HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@convex.COM>
Subject: Re: Notes.
Originator: tchrist@pixel.convex.com
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:29:41 GMT
Reply-To: tchrist@convex.COM (Tom Christiansen)
Organization: Convex Computer Corporation, Colorado Springs, CO
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

From the keyboard of aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri):
:So, how many out there are afflicted with Notes?

Certainly we here at Convex are.  It's a frickin' *product*,
for Pete's sake.  Just can't get rid of it.

But more and more we use news internally.

It is rumored that the actual bugs we constantly experience in notes
were introduced not by Rob Kolstad, but by Jim Thompson when he added
the network locking code using the NFS lockdaemon.  Purportedly there
are race conditions in which the lock daemon screws up causing notes
(never particularly robust) to hurl.

Of course, we can't blame the design misfeatures on Sun's lockdaemon.

--tom

-- 
    Tom Christiansen      tchrist@convex.com      convex!tchrist


    Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.robbie.pink.tutu,comp.org.usenix
From: tchrist@convex.com (Tom Christiansen)
Subject: What this group is all about
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:36:29 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Keywords: usenix kolstad tutu fan-club
Followup-To: alt.fan.robbie.pink.tutu
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

Well, here you go: a new newsgroup!

This newsgroup exists so that Rob Kolstad's innumerable fans can
exchange useful and amusing information and anecdotes about him. 
Related discussions on the proper color matching of tutus to hula hoops,
ornamental tutued buddhas, and similar subjects would also be welcome.

There's a long story here: the short of it is that at USENIX a few years
ago, the contest was to design an amusing screen saver.  One of the 
winning entries was the Rob Kolstad screen-saver, which featured 
Rob bouncing around the screen in a pink tutu.  While Rob was mildly
unamused, the rest of the conference was in an uproar.  Elizabeth Zwicky
later contributed mock-ups of what the screen saver would look like.

The big kickoff for the Robbie Kolstad Fan Club will be at the upcoming
USENIX conference in San Diego, which Rob will be chairing.  Rumor has it
that Robbie will open the conference in full tutu and ballet slippers.
(The ballet music accompaniment will be classic, and in fact, I bet most
of you can already guess what it is.)  Our goal for this conference is to
broaden his chromatic horizons.  All of Robbie's tutus are currently pink,
and it's time for him to shed his conservative lifestyle and try some out
wilder colors.  Good candidates include lavender, chartreuse, and all the
other such similar colors.  Prints and fluorescents will also go over well.

The RBK Fan Club kickoff at San promises to be will be a lavish and gala
event, complete with paraphernalia miscellaneous, souvenirs, software,
awards, accessories, and many other interesting member benefits, as well
as a multitude of festivities and events open to the general public.  A
governing board for the Fan Club has already been formed, along with
dozens of his biggest fans as charter members.  Officers pro-tem will be
announced, and there will be plenty of working groups to join.  We even
get our own newsletter, which will be immediately recognized by the yet to
be unveiled but astonishingly flashy RBK Fan Club logo.  But a paper
newsletter just isn't enough:  in accord with Rob's nature, Rob's fans
need an electronic place to talk about him, and now we have one.

--tom
-- 
    Tom Christiansen      tchrist@convex.com      convex!tchrist


Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.robbie.pink.tutu,news.software.notes,news.software.readers
From: jthomp@seas.smu.edu (Jim Thompson)
Subject: Re: Notes.
Organization: School of Engineering and applied science; S.M.U.; Dallas, Tx
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 07:09:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.222941.4286@news.eng.convex.com> tchrist@convex.COM (Tom Christiansen) writes:
>From the keyboard of aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri):
>:So, how many out there are afflicted with Notes?
>
>Certainly we here at Convex are.  It's a frickin' *product*,
>for Pete's sake.  Just can't get rid of it.
>
>But more and more we use news internally.
>
>It is rumored that the actual bugs we constantly experience in notes
>were introduced not by Rob Kolstad, but by Jim Thompson when he added
>the network locking code using the NFS lockdaemon.  Purportedly there
>are race conditions in which the lock daemon screws up causing notes
>(never particularly robust) to hurl.

You're being unfair.  There were bugs in the code that caused corrupted
'notesfiles' before I cast my shadow on notes' door.  Yes, the lock
daemon is buggy, (just ask comp.sys.sun.*), and yes, I may have
introduced bugs when I hacked in the rpc.lockd support.  I honestly
don't know.  I don't want to have to fix it, as fixing it would
probably involve fixing lockd.

>Of course, we can't blame the design misfeatures on Sun's lockdaemon.

Huh?

To Rob's credit, he hired me even though I flamed notes during my
interview.


Newsgroups: alt.fan.robbie.pink.tutu,news.software.notes,news.software.readers
From: grunwald@tile.cs.colorado.edu (Dirk Grunwald)
Subject: Re: Notes.
Reply-To: grunwald@foobar.cs.colorado.edu
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: 5 Jan 93 18:59:03


Actually, I'm suprised no one has made a revised version of notes with
access control using Kerberos.

Rob and Ray took the the original format for notes (a list of lists)
from the PLATO educational computer system. Discussions on that system
were much more focused than on UNIX systems, partly because of the
structure imposed by the medium.

The current systems of ``threaded news readers'' (e.g, Gnus 3.14 under
Emacs, 'tin', etc) are a pale image of the original communication
structure & use a tree structure. Even in the old classic ``Networked
Nation'' they mention people had studied this and pitched it because
it leads to chaotic discussions.

Myself, I'm still waiting for the screen saver.
From: michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong) 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Tinysex & FUR-losophy
Date: 9 Jan 93 23:30:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Home Base BBS - St. Thomas, Ontario - 519-633-7253
Reply-To: michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong) 

From: michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong)

NI>Is this information given as a reason for your apparent terror of
  >tinysex?

Call me an old (passing of wind) but what the (very hot spot, no not
Iraq) is tinysex in the first place?  The term is foriegn to me.

I know smooching, kissing, nuzzling, hugging etc as general signs of
affection but hardly would classify them as sexual though it can lead to
that.  I think that today, some people are foriegn to affection all
together.  Humanity has taken self-awareness, self-indulgeness,
self-dependance, selfishness, privacy, personal rights, etc. to the
extremes.  The ME generation reigns supreme.  Even our affection has
become mechanical with books that sets out details how we can be better
lovers by following the instructions.  Affection is judge on output and
quality of pleasure rather than motive or even love.

This is maybe what makes 'furries' appealing to some people.  We watched
these creatures as funny animals as kids on TV then left that cozy world
for reality.  Unfortunely, finding it all TOO real and TOO hostile and
lonely.  So we retreated back to the one thing that was warm, and cosy
and safe ... our teddy bears of the age.  Namely 'Furries.'  Their soft
fur blocks the hard winds that this world has whipped up.  A shelter
from the insanity.

[Darn it, I knew that drinking three cinnanmon teas would do have an
affect on the old bladder system ... gotta go.]

I sure that some other have some other views on FUR-losophy (philosophy)
to share on this subject...

The one age old question I like answered is ...

       Why are cats typecast as girls and dogs typecast as boys?

                                ---mike---
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 . SLMR 2.1a . Hmmmm... is it supposed to smoke like that?
From: michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong) 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Furry flames
Date: 9 Jan 93 23:45:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Home Base BBS - St. Thomas, Ontario - 519-633-7253
Reply-To: michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong) 

From: Michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong)
To:   foxen@netcom.com (Foxen)

FO>So it's really really silly to start a flame war over it.

I ignoring the nasty stuff and trying to change topic on those that are
salvageable like starting a topic on the term 'Tinysex' which seems to
be a dumb slang for 'showing one's affection' from what I can make out
from people's responses.  I'm not trying to be 'spiritual' about it
either.

The damage is done. Sadly.  I hope the sysadmin wasn't too hard on the
guy since he came foreward.

                                ---mike---
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
From: fuzzy@netcom.com (Fuzzy Fox)
Subject: Re: GIFs on Tezuka
Organization: Foxes 'R' Us - Seven locations to serve you
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 20:49:36 GMT

co252@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Craig F. Aoki) writes:

>Can any one send me a list of the Various gifs on
>tezuka.rest.ri.cmu.edu relating to Furry stuff?

ALL of the GIF's at tezuka are furry-related.

>Also it would be most helpful if any one can tell me how much of
>storage space all the stuff would take up in a uncompressed
>format.

I'm not sure I understand.  GIF files are compressed by their very
nature.  If you uncompressed them they wouldn't be GIF files anymore.
If you just mean converting them to uncompressed pixmaps such as PPM,
well, that'd take some work to find out....

-- 
#ifdef TRUE         | Fuzzy Fox                  fuzzy@netcom.com
#define  TRUE   0   | a.k.a. David DeSimone      an207@cleveland.freenet.edu
#define  FALSE  1   |
#endif              | "911 Emergency Rescue Service - Can you hold, please?"
From: Nicolai.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Quicksilver virus on furry Muck -- solved!
X-Sender: newtout 0.06 Jan  3 1993
Date: 04 Jan 93  06:43:10

Ted Vessenes wrote:

 TV>  You do seem to be a little short on proof there, Joel.  But 
 TV>here is a true
 TV>proof.  I did it.  I admit it.  And I am sorry that I did do it.  

Seems to me, by the by, that if you'd had any honesty in you, you'd
have admitted up front that you did it.  "Admitting" it, after you've
been charged publically doesn't sound particularly forthright and open
to me; sounds more like a little petty criminal trying to protect what
little good name he thinks he might have left.

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
From: ah877@yfn.ysu.edu (Paul McNabola)
Subject: Newbie wants to know what FurryMUCK is
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 04:00:52 GMT


Although I have been a fan of furry things (?) for many years I
only recently got access to the net. I am extrferemely 
curious about what FurryMUCK is and how to get to it.
Thanks in advance

PM
From: Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Quicksilver virus on furry Muck
X-Sender: newtout 0.06 Jan  3 1993
Date: 03 Jan 93  19:25:37

On <Jan 03 09:41>, J. Furr (1:103/208) wrote to All:

 JF>Organization: Virginia Center for Lemur Fandom (subscribe to 
 JF>alt.fan.lemurs TODAY)
 JF>Message-ID: <C0AH5I.7Mr@polaris.async.vt.edu>
 JF>Newsgroups: 
 JF>rec.games.mud.tiny,news.admin.policy,rec.humor,alt.fan.furry

 JF>In article <1i4ommINNbd7@aludra.usc.edu> rjung@aludra.usc.edu 
 JF>(Robert A. Jung) writes:
>QUICK background. Yozduk@cs.utexas.edu installed a virus on FurryMUCK to
>log people's public and private actions and dialogue. Bad enough, but now
>we have random snide remarks from jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu about people's
>motivations.
>
>Comments in { } by Yozduk, comments in [ ] by jfurr@polaris, everything else
>from me:

 JF>No, sorry, wrong, *bzzt*!  Not _one_ comment in that entire log 
 JF>was made
 JF>by me.  I simply crossposted it to a wider audience.  Go back to 
 JF>high
 JF>school and bone up on your reading comprehension.  The 
 JF>virus-infecting of
 JF>FurryMUCK was a pretty shitty thing to do and I wait eagerly for 
 JF>the
 JF>cretins responsible to get their just desserts.

Er... Joel - I'm afraid he was hardly the only one to get the impression 
that you agreed with yazduk and were commenting on the subject.  The first
part of your message as appeared here at least was:

Organization: Virginia Center for Lemur Fandom (subscribe to alt.fan.lemurs
TODAY)
Newsgroups:
rec.games.mud.tiny,news.admin.policy,rec.humor,alt.religion.kibology,alt.an
gst,alt.sex,alt.mud.t-rev.stomp.stomp.stomp,alt.angst.xibo.sex,talk.bizarre
,alt.peeves,alt.exploding.kibo,alt.fan.bruce-woodcock,alt.fan.furry

In article <9301020721.AA07549@cs.utexas.edu> Yozduk@cs.utexas.edu writes:
>[ On new year's eve and new years day, FurryMUCK got hit with a virus
program.
>It copied itself from descriptions of people, so that when you looked at
>someone who was infected, you too would be infected. No doubt more posts
>will be made to this effect.  But now you get to see something totally
>different.  You will see what went on from the eyes of the people who wrote
>the virus itself. ]
> 
>[ Note: Yozduk was the name of the character who loaded the virus program
>online.  Yozduk's comments will be enclosed in {}s, and my comments will
>be enclosed in []s. ]
> 

Which sure makes it LOOK like you were the one with the []s.  Next time
something like this happens be sure to make a comment or two of your own
at the VERY beginning to make sure it is obvious who said what... 

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From: peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (Greywolf)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Life on FurryMUCK returns to normal
Date: 9 Jan 93 13:47:21 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1993Jan9.072601.7751@netcom.com>, foxen@netcom.com (Foxen) writes:
> michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong)  writes:
>>
>>I just wondering.  Is it your character in FOXEN-GW.GIF?
>>
> Yep, I play that silly Foxen fox'taur.  }=)
> 
> 	- Foxen

And I'm the *-GW.  ;)
-- 
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                  .OO.     Jordan Peacock (Jordan Greywolf)
                  O/\O     (New Address):  1610 Parker
                   --                      Cedar Falls, IA  50613
From: amelman@orion.oac.uci.edu (Wan Dabada)
Subject: Re: Tinysex & FUR-losophy
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 12 Jan 93 04:08:11 GMT

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   Better question still is "Why are cats always associated with girls' pets,
and dogs as boys' pets?"

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From: michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong) 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Life on FurryMUCK returns to normal
Date: 8 Jan 93 01:26:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Home Base BBS - St. Thomas, Ontario - 519-633-7253
Reply-To: michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong) 

From:  michael.armstrong@homebase.com

FO>In a post from foxen@netcom.com (Foxen) ...

FO>The matter has been, and is being taken care of.  Therefore, the
  >matter is closed.  It doesn't need rehashing.  So let's drop it.

Done!  I just wondering.  Is it your character in FOXEN-GW.GIF?

I'm a long lost fan of centaurs of various types though preferably
equine like Stinz.

                                ---mike---
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From: jrd@frame.com (James Drew)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: REFRACTIONS UPDATE 1.1 (was Re: Furry Magazines, Fanzines)
Date: 7 Jan 1993 13:29:29 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

R'ykandar Korra'ti (dark@microsoft.com (Dar Korra'ti)) writes:

>And while we're on the subject of REFRACTIONS... here's Update 1.1, at last.

Do you still have copies of #1 available?  How much are they?  (Or will they
be available as ConFurence 4, later this month?)

------------------------------
                             |     "What's that noise?" I asked Val.  "Sounds
Jim Drew                     | like an electric razor."
jrd@frame.com                |     "Ron's shaving," I was told.
(Furry: Randy Puritan)       |     "Shaving?  Ron?  The guy who thinks everyone
"Innocent, but not naive."   | would look better with a beard, even Madonna?"
B(2)h t c k s g+(p) rv p e   |     "Who said anything about shaving his
S8/5 g l+ y+ o+ a+ u++- j++  | *beard?*" Val said, and scratched idly at his
{opinions: mine != frame's}  | chest.
                             |		- Marc Lynx, "Awl's Fare"
From: Nicolai.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Quicksilver virus on furry Muck -- solved!
X-Sender: newtout 0.06 Jan  3 1993
Date: 04 Jan 93  06:45:13

Ted Vessenes wrote:

 TV>problem.  The real
 TV>problem is that I have already promised that I would not reveil 
 TV>the name of
 TV>the other person I worked with.

Honor among thieves?  Give me a break, little boy.  If you had
had any honesty and guts you wouldn't have pulled your little
schoolboy prank in the first place; given that the childish
prank was played, if you had any sense of integrety worth
mentioning, you would "come clean" completely.  Confession
can be good for the soul...

 TV>have left to go on.  The reason I am not saying who my partner 
 TV>was is that
 TV>I don't believe it would be morally correct to do so.

Oh, it's morally correct to protect a criminal?  Give me a break!

 TV>want to argue about it.  (Would you like to buy an argument?)  
 TV>Information
 TV>that might be of use: I am a Christian and am not of the Catholic 
 TV>sect.

Is this information given as a reason for your apparent terror of
tinysex?

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From: Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Quicksilver virus on furry Muck
X-Sender: newtout 0.06 Jan  3 1993
Date: 02 Jan 93  17:09:07

On <Jan 02 02:58>, J. Furr (1:103/208) wrote to All:

 JF>In article <9301020721.AA07549@cs.utexas.edu> 
 JF>Yozduk@cs.utexas.edu writes:
>[ On new year's eve and new years day, FurryMUCK got hit with a virus
program.
>It copied itself from descriptions of people, so that when you looked at
>someone who was infected, you too would be infected. No doubt more posts
>will be made to this effect.  But now you get to see something totally
>different.  You will see what went on from the eyes of the people who wrote
>the virus itself. ]
> 
>[ Note: Yozduk was the name of the character who loaded the virus program
>online.  Yozduk's comments will be enclosed in {}s, and my comments will
>be enclosed in []s. ]
> 

OK - let me get this straight - some character who logs on as "Yozduk" is
so put out by either the fact that FurryMUCK includes some characters who
roleplay sexual encounters or that it is utilized primarily by people who
do not seem to find it necessary to piss in the pool at every opportunity
that he(?) decides it is appropriate to screw up the program being used
by introducing a bogus patch (described as a "virus", though not 
technically one since it remained internal to the program throughout)
He, and you appear to feel that his actions are justified because you are 
able to quote a lot of exchanges in the roleplaying of sexual encounters.

Guys, that's pathetic. 

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From: michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong) 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Life on MUCK return to normal
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:38:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Home Base BBS - St. Thomas, Ontario - 519-633-7253
Reply-To: michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong) 

From: michael.armstrong@homebase.com

GR>(For the record, my first pass was botched, but IronThoughts made a
  >backup before we tried out my program, thank God, and I got it right
  >the second time. Greywolf's programs are hardly well-known for being
  >bug-free...)

Maybe we should demand that flea collars be worn at all times. :)

Actually, there was one programmer where I used to work that would mess
up the programs all the time. No one could fire him because he owned
the company.  My suggestion to the system analyst was something like
'putting the bell on the cat' idea.  Basically, it would log to his
signon when one of the programs had been editted.  Another idea is to
have a version command which posts the latest revision of the program.

Excitment today as I just received ALBEDO #7.  Kinda cute take off of
'born in the USA'.  I found it interesting.  Second and third reading
might be better if I reread through #1 to #7 straight through.  Things
are set up for disaster headed straight for Confed space.

Yes Taral's art is great.  He even stuck in both the skunk as well as
little plug for Confurence.  A very moving story. :)

                                ---mike---
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From: Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Tinysex & FUR-losophy
X-Sender: newtout 0.06 Jan  3 1993
Date: 11 Jan 93  10:31:29

On <Jan 09 15:30>, michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong)
wrote to All:

 MA>Call me an old (passing of wind) but what the (very hot spot, no 
 MA>not
 MA>Iraq) is tinysex in the first place?  The term is foriegn to me.

From what I've heard it's the simple description of sexual intercourse
between characters on a MUD or MUCK.  I think it mostly upsets those
who aren't getting enough of the real thing. 

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
From: castle@cs.dal.ca (JULIAN GUTHRIE CASTLE)
Subject: Re: Tinysex & FUR-losophy
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:14:24 GMT

In article <448.472.uupcb@homebase.com>, michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong)  writes:

|> So we retreated back to the one thing that was warm, and cosy
|> and safe ... our teddy bears
I had Beavy, I didn't have a teddy

|> The one age old question I like answered is ...
|> 
|>        Why are cats typecast as girls and dogs typecast as boys?

In Maus I and II the cats are male soldiers hunting the male and female mice
with male (and female?) dogs to sniff the mice out (not really a question,
just to point out that cats aren't always portrayed as male.

(Maus is an anthromorphic version of the life of Art Spiegelman and the horrors
his parents endured from the Nazis)

just wanted to point out that not all cats have been typecast

Yours Sincerely,
	Julian Castle

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