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From: 00bjgood@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Children of the Grave??
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:33:06 GMT

> 
> Children of the Grave, as the label advertises, is a digital remix of
> some alternate versions of Sabbath songs that apparently never got
> released.  The remixing was done in 1991 (I think), when sabbath was
> dead as a line up (and before Tony and Geezer got back together, looking
> for one of two original singers . . . .)
> 
There is no advertisement on it, and no where does it say anything about
remixes. From the simple look of the cover it looks as though it was made some
time ago. 
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From: stevenra@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (Alex Stevens)
Subject: Re: Steve Vai - Alcatrazz
Keywords: Steve Vai Alcatrazz on CD
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 21:55:37 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.201837.863@samba.oit.unc.edu> Rich.Tisovec@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Rich Tisovec) writes:
>Thanks for the info on the CD's for Alcatrazz.  Now the only thing that I
>have to do is find out how to get them.  Any suggestions other than flying
>to Japan?   Perhaps mail-order?

	Get your plane ticket.   I've asked many a music store or mail order
company, and I get the same response:  The record is out of print, and
it was never released on CD. (too old)

Alex
stevenra@feserve.cc.purdue.edu


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From: Ralf.Wirth@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Ralf Wirth)
Subject: Re: what's the best early Black Sabbath compilation?
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 10:23:10 GMT

mlevin@husc8.harvard.edu (Michael Levin) writes:


>    I am looking for opinions about the best compilation of early
>black sabbath (pre- Dio). I like the stuff, but not enough to
>buy every CD. So, what is the compilation that has most/all of the
>best songs from that time period? Please reply directly to
>mlevin@husc8.harvard.edu. Thanks.

>Mike Levin

If you are looking for a compilation, you should get the Ozzy Osbourne 
Album "speak of the devil" which includes the best BS songs.

If you just want a good BS Album then buy "Sabbath bloody Sabbath", which
is a real experience, not only an Album. I think none of the other albums
come close to that one.

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From: gegabb@sdrc.sdrc.com (Rob Gabbard)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: what's the best early Black Sabbath compilation?
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:27:35 GMT
Reply-To: rob.gabbard@sdrc.com
Organization: SDRC, Graphics & User Interface Group


In article <1992Sep29.175122.22031@news2.cis.umn.edu>,
donnell@barnacle.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
|>Got to disagree with this one. "Speak Of The Devil" is the album Ozzy
|>cranked
|>out to fulfill contract obligations after the death of Randy Rhoads. 
|>It features a rather lame <IMHO> Brad <NIghtranger> Gillis on lead
|>guitar, 
|>and , to my ears, Ozzy sounds pretty tired. It was in the bargain bins
|>
From the way I understood it, Ozzy put out Speak Of The Devil in order
to beat out Black Sabbath's release of Live Evil.  In an interview I
read he said BS fans deserved to hear the class BS tunes done live as
they should be.  Thats why Speak of the Devil doesn't include any Ozzy
solo material.

I rather like Speak Of The Devil, Gillis is no Randy Rhoades or Tony
Iommi but its a good album to put on just to jam.  I love the versions
of Paranoid and Never Say Die on it.

I do remember how lame Gillis's excuse for not staying with Ozzy was
however. It went something like "I saw more girls in one night playing
with Night Ranger than I saw all tour with Ozzy".  Way to think with
your dick, Brad - where's he at now ?

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From: okes@essex.ac.uk (Oke S)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Top 5 most hated
Date: 4 Oct 92 14:25:20 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Essex, UK.
In-reply-to: maf10@po.CWRU.Edu's message of 3 Oct 92 18:22:38 GMT

In article <1akodeINNhsl@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> maf10@po.CWRU.Edu (Moses A. Fridman) writes:
| In a previous article, klg@tixmcnit.tambov.su (Kabanov Leonid Gennadievich) says:
|
|    My 5 Most Hated bands
|
| >   5. Iron Maden
| >
|
| First, I would suggest that you learn how to fucking spell.  The, I would
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| go out and buy the following CD's : Number of the Beast, Powerslave, Live
| After Death, Somewhere In Time, Seventh Son of a  Seventh Son, and Fear
| of the Dark, and LISTEN TO THEM.  I have not yet met a serious metal fan
| that "hated" Iron Maiden, assuming you are a serious metal fan.

While I agree with your taste in music, I think you should be less rude,
and you should also learn how lame it is to post spelling flames which
contain spelling errors.

