HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Subject: Response to Caucasian/Indian problem
Reply-To: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 12:49:07 GMT

This is in responce to someone who seemed to take exception thst I, a
European American, showed an interest in Indian girls.

I'm sorry I can't quote it, I lost it in an attempt to reply.

I think there is nothing wrong in intercultural or interracial
relations as such.  If Indian men have a problem attracting Indian
women, then they (the women) should have the opportinity to look
outside.  For me, I very much prefer Asians girls to Europeans.
Should a difference in race or culture preclude me from trying to find
an Asian (including Indian) girl I may want.

This gentleman's article smacks of racisim to suggest that any one
'race' should not have the freedom to choose from the great variety of
young women (or men for the women) that this world offers.

If we were to return to the era where there was very little
interracial and intercultural contact, this world would be a much
duller place.

comments?  flames?  I only ask that it remain polite as this group
tends to be, unlike others.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: 
Expires: 
Reply-To: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Keywords: 


-- 
 Michael Le Houllier           *  John 3:16  * Nov 12, 1991 - Dili      
 (m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu.us) *  Remember: June 4, 1989 - Beijing
 Go BLUE JAYS   1-0   at Tigers Monday (4-2), Wednesday and Thursday
 End the strike.  Get back on the ice.  Get the playoffs going.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rc05@gte.com (Ramesh Chandak)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Food for thought?(Indian Men and Feminism)
Date: 11 Apr 92 17:06:09 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories Incorporated, Waltham MA

>>> Some Food for thought here :
Have you thought about food first ?

- Stevorama
From: mahesh@vu-vlsi.vill.edu (MAHESH BAGADE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Need Baby Names/Budget Details
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:15:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: vu-vlsi.1992Apr6.181526.23239
Organization: Villanova University

Hi Netters,

1) Can somebody email me the list of names for the new borns. I need for my
   friend who is expecting to become a father in another week. Please email
   me as soon as possible.

2) Can somebody also mail me the "Budget Details"


PLEASE EMAIL ME TO THE FOLLOWING ADDRESS:

UUCP:     iuvax.cs.indiana.edu!deaes!c23mkb
Internet: c23mkb%deaes.uucp@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu

Thank you
From: unaik@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Uday R. Naik)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Information required
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:54:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: bronze.1992Apr14.115455.13445
Followup-To: unaik@copper.ucs.indiana.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington IN.

hi,
	I was wondering if someone knows the labour certification
process (after H-1) in detail. Has it changed from the old rules.
Also if a company that employs me had advertised for the job in major
newspapers and interviewed other candidates before selecting me, do
they have to do this again during the labour cert process. Also what
is the time that the ad has to run during the process. Any advice is
welcomed at unaik@copper.ucs.indiana.edu. 
	uday



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						Indiana University
						Bloomington 
Hi ! I am not this guy's .signature , no no... , where  did you ever
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mpg8842@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Madhav  Parthasarathy)
Subject: Re: Bride wanted
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 21:48:48 GMT

  Hi,

    I fully agree with Hitesh.  There's absolutely nothing wrong with matrimonials.
  It's just another way for people to meet one another.  And for a person to express
  his/her particular preferences in his spouse-to-be is their right.  What's wrong
  about wanting a well-educated or fair or good-looking spouse?  To all the people who
  have been denouncing this as discrimination, let me ask you a question.  Would you
  be willing to marry an ugly person (arranged or otherwise)?  I know I wouldn't.  
  If your answer is `yes', maybe you and I are looking for different things from
  your partner (i guess you guys can tell what I'm looking for :-) )  Anyway, your 
  priorities are your personal problem and has nothing to do with discrimination. 
   
     Maybe all the people who oppose matrimonials have not had much trouble meeting
  people of the other sex.  But you guys don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure
  out that others may not have had much luck and need matrimonials to meet people.
  So if the matrimonials bother you, please hit 'n' and move on. Quit whining.

 -Madhavan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kuntal@algol.cs.umbc.edu (survivor)
Subject: in search of some native phrases ... (american)
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Computer Science Department
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 03:15:26 GMT


hi all !

i found some phrases used by americans to be markedly effective in day_to_day
conversation.
eg.
	- your mileage may vary
	- i have been there before 
	- back_of_the_envelope calculations
	- i wouldn't want to be in your shoes

i am in search for some more. wud greatly any additions to this.

thanks for any efforts taken.

kuntal
From: v999rkzd@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (V999RKZD.SIGNATURE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: City Of Joy ........... review
Keywords: movie   review
Date: 14 Apr 92 00:32:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41



One viewer's review.

