HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: thomase@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Thomas Stan England)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Mission to NEHGS
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:41:56 GMT
Reply-To: thomase@tekig5.pen.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

I found Compuserve to be indespensible in my research. The traffic is of the
type that I feel would be beneficial to the members of your organization.
I tried GENIE and Prodigy and have dropped both. You will find the cost of
Compuserve access can be greatly diminished be the use of one of the programs
which automates the sign-on/file download/sign-off procedure. I have been 
using a shareware package called TAPCIS for several years and am quite pleased
with it.
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:39:34 EDT
From:         "John William Keating" <casesun!keating@CS.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Ads for "your last name" products.
Comments: To: casemo!mimsy!VM1.NoDak.EDU!ROOTS-L@cs.UMD.EDU
              Apr 14, 92 1:08 pm

Chuck Klein writes:

>   Recently I received a catalog featuring sweatshirts that have
> Klein Biergarten  on them.  Since my name is Klein I first thought it was
> a coincidence but now I'm not sure. (In fine print the catalog says
> that there is no such place.)  Several days later I got an advertisement
> for the Klein family Visa card.  Have other people received ads
> for products with their last name?  Is marketing able to make custom
> catalogs like this?

I recently received some ads offering similar items with the KEATING name
emblazoned upon them.  The catalog also offered some other name.  I didn't
notice any specific notice saying that the places named were fictitious,
but I did notice that only certain pages were <YOUR_NAME_HERE> specific.
The other pages were made up of regular clothing.  All the printer needed
to do was to print a cover and three-four sheets of name specific ads, and
then sandwich them in with the other pages.

John

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   Dowty Communications, Inc    | KEARNEY, WINNER/WINTER, CROWE, MICHAEL,
  formerly: CASE/Datatel, Inc   | CECELIA, ZACHARIAH, etc...  (MD || !USA)
mimsy.cs.umd.edu!casemo!keating | Opinions expressed above are mine, not my
   73737.733@compuserve.com     | employers. -JWKIII-
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	TAURUS (Apr 20 - May 20)
You are practical and persistent.  You have a dogged determination and
work like hell.  Most people think you are stubborn and bull headed.
You are a Communist.
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:42:53 MST
From:         Achim Kruse <Achim.Kruse@ARBI.INFORMATIK.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject:      Germans To America (was: Name changes/ Ship arrivals)
Comments: To: "soc.roots-Newsgruppe" <roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu>
Comments: cc: mrr1@ra.msstate.edu, randyo@microsoft.com

Hello,

This weekend, there were two messages on ROOTS-L asking about emigrants
from Germany who were listed in some volume of
Glazier/Filby: Germans to America
and what to do next.

You should both be aware that this (nevertheless very valuable) work
does contain some errors (but which one doesn't? :-( ), but also
quite many ommissions. So you should always try to get the original
passenger lists and look at them carefully. It is possible that
there was a place of origin listed, but not easily readable. (This would
possibly result in listing only 'Germany' as place of origin.)
It is also possible that a family called Ehlert in the books might
in fact have been named Ehlers (this might also be an error by the ship's
captain (or whoever was responsible for keeping the lists)).

I don't know how to get the original lists in USA, but they are also
available here at Oldenburg university, so I could try and look
up some _specific_ requests.

Greetings  (from another European, by the way)

			Achim
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E-Mail : Achim.Kruse@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de, 100412@DOLUNI1.BITNET
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From: kloe@fys.ruu.nl (Jos de Kloe)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: There are Europeans on soc.roots!
Keywords: Europe
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:02:57 GMT
Organization: Physics Department, University of Utrecht,  The Netherlands

Just thought some of you would like to know what reactions I got on the
following message (I posted it last week).

>Hello everybody,
>
>I'm watching this newsgroup for several months now and I have the impression
>that 99 percent of all readers are from the USA.
>Since I live in Europe (The Netherlands) I would like to ask: 
>are there any europeans on this newsgroup? 

I received answers from the following countries:

France, 1
UK,3 (England,1 Scotland,1 Temporary European in Oxford,1)
The Nederlands,3
Germany,2
Norway,1
Spain,1
Sweden,1 (and I know another person who didn't respond)
Ireland,1
Dutchman in USA,1
Finland,1

I don't know how many people from the US read this (please don't respond ....)
so I don't know how far my guess of 99 percent was different from the exact
number.
It's not impressive but this proves it's not useless to ask european 
questions in this newsgroup.
Thanks to all who answered my question.

