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From: robert@sys.sweden.dg.com (Robert Claeson)
Subject: Re: AGFA, Fuji, Kodak or ?
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 08:14:06 GMT
Organization: Data General AB, Akalla, Sweden

In article <NICHOLS.92Oct6184454@osric.cs.odu.edu>, nichols@osric.cs.odu.edu (teresa nichols) writes:

> Dumb question, but are the AGFA films E-6 process?
> 
> Teresa

Yes, the Agfa films are processed in the E-6 process (Agfa calls it AP-44,
but it's the same. The film box says "AP-44/E-6").

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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: ben_wen@athena.mit.edu (Benson Wen)
Subject: Re: EOS - weatherproof?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: rec.photo
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:57:59 GMT

In article <26526@castle.ed.ac.uk> hrvoje@castle.ed.ac.uk (H Hecimovic) writes:

   Hi, does anybody has any EXPERIENCE using EOS (I have Rebel) in bad
   weather - fog, drizzle, shower?

   Hrvoje

Both my 630 and 10s have seen an hour of non-trival rain (more than a
drizzle, less than a downpour) with a 24f2.8, and the 80-200f2.8.
After an immediate drying, geez it's fine!

The 10s has been dropped a buttload of times from 3-4 ft and it's
still happy. 

Plus both of these see a lot of my shoulder pack, bouncing around all
day. 

The 10s has been in slightly cold weather, 32F, and it's still
ticking.  Light snow (sticky, not driving) for 1hr, immediate drying.

Hey, it's terrific.

-ben
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From: John.Medland@f840.n250.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Stolen Gear
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 09 Oct 92  13:47:34

The following equipment was stolen from me on OCT 7, '92:

Nikon FE camera                S/N B1787544
MD-12 motor drive              S/N 350371
Nikkor 50mm f1.2 lens          S/N 278982
Nikkor 85mm f1.4 lens          S/N 205302
Nikkor 85mm f2 lens            S/N 307452
Nikkor 105mm f2.5 lens         S/N 864023
Nikkor 28mm f2 lens            S/N 597491
Nikkor 35-200mm 3.5-4.5 lens   S/N L206974
Vivitar 285 flash              S/N 5084926
Grey Tenba Camera bag



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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: smustopo@nyx.cs.du.edu (sofjan mustopoh)
Subject: Re: empty film canister
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Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 11:59:30 GMT


   Empty canister are good for measuring Spaghetti for
  two. you might add alittle bit.
   Use it to hold matches during camping trip. Beware
   don't crush it with heavy stuff the lids might pop
    and matches might get wet.
   I know a mail order who sell pepper and salt shaker
   lids for it.
   I sometimes use it as bobber. fill it with a bit 
   water.

   that is what i can think of right now.
   Disclaimer : all of the above are not my idea i just
    forgot where i got it.

   
uskie
Muskie
From: 739chan1@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Changing films
Date: 11 Oct 92 16:05:12 EST
Summary: Changing rolls halfway.
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <c+yzf5#@rpi.edu>, sriram@escher.ipl.rpi.edu (R. Sriram) writes:
> 
> The sales person at the local camera stores told me that it's possible to
> rewind a roll (so that one can load another roll) in a Canon EOS-10S. The
> camera apparently lets a small tail to stick out so that the film can be
> reloaded. Is this true? If so, how does one reload the roll without exposing
> the already exposed films? Do I have to take it to a dark room for this?
> 
> The mechanism seems very simple and I wonder why it's not incorporated in all
> the cameras. Conceptually it seems to be the same principle as a cassette
> player.

You can use a roll of film halfway, rewind it and load it again for 
later use. But you'll have to take note of two things:
1) The exact position you loaded the film in (how much film you pull
   out to load).
2) The exact number of shots (including pre-start shots).

