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From: charlie@uk.tele.nokia.fi (Charlie Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: The Weird List
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:58:58 GMT
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications, Cambridge, UK

> On 7 Jan 1993 19:48:58 GMT, annie@garnet.berkeley.edu  (Anne Jessop) said:

> _Track 29_: (another T.Russell/Roeg effort (they're married in real life),
> with Christopher Lloyd, Sandra Bernhart and Gary Oldman.  Sorry, this does
> not work at all.  But it is wierd.  Self-consciously wierd.  Russell is
> neglected, bored, possibly insane young wife to
> Christopher Lloyd, a dentist (I think) who can only get aroused if his
> nurse (Bernhart) spanks him to train soundtracks.He ends up dead. 


Track 29 suffered from having Dennis Potter as screenwriter...

This reminded me of a film called (I think) _Tracks_, not that there
is any other than the obvious connection. This film involves Dennis
Hopper as a soldier transporting the body of a friend across the
states by train. With slowly increasing frequency, everything
occasionally breaks down into short hallucinations as the soldier's
mind collapses, and the film is early enough that you are not certain
that Hopper's character is completely insane:-) The surprising thing
is that it's actually very well made, (despite being filmed with a
refusal for permission to film on the trains).

Others for the weird list:

_Celine and Julie Go Boating_ - 3 hours of being French and weird, and
hypnotically brilliant if you like 3 hours of being French and weird.

_Film_ - about 15 minutes of Beckett being Beckett.

_Performance_ - James Fox, Anita Pallenberg, and Mick Jagger being so
weird that Warner Brothers refused to release it for two years. This
is another Roeg film, and (but ?) is superb.


Charlie
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From: dtschett@saims.skidmore.edu (donna tschetter)
Subject: Re: Princess Bride Poster...
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
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Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:42:31 GMT

this poster is on reserve, thanks for all the replies...!
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From: s1mbm@isuvax.iastate.edu (michael bruce mcdonald)
Subject: Re: Suggestions...
Reply-To: s1mbm@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 06:19:36 GMT

In article <3974@creatures.cs.vt.edu>, sahle@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Eskinder Sahle) writes:
>
>Hi all:
>
>
>I have a taste for good, eccentric movies that create an exciting,
>interesting, funny and sometimes disgusting world of their own.
>Examples: *Brazil*, *Baghdad Cafe*, *After Hours*, *The Cook, the 
>Thief, ...*, etc.  Any other movies of that sort you can think of?
>Thanks,
>
>Ahmed B.
>--------------------------------------------------------------

Ahmed, check out *Barton Fink*, *Naked Lunch*, *Kafka*, *Night on Earth*,
and most especially *Slackers*, which I do not believe is out on video yet,
however.  Also, you might find *Poison* (as distinguished from *Poison Ivy*,
which I have not yet seen) interesting.

Cheers,
michael mcdonald
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From: hypes@boi.hp.com (Gary Hypes)
Subject: Re: Francais movies
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:26:09 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
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Any Francois Truffaunt (sp?) films, e.g., Jules & Jim.

- Gary Hypes -
From: mcsweinberg@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Movies you loved, but couldn't see more than once.
Date: 4 Jan 93 16:38:49 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

Well, I'm not sure if this is what the original poster meant..But I loved Steel
Magnolia's and Beaches and I can't watch them again they just get me too sad
maybe Magnolia's becuase Julia Roberts Character is a diabetic and so am I but
When movies are too sad sometimes I can't watch them twice.. Then there are
movies like Parenthood, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and, Star Wars
and Star Trek I've seen hundreds of times.

Rai.
In article <1286@xlnt.COM>, david@elwood.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (David
Johnson)
writes:
> There are very few movies that I can stand watching more than once.
> "Amadeus" is the only movie I can think of offhand that I
> enjoy seeing again and again.
> 
> -- 
> David Johnson
> XLNT Designs, Inc. (XDI)
> david@xlnt.com
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From: synth@deepthought.unm.edu (Synth F. Oberheim)
Subject: Re: The Player (was Re: Academy Awards)
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 20:40:18 GMT
Organization: SynthMedia Productions Ltd -- Now Appearing Nightly With DON HO
	<31DEC199210214769@utkvx1.utk.edu>
	<1993Jan01.202821.13401@microsoft.com>
	<5JAN199309004735@utkvx1.utk.edu>


takoosma@utkvx1.utk.edu (Toby Koosman) writes:

Toby> I just wonder if the pleasure of identifying the movie references
Toby> and stars causes some to rate The Player a bit higher than it
Toby> merits.

What made THE PLAYER a great movie for those who rave about it was not
simply the references and trivia ...

Toby> I thought it very entertaining-- a game played with the audience.
Toby> But as a satire on Hollywood it didn't have much bite, and I'm
Toby> afraid I didn't find the irony very subtle.  In the end, it was 
Toby> no more than clever.

To be perfectly honest, I agree that the satire itself, taken only in
terms of content, was simple and clever.  Any writer could take jabs
like that and make a clever movie.  However, what made THE PLAYER
different was in how *well* the humor and the satire was executed.
Altman's direction was perfect -- he took you from beginning to end
seamlessly and steadily with just the right amount of manipulation.
The humor was delivered in a very crafty way, not in a blunt or heavy-
handed manner.  The way the irony unfolded in parts was priceless.
And the way Altman ultimately played with the medium itself was, again,
very crafty and sly, and in my opinion, brilliant.  I just found the
film to be flawlessly and intelligently executed, and quite deserving
of a Best Picture Oscar (although I'm personally torn between it and
UNFORGIVEN).
     

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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Al Pacino for Best Actor
Date: 13 Jan 93 02:28:05 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1695@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM>, lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM 
(Linda Snow) writes:

> Sue me if I'm wrong, 
Can we settle out of court for a mil?  :)

> but I think Pacino has already won at least one Oscar.  For either 
> Serpico or The Godfather or both.  So "overdue" is a bit of a misnomer.

He was nominated 6 times, has never won.  But then neither has Clint...
I think Jack should get it though.  And to whoever said he seemed just
like himself in _Hoffa_...I just have to ask:  Whaaaaaaaaaa????

Greg Bole                                  "A twelve-gague, double-barreled, 
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu                  grenade-launcher of LOVE!"
                                           Steve Martin in _Leap of Faith_
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.autos
From: daveb@Ingres.COM (Dave Brower, DBMS hack, [510] 748-3418)
Subject: Re: Lotus Esprit in 'Basic Instinct'
Followup-To: rec.autos
Originator: daveb@lotus
In-reply-to: kenny@osf.org (Kenneth Crudup)
Reply-To: daveb@lotus (Dave Brower, DBMS hack, [510] 748-3418)
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:01:36 GMT

>
>The name of some dealer (Ron G-------?) is prominently displayed on each
>car's license plate. Some dealer made out great- I doubt they'd've gone
>thru this trouble otherwise, as I've never seen a dealer id on a "famous"
>movie car, fake or otherwise.
>

Yeah, 'cept this SF dealer (Ron Greenspan) went out of business
about the time the movie came out.  Goes to show what a little
publicity will get you!

-dB


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From: nichael@bbn.com (Nichael Cramer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.wobegon
Subject: Repeat?
Date: 11 Jan 93 08:55:42
Organization: BBN, Interzone Office
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In-reply-to: warlock@esds.mdc.com's message of Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:27:08 GMT


Was Saturday's show a repeat (and did I just miss the announcement at
the beginning)?

I _know_ I've heard that "wolf language" bit before.

N
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From: warlock@esds.mdc.com (Dale Walker)
Subject: Re: Schedule for ABC of Air
Organization: Visual Simulation Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:27:08 GMT

In <1ikcmgINNe5d@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa437@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Clayton Hogg) writes:


>                     AMERICAN RADIO COMPANY
>                         Jan - Jun 1993
>
>Jan 9     World Theatre
>Jan 16      "      "
>Jan 23      "      "
>Jan 30      "      "
>Feb 6       "      " 
>
>Feb 13    Tour (TBA)

I heard that the Feb 13 program will be in St. Louis
at Powell Hall (St. Louis Symphony's hall).

gee that's coming fast, guess I should order a ticket

Dale Walker
From: silber@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Jeffrey Silber)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.wobegon
Subject: ARCoA / GK
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:09:28 GMT
Distribution: ny
Organization: Cornell Theory Center


Someone had posted a request regarding a Rochester, NY station for 
Garrison Keillor.  On yesterday's show WXXI was welcomed as a new
station ...

-- 
"A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real money."
                                                          --Sen. Everett Dirksen
Jeffrey A. Silber/silber@tc.cornell.edu
AD-Admin Svcs/Cornell Center for Theory & Simulation in Science & Engineering
From: aa437@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Clayton Hogg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.wobegon
Subject: Schedule for ABC of Air
Date: 8 Jan 1993 17:12:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


                     AMERICAN RADIO COMPANY
                         Jan - Jun 1993

Jan 9     World Theatre
Jan 16      "      "
Jan 23      "      "
Jan 30      "      "
Feb 6       "      " 

Feb 13    Tour (TBA)

Feb 20    Repeat
Feb 27       "
Mar 6        "

Mar 13    Birmingham, AL
Mar 20    Tour (TBA)
Mar 27    Moorhead, MN        Prairie Home Festival

Apr 3     Town Hall, NY
Apr 10      "    "            Easter Weekend
Apr 17      "     "
Apr 24      "     "

May 1     Tour (TBA)
May 8     Tour (TBA)
May 15    Tour (TBA)

May 22    World Theatre
May 29      "      "          Memorial Weekend
Jun 5       "      "
Jun 12      "      "          Season Finale

For tickets:
     American Radio Company
     Minnesota Public Radio
     45 East Seventh St
     Saint Paul MN 55101-2274

-- 
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Internet: aa437.@cleveland.freenet.edu
From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Adventures in the 1800s
Date: 6 Jan 93 00:10:41 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

In article <1993Jan5.172921@cogs.sussex.ac.uk>, richs@cogs.sussex.ac.uk (Richard Salter) writes:
> Can anybody please give me a quick list of DrW adventures that took
> place in the 1800s? When was the Highlanders set (or am I right out)?
> Was it Evil or Power of the Daleks when Victoria joined.
> By way of an explanation, I'm thinking of writing a New Adventure
> type story set in this period and I don't want to cover old ground.
> Thanks for the info (better post the answers in case anyone disagrees).
> 
> Happy Halibut V
> 
> 

If the Marie Celeste's disappearance happened in the 1800s, then part of
"The Chase" takes place there.
"The Gunfighters"
"The Evil of the Daleks"
some war zones in "The War Games" were from the 1800s
"The Talons of Weng-Chiang"
"The Mark of the Rani"
some of the fantasy scene in the Matrix in "The Ultimate Foe" were based
on Victorian era England
"Ghost Light"

Steven.K.Manfred
From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Constants a Movie should observe
Date: 11 Jan 93 03:36:05 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

In article <1993Jan10.211904.28081@midway.uchicago.edu>, lidz@quads.uchicago.edu (adam lidz) writes:
> Has anyone given thought to the fact that the movie will PROBABLY be *SHORTER* than most Dr. Who stories?
> 

What makes you say that?  
A Doctor Who story is typically nintey minutes long (four-parter, credits
and cliffhanger reprisals don't count), and the standard good movie today
is about two hours.  The movie would most likely be of the length of a 
five or six part Who TV story.

Steven.K.Manfred
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Subject: Re: DRWHO:Computer Game
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 18:26:42 PST
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

doctor@k9.UUCP (Paul Broe) writes:

> In article <1993Jan1.205214.19977@midway.uchicago.edu> tc26@quads.uchicago.ed
> > I am posting this for my friend Chris Ratliff, who does not have
> > New access:  Please e-mail responses to me at <tc26@midway.uchicago.edu>
> 
> [Dalek Attack description deleted.]
> 
> > 	DALEK ATTACK can be played as either a one person (Doctor) or
> > two-person (Doctor and Companion) game and comes in two formats; a 16 bit
> > version at (** I don't have a pound note sign **) #16.99 and a cheaper 8 bi
> > version at #7.99. It will be available on most home computer formats,
> > including IBM PC, Spectrum, Commodore 64, Amstrad, Atari ST and Amiga.
> 
> I came across a game for the Amiga on BIX a few months ago. It is available
> on amiga.physik.unizh.ch [or the aminet mirror site nearest you]. Here is
> the description:
> 
< description deleted for space>

I d/l'ed this game off of Genie a few months ago.  It is pretty fun, and kind]
of a cute game.  I'm sure that this isn't Dalek Attack, that sounds very 
different and more involved.  But it is a fun game, I've been able to win
it a couple of times.  The graphics are "ok".  It is a fun diversion
anyway.

> 
> Dalek Attack does sound more full-featured though.

Definatly

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Catherine Beckstead                    ace@kryton.uucp
"Do you want to argue with a can of deodorant that registers
NINE on the Richter scale?"        --Ace, in "Dragonfire"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: brad@hawk.adied.oz.au (Bradley Edelman)
Subject: Survival
Keywords: animal teleport
Organization: Australian Defence Industries
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:17:03 GMT


I was watching Survival last night.  Near the end the Master takes the Doctor
back to the other planet to fight it out.  Then the Doctor is teleported back
to Earth.  Does that mean the Doctor became an animal too and could "go home"
(even though Earth isn't his home)?

Brad.
Australian Defence Industries Ltd,
Enterprise Unit 3, Technology Park,
Bentley, WA 6102, Australia.
Tel: (09) 333 8888.  Fax: (09) 333 8889.
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From: danaf@bray1b.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Subject: Re: Friday Night Review- "Warhead" !SPOILERS!
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 01:33:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.164422.593@rivers>, ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:
|> 
|> 
|> SPOILERS ahead for "Cat's Cradle: Warhead" by Andrew Cartmel
|> 

me too...

|> 
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|> SPOILERS!
|> 
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|> Two down, three to go.  I've ordered several of the New Adventures books
|> at last, and have downed the first two now.  Now I have to wait until next
|> Monday for the other three to come in. :(
|> 
|> Anyway, I loved this book a lot...
|> Let's split it up like I did before....
|> 
|> 
|> Good points: 1) Cartmel's narrative style.

Igh...

I never liked Andrew's style, personally. He's an OK script editor, but he's 
no author. Give me PC or TD any day...

|> Bad points:  Not many.


I've got ONE big point...

Whoever was complaining about the New Adventures not being "real" Who - THIS
is the story you should be complaining about! AUGH! This is the worst example
of Doctor Who I've ever read! It's "ohhhhkay, I guess..." Sci-Fi, but to pass
this drek off as Doctor Who is outrageous! How can someone who edited the 
series for as long as he has get the entire focus of the thing so utterly
WRONG?!?!?!?!

Also, my problem with the entire series is that it seemed to have NO real 
links - unless I missed something major. They were just these three books with
a silver cat in the beginning and the end. 
	Now I know why the switched to one-offs for the New Adventures.

|> Overall grade (scale of 1 to 10): 9.7

!?!?!?

I guess we just have a difference of opinion. I rated this one LOWEST out of
all I've read so far (up to and including Love and War..)

|> An excellent read that makes me want to read more cyberpunk stories.

Do. Read Gibson if you want to read cyberpunk, tho... not Doctor Who!

|> Steven.K.Manfred

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From: richs@cogs.sussex.ac.uk (Richard Salter)
Subject: The New Adventures (again - you probably think I'm obsessed!)
Organization: University of Sussex
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:26:56 GMT

Sorry to bring 'em up again but since they're the only new, full length 
Who stories we're getting these days I think they're worth discussion.

I think it's a bit of a shame that they seem to be losing sight of what
Doctor Who is, was and should be. Love & War and Transit were great
Sci Fi stories, but they weren't Doctor Who. They just happened to 
shove him and Ace/Benny into the fray. Time's Crucible couldn't have
existed without the Doctor and the TARDIS, but it still wasn't Who as
we know it. 

