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From: bobn@hawkwind.central.Sun.COM (Bob Netherton)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Windsong/Raw Fruit discs (was Friday Rock Show)
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:08:13 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Bob.Netherton@dallas.Central.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: hawkwind.central.sun.com

In article <1992Aug7.123006.4784@muppet.bt.co.uk>, bart@muppet.bt.co.uk (Tim) writes:

|> BBC puts out quite a few CDs associated with the FRS; most notably must be the
|> cool Hawkwind Concert ( Reading 86 ) and I've seen one of Diamond Head in 
|> concert too.

re: The Windsong BBC discs and the Raw Fruit discs, does anybody have a
list of those floating about ?  I have only seen the one Raw Fruit
(Hawkwind) but have a ton of the Windsong (Hawkwind, UFO, Wishbone Ash,
Robin Trower).  Just wondering what else is out there ??????

-- 
Bob Netherton                        | You see the signs, they're always there
Sun Microsystems                     | But you know you never care
Dallas, Tx                           | You are always looking for another reason
bob.netherton@central.Sun.COM        | ==== Hawkwind, Paradox
From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: GNR
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 15:27:18 EDT
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

<32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:

> I dont know where you saw Metallica but when I saw them they
> played 2 and a half hours tops, and part of this time was
> spent woth James playing drums.  Im glad I didn't pay
> to see this show or I would have been pissed.  James
> playing drums???????
 
I saw them in Buffalo, and it was a typical show (friends in New York, 
Philadelphia, and Boston had similar tales). Maybe they just don't like
Michigan.
 
By the way, Doc, Suaron's coming back soon. Picked out a hiding spot? 
 
--Don
From: asj4j@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (JONAX)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: GnR <Missing Songs?>
Date: 23 Aug 92 13:12:24 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia


   Here's a little mind boggler that I ran into whilst I was picking my
nose and just thinking about GnR in general...



    I know that GNR went into the remixing studio with 46 different songs,
and only 30 appeared on Use Your Illusions, also 6 were from the (SOMEDAY!)
upcoming Cover EP - songs that they always wanted to cover (although I haven't
heard what will become of it with the leaving of IZZY)  These songs are:
                  I Don't Care About You  (by Fear)
                  Attitude         (by the Misfits)
                  Ain't It Fun     (with Michael Monroe)(by the Dead Boys)
                  Black LEather    (Sex Pistols)
                  Down on the Farm (UK Subs) (same song played at Farm Aid)
                  New Rose         (the Damned)

Ok.  thats 36 songs. Add that to the 5 unreleased on the demos, from the tape
listed below....(songs with *)

     In the Studio  1990-91 Demos (on CD)

     Side A:                           Side B:
     1. The Garden                      1. Heartbreak Hotel (Instrumental
     2. Don't Cry                       2. Move to the City (acousic live
     3. Yesterdaze                         with cool adlib intro by the
    *4. Sentimental Movie (NEW)            entire band.)
     5. Bad Obsession                  *3. Too Much Too Soon (NEW)
    *6. Crash Diet (NEW)               *4. Just Another Sunday (NEW)
     7. Anything Goes ( Alternate lyr.) 5. Welcome to the Jungle
    *8. Bring It Back Home (NEW)
     9. Back Off Bitch

       Note: all songs have Axl and Slash/Izzy doing them with a
             drum machine in the background. Unless otherwise noted.


    Now that makes 41 songs.
    WHERE ARE THE OTHER FIVE?

  The original rumor was that they were going to release albums like this.
   UYI 1+2 in the summer.
   Six months later, the cover EP.
   Then (the big shocker) another full length album that was ALREADY RECORDED.

I assume that the 5 demos and the missing five make up this album.  I remember
one quote.  "It may be that Guns N' Roses have already recorded their last
record"   refering to breakup, death by drugs, etc.  But this was a quote 
from quite a while back....

Anybody have any ideas?

BTW...if anybody would be interested in a copy of the IN THE STUDIO tape
I could send you one for a couple of bucks...

						Jumping Jack JonaX
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: gse9k@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Scott Evans)
Subject: Re: T-Ride
Reply-To: thrash@virginia.edu (Scott Evans)
Organization: or lack thereof
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:37:08 GMT

Sara Writes:
>     The "saccharine-coated-sounding harmonies" which were
>previously criticized as sounding fake, are in fact not.  Guitarist
>Jeff Tyson and drummer Eric Valentine pulled them off perfectly on
>stage, without the aid of studio tricks.  (That's more than i can
>say for many bands.)  Whether or not you like the harmonies is a
>matter of personal preference.  

That was me criticizing...glad to hear that they *can* sing them.  
I think you know what I meant by "sounding fake", though...probably
just a result of massive overdubbing.  On the flip side, King's X
harmonies are amazing, but they also sound very *real* to me, not
processed or synthetic.  

The harmonies on both Saigon Kick albums, as I mentioned, also sound
kinda processed to me, and you can't help wonder "did he sing those?"
Ah well.  Thanks, Sara.

As for T-Ride's overall sound, it definitely is addicting.  I found
myself saying "hmmm, too bad this isn't more so-and-so" but deciding
I liked it the way it is, the more I listened.  Good stuff.


s
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: gse9k@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Scott Evans)
Subject: Re: Dream Theater concert dates?
Reply-To: thrash@virginia.edu (Scott Evans)
Organization: or lack thereof
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:57:51 GMT


>	Does anyone have a list of Dream Theater concert dates or information
>on whether they plan to tour at all?  Thanks 


Well, last I heard they were supposed to be opening for Iron Maiden
in NYC a few weeks ago...it was actually rumored that they were 
supposed to do the whole tour with Maiden too.  But I haven't 
heard anything further.  If anyone knows more, please post it!


s
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Dream Theater concert dates?
Organization: none
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 21:53:23 GMT

In article <1992Aug22.020736.4533@njitgw.njit.edu> dcg5662@hertz.njit.edu (Dave Grabowski (KxiK)) writes:
>
>  Well, they certainly DID open for Maiden when I saw them. Dream
>Theater wasn't anything special though. Although the musicians were very
>talented, the music itself just didn't give many people the kind of
>energy that Maiden did.. (unless it was just that we were all just too
>anxious for Maiden to come on.. damn, they were _GOOD_!)
>
>-Dave
>-- 
>----------------------------------------------
>Kappa Xi Kappa - Over and Above!
>-----------------------------------------------
Nice to hear that Maiden was awesome somewhere else. They were Astounding
at the ST. Paul civic center. Easily wiped the floor with a very sedate 
Testament. <I have seen Testament 4 times. This wasn't even Speedmetal>

Every time I go into a store when I have money, they don't have the 
Dream Theatre album, but they do if I come in broke. One of these days...

					--Judex--
From: dcg5662@hertz.njit.edu (Dave Grabowski (KxiK))
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Re: Dream Theater concert dates?
Date: 22 Aug 92 02:07:36 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.


  Well, they certainly DID open for Maiden when I saw them. Dream
Theater wasn't anything special though. Although the musicians were very
talented, the music itself just didn't give many people the kind of
energy that Maiden did.. (unless it was just that we were all just too
anxious for Maiden to come on.. damn, they were _GOOD_!)

-Dave
-- 
----------------------------------------------
Kappa Xi Kappa - Over and Above!
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: al183@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sara Kathryn DeLong)
Subject: T-Ride
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 00:38:38 GMT


     I've been wanting to say something about the band T-Ride for
awhile but never got around to it, then noticed the previous posts. 
     T-Ride is definitely a progressive-metal band.  I heard them
first on a friend's college radio show and was instantly hooked. 
The music is hard and fast, blending the best elements of main-
stream and metal to create an intense, yet up-beat sound.  
     The "saccharine-coated-sounding harmonies" which were
previously criticized as sounding fake, are in fact not.  Guitarist
Jeff Tyson and drummer Eric Valentine pulled them off perfectly on
stage, without the aid of studio tricks.  (That's more than i can
say for many bands.)  Whether or not you like the harmonies is a
matter of personal preference.  Really the first thing that struck
me as maybe too"poppish" were the drum tracks -- most songs on the
album are supported by this techno-type beat, like something
belonging more in dance music.  But after I listened to the album
more, that element became one of the things that endeared me to
T-Ride.  The drum tracks (done acousticly I might add) are what
both binds the music together and keeps it going.  And if people
get up and dance while headbanging, so what?  I'm glad to see a
metal band that experimental.
     My favorite tracks are (Rock and Roll) "Zombies From Hell,"
(the title basicly says it all,) and "Backdoor Romeo," a warning to
all men not treating their girl right.  But other good ones include
"Ride," the band's theme song maybe?, "Hit Squad," "Luxury Cruise,"
the harmonies are great on this one, and "You And Your Friend,"
(you guess what its about!).     
     One last thing.  (As if this post isn't long enough!)  I
caught T-Ride opening up for Shotgun Messiah here in Cleveland (I
went just to see T-Ride) and they were fabulous.  As I said, they
pulled off everything on stage that you hear on the album, although
Dan Arlie's vocals seemed a little too soft, but i'm hoping that
was just a technical problem.  Before the show and friend and I
recognized guitarist Jeff Tyson sitting at the bar, so we went up
and talked to him.  Not only was he happy to chat for a moment and
sign an autograph or two, he totally ditched the blond sitting next
to him!  Any band member that chooses fans over..well, you know
what...ranks very high on my list.  

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From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive,alt.music.progressive,alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.hard
Subject: DIGEST: Queensryche ("Screaming in Digital")
Summary: If you don't like advertisements, don't read this.
Keywords: Blatant Plug for New Readers [Freshpersons]
Date: 23 Aug 92 23:07:03 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Net Digest


	* Things to do if you're a Queensryche fan * 

* Beware of night, for we all know he's loose again.
* Ride to a place beyond our time, reach for the edges of your mind.
* Throw down the chains of oppression that bind you.	   
* Please take my hand, don't be afraid.
* Please don't keep me from dreaming.
* You might see the nation's eyes, don't hide ... it's you.  
* Just watch the television, yeah, you'll see there's something going on.
* Make something of your life boy, let me into your mind.
* Speak the word.
* Tip the power balance and tear down their crown.
* Stop the madness.
* Wipe away the teardrop from your eye.
* Read between the lines, criticize the words they're selling.
* Think for yourself and feel the walls become sand beneath your feet.
* Read "Screaming in Digital" every Monday, for your weekly Queensryche-fix.

 -subscriptions : queensryche-request@pilot.njin.net
 -submissions   : queensryche@pilot.njin.net
 -administration: queensryche-owner@pilot.njin.net 
-- 

     Freedom belongs to only those without video screens for eyes and mouth.
		- Queensryche
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: maroosma@cs.ruu.nl (Martijn van Roosmalen)
Subject: Guns n' Roses Lies.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 10:28:22 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science


No,I don't mean that GnR lie.

I only got one question: Has somebody the lyrics of GnR Lies?
I only got the lyrics of 'You're crazy.'.

Please help me.

Thanks.

-- 
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Martijn A. van Roosmalen (maroosma@praxis.cs.ruu.nl)
Department of Computer Science,Department of Artificial Intelligence.
Utrecht University. The Netherlands.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: woolf@alc.com (Bobby Woolf)
Subject: Metallica/GN'R in Oakland, CA has been rescheduled
Reply-To: woolf@alc.com
Organization: Ascent Logic Corporation, Inc.
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 01:03:03 GMT

The Oakland Stadium Day on the Green show featuring Metallica, Guns N'
Roses, and Faith No More which had been scheduled for Aug 20th has been
rescheduled.  The new date is Sept 24 (a Thursday).  Tickets for the
old date will be honored.  Refunds are available if you return your
tickets to the place of purchase by Sept 17th.

