HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Cleaning the keyboard
Date: 24 Aug 92 04:08:49 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <1992Aug21.192538.8459@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> ede978e@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Robert D. Nicholson) writes:
> Can somebody explain how to clean out the gunk in my keyboard?

this worked for my new style keyboard - no guarantees
1. take off some keys by pulling straight up with needle nose pliers.
   the space bar lets you clean more but is hard to replace.
2. clean
3. replace keys

under the space bar is a thin metal rod - it needs to snap into
the two small plastic slots under the key.
the only way I could reposition it was to
1. put on the space bar,
2. take out the screws from the back
3. gently pry up the top (partly),
4. snap the rod in place using a thin screwdriver reaching in between
   the two keyboard halves
5. replace the screws, making sure the rubber seal is in place.

its nice to have a clean keyboard again.

P.S. you can also try shaking it upside down before going through all this.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ed@talus.mipt.su
Subject: Not just a dumb test...
Keywords: test, FSU, NeXT, Talus
Reply-To: ed@talus.mipt.su
Organization: Talus Corporation, Moscow
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 10:35:30 GMT


Hi there,

	as I said this is not just a dumb test. I am posting from Moscow and  
we're not even sure the post will ever make it out of the machine. If anybody  
see this, we would love to read from you as we deal with extraordinary things  
on the NeXT in quite a different way you do in the US or Europe.

Please drop us a line, 

Erik
-- 
	
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For loving, and for saying so
In whining Poetry.
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From: agnus@amylnd.stgt.sub.org (Matthias Zepf)
Subject: Newsgrazer
Reply-To: agnus@amylnd.stgt.sub.org (Matthias Zepf)
Organization: Agnus' new home, Leonberg/Warmbronn, Germany
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 05:41:07 GMT

Q1: Newsgrazer offers a "Posts in Progress" window. I never
    saw any entry inside this window--what is wrong?

Q2: Newsgrazer offers the possibility to CANCEL an article.
    When selecting this menu item, I get a panel telling me:

    Cancel failed: /usr/lib/news/inews: cannot shift
    /usr/lib/news/inews: article in
    /Users/agnus/dead.article

    Something seems to be configured incorrect--what?

Thank you for your help,

Matthias
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: Splitting TIFF Images
Reply-To: eps@cs.sfsu.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 06:49:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.193436.6340@nosc.mil> key@csc.com
	(Gerry Key) writes:
>Are there any public domain tools for the NeXT that will split the TIFF  
>file into separate pages?  

Even better: you should be able to use  tiffutil -extract  to
copy individual pages out of a multipage TIFF file.  Run
tiffutil -info  against it first.

				-=EPS=-
From: eronald@CNAM.CNAM.FR (Edmund Ronald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Prices on c.s.n.announce
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:21:09 GMT

After seeing yet another $XXX.XX on c.s.n.announce the other night,
rather than yell or reboot my cube, I posted a call for people willing
to vote to send me mail so that I can make a credible call for a vote
on this single issue: Leaving prices in, instead of emasculating all
those sexy product announcments :-)

So far, 10 people have said they want prices, and a vote, 1 wants 
no prices, one just wants to be able to vote on the matter. Also,
ye excellent moderator, todd@liveware.com sent me a message asking
me to retract my request for a vote. Todd, who does great service to
us people by moderating C.s.n.a states that I am interfering with his 
efforts to clarify the issue by his "questionnaire". He also points 
out that I am not a moderator of "the groups".

As I said previously, todd does great work. However I think that,
on this one issue, he is wrong: People want prices. I think that if told
sufficiently often, very politely, by many people, he will come around
to respecting the majority opinion. Such majority opinion can only be 
determined by a vote, and I, and 10 others, want one.

As to the fact that I am not moderator of "the groups": csnm is un-moderated,
the archetypal electronic anarchy, and I believe that anyone who stays polite
and does not oveload the available bandwith is entitled to make his opinions
heard.

So, I wish ppeople to continue sending me (eronald@cnam.cnam.fr) and todd
( todd@liveware.com) their views on a vote about prices on c.s.n.a, and
I request that todd take his views on the matter of a vote on this issue
to public debate right here on csnm.

Thank you for your patience with this huge post!

Edmund.

--Copenhagen graffito: If voting helped, they'd make it illegal     --
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From: lytras@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Lytras Apostolos)
Subject: Re: Prices on c.s.n.announce
Organization: Informatik Club Uni Zurich
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 10:22:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.033828.3270@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> dmm0t@rincewind.mech.Virginia.EDU (David Meyer) writes:
>Yes, but including prices in c.s.n.announce would _decrease_ the
>hype-to-info ratio.  Having the prices announced in a moderated group
>would restrict hype considerably; and telling us how much these
>packages cost would dramatically increase the information content of
>the posts.

Banning commercial posts from csna would decrease the hype to info ratio
also. But I recognise the need -especially for small companies- to get
the word out about their products. This does not reduce the danger,
however, that clever marketing people will abuse this medium which has a
huge readership and costs almost nothing. I'd be much happier with a
publicly accessible directory on an archive server, where product
information could be retrieved. One could, then, restrict the
announcements to just a line saying who released what and where to find
more info. I agree that information with prices is much more useful, but
that is not the *only* argument to be considered. Just because Usenet
has been abused by several people in the past does not justify this
behavior for the future.

>Personally, I don't see much point in announcing commercial packages
>unless prices are included.  

I don't see much point in supporting the advertisement of commercial
packages on Usenet at all. 

I think that it is not such an easy topic to decide upon, and I
certainly don't think this discussion is 'ridiculous', as the original
poster (the one to whom I answered initially) put it.

Have fun!
- Apostolos


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From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Placing NeXTstation Slab on its Side
Date: 1 Sep 92 02:38:14 GMT
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


In article <1992Aug31.105910.1535@stc.nato.int> koelman@stc.nato.int writes:
>
>Anyone turned a cube on its side/upside down?
>
Not much of a space-saving technique :-)
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Email: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU                                Voice: (408)335-1154
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: draphsor@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Matt Rollefson)
Subject: Re: Mail sounds?
Organization: Residential Computing, Stanford University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:01:22 GMT

In comp.sys.next.misc robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca) writes:

>Now that I have a NeXT, the closest thing to Fred Astaire on a desktop,
>and not being a good programmer, I have 2 questions:
>1. How can I make a .snd file play when mail comes in?

There's an excellent application available from the public archives
(sonata.cc.purdue.edu for one) called MailMan which will:
  - play a sound upon mail reception
  - keep track of two mailboxes, and give a visual indicator that
    you've received mail

It's free, and I find it extremely useful.

>2. What would a crontab line be to play a snd file at a certain time?

Check the man page for cron for the format of crontab lines. The
program you'd want to have it execute is /usr/bin/sndplay.

>The third question is, what is a good source for tips of this nature? I mean 
>without having to ask on the Internet, etc.

Asking the internet is a good source. Other people at your site who
deal with the same machines is another one. Just plain reading news
will often turn up lots of information. Beyond that, you can buy
various books depending on what you're interested in - there are some
good ones out there.

Rollie
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From: jgg@proforma.com (J. G. Gregory)
Subject: Re: Placing NeXTstation Slab on its Side
Organization: Pro Forma
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 00:30:36 GMT

In article <Btr2x3.EtE@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>  
tagreen@lothario.cica.indiana.edu (Todd A Green) writes:
>
>I highly doubt your bearings will go bad by turning a drive on its
>side...
>I've always heard though, that the disk should be formatted in the
>orientation that it will resting. (Though, this could just be
>folklore). 
>
>Also I'd be more worried about air flow though the slab if you turned
>it on it side.  Anyone know if the slab will still be properly cooled?
>

In a former life as a mechanical engineer who worked at packaging small  
systems, I can tell you that the small form-factor disk drive makers do not  
specify an orientation.  They cannot know how their disks are to be used, and  
the physics of what goes on inside are such that gravity is not significant.   
(That's in a static state.  In a vibrating situation, they can be very  
sensitive to the direction of vibration.)

Cooling is the big issue.  Don't put anything within 3-4 inches (8-10 cm) of a  
forced convection (i.e. fan) system inlet or outlet.  That means if you stand  
it up, don't block the vents.  I don't know how NeXT slabs are cooled.  But it  
is 99% likely they use side vents, which means you need a stand.

NeXT does a great job with mechanical packaging.  They are the best packaging  
examples I have seen in the workstation/PC market.

End of speech.
--J Gregory
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From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Subject: Re: Mail sounds?
Reply-To: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 01:31:39 GMT

William E. Grosso writes
> How is this significantly different from using a .forward file 
> to play a sound when mail arrives ?

Probably not different at all from a functional perspective.  Either way,  
a sound is played when new mail arrives.  However, with Mail.app doing the  
work, you don't need a ~/.forward file at all.  Beginners would appreciate  
this (I suspect just an open panel away from making it work).
--
-- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
-- no NeXTmail please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: lockhart@eecom.gatech.edu (John B. Lockhart)
Subject: Re: The Big Question
Summary: Assuming...
Organization: Computer Engineering Group, Georgia Tech, Atlanta, GA 30332-0250
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:16:15 GMT

In article <17e0ubINNrk8@agate.berkeley.edu> et@ocf.berkeley.edu (Eric Thompson) writes:
>They expect to have 3.0 to
>nearly everyone by the end of September/beginning of October, however.

