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From: ROBINSON@ups.edu
Subject: H.Times,Whipping Post,Tape$$
Reply-To: ROBINSON@ups.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 06:04:07 GMT

	This may not be new info, but in an Aug 1992 High Times Mag, if you 
ordered one year subscription, you got Phish's PON. Sweet deal. One year 
and A Phish Cd for 29.95. Anyways, the second thing was in this months 
Guitar MAgazine if the music and Guitar Tab. for the Allman's Whipping 
Post. It sounds very close to old Phish versions(ALA 5-25-88). Pretty cool, 
hopefully a Phish song will be in Tab in the magazine soon. Finally I was 
going to tell everyone about tapes. Regardless of Shipping And Haddling or 
taxes, Terrapin Tapes is NOT the cheapest price. They charge 1.85$ per 
MaxellXLII, and I get them At COSTCO(Is this Nationwide??) for 1.66 per 
tape. They have the new XLII's in 6 packs for 9.99$$. Good Deal HUH!! I 
have heard that Terrapin Tapes gives extra 15% off for orders over 100 
tapes, and If you mention that you heard of them through Bitnet(or some 
other email network). Anyways,  that would only save another few cents per 
tape, and I cannot buy in that kind of volume. Any Cheaper Prices know by 
anybody(At a national chain so all can enjoy??)? Sorry About the length. 
PHISH ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-COlin
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: GELLDAV@karl.acc.iit.edu
Subject: 12/5/92
Reply-To: GELLDAV@karl.acc.iit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:01:08 GMT

	Does anyone have a copy of the 12/5/92 Chicago show?
If so, please e-mail me, I'd very much like a copy...it was my first
show (but not my last -- hopefully they'll make it somewhere close to me 
again).
	I have no tapes but I do have Grateful Dead tapes and will
gladly send money a/o tapes...grovel...grovel.

*	The illusion which man has that his will is free is so deeply     *
*	rooted that I am ready to accept it.  I act as though I were      *
*	a free agent.  But when an action is performed it is clear        *
*	that all the forces of the universe from all eternity             *
*	conspired to cause it, and nothing I could do could have          *
*	prevented it.  It was inevitable.                                 *
*									  *
				* - M. Somerset Maugham   *
				*  from On Human Bondage  *

	Peace

	David Geller
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "John D. Moore" <has2jdm@cabell.vcu.edu>
Subject: Spin Ds Net info, Please
Reply-To: has2jdm@cabell.vcu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:54:05 GMT

Hey there, could someone e-mail me info on the Spin Ds compu-net? 
I'm lookin for DSBDs of them, who's got 'em? 

John: has2jdm@cabell.vcu.edu

PS: no negative comments on them, please, I like 'em!
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: JED <MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Subject: Bob Carpenter
Reply-To: MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:39:59 GMT


I ordered my tix first day at about 10:02 from tm over the phone for
the Bob Carpenter show.  I JUST got them in the mail today.  They say
floor chairs section 21.  I understand this place is very new, but does
anybody know how good these seats are?  I have no idea, but would like
to know.

Thanks,
Joe Doheny
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: kolar@spot.Colorado.EDU (Jennifer Lynn Kolar)
Subject: Re: Colorado Phishing & Skiing
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 07:16:43 GMT

"John D. Moore" <has2jdm@cabell.vcu.edu> writes:

>Any of you colorado pholks heard even rumored dates for Phish? I'm
>contemplating a spring break Phishing and skiing trip and know no
>dates, please help if you can, thanks, JOHN

Phish in Colorado? Hmmm... some hot rumors of a few stops sometime in 
late march early april... lets see.. I have heard rumors now of 2 shows
in Boulder, 1 in Fort Collins, 2 in Colorado Springs and a couple of shows
in the western part of the sate (Telluride, Summit, Steamboat Springs...)
But, as we tend to feel out here, rumors are like the 14 inches of snow
that Boulder is supposed to get yesterday... Believe it when its the real
thing.

Sprite
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Andy Bensky <Andy.Bensky@corp.sun.com>
Subject: Re: Jambay
Reply-To: Andy.Bensky@corp.sun.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:54:14 GMT

I have some live tapes of this band.  They are great!  If anyone is
interested in tapes, I've got a few good soundboards.

