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Subject: Re: TeX for a PC
Reply-To: Smac@sound.demon.co.uk
Distribution: world
Followup-To: uk.misc
X-Mailer: cppnews $Revision: 1.20 $
Organization: Sound & Vision BBS (UK) 0932 252323
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:28:06 +0000

In article <1j3fg3INN11b@oich.chemeng.ed.ac.uk> geoff@chemeng.ed.ac.uk 
(Geoff Ballinger) writes: 
>       Where can I get hold of a version of TeX/LaTeX etc. for an IBM 
>compatible PC? Thanks, 
> > Geoff. >-- > Mr Geoff Ballinger,                                    

There is also the Aston archive, available through Janet ( uk.ac.tex ) & 
Internet ( tex.ac.uk ). I believe anonymous FTP is supported; alternatively, 
there is a mail server, TeXserver@uk.ac.tex. Send a message with just one 
line, HELP, for further info.

Above information from TeX User Group, Resource directory, 1991. 

emTeX seems to be the PC implementation most people use -- it's PD, and the 
full version supports TeX, LaTeX, amsTeX, MetaFont, BibTeX . . . 

Cheers,
Sean M.

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From: rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Camilla-gate
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:36:57 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK

In article <1993Jan22.161524.20250@visionware.co.uk>, simon@visionware.co.uk (Simon Taylor) writes:
|> [After quoting jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim Reid) re. encryption of
|>  cell-phone calls]
|> 
|> 	An interesting article in this weeks New Scientist actually makes
|> 	this point during a discussion of a new encryption system
|> 	being tested by Vodaphone.  The system does not require a
|> 	descrambler at the non-mobile end of the conversation since the
|> 	scrambling and descrambling occurs just at the mobile and the
|> 	base station.  This is fine unless you make a call to another
|> 	mobile which doesn't have the additional hardware required,
|> 	in which case the call is transmitted in clear to and from the
|> 	unequiped party.  The additional cost was around #600 for the
|> 	hardware and approx double the current call charges.

Jim misses one important point of the NS article (which I only got
round to over breakfast today) - the encryption appears to be
bidrectional on any given link.  Thus, if both ends of a two-mobile
conversation have encryption, the conversation never appears on the
air-waves in clear.

What wasn't made clear was whether you would pay 4 times the cost if
both ends were encrypted :-)

|> 	This of course only prevents radio interception you can still
|> 	intercept the call on the conventional telephone network :-(

Which would, of course, overcome the GCHQ objection...
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From: Tony Lezard <tony@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Symbol for pound sterling
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 17:54:02 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

Just come up with a new idea for the sterling symbol: "00p", as in
"I'll sell you that fish for 1000p".

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From: sm@cel.co.uk (salim mehta)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Symbol for pound sterling
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:21:09 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Crosfield Electronics Ltd.
In-reply-to: jharuni@micrognosis.co.uk's message of 19 Jan 93 10:02:04 GMT

In article <C13IJG.nw@micrognosis.co.uk> jharuni@micrognosis.co.uk (Jonathan Haruni) wrote:
> A lot of people seem to use the symbol "#" (NUMBER) in place of the crossed
> letter ell (STERLING) when refering to the British Pound Sterling.
> Has this become some sort of de-facto standard ?  I find it uncomfortable
> to read "#10" as "ten pounds".
[stuff deleted] 
> - Perhaps the NUMBER sign is an accepted alternative to the STERLING one,
>   and I don't know about it.
> 
> Can anyone enlighten me ?
> 
> If "#" is not an acceptable alternative to the real symbol, what would
> be an acceptable way of writing "10 pounds" in mail ?  Just a capital ell,
> like "L10" ?   Spell it out in full, like "10 pounds" ?

I think the reason for using hash (#) is because on most UK keyboards the
pound symbol is legended on the hash key. I doubt if any of today's computer
users know anything about ASCII, let alone 7 vs. 8 bit - only joking!.

The ISO standard code for UK currency is GBP (eg. used on airline tickets).

However I believe that the currency symbol we use is now out of date. The
flouncy L was OK when we had Lsd; now our pennies are abbr. p. The pound
should be abbr. P. This gives:

	100p = 1P

This conveniently matches the ISO descriptor.
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From: steve@cstr.ed.ac.uk (Steve Hiller)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Hoover Free Flights Deal (?)
Keywords: Vacuum
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:41:21 GMT
Organization: Centre for Speech Technology Research, Edinburgh University

Has anybody actually received their free tickets from Hoover
in exchange for buying one of their products of 100 pounds
or more?
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: iainw@bnr.ca (Iain Woolf)
Subject: Re: Mysterious Advert
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1993 14:40:32 GMT

In article <C0y7vI.Mtn@newcastle.ac.uk> S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk writes:
[stuff deleted]
>
>EMAIL: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk   OR   scott@shrug.dur.ac.uk (NeXTmail)
>SNAIL: Pyschment of Departology, University of Durham, Durham, DH1 3LE
>SUN Computers:  "Nice chips, shame about her OS"
>"If a virtual tree falls in a virtual forest, does it make a virtual sound?"
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

No, it makes virtually no sound at all.  :-)

     Iain.


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From: rap@bnr.co.uk (Richard Porter)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: French cars are a rip-off
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:00:30 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Limited
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In article <C1GJEt.Jn4@demon.co.uk> James Petts
<pettsj@visigoth.demon.co.uk> writes:

>Buy a car that user replaceable bulbs. A new bulb for my MX-5 cost UKL4.75

Most do, but that's not much good if the glass has been cracked by a stone
or broken in an accident.
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From: dhd@exnet.co.uk (Damon)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.transport
Subject: Re: Small Gods Annotations
Date: 28 Jan 93 21:00:36 GMT
Followup-To: uk.politics
Organization: ExNet Systems Ltd Public Access News, London, UK

In article <CC.93Jan28153837@arran.dcs.ed.ac.uk> cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke) writes:
>In article <6593@mccuts.uts.mcc.ac.uk> zzatsjl@uts.mcc.ac.uk (Janusz Lukasiak) writes:
>
>   Oh, how nice is to have a universal scapegoat ... Since these devilish
>   Tories happened, I got married, divorced, spent 6 weeks in hospital, some
>   stupid driver (looked like a typical Tory voter, of course) run into my
>   stationary car, one of my cats run away, I didn't get a better job &c.  
>   Now I know who to blame for all that (and everything else) !!!!
>
>Who said anything about universal scapegoats?  Don't patronise me with this
>rubbish.  I don't see who else you can blame for under-funding of the
>railways, other than the government (which provides the money) and the
>government appointees (who fail to ask for enough money from the government).

With the emphasis on *government* rather that *Tories* you might escape
the patronism; *no* government of *any* colour behaves very
altruistically.  Each looks after its own voters.  Blaming everything
on the Tories is like lashing out at the thing nearest to you.  I am
just old enough to remember having my share of problems caused by
Labour; such as more-or-less not being able to eat for 17 weeks and
nearly having our home reposessed because the close-minded union
*******s (substitute own word B^>) where my dad had just gone to work
(closed shop) wouldn't let him work (blackleg) and wouldn't let him
draw strike pay (only just joined, so **** off mate).  Or the fact that
(much earlier) my mum was ill in France (and pregnant with me) and my
mum and dad couldn't get back because the exchange controls prevented
them getting enough money out of the UK to get an earlier trip home...
And of course they couldn't pay French medical bills either.  Which
government lifted exchange controls?

So let's avoid slagging Tories or Labour in this simplistic way.  Please.

(Or use uk.politics, where followups to this are directed.  So I'll
read it for a bit.)

You may remind me of this when under the next Labour government I
blame them for everything.  B^>  B^>


Damon
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From: des@inmos.co.uk (David Shepherd)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Octothorpe Was: Symbol for pound sterling
Date: 26 Jan 93 10:01:27 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

pete@minster.york.ac.uk wrote:
: Yes, check the ASCII guide in The New Hacker's Dictionary! 
: I've seen octothorpe used for '#' in US computer manuals for quite a long time,
: certainly as far back as 80-ish...

I remember sometime ago (? 12 yearsor so ?) when I had a summer job
at Acorn that I helped a bit with the Atom Prestel system. There
was a big set of specifications from BT about what a conforming
system should do including 2 A4 sheets which showed what the
approved shapes for the * and # keys were - I can vaguely remember
that BT used some name for # that I hadn't met before - it probably
was octothorpe.

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From: ppg@oasis.icl.co.uk (Philippe Goujard)
Newsgroups: uk.jobs,uk.misc
Subject: Re: PIPEX Network Support Engineer
Date: 26 Jan 93 11:40:46 GMT
Followup-To: uk.jobs
Organization: ICL, Bracknell, Berkshire, RG12 4SN, UK

cms@home.demon.co.uk (Cliff Stanford) writes:

>In article <1993Jan22.140950.12593@unipalm.co.uk> richard@unipalm.co.uk writes:

>>PIPEX launched its Internet connection service in April 1992 and
>>is already the largest commercial IP provider in the UK, with more than
>>60 customers.

>I suppose that depends on how you define "largest".  Demon has
>around *600* customers.

>	Regards,
>		Cliff.

Is Demon not a customer of Pipex ?
Anyway I think having customers like ICL helps Pipex saying they are the
"largest". Maybe not in number of direct customers but in number of people
to whom they are providing IP. 
But it is not very difficult since the sole competitor of Pipex is Uknet...
From: sm@cel.co.uk (salim mehta)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Quality of cars & nationality (was: French cars are a rip-off)
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:35:03 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Crosfield Electronics Ltd.
In-reply-to: L.H.Wood@lut.ac.uk's message of 27 Jan 93 15:01:57 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.150157.8197@lut.ac.uk> L.H.Wood@lut.ac.uk wrote:
> Yup, definitely. I'd grumble about the build quality of Renault 19's - my
> parents have had it in and out of the garage more times than I can remember,
> with suspicious 'that repair we were going to charge you two hundred quid for
> will be free' on a number of occasions - but it would take far too long.
> 
> They've just sold that lemon and bought a Mazda 626. Comments, anyone?

I'm sure everyone on the net has a story like this; most people have at
some time been disappointed by product quality. These stories however
are not in themselves a good guide for the prospective buyer. Failure rates
can only be measured given a reasonable sample size.

Manufacturing quality has improved a lot in the last 10 to 15 years; as a
result it is less of a differentiator today. For example VW traded in the UK
almost exclusively on perceived quality. They kept their prices high, and
made no attempt to make the product "desirable" through colour choice or
features.

Other manufacturers attempting to break this sales "monopoly" were forced to
improve their own standards. Today the VW Golf is no longer the best seller;
notice how VW have suddenly discovered pretty colours and are willing to fit
sunroofs to their cars!

Most peoples idea of quality is coloured by advertising and received wisdom.
A friend of mine bought a VW, it was so unreliable that after 20 months he
swapped it for a Sierra.

His experience did nothing to deter me from buying a Golf. I reasoned that he
was just unlucky. If he had been unlucky with the Sierra I suspect I (and many
others) would have added that to my personal list of reasons not to buy a Ford!

BTW I bought a Renault 19 after my VW, the 19 was delivered with zero defects
and ran without fault for 4 years/48000 miles. It was so good that I've just
bought a Clio.

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From: snail@lsl.co.uk
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Telly Addicts
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:17:35 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Laser-Scan Ltd., Cambridge

In article <C1EtEp.3oA@fulcrum.co.uk>, rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor) writes:
> In article <nrp.727961602@reading> nrp@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk writes:
>>davidw@fulcrum.co.uk (David Wilkinson) writes:
>>
>>
>>Heard on "Today" on Radio 4 this morning...
>>
>>According to a survey in this week's Radio Times, 15% of those
>>questioned wouldn't give up watching TV in exchange for a million
>>pounds.
>>
>>Sad, isn't it?
>>
> 
> Not really. If they can't make balanced judgements, they are probably
> best left in front of the Square-Faced Nanny. Nicely drugged with
> Inspector Morse and Clio adverts.

If only these self same people had their right to vote removed as well.
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From: davidw@prl.philips.co.uk (David Walker)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: PostScript Batman Logo
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:38:33 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Dear All,
         A few years (!) ago someone posted a postscript description
of the Batman Logo. I REALLY need it. Does anybody have it and if
so please email it to me ASAP.

Thanks for your time,
davidw.

davidw@prl.philips.co.uk

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From: sm@cel.co.uk (salim mehta)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Papa! Nicole! (was Re: Ariston music for TV Advert)
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:57:46 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Crosfield Electronics Ltd.
In-reply-to: adrian@cs.hw.ac.uk's message of 19 Jan 93 13:12:24 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.131224.3485@cs.hw.ac.uk> adrian@cs.hw.ac.uk (Adrian Hurt) wrote:
[re. Renault advert] 
> That, I believe, was the first in the series.  The second one seemed to say
> that a motor-bike is better than their car, because Papa was happy to lend
> the latter to Nicole's boy-friend so that Papa could then use boy-friend's
> motor-bike.

You could ofcourse be totally obtuse and choose to read the message backwards,
ie. that the car is as much fun to drive as a motorbike as well as a good deal
more practical; because the boyfriend was happy to give up his motor-bike to
Papa.

....but then I drive a Clio : )

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From: des@inmos.co.uk (David Shepherd)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: VDU - Very Deadly Units?
Date: 26 Jan 93 10:07:01 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Michael! (bane@vtx.ma.man.ac.uk) wrote:
: Hi!
: Okay so we're well into Jan 93 already but does anybody know whether there was
: a new law passed/come into effect on 1/1/93 regarding VDUs; I was under the impression
: that all VDUs now had to be fitted with anti-radiating devices.

Not sure about anti-radiating devices. In any case the new directives 
only apply to new equipment. Employers have 4 years (I think) to bring
existing equipment up to spec (or to replace it).

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From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Camilla-gate
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:48:02 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

James Petts <pettsj@visigoth.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> jim@cs.strath.ac.uk writes:
>> It would be reasonable to assume that the resources of these organisations
>> are capable of breaking ANY encryption system available for public use.
> Unlikely. Although it has never been proven, the RSA Public Key system 
> is thought to be secure using a 1024 bit modulus for the calculation. This 
> view is reinforced when one considers that the NSA place restrictions on 
> its use and distribution within the US. If you want more detail I can 
> post a FAQ on the subject of public key cryptography. 

This is irrelevant to the purposes Jim had in mind unless you can find an
implementation of 1024-bit RSA that works fast enough to do real-time
encryption of telephone conversations and uses hardware that will fit in a
mobile phone.  I don't believe any such thing exists, or is likely to for
several years, or is likely to be affordable till well into the next century.

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From: S.S.B.Glover@bradford.ac.uk (SSB GLOVER)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Newsgroup uk.pubs ??
Date: 21 Jan 93 12:49:03 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
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Another problem these days, given the size of the GBG is that several
local camra groups have been known to not be able to fit in all the
good pubs in an area, or to put in some mediocre ones because they wish
to have as many entries as the local rivals, or simply to keep the good
pubs to themselves.

I'd vote FOR.


Steve Glover
Newsgroups: uk.misc,rec.arts.tv.uk
From: henry@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Henry Bloomfield)
Subject: Re: French cars are a rip-off
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 10:25:22 GMT

In <1k669oINNd4t@bnsgd245.bnr.co.uk> ianking@nnsgs52 (Ian King) writes:

>Leo Hendry (leo@dcs.warwick.ac.uk) wrote:
>: In article <1k1b0lINN8pd@bnsgd245.bnr.co.uk> ianking@lon40.nt.com writes:
>: >Mark Neale (mark@edscom.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>: >: In article <1993Jan25.095737.9157@jet.uk> djs@jet.uk (David J Stevenson) writes:
>: >:    Incidentally, it cost SEVENTY QUID for a new headlamp for my Pug >: >Well it has just cost me 90 pounds + vat for a new headlight for my Rover.
>: Ever heard of a breakers yard aka scrap yard?

...and a new headlight unit for my Morris Traveller? - 6 quid!

Henry "I think everyone should drive Morrises - the roads would
be safer" Bloomfield

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Newsgroups: uk.misc,rec.arts.tv.uk
From: James Petts <pettsj@visigoth.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Papa! Nicole! (was Re: Ariston music for TV Advert)
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7845062FB010855@visigoth.demon.co.uk>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 21 Jan 93 13:06:42 GMT
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:06:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.104831.8974@alex.com> Lisa Rowlands, lisa@alex.com
writes:
>Wasn't it a blue Ducati ? I know all Ducatis are presumed to be red,
>but I don't think this one was. 


Exactly: all Ferraris are 'logical red', even if the colour of the paint 
is different.

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From: rap@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ross Paterson)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Weird foreign coin
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:56:58 GMT
Reply-To: rap@doc.ic.ac.uk
Organization: Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
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From article <1993Jan28.152758.16160@mfltd.co.uk>, by nmp@mfltd.co.uk (Nic Percival (x5336)):
: 
: I got a foreign coin in a load of change exactly the same size as a pound
: coin. Same colour too.
: Its called 'One Lilangeni', and its from Swaziland. Anyone know if its
: worth anything (I suspect its worth considerably less than a pound, but
: you never know, it might be worth nothing.)
: Something else about it, is its double headed.

According to the CIA World FactBook, it's pegged at par with the South
African Rand, and was worth about 20p in January 1991.  BTW, the plural
is 'Emalangeni'.