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From: sdo@piccolo.East.Sun.COM (Scott Oaks - Sun Consulting NYC)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: olvwm 3.3 now available
Date: 15 Dec 1992 19:49:03 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: sdo@piccolo.East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: piccolo.east.sun.com

> |> Since olvwm now supports Xpm, does this mean that if an application has a
> |> icon defined that has a greater depth than 1, it will display it?
> 
> 
> The ICCCM states that icon pixmaps should be of depth 1 (section 4.1.2.4).
> If you need a multi-color icon, use an icon-window.

ICCCM aside, olvwm will allow you to specify an icon with a depth greater than
1.  If you want to be truly portable, you will not use this feature and will build
an icon-window; if you don't care (or if you don't have the application source
code to begin with), you'll use an XPM pixmap.

The application icon is just a nice side-effect; the XPM stuff was really added to
allow color icons in menus.

-sdo

----------
Scott Oaks
Sun Microsystems	(scott.oaks@sun.com)

Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.windows.x.motif
From: kelem@xilinx.com (Steve Kelem)
Subject: configuring calendar manager windows under motif
Keywords: calendar manager, cm, motif
Organization: Xilinx Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:04:57 GMT

What resources do I need to set, either in my .Xdefaults or on the command line,
to get my Calendar manager windows to come up in a specific location and with the
same size every time?  Yes, I am using this under motif on a sparc II.

Please respond directly to me.

Thanks,
/7\'7  Steve Kelem	(408)879-5347		kelem@xilinx.com
\\ `   Xilinx					FAX: (408)559-7114
//     2100 Logic Drive
\\/.\  San Jose, California 95124
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: chaplin@keinstr.uucp (Roger Chaplin)
Subject: Re: Screen Savers for open-look
Organization: Keithley Instruments, Cleveland, Ohio
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:10:34 GMT

LEIGH ANNE RETTINGER (larettin@eos.ncsu.edu) wrote:
: In article <JSC.92Dec9160430@saxon.Eng.Sun.COM> jsc@saxon.Eng.Sun.COM (John Cooper) writes:
: >Try $OPENWINHOME/bin/xlock -mode random
: >--
: >	--- John

: But, is there anyway to do it *without* having to "lock" the screen and 
: enter a password to get back?

: Also, what file would I put this command in to have it run automatically? 

You need xautolock, available wherever comp.sources.x is archived
(uunet.uu.net comes to mind - that's where I obtained it, anyway).

Xautolock will run any screen locker program you want after a specified
period of inactivity of the mouse and keyboard.

-- 
Roger Chaplin / Instruments Division Engineering / "Though I'd been lost now I
chaplin@keinstr.uucp / CI$: 76307,3506          / felt I was found when He
#include <disclaimer.h>                        / looked at me with His
#include "disclaimer.h" /* cover all bases */ / forgiving eyes." - Michael Card
From: sinan@Mtesol.boeing.com (Sinan Karasu)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: Screen Savers for open-look
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:48:55 GMT


> From owner-openlook@uunet.uu.net Fri Dec 11 21:28:32 1992
> To: openlook@uunet.UU.NET
> From: jsc@saxon.Eng.Sun.COM (John Cooper)
> Subject: Re: Screen Savers for open-look
> Date: 9 Dec 92 16:04:30
> Nntp-Posting-Host: saxon
> 
>  djm> Just installed openlook version 3, i thought the lock screen
>  djm> design for version 2 was bad, but version 3's is just plain
>  djm> stupid. are there any screen savers available out there other than
>  djm> screenblank?
> 
> Try $OPENWINHOME/bin/xlock -mode random
> --
> 	--- John
> 
Also try

% man xlock

Sinan
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: chaplin@keinstr.uucp (Roger Chaplin)
Subject: Re: Spell Checker
Organization: Keithley Instruments, Cleveland, Ohio
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:06:50 GMT

John D. Mireley (mireley@arnou.cem.msu.edu.brewery) wrote:
: Is there a spelling checker integrated into the OL 3.0 DeskSet from
: Sun? If there is, I missed it. Can someone enlighten me. If not, is
: there one available on the net?

