HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dd2u@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (David  Drucker)
Subject: Re: Looking for X10 controller interface
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 04:34:18 GMT

mstov@cbnewsb.cb.att.com  writes:
> Hi!
> 
> Does anyone know of a Mac interface to X10 home control stuff?  I would like
> to play around with controlling devices from my Mac and would like to find an
> X10 interface box that can be connected to the serial port or a nubus slot.
> 
> Also, if you know where I can find more information about the X10 protocol,
> please send me pointers.  If there is interest, I will summarize to the net.

Mike,
    The last known address for the X-10 (USA) INC. is/was
185A LeGrande Ave.
Northvale, NJ    07647
(201)784-9700

I have the IBM version and the MAC is available as well as the
codes needed to "do it your self".

DAK was the main supplier for awhile but I also do not know if
they still sell them.


David Drucker
Curry School of Education
UVA
DD2U@virginia.edu
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From: avlb@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (A V Louis Biggie)
Subject: Re: * Looking for info on SupraFax modem (14400)
Reply-To: avlb@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (A V Louis Biggie)
Organization: JHU/Applied Physics Laboratory
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:35:06 GMT

I have not used the SUPRA, but have used various other FAX modems both on PCs 
and MACS, and they work something like this.  The FAX software intercepts the 
print command and writes out a file to disk.  It then dials the phone and 
sends the data in that file to a fax machine. Effectively, this means you 
have a printer in virtually every office in the world.  If you receive a fax, 
you can save it as an image file and then send it through an OCR program - I 
use OMNIPAGE.

I have heard many good things about the SUPRA.

Louis



Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: aj@lew.rosemount.com (Andy Joe)
Subject: 128MB Optical Drives, Syquest, Bernoulli?
Keywords: Optical, Syquest, Bernoulli
Organization: Rosemount, Inc.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:57:02 GMT

Does anybody have any experiences with the 128MB Optical Drives
that are available?  How do they compare with the Bernoulli's and Syquest?

I'm curious as to how reliable they are.  I know that the main drive price
is higher than the other two, but when you add in the price of extra
disks etc. (the 3.5 inch disk are approx $50), the price/meg seems to be
comparable.

thanxs.

aj.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: rpadawer@utkvx2.utk.edu (Padawer, Justin Randall)
Subject: LOOKING FOR CITIDOLLAR PAL
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 00:23:00 GMT

I'd love to take advantage of the Citidollar (Citibank) PowerBook
offer... can anyone help?

Randy
RPADAWER@UTKVX.UTK.EDU
(please email)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: w.l.vaughn@LaRC.NASA.GOV (Wallace L. Vaughn)
Subject: Re: Question about SCSI on Mac 512ke
Reply-To: w.l.vaughn@LaRC.NASA.GOV (Wallace L. Vaughn)
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA USA
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 13:31:57 GMT

> Netters,

>A colleague of mine is interested in buying an external hard drive for her
>512ke, and is interested in a couple of different models from different
>manufacturers.  They all have something in common: they hook up to the SCSI
>port.

>It's been _ages_ since I fooled around with a 512ke, and her comment (upon
>looking at the back of the SE on my desk) was, "All those symbols are 
>different now, and there are a lot more of these." (the last said while
>pointing to an ADB-style plug.

>Help me out, folks.  Can a circa 1992 SCSI device plug into the back of an
>old Mac 512ke or not?  Now _I'm_ confused!

>Thanks...

>-- Brian

A hard drive was available from Apple, a non-scsi 20 meg drive, which would connect to the 
external floppy port, however no SCSI drives can be connected.  

A solution is to upgrade the 512KE to PLUS status with an upgrade that includes a SCSI port. I 
upgraded mine but the cost for SCSI and 4MB is over $300, or only slightly less than a used 
Mac Plus.  I havn't scrapped up the cash for a drive yet so I can't tell if the SCSI port worked or 
not. But I do have plenty of memory now. I believe that SCCI only upgrades may also be available.

your welcome

Wally


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: cp@joker.mil.ufl.edu (Costas Papas)
Subject: LC upgrade??? Magic MATH 030?? comments??
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 04:21:45 GMT

Hi,

My brother got an LC.  He wants to upgrade it.

He heard about "Magic MATH 030".  It is advertized in MacUser.
The add says:" ...adds System 7 virtual memory capabilities and build 
in math coprocessor to your mac LC"

any experiances with this board???

Any info or comments would be greatly appreciated.

