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From: skenny@nano.engr.mun.ca (Shawn Kenny)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: USA go home (Was Re: Shooting)
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:05:11 GMT
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland

redmondd@unix1.tcd.ie (Judge Raz) writes:

>In <1992Apr14.202532.6159@pony.Ingres.COM> gmcquary@Ingres.COM (George F. McQuary) writes:

>>When faced with such arrogance in the sons of the people who did this to us,
>>it is  difficult NOT to cheer whenever someone blows up more British. 

>Just because the British gave us some hard times in the past doesn't give
>us (let alone a non-bona-fide Irishman) the right to cheer when someone
>gets killed by terrorists. Maybe you're desensitised by violence in the USA
>but I'm afraid most of us Irish still manage a bit of compassion when
>something like this happens.

Yeah I agree, regardless of the political/social situation in any part
of the world how can one applaud/"cheer whenever someone blows up more
<anyone>." George, would you think its OK for those responsible in the
Lockerbie incident to cheer? -- as they believe they done the correct
thing. On the same thread, I can agree with you on the past injustices
caused by the British (much the same as in N.A. with the indigenous
people).
--
=================================
skenny@pico.engr.mun.ca
St. John's, NF, CANADA
"Have a touton or do without'n !"
From: redmondd@unix1.tcd.ie (Judge Raz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: USA go home (Was Re: Shooting)
Date: 15 Apr 92 08:33:01 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <1992Apr14.202532.6159@pony.Ingres.COM> gmcquary@Ingres.COM (George F. McQuary) writes:

>When faced with such arrogance in the sons of the people who did this to us,
>it is  difficult NOT to cheer whenever someone blows up more British. 

Just because the British gave us some hard times in the past doesn't give
us (let alone a non-bona-fide Irishman) the right to cheer when someone
gets killed by terrorists. Maybe you're desensitised by violence in the USA
but I'm afraid most of us Irish still manage a bit of compassion when
something like this happens.

Lose the attitude problem George.

Judge Raz

redmondd@unix1.tcd.ie  |    ~~~    |  You got nobody now you want my soul 
Trinity College	       |    o-o    |  Now can't have none of that 
Dublin		       |     ^     |  Tell her whatta say Mace 
Ireland		       |    `-'    |  Say no go		-- De La Soul
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
From: ecr2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Corp. Reed)
Subject: Name Question...
Reply-To: ecr2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: not likely, and decreasing as time goes on.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 05:31:44 GMT

(Hi.  I'm not sure if this is the right group for this, and please
feel free to flame _by_mail_ if it isn't.)

I am trying to find out the origin of my name.  Most of my relatives
came from Scotland, so this seemed like the most likely place to
ask.  My name is (Edwin) Corprew.  I would really appreciate if
anyone has any ideas as to what this means/signifies or where it
comes from.

Thanks in advance,

-Corp Reed
corp@cs.uchicago.edu

(or, if your name is Corprew, give me a write.  I've never met anyone who
wasn't directly related to me who had that name, so It'd be neat.)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
From: asaranga@sunee.waterloo.edu (Andrew Sarangan)
Subject: Tartan Day
Keywords: Tartan
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:46:49 GMT



I heard on CBC that yesterday (Apr 6) was supposed to be Tartan's Day.
I assume it is a Scottish festival or celebration of some kind . Could 
someone enlighten me on that ?

Please email to my account.

Thanks 

Andrew
From: trifid@agora.uucp (Roadster Racewerks)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Liking Indiana (was Re: Sick'n'tired of the "Troubles"
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:26:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: agora.1992Apr10.162637.8260
Organization: Open Communications Forum



Indeed, Aengus! I should have added that to my posting..

Anyplace you can have "Catholic atheists" and "Protestant atheists", they are
NOT talking about religion!

It is painful to those of us that are somewhat religious to have this mess lain
on the church doorstep, so to speak, long after the respective churches (well,
most of them) have made peace.

As sad business, all in all...

