From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: Is 'Khachikian' Scared Of His Grandfathers' Genocidal Crimes?
Date: 20 Jul 92 02:08:40 GMT





<1992Jul21.040329.8843@leland.Stanford.EDU>
arto@leland.Stanford.EDU (Artavazd Khachikian)

>	Thank you, I must say that this restraint is not easy to sustain.
>Just as it would not be easy for a Jew to seriously discuss and prove that
>they did not kill the Nazis.

Forgive me if my questions look like from kindergarten, however, I am
really new about the Turkish Genocide area. So, please help.

1) Did Armenians slaughter 62% of Muslim population of Van?
2) Did Armenians slaughter 42% of Muslim population of Bitlis?
3) Did Armenians slaughter 31% of Muslim population of Erzurum?
4) Did Armenians slaughter 26% of Muslim population of Diyarbakir?
5) Did Armenians slaughter 16% of Muslim population of Mamuretulaziz?
6) Did Armenians slaughter 15% of Muslim population of Sivas?
7) Did Armenians slaughter the entire Muslim population of the Armenian
   Dictatorship?

There is only one answer to questions 1-7. And that is a resounding 
'yes.'[1,2,3]

[1] J. McCarthy, "Armenian Terrorism: History as Poison and Antidote," 1984.
[2] K. Karpat, "Ottoman Population 1830-1914," The Univ. of Wisconsin Press,
    1985.
[3] R. Hovannisian, "Armenia On The Road To Independence," 1967, p. 37.

>	But one thing I do not appreciate is the silent majority in this
>newsgroup. This silent audience watching the degradation of this newsgroup
>into a sewage, tolerating this pathetic "historical" dialogue.

In the proper context of events, this is intellectually and morally
dishonest. Scared of the display of your grandfathers' genocidal crimes? 
Armenian government got away with the genocide of 2.5 million Turkish 
men, women and children and is enjoying the fruits of that genocide. 
You, and those like you, will not get away with the genocide's cover-up.
Not a chance.

Source: Documents: Volume I (1919).
        "Document No: 76," Archive No: 1/2, Cabin No: 109, Drawer 
        No: 3, File No: 346, Section No: 427(1385), Contents No: 3, 52-53.
        (To Lt. Colonel Seyfi, General Headquarters, Second Section, 
        Istanbul - Dr. Stephan Eshnanie)

'Neues Wiener Tagblatt' - Vienna, 'Pester Lloyd' 'Local Anzliger' - Berlin,
'Algemeen Handelsblat' - Amsterdam, 'Vakit' - Istanbul.

"I have been closely following for two weeks the withdrawal of Russians and
 Armenians from Turkish territories through Armenia. Although two months
 have elapsed since the clearing of the territories of Armenian gangs, I
 have been observing the evidence of the cruelties of the Armenians at 
 almost every step. All the villages from Trabzon to Erzincan and from
 Erzincan to Erzurum are destroyed. Corpses of Turks brutally and cruelly
 slain are everywhere. According to accounts by those who were able to
 save their lives by escaping to mountains, the first horrible and fearful
 events begun when the Russian forces evacuated the places which were then
 taken over by Armenian gangs. The Russians usually treated the people 
 well, but the people feared the intervention of the Armenians. Once these
 places had been taken over by the Armenians, however, the massacres begun.
 They clearly announced their intention of clearing what they called the
 Armenian and Kurdish land from the Turks and thus, solve the nationality
 problem. Today I had the opportunity to meet Austrian and German soldiers
 who had escaped from Russian prison camps and come from Kars and
 Alexander Paul (Gumru-Leninakan)...

 They had told me how Armenian gangs murdered 360 Turkish prisoners of war
 in Kars and Alexanderpolis. Russian officers tried to save the Turks and
 there were clashes between Russian officers and Armenian gangs. I am now
 in Erzurum, and what I see is terrible. Almost the whole city is destroyed.
 The smell of the corpses still fills the air. Although there are speculations
 that Armenian gangs murdered Austrian and German prisoners as well, I
 could not get the supporting evidence in this regard, but there is proof
 of murdering of Turkish prisoners of war."

                                                     Dr. Stephan Eshnanie

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)


Xref: sparky soc.culture.turkish:8072 soc.culture.greek:6854