From: Minotaur@cup.portal.com (Frank - Swilling)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Too straight looking to be gay??? (was re: UNGAY GA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 20:43:19 PDT
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>In article <1992Aug31.110457.22001@macc.wisc.edu>, anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jes
s
> Anderson) writes:
>> I love that *even* in there, Frank.  And what is it I have
>> dropped?  Sarver == Sargon == Boob == contempt.  Contempt is
>> no less appropriate than it was, which I took to be very.
>
>Frank is sensitive to it, having been called "Frank
>Swill" at at least one point in soc.motss history.
>Tempting, huh?

I am sensitive to it, yes, but until I joined soc.motss, I hadn't
heard any of the many brainless variations of "Frank Swilling" since
high school.  Are you seriously suggesting that you, a college-educated
adult woman, are tempted to make fun of my name?  I am truly sorry to
hear this, Melinda.

It's likely that my own experiences being the butt of stupid name taunts
as a kid are what cause me to despair when I see it happening to others.
Still, I see it like this: when you have nothing else, you have your name,
your most essential bit of self.  When someone thinks so little of you as
to abuse your name, they're telling you that you're nothing, worthless.

And of course many of us faggots and dykes know exactly what that feels
like, which is why I hate to see us use the weapons of hate against each
other.

I feel that Bob Sarver is essentially wrong in the position he's taken,
and after I've posted the updated GLBO-Film List tomorrow, I hope to
have the time to tell him what I think.

>Anyway, I actually have thought very long and very hard
>about referring to Sarver as a breast.  I haven't come
>to any conclusions, though.  Contempt doesn't begin to
>describe my opinion of him;  I've never met the man, but
>his net.mien is uglier than homemade dogshit.  I hope that
>he finds being referred to as a breast infuriating, and
>I hope that he has the wherewithall to ponder *why* he
>might find being referred to as a breast infuriating.
>On the other hand, I think breasts are terrific.  I really
>am exceedingly fond of them, and it troubles me no end
>that I might be accepting Boob's misogyny by using it
>against him.  Still, I'm having too much fun to stop.
>(Hey, anybody who says that being PC is easy couldn't
>possibly have tried it.)

I somehow missed your explanation that Boob=Breast.  I naturally
thought that Boob=Fool.  I've never heard of anyone calling another
person a breast before.  It doesn't really matter which meaning you
intended, though, as either way, you were spitting on his name, and
that is what I'm against.

>I,too, was intrigued by Frank's use of "even" in reference
>to Jess.  Does Jess have a history of cheap shots?  I don't
>think so.

>Melinda Shore - Cornell Theory Center - shore@tc.cornell.edu

Jess is usually the last to quit playing with a verbal toy.  That
he did, and has resumed calling Bob Sarver by his rightful name,
even though he loathes him every bit as much as before, is surely
a sign from God that there are better games to be played.

Frank
Minotaur@cup.portal.com
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