From: judy@vicorp.com (Judy Hawkins)
Subject: Re: *BAD* music group reorg will not be honored
Organization: V. I. Corporation, Northampton, Massachusetts
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:08:23 GMT

dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Dave Hayes) writes:

>jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
>>If they can't be bothered to vote, no, I don't have any concern for them. As
>>with the American political system, if you don't vote, don't bitch. (Re my
>>.signature: yes, I voted.)
>>There was overwhelming expressed support for the change. If there were that
>>many folks opposed to the change, WHY DIDN'T THEY VOTE AGAINST IT??!

I didn't know there was a vote going on until I saw the message saying it
was completed.  This is a vocal group, from the response
to the result of the vote it's clear there would have been considerable
discussion of the issue BEFORE the vote if we had been AWARE that there
was a vote.

There was no discussion that I saw, and I read r.m.s. almost daily.

>Most of them didn't even know a vote was going on...UNLIKE the American
>political system. And the support was not overwhelming. Most of those 
>yes votes were from non-participants (see below). They didn't vote FOR
>it either...

>Do you agree that it's unfair for a decision to be made about the name
>of a newsgroup without the members of that newsgroup having a say-so?

CATEGORICALLY UNFAIR.

I have a QUESTION -- is this renaming garbage the reason why I haven't seen
any posts from Metlay or Rothwell etc, lately?

If it is, SOMEBODY FIX THIS SITUATION.  I'm normally a lurker, I'm one of
those chronically shy people who has never developed any people type resources
of the face-to-face type, like for asking questions and learning about things.

I've found r.m.s. to be a place where I can learn things without having to
suffer from my shyness and my reluctance to ask questions -- I just sit
here and read and get answers to questions I didn't even know I had.

I suppose a solution would be to subscribe to whatever I'm now missing -- but
I really prefer using nn to mail, it's got a much nicer interface... course,
now I'll probably get flamed for not know how to use some better mail utility;

but actually -- one the really great things about a forum is the interaction
of all the different people -- when you split the forum, you get two parts
each less than half of the original.

I don't care about net.fragmentation or ballyhoo about Guidelines or how
gateways work or all that: I'm one of the women who doesn't post because
usually she doesn't have much of anything to say, just a lot of music to
write.  That music making effort has been so much aided by people on this
group, maybe one of these years I'll get up the nerve to submit to MUSENET,
then you'll hear my real voice (words aren't it). 

Please just get together and fix things so they keep working? instead of 
squabbling?

>-- 
>Dave Hayes - Network & Communications Engineering - JPL / NASA - Pasadena CA
>dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov       dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov         ...usc!elroy!dxh

>               Call on God, but row away from the rocks.


--
Judy Hawkins             So wrap up care in a cobweb/ and drop it down the well
judy@vicorp.com          into that world inverted/ where left is always right
uunet!vicorp!judy                                           -- Elizabeth Bishop

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