From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: FREE 1-YEAR NRA... enough allready!!
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:09:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <cthong.714251096@sfu.ca>, cthong@fraser.sfu.ca (Christopher Thong) writes:

Hey, look, fella:

1) Chill out;

2) Learn how the hell to post, will you?  Posting the SAME 100-line+ plus
   message TWELVE times with ONE short comment in each copy is the act of
   someone whose opinion is not likely to be any more well-researched than
   his news etiquette.

> >>it IS the few irresponsible fucks who treat it like a toy or a weapon
> >>intending to go out of their way to harm others that are to blame.
> 
> >Fine.  Then why are you so damn concerned with everyone else?

> because it's not only people like YOU who make up society. it's made up
> of people like me , my neighbours , my kids etc . who are forced if their
> mericans to live with the consequences and realities of life according to
> people like YOU who believe that guns are great and hell it's every person 
> for themselves and screw my neighbour if they don't have a firearm .

Yeah, right.  We want to force you to own firearms.

Get a clue.

> it's these irresponsible people i was mentioning before that give you all 
> a bad name and make life difficult for ALL . but if the NRA can't or won't
> do anything about them , then it's up to the authorities .

Force, force, force,  If people don't do what YOU want them to do, find
somebody who can MAKE them do what you want them to do!

Is that how they do things in Singapore?

> and a very valid
> option is to ban private ownership of guns .

An option to what purpose?  To make YOU feel better?  Sorry, the world
doesn't work that way.  So what OTHER purpose will be served by banning
private ownership of guns?  

If you think it will "obviously" reduce crime and killings, here is my 
recommendation to you.  Put both hands in plaster casts, so that you will 
NOT be tempted to post here.  Then READ this newsgroup for three or four 
weeks to LEARN something about the problem.  Then take off the casts when 
you're qualified to post something KNOWLEDGEABLE.

> however you have the view that
> the state should ONLY do things and implement policies if they suit you
> and hang others no ? 

Listen again, and pay attention this time:

1) My private ownership of a gun is NO threat to you.  Or your neighbors.
   Or your kids.

2) If I were a convicted felon, my private ownership of a gun MIGHT be a
   threat to you.  However, my ownership of it would ALREADY be against 
   the law.  I most assuredly did not buy it from a legal gun shop.  I 
   bought it on the black market, which you can't control with any law.

3) If I do anything improper with the gun, that is a crime in itself and
   you should use that fact to make sure I'm locked up.  Otherwise, I
   have a right to own a gun.  Whether you like it or not.

If "rights" were only about things that nobody objected to, we wouldn't 
NEED them, now -- would we?
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