I haven't found one in DeskSet.  I use ispell (freely available) and
have hooked it into the `Extras' menu in text windows :-)

-- 
Roger Chaplin / Instruments Division Engineering / "Though I'd been lost now I
chaplin@keinstr.uucp / CI$: 76307,3506          / felt I was found when He
#include <disclaimer.h>                        / looked at me with His
#include "disclaimer.h" /* cover all bases */ / forgiving eyes." - Michael Card
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.windows.x
From: toml@marvin.boulder.ParcPlace.COM (Tom LaStrange)
Subject: Re: olvwm 3.3 now available
Reply-To: toml@boulder.ParcPlace.COM
Organization: ParcPlace Boulder
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:44:42 GMT

In article <SMARTIN.92Dec9132724@torsys02_1.uucp>, smartin@Canada.lsil.com (Stephen Martin) writes:
|> Since olvwm now supports Xpm, does this mean that if an application has a
|> icon defined that has a greater depth than 1, it will display it?


The ICCCM states that icon pixmaps should be of depth 1 (section 4.1.2.4).
If you need a multi-color icon, use an icon-window.

--
Tom LaStrange        toml@boulder.ParcPlace.COM
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: jpf@uuhelio.uucp (Jeff Francis)
Subject: Re: A Better Programming Interface for OLIT?
Organization: HelioCentric Software
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 05:27:13 GMT

"finer grain" sounds good to me!  For example, in XView the "Panel
Item Label: Panel Item Value" is easy to setup.  In OLIT one is
constantly having to create a Caption widget, label it, and then
create and manage a value widget kid inside it.  Pain.  

To answer your question "Is there a better programming interface for
OLIT?"  Yes, try Wcl.  It's not really another API but it is a much
cleaner way to wip together Xt-based interfaces.

While we're on the subject of the crufty OLIT API I'll add a few
comments.  Here's some OLIT Widget/API complaints.

1. How about the overall lack of a naming prefix.  I previously
used Motif which always uses the Xm prefix for naming things.  OLIT is
rather loose in naming things.  Sometimes they use Ol... and sometimes
they don't.

2. Then there is the OlDefine type that adds little value.  For
example, the AbbrevMenuButtonWidget's XtNlayoutType is of type
OlDefine and might take on the values:

[0-18 deleted]
#define OL_FIXEDCOLS		19
#define OL_FIXEDROWS		21
[22-150 deleted]

Why not something more explicit like:

typedef enum {
	OL_FIXEDCOLS,
	OL_FIXEDROWS
} XolLayoutType;

Other Widgets do much of the same.  Sure, it might have taken
the OLIT team a day or two more to code things this way.  But, it
could save OpenLook.h readers hours of wondering.

3. Then there is the ScrollingList.  What a cleaver idea making the
insert/delete routines resources.  What a pain it is to use them.  My
first OLIT to-do was to write the list routines that the OLIT team
should have.  And where's the glyph support that XView has.

4. Ever try putting a child in a DrawArea and then performing a
geometry operation on the child?  Crash.

5. Then there is OlAddCallback.  Some OLIT manpages say to use it
versus XtAddCallback.  man OlAddCallback yields, "No manual entry for
OlAddCallback".  What does OlAddCallback do?.  How about providing
_all_ the Xt manpages.

6. Anyone care to give-up the secret of the Category widget or any of
the other undocumented classes?

7. The Form widget.  Yes, it's a four letter word starting with 'F'.

8. ... that's enough for now.

Anyway, I sure would like to see Jim Mukerjee, SunSoft's Windows
Toolkits Product Manager, follow-up on his comment,

	We strongly encourage developers to use OLIT for any NEW
	applications that are being developed to take advantage of many new
	features and functionalities, and maintain compliance with the rapidly
	evolving STANDARDS for GUI development.

Jim, how about a word or two on the "many new feature and
functionalities"?  Or will we need to wait for OpenWindows 4.0?


-- 
Jeff Francis, HelioCentric Software, uunet!uuhelio!jpf, (515) 232-1300
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: bgt@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (barbara.tongue)
Subject: Save Workspace of Shell Scripts
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:34:44 GMT
Keywords: how to do this?

folks,

i have written an graphical application.  i'm currently experiencing the
teeny tiny problem that "Save Workspace" ain't saving!

