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From: anson@netcom.com (Anson Kennedy)
Subject: Re: "Relics" (Scotty episode) *Spoilers*
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 20:56:51 GMT
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jpw@minerva.ece.drexel.edu (Joseph Wetstein) writes:

>In article <1992Aug25.220813.20349@eng.umd.edu> wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez) writes:
>>Couple of Spoilers concerning "Relics" that I caught on CNN
>>
>>
>>
>>They've reconstructed the bridge of the Enterprise from TOS.  It looks exactly
>>the same, knobs and buttons and all.  CNN showed Scotty walking around it
>>holding a bottle of bourbon (or whatever) and a glass.  My guess is that 
>>Scotty reconstructed it on the holodeck to say a few goodbyes to his
>>old shipmates.  The report shows him talking to thin air on the bridge.
>>Looks like they're going for the ultra-nostalgic feel with "Relics," something
>>they mostly avoided with "Unification."  
>>
>>Doohan also said that the story does involve him and Geordi working together 
>>to save the new Enterprise.  Surprise, eh?  Looks interesting, to be sure.
>> 

>Gosh.. does that mean that Geordi will LIVE.....????

Actually, Doohan didn't name Geordi.  He just said Scotty and "the chief
engineer" had to save the ship.

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From: Reima.Puurunen@p59.f91.n220.z2.FIDONET.ORG (Reima Puurunen)
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Subject: DS9 Cast
Date: 31 Aug 1992 23:24:43 -0500
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This is most likely to be a FAQ, but could someone please email me all the 
information on DS9.  

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Subject: Season 6 spoilers from creation con in Anaheim
From: lawson@ssdvax.mdcbbs.com
Date: 29 Aug 92 20:43:14 GMT
Organization: McDonnell Douglas - Space Station Division, Huntington Beach CA
Nntp-Posting-User: lawson

I just came back from the Creation Con in Anaheim and picked up some season 6
tidbits. Spoilers follow !!

Last Chance !!

They are filming a Q episode now.
Patrick Stewart was playing a borg 2 days ago.
Barcley will be back in the 2nd episode of the new season.
They showed slides of Scotty on the bridge of a ST:TOS starship (looked like
the Entrprise of Kirk's vintage). He was wearing a next generation
communicator, holding a brandy bottle in another slide, on the ST:TOS bridge
with Picard on another slide. The ST:TOS bridge was not on the holodeck and
the story didn't involve time travel (per Lolita Fatjo-script coordinator).
The six episodes filmed so far are:
Times Arrow II
Relem Affair (sp?)
the Q episode (no name given)
Relics (scotty episode)
Skissims (sp?) 
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From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: No scripts???
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:03:51 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Aug26.040400.14129@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:

>  * TNG's script supply was almost completely depleted at the end
>    of season 4, forcing them to scramble to get this season going.
>    Gee... I couldn't tell (;-)

Isn't this the show that gets 10,000 spec submissions a year?  Come on,
they can't ALL be bad...
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From: walker@Ingres.COM (Lynn Walker)
Subject: Re: Problem with Scotty, period...
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Date: 2 Sep 92 20:57:43 GMT

In article <1992Sep01.180934.14480@bnr.ca>, faurote@crchh484.BNR.CA ( writes...
>I have actually had the occasion to meet Mr. Doohan here in Dallas and
>there's something interesting about him that I haven't seen mentioned
>before:  He's missing a finger on his right hand (if memory serves me
>correctly).  I didn't know the proper etiquette for asking him about it
>(Hey nice weather...What the hell???) so I left the matter closed.  Has
>anyone noticed if he wears a prosthesis in TOS or in the movies, or do
>they just avoid close-ups of his hands altogether?
> 
>Just nit-pickin' in Texas

--I just received an FAQ list, and it mentions James' Doohan's missing finger.
Apparently (during TOS anyway) he had a "hand double" whenever he was shown
operating the transporter, or other controls. I don't know what they did for the
movies, if anything.

	lynn walker
	walker@ingres.com
From: 00bwanderson@bsu-ucs.uucp
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Subject: Re: Dolphins!
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:11:33 GMT

In article <RANNOU.92Aug22115219@zuse.info.polymtl.ca>, Rannou@info.polymtl.ca (Patrick Rannou) writes:
> In article <57430@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip Russell) writes:
> 
> 
> 
>    Buy a really cool condo-aquarium and be the envy of all his friends.
> 
> To swim where no one has swimmed before? 

Dammit, Jim, I'm a doctor, not a grammarian!

It's ``swum'' not ``swimmed.''  Sheesh-don't they teach English anymore?
8^)

> 
> 
> ;-)
> 
> Doum.
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From: kuchar@buast7.bu.edu (Tom Kuchar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Jim Doohan on CNN Showbiz Today *SPOILERS*
Date: 28 Aug 92 12:01:28 GMT
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA


In article <1992Aug27.233332.10269@nntp.uoregon.edu> wesiegel@cie.uoregon.edu (William Siegel) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.125133.9014@bsu-ucs.uucp> 00ajpayne@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:

>>>  character who is a relatively regular guest, like Roxanna Troi.
>>                                                     ^^^^^^^
>>Roxanna Troi, who the hell is that......
>>	A betazoid punk rock singer it sounds like.....
>>
>I now humble myself before the unforgiving and relentless netters who feel
>I have violated the sacred trust of making a mistake about this, my least 
>favorite, character's name.  

Don't fret.  Some of these people should chill. I find these things
amusing. Anyway people often misspell the name of Dianna Troy's mother :-).

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From: jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Review of "Imzadi" by Peter David - numerous spoilers!
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:10:13 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.startrek.current,. University of Betazed
Organization: Alchemy International

In article <1992Aug27.225158.448@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
>SPOILERS!

>
>CONTINUITY
>It must be maddening to try and tie together little ravels from who-
>knows-how-many seperate episodes scattered over five years of a series.
>Considering the task at hand, I think Peter's done very well, but there
>still are a couple of mistakes:
>For instance, according to the Technical Manual, Enterprise-D is
>supposed to have a lifespan of 100 years.  It's replacement twice over
>seems too fast for me.  (Unless Peter thinks both were destroyed of
>course, he doesn't say, and of course, the Tech Manual isn't *completely*
>canon)
>Another little forgotten bit, the flower Troi and Riker try and find
>in "Menage a Troi."  No mention of its original planting by them.
>Another little thing, if Data could me rendered inoperative by the cutting
>of one link between his brain and body in "The Game," then how could
>Data's head operate his body by remote control from a distance?
>The Data one is the one that bothers me most, but it wasn't essential
>to the plot other than for mostly a joke, so I can overlook it.
>grade: B


	Remember in Disaster, Data's head worked despite his body being
zapped by something or other?  The same principle.  I'm surprised you
didn't mention the most obvious error in the book.  Look at the stardate
on the Captain's Log fro the chapter that contains a flashback of
Encounter at Farpoint.  That is the most glaring error and I can't 
believe the folks at Paramount didn't catch it...or for that matter,
I can't believe PAD made such a stupid mistake.

>Just because I've been pointing these out doesn't mean I think they matter
>all that much.
>
>Overall grade: 
>B

	Me, too.  But I wouldn't give A because of corny dialogue between
Troi and Riker.  Too much semblance to an episode of Cheers with Sam
and Rebecca.

>
>Or in other words,  a good read.
>I place this about in the middle of the David pack, and even being on the
>botom of that sets it high above the other authors.
>
>What do you lot think?

	Agreed on that last paragraph.

>
>
>


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From: hcheng@Auspex.COM (Howard Cheng)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: sample scripts
Keywords: scripts, Star Trek
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:36:39 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

Sorry to post this to the net, y'all, but I couldn't get my e-mail through.
Plus, some of you may find this interesting.

In article <tony.714590496@helios.llnl.gov> tony@iti.org (Anthony Skjellum) writes:
>I would like to learn how to write a script (formatting, direction, etc),
>and would be interested to read accepted, good, indifferent scripts,
>to see how it is done.
>

You should go to your bookstore and look for the book, "How To Write a
Screenplay," by Richard Walter (I think that's the title).  He is a professor
in the film school at UCLA and teaches a screenwriting class.  I have heard
that this is one of the best books you can read about writing screenplays.


h.
From: dowling@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Stephen Dowling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Season Premiere
Date: 30 Aug 92 07:25:04 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

zrde05@trc.amoco.com (Robert D. Ess) writes:
>In article 78428@ut-emx.uucp, tgunter@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Thomas Gunter) writes:
>>How about giveing Wesley a new show catering to young teens?
>>We can call it Deep Space 90210.
>>
>>Or Bill Shatner in a show about extra-terrestrial cops?
>>Obviously called Deep Space 911.
>>
>>Sorry--it was a boring summer...
>Or Star Trek cast members singing Beatle songs in Deep Space Number Nine

Of course, the title theme could be released as Deep Space 6-5000.
 
stephen dowling          dowling@pnet51.orb.mn.org         minneapolis minnesota
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Subject: Re: "Relics" (Scotty episode) *Spoilers*
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 13:20:22 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

kuchar@buast7.bu.edu (Tom Kuchar) writes:

> depressed, almost on the verge of tears.  Doohan hasn't been featured
> this prominently since, perhaps, `Who Mourns for Adonis' or that fine
> Irish episode the bonny `Lights O'Zetar'.

Could you tell me what was Irish about "The Lights of Zetar"?  Maybe I just
didn't get it.  <zooom over my head> but I'd always thought Scotty was..well
er...Scottish.  <Getting my Irish up>  We are NOT the same thing.

-Cathy


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From: Edward_Lee_Whiteside@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Air Date For RELICS
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 23:30:33 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

RELICS is the fourth episode filmed, which would put its airdate as the week
of October 12 (sat feed on the 10th).  Of course, it may not air fourth, 
maybe even being held back for the November sweeps.
From: demirtjis@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Ann Demirtjis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Borg as Humans (Humanoids)
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:52:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: kuhub.1992Sep3.125230.42754
Organization: University of Kansas, USA.

In article <jverho80.715536746@ursa>, jverho80@ursa.calvin.edu (Jeff Verhoef) writes:
> jeffery@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (JEFFERY ERIC ROBERT) writes:
> 
>>Why is it that ALL Borgs look human.  I understand that to be a Borg it would
>>make sense that a species would need to be humanoid, but why aren't any of the
>>Borg Klingons, Romulan, Ferengi, or an other for that matter?  It was also 
>>mentioned earlier about the Federation continually running into the Borg.
>>What about the Romulans or Klingons fighting the Borg?  Hmmm, strange!  
>>-- 
>>"What is happiness, after all, but the fleeting, transitory butterfly of an
>>emotion that is impossible to catch and hold for long before it flies away"
>>             Margaret Weis "Star of the Guardians" Volume 3
>>    Eric Jeffery (jeffery@ucsu.colorado.edu) StarBase Express (303)450-2454
> 
> 
> In "I Borg" Hugh says that the Borg "assimilate civilizations, not
> individuals."  By that statement we might be able to assume that 1) the 
> Klingons and the Romulans also have had some success in fighting off the 
> Borg or 2)the Borg just don't know those races exist.  The second statement
> might be wrong; the Borg could know about other races from Picard's experience,
> but there's really no way of telling.
> 
> If there were Klingon, Romulan or Ferengi in the Borg collective, we might not
> be able to tell since it seems to me that the Borg fundamentally look the same.
> Why did they take a humanoid shape?  Convenience, maybe?  Or possibly the Borg
> was a humanoid culture before they "evolved" into a collective.

	If I remember well, in the book "Vendetta", the Borg assimilates
a Ferengi in order to get a new "spokeperson" (since they weren't too 
successful with Picard). So it seems that they know about non-humanoid races
and can assimilate them in the collective.

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From: gt6190a@prism.gatech.EDU (Stephen Burr)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: "Relics" (Scotty episode) *Spoilers*
Summary: Already at least 4 posts on the subject.
Date: 26 Aug 92 00:12:36 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech

In article <1992Aug25.231509.21256@eng.umd.edu>, wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez) writes:
> In article <1992Aug25.220813.20349@eng.umd.edu>wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez) writes:
> >Couple of Spoilers concerning "Relics" that I caught on CNN
> >
> Whoops.  Looks like a couple of people already posted this info.  Sorry for
> the repetition, folks.  We've already got enough of *that* on r.a.s.c at
> the moment, anyway. (-: No need for me to add to it.  Snooze on.
>  
Heh, heh, heh. Yeah, I was going to post a summary, too, thinking I would be
the first. But I decided to read the group first. Good thing too.

But, I do have a question. (Spoilers and a few blank lines follow.)






















O.K. They said that "Scotty" was somehow going to be transported 75 years
into the future, if I remember correctly. How???

Don't tell me that the "transporter trace" story is going to be true after
all. Ugh.

Still, it may be an interesting episode. I plan to see it.

Later.
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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Season Premiere: Deanna bags Bev!
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 10:02:38 GMT

In article <-cjyzrj@rpi.edu> johnsh@aix.rpi.edu (Hugh Johnson) writes:
>Okay, maybe not.  But there was that "excercise" scene between Deanna and
>Beverly (in "The Host," I think).  They sure seemed to enjoy their little
>spandex stretching session.  Hmm.

I don't know about them, but I sure did!

(Oh no. Not MORE 'WHO'S HOTTER: TROI, CRUSHER, OR GUINIAN' discussion!)


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From: eric@wdl35.wdl.loral.com (Eric Kuhnen)
Subject: Re: Big Screen = Video for ST:TUC ???
Organization: Loral Western Development Labs
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:01:19 GMT

00jdbecktel@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
>I just wanted to say I really had a good laugh at the scenes the video
>version of The Undiscovered Country decided to leave in.
>I counted 3.
>When Spock, Valeris, and Scotty were having a private meeting in one of the
>tunnels.
>	"Aye. The bitch probably killed her father."
>When the guy from "Benson" was laying out plans to the President (Neil's father
>from Dead Poets) to get Kirk and McCoy out of captivity.
>And in the end when the "Klingon" Scotty shot turned out to BE the guy from
>Benson.	
>	"Wait a minute. This isn't Klingon blood *RIPS OFF KLINGON MASK*"

>What a hoot.

I call it the Scooby Doo ending!

  *RIPS OFF KLINGON MASK*

  "It's Mr. Weathersby, the museum curator!!"

  "I would've gotten away with it, too, if it hadn't been for you meddling
  Enterprise people!"

"Q"
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From: p5ku@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (BAMFORD)
Subject: Re: Anyone collecting Season premere fun ?
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 05:41:45 GMT

In article <92239.190444IO20081@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> robert eric beckwith <IO20081@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
(Deleted Message) 
>robert...
>.......................borg rule..........................

You forgot to include this Borg rule!  I suppose that this is irrelevant
and futile.

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From: cjp53999@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Cory James Padfield)
Subject: Re: ST: TNG actors on other series
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:31:12 GMT

       i would just like to add my $0.02. I did see Gates McFadden
       on the VCR version of "Hunt". Like you said, maybe its on
       some, not on others.

Regards,
Cory Padfield

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From: fawcett@ccu.umanitoba.ca (PJ Fawcett)
Subject: Re: ST:TNG actors on other series
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:37:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.003311.2078@wkuvx1.bitnet> brownga@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>In article <4ec6Ok200UjU81UUVk@andrew.cmu.edu>, jp45+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jim Thomas Park , Jr.) writes:
>> In article <1684A128D9.YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>,
>> YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:
>>> 
>>>     Here is one I've forgotten.  Gates McFadden has a very small role
>>> in Muppets Take Manhatten as a secretary for a Broadway agent near the
>>> beginning of the movie.
>> 
>> Here's another on for Gates. She was in The Hunt for Red October. She
>> was Alec Baldwin's character's wife I believe.
>> 
         Recently caught "The Doctor and the Devils" on the late
         show.  Made in mid- or late-80s, it stars Timothy Dalton
         as a virtuous doctor buying corpses from the local grave
         robbers and the upright medical faculty member who blows
         the whistle on him is played by Patrick Stewart.  With a
         realistic hairpiece replete with mutton chops and the
         right accent, Stewart was far above the rest of the cast
         even though his role was a minor one.
From: brownga@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Enterprise Stinks!
Date: 31 Aug 92 05:23:07 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Aug29.170031.1@vax1.umkc.edu>, rtiger@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
> 
> All-
> 
> I must say once and for all that I think that the Starship Enterprise is the
> most ridiculous looking starship ever dreamed up by people in Hollywood/dead
> authors/etc.
> 
> I mean, let's be realistic.  First off, it has a frisbee shaped top. 
> Considering there isn't much friction in space, why not go with a big cylinder,
> and get more square feet for your money?  Then, we have to toothpick shaped
> things which I assume house the "engines" (boy, when was the last time the
> Enterprise stopped for gas) and the "torpedoes" (which make that cool blastoff
> sound even in the midst of a vacuum).
> 
> Let's be real.  They should all be in something much more practical and
> economical.  This current design sucks.
> 
> Roy Tiger.
> 
> 
-- 
Well Roy, First thing there is friction in space, from particals and
solar winds. Second the ship design also aids in the formation in a
warp field that is required for warp speed.

Hows that for real;)
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