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From: gudat@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (gudat henrik)
Subject: FPE questions
Organization: Informatik Club d. Universitaet, Zuerich
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:58:49 GMT

Hi folks,

Those who own a FPE - I need your help. Please answer the following
questions:

- I'd like to make GSymbolix compatible with the FPE. I'm planning to
make use of this card directly without going throiugh the toolbox first.
(I think the manual describes thgis method quite well..)
Question: the program must work with the FPE even when the slot is not
set to your card - similar to ProTerm.
What programming techniques are needed to do this? Since life is quite
ciomplex, I guess that simply switching the bit in the slot register is
not enough...

- What's the most recent version of the FPE? I heard that early
version(s) do not work with Zips (or TWGS, don't know)..

Sorry for the typos, I'm in stress.

Thanks for mailing me (or posting your answers)

henrik
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: foegelle@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Michael Foegelle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: TWGS vs. ZipChip
Date: 13 Nov 92 23:58:38 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1do0vfINN47t@gap.caltech.edu> toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes:
>foegelle@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Michael Foegelle) writes:
>
>>I would be interested to see a GS tested for class B with a Zip running at 
>>about 15 MHz or so..  The fact that the low power Zips and RamFASTs flake
>>out sometimes could very well be due to them failing class A certification 
>
>The GS case is one large faraday cage, so I'm not sure how much this really
>matters. In the case of the Zip there is very strong evidence that the original
>two-layer board design simply could not filter out noise in the power rails --
>which low power CMOS is very sensitive to. My best info on the RAMfast so far
>is that the low power drivers simply can't compete with noise on the data bus
>generated by some peripherals and by the //e motherboard.

Well, we've already held our discussion in E-mail on most of this, but just
in case anyone else is interested, I'll re-iterate a few of the finer points.

As soon as you poke a hole in a case, whether to hang a cable out, or for
ventilation, or whatever, you no longer have a faraday cage.  And with a 
cable, you've got one whopping big antenna instead!  (Power cords, printer
cables, modem cables, monitor cables, joystick port, etc.)  Sheilded or not,
these things can radiate if there are alternate ground paths available.  And 
then there's MAGNETIC fields, which a simple conductive shielding doesn't
handle.  

There's also the consideration of these low power cards being susceptible to
external fields produced by the card next to them, etc.  Even though there 
may be no problem OUTSIDE the case, when you've got a card with wires running
every which way past another that is an inch away and might not be too clean, 
(noise-wise) you're likely to run into trouble.

>
>Your point about 15 mhz is a good one, though; I wouldn't be surprised if the
>old Zip design simply doesn't run once you get much higher than that. Hopefully
>the new four-layer board will be sufficiently quiet. Drew says his RAMfast D
>board has Zero noise on the power rails, it's the busses to the rest of the
>system that are the problem.
>
>Todd Whitesel
>toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu

Anyways, I think that covers most of the points we tossed back and forth well
enough for anyone else's edification...

Michael Foegelle

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: 5.0.4 and Mac FST?
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:27:18 GMT

In article <BxGzF3.HxF@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett) writes:
> Huh? I'm almost sure that the HFS FST will read 400k disks... but don't quote
> me on that...

The HFS FST should read 400k _HFS_ disks, but most 400k Mac disks are
actually in MFS ('flat file system') format, which isn't supported by
the HFS FST.
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From: schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz)
Subject: Re: Desktop for the E
Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:33:23 GMT

In article <DHoVTB1w165w@infopls.chi.il.us> hermes@infopls.chi.il.us (Eugene Skonicki) writes:
>Is there any subsisdized prgramming language out there that allows the 
>//e to design a GUI...Like some product or something 
>Anybody Know?
>                Eug
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>Infoplus BBS, +1 708 537 0247, v32bis. Home of Infoplus.

APDA used to sell the "Desktop ToolKit" (or some such name) which contained an
EdASM toolkit for writing desktop programs for the double Hi-Res screen. They
obviously haven't supported this package in quite some time. Check Resource
Central to see if they carry it.  Also, a MousText version of the toolkit was
also available.  (As was a toolkit for building "Appleworks" type interfaces
for your programs.  Oh, the toolkits have BASIC routines also if my memory
serves me correctly.  I have the "desktop" toolkit disks laying around at home
(But I'm at work right now and can't remember anymore details).

Paul Schultz
schultp@wl.com
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From: achauhan@warsaw.math.macalstr.edu (Amrit Chauhan)
Subject: Re: Editors
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:14:25 GMT

Lim Thye Chean writes

> Orca 2.0 editor is very nice in my opinion. Who tells you it is slow?
> It is much faster in my opinion (or is it because of my Zip?), faster
> than microEmacs, stevie, etc.
> >Anyone got any recommendations?
> Orca 2.0 editor!

Wait a minute...you're telling me you like the Orca editor over uEmacs?
Well, let's see....uEmacs doesn't have mouse support, which I think is
fine because the mouse used with Orca 2.0 editor is just SLOW as cold
maple syrup.  I guess Mike threw the human interface guidelines out the
window!  OPEN-APPLE-1,2,3,4 for the file window?  That makes no sense!
It's a lot like ProTERMs human interface....some of those key combinations
make no sense at all!

And Orca fast?  Depends on what you're doing...if you know how to use uEmacs
then, I bet, you can do just as much, just as fast (if not faster) in Emacs.
You also have the power of regular expression searches, and a whole lot of
other features that Orca just can't hack.  You can't open more than one
window at once on the screen at the SAME time, which makes things like 
comparing parts of one file to
another quite difficult (and I do this stuff a lot when I'm working with
charts, and such things when programming), you can't execute shell commands
from within the editor and then also PIPE it into the editor buffers...I mean
there's just so much more that Emacs has that Orca just doesn't.  I'm sorry,
but IMHO, Emacs kicks the living sh*t out of Orca editor v2.0...and if you use
it with GNO, well, there's no comparison....GNO what I mean?

Now, if only we could have lcc.......'chaid! -- (who choses to ignore me) :)

Amrit
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From: pcassidy@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: AppleIIGS and e-mail - HELP!
Date: 13 Nov 92 09:57:57 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

Question: 

	Does anyone know of an email system for a Apple IIGS network with an 
Appleshare 3.0 server.  I'm at a total loss and any information would be
helpful.  
	Thanks
	Patrick
	PCASSIDY@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU
 
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From: mdavis@crash.cts.com (Morgan Davis)
Subject: Re: ATTENTION high-speed modem users!
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 13 Nov 92 06:44:13 GMT

In <1992Nov12.022902.16202@netcom.com> tbc@netcom.com (Mike Garvey) writes:

>Paul "The Oggman" Parkhurst says that the cable he mentioned in his "HST
>Speed" articles (described below) neatly sidesteps this problem with the
>CTS signal and the HSKi line; this cable basically uses the GPi line to
>support the CTS signal. Is it possible that more software (PT3, METAL,
>ProLine/ModemWorks, GNO's drivers) be modified to work with this cable?

Its doubtful that ModemWorks (which ProLine uses) would be able to work
with this configuration because ModemWorks uses the Extended Firmware
routines in the Apple IIGS's serial interface.  You'd basically have to
rewrite the ROMs to do this.  On the other hand, I've not heard of any
ModemWorks-based systems having any trouble with hardware flow control.

This may be because the IIGS firmware uses the CTS transition interrupt
rather than polling the CTS signal as do many programs that go right
to the metal in dealing with the 8530 directly.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jmk3@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jay M. Krell)
Subject: Re: An old tech saving the GS?
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date:  9 Nov 92 18:43:55 GMT


>Depends on how many SHR display pages the GS offers.  I don't have a
>GS, so I could be wrong on this, but I think the GS only has two SHR
>pages (just like it has two of every other kind of page).


>  _/_   Scott Alfter                             Internet: sknkwrks@cs.unlv.edu

The IIGS only has one SHR page. You can sort of program as if you had two pages
by turning shadowing off, writing to $012000, turning shadowing back on, and re-
writing to $012000 in a quicker way, but this is far more complicated than just
hitting a softswitch like you can to instantly switch hi-res pages.

Jay
jay.krell@cornell.edu

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From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Subject: Re: inCider/A+
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 00:58:55 GMT


Maybe months, or years, from now, the whole story will come out. Let's just
say that I think (notice, I say think because I really don;t know) that when
the new editor was hired, that he actually thought he had the power to make
changes to the magazine. I guess that he forgot that he had to "go through
channels".

Now, that's not to say that there aren't going to be changes to inCider.
There might very well, but at this point, your guess is as good as mine.

Joe Kohn
(sig. Who needs a sig? Got an extra one you want to lend me?)
From: vagrant@vpnet.chi.il.us (Guy Umbright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: System 7 on Intel?!?
Summary: none
Date: 4 Nov 92 15:31:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: vpnet.1992Nov04.153158.10821
Organization: Vpnet - Free Usenet access
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

I know this is Mac related but I thought others might find it interesting.
I just read in ComputerWorld that Apple has System 7 running on an Intel
CPU... They are trying to figure out what they are going to do with it.

