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Subject: Apples - companion planting for codlin moth.
From: Bill.Flinn@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Bill Flinn)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:16:13 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.
Keywords: Codlin moth, apples


My wife and I are moving to a new home which has an extensive apple orchard. The
apples are subject to severe codlin (codling) moth infestation. We want to avoid
spraying if possible. Can anyone please recommend some companion plants that
might attract suitable predators (e.g. wasps??) to cut down on the moths (or
organic sprays).

There has been quite a lot of research done on pheremone traps, which seem
to work well, but also seem to be very expensive.

Thanks

Bill
From: fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (steve hix)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Tomato Monster!?
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:10:12 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
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In article <1992Nov9.104218.1@vax.sonoma.edu> butler@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
>We've had a great year for tomatoes.  In fact, they're still 
>producing.  The only problem is that some of the ripe tomatoes look
>like someone/thing has been taking bites out of them.  Then the other
>day when pulling slugs and snails off the plants, I pulled what I 
>thought was a slug.  A head about 8" away turned to look at me and
>then the whole thing scooted down the plant into the grass.  

Bet *that* got your attention!  (Not to mention getting the critter's
attention...)

>I still can't figure out what it was, but from the size and shape of 
>his mouth, I'm pretty sure that it's what has been eating my tomatoes.
>It was somewhat coiled around the branches in the tomato plant.  It
>had small legs and feet, but these looked too small to actually be able
>to support or move the creature.  It was also reptilian.  

If reptile, then not herbivorous (unless it was an iguana...unlikely).

>Does anyone
>have any ideas what my `tomato monster' could be?  A skink comes to mind,
>but I've never heard of them in this area.  BTW I live in the Napa Valley 
>(Northern California).  

Bet it was brown with a pattern of darker brown small scales on the upper
side.

It *was* a skink...an alligator lizard, which is about the largest common
skink out here.  They're cranky, but they like to eat slugs and other
nasties in your garden.

I might be wrong, but the "fat snake with dinky legs" fits the bill
pretty well.




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From: daw@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (douglas.a.williams)
Subject: "Convertible" power yard/garden tools
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:32:00 GMT
Followup-To: poster



Now that it's leaf clean-up time here in the northeast, a lot
of people are out using their leaf blowers. It seems that many
of these units are rather wimpy and a good old rake would be
quicker. All of the blowers I've seen are electric-powered
(most plug-in, some rechargeable). Getting leaves out of all
the shrubs/beds would be a much easier task with a blower. In
the lawn I'd just bag them with the mower and dump them into
the compost heap as usual.  So, I really want a blower, but about 
electric yard tools...

I had an electric string trimmer for a while, but the extension
cord was a hassle from the start. I bought a Shindaiwa gas-powered
string trimmer and find it much nicer: lots of power and a lot 
more convenient to use. So I thought a gas blower would be the
hot set-up for leaf chores. But then I realized that would be yet
another engine to deal with. And it'd only get limited use in the 
fall of each year. Of course, I could also use a small chainsaw
and a hedge trimmer, too! 

So here's the question: Does anyone make a line of "convertible"
outdoor power tools? It'd have one engine to which you mount a
selection of different implements (string trimmer, blower, chain
saw, hedge clipper, etc.)? Seems like an ideal solution to my
problem. I have a too-long list of spark-plugs already ;-)

If possible, respond via email. I'll summarize to the net. Thanks!


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From: jane@soave.swdc.stratus.com (Jane Beckman)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Tomato Monster!?
Date: 13 Nov 92 04:04:14 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc., San Jose, CA


Legs and feet that looked too small to support it?  Mistook it
for a slug at first, hmmm?  Sounds like a Slender Salamander
to me.  I get them in my garden, sometimes, but usually find
them hiding under rocks.  They have a way of shinnying and
coiling that is very wormlike, and you can often mistake them
for something invertebrate, at first.  (I tend to do this a
lot, when I turn them up in my compost pile.)  They tend to be
insectivorous, rather than herbivorous, so I would speculate
he was dining on munchy slugs and other things that were
eating your tomatos.
--
  Jilara   [jane@swdc.stratus.com]

"The field of pseudo-science hasn't progressed much in ten
years, except to gain access to the net." --from ca.earthquakes
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From: bene@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Benedikt Homann)
Subject: Travel to New Zealand
Organization: Technische Universitaet Berlin, Germany
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:58:09 GMT

[posting for a friend]

Hello,
landscape architect from germany, Berlin,aged 31, will 
travel to New Zealand next year between January 28th 
and February 28th. I intend tracking on the South Island.

Places I would like to go to besides Christchurch are

    Dunedin, Queenstown, Westport, Nelson and Auckland


for leaving NZ. Beeing interested getting a look more
closely to your country I'd like to contact people.
Because of this I would be happy about any letter which
will reach me. You can also reply via email to bene.

