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From: harry@cs.tu-berlin.de (Harald Brinkmann)
Subject: Strange effect noticed on EBU Sarajevo broadcast
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:47:49 GMT

Hello!

Last night I had the satellite antenna out for the EBU Sarajevo feed
with a reporter waiting to come on the ARD (German TV) Tagesthemen
news. Anyway when he came on, the picture on the ARD network was
reversed compared to the satellite feed, that is while on the
satellite the reporter sat on the left side of the picture, on ARD he
sat on the right side. And on the ARD signal you could just make out
the letters on his press pass to be reversed as well. In addition to
all that the signal on ARD was delayed compared to the 27.5 W feed,
probabaly because of a double hop through the EBU centre.

Anyway, does anyone have an idea on how this mirror image thing may
have happened and why?

Look forward to your theories...

  Harald

Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: "bob lyle" <bob.lyle@canrem.com>
Subject: baseball
Reply-To: "bob lyle" <bob.lyle@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 11 Oct 92 21:28:41 EST

For those with Ku capability, the Baseball Playoffs are available on
Ku without commercials on SBS-5. Both Tr.8 and 12 have been used.
(SBS-5 is a 14 transponder bird. 1-10 are vertical, 11-14 are
horizontal.) These are in-the-clear CBS backhauls. The C band
backhauls are VC-1 encrypted.

Regards!

 Bob 


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From: jsimon@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Gerald Simon)
Subject: Re: Toshiba vs. Chaparral
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:25:19 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester


I've had a Montery 90 for a couple weeks now and have no complaints with it.
I feel the remote is fine, the picture quality is GREAT, and have no problems
with it.  It's full of features (some of which I haven't played with - or
found - yet).  I don't understand why people complain about the remote
for the Montery......it's layed out well, labled and easy to understand.

The (mail order) price between the Toshiba and Chaparral (for the system)
were not that far apart.

Jerry Simon
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: leikvoll@hsr.no (Morten Leikvoll)
Subject: BSB decoders (PHILIPS STU902)
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 09:13:21 GMT

I am looking for the cheapest PHILIPS STU902 BSB (not rebuildt) decoders. I
understand they are down to 5-20 pounds in the UK.... Do you know any
adresses/phone numbers?

-Morten Leikvoll (Is it short enough?)
From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Talknet feed?
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:45:44 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <bregman.718663529@ds2.uh.cwru.edu> bregman@ds2.uh.cwru.edu (Dave Bregman) writes:
>
>Does anyone know if Talknet (i.e. Bruce Williams, Myrna Lamb, etc) is on
>any of the Satellite Audio channels?  It would be nice to listen to them since
>A.M. doesn't come in well in my area.
>

The original Talknet is distributed by DATS (probably SEDATS also) --
but I have found some stations on SCPC that has them.  I am not
sure how many are on G2 (I bet there are many!) but I personally
listen to Talknet on G6/3 (WHO-AM, Des Moines) SCPC channel.

Robert
roberts@triton.unm.edu
From: hew@Turing.ORG (Harold E. Wheaton (N6WUX))
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Cheap 3 foot Ku band dishes
Date: 13 Oct 92 02:57:22 GMT
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.

Today, I ordered a complete 3 foot Ku band dish+receiver from Hannah and
Hansen in Pittsburg for $299+ S&H.  The following are in the package:

3 foot offset fed parabola (your choice of pole mount or floor setup)
Drake 1.1 db NF LNB
60 feet of RG-6 cable
"BR1000" receiver  [The model number suggests it's a Pansat.]
(For $100 extra [or so], one can substitute the BR1000 for the Uniden 3000
and the Uniden has a remote and is digital obviously.)

This outfit primarily caters to Asians since Ku evidently has foreign
programming.  Also, these guys don't have a catalog and you're pretty much
forced to go with the package.  (I did get the catalog to Skyvision, I
saw the Ku band deal for $479, but I found things got expensive quickly
if I put together my own setup.)

One should note this is not a couch potato arrangement.  The BR1000 is
manually tuned (analog tuning I believe), the polaity adjustment is
manual, and the dish will not track (automatically) at all.

However, this is something amateur radio operators and satellite tinkerers
may want.  I took a chance on it and it will (it better!) arrive on 
Wednesday.  Hope this helps anyone out there!
					-Harold
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From: Bill Luciw <luciw@apple.com>
Subject: Re: please send FAQ
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:18:46 GMT
X-Xxdate: Fri, 9 Oct 92 12:09:44 GMT
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Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Oct5.154527.22999@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> laura.k.watson,
watson@cbnewsl.cb.att.com writes:
>. Please send me the FAQ so ...

Please send me a copy, also.

Thanks!

-- Bill

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From: mark@wupost.wustl.edu (Mark Pohlman)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: RS-232 -> Infra-red Programmable Controller
Date: 16 Oct 1992 09:11:03 -0500
Organization: ONC - Washington University in St. Louis
NNTP-Posting-Host: wugate.wustl.edu



Can anyone give me any information on a product which will allow me to 
control my infra-red remote controlled equipment through my computer.
Basically I'm looking for a unit with an RS-232 port(computer connection)
and infra-red output device. AMX makes a unit which does this but it is 
programmed from the factory for a specific handheld remote. I am looking 
for a unit which can learn the IR pulse stream from a handheld and allow 
me to do custom programming for a variety of functions as I need them.

You can e-mail me any info directly or post it to this newsgroup.

Thanx,
-- 
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From: duncan@ravel.ati.com (Jim Duncan)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re:      Shaun Kenny
Date: 10 Oct 92 19:15:42 GMT
Reply-To: duncan@ravel.ati.com (Jim Duncan)
Organization: KUFX 94.5 FM Stereo, San Jose, CA 'The Fox'

>In article <9210011949.AA05103@relay1.UU.NET>,         "(Ron Gomes)" <rrg@PROLOGIC.COM> writes:
>|> Shaun Kenny, the man behind Greensheet/Boresight, who is legendary in
>|> the TVRO business, died this morning (Oct. 1st) in an accidental fall
>|> from a roof.
>
Oh No!!  This is the first day of my rec.video.satellite newsgroup
feed, and among all the new goodies is this notice.  What a character
this guy was.   I used to let absolutely nothing interfere with
watching Boresight.  It is depressing to know he's gone now. 

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From: Richard B. Langley <lang@unb.ca>
Subject: Re: Cheap 3 foot Ku band dishes
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Distribution: global
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 12:41:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.025722.29773@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> hew@Turing.ORG
(Harold E. Wheaton (N6WUX)) writes:
>Today, I ordered a complete 3 foot Ku band dish+receiver from Hannah and
>Hansen in Pittsburg for $299+ S&H.  The following are in the package:
>
>3 foot offset fed parabola (your choice of pole mount or floor setup)
>Drake 1.1 db NF LNB
>60 feet of RG-6 cable
>"BR1000" receiver  [The model number suggests it's a Pansat.]
>(For $100 extra [or so], one can substitute the BR1000 for the Uniden 3000
>and the Uniden has a remote and is digital obviously.)
>
>This outfit primarily caters to Asians since Ku evidently has foreign
>programming.  Also, these guys don't have a catalog and you're pretty much
>forced to go with the package.  (I did get the catalog to Skyvision, I
>saw the Ku band deal for $479, but I found things got expensive quickly
>if I put together my own setup.)
>
>One should note this is not a couch potato arrangement.  The BR1000 is
>manually tuned (analog tuning I believe), the polaity adjustment is
>manual, and the dish will not track (automatically) at all.
>
>However, this is something amateur radio operators and satellite tinkerers
>may want.  I took a chance on it and it will (it better!) arrive on 
>Wednesday.  Hope this helps anyone out there!
>					-Harold
>


How is Anik E-2 reception in NE U.S. or eastern Canada with these 3 foot
dishes?
If it's acceptable, I might spring for one of them.  Here in F'ton, Anik E-2 is
at an elevation of about 24.6 degrees.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:19:41 EDT
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: test2

>test2

Ze test rezults vere possitiff.

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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:28:40 -0700
From:         "(Bob Wier)" <rrw@ELDEN.CSE.NAU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Descriptive Video Broadcasting

 I have found this a couple of times on American Movie Classics, on
 either Saturday or Sunday - on OLD movies.  I've actually thought about
 maybe recording them on audio cassette tape to use while I'm commuting
 back and forth across the Navajo Reservation between Flagstaff
 and my home in Colorado.  There are parts of it which are pretty boring
 (except for the southern end of Monument Valley) and there aren't even
 any rest stops.  Their descriptions are pretty good - I think you could
 follow the action with no picture.

 If you nail down exactly when these occur, please post.

 THANKS


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From: adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP (Adam Mottershead)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: More thoughts on Satellite City TV
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 14:05:06 EDT
News-Software: FSUUCP 1.2 R4
X-Mailer: DigiQR 5.38b
Reply-To: adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP (Adam Mottershead)
Distribution: world
Organization: The All Ter Nah Tive Un Der Groend

I was doing some sky scanning today (as usual) and I came across the Mr.
'Downtown' pricing of Satellite City TV.  Now I don't usually watch the guys
but I said what the heck.

They were trying to push the Tracker 10's saying they 'had to move 40 units
in 3 days'.  Well when I tuned them in three weeks ago they also said the
same thing.

What shocked me the most was the price.  They said the Tracker 10 listed for
$1725 and that they were selling them for $1025.  To the unsuspecting viewer
this seems like a good deal.

But, SkyVision sells them for $1389 (with the latest ROM upgrade).  The guys
at SCTV (interesting acronym) sell them without the VC II+ module, so you
aren't really getting a deal at all.

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Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 09:16:23 CST
From:         ST9530@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU
Subject:      FAQ

Will the appropriate kind soul please forward a copy of the FAQ for this
discussion list?

Thanks in advance

ST9530@SIUCVMB.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: huopio@lut.fi (Kauto Huopio)
Subject: Re: signals on Intelsat K?
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:54:59 GMT
Disclaimer: Opinions expressed below are writers own.
Peruutus: Mielipiteet ovat omiani.
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland

Accoring to the listings, there are 4 transponders active to Europe:

freq	used by		singal type		audio
11.472	Brightstar/WTN	NTSC-positive/PAL	6.60 7.40
11.499	Brightstar	NTSC-positive/PAL	6.60 7.40
11.526  Brightstar	NTSC-positive/PAL	6.80 7.50
11.558  Brightstar	NTSC-positive/B-MAC	6.60 / AUDIO1

--Kauto
	
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Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: waddlech@wam.umd.edu (David Akkarach)
Subject: Ku band sat system
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:45:18 GMT

Can the person who posted about the Ku sat sys with the Drake 1.1 LNB 
few days ago please help me by giving the phone # for that company?

How much is the system and what is the shipping expense. Thanks.

-Dave (waddlech@wam.umd.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: anderson@zymurgy.bms.com (Jay Anderson)
Subject: Trees; How bad are they?
Organization: BMS Pharmaceutical Research Institute
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:46:33 GMT

At my location I have a good view of the central part of the satellite arc.
The east and west portions are blocked by about 1 tree each.  The question
is how badly will I lose due to the trees.  I'm considering putting up an
8-10' dish.  The outcome of this may deter me from setting up a system (and
right now I *want* a system ;-)).  BTW, I live in Philadelphia and right now
fall is upon us and the trees are shedding their leaves, but I have some
branches and limbs.

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From: phil@phunt.MV.COM (Phil Hunt)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Usenet/r.v.s. stats
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 09:13:05 EST
Organization: Howtek, Inc.
Reply-To: phil@phunt.MV.COM
Distribution: na
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <p3dp8nk@lynx.unm.edu> (rec.video.satellite), roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers) writes:
] and here is the stat I thought you'd find interesting.  I found
] it on the news.lists newsgroup:
] 
]  
]  
]          +-- Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide.
]          |     +-- Actual number of readers in sampled population
]          |     |     +-- Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all
]          |     |     |      +-- Recent traffic (messages per month)
]          |     |     |      |      +-- Recent traffic (kilobytes per month)
]          |     |     |      |      |      +-- Crossposting percentage
]          |     |     |      |      |      |    +-- Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr
]          |     |     |      |      |      |    |      +-- Share: % of newsrders
]          |     |     |      |      |      |    |      |   who read this group.
]          V     V     V      V      V      V    V      V
]   
]        17000   570   72%   678  1352.0     2%  0.11   1.2%  rec.video.satellite
]  
]  
] Robert
] 

Well, I guess my idea to start this group in April, 1991 was a good idea!!!!

I am glad it's readership is so hi and the group is so well-recieved!!!

Phil Hunt
From: fractal@infoserv.com (Tom Hedges)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: question for South Scanner readers to answer...
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 14:37:40 PDT
Organization: Fractal Design Corp.
Reply-To: fractal@infoserv.com (Tom Hedges)
Distribution: na
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1

I think it's a great idea for those who can 'see' to the East. Although
my house is blessed with an excellent view of the Clarke belt, it
is in central California and I therefore can't be of much help.

I used to recent sun outage and a clear day to record the exact minute
the sun first hit my dish, based on calculations from that data I think I can
go as far East as 58 or 59 degrees West longitude --- not much help for this
project. If only there were more birds out over the Pacific!

-------------------------------------
Tom Hedges
fractal@infoserv.com --or-- fractal@applelink.apple.com
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Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:10:43 CDT
From:         ZHANG@UKANVM.BITNET
Subject:      FAQ?

Is there any FAQ or introduction about HOMESAT?

Thank you!
ZHANG@ukanvm.bitnet
From: gnome@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Gary)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: SATMAN won-out in the bidding...
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:44:17 GMT

Hi,
   After reading a lot of the recommendations for TVRO
equipment that have been mentioned on the Net, I came up
with the following configuration -

    Item #  Description
    ------------------------------------------------
    1       Drake 1324 IRD w/remote & VC           
    2       Orbitron #10C dish w/quad-leg support 
    3       30 Deg. C-Band LNB (show supplier)    
    4       .8 db Ku-Band LNB                    
    5       Corotor II+ Feed                    
    6       24" ball bearing mover
    7       200 Foot Install kit              
    ------------------------------------------------

So, I called the major satellite dealers around the country and
got the best quote for this system from the sales department at
SATMAN.

Their quote for the equipment listed above, came in at $1996
which includes shipping and handling.  SATMAN's closest compettitor
came in $137 higher.
Since I've already heard good remarks on the level of service
from SATMAN, I guess I'm sold!

For completeness -
SATMAN
6310 N. University  #3798
Peoria, IL   61612
800-472-8626

Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: Re: baseball
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 21:15:28 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: rec

In article <199211.4082.2781@dosgate> "bob lyle" <bob.lyle@canrem.com> writes:
>For those with Ku capability, the Baseball Playoffs are available on Ku
>without commercials on SBS-5. Both Tr.8 and 12 have been used. (SBS-5 is
>a 14
>transponder bird. 1-10 are vertical, 11-14 are horzontal) These are
>in-the-clear CBS backhauls using 6.2L/6.8R stereo. The C band backhauls
>are
>VC-1 encrypted.
>

I've noticed that there are sometimes baseball backhauls on SSBS5 (
and SBS6 as well!).  There is a neat catch -- these are not
true CBS backhauls.  They have the CBS graphics and announcers
on one of the audio channels, but shots selected and the
time that the graphics are put on the screen are different.  I
checked this with the pictures from my local CBS affiliate.  I
was watching on satellite and I saw a graphic for Ruben
Sierra (for example).  I quickly turned to my local aff, and
that graphic wasn't there.  I then flipped to satellite and
the graphic was still there.  

I've noticed a foreign language telecast on G6 that is ITC. 
One channel has foreign language, one channel has CBS, 
and one channel has natural sound.  The pictures/graphics
are not the same that are used on the CBS telecast.

Robert
roberts@triton.unm.edu


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From: klimasewski@fccvde.enet.dec.com (My name is...)
Subject: Serria II,vert roll,fix
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date:  8 OCT 92 07:53:49    

The fix was to change C182, a 22uf non-polarized cap.
This cap is located at the video input of the receiver.


                                  Ken

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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:22:55 MEZ
From:         "(Wolfgang R. Schulz)" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Subject:      Re: Intelsat K in North America
              Oct 7, 92 7:46 am

> When German stations started to use logos there was a big out-cry. But now
> we are used to it, and with the increasing number of channels started to like
> it, because it makes identification a lot easier. However, during commercials
> the logo is shut off. You then have to wait until the commercials are over
> before you know what you're tuning. I wonder why they do it?
>
> Jurgen
>
Jurgen:
You do not really wonder why, do you. We have to take them out because
the customers who pay a lot to have their commercials aired, do DEMAND
to have them taken out, because it might destroy their artwork...
Wolfgang.


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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 10:11:02 EDT
From:         Bill Jones <wejones@CRDEC7.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re: satellite usenet

>
>  This is basically the last time I would like to get into this. I
>  apologize to the rest of the readers of this newsgroup for submitting
>  them to my irritable post. However, I cannot stand half truths,lies,
>  and utter nonsense.
>
I would have to agree with you that this seemed to be an irritable, but
worse than that, you seem to be personally attacking someone who did
nothing more than express an opinion.  I saw no half truths or lies,
and nonsense is rather relative.  I have come to expect to see
heated differences of opinion over the net, but it is sad to these
discussions turn into personal attacks.  I think this post crossed the line.
> --
> len@netsys.com (rutgers!netsys!len) "What a long,strange trip it's been.."
> For more information regarding the Pagesat Usenet to Satellite Uplink system,
> mail to "............ advertisement deleted....)
> .
I think you've done a good job of proving the point of the previous poster,
at least to the extent of demonstrating that this is a scheme aimed at
increasing sales of hardware which is unnecessarily sophistocated and costly
for the purpose at hand.
I don't think advertising a commercial venture of this sort is
appropriate over the internet.
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