Suze
From: bob@castle.ed.ac.uk (Bob Gray)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Scotland: Independance v Devolution
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:15:06 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre

billp@pcsbst.pcs.com (Bill Potter) writes:
>The Labour party has an awful lot of explaining to do to the Scots

We had the loudspeaker vans running around Edinburgh on
Saturday asking "What happened to the scottish
parliament, then?"

>In some ways this was the 2nd best result that the SNP could have 
>wished for. But they're not so bloody minded.

The loudest whingers are those who were so enthusiastic
about preserving the union by setting up a Scottish
parliament. They now seem surprised that Scotland isn't
going to get special treatment from those people
running westminster.
	Bob.
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From: ab0kfc@gdt.bath.ac.uk (K F Chow)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.cis
Subject: BMS survey
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:38:53 GMT
Organization: School of Architecture, University of Bath, UK

If you are an undergradate of engineering you may like to
do a questionnaire through email, on the subject "Building
Management Systems". This questionnaire is being done by 
your counterparts at USA, CAN, & UK. Comparison will be 
made between you and them.

If you know nothing about BMS but you know some others may 
do, please pass on the message.

Come and Join the party !!

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K.F CHOW                      email : ab0kfc@uk.ac.bath.sl1
School of Architecture &              ab0kfc@uk.ac.bath.gdt
Building Engineering,
Bath University, UK
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From: gsmith@bbn.com (Graeme Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: What does _cowardly_ mean?
Date: 10 Apr 1992 22:06:47 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund) writes:


> [ stuff deleted ]

>>
>>Cowardly is a term often applied to the IRA in that many of their attacks
>>are on defenceless civilians who have no way of defending themselves.  

>unless an accident occurs, and a bomb goes off prematurely, killing
>the planter and anyone around them, I believe I am quite
>accurate in saying that the IRA always notifys people that a bomb
>has been placed in a certain area and to move people out - 
>of course, the people receiving the call don't always pass on
>the information in a "timely" manner 

No, you are quite inaccurate

Graeme
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
From: cockburn@majors.enet.dec.com (Craig Cockburn)
Subject: Re: Two Celtic cultures -- two newsgroups
Organization: Digital Equipment Co. Ltd., Newbury, England
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 09:05:20 GMT


What about:

soc.culture.celtic.language  (for discussions in and about Celtic languages)
soc.culture.celtic.politics  (for general political discussion)
soc.culture.celtic.misc      (for everything else)

Craig

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  Views here are my own, and are not necessarily those of Digital
From: stevedal@tz.wimsey.bc.ca (Steve Dallas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: PAL-NTSC
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 14:10:24 PDT
Organization: Somewhere in The Twilight Zone, Vancouver, B.C

 Some of you may recall me posting a message about this some time ago, and 
here's the update.
 
 I checked around and unfortunately its a pretty hard tthing toget done 
inexpensively.
 
 Unless your city has a local chinatown you can visit, and hope that a video 
store proprietor has a PAL video machine on hand, your only bet is to go 
through the normal expensive channels of changing video-cassette formats.
 Odds are, or at least as it was in my case here in Vancouver, Canada, 
that the video store owner will have long ago realized that he had the 
market cornered and will want to cost you a similar arm and leg.
From: rouxclau@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Roux Claude)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: About Irish and Scot Quebecers
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:24:39 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

I would like to have some information about a very strange case. I've once
met a personne whose name was MacDuff. She could only speak French.
She told me she was coming from a small village near Montreal (Canada) where
everybody was of scotish origin, but everyone in her village could only
speak French.
 She even told me that when the mayor of this village went to Scotland in
the village of his ancestors he needed a translator to communicate.
 I don't know how a whole community could have been assimilated when you
know that English was the most important language in Quebec then (the English
people could hardly speak French). Is it possible that this population who
arrived during the nineteenth century didn't speak English and preferred to
assimilate to French rather than to English? The same thing also happened to
Irish people (For exemple the leader name of the independist party in Quebec
was Johnson and he was of Irish origin). A lot of Quebecers bear Irish names
and just speak French...

