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From: bcr@cernapo.cern.ch (Bill Riemers)
Subject: Re: INSTALLING LINUX
Organization: CERN, European Research Center for High Energy Physics
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:17:27 GMT

>>>>> On 12 Jan 93 08:36:22 EST, andor@inode.com said:


	andor> Open up your PC and swap the cables from the A to the B drive. Your 1.44 will
	andor> now be a bootable A drive, and the 1.2 will be a nonbootable B drive

This may work for some drives, but often both are the same cable with identical connectors.
In this case, you'll find you have to change the jumper-pins instead.  Normally this is
the jumper nearest the connector labeled 1 2 3 4.  (Panasonic sometimes uses a switch
instead.)

                                           Bill
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From: gdm@shrdlu.kwnet.on.ca (Giles D Malet)
Subject: Re: libc.so.4.2 Caveats!
Organization: 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:30:03 GMT

In article <MNL.93Jan2002919@mnlsun.dtro.e-technik.th-darmstadt.de>
	mnl@dtro.e-technik.th-darmstadt.de (Michael N. Lipp) writes:
>
>2) sed doesn't work any more. I have recompiled it using FSF sed-1.13.tar.Z.
>   Strange enough, although I removed the sed-local regex.o getop.o and
>   getopt1.o (thus using the functions in libc.so.4.2) and compiled with
>   -O2, my new sed is about twice as large as the old one. Was it not
>   FSF sed-1.13 in the SLS distribution?

You have already been told how to reduce the program size (-N).

I grabbed the SLS sed a couple of weeks ago and found problems
with it.  It is (was) version 1.09, and the problems turned out to be
in libc.so.4.2.  If you look in <regex.h> you will see a flag called
RE_NO_BK_PARENS, and it appears the state of this flag has been toggled
between 4.1 and 4.2.  This causes sed to fail, as a `group' is now
defined by (...) rather than \(...\).

H.J.Lu appears to indicate this is a change in the original library, not
just the Linux version. Somewhat stupid, that. Now you have to compile
sed (and I presume other programs too) with their included regex code.

So what are libraries for, anyway ?

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From: manaster@yu1.yu.edu (Chaim Manaster)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Linux v. Coherent: Comments
Date: 5 Jan 93 11:47:00 GMT
Organization: Yeshiva University

I  am a DOS person just getting introduced to UNIX and liking it! I
 would like to put some version of UNIX on my 486/DX along with DOS
 and OS/2 that live there now. (They don't necessarily need to
 co-exist if thats not possible).

 I don't want to pay $1,000 or more for the system as I would have
 to for most commercial versions.
 However I can manage the $99 for Coherent. So the free versus the
 $99 in Coherent versus Linux is not an issue as far as I am
 concerned. What I wouls appreciate is  a comparison of the two
 systems, features, tools, ease of use, compatibility, support etc.
 In particular the ability to use standard unix stuff intended for
 the commercial UNIX's found all over the Net.
 How do the two match up? The technical prowess of the two should
 be one of the main focal points of the comparison.


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From: stern@amath.washington.edu (L.G. "Ted" Stern)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: [SLS] How do you load SLS from a DOS partition?
Keywords: SLS, DOS
Date: 4 Jan 93 18:54:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1ia14eINNal8
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Washington, Applied Mathematics, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: orcas.amath.washington.edu

I recall seeing several weeks ago something about loading SLS from a DOS
partition.  Was this question ever answered on c.o.l?

Also, if there *has* been some answer to a question on a newsgroup, how
would one go about searching for the relevant posting, and where?
(say, for comp.os.linux in particular, and any newsgroup, in general)

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From: tjrc1@cus.cam.ac.uk (T.J.R. Cutts)
Subject: Problems with tar and olvwm
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:31:01 GMT

Following my posting last week, several people pointed me to the binary olvwm
distribution olvwmbin_GCC2.2.2.tar.Z (or something similar) which I downloaded,
and attempted to build as told by the README.linux file.  However, ld barfed
and gave me:

ld: nonexternal relocation code invalid in olvwm.a

I'm not a Unix/C programmer so could somebody please explain what's going on?

