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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:29:04 CDT
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From:         Yvonna Lincoln <E101YL@TAMVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Suggestion for periodicals
              27 Aug 1992 19:38:34 EDT from <Solomon.Yusim@LAMBADA.OIT.UNC.EDU>

Dear Solomon:  Your colleague might be interested in either the INTERNATIONAL J
OURNAL OF QUALITATIVE STUDIES IN EDUCATION (known familiarly as QUALITATIVE STU
DIES IN EDUCATION, or QSE), or the ANTHROPOLOGY AND EDUCATION QUARTERLY, publis
hed by the Council on Anthropology and Education subgroup of the American Anthr
opological Association.
      Hope this helps.      Yvonna Lincoln
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From:         JOHNSTONJM@MEMSTVX1.BITNET
Subject:      RE: infotainment & edutainment

Chris,
        Whittle Communications, based in Knoxville, Tennessee, has started
Channel One which is broadcast into public schools.  I have heard both terms
you mentioned used in the debate about this program.  I do not know if
either of these terms originated with Whittle's plan, but edutainment
certainly seems to apply in this case.
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From:         Chris.Bigum@DEAKIN.OZ.AU
Subject: Re: Mathematical Invention
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              3 Sep 1992 10:57:51 +0200

Alfred,

If you don't know Rotman's little book it is worth a look.

Rotman, Brian (1987), Signifying Nothing.  The Semiotics of Zero, Basingstoke,
Macmillan.


Chris Bigum
Deakin University
Geelong
Victoria 3217
Australia
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From:         Nicholas Sturm <aa248@YFN.YSU.EDU>
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>
>Folks:  I don't know why this message keeps popping up.  I'll try to
>find out and see what can be done.  Machine dreams....j.
>>
>>qualrs-l@uga.cc.uga.edu: You are not subscribed to csite@deakin.oz.au
>>Your message is returned to you unprocessed.
>>
>
>>Okay, let me give you a quick and dirty description of poststruct-
>>uralism...
>
>
>...   (cut here)
>
>To moderator only:  Apparently @deakin.oz.au  has a problem.  I received a
>message I sent to QUALR-L and which was forwarded to 'csite' returned
>directly to me.  I was unable to penetrate their maze.  It would appear
>that this one bounced and was then forewarded to all.
>
>You do have one user at @deakin.oz.au  who is able to get mail--perhaps
>you should send a message to foreward to 'csite'.  That user is:
>
>  CHRIS.BIGUM@DEAKIN.oz.au
>
>  Good luck.  DEAKIN response quickly, but meaninglessly when mail
>addressed to 'csite@deakin.oz.au'
>
>
>--
>Nicholas Sturm, 4037 Ward Beecher, 410 Wick Ave., Youngstown, Ohio 44555
>  * aa248@yfn.ysu.edu *
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>

To moderator:

  I contact a subscriber from this site: It appears that csite
is a list server at @deakin.oz.au  The subscriber was attempting
to foreward information from this server to that (csite) and it
failled.  He is trying another approach so it may not occur
again.

  Received prompt reply upon inquiry.

  nICK


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From:         Saul Carliner <CUISACX@GSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Info and Edutainment

 Chris Bigum asks:

 > I am engaged in a small research project concerned with the nexus
 > between education, IT and the market. The terms/categories infotainment
 > and edutainment appear in some press accounts of new media forms.
 > Would anyone have any idea about origins of the term or any useful
 > references?

 Although I'm no expert in the origin of these terms, I believe they come
 from the literature on mass communications, especially the trade
 literature.  You might have also noticed the terms "infomercial,"
 which refers to a cross between a commercial and information.
 Similar concepts are cropping up in shopping malls as they
 increasingly use entertainment to lure shoppers.

 I believe that the terms have come into use in the last three to five
 years.  Trade journals and press to check might include Variety and Ad
 Week; academic journals might include the Journal of Communication and
 Journal of Mass Communication (I think such a journal exists).
 "
 Saul Carliner, Ph.D Student            CUISACX@GSUVM1.GSU.EDU
 Instructional Techology                404/892-3945 (w&h)
 Georgia State University
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From:         "Michael Schratz, Uni Innsbruck" <Michael.Schratz@UIBK.AC.AT>
Subject:      Re: Realism=Positivism??? (Affordances)
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> ...another excellent read examining the role of affordances in the design of
> objects people interact with is Donald Norman's THE PSYCHOLOGY OF EVERYDAY
> THINGS. Available from Basic Books, I believe.

You might also be interested in his latest one, called TURN SIGNALS
ARE THE FACIAL EXPRESSIONS OF AUTOMOBILES, which was published by
Addison Wesley

Michael Schratz
Innsbruck
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Subject:      IZE

Please, let me know: where IZE (progr.) is awailable?
Seppo Saari

Seppo Saari
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From:         Nicholas Sturm <aa248@YFN.YSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Addendum to HARE query

>
> Here is the specific type of problem I need to be able to solve.
>Using the information below can anyone explain how the HARE
> system is used to calculate the winner?
>
>Problem:
>        The Department of Law contains 8 faculty members.   Three
>faculty members, Professors Dewey, Cheatham, and Howe are
>running in an election for Department Chair.  Each faculty member
>votes by rank ordering their choice 1 - 3.  The votes are presented
>below.
>        Explain how the HARE procedure is used to determine the
>winner of this election.
>
>                        DEWEY     CHEATHAM       HOWE
>
>Faculty A               1                 2                   3
>
>Faculty B               2                  1                   3
>
>Faculty C               3                   2                  1
>
>Faculty D               1                   2                   3
>
>Faculty E               1                   2                    3
>
>Faculty F               3                   1                    2
>
>Faculty G               2                    3                   1
>
>Faculty H               3                    1                   2
>
>
>Thanks for your help,
>                        John M. Johnston
>
>
  I have no idea, but for this data, intuition indicates that the
second is the winner and the first (left) is the first runner up.  Do I
win the boob prize?


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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:53:49 EDT
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From:         Solomon.Yusim@LAMBADA.OIT.UNC.EDU
Subject:      Re: shooting at Concordia U.
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Admittedly, this has nothing to do with qualitative research, however, yes-
terday, somebody posted a story about a professor at Concordia U., who shot
five of his colleagues, and killed two of them.  Frankly, at first, I thought
that it was a made up story, but it was in the today's paper.

Can anybody provide with more details about the man involved, Valery Fabri-
kant?  Never mind how much of intellectual and scientific fraud is going on
at the universities these days, what could've prompted him to do what he did?

This, coupled with a female intruder shot at the residence of the UC-Berkeley
chancellor, yesterday ...  Some temples of higher learning we have.

SY
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From:         C_DICKER@FAUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: students' perceptions

THere are a few- Peterson and Swing, Winne and Marx, Anderson, Green and
Harker- I assume you have most, but if you need specific references,
let me know.
-Craig Dicker
c_dicker@fauvax
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From:         "jean kantambu latting" <SOCW9V@UHUPVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      making sense out of making sense: the practical

Gary, Don, Michael, etc.

I have been heavily involved with what Yvonna calls end/beginning-of-
the- semester nuttiness.  Finally, I have been able to print out the
discussion on  semiotics and try to digess it.

I want to distinguish between the practical and the theoretical.  Gary,
with  regard to the practical, Mark asked:

>Could you please work through an example of the critical differences
>between how a semotician and a nominalist would go about deciphering or
>constructing reality? Suppose for instance that you find yourself in a 7th
>grade math classroom. What do you look for, what data to you attend to,
>what do you do with it once you have it (or whatever such questions that
>you posit would interest semoticians and nominalists).

Your response was that the semiotician "does not observe phenomena as
strictly facts or opinions, but as answers."  Please say more.  Use
Michael's example of the 7th grade math class.  How would you
approach gathering "answers"?  What would be a hypothetical "answer"
that you might find?

I really want to know the answer to this question, because this is how I
entered the discussion in the first place.  I am still trying to figure out
what is the  difference between what these various qual oriented
people *do*.

I will ask about the theoretical in the next posting.

Thanks,

Jean
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>Please unsubscribe me
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From: lonkila@franz.Helsinki.FI (MARKKU LONKILA (SOSPO))
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Subject: RE: Periodicals
Date: 29 Aug 92 15:13:27 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki, Faculty of Social Sciences

Dear Solomon,

I would like to add the following periodicals to your list:

Qualitative Sociology
Quality & Quantity
Journal of Contemporary Ethnography

I don't follow regularly Review of Educational Research or Educational 
Researcher, but I know that both journals have published articles on 
qualitative research.

Best wishes,

Markku Lonkila
Researcher
University of Helsinki
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From:         JOHNSTONJM@MEMSTVX1.BITNET
Subject:      Addendum to HARE query

 Here is the specific type of problem I need to be able to solve.
Using the information below can anyone explain how the HARE
 system is used to calculate the winner?

Problem:
        The Department of Law contains 8 faculty members.   Three
faculty members, Professors Dewey, Cheatham, and Howe are
running in an election for Department Chair.  Each faculty member
votes by rank ordering their choice 1 - 3.  The votes are presented
below.
        Explain how the HARE procedure is used to determine the
winner of this election.

                        DEWEY     CHEATHAM       HOWE

Faculty A               1                 2                   3

Faculty B               2                  1                   3

Faculty C               3                   2                  1

Faculty D               1                   2                   3

Faculty E               1                   2                    3

Faculty F               3                   1                    2

Faculty G               2                    3                   1

Faculty H               3                    1                   2


Thanks for your help,
                        John M. Johnston
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From:         mhorney@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU
Subject:      Local & Gobal Context
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Alfred Lang,
I would agree that within a very local context, say a specific numerical
system and the culture of its origin, that numbers may be context
invariant. However, I think this totally breaks down in more global
contexts, e.g. the universe of sentient creatures. I don't think adding the
adjective "abstract" helps at all. If, as you suggest, mathematics is
invented, then it is culturally specific. That numbers seem universal is
only a mark of human parochialism, trapped as we are just now in a sample
of 1.

But let me bring this back to the topic of typologies. I suggest that in
this time an place it doesn't really matter in any practical sense whether
mathematics is discovered or invented, or whether somewhere out there is a
culture whose notion of 5-ness is cognitively different than mine. These
things don't matter, just now, because I don't conceive of any way to act
on these differences.

This attitude marks me as a Pragmatist, another in our growing list of
typological categories. I describe myself as such because I find myself
more concerned about the actions of researchers than I am about their
theories; i.e. verbs rather than nouns. This in turn makes it difficult for
me to follow the twists and turns of the recent accounts of concepts such
as structuralism and poststructuralism. Can someone help by describing what
a structuralist researcher does that a poststructuralist doen't and visa
versa?


Mark Horney
School of Education
University of Oregon
Eugene, OR 97403
mhorney@oregon.uoregon.edu
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From:         "Tom Ohlendorf - TSU Admin. DP,
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Subject:      Re: Gee!
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I guess everyone is being ethical.

Tom Ohlendorf, Programmer/Analyst Towson State University
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From:         Woody Weaver <woody@GALILEO.STMARYS-CA.EDU>
Subject:      RE:data bases
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In Message Sun, 30 Aug 1992 16:46:33 EDT,
  JFCOVALE%SUVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu writes:

>In the form it is asked, Woody's question sseems sort of odd: is the EXISTENCE
>of such a data base a good or bad thing?
[..]
>Ethical behavior does not lie in the world; it lies in us as we act
>in the world.  Computers do not invalidate the demands ethical principles
>place upon us; they merely create new circumstances in which those demands
>are made.  Data, like guns, cars, pencils, and just about every other
>product of human ingenuity, can be used toward ends ethical or unethical,
>acording to the will of the individual acting.

Sorry I haven't responded sooner, but I broke my arms in a bicycle
accident, and school has just restarted, so I'm a bit behind.

I would agree that a pencil or a car is ethically neutral.  I think some
guns could be considered ethically dangerous, because certain aspects of
their construction (hunting rifle teflon bullets, for those deer wearing
Kelvar) lead to dangerous uses.

Bill Murray, in his usual sage perspective, addressed half of my concern:
this is inevitable, I suppose, and that it is accessible at a price the
general public can afford rather than only a commercial elite is probably a
useful result.  I refuse to take a stand on its moral value.

I think what concerned me the most was that construction and use of data
collected about people for one purpose then released (commercially!) for
another purpose was done apparently casually.  I am not saying that such a
data base can only be used for useful or harmful purposes -- I am wondering
if the construction itself had ethical value.  I think its construction was
just a little bit brutalizing, just a little bit mechanizing, that people
treat information as something merchantile and not of moral import.

Onward we tread into the brave new world...

I see us in a time like the early '50s.  The atomic bomb has been created,
and used.  Schoolkids have Tommy Turtle teaching them 'duck, and cover'.
(I think the metaphor extended to that "horrible virus menace" might well
be apt.)  We may well be too late; like Oppenheimer, some of us may well be
going through the agony of sudden realization of the consequence of our
actions.  But I think the end result was a maturation in the '60s of
thought concerning atomic energy and atomic warfare, and now our global
society is safer than it has been since nuclear warfare's inception.
Robert Weaver                         office: 510-631-4416
Department of Mathematical Sciences     home: 510-680-1986
St. Mary's College of California         fax: 510-376-4027
Moraga, CA 94575                        data: 510-376-1554
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From:         "DBA at Large Bob Rehak" <A20RFR1@NIU.BITNET>
Subject:      Gee!

Gee, this list sure has become quiet.

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Okay, subject for comment: in the latest issue of Computer Currents, a local
Bay Area computer vendor rag, there was an article that mentioned DAK
industries and their state of affairs under the heading "77 Million Home And
Business Listings On CD".  The article noted (1) DAK is still in business
even though filing for Chapter 11; (DAK expects that resolved by Jan) (2)
they are selling a CD-ROM drive for $199 (personal note: I just received one
as a gift; its an 800ms drive, rather slow, but servicable external) and the
real point (3) the company is offering a CD of white pages telephone
listings of 70 million U.S. residents and a CD yellow pages of over 7
million U.S. businesses -- Phonedisc USC -- for $129.  The article notes if
your business wants to send a mailer to all 75,410 CPAs in the entire US
this disc would allow you to build such a mailing list.  The search engine
allows search by state, city, area code, zip code, and even street.  [I
don't know if this allows reverse telephone listing, but it seems like a
natural function.]

The obvious point: this information was released by telephone users with the
expectation they would be codified into paper and distributed locally, not
stored on CD and distributed to potential junk mail firms.  The obvious
counterpoint is that this is public information, and now the "average guy"
(well, anyone with a free slot in an ISA machine, and $330 for the hardware
and firmware) can track down old friends, do geneology searches, and of
course create customer and supplier databases.

Is this a good thing?  A bad thing?  Or just another inevitable step of no
ethical consequence toward our information society?

Robert Weaver                         office: 510-631-4416
Department of Mathematical Sciences     home: 510-680-1986
St. Mary's College of California         fax: 510-376-4027
Moraga, CA 94575                        data: 510-376-1554
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Subject:      the ethics of mailing lists...
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Does anybody have a pointer to DAK to get the CD-ROMs?  I tried a couple 800
numbers (one given to me by a poster and one by 800-555-1212) but neither
answer.  Maybe they've flamed already.

In general, it's useful drop a bread crumb so folks can pick up the trail
themselves.
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