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From: asper@sbctri.sbc.com (Alan E. Asper)
Subject: Re: Rhoads on Dairy ...
Organization: Southwestern Bell Technology Resources, St.Louis, MO
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 20:28:20 GMT

In article <144588@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> k-man@diego.llnl.gov (Kevin Anderson) writes:
>I think Tony wins that battle against Moore too.  I think Rhoads was taken
>from us too early, but I bet he would have left a legacy to match Sabbaths.

I don't know much about the Sabs or Ozzy. How did Randy Rhoads die?

No flames, please. I'm just curious.

Alan
From: weezy@hale.cts.com (Weezy)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Megadeth
Date: 1 Jan 93 08:26:40 GMT
Organization: Hale Telecommunications Inc.

weaver@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Tyler Weaver) writes:

> 
> I don't know why they are off the tour now, but I know that Dec. 12 in Dallas
> was the last show Suicidal did on the Megadeth tour.  
 
Suicidal played with Megadeth here in San Diego on Dec 30th
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen)
Subject: Re: Dio and Black Sabbath (what's going on??)
Keywords: Is Dio still in the band??
Organization: Finnish University and Research Network (FUNET)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 11:13:03 GMT

In <1hapsqINNb06@smaug.West.Sun.COM> lindamo@ism.isc.com (Linda M.) writes:

>So I was told.  Vinnie Appice is helping out a friend of mine's band and
>he told him that that lineup was history.  However, I've not
>checked it out with the label.  

Well, I guess that Vinny knows what he's talking about. I really hoped
Sabbath with Dio would've done at least one album more but I guess it
won't happen. ...and I think you'll get more exact answers from the
members of the band than from the record company...

>That would make since to me, since Ozzy has headlined in the past.  I was
>responding with what Ozzy's kids' nanny (who is one of my best friends)
>told me.  She referred to it as the special guest slot, but I would 
>think that the headline slot would be more appropriate.

... you have rather interesting friends, I gotta say! :-)

-- 
Tapio Keihanen - tapio@nic.funet.fi \ / "Never look back, never turn!"
                - k135528@cc.tut.fi / \        -Ronnie James Dio, 1981
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: meniconi@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (carlo nicola meniconi)
Subject: Re: Best Bassist
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 10:59:59 GMT

Hey guys ...... and what about Truijlio way to play ?? Has anyone ever listen 
the Infectious Groves album????
I think that it's better played than any Suicidal album.  


					    NICK 
                       "Adrenalin starts to flow, you're thrashing all around
			 dancing like a maniac .... WHIPLASH  "
From: weezy@hale.cts.com (Weezy)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: 3 little pigs
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 11:21:39 PST
Organization: Hale Telecommunications Inc.

>  >> I heard a song the other day, I do not know if it's a local band or
>  >> what, cause I didnt' hear the Artist but it went something like this...
>  >>
>  >> Little pig, little pig, let me in...
>  >> not by the hair of my chinny, chin, chin
>  >>
>  >
>  > I believe the song is "Knock, Knock" by Mucky Pup.
> 
>  Not. It's 'The 3 Little Pigs' (Possibly) by Green Jello. Kinda funny, with s
>                                                      Cs.

yep, its green jello. they were handing out cd's at the comicon and
my friend picked one up.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: Best Bassist
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 21:02:38 GMT


>Gee...and I thought the point of this was to list personal opinions on best 
>bassists OVERALL, not just metal.

Of course, since it's often not clear just what is and isn't "metal", I try to
avoid the term anyway.


A few years back Jaco Pastorious was widely held to be the best bassist going.
I knew a guy in college who was very into him (he was even building a
fretless bass), and was pretty unhappy when Jaco died.

While he tended to play pseudo-jazz, he was quite good with his instrument.
-- 

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From: leranth@miller.cs.uwm.edu (Thomas)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Wishes for '93
Date: 28 Dec 1992 03:29:17 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.9.13
Summary: Death to Posers
Keywords: NOT


         Happy New Year to all the regulars I've seen around here for the
        last 5 years[ Becker, Sime, Sauron(hope I mispelled it ;), ... ]

     What I'd like to see in   93 ::  [and forget about from the last few yrs]

         1)   Riki R.  fired by  eMpTy V
               [can anybody give me the exact words Dave Mustaine used the
                  other day in  flaming  the RAchT dude ?]

