From: bi011@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill King)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Ron Simmons
Date: 17 Apr 92 13:24:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr17.132408.5209
Reply-To: bi011@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill King)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, onder@ISI.EDU (Bruce Onder) says:

>In article <1992Apr16.234515.1660@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gjh2j@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Jeff Hawkins) writes:
>>Kip Frey, listen up. A golden oppurtunity for one of the best heels of all
>>time is pasing you by, his name is Ron Simmons. Yep, ol Mr. Florida State
>>should have been a heel starting with a membership in the Varsity Club
>>(herd blew it on that one).
>What?  No way.  Ron Simmons doesn't seem to fit the Rotundo/Steiner
>wrestling background.

Yes, but with his All-American Status that Jim Ross shoved down our throats
all the time, he would fit in with the "Varsity" image.

>>Then, DOOM, great team with the masks, then they
>>got turned into total pussys for the Steiners (keep track with me, that's
>>mistake #2).
>I liked Doom.  I liked Peanuthead back then, too.  I'll grant you this
>one.
I liked them after they removed the masks. For me at least, I can't really
like/root for a masked team. It makes for two many "both wrestlers are
masked and look the same so who's the legal man in the ring" type
endings..

>>Now he's a bad mark at best, teaming him with losers like
>>Big Josh and JYD (#3,and if you count Ranger Ross,that's 4)
>
>Okay, given Josh and JYD aren't that interesting.  But Josh *did*
>separate a jobber's arm from his shoulder.  And JYD has been off the
>twinkies and pepsi (68 lbs worth!).
When Simmons was signed to face Cactus Jack here in Philly [Simmons no
showed and JYD replaced him), I think that might make for an interesting
feud.

>>Not even the decency to put him in the WARGAMES? (5)What were you
>>thinking?
>Ah, the wargames are boring anyway.

Huh? What other match could U see things like Brian Pillman getting
power bombed multiple times until he's unconscious? Or watching people
like Road Warrior Hawk and Bobby Eaton have to grab the top of the cage so
they don't hit their heads when jumping off the top rope. The fact that
there will be no run-ins automatically makes it interesting, to say the
least. While I think I would rather have an elimination style WarGames,
that really isn't pratical. This way, the weak link member [JJ Dillon,
injured Brian Pillman,etc.] can lose without losing face. So I assume
that Sting will give up/have someone give up for him at this year's
War Games, IF they play up his injury.

>>Replace that loser who gets his dad, or his dad's old friends to fight
>>his battles (hint: his name is Dustin).
>
>Oh, nice HINT.  Jeez.  I guess it's easy to cry nepotism, despite the
>fact that Dustin has one of the highest workrates in the WCW.  Among
>the heavies, that is.

I agree, Dustin is pretty good. He has some speed, can do a number
of moves, doesn't rely solely on Bionic Elbow to get out of situations.
Also, it's nice to see a Rhodes who isn't ALWAYS attacked at the knee...

>>They should have had an elimination
>>match, because Ron can beat the shit out of Beanpole Rhodes (yeah, sell the
>>Bionic Elbow bullshit so I believe it)
>
>This is *wrestling*, Jeff.  What does being able to beat the shit out
>of anybody else have to do with it?  It's all heat, and Ron Simmons
>just doesn't seem to draw.  Whether that's because he never gets a
>consistent push (my theory) is debatable.
>
>>Better yet, make him a member of the DANGEROUS ALLIANCE (continuing the "drop
>>Stupid Steve Austin" campaign)
>
>Steve's got an in with *somebody*.  I mean, how long has he had that
>damn belt?  How many moves does he know?
Maybe I haven't seen enough Austin matches, but I don't think that
he's too bad either. I think matching him vs. Barry Windham is a great
idea though, as they both have about same size and Barry should be able
to improve the workrate for both of them...

>>At least give him a decent partner again, like
>>Eddie Gilbert (heh heh) or maybe.....JAKE ROBERTS (beautiful). 
>
>I'll agree with you -- Ron Simmons makes a great heel... when he's got
>a great heel partner.  Eddie Gilbert would fit my definition of a
>great heel partner.  Jake?  Eh.  :)
I disagree. I don't see small Eddie Gilbert teaming well with big Ron
Simmons. Maybe the size disparity isn't as big as I think it is, but
it just seems that it wouldn't sell. >
>
>>Just
>>quit using him like he's Pistol Pez Whatley (Shaska, whatever, I used to like
>>old Pez-head).
>There's only one thing that WCW needs to come back to the forefront of
>professional wrestling:
>PAUL JONES and JIMMY "BOOGEY WOOGEY MAN" VALIANT!
>These guys had great feuds!
Huh? ENDLESS hair vs. hair matches that Valiant lost becasue all his friends
[Manny Fernandez, Pez Whatley,etc.] would turn on him. I know he eventually
got somewhat even with Jones, but at that point it was a small battle in a
lost war. I cheered when Tully Blanchard piledrived Valiant on concrete
and his leg kept quivering as he laid there like a piece of meat.
>
>Ron Simmons needs a partner if he's going to be a heel.  I think they
>should use his desire to be the first black WCW champ to turn him heel
>against Sting.  Sting should die, at any rate.
Sting is not that bad. Matching him against a big guy like Van Vader
I think is a bad move, but overall, I think Sting is pretty good..

>Bruce

Bill
-- 
You should, have made it a point, to get BOTH of them Daddy! If Sting has
to carry me, on his back down that aisle, if he has to DRAG me in a wagon,
I'm breathing, ya understand? YOU SHOULD HAVE GOT IT DONE! It's violence for
the sake of violence & now I will turn it around to MY violence! ==Dusty Rhodes
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