From: slf@netcom.com (Sharon Fisher)
Newsgroups: alt.hypnosis
Subject: Re: George Clark Proposes Silencing Friday re NLP
Date: 12 Dec 92 18:39:35 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

friday@netcom.com (Carol Anne Ogdin) writes:

[George says]

>>This NLP zealot who sometimes goes by the name Sharon, and at other
>>logins goes by the name Friday, has already been ejected by ridicule
>>from both sci.med and sci.psych. As a last resort, she's trying to
>>practice her sorcery here in alt.hypnosis.

>1.  George still can't figure out reality from his own fiction:  Sharon
>    and I aren't the same person, George.  

>2.  I haven't *ever* been in sci.med or sci.psych, so I can't respond to
>    your claims that I've been "ejected by ridicule" from either.

I haven't, either.  Perhaps we're actually *three* people, Carol?  And
it's actually that *other* person who was 'ejected by ridicule'?

>However, I will respond to your challenge and make a proposal:  

>A.  Let's put an end to this silly flame-war; it wastes valuable bandwidth.

>B.  Let the participants of this newsgroup vote on it:  Either George stops
>    posting anti-NLP diatribes, or Friday stops providing NLP information.

Does that mean all the other NLP proponents would have to stop
providing it as well?

>    I propose the following procedure:
>        i.  We both stop the nastiness during the voting period.
>       ii.  Other alt.hypnosis readers will have one week to post a follow-
>            up to this message that says, either:
>                "I want to hear more about NLP from Friday"  or
>                "I want to hear more anti-NLP stuff from George"

Actually, my guess is that the winner will be "I don't want to hear
*any* NLP stuff from *anybody*.  I wanted to hear about hypnosis, you
know, the 'you are getting sleepy' stuff."

>      iii.  On Sunday, December 20th, you count up how many "more from Friday"
>            and "more from George" votes there are, and we behave accordingly.
>       iv.  If the vote count is in favor of your claim, above, that "we
>            lay this hen to rest," I will agree to abide by the alt.hypnosis
>            participants' and no longer post NLP-related information.  Are
>            you man enough to agree to cease your anti-NLP diatribes if the
>            vote is NOT in your favor?
>        v.  Further, I am aware of the variety of methods that can be used
>            to "stuff" this kind of ballot box, and I will not solicit votes
>            from anyone.  (In fact, since you have this hallucination that
>            Sharon Fisher and I are the same person, I offer that we not even
>            count any vote from her).  Are you willing to abide by the same
>            rules?

Hey.  You didn't ask *me* about this not counting my vote business.
:-)

You know, my understanding is that it's not that difficult to create
an alt. newsgroup; perhaps the solution is to create an alt.nlp, and
then the people interested in NLP can discuss it there, and the people
interested in hypnosis-without-NLP (since hypnosis is a fundamental
part of NLP, as far as I know) can discuss it here.
Newsgroups: alt.hypnosis