Secondly I also tried to download the binaries of Interviews doc 3.1.  I found
that tar refused to unpack the decompressed IVdoc3.1.tar file, after creating
the interviews directory tree it created a ~700k doc file and then said:

tar: Skipping to next file header...
tar: only read 10153 bytes from archive IVdoc3.1.tar

and gave up.  The same line (tar xvfh IVdoc3.1.tar) worked perfectly on the Sun
at work.  What am I doing wrong?  Or have I unwittingly discovered a bug in
tar?

Configuration:

SLS .98p5, kernel 0.99pl2 with soundcard driver compiled in.
486/33, 64k cache, 8Mb RAM, 93Mb Linux partition (Extended FS).

Thanks for any and all help.

Tim.
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From: andrewc@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew J. Cosgriff !)
Subject: Re: X & telnet via modem - no SLIP.
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 08:22:06 GMT

aneubach@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Andreas Neubacher) writes:

>For those of you who can't wait for the Linux SLIP port, here's an
>alternative which I've been using successfully for 2 weeks now:
>	Get the 'ka9qbin.taz' package from your favorite linux server,
>modify the 'startup.net' file such that it fits your setup, connect via
>modem (e.g. using kermit) to some terminal server or Unix host supporting slip, 
>and then start the 'net' program from the 'ka9q' package.
>	This gives you a SLIP connection over which you can do ftp & telnet
>(from inside 'net' - you don't need the ftp & telnet binaries!). Even X
>works! (I'm typing this messge from my machine at home in a window of an
>'emacs' running on our Institute's host.)

Akternatively, the new version of Term (0.99) appeared on sunsite
This is very nice !
You log into uni via xc or whatever you normally use, then run term at each end
(you have to compile it at each end...) - at your end, you run it like you'd run
rz, etc...

Then you can switch to another VC and do a trsh and log in multiple times !
You can log in the other way too !
You can even redirect ports on either end to ports on the other machines !

Lotsa fun, but not with a slow modem :(
(it'll do data compression if your modem doesn't already)

Enjoy !

Cos !
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From: Sten M. Drescher <smd@hrt216.brooks.af.mil>
Subject: Re: X & telnet via modem - no SLIP.
Organization: AL/HRTI, Brooks AFB
	<andrewc.726222126@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au>
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:58:20 GMT

	Is there remote end of either of these methods (ka9q or term)
that can run from a non-privleged account in VMS?  Term was having
trouble with my connection through telnet (although that may be gone in
0.99 - I haven't had a chance to compile it yet).  We don't have a C
compiler on the vax, so we'd need binaries for any C program.
	Sten
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From: dhliu@solar.csie.ntu.edu.tw (Der-Hua Liu)
Subject: CMU's Andrew multimedia System on Linux ??
Organization: NTUTaiwan
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 07:40:17 GMT

   CMU's Andrew System ( not the AFS) is a great multimedia System under X11.
There is a multimedia editor called 'ez', which you can put
text(variable fonts), pictures, animation, sound and math formulas, etc in a
single file.  It also has libraries to help programmers write their own system.
It would be a great job to port such system to Linux.
(including Sound Blaster card support, if possible)

Is anyone doing this great job ?    I don't have enough disk space to do it.
For those insterested in Andrew Sys, you can get it from anonymous ftp

     emsworth.andrew.cmu.edu

with ready-to-run binaries on  SunOS 4.1.1(Sun4), AIX 3.1, hp700_80, pmax_ul4

    in /cdrom                (Sun's tar file size is 23599143)


Sources are available in the dir
      
      /split


Edward D.H. Liu
dhliu@solar.csie.ntu.edu.tw
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From: bryanw@rahul.net (Bryan Woodworth)
Subject: how to set temp variable?
Organization: a2i network
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 11:35:59 GMT

I am sorry if this is a faq, but I can't find out the problem..

I compiled cjpeg and djpeg, and they run fine, but they complain about
running out of temp space. I've watched the /tmp subdirs while the programs
run and can't see them writing temp files.. . -- help?  The exact statement
is, "Out of temp space -- no more drive space?"  Not exactly, but close.

I am almost out of room on my root partition, so I setup another partition
and tried linking the temp dir there with the temp on the normal
partition..  I'm linking /tmp.  Perhaps I'm doing it wrong?  Could someone
tell me in email please..

thanks.

-- 
Bryan Woodworth <bryanw@rahul.net>
From: Ulf.Bartelt@p2.f3420.n241.z2.fidonet.org (Ulf Bartelt)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: [Q] SLIP, KA9Q, SunOs 4.1.1
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 09:21:30 -0800

Hi Brian!

Wednesday January 06 1993 08:53, Brian E. Gallew an All:

 BEG> Question:  Where did you get the SLIP patches for 0.99p2?  The
last
 BEG> SLIP patch set I saw was for 0.97p5.

Where can I get these patches (FTP ?) ? I only have SLIP for 0.98p3 and
running a newer  kernel, this is too bad :-(((((

Bye,
     Ulf

 * Origin: DMSWRL205E no files in your reader (2:241/3420.2)
From: Craig.McCracken@f19.n375.z1.fidonet.org (Craig McCracken)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: SLS Install Prob
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 14:58:00 -0800

While installing the SLS series ( 0.98pl5) I noticed the following
errors:

Disk B5

installing: Smail......: File exists
tar: could not create symlink to /usr/bin/smail

Disk C2

installing P2C......tar: Unexpectd EOF on archive file
tar: Child died with signal 11 ( Core dumped )

Can anyone help me with this ?

Craig

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From: Elie.Labeca@f420.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org (Elie Labeca)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: 386 BSD
Date: 3 Jan 93 01:11:00 GMT

Hello,

 I'm looking for the 386 BSD, I believe it is free. How can I get it?
I would also like to know how much place does it takes on a hard disk,
how many diskettes, where to get it. And more specifications about it.

Thank you very much, I really appreciate. ('ve got tell ya, I love Unix!)

- Elie
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From: injoh@rz.tu-clausthal.de (Jochen Hein)
Subject: Re: Zmodem for 0.99?
Organization: TU Clausthal, Germany
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:07:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.233418.16665@serval.net.wsu.edu> hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu) writes:

>They work, but at the end of transmission. They may have some garbage. 

This problem can be fixed by patch a "#" at the beginning of the
finish-message... I have done it in the sources, just try it with bpe
in the binaries...

Gru"s
    Jochen

Reply to HEIN@VAX.IN.TU-CLAUSTHAL.DE

Linux: The best text-adventure of the world!
From: oreillym@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Michael O'Reilly)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: TERM076
Date: 7 Jan 1993 06:25:41 GMT
Organization: Home
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Edward Deering Boykin (ccasted@prism.gatech.EDU) wrote:
: I have downloaded term076 and compiled it but I think I am confused
                    ^^^^^^^ woah!!! You want to get a much later
version. I should point out that term is regarded as being in 'beta'
stages. term 0.9.9l is the latest released. Subscribe to the TERM
mailing list if interested or join the #Linux channel on irc.

: about what  
: is does. Does it simulate a slip connection between two unix boxes
: over a modem? 

It tries to provide much the same functionality without slip's
overhead, and while running entirely in user space. We don't have SLIP
dialins here, and the line noise on my modem is appalling, so.. term
resulted. 

: If I use xcomm does it make my machine an x-terminal allowing me to run an x 
: program from the machine I am logged on to by modem and have it appear on my
: screen?

It can do this, yes. This is pretty much a side effect. What it's
original intention was was to provide multiplexed error-corrected
compressed streams over the single modem. The various clients to allow
remote logins, and remote X, and local logins etc, and just side
effects. 

: If all of this is correct what doi I have to do to the remote
: machine to get it 
: acting right?

Well, this one is a little difficult to explain given that you have
given no details of your problem. :) I think 099l will cure a lot of
your problems, and if that doesn't, mail me.

: Thanks
No problems.

: BOYKIN,EDWARD D    Wanna-be Experimental Aircraft Builder Extraordinare
Michael

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From: benjie@quack.sac.ca.us (Android)
Subject: Need Help
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
Date: 7 Jan 1993 05:08:58 UTC

Hello Everyone.  I need some help on the following subjects
1.  How do you set the modem up ?  When I try to use the Kermit, and
entered "dial", it told me to "set modem" first.  I did just that and it
still telling me to "set modem".  What should I do?
2.  Printer.  I can't send a file to a HP Deskjet by entering print.
When I do "print" it told me that "killick file not found" or similar.
I could establish my own killick file, but then, when I use "print
filename", the printer will get the entry of "killick" instead of
filename.  In addition, the printing format isn't correct.  The Deskjet
printed in a single line instead in pages.

Any suggestions are welcome.
Thanks

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From: ludwig@wefunk.rent.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Some Linux Questions
Date: 7 Jan 93 01:54:18 GMT
Organization: WEFUNK, The Mothership Connection - Franklin Park, NJ

I have some Linux Questions . . .

First, let me thank those who made SLS possible.  Without it, I would
surely die :-)

1)  I'm having problems with tcp.  I've set my system up ala the docs
provided.  When I ping myself, everything works cool.  When I ping others
on my network, I can't get 'em.  I'm pinging by address, not name.  Here's
the weird part.  If I remove the tap on my ethernet card, pinging my system
from my system still shows no packet loss.  What is happening?

2)  Does anyone know where I can get the GNU news?  I don't like the rnews
stuff in the Emacs, and I'm looking for the *REAL* news for emacs.

3)  How about Smalltalk?

Danke.

Mitch Ludwig
ludwig@wefunk.rent.com
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From: Philip Machanick <philip@concave.cs.wits.ac.za>
Subject: Re: A discipline for packages
X-Xxdate: Mon, 4 Jan 93 15:00:27 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, Wits University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d16
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:12:32 GMT

In article <FOX.93Jan2225646@graphics.nyu.edu> David Fox, fox@cs.nyu.edu
writes:
>system.  The nice thing about symbolic links is that they
>can tell you where they are pointing, whereas all you know about
>a hard link is how many other names it has.  To de-install the
>foo package you just remove every symbolic link anywhere that
>points to /packages/foo/* and then rm -rf /packages/foo/*.  If
>you have a dangling link into /packages/foo/* you just get the
>foo distribution and extract the missing file.  If it is not there,

How about the opposite: install the file in the target directory,
and keep a sym link to it in /packages/xxx ? That way, if you
de-install, you can remove the file from the place where it would
usually be found, and keep the sym link as documentation of what to
get back if you need to reinstall it. De-installing then involves
following all sym links to rm the actual files.
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From: nnhut@bnr.ca (Nhut Nguyen)
Subject: Re: Ctl-Atl-Del and Linux 0.99 patchlevel 2.
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:23:32 GMT

pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald) writes:

>Uh, Oh.  This just twigged a memory.  Wasn't there a reported incompatibility
>between the OPTi chipset and some SCSI ctls (AH 1542B??)?

I have heard about some incompatibility problems with OPTi chipsets. However,
in this case I have excluded SCSI support. Furthermore, I have had no problem
until 0.99pl1. Strange.

