From: ajs9462@zeus.tamu.edu (SIMON, ANTHONY JOE)
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Subject: Re: Oswald/Lovelady controversy
Date: 14 Dec 1992 11:38 CST
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In article <1992Dec14.131112.1999@engage.pko.dec.com>, busta@vicki.enet.dec.com writes...
> 
>In article <11DEC199213294014@zeus.tamu.edu>, ajs9462@zeus.tamu.edu (SIMON, ANTHONY JOE) writes...
>>In article <schuck.724093503@sfu.ca>, Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca writes...
>> 
>>>With all the photographs and film shot that day, isn't there a picture
>>>of Lovelady around to compare?
>> 
>>Josiah Thompson covers the subject of Oswald and Lovelady pretty thoroughly
>>towards the end of "Six Seconds in Dallas" and concludes that it is Lovelady.
>>There are "mug shots" of Oswald and Lovelady as well as a blowup of the Altgens
>>photo. In my opinion, these pictures coupled with witnesses who were on the
>>steps with Lovelady show that the person in the picture is Lovelady.
> 
> 
> 
>  Then how do you explain the fact that Lovelady stated that he was wearing
> a short-sleeved red and white vertical striped shirt, even wore the shirt
> for FBI photos, and the Altgens photo clearly shows that whoever that
> person is was NOT wearing anything of the sort.......
>

     First, my only source is Josiah Thompson's "Six Seconds in Dallas", and
so I do not have the exact testimony where Lovelady claimed to be in the shirt
you describe.

     On page 227 of SSiD, Thompson quotes a CBS Interview with Lovelady and I
reprint it here.

          "Recently, when the discrepancy between shirts was pointed out
	   to Lovelady by CBS News, he replied, 'Well, when the FBI took
	   me in the shirt, I told them it wasn't the same shirt.' The
	   shirt Lovelady now claims to have worn on November 22 is long-
	   sleeved and patterned in large squares."

It appears to me that Lovelady had changed his shirt before being taken in to
be questioned. My question to you: Is the testimony in the WCR an FBI report
or is it Lovelady's sworn testimony? It makes a difference.

     Other reasons I have for believing it was Lovelady on the steps and
not Oswald.

     1) Oswald didn't claim to be there at the time of the assassination, but
claimed to be inside the building. If I were accused of murder and I was on
the steps with a bunch of witnesses, I'd certainly point that out and not
claim to be elsewhere. Of course, you could claim that his testimony was
written by a bunch of conspirators, but (I believe) one of the people who
wrote the Oswald's testimony is a believer in a conspiracy. I can't remember
his name (I think it's Hosty), but he is the FBI agent who was there during
the initial questioning of Oswald. He was pulled from the investigation and
he thinks that he was pulled as part of a cover-up. So, take it for what it
is worth.

     2) Thompson claims that there are three witnesses who claim that Lovelady
was with them on the steps of the Depository. William Shelley (6H328), Sarah
Stanton (22H647), and Wesley Frazier (22H675). I know of no one who claims that
Oswald was there.

     3) The pictures on page 226 of SSiD indicate to me that it is more likely
to be Lovelady than Oswald. The Altgens 'blowup' is very blurry and the only
good indication that it is Lovelady rather than Oswald is the hairline is more
receeding than Oswald's and looks right for Lovelady.

     4) The fact the shirt color Oswald is closer to Oswald's shirt color in
a mug shot taken later Nov. 22 does not make that Oswald either. Oswald was
supposedly to have returned to his boarding house where he changed shirts.

Tony Simon