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From: gina@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Gina Cherry)
Subject: Gays Meet with Archbishop in Denver
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:10:46 GMT

Gay Catholics met with Denver Archbishop J. Francis Stafford
yesterday, asking him to understand the concerns and affirm the rights
of gay people.

Dugan McGinley, spokesman for the Denver chapter of Dignity, the gay
and lesbian Catholic organization, said the meeting was "very cordial"
and Stafford listened, but made no commitments. He said it was the
group's first official meeting with Stafford.

Bob Feeney, spokesman for the archdiocese, said the archbishop would
not comment on the meeting because he considered it a private matter.

McGinley and Terry Mischel gave Stafford letters from 130 gay
Catholics, all noting the concerns of gays. They asked him to reject
last July's Vatican statement which labeled homosexuality "an
intrinsic disorder" and said discrimination is "for the common good of
society" when it allows people to ban gays from housing, teaching and
coaching jobs, and adopting children.

McGinley said Dignity members requested the meeting several weeks ago,
because they wanted to talk to Stafford before next week's semiannual
meeting of the nation's Catholic bishops in Washington. The meeting
was scheduled before last week's approval of Amendment 2, which
repealed anti-bias laws that protected gays in several Colorado
communities and prohibited similar laws in the future.

McGinley said there are thousands of gay Catholics in Colorado and
about 135 in the local chapter of Dignity. Local Dignity members hold
their own weekly mass at Capitol Heights Presbyterian Church.

Dignity U.S.A. will stage a candle-light vigil Monday near the Omni
Shoreham Hotel in Washington where the bishops will be meeting.

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From: RMVLUG_4@FLINT.MINES.COLORADO.EDU
Subject: Coalition of Labor Union Women Moves Convention
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:53:19 GMT


The following was stolen from a news group that a friend subscribes to:


        WASHINGTON (UPI) -- The Coalition of Labor Union Women has notified
Colorado Gov. Roy Romer it is moving its 1993 convention -- and the
approximately 1,000 to 1,500 participants -- from Denver because of the
state's anti-gay discrimination referendum.
        ``Not only does the integrity and principles of CLUW demand that we
take this action, we could not in good conscience contribute as much
revenue as our convention generates to a state that has rejected what we
consider are basic human rights,'' said the union's president, Joyce
Miller, in a letter to Romer.
        Miller said the union is opposed to policies that discriminate on the
basis of race, religion, national origin, or sexual orientation.
        She said the convention usually draws between 1,000 and 1,500
participants and generates as much as $3 million in revenue.

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From: doherty@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Michael Doherty)
Subject: Calif. judge kills law that banned rights for gays
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:20:19 GMT

>From the Rocky Mountain Post 11/17/92
Reprinted without permission

Calif. judge kills law that banned rights for gays

Associated Press

MARTINEZ, Calif. -- A judge Monday threw out a measure
banning special legal protections for homosexuals that had
passed in the Oakland suburb of Concord by 42 votes in
1991.
     The ruling came four days after a lawsuit was filed
against a similar measure that just passed in Colorado.
     "This is a great encouragement to the case in
Colorado," said American Civil Liberties Union attorney
Matt Coles. "One or two more victories showing that the
courts will not tolerate this and we may be able to stop
this initiative madness."
     In elections last month, voters in Oregon turned down
Measure 9, which would have declared homosexuality
perverse. But voters in Colorado approved a measure barring
state or local governments from enacting gay-rights
protections. That law, which rescinded ordinances in
Denver, Boulder and Aspen, is being challenged by the ACLU
and others.

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From: gina@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Gina Cherry)
Subject: Union calls for boycott of Colorado
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:43:00 GMT

From the Daily Camera, Nov. 14, 1992

The nation's second-largest teacher's union has called for a boycott
of Colorado over a new constitutional amendment prohibiting gay-rights
laws.

The 30,000-member United Teachers-Los Angeles also plans to ask the
National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers
to join the boycott, said Burce Williams of the NEA's Gay and Lesbian
Caucus.

Amendment 2 is "no less than the denial of the full and equal
protection of the laws" to gays and lesbians, said UTLA President
Helen Bernstein.

The NEA will discuss the boycott at an executive committee meeting in
December, Williams said.

