by Mokhtarian, Behnam Sadeghi and Babak Separi for samples.)

Second, the word "arrest" came from the regime itself. The regime
also admits that they were handed to authorities. Here is the exact
sentence from the Jomhuri-eslami:

	... 
	``113 hezAr tan dar sal ghabl beh etehAme fesAd wa bad
	hejAbi dar keshvar DASTGIR wa beh marAje' ghazAiee
	moarefi shodehand.''

So what are you trying to justify?

Furthremore, if there were only one or two arrests each day (that
would stil average more than 100 a year), it would not require
"rehabilitation camps" and harsh punishment. Rafsanjani is a
pioneer in these fields:

	``We see that now these people need violence to some extent.
	The Supreme Judicial Council has drafted a bill which soon
	be sent to the Parliament. Accourding to this bill, camps are
	being built for rehabilitation of women who suffer from some
	degree of moral corruption. ... They will stay there at the
	expense of their husbands.''
	Rafsanjani, Friday prayer show, Regime TV, April 17, 1987
	(reprinted in Jomhuri-eslami)

Finally, threat against women doesn't come just from Khomeini,
Rahmani, Rafsnajnai, or Mohtashemi; it is the nature of akhounds
and akhoundism mentality. It doesn't have anything to do with
the morality of "majority." Certianly a woman who wears some
perfume, or chooses a slightly colorful cloth, or does not
fully cover all of her hair wont harm anyone's morality. Besides,
that is her individual right that must be respected. DO NOT attempt
do mix this issue with "morality of majority" to indirectly
apologize for the regime's barbaric behaviour.

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