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From: me@comstore.uark.edu (My Account)
Subject: Re: Amnesty Report on Left Front Govt. in Bengal
Organization: University of Arkansas
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:16:44 GMT

In article <samaddar.711727307@dumbo> samaddar@siemens.com (Sumitro  
Samaddar) writes:
> THS1@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> 
> >>      The Left Front in West Bengal is caught in a web of  
dissimulation
> >>over an Amnest report that 43 deaths occurred in police custody in the
> >>state between 1985 to 1991 out of a total of 415 deaths all over  
India.
> >>[...deleted...]
> >>S. Kumar
> 
> >I don't understand something here. If the Amnesty report is credible,  
then
> >deaths are occurring in police custody in other places besides West  
Bengal
> >too. So why point finger only at the Left Front Govt? They may be no  
better
> >than other parties, but are they significantly worse?

I am astonished that someone is defending WB left front govt.for having  
comparatively lower number of death in police custody. Can't you see that  
if you defend a govt. in these kind of issues, they will never do anything  
to mend their ways. It seems that in absence of any other viable  
alternative in WB, the CPM govt has become virtually autocratic. We need a  
third alternative. Probably that is why in 1991, BJP got 11% vote, that  
too mostly in the urban elite constituencies.-- A.Sen.

> 
> Going by WB's population ratio (66 million out of 880 million in India),
> they should have about 32 deaths. But once you include exceptions such  
as
> Punjab and J&K, then the police custody death rate in WB seem even  
higher.
> 
> Sumitro
From: RAJA@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Calcutta: Do we really have any solution?
Date: 29 Jul 92 03:17:14 GMT
 <92210.142137DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu> <1992Jul29.011511.28576@eecs.nwu.edu>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Jul29.011511.28576@eecs.nwu.edu>, goswami@eecs.nwu.edu (Ambarish
Goswami) says:
>
>In article <92210.142137DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu> DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu (Deepak
>Srivastava) writes:
>>I have been following this debate for some time now.
>>
>>Strange that all sorts of labeles are thrown on the
>>CPM government in West Bengal. To an outsider like
>>me, however, it appears that these are very reflective
>>of only bhadralok bengalis in and around Calcutta.
>>
>>After all what is the basis of CPM's power in WB ?
>>Is it simply a massive pole rigging that continues
>>year after year ? No. Because no where in national
>>media I have read anything which happens only in WB
>>elections but is not commonly practiced in the nei-
>>ghboring states of Orissa and Bihar.
>>
>>So why do CPM keeps coming back, year after year, as
>>a democratically elected government ? May be the people
>>in the rural WB do want to see them come back to power
>>again and again.
>>
>>But what about bhadralok bengalis in and around calc-
>>utta ? Make calcutta a union territory. And it should
>>be ruled only by bhadralok bengalis and their inte-
>>llectual offsprings in USA :->.
>>
>>Will Calcuttans then have any solution ? No. And the clue
>>is...

           Something I would like to say to all calcutta bashers. Some of you a
re going to snicker but that goes with the territory.

         There is something a sensitive person can feel in Calcutta despite the
 complete chaos in the city. It is the spiritual vibration in the city and the
obvious idealism of the people who live there. believe me I have met many a Ban
ga Bandhu who craves to speak the MatruBhasha and drink tea in those sise stall
s near Golpark. Adda for hours ranging over things known and unknown

and the "adjustments" made in the buses etc.etc. And finally there is nought to
 match the Luchi and Dal at Dakhineswar the Kali Temple. Thre pure pleasure of
sitting in the room where the sage Ramakrishna spent a large part of his life a
nd what else meditating.

Above all Calcutta has trams the pollution free transport of the 90's and the 2
0's I hasten to add.
From: amit@alice.att.com (Amit Gupta)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Rapists on the payroll of CPI(M).
Keywords: Spineless society
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:21:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.23280
Reply-To: amit@alice.UUCP ()
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T, Bell Labs

In article <22JUL199210221297@vax2.concordia.ca> debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE) writes:
:In article <1992Jul21.144822.21157@engr.uark.edu>, me@comstore.uark.edu 
:(My Account) writes...
:>......(deleted).....
:>I would like to say that the Calcutta Police department should immediately  
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:>conduct a public trial of the criminals and they should be given life  
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:>imprisonment without bail.  
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[D E L E T E D]

I am really surprised. I have looked through all the follow-ups to this 
article, and every single one echoed the same sentiment. Is there absolutely
no regard whatsoever for human rights? It is interesting that the punishment
(life imprisonment without bail) has been decided with absolutely no regard
to the judicial process ("the Police department should conduct a public trial
and the punishment .."). Is this the same SCI where we read countless articles
about human rights abuses, in India & Pakistan & in other countries, and in
which Justice Bains' case is actively followed?

