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From: skitchen@pilot.njin.net (Sco3tt Kitchen)
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Re: Quote 'o the day
Date: 24 Dec 92 05:07:19 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Dec23.194824.21182@microsoft.com> a-markov@microsoft.com (Mark Overby) writes:

> "Is it better to have loved and lost, or never to have loved at all?"
> 	-- (Not me, but I can't place the author)
> 

Let me place the author for you.  It is, in fact, Alfred Lord Tennyson
(1809-1892).  The quote reads:

'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

This comes from Im Memoriam (written in memory of Arthur Henry Hallam
in 1850), line 27, stanza 4.

All the above from Bartlett's, 16th edition, p.457.

Scott
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From: f35437c@saha.hut.fi (Aki Taskinen)
Subject: Re: Quotations regardin The Devil
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 20:47:57 GMT

"Vox populi, vox Diabolo" - 'the voice of the people is the voice of Devil.'

which I've also seen as "Vox populi, vox Dei"..

	- The Pope ?, both of them.

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From: s1mbm@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: Re: Simple one
Reply-To: s1mbm@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 13:08:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.171747.10938@news.media.mit.edu>, minsky@media.mit.edu (Marvin Minsky) writes:
>In article <schwartz.725040572@cunews> schwartz@alfred.carleton.ca (Saul Schwartz) writes:
>>Does anyone know the quotation to the effect that explanations should
>>be made as simple as possible but no simpler?
>
>That's the first line in my book, "The Society of Mind," as a
>quotation attributed to Einstein.  
>
>The funny thing is that I have a corredpondence with the archivists of
>the Einstein collection (at Boston University).  They can't find the
>source anywhere, and I can't remember where I got it.  I'm sure I
>didn't make it up, but I certainly could have paraphrased it from
>something else.  And I did hang around at the Institute for Advanced
>Studies in the early '50s when I was a grad student at Princeton.
>
>So, can anyone else remember seeing this somewhere?
>
>..

Wouldn't the quote be a version of Occam's Razor?




michael mcdonald
From: macika@emunix.emich.edu (Dominic Macika (Asst. Lab Supervisor))
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Re: Elwood Quote
Date: 23 Dec 92 22:03:25 GMT
Organization: Eastern Michigan University

In article <1992Dec22.180706.18829@gvl.unisys.com> jess@gvlf4-v.gvl.unisys.com (Jess Nadel) writes:
>It's 106 miles to Chicago,
>We got a Full tank of gas,
>Half a pack of cigarettes,
>It's dark
>And we're wearing sunglasses.
>

Hit it!

>              -Elwood Blues 
>


-- 
Dominic Macika

"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please"
			-Mark Twain (1835-1910)
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From: mcewin@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Mike McEwin)
Subject: Re: Quote 'o the day
Reply-To: mcewin@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Mike McEwin)
Organization: Cyber Labs, Scottsdale AZ
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:21:08 GMT

pgut1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Peter Gutmann) writes:
>In <C0198C.Hqw@boi.hp.com> kde@boi.hp.com (Keith Emmen) writes:
>
>> " It is better to have loved and lost. Much better."
>>        -- (Not me either)
>
>"It is better to have loved and lost than to have paid for it and not liked it"
>      -- (Not me either)

"It is better to have loved and lost than to have had your hand
 stuck in a blender."  --Not me, but someone who plays me on TV

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From: macika@emunix.emich.edu (Dominic Macika (Asst. Lab Supervisor))
Subject: Re: Money (was: Abstractions)
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:35:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.150914.13803@infodev.cam.ac.uk> amd@mail.ast.cam.ac.uk writes:
>Heard on a TV show (possibly Roxanne).
>
>	'Money doesn't buy you happiness.'
>	No, but it buys a parking space pretty close.
>

"Money can't buy happiness, so I guess I'll have to rent it."
			-"Weird" Al Yankovic 
-- 
Dominic Macika

"Thanks to the Interstate Highway System, it is now possible to travel
from coast to coast without seeing anything."
			-Charles Kuralt
From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer)
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Re: History (was: a paradox)
Date: 28 Dec 92 19:14:30 GMT
	<1992Dec22.021147.5983@quantime.co.uk>
	<1h7fleINNrgn@agate.berkeley.edu>
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


>>>>> "Chua" == Chua HakLien (chuahl@ocf.berkeley.edu)

Chua> Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
Chua> 						- George Santayana

 Those who do not understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it -- badly. 
      -- Henry Spencer

/Lars
--
Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | It takes an uncommon mind to think of
CS Dept., Aalborg Univ., DENMARK. | these things.  -- Calvin
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From: Chuck.Lavazzi@launchpad.unc.edu (Chuck Lavazzi)
Subject: Re: Re: Presidential quote (Reagan)
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 19:24:50 GMT


	Assuming it's still in print, a good source for Stoopid Reagan Quotes
is:  "There He Goes Again: Ronald Reagan's Reign of Error" by Mark Green
and Gail McColl (Pantheon Books, 1983).  For example, the Incredible
Shrinking Nuclear Waste Quotes:
"The truth is, all of the nuclear waste now on hand and yet to be accumulated
between now and the year 200, could be stacked on a single football field and
the stack would only be six feet high." (radio interview, 1978)
"The waste from one nuclear power plant in a year would take less storage
space than a dining room table." (radio interview, 1979)
"All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant could be stored under a
desk." (Burlington (Vt.) Free Press, 2/15/80)
	The real truth is that the football field would be for *one* plant
for *one* year, and then only the "high level" waste.
Chuck 
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From: tms@cs.umd.edu (Tom Swiss (not Swift, not Suiss, Swiss!))
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Re: Presidential quote (Bush/atheism)
Date: 25 Dec 92 21:01:14 GMT
Organization: The Reality Liberation Front (pixels to the people!)

dji@atson.asahi-np.co.jp (David J. Iannucci) writes:
>Speaking of presidential quotations, I read one on the net several years
>ago attributed to George Bush.  It sounded kinda outlandish so I was
>skeptical about it, but intrigued nonetheless.  It was allegedly spoken
>at a press conference, when the president was making some connection
>between religion and patriotism (the good kind, not the kind being tossed
>about recently on this group :^), and was asked if he didn't consider the
>patriotism of atheists to be just as valid as that of religious people.
>It went something like this:
>
>	"No, I don't think atheists should be considered patriots, or
>		even citizens.  This is one nation under God."
>
>Does anyone know if he really said this, or something similar?

     From an old copy of the Alt.atheist FAQ list:

23. "Did George Bush really say that atheists should not be considered
     citizens?"

     President Bush made the comments during a campaign stop on August 27,
     1988 at O'Hare airport.  He spoke with Robert Sherman, chief spokesman
     for American Atheists:

     RS: "Mr. President, what will you do to win the votes of Americans
          who are Atheists?"

     GB: "I guess I'm pretty weak in the atheist community.  Faith in
          God is pretty important to me."

     RS: "Surely you recognize the equal citizenship and patriotism of
          Americans who are atheists?"

     GB: "No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens,
          nor should they be considered patriots.  This is one nation under
          God."

     UPI reported on May 8, 1989 that various atheist organizations were still
     angry over the remarks.

     The exchange appeared in the Boulder Daily Camera on Monday Feb 27,
     1989.



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     campers you have been, and, as far as I am concerned, happy campers you
     will always be."
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                   whose capital Quayle pronounces "Pogo Pogo"
From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Doom...
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:20:55 GMT
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST



It is the doom of men that they forget.


	Merlin, in Edmund Mallory's _Morte_d'Artur_



Spidey!!!
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From: funkster@cats.ucsc.edu (Larry Hastings)
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Attribution and full text of poetry quoted in Willy Wonka movie?
Date: 29 Dec 1992 08:01:52 GMT
Organization: PereLine Data Systems
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The following poetry is recited by a "tinkerer" near the beginning of
Roald Dahl's movie "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory"... I've always
found it an enigmatic quote, but have never had a proper attribution for it.

"Up the airy mountain
 And down the rushing glen
 We dare not go a-hunting
 For fear of little men"

Does anyone know the author, maybe the title, and even possibly have the
full text of the poem?
-- 
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-- all stated opinions are mine.
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From: kamorgan@athena.mit.edu (Keith Morgan)
Subject: Re: Money (was: Abstractions)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 04:10:40 GMT

In article <Bzxzsw.H3v@csulb.edu> douellet@csulb.edu (Daniel Ouellette) writes:
>In article <1992Dec23.202653.4817@dcc.uchile.cl> ereimber@cipres.cec.uchile.cl (Reimberg Navarro Erich Eduardo) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec23.150914.13803@infodev.cam.ac.uk> amd@mail.ast.cam.ac.uk writes:
>>>	'Money doesn't buy you happiness.'
>>>	No, but it buys a parking space pretty close.
>>>
>>  How about :
>>    'Money doesn't buy you happiness,
>>     Money *is* your happiness'
>>
>>                            -ern
>  Or this:
>	'One thing about money, It doesn't make things worse.'
>					-Morrisey
>
Or:  'Money doesn't buy happiness but it does buy a better grade of
      misery.' 



--

Keith Morgan kamorgan@athena.mit.edu
In the end nothing could be said of his work except that it was
preposterous and true and totally unacceptable. Edward Whittemore
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From: news@geovision.gvc.com (News Administrator)
Subject: Re: Bathroom Graphiti 
Reply-To: pt@compass.gvc.com
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 06:10:04 GMT

ematias@csri.toronto.edu (Ummm... me!) writes:
>Arts & Science (the latter of which I'm a member).  In a bathroom of one of
>the Arts&Sci buildings was the message above the toilet paper roll:
>"Engineering Degrees -- please take one."

About as original as I expect from an artsie.  At Waterloo, there is a
signpost that points one way to the Faculty of Arts, and another way to the
Faculty of Engineering.  Guess which one usually has a sign saying 'Success'
and which one has a sign saying 'Failure' hung underneath it?

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From: glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier)
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Re: Famous Last Words???
Date: 31 Dec 92 14:22:17 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

In article <1992Dec31.072218.23753@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bscott@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ben Scott) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.135322.879@gdr.bath.ac.uk> enpnjat@gdr.bath.ac.uk (N J A Thorne) writes:
>>Can anyone recommend to me a good (and accurate)
>>source of "famous last words" quotes? Is there
>>such a thing as a book on the subject??
>
>Well, maybe not, but I've always had a favorite in this category:
>
>-----
>
>"...and always remember the last words of my grandfather,
>who said "A truck!"..."
>				- Emo Philips
>-----
>
>"What do you do if you step on a mine, Captain?"
>
>"Well, the usual procedure is to leap 200 feet in the air and spread
                                                               scatter
>yourself over a wide area..."
>			- Captain Blackadder, _Blackadder Goes Forth_
>
>.                            <<<<Infinite K>>>>
>
>--
>|Ben Scott, professional goof-off and consultant at The Raster Image, Denver|
>|Internet bscott@nyx.cs.du.edu, or call the Arvada 68K BBS at (303)424-6208.| 
>|"Don't tug on that - you never know what ][The Raster Image IS responsible |
>|it might be attached to." Buckaroo Banzai][for everything I say! | *Amiga* |


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these totally outrageous arrows arrows for a fortune, or what!" -- D.R.
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From: Dale@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Dale Gee)
Subject: Re: Bathroom Graphiti  
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 01:23:37 GMT

In article <1992Dec26.043014.21315@news.stolaf.edu> zimmer@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Wiseguy) writes:
>I recently saw this fine piece of bathroom graphiti when visiting a public
>restroom:
>
>	"God is dead!"
>		-Nietzsche
>
>	"Nietzsche is dead!"
>		-GOD
>
>Anybody else seen any good graphiti?
>
>-pete 
>0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
>0 zimmer@stolaf.edu | A total eclipse of the earth occurs when you put     0 
>0                   |      your hands over your eyes.                      0
>0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Seen on the wall of a truck stop mens room in Penn.

"Anyone Can Pee The Floor, Be A Hero And Sh*T On The Ceiling"
From: morin@noao.edu (Meg Morin)
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Re: Irish blessing
Date: 23 Dec 92 17:38:13 GMT
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson AZ

In article <1992Dec23.150319.2559@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ehp@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU ("Didi Pancake") writes:
>In article <1h7heuINNrmn@agate.berkeley.edu> chuahl@ocf.berkeley.edu (Chua HakLien) writes:
>>Does anyone know the complete sequence for the Irish blessing that begins
>>"May the road rise up to meet you.. etc.?"
>
>	May the road rise up to meet you
>	May the wind be always at your back
>	And may God hold you in the hollow of His hand.
>
>
>--
>|   Didi Pancake          |    Managing professionals                  |
>|   ehp@virginia.edu      |                  is like herding cats!     |
>|----------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Isn't it more like:

	May the road rise up to meet you
	May the wind be always at your back
	And may God hold you in the palm of his hand
	Half an hour before the Devil knows you're dead

Hmm???????

(I _could_ be wrong) :-)

-- 
 The Seeker		peace to those who come in peace 
 (morin@noao.edu)	    pity to those who don't 
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From: jchamblee@author.gsfc.nasa.gov (JEFF CHAMBLEE (512))
Subject: Churchill
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:51:00 GMT

Newsgroups: alt.quotations
From: treilly@iastate.edu (Edward C Reilly)
Subject: Re: Dorothy Parker
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:08:28 GMT

Two more Dorothy Parker Quotes:

Woman: I really can't come to your party Mrs. Parker, I can't bear fools.
Dorothy Parker.P.: "That's strange; your mother could"


Upon hearing the news of Calvin Coolidge's death:  "How could they tell?"
-- 

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From: rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Rao Akella)
Subject: Re: MST3K
Reply-To: rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu
Organization: Colon Cancer Control Study, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 20:56:41 GMT


In article <1992Dec31.060514.16199@eecs.nwu.edu>, kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman) writes:
> 
> Imagine sitting in a theature and having three jerks in
> front of you who will not stop talking through the entire film. It bugs me
> when it happens in real life, why would I want to see it on TV?

Ah, but that's because in real life, you're actually trying to watch the movie
because you paid to get in.  MST3K picks the very worst of the C-grade movies
to pan, and the only redeemable aspect of such flicks is the bantering 'bots.

Next time, concentrate on what they're saying and not on the movie (which is
always too horrible to concentrate on anyway).

-- Rao Akella    <rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu, rao%moose@umnacvx.bitnet>
From: pendleyiv@urvax.urich.edu (Vann Pendley)
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Re: British Parliament quote
Date: 31 Dec 92 12:14:16 GMT
Reply-To: pendleyiv@urvax.urich.edu
Organization: University of Richmond

In article <1992Dec27.203807.11458@sol.cs.wmich.edu>, Dale@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Dale Gee) writes:
>In article <TED.92Dec27105400@lole.nmsu.edu> ted@nmsu.edu writes:
>>
>>
>>or the famous exchange between lady astor (i think) and churchill:
>>
>>la: If you were my husband, i would feed you poison.
>>
>>wc: If you were my wife, madam, i would take it!
>>
>
>
>
>Another exchange between Sir Winston and I belive it was Lady Astor.
>
>"Winston your quite drunk!  Madame your quite ugly.  In the morning I will be
>sober where as you will still be ugly" 

	I think that you have misquoted.  This is a variation of what was
actually said.

"Mr. Churchill, you are fat."
"I may be fat but you are ugly, and I can diet"

This is not an exact quote but it is the proper subject.
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From: tcrook@u.cc.utah.edu (Tom Crook)
Subject: Re: Shakespearean Quotations: Do you fancy a few?
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Student Mail Machine
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 13:44:27 GMT

(Satya Prabhakar) writes: 
>I am a moderately big fan of Shakespeare. I propose we exchange 
>a few of his choice quotations.

Well, being a bearded programmer, my favorite Shakespeare quote is the
one that appears in my .sig.        |
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From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Chuck Kincaid)
Subject: Re: British Parliament quote (Disraeli?)
Organization: University of Fl, Department of Statistics
	<OLSON.92Dec25000132@husc8.harvard.edu>
Distribution: alt
Date: 26 Dec 92 19:46:05

>>>>> On 25 Dec 92 05:01:32 GMT, olson@husc8.harvard.edu (Chip Olson@somewhere.out.there) said:
 :>> In article <RODRIGUE.92Dec24171925@diamond.CS.Yale.Edu> rodrigue@CS.Yale.Edu (Joe Rodrigue) writes:

>Can someone correct me on this, it is a famous exchange between British
>legislators.  I would like to know the speakers, the date and circumstances,
>etc:
>
>A: [Would you bring a pox down on all of us, or just yourself?] (*very* approximate)
>
>B: That depends on whether I embrace your principles or your mistress.

 :>> Argh, I can't remember who it was, but the first part is:
 :>> "Sir, I predict that you willl die either on the gallows or of some loathsome
 :>> disease."

The first (I heard it in a slightly different form) is from William
Gladstone.  

charles kincaid
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	-- Douglas Adams

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From: bwalsh@math.rutgers.edu (Bertram Walsh)
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Re: Bathroom Graphiti & Fermat
Date: 27 Dec 92 15:42:30 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

>Anyone know the full quotation found in Fermat's notebook?  The one
>which starts, "I have a wonderful proof of the validity of the
>equation ..."  (or some such.)

Harold Edwards' book _Fermat's Last Theorem_ quotes it in English
translation [the libraries are closed here and I have no access to an
authentic Latin text]:

	On the other hand, it is impossible for a cube to be
	written as a sum of two cubes or a fourth power to 
	be written as a sum of two fourth powers or, in gene-
	ral, for any number which is a power greater than the
	second to be written as a sum of two like powers.  I
	have a truly marvelous demonstration of this proposi-
	tion which this margin is too narrow to contain.

This was transcribed from a note that Fermat had written in the margin
of Bachet's edition of the arithmetic works of Diophantus of Alexan-
dria.  The sentence you want to modify is probably the last one, which
is still in heavy use in the mathematical community 8-).

Further information in Edwards's book (Springer Graduate Texts in Ma-
thematics No. 50, 1977).

Bertram Walsh                   | Pereant illi qui, ante nos,
Dep't of Mathematics            | nostra dixerunt!
Rutgers University              | 
New Brunswick NJ 08903-2101 USA |           -- Aelius Donatus
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From: unglenie@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J Unglenieks)
Subject: Re: Presidential quote (Bush/atheism)
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 02:49:22 GMT

Tom Swiss writes:
>>>     From an old copy of the Alt.atheist FAQ list:
>>>23. "Did George Bush really say that atheists should not be considered
>>>     citizens?"
>>>     President Bush made the comments during a campaign stop on August 27,
>>>     1988 at O'Hare airport.  He spoke with Robert Sherman, chief spokesman
>>>     for American Atheists:
>>>     RS: "Mr. President, what will you do to win the votes of Americans
>>>          who are Atheists?"

Ron Dippold writes:
>>Except that he wasn't president, or even president elect.  Either
>>Robert Sherman cocked up when he asked he question and reported it, or
>>someone's been playing with the quote to give it more outrage value.

Leonard Erickson writes:
>Or they are (quite properly) saying "the man who is currently President 
>made the comments...". 
>
>"President Bush made the comments" does *not* necessarily imply that
>he was president at the time the comments were made, merely that he was
>president at the time the writer commented on the matter!

Yes, you are probably correct that the writer of the FAQ wrote,
"President Bush made the ...."  when Bush was President, but that is moot.
The problem involves something else, as Ron pointed out, that the
Chief Spokesman asked, "Mr. President, what will you do to win the votes..."
on August 27, 1988 but President Bush wasn't....yet.  You didn't read far
enough in Tom's original post to see the problem.

Rob U
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