HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: Help!!
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 17:05:31 GMT

In article <17lkq1INN6to@agate.berkeley.edu> gezelter@sam.cchem.berkeley.edu
(Dan Gezelter) writes:
>Chuck Fry writes:

>>>ba == Bay Area (as only if in San Francisco Bay [some would say,
>>>		"In computing, is there any other [Bay]?")
		 ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>The Massachusetts Bay, of course.  Mass. is known as the Bay State.
>
>Or the "Old Bay" i.e. the Chesapeake Bay, which is larger than either
>of the other two.
>
> Northerners.  Harumph.

Hi Chuck!

Hey, I only repeat the above quote. 8^)

|From a long view of the history of mankind - seen from, say, ten thousand
|years from now, there can be little doubt that the most significant event
|of the 19th century will be judged as Maxwell's discovery of the laws of
|electrodynamics.  The American Civil War will pale into provincial
|insignificance in comparison with this important scientific event of the
|same decade.
|
|R. P. Feynman, Lectures on Physics, Vol. II, Addison-Wesley, 1964, page 1-11.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Resident Cynic, Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
Second Favorite email message: Returned mail: Cannot send message for 3 days
A Ref: Mathematics and Plausible Reasoning, vol. 1, G. Polya
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Questions about Deputy Sheriff's Association
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:43:45 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <w#bn2-h.greg@netcom.com> greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough) writes:
  
|Their tactics include responding to a "no thank you" with something
|like "So you don't wish to support law-enforcement in Santa Clara
|County?"

To which I would respond, "I already do.  I pay taxes."

-- 
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| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
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Newsgroups: ba.general
From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: Unfair business from Access computer
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:08:11 GMT

In article <p1bunk0@fido.asd.sgi.com> jeffg@loki.esd.sgi.com (Jeff C. Glover) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.190926.4461@PacBell.COM> John P. Gloria writes
>in response to my article:
>    >The point being made was in reference to a monitor and the subsequent
>    >mis-handling in the original poster's viewpoint.  He stated there was
>    >a problem and it was not handled in a business-like-manner.  Your point,
>    >as stated has nothing to do with returning an item or an item's warranty.
>    >A company can excel in an area as you pointed out, but try to have an
>    >item serviced, exchanged, or obtain a refund is another story.
>
>In article <p136u3g@fido.asd.sgi.com> I had written:
>    >My experience with Access Computer Technologies has been nothing but
>    >great!  I've got several items from them, the latest being a Panasonic
>    >printer.
>    >...
>    >Just another data point...
>
>OK then, let's take a service item.  I had a drive go bad.  It was out
>of warrenty, and I had no hope of exchanging it.  I brought it in
>nonetheless, and they first suggested the services of one of the local
>disk drive repair shops.  However, upon inspection of their records,
>the drive was one of a bad batch they had received.
>
>It was exchanged at no cost.  Even out of warranty, and without
>resorting to "manufacturer" warranty.
>
>It is still running fine to this day.
>
>Jeff

Great! Most excellent!  I often wonder though how this type of
excellent service, as in your case, is determinant in large by
who handles the problem/complaint and the customer's attitude;
the customer's dress; the employee's biases, etc.  I have received
excellent service from Nordstrom's (in the Pleasanton Mall)
when returning items, but in particular from the employee's who know 
me.  No questions asked, no receipts, etc.  At other times, I have gone 
to the same store and an employee who does not know me has given me some 
minor hassles,i.e., do you have a receipt, can I see your driver's
license, etc., and I have had to be very assertive with them.

I still think the other poster had a legitimate gripe.  It could
be the result of mis-communicating on both sides.
-- 
        ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
 		"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination
	       is out of focus."   -     Mark Twain
From: kheller@pyrtech.mis.pyramid.com (Kimberly Louie)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Questions about Deputy Sheriff's Association
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:08:47 GMT
Reply-To: kheller@pyrtech.pyramid.com (Kimberly Louie)
Distribution: ba
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA
Originator: daemon@sword.eng.pyramid.com

In article <1992Aug25.054259.21048@Synopsys.Com> arnold@mango.synopsys.com (Arnold de Leon) writes:
>
>Has anyone heard of the "Deputy Sheriff's Assocation of
>Santa Clara Country"?
>

After having read some of the other posts about this organization,
I decided to post rather than email my story.

I got a call from them last year.  The person calling asked for
a "Mrs. Jones".  When I told them they had a wrong number, the
man on the other end broke into a song and dance scheme about how
this was Mrs. Jones number last year and she gave to the Deputy
Sheriff......Org. when they asked for donations.  (My gut reaction
was, "So go call Mrs. Jones".)  But being polite, I explained
that I wasn't interested.  I was hit with the usual "so you don't
support your local police?" guilt trip.  I ignored it because I've
dealt with a much ruder person calling on behalf of another police
department when I lived in Phoenix.  I don't have a problem with hanging
up on these type of calls anymore, but I do try to be polite.

I had also heard on the news that a lot of times the money collected
goes towards political campaigns and other such functions.  Maybe this
is what another poster was referring to when they made a reference to a PAC
organization.  All I know is that if I'm going to be giving money
to an organization, I'd like to know enough about the organization
to know that the cause is truly supported and not a ploy for my sympathy.
I don't trust the police/sherrif's departments concerning these issues.

However, my husband was called by the Fireman's Organization (I forget the
exact name - but it's the firefighters) about a benefit family show
they are putting on.  I don't know where the money is going or if they
will use it for prizes.  It seems this is an entertainment event they
are selling tickets for.  We were supposed to get tickets and send the
money back on an "honor" system.  Instead, we got a bill.  (I don't think
the paper we were sent will let us in, so technically, we didn't get the
tickets.)  The bill was filed in the circular basket.

I suppose all of this is a sad commentary on our public employees.
It's really a shame.
From: sbiggs@netcom.com (Stuart Biggs)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Eric Clapton Tickets
Summary: Eric Clapton tickets to trade
Keywords: Eric Clapton
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:53:12 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

I have two tickets to the Eric Clapton concert this Friday night.
I'd like to trade for tickets on Thursday night to the same
concert. They are lawn seats. My phone number is 415-903-8821

Thanks

Stuart Biggs
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: jeffg@loki.esd.sgi.com (Jeff C. Glover)
Subject: Re: Unfair business from Access computer
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:33:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.190926.4461@PacBell.COM> John P. Gloria writes
in response to my article:
    >The point being made was in reference to a monitor and the subsequent
    >mis-handling in the original poster's viewpoint.  He stated there was
    >a problem and it was not handled in a business-like-manner.  Your point,
    >as stated has nothing to do with returning an item or an item's warranty.
    >A company can excel in an area as you pointed out, but try to have an
    >item serviced, exchanged, or obtain a refund is another story.

In article <p136u3g@fido.asd.sgi.com> I had written:
    >My experience with Access Computer Technologies has been nothing but
    >great!  I've got several items from them, the latest being a Panasonic
    >printer.
    >...
    >Just another data point...

OK then, let's take a service item.  I had a drive go bad.  It was out
of warrenty, and I had no hope of exchanging it.  I brought it in
nonetheless, and they first suggested the services of one of the local
disk drive repair shops.  However, upon inspection of their records,
the drive was one of a bad batch they had received.

It was exchanged at no cost.  Even out of warranty, and without
resorting to "manufacturer" warranty.

It is still running fine to this day.

Jeff
From: billd@informix.com (William Daul)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: OCT 3rd Benefit:  MacArthur's Park Wine Tasting
Date: 4 Sep 92 06:36:03 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.
Originator: billd@cheetah

BENEFIT:  MacArthur Park's 11th Annual Wine Festival
====================================================

Two hundred great wines from eighty-five wineries!

Taste over 200 great wines from 85 of California's most prestigious wineries
enjoy MacArthur Park's oakwood-smoked baby back ribs, mesquite
charcoal-grilled meats, homemade sausages, fresh fruit, and an array of
cheeses.  Non-alcoholic beverages also featured.  Listen to live music. Bid
at a silent auction for spectacular wine items, including imperials and
jeroboams.  But, most of all, have a great time.

Proceeds will benefit the senior day health program of Palo Alto, one of
the programs of the senior coordinating council of the Palo Alto Area, Inc.

Saturday, October 3, 1992 from 11:30 AM to 3:00 PM at MacArthur Park
Restaurant, 27 University Avenue, Palo Also.  Call MacArthur Park at
415.321.9990 or mail in the coupon.

---------------------- CUT HERE ----------------------------- 

MACARTHUR PARK WINE FESTIVAL


Yes, I would like to attend.  Please send me ____

tickets at $35 each.  Enclosed is a check for $________

made payable to MacArthur Park Wine Festival.  Tickets 

are tax deductible to the extent allowed by law.



Please mail to:

MacArthur Park Wine Festival
27 University Avenue
Palo Alto, CA  94301


___________________________________________
NAME 


___________________________________________
ADDRESS 


___________________________________________
CITY                  STATE         ZIP

(   )
___________________________________________
PHONE
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Newsgroups: ba.general
From: whheydt@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Wilson Heydt)
Subject: Re: Help!!
Reply-To: whheydt@PacBell.COM (Wilson Heydt)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:11:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.161538.15307@kronos.arc.nasa.gov> chucko@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Chuck Fry) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.155413.8484@nas.nasa.gov> eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug27.174308.1@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu>
>>cvagmscz@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu writes:
>>>explain what the word alt.xxx.xxxx or ba.xxx.xxxx
>...
>>ba == Bay Area (as only if in San Francisco Bay [some would say,
>>		"In computing, is there any other [Bay]?")
>
>The Massachusetts Bay, of course.  Mass. is known as the Bay State.

In that case . . .  Is there a Massachusettes hierarchy that starts
with 'bs' . . . ?    :-)

	--Hal
-- 
Hal Heydt                    |    "Boycott Time-Warner"
Analyst, Pacific*Bell        |         --J. Danforth Quayle
510-823-5447                 |    "... kill all the lawyers."
whheydt@pbhya.PacBell.COM    |         --William Shakespeare
From: rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Hayward
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:54:57 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link


Is there anything of interest to see or do in Hayward? I have been
going to school at CSUH for a year and all I've seen is the
area along Foothill and Mission which is mostly chain businesses.
Are there any decent places to eat around the campus?
-- 
Robert Chao
Oakland, California
From: gezelter@sam.cchem.berkeley.edu (Dan Gezelter)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Help!!
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:38:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: sam.cchem.berkeley.edu

Chuck Fry writes:

>>cvagmscz@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu writes:
>>>explain what the word alt.xxx.xxxx or ba.xxx.xxxx
>...
>>ba == Bay Area (as only if in San Francisco Bay [some would say,
>>		"In computing, is there any other [Bay]?")
>
>The Massachusetts Bay, of course.  Mass. is known as the Bay State.

Or the "Old Bay" i.e. the Chesapeake Bay, which is larger than either
of the other two.

 Northerners.  Harumph.
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Newsgroups: netcom.general,ba.general
From: joelfire@leland.Stanford.EDU ( Firehammer)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Bay Area street map database
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 22:38:10 GMT

If there is a reply to this, could you please post this info, I'm sure
alot of people would be interested.
From: gtchen@glacier.berkeley.edu (George Chen)
Newsgroups: ba.general,ba.singles
Subject: Bed and Breakfast
Date: 28 Aug 1992 02:27:44 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
NNTP-Posting-Host: glacier.berkeley.edu

I'm looking for a bed & breakfast inn (or actually any
cozy inn) in the north bay area.  Any recommendations?
Any prices?

Thanks

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From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: To Everyone Giving Away Pets!
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:28:59 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA
Originator: daemon@sword.eng.pyramid.com

In article <29761@goofy.Apple.COM> vlb@apple.COM (Vicki Brown) writes:
>
>Sometimes animal research just gives more information about animal physiology.
>
   So, you are volunteering to be a HUMAN experimental subject?

   Seriously, most researchers are aware that lab rats are poor
   models of human physiology other than for lawyers, politicians,
   etc.  Pigs are better in some areas, monkeys in others, but
   neither of these grows very fast and are more expensive to
   maintain.  And for some tests, you want life cycle results.

   But also a lot of researchers use live animals just out of
   intellectual laziness...their predecessors used them and they
   haven't the initiative to see if computer modelling or other
   alternatives can't reduce SOME of the need for live testing.
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: raycroft@erg.sri.com (Terry D. Raycroft)
Subject: Information on the Computer Learning Center
Originator: raycroft@horse.erg.sri.com
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 22:14:43 GMT



I have a friend who is in need of vocational training in the computer
field.  She is looking into the Computer Learning Center in San Jose.
The course is six months and quite expensive (grants and loans are
available).  Does anybody have first-hand knowledge, or know of somebody
who has, about the actual courses they teach and the assistance they
give you in job hunting?  I guess my question is, is the concentrated
course worth the money or can you get just as much from a college such
as De Anza?  Thanks in advance for any information you can give me.  

Terry Raycroft
raycroft@erg.sri.com 
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: pss@zort.asd.sgi.com (Paul S. Strauss)
Subject: Re: Hayward
Keywords: n
Reply-To: pss@sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:38:25 GMT

Some restaurant recommendations:
	Payathai, on B Street (some of the best Thai food anywhere)
	Hop Singh on Mission (Vietnamese)
	Caravan on Mission (Afghan)

	and don't forget Emil Villa's if you want mass quantities
	of meat!

----
Paul S. Strauss		pss@sgi.com	Silicon Graphics Computer Systems

  "A horse walked into a bar, and the bartender said, "Why the long face?,"
   and the horse kicked him to death. True story."  - Allan Havey
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: atchang@oracle.uucp (Ana Chang)
Subject: Re: Honest Mechanic Recommendation
Keywords: mechanic
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:23:55 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.
From: mari@carbon.amd.com (Mari Ngo)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Any good/bad experience with T and T Furniture Showroom
Date: 28 Aug 92 23:26:24 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Santa Clara, CA

Greetings!

I'm planning on buying a Dinette Set from them, and I'd like to
know, how reliable they are as far delivering the merchandise on
time.  Thanks in advance.

Mari Ngo
From: flemmon@lemmon.auspex.com (Frank Lemmon)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: List of Relief Agencies
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:18:13 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

This year has been a tough one for some folks.

For those who would like to send help to the victims of Hurricane
Andrew, the famine in Somalia, or to ease food shortages in
Bosnia-Herzegovina, here is a list of relief agencies that appeared in
USA Today recently.

Be sure to designate your check accordingly; for example: "Hurricane
Andrew Relief".

American Red Cross
P.O. Box 37243
Washington, DC 20013

AmeriCares
161 Cherry St.
New Canaan, Conn. 06830

CARE
660 First Ave.
New York, NY 10016

Church World Service
Box 968
Elkhart, Ind. 46515

Doctors Without Borders
30 Rockefeller Plaza, Suite 5425
New York, NY 10112

International Medical Corps
5933 West Century Blvd., Suite 310
Los Angeles, CA 90045

Lutheran World Relief
390 Park Ave. South
New York, NY 10016-8803

Oxfam America
115 Broadway
Boston, MA 02116

Presiding Bishop's Fund for World Relief
Episcopal Church
815 Second Ave.
New York, NY 10017