Pl note that I am not condoning the rapes in any way whasoever. But I am 
shocked that there is no consideration for the rights of the accused. 

I am no CPM supporter (not that that should matter anyway); but I am really
surprised that the CPM cadres have been pronounced guilty, IMHO,without any
evidence whatsoever. I fear for the day  when judicial decisions will be made
on the basis of public opinion. Truth will be the first casuality.

Well-reasoned followup are welcome. Flames will be ignored, as usual.

-amit
Amit Gupta
amit@research.att.com

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: nambori@einstein..acs.umbc.edu ()
Subject: Looking for Guruprasad, Birk-Beck College, Univ. of London
Followup-To: Looking for Guruprasad
Summary: Seeking information
Keywords: Dept. of Crystallography, Birk-Beck College, Univ. of London
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore County
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:50:35 GMT


	Hai folks,

   This is a follow-up to the earlier posting trying to 
   locate Mr. Guru Prasad.....!!


		This is Ramana Raju from UMBC, Baltimore,US.
	I am looking for one Mr. GURU PRASAD who is pursuing a 
	Ph.D at Birk-Beck College, Univ. of London.  Infact he
	should be in the Dept. of Crystallography.
	
		I would like to get in touch with Mr. Guruprasad,
	who hails from Hyderabad,India. Also, he was employed with
	CCMB, Hyd., before moving to the Univ. of London.

		I will appreciate, if some one out there could
	pass on this message to Guruprasad and further all my details 
	are given below.
			
	Thanks.

nambori@plato.engr.umbc.edu

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From: chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Olympics Opening Cermony.
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:51:00 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

shoroff@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bart Simpson) writes:

(  LOTS OF GARBAGE IS DELETED)

You f***ing fellow, you should have seen my follow up to the
posting that you are referring to. I clearly apologized for
my mistake. Do you think you are a smart a**? F*** off.

---Sreehari.

: P.S: turned out longer than intended, please sprinkle smileys where deemed
: necessary. I hate prompting people like in those TV comedies where you have
: these people roaring with laughter in the background and you sit watching 
: like a jerk not quite knowing if you got it! 
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From: shoroff@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bart Simpson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Olympics Opening Cermony.
Date: 30 Jul 92 23:09:26 GMT
Organization: Univ of Texas at Austin

In article <824@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala) writes:
>RAJA@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:
>: >:
>: At least get the name right, It is Bob Costas. I doubt you will geyt an apology
>: We don't have a large enough GNP.
>: 
>: cheers...Rajagopalan
>
>Where did hear or notice Bob Costas(sounds very funny)? I am
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The last time we all went alligator hunting in the amazon rain forests.

>100% sure that he is Bob Castner(or Costner). I will give you

The next time you're sure of something make sure you say you're 200% sure, coz
we know what you mean by 100% sure! And methinks you're slightly confused 
between that guy in the olympics and the other one who shows up in movies 
trying to dance with wolves, foxes etc..

>101% correct answer tommorow. OK. Stay cool.

We all know it today itself, so stay cool!
Oh, if you dont know yet, they've cancelled all the commercials in today's
telecast and replaced 'em with Bob's apologies, so you're gonna have a 
cool time seeing him acqueisce in your demand while getting to know his 
REAL name as a bonus FREE gift!

>
>---Sreehari(call Harisree if you want)

eGgawd! you're my namesake!

Srihari

P.S: turned out longer than intended, please sprinkle smileys where deemed
necessary. I hate prompting people like in those TV comedies where you have
these people roaring with laughter in the background and you sit watching 
like a jerk not quite knowing if you got it! 
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:54:43 EDT
From: <UJD100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: APARTMENT WANTED NEAR U.PITT



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From: ICKUL@ASUACAD.BITNET
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: MEN of EASTERN origin
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:31:54 GMT
 <92209.133627ICKUL@ASUACAD.BITNET> <5a35c7eb.1b2f0@digital.sps.mot.com>
Organization: Arizona State University

Yes I can call them charming/intelligent/etc.  And sensitive and honorable
and adorable and truthful.  I know of one who embodies all those qualities.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: smitra@sophia.smith.edu (Sramana Mitra)
Subject: Re: Changing role of women - a woman's perspective
Organization: Smith College
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:03:38 GMT

>clear in my post, that I do NOT support extra-marital relationships.
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> Wait a second, accuse me of being naive, but could you tell me
> what's wrong with extra-marital relationships, or rather why
> you don't support extra-marital relationships.

Let me give you a hypothetical situation. Say, your parents are not happy
with their marriage - one way or the other - and you are about 8 years old.
Your mother screws around, and so does your father. (Remember you are in 
INDIA)... Relatives talk, your cousins torture you with abuse, and you
yourself are so utterly confused, that you don't know what to do, how to think,
and what to model your value-system after! Would you enjoy it?

