HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lesvente@irisa.fr (Gilles Lesventes)
Subject: Re: Current .93. and similar stuff...
Reply-To: lesvente@irisa.fr
Organization: IRISA, Rennes, France
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 14:39:41 GMT

>From sol@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (larry carrier)
>Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
>Subject: Re: Current .93. and similar stuff...
>Date: 13 Dec 92 19:30:51 GMT

>and finally, the NWW 'Dadda's intoxication" 7" <anybody have the amount of
>these pressed?> on Clawfist, which also released the killer "loopflesh" <split
>with Loop and Godflesh>...but I don't have an address for them right now...

Clawfist singles were usualy pressed up to 1400 copies. I don't hink that the
NWW was an exception to that rule.



---
Gilles Lesventes 

	"La seule difference entre ce labo et le Titanic est que sur le
	 Titanic, il y avait un orchestre" (Courrier International . 7/5/92)

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: vanlamme@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (VAN LAMMEREN M - ENGLISH)
Subject: Top 92 of '92
Summary: user survey
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 06:24:28 GMT

Top 92 of '92 Survey
     	For the first time ever, the "Touch My Monkey" show 
will be accepting submissions for the Top 92 of '92 from 
anywhere in the world via Email on Usenet.
	The results of this survey will become our playlist 
for as many hours as it takes to play the best 92 releases 
of 1992.
	Normally, we just survey people who live within our 
broadcasting area, but they're not much fun, and always vote 
for Bryan Adams and Tom Cochrane.
	You can now be a part of a broadcast on CKMS 100.3 FM 
that you can never hear!
	However, all respondants will be Emailed a copy of 
the Top 92 of '92, and at the end of their lives, can look 
back on this incredible event with fond remembrances of pride 
mixed with futility.
	Be an insignificant part of history today--respond to 
the "Touch My Monkey" survey.

touchmymonkeytouchmymonkeytouchmymonkey

How to Respond:

1.  Email Mike van Lammeren <vanlamme@watserv1.Uwaterloo.ca> 
with your favourite thiry songs that were released in 1992.

2.  Your list must include the name of the song, the album 
the song appeared on, and the band that released the song.

3.  Your songs must be numbered (1 to 30) and appear in order 
with your most favourite as number 1.

example
      SONG        ALBUM                 BAND
1.  Scrapyard	Last Rights           Skinny Puppy
2.  Kill        Premeditated Murder   Malhavoc
3.  100%        Dirty                 Sonic Youth
etc...

	As an extra special bonus, early respondants may 
provide one question directed towards the members of Pigface 
at an interview we will be conducting on Sunday, December 20, 
1992 in Toronto, Ontario, CANADA.  Any respondants who so 
desire may have the complete text of the interview Emailed to 
them.

	So get those surveys in right away.  History awaits you.

Mike van Lammeren <vanlamme@watserv1.Uwaterloo.ca>
"Get in, get out, and clean up later."

P.S.  Pearljam's "Ten," Nirvana's "Nevermind," and the Red Hot 
Chili Peppers' "Blood Sugar Sex Magik" were all released in 1991.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: torben@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Random Tox)
Subject: Re: Front 242 lp
Organization: The Durex Blender Corporation
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:10:45 GMT

In article <BzCv8u.MqG@dcs.ed.ac.uk> awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford) writes:

>Depends on what your definition of harsh is, doesn't it? If you're familiar
>with Front 242's earlier work, _Tyranny >For You<_ *is* harsh. Remember
>"harsh" can mean a helluva lot of things, depending on the direction you're
>approaching a band from. Their *other* stuff is pretty different (well, if
>you go back beyond _Official Version_ it is anyway) but if you're wanting
>something harsher than _Tyranny_ you're onto a loser, F242's sound gets
>progressively *less* harsh and more melodic the further back you go.

	I bought _Tyranny >For You<_ after reading a brief mention of it
in Factsheet 5, as well as hearing something positive about them somewhere
else. I really loved it, and was totally into F242 for a while, but as you
go backwards, their music gets worse and worse, in my opinion. Not just
more melodic, but sparser and *even tinnier*! (shock! Whoa!)
	At any rate, after getting more into the Industrial scene I found
harsher stuff, which I more or less prefer now. Sometimes, F242 sounds
Techno-ish to me. Tyranny for You is their bestalbum without a doubt.

