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From: boh@fraser.sfu.ca (Changhao Boh)
Subject: Re: Warning: possible incompatibility - GUS and OS/2 2.0
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:13:13 GMT

ylam@fraser.sfu.ca (Yau Ha Elina Lam) writes:

>   I am not scaring you off from buying the Ultrasound.  It works wonderfully
>under DOS.  But if you are running os/2 and want to buy the GUS, I will 
>suggest that you wait till we sort this out first...

Just another day in the life of us OS/2 2.0 users... Now I really know what it  feels like to run an OS without appropriate drivers...

Didn't I heard that Gravis is comming out with an OS/2 driver ?  It really would be nice if Gravis could come out with a virtualised device driver that works inboth OS/2 and OS/2's DOS emmulation.  I mean, load some VGUSSBO.SYS in OS/2's 
config.sys and all sessions gets to play with the GUS.  A virtualise driver
should offer better capabilities then a DOS device driver...

>   Just now I was experimenting with the GUS under os/2.  My setup (which is
>the default setting: a220, i11, DMA channel 7, and midi interrupt 5) works
>fine under DOS.  I also believe that I don't have an interrupt conflict
>(which os/2 won't tolerate).  My printer is on IRQ7, and my mouse on IRQ2,
>so IRQ5 and IRQ11 should be free.

Nothing seems to be wrong here.  But try the latest COMM drivers with
the hardware direct to port setting, works for some people getting
the old sound blaster to work under OS/2.

>   Now trying to run the SBOS (soundblaster emulation, TSR).  It loads fine,
>even with the usual voice output of a man saying "sbos installed".  But when
>trying to play ROL files (adlib files) using SOUND.COM and PLAYROL.COM, no
>music was heard.  I tried to run another Sound Blaster compatible midi
>sequencer (which worked fine under DOS).  It wouldn't even find the 
>soundcard.  SBOS seemed to load fine, but other softwares couldn't find it.

Did you try to run the whole thing in a bootable DOS session ? I mean create
a DOS boot image etc... Usually solves all the device driver snafus...

>   Next came the worst nightmare...  When I tried running the MIDIDEMO that
>comes with the ultrasound, I got a TRAP 0 from os/2 and the machine is
>hung completely.  Similarly, the SETUP utility of the GUS hung up the 
>machine solidly, without even giving the TRAP 0.  I wonder if this has
>anything to do with how the GUS uses its on-board memory...
>   I hope it's just my mistake in setup.  Maybe some of you os/2 gurus out
>there can make it work.  But it will be sad if the two pieces of technical
>marvel cannot work together.

>Timothy

Perhaps try HARDWARE_TIMER = ON in your DOS setting.  These drivers do rely
pretty much on the hardware timer port, I'm sure you already knew..

Well, good luck and good health.

Changhao.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: thail@seas.gwu.edu (Samuel R. Posten)
Subject: Re: sb16=roland!!
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 04:02:08 GMT

no flames intended, but i seriously doubt this.  I talked to aa sales rep
a week ago and got the rundown on features and she never mentioned this. 
Also it would have been advertised in the add in this months computer
mags. was there any mention there?  I haven't read them yet.  We'll see...
Sam
From: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: GUS will be discontinued !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:40:44 GMT
Reply-To: ken@austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
Organization: IBM Austin, TX


 

#About all this "new technology" and the alleged GUS Professional...
#If we all wait for "newer" and "better" technology, none of us would ever
#get anything, and we would always be waiting for something better!
#Take it from me, I know.
#I am a keyboard player, who spent YEARS waiting for synthesizer technology
#to get better.  I finally decided that the Yamaha SY77 is good enough for me.
#Sure, there were better things at the time, and there are definately better
#synths out right now.  But I got my keyboard 2 years ago, and have been
#enjoying it during that time, rather than waiting for something better.


I had a very similar discussion with a friend of mine who, amazingly,
is a big synth user. He said, "Is it really worth agonizing over what
may come out? It could be vapor-ware, or never be released. Why not
go ahead and buy something that meets your needs and enjoy until such
time as the next "big thing" comes out. You'll have a card to use until
then and if you want to upgrade, go for it."

I have concluded that it is not worth losing sleep over. Look at it
this way - people have been screaming for the GUS. How many folks
called (*repeatedly* called) Gravis and bugged them? "When's it
gonna come out? Is it done yet?" Do you want to do that for another
X months for the next big thing?