Let's say you have taken 15 shots (including pre-start) with a previuos roll. 
You reload it in the same position as before, then shoot 15 "blank shots" 
(Lens cap ON, shutter speed at highest, aperture smallest, prefably in 
dark place) This is to skip over your previous exposed 15 shots. Then start 
shooting your 16th photo as you normally would. If you feel nervous about
overlapping exposures, then shoot an extra "blank" or two. This info applies
mainly to manual cameras and I don't know if the automatic ones let you do 
"blank shots".

Secondly, even if you have rewound the film completely into the canister,
there is a device available in most shops for pulling it out again. But
make sure you just pull out the leader film and not the rest of your 
exposures!

__________________________________________________________________________
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X92chan3@gw.wmich.edu      \   getting killed, my dad used to say.."
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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: geoff@pmafire.inel.gov (Geoff Allen)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 18:27:11 GMT
Organization: Roller Coaster fanatic with no hope for a cure
Subject: Re: How to make a good ghost illusion?
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Organization: Roller Coaster fanatic with no hope for a cure
Keywords: Ghost, multiple exposure

gsnow@clark.edu (Gary Snow) writes:
>Pardon my question, but what do you focus on, the background behind the
>glass plate, or the reflected image from the glass plate.

If you set it up right as described in the previous article, you should
be able to get them both the same distance from the camera.  This is
because the focusing distance for the image on the glass will be the
distance from the camera to the glass, plus the distance from the glass
to the ``ghost.''  Just set things up so that distance equals the
distance to your background, or is at least withing depth-of-field
range.

Geoff

-- 
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uunet!pmafire!geoff   \  is that I have simply made more mistakes.
geoff@pmafire.inel.gov \    --George Drennan on teaching photo workshops.
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: ra1l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ravi Anupindi)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: shooting Fall colors
Date: 11 Oct 92 15:57:20 GMT
Organization: Doctoral student, Industrial Administration, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


I want to shoot Fall colors this season, probably in the Allegheny National
Forest. Was debating whether to use print film or slide film.
I have never used a slide film before. I would appreciate suggestions,
tips regarding film type, and any other hints on shooting fall colors.
Please email me any response.

Thank you.

Ravi.
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: lytle@noao.edu (Dyer Lytle  CCS)
Subject: Re: Photo-CD Recorder
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson, AZ, USA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:56:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.120545.7022@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> Robert Koch <kochb@ccmail.dayton.saic.com> writes:
>Does anyone have info n the Photo CD recorder, costs or where I can get
>info and technical info.
>EMAIL welcome.

I tried to eamil this but it didn't work so here is a post!

------------------------------------------------------------------------

The photo-CD recorder is made by Philips and Kodak.  We have a Philips
version and are useing it to write data CD's.  We bought it from Young
Minds Inc.

Here is some stuff I wrote a while ago.....

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

The contenders in the WO-CD race seem to be Kodak, Young Minds, JVC,
Sony, and Meridian.  A lot of these people (Kodak, YM, Sony, Meridian)
are using the new write once unit from Philips.  JVC has their own unit.
 
Kodak and Young Minds have systems for Unix/Sparcstations.  They all have
systems for PCs.  The Unix/Sparc versions are about $18K.  The PC setups
cost between $9K and $12K.
  
Cost usually includes the formatting software and the WO-CD unit itself.
Young Minds throws in a SCSI hard disk for setting up the data before
transfer.
   
Writing a disk takes about 1/2 hour with the Philips unit (double speed)
and 1 hour with the JVC unit.  These disks hold about 600 MB.
 
Kodak says they can sell the raw media for $25 per disk.  It is still $40
per disk from Young Minds.  These prices are expected to come down by year
end.
     
Young Minds supports the Rock Ridge extensions to the ISO 9660 format
specifications.  This allows more complex Unix file systems to be written
to the disks.
      
Contacts:
	
Chales Lakey from Young Minds at 714-335-1335
	 
Larry Zimmer from Kodak at 716-588-0490
  
Sheri Elpern from Meridian Data at 408-438-3100
  
Dean Quarnstrom from Sony at 408-372-2812
	    
Jack Moran from JVC at 714-965-2610
	     
  good luck
	       
   -Dyer Lytle



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Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Cropping slides
From: Aron Eisenpress <AFECU@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Friday, 9 Oct 1992 18:07:41 EDT
Distribution: na
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

In article <1992Oct9.165838.13659@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>, ka1gt@cbnewsm.cb.att.com
(robert.m.atkins) says:
>
>Light Impressions (800)828 6216 sell tape for this purpose. It is available
>in silver or black. Price (72yds) runs from $9.95 (1/4" silver) to $21.12
>(3/4" black). It seems to be a 3M product (Polyester Film Tape #850).

They have another tape, 3M Slide Masking Tape #425, which seems suitable too.
It's $5.50 for 1/4" (100 ft.) or $11.00 for 1/2".
From: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: film for 35mm portraiture?
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:52:44 GMT
Reply-To: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Annapolis, MD

In rec.photo, ray@anaconda.cis.ohio-state.edu (william c ray) writes:
>(BTW Mark, if there ever exists another photo-swap, I'd absolutely
>love to see some of your work... From your postings I'd like to think
>that it would be spectacular.)
>
>Will Ray
>ray@cis.ohio-state.edu
>wcr@rsch.oclc.org

I thing we had a previous interaction on the net.  Your the guy who
was the photographer at his own wedding.  What was your new bride donig
at the time.  If you are interested in seeing my work, make   an appoint-
ment and I'll show it.  It is true that price doesn't always indicate
quality.  But there's nothing wrong with giving really complete service
and charging for it as well.  Many of the so-called cheap photographers
wind up charging lots in the end, ence all the extras are ordered.
I personally believe in up-front pricing, with no add ons.


   /|/| /||)|/  /~ /\| |\|)[~|)/~   |   Everyone's entitled to MY opinion.
  / | |/ ||\|\  \_|\/|_|/|)[_|\\_|  |      goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil
========Imagination is more important than knowledge. - Albert Einstein=======
From: liang@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Chuck Liang)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Enlarger lens boards (question)
Date: 8 Oct 92 06:08:43 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


  When I bought my enlarger (used), I was given two lens boards (into
which you screw the lens).  One of the is simply flat, the other one,
however, is recessed inward, bring the lens closer to the negative.  I
do mainly 35mm enlargements with a 50mm EL-Nikkor.  I've been using
the recessed lens board with no problems.  But does anyone know what
differences the two lens boards will make?  Is one of them
suppossed to be used with 75mm or 80mm lenses and the other one with
50mm lenses?
From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Dunco & deVere
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:15:31 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

mjerosc@erenj.bitnet (Michael Jerosch-Herold) wrote:
> Can somebody on the net please let me know the addresses or contacts
> for Dunco and deVere.  Both are manufacturers of enlargers.  I am
> interested in their headquarter address or the name and address of
> their US representative.  Anybody know where to get spare parts for
> these enlargers?

DeVere (a British firm) went bust a few months ago, with a slew of
poison-pen letters alleging invoice fraud.  Nobody's picked up the
bits yet.

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: Robert Koch <kochb@ccmail.dayton.saic.com>
Subject: Photo-CD Recorder
Organization: SAIC
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Does anyone have info n the Photo CD recorder, costs or where I can get
info and technical info.
EMAIL welcome.
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: pd@sics.se (Per Danielsson)
Subject: Why is Canon called Canon (was Re: How do you pronounce Leica? [Actually, Nikon])
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science
	<SCHOOLER.92Oct1174052@turing.apollo.hp.com>
	<1992Oct2.173600.1835@craycos.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 00:13:40 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.173600.1835@craycos.com> sog@craycos.com (Steve Gombosi) writes:

>In article <SCHOOLER.92Oct1174052@turing.apollo.hp.com> schooler@apollo.hp.com (Richard Schooler) writes:
>>
>>  And yet another pet peeve, the spelling of 'Canon'.  Even in
>>Shutterbug Ads one often sees 'Cannon'!  Don't people even look at the
>>equipment they're selling?

>Of course, the company was actually named after Kannon, the Bodhisattva
>of Compassion (honest!), so perhaps they're just honoring the intentions
>of its founder ;-).

Actually it is "Kwanon", but the name changed to "Canon" the very same
year it was formed (1935). (And it's not a misspelling by a Japanese
not fluent in english; it's really supposed to be "Canon" - it has
nothing to fo wilth guns).
The first camera was the Kwanon with a KasyaPa 50mm/f3.5 lens, and the
second model was the Canon Original with a Nikkor(!) 50mm/f4.5 lens.
--
Per Danielsson				pd@sics.se
Swedish Institute of Computer Science, PO Box 1263, S-164 28 KISTA, SWEDEN
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: smustopo@nyx.cs.du.edu (sofjan mustopoh)
Subject: Re: What are anemic sunsets?
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 12:12:21 GMT



    My experience tell me Mount Pinatubo eruption 
 Makes sunsets glow even redder.
 
 Muskie
Xs

Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au (Paul Repacholi)
Subject: Re: Canon Speedlight 420EZ?
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 15:13:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.004326.9105@walter.bellcore.com>, hsong@ardour.bellcore.com (G. Hugh Song) writes:
> Can someone spell out the difference between Canon Speedlights
> 420EZ and 430EZ?   One obvous difference seems to be the guide
> number.  One is 42meter and the other is 43 meter.   So they are about 
> equal.  Is there any feature missing in 420EZ?
> 

Te 430 has the exteral connector and can do exposure compensation, and
a wider range of strobe speeds. Don't have a 420 here at the moment, will
check if needed...

~Paul
From: toddc@spot.tv.tek.com (Todd Carlson)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Pentax PZ-10 v.s. EOS Rebel II
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:30:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: tvnews.1992Oct14.213050.26125
Organization: Tektronix, Inc.  Beaverton, Oregon

In article <1992Oct7.014405.26781@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Jimmy.Tung@dartmouth.edu (Jimmy Tung) writes:
>In article <1ash26INNq9o@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu>,
>yyh@osustat.mps.ohio-state.edu (Yu-Yun Ho) writes:
>
>|> I joined this news group about 3 weeks ago when I bought my first
>SLR
>|> camera. It's a Pentax PZ-10 with a fully automatic 28mm f3.5 - 80mm
>f4.7 
>|> zoom lens. 
>|> I've seen a lot of disscussion on Nikon and Canon SLR's,
>|> but never have I seen any body talked about Pentax on the net,
>|> which made me loose confidence in my new camera thinking that
>perhaps
>|> I had made a wrong decision. 
>|> ... [stuff deleted]
>
>I wouldn't worry too much about all the bandwidth about non-Pentax
>cameras.  Several cliches exist about blaming the tools and not the
>workman.  Granted, really poor quality equipment will lead to wasted
>efforts, but there's alot more to taking photos than getting the newest
>stuff or the "best" brands.
> etc...

Okay, how about this one... I am looking into my first REAL 35mm that will
actually let me play with shutter speed, f-stop, etc., and I have  narrowed
it down to the PZ-10 and the Rebel II.  The local shop has offered packages
with each that include 5 year warranties, but there is a $40.00 price
difference.

Right now I am leaning towards the Canon, but I would welcome any opinions
from anyone with experience with either.  (I have even been looking into
future needs...lenses, options, etc.)

                                  Thanks,

                                          Todd

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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: rodney@cs.UAlberta.CA (Rodney Gitzel)
Subject: Safelight for TMAX film
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 18:54:06 GMT


Yo.

Someone told me once that there is a safelight filter
 that can be used during the development of TMAX film.
 He said it was green, but couldn't remember the exact
 colour number.

Does anyone know about this?  I would like to use a safelight
 in some experiments with extreme push-processing.

Thanks.

Rodney Gitzel
From: hship@sw.stratus.com (Howard Ship)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Bulk Loader Recommendation
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:08:19 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

I'm thinking about switching over to a bulk loader.  I remember distantly that there
are a couple of competing designs (not to mention manufacturers) and that one
of them was better (less likely to scratch the film).

I have a darkroom, but I am looking for a type that requires the least fumbling in
the dark.

Also, recommendations on cannisters and such would be helpful.  My camera is
a Maxxum 7000 which always rewinds into the cartridge (no leader).  I've always
had good luck with Ilford and will probably end up using Delta.

Is bulk film a significantly better deal?  Is it of equal quality as buying by
the roll?

Please reply to me.  I will summarize answers and repost.  Thanks.

-- 
"I can't believe I had the Anti!"
Howard_Ship@vos.stratus.com
From: bjs@RUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Barry Sherman)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Barnbaum and Sexton like the same rock?
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:01:42 GMT
Reply-To: bjs@RUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Barry Sherman)
Followup-To: rec.photo
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

donl mathis wrote:

>I made what I consider to be one of my better images on the beach at
>Point Lobos; it's a moderately large rock bed with an incredible
>arrangement of rows of 5" wide tidepools in it, separated by 5" of
>rock.  Later, I bought a book of Edward Weston's photographs, and found
>the same rock.  My photograph is better, of course -- he seems to have
>missed the obviously superior composition.  ;)
>
>However, it's still his rock; in fact, it's his beach.  In fact, it's
>his Point.

But it would seem that if donl found the superior composition then he won
the point.  Perhaps we should say that it's donl's Point but Edward Weston's
game, set and match?  :-)

Barry

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From: kbb0@harvey.gte.com (Kevin Burke)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: film for 35mm portraiture?
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:34:52 GMT

In article <26290@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg) writes:
>
> [ other stuff deleted ] 
>
> BTW, the original poster mentioned how he did better that a pro who
> charged $600.  Personally, I charge $2,000 - $3,000 per wedding - and
> I get it with no hassle.  It is my opinion that cheap wedding photography
>
> [ ... ]

Out of curiousity, how does your $2k - $3k typically break down in terms of
materials, time, lab fees, profit, etc?

Thanks, Kevin
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: poa@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Peter O. Adeleke)
Subject: illfl:Howr?
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:02:36 GMT


I'd like to learn how to use fill flash in my pictures.  I just tried
shooting with the regular flash setting in daylight, but it appears that
most of the shots were over exposed.

I'd appreciate suggestions on how to do it successfully using a method
that is _easy_ to remember.

Thanks.  Responses by email or net will be accepted.

-- P. Adeleke
From: cheu@venus.its.uci.edu (Kelvin Cheu)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Fie on Nye-kon
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:20:41 GMT
Reply-To: cheu@venus.its.uci.edu (Kelvin Cheu)
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <1992Oct12.180429.26962@eng.umd.edu>, jeff@eng.umd.edu (Jeffrey Frey) writes:
|> I visited the Nikon factory in Oi, near Tokyo, a couple of weeks ago on businessunrelated to cameras.  Oi is where Nikon SLRs, as well as some semiconductor
|> industry products, are made.  One of the engineers I was talking to 
|> consistently talked to me of Nye-kon this, Nye-kon that, etc., and I asked
|> him why he used this pronunciation when the Japanese pronunciation,
|> according to the usually used katakana, would be "Nee-kon".  He said yes, 
|> Nee-kon was the correct pronunciation, but some many foreigners used
|> Nye-kon that they have just fallen into step.
|> 
|> So, if your name card has your name in Japanese on the back, pronounce it
|> Nee-kon.  
|> 
|> Jeff
|> 

Well, things are normally pronounced differently in US.  When I was
back in SE Asia, Nikon was pronounced as Nee-Kon.  I took me a while
to switch to Nye-Kon, otherwise the US salesman would not know what
I was talking about.  In the same way, the made in Korea Hyundai is
called "Hon-Day", instead of "Hue-dai" in Asia.  What is correct ?

Kelvin
Newsgroups: rec.photo