From: usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns)
Subject: Re: What About Tibet? (Re: What about China done to Korea)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:03:23 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.224141.1238@news.acns.nwu.edu> usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu  
(Usenet on news.acns) writes:
> In article <l9q4hgINNs00@aludra.usc.edu> zyou@aludra.usc.edu (Zhongbai You)  
> writes:
> > In article <1992Aug26.192924.2705@news.acns.nwu.edu>  
usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu  
> (Usenet on news.acns) writes:
> > >>   Before those states got independence, there is no doubt about USSR's
> > >> sovereignty over those states. Those states later decided indepedence
> > >> after USSR collapsed. They became sovereignty countries.
> > >>   Your comparsion to Tibet does not make much sense. Tibet is still part
> > >> of China. China does hold sovereignty over Tibet. Why do you doubt it?
> > >> 
> > >
> > >Why can't I? Your explaination is not clear. Actually, I am not a promoter  
> of  
> > >Tibet Independence because I am not sure whether Tibet is a province of  
> China  
> > >or not. You simply should not treat a person with different opinion in a  
> brutal  
> > >way. 
> > >
> > 
> >    Should Tibet gain independence in the future, Tibet will be similar to
> > those USSR states. But Tibet IS part  of China up to now, you should not
> > compare Tibet with those indepdent countries.
> > 
> >    I am glad to hear that you are not promoting TI.
> > 
> >
> 
> Thanks! I like this post of yours better than the previous ones. But let me  
> point out that Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania gained independence before URRS  
> collapsed.
> 
>  
> > >> 
> > >>    I will never give up my land if the land  belongs to me by LAW.
> > >>                                                            =======
> > >
> > >
> > >Wait a minute! What kind of LAW are you talking about?! You always take  
> things  
> > >for granted. Don't forget, Janpanese occupied Taiwan by their LAW too.
> > 
> >      International law regarding territory integrity. China's sovereignty
> > over Tibet is recognized by most nations in the world, including US.
> > 
> 
> Before The above three countries gained their indepence, URRS's sovereignty  
> over them is also recognized by many nations in the world including China.  
Now  
> China has also recognized these three countries too. What do you think?
> 
> 
> >      Once again, you made a terrible mistake by comparing China to Japan.
> > Japan's invason of Taiwan is illegal, never recognized by other peace  
loving
> > countries.
> > 
> >
> 
> Again I am not a Tibet independence promoter. My point here is that it is up  
to  
> the people to decide their future. Why people in Illinois don't want to be  
> independent? Why people in Hawaii don't want to be independent although the  
> majority people there are non-white? Why Germans want to re-unite? Why so  
many  
> countyies in former USSR want to leave? Why Czech and Slovakia want to  
> seperate? I guess it's their choices, right? They vote for their futures. 
> 
> I bet you will feel difficult to show us that Tibet is a province of China. I  
> don't know, you don't know either. When you criticize others of being  
> "westernized", have you even thought that Chinese history books are also ones  
> of least to dependent on. You might remember that there are so many changes  
in  
> the Chinese history books according to the political needs.
>  
> > >
> > >>     The weakest person is the one who give up his property easily.
> > >> 
> > >
> > >The weakest and evilest persons are those who want to oppress other people  
> > >while they themselve are under oppression.
> > 
> >    Wait a second, I said that you are weak because you have  the 
> > tendency to give up your rights which are evidenced by many of
> > your postings.
> > 
> > 
> > Z. You
> 
> I did not promote giving up anything. I promote to think subjectively, not to  
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> take things for granted and be polite to other people with different  
opinions.  
> You may learn something you have never thought of from them and they will  
learn  
> from you too. In fact I disagree with Tasim in some aspects but I like the  
way  
> he faces all the personal attacks. I bet he was angry because he was treated  
so  
> brutally but he still has not lost his individual dignity.
> 
> Carl


Oops! my mistake! It should be "I promote not to think subjectively ... ".  
Sorry!

Carl
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