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From: stasica@alumni.cs.colorado.edu (Creeping Death)
Subject: Re: TestamenT: Bad News
Keywords: testament
Organization: Damage, Inc.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:30:00 GMT

In article <25SEP199221543501@venus.tamu.edu> wwg2101@venus.tamu.edu (GILPIN, W.W.) writes:
>
>Yes, he was. But since then he's toured with some Jazz bassist and "broadened
>his horizons" which was very apparent on the new album not being near as heavy
>or fast as previous albums. With Skolnick out of the band there's chance that
>Testament's music will return to it's heavy and FAST sound. Understand now?
>

Well that all depends on the guitarist they can find... Scholnick is a good
guitarist and he is not that easily replaceable.  I'm sure he had more of
an influence on the band than you'd like to think, and it can't be that easy
for Testament to become heavy and fast again.

Sean.........................................................................
From: cbolton@csd475a.erim.org (Chris Bolton)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Ozzy/Black Sabbath re-union
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:22:11 GMT
Organization: Environmental Research Institute of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan


I just heard on the radio that, contrary to what has been said here on the
network, this will indeed be Ozzy's last tour.  Not just the last one with
this band, his last ever.  I'm not saying that I believe that, but that's
what they said on the radio.  Anyway, the other thing that they said was
that Ozzy will be playing two dates in California with the original lineup
of Black Sabbath.  I'm not sure if that means Bill Ward or not (obviously
it *should* mean that).  Any Californian's heard this?  I'd think it would
be big news, yet I haven't seen any posts about it.

Acccording to the DJ, Ozzy wanted to have his last live performances be with
Sabbath.  

			-Christopher Bolton
			 cbolton@csd475a.erim.org

P.S.  I'm figuring this'll be like the Who or the Rolling Stones.  He'll be
back for five or six more "Farewell" tours.
From: luther@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Luther)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Bruce vs. Paul (was:Re: Top 5 most hated)
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:38:36 GMT
Organization: US Naval Research Laboratory, Acoustics Division

In article <OKES.92Oct6180556@SunLab45.essex.ac.uk> okes@essex.ac.uk (Oke S) writes:
>
>Well, I still prefer Bruce's voice over Paul's. That's just the way it is.
>BTW, my Live After Death CD does not have Phantom of the Opera on it. Where can
>I get this version you refer to?
>

You can find it on the double album (maybe cassette, too). The double 
album has over 100 minutes of music - to make the single LIVE AFTER DEATH 
cd, they deleted an entire side of the double album set. So you are 
missing a fourth of the original release.

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From: tuomasp@mits.mdata.fi (Tuomas Paasiala)
Subject: Re: HELP: Black Sabbath's Live Evil
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 08:39:48 GMT


>Does anybody know who sings for Live Evil by Black Sabbath?
>Is it Ozzy or Ronnie? 

Ronnie sings.
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From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Saint Vitus
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 01:42:09 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

Since somebody brought them up, I've been wondering what St. Vitus sounds
like. I don't have the money to splurge on any band that piques my curiousity,
but they looked interesting.

--Semhaza
From: afyke@mtinews.mti.com (Andy Fyke)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Green Bullfrog
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:10:27 GMT
Distribution: w
Organization: Micro Technology, Inc., Anaheim, CA

I have an album called Green Bullfrog that is really cool, and 
I'd like to find out more about it. The album was put out in 
1980 and it does not list the musicians, although on the cover 
they claim it is Ritchie Blackmore, Albert Lee, Jim Sullivan,
and a few guys from Deep Purple play on it. The album is quite 
good.

Thanks in advance for any info.
Andy
afyke@lexcel.com
From: andrewc@spider.co.uk (Andrew Cannon)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Line up of the dead....
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:57:40 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <1992Sep29.130514.1@research.ptt.nl> mschenk@research.ptt.nl (Mike Schenk +31 70 33 23926) writes:
>In article <BvBI6L.C2p@matilda.vut.edu.au>, jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell) writes:
>> osickey@furnace.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt J. Osickey) writes:
>> 
>> (My Stuff Deleted)
>>
>>>    Why don't ditch that talent lacking Hendrix and the even less
>>>    talented Sid and replace them with Randy and Cliff
>> 
>>>                       azrael
>> You obviously know shit about guitar. I think even Burton
>> would admit (if he was alive) that Hendrix could outplay
>> him.
>
>Except that Cliff played bass and Hendrix played guitar. But I 
>totally agree. Hendrix was certainly not the most technical 
>guitarist but could play anything.  If once heard an interview 
>with Paul McCartney. It stated that the Beatles played Sgt. 
>Peppers for Jimi at the day it was released which was a Friday. 
>Apparently Jimi opened his show with it on Sunday and played the 
>song the way the Beatles wanted to play it but couldn't. I think 
>that is what Jimi is all about. He could play anything after just 
>one listen. And his next try would be much better!
>
>    Mike

Jimi may not be the best guitarist NOW, but you have to remember that he was
the first to play a guitar the way he did.

