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From: mkain@asns.tredydev.Unisys.COM (Mike Kain)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: putting technique - hands pressed forward?
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:06:10 GMT
Organization: Unisys Corporation, Tredyffrin Engineering Offices


I've heard many people try new putting "techniques" from other people to 
improve their putting.  Usually these only work for those other people.

The best putting technique is....... PRACTICE.

Do whatever you feel comfortable with, and as long as you can read the line,
its right.  It's not how you hit the putt, just as long as it hits the
bottom of the hole.


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 Mike Kain                              | Unisys Corporation            
 mkain@asns.tredydev.unisys.com         | Tredyffrin, PA Engineering Offices
From: templin@grayling.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Fred Templin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: handicapping software ...
Date: 25 Jan 1993 22:40:34 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grayling.cs.berkeley.edu

There was a bug in the Franklin Canyon scorecard. (Golf course's error;
not mine! :-) ) Below is a fixed version:

---cut here---
Course Franklin Canyon
Date 00/00/00
Tees XXXXX

Rating Blue  70.9 Slope 118
Rating White 68.9 Slope 114
Rating Red   71.2 Slope 123

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hole	 	1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8    9   Out
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yardage Blue  532  193  368  183  383  207  528  420  519  3348
Yardage White 472  183  345  169  360  189  511  392  505  3126
Yardage Red   441  157  315  145  325  165  490  317  410  2765
Hcp            11    5   17   13   15    9    7    1    3
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Par	 	5    3    4    3    4    3    5    4    5    36
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Score	 	0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    00 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------



---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hole           10   11   12   13   14   15   16   17   18    In   Out   Tot
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yardage Blue  396  242  370  525  373  457  373  157  535  3428  3348  6776
Yardage White 356  189  338  504  335  401  353  138  461  3075  3126  6201
Yardage Red   340  133  320  425  312  363  278  135  445  2751  2765  5516
Hcp             4    8   12    2   14    6   10   16   18
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Par	 	4    3    4    5    4    4    4    3    5    36    36    72
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Score	 	0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    00    00   000
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Notes:
Franklin Canyon Colf Course
Highway 4
Rodeo, CA. 94572
(510)-799-6191

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	Fred L. Templin
	(templin@grayling.Berkeley.EDU)

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From: bruce@siesoft.co.uk (Bruce Beadle)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Pilkington Cup 23/1/93
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:07:08 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Information Systems Ltd.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Pilkington Cup 4th Round 23rd Jan.

Harlequins 	47, Wakefield		18
Northampton	33, Newc. Gosforth	 3
Nottingham	 3, Leicester		28
Redruth		 3, Exeter		 8
Rugby		 5, Moseley		11
Wasps		18, Saracens		17
Waterloo	 8, Orrell		 3
West Hartlepool	21, Morley		 3

I saw Northampton's win over Newcastle Gosforth on Rugby Special
yesterday. The Northampton pack looked absolutely awsome. Containing
as it does quite a few internationals, Reece, Olver, Bayfield, Rodber
and the evergreen Buck Shelford. Wayne even scored two tries, the 
result of pushovers by the pack. At one stage we had the stunning 
spectacle of a pushover attempt from about thirty yards out!
Northampton seem to have got to grips with the new laws now and I
think you can see the Shelford influence in the excellent scrummaging
and the rolling maul which they used to good effect. You have to
fancy Northampton to win this cup. There is talk of the Waterloo 
outside half Paul Grayson joining next season. This means the mouth 
watering prospect for Northampton fans and England selectors alike, 
of his pairing with scrum half Matt Dawson.

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From: adama@bmdhh68.bnr.ca (Adam Ashby)
Subject: Re: England v France (long)
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd., Maidenhead, England
	<93021.193013PHAMER@ESOC.BITNET>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:33:15 GMT

>>>>> "Paul" == PHAMER  <PHAMER@ESOC.BITNET> writes:
Paul> Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)

Paul> Maybe I'm mistaken, but wasn't it rather windy on Saturday. Perhaps
Paul> even internationals are allowed some mistakes in horrible conditions.

I could be wrong here, but I seem to recall that it was rather windy - but
as far as I could tell, it was rather windy at both ends of the field.  It
also brought back memories of Jon Webb's early international career when he
could hardly hold on the ball when it was placed into his hands.  Its all
very well being the most prolific points scorer, but do you need to be if
you are better than competent playing your position??