         2)   Reunion of  Merciful Fate     [guess it's *gonna* happen]

         3)   All the posers go *directly* to alt.r-n-r do not pass go do not
               claim poser groups to be *metal*

         4)   MetAllicA will put out another *great* cd like  Master or Justice
                not *like* the latest [tho I did like it... ]

         5)   Another album by  Cyclone Temple
                [though this seems very-very unlikely]

         6)   Resurrection of Jimi Hendrix
                 [damn impossible]

         7)   The  *ULITMATE*  Concert ::
                               AssOck  Atheist  Baphomet  Benediction
                               Cancer  Cathedral  Cyclone Temple  Dark_Angel
                               Death  Death_Angel  Eurythmics(:-)  Forbidden
                               Fear  Godflesh  Hexenhaus  Immolation
                                Kreator  Morbid_Angel  Morgoth  
                                Malevolent_Creation  Nuclear_Assualt
                                Paradise_Lost  Suicidal_Tendencies  Slayer
                               Sepultura  Sacred_Reich  &  Kitarro(;-)

         8)    Reunion  of  Black_Flagg
                        (Best damn Punk band ever!)

         9)    Fear_of_God tour in the *&^(%$#  MIDWEST
 
        10)    The return of *the eternal flame wars*   NOT
                  (tho I do wonder what the heck happened to that "tree-dude"
                      and  the hobbit/Def_Leppard/poser_bashing dude who likes
                            to flame (isn't his co-op over?) )

     
      Enough bandwidth wasted....

         I've heard rumours of  Gods_of_Grind II    ...
                 any bands doing this?  who?????

  Tom
       make mine a MORBID VISION

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From: anarch@Apple.COM (The Anarch)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Best Bassist
Date: 23 Dec 92 22:37:37 GMT
Organization: Secular Humanists from Hell

In article <1992Dec23.185821.13940@kth.se> d91-joe@dront.nada.kth.se (Joel Norevik) writes:
>
>I think Justice is their best album, thanks owing partly to the brutal bass.
> 

   This is a joke, right?  Not Justice being a good album--I like it a lot--
but the "brutal bass."  The bass on Justice for All is totally inaudible!
The album's production is woefully uneven--the guitars sound great and the
vocals are good, but the bass is way underpowered (so is the drumming, which
is a real shame).  Of course, the bass lines just double the rhythm guitar
(by Newsted's own admission), so even if you really cranked them up it
wouldn't sound that different.  I *would* like to hear the drums turned up,
though.

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From: samborsky@skyfox
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Megadeth game??
Date: 31 DEC 92 08:06:41 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
NNTP-Posting-Host: sask.usask.ca

Hello, all:
     This Megadeth game has me perplexed too. I bought the 10" single of "Skin
O' My Teeth" and I got a whole bunch of game pieces looking like back-stage
passes and audio instructions from the Dave-meister on how to play. All I need
is the game board now. Are there only two sources of pieces for the game?
                                         Happy new year,
                                         Mark
From: ano@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Adrian Ogden)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Best Drummer
Date: 23 Dec 92 10:17:17 GMT
Organization: University of Reading

lindamo@ism.isc.com (Linda M.) writes:

>In article <CBOLTON.92Dec16225627@csd475a.erim.org> cbolton@csd475a.erim.org (Chris Bolton) writes:
>>
>>
>>Another personal favorite of mine is Terry Bozzio who has recorded/toured with
>>Jeff Beck, but I'd hardly call that metal.  I'm not a drummer, so perhaps I
>>don't know who is technically the best, but I know what sounds good to me.

Bozzio is an excellent choice. The Jeff Beck album is very good, but he's
also done a lot of work with Frank Zappa.

>>Just about all drummers I talk to seem to think Neil Peart is a god.

