HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: A grim death (was burger bar accidents)
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 13:30:24 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.092407.3776@tcom.stc.co.uk> tim@tcom.stc.co.uk (Tim Kennedy) writes:
>My dad worked in the steel mills of Scunthorpe as a student during his
>holidays,  and claimed to have witnessed a man falling into a vat of 
>molten iron and vapourising instantaneously.

Did he set off airport metal detectors afterwards?
-- 
Ted Frank          + "Question whether attorney's filing claim for 'stud fee'
1307 E 60 St, #109 +  as countersuit to paternity action was improperly
U o' C Law Skool   +  motivated required remand."  Headnote 9, Committee on
Chi, IL 60637      +  Legal Ethics of WVa State Bar v Douglas, 370 SE2d 325.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson)
Subject: Re: Why did the chicken cross the road?
Organization: Famed Parquet Floor
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 20:33:16 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.024034.25316@PA.dec.com> mikkelson@breakr.enet.dec.com (snopes) writes:
>
>According to Cecil, no turkeys, not even domesticated ones, are stupid
>enough to stand out in the rain and drown.  The domesticated ones are, however,
>indolent enough to allow their young, helpless chicks to drown rather than
>to escort them to safety.

I didn't think there was going to be any animal husbandry in this newsgroup.


>
>- snopes
>
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>| David P. Mikkelson             |  According to a recent study, sex has now  |
>| Digital Equipment Corporation  |  replaced smoking as the leading cause of  |
>| Culver City, CA  USA           |  statistics.                               |
>|                                |                                            |
>+--------------------------------+--------------------------------------------+


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|          "Everything not forbidden is compulsory"                         |
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From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Free magazine from subsription services.
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:14:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: dog.22590
Reply-To: twchan@.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Organization: Some Ungodly Hour Answering Service
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

In article <1723@israel.nysernet.org> warren@nysernet.org writes:

  +Warren "on the other hand, AFU really is free" Burstein

And you get what you pay for.


Terry "Keep that two-fifty coming in folks" Chan
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From: axd7104@acfcluster.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: California Uber Alles?
Date: 11 Apr 92 00:16:10 GMT
Organization: New York University

In article <1992Apr10.000155.1@vm2.cis.pitt.edu>, tjw@vm2.cis.pitt.edu writes:
> In article <1992Apr8.195352.1@acfcluster.nyu.edu>, axd7104@acfcluster.nyu.edu writes:
> 
>> Does anyone know whether it's true that When Jerry Brown was governor of
>> California, he almost had the CA National Guard invade the state of
>> Nevada because they were doing some sort of envirinmentally incorrect
>> dumping that Brown thought was 'wrong'?  If so, I think this a damn good
>> reason to keep him out of the White House at all costs.
> 
> I didn't know that Bill Clinton had net access!!!!
> 
> Terry "Nice try, Bill" Wood

Nice try yourself, asshole.  I asked the questions in all seriousness.
Oh, BTW, A) I voted for Tsongas, B) Jerry's tactics worked really well
here in New York, didn't they? :smirk:
-- 
Aaron Dickey                      Bitnet: axd7104@nyuacf
New York University             Internet: axd7104@ACFcluster.nyu.edu

Al Roker Is God.
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Friday, 17 Apr 1992 09:11:53 MST
From: <ICLNM@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Japanese law monsters

In article <33161@darkstar.ucsc.edu>, unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (resU nwonknU ehT)
says:
>
>        Rice, as one good example.  US Rice would be 1/10 the price of
>Japanese rice, even after shipping costs.. BUT NOOOOOOO.. they won't let it
>in..  (they harrassed/arrested/embarrassed (pick any/all) someone for even
>_showing_ a bag of US rice at some kind of convention).
>
The unknown user is truly backwards.  Or maybe unknowing.  Rice is not a good
example, as was pointed out (Re: Rice Myths) in a posting this spring (Mar 3,
92).

