From: tc2u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Tieju Chen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Why don't you stay ?
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:48:49 GMT
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Organization: Masters student, Information Networking Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.china: 11-Sep-92 Why don't you stay ?
Y.C. Liang@nuscc.nus.sg (2655)

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> > > 
> > > ....
> > > ==========================================================================
> > > Treaty is something between two governments with full sovereignty.
> > > How many people in this WORLD still think that Taipei is a legitimate
> > > and sovereign government? If not, how can one sign a tready with it?
> > > Not to mention Beijing!!!!!
> > > c.q.
> > > ========================================================================
> > > ....
> >

> Beijing government controls most of the land and calls itself "People's
> republic", just like North Korea does.  Taipei government controls a
> small amount of land and remains "Republic", just like South Korea
> except the land size is very small.  BECAUSE OF THE LAND SIZE, people
> tend to think "People's republic" represents China.

> However, Taiwanese government has its own independant political and
> financial systems.   How to verify this ?  There are several simple ways
> which I may be able to tell Mr. c.q.

> (1) Bring any Taiwanese currency(cash) to any banks in Asia to see if
>     they accept them as a legal tender.  I will say yes.  They accept
>     it.

> (2) Bring any Taiwanese passport(with name "republic of china" on cover)
>     to any consulate to get visa to any country, to see if they accept
>     it as a legal travel document.  I will say yes.  They accept it.

> (3) Ask any travel agency to see if "China Airlines" flys to Taipei or
>     Beijing.  They will tell you, it flys to Taipei.

> (4) Ask anyone "is Taiwan a communist country", people will say no and
>     say "I think you mixed it up with China, China is a communist
>     country".  Doesn't that mean it all.   

> (5) After Tien-ann-men crackdown, all overseas Chinese students were 
>     more or less granted a visa to stay overseas.  What they mean 
>     "Chinese students" are not "Taiwanese students".  They understand that 
>     Beijing government has no whatsoever control on Taiwanese, therefore they
>     are not in danger and they do not need any visa for humanity
>     protection.  

> I do quite agree with Mr. Alan Yang's posting earlier.  If you truely
> believe that China is a great place to stay, why don't you stay.  If you
> guys do not like to stay and ask (or suggest) Taiwanese to stay, that is
> too much.  

> Of course, if China becomes a better country which you guys like to
> stay, Taiwanese will go over and stay even you guys try to stop them.
>>>>

	Totally agree,  when one a country become strong, people will attach
with her and vice versa. I believe most the "make to believe endangerous
students" wanted to state here because economically than any other
reasons.  However these people should not feel shame of any of these.
This is just human nature. All they need to do is to admit it that
everyone is looking for better living and work oportunity. 
	If there is one day that China will ever become Strong( economically),
everyone will flock back to China.
	See you guys back in China in your next life.


-Tie Ju Chen
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china