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From: biske@cs.uiuc.edu (Todd Biske)
Subject: Re: AeroBlades vs. Roces Barcelona model
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 02:51:01 GMT

shandley@leland.Stanford.EDU (Simon Handley) writes:

>Does anyone know what the difference is between Aeroblades and the
>Roces "Barcelona" model?  

The Barcelona and the Aeros are actually quite a bit different.  Roces used
to manufacture all RollerBlade boots, but this is no longer the case.  
RollerBlade boots are now made my Nordica.  Anyways, here goes:

Similarities:
	Both boots are vented
	Both have Memory Foam liners
	Both use a three buckle system on the boots
	Both come with 76mm 78A wheels

Differences:
	Aeroblade boot is vented much better.  The vents are larger and more
	  numerous.
	The Aeroblade boot is made from BladeLite (tm) while the Barcelona 
	  uses the same material as the CoolBlade (polyurethane?) which 
	  results in a 15% heavier boot.
	Aeros have a graduated brake, can also accept older style RollerBlade
	  brakes.
	Barcelona uses a custom Roces brake, not commonly available for people
	  in the cornfields of the midwest like myself. 
	Barcelona tends to run $30-$40 cheaper than the Aeros.  

I just purchased a pair of Aeros from Courtesy Sports in Los Altos (before I
drove back to Illinois for school) and did a lot of research on the Roces vs.
RollerBlade debate, and I think I bought the better skate.  That's an 
opinion however.  My final decision was made when I tried on BOTH skates at
Courtesy.  Then my mind was made up.

-tb

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Subject: Re: More rollerhockey stuff: sticks
From: ndliles@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:01:49 EST

In article <R2s1PB3w164w@cellar.org>, toad@cellar.org (Tony Shepps) writes:
> dcchan@engin.umich.edu (David Chi Wei Chan) re-posts:
> 
>> From: piltch@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Nancy Piltch)
>> 
>> 3. Length: I've been told that a stick should come up to about the
>> player's chin while wearing skates, but I find this uncomfortable.
> 
> The rule of thumb I used when finding a stick was the rule of thumb in
> Thomas's FAQ: find a stick that comes up to your chin or mouth when you're
> wearing sneakers.  This rule seems to have worked pretty well.
> 
> It has been difficult to find plastic-bladed sticks that are long enough;
> difficult, but NOT impossible!  Most of these sticks, it seems, are made
> for youngsters.  Every Mylec stick I've seen has been way too short.  But I
> finally found a shop that has a good selection of all sizes of sticks.

	I have found that the length of a stick really depends on the
person. Myself, I like a shorter stick say one that comes up to the
middle of my chest with skates on. You can buy the mylec blade and put
it on a shaft from a broken hockey stick so really you can make the length
any that you want.

> 
> A note on blade curvature: don't think that the most curved blade is the
> best.  I just read Gretzky's autobiography, and he points out that he
> doesn't use a blade with a lot of curvature.  He wants to be able to
> back-hand the puck with predictable results.  I figure he's the best possible
> role model on these subjects...
> 
Again, it depends on the individual. With the relativly soft Mylec blade
a larger curve has kept the ball from sliding off the end of the blade when
shooting as the blade tends to bend. However, as I agree with you on a smaller
curve and backhand control maybe one can find a happy medium. On the ice,
I prefer a small curve.

> --
> Tony Shepps  toad@cellar.org
> Preferred address:  toad%cellar@tredysvr.tredydev.unisys.com
> Snail mail:  P.O. Box 655, Blue Bell, PA  19422
> Public access and thoughtful conversation:  The Cellar BBS  +1 215 654 9184 

nd
From: rpowell@seq.uncwil.edu (Richard Powell)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Bauer Blades Order
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:41:59 GMT
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington

gmb0029@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:

>Want some good skates? Bauer's 1992 line is pretty damn good and the prices are
>right.  If enough people are interested, I'll start taking orders.  Wholesale +
>25%.  Hey its better than resale!! Post message Re:Bauer Blade Order

Where are you getting these blades from?
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From: sxr@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (scott.l.russell)
Subject: In-line magazines
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:33:51 GMT

I'm sure that this subject has been brought up before but ...

Are there any in-line skating magazine BESIDES "INLINE"?
What I'm looking for is something geared more for the recreational skater
than the competitor. Lots of equipment ads, reviews, tips and preferably
in the normal magazine size.


==============================================================
Scott Russell - AT&T Bell Labs Middletown, NJ
	Standard Disclamier Applies
"Man does not live by bread alone... there's always chocolate!"
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Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: jkaplenk@lucpul.it.luc.edu (Joe Kaplenk)
Subject: Re: please send me the FAQ on bearing cleaning.
Organization: Loyola University Chicago
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:45:26 GMT

In <1992Aug28.133534.28899@en.ecn.purdue.edu> cdavis@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Chris Davis) writes:


>but now what? I've heard mention of turpintine, and an ultasonic jewlry cleaner.
>(used seperatly, not in conjuction with each other..) And what sort of grease/

I assume from your message that there are problems with using turpentine with
an ultrsonic jewelry cleaner. I assume maybe a fire hazard. It sounds like
turpentine or some  other cleaner could work out good in a jewelry cleaner
followed by soap and water or  some other solvent. There was a guy that
ran Laser Skate company that had a really excellent device he designed
for cleaning bearings. He had patented it but never got around to selling it
and it used various solvents, which I think included turpentine or 
paint thinner. I posted a question several weeks ago about what 
happened to Laser Skate Company, but I didn't get any response.


-- 
Joe Kaplenk,
jkaplenk@lucpul.it.luc.edu
312-764-1212 home, fax at home 312-465-0406
From: pinch@cs.washington.edu (Ricardo Pincheira)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Speed Skating Times Subscription Info
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:29:45 GMT
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle

Speedskating Times
2910 NE 11 Ave
Pompano Beach, FL  33064
305 782 5928

"8 issues a year only $15". . ."first class delivery only $25"
"make check/mo payable to speedskating times" Just put your name and
address and phone on a piece of paper and send it to them.

Presumably you get a free pair of double lay-r socks ("the joy of sox", as
they call themselves) with your subscription, so the 15 isn't that high,
considering 1 pair of those socks runs about 7 bucks.  BTW, these socks are
great, I highly recommend them.

Ricardo
pinch@cs.washington.edu
From: mpeters@wtcp.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Michael Peters)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: "Mistake" Skates
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:30:25 GMT
Reply-To: mpeters@wtcp.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Michael Peters)
Distribution: usa
Organization: WIN Dataplus Services WTC-1 - Dayton, OH


Jawara@AppleLink.Apple.COM (Ron Drake) writes:
>In frustration, I bought a pair of Bauer ZS/5's. The difference between
>great and lousy skates is dramatic. But if you want to avoid spending over
>$200 on skates, start with a comfortable boot and upgrade the wheels and
>bearings.

If the bargain basement skates have a flimsey frame, it probably will not
be worth the money to upgrade the wheels and bearings, unless the user is
a very, very light person.  Too much flex in the frame will destroy your
performance.


>Hard wheels are in the 80-82 range. I use 78's. Softer wheels wear out
>more quickly but provide a smoother (albeit slower) ride.

That depends on the surface you are skating on.  Hard wheels are faster
on a smooth surface, but if the surface is rough, there will be too much
vibration that will effectively kill your speed.  Eddie Matzger uses a
74 durometer wheel in some races.


>The bigger the wheel, the faster you go. If you can get an inexpensive,
>comfortable boot that accepts 80 millimeter wheels, buy it. Most skates
>are equipped with 72 mm wheels and can only accept larger sizes through
>special modification.

That again, depends on terrain.  You are faster on hilly terrain usually,
on a slightly smaller wheel.  The increased speed going down hills is
more than offset by the decreased performance going up the hill.  There is
quite a debate about this, but many top racers use a 76mm-77mm wheel on
some courses.  I can see the difference going up hills with 80mm wheels.


>                        Look for sealed, lubricated bearings. Look for
>a good deal. The ABEC standard is a standard whether they're made in
>Bern or Beijing.

Sealed bearings are good for training because there is more resistance,
but they are not recommended for speed.  Perhaps you were thinking of
bearings that are simply shielded on both sides.  The sealed bearing
use a seal that actually rubs the inner race so that water and grime
cannot enter the bearing.  Most top of the line skates, do not use
the sealed bearings.
-- 
Mike Peters

Mike.Peters@wtcp.DaytonOH.NCR.COM
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Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: kiwong@zeus.calpoly.edu (Kinsley Wong)
Subject: Re: Another new skater asks...
Keywords: bearings
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 19:33:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.140108.8497@ncsu.edu> plh@ecemw6.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron) writes:
>
>All this talk about upgrading bearings has me eager to try 
>better bearings on my coolblades.  I cannot find any 
>local stores who can order the bearings.  Would you 
>please mail me the addresses and/or phone numbers of 
>any mail order outfits or magazines (InLine etc.) 
>that might have skating stuff.  Thanks...
>
>		-Pat.

Pat,	
Try Inline USA Phone number: 800 685-6806
Or Roll With It 310- 379 - 9071 (Specialized in RollerBlade brand name)
Good Luck.

Kinsley Wong.
-- 
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From: kimon@orac.holonet.net (Kimon Papahadjopulos)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Pre-race conditioning?
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:20:55 GMT
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)

dcchan@engin.umich.edu (David Chi Wei Chan) writes:

>I'm toying with the idea of entering since this is the nearest to
>me that a IISA-sanctioned race has come.  However, I'm at a loss as
>to how the categories are defined.  They've got four categories: kids,
>recreational, Cat 2, and Cat 1.  Obviously Cat 1 is way outta my league. 
>Now is Cat 2 for up and coming racers who haven't quite got up to speed,
>but are using speed skates and have been training for some time?  What's
>the real definition?

>I happen to have Cat 2 membership and although I've been skating a lot
>and training somewhat seriously, I'm at a loss to say whether I could
>even consider entering the Cat 2 races.  I'm assuming I probably have
>enough on my hands with the Recreational level as it is, but I've only
>seen races on TV so I have no real idea of the pace involved.  The
>pamphlet sez:  Recreational - recreational skaters wearing recreational
>skates.  How's that for double-talk? 8-)

>Sooooooo, do I try the Rec level and have a learning experience (read:
>get blown away 8-) or shall I hold off and train more specifically for
>racing.

Enter category 1 if you feel you will finish in 20 minutes or less.

If you are in pretty good shape, and are comfortable on your skates
(I know you are), go aghead and enter Cat 2.  The worst that will happen
is that you will come in last, and that would probably be a good experience
anyway-- there is nothing like having experiences above your level.

Most races I have been to don't split it up this way (usually a pro class
and an am class), so I don't know any set rules, but if you are going
to come in in the 20-26min or even just under 30 min range, I would think
that you will finish with a lot of other people.

>Most of the literature says to train for about 3 or 4 months
>prior to a race, doing speedplay and intervals and all that.  I doubt 
>a two week cram session will do any good, unless I'm grossly unaware of
>how well-conditioned I am. 

Do some interval wind sprints.  Lung capacity increases and decreases
very quickly with exercise.  Do a 20 minute interval session every
morning, and you will probably see results.  However, that may not
be the week point in your conditioning anyway...

Do some 10K time trials so you know what a 10K is like, and you know
what times to expect.  BTW, due to drafting and adrenaline, I find that
my 10K times on race day can be as much as 5 minutes better than my
time trials.

Kimon Papahadjopoulos
kimon@holonet.net
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: dcchan@engin.umich.edu (David Chi Wei Chan)
Subject:  Race conditioning
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 20:25:07 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

I just got a pamphlet from IISA about the Alzheimer's Assoc (Des Moines
chapter) Memory Roll race set for Sept 13 (for anyone interested, call
(515) 225-8716.

I'm toying with the idea of entering since this is the nearest to
me that a IISA-sanctioned race has come.  However, I'm at a loss as
to how the categories are defined.  They've got four categories: kids,
recreational, Cat 2, and Cat 1.  Obviously Cat 1 is way outta my league. 
Now is Cat 2 for up and coming racers who haven't quite got up to speed,
but are using speed skates and have been training for some time?  What's
the real definition?

I happen to have Cat 2 membership and although I've been skating a lot
and training somewhat seriously, I'm at a loss to say whether I could
even consider entering the Cat 2 races.  I'm assuming I probably have
enough on my hands with the Recreational level as it is, but I've only
seen races on TV so I have no real idea of the pace involved.  The
pamphlet sez:  Recreational - recreational skaters wearing recreational
skates.  How's that for double-talk? 8-)

Sooooooo, do I try the Rec level and have a learning experience (read:
get blown away 8-) or shall I hold off and train more specifically for
racing.  Most of the literature says to train for about 3 or 4 months
prior to a race, doing speedplay and intervals and all that.  I doubt 
a two week cram session will do any good, unless I'm grossly unaware of
how well-conditioned I am. 

Discussion please...8-)

-Tony Chen
 adchen@lee.cs.uiowa.edu
From: fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (steve hix)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Skates for sale
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:50:44 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: concertina

I don't know why I got them...I hardly have
time to ride a bike any more, much less pick
up a new skill.  Looks fun, though.

Anyway, everything is new, in box (or bag), unused...
for the past six months or so.

Better somebody use them than they collect dust.

Rollerblade:

    Item	     Price marked		Asking

Lightnings (11.5)	$227			$185
Knee pads (L)		$34			$25
Wrist guards (L)	$22			$15


Everything in a single lump:			$195

Hagglers not excluded.


	Steve Hix
	fiddler@concertina
	x67547
	(408) 779-8795 (eves. Sun-Thurs)




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From: scott@festival.ed.ac.uk (Scott Larnach)
Newsgroups: rec.food.drink
Subject: Re: more on Irish Whiskey
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:00:04 GMT

Dino_P._Chiesa@transarc.com writes:

>Recently, I've heard a bit of a rumor regarding the two most popular
>Irish Whiskies in the USA, Jameson's and Bushmills.  The story was
>that Jameson's is made by a "Catholic" distillery and Bushmills is a
>"Protestant" product.  

I suppose this might refer to the fact that Bushmills comes from
Northern Ireland while Jameson's comes from the Republic.

>Is this true?   Also, if so, does this justify me shooting the fellow
>next to me at the bar, if he's drinking what I'm not?

I don't think so. Trying to drink each other under the table would be an
appropriate competition, though.

>Seriously folks, what's the best Irish Whiskey?

As ever, it's a matter of taste. If it's single malts you're after,
Bushmills make the only Irish single malt available. I think it's just
called _Bushmills Malt_. It comes in the same sort of bottle as the two
Bushmills blends. It's triple distilled. Compare with Auchentoshan, a
triple distilled Scotch Lowland malt.

I'm waiting for a chance to try _Yamazaki Pure Malt Whisky_ or one of the
other Japanese single malts.

S
Newsgroups: rec.food.drink
From: kyee@caesar.mit.edu (Kenneth Yee)
Subject: FTP site for drink lists
Reply-To: kyee@mtl.mit.edu
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:27:09 GMT

Hi All,
  Can anyone out there tell me if there's an FTP site for the bartender's  
cheat sheets that show up every now and then on this group?  Is there also  
a rec.food.drink FAQ list somewhere?

			Thanks,
			  Ken
			    kyee@mtl.mit.edu
From: rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro)
Newsgroups: rec.food.drink
Subject: Re: Irish whiskey
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:45:52 GMT
Followup-To: rec.food.drink
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: kariba.bbn.com
In-reply-to: danac@morc.asd.sgi.com's message of 28 Aug 92 23:23:25 GMT

In article <p5ffncg@fido.asd.sgi.com> danac@morc.asd.sgi.com (Dana
Crom) writes: 

   In article <25320@castle.ed.ac.uk> rsk@castle.ed.ac.uk (R S
   Kingston) writes: 
   >Probably the best Irish whiskey about is the Bushmills single malt.

Is this the stuff known as "Black Bush"? 


No, Black Bush is their premium blend. The single is a different
product. I've never seen it for sale in the US.
Newsgroups: rec.food.drink
From: schweda@iastate.edu (Christopher Schweda)
Subject: Espresso In Ann Arbor?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:11:26 GMT

I have two quick questions:

a) Where is the best place in Ann Arbor, Michigan to purchase
  espresso beans? I'm not so much concerned with price; what I'm
  looking for is the best tasting espresso.

b) And where, in Ann Arbor, is the best place to get a decent cup
  of espresso? I've been hanging out at Espresso Royal on State but
  have been less than satisifed with their espresso.


Thanks in advance,
Chris Schweda
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From: keh@philabs.philips.com (Kurt E. Haase)
Subject: Pina Colada Recipe
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff, New York
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:41:26 GMT

I am looking for some Pina Colada recipes. 
I was Recently on vacation and had fresh Pina 
Coladas.  How do I make them.  I also had a BBC.
Bananas,Bailey's and Colada.  If anyone has some recipes 
for these drinks I would appreciate a copy.  I am 
going away for the weekend and would like to try them out.

Thanks in advance

Kurt.....
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345 Scarborough Road
From: chan@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Chan Benson)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:52:28 GMT
Subject: Re: Looking for a *great* coffeemaker
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: rec.food.drink

> Kee-rist, I thought I'd seen everything on the net, but now we've got
> a coffee fascist.
> 
> I'm pretty sure Curtis Jackson knows enough about coffee to make a good
> cup, but suspect that Mr. Sternlight would be horrified if he realized
> that Curtis comes from the South.  Why, they adulterate perfectly good
> coffee with *chicory* down there!  Oh, the disgrace of it all.
> 
> Remember, kiddies, you won't be able to hold your heads up in polite
> society if you don't march on down to your local coffee roaster and
> demand Jamaican Blue Mountain, grown on the proper estate.

Well, I found Mr. Sternlight's post to be a bit on the snobby side, but
I have to agree with him on the Kona. It smells awesome, but tastes 
flacid to me (seemingly no matter how strong I make it). 

I'd like to cast my vote for Sumutran, Kenyan, and Guatemalan. The first
two if you like a "bite", the latter for a mellow brew.

Incidentally, I also occasionally enjoy "Louisana Market" coffee with
chicory.

			-- Chan
From: dmc60@cd.amdahl.com (David Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.food.drink
Subject: Re: wine magazines
Date: 29 Aug 92 00:05:11 GMT
Distribution: us
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Aug27.221626.3579@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>,
zentnerl@wagner.ecn.purdue.edu (Lynn Zentner) writes:
> [...]
>I'm interested in finding out what magazines are out there (I   
>have only heard of the Wine Spectator and the Wine Enthusiast),
>what people think of them, and a phone number or address for
>their subscription dept.
>
>Please email if you can [....]
>
>Lynn Zentner
>zentnerl@ecn.purdue.edu

I'd like the same info, so maybe a post is in order.  Otherwise, 
I would appreciate email on the subject too.

-- 
David M. Clark       |   "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"
dmc60@cd.amdahl.com  |                            -Oz, the Great and Powerful
Newsgroups: rec.food.drink
From: jcarroll@ferris.cray.com (Jeff Carroll)
Subject: Re: More Mail-Order Coffee
Originator: jcarroll@ferris
Keywords: coffee, mail
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: rec.food.drink
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:41:31 CDT


In article <5551@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>, 6500derk@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Derek) writes:
> I hope I am not posting something that has already been
> posted.  In the September issue of Bon Appetit magazine
> there is a listing of mail order coffee around the U.S.
> This is on page 28.  In brief it is as follows:
> 
> (1) Boston Stoker in Dayton, OH  800-827-JAVA
> (2) Caffe Latte in Los Angeles  213 936 5213
> (3) Coffee Connection in Boston  800 284 JAVA
> (4) Gillie's Coffee Co. in New York  800 344 5526
> (5) Greffeo Coffee in Beverly Hills  800 367 9499
> (6) J. Martinez & Co. in Atlanta 800 642 5282
> (7) La Creme Coffee & Tea in Dallas 214 369 4188
> (8) Lion Coffee in Hawaii  800 338 8353
> (9) Peet's Coffee & Tea in San Francisco  800 999 2132
> (10)Starbuck's Coffe Co. in Seattle  800 445 3428
> (11)Torrefazione Italia  Seattle  800 827 2333

I used to buy mail order from Starbucks quite a bit, and from what I've
heard about their eastward expansion, people who are outside the Seattle
area might have better luck with phone-ordering than with buying their
Starbucks locally. I was always very pleased.

I have also had the pleasure of sampling La Creme, Peet's, and Torrefazione
Italia in person (unfortunately not by mail order), and can recommend
them all highly; in my opinion La Creme is the best of this bunch.

Jeff Carroll
carroll@reston.cray.com
Newsgroups: rec.food.drink