Every country has a lot to learn about open international trade.  Witness the
acrimony with Europe over agriculture subsidies.  Witness our own unwillingness
to learn and adjust to the local culture of the country we wish to trade with.
Witness Japan's attempt to "have their cake and eat it, too".  We are all
going to have to stop blaming our troubles on someone else and concentrate on
solving the problems.  BTW, the hottest item in Japan in the early 60's was an
American car.  We were the best in the world then.

Loyd Means
Phoenix AZ
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.science
From: jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung)
Subject: Re: Bakker and LaRouche
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 02:41:40 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.223808.23881@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <y_tjz-k.sheaffer@netcom.com> sheaffer@netcom.com (Robert Sheaffer) writes:
>>You might go to JAIL for this! You might even end up in the SAME
>>jail cell as Jim Baker and Lyndon Larouche! 
>
>Ah, if only Jim Baker *was* in prison.  Unfortunately, it's just Bakker.
>
>Now, is there any truth to the UL started by _The Nation_ that Bakker
>and LaRouche *are* sharing the same cell?  What does LaRouche think of
>Dershowitz defending Bakker?  Has anyone smuggled in a lemur to them?

	Jim Bakker and Lyndon LaRouche *did* share the same cell.  However,
after about three months, LaRouch asked to be transferred out.  Kinda tells
you what kind of @$#^ Bakker was.

ObScienceFolklore:  If I were to go back in time, can I really kill one of
my ancesters and create the famous paradox?  Assume time travel is possible.


>-- 
>Ted Frank          + "He wanted to be the car rather than the thimble or the
>1307 E 60 St, #109 +  hat."  -- District attorney explaining Marc Cienkowski's
>U o' C Law Skool   +  murder with bow and arrow of Michael Klucznik in
>Chi, IL 60637      +  Doylestown Borough, PA over a game of Monopoly.


-- 
T. H. Brian Chung         |These are my opinions.  If you want them, you will
JFE@VAX5.CIT.CORNELL.EDU  |have to fight me for them.
JFE@CORNELLA.BITNET       |I am a trained Kwisatz Haderach.  Kids, do NOT try
JFE@ALCHEMY.TN.CORNELL.EDU|this at home!
From: scm@harvee.UUCP (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: the stolen lobster
Date: 16 Apr 92 07:58:48 GMT
Organization: gators 'r us
X-Version: Rodney's UUCP modules 02/11/90 V1.18


a friend of mine told me the following, which her father told her he'd
read in the paper. does anyone recognise it?

a man stole a live lobster from a vendor at haymarket in boston, by putting
it in his trousers. somehow the lobster got its claws loose from the 
elastic bands which held them closed, and pinched the man viciously in very 
tender places.
--
-- little gator aka S. Mudgett     email: scm@harvee.uucp
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: djohnson@gamma.is.tcu.edu (Darryl (The Other Brother) Johnson)
Subject: Re: Radium poisoning
Summary: adv. Like or resembling summer.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas Christian University
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 22:59:00 GMT

>ICLNM@ASUACAD.BITNET (Loyd Means) writes:
>>painters, to keep the tip of the brush neat, would lick it now and then.
>>One day, several were in a rest room when the lights went out in the building.

To their amazement, they were ALL wearing glowing signs that said
"Painters can lick, too!"

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 19:20:47 EDT
From: <LNF@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: A grim death (was burger bar accidents)
 <1992Apr16.193317.23396@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>

In article <1992Apr16.193317.23396@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>, billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com
(bill nelson) says:
>
>I think he was pulling your leg. There is no way a person could fall into
>a furnace. It is doubtful if a person could fall into one of the crucibles
>used when "tapping" the furnace, but is possible.

It certainly is possible to fall into certain steel furnaces.  I watched
a college student come pretty close when he slipped while shoveling
refractory into the mouth of a tilted basic oxygen furnace.  He did
manage to throw his shovel into the furnace.

