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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:20:16 EDT
From:         gaynet@GALLIFREY.KENT.EDU
Subject:      GayNet Digest Volume 6 Issue 14

In this issue:
                  About the Ontario Pension Thing....
                              "ungay gay"
                        Request for information
                       LESBIAN MOMS ARE THE BEST
                        USA Weekend Poll, et al.
                 OLTL, Tuesday, Sept 1 - Friday, Sept 4
                             FAMILY VALUES
                         more sesquipedalianism
                               delete me
                           An ethics question

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From: manz@ee.ualberta.ca (Brett {Druid Queen} Manz)
Subject: Re: About the Ontario Pension Thing....
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: 	Tue, 8 Sep 1992 05:57:50 -0600

In digest <9209071817.AA00916@gallifrey.kent.edu> gaynet@GALLIFREY.KENT.EDU
 writes:

>Couldn't these people have saved themselves a lot of time and effort
>by simply allowing same-sex couples to get married?  (Granted, I don't
>know the ability of the body making the decision to do this, but you'd
>think that if they're going to go this far, they might as well just
>save themselves a lot of hassle with regard to re-interpreting and
>rewriting laws by just allowing same-sex couples to get married in the
>first place.)

>-
>Brian Evans                |     "Bad mood, bad mood...Sure I'm in a bad mood!
>bevans@carina.unm.edu      |      I haven't had sex...*EVER!*" -- Virgin Mary


This ruling could, in fact, lead to ammendments of the Canadian legal
code that will allow marraige.  At the very least common-law.  It
effectively establishes common-law stature for same-sex couples in
Ontario as it stands.

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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 08:43:57 EDT
From: Tim Pierce <twpierce@cs.amherst.edu>
Subject: "ungay gay"

An Anonymous Sender said:

> Even though I'm attracted
> to men, I'm not sure I am or want to be part of the American gay men's
> community.  The superficiality, objectification and narcissism is very
> uncomfortable for me and seems to be counter to my spiritual side with its
> respect for fellow human beings.

Your categorizing the American gay men's community with these
exceedingly broad stereotypes suggests that the superficiality is
yours.  You might consider asking yourself what "gay" means, and
decide whether you are merely extrapolating from a handful of cases to
an entire class of people.

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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 10:23 EDT
From: "Val.Meyers" <OFA82@msu.edu>
Subject: Request for information

I am currently researching for a novel set in present-day Chicago.  I would
appreciate information from anyone in the area regarding the following items:

Political climate - how do city officials react to gay/lesbian protests,
political demands, etc.?  What kind of activism is at the fore here?  How do
the police treat gay/lesbian individuals and groups?  Any incidents of
interest, pro or con?

Community life - are there specific 'areas' where we tend to congregate?
I'm especially looking for areas with heavy concentrations of "neighborhood"
gay bars and areas with leather/S&M bars.

You will not be quoted!  I'm looking for background material only.  Any
anecdotes you might want to pass along are also welcome.

Email me privately at
OFA82@MSU.BITNET or ofa82@msu.edu

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