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the books and the new interest they're 
generating, but it's just a shame that they're getting so abstract. I
mean Transit was so obscure in places that I had little idea of what 
the hell was going on. Maybe I'm just stupid (don't answer that) but
it just annoys me a little that no matter how much you want to enjoy
reading the books, vital (and tiny) clues can be easily missed as to
what's going on. Isn't this the point of having companions, so that the
Doctor can explain the plot to them coz they're stupid human beans?

I also get the impression that the authors are battling for the "most
obscure ending" prize. Love & War holds that title at the moment for me.

Just some random ramblings, but I'd welcome comments.

Happy Halibut II

Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: abaddon@camelot.bradley.edu (Lawrence McAlpin)
Subject: Re: THE VALEYARD'S TRUE G
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 10 Jan 93 21:54:07 GMT

In <5660.130.uupcb@ssr.com> doug.vermes%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Doug Vermes)  writes:

>-> - When the Master said 'between your 12th and last regeneration' when
>-> describin
>Whoa, I may be wrong here, but I am almost positive that he used the
>word "incarnation" NOT "regeneration".... Thus, there is no problem
>going against the 12 regeneration limit. Unless you guys are absolutely
>sure, I really think it was incarnation...

YOU are correct, sir.  I watched 'Trial of a Time Lord' just yesterday
and kept this whole debate in mind while watching:  it was definitely
'incarnation' that he said.  There's no room for error.  A friend of
mine had recently watched it and agreed with me that it was, indeed,
'incarnation' and NOT 'regeneration' as someone else has stated.

So, even if those guys (who think the Master said 'regeneration') are
absolutely sure, it doesn't change a thing.  He quite clearly stated
'incarnation' and that's the end of that.
From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Major Announcement Concernning the Club's Listings Now being made
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 06:41:36 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada


LATEST Club's listing News!!

The keeper of the Club lsiting has Split the Club's Listing into the FOLLOWING
regions:

Canada
Australia & New Zealand
UK 1 (Scotland, Ireland, Northern Ireland, Wales, London Capital Region)
UK 2 (England sans London Capital Region)
US 1 (Alaska, Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, North Dakota,
      South Dakota, Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin)
US 2 (Hawaii, California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico,
      Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana)
US 3 (Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, New Jersey,
      New York, Conneticut, Massatchechets, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine)
US 4 (West Virginia, Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, Tennessee, North Carolina,
      South Carolina, Mississipi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Kentucky)

Also, the Club's Listings entries are now as formatted:

Club's Name:
Mailing Address:
Membership fees:
Meeting dates/location:
Person in charge:
Known contact on USEnet:
Year Established:
Number of Members:
Listing last modified:
Club-sanctioned BBS:
Fanzines/Newsletters published:
Miscellaneous:

I WILL try to update everything this weekend.

If I miss anything, blame me for being depressed about turning of the person
who introduced me to the net.

Uniting Whovians via the net,

Dave Shariff Yadallee (B. Sc. (Econ/Math) (U of Alberta 1990) )
 (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca, userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
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Birthdate: 29 Jan 1969, Redhill, Surrey, England, UK
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: richs@cogs.sussex.ac.uk (Richard Salter)
Subject: Re: Thursday Afternoon Review-"Time's Crucible" !SPOILERS!
Organization: University of Sussex
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:21:39 GMT

It's spoiler time...
















I got the feeling that Vael was the Valeyard too. Well actually to start
with I got this distinct impression that Vael *was* the Doctor. In other
words Vael is Hartnell's Doc as a young man, before he grew old and
regenerated for the first time. I can't remember the line that gave me
this impression, it was somewhere around when the TARDIS collided with
the time vessel thingy. Weird or what!

Happy Halibut V
From: doug.vermes%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Doug Vermes) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: RE: THE MASTER
Date: 9 Jan 93 09:22:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: doug.vermes%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Doug Vermes) 

-> I wonder if Star Trek fans ever had this kind of discourse ...
I'd say they probably are having it right now, what with the possible
end of Star: Trek The Next Generation...
    - Doug

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doug.vermes%acc1bbs@ssr.com