Other interests besides my profession are classical music,
opera, dancing, chatting about everything important.

I won't ask for accomodation for I will stay at backpackers.

My adress is Stefan Rampelmann
	     Kaunstr. 8
	     1000 Berlin 37
	     FRG Germany
Email:       bene@cs.tu-berlin.de
From: mr@delfin.com (Mark Rosenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: RFI: Cardiocrinum Giganteum Mail Order Source
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:31:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: delfin.1992Nov13.173148.2456
Reply-To: mark@delfin.com
Organization: Delfin Systems, Sunnyvale CA

Anyone know where I can get some Cardiocrinum Giganteum bulbs by mail order?
-- 
Mark Rosenberg
internet:mark@delfin.com
phone: (408) 562-1126	fax: (408) 748-1140
snail: Delfin Systems, 3000 Patrick Henry Drive, Santa Clara, CA 95054-1814
From: us048503@mmm.serc.3m.com (Art H. Hurst)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: groundcover for steep hilside w/cement
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:01:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: mmm.1992Nov10.160112.12049
Organization: 3M Company

In article <1992Nov6.234640.921@calmasd.prime.com> jhb@calmasd.prime.com (Jim Bishop) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.152434.25445@mmm.serc.3m.com>, 
>us048503@mmm.serc.3m.com (Art H. Hurst) writes:
	Thanks for the input.
>Cement isn't great, but most of us have it in our yards thanks to the
>job most stuccoers do.  I also I assume you aren't mixing the cement
>into the soil, just using walls to hold up the hill.  I use broken
>concrete to build walls and plant right over and around them with no
>problem.  Concrete will make the soil alkaline, but our soils are
>already alkaline (as is our water).  
>
	The cement IS mixed with the dirt - 5% cement. We have checked
	several disasters. The ones who used cement didn't have to redo
	the job later! Naturally the flip side is that it's difficult to
	have greenery in alkaline soil. We've learned more about
	hillsides in the last year than we EVER hoped to know! Our work
	will cost about $15,000 - none of which is covered by insurance
	because it was an act of God! The neighbors below had a swimming
	pool destroyed and a tsunami through their house, also not
	covered. Sometimes you wonder why you ever get insurance! At
	least no one was killed. There have been two people in our area
	killed by mudslides in the last ten years.
>You are in luck on the timing, this is the best time of year to plant
>in Southern California.
>
>Jim


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From: sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
Subject: Re: horseradish
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 21:58:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.195735.26331@math.ucla.edu> ramirez@julia.math.ucla.edu (Alice Ramirez) writes:
>I think horseradish must be one of those plants that in some locales
>turns into a rampant weed and in other places struggles along.  I have
>heard that horseradish can be QUITE invasive, but you'd never know it from 
>my garden.  Here on my "homestead" in ol' La-La Land it has stayed the
>same size for about 5 years, putting out green leaves part of the year, 
>then dying back to the roots for a few months.  It may have gotten slightly
>bigger, but has not spread in any outrageous way the way my horehound
>has done, or those horrid wild passionfruit weeds (P. caerulia).
>
>I could not tell from the email address where the person lived who had
>difficulty growing horse radish.  Is Cray located in California?  Maybe
>horseradish needs more winterchilling, or more humidity, to thrive and
>spread.  I don't know how to prepare it. I planted my own as a curiosity.
>Frankly I can't stand the taste of the stuff.  I believe roots are simply
>dug up and grated and mixed with vinegar.  I once knew a Polish women who
>mixed horseradish with shredded beets to make a condiment that was semi-
>bearable over beef and pork.

sorry, Cray is in MN (Eagan Township) which is near Sunfish Lake
my grandpa's old farm - sold it during the dry years - caught his
brother making illegal booze during prohibition (but that's another
story), also in WI (Chippewa Falls), also in CO (Fort Collins, I believe)
- but the summers there are fine for
growing horse radish - my great-grandfather grew it (and tried to 
grind it himself down in the cellar - its more pungent than strong 
onions)

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From: br105@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey A. Del Col)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Birth control pills as plant growth stimulants?
Date: 12 Nov 1992 13:37:57 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: br105@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey A. Del Col)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


	Last evening at dinner the subject of gardening came up, specifically
how to get cuttings of roses and shrubs to roots.  I mentioned that I use
Rootone.  I then learned that one of the finest gardeners I know ( I swear
he could get petrified wood to sprout if he tried) uses out of date
BIRTH CONTROL PILLS!! to stimulate root development.  ( I was strongly
tempted to ask whether he stopped using them three months before he wanted
the fruit trees to bear, but I restrained myself)  Anyway, he swears that
they are very effective, and this guy is incapable of telling a lie.

