HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: delledg@uts.cc.wayne.edu (DeVaughn Elledge)
Subject: Andolsek case: No felony charge
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit Mich.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:35:41 GMT

Baton Rouge, La.-

   The driver of the truck that killed Lions guard Eric Andolsek will be 
arraigned on simple traffic charges.

   The grand jury refused to indict James E. Bennett, 34, on vehicular 
homicide or negligent homicide.
   Bennett, who was driving a flatbed truck, ran off Louisiana 1 on June 23
and struck Andolsek as he trimmed his lawn in Thiboduax. He died an hour later
   Bennett is to be arraigned Monday before District Judge John J. Erny on a
charge of failure to maintain control, a traffic misdemeanor, state police
spokeman Hamilton Mixon said Thursday. The offense is punishable by up to
6 months in jail and a $2,000 fine.
   According to state police, Bennett fell asleep at the wheel. At one point
in the investigation they said he indicated he might have been inattentive
and not asleep.

 Personal Comment:
   On the Network news it was also stated they had found traces of cocaine in
his urine but they can't determine wether or not it was the cause of the
crash. Hmmmmmm.......
 

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From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Trivia
Date: 13 Nov 92 14:13:53 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <721605644snx@smok.demon.co.uk> richard@smok.demon.co.uk (Richard Clyne) writes:
>Who was the last player to rush for a TD, pass for a TD, Receive a TD, and
>return for a TD in the same season?
>
>I'll guess at an ansew in a weeks time.
>--
>Richard Clyne
>319 Violet Lane, Croydon, Surrey, CR4 4HN. Tel +44 (0)81 686 7159
>richard@smok.demon.co.uk (Prefered)    rclyne@cix.compulink.co.uk

Brian Mitchell of the Redskins maybe??  I know he was the backup QB when
the Eagles took out Humphries and Rutledge in the so-called "Bodybag Bowl".


satish nair 
go giants
From: rjk@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Raymond K)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Worst/Best Trades
Date: 11 Nov 1992 20:03:03 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Howard Hughes Medical Institute
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In article <97139@netnews.upenn.edu> satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
>In article <1dr65bINNk4d@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> rjk@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Raymond K) writes:
>>
>>Maybe he's playing "well", but so is Maryland.  My point was somebody
>>who is doing "significantly better" than Maryland.  If you can't find
>>somebody like that, then by the original poster's standards, everybody
>>in the first round of that draft is a "bust".
>
>Oh come one, stop defending Maryland so much.  He's a good player but that's
>all! 

How much is "so much"?  I said that he was playing "well", see above.
You yourself say he's a "good player", where have *I* gone to extremes?
My defense of Maryland comes from pointing out the fact that he's been
injured much of the year.

>      Definitely not something that a first choice overall would be expected
>to contribute.  People like Mike Croel, Rob Moore, Jarrod Bunch and Brett
>Favre have been more of impact players. 

First off, Mike Croel is a LB, Rob Moore is a WR, Jarrod Bunch is a FB,
and Brett Favre is a QB.  Russell Maryland is a DT, a position in which
it is a lot tougher to make an impact at than LB, WR, FB, or QB.
Second, none of the players you mention are doing "significantly better"
than Maryland, which was my original question.
Third, to already call any player from the 1991 draft a bust is really
grasping at straws.  Sure, a first rounder without a team (ie. Huey
Richardson) could be called one, but most of the others haven't even 
gotten their feet wet in the NFL yet.  Give them some time.  In contrast,
a guy like Maryland really came on last year and drew many accolades from
the people who come up with All-Rookie teams, etc.

>                                        By that standard, the Cowboys really
>lost out in spending the first choice overall for Maryland (I don't recall
>calling him a bust, just that using that choice to get someone who hasn't
>made a major impact was a bust).

If you weren't around this newsgroup at the time of that draft, let me
inform you that this topic has been discussed to death.  Suffice it to
say that the Cowboys had a lot of options that year since they had three
first round picks.  They did what they wanted to do with them to maximize
their benfits, and the got the guy they wanted.  The point I am trying
to make is that none of the guys in that draft are making a major impact
in the NFL yet.  Wait til they've been in the league three years before
you evaluate them as impact players or busts.



Ray      GO COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: v073pzuy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Damned for all time...)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Some Foster guy ????
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:29:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov10.004855.100202@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, tes0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (THOMAS EDWIN SCHMIDLIN) writes...
>In article <1992Nov9.074915.2043@math.ucla.edu>, rfedkiw@crenshaw.math.ucla.edu
>(Ronald Fedkiw) writes:
>>Everyone knows who Thomas, Sanders, and E. Smith are.....
>>But lately I've heard a lot of wind on some Pittsburgh back.
>>Well it looked like the AFC back showdown was this weekend:
>>Pitt vs. Buff
>>Now we heard how Thomas did, but what about Froster????

