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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 16:45:40 EST
From:         KNEFF@LEAR.SINCLAIR.EDU
Subject: re: An Introductory Guide to Information Providers
Comments: To: CWIS-L@WUVMD.Wustl.Edu

On the topic of public-access kiosks, I would be very interested
to hear about experiences with various software tools for building
multimedia kiosk applications.  In particular, has anyone used
either ToolBook or IBM's AVC for kiosk applications?  Thanks.

Katy Neff
Sinclair Community College
Dayton, Ohio
kneff@lear.sinclair.edu
voice 513/449-4591
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:19:08 EST
From:         Richard W Wiggins <RWWMAINT@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Updated list of CWISs you can try out
              9 Nov 1992 17:32:08 EST from <hallman@GIBBS.OIT.UNC.EDU>

>I've updated the list of services you can connect to via Internet. Please
>note that the directory path has changed -- we added another level, cwis.
>We can put other cwis information of interest in this directory. (Sunsite,
>the ftp host, is a new service provided by Sun and operated by UNC-CH for
>"providing education software, shareware, and other useful electronic
>materials.")
>
>The first part of the file with instructions for ftping it is included
>below.
>
>If you see anything that needs to be fixed or if you would like me to
>e-mail a copy of the file to you, please let me know ASAP. I'm leaving
>town Friday morning for a 10-day vacation.
>
>Judy Hallman

Judy,

Do you update this list by scanning the net yourself, or is there a form
that CWIS administrators are supposed to send to you? At first I noticed
that gopher.msu.edu is absent, but now I see that many if not most of
the leading university Gophers do not appear on the list (assuming I'm
looking at the right file). A list of CWISes must include central
Gophers in order to be complete.

If your method is he former, you might want to go through the list of
all Gophers in North America (or the world) and add the ones you see. If
the latter, you might post your survey on comp.infosystems.gopher in
order that administrators might reply to you. We might be able to round
up some volunteer assistance from Gopherdom if you need it.

/Rich Wiggins, Gopher Coordinator, Michigan State U
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From:         "(Johnson K. Kuma)" <cfjkk@UX1.CTS.EIU.EDU>
Subject: Re: SUBSCRIBE CWIS-L Johnson Kuma
              Nov 5, 92 12:55 pm

I would like to subscribe to Campus wide Information Systems group
Thanks.
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 11:01:52 EST
From:         "(Judy Hallman)" <hallman@GIBBS.OIT.UNC.EDU>
Subject:      UNC-CH Info database searchable from WAIS
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              support@uncvx1.oit.unc.edu, rtpfreenet@gibbs.oit.unc.edu

To cwis-l, pacs-l, ncvtx-l, resource-discussion, support, and
rtpfreenet lists:

UNC-CH Info data searchable from WAIS

Much of the information in the UNC-Chapel Hill campus-wide information
system (called Info) is now searchable using WAIS (Wide-Area Information
Server). You can try it out using UNC's LaUNCpad system (formerly the
BBS). Telnet to laUNChpad.unc.edu. For "username" type launch. When you
get laUNChpad's menu, select item 4, "Topical document search (WAIS)."
Type /unc and press return. If your cursor is not on unc-ch-info, move
your cursor to it. Press the space bar to select that item. Type "w". For
keywords, I suggest you type "art history". Press return. You should get a
list of documents. The top item is the section on the Department of Art
from the Undergraduate Bulletin. Press the return key to see that section.
Type "q" to quit viewing that item.  To view other documents, just move
your cursor to the item you want to see and press the return key. For
example, to see the information on art history courses you can take by
correspondence, look at item number 5, which is from the Independent
Studies catalog.

The items currently searchable using WAIS are the sections of the Info
database that do not change often. We'll tackle the dynamic areas, like
job postings, after Christmas.

Judy Hallman, UNC-CH Office of Information Technology
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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1992 09:41:40 PST
From:         copeland@SFU.CA
Subject: Re: Developing a CSIW: issues and policy questions
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              "CWIS-L@WUVMD.Wustl.Edu" at Nov 6, 92 11:30 am

I'll fax you our committee's TErms of Reference. I chair this committee.
--
Lynn Copeland,                        e-mail: Lynn_Copeland@sfu.ca
Mgr. Library Systems,                 v-mail: 604-291-5861
Simon Fraser University               FAX:    604-291-4908
Burnaby, B.C., Canada. V5A 1S2        ENVOY:  L.COPELAND
From: copeland@SFU.CA
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Subject: Terms of Reference
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:58:45 GMT
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Since I received a number of requests for the Terms of Reference of
our CWIS committee, I am sending them to the list:
-----
Simon Fraser University
Subcommittee on the Campus-Wide Information System (CWIS)
Terms of Reference

The Subcommittee on CWIS is a subcommittee of the Academic Computing
Services Committee with responsibilities relating to the Campus-Wide
Information System maintained by Academic Computing Services.

Membership:

1. A minimum of one member each of the Academic Computing Services
Committee, Committee on Research Computing, and Committee on
Instructional Computing, appointed by the respective committees.
2. An advisory member from Academic Computing Services, appointed by
the Director, Academic Computing Services. This member has a voice but
no vote.
3. One member of Faculty who is not a member of ACSC, COIC or CORC.
4. One staff member who is not a member of ACSC, COIC or CORC.
5. One student member to be appointed by the Student Society.
6. Additional members chosen to provide a balance of representation
from the University community, to be determined by ACSC.

The committee will select a chair from among its members and will
report to ACSC regularly on its activities.

Charge:

1. Establishing and reviewing policy and procedure for the operation
of the CWIS.
2. Maintaining liaison with representatives of Academic Computing
Services on the operation of CWIS.
3. Maintaining liaison with the providers of information contained in
CWIS.
4. Determining regulations governing access to and fair use of
information contained in CWIS.
5. Determining standards of legality and propriety for the content and
purpose of information contained in CWIS.
6. Approving format and interface requirements for the display of and
access to information in CWIS.
7. Establishing regulations to protect the security of information
stored in CWIS.
--
Lynn Copeland,                        e-mail: Lynn_Copeland@sfu.ca
Mgr. Library Systems,                 v-mail: 604-291-5861
Simon Fraser University               FAX:    604-291-4908
Burnaby, B.C., Canada. V5A 1S2        ENVOY:  L.COPELAND
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:27:35 CST
From:         Kim Granquist <KGRANQU3@UA1VM.BITNET>
Subject:      Index for CWIS

I am a student at the University of Alabama School of Library Science and
would like to find out what kind of indexing services are available for a
CWIS.  I understand that some CWISs are now using a WAIS package to index.
Can that be used in conjunction with other CWIS packages?  Please direct all
correspondence to me at kgranqu3@ua1vm.  Thank you.
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 09:53:47 EST
From:         Richard W Wiggins <RWWMAINT@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Privacy in use of a CWIS
              12 Nov 1992 09:57:10 GMT from <C.K.Work@SOUTHAMPTON.AC.UK>

Our management is keenly concerned about privacy of access to
CWIS data.  We have instituted a policy requiring sanitization
of Gopher logs so that we cannot track specific access to documents.
We do this by lopping off the most specific part of the caller's
domain name / IP address.  We do feel it is important to keep
usage logs, so we can measure the accessibility of documents.

It should be easy to make a case for privacy.  Libraries have long
had strict standards on records of who checks out what materials.
Several years ago in the US a Federal agency asked major university
research libraries to track which materials were being accessed by
foreign nationals; they were roundly rebuffed.

In the case of CWIS data, one can easily imagine scenarios where
analysis of what documents a user tends to read would reveal a
great deal about the individual.  (The same issue needs to be raised
w/r/t Usenet News access logs, whether delivered via a CWIS or via
standard news feed methods.)

Probably over time we're going to end up with items in our CWISes
that are charged for on a per-access basis -- "900 number" documents --
and in that case specific accounting records will have to be kept.
Users should understand the record keeping policies up front.

/Rich Wiggins, Gopher Coordinator, Michigan State U
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:51:13 GMT
From:         "C.K.Work" <C.K.Work@SOUTHAMPTON.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Justification for CWIS
Comments: To: CWIS-L@WUVMD.Wustl.Edu

>
> In response to Karl Bridges,
>    The little I know about CWIS's suggests to me that developing a
> CWIS is a way of making information accessible in machine-readable or
> networkable form, which might not otherwise be available that way. A
group
> has been building a gopher, and our systems librarian suggested the other
> day that since any gopher could talk to any other gopher invisibly, the
> kind of information on CWIS could be delivered by individual gophers all
> over campus--to other gophers on campus, or anywhere else.
>    But I just wonder how many of the units that might be in a
> position to supply cwis-able information--schedules of events, notices
of
> meetings, whatever--would be in a position to "gopher-ize" that
> information themselves. Perhaps someday, but it might be that the way to
> package a CWIS right now is as a way-station on the path to a network
> where information is exchanged desktop-to-desktop, with little in the way
> of "central" information services.
>    Good luck.
>
> --
> FROM - Charles Forrest           VOICE  404-727-0137
>        Woodruff Library            FAX  404-727-0805
>        Emory University         BITNET  libcgf@emoryu1
>        Atlanta, GA   30322    INTERNET  libcgf@unix.cc.emory.edu
>

It's not just a matter of ability to gopherize, but also willingness -
while a 'distributed CWIS' might be the ideal, it does entail people
putting in the effort - do the various units have the effort to spare
(never mind the technical capability). My own feeling is that CWIS
development has to go through an 'evangelistic' phase in which the service
is centralised and attempts to get as many people 'hooked' as possible -
 one way of doing this is by being able to put an info-provider's stuff on-
line in whatever form it happens to be in - even if this means scanning
hardcopy. Once the concept of a CWIS has been proved, and you have brought
about a minor cultural change in your institution, THEN you can say 'look
people, there is a better way of doing this'.  Going in cold with a new
concept which entails additional workload on other people risks generating
resentment and poor cooperation.

Colin K. Work
Uni. of Southampton Computing Services
C.K.WORK@SOUTHAMPTON.AC.UK
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 08:35:20 -0700
From:         TLOFTUS@PIMACC.PIMA.EDU
Subject:      Re: Kiosk Plans
Comments: To: CWIS-L@WUVMD.Wustl.Edu

>Do any of you with functioning public kiosks have construction
>plans or blueprints you'd be willing to share?  Thanks.
>
>Art

The Touchscreen Kiosks we've fielded (3 at the moment with 12 more
planned) are housed in re-cycled 'kiosks' from an advertising group
in Canada.  We obtained these boxes & printers after they were used
in a local supermarket chain.  They did fit our immediate $$$ need.  The
kiosks are about 6-7 feet tall with adjustable oven like racks to hold
a tower, printer & terminal with room for a cd or tape player.  In addition
there's a lockable cabinent for a tv monitor atop the unit.  We also
picked up our printers, Magnetec, along with the kiosks.

The drawbacks on this type of kiosk is that the screen slot is not adjustable
and can cause paralax problems when using the touchscreen.  Since these were
made for a market there's been no design consideration for those in
wheelchairs or who would have difficultly in using a touchscreen.

We do have a fellow here who's sketched out a few ideas for 'desktop'
kiosks that would be fairly easy to build.  No real 'blueprints' of sorts
but a good enough idea to get started on.  In fact anyone with woodworking
skills and graphic arts knowledge could produce a limited run of a kiosks
for a fairly low cost. If anyone's interested I'll talk to him about
expanding on this theme.

--terry
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:48:13 CST
From:         Don Riley <drriley@MAILBOX.MAIL.UMN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Justification for CWIS
Comments: To: CWIS-L@WUVMD.Wustl.Edu

In message <199211102159.AA24426@mail.unet.umn.edu> "Campus-Wide Information
Systems" writes:
> >	But I just wonder how many of the units that might be in a
> >position to supply cwis-able information--schedules of events, notices of
> >meetings, whatever--would be in a position to "gopher-ize" that
> >information themselves. Perhaps someday, but it might be that the way to
> >package a CWIS right now is as a way-station on the path to a network
> >where information is exchanged desktop-to-desktop, with little in the way
> >of "central" information services.
> >	Good luck.
> >--
> >FROM - Charles Forrest           VOICE  404-727-0137
> >       Woodruff Library            FAX  404-727-0805
> >       Emory University         BITNET  libcgf@emoryu1
> >       Atlanta, GA   30322    INTERNET  libcgf@unix.cc.emory.edu
>
> In fact, this is what a gopher server on the back end of a
> Macintosh can do today.  So it is possible to publish a local
> CWIS, and connect to others everywhere with gopher.
>
> Steve Cook, Computing Coordinator
> College of Letters and Science, UC Santa Barbara
> Santa Barbara,  CA  93106
> cook@bluemoon.ucsb.edu   805 893-4753

Exactly.  PLUS one of the beauties of Gopher is that Gopherizing is fairly
simple to accomplish.  You do not have to be a computer whiz to gopherize.  That
is one of the reasons why it has caught on so fast.

___________________________________________________________________________
Don Riley   <drriley@mailbox.mail.umn.edu>  Ph:(612) 626-9816  FAX:624-3814
Acting Assoc. Provost for Academic Affairs, Computer & Information Svcs
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:19:00 EDT
From:         JONESEL@APPSTATE.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Anonymous/free access to info

                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     13-Nov-1992 08:11am EST
                                        From:     Ernest Jones
                                                  JONESEL
                                        Dept:     CAMS
                                        Tel No:   704 262 6276

TO:  VMSMail User _IN%"CWIS-L             ( _IN%"CWIS-L@WUVMD.BITNET" )


Subject: RE: Anonymous/free access to info

Our CWIS is open and we feel this is appropriate.  We have encouraged
offices to make information available in this manner to readh people
who are not computer oriented through public terminals.  Some of these
terminals located in public locations have been completely supported
by this office, while some offices have borne the expense of the
hardware, communications wiring and terminal stands.  We don,t charge
the faculty and staff for the weekly newsletter distributed in
hardcopy and we don.t charge the students for a copy of the student
newspaper because these provide information that everyone should have
or at least have the choice of getting the information.

We had 83,000 pages accessed in September and 79,000 in October so
there is an interest in the information on the system and much of the
information is supportive of University processes of registration,
library use, intramural sports.

We do know how many accesses we have to pages and we know how many of
those pages were accessed from public terminals.  But, as in the
library, there should not be a process that would allow anyone to find
out what people are accessing.

Ernest L. Jones, Director                 JONESEL@APPSTATE.BITNET
Computer and Management Services          JONESEL@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU
Appalachian State University              Phone: 704 262-6276
Boone, NC  28608
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Subject: Re: Justification for CWIS
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:43:35 GMT
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In response to Colin Work's comment....

>
>..............................................My own feeling is that CWIS
>development has to go through an 'evangelistic' phase in which the service
>is centralised and attempts to get as many people 'hooked' as possible -
> one way of doing this is by being able to put an info-provider's stuff on-
>line in whatever form it happens to be in - even if this means scanning
>hardcopy. Once the concept of a CWIS has been proved, and you have brought
>about a minor cultural change in your institution, THEN you can say 'look
>people, there is a better way of doing this'.  Going in cold with a new
>concept which entails additional workload on other people risks generating
>resentment and poor cooperation.
>
>Colin K. Work
>Uni. of Southampton Computing Services
>C.K.WORK@SOUTHAMPTON.AC.UK

Colin,

  Great comment!  We're currently in an 'evangelistic' phase and seeing
  better results then when we tried 'conversion by the sword'.  We have
  a disciple of 'info' who quietly works with and recruits our Provider's.
  She nurtures them along until they're ready to fly on their own.  We also
  found that by placing a Provider's Editor area within the CWIS has also
  increased their willingness to contribute or rather participate in the
  grand adventure.

  Thanks again for your comment on an ever so common problem.

--terry
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From: SJC@UVMVM.BITNET (Steve Cavrak)
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Subject: The Gopher Universe: Was Justification for CWIS
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:41:50 GMT
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---    Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:55:56 PST
---    From: "(Steve Cook x4753)" <cook@bluemoon.HUB.UCSB.EDU>
---    Subject:      Re: Justification for CWIS

       In fact, this is what a gopher server on the back end of a
       Macintosh can do today.  So it is possible to publish a local
       CWIS, and connect to others everywhere with gopher.

       Steve Cook; College of Letters and Science; UC Santa Barbara

--- From:  Shyela Aberman <litbu741@vader.cc.emory.edu>
--- Date:  Wed, 11 Nov 1992  12:30:28 EST

    Or, to put in a more interesting way, I on my Macintosh Plus
    (hypothetical, as I'm on an SE/30) could connect to, oh, say
    Tokyo University and peruse some of their papers on quantum
    physics, at the same time searching through Harvard's name
    server (or program of comparable function) for that guy named
    Smith I met last year at the Conference in Boulder, etc.

    Sounds kind of like an Apple, Inc. commercial I saw a while
    ago...all it takes is more CWIS's....and more bandwidth.

    Shy Aberman
    (litbu741@vader.cc.emory.edu)

---
I think it's more convoluted -- while you are reading the papers
on quantum mechanics on that machine in Tokyo, your colleague in
St. Martins is viewing meeting notes you are editing stored in another
folder in your SE.

Yes, Gopher does contain a lot of the ideas presented in the Apple
Knowledge Navigator commercial.  Or in Ted Nelson's The Literary
Machine.

In this model, the network is desktop-to-desktop, or notebook-to-
notebook, or pocket organizer to pocket organizer.  It leads to a
shift from Campus Wide INFORMATION SYSTEMS to CAMPUS WIDE Information
System.  Everybody becomes an information provider; every desk
becoms a file server.

Ciao
Steve
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 10:15:58 PPET
From:         "(Lillian Beltaos)" <beltaos@SANDNC.STFX.CA>
Subject:      Re: Impoverished.
Comments: To: "Campus-Wide Information Systems" <CWIS-L@wuvmd.wustl.edu>

I too would be interested in the document....thanks....Lillian

=====================================================
>Is there a document I could ftp or fetch from a listserv that
>is a basic guide to all those and some others I've heard
>about here (WAIS, and others)?  Maybe even a guide of how to
>go about answering the questions in the Hunt (not the answers,
>but how to find them).
=====================================================
Lillian D. Beltaos                              e-mail: Beltaos@sandnc.stfx.ca
Director of Libraries                         voice:                    902 867
 2267
St. Francis Xavier University            fax:                       902 867 2334
Antigonish, NS, B2G 1C0
From: hallman@GIBBS.OIT.UNC.EDU ((Judy Hallman))
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Subject: Re: Talk on CWIS
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:45:14 GMT
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              "AEMH1%VAXA.YORK.AC.UK@WUVMD.Wustl.Edu" at Nov 3, 92 11:09 am

I recently sent some postings to CWIS-L that might be helpful.
  Judy Hallman