This info is available by calling 1-998-BASS.

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    Bobby Woolf                             Ascent Logic Corp.
    woolf@alc.com                           San Jose, CA
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From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Tesla
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 00:04:21 EDT
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

<32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:

> In article <1992Aug19.175834.1@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg>, bj7008958@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
> says:
> >
> >Hey anybody got the Five Man Accoustical Jam by Tesla. It's really cool. I a
> >not much of a Tesla fan though. I think they are the only metal band that ha
> >ever released an accoustical album. They deliver the songs well without
> >electric backing, still packs the energy. Great to sing along with too.
> 
> GNR's "LIES" was basically acoustic, one side anyway.
> They are the first band I can think of that released
> and "acoustic" tape.  After that it really populor.
> 
Led Zeppelin III was all acoustic on side 2. Numerous folk bands have done
nothing but acoustic albums. GNR Lies was no fantastic innovation; it just
helped bring acoustic rock back into the mainstream.
 
To think, I'm giving Axl Rose credit for something!
 
--Don
From: mjjj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Wishes for Axl
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:57:37 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Cornell University

In article <1992Aug13.015133.762@samba.oit.unc.edu>,
Phil.Powell@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Phil Powell) writes: 
> 
> Will he be wearing his cool new t-shirts? What a witness he'd be in jail!
> 
> Phil

Excellent question!  Do you suppose he'd wouldn't be raped if he had a big
Jesus t-shirt on?  I'm not so sure how he'd do with his "I'm really a lesbian"
t-shirt on though.  :)

Malevor


> 
> --
>    The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
>      North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
>         Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
>            internet:  bbs.oit.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80

P.S.  Does the school make everyone have that as their sig file?

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: adg2@quads.uchicago.edu (andrew david gross)
Subject: Re: Body Count
Reply-To: adg2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:25:34 GMT

I'm still new at this posting stuff so I'm not sure if I managed to include
the reply to my Body Count post.

Au contraire. I do have a sense of humor. I think Body Count is a hilarious
album. It's like one of those late-night movies on USA Network. It's so
bad it's funny. I cannot imagine Ice-T invested as much humor into this album
as I receive from it.

As for it rocking...? Body Count hardly excites my adreniline[sp?]
-- 
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Andrew David Gross                 "For many are called, but few are chosen."
agd2@midway.uchicago.edu                  - Matthew 22:14
From: graeme@abekrd.co.uk (Graeme Griffiths)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Tesla
Date: 21 Aug 92 10:44:02 GMT
Organization: Abekas Video Systems, Reading, UK.

In <1992Aug20.043253.8341@news.stolaf.edu> cecka@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Way Cool Jr.) writes:

>In article <1992Aug19.175834.1@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg> bj7008958@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg writes:
>>Hey anybody got the Five Man Accoustical Jam by Tesla. It's really cool. I am
>>not much of a Tesla fan though. I think they are the only metal band that has
>>ever released an accoustical album. They deliver the songs well without
>>electric backing, still packs the energy. Great to sing along with too.

>No, nor do I want it.  I have their three *real* albums, but don't care much
>about FIVE MAN.  It only contains about 4 or 5 "new" songs, and can't possibly
>compare with the electric versions.  And I'm not the only one who feels this
>way.  At the Tesla/Firehouse concert a few weeks ago, Jeff Keith said that
>they *accidently* made FIVE MAN, before they play a few accoustical songs.
>My friend and I laughed at that comment for a long time.

