From: tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Robert Oliver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Thanks for the flameries...
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 08:07:42 EDT
Reply-To: ailanth!tallman@wang.com (Robert Oliver)
Organization: Ailanthus Project

Thanks for the flameries...
 
Gee, and I thought I was a Star Trek fan. I guess I'm not.
 
***** Nobody said you were not a Star Trek fan. Nobody.
 
I thought trekkies were open-minded and progressive peoples,
but from what I have seen here maybe not. You blatantly
flame me for presenting my opinions, but why? Do you some-
how feel threatened by my thoughts? And, if you seemed to
have forgotten, I *DID* say they were just my opinions; I
am not trying to preach to everybody what I say the truth
is.
 
***** I am open minded and "progressive." The arguement was basically 
over the authenticity of FASA ST material -- a very narrow subject which 
did not encompass much of anything else. Blatantly flame? These were MY 
opinions, which like yours, I am free to express. I am not threatened by 
anyone and I never said that you were preaching the truth. I was simply 
trying to make the point that FASA material is just not considered 
official (riddled as it is by *many* inconsistencies)
 
I have all the fasa materials, and I enjoy reading them.
Sure, there are many contradictions and such, but they
have shaped my view of the Star Trek universe. Is every
star trek fan required to have the same views on this
wonderful creation of roddenberry? I think the greatest
thing about star trek is its dynamic appeal--it means
different things to many different people. If that
includes a contradictory stardate or history, so be it.
 
***** I once had all the FASA material and it also shaped my views of the 
Star Trek universe until I realized how seriously flawed it was. An 
opinion and differing viewpoint is one thing, errors on a massive scale 
are another. FASA material just doesn't represent an accurate depiction 
of established Star Trek. Yes, ST does mean differing things to differing 
people, however, there are certain "facts" that have been established and 
are vitally important to the integrity of the work known as Star Trek. If 
these "facts" are ignored and twisted about, then they have no honest 
relation to the "real" Star Trek world. It's a lot more than a *few* 
stardate/historical/technical inconsistencies, it's a whole bunch of 
them. A few minor inconsistencies (which exist in canon ST) would be 
acceptable, but not the major blunders made by a gaming company that 
simply couldn't keep up with a piece of work that was continually growing 
in spite of their own attempt to define it. You still haven't answered 
one of my original questions -- *why* is FASA a bonafide source? What 
gives them the power to define the ST universe? Viewpoints and 
established facts aretwo very different things and FASA had a lot of its 
facts wrong. Why do you want your ST universe defined (in part) by an 
inaccurate source?
 
But, it seems you are saying that you're right, I'm wrong,
and there is no such thing as a Klingon fusion theory.
Very well; next time I have a belief or opinion, I'll
clear it with you first.
 
***** NO, NO, NO. I'm saying that FASA is not to be considered an 
official source for information. The Klingon/Human fusion idea is 
interesting, perhaps very interesting, but FASA has no more authority on 
this matter than my aforementioned moldy jelly doughnut. The next time 
you have a belief or opinion you just go ahead and do whatever you want, 
don't bother letting me know as I'm not all that concerned about it. My 
main intention at the start of this thing was to simply point out (as I 
have said many times) that FASA is not an official source of information 
and that Gene Roddenberry (not myself) said that the TOS and TNG Klingons 
were supposed to be alike. I don't completely agree with Roddenberry and 
don't give FASA much credibility in this matter. This is the last time I 
will respond to this thread as I do not wish it to become a protracted 
arguement.
 
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