HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Subject: Re: Spanning The Globe
Reply-To: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 06:32:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.215206.27504@rd.hydro.on.ca> jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
>In article <4236@cvbnetPrime.COM> tjohnson@atc1.UUCP (Tod J Johnson) writes:
>>From 1988 to 1990...
>>
>>*Juries awarded 67% ...ass'td stats
>>*3 out of every 4 motorcyclists make up 75% of the motorcycling population
>> while only 2 out of every 5 bicyclists make up only 40% of the bicycling
>> population.
>
>85% of all statistics quoted to prove a point are made up on the spot.

	A recent poll showed 51% of Americans to be in the majority.

	ObMoto> Time for non-fingerless gloves in the northeast!

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Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:23642 pa.forsale:1068 phl.forsale:711 rec.bicycles.soc:979
From: eyler@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Lisa Eyler)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,pa.forsale,phl.forsale,rec.bicycles.soc
Subject: Re: Mountain Frame/Fork Set for sale
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:10:14 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

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From: cpr4k@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Christian P. Roberts)
Subject: Re: 32 Winter clothing and sweat
Organization: Academic Computing Center - U.Va.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:38:35 GMT

Try Patagonia's capilene under the wool jersey suggested by
Mark Hickey.  The capilene does not seem to retain odors as
much as some of the polypropelenes.

-- 

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cpr4k@virginia.edu                University of Virginia           
(804) 982-4693                    Charlottesville, Virginia 22903
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.bicycles.marketplace,rec.bicycles.tech
From: pardo@cs.washington.edu (David Keppel)
Subject: Re: 185 mm cranks
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 23:08:14 GMT

tan@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP writes:
>[For long cranks consider TA, 150mm-200mm.]

Chainrings allegedly available from

	Mel Pinto
	Falls Church, VA
	703-237-4686

He might know how to find cranks.  Followups to
`rec.bicycles.marketplace'.

		;-D oN  ( The source r r )  Pardo
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From: chris@carnival.lbl.gov (Chris Moll)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: Carbon Fiber Frames
Keywords: n
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:52:49 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, California
NNTP-Posting-Host: carnival.lbl.gov

Renie Maycon writes: 
>I want to know what is the fastest you have ever went
59.5 mph (95.8 kmh) - still shooting for sixty.  I tend to hold back on the
road where I did that, since the speed limit is 30 mph.  (South Park Drive
for SF Bay Area residents).

Kentaro Nakamichi writes:
>To make things more exciting, what's the fastest that people have CRASHED 
>at? :-)

A friend's bike computer showed 45 mph, once we got the bike out of the tree.
This took some doing, since he was the only one tall enough to reach it,
and he was busy trying to crawl up the embankment through the shrubbery...
(This was on Redwood Road, again for SF Bay Area residents).

--
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,misc.fitness
From: mazur@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Beth Mazur)
Subject: Re: Winter Warmth: Lycra Vs. Everything else
Organization: Intermetrics Inc, Cambridge MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:29:20 GMT

In <BxGx9z.Cuw@access.digex.com> steveg@access.digex.com (Stephen Grant) writes:
>Would lycra
>be acceptable as an outdoor 'warmer', or should it be used
>in conjuction with something else?

I don't bike, but I do ski.  For years, I had done the nylon pants over
generic long underwear.  Until last year.  I finally spent the bucks
on some of those two-layer long undies--the ones with the wool blend 
outerlayer and the polyprop underlayer.  Best money I ever spent.  In
fact, I used the pants alone (with a long shirt to hide the fact they
were men's long underwear :-) rowing this fall.  

Beth Mazur                   "...life is more than a vision.  The sweetest
mazur@inmet.inmet.com         part is acting after making a decision."
...!uunet!inmet!mazur                                  -- The Indigo Girls
From: phoffman@crcvms.unl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Recumbent discussion group?
Date: 5 Nov 92 08:13:27 CST
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
NNTP-Posting-Host: crcvms.unl.edu

A month or two ago, someone from this group was nice enough to tell me about
a bunch of folks (perhaps in a listserve, perhaps not, I don't recall) who --
almost exclusively -- discuss topics pertaining to recumbent bikes. 
I'd be grateful if this fellow, or anyone else for that matter, can refresh
my memory. Please respond to: phoffman@crcvms.unl.edu
Happy cycling!