Does anyone know how to get "Save Workspace" to recognize this application
and write out the openwin-init file correctly?

thanx in advance,
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%%       bgt@hogpf.att.com       %%           PLEASE!!!!                   %%
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From: howie@sunny.dab.ge.com (J. Bruce Howie)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: Spell Checker
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:53:01 GMT
Reply-To: howie@sunny.dab.ge.com
Organization: General Electric - SCSD

In article 4750@cas.org, lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) writes:
>That would be useful.  When _I_ try it, it fails due to the fact that
>OW 3.0 drops the selection before ispell gets a chance to complete its task...
>-- 
>Larry W. Virden                 UUCP: osu-cis!chemabs!lvirden
>Same Mbox: BITNET: lvirden@cas  INET: lvirden@cas.org
>Personal: 674 Falls Place,   Reynoldsburg, OH 43068-1614

When I implemented this feature in my .text_extras_menu menu I had the same
problem. I called Sun about it. It turns out that when the text window ships
out the highlighted text the window waits for a return. Since this waiting can 
"hang" your window, a timer was implimented to prevent that hang. The only problem
is that in the documentation a "Selection.Timeout" resource exists. However this
resource does not seem to change the time that the window waits. Sun has no
plans to fix this problem in the near future (A documented bug).

So, I have a limited implimentation of a spell checker. I select ONLY one word.
and send it off to ispell. If I am quick, I can beat the timer and return the 
corrected word back to the text window before the timer times out.

I hope this helps.

J. Bruce Howie

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,alt.toolkits.xview
From: einhorn_d@apsicc.aps.edu (E. Drew Einhorn)
Subject: Dell Unix SysVR4 XView woes
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 22:02:00 GMT
Organization: Albuquerque Public Schools - Career Enrichment Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Hello,

I posted this this morning to comp.windows.x and just discovered better
places to post it

Note: Meat of this query in paragraph 3.  paragraphs 0-2 establish context.

0   I have an old SunView application.  I have a 486 box with Dell Unix SysVR4
    Issue 2.2.  Despite XView's warts the cv2xview script which converts
    a SunView applications to an XView application, appears to make it best
    choice of a toolkit for porting the SunView application to X.  At least
    in the short term.  Sooner or later I may want/need to rewrite the 
    application using another toolkit.  If not XView, which toolkit?
    Another posting will examine this question in more detail.

1   I am an X-beginner and have little experience with XView or any other
    X dialect.  cv2xview produced an application with lots of pixrects
    and other remnants of the SunView heritage.  At least it compiles
    and links (almost).  I am left with one uresolved external pr_load()
    which loads an image file into a pixrect.  This is the subject of
    a previous post.

2   XView is broken on Dell Unix.  Example 12-1 from O'Reilly Vol. 7 will
    not compile under Dell Unix.  I am left with several undefined symbolic
    constants including: NOTICE_MESSAGE_STRINGS, NOTICE_BUTTON_YES,
    NOTICE_BUTTON_NO, NOTICE_YES, ...  This is the subject of a previous
    post.

3   Dell supports an X11R5 system.  Dell's front line tech support does
    not have access to the source code used to compile the actual Dell
    distribution.  The employee who built their X system no longer works
    there.  Dell has determined that XView is not included in the X11R5
    distribution tape and is speculating that XView is no longer supported.
    I browsed around in the x-faq and only found mention of X11R3 and X11R4
    versions of XView.  What are the X Consortium's plans for XView.  Is
    it impossible, difficult, or easy to retrofit the X11R4 version of XView
    onto an X11R5 system?

Thanks,
Drew Einhorn
einhorn_d@apsicc.aps.edu

Xref: sparky comp.windows.open-look:4864 comp.windows.x:20365
From: mxd8131@hertz.njit.edu (Marceline D'souza (cis))
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.windows.x
Subject: Need help linking X based applications
Date: 18 Dec 92 03:17:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

While building several applications that run under X, I have been
receiving errors from the linker reporting two undefined symbols:
	_get_wmShellWidgetClass
	_get_applicationShellWidgetClass

I have checked the local documentation and header files, but cannot
determine which library contains their definitions.  I am working under
openwindows 3.0 and linking the following libraries:
	X11, Xaw, Xmu, Xt, Xext

Does anyone know which library I am missing?
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: nick@elvis.sovusa.com (Nickolai Tzarev)
Subject: Re: Spell Checker
Reply-To: nick@elvis.sovusa.com
Organization: ELVIS Corp.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 18:20:35 GMT

In article 1gptr2INNot8@coral.bucknell.edu, mead@bucknell.edu (Jerry Mead) writes:
>In article 11441@keinstr.uucp, chaplin@keinstr.uucp (Roger Chaplin) writes:
>>John D. Mireley (mireley@arnou.cem.msu.edu.brewery) wrote:

[skipped]
>
>
>Could Roger please post the code used in the text_extras_menu file to hook
>ispell into text windows?  Thanks
>
>jerry
>
>---------------------
>
>Jerry Mead
>Dept of Computer Science
>Bucknell University
>Lewisburg, PA 17837
>mead@bucknell.edu
>

And could Roger say where can I get ispell?

---

Nickolay V. Tzarev     exUSSR nick@elvis.msk.su
ELVIS+ Ltd.            other  nick@elvis.sovusa.com
From: mark@verdix.com (Mark Lundquist)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: olvwm 3.3? -- DISREGARD
Date: 11 Dec 92 23:01:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: verdix.9248
Organization: Verdix Western Operations, Aloha  OR

I found what I was looking for...thanks anyway

In article <9247@verdix.verdix.com> mark@verdix.com (Mark Lundquist) writes:
>I think someone just posted an article stating that olvwm v3.3 is now
>available, along with a pointer to the source.  Or am I just dreaming?
>:-) If I'm not, then I've lost the article.  Can someone E-mail me
>this info, or re-post it?
>
>Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: gaow@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Wei Goa)
Subject: just a test!
Summary: summary
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:48:08 GMT
Organization: tuns.ca
Keywords: no key

a test post.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: jpf@uuhelio.uucp (Jeff Francis)
Subject: Re: OLIT scrolling list
Organization: HelioCentric Software
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:28:44 GMT


> Warning: String to OlKeyDef found illegal syntax: <>

Make sure your setting the `instrument_item.mnemonic' to something meaningful.

-- 
Jeff Francis, HelioCentric Software, uunet!uuhelio!jpf, (515) 232-1300
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: djd@csg.cs.reading.ac.uk (David J Dawkins)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: AnswerBook Answers
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:00:37 GMT
Organization: University of Reading

Is there an FAQ for Sun's AnswerBook?  We have just acquired it,
and there are problems with fonts, scrolling lists, etc.

Many thanks.

-dave
-- 
djd@csg.cs.rdg.ac.uk
djd@csug.cs.rdg.ac.uk
davidd@integ.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: akpatel@uncc.edu (Alpesh K Patel)
Subject:  Calling another text window	
Reply-To: akpatel@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 03:13:37 GMT

	I am trying to call a text window (read-only) when the user presses something.

	Example ( Help ) <--- User presses this Panel_button
	and a text window will come up .
	But for some reason When the use presses the button it just comes back with nothing.

	My codes follows.
 
 
 

	 xv_create(panel, PANEL_BUTTON,
        PANEL_LABEL_STRING,     "HELP",
        PANEL_ITEM_COLOR,       CMS_CONTROL_COLORS + BLUE,
        PANEL_NOTIFY_PROC,      pressed,
        NULL);

	.
	,
	.
void
pressed(item, event)
Panel_item item;
Event *event;
{
    Frame       frame;
    Textsw          textsw;
    Canvas          canvas;
    Scrollbar       sbar;
    Notify_value    monitor_scroll();

    char *name = (char *)xv_get(item, PANEL_LABEL_STRING);

        frame = xv_create(NULL,FRAME,NULL);
        textsw=xv_create(frame,TEXTSW,
                TEXTSW_FILE_CONTENTS, "/tmp/test/help_doc",
                TEXTSW_READ_ONLY, TRUE,
                NULL);
                sbar=xv_get(textsw,TEXTSW_SCROLLBAR);
        notify_interpose_event_func(xv_get(sbar, SCROLLBAR_NOTIFY_CLIENT),
        monitor_scroll, NOTIFY_SAFE);
}


	I think, it is probabily something wierd that I am doing.

	Thank you,
	Alpesh Patel
	E-mail : akpatel@mosaic.uncc.edu
From: steve@sep.Stanford.EDU (Steve Cole)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: XView on HP 700 series?
Date: 18 Dec 1992 05:06:00 GMT
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: taal.stanford.edu

Can anyone tell me anything about porting XView to the HP 700
series? I tried quickly to do it myself, and have not gotten
very far. Any info would be appreciated.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Steve Cole  (steve@sep.stanford.edu, apple!sep!steve)
Department of Geophysics, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: klamer@mi.el.utwente.nl (Klamer Schutte)
Subject: Re: Making an NCD X-terminal keyboard work like a Sun.
Organization: University of Twente, BSC-El
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:23:17 GMT

In <1992Dec14.185247.10375@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> karl@thuja.gsfc.nasa.gov (Karl A. Anderson) writes:

>Does anybody have an .xmodmaprc or .Xdefaults to make the NCD keyboard function
>keys act like the Sun left keypad (undo, front, copy, open, etc.)?  TIA.

