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From: chrisw@chopin.FtCollins.NCR.com (Chris Whitley)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Halloween ideas needed (22 mo.)
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:03:17 GMT
Reply-To: chrisw@chopin.FtCollins.NCR.com (Chris Whitley)
Distribution: world
Organization: NCR Microelectronics, Ft. Collins, CO

This Halloween my daughter will be 22 months old.  This
is old enough to really enjoy most traditional Halloween
festivities, but not old enough to eat most Halloween
candy.  My thought is that most Halloween candy is
too hard or too chewy for the limited eating capabilities
of a 22 month old...i.e. it poses a choking hazard.
 
Actually, I can't decide if it would be worth the
potential trauma of taking away most or all of any
loot she would get trick or treating to have the
fun I know she would have trick or treating.  You
can't really explain that sort of thing to a not-yet
2-yo's satisfaction!  Any experiences to share?
 
Even if she doesn't go trick or treating, I know
she would enjoy answering the door for the 75 or so
trick or treaters we usually get.  I will try letting
her hand out the treats.  But of course, to maximize
this enjoyment and avoid significant argument, she
must be able to EAT the treats we hand out.  This means
nothing to choke on, and I'm a bit leary of pure milk
chocolate at her age...  she has only had limited
quantities in the past, in the form of an occasional
choc. chip cooky.  The only treat I can come up with
that fills this bill is granola bars. I don't want to
give out anything too boring or healthy, either (for
example raisins just wouldn't have worked for ME as a
kid).  And you can't give out a homemade treat (i.e.
oatmeal cookies) because it isn't hermetically sealed.
Any ideas for fun treats for all ages?
 
Also, what kind of costume can you keep on a kid
who, of course, would really enjoy doing who-knows-what
other-than-wearing to anything that could be pryed
off their body?  For example, my guess is that a funny
hat would immediately be taken off and tried on all the
teddy bears, and then I'd be asked to put it back on
"right", and then she'd take it off again, and probably
sit on it, and...you have the idea.  Easy, cute,
practical costume ideas would be welcome.
(Warning - I don't own a sewing machine, although I
am quite willing to do limited sewing with a needle
and thread.)
 
Finally, we will be having a Halloween party for 5
of her same-age friends (early in the day).  I was
thinking of party favor ideas, and remembered a few
years ago when (a now moved-away) friend painted
small pumpkins and shellaced them shiny with something
so that they kept 6 months or so.  Only I don't know
what she painted or shellaced them with (and was it
safe for kids I wonder).  Anybody ever do this and
if so, care to share the how-to's with me?

I'll post a summary if it seems warranted.  Thanks in
advance for any advice!

Chris
Organization: Administrative Systems, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 10:30:56 -0400 
From: Laura McGinnis <lm3a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Fwd: realistic baby dolls

This was on the humor bboard, bu treally should be shared with the
misc.kidders!

:-)

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From: cortese@skid.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese)
Newsgroups: rec.humor.funny
Subject: realistic baby dolls
Date: 11 Sep 92 08:30:04 GMT

Seeing as how global overpopulation is such a pressing issue, my
boyfriend and I were thinking about the things that could be done to
alleviate it.

One of the things that makes people underestimate what it takes to raise
a baby is they way they are told about it in childhood -- in other words
baby dolls.  My boyfriend and I thought on this one and came up with a
few top sellers that would illustrate to any seven year old girl what it
really takes to raise a kid:

Baby Ain't-Gonna-Eat-This-Shit:  A small magnet glued to the inside of
the doll's face turns the head every time a spoon is brought too close.
A special spring system throws one arm up to knock to spoon out of the
loving mommy's hands and onto her clothes. 

Baby Dump-Your-Pants: Self-explanatory.  A special additive at a minial
extra cost simulates the true olfactory experience of changing an
infant's diapers.  Again, special spring systems insure that the infant
will not sit still but will instead squirm around and get out of your
hands just like a REAL BABY!!

Baby Up-At-Two-AM: A timer in the doll attached to a loudspeaker
automatically starts screaming every night at 2 in the morning.  Perfect
for those seven year olds who work swing shift!

Baby Colic:  A patented orange dye implanted into the skin of the doll
intensifies over a period of a week.  Removal of the timer from the
loudspeaker system also recreates temperament of a sick infant.

Baby Screams-In-Public-Places:  For those working mommies and daddies
who can't pay for a babysitter, here's what's in store for YOU!
 
Junior Toddler NO-O-O-O-O-O-O-O!!!!!!:  Again, an eerily realistic
attempt to recreate the experience of dealing with a 2 year old. 

And for the older crowd:

Unwed Teenaged Mother:  Just twist her arm, and she gets pregnant!

Unwed Teenaged Father:  Teaches children an important lesson when, upon
getting the box home, they open it and discover that the doll is gone.

(thunk up by Janis Cortese and Mike Zintl) 
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From: tigger@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Grace Sylvan)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Doctor Visits: Girl is growing up fast
Date: 12 Sep 92 05:38:27 GMT
Organization: Sylvan Associates

In article <STEVE.92Sep11101834@diana.Advansoft.COM> steve@Advansoft.COM (Steve Savitzky) writes:

   My wife had her first period at 9; we expect at least one of our two
   daughters to do likewise.  Your friend is probably right, though, that
   you should take your daughter to a doctor, if only to assure *her*
   that everything is proceeding normally.

I think you should take you daughter to a doctor, and start the
tradition of YEARLY GYN visits. Maybe not quite at age 9, but I
strongly suggest taking her to one *before* she moves out of the
house. She needs to know they're important, not just for birth
control, but for woman's health.

A very dear family friend died from cancer because she never went for
checkups - she and her husband used condoms, and she never got
pregnant, and they never planned on having children. By the time the
cancer was detected, it has spread all over the place. My grandmother
also died of cancer that had spread, it was believed to have started
in her reproductive system.

And, while on the topic of Doctor visits, let's get the MEN, too.
Please, please, go in for your yearly physicals as you get on in
years. My grandfather didn't, and got prostrate cancer (**very**
common in older men!) and it is very treatable, if it hasn't spread.
My grandfather now has less than 6 months to live, it was already
spread to his bones by the time my mom talked him into going in for a
checkup (last month). I'm going to be flying out with the kids so that
he can meet his latest great grandchild, before it's too late.
-- 

Tigger (Grace Sylvan)                Mom of Katherine Yelena, 8/8/89 &
tigger@satyr.sylvan.com              Robin Gregory born 2/28/92

 "It seems to me that our large goal is to find the ways to help our
 children become humane and strong."
 
              - Dr Haim Ginott quoted by Adele Faber & Elaine Mazlish
From: kati@glnserv.UUCP (Lady Dragon)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Diaper Rash
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 08:30:16 CDT
Organization: Vermi-net, Houston, Tx. 77098

vrs0@bunny.gte.com (V. Stern) writes:

> My son has had a persistent diaper rash around his anal area for the past
> two weeks.  He is not normally disposed to rashes, but this one will not
> go away.  I was using Nystatin, but it didn't really help, so I stopped.
> I've been using Balmex every time I change him.  I haven't called the ped
> because I know what he will say - try to keep the area uncovered as much
> as possible (ha,ha), use the Balmex, etc.  It started as a small pimply
> rash, looking like a yeast infection, which is why I was using the
> Nystatin, but when it didn't help I stopped because I remember the ped
> telling me that it is a topical steroid and thins the skin a little.  Now
> it is bleeding a little at changing time.  The poor little thing couldn't
> sit in the tub last night because he said it hurt his bottom.  Anymore
> suggestions or is it time to finally call the doctor?
>
> Vanessa R. Stern
> vrs0@bunny.gte.com

It might be possible that he is allergic to something he has been eating.



* * email address: nuchat!xcluud!glnserv!kati * Houston, Texas, USA, Earth * *
From: rigg@osnome.che.wisc.edu (Tim Rigg)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Car Seats and Trucks
Date: 9 Sep 1992 10:06:20 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

   >I have an '87 Ford Ranger with a bench seat, without an extended cab,
   >and with a manual transmission.  Is there any chance of getting a car
   >seat to fit this truck.  I doubt it.

   ???????

   All of our car seats fit just fine in our Chevy Pickup.  I am confused
   as to why they wouldn't fit in yours.

I am similarly confused.  Do you mean that you have no problems
putting two adults and a child seat on a bench seat with a manual
transmission?

Do you have a full size Chevy or an S10?
Do you have an extended cab?

thanks,
tim
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: Mike Bishop <SNOMCB@mvs.sas.com>
Subject: Newcomer to the list.
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 03:50:00 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.

 
 Just found this list and it made for interesting reading, also
enjoyable too. We have 3 boys in our house.
Ronald Bradley (Brad)  12 YO
Daniel Craig            9 YO
Jimmie Edward          13 MO
 
  Jimmie is a real rambucious kid and a climber too, no fear of
heights as long as he is in control. Not a fussy kid nor one
throws fits. But with 2 older brothers he tends to hold his own.
My wife keeps a friends baby, which is just 3 days older than
Jimmie. She is their first child but being around Jimmie she has
picked-up how hold her own too.
 
Oh!  the joys of parenthood.
 
 Mike
From: scooter@hirgon.hw.stratus.com (Scott Jeffrey)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: You know you're a parent ....
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:36:40 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.


	...when you go to work with a Sesame Street band-aid on.

scooter

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Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: jbyrd@chpc.utexas.edu (Jan Byrd)
Subject: Re: "Missing out" (was. re:  Justin...)
Organization: Center for High Performance Computing, Univ. of Texas System
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 20:09:34 GMT

Regarding whether or not something is "missing" if a mother doesn't go
through the entire birth experience with no drugs or anesthetic:  it
seems that most of us are forgetting that that is probably how WE arrived
on the planet.   Back when I was born women were zonked shortly after they
arrived at the hospital, Dads paced the waiting room, smoking cigarettes
and reading old copies of Sports Illustrated.  Mom had to be TOLD that
they had had a baby and WHAT gender it was when they woke up from the anes-
thetic.  Sometimes neither parent saw the baby for quite a while, and there
were no stories to tell except for the ride to the hospital, because neither
Mom nor Dad knew anything about what happened between that time and the
AFTERWARDS.

I have observed all 4 of my children as they made their entry into the world
(only one of which was completely without drugs), and as great as it was to 
see them born, I couldn't be any closer to them than I was to my own dear 
mother who "missed" the experience of seeing me born.  Surely it made no
real difference, either to her or to me.

Jan
Newsgroups: misc.kids,rec.arts.startrek.current
From: hubcap@hubcap.clemson.edu (System Janitor)
Subject: Re: Names
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:07:42 GMT

wwolf@zooid.guild.org (White Wolf) writes:

 * Furthermore, try and pretend that
 * you're a cruel child and come up with any realy nasty nicknames you can ie if
 * your considering a specific name, try and imagine how it could be warped by
 * cruel schoolmates in later life.

Yea, Homer did this when he and Marge were trying to think up a name for
their soon to be firstborn...

I'll have to paraphrase, but:

   Marge: Rich?
   Homer: Nooooo, they'll call him Rich the Snitch
   Marge: Billy?
   Homer: Silly Billy...
   Marge: Dan?
   Homer: Danny Fanny...
   Marge: Bart?
   Homer: Uh... OK.

Bwahahahahahahaha!

Oh yea, those who don't appreciate The Simpsons, hit n before you read any
of this...

-Mike
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer)
Subject: MISLEADING subject--was: Folic Acid prevents spinabifida!
Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal.
	<1992Sep15.220214.23295@ttinews.tti.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:51:48 GMT

Let me restate what was in the original article.  Folic acid _reduces_
_the_ _probability_ of spina bifida.  It does NOT prevent spina bifida.

The original article said that only half of the cases of spina bifida
could be eliminated.  Only stopping half the cases is not prevention.

On the other hand, take your folic acid.  Half is better than none.

--
Mary Shafer  DoD #0362 KotFR NASA Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, CA
shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov                    Of course I don't speak for NASA
 "There's no kill like a guns kill." LCDR "Hoser" Satrapa, gunnery instructor
                       "A kill is a kill."  Anonymous
From: gorman@acsu.buffalo.edu (Anne-Marie K. Gorman)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Attitudes to breast-feeding
Summary: Apology for wrong impression
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:58:54 GMT
Organization: UB


I would like to apologize to all thosee who were offended by my
post about my suister-in-law who does not want to try breast-feeding.
I am not a fanatical anti-formula person.  My babies get formula 
from a bottle when I am not there to nurse them.  I'm also not
a haranguer--I have had only one discussion of the subject with
her, and did not put any pressure on her or dump any guilt, merely
pointed out the advantages for her to consider.  (Whether or not she
did I can't say, of course.)

In any case, it was never my intention to suggest taht bottle-feeding 
is wrong.  I think it's almost always worth a try, but I know that not
everyone agrees, for various reasons.  I was only responding to a
previous post that wondered about helping people to consider breast-
feeding who otherwise wouldn't.  If I offended you, I'm sorry.  It
was quite unintentional.

-- 
==============================================================================
Anne-Marie K. Gorman          Sophie and Teresa are 8 months old and almost
Human factors/ergonomics      standing!  Time flies twice as fast when you're
University at Buffalo         having twice as much fun.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: tanner@sundog.nas.nasa.gov (Leigh Ann Tanner)
Subject: Re: Remote (Taxpayer) Wallets
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation Facility NASA
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 00:18:41 GMT
Reply-To: tanner@sundog.nas.nasa.gov (Leigh Ann Tanner)

In article <1992Sep12.195612.12451@gdr.bath.ac.uk>, chpetk@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Toby Kelsey) writes:
|> >> In article <1992Sep9.063605.3983@desire.wright.edu> sbishop@desire.wright.edu
|> 
|> >> >I also know more than a few who refuse to pay any support at all.
|> 	[...etc, see original article]
|> 
|> >chpetk@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Toby Kelsey) writes:
|> 
|> >> Tell me Sue, how much child support does she pay him?
|> >> If she pays none, does that make her a 'scumbag' as well?
|> >>   ...somehow I won't be suprised when you say 'No'.
|> 
|> In article <g24XqB2w165w@dogear.spk.wa.us> bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick) writes:
|> 
|> >Toby, you aren't making sense. He doesn't have his kids, doesn't want
|> >his kids, so why on earth should she pay him anything?
|> 
|> Well, remember Sue said:
|> >> >woman) makes very good money, more than she does, has the children every 
|> >> >weekend and as often as possible during the summer.  He also refuses to
|> 
|> If child support is for the children, she should pay him during the summer.
|> 
|> Incidently if you follow soc.men you will hear about men with full
|> custody still having to pay their ex 'child support'.
|> Sue generalised from one man not paying child support to say:
|> 
|> >> >It's men like that who give the rest of the fathers a bad name in court.  
|> 
|> My point is simply that women have as bad or worse a record on not
|> paying, even if you restrict this to NCPs. So the anti-men attitude
|> Sue expressed is not justified by this - I would say the
|> reverse, this is just another (poor) excuse for men-bashing.
|> 
|> >Child support is for the kids, not the ex-spouse. At least, that's the
|> >theory. Granted that in practice it can work out differently, but that's
|> >not what this conversation is about.
|> 
|> I would have thought that what happens in practice is very relevant.
|> If, say, both the CPs and NCPs contributions were paid into an account,
|> and withdrawals from that account had to be matched with receipts for
|> expenditure on the children, then:

This is actually how my brother-in-law pays his child support. Checks
don't even go to his ex. It goes into an account for his children that is handled by an administrator and his ex withdraws the money for the children submitting proof of where the money goes.

Leigh Ann
tanner@sundog.nas.nasa.gov
From: anita@devvax.mincom.oz.au (Anita Graham)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Caffeine during Pregnancy
Date: 11 Sep 92 05:40:14 GMT
Organization: Mincom

Re: giving up caffeine for pregnancy

I think giving up caffeine (or alcohol, or even smoking) totally for the 
period of pregnancy is going too far. Now I don't smoke, and rarely drink
alcohol, but I rely on cups of tea to keep going, especially when I'm tired
or sick. These times are more frequent during pregnancy.

Sure, heavy smokers have little babies, and foetal alcohol syndrome exists
- but these relate to HEAVY HEAVY smokers and total alcoholics don't they.
Not someone who just has to have a smoke every now and then, or has a glass
of wine once a week when they go out to dinner (*), or even has regular
cups of tea or coffee.

Cut down, but if its what keeps you sane, don't give up. Remember
MODERATION!
-- 
*. We have a two year old. We don't go out to dinner once a week. I wish we
   did.
*. Last time, I was constantly sick. I hated the sight of coffee. 5ml (1/6
   oz) of wine could lay me out till 2pm the next day. I lived on tea! This
   time I'm well, and not refusing the odd glass of wine if it comes my
   way.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Anita Graham
anita@mincom.oz.au
From: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Crib recommendation wanted
Date: 11 Sep 1992 15:59:00 GMT
Reply-To: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula)
Distribution: na
Originator: pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <BuDvvG.4tz@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, weller@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Bonnie Weller) writes:
|> I would also think sleeping in a playpen would be hard on the baby's
|> back.  Baby's are people too, and they desrve a good, firm (but not
|> too firm, i.e. the floor,) mattress.  Maybe more so, as their bones
|> are still pliable and developing.  A good mattress is important to its 
|> developing spine.

But isn't the floor superior to any mattress? I've always found it much 
better. Mattresses tend to get too soft, and then they cause backaches. 
Floors are available everywhere, and never make my back hurt. Unfortunately, 
my husband prefers his bed, and I'm not about to sleep alone.

If I'm wrong, then how do the majority of people in the world, or at least 
in human history and pre-history, ever develop properly, since they don't 
(didn't) sleep on mattresses?

Paula Burch
pburch@bcm.tmc.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: d8b@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (Boudria)
Subject: Re: Pregnant and wedding rings too tight
Organization: Raytheon Company, Portsmouth, RI
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:16:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.162155.6709@iscsvax.uni.edu> brandt3116@iscsvax.uni.edu (Pamela Brandt) writes:
>What a relief to hear that so many *other* women take off their wedding rings
>while pregnant!  I'm not a traitor to my husband after all!   
>But I took mine off not because I have any swelling problems [Haven't noticed
>any yet, & I'm 26 weeks along, though my socks are a bit snug!], but because I
>suddenly developed an allergic reaction to them!
>I also had dermatitis on my hands about the first 4 months of pregnancy. 
>Anybody else get funny skin problems while pregnant?
>Also, I decided to pass on the maternity underpants, because all those I could
>find were yucky and unattractive, but I did get new regular underwear -- 2
>sizes bigger than I normally [previously assumed to be "normal"]wear.  Why?   A
>nasty rash around the elastic legs.  Any sympathizers?
>
>P.S.  This is the first time I've tried to post here, so pardon the
>technological errors, but I do love to read this conference!!!
>

I really, really, really hate to break this to you, but I also developed
severe skin allergies while pregnant and they never went away.  I cannot
go anywhere near harsh cleaners, most soaps and all types of makeup and
moisturizer.  I never had this problem before I became pregnant.  My son
is six now and I am still having problems.  I has eczema so bad that one
of my fingers swelled to twice it's normal size and became infected.  It
itched so much that I had to be injected with antihistamines.  I always
have my prescription skin cream with me and go through about a tube a 
month (at about $15 a pop).  Even the hypoallergenic skin creams give me
a rash.  We have to be careful about laundry detergents, dish detergents,
soap and shampoo.  I'm even allergic to all types of dryer sheets.  The
funny thing is (and people don't believe me when I tell them this) we 
have found laundry detergents and dish detergents that work for us and
usually the cheapest black and white or store brands.  I use only Dial
white soap (most deoderant and perfumed soaps are a no-no), and switch
between the cheap brands of shampoo and Pert (we haven't found one that
doesn't give me a rash and still keeps my hair looking nice).  When my
scalp starts itching I use Denorex (but this stuff is really expensive).
I never wear any foundation makeup and have found that Complex 15
moisturizer is pretty good (this was recommended by my dermatologist).

Anyway, I hope this has been helpful.  I also hope your skin goes back
to normal after you have the baby because skin allergies are a pain in
the butt.

Denise
From: day_kevran@tandem.tandem.com (Kevran Day )
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Child Abuse Laws
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:41:15 GMT
Followup-To: misc.kids
Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc.

In article <Bu6J4I.861@belay>, cryst@belay (Crystal Bell) wrote:
> 
Stuff about a petition for tougher Child Abuse legislation deleted for
brevity.

The very recent killing of a 9 YO boy in San Francisco (Michael
Ngyuen) left me with a similar feeling.  Maybe it's wrong, but
I feel that the murder of a child is indeed a Capital crime.  I would
love to see legislation that makes punishment tougher on people 
who abuse or murder children.

Maybe it's the hormones but I'm finding it harder and harder to
read or hear about these stories.

Kevran (mom to Jason - 2YO and ??? due in Oct.)
Newsgroups: misc.kids,rec.arts.startrek.current