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From: amberle@athena.mit.edu (Amberle S Ferrian)
Subject: Re: The worst movie of all tim
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 23:42:37 GMT

In article <P3869@MK.maus.de> Thorsten_Kitz@mk.maus.de (Thorsten Kitz) writes:
>Hey Kurt,
>
>Kurt Haverstock wrote on Wed. 10-07-1992 at 20:49 in alt.cult-movies:
>
>KH> >in my opinion, the absolut worst movie ever seen is "Top Gun". In Germany
>KH> >it was rated as PG-12 (the same as PG-13, but from 12 years on) and it
>KH> >is very violently, even more than a stupid horror film.
>
>it is not the violence you see in this movie, it is the "Americans are the
>good ones, Russians are the bad ones", that I find very disgusting. OK, you
>can say, there are a lot movies with such a plot, but this one, was the worst.
>It is quite a few years ago, I've seen the movie, so I do not remeber the plot
>in detail, only my impression of it.
>One conversation after the movie, I found very interesting. It was with a
>14-year old girl and I asked her, if she liked the film. She said, yes, very
>much and I asked her why. She said, there was a nice hearty Love Story and a
>Happy End. This is actually the most annoying point of the movie. The black

She was probably just starstruck by Tom Cruise and all the beefcake in the
volleyball scene.  ;-)  (yes, it *was* impressive...)

>KH> The PG13 rating requires children under thirteen to be accompanied by a
>KH> parent...supposedly so the parent can explain the confusing parts.
>
>I see, I made a mistake here. In Germany we have a different rating system.
>The movie was rated 12, which means, the child must be 12 or older to view the
>film with or without parents.

I don't know about Germany, but since when has these ratings ever been
followed?  I've yet to see a kid get turned away from an R-rated movie (under
17 not admitted) for example.
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From: hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (DOG BASEBALL!!!)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Brazil
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:10:59 GMT
Organization: Ministry of Information, Lower Volta.

Inscribed upon tablet <1992Oct13.152643.15526@news2.cis.umn.edu>, the mighty donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) records thusly:
-=>I call for "Special Editions" of all these films, including all footage,
-=>with conlicting footage in supplements...Mohahahaha!

	don't laserdiscs come with multi-tracks, for different cuts (I heard
the Akira disc from hong-kong comes with the soundtrack and 2 language
versions of Akira on it..) it was a movie review show that displayed the
multitrack capabilities of LD's..  like how one sound track can have director
voice overs, etc..  then again the multi tracks might only be sound tracks
since I have yet the moola to invest in LD..  (anyone want to go in with me
and open a LD/anime/cult flix video rental place in Bflo? 8)

-=>
-=>					--Judex--

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From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Fav films?
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:04:41 GMT

In article 1858W@skylark.edb.tih.no, stigh@edb.tih.no (Stig Husby,o91a) writes:
> THE absolute MUST is of course:
> 
> HARDWARE (Richard Stanley)
> 
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its a culty movie but i didnt find it to be stupendous... it was lacking in some places ..
---
Steve C. 

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From: dug@athena.cs.uga.edu (Douglas Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Most SHOCKING film in my childhood
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:58:44 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Oct13.150613.14985@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.171038.28815@digi.lonestar.org> emartine@digi.lonestar.org (Edgar Martinez Martinez) writes:
>>
>> One of the best scares that I've ever gotten was in a movie that I saw back
>>when I lived in Mexico. It was called "El Mensajero del Diablo" (The Devil's
>>Messenger), I'm sure that's not the original title. The scariest scene in my
>>opinion was when the guy takes this baseball(?) that he keeps finding all over
>>the house, and throws it to a huge river from a bridge over it. He drives home
>>and when he opens the door, the ball comes bouncing down the stairs. It was one
>>of the best adrenaline(?) rushes I've ever gotten, scared the hell out of me.
>>It wasn't one of those BOO! scares that take you by surprise, it was just
>>shocking during the whole scene!
>>
>> Anybody remember the name of the movie? Supposedly, an invalid kid had been
>>drowned in his tub, and his ghost was still haunting the house. Anybody
>>remember the title of it?
>>
>>
>>
>>Edgar Martinez                UTArlington Co-op program (Great!)
>>emartine@digi.lonestar.org    DSC Communications Corp.  Plano, TX
>>b645zju@utarlg.uta.edu        University of Texas at Arlington
>>"My bathroom fan goes out straight into my living room"
>
>Sounds kind of like "Kill Baby Kill/Curse Of The Living Dead", but that
>was about a young girl who had died. It had really creepy scenes with
>bouncing balls that gave me the creeps as a kid.
>Is this out on video?
>
>					--Judex--

