From: s1070619@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (YOGI *is* N.KROENERT)
Subject: Re: What's the relevance of ....?
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:44:40 GMT

theodore-michael@yale.edu (Michael Theodore) writes:

>In article <s1070619.721617105@giaeb> s1070619@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (YOGI *is* N.KROENERT) writes:
>>
>>>You're right -  who cares if he doesn't really know what voyeur means -
>>>more of a real issue is *my* use of the word homphobe to describe you.
>>>Am I to take your continued silence about this to be a tacit admission that
>>>you are a homophobe?
>>    If you are saying that I hate the idea of being subjected to a disgusting,
>>    unnatural and potentially dangerous act, well then, yes I am a Homophobe.

>Hey don't knock it till you try it. I like anal sex, whether it involves
>a man or a woman with a strapped-on dildo. I'd wager that you'd find
>it stimulating as well,  as most research on the subject concludes that for
>most people, the anus is a highly erogenous zone. But don't take my
>word for, look through some studies  yourself, or better yet, get over
>your insecurity and try it. Again, just by your extreme overstating of
>your distaste for this sexual act it's obvious that you find it compelling
>but can't deal with it because you've been brainwashed by a repressed society.

    Man, you are sick. Why can't you be normal? Oh, I'm sorry, I frot, your
    idea of normal is a bit stuffed up... Can't you have an enjoyably life
    without differing from the norm? Why is it that everyne who is different
    thinks they have a better life than those who are not?? Geez, that pisses
    me off. I have been straight ALL my life, and have never regretted it.
    Plus, I am in a much lower risk group for many diseases.

>>
>>>You are very vocal about your hatred of Madonna - if
>>>you had any integrity at all you would also admit that you hate gay people
>>    Well, I don't mind gay people, as long as they stay away from me when they
>>    are looking for a good time. I have some friends that are gay, and this
>>    does not bother me, it is just the sico faggots that make passes at you in
>>    public places, such as toilets that I *really* dispise. It is not the
>>    *person* that I hate, just their sexual preferences.

>I don't know why I waste my time with someone who calls gay people "sico
>faggots".
    Because you don't take the time to try to understand what it is that I'm
    saying.
>I bet however, that you've probably created fantasies of lots of
>gay people hitting on you in order to justify your homphobia (which itself
>stems from repression).

    Not. And, why is it you feel I'm repressed? Are you saying that If I let
    all my unnatural, homophobic ways fly out the window, I'll have a
    wonderfull life? I don't think so. I also need no reason to Justify
    anything. As you so often point out, we have rights, and It's my right to
    hate homosexual acts, and my right to post to this group.



>I you lived in this country I'd recommend that you join the Moral Majority.
>It's hard for me to believe that there are still backwards men who want
>to deny women expression of their sexuality (something that men have always
>had the freedom to do). I know the world is changing, and that more and more
>men are waking up and realizing how unfair and fucked up that attitude is, but
>I wish it were changing faster, and I wish you'd get with it.
    I dont want to deny anyone anything, (apart from homosexual acts etc
    with *me*!!) and just be the way, what about my rights??? What I was
    saying, and it looks like I'll have to say it again, is *I* (that's *ME*)
    feel that women sand  greater chance of being raped if they act in certain
    ways. That is the way it is. Full Stop. There is NO way you can deny that.

>>>If someone does rape, then throw the bum in jail (and don't listen to the men like you who will
>>>say it's the woman's fault).
>>    More moronic comments. What about the old saying...
>>        "PREVENTION IS BETTER THAN THE CURE"?
>>    If we took your approach to the matter, then for every one that is
>>    committed, he mkust first put a woman through the horror of rape. But if
>>    we use *MY* method, there would in *MY* opinion be less people that have
>>    to face the rape process.

>Wrong -  if we take your approach, which up till now has been the approach of
>society at large, we'd be telling women that they aren't free to express
>themselves however they choose. At the same time, we'd be blaming women
>for rape instead of the rapists (which is more or less still what we do -
>at almost all rape trials, the defense tries to make an issue of what the
>woman did to provoke the rape). If we place the blame where it really lies,
>with the rapist, and then actually throw him in jail (as does not happen
>enough) women would be free to act however they choose, and society would
>have less rapists walking around. Over time, the incidence of rape
>would hopefully go down.

    Idiot. You really don't care what it is that I have said, you just want to
    yap on about people experssing themselv, eventhough most of the time it is
    no more expressing themselves than imitating others in an attempt to be
    popular or accepted. Hopefully, you say... Well, that must give all people
    a great feeling of security...
>>
>>>>    Slobs... Good insult... I'm hurt...
>>>>    I just hope one of the angry 'uns come after you, not me.
>>
>>>You didn't like slobs huh? How about  lily-livered, whoreson, brazen-faced
>>>varlet, one-trunk-inheriting slave, the son and heir of a mongrel bitch, and
>>>one whom I'll beat into clamorous whining if thou deniest the least syllable!
>>    Well, my goat felching friend, once you have finished reaming your
>>    boyfriend, and possibly girlfriend, get your rock squicking mantool out of
>>    your hand, and cut down on your diet of wet dog anal fluid, die. I can
>>    name call too.
>I'm actually quite impressed by this stream of insults - it's of very high
>quality (I give you points on this one). I'll let you have the last word
>as an ongoing war of insults is even less interesting than our dialogue
>so far.

>>
>>
>>>>>God's beard drips frothy chaos........
>>>>    Yeah, good comment theo... God is a spiritual being if you belive he
>>>>    exists, and how can a intangable being, who has no physical form have a
>>>>    beard???   Just wondering...
>>
>>>You must have intended to post this to alt.sophomoric.theological.speculation.
>>    Just commenting on your trailer that belongs in alt.faggot.I.love.madonna.
>>    and.I.want.to.root.my.dogs.pups.six.times.a.day

>Your calling me a faggot probably has something to do with your not knowing
>what the word "sophmoric" means.
    No, not at all.
>For your information, it means "Brash and
>overconfident, but immature and ill informed".
    Do you think I care?
>For the record I'm a proudly bisexual man who loves to experiment with
all different kinds of (safe) sex, and I have pity for all those repressed
people out there who don't allow themselves to indulge the fantasies that
our outmoded societal mores have tried to brainwash out of them.
    Um... Arent YOU trying to brainwash your morals etc into us??? well, that'
    s what it looks like to me... "Repressed poeple" like myself (NOT) will
    get along just fine without all the gays and Bi's...
>So go on and have the last word - but don't expect any more responses -

>you bore me.
   Would It help if I strapped on a dildo?
    I didnt think so...
   Well, If you want to look the hero, and respond one more time... go
   ahead... I probably wont respond, as I'm moving and won't have net
   access for a while. :-(...   (sniff...)

Well, all... It was fun getting you all riled up for a while... but the
novelty does wear off, and besides, you are just a likely to change your views
as a result of my post as I am in response to yours. Have a nice life, and If
you get aids or any other disease as a result of your non repressed, fully
self expressive lifestyle, life in the happiness that you earned it.
    And then kiss my ass. I warned you.

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