I don't. I ordered my GUS today. If they come out with a Pro that does
everything but dishes, good for them - I may upgrade. But I've waited
for the GUS and now that it's almost here I'll get it and enjoy it
until I need something more. But I refuse to cry about it. Of course
there's always a better gadget just around the bend! Look at the recent
advances in megabits on chips! I don't know of a 16 megabit chip in
a computer now, but they're already saying they've blown that away
by some factor. Would you wait X years for, say, a 64 megabit chip
when you could buy a 16 and use it now? That's crazy.

Besides, nobody is gonna skip the sale of a 16 mb chip just because
there's a 64 mb chip a few years away. You can't do R&D all the time -
you have to sell the stuff or you go broke. No marketer in their right
mind would do that.

So if you feel like you can wait X months/years til the next big thing
comes out, be my guest. But it's not worth the agony. Life is short -
don't sweat the little shit.


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From: terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter) 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: OS/2 AND SOUNDCARDS...WHI
Date: 13 Oct 92 03:30:00 GMT
Reply-To: terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Outland BBS-UUCP

PAS 16 will run under os/2 soon, or actually now.  I think mediavision
has released the os/2 drivers.
                          
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From: sl@wimsey.bc.ca (Stuart Lynne)
Subject: Re: Gravis Ultrasound (big shocker there!)
Organization: BC News and Mail
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:44:59 GMT

In article <9210072216.AA04472@thor.tjhsst.edu> cmetz@thor.tjhsst.edu (Craig Metz) writes:
>
>	Two big questions that set with me about the GUS:
>
>	1. What is Gravis's number (800 preferred)? I want to ask some
>		questions that need to be answered from the horse's mouth.

	800-663-8558	ask for chris


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: anuj@fwi.uva.nl (Anuj Dev)
Subject: PAS16 harddisk errors?
Summary: anyone experienced harddisk errors with the PAS16?
Keywords: PAS16
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:02:06 GMT

I use the standard IRQ and DMA setting, the setting the card ships with, but have been getting disk errors lately. Could this be that my mainboard (opti 486/33) doesn't allow for DMA sharing or am I overseeing something. btw, The harddisk controller is a standard "super" IDE controller with 2S&1P.

If you know, mail me.

anuj@carol.fwi.uva.nl

 
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From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
Subject: Re: sb16=roland!!
Originator: smintz@alamo
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:21:07 GMT


I just reported the conversation, not analize is...if you want more info, ask
dave at creative lab Ts...ok?
Stephen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
Subject: Re: About the Gravis Ultrasound
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 04:20:33 GMT

In article <92287.144941ACPS7299@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> <ACPS7299@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> writes:
>Correct me if I'm wrong here (and I'm sure you will), but wouldn't the
>Ultrasound be just perfect for playing MOD files? From what I've read
>here, the GUS uses "wavetable synthesis", which uses samples of
>instruments to create the sounds. Sounds just like a MOD to me.
>So, if this is true, how is it done? I assume you would "download" the
>samples to the GUS. I've heard it has 32 sample entries (in mono), so
>thats great, MOD's have either 16 or 31 instrument samples. Then I guess
>you'd just "tell" GUS to play which samples at which pitch. Anyone
>have a clue how this might be done? Or is it maybe too early to be asking
>these questions?

The card doesn't have 32 sample entries... instead, it has 32 mono channels
or 16 stereo, and the number of sample entries can be as great as memory
allows.  Or so I've been told.

Phat.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: jdz1@Ra.MsState.Edu (John D. Zitterkopf)
Subject: Re: Gravis Ultrasound - Comments?
Summary: Forwarded from comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Keywords: sound
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:17:21 GMT

In article <Bvz9o5.4L3@news.iastate.edu> bryanw@iastate.edu (Bryan J Welch) writes:
>I saw that the Gravis Ultrasound was for sale last week.  Could someone
>who just got one give some comments?  Is it all it was advertised to be?
>
>thanks,
>Bryan Welch
>
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From: dhaigh@actrix.gen.nz (David Haigh)
Subject: Re: Soundblaster 2.0 and Space Q 1 (VGA)
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 06:11:54 GMT

Solution:

Toggle the speed of your machine down for startup. Then once it has
initialised the sb, toggle back up. After that, it should work fine.

Shame they haven't fixed Red Baron - I still losed the digitised
channel on my 486/33 w SBPRO/2.

On an unrelated topic: I have been evaluating an SBPRO/2 in a
486/50. Some programs loose one of the channels!!! However, it would
appear that a SB/2 works fine. ????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comments anyone???

