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From: guillaum@pogo.trl.OZ.AU (Andrew Guillaume)
Subject: Prodos 2.0.1 / Basic 1.5 name length checking
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2
Reply-To: a.guillaume@trl.oz.au
Organization: The Okefenokee Swamp
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:15:06 GMT


G'day !

I had a problem I had never come across until yesterday. I have a //c with a
Chinook 40Meg HD attached, and I am using Prodos 2.0.1 and Basic 1.5 which
I picked off a friend's diskette. I was creating a Basic file, and when
I decided to save it to disk, I unintentionnally gave it a name which was
19 characters long (myprogramv1.startup). I know that file names are limited
to 15 characters (right ?), so when the Syntax Error message came up, I
shortened the name. But what surprised me was that then Basic (or is it
Prodos ?) complained about an IO error ! When I then tried to catalog the disk
(through various programs such as CatDoctor, Shrinkit, Copy2+, and through
the Basic catalog command), there was an extra file which contained loads of
control characters, was definitely more than 15 characters, and had bits and
pieces of the directory structure in its name ! I can only assume that the
first attempt to save the long name must have written bytes beyond the 15
bytes reserved for the name, thus causing havoc. So my question is, shouldn't
Basic/Prodos check the name length before even trying to write to disk ?

As a corollary to that, needless to say that both the aborted basic file and
the extra one were not to be deleted through "normal" means (such as using
Basic's delete, CatDoctor, Shrinkit, or Copy2+), and I spent hours (it had
never happened to me before) figuring out how to get rid of these files. I
ended up using MrFixit (Prosel8) to fix errors, so that no errors would be
reported, but then having files and a subdirectory (in which the files were 
placed) being immortal. They didn't want to disappear ! Luckily it was the
last entry in the directory, so I used Block Warden (Prosel8 again) to 
physically write 00's all over the subdirectory entry. I don't know what
further damage I may have caused, but the files and subdirectory disappeared, 
and any remaining errors were fixed again with MrFixit. Now I would like to
know what the experts out there (yes, you ! :-) would do in such a situation?

Incidentally, my HD came with Prodos 1.9 and Basic 1.4, and I just copied
the new Prodos and Basic over the old ones. Should I have done differently,
like reformat ? I would also like to know if any of the tools I have
mentioned (CatDoctor, Shrinkit, Copy2+ or even the Apple System Utilities)
will correctly format my hard disk if I required this to be done.

Thanks for any info you can give me, and I hope this is a good diversion
to the "Storm" and "Comments" posts :-) :-) :-)

Andrew Guillaume
a.guillaume@trl.oz.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
(Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0n7N5i-0000KUC; Thu, 31 Dec 92 02: 25 PST
From: tgeer@pro-gumbo.cts.com (System Administrator)
Subject: //e -> //gs upgrade
Organization: Apple Gumbo BBS
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 23:16:39 CST


Shreve Systems is no longer offering the $149 //e -> //gs upgrade.
What they are offering now is a $249 upgrade and you KEEP your //e
motherboard.  This was done for two reasons: 1) most people upgrading
wanted to keep their //e motherboards anyway.  2) They have THOUSANDS
of //e motherboards.  On another note, although //e's and //gs's have
all but disappeared from the dealers' showrooms, Shreve Systems has an
enormous stock of both systems with more arriving daily.  They will be
selling these systems for a long time to come.  New pricing is about to
be announced but I don't have that information yet.  I will post it as
soon as it becomes  available.

DISCLAIMER:  I do not work for, nor am I affiliated with Shreve Systems
----------   in any way.  (I just stop by there almost every day!)


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From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.apple2.gno
Subject: Re: Switch-It! Press Release
Date: 1 Jan 93 15:01:17 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes:

>bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:

>Isn't this just a BIT optimistic?? You compare it to MultiFinder but don't
>state that co-op multitasking isn't included. Unless you've actually got
>that working, I would have to say that you're misrepresenting your product
>in a big way, and that's not going to help you at all.