There is another band, local to Santa Cruz, called Pele Juju.  They are
a band made up 8 women that jam to some really funky tunes.  I have tapes
of them if anyone wants to get into something new.

Jambay and Pele Juju!!!

listen to new, up-and-coming music!  phish was like that.....once....

andy
From: jsarna@vax.clarku.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: lookin' for Ben of Zen
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:27:28 GMT
Organization: Clark University

hi there...Please Pardon the Personal...

Would the kind gentleman from the U. of Maine (known to me only as
Ben of Zen with Tempeh-mental Sandwiches) please email me?  I've lost
your address, and am still interested in the Jiggle the Handle bootleg
we had been discussing...
thanks!

                -jeremy

p.s. if anyone in the Worcester, MA area is interested, JTH will be
     appearing here @ Clark U. this coming Friday, and will be
     opening for WSP @ Toad's Place in New Haven on Feb. 2.

                -js
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Joseph Collins <collins@gibbs.oit.unc.edu>
Subject: 5/28/89 tree??
Reply-To: collins@gibbs.oit.unc.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:30:06 GMT

Someone mentioned a while back that they were planning on running a tape
tree for 5/28/89 or 11/27/92.  What ever happened to this idea?  I would
love to get on a tree for 5/28/89.  I'm sure there is plenty of interest
on the Net to get a tree for this show going.
       -Joe
From: akeeton@euclid.ucsd.edu (Allan Keeton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Principia Discordia
Date: 21 Jan 93 00:18:58 GMT
Organization: Mathematics @ UCSD


	I was just wondering whether I was legally allowed to distribute
the Principia. I read on the net that it was published "all rights
reversed" so i figured that it was OK. Anyone in the know please let me
know. Moreover, if anyone finds an ftp site for the Principia please let
email me . . . thanks
				. . . allan

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: DCARBALLO%COLGATEU.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Subject: Live album.
Reply-To: DCARBALLO%COLGATEU.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:56:24 GMT

Hey!
     I was wondering if anybody has heard any rumblings about a possible live
album?  I have the feeling that an album filled with the songs that can't be
duplicated in a studio (ie. Hood, Mike's, Suzie, Runaway, Harpua) would be the
best Phish album to date.  It would also be a more accessable means of
spreading the groups live talent around.  BTW thanks for the Mike interview.
Possibly the Shorline vidio could be the answer.  Could anyone post the setlist
for that show for me?
                          Thanks,
                            Dave
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Jonathan Rozes <JROZES@pearl.tufts.edu>
Subject: Re: Possum
Reply-To: JROZES@pearl.tufts.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:52:51 GMT

...in response to whoever said that Possum is really about Mike's girlfriend
and her pre-show, roadside adventure:

If memory serves me correctly (seldom), Possum wasn't written by Mike, but
was in fact written by the guy (name eludes me) who used to play second fiddle
for the band long ago. 

Confirm? Deny? Anyone? Anyone?

jonathan
jrozes@pearl.tufts.edu

"Sandwiches were invented by the Earl of Sandwich, popcorn was invented by 
the Earl of Popcorn, and salad dressing by the Oil of Vinegar."

                                                            -Tom Robbins
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: molly rinaldi <RINA0243@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu>
Subject: janis, everyone please read
Reply-To: RINA0243@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:51:47 GMT

Date sent:  27-JAN-1993 19:25:11 
MY DISCLAIMER::
ok.  first off if this sounds pretentious (sp?) or like i'm telling you all 
what to do, i don't mean to.  this is MY OPINION of this whole event.

  janis-  you came on the .net with your first post and completely attacked 
us.  i must say that i had been sailing on a phish high (thanks every one 
who is helping me with my tape search) because of some pretty wonderful 
people i've met through the .net.  this morning when i read your post, i was 
completely crushed.  i'm serious.  you really burst my bubble.  now i'm not 
saying this to harsh on you. 
   i know that most people wrote back to you and were pretty harsh, but 
what to you expect?  aggression is usually responded to with more 
aggression.  i realize this. that is why i try to reason with people like i 
did with you.  i was hoping that you would see where i was coming from, 
but then you proceeded to call people dickheads? and dweebs?   i guess i 
didn't get my point across.  
   to every on who attacked janis for what she said--
you definitely had the right to yell back at her, i agree she was a bit 
immature in her post, but maybe if we tried to understand where she was
coming from (however far off it was)  things might have been settled better.
there are a lot of people who never post on the .net.  do they feel excluded
like janis does??  maybe we should be concerned.
   call me flower child or what ever you wish, but i know if we had a 
little more give and take and understanding in this world, it would be a 
better place.  WE ALL LOVE THIS BAND!! and we all feel a strong connection 
with them or we wouldn't be here.  i think one of the aims pretty much 
unsaid on the .net is that we want to protect the scene.  not exclude 
anyone from it, but make sure it remains safe and fun for all.  this 
network lets us do that nationwide.....as much as i used to hate computers, 
we are so lucky to have this resource!!
  ok, enough band width.  take care all, 
WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER AND WE LOVE TO TAKE A BATH!!
................we are all too cubed......................................

