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From: ST25370@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU
Subject: Re: 4th Dimension -- Disable Button
Organization: LOUISIANA TECH UNIVERSITY
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 15:09:49 CST

In article <1992Oct7.142020.5516@bio.vu.nl>
rgaros@bio.vu.nl (Rene G.A. Ros) writes:
 
>
>rgaros@bio.vu.nl (Rene G.A. Ros) writes:
>: matsj@ios.CMD.UU.SE (Mats Johnson) writes:
>: : A related question, I guess there is no way to disable a popup menu?
>:
>: Yes, you can. In the Field/Object def window you can set the format to '!'.
>: You can do this also with SET FORMAT. Works fine, except when a user
>: clicks on the place where is normally is shown the pop-up still pops up.
>: You can use this only to make it invisible.
>:
>: Also after you used SET FORMAT(Field;"!") you have to use REDRAW(Field).
>:
>Sorry, but correct myself.
>'Field' has to be 'Array' and the format field has not the text 'Format'
>above it but 'not used'.
>
>Rene
>
>************************************************************
>Rene G.A. Ros                         Amsterdam, Netherlands
>rgaros@bio.vu.nl                    rgaros@nikhefk.nikhef.nl
>************************************************************
>My English is niet very well en ook nog not so snel,
>but that comes later wel.
>************************************************************
 
If you also make the array an array of zero elements, it will not show up.
This will require using a second array to actually disply the values, since
making the array zero elements long will erase it.  If you don't mind the
overhead of rebuilding the array from the source before next display, then
you could get away with one array.  A second array, however, should not
require that much memory unless it is really huge, and memory to memory copy
will always be faster than disk to memory.
 
 
 
Bill Jamison
rwj@engr.latech.edu
st25370.vm.cc.latech.edu
From: rsmith@pearl.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: database wanted for bibliography
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:57:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: pearl.1992Oct8.115740.1
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

I've had little use for a database until now, but I find that I have a growing
need for something to keep track of my growing library of photocopies of
journal articles.  (I'm a graduate student in cognitive psychology, so I'm
collecting these things at an alarming rate.)  Any suggestions on what to use? 
I saw a Hypercard stack on sumex-aim that looked promising, but it doesn't
really suit my purposes (I want to be able to search for ANY author of a paper,
and this database only had one author field, just for starters).  I'm not very
concerned with how neatly the data lines up or anything; I just want to be able
to search for an author, title, or subject, and find out everything else I've
entered, including (most importantly) where I've stored the full paper.

I was thinking that one of the integrated packages, like ClarisWorks or
GreatWorks, might suit my purposes for a relatively low price, but I'm not
positive of that.  What about a specialized bibliography database?  Would one
of those provide any advantages over something cheaper?  Does anybody know of a
PD or shareware program that might help me?

I'll try to keep up with this newsgroup for a couple of weeks; after that,
please e-mail responses.  Thanks for any help.

					--Rod Smith
					  RSMITH@PEARL.TUFTS.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: rys@apelc8.inf.ethz.ch (Michael Rys)
Subject: FM Pro 2.0: Index questions
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:55:47 GMT

There are two things which were annoying for me in FM Pro 1:

1. Non-alphabetic characters (as @#$.,) were treated as white-space in Indices.
2. Size limit for Indices of 32 characters were to short if you had to construct
   a catenated field as key for a reference to another file (thus referencing
   the wrong data).

Has any of the above restrictions been addressed by FM Pro 2.0?

Thanks
Michael

PS: Unfortunately I lost the Claris mail address somebody gave me to ask the
question.

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From: folse@crs.cl.msu.edu (Mark Folse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: FoxBase/Mac Error Message
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:17:05 GMT
Reply-To: folse@crs.cl.msu.edu.UUCP (Mark Folse)
Organization: Michigan State University

Had the same problem with applications done on my Quadra when put on a
LocalTalk network of  a IIci, and 2 LC IIs. If I recall correctly, we just
changed the memory allocation in the Get Info Box and the problem went away.



1s
From: Paul.Heller@p391.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Heller)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: FileMaker Pro 2.0 warning
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:11:01 -0500

  TL> I know this doesn't make up for the bug you've mentioned, but such
  TL> problems in general (eg. you update the wrong version of a database
  TL> file) can be avoided by time-stamping (creation/modification date) on
  TL> records automatically, allowing all records created/modified during a
  TL> given period to be separated out and exported to the correct version
  TL> of a file.

I do have "date of creation" and "date last modified" fields in that database,
but that didn't help - the index bug, if it occurs, can hide records completely
so that you just can't get to them - it's as if they're gone.
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: Can't post to 4D@MIT
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:17:39 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

michaelh@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Mike Hennahane) writes:

>i might also add that if you had mail sent back that was addressed to
>4D@mit.edu, the address might be case sensitive. try 4d instead of 4D.

    This is an internet address. It is not case sensitive. If you wanted
to you send it to 4d@MiT.EDu and it would still get there.


--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
  "I'm sorry, I didn't have my hearing aid on. Could you repeat that?"
			  -Admiral Stockdale-
From: nguyen@mimosa.unice.fr (Nguyen Christian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: 4D multi-user mode problem
Keywords: 4D, semaphore
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:05:54 GMT
Organization: University of Nice-Sophia Antipolis
NNTP-Posting-Host: mimosa.unice.fr


Hello !

        I become crazy with this problem : I know that I must lock a record if
a user display it in read/write mode and free the record after its
modification. But a record which was NEVER displayed before in a day make
the same alert box (telling that this record is already displayed by
another user). Do you know what's wrong ?

Thanks in advance.

 ,-,  , ,-
/    /|/
`- -' '
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: bmartin@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Brian Martin)
Subject: Re: Problem with layout updates in 4D
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 12:26:17 GMT

In article <1686A6E96.ST25370@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU> ST25370@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU writes:
>In article <1992Sep21.112316.22572@syma.sussex.ac.uk>
>paulr@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Paul Russell) writes:
> 
>>
>>I have a problem which has really got me stumped - how can
>>I force all or part of a layout to be redrawn immediately ?

The following code should help:

c_integer($page)
$page:=layout page
goto page ($page+10)
goto page ($page)

alternatively, opening then immediately closing a window should
force an update event:

open window (0;0;1;1)
close window

Hope this helps,


    Brian K. Martin, M.D.
    Martin Information Systems, Ltd.
    1103 9th Avenue, Suite 203
    Honolulu, Hawai`i 96816-2403 USA
    Voice (808) 733-2003
    Fax (808) 733-2011

INTERNET: bmartin@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu
CompuServe: 76535,250
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: michaelh@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Mike Hennahane)
Subject: Re: 4D multi-user mode problem
Keywords: 4D, semaphore
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:16:29 GMT

nguyen@mimosa.unice.fr (Nguyen Christian) writes:

>        I become crazy with this problem : I know that I must lock a record if
>a user display it in read/write mode and free the record after its
>modification. But a record which was NEVER displayed before in a day make
>the same alert box (telling that this record is already displayed by
>another user). Do you know what's wrong ?

it could just be the first record in the selection after a search
(i.e.-the default current record); a record doesn't have to be
displayed to be locked. it only has to be loaded with read/write
privileges. 

--mike

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: michaelh@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Mike Hennahane)
Subject: Re: Can't post to 4D@MIT
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:50:13 GMT

hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades) writes:

>pamiri@uci.edu writes:

>>Am I to understand that there is a internet mailing list for 4D users? if so
>>does someone have instructions on subscribing?

>    Yes, there is an internet mailing list for 4D. If you want to join
>send mail to 4d-request@mit.edu, and ask to be put on the list. If you
>want to send mail to the list, then you send to 4d@mit.edu. It's really
>quite simple.

i might also add that if you had mail sent back that was addressed to
4D@mit.edu, the address might be case sensitive. try 4d instead of 4D.

--mike
From: djensen@claven.idbsu.edu (Dave J)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: Helix let me down, other options?
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:58:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Morrison Center for the Performing Arts

In article <mike_steiner-121092121954@192.35.50.131> mike_steiner@qm.claris.com
(Mike Steiner) writes:>> 
>
>PMFJI, but why do you need to run a client on the same computer as the
>server?  You can access the data base from the server software.  I must be
>missing something here.

Double Helix has a client program to get into, and a server program to
coordinate access to the database. One could open the database with the design
application but this would take it off-line for other clients and it changes
the identification/version of the database to all clients each time it is
accessed by the design application. In short, you cannot access it except
through the client application.  

Dave
From: Allan.Balliett@p914.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Allan Balliett)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: FMPro 2.0
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 08:53:51 -0500

I've got a couple of funkies with the FMPro 2.0 I installed yesterday.

First, I repeatedly received and Error -217 when I tried to initially launch
FMPro2.0. I checked the manuals and found NO REFERENCES TO ERROR CODES or
trouble shooting. 

What is the deal with the crap baby food manuals Apple/Claris distributes? Are
there professional manual available somewhere else, secretly?

Eventually I reinstalled the entire pkg and now it opens, etc.

BUT...
The status panel, etc, is in about 7 point italic type. I can't find a place to
change the font/size of what is used for the screen. This means I probably have
to change my SYSTEM fonts, but I don't really know what I did wrong. I did trash
a bunch of TTfonts from my System a while back. Does Claris require them for
screen use?

Thanks!


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: jbehrens@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (BEHRENS,JOHN T)
Subject: problems in double helix
Originator: news@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:31:00 GMT
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Oklahoma - University Computing Services
Keywords:  helix
From: ar73+@andrew.cmu.edu (Aymerik Renard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Mac FoxBase+/IBM FoxPro Compatibility
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:44:27 GMT
Organization: Junior, Social & Decision Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I apologize in advance if there is a FAQ that answers this question, but
I'm new to this bboard, and didn't see a message on this subject in the
95 old ones or so my site keeps around.

    Essentially, I'm going to have to develop a database on FoxPro for
the IBM, but I'm going to have far easier access to Macs than IBMs
during the development period. I'd like to know how feasible it would be
to develop the database on the Mac FoxBase+ and then port it to FoxPro.
   If it's possible and any of you have tried/accomplished it, I'd like
to hear about it, too.

    If you email me I'll summarize for the board. 

Thanks,
___________________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Question on 4D to Oracle
From: 131.182.28.17 (Liem Vu)
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:32:18 +0600
Reply-To: l_vu@oaetqm.hq.nasa.gov (Liem Vu)
Organization: NASA Headquarters
Keywords: 4D, Oracle

I am currently developing systems in 4th Dimension using Apple's DAL to query 
our Ingres database on a VAX.  I have recently found out that we will be 
developing future database applications in Oracle on a box that is yet to be 
determined.

I remember that a couple of years ago I was watching an Oracle demo that had 
4D querying an Oracle database.  I believe that this was an Oracle product 
and not a set of externals provided by ACIUS (the way 4D DAL is distributed).  
It is highly doubtful that we are going to wait for SQL*Forms 4.0 to come out 
to have a nice Mac development tool for Oracle SO, my questions are: 1) is 
there still a 4D to Oracle product? and 2) Is this a better solution than 
using 4D to DAL to Oracle?

If it makes any difference, we will have unix and Windows machines on the 
network that may or may not need to query the Oracle database.

Liem T. Vu
From: pamiri@uci.edu
Subject: Re: Can't post to 4D@MIT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:42:17 GMT

In article <a-kraus-131092111720@pesa.physics.uiuc.edu> a-kraus@uiuc.edu
(Albert L. Kraus) writes:
>I'm receiving user group mail from the 4D group but I can't post anything
>to 
>4D@MIT.edu. My mail always comes back. What is the problem.
>Do I need the numeric ethernet address?
>
>Thanks!
>Have a nice day!
>

Am I to understand that there is a internet mailing list for 4D users? if so
does someone have instructions on subscribing?


_____________________________________________________________________________
Peter Amiri                                  University of California, Irvine
pamiri@uci.edu                                     Office of Academic Affairs
_____________________________________________________________________________

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: wfsavi@cs.rit.edu  (Bill Sampson)
Subject: Re: FoxBase/Mac Error Message
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.databases
Organization: American Video Institute
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:56:46 GMT

In article <92282.160546JFL4@psuvm.psu.edu>, JFL4@psuvm.psu.edu wrote:
> 
> A user of mine is using a program on a System 6.0.8 Mac that I wrote
> on a System 7 Mac.  He's getting the message "Not enough memory to open
> a screen of that size" when opening certain query screens.  I don't get
> the message on my Mac (with System 7).
> 
> Does anyone have an idea of what parameter I might change to deal with
> this problem?  Please send ideas to me directly (& to news if you want).
> 
> Thanks for your consideration.
> 
> Jeff Luck
> CES Systems Office
> Penn State University
> JFL4@PSUVM.PSU.EDU

I was getting this problem with an application I was developing.
I traced it down to the any screen commands I performed.  Apparently,
when I moved from an SE (mono) to my IIsi (8 bit color), it assumed
(even forced) every window was 8 bit color.  This requires a bit
more memory.  I called Fox Technical Support - they claimed it was
a problem with the operating system.  Gee, all my other application
can open mono window and not cry for 3-4 Megs of memory.  Try the
following commands, they may help.

  SET COLOR TO
    This sets the screen to the <default> B/W.

  SET INTENSITY OFF
    This turns off the enhanced screen attributes.


Good Luck.
  ,
Ciao,

    - Bill

...........................................
                       Willard F. Sampson . wfsavi@cs.rit.edu
               Interactive Media Designer . wfs2878@ritvax.bitnet
             The American Video Institute . wfs2878@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
        Rochester Institute of Technology
...................................
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: Mark Vigder <vigder@iit.nrc.ca>
Subject: 4th Dimension Multiusermode Problems
X-Xxdate: Wed, 7 Oct 92 15:59:55 GMT
Organization: National Research Council Canada
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 14:56:35 GMT

I'm a relatively new user of 4th Dimension, and I've run into a problem
for which I am
looking for guidance. I've developed an application in 4D which works
fine. However,
when I try to run the application in multi-user mode over the network,
the performance
is completely unacceptable. The problem is particularly noticable when a
list of
records is being displayed using an output layout. It can take up to a
few seconds to
display each record in the list. With a list of 50 records, this takes a
long time. The
problem is even worse, in that if there is a list of records being
displayed in one
window, and then I open and close a window on top of the 4D window, the
whole
update process is performed tying up the machine for a couple of minutes.
Thus
even if a user has a 4D window open but isn't using 4D, the machine can
simply
hang for a couple of minutes after the user moves some windows around.

My question is whether my problem is inherent to 4D or whether I've done
something
silly (by 4D's definition) and tuning my program will solve the problem.
If tuning my
program is the answer, any suggestions as to what I should look for?

Also, I was wondering if anyone has any detailed information on 4D
version 3 and
the new 4D Server. Does the server significantly improve performance in
multiuser 
mode?

A few other miscellaneous questions:
  -While running 4D, can I get a list of all registered users of the
system?
  -Can I have multiple 4D applications open at one time?
  -Every user on the network keeps his/her 4D structure file on their
local machine.
   This is recommended in the manual to improve performance. The user's
password
    is maintained with their local structure file. This makes
distributing new versions of
    the structure file a pain as everybody's passwords end up being
changed back to
    some default value. Any suggestions as to how to handle this problem?

Thanks for any help.

 ===========================================
|    Mark Vigder              vigder@iit.nrc.ca                          
     |
|     National Research Council Canada                                 |
|                                                                        
                             |
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From: Chris Chesher <cchesher@uts.edu.au>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: What's the best way to clean up messy data?
Date: 15 Oct 1992 08:28:08 GMT
Organization: Uni of Technology, Sydney
Distribution: world
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X-XXMessage-ID: <A70368C881028AAF@maclab433-25.hum.uts.edu.au>
X-XXDate: Thu, 15 Oct 92 02:28:24 GMT

We're exporting data from a relational database on a PC to put it into an
Omnis 7 databases on the Mac.

The problem is how to restore all the relations and keep the data in its
appropriate columnns in the kindest, gentlest way possible.

Does anyone have any suggestions about techniques, applications,
utilities, or whatever, that may make our lives a bit easier?

Chris Chesher
cchesher@uts.edu.au
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: rgaros@bio.vu.nl (Rene G.A. Ros)
Subject: Re: 4th Dimension -- Disable Button
Organization: VU Biology, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:20:20 GMT

rgaros@bio.vu.nl (Rene G.A. Ros) writes:
: matsj@ios.CMD.UU.SE (Mats Johnson) writes:
: : A related question, I guess there is no way to disable a popup menu?
: 
: Yes, you can. In the Field/Object def window you can set the format to '!'.
: You can do this also with SET FORMAT. Works fine, except when a user
: clicks on the place where is normally is shown the pop-up still pops up.
: You can use this only to make it invisible.
: 
: Also after you used SET FORMAT(Field;"!") you have to use REDRAW(Field).
: 
Sorry, but correct myself.
'Field' has to be 'Array' and the format field has not the text 'Format'
above it but 'not used'.

Rene

************************************************************
Rene G.A. Ros                         Amsterdam, Netherlands
rgaros@bio.vu.nl                    rgaros@nikhefk.nikhef.nl
************************************************************
My English is niet very well en ook nog not so snel,
but that comes later wel.
************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Distribution: world
From: Steve_T._Romley@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 09:55:52 PDT
Subject: getting relations to work in omnis 5

I've been trying to develope a billing system for my father-in-law for his
business. (I think offering was a BIG mistake.)  What I would like to do is
pull up the his client's name followed by a list of invoices.  The next step
would be to double click on an invoice and pull up the invoice.  I can get the
program to list invoices, but not to pull up the details.  I know my
description is a bit simplistic, but if any one has a general routine that
would work, please let me know.  I know that omnis 5 is the older of the
current releases, but I missed out on the update.  Soooooo, this is what I
have to work with.

Thanks for any help

Steve Romley
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: rgaros@bio.vu.nl (Rene G.A. Ros)
Subject: Re: 4th Dimension -- Disable Button
Organization: VU Biology, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:05:38 GMT

matsj@ios.CMD.UU.SE (Mats Johnson) writes:
: A related question, I guess there is no way to disable a popup menu?

Yes, you can. In the Field/Object def window you can set the format to '!'.
You can do this also with SET FORMAT. Works fine, except when a user
clicks on the place where is normally is shown the pop-up still pops up.
You can use this only to make it invisible.

Also after you used SET FORMAT(Field;"!") you have to use REDRAW(Field).

Bye, Rene

************************************************************
Rene G.A. Ros                         Amsterdam, Netherlands
rgaros@bio.vu.nl                    rgaros@nikhefk.nikhef.nl
************************************************************
My English is niet very well en ook nog not so snel,
but that comes later wel.
************************************************************