Falling into a steel ladle was not unheard of...it was a typical accident.
I never read an accident report on anyone falling into a ladle of
molten steel, but I remember one where a worker fell into the ladle
within a few minutes after the pouring was completed.  Same difference.
There was a man who fell into a ladle and managed to crawl out while
the ladle was being positioned underneath the furnace.  He was able to
make it out despite having both hands or arms broken.  Desire...

>There are/were occasionally people who were killed by vapor explosions
>that occurred when pouring the molten metal.

Quite a few people were killed by steam explosions and even dust
explosions.  I think Bethlehem Steel managed to have the bottom fall
out of a 200 or 300 ton (full) ladle without killing anyone.  Now that
was a lucky day.

Larry
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From: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Slagle)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.science
Subject: Re: FCC Call letters
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:19:11 GMT
	<SLAGLE.92Apr6103432@sgi417.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com>
Reply-To: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co., Sunnyvale, Ca.
In-reply-to: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com's message of Mon, 6 Apr 92 17:34:38 GMT

In article <SLAGLE.92Apr6103432@sgi417.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com> slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Slagle) writes:
   Seems more likely that, since they were the new kid on the block,
   that they just took the lowest available UHF channel.  Either CBS 
   or NBC would likely have had the lower ones in most cities before 
   ABC was born.

----
Of course I meant VHF, not UHF.  Many have pointed out
my slip, some more politely than others.

--
----
Mark E. Slagle                                 PO Box 61059
slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com                       Sunnyvale, CA   94088
408-756-0895                                   USA
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: ipayne@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Ian Payne)
Subject: Can such things be ?!
Summary: Self removal of breast implants
Keywords: breast implants, self surgery
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 18:20:04 GMT

 Someone in the office is claiming that a woman in Arizona removed
her own implants because her insurance wouldn't pay for it.

PLEASE tell me this is an urban legend.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.science
From: dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.))
Subject: Re: PC Hazard
Organization: D and D Data, Vienna Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 20:13:21 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.183518.9061@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> w3wes@edison.gsfc.nasa.gov (William E. Smith) writes:
>
>     I once ran across an account of a possible hazard to PC's.  It seems
>someone had their hard disk "wiped" during the trip home aboard one of
>Washington, DCs Metro Subway trains.
>
>     Any comments?

	I haven't observed this myself, (Metro doesn't go where I need to
usually, so I seldom ride it) but I have seen postings from others who observed small metalic
objects like paper clips arranging themselves in patterns above the motors
and changing position as the motor is powered up (acceleration), reverse
powered (deceleration), or turned of (at a stop).  A field srong enough to
do this would probably partially erase floppys or hard drives placed in a
briefcase on the floor in these locations.

	I've always wondered why most hard drives use cases of alloys which
are useless for magnetic shielding purposes.

-- 
Donald Nichols (DoN.)     | Voice (Days): (703) 704-2020 (Eves): (703) 938-4564
D&D Data                  |  Email: <dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com>
I said it - no one else   |         <dnichols@ceilidh.aes.com>
	--- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.beer
From: gateley@rice.edu (John Gateley)
Subject: Re: other fun mistranslations..
Organization: Rice University
	<1992Apr4.221839.11148@nmsu.edu> <1992Apr10.115358.6962@public.sub.org>
	<14APR199217043212@vax.cc.williams.edu> <3481@moscom.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:42:02 GMT

In article <3481@moscom.UUCP> de@moscom.UUCP (David Esan) writes:
   In article <14APR199217043212@vax.cc.williams.edu> 92dms@vax.cc.williams.edu (Bat Rastard) writes:
   >And don't EVER try to order a Tsingtao in a Spanish-speaking country. . .
   Why?

Tsingtao is pronounced "ching-dao" which is very similar to
"chingado", the spanish word for "f*cked".

