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From: dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu (Dan Delany)
Subject: Re: Why No More Big Concept Albums
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 20:14:49 GMT
Organization: Shinola Industries: We know the difference.

According to my calculations, reczek@acsu.buffalo.edu typed...
>
>Applause!!!!!!
>
>Come on folks, RUSH makes music.  And granted, it is some of the greatest music
>and lyrics that I've ever heard.  But does that mean that every single lyrical
>sentence, phrase and word, each album cover and every comment the band has ever
>made holds some obscure, or otherwise hidden or encrypted meaning put there for
>the multitude to puzzle over and blithely discuss in some banal newsgroup?
>
>Gimme a break! Rush trivia is interesting, info on tours and upcomming albums
>is great, discussion of lyics is good (if it doesn't get out into left field),
>but so many of the articles in this newsgroup are just plain idiotic and a 
>waste of bandwidth that I find myself skipping over them and eventually hitting
>'c' to catch up because I'm fed up.
>
>My appologies to those of you who post intelligent articles to this group.
>
>Flames directed to /dev/null.
>
>Tim

Thank you!  Thank you!

-- 
"I sing the Body Electric; The armies of those I love engirth me, and I
engirth them; They will not let me off till I go with them, respond to
them, and discorrupt them, and charge them full with the charge of the Soul."
 -- Walt Whitman                     dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu (Dan Delany)
From: rone@aludra.usc.edu (Ron Echeverri)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush & Terry Brown
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:15:41 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <1992Aug17.174427.22100@berlioz.nsc.com> ivan@berlioz.nsc.com (Ivan Wemple) writes:
>If I'm correct, the last Terry Brown - produced Rush album
>was "Signals".  It makes sense to me that Brown simply said,
>"this album sucks", and threw in the towel.

It makes sense to ya, doesn't it.

>There hasn't been a good Rush album since.  It's sad, but
>true (as Rush used to be the greatest rock band in the world)...

The greatest rock band in the world is currently under discussion.  I think,
personally, that Van Halen is the greatest rock band in the world.  But you're
entitled to your opinion.

>Geddy, Neil, and Alex are has-beens.  And yes, I've listened
>to their recent frivolous wank and drivel thoroughly.
>It just don't cut it!

Let me get this straight then.  You're a Terry Brown fan, not a Rush fan.

What are you doing in alt.music.rush?


5150
hasbeens, my ass
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: Richard Barrett <demos@halcyon.com>
Subject: Re: The B-Man is back?
Originator: bbs@halcyon.com
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:22:59 GMT

jclarke@bnr.ca (John Clarke) writes:
> p.s. does anyone have anything good to say about the book?


Uh... ummm.... some of the pictures were nice... 

I agree. The book was a waste of money, except for the photographs. 
Bannashit's constant editorializing of the facts was lame ("Before the 
show, Geddy took a bottle of Jack Daniels, thinking that's what `rock 
stars' did to warm up. He was wrong." Okay, B-man. Preach a little more, 
if you don't mind), and overall it had such a "Gee, wasn't this neat?" 
atmosphere it was almost embarrassing to see how much this guy was 
humiliating himself.
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu (Dan Delany)
Subject: Re: NMS Renaissance!
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 20:18:37 GMT
Organization: Shinola Industries: We know the difference.

According to my calculations, adam@micromuse.co.uk typed...
> 
> OK, call me an idiot but just what is the NMS ?? Is it a rush magazine ??
> If so how do I get it considering I'm in the UK (but I do have ftp access
> if that helps)
> 
> Answers please !!!

Check the FAQ.

-- 
"I sing the Body Electric; The armies of those I love engirth me, and I
engirth them; They will not let me off till I go with them, respond to
them, and discorrupt them, and charge them full with the charge of the Soul."
 -- Walt Whitman                     dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu (Dan Delany)
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From: a909486@tiuk.ti.com (Julian Jones         (0032  jzj))
Subject: rush album list
Reply-To: a909486@tiuk.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments Ltd.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:53:33 GMT

I know this has probably been done many times before but can someone post a list
of Rush albums with dates (I'm new to this channel).

PS - I saw them on the RTB tour at Wembley for the first time and they were brilliant.
     It's a shame they don't tour here more often


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|Julian Jones Bedford England| 
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From: adam@micromuse.co.uk (Adam Kerrison)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: NMS Renaissance!
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:33:21 GMT
Reply-To: adam@micromuse.co.uk
Organization: MicroMuse Ltd, London, UK


OK, call me an idiot but just what is the NMS ?? Is it a rush magazine ??
If so how do I get it considering I'm in the UK (but I do have ftp access
if that helps)

Answers please !!!

Adam

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From: mcr1@quads.uchicago.edu (mark conley roller)
Subject: Re: lyrics
Reply-To: mcr1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:34:05 GMT



I think that all of the older lyrics are reprinted in the huge music 
volumes for RUSH.. Deluxe Edition Rush Complete Volumes 1 & 2. Volume
1 goes up to permanent waves, I think. I purchased mine at a local
CD store like Sam Goody, where the music section was. Good luck with finding
'em..

Also, new NMS came out- a guy said he met with Geddy at some VIP tour and Geddy
said something about Medieval influences on the ?lyrics? or ?music? - sounds
really killer to me. Could we see a renaissance of Rush with all of their
up to date wisdom on recording? What a bonus.

Chris
From: dpearson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Pearson)
Subject: Re: new to rush
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:52:10 GMT

angelrat@next18pg2.wam.umd.edu (RaT) writes:


>regarding my previous post..which albums are more 'story-oriented'..too 
>thanx
>for
>your
>time

>Rat

I would have to say that 2112 and Hemisheres are the best bet for what you are
looking for.  Grace under Pressure is also a pretty good one.  I can't leave 
out Signals with "the weapon" and "countdown" on it.

hope this helps.

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From: d40374w@kaira.hut.fi (Tero Valkonen)
Subject: Re: Rush & Terry Brown
Organization: The rational midnight star
	<1992Aug17.185351.19633@Csli.Stanford.EDU>
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:42:33

In article <1992Aug17.185351.19633@Csli.Stanford.EDU> mmarx@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Matthew Marx) writes:

   I'm sick of the "oh, this album is reeeeeealy kool. But theeese album
   reeeeeealy sux." It seems the in thing to say about any band is:
   "Yeah, I know _____(band name)_______. I really like their old stuff."
   This especially applies to Rush, R.E.M., LedZep.

Idiot. Perhaps you are too deaf to hear any changes in a band's music,
but when we speak about bands like Zeppelin, Rush, Yes or Genesis,
one MUST make a difference between the old and the new albums! You
just can't speak about Close to the edge and. Union in the same
sentence. New Genesis is very very different from the old stuff. I
love the old stuff, but hate the new crap; IMO, Peter Gabriel's
departure was the death of Genesis. 
My personal Rush favorites are Caress of steel, 2112, A farewell
to kings, Hemispheres, Moving pictures, Signals, Grace under 
pressure and Power windows. To me, the first two albums are too
direct Zeppelin rip-offs and the new albums really don't appeal
to me; they're too medicore. Permanent waves also isn't a very
good album on the whole, although there are several great songs
in there. 
--
Tero Valkonen
d40374w@kaira.hut.fi
From: rob@eebbs.isis.org (Rob Mayer)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush and homework
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 10:45:12 EST
Organization: Electronic Encounters BBS

ericm@eebbs.isis.org (Eric Mathurin) writes:

> tbeaudoin@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
> 
> >       How many of you have ever used a Rush lyric or song to complete
> > a school assignment???   
> 
> For my poetry project in grade 11 english, my topic was Neil Peart.  ;-)
> 
> Take care,
> Eric
> 
>  
Is that not the project where you screwed up and said Neil wrote
Cinderella Man, and didn't tell the teacher? What was the mark on that 
project? It was well done I might add.

Rob
From: gooseman@news.uwyo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: RUSH FANS!!! YAY!!!
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:08:00 GMT
Organization: University of Wyoming - Laramie, WY

Hi,

     I am a devoted Rush fan and I have at least 11 of their tapes... (up to
the latest, which I think is still Roll the Bones. Correct me if I am wrong)
     Anyway, I started getting into Rush when my cousin introduced me to the
Moving Pictures album. After that, well.....
     I think that Rush has steadily gained in musical style, despite detractors
comments that the band relied too much on synthesizer music for Power Windows
and other albums released around that time. I have always stayed with this
particular band, and I probably will until they drop dead.....they'll probably
do that on stage too. :)

     By the way, I LOVE the latest albums, Presto and Roll the Bones.

					John Brengman
					gooseman@corral.uwyo.edu
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From: smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead)
Subject: Neil Peart letter
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 06:21:20 GMT

   After receiving his award for Best Recorded Performance with "Roll the
Bones" in the Modern Drummer readers' poll, Neil wrote a letter of thanks to
all who voted for him. I could transcribe it here if anybody wants it.

Muff :)
-- 
_____________________________________________________________________________
$ smills@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu $ That's the way it crumbles... cookie-wise.  $
$ MuffinHed@aol.com           $          -Jack Lemmon, "The Apartment"      $
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From: dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu (Dan Delany)
Subject: Re: Fan Club Mailing Address at Last...
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 14:31:00 GMT
Organization: Shinola Industries: We know the difference.

According to my calculations, SESPC374@ysub.ysu.edu typed...
> Sorry this is two days late, I got buried under a class project...
>        Rush Backstage Club
>        1055 East Tropicana, #580
>        Las Vegas, Nevada 89119
> Send a SASE to the address and they will send you information....
> Enjoy...

This address is out of date.  Try this one instead:

   Rush Backstage Club
   951 Toni Ave.
   Las Vegas, NV 89119

(Gotta love that FAQ)
-- 

    typed by Dan Delany.
    (That's dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu or dan@bud.csc.calpoly.edu to you!)
    I failed the Turing test.
From: lynx@terapin.com (Debbie Caraway)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Here's the Rush xword
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:50:26 GMT
Organization: BBS

In article <Bss73C.3Ev@wpi.WPI.EDU>, avif@cs.wpi.edu (Avram Finkel) writes:
>Now, I'm sorry, and I hate to sound stupid, but where could *I* get a copy of
th
>is xword?  I've been away for a while, and I must have missed the original
posti
>ng...  I would appreciate it if someone could send me an anonymous ftp site
wher
>e I could get it, or if they could just mail it to me... 
>
>Thanks...
>Avi F.

The X-word puz. from the Signals tour program book was posted here awhile ago. 
The answers are in the program.
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: sh@cypress.com (Steve Haigh/VDSP)
Subject: HELP with TNMS ftp address
Originator: sh@kahuna
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor/San Jose, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:27:32 GMT

I don't have TNMS FAQ list and I have just got ftp up. Can someone please
mail me the ftp address info for TNMS.

Thanks Steve. sh@cypress.com


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From: gmiddlet@cecux1.cec.uchile.cl
Subject: RUSH IN SOUTH AMERICA
Originator: gmiddlet@cecux1
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:32:28 GMT
Distribution: alt.music.rush
Organization: Centro de Computacion, Universidad de Chile

Hello out there!

HELP! I need urgently information concerning dates of Rush concerts. I heard 
a rumor (might be just rubbish) that Rush Would be playing here in South
America, specifically in Mendoza, Argentina. Could someone please tell me 
if it is true or how to find out? Mendoza is just 400 Kms. away from where I
live (walking distance for a Rush fan).
Thanks in advance for your help! 

        gmiddlet@cecux1.cec.uchile.cl
 
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From: gtas1@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Terrance Stedman)
Subject: The National Midnight Star lives!!! 
Keywords: TNMS, Rush
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 02:34:06 GMT

	Yes!  The rush fans digest is back on line.  
-- 
 I ) I I <~ I_I   Terry Stedman
 I \ I_I _> I I   Internet: gtas1@pool.info.sunyit.edu
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From: ericm@eebbs.isis.org (Eric Mathurin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush and homework
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 13:40:25 EST
Organization: Electronic Encounters BBS

rob@eebbs.isis.org (Rob Mayer) writes:

> Is that not the project where you screwed up and said Neil wrote
> Cinderella Man, and didn't tell the teacher?

Yes, that was the one.  [blush]

> What was the mark on that 
> project?

I don't recall the exact mark, but it was an A.

Take care,
Eric

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From: jholtgra@afit.af.mil (Jeremy C. Holtgrave)
Subject: Re: A gentleman's excuse...
Summary: Go for Moving Pictures 
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:46:36 GMT

In article <1992Aug6.155754.5889@exu.ericsson.se> exumfs@exu.ericsson.se writes:
>In article 25844@rhrk.uni-kl.de, uet019@zx1 (Oliver B. Warzecha) writes:
>>I publically apologize for posting to alt.music.rush!
>>Forgive me! It was an accident! PLEASE!
>>I'M UNWORTHY! I'M UNWORTHY!
>>:)
>>
>>Now to the more reasonable part:
>>Since I don't have any records from RUSH, so I'm interested
>>to get a propose:
>>What is a good "first rush record to start with", to your opinion(s)?
>>Even a (not too large) selection would be a help. 

In my humble opinion, Moving Pictures is the ideal starter. It has the
"hits" as well as some out-of-the-way songs which will further your
interest in the group.  Pay close attention to "Vital Signs".

If you more into a heavier sound then 2112 is the classic starter.

=====================jholtgra@scgraph.afit.af.mil==============================
Jeremy Holtgrave                          "Besides, we have more guns and bombs
Air Force Institute of Technology          than you."
Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio
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Newsgroups: alt.music.rush,rec.music.makers,alt.guitar,alt.guitar.bass
From: casper@vxcrna.cern.ch (CASPER,DAVI./PPE)
Subject: Re: alt.percussion?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: drums
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:29:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.165106.29214@cs.ucla.edu>, wpf@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (William Fornaciari) writes...
>we're happy that drummers take the time to read this  :-)

I'm happy there's a drummer somewhere in the world who _can_ read...


Dave
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: osicoop@bwdls138 (Doug Gould)
Subject: Re: Rush & Terry Brown
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:11:41 GMT

leaver@prg.ox.ac.uk (Andrew Leaver) writes:
 <....>
: He's probabably here for the same reason as me - I absolutely *adore*
: every album from FBN to PeW. Totally and completely brilliant. Among
: the best albums of all time (all IMHO, of course!). However, as
: for the rest - p/g I find okay, but the others I don't like. I mean,
: I still buy the new albums for old time's sake - I am a Rush fan, after
: all. But that doesn't mean I have to like everything they've done.
: 
: Similarly, I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are a good number
: of fans of the later albums, say from PoW onwards, who aren't so keen
: on the earlier stuff that I like - is there anybody out there who
: fits that bill? I'd be interested to know!
<...>

I'm a relatively new Rush fan; been listening seriously to them for
about two years, and though I must say I'm not too keen on some albums
I seriously can't pinpoint a time before or after which I don't like 'em
as much.

( Just so no one takes offense... When I say "don't like" insert 
"dont like as much" B)

I never really cared for Caress of Steel or Fly by Night, but 2112 and
Hemisheres are near the top of my list of faves.  I liked Moving Pictures
( How could anyone *not* like Moving Pictures? ) and Power Windows but
didn't care for Signals.  It's the same with Rush's more recent albums;
liked - RTB & Presto, didn't like H-Y-F...

Rush has done a *lot* of stuff.  More than most bands I'm aware of...
And they haven't been standing still over the past ~18 years.  There's
enough of a musical selection out there for most of us to find something
that isn't quite to our taste.

The selling point for me is the things that haven't changed - quality music,
inspiring lyrics, and a willingness to keep moving to new ground.  I'm
just thankful for what I've got from them up till now and hoping to hear 
something new from them soon....


--
Doug Gould @ Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada

( If anything I've said offends anyone or causes a smidgen of trouble, then
BNR had nothing to do with, however if it's worth money... )
From: cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: The B-Man is back?
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:13:53 GMT
Organization: Priests of the Temples of Syrinx



In <1992Aug8.172908.1546@wam.umd.edu> skipdaly@next15pg2.wam.umd.edu (Scott David Daly) writes:

>	I have heard SEVERAL rumors that the B-Man is working on another  
>RUSH book!  Can anyone confirm/comment?

Wow! Another book from the World's Most Egotistical Author.
It's too bad the B-man is so full of himself, because Visions had
the potential to be a really good biography. As it is, it is only
the best Rush book by default - no one else has written anything decent.

I hope if the B-man is writing another book that he focuses on the BAND,
rather than on himself, and the band.

BTW, concerning Baneszcwitz (it's a lot easier typing 'B-man!'),
I heard that he had a falling out with the band after he released
a sample copy of HYF to a radio station back in '88 before the band
wanted him to....any word on if this is true?

 

--
cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu

"One likes to believe in the freedom of baseball" - Geddy Lee
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: davidw@cs.UAlberta.CA (Woloschuk David R)
Subject: Re: Rush and homework
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:37:11 GMT

Maybe this doesn't quite count, but for the last couple of months
I've been doing a cartoon strip for my University's newspaper, and 
occasionally I work Rush lyrics into my characters "conversations".

Also, my lead character "wears" a T Shirt based on a different album
cover with each new strip.  I've worked my way from RUSH to HOLD YOUR
FIRE but alas, the final summer paper was out and I couldn't get to 
ROLL THE BONES.  Perhaps in September....

Unfortunately, these little touches go largely unnoticed.  

/*********************************************************************\
*   David R! Woloschuk                                                *
*   davidw@manning.cs.ualberta.ca                                     *
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* Still searching for the perfect sig yet no closer to finding it.....*
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From: angelrat@next18pg2.wam.umd.edu (RaT)
Subject: new to rush
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:17:39 GMT


hey all, not a rush fan (not yet) but i have heard some of their stuff
roll the bones..tom sawyer (?)...dreamline ...i'm more into futuristic/  
non-mainstream/ spooky/ simply interesting concepts....which albums of  
theirs are sci-fi with lots of synths and still remain GOOD music ?

Rat
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