Actually, it sounds alot like The Chamleon starring George C. Scott.  At
least the ball and the boy drowning in the tub sequence.  

dug
From: rkim@OPUS.CALSTATELA.EDU ("Richard H.S. Kim")
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Akira experience
Date: 10 Oct 92 03:09:09 GMT

With so many people claiming the virtues of watching Akira, I decided to
rent it out at my local Warehouse (Music and Video).

Imagine my surprise to find that the clerk telling me that the video was
rated NC-17 and that she needed my signature on the rental slip!
The cover on the video said "Not Rated" or something like that.  Wierd.

Upon watching it, the bloody Hi-Fi kept flicking off, leaving me with
plain old mono.  The movie was >2hrs, so plan accordingly.

My thoughts?  Well, I've watched many animation films (disney && foreign),
so I was not new to any of this.

Good strong beginning, tight edits and closeups (classic Japanese anima styles)
very stylish moves and drawings (some obviously computer assisted) made for
a xDinteresting sci-fi movie.

However, like soooo many j-anima films before it, shaky story-line and "acting"
leaves much to be desired.  I know, I know, this is animation, but this is
getting on my nerves.  You see, people have complained why "anime" films 
aren't getting more popularity here, and the reason is flat characters and
storylines.  Hardly memorable.

Anyway, it's definately worth a look, but rent first to see if you like it.

Enjoy,   R. Kim

By the way, what constitutes the NC-17 rating?  Akira was violent, but hey,
it's just animation.  Geez.

email/inet> rkim@opus.calstatela.edu
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From: Matt Garretson (kaminl@rpi.edu)
Subject: Re: Most SHOCKING film in my childhood
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 16:49:10 GMT

Well, neither of these movies is shocking, but they both freaked the bejesus
out of me when I was a kid (even watching them on TV on a sunny Sunday
morning!).

THE CRAWLING HAND - I was always afraid the hand would show up under my
pillow or something. After seeing this again recently, I just had to laugh;
this would be a good one for MST3K.

THE THING THAT [C/W]OULDN'T DIE - The thought of a severed head (even one with
a cheesy beard) moving its lips was just too creepy for me way back then. I 
was afraid to open any box that was big enough to hold a head after seeing this
flick.

Come to think of it, THE SHE-BEAST spooked me when I was a kiddee, too. So
did DIE, MONSTER, DIE!  Boy, did I grow up on great movies, or what??? :)
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From: dcutter@oregon.uoregon.edu (dann cutter)
Subject: Anguish; horror movie
Organization: Stellar Enterprises
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 20:48:47 GMT

Has any body here seen Anguish... my roomie and I are arguing weather its a
shitty b class flick or a fairly good horror movie as I seem to think. Came
out in 1988, and that's about all I can remember about it stat wise.

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From: slb3y@cc.usu.edu (Punk Rocketeer)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: A CLOCKWORK ORANGE
Date: 9 Oct 92 08:31:47 MDT
Organization: Omega:  The Final Solution

In article <hgjrb4d6@csv.warwick.ac.uk>, stuam@warwick.ac.uk (The O.) writes:
> BTW, is it true that all US copies of Anthony Burgess' original novel
> don't contain the final chapter that Stanley Kubrick didn't film ?

     If it was ever true, it isn't now.  Some years ago, I found a
then-new paperback edition on a local bookshelf with the last chapter in
it.  Cover notes claimed it was the first US edition to have it, but
my information is limited to that and one "Philosophy in Literature"
course.
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From: stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame)
Subject: Re: viddy some more of ORANGE
Keywords: little dutch time bomb tick tock boom 
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:07:48 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.015327.9186@ucselx.sdsu.edu> maxc1104@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Avoid normal situations.) writes:
>
>  BZZT. I know. It was a barely-released comedy called _Disturbed_.
>  Also, netterpunks, don't forget _Get Crazy_, in which Malcolm does a 
>GREAT Mick Jagger parody. He even sings his own songs! One of his best films,
>IMO.
>

I also notice no one has mentioned a little movie starring Malcolm and some
woman who's name I don't remember.  I don't remember the title either but
it's something like _The Visitor_ or _The Intruder_.  Only two actors in
the whole movie, Malcolm playing cat and mouse with this woman.
*Wonderful* suspense flick which, IMHO, cops out on the ending.