>Also, Bill Brufford (sp?) is good along the same lines as Peart, very technical
>and quite musical with his drumming.

Technically speaking, Bill Bruford is way ahead of Peart. Check out his
work on King Crimson's "Discipline" album, and the first album by Bill
Bruford's Earthworks. Technically excellent, and some of the most emotional
drumming I've ever heard.

Peart remains my all-time favourite though. He's a very thoughtful player,
and can be imaginative and diverse, but he knows exactly how to complement
a song rather than overshadow it or drown it. Very clever indeed.

Some others worth checking out:

Phil Collins (early Genesis, esp. "Selling England By The Pound" & "Foxtrot")
Ian Mosely (Marillion)
Mark Brzezicki (Big Country, Fish, sessions)
Simon Phillips (sessions)
Dave Weckl (Chick Corea)
Vinnie Colaiuta (Zappa, Allan Holdsworth, sessions)

and since this is alt.r-n-r.metal

Jerry Gaskill (King's X)
Scott Rockenfield (Queensryche)


<<  Adrian Ogden -- "Sic Biscuitus Disintegrat" -- ano@csres.cs.rdg.ac.uk  >>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr
From: kevinboy@microsoft.com (Kevin Boyle)
Subject: UYI Videos are available
Date: 31 Dec 92 19:33:54 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

I saw the videos in a _Wherehouse Records and Videos_ in Seattle.  $34.95 for
both.  The list of songs looked a lot like the show they played in Seattle,
although they included "Estranged".  Sorry, *no* "Coma".  

I'm gonna wait until they're available for rental.

-Kevin
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr
From: ddresp@dante.nmsu.edu (DRESP)
Subject: grn
Organization: New Mexico State University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 01:37:10 GMT


Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr
From: seppi@ruble.fml.tuwien.ac.at (YASHI)
Subject: Re: GnR Yawn
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 08:27:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.214128.18395@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@msi.com  
(Jerry Shekhel) writes:
> Here's where we agree.  "Back Off Bitch" is absolutely awesome.  How  
about
> "The Garden"?  Or maybe "14 Years"?

DEAD HORSE!! Absolutly cool song.

--
YASHI         seppi@fml.tuwien.ac.at

      Willst Du Deine Frau nicht mehr
      Dann setz sie in die Lauda Air
      und warte auf die Schubumkehr!
                                 -Alexander Bisenz-
From: mark@physchem.ox.ac.uk (Mark)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr
Subject: Re: GnR Yawn
Date: 21 Dec 92 13:56:56 GMT
Organization: Physical Chemistry Laboratory, South Parks Road, Oxford OX1 3QZ
Originator: mark@joule.pcl



> YASHI         seppi@fml.tuwien.ac.at
> 
>       Willst Du Deine Frau nicht mehr
>       Dann setz sie in die Lauda Air
>       und warte auf die Schubumkehr!
>                                  -Alexander Bisenz-


Is this a rude comment, if not, why not translate it to English.
-- 
Mark 
______________________________________________________________________________
mark@uk.ac.ox.physchem
From: mark@physchem.ox.ac.uk (Mark)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr
Subject: Re: GNR in Rio de Janeiro
Date: 21 Dec 92 13:54:54 GMT
Organization: Physical Chemistry Laboratory, South Parks Road, Oxford OX1 3QZ
Originator: mark@joule.pcl


In article <1992Dec20.184917.45817@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, 2huushack@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> 
> 	
> 	I am a foreign student from Brazil and I am going to go back
> home this break. I had an opportunnity to attend two GNR concerts, one
> back in Rio de Janeiro (Rock in Rio) and another one during the GNR &
> Metallica tour in Kansas City.
> 
> 	I've heard that GNR is going to have a tour on South America
> and they will stop by Rio. Does anybody know about this or the
> possible dates of the concerts?
> 
> 	Happy holidays!!


In my oppinion, Metallica were better than GNR in the above mentioned tour.  GNR
tried to do to many solo's and they got a bit boring after the firsy 30 or 40.
That was Orlando 1992, just after the accident that Metallica had with fire
works.  The only problem all night was when Metallica blew the fuse for the arena.


