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From: urbin@interlan.interlan.com (Mark Urbin)
Subject: Re: Neal Knox Update
Organization: Racal-Datacom
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:57:34 GMT

In article <22893@venera.isi.edu> rlewis@isi.edu (Roger Lewis) writes:
>In article <1e6khkINN8n3@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne) writes:
>>      What y'all aren't figuring on.  1994.  I figure the markets
>>   won't shut the government down before then, so Clinton will be able
>>   to make the economy look good.  In sweep the Democrats.  And for guns
>>   " it's time for them to GO! "
>Yeah, send them all back to Gunland where they came from. :-)
>Umm, I'd like it if all the guns disappeared, but how do you suggest
>this is going to happen?  Laws?  Don't make me laugh.  The police
>couldn't catch a cold.
>The war on alcohol was an admitted failure, the war on drugs is a failure,
>what makes you think a war on guns would succeed?
>Besides, I'd prefer that NOBODY had the guns.  If your solution only
>guarantees that people like Koontz, Brisennio, and Powell have guns
>then I'm not for it.
   Don't forget those gunowners in the top ranks of HCI.  Sarah & Jim Brady 
are two prime examples.  (From an interview in Vanity Fair magazine;  the 
Bradys stated that Jim had a gun out of fear that Hinkley would bust out of 
jail and come looking for him)  Their plan is to keep their guns and take 
all the other guns.

Mark Urbin  Racal-Datacom  Boxborough, MA   urbin@interlan.interlan.com   
These opinions are mine.  No one else will admit to them.	          
"It is caffeine alone that sets my mind in motion.  It is through beans of
java that thoughts acquire speed, that hands acquire shakes, that shakes
become a warning...I am...IN CONTROL...OF MY ADDICTION!"
                        --From the Minicon Graffiti Wall, 1989(?)
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Newsgroups: misc.headlines,misc.legal,ny.general,alt.activism
From: isr@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Michael S. Schechter - ISR group account)
Subject: Re: Pastoressa Pleads Guilty to Conspiracy, Tax Evasion Charges
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 13:02:22 EST


Typical. he rips the US off for 100M, and gets a.5M fine...
why not just track down his entire family, and strip _all_ of 
them of any wealth, and then let 'em loose in a town where industry
has moved out of?
Now, that would be a good deterrent for corporate assholes and
their bribery.. 

So.... Just why is Neil Bush still breathing, anyway?
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.yugoslavia
From: an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.politics.guns,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Neal Knox Update
Date: 15 Nov 1992 22:55:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal) says:


      What y'all aren't figuring on.  1994.  I figure the markets
   won't shut the government down before then, so Clinton will be able
   to make the economy look good.  In sweep the Democrats.  And for guns
   " it's time for them to GO! "

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>David Veal     Division of Continuing Education Information Services Group
>               University of Tennessee, Knoxville
>               PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu
>
From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines
Subject: Re: Deer hunting accident with shotgun?
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:36:47 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <13NOV199207571679@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov>, packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes:
> Are deer typically hunted with a shotgun? A story in 
> the NY Times on Thursday reported that a deer hunter
> accidentally killed a jogger with "a single blast"
> from a shotgun. How close would you typically have to
> be from a person to shoot them dead with a shotgun?

East of the Mississippi, yes, because everything is so close 
together.  You hunt deer with a shotgun to reduce the risk of
injuries.

Buckshot loads are both typical for hunting deer, and for
very short range self-defense.  You can expect lethal injuries
with buckshot loads to 100 yards, and I wouldn't discount
the possibility of death to 150-200 yards.

Remember that a deer and a person are somewhat similiar in
requirements for lethal wounding.  A distance of 100 yards
for shotgun deer is sort of the outside limit to expect
a humane kill.

-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
"Foxes prefer rabbits with short claws." -- Nadja Adolf
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,misc.legal
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Court Ruling
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:57:08 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.211424.4102@oneb.almanac.bc.ca> kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay) writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.151701.28669@rock.concert.net> bing@jazz.concert.net (Carter E. Bing) writes:
>
>> COURT ALLOWS INSURANCE CUTS:
>>    Supreme Court action Monday will allow employers to sharply cut 
>> health insurance coverage for workers with AIDS or other costly 
>> illnesses. Without comment, justices declined to hear the plea of 
>> the estate of John McGann, whose Houston employer cut AIDS 
>> coverage from $1 million to $5,000 after learning he had the 
>> disease in 1987. McGann died last year at 47.
>
>Not quite - as I understand it, the ruling (or refusal to rule) only
>effects employers who fund their own health insurance, not all employers - I
>think the news suggested about 40% of US employers would be affected.

Which is incorrect, because the ruling only affects employers in Texas,
Louisiana, and Mississippi.  The other 47 states have no federal law on the
subject.
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,alt.news-media
From: packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer)
Subject: Liberia: synchronous stories in Post & Times
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Dept. of Independence
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:03:00 GMT

On Sunday, both the Washington Post and the NY Times had
front-page articles on the civil war in Liberia. I find this
interesting because the stories seemed to be independent of each
other. Neither story had any news of a breaking event -- they
were both background stories about recent battles, alleged by
the Times to be the biggest in that part of Africa since the
Biafra war of 1967. The stories were each written by staff
reporters of the respective papers and each looked at different
"angles." 

Furthermore, there hasn't been any Liberia news -- in the Times,
at least -- since an item on November 3 about the burial of the
American nuns, whose death was front-page news on the previous
Sunday, November 1. Therefore there was no event of note
immediately preceding the publication of the background stories
that would have triggered them. 

If there were no breaking events, why did the editors of each
paper decide that it was time to run their respective background
stories? Background stories appear every day on front pages,
so it wasn't because Sunday might have been a slow news day. It
could have been chance; there is no practical way to rule this
out, but it's worth looking at some non-chance factors. 

One possibility is that each story contains some nugget of
information that was released by the Liberian government
simultaneously to all journalists and therefore synchronized the
completion of stories that had already been in preparation.
Another is that editors may have a penchant for running stories
on integral multiples of some time period -- week, month, year
-- after a previous related event. The fact that the nun story
was published on a Sunday suggests this as the explanation, and
those familiar with the aniversary sensitivity of much of
journalism will find this a highly plausible one. 
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.yugoslavia,talk.politics.theory,soc.culture.greek
From: U16244@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc
Subject: ARF lies like a dog (Re: TAINT SO
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:27:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: uicvm.92323.112701U16244
 <92321.134338U16244@uicvm.uic.edu> <BxwEyJ.70t@ddsw1.mcs.com>
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

In article <BxwEyJ.70t@ddsw1.mcs.com>, arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) says:
>
>In article <92321.134338U16244@uicvm.uic.edu> <U16244@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>>In article <BxsMvn.9Jz@ddsw1.mcs.com>, arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling)
>says:
>
>The only item worth commenting on in your entire article is the following...
>When the hell did I ever boycott Kosher foods?  I have a kitchen full
>of them  You need to work on your reading skills a little.
>js

Excuse me, but will anyone in the house please speak up if they happen to
remember a certain boycott that Jack Schmidling proposed to show solidarity
for the Palestinians who were being repressed by the Isreali government?

For that matter, anyone out there remember a whole bunch of people shooting
down this idiotic idea so badly that Mr. Schmidling has developed Reaganosis
(the astounding ability to not remember things he said, did, or proposed,
despite the fact that it is public record)?

Calling you Stimpy was an insult... to the cat.  Even Stimpy has some
form of analog memory.

Doug.
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.politics.guns,talk.politics.misc
From: PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal)
Subject: Re: Neal Knox Update
Organization: The University of Tennessee, Knoxville
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:17:22 GMT

In article <JwsauB4w164w@upchrch.UUCP>
joel@upchrch.UUCP (Joel Upchurch  ) writes:

>steve@uswmrg.mrg.uswest.com (Steven Martin) writes:
>
>> Have you included that fact that antigun Senator Tim Wirth stepped
>> out this year and has been replace by a much more favorable Ben
>> Campbell? Although Campbell is still a Democrat, his heart has been
>> in the right place on Gun Controls.
>
>What about the impact of Al Gore having the tie-breaking vote instead
>of Dan Quayle? Also who is going to appointed to fill out Gore's seat
>in the Senate?

       Al Gore will vote however Bill Clinton and the Democratic Party
tells him to vote.  He has no will of his own.  He started out a small
town, rural, pro-gun Representative and ended up a big city, urban, anti-gun
liberal when he moved from East Tennessee Rep. to Tennessee Senator.  He'll
vote whatever it takes to get him a Presidential bid.

       As for his seat, Governor McWherter hasn't given any clues at all
to who he is considering.  The idea has been batted around that he may
appoint himself, since he can't run for Governor again.  (He's
a Democrat, by the way.)


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               University of Tennessee, Knoxville
               PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu
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From: rlewis@isi.edu (Roger Lewis)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.politics.guns,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Neal Knox Update
Date: 16 Nov 92 03:43:20 GMT
Reply-To: rlewis@venera.isi.edu (Roger Lewis)
Organization: Information Sciences Institute, Univ. of So. California

In article <1e6khkINN8n3@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne) writes:
>
>      What y'all aren't figuring on.  1994.  I figure the markets
>   won't shut the government down before then, so Clinton will be able
>   to make the economy look good.  In sweep the Democrats.  And for guns
>   " it's time for them to GO! "

Yeah, send them all back to Gunland where they came from. :-)

Umm, I'd like it if all the guns disappeared, but how do you suggest
this is going to happen?  Laws?  Don't make me laugh.  The police
couldn't catch a cold.

The war on alcohol was an admitted failure, the war on drugs is a failure,
what makes you think a war on guns would succeed?

Besides, I'd prefer that NOBODY had the guns.  If your solution only
guarantees that people like Koontz, Brisennio, and Powell have guns
then I'm not for it.



Newsgroups: misc.headlines,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.yugoslavia
From: George Bogavac <K2GT@UNB.CA>
Subject: RE: Balkan Horror Threatenes Tiny, Tolerant Macedonia
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:01:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.172008.29199@sunbim.be> sk@groo.sunbim.be (Sasa Konecni) writes:
>This is an article from  Columbus  Dispatch,  the  largest  daily
>newspaper in Ohio, USA.
>
>BALKAN HORROR THREATENES TINY, TOLERANT MACEDONIA
>                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>     Kiro Gligorov was speaking in his beautifuly accoutered  of-
                                        ^^^^^^^^^^
>     Gligorov is the handsome, dignified president of  Macedonia,
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>from  Yugoslavia  earlier this year, Gligorov was courageous pro-
                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^
>     He is highly respected, both inside his new state and inter-
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>nationally, for his elegant, commonsense approach to the xenopho-
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>      So little, vulnerable Macedonia, with barely 2 million peo-
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>with  a well-equipped army 25 times larger. Finally, the Gligorov
>government's heroic and successful effort to keep all its hostile
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>minorities  (Albanians,  Romanian  Vlachs,  Bulgarians, Serbs and
>
>     Gutsy little Macedonia  has  fulfilled  every  international
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>[rest deleted]

An unbiased article, if I ever saw one. :-)

Gligorov handsome? Get a life!

Newsgroups: misc.headlines,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.yugoslavia
From: arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling)
Subject: Re: TAINT SO
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 06:20:41 GMT
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL

In article <92321.134338U16244@uicvm.uic.edu> <U16244@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>In article <BxsMvn.9Jz@ddsw1.mcs.com>, arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) says:

The only item worth commenting on in your entire article is the following...

>Let's listen to your lack of objectivity, Mr. "What the hell are
>Hispanics doing on this jury?".  You haven't proven yourself too
>prejudiced in the past by boycotting American made kosher foods
>despite the fact that the only groups conceivably hurt would be
>American Jews and Muslims who adhere to kosher diets and all those
>who produce those kosher foods, and not Isreal, who has nothing to
>do with the American kosher food market.
When the hell did I ever boycott Kosher foods?  I have a kitchen full
of them  You need to work on your reading skills a little.


  Unfortunately, the entire country is in earshot of you,
>and while ignoring you is easier, your views churn my stomach like
>a 500 horsepower outboard motor.


Perhaps you should seek some professional help or at least Mylanta.

js

>> js
>>
>Doug, the ARF-killer.


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From: joel@upchrch.UUCP (Joel Upchurch  )
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.politics.guns,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Neal Knox Update
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 15:46:42 EST
Organization: Upchurch Computer Consulting, Orlando FL

steve@uswmrg.mrg.uswest.com (Steven Martin) writes:

> Have you included that fact that antigun Senator Tim Wirth stepped
> out this year and has been replace by a much more favorable Ben
> Campbell? Although Campbell is still a Democrat, his heart has been
> in the right place on Gun Controls.

What about the impact of Al Gore having the tie-breaking vote instead
of Dan Quayle? Also who is going to appointed to fill out Gore's seat
in the Senate?

(If your mail bounces use the address below.)
Joel Upchurch/Upchurch Computer Consulting/718 Galsworthy/Orlando, FL 32809
joel@peora.ccur.com {uiucuxc,hoptoad,petsd,ucf-cs}!peora!joel (407) 859-0982
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc
From: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Gligorov: His people are hurting for his mistakes.
Date: 22 Nov 92 20:41:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-8298v.32bis
Reply-To: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 


Sasa (suffering from split-personality/MUTLU-syndrom lately, and posting
under the alias Alex Mils) writes:

>TURKEY WANTS BALKAN SUMMIT ON BOSNIA
>Skopje. Turkey is lobbying hard for a Balkan summit on Bosnia-
>Hercegovina without Srbo-Yugoslavia and Greece.
>According to the Turkish paper, "Huriet," Bulgaria, Romania,
>Albania, Bosnia, Croatia, Slovenia, Hungary, Austria and
>Macedonia would be invited to attend the summit.

Great idea. A conversation with one side present, and the other side
banned from the talks. I am sure it will be very productive.

>MACEDONIAN ECONOMY WILL COLLAPSE BECAUSE OF UN SANCTIONS
>Skopje. The latest UN resolution for tougher sanctions against
>Serbo-Yugoslavia will force the Macedonian economy to collapse.
>Steelworks and the chemical industry will be forced to close
>because of its reliance of railroads which run through Serbian
>territory.

 Typical "it is not my fault" attitude from the rulers of Scopjie. They
have alienated 3/4 of their neighbours with their attitudes (Greece
over the "Macedonia" name issue, Albania over the mistreatement of
Albanians, Bulgaria with claims of "Macedonians" in Bulgaria), and now
they blame the UN for their predicament. Not only that, but they are
asking for the UN to compensate them for their self-imposed crisis. What
audacity!

Michael
                                                                               
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.yugoslavia
From: larryd@stein.u.washington.edu (Larry Desoto)
Subject: Re: Neal Knox Update
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:49:27 GMT

rlewis@isi.edu (Roger Lewis) writes:

>In article <1e6khkINN8n3@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne) writes:
>>
>>      What y'all aren't figuring on.  1994.  I figure the markets
>>   won't shut the government down before then, so Clinton will be able
>>   to make the economy look good.  In sweep the Democrats.  And for guns
>>   " it's time for them to GO! "

>Yeah, send them all back to Gunland where they came from. :-)

>Umm, I'd like it if all the guns disappeared, but how do you suggest
>this is going to happen?  Laws?  Don't make me laugh.  The police
>couldn't catch a cold.

[...]

>Besides, I'd prefer that NOBODY had the guns.  If your solution only
>guarantees that people like Koontz, Brisennio, and Powell have guns
>then I'm not for it.

Right, then you would simply be at the mercy of anyone stronger, physically
more powerful, and more ruthless than you.  This is a great idea...if you
are physically fit and adept at street fighting *OR* a member of a gang
of some sort.

You really ought to think about the ramifications.

----
Larry
From: bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: Wood chopping or mowing?
Date: 17 Nov 1992 07:09:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


  Mr. Taylor speaks of using sheep to keep the grass down
and having to mow pretty much all summer.

How about some pointers on this?
Are the sheep harnessed in teams in front of a pull cart?
Or how about a pen on rollers, which they just nudge and
it moves to greener pastures automatically?



-- 
Capt. Kirk: let's head for that planet, third from the sun, it
            looks promising.... |-)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
From: mcconnel@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Terry R. McConnell)
Subject: Fount heater fire hazard ?
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 11:07:55 EST

Winter has arrived early in central New York and I am already
getting tired of hauling water out to the Chicken coop. This
operation is necessary several times a day as the water in
the coop freezes quickly in this weather. Last year we purchased
several Universal Fount heaters from Strombergs. These are basically
round 3 inch high platforms with a heater inside that the waterers
sit on top of. There is a thermostat built in which turns the heater
on whenever the temperature goes below 50F. The units seem reliable
and well made, but I am rather nervous having an electrical source
of heat sitting on top of or close to the dry straw we use for litter.

Has anyone had or heard of a fire caused by these or similar devices ?

Are there any additional precautions I can take ? There is a GFI on 
the circuit. I know that these are very effective in preventing
dangerous shocks, but do they also help prevent fires? (I'm an 
electrical moron.)

-- 
************************************************************************
Terry McConnell       Mathematics/215 Carnegie/Syracuse, N.Y. 13244-1150
mcconnel@rodan.acs.syr.edu                NeXTmail: tmc@barnyard.syr.edu
************************************************************************
From: london@sunSITE.unc.edu (Larry London)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: New Alchemy Institute
Date: 22 Nov 92 01:01:21 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

In article <slnq8+h@lynx.unm.edu> jdaves@triton.unm.edu (Jonathan Daves-Brody) writes:
>Hello.  Does anybody know anything about the New Alchemy Institute?  I've
>seen a couple of interesting books about low-tech fish farming, windmills
>, etc.  The most recent publication dates I've seen have been about 1980.
>Does anybody know anything else, or had any experience with this place?
>
>Thanks, yours, Jonathan Daves-Brody

I have heard they are alive and well and operating as a teaching farm.
I'd like to find out more about them too. I'll see if I can find a
current address for them.

Lawrence

london@sunsite.unc.edu
From: monson@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Tom Monson)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:47:33 GMT
Subject: Wood Splitter Plans Wanted
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: misc.rural

Anybody got a "favorite" set of plans for a medium sized wood splitter?  I have
access to all the tools and materials I should need, but wanted some opinions
for a decent, inexpensive splitter for 24" dia max X 26" long max rounds.
                                             Thanks, TCMonson
From: bill@edsr.eds.com (William C. Slade)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: Sustainable Agriculture Journals List
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:30:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: edsr.1992Nov17.203036.7662
Reply-To: wslade@edsr.eds.com
Organization: EDS Research

In article <1992Nov15.153124.856@samba.oit.unc.edu>, london@sunSITE.unc.edu
(Larry London) writes: 
> Article 230 (65 more) in alt.sustainable.agriculture: 
> From: bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano) 
> Subject: Journals List 
> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 06:20:37 MST 
> 
> This is a partial list of journals concerned with 
> sustainable agriculture.  
> Any additions or corrections are welcome.  
> 
Missing from this list, and a previous list of agricultural journals is:

   Acres U.S.A.
   PO Box 9547
   Kansas City, Missouri 64133

"To be Economical, Agriculture Must be Ecological"
Subscription $17/year

Bill Slade