Using openwindows 3.0 you can use your X defaults. In openwindows 2
this does not work. However, you can make it work:

add to your X startup file (for example, .xsession-- depending on setup)
lines like

xmodmap -e 'keycode 23 = L5'

with L5 the key used on the sun keyboard. The keycode 23 can be found
with xev (or by RTFM -- whatever you prefer.)

This should probably be put in a .xmodmaprc file.

Klamer
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: joey@tessi.com (Joey Pruett)
Subject: New xview library available?
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:26:13 GMT

Solaris 2.1 comes with OpenWindows 3.1.  The xview that is used for
this release has a lot of bugs fixed in it (underline works, text
field scroll buttons autorepeat, etc).  But, I can't find anything
on export that looks like a new xview.  Does anyone have some info?
From: djp@ecs.soton.ac.uk (David Pritchard)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: -nosunview
Date: 17 Dec 92 14:35:02 GMT
Reply-To: djp@ecs.soton.ac.uk
Organization: SNARC

Many thanks to those who responded to my plea of a month or so ago (even
though noone came up with an answer remotely close).  Briefly,
my problem was
	1. openwin -nosunview failed ONLY FOR ME on MY machine
	2. worked for me on ALL other machines - with IDENTICAL setup
		permissions etc.

The correct solution was arrived at after observing an additional fact
	3. worked for ME on MY machine, if SOMEONE used it first.
which neatly 'explained' the inconsistency between 1 and 2.

The answer: I had the gnu stuff ahead of /bin on my PATH.  gnu ld
does not seem to be able to cope with doing whatever -nosunview
causes to be required.  Arranging /bin/ld ahead of gnu/ld makes the
problem go away.

This is probably a programming error somewhere in Xnews which
surely ought to invoke /bin/ld specifically.  

--
Dr David J. Pritchard		
Electronics and Computer Science	tel	(+44 703) 592722
University of Southampton		fax	(+44 703) 593045
Southampton SO9 5NH			email	djp@uk.ac.soton.ecs (UK)
United Kingdom					djp@ecs.soton.ac.uk (World)
From: jmk@sun.com (John Mani)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: OLIT scrolling list
Date: 18 Dec 1992 22:38:13 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jmk@sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: rita


>I use scrolling lists to display data from a simulation.
>The proper data is displayed on the scrolling list but
>I get a run time warning:
>
>Warning: String to OlKeyDef found illegal syntax: <>

	All members of the OlListItem struct - which represents an item in your list -
should be set to valid data. In your case, set the "mnemonic" field of each 
OlListItem struct in the list to `\0` ... ie assuming that you don't need mnemonics.

-john mani
OLIT Engg
SunSoft Inc
From: mark@verdix.com (Mark Lundquist)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: olvwm 3.3?
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:58:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: verdix.9247
Organization: Verdix Western Operations, Aloha  OR

I think someone just posted an article stating that olvwm v3.3 is now
available, along with a pointer to the source.  Or am I just dreaming?
:-) If I'm not, then I've lost the article.  Can someone E-mail me
this info, or re-post it?

Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: fgreco@shearson.com (Frank Greco)
Subject: tooltalk questions/comments
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:54:50 GMT


I'm in the process of creating my first *real* tooltalk-capable
application and have a few questions that perhaps somebody might
be able to answer.
 
1.  Is there a *guarantee* that all observers receive my message?

2.  I cannot seem to get a little tooltalk pgm to communicate
over a WAN.  There is no common X session or (obviously) common
process group.  How do I remedy this?

3.  The (sparse) examples that I've seen only send simple ints
among session members.  Does anyone have any examples of sending
a structure?   Both simple (ie, no ptrs in struct) and a complex
(ie, ptrs) would be helpful examples.

4.  My performance tests, informal as they may be, indicate that
tooltalk is fine for high-level communication (ie, open app, iconify
app) but seems to be slow and perhaps unusable for things like 
real-time data feeds.  Can anyone corroborate this?

5.  Can anyone compare (Athena) Zephyr to ToolTalk, or am I comparing
apples and pi-mesons here?

Thanks,

Frank G.

imho, the Tooltalk C language API seems to be cumbersome and 
would benefit tremendously from an XView/varargs approach.  Also
where's the C++ bindings?
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