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From: neilex@brt.deakin.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: midifiles in music education
Date: 4 Sep 92 04:03:27 GMT
Organization: Deakin University, Melbourne

*** Posted on behalf of a friend ******

I am a music teacher employed by the Department of School Education,
Victoria, Australia.

For the past three years I have been working with music technology and
gradually incorporating it into the classroom.  I mostly use C-Lab
Notator for the Atari linked with Roland Sound modules.

Presently I am applying for an overseas travel grant from the D.S.E.
for the purpose of creating and expanding a library of midifiles for
educational use.  I would like to attend workshops/lectures on music
technology and to meet people involved with midifile use in
education overseas.  

If anyone can provide me with contacts and information in this area to
help me organise an itinerary, this would be greatly appreciated.  I
need to find out what is going on elsewhere with midifile use, and
technology in general, with a special interest in General MIDI.  The
application has to be in by September 11.

Thankyou for your time.


Raymond R. Craven
A.C.M.M., B. Mus., Dip. Ed.

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If anyone, from any country, can help point Ray in the right direction, 
please e-mail to this address and I will pass the information on.

Thanks in anticipation.

Neil Wallace

neilex@viccol.edu.au
wallacen@insted.unimelb.edu.au
From: dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Mark Mothersbaugh - What KEYBOARDS did DEVO use in their CLASSIC days?
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:55:46 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <1992Aug24.003318.22157@intacc.uucp> zerobeat@intacc.uucp (Ferenc Szabo) writes:

>You're right, I meant to say SH101.  I used to have one back in '82/'83 
>and it definitely had the exact same sound that I heard throughout
>"OH NO, IT'S DEVO" (more specifically on the 'lead' line in 'That's Good').

	Ah, I didn't realize you had recognized the little bugger.  
Unfortunately I don't have "Oh No", so I can't give it a listen myself.  Wonder
if any songs off of "Oh No" are on Greatest Hits or Greatest Misses that use
the 101?

>That album was recorded heavily with the Roland MC4 sequencer making
>the SH101 a perfect synth (among others).  Remember.......this
>is all in the summer of 1982 and an SH101 wasn't the quaint little
>toy as perceived in later years.

	Yeah, I've got one, but it doesn't seem like very much when compared
to, say, my Xpander...  ;^>  Within its range of sounds, though, it can do some
nice stuff.  There are sounds it can make that I can't quite duplicate with my
Xpander.  Plus it's a strap on.  Always nice to have one...

>Beware the yellow plastic unit

	Pardon...?

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: barsz@bmtlh168.BNR.CA (Peter Barszczewski)
Subject: WANTED: Mirage shareware and samples
Followup-To: rec.music.synth
Keywords: Mirage shareware free samples samplers
Reply-To: barsz@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ltd.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 19:48:28 GMT

I have just purchased the hottest, best sounding, most amazing sampler on the
market: a Mirage ... oh damn, sorry I had a flashback to 1980.  Anyways, I did
pick up a Mirage used at good price, and am now looking for any shareware (for
a '386 PC clone) and non-commercial sample libraries that might be out there.
I know this is an old beast, and some of you may have to go rooting through
your attic to dig up stuff.

I would prefer pointers to ftp sites first (to save long distance charges), but
if none are available, then I will go bbs'ing (hmmm, transfering sample
libraries at 2400 baud may not be such a good idea ... thank god its only
8-bit).

If anyone out there would like to trade tips/samples/ideas/noise on that old,
classic, gritty beast, then don't hesitate to drop me an e-mail.

Regards,
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From: mclemens@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mike Clemens)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: want info. on sound modules
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:43:18 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

I'm looking around at sound modules to connect up to my computer and synth.
I'd like something that is totally/mostly controlled via MIDI -- can anyone
recommend a good module?  I can't spend _too_ much, since there is such a
thing as rent... :-<  

Ideas?  Warnings?  Donations?

