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From: emru@CAM.ORG (Emru Townsend)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Re: Gun control instead of guts and conscience?
Date: 20 Dec 92 06:28:27 GMT
Organization: MegaCorp Central Complex

v_vinog@pavo.concordia.ca (VINOGRADOV, VLADIMIR) writes:

>Never mind Fabricant... In U of M there were dozens of males and the most
>ONE representative of this intellectual chivalrous crowd do is to shoot
>himself later. How can the others live now? Isd their miserable life 
>worth anythind? How can they date girls? 

Ever been in a situation where your life is threatened?  There are three
possible reactions: fight, flight, and freeze.  The first is a lot harder
than you think.

I think someone should have done something, but having faced the barrel of
a loaded gun before, I understand why someone wouldn't.
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From: ranfry@mala.proteus.qc.ca (Ranfry)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Re: Dial up connection?
Keywords: INTERNET access
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:52:20 GMT
Distribution: mtl
Organization: Mala's Refuge, Montreal, Canada

In <1992Dec12.182142.15436@cc.umontreal.ca> parej@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Pare Jerome) writes:
>Salut a tous!

>J'aurais deux petites questions a vous poser:

>Est-ce qu'il existe un moyen d'avoir une adresse internet
>(du genre Dial up) qui serait disponible (gratuitement ou
>commercialement, bien entendu la premiere eventualite
>serait preferable...) a Montreal?
>Ce site devrait etre abonne aux News et aux mail INTERNET
>(un peu comme ce qu'on a ici a l'UdeM) pour etre inclus 
>dans ma requete.

>Est-ce que cela existe ici a Montreal ou si cela n'est 
>disponible qu'aux Etats-Unis?
>Merci a vous tous!

>--
>Ciao!
>Jerome Pare	parej@jsp.umontreal.ca

	Bien sur que ca existe a Montreal, mom system Mala's Refuge est un
tell service.  Sur mon system on peut envoye et recevoir de la malle 
Internet, et j'ai des groupes Usenet.  Le coups?  Gratiut.  Prends garde,
Je n'ai pas de connection direct avec L'Internet, alors, pas de FTP ni de
Telnet.

	Aussi, je ne suis pas le seule a Montreal, il y'a plusieurs system
qui font de meme.  Et il y'en a qui sont connecter a l'Internet, mais eux
ils charge pour le service.


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From: jeffjc@cs.mcgill.ca (Jeffrey CHANCE)
Subject: Re: who's forcing whom to work?
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:19:31 GMT

ranfry@mala.proteus.qc.ca (Ranfry) writes:
>Ken.Quinn@f210.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org (Ken Quinn) writes:
>> [somebody else wrote:]
>> C> If I take in a ball game on Sunday, I'm forcing metro operators,
>> C> stadium ushers, peanut vendors, etc., etc. to work.  Why is it
>> C> important for store clerks to spend Sunday with their family,
>> C> but not for these other groups?  If you really believe in Sunday
>> C> as a family day, shouldn't we close down all non-essential
>> C> activities, not just retail sales?
>
>>Yes
>
>	Wow!  What a great response.   Just goes to show how little you 
>actually think.  The majority of people work on the alternate schedules, 
>with a lot of them working on Sundays, your idea is impracticle and unfair. 
>Why should Sunday be sacred?  Just because the catholic church says so?  
>What about those who Sacred day is Saturday?  What about those whose sacred
>days is Friday?  Stop being a bigot, open your eyes.

I think most people would agree that at least certain people 
should work on Sunday- eg. bus drivers, metro operators, gas stations,
local small food store. We need to have transportation to get
places (case in point- even those visiting family), gas is needed
if we take the car, and people shouldn't have to be inconvenienced
if they need some food items. The answer to the above argument is
simply to let those people who really don't care about it, let
them work Sunday if they choose to. The others work on other
days of the week. Of course, nobody should be -forced- to work
on Sunday. 

Jeff
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From: zilioli@hamming.uucp (Davide Zilioli)
Subject: Re: who's forcing whom to work?
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal, Genie Informatique
 
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:31:12 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.200332.13922@cs.mcgill.ca> depeche@cs.mcgill.ca (Acme Instant Dehydrated Boulder Kit) writes:
>In article <723890287.AA07553@illusion.tpg.org> Ken.Quinn@f210.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org (Ken Quinn) writes:
>>
>> Another
>>good reason, IMO, for refusing to work Sundays is the family. In this day and
>
>oh give me a break... What if you don't *HAVE* a family?
>
>And why can't the family organize a family day on its own?
>We don't need laws to defend people's right for a pursuit of
>"quality time with the kids"... 
>

We certainly do need laws which help society to be formed of united
families. Laws are made to foster the common good, and strong families
are part of this common good.

