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From: stanton@haas.berkeley.edu (Richard Stanton)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Need bunny treats, white chocolatish buttons, called "PIP"
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:45:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Haas School of Business, U.C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: connor.berkeley.edu

In England a few months ago I found some bunny treats in a pet shop. I 
bought a bag of little white buttons that smelt just like white chocolate (I 
didn't actually taste them) for 33p (about 60c). The name of these was
"Pip", I think, and Snuffles (the bunny) adored them. Now they're finished, 
and I want some more. I've tried real white chocolate drops, but he's not so 
keen (no problem - I'll eat them). I've also seen a box of white yogurt 
drops for about $200, which seems a little expensive.

Does anyone know anywhere in the US (preferably Marin, CA) where I can get 
these treats? They're in a plastic bag with orange writing on. 

Thanks for making a bunny's life a little happier.

Richard Stanton
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: pholland@iastate.edu (Paul J Hollander)
Subject: Re: How to Care for a baby mouse
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:58:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.175302.25250@njitgw.njit.edu> dcg5662@hertz.njit.edu (Dave Grabowski (KxiK)) writes:
>In article <1992Aug09.045936.20845@deeptht.armory.com> rstevew@deeptht.armory.com (Richard Steven Walz) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug7.173543.16586@unislc.uucp> chris@unislc.uucp (Chris DelPrete) writes:
>>>Hi there rec.petters!  Is anyone out there into mice?  Or rats?  I found a
>>>couple of baby mice about a week ago.  Their eyes were still closed and they
>
> (Deleted)
>>>5.  How old are they when their eyes open?  

The house mouse, _Mus musculus_, develops hair at 7 days, eyes open at 13 
days, weaned at ~21 days.  Can't say about other species of mouse, but they
shouldn't be much different.

>>>6.  And finally, does anyone know about mouse illnesses?
>
>Well, my allergist once diagnosed a mouse of mine as having pneumonia.
>The critter would just wheeze and wheeze and wheeze. He also had a real
>nasty disposition..
>
> (Deleted)

Euthanasia terminates all diseases and is the proper treatment for most
mouse diseases, IMHO.

Paul Hollander    pholland@iastate.edu
Behold the tortoise: he makes no progress unless he sticks his neck out.
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From: hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987)
Subject: Re: Info request on foxes
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 06:13:59 GMT

bproden@ualr.edu wrote:
: Hello netters!
: 
: Has anyone here had any experience raising foxes as pets?  I've heard they can
: be litter trained like a cat.  I read a book about a tamed fox in Scotland
: who was very gentle and got along with the dog and cat of the house.  I've
: seen baby foxes for sale in the livestock section of the local paper.  Just
: wondering if they make good pets.
: 
: Brian P. Roden

As far as I know, they are considered wild animals and may be illegal to keep
without the proper permits.  Check with your state's DNR or wildlife & game
commission to find out.


--

Dave Hinz  -  Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.  Obviously.
Pherrets are Phun!! 
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From: hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987)
Subject: Re: Jonny Cat Litter / Ferrets
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 06:20:36 GMT

Another stupid warning note I saw....

On the package for Top Cog <tm> fan belts (automotive use), the first step of
the instructions tells you not to change the belt while the engine is running.

I shit you not.

--

Dave Hinz  -  Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.  Obviously.
Pherrets are Phun!! 
hinz@picard.med.ge.com


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From: sv6f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Steven  Velasquez)
Subject: Re:  A new ferret owner's father
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:17:36 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.191332.15715@pixel.kodak.com> rhuls@liebnitz.ssd.kodak.com (Robbin Huls) writes:
>In article <BR0iPB1w164w@jwt.UUCP> bbs-anarchy@jwt.UUCP writes:
>>craigdo@microsoft.com (Craig Dowell) writes:
>>> 	Getting underfoot on the stairs.  I'll step on it and kill it or
>>> 	it'll trip me and kill me.  (It's chasing my feet)
>>
>> I too have stairs in my house, and I find the best solution is keeping the   
>>stairways and stair wells off limits.  One of those "dog gates" is ideal -- I
>>can step over it and the weasels are trapped.
>
>HA!  Jester figured out every gate I ever tried (and within minutes,
>too).  The darn things all have holes in 'em that she can grab on to and
>over she goes!  I have to use heavy duty cardboard or light plywood over
>whatever entrance I want to be off-limits, and then jam a (heavy!) chair
>against it.
>
>Robbin ;-)

I had a similar problem with my three ferrets (Bart, Lucy, and Oscar) in
that there hasn't yet been made a gate that they could not climb through
or over.  A friend of mine solved this problem by placing a vinyl carpet
runner (~ $1.00 /foot) over the gate.  Amazing results, the vinyl (clear
for aesthetics) prevents the ferrets from obviously climbing through, but
also it prevents them from getting any footing on the gate even if they
are strong enough jumpers to get their front paws on the top of the gate.

Hope this helps and prevents a barbeque,

Steven Velasquez
University of Virginia
Dept. of Physics
Velas@virginia.edu

P.S. The vinyl can be attached directly to the gate with duct tape.


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From: cboyd@irus.rri.uwo.ca (Cameron Boyd)
Subject: Re: Jonny Cat Litter / Ferrets
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 04:41:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.061711.26567@mr.med.ge.com> hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987) writes:
>
>Yes, but what happens if you pour the Dr. Pepper INTO the Johnny Cat Litter?
>FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM?
>--
>
>Dave Hinz  -  Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.  Obviously.
>Pherrets are Phun!! 
>hinz@picard.med.ge.com
>
>

My GOD! man, don't doo it!  You ne'er know wha' might appen!  I wont'
be held responsible when the whole net blows sky high!

:: Net police ::  STOP IT!  STOP IT RIGHT NOW.  You're all getting 
                  very silly...


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From: cboyd@irus.rri.uwo.ca (Cameron Boyd)
Subject: Re: bunny: more litter training problems
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 04:52:57 GMT

In article <mjc.714460293@NL.CS.CMU.EDU> mjc+@cs.cmu.edu (Monica Cellio) writes:
>I'm having problems litter-training Stuart and am hoping that someone
>here can help.  (He's not long for my house if we can't solve this, but
>I *really* don't want to give him up.)
>
some stuff about Stuart's bad attitude deleted...
>
>Can anyone here offer any suggestions?  Please?
>
>Monica


Is Stuart a male?  Has he been neutered?  If not, much of his stubborness
and bad attitude may simply stem from hormones.  I have personal proof
that neutering makes a world of difference in a bun's attitude and
trainability.

Cam
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From: fkilpatr@afit.af.mil (Freeman A. Kilpatrick)
Subject: Re: Jonny Cat Litter / Ferrets
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 19:01:27 GMT

bob@reed.edu (Robert Ankeney) writes:


>     And my favorite warning appears on a box of those cloth roller towels
>in restrooms.  It says something like:

>     Warning!  Improper use may cause serious injury or death!

>How, I wonder?  Well, maybe if you stuck your head inside and jumped...

Speaking of injury and death....  I recently bought a radial arm saw, admittedly a
genuinely dangerous product.  Of course the manual had two or three warnings per
page about hands, fingers, and arms being cut off.  The one that really suprised me
was the warning on one page about coutting your *leg* off.  It took me quite a few
days of pondering to figure out how that could be accomplished, but I haven't tried
it yet :).   I even figured out one way that you could cut your *head* off, and
there wasn't even a warning about that!

ak
-- 
Alex Kilpatrick  fkilpatr@afit.af.mil  
"Where the ENIAC is equipped with 18,000 vacuum tubes and weighs 30 tons, computers in the future may have only 1,000 vacuum tubes and weigh only 1 1/2 tons." 
---Popular Mechanics, March 1949
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: mwaldvog@ent1.ent.ncsu.edu (Michael Waldvogel)
Subject: Ticks, mites & fleas
Originator: mwaldvog@ent1.ent.ncsu.edu
Organization: Dept. of Entomology - NCSU, Raleigh, NC
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 11:13:58 GMT


In Message-ID: <Bsx7wM.4yy@news.udel.edu>, angela@brahms.udel.edu 
(Angela Lakwete) wrote:

>We don't need a biologist to identify mites from fleas, or ticks
>for that matter.  Ordinary literate folk can do just fine.  Get
>an insect id book and a magnifying glass.  Mites have eight legs.
>Ticks and fleas have six.  Pin 'em down with a straight pin and
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Only tick larvae have six legs, the remaining immature forms (called
nymphs) and the adults have 8 legs.

Mike Waldvogel
-- 
----------------------------------------------
| Michael Waldvogel  - waldvogel@ent.ncsu.edu |
| Dept. of Entomology, N.C. State University  |
| Raleigh, North Carolina  27695-7613         |
From: rhuls@liebnitz.ssd.kodak.com (Robbin Huls)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re:  A new ferret owner's father
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:13:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: pixel.1992Aug20.191332.15715
Organization: Eastman Kodak

In article <BR0iPB1w164w@jwt.UUCP> bbs-anarchy@jwt.UUCP writes:
>craigdo@microsoft.com (Craig Dowell) writes:
>> 	Getting underfoot on the stairs.  I'll step on it and kill it or
>> 	it'll trip me and kill me.  (It's chasing my feet)
>
> I too have stairs in my house, and I find the best solution is keeping the   
>stairways and stair wells off limits.  One of those "dog gates" is ideal -- I
>can step over it and the weasels are trapped.

HA!  Jester figured out every gate I ever tried (and within minutes,
too).  The darn things all have holes in 'em that she can grab on to and
over she goes!  I have to use heavy duty cardboard or light plywood over
whatever entrance I want to be off-limits, and then jam a (heavy!) chair
against it.

Robbin ;-)
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From: margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets,rec.pets.cats
Subject: Cats and Garlic & Brewers Yeast Tablets
Keywords: hurt the cat?
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:58:40 GMT
Followup-To: poster

Does anybody think that Garlic and Brewers Yeast tablets (that was
meant for the dogs, but the Siamese cat stole one) would hurt a
cat?  She's fine this morning, a little more talkative than usual.
I'm sure she ate it.  She even came back later looking for more.

You can email me if you want-

margaret@cs.arizona.edu

Thanks!
From: njl@drutx.ATT.COM (LaRocheNJ)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: rabbits spraying, how to stop?
Summary: Reasons for spraying & the value of pets
Date: 22 Aug 92 20:35:48 GMT
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

In article <1992Aug17.192721.10116@hubcap.clemson.edu>, jlysagh@hubcap.clemson.edu (james joseph lysaght) writes:
> I have determined that my stinky rabbits are spraying, either
> because we have brand new carpet, or because a cat lived in
> our apartment before us.  Either way, is there a way to stop
> the rabbits from spraying, or to kill the odor.

> Also, I am not paying $30 to alter a $3 pet.

If you value your pets based on what they cost you, you're not
getting your money's worth...

I don't know how you've determined that these are the reasons, but
chances are that your rabbits are spraying either because they are
reaching puberty or are engaged in a territorial dispute with each
other.  They are doing what rabbits, by nature, do, in a given set
of circumstances.  Not knowing the circumstances (ages, genders,
etc.) one can only guess at why they're doing it and how to correct
it.  I can assure you, though, that there is a way to stop the
spraying and there are ways to kill the odor, but they cost more
than the rabbits did.

I take it, from your comments, that these living creatures are no
different in your view than a cheap second-hand paperback book that
you wouldn't spend $30 to have rebound.  I'd be glad to explain
how to stop the spraying and how to get rid of the odor, but it
isn't worth my time to me if it isn't worth the cost to you.

I guess you've learned what we all leard at some point-- that
it pays to find out what you're getting into BEFORE getting
a pet, including what needs the pet will have and how much it will
cost to provide for those needs (and your own--e.g., the need to
have a reasonably clean smelling home and what that will require
given that you have chosen to bring this particular type of pet
into your home).  Whether it costs a lot or is free, purchasing
it is usually the cheapest part of having a pet.  

> Also, surgery to remove their scent glands is out of the
> question.

I should hope so!  Scent glands have nothing to do with the odor
of urine.  Besides, it's easy to clean the two "pockets" on either
side of the genitals if gunk has built up there enough to smell.  I
use baby wipes and very gently clean them, then apply a small dab
of hand lotion.

> Any other solutions?

Find a >>good<< home for these precious little ones and don't get
another pet until you've considered what the total cost is likely to
be to maintain its health and create compatibility between its
nature and needs and yours.

Nancy LaRoche (HRS)
att!drutx!njl
From: mjc+@cs.cmu.edu (Monica Cellio)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: bunny: more litter training problems
Date: 22 Aug 92 05:11:33 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

I'm having problems litter-training Stuart and am hoping that someone
here can help.  (He's not long for my house if we can't solve this, but
I *really* don't want to give him up.)

He seemed to more or less get the idea when the box was in his cage and
he was locked in it, so I started leaving the door open.  He still mostly
got it, except for a few pellets on the floor that I assume are basically
territory marking.  He had an occasional tendency to pee in another corner,
behind a door, but mostly he used the box.

Then I went on vacation.  During that time he apparently decided to do
*all* his eliminations in that corner.  My house sitter got the bright idea
of putting the box there (you can sort of get in and out of the room with
it there), and that appeared to mostly work.  I came home, cleaned up the
rest of the mess, and left the box there.  That was Monday.

In the last few days he's shown an annoying tendency to use the area 
*around* the litter box, rather than the box itself.  I've tried vinegar.
I've tried chili powder.  I've tried heavy scolding.  Nothing is working.
We have reverted to him being locked in his cage with the litter box,
a situation I don't like.  I left him in the cage last night and today,
and when I let him out tonight he went right back to making extensive 
messes on the floor.  He's back in the cage again.

I sift most of the pellets out of the litter daily and change it about 
weekly.  I praise him and give him treats when I see him do the right 
thing and scold him when he does the wrong thing.  He has gotten the 
idea in the past, so it looks like I'm dealing with a beligerent bunny
who's finally gotten comfortable enough in my house to defy me.  Or
something like that.

By the way, I tried putting his food bowl in that corner tonight (someone
suggested this to me privately).  He moved it partially out of the way and
worked around it.

Can anyone here offer any suggestions?  Please?

Monica
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From: sauron@femto.engr.mun.ca (Patrick Ryan)
Subject: Re: Need bunny treats, white chocolatish buttons, called "PIP"
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:21:39 GMT

stanton@haas.berkeley.edu (Richard Stanton) writes:

>In England a few months ago I found some bunny treats in a pet shop. I 
>bought a bag of little white buttons that smelt just like white chocolate (I 
>didn't actually taste them) for 33p (about 60c). The name of these was

I did.  They taste rather milky, and nopt like chocolate.

>"Pip", I think, and Snuffles (the bunny) adored them. Now they're finished, 
>and I want some more. I've tried real white chocolate drops, but he's not so 
>keen (no problem - I'll eat them). I've also seen a box of white yogurt 
>drops for about $200, which seems a little expensive.

>Does anyone know anywhere in the US (preferably Marin, CA) where I can get 
>these treats? They're in a plastic bag with orange writing on. 

I don't know about the U.S., but we can get them at several places here
in Canada.  If you're really desperate and get no answer, let me know,
and I'll get you an address.

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From: templon@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl (Jeffrey Templon)
Newsgroups: rec.pets,alt.best.of.internet
Subject: Re: Jonny Cat Litter / Ferrets
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:34:42 GMT
Organization: NIKHEFK


Here's some goodies I had collected at one point:

From a kid's Halloween costume (superman) - stitched into the
cape was a tag saying "Warning: Use of This Device Does Not
Enable Wearer To Fly".

From a Pop-Tart (TM) box: "Warning: Pastry Filling May Be Hot
When Heated"

From a newspaper article: "A congressionally-funded study has
determined that many smokers are ignoring the warning labels
on cigarette packages"

From a hair blow-dryer instruction sheet: "Warning: Do Not
Use While Sleeping"

They never cease to amaze me.

					JT
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From: cboyd@irus.rri.uwo.ca (Cameron Boyd)
Subject: Re: Jonny Cat Litter / Ferrets
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 04:36:48 GMT

In article <kcgywld@rpi.edu> palmj@vccsouth25.its.rpi.edu (Jyri L. Palm) writes:
>
>The best has to be: "JONNY CAT is the best value for your money.  A 20 lb.
>bag of JONNY CAT contains 25% more litter than 16 lb. bags, and 43% more
>than 14 lb. bags!"
>
>JP

Isn't the buying public stupid?  Or is it just the advertisers?  I can't
tell anymore.  Maybe it's a little, or a lot, of both.

oh...by the way...thanks for the tip on Dr. Pepper.  I've been a little
concerned about it myself, and haven't bought any for years for just that
reason.  (-:

Cam

Obligatory pet story:  Even though the cage door is left open, my male
dwarf bun will sit in his cage and rattle the wires.  It's his way of
saying "Hey!  Come here and pet me!"  We're trying to break him of this
by only petting him when he's out of the cage (he much prefers to be sitting
in his cage...very awkward for us), and by gently removing him from his
cage when he rattles it.  He's kind of slow on the uptake... I'll keep you
all posted.

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From: dcg5662@hertz.njit.edu (Dave Grabowski (KxiK))
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: How to Care for a baby mouse
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:53:02 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Aug09.045936.20845@deeptht.armory.com> rstevew@deeptht.armory.com (Richard Steven Walz) writes:
>In article <1992Aug7.173543.16586@unislc.uucp> chris@unislc.uucp (Chris DelPrete) writes:
>>Hi there rec.petters!  Is anyone out there into mice?  Or rats?  I found a
>>couple of baby mice about a week ago.  Their eyes were still closed and they

etc..

>>1.  Is similac a good food for baby mice?  

Sure. Milk (warm!) works fine too.

>>2.  How do I wean the baby onto adult food?

You could try getting a small amount of that factory-processed crunchy
stuff. Grind it up into very small pieces and leave a dish in the cage
once they have teeth big enough to eat them. Keep feeding them liquids
until you are sure they can eat on their own.

>>3.  What should I feed her/him?

Once they're old enough, you can feed them just about anything. My mice
get a good variety of things -- mostly table scraps -- and they're very
healthy and lively.

>>5.  How old are they when their eyes open?  

In the neighborhood of 3-4 weeks.

>>6.  And finally, does anyone know about mouse illnesses?

Well, my allergist once diagnosed a mouse of mine as having pneumonia.
The critter would just wheeze and wheeze and wheeze. He also had a real
nasty disposition..

About 5-6 years ago, I had my first two pet mice (appropriately named
RON and NANCY, but I suppose that is for talk.politics, no?). Nancy died
about 3 days after having a litter of eight. Many times a day, I fed the
little things (they look like fingertips, my mom thought), with a tiny
dropper. Luckily, Ron was around to keep 'em warm, and I gotta give him
credit -- he did a good job. They all survived, and it was amazing
watching them grow up.

-Dave

Good Luck!
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From: cam@milton.u.washington.edu (Cameron Ritchie)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: How much is house rabbit handbook?
Summary: Need price and address
Keywords: HRS Handbook
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:35:14 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

Dear fellow bunny owners,

could some kind soul e-mail me the address and the price
of the much-talked about House Rabbit Society Handbook?

Thanks,

Cam
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From: jaques@drbob.corp.sgi.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets,alt.best.of.internet
Subject: Re: Jonny Cat Litter / Ferrets
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:53:56 GMT
Reply-To: jaques@drbob.corp.sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc , Network Engineering


--

from the Indigo Owners Manual  p 6-9

Hardware Dos and Don'ts
...

Do not...

..

o dangle the mouse by its cable or throw mouse at co-workers.


ps: I wonder if it is safe to throw at co-workers if you
disconnect the wire first ;-)

drbob


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