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Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:23605 rec.running:3074 misc.fitness:8267
From: lrxi00@icts01.Kodak.COM (James Nonnemacher)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.running,misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Question: Calories burned running/biking
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:35:55 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles
Distribution: na
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co

I've recently read in Bicycling that running is 5X cycling in calories burned, on the average.
However, I would think any formula would be pretty much useless if it did somehow not take into
account the individuals metabolic rate. Two equally fit persons are no doubt going to have differnet
metabolic rates, the amount of calories they burn during an equal wotkout routine is going to depend
on their individual rates at which they burn calories.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: johnr@bohra.cpg.oz.au (John Reid)
Subject: Re: Advice on winter riding
Organization: Computer Power Software
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 05:56:18 GMT

mcf@medici.trl.OZ.AU (Michael Flower) writes:

>From article <1992Nov3.035340.22427@mercury.cair.du.edu>, by mhartzel@paris.cba.du.edu (Mark_Hartzell):
>> 	It snowed today here in Denver, and I soon discovered that the  
>> snow rendered my brakes virtually useless.  Does anyone have any advice on  
>> how to remedy this problem?
>> I would appreciate you help.

>Yes, come and ride out here, we`re going into summer and it ain't snowing at all!
>:) - sorry!

>Michael Flower
>Artificial Intelligence Systems         Email:     m.flower@trl.oz.au
>Telecom Research Laboratories           Voice:     +61 3 541 6179
>Melbourne, AUSTRALIA                    Fax:       +61 3 543 8863


Failing that advice, you might change yur brake blocks. Campagnolo and
Modolo brake blocks don't mind the rain and snow. Thhey are not very cheap,
but they last a long time.

John Reid


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Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:23619 rec.motorcycles:38508
From: mack@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Gregg Mack ( Sun ))
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Spanning The Globe
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:39:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: oakhill.1992Nov6.213950.14094
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas

tjohnson@atcc5.prime.com (Tod J Johnson) writes:

>*3 out of every 4 motorcyclists make up 75% of the motorcycling population
> while only 2 out of every 5 bicyclists make up only 40% of the bicycling
> population.

Tod, I found the other statistics interesting, but what's with the one above?


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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: CMSC28@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Mark Hickey)
Subject: Re: 05 Re: Tandem Questions
Organization: Motorola
Date: 5 Nov 1992 06:47:56 CST

>>  Comments on these particular bikes?

>Never tried the Trek tandems. Santana has a questionable reputation
>for after sale service if net.opinion is to be believed. Ibis and
>Santana are (relatively) expensive for what you get.

I don't believe Santanas are expensive, given the level of workmanship
in the frames (flawless smooth lugless joints) and the performance and
handling I've gotten from my Chrono (top frame, with Deore XT / Ultegra
600 mix).  'Course, I mean not expensive relative to other quality
bikes.  The Burley tandem looks interesting, and was recommended by
Lon Haldeman....but nobody's going to mistake it for a Santana.

   Do I need a drum brake?

Not unless you plan on some serious steep downhills.  If you find
yourself controlling your speed on a long downhill with your
brakes, you should consider a drum.  If your need is speed, leave
off the boat anchor.

Mark (are you still pedalling back there?) Hickey
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.bicycles.soc
From: arpepper@math.uwaterloo.ca (Adrian Pepper)
Subject: 100 People Surveyed, top 5 answers are on the board...
Keywords: family feud
Organization: University of Waterloo Math Faculty Computing Facility, Ontario.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:51:24 GMT

100 People Surveyed, top 5 answers are on the board, and the question
was, "Name something you haven't ridden on in years":

1.  Bicycle          27
2.  Horse            20
3.  Roller Coaster   19
4.  Merry-Go-Round   13
5.  Train             7


8-(

Adrian.
arpepper@math.uwaterloo.ca
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.racing
From: shenry@cs.rice.edu (Sam Henry)
Subject: Road Race Casualties (was Re: Rollers electric shock (was re:
Organization: Rice University, Houston
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:44:44 GMT

>seanodon@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Aragorn) writes:
>
>> 
>> This summer I was in a race in Michigan City, IN.  ... there was a
>>commotion at the front and it rippled back through the pack, where I
>>was sucking wheel.  I made a comment to the guy next to me about
>>squirrely riders being dangerous.  We shortly found out that it
>>wasn't a squirrely rider, but a squirrel. The squirrel had decided
>>to cross the road just as the 35 rider pack was passing.  I never
>>did find out what happened to the squirrel, but I did catch part of
>>a sentance with the word 'tailless' :-). 
>> 

In article <g8T4TB2w165w@student.business.uwo.ca>
k3amichi@student.business.uwo.ca (Kentaro Nakamichi) stinks up the
peloton: 

>I ran over a skunk taking a corner in my first bike race.  I killed the 
>damn thing but the problem was that it sprayed my bottom bracket before 
>leaving this world.  We were 10 laps into a 50 lap criterium :-)

If you got to the front, you shouldn't have had much trouble holding
the lead.  The things some riders will do to win ...

-- 
sam henry <shenry@rice.edu>
Wanna ride?
From: stern6@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Stern)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.racing
Subject: Rollers electric shock (was re: Dismounting Rollers::::::::)
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:29:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Nov11.102928.17344
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

The rollers, as far as I can figure, make an effective Van der Graf generator.
In dry air on carpet I can build up a healthy charge, enough to disrupt radio
reception for a radius of several feet. The handlebars and brake handles are
the points of most powerful discharge.

Incidentally, the most powerful static I have ever built came when I was
riding the rollers on grass, outside. A friend was sitting in a chair near
my bars, and I thought I was going to singe a hole through his sweatshirt
with the arcs.

It's one of many hazards of the sport, I guess (certainly not the
worst). Anybody ever produce roadkill during a race or training ride?
Squirrels will usually crawl off to die quietly, I've noticed; turtles,
through no intent of their own, can take down the field.

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         Michael Stern        *  "I love children, especially when they cry,
                              *   for then someone takes them away."  
   stern6@husc.harvard.edu    *                         -Nancy Mitford
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.racing
From: mac4@cec1.wustl.edu (Miguel Angel Cotignola)
Subject: help
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:07:36 GMT

Newsgroups: rec.bicicles.marketplace
Subject: Help
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Keywords: 

Hello:

I am a student a Washington Univ. at St. Louis, we just created the W.U.
Mountain Bike and we are looking for a cool designg or picture for the shirts.
Therefore if you have a design or a picture or something else, please send to
me.  We cannot pay, because we have no money from school at for this year.  But
I promised if we choose something from what you send you will get at leat a
free shirt.

					Thank you very much
					Miguel

	address: Miguel A. Cotignola
		6515 Wydown Box 3777
		St. Louis, MO, 63105

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.racing
From: mjohnsto@jenny.shearson.com (Mike Johnston)
Subject: Re: Dismounting Rollers:::::::::
Organization: Lehman Brothers
	<nwc1-111192045136@sl-mac-11.rh.uchicago.edu>
	<BxKDD3.6Jq@javelin.sim.es.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:06:49 GMT

In article <BxKDD3.6Jq@javelin.sim.es.com> bgeer@javelin.sim.es.com (Bob Geer) writes:
   >Another way is to brace yourself and lunge forward, then move your weight
   >immediately back so that you bounce over the front roller with your rear
   >wheel safely. However, I don't recommend this at home any more than the
   >"bunny hop to the side" method. :-)

   I thought the proper technique was to set the rollers up tangential to
   a couch so you could rode off the side of the rollers, hit the breaks,
   fall over onto the couch.  If your beer, chips, & remote are suitably
   prepared, all is cool, no?

All benefits of balance improvements aside, after reading this I'm
very happy I have a 'boring' stationary trainer. The acrobatics required
to get on and off rollers seem almost life-threatening.

It may not belong here, but something similar in a recent movie just
begs to be mentioned. Joe Pesci in 'The Super' was running along on
a treadmill in his personal Gym when his father had some bad news for him.
He immediately forgot where he was and what he was doing and stopped -
ON A RUNNING TREADMILL! The resulting action was predictable but no
less hilarious. If you've seen the movie you'll know what I mean. If not,
rent it. It's a very funny movie that has nothing to do with cycling.

MJ
--
Michael R. Johnston, System Administrator	mjohnsto@shearson.com
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress
depends on the unreasonable man." - G.B. Shaw
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.racing
From: seanodon@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Aragorn)
Subject: Re: Rollers electric shock (was re: Dismounting Rollers::::::::)
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 22:21:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.102928.17344@husc3.harvard.edu> stern6@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Stern) writes:

[text deleted]

>It's one of many hazards of the sport, I guess (certainly not the
>worst). Anybody ever produce roadkill during a race or training ride?
>Squirrels will usually crawl off to die quietly, I've noticed; turtles,
>through no intent of their own, can take down the field.
>
>         Michael Stern     

This summer I was in a race in Michigan City, IN.  The course was nice
and it was right on the lake front (if you forgot to make the first
right turn, it got very wet) and to top it it was a perfect day.
Anyway, during the CAt IV's race there was a commotion at the front and
it rippled back through the pack, where I was sucking wheel.  I made a
comment to the guy next to me about squirrely riders being dangerous.
We shortly found out that it wasn't a squirrely rider, but a squirrel.
The squirrel had decided to cross the road just as the 35 rider pack was
passing.  I never did find out what happened to the squirrel, but I did
catch part of a sentance with the word 'tailless' :-).

Aragorn
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.racing
From: georged@meaddata.com (George Dibos)
Subject: Bicycle-induced roadkill (was roller dismounting)
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:57:39 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.102928.17344@husc3.harvard.edu>, stern6@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Stern) writes:
|> 
|> It's one of many hazards of the sport, I guess (certainly not the
|> worst). Anybody ever produce roadkill during a race or training ride?
|> Squirrels will usually crawl off to die quietly, I've noticed; turtles,
|> through no intent of their own, can take down the field.
|> 

Indeed it happens.  One lovely summer morning (last year) in the rolling
farm country of south-central Ohio, I was drafting a tandem at 27-28 mph
when a matched pair of Yorkshire Terriers (!) charged into the road to
(presumably) take us out...  you know Terriers.  Anyhow, before anyone
could really react we centerpunched one of them.  Neither of us fell, but
the dog was d.o.t.s.

Since my tandem friends had taken out a squirrel the previous weekend, I
threatened (in bad taste, I admit), to start stenciling little animals on
their bike's top tube, fighter ace style.
 
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.racing
From: seanodon@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Aragorn)
Subject: Re: Dismounting Rollers:::::::::
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 16:24:36 GMT

DANIEL HILL MCCAULEY writes

>I recently acquired a set of rollers.  My question is, what is the easy 
>way to get off them 

Stop pedaling? 
Fall over? 
Crash?

>without killing yourself or holding onto a stationary object.
>Thanks.
>
>-Dan McCauley (DHM1@NS2.CC.LEHIGH.EDU)

FAlling shouldn't result in death, justa lot of carpet rash and the
occasional broken bone or two ;-).

(In reality I have no clue.  You might try putting some milk crates on
either side and get off on those.)

Aragorn
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.racing
From: stahl@ipi.uni-hannover.de (Roland Stahl)
Subject: race dates 1993
Reply-To: stahl@ipi.uni-hannover.de
Organization: IPI University of Hannover
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:44:06 GMT

Hi bikers,
Recently I found the dates of all important races in 1993 (over 150 dates) in the german "tour"-magazine. I thought this might be interesting to many of you, but because I'm relatively new to Internet I don't know if somebody else already posted the 93 dates to this groop. If not and if somebody is interested in this please let me know. I'll then post the dates to rec.bicycles.racing.

rst

University of Hannover
Institute of Photogrammetry
email: stahl@.ipi.uni-hannover.de


Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.racing
From: F.Brown@massey.ac.nz (F.J. Brown)
Subject: Re: NZPost New Zealand Cycle Classic: Stage 9
Summary: NZPost Stage 9
Keywords: racing
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 02:42:12 GMT

In case there is any confusion...

Whan the report on Stage 9 referred to the race being blown apart "yesterday",
this **was** Stage 9 they were referring to (the report was copied from the
following day's paper).

Stages 10 and 11 happen Friday, the final Stage 12 on Saturday.   See you
after the weekend.

Cheers,

Frith
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