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Date: 12 Nov 92 01:24:56 GMT
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: NCAA STATISTICS NEEDED - HELP!
Summary: Aggregate Div. I Stats Needed
Keywords: Statistics

Hello Sports Fans!

As part of an academic research project, a colleague
and I are trying to locate descriptive statistics for
NCAA Division I schools.  What we need are AGGREGATED
statistics such as average school enrollment, average
athletics budget, average attendance, average number
of men's and women's sports, etc., etc. for Division I
schools AS A GROUP.  What we are trying to do is to
develop a simple profile of the "typical representative"
NCAA Division I member.

We can look up most of these statistics BY SCHOOL in the
NCAA annual Handbook, but given the way the statistics
are reported it would be a major undertaking to compile
the numbers and crunch the averages.  It is hard to
believe, but the NCAA apparently does not calculate AGGREGATE
averages for its member institutions (verified by a phone
call to their headquarters)!  The NCAA does not know what
the average characteristics of its members are!

Thus, we need some help.  Does anyone know of a source that
has already compiled and calculated these type of statistics?
We have searched a number of potential sources with no luck.
If anyone knows of a likely data source or has the information,
PLEASE contact me by e-mail at the addresses below.

Many thanks in advance!

Paul ---->    pwg1@Ra.MsState.edu

  
 
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: tino@yogi.metray (Vinny Tino)
Subject: The Eagles have landed (and State of Coll...)
Reply-To: tino@yogi.metray
Organization: FSU DEPT OF METEOROLOGY
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 18:22:12 GMT


Time to come back to Earth, BC.  The blowout to ND should wake you up.  Now the
big test is if y'all can come back against Syracuse.  How they play against
Syracuse will show how good the Eagles really are.  A rebounding win will show 
some balls, but a loss will just tell the world that BC had an easy first half
schedule and can't beat the college football powers.

my top 5 
1. Miami, Fla
2. Alabama
3. Michigan
4. Florida State
5. Washington

BTW, where are all those folks woofing that Washington teams will have fewer 
losses than FSU and Miami...(We don't acknowlege UF as humans, nevermind 
a football team)

FSU & Miami = 1 loss
UW & WSU = 4? losses

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college,rec.sport.basketball.college
From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Pac-10 expansion rumors
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:14:03 GMT

In article <JOHNDOE92Nov6.100304@samadams.inmet> of rec.sport.football.college  
johndoe@samadams.inmet (johndoe) writes:
> and, of course, there is huge pot of extra tv money generated by the playoff
> game the pac-12 could have thanks to ncaa's "12-team football conferences
> may have a divisional playoff" rule.  this is why the sec expanded to 12
> teams.  it makes me curious why the big10/11 doesn't do the same thing ...
> though i guess that the big10/11 is also about the only major basketball
> conference in the country without a postseason tournament.

Except that the Pac-10 has no postseason hoops tournament, cancelled
due to lack of interest.

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From: krall@Think.COM (Tom Krall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: re: rivals
Date: 13 Nov 1992 19:31:46 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: custard.think.com


In article <12NOV199212235348@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov>, acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY) writes:
|> In article <1dou0qINNag4@uwm.edu>, paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes...
|> >oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:
|> >
|> >Since we are getting to the point in the college football
|> >season where "Rivals Collide!!!", does anybody have a copy
|> >of the list of "trophies" that are at stake?
|> >
|> 
|> My personal favorite, although it's rarely played for, is Arizona vs. New 
|> Mexico for the Winchester Rifle.
|> 
|> R Dendy
|> 

Minnesota plays for several trophies throughout the year:

	1.  vs. Michigan for "The Little Brown Jug"
				(A water jug left by a Michigan trainer, and
				 ransomed by the U of Minnesota)

	2.  vs. Wisconsin for "Paul Bunyan's Axe"
				(A *huge* wooden axe)

	3.  vs. Iowa for "Floyd of Roseville"  (?)
			  (A bronze pig !)

