From: "micky wong" <micky.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: everyone should change hi
Reply-To: "micky wong" <micky.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
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Date: 3 Jan 93 22:10:33 EST

In Article: <C0AMwx.G8D@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
   Subject: Everyone should change his major to Qi Gong major
      From: xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li) writes:


>In article <1993Jan3.191658.18531@schaefer.math.wisc.edu>
>zhao@schaefer.UUCP (Kang Zhao) writes:
>
>>I cannot tell you the truth but I can tell you a story. One of my
>>officemate found a job in the past summer after he practiced Qi Gong
>>for about 6 months, although he failed finding job in 90 and 91. When
>>he began practicing Qi Gong, I asked him why he spent his time on QI
>>Gong not on his research. He answered that Qi Gong can let you achieve
>>anything you want. At that time, the most he needed was a job. My
>>reaction was a laugh. But a few months later, he got what he wanted.
>>Amazing? I have to claim that not everyone can succeed practicing Qi
>>Gone. So I never believe it and never try to.

Interesting story. It could also be the result of: what he truly
believes gave him the self-confidence needed in job seeking.
However, I will not try to disapprove your officemate, for a simple
reason that I don't know enough about Qi Gong.

>It is fine to listen to your amusing comedy. You can shoot it into
>movie if you want and put a title as science fiction.

Actually there is a movie made in HongKong recently, based on the
stories of Zhang1 Bao3 Sheng4 (?), someone says that he is a magician,
someone think that he is a brute, and someone believes that he can
"walk through walls", anyway, he is a study subject of PRC's department
of defence, and enjoys the privilege of an PLA's colonel. (?)

>But don't try to publish in any serious scientific journal. Otherwise you
>will be in big trouble for your career. The guy in Utah who claimed
>success of cold fusion has already had his career finished.

Well.. I beg to disagree with you on this, many new discoveries or
inventions would usually receive public ridicule or skepticism,
honest mistakes do happen.
future new endeavors of science should not be discouraged by the
failure of two over-zealous scientists of the cold fusion *fame*.

Of course, with our current understanding of Qi Gong, it can not be
deemed as true science to fit the model of today's science.

The study of mind power ,para physics or parapsychology are still at the
early stage of "pseudo-science" or infancy. But we can not say, that
these forces or phenomenons do not exist.

>No body blames you if you tell such stories. But if it is the area of
>your research, if it is your job, you cannot randomly cast it. C. N.
>Yang is a physicist and a Nobel Prize winner. People honored him for his
>illustration of science, his seriousness. Science cannot be misled. I
>think people have reason to question a scientist if the scientist is
>dishonest or irresponsible.

Agree with your view on prudence regarding one's academical credibility.

What makes me skeptical about Yan Xing is: at his level, why he needed
so many other big names to support his own ability?
When a person is over-dressed, we say that person is out of place.
When a piece of merchandise is over decorated, I question the quality of
the substance beneath the wrapping...
There are people believe that what Yan Xing is doing, is no more than
practicing "mass hypnotism".
I do agree that Yan Xing should not paddling his stuff as *genuine
science* .

In the west, there is a branch of christian church, which practice the
"speaking tongues", that is, the members of the congregation, after
intense praying,  will suddenly have the ability to speak some foreign
language, what I'm not sure is: weather they speak "foreign tongue" with
legible meaning or just gibberish...   :-)

My own view about Qi Gong is, there are something wonderfully mysterious
about the capacity of human brain, with the existing human knowledge, we
cannot fully comprehend the effect and scope of this phenomenon.

Maybe in the future, we'll have better understanding about Qi Gong, to
the extend that we understand today's acupuncture.
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