Paul> for not one England player leaving the ground on the second French
Paul> try I would put money on a running jump always getting higher than a
Paul> standing jump anyday of the week. Since the Frenchman probably had a
Paul> good head of steam he was always going to jump higher, it was perhaps
Paul> therefore some good fortune for the french that he actually caught
Paul> the ball cleanly.

I don't think that his holds up, it was basic defensive error, too many
people thinking that someone else was going to catch the ball - just my
opinion.

And yes - I'm English, and yes - I *WAS* disappointed with England's
performance, I think that the Scots will give England a very hard time.
Scary thought that - my first ever news prediction!!

Adam - A proud supporter of Gloucester RUFC.

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     If time travel were possible, would it already be here...???
From: falsetti@polaris.unm.edu (Anthony B. Falsetti)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Re: REAL rugby players
Date: 21 Jan 93 05:44:40 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
NNTP-Posting-Host: polaris.unm.edu

Greetings all.  This is just a test.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
From: ramdwar@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Simone Lisa Hernandez-Ramdwar)
Subject: Canadian 7's team
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Distribution: universal
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:23:22 GMT


The Canadian team for the Canberra, Fiji, and Hong Kong 7's has been 
announced. They are:

Al Charron (Ottawa Irish/ONTARIO)
Ian Gordon (James Bay/BC)
John Graf (UBC OB/ BC)
Steve Gray (Kats/BC)
Julian Loveday (Calgary Irish/Alberta)
Dave Lougheed (Toronto Welsh/ONTARIO)
Gord MacKinnon (ExBrit-Lions/BC)
Pat Palmer (UBC OB/BC)
Scott Stewart (UBC OB/BC)
Chris Tynan (Meralomas/BC)
Coach: Ian Birtwell

An interesting selection with three scrumhalves (Loveday, Graf, and Tynan), 
although both Loveday and Graf play all over the backline. In fact, Graf is 
playing fly-half in France for Decazeville these days. As well, there are only 
three forwards in the team- Charron, MacKinnon and Gordon. All the BC 
players are form Vancouver, with the exception of Victoria's Ian Gordon. 

Jon Jenkins
Winnipeg Wasps RFC
From: scotty@piranha.cs.uoguelph.ca (Steve Howie)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Re: Rugby on the box
Date: 27 Jan 1993 14:40:41 GMT
Organization: University of Guelph
Reply-To: scotty@piranha.cs.uoguelph.ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: piranha.cs.uoguelph.ca

3349585@jeff-lab.queensu.ca writes
> I am a Scotsman missing my usual visits to 5N games at Murryfield this year  
so that I can freeze my but off on an exchange to Queen's University, Kingston,  
Canada.
> 
> By complete accident I caught the BBC's "Rugby Special" showing of the 5N  
Scotland v Ireland match earlier on today. It was on around 10.30am on channel  
14, Canadian cable TV. 
> Sadly, I only managed to catch the last 10 minutes!
> I had no idea that the program was shown across here and I enjoyed hearing  
Bill McLaren's comentry once again. Is this a regular occurance? If so could  
you tell me when it is shown?

You'll have to check your local TV listings .. TSN are notorious for  
last-second rescheduling and showng games

1. Just after you leave for work
2. Just before you get home from work
3. 4 a.m.

Moral: Get your VCR warmed up :)

Scotty

p.s. Yes, Bill McLaren could even make a curling match sound interesting !
	  one of a kind .....
From: D.A.Kinloch@newcastle.ac.uk (David Kinloch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Re: RFL results, 23/24 January
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:12:49 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

naicg@vax.oxford.ac.uk wrote:
: 
: News:
: Wigan have been thrown out of the World Sevens because the organisers declared 
: their squad wasn't strong enough (even after the inclusion of three
: internationals following a meeting with the RFL). The chance to play one, 
: or even two league games with a full strength squad will undoubtedly cushion 
: the blow somewhat.
      ^^^^

Is this a blow? I don't think so. Ask Widnes, I'm sure they'd prefer Wales
to be chucked out too..

The two-faced attitude in Australia is laughable. Until this season we've
seen weakened teams come to England for the World Club match
with a pile of ready-made excuses. And this is even AFTER the Australian
season has finished.

