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From: michals@fuw.edu.pl (Michal Szleper)
Subject: Polska liga, round 3
Summary: Wyniki 3. rundy
Organization: Warsaw University Physics Dept.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 09:12:53 GMT

Round 3 of Polish League (Wednesday, August 19th)

 1) SZOMBIERKI BYTOM - GKS KATOWICE  0:3 (0:1)
                       Wolny        '34
                       Wolny        '65
                       Swierczewski '89

 
 2) LECH POZNAN - GORNIK ZABRZE  5:0 (3:0) !!
    Trzeciak     '18
    Podbrozny    '31
    Podbrozny    '41
    Araszkiewicz '66
    Podbrozny    '89


 3) ZAWISZA BYDGOSZCZ - SLA,SK WROCL~AW  0:0

 
 4) L~KS L~ODZ - RUCH CHORZOW  2:1 (1:1)
    Pl~uciennik  '34     Fornalak   '43 (penalty)
    Krysiak      '67


 5) SIARKA TARNOBRZEG - STAL MIELEC  2:2 (1:1)
    Kucharski     '3     Drozdz     '28
    Sadowski     '62     Curzytek   '90


 6) POGON SZCZECIN - WIDZEW L~ODZ  1:1 (0:1)
    Szubert      '50     Koniarek   '20


 7) ZAGL~E,BIE LUBIN - OLIMPIA POZNAN  2:0 (0:0)
    Jasinski     '51
    Dylus        '86


 8) JAGIELLONIA BIAL~YSTOK - LEGIA WARSZAWA  3:1 (0:1) !!
    Gl~e,bocki   '60         Sliwowski    '35
    Szeliga      '82
    Szugzda      '84


 9) WISL~A KRAKOW - HUTNIK KRAKOW  1:1 (1:1)
    Swie,tek      '9         Hajto       '43


Table:
======
 Team           Points     Goals
---------------------------------
 1. Lech          6-0       11:2
 2. Widzew        5-1        4:2
 3. Hutnik        4-2        6:3
    Ruch          4-2        6:3
 5. Zagl~e,bie    4-2        5:4
 6. L~KS          4-2        4:3
 7. Jagiellonia   3-3        5:4
    Siarka        3-3        5:4
 9. Wisl~a        3-3        4:3
10. Legia         3-3        4:4
11. Katowice      2-2        4:3
12. Zawisza       2-4        3:4
13. Sla,sk        2-4        4:6
14. Stal          2-4        3:5
15. Gornik        2-2        3:6
16. Szombierki    1-5        3:7
17. Olimpia       1-5        1:6
18. Pogon         1-5        1:7

Cheers!

P.S. Does anybody read this? Waiting for your answer.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: mikec@unixg.ubc.ca (Michael Cherkassoff)
Subject: Re: World Cups 1930-1990 (was Wanted)
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 06:21:33 GMT

In <1992Aug21.010054.21273@daimi.aau.dk> rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen) writes:

>archer@hsi.com (Garry Archer) writes:

>>	(No third-place game.  Semi-finals were:
>>	 Argentina 6, USA 1   and   Uruguay 6, Yugoslavia 1)

>USA was awarded the third place as Yugoslavia didn't turn op to the
>third place match. That was the first and so far only medal (are they
>given bronze medals?) for a team not from Europe or South America.

Well, they actually give gold medals, goldened medals(if it's the right
word), silver medals - for the third place, and bronze medals for
the fourth.

Cheers,

Michael.

>Jesper Lauridsen      | Bramming Boldklub - eh ...
>rorschak@daimi.aau.dk |
>      Glasgow Rangers - AC Milan - FC Barcelona
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 12:09:19 -0400 
From: Saverio Cittadini <sc4n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Latest on Maradona

Latest news on Maradona: Napoli's president Ferlaino has rejected the
conditions that Diego required for coming back to Napoli, judging almost
all of them unacceptable. Maradona said that, at this point, there are
no more chances that he will return, and that he wants to play for
another team (perhaps Sevilla, according to the papers).
Likely, now, FIFA will once again increase their pressure on Napoli for
convincing the club to release Maradona; but Ferlaino insists that they
will not.