John "putamara - believe it or not, its not bad!" Gateley
--
gateley@rice.edu
Si pots llegir aquest, m'agradaria si contestara`s.
From: rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla)
Subject: Re: Ask Marilyn Again
Keywords: Marilyn
Organization: Rescorla for himself.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:39:28 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.183255.10942@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> amorgan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Crunchy Frog) writes:
>Monty knows which door holds the goodies.  He tells you beforehand that he
>will *always* show you a blank door and he never reveals the prize.  There
>are two arguments:
This is the key part of the puzzle. Without this piece of data,
it is my understanding that the problem does come out 50/50. And as
I remember, Marilyn didn't mention this.
-Ekr


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From: MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu (Michael Edelman)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.science
Subject: Re: FCC Call letters
Date: 9 Apr 92 12:20:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: cms.167C4756F.MEDELMA
Organization: Wayne State University

In article <1992Apr8.135818.1597@lsl.co.uk>
robin@lsl.co.uk (Robin Fairbairns) writes:
 
>
>In article <167C27123.MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu>, MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu (Michael Edelman) writes:
>> Amateurs used to have an 11 meter band (27 MHz) as well as a 5 meter
>> band (100 MHz). TVs used to include a channel 1 around 54 MHz. [...]
>
>I assume this is a special dispensation for amateurs in the USA.  In
>Europe, we keep the speed of light the same for 27MHz as for 100MHz.
>Thus a 100MHz band would be a 3 metre band, round here ;-)
>--
>Robin Fairbairns, Senior Consultant, postmaster and general dogsbody
>Laser-Scan Ltd., Science Park, Milton Rd., Cambridge CB4 4FY, UK
>Email: robin@lsl.co.uk  --or--  rf@cl.cam.ac.uk
 
Oops. Yes, even though we do slide a bit in relating frequency to
wavelength for purposes of naming, what used to be the amateur 5 meter
band was, in fact, around 70MHz (yes, it *should* be the 4 meter band).
72MHz is still an amateur band in GB and Europe, where I have no idea
*what* they call it :-)
       --mike
From: koomlsm@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Cow Tippin'
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:22:05 CDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY


In article <92097.114055ICLNM@ASUACAD.BITNET>, <ICLNM@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
> In article <4APR199223260066@gamma.is.tcu.edu>, djohnson@gamma.is.tcu.edu
> (Darryl Johnson) says:
>>
>>I didn't grow up on a diary farm, but I thought bulls had horns,
>>and cows didn't.
>>
> Or any other farm, apparently.  Cows definitely have horns.  And are quite
> willing to use them.
> Loyd Means
> Phoenix AZ
c

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: ceb@dbrus.Unify.Com (Caroline E. Bryan)
Subject: Re: The wacky, flakey State
Keywords: earthquake dam flood
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 17:08:50 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.165612.12002@anasaz> morris@anasaz (Bob Morris) writes:
>
>Almost all dams are built *right on* faults.  You see,
>rivers like faults because it's easier to carve a riverbed there.  You
>just gotta hope the damn engineers (oops, dam engineers) know what they're
>doing.  And anyway, there's not many places in that part of California that
>aren't just a few miles from the intersection of 3 minor faults.  Sorry.

Bad news, Bob.  Dams are built on faults only when the engineers don't know
what they're doing.  Rivers flow along fault lines only if there are fault
lines following the line of greatest gradient.  The Mississippi, for instance,
does not follow a looping fault line cutting the continent in half: for one
thing, fault lines don't loop; for another, there is no fault system cutting
the continent in half.  The American and Sacramento Rivers don't follow a
fault line down from the Sierra Nevada across the Central Valley to the Paci-
fic Ocean (cutting *across* the Hayward fault system on the way); they go 
from the mountains to the ocean because it higher in the mountains than it
is at sea level, and -- extremely technical geological information here, so
it's no wonder you've never learned it -- WATER FLOWS DOWNHILL.  Isn't  that
amazing?!

There are a lot more reasons why individual rivers are where they are than
the presence of fault lines.  Any elementary geology text can tell you all
about it.


