From: nverenin@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Spumoni the Fat Wok   )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000 & HYPE!
Date: 1 Sep 92 06:54:10 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <jbickers.0ebi@templar.actrix.gen.nz> jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers) writes:
>Quoted from <joe.715241690@milton> by amigo@milton.u.washington.edu (The Friend):
>
>> 	I should speak about hardware - the Amiga is getting thrashed now,
>> I suspect in a year there won't be much to say about the Amiga in terms of
>> at 800x600 (all with built-in windows acelleration for >$200)... the future
>>  promises a 1280x1024 card that does 256 colors at that res, 1024x768 with 16
>>  million colors - at a "reasonable price". 
>
>    The _present_ offers that for the Amiga.
>
>> 	So we've covered the additional hardware end of things - and
>
>    And come up with bogus rubbish. MODs, the highest form of micro
>    music I've ever come across, play perfectly well on the Amiga with
>    minimal system impact while playing.
>
>> 	Demos - demos on a PC? yes.. more Amiga-ites have bought PCs
>> in Europe and are creating demos very close to what the Amiga can do, some
>> even are better. Once the PC gets its video bus standard (local bus),
>
>    Geez, what a pack of blatant lies.
>
>> 						Joe Anon
>--

	Well, maybe not it's not an outright I-have-five-arms type
of lie, but it is definitely somewhat misleading. The only "Euro"
type demo I have on the 486 here (which I never use unless I have
to) is that funky rotating-balls deal. They heap praise on the Amiga
during that demo, such as, "Only Amiga made it possible", "inspired
by the Amiga" and blahblahblah. The demo was only so-so by Amiga
standards. It took that group a YEAR to code that PC demo. About 3
or four people on the development team, too! I have an Amiga demo
called "Violator" coded by ONE guy in TWO months that is both longer
and has a greater variety of neat effects. Let's see that whiz-bang
nuclear powered PC do some plasma effects in 4096 colors. Sure,
that's a totally useless thing to do with your computer, but I
didn't write the code.
	As for MODS, they are one of the many reasons I almost
exclusively use my Amiga. People in this discussion group and
elsewhere are always whining about "duh, Amiga no have THIS or
THAT and I can run BIG MEGA SPLAT DATABASE on my 486 with JULIENNE
FRIED VECTORS and WARPED SPLICER COSMOLOGY with TWIST of LIME!!!"
I have this to say: until that PC can run a tracker program like
MED3.20, OctaMED, or ProTracker, I won't be impressed. Anyone can do
graphics and cheezy FM music on a real fast ISA machine, even passable animation. But to write or listen to a MOD that sounds almost identical to
what you'd hear on the radio gives one a true feeling of
satisfaction, (not to mention doing it while downloading or moving
files around, hehe.) The Amiga might be all old and crusty and not
state-of-the art anymore, but if this is 100% correct, then HOW COME
we don't see those killer mega-demos or 8-channel Oktalyzer modules
on Jow Blow's 486 clone? The answer should be obvious, and if it
isn't, I'm not gonna tell you. So there, nyaaah.


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