As for Francis's consideration, let me just clarify a point. When I wrote
about "using Maradona's name to increase soccer popularity in the US in
view of the '94 WC", that was not what *I* was thinking. That's what I
thought that Blatter & C. may be thinking. I don't have a good opinion of
Blatter anyway...

                     Saverio

e-mail: CITTADINI@SIVAX.CINECA.IT
"The sky is light-blue, since God is a Napoli fan"
V I N C I   P E R   N O I   M A G I C O   N A P O L I  !!!
From: clgp14@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Perfect Match(joke)
Date: 13 Aug 92 09:25:54 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

This joke appearedin a copy of " ELECTRIC SOUP " a few months back and I
thought that I would share it with you.

PERFECT MATCH
Some years ago the Queen and the Pope were sitting side by side as V.I.P.s
at a Rangers v Celtic cup final at Hampden Park in Glasgow.The Queen told
the Pope that the 100,000 crowd were her loyal subjects who adored her
every action.The Pope smiled and suggested that at a simple signal from him
half of the crowd would go crazy and call out his name. The Queen bid him
to and he blessed the right hand side of the crowd and they went into a frenzy.
The Queen then spoke and told the Pope that she was quite impressed but that
with a single movement of her head she could have the whole contingent at fever
pitch. The Pope dared her, she head-butted him and the whole crowd went
fucking mental.

From "Billy Pope's Papal_Proddy Probing Page."

Ian Davis
From: pampa@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (ruben.a.mazzulla)
Subject: Re: *** MARADONA (present & future) ***
Keywords: god bless south-american soccer!
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 23:56:42 GMT



> re: "Napoli can play tough: let Diego sit out the remaining year and..."

and get each executive creamed by the angry mob!!  :-))))



> re: "I can not understand why it is OK for Diego to sit out and play
       mini-soccer and not OK for Napoli to cling to his contract."

                        * * *  2 powerfull reasons  * * *

i got this from a very realiable source in club boca junior of argentina:

diego's: he's very `anxious' about maffia's reaction if he goes back to 
         italy.  diego made very nasty comments about this organization 
         several times and attacked them openly from buenos aires city.  
         now this `organization' feels itself for first time under attack 
         by the italian authorities and their are trying to gain the 'lost
         respect' the old fashioned way, by killing judges, lawyers, & all
         those that confront them.  so, maradona is very aware that the 
         chances of being `taken for a ride' are high, (that's why he 
         recuested to train alone, a house outside of the city, etc.) and
         even when he could get a good bunch of bodyguards, he feels that
         his family may be in jeopardy ...or forced to live as prisoners 
         of their own security system.
         [note: none would enjoy living this way having other options.]

napoli's: the club owner, mr. ferlaino bases his position in the fact that
          napoli gave diego money in advance assuming he'd comeback and
          they could use his popularity to launch a stadium expansion
          campaign (estimated in $27M). the bonuses are already printed 
          w/ maradona's face in the reverse (also the tv commercials have
          been produced and paid, the contract with the distribution co.
          signed, the construction companies hired, plus other expenses).
          if maradona doesn't comeback, then mr. ferlaino faces 2 options:
          (1), start looking for another player, someone for whom naples' 
          people can feel the same devotion (this it may take him `a good 
          bunch of years'; or (2), cancel the project all together and 
          swallow the loses.
          [note: he doesn't have much room to negotiate, either.]

among other things probably less important, these are the main reasons
that have produced this `kafkanic' situation that has the world waiting.


ruben mazzulla

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: c9106863@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (LORD MICK HAS SUMMONED YOU...)
Subject: Re: Australian players to Europe.
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:33:08 GMT

 
> I read in a dutch paper that a guy called Jason van Blerk (24) has signed for
> a dutch team: Go Ahead Eagles, First Division, from Deventer. According
> to the paper he played 13 times for Australian National team.
> 
> louis kossen
> 
> -- 

Which club?

This makes sense since his local club Apia has folded because it went 
bankrupt. Van Blerk also said that he would be going overseas when the club
went bust.

He is a speedy left winger/midfielder/fullback with much pace and skill, but
lacking a bit in ball control. He should be an asset to whatever club he
signs for.

Mick
From: t-frans@microsoft.com (Francis Stanisci)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: The BIG SURVEY!!!
Date: 14 Aug 1992 12:14:32 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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OK, I've had enough of this Maradona crap.

List in order of importance what you think are the things that make a 
world class player, or put another way what makes a player the best.  
I'll start with the following;

Fair player.
Team player, not a soloist.
Skill, i.e. entertaining.
Contributions to the sport.
Personal statistics.
Coaching.
Other successes.

I will compile my complete personal list later, but here's a start, in 
no particular order.

1.  Pele
2.  Franz Beckenbauer
3.  Kruiff
4.  Dino Zoff
5.  Gordon Banks

Pick your criteria, then pick your players.  They can be professional 
or non, however I would like the focus to be on professionals due to 
there influence.

Thanks for participating! :-)

Francis.
From: coyle@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: N. Forest v Liverpool result please
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:28:24 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Can someone please post the result of the Nottingham Forest v Liverpool
match.  If possible some comments would also be appreciated.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: ccziec@vax.nott.ac.uk (Stuart Pearce's left foot)
Subject: Maidstone United
Reply-To: ccziec@vax.nott.ac.uk (Stuart Pearce's left foot)
Organization: University of Nottingham, UK
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 08:37:10 BST

Maidstone United yesterday (17th Aug) resigned from the football league
with debts of 650,000 +  The football league says they are going to re-draw
the 3rd division fixture list, which should cause plenty of chaos, and render
all printed fixture lists useless. I'm sure there is someone in a better
posistion on the net to give Maidstone a proper send-off, but here's a full
list of clubs that have left the football league for one reason or another.

1951  New Brighton
1960  Gateshead
1962  Accrington Stanley
1970  Bradford Park Avenue
1972  Barrow
1977  Workington
1978  Southport
1987  Lincoln City  (now back)
1988  Newport County
1989  Darlington  (now back)
1990  Colchester United (now back)
1992  Aldershot
1992  Maidstone United

On a totally unrelated subject, I saw on breakfast news this morning that
Arsenal are going to alter their mural, after complaints from many quarters
that there are no black or ethnic minority faces shown in the crowd. There
are probably no away fans shown either.

Cheers - Ian

     /~~^~~\      Nottingham Forest supporter through all times
   /~~\   /~~\
 /~~\       /~~\  Forest mailing list send request to
 (             )           nffc-request@uk.ac.nott.ccc.vme
  (____/ \____)   Berwick Rangers for Scottish division 2 Champs sometime!
       | |
 /----\| |/----\  email: Ian_Copping@uk.ac.nottingham.ccc.vme
 /----\___/----\
 /----\___/----\  You never close your eyes any more....
   F O R E S T
From: mazzarel@spam.berkeley.edu (Ariel Mazzarelli)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Reply To Senior Carlos'
Date: 18 Aug 1992 08:48:01 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
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Ok,  so first you write up some list of great football player/coaches and
deliberately exclude Diego (yet include two goalkeepers; you are gonna need
two when you play against him!).  Then you write up a little table of world
cup titles and Argentina only gets one. 

I get it.  Diego,  and all his accomplishments,  just don't exist in your
memory banks,  right?

Ok,  here's one more entry for your personal tables.  Total national 
championships,  Italy:

Napoli: 0.

Sweet dreams,  Francis.

Ariel
From: dvlkhh@cs.umu.se
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Denmark: Superliga round 1
Date: 15 Aug 1992 11:17:26 -0500
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Excellent as usual, Lars!

What nationality has Alphonse Tchami?

Kent
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: archer@hsi.com (Garry Archer)
Subject: Re: Did New Zealand really beat Scotland in 1982 ???        
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford CT
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:42:42 GMT

In article <mikec.714208042@unixg.ubc.ca> mikec@unixg.ubc.ca (Michael Cherkassoff) writes:
<In <1992Aug19.011121.17716@CS.ORST.EDU> visconm@fog.CS.ORST.EDU (Marcello Visconti) writes:
<
<>For ex, in 1982 South America had 4 hard spots: Brasil, Argentina, Chile 
<>and Peru, and some European team was defeated by New Zealand who attended
<>the Cup.
<
<The group with New Zealand in 1982 consisted Brasil, USSR, Scotland and
<New Zealand. New Zealand did not qualify for the second round. USSR
<has beaten them 3-0, so the only possibility for what you're saying
<is true is that New Zealand has beaten Scotland, which I doubt.
<Somebody to clear it, please ?


        Group 6, World Cup, Spain, 1982:

	Brasil		2,	USSR		1	(HT 0-1)
	Scotland	5,	New Zealand	2	(HT 3-0)
	Brasil		4,	Scotland	1	(HT 1-1)
	USSR		3,	New Zealand	0	(HT 1-0)
	USSR		2,	Scotland	2	(HT 0-1)
	Brasil		4,	New Zealand	0	(HT 2-0)


			P  W  D  L   F  A  Pts
	Brasil		3  3  0  0  10  2  6
	USSR		3  1  1  1   6  4  3
	Scotland	3  1  1  1   8  8  3
	New Zealand	3  0  0  3   2 12  0



-- 
|                     Garry Archer Esq.     archer@hsi.com                     |
|                                                                              |
=========| Gresley Rovers Football Club ("The Moatmen"), founded 1882 |=========
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: archer@hsi.com (Garry Archer)
Subject: Re: US Under 20's Romp in Belgium
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford CT
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:01:22 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.120941.27946@europa.asd.contel.com> andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa) writes:
<The US Under 20;s won all five of their games by an aggragate of 18-1.
<
<US 6 Sprintmont(France) 0
<US 2 AS Herstal(Belgium) 0
<US 3 RWD Molenbeek (Belgium) 1
<US 3 Villeneuve (France) 0
<US 4 KRC Genk (Belgium) 0
<
<The core of this team is the same team that came in 5th in the U17 World
<Cup last year.

Impressive.

I'm hoping some of these youngsters make the first team squad for 1994!  
Then maybe some folks will finally realise the USA isn't _that_ far behind 
as the rest of the world seem to think!


-- 
Garry Archer Esq.	archer@hsi.com
3M Health Information Systems,	Wallingford, Connecticut, U.S.A.

"An Englishman never enjoys himself, except for a noble purpose." - A.P.Herbert
From: stuartw@spider.co.uk (Stuart Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: pass-to-goalkeeper game situation
Date: 13 Aug 92 11:43:39 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

>
>>>  In addition, was there misconduct?
>>>
>>>  A)  No foul, no misconduct.
>>>  B)  Just a foul, no further penalty.
>>>  C)  Ungentlemanly conduct by the keeper: caution, yellow card.
>>>  D)  Serious foul play by the keeper: send-off, red card.
>
>>I'm not sure of the correct technical answer but surely this is no better
>>than an outfield player handling to stop a goal so I would think D. It will
>>be interesting to see what the referee awards if this ever happens.
>
>It *is* different from an outfield player handling. FIFA's interpretation
>of handling to prevent a sure goal specifically excludes the goalkeeper from
>Unless they come out with a new ruling then it's just a foul, no further penalty

The rule doesn't exclude the goalie, it's just that when the rule was 
introduced there was no ban on pass backs. In fact if a goalie deliberately
handles outside the box to stop a goal he is sent off. Surely he should also
be sent off for deliberately and illegally handling inside the box also. It
makes no sense otherwise.

Stuart Wilson.
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From: andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa)
Subject: Snow goes Div 1
Organization: GTE Contel Federal Systems
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:00:18 GMT

Steve Snow has just made it to division 1 soccer for the first time.  The
leading scorer on the US side in the Olympics has been loaned to FC Boom
for one year.

Andy
From: dvlkhh@cs.umu.se
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Papin
Date: 14 Aug 1992 12:46:20 -0500
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> In article <Bsvwro.Eq0@ecf.toronto.edu> yewhin@ecf.toronto.edu (YEW HIN Jimmy) writes:
> >Since J.P. Papin is going to play for AC Milan this year, they will have four
> >foreign players. Can anybody tell me who is leaving among the three dutch.
> 
> i heard on the news Gullit may be leaving for Marseille. Can anybody confirm
> that. 
Haven't heard this. I thought Savicevic was the player Tapie wanted from Milan.
PSG on the other hand wants Gullit.
>The Yugoslav who was suppose to leave , in the Papin deal refused to
> go to Marseille.
Marseille didn't want him, either.

Kent
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From: coon@convex.com (Rich Coon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: FIFA Rule for USA Colleges
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:32:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: convex.1992Aug19.203239.27374
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

I recently attended a NISOA clinic to get ready for the upcoming season, and was
told that 4 year schools (NCAC) will not be implementing the new rulings this
season.

I don't know about the 2 year schools.  They typically follow FIFA, not NCAA.

I've got my first tournament (I ref) with the New Rules this weekend, 
and I should be in the middle on (4) Under 17 boys games.  We have been 
instructed to enforce them.  This is going to be a fun weekend...;-)



Rich Coon
(Whistle carrier)
From: andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Two More Americans Go Overseas
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:30:04 GMT
Organization: GTE Contel Federal Systems
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Matt McKenna, a 19 year old goalie from Florida, has signed a contract with
VfL Osnabrueck of the German Second Division.  He is presently the backup
goalie.

NC State star Henry Gutierrez has signed with Rennes in the French Second
Division.  Henry is 23 years old.

Andy

ps  Someday I might compile a list of all the US players abroad.  If anyone
knows of people, besides the obvious Tab, Harksey, Roy, Dooley, Wynalda,
Stewert, Bliss, Keller, Snow, and Sullivan please post or email me. I know
there is about ten more floating around our planet making a living out of
soccer.
From: mazzarel@spam.berkeley.edu (Ariel Mazzarelli)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Uruguay (WAS:FIFA propoesed changes to (OCEANIA) Southern America
Date: 19 Aug 1992 06:23:21 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
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In article <16rr9eINN8qp@agate.berkeley.edu> 160955r@garnet.berkeley.edu () writes:
>In article <16rjsdINN79u@agate.berkeley.edu> mazzarel@spam.berkeley.edu (Ariel Mazzarelli) writes:
>[...]
>The debate was over the right number of South American entries in the WC dra-
>wing. Objectively, it can only be estimated by looking at past performance
>in the world cup;Uruguay just does not make the cut,which should  not be 
>necessarily interpreted as "Uruguayan soccer is weak." 

Hmmm... so we'll leave Uruguay out, and let in somebody like... Scotland? USSR?
Sweden?  (no flames intended--I'm only pointing out that Uruguay performed
better than these teams in Italia '90; in Mexico, we'd say Hungary,
Scotland (again??)).

>[...]
>And, last but not least: no matter how good some Uruguayans players look in Eu-
>rope and how shinny are some of the soccer trophies Uruguay collected 60 years 
>ago, no one can seriously argue that they match Brazil or Argebtina at this
>point in time...

Copa America '87: Uruguay 1st
  "    "     '89: Uruguay 2nd

Ariel
From: scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Murray to block SSL application?
Date: 17 Aug 92 10:23:59 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, SCOTLAND.

In article <1992Aug17.102906.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> cbar26@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
> .....
>to take charge of a match involving the famous corporate eleven again.
>ensuring a large drop in profits for the business magnate and therefore no
>pocket money for Wallet Merger this week. It just isn't good for business.

What would you lot of stadium wreckers know about business - ewes can't even
get a shirt sponsor whereas companies are queuing up to sponsor Rangers and
hire out the executive boxes. There's nothing wrong about running the club as
business as it's very successful. On the other hand though, if Celtic had
been run as a business they would have went bust years ago. Cambuslang my
arse!

--
Scott Jackson
Spider Systems Limited                  NO-ONE PAUL McSTAY!!
Edinburry
Sco'lind
From: shadlin@garnet.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: US Soccer Thought
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:51:01 GMT
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Regarding Andy's comments on US Soccer, I will
be shocked if Bora stays past 1994.  He is a coach-for-hire.
He didn't stay in Mexico, he didn't stay in Costa Rica, and
I believe his official title now is not as National Team coach
but as World Cup coach.  That is, the people he purportedly
replaced (Gansler and all) run the coaching side of the USSF.
Andy, you seem to have more inside info then the rest of us,
but my impression is that neither Bora nor USSF officials would
want him to stay on.
Ken S.
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