City of Joy
^^^^ ^^ ^^^
Patrick Swayze, Om Puri, Shabana Azmi.
Based on the book by Dominique Lapiere.

	Reaity, the Portrayal of.
	Hope, the triumh of.

	That is what this movie about life  in a Calcutta slum is about, 
essentially. Plus the way an American Doctor from Houston gets charmed 
into aiding a helpless society. While some who read the book felt that 
the movie was a little different from it, others who would rather have
the story served to them visually, in a 2.25 hours chunk found nothing amiss.

	But for the first five mins or so, the entire movie has been shot
in Calcutta, and is probably more real than what Indians (or Culcattans for
that matter) can stomach. Cushioned by the thousands of miles that separates
reality from us, and cocooned by Univ campuses, one is almost unwilling to
let the movie puncture all that comfort. It is difficult to choose
between Swayze and Puri as the films' hero. With  her composed manner 
Shabana Azmi does a lot to add credibility to the movie's portrayal of
a village wife adjusting to city life. The casting crew must have spent
a good deal of time picking the actors for Hasari Lal's (Om Puri) children.

	While the fact that even 80-year old Bihari villagers talk among
themselves in fluent English is unsettling and even irks in the beginning,
one gets used to it and it seems almost natural by the time the movie
ends.
	The reluctance of the city people, egged by the Godfather to accept
and embrace lepers into their society is highlighted. Again, the casting
of people residing in the leper colony is done well. The scene where the
Doctor helps deliver a leprosy patients' child is 'too realistic', if 
anything can be called that.

	Women's libbers and others will definitely 
be moved by the way his daughter's dowry preys on the hand-rickshaw puller
Hasari's mind, and when they see him save rupee after hard-earned rupee just to 
be able to meet the required dowry.

	This movie is sure to do a lot of good for slums, at least by 
forcing people to acknowledge ( and maybe even help) unluckier lives
 than theirs.

	The movie has a lot of really interesting, and even funny scenes. To 
take a huge and powerful plot such as this, and make it into a commercial
film requires special talent. The crew of City Of Joy posseses that talent.
The portrayal of the targeted segment of Indian populations' life come 
through clearly.

	And so does the portrayal of hope.

Ramprasad T N.



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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ramkumar@cs.stanford.edu (G. Ramkumar)
Subject: An Indian Dinner at Stanford !!
Reply-To: ramkumar@cs.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford, CS Dept.
Distribution: ba
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:02:56


*******************************************************************************
			STANFORD INDIA ASSOCIATION

				Announces

 		 SUNDAY SUPPER AT THE INTERNATIONAL CENTER.

			A Traditional Indian Dinner.
*******************************************************************************

		ON: Sunday, April 19 at 6.30PM.

		AT: Bechtel International Center, Stanford

		COST:   For Students and Spouses -  $5.00
			For Others               -  $6.00

	(Tickets are available with Lynn Kroner at the International Center)


		WE NEED VOLUNTEERS TO HELP COOK!! 

Please respond by either replying to this message or by calling us.
Thanks!!

Avijit     Ramkumar   Radha      Krishnan
329-9339   329-9339   497-5676   497-7121
E-mail: sia-presidents@cs.stanford.edu

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: skd@cacs.usl.edu (Suresh Damodaran Kamal)
Subject: KEYWORDS: TO PREVENT SPLINTERING SCI: A PLEA
Organization: The Center for Advanced Computer Studies, USL
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 16:07:59 GMT


PROPOSAL FOR USING KEYWORDS in POSTINGS IN SCI TO KEEP IT TOGETHER
------------------------------------------------------------------

	This is not a new idea; using keywords in title  to reflect
the nature of a paragraph or section is a time tested one. Even in
SCI I have seen postings proposing this. 

	But then why is the dire need for this NOW?

	1. SCI has enormous number of postings, average around
150/day. These cover 
	a. cultures, (movies, literature, language, history etc.)
	b. conveniences, (travel, visa, looking for, test etc.)
	c. propaganda & issues (LTTE, minorities, racism etc.)  

	2. Reading up each of the titles is cumbersome, forcing
	one to adapt a "weed at random" strategy, eventually
	missing some very useful/interesting articles.

	3. Besides, the subcultures in India tend to talk about 
	about creating new news groups such as soc.culture.tamil,
	soc.culture.aryan, soc.culture.kv, soc.culture.arrangedmarriage
	etc.
	
	This scenario, if ever becomes real, will take a lot of
	fun out of reading SCI, since the benefit of learning
	from totally fresh/radical viewpoint of looking at the same 
	problem, issue, cultures will be lost. Personally I will
	miss the variety of Gujju, Bong, Mallu, Surd, Ajit.. jokes,
	and also discovering the surprising radically opposite 
	attitudes of of men and women on SCI on issues.

	4. The benefit of talk on conveniences (1.b above) is
	for all those who are Indian citizens, or their derivatives.
	So when SCI is divided, do not expect that somebody will
	take pains to cross post in all the sub.soc.newsgroups.
	There you miss a vast store house of day-today wisdom!    


So, it is proposed that keywords be used infront of every posting:

EG., 	TAMIL: Sujata's Novels
	JOKES: Ajit ka phata: update
	LOOKING FOR: Somebody last seen in a grocery store in Virar
	TEST: That I was ignorant till now.
	MATING: Arranged vis Love matings
	VISA: Metamorphisms of F1 (Long)

Now, random use of keywords will lead to confusion. So there is
a need to establish a carefully thought out STANDARDISED system of 
keywords.

A netiquette may be created by someone.

This is a serious plea; lets see whether we can keep together
a falling mammoth by a small ordering technique!!	
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From: kamdar@granite.ma30.bull.com (Jayesh Kamdar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: WHAT DOES THIS HINDI/URDU WORD MEAN.....
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:23:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: mips2.1992Apr9.132352.6077
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Inc.

In article <16745@plains.NoDak.edu> ksrao@POWER.EEE.NDSU.NODAK.EDU writes:
>In article <167C712E93.A0K5719@tamvm1.tamu.edu>, A0K5719@tamvm1.tamu.edu writes:
><chhot se jeevan me kitna pyaar karoon, pee loon HAALA
>< 
><yam (as in yamraj) aaega saqi bankar, saath liye kaali HAALA
>< 
><mere adharon par ho antim, vastu na ganga jal HAALA
>< 
><Does anybody know the meaning??
>< 
><anil
>     In all contexts it should mean poison a shortened form for 'haalahal'
>which is a Sanskrit word for poison, that which is drunk y Shiva but not
>swallowed.
>
>
>K. Sankara Rao                          e-mail ksrao@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu
>
>Department of Electrical Engineering
>North Dakota State University
>Fargo, ND 58105  USA
>
>Phone:  (701)237-7217  (o)
>        (701)235-9912  (h)


	Hi guys,

	In 'MADHUSHAALA' (Bar) , Mr. Bachhan talks about wine (sura, 
	sharaab, daru etc.) and HAALA means wine. I have it on cassett, 
	sung by Manna Day. He writes about how one loves SHARAAB in this
	poem very nicely.

	Jayesh Kamdar
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:13974 rec.music.indian.classical:851
From: sridhar@enuxva.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Gopher access to SCI and RMIC stuff....
Date: 10 Apr 92 21:12:44 GMT
Reply-To: sridhar@enuxha.eas.asu.edu
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Arizona State University

If there is a need for:

SCI's FAQ.
CD list compiled by Dinesh Prabhu.
Several articles from RMIC (stored with novice knowledge)
Email stuff.
Much more.

telnet to consultant.micro.umn.edu and login as gopher.

Follow the menu as it winds through 2 machines.

Other Gopher and Information Servers/
	|
	v
North America/
	|
	v
St. Olaf gopher server/
	|
	v
Databases/
	|
	v
Omni-Cultural-Academic-Resource/
	|
	v
Society-Culture-Religion/
	|
	v
Variety of Info about Stuff on India/



Pl. refrain from using during normal working hrs. (We are -0300 EST/
-0700 GMT). Feedback welcomed and strongly urged. Please don't
retrieve if you already have it. It just denies others the privileges
of Internet access.


If you have a gopher client or interested in one. pl. let me know.
Interested persons can ftp to boombox.micro.umn.edu. If you have
access to the client, your access will be far faster. 

If you have any suggestions to place such stuff anywhere higher in
this menu structure I would like to hear from you (after the Databases
Menu which is on nic.stolaf.edu).

Sridhar.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ST402420@brownvm.brown.edu
Subject: Re: ***** ???????????? ***************
Organization: Brown University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 02:10:47 GMT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------

>   There is a tree.
>  Nobody observes the tree.
>  Does the tree exist?
>  There is an electron.
>  Nobody observes it.
>  Does electron exist?

>>I was reading, one dreary noon,
>>About the Schrodinger's cat,
>>About Quantum Ojectivity
>>and strange things like that.
>> Will complete this later. Anybody care to fill in?
And, from Spike Milligan:
     I thought I saw Jesus
     Riding on a tram,
     I asked him, `Are you Jesus'?
     He said, `Yes, I am.'

     VA

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu)
Subject: Looking For Mr. Raghuram Krovidi, At Either Texas A&M, Or Austin.
Organization: California State University, Chico
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1992 06:02:40 GMT

This is a message for Mr. Raghuram Krovidi, in either the  Univ of 
Texas at A & M, or Univ of Texas at Austin.

He came from India in the Fall of 1989,  and  before that he  was
working in Systems Research Group in Hyderabad. He graduated from
REC, Warangal.

His friend Mr. Raghuram Kalavacharla, is looking for him.

If anyone can provide any information about Mr. Raghuram Krovidi,
kindly send email to either of the following addresses;

"ragkal@ragkal.auto-trol.com" 
 or
"pkalavac@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu".

Regards, 
Vivek.

-- 
vivek@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu),
Research Assistant, Department Of Computer Science, 
School Of Engineering, Computer Science And Technology,
California State University, Chico, California.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 15:45:40 EDT
From: Deepak Srivastava <DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Politics of Infiltration: Rebuttal

In Swapan Dasgupta's article only one Bangaladeshi political
organization has been named as the main culprit for the
harresment of Hindus there; Jamat-e-Islami.

What is the status of Jamat-e-Islami in Bangala Desh politics?
Jamat-e-Islami is the distant fourth in the spectrum of Bangla-
Deshi political scene. Even in the local Bangla-Deshi media
Jamat is rated as a fringe fundamentalist organization. But
recently they are in lot of trouble. Their supposedly chief Golam
Azam was publicly (literally in a public place) was tried for
allegation of crimes against the people of Bangladesh and was
sentenced to death. The main opposition party, Awami League (with
about 30% support in parliament), conducted this trial in absentia
to put pressure on Begum Khaleda Jia's government to arrest Golam
Azam and pu him to real trials for his role in helping pakistani
army in 1972 independence movement. In the final onslaught of
Pakistani Army on Dhaka, Golam Azam actively suported the army
and helped them in killing (by identifying) many bangala deshi
youth opposed to pakistani rule.

Incidently Bagum Zia's government depend upon Jamat-e-Islami
for survival in the parliament. And Jamat is trying to use
this leverage in to wriggle out of this no win situation.
As a patent reply to the attack on their political existence
by the Awami League, the Jamat is vigorously trying to label the
Awami League as "India's Agents". The Awami League, which claim
to be of secular in nature, is on a strong wicket in this case.
Because many Bangala Deshis do believe that Golam Azam did play
a role in massacre of many Dhaka University students. And by
naming Golam Azam as its leader, during Zia-ur-Rahman's time,
Jamat may have revealed its clandestine Pakistani connections
which many Bangala Deshi's do not like.

So, you see, even in Bangla Desh there is a struggle between
the so called centerist organizations and the fundamentalist
Jamat party. Now to say that what Jamat does or say is the
view of all the muslims in Bangla Desh is the same as what VHP/
Bajrang Dal say is the view of all the Hindus in India.

regards..            Deepak


My information about the Bangala Deshi politics is based on
materials reported in Indian media. If there are any factual
errors noticed by any Bangala Deshi please do respond on the
net.
From: karnik@cs.umn.edu (Neeran Mohan Karnik)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: soc.culture.tamil
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:41:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr15.154153.25347
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

In <Mdv0ArW00UhW00yZhs@andrew.cmu.edu> rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh) writes:

>I would bet that there are more Tamils sitting around the world than
>anyone else from India/Indian subcontinent groups. People who are
>opposed to the formation of soc.culture.tamil should just look around.
>I'm studying in Pittsburg, USA. From what I've seen so far, Tamils are
>the biggest junk of any group from India. From Malaysia to Canada, there
             ^^^^
	     Huh ??? ;->

>are tens of thousands of Tamil descendants and first generation
>immigrants living. We should commence our efforts to create this forum
>without further delay.


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Neeran  Karnik - Dept. of Computer Science, University of Minnesota
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From: acsossc@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Samir Chaudhari)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: america loves indians
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:58:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr7.25633@usl.edu>, edo2877@usl.edu (Ott Edward D) writes...
>

>God bless the IITs without them how could american industry compete.
>so remember tell all your brothers,sisters,cousins and school friends that
>as soon as they graduate to come to america get thier masters and start 
>working for america.
> 

	Fortunately/unfortunately John Paul Anderson, and his fellow mates in 
Delhi, Madras, and Calcutta do not think so. "We do not need brains. ..we can 
take care of that ourselves" says "He".


>-- 
>BONES HEAL                   Edward D. Ott

-S