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From: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Vitale's Big 10 Picks
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:00:09 GMT
Reply-To: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

In article <1992Oct13.094457.22716@hemlock.cray.com>, jeffy@cray.com (Jeffrey Neau) writes:
>Could you post Vitale's predictions for the Big 10?

Here goes: (this section was written by Dennis Brackin)

1. Indiana 15-3 con, 24-4 overall
2. Michigan 14-4 con, 23-5 overall
3. Iowa	    12-6 con, 20-8 overall	
4. Illinois 11-7 con, 19-9 overall	
5. Purdue   10-8 con, 18-10 overall
6. Michigan State 9-9 con, 18-10 overall
7. Ohio State 8-10 con, 17-11 overall
8. Minnesota 7-11 con, 15-13 overall
9. Wisconsin 6-12 con, 14-14 overall
10. Penn State 4-14 con, 8-20 overall
11. Northwestern 3-15 con, 9-19 overall

All Big-10:
F Calbert Cheaney, Indiana
F Chris Webber, Michigan
C Acie Earl, Iowa
G Jalen Rose, Michigan
G Tracy Webster, Wisconsin

POY: Calbert Cheaney	Top Offensive Player: Calbert Cheaney
	Top Defensive Player: Acie Earl		Top Rebounder: Chris Webber
Coach of the Year: Steve Fisher, Michigan	Game of the Year: Mich @Indiana
	Upset of the Year: Wisconsin over Indiana
Ugly game of the Year: Tennessee-Martin @Minnesota, Dec 21
	Top Newcomer: Glenn Robinson, Purdue	Surprise Team: Purdue	



	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)
"Where was that contract negotiated, the Forum parking lot?"
 --Pete Vecsey, on Lakers GM Jerry West giving Anthony Peeler a 10 yr. contract
From: kenttj@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Rashard Griffith and Grant Johnson
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:08:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: cnsvax.1992Oct16.020849.1793
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire


	What's the big deal about Rashard Griffith?  I heard he was
just another Grant Johnson...

	Stu Jackson another Barry Alvarez?  Maybe

					Terry Kent
From: cwh@acpub.duke.edu (CLAYTON HOLT)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Date: 10 Oct 92 04:14:44 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <14156.2ad46647@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> egras@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>
>
>	There is currently a thread in rec.sport.football.college which asks 
>the question:  What is the biggest rivalry?  I'd like to address this question
>to college basketball.  
>
>	I'm currently at tOSU, so we like to beat the perenially-good Indiana
>and in more recent times Michigan.  I graduated from Villanova which always
>loves to beat Georgetown.  However, I don't think these compare to the ol'
>Duke vs. Unc games, but I understand this rivalry to be rather recent too.
>
>	So what is the best rivalry in college basketball?  Consider factors
>such as tradition, quality of teams, and the impact of the game (i.e. does
>it usually determine conference champs).
>
>later,
>
>BrianE 

Having grown up in North Carolina as a die-hard UNC fan, I would have
to say that some of the best games of my childhood came from the old
UNC-NCState rivalry. It would be hard to beat those evenings sitting
in front of the TV, probably more nervous than the players wathing one
more down-to-the-wire games in Reynolds or Carmichael. And we all know
of the back-to-back championships these two put together in the early
eighties. 

But then I learned the error of my ways when I went to Duke for
Undergrad. So much for powwderpuff blue. By then NCState had started
to slide along with the scandals at the end of the Valvano era. So now
**THE** rivalry is DUKE-unc hands down. Not often do two teams who are
consistently in the top ten fight it out year after year for the
conference title and have to co-exist (not so peacefully) just ten
miles apart. And what other matchup actually creates noise in the
otherwise bastion of wealthy silence known as the DeanDome (no need to
mention the noise in Cameron). Nowhere else will you find students
camped out for weeks just to get into a two hour game and scream until
they can't speak and live and die with every shot on the floor. No
matter how good one of these teams is in ant given year or any given
game, this rivalry always produces a great game.

<wally>
'No .sig is a good .sig'
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Call for toughest arena votes
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:52:54 GMT

In article <matthew.718474874@base.cs.ucla.edu> matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu  
(Matthew Merzbacher) writes:
> jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE) writes:
> 
> >The Dean Dome???? What have you been smoking there in Atlanta?  Reynolds 
> >is much tougher to play in than the Dean Dome.  The Carolina wine&cheese
> >go to be seen at the game crowd is about the lamest in the ACC...
> 
> OK, all you Dean Dome slammers.  Just curiously, have you ever actually
> *been* to a game there?  No?  You just read what Sam Cassell (?) said
> last year?  I've been to lots of games in the Dean Dome, lots (and lots)
> of games in Carmichael, and lots of games elsewhere.  
> 
> The Dean Dome has two things that make it unusual (amongst arenas):
>   
>   1. Sound Absorbtion.  Instead of being a hollow tin shell, they put
>      in stuff during construction to eat noise so that concerts could 
>      be performed there, and the like.

In fact, after the 1988-89 season noise absorbers were REMOVED from
Cameron, spoiling many future concerts there.


> Matthew Merzbacher	ARPA:	matthew@CS.UCLA.EDU

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: Rashard Griffith and Grant Johnson
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 16 Oct 92 09:38:05 CDT

In article <1992Oct16.020849.1793@cnsvax.uwec.edu> kenttj@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>	What's the big deal about Rashard Griffith?  I heard he was
>just another Grant Johnson...
>
>	Stu Jackson another Barry Alvarez?  Maybe

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.  Boy, this might have been the funniest subject title
I've seen in a long time.

I think Grant's less mobile and much less offensively oriented.  He may be
a harder worker, though.

Griffith = one the most recruited players in the country this year.
Johnson = only recruited by Wisconsin (not even by Northwestern) out of
          high school
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: richter@cs.utexas.edu (Charles Richter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Annual Prediction...
Date: 8 Oct 1992 13:52:25 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

> You should try to justify this assertion.

This is rec.sport.basketball.college.  There's no place for that kind of
talk here!
-- 
Charlie Richter   Objective System Solutions   Austin, Texas
                  richter@cs.utexas.edu
"The panic ... was not due to anything fundamentally weak in either business
   or finance.  It was confined to the market itself."   - WSJ, Oct. 31, 1929
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:34:30 GMT

In article <92288.083358U52809@uicvm.uic.edu> Chuck Amsler  
<U52809@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
> Is the NIT Championship banner still hanging in Pauley?  Has UCLA fallen
> so low that being #65 is considered "glory"? 8-)   I was in Pauley for the
> first round games of the NCAA Tourney a few years ago and was really 
> surprised to see that banner (from a NIT in the early '80's, I believe)
> with all the real championship banners.
> 
> 
>   -- Chuck Amsler       U52809@UICVM.UIC.EDU

Perhaps here it should be noted that in the early part of the
life of the NCAA the NIT was a more prestigious tourney, with
teams such as DePaul being highly "ranked" and bypassing the
fledgling NCAA for the more established NIT.

Not that I'm implying it was that way in the early '80's, of course.

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From: rajain@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:37:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.184236.17862@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
> IU-Purdue.  For 98% of their fans, this is the game they don't want to
> lose.  It's easily the most-contested rivalry within the Big 10 (you may
> consider the recent Michigan State /Michigan battles and the very recent
> Illinois / Iowa battles close to it, though).
> -- 

 UMASS!!! vs Temple : Last season the fans on both the sides went crazy
 at the respective home-games. At UMASS!!! even those who claimed to be
 unaffected by the minute-mania could not avoid the sheer energy felt
 throughout the campus! Mainly it was because UMASS!!! had <at that time>
 lost about <not 100% sure> 22 or so straight games against the owls! Matter 
 of fact, you could see students wearing "Just do it!" T-shirts with UMASS!!!
 vs Temple written in front and then after the game <with front refering to
 the game vs. Temple> the back imprint had changed to "Just did it!"...

 And yes! this rivalry *has* been going on for last 10 <I think!> yrs or so!!

 I guess you could also place UMASS!!! vs. West Virginia in the same category
 although this is not as intense as UMASS!!!-Temple one....


> 
> Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu


Rajat Jain....
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: John_Mitchell@psych. edu.ualberta.ca (John J. Mitchell)
Subject: Cal bball recruits
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.college
Organization: University of Alberta
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:12:24 GMT

Does anyone have information concerning recruits which U. Cal is wooing for
the November signing period?
From: bob@bob.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Bob Baccus)
Subject: Re: Alabama?
Followup-To: Who took Wimp's place?
Keywords: David Hobbs, Assistant, ROLL TIDE 
Reply-To: bob@bob.b30.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:19:43 GMT

In article <1bli9hINNams@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner) writes:
|> 
|> Just curious, who replaced Wimp down in Bama?  What big shoes to fill!
|> 
|> Mike
|> -- 

David Hobbs, Wimp's Assistant Coach for the past seven or eight years
replaced him shortly after Wimp resigned. He was the player's choice as
well as the fan's choice. He was the person responible for the great
defense that Alabama has had in the past. Alabama should continue to
ROLL.

Bob

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From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Keywords: Ala/Ark
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:04:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: jade.1992Oct9.230425.16820
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
Originator: gharris@jade.tufts.edu

In article <BvvFqJ.DDC@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205) writes:
>
>>Do you guys get the impression Brian is a Purdue fan?
>
>	Brian a Purdue fan?  He goes to Wisconsin... :)

	Yeah, we all know you can only root for the schools you post from around
here.  Why, Jazzy J would never dream of rooting for Kentucky, and I myself
bleed...uh...what are Tufts` colors?

>|  "I am human and I need to be loved,            | Jazzy J                   |
>|   just like everybody else does..." - The Smiths| jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu | 
--
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Dept. of Mathematics            of them chances down in the dirt like a 
Tufts University                bug."   _The Devil's Dream_
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: ddn@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.d.nason)
Subject: Big-10 Schedules
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:26:15 GMT


Somebody asked, so I shall deliver -

The Question:  With the addition of Penn St into the Big-10 this
        year, and an 18-game schedule, what games have been dropped
        from each school's schedule?

The Answer:

        Illinois:       at Purdue, Minnesota
        Indiana:        at Michigan State, Wisconsin
        Iowa:           at Wisconsin, Purdue
        Michigan:       at Northwestern, Penn State
        Michigan State: at Penn State, Indiana
        Minnesota:      at Illinois, Ohio State
        Northwestern:   at Ohio State, Michigan
        Ohio State:     at Minnesota, Northwestern
        Penn State:     at Michigan, Michigan State
        Purdue:         at Iowa, Illinois
        Wisconsin:      at Indiana, Iowa

My source is the NCAA preview rag.

It makes you wonder how exactly they decided this - anybody know?
Certainly looks like they took the preceived strengths of the
teams into account.

As long as we're on the subject of schedules, let me say that there
sure are a bunch of weenie non-conference schedules.  Looks like the
Big-10 will be beating up on the likes of Central Connecticuit (Conn.
isn't big enough to have a Central, is it?), New Hampshire,
So. Illinois-Edwardsville, Bethune-Cookman, Mount St. Mary's,
Chaleston Southern, and the list goes on and on.  Minnesota is
trying to play the entire state of Tennessee (not that this is bad).

On the other hand, congratulations (or perhaps condolences (sp?)) go
to Indiana, which has a really exciting non-conference schedule
(Kansas, Notre Dame, Cincinnati, St. John's, Kentucky, etc.).  

There's some other great matchups like Michigan-Duke, Ohio St-North Carolina,
Minnesota-Memphis State, Michigan State-Louisville, etc.

david
From: rcollins@utdallas.edu (Reginald S. Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: 92 Olympic Prep Team
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:50:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: utdallas.1992Oct16.215045.9308
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas

In article <1992Oct16.174840.11403@cunews.carleton.ca> cs300004@scs.carleton.ca (Jose de) writes:
>Could anyone please tell me the players on this year's Olympic prep 
>team (ie. the college players who toured with the pros while in
>Barcelona this summer)? I recall Chris Webber (Michigan) and Bobby
>Hurley (Duke) were on the squad, but who were the others? This was
>the ONLY team that ever beat the Dreamers (OK, so it was only in
>practice). It'd be interesting to see how many of those guys are back
>in 1996 with the big team. Their schools would also come in handy.
>
>-Thankx

In no particular order:

Anfernee Hardaway - Memphis State
Grant Hill - Duke
Jamal Mashburn - Kentucky
Rodney Rogers - Wake Forest
Eric Montross - North Carolina
Allan Houston - Tennessee
From: neierka@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Kent A. Neier)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Final Four Sites
Date: 13 Oct 1992 01:40:00 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Distribution: world
Reply-To: neierka@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Kent A. Neier)
NNTP-Posting-Host: o231-11.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

shess@admin1.memst.edu writes
>
>  FUTURE FINAL FOUR SITES
>  1993: Louisiana Superdome, New Orleans        (63,000)
>  1994: Charlotte Coliseum, Charlotte,N.C.      (23,906)
>  1995: Kingdome, Seattle                       (40,192)
>  1996: Brendan Byrne Arena, E. Rutherford,N.J. (20,049)
>  1997: Hoosier Dome, Indianapolis              (47,000)

I think that the Hoosier Dome is going to use the 63,000 seat arrangement
for the '97 FF.  They did this for the '84 NBA vs Olympic Team I think.

>  (The above was excerpted from the Memphis Commercial Appeal)
>                                              Steve Hess

Kent Neier
neierka@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
neierka@cs.rose-hulman.edu
From: rajain@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Kansas Recruiting News
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:59:04 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.061143.5255@Csli.Stanford.EDU>, orourke@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Michael O'Rourke) writes:
> Here is some KU recruiting news that may or may not be current:
> 
> 
> KU has received oral commitments from two players:  B. J. WILLIAMS,
> 6'7" f, Wichita, KS, and NICK PROUD, 6'10" c, Sandy, UT.  PROUD is
> ranked the #6 center and the #35 prospect overall by Bob Gibbons.
> 

	[deleted...]
 
> 
> RASHEED WALLACE, 6'10" c, Philadelphia, PA:  At last report, he was
> 	still considering KU, but that was before they received a
> 	commitment from Proud.  I would think the `hawks would persist
> 	in recruiting him since he is supposed to be the #1 prospect
> 	overall, but that is mere speculation.  Someone mentioned on
> 	the net that he was to narrow his choices over the weekend.
> 	Does anyone know who will receive visits from Wallace?
        
	As a matter of fact....yes! I heard that, among other schools,
	Rasheed was considering UMASS!!! and he *might* be coming down 
	sometime.......haven't heard anything final yet..

>  

	[deleted...]

> 
> Rock Chalk
> orourke@csli.stanford.edu

Rajat...
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:46:38 EDT
From: Spiro the Spiny Goldfish <MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: NCAA Magazine predictions
Distribution: usa
 <1992Oct5.212928.24825@cbnews.cb.att.com> <92280.161757MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <Bvq0yI.EI9@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>

In article <Bvq0yI.EI9@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, lillie@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
(Christopher Lillie) says:
>
>   One last question for you Penn State fans. Is your new basketball arena
>a multi-purpose facility?  If it is do you know if it will hinder your home
>court advantage. I recall seeing some good things on the net about Rec
>Hall.

That arena won't be done this season, and probably won't be done for next
season either. But the good thing about Rec Hall was that most of the audience
was students, since tickets used to be free (not a whole lot of demand until
recently from non-students). This year, even though the games are still in
Rec Hall, they've started to charge for student tickets, and it will
definitely hurt the student support for the team.
----
Mike Dahmus       MXD118@PSUVM  or  dahmus@cs.psu.edu
TEAM OS/2
From: mooredb@ucunix.san.uc.edu (David Brian Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: TOSU vs UC (OSU Fans Plse Read)
Keywords: chickens?
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:29:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Cincinnati

To: ddn@cbnews.cb.att.com
Subject: Re: TOSU vs UC (OSU Fans Plse Read)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Cc: 
Bcc: 
Yes, Van Exel is exciting,but the one to watch this year from the outside
may be Lazelle Durdan. He was a prop 48 last year, and I saw a quote from
Van Exel saying Durdan has about another 5-6 feet of range on his jumper
which would put him close to 30 feet! The big question mark for Cincinnati
may be the center spot, currently Corrie Blount is ineligble according to
the NCCA due to a mess up with a medical red-shirt when he was in junior
college. With the possible exception of St. Louis, the Great Midwest should
have a very good conference this year.
I think Durdan may be from up your way? I believe I read he holds (held?) 
the record for 3's or 3's in one game or something. He had around 15 in a
sectional.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 18:08:38 GMT

In article <8OCT199217332682@cc.utah.edu> ewstroup@cc.utah.edu (ERIC W. STROUP) writes:
>In article <14156.2ad46647@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>, egras@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes...
>{	There is currently a thread in rec.sport.football.college which asks 
>{the question:  What is the biggest rivalry?  I'd like to address this 
>{question to college basketball.  
>{ 
>{	So what is the best rivalry in college basketball?  Consider factors
>{such as tradition, quality of teams, and the impact of the game (i.e. does
>{it usually determine conference champs).

>The recipe for a good rivalry includes proximity of the schools, and usually
>a general feeling of "one-up-manship".  I do not believe that quality of 
>teams is required, but it definitely helps.  As an example I would like
>to cite the hoop frenzy that exists in NC.  The "big" rivalry in the past
>was NC State and UNC however with the recent downswing in the program at
>NC State and the firm establishment of Duke as the NC team to beat, the 
>intensity has moved more to Duke vs. UNC.
>
>There are many other good rivalries:
>	Kentucky vs. Louisville
>	Virginia vs. Virginia Tech
>	Virginia Tech vs. VMI
>	Clemson vs USC
>	etc.etc.etc.
>
>Its almost silly to ask this question since everyone from a different school
>will believe their rivalry is best.

Well, not always. Since I grew up in North Carolina, the Tobacco Road
rivalries in the ACC have always been the best from my perspective. Being
at Indiana now, though, has put the IU-Purdue games right up there. After
beating the Boilers at Mackey last year, the entire IU campus went nuts,
running around in below freezing weather wearing t-shirts (or no shirts) and
shorts, shooting off firecrackers, climbing Showalter Fountain and burning
Purdue sweatshirts in effigy. I'm sure it happens elsewhere (especially at
Duke), but I've never seen as big a deal made out of one road win. It was
most amazing.

I think any really good rivalry always makes for great basketball. Duke-UNC,
UNC-NCState, Indiana-Purdue, Indiana-Ohio State, Kansas-Kansas St., UCLA-
Arizona all make up some of the best I've seen so far.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: coleman@susie.cs.scarolina.edu (Kevin Coleman)
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 15 Oct 92 06:43:53 GMT


lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange) writes:

>In article <a-7-QC+@engin.umich.edu> hajel@engin.umich.edu (john hajel) writes:
>>In article <6006@news.duke.edu> rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA) writes:
>>>
>>>I love this.  Only at Carolina would they have the gall to hang ACC
>>>championship banners for YEARS THEY DID NOT WIN.
>>
>>What about Duke's banner from '86 for
>>finishing #1 in the polls BEFORE the tourney.
>>Everyone does it.

>No.  Everybody does not do it.  In fact, only petty, insecure little
>schools with no true basketball tradition of taste or greatness do it.

>UCLA only hangs one type of banner.

>Not fake conference championship banners.
>Not even its many real conference championship banners.
>Not even "at one time in the season we were ranked really high" banners.

>But NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP banners.  NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP banners that
>flow in their glory around the entire circumference of Pauley Pavilion.
>More numerous than entire conferences can even dream of achieving.
>A greater number than most Pac-10 referees can count to.

>Let the Dukes and North Carolinas and Indianas of the world debauch
>themselves by stooping to showing off hollow symbols of meaningless
>achievements.

>But the Great Schools will not.

>- Trent Lange

Uh, I thought we were talking about modern-day College baseketball, not
Ancient History. C'mon...UCLA hasn't been a real contender for ages...

Kevin
coleman@susie.cs.scarolina.edu