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From: tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson)
Subject: Re: The Deserving Heisman?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:42:28 GMT

noonan@icd3 (Michael Noonan) writes:

>Todd Henderson writes:

>>Don't you think it could have been ripped, pulled out in a tackle, lost in
>>the hoopla after the game, just not a good place to take something that's not
>>     .
>>     .
>>     .
>>>(Unfair insult alert...)
>>>What kind of ethics/grammar do they teach at Texas A&M?
>>
>>I probably have better ethics than most people, I help old ladies across the
>>street, correct cashiers when they make a mistake either way, etc.:):)  

>I'm sure this is true - I tried to take the bite out of my remark with the
>warning.

I understood and that's why I tried to reply with a little bit of humor, and
maybe a little bit of a jab.

>>However,
>>I also know when I don't know enough about an event to make a judgement. Based
>>on what you heard, it was wrong to keep the towel, which I don't believe
>>happened.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^jab,jab,jab

>Based on what I know, it was wrong to take the towel.  Whether or not the
>player kept the towel is irrelevent to the issue.
> 
>>          But you can hear many different stories, I don't put a lot of faith

>I was at the game and saw a player take something that didn't belong to him.
>I saw another player react in an inappropriate way.  I think the second

I was at the game also.  However, I was in the endzone, not a good view. 
Most games that I've been to, unless you were very close, or had very good
eyes, this as subtle as someone having/taking/... something like a towel after
a pile is quite difficult.  Then again, I did not grow watching football since
my high school did not have one.(i.e. I do not have a football trained eye I
guess  :))

>>On the grammar part, A&M tried to help me, I was to far gone.  It also 
>>probably has to do with the engineer in me(not meant to affend the many
>>engineers who are very well spoken).  However, I thought this was a forum for
>>relaxed, open conversation.  I think critiquing(sp?) on the net in a rec.xxx
>>group is a little lame.  

>I agree - I should have put a couple of smiley's in there somewhere.

They were understood.  Besides, Aggies are used to Aggie jokes, I took it as
such.

>All this aside, I would like to see a rematch between the teams, and perhaps
>it can happen this year.

Agreed A&M should be able to provide some good games this year if they don't
choke.  Big problem, I think Slocum(sp) has done better at avoiding it than
Sherril(sp).

Later,
Todd

>-Mike Noonan
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From: nelson@clunker.b21.ingr.com (nelson jordan)
Subject: Re: SEC SCHEDULE?
Organization: ^$
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:29:41 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.154840.7578@b30.ingr.com> tad@tad.b30.ingr.com writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.170519.19162@b11.b11.ingr.com>, mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell) writes:
>
>|> >
>|> >>     You guys better find out the time of this one.  Majors and the
>|> >> team may want to watch it on TV.
>|> >> 
>|> >
>|> >The last few years the Alabama fans I know have been pretty humble and waited 
>|> >until after the third Saturday in October to do their "woofing".  Could it be
>|> >this year they're going to come out of the closet before the season begins?
>|> >I can only hope this will be another case where Oliver's Woofing Theorum is 
>|> >proven true.  
>|> 
>|>     Try as I might, I can see no "woofing" of any sort in my
>|> observation.  I was just trying to be helpful.  Besides, who
>|> mentioned Alabama?  This time.
>
>
>
>Yes, you're right.  There isn't any specific "woofing" in your post.  As a thin 
>skinned Tennessee fan I read between the lines and saw woofing when there was 
>none.  It does seem there is more pro-Bama talk this year than in past years;
>with the returning talent (lead by several Curry-recruited players :)) and
>a relatively soft schedule maybe there is good reason to woof. 
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^???

  Relative to what? Have you seen the schedule? Hell, the 1st string can warm
the bench for the first 6 games.

>
>
>|> 
>|> --
>|> Guy McConnell
>|> guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com
>
>
>Tad Stephens
>tad@tad.b30.ingr.com
From: rszczerb@verdi.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: I do, but do you..
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:09:26 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

