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From: efk00@cd.amdahl.com (Eddie Kieger)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: @*^#*$%## California -- what color reflectors CAN one use?
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:46:19 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

As a point of reference, I have had a blue dot in my taillight for the 
past 1.5 years (since I moved here from NY), and have NEVER had a 
problem with law enforcement. Suffice to say that I have seen (and 
been seen by) many SJPD/ Sunnyvale PD/ CHP/ etc., as I ride to work 
ALMOST every day (like for instance last week through the monsoon 
season). Am I just lucky?? I'll wait & see......

Later, Eddie

Don't tread on me..........................................I bite
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Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Subject: Re: Helmet Recomendations Wanted
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:20:13 GMT

In article <liphaqINNfqn@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> emarsh@hernes-sun.Eng.Sun.COM (Eric Marsh) writes:
>Hi,
>
>    My wife is thinking about getting me a new helmet for Christmas,
>and I'm interested in hearing what people have to say about the
>various products that are out there. For years I have always used
>a Bell, because it was one of the two or three really high quality
>helmets; this is no longer the case, it seems that there are lots
>of high quality helmets available today.
>
>My criteria is as follows:
>
>1> It is better to pay less money than more money for an equivelent product.
>
>2> I'm a sports rider, so full coverage is a must.
>
>3> Less weight is better than more weight.
>
>4> The main reason I'm getting a new hat is because I'm tired of all
>   the wind noise I'm currently getting from my loose old Star II.
>   The less wind noise the better.
>
>5> It would be nice if I could find something that would match the
>   color scheme of my gray and red 84 Ninja and black and red leathers,
>   but I can settle on a solid color.
>
>6> Is anything being done in terms of dealing with the aerodynamic 
>   behavior of helmets, i.e. lift at high speeds?
>
>7> I've never had a helmet with all the various cooling ducts that
>   are available today. What are the pros and cons of various ducted
>   helmets?
>

Motorcyclist has done some comparisons over the years. One of them led
me to check out Nolan. I've been very pleased with the comfort and 
visibility of my N35JSW, and the venting works quite well. For way under
$100, it's hard to beat. The only ones I liked as well were the Arai Signet
and Shoei X8, both of which cost hundreds more. Notice I said I liked as 
well, not better. Price was important.

Jeff Achenbach
From: anniey@ocf.berkeley.edu (Annie H. Yip)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Attn all riders!!!
Date: 13 Dec 92 23:48:55 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility




ATTN: All Scooter and Motorcycle rider........



California Cycles has a full parts and service department.  Mention this ad

and get 10% off on your next parts purchase!


       California Cycles

       5433 San Pablo Ave.

       Oakland, CA 94608

       (510) 601-0166
From: thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Battery Charger $5, NAPA Auto Parts
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:25:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

tedcrum@garnet.berkeley.edu (Ted Crum) writes:

>I just bought a 3 amp charger at an NAPA store for $5 (including $10
>mail-in rebate). Should be perfect for M/C's (but 12v only). I assume
>the offer is good nation-wide.

Does the charger have a lower charging rate available?  3 amps is triple
the recommended charge rate for most motorcycle batteries.
-- 
Paul Thompson    Apple Computer    DoD #47    Would you remember a 1-line .sig?
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: jimi@well.sf.ca.us (Jim Isom)
Subject: Re: @*^#*$%## California -- what color reflectors CAN one use?
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:58:12 GMT

In <1gavg8INNrfm@morrow.stanford.edu> karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish) writes:

+In article <1992Dec11.023458.28720@adobe.com> cjackson@adobe.com
+(Curtis Jackson) writes:
+>In article <1g85k1INNijk@fido.asd.sgi.com> spencer@hailwood.asd.sgi.com
+(Paul Spencer) writes:
+>}This is a BIG no-no. Even blue dots in taillights will get you into deep

+happening in front of them.  Amber running lights create a
+potential ambiguity as to whether you're looking at the
+front or the rear of a vehicle.

How about FLASHING amber lights on a bike?  What, if anything does or will the
CHP say about such things?

+    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
+    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@pangea.stanford.edu
-- 
Jim Isom            jimi@well.sf.ca.us             |     2b+~2b=1 
'92 R100GS (Frau Chauchat), GSXR-750M (Nefertiti), '86 Radian (Minerva)
From: spencer@hailwood.asd.sgi.com (Paul Spencer)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: @*^#*$%## California -- what color reflectors CAN one use?
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:27:43 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: hailwood.asd.sgi.com

Do you mean _REFLECTORS_ (passive devices), or _LIGHT_LENSES_ (active)?

Rear LENSES may be red, or amber for turn signals only.

Rear REFLECTORS I'm not sure. The vehicle MUST be equipped with a red
rear reflector; ones in other colors may or may not be legal.


In both cases, there are three categories:

 - colors that are legal;
 - colors that may not be legal, but that cops will ignore;
 - the color blue. DO NOT have blue lights on your bike (unless you
   are trying to collect tickets).

....paul

-- 
Paul Spencer                 Silicon Graphics Advanced Graphics Division
spencer@sgi.com                                Mountain View, California
From: jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: @*^#*$%## California -- what color reflectors CAN one use?
Date: 14 Dec 92 05:09:09 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. For info contact: info@BTR.COM

In article <1992Dec12.201240.29344@netcom.com> dman@netcom.com (Dallman Ross) writes:
>Well.  I wish more cops would use this one to rid the road of those
>nauseating Christmas-light-style license-plate frames.  :-)

Speaking of xmas lights, tonight I took a left turn 1 block earlier than usual
to avoid the red light, and I know I should have looked before I turned, but the
block is always empty, and I took it for granted that it would be this time. 
As I complete the turn, I see 3 cars that have just made the opposing right 
turn onto the same block stop, leaving me in the middle of the road. As I 
assess the situation, I realize that this usually quiet, almost deserted block 
of multi million dollar homes has now become the largest consumer of energy
this side of the mississippi. There are xmas lights on every bloody leaf and 
twig on the block, and the whole modern world has come, in their cars, to view
this electrical orgy. There is a line of cars going down the block at a lame 
snail's pace, and another coming up. All have only their parking lights on, I 
guess that's the xmas light viewing etiquette. Well I, deciding I've had enough
cagerrhea for the weekend, pull into the middle of the road and proceed, loudly
and with reckless abandon, to rocket down this block, terrorizing caged viewers
young and old. The only thing missing from this otherwise perfect display of
cager-induced moto-assisted lawlessness was not having my front wheel 4 feet 
off the ground.
>
jim 
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*   Jim Franklin * jamesf@btr.com OR {decwrl,mips,fernwood}!btr!jamesf      *
* 1987 Cagiva Alazzurra 650 (so sweet)    Insert witty, profound, humorous, *
* Triumph 650 (slalom champ) | elitist, esoteric, plagiarized, acrimonious, * 
* DoD #469          KotP(un) | generalizing, and/or pedantic remark here.   * 
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
From: mayer@sono.uucp (Ron Mayer)
Subject: Re: lane-splitting etiquette
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:57:08 GMT


cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) <1992Dec17.054343.1274@adobe.com> wrote:
>2) There *is* a CA state law that says you cannot change lanes unless you
>   have first signalled your intentions for 100 feet[...].
>4) There is also a law that says your entire vehicle has to be within the lane
>   boundaries [...]
>6) Some localities, such as the City of San Jose, have anti-lane-sharing
>   ordinances. [...]

You missed one.  Since all lane splitting is done at the DoD nominal speed,
you're going 104.9 mph above the average speed of traffic, which is
probably against some law.

Oh, and (kinda like countersteering) law #4 listed above doesn't work
on my bike because with the BMW saddlebags on it barely fits within
the lane boundaries even without lane splitting.

    Ron Mayer
    mayer@acuson.com

Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: cj@eno.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio)
Subject: Re: Where to get silk glove liners in south bay?
Reply-To: cj@sgi.com
Organization: SGI TechPubs
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 00:27:33 GMT


In article <1992Dec14.015203.13037@netcom.com>, avery@netcom.com writes:
|Now, here I have a piece of junk mail from Carol Wright, selling glove liners
|and socks which claim to be of aluminized fabric and a spinoff from NASA.
|I'll send away for some of these soon, and let y'all know how they do.