We hear repeating over and over that the most important resource
of a country is its youth: the family unit plays a fondamental
role in allowing society to have happy, serene, mentally stable,
idealistic, capable of effort..., youth.

Laws are also made to foster the particular good of the individuals,
and if any one has been lucky enough to live his or her childhood
and youth in a united family, he would't exchange that against
anything else. I, anyway, wouldn't.

Maybe you haven't been so lucky, but that's not a reason to prevent
others to have this opportunity.

Toasty banana,
                 Dave
From: ranfry@mala.proteus.qc.ca (Ranfry)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Re: who's forcing whom to work?
Date: 18 Dec 92 08:59:35 GMT
Organization: Mala's Refuge, Montreal, Canada

In <724576131.AA09444@illusion.tpg.org> Ken.Quinn@f210.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org (Ken Quinn) writes:
> C> If I take in a ball game on Sunday, I'm forcing metro operators,
> C> stadium ushers, peanut vendors, etc., etc. to work.  Why is it
> C> important for store clerks to spend Sunday with their family,
> C> but not for these other groups?  If you really believe in Sunday
> C> as a family day, shouldn't we close down all non-essential
> C> activities, not just retail sales?

> C> Tom Box


>Yes


	Wow!  What a great response.   Just goes to show how little you 
actually think.  The majority of people work on the alternate schedules, 
with a lot of them working on Sundays, your idea is impracticle and unfair. 
Why should Sunday be sacred?  Just because the catholic church says so?  
What about those who Sacred day is Saturday?  What about those whose sacred
days is Friday?  Stop being a bigot, open your eyes.


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From: neveu@tintin (Jean-Sebastien Neveu)
Subject: Re: FOR SALE !!!
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:47:03 GMT

Mark Kraml (Mark.Kraml@f250.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org) wrote:
: Hello Gil!
: 
: Friday December 11 1992, Gil Morisset writes to All:
: 
:  GM> For Sale !
:  GM> A country that doen't and can't realise where it's from and where it's
:  GM> going ! A country thar refuses to recognise Le Fait Franais !
: 
: you must be talking about new brunswick. i guess you didnt hear it the Bloc
: Quebecois that blocked passage of the law making new brunswick the first
: bilingual province in canada. i suspect you dont really understand who does
: not believe in canada here.
: 
: my french freinds say they are "ashamed" of having a law like "101" and "178".
: i told them i am a born quebecois also i am also ashamed. it seems the
: government and the media was also ashamed when mordecai richler published our
: little xenophobic secrets in new yorker magazine.
: 
: Mark

Mordecai Richler... C'est tu celui qui ecrivait dans Croc la ??? *;-)

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From: bspencer@cs.mcgill.ca (Brian SPENCER)
Subject: Re: Welcome to Quebec/repressed liberties
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:40:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.094417.27816@spxtech.qc.ca> steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter) writes:
>              Bienvenue au Quebec, ou
>
>  "nous avons suspendu les libertes fondamentales..."
>                            
>      {Premier Robert Bourassa, 14 Mars, 1989}
>
>
>
>           Welcome to Quebec, where
>
>  "we have suppressed fundamental liberties..."
>
>   {Premier Robert Bourassa, March 14th, 1989}
>
>
Apparently, one reasons given for why the language laws will be changed
is that Quebec politicians are getting a lot of flak from other world
leaders concerning their language laws. While the laws are not as
oppressive as some other countries, they are a source of embarrassement
for Quebec (I wonder if the French papers reported this...they're
selective in what they report about others' view of Quebec's language
laws). In short, a law such as 101 or 178 are not expected from a
Western country like Canada.

Brian Spencer (bspencer@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca)

Newsgroups: mtl.general
From: neveu@tintin (Jean-Sebastien Neveu)
Subject: Re: Welcome to Quebec/repressed liberties
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:43:48 GMT

Marc Savard (Marc.Savard@p300.f0.n651.z0.illusion.tpg.org) wrote:
: Hello Steve!
: 
: ** On a computer far far away, Steve Potter wrote to All:
: 
:  SP>               Bienvenue au Quebec, ou
: 
:  SP>   "nous avons suspendu les libertes fondamentales..."
: 
:  SP>       {Premier Robert Bourassa, 14 Mars, 1989}
: 
: Et le contexte, lui?  ON peut attribuer n'importe quelle intention a n'importe
: qui en le citant hors contexte...
: 
:    Marc
: 
: ... Join Taglines Anonymous.  We can help.