Save the Children
54 Wilton Road
Westport, Conn. 06880

U.S. Committee for UNICEF
331 East 38th St.
New York, NY 10016

World Concern
Box 33000
Seattle, WA 98133
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: gwu@nujoizey.tcs.com (George Wu)
Subject: Re: Questions about Deputy Sheriff's Association
Organization: Teknekron Communications Systems Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:55:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.054259.21048@Synopsys.Com>, arnold@mango.synopsys.com (Arnold de Leon) writes:
> 
> Has anyone heard of the "Deputy Sheriff's Assocation of
> Santa Clara Country"?
> 
> I got a phone call from them about a "Family Variety
> Show" for good cause.  I think it was about sick kids.
> They were selling tickets for the show.
> I regained enough sense to not give a credit card #
> on the spot.  I got them to mail me the stuff instead.
> 
> Now I want to make sure these is legitimate cause.
> The invoice says the show is sponsored by the
> "Deputy Sheriff's Association of Santa Clara County,
> Political action Committee  #871251".
> 
> I don't want to donate money to a PAC that I know virtually
> nothing about.    The invoice also says something about
> "Your support helps the Deputy Sheriffs' Assocciation of
> Santa Clara County publish and distribute this life
> saving manual.  You are a true friend of law enforcement".
> But I thought I was helping sick kids, I don't even know
> what manual they are referring to.

     I don't know anything about this organization in particular, but
there is a consumer warning out concerning telephone solicitors claiming
to be or to represent law enforcement officials.  Apparently, some rather
shady operations have "leased" (for lack of a better term) the name of
a law enforcement agency to be invoked during telephone solicitations.
Said operators typically keep a very large percentage of the money they
collect, with little of it ever really reaching the named charity.

							George

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Newsgroups: netcom.general,ba.general
From: kemnitz@netcom.com (Greg Kemnitz)
Subject: Wanted: Bay Area street map database
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 21:57:55 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

Does anyone know how I can get "on-line" road map information, suitable for
use in a database, for accurate display, and for search algorithms?  Any
vector format is fine, as long as I know what it is.  Thanks.

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kemnitz@netcom.com                  | of VMS manuals" :-)
                                    |
                                    | --A friend at DEC Palo Alto in the Quake
From: joe@synaptx.Synaptics.Com (Joe Decker)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Century Plant Removal, Help!
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:15:16 GMT
Reply-To: joe@synaptics.com (Joe Decker)
Distribution: ba
Organization: Synaptics Inc., San Jose, CA

I have a century plant that bloomed a year and a half ago.  It needs
to be taken down.  Various tree removal & landscaping places have said
"we won't do that."  I'm looking for a pointer to someone who's had
this done.  In a short time, the stalk will become a safety hazard...

Please reply via E-mail (joe@synaptics.com, decker@caltech.alumni.edu)

Thanks!   -Joe Decker
From: reid@pa.dec.com (Brian Reid)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: optometrist and optician in Palo Alto?
Date: 4 Sep 92 02:23:16 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: DEC Network Systems Laboratory

In article <19ln=yb.seifert@netcom.com> seifert@netcom.com (Rich Seifert) writes:
>I STRONGLY recommend Wilby Optical in the Town+Country center on
>Embarcadero and El Camino. I have never had anything but good
>service. They are a bit "old-fashioned" (not a one-hour shop),
>but I like that. I have bought many pairs of glasses there over the
>years.

I concur absolutely. I have an extremely odd prescription that takes a great
deal of skill to make properly (9-diopter prisms and 3-diopter cylindrical
correction superimposed on the standard spherical stuff). I've bought at
least 2 pairs of glasses at every optician in Palo Alto and Menlo Park. Wilby
is by far the best. Virtually all of the other shops have made my
prescription wrong at least once; there's a shop in downtown Palo Alto that,
in 1985 or so, made a pair wrong 9 consecutive times.

The one thing Wilby isn't is rapid, but they are thorough, accurate, and
professional.

Actually, I'm old enough now to need bifocals, and my previous eye doctor
once told me that it would be risky because the bifocals would be so complex
that nobody could make them reliably. I'm tempted to give Wilby a shot at
it.