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From: seligman@CS.Stanford.EDU (Scott Seligman)
Subject: Re: Looking for unix box (Sun Sparc) based morse code software
Cc: b-gross@uiuc.edu
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:02:10 GMT

In article <BuC565.2KI@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> gross@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Ben Gross) writes:
> 
> I am looking for morse code practice software for a Sun Sparcstation


Try morse.shar in the "pub" anonymous FTP directory on hanauma.Stanford.EDU.

This should probably be added to the FAQ.


Scott Seligman		KC6OCK

Internet:  seligman@CS.Stanford.EDU
UUCP:      {uunet,decwrl,sun}!cs.stanford.edu!seligman
Packet:    kc6ock @ n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na
From: phantom@pro-haven.cts.com (Tiffany Keller)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: batteries
Date: 14 Sep 92 10:11:40 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-haven] - Pariahs' Haven BBS, 409/693-8262, 9600-300

% Help!! I've tried and tried but I can't get my battery through the serial 
% port. By turning it sideways and using the battery fluid as a lubricant I 
% got it in through the floppy disk drive bay, but my machine chokes evry 
% time I try to upload the battery....
% 
% 
% Robert Smits  VE7EMD Ladysmith B.C. 
% Ph (604) 245-2553 e-mail: emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca 
% PACKET VE7EMD@VE7KIT.#VANC.BC.CAN.NOAM                             
% 
        You people are wasting bandwidth with these posts.....It's not very on
topic, is it?
        
        "...you're being silly.  Stop it!....."  (Monty Python's Flying
                                                        Circus...)


        73....de T. Keller
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Internet:  phantom@pro-haven.cts.com      Tiffany Bloxom
UUCP:      crash!pro-haven!phantom
From: stevej@pillock.moron.vware.mn.org (Steven Jarosh, KA0VYB)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: PL-259s on 9913 Coax
Date: 9 Sep 92 04:36:59 GMT
Organization: 11th Hour Contest Group (North American Chapter)

William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.CR.rockwell.COM writes:

> >Why do the antenna/equipment manufacturers continue to insist on putting
> >PL-259/SO-238 connectors on VHF/UHF antennas/equipment??
> > 
> >Why do they make a 10 dB gain UHF antenna then stick a UHF connector on it??
> > 
> >Pete Rossi - WA3NNA                  rossi@gvl.unisys.com
>  
> probably because N connectors are:
> 
> 	1)	Expensive
        Sure, when you compare lousey nickel-plated PL-259's to high quality 
        gold and silver-plated true 50 ohm N connectors.
> 	2)	Hard to find
        Ever hear of a thing called a Hamfest??
> 	3)	Hard to assemble
        Give me a break. Even a store-bought ham can figure this out.
> 	4)	Instructions missing in Now You're Talking (handbook too?).
        Once again it is clear that the VHF/UHF/SHF community was left out 
        of this book.
> 	5)	Not in the Amateur Radio Tradition (tm).
        80 meters HF, need I say more!
> 	6)	?? add your own ??
> 
> 8-\
> 
> bill wb9ivr

Steve KA0VYB
From: tad@ssc.wa.com (Tad Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: more about ham legends
Date: 8 Sep 92 06:54:00 GMT
Organization: very little

In article <i672588@pro-haven.cts.com> phantom@pro-haven.cts.com (Tiffany Keller) writes:
>Ok....
>In <1992Sep4.153146.20014@cs.rose-hulman.edu>
>derry@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John Derry) writes:
>
>% 4.  If you set a car battery on concrete it will discharge it much
>%     faster than if you set it on wood.
>% 
>        
>        1-3....agreed....(and 5 as well......)
>        Number 4 however.....
>        I used to work for a security alarms company (we installed them...)
>and we used lead-acid batteries (such as car batteries...).  The owners and
>managers have been installing these systems for about 10 years and I was
>told Emphatically *NOT* to set these batteries on the sidewalk while
>unloading the truck.....I asked why and they told me that the concrete is
>an *excellent* earth ground and drains the battery in a hurry.....I didn't

But why would it matter if the thing that the battery was set on is
grounded?  I am assuming that the battery is built of insulated
material, like plastic.