De toute facon le point de vue de Bourassa on le connaissait deja. Alors,
mon cher Steve, tant qu'a y etre t'as quand emprunte des citations de
Desmond Tutu...

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From: leyfre@McRCIM.McGill.EDU (Frederic Leymarie)
Subject: Re: stupid, stupid #2    
Organization: McGill Research Centre for  Intelligent Machines
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 18:56:22 GMT


In article <1992Dec16.172933.18393@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>, bspencer@cs.mcgill.ca
 (Brian SPENCER) writes:
|> In article <gate.RPRVVB1w165w@cithara.login.qc.ca> william@cithara.login.qc.ca
 (william) writes:
|> >   From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
|> >   Newsgroups: mtl.general
|> >   Subject: Re: stupid, stupid #2
|> >   Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:23:53 GMT
|> >   Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

|> >   In article <1992Dec15.203748.9629@cs.mcgill.ca> bspencer@cs.mcgill.ca (Brian
|> >    I hear that the new casino that will open in Montreal will probably have
|> >    French only signs...stupid, stupid, stupid.

|> >DB>J'ai vu plus d'envois sur mtl.general en anglais alors que Montreal est
|> >  >une ville francophone majoritairement.

|> >DB>stupide, stupide, stupide...

|> >I believe the point he was trying to make, which obviously escapes you,
|> >is that a casino would be a major tourist attraction...for
|> >Americans...who speak English.  But if they can't read the signs or
|> >understand what's going on and where, then they'll take their American
|> >dollar$ to Atlantic City instead.

|> Yes, that was exactly my point.

|> Brian.

And what the (numerous!) Americans do when they "invade" Paris (and the
rest of France) every summer ?? ... Most signs are not in English !
How shocking!
Furthermore, most people don't speak English (I mean American ;-) ...

I guess you think Montreal would be so much more attractive if it was
NOT SO DIFFERENT from other major North-American cities ? Right?  NOT

Une ville a caractere francais a bien plus d'attrait, a mon avis, du point de
vue touristique ... Et puis ce sera au gouvernement et a la ville a bien
vendre sa "salade".

Eh bon Dieu! Les touristes, Americains ou autres, doivent s'attendre
a un peu d'exotisme en s'aventurant "si loin" de leur patelin ! Non? ;-)

Good luck my friend.

BTW, Loto-Quebec expects that 75% of its customers will be Quebeckers ...

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From: bspencer@cs.mcgill.ca (Brian SPENCER)
Subject: Re: stupid, stupid #2    
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:29:33 GMT

In article <gate.RPRVVB1w165w@cithara.login.qc.ca> william@cithara.login.qc.ca (william) writes:
>   Path: cithara!comback!sobeco!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!sifon!clouso.crim.ca!
>   From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
>   Newsgroups: mtl.general
>   Subject: Re: stupid, stupid #2
>   Message-ID: <BzBKrt.3Bu@ireq.hydro.qc.ca>
>   Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:23:53 GMT
>   References: <1992Dec15.203748.9629@cs.mcgill.ca>
>   Sender: news@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Netnews Admin)
>   Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada
>
>   In article <1992Dec15.203748.9629@cs.mcgill.ca> bspencer@cs.mcgill.ca (Brian
>    I hear that the new casino that will open in Montreal will probably have
>    French only signs...stupid, stupid, stupid.
>
>DB>J'ai vu plus d'envois sur mtl.general en anglais alors que Montreal est
>  >une ville francophone majoritairement.
>
>DB>stupide, stupide, stupide...
>
>I believe the point he was trying to make, which obviously escapes you,
>is that a casino would be a major tourist attraction...for
>Americans...who speak English.  But if they can't read the signs or
>understand what's going on and where, then they'll take their American
>dollar$ to Atlantic City instead.
>---
>                                                                                                                                       
Yes, that was exactly my point.

Brian.
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From: hains@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Gaetan Hains)
Subject: cherche articles de bebe
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Distribution: mtl
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 22:10:07 GMT

J'acheterais tout article de bebe (garcon):
meubles, jouets, vetements etc. 
Merci,

I would buy any item for a baby (boy):
furniture, toys, clothes etc.
Thank you,

Gae'tan Hains      De'partement d'informatique et recherche ope'rationnelle
Universite' de Montre'al, C.P.6128 succursale A, Montre'al, Que'bec H3C 3J7
Tel. +1 514 343-5747   |   Fax. +1 514 343-5834   |  hains@iro.umontreal.ca
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From: Ken.Quinn@f210.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org (Ken Quinn)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: gray squirrels
Date: 14 Dec 92 23:03:58 GMT


 AIDBK> I just saw a black squirrel today. 
 AIDBK> Ya see them all over the place in ottawa, but I 
 AIDBK> never saw one in montreal
 AIDBK> before, and I've been here for 5 years now...

I used to see the odd gray squirrel in Guelph when I lived there. They have
some pretty big black birds there too!

Ken
Newsgroups: mtl.general
From: CZ94000 <CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: RE: who's forcing whom to work?
Organization: McGill University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:35:17 GMT

In article <724344050.AA08700@illusion.tpg.org> Ken.Quinn@f210.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org (Ken Quinn) writes:

Ken suggests things to do on a Sunday:
>
>Enjoy the sun. Take in a ball game. Go to Church. Visit the parents. Mow the
>lawn. Shovel the snow. Go to the museum. Ride the bike. Take a walk. Go
>fishing. The possibilities are endless.
>
If I take in a ball game on Sunday, I'm forcing metro operators,
stadium ushers, peanut vendors, etc., etc. to work.  Why is it
important for store clerks to spend Sunday with their family,
but not for these other groups?  If you really believe in Sunday
as a family day, shouldn't we close down all non-essential
activities, not just retail sales?

Tom Box
CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA

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From: alex@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (A. Okapuu-von Veh)
Subject: Re: black squirrels
Organization: EE Lab, McGill University EE Lab, Montreal
Distribution: mtl
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:13:30 GMT

How about *red* squirrels?  They're all over Europe, but not here.  Likewise,
you'll never see a grey squirrel in Europe.  Hmmm....

Alex

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From: jeffjc@cs.mcgill.ca (Jeffrey CHANCE)
Subject: Re: who's forcing whom to work?
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 21:04:19 GMT

Ken.Quinn@f210.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org (Ken Quinn) wrote:
>
>Another
>good reason, IMO, for refusing to work Sundays is the family. In this day and
>age where everyone is always on the go, one day is needed to spend with the
>family: You know, to do things with the wife and kids. I'm not sure I'm saying
>stores should not be allowed to open. What I definately am saying is that a
>Family Day really is needed and Sunday is a great day to use.
>
>Ken

I agree completely. And if you don't have a family Sunday can be a day
for just doing what you want, be it catching up on things or relaxing.
I personally find that the whole mood of a Sunday is much more
peaceful than any other day and I think that this is beneficial for
you, me and everybody.

Jeff
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From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion)
Subject: Rave scene
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Distribution: mtl
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:56:15 GMT

- each tuesday and saturday: techno-grave at foufounes electriques
(87 Ste-Catherine east)

- each thursday and sunday: techno rave nights at La Fac
(Ste-Catherine and st-hubert)

- each tuesday: ? at Paradise Garage (breakbeat techno and house)
(382 mayor)

- each wednesday and saturday: Bigbang (deep house/dance/hi-nrg)
  each friday: Bigbang (trance. Well it's supposed to be...)
(1400 Montcalm corner Ste-Catherine)

- each sunday: subsonic sundays at la Brique (i suspect its industrial)
(32 Ste-Catherine street west)

- each saturday (was sunday): Saturn 6 at DAX (underground techno)
(Ste-Catherine and Sanguinet)

- each weekends: techno at kleenex (sometime all night)
(Notre-Dames in old Montreal, near St-Denis... good luck in finding it)

- most of the time: rave or hi-nrg at K.O.X. Station "C"
(1450 Ste-Catherine east) 

If you know of other clubs, contact me.

I have not included information on raves not in clubs. For that, join the
north-east rave mailing list: ne-raves-request@silver.lcs.mit.edu with
subject: subscribe.

Ciao,
--
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From: Ken.Quinn@f210.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org (Ken Quinn)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: who's forcing whom to work?
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:35:42 GMT


 C> If I take in a ball game on Sunday, I'm forcing metro operators,
 C> stadium ushers, peanut vendors, etc., etc. to work.  Why is it
 C> important for store clerks to spend Sunday with their family,
 C> but not for these other groups?  If you really believe in Sunday
 C> as a family day, shouldn't we close down all non-essential
 C> activities, not just retail sales?

 C> Tom Box


Yes
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From: cottreau@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca ( martin p  cottreau)
Subject: For sale/ A vendre
Organization: EE Lab, McGill University EE Lab, Montreal
Distribution: Local
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:23:20 GMT

I have the following article for sale:
Je vends les articles suivants:

          Large kitchen table (brown) / Table de cuisine (brune) : $20
          150 litres mini-fridge / Mini-frigdaire de 150 litres : $100

Both prices are negotiables.  Les prix sont negociables.

Contact(-ez) 
Martin au/at 286-6602
ou/or cottreau@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca
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