>Well, lets see. . . Foster had 77 yards and was effectively shut down by
>the bills.  Yeah, he got 77, but for him, that's not that great.

Barry Foster was shut down quite effectively.  Most importantly, perhaps, his
last 4 carries gained him only 6 yards.

>>Who leads the NFL in yards from scrimmage?

>That's easy . . .Emmitt Smith (cowboys)  963 yards.  Who's second?  Barry
>Foster (STEELERS) 942 yards.  Where's Thomas?  As of 1 week ago, he wasn't
>even in the top 5.  5th place was 175 yards behind Barry Foster.

I have 400 articles to catch up on, so maybe someone has pointed out the errors
of your ways, but it bears repeating anyway--

Thurman Thomas leads the NFL in scrimmage yards.  Emmitt Smith is 2nd.  Thurman
Thomas has led the league the previous three years.  The only other man to do
this was Jim Brown.  Should Thomas win again this year, he will become the 
*first* and *only* player to ever accomplish such a feat.

>>Which back has led the league in total yards for the last 3 years?

>I don't know, but since Foster has only been the featured back for the
>STEELERS this season, and this is only his third year in the NFL, I guess
>Thomas has probably had more yards.

The clue lies above...

>>Which back is back to the drawing board?

>It certainly isn't Foster.  A back that gets just 77 yards per game each of
>the 16 regular season games would total 1232 yards for the season, an asset to
>any offense.

I agree.  I disagree with the original poster's slamming of Barry Foster, a big,
talented back by any definition of the position.

I'll also add that Thurman Thomas is better, hands down.


>>Ron Fedkiw (rfedkiw@joshua.math.ucla.edu)

>Tom Schmidlin       DEEP THOUGHTS: By Jack Handey - I wish a robot would
>TES0@LEHIGH.EDU         get elected president.  That way, when he came
>215-758-0875            to town, we could all take a shot at him and not
>                        feel too bad.

					---Me
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From: ajj@zycor.lgc.com (Andrew Jackson)
Subject: Re: Oilers blowing it again!!!
Organization: Landmark/Zycor   Austin, Texas
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:29:04 GMT

Hi all,

While I am waiting for a link to complete...

I drove back from Houston last Sunday listening to the post-game
show after their lost to the Steelers. A caller diagnosed the
problem with the Oilers through the years in one word:

			"H E A R T"

The Oilers have no heart. I am not an Oilers fan and for years I
gloated when the Oilers would lose to outmanned Steeler teams.
Through the mid & late 80s, the Oilers had more talent and should
have beaten the Steelers with regularity. This year is different.
I did not gloat (though I was much pleased and amused) because the
old saw, "The Oilers have much more talent" is no longer true.

How many times have those of us who have followed the Oilers from
the mid 80s have quoted the subject line, especially in key games
like last years playoff debacle at Denver. Have they ever consistenly
played with that burning desire that is a must if a team is to go
to the Super Bowl?

Don't get me wrong, the Oilers are still a very talented team.
They can and will continue to win games and achieve winning
seasons in the next few years. However, they are aging and other
AFC teams are up and coming (Pittsburgh) or have just about come
of age (Kansas City - despite their current record).

The Oilers as we know it now will never get to the Super Bowl.
They have no heart, no desire. They have had their chance and they
blew it.

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From: v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: RE: Some Foster guy ????
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:16:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <9NOV92.23505179@vax.clarku.edu>, htilney@vax.clarku.edu writes...
>Thurman Thomas (Mr. self-proclaimed Michael Jordan of football) had a great
>day, no doubt about it, but Foster didn't do badly either. 
	
	No, I guess 77 yards isn't a bad day for a mediocre running back.

> 
>Bart


Jon
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Subject: Re: Sports Illustrated midseason All-Pro team
From: JJ Serowik <JJS158@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 12:57:46 EST
Organization: Mythos/Xcalbrin Inc.
X-School: Penn State University

I wanna know where Reggie White is!  And this from a Dallas Fan!
He's obviously one of, it not, the best!  Any man who has to be
double teamed ALL the time must deserve some credit!
                                                      Rob.
From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: For Dallas fans - I need Cowboys Schedule
Date: 11 Nov 1992 15:00:18 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsa.csd.mu.edu

Hi to Cowboys fans
Can you please post or e-mail me the remainder of the
schedule for Dallas (With timings if you can)?
Thanks a lot.