I was flabbergasted.  Has anyone on the net ever heard anything about this?
Could plant and human hormones be that similar chemically?  It seems
incredible to me, but I know this man gets practically everything
to root and grow well.

J. Del Col
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From: Doug.Hemken@launchpad.unc.edu (Doug Hemken)
Subject: Re: hedgeapples
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:52:27 GMT

Klier writes:  
	"there is *no* known animal that eats or disperses hedgeapples"

Except people, perverse creatures that they are!

-=> Doug Hemken
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From: dbs@hprnd.rose.hp.com (Dave Sheehy)
Subject: Re: "A grass grows in Irvine..."
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:02:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HP - Systems Technology Division
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Carl Ponder (ponder@oakhill.sps.mot.com) wrote:
: Around parts of Southern California they us a kind of grass for landscaping,
: and I would very much like to know what it is. Here's what I remember about
: it:
: 
: 	1] It looks like it grows about 3 feet long.
: 	2] It grows horizontally along the ground instead of up, and when 
: 	    they groom it, it takes on a nice "wavy" look that reminds me 
: 	    of a good haircut.
: 	3] The blades may be a millimeter or more thick, with an oval (or
: 	    maybe triangular) shape. Would this make it a sedge?
: 	4] It is light green and has a glossy sheen.

Sounds like Red Fescue. There's a short version called Spartan Fescue that only
grows 8" tall. 

: 	 Carl Ponder
: 	 ponder%foo.ibmoto.com@oakhill.sps.mot.com

Dave Sheehy

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From: C11815@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Josette Giacobbi)
Subject: banana tree
Organization: Motorola
Date: 6 Nov 1992 09:47:48 CST

I was given 2 banana trees in the spring which I planted (one on each side
of the compost pile) The 2 are about 20 feet tall and each has about 6
babies. I was told to dig them up and toss them under the crawl space
of the house (no basements in So. Carolina). Question:  How do I get
these monsters out of the ground?? 2nd. - when I do get these out of
the ground, do I leave dirt around the roots and cover with trash bag?
The person I got mine from had bananas on his trees -  josette
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Book wanted
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:25:53 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa


Posted for someone who doesn't have access to the net:
_________________________________
She is looking for "Plants, People, and Environmental Quality", by Gary O.
Robinette, published by the US Dept of Interior, National Park Service,
Washington, DC, 1972.  It is apparently out of print, but was used
extensively as a landscape architecture textbook in the 1970's.  She would
like to buy a copy for a reasonable price, and knows of some other
classmates who would probably be interested if multiple copies are available.
Please send replies to webb@brl.mil.

From Les Eastman -  Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland
lreastma@apgea.army.mil
From: nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil (Judy Karpen)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Newspapers in leaf shredders?
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:26:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: ra.BxH2G2.FK5
Organization: NRL

The title pretty much says it. Can I shred newspapers in one
of those Flowtron leaf shredders (not a chipper, basically
just a giant weed whacker upside down & on legs)? 

Also, could someone please repost suggestions on getting rid
of fungus gnats around indoor plants?  

Thanks!

Judy Karpen
karpen@nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil
From: GC.SUL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sullivan)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: need help from Kay Klier
Date: 5 Nov 1992 16:28:24 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

I am sending this out  in the hopes that Kay Klier will read it. I
finally have both mist and bottom heat back in the greenhouse and am
at the start of my propagation season.  I am bound and determined to
grow Dendromecon rigida.  I got 5 cuttings to root last year but
started them so late that it was too hot by the time they had enough
root to pot up.

I can order seed, or go get cuttings from some people who have a
large bush in their yard.  Any ideas?  I have Hormex 1,3 and 8 but
can't find any literature on what strength to use.

Any help appreciated!

Karen
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From: butler@vax.sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Tomato Monster!?
Date: 9 Nov 92 02:42:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: vax.1992Nov9.104218.1
Organization: Sonoma State University

We've had a great year for tomatoes.  In fact, they're still 
producing.  The only problem is that some of the ripe tomatoes look
like someone/thing has been taking bites out of them.  Then the other
day when pulling slugs and snails off the plants, I pulled what I 
thought was a slug.  A head about 8" away turned to look at me and
then the whole thing scooted down the plant into the grass.  

I still can't figure out what it was, but from the size and shape of 
his mouth, I'm pretty sure that it's what has been eating my tomatoes.
It was somewhat coiled around the branches in the tomato plant.  It
had small legs and feet, but these looked too small to actually be able
to support or move the creature.  It was also reptilian.  Does anyone
have any ideas what my `tomato monster' could be?  A skink comes to mind,
but I've never heard of them in this area.  BTW I live in the Napa Valley 
(Northern California).  

Thanks for any info,

-Bob      (butler@sonoma.edu)
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From: Giovanni Resta <resta@iei.pi.cnr.it>
Subject: Eutaxia microphylla & Parsonsia capsularis
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A72934DB35010377@mac-resta.iei.pi.cnr.it>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 13 Nov 92 10: 32:59 GMT
Organization: IEI-CNR
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 09:28:48 GMT

Hi, 
I live in Italy, and when my little son leave me some time I like 
to (try to) grow plants from far countries (far from Italy, of course).
Now is the turn of the two plants [see subject]. I think the first is
from Australia and the second from New Zealand and it is also called
'the Maori Jasmine'.
I have grown the plants from seed but I just know that:
E.m. should be a dwarf shrub with little leaves and sooner or later
     it will develop little pea-like flowers in red and/or yellow.
P.c. should be something between a shrub and a climber with fragrant
     (white?) flowers.
The little plants of P.c. are strange enough since leaves are of an
undecided brown/green colour.

Now the cold weather is coming and I need to know how much hard are my
plants. So any information on them is welcome and particularly cultivation
tips.
Thank you all.

Giovanni Resta
resta@iei.pi.cnr.it
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: spiders
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:21:12 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

djd@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (david.j.daulton) writes:
> Regarding an herbal remedy for spiders, here in the Midwest (U.S.A.)
> there was a pioneer superstition that hedgeapples keep spiders out of
> the house.
> I don't know of any experiments to see if it works.  Maybe someone
> could put a few hedgeapples in a box in a garage or something, and
> see what happens.

Hedgeapple, Maclura pomifera, is a member of the mulberry family, the 
Moraceae.  The "apples" look like oversize warty green tennis balls,
and *reek*.  Personally, I'd sooner keep Ginkgo seeds in the basement.

Interestingly enough, there is *no* known animal that eats or disperses
hedgeapples.  Speculations include that the plant coevolved with the
extinct giant sloths.

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI

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From: psmith@alfred.carleton.ca (Peter Smith)
Subject: Re: Hand-powered chipper/shredder?
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:21:47 GMT

In <BxMDo1.M2v@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> bae@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Beverly Erlebacher) writes:

>In article <1992Nov10.183331.19175@edsi.plexus.COM> gcs@edsi.plexus.COM (Greg C. Steiner) writes:
>>
>>Is there such a device as a hand-powered chipper/shredder?  I 
>>don't have $200 to spend on a 3hp electrical one.  I also prefer 
>>to use elbow-grease to get my yard work done.  
>>I'm not looking to chop logs...just leaves, grass and a few 
>>branches that get trimmed each year.

>I saw one recently at a yard sale, but didn't buy it because it was
>alleged to "need alignment and sharpening", and would have been awfully
>heavy and awkward to lug home on foot.  I don't know if they are still
>made, but I recall seeing ads for them in back issues of gardening
>magazines. 

Do you recall what magazines?  I am very interested.
From: bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Urban Gardeners Needed In Russia
Date: 13 Nov 1992 13:37:07 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


   Urban Gardeners Needed in Russia Next Spring


Skilled urban gardeners are needed in Moscow and St.Petersburg
next spring to help train inner city Russians in small space
high yield, community gardening and minifarming.  The call
for training is the latest phase of an agricultural initia-
tive launched last March by the Center for Citizen
Initiatives in San Francisco to help city dwellers in the
former Soviet Union raise more of their own food.  Russian
growers are particularly interested in bio-intensive,
sustainable agriculture methods.  The trainers will live
with Russian families in Moscow and St. Petersburg and work
on inner city plots being offered by city districts, schools
and other groups and at nearby minifarms; they will also
give evening and weekend seminars and workshops.  For more
info:  A.C. 415  346-1875.


-- 
Capt. Kirk: let's head for that planet, third from the sun, it
            looks promising.... |-)
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From: mk4j@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Mable B. Kinzie)
Subject: Re: Sunset Magazine?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:26:51 GMT

Even though I live in Virginia, I subscribe to Sunset
magazine.  As Jim noted, it provides a variety of useful info
in addition to gardening.  I particularly like the focus on
architecture and landscape design.  Subscriptions are
#18/year, and are available from:  Sunset, P.O. Box 2041,
Harlan, IA  51593-2004.  CA residents add 7.25% sales tax.

Mable
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From: dmiller@theory.lcs.mit.edu (Dick and Jill Miller)
Subject: Apologies re cats and lawns
Organization: Laboratory for Computer Science, MIT
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:27:12 GMT

Well, netters.  I learned something interesting this past week from 
you-all.

Cats en-mass act differently than the ones I have known.

Thanks for setting me straight.

--Jill
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