The Little Brown Jug is probably the most famous, but Minnesota LOVES to 
win the Axe and Floyd. Anyone from Wisconsin and/or Iowa know more about
how these trophies came to be ?

Tom
Go Gophs ! Beat Wisconsin and Iowa !
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From: krall@Think.COM (Tom Krall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Distribution: world
Followup-To: 
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Subject: Re: Traditional Rivalries
Keywords: 

In article <12NOV199212235348@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov>, acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY) writes:
|> In article <1dou0qINNag4@uwm.edu>, paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes...
|> >oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:
|> >
|> >Since we are getting to the point in the college football
|> >season where "Rivals Collide!!!", does anybody have a copy
|> >of the list of "trophies" that are at stake?
|> >
|> 
|> My personal favorite, although it's rarely played for, is Arizona vs. New 
|> Mexico for the Winchester Rifle.
|> 
|> R Dendy
|> 

Minnesota plays for several trophies throughout the year:

	1.  vs. Michigan for "The Little Brown Jug"
				(A water jug left by a Michigan trainer, and
				 ransomed by the U of Minnesota)

	2.  vs. Wisconsin for "Paul Bunyan's Axe"
				(A *huge* wooden axe)

	3.  vs. Iowa for "Floyd of Roseville"  (?)
			  (A bronze pig !)

The Little Brown Jug is probably the most famous, but Minnesota LOVES to 
win the Axe and Floyd. Anyone from Wisconsin and/or Iowa know more about
how these trophies came to be ?

Tom
Go Gophs ! Beat Wisconsin and Iowa !
-- 
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Thomas F. Krall 
Product Support
Thinking Machines Corporation
=============================



From: krall@Think.COM (Tom Krall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Distribution: world
Followup-To: 
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Subject: Re: Traditional Rivalries
Keywords: 

In article <12NOV199212235348@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov>, acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY) writes:
|> In article <1dou0qINNag4@uwm.edu>, paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes...
|> >oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:
|> >
|> >Since we are getting to the point in the college football
|> >season where "Rivals Collide!!!", does anybody have a copy
|> >of the list of "trophies" that are at stake?
|> >
|> 
|> My personal favorite, although it's rarely played for, is Arizona vs. New 
|> Mexico for the Winchester Rifle.
|> 
|> R Dendy
|> 

Minnesota plays for several trophies throughout the year:

	1.  vs. Michigan for "The Little Brown Jug"
				(A water jug left by a Michigan trainer, and
				 ransomed by the U of Minnesota)

	2.  vs. Wisconsin for "Paul Bunyan's Axe"
				(A *huge* wooden axe)

	3.  vs. Iowa for "Floyd of Roseville"  (?)
			  (A bronze pig !)

The Little Brown Jug is probably the most famous, but Minnesota LOVES to 
win the Axe and Floyd. Anyone from Wisconsin and/or Iowa know more about
how these trophies came to be ?

Tom
Go Gophs ! Beat Wisconsin and Iowa !
-- 
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Thomas F. Krall 
Product Support
Thinking Machines Corporation
=============================




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=============================
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Product Support
Thinking Machines Corporation
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From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Boilerweenie Alert!!!
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:52:51 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <1dcpeuINN5d9@bredbeddle.cs.purdue.edu> sjc@cs.purdue.edu (Steve Chapin) writes:
>}} In article <1992Nov5.215906.9094@u.washington.edu> crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>}} 
>}} Now you see the big problem.  Meeks is a Boilerweenie.  All this time, and
>}} we had no idea.  Chapin's security police must be better than we thought.
>}} If Meeks hadn't let this slip out, who knows how much damage he might have
>}} done.  I suggest you sick Debbie on him.
>
>I see I'll have to have my Chief Security Officer, Dr. Jeff Burch, and
>his Lieutenant, Mark Mitchell, pay a visit to Agent Meeks.  Boys,
>break out the rubber hoses, grits, and okra (for there can be no worse
>punishment than these...).  We cannot tolerate slipshod performances.