In article <1992Jul23.183946.22948@alw.nih.gov> ravi@alw.nih.gov (Ravi Boddapati) writes:
>I hate Notre Dame and its football team!  I was wondering howmany others
>share the same feelings.  Ofcourse, you don't have to have a valid reason
>for hating something or somebody.
>
>So, I have come up with an idea.  Let's make a survey on the net and see
>the general feelings towards Notre Dame.
>
>All you have to do is add your name under the appropriate column below.
>I would be glad to summarize the results, later.
>
>
>I hate Notre Dame				I don't
>*****************			*********************
>Ravi Boddapati - ravi@helix.nih.gov	
>
>
>No flames please.
>
>-- Ravi
>
No flames, please ?!? you've got to be kidding.  When someone
puts a moronic posting on the net like that one you're
just begging to get royally flamed.
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From: tremblay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Marc Tremblay)
Subject: PAC 10 Heismans (was: Heisman Poll Update)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 17:15:42 GMT

In article <22008@venera.isi.edu> tlh@.isi.edu (Tom Hamilton) writes:
>In article <8ePeo6O00Uh_01OJZk@andrew.cmu.edu> tf0y+@andrew.cmu.edu
>>(Todd Harris Fletcher) writes:
>>Here are the current standings in the Heisman Poll......

snip, snip...

>
>How many heismans does the pac-10 own. Of couse I know of SC's 4 and I
>know there is at least 1 more. Anyone?

$tanfurd's got one, Plunkett won it in '72.


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| tremblay@sunrise.stanford.edu  |  like the pleasant  |
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From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Uniforms (was Re: ND lovers / haters)
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:10:06 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

sdb@redbeard.physics.fsu.edu (Scott D. Berry) writes:

>Wasn't it the leather helmets that was responsible for our beloved president
>Gerald Ford after his years as a center at Michigan (early 30's)?  At least
>that's what I like to think...

He did seem to have some trouble keeping his balance, didn't he.

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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: Beer sales at college games
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:00:07 GMT
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  No beer sold at Kyle Field for Aggie games.  Just as well, the thought of
a drunken second deck (where most of the upperclassmen are--best seats(?) in
the stadium) trying to remain upright while "sawing varsity's horns off"
is alternately hilarious and downright scary (like many a Midnight Yell 
Practice, come to think of it...)

semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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From: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Kevin Williams Arrested!
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:12:39 GMT
Reply-To: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Organization: Florida State University

In article <5913@npri6.npri.com> murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy) writes:
>wcarroll@infocenter.encore.com (William Carroll) writes:
> >when he was arrested and charged with carrying a stolen gun in a car he
> >was driving, his attorney said Tuesday. WTVJ-TV (Ch. 4) reported the gun
> >was given to Williams by his father. Williams' father said he bought the
>i was under the impression that carrying a gun without a license
>was illegal _anywhere_ in the united states.  kevin should be
>guilty of that, at least, if not dabbling in stolen property.

Well, there's carrying and then there's CARRYING.

You can own a firearm in Florida (and thankfully, most other states
still) without any kind of license. You can carry a firearm in Florida
in your vehicle without a license as long as it is properly stored. You
cannot carry a concealed firearm in your vehicle and you cannot carry a
concealed firearm on your person without a license. Obviously you
cannot be in possesion of a stolen firearm. 

Hey, lets take it to talk.politics.guns, okay people!!?? ;-)

David Poore
poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu
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From: jvbutera@grad00.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera)
Subject: Re: ND lovers / haters
Organization: NCSU Mathematics Dept.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 03:46:19 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.210704.2914@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming) writes:
>Jeff Thompson writes:
>
>>ND is indeed a FFF which is a DAME shame since it is a CATHOLIC SCHOOL.
>>Please do not take this as a racial view but how does someone name ISHMAIL
>>(or something like that) end up at a CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY?  Not to mention
>>all the black atheletes that go there?  I'm not saying that there is
>>anything wrong with black Catholics, but shouldn't you be Catholic, or at
>>least be in the true process of converting to Catholicism?
>

To an ignorant Jeff Thompson:

NO, you need not be a Catholic or be converting to attend a Catholic
College or University.  I find your veiws here quite narrowminded....
Is your question supposed to imply there are absolutely no black
Catholics in America?  I'm not trying to start a war, but this is 
offensive.....
-- 
Jeff Butera <> Math Grad Student, N.C. State <> jvbutera@math.ncsu.edu

DISCLAIMER: My views are my own and I'll be a big N.C.State Wolfpack 
fan as soon as hell freezes over.  Until then... Go Clemson Tigers! 
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From: garys@cs.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith)
Subject: Re: Hey Cliff...
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:59:48 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.220709.5250@u.washington.edu> crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>In article <1992Jul30.194541.17241@tamsun.tamu.edu> garys@cs.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith) writes:
>>
>>Hey Cliff, what is the name of that dumb Miami bird mascot?
>>
>>- goober (can i be a fool too) smith
>
>Hey goob, I don't know, I just root for whoever is playing the Fighting
>Frenchmen.
>
>- cliff (you can be a fool if i can be a goober) slaughterbeck


Hey Cliff, let's get together and drink a fifth of some 12 year old Scotch.