-- 
Mark 
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr
From: seppi@ruble.fml.tuwien.ac.at (YASHI)
Subject: Re: GnR Yawn
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:49:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.135656.22042@physchem.ox.ac.uk>  
mark@physchem.ox.ac.uk (Mark) writes:
> 
> 
> > YASHI         seppi@fml.tuwien.ac.at
> > 
> >       Willst Du Deine Frau nicht mehr
> >       Dann setz sie in die Lauda Air
> >       und warte auf die Schubumkehr!
> >                                  -Alexander Bisenz-
> 
> 
> Is this a rude comment, if not, why not translate it to English.
> -- 
> Mark 
>  
__________________________________________________________________________ 
____
> mark@uk.ac.ox.physchem

As I post to german-speaking groups most of the time, I have a signature  
in German. I am going to translate it, but it is not as funny as in  
German. 
It is about an Austrian Airline (the Lauda Air, possibly you know 
Niki Lauda, a former Formula 1 champion). One of the planes exploded over  
Thailand because the reverse-thrust-system was activated while still in  
the air:


--
YASHI         seppi@fml.tuwien.ac.at
      
      If you don't like your wife anymore
      get her a seat in the Lauda air
      and wait for the reverse thrust system
                                       -Alexander Bisenz-
--

I know this does absolutly not belong into this group, but I was asked  
here, so where should I have posted it? No flames please! And sorry for my  
poor English!
From: elnitsky@math.lsa.umich.edu (Serge Elnitsky)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: David Lee Roth
Date: 27 Dec 1992 21:29:14 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan, Mathematics Department, Ann Arbor
NNTP-Posting-Host: sirius.math.lsa.umich.edu

  I happened to see DLR on MTV the other day - he hosted
"Classic MTV" for about an hour, made a few jokes and in
general seemed in good spirits and good shape. (2 people
who I know *hate* Van Halen told me they thought he was
funny.) He mentioned his upcoming release - "Your Dirty
Little Mouth" - due in a couple of months. Let's wish
him well (while still praying for a reunion...)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu (Muffavore)
Subject: Another Useless Thread As Bored Metal Fans Attempt to Cope With Life
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 27 Dec 92 01:58:07 PST

>>> 1.Terry 'Geezer' Butler (Black Sabbath)

	Good bassist, blues background showing, also wrote the lyrics, no? 
which would make him doubly talented, esp. compared to funk bands, who can't
write lyrics worth writing down period.

>>> 2.Cronos (ex-Venom)

	um...like him better for his vocals...

>>> 3.Steve Harris (Iron Maden)

	go, Steve, go.  incredible sense of power in his playing, knew how to
structure a band around bass.  

>>> 5.Cliff Burton (R.I.P. ex Metallica)

	Incredible sense of the symphonic and emotion in his bass playing. 
Reportedly he was a master technicalist as well, but I enjoy early Metallica
stuff for the depth of emotion in the musicianship...for "Orion" he should be
given some form of medal posthumously...

>>
>>Shows what you know about bassists. Venom's reputation was built on
>>musican ineptitude.

	Same with some of the greatest punk bands, who seemed to have about the
same amount of musical knowledge common to your average death metal band today.

> 
> What's wrong w/ VENOM? He used to play bass really col and neat. One of the 
> best bassist. And I don't give much fuck abt PRIMUS maybe they are good musicia
> ns (sure cuz Larry is from incredible death metallers POSSESSED) but it's 
> fucking NOT metal.

