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From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Powerbook 140 to 145
Date: 4 Sep 92 11:32:50 GMT
Organization: Naff Green Shorts Dance Co.
In-reply-to: dschmidt@wissel.GBA.NYU.EDU's message of 4 Sep 92 05:53:44 GMT

In article <29490@wissel.GBA.NYU.EDU> dschmidt@wissel.GBA.NYU.EDU (David S. Schmidt) writes:

   I had my 140 repaired by Apple 2 weeks ago, and it wasn't supercharged
   to a 145 as far as I know.

   What's the deal?

As far as I can tell, there isn't one. There should be: I'd like to turn
my 140 into a 145 (a la Mac128->Plus, SE->SE/30, etc.). I'm surprised
(and annoyed...) there isn't an upgrade path.

Nick.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: tschneid@uwovax.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: FOR SALE: Brainstorm Accelerator (for Mac Plus)
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 12:57:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.203736.16285@oswego.Oswego.EDU>, ostroff@Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff) writes:
> In article <1992Aug31.134709.1@uwovax.uwo.ca> tschneid@uwovax.uwo.ca writes:
>>
>>I have one "still-in-the-shrink-wrap" Brainstrom accelerator for sale.
> 
>>I want to sell this accelerator uninstalled - you will need to remove 
>>
>>I would like to get $195(US). Email me (tschneid@hydra.uwo.ca) for more
> 
> If anyone is interested in these, they go for $199 INSTALLED at 
> 1-800-WE-FIX-MACS (800-933-4962).  Sounds like a lot better deal NEW WITH
> WARRANTY AND INSTALLATION than you're offering....
>
I agree, this a good deal. However, you will need to take apart your Mac
and pay return shipping on the logic board if you do not live near the
outlet. I guess I neglected to mention that my price includes shipping ...


T.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.system
From: gpb@gpb-mac. (greg berryman )
Subject: Re: Strange Tone Sequence During Startup.
Originator: root@mogate.sps.mot.com
Organization: SPS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:54:06 GMT

npl@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Nicholas LaMendola) writes:
: I have a most frustrating problem with my Mac SE/30 at home. Last night, I was
: using Excel 3.0 on my Mac and got a system bomb due to a "divide by zero" in
: the Finder. This did not alarm me since I have seen it before, and proceeded
: to simply hit the offered Restart button. When it restarted, I heard the normal
: tone it makes upon startup and then saw the background being drawn, but then
: instead of seeing the icon to denote that it had located the startup file, I
: heard a strange 4-tone sequence that sounds exactly like the annoying "Your 
: attention, please" tone given at Charles de Gaulle airport, and then nothing.
: The background screen stayed, but it never found the startup file. I tried
: booting the system of a system 7.0 startup disk I had, and still nothing.
: 
: This morning I tried again and was able to boot it off the startup disk once
: and was using when I got a recurring Type 28 error while trying to do some-
: thing in Excel, and so I figured I would try and reboot it off the hard
: drive, but no dice, I got the same "Your attention, please" tone signal and
: no startup file found. I tried to reboot it off the disk figuring that my
: hard drive system file was damaged and would have to be reinstalled (in one 
: case scenario), and again, no dice, and even worse, the system disk is 
: stuck in the floppy drive and will not eject despite every troubleshooting
: effort and the old straightened paper clip.
: 
: My question is whether this is a common (relative ?) problem to occur with
: the system file and that my eyes have never seen this issue discussed in
: the last 18 months on these newsgroups. Also, why did it restart this morning
: after not having done so last night, is this a rest-dependent phenomenon, or
: is it indicative of a greater problem. Anyone with any hint of what might be
: wrong is certainly welcome to e-mail me. I basically want to, at least, be
: able to reboot it once to back up a couple of very recent files. 

Sounds to me like the battery on the logic board is about dead.  An overnight
powerdown will drain the battery and effectivly "ZAP the PRAM".  You might
try booting while holding down  (Cmd + Option + P + R) to assure a full ZAP.

The stuck diskette I think is just a mechanical problem.  If a fat paper clip
doesn't work for you, the small metal tab the paper clip pushes may be bent.
If so, It's open the case time.  It would be for the battery anyway.  Just
remember, the FIRST thing to do after removing the back of the case on any of
the "compact" Mac machines is 	UNPLUG THE LITTLE BOARD ON THE END OF THE CRT!!
If you don't, Murphy says you will bump that little board and crack the crt.

Naturally, I may be off in left field with this or any other thing I might say.

--
Greg Berryman       gpb@gpb-mac.sps.mot.com
Motorola Inc.       Austin Texas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: palane@iastate.edu (Paul A. Lane)
Subject: Re: Mobius SE accelerator/display
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:28:48 GMT

In <1992Aug27.231118.4242@aquila.sni-usa.com> voydock@obscure.sni-usa.com (Vic Voydock) writes:

>Mobius Technologies sells two products for the Mac SE.  Both include a board
>that is a combination of an 030 accelerator and a display controller.  One
>product includes a one page display, the other a two page display.  The 
>price is very attractive.

		[...]

>Also, I've heard that they were going to offer a ROM workaround that would
>allow programs running on the SE to use up to 16 meg of main memory.  Any 
>info on this?

Compact Virtual 3.0 does this. I believe they bundle it with the boards
equipped with a PMMU.

Paul
From: faisal@dvorak.amd.com (Faisal M. Bhamani)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Which modem is better??
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:53:21 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas

I was considering the following two modems for my PB 145. The first
is the PowerPort Bronze and the second is the Powermodem (don't know
the full name, that's all that I remember from the box).  The PowerPort
is priced at $235 and the Powermodem is $219 at Computer City.  Which
is the better modem?  I don't know (and would like to know) the
error correction and compression capabilities of both modems.

Please post or email replies.

Faisal Bhamani
faisal@dvorak.amd.com

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From: rasp@xlnt.com (Ron Perloff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Mobius SE accelerator/display
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:12:47 GMT
Organization: xdi

In article <01050023.cgh4f1@sable.cars.com> shawn@cars.com (Shawn Connelly)
writes:

>One of the computers I own is an SE with the Mobius accelerator, and
>can only say good things about it. It does a great job of turning a
>plain jane SE into a fairly usable machine. Since I don't have any
>experience with Mobius monitors, or cards that drive them, I can't
>speak to those issues and yeild to others that have more experience.

The Mobius accelerator does indeed turn an SE into a fast, very
usable machine. Their monitor gives a very clean, linear picture.
I wish it had a matte finish like the native Mac monitor, but this
is a very MINOR complaint.

The latest version of the accelerator supports up to 16 MB of RAM.
They ship Virtual with it. IF you have an older model, they will
ship you an upgrade for $265 plus tax. I just got mine today and
have not installed it because my 4 MB SIMMs have not yet arrived.

The accelerator allows you to use the memory on your Mac mother board
as a RAM disk. I have found it to be very handy. Files on the RAM
disk consistently survive system crashes and reboots, but not
power failures.

>I will add one caveat, though. For whatever reason, the accelerator
>interferes with the sound chip on the SE. It produces a certain amount
>of static after installation. This was confirmed to me by the techs
>at Mobius. Otherwise, no software incompatabilities, and any other
>problems. All in all, I'm a satisfied customer.

Good news. There is now a fix for your sound problem. Call Mobius
service and they will send it to you. It works.

I just ordered a Railgun 030 Pro from Mac Products USA. It is on
back order for several weeks. It is designed by the same people
that designed the Mobius accelerator and appears to offer a little
more bang for the buck.

Once I get it installed and have a chance to compare the equipment
and the service offered by Mobius and Mac Products, I will upgrade
the rest of my machines.

Mobius service has been very good to excellent.