"bullshit makes the flowers grow
    & that's beautiful."

"plant you seeds!!"

peace.............................................................molly 2^3


Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: PIMBRES1%ITHACA.BITNET@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu
Subject: Lengthwise
Reply-To: PIMBRES1%ITHACA.BITNET@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:52:24 GMT

Hi all,
  I don't remember much ever being said about this tune.  Do you netters prefer
the St. Mike's reggae version or the later "sing-a-long" version.  I personally
thought that the whole reggae bit was pretty interesting.  That boy can do just
about anything. :)
  "This is the one about his uncle in the freezer!"
      - a young women sitting next to me at the Jones Beach Santana/Phish
        show as the band was launching into Tweezer Reprise
           PEETA!
PS- Whats the word on Rochester? Acoustics? Seating? Area? Security?
PSS- Theres a rumor, from a pretty credible source, that there will be a couple
more Trey/Tom tunes this tour- Demand, Gyute, and Lifeline. Don't shoot if this
is a dead end. :p
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From: Jannette Pazer <ibmsupt!ibmpa!jannette.aix.kingston.ibm.com!jannette@uunet.uu.net>
Subject: Re:  Reserved Seating and Taping
Reply-To: ibmsupt!ibmpa!jannette.aix.kingston.ibm.com!jannette@uunet.uu.net
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:50:10 GMT

Hey, if you're a taper and you ask someone to trade reserved seats so you 
can tape from a better location, it's only fair that you offer them tapes
of the show if you gave them worse seats.  And get back to them in a 
timely manner (like within a month so they know if you really planned
to make copies).

As you may have heard from my grovels for tapes for the Albany shows,
my friends gave up our nice center seats for ones in the last row on the 
side because tapers wanted our seats and they offered us copies of the 
show.  Being tape traders and into dancing, we thought it would be the 
noble thing to do, plus we'd get copies of the show and have more room
to dance.  We never heard from them.  We did them a favor, and we got 
ripped off.  So, tapers, please be nice to the people you trade seats for.

Oh, and thank you to all the folks who offered me copies of the Albany
show - you really pulled through for me & my friends!!!

Jannette

-- 
Jannette Wing Pazer 		* 	IBM Kingston, NY - "tangled up in Blue"
		No direct internet access, go through uunet. 
internet:
   panews.awdpa.ibm.com!jannette.aix.kingston.ibm.com!jannette@uunet.UU.NET
uunet:
   uunet!panews.awdpa.ibm.com!jannette.aix.kingston.ibm.com!jannette
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Scott M Sandler <71271.3721@compuserve.com>
Subject: TAPE GROVEL - Roseland
Reply-To: 71271.3721@compuserve.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:13:09 GMT

Okay Now!

I know that the last thing that the net needs is another ticket grovel,
but hell....it's always worth a shot....

Here's the situation:  My friend lives in New York and is inviting
me and another bunch of friends down for the weekend of the Roseland shows,
anyway...the problem is although we want to see phish, he's at bording school up here with me in Canada, and 
we couldn't get tickets cuz we didn't contact his sister in time...
If anyone has ANY AMOUNT of extra tickets to Roseland either night,
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CONTACT ME, I can buy them OR trade tapes for them
or whatever deal that can be arranged....

This is a vital step in US-Canada relations....PLEASE BE KIND!