Costas.
cp@joker.mil.ufl.edu

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From: Eric.Choi@p5.f57.n7000.z8.ieee.org (Eric Choi)
Subject: Re: 4MB SE only shows 2MB?
Organization: FidoNet node 8:7000/57.5 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 23:16:42 GMT

I thought the Plus and SE can have up to 4 megs of RAM unless you add a third
party board or accelerator?
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From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Mode 32 no longer works on my Mac II -- Help!
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:55:20 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <Fuchs-310892084915@rainer-mac.embl-heidelberg.de> Fuchs@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Rainer Fuchs) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.191039.19751@cbfsb.cb.att.com>,
>mstov@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (michael.p.stovsky) wrote:
>> 
>> I've recently replaced the hard disk on my Mac II due to the death of my old 
>> disk.  In the process of replacing it, I reinstalled System 7.0.1, my 
>> control panel devices, extentions, etc.  I also installed Tune-Up 1.1.1.
>> 
>> I ran into a problem when reinstalling Mode 32.  Seems that this time around
>> when I try to activate Mode 32, the bell rings and it won't activate.
>> If I try to reboot the system, it comes up part way (i.e., gets as far as
>> the "Welcome to Macintosh screen) and dies.  It repeats this cycle until I 
>> boot from a floppy.  Then I have to reinstall a fresh copy of the system
>> on my hard disk.
>
>I ran into the same problem recently. After two days of backing up,
>reformating, reinstalling, etc. I finally concluded that MODE32 seems to be
>incompatible with certain drive brands (or the other way around, depends on
>your view).
>I tried different driver software,eg SilverLining, FWD, Apple, etc. with
>the same (negative) result. There are no problems if I boot from a SyQuest
>cartridge. I eventually gave up and decided to buy a small 30MB disk to
>boot from.

This is the infamous Unit Attention problem (ref--tech note on Mac
Plus ROM bugs, but this affects the Mac II as well)
surfacing in a different way.  If your drive supports disabling Unit
Attention (try tech support, you might get lucky), do that.
If not, you can cut the SCSI Reset line on the cable-- not
recommended, as then drive hangs mean you have to power cycle the
drive.  A third solution that worked with my Wren was to make the
drive internal-- apparantely the timing caused the mac to 'miss' the
Unit Attention condition.  Probably won't work with all drives.
BTW, holding down escape will bypass the reboot cycle and bring you up
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From: burglin@opal.mgh.harvard.edu (Thomas Burglin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Radius color pivot/LE with powerview
Date: 11 Sep 92 05:18:00 GMT
Organization: Molecular Biology, Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hi, I was interested in how the color pivot/LE works
together with the Powerview interface on a Powerbook.
Has anybody experience with that combination?
From the spec sheets I got from Radius, you can
use the Pivot in only one orientation with the
Powerview (but this is conflicting, one says landscape,
the other says portrait only)
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Does software that doesn't run because of the powerbook
screen limitations (color/resolution) run when
the color pivot is hooked up.
Thanks for any information, please reply
by email
Thomas Burglin
burglin@frodo.mgh.harvard.edu
From: bryanh@stout.gvg.tek.com (Bryan Hilterbrand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: powerbook battery lif
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:04:58 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <laogtlINNab3@nada.cs.utexas.edu> benkei@cs.utexas.edu (William Kent Richards) writes:
>In article <1992Sep7.1164.13909@channel1> "joseph france" <joseph.france@channel1.com> writes:
>
>>GT>With this [LED's Conditioner] I've been able to get 2 - 2.5 hours of
>>GT>useful time on a PB 170 with 2Mb of RAM and 10MB of virtual memory
>>GT>running MS Word 4.0.
> 
>Interesting.  Seems to go against the earlier post's warning against
>draining the batteries all the way.  Anyone know why?

In my manual, they say to NEVER completely drain a PB100's battery.  It
damages the lead-acid batteries to drain them all the way, and they
won't hold a charge as well after that.

They also say to completely drain the PB140 and PB170's memory once a
month (or so).  They claim that it aids the lithium batteries, and they
will hold a charge better if you do this.

By the way -- THIS IS FROM MEMORY; check your own manual before doing
any of this!!

With my PB100, I'm getting about one hour of heavy-duty use on a charge
(heavy-duty means accessing the HD a lot, and the HD never spins down).
I'm planning on upgrading the memory so I can use a RAM disk.  Does
anyone have recommendations for the partitioning of the memory?  I was
considering 3Mb RAM and 5Mb RAM disk.

Bryan


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From: gt1111a@prism.gatech.EDU (Vincent Fox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: PB100: 3rd party batteries with longer life?
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:15:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I think I've seen this discussed before, but forget the answer.
Does anyone make a better battery to replace the lead-acid the PB100
uses? Seems like nickel-hydride or something more exotic would give
much better energy density. I have seen some brick-sized externals,
but I'm more interested in a longer-lived internal.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ctt31684@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ching Tai)
Subject: Mac 256k simms, 12 for $30 (include shipping)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 17:37:57 GMT

These are 256k * 8 and some are 256k * 9, and they can all be used in Mac
systems.  If you're in UIUC or can get your machine here, I'll install them
for you; otherwise, you're on your own (but, hey, installing simms is real
easy, I'll try to help you through emails if you need it).

I'll sell them for $12 for 1MB (ie 4 of them).

All prices include shipping.  These simms work 100%.  The brands are NEC, TI
100ns, 120ns, 150ns.  They will work in Macs up to IIcx

reply via email, or phone (217) 332-2161
From: howes@cat2.cs.wisc.edu (Glenn Howes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Wanted Laser Printer Suggestions
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:38:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.



My boss has asked me to find a laser printer that has the following specs:
600 dpi
Postscript
AutoSwitching between Serial, AppleTalk and Parallel ports.
Does anyone know of a printer that has all of these, I realize that the 
Personal LaserWriter NTR has the second 2, but I'd like to find one with all
of the above.


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From: benkei@cs.utexas.edu (William Kent Richards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: powerbook battery lif
Date: 12 Sep 1992 14:56:00 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: nada.cs.utexas.edu

In article <wingo-080992101208@zardoz.apple.com> wingo@apple.com (Tony Wingo) writes:

>I would assume that a "Power Conditioner" would have enough logic in it to
>avoid reversing a cell (which is the danger with manually discharging a
>nicad).

Could be... Tho if the cells are simply in series, then there's nothing
the device could do.  It would have to attach to either end, and
would be no different than attaching any other load.
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From: df2tg2n@ties.bell-atl.com (Steve Rosen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.wanted
Subject: TechWorks IIsi Cache Card
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:26:06 GMT
Reply-To: df2tg2n@shoes.bell-atl.com
Organization: Bell Atlantic - Phila, PA

Is anybody using the TechWorks IIsi cache card?  This is a fairly new
product and I haven't seen it formally advertised for sale, except from the
company.  If you have one, I have a simple question or two about it.

Thanks!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: zben@ni.umd.edu (Charles B. Cranston)
Subject: Re: hardware manuals
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: UM Home for the Terminally Analytical
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 01:02:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.135156.4343@athena.mit.edu>,
consi@athena.mit.edu (Thomas R Consi) wrote:

> 	Does anyone know when Apple is going to publish an updated
> Hardware Manual?  The latest edition I could find only goes as far
> as the Mac IIfx, I need information on the Mac IIsi.  It seems as if
> new hardware releases are outpacing the documentation by a generation
> or two!    

The Cards and Drivers book from Addison Wesley is into Third Edition
and it has a certain amount of information about newer Mac models.
Also check out the Developer's Notes on the Developer CD...

zben@ni.umd.edu     -KA3ZDF
From: hp48sx@wupost.wustl.edu (HP48SX Archive Maintainer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Disadvantages of System 7 (Was: IIsi vs new Macs - should I wait?)
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:27:50 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: wuarchive.wustl.edu

There is much more reason in upgrading to system 7, than it is to
upgrade from word 4 to word 5. There are lots of new features in system
7, not that many in word 5. And word 5 is sloooow, at least it is too
slow for me, and I am using an SE/30. I know a few students who also
downgraded their pirated versions.

Word 5 is a step back, but system 7 is leap forward.
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From: faisal@dvorak.amd.com (Faisal M. Bhamani)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: TV Receiver for mac??
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:29:07 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas

I saw this weekend a video card for PCs that allows you to watch TV
through a VGA or better monitor.  Is there such a thing for the macs??

The quality of the picture and sound was pretty good and it sold for 
about $300 (I think).  It would be nice to have a small tv screen in the
corner of the screen so you could watch tv while working.

faisal
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: awolfe@moo.Princeton.EDU (Andrew Wolfe)
Subject: Re: powerbook battery lif
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:01:44 GMT

|> 
|> 
|> Sorry Andrew, it's your memory that needs the work.  William is right,
|> the PB100 uses the lead acid according to the owners manual.  This is
|> also consistent with the PB100 being an inexpensive model and with the
|> weight of the battery.  The rest of the PB series does not use
|> lead-acid, they use NiCads I believe.  William is also correct in
|> saying to not completely discharge the PB100's battery.  NiCads like to
|> be completely discharged, l-a batteries hate it.
|> 
|> 	Robert Bedichek


Whoops - 50% wrong.  I've done worse...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: kanefsky@halcyon.com (Steve Kanefsky)
Subject: Re: Daystar Powercache (need info...)
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 21:40:46 GMT

In article <1901vqINNkah@burr.cs.utexas.edu> newton@cs.utexas.edu (Peter Newton) writes:
>> I'd really appreciate it if someone could post or email to me some
>> Speedometer readings on IIfx's and/or Quadra 700's.  I'd be interested
>> to see how an accelerated LC II compares to those machines.
>
>Thanks for posting all that great information of Daystar.  Sounds like
>a fine product.  Here are some Speedometer 3.1 numbers for a Quadra
>700 with caches on, 8 MB RAM, virtual memory off, 24 bit mode, and an
>internal Quantum 80 disk.
>
>Perf. Rating
>   CPU  16.2
>   Graphics 18.9
>   Disk 2.0
>   Math 100.3
>   Overall 22.6
>
>Bench Ave 47.6
>FPU Ave 9.12
>Color Ave 4.55


Thanks for posting the Quadra benchmark results.  The FPU really skews
not only the Math and FPU results, but also the Overall and Bench
Average.

My guess is that with the FPU, the LC II with 50mhz PowerCache would be 20-
30% slower in all the CPU and math-related benchmarks.  The disk benchmarks
seem to be limited in both cases by the disk itself (virtually identical
readings) so we can't tell how much better the Quadra might be without
faster disk drives.  The graphics performance of the Quadra seems to be
the big difference, and you can't even put a graphics card in the LC II
once the accelerator is in there.

I expect that the 33mhz '040 PowerCache due out soon will beat the
Quadra 700 and 900 on the Math and CPU related stuff, and be very close to
(possibly even ahead of) the Quadra 950 in these areas.  The 16-bit data
path of the LC II has very little effect once you go to an external
cache.  The Quadras will be somewhat faster in SCSI transfers (if you
have a fast enough disk to bring out the difference) and will be much 
better in graphics performance (not to mention the ability to drive big 
monitors).  Naturally the Quadras have a lot of expansion capabilities 
(including RAM) that the LC II doesn't have.  Nevertheless, for tons of 
raw power in a very small box for relatively little money, I can't see how 
the LC II/PowerCache combo can be beat.

Thanks again,

--
Steve Kanefsky
From: rand@muttley.ucsd.edu (Rand Steiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Value of FX?
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:53:44 GMT
Organization: Department of Music, UC San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: muttley.ucsd.edu

I am interested in selling my FX. It has 8mb memory, a 140mb drive, and
a 13" hi-res color monitor with a 24 bit video board. What is the fair 
value of this set up? Any opinions would be appreciated. Thanks.
From: hue@pro-freedom.cts.com (Scott Hudziak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Chip Merchant
Date: 8 Sep 92 01:23:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Sep7.182315.2367
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

Did anyone ever happen to mention what their number was? I seemed ot have
missed that reply.
 
hue
hue@pro-freedom.cts.com

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From: 21602MR@MSU (Mark Rosenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Best paper for HP DeskWriter?
Date: 12 Sep 92 00:58:13 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

I found some 24 pound paper at office max - it's by weyerhauser
- first choice quality laser paper...
works great!  :)
From: starta@tosh.UUCP (John Starta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: powerbook battery lif
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:34:32 GMT

awolfe@moo.Princeton.EDU (Andrew Wolfe) writes:

> The PB100 uses Silver-Hydride batteries.  The others use Nickel-Cadmium.

Actually, the PB100 uses Lead-Acid batteries.

john

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From: fhoward@mummy.us.oracle.com (Forrest Howard)
Subject: Pinouts for 5.25" floppy for apple IIe LC card
Organization: Oracle Corp
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:37:44 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

I've seen mention (without method) that it is possible to
convert an old apple ][e drive into an apple 5.25" drive
which is able to work with the apple ][ card in the LC.

Anybody know anything about this?

Thanks, forrest



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Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computer,comp.sys.mac.hardware,su.market,ba.market
From: liao@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Bobby Liao)
Subject: PowerBook 2MB SRAM FOR SALE
Originator: liao@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Keywords: PowerBook SRAM FOR SALE
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: pa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 08:40:50 GMT

3-month old powerbook 2MB SRAM for sale.
I just upgraded my powerbook with a 6MB
module so I have no use for the 2MB SRAM.
It's yours for $80.

Please reply via email.

Bobby
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: bob@iastate.edu (Robert P Kuehne)
Subject: NEW Mac Info NEEDED!!!! (Performa IIvx,vi)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:06:01 GMT

	I am attempting to decide which mac to buy... The IIsi or one of
the Performas.... So, would some kind person please repost or send me
the information from comp.sys.mac.announce, that had all the goods on
these computers (the Performas)?  Thanks!

Bob

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