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From: umngai06@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Lun Yuen Ngai)
Subject: Re: Internet in Hong Kong
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:36:14 GMT

In article <36021.2B4D4E85@puddle.fidonet.org> Anthony.Kwan@f487.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Anthony Kwan) writes:
>
>On <Dec 22 15:20>, Samson Luk of 6:700/1.301@fidonet wrote to Gary Ng:
>
> SL> What do you mean by cheaper than HKPCUG?!?  Your BBS charge user 
> SL> HK$80.00 per MONTH while HKPCUG charge *NOTHING* except the $2.50 
> SL> per outgoing message for users who only want the e-mail service - 
> SL> users do *NOT* need to join as HKPCUG Member to use e-mail in our 
> SL> BBS.  Users may even send e-mails for FREE via other FidoNet BBS 
> SL> in HK and HKPCUG provides routing of e-mails to/from Internet as 
> SL> a courtesy to ALL FidoNet BBS in HK as well as in Asia.
>
>Myself and other active users are using the services of the HKPCUG
>occasionally.  Thanks for your efforts and $.
>
>
>      BR, Anthony Kwan - Environment + IT Net
>Internet: anthony.kwan@f487.n700.z6.fidonet.org
>
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: chow@cssn0b.ssc.gov (Ivan Chow)
Subject: NFC/AFC Conference Championship Games
Reply-To: chow@cssn0b.ssc.gov
Organization: SSC
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:08:57 GMT

Hi guys,
    Do you know if Hong Kong TVB or ATV? will broadcast
these events live in Hong Kong?  I think the super bowl is.
But not sure about these conference title games.

Thanks,
Ivan



Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: chris@austin.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: Passport renewal
Originator: chris@ng.austin.ibm.com
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:26:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: cwlng@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Organization: What organization?


In article <lkrntgINNo9m@grit.cs.utexas.edu>, cmc@cs.utexas.edu (Chi Ming Cheung) writes:
> 
> I am trying to get my passport renewed.  Does anyone know how long will
> the procedure take?  (I have some urgent family business to tend to.)
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> --M.
You are talking about US or British passport?

For British (or HK) passport you can submit evidence that you need your
passport renewed sooner that the normal 4-6 weeks. Evidence could
be a copy of a plane ticket etc.	

I don't know about US passport.		

Chris
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: shchow@vela.acs.oakland.edu (CHOW SUK HAN EUREKA)
Subject: Re:Passport Renewal
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:12:29 GMT

You can do it in Detriot downtown as it has British Embassy in there.

Eureka


From: alanip@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Alan M Ip)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 02:01:50 GMT
Subject: Pay Range in HK
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong


Hi There,

I am just wondering as a programmer in HK, what is the basic or standard
salary in the market now.  One of my friend thinking about going back
and she wants to know the difference between US pay and HK pay range.

Thanks in Advance
-alan
From: Anthony.Kwan@f487.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Anthony Kwan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Gary Ng is JUST a friend of Gary Ng :)
Date: 8 Jan 1993 04:21:54 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


On <Dec 24 20:44>, GU of 6:700/1.300 wrote to All:

 G> BTW, HKPCUG distribute Usenet News free to other BBS in HK (think 
 G> to AT&T Mail).  However, I was told GNCT.COM request their 
 G> users NOT to re-distribute Usenet.  I don't think GNCT.COM has 
 G> the 'right' to restrict distribute of Usenet, can you 
 G> elaborate on it?  In that case I also don't think GNCT.COM 
 G> want HKPCUG become your customer because for sure that HKPCUG 
 G> WILL re-distribute Usenet to whatever who want.

I think Usenet is encouraged to be re-distributed.

BR, Anthony Kwan - Environment + IT Net

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: wskan@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Fran Kan)
Subject: Help Needed
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 16:26:45 GMT

This morning (Jan 10) i just known that my friend's brother is going to MSU -
Michigan State University.  And he said he'll come here (Oakland Univ) to
stay a night.

I'm wondering if there is anybody studying in MSU that can help him settle
down, he'll go to MSU on Jan 11 (Mon), i know this is in a rush, but......
I think he want to know about housing and some other basic stuffs.