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From: RMVLUG_4@FLINT.MINES.COLORADO.EDU (FRANK BERNDT)
Subject: Boycott info needed
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Originator: gina@rintintin.Colorado.EDU
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:04:25 GMT

Business Week Journal Magazine is attempting to contact individuals that 
have changed plans, regarding travel to Colorado, because of amendment 2.

Please send names along with a phone number (or place where they can be 
reached) and was this an individual, family or group who's plans were 
altered.

Send this information to: RMVLUG_4@FLINT.MINES.COLORADO.EDU

These names will be sent directly to Business Week and will not be used for 
any other purpose. This information is vital to show that the boycott is 
being taken seriously and is not "preposterous" as Kevin Tebedo, 
chairperson of Coloradans for Family Values (CFV), replied when asked about 
the boycott.

Thanks
Frank
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From: gina@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Gina Cherry)
Subject: Amendment 2 may prevent gays from getting insurance
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Date: 18 Nov 1992 15:20:59 -0700 (MST)

--From the Daily Camera (Boulder) Nov. 18, 1992
Reprinted without permission

(AP-Denver) - Officials say Amendment 2 may nullify state laws preventing
insurance companies from black-listing gays.
   A strict reading of the constitutional amendment indicates insurance
companies could once again deny policies to homosexuals and cancel coverage
of HIV-positive clients, officials said.
   "It's a huge issue.  No one has paid any attention to how Amendment 2
impacts that," said Pat Steadman, a lawyer with the American Federation of
State, County and Municipal Employees who also consults with gay-rights backers.
   Amendment 2 prohibits state or local governments from enacting or enforcing
laws that protect gays from discrimination.  The most commonly mentioned effect 
of Amendment 2's passage has been the repeal of gay-rights ordinances in Denver,
Boulder, and Aspen.
   Legal observers are wondering whether the amendment also overturns state
statutes and insurance division rules protecting gays from discrimination in
obtaining medical or life insurance.
   One state law bars insurers from asking clients for thier sexual orientation 
or otherwise trying to discern it.
   Before states enacted such laws, insurers often refused to cover gays
because of their increased risk of contracting HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.
   A different rule also prohibits insurers from dropping existing clients who 
test positive for HIV or are diagnosed with AIDS or related illnesses.
   "All other issues aside, insurance is still the wild card out there," said
Cindy Cornelius, spokeswoman for the Colorado AIDS Project.
   Jake Gaffigan, a spokesman for the state insurance division, warned against
any companies using Amendment 2 as an excuse to dump gay clients.  The division
is studying the amendment's effect on state law and has requested an opinon
from the attorney general.


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From: WAND_M@gold.colorado.edu
Subject: Cyclists Sever Ties to Amend 2 Backer
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Originator: gina@rintintin.Colorado.EDU
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:03:27 GMT

CYCLISTS SEVER TIES TO BACKER OF AMEND. 2
By Jim Gibney, special to The Denver Post
Thursday, November 19, 1992

COLORADO SPRINGS - The largest bicycle club in Colorado Springs has dropped 
Will Perkins' auto dealership and its $2,000 annual sponsorship because of 
Perkins' backing for Amendment 2.

Perkins heads Colorado for Family Values which sponsored the amendment.  It 
repeals laws protecting gays from discrimination in Denver, Boulder and Aspen 
and prevents similar state or local laws in the future.

Mark Slezak, president of Rainbow Racing Bicycling Club with 67 members, said 
yesterday club riders were getting hassled for wearing shirts with the Perkins 
Chrysler-Plymouth and Alfa Romeo.

"We don't want to get caught up in the whole controversy," Slezak said.

Some Rainbow Racing club members plan to compete in a race next month in 
Golden, wearing the Perkins jerseys with a red circle and slash across the name 
and logo, according to John Crandall, owner of Old Town Bike Shop and a sponsor 
of the club.

Races won't be dropped
The club sponsors several annual bike races in the area and none of them will 
be dropped de to the loss of Perkins' $2,000 sponsorship, he added.

At a club meeting the day after Amendment 2 passed Nov. 3, there was a nearly 
unanimous vote of 21 members present to drop Perkins as a sponsor.  Nineteen 
members voted to drop Perkins' sponsorship and two members abstained, Slezak 
said.

And, he added, "I'd have quit the club if they didn't."

Crandall yesterday said he would have pulled his sponsorship of Rainbow Racing 
if Perkins' tie hadn't been rejected by the club.