	People ask me a lot, "What's the difference between Industrial and
techno?" and I usually say its a matter of harshness...  What is the
offical call on this?

	--- Random



-- 
(C) 1992 by Random Tox and The Durex Blender Corporation
All Rights Available at the Door, No Reservations.

	"If this is the place for you, then herd."
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: ogre@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lestat)
Subject: Coil
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:46:06 GMT


Coil - _Stolen and Contaminated Songs_

1) As It Really Is
2) Chaos
3) Who'll Tell
4) Exploding Frogs
5) In The Lost Kingdom
6) Love's Secret Domain (Demo)
7) Nasa - Arab (Live)
8) Who'll Fall
9) Original Scot Song
10) Wrim-Wram-Wrom
11) Oboe Cop
12) Her Friends The Wolves
13) Dark Nova
From: fish@jab.tucson.az.us (david wright)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: looking, searching, and what have you....
Keywords: Hi! Li! Sa! Las! E!
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 06:44:46 MST
Organization: Just Another Bbs. Tucson, AZ

 Sorry to bother everyone again... but remembered some other things I've 
been looking for....  
 
Coil:   Penetralia II 7"
        Wrong Eye Themes
        Anal Staircase 12"
        um.. I messed up... I men't Wrong Eye 7"
 
 Thanks
 Cheers...
 -dave wright
(please respong in mail... )

s
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: rfischer@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Russell Fischer)
Subject: Re: NIN "Fixed"
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:52:10 GMT

wolfie@netcom.com (Cinnamon DeWolf) writes:
>Also, the sample of the guy yelling to let him out, on track 3. Anyone recognize
>that one?

i originally thought that it was bruce campbell from evil dead II, but
on reflection this could be wrong. (if it is him, it's from the bit
where the professor's daughter returns and ash is locked in the
cellar.)

russ fischer


Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: dsargean@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Kettle)
Subject: Re: Front 242 lp
Organization: CPSFS
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:05:35 GMT

In article <BzCv8u.MqG@dcs.ed.ac.uk> awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford) writes:
>And lo, dsargean@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Kettle) spake unto the masses saying:
>>
>> I've just heard "Tyranny For You" (is this the right title?). Reaction-
>> disappointment. I was expecting something harsh. Instead i was confronted
>> with tooooo much tinny synth, and naff drums. I will try and get hold of
>> some of their other stuff but i doubt it will be stunningly different.
>
>Depends on what your definition of harsh is, doesn't it? If you're familiar
>with Front 242's earlier work, _Tyranny >For You<_ *is* harsh. Remember
>"harsh" can mean a helluva lot of things, depending on the direction you're
>approaching a band from. Their *other* stuff is pretty different (well, if
>you go back beyond _Official Version_ it is anyway) but if you're wanting
>something harsher than _Tyranny_ you're onto a loser, F242's sound gets
>progressively *less* harsh and more melodic the further back you go.
>
>And just what's wrong with tinny synth? Although I'd hesitate to describe
>the synth work on _Tyranny_ in this manner, some of us *like* tinny synths,
>the older and cheesier and tinnier-sounding the better.
>
>> Also, why do Ebb,NIN fans etc dance to the pop band The Shamen at
>> alternative disco's?????????????
>
>Well, at a guess I'd say it's as a reaction against mindless stereotyping
>of them by people whose sole aim seems to be to indulge in rather weak and
>pointless flaming. I might, of course, be wrong, since it's always possible
>that your question came from a genuine desire for enlightenment regarding
>the psychology of the typical Nitzer Ebb or NIN fan, rather than because
>you're trying to be provocative and coming across as a bit of a sad case
>instead.
>
>-- 
>			

Oh Al, i am dreadfully sorry if i come across a 'sad case'. It was only
a question you moron. Is it an entry requirement of Scottish Uni's to be
an annoying shit, becasue u fit the bill nicely.
I dont like tinny synth alright - its just my opinion - it reminds
me of Butlins Holiday camps. Your comments on 'Tyranny' were ok, but you
had to drag your arguement down to caveman level on my second question.
It wasnt a flame just an observation. Oh and i was provocative aswell was I?
As a result i am writing this with bleeding wrists - honest.
Thanks for the info Mr Crawford, but as for for the rest of your letter, flame
someone who gives a shit!

Oh and the bloke who wrote in from Cov, (Decker?) it was at The D&T.