Ron

Ronald S. Perloff     rasp@xlnt.com
XLNT Designs, Inc.  (XDI)
15050 Avenue of Science
Suite 106
San Diego, CA  92128
619 487 9320   -   FAX: 619 487 9768
From: wang_dj@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (David J Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: *** DISCOUNTED MACS !!! ***
Date: 4 Sep 92 01:45:09 GMT
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore

From my experience, I have not seen many dealers (authorized or not-authorized)
that have been able to match university discounts.  And this holds true  
throughout the country.


David Wang
wang_dj@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu   

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From: sears@cello.hpl.hp.com (Bart Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Radius Pivot/Pivot LE
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:27:31 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories


I just got a Color Pivot LE for my SE/30 from the Computer Attic Super
Center in Redwood City, CA, for $839.  This price includes the
interface card!  This is better than any mail order prices I have
seen.  (This was a week ago, I am not sure when their special price
ends).  Club Mac has a fairly good mail order price (around $879).  So
far I have been very happy with it.

							Bart
From: gsgathin@sacam.OREN.ORNL.GOV (golando s gathings)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Wanted: appletalk printer setup help
Date: 29 Aug 92 16:18:15 GMT



	I need to know if there are any dip switch setting
to change on either the apple imagewriter 2 or the the
apple desk or stylewriter when one is installing these system on
 a network.  Any help will be greatly appreciated .

Golando


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: plambert@sml.cs.psu.edu (Paul  Lambert)
Subject: HELP ME with dead mac
Summary: Why did my mac do this to me?
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:00:53 GMT

I have a Mac Classic which always worked fine until suddenly...
I turned it on-- it beeped-- then the screen came on gray (like a normal
desktop gray) and that was it.  No smiley mac; no startupscreen; no
hard drive access; no pointer appears.

It gives no error messages, no sad macs, no nothing.  It's like someone
spray-painted the screen gray, and made it hum!

Even if I try a boot disk, nothing happens (not that I expected it to
what with it not accessing the hard drive, either, but it was worth a
try).  I am afraid it might (gasp!) be a problem with a logic board.

Anyone have any ideas??????

--Paul "the Responsible for making this !@#$%^&*() thing work" Lambert

(reply to plambert@cs.psu.edu or PML105 at PSUVM)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston)
Subject: Re: SE/30 disk & power problem ??
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:14:00 GMT

In article <55926@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> marcoc@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (GUEST Marco Calamari) writes:
>I need to put in my SE/30 an hard diwk (internal 3.5") as
> large as possible (min 200 Mb).
>I heard rumors on power problems doing this.
>There is the need to use particular lower power HDU's ???

I posted recently about problems with an SE/30 power supply and hard disk.
If that makes me a "rumor monger", I should probably help clear this up.

Short answer:  the SE/30 power supply is robust;  any modern drive 
from 5 1/4" HH to the 3 1/2" `low-profile' mechanisms should work.
A 5 1/4" drive obstructs the PDS slot, so it's better to stick with 
a 3 1/2" mechanism.

Formatted capacity and power requirements don't always correlate.  
In general, the newer and smaller the drive, the less power it uses, 
but it pays to ask the vendor.

In my case, installing a 50 MHz accelerator card and an 200 meg 
Rodime drive led to a variety of problems in hot weather use.  
As it turned out, the Rodime 3 1/2" HH uses about 35 watts, 
a real pig compared to modern low-profile drives.  I'm replacing
it with a Maxtor 7213, which uses about 5 watts.  

The Rodime had been mounted upside-down (controller card up) next 
to the accelerator card, which throws off alot of heat.  Thinking
that some problems may have been due to the controller overheating, 
I may lengthen the cables and mount the Maxtor controller-side down.
-- 
-- Bill Johnston (johnston@me.udel.edu)
-- 38 Chambers Street; Newark, DE 19711; (302)368-1949
From: lingeke2@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Ken Linger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: SE/30 Drive Problem (Part 2)
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:38:12 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

I'd like to thank the 10 or so people who offered help earlier
this week when I had a problem with my internal drive mounting.
Almost all suggested that it was part of Apple's "bad drive"
supported by the recall.

However, I no longer feel that that is the case.

I took it in to a shop so they could verify that it was, in fact,
an SE/30 I owned and not a Quadra.  They also verified that I had
a 40 meg drive and not a 5 meg Profile.  Anyway (if I sound bitter,
it's because for $48 / hour, they couldn't find the guy with the
screwdriver, didn't understand why output was being sent to the
external monitor when they didn't have one plugged in [the default
switch wasn't toggled back to Mac only] and I did most of the
work.  On top of that, when he installed System 7 onto the internal,
it booting up fine.  When he booted from a floppy, the internal
mounted as always.  Hence, I paid $28 for them to say nothing's
wrong.)

When I got the computer home, everything worked.  I then hooked up
the other drives and copied more than just the basic system to the
internal.  On startup, instantly after the "Welcome to Mac" screen,
it crashes.  Either with a blank window quickly being redrawn, a
system freeze, or with the message "One or more inits is bad, etc."
although no inits have loaded and the same happens when I hold down
the shift key and/or remove all inits manually.

Every verification program says the drive is ok (Norton 2 and some that
came with my HD drivers).  Apples Disk Fix can't find the internal drive
nor can it find 1 other external SCSI drive.  Programs can be put on it
and reliably read off, but it just can't be booted from.  For now, I'm
booting externally, but that is unreliable, plus I have to turn the drives
on before the computer.

Any more help?  Thanks!

Ken Linger
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Quinn <quinn@cs.uwa.edu.au>
Subject: Re: powerbook as keyboard
X-Xxdate: Wed, 2 Sep 92 01: 35:10 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:43:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.155918.13332@athena.mit.edu> Daniel Cameron Daly,
cam@athena.mit.edu writes:
>I am getting ready to switch over to the dvorak keyboard, as an
experiment,
>but I was concerned about being able to modify other keyboards as I go.
>I don't know much about the Apple ADB port, but would it be possible to
>simply connect the powerbook's ADB port directly to a desktop Mac and use
>it as a keyboard?

No.  ADB only allows one bus master (ie one Macintosh) on any given
bus.  Also PowerBook keyboards (or at least the one in the PB100/
Portable) are not standard ADB devices but strangely integrated with
the power management processor.

>I would probably have to change the keyboard to a dvorak
>type on the desk Mac, but other than that, should this work?

The only advantage I see of using your PowerBook as a keyboard is
that is has the key caps appropriately munged.  This, I maintain, is
not really an advantage.  If you're going to spend time learning
to Dvorak you should spend the time and do it properly.  This means
NEVER looking at the keyboard.  So having the keyboard markings wrong
is actually an advantage.  You sure as hell wont be looking at the
keyboard for help!

I learnt to Dvorak by printing out a map of the key caps (actually
a screen dump of the Key Caps DA) and using the printout as a guide.
You still have to look down but you're not looking at the keyboard.

Besides leaving the key caps in QWERTY is a service to your fellow
human being who can neither Dvorak nor touchtype.

Quinn "The Eskimo!"      <quinn@cs.uwa.edu.au>     "Support HAVOC!"
Department of Computer Science, The University of Western Australia
  -- Dvorak PB100 owner and damned proud of it!
From: bng@tropel.gca.com (Baldwin Ng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: PERFORMAs & IIvi's ??  Are they good?? [Was: new prices; when?]
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:45:30 GMT

HELLO MacUsers,

In comp.sys.mac.hardware, bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig) wrote:
>I heard a slightly different rumor:
>
>  September 14 -- Performas (200, 400, 600, 600CD)
>    October 19 -- IIvi and IIvx

My questions are:
1)  What are the differences between IIvi's and IIsi's (also IIci's)
2)  What are the differences between Performas and Quadras?
    (I'm assuming that Performas are also Workstations)
3)  Should we expect a further discount for IIci's and IIsi's once
    these "new guys" come out?  In both local dealers as well as
    universities' computer stores?

