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From: K.K.Soo@bradford.ac.uk (KK SOO)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Opinions on singers
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:46:46 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 91862372@muser

gho@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Grace Ho) writes:

>Hi, being an ABC and recently just started to listen
>to chinese music, so far, i've come upon Andy Lau,
>Alan Tam, Leslie Cheung, Anita Mui, Sally Yeh
>and a few others.  

You'd already got it! They are all good and popular HK singers :)
BTW if you haven't got those CD/albums from Jackie Cheung, Ah Lam, 
or Lowel Lo, then buy them all as well,.. yes, one more, the big brother
Sam Hui, he'd just got retired, don't miss his last CD, remember !!

>But, according to a magazine that i recently read,
>they say that there's another big singer out there...more 
>popular than Andy Lau, Lai Ming and Jackie Cheung : a guy
>named Aaron Kwok.  What do people think about his music?

Is that a Taiwan magazine ?
Then I'm afraid that guy is Kwok Fu Shing (Correct me if wrong).
He had been one of the TVB artists, then he went to Taiwan and had been
on Taiwan's TV for a short period. He'd got a lot of young girl fans
there and then he started singing. 

I heard he got a cool character, so I think he's a blue singer. But up
to my information he only sang mandarin songs, maybe he changes his
style now... not very sure. But anyway, I think he is not very popular
in HK.

>Is it worth listening to?  I'd really appreciate your comments

Just trial and error, but don't forget to make a summary and post here :)

>on him....and also....is Lai Ming really THAT bad?

Actually Lai Ming is a good artist, you can prove it by watching one
or two of his TV videos. (don't try to compare him with Andy Lau !)
His songs? Not too bad if you have a good HiFi :) :)

"Oh yeh, Oh yeh, Oh yeh"

Fred
-- 
k.k.soo@bradford.ac.uk
Computer Science, University of Bradford, UK.
From: kenchan@crowe.seas.ucla.edu (Kenneth Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Lai Ming and Andy Lau in L.A.
Date: 16 Apr 92 11:51:39 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles


	It is amazing that Lai Ming's visiting U.S. can cause that many 
arguement. I work as a DJ in a L.A. Chinese radio station, and I had a chance
to go to Andy Lau's conect and had an interview with Lai Ming. 
	About Andy Lau's concert, there are only 60-70% of the seats are 
occupied. I went to a journalist meeting held by Andy Lau's concert committee.
As I saw, Andy was very tired and he did not seem as bright as when he was is
Hong Kong. As our DJ asked him questions, his answers were quite common, which
made me a little bit disappointed.
	About Leon Lai, I did not go to his concert, but I heard that he gained
a better success than Andy's. I talked to him six hours before the concert and
he seemed very excited. He talked a lot, and to me that was a very good respond
in an interview.
	No one can deny that Leon does not say well. But that does not prevent
him from being an interesting guy. As I met him, I need to admit that he is
handsome in certain angle and he is really tall (around six feet). To me, he 
has no different from other young men at the age of 26.
	If in term of skill, neither Leon nor Andy nor Arron can be called
PRO. But they have their style and that is exactly what most or some of the fans
like. I think if they can catch the trend of the fans, we still need to say
that they are Stars.
	BTW, Arron Kowk is the most popular Male Singer in Hong Kong. Leon Lai
is the second and comes with Grasshopper the third. Andy Lau is the forth. The
ranking is greatly affected by the publication of new album. Leon is going to
have his new album on May and his personal concert in Hong Kong on October.

Ah Sze.
From: shui@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Enjoy Life in God)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: just testing from shui
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:19:28 GMT
Reply-To: shui@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Enjoy Life in God)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: shui@doc.cc.utexas.edu

Hi,

      This is a test from Austin, TX.


Bye.
From: wing@pegasus.com (Wing Ng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Tibet
Date: 17 Apr 92 02:42:34 GMT

The basic history of Tibet-China relations is quite clear, in
spite of attempts at distortion / propaganda by both sides.

Tibet was invaded by the Yuan Mongols and was put into a subservient
position relative to the emperor / central govt. of China since then.
Before 1950, it was locally ruled by a succession of Dalai Lamas,
with minimal interference from the central govt. of China.  PRC
asserted the strong form of sovereignty in Tibet since 1950.

The Tibetan language is related to the Chinese, and it shares certain
ancient cultural attributes with the Chinese, the 4 animals for the
4 cardinal positions, and the use of the 60-year cycle, etc., which
pre-date even Confucius.  However, culturally it evolved quite
separately for 1,500 years, and is less similar to Chinese than
the cultures of Japan, Korea and Vietnam.

Tibet is probably the largest piece of real estate inhabited by
a "national minority" in the whole world.  Similar entities were
Ukraine in the old USSR, and Quebec in present-day Canada.  Ukraine
became independent a few months ago, and Quebec is scheduled for
yet another independence referendum soon.

Tibet is different from even Inner Mongolia and Xinjiang.  Inner
Mongolia has a Han majority now, and Xinjiang was populated by
Hans 2,500 years ago.  The native peoples then have long disappeared,
and the Turkic people there (Wuer Kaixi's kinfolk) arrived in
Xinjiang (from Mongolia and Siberia) after the Hans.

I would like to have a free and democratic Tibet stay in a future
Democratic China, but the <blood debts> of the last 40 years incurred
by the CCP regime may make that impossible even when China becomes
democratic.

I am for human rights for Tibetans as well as for Chinese, and
furthermore, I would not want to see more blood debts owed by
the Chinese people even though it was the CCP that spilled the
blood.

| Wing should know where I am coming from.  I shared with him an article
last

Have to respond when my name is mentioned, even though I show up
in the office at 2 p.m., Apr. 16 being our second X'mas.

| >this whole weekend. I may not know enough Chinese history to be very
| >authoritative on this, being a unilingual Cantonese born in HK and all.
|
| Me too.  Humility taken and expressed.
|
| Charles

Nothing wrong with being a <unilingual Cantonese>.  I listened to a
Sun Yat-sen speech in Mandarin last month, and I tell you, he firmly
belongs to that category.

Wing
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung)
Subject: Re: "Lisa Wong(Weng)" Re: Lai Ming
Organization: Tandem Computers
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:34:47 GMT

K.K.Soo@bradford.ac.uk (KK SOO) writes:
|> kokwok@ee.umanitoba.ca (julian) writes:
|> : In article <1992Apr13.042256.11442@bradford.ac.uk>, K.K.Soo@bradford.ac.uk (KK SOO) writes:
|> : > 1. Divorce
|> : > 2. Ho B had no patient with her
|> : > 3. Fall in love with Law Ka Ying
|> : > 4. Koo Ka Fai was retired
|> : 
|> : A comment on pt 2,3  : NINE MALE FEMALE !
|> : 
|> : Or you may call it doggy love, because they are not puppies anymore.
|> 
|> Then what are you comments on these :
|> 
|> ...

Hey, guys, please stop here. Let's focus on performance/skills/techniques
and don't degenerate ourselves into talks of this nature. 


Steven
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: fcc1@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Fat-Chi Cheng)
Subject: Re: HK "roots"??  
Organization: University of Rochester Computing Center
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 03:38:05 GMT

If you ask the old generation of HK residents (i.e. parents and
grandparents of most netters) where are their roots, 
I believe most of them will answer China.

They are linked to China because most of them were born and growth
up there. Their feeling toward China are kind of similar to the
feeling of the HK-born generation toward Hong Kong. 
(This analogy might not be exactly same since Hong Kong is 
still in good shape, unlike China after 1949.) 

Besides, more than a million current HK residents are recent
immigrants from China after 1976. Their roots are also in
China. 

F.C. Cheng

Xref: sparky soc.culture.hongkong:5424 soc.culture.taiwan:7182 soc.culture.china:12413
From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: UN (SF) Rally GIF Pictures
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:36:38 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada

Hello all. I have waited about 2 weeks for replies on whether to continue
the posting of the UN Rally GIFs or not. And thus far, I have received
1 YES vote and 2 NO vote. So if I don't get anymore positive replies by
the end of this month. I'm calling it quits on these files. For those
who've forgotten what these pictures are all about....

This set of un*.gif is a collection of the Anti-Li Peng
rally in the United Nations in New York City, USA on 01/31/92.
Estimated 2000 people joined in the rally.
 
un[a][a-z].gif are all pictures taken in the rally.
 
unnyt[ab].gif are advertisement by many democracy society on
the National edition of New York Times on 01/31/92.
 
Pictures are provided by the Alliance of Hong Kong Chinese
in the United States.
 
Reference# UN-9211316-92115392-16204511616692

Thomas.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: wongkc@bullet.ecf.toronto.edu (WONG  KESON KWOK PUI)
Subject: Re: "Lisa Wong(Weng)" Re: Lai Ming
Summary: Another one of her songs (if you can call it that!)
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 05:30:27 GMT

>This "King Wah Chun Mong" triggers my old memory broad, it still works.
>
>> quite a bit.
>
>The first terrible song by Lisa is "Kam See Dre" (Gold Silk Bird),
>right? in around 1975?
>
>F.C.

 How about that song about "Hot coffee".  Each time my friend sings it my
spine doesn't just quiver, I think it snaps! 8-)

ttfn
				A. Mak

A209MAKA@CDF.TORONTO.EDU


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mok@fortsc.enet.dec.com (Charles Mok)
Subject: Re: In defense of LISA WONG..........
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 14 APR 92 16:30:26 PST


In article <1992Apr14.055418.27655@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, llm39562@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lisa Lai-ha Mak) writes...
>	After reading some articles about Lisa Wong, I found some of you are
>being kind of mean and harsh to her and really would like to say something
>to defend her.

Hey, forget about her looks and her talents (actually the lack of such).  

Just remember that she is a member of the National People's Congress of the
People's Republic of China.

Enuf said.

Charles

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mkwan@esk (Michael  Kwan)
Subject: Re: cow {to steve}
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 01:38:49 GMT

Hi steve, I love to have one, my address mkwan@pieman.compserv.utas.edu.au

						Michael KWAN
From: HHECLWH@HKUCC.HKU.HK
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: foreign language software
Date: 12 Apr 92 06:12:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: hkucc.01GIRGV5X7B4000FKU

Hello netter,

I am of strong interest to find some softwares gearing for improving English
writing and introducing foreign languages such as French and Spanish. Can anyone
suggest any to me? Please email to me in private for I am unable to gain access
to schk. Thank you in advance.

Joseph LAU
12-4-1992
From: chao@EUCLID.UOREGON.EDU (Kung M. Chao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Rain in HK
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:58:14 GMT

Tonite's FA Cup, E Borel Vs Eastern was 'waisted cut' by the referee with
20 mins left in the game. The score was at 1-1. I do not understand why
they played tonite. It has been raining heavily in the past 
4-5 days. There're
also thunderstorms. The game should not even have had started at all! In the
second half, not only it rained heavily, but also with very frequent thunders
and lightings...
We have not seen much sunshine this year. Probably less than 20 hours in the past 3 months, Rainfall of the first 3 months was 400% of normal...

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung)
Subject: Re: Lai Ming
Organization: Tandem Computers
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:01:57 GMT

stevew@helios.unl.edu (Steve Wu) writes:
|>   Yeah, guys, come Lai Ming is not as bad as the way described. It is
|> WORSE than that. If singers were devided into different catagories,
|> one catagory would contain two "singer"--"lisa Wong" adn "Leon Lai." I
|> guess no one could tell which one of them is batter then the other.

Lisa's first song was terrible - that is the first time I realized
there is a difference betweem music you don't like and somebody
simply screws up so bad on what they think is music. But I do
think that Lisa's latter songs (like King Wah Chun Mong) did improve 
quite a bit. (I certainly like to see the song sung by others.) I
guess the first impression is always important, and the damage caused
by the first bad impression is almost irreparable. Given the fact
that most people would improve after more practices, it is just hard
to understand why they want to rush to risk their reputation to be
ruined by the first bad impression.

|>   Some people they may not have good voice, but they are good
|> musicians. They know composing, arranging, and intrumental
|> performance. I would say these guys are good. They are not a
|> good-looking-shallow-jerk. They are creative and have more insight.

The first person come to my mind that fits this description is Lowell.
He had quite a number of good songs, and his musical taste/background
is pretty good. But his voice is just unbearable. I hope somebody
would advise him to concentrate on composing and let other people
to sing it. After all, we are living in a highly specialized
world.

Steven
------
... This all sounds complicated, but it mostly does exactly
what you expect. It's just hard for us to explain what you
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From: plaw@girtab.usc.edu (Patrick Law)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: I N S T A N T N O O D L E S
Date: 8 Apr 1992 00:15:18 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu


Hi all instant noodles lover,

   I know it is a bit like a joy killer when I talk about the bad
side of instant noodles in this forum. Personally, I loved instant
noodle a lot. Everytime I ate one, I drank all the soup (MSG plus
coloring) as well.

   However, my close friend's mother got a stomach cancer about
two years ago. Though the cause is not directly related to instant
noodle, I started thinking about eating healthy.

   Come on guys, look at the ingredients of the instant noodle on
the package everytime when you are waiting the water to boil. I
think you have to have a chemistry degree to understand all the
terms there. And all these chemicals go down to your stomach!!

   Have a good day!

Patrick
From: K.K.Soo@bradford.ac.uk (KK SOO)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: In defense of LISA WONG..........
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:34:48 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 91862372@muser

llm39562@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lisa Lai-ha Mak) writes:
: 
: 	Everyone gets old some day.  Don't forget Lisa Wong possesses some
: skills that most idles don't have, such as managing a big big show in a
                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I sort of laugh :) Hope that's just kidding :)
Anyway, I believe she's a good artist, as my aunty is not a liar, I think :)

: elegant and appropriate manner.  If we pay more attention to those subtle
: skills, we would appreciate her more.  Lisa Wong is not over yet.

Good idea, though I prefer Lee Mei Fung :)

Fred
-- 
k.k.soo@bradford.ac.uk
Computer Science, University of Bradford, UK.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: wongkc@bullet.ecf.toronto.edu (WONG  KESON KWOK PUI)
Subject: Re: Opinions on singers
Summary: Well there are many chances....
Keywords: Well, singing (What else?)
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 05:24:25 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.204421.11344@nic.umass.edu> s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Peter Hawkins) writes:
>>	Also singing is an art that requires not only training, but also
>>	good voice.  The voice of Lai Ming requires a lot more effort
>>	to sing "well".  However I can see HE IS TRYING HARD.  So GIVE
>>	HIM A BREAK AND STOP CRITICIZING HIM.  GIVE HIM A CHANCE
>
>geez, why can't someone give me a chance to sing??? :)
				   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Well, there are many chances.  Each year there are many Kareoke contests.
8-)
I know some people who have tried competing in those.  If you really want to
have a chance, 8-) try it.  You might even be better than many who try out.
(No flame intended here, especially if you think this is pointed to you.  I
don't know you so I am not pointing a finger at anyone in particular.  Sorry
in Advance)  As long as you can sing without being off key, you will probable
be in the top ten.  Many of those people are terrible.  

   One night I was watching chinese news on TV.  They were showing clips of
one such contest.  The guy was singing Leon's song "Sorry, I love you"
(or is that "Sorry!  I love you."), I must say that that guy was worse than 
Leon himself.  He wasn't even in the right key to begin with.  It was worse
than killing a CAT. 8-) (or should it be like this:  8-O  [shocked expression])

>but seriously, many of the HK singers simply don't have much talents.
							      ^^^^^^^
We have entered the era of IDOLS and lost the strong singers like Sam Hui.
I feel sad that he decided to leave the Entertainment world.  Is he now in
Hawaii?  I was wanting to go there and try to see if I can see him on the 
beach or something.

>it's not worth the time listening to them.

ttfn
				A. Mak

A209MAKA@CDF.TORONTO.EDU


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: pkk36438@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Polygon)
Subject: Re: HK "roots"?? << was: "I love Hong Kong, too! But why? >>
Keywords: Culture and People
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:41:09 GMT

wongi@netcom.com (Isaac Wong) writes:


>I know southerners call notherners "lau-zone", but what does it really mean?

>just curious...


	"Lau-zone" is Shan-hai language.  It means "old-buddy".  People from
Shan Hai don't say "WEI, can you please tell where XXX is", but "Old buddy,
can you please...".  After some time, Cantonese called any people from north
of Canton province "lau-zone" no matter he is from Shan Hai or not.

Polygon
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mkwan@esk (Michael  Kwan)
Subject: Happy Easter ?
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 11:21:47 GMT

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Dear Friends,

	Beside the Easter eggs, buns, cakes, bunnies and parties, try to spend a

bit of time to think about what is real meaning of Easter, and what are we given

by Jesus Christ.

	Happy Easter Everybody !

					Michael KWAN
					University of Tasmania, Launceston.
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From: Kin.Fung@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Kin Fung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: A Survey of HK's tertiary schools first year students
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:31:33 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

The following was reported by Mingpao, hk edition, 17dec91.

A survey of Hongkong's tertiary school students sexual activity indicated
2.4% of them have pre-marital sex.

The survey was jointly conducted by the AIDS education and promotion
commission and the Hongkong tertiary school health group.  The target
of survey was the current first year students of Hongkong's six tertiary
schools.  5705 questionaires were distributed; 4688 were returned.

The survey indicated that the majority of the surveyed had their first
sexual experience between the age of 16 and 22.  The spokeswomen of the
tertiary schools health group, Ms Che-ching Tsang, considered today's
tertiary school students having better sex knowledge, but because they are
relatively more industrious and target-driven, the statistics reflected
their pre-marital sexual behaviour to be still relatively conservative.

The survey also indicated that over half of the polled only have sex
occassionally, and one quarter have sex more than once a week.

Also, the survey discovered that 63.2% of the polled have more than one
sex partner.  As of contraception, 58.6% use condome, 14.8% relied on
safety period, and 18% do not use any contraceptives.

The six tertiary schools surveyed were: HKU, CU, Polytech, Lingnan,
Baptist College, and City Polytech.

        Tertiary School Students Sexual Behaviour Survey

                Sexual Frequency
        Frequency                Percentage

        once a week or more      25.4%
        less than once a week    22.8%
        occassionally            51.8%

        Age of First Sexual Experience
        Age        Percentage

        10-15      13.2%
        16-22      70.2%
        over 21    16.7%

        Note: number of successfully polled = 4688.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: yung@r-node.gts.org (Amos Yung)
Subject: Re: Why does HK has a problem to independent?
Organization: R-Node Public Access UNIX System (416-636-2026) - 24 hrs
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1992 22:06:38 GMT

In article <19776@castle.ed.ac.uk> egeo17@castle.ed.ac.uk (M L Broadgate) writes:
>In article <9204021857.AA11584@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu> vcsc335@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU (Johnny Chow) writes:
>>>In article <1992Apr2.094128.1@galluk> you write:
>
>>>My main question is why
>>>Hong Kong is not allowed to be independent.
>
>>GwongTong  (?)  (Man-Big?) told me that it is just because of the
>>pride (face) they want. China used to lose faces and  lands  when
>>being  attacked  by the 8 countries (remember material learn from
>>your history class?). Now when China has a strong basis of  mili-
>>tary   power,  no  doubt  that she want to "show off". (Everybody
>

Nonsense. After WWII, all unfair treaties (like the Nanking treaty) were
decalred invalid by the UN. All nations have the right to ask for this
kind of treaties to be revolved no matter they are a military power or not.

Besides, during the turmoil period in the mid-sixities, Britain did talk
with the Chinese government about handing HK back . Chinese government
refuse to do so since she was in deep trouble at that time (Cultural
Revolution) and HK was not exactly a economic good mine back then.



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From: ko@teecs.UUCP (Sam Ko)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:58:42 GMT
Subject: Re: When is Qing1 Ming2?
Organization: Litton Systems, Toronto ONT
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong

As long as I know
that is 5th of April every year.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong