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From: drudetb@infonode.ingr.com (Ted B. Drude)
Subject: Re: Orchid or Viper s3-805 video cards?
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 06:23:22 GMT

>|> In article <8650@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com> hwrvo@kato.lahabra.chevron.com (W.R. Volz) writes:
>|> >
>|> >Does anyone have an useful info on either a Orchid Farhenheit or
>|> >the Viper s3-805 VESA Local bus graphics cards? I looking at two
>|> >systems that proclaim that these two cards are the fastest. The
>|> >Viper claims 53 Winmarks while the Orchid doesn't say. 
>|> 

Well, I've now got the data sheets from Diamond right in front of me:

Diamond Viper VLB - Weitek P9000 accelerator, VESA Local Bus,  1 or 2 MB VRAM, 
	50 Winmarks (v2.5) @ DX2/66 - Price $449 @ 1MB,  $549 @ 2MB

Diamond Stealth Pro - S3 928 accelerator, VESA LB or ISA,  1 or 2 MB VRAM, 
	35 Winmarks (v2.5) @ DX2/66 - Price $349 @ 1MB,  $499 @ 2MB
	
 Diamond Stealth 24 - S3 805 (VESA LB) or 801 (ISA),  1 MB VRAM, 
 	No Winmarks stated - Price $249

>What machine was this done on. Also how much cache and ram and
>what was the video mode set to.  It all matters. 

Diamond says that the benchmarks were run on a DX2/66 (no elaboration). 
They show a bar chart comparing the Viper VLB to the ATI Ultra Pro VLB
(50 vs. 29 Winmarks). I did some testing on an ATI Ultra Pro VLB myself,
 using a 486DX2/66 (w/256K cache and 8MB RAM).  The ATI UP I tested had
2MB VRAM and was running in the 1024x768x256 color mode.  I got 30+
Winmarks consistenly w/ Winbench 2.5, using the 1.1 release drivers,  
but only got 28 w/ the original ATI drivers.  So I think the board
drivers have a lot to do with Winmark performance. 


>An add for Comtrade gives the Orchid Vesa LB using the s3-805 at  
>44.5 winmarks on a dx2-66.

I suppose it's possible,  but that's better than what Diamond is
claiming for their Stealth Pro and Viper VLB boards, both of which are
both supposed to have faster accelerator chips than the 805.  Maybe
Comtrade is mixing up Orchid's W9000 board with their 805 board. It will be
interesting when some real world benchmarks start appearing that test
the VLB versions of these boards against each other.

- Ted D.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: lundby@pabst.comm.mot.com (Walter Lundby)
Subject: Local Bus (VESA or INTEL) Ether Card sources? 
Reply-To: lundby@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola LMPS Research, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:38:02 GMT


I remember seeing local bus ethernet cards on display at 
COMDEX (Chicago) this summer. I also saw some ads awhile
ago that I can't find now.  

Does anybody know who makes Local Bus Ethernet Cards?

Who sells them?

What chipsets are used?

Which version(s) of Local Bus?

Any packet drivers?


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: nathan@hal.COM (Nathan Hoover)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: SpeedStar 24X - driver problems
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:30:30 GMT
Organization: HAL Computer Systems, Inc.
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In <1gal28INNgc5@agate.berkeley.edu> aron@luxor.ced.berkeley.edu (aron bonar)
writes:

> What about the 32,768 color drivers for 640x480 and 800x600?
> Have you had any problems with those?  If not, why don't
> you use them?

I also had the MS/Works problems in the 256 color modes, but normally use 
800x600x32768, and it works almost perfectly.  I do get some funny black
spots in XTreeWin, but it is not a problem.  It's quite fast too (using
486SX25 with either 4 or 8MB RAM.)

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From: kd@doc.ic.ac.uk (Kostis Dryllerakis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: SCSI Interface:terminator and ID information required
Date: 14 Dec 1992 15:25:46 GMT
Organization: Imperial College, London, U.K.
Distribution: world
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Keywords: SCSI


Dear all,

	I suppose that my ignorance on SCSI systems is deep but I need the following
information quite fast:

	My controller requires that there are terminator resistors at both ends of
	the SCSI bus. The one end is supplied by the board itself (Adaptec 1542B)
	the other must be provided by a SCSI device. Currently I have connected
	my hard disk at ID 1 with the resistors powered. Now I want to add a tape
	drive on the SCSI interface. Where do the terminators go? To the last SCSI
	target? To the last physical device on the cable? Do targets have to be
	connected on the SCSI bus according to their ID (i.e. 1 first then 2 etc...).
	I would prefer not to change the configuration of the HD at ID1 and just add
	the tape drive with the resistors powered off. Could that be done? (e.g. by
	connecting the tape first onthe SCSI cable and the disk next?)

