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From: choy@dvinci.USask.Ca (Henry Choy)
Newsgroups: sci.engr
Subject: Jobs are available in Hong Kong
Date: 6 Jan 1993 22:59:24 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
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I have heard that engineers in Hong Kong can find a job they like in 1
week.

--

Henry Choy
choy@cs.usask.ca
From: bernhart@wbkst5.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de (Wolfgang Bernhart)
Newsgroups: sci.engr
Subject: Design Advisor Software
Date: 5 Jan 1993 19:32:29 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
Distribution: world
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Keywords: CAD Design

I'am going to prepare an overview of design advisory software
used in companies.
This could be for exmple

Design for Assembly - Tools (DFA)
Design for Manufacturing - Tools (DFM)

or special tools for production purposes or to evaluate the design
of a product to its consequences to environment (e.g. Design for
Recyclability).

If anyone can give me

Adresses of 
- users of such software systems or
- developers

or could tell me about experiences with those software in daily
work

Please mail, fax or call me:

Wolfgang Bernhart
Univ. Karlsruhe / Germany
Institute of Machine Tools and Production Science (wbk)
Kaiserstr.12 D-7500 Karlsruhe 1

E-MAIL: bernhart@wbkst5.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de
FAX:  (49) 721 699153
Phone:(49) 721 6084289

Thanks !,

Wolfgang
From: slmdj@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: sci.engr
Subject: Re: Engineering College
Date: 7 Jan 93 10:59:41 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <726341101.AA00025@eilc.fidonet>, Chad.Armstrong@f52.n357.z1.fidonet.org (Chad Armstrong) writes:
>   I'm going to be entering college soon and I'm wondering what everyones
>   opionions of some Colleges out there are as far as engineering goes..
>   I'm thinking about AeroSpace engineering, but I don't know enought to
>   really say.. I'm looking for a good college to go to for an
>   engineering degree..  Oh, and ya, money is a big factor..  Ive heard
>   CalTech is good???
> 
> Thanks a bunch..  ANY ideas welcome!
> 
> Chad
> \//->
> 
> ... Reality is for people who can't cope with science fiction.  
>   Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 
> 
>  * Origin: Osten Ard *phantom14.4k (503)258-3612 (1:357/52)

Although I might be somewhat partial to this school, I do think rather highly
of many of the engineering programs... Aerospace & electrical in particular
have _many_opportunities at Utah State University, as we are affiliated with USAF and NASA
on many design projects such as CIRRIS, the Tethered satellite experiment
(recent), and many other programs, a majority of which were developed here... 
In fact, USU has had more experiments aboard the Shuttle than any other
University!  On campus, we also have the Space Dynamics Lab which is
responsible for IR sensor design, and hybrid rocket motor designs with help
from the local Thiokol corporation (maker of the Shuttle's SRB's)  Besides,
tuition is low! :-)  Any questions, E-mail me and I'll try to help.

Good luck!
-- 
********************************************************************************
      Paul Cowley      * ----looking for one of those spiffy quotations for my
   ==EE Undergrad==    * .sig...  Any Suggestions???
 Utah State University *
  C/A1C  CAP Utah Wing *
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From: curran@pegasus.hks.com (Bill Mills-Curran)
Newsgroups: sci.engr
Subject: Re: RESPONSE ABAQUS performance?
Date: 4 Jan 1993 18:51:13 GMT
Organization: Hibbitt, Karlsson & Sorensen, Inc.
Distribution: world
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In article <1993Jan4.152549.5202@rd.hydro.on.ca>, morandin@rd.hydro.on.ca (Greg Morandin) writes:
|> Your problem is one that we have come across continually. We use to run ABAQUS
|> on a VAX/VMS and currently have it available on a Decstation 5000 for UNIX.
|> Fortunately we have our own in-house Finite Element code which overcomes all the problems of ABAQUS. It has been difficult to persuade people around here to 
|> stop using ABAQUS. Some of our clients were trying to solve large deformation
|> problems and found that ABAQUS would not work. Good Luck!!
|> 
|> These are strictly my personal opinions and not the opinions of tis corporation.

There have been improvements to the VMS I/O in version 5.2, so you may
want to give it a try.  In addition, the convergence controls are
greatly modified, so that more problems can be solved.

-- 
Bill Mills-Curran (curran@hks.com)
Hibbitt, Karlsson & Sorensen, Inc.	Tel: 401-727-4200
1080 Main St., Pawtucket, RI 02860	Fax: 401-727-4208
From: spang@calstatela.edu (Sue P.)
Newsgroups: sci.engr
Subject: Resume Book
Date: 5 Jan 93 05:55:51 GMT
Reply-To: spang@calstatela.edu
Organization: Cal State University, Los Angeles


Hi,
I'm a member of the IEEE student section at Cal State University of L.A. 
I'm currently putting together a Resume Book of CE, EE, ME and Technology 
students for companies to view.  Due to the hardship of job hunting, I hope
this is a good idea.  The Resume Book should be complete some time in 
February during Engineering Week.  If you think you company is interested, 
please email to me at: spang@mars.calstatela.edu

Please include the contact person and email address, company name 
and physical address, phone number if you would like.

Thanks for your time,
Sue Pang
IEEE officer
From: gann@violet.ccit.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: sci.archaeology
Subject: Re: Early history of dragons
Summary: Big Lizards
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:58:30 GMT
Followup-To: sci.archaeology
Distribution: world,local
Nntp-Posting-User: gann

In article <LEET.93Jan6083905@ibis.ims.com>, leet@ims.com (Lee Thomas) writes:
>
> 
> There is some evidence which would suggest that large saurian creatures
> existed contemporaneous with humans - primarily, cave art.  If so (*IF*!!),
> it is possible that dragon legends are merely embellished factual stories.
> Consider primitive man's first encounter with a Komodo dragon, for example.
  I'd say YIKES! and run like hell :)
> Lee Thomas,  leet@ims.com      | 


    Hmmmmm, interesting point for indonesians, but I dont remember any
evidence for large saurian creatures existing elsewhere (in human history at
least).  Be that as it may you do have a valid point.  Inflation of normal
creatures to fantastic size would seem to be a fairly normal trend in
legend-crafting. Next question...What sort of lizards live in europe :)

Doug Gann
Gann @CCIT.Arizona.edu
From: karl_best@novell.com (Karl Best)
Newsgroups: sci.archaeology
Subject: Re: The Taj Mahal is a Hindu Temple
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:08:02 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.

Didn't we see these same posts a few months ago? I seem to recall a lot of  
inconclusive bashing back and forth that ended only as everyone got sick and  
tired of the discussion. 

--
Karl Best                              Far away, across the field
Novell Tech Pubs           ...  __o    the tolling of the iron bell
Provo, Utah  801-429-3428 ..   -\<,    draws the faithful to their knees
kbest@doc.novell.com      ...(_)/(_).  to hear the softly spoken magic spell
karl_best@novell.com                      -Roger Waters, Pink Floyd
Newsgroups: sci.archaeology,soc.culture.china
From: dchapman@well.sf.ca.us (Dave Chapman)
Subject: Re: Ancient Chinese Deep-Drilling Technology ???
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 07:30:38 GMT

In article <72722@cup.portal.com> mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson) writes:
>
>It is alleged that as early as 221 B.C. the ancient Chinese were
>using percussion drilling to dig wells as deep as 3,500 feet, a depth
>only equalled in U.S. oilfield practice in the late 19th century, also
>using percussion drilling.  (Percussion drilling consists of using a
>heavy drill suspended down the hole on a rope or cable, and raising
>and dropping the drill.  The flutes of the drill cause it to turn on
>impact.)

Does anyone know what the heck they were drilling for?
Artesian wells might be attractive, but brine might have been
worth drilling for also.

-dave

Newsgroups: sci.archaeology
From: edstrom@Elmer.hsc.ucalgary.ca (John Edstrom)
Subject: Q re Robert Graves
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 20:26:19 GMT
Organization: Neuroscience Division, U of Calgary School of Medicine, Calgary, Alberta, Canada

an interested but naive outsider's question about Robert Graves' book
"The White Goddess":

I'm generally interested in mythology and am reading RG's book.  Its
interesting and ingenious but I'm curious about how its regarded by
the pros.  Is Graves considered a crank or are his ideas taken
somewhat seriously?

John Edstrom | edstrom @ elmer.hsc.ucalgary.ca


--
 RM 2104, HSc Building,  Div. Neuroscience
 U. Calgary School of Medicine,  3330 Hospital Drive NW
 Calgary, Alberta       T2N 3Y4
 (403) 220 4493  (wk)
Newsgroups: sci.archaeology
From: woody@knapper.cactus.org (Woody Baker)
Newsgroups: sci.archaeology
Subject: drilling
Date: 7 Jan 1993 06:01:31 -0600
Organization: Aurora Contracting
Reply-To: "Woody Baker" <woody@knapper.cactus.org>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

That is indeed a good question "what were they drilling for".
they didn't have pumps that could pump that deep.
Cheers
Woody
-- 
Woody Baker Postscript consultant/Flint knapper  512-837-8317 (Austin, Tx)

"If you ain't bleedin' you ain't knappin'" ---> go ahead, ask me...

woody@knapper.cactus.org
woody@chinacat.unicom.com (temporary) is forwareded to woody@knapper
From: mt90dac@brunel.ac.uk (Del Cotter)
Newsgroups: sci.archaeology
Subject: Re: Roman Nails
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:59:27 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK

In article <C0FvyK.9y5@Novell.COM> karl_best@novell.com (Karl Best) writes:
>In article <C0ED9o.14u@brunel.ac.uk> mt90dac@brunel.ac.uk (Del Cotter) writes:
>>   it consisted of 763,840 small, 85,128 
>>   medium, 25,008 large and 1344 extra-
>>   large iron nails.  The small ones were
>
>Somebody actually counted them?
>
I imagine so... makes me glad I'm a materials scientist :-)

If they were standard enough and in good enough condition, I
suppose they could have been separated and weighed.  Still, it
would have been a mammoth task.  Who gets these rotten jobs,
anyway?  The undergrads?  Same as mats. sci., after all...
-- 
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From: higham@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: sci.archaeology
Subject: Re: Restoration of Mexican Ruins
Date: 12 Jan 93 12:11:27 +1300
Followup-To: sci.archaeology
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <rbkatz-070193123617@128.96.93.74>, rbkatz@cc.bellcore.com (Bob Katz) writes:
> In December, I had the chance to visit a few archeological sites in Mexico,
> including Teotihuacan and Monte Alban.  Although restoration on these sites
> began a long time ago, the work is continuing, particularly at Monte Alban.
>  I was told by someone who grew up near Monte Alban that the restored area
> is now much larger than it had been a few years ago.
> 
> Climbing the ruins and watching some restoration work at Monte Alban raised
> several questions in my mind about exactly how the restoration work in
> Mexico is managed and about what steps are taken to ensure that the
> restored structures are like the original ones.  Here are a couple of
> observations.
> 

I visited Teotihuacan and noticed the large areas of reconstructed site. The
builders seem to have 'mottled' the effect by placing what I suppose are
original bricks/boulders within the new matrix of concrete. The Pyramid of the
sun is a good example, the whole thing is basically rebuilt. Old pictures of
the pyramid show it was in poor shape and was nothing like it is today in terms
of its soundness. I doubt if it changes the experience for many tourists
though. The majority that were there when I visited were intent on getting to
the top as fast as possible, having a sunbathe on the top and seeing who could
spit the furthest off it. A bit disappointing but when you have x-10000
visitors per year tramping over it, I suppose a little modern concrete comes in
handy. As the volume of tourists increases so will the monuments be   forced to
close or restrict, or just rebuild! I can see the day when you won't be allowed
to go and walk up to and touch monuments, etc, maybe you'll take a trip to the
reproduction down the road :^)
-- 
Tom Higham,                    
Radiocarbon Dating Lab,
University of Waikato,
Hamilton,
NEW ZEALAND.
Higham@waikato.ac.nz /
C14@waikato.ac.nz
From: jlove@ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu (Jack Love)
Newsgroups: sci.archaeology
Subject: Re: First city and longest continuously inhabited city?
Date: 5 Jan 1993 15:29:04 GMT
Organization: /usr/local/trn/lib/organization
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In article <C0Ct9s.DC4@imag.fr> oueichek@gram (Ibaa Oueichek) writes:
> Sorry to barge in, but i have a simple question:
>   * How credible is the bible from a historical point of view ?. I'm speaking
>   about the OT, which seems to contain several contradictions with other 
>   historical sources (take for example the story of the Pharaon which seems
>   to be in complete contradiction with Egyptian historians ).
>
>   PS : I'm not historian, neither a Bible basher, just wondering.
>
>  BTW, i didn't follow the thread from the beginning, but i believe that the
>  oldest city continuously inhabited is Aleppo in Syria, which was built in 
>  1780 B.C, it was the capitol of the Yamhad kingdom.

On the last point, Jericho is usually assigned this distinction because
there is a fairly complete archaeological record going back 8000 years
to 6000 BCE or so. Like so much else in academia, this is subject to
some quibbling, but that's what makes it fun.

As far as your main question is concerned, it all depends on your
definition of "credible." If you are asking whether the Bible is
"credible" on questions based on a particular kind of literal 
reading such as the Creation story(ies), the Flood(s), etc. then
my answer would have to be "not very credible." But if you
acknowledge that the Bible is a collection of many sources including
folklore, theological history, poetry, etc. then it is no less
credible than any other ancient sources. The problem with establishing
"credibility" lies in the fact that there are some who, out of
religious devotion, demand a level of respect for the text that far
exceeds the requirements placed on other material. On the other
hand, there are ultra-skeptics (some of whom are guilty of an 
equally religious motivation) who oddly apply the same criteria
so that they can say, "since the sun cannot stand still for a 
day, therefore the Bible cannot be trusted..."

For those of us between the extremes, the Bible represents a
rich source of material which must be understood in its own
terms, by careful placement within context, and with full 
exploration of its biases.

Hope this helps.
-- 
________________________________________
Jack F. Love	| 	Opinions expressed are mine alone.
		|	(Unless you happen to agree.)
Newsgroups: sci.archaeology
From: fskanes@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: summer digs??
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:56:11 GMT

A while back someone posted an answer to a query concerning a directory
of summer digs and projects. Does anyine know where I can order this from.
                                      fskanes
                                      dept. of anthropology
                                      memorial u. of nfld
                                      st. john's nfld
                                      a1c 5s7
                                      fskanes @kean.ucs.mun.ca
From: jlove@ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu (Jack Love)
Newsgroups: sci.archaeology
Subject: Re: Jerico
Date: 4 Jan 1993 18:38:40 GMT
Organization: /usr/local/trn/lib/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu

In article <By8swB1w165w@netlink.cts.com> rcf@netlink.cts.com (Bob Forsythe) writes:
>     I'm a bit confused by this discussion.  It's been a *few* years 
>since I was in school, but I can recall learning that the city in 
>question was named "Jerico" simply because the large walls surrounding it 
>reminded the original researcher of the Biblical story, not because of 
>any evidence found on site that the city was ever named "Jerico".  Has 
>that changed in the last 20 or so years?

I think that it is actually quite rare for a site to be identified
based on written evidence that the inhabitants called the place by
the name we have in mind. Sitting at my office desk I don't have
recourse to the reference works that might inform me as to how
the current archaeological site of "Jericho" might have come by
its identification. However, regardless of whether there was such
an original identification, the point that I made some time ago is
that the nature of the beast is somewhat shifty (literally). A 
city is founded. It is partially destroyed. Another city grows 
up partially on the old grounds, partially on new, taking the name
from the original. The city is destroyed or abondoned. Another city
is established a short distance away and takes the name of its 
famous neighbor. That place is destroyed, etc. etc. etc. Modern
archaeologists now try to sort out which site (if any) is 
associated with historical records. Sometimes they are fairly
successful (e.g. Lachish), other times, not. Is the current
tel the one that was occupied in the period of the Israelite
conquest (if there was a conquest)? I'm not sure. I keep hoping
that someone on the net might be better informed than I on this
topic.

I doubt I've cleared up your confusion since I remain confused 
myself. But perhaps there's a good reason for all the confusion...

-- 
________________________________________
Jack F. Love	| 	Opinions expressed are mine alone.
		|	(Unless you happen to agree.)
From: mt90dac@brunel.ac.uk (Del Cotter)
Newsgroups: sci.archaeology
Subject: Dragons and giants from fossil finds?
Date: 12 Jan 93 12:58:57 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK

In article <1993Jan11.181148.642@acc.com> art@acc.com (Art Berggreen) writes:
> 
>I have often heard it speculated that one of the sources of dragon mythology,
>was an attempt to explain Dinosaur fossils which were found in Eastern Asia.
>It has also been claimed that such finds in Europe helped create stories
>about giants.

A church (I forget which one) in the City of London in the 17th C. used to
display in its entrance a dinosaur bone as evidence for 'giants in the earth',
with a human thighbone for comparison.
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Newsgroups: sci.archaeology
From: wagener@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Pamela Pincha-Wagener)
Subject: Re: MacPottery
Organization: Boeing Computer Services
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:27:15 GMT

your-email-addr@a1.mscf.upenn.edu (Jesse Goldman) writes:

>I recently saw a program for the Mac to teach form and history of Chinese,
>Japanese and Korean Pottery.  Where can I find it again?

I'd like information on this also.
Thanks,
Pam Pincha-Wagener
wagener@bcstec.boeing.com
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Newsgroups: sci.archaeology
From: stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini)
Subject: Re: Early history of dragons
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Distribution: world,local
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:36:25 GMT

Does the Greek word in the Illiad that is translated into "dragon" have that meaning in Greek?
English has words that are similar in meaning to dragon- monster, dinosaur, Leviathon, etc.- but really aren't.
Newsgroups: sci.archaeology
From: gardner_c@apollo.hp.com (Cal Gardner)
Subject: Re: Jerico
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:37:53 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1ia07gINN6kl@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> jlove@ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu (Jack Love) writes:
>In article <By8swB1w165w@netlink.cts.com> rcf@netlink.cts.com (Bob Forsythe) writes:
>>     I'm a bit confused by this discussion.  It's been a *few* years 
>>since I was in school, but I can recall learning that the city in 
>>question was named "Jerico" simply because the large walls surrounding it 
>>reminded the original researcher of the Biblical story, not because of 
>>any evidence found on site that the city was ever named "Jerico".  Has 
>>that changed in the last 20 or so years?
>
>I think that it is actually quite rare for a site to be identified
>based on written evidence that the inhabitants called the place by
>the name we have in mind. Sitting at my office desk I don't have
>recourse to the reference works that might inform me as to how
>the current archaeological site of "Jericho" might have come by
>its identification. However, regardless of whether there was such
>an original identification, the point that I made some time ago is
>that the nature of the beast is somewhat shifty (literally). A 
>city is founded. It is partially destroyed. Another city grows 
>up partially on the old grounds, partially on new, taking the name
>from the original. The city is destroyed or abondoned. Another city
>is established a short distance away and takes the name of its 
>famous neighbor. That place is destroyed, etc. etc. etc. Modern
>archaeologists now try to sort out which site (if any) is 
>associated with historical records. Sometimes they are fairly
>successful (e.g. Lachish), other times, not. Is the current
>tel the one that was occupied in the period of the Israelite
>conquest (if there was a conquest)? I'm not sure. I keep hoping
>that someone on the net might be better informed than I on this
>topic.
>
>I doubt I've cleared up your confusion since I remain confused 
>myself. But perhaps there's a good reason for all the confusion...
>
>-- 
>________________________________________
>Jack F. Love	| 	Opinions expressed are mine alone.
>		|	(Unless you happen to agree.)


As a modern illustration, I think that only some 150 years ago
Yakima, WA was some 20 miles away from its present location. That
is the site once called Yakima changed its name and a new location
adopted the abandoned name.

Cal gardner_c@apollo.hp.com
Newsgroups: sci.archaeology
Subject: Jerico
From: rcf@netlink.cts.com (Bob Forsythe)
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 08:35:46 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

     I'm a bit confused by this discussion.  It's been a *few* years 
since I was in school, but I can recall learning that the city in 
question was named "Jerico" simply because the large walls surrounding it 
reminded the original researcher of the Biblical story, not because of 
any evidence found on site that the city was ever named "Jerico".  Has 
that changed in the last 20 or so years?

-Bob

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