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From: rtaraz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: theft prevention
Date: 9 Oct 92 10:28:50
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
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How about installing a little switch on the ignition coil to ground it
when you turn the switch on.  So no body will be able to start the
bike unless they know where the switch is.  This will be like having a
hidden kill switch. 

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From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Re: How far do you commute/Cereal for Breakfast
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 12 Oct 1992 23:21:10 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
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In article <9901038@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
wrote:
> 
> In rec.motorcycles, tjohnson@atcc5.prime.com (Tod J Johnson) writes:
> 
> > P.S. Does anyone eat Cereal for Breakfast besides me?? 
> 
> Yes.  A real man's breakfast.  Bourbon and Wheaties.  

Rice Krispies and Beer.  Snap, Crackle, Burp.

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834 | DoD #207  AMA #573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci.  | KotNML  /  KotB      |
| "You can lead the house to order, but you     | '81 CB750C           |
| can't make it think"  -William Weld (Gov. Ma.)| '88 Bianchi Limited  |
From: randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: ZX-11 outperforms Harley, obviously (was Re: Harley Outperforms ZX11, Film at Eleven)
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:12:32 GMT
Reply-To: randy@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California

In article <1992Oct14.215005.5988@rtsg.mot.com> declrckd@rtsg.mot.com (Dan J. Declerck) writes:
|I suggest either side give it up, you can't win in the other's mind.

  Uh, Dan... I think we already did give up about two days ago.  Your newsfeed
must be slow :-).  (I've been off flaming morons on the bicycle thread).  Nor
was I trying to win anyone's mind (or so I thought), other than to convince
them of the viability of *my* preferences, and that they were just as important
to me, as their preferences are to them.

|BTW: my neighbor wons two Harleys, and FLH, and a highly modified sportster.
|He likes my EX500 for it's new features and speed, and I like his bikes
|for the heritage and looks (you gotta see the paint job on this sportster!!).

  Amen to that.  I've said a number of times that I like the looks of Harley's
- some are simply gorgeous.  The heritage is cool, also.  And there are a LOT
of things that Harley's excel at, as Chuck Rogers tends to get just as verbose
about.  All my debate was about personal choices as relating to the actual
abilities of different motorcycles.  When it comes to driving down the road
I want something different than what Harely currently has to offer - this is
not ever meant as a slam against Harley.  If Harley ever built something that
satisfied those requirements (which also, alas includes *some* financial
limitations), I'd buy it.

Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: The Lockheed Star FB-750 (fighter bike) (was: Re: Harley Outperforms ZX11, Film at Eleve
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:14:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: ttinews.1992Oct16.161403.18868
Organization: Black Belt Motorcyclists Association

In article <SHAFER.92Oct14204105@ra.dfrf.nasa.gov> shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer) writes:
+
+We just bought a new car and were really tempted by the HUD that Olds
+offers.  We ended up with a car that didn't have the HUD as an option,
+but I think that having a HUD would be a hollow gesture without
+Sidewinders and a cannon (see my signature).

So you bought a car that had Sidewinders and a cannon instead?
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the world into two different types and there are those that don't.
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From: bloom@inland.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Know someone at Triumph or Norton???
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:53:37 CST
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

In article <1992Oct8.155232.23976@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) writes:
> In <1992Oct07.095832.345@bnr.uk> datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
> 
>>Jorg Klinger (klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca) wrote:
>>: In <SES.92Oct6115651@cmns-sun.think.com> ses@cmns-sun.think.com (Simon Edward Spero) writes:
>>: 
> 
>>The company is called Triumph, they manufacture Triumph motorbikes.  They are
>>not called Bonneville, they do not manufacture Bonnevilles or clones of them.
>>Is there something wrong with you?  Do you expect a company to manufacture one
>>product only, forever?  
> 
>>Nick (the British Biker)   MAG 73516  DoD 1069  Concise Oxford
> 
>>M'Lud.


Why not? ...........Harley does.
I'm still pissed that the British managed to kill off the best of the 
Britbikes, the Norton.  Maybe we could get the Japanese to buy the rights 
to build the 1969 Fastback Commando.  I'd love to get their quality and 
reliability with the looks, sound and handling of the Norton.
.........Dr. Doom
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern)
Subject: Re: ignore  -  test
Organization: NCAR/UCAR
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:23:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.230106.16712@colorado.edu>, laszlo@piper.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
> 
> all bicyclist should stay off the road. its for motorcycles.
> since we pay road taxes that they (bicyclist) aren't willing
> to. also there should be helemet laws for bicyclists
> 
> laz

Yeah, and I noticed you left off your .sig about your SO trusting
you more on your motorcycle than on your bicycle...and we all know
which you've been riding more lately anyway...you flame-baiter you...

-- 
/\     It's not denial.  I'm just very selective about the reality I accept.
  \_][ <--NCAR Ilana Stern dod#009 r.b. cliff swallow ilana@ncar.ucar.edu    
      \______________________________________________________________________
From: ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:04:56 GMT
Subject: Re: R100GS; Drive Splines, I DID IT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

 
> ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller) writes:
> 
> >SUPPLEMENTAL INSTRUCTIONS TO THE  JOB OF REMOVING THE REAR DRIVE CASE
> >IN ORDER TO GREASE THE DRIVESHAFT SPLINES ON R100GS
> 
> So Ron, is this where I'm not supposed to say "Gee, I sure wish I had
> one of those low maintenance shaft drive bikes." ?  :-)
> 
> -- 
> Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g


Ok, wise guy.  Hope you have your insulating undies on-

(Yet another chapter in the FJ vs. GS debate begins. Nothing personal, 
 you understand, we just can't let the newbies misunderstand and think that
 THEY are allowed to snipe at one of the DoD Bikes of Choice.......)

1. I didn't have to do this job until 40,000 miles. I did it as much out of
   curiosity as anything. ("How do it do that?")

2. It only took about 2.75 hrs the first time. I have all this extra time
   leftover from needing only 30 minutes (or less) to check/adjust my
   valves. I suspect it would take you this long to just get TO your
   valves..... 

   Or did I save all this time from the quick release wheels from the last
   tire change when I had both front and rear wheels removed in less than
   5 minutes, including taking the tools out of the kit?

3. Do you have any maintenance items scheduled for a 40k interval?

  (Other than, "Come on down to your Yamaha dealer showroom and ogle the
   new ones because your old one is worth 20% of what you paid and that
   neon/flourescent paint job is looking kind of dated" of course.)

4. It takes just as long to change a chain and sprockets. And an annual
   gear oil change more than offsets lubing and adjusting chores.

   (Of course I have to wash the logging road mud off the fill plug first.)

5. This was unexplored territory. I got several positive comments via
   email. Would you get such comments for explaining how to change a 
   simple 'ole chain??? 

6. I have a shaft and I'm proud of it. (To quote Lasxthlo: " Yeah, you can
   quote me on that.")


The R100GS: It's not pretty. It's wierd. And it makes me happy I have one.
102 mph and logging roads to go fishing off in the deep woods of Colo. too. 
Betcha can't do that with an FJ.

Ron
Organization: Mythos/Xcalbrin Inc.
X-School: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 09:31:08 EDT
From: JJ Serowik <JJS158@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: If you could pick only 5 bikes...
 <Bw4Du9.Jyt@acsu.buffalo.edu <1992Oct15.123330.6809@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>

Easy-
     1. XR650L-Best Dual Sport Around. Some Mods like a bigger tank and such.
     2. RZ350-Nothing sounds like a two stroke.
     3. Kawasaki-Egli Turbo-  250mph seems good to me.
     4. CR500-Big Open Class MXer.
     5. Kawasaki ZX11-Fast, Comfortable, and Beautiful....my kind of bike.


Runners up, and why-

     1. XR250L-not enough power.
     2. CBR900RR-Good Looking, Fast, but not like a ZX11
     3. KX500-Fast Open Class MXer and Desert Sled, but it's a Cowsucker.
     4. CR250-Not fast enough.
     5. Any Harley-Only got Five choices and it didn't fit in:)
From: thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Mounting radar detectors on bikes
Date: 8 Oct 92 06:24:21 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

>From the Oct. '92 issue of Cage & Dozer, here's their VG-2
>detector-detector range measurements:

>Valentine One	"Invisible"
>Bel 966ST	20'
>Cobra RD-306	600'
>Escort 3200	800'
>Whistler 880	4000'

Incidentally, I hear the last unit in the above list is effective for
scaring away deer, too.
-- 
Paul Thompson    Apple Computer    DoD #47    Would you remember a 1-line .sig?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: lane@unislc.uucp (David Lane)
Subject: New Indian?
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:36:17 GMT

A non-riding friend said he'd heard that a new bike under the
company name "Indian" is going to be produced in the U.S.  Can 
anyone comment?

