From: steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter)
Newsgroups: can.politics
Subject: Re: Denied access to English schools?
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:22:48 GMT
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From article <1992Aug31.135210.2436@spxtech.qc.ca>, by steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter):
> From article <12701@audetf>, by audetf@Software.Mitel.COM (Francois Audet):
>>
>>  ....
>>
>>   ..   Anyone has the figures for the number of french-speaking
>> children who do not have access to school in their own language?
> 
> 
>    I posted figures from which this might be derived recently.
> 
>    I'll look up the specific information Francois requested and post
>    it soon.
> 
>    I do recall that in ROC, _taken as a whole_, there is an enrollment
>    rate _equivalent_ to about 99.1% of minority French mother tongue
>    students enrolled in minority French language programs. (Ontario and
>    New Brunswick were the highest, I think).
> 
>    That doesn't answer the specific question so I'll come back on
>    this one.
> 

 For Francois' benefit, and for anyone else who missed it, here, again,
 is the posting with the official language minority school enrollment
 figures:-


Newsgroups: can.politics
Subject: Access to French schools in CHQ etc.


   Someone, I think it was Stewart, asked about schools and enrollment
   figures for French schools in CHQ.

   I got these from "Official language minority education rights in
   Canada: From instruction to management"; from O.C.O.L. :-

    (Table II-5, page 68)
                        
    Public schools providing primary and secondary instruction to the
    minority, by province and territory, 1986

               #     Enrlmnt.  Minority  Enrlmnt. Eligible  Eligible under
             public  (grades   popultn.    MMT*   enrlmnt.  s.23(1)(a)**
                      1-12)    6-17 yrs.  %(b/c)            %(b/e)

               a       b         c         d         e        f

 B.C.          36     1,525     2,602     58.6%    14,815    10.3%
 Alberta       17     1,575     5,318     29.6%    21,093     7.5%
 Sask.         12       838     1,762     47.6%    10,722     7.8%
 Manitoba      34     5,211     6,681     78.0%    17,754    29.4%
 Ontario      351    77,412    70,462    109.9%   135,612    57.1%
 Quebec       374   111,178*** 86,946    127.9%   121,513    91.5%
 New Bruns.   154    46,086    46,350     99.4%    57,331    80.4%
 P.E.I.         2       497       706     70.4%     2,280    21.8%
 Nova Scotia   20     3,665     3,791     96.4%    10,516    34.8%
 Newf'land      2        68       267     25.5%     1,117     6.1%
 N.W.T & Ykn.   2        36       168     21.4%       674     5.3%

    *     MMT: Minority Mother Tongue
    **    s.23(1)(a) of Can. Charter of rights and Freedoms - this is
          the "Mother Tongue" criteria for access to minority language
          instruction. This is in force in every province EXCEPT Quebec.
    ***   The figure of enrollment for Quebec would be higher if s.23(a)(a)
          were applied in Quebec, as in ROC.

   The source says that:-

      "For the Francophone minorities as a whole, the equivalent
       of 99.1% of minority mother tongue children were educated
       in minority programs of instruction provided by school
       boards. ... : in the provinces where the French minority
       population is of intemediate size or small, the equivalent
       of half or less than half of French mother tongue children
       are educated in French. This is the case in B.C., Alberta,
       Sasketchewan, Newfoundland and N.W.T/Yukon.

       In 1986 in Quebec, the equivalent of 127.9% of English
       mother tongue children were being educated in English.
       Whereas the number of English mother tongue children
       totalled 86,946, total enrollmet in minority programs
       provided by the school boards was 111,178 pupils."

   There is IMHO, much room for improvement.

   It is also fascinating to discover that the equivalent of 99.1%
   of French minority mother tongue children were being educated in
   minority programs provided by school boards through CHQ.

   It would seem that those who would retain legislated denial
   of access to English speaking children to their own language
   programs in Quebec - on the grounds that such services are NOT
   provided in ROC - should buy a few truck loads of toilet paper!


   A lot of the children eligible for education in English schools
   in Quebec are francophone or allophone:-

                French   'Other'     French   'Other'
               (Whole of Quebec)    (Greater-Montreal)

        1983    13,935   31,494      10,121   31,077
        1985    12,689   27,133       9,074   26,713
        1987    12,555   23,689       8,825   23,325
        1989    12,667   20,811       8,865   20,479


   Forcing English-speaking families to send their children to French
   school in Quebec BY LEGISLATION can not be justified on the grounds
   that those services are not provided in ROC. Again: the equivalent
   of 99.1% of French minority mother tongue children are being
   educated in French programs provided by school boards in ROC!


[emotional comment addressed to Denis et al about racist, discriminatory
 law etc. deleted]

   Rene Levesque himself agreed in 1978 that access to English schools
   should be given to ALL english speaking children in Quebec.



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