Post here or mail to mclemens@silver.ucs.indiana.edu

Thanks!  - Mike
From: metlay@PHYAST.PITT.EDU (metlay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: cheap acid bass drum
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:35:49 GMT

>
>>Just what is an "acid bass drum" anyway?
>
>   It is simply a sonic love-pulse matrix simultaneously capable of expanding
>and contracting while exhibiting a behaviour complex of intricately imploding
>into tubules of effervescent molecular interdependencies,-- all that within
>a single unit of time pulse structure forming logics.

Soy Sos says: "Get a sampler, and get 909 samples, and fuck with them. For
that matter, you could just go through weird old records and find a bass drum
and fuck with it."

Sounds like good advice to me. Although I have to admit that James gets points
for his groovadelic DeeeLite imitation. Bubble beats, YOWZA!

--
dr. michael metlay          \ My latest rule of thumb for buying synths is
atomic city                  \ deceptively simple: I will never buy a new
                              \ (post-MIDI) synth that doesn't have a full
metlay@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu \ graphic LCD display on board. Think about it!
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Original_To:  BITNET%"synth-l@auvm"
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 08:42:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      re: parting with old synths

>From:         Neil Weinstock <nsw@CBNEWSM.CB.ATT.COM>

>How do you part with an old synth?

>So what do folks out there do who turn over a lot of instruments all the
>time?  Do you redo old sequences or just retire them?  Do you worry about
>losing certain staple sounds?  Or just keep all your old instrumnets, period?
>(I know people like that ;-)

Just keep all my old instruments.  PERIOD!!! 8-)

Of course, I do find it harder to part with them since I've given them
individual names. 8-)

And yes, I am running out of room.  I can fit in a few more rack-mount
units, but something that demands floor space is going to be "interesting".

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University

P.S.  I thought the original subject line was a bit of a cheat.  I only
read the message because I thought Neil was selling something. 8-)
From: jrblack@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James R Black)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Mail Order Prices
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:55:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: magnus.1992Sep2.175521.17449
Organization: The Ohio State University

In article <1992Sep02.155130.5591@bmerh85.bnr.ca> shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
>Sam Ash (1-800-4-SAMASH) is pretty good. The people know their stuff,
>they have good prices and they'll usually match or beat any price.
>I have bought stuff on a number of occasions and have no complaints.

	A couple years back, a hardware sequencer I purchased from Sam Ash  
had some problems.  I called them, they were so rude - they wouldn't even
give me the company that made the sequencers phone #, let alone offer to
repair it themselves.  They basically said, 'it's yours now and it's your
problem.' of course in their New York accent.  I had purchased roughly
$3000-4000 worth of gear from them up to that point.  Since - zilch.
Purchase at your own risk.


 



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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: eirikur@ranger.enet.dec.com (Eirikur Hallgrimsson)
Subject: Re: cheap acid bass drum
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:15:18 GMT


In article <2AA7AB0C.5934@news.service.uci.edu>, dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless) writes...
>	No, no, we're talking about "acid" as in "acid house", not "acid" as in
>LSD.

Earth to Dan. "What, exactly, do you think that the word Acid in Acid House,
applies to?"

Eirikur Hallgrimsson   |    "Rhodes?  Where we're going, we don't need Rhodes!"
eh@ranger.enet.dec.com |
PATHWORKS for Macintosh|
From: murat@farallon.com (Murat N. Konar)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: New ELP
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:18:42 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.synth
Organization: Farallon Computing

In article <9208281334.AA25381@efftoo.boeing.com>,
crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM (crispen) wrote:
> 
> I was just listening to "Farewell to Arms" on the new ELP.  When they
> get to the first chorus, there's a wonderful low string (?) sound
> there.  Anybody know what that is?  Am I the only one whose reaction
> was "Damn, that's low (and sounds good)"?  Overall, there seems to have
> been a really wide range of notes on the album, from very low to
> very high.
> 
> On the same album, did anybody besides me think that the recording of
> the piano on Emerson's piano solo sounded lousy?  Like the strings
> were buzzing?


