HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: samr@saipan.wri.com (Sam Roseman)
Subject: Re: [9F07] Mr. Plow
Keywords: simpsons
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:18:26 GMT

bigfoot@sequent.com (Gregory Smith) writes:

>A "parsec" is a unit of distance. Star Wars used it incorrectly as a 
>measure of time. A parsec is the distance at which an object appears
>to move a single second of arc against the most distant background when 
>the Earth moves to the opposite side of it orbit around the sun. If I 
>remember correctly, that works out to about 3.25 light years. 

pretty good memory:

parsec \'paHr-,sek\ n
[parallax + second]
(ca. 1913)

:a unit of measure for interstellar space equal to a distance having 
a heliocentric parallax of one second or to 206,265 times the radius 
of the earth's orbit or to 3.26 light-years or to 19.2 trillion 
miles (30.9 trillion kilometers) 

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From: pi@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Raymond L. Gilbert)
Subject: Re: Simpsons Moderated Group?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 03:06:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.214252.3605@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:

[talk about wanting be a moderater for a new ats]

>Just a pipe dream.

    Is it?  What is the official process of creating such a moderated
group?  Its geting really tough keeping up with this group when there
are so many faqs, etc, posted all the time.  Can we vote on such a
group?  It used to be much better when the capsules by Raymond Chen were
posted just after the episode to avoid a lot of what is going on now.
Maybe Chris could try to speed up capsule production?  If that's not
possible, and I know that is a big time committment, then I'd be all for
a moderated ats or subgroup.

>The utility of having a moderated subgroup would be limited.  alt.tv.simpsons
>itself would receive more traffic, and many people such as myself would feel we
>still want to read both, and would cross-post articles, and they'd generate
>more followups in alt.tv.simpsons itself, and eventually the use of the
>moderated group would decline and vanish.
 
    I thought the whole idea behind a moderated subgroup would be that
the moderator would sift through all the stuff on ats and only pick out
the "new" information.  That way, new people could still post and
respond to faqs while the people already here could just talk about
things we don't already know.  I swear I'm going to unsubscribe if I
read another post about where is Springfield or what does "OFF" stand
for.

    So what do other people think about seriously giving consideration
to a modertated subgroup like alt.tv.simpsons.moderated?  How do we
petition usenet for the creation of such a group, esp seeing as how we
already have a victim... er, I mean volunteer for the moderator?
(thanks Alan!) :-)


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From: bigfoot@sequent.com (Gregory Smith)
Subject: Re: [9F07] Mr. Plow
Keywords: simpsons
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 20:07:55 GMT

hot@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (henry.o.tirado) writes:

>In article <1992Nov22.233532.21257@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jwlr@escher.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) writes:
>>c8923075@frey.newcastle.edu.au (Chris Baird) writes:
>>>A hectare is a unit of area, not length.
>>Ah, a reference to _Star Wars_. ("She'll do the Kessel run in 3.2
>>parsecs." misquoted from memory)
>>
>>A parsec is a unit of distance, not time.	I-)

>I beg to differ, Captain Solo.   ... "it's the ship that made the Kessel
>Run in less than 12 parsecs." 

>A parsec's a unit of time.  It's even got "secs" for seconds in the word. 
>Besides, a feat of that sort in time/space would have to mean either greater
>distance or less time for the Kessel Run.   :-)  QED

A "parsec" is a unit of distance. Star Wars used it incorrectly as a 
measure of time. A parsec is the distance at which an object appears
to move a single second of arc against the most distant background when 
the Earth moves to the opposite side of it orbit around the sun. If I 
remember correctly, that works out to about 3.25 light years.
From: jwlr@dali.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: How do you know?
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:04:58 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

KitchenRN@ssd0.laafb.af.mil writes:

>The media made a big deal of it when Dustin Hoffman appeared, but I never 
>heard a similar orgy of info about the "Michael Jackson" appearance, so I was 
>never sure that it really was Michael, but, unless all of the media were 
>wrong, it was DEFINITELY Dustin.

S'funny. *I* remember a "Big Deal" about *someone* who sounds an *awful* lot
like MJ, but *nothing* about Dustin.

				James Willer
[any opinions above are already registered with the federal government]
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From: craig@odie.cs.mun.ca (Craig Coffin)
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:26:06 GMT

>>I know there was a big thread here recently about an Ayn Rand reference
>>on the Simpsons.  I don't want to get in a debate about her, but I did
>>miss the episode, and I am intensely curious to know what happened.  If
>>someone could post a synopsis of what happened during that scene, I
>>would really appreciate it.


