HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: frite@vlsi.polymtl.ca), (Michel Besner)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Problems using translations : (
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:40:24 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal, lab. INFO

Date: 29 Sep 92 18:54:08 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep29.185408.654@vlsi.polymtl.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif,comp.windows.x


	Hi there !


	I'm trying to receive events while keeping the shift+left button
down. I want to continue receiving those events while I'm moving the
mouse around (with the shift+left button still down ...).

	So far I've tried using :

	Shift<Btn1Down>,<Btn1Motion> -> I get the first event but nothing
after ....

	Shift<Btn1Motion> doesn't seem to work -> I get a code dumped
in BindActions :(


Is there a way to do it ?
Or what I'm doing wrong ?
Did I miss something ?

Any hints are welcome :)

Thanx in advance !!	
--
			Michel Besner, eng
			Sacred Heart Hospital research center

"life is a big bowl of JELL-O  :) :) "
From: sns@bondi.jpl.nasa.gov (Sam Southard)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: GUI builders
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:07:17 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: SAR Systems Development & Processing, JPL

Date: 29 Sep 92 20:39:01 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep29.203901.21586@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I'm looking for a program I could use to design a graphical interface for an
image display program I wrote for X.  It should be

(1) Fairly easy to use, as this is likely to be a one-time event (I don't think
	I'll be doing another thing like this)
(2) Free or very cheap, since this is for personal use.
(3) The output should be usable under both Motif and OpenLook.

Please let me know your suggestion, even if they don't meet all of the above
conditions.
From: duanev@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Duane Voth)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Paned widget resources - xrn config
Date: 4 Oct 92 00:58:01 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., MPD; Austin, TX

Date: 1 Oct 92 18:13:59 GMT
Message-Id: <2566@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Can someone show me how to arbitrarily position the children of a paned
widget using Xresources?  Specifically, I would like xrn to place the
article view window to the RIGHT of the article index window instead of
below, so I can get 50+ lines of each at once.  (xrn code change suggestions
are also welcome)
-- 
--- duane voth                                  duanev@mpd.tandem.com
--- ALL systems are arbitrary!  Effectiveness is the measure of Truth
--
From: meo@austin.ibm.com (Miles O'Neal)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Can't get XROOMS to compile
Date: 4 Oct 92 23:16:33 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: IBM AWD

Date: 1 Oct 92 21:49:37 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct1.214937.2231@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

mdm@hadrosaur.cis.ohio-state.edu (Michael Moore) writes:
| drp40@cd.amdahl.com writes:
| >I get the following in the final make-stage of xrooms:
| >
| >ld: Undefined symbol 
| >   __XPrintDefaultError 
| >   _alloca
| >*** Error code 2
| >make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `xrooms'
| 
| 	I had the same problem.  I had to go into the source and remove
| the XPrintDefaultError call and change alloca to malloc, then recompile.
| I have now been using it for about 2 weeks, and have had no discernable 
| problems.

_XPrintDefaultError I think is a DecWindows function - I've had
to #ifdef it out on all 3 systems (non-DEC) on which I've built
xrooms.

-- 
Miles O'Neal                      Internet: meo@austin.ibm.com
From: ahj1@quads.uchicago.edu (andrew jaffe)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: 'tty' info on other xterm
Date: 26 Sep 92 09:45:27 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1992 19:15:11 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep23.191511.9129@midway.uchicago.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

If I run one xterm from within another, is there any way to get the
'/dev/'  of the new xterm (i.e. the output of the unix 'tty' command for
the new window).

I need this because in order to send output of a local graphing program
to this window (a tek window started with xterm -t), I need to do a
setenv of a local variable to the output of the new window's tty
command.

Any ideas? Right now I'm doing it by hand (i.e. opening new window,
typing tty, reading output, going to old window, doing setenv...).\, but
there must be an easier way. Right?

Thanks

Andrew

-- 
Andrew Jaffe
Dep't of Astronomy and Astrophysics
University of Chicago
ajaffe@oddjob.uchicago.edu
From: nosmo@ximage.com (Vince Kraemer)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Wcl problem (I wonder where my widgets are)
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:14:23 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 13:14:04 CDT
Message-Id: <9209291814.AA02465@ximage.com>
Reply-To: nosmo@ximage.com

I have hacked a version of the standard resource interpreters (Ori/Mri)
to allow me to choose visuals etc. (Basically, I have broken up the call
to XtInitialize into its component parts.)

When I start up my application "normally" only the applicationShell
appears. If I set wcTrace to True, I get:

Wcl  New Root: test_decodispl of class ApplicationShell
Wcl   managed: test_decodispl.bb of class Bulletin
Wcl Warning: test_decodispl.bb.cancel_decompress.wcCreate resource missing - need class or constructor
Wcl   managed: test_decodispl.bb.prev of class OblongButton
Wcl   managed: test_decodispl.bb.next of class OblongButton
Wcl   managed: test_decodispl.bb.exit of class OblongButton
Wcl   managed: test_decodispl.bb.disp_area of class Stub
Calling XtRealizeWidget()

(I know that the warning is telling me that the popup doesn't exist -
but will that really matter wrt the creation and management of the other
children?) 

Has anyone else encountered this behavior?

BTW: I have encountered this problem using OpenWindows 3/OLIT (SunOs
     4.1.2) and AIXWindows/Motif (under AIX 3.2 on RS/6000)

Thanks
From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: GC Errors
Date: 1 Oct 92 08:35:18 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines

Date: 29 Sep 92 04:23:12 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep29.042312.28731@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Sep25.184853.17960@nuscc.nus.sg>, iscooibc@nuscc.nus.sg (Beng Chin) writes:

> [] I got the following error[s].

> X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
> Major opcode of failed request:  55 (X_CreateGC)
> value in failed request:  0x28000d4

[edited severely -dM]
> void WidgetAction::select( Widget w, XEvent *event ) {
> 	XGCValues values;
> 	values.line_style - LineOnOffDash;
> 	values.function = GXxor;
> 	gc = XtGetGC(w, GCForeground | GCBackground |
> 	GCFunction | GCLineStyle, &values);

(XtGetGC I don't know, but I can guess.)  You haven't set the
foreground, background, or line_style elements of the values structure.
(It looks as though you tried to set the line_style, but mistyped.)
Since the foreground and background values are (supposed to be)
truncated to the appropriate number of bits rather than producing
errors, I assume it's the line-style that's causing problems.

Why 0x28000d4, which looks like a window or pixmap or something ID?
Probably just because that's what happened to be lying around in that
piece of memory on the stack.

					der Mouse

			    mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
From: tonyf@peacock.ims.com (Antonio Freixas)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Color string to nearest match converter?
Date: 3 Oct 92 08:23:52 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Integrated Measurement Systems, Inc.

Date: 30 Sep 92 14:30:14 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep30.143014.10063@ims.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <semB8Si00Woi5Bskhw@andrew.cmu.edu>, rr2b+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Andrew Ryan) writes:
|> Excerpts from netnews.comp.windows.x: 29-Sep-92 Re: Color string to
|> nearest.. Antonio Freixas@peacock. (2771)
|> 
|> 
|> > Another comment:  It seems to me that the code listed by Rainer code
|> > be more easily implemented using XAllocNamedColor.  Wouldn't the
|> > following do the same things?
|> 
|> The problem with XAllocNamedColor is that it only recognizes color
|> Names, not specifications like:  #a0b0c0.
|> 
|> -Rob Ryan

The original code (Which I didn't quote completely) used XLookupColor
followed by XAllocColor, which has basically the same restriction.  So
I still think that the short routine I proposed does the same thing as
Rainer's code (minus the fprintf output).

					         -- tonyf@ims.com
					       (503) 626-7117 x1349
From: sasarh@demetris.unx.sas.com (Tony Hefner)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Non-proportional scrollbars
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:56:23 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.

Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:08:42 GMT
Message-Id: <BvE9yJ.B49@unx.sas.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


The discussion about proportional scrollbars has led me to post
a problem I face with the critters.  How do you handle the case
where you don't know in advance how big the total scrolled area
is?  Say you are generating data on-the-fly, and the only way to
know how much data there will be is to generate it all, which
would be prohibitively expensive.  Therefore, you simply generate
the area that the user is viewing as he scrolls around.  Any
thoughts on intuitive user scrolling for this case?

                   -- Tony Hefner (aka sasarh@unx.sas.com)
From: jiu1@husc10.harvard.edu (Haibin Jiu)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.parallel
Subject: linda performance
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:09:46 GMT
Distribution: fj

General question:  Does anyone have a compilation on Linda's performance?
		Esp. that of C-Linda?  On any system...

Specific question:  We seem to have been unable to run more than 4 or 5
		C-Linda processes on a LAN of Sun SPARCstations?  Even
		the simplest programs -- some taken from a paper by
		the guy who started Linda and some other dude on parallel
		programming -- lock up if more than 4 Suns are involved.
		Any comments?

Thanks for any useful info.

Bugs
From: rolim@cui.unige.ch
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.parallel
Subject: Fellowship at the University of Geneva
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:14:49 GMT
Distribution: fj

The Computer Science Department at the
University of Geneva, Switzerland  is
offering either a post-doctoral or a PhD.
fellowship starting on January, 1993.

The candidate should work on a project 
aiming to generate from an abstract specification
a  probabilistic parallel algorithm.
We require knowledge of the theory of formal
specification of concurrent systems and/or
experience with randomized algorithms.

The position is for two years and salary ranges
around Sfr. 50.000 / year ( about US 40.000/year).

In order to apply for the position
send the resume via email to rolim@cui.unige.ch
as soon as possible.
More informations can be obtained upon request at the
above email address.
From: kaushik@godzilla.cis.ohio-state.edu (shivandan kaushik)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.parallel
Subject: References Wanted: Polling systems for Modeling Bus-Based Systems
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:31:17 GMT
Distribution: fj

Hi,

	I'm looking for articles describing the use of polling systems
	for modelling bus based systems. Polling systems are used for
	serving requests by several ( possibly buffered ) users in 
	a cyclic order with generally nonzero switchover times between
	users. Thanks in advance.


*********
Shivnandan Kaushik | e-Mail: kaushik@cis.ohio-state.edu
From: isc20210@nusunix1.nus.sg (BU SEE TIANG)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.parallel
Subject: Help in understanding concurrent programming concepts
Date: 2 Oct 92 11:44:49 GMT
Distribution: fj

Hi, 
   Can someone out the tell me more about concurrent programming. I am
currently doing a study about concurrency in programming languages. Does
anyone have any paper on concurrency in programming languages,
especially those about its concepts. Would you please kindly email me
the paper. Is there also any kind soul out there that can recomment me
some books on concurrent programming languages. Thank in advance.

   My email is buseetia@iscs.nus.sg
From: iwp@cs.man.ac.uk (Iain Phillips)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.parallel
Subject: Re: Transputer simulator for SUN
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:29:18 GMT
Distribution: fj

In article <1992Oct1.123642.24233@hubcap.clemson.edu>, muenkel@tnt.uni-hannover.de (Heiko Muenkel) writes:
>I use the "isim" simulator from the Inmos C Toolset and I think that there
>isn't a ".pgm-file". Is this a specific file for OCCAM or is it an undocumented
>feature ?

The .pgm file in occam is the configuration file.  It is similar to the .cfs
file in the ANSI C toolset, but a more occam-style language is used.

Iain Phillips         Iain.Phillips@cs.man.ac.uk or @uk.ac.man.cs
Dept of Computer Science, University of Manchester, M13 9PL. U.K.
From: glossa@cix.compulink.co.uk
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.parallel
Subject: POSIX Threads?
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:18:19 GMT
Distribution: fj

I understand that there is a draft POSIX threads standard under the
name PThreads. Does anyone know how I could get to read it?

Tom Lake     GLOSSA@cix.compulink.co.uk
From: dpa@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Dr. Dharma Agrawal)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.parallel
Subject: Call for papers-Special Issue of Parallel and Distributed Processing
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:16:23 GMT
Distribution: fj

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\begin{center}
{\large \bf Call for Papers}\\
\vspace{.25in}
Special Issue of the\\
{\it Journal of Parallel and Distributed Computing}\\
{on}\\
{\bf Performance of Supercomputers}\\
\end{center}
\vspace{0.25in}

Papers are solicited for a special issue of the {\it Journal of Parallel
and Distributed Computing (JPDC)} on Performance of Supercomputers,
 to be published in October 1993.
\vspace{0.25in}

This issue will publish ten (10) regular papers (about 30 double-spaced
manuscript pages) and four (4) research notes (about 15 double-spaced
manuscript pages). Topics of interest include, but are not limited to
$\colon$
\begin{itemize}
\item Architectural Characteristics
\item Performance Evaluation Techniques
\item Applications
\item Algorithms
\item Benchmarks
\item Parallelization Techniques
\item Programming Language Issues
\item Scalability Issues
\end{itemize}
\vspace{0.25in}

Authors should follow the {\it (JPDC)} manuscript format described in the
``Information for Authors" at the end of each issue of the journal. Submit
five copies of a complete double-spaced manuscript to any of the co-guest editors.
Submissions must be received by no later than October 1, 1992. Authors will be
notified of the final publication decision by March 1, 1993.
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Box. 7911 \> Dept. of Computer Science and Automation\\
Dept. Of Electrical and Computer Engg. \> and Supercomputing Education and
Research\\
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Raleigh, NC-27695-7911, USA \> Bangalore - 560012, India\\
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From: srikant@skorpio.USask.ca (Srikant Subramaniam)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.parallel
Subject: Info needed on KSR machine
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:14:37 GMT
Distribution: fj

I would appreciate receiving some references to the Kendall Square Research
machine. 

Thanks,
-- 
----- 
 |\/\/\/|      Srikant Subramaniam.
 |      |      srikant@cs.usask.ca
From: alf@uni-paderborn.de (Alf Wachsmann)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.parallel
Subject: Re: Transputer simulator for SUN
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:16:56 GMT
Distribution: fj

In article I wrote:
|> 
|> Hi,
|> 
|> assumed
|> 1. I have a SUN but no Transputer-Board and
|> 2. I want to compile OCCAM programs for Transputer-Networks and
|> 3. I want to test if the programs are correct
|> 
|> What can I do?


The main hint was given by Iain Phillips (Iain.Phillips@cs.man.ac.uk)
who suggested to use the Inmos OCCAM Toolset "isim" simulator.

This program simulates a T425-Transputer on a SUN and it IS
possible to simulate great transputer networks if you set
the UNIX environment variables IBOARDSIZE to something large.

Additionally you have to declare the memsize in the .pgm-file
sufficiently large (e.g. SET Root(type, memsize := "T425", 104*mega) ).

I tried it with a 26 Transputer network without any problems!


Many thanks to Ian,

                          Alf.


-- 
*     Alf Wachsmann                | Uni/GH Paderborn                  *
*                                  | FB 17 Informatik                  *
*     e-mail: alf@uni-paderborn.de | Warburger Str. 100                *
*     Phone:  +49 5251 60 3312     | D-W-4790 Paderborn                *
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From: txhou@king.mcs.drexel.edu (Xinjun Hou)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.parallel
Subject: Distributed Computing
Date: 1 Oct 92 12:37:57 GMT
Distribution: fj

Could someone point it out where I can find some programs for
distributed computing in a heterogeneous environment? The program
should include job schelduling, using idle computer and datat
passing.  All level of job control are welcome, assuming the
environment is running UNIX or alike.

Information leads to this programs are also appreciated. 


Thanks in advance

Xinjun
-- 
--- Xinjun Hou ---                         |  Dept of Phys and Atmos Sci
txhou@mcs.drexel.edu       [129.25.7.10]   |  Drexel University
houxj@convex.drexel.edu    [129.25.1.200]  |  Philadelphia, PA 19104
010110000110100101101110011010100111010101101110010010000110111101110101
From: davis@csrg2.ee.iastate.edu (Jim Davis)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.parallel
Subject: Are the Livermore Loops benchmarks PD ?
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:13:06 GMT
Distribution: fj

Are the Livermore Loops benchmarks public domain; and if so, where
can I ftp them from?

Thanks,

Jim Davis

davis@iastate.edu
From: strickla@usc.edu (Bryan Strickland)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.parallel
Subject: Opening at Parasoft Corp. for Senior Programmer
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:17:50 GMT
Distribution: fj

************************************************************************
THIS IS BEING POSTED FOR A FRIEND, PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS ACCOUNT.
************************************************************************

ParaSoft Corp., located just 20 mins outside of L.A., in Pasadena CA,
has an immediate opening for a senior programmer to work on our
Express development team.  Express is a Parallel and Distributed
Development Environment running inside a large class of parallel
computers and on networks of computers.  The individual will be expected
to lead projects, perform detailed product design, develop and
document code, develop and document testing procedures, and to develop
application codes on top of Express.

The successful candidate should have a Computer Science or Engineering
degree. MSCS or PHD preferred.  Requirements: Very good and extensive
knowledge of: UNIX Operating System, Networking, Communication
Protocols, C and FORTRAN.  Experience with parallel and/or distributed
computing is a plus.  Experience with leading commercial software
group is required. Must be able to work in a fast paced environment.

ParaSoft offers a competitive salary and excellent benefits (health,
dental).The position will be based in our Pasadena, CA. Corporate
Headquarters.  

Qualified candidates should forward resumes to:
ParaSoft Corp.  
2500 E. Foothill Blvd., Suite 104 
Pasadena, CA 91107.

Interested applicants may also send email to ukola@parasoft.com with
any questions regarding the position.
From: cmcl2!allan.ultra.nyu.edu!gottlieb@uunet.UU.NET (Allan Gottlieb)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.parallel
Subject: New Fujitsu Computer (VPP500)
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:29:11 GMT
Distribution: fj

I have read the reports posted here and even heard a Fujitsu talk at
PACTA'92 in spain last week but still have two questions.

1.  What is the cycle time?  I can do backwards calculations from
MFLOPS and number of pipes but cannot be sure how many results each
pipe produces each cycle.

2.  Is it really a 200x200 crossbar (I know it is more than 200)?
Fujitsu slides say crossbar but also show pictures of omega like
networks.  Specifically, can all permutations be realized without
blocking?

Thanks,
allan gottlieb
From: rajagopa@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.parallel
Subject: applications of parallel procesing to business problems
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:14:49 GMT
Distribution: fj

Anyone that has had experience with applying parallel processing to problems
in the business world. For example, in the areas of risk management, simulation
of economic systems,....Please let me know your ideas/thoughts on the project
you worked on. I am looking for a problem that will benefit from applying 
p.processing.

thanx 

rajagopalan b.

e-mail address:  "rajagopa@memstvx1.memst.edu"
From: cpr4k@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Christian P. Roberts)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.parallel
Subject: Re: Distributed Computing
Date: 1 Oct 92 17:02:22 GMT
Distribution: fj

In article <1992Oct1.123633.24149@hubcap.clemson.edu>,
txhou@king.mcs.drexel.edu (Xinjun Hou) writes:
|> Could someone point it out where I can find some programs for
|> distributed computing in a heterogeneous environment? The program
|> should include job schelduling, using idle computer and datat
|> passing.  All level of job control are welcome, assuming the
|> environment is running UNIX or alike.
|> 
|> Information leads to this programs are also appreciated. 
|> 

Check PVM through netlib@ornl.gov.  The source comes with
examples in C and Fortran and PVM is designed to work in a
heterogeneous environment.

--

Chris Roberts                     Academic Computing Center
cpr4k@virginia.edu                University of Virginia           
(804) 982-4693                    Charlottesville, Virginia 22903
From: fpst@hubcap.clemson.edu (Steve Stevenson-Moderator)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.parallel
Subject: No posting on 9/29/92
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:49:05 GMT
Distribution: fj

I'll be out of town tomorrow. Next postings will probably be late Wednesday
morning.

=========================== MODERATOR ==============================
Steve Stevenson                            fpst@hubcap.clemson.edu
Administrative address                     steve@hubcap.clemson.edu
Department of Computer Science,            comp.parallel
Clemson University, Clemson, SC 29634-1906 (803)656-5880.mabell
From: kornfeld@leland.Stanford.EDU (Judith Kornfeld)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.parallel
Subject: Info Needed:Scalar-to-parallel conversion tools
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:14:32 GMT
Distribution: fj

Looking for tools and methods to convert scalar FORTRAN and C to
parallel FORTRAN and C. Sources sought for 3rd-party products and 
techniques to support the conversion process.

email:	kornfeld@leland.stanford.edu
voice:	(415)327-2216

Thanks!