Lead acid car batteries are set in metal cars that are "grounded" to
one side of the battery.



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From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: batteries on concrete
Date: 9 Sep 92 04:55:33 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.

DERRY@ROSEVC.Rose-Hulman.EDU writes:


>I cant' believe in this day and age one is called on to debunk this
>rediculous myth about placing Pb-H2SO4 batteries on concrete.

>Finally... No one has ever been able to explain why setting a battery on
>concrete is a special situation.  Those who believe in these wild
>OLD WIVES' TALES should come up with some reason using existing laws
>of physics.

>I hope this hasn't offended anyone.

Only to the extent that making a blanket statement about this rediculous (sic)
myth is a wrong as the myth.

The issue is not concrete per se.  The issue is placing the battery in a 
cold, damp environment, such as the envrionment that exists right over
most concrete floors in basements and so on.  This cold, damp enviroment
will supply moisture to the hydroscopic deposits that frequently
collect on the outside of a battery.  THIS process will discharge the 
battery.

Discovering this is as simple as placing a well used battery in such an
environment and probing around the case with a DVM.  The voltage you
observe is the tramp current finding its way across the case.

When a battery suffering this kind of discharge is picked up off the floor,
it is likely to be placed in a warmer and drier location.  This will obviously
stop the discharge.  Since most people are not engineers and since there 
is seldom asphalt in basements, the concrete gets the blame.  Regardless
of the cause, the "cure" works.

Instead of offending someone, you might instead try explaining why 
the conventional wisdom works sometimes.

John

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From: obrien@Aero.org (Michael O'Brien)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Help! I've got RF in the shack
Keywords: MC-60
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:51:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.18lkjnINNk8v
Distribution: world
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation
NNTP-Posting-Host: anpiel.aero.org

I've got a Kenwood MC-60 microphone and a Kenwood TS-440 transceiver -
not an unlikely combination, I think.  Unfortunately when I try to
use the microphone I get immediate reports of RF in the shack.  This
doesn't happen with the hand-held microphone or with the Heil headset
(which is what I use most of the time anyway - it's great).

I understand QST published a fix for this some years back but despite
some hunting I've been unable to locate the reference.  Can anyone help
me out?
--
Mike O'Brien
obrien@aero.org
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: cozyer@student.business.uwo.ca (Carl Ozyer)
Subject: ATV & KENWOOD TS790A
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 01:39:42 GMT

DOES ANYONE OUT THERE KNOW HOW TO OPERATE ATV WITH THE 1.2 GHZ
UNIT IN THE KENWOOD TS790A.
READING THE SERVICE MANUAL IT SHOWS AN ATV RX,TX PORT USING THE
287 MHZ I.F.
I HAVE CALLED KENWOOD CANADA AND USA AND THEY BOTH HAVE NO ANSWER.
IN  ONE OF QST'S PRODUCT REVIEWS IT ALSO STATES THAT ATV IS MADE
EASY WITH THE KENWOOD TS790A.
EVERYONE SAYS SO BUT WON'T TELL HOW !
IF ANYONE OUT THERE HAS SOME INFO PLEASE FORWARD IT TO ME AT.
cozyer@student.business.uwo.ca

cozyer@student.business.uwo.ca (Carl Ozyer)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
From: salnick@dejavu.spk.wa.us (There is no substitute for displacement...)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Undelivered mail
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:13:56 GMT
Organization: Not Organized


I have been getting more and more of these - do we have a loop out there 
in the net somewhere?

bob

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From: jab0684@usl.edu (Boudreaux Jean A)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: DJ-580T problem with audio drop out using T-SQL
Date: 11 Sep 92 04:06:06 GMT

Keywords: Alinco DJ-580T problem tone squelch
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 03:39:35 GMT

Also owning a DJ580-T myself I notice a similar problem with the Tone
Squelch in repeater usage.  While I have no trouble opening up the repeater
I find the the conservation tends to come off and on even though the
Smeter has a FULL reading.  This happens whether or not I switch bands.
Sometimes the audio opens up, sometimes it dosen't.  I thought I followed 
the instructions in the manual, but I could be wrong. 

Could it be that the repeater dosen't always properly re-trans the 
sub audible tone, and that maybe it is getting clipped?

I thought that the battery save feature might be affecting this, but turning
it off seems to make little difference.

73's DE KB5UDF

kb5udf@usl.edu
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Xref: sparky rec.radio.amateur.misc:15274 rec.radio.shortwave:6829
From: thorn@wam.umd.edu (Greg Thornwall)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Using WWV to set a digital clock?
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:21:22 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: usa
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park



Does anyone on the net know of any electronic kits that can decode
the WWV signal to use for setting a digital clock? HeathKit used
to have a clock that did this. It would set itself using the strongest
signal (2.5, 5, 10, 15 and 20Khz) coming from WWV by BCD codes.
Are there any vendors that sell (cheap?) clocks that use the WWV
codes for calibration?

Thanks in advance.  --Greg   thorn@wam.umd.edu
From: jty@teal.csn.org (Jay Young)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need news from Kauai
Summary: Haven't heard from friends and family
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:03:48 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

I am seeking an amateur radio operator who is able to contact another
on the island of Kauai.  I have not heard from friends and family in
the community of Princeville since before the hurricane.  If you are
able to request information as to the extent of damage in this area
and information as to the well being of individuals, I would appre-
ciate you contacting me through email at "psc@neocad.com" as soon
as possible.

Thank you,

psc@neocad.com

P.S.  My site does not subscribe to this newsgroup and I am unlikely
to see any responses posted here.  Please use the email address above
or the telephone number below.

Paul Crook
NeoCAD, Inc.
(303) 442-9121 x223
From: Don_R._Moberly.El_Segundo@xerox.COM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ACSB repeater in Los Angeles area
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:30:41 GMT
Reply-To: Don_R._Moberly.El_Segundo@xerox.com
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

The first ACSB repeater in Los Angeles, mabe in the country, on the 2 meter HAM
band  went active on Sept. 7 1992.
The repeater is located 5670 feet above sea level on Sunset Ridge in Eastern
L.A. county.
It is an open repeater the input is at 144.895 and the out put is at 145.495 no
pl is required but a pilot tone is, in order to take advantage of the
compandering that is built in to the unit.
Anyone with or with out ACSB equipment is welcome to use the machine. You can
listen to the output with a multimode rig or any single sideband rig that will
tune the 2 meter band. You will be able to talk thru the repeater If you mix a
pilot tone of 3100 hertz , (10 dB down),  with your microphone input to your
single sideband rig. If you wish more information on how to use the repeater or
to setup your own, how to get a rig of your own feel free to call me at area
code (310) 333 7389.

73
Don
WB6LFC
From: MOSIER@iris.uncg.EDU (Steve Mosier)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: batteries
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:53:26 GMT
Organization: University of NC at Greensboro
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

In response to battery uploads, T. Keller writes:

>         You people are wasting bandwidth with these posts.....It's not very on
> topic, is it?
>         
>         "...you're being silly.  Stop it!....."  (Monty Python's Flying
>                                                         Circus...)

Well, for goodness sakes.  I had rather thought we were onto something here.  
I suspect the problem with the serial port was that it was one of those 9-pin 
jobs instead of the full-size 25-pin connector.  You CAN get an adaptor.  But 
more importantly, it depends on how you walk up to the connector to start with.

	  "I'm from the Ministry of Silly Walks."  (Monty Python's Flying
							  Circus...)

steve - W3GRG
From: hugh@ipc11.gvl.unisys.com (Hugh Pepper)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: RG 8 atten @ 20 Mhz?
Summary: Flat SWR accross 5Mhz
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:20:56 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Paramax Systems, Ivyland, PA

In article <1992Sep4.131659.22366@gvl.unisys.com> rossi@gvlf9-q.gvl.unisys.com (Pete Rossi) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.225506.2633@cbfsb.cb.att.com> wa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.f.casey) writes:
>>
>> ... stuff deleted ...
>>
>>..... .... .....  Besides, some loss in your coax will make
>>your antenna's SWR look better, making the transmitter happier.
>>
>Higher losses may not necessarily make your SWR better at resonance but
>it will make the SWR curve "flatter" across the band.  When I hear
>someone claim they have an antenna that is flat 1:1 across the entire
>band (without a tuner) then I begin to wonder/worry is their antenna
>really just a big outdoor dummy load :-)
>
>=================================================================
>Pete Rossi - WA3NNA                  rossi@gvl.unisys.com
>
>Paramax Systems Corporation - a Unisys Company
>Electronic Systems - Valley Forge Labs - Paoli, Pennsylvania
>=================================================================

I once made a J-pole antenna out of copper tubing ( 3/8" i think). It was cut
for 2 meters, and I was able to get a 1.2 to 1 SWR match across 6 to 7 MHZ wide
and centered at 146.00 MHZ.  The antenna works very well, and does not exibit
outdoor dummyload characteristics :~)   I think the broadband ability of this
antenna comes mainly from the large diameter of the elements being the copper
tubing, instead of thin wires.. something about increased (or decreased) Q from
a large diameter conductor vs. a thin or small cross section conductor..


Please correct my logic, without  the lighter-fluid.!!! it's just my guesswork
here!!!  :~) 

KE3BI - Hugh@ivy.unisys.com

------------------------------------------
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KE3BI ('B`ad 'I`nfluence) |ph:	  215-443-7500
Paramax Systems -         |Ivyland PA, 18974
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: MSUORANTA@finabo.abo.fi (Mika Suoranta Tkkk)
Subject: Re: Help! I've got RF in the shack
Organization: Turku School of Economics, Finland
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:19:22 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <18lkjnINNk8v@news.aero.org> obrien@Aero.org writes:

> I've got a Kenwood MC-60 microphone and a Kenwood TS-440 transceiver -
> not an unlikely combination, I think.  Unfortunately when I try to
> use the microphone I get immediate reports of RF in the shack.  This
> doesn't happen with the hand-held microphone or with the Heil headset
> (which is what I use most of the time anyway - it's great).
> 
> I understand QST published a fix for this some years back but despite
> some hunting I've been unable to locate the reference.  Can anyone help
> me out.

	I used to have same problem. Is your microphone connector ok?
	Maybe poor contact there? Also, make sure your station has good
	rf-ground. RF-ground is not the same as AC-grounding. Have as
	short runs of wire as possible and make a good grounding system,
	many 1/4 wavelenght radials underground.

	To say it once more, poor grounding or connectors cause about 110%
	of all ham radio RF-problems, and good ground system is more
	important than having a large antenna.


				73 Mika


			



> --
> Mike O'Brien
> obrien@aero.org

   ______________________________________________________________________
    Mika Suoranta, Leirikatu 11, 20360 Turku, Finland, tel 358-21-382637
    Internet e-mail MSUORANTA@finabo.abo.fi    Ham Radio Operator OH1NZQ
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,sci.astro,sci.geo.meteorology
From: tim@ais.org (Tim Tyler)
Subject: Re: Watching Aurora/TV
Organization: UMCC
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:06:21 GMT

>In article <1992Sep4.134225.11052@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov>, snyder@ronin.lerc.nasa.gov (David B. Snyder) writes:
>> Yesterday evening (3 Sept) about 7:30 (23:30UT) I was switching through
>> the UHF band and found? Channel 31, apparently a Canadian station.  What
>> makes this unusual is that I live in Cleveland, we don't normally pick up
>> Canadian stations easily.  I'm guessing the reason for the reception 
>> is the auroral activity.  
>
>> Question for you in southern Ontario:  Where is Channel 31 broadcast from?
>> as well as Channel 9 and 38 and 40?  I'm getting the impression CBC is not
>> good about telling where the broadcasts originate.  
>
   Channel 9 is CBET in Windsor. Not really a major catch.
 
   This list might help you out.  I use an R-7100 with the TV-R7100 & a
Create Industries LPA mounted *vertically* for playing around with TV DXing.

                       TELEVISION STATIONS
 
Chan.  Callsign     Location  (Affiliation)
2         WJBK      DeTroit
3         WKYC(T?)  Cleveland, OH (NBC)
4         WDIV      DeTroit, MI
5         WEYI, WNEM Midland, MI (NBC), ??
6         WLNS      Lansing, MI (CBS) + HSC
7         WXYZ      Southfield, MI
8         WOTV      Grand Rapids, MI
9         CBET      Windsor, Ontario CANADA (CBC)
10        WILX      Jackson, MI (NBC)
11        WTOL      Toledo, OH (CBS)
12                  Home Shopping Club
13        WTVG      Toledo, OH (NBC)
 
16                  Saginaw, MI area
17                            (FOX)
18
19        WOIO      Shaker Heights/Cleveland (Fox)
20        WXON      DeTroit, MI (IND)
21
22                  CANADA (NBC)
23        WKAR / WAKR    MSU, East Lansing, MI (PBS)/Akron/Canton,
24        WNWO      Toledo, OH (ABC)
25        WEYI      Saginaw/Flint/Bay City/Midland (CBS)
26
27                       (PBS?)
28        WFUM      Flint, MI (PBS)
29                       (NBC)
30        WGTE      Toledo, OH (PBS)
31        WIHT      Ann Arbor, MI (IND)
32                  Windsor, Ontario CANADA
33
34
35                       (NBC)
36        WUPW      Toledo, OH (FOX)
37
38        WADL      DeTroit, MI (IND)
39
40
41
42        CKCO      Sarnia, Ontario CANADA
43                  Cleveland, OH??
44
45
46
47        WSYM      Lansing, MI (IND)
48
49
50        WKBD      Southfield, MI (FOX)
51
52
53        WLAJ      Lansing, MI (ABC)
54                  Windsor, Ontario CANADA
55
56        WTVS      Southfield, MI (PBS)
57
58
59
60
61                       Home Shopping Club
62        WGPR      DeTroit, MI (IND)
63
64
65
66                  DeTroit, MI
67                  Translator for Lansing Ch 6.
68
69


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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: F***ed (guess the naughty word!) up DJ's
From: julian@bongo.UUCP (Julian Macassey)
Date: 15 Sep 92 02:58:03 GMT
Reply-To: julian@bongo.info.com (Julian Macassey)
Organization: The Hole in the Wall  Hollywood California U.S.A.


In article <pschleck.716492742@cwis> pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU) writes:
>To the foul-mouthed DJ's from a North Carolina college radio station:
>
>- Hams (rec.radio.amateur.misc) are generally a conservative lot, and
>don't take kindly to messages carpeted with obscenities.

	I am pretty conservative. But I am not a prude. I have no
problems with the odd swear word - even an obscenity, but I haven't
seen any here. You can check alt.sex.bondage for obscenity, even
alt.tasteless has its moments. But occasional "effing and blinding".
Adds a bit of colour to life if you ask me.

>So, if you really want some assistance, how about rephrasing your
>request in a form presentable to polite company?

	Polite? I am pretty polite, I swear alot though. Now talking of
polite, should these fellows listen to an HF contest for that wonderful
"after you old boy" politeness? I don't think the amateur community is
in any position to provide pointers on manners.

	These fellows in North Carolina need a mixing board, they are
pretty angry that the big cheese gets a big remodel job but they don't
have a few bucks for the station. I can understand that. I would be
grumpy too.

	I wish them every success in their endevours. If I had a mixing
board in my telecom warehouse/garage, it would be on its way already.

	
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc