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From: claude@TRC.MEW.MEI.CO.JP (Claude Huss)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Kansai <-> Kantou Japanese table
Date: 4 Sep 92 01:04:46 GMT
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet

Today I found this table in the Japan Times. There was many others
tables with other dialects spoken in Japan, but I thought the Kansai
table would be more suitable to post:

Kansai			Kanto		 	English
-------------------------------------------------------------
Honma			Hontou			really
E			Ii			good
Akan			Dame			no good
Kota			Katta			bought
Katta			Karita			borrowed
Yo iwan			Totemo iwanai		do not dare to say
Shinkikusai		Jirettai		irritating
Donkusai		Mittomonai		ugly
Kettaina		Henna			strange
Mechikoi		Shitsukoi		persistent
Ero summahen		Domo Sumimasen          I'm so sorry
Aho			Baka			fool
doaho			Oobaka			very foolish
dokonjo			Sugoi Konjo		strong will
dosukebe		Sugoi Sukebe		very dirty-minded
ahondara		oobakayaro		terribly foolish
ookini			arigatou		Thank you
Oideyasu		Irasshamaise		Welcome

Does anyone have more words to this table? :-)


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From: ccavers@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Cam Cavers)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Baka! (kanji help...)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 17:16:08 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

I have a little question about Kanji... The anime fan club I belong to is named
BAKA (see my sig...) and I know the Kanji for baka is the symbol for horse, and
the symbol for deer. Horse (ba,uma,ma...) is easy enough to find, but "ka", or
deer, only seems to exist as a radical, not one of the 1945 standard kanji. Is
this correct, or am I missing something when I try to look up "ka" in my
dictionary?

Any help would be appreciated; you can reply by email, as I'm sure nobody
really wants a to have to read a discussion on how to spell "idiot" (or moron,
fool, whatever) in Japanese...:)

!   *  *  * *    *    ! Cam Cavers: ccavers@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca !SakeSakeSake
!   *   *      ****** ! **************************************** !SakeSakeSake!

!  *     *      *   * ! Member of B.A.K.A.: Banzai Anime         !-Napolipolita

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Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: DUELL@RMCS.CRANFIELD.AC.UK
Subject: (none)
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:24:00 GMT

I'm trying to write a letter to a friend, but there are a few
phrases that I can't seem to find in any of my books. So how
does one say in Japanese:

"Can you do me a favour?" ?

In TOKYU HANDS I bought some pens, that could be changed from
black biro, to red biro to propelling pencil, just by twisting the
pen. But I can't remember what they were called - is it something
like "SHABO"? I've seen less sophisticated ones here in Britain,
but the selection is achieved by buttons on the top. Which leads
me on to another question. How does one say:

"England is 2 years behind Japan"?

          Thanks in advance
                          Alan P. Duell.

-Thanks to all those who replied to my last question.
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: rgt@kepler.unh.edu (Richard G Tomasso)
Subject: Re: Help me...
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:12:44 GMT

In article <Tq1HqB3w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> ccavers@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Cam Cavers) writes:
>With all the talk lately of learning Japanese as a second language, I'm
>wondering what suggestions anyone might have for me to do outside of my course,
>such as any book suggestions, IBM-compatible computer programs I can use, or
>any study advice.

I think it would be worthwhile to put this type of material to the newsgroup
directly, since even people who have been studying the language for a while
may want some new ideas. And it seems to be that more and more people are taking
up the language, so having some ready references available in postings would
be helpful to people who check out this newsgroup for help.

Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: ohno@LINGUIST.UMASS.EDU
Subject: QUERY: DOS/V
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 14:39:38 GMT

Somebody may have already asked these questions; moshi soo dattara gomen nasai.


Does anyone know if there are DOS/V programs that let one print out Japanese
text on 9 pin Epson compatible printers?

In a related vein, a more general question: I hear there are dozens of
freeware and shareware programs for DOS/V available on BBSs around Japan.
Are there Internet FTP sites that carry such programs?


Thanks!


Yutaka Ohno
ohno@linguist.umass.edu
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: smadsen@leland.Stanford.EDU (Steve Madsen)
Subject: How to read Japanese using X-Windows?
Organization: VLSI Technology, Inc. San Jose, California
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 22:04:06 GMT

I am trying to obtain some rudimentary Japanese WP capabilities on my SparcStation.  I
read JAPAN.INF, and now have the following files:

kterm
jstevie
kinput2
kanjips, jenscript, mp
etc.

I'm working on getting Wnn (ftpmail takes awhile) and JIS scripts.

What I need is some basic instructions on what to do with all this stuff. . .the README
files haven't been very helpful.  About the most I've been able to do is get kbanner2
working.

I'm using X-Windows on a Sparc Station 2, and have access to a PS printer.

Please post or e-mail--if e-mail, I'll summarize.

Thanks!!
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: mckay@HYPERCOMP.NS.CA (Alasdair Mckay)
Subject: Re:  NEW ZEALAND "WORLD COMMUNICATION LABORATORY"
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:16:33 GMT

The New Zealand telecommunications initiative sounds interesting and would be
 appropriate for remote and declining parts of Canada (particularly the Atlantic
 Provinces, whose decline has proceeded slowly for 100 years because of
 increasing centralisation within the country, and has suddenly become rapid and
 seemingly terminal. What, however, is the use of a telecommunications
 initiative without an announced E_mail address, and what is this doing on the
 Nihongo board anyway?

Alasdair McKay

At HYPERCOMP  ---  a Nova Scotian endeavour which is promoting the use of High
 Performance computing in this Province of Canada.
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Subject: Re: Japanese literature (was GENJI MONOGATARI)
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 12:45:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.110328.1@sissa.it> radikkio@sissa.it writes:
>Hi everybody.
>
>Howard Cheng writes:
>
>>I'm assuming the original poster is asking about good Japanese literature.
>>My recommendations are Akutagawa Ryunosuke, Natsume Soseki, and Tanizaki
>>Junichiro, both in translation and in the original Japanese.
>
>	And what about Enchi Fumiko, Kawabata Yasunari and Mishima Yukio?
>I think they are very interesting to read. I've understood many things on
>Japan from their books. Three very different worlds shown in three 
>different ways. 
>
>	Riccardo.
>
>	*-----*-----*-----*-----*-----*-----*-----*-----*-----*-----*
>				Riccardo IANCER
>
>RADIKKIO@TSMI19.SISSA.IT	38028::RADIKKIO		RADIKKIO@ITSSISSA
>INTERNET			DECNET			BITNET


For noones special interest, three books I have recently read (and
enjoyed), are:

Silence, by Endo
Temple of the Golden Pavillion, by Mishima
and
Some Prefer Nettles, by <I forgot> (sorry)

I'm starting Mishima's tetralogy as soon as I find a copy of the first
book, spring snow - I have the others.

Also by Mishima, and pretty strong stuff, is his semi-autobiographical
book, 'Confessions of a Mask.'

BTW - one source says Mishima "had himself ritually beheaded" i.e. he
had someone (else) execute him.  Another source says he committed
seppeku (haragiri - cutting the hara).  Does someone know which it
was? 


Regards,
Thor
-that which does not kill us makes us stronger.  Nietzsche.
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Translate This?
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:15:52 GMT

luke@platypus.ee.byu.edu (David Luke) writes:

>In article <Sep02.062623.58726@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura) writes:
>>In article <3836@spool.mu.edu> ashmor@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Robert Ashmore III) writes:
>>>
>>>kaishajin no atama ga iya desu, yo

>>	Literal meaning of the sentence:
>>		"I don't like the heads of people working for a/the company."

>>	Possible PRAGMATIC meanings of the sentence:
>>		"I hate the way workaholics thinks."
>>		"I hate the way you guys (= workaholics) think."
>>		"I hate to work here (= where there are workaholics)."


>>		Any other INTERPRETATIONS?

>Perhaps, "I don't like the head of the company"?  No, it's not what the
>Japanese says, but the style strikes me as being a literal translation
>from English.  Comments?
>-- 
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>|  David Luke                      "There's nothing worse than a brilliant     |
>|  luke@wombat.ee.byu.edu           image of a fuzzy concept."                 |
>|                                                               -- Ansel Adams |


Caveat .... My knowledge of Nihongo is inferior to 99.99% of those posting.

When I tried to translate.... I had arrived at 

"Employees are stupid to work here."  from 

kaisha (company) jin (persons) = employees.
atama 			       = brains
ga iya desu		       = dislike
yo 			       = !!

Tell me how I am going wrong!
Thanks

$B$*Hh$lMM(J
Charlie
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Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen)
Subject: Re: My name in Kanji and more
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 02:31:30 GMT

isc30176@nusunix3.nus.sg (CHEN JIA TYAN) writes:

>Mandarin is the official languages for China now.  It was only
>standardized when Communist decided to have a common language for the
>world country  (Shi HwangTi only standardize the writings 8-) ).
>It is the dialect of BeiJing, and not many people use it as much as the
>populous areas like GuangZhou who use Cantonese.

Hmmm. My encyclopedia says that about 70% of the Chinese spoken as a first language
is "Mandarin". Cantonese comes second at about 15%.

Actually each Dynasty had it own dialect which became to e "official" chinese. What
we called "Mandarin" was the Ching (Manchu) dynastic version.
-- 
Jim Breen                           JIS:$B%8%`!!%V%j!<%s(J
Department of Robotics & Digital Technology. Monash University. 
PO Box 197 Caulfield East VIC 3145 Australia (ph) +61 3 573 2552 
(fax) +61 3 573 2345  AARNet/Internet:jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au  
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: tozaki@math.keio.ac.jp (Hidekazu TOZAKI)
Subject: Re: kanji of the day #32
Organization: Faculty of Sci. and Tech., Keio Univ., Yokohama, Japan.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:56:25 GMT

In article <9208181616.AA10334@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> stueber@VAX.MPIZ-KOELN.MPG.DBP.DE writes:
 |Compounds:
 |hitoJITSU   -  hostage
        ^^^
This should be Hitojichi.
--
Hidekazu TOZAKI
Faculty of Science and Technology, Keio University, Yokohama, Japan.
E-mail: tozaki@nak.math.keio.ac.jp
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: mark@hpcvxmsr.cv.hp.com (Mark Rowe)
Subject: Re: Devising a Nearly Flawless Second-Language Teaching System
Reply-To: mark@.cv.hp.com
Organization: UDT-CV (ITO)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:29:10 GMT

In article <9209012227.AA05176@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU>, CKELLEY@USUHS.UCC.USUHS.NNMC.NAVY.MIL ("LRC MR. CHARLES KELLEY") writes:
  ...
> 	I'd like to pose a challenge to NIHONGO-kata:  Outline a system
> for teaching Japanese as a second language.  What things ought to be
> incorporated?  What things ought to be dropped?  Please be specific.

I think you need to add a few constraints to make this a meaningful
exercise.  Let me propose that the system be amenable to a college
program with no more than a 1/3 unit load (5 hours class + lab weekly).
If this is not what is desired then propose some other constraints.  If
the idea is to make it completely open ended then let me propose the
following system:  take the student and put them in a Japanese household
in a Japanese community where people speak only Japanese and deny the
student any external contact (except in Japanese).

Mark Rowe             email: mark@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com
Hewlett Packard       voice: (503) 750-3246
Corvallis, OR         FAX:   (503) 750-3788
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: mrc@TOMOBIKI-CHO.CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU (Mark Crispin)
Subject: Re: My name in Kanji.
X-Unparsable-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 00: 04:52 TZONE
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 04:05:11 GMT

I use $@7*@4??5W(J which is intended to be read as Kurisu Ma(a)ku (the
long `a' is implied).  This has the advantage that most Japanese would
read it as a modern-style of the masculine name Kurisu Ma(sa)hisa
(with an implied `sa'); thus it is believable as the name of `a guy
living next door.'

Kurisu is a known Japanese surname; not one of the most common but
still recognizable.  Adding a represention for `pin' in my English
name would have made the results look comical to the average Japanese.

The characters:
	$@7*(J (kun-yomi kuri) = `chestnut'
	$@@4(J (kun-yomi su) = simplification of $@@3(J, `roost'
	$@??(J (on-yomi ma) = `truth'
	$@5W(J (on-yomi ku, kun-yomi hisa) = `long time'/`eternity'
Thus, these characters have a good meaning, which is also important
for a name.  The implied `a' or `sa' would look strange in a
traditional name, but is alright for modern-style.