If anyone can recall the title for me I'll be supremely appreciative . . . 

-- Stewart "at last!  a topic that *doesn't* mention Bladerunner" Tame		

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From: chorley@vms.ocom.okstate.edu
Subject: Re: Circuitry Man & Biggles
Organization: OSU College of Osteopathic Medicine
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 04:34:23 GMT

In article <grantham.718500799@milton>, grantham@milton.u.washington.edu (Henry Grantham) writes:
> donnell@barnacle.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
> 
>>Never heard of Biggles,????> 

Whaaat???? For the uninitiated [i.e. the Entire U.S.of A.( Unprincipled 
Stooges of Arkansas)] Biggles was the definitive British boys' hero of post 
WWII so lovingly ridiculed by Monty Python . Find a Brit between the ages 
of 35 and 50 and threaten to mug him if he doesn't tell you about the stiff
-upper-lipped character.

		Dr. Strabismus
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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: More "ALIENS" questions
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 05:21:57 GMT
Organization: None for me, thanks . . . I'm driving.

etheredg@iugate.ucs.indiana.edu (Wil Etheredge) writes:

>> Was there a scene in this movie where the marines set up a security
>> system with "sentries" . . . I thought I remember seeing this scene in
>> the original movie at the theater but have never seen it on video.  
>
> I am not sure as to why it didn't appear on the tape...but it was in the
> movie.  

The sentry gun scene wasn't in the theatrical version of _Aliens_ -- only
in the broadcast TV version and the special-edition video cut (which is
only out in the US on laserdisc so far).

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Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
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From: donnell@orca.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Anguish; horror movie
Organization: none
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:54:35 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.204847.27437@nntp.uoregon.edu> dcutter@oregon.uoregon.edu (dann cutter) writes:
>Has any body here seen Anguish... my roomie and I are arguing weather its a
>shitty b class flick or a fairly good horror movie as I seem to think. Came
>out in 1988, and that's about all I can remember about it stat wise.
>
>_______________________________________________________________
>Dann Cutter  Stellar Enterprises /
>dcutter@oregon.uoregon.edu

This is the one with Zelda Rubinstein that infests pay cable channels, right?
I thought it was okay, but silly. I don't go for "Movie-within-movie" plots,
and I found the constant "anythng goes" Freddy's Nightmare-cum-Jacobs Ladder
style left a bit to be desired. 

Better than some <Shadowzone comes to mind as worse>, but not essential
viewing or anything. Cathc it on cable, or rent it cheap.
I recall it showing up a lot on The Movie Channel and Cinemax, not too long
ago.

					--Judex--
From: leifv@dhhalden.no (LEIF HUGO VARUM)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Most SHOCKING film in my childhood
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:03:53 GMT
Organization: Ostfold College

In article <gunnarh.191.718903245@dhhalden.no> gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO) writes:
>From: gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO)
>
>My most traumatic film experience from my childhood was a series on 
>Norwegian tv some years ago. (10-15). It was called something about a ring,
I think it was called "Ta den ring". 

>don't remember, but it was really really really scary.
Not really. It was just stupid. The "Helmer & Sigurson" series was much more 
scary.

>Something about a mirror in it I think.>
>

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From: 01fortec@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Out of the Blue of the Western Sky
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:23:53 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

"Hot Shots" is a better movie than "Top Gun"


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From: stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame)
Subject: Re: Casino Royale
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:02:18 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.195712.22858@bmerh85.bnr.ca> shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
>
>This film has some truly hysterical moments although it does drag 
>in places. Woody Allen as little Jimmy Bond just cracks me up !

It dragged the first time I saw it but the second time through was
quite fun.  I think this is mostly due the fact that each director
worked on their own segment and the whole thing is a collection of
good short episodes but not quite a coherent, whole movie . . . 

	-- Stewart "Isn't Evelyn a *girl's* name?" Tame

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From: dil.admin@mhs.unc.edu (Dave Laudicina)
Subject: Re: A CLOCKWORK ORANGE
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:16:30 GMT

Don't forget O'Lucky Man with Malcolm McDowell
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From: k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (ce)
Subject: Re: alt.bladerunner
Organization: Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH, Hamburg
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 08:19:55 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.162840.24988@eecs.nwu.edu> kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman) writes:
>In article <JARI.MAKELA.92Sep30151854@valerian.hut.fi> Jari.Makela@hut.fi (Jari.Makela) writes:
>          How about someone creating alt.bladerunner,
>          alt.replicants.deckard-is-he?, alt.replicants.leon,
>          alt.replicants.am-i-one-too?, alt.replicants.d,
>          alt.bladerunner.spoilers and
>          alt.deckard.is.a.replicant.oh.yes.he.is.oh.yes.he.is.oh.yes.he.is.NOT
>          so that I could unsubscribe them all as the bladerunner discussion
>          seems to fill all the film newsgroups.
>
>Why bother? If you are too stupid to use the "Kill" feature of your newsreader,
>why should we believe that you are smart enough to use the "Unsubscribe" 
>feature?
>
>By the way, "replicant", "deckard", and "bladerunner" would kill most every
>Bladerunner thread. But I guess that that would be too difficult for you.
>
I really wish this were true but it's not...A lot of us are getting tired
of having to modify our killfiles every day because creative BR fans keep
coming up with new thread titles which don't contain *any* of the words 
we're set up to search for. I know I could search through the whole article
but that's awfully time-consuming. If you guys would be good enough to
always include the same keyword most of us wouldn't care whether you fill
up the newsgroup or not. As it is now i'm in agreement with Jari. Slopping
this stuff into 3 different newsgroups is a bit excessive anyway. Why don't
you limit it to rec.arts.movies.sf or alt.cult-movies? The volume of BR
postings is getting to the point where I think it warrants a new group.
There's no reason to get snotty about any of this. There are mechanisms
in place to keep everyone happy if used *properly*. Either cut down on the
cross-posting or stick a keyword into your posts. I don't have a problem
using kill files but I shouldn't have to list 10-12 different words to 
kill the same thread subject.


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From: lazarus@ug.cs.dal.ca (Chuck Turner)
Subject: Re: Highlander TV Series?
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:45:05 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.140521.1@ccsua.ctstateu.edu> kellyb@ccsua.ctstateu.edu writes:
>In article <charlesk.718311565@sfu.ca>, charlesk@fraser.sfu.ca (Charles Hak Kim) writes:
>> farant@terapin.com (Faran Thomason) writes:
>> 
>> Street Justice, like Highlander are both filmed in beautiful Vancouver
>> British Columbia.  (Canada for you Americans.  The big area right above
>> you.  No! North I mean, not the fucking sky! :)  The only mild amusement
>> I got from either show was playing name-that-Vancouver-landmark.
>> 
>> Charles H. Kim
>
>It sounds to me like the only mild amusement you get is when you take your 
>sex life into your own hands.Ah yes, Canada, where men are men and sheep are
>nervous.Take off you hoser,like there can be only one.

While we're bashing people for their nationality lets talk about a study of
5,000 American grade 8 students, of which 9% couldn't find their own country
on a map of the world (the only nation of the 26 surveyed with a percentage
greater than 2%) and better than 25% couldn't name their current national 
leader (also the highest number of those countries surveyed).

But I digress.  How many episodes have been shot, does anybody know?  And is
there a list of stations that are carrying it? 

						Chuck

PS:  Is McGyver's houseboat still moored on Granville Island?  Or have they
     moved them all out of there?

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From: gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO)
Subject: Re: Darkman
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 23:55:53 GMT

In article <67512@cup.portal.com> APLer@cup.portal.com (Roland Walter Besserer) writes:
>From: APLer@cup.portal.com (Roland Walter Besserer)
>Subject: Re: Darkman
>Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 19:47:23 PDT
>
>>I just saw Darkman. I thought it was great, a friend of mine hated it and
>>told me to pst on the subject here to see what you think of it. And so I did.
>>The thread is yours.
> 
>Pretty much one of the worst movies I've seen. Got close to walking out.
>Absolutely ludicrous plot, substandard F/X and awfull acting. In essence
>- it sucked - not even worth a $1.50 rental 
>
>roland

Well.....I guess everyone's entitled to their own opinions.


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From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: space cowboy movies
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 16:50:04 GMT


Battle Beyond The Stars was a sci fi version of The Magnificent Seven
(itself a Western of Kurasawa's The Seven Samurai), just as Outland was a
sci fi version of High Noon. Battlestar Galactica, with Lorne Greene,
was done as 'Bonanza in space'.