David Lane
Lines: 27
Date: Fri,  9 Oct 92 08:08:42 MDT
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: rec.moto.tech
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
From: bigdog@bones.et.byu.edu (Dan Canfield)

>	i really think the noise will not follow, because people
>	who make noise on rec.moto (i hope including me) aren't
>	irresponsible (most of the time). rec.moto happens to be a place
>	for bikers to relax and have fun! i doubt if people would
>	intentionally generate noise in a group that is technically
>	oriented.
>
>	peace,
>
>	- ravi

I'm afraid not.  I can see it already.  "My riceburner has the latest
in this or that technology" and then someone else pipes in "my Harley
has the latest in this or that other technology" and off we go with
it in rec.moto.tech.

I think it will follow wherever their is talk about motorcycles.

Dan Canfield
bigdog@bones.caedm.byu.edu

DoD #0071,RP90
'89 FJ1200
'89 Indy707
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From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Northern friggin Exposure.
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:58:06 GMT


Chris Peterson did some good shit in high school. Make that stuff.
 
Sends his Harly over a cliff for a women who sits around looking
at pi all day and I assume gets paid for it.
 
I was going to hunt her down but then I saw her looking at
a sport bike Mag.
 
What a women. Humina humina.
 
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Subject: Re: walking bike (Was: Re: The Dead Battery Problem)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 06:02:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.015524.768@csrd.uiuc.edu> leung@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Bruce 
Leung) writes:
>

[About California law requiring that feet be able to touch ground while
rider is sitting on motorcycle]

>>I'm surprised that other states don't have similar requirements. 
>
>Why?  I don't see what being able to touch both feet has to do
>with being able to ride or handle the bike.

It doesn't surprise me that there are laws which have nothing do to with 
safety, or that laws which might be good for safety aren't there.  What
would surprise me is a substantial difference between the vehicle codes in
different states.  Don't many states follow some kind of uniform vehicle
code?  There are certainly lots of regulations imposed by the federal
government.  Of course, California might be an exception, as it is in so
many things. 


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From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Almost had it stolen tonite!
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:43:44 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Brice Dowaliby (bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU) wrote:
: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
: 
: >John Hamilton (john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG) wrote:
: 
: [bunch of stuff about effects of various sizes ammunition deleted]
:  
: >What a lovely country you Americans live in.  How did you manage to get 
: >yourselves in such a mess?
: 
: What's your point, Nick?  John did say "If I have to shoot someone with 
: my .357, I will shoot for the center of the chest, and they won't get 
: back up. Hopefully, that won't ever have to happen."  Is it this desire
: to *not* to have to shoot somebody which makes you wonder about the
: state of the country?  What do Brits say, "I hope I get the chance
: to shoot someone today?"
: -- 
:    Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
:                          bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
:              I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
:                               DoD # 0698


No, I don't think so.  We don't ever talk about guns, never mind shooting 
people with them.  Just a difference in our cultures I suppose.  We/I believe
that a lot of Americans still think they are on the Frontier and that guns are
necessary to keep the country away from The Enemy, whomsoever they may be 
nowadays.  We/I feel this is a little strange and are glad that we don't live
in similar circumstances and surroundings.  Northern Ireland is bad enough for
us/me to understand, it's difficult to conceive of the need to have to kill
your fellow man, wether you are intent on robbing them, defending yourself or
catching somebody.  Our police-force, the oldest in the world, has managed so
far without the need to constantly carry guns.  I think that this is great 
because it means that guns are almost never seen by the Great Unwashed (general
public) and they/I do not bacome familiar/complacent with them.  They are not
readily to hand when situations escalate and so deadly violence is a rare event
in this country.  I do not pretend that any of this is true or that I have much
notion of the causal relationships in this particular scenario but it seems to
make some kind of sense to me.  Unfortunately, your country has become so used
to having guns that it would be difficult to ban them or make it more difficult
for citizens to obtain them without considerable hue and cry of the "how come
he's got one and I can't" variety.  "A country born on the gun, will live by
the gun and will eventually die under the gun" I read somewhere.  Ho hum....


Nick (the Gunless Biker)   MAG 73516   DoD 1069   Walther PPK


M'Lud.


Sidecar>  It's a sad reflection on our times when a country is considered 
          boring and dead when the crime rate is so low that a house robbery 
          makes it to peak time television.  This is true though, and I am not
          talking about Britain.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: keller@hubble.ifa.hawaii.edu (Tim Keller)
Subject: Re: Leaning into it
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 08:30:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.165107.3888@znext.cts.com> erika@znext.cts.com (erik astrup) writes:
>labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
>: 
>: Sure you can lean a bike then go into the curve but if you find that you 
>  don't have enough lean angle for the turn
>: then you might just high side before you could get the weight shift
>: to work for you.
>: 
>
>	Huh? How in the world are you going to HIGHSIDE going into a
>corner and suddenly realizing that you are not leaned over enough? Last
>time I saw a high side (the guy in front of me at the race track, great
>view) the bikes rear slid out completly and then grabbed again. Slinging
>it's ex-pilot into the sky. High siding on the street is not a common
>accident, unless you think you're Joe racer and routinely slide the rear
>on the boulevard. 
>	
I always wondered (perhaps those with racing experience can supply the info)
what would happen if the rider pulls in the clutch after the rear tire starts
to slide? Would you still high side? Would it cause you to low side instead?
From: marcl@os-d.isc-br.com (H. Marc Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Brocure info on 1993 Yamaha GTS1000A
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:14:13 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:

>In article <marcl.719253414@os-d>, marcl@hela.isc-br.com writes:

	[text deleted from Yamaha sales brocure]

>oh, give me a break!  500 words of technobable and not one word
>about how the bike *feels to ride*.  

>ok, lets deconstruct this ad a bit.  notice any pattern?

>>new GTS1000A -- the world's first 
>>Advanced Sport
>>revolutionary engineering
>>new era in motorcycling -- the civilized sport machine. 
>>radically new machine opens 
>>the latest chapter in Genesis design, with
>>concept. 
>>outstanding handling, 
>>enhanced suspension performance and
>>unparalleled rider comfort. 
>>new front suspension concept includes a 
>>fully adjustable single shock,
  [more sales babble deleted]
>>way ahead of it's time.  

Sure, the pattern of a sales critter.  Kinda like a trailer for a movie
which hasn't been made yet -- the brocure was lacking in certain technical
details.  As for how it feels to ride, I've only heard FOAF stories, which
as you might expect are totally favorable (as the riders were all Yamaha
dealers & staff).

--
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ISC-Bunker Ramo Corp.         |  e-mail: marcl@hela.ISC-BR.COM
22425 E. Appleway Ave.        |  or:  ...!uunet!isc-br!hela!marcl
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From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Accident Report
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:47:50 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH

rtaraz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz) asks:

>How do you DODers feel about suing other people for little injuries?

If the little injury requires medical treatment and you have no
insurance, I would certainly talk to the offenders insurance company.

For a little injury (treating of scrapes, for instance), the lawyer
fees would be larger than any payment, and it doesn't seem worth the
trouble, to me.  How much does a band-aid cost, anyway?

-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
From: carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Advice on HG leathers
Keywords: Scout,Concord
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:36:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: frigg.carlp.718572962
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

gal@calliope.uucp (Gal Kaplan) writes:

>So, having heard all the praise, I got the Hein Gericke catalog, 
>and the "Scout" jacket from the new HG FirstGear line or the 
>"Concord" from the old line look appealing (both have the snap-in 
>thermal liner, lots of pockets); 
>drawbacks: they don't zip to HG pants, and have an elasticized
>waist.

>So, I'm trolling for opinions on the Scout/Concord,
>and on the HG Nevada touring pants & boot-cut leather jeans.

I have the Concord and like it.  Cooling system works well enough for
me to wear it (over a soaked T-shirt) across some Nevada and Oregon
and Idaho and Washington deserts without exterme discomfort.

Thermal liner works very well.  If I had to change mine at all, I'd
make it just a tiny bit longer.  If I ever buy another one, I'll
probably get a 52 Long instead of 52 Regular.  I wish it had a couple
larger inside pockets, but no big deal.
--
Carl Paukstis, RRR&RSG           | "Good men must not obey the laws too well"
 ISC-Bunker Ramo / Spokane, WA   |    -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
 Phone: +1 509 927-5439          |  
 Mail: carlp@frigg.isc-br.com    |  My employer accepts no responsibility...
From: n8643084@henson.cc.wwu.edu (owings matthew)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: If you could only have five...
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:34:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Oct16.183439.25940
Organization: Western Washington University

Marty's top five:

1.  87 250 ninja (got one) nothing else looks like it.
2.  Always the newest ZX-11
3.  86 VFR 750 Interceptor - looks exotic and 0-60 in 2.4
4.  ATK 604 - street legal dirt bike.  Wheelies all day.
5.  Gold Wing SEI or whatever top line one is.

Also rans:  Gilera CX.  ZZR-250.  ZX-7.  The new Yamaha Sport-Tourer.
CBR-900RR.  The list goes on.

Marty O.
87 250 ninja type rider person

"It's a feeling that we all wanna know
and it's an obsession to some
to keep the world in your rearview mirror
while you try to run down the sun"

"Wheels" Rhestless Heart