Why the Australians expect Wigan to send a 1st team mid-season, to play
in a warm-up tournament I don't quite understand. How about shifting
the Sydney sevens to June, at the end of the British season. We could
all see Canberra reserves (again). 

David Kinloch
From: grahamc@hpwin052.uksr.hp.com (Graham Cutting)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Re: Wales 100 England 0.
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:43:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpwin052.C1H2KJ.LIp
Organization: HP, Berkshire, England
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]


 (pete@vscn18.nohost.nodomain) wrote:
> Being a Welshman I take heart in seeing Webb wobble under a high ball;
> by Carling being knocked backwards in a tackle; by seeing Underwood pretend
> to attempt to tackle; by seeing the English lineout and scrum matched;
> by seeing a quiet back row, and in general by seeing an English team knocked
> back down to earth.

But it was the French!  Now they have mastered selection policy they will
become a real force.  It will be interesting to see how they continue in 
the 5N because I think they have one of the best packs in the 5N.

> The law of averages says that England have to lose soon so why shouldn't
> it be against Wales.

The French did everything they could, the "luck" going both ways, and England
with a unimpressive performance hung on.  If they get their act together
for Wales they shouldn't be beaten.  Famous last words, and I don't want to
be the one that gives them the Murray Walker kiss-of-death.  

> Wales's main weakness now is strength in depth especially in the backs, we
> can't pick everyone.
> I hope that Adrian Davies of Cardiff is given a chance. Now that Stephans
> has been dropped the choice at Fly half is between Davies , Jenkins and
> Clement but Clement is at his best at Fullback and must play there (tough
> for Rayer). There is a problem at hooker because of suspension and injuries.
> Garin Jenkins is out for 16 weeks for stamping, he argued that he was concused
> at the time and did not know what he was doing. Jim Mills believed him but the
> rest of the jury threw away the key.

The worst news for an Englishmen has been the dropping of Stephens.  Whoever
replaces will be on a debut of sorts, even if prev. capped.  Clement is an
excellent fullback and I reckon he will be there with prob. Jenkins at
fly-half because he can kick and has the experience.  

As for hooker Meek (sp?) who played for the Baabaas against Aus looked
v. useful to me.  It doesn't look like a real problem.  They only stick 
their foot out occasionally and plod around the park anyway ;-).

Cheers,
Graham

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Graham Cutting
grahamc@hpwin052.uksr.hp.com
Hewlett-Packard, Bracknell, Berkshire RG12 1HN, England
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From: pete@vscn18.nohost.nodomain ()
Subject: Wales 100 England 0. 
Reply-To: pete@vscn18.nohost.nodomain ()
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:34:52 GMT



 Being a Welshman I take heart in seeing Webb wobble under a high ball;
 by Carling being knocked backwards in a tackle; by seeing Underwood pretend
 to attempt to tackle; by seeing the English lineout and scrum matched;
 by seeing a quiet back row, and in general by seeing an English team knocked
 back down to earth.
 
 The law of averages says that England have to lose soon so why shouldn't
 it be against Wales.

 Wales's main weakness now is strength in depth especially in the backs, we
 can't pick everyone.
 I hope that Adrian Davies of Cardiff is given a chance. Now that Stephans
 has been dropped the choice at Fly half is between Davies , Jenkins and
 Clement but Clement is at his best at Fullback and must play there (tough
 for Rayer). There is a problem at hooker because of suspension and injuries.
 Garin Jenkins is out for 16 weeks for stamping, he argued that he was concused
 at the time and did not know what he was doing. Jim Mills believed him but the
 rest of the jury threw away the key.

 My team to play England:
				15 Gareth Edwards
                                14 Gareth Edwards
                                13 Gareth Edwards
                                12 Gareth Edwards
                                11 Gareth Edwards
                                10 Gareth Edwards
				 9 Gareth Edwards
                                 8 Gareth Edwards
                                 7 Gareth Edwards
                                 6 Gareth Edwards
                                 5 Gareth Edwards
                                 4 Gareth Edwards
                                 3 Gareth Edwards
                                 2 Gareth Edwards
                                 1 Gareth Edwards
From: grahamc@hpwin052.uksr.hp.com (Graham Cutting)
Subject: Re: Scotland name unchanged team for French game
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:45:51 GMT
Organization: HP, Berkshire, England
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

C M Brough (cmb@epcc.ed.ac.uk) wrote:
>Hastings (capt), Stanger, Hastings, Shiel, Stark, Chalmers, Armstrong,
>Watt, Milne, Burnell, Reed, Cronin, Turnbull, Weir, Morrison.

I see that Watt, the converted second-row with oak-tree legs, is still 
there.  What about the Bristol prop Sharp?  I thought that he was having
special treatment to be ready for the match.

>
>Replacements: K Logan, G Townsend, A Nicol, C Hogg, P Wright, I Corcoran
>
>Armstrong has been named vice-captain, a role he also fulfilled in the
>Ireland game.
>
>While I'm here, Garin Jenkins, Swansea's Welsh international hooker,
>has been suspended for 16 weeks after stamping on the head of Andrew
>Lamerton in a game against Llanelli. He will miss all of the rest of
>the 5-Nations, and is also out of the running for a summer Lions
>place.

Just a little addition; according to the teletext news, 10 weeks of the 
suspension was a prev. suspended sentence for head-butting an opponent.
Perhaps Wales are better off without him.  The replacement prop (whos
name I have forgotten) has canoed the Devise's to Westminister and came
6th (IIRR) and was also in a televised strong-man competition.  

>__________________________________________________________________________
>Colin Brough    cmb@epcc.ed.ac.uk      Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre

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From: gds@ikura.cs.uct.ac.za (Riel Smit)
Subject: Re: World Cup News
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Cape Town
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:17:10 GMT

Tracy Smith writes
> In article <1993Jan20.183555.20801@cs.nott.ac.uk>, cep@cs.nott.ac.uk (Charlie  
Pearce) writes:
> |> I heard on the Radio 5 sports news last night that the venue for the 1995
> |> Rugby World Cup was confirmed as South Africa, to be held in the summer of
> |> that year.
> 
> Whose summer do you mean?   June, July, August?  or November, December, Jan?

Pity them players if it is the southern summer.  We recently had places with  
temperatures above 50 degrees Celcius...

It wil be in the southern winter.
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Riel Smit                                                 gds@cs.uct.ac.za
Computer Science                             gds%cs.uct.ac.za@rain.psg.com
University of Cape Town      "..and he walked his days under African skies"
From: esutn@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr P M McFadian)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: England v France(long) and more
Date: 22 Jan 1993 15:49:37 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
Distribution: uk
NNTP-Posting-Host: clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk


	Before England play wales in Cardiff i suggest that they
	remove the fullback and get a better replacement(that won't
	be hard though cos if ther is no one else,i can catch a ball)
	If he does play,Wales best tactic would be to put the ball
	vertical towards Webb every time they get the ball and then
	stage a 15 man rush.
	I was surprised that webb was picked at all after terrible
	displays in other internationals.
	The French fullback showed heart and courage in taking
	some of the high balls,especially faced with a high tackle
	every time.It is no good having an excellent kicker in your
	side if he is constantly kicking to regain some of the points
	he has given away.I was impressed with Hastings the scottish
	fullback who knows when to come into the line with a straight
	and powerful run(something that doesn't happen to much these
	days since most backs kick the ball as soon as they receive
	it.It is no good having fast backs these days because tries
	are never scored through pace.They mostly come from other
	people's mistakes (and there are a surprising amount of 
	those at international level).Backs these days would be 
	better off with large thigh muscles for the big boot
	down field which inevitably happens every two minutes
	in rugby union.This game no longer flows and may soon
	become as boring as football.

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From: pete@vscn18.nohost.nodomain ()
Subject: Re: Wales 90 England 0.
Reply-To: pete@vscn18.nohost.nodomain ()
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 10:46:55 GMT


In article <14302@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, wscc90r@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Wilson Chiu) writes:
|> Path: dxcern!mcsun!Germany.EU.net!news.netmbx.de!mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE!math.fu-berlin.de!ira.uka.de!yale.edu!spool.mu.edu!agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!sot-ecs!wscc90r
|> From: wscc90r@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Wilson Chiu)
|> Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
|> Subject: Re: Wales 100 England 0.
|> Message-ID: <14302@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
|> Date: 27 Jan 93 08:40:32 GMT
|> References: <1993Jan22.103452.11551@dxcern.cern.ch>
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|> 
|> In <1993Jan22.103452.11551@dxcern.cern.ch> pete@vscn18.nohost.nodomain writes:
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> > Being a Welshman I take heart in seeing Webb wobble under a high ball;
|> > by Carling being knocked backwards in a tackle; by seeing Underwood pretend
|>      ^^^^^^^
|> 	yes, but he ran into about 3 French backs.....
|

    He shouldn't have been so stupid then
From: steve@cstr.ed.ac.uk (Steve Hiller)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Re: Ian McGeechan to quit as Scotland's rugby coach
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:46:28 GMT
Organization: Centre for Speech Technology Research, Edinburgh University

Disaster!
Increase his pay! Tie him to the posts!
Don't let that man go!
From: cmb@epcc.ed.ac.uk (C M Brough)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Scotland name unchanged team for French game
Date: 28 Jan 93 09:45:59 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre

Hastings (capt), Stanger, Hastings, Shiel, Stark, Chalmers, Armstrong,
Watt, Milne, Burnell, Reed, Cronin, Turnbull, Weir, Morrison.

Replacements: K Logan, G Townsend, A Nicol, C Hogg, P Wright, I Corcoran

Armstrong has been named vice-captain, a role he also fulfilled in the
Ireland game.

While I'm here, Garin Jenkins, Swansea's Welsh international hooker,
has been suspended for 16 weeks after stamping on the head of Andrew
Lamerton in a game against Llanelli. He will miss all of the rest of
the 5-Nations, and is also out of the running for a summer Lions
place.

__________________________________________________________________________
Colin Brough    cmb@epcc.ed.ac.uk      Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre
From: dbelliot@willamette.edu (David B. Elliott)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Taped Games
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:48:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: willamet.C1FGG9.7tJ
Organization: Willamette University, Salem OR

I have a request of the rugby community out there:

I have just become interested in the game, as I was told that I played to
hard for soccer :-), and I would like to see some real games.

I know that my club team isn't the greatest, but we have a few players who
have played on clubs in other nations and they are great. I would like to
see an example of great rugby.

Please email me at dbelliot@willamette.edu so I can arrange to get a copy
of a taped game. The format would be VHS. Thanks in advance.
From: dkramer@think.com (David Kramer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Re: World Cup News
Date: 23 Jan 1993 22:00:08 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: euler.think.com

>  Can you imagine how hard the grounds would be if they played during the
>  summer?! We have to be able to slide around in the mud, remember? 

I have some bad news for you. The Traansvaal and the OFS get virtually no
rain during the winter. The ground turns rock hard and the grass turns
white. There's not going to be any mud to slide around in, asphalt may be
more forgiving. Touring teams to SA typically have had to send for
replacement players because of the number of injuries caused by the harsh
grounds.

David
From: gds@ikura.cs.uct.ac.za (Riel Smit)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: New Souh African coaching pair
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:24:01 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Cape Town

For what it's worth, John Williams was recently (last week?) replaced as  
Springbok coach by Gerrie Sonnekus.  Johan Heunis (ex-Northern Transvaal  
full-back) is assistant coach.  Both held those positions in the Orange Free  
State last year.

Sonnekus is, I believe, the only player ever to play both in the pack (eighth  
man) and at the back (scrum-half I think) in a Springbok team.  Can't remember  
for which provincial team Sonnekus played - Free State?
--
Riel Smit                                                 gds@cs.uct.ac.za
Computer Science                             gds%cs.uct.ac.za@rain.psg.com
University of Cape Town      "..and he walked his days under African skies"
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From: grahamc@hpwin052.uksr.hp.com (Graham Cutting)
Subject: 5N Dates: Why a 3 week break?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:03:14 GMT
Organization: HP, Berkshire, England
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Just a quickie.  Something that puzzled me last year and does again this year
about the 5 Nations match schedule.

Why is there a three week break between one set of matches and two weeks for
all of the others?  I have looked at the other British and Irish competitions
and can see no clash.  Does anybody have any suggestions?

Graham

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Graham Cutting
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Hewlett-Packard, Bracknell, Berkshire RG12 1HN, England
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