This could add a little excitement to the industry, huh?  :)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: david@cs.uow.edu.au (David E A Wilson)
Subject: Re: Help: Old ][e having trouble cold booting.
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 23:31:33 GMT

wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-lep.cts.com!syslep@cactus.org (System Leprechaun) writes:
>Your power supply problems will be over...especially if you have
>loaded up your //e with memory cards like I have.

My //e is fully loaded and has not yet shown any problems (but I am going to
borrow a clamp on ampmeter to check the current drain of the whole system).
Does anyone have power consumption figures for any of the following boards?

1	Grappler +
2	Apple SSC
Aux	Sequential Systems Meg80z
4	Cirtech SCSI
5	UDC with one 3.5 drive
6	Disk ][ with one 5.25 drive (will be moved to the UDC later)
7	Stellation Mill 6809

Please e-mail & I will summarise.
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From: marc@cxr_rs6000.med.ge.com (Marc Wolfgram)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re:  Resource Manager troubles
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:59:06 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Without seeing what your code is doing, it's pretty hard to come up with an
answer to the missing resource problem.  The error:

>      Type 8006
>      ID=00000001
>      Error=1E06

...roughly translates to a missing rPascalString resource.  Based on its ID,
it's probably a menu title string, and it probably isn't missing.  I would
check for calls to SetCurResourceFile, SetResFileDepth and possibly (but not
too likely) SetCurApp.  Typically these types of SystemDeath errors are the
result of a toolcall not finding a required resource, and usually appears in
the Menu or Control Manager.  Good luck.

Marc Wolfgram
AOL: M Wolfgram   GEnie: M.WOLFGRAM2   inet: marc@cxr_rs6000.med.ge.com
There are two ways to write bug-free code and only the third one works!
From: herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Herbert Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: About Out Of This World...
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 18:03:25 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Previously Jerry Penner asked what Out Of This World was like.
I remember seeing the demo for the IBM compatible computers in mid
Feb. when I still worked at Egghead Discount Software in Vancouver.
The demo when something like this: You drive out to your lab which is
some sort of particle accelerator, punch in your access code at a
computer controlled lock. You get scanned and are allowed in.
Meanwhile a mean thunderstorm is brewing outside. You sit down at
your control station and initiate an experiment. (There is a ten
second countdown) As you wait for the experiment to begin, you calmly
pop open a cool one and take a gulp. Meanwhile that mean looking
thunderstorm lets loose a humongous lightning bolt headed in your
direction! As the countdown reaches zero the lightning bolt strikes
the accelerator! *BZZZAKK-KA-BOOOMMM! SPLOOOOSHH! bloop-bloop-bloop!*
There is now a big crater where you once sat in your lab. You are now
underwater in a fountain that is Out Of This World! As you swim your
way up and climb out of the fountain, you will be faced with
unimaginable dangers. As you trek through dark caves and deserts, you
have to avoid huge deadly slugs, wild alien animals, and befriend
unfriendly aliens armed with laser like weapons.
 
The IBM demo was quite impressive so I excpect the GS version to be
awesome.
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From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Resource Manager troubles
Keywords: ORCA/C, resources
Date: 7 Nov 92 21:03:18 GMT

Are you closing your resource file and shutting down the resource manager
when your program quits?  If you don't, that would very possibly confuse
the system.  Also, make sure that you aren't closing somebody else's
resource file!  I've done that, and it gets the result you are getting! :)

- Eric S.

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From: Pauley@vnet.ibm.com (Paul Benson)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 12:54:49 EST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Editors
Organization: IBM Personal Computer Co. - PS/1 Development
Disclaimer: This posting represents my views, not necessarily IBM's.
News-Software: UReply 3.0

In <9231715.22714@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Robert Mueller writes:
>I'm looking for peoples comments on editors (source code type).

ORCA's editor is not that bad, but then I prefer Edit-16.  Hmmm, did I get
that from SSSi?  If so, then you probably can't get it any more, but the
author is friendly enough and I've talked to him on GEnie (damn, his name
is on the tip of my tongue).  Bill Tudor?

Pauley
GEnie: P.Benson1
From: larry@lablues.UUCP (Lawrance A. Schneider)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Boy do I feel stupid!!
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 01:46:43 EST
Organization: L/A Blues BBS - Auburn ME (207) 777-3465 & 7782

|> How do you change the segments in GScii+?       Larry
|
|Under 6.0, you don't :-(
|
|This is believed to be a bug in the system software, and
|should be fixed in 6.0.1.  Sorry about that...
|
|Derek

Derek,

I APOLOGIZE!!!!   This damn course in marketing takes too much
of what little time I have; I found this in my download the day
I posted my second request for the info!  I really feel STUPID!!

