HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: heard@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (George Heard (Laurie 8))
Subject: New subject, the old is awful.
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 07:26:30 GMT

ta@labserver.canberra.edu.au (The Avatar) writes:

>fraser@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fraser Wilson) writes:
>>mddeitch@socs.uts.edu.au (Mark Deitch) writes:
>>>Do you not ever experience the desire for the softness and gentleness of
>>>an exquisitely beautiful young woman?

>>I can't understand people who go out with ugly women.
>>IT'S NOT NATURAL!

>BUT then there's the old hit: 'If you wanna be happy for the rest of your 
>life make an ugly women your wife...(come on George finish it off).'

Avatar, you're slipping... this Joe Dolce classic was not a hit!

The line was "If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, never make
a pretty woman your wife."

And now, the Laurie 8 opinion.

This thread has gone from bad to worse. Research into the female gender by
Laurie 8 has been conclusive in that there are intersting women and
uninteresting women. The concept of ugly and beautiful is not one that
holds much truck here. Softness is for toilet tissue (that's bog roll for
you, DAC), gentleness is a quality everyone should posess. As for natural,
everything is natural, except technitium, and the Actinide metals past
uranium.

Laurie (just call me a sensitive new-age male chauvinist pig) 8

Laurie 8 <heard@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au> | Some Driveways are concrete
Theoretical Chemistry PhD student        | Some Driveways have bricks
University of Tasmania, Australia        | Other Driveways
Unashamed 70s man, glad to be glam.      | Have Pebble-Mix - Laurie 8         
Opinions expressed above are those not only of Laurie 8, but the whole world

Newsgroups: aus.flame
From: Singular@csc.canberra.edu.au (Singo)
Subject: Re: aus.driving, coming soon.
Organization: Discontinuous
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 01:25:55 GMT

In article <osborn.721608457@dragon> osborn@socs.uts.edu.au (Tom Osborn) writes:

>axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair) writes:

>>Next week, I'll newgroup aus.driving.  It's for those of you who own
>>cars, or who like to post articles about cars.  Such articles need
>>to be posted somewhere other than aus.general.

>>Post to aus.news if you have any objections to the name.

Sounds great, but how about... 

aus.driving.holdens
aus.driving.fords
aus.driving.jap-crap
aus.driving.shitheaps
aus.driving.dui
aus.driving.horses.erotica

Singo - "...crossposted from aus.driving.holdens.utes.red.with-air"


Newsgroups: aus.flame
From: chris@state.COM.AU (Chris Keane)
Subject: Re: Leroy's poignant insult!!
Organization: Group Treasury, State Bank of NSW
Date:  9 Nov 92 00:27:59 GMT

SOCC9241430E@LUST.LATROBE.EDU.AU (JACKSON,Chris) writes:

>In <leroy.721021658@ultima> leroy@socs.uts.edu.au writes:

>> Well, I'll call you "Slut." I'm glad we've settled that. 

>Ohh no, not such a terrible and hurtful name, pleeeeeaaaaase dont call me
>that!!

>I must admit boxer, that you really have sensational comebacks!
                                                      ^^^^^^^^^

BWHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahaha!


Newsgroups: aus.flame
From: osborn@socs.uts.edu.au (Tom Osborn)
Subject: Re: Opium and Power Outlets...
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date:  6 Nov 92 01:44:42 GMT

mddeitch@socs.uts.edu.au (Mark Deitch)  writes:

>.... WHERE ARE ALL THE GEORGE BOOLE'S IN THE WORLD? How can a system that 
> was invented so long ago, still be the most efficient basis, for such 
> powerful machinery? Perhaps some more nerds should connect themselves 
> up to power outlets and smoke opium?

There is other powerful reasoning machinary which doesn't (in a strict sense)
use Boolean logic as its basis. The fact that you are reading this is some
kind of proof. The power of the proof and the power of the machinary depends
on how much you take in. However, the basic neural processing notion is:

networks of high fan-in non-linear analog processing units with adaptively 
weighted fan-in connections. The notion in this which Mark might find stunning 
is that such systems can learn through feedback of discrepancies between the 
environment and current capabilities. 

"If something doesn't make sense, something or other has to change (if 
 learning is to take place)".
Newsgroups: aus.flame,uts.flame
From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Subject: Re: Xposting from UTS II - Things just get worse!
Followup-To: uts.flame
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:46:45 GMT

mgream@acacia (Matthew Gream) writes:
 >*I* think that if you are consistant all semester, you can cope

But what if you find the subjects consistently worthless?