	The way I heard it, the recording was NOT an accident. They just got
some accoustics out at a party and played some old tunes they all knew
(Beatles, Stones etc) and someone said "You should take that show on the
road, show a different side to Tesla" so they did. Recording one of the
shows was done just as a piece of Tesla history but turned out so good
that they released it as an album.
	I have all four Tesla albums and wouldn't like to choose between any
of them but I suggest that if you ever forget what electric guitar can
sound like listen to 'Paradise' off "Five man..." where Frank repeats the
solo he's just played on an accoustic but this time using his electric.
The result is, to me, a very powerful reminder of the god that is electric
guitar.

>Not a Tesla fan??!  You're crazy, right?  They're an awesome band, and they
>are even better live.

Amen to that.
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|Abekas Video Systems,12 Portman Rd,|    and there's nothing you say,        |
|Reading,Berks,ENGLAND.             |      that I want to hear....."         |
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From: d90-two@dront.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer)
Subject: Mot|rhead and more
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:08:14 GMT

I heard an interview with Mickey Dee yesterday and he said that

- He is a permanent member of Mot|rhead, and nothing else.

- WWIII does not exist any longer, but Mickey and Jimmy Bain are still
  thinking about doing something together.

- The song "Hellraiser" (Mot|rheads version) will be on the soundtrack
  to _Hellraiser n_. Mot|rhead originally recorded this song for the
  soundtrack only, but then someone thought that it should be on the
  album too.

- "Hellraiser" is not only on the album, it will also be the first single
  and there is a video made for it too!

- Mot|rhead had problems with Philthy for quite a long time before
  he finally left again: Mickey was actually asked to replace him already
  for the recording of "1916", but he was still busy with Dokken then.

- Mot|rhead will soon tour the US with Ozzy (expect "I'm No Nice Guy")
  and later probably with Black Sabbath(!). Later they will come to
  Europe (tour company unknown) and hit for example Sweden sometime
  around the 20th of November. Traditional final gig on Hammersmith
  around Xmas.


ObDoom: Solitude Aeturnus will probably come to Sweden and play here
with Stillborn and Count Raven. Hurra! Deities are favourable.

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From: dcutter@oregon.uoregon.edu (dann cutter)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Help: seattle show tomarrow???
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:57:31 GMT
Organization: Stellar Enterprises

Is the fucking Metallica Guns show canceled postponed or what for the 18th.
I have tickets and am in a cultural backass place which has almost no way
to check these things out. Please rsvp.

_______________________________________________________________
Dann Cutter  Stellar Enterprises* /
dcutter@oregon.uoregon.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: ddn@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.d.nason)
Subject: Re: GnR's One in a Million
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:28:48 GMT

In article <17AUG199213354287@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov> bimson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (GREG) writes:
>As far as I can recall, the last time I looked up the word nigger it 
>mentioned as the definition "An ignorant person".  Axl himself 
>apologized and defended the song, and many people, including blacks, 
>understood that the remark in the song was to bash ignorant people, 
>not *all* black people just those and other races that are ignorant.
>
>Greg

Well I haven't looked the word up, but I know how it's used in this
society, and I have to say that's about the poorest excuse for using
the word that I've ever heard.  If he wants to use the word - fine,
I'll support anybody's right to use any word they want to.  However,
I find the word offensive and I find this justification for using it
equally offensive.

david
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen)
Subject: Re: Mot|rhead and more like Black Sabbath
Organization: Finnish Academic and Research Network, FUNET
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 20:48:36 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.192332.9274@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> stocker@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (William Stocker) writes:
>>Since you're from Sweden and you posted an article to a.rnr.m I
>>decided to ask if you know any Black Sabbath dates in Sweden? I'd
>>probably come over there to see them, since they cancelled their
>>Finland gig.
>>
>Now that's what I call a fan!
>
And I'm going to go to see them in Edinburgh, United Kingdom too..

(I already have a ticket to there:-)

--
  Tapio Keihanen  \ rare DIO records wanted /    Holy Father - Holy Ghost
tapio@nic.funet.fi  \                     /  Who's the one who hurts you most?
Organization: Junior, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA