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From: irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine)
Subject: Re: Cellular scanning
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 21:54:27 GMT

In article <312.799.uupcb@ehbbs.gwinnett.com> jack.mcgee@ehbbs.gwinnett.com (Jack Mcgee) writes:
>BI>All radios can EASILY be converted to cellular reception, relatively
>  >inexpensively (even a common broadcast band radio).  Don't worry about it,
>  >there will be books of HOW-TO instructions with detailed parts lists,
>  >and KITS to do it since selling paper with writing on it is not illegal
>  >and electronics parts are not illegal.
>
>I guess nobody knows how the cellular ban will play out in terms of 3rd
>party modifications, etc.  I think the law says something to the effect
>that the scanner cannot be readily modified.  Does that mean that
>manufacturers will lock out that range in a ROM chip, or the CPU,
>instead of a diode anyone can clip?  If they lock it out via a ROM chip,
>I imagine that some third party will sell a replacement chip that
>enables those frequencies.  But it would cost more than clipping a
>diode, for sure.

All you have to do is get a down-converter, attach it to your ariel, and
you are in buisness.  There is no such thing as a non-readily modifiable
scanner.  Hopefully when the test case goes to court, the lawyer will have
enough savvy to prove that technically it is impossible to enforce the]
law, so it cannot be one (enforceability or compliability to the law
are categories that MUST be met for the courts to recognize the law as viable)


They are SUCH idiots there.  They would be alarmed to death to think that
a radio reciever can be constructed using a razor blade, piece of pencil
lead and headphones (costs less than 25c to make!).  That kind of bloody
mindedness really sets me off so I'll stop taking about it now.

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From: barryb@bilver.uucp (Barry Bond)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: SW Receivers with RS232 interface?
Summary: Thanks!
Keywords: OS9/68000 SHORTWAVE RECEIVERS SERIAL RS232 COMMUNICATIONS
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:46:14 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL

Hi Ralph!

     Thanks for the information on the DR333!  I AM a computer nut, so I
will be checking it out!  :-)

     I would also appreciate the address of Proceedings, as I will be
interested in any reviews I can find on the radios I consider!

     I appreciate your help!

     Barry
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Subject: Cellular scanner ban...
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:11:51 GMT

Richard Crisp writes:
>  ... we have the nose of the Camel in our tent: the precedent has been 
set.
> I now envision [most other services demanding privacy]

Like everything else in our society, communications is changing.
The principle that one could receive anything in the air is simply
going away: our society is deciding that the RF spectrum is just
too valuable a resource to use in that way.  We hobbiests may not
like it, but it's the wave of the future.  Too many people stand to
make too much money by providing private comms for the masses
to let a bunch of us "technocreeps" get in their way.  The same 
exact thing happened to the hams: we originally had all frequencies
below a wavelength of 200 meters, because the feds though they
were useless.  As soon as industry, military, and government users
found out that shortwave, VHF, UHF, etc were useful (it was the hams
who showed them!), they immediatly took the frequencies away from
us.  At its best, government is guided by the principle of "the most
good for the most people", and scanner fans are a definite minority
in this case.  I don't like it either, but I think we should all get used
to it.  Just one "technocreep's" opinion.

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* These are my opinions only.*
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From: penchos@infonode.ingr.com (John A. Penchosky)
Subject: SW Software
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:25:07 GMT

  I will be moving from a house to an apartment and was wanting some
reviews or suggestions for an indoor antenna. I have looked in the EEB
and grove catologs at the various active antenna's and puchased the
"hidden antenna" and pre-amp for my pro-2006. Now I am looking at
something for the shortwave. I have a Sangean 803a. Groves ad says you
can use the "hidden antenna" with there preamp/tuner for SWL but a 5ft.
wire doesn't seem like much. It's hard going from a discone and dipole to
active antenna's but I'll have to make due. Any suggestions??
   Also, I am looking into the PC HF Fax and SWL software. Is anyone
using this that could give me a review? Would my Sangean 803a be good
enough to copy these signals with indoor antenna's?
   Has anyone connected to garfield.catt.ncsu.edu latley? When I FTP
I connect but get no login prompt. I've mainly tried during the daytime,
with no luck. I do remember getting in before but it's been awhile.
Thanks for any help.

-- 
*******************************************************************************    John Penchosky     INTERGRAPH CORP.
    205-730-6313      HUNTSVILLE, ALABAMA 35894  penchos@infonode.ingr.com
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:12:30 +0001
Reply-To:     MICHELE <DAMICO@IPMEL1.POLIMI.IT>
From:         MICHELE <DAMICO@IPMEL1.POLIMI.IT>
Subject:      Frequency List Wanted !

Hi NETLanders,

I am looking for an (Electronic) list of the frequencies of Short Wave
Broadcasting Stations; does anybody know if there is something available at
some site ?  I know that there is a good list of scanner frequencies at
GARFIELD.CATT.NCSU.EDU, for example, and I was wondering if there is something
like that available for shortwaves, too.

Thank for any help, and good Dx everybody!

                                                    Mike




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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Fri,  9 Oct 1992 12:26:48 -0400 
From: "Paul J. Dujmich" <paul+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Any PD software to view WEFAX on MFJ-1278?
Distribution: usa

There is a generic fax receive program on SIMTEL20 called "WEFAX.ZIP".
It is in pd1:<msdos.hamradio>. I'm not sure if it will work with
the MFJ tnc, but I know it works with the PK232MBX.

Paul
WA3TLD
From: rwa@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (Ross Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Are major broadcasters using SSB?
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:40:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: aupair.rwa.718483222

wmartin@STL-06SIMA.ARMY.MIL (Will Martin) writes:

 [quite a bit about the continuity of radio and the
  non-obsolescence of even the earliest AM designs]

Will, what about FM and the digital modes?  Their existence hasn't
exactly pushed the AM receiver into extinction.  I suspect that the
existing AM machinery will give yeoman service until the smoke
eventually leaks out of it; there's always domestic LF and MF even if
the HF broadcasters all go to SSB.

And as for the price & complexity of SSB receivers - I strongly
suspect that when the manufacturers see the immense size of the
replacement SSB receiver market, that single-chip solutions will come
tumbling out the chute faster than you can say Jack Robinson.
Probably the biggest expense for third-world owners will continue to
be operating rather than purchase costs, i.e., batteries.

It *is* kind of neat that you can copy AM on a rusty razorblade and a
pin, but is that a compelling reason to cut the available spectrum
capacity in half?  Doesn't seem like much of an arguement to me.

regards,
Ross VE6PDQ
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From: mab3474@zeus.tamu.edu (Myles Barkman-KG5AI Tx A&M Univ.)
Subject: Secret Service Freqs
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 06:02:00 GMT

I put secret service freqs on the garfield ftp site.  
garfield.catt.ncsu.edu
/pub/hamradio/scanner/FREQS/
usss.txt.Z
or ask me for them
the main ones I hear are 164.650, 166.5125, 165.375.  It depends who it is
of course.  This is pretty moot unless you have a digital descrambler.
Best to listen to police.

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: mikael@inmic.se (Mikael Jargelius)
Subject: Re: Sangean ATS-803A
Organization: Swedish Institute of Microelectronics, Kista
	<1992Oct14.204808.29943@access.usask.ca>
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 11:35:36 GMT

This chuffing mod for Sangean ATS-803A, is it available via ftp on the net?

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:41:04 EDT
Reply-To:     Tom Evert <O1EVERT@AKRONVM.BITNET>
From:         Tom Evert <O1EVERT@AKRONVM.BITNET>

Hillary Clinton is visiting our campus soon.  Does anyone have any
recently confirmed Secret Service, etc. scanner frequencies?

Thanks in advance...Tom
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: jdc3538@ultb.isc.rit.edu (J.D. Cronin)
Subject: American made shortwave radio from WWCR???
Originator: jdc3538@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 18:49:05 GMT


WWCR (7435 khz, evenings) recently announced that they finished their
project to produce shortwave radios in the U.S., and are now selling
them.

Does anybody have any info on this?  I'm curious about it, but not
curious enough to want to be on their mailing list...

Thanks...Jim
From: xberri@europa.aero.org (Jason E. Berri)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Thailand Schedule (fidonet)
Date: 10 Oct 1992 15:45 -0800
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation
Distribution: world
Reply-To: xberri@arecibo.aero.org
NNTP-Posting-Host: europa.aero.org
Keywords: Schedule
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

From: REID KELLY
Subj: RADIO THAILAND IN ENGLISH

               RADIO THAILAND-ENGLISH BROADCAST SCHEDULE
                     236 Vibhavadi Rangsit Highway
                      Huay Khwang, Bangkok 10400
                               THAILAND


Another file from: SHORTWAVE PARADISE BBS- Fort Lauderdale,Florida USA
                   +1-305-524-1035 BBS
                   +1-305-524-0005 FAX

2300-0430  9655, 11905
0500-0600  9655, 11905
1130-1230  9655, 11905

===============
PROGRAM LINE-UP
===============
* 2300 UTC  Morning Call
  2330 UTC  Travel Thailand
  0000 UTC  Newscast (1Hr)
  0100 UTC  "8 O'Clock News"
  0115 UTC  Music
  0120 UTC  A Page from Thai History
  0130 UTC  Feature Program
  0145 UTC  (M-F) Music Scene
            (Sat) Thai Musical Tune
            (Sun) A Letter from Bangkok
  0200 UTC  "9 O'Clock News"
  0210 UTC  (M-F) Happy Hour
            (A+S) Music Mine
  0400 UTC  "11 O'Clock News"
  0410 UTC  Around Town
  0430 UTC  (End of English Broadcast)

*
  0500 UTC  "12 O'Clock News"
  0510 UTC  (M-F) Mail Box
            (A+S) Happy Holiday
  0520 UTC  (Mon) The Week That Was
            (Tue, Thu, Sat) Press, and Public Views
            (Wed, Fri, Sun) Talk Program
  0530 UTC  Newscast
  0600 UTC  (End of English Broadcast)


* 1130 UTC  World News in Brief
  1140 UTC  (M-F) Mail Box
            (A+S) Happy Holiday
  1150 UTC  (Mon, Wed, Fri) Press, and Public Views
            (Tue, Thu, Sat) Talk Program
            (Sun) The Week That Was
  1200 UTC  Newscast
  1230 UTC  (End of English Broadcast)

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From: aksurf@caltech.edu (Axel)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Follow up on Sangean 803
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:00:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: 131.aksurf-161092095011
Followup-To: rec.radio.shortwave
Distribution: world
Organization: California Institute of Technology
NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.215.9.51

Hi folks,

I got a lot of responses regarding the Sangean 803. To summarize, I must
say that there are a lot of people who are happy with it. But from the
complaints I received, I can only conclude that my main problem was noise
from the local transmitters. Since I live relatively close to Mount Wilson
(this is where most of LA's power stations have their transmitters KFI
etc...) I heard nothing but garbage. And I may have had a bad model. 

In the meanwhile, I returned it to the store. Last night, I bought a used
Yaesu FRT 7000, ( I got the Sangean for $200, and the Yeasu was only $50
more) and I pick up just about anything with the same wire antenna! I
downloaded my first WEFAX this morning. So the Sangean unit I had was
definitely screwed up. 

But then again, it would be unfair to compare the Sangean 803 with a full
scale HF communications receiver from YEATSU. But I spend only $50 more... 

 
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
From: johnw@bluemoon.rn.com (John L. Wilkerson Jr.)
Subject: Re: RE: CB TIPS
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 06:45:51 EDT

edwardl@freddyk.uucp (Edward Langenback) writes:

> phantom@pro-haven.cts.com (Tiffany Keller) writes:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > In <1992Oct05.145246.2876336@locus.com> dana@locus.com (Dana H. Myers) writ
> > 
> > % Yikes, they get married younger all the time! Or, maybe I'm being a Moron
> > % to assume Tiffany is twelve years old based on the teenaged flames she
> > % generates....
> > 
> >         Look idiot, I am plenty old enough to be married and I don't need y
> > stupid remarks.....Just because you are for stuff that I happen to be again
> > (such as linears on 11m.....) doesn't mean that I am acting immature.
> >         Btw.....yes, you do seem to act like a "moron"....(hey, you brought
> > that one on yourself.....)
> > 
> >         T. Keller
> > 
> > % 
> > % Now, Tiffany, you don't need to go non-linear on account of this flame...
> > % 
> > % Dana
> > % 
> 
>  
> sheesh! enough already!  how about redirecting anything further on this 
> thread to /dev/null?
> 
> 
       I agree.  the whole damn subject has been run into the ground and 
has deviated from the whole topic of this newsgroup.   I see 10 messages 
about all this Bs and ONE pertaining to radio.    Get off it people!
 

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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Antenna Mounting...
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 04:53:16 GMT

system@gravebbs.UUCP (SYSTEM 0PERATOR) writes:
: Just to briefly get off the topic of LINEAR AMPS..  I bought a 108" steel 
: whip and I was planning to mount it onto my roof.  But:

Whips are not designed for roof mounting. They are designed for use with
a ground plane. You would be far better off getting a base station antenna.
If you are going to put in all that effort, do it right.

: 1. Where's the best place to mount it?  (Chinmey, Edge, Gutter?)

The best place is as high as possible. That is usually on a pole fastened
to the chimney. However, if you have a wood stove, that is not a good place.

: 2. Is it necessary that I ground it?

Any outdoor antenna should have good lightning protection.

: 3. Does the cable really matter?  (Does it HAVE to be RG-58 or RG-8?)

The coax does make a difference. Losses mount up rapidly with long coax
runs. Use RG-8, or better, for best received signal - it is not as critical
for transmission.  Use good coax, not the rat shack stuff.

Bill
From: gdcarson@icaen.uiowa.edu (Gregory Donald Carson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
Subject: New User Needs Help
Date: 9 Oct 92 00:49:29 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

Hello CB'ers

	I have recently bought a CB radio, my first.  I was wondering where
I would go to get some good information on how to use it.  
	I admit that this is likely an FAQ, but I checked through the whole
list of available messages and coulf not find the FAQ.
	Could someone help me, and send me the FAQ.  I would also appreciate
any tips anyone would care to send my way.

	Thanks for reading my post.

Greg Carson ... gdcarson.icaen.uiowa.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Linear Amplifiers
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:21:34 GMT

gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes:
: 
: I can appreciate your desire to bark with the big dogs, but it's not
: a good idea, and the performance improvement will be very minor. Unless
: you are a very excellent designer and very experienced constructor, 
: anything you can slap together on a weekend cheap isn't going to be clean. 
: Designing and building a clean class AB1 amplifier for AM is not a
: trivial task. An amplifier for SSB is somewhat easier to do, but you
: won't build either in a weekend, and it's going to cost at least $200
: to do it right for a 60 watter.

SSB also requires an AB1 amplifier. The requirement is not changed, just
because the sideband is suppressed.

Bill
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
From: csjos@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (John Stafford)
Subject: Re: Antron 99
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 23:04:14 GMT

I agree on the solatron A99 ant (antron 99) i have had  every ground
plane known to man at one time or another and i agree its the finest
ant.i have  ever owned also i have used it on the 20 meter band on up to
and through the ten meter band band with very good performance also
their only rated at 2000 watts but i know some people that have run
3500 plus with no adverse affects to the ant..

Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
From: elesatz@diana.cair.du.edu (Eric LeSatz)
Subject: Re: Antenna Mounting...
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 05:58:01 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.045316.24516@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>system@gravebbs.UUCP (SYSTEM 0PERATOR) writes:
>: Just to briefly get off the topic of LINEAR AMPS..  I bought a 108" steel 
>: whip and I was planning to mount it onto my roof.  But:
>
>Whips are not designed for roof mounting. They are designed for use with
>a ground plane. You would be far better off getting a base station antenna.
>If you are going to put in all that effort, do it right.

A few years ago I bought a 1/4 wave whip, the hardware to mount it
with and 4 non-insulated wires. That antenna worked great on the roof
(with just the four wires as the ground plane) and didn't cost me
nearly as much as a prepacked base antenna. Plus, the white fiberglass
blended extremely well with the sky..the antenna wasn't noticible at
all unless you were specifically looking for it. Most base antennas I
see are the ugly (and obvious) silver color.

I recommend building your own. Much cheaper, equal performance (I had
an SWR of 1.2 on mine) and you will learn a little about radio theory
doing it.

Eric
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From: smustopo@nyx.cs.du.edu (sofjan mustopoh)
Subject: Re: Linear Amplifiers
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
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	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 05:18:13 GMT



     First of all you hve stated you know it is illegal to use
  linear . so that is fine with me. Now before you build the linear
  why don't you inspect all you cb system once more. where are your
  antenna located . is it clear of any obstructio. especially
  metal. secondly how about the coaxial cable. is it a funny 
  looking cheap one. if it is chances are you lost most of the  power
  there. how about the connector. are they solder propely..

      The reason of all this inspection is that a linear won't help
  at all if you can't get the power up to the air. and chances are
  after you relocate your antenna. change your cable. inspect the
  connector. you don't even have to build the linear.

       Years ago back in my country i used part of my father ham station 
  my cb shack. So i install a 5/8 Antenna up on a 15 or so meter of
  pole on the top of fourth floors. I use RG8 as the cable and
  have a 60 watt linear for my 7 watts cb. My experience is you can
  talk locally using 7 watts as good as 60 watts. but 60 watts 
  will give more punch raising your signal so it is clearer to the
  receiving end. But all of it depend heavily on your coaxial cable
  connector and antenna.

       Using linear alone is like havind a Honda GoldWing 1500
  fit with bicycle chain.

       So before warming up the soldering iron consider the above.

    Muskie


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