Yeah, that's kind of nice isn't it?  It's not the lowness or the actual
sound quality that I like so much, it's the crescendoing snare roll that
kind 
of "dissolves" into that bass sound (there's also an acoustic guitar strum 
in there).  It's cool because you expect the snare roll to end with a big
stab 
or something but instead it just sort of blossoms. 

I also think the sound on the piano solo piece really sucks.
______________________________________________________________________________
Murat N. Konar
Sound Software Engineer (NOT!)
Farallon Computing, Inc.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: bobhays@spss.com (Bob Hays)
Subject: Re: Casio CZ-101
Organization: SPSS, Inc.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:48:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep02.163122.6332@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
.... Stuff deleted ....
> On the CZ101 I think the only way to change voice levels in multi mode
> is to adjust the DCA levels (pain in the you know where). But I think
> each channel responds to MIDI volume (its been a while since I sold mine
> so I can't remember). Try it and if it does, you can use MIDI volume 
> to adjust the levels.

Nope.  The CZ-101 does not respond to volume or velocity.  Use the DCA
if that is what you really need (or buy four CZ-101s:-).

> I wish Casio would come out with a rack version of the CZ-1 (the CZ-1
> had velocity sensitivity and an enhanced CZ architecture), and add a
> card slot for additional DCO waveforms.

Now that would be fun - maybe you'd call it a VZ-10/M:-).

Have fun! - Bob


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From: vulcan@spartacus.Eng.Sun.COM (Jeff Whitman [SparcTech])
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Mail Order Prices
Date: 3 Sep 1992 03:37:06 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: spartacus

>
>	A couple years back, a hardware sequencer I purchased from Sam Ash  
>had some problems.  I called them, they were so rude - they wouldn't even
>give me the company that made the sequencers phone #, let alone offer to
>repair it themselves.  They basically said, 'it's yours now and it's your
>problem.' of course in their New York accent.  I had purchased roughly
>$3000-4000 worth of gear from them up to that point.  Since - zilch.
>Purchase at your own risk.

Not to start a Sam Ash flame war, however, I have also had a few
problems with them. Generally, they have been cooperative, however,
they do not tell you when an item you order is back ordered. I
waited 3 Months for my TX16W disk library and a month for my
DX7 E! upgrade board. After calling them several times I was
informed the items were backordered, after my credit card had
already been charged. This is the first time I have heard someone
haing problems with returns though.

Anyone else have any experiences to offer.

Jeff
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: rlw@elan (Robert Wald)
Subject: SY-35, SY-85
Organization: Princeton University, Dept. of Computer Science
Date:  2 Sep 92 04:42:33 GMT

  Anyone know anything about the recent SY-35 (Yamaha), or the forthcoming
SY-85? I'm particularly interested in whether the 85 has the
same waveform download capabilities as the SY-99 has (but unfortunately
the 77 does not). The only thing I know about it is that its like
a 77, but without the FM part. Price, other features, etc??? Thanks

-Rob
From: rfisel@informix.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: FINALE
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:24:06 GMT
Reply-To: rfisel@informix.com
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Aug26.161330.6596@engage.pko.dec.com>  
sherman@ecadsr.enet.dec.com (My name is...) writes:
> 
> In article <5826@transfer.stratus.com>, gene@ok.sw.stratus.com (Eugene  
Loparco) writes...
> > 
> >Just two questions:
> > 
> >From what I have heard, the academic version is the exact same program as  
the
> >regular version.  The only difference is in the packaging of the manuals.   
Is
> >this true?
> 
> My understanding is that there is no difference between "academic" programs
> of Finale and the "street" version, besides price.  HOWEVER, you may want to
> look at the differences between Finale and Music Prose (it's baby brother).
> Music Prose lists for $249 and you can get your $249 back if you upgrade to
> Finale.  It will run under DOS Windows and supports Soundblaster if you're  
into
> that.  It's interface has been simplified, but not (usually) at the expense
> of functionality.  (My understanding is that a future verision of Finale will
> also include such simplifications.)
> 

It is true, so Coda tells me, that the academic version is the same a the  
regular finale, except for price. Also, if you are a student or educator,  
DEFINITELY get Finale (for $250 educational price!) rather than MusicProse. Why  
fuss with the limited version when you can get the real thing for the same  
price? And upgrades to new versions of finale will be only about $50 (my  
completely uninformed guess) rather than hundreds. I have been told that  
musicprose is simpler to use than finale because it omits some features, but  
that finale 3.0 (and, I presume, the equivalent musicprose version) will  
include an improved interface.

--
Rick Fisel 
opinionated employee of opinionless
Informix Software
I prefer replies by email. 
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: koelman@cuby.stc.nl (Ton Koelman)
Subject: Differences between SPX90 and SPX90II
Reply-To: koelman@stc.nato.int
Organization: SHAPE Technical Centre, NL
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 10:12:03 GMT


What are the exact differences between the SPX90 and the SPX90II?

thanks.

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Ton Koelman   e-mail: koelman@stc.nato.int (NeXT Mail Welcome!)
SHAPE Technical Centre, P.O. Box 174, 2501 CD  The Hague
The Netherlands  (voice: 31-70-3142429, fax: 31-70-3142111)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: dhardma@intelhf.hf.intel.com (Dave Hardman)
Subject: Ensoniq SD-1 with An Alesis D4
Organization: Development Tools Operation, Intel Corp., Hillsboro  OR
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 20:38:33 GMT

I have an Ensoniq SD-1 and am considering purchasing an Alesis D4.  I have
some questions.

1.  Has anybody had any experience (good/bad) with using the SD-1 sequencer to
drive an external sound module such as the D4?

2.  Specifically, I want to "record" my drum parts by playing them on the pads
connected to the D4 and have the SD-1 sequencer play them back along with
other stuff that I have sequenced on my SD-1.  It seems like this should be
no problem, but all I've ever used MIDI for is to send patch changes to
an effects unit.  Can I do what I want to?

Thanks

Dave
dhardman@pcocd2.intel.com

P.S. Please reply to the above email address - it is the best bet to reach me.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: broe@dfv.rwth-aachen.de (Frank Breier)
Subject: What's about a D70-Mailing-List ?
Organization: Communication Networks
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 06:18:15 GMT

Hi,

I wonder if there is a mailing list of D70 user, so mail me if interested !

  Frank
  
  
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From: bbrown@infonode.ingr.com (Bailey Brown)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcons $799!!!!!
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 03:28:06 GMT

kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson) writes:

>In article <1992Sep1.143739.15864@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov> thigpen@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Keith Thigpen) writes:
>>
>>To be quite honest, this is lousy video. The lowest resolution PC that I
>>use is 800x600x256, and normally I use 1024x768x256. Your specs are 
>>underwhelming at best.

>To be quite honest, little IBM compatible software uses anything above 
>640x480x256 except for GUI drivers and some graphics software.

I use MS-Windows and dos.  So either I'm running dos full screen in
text mode or I'm running Windows in 1024x768x16 (16 is faster than
256 on my accelerator board) on my 16" Monitor.  Windows, or any other 
GUI is really lame at 640x480x256.  That's why I'm not impressed by most 
Macs and PS/2s because of the low-res, small-monitor look.
BTW, when I drop down to 640x480 with Windows, it's only to run my 
$185 graphics accelerator in 24bit color mode.

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Bailey Brown                               "Above all else, confusion reigns."
Intergraph Corporation                                  
bbrown@casca.b11.ingr.com                              Procol Harum
From: jps@hatch.socal.com (J. P. Scott)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: triggering from BD pedal
Date: 3 Sep 92 04:50:58 GMT
Organization: Hatch Usenet and E-mail.  Playa del Rey, CA

somebody recently asked about triggering from a bass drum pedal?

it wasn't clear whether you were looking for a homebrew design or
not. if not, DRUM WORKSHOP has a very nice pedal triggering device
called the DW-EP1.  available at finer drum stores near you!

james
From: bdb@becker.GTS.ORG (Bruce Becker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Extra information in CDs
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:10:33 GMT
Organization: G. T. S., Toronto, Ontario

In article <BtJvwE.Cuq@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ja51359@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (axelrod) writes:
|ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK (The Brown Bottle) writes:
|>My memory is a little hazy on this but I think that in Japan you can get
|>Karaoke CDs that can be played in normal CD players, but when used with a
|>special player will display the lyrics as graphics on a screen. I have seen
|>one of these in action, but was not able to ascertain if the CD was identical
|>in spec to normal audio CDs, or just downwards compatible. I have also seen
|>(in a bus no less) Karaoke audio CDs that would display teletext-like pictures
|>that changed only occasionally. I wasn't able to see the size of these CDs
|>though (whether standard CD or some other format).
|
|What you guys are talking about is CD+G (CD+Graphics.)  It was a big flop in
|the U.S. and I think that only like one player was made that supported it,
|and there were only like two albums supporting it, one of them being Talking
|Heads' "Naked" album.  It was a really stupid idea.


	I think that Commodore's CDTV unit will play the
	CD+G format...


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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: TOBIAS@bonnie.physik.uni-stuttgart.de ()
Subject:  query: midi system excl. checksum roland SC55
Organization: Physics Dept, University of Stuttgart, FRG
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 09:58:43 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

Hi out there,

I want to have a little bit of conversation with my sc-55.
The problem is: the manual only tells me that i have to use
a checksum with system excl. messages but not how to generate it.

SO:   1. what checksum is used ?
      2. is this ROLAND specific or does it belong to MIDI Specif. ?



Bye and thanks in advance. Tobias.


Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: Myles Wakeham <mylesw@amgen.com>
Subject: Re: Sample news letter
Organization: Amgen Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.0
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:00:15 GMT

>I've only recently begun to read this newsgroup and recently saw a
posting
>about an international news letter regarding sampling and the such. Where
>and to whom do I send my address ? Do I leave it here, or do I email some
>specific person ? Any help appreciated.

The journal is called "LOOP - The Journal of the International Samplers
Coop"
and its available from:

MUSO Information Services
20929-47 Ventura Blvd, Suite 293
Woodland Hills  CA  91364
Tel (818) 580-7792
Fax (818) 883-0349

Myles Wakeham.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Formant analog synthesizer - Elektor
From: Rick Jansen <SSCPRICK@HASARA11.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 31 Aug 1992 09:20:38 CET
Organization: SARA - Stichting Academisch Rekencentrum Amsterdam

In article <memo.601279@cix.compulink.co.uk>, thart@cix.compulink.co.uk (Toby
Hart Dyke) says:
>I played with a Formant for about half an hour at an electronics fair in
>London in around 1980. It had a wonderful "solid" fat sound to it. I had
>planned to build one, but never had the time and money at the same time.
>maybe I'll get round to it some day!). Are you planning on building one?
>I seem to recall that some of the parts were difficult to obtain, at
>least here in the UK.
 
Yes, I'm planning to build one, provided I can get the
Fairchild uA726C still. Its used as a linear-exponential
converter in the VCO's. Special about it is that it
contains an oven to keep the temperature of the thing
constant, to prevent from drift. The rest of the components
should still be readily available.
 
Anyone who knows about a leftover stock of 726's? Please?
 
>Elektor republished the set of articles in book form (which I still have
 
I also have that book, and another one also by Elektor, with
Formant Extension modules (Parametric Equalizer, Ring Modulator,
Digital Noise Generator, Digital Reverb, Phase Shifter,
Krimisizer, VC-LFO's, ADSR controller, Mixer, LF-VCO's, Mixer).
 
-Rick.
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