- goober (am i in?) smith
From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ND lovers / haters
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:45:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <63919@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccastmm@prism.gatech.EDU (Mike Marler) writes:
>In <63912@hydra.gatech.EDU> jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch) writes:
>
>|>or post bowl scores.   This is because I went to Kentucky, which doesn't
>|>really play football...   (OK, maybe they play *at* football).
>
>But you got the best quitter that money can buy!  Bill Curry.
>Mike Marler                        | "Saving every nickel to spend on my

I don't think he was a quitter.  He was "cast out" by those who thought
they knew more about football than he did.  Given the way he was viewed 
as an outsider for not being one of the Bear's boys, it's amazing he 
lasted as long as he did at Alabama.

He's not going to find the job at Kentucky easy, though, by any means.
He certainly won't be able to recruit as well there as he did at 
either Tech or Alabama.  While expectations at UK in football are
considerably lower than at those schools, if Curry doesn't produce 
within 1-2 years, you'll start to hear rumblings.
 
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From: henders@infonode.ingr.com (Greg Henderson)
Subject: Re: Vols Chances for SEC
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:42:16 GMT

jeff@jlk.b11.ingr.com (Jeff Kilpatrick) writes:
>  It's going to tough again for Bama.  Miss St. @Starkville, Coach Sherrill has
>done an outstanding job there in his first season, some are predicting they will
>win the Western Division.  Don't forget LSU at Baton Rouge for the 2nd straight
>year.  Curly Hallman is an outstanding coach; looking at their schedule (thanks
>again Mark), with the exception of Auburn and Florida, all their tough games are
>at home.  Bama opens at home against a Vanderbilt team that won more games last

But wait, isn't the Auburn/Alabama game in B'ham??  Surely you don't
consider that an away game... ;)


-- 

Greg Henderson   henders@infonode.ingr.com   ...uunet!ingr!infonode!henders
From: KPS@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: PSU Dress Code / No Smoking
Date: 24 Jul 92 12:06:56 GMT
 <1992Jul23.193346.5397@walter.bellcore.com>
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Jul23.193346.5397@walter.bellcore.com>,
kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge) says:

>In article <92205.135530KPS@psuvm.psu.edu>, <KPS@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

 comments about PSU's new smoking policy deleted.

>Well, whether your policy can be considered leading-edge or not (I currently
>know of no other similar policy), if it is going to be enforced like the
>no-smoking policies are at concerts, I wouldn't put too much stock in things
>changing given this rule will have to be enforced to tens of thousands of
>fans.

Somebody already mentioned that Michigan has a similar policy and he said that
it isn't really enforced.  It should at least cut down on it and if anybody
really feels like pushing the issue, if the smoker does not quit when asked
the non-smoker now has the power to make him quit or be removed.

Kevin S.
KPS at psuvm.psu.edu
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From: vamplew@probitas.cs.utas.edu.au (Peter Vamplew)
Subject: UCLA opponent on 10th October?
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:21:26 GMT

In October this year I'll be taking part in the Australian Kookaburras
American Football tour to the US and the UK. According to our schedule
we will be seeing a game at the Rose Bowl on October 10th.

What I would like to know is - who is UCLA's opponent for this game?

Also we don't get much college football down here so can you also let me
know whether this is going to be a close game or a massacre or what?

Thanks

Peter Vamplew

PS Are there any Cal Tech players or fans out there? We're supposed to
   play you guys on the 9th.
From: rszczerb@verdi.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: I do, but do you..
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:27:12 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

In article <84254@netnews.upenn.edu> taoc@grad1.cis.upenn.edu (Chi-Chih Tao) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.183946.22948@alw.nih.gov> ravi@alw.nih.gov (Ravi Boddapati) writes:
>>I hate Notre Dame and its football team!  I was wondering howmany others
>>share the same feelings.  Ofcourse, you don't have to have a valid reason
>>for hating something or somebody.
>>
>>I hate Notre Dame				I don't
>>*****************			*********************

If you're going to make statements that you hate a school, I would
really be interested in hearing some of the reasons.
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From: dostalik@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Bill Dostalik)
Subject: Re: I do, but do you..
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:33:33 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.152019.21291@ncar.ucar.edu> ethan@earl.scd.ucar.edu (Ethan Alpert) writes:
>
>Well I can't say I hate ND but I sure dislike them. Why?
>
>Well I went to both ND vs. Colorado Orange Bowls at Joe Roby Stadium and
                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   last I heard, they played the Orange Bowl at the *Orange Bowl*
   but, of course, CU hasn't been there *that* many times

>I had some first hand experience with the ND fans who are the main reason
>why I dislike ND.
>
>them. I can't respect a team that has lame fans. Come to Colorado and we'll
>show you what REAL FOOTBALL FANS ARE LIKE.

	obnoxious?  rude?  obviously well informed?
>
>The most important thing that makes me dislike ND is the fact that they asked
>the O-Bowl to NOT sell BEER at the game. Is this the lamest thing you've ever
>heard of. I can't stand people who try to impose their values on others. I 
>you don't want to drink at a football game don't but why ruin it for everyone
>else. Its this sense of superiority that really bugs me.
>
>	-ethan

Okay, I'll give you the point on the beer.

But, enough with this ND banter, already!  I mean, WHO CARES?!  They're one of
a couple dozen good programs, so let's have some fresh topics!  Jeez, I can't
wait until the season starts.

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 06:53:10 EDT
From: <FKR@psuvm.psu.edu>   Fred Rozenblad
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Penn State Dress Code

I hate those white uniforms. The blue jerseys are fair, but the all-white
uniforms :-) .

It's kind of funny. The offense at Penn State has opened up compared to the
up-the-middle-ground-pounding stuff that PSU football is know for. But we
can't get JoePa to change those damn uniforms. Ugh!


Fred Rozenblad
FKR@psuvm.psu.edu
From: v262xxve@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Timothy C Pitts)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: GaTech "Doing It Again"
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:36:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <64005@hydra.gatech.EDU>, mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes...
#I think you meant to say "4 times in the past 8 years" and "twice in the
#past 8 years", Tim.

Wait a second, now: before 1984, when was the last time GaTech beat Georgia?

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From: daytrpr@max.u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: <None>
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:36:08 GMT



OK, OK...now that all of the preseason football magazines are out, makin'

qqqqq
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From: garys@cs.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith)
Subject: A&M    (was some bs about Auburn and the patsy 11)
Keywords: n
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 16:14:57 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.224545.4224@hou.amoco.com> zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace) writes:
>A REAL hit was the one that Quentin Coryatt gave that TCU brat last year.
>You know, the one that knocked half of his teeth out, broke is jaw and 
>left him unconcious.  The same one that ESPN labelled as last years hardest.
>
>You know, I really felt sorry for the Horned Frogs that game.  They
>were crushed and then battered.  RC should have put in the second
>string in the second quarter.

and the third string in the third quarter 
and the fourth string in the fourth quarter.

'course Fort Worth Star-Telegram's Steve Campbell makes this prediction for
the top four teams in the SWC:

1) A&M's first team
2) A&M's second team
3) A&M's freshmen
4) A&M's redshirts

- goober (oops there goes another broken jaw) smith
From: gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Vols Chances for SEC
Keywords: Georgia ... in the final
Date: 31 Jul 92 02:48:55 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


Georgia in the final???  You have to be kidding.  Just how many players has
UGA lost this year due to injuries, poor grades, kicked out of school, DUI, etc?
Aren't most of them from the defense.  No matter how good a QB Zeier is, UGA
won't win many games if the defense (or lack thereof) gives up as many points
as Zeier puts on the board.  Besides, even they have a good year it seems
unlikely they can beat the Gators this year.  BTW, what was last year's score
of the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party?
"
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Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: Re: The Deserving Heisman?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 01:43:49 GMT

John Leinaweaver writes:

[Comparison of Paul Hornung to Jim Brown deleted]

>Gee, and Notre Dame didn't have Brent Mussberger(sp?) backing Hornung
>then.  Looks like Syracuse players lost twice to Notre DAme
>(MacPherson and Jim Brown) - who was it that said Notre Dame does
>what's best for college football (I know, you'll say that it was
>the voters fault and not the school :))

In "Wake Up the Echoes", the NFL films history of Notre Dame football, Paul 
Hornung states that he doesn't hink he would have won the Heisman had he not 
been the Notre Dame quarterback.  You make the call.

     - Pat
.
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