Assuming that they've gotten everyone CDROM drives (who ordered them in
June), of course...

--John

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From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Re: Hmmm... LOTS of NeXTs for sale in misc.forsale{.computers}
Reply-To: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 18:09:48 GMT

Fredrik Nyman writes
> I've been seeing *lots* of NeXTs for sale in the misc.forsale
> newsgroups the last couple of months.  Has anyone else noticed  
this?
> 
> I wonder why so many NeXTs are being offered for sale... 
> Lack of software?  The recession?  The NRW is about to be released?
> 
> Yours for random speculation

I've noticed that too.  Many seem to be mono 25MHz slabs, while some  
are cubes (including some 030s).  Many posters state they're moving  
on to color or turbo machines.

--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
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From: ctm@ardi.com (Clifford T. Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT CD-ROM drive on a Mac
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:53:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: unmvax.1992Aug25.225338.1597
Organization: ARDI

Dear Folks,

	I sent this to Bruce a while back; apparently he didn't get
it.  Since mail didn't work, and there's probably some interest I decided to
post (I prefer correspondence via e-mail).

	--Cliff[ord T. Matthews]
	ctm@ardi.com	or	iclone!ctm@unmvax.cs.unm.edu

From ctm Fri Aug 14 18:58:00 1992
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 18:58:00 MDT
From: ctm (To: unmvax!prism.gatech.edu!ccoprcd)
To: unmvax!prism.gatech.edu!ccoprcd
Subject: NeXT CD-ROM on a Mac

Dear Bruce,

I use the Trantor CD-ROM driver and haven't had any trouble accessing
files (I haven't tried to play tunes).  It cost us $79.00 (including
an external SCSI terminator) C.O.D. from Peter J. Phethean, Ltd.
(they don't take VISA/MC).  I can't find any phone number for Peter
J. Phethean (I got the info off the net and apparently have misplaced
it), but you should be able to call around and find the Trantor
CD-ROM driver, if from nowhere else, you could try Trantor (510)
770-1400.

	--Cliff
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From: tc12@src.umd.edu ()
Subject: Supra Fax Drivers
Originator: tc12@kirchoff.src.umd.edu
Organization: Systems Research Center, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:30:48 GMT

 Does anybody know where I can find a Supra Fax Driver for
the NeXT ? Thanks for any responses. Please e-mail me at
charuhas@das.harvard.edu.

	Thomas

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From: ice@socrates.umd.edu (Fredrik Nyman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXTdimension questions
Date: 29 Aug 92 21:11:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: socrates.1992Aug29.211158.10769
Organization: University of Maryland University College

I'm thinking seriously about getting a NeXTdimension board
despite the (probably well-deserved) flames NeXT has gotten
for its handling of that board.

One question: I know on-board JPEG compression was promised but never
delivered.  Is there anything else that was omitted?  I heard that
support for closed-captioning isn't there; true or false?

Also, I'm wondering about what monitor to use.  I Will Not buy the 
(IMO rather pitifully bad) 17" Philips monitor NeXT OEMs.  The 21"
monitor is very nice, but at almost $3K educational it's quite pricey.

Y'all who have been in the same situation, what did you get?  Sony or NEC
17+" multisync monitors that can handle the NeXT's scan rate?

Thanks for any help,
Fredrik
From: rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers)
Subject: Re: Stability of Next as a company
Summary: You can buy a NeXT.  NS will live.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 23 Aug 92 19:02:25 GMT


It seems to me that even if NeXT were to 'fold' they'd just cut off
the parts least needed: all the hardware production stuff.  I'm sure
someone would happily take that plant off their hands.
I think that dev. would continue on NeXTSTeP...  That's where the
flash is in the machines is these days.

And then there's my tragic fantasy:
NeXT goes down.
Steve says FYA to the rest of the OS's - *GIVES NeXTSTeP to the FSF*

Imagine...

I think that no matter what happens, NS will live.

Kurt
From: eronald@CNAM.CNAM.FR (Edmund Ronald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: prices on c.s.n.announce -I want a vote!
Date: 27 Aug 92 08:17:22 GMT

I think prices are an integral part of product info. The moderator of 
c.s.n.a seems to differ. I'm sure he's a very nice guy, I'm almost
nice too, so I suggest we call a vote rather than have a flame war.
Hence: Please email me your opinions, and then we'll ask the moderator
to call a vote, if no one else does so first.