I must admit I am quite confused about the subject. If anyone can shed some light
on my problem please send e-mail. If more people require to know the answer I will
post a re-cap.

Thanks in advance

Kostis

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From: tomw@orac.asd.sgi.com (Tom Weinstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: EISA vs. ISA -VESA Local Bus MotherboardsDIR
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:38:07
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc.
	<1992Dec11.181215.315@csghsg5a.bitnet>
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In-reply-to: lmebold@csghsg5a.bitnet's message of 11 Dec 92 18:12:15 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.181215.315@csghsg5a.bitnet>, lmebold@csghsg5a.bitnet writes:
> In article <TOMW.92Dec10205510@orac.asd.sgi.com>, tomw@orac.asd.sgi.com (Tom Weinstein) writes:

>> EISA runs at 8.33 MHz.  Comparing this directly to ISA's 8 MHz (even
>> taking into account the 32-bit/16-bit difference) can be misleading,
>> however.  EISA's maximum transfer rate is 33 MB/s.  ISA's maximum is
>> 8 MB/s, but in most systems, and for most cards, it can only get
>> 5.33 MB/s.

> When you say you can only get 5.33 MB/s with EISA, look what you get with
> ISA in real life! EISA just IS faster than ISA.

That's not what I said.  I said EISA runs at 33 MB/s peak, while ISA
runs at 8 MB/s peak, and 5.33 MB/s average.

> I'd be careful when buying a local bus pc. Although der is a VESA standard
> that still doesn't mean that all these pc's will be compatible. If you want
> to go with local bus I would suggest you make up your mind on what you want
> to get and buy that - it's not guaranteed that you can upgrade later on.

True.  You can never be sure.  On the other hand, if you find out your
board is incompatible, you can always use the $500 you saved over buying
an EISA system and replace it.

> Apart from that EISA has more advantages like IRQ-sharing, DMA-functions
> (with ISA bus you cannot address more than 16MB RAM directly - EISA can),
> easier setup of new cards (you don't need to set any jumbers - at least it
> should be like that; there are still some cards which need to be jumpered).
> Furthermore EISA is a standard and you can use every EISA-card in every
> EISA-system (just like ISA-cards in ISA-systems) whereas with local bus
> that's not possible.

> My suggestion: If you can afford it, get an EISA.

My suggestion:  If you are using software that needs the advantages EISA
provides, get an EISA.  Otherwise, get a VL-bus, and save the $500.

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From: bandaru@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Krish Bandaru)
Subject: Re: 486SLC chip.... what is it?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 06:05:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.033749.1675@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> colfelt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Andrew BW Colfelt) writes:
>
>Are ALL SLC chips made by Cyrix?
>
>Colfelt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU
>--

Certainly not!
IBM has a set of chips with the SLC suffix to indicate an x86 chip
(licensed of course) with a lower (L) power option and really good
cache (C) management.  

The `C' at the end of Cyrix's chips is merely a way for them to paste their
stupidity on their products....a safeguard for customers, no doubt.


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From: adhir@wam.umd.edu (Al Dhir)
Subject: How to change IRQ of modem
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:45:23 GMT

Hello all, I have a 486/50eisa, am running OS/2, and have tons of cards
in my machine, including a v.32bis faxmodem, a 2s/1p/1g/2ide multi I/O
card, a Gravis Ultrasound, a SCSI card, a eisa IDE card and an eisa
video card.  My question is this:

I have seen numerous references to some techinique by which people modify
their cards (or their motherboard?) to force it to use a different IRQ.
Presently, I have one of my COM ports disabled since my modem insists on
being either IRQ3 or IRQ4, and my piece of junk multi I/O card insists on
the same.  What I want to do is somehow rig the modem to be on IRQ2 or on
one of the IRQs between 10 and 15.

Can someone send me detailed instructions on how to do this, please?

Much obliged...

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From: jamesj@netcom.com (James Janssen)
Subject: Re: 16550 UART
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 18:31:57 GMT

mllang@snobol.cs.psu.edu (Matthew Lang) writes:

>In article <2DEC199223515160@rosie.uh.edu> st1vn@rosie.uh.edu (Fontenot, Kenneth) writes:
>>
>>  Could anyone tell me it the Infotel 14.4 modem have a 16550 UART chip.
>>  What about the Zoom 14.4 fax/modem?
>>
>>      Kenneth st1vn@jetson.uh.edu
>Yeah, I got the Zoom internal and it has it.  I think almost all internal 
>modems have one of the UART chips in 'em.  I have not idea what the difference
>between the UART chips is, but I like my Zoom!

>Matt

Well,  I don't know about the Infotel 14.4 modem, But I bought a Zoom
14.4 external, and it does not come with the 16550 UART chip.  I had
to buy that separately and put in onto a socketed serial card.  I
doubt the Intel comes with one either.  If you do buy one seperately
make sure its the 16550 afn.  Its the latest model and is apparently
far supperior.


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From: root@cibbs.UUCP (Mark Buckaway)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Now they say the ATI Graphics Ultra/Pro will not do 50 MHz ..?
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 01:29:02 EST
Organization: DataSoft Consulting (Toronto, Ont. Canada)

lestrade@Ra.MsState.Edu (John Patrick Lestrade) writes:

> Help!  A quote I got on a 486/DX 50 included an ATI Graphics Ultra PRO
> with 2 megs RAM.  Now they say that the ATI will not run at 50 MHz and
> they want to substitute an ET4000 card.  Are they doing a bait and
> switch?  I heard good things about the ATI and was excited about getting
> it.  Has anyone heard of the ET4000?  Help...all replies will be
> greatly appreciated.

It amazing me sometimes the garbage dealers tell their customers. I am a
dealer myself and handle ATI products. I have talked with LOTS of customer's
with full blown 486DX/50 systems and ATI cards function properly....though if
you Motherboard says MADE IN TIAWAN(SP)...can you really expect it to be
compatible?

Just be wary of the problem with the ATI Pro card. If you have more then 12Meg
in the system, you can't turn on their memory apeture as that can it. This
causes a problem with the supplied Windows drivers because they need the
memory aperture to run. I guess ATI assumed if people have the ISA bus, they
are not going to get much RAM. Anyway, ATI has fixed the problem and have the
new driver to correct for this. It can work with or without the memory
aperture. Incidently, you can print with it as well. They had a problem with
that one too.

If you buy the card, and the software with it is 1.0, CALL THEM OR THEY BBS
and get the driver that works! PRO50.ZIP at (416) 756-4591.

Mark

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From: labach@acs.ucalgary.ca (Terence Michael Labach)
Subject: Re: ATI is making me mad
Originator: labach@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:01:55 GMT
Organization: The Bobby Jurasin Fan Club

In article <1992Dec9.025915.14990@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> frigo@psl.wisc.edu
(Sean P. Frigo UW-Madison SRC (608)877-2332,-2001(FAX)) writes: 
> 
> Where are the OS/2 drivers?  It's been out for 8 months and there's nothing.
> Calling ATI is a waste:  A rude person answers that doesn't even acknowledge
> you've reached ATI.  Phone etiquette notwithstanding,  I have friends who
> have bought UltraPros that now seem like they were not entirely finished.
> They are buggy and the promised windows drivers a mess.  Reading this
> newsgroup confirms this.

And don't bother writing to ATI either.  At least not if you like
companies you purchase goods from to reply to your concerns.  ATI has
nice hardware, but seems content to treat their customers like shit.

- terry -
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From: Timothy.Brown@f119.n8012.z86.toadnet.org (Timothy Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: 60Hz with 1024x768x25
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 12:53:00 cdt
Organization: FidoNet node 86:8012/119 - Millennium, O'Fallon MO

 -=> Quoting Eric Wolf to All <=-

 EW> From: ericwolf@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Eric Wolf)
 EW> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1992 17:57:38 GMT
 EW> Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
 EW> Message-ID: <ByyCK4.2yp@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
 EW> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

 EW> I am interested in knowing about running 1024x768x256 on a
 EW> non-interlaced monitor running at a 60Hz refresh rate.  Is 60Hz too
 EW> slow for this mode?  Will it flicker?  And if so, will the flicker be
 EW> too annoying to use?

 YES, the flicker WILL be too annoying to use.. WAY too annoying... I would
 get a monitor with at LEAST a 70hz refresh rate..... Hope i've been a help..

                                        -Timothy Brown


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From: goyal@utdallas.edu (MOHIT K GOYAL)
Subject: Re: EISA/VL-Bus combination MBs #2
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 07:00:56 GMT

>Detailed information is described in the standard. 
>			Un-buffered Design	Buffered Design
>			Slots	Devices		Slots 	Devices
>33MHz or slower		2	2		3	3
>40MHz			1	2		(not recommended)
>50MHz or faster		0	2		(not recommended)
>
What's the difference between unbuffered and buffered?

Does one offer better performance, or are they the same, and a
buffered design simply lets you add one more device to a 33mhz system?
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:18:10 EST
From: Jim Foster <MADIF@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Video Acceleration for MCA?
 <1992Dec16.024631.15392@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>

In article <1992Dec16.024631.15392@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, colfelt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU
(Andrew BW Colfelt) says:
>
>In short, 8 Winmarks for the ATI 8514-Ultra is VERY
>respectable, faster than the Orchid ProDesigner IIs.
>IBM's XGA-2 is not yet rated by the Winmark suite.
>(IBM is not the only supplier of XGA-2.)
>
I get about 9.75M Winmarks (v2.5) running Windows v3.1, 1024x768x256-small
fonts with the new XGA-2 drivers.  My test machine is a model 95 DX2-50
with 24MB RAM.  BTW, I get just over 6M Winmarks running under WINOS2
(OS/2 v2.0 w/service pack).
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From: bz754@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Derek J. Wojciech)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Help!  My friends 8512 PS/2 VGA monitor fried!!!
Date: 16 Dec 1992 14:58:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Yesterday a friend of mine got home to find his 8512 monitor freaking out.
The intensity level was oscillating in and out, accompanied by an intermintent
hissing noise.  He has left the monitor on constantly for about 4 months (he
bought it used.)  So he turned off the monitor.  Waited a few secs, then
turned it back on.  Then no picture, but white/grey smoke started pouring
out the top of the monitor.  He shut it off immediately.  So, can anyone
diagnose the problem with this limited description?  Should he attempt to
look at the internal wiring (possible wire burnout?)  Is there a IBM service
number he could call?  He bought it used so doesn't have warranty information.
Would it be worth taking to a computer store for repair?  Any advice
would be greatly appreciated.  Thanx!

                                        Derek


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From: steve1@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Steve Beaton-Snook)
Subject: TEAC FD235JS SCSI 3 1/2 Floppy Drive (need help)
Keywords: TEAC,SCSI,HELP,ME
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:49:08 GMT

 I have a TEAC FD-235JS  SCSI 3 1/2 inch floppy drive Im trying to hook up
 to a ADAPTEC AHA-1542 SCSI Controller card. Unfortunatly I have no docs
 at all on the floppy drive and I cant seem to be able to read any disks
 put into the drive or even format new ones. The drive is recognized as
 being there by my controller but thats about it. Is there anyone out there
 who might have access to the specs for this drive and would like to give me
 a hand? The error Im getting is a drive not ready.

    Current jumper settings on the board are:

    oo  EJC
   [oo] J 
   [oo] H 
    oo  G       Jumpers on SCSI interface card on drive
   [oo] F 
   [oo] LEV
    oo  HDS
   [oo] STL
   [oo] PAR
    oo  MON


    oo  AC
   [oo] RE
    oo  IR     Jumpers on main board of Floppy drive
    oo  RY
    oo  D2
    oo  D1
   [oo] D0

Thanks in advance.


Stephen Snook   steve1@morgan.ucs.mun.ca



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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: Amiga now kicks PC butt - no way.
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:11:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec3.014534.16766@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dmacphee@nyx.cs.du.edu (Don mac phee) writes:

> The 4000 ships with 6M of Ram and a 120M drive. Besides, you need to
>remember that OS/2 and Windows eat the first 2M of Ram when you
>boot up. The Amy eats about 300K.
                             ^^^^


And how big did you say those OS ROMs were? What do you do to upgrade
a version?






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From: swyatt@ravel.udel.edu (Stephen L Wyatt)
Subject: MFM and IDE HD's
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:52:20 GMT

I have one question.. I have an ISA-bus 386/33, and an MFM controller card.  if I get an IDE
drive, can I get another IDE controller card and just put the thing in another slot..

will that work?  


also... Is it possible to get a 486DX2/66 (33 - bus speed one) and just replace the CPU with that?
will my bus/motherboard accept it?  I also have a co-processor socket... can I use that instead?
any opinions out there?

please email, since I don't regularly read this newsgroup..


thanks alot.

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From: shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu (David S. Shy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Why does 8Mb RAM mean swapping?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 03:28:45 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: avalanche.berkeley.edu

>>Can someone who understands these things tell me why I get so much swapping
>>in OS/2 with 8Mb RAM?  I'm using a 33MHz 80386.


how much swapp?  i believe 4 megs of swapp w/ 8 megs is consider 
normal... i have 12 and it's always sat around 2....
the lowest it'll go is 2 megs...

of course, have you isntalled the csd?  if you have, try deleting your
swap file and let os/2 recreate it by itself... supposely, there was
a problme that os/2 was not deleting the old stuff and was keeping
part of hte pre-csd swapp file around...

hope this helps


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