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From: craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz (Craig Shore)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
Distribution: world
Organization: Equinox Networks (Public access), Node: Yonder
Subject: Re: "Erotica" on video tape yet ?
Reply-To: shore_c@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1993 22:48:56 +1200

In <1hu5qiINNe6h@flash.pax.tpa.com.au>, David Clunie writes:

>Has this been released on videotape yet ? A la "Justify My Love". I
>would have thought it was controversial enough.

It was never played on TV was it???? The song was pretty high
 in the charts here, but i've never noticed the video on
 in the top 20 countdown's.

>Of course videodisk would be even better ... it would last forever !

You're very lucky they're a common thing there. The players are easy enough
 to get here now, but as for discs....  very few with a huge price tag
 to go with them!

I was just watching the "Deeper & Deeper" video, off TV, I gotta say,
 I was amused at the choice of fruit being eaten as Madonna & friends
 sit watching that guy in in underwear!!!! :-)

 Craig 
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna,rec.music.misc,rec.music.makers
From: gds@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (the reluctant musician)
Subject: Shep Pettibone on recording Madonna
Followup-To: alt.fan.madonna
Originator: gds@york.cs.ucla.edu
Organization: in your face!
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 93 04:12:29 GMT

EQ magazine recently featured an article on Shep Pettibone recording
Madonna.  One of the things I found interesting about the interview
was that Madonna talked him out of laying down some tracks on the
"Erotica" album that had a more "Vogue"-ish sound to them than the
tracks that are there.  Her claim was that "Vogue" was a
once-in-a-lifetime thing.

What do you all think of that?  Do you think "Vogue" is the best
Madonna will ever do, from a production, songwriting, and/or vocal
standpoint?  I have not heard much from "Erotica", but what I have
heard isn't as strong in any of those areas as some of her previous
material, IMHO.

As an aside, Pettibone also noted that, at Madonna's request, they
used Shure SM57 mics for recording the vocals to get a rougher sound.
I wonder if SM57s were used to record "This Used To Be My Playground"
also.  The vocal isn't as good as it could have been, IMHO.

--gregbo
Organization: Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:50:02 -0500 
From: John Trivelli <jt2n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Deeper and Deeper

sbiles@nmsu.edu (Susannah E Biles) writes:


>Hi all,
>I really like the song "Deeper and Deeper" and I have seen the video
>now HUNDREDS of times since that is how VH1 works..but anyway, I don't
>really understand the video. I realize that is it foolish to expect
>some sort of message or underlying meaning from music videos, but
>Madonna's are usually theatric and add volumes to the song (picture
>worth a thousand words syndrome). So what happened to this one? And
>why the tacky seventies hairdo?
>>Note also the tacky seventies clothing, even bell-bottoms and low waisted
>>jeans.  Also the tacky seventies colors and the spinning disco globe.

>>I lked the video.

>Susan (btw..I am a madonna fan)

>>Me too.

i was very pleased when i heard Deeper and Deeper and saw the video for it.
i like it because... well, quite honestly... its vacuous... much like her
early material. I can't stand it when madonna tries to be deep and profound
like in that "this used to be my playground" bullshit. madonna is about
surface... don't expect to "understand" anything she does. Even if there
is a message there, who cares?!?! i'm sure it's nothing important. Madonna
is at her best when she gets into the groove like a virgin or like some
material girl who can thank her lucky star that enough people give a
fuck when she expresses herself through erotica on some given religious
holiday even when doing so would not be in vogue.

Material Man
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: crafts@athena.mit.edu (The Invisible Man)
Subject: Re: Michael Jackson?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 11:58:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.195514.4836@news2.cis.umn.edu>, koex0001@student.tc.umn.edu () writes:
|> In article <1992Dec15.100924.6042@scorch.apana.org.au> jarqui@scorch.apana.org.au (Jared Quinn) writes:
|> >cc4507@u.cc.utah.edu (Chucki Carpinello) writes:
|> >
|> >|Is it true that Michael and Madonna are going to be baking a CD?
|> 
|> Giove the guy a brek. Big deel if he makes a speling eror.
|> 
|> As for the MLVC/MJ collaboration, it already happened in the form of the
|> ironically titled "In The Closet".
|> 
|> -- 
|> ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||koex0001@student.tc.umn.edu||||||||||||||||||||||||


Is that really Madonna's voice on "In The Closet"? It doesn't sound 

like her at all. Yeah I know they were seen together and what not

but that was all for publicity, for sure. Come on if she were involved

with MJ we'd know. Damn do you think she'd pass up an opportunity to rag

on the gloved one?