When you say you support something, put yourself in a situation like that,
and see how you would feel. I'm sure you will have several arguments to
this, and who knows? - you may even have liked to be in a situation like
that. I would not. I've had a very nice childhood, and I don't think I
would have liked to be in such a situation. And I very much doubt that my
child would. (I don't have one ... )

> the sex part somewhere else. I mean sex could be just a physical action
> not necessarily a culmination of your love as one nettor put it.

Call me a romantic, but, I don't have faith in that kind of sex. Sex without
love is not something I can't do without. 

> Even masturbation after all is making love with oneself, that
> could technically be extra-marital would'nt you say ;-)

No I wouldn't. You know very well what we are talking about... 

Sramana



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.women,talk.abortion
From: sgs@ucs.usl.edu (Sudhindranath SG)
Subject: Re: Abortion and the status of Indian women
Summary:  Solving Indian women's problems ---- what route should we take ?
Keywords: India, women, West.
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:41:07 GMT

In article <92210.081500RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>        There was recently a posting by an Indian bemoaning the position of
>    women in India and ending up  with a support for a pro-choice  position
>    in what appeared to be a  partial apology.  I cannot find the  posting,
>    but the issue is important so I will respond.
>
[rest of the article deleted]

I have always felt that any attempt to solve the problems of our 
women should derive its force from our own culture and heritage. By
heritage, I do not mean what has happened in the last 20 or 30 generations.
A lot of injustice has been done to women for a long time. But India
has a very, very long history and this has to be borne in mind when we
think of solutions.

In its relatively short span of existence, the attitude of the West 
towards its women is to treat them as objects. This may sound rather 
surprising especially when the West is regarded as having "progressed" 
because it achieved "equality" of the sexes. In reality, it only resulted 
in forcing the women to fend for themselves, something that is evidenced 
by the plight of the numerous single-parent families here. (I feel that the 
number of single-parent families led by _fathers_ is relatively very
small. If anybody has any concrete information, he/she may clarify.)

The reaction of the women here is a kind of backlash to being 
treated as objects. It is a local reaction to a local phenomenon
and as such, cannot even serve as an alternative when we think
of solving the problems faced by Indian women.

Even if we force ourselves to regard this as an alternative, we
have to consider this ---- the West has _never_ in the past or 
even now, respected its women, in the true sense of the word.
India _has_ a past where its women were respected in the society,
though sadly, it is no longer true at present.  So, when we
look for solutions, what is the option that we should take ?
The answer, at least to me, is obvious.


>         Rohit Parikh

Regards,

--Sudhi.

-- 
                          Sira Gopinath Sudhindranath. 
email : sudhi@usl.edu, sgs@ucs.usl.edu           Phone : (318)-232-2198 (r), 
						         (318)-231-6539 (o)
From: som@top.cis.syr.edu (Tapas Som)
Subject: Graphics package based on X11 - Help requested
Organization: Syracuse University, CIS Dept.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 14:33:52 EDT



	A question for the net gurus in X window system. 

	I am looking for a graphics package based on X11 (something on the
	line of the 'xgraph ' package). It should be able to read the 
	inputs and options from a text file and produce the display on 
	the screen ( I use Sun/Unix platform) with hard copy options
	(I use a postscript printer). I have used the xgraph package which
	 I found  has very limited number of options. Therefore, I am looking 
	for something more powerfull than xgraph.
	

	Please reply by email to:

	som@top.cis.syr.edu
From: banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: US National Debt
Date: 24 Jul 1992 16:44:45 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phad.hsc.usc.edu

In article <1992Jul24.230122.8387@news2.cis.umn.edu> crick@scrapie.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD)) writes:
>>
>
>You must be one of these pious vegetarians, otherwise you would know that
>a Big Mac doesn't contain ketchup.  Whoppers maybe, but not the Big Mac.
>

I am not so sure. Maybe some other people can give their valued judgement

>As far as Dan Quayle, you are very generous in assuming that he has brain
>cells. Is that because you admire his intellect?
>

Does he have an intellect? I think that's why he has survived as Vice
President for so long. It really doesnt take much to run this country
and Quale proves it every time he opens his mouth.

Samit
From: vijay@efim.austin.ibm.com (Vijay Joglekar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: CFV: alt.us.visas
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:31:37 GMT
Reply-To: vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM (Aix Tools Development)

How about creating a group called alt.us.visas.  By the addition of this 
group we could help folks mostly interested in visa information from any 
country to get that information easily.  A FAQ will also be helpful. 
This will moderate many of the soc groups. 