       *********************************
       *	N.Ramasubramanian      *    	    
       *********************************
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From: kary@col.hp.com (Dan Kary)
Subject: Re: Koontz Computer Predictions - Week 11
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:35:52 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

ckoontz@fozzy.UUCP (Carl H. Koontz) writes:
> Here are my picks for Week 11:
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 
> Carl

Tell the truth now.  Does your prediction program use a random number
generator to pick the scores?

:-)

Dan (go flo) Kary
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From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan )
Subject: Playoff Rankings.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:33:04 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

I was just wondering how the rankings in the playoffs are 
determined.
Suppose one of the Division winner in a particular conference
has less # of wins, say 11 as compared to the second placed
team of another division in the same conference which has
12, how is the ranking then determined.
Does the Division winner always get the preference over
second placed teams. 
How can one rate the division winner of a weak division
better than the second placed team of the strong division.

S.H
From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Best in Tejas, part II
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:45:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: devnull.2829
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

Any Oiler fans want to continue the "Best in Texas" argument?  My, but those
Browns are pesky.  Hey, Pardee, you're supposed to *win* those divisional
games.

Heeheeheehee.

Daniel Welch
From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: They might be faking it...
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:58:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: dip.BILLMS.92Nov9105817
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: University of Michigan

In article <910427m.63.721319824@ace.acadiau.ca> 910427m@ace.acadiau.ca (JASON MATTHEW MCDONALD) writes:

   I was watching the Bengals/Bears game last night on TSN, which was carrying 
   the ESPN broadcast, and I heard possibly the stupidest comment I've ever 
   actually heard while watching football.

   Picture this.  Bears winning by a fair margin ( 14 I think), 2nd Half
   Bengels have the ball on or about their 45 yard line. 
   It's fourth down.
   1 to go.
   The Bengals line up to go for it.
   The ever so intelligent ESPN reporter says;
   'They're going to go for it, or at least fake it'

   FAKE IT?????  What the hell does FAKE IT mean.  How the HELL to you fake 
   going on a fourth down?  I don't know, maybe this guy sees something I don'
   t.  But if you ask me, it's just plain stupidity.

Faking it works quite a bit in that situation.  You come up and give a hard
count or two, with *no* intention of running a play.  Either you get an
offsides/encroachment call and a first down, or you lose five on the delay of
game and punt with little penalty from your 40.  What, you've *never* seen
this used before?

Bill
--
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	Bill Mangione-Smith
	billms@eecs.umich.edu
From: grundusk@sunflare.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Kevin Grunduski)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Dallas vs. Detroit
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:10:55 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

In article <1992Nov5.223238.19378@news2.cis.umn.edu>, dubear@molbio.cbs.umn.edu (Dubear Kroening) writes:
|> Detroit doesn't even use the run and shoot anymore, which is one of the 
|> reasons IMHO that they're doing so bad.  Additionally, there may be one 
|> starting offensive lineman left from last year, the rest are either injured
|> or no longer with us.  I can't figure out what Fontes is doing, changing the
|> offense and starting Rodney, but I for one think his time is up.  I don't 
|> think Detroit stands a chance.
|> 
|> Final score Detroit 10, Dallas 24
|> 
|> Dubear

I agree totally! How 'bout Dan Reeves to Detroit ?
From: jim@scf16.scf.loral.com (Jim Livesey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Rams
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:40:20 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.pro.football
Organization: Loral Space and Range Systems, Sunnyvale, CA


The Rams defense did quite well against Whiners at Candlesuck Park.

But alas... As always they folded in  the end..

There defense in improving and by next year should be 
quite a formidable opponent.
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From: ingram@dirac.phys.washington.edu (Doug Ingram)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 49ers whip Dallas in NFC Championship.
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:57:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: dirac.ingram.721673820
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington

49ers@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Renie Maycon) writes:

>The 49ers will ship Dallas in the NFC Championship game. because dallas is a 
>young team that will fold under pressure. Any Comments?

	Why don't you go hang out in Philadelphia and tell them all the
story of the "the catch" and let them reminisce to you about their 31-7
MNF win over Dallas earlier this year?  In the meantime, we'll keep a
watch on the games and let you know when the NFC championship is over
so we can all join together and make fun of AFC fans.

Doug Ingram -- ingram@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: greg@puck.webo.dg.com ()
Subject: Re: TO DOLPHAN FROM BUFFALO: I LAUGH AT YOU!!!
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 92 23:09:49 GMT
Reply-To: greg@puck.webo.dg.com
Organization: NSDD-X.500, Data General Corp.

In article <1992Nov2.051408.22569@ncsu.edu>, delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> 
|>   You thought the Dolphins would be the answer to your fill your huge
|> ego... Well, I hate to tell you, but your Dolphins just lost two games
|> in a ROW to below-average teams.. both in the AFC East!! Well, since I
|> am not in the trashing type of mood, I leave you to your loss to the
|> Jets. I love talking trash for fun, but you step beyond the bounds of
|> fun.. you turn it into some kind of personal vendetta against all Bills
|> fans.. Even personally insulting people.. That is why I hate people like
|> you.. You make woofing so unbearable, and that's why people can't have fun.
|> 
|> I want to personally that Doug the Dolfan for making it fun.. this other
|> guy from Buffalo ruins it for all us Buffalo and Miami fans.. Rivalry is
|> not about personal attacks, but team attacks. Doug has learned that lesson;
|> You have not. So, learn from others....
|> 
|> BILLS  BILLS  BILLS  BILLS!!!!!

I wouldn't whooping it up so fast, the Bills have looked like shit the past
few weeks , including their wins, they were lucky to get away with what they
have, there no world beaters, that's for sure, and Bills fans sure talk like 
they are,
 
Greg



















|>   /  )      /)  /)       //        /  )    // //     /
|>  /--<  . . //  //  __.  // __     /--<  o // // _   '
|> /___/_(_/_//__//__(_/|_</_(_)    /___/_<_</_</_/_) o
|>          />  />
|>         </  </
|> 
|> Reporter: "Who do you think is the best running back in the NFL?"
|> Thurman Thomas: "The running back that went to Oklahoma State".
From: jdhl@troi.cc.rochester.edu (papa_sm00sh)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bills D
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:49:18 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Nov8.062612.19295@col.hp.com> kary@col.hp.com (Dan Kary) writes:

>iqrh_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Imran Qureshi) writes:
>> Losers????  If the 2nd best record in football (by two games) is a bunch of
>> losers, than what exactly are winners???!!!??

>For what period of time is this true?  For what team is this true?
>I thought you were talking about Buffalo.

The Bills are 7-2, the pokes are 8-1... 2nd best record in the league
(tied with a few others also).

jason
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: sybesma@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Eric Sybesma)
Subject: Re: Koontz Computer Predictions - Week 11
Keywords: computer, picks, predictions
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:52:28 GMT

In article <1261@fozzy.UUCP> ckoontz@fozzy.UUCP (Carl H. Koontz) writes:
>Well, I should have known that as soon as I made my picks public I would have
>a bad week. I was 6-8 last week bringing my yearly total to a still impressive
Please.
With your algorithm there is no way you could have an impressive record
>Here are my picks for Week 11:
>
>Detroit  10
>Pittsburgh  9
Get serious!
>
>LA Rams  27
>Dallas   23
WHo are you kidding?
>
>Philadelphia  3
>Green Bay    38
Don't quit your day job.

>Phoenix  30
>Atlanta  51
Doubt Billy Joe Tolliver will lead his team to 51 points

>Houston    3
>Minnesota 51
How do you expect to get the spread on this one?

>New England  24
>Indianapolis 21
Computer regularly picks upsets.

>Comments welcome.
Go back and get a real program.
>Carl


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From: twolf@cs.utah.edu (Tom Wolf)
Subject: Re: Montana throwing again...ho hum
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:39:17 MST
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

In article <1992Nov11.172209.7534@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.043554.13054@cis.ohio-state.edu> martens@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens) writes:
>>In article <15424@auspex-gw.auspex.com> ben@auspex.com writes:
>>>
>>>I want to see Montana Back but not this year . The last thing I wan't to see
>>>is another quarterback controversy in SF/Bay Area they are doing great right
>>>now with Steve Young why change it .
>>
>I'd say this season is pretty clear.  Barring injury or some incredible
>slump, Young is the starter for the year.  They might or might not
>activate Montana to serve as backup, depending on his injury's progress.
>It's next year that the hard decisions come.  I think Montana's statement
>about wanting to play is directed towards next year.

Yes, that is basically what Montana said during the Monday night interview.
That he could/would accept being on the bench this year, but that next year
he expected to start. Who wouldn't want a QB to feel like he should start
next year? Montana realizes that this year's job is Young's to loose.


>Assuming he does come back healthy, and shows no sign of his injury slowing
>him down, what do the 49er's do, then?  Start him in place of one of the top
>rated quarterbacks in the league?  Trade one of the best quarterbacks ever,
>when he still seems to have some playing value?  (Bound to be an unpopular
>decision with the fans, too.)  Try to convince Montana to wait around on
>the bench, when clearly, if his time hasn't run out, it's running?

The best thing would be to have the two go head-to-head and compete for the
starting job. There should be no problem keeping 2 QB's. Most teams do not
make it through a full season with just one. 

Tom
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