General recommendations:
 1) Consult with native Japanese friends.  Certain combinations will
    appear comical or absurd, and should be avoided at all costs.
 2) Do not worry about excessive correspondence to your English name
    or your name in its katakana representation.
 3) Be concerned about the meaning of the characters, and whether or
    not they convey a masculine or feminine appearance as appropriate.
    For example, men should avoid $@;R(J, $@H~(J, $@9>(J, or $@Be(J;
 women should
    avoid $@M:(J, $@CK(J, $@NI(J (although $@NI;R(J isn't unheard of),
 $@2p(J, $@5H(J, or $@O:(J.
    Of course, exceptions exist...

Anyway, I think $@??5W(J are good characters to use for `Mark'.  There are
not many suitable characters to use here.  I certainly wouldn't mind
if other Marks used them...
From: djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: Devising a Nearly Flawless Second-Language Teaching System
Date: 2 Sep 92 01:53:55 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

>program with no more than a 1/3 unit load (5 hours class + lab weekly).

Hour long lab, or more?  (0.3333 units?  average class here is 4.0)

The best system is to catch the student at birth, and raise
them in a Japanese home.  The problem then reduces to one of teaching
English.

Anyway, for a constructive note :-)  The book I am using is
Japanese for Everyone (from Gakken).  The thing I like about it
is that it isn't boring, with varied exercises and lots of little
cartoons.  It doesn't have lots of numbing drills, but if the
teacher likes those, they can be added in the classroom.
Dialogues are all related, and aren't stilted (don't know if they're
completely natural though).  Kana used from lesson 1, with Romaji
disappearing shortly.  Kanji are introduced bit by bit.  And each
tape concludes with some Japanese folk music :-)
-- 
Darin Johnson
djohnson@ucsd.edu
    Where am I?  In the village...  What do you want?  Information...
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: tad2@RA.MSSTATE.EDU ("Terry A. Donaghe")
Subject: Hi!
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 22:41:28 GMT

Hello there!

Do you have time for another pen pal in the US?
I'm a student at Mississippi State University.
I have one pen pal at Tokyo University, and I would like to have more.
If you're interested please send me some mail.

TAD
tad2@ra.msstate.edu
From: yang@sanjacinto.cs.tcu.edu (FrogMan--II)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: My name in Kanji and more
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:53:10 GMT
Organization: Texas Christian University

In article <9208241525.AA19598@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu writes:
>
>I think you'll find you need to learn 15,000 characters for Chinese - at least
>that's the number of flash cards my friend had when he was learning it.



Wow,  As a Chinese myself,  I don't think I know that much Chinese
characters.  I would say around 3,000 would be  sufficient for
daily readings (simple text, of course), since most characters
are related to one another according to the event.  In my opinion,
"Feel" and "Look" are the most important factors in learning foreign
languages.  Simply memorizing characters and words won't do you any
good.  You are not a machine.  Are you?  :-) :-)

Kevin.
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: kanazawa@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Makoto Kanazawa)
Subject: Re: what Jorden would rather we didn't know...
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 23:22:41 GMT

In <1992Sep3.152053.4753@rkna50.riken.go.jp>
mtachiba@rkna50.riken.go.jp (Masahiko Tachibana) writes:

>    I suppose this is not simply from agaru but iru + agaru -> i-agaru
>-> i-yagaru -> yagaru.  Because this verb makes me feel like something 
>is in progress in front of me.  See example of rain.

I don't think `yagaru' comes from `iru + agaru'.  The following are
both possbile:

   yomi-yagaru  (yomu + yagaru)  `read'

   yonde i-yagaru  (yonde iru + yagaru)  `be reading'
     (or yonde yagaru)

I don't know if `yagaru' has anything to do with `agaru'.

Makoto Kanazawa
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: harry@issun1.kfk.de (Harald Kucharek)
Subject: Re: New versions of EDICT and KANJIDIC released.
Reply-To: harry@issun1.kfk.de
Organization: Kernforschungszentrum Karlsruhe
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 07:47:00 GMT


In article 714965423@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au, jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen) writes:
>
>Just installed in the /pub/nihongo [ <--- note the LOWER case] directory of
>monu6.cc.monash.edu.au is:
>
>V92-026 of edict (PD Japanese/English Dictionary file). V26 has 26,730 lines (up
>from 25,300 in V25). It is in plain text (edict), compressed (edict.Z) and indexed
>for JDIC/JREADER usage (edict.zoo).
>

Sorry Jim, you are doing a great work, but even great people can fail...

Actually, the 28AUG92 V92-026 version at the ftp-server has "only" 25741 lines,
both the edict.Z and edict.zoo files. Are you distributing the wrong files
or have you made a mistake when counting?

    Harald Kucharek ($B>.?M(J), Nuclear Research Center Karlsruhe, IDT
		7514 Eggenstein-Leopoldshafen, Germany
         Internet: harry@issun1.kfk.de Phone: +49 7247 825706 

Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: davidjr@MUNDIL.CS.MU.OZ.AU (David John RASMUSSEN)
Subject: Re: QUERY: DOS/V
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 03:51:43 GMT

In sci.lang.japan you write:

>Does anyone know if there are DOS/V programs that let one print out Japanese
>text on 9 pin Epson compatible printers?

>In a related vein, a more general question: I hear there are dozens of
>freeware and shareware programs for DOS/V available on BBSs around Japan.
>Are there Internet FTP sites that carry such programs?

I'm also very interested in DOS/V and would be very grateful to know
what you find out. Perhaps you could post a summary. A list of
FTP sites for DOS/V perhaps? :-)



--
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From: jordan@castor.cs.uga.edu (Chuck Jordan)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Hiragana/Katakana tutor programs?
Date: 1 Sep 92 09:27:27 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

Sorry if this is a frequently-asked question, but can anyone recommend
a good program that would help in learning Hiragana or Katakana writing?
MS-DOS, Macintosh, or Amiga format would be fine.  The only program I have
seen is for the Amiga and I can't get it to work with my system.

Ideally, the program would be a flash-card type program, showing a character
or a word and letting me guess which syllable it was and possibly letting
me draw the character with the mouse.

Thanks!
Chuck
-- 
                  Chuck Jordan | jordan@castor.cs.uga.edu
SPY Magazine's 1,000 Reasons Not to Vote for George Bush:
NO 257: 400 workers labored 16 hours a day restoring the emir [of Kuwait's]
palace.  NO 258: They were assisted by the US Army Corps of Engineers.
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp (Daisaku Itasaka)
Subject: Can you do me a favor?
Organization: NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd., Tokyo, Japan
Distribution: world 
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 00:09:13 GMT

>So how does one say in Japanese:
>
>"Can you do me a favour?" ?

	onegai ga aru no desu ga
or
	tanomarete kunnai?
or
	are shite? (Ano....)

>How does one say:
>
>"England is 2 years behind Japan"?

	igilisu ha ni nen nihon ni okure wo totte iru

-- 
A wrong guy in a wrong place at wrong time...
						 Daisaku Itasaka
				      d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp
				NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd.
From: culver@uts.amdahl.com (Eric B. Culver)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Japanese Lessons
Keywords: Japanese lessons
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:51:11 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

The Japan Society of Northern California will be starting their
next quarter on September 14. They teach many different 
levels of Japanese: Beginning I-IV, Intermediate I-II, and 
Advanced I-II. Please give them a call or call me 
at 1-800-538-8460. 

thanks 

Eric B Culver



Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: Baka! (kanji help...)
Date: 31 Aug 92 00:40:49 GMT
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.

ccavers@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Cam Cavers) writes:

>I have a little question about Kanji... The anime fan club I belong to is named
>BAKA (see my sig...) and I know the Kanji for baka is the symbol for horse, and
>the symbol for deer. Horse (ba,uma,ma...) is easy enough to find, but "ka", or
>deer, only seems to exist as a radical, not one of the 1945 standard kanji. Is
>this correct, or am I missing something when I try to look up "ka" in my
>dictionary?

>Any help would be appreciated; you can reply by email, as I'm sure nobody
>really wants a to have to read a discussion on how to spell "idiot" (or moron,
>fool, whatever) in Japanese...:)

No, I am used to making a fool of myself in public.

The deer character has a reading of "shika" by itself. Its JIS (hex) code is
3c2f, and it is no. 5375 in Nelson. (The ON reading is roku) Yes, it is not one of 
joyou kanji.
-- 
Jim Breen                           JIS:$B%8%`!!%V%j!<%s(J
Department of Robotics & Digital Technology. Monash University. 
PO Box 197 Caulfield East VIC 3145 Australia (ph) +61 3 573 2552 
(fax) +61 3 573 2345  AARNet/Internet:jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au