Dave.
From: mfleig@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mark W. Fleig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: THE GRAVIS ULTRASOUND
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:21:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.Bw2Fz6.I6z
Organization: Indiana University

In article <0HRksB3w165w@billapc.UUCP> baustin@billapc.UUCP (Bill Austin) writes:
>So, despite any glowing reviews I might read (not just here, but any
>other place).  If I didn't see quite a few software houses (of
>interest) supporting the card.. why buy it?

Though I'm still waiting for it to show up on my doorstep, a good many
people did as I and ordered their card through Electronic Arts, who
have decided to give this thing major backing. So for the most part, 
we can at least expect support from their software houses, including
the mewly acquired Origin. (Is this a proper assumption? How much
influence does EA have over their companies?)

Looking back on the Roland MT-32, one of the first companies to
support it fully was Sierra, (Remember Silpheed. Great Orch. Hit for
the title screen. :) and a good many companies followed. Granted there
was little else to choose from back then, soundcard-wise. But also
consider the expense of the MT-32. Developers obviously decided the
work to integrate support for the module was worth targeting the
possible small Roland community.

-mark

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From: rhogg@cs.strath.ac.uk (Richard J J Hogg CS92)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Thunderboard drivers for win3.1
Date: 12 Oct 92 10:59:28 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Strathclyde, Glasgow, UK

Could anyone post here or email me the address of any sites where I could get a copy of the
driver...

	Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: GUS comments
From: ejohnson@zeus.calpoly.edu (I seem to be a verb)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1992 18:12:15 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly State Univ,CSC Dept,San Luis Obispo,CA 93407
Keywords: GUS
Summary: Does GUS emulate SB-Pro?


Could one of you ever-so-popular (and damn lucky) GUS owners tell
me if it comes with SB-Pro emulation?  I've read a few threads about
SB-Pro emulation being added.  Please post replies.

Thanks,

Erik

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From: jdalin@devildog.att.com (Jimmy Dalin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: MS Sound Card vs. Others
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:11:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: devildog.1992Oct8.201126.26746
Organization: AT&T IMS - Piscataway, NJ (USA)

Microsoft recently announced a sound card (the name of which escapes me at
the moment), which seems to intended primarily for business use.  That is,
it seems aimed at business people who wish to record and play back sound
bites and insert them into email and other documents.

Does anyone know how this card's features compare with some of the others on
the market (PAS 16, GUS, etc)?  Does the PAS 16, GUS, etc. have the ability
to do what the Microsoft card does?  Thanks.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,rec.music.synth
From: aam6@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Amin A Mohamad)
Subject: **WANTED** : A Soundblaster card
Reply-To: aam6@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Amin A Mohamad)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 22:48:22 GMT

Please make offer to aam6@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
 thanks

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From: colleyck@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Buckweat)
Subject: Cakewalk 4.0 demo (I can't find it...)
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 02:35:37 GMT

Does anyone know what the name of the Cakewalk 4.0 demo is?

I can't find it anywhere through 'archie'..

Also, does it require MS Windows?

Thanks in advance!

colleyck@ucunix.san.uc.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN)
Subject: Re: GUS: Latest EA shipping info.
Organization: Universite de Moncton
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:49:06 GMT

In article <Bw6Cnn.8Kv@ais.org> impster@ais.org (Charles Budensiek) writes:
>From: impster@ais.org (Charles Budensiek)
>Subject: GUS: Latest EA shipping info.
>Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:59:45 GMT

>I called Electronic Arts today <Oct. 15th> and was told that they shoudl be
>shipping the GUS to me this Monday. Then we'll know just how bad this thing
>performs on a 16 MHz 80286 with 1 meg of memory.. :)


I have a 16Mhz 286 with 1 meg of memory.  Some games are a little bit 
slower.  Yes, just a little bit on my computer.  You'll love the board.  
Trust me.  :)

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From: viny@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (vinay pulim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Disney Sound Source Driver for Windows 3.1
Keywords: sound source
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:59:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: ut-emx.81703
Reply-To: viny@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (vinay pulim)
Organization: U.T. Physics Dept.

