HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: harp@martha.utcc.utk.edu (harp)
Subject: Re: ftp'ing CICA host problems..
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:25:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.002848.4726@colorado.edu> kamil@alumni.cs.colorado.edu (Kamil Maheshwari) writes:
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>Hi,
>
>I tried to ftp to ftp.cica.indiana.edu several times and I either
>get refused connection because of too many open ftp connections
>to that host or something else. What I wanted to get from there is
>the VWFRUN.ZIP files and some demo AVI files. 
>    ^^^^^^^^^^
>Could someone just uuencode these files and send it to me at the
>e-mail address below, please. Or, is there a mirror for  CICA host
>which may be better behaved..
>

There is a mirror at wuarchive.wustl.edu in /systems/msdos/win3

I guess Cica has been overrun and none of the uploads have been filed for
months.  I think they have shut the site down to clean it up.

Sean Harp
University of Tennessee
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: downs@helios.nevada.edu (Lamont Downs)
Subject: Re: Is MS Access worth buying
Organization: UNLV
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:28:28 GMT

>I was wondering what people really thought of MS's Access for Windows?
>Is it worth the 89-99 dollars now?
>What about upgrades and costs?
>Should I buy now, with low price and hope to have a better product
>later with an upgrade?

It all depends. What do you want to use it for?

I've been using it to maintain a database of videotapes/laserdisks, compact 
disks, house belongings, and similar around-the-house sorts of things. It's 
fun and easy to use (IMHO) and has been very reliable (i.e., hasn't crashed 
Windows or lost records). I was able to import a Clarion Personal Developer 
database (converted to dBASE III format) without a hitch. And speaking of 
Clarion, MicroSoft's documentation is worlds better (they're learning!). If 
you're migrating a huge dBASE database or something else heavy-duty I don't 
know how well it would hold up; maybe one of the DBMS types out there can 
describe some experiences.

Lamont Downs
downs@helios.nevada.edu
From: jkim@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: help: "internal stack overflows" problem
Date: 20 Jan 93 13:26:15 GMT

Hi there
When I type win for using windows 3.1, sometimes the screen stuck and it shows
like :   internal stack overflows
         system halts
What can I avoid this problem?
Please help me.
Thanks in advance
  JKIM@ECS.UMASS.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: pschneid@rzu.unizh.ch ()
Subject: Excel 4.0 Out of Memory/Preview
Organization: Computer Centre, University of Zurich
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:40:10 GMT

A friend of mine with no Net access asked me about a problem with
Excel 4.0 to which I have no answer since i'm not a windows techie:
  Quite often when he tries to do a print preview of a multi-page
worksheet containing some diagrams, he gets an "out of memory"
message (it is German "Ungenugender Speicherplatz) when he wants
to look at another page. It is really annoying, because after the
first time he asked me I just told him to get more memory. He
now has 8 MB of RAM in a 386DX, 40Mhz, running windows 3.1 with
Excel as the sole application. System resources are usu 75% free
when the error occurs, there is also more than 12 MB free on disk.
  The thing that really gets me is that the d*mn error message
doesn't even say what kind of memory is affected, ie if disk, RAM or
system resources.
  Did anybody make the same sort of experiences with Excel? Are
there some settings to be adjusted (I know that on the macintosh
you can alter the size of a memory partition)?

Any kind of help is appreciated.

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From: rft@ssd.intel.com (Roy Touzeau)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Convert files W4W <=> Appleworks ????
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:47:14 GMT
Reply-To: rft@ssd.intel.com (Roy Touzeau)
Organization: Intel Supercomputer Systems Division, Beaverton, Oregon, USA

I would like to convert files written by Word for Windows (Windows 3.1)
into files digestable by Appleworks 2gs 1.1 and retain the formating 
and vis-versa. (I know I can exchange by converting to plain text 
but then I loose the formating information.)
-- 
Roy F. Touzeau
rft@ssd.intel.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: phade@cs.tu-berlin.de (Frank Gadegast)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: How to start GSWIN.ZIP ?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 14:03:48 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: cent.cs.tu-berlin.de

Hi,

Like to start GSWIN.ZIP (that's ghostscript for Windows !).
Got the archive, unpack, started it and got the message,
that a inizilization-file is missing, the viewer terminated then.
straight ahead ... <:o(

Does somebody got it work ?
Is there a file missing ?
How's the syntax to call the program ? (I guessed: GSWIN.EXE bla.ps, wrong ?)
Anu clues ?

PLEASE REPLY BY E-MAIL !!
=========================

Thnx in advance, Phade
 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: rcbear@beauty (Rupert C. Young)
Subject: Re: A fast graphics card for Windows
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:20:14 GMT

|In article <ushomirs.727919171@spot.Colorado.EDU> from [Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:46:11 GMT]
| you wrote:I am planning on getting a new graphics card for my PC and am looking for some
|advice.  My requirements are:
|	1) Card must be fast
|	2) At least 32K colors in 1024x768
|	3) Would prefer an EISA version if it is faster
|	4) Preferably under $1000
|	5) At least 256 color drivers for Win NT
|Is there such a thing?  I have an ALR 486/33 with 16MB of RAM.
|
|I have looked at ATI Graphics Ultra Pro and it satisfies all requirements.  
|Nevertheless, before I shell out the money I would like to consider alternative
|
|Thanks for any replies
|Greg.

You probably want to consider the new Diamond Viper VLB board.  It is claimed to be
over twice as fast as the ATI Ultra Pro and should run you a bit over $420 for the
2 MEG configuration.  You will probably need more memory to run 32k at 1024x768.

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: helge@itek.norut.no (Helge Wulff)
Subject: Network distributed software
Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Organization: FORUT IT AS, Norway
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:20:43 GMT

I am looking for an application (Windows or DOS) which can install and
update software across a network (like NetDistributor Pro for Mac).

Is there a PD or commercial product somewhere?

Helge
From: chris@visionware.co.uk (Chris Davies)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: X-Windows and MS-Windows coexist?
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:17:15 GMT
Organization: VisionWare Ltd., Leeds, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Marc F Pucci (marc@breeze.bellcore.com) wrote:
> I just started using it [XVision] and it seems OK.  It has 2 basic
> modes: one that uses a local window manager (fast) and one that use a
> remote one (I use vtwm).

I presume you're using XVision with its XRemote supplement?  This works
considerably faster than PPP/SLIP over serial lines.

> All I really wanted was to get multiple windows
> across my serial line connection to work; X is overkill, but it works.

We have a sister product, PC-Connect, which does this far more
efficiently than X.  You may want to call us for information
(info@visionware.co.uk)

: The one thing I can't do is get the middle mouse button to
: work on my ATI GraphicsUltra mouse.  Turning off 'middle button emulation'
: didn't fix it.  Any guesses?

I'm not part of the XVision team so I can't answer this off-hand,
sorry.  Try calling technical support (or email support@visionware.co.uk).

US Phone number - 415 325-2113
US Fax number   - 415 325-8710

Chris
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: floydb@rpi.edu
Subject: Excel and RAM limits (was: Excel 4 Users Beware !)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:50:56 GMT

In article <1jpkb1INN4k1@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn) writes:
>
>aew@eosvcr.wimsey.bc.ca (Alan Walford) writes:
>>I thought the Workbook concept was really useful. So I started to 
>>use it and create bound worksheets.
>>After I hit about 20 worksheets (for a relatively small financial
>>model) things started to get weird. It complains alot about not
>>enough memory. It starts drawing things incorrectly and it has
>>trouble saving the workbook in a reasonable amount of time.
>
>You might give Quattro Pro for Windows a try. (plug plug) Its notebook
>support is far ahead of excels workbooks.  (It uses a lot of gdi too --
>but perhaps not as badly as excel in this case.)  I think QPW is on a $99
>"deal" right now.  
>
>-- 
>The Wailer at the Gates of Dawn              | banshee@cats.UCSC.EDU       |
>Just who ARE you calling a FROOFROO Head?    |                             |
>DoD#0667  "Just a friend of the beast."      | banshee@ucscb.UCSC.EDU      |
>2,3,5,7,13,17,19,31,61,89,107,127,521,607....| banshee@ucscb.BITNET        |


You might consider spending $150 - $200 on a 4M SIMM upgrade. We have no
problems with 4M RAMM installed on '386 and '486 systems. 8M RAM increases
performance and takes care of most 'memory limits'.

For an extra $50 (vs $99 new software) you solve your problem and increase
the speed of operation.

barry

ps
 
I tend to be put off by inflammatory subject lines. If you are interested
in bitching about life, that's your choice. If you are interested in solving
a problem with Excel, restating your subject lines would go a long way
towards that goal (e.g. HELP! "Not enough memory" errors in Excel 4.0)

2 cents

bbf

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: kamil@alumni.cs.colorado.edu (Kamil Maheshwari)
Subject: AVI player ; installation can't find DISPLAY.DRV ??
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:42:19 GMT

I need help in installing the AVI player on my 486 PC. As far as the hardware
I have VGA card, and 486 CPU, color monitor etc. I tried to install the vfwrun
player and it complains about not being able to find DISPLAY.DRV I couldn't a
file with this name in the vfwrun.zip archive.	     ^^^^^^^^^^^

Does anyone know what may be happening wrong. I am running DOS 5.0

thanks a lot in advance. kamil@alumni.cs.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: joew@dcatlas.dot.gov (Joe Wagner)
Subject: Re: ProcommPlus for Windows questions...
Reply-To: Joe Wagner <dcatlas!joew@uunet.uu.net>
 Organization: NHTSA Data Center, Washington, D.C., USA
Organization: U.S Dept. of Transportation
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:43:06 GMT

kotsines@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Tom Kotsines) writes:

>In article <1jpepj$2jq@agate.berkeley.edu> alsu@ocf.berkeley.edu (Alan Su) writes:
>>(2) Here's an easy one...I want to increase the scrollback buffer size.  I
>>have gone through the Window-Setup-Terminal(Advanced) diaglog box and set
>>the number of pageto be 50.  It informs me that this requires 473K of
>>memory.  (I'm using the VT220 emulation.)  This should be no problem (I
>>think).  But I'm still getting noticably less than 50 pages...or even 20
>>pages worth of scrollback.  What am I doing wrong?  (I've RTFM but it just
>>tels me to change the number of pages and all will be well...not.)

>I have this problem too, but it informs me in the bottom status line that 
>"Only 19 of the 99 requested scrollback pages could be allocated".  I've got
>8 megs RAM, I'm not sure why it won't use any more of it. I tried changing
>the PIF settings but to no avail.

I had this problem and I called Datastorm tech support and they said that 
19 pages was the limit for now.  It apparently is some internal limit because
I've got 16 megs RAM.  Anyway it is really annoying, especially if you're 
trying to save on phone bill charges by scrolling past file listings.

                                                            Joe

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
From: timbol@netcom.com (Mike Timbol)
Subject: Re: 7 Re: Win NT's "bad looks"
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:41:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.000128.19347@wam.umd.edu> rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari) writes:
>In article <1993Jan23.202438.23204@netcom.com> timbol@netcom.com (Mike Timbol) writes:
>>It was mentioned in some magazine somewhere that NDW for NT is scheduled
>>form 3rd quarter this year.
>
>
>	I kind of like that, "from 3rd quarter".. I suppose this is when
>	advertising starts.  Hey, cool--honesty in advertising.

Oops, that was a typo on my part.  I meant "NDW for NT is scheduled *for*
3rd quarter this year".  Although some honesty in advertising would be nice
once in a while!

     - Mike
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: Ralf.Wirth@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Ralf Wirth)
Subject: Re: The sin of MicroSoft
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:44:09 GMT

If you think that more than 4 gigs of mem will be needed in 10 Years, and 
OS/2 is not be able to manage it now, I tell you that there will be just
a new complete OS or an update of OS/2 then, which will be able to manage it.


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From: palmer@pcatsc.UUCP (Doug Palmer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Class A and Class B devices at home
Summary: Switched up standards.... Must be com.os.ms-windows.advocacy...
Date: 23 Jan 93 03:13:11 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: United States Courts (pcatsc)

In article <1993Jan20.174659.1246@cmkrnl.com> jeh@cmkrnl.com writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.112151.1316@yvax.byu.edu>,
> feijai@endor.byu.edu (Sean Luke) writes:
>> The NeXT does not have Class A certification because it is expensive and  
>> difficult to obtain, not because the NeXT isn't a Class A - quality machine.   
>> The NeXT is VERY low-interference, from my experience, compared to a great  
>> deal of PCs and Macs.  Much of this is because of its magnesium shell,  
>> high-tech power supply, and simple electronics design.
>> 
>> Unfortunately, this still means you can't have a NeXT in your house...unless 
>> you just do it anyway.  :)
>
>As I understand it, this isn't quite how it works:
>
>Using a Class B computing device in a residence is in no way illegal -- unless
>it generates unacceptable interference to someone else's radio or tv reception.
> In that case the operator of the Class B computing device can be required by
>the FCC to either cease using the equipment or make adjustments to eliminate
>the interference. 
>
>Using a class A device, otoh, means that even if your equipment causes an
>unacceptable level of interference in a neighbor's reception, it isn't up to
>you to fix it, because the RFI generated by the device has been shown to be at
>an acceptable level for residences.  In that case the owner of the tv or radio
>has to do the fixing (reorient the receiving antenna, get a better set, etc.).
>
>(This assumes that you are using the equipment in its configuration "as
>approved" -- covers in place, shielded cables, etc.  Class A acceptance is
>*very* iffy for computers; even if you buy a "Class A" computer, connecting,
>say, an external disk drive to it will likely make it lose "Class A" status,
>unless the particular disk drive *and* connecting cable were tested as a system
>with that computer, and the whole assembly passed the "Class A" requirements.) 

Y'all have your classes mixed up -- Class B is a more strict standard than
Class A.  Even given that, if your Class B device causes interference with
local common carriers, you do have an obligation to fix the problem.

-- 

United States Courts                                         Doug Palmer
Automated Training & Support Center
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
From: craigdo@microsoft.com (Craig Dowell)
Subject: Re: 0 Re: The sin of MicroSoft
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:18:13 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

>Yes, but let's remember the difference between virtual memory which
>is effectively the address space of the machine, and physical
>memory which is the space one has to run programs.  This in effect,
>provides multitasking, such as it is in Windows.

What the %*&@ is this supposed to mean?
From: ifbb657@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: comp.os.nt
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:04:54 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
NNTP-Posting-Host: emx.cc.utexas.edu


I'm game also.  I would like this.

-- 
       ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu  (Douglas Floyd)
       Disclaimer:  I speak for myself        Please, no NeXTMail at this time.

Windows NT:  You either use it on your job or you do not HAVE a job.  NOT!
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Windows Crashes...
From: jonathon.twigg@oosight.status.gen.nz (Jonathon Twigg) 
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:54:00 GMT
Reply-To: jonathon.twigg@oosight.status.gen.nz (Jonathon Twigg) 
Distribution: world
Organization: OUT OF SIGHT BBS, Auckland, New Zealand, 64-9-298-3805

On the 01-19-93, Rsl11@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu wrote to All about Windows 
Crashes....


R>
R>	I am using windows 3.1 and I get a lot of 
R>crashes and it gives me the error:
R>System Haulted...Memory Parity Error 
R>Detected.....When I decrease the amount
R>of disk cache I use for windows applications 
R>the crashes do not occur that often.
R>I have 8MB of memory, 386SX 16MHz. I have 
R>1024KB=1MB cache for windows...If I
R>use 2MB then the crashes are 
R>inevitable...This is with the smartdrive 3.13 
R>version.


 Try using version 4 of smartdrive and check to see if your memory is 
secure.

     Jonathon.

--- WinQwk 2.0 #0
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Class A and Class B devices at home
From: feijai@endor.byu.edu (Sean Luke)
Date: 23 Jan 93 15:24:39 -0700
Reply-To: sean@digaudio.byu.edu

In article <jcmorris.727623616@mwunix>  writes:
>jeh@cmkrnl.com writes:
>
>>In article <1993Jan20.112151.1316@yvax.byu.edu>,
>> feijai@endor.byu.edu (Sean Luke) writes:
>>> The NeXT does not have Class A certification because it is expensive and
>>> difficult to obtain, not because the NeXT isn't a Class A - quality  
machine.

>Um...you've got the definitions of classes A and B reversed.  A class A
>device is intended for business/industrial environments.  Class B
>certification permits use in a residential area. 

Thanks.  Blew it there.  Anyway, the NeXT is pretty clean, from my  
experience.

--

Sean Luke
Brigham Young University                   MILK:  It Comes From Cows
sean@digaudio.byu.edu  
NeXTmail and nifty Mac stuff welcome
From: scott@opl.com (Scott Evernden)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Win NT's "bad looks"
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:48:22 GMT
Organization: OPL., Inc.

In article <1993Jan19.183643.12939@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) writes:
>A Microsoft employee recently commented -- in one of the NeXT forums,  
>oddly enough -- that Microsoft was planning to make significant changes to  
>the Windows interface in a "future release" to bring it more up to par  
>with the better interfaces now found in other GUI's.  I can't be more  
>specific; he wasn't either.  I'd post the article, but it has expired from  
>my news server.

I suspect he/she was talking about was the new Excel-style 3d controls which
are already available (uunet- 3-31.zip _somewhere_ under vendor/microsoft)
I've heard rumors that these will be "built in" to future Windows version.

-scott
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
From: zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: 0 Re: The sin of MicroSoft
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:12:42 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.234851.8882@schbbs.mot.com>, R12997@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Rick Heider) writes:
...
>>>d 64 terabytes?!  That's *7* orders of magnitude above today.
>>>'re looking at the end of the 21st century here.
> 

Ah hem, may I point out that 2001 is now less than 8 years away. MessyDog has
been around longer ( and smells like it ).

Good digital images CURRENTLY run 780 odd MB each. Have 2, as original and work
copy and thats 3GB with no code. This will increase, in fact the resolution of
these digitizations is not yet high enough to do the highest quality work. A
factor of 64-1024 increase should do it. That could be the end of your TB.

Why don't you just hard code in a 640MB limit. :-)

~Paul

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: omega2@eng.umd.edu (Wilbur S. Peng)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Class A and Class B devices at home
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:35:30 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity von Uniland, College Park
NNTP-Posting-Host: modulation.eng.umd.edu
Originator: omega2@modulation.eng.umd.edu


Uhhh I think you want it the other way around.  Class A gives off potentially more
RF interference, while Class B is certified for home use.
From: storm@cs.mcgill.ca (Marc Wandschneider)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: 7 Re: Win NT's "bad looks"
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:13:57 GMT
Organization: SOCS - McGill University, Montreal, Canada

In article <1993Jan24.000128.19347@wam.umd.edu> rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari) writes:
>
>	I did note that WP4WIN's interface buttons (the up+down selectors)
>	look a lot like those found on NeXTStep 2.1, but the rest of the
>	interface is downright superior to the NeXT version of Wordperfect.
>
>	<which is both buggy and lousy-interfaced... >

	One of the neat things about WP for the NeXTs is that the only reason
it exists is because Steve Jobs offered them 400,000$ to port it.  I doubt
that it will ever go much further than WP for the Amiga.

	Toodlepip!
	Marc 'em.
-- 
  storm@cs.mcgill.ca           McGill P.O.W Camp         "Oh crap---It's not
  Marc Wandschneider           Montreal, CANADA             random enough"
	Any opinions expressed are not mine, but those of the Demon Lord
      Yeegeheeegenogohugu who possessed me whilst I munched on Raisin Bran.