**********************************************************************
               Vijay Joglekar - arbiter elagantiarum
 Disclaimer: These are my opinions and my opinions only. Has nothing
                      to do with where I work.
            Littera scripta manet: Credo quia absurdum
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: chepan@gsusgi1.gsu.edu (Parthasarathy Nambi)
Subject: Re: PBS debate on supercollider...
Organization: Georgia State University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:39:01 GMT

vst4155@zeus.tamu.edu (VIKRAM) writes:

> Yes, I watched the program on PBS news hour.  Prof. Rustom Roy's
>facial expressions and the rhetoric seemed like he had to win the 
>debate.  I was quite pleased to see an Indian expert speak on this 
>issue, but his tone was very confrontational, contrary to three other 
>speakers.  He had some valid points which he could have brought 
>forward in a better way..


 Professor Rustom Roy is well-known in scientific circles.  He has written
 extensively in magazines such as 'Science', 'Chemical & Engineering
 News' etc. mostly letters to editors sort of stuff.  He is the one
 who made a statement something to the effect:"... (some) scientists are
 well fare queens in white coats...." (I don't remember the exact quote
 but it ruffled feathers among some scientists.  I know of at least one
 scientist who got visibly angree when he read that statement of his.

 He is apparently a very distinguished scientist at Penn State and I
 do agree with some of his points, even though I don't like the *way*
 he tries to get his (good) points across - these are just MO.

 Nambi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Angola vs India
From: <TXK9@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:05:45 EDT
Organization: Penn State University

 It was interesting to note that Angola with a population of
10 million, with 2 indoor courts and 250 serious players in the
entire country made it to the olympics basketball finals. I wonder when
India can dream of sending its basketball and vollyball teams to
olympics.
From: sehgals@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (DREAM TEAM)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: HELP!!!  NEED INDIAN DJ
Date: 29 Jul 92 08:10:48 EST

Hello

I was wondering if anybody has any information on INDIAN DJ'S???????  I'm
looking for someone who can play a good combination of Indian dance music!

Being in Ohio, I am having a VERY HARD time finding someone that does this on a
regular basis!  I heard that there is a large variety of Disc Jockey's on the
East Coast!!

I would appreciate any help that I can get!!!

Thanks in advance!

Sanjay Sehgal

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ramakrishna Chada)
Subject: Re: Letter to NBC
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 02:29:30 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

In article <1992Jul29.180529.1842@csrd.uiuc.edu> ghosh@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Sanjoy Ghosh) writes:
>rgopu@cs.tamu.edu (Rangarathnam Gopu) writes:
>
>>Public Relations Officer
>>NBC
>>30, Rockefeller Plaza 
>>New York, NY 10022
>>
>>Sir / Madam
>>
>>        It is bad enough that almost all the news reports about India and her
>>        neighbors portray only the negative side of those countries. Please
>>        do not let your apparent ignorance and condescending attitudes seep
>>        into sports coverage too.
>
>I am sure dear sir/madam will be very relieved to know that you don't
>particularly mind their apparent ignorance and condescending attitudes 
>as long as they know their place, and confine it to news stories.  As 
>long as they don't get above themselves and venture into hallowed ground, 
>the sacrosanct world of Sports its no big deal.
>
>All the same, it was nice of you to write,
>Sanjoy Ghosh
>ghosh@csrd.uiuc.edu

If you can fucking do any better than that
do it. Dont put your worthless opinions on
the net.

It wasn't nice of you to write to trash the 
net.

Ramakrishna

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: arun@sun14.vlsi.waterloo.edu (Arun Achyuthan)
Subject: Indian athletes at Barcelona
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:01:27 GMT

Performance of Indian athletes at Barcelona:

Field Hockey:

India - 0    Germany - 3
India - 1    Argentina - 0

Weightlifting:

52kg class: Shekharan (?) 10th overall

Greco-Roman wrestling:

48kg class: Pappu Yadav wins his first bout

Boxing:

P. Venkatesan (?) wins his first bout, loses the second to a Cuban (52kg class)

Tennis:

Jim Courier (no. 1 seed) defeats Ramesh Krishnan in four sets

Badminton:

Vimal kumar lost to a Danish player in the first round (15-6, 15-6).

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Arun
From: guptar@ucs.orst.edu (gupta rakesh forest products)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: email address of IIT-Bombay
Date: 21 Jul 1992 13:41:51 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu





Hi

Is there any netter who is in contact with some one in the Department of
Electrical Engineering at IIT-Bombay.  I am trying to get email address of DR.
GIRISH KUMAR. He joined the Department last year. Or is there any other way to
get his email address? 
Thank You

Rakesh Gupta
GUPTAR@UCS.ORST.EDU
Please send reply to me. Thanks again