Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 11:59:14 EDT
From: <SXS30@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Oct 1, our National Day
 <BvGqGx.3AF@cs.psu.edu> <92276.102535SXS30@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <BvJxpF.Du@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>

In article <BvJxpF.Du@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>, bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Yang Yuanxin)
says:
>  He is talking about China, China, The people's China, never "beg"ed!
>
 What an ideal "People's China". China is still far away belong to her
 people. No matter in whatelse-lism sense. Never mention the so called
 national day.

>> Maybe you can say there is no more "dog and chinese" sign in Shanghai.
>> But the fact is CCP never respect it's own people as independent nation.
>>
>  You never miss any chance to attack "CCP", or "CG", or "China",
>  So cheap!

   Look who is cheap here? Don't use such kind words to help you argue.
   I know much of them more than you do, buddy!
>>>
>>>
>>>However, neither US nor USSR were willing to see China becomes a strong
>>>country. They sent their armies to the countries around China. They tried
>>>to isolate China in the world. They tried to control China via thousands of
>> That's becomes Mao wants to liberate all "poor" people over the world. -)
>>
>  So tell which Chinese was trying to 'liberate all poor people over the
>world" in 1848? if you do think you understand even a tiny bit of histry
>history or politics.

 We are talking about the history of passing 40 yrs. Be sure what others
 talking about before you jump up.
>
>>>ways. When China was trying to improve the relationship with either US or
>>>USSR,
>>>USSR or US would attempt to stem via their KGB or CIA.
>>
>>  Sometime it was only certain people in China to decided whold nations
>>  fate, Neither Chiness, nor KGB and CIA can do anything.
>>>
>>>
>>>That was history. That was the environment in which China was standing up.
>>
>> Look at Japan. I don't think Japan had a better envoirment than China
>> after the ending of WWII.
>
>  Only an true , 100% idiot would say this kind of joke.

   You think you are smart than others? you mongrel!!!

>>
>>>China then had atomic bomb, hydrogen bomb, satellites etc all by
>> Nothing to be proud of. satellites raised by 20 millions of lifes.
>
> A new number to remember , ..."20 millions killed in Tibet"...."200
>millions killed by CCP"..."400 millions killed by PLA"....
>Simply keep in mind that never say "1100 millions ...killed", that
>means you should be dead also.

  I am not sure you are trying to discuss anything here. The fact is I
  never say 20 millions was killed. But it is a well know truth that
  20M people died for different reason during "Big jump" and culture
  revolution. Even CCP won't try to deny it!! If you have the access
  to some intern documentation issued by CCP, you won't make the fun
  on yourself.

>
>> I would rather like the goverment feeding people well if they had
> So you should like Chinese communist government!
> > money.
>
>Will you call me father if I show you some cash?

 Watch out your ass. You are pissing at the public.
 If your father didn't teach you how to behavoir yourself,
 then I am sure your mother had trouble to identify who is
 your genetic father. I even doubt if you ever had an adopt
 father.

>>
>>>herself--developing technologies nearly without external help, accumulating
>>>money primarily in the internal markets and meanwhile, producing food
>>>so that the huge population had something to eat.
>>
>> China has market only after the open door policy. I mean real market,
>> not the capitalism tail. -)
>
> So what was the use of RMB before the open door policy?

 We are talking about market as a system. RMB is only s symbol of money.
 Not a system of market. China had different kinds of money long before
 RMB was issued. Can you say China  had a market system in Qin dynasty?
>>
>>>Mao Ze-Dong had many mistakes, but he and his comrades left us a strong
>>>country, an independent country.
>>   A country always compare to India. -)
>
> Because it make great sense!
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Every Chinese benefits from his/her homeland by being respected because
>China
>>>has stood up.
>>  This is a copy from stand CCP's text book.
>  So what? Every body can copy truth from any book.

 Be logical, not "Any" book taught you truth. And Not "Every body" can
 got the truth. The simple reason is "Some Body" has only "Body" but
 brain.

>>
>>>Just a remind, today is our National Day. Nothing can be more valuable
>>>than independence. US could be a friend, but China is our country.
>>Again, as long as a nation exist, a National Day exist.
> Maybe you have a "National Day", but you don't have your Nation..

No of your business. BTW, don't use the trumpery sentence to make
nonsense.

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