HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tekalp@ee.rochester.edu (A. Murat Tekalp)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: futbol
Date: 23 Aug 92 16:15:13 GMT
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science


Fenerbahce - Bakirkoy maci biraz evvel sonuclandi. FB maci
sirasiyla Aykut, Tanju, Oguz ve Stiolov'un golleriyle 4-0 aldi.


1.Hafta:(8/23)
-------
Fenerbahce	4 -	Bakirkoy	0  
Besiktas	1 -	Karsiyaka	1
Genclerbirligi	0 -	Galatasaray	3
Trabzon		4 -	Sariyer		0
Bursa		4 -  	G. Antep	0
Kocaeli		7 -	Kayseri		2
Aydin		2 -	Konya		1
Altay		1 - 	Ankaragucu	0


		0  G  B  M   A   Y    P
		------------------------
Kocaeli     	1  1  -  -   7   2    3
Bursa        	1  1  -  -   4   -    3
Fenerbahce	1  1  -  -   4   -    3
Trabzon      	1  1  -  -   4   -    3
Galatasaray  	1  1  -  -   3   -    3
Aydin        	1  1  -  -   2   1    3
Altay        	1  1  -  -   1   -    3
Besiktas     	1  -  1  -   1   1    1
Karsiyaka    	1  -  1  -   1   1    1
Konya        	1  -  -  1   1   2    -
Ankaragucu   	1  -  -  1   -   1    -
Genclerbirligi	1  -  -  1   -   3    -
Bakirkoy	1  -  -  1   -   4    -
Gaziantep 	1  -  -  1   -   4    -
Sariyer		1  -  -  1   -   4    -
Kayseri		1  -  -  1   2   7    -



2.Hafta:(8/30)
-------
Kayseri 	-	Besiktas
Gaziantep	-	Fenerbahce
Konya		-	Trabzon
Galatasaray 	-	Altay
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.iranian,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.rights.human
From: ugurdag@ces.cwru.edu (Fatih Ugurdag)
Subject: Hasan Mutlu
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science, Case Western Reserve University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 09:46:51 GMT

Arkadaslar,

Bence Hasan Mutlu arkadasimizin Turkiye'ye yararindan cok zarari
dokunuyor. Cunku kendinizi ornegin soc.history okuyan bir yabancinin
yerine koyun. Adam orda Hasan Mutlu'dan 20 yazi gorunce dogal olarak
afaganlari tepesine cikiyor ve Turklere gicik kapmaya basliyor. Hasan
on yerine bir yazsa ve sadece soc.culture.turkish'e koysa yazilarini
saniyorum kendisine ve kendi sahsinda Turklere duyulan nefret
azalacak.

Eger benim gibi dusunuyorsaniz Hasan'a bir ileti gonderip yukaridaki
ricayi yineler misiniz? Cunku ben oyle yapacagim.

Eger Hasan gercekten milliyetci ise az ve oz yazip baska gruplara
girmez. Cunku oteki turlu nefret uyandiriyor ve kimse yazilarini
okumuyor.

Daha onceki ayni konulu yazimi okuyanlardan ozur dilerim: I got
carried away. Bu arada asiri milliyetcilere uyari: Yine Ingilizce laf
kullandik diye bizi vatan haini ilan etmeyin :) After all this is a
free country. Istedigimiz dilde gonusuruk garadasim :) To"be to"be...


-- 
Fatih Ugurdag
Case Western Reserve University
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.british
From: serdar@fawlty8.eng.monash.edu.au (Serdar Boztas)
Subject: Re: Meggy and Yugoslavia
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 00:50:21 GMT

dimitri@cs.hw.ac.uk (Dimitrios Theotokis) writes:

>The point here is not what America is up to but Britain. Lets not forget
>Britains interventions in Greece 1945-1954, in Cyprus post 68, Isles Malvinas
>in the 80's, the bombing of Lybia in the 80's as well and the list goes on

Dimitri,

I am wondering what you mean by post 68 intervention of Britain in Cyprus... 
To the best of my recollection, there was no external intervention by
Britain in Cyprus after 1968. If anything, Britain refused to act with
Turkey after the 1974 coup. During the 1963-74 period, they had some
soldiers under UN command, as part of UNFICYP, but that's all I can
remember, and calling that external intervention would be pretty far
fetched.

>Dimitri.