I did quite well with a pair of glove liners from the North Face
Outlet.  They're knitted from some DuPont fiber called
"thermax".  I tested them on my commute yesterday, and they
did quite well.  Better than silk.  (My silk glove liners are
from a sporting goods store, and were made for golfers.)

Other warm items:  I also bought a pull-over from North Face,
to wear under my leather jacket.  Not cheap at $69, even from
the outlet, but it was toasty.  My jacket has a snap-in liner,
but I find my arms still get cold.  The pull-over kept 'em warm.

Land's End has silk turtlenecks for $30.

---
C J Silverio	cj@sgi.com	ceej@well.sf.ca.us
'92 Seca II	DoD #0526
Xref: sparky ba.motorcycles:1190 rec.motorcycles.harley:1620
From: mellon@ncd.com (Ted Lemon)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: lane-splitting etiquette
Date: 17 Dec 92 23:37:20 GMT
Followup-To: ba.motorcycles
Organization: Network Computing Devices, Inc.
In-reply-to: efk00@cd.amdahl.com's message of 16 Dec 92 16:51:12 GMT


I too do my best to always wave at motorists who do nice things for
me.   However, be careful about waving when you're 'splitting -
'splitting is an activity which requires a great deal of
concentration.   Taking your eyes off of the road, or your hand off of
the brake or clutch marginally reduces your ability to respond if a
car tries to merge through you.

			       _MelloN_
--
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Member of the League for Programming Freedom.   To find out how software
patents may cost you your right to program, contact lpf@uunet.uu.net
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: markt@cup.hp.com (Mark Thompson)
Subject: Re: Mike Felder's phone?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:45:33 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4

I called (510)555-1212 and asked for concord infromation.  He always sends me
cards when i deal with him but i never have them here, sorry.

Mark
From: marc@dumbcat.sf.ca.us (Marco S Hyman)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Attn all riders!!!
Date: 17 Dec 92 03:51:42 GMT
Organization: MSH Software, Hayward, CA

In article <1992Dec15.213351.28412@netcom.com> dmatejka@netcom.com (Daniel Matejka) writes:
 >   Is it just me, or is this exactly the kind of commercial crap which
 > is completely out of place on internet, and strictly forbidden?????


Mild flame...

While the article may have been in bad taste and out of place --
	USENET IS NOT THE INTERNET AND NOTHING IS FORBIDDEN!

Sorry, the forbidden comment just happend to push a button.

... end flame

On the subject of Motorcycles, my winter gloves have worn through after three
years so my wife gets to get me a Christmas/Birthday present.  They were a
combination leather/gortex that kept the fingers mostly dry in the wet stuff.
Anybody see anything like them?

// marc
-- 
marc@dumbcat.sf.ca.us -- pacbell!dumbcat!marc
From: cpaull@arctic.mti.sgi.com (Christopher Paull)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet Recomendations Wanted
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:14:42 GMT
Organization: Mips Technologies, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: arctic.mti.sgi.com

In article <8478@public.BTR.COM>, sfi@public.BTR.COM (Stefan Fielding-Isaacs  sfi@btr.com) writes:
|>  I've used Shoeis exclusively for the last six or seven years. I've had
|>  the RF series, the GRVs and now the new X8. I've noticed that they are
|>  always a very snug fit when new and wear out within about a year. However,
|>  they've saved my ass^H^H^Hhead several times now. They aren't as quiet
|>  as some others (Marushin of all things), nor as well-vented as some.
|>  However, they are consistently amongst the lightest helmets and have
|>  excellent quality faceshields (I find both the clarity and the resistance
|>  to scratches very important). They also protect very well.
|> 
|>  You can buy 'em for as little as $225 in solid colors. 
|> 

I have a Shoei RF200.  The fit is much better, and the noise level much less, than my old Crown
helmet.  I picked it up at Zoom for about $160 or $170 (solid Color)...  This was about
2yrs ago, so I don't know how much this price has changed.

-- 
Chris Paull -- cpaull@sgi.mti.com 
USPS: MIPS Technologies, Inc. 20111 N. Shoreline Blvd.
      P.O. Box 7311 M/S 10L-175  MountainView, CA  94039-7311
PHONE: (415)-390-4424  VOICE: "Yo, Chris!"    -- Standard Disclaimer --
"Mere words do not suffice, to understand you must experience."
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From: tedcrum@garnet.berkeley.edu (Ted Crum)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Battery Charger $5, NAPA Auto Parts
Date: 17 Dec 1992 18:56:48 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu


*Trickle* charger? If you don't ride at least once a week, even in rainy season,
you should sell your bike, or turn it into a coffee table if it's something pretty. But seriously folks, another solution to small battery overcharge is to connect a very small 12v light bulb between the charger and the battery. The non-
linear v/i curve gives useful current limitation. 

-TC
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles.harley
From: dmatejka@netcom.com (Daniel Matejka)
Subject: Re: lane-splitting etiquette
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:50:37 GMT

In article <27M902dv2fGz01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> efk00@cd.amdahl.com (Eddie Kieger) writes:
>Howdy all:
> [...]
>know I am aware of, and appreciate their gesture. Now comes the wierd part. 
>Frequently I see the same cars doing this, and they are starting to wave 
>back. Not only that, (it may be my imagination), but it SEEMS to me that 
>there are more and more cars pulling over for me. Now I always go to work 
>at almost the exact same time, so I am sure that most of thjese people see 
>me every day, and I must say that there are DAMN few bikes on the road (at 
>least few FINE LOOKING HAWGS (tm)), so they probably recognize me. Is it 
>possible that my being pleasant and waving is actually to my benefit????? 
>[...]

  I've found a Statistically Significant Correlation between the
price of the paintjob and the sincerity with which a cage gets out of
your way.  People in Ferraris, say, will spot me in their rearviews
long before you'd even hope they would and pull so far over
they're a menace to the groundhogs that live on the shoulder.
Xref: sparky ba.motorcycles:1207 rec.motorcycles:42305
From: jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Time to find a frame shop and replace forks...
Date: 19 Dec 92 22:19:36 GMT
Followup-To: ba.motorcycles
Distribution: ca
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. For info contact: info@BTR.COM

In article <JET.92Dec18165125@boxer.nas.nasa.gov> jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>
> -- brit-style japanese chopper.  strip off all the plastic and
>nonsense stuff, increase the rake a degree or three, get longer forks,
>a set of ape hangers, spoked wheels, and a solo tractor seat.  And
>paint the thing black with that high-quality Krylon brand paint.

I'd vote for this one. But I'm a bit biased...

>Hints, suggestions, clues, offers of insanity?

I believe the go-kart idea has been brought up already... :-)

jim

-- 
*   Jim Franklin * jamesf@btr.com OR {decwrl,mips,fernwood}!btr!jamesf      *
* 1987 Cagiva Alazzurra 650 (so sweet)    Insert witty, profound, humorous, *
* Triumph 650 (slalom champ) | elitist, esoteric, plagiarized, acrimonious, * 
* DoD #469          KotP(un) | generalizing, and/or pedantic remark here.   * 
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
From: ramarren@apple.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi)
Subject: Re: Battery Charger $5, NAPA Auto Parts
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:33:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple Computer
Followup-To: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles

> I just bought a 3 amp charger at an NAPA store for $5 (including $10
> mail-in rebate). Should be perfect for M/C's (but 12v only). I assume
> the offer is good nation-wide.

First off, 3A is way too high for trickle charging a 12-20 amp-hour 
battery. 10% of the rated amp-hour capacity is normally considered 
the maximum charge rate you should use if you don't want to compromise
the life of the battery. That means, for your typical 14-16 A-H moto
battery, 1.4-1.6A charge rate should be *maximum*; 1 amp is what I 
have used for years with good results.

With all due respect to the economies of a cheap trickle charger, I've 
fought with these buggers for years. The cheap ones typically have rather
variable output, no charge limit capabilities, and have to be tended 
continuously for someone who is putting a machine into storage because
of their tendency to overcharge and boil a battery.

I'd been looking for a decent solution to this problem for a bit. I own 
a couple of bikes at least one of which, for various reasons, will 
frequently not get used for a couple of months at a time. I've wanted
a 'plug it in and forget it' solution, not something I had to go and 
monitor water levels, charge rates, etc. on a daily/weekly basis.

MOTORCYCLIST January '93 issue, on page 78, reviews a product named 
"Battery Tender" marketed by Deltona Power Supply (800 456-7901). It's a
heavy duty, extremely well made gizmo with a 1.25A charge capability, 
battery load sensing charge limiter, and a 'storage charging' feature.
This latter says that it will not continuously trickle charge the battery.
When it goes into this mode, it holds the battery's voltage to be just 
above the internal resistance threshold and keeps it at full charge 
without the possibility of drying out or overheating the battery.

I've had this on the Honda for a month and a half now, completely
unattended while I've been unable to ride. I am extremely happy with the
performance -- a test with a specific gravity meter shows the battery to 
be exactly at spec for full charge and there's been no loss of battery
acid to date. I would heartily recommend that this (somewhat expensive
at $60) battery maintenance solution will pay for itself within a year
or so in battery life extension and reduction in battery maintenance.

Check out the article for a more complete discussion. This is high
quality stuff and worth every penny.
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From: dman@netcom.com (Dallman Ross)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: @*^#*$%## California -- what color reflectors CAN one use?
Date: 12 Dec 92 20:12:40 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

Jack Hamilton (jfh@netcom.com) wrote:
: From my copy of the vehicle code (10989, so things may have changed):
: 
: [lots of interesting stuff deleted] 
: 
: Flashing Lights   25250
: 
: Flashing lights are prohibited on vehicles except as otherwise permitted.
: 
Well.  I wish more cops would use this one to rid the road of those
nauseating Christmas-light-style license-plate frames.  :-)

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From: dboddy@pulsar.lrmsc.loral.com (Dave Boddy 5973)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: @*^#*$%## California -- what color reflectors CAN one use?
Date: 14 Dec 92 13:28:18 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Loral Rolm Mil-Spec Computers


	When I went to the DMV to take the test for my mototcycle permit I picked up
	a copy of the California Vehicle Code.  It costs three dollars and has everything
	you wished you'd never asked about traffic regulations :-) 

-- 
Dining on Duckheads..Driving over Dickheads..Dunking of Donuts...Damn i usta know...
DoD # 0677   (408) 432-5973  dboddy@pulsar.lrmsc.loral.com
Xref: sparky ba.motorcycles:1204 rec.motorcycles:42274
From: walsh@optilink.COM (Mark Walsh)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Interesting challenge of helmet law
Date: 18 Dec 92 20:46:00 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

Didn't anybody see this?  A 73 year old man in Bakersfield
is challenging California's year old helmet law on
religious grounds.  Apparently he was cited while riding
his moped, and his explanation to the judge that his
religious beliefs requiring him to wear a turban (sp?) just
didn't cut it.  I can see it now:  "Come join the Church
of Free Flowing Hair!"  Are there any other challenges
like this?
-- 
Mark Walsh (walsh@optilink) -- UUCP: uunet!optilink!walsh
AOL: BigCookie -- Amateur Radio: KM6XU@WX3K -- USCF: L10861
"What, me worry?" - William M. Gaines, 1922-1992
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: dman@netcom.com (Dallman Ross)
Subject: Re: lane-splitting etiquette
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 01:15:22 GMT

Ted Lemon (mellon@ncd.com) wrote:
: 
: I too do my best to always wave at motorists who do nice things for
: me.   However, be careful about waving when you're 'splitting -
: 'splitting is an activity which requires a great deal of
: concentration.   Taking your eyes off of the road, or your hand off of
: the brake or clutch marginally reduces your ability to respond if a
: car tries to merge through you.
: 
Exactly.  Well said.

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