HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bigjoe@netcom.com (gordon perry)
Subject: Re: Speaking Of Being ProAirBorne....
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 12:21:43 GMT

drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:

>noonan@mksol.dseg.ti.com (Michael P Noonan) writes:

>] In article <1hpas1INNohi@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>, starr-daniel@yale.edu (Daniel Starr) writes:
>] |> In article <KAYVAN.92Dec28172903@satyr.Sylvan.COM> kayvan@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Kayvan Sylvan) writes:
>] |> >The question for the pro-circumcision camp: Are *you* really making
>] |> >the decision for your kids, or is the culture you were born into
>] |> >making the decision?
>] |> Well, I'm only in favor of circumcision for my own son, not anyone else's,
>] |> so I don't know to what extent that makes me "pro-circumcision"... but I will
>] |> do it because God has commanded me to, as recorded in the Torah, etc., etc.
>] 
>] So, your pro-choice!  Don't like circumcision?  Don't have one!

>My Ex_Father_In_Law was airborne.

>His son turned out to get through not only jump school,
>but through ranger school....

>I wonder.... did his father corrupt his morals?

And what in hell is immoral about parachuting or being a ranger?
>ciao
>drieux

>ps: ok, ok, so I'll admit it, my cousin volunteered
>to teach at LRRP school.... It could be a gentic thing...


>-- 
>Modern Day Problems:

>This is Not a .sigfile addendum to the Post.
>You are just reading beyond the edge.
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance,soc.penpals,alt.romance.chat
From: jjehl@lonestar.utsa.edu (Jeff D. Jehl)
Subject: Re: Do you have a good pickup line?
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 20:53:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.172242.19688@swbatl.sbc.com> js5190@oktext.UUCP (Judy Sneed) writes:
>>How about the classic, "What's a slut like you doing in a classy joint like
>>this??"
>>
>>}=>
>>
>>Ender
>
>Hey! I thought the classic was "What is a classy dame like you doing
>in a joint like this?" 8-)
>
>Judy
>
*ffffwwwwwwwoooooooooooooooossssshhhhhhh!!* over yer head and under yer toes :]

Newsgroups: soc.singles,talk.bizarre
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: Re: More Answers to Dating Questions
Followup-To: soc.singles,alt.conspiracy
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 06:39:19 GMT

kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey) writes:

] In article <1992Dec28.022139.18171@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:
] >1. IF the person you are planning to date is NOT
] >cleared to the level of your current and potential
] >clearance level, then there exists a CLEAR possibility
] >that you may be engaging in a Breach of National Security,
] >as it is possible that you may utter something which is not
] >for dissemination at their level of clearance.
] 
] This is true enough, but clearance is not enough.  What if the person whom
] you are planning to date doesn't have need to know?
] --scott

A simple Maxim Scott:

"If they don't need to Know,
They Don't need to GO!"

then take appropriate actions pursuant to previous
policy guidelines.


ciao
drieux

ps: Is there an UnClearDatingService?



-- 
Modern Day Problems:

This is Not a .sigfile addendum to the Post.
You are just reading beyond the edge.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rossi@mtu.edu (Rossi)
Subject: Intel gents - not Intelligence
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:18:48 GMT

Sorry definitions need to be suitably muddied here:

   Intelligence - Intel gents - guy people that work for Intel [tm] and
                                wear suits.

   songbird
From: pooh@Apple.COM (Pooh)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Attraction -> Acquiantance or vice versa?
Date: 22 Dec 92 12:41:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Internet Refugee Camp

In the referenced article, mel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Meloney D Cregor) writes:
>The REAL test is can they write their name in the snow?
>The beauty of the test is that it shows not only manhood, but
>literacy and dexterity, as well.

Actually, I think their names look better with MY handwriting ... ;-)

Cheers,
Pooh
	pooh@apple.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: taylor@ccrs.emr.ca (Trevor Taylor)
Subject: Re: Ankle bracelets
Organization: Canada Centre for Remote Sensing, Ottawa
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 07:47:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec24.160915.28042@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> skc@Turing.ORG (Shriram K. Chaubal) writes:
>In article <1992Dec24.022312.8061@netcom.com> stevek@netcom.com (Steve Kile) writes:
>>I'd like to ask the ladies of the net (tm) to answer a question for me.  I
>>frequent a couple of restaurants where the waitresses wear ankle bracelets
>>(is that the correct terminology?)  These girls are mostly high school or
>>college age.  I don't recall this type of jewelery being worn during my high
>>school or college days.  Is this a new fad?  What is the significance of
>>wearing it on the right versus left ankle?  Thanks.
>>
>
>Hmmmmm .... are these velcro bracelets with matching earings???? :-) :-)
>
>Shri
>>
>
>



Hmmm, ankle braclets.....  


	It depends on the type of ankle bracelet ... thin gold chains
are usually warning signs....


	Anybody who disagrees , let me know


	(Ankle braclets with, for example, charms or much ornamentation
are exceedingly attractive, on the other hand)

Trevor 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: cocoa@netcom.com
Subject: Minimal apparel and packing (was Re: Size 8?)
Organization: none at all!
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 02:29:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.001756.12068@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.205253.5718@netcom.com> cocoa@netcom.com writes:

>>Hey Charlie!  Whatcha going around telling secrets for?  Besides, Trygve has
>>already declined an invitation to be out of arms reach with me.  As for my
>>minimal apparel, it's only due to the fact that I'm moving and everything
>>is all packed (now, where *did* I put those whips?).
>
>Moi?  I thought it was you who cancelled plans to be within arms reach.
>
>Trygve   (As long as you're already packed....)

Ah, well, I had to cancel plans due to lack of funds (I won't be going to
Australia either, btw) <sob>.  But I invited you to visit me in the Bay
Area and you said you never visited here.

So, "you started it."

Just me,

little 'e'
-- 
*  *  *    Chocolatier at Arms, and Castle Wetware Liason            *  *  *
*  *  *    e-mail: cocoa@netcom.com   -    voicemail: 415-337-4940   *  *  *

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: SF ISO S*M
Organization: Don't blame me, I voted for Bill 'n' Opus
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:44:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.173958.22498@cbnews.cb.att.com> eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (Piglet) writes:
>In article <1992Dec22.065802.17473@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec21.221422.194@cbnews.cb.att.com> eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (Piglet) writes:
>>>
>>>No, no, no.  _Everyone_ knows you can't have a clue and a life at the
>>>same time.  Where's Aahz when we need him?
>>
>>Excuse me?  I don't *think* I look like Laura.....
>
>Um, so, Aahz, what's the correct quote and/or source?

Sorry, I don't have the original quote (I bet Mark Israel does, though),
but I *can* give you the .sigs of the Goddess who wrote it:

Redhead, drummer, geek.
  aka
Bitchy, vampiric technogoth.
  aka
Go away.

(What can I say?  I worship her enough to memorize her .sigs.... ;-)
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Virtual anniversary: 9 days and counting
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.pagan,alt.romance,alt.sex,alt.polyamory,talk.religion.misc
From: eng10172@nusunix1.nus.sg (POH HONG CHENG)
Subject: Re: Truth
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 04:09:57 GMT

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: Diane
Subject: Re: Giving up good girls, looking for "bad" ones
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 17:38:44 CST

In article <1992Dec29.213509.26642@CERIS.Purdue.EDU>
dheisler@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Dave Heisler) writes:
 
>after fairly dismal luck in meeting good women and
>converting them to SO's, i'm considering chasing
>"bad" ones.                              ^^^^^^^
 
Dave dave dave dave dave! BAD girls don't RUN! If they ran, they'd
be good girls (if I'm going too fast for you, let me know.... :) )
 
Diane
 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rossi@mtu.edu (Rossi)
Subject: Re: Tell Me Something about Balls
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 07:01:32 GMT

In article <1992Dec24.144856.21785@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>
>Talk about going NUTS.  And speaking of which ...

   Too late.  Your parents put the cashews on the barrelhead and the
genes were shuffled.  You may find them and fondle them, but you
can never call them your own.  ;)

   songbird

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: mel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Meloney D Cregor)
Subject: Re: Over 40 and single....Anyone that "OLD"?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 23:09:42 GMT

In article <16094@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <1992Dec28.080324.23379@emr1.emr.ca> taylor@ccrs.emr.ca (Trevor Taylor) writes:
>|
>|Age is irrelevent
>|
>|Who really cares ????
>|
>|People are people
>
>That will be enough of that, Trevor.  We can't have you summarizing threads
>like this with comments that actually make sense.  Next thing you know you'll
>offer a logical summary for the Nice Guy (TM) thread.

I'm afraid I have to differ with you on this one, John, my little power
tool.

Age is QUITE relevant.
I care.
Oh, if that were true. People may all belong to the same species, but
not all people are people. Some are amazingly inhuman.
--
 Stuffed deer heads on walls are bad enough, but it's worse when they
are wearing dark glasses and have streamers and ornaments in their
antlers because then you know they were enjoying themsleves at a party 
when they were shot.                   --  Ellen DeGeneris
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 93 23:07:55 GMT

In article <-dtr5sq@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
>
>>Why is it any more of a close-minded criterium then any other criteria like
>>intelligence, humor, physical characteristc, geographic location, level
>>of education, lifestyle compatibility, sexual preference, etc?
>
>This argument, and others like it, smack close to hypocracy- 
>Anybody remember the close-minded criterium of Mr. Wright? Your
>arguments for religious restrictions in dating like that are identical
>to Ed's arguments for his criterium.
>
>Substitute that one lady's griping of dating material with 'educated' for
>'jewish' and 'surrounded by health-nuts' for 'surrounded by christians'
>and the two arguments would be identical.

Superficially, perhaps, but only superficially.  While it doesn't require
too great a stretch of the imagination to believe that a Jewish woman
would be 'surrounded by Christians' in a medium-sized midwestern city,
it is much harder to accept the notion that the entire female population
of a large Texas city should use a bodybuilder-type paradigm as an 
inflexible and absolute dating criterion.  I didn't notice any messages
arguing her claim that a lot of people in her area are Christian, but I
recall a lot of messages from both women and men disputing Edward's claim
that all women would only date men who were very conventionally good-looking
and muscular.  (Incidentally, I suspect that the criterion "Jewish" is
slightly less restrictive than "must have a PhD in one of the following
subjects....")

>And the argument against that is the same-
>if you restrict yourself to a limited selection of dating material, then you
>have no right to bitch that there is a lack of dating material that meets
>your dating criterium.

Arguable, but "not having a right to bitch" has never stopped anyone
before, so it's unlikely that it'll have much effect now.  Still, you
may have some work ahead of you to convince the rest of the world that
no one has a right to complain about the lack of available dating 
material unless one would be willing to go to any bar in town and 
accept the first offer, regardless of personality, appearance, sex,
or criminal intent.

Trygve
--
"The first 90% of a given task requires the first 90% of the allotted
 time.  The next 5% requires the next 90% of the allotted time."
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 20:33:32 EST
From: <JET3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Picking up the Tab (was: Re: What is gold-digging?)
Distribution: na

In article <1992Dec21.141317.19321@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com
(james.j.dutton) says:
>
>
>
>           No Need to be confused - It's dateing MAN - ooooooHHHHHH
>
>Hi I'm goin down to Schmoe's to slap down some sliders, comin? = you pay.
>
>Hello. Would you like to go to dinner? = I pay.
>
>May I entice you into being flayed alive and having hot oil poured in every
>orifice of your body while a room full of people worship Satan = Dutch date.
>=
Honestly JD, you keel me.... everytime I fall off my chair and howl
till I can't breath.....hehehehehehhe  *weeze* *gasp*  Now my fellow
cohorts are coming around to pick me up off the floor and place me back
in my chair.

So if he asks me out = he pays.
If I ask him out = he pays.
If I say let's go to the pub, comin'? = He still pays.

Jean


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tjj@thumper..bellcore.com (J Tim Jordan)
Subject: Re: Help, Want Singles Ski Club in Northern NJ
Reply-To: tjj@nomas.bellcore.com (T. Jordan)
Organization: Bellcore MRE
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 17:55:55 GMT

In article <102842@netnews.upenn.edu> crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:
>In article <1992Dec21.164644.1059@walter.bellcore.com> tjj@nomas.bellcore.com writes:
>
>>Hi, 
>>Can anybody give me the name of a popular singles ski club in New Jersey.
>
>This is the first I've heard that there were any hills in New Jersey. 
>What would these folks do, ski down each other's driveways?  Or are we
>talking about water skiing in the middle of December?

I would hope the ski club would go to places like Killington, Whiteface,
Mt. Snow, etc. but I would like the bus to leave from here.

>I know, I'm crabby today.  It's this bronchitis.  Think I'll go home and
>come back when it's gone.

Everyone get colds, bronchitis, flues, etc. but not everyone has the 
disposition of getting crabby during these times. I would suggest Lauren
that you seek therapy so that every time your not feeling well you
stop taking it out on who ever is convient to take it out on. 
I'll be waiting for your apology.
Tim




Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: mel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Meloney D Cregor)
Subject: Re: rON bashing
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 02:07:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.192225.14625@ncsu.edu> dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
>Perhaps we're not reading the same articles.  Did you happen
>to catch this insult directed squarely at Ms. Kitsis' religious 
                                                       ^^^^^^^^^ 
>
beliefs:
^^^^^^^^
>  "I think it idiotic to be utilizing modern technologies that spread your 
>   words worldwide almost instantaniously, but refeuse to eat a ham-and-cheese
>   sandwich because you might get condemned to whatever for it."

And so it seems, we are reading the same articles. However, it would
also seem we have vastly different interpretations of that excerpt.

"I think >it<  idiotic..."  It, as in an idea, not a person.  How is this
a personal attack?   I am not Jewish, so I am not as sensitisized to
personal insult in this area as some others might be.  However, I could
make the statement, " I think it idiotic to have to go to work."   Who
or what would I be insulting then?

>I think Ms. Kitsis is entitled to respond to such intolerant 
>remarks in any manner she pleases.

Indeed she is Mr. Holtsinger, indeed she is.
One can always meet intolerance with invective, but where's the
challenge in that?

(Which is not to say, I can always meet the challenge myself.)
--
     Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.
                                   -- Napoleon
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Subject: Re: What is gold-digging?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:26:28 GMT


I always thought gold-digging (definitely NOT a new term by any means)
is when someone marries a person they don't love but who can offer them
a more comfortable lifestyle then the one they know before marriage.

In The Thornbirds, Luke O'Neill marries Meghann Cleary, has all of her
share of the Cleary fortune transferred into his name, and basically
forgets about her.  He was golddigging.

I think the term typically equates with "marrying for money."
-- 
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Nance Colucci                                      att!ihlpl!colucci
"It'll be better than before.  Yesterday's gone.  Yesterday's gone!"
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From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Date: 30 Dec 92 17:20:13 GMT
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: exudtn@exu.ericsson.se's message of 30 Dec 92 15:17:32 GMT


In article <1992Dec30.151732.7879@exu.ericsson.se> exudtn@exu.ericsson.se (Derek Nelson, xt-dL) writes:

   Ah, but Keith. The Jews (Orthodox) are told by their religion to stay
   separate from the gentiles.  It is a command from G*D.  The so called
   modern Jewish tradition does allow for interaction.  By her own admission
   she is conservative and might mean that she leans more to the orthodox 
   view.  (I don't know I'm just guessing)  Seems like your asking her to 
   change her spots.  

Bzzzt!  

First of all, according to the bible, a Jew is not permitted to marry
a non-Jew.  There is nothing which says "stay separate from the
gentiles".

Conservative Judaism is actually the middle ground between Orthodoxy
and Reformed Judaism.  The Conservative movement within Judaism
started as a reaction to the Reformed.  Many wanted to keep the rules
and traditions which Reformed Judaism discarded, but to modernize --
especially vis-a-vis the roles taken by women.

One of the rules which the Reformed dropped was the prohibition on 
intermarriage.

I am nominally a conservative Jew (I actually belong to a congregation
which sits on the fence between Orthodoxy and Conservatism).  But in
practice and belief, I adhere to my own personal interpretation of
Judaism, which is pretty unique...

Also note that there are subgroupings in these major headings.  For
instance, the Hassidim are a sub-group within the orthodox, and
Lubavich is a sub-group within the Hassidim.

Many people out there seem to get confused about all this.  It looks
like this:

	Political 			Judaism

				|
	revolutionary		|	-- Reconstructionist, Revisionist
				|	\	
				|	 Reformed 
				|	/
	liberal			|	\
				|	 |
				|	 Conservative
	moderate		|	 |
				|	/
				|	\
	conservative		|	 |	-------- Modern Orthodoxy
				|	 |
				|	 Orthodox
				|	 |	-------- Hassidim
	reactionary		|	 |
				|	/
				|
	

I hope that this clears things up a bit...


					Spidey!!!

--
You don't hunt ducks with a turnip! 

 /\ \  / /\  Josh Diamond                                          jmd@bear.com
//\\ .. //\\ AKA Spidey!!!                        ...!ctr.columbia.edu!ursa!jmd
//\((  ))/\\
/  < `' >  \                                              Do whatever it takes.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (Piglet)
Subject: Re: What is gold-digging?
Organization: none in particular
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:52:54 GMT

In article <d4Kx03.5c4fs00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> jsp@pls.amdahl.com writes:
>eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (Piglet) writes:
>
>}In article <47ri039qc4CW00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> jsp@pls.amdahl.com writes:
>}>Ah, maybe this is my problem; I've never been the one who didn't ask (I
>}>mean for a first date, that is).  Hey Piglet, do you know any women in
>}>this area?
>
>}Er, what area would that be?  Could be.  But do you really think
>}I'd share?
>
>The great valley of Santa Clara, CA (said with tongue firmly planted
>in cheek).  But what's this "share" question?  Aren't you the one who
>said, "Piglet, working to increase the numbers of women.asking.men.out"?
>What was that, just hot air?

No, hot air is reserved for balloon festivals, right, Larry?  (No, not
_that_ Larry, Margolis uses hot air for entirely different, if
laudable, purposes.  His sweetie uses helium.)

Oh, I am steadily working to increase the numbers of women asking
men out.  Hey, Kiran, what're you doing Friday night?  Wanna go
out or something?  Come on, women, join in with me.....

>}Piglet  <I suppose, if you ask nicely, and don't forget the
>}         blow job--unlike Muffy, I _don't_ get off with a kiss...
>}         ok, so sometimes...._definitely_ wrong newsgroup...>
>
>Drop on by anytime, but I gotta warn you; I"m very good.

With your tongue firmly planted in _your_ cheek?  This I gotta see.


Piglet <hey, Jeem, what're you doin' tonight?  Wanna get together
        and wax Dawn's mutant sweetie?>
From: keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Vasectomies (was Re: Pre-Sex Contract)
Date: 21 Dec 92 23:28:00 GMT
Organization: California-Nevada Methodist Homes

In article <1992Dec19.010245.27895@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> cjp8b@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Chris Penington) writes:
>excitement" of spraying your "love juices". Most of the bulk in semen
>comes from the prostate, not the testes.

Thanks Chris.  I admit my lack of knowledge on this subject.  However,
since I've never had to deal with it, I guess that's understandable.
I want to thank you again for enlightening me.  Although I still
couldn't even bear the thought of being cut at all down there,
I am glad to know that at least the appearance of normalcy is
maintained after the operation.  Thanks again.
--Keith

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger)
Subject: Re: About Dating Outside One's Group....
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 16:25:02 GMT
Organization: MCSNet, Chicago, IL

In article <1992Dec31.204522.7548@clsi.COM> kevin@clsi.com writes:
>
>In article <ewright.725758900@convex.convex.com>, ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
>> 
>> Ah, come on, cut Jimmy a little slack.  He just managed
>> to compose a complete, intelligible, grammatically correct
>> sentence for the first time in his life.  We'll work on
>> getting him to understand religion, tolerance, and other 
>> abstract concepts, eventually, but for now let's just
>> concentrate on getting his reading, writing, and math
>> skills up to high-school level.
>
>Tangentially:
>
>Are religon and tolerance mutually exclusive ?

No.  See my previous post to this thread.

There are belief systems which believe that not only is one particular path
impossible for all persons, but is not in their best interest.  Ergo, one
must respect another's choice, even if it diverges from one's own.

--
Karl Denninger (karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM, <well-connected>!ddsw1!karl)
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