From: ntran@danang.East.Sun.COM (Nhon Van Tran - Sun USOPS IR)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: [HIS] The famine in 1945
Date: 15 Sep 1992 23:10:05 GMT
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In article 8222@m.cs.uiuc.edu, drk@melodian.cs.uiuc.edu (Dave Kohr) writes:
> In article <18qeqeINN2og@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> ntran@danang.East.Sun.COM()
> writes:
> >According to Dr. Hu+ng, communists took advantage the famine and turmoil
> >to strengthen position and expand their influence.     
> >
> >  Nhon Van Tran                       Email: Nhon.Tran@East.Sun.COM
> >  Sun Microystsems, Inc.                  ntran@danang.East.Sun.COM
> 
> Fine, and by similar reasoning one may claim that the Roosevelt
> administration "took advantage" of Pearl Harbor to rally the US toward
> fighting the Axis powers, despite the strong isolationist sentiment
> throughout the country.  So what's your point?
> -- 
> Dave Kohr     CS Graduate Student     Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
> Work: 3244 DCL, (217)333-6561  Home: (217)359-9350  E-mail: drk@cs.uiuc.edu
>                    "One either has none or not enough."


Dear Mr. Dave Kohr and SCVers,
 
 I tried to point out that like other hundreds times in 62 years
history of Vietnam communist party, Vietnam communist leaders again 
are inhumanly opportunitists.

 It took them 15 years from the founding days of Indochinese communist
party in 1930 to 1945 to raise to a number of less than 5000 members; 
however party recruited as many as 30000 members in only two years 
between 1945 and 1946. Besides other reasons, taking advantage of the 
famine 45 must be an important reason. 

 It's fine or not depending on which side of front you are standing. 
However comparing between Ho-Chi-Minh and Roosevelts that you did
regarding to the way they manupulated events to win the support indicated
that your knowledge of Ho-Chi-Minh and his party is very limited. Some 
people looked at Ho-Chi-Minh with the image of a  great hero in the   
Vietnamese poeple's struggle for independence and freedoom but 
ingnored a true Ho-Chi-Minh as a brutal dictator who did whatever he 
could for international communism. 

 You might have not known there were many our great and gifted patriots
never had a chance to serve their country because they were assassinated 
by Ho-Chi-Minh when they were very young. You might have not heard about 
Ly-Dong-A, Truoong-Tu-Anh, Khai-Hung, Hoang-Dao and etc... 

 You might have not learnt about the land reform in North Vietnam during
years between 1958 to 1960 in which thounsands Vietnameses were executed
like animals for a crime of owning their land, some were  as small
as one acre. This event was so terrified that the central committee of 
Lao-dong party  had to dump Truong-Chinh from the position of secretary 
general to save Ho-Chi-Minh image and fabricated a funny story that 
"Uncle Ho openly cried for those mistakes" ? Whose mistakes and who
was "Uncle Ho" if not a Ho-Chi-Minh who were presiding over party and state
at the time ? Ho-Chi-Minh himself must be primary criminals for the 
deaths of thousands Vietnameses. 

 You might not learnt enough about Mau-Than event in 1968 in which more 
than 3000 Vameses were buried in mass graves around Hue city. Medical
examines after bodies discovered showed that many of them had be buried 
alive. Do not forget, Ho-Chi-Minh did not "go to see Karl Marx and Vladimir
Lenin" until September 1969. So, who were responsible for those killings 
other than himself as the chief of party, of the state and of the armed 
forces. 

 And many, many more "fine" details around Ho-Chi-Minh will  made public
once our country is liberated from communism. We surely welcome you to 
access them .

 Until that time, our discussion should be stopped here. 

Regards,

Nhon Van Tran