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From: klf@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (karen.l.fenton)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Laws of Genealogy
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:34:18 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <9204150059.AA06956@buita.bu.edu>,         botteron@BU-IT.BU.EDU writes:
> Probably most of us have come up with "laws of genealogy" during our
> research.  One of mine: "The availability of information is inversely
> proportional to the cost of copying it."  Examples:
> 
> Information source    Copy cost   Availability of books
> ------------------    ---------   ---------------------
> Genealogical society    $.25      instant (open stacks)
> State library            .20      5 minutes for clerk to bring
> Public library           .10      30    "    "    "   "    "
> Drugstore                .05      none
> Any more laws out there?
> 


Well, I've had *very* good results courtesy of my son's
research at school. Firestone Library has a wonderful
collection of local histories and geneological materials
including things I'd only heard about but never found
elsewhere.
The cost to copy is (I believe) about 15 cents a page.
The stacks are open and availability is fine.

Of course, I haven't factored in the $30k or so
I spend per year to place him there.  :-)
So I guess the rule holds.


Karen
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: King Magnus Barfot of Norway
From: woltmanm@mof.govt.nz (Michelle Woltman, EDP, Forest Res. Inst, Rotorua, NZ)
Date: 7 Apr 92 10:00:48 +1200
Organization: New Zealand Ministry of Forestry

A member of my family has been able to trace our family tree back to
a King Magnus Barfot who was a King in Norway in 1093 - Aug 1103 when 
he was killed in battle.

We have been unable to find any other information other than this and
was wondering if anybody else out there has some information on him.


Michelle Woltman
Forest Research Institute
Rotorua
New Zealand
e-mail:  Woltmanm@mof.govt.nz
From: thomase@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Thomas Stan England)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Where we are all coming from
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:49:53 GMT
Reply-To: thomase@tekig5.pen.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

The idea of including info about youself at the end of the file is great.
I've noticed a lot of people seem to refer to this as a .SIG. 
My question is, can this be automated so that a followup to an article when
reading the news will automatically append the contents of your signature
file to the end of your message?
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Newsgroups: soc.roots
Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 11:37:00 EST
From:         FAC_DBOYDRUS@JMUVAX1.BITNET
Subject:      SIMTEL120 Problem

Douglas Krause was nice enough to tell me that software to transcribe cemetery
inscriptions (CRD301.ZIP and CRDLT11.ZIP) can be obtained from Simtel120.  My
problem is that I cannot access Simtel120.  Is there another source?  I have
to both BITNET and INTERNET but the directions in the FAQ file does not work.
Any ideas and/or suggestions.  Thanks so much.
Dorothy Boyd-Rush
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Newsgroups: soc.roots
Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 11:06:05 CDT
From:         GLWARNER@SAMFORD.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Duplicate Roots Surname Lists
              5 Apr 1992 09:43:32 PDT from <karen%monty@RAND.ORG>

On Sun, 5 Apr 1992 09:43:32 PDT Karen Isaacson said:
>I don't HAVE a FIDOnet account, and have no idea HOW the duplicate
>posts of the Roots Surname List (from
>karen_E._Isaacson@F170.N771.Z3.FIDONET.ORG) are happening.  If someone
>understands what is going on, let me know?  Please?  (And why
>only my RSL, instead of all the ROOTS-L traffic????)

I am a FidoNet user, but not much of one...  Anyway, what is
happening is that when FidoNet sees messages that are too big for
it to handle it splits the message, and adds a line to the message
saying something like "File over 100 lines, continued in next message".

So then the message is NOT the one you posted, but a couple smaller
ones.  Which look like new mail to the rest of the list!


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Date:         Sun, 12 Apr 1992 15:13:02 EDT
From:         botteron@BU-IT.BU.EDU
Subject: Re: Name changes...
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU

One approach to finding out whether the Mathilde Ehlert you found was
the same person as your ancestor Matilda Ehlers would be to find out
what happened to Mathilde Ehlert.  Try to find out where the Ehlert
family settled: New York City or somewhere else.  Check the vital
records for deaths and marriages.  Check the 1860 and 1870 censuses
(naturally these are not indexed for many places); 1860 would tell
you whether she was still alive, and if she still lived with her
parents in 1870 (using her maiden name) she was probably not the woman
who married in 1866.

If you haven't checked censuses for your gggm and her husband, do.
That could narrow down her age, although censuses are not necessarily
accurate.  Also if they have, say, a man named Wilhelm Ehlers living
with them, identified as Matilda's husband's father-in-law, that would
be useful!  The 1880 census has an index to families with children so
you should be able to find them.

"Joh." is probably Johann.  Recently I asked about "Jno." and the
responses were unanimous that it stood for John or Jonathan; probably
it comes from an older form such as Johanno.

Carol Botteron          botteron@bu-it.bu.edu

(German names in my line include Volz, Bohn (I have a lot on that
one), Culman, Dietrich, Maus, Michel, Muller, Reyss, Schmidt,
Schmollen, Schultheiss, and Spoerl.)
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From: magier@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (David Magier)
Subject: Re: Meijer/Vinken Bay-City Mich
Reply-To: magier@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (David Magier)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:25:40 GMT

In article <ROOTS-L%92041417324270@VM1.NODAK.EDU> "Matt Adair"
<MLADAIR@MTUS5.CTS.MTU.EDU> writes:

>Hmmm...  Here in Michigan there is a chain of department stores called
>Meijer's.  I wonder if it is the same family?? If I remember right, the
>stores started out in the early 1900's somewhere near Bay City.
>I think there is a good probability it is.  Unfortunately, this is
>all the information I have.

The Meijer's department store chain was founded by one Hendrik Meijer
(1883-1964). I know nothing about him myself, but I have seen copies
of his autobiography occasionally for sale at checkout counters at
Meijer's. Here's the reference for the book, which came out in 1984.
There are probably copies at your nearest university or research
library, and there are definitely copies at Library of Congress,
Columbia University, New York Public Library, Michigan, Minnesota,
Indiana, and several others.  You could also check a Meijer's store to
see if they have copies around. (List price only $8.95).

David Magier (your friendly librarian).
-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
    ____________________________       304 International Affairs
  ///    -- David Magier --    \\\     Columbia University
 |||     Head, AREA STUDIES     |||    New York, N.Y. 10027
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:28:57 LCL
From:         Chris Darby <CMDARBY@SUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: cemetary
              10 Apr 1992 17:11:36 PDT from <uhubb@MCL.MCL.UCSB.EDU>

I received a 6400 line message from uhubb@mcl.mclucsb.edu which was totally
unreadable.  Complete gibberish, assume it was not translated.  If some one
received it in readable form please forward to me.  Thanks
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Newsgroups: soc.roots
Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 08:47:09 CDT
From:         GLWARNER@SAMFORD.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Meijer/Vinken Bay-City Mich

On Tue, 14 Apr 1992 13:36:18 GMT Rene Klomp said:
>My GGgrandparents have moved to the USA around 1900, probably
>to Bay City, Michigan. Their names are 'Johannes Meijer' and
>'Maria Vinken'. They come from the Netherlands from a little
>place called 'Alphen'.
>Can someone help me 'find' them?! I would like to know when
>they died etc.

Can you tell me how you pronounce MEIJER?  I have a great great
grandfather Johann MEYER who lived in Amelith, MI, which is
very near Bay City.  My parents were both born in Saginaw, and all
seven of my great grandparents died in Michigan (the eighth lives
there still), mostly in the Saginaw/Bay City area.  I wish I could
help you more, but I am unfortunately stranded in Alabama.


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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:04:09 EDT
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From:         Georgette Brown <BROWNG@GUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      HitchHiker's Guide to the Internet

I would like a copy! My e-mail address is: BROWNG@GUVM

Thanx,
Georgette
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:05:59 -0600
From:         allen%sol.dnet@SIRIUS.CIRA.COLOSTATE.EDU
Subject:      Re: Cassidy family
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU%SIRIUS.dnet@sirius.cira.colostate.edu

I have info on Butch Cassidy family if anyone is interested.

E-mail me direct:
allen%sol.dnet@sirius.cira.colostate.edu  (neil allen)
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 08:15:00 EST
From:         "Dorothy M. Paul (219) 239-8694" <LGG4BD@IRISHMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Where we are all coming from...

I know little or nothing about e-mail etiquette rules
(are there such things?) but I would like to put forward
the suggestion that when a message is sent to the list
that it be followed with at least a name, and location.
Location could be very simple such as the city and country -
if not the institution, company, etc.

When I read the mail on the list, the ones without indications
of who (& where) they are from are much less interesting.  I
have just added of file for a trailer with more detailed into
in it -- but it really doesn't need to be that complicated.

I am stepping down off the soap box now, so anyone
wanting to use it may feel free....
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Dorothy M. Paul           :
Room 836 Hesburgh Library :  Life is just a
Univ. of Notre Dame       :      chair of bowlies...
Notre Dame, Indiana, USA  :
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:47:02 -0400
Reply-To:     ak385@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
From:         Bill Green <ak385@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TT matching BBSs
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU

There used to be a file titled GBBS in the Genealog area, but I don't
see it there now.  I'll pick up the latest version from America Online
and fire it out to you, and send Cliff a copy for the Genealog area.

It's an excellant guide by Dick Pence, that lists all the genealogy
bbs', and it shows what each is equipped to do (Gensoft, TMS, etc.).

The copy I've got is dated January, 1991, and doesn't show a bbs with TMS
(no relation to PMS) in Massachusetts.

--
* Bill Green, Minot, North Dakota    ak385@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu *
*                  green%milo@plains.NoDak.Edu                   *
*  Researching:  ANHORN, KOHOUTEK, KOTCHIAN, HAVLENA, MARSCHALL  *
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From: wyzansky@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL (H. Wyzansky)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Jewish Genealogy Bibliography
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:56:05 GMT
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>From: "K. Haybron Adams" <LIBKHA%BYUVM.BITNET@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

>17.  Rosenstein, Neil, 1944- The unbroken chain: biographical sketches
>     and the genealogy of illustrious Jewish families from the 15th-
>     20th century.--New York: Shengold Publishers, c1976. 716p.
>     Includes bibliographical references and index.
>     Jews--Genealogy.
>     CS 432 .J4 R67

This book was updated in 1991 and republished by CIS Publishing in
Lakewood, NJ.  It is now 2 volumes and approximately 1600 pages.

>Mr. K. Haybron Adams
>Reference  Librarian
>Brigham Young  Univ.

Harold Wyzansky
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From: lianne@kea.lib.csulb.edu (Lianne Hoskins)
Subject: Evans Family book & Fred Gate
Keywords: Evans 
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:21:16 GMT


To: Fred Gate

What a pal!

Thomas & Katharine Evans had the following kids: Richard W., James, John
					         Thomas, Evan, David, Benjamin
						 Peggy, Caty, Polly, and lastly
						 Isabella.

Thomas Sr. died on or before 1808.
Isabella married Josiah Hoskinson 17 Nov 1795 in Monongalia Co., VA/WV
Isabella Evans Hoskinson died around 1814, possibly in Floyd Co., KY.

If you find something, lemme know here, or mail me at the address below.

Thanks for looking,
Lianne

lianne@beach.csulb.edu <-- Internet
8324 Noren St
Downey, CA 90240-3216  <-- Surface Mail



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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 11:45:04 GMT
From:         VIVIEN HICK <HICKC89@IRLEARN.UCD.IE>
Subject:      Re: Message to list members in Ireland

Are these the same Dungans/Dongans who are listed in INDEX TO THE PREROGATIVE W
ILLS OF IRELAND by Sir Arthur Vicars (Dublin, 1897) ? They are as follows:
Sir Walter Dongan, Castletown, Co. Kildare bart.----------------1627
John Dongan, Curihills, Co. Kildare gent.-----------------------1636
Edward Dongan, Kiltaghan, Co. Kildare esq.----------------------1639
Sir John Dongan, Castletown, Co. Kildare bart-------------------1663

In Transplantation to Connacht 1654-58, Robert C Simington, I.U.P. for the Iris
h Mss Comm 1970 lists a number of Dungans.
Bridget and Alice Dungan (?daughters of Sir John Dungan of Castletown, Co. Kild
are; original address 'of Co. Dublin' to Barony of Clare, Co. Galway 450 Irish
acres.(p. 84)
Sir Walter Dongan, Bt. decree related to parish of Fohanagh, barony of Dunkelli
n, but returned in Book of S. & D. (official volume) in barony of Kilconnell; o
riginal address=Castletown, Co Kildare-to  Barony of Dunkellin, Co. Galway, 1,5
00 Irish acres. (p. 100)
Sir Walter Dongan, Bt. Part satisfaction; original address=Castletown, Co. Kild
are to - barony of Kilconnell, Co. Galway 1,500 Irish acres. (p. 124)
William, Robert, Michael and Thomas Dongan sons of Sir John Dongan, Bt., deceas
ed of Co. Kildare- to Barony of Tirawley, Co. Mayo 550 Irish acres. (p. 226)
Lady Mary Dongan alias Talbot, widow; original address Castletown, Co. Kildare-
to Barony of Athlone, Co. Roscommon 1,569+ acres reserved for her by Order.(p.
235). (parish of St. Peter's)

You probably have this already but if not I hope that it is of use. If you tell
 me exactly what you are loking for I'll see what I can do.
Vivien Hick
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From: pauline@mips.cs.murdoch.edu (Pauline Day)
Subject: John Patrick Fennessy
Organization: Murdoch University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 00:42:59 GMT

My great grandfather John Patrick Fennessy came to Adelaide, South Australia on board the
"Peeress" in 1866.  I believe he came from the county of Tipperary, Ireland.  He married Mary 
Downey in 1875.

Would anyone have any information on him, especially Ireland side.

You can e-mail  me at
              pauline@mips.cs.murdoch.edu.au

Pauline Day
Murdoch University
W. Australia

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