>     In this episode, Marge was in a musical version of "Streetcar Named
>Desire" (I think it was called "Streetcar!") and so it turned out that
>Maggie needed to go to a daycare center.  The only one that's not
>under investigation by the state is the Ayn Rand Center for Tots (or
>something like that).  The head of the center is a very prude woman
>who has apparently adopted some of the ideas of Ayn Rand 
>"objectivism" (based upon her dialogue).  When the Simpsons bring Maggie
>in she's reading "the Fountainhead Cookbook."  Maggie is then taken to 
>a sort of plain room full of babies-- on the wall is a sign "A is A"
>rather than the usual "A is [picture of an apple]."  Maggie's pacifier is locked
>away in high cabinet or locker with a hundred or so other pacifiers.
>In what I guess one might call the Ayn Rand tradition, Maggie takes
>control and retrieves the pacifier through a series of complicated steps
>(she has contraptions made from a Krusty doll, milk bottle, and other 
>things that help her retrieve the pacifiers).  Later there's a scene
>where Homer arrives to pick up Maggie and walks into a room full of
>babies sucking on their pacifiers.  There's an echoing sucking sound as
>Homer carefully and slowly walks through the sea of babies, gets 
>Maggie, walks out backwards, and goes "Oooohhh babies."
>     I hope I got this right--- There may have been Atlas Shrugged 
>references that I didn't pick up since I haven't read it yet.

So, who's Ayn Rand?

-- 

Craig Coffin          |  "Try not.  Do, or do not.  There is no try."
craig@odie.cs.mun.ca  |       -- Yoda, TESB

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From: bassler@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (bassler ryan p)
Subject: Re: Bart's calls to Moe's Tavern
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 05:06:24 GMT

I'd be very grateful if you could figure out how to post properly...
Stuck in Champaign
From: sichase@csa3.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Mr. Plow DYN (11/19/92)
Date: 20 Nov 1992 08:02 PST
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
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In article <1eisioINN5uo@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen) writes...
> 
>Great episode. Some of my favorite moments (the kind which I
>tend to replay in my mind hours later and STILL laugh at them):

>But the part that truly still cracks me up is imagining poor
>Homer risking his life driving a snowplow over a rickety,
>decaying bridge, looking to his left and seeing one of the
>more beautiful, large, and sturdy bridges imagineable.
>His reaction: "D'oh!"

A much better laugh is when he was teetering over the edge of the
abyss and tunes his radio to the high end of the dial to tilt the car
back to an upright position.

I also liked "Well, it's a lousy station, but the Simpsons are finally
on TV."  Fox affiliate stations are usually smaller, more eccentric places
than the big three.

-Scott
--------------------
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SICHASE@CSA2.LBL.GOV		 although I have no right to say so, having
				 been a single cell so long ago myself that I 
				 have no memory at all of that stage of my 
				 life." - Lewis Thomas
From: wagenfuh@huey.udel.edu (Karl Wagenfuehr)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: "McMahon & Tate" in 9F07? (snow plow episode)
Date: 22 Nov 92 19:16:56 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark

In article <By004I.IGu@ddsw1.mcs.com> dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com (DWT) writes:
>For those of you innocent of the USA's sitcom heritage, McMann and Tate was
>the advertising agency that employed Darrin Stephens in "Bewitched."  For
>some reason in tonight's "Simpsons" episode the ad agency was named McMahon
>& Tate instead, using Ed and Jim's spelling.
>
>I don't think McMann of "Bewitched" ever had a first name given: he was never
>seen on camera nor spoken about much, and there was no indication I remember
>whether he was retired, deceased, or still active.  All executive decisions
>there rested in the hands of Larry Tate (played by the late David White).
>
Notice that inside the office, you can see part of a name on the door
behind Homer; the name is "Larry"...

-- 
                    ' ",      *
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                          '
From: dkrause@miami.acs.uci.edu (Doug Krause)
Subject: Phil Hartman
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 18 Nov 92 12:14:08 GMT
Distribution: usa


Does anybody have a list of guest credits for The Simpsons?  I'm
looking for all the times Phil Hartman has appeared.  Thanks.

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From: griffen@iesd.auc.dk (Thomas P. Graff)
Subject: Re: <None>
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University
	<BxvLAC.M2E@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:49:27



Just act like Itchy and Scratchy,then you will become a god/goddess
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From: nowikoam@ucbeh.san.uc.edu (Tony Nowikowski)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons.itchy-scratchy,alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: <None>
Date: 17 Nov 92 12:50:53 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1992Nov17.081759.44867@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, 2huxsting@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> Itchy and Scratchy are gods upon this earth, and I worship them as such.
> 
What form does your worship take, and does it involve semi-automatic weaponry?
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From: lamanna@acsu.buffalo.edu (Michael Lamanna)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons.itchy-scratchy
Subject: Re: <None>
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:39:48 GMT
Organization: UB

2huxsting@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

>Itchy and Scratchy are gods upon this earth, and I worship them as such.

	What does it take to be a god?












-- 
	"It is easier to get forgiven than permission"
						Michael Lamanna
						S.U.N.Y at Buffalo
lamanna@acsu.buffalo.edu
From: 2huxsting@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons.itchy-scratchy
Subject: <None>
Date: 17 Nov 92 08:17:58 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Itchy and Scratchy are gods upon this earth, and I worship them as such.
From: abw@natchez.bu.edu (Al Wesolowsky)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:14:46 GMT
Organization: Boston University

In article <1992Nov16.172606.7780@cs.mun.ca> craig@odie.cs.mun.ca (Craig Coffin) writes:
+>>I know there was a big thread here recently about an Ayn Rand reference
+>>on the Simpsons.  I don't want to get in a debate about her, but I did
+>>miss the episode, and I am intensely curious to know what happened.  If
+>>someone could post a synopsis of what happened during that scene, I
+>>would really appreciate it.

+>     In this episode, Marge was in a musical version of "Streetcar Named
+>Desire" 
[capsule deleted]
+>     I hope I got this right--- There may have been Atlas Shrugged 
+>references that I didn't pick up since I haven't read it yet.
+
+So, who's Ayn Rand?

NO! It was Mozart! Pay attention, damnit!

-- 
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abw@crsa.bu.edu   University   o  No bloody 'A', 'B', 'C', or 'D'." 
abw@acs.bu.edu                 o                          M. Scott
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From: fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie)
Subject: Moe's Tavern: The Phone Calls!
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:12:15 GMT


Does anyone have a difinitive list of the names that Bart has asked Moe to
page?  One of my favorites was Amanda Hugginkiss.  "Hey, guys, why can't I
find Amanda Hugginkiss?"  I died laughing!  If there is a list of these
humerous names, could someone please post them?  Thank you ever so much!
Have a Flaming Homer on me!

--

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From: moric00@DMI.USherb.CA (Chris)
Subject: Re: Les Simpson en francais!
Organization: Double My Income (DMI)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:00:44 GMT

Dans l'article 'Les Simpson en francais!' dude@losers.hacktic.nl ecrit:
->In article  <1992Oct14.194516.11331@newscan.canada.sun.com>, Andre Giroux - Sun Montreal SSS writes:
->
-> A> I don't know if there is an international agreement that the Simpsons  must
-> A> be translated in local language as opposed to international. I often read
-> A> posts  coming from fans worldwide. In Germany , someone mentionned
-> A> Bart calls Homer PAPA. etc...and the locality list goes on and on ...
-> A> 
-> A> it's kinda cute.But I can't get used to Bart saying "aille omerre" (wrong spelling
-> A> to emphasize the pronounciation)
->
-> Like I said before, the Simpsons started off in english in the Netherlands, 
-> but after a while the TV-station decided that the series would be dubbed.
-> In Dutch. I've only seen one show, and almost threw up. The Simpsons should
-> be shown in english, not in dutch, french, japanese or mauwi-wauwi.
-> 

I desagree here, I watch the show in english, and also in french (Quebec)
and let me tell you that the job they did translating it in french was
excellent. I think some episodes (parts of them) I have seen in both langage are funnier in the dubbed version. Of course, nothing beat the
original, but people who don't speak english have the right to be
entertain by the Simpsons also!

					Chris.

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From: flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal)
Subject: Re: The Simpsons in U.S. culture?
Date: 19 Nov 92 02:31:03 GMT

In alt.tv.simpsons, jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
>I remember George Bush said that a typical U.S. family is not like the
>Simpsons family - it seems it must be an important part of U.S.
>culture when the president of the country refers to it in speeches.  I
>don't think I've ever heard the Finnish president to refer to TV
>programs in his speeches.

The chief cause of this difference is that George Bush is a moron.
There have been a variety of occasions in which various top governmental people
in the U.S.A. have shown their inability to distinguish fantasy from reality.
But of course their foreign policy as well as their domestic policies are
evidence that they have this problem anyway.

Capable leaders don't spend their time making public statements about fictional
characters.

Actually, George Bush said that a typical American family SHOULDN'T be like the
Simpsons, which implies that he believes that it in fact is like the Simpsons.
Basically he feels that The Simpsons, by showing it like it is, is presenting
information harmful to American culture, which ideally should be founded upon
ignorance and superstition.

>I heard that the new president strongly supports police forces.

Woo,... to touch this one on the American-dominated net requires a little ol'
rot13.  I hereby only license non-Americans to decrypt the following two lines.
For any others to do so shall void all warranties, express or implied:

Zbfg crbcyr va gur H.F.N. ner fgebatyl, anl enovqyl va fhccbeg bs cbyvpr
sbeprf.  Vg'f n irel fpnel xvaq bs yngrag snfpvfz va gurve phygher.
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From: jeffy@cray.com (Jeffrey Neau)
Subject: Re: Springfield, Illinois
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:01:12 CST

In article <1992Nov23.175656.3828@athena.mit.edu> brian@mtl.mit.edu (brian foley) writes:
>In article <BxtxCG.H2F@rice.edu> starke@newsrice.edu (Sean Starke) writes:
>
>>|> >the worst city in America by Time magazine.
>>|> >In the latest U.S. News survey,(or Newsweek?), Springfield, IL
>>|> >was voted one of the worst places in the country to live 
>>|> 
>>|> >Also the Simpson's rival power plant is in Shelbyville, which
>>|> >is a small town outside of Springfield, Illinois.
>>|> 
>>|> >Does anyone have any more evidence?
>
>
>I hate to burst the bubble of all the 'Illinois theorists', but if you go
>
>back and watch the 'Mister Plow' episode you'll see that the Senator who
>
>is transfering ownership of the key to the city is none other than Ted
>
>"where's my pants" Kennedy. This clue along with the fact that Sprinfield,
>
>Massachusetts is also a pretty bad city, and that any cartoon character
>
>living in Massachusetts can also drive to both Detroit and Mexico in one
>
>day, there is no other conclusion to come to; Homer, Marge and family call 
>
>Massachusetts home.
>
>
>signed
>
>Brian 'further fodder for the fire' Foley

I didn't realize there were mountains and deep gorges in Massachusetts.
Maybe, just maybe, the city is fictional and doesn't exist.


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From: bwatson@nyx.cs.du.edu (bruce watson)
Subject: [9F07] Mr. Plow DYNs
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From: dhallora@darwin.cc.nd.edu (Dave Halloran)
Subject: Re: used car (U2?)
Followup-To: alt.tv.simpsons
Organization: U. of Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:03:52 GMT

In article <By55Az.48F@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>,
dmorton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Daniel Morton) wrote:
> 
> 
> The used car that Homer was looking at in Mr. Plow looked suspiciously
> like the eastern-block(?) car that the rock band U2 used in their music
> video for the song "The Fly". This seems even more likely because of the
> fly in the middle of the steering wheel and on the hood ornament if I
> remember correctly. Anyone agree?
> -- 
> "Awright, let's forget the bullshit and get on with the so-called art"
>                       --  Charles Bukowski  --  

That was an East German "Trabbie" (Trabant) if I ever saw one.  When the
Berlin wall came down, they caused countless accidents on the Autobahn. 
They only make 26 horsepower.
-Dave
From: news@ossi.com (OSSI Newsstand)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: In the Navy (Village P)
Date: 23 Nov 1992 17:33:16 -0800
Organization: Open Systems Solutions Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: cheops.ossi.com

syracurg@lp.musc.edu writes:


>     Was The Village People really a "gay (male) disco band", or was
>   that just a part of their act.  I never knew that.
>   mjs


Yes they are.  The village people still perform from time to time.

Long live the village people!
From: Jym Dyer <jym@mica.berkeley.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Steamboat Itchy
Date: 20 Nov 1992 00:33:48 GMT
Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
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In-reply-to: rcarter@nyx.cs.du.edu's message of 4 Nov 92 07:02:18 GMT

>> say something about Steamboat Itchy, one of the deadliest
>> parodies of a Disney cartoon ever. . . . probably close
>> enough to a copyright violation for a lawsuit.
> I would guess that `Steamboat Willy' (the original Disney/M.
> Mouse cartoon) is so old that it is in public domain . . .

=\= Perhaps I can shed some light on this . . .

=\= The Mickey Mouse animated shorts spun off a newspaper strip.
The newspaper strip is indeed old enough that it has fallen into
the public domain, so it would follow that "Steamboat Willy" is
also old enough for its copyright to have expired.

=\= The likeness of Mickey Mouse, however, is trademarked, and
trademarks last for All Eternity (or something close to it).
Disney has actually used this to keep people from reprinting
the public domain comic strips.

=\= I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me that the consequence of
this state of affairs is that it would be totally legal to copy,
or even use, the actual scenes from "Steamboat Willy" as long
as you didn't show Mickey's trademarked head.
Replacing it with Itchy's head should suffice.            .-.  .-.
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