That voice ain't her.

In the opinion of this group what has been Madonna's strongest album?

I really like the new album and that gets my vote. The immaculate collection

was a poor album even for a greatest hits compilation.


Move to music, Go with the flow

Dan
crafts@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: j1moody@darwin.cc.nd.edu (American citizen)
Subject: Hmmmm...
Followup-To: alt.fan.madonna
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 00:42:05 GMT

I wonder why a board dedicated to someone like Madonna would have such 
little dialogue. 

Afterall, she published a bestseller picturebook called "Sex." 

She said her drive in life is from a fear of mediocrety. 
But maybe after the clouds clear and the cheap thrill is gone, she's just
plain mediocre.

Of course, I could be wrong.

Of course, every tree is judged by its fruits.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: koex0001@student.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: Re: Deeper and Deeper
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:11:10 GMT

In article <4fBz6ou00WB=8dDV0s@andrew.cmu.edu> John Trivelli <jt2n+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>why the tacky hai?
>
>i just got back from NYC. Neo-70s is the big thing now.
>
The video was filmed out in LA.
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 03:00:04 -0500 
From: John Trivelli <jt2n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Deeper and Deeper

>In article <4fBz6ou00WB=8dDV0s@andrew.cmu.edu> John Trivelli <jt2n+@andrew.cmu>.edu> writes:


>>why the tacky hai?

>>i just got back from NYC. Neo-70s is the big thing now.

>The video was filmed out in LA.
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im sure the same is tru in LA.


MM
From: madonna@time-warner.com (Madonna Louise Veronica Ciccone)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
Subject: Get a clue! (Was: Re: Where is Madonna?)
Date: 26 Dec 92 19:04:41 GMT
Organization: Sire Records, c/o Time Warner Inc.

In a prior article koex0001@student.tc.umn.edu () said...
>All you imposters go eat some fish! THIS is the real moi. I have been
>[Endless drivel deleted...]

Oh please, don't you people have anything better to do than to sit around a
a computer writing this crap. Get a life. Go out and bust your ass. Make
something of yourself for Christ's sake.

--
The Madonna                                             madonna@time-warner.com
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: greg_bradt@msmgate.mrg.uswest.com (Greg Bradt)
Subject: Re: Wanna buy some pics?
XUserAgent: Nuntius v1.1b3
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NntpPostingHost: greg_bradt.mrg.uswest.com
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:59:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.201010.4837@starbase.trincoll.edu> ,  writes:
>Hello all Madonna fans, and all Madonna imposters. I've got an offer that,
>hopefully, at least some of you will be unable to refuse:

Nice try, but any idiot knows that pictures like that would be worth a =lot=
more than the $20 a pop that you are obviously trying to defraud people out
of.

Greg Bradt aka ()The Lensman()

greg_bradt@msmgate.mrg.uswest.com | "Freedom means sometimes
Genie: G.BRADT                    |   having to put up with
Compuserve: 70206,172             |   things that really
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: edward@twg.com (Edward C. Bennett)
Subject: Re: Wanna buy some pics?
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:51:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.201010.4837@starbase.trincoll.edu> () writes:
>Hello all Madonna fans, and all Madonna imposters. I've got an offer that,
>hopefully, at least some of you will be unable to refuse:

I'm not interested in the pics, but I would like to buy the Brooklyn Bridge. ;-)

-- 
Edward C. Bennett					edward@twg.com
The Wollongong Group					(415) 962-7252
1129 San Antonio Road, Palo Alto, CA 94303
   "He's become a growling, snarling mass of white-hot canine terror"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: pandit@ssd.intel.com (Milind Pandit)
Subject: Re: Deeper and Deeper
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division (SSD), Intel
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:20:16 GMT

In article <4fCHBe600WB7A9P1lh@andrew.cmu.edu> John Trivelli <jt2n+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>i was very pleased when i heard Deeper and Deeper and saw the video for it.
>i like it because... well, quite honestly... its vacuous... much like her
>early material. I can't stand it when madonna tries to be deep and profound
>like in that "this used to be my playground" bullshit.

Perhaps the song should be called "Shallower and Shallower" ;-)

I liked it when I first heard it, but now I realize it's just recycled
old stuff, and I'm not just talking about the "Vogue" lyrics at the
end.

She has done MUCH better.
-- 
Milind S. Pandit			|
Operating Systems Engineer		| pandit@ssd.intel.com
Intel Supercomputer Systems Division	|
From: craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz (Craig Shore)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
Distribution: world
Organization: Equinox Networks (Public access), Node: Yonder
Subject: Re: "Erotica" on video tape yet ?
	<H.ea.9J10x7usGXw@yonder.equinox.gen.nz>
Reply-To: shore_c@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1993 00:18:40 +1200

In <H.ea.9J10x7usGXw@yonder.equinox.gen.nz>, Craig Shore writes:
>
>It was never played on TV was it???? The song was pretty high
> in the charts here, but i've never noticed the video on
> in the top 20 countdown's.

Replying to myself!! ... I saw it on TV tonight, at the end of
 an interview she did with a reporter from England.
Nothing amazing in the video really.

 Craig.

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: cc4507@u.cc.utah.edu (Chucki Carpinello)
Subject: Re: Get a clue! (Was: Re: Where is Madonna?)
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Student Mail Machine
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 15:54:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.082727.20808@netcom.com> linley@netcom.com (Bruce James Robrert Linley) writes:
>In a previous article cc4507@u.cc.utah.edu (Chucki Carpinello) spake...
>>/usr1/usr/cc4507 : whois -h nic.ddn.mil time-warner.com
>>		   No matches found "TIME-WARNER.COM"
>>
>>Faked article madonna honey?
>

>The good ol' whois database at nic.ddn.mil isn't always up to par on
>everything (and I don't just mean obscure UUCP sites). Case in point:
..I did it again, still no response :)
>
>Besides, though I doubt Madonna even knows what USENET is, I'd kinda like to
>think that if she did post, she wouldn't be dumb enough to give a real address
>as an obvious mailstorm would result.
>
:)
true


-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: koex0001@student.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: Re: I'm here!  <was: Re: Where is Madonna?>
Organization: Maverick/Sire
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:22:39 GMT

All you imposters go eat some fish! THIS is the real moi. I have been
perusing this "node" (dear old Alek taught me that word) for a couple of
weeks now, and I must say I'm pretty amused. NOT!

Anyhow, thanks to all my fans for bashing back all those totally clueless
people who can't appreciate what I do. I work hard to express my
sensibilities, and all I want is for people to understand that what I do
is merely that, not a condemnation of other lifestyles or so called
"family values". Let the go eat crap and die. Ahem.

My publicist Liz has told me not to say too much about my upcoming
projects, but I can't resist some leaks, so here goes. As some of you may
have already heard, my next single will be Bad Girl. I originally intended
this to be my 2nd European release, but your response to Deeper and
Deeper has been incredible. Thanks for your support, it is one of my
favourites too. Anyhow, the video for Bad Girl will be directed by none
other than Tim Burton (re: Batman fame). Watch out for it.

I've already started work on my second book for Warner, and am also in the
planning stages for my next album. Won't tell you the title of that yet,
but I promise it will be good!

Will check in on this list later. I have told Liz to read it every 2 days
to see who has been naughty or nice. My tits are simply itching right now,
and Ingrid is in the next room, so ta ta for now!

Love and spankies,
Dita
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:57:24 -0500 
From: John Trivelli <jt2n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Deeper and Deeper


why the tacky hai?

i just got back from NYC. Neo-70s is the big thing now.



J
 T
Organization: Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 02:25:15 -0500 
From: John Trivelli <jt2n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Get a clue! (Was: Re: Where is Madonna?)

>In a prior article koex0001@student.tc.umn.edu () said...
>>All you imposters go eat some fish! THIS is the real moi. I have been
>>[Endless drivel deleted...]

>Oh please, don't you people have anything better to do than to sit around a
>a computer writing this crap. Get a life. Go out and bust your ass. Make
>something of yourself for Christ's sake.


>The Madonna                                            madonna@time-warner.com

"get a life"... hmm... that would be quite a statement coming from
someone like madonna. i mean, i dont think she's even human anymore.
do you?


M M
                   /U\
                 (_\_/_)     "... can i interest you boys in some records?"
                  (~L~)
                   {=}
                   ```
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: berger@urvax.urich.edu
Subject: Re: Wanna buy some pics?
Reply-To: berger@urvax.urich.edu
Organization: University of Richmond
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 03:09:17 GMT

you poor little puppy.
you are SO tired.
we don't even acknowledge your existence.
we are so beyond you, bitch, you don't even appear in our world.
go back to Alabama or wherever it is you pushed that rock off of your head 
and somehow crawled out. Even the worms in your mouth are sick of you, bitch.
My smegma grows tired out your existence. Die fast, and do us all a favor.\























In article <1992Dec22.201010.4837@starbase.trincoll.edu>, () writes:
>Hello all Madonna fans, and all Madonna imposters. I've got an offer that,
>hopefully, at least some of you will be unable to refuse:
>
>I've a friend whose Daddy-O makes a shitload of money as a private
>investment banker in NYC. Park Avenue address, Rodins and Monets and
>Renoirs and more, blah blah blah. Anyway, this friend of mine, with a
>little parental string-pulling, landed a job in fantasyland, i.e. working
>in the music business out in LA. He'd spent a couple of summers out of
>college doing the same, and has been out the all year since graduation. He
>came back to the East Coast for several weeks to spend the holidays with
>family and friends, and brought these incredible photos which show Sandra
>Barnhart (sp???) and Madonna and a few other people who I cannot identify
>but my friend assures me that they are rather famous personalities. He was
>at a party (where he smoked a joint with Kareem) and ended up in a huge
>studio where this shit was going on in front of a small gathering of
>people. The photos show them licking ass, giving and receiving plate jobs
>(Sandra B. crouched over Madonna's face, taking a rather runny dump into a
>pyrex casserole dish which Madonna is holding above her face), Madonna with
>a huge strap-on fucking some guy up the ass and later licking the dildo
>clean, etc. I stole the negatives from my friend and may or may not return
>them. I'm willing to sell a set of 17 (the other 7 are bad exposures or
>shots of my friend's house) for $20. I assure you that the photos are real,
>and will even offer a money-back guarantee. If interested, post to the
>newsgroup.
>
>Ciao, Bella.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil)
Subject: Re: Deeper and Deeper
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Distribution: alt.fan.madonna
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 12:45:56 GMT

sbiles@nmsu.edu (Susannah E Biles) writes:


>Hi all,
>I really like the song "Deeper and Deeper" and I have seen the video
>now HUNDREDS of times since that is how VH1 works..but anyway, I don't
>really understand the video. I realize that is it foolish to expect
>some sort of message or underlying meaning from music videos, but
>Madonna's are usually theatric and add volumes to the song (picture
>worth a thousand words syndrome). So what happened to this one? And
>why the tacky seventies hairdo?

Note also the tacky seventies clothing, even bell-bottoms and low waisted
jeans.  Also the tacky seventies colors and the spinning disco globe.

I lked the video.

>Susan (btw..I am a madonna fan)

Me too.

Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: vctr@engin.umich.edu (Michel Victor)
Subject: Re: Get a clue! (Was: Re: Where is Madonna?)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 18:04:11 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
From: wildthing@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
Subject: Re: Wanna buy some pics?
Date: 24 Dec 92 08:00:33 EST
Followup-To: alt.fan.madonna
Organization:  Wright State University 

In article <1992Dec22.201010.4837@starbase.trincoll.edu>, () writes:
> Hello all Madonna fans, and all Madonna imposters. I've got an offer that,
> hopefully, at least some of you will be unable to refuse:
> 
> I've a friend whose Daddy-O makes a shitload of money as a private
> investment banker in NYC. Park Avenue address, Rodins and Monets and
> Renoirs and more, blah blah blah. Anyway, this friend of mine, with a
> little parental string-pulling, landed a job in fantasyland, i.e. working
> in the music business out in LA. He'd spent a couple of summers out of
> college doing the same, and has been out the all year since graduation. He
> came back to the East Coast for several weeks to spend the holidays with
> family and friends, and brought these incredible photos which show Sandra
> Barnhart (sp???) and Madonna and a few other people who I cannot identify
> but my friend assures me that they are rather famous personalities. He was
> at a party (where he smoked a joint with Kareem) and ended up in a huge
> studio where this shit was going on in front of a small gathering of
> people. The photos show them licking ass, giving and receiving plate jobs
> (Sandra B. crouched over Madonna's face, taking a rather runny dump into a
> pyrex casserole dish which Madonna is holding above her face), Madonna with
> a huge strap-on fucking some guy up the ass and later licking the dildo
> clean, etc. I stole the negatives from my friend and may or may not return
> them. I'm willing to sell a set of 17 (the other 7 are bad exposures or
> shots of my friend's house) for $20. I assure you that the photos are real,
> and will even offer a money-back guarantee. If interested, post to the
> newsgroup.
> 
> Ciao, Bella.

You send me the pictures and I'll send you the money.
From: samuel.lehrfeld@brent.uucp (Samuel Lehrfeld) 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.howard-stern
Subject: copyrighting Bababooey
Date: 20 Dec 92 15:56:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Brentwood BBS Harrison, NY  914-835-7898
Reply-To: samuel.lehrfeld@brent.uucp (Samuel Lehrfeld) 


RY>I hear Gary wants to copyright the Bababooey name, sound, effect, etc.
RY>and the station said he shouldn't do it?  Wonder why they would
RY>resist.  Seems to me Gary is sitting on a goldmine.  He could release
RY>Bababooey graphics (whatever those things are he collects), a
RY>Bababooey CD, a movie, comic books, etc.

Because they pay him less than 50k /year and want him to stay that way.
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From: sperdomo@samson.hac.com (Sanin Perdomo)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.howard-stern
Subject: Re: Butt Bongo rules!
Date: 22 Dec 92 19:34:01 GMT
Reply-To: sperdomo@samson.hac.com
Organization: Hughes Training Incorporated, WCO

I've got the same problem.  It sucks because I was told it would arrive in time for Christmas.

-cosmic
From: samuel.lehrfeld@brent.uucp (Samuel Lehrfeld) 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.howard-stern
Subject: Koppel does Stern
Date: 20 Dec 92 15:56:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Brentwood BBS Harrison, NY  914-835-7898
Reply-To: samuel.lehrfeld@brent.uucp (Samuel Lehrfeld) 

Nightline covered Stern's FCC troubles this week. This is all getting a
little too main stream for comfort
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From: Scott.Leigh@f932.n107.z1.ieee.org (Scott Leigh)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.howard-stern
Subject: THE KKK GUY
Date: 25 Dec 92 08:11:00 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:107/932 - C.F.O.N.J., Linden NJ


 Bz> I'm blind, but what I could hear from the vidio tape sounded like a
 Bz> very bored  Kkk guy, very subdude or on drugs.  The tape was funny
 Bz> nonetheless.  I wish I  could actually see it.
I don't know if he was bored or not, but he seemed to act the same way
as when I've seen him on Howard's show and talk shows.  Doesn't let his
feelings get the best of him.
                                        Scott

... All I need is a Wave and a board to surf it on.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.11

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