  Well, I could have said "Switcher" instead of "MultiFinder", but
99.9% of folks would not know what Switcher was.   I believe
WestCode called MultiLaunch a "MultiFinder" for the same reason.

-- 
 Jawaid Bazyar              |   Ask me about the GNO Multitasking Environment
 Procyon, Inc.              |   for the Apple IIgs!   
 bazyar@cs.uiuc.edu         |   P.O Box 620334
 --Apple II Forever!--      |   Littleton, CO 80162-0334   (303) 933-4649
From: ST2975@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re:really basic question
Date: 30 Dec 92 05:46:44 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I would have sent this by e-mail, but Mr. Kohn's address was
lost by the time it got to me thru comp.sys.apple2/info-app.

I'm not exactly on internet, but bitnet, which can connect to
internet thru ftp and telnet.

So on my site there are two commands, ftp and telnet.

I type for example ftp ftp.apple.com
and in a few moments I know whether I have a connection.
At the prompt for user I type "anonymous"
For password, I type my internet address "st2975@siucvmb.siu.edu"
Not the quotes, what's inside the quotes.  For anonymous login,
password can be anything, but internet address is recommended.

I get email by subscribing to a listserv.  Email sent to comp.sys.apple2
and info-app is placed in my local mailbox as a series of files.  If I
don't read them or discard them, they disappear in about 2 weeks.

Joe, if you want to know more about bitnet sites, send me email.  I
think some of it is covered in the faq.

/*   Andy Werner        hybrid concepts     st2975@siucvmb.siu.edu  *
 *   HyperC enthusiast                 65802/816 support for HyperC *
 *   Laser 128EX          4Mhz 65802        st2975@siucvmb.bitnet   */

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: noahm@pro-freedom.cts.com (Noah Magram)
Subject: ****WANTED:  CRYPTOGRAPH BY TOM TOOLY SOFTWARE--SHAREWARE!!****
Date:  2 Jan 93 17:27:46 GMT 
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

Please, I am desperately needing a program call cryptograph, by tom tooly
software.  It is found on FTP sites under the name of 'crypto
then some version numbers...  I'd search for it myself, but I don't have
FTP access.   
 
Thanks in andvance..
 
Noah.

ProLine:  noahm@pro-freedom
Internet: noahm@pro-freedom.cts.com
UUCP:     crash!pro-freedom!noahm
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: paw@ausom.oz.au (Peter Watson)
Subject: Re: AWGS vs System 6
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 10:02:28 GMT
Reply-To: paw%ausom.oz@sol.cc.deakin.oz.au
Organization: AUSOM - The Apple Users Society of Melbourne

lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) writes:

>My father-in-law purchased a TMS Pro 105 hard disk recently.  It came with
>system 6, some inits, etc. installed.  He installed AWGS 1.1 on it and began
>working with it.  He found that it frequently freezes operation.  In one demo
>he provided for me, the mouse cursor continued to move, but no menu items
>would
>drop,  no windows would reposition, etc.  The system had to be rebooted.  He
>also saw times when the outside border of the screen (where text, windows etc
>never go) would turn to a bright red.
>
>Any ideas where to start looking for a fix for this problem?  What steps
>would be useful?

Rule 1 with AWGS - Install as much RAM as you can get! (1.5 Mb minimum)
Rule 2 with AWGS - Reinstall AWGS from the originals (I had to!)

Other than that, try with the shift key down to remove all INITs, DA's, etc.
-- 
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|| PO Box 493     ||     InterNet : paw%ausom.oz@sol.cc.deakin.oz.au   ||
|| Doncaster  Vic ||       "On a clear disk you can seek forever!"     ||
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From: edward@pro-ren.cts.com (Edward Floden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: rom 1 to rom 3 upgrade
Date: 26 Dec 92 13:55:21 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Technological Renaissance Information eXchange

Clayten_Hamacher@mindlink.bc.ca (Clayten Hamacher) writes:

>There were 4 types of ROM... rom 0...This didn't give a version number at
>boot.
>rom1-3 these identified themselves. ROM 2 is rare, I'm not sure it was ever
>released. ROM 3 has a few more tools and comes with 1meg standard on the
>board.