Fear not, we will get to the bottom of it all.  We have ways...

Unfortunately, my chief Lieutenant, Mark "Eauxkra-Hater" Mitchell is
traveling to Italy this week, ostensibly to give a paper on his radar
work, but *actually* to forge closer ties between our Security Office
and the Mafia (and to learn their ways and means).

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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^  Georgia Tech Research Institute                                    ^ 
^  Electro-Optics and Physical Sciences Laboratory                    ^
^  Atlanta, Georgia       You are about to experience the awe and     ^
^  30332               mystery which reaches from the inner mind to:  ^
^  404-894-3628                    ~The Outer Limits~                 ^
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From: kw02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (KUANG-CHUNG WAN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: SEC Preview (November 14)
Date: 13 Nov 92 06:28:24 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Nov12.134743.9155@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM>, kevin@cadzook.Colu
mbiaSC.NCR.COM (Kevin.Dailey) writes:
>: FLORIDA (6-2) hosts SOUTH CAROLINA (4-5):
>: Well, USC continues to roll after the "Mutiny in Columbia."  If the
>: Cocks were hosting this one, it'd be a tough one to pick.  Reality check
>: for Taneyhill & Co.  Florida 31-21.
>: Mark Mitchell's pick: Florida 28-14
>: Last meeting: (1964)
>: Series record: Florida leads 6-3-3
>:
>
>       If the Gamecocks can find a way to pressure Fla's QB w/o giving up
>       the big play it could be a close game and set up a possible upset.
>        Otherwise, Fla. will pick the Gamecocks apart for big yardage and big
>       scores passing!
>
>       Go Gamecocks!
>
>
>--
> Kevin E. Dailey     | NCR Corporation (MPCD-Columbia), Unit Development, MSBU
> Phone: 803-791-6432 | 3325 Platt Springs Road, West Columbia, SC 29170
>   Fax: 803-739-7317 | Internet E-mail: Kevin.Dailey@ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM
> VoicePlus: 632-6432 |                  !uunet!ncrcom!ncrcae!cadzook!kevin
>
Anybody knows what's the ABC regional coverage for Saturaday afternoon here
in Bethlehem, PA?  I'd like to watch Georgia-Auburn game, but don't know
if it is available here.  Thanx
-- 
K.C. (Joseph) Wan
ME&Mech Dept.
Lehigh University
Bethlehem, PA 18015
From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: UA&AU
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:09:04 GMT

In article <BILLMS.92Nov5110015@dip.eecs.umich.edu> billms@eecs.umich.edu  
(William Mangione-Smith) writes:

> Whats the revenge factor with Miami, here?  Did I forget some historic 
> drubbing that Alabama has been mulling over for years?

I think the revenge is based on the fact that the unbeaten Hurricanes
are arrogant enough to be ranked above the unbeaten Crimson Tide.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: shyam@netcom.com (Shyam K. Subramanyan)
Subject: Re: The Eagles have landed (and State of Coll...)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 07:38:23 GMT

In article <BxHI3J.IIu@encore.com> jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett) writes:
>
>| 
>| BTW, where are all those folks woofing that Washington teams will have fewer 
>| losses than FSU and Miami...(We don't acknowlege UF as humans, nevermind 
>| a football team)            
>
>
>Only a gator could love a gator.
Yeah. And everybody loves the canes. Quit dreaming.

>Since the lezzards won't play Miami,  you guys have to put a extra whipping
>on them for us.
If you wanted to play us that much, I wonder why Miam ran away from
New Orleans? Dont give shit about not being invited.  We were there and
waiting.  You may get a chance to play us this year, mebbe you won't chicken
out this time.
>
>Go Noles kick the lezzards into Georgia.
The Noles(Ugh!) are gonna kick themseleves outta Florida & it will be
Miami's turn in the sugar bowl, that is if they don't chicken out again.
-- 
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Shyam Subramanyan			shyam@netcom.com

A damn proud UF (The only real University in Florida) Alumni

Go Gators....
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: chyang@australorp.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: Re: Washington vs. Arizona
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 17:46:25 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: chyang@australorp.engin.umich.edu


In article <1992Nov8.183431.16716@asuvax.eas.asu.edu>, kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy) writes:
> chyang@simile.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:
> > Despite the loss, the Huskies will go to the Rose Bowl if they
> > win their last two games and that should be easy.  
> 
>      What a foolish thing to say.  I remember
> one year (was it '84?) when Washington said the
> same thing, only to go on to get upset in the
> Apple Cup and lose the Rose Bowl.
> 
>      That put Arizona State in, since all they
> had to do was beat lowly Arizona.  Arizona State
> then copped the same piss poor attitude and
> proceeded to go down to Tucson and get whipped.
> UCLA wound up backing into the Rose Bowl with two
> Pac-10 losses, including a loss to Ted Tollner's
> hapless Southern Cal team which had also risen to
> the occasion to beat a favored rival.
> 
>      You have no doubt offended the woofing gods.
> Repent and pray for forgiveness.

	If you examine the situation closely you will notice that the
Woofing Gods have already gotten the Huskies.  Do you seriously think
that the Woofing Gods would strike a team twice in a season?  		
	
	I remember the years that you described well.  In 1984, the
Huskies were undefeated until they played the Cougs.  They went 
a head to defeat Oklahoma in the 1985 Orange Bowl and ended up ranking
2nd in the AP pole behind BYU.  In that case the Woof God only struck
once.  I seriously doubt that he/she will strike again.  

- Chung Yang

> 
> --Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
>                         {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
>                                           ^---------------The Wrong Choice
>                              internet: kennedy@asuvax.asu.edu
Xref: sparky rec.sport.football.college:19027 alt.licker.store:36
From: corleyj@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Jason D Corley )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college,alt.licker.store
Subject: Re: Apple Cup (was Re: Washington vs. Arizona)
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:25:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <1992Nov9.035100.28076@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> franklir@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Ryan J Franklin ) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.011336.27053@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> corleyj@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Jason D Corley ) writes:
>>DIALECTICAL MATERIALISM! states that Pullman games are clear
>>violations of NeoMarxist principles and also economically
>>suppress those proletarians in need of semiotic neuroimplants...
>>
>>Otherwise, this thread has no purpose on alt.licker.store.
>>
>>Please keep all comments on alt.licker.store to the discussion
>>of DIALECTICAL MATERIALISM! and read the FAQ if you have any
>>other questions.
>
>You have obviously forgotten that no one cares about dialectical
>materialism, let alone DIALECTICAL MATERIALISM!, and that there is
>no FAQ, let alone a purpose, to this newsgroup.  None whatsoever.
>Go ahead.  Try and find one.  You won't, it doesn't exist.
> 
>Therefore, we're left with two options.  Either no thread has a purpose
>on alt.licker.store, or ANY thread can.  
> 
>	-- Ryan Franklin
>	   franklir@gas.uug.arizona.edu
>

Ryan I resent that statement!  I have not forgotten that
alt.licker.store is completely pointless!
Therefore the Apple Cup... thread and the Flame-Apple-Cup
thread and even your inane Flame-The-Flame-of-Apple-Cup
thread and even this rather dumb Flame-The-Flamed-Flame-
Of-The-Apple-Cup thread all have exactly the same
validity on alt.licker.store which is, as
DIALECTICAL MATERIALISM! states, "Ngorny Karabach Ia Cthulhu."

And there is a FAQ!  Here is the Frequently Asked Question
on alt.licker.store:
What's the point?

And there is, of course, no FAQ, Frequently Answered Question,
at all.

	Jason
PS If you don't like it, you can slip nasty notes under my door.
You know where I live...hey wait a minute...you live there too!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Buffs vs J-Hawks bowls
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:43:17 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


I heard that the winner will more than likely go to
the Blockbuster while the loser goes to the Aloha.
Miami or Honolulu?  Doesn't sound like a losing
proposition to me.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Apple Cup (was Re: Washington vs. Arizona)
Date: 8 Nov 92 05:48:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <5dA=Ra+@engin.umich.edu> chyang@simile.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:
>                                           Despite the loss, the Huskies 
>will go to the Rose Bowl if they win their last two games and that should
>be easy.  

I hope that the Husky football team has as much (typical) foolish arrogance
as you display here, because if so the Cougars will blow them out of the
water in the Apple Cup.  Granted, in half of the dozen or so years I've
followed the contest as a Cougar partisan, the UW had the Cougs outclassed
so the outcome wasn't much in doubt.  But that is not at all the case
this year.  The Cougar offsense is a bit better than most years,
and for once they have a good defense.  And the game is in Pullman.  Beware!

Please, do what you can to get your football team to adopt the above
attitude.  :-}
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Tucson, AZ 85721; USA                     FAX:      +1 602 621 4246
The fact that you're paranoid doesn't prove they're *not* out to get you.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: tino@yogi.metray (Vinny Tino)
Subject: Re: Washington State
Reply-To: tino@yogi.metray
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 18:46:42 GMT

In article q3@cs.uiuc.edu, rglaeser@cs.uiuc.edu (Russ Glaeser) writes:
>In <1992Nov5.152323.24272@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> tino@ray.metray (Vinny Tino) writes:
>
>>Gee, y'all notice that them folks aren't hootin for them there WSU Coyotes (I 
>>mean Cougars) anymore.  What fans...Gotta love 'em... I sure hope UWash never
>>loses two games.  I'd hate too see all those great Washington high school 
>>players come to Florida State..
>
>>------------------ Vincent Tino - Studentus Graduatus Perpetuus ---------------
>
>I've never posted anything to this group before because most of what is said
>here is plain bullshit, but son, you don't know what the hell you're talking
>about.  WSU fans are some of the most loyal in the country.  It's easy being
>a FSU fan since they win all the time, but you really need devotion to be a
>WSU fan year in and year out.  You don't know how many times I've said "Next
>year we'll get 'em."  When's the last time you cried over a particularly
>tough loss to your arch-rival?  When's the last time YOU drove 2000 miles in a
>weekend to watch a football game?  WSU has gone to about five bowl games in
>it's 102 year existence.  How many fair-weather fans do you think a record
>like that would attract?  How much of a fan would you be if your beloved
>Sememoles were to try their best and end up with a 5-6 record?  How about 3-8?
>I've cheered through both, and I still go back for more...and I'm not the only
>one.
>
>I guess you could say I'm offended that you're questioning my loyalty to a
>team I hold very dear to my heart.
>
>In reference to your comment about UW losing two games, about 3 years ago
>UW had a bad year.  The first year UW didn't go to a bowl in about 15 years.
>UW "fans" wanted James' head on a plate.  Now how's THAT for fair-weather fans?
>
>I'm proud of being a Cougar.  At least when we lose noone boos.
>
>Russ Glaeser
>WSU class of '90

1. Don't use the word "son", it's degrading.  (I also graduated in 1990)
2. No offense was personally intended.  Just a lot of hootin & hollerin (and 
shit talkin) before and then never heard from again after.  These are probably 
the Husky fans doing the talking, right?  I'm not putting down the fans, just 
the trash-talkers.  
3. As for crying over tough losses, Miami-1987,'88,'90,'91,'92 most by less 
than 5 pts.
4. I'd love to see WSU beat UW....

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------------------ Vincent Tino - Studentus Graduatus Perpetuus ---------------
----------------- Dept. of Meteorology, Florida State University --------------
-------------------- Meteorologists like it warm and wet! ---------------------
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