Hope to hear from somebody

Scott M Sandler

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: molly rinaldi <RINA0243@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu>
Subject: 2^3
Reply-To: RINA0243@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:41:44 GMT

Date sent:  22-JAN-1993 11:39:11 
would the person who originally posted the 2^3 info repost?  i read it and 
understood it at the time, but have list the digest with it in it.  i would 
like to make it clearer to myself, and possible others.
                                           thanks..............molly (2^3)
you could e-mail me directly if you don't want to post it on the net again 
just yet.
From: shell@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: old rift
Date: 23 Jan 93 08:08:00 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, U. C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: gandalf.berkeley.edu

In article <1993Jan23.064548.26953@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> fromm@rock.enet.dec.com writes:
>
>i've got one tape with the "old Curtain" on it; i think it's Pharm Phest, some
>time in 1998; 
         ^^^^  wow!  can I get a copy of this, Rich?  I'm so glad to hear
that there'll be another pharm phest in '98, 'cause I missed the first one
and from the tapes, it must have been a great time....

So if that's the "old Curtain" from 1998, does that make it the *new* old
Curtain?

>it's much more extensive than the "new Curtain", has an
                                   ^in which case you must be referring to
				    the *old* new Curtain here...
>incredible jam, and definitely contains elements of the "new Rift"; that's the
>only time i've ever heard anything different than the "new Curtain"
...would that be the new old Curtain or the old new Curtain?

confused with anticipation,
2^3
Shelly

ps. ;-)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: molly rinaldi <RINA0243@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu>
Subject: take a deep breath...
Reply-To: RINA0243@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:50:17 GMT

Date sent:  27-JAN-1993 10:33:46 
howdy all...
   i think we all need to take a step back and look at what's going on here
.
   janis??  why do you think we are so elitist??  this .net is a way for us 
all to connect and discuss a band and music that we love.  sure, maybe 
sitting infront of a computer for a couple hours may seem wierd to some,  
but your on the net too, remember??  i have met some of the kindest people
on this thing.  (thanks all:)  sometimes i get frustrated with all teh 
technical taping lingo,  but if they weren't able to connect on here, they 
couldn't make such great recordings of shows, that we love to have!!  what 
about tape trees?? do you think that a person who organizes a tree is 
elitist??  how much time do you think they spend so that YOU can have a 
show on tape??
   where else can a person in california connect with someone in florida to 
help plan their phishy vacation??  have you ever used a map that someone 
posted to help get to a show??
    try to understand that some people who have been around for a long time
, have to readjust to the new surge.  can you understand we might be 
concerned when fights are being reported at shows??     
  we are a community here, and no one is turned away.  if anyone does feel
left out, post you feelings.  that's why were here.  
   i'm sure you were expecting posts, and i'm sure there will be many more 
than mine.  but maybe we all need to look at how people feel, and try to 
see why.
   i'm getting really bummed by all these negative vibes lately.  i know 
life is not all peace and flowers, but for me PHISH = HAPPINESS.  

      WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER AND WE LOVE TO TAKE A BATH!!

peace and flowers............................................molly 2^3
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: molly rinaldi <RINA0243@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu>
Subject: Re: n2o
Reply-To: RINA0243@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:36:12 GMT

Date sent:  26-JAN-1993 18:34:27 
  i always assumed, that it was jon sucking the old electrolux.   sounds 
like it to me!!!
........................you are all too cubed!!!........................
plant your seeds...........................stay tuned!!..................
peace...............................................................2^3
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: GRYMBLE GRUMBLE <williama@kenyon.edu>
Subject: Crunch...garble...crunch
Reply-To: williama@kenyon.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 05:04:19 GMT

yeah, so i am sitting munching on some chips causing me to only
be able to type with one hand [wouldn't want to leave the keyboard
sticky] and ...hold on that was getting too read icculus, uh I mean
riddiculous. Anyway, my point...the whole Floyd-Phish connection.
The way I see it, Phish is a whole lot tighter than Floyd will ever be.
Don't get me wrong, I am the BIGGEST floyd head so that was kinda tough
for me to admit. What floyd did and what Phish, IMHO, is not able to do
is to put together concept songs and albums. Yes, of course there is
gamehendge and now there is Rift, but as a whole that was the genius of 
Floyd. Agree or disagree, it's just an opinion...

what i would like to see though is for Phish to do a take off on 
floyd. Like during some show they completely go into a free form 
song (like union federal) and try to feel their way through it. I
am talking total Syd Barrett like genuis! It could last for an entire
mind blowing set! Could you imagine. Now that would be a show IMO!

of course these are just dorrito dreams and with that back to
my munching...

                                             crunch,
                                                     dre. :^)
"sometimes the cards ain't worth a damn if
 you don't lay them down!" -GD
From: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: 2 discs in COLUMBIA HOUSE catalog
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:36:16 GMT
Reply-To: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Organization: The Internet

The recent "issue" of the Columbia House tape/disc club's The
Music Source lists the following two entries on page 33:

"Phish * Lawn boy. 1990 reissue from free-jamming retro-rockers.
The Oh Kee Pa Ceremony; My Sweet One; Bathtub Gin; Reba; title
cut; more. (Elektra)  439075 C 9.98/4.99 T 14.98/9.99"

   - and -

"Phish * A Picture of Nectar. Take rock and jazz.  Add calypso,
reggae and barbershop.  Stir.  Chalk Dust Torture; Geulah
Papyrus; The Mango Song; etc. (Elektra) 436824 C 9.98/4.99  T
14.98/9.99."


(NOTE: I am in no way connected with columbia house. this info is
posted for entertainment purposes; i amnot getting a commission)

For those in the "club", this month the deal is a bit different.
rather than getting a discount on every other buy, you buy the
first tape/disc at regular price and "take all your other"
selections at the sale price.  PON for ten bucks.  Not bad.

BTW, I can't find Widespread, Blues Traveler, Spin Docs, Bela or
the other HORDE-related "up and coming" bands of the similar
audience genre.  Looks like our boys stand WAY out from the
crowd.  Any bets on the opening date (month and year) for the
first mail-order for Phish at RFK?  I'll say.... April 1994 (for
summer shows) ?


ELLIS OF LEMURIA  email: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
   snail mail: P.O. Box 3240, Charlottesville, VA 22903
     +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
motto: keep smiling, gliding, and riding that train!!  :-)
From: BONG@.slac.stanford.edu (Eric Bong)
Subject: Re: tape->DAT->CD whatever
Followup-To: rec.music.phish
Organization: SLAC
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:03:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.165956.29588@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, Jeff Maggard
22-Jan-1993 1149 <maggard@subpac.enet.dec.com> wrote:

> I agree with Dre in a preference for recordable CD's.  Sony's Minidisk (like
> DCC) doesn't preserve enough sonic information, IMO.  The day will come
> when they can record onto optical disks in real time without needing to lop
> off 3/4 of the bit stream.  I'll be the first guy in the store on that day!

  Get your checkbook out!

  In the last issue of Mac Week a Pinnacle Micro announced a recordable
CD drive in a half height SCSI package. It can record in several formats.
The audio format can be played in consumer CD players. Price is $4k.
Media is $39. I'd love to have one, but it's out of my price range.

Contact: Pinnacle Micro, 19 Technology, Irvine, CA 92718
         (714)727-3300 or (800)553-7070  FAX(714)727-1913

  No I don't know anyone there. I just reead the announcement.

Have fun!
Eric Bong
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Mike formica <IQM334@uriacc.uri.edu>
Subject: Ness tale
Reply-To: IQM334@uriacc.uri.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:17:59 GMT

Does anyone know the email address of whoever wrote the NESS tale. I tried
emailing the one in the stories file, but was told that it was undeliverable.
Have they moved?(probably) Will somebody please e me a new address. Thanx
                                              Mike
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: ADDST3@vms.cis.pitt.edu
Subject: Re: Fee on Lawn Boy???
Reply-To: ADDST3@vms.cis.pitt.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:14:05 GMT


IN Phish Digest #768, Volume #1,  Benjamin.M.Brainard@dartmouth.edu writes:

!I got my copy of Lawn Boy mail order from Phish, and there was no fee on it.
!perhaps there were multiple pressings of the album before the distribution
!company disappeared?  this version of the album has the absolute a go go
!liner notes, mispellings included, and i think there's even a mispelling on
!the actual cassette, where lawn boy is tagged as law boy.

You have one of the original cassette printings of Lawn Boy. They probably
couldn't fit Fee as easily onto cassette (CDs have more room than the avrg.
cassette). I would consider you tape a definite collector's item as well!
Hold on to it.

				Later,
				Aaron Dunsay
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: SCA7477@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
Subject: re:take a deep breath...
Reply-To: SCA7477@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:53:00 GMT

right on, molly! :-) :-} :-]  ......chris
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