BTW, please keep this kind of shit in uts.flame ONLY -- aus.flame includes
people who couldn't give the slightest fuck about students' misplaced
angst and have heard it all before, repeatedly.


 >M.Gream@uts.EDU.AU - Matthew Gream - 'Edges have holes next to them .. '

Interested in the non-obvious holes, are you?  You know what that leads
to -- BASIC smeared all over your face...


--
 Iain Sinclair    axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.flame,uts.flame
From: ta@labserver.canberra.edu.au (The Avatar)
Subject: Re: Xposting from UTS II - Things just get worse!
Organization: University of the Clouds
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 04:51:05 GMT

axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair) writes:

>BTW, please keep this kind of shit in uts.flame ONLY -- aus.flame includes
>people who couldn't give the slightest fuck about students' misplaced
>angst and have heard it all before, repeatedly.

Never thought I would make a favourable comment your way Iain, but yes 
please too.


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Newsgroups: aus.flame
From: ta@labserver.canberra.edu.au (The Avatar)
Subject: Re: Leroy's homosexual fan-club!
Organization: University of the Clouds
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 23:52:53 GMT

osborn@socs.uts.edu.au (Tom Osborn) writes:
>>In fact, those stoic defenders of homosexuality have done little but amuse 
me,>>as I had no intention of portraying homosexuality past Leroy, his 
initial>>signature and replies, but if you glory-seekers, wish to amuse with 
your>>political, social or moral rhetoric regarding homosexuality, then good 
luck>>to you!
>
>Which all goes to prove that Chr'stopher J'ckson does not control his own
>destiny to a recognisable extent. 
>
>Into the KILLfile you lugubrious, egotistical nerd!

Q. What's the differnce between Leroy and a fridge?
A. When you take your meat out of the fridge it doesn't fart.


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Newsgroups: aus.flame,uts.flame
From: ta@labserver.canberra.edu.au (The Avatar)
Subject: Re: Homosexuality is NOT natural
Organization: University of the Clouds
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 23:11:38 GMT

mddeitch@socs.uts.edu.au (Mark Deitch) writes:

[lotsa stuff left out for brevity]

Despite the flames for grammar and punctuation its great to see it said as
it is.  Yes Mark a sweet smelling flame.

Just watch all the homohomophobics, ala heterophobics, climb on their soap 
boxes and mounds of indignity.  Great to see the sadly and pathetic, 
perverted minorities throwing tantrums.  

On the conciliatory side(no pun intended) pooh jabbers are a part of society 
and artistically make contributions of great worth. Just so long as they 
keep to their turf I'm happy to keep to mine.  Bloody Gay Mardi Gras etc are 
a blight.

Just watch the bandwidth meter go off the stops with this topic. Hey DAC 
good one for your stats.


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Newsgroups: aus.flame
Subject: Re: JACKSON fucks cats. Pictures at 10.
From: zoltar@amigans.gen.nz (Grant Thoms)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 14:18:15 GMT+1
Organization: Wanganui Amigans, Wanganui, New Zealand

brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis) writes:

> Great opening, Chris, really sucked me in.
> 
>                       Brent.
> 

Yes! and this subject really sucked me in!! Hmm, WOW! it's good to be 
back, I have missed all this essential flaming and general abuse on here!
 
Cheers,
Grant

-- 
Grant Thoms (aka Zoltar - Silent Imperium) Co-SysOp of Silent Imperium 
I can be contacted at zoltar@glasgow.amigans.gen.nz
or if there are problems contacting me there: zoltar@amigans.gen.nz
 
Standard Disclaimer.... 
 
Quote of the moment: `Please insert $10 for the next 0.5 seconds'
From: chrisf@nms.otca.oz.au (Christopher Fraser)
Newsgroups: aus.flame
Subject: Re: Leroy's homosexuality can rot in hell!!
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:24:46 GMT

IG@mullian.ee.Mu.OZ.AU (Inspector Gadget) writes:
>
> In article <chrisf.721358455@tbird2> chrisf@nms.otca.oz.au (Christopher Fraser) writes:
>
> > [ Chris ``typical dick'' JACKSON attempts to belittle the notion of
> >   homosexual love to finding an obliging fuck ]
>
> >Oblige? Chris, you're the one who *needs* to get a fuck!
>
> Typical dick. Thinks sex is the core of life. Hmmmm.

I couldn't agree more. Chris Jacksopn is exactly that sort of the Typical Dick
that finds the though of feeling attraction to a m.o.t.s.s frightening to his
own sexuality.

Cheers,
--
Christopher Fraser      "First time surrealists are often confused by the
chrisf@nms.otca.oz.au    similarities between fish and telephones"
From: chrisf@nms.otca.oz.au (Christopher Fraser)
Newsgroups: aus.flame
Subject: Re: Hell? Ha! Try teaching Ryan. Now that's bad.
Date: 9 Nov 92 08:19:35 GMT

brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis) writes:


> >Laurie (Brent, you're dropped) 8

> I introduce you to my parents, I take you riding on my bike into 
> remote bushland areas where we can be alone, I even let you call
> me "snookums" and this is how you treat me. That's the last time
> I pay attention to my horoscope. Love hasn't been in the air.

Perhaps you're actually a Virgo? Or a Caesarian?

Cheers,
--
Christopher Fraser      "First time surrealists are often confused by the
chrisf@nms.otca.oz.au    similarities between fish and telephones"
From: chrisf@nms.otca.oz.au (Christopher Fraser)
Newsgroups: aus.flame
Subject: Re: Hell? Ha! Try teaching Ryan. Now that's bad.
Date: 11 Nov 92 05:33:58 GMT

brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis) writes:
>(Christopher Fraser) writes:
> >Perhaps you're actually a Virgo? Or a Caesarian?
>
>No, I'm the golden shower sign: Aquarius.
>

Gosh Bent. I'll never again be able to take ``golden drops of mornong dew'' as
poetic.

Cheers,
--
Christopher Fraser      "First time surrealists are often confused by the
chrisf@nms.otca.oz.au    similarities between fish and telephones"
Newsgroups: aus.flame
From: heard@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au (George Heard (Laurie 8))
Subject: What I have just missed...
Summary: I missed the wrong couple of days, obviously...
Keywords: holiday sun fun homosexuality
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:20:05 GMT

Laurie 8 steps back into the dreaded MacLab of hell...

What have I missed while taking in the sights of the South of Tasmania (don't
anyone EVER go to "The Big Tree" under any circumstances...)?

I have missed Mark Deitch (the ultimate in Tool-Holes - a new insult I picked
up reading a plaque on apple-picking techniques at the Huonville Apple Museum)
blowing his wad over homosexuality. Well bugger me if little Marky Mark hasn't
run out of targets.

Here is a Laurie 8 community service announcement...

The following places are worth seeing on a holiday in Tasmania...
     - The Cadburys Factory, because you can buy cheap chocolate.

The following places are to be avoided at all costs...
     - The Big Tree
     - Cotter's Castle, Huonville
     - The German Miniature Railways
     - Franklin Craft Centre
     - Geeveston (no pub)
     - Richmond Maze

More postcards to follow... if you want to come to Tasmania for a visit, email
me (except Mark Tool-Hole Deitch).

Lots of love
Laurie 8

Laurie 8 <heard@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au> | Some Driveways are concrete
Theoretical Chemistry PhD student        | Some Driveways have bricks
University of Tasmania, Australia        | Other Driveways
Unashamed 70s man, glad to be glam.      | Have Pebble-Mix - Laurie 8         
Opinions expressed above are those not only of Laurie 8, but the whole world
Newsgroups: aus.flame
From: jeremy@sw.oz.au (Jeremy Fitzhardinge)
Subject: Re: The elusive new subject (Was: something else)
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd
Date: 13 Nov 92 06:36:18 GMT
Keywords: obscene gerund

In <leroy.721614683@yak> leroy@socs.uts.edu.au (Leroy) writes:
>Anarchy won't work.

You're only saying that to make me respond.

	J
From: dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton)
Newsgroups: aus.flame
Subject: Another day, another waste of space!
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 12:32:02 GMT
Organization: More like Dis~, really.
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

Cor, what a load of old cobblers.

48 missives in aus.flame, each successive one lamer than the last. 

Who knows, perhaps if the Avatar posted a googol of messages, the
network fascists would cut the feed to the Univeracity of
Canbeery.

One can but hope, och aye!

Hey, Tomasso - your articles are far better than anything by the
newbies around here. Although Brent is somewhat more pithy than
you, and pips you at the post as far as an interestingness rating
goes.

Oh, and Kate can just gobble her way to the bottom.

Dac
--
dac@prolix.apana.org.au              David Andrew Clayton.           // _| _  _
dac@prolix.sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au      Canberra, Australia           \X/ (_](_](_
Newsgroups: aus.flame,uts.flame
From: ta@labserver.canberra.edu.au (The Avatar)
Subject: Daisy Chain
Organization: University of the Clouds
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 03:13:58 GMT

mddeitch@socs.uts.edu.au (m d deitch) writes:

>>plutonic??????

>That was meant to read Platonic.

Should I Pray for Tonic?


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From: dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton)
Newsgroups: aus.flame
Subject: Re: Dov Berns In Hell
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 12:48:07 GMT
 <heard.720915469@franklin> <u867278.720921742@bruny> <heard.720926543@franklin>
Organization: More like Dis~, really.
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <heard.720926543@franklin>, George Heard (Laurie 8 writes:

Piss off, you dangling blob of excrement upon the
toxic-shock-syndrome tainted string of your mothers used tampons!

Go and populate the nether regions of Tasmania, and cease to
inflict your monotonous drivel upon the face of this froup.

[Read this message again slowly if you don't understand it]

Dac
--
Newsgroups: aus.flame
From: mddeitch@socs.uts.edu.au (Mark Deitch)
Subject: Re: Opium and Power Outlets...
Reply-To: mddeitch@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date:  6 Nov 92 04:05:30 GMT

osborn@socs.uts.edu.au (Tom Osborn) writes:

 >
 >There is other powerful reasoning machinary which doesn't (in a strict sense)
 >use Boolean logic as its basis. The fact that you are reading this is some
 >kind of proof. The power of the proof and the power of the machinary depends
 >on how much you take in. However, the basic neural processing notion is:
 >
 >networks of high fan-in non-linear analog processing units with adaptively 
 >weighted fan-in connections. The notion in this which Mark might find stunning 
 >is that such systems can learn through feedback of discrepancies between the 
 >environment and current capabilities. 
Yes, this is the sort of information I was hoping to learn from this degree.
However, I suppose I'll have to wait until 4th year to learn about it *sigh*
Not to enforce my point forever or to be too redundant, but how does a person who wishes to
get into the field of Computing Science research, whether it be with regards to
Artificial Intelligence or Computing Graphics, convince themselves of the worth    
of Business related subjects? I know what everyone will say, you cannot have everything
you want, the course has to allow for everyone, BUT it does not, in first year
you get introduced to basic Computing principles, fair enough, but then
you get introduced to Business principles!! WHy not cut down on the business
related Core subjects and put a few Graphics or AI introductory subjects in, just
so students can get a general impression of what each field of study holds.
If it were only me, that felt this way, then you could say, oh, he is just
a whinging, lazy, full of the exuberance and folly of youth, neanderfuck  teenager, but I think
you will find a large percentage of the Comp Sci. undergrads agree, that the course
could be a little more flexible.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

	     Mark Deitch           --          University of Technology, Sydney
       mddeitch@socs.uts.edu.au    --          Bachelor of Applied Science,
          One life to live.        --               Computing Sciences,
                                                       Undergraduate

Newsgroups: aus.flame
From: ta@labserver.canberra.edu.au (The Avatar)
Subject: Re: Hell? Ha! Try teaching Ryan. Now that's bad.
Organization: University of the Clouds
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 23:56:33 GMT

chrisf@nms.otca.oz.au (Christopher Fraser) writes:
>ta@labserver.canberra.edu.au (The Avatar) writes:
>>
>> chrisf@nms.otca.oz.au (Christopher Fraser) writes:
>>
>> >Perhaps you're actually a Virgo? Or a Caesarian?
>>
>> Another immaculate conception pulled out through the belly perhaps?
>
>
>Although, Brent would probably like us to belive he was born (borne?) to this
>world on the back of *big* BWM motorbike!

To be borne on the back of a BMW with Brent in the saddle would scare your 
pants off.


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Newsgroups: aus.flame
From: leroy@socs.uts.edu.au (Leroy)
Subject: Re: Leroy's homosexuality can rot in hell!!
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date: 10 Nov 92 06:01:43 GMT

ta@labserver.canberra.edu.au (That) writes:

>brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis) writes:

>>Dangerous attitudes, JACKSON. You shouldn't associate the aids virus 
>>with homosexuals cause its much more a hetero disease now. The gay
>>community has adopted safe sex much better than the breeder community.

>Too bloody right it is, NOW.

There probably are more gays already infected. However, the rate of
new infections is negligible in the "gay community." Currently, 
bisexual males who do beats are the most at-risk group. But hetrosexuals 
are in with a bullet.

> Whether the poofs are actually playing it 
>safer these days is a matter of conjecture 

The statistics do seem to back me up.

>and minority group propaganda, unless of course you have insider knowledge??

And if Brent did have "insider knowledge," it would still be 
"minority group propaganda."

> And what about the needle 
>fraternity; anyone who is desperate enough, needs to, thinks so little of 
>their body - for whatever reason, who shoots up probably has a limited 
>survival and/or caring instinct.

Absolutely. And Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone...

> Rough thing to say, but face facts.

"I've got bad news for you. Are you man enough to take it?"
"God no!" screamed Yossarian. "I'll go straight to pieces!"

Rough? Dumb, ignorant or purile are more accurate descriptions.
The facts, in this case, are just more swallowing.

> So far as the face to face folk, well the Caligula attitudes of 
> todays 'morality' give Mr AIDS his big in

MOM [smiling]: You kids. You're just like we were.

--- G M Heinrich  ( leroy@socs.uts.edu.au )
The Disco Years - 1992 (Drama: Set in the times of pet rocks, gas lines,
and macrame, a high school student's sexual passions are stirred in his
gym class.)
Newsgroups: aus.flame
From: ta@labserver.canberra.edu.au (The Avatar)
Subject: Re: Hell? Ha! Try teaching Ryan. Now that's bad.
Organization: University of the Clouds
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 23:58:08 GMT

chrisf@nms.otca.oz.au (Christopher Fraser) writes:
>brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis) writes:
>>(Christopher Fraser) writes:
>> >Perhaps you're actually a Virgo? Or a Caesarian?
>>
>>No, I'm the golden shower sign: Aquarius.
>>
>
>Gosh Bent. I'll never again be able to take ``golden drops of mornong dew'' as
>poetic.

More like: When morning(moaning) has broken the sparrows fart chokes the 
early worm.


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Newsgroups: aus.flame,uts.flame
From: ta@labserver.canberra.edu.au (The Avatar)
Subject: Re:  NOT natural ?
Organization: University of the Clouds
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 23:19:11 GMT

Singular@csc.canberra.edu.au (Singo) writes:

>>Argument by "NATURE". Sorry, Mark, but EVERYTHING in PARTICULAR is NOT
>>NATURAL - *in General* !!! This came about by a quirk of fate when an 
>>elephant stomped on a butterfly many years ago. Life is full of very
>>unnatural rare occurrences which nobody could predict - for example -
>>who would have predicted Mark's homophobia? It's a queer thing laddie!
>
>Sorry Tom, forgive my ignorance, but why do you say that and elephant
>stomping on a butterfly is an unnatural occurence ? . Does not the fact
>that it does occur make it natural ? Surely even gene mutation by say
>cosmic ray interaction is also natural, the diversity  of nature itself
>being guaranteed by quirky events.

Thus UNNATURAL = NATURAL...NOT


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Newsgroups: aus.flame
From: Singular@csc.canberra.edu.au (Singo)
Subject: Re: The elusive new subject (Was: something else)
Keywords: obscene gerund
Organization: Discontinuous
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 22:12:39 GMT

In article <axolotl.721559151@syzygy> axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair) writes:

>leroy@socs.uts.edu.au (Leroy) writes:
> >Peter Garrett is a Good Bloke. By that, I'm saying he's an acceptable 
> >Australian philosopher type - like a young person's Alan Jones.

>Would you care to expand on why Peter Garrett and Alan Jones are "like"
>each other?  They're completely dissimilar in every significant way.

The only similarity I see is that they both are NOT philosophers !

Singo - "...nuke the analogy!"
From: chrisf@nms.otca.oz.au (Christopher Fraser)
Newsgroups: aus.flame
Subject: Re: Leroy's homosexuality can rot in hell!!
Date: 11 Nov 92 05:36:27 GMT

brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis) writes:
> I wonder (a bit) what our little latrobe friend is really like. Is
> he/she really so tense and self-rightious? Or are you just a weenie
> who treats aus.flame as a place where you can mail your point of view
> without any recourse to logical argument? Your postings resemble
> the sort of ranting that people write on toilet walls. 


I think you've cracked it there Brent .. he's a Christian!!


Cheers,
--
Christopher Fraser      "First time surrealists are often confused by the
chrisf@nms.otca.oz.au    similarities between fish and telephones"
Newsgroups: aus.flame