From: ray.rooney@satalink.com (Ray Rooney) 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry,rec.games.mud.tiny
Subject: Re: Philcon report (Saturday)
Date: 20 Nov 92 01:25:00 GMT
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Reply-To: ray.rooney@satalink.com (Ray Rooney) 

TO: keith@dogmatix.cs.uoregon.edu

KS>In article <1780.1024.uupcb#satalink.com> ray.rooney@satalink.com (Ray Roone
KS>rites:
KS>>>>As regards "fench": There always seem to be a few aromatic losers that
KS>>>>turn up at furry, rpg, and anime gatherings. If you can think of some
KS>>>>way to handle it, please enlighten us.
KS>>>Hose them down with chemical cleaning agent.
KS>>That's even ruder than the sign.

(I should have known SOMEONE would take this seriously...)

KS>Only to the people possessing said fench.  I've always believed that (for
KS>example) if someone's yelling comments at the movie screen at a theatre,
KS>it's better to be extremely rude to them than let them be rude to everyone.

Apples and oranges. Strange definition of rude. People yelling at a
movie screen are willfully and consciously being rude. Some poor schmuck
who believes a tv ad and buys the wrong deodorant deserves the same
treatment? Is your school's basketball team "rude" because they work up
a sweat?

Maybe we should also start in on people with poor fashion sense?

Naive is not the same as rude.

All of this grew out of a snide comment about a sign. I didn't think
anyone took it seriously, but maybe I was wrong.

In case you don't get the point, we are trying to promote the fandom
with these events. Acting like a bunch of college pranksters will really
trash that. If a cartoon skunk is taken as a putdown of this field,
what would be the result of such mean and childish behavior?

And NO, it is NOT just rude to the person involved. It is off-putting to
many attending or thinking of attending such an event. Who in their
right mind would want to have anything to do with such smartasses?

(I know, other smartasses...)

It would also tend to offend our (pro) guests.

KS>        Keith Steiger
KS>        "Even not showering through the entire con doesn't create a fench...

Then you've never been to a con in a big city hotel (or much of
anywhere else, I imagine). If you had, you would know how easy it is to
get overheated running up and down stairways because there aren't enough
elevators. Especially in the winter, when you have coats and such to
help when you walk into the (over)heated areas.

Of course, none of that was needed at Worldcon, in Florida. Goo-ey!

IMPORTANT NOTE: No, I am NOT defending people with poor hygiene. The
fact is, there were only two people present at that gathering with a
"scent" as far as I and my helper observed. Considering the number
present (which was not small) this was not too bad. Better, in fact,
than many Star Trek, Dr. Who, or comic cons I've been to over the last
two decades. Or public transit, for that matter.

KS>ObFurry: Any news on Reed Waller?

Reed is well on the road to recovery. In fact, the Reed Waller fund at
Confurence will be closed at the end of the year, to be replaced with
another fund. (More on that later.)

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