Your replies are GREATLY APPRECIATED!  My mind was set on IIsi's but
now I might have to change my mind if there are new models coming out!
What a pain (to shop for computers)!!

Thanks in advance,
Baldwin Ng
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From: pazzani@pan.ics.uci.edu (Michael Pazzani)
Subject: Re: Daystar Powercache (need info...)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Reply-To: pazzani@ics.uci.edu (Michael Pazzani)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:43:32 GMT

In article <7211@lib.tmc.edu> drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.051124.19532@IRO.UMontreal.CA> charestm@IRO.UMontreal.CA
>(Martin Charest) writes:
>>              I consider to buy an accelerator for my Mac IIci, and i'm
>>thinking about the 50 Mhz PowerCache from Daystar.


>We have four of them. It'll make your IIci about as fast as a IIfx.
>Installation is incredibly simple and the board is compatible with
>*everything*.
>
>Of course, DayStar's going to introduce a 68040 PowerCache in the next few
>months...

Yes, but according to MacWeek (and verified by DayStar) if you buy a
68030 50Mhz powercache with FPU, (between Aug 1 and Nov 1), you can
upgrade to the 33Mhz 040 for $99.  So that's why I decided to order
one.

Mike

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: palane@iastate.edu (Paul A. Lane)
Subject: Re: powerbook as keyboard
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:46:05 GMT

In <1992Sep1.155918.13332@athena.mit.edu> cam@athena.mit.edu (Daniel Cameron Daly) writes:

>I am getting ready to switch over to the dvorak keyboard, as an experiment,
>but I was concerned about being able to modify other keyboards as I go.
>I don't know much about the Apple ADB port, but would it be possible to
>simply connect the powerbook's ADB port directly to a desktop Mac and use
>it as a keyboard?  I would probably have to change the keyboard to a dvorak
>type on the desk Mac, but other than that, should this work?

Plug in the keyboard, not the Mac. If you're worried about the plugging in
and out wearing out the connector, pick up a spare keyboard. The Datadesk
Switchboard was supposed to have a Dvorak module, but I don't think they ever
followed through.

Paul

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: d89marho@kol9.curofix (Martin V. Howard)
Subject: What is the PowerBook 160 and 180?
Organization: /home/kolix2/elev/d89/d89marho/.organization
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:46:15 GMT


Well, basically, the Subject line says it all.  I've heard a little
about the PowerBook 160 and PowerBook 180, but I'd like to know more.
I understand the release date in the U.S. is the 19th of October, but
other than that I know nothing.

Where do they stack up in the PowerBook range?  (Between the 145 and
170, and above the 170 seems the obvious answers).  What capabilities
do they have?  What prices are they going to have?  What is the
European release date (if anyone knows)?

Email replies please, I'll summerize if there is interest.

/mvH

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From: uyyifrah@mcs.drexel.edu (Y Yifrah [y^2])
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PB 145/160 + external monitor
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:18:55 GMT
Organization: Drexel University

In article <92247.164210IO92142@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IO92142@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (James) writes:
>Hello.  I'm thinking of getting a PB and the idea of hooking up
>to an external monitor in at my desk sounds really nice.  I'm
>a student and have heard that will be available on the 160/180
>models.  However, will the 160/180's be more expensive or
>have less power than the 145 with an adapter?
>
>Basically, should I wait?
>
>Thanks
>James Gray
>University of Maine

I'm in the same boat... Right now, the way I figure it, if I wait, and the
new PB w/external monitor DOES come out, I'm ok as long as it not MORE than
$500 than then 145, I'd rather have it all integrated and covered from Apple
than try to stick the Envisio or stick stuff on the SCSI port...

If anyone thinks differently, let me know, as I am sorta sick of my HUGE
II (which I just moved.. what a a pain) and would love to use a PB for
work down at school


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