Close. ROM 00 was the original release. ROM 01 was the "bug fix" in 1987.

But ROM 02 never existed. Because so many users (according to the legend,
anyway) where confused that ROM 01 was the second ROM release, Apple decided
to call the third ROM release "ROM 03". This was to alleviate the fears of
non-techies who can't figure out how to count from zero. :)
From: sfinfroc@beta.tricity.wsu.edu (Scott H. Finfrock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: //e -> //gs upgrade
Date: 1 Jan 93 05:11:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1993Jan1.051127.17082
Organization: Washington State University Tri-Cities, Richland

Could someone tell me what the difference is between a //e and a
//GS (my parents have one of the former) and what the advantages
would be of upgrading?  Will //e software run on a //GS?  Will
//GS software run a //e?

Thanks

Scott Finfrock
From: herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Herbert Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Out Of This World Easter Eggs?
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 09:39:51 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Previously rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (Randy Sopicki) wrote:
 
>Easter Eggs??
>I've played the game and don't recollect easter eggs.
>Could you elaborate?
 
Apparently you need to press and hold the option key down in some key
sequences during the game and you will get some secret messages from
Burger Bill.
 
In fact all his games are supposed to have easter eggs including Dragon
Wars.
 
--
Herbert Fung                    | "Hard work doesn't make miracles,
Edmonton Remote Systems         |   Miracles just make hard work!"
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada       |       The Herbster! 1988

Herbert Fung              herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
From: ST7759@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Printer Card info (HELP!!)
Date: 31 Dec 92 11:24:33 GMT
Organization: The Internet

I have a problem.  I want to hook up an Epson Actionprinter T-1000 to my
IIe, using an Epson printer card.  The problem, according to Epson USA,
is that the card I have a) was never released officially or b)is a
Euro-creation. I did obtain the computer used while I was in Germany.  I
have no cable for this card, and I do not know what to do.  The
connection on the card (an Epson APL 8132 W) seems to require a 20-pin
connector similar to the connector found on the card end of the ribbon
cables for the old Disk II drives, 2 rows of 10 pins.  Could anyone out
there fill me in on where I could get such a cable (the prntr end is
standard Centronics 36), or BETTER, what the pinouts are for this card,
as I would prefer to make a cable (due to my budget of near-nada) rather
than buy one.  Budget is also the reason why I would prefer to use this
card if at all possible instead of buying another card.  There was also
a grafstar prntr card in my IIe, 2 rows if 13, 26 pins..Hm....
I would appreciate any assistance.  Please Email.
Thanks in advance...
-
Alex Falkenberg
st7759@siucvmb or st7759.siucvmb.siu.edu (internet)
Southern Illinois University - Carbondale
Es irrt der Mensch, so lang er strebt.  --- J.W.v.Goethe
(Man is in error throughout his strife.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: pinder2@newton.emba.uvm.edu.uvm.edu (Justin Pinder)
Subject: IIgs files -> serial port
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 20:52:11 GMT

Can anyone tell me how to send a file to the Apple serial port in "raw"
format? (Using ProDOS or system utilities)..? Is there any way to 
transmit files through the serial port at all?

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From: irie@husc11.harvard.edu (Robert E. Irie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: WANTED:  Your original 65816
Date: 23 Dec 92 21:19:43 GMT
Organization: Harvard Arts and Sciences Computer Services, Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: jdb8042@blkbox's message of 23 Dec 92 08:59:34 GMT

hmm, I think you are confusing the 65816 and 65802. The 65802 is
pin-compatible with the 65c02, and you could drop it into your socket
on the //e. The 65816, however ISNT pin compatible so you CANT simply
drop it in. The difference I think is in the address lines.  the 65816
has 24 lines to access 16 megs, while the 65802 has 16, like the
65c02.
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Senior ES Major, Harvard College                       irie@husc.bitnet
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: sknkwrks@sonny-boy.cs.unlv.edu (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: .QWK readers
Organization: Skunk Works Software Co.
Date: 29 Dec 92 05:12:49 GMT

In article <XXw0VB1w164w@jwt.UUCP> bbs-aphelps@jwt.UUCP (Austin Phelps) writes:
>Agate 069 for us 8 bitters (UnZip)

Unfortunately, AGATE has problems with shrunken elements...which is
usually how MESSAGES.DAT is packed if the *.QWK file is packed with
PKZIP.  If AGATE worked properly, I'd've probably finished an Apple II
QWK reader already. :-)

  _/_   Scott Alfter                             Internet: sknkwrks@cs.unlv.edu
 / v \  Call the Skunk Works BBS today!           Ask me about SoftDAC--digital
(IIGS(  (702) 894-9619 300-14400 V.32bis          audio for your Apple IIe/IIc!
 \_^_/  --==## "Apple II Forever" is a trademark of Apple Computer, Inc. ##==--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Turbo mouse
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 00:10:53 GMT

In article <C07IwD.4s@eis.calstate.edu> csokolo@eis.calstate.edu (Christopher Sokolov) writes:
> unknown@Apple.COM (Matt Ackeret) writes:
> 
> > ADB is ADB is ADB..
> > 
> 
> While this is generally true, some ADB devices designed for the Macintosh
> do not work with the Apple IIGS.  Why?  I don't know, but that is what I
> heard.  I just think it is better to be safe then sorry. :)

Any ADB keyboard or mouse equivalent for the Mac should work on the
IIgs, provided it is an exact emulation of the Apple keyboard and
mouse.  Other devices require a device driver on the Mac, and on the
IIgs.  A IIgs driver is not usually supplied with these devices.

For example, a Macintosh ADB TouchScreen will not work on a IIgs
without a driver.
An enterprising programmer should be able to write one.  The company
may be prepared to supply information on the register layout of the
device, or the Mac driver could be disassembled to get this information.


Someone else made a comment about certain keys on extended keyboards
"not working" on the IIgs.  All extended keyboard keys generate a
unique key code (function keys all return lowercase letters with the
"numeric keypad" bit set in the keyboard modifier register).  Software
needs to recognise these keys specially, and there aren't very many
programs that do.


Another person asked about Mac ADB modems.  This is a case in which a
device driver would be required, as well as a communications program
that could be modified to use the driver instead of standard serial
ports.
-- 
David Empson

Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand
From: 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Printing to an AppleLaserWriter LS
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:22:35 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: MuGS Research and Development Facility

The following revelation escaped Richard Sherman's lips:
> 
> In a previous article, philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) says:
> 
> >Yes, you are reading just fine. I do this all the time, and view the 
> >files on my NeXT (although lately I have been having some minor troubles
> >since moving to Postcript Level 2).
> 
> OK, how do you do it??  

    Hit Apple-F right after clicking the OK button in the LaserWriter print
dialog and a PostScript file is saved to your *:System:Drivers folder.  The
details should be in the FAQ.

--
-- Real name: Brian Tao (Dept. of Exobiology, University of Toronto)
-- Preferred: 90taobri@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca (checked daily)
-- Free Plug: =MuGS 2.0=, the only offline Internet mail reader for
--            the Apple IIGS, available soon!
From: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple II Networks
Date: 24 Dec 1992 05:45:20 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


You might ask Steve P. He calls a ProLine System in MI that is PCPable. There
are a couple here and I believe one of them in San Diego is PCPable.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
(Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0n6Hhb-0000eXC; Mon, 28 Dec 92 02: 28 PST
From: bslog@pro-scat.cts.com (Bill Logsdon)
Subject: Pointless...
Organization: ProLine [pro-scat] St. Petersburg, Florida.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 04:03:28 EST


 
the following from a Genie post:
 
 
WESTCODE                     at 14:08 EST
 
 All -
 
 re: Chciago Font ID
 
 Apparently, the Chicago font which we licensed from Apple started
 out it's life with an ID of 0, as Chicago is the System Font for the
 Macintosh (or so I've been told).  Therefore, it appears that at
 some point the font ID number was changed, and appearently
 incorrectly.  We will resolve the problem shortly.
 
 re: Pointless 2.01
 
 Pointless 2.01 corrects several cosmetic and other glitches, including:
 
 In Display mode, All Sizes, clicking in the window would show part
 of the All Characters window.
 
 Crashing of fonts in All characters Display option.
 
 Changing of Keystroke to Key in Display mode to allow more room for
 text while in 320 mode.
 
 Select All option during Add would only select the first 50 items.
 
 After adding a suitcase, the Remove button would still be dimmed.
 
 If you removed a font from your System Font family, you could have
 the stylized versions (font families) of other fonts deleted.
 
 Memory loss due to character regeneration.
 
 All orders are now shipping with v2.01.  If you have not yet received
 your copy, you will be receiving 2.01.  The Chicago font will not be
 changed on the master disk until the problem is completely resolved.
 
 Tony Gentile
 WestCode Software, Inc.
 ------------
 
so, apparently the newest Pointless is shipping...
From: huang1@husc11.harvard.edu (Howard Huang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Real Basic Questions
Date: 30 Dec 92 01:33:03 GMT
Organization: Harvard Arts and Sciences Computer Services, Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: joko@well.sf.ca.us's message of 29 Dec 92 20:29:12 GMT


>So, I'd really appreciate it if someone, or a few people, who access the
>net via their school computer, or via their work computer, could tell me
>how they access the net.

"The net" actually includes many things, such as reading news, sending
mail, getting software via FTP, connecting to remote machines, etc.
Two commercial books you might want to look into that describe many of
the resources available over Internet are:

Zen and the Art of the Internet, by Brendan Kehoe

The Whole Internet, published by O'Reilly & Associates

The first actually started out as an on-line guide, sort of like an
FAQ, before it was published.

Hope this helps!


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   Well, now the years have gone and I've grown from that seed you've sown,
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From: herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Herbert Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: comments
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 23:47:03 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Previously Robert E. Irie wrote:
[stuff deleted]
 
Granted also that they are "targetted" at different audiences, from the
Very Very Rich , Very Rich, all the way down to just plain Rich.  What
does Apple think of the Mac? A disposable computer?
 
 
Hmm. I remember a certain Dr. Lorne Walton of the Apples BC user group
mention to a fellow member that one had to be rich to own a IIGS in the
first place. As I over heard this, I couldn't help but comment that I'd
be rich if I didn't buy a GS in the first place. Over the past three and
a half years I have spent alot of money on my 2 IIGS's, in fact I could
have bought quite a fancy new sports car but I didn't. Of course not all
purchases were the best choice, (my Vulcan springs to mind). If I could
go back in time would I choose a different computer? Not a chance.
 
--
Herbert Fung                    | "Hard work doesn't make miracles,
Edmonton Remote Systems         |   Miracles just make hard work!"
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada       |       The Herbster! 1988

Herbert Fung              herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
From: joe.siegler@satalink.com (Joe Siegler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple II Networks
Date: 27 Dec 92 11:24:00 GMT
Reply-To: joe.siegler@satalink.com (Joe Siegler)
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434

To: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu

SH|I just got back from t here today. I wish I had you number at the time.
  |I guess I can call you PCP.

Steve, Usenet doesn't work like our old Apple BBS's do.   You need to 
tell us who this was meant for.  :)
---
 . 1st 1.02b #1051s . Women are like programs. A smart man keeps backups
From: diff@comtch.spk.wa.us (Rick Diffley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Comments Anyone?
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:35:52 GMT
Organization: Waffle BBS at CompuTech Spokane, Washington

Hmm, anyone CALL and ask for verification?  Not that someone at Apple 
would answer directly over the line, but ask for someone in PR...Tell
them you're a report from xxxx newspaper and you wish to followup!
 
I'm open to the possibility that the post was my Sculley...
 
Hey, I'm easy :-)
 
= Diff =

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