Carrie "where rocks are brighter than jocks" Bryan  ceb@dbrus.unify.com  -----+
| ... one of those cliches that are always lying in wait to fill a vacuum in  |
| the brain.		- H.W. Fowler					      |
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: bness@athena.mit.edu (Elizabeth S Nesseler)
Subject: Human Genome Mapping
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 20:59:59 GMT

About that human genome project....
I don't think that they're mapping one particular
person's genes, because in order to figure
out where one of the loci for, say, eye color
is, you need information from bunches of people.
It's like taking someone with blue eyes, someone with
green eyes, and someone with brown eyes, and trying
to figure out what's different in their DNA sequences.
I think they're mapping WHERE the loci for
various traits are, and not just the map 
of one individual.

BTW: The people who discovered the double helix
 structure were Watson and CRICK, not Holmes.

	---Bessie "just another nerd" Nesseler
From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Flip-Tops for Kidney Dialysis UL (?)
Date: 9 Apr 1992 01:11:49 GMT
Organization: FAQ This Stress Relievers, Inc.
Distribution: na
Reply-To: twchan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

In article <1992Apr8.213638.2069@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> jlacey@cbnewsl.cb.att.com 
	(james.w.lacey) writes:
  
  [Classic pull tab for dialysis redemption UL and some decent reasoning
   deleted.]

  +Has this been brought up before on a.f.u and is there some
  +"straight dope" (ie, documentation) on the story?

You may want to check out the section entitled "Redemption Rumors" in
_The Mexican Pet_ by Jan Harold Brunvand for some good low down on this
one.


Terry "Craig Shergold wants pull tabs now?" Chan
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: larryh@cabezon.uucp (Larry Huntley)
Subject: Re: Run out of town on a rail
Keywords: eat more cruciferous vegetables for Jesus.
Organization: SCN Research/QIC Laboratories of Tigard Oregon
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 01:08:37 GMT

In article <ktuhtvINNgdk@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> linden@ella.Eng.Sun.COM (Peter van der Linden) writes:
>
>This week's phrase is "run out of town on a rail".
>What does it come from?

	As I understand it (shamefully, no unimpeachable source to quote),
	the runnee was tied to a fence rail, tarred, feathered, and then
	physically carried (by runners, presumably) to the town limits,
	there deposited with such of their belongings as no one had any
	claim to, and instructed to "head West (East, North, South), you
	ugly galoot."

	Tarring and feathering (followed by running out of town on the
	aforementioned rail) was the form of punishment preferred by those
	communities that couldn't get up the gumption to throw a lynching,
	or reserved for those crimes less than murder, hoss stealing, and
	cattle rustling - probably cheating at poker, getting the Parson's
	daughter "in trouble" or burning down the saloon (or whorehouse.)

-- 

    Larry Huntley / Logic Modeling Corporation / Beaverton  OR
	  "Pink and wet - they make the best kind of pet"
                   -*- Stop Continental Drift! -*-
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From: phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson)
Subject: Re: Rock and roll (was Re: some old uls)
Organization: Famed Parquet Floor
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 01:11:37 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.172609.13111@anasaz> morris@anasaz (Bob Morris) writes:
>Darryl Johnson asks:
>
>>Q: Did rock-n-roll originally
>>refer to automobile sexual carousing, BEFORE the music style came
>>into being?  
>
>I heard that the name is from Negro slang (hey, this was the 1950's,
>remember?) for sexual carousing without the automobile.  Since the subject
>matter of early rock and roll music was sex, the name seems appropriate.

Going back even further, "jazz" once meant "sexual carousing".

Do "disco" and "rap" and "reggae" have meanings I don't know about?

ObUL:  "Goin' home", a common phrase in rock and r&b, is yet another
reference to "sexual carousing".

Phil "I'm not coplaining, mind you" Gustafson

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| "Better a free bottle in front of me than a prefrontal lobotomy"          |
|                                      Fred (not Steve) Allen               |     
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