Edmund.
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From: draphsor@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Matt Rollefson)
Subject: Lost Home Directory Icon
Summary: Home directory no longer has "house" icon - why?
Reply-To: draphsor@deathstar.stanford.edu
Organization: Residential Computing, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 06:42:27 GMT

Recently, my home directory no longer comes up with an icon - it just
looks like a folder. It still appears on the shelf, and I still can't
drag it off. And I still get logged in with the proper home directory.
Just no icon. None for other peoples' home directories (the
double-house/neighborhood icon) either. Anyone have any ideas what
might cause this/where these icons are stored?

Rollie
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From: dmitri@StarConn.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Prices on c.s.n.announce
Date: 4 Sep 1992 11:35:51 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Sep2.164632.2008@metrosoft.com> you write:
>In article <1992Aug31.222053.25451@liveware.com> modman@liveware.com
>writes:
>> Dear Netheads,
>>
>> [ lots of stuff deleted]
>>
>> An archive server is NOT the solution for everyone, unless
>> it is set up for email response, and there  would be a
>> added time for to put the added time into maintaining such an archive.
>> I could do this, and will consider the ramifications for such a
>server...
>> I like the idea but it costs money to do create, maintain and moderate
>> such a server.
>>
Yes, it does cost time and money, but not more than $20 per month.
In most cases this fee will pay for itself with just one additional customer.
Here is a similar idea: One person maintains an archive and each vendor
pays a fraction of maintainance costs. Each vendor can post to c.s.n.a
something like this:

To get the pricing info on ProductName
Send e-mail to archive@domainname.com   /*same for all vendors*/
with the subject: info on ProductName  /*ProductName different for all
                                        vendors*/
Vendors could then change the info document by sending it
to archive@domainname.com
with the subject: change info on ProductName password


All that the maintainer has to do is to write the archive
software and pay for the e-mail account. ($15/month at starconn.com)

I am sure many vendors will subscribe to this service. As I said before,
the fee will pay for itself with one additional customer.

Dmitri
From: thorson@typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu (Bill Thorson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Release 3.0 is shipping, as of Aug 24th. (?)
Keywords: NS3.0, NeXTSTEP
Date: 1 Sep 92 06:11:34 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University -- Atmos Sci

In article <2042@ltb.ltb.bso.nl> wierda@ltb.ltb.bso.nl (Gerben Wierda) writes:
>
>The first preinstalled 3.0 NeXT was put in its box last week, if I recall
>correctly it was thursday.
>

  And I must have received it..  I just got a new turbo with 3.0 
installed today.  Haven't even set it up yet.

Bill
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From: a74k110@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Chris Lloyd)
Subject: Re: Prices on c.s.n.announce
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 01:19:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.230103.2854@ifi.unizh.ch> lytras@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Lytras Apostolos) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.193432.14085@utstat.uucp> philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>>Whatever it takes to put those prices back in should be done. This is 
>>[...]
>
>I disagree strongly. This is not what Usenet is about, we *certainly*
[...]
>
> 7. Usenet is not an advertising medium.
>
>    Because of Usenet's roots in academia, and because Usenet depends
>    so heavily on cooperation (sometimes among competitors), custom
>    dictates that advertising be kept to a minimum.  It is tolerated
>    if it is infrequent, informative, and low-hype.
>
>    The "comp.newprod" newsgroup is NOT an exception to this rule:
>    product announcements are screened by a moderator in an attempt to
>    keep the hype-to-information ratio in check.
>
>    If you must engage in flackery for your company, use the "biz"
>    hierarchy, which is explicitly "advertising-allowed", and which
>    (like all of Usenet) is carried only by those sites that want it.
>
>Why should c.s.n.a overrule a widely accepted rule like this? This just
[...]

Please explain how putting pricing information in a single post product
announcement would overrule this, eh? As if the already filtered
announcements will all of a sudden magically turn into ads because they
have pricing in them! I totally fail to see your point, 7. is being
misinterpreted IMNSHO.

If anything the pricing information makes them less hype and more informative.

la la la,
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rca@cs.brown.edu (Ronald C. Antony)
Subject: Fax modems that work... (NOW)
Summary: Need fax soon, what works?
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 20:45:55 GMT

I have been off for vaccations and could not follow the regular Fax
thread. Now since a friend of mine moved, I have no longer a fax
conveniently at hand. The solution is a fax modem, preferably a
fax/data modem. Now of course I'd like to get one of the
V.32bis/V.42bis/V.42/MNP 2-5,10... modems e.g. SupraFAX, Practical
Peripherals, etc. and not one of these old slow ones. (e.g. HSD) Since
I need the modem relatively fast, I'd buy one of the HSD thingies if
there is no other choice. But I should need to know what the state of
the affair is right now. After all HSD has their sale only until 31
August... 
Thanks for getting me up-to-date again.

Ronald

PS: If you saw a similar post of mine, then because I posted this
since I believe the first post got eaten up by our news system here...

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