Daiman (Cov Uni)
From: malexan@a.cs.okstate.edu (ALEXANDER MICHAEL)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Fixed sample, track 5
Summary: Any clues?
Date: 15 Dec 92 02:28:46 GMT
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater

Anyone know the origin of the sample on track 5 of "Fixed", about 5:25 into
the song?  Its of two apparently female voices, one young, one older, saying
 
Voice 1:  "...I could feel that way too."
Voice 2:  "I'll bet you will someday."
 
Sounds reminiscent of some 60's era tv show.
 
				--msa
-- 
Soon I discovered that this rock thing was true.  Jerry Lee Lewis was the Devil.
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet.  All of a sudden,
I found myself in love with the world, so there was only one thing that I could
do was ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: scupin@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (SCUPIN  JONATHAN RAYMOND)
Subject: Re: SP
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:24:29 GMT

The rob lowe flick was "bad influence". It included the song
"Who's laughing now" from VIVIsectVI.
I heard this summer that there was a limited edition Killing Game
single out, with Very Good B-side(live stuff galore!), and a friend
of mine heard it at a klub a while back, so perhaps it exists...

coprophiliac
scupin@rintintin.colorado.edu
phone sex keeps the drive alive
From: u9236635@sys.uea.ac.uk (R. Szczesniak)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Ministry's latest album title?
Summary: What is it
Keywords: Ministry
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:33:08 GMT
Organization: UEA School of Information Systems, Norwich, UK.

Does anyone know what the literal translation of Ministry's latest album is?
You know - the one beginning with KE......

R Szczesniak
u9236635@oxygen.sys.uea.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: ogre@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lestat)
Subject: High Times with Skinny Puppy
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:32:16 GMT


Did anyone happen to see the latest issue of High Times? There's a pretty
nifty interview in it with cEVIN, Dwayne, and Ogre. It's really
interesting. It's not so much about the music, rather it focuses more on the
aspect of how drugs have affected the band and their music. It seems like
they're particularly fond of marijuana. According to them, every song they
have ever done was done while under the influence of THC. If you haven't
already done so, I highly recommend listening to Skinny Puppy when you're
under the influence of THC. You'll see gOD.
From: cnc@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Christopher Christensen)
Subject: Re: Films with Insanity
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 12 Dec 92 22:54:38 GMT

In article <9212071830@ltrnativ.UUCP> adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP aka
(Adam Mottershead) writes:
>
>Anybody have any other ideas.  I am looking for films which really exhibit
>insanity in violent or very visual means.  But, they do have to be generally
>available, since most video stores in my area, don't carry obscure films.

"EVIL DEAD 2" has some excellent insanity scenes.  Like the scene where
Ash's right hand gets out of control and he has to cut it off with a
chainsaw after impaling it on a knife.. that's when he utters those
immortal words "Who's laughing now?!!" used in Skinny Puppy's song WHO'S
LAUGHING NOW.
Another good scene is the scene after he shot his hand with a shotgun
and the moosehead on the wall starts laughing at him and then all of the
lamps, furniture, etc. in the room laugh at poor Ash.. Pretty soon Ash
just loses it and starts laughing with them.  I've never seen a more
insane movie than Evil Dead 2.

--
|  Christopher  |  Computer Engineering graduate student, UC Irvine  |
|  Christensen  |  cnc@balboa.eng.uci.edu                            |
From: steveh@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (Steven Hayes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: How to get the Shinjuku Thief CD and asking questions...
Date: 15 Dec 92 04:39:16 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, RMIT, Melbourne, Australia

Darrin of Shinjuku Thief asked me to post the following, since there
seems to be some discussion of the band going on here at the moment.

-- Start of Darrin's message

To all people who have responded to Shinjuku Thief

- To write direct:
	S.T.
	PO Box 22
	Glen Waverley
	Victoria 3150
	Australia

- To order direct:
	Playing by Ear
	1244 Mojave Drive
	Colton
	California 92324, U.S.A
	Tel: (714) 824 8749
	Fax: (714) 824 0127

- Demoes, Queries to:
	Extreme
	PO Box 147
	Preston 3072
	Australia
	Fax: 61-3-419 4086

- U.S. Distribution:
	Cargo Records
	3058 N. Clybourn Ave
	Chicago Illinois 60618 U.S.A
	Tel: (312) 935 5683
	Fax: (312) 935 6218

Anyone wanting direct response from the band, list your postal address and
we will keep you informed about forthcoming releases, information, etc...

-- End of Darrin's message

I'm in a position to forward email messages to Shinjuku Thief if anyone
wants to get in touch also. Note that I will not respond to email for
Shinjuku Thief unless I'm in a good mood. Send mail to steveh@rmit.edu.au

Cheers

Steve

-- 
   Steven Hayes                                    |  steveh@rmit.edu.au
   Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology (RMIT)  |  +61 3 660-2693
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: What a joke
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 14:23:16 GMT

In article <a292VB2w165w@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca>, markp@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Mark A. Pitcher) writes:
								- Kevin
 Ogre's voice is exactly matches SP's
|> character. According to a-certain-someone-who-will-remain-nameless,
|> if, let's say, Michael Bolton sang for SP instead of Ogre, SP
|> would be a much better band (God, does that ever send shivers
|> down my spine!) While SP may sell more records, I can't imagine
|> Michael Bolton crooning "Creatures running underground all the
|> cages rusted displayed food bowl empty now fit for the licking",
|> and having it actually mean something.

This is quite possibly the single most horrifying mental picture I
have ever considered.

jds
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: mei172@cch.coventry.ac.uk (guru)
Subject: Re: ministry's latest album t
Organization: Coventry University
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 11:33:28 GMT

In article <199213.2244.4094@dosgate> "wolf kaffer" <wolf.kaffer@canrem.com> writes:
>-> Supposedly, it means "Psalm 69 - The way to suceed and the way to
>-> suck eggs."
>-> When Al was asked about it, he just said it was important that people
>-> knew it was "something 69."  (like book 69, psalm 69, chapter 69.)
>-> It's supposed to be taken from some ancient obscure arabic language.
>
>I was wearing the T-shirt and a guy at work(who's greek) said that it
>meant 'Head', and when you add the 69 that was below it, it makes more
>sense. Especially since it's from Ministry!

guru sez:
	I'm wearing the T-shirt now, and the label on it says "Style-Ministry,
	Psalm 69".

	Just my four penn'orth....

-- 
      /~~~) /   / /~~~) /   /  		I looked into the future,
     (___/ (___/ /     (___/    		now my mind's not right.
        /                      			
   (___/ mei172@cch.cov.ac.uk  	      Meat Beat Manifesto, Euthanasia.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: pmiller1@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Paul S Miller)
Subject: Re: opinions wanted
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 03:58:50 GMT

I haven't heard a few of the bands on your list but if you're looking for Rollins spoken word then pick-up Deep Throat which has the four recently rereleased spoken word albums. It includes extra material. The only hangup is the cost. 40.99.
From: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: SPK recommendations needed
Date: 10 Dec 92 20:56:03 GMT
Reply-To: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI

dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell) writes:
>Ahhhhh...fantastic! Can you run down _which_ SPK releases Mute is putting out
>on CD, or for that matter, what The Grey Area's next batch of stuff-in-general
>is going to be?

Here's a partial list. This being the age after the collapse of the
Modernist/Hierarchial concensys, you the reader may edit and inquire
as you see fit. Quite a lot of this is already out - all the SPK except
for "Auto da Fe", in fact. Just saw it on the racks hereabouts.

This will have to be a partial list. I'm sure Mr. Crawford can 
supply more data

Dome  
	1&2 
	3&4
Duet Emmo - Or so it seems
Wire Document & Eyewitness
Normal/Rental - Live
Leer/Rental - The Bridge
Zoviet France - Retrospective
Can
	Cannibalism 1 (69-74)
	Cannibalism 2 (74-78)
	Cannibalism 3 (solo recordings compiled)
	Unlimited Edition
	Can
	Landed 
	Flow Motion
	Saw Delight
	Can Delay
	Monster Movie
	Soundtracks
	Tago Mago
	Ege Bamyasi
	Future Days
	Soon Over Babaluna
Hafler Trio
	Bang-an open letter
	Alternation, perception and resistance
	Burst & seven hours' sleep
	4 ways of saying 5
	The sea org&brain song
	A thirsty fish
SPK
	Information Overload Unit
	Leichenschrei
	Auto da fe
	Zamia Lehmanni
Einsturzende Neubauten
	Strategies against architecture
	die Hamletmaschine

I didn't type in the entire Cabaret Voltaire or Throbbing Gristle
discography. Suffice it to say that there's quite a bit of it either
out or coming out.

--
The law moves quickly in the rain/and chokes the world with memorials./The
courts accept the lowest superstition/into evidence. And we embrace quickly in
the rain,/conceiving a hale infant with hands to wrinkle/the bedsheets toward
it, wave by trough by wave./Gregory Taylor/Heurikon /Madison, WI/608-828-3385
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:51:57 -0500 
From: Joseph Velardi <jv14+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: What a joke


Matt Crotch writes:

> >Ogre?  Best voice?  Oh please.  My cat could do better.
> >Best voice:  Bjork from the Sugarcubes.

> Sugarcubes.. now _that's_ industrial!

Go back and look at the list, pal
Since when were Soundgarden and Mudhoney considered "industrial?"
Or ninety percent of the bands on that list, for that matter?
Someone should de-magnetize that steel plate in your head.


Joe
From: GFCARDINALE@poppy.ucdavis.edu (GEOGORY F. CARDINALE)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Wanted:  Info on Esplendor Geometrico
Date: 14 Dec 92 07:22:51 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

Greetings.

I have been searching in the Northern Cal. area (mostly Sacramento and SF) for
anything by Esplendor Geometrico.  I would appreciate it if anyone has any
information on them such as how many albums or 12" (or CDs/CD singles) they
have out, or if anybody is interested in selling/trading some EG products.
Please reply via e-mail.  Thank you.

Greg C.
gfcardinale@ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: mason@netcom.com (Mason Jones)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Info on Esplendor Geometrico
Organization: Charnel House
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:33:11 GMT

dkletter@adobe.com (SUGAR in their vitamins?) writes:
: mason@netcom.com (Mason Jones) writes:
: >That is their only CD thus far, released on the Daft label from
: >Germany (run by Dirk Ivens from the Klinik and Dive).
: 
: are you sure of this? i could swear i've seen another CD of theirs
: on that Italian label Musica Maxima (Vasilisk and Ordo Equium Eso or
: somesuch is on that label also).
: 
: i guess i'd better go dig up some zines and see if i saw that right...

You didn't. ;-)  MMM hasn't released any Esplendor Geometrico.
Vasilisk, Ordo Equitum Solis, Raksha Mancham, etc but no EG I'm
afraid.  The CD was a surprise to me actually, since EG has broken
up as far as I know.  Possibly a posthumous release.


<====================================================================>
   Mason Jones               Charnel House Productions
   mason@netcom.com          P.O. Box 170277, San Francisco, CA
                             94117-0277    Phone/fax (415) 255-8554
<====================================================================>
From: markp@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Mark A. Pitcher)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: What a joke
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 12:44:00 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: darkpark

jv14+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joseph Velardi) writes:

> 
> Mark Sphincter babbles:
> 
> > Joseph Velardi writes:
> > >       [Bjork vs. Ogre argument deleted]
> > >
> > > If you can tell Ogre's voice apart from Sasha Konietzko's or Bill
> > > Leeb's, you can probably hear my fingers hitting the keys as I type this.
> >  
> >         Are you typing with a sledgehammer? You're hurting my ears, dork.
> 
> Sure, you like Ogre's uninspired mumblings since they bolster what
> little testosterone you have.  Grr.  Growl.  Hack.  Are you erect yet?
> 
> Your problem is obvious:  you suffer from acute cranial-rectal
> implantation.  Any two-bit blockhead with some effects equipment could
> beat Ogre at his own game.  But when it comes to recognizing God-given
> talent, the only thing you have a clear view of is your large intestine.
>  You and others like you give true justice to the word Sad.
> 
> Joe
>     "The view is much nicer out here."


	How unbelievably stupid are you? You post a message
saying that some pop-wannabe band is "better" than SP on RMI,
then get offended if anyone flames you.

	Did your daddy let you use his usenet account again? I
expect more maturity from fourteen-year-olds, dork.

	You win my vote for stupid-post-of-the-month. Feel
proud, it takes a hell-of-an idiot to get this award.


	Dork.


------------------------------------------------------------------darkpark BBS
markp@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Mark A. Pitcher)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: fish@jab.tucson.az.us (david wright)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Sub Rosa
Keywords: ...
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 19:11:21 MST
Organization: Just Another Bbs. Tucson, AZ

 Can anyone give me the mailing list for Sub Rosa(the label) ?
 
 I need a catalog.
 
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