Serdar
-- 
Inhabited by absurd fears,  they only discuss  the puerilities with which 
every fool is familiar, and dare not, by turning a bold hand to the human 
heart, offer its gigantic idiosyncrasies to our views.     Sade, 'Justine'
Serdar Boztas \\ serdar@fawlty1.eng.monash.edu.au \\ +(61)3-565-5722
From: jisrawi@PHYSICS.RUTGERS.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Algeria: A meeting in Washington D.C.
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:43:48 GMT

*****************************************************************************
* BBBBBBBB             A        Y       Y       A          N       N        *
* B       B          A   A       Y     Y      A   A        N N     N        *
* B        B        A     A       Y   Y      A     A       N  N    N        *
* BBBBBBBBB        A       A       Y Y      A       A      N   N   N        *
* B        B      AAAAAAAAAAA       Y      AAAAAAAAAAA     N    N  N        *
* B         B    A           A      Y     A           A    N     N N        *
* BBBBBBBBBB    A             A     Y    A             A   N      NN        *
*                                                                           *
*                                                                           *
*                                                                           *
* Salvation Islamic Front                         Washington July 29, 1413  *
*****************************************************************************

 
   A historical meeting took place today in Washington D.C. A group of
prominent US Muslim community leaders (Imams) including, Al-Amin Adbul Latif,
Jamil Abdullah, Taif A. Abdullah, Da'ud Abdul Malik, Ali Abdulrahman, Mikael 
Huda, Walid Abdul Fattah Griggs, W.D. Mohammed, Yusuf Saleem, Larry Amin
Sharriff, Abd. Shaheed, Zaid Shakir, Ronald R. Shakir, Mikail Abdur Rahman 
and Siraj Wahhaj gathered at George Washington University to hear first hand
about the cause of the Algerian people. Mr. A. Haddam, head of the 
parliamentary delegation of the FIS, projected to them the ALgerian crisis
from the FIS standpoint. The meeting lasted about four hours. Mr. A. Haddam 
gave to the attendees an updated account of the developments in Algeria
together with a brief historical account of past events. The presentation
and subsequent debate focussed on the needs of the FIS in the United States.
After a detailed discussion, the colective body of US Imams endorsed 
the FIS cause and pledged to provide support for it.

   An ad-hoc committee was formed to draft a resolution, which will
eventually articulate consensus reached by the Imams. Amongst other things,
the Imams promised to enter into proactive actions to help raise public 
awarness with regard to the Muslim cause in ALgeria. In addition, they also
suggested they would engage in pressuring their government to take the 
appropriate stand vis-a-vis the current Algerian regime.

                              For the parliamentary delegation 
                                 in Europe and the US

                                    A. Haddam
From: brian@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Brian Paquet)
Subject: Re: Mutlu, are you blonde?
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:42:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.180533.21101@leland.Stanford.EDU> arto@leland.Stanford.EDU (Artavazd Khachikian) writes:
>In article <9208121321.A6145Dt@anadolu.michigan.com> han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu) writes:
>><1992Aug12.010904.28943@leland.Stanford.EDU>
>>arto@leland.Stanford.EDU (Artavazd Khachikian)
>>
>>>	Mutlu, how do you look? Are you blonde/brunet, what is your weight
>>>and height? Do you have a moustache? 
>>
>>A Nazi Armenian demands a slave?
>
>
>	Are you kidding? Take you as a slave?
>I would go straight to an institution if I were to do that.
>Slaves are taken for work, you know.
>
>	But still, you are not answering the question.

Maybe someone should post mutlu.gif
it's available [or was] at an FTP site.         
I oculd tell you which, if ya e-mail me.
I forget off hand
I think it's zorro.cis.temple.edu in pub/mutlu
Then you can find out how sexy Mutlu really is grunt grunt
NOT!!!
From: da26@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Deniz  Akkus)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: A Silver Medallist of the Academy of Athens Exposes Greek Barbarism-2
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:41:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Aug20.004134.14818
Reply-To: da26@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Deniz  Akkus)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <9208190802.AA29569@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU> KELLY@SUVM.BITNET writes:
>
A lot about civil disorder about a hundred years ago in my hometown of
Smyrna (Izmir).  

I would like to point out that the academician's book says nothing
about Greeks being barbaric.  It points out that about a little less
than hundred years ago Turks, who were in power, were unable to prevent
crime in the streets of Smyrna.  Sad indeed...

Regards,
Deniz Akkus
From: hhrant@ocf.berkeley.edu (Helgge Minassian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Armenian-Azerbaijan conflict _ commentary by me
Date: 18 Aug 1992 02:55:24 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tornado.berkeley.edu

   Please, people, get it straight:

     1.  Armenians were never supposed to make any advances
     in Azerbaijan.  They did so only because Azerbaijan
     was in civil war and their government was over-turned.

     2.  The advances Armenians made during the early part
     of this year were greatly exaggerated; former Azeri
     President Mutalibov admitted that the opposition staged
     losses and massacres of azeris in order to discredit
     him.

     3.  Azerbaijan, when it decides to, can occupy not only
     all of Nagorno-Karabakh, but also Armenia in less than
     two weeks, with the help of its staunch ally, Turkey.

     4.  Azerbaijan will not occupy Armenia, because it is
     not fighting Armenia.  It is fighting Azeri citizens
     with Armenian background, a clear violation of
     International Law.

     5.  Azerbaijan is oppressing its own people and has been
     sanctionned by the United States for that reason.  Since
     Azerbaijan has no experience whatsoever, it is,
     like a small child following the advice of its big brother,
     looking up at Turkey for advice (remember Midnight Express).

     6.  Azerbaijan should get its act straight, use its
     economic potential wisely (ie: production of oil), and
     hold off on oppressing its population at least until
     its economy has picked up a bit.

     7.  By the way, I read Armenia has some nuclear warheads,
     this might put a damper on turkey's plans. :)


     me.

     In a world of compromise, I don't.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.history
From: poser@vxdsyc.desy.de (Till Poser)
Subject: Re: VIZNYUK@Pacific.Mps.Ohio-State.Edu not "physics.ucla.edu"(was: Forger Viznyuk strikes in "talk.politics.soviet")
Reply-To: Poser@vxdsyc.desy.de
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:12:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.224913.27807@news2.cis.umn.edu>, 
cosar@ulysses.cs.umn.edu (Ahmet Cosar) writes:
|>In article <1992Aug13.211925.29542@physics.ucla.edu> 
|>viznyuk@physics.ucla.edu (Sergei Viznyuk) writes:

|>You are still forging your address as "physics.ucla.edu" but the finger
|>command gives your ugly nest away Viznyuk:
|>
|>>[pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu] 
|>>Login name: viznyuk   			In real life: Sergei Viznyuk

[rest of Viznyuk Finger info deleted]

A couple of people can play that game, Cosar/Coras/Mutlu:

[umn.edu]
----------------------------------------
            name: Cosar Ahmet
           phone: 612-379-9270
         address: 1100 18th Ave SE #3; Minneapolis, MN 55414
          update: 1992-05-15-00:00:00
          campus: Minneapolis
            unit: Grad School
           class: Doctoral
----------------------------------------

|>You are a shame even for the communists Viznyuk!!!

You are a hopless naif, a babe in the woods.

|>   A.Cosar          
                                                           
       Till Poser         Internet: poser@vxdsyc.desy.de
-F35- ZEUS DESY/Freiburg  Bitnet:   POSER@DESYVAX
bldg.1b-235, Notkestr.85  Hepnet:   VXDESY::POSER (13313::Poser)
   D-2000 Hamburg 52      Tel.: -49-40-8998-2004
From: irfan@APOLLO.ECE.WISC.EDU (Irfan Alan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Is KOCABAS meaningless?
Date: 21 Aug 92 23:20:54 GMT

>Have I ever said:  
> Bible which consists of Old Testament and New  
> Testament is original Injil..  

This is a tricky statement.  It can not be that way anyway.    
 
If you do not mean that the old testament(s) in the Bible(s) 
to be Torah (Tevrat) and the new testament(s) in the Bible(s)
to be Incil we are on the same ground. No problem.

>for me to say:  
>Bible which consists of Old Testament and New  
>Testament is original Injil..
>is as meaningless as to say:  
>Bible which consists of Old Testament and New  
>Testament is NOT original Injil..  

Yes, I agree they are all meaningless.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.turkish:8773 talk.politics.mideast:18498 talk.politics.soviet:6904 soc.culture.greek:7424 soc.culture.europe:7200 soc.history:7257
From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: Only 1,500 Turks Remained In Van, 'Khachikian.'
Date: 12 Aug 92 01:43:41 GMT






<1992Aug12.165211.20380@leland.Stanford.EDU>
arto@leland.Stanford.EDU (Artavazd Khachikian)

>Teach us, Great Master! Teach us, the ignorant, us, the
>forgetful, us, the unknowledgeble! Share your wisdom with us, give
>us a word of reason, shed the light of truth on our thirsty
>souls!