I'm sorry,                    Larry

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: devsupport@applelink.apple.com (Developer Support Center)
Subject: Attention Developers!
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:15:22 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2

Apple Computer, Inc. assigns file type and auxiliary type combinations to
developers who wish unique file identification by directory entry.  Many
hundreds of assignments have been made since this program began in 1988,
and
developer cooperation is one reason the Apple II community today has an
understandable situation instead of a mishmash of stolen or misused file
types
and auxiliary types.  Without this cooperation, identification except by
file
name would not be possible.

Apple makes all assignments privately, so as not to "preannounce" any
developer's product.  That means Apple relies on developers to inform Apple
when their product is actually shipping, so the assignment can be printed
and
included in such products as the File Type Descriptor files with the system
software.  A notice to this effect is included with every file type
assignment, and has been for years.

However, as of this writing there are well over ONE HUNDRED assigned file
type
and auxiliary type combinations in Apple's database marked "private."  In
all
such cases, Developer Support has never learned whether the product for
which
the assignments were made is shipping or not.  In some cases, we've listed
assignments for products we've seen advertised even though we weren't
informed
they were shipping -- but we don't see advertisements for all products, by
a
long shot.

IMPORTANT:

If you or your company has _ever_ received a file and auxiliary type
assignment
from Apple Computer, and if your files do not show up by their real "Kind"
in
the System 6.0 Finder, please write to DEVSUPPORT on AppleLink
(DEVSUPPORT@applelink.apple.com on Internet) and inform us which
assignments
correspond to shipping products.

DO NOT ASSUME DEVSUPPORT KNOWS.  We most likely do -not- know your product
is
shipping.  Even if you think you've told us, tell us again.

Your notice must be recieved by November 30th, 1992, or your products'
identification will not be included in System Software 6.0.1.  This is not
a
statement about when 6.0.1 will ship, just about when we must update the
databases in question.

Again:  Write to DEVSUPPORT and tell them your product is shipping if it is
and
you received a file type/auxiliary type assignment from Apple Computer.

If reading this on a newsgroup, you can reply by mail to this message, but
please do not post replies or send mail to any address other than
DEVSUPPORT on
AppleLink -- we can't guarantee such messages will be recieved.  If you
don't
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From: laer.haider@ozonehole.new-orleans.la.us (Laer Haider) 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Imagewriter II connect to
Date: 3 Nov 92 20:42:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Ozone Hole BBS - New Orleans, LA - (504)891-3142 16800 Baud
Reply-To: laer.haider@ozonehole.new-orleans.la.us (Laer Haider) 

RB>From: rjbaucom@eos.ncsu.edu (RYAN BAUCOM)
RB>Subject: Imagewriter II connect to IBM?
RB>Message-ID: <1992Nov1.085911.27270@ncsu.edu>
RB>Keywords: IMAGEWRITER
RB>Reply-To: rjbaucom@eos.ncsu.edu (RYAN BAUCOM)
RB>Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1992 08:59:11 GMT


RB>What must I do to allow my IBM/compatible to print with my Imagewriter II?
RB>I'm pretty sure I have the proper cable (RS232-to-Imagewriter), I'm just not
RB>sure what software/configuration changes need to be made to set up the serial
RB>link.

You'll need a null modem for your cable.  The Imagewriter doesn't use a
straight serial link.

Also, refer to your DOS manual about the MODE command.  You'll need to set
up MODE to reroute the LPT1 port (or whatever port you want it to go
through) to COM1 (or whatever serial port you're using).  That's only 1/4
the battle.  The big part is finding drivers for the various programs you
plan on running.  The only program I've found so far that fully supports
the Imagewriter II is WordPerfect 5.1.

RB>I'd appreciate any help.  Thanks!

Sure thing.  Good luck to ya!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jbush@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (J Eric Bush)
Subject: Re: AppleSoft Basic Question
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 20:23:19 GMT

Eric
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From: jbush@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (J Eric Bush)
Subject: Re: AppleSoft Basic Question
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 14:29:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.071014.13355@vela.acs.oakland.edu> mkheintz@vela.acs.oakla
nd.edu (Michael Heintz) writes:
>I remember reading a trick to convert an AppleSoft basic program to a text
>file so it could be printed out with a word processor.  Can anyone help me
>out with the method required to do this trick?  Somehow I lost the article.
>
>I believe there is also a way to turn the text file back into an AppleSoft
>Basic program.  Any help would be appreciated.
>
The way to list the BASIC file to a text file under ProDOS / BASIC.SYSTEM is:

0 POKE 33,33:?CHR$(4)"OPEN LISTFILE":?CHR$(4)"WRITE LISTFILE":LIST 1-65535

I believe that you can get the text file back to BASIC just by typing:

EXEC filename
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