From: sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Subject: Re: SILADAI
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 02:17:22 GMT

In article <42252@ogicse.ogi.edu> partha@mse.ogi.edu (R. Parthasarathy) writes:
>>Sundara Pandian writes:
>
>
>>      In ADAMI the veNpaa may be written as
>>\(TAMIL)
>
> [Repetition deleted..]
>
>>chaththiram praising the food served therein. The second meaning of
>>this veNpaa is
>
>>   aththamikkum pOdhil arisi varum
>>  = Fresh rice from the paddy fields is used for preparing the meals 
>>    served at the chaththiram ( Fresh rice arrives after sunset from
>>    the paddy fileds )
>>
>>  kuththi ulaiyilida oor adangum
>> = The rice cooked at the chaththiram is so abundant that it can be
>>    utilised for serving the entire town 
>>  
>>  oru pidi aNNam ulaiyilida veLLi ezhum
>> =  The rice served at the banana leaf is so bright that a handful
>>    of cooked rice is like Sun.
>>
>>   The chaththiram owner was happy to hear this second meaning and
>> he served another meal to Poet KaaLamEgam.
>>
>                                                           
>>                                                               - SP
>>                                                 sp2@cec1.WUSTL.edu
>
>Actually the second meaning sounds slightly different from the above.

    I understand that you have taken your second meaning from the
Kalki magazine. I don't think that this second meaning ca be deduced
from the Venpaa delivered by KaaLamEgap pulavar. The chaththiram owner
must have been baffled one more time if the poet had given this second
meaning in the Kalki article. The reasons are below :

>	Aththamikkumpodil arisi varum
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	 = Even during famine time rice will come to the Kaathaan Chatram
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    This doesn't follow from `aththamikkum pOhil'. First, `aththamikkum'
 has only one meaning namely the sunset period. It doesn't have a second
 meaning namely `famine time' in my opinion. Also, `pOdhil' doesn't mean
 `even' but `pOdhilum' does. But the word used by the poet is `pOdhil'
 and not `pOdhilum'. Hence this meaing doesn't quite follow from the
 above line.
>
>	Kuthi Ulaiyilida Ooradangum
>	 = It will satisfy the needs of the people

     As I have pointed out in my last article, the poet says more. If
 you take my second meaning for the first line, this line can be taken
 to mean that the rice cooked at the chaththiram is so abundant that
 it can be used to fill the entire town. The second meaning that I
 inferred from the silEdai applies to all days of an year, not just
 the famine time.

>
>	Oru pidi annam ilaiyilida velli ezhum
>	 = This refers to the feeling of goodwill in people after
>	   the Choultry is able to meet their needs during famine.

   I am at a loss to understand how this meaning was deduced from the
 original. Any takers ?
>
>
>Asokan writes:
>
>>Just to pick nits:
>
>>veLLi is, IMHO, not a reference to the sun.  It is a reference
>>to vidiveLLi, the morning star, aka venus.  Not that it changes
>>the meaning or SP's lucid description in any significant way....
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>- Asokan
  
 From the movie `ThiruviLaiyaadal' : 
    `paattezhudhip peyar vaangum pulavarkaL irukkiRaarkaL, kuRRam
 kaNdupidiththE peyar vaangum pulavarkaLum irukkiRaarkaL, idhil
 neer endha vagaiyaich chErndhavar enRu umakkE theriyum..'[ NagEsh ]

>	Partha sarathy
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                                                                - SP
                                                     sp2@cec1.WUSTL.edu

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