>Peter

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From: edmonds@cs.ubc.ca (Brian Edmonds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: big-endian linux cross-compiler?
Date: 11 Jan 1993 13:49:27 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cobra.cs.ubc.ca

I would like to build a cross-compiler for linux on an HP720.  I asked 
HJ, but he cross-compiles on a DECstation (little-endian) and 
recommended I ask here.  Mainly I need a list of all the pieces, how to 
build them, and where then to put them.  I so far have acquired the 
following: 

gcc-2.3.3.tar.Z
gas-1.38.1.tar.Z
binutils-1.9l.tar.Z

I have created the directory /usr/local/i386-linux to install things 
under, but am having trouble getting the basic utilites like ld to 
compile properly.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: hank@informatik.uni-essen.de (Hendrik G. Seliger)
Subject: Compiled transfig
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 08:46:10 GMT
Organization: Uni-Essen
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I guess it's been done before, I just never saw a note: the
transfig package (needed e.g. for xfig to produce exported
figures, and to use the TeX version of the lilo-manual) compiles
out of the box. The only thing posing problems might be that the
IMakefile uses libXaw.so.VERSION-NUMBER etc. The trailing .VERSION-NUMBER
has to be removed for the Linux-libraries (or just make a link).
Otherwise it compiles w/o trouble. I didn't bother to ake any diffs
for the Makefiles, so I cant post'em.

Hendrik.

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From: bmyers@shyguy.lonestar.org (bob myers)
Subject: EFS and ESDI > 512Mb ???
Organization: 3-B Technology
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 02:59:29 GMT

I recently posted requesting information on using Linux on 340/677 mb esdi
drives.  I'd like to thank everyone who responded about it.  However,
I think that I might need to make something a little bit clearer, and
see if anyone can respond...  

There is a barrier that one hits, when trying to use disk drives that
are greater than 512MB.  The UltraStor 12F card that I use can get
around some of the limitations, but then it's up to the operating system
for the rest of the support.

I did have a problem with inode sizing; making the 677 mb drive a single
unix partition left me with playing with the mkfs parameters for the
677 mb drive, eventually winding up with having a max of 1253152 blocks, for
supporting 211744 files max.  the parameters for the drive are as follows
from my /etc/partitions file:

disk01:
     heads = 15, cyls = 1630, sectors = 54, bpsec = 512
     vtocsec = 29, altsec = 30, boot = "/etc/boot", device = "/dev/rdsk/1s0",

I'm not sure if the EFS system of Linux would support a single large file
structure being greater than 512Mb with ESDI.

Please let me know if such is or is not the case.

thanks again
  
 

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From: jaggy@purplet.demon.co.uk (Mike Jagdis)
Subject: SysV Init Work with 0.99?
Organization: FidoNet node 2:252/305 - The Purple Tentacle, Reading
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:10:00 +0000

* In message <1993Jan10.172857.14520@camaro.uucp>, Tim Foley said:

TF> Does anyone have Miquels SYS V Init working with 0.99p1?  I
TF> just got it
TF> and it looks great, I've been looking for a real INIT for a
TF> while now.

If you want a real SYSV init you want more than just an init :-). Take a 
look at bootsys3.taz...

                                Mike  
 
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From: andrewc@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew J. Cosgriff !)
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: linux FAQ in LaTeX
Keywords: Linux FAQ, LaTeX
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 08:15:46 GMT

paula@bronte.boeing.com (Paul Allen) writes:

I think I'd have to agree to an extent...
the FAQs should always be available in ASCII, for obvious reasons...

As far as info files go, well, I like them - it's better for distributing the whole manual
than to use ?roff format - can you imagine the gcc info files as a single ?roff file ?
eurgh !

Anyway, to help people out a bit in case they have all these info files and not emacs, I'll
put the stand-alone info reader up at sunsite (there's also xinfo at export.lcs.mit.edu if
you prefer to use X - it compiles no hassles), which came with TeX somewhere along the line.

Enjoy !

Cos !
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