Many have imitated him, even bettered him, but he was the first.
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Date: Tue,  6 Oct 1992 20:03:20 -0400 
From: Erik Karl Witte <ew2r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Dio won't open for Ozzy

Ozzy Osbourne invited Black Sabbath to open for him for his final show
in LA, but Dio declined, saying something to the effect "It's Ozzy's
moment."  Ozzy was not happy, remarking "It's hard to believe he has so
little respect for me." (not neccessarily verbatim).  That's about all I
know.  Anybody no more?

Erik Witte
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From: genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Top 5 most hated
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 20:32:00 PDT
Organization: Hale Telecommunications San Diego CA

st1sq@Elroy.UH.EDU (Charles Foster Kane) writes:

> 5 Most Hated:        (I like this thread)
> 
> 1. Trixter
> 2. Vixen
> 3. Slaughter
> 4. Poison
> 5. Motorhead    <flame away- they suck>

you suck too.

HALE TELECOMMUNICATIONS - Public Access Node, San Diego CA 619/660-6734 HST
genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko)   28-Sep-92 at 8:32p
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From: jimh@pacdata.uucp (Jim Harkins)
Subject: Re: Mother Love Bone (was Re: name this song)
Organization: Pacific Data Products
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:46:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.232319.9545@news2.cis.umn.edu> kimmel@staff.tc.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel) writes:
>>
>Anyone notice that POlydor is re-releasing Mother Love Bone "Apple"?  I bet
>it'll have a big sticker on it saying something like "includes members from
>PEARL JAM!!!!!!!"

If thats what it takes to get this disk into the hands of the people then so
be it.  Mother Loves Bone's "Apple" is one the the best disks I've heard in my
life.  Highly recommended.

jim

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Subject: LAST CALL ON POLL
From: jwebb@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:24:34 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

Last chance to vote for the HEAVY METAL poll

1)  Top five groups (ranked)
2)  Top ten albums
3)  Top ten tracks
4)  Top five guitarists
5)  Top five bassists
6)  Top five drummers

If you've been posting these to news, I haven't been reading them, so if you 
want them to count, you need to email the picks to me.  If you did part of 
the list (I've added to it as time has gone by), then feel free to send the 
rest.  I'll collect the last entries Sunday or so, and the results should be 
out late next week (Midterm time, after all).

I have a good number of picks, but more are encouraged (makes the results 
more solid).  Remember, if you don't vote, you can't bitch!

Thanks,

-- 
Jeffery D. Webb

JWEBB@OREAD.CC.UKANS.EDU

"Charlie Don't Surf!"
	--Kilgore
	  Apocalypse Now
From: motto@bucknell.edu (john motto `94)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Real Guitarists
Date: 30 Sep 1992 23:21:02 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
Distribution: world
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In article <wemSdOK00WAwAHmUE7@andrew.cmu.edu>, yt22+@andrew.cmu.edu (Youssef D. Tuma) writes:
|> 
|>          I know that Marty Friedman and Jason Becker are good friends. 
|> I heard both Perpetual Burn by Becker (Friedman also plays in it) and
|> Dragon's Kiss by Friedman.   Now, Friedman is playing for Megadeath. 
|> What is Jason Becker doing?  I heard he has some sort of disease that is
|> slowly paralyzing him.  That is a shame.
|> 
|> 
|>                Secondly, on the question of pussy bands, I have one
|> thing to say.  If a band plays tunes that either a) Want to be a hit
|> (Top Ten), b)Want a teenage girl following,  or c)Must counter fast
|> songs with a slow one on a record (especially love songs)...in my
|> mind...they are a pussy band.
|> 
|> 
|>                         THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME!
|> 
|>                                              SEF


So what you are saying is that Metallica is a pussy band.  I DON'T THINK SO!
IMHO, I think that "Nothing Else Matters" and "Unforgiven" are great tunes 
off of the METALLICA album.  What about "Fade to Black"?   That's pretty slow 
through most of the song, except for the ending.  I think it shows a band's 
talent when they can acutally COMPOSE a song rather than bangin' away and thrashing 
through songs as fast as they can.

But, I guess you have to do what you feel...................

Later!

John
From: bart@muppet.bt.co.uk (Tim)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Diamond Head
Date: 6 Oct 92 11:54:29 GMT
Reply-To: bart@muppet.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom

In article 20642@news.columbia.edu, pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>>
>>Rodney Matthews did the cover for 'Living...On Borrowed Time', which I thought 
>>was the -only- true album they ever put out. It had Elric on the front.
>
>Elric of Melnibourne? (ie Michael Moorcock's fictional character - Moorcock
>being an ex-member of Hawkwind?)

Well, yeah. After all, that -is- what the song Am I Evil is about.
>>>
>>I heard a while back that DH (ie tatler & harris) reformed. Silence since then.
>>
>According to Metallica, Lars Ulrich said that he persuaded Tatler and Harris
>to come back together so that they could write more stuff that Metallica could
>rip off. (Ulrich said that in some magazine but I can't remember its name.)

Yeah, -right-. That's really likely...
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From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden's new album
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 23:16:49 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.222757.23436@cc.umontreal.ca> campoe@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Campo Erik) writes:
>Hi there!
>Ok. To all you fans of Iron Maiden over there here are some questions.
>1- What do you think about the new album "Fear Of The Dark"? I think it's much  much better then "No Prayer..." but the only good songs in it (except for "Be   Quick..." & "Wasting Love") are written by Harris who still writes in that good-old fashioned Maiden style. These guys have cahnged a lot.

Are you kidding? EVERYTHING on that album is great!!!! Much better than NO 
PRAYER FOR THE DYING (which I also liked, too), and certainly among the best
of their albums with KILLERS, PIECE OF MIND, SOMEWHERE IN TIME, and SEVENTH
SON OF A SEVENTH SON.

>2- What about Gers? He's good yeah but he doesn't match so well in the band (I  mean his music style).

Gers is great for the band. I thought he was an excellent replacement for 
Adrian, and his songs have a distinctive feel. True, he puts in a strong sense
of humor, and Iron Maiden is a more serious band, so in that respect sometimes
he seems out of place, but he's a great composer (of course, 'Arry is the
greatest). If you ever listen to songs by White Spirit, like "Backs To The
Grind," "Suffagettes," and "High Upon High," that's really cool melodic stuff.
(Janick Gers was in a band called White Spirit before he joined Gillan and
now Iron Maiden.)

>3- Last. Does anybody there knoes why they had to change Derek Riggs for Mel    Grant? I liked Derek, he draws much better, the lines are softer.
>
I hear that from now on Riggsy and MEl Grant are collaborating on the Maiden
artwork. So maybe they're trying out the new guy to see what he's got. It's
a great cover, also better than NO PRAYER's. Rather haunting and dark, like
Iron Maiden has been and is again. 

SOmeone please, if you know anything about the From Here To Eternity Tour,
especially in New York (I missed the show at the Ritz where the tour began)
City, please post or e-mail. Iron Maiden is one of the bands I must see 
sometime in my lifetime (others being Angel Witch, Girlschool, Venom,
and Def Leppard, and I just saw DL this summer).

philip
PHILIP WANG pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu 
"On the other side jesters keep their watch, fifteen million lives ready to be
lost. We come from the northern headlands, the warriors of ice come to cleanse
the world, destroy the human sacrifice." - HOLOCAUST, "The Nightcomers"
From: dxk21@po.cwru.edu (Dave)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: WIDOWMAKER
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:02:37 GMT
Organization: Case
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In article <92279.142721KAP118@psuvm.psu.edu> Kevin Polcovich <KAP118@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:27:21 EDT
>From: Kevin Polcovich <KAP118@psuvm.psu.edu>
>Subject: WIDOWMAKER
>Anyone listen to the new and first WIDOWMAKER album? Dee Snyder leads with the
>vocals, only with a band who knows how to play technical yet diverse and
>original music. It is incredible!!!
>       Anyone respond with comments.....And if anyone knows anything about the
>band, tour dates, backround, etc., please let me know.
>                                        Pitts. Pens rule...WIDOWMAKER wails!!!
>                                              Later..KAP118


   I wasn't there, but a recent club show in Cleveland by these guys
got really good reviews and comments.  When I first heard of it, I thought
maybe it was Dee S just trying to squeeze a little more life out of 
his name... but now I'll definately have to check this out...


D.

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From: s7280041@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (s7280041)
Subject: Lawnmower Deth
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:42:00 GMT

    Does anyone know if Lawnmower Deth has any other albums besides
"Ooh Crikey It's Lawnmower Deth..."???  If so, please post where
I could purchase them...  They probably have like 5 albums over in
England... but over here in the good old US of A the only frickin' 
albums I can easily purchase are Marky 'Snice' and Mariah Cary!  Boy just
what I want.  Anyways...  if any1 knows please write..

Thanx,
Tom

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