	It's not metal, but it is fairly incredible musically.  I'd put it down
as a guitar-based prog-rock band that somehow ran into a funk bassist...very
good musicians.  Of course, it is completely emotionally flat, and for that
reason it bores me after a few songs, but as pure musical flailing it's
interesting.
	I'm sort of fucking sick and tired of hearing about Primus, The Red Hot
Chilipeppers, etc. in a metal newsgroup.  Is alt.pop.alternative.elite.bullshit
still around?  Flea might be a competent bassist, but he belongs to a band with
very little originality and lyrics with the IQ of your average toaster oven. 
The same goes to Primus, btw:  the lyrics attempt to be clever, but end up
cretinous.
	If you want a good bassist:  Mike Watt.  Don't know any of his earlier
stuff, but I liked his work with Dos, a band he and his SO/fellow bassist Kira
formed.  They shouldn't have put in vocal tracks; however, the bass work is
excellent.
	I happen to be a Tony Choy fan as well, and appreciate the work of
Atheist's other bassist (whose name has escaped me at this moment) -- they have
the same technical power as many of the others mentioned, but they also managed
to cram in some of the emotion and intellect that good metal (that is, not some
band called "Rotting Arm," to rip off a quote from Chuck Schuldiner) has always
had.

> 
>>1) Les Claypool

	Also one of the more annoying personalities in rock, right after Dave
"Fuck You, I'm Me" Mustaine.

Muffavore
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From: ppan@nobeltech.se (Per Andersson)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Two Sources and two compounds of rock-n-roll
Date: 2 Jan 93 19:28:49 GMT
Organization: NobelTech AB

In article <C0425I.91s@ulowell.ulowell.edu> tfragala@cs.ulowell.edu (Tom Fragala) writes:
>*** I saw Malmsteen live in Troy NY opening for Maiden and he truly sucked and
>insulted everyone there. Why you ask? GET THIS: I was in the 3rd row from
>stage and during a so-called solo I saw his hands leave the guitar for at
>least 3 seconds. He wasn't even playing. A total loser. And I wasn't the only
>one who saw it.

As everybody who has been aware of him since he worked at Musikb|rsen in
Stockholm knows:
The guy is a total asshole.
But, at the age of fifteen he could play anything Ritchie Blackmoore could,
and did so too. So what if his new, american radioplay music makes him want
to do playback. He played, and wrote great music once.
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From: ward@math.psu.edu (Brian Ward)
Subject: Re: Favorite Rock-n-Roll Video
Organization: The Bill and Ted Society of Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 20:59:30 GMT

warriors@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Dave Maycon) writes:
|Just to keep things alive on this rockin' net, lets start naming our
|favorite video (old/new).. []

(in chronological order)
Dio: A Rainbow in the Dark
Deep Purple: Perfect Strangers
and I'd have to say Slayer: Seasons in the Abyss.
From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Steve Vai/Whitesnake new Albums ?
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 20:34:25 EST
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

chapman_j@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (teddybear) writes:

> Has anybody out there heard rumours about a new album from either Steve
> Vai, and/or Whitesnake ?

Well, David Coverdale is working with Jimmy Page on an album due in 
February. Other than that, there's no new Whitesnake material in the works.
 
As for Steve Vai, I don't know what he's doing, but he must be doing 
something -- it's been about a year or more since Passion And Warfare.
 
--Don

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From: misd1sbf@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Best Bassist
Date: 22 Dec 92 12:46:10 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <ZPsas*521@birdland.UUCP>, Andy@birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio) writes:
> In article <105348@bu.edu>, Leonid Makarovsky writes:
> 
>> Les Claypol (NOT !!!!) 
>> OK here's  the list:
>> 
>> 1.Terry 'Geezer' Butler (Black Sabbath)
>> 2.Cronos (ex-Venom)
>> 3.Steve Harris (Iron Maden)
>> 4.Martin Eric Ain (ex-Celtic Frost)
>> 5.Cliff Burton (R.I.P. ex Metallica)
> 
> Shows what you know about bassists. Venom's reputation was built on
> musican ineptitude.
> 
> 1) Les Claypool
> 2) Flea
> 3) Patrick Dahlheimer (+Live+)
> 4) Geddy Lee
> 5) Billy Sheehan
> 
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   *1* MY FLAT MATE, (LOOKING TO FORM A BAND . CAN PLAY STEVE VAI,ON HIS BASS
AND CAN PLAY A HELL OF A LOT MORE. HAS PLAYED WITH LOTS OF BANDS ,eg GENEROUS
PRESS , FAT FREDYS CAT ,............! 

          WILL KEEP AN EYE ON THIS SPACE..!!