Amendment called contrary
Crandall said Amendment 2 runs contrary to the spirit of Colorado to "live and 
let live."  Perkins' secretary said he is out of the city until Dec. 1.

Tom Perkins, president of the dealership and Will Perkins' son, said yesterday, 
"We've enjoyed our relationship in the past with the bicycle club, but this has 
been their choice.  I'm sorry they feel the way they do."

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From: guetzlaf@gravity.cray.com (Cathy Guetzlaff)
Subject: Re: Colorado action
Followup-To: guetzlaf@gravity.cray.com (Cathy Guetzlaff)
Originator: gina@tigger
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 15:27:07 CST

Thanks for posting the information about Amendment Two.  I'm in an ongoing
discussion with a Fort Collins resident about the Amendment and need a bit
of information to counter something he said.  He has stated that some of
the fundamentalist churches have been the target of harrassment ever since
the amendment passed.  I'd like to know if this is true and whether the
gay groups are denouncing/supporting such acts.  If you'd have a minute to
send me information about this, I'd really appreciate it!

Keep up the good work in Colorado!  I'm sending what financial support I can
to aid the cause.
- --

 Cathy Guetzlaff      Cray Research, Inc.      guetzlaf@cray.com


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From: RMVLUG_4@FLINT.MINES.COLORADO.EDU
Subject: Amendment 2 Fallout
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:24:13 GMT

Rocky Mountain News, THurs, Nov 19,1992 pg 10

Amendment 2 fallout

Colorado Springs' largest bicycle racing team has dropped a car dealership 
as a sponsor because of the dealships support of Amendment2, which bans 
laws giving protective status to homosexuals. Members of the Rainbow Racing 
Bicycling Club Inc. plan to compete in a race next month in Golden with a 
big red circle and slash through the name of what was once the clubs 
biggest sponsor - Perkins Chrysler-Plymouth and Alfa Romeo - printed on 
their jerseys. The team decided to drop the dealership because its owner, 
Will Perkins, is head of Colorado for Family Values, which sponsored 
Amendment 2.
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From: charles@phx.mcd.mot.com (Charles Wolff)
Subject: Deadheads Against Discrimination
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 10:44:13 -0700 (MST)

The Grateful Dead will be playing in Denver on 12/2-3.  The
following is from the rec.music.gdead newsgroup by way of
The Well.  David Gans, who posted this, is a well-known
Deadhead and I think one of the people who runs the Well.

-------
The Well Deadheads have come up with a way of protesting the anti-gay
initiative that passed in Colorado.  (I call that the missing tooth in
the grin that broke out across the country November 3 :^)

A few months ago, in anticipation of going to Oregon during the campaign
to block their vicious anti-gay initiative, we came up with a sticker and
t-shirt design: the "stealie" with a pink triangle where the lightning
bolt used to be and "Ain't no time to hate" across the top.  Well, Veneta
was cancelled and the Oregon initiative failed, but now we find ourselves
heading for Colorado with a strong sense of outrage.

So we've decided to buy a billboard at or near McNichols.  It will feature
the "Ain't no time to hate" logo and the words   UNDO 2   plus the names
of the sponsoring organizations (including "Deadheads Against
Discrimination,"
the ad-hoc entity that's handling the fundraising for this billboard).


Here's the collection address for contributions to the
Denver billboard project:

	Deadheads Against Discrimination
	2888 Bluff Street, Suite 496
	Boulder, CO 80301


Make checks payable to Deadheads Against Discrimination, or D.A.D.

Any money left over will be given to one or more of the organizations
in Colorado that are fighting to prevent this dreadful measure from being
implemented (or to get it repealed or declared unconstitutional).

We've got several professional PR people on our team and we're expecting
to get national coverage for this.


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From: GARY SMITH <SMITH_G@gold.colorado.edu>
Subject: Cancellations continue at Colo. hotels, resorts
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Originator: gina@rintintin.Colorado.EDU
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:57:54 GMT

--From the Denver Post, Nov. 20, 1992
  Reprinted without permission
   by Jeffrey Leib

   Fallout from the passage of Amendment 2 continues as hotels and resorts
reported more cancellations by prospective customers yesterday, and Colorado
business leaders began charting plans to counteract negative publicity
stemming from the vote.
   "Dozens and dozens" of visitors who had planned to ski in Aspen this
winter have canceled those plans, said Aspen Skiing Co. senior vice
president John Norton.
   He said ski company officials have been responding to inquiries of
concern over the amendment by stressing that Aspen is one of three 
Colorado communities that has an anti-discrimination ordinance to protect
gays, and that Aspen residents voted 3-to-1 against Amendment 2.
  "But that clearly won't be enough," Norton said, adding that a boycott
Colorado movement "has the potential to snowball."
   To forestall that, the ski company and other Aspen businesses expect
to buy full-page advertisements in the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times
and USA Today telling prospective tourists about Aspen's commitment to
human rights, Norton said.
   Although opponents of Amendment 2 may be able to block it with a court
order, if the constitutional amendment goes into effect in January, Aspen's
city ordinance would be voided.  Similar ordinances in Denver and Boulder
also are threatened.
   Several more metro Denver hotels yesterday reported cancellations of 
business meetings because of the amendment.
   "A major East Coast financial firm pulled 150 room-nights and that's
a huge amount of business for us," said Kevin Eggleston, director of 
sales for the Loews Giorgio Hotel just off South Colorado Boulevard in
Glendale.  "We lost $20,000."
   He said the financial firm had tentatively booked 75 rooms for two
nights at the Giorgio for its April 1993 board of directors meeting.
   "They are going to San Francisco," Eggleston added.
   Indra Tilgass, director of sales and marketing for the Brown Palace
Hotel, said two groups have canceled meetings at the Denver hotel because
of Amendment 2.
   Some members of the American Library Association are planning a series
of protests against Amendment 2 when they attend the association's 
national convention in Denver in January.
   The imminence of the event made cancellation impossible.  But
Peggy Sullivan, executive director of the 55,000-member library
association, said she expects resolutions at the January meeting to cancel
plans to hold the convention again in Denver in 1998.


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From: jules@cs.colorado.edu
Subject: California law overturned
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:10:49 GMT

> 
> The Oregonian, Tuesday, November 17, 1992
> 
> 
> By Michelle Locke
> 
> Martinez, California - A judge Monday threw out an anti-gay measure that
> passed in the Oakland suburub of Concord by 42 votes in 1991.
> 
> The ruling came four days after a lawsuit was filed against a similar
> measure that just passed in Colorado, and attorneys on th winning sided 
> hailed it as part of a judical trend.
> 
> "This is a great encouragement to the case in Colorado," said 
> American Civil Liberties Union attorney Matt Coles, "One or two
> more victories showing that the courts will not tolerate this and we may be 
> able to stop this initiative madness."
> 
> In elections last month, voters in Oregon turned down Measure 9, which 
> would have amended the Oregon Constitution to declare homosexuality abnormal.
> And last week in Oregon, the Oregon Court of Appeals overturned a 1988 anti-
> gay rights measure that had rescinded then Gov. Neil Goldschmidt's 
> executive order barring state agencies from discrimination against gay men 
> and lesbians because of their sexual orientation.
> 
> But voters in Colorado......
> 
> In California, the state Court of Appeals declared a similar ordinance
> in Riverside unconstitutional last year.  That case arose after the city
> council refused to put the ordinance on a 1991 ballot.
> 
> The Concord initiative, which passed by 42 votes in November 1991, overturned
> part of a city human rights law banning discrimination on the basis of
> sexual orientation.
> 
> Contra Costa County Superior Court Judge Ellen James said Monday that 
> Measure M singled out gays for unequal treatment without good cause.  She
> threw out the law without a trial.  Measure M was never enforced because
> opponents got a court order banning it while the lawsuit was pending.
> 
> Proponents argued that gays and bisexuals pose a public health risk because
> of their sexual practices."

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From: woods@claven.ucar.edu (Greg Woods)
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Subject: Re: Morally Right (Re: VOTE, BABY, VOTE!
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:45:39 GMT
Organization: Scientific Computing Division/NCAR Boulder, CO

>> >garrett@Ingres.COM (WE'RE ONLY HERE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ALL HERE) writes:
>> But to withhold help from someone who
>> needs it, cannot be morally defended.
>
>I wouldn't be that sure.  If you found Hitler starving--would you feed
>him? 

Oh, dear. According to USENET tradition, you know a debate has gone on
too long when someone drags out Hitler and the Nazis  :-)

--Greg
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