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From: pstrem@the-flea.East.Sun.COM (Paul Strem)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Jae Lee
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:44:22 GMT
Reply-To: pstrem@the-flea.East.Sun.COM
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In article 22978@galaxy.ucr.edu, zeus@watserv.ucr.edu (Zeus) writes:
> Marlene S Prokop writes
> -->
> -->	Just thought I'd give my $0.02 on Jae Lee's art in the
> -->X-Factor...
> -->
> -->	IMHO that was some nasty art!
> 
> Well, in general I agree with ya - but the kid has some shining moments - not  
> only that but he's only 19.  So I guess there is room for improvement.
> 
> Personally, I would like to hear what some of the Namor fans think of him.   
> Also wouldn't he be better off doing some title such as Sandman or Doom  
> Patrol....
>
> chris

	What a great concept!  Yes, I do think that his artwork would 
be better suited to a kind of gothic-horror type setting (look at the 
work he did on the 'pirate' fishing  trawler in Namor).  I personally 
like his pencils; highly stylized but still distinct.  However, I also 
agree that his work on this issue of X-Factor did look pretty poor.
  
	Was it the inking or just rush job?




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				The Flea   / \^.
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From: barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Uncanny #295
Date: 13 Oct 92 10:28:36 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <8epSHRm00iV0Q4ssQe@andrew.cmu.edu>, mk56+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael J. Keating) writes:
> The part with Jubillee at the beginning was really kind of nice.  She's
> a great source of comic relief, along with Guido.  I can just picture
> her making jokes about Shatterstar's mother.  I kind of wish they would
> have printed it....

Personally, I liked that the joke was left unsaid, bacause what she
said probably wasn't all that funny ("Your mother wears combat boots"
or something to that effect).  Especially with Lobdell writing it.
 
> Okay, how can anyone deny that Stryfe, at least, is Nathan Summers? 
> That scene with Jean all but proves it.  His references to a baby being
> taken from security and poked and terrified by machines has got to be a
> reference to Nathan's capture and subsequent torture by Apocalypse. 
> Also, when she asked "Why have you done this to me?" he says, "I was
> about to ask the same of you."  A little bit bitter, eh?  He must blame
> X-Factor for his past.  Who else could he blame?  They were supposed to
> have been protecting him!

Ah, something I agree with!  But I'm curious to know what happened in
the gap between this issue and the last in X-Cutioner's Song.  What
happened to Sinister?  Why did he go to all the trouble of breaking
into the Mansion when he could have just sent a fax?  :+)
 
> I can't believe that Wolverine and Bishop practically invaded Canada. 
> With Val's position in the government, I find it hard to believe that
> the only way to retrieve those records was to storm the place.  (I know,
> I know, how else could they be expected to meet up with Cable?)

Personally, I liked this part (you might remember I'm the one who
nuked Canada in alt.comics.LNH and generally has it in for Canada) 
:+).
 
> I realize that the X-Cutioners Song still has another issue of Uncanny
> in it, but does anyone have any clue what the power-that-be have in mind
> for the big upcoming issue?  (It'll be issue 300 in March.)

I think it will involve the Luna/Acolytes crossover with AVENGERS.
 
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From: uplink@cwis.unomaha.edu (John M. Scheibeler)
Subject: Re: Uplink (was THE CLAREMONT FILES)
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:21:06 GMT

scostain@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Sean Edward Costain) writes:

>>ANYBODY SAY ANYTHING AGAINST DRIZZT?!?!  I'LL KILL'EM!! LEMME AT'EM!!  GRRR!!
>>Really, I agree with SCAV.  If you don't have anything non-insulting to write,
>>well then keep your comments to yourself.  
>>							The Man(A Loyal Fan)
>>Keep the Faith readers of the 'Children of the Atom'!
>>					-Fred @ UB

>	What can I say....I agreee, you shouldn't insult guys like Drizzt,
>he is cool...From what I can gather. I like his posts. So keep it clean
>Uplink. And if you wish to flame me feel free. ;-)


>		Dae Aini

	Oh boy.  The name is "uplink", small u, I don't acknowledge
anything else much.

And as many say, "All flames cheerfully ignored."
From: schmidt2@scws2.harvard.edu (Gary Schmidt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Lebeau (Gambit)
Date: 8 Oct 92 02:24:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: scws2.schmidt2.718511070

rglass@pcs.cnu.edu (Randall Glass) writes:


> 3: In the upcoming Gambit miniseries (which WILL guest-star
>    Rogue) will be written by Howard Mackie (???!, i'll give
>    H.M. credit for the Gambit dialect, from _Ghost_Rider_)
>    and illustrated by Lee Weeks (?!?!?!?! he drew a horrible
>    Marvel3 card of gambit).

		
	Just for the sake of trivia, has anyone noticed that the Marvel3
card of Gambit lists his real name as "Remy Beaudreaux" instead of R. Lebeau?
Could this just be a mistake (probably) or is there a chance for yet another
plot twist? ("You see, Gambit is a time traveler, and in our reality he's
Lebeau, but in an alternate reality, he's Nathan Summers" ... 8^)

							-G. (no sig)
From: jwlr@escher.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Alex & Lorna, or a very Sinister child....
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:59:23 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

jng53092@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Gad) writes:

>>But then *why* was he so please when Alex took a shot at Malice in San
>>Francisco?

>Ummm... I don't recall SINISTER caring all that much one way or another, but 
>MALICE was thrilled about it.  (I assume you're talking about that bit where
>Polaris/Malice is flying away from Alcatraz, and she's daring Alex to blow 
>her from the sky, And then goes away laughing when the bolt bounces off her 
>shields?  The bit that ends with "...what matters is, you tried!" and Alex
>kneeling in the dirt crying?)  I'm pretty sure that Mr. Sinister didn't express
>any opinion of the event on-camera, but I could be wrong.  I thought that was
>entirely MALICE'S doing.  If this is the wrong event that I'm thinking about, 
>then could you perhaps provide a couple morre details of what YOU were thinking
>about?

Ooops. I guess ya got me, there! (my memory isn't what it used to be
and my comics are stored away for the most part)
That was the incident I was thinking of, but I think you are right
about Malice rather than Sinister...
<sigh>

			James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Invisible Xmen? (was Storm's New Power?)
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:05:21 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

maverick+@CMU.EDU (Chris Holly) writes:

>	I had been wondering about this myself.  I believe that somehow the
>spell must have worn off.  Havok has appeared on Television several
>times since he became leader of X-factor.  Shiva can now detect
>Wolverine.  Dazzler, Longshot and the current X-men were all able to be
>detected by Mojo and Mojo II's sensors and television cameras(and Mojo
>technology was not immune,  remember: when the spell was cast Psylocke's
>eye cameras stopped relaying information to Mojo, if the spell has been
>broken then they probally relay that info once more).  Cerebro can now
>detect the Australia  X-men, where before it could not.  And during the
>Infinty Gauntlet and war, and at several other junctures the X-men have
>been using Video-Communication units that are not part of the
>Australian/Reaver equipment(the only equipment that was supposed to be
>able to detect the X-men. 

I think Claremont mentioned somewhere that some bits of the Reaver
Equiptment had somehow slipped into the World (maybe by the Reavers).
And those bits were able to affect other bits of equiptment (ala computer
virus) until more and more devices are capable of detecting them.
Apparently, the ReaverVirus(tm) has now saturated the World.

>	Roma cast the spell to hide the "dead" X-men from the world.  It is
>qutie possible that since the X-men dropped the facade of being dead the
>spell was broken.  This is only a roughly drawn theory, I'm open to
>suggestions.

Nice theory. It sounds plausible (unless contradicted in canon by the
above theory).

				James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Dampening Rogue's mutant power
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:00:01 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

jwalters@stsci.edu writes:

>How about this theory:  Rogue has been incomplete control of her absorbing 
>power ever since the Siege Ludicrous - she just hasn't realised it yet.

Yeah. I posted the hypothesis several weeks ago.

>I forget exactly how it was stated, but wasn't the SP supposed to reward
>the good people who pass through and destroy the evil.  I figure that freeing
>Rogue from the Ms. Marvel persona was a reward from the SP, and giving her
>control of her powers could be another reward.  The thing is, Rogue is so
>afraid of her absorbing power she never touches anyone.  She did absorb 
>Gateway in her comeback issue, but that was deliberate.  I don't think 
>touched anyone since then.

She did. In the Savage Land, she absorbed Wurm's powers (off-panel).

			James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: THE CLAREMONT FILES (Doug & Betsy)
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:53:15 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Oct10.202934.3486@zip.eecs.umich.edu> tyg@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway) writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.035926.29653@njitgw.njit.edu> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
>>That isn't a set-back in Obscure Trivia Lad's powers.  That's his
>>unique weakness:  the complete inability to remeber select important
>>facts whenever he either wants or needs to remember them.  He
>>can't help it, that's just the way he is.
>
>Sigh...ah for the days of the pre-Reorg continuity where we had Jayembee
>in his alter-ego as Obscure Trivia Man who did remember such when
>wanted and needed...

Yeah, well, Obscure Trivia Lad apologizes.  Obscure Trivia Lad realizes
that he probably is only a pale shadow compared to the legendary
Jayembee.  Obscure Trivia Lad does know, however, that Jayembee was
nominated to the Legion of Net.Heroes under the name Bibliography Boy,
not Obscure Trivia Man.  Not that it matters (like most of the
knowledge that Obscure Trivia Lad is able to remember), but Obscure
Trivia Lad felt like pointing out anyway.

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
From: v083lmh8@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Fred Otero @ UB)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Origins
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:45:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	There are so many characters in the mutabt titles that have vague
or non-existent origins.  Also, other characters have origins that are
totally f**ked up (anyone come into mind).  IMHO, Marvel should take time
from all these x-over to tighten up the loose ends and finally clear the air
about many of those origins.  I think that it would make many of the characters
more enjoyable and realistic.  Also, you'll be able to understand their actions
and not be confused as to why they said a certain phrase or did a certain
action.  I must admit, some of the origins can be better than ish. that deal
with fighting.

							The Man(A Loyal Fan)

Keep the Faith readers of the 'Children of the Atom'!
					-Fred @ UB
From: v106qjh9@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (THE HAT)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Sinister
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:38:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <67354@cup.portal.com>, Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes...
>There was chicken soup in the container.  
> 
>Just like in the Mr. Freeze episode of the animated Batman, "Heart of Ice."
> 
>PAD

I knew it!  That was my first reaction!

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From: cyclops@acca.nmsu.edu (The One Eyed Monster)
Subject: Story Lines
Keywords: acts of vengance, x-tinction agenda, etc, etc, etc
Organization: WAIT, this implies I'm organized!!!
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:28:38 GMT

It's been a few years since I've done any SERIOUS reading of the X-books,
but now that I'm back into them (got started around the Muir Island stuff)
and I've started collecting back issues, I've noticed a lot of references
to old issues/story lines.  Now being a poor college student (redundant
term!!), I can't afford to go out and pay the obscene prices that some 
dealers are asking for back issues.  Can anyone post/email me the plots,
books, and issues for the following story lines?!

1)  the Acts of Vengance (This seems to start around X-Factor 55 or so,
	and I've only got up to 50)
2)  the X-tinction Agenda (what's everyone's big gripe against this?!)
3)  the Fall of the Mutants (EXCEPT for X-Factor...I've got those 
	already   O-)

thanx in advance

O-)....smiley for a cyclops
	(but NOT the smiley for Scott Summers)

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From: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: It maybe came out THEN?
Date: 13 Oct 92 00:56:16 GMT
Reply-To: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Organization: Good Question.  What truly is an AGGIE?
Originator: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu


	Gosh, that subject isn't exactly eloquent, is it?  Well, anyway,
I've spotted several postings where people talk about X-Men TAS being 
premeired last Saturday.  If it was,  HOW WAS IT?!?  I GOTTA KNOW!!!
ARRGHHGGHGHHARHGHHTAHTHHGGHAHTTRRHGH!  (foam, spray, spatter)
	Did you ever notice how much better you feel after you just give
in to a rabies attack, and let it run its course?  A little foam (yours),
a lotta blood (someone else's), and you're on top of the world...
	Seriously, talk!  If you saw it and do not post, I vill hunt you
down and keeeel you like zee dogh you ahrr.  I have vays uff makking you
talk...

	Until zees stooped accent goz away,
		Keeeng Rrrrrat zigning ahff!!!
From: shan@wam.umd.edu (Jake)
Subject: X-Men Animated Series on Fox
Keywords: Time
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:26:56 GMT

The animated series of X-Men will start on Oct. 24 on the Fox network.  Check
your guide for the time.
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: DRH's LNH Persona (Was: Re: Maverick
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:54:17 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

>P.S.  dhenry do you have an LNH persona?  Well you should!
>I read enough of your posts!

Yeah, and I haven't gotten one check of royalty yet, you bastard! :-)

No, I don't have an LNH persona. Once, in a moment of weakness brought on
by rereading all my Morrison Doom Patrols, I posted up something about
the CD King on r.a.c.dead.not.quite.yet, but I didn't follow up on it or
anything. Scav said he may bring back CDK, but I don't follow alt.comics.lnh
(yes, my site has it). I'm busy enough as it is without trying to think up
silly things about comics deliberately (my posts are usually silly enough
without working humor in).

Maybe I'll come in as Blue Moon, as in Once-In-A-. The Exasperated One
would fit, too. Or, just the Whale of Thrill. Always loved that title,
killed a man in Tuscon to earn the right to it...

Anyway...
-- 
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"Boy, do I love PLASTIC!" -- TJ Teru // What was your question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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From: matthew@sunpix.East.Sun.COM (Matthew Stier - Sun NC Development Center)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: X-cutioner's Song
Date: 14 Oct 1992 02:21:12 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Research Triangle Park, NC
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: string-beans.east.sun.com


A few items I've noticed, that may have been missed by others.

1) Another sign that Cable may be Nathan.  In X-Force #1 Cable was 
   demonstrated that he was telekenetic.

2) I'm more in the thought that Sinister shot Professor X.  It has
   already been shown that he can assume the identity of someone else.

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From: rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: The DARKFORCE (was: Fallen Angels)
Date: 9 Oct 92 04:23:21 GMT
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> From: 910252m@ace.acadiau.ca (DWAYNE ALLAN MACKINNON)
>  The Vanisher? Who knows, who cares.

Not that anyone cares, but he has been spotted in the most recent issue of New
Warriors.  Apparently his "darkforce" power is outta control and he wanted to
seek out Silohette to see if her powers are outta control too.

Are we on the verge of the "Darkforce Saga"????

How many mutants and non-mutants currently weild the darkforce anyhow?

Vanisher
Silohette
Darkstar
Blackout
Asp
Cloak

I know there's a whole lot more.
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From: cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  )
Subject: Re: Uncanny #295
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:49:10 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.102836.3111@wkuvx1.bitnet> barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>In article <8epSHRm00iV0Q4ssQe@andrew.cmu.edu>, mk56+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael J. Keating) writes:
>> I can't believe that Wolverine and Bishop practically invaded Canada. 
>> With Val's position in the government, I find it hard to believe that
>> the only way to retrieve those records was to storm the place.  (I know,
>> I know, how else could they be expected to meet up with Cable?)
>
>Personally, I liked this part (you might remember I'm the one who
>nuked Canada in alt.comics.LNH and generally has it in for Canada) 
>:+).

Your desire to nuke Canada is obviously dues to some kind of desperate
need to try and stop the Jays from not only kicking Oakland's butt, but
also to stop them from winning the world series. (Oooh this could start
something nasty)

As for nuking us, that's old hat. The Avengers nuked us (actually me,
since I live in Newfoundland) awhile back. We're feeling much better
now. Thanks for asking....

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Date: Wed,  7 Oct 1992 12:37:58 -0400 
From: "Michael J. Keating" <mk56+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Dampening Rogue's mutant power
	<BvqpHw.Hsp@ais.org>

>permanent transfer. After this transfer, the powers became a part of Rogue,
>as well as a mirror-image of Carol Danvers' psyche, as especially noted
>around #236 or so. As for why Rogue no longer suffers from any MPD, I can't
>explain... must be something Magneto did. 

I thought that after the Seige Perilous, where the two were separated,
Rogue lost the Danvers psyche.  However, when Magneto killed Ms. Marvel,
the powers went back to Rogue to stay.  Does that explain things?

Mike
From: nova@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jennifer Baughman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Men 2099
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:21:32 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Oct8.203721.27491@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) writes:

>I'm sure they would eventually make an attempt to tie them together.
>Yeah. I bet they try a X-time X-over!
>Hoo-Hah!!!
>Just stand back and watch the continuity BURN!!

Yee-hah!!!  I've got it:  Cable 2099 meets Cable 1992!  Oh, waitaminute, isn't
that what we've got in X-Ecutioner's Song??  :>

__NOVA__
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From: x91godo@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Spiderman 2099
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:59:44 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

SpiderMan 2099

	The new costume looks sweet!  But there are too many Spiderman
comic books out now.  He is going to turn into another superman who is
going to die.  This is becoming a joke.  Besides, who can afford all of
the comics.
	
				Jason