If anybody can help him, please email me and give me your phone no. (if
you feel comfortable with it) and i'll let him to talk to you when he arrived.
I really appreciate if you can at least give him some information.  Thanks
in advance.

Fran(wskan@vela.acs.oakland.edu)
From: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au (Anthony Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Chinese fonts and text editor for Windows ?
Date: 10 Jan 93 22:32:12 GMT
Reply-To: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au

Could someone please point me to a Chinese text editor for MS
Windows ?  In particular Chinese fonts that I can include in
other Window applications.
--
Anthony Lee (Time Lord Doctor) (These are my opinions !)
email: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au	voice:+(61)-7-3651204 FAX:+(61)-7-3651999
SNAIL: Department Computer Science, The University of Queensland, 
       St Lucia, Qld 4072, Australia
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: UNIX Market in Hong Kong
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 21:25:46 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway in Parnell New Zealand.

jjan@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (jing.jan) writes:

> Does anyone out there have any idea about how the UNIX market in Hong Kong
> is like these days? For instance, are the major financial institutions in
> Hong Kong using UNIX workstations like they are in Wall Street? I am just
> trying to find out the prospects of finding a UNIX development position over
> there. Any information will be appreciated.

 
 Well AT&T are in HK and your mail is from there. Get a transfer (grin)


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mcleung@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Man C. Leung)
Subject: Re: Pay Range in HK
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 02:06:39 GMT

In article <1iikh9INNf88@agate.berkeley.edu> vchan@haas.berkeley.edu (Vincent Chan) writes:
>	Well, even if you earn 40K, it makes a difference in Idaho
>	than in the SF Bay Area !!! You can easily  afford to buy 
>        a nice house if you are NOT in some places such as the
>	Bay Area.
>	
>	So, in general, your gross income is higher in the US but
>	you have to pay more income tax. However, US has a lower
>	inflation rate nowadays. Things, especially real estate,
>	are expensive in HK.
>
>        But in HK, you might have more fun, more choices when 
>	you go shopping. (more chances to spend you money ... :) )
>	and sense of belongings, which I think is one of my factor
>	in evalutation !!
>
>	Vincent 


Let say you are a foreign student (CS grad) working in the US.
You make 35K in the Silicon Valley (where a good portion of the CS
opportunities are).  Each month you make $(35K / 12 * 0.7).  This
is about $2000.

1) Parents in HK, have to rent an apt: 600 / month
2) HAVE TO buy a car (let say a new one with a loan): 300-400 / month
3) Insurance: new car on a loan -> comprehensive... 150 / month
4) Gasoline + car maintainence: 100 / month
5) Food: varies a great deal, how about $7/day -> 200 / month
6) Others (from movies to trips): this is a lot for most people

savings/month = income - expenses = 600 - Others.  You are right, can't
afford a house with this much! (A round-trip ticket back to HK costs
more than 600).

I have no idea what the formula looks like for HK.


Man C. Leung
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo)
Subject: Re: Pay Range in HK
Organization: Oracle World HQ, Redwood Shores, California
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:27:42 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <ALAW.93Jan7165100@elaine10.Stanford.EDU> alaw@elaine10.Stanford.EDU (Alvin Law) writes:
>
>If you are a US citizen, you're required to file the Federal Income
>Tax form even if you're working overseas.  You are also required to
>pay the full 15% FICA as compared to 7.5% FICA when you're employed in
>the US.  The amount you have to pay IRS is the difference between the
>US tax amount and the HK tax amount, but since US tax is 30+% while HK
>tax is 15%, you round up paying full US tax of 30+%.  The only tax
>shelter you can get would probably be capital gain tax (unless you are
>a fool and file all capital gains in your tax return).
>
I have a friend who told me that if you don't stay in US for more
than some number of days a year, then you don't need to pay US
tax even if you are a citizen.
Can anyone verify this?
Thanks


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: c056whm@utarlg.uta.edu (ARMANDO VELASQUEZ)
Subject: gif file
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:25:00 GMT

Hi everybody !