Such quaintly charming habits of the jungle. In March 1915, the Russian 
forces began to move toward Van. Immediately, in April 11, 1915 the 
Armenians of Van began a revolt, massacring all the Turks in the vicinity 
so as to make possible its quick and easy conquest by Russians. Little 
wonder that Czar Nicholas II sent a telegram of thanks to the Armenian 
Revolutionary Committee of Van in April 21, 1915, "thanking it for its 
services to Russia." The Armenian newspaper Gochnak, published in the 
United States, also proudly reported in May 24, 1915 that 

  "only 1,500 Turks remained in Van, the rest having been slaughtered."


Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)
From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: Re: 'Eijkhout's Dear Boy.
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:58:50 GMT





eijkhout@cupid.cs.utk.edu (Victor Eijkhout)
<l8ldi3INNi0u@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu>

|> >Pathetic, mr. Mutlu. You're losing it.
|> 
|> What effect would that have had on the Armenian genocide of the Turkish
|> people?

>What effect would *what* have had? 

'It' as in ""Pathetic, mr. Mutlu. You're losing it."" No wonder you get 
                                                ^^
most of the yelling.

>Again, your utterances refer to nothing.

Ever seen an abacus?

>Maybe your quotes from the literature also refer to a non-entity?

Let us examine them - shall we?

Source: "From Sardarapat to Sevres and Lausanne" by Avetis Aharonian. The 
Armenian Review, Vol. 16, No. 3-63, Autumn, Sep. 1963, pp. 47-57.

p. 52 (second paragraph).

"Your three chiefs, Dro, Hamazasp and Kulkhandanian are the ringleaders
 of the bands which have destroyed Tartar villages and have staged 
 massacres in Zangezour, Surmali, Etchmiadzin, and Zangibasar. This is
 intolerable. Look - and here he pointed to a file of official documents
 on the table - look at this, here in December are the reports of the last
 few months concerning ruined Tartar villages which my representative
 Wardrop has sent me. The official Tartar communique speaks of the
 destruction of 300 villages."

p. 54 (fifth paragraph).

"Yes, of course. I repeat, until this massacre of the Tartars is stopped
 and the three chiefs are not removed from your military leadership I
 hardly think we can supply you arms and ammunition."

"...it is the armed bands led by Dro, Hamazasp and Kulkhandanian who
 during the past months have raided and destroyed many Tartar villages in
 the regions of Surmali, Etchmiadzin, Zangezour, and Zangibasar. There are
 official charges of massacres."

|> Don't know what good it does. Now, what do you think? 

>I do know what good it does. It means that I spare innocent bystanders
>the tedium of this discussion. 

How primitive.

>(By the way, I've yet again edited the
>newsgroups line. Would you mind explaining why you keep adding newsgroups?
>Or is this a lie too?)

Because my article belongs in there.

|>    In a speech addressed to the Armenian Congress in Petersburg on May 24,
|>    Tchalkouchian emphasized the commitment of the Armenians to the Allied
|>    cause: [unrelated stuff deleted]

I wonder why?

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)

Xref: sparky soc.culture.turkish:9237 talk.politics.mideast:18988 talk.politics.soviet:7210 soc.culture.greek:7893 soc.culture.europe:7614 soc.history:7609
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: 'Charlap' Has Proved Himself A True Humanitarian.
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:45:53 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Aug20.044540.25905@ddsw1.mcs.com> hbm@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Hasan B. Mutlu) writes:
>>and I wonder what your real purpose is.
>
>For nearly one thousand years, the Turkish and Kurdish people 
>lived on their homeland - the last one hundred under the 
>oppressive Soviet and Armenian occupation. The persecutions
>culminated in 1914: The Armenian Government (Dashnaks and
>Hunchaks) planned and carried out a Genocide against its 
>Muslim subjects. 2.5 million Turks and Kurds were murdered
>and the remainder driven out of their homeland. After one
>thousand years, Turkish and Kurdish lands were empty of Turks
>and Kurds. The survivors found a safe heaven in Turkiye. Today, 
>Armenian government rejects the right of Turks and Kurds to 
>return to their Muslim lands occupied by Armenia. Today, Armenian 
>government covers up the genocide perpetrated by its predecessors 
>and is therefore an accessory to this crime against humanity.
>Armenian government must pay for their crime of genocide against 
>the Muslims by admitting to the crime and making reparations to 
>the Turks and Kurds.
>
>The justice is long overdue.

What does this have to do with Judaism?  Why are you posting it to
soc.culture.jewish?  You don't mention Jews or Israel in your purpose.

-- 
   |)  David Charlap           "I don't even represent myself
  /|_  dic5340@hertz.njit.edu   sometimes so NJIT is right out!.
 ((|,)
  ~|~  Hi! I am a .signature virus, copy me into your .signature file.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.turkish:9166 soc.culture.greek:7804
From: kutluk@ccl.umist.ac.uk (Kutluk Ozguven)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek
Subject: Common words in Greek and Turkish.
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:03:02 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre


I received the following list from a Greek friend. It is
the Turkish loanwords in Greek.

Kutluk


-----------------------

[..]
Due to limitations of wordperfect I have not been
able to put the right accents so wherever there should be two little
dots, something like the german umlaut , or some othersigns like^, I
have put an apostrophe. For example "gu'vez" should have something
like an umlaut on "u". Wherever I have a parenthesis next to words it
is the greek pronounciation as I was afraid that this kind of writing
might cause confusion to  me). Of course this list is not exhaustive.
[..]

1. FOOD etc.          2. FLOWERS         3a. THINGS etc.
yahni                 yasemin            yelek
yuvarlak              menekse            yaka
gu'vez                                   yapi
yalanci dolma                            baglama
baklava                                  bayrak
bamya                                    bakir
meze                                     balta
musakka                                  barbut
maya                                     baryt
yarma                                    masura
maidanoz                                 musemba
bayat                                    maden
bo'rek                                   batarya
bo'rek                                   batarya
briam                                    boru (bouri)
ibrik                                    bostan
bahar                                    marpuc (markoutsi)
pelte                                    masa
                                         mentese
                                         para
                                         gel
                                         gem
                                         bachsis
                                         bahcivan
                                         bahsisi
                                         meremet

4. MY FAVOURITE WORDS

aman
misafir
bayilmak (baildizw)
mastur
murdar
maskaralik
mahmurlu
merak
u'gurlu (yourlis=/yrousouzis)
u'gursuz (the accent goes on the g).
biktim (bouxtizw)
buyrultu (bouyourdi)
bela'li
bacanak
batirmak (batirw)
perda (perdaki)
bacak (batzaki)
budala
hu'ner
hovarda (kouvardas)
huy (houi)



3b. THINGS etc.
bos' (bosikos)
bocalamak (botzi)
bodrum
bog'az
bornoz (bournouzi)
baba
bey
bekri
perde (berde)
bol (bolikos)
boyaci (boyiatzis)
boy
pehlivan
bir-biri (bibilwto)
yavrum

----------------------------------------------------------
Xref: sparky soc.culture.turkish:9010 soc.culture.europe:7432
From: ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: Greek And Armenian Barbarism In The Ottoman Empire And 'Var*.'
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:00:01 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu) writes:

><BszCE6.MyL@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
>varnavas@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (varnavas constantine)

>>(More than 250 lines of irrelevant junk deleted.

>It felt like a death in the family?

>>The response of Hasan B. Mutlu to the above articles proves once more that
>>a)  Hasan B. Mutlu is a moron (to put it mildly) OR
>>b)  Is an Artificial Intelligence program (the emphasis on Artificial, since
>>    it definitely is not a very intelligent one.)

>More ridicule - I take it? I have no intention of telling you 'palikarya'
>what you meant; you can mean whatever you like. However, if you choose
>to use phrases on the net, you should either define them clearly and 
>unambiguously, or be prepared to accept alternate interpretations.

>Now any comment?

 You want a comment? Sure !!

 Do you speak Greek, French, and German, yes or no?
 Can't answer this simple question?

>Source: Professor Stanford J. Shaw, 'The Jews of the Ottoman Empire and the
>        Turkish Republic,' New York University Press, New York (1991).

> page 204:

> (MUTLU'S crap deleted)

>Hasan B-) MUTLU (Master Untrue Totally Lying Unit)
                  -      -      -       -     -      
 

-- 
---> Panos Tamamidis
     University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign