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Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Cyrillic Word Processing Program
From: Dimitri Vulis <DLVGC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 11 Jan 1993 19:07:33 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

If your 8088 has at least EGA or VGA, check out CYRILLIC.ZIP on
Simtel20 (in MSDOS.EDITORS or some such).  It's got Cyrillic screen
and 9-pin Epson fonts ("Cyrillic" means Russian, Ukrainian and Serbian)
and a Russian keyboard.  Source code is included.

Disclaimer: I wrote it.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
From: LODEESENJ@adminb.rferl.org (Username was LODEESEN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Soviet space disaster?
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:26:12 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

The cosmonaut in question, Komarov, perhaps the most intelligent man to have
been sent in space, may, if the stories are true, have died as a result of
a failure in planning, and, again if stories are true, was aware as he
orbited, that safe reentry was not a possibility.  The claim in Moscow at
the time was that he communicated to the command center before his ship
disintegrated some rather unsavory comments, including the wish that the
Soviet Union expire.  These rumors were circulating in Moscow within 48 hours
of the news that he had died.  Among the various stories which may not be
verifiable, this would be one of the ones worth tracking down.  Was there a
cover up?  Was it to protect national prestige or to protect the reputations of
people in charge of the space program?  What kind of internal discipline was
exercised.
  At the time of his death, I was a young diplomat at the American Embassy in
Moscow and the version of his death given to me in greatest detail included
both accurate information not at that time publicly available but easily
verified AND the claim that his last words were to curse the Soviet Union.
Disinformation?  Revelation?  Guesswork.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:11890 soc.culture.europe:11047 talk.politics.soviet:10274
From: viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: Bilingualism - a good cause!
Date: 7 Jan 93 12:40:23 EST
Organization: Midwest Rat's Hole

In article <1993Jan7.133532.4232@jyu.fi>, ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti) writes:
> Matthew Huntbach (mmh@dcs.qmw.ac.uk) wrote:
> : In article <1993Jan7.083616.15949@jyu.fi> ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti) writes:
> : >Matthew Huntbach (mmh@dcs.qmw.ac.uk) wrote:
> : >So you compare the asians of London with the russians of Estonia?
> : 
> : Well, if I were to advocate treating Asians in the UK in the
> : same way that Russians in Estonia are being treated, I would be
> : accused of being a racist and fascist.

> So how soon an asian immigrant gets a citizenship in Great-Britain?
> On which terms?  Is hindi an official language of Great-Britain?
> Are there any plans for making hindi an official language in GB?

Let me remind our wonderful Finnish kids that in democratic
countries, there is no such notion as "official language".
(US is one example).
Apparently only those who have serious doubts about
true value of their culture and language, who are trying
to "preserve" or "defend" them against alien influence.
Certainly English culture as any great culture doesn't
need to defend itself.

Serega

> : 
> : In fact, Wales is now fully bilingual, there are schools where
> : the teaching is entirely in Welsh for those that want it, Welsh
> : may be used for all legal purposes in Wales, all government
> : documentation is available in Welsh.
> 
> Great-Britain should give up Northern-Ireland.
> Scotland should get her independence.
> : >
> : Oh, I see, I must keep my mouth shut because of what a few
> : toffs did centuries ago. Well, whatever next "your grandfather
> : robbed a bank, but as he's dead we'll imprison you instead"?
> 
> Sorry for my hard words, I apologise, I wrote bad.
>  
> : 
> : How many wars and conflicts occur, because people cannot grasp
> : this basic principle? Yes, it is a good thing to be proud of
> : your own culture, but not at the expense of someone else's. You
> : might as well say that you will show how much you love your
> : mother by beating someone else's mother. When men take this
> : sort of attitude they are worse than beasts.
> : 
> I would like to ask whether you consider it correct that Algeria pulled
> out the frenchmen after the liberation of Algeria. Over 1 million
> frenchmen had to leave Algeria. Should they have to stay there?
> 
> What about Germans should they have to become citizens of France after
> occupying Paris in 1940's ?
> 
> regards,
> jarmo
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: alewis@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Andrew Lewis)
Subject: Re: translation problem
Organization: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 05:43:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.184530.9989@midway.uchicago.edu> serg@appmath.uchicago.edu (Sergey Reznikov) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.132839.3633@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> seltzer@ics.enet.dec.com (Richard Seltzer) writes:
>
>>I still haven't been able to figure out "zhigo."  It appears only 
>>once, in the following sentence: "my vstretili Novyy god za 
>>otlichnym uzhinom, sostoyavshim iz supa, svarennogo iz ubitoy 
>>kozy, koz'ygo zhigo i khoroshego kofe."  It seems to be some 
>>edible part of a goat.  Can anyone tell me more?
>
>Probably, a typo.  Should be "zhira", i.e., fat.
>
>
>Sergey Reznikov

Lots more fun if it's a typo for "zhivogo".  Mmm-mmm good!

Andrew Lewis
alewis@gibbs.oit.unc.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 09:44:09 EST
From: <BAV2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: some Soviet emigre restaurant jokes
 <1ifh8hINNnmh@agate.berkeley.edu> <C0GCI7.7Er@fiu.edu>
 <103888@netnews.upenn.edu> <93007.013227DLVGC@CUNYVM.BITNET>

After reading this long discussion I understood at last what is the main
cause of ..hm.. special nature of this group. Their main contributors
are just from the barracks!

One quotation. Mikhail Zhvanetsky (sorry, quoting as I remember - no text
on hand):

I mysli u nas soldatskiye, i razgovory u nas soldatskiye, i razvlecheniya
u nas soldatskiye, i shutki u nas soldatskiye, i mechty u nas soldatskiye,
i zheny nashi soldatki, i lechenie, i pokhorony posle nego u nas
soldatskiye.

To be more serious, this discussion proves that soviet culture indeed exists,
and is indeed a barrack culture.

With compliments

-Boris
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: igor@cs.columbia.edu (Igor Pankevich)
Subject: Re: Soc.Culture.Soviet (was Re: some Soviet emigre restaurant jokes)
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:45:53 GMT

In article <93011.100017BAV2@psuvm.psu.edu>, <BAV2@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> I initiated this discussion, so I hope I may make a couple of comments.
> 
> 
> There is a side branch of this discussion, whose ancestors sat on the
> trees, and whose founded Universities. I would not like to discuss
> pedigree, but as I remember, American Universities were opened even
> later then ours. You want to say that the pioneers were from Europe? But
> did they visited European Universities before mounting their ships? Or,
> even more vivid, do you know who founded Australian state?
> 

Well, this is not exactly a valid argument. The pioneers didn't establish any
higher educational institutions. People who before that graduated from English
universities did. Can you imagine a farmer (no offence to farmers) starting out a
university? Evrey-dvornik?

> 
> To make it short. I think we are going through national catastrophe
> (everybody agrees?). Therefore we must understand and revise our
> cultural heritage - no other way out. The attitude to personal values
> and personal dignity must be revised and changed. And this attitude is
> in OUR - mine, yours, his, hers - background. And s.c.soviet proves it
> clearly. Any contradictions?
> 
I am sorry, but I don't think you can revise your heritage. I don't mean you
personally, but people in general. If you are raised to be "xam" (what is it
in English?), you will be that. It takes something extraordinary to remake this
kind of a person. And if you are a true "intelligent", you will remain that no
matter what, and please forgive me if this is a banality to someone (like it is
for me). The bad (here) thing is that people don't usually change their views and
ways of thinking. 

> -Boris
> 

--Igor P.
From: zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Soviet army starshina.
Date: 8 Jan 93 22:22:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1993Jan8.172252.19121
Organization: The Phallogocentric Cabal

In article <93008.043358DLVGC@CUNYVM.BITNET> 
Dimitri Vulis <DLVGC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:

>In article <1993Jan8.011625.19092@husc3.harvard.edu>,
>verbit@brauer.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky) says:

>>In article <93007.212557DLVGC@CUNYVM.BITNET> 
>>Dimitri Vulis <DLVGC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:

>>>In article <1993Jan7.174213.19075@husc3.harvard.edu>,
>>>verbit@brauer.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky) says:

MV:
>>>> many (like me) simulated psychic disability,

DV:
>>>Are you sure you 'simulated'? ;)
>>>Disclaimer: you don't have to simulate psychic, telepathic, or
>>>sexual disability to be a CUNY student!

MV:
>>Gotta got rid from the sucker!

DV:
>In English one says 'get rid _of_ the sucker.
>It's also more conventional to conceal your psychic ability than
>to simulate psychic disability, if you're Kashpirovsky.
>And I don't think you had to simulate _psychiatric_ disability.
>Why can't those zhlobs from Odessa learn some English?
	   ^^^^^

Presumably, for the same reason you can't learn to say "these",
when the zhlobs from Odessa are clear and present.

>Dima

cordially,
mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
"Le cul des femmes est monotone comme l'esprit des hommes."
From: sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Sergei Borodin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: some Soviet emigre restaurant jokes
Date: 12 Jan 93 02:30:11 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1993Jan11.163310.1@jaguar.uofs.edu> mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu writes:
>In article <103868@netnews.upenn.edu>, sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Sergei Borodin) writes:

>>>s Ohio), a osobenno s predstaviteliami eio Vnutrennikh Voisk, koim ia
>>>iavliaius'.
 
>>   Zagadka: Chto obschego mezhdu militsionerom i govnom?

>Vy, uvazhaemyi,-- muzhik, bydlo, kham, gandon i pr.  Sravnivat' Nat.Guards s
>'mentami' -- eto vse ravno chto nazyvat' nas 'cops' ili sravnivat' palets s 
>zhopoi.

  Ja mogu tol'ko nadejat'sja, chto v Natl. Guards sluzhat ne tol'ko
  idioty. Gde vy, Martynov, uvideli sravnenie Natl. Guards s 'mentami'?
  Chto kasaetsja "muzhika", soglasen - ne devochka. Po-povody bydla
  ne soglasen. A na gandon vy sami bolshe pohozhi.

>Vyrazhenie 'Vnutrennie Voiska' iavliaetsia, pozhalui, samym blizkim perevodom,
>no ni v koei mere ne tochnym, tak chto necha k slovam pridirat'sia.  Eto dazhe
>kak-to ne solidno... 

  A vy, Martynov, pishite tak, chto-by vas ponimali odnoznachno.
  Pisali to vy pro vnutrennie voiska, a ne pro Natl. Guards.
  Nikto ne objazan dogadyvaat'sja, chto vy imeli vvidu i byl li 
  eto perevod s anglijskogo ili patsan sluzhil v VV v CCCP.
  Kak napisali za to i poluchili.

  Teper' otgadka: oba iz vnutrennih organov. 


>A po povodu govna mogu skazat' tol'ko odno:  ot govna i slyshu!

 A vy i vpravdu glupovaty. Vas-to ved' nikto ne obzyval.
 Vy pohozhe krome mata nichego ponjat' ne v sostojanii.

>A my s Mishei Martynovym voobshche, ochen' uvazhaemye liudi.  Ne khotite
>prisoedinit'sia?

 Net.  
 
>>  S.B.


>A eto chto za khuinia? 
>S glubokim uvazheniem,

>Michael Martynov.

 Bez takovogo,
 S.B.
From: HAUGLAND@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU (Laurie Haugland)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: USA source for videos of Russian movies?
Date: 13 Jan 93 04:16:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: NUACVM.16B5413932.HAUGLAND
Organization: Northwestern University

In article <93012.095011ICBAL@ASUACAD.BITNET>
<ICBAL@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
 
>
>Does anyone know of a good American mail-order source for videos of Russian
>movies? English sub-titles would be nice, but not necessary.  The standard
>video catalog available in most video stores only has about a dozen titles.
>I know the Kamkin bookstore has another handful of titles.  Does anyone
>know of a good source, both of the "classics" (such as War and Peace--not the
>short dubbed version) and the more recent films?
>
>Bruce Long
>Arizona State University  icbal@asuvm.inre.asu.edu
 
Try: Facets Multimedia, Inc.
     1517 W. Fullerton Ave.
     Chicago, IL 60614
They put out an extensive catalog every year, plus periodic updates.  I know
that they have several Tarkovsky films, the Glasnost Film Festival collection,
and other recent and older titles that I can't think of off-hand.
   I don't think that interlibrary loan is a possibility.  Northwestern's
library media center does not allow the videos to leave the building in any way
and I believe that most academic libraries have a similar policy.  Because most
of these videos are difficult to obtain, even through library channels, some
people might keep the video and just pay the fine to the library for "losing"
it.  I see this type of thing happening with out of print books.
 
Laurie
Northwestern University Library
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: peterson@CS.ColoState.EDU (james peterson)
Subject: Re: Soc.Culture.Soviet (was Re: some Soviet emigre restaurant jokes)
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 22:32:21 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <1ikri9$7v1@agate.berkeley.edu> muh@physics2 (Yury M. Mukharsky) writes:
>
>I doubt anybody knows the answer, and I'm not sure the feature you pointed
>out has much to do with it. On my side I would point to the fact that
>first university in Europe is dated 11-th or 12-th century, and in Russia
>(or better Ukrain) to 16-th or so 17-th. 
>

Has no one heard of Plato's Academy, or Aristotle's Lyceum?  I suppose
now we'll get to quibble about what a "university" is......

-- 
james lee peterson				peterson@CS.ColoState.edu
dept. of computer science                       
colorado state university		"Some ignorance is invincible."
ft. collins, colorado  (voice:303/491-7137; fax:303/491-6639)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: igor@cs.columbia.edu (Igor Pankevich)
Subject: Re: Looking for Odessa info
Keywords: Ukraine, Odessa, Okner
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:18:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.165526.9992@socrates.umd.edu>, okner@socrates.umd.edu (Benjamin Okner) writes:
> My grandfather lived in Odessa in the late 19th century and my father and
> four aunts and uncles were born there.  I believe that my grandfather also
> had one or two brothers who lived in Odessa.  
> 
> I have recently discovered Okner relatives still living in other parts of
> Ukraine (Bershad and Tulchin) and think there is a good possibility that
> there are still Okners living in Odessa.
> 
> I wonder if anyone knows whether there is a fairly up-to-date Odessa
> telephone directory?  I understand that there are also "propiska lists"
> that link people and their residences that might be available.  If anyone
> has access to these sources, or has any other suggestions re getting
> information, I would be most grateful.
> 
> Also, does anyone know if there is such a thing as e-mail to Ukraine or
> Odessa?  I seems that ordinary mail often does not get thru.
> 
> Dosvedanya!
> 

I believe that, Odessa can not possibly have an up-to-date phone directory. 
People are leaving it so fast... By the way, my opinion is that Odessa is the 
biggest (in terms of population city in the world. Not only there are people
leaving there now, but everywhere in the US and Israel, people are telling me
that moist of the local "Russian" population come from Odessa. Not to mention 
the city I have a pleasure to write from: NYC. I mean it: everybody is from
Odessa. Those who are not from Odessa, are from Bobruysk. I have to admit, I knew
this city existed when I lived in Russia, but I couldn't imagine that it would
have a bigger population that, say, Leningrad, my native city. I mean no offence
to people who are from thoce places (Odessa and Bobruysk), but can somebody
please tell me how come there are so many of them?

--Igor P.
From: kilman2y@fiu.edu (Yevgeny Kilman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: some Soviet emigre restaurant jokes
Date: 6 Jan 93 21:46:54 GMT
Organization: Florida International University, Miami

In article <1ifh8hINNnmh@agate.berkeley.edu> muh@physics1 (Yury M. Mukharsky) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.125821.1@jaguar.uofs.edu> mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu writes:
>>s Ohio), a osobenno s predstaviteliami eio Vnutrennikh Voisk, koim ia
>>iavliaius'.
>
>Gospoda lejtenanty, vam ne kazhetsja chto u etogo parnja mania velichija?
>Vsego-to mladshij serzhant, a oret kak praporschik.
>
>Yury M.

Mi takih leitenantov v armii ebali polenim v jopu!!!!!
Poka vciakie umniki priatalic' op voennim kafedram, chesnie jidi gorbili
v ebannoi sovetskoi armii. Kogda mne v chast' popadali etakie leitenanti, 
to ia prigalashal vseh churok srat' v ih sapogi i ssat' v pilotki, chto oni i delli s bol'shim entuziazmom. Osobenno zapomnil ia odnogo jirnogo moskvich
kotorogo ia pimal nochiu v stolovoi poedaiushim hleb. Ia etogo ubludka zastavil
sest' pol lotka!

Starshina.
From: sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Sergei Borodin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Soc.Culture.Soviet (was Re: some Soviet emigre restaurant jokes)
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:16:14 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <93011.100017BAV2@psuvm.psu.edu> BAV2@psuvm.psu.edu writes:


>..................... To understand what I mean just read a couple of
>articles in s.c.japan or s.c.french  (please don't throw SOME articles
>from these newsgroupsd on me).

  You want ALL of them?

>To make it short. I think we are going through national catastrophe
>(everybody agrees?). Therefore we must understand and revise our
>cultural heritage - no other way out. The attitude to personal values
>and personal dignity must be revised and changed. And this attitude is
>in OUR - mine, yours, his, hers - background. And s.c.soviet proves it
>clearly. Any contradictions?

 Even if "we are going through" a national catastrophe, which I doubt,
 why must we revise our cultural heritage? I'm also quite satisfied 
 with my attitude to "personal values". If you think that you need a 
 change then go ahead and do it.  And the last. The good thing about
 computers is that you always can turn them off. Or hit "u" if you
 don't like the attitude of a particular newsgroup.


>-Boris

 S.B.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: igor@cs.columbia.edu (Igor Pankevich)
Subject: Re: Nowogodnij prizyw
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:33:58 GMT

In article <ewiPwB1w165w@bwalk.dm.com>, dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dimitri Vulis) writes:
> Sowetskie \migranty!   Nahalxnee dobiwajtesx welf\ra, fudst\mpow,
> medikejda i wosxmoj programmy!
> 
> S nowym godom,



				FUCK YOU!

--Igor P.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: dennisn@ecs.comm.mot.com (Dennis Newkirk)
Subject: Re: First astronaut?
Organization: Motorola
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:15:06 GMT

In article <93004.124821X30KB@CUNYVM.BITNET> TimeLord <X30KB@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
> (or something like that). He told me once that Gagarin was not the first
>astronaut ever. Supposedly there was another one before him - I believe, that
>one's last name was Bondarenko, but his ship exploded on start.

On March 23, 1961 during a ground test in an isolation chamber, Valentin
Bondarenko was killed when a flash fire started in a pure oxygen
atmosphere. He was training for a Vostok mission.

Dennis Newkirk (dennisn@ecs.comm.mot.com)
Motorola, Land Mobile Products Sector
Schaumburg, IL
From: kilman2y@fiu.edu (Yevgeny Kilman)
Subject: Glubokie izvineni'a ( starshina i t.d. .... )
Organization: Florida International University, Miami
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 03:46:52 GMT
Keywords: strashina and related flame....

Dami i Gospoda:

Kak vi mogli dogidat'sa, mnogie studenti seichs na kanikulah. Posle 
tajologo semestra, ia vospol'zovalsa korotkim pererivom v uchobe
chto bi vospolnit' balans alkogol'a v moei krovi :)
V rezul'tate vi imeli vozmojnost' procitat' bred netrezvogo cheloveka.
K sojaleniu, chitateli etoi newsgroop, stali kleimit' netol'ko men'a
( chto ia vpolne zaslujil ) no i drug druga. 
Ia gluboko sojaleu o sozdanoi mnoi obstanovke i izvinaus' pered
kajdim kogo ia mog v toi ili inoi stepeni oskorbit'. 
Pokorneshe proshu uvajaemih chetatelei s.c.s. prekratit' nachatuiu
mnoi perebranku. Esli je kto schitaet, chto emu/ei neobhodimo viskazat'sa
po etomu povodu, e-mail na moi address i ne pogan'te net kak eto sdelal ia.

Pokorneshe vash,
Y.K.
P.S. Eshe raz prochitav kopii sostrapannih mnoi stat'ishek hochu 
     dobavit' chto v nih daleko ne vse pravda.
P.P.S. Dla lubopitnih: pil to ia Absolut Kurant... Horosha!!!!!



Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:11927 soc.culture.europe:11071 talk.politics.soviet:10300
From: tammet@cs.chalmers.se (Tanel Tammet)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: Bilingualism - a good cause!
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:36:54 GMT
Organization: Dept. of CS, Chalmers, Sweden

In article <15365.2b4c24b7@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
... Stuff deleted ...
>Let me remind our wonderful Finnish kids that in democratic
>countries, there is no such notion as "official language".
>(US is one example).

Unfortunately you are wrong even when speaking about USA, where you live.
For example, there IS a requirement of mastering English as
a precondition for naturalization in US (as you may not know,
naturalization concerns people who are not born as citizens of
USA but wish to become citizens). Etc. 

>Apparently only those who have serious doubts about
>true value of their culture and language, who are trying
>to "preserve" or "defend" them against alien influence.
>Certainly English culture as any great culture doesn't
>need to defend itself.

Completely agreed. You define greateness as size. All
physically small cultures have to defend themselves.
Even relatively large cultures like French are concerned.

Regads,
	Tanel Tammet
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:11802 talk.politics.soviet:10216 soc.culture.europe:11004
From: muh@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Yury M. Mukharsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: No revenge (Was: Russian Speakers in Estonia
Date: 5 Jan 1993 00:41:32 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.berkeley.edu

In article <1993Jan3.203147.1@cc.helsinki.fi> thietaniemi@cc.helsinki.fi writes:
>
>Even as an idea it is so despised by the majority of Estonians that 
>deportations are the most unlikely outcome in the Estonian near future.

Just imagine the process of deportation in details, and you will understand
why it's the most unlikely outcome.

The idea of deportation of Russians from Estonia may be considered a good
(if only a little too black) joke.

Yury M.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet