From: megazone@granite.WPI.EDU (MegaZone23)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Anime Expo GoH #4
Date: 22 Dec 92 00:12:33 GMT
Organization: WPI USAF -- United Society of Animation Fans
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In article <1992Dec21.130755.21543@koko.csustan.edu> ggreene@koko.csustan.edu (George Greene) writes:
>Hey folks rember MT here also said he had other guess "Confirmed" for the con
>this year but my they sure canceled out at the vary last moment.

Yeah, so what? Guests cancelled for AC'91 too. You can't blame Mike Tatsugawa
for that. And AA'93 just annouced cancellations too. Gee, imagine that, AA
suffers from cancellations too.

>they think that this has to be the dumus thing they seen in years
>2 cons a week apart for the same stuff How will it work ? 

You know what, most people seem to think it is stupid. And AX'93 was announced
first. AA'93 conveniently scheduled their con one week before AX'93.

>Here's why >1 the orginal staff walk off siteing they can't work
>with Mike here (Hey Mike I like you but it's the turth)

Many of the staff stayed. Being the way I am, ie I don't give a whit about the 
rules, I let myself 'backstage' at AX'92 and saw the ways the then AC'93
promoters were begging staff away from AX'93. Personally I feel that running
AA'93 as it has been is unethical and malicious. And this is apart from the 
time I spent with Mike. I keep my eyes and ears open, and most of the time I
kep my mouth shut. Until something needs to be said.

The supporters of AA'93 have continuously slandered Mike and the AX staff.
They leap to conclusions and fling mud, while Mike remains above that. He has 
gone up a great deal in my eyes for not sustaining a flame war.

>Hey folks i think we the one's who get's the bill here. look at the parking
>they have said the "if" you don't want to park at the hotel you cam
>go about 5 to 8 blocks away. Hey people the "safe zone" that the police have

And they have BART, many people don't need to bring cars. And all the people
flying in could care less about parking.

>you know this I been there 2 times and I seen more crime than I care for

So? Arisia is in downtown Boston. I can walk for a few minutes in Worcester
and be in gang turf. If you aren't familiar with cities venturing about is not
a good idea anyway. (And I still do it... In decently sized groups.)

> I mean if you think that a few fans writing letters asking Rumiko Takahashi
>to come is going to work this is nuts.

As Mike said she is loking to come to a con, and he was even civil enough to
mention AA'93 and AX'93 and not slam AA. He left the AX'93 support to the end
of the post. Mike cares about the fans and he would like to see more guests
come to the US, of course he favors AX, but if a guest shows for either con the
fans benefit.

>Look if you want a letter war you not going to get it that way and if
>AA'93 wanted to say have fans wirte any of the Japanese GoH's all they have

Again, Mike specifically suggested stating which con, either one. I would be 
very surprised if AA would have done the same.

>I think that I need to see where all of this cash is come from so
>right here and now I'm asking to see your books.!

Mikimoto has agreed in the past to return to the US. He loves fandom. So, is
AA non-profit? I thought it was. So I could request to see their books too.
Maybe I will, but I don't see the reason. I am more concerned with the 
macroscopic aspects of the con, what the fans get, the general 'attitude' or
the con organization, how people are treated, ethical actions, etc...

BTW, it is the Society for the Promotion of Japanese Animation, SPJA.

>i'll give till Saturday to post or give me a leagle and valed reasen why

The law DOES NOT require them to post it to the nets. So that is an invalid
request. You can only ask to see them for yourself, others can ask if they
want to see them. And giving an unreasonable deadline will not hold. If they
have to copy them and mail them, then you wait.

>Hey gang the score is 19 to 4 on Goh's in AA'92 favor who do you
>think's got there act together now.

Well, I think it is AX. BTW, you need to find out the difference between a
guest and a Guest of Honor. Go recount and let me know what you come up with.

>Oh I work at both cons in the dealers room see if you can rember where?

Since I'm lousy with names I have no idea where you worked.

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