      I get some .gif file and I want to print them on laser printer.
If you know how to do that, can you give me the name of the softwares that
I need and tell me which ftp site from where I can download those softwares.
I appreciate it very much. Thank You !


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,osu.general,cis.general
From: cheung@crabapple.cis.ohio-state.edu (SUN-WING CHEUNG)
Subject: .jpg files...
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:35:08 GMT

Hi everyone,

I have some questions about .jpg files. 
	1)What's the difference between .jpg files and .gif files? 
	2)Can I load them in Unix? Or, they are used in DOS?
	3)How can I load the image of .jpg files?
	4)CAn I convert them to .gif files?

Thanks...

Sun-wing Cheung
From: keung@olisc.gnct.com (Tang Tat Keung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Evening courses of HKUST
Keywords: HKUST
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:12:47 GMT
Organization: OLI Student Center, HK.

Is there anyone know HKUST has evening computer short courses opening for 
outsider?

If it has, please post the courses detail here or email to me. 

Thanks a lots.
keung
keung@gnct.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: atang@netcom.com (Andrew Tang)
Subject: Re: Looking for the names of all the systems around the world
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:10:42 GMT

There is this service provided by internet called netfind which can
help you find the internet address of a user. It can also give you the
names of all the hosts in a site (a university for example). Try telnet'ing
to:

 -Netfind User Lookup	telnet bruno.cs.colorado.edu or telnet 128.138.243.151
		       +telnet archie.au or telnet 139.130.4.6
		       +telnet malloco.ing.puc.cl or telnet 146.155.1.43
		       +telnet monolith.cc.ic.ac.uk or telnet 155.198.5.3
		       +telnet mudhoney.micro.umn.edu or telnet 134.84.132.7
		       +telnet netfind.oc.com or telnet 192.82.215.92
		       +telnet redmont.cis.uab.edu or telnet 138.26.64.4
		       +telnet sun.uakom.cs or telnet 192.108.131.11
   offers: Given a name and org./school, finds a user for you (login: netfind)

Hope this will help.
-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Andrew Tang (atang@netcom.com)                  Logica, North America
                                                800 Corporate Drive, Suite 600,
                                                Fort Lauderdale, FL 33334, USA.
                                                (305)938-8288
From: john@jho.com (John Ho)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Pay Range in HK
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:16:22 GMT
Organization: JHO Company, Dallas, Texas USA

vchan@haas.berkeley.edu (Vincent Chan) writes:

>	Well, even if you earn 40K, it makes a difference in Idaho
>	than in the SF Bay Area !!! You can easily  afford to buy 
>        a nice house if you are NOT in some places such as the
>	Bay Area.

The rule of thumb is that you can afford a house 3 times your annual
income.  40K pay can get youa $120K home.  You can get a news house here
in Dallas suburb but you can't even get a condo for that price in the
Bay area.  $120K can buy you a mansion if you are ready to move to 
Atoka, Oklahoma (2 hrs north of Dallas) where average house costs $55K! :)

-- 
John Ho from Dallas, Texas USA. (john@jho.com)   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: john@jho.com (John Ho)
Subject: Re: Airline Companies Addresses & Flying Schools
Organization: JHO Company, Dallas, Texas USA
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 03:39:34 GMT

Joseph.Lai@f261.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Joseph Lai) writes:


>I feel very interest in flying training. It is very difficult or even
>impossible to get a flying licence in fair cost in Hong Kong. I would like to
>know more about your school. If possible, please send me more information. My
>address is: 171 Shatin Pass Road,
>            Tsz Wan Shan,
>            Kowloon, Hong Kong.
>Best regards!
>Joseph 

You can get a private pilot license here in Texas for ~US$12,000.
That includes ground school, written exam, ~50 hours of one-on-one 
flight time with a qualified instructor and FAA license exam.
-- 
John Ho from Dallas, Texas USA. (john@jho.com)
From: leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Seeing that I like..
Date: 8 Jan 93 08:48:13 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano) writes:
>
>       Seeing that I like the Cantonese taste. Is it sorta easy, if one
>wanted to go, to Canton from Hongkong? I actually like Hongkong very
>much. Expecially, where Bruce Lee grew up! I wish that I will have a
>chance to see this beautiful land. 

  Sure! You can walk from HK to Canton, in particular GuangZhou. 
  Try it someday. :-) 8-) 

  leo.

  P.S. It seems like that you walk from soc.culture.japan to 
  soc.culture.asian.american and then to soc.culture.hongkong. 
  When are you going to walk to soc.culture.china? :-)
--
  Leo WaiChung So               Internet : leoso@cs.arizona.edu
  Department of Computer Science    UUCP : uunet!arizona!leoso
  University of Arizona           Bitnet : leoso%cs.arizona.edu@arizona.bitnet
  Tucson, AZ 85721, USA     Keep in Mind : "Look ahead, plan ahead, go ahead."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: jiang@mpr.ca (Jie C. Jiang)
Subject: Re: Pay Range in HK
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 23:24:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.094928.20479@pegasus.com> wing@pegasus.com (Wing Ng) writes:
>paid is a credit.  Canadian citizens / pr are taxed on their 
>worldwide income only if they reside in Canada (at least was
>the case few years ago).  So if they live and make money in HK,
>they don't pay Canadian tax.
>

Are you sure your source of information is reliable? Several other netters 
pointed out that Canada has similar policy as the US. I called up Revenue 
Canada and the lady I talked to was not aware of any tax exemption for 
Canadians working overseas. The only exception is Canadian citizens (PR 
excluded) working in the US, who only have to pay tax to the Canadian 
government for the first two years, due to the Free Trade Agreement.

Can anybody confirm this?

--JC

-- 
J.C.  Jiang  	      		Voice: (604) 293-5795
MPR Teltech Ltd.              	Fax:   (604) 293-6131
Burnaby, B.C., Canada         	Email: jiang@mprgate.mpr.ca
From: Charles.Dittmeier@f487.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Charles Dittmeier)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Welcome to Shanghai
Date: 8 Jan 1993 04:19:05 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


 On 12-14-92 Dean Lee wrote to Charles Dittmeier... 
 
 DL> Thanks a lot. I hope to visit you in HK some day. 
 
 I hope it is possible for you to visit HK so we can meet. 
 
 DL> BTW, Could u tell me if you are a Chinese? 
 
No, I am from the United States.  I was born there although all my 
grandparents were born in Germany. 
 
 DL> Keep in touch! 
 
Certainly will! 
 
Peace in the new year! 
Charlie 
 
... OFFLINE 1.41 * Recycle!<>Recycle!<>Recycle!<>Recycle! 

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From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: HKPA.SCENIC - New picture posting....
Date: 7 Jan 1993 20:32:51 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: sam.civil.ubc.ca

In article <akwy.726351975@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU> akwy@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Alan Kin Wah YIM) writes:
>....
>Obviously, it's a view from Happy Valley. The buildings on the coast line
>are those on Wan Chai. There're not many buildings along the coast line
>though. I can only recognise Sun Hung Kai Centre, China Resource Centre
>building (Wah Yun), and the "Eagle Centre" (Ying Kwan Centre, not sure the
>exact English name). I think it was taken between 1986-1988.
>
>Alan of HKPA.POPSTARS.

Thanks Alan.
So right now, unless there is a better description, I'd probably go with
"View from Happy Valley" and the filename "hk1988#.gif".
More inputs? Thanks.

Thomas.




Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: seven@athena.mit.edu (Karen Yau)
Subject: Weekly Story of Mr. F
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 02:27:57 GMT


Xref: sparky soc.culture.hongkong:16933 soc.culture.china:34286 soc.culture.taiwan:16882
From: jeremiah@yang.earlham.edu (Jeremiah Wilton)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: How use ChineseTalk II ?
Date: 9 Jan 93 19:39:33 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

Dear friends,

Okay, so I installed all the stuff and a few fonts for the Chinese input 
system for system 7, and everything seems to go, and Dynamic Keys starts 
up, so how do I start to do input?  it just types in Palatino.  how do I 
get it to do pin yin? How can I get actual Han4 Zi4?  (It is the 
ChineseTalk II system.)
-- 
Jeremiah Wilton | jeremiah@yang.earlham.edu | JEREMIAH@EARLHAM.bitnet |
                |       NeXTmail only: jeremiah@math.earlham.edu      |
From: csujr@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Gods)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: need data on compute prices in hlk/china
Date: 9 Jan 1993 04:38:13 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
Distribution: world
Reply-To: csujr@csv.warwick.ac.uk
NNTP-Posting-Host: yarrow.csv.warwick.ac.uk


for 286 :-  motherboard is about several hundreds
for 386 :-  motherboard is about thousand something

(prices are old-dated, it is before Oct 92)

The machine is really depends on the peripheral you are attached to, so, I think the price of motherboard will be far more better for you to collect. Besides, If you do want the price for its peripheral, you can drop me a line. Hope those data can help even it is not the most updated one.

For HK, most of the user will using 486 as the speed and performance will be much more better. But for those in office, they may use 486 as server and 286/386 as the terminal to form a LAN based.

The price for the china, sorry, I have got no idea for that. Hope the above can help you a bit. 

Gods
From: yyy@engr.LaTech.edu (Yan Y. Yu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Mahjong Game for PC (Dos)
Date: 10 Jan 1993 10:27:42 GMT
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
NNTP-Posting-Host: sleepy.latech.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

I was not able to unzip it.  Are you sure it works!!! Maybe my unzip.exe is out of date.

Yee Yu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: grid@panix.com (Allan Lee)
Subject: Re: Pay Range in HK
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 05:33:11 GMT

In <ALAW.93Jan7165100@elaine10.Stanford.EDU> alaw@elaine10.Stanford.EDU (Alvin Law) writes:

>jiang@mpr.ca (Jie C. Jiang) writes:
>>>lower, but the take home pay, unless you're a US citizen/PR, would be
>>			  	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>comparable.  Remember you are talking about a 30+% tax in US compared to
>>>a flat 15% in Hong Kong.
>>>

>If you are a US citizen, you're required to file the Federal Income
>Tax form even if you're working overseas.  You are also required to
>pay the full 15% FICA as compared to 7.5% FICA when you're employed in
>shelter you can get would probably be capital gain tax (unless you are
>a fool and file all capital gains in your tax return).

Almost correct...  if you 1) work in a foreign company in a foreign
country paying foreign taxes or 2) work outside the United States for 330
days out of 365 (about 11 months) you can exempt about 85,000 USD from
your income taxes.  Note that this affects your earned income.

You should check this, since these requirements change from year to year
as well as the amount exemptable.  Perhaps they go rid of the entire
thing this year.

There is also a special publication on this published by the IRS.  Of
which I don't remember the number (it was listed in the 1991 tax return)
The teletax number is 703, 704 and 705, which you can call the IRS for
information.  (Info of Foreign earned income exclusion).  It's all in
there, though it is not volunteered or totally clear.  It is probably
best to talk to a knowledgeable accountant beforehand.  Not all
accountants are aware of this.

From past experience (in Italy) all this information was available at the
US embassy.  I would imagine that the HK embassy has it, as well as in
other countries, so you can go first and worry later.

The bottom line is that the US government does have SOME tax benefits for
people who work outside the US, though not as generous as other
countries, some countries exempt ALL foreign earned income.

There is a movement to exempt a US citizen from taxes when he/she/it is
working abroad (as in other countries) by some US expatriate
organization, but I don't know the status of it.

Allan
-- 
========================================================================
When tyrants tremble in their fear,            |  grid@panix.com
and hear their death knell ringing,            |  alee@jyacc.com
when friends rejoice both far and near,        |  Allan Lee
From: mbsfpby@uts.mcc.ac.uk (S.L.B. Yeung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Hong Kong Calendar
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:47:17 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre, Manchester, England, M13 9PL.

June 12-14 : Dragon-Boat Day


Ben.