A while back, someone posted a message about having a Disney Sound Source 
driver for Windows.  I built a simple D/A converter that plugs into the
parallel 
port and since its almost compatible with the Disney Sound Source it
should work
with the driver. Can you tell me where I could get a copy of it?
From: ch730@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Quill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Demos?????????????
Date: 17 Oct 1992 02:48:09 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Is there any good anon ftp sites which have good sound demos?  I don't care for
game demos really.  It's difficult to find any good sites.  Most good demos seem to come out of Europe so perhaps there is a decent site there?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: norm@bnr.ca (Norm MacNeil)
Subject: GUS FAQ Request
Originator: norm@bcrks122
Reply-To: norm@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:18:39 GMT


Since there seems to be a few GUS owners already, perhaps it would be nice if "we"
(i.e., netters) started a FAQ on GUS including such things as what it does (since I
seem to see the same preliminary questions about twice a day), what it can emulate
(e.g., SB), and what programs have "problems" with the GUS and (more importantly),
what to do to work around the problem.

For example, I seem to remember someone saying that JetFighter II doesn't work with
GUS.  Is it true?  Has someone found a workaround?

It would be nice also to have the FAQ on an anonymous FTP site so people can download
it easily as well.

Now all youse guys (& gals) out there just about to "follow-up" on this and say "Why
don't you start it?"... <<< I don't have a GUS yet >>> :-(  so I don't have first-hand
knowledge and secondly, I seem to see much more informed persons replying on the net.

Any takers then?

  Norm.

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From: <ACPS7299@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: About the Gravis Ultrasound

Correct me if I'm wrong here (and I'm sure you will), but wouldn't the
Ultrasound be just perfect for playing MOD files? From what I've read
here, the GUS uses "wavetable synthesis", which uses samples of
instruments to create the sounds. Sounds just like a MOD to me.
So, if this is true, how is it done? I assume you would "download" the
samples to the GUS. I've heard it has 32 sample entries (in mono), so
thats great, MOD's have either 16 or 31 instrument samples. Then I guess
you'd just "tell" GUS to play which samples at which pitch. Anyone
have a clue how this might be done? Or is it maybe too early to be asking
these questions?

BTW, I bought a SBPro a while ago, and I'm loving it to death. But this
Ultrasound looks really good, except for the Adlib/SB compatability.
(From what I've heard, its none too good. Not really Gravis's fault,
trying to make their card which works completely differently from the
others compatable.) So, does anyone know if the GUS and Adlib/SB/PRO
could co-exist? Might be the perfect solution, if a bit expensive, buying
both cards.

            Just a thought.

                     <Eric> - ACPS7299@RYEVM.RYERSON.CA
From: tswanson@misvax.mis.arizona.edu (QUIS CUSTODIET IPSOS CUSTODES.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Ultrasound: Bad News from Elec. Arts  ;)
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:45:00 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona MIS Department
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Bvqsqs.KLJ@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, mfleig@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mark W. Fleig) writes...
>Well, I got off the phone this afternoon with the fine folks at EA,
>and my worst fears were confirmed. Shipping of the Ultrasound to
>those who ordered will begin "within a few days." Essentially, we
>may have our boards as early as next monday, possibly even the
>weekend. 
> 
>Why oh why should I be tested so.

I agree.  Terrible news.  I was so used to waiting that I may go into Post
Gravis Arrival Shock Syndrome ;) ;) ;)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: seibert@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Raymond Seibert)
Subject: Re: .MOD question
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:22:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.205846.26649@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> johnson@cps.msu.edu (Graham K. Johnson) writes:
>
>You can use most MOD editors (i.e. Modedit 2.0) to save the individual
>samples to their own files.  You'll then need to get a sound file
>editor (i.e. Scoptrax) to convert the file from Amiga to PC format (.voc).
>Scoptrax is probably on garbo.uwasa.fi; you might have to look a
>little harder for moded200.zip (I believe that's the zip file name).
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^

I uploaded this file to simtel20.nasa.gov about a week ago.  It is mirrored
on wuarchive.wustl.edu in /mirrors/msdos/music (just checked to see if it was
there--it is :).  Now everyone can enjoy this wonderful editor.  Well that
is if they have enough time to understand the programming behind it.

Ray Seibert
seibert@mentor.cc.purdue.edu


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From: tracyb@bnr.ca (Tracy Blomquist)
Subject: SB and GUS co-exist?
Organization: Bell Northern Research
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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 04:36:17 GMT

Can a regular SB 2.0 and the GUS co-exist on the same bus and
work?  Rather than have to load the GUS SB emulation TSR, I'd
like to use the real SB for existing games until the GUS gets
better support, but I'd like to be able to play with the GUS
at the same time.

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