Claude
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic,uk.politics
From: cockburn@majors.enet.dec.com (Craig Cockburn)
Subject: SNP protest at Downing St
Organization: Digital Equipment Co. Ltd., Newbury, England
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:02:51 GMT


The Scottish National Party will be holding a protest at Downing Street
on Thursday, 14th May at 5pm. The aim of the protest is to draw attention
to the campaign for a Scottish Parliament. The press will be there, and
the demonstration has been legally approved.

If you would like to turn up, or wish more information, then give the
SNP HQ in Edinburgh a call.


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  Views here are my own, and are not necessarily those of Digital
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
From: derek@spock.retix.com (Derek Gallagher)
Subject: Re: Liking Indiana (was Re: Sick'n'tired of the "Troubles"
Organization: Retix, Santa Monica CA
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 19:55:39 GMT



In article <1992Apr4.212857.25332@macc.wisc.edu>, oconnell@vms.macc.wisc.edu
(Kevin Patrick O'Connell) says:
>
>I think Suze has hit the nail on the head.  Continue to read scc for
>the articles that ARE about culture, music, literature, Flann O'Brien
>:-), and so on, and send the rest out the chute.  I agree with the

I agree, Northern Ireland, Gays in New York and Irish Abortion laws
have absolutely nothing to do with Irish culture, decisions made in
these areas will have no affect on the Irish of tomorrow or their culture.

NOW FOR SOMETHING IMPORTANT------

My dead grannies dog is called tadgh, and I've been told that this is
an old Irish name, Anybody got more info on it ?.

The dog also had 6 pups and I was wondering if anybody has any suggestions
on what to call them, ( I was thinking something along the lines of
good old traditional Irish names).

Thanks in advance.........
-- 


===================================================================
			O.S.I Product Unit
Xref: sparky soc.culture.celtic:3391 soc.culture.british:5831 soc.culture.usa:2783
From: bruce@tcom.stc.co.uk (Bruce Munro)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Britain: Friend or Foe
Keywords: hula-hoop anti-british ramblings
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:29:52 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe, New Southgate, London.

In article <1992Apr3.191008.28942@pony.Ingres.COM> cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris) writes:
>And if a "massive runway" situated in a country as far away from the
>U.S. as Moscow is from London is a "potential threat" to the security
>of the most powerful mililtary power the world has ever seen, then the
>U.S. must be in even worse shape than I think it is. Pure humbug. A
>much more likely explanation is that it was "a faraway war that was
>clean and zappy" for home consumption to divert attention from the
>disasterous U.S. intervention in Beirut.

Another amusing fact to come out of this one was the American "revelation"
that the (shock! horror!) British company Plessey were involved, giving
the impression that superb intelligence had uncovered this dastardly
fact. In fact Plessey had not covered up their involvement at all, quite
the contrary. I remember reading a Graduate Opportunities book, which had
a section about Plessey. In it they mentioned the building of the airport
in Grenada, there was a picture as well. The CIA are obviously looking
in the wrong places for their info!

-- 
Bruce Munro.  <bruce@tcom.stc.co.uk> || ...!mcsun!ukc!stc!bruce
BNR Europe Ltd, Oakleigh Rd South, London N11 1HB. 
Phone : +44 81 945 2174 or +44 81 945 4000 x2174
"There are no strangers, only friends we don't recognise" - Hank Wangford
From: morna@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Morna J Findlay)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Scotland: Independance v Devolution
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:26:27 GMT
Reply-To: morna@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Morna J Findlay)
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U

In article <1992Apr14.124315.21075@ccsun.strath.ac.uk> duncan@ossian.uucp (Duncan C Thomson) writes:
>In soc.culture.celtic, billp@pcsbst.pcs.com (Bill Potter) writes:
>>
>>Maybe someone in Scotland (Chris, Bob, Jim) could tell us about
>>George Galloway's reaction to the results. I imagine that would
>>be quite interesting.
>
>>The sort of tactical voting that the British electoral system 
>>encourages is a hit and miss affair. In this case it was a 100% miss.
>
>It would have been far more succesful if the anti-Tory vote hadn't been
>split by the recent rise of Scottish Nationalism - about half the Tory
>seats were won by a very slim margin.  If even a small proportion of
>the electorate in these seats had thought before voting, we would now
>have a handful of Tory MPs in Scotland.


Recent articles in the papers I have seen suggest that "tactical voting"
may be largely a myth. At the same time as conducting a Poll in GG's
own seat ( Glasgow Hillhead) before the election, the Herald ( I think)
conducted a 'voter loyalty' poll. ie they asked people

1. If your party couldn't win, would you vote for someone else?
2. If you would, which party would that be?

70% of voters said they would NOT vote for another party. Highest
party loyalty was shown by the Nats ( 76%), the Tories and Labour
were about level on 68% or something like that, the SLD were most likely
to switch, but more than half of them wouldn't.


The spread of who the supporters of each party who would vote for
another party was less interesting, because of the small numbers who
would do so at all...


M

--
Morna Findlay 					JANET:morna@uk.ac.ed.dcs 
	Thanksgiving For a National Victory (Robert Burns)
Ye hypocrites! are these your pranks? To murder men and give God thanks?
Desist, for shame! Proceed no further: God won't accept your thanks for murther.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.celtic:3453 soc.culture.british:5950
From: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Joe Hendron takes West Belfast for the SDLP
Reply-To: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 08:12:41 GMT

--

While John Major was surprising the pundits by winning an overall majority
Joe Hendron secured a marvellous victory for the SDLP in West Belfast.
He unseated sitting Sinn Fein MP Gerry Adams.

This was one of the most keenly contested seats in Northern Ireland and
is a major boost for opponents on violence of any political persuasion.

While it will not make one iota of difference to the IRA's campaign of terror 
it will take away any semblance of a claim that they have a mandate for it.

Sinn Fein have now no member of parliament in the Republic or Northern Ireland
(it's a safe assumption that they won't win any of the seats being counted 
today).

The other seats counted last night were held by the sitting MPs - no real
surprises. North Down Jim Kilfedder, East Belfast Peter Robinson, South
Belfast Martin Smyth, I think South Antrim was also counted but anyway
Clifford Forsythe is safe there.  Cecil Walker took North Belfast.

|---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |

          U.S.A. here we come

          God thinks he's Jackie Charlton

       Gary Spain, DEC, Galway, Ireland   - spain@galvia.enet.dec.com

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Xref: sparky soc.culture.celtic:3375 soc.culture.british:5803 alt.society.civil-liberty:3246
From: allens@yang.earlham.edu (Allen Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic,soc.culture.british,alt.society.civil-liberty
Subject: Re: British Bill: of Rights? of Goods?
Date: 5 Apr 92 20:48:30 GMT
 <1992Mar31.194956.4472@Csli.Stanford.EDU> <14705@optima.cs.arizona.edu> <1992Apr2.190059.8868@Csli.Stanford.EDU>
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <1992Apr2.190059.8868@Csli.Stanford.EDU>, scobbie@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Jim Scobbie) writes:
> In <14705@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
> 
>>Oh really??? How nice of you to inform "us" of that. Geezuz - what would we
>>do if we didn't have Europeans to tell us how hard we have it - oh my - you
>>posted from Stanford! I guess I must re-think my views eh??? Compared to
>>the existing govts. in power over "the pond" I think I'll sleep pretty well
>>tonight.... when "we" reach the point that we have an occupational force in 
>>say Canada, or perhaps refuse to allow a raped teenage girl to leave the
>>country - then come back and tell me how bad things are in the US 
> 
> Ok, I'll not say a word about the US arrogantly thinking it is better than
> everywhere else until the unimaginable happens in your country -
> say that you have sickening murder rates, that
> you confiscate land and ignore treaties with your native Indian peoples,
> when you ban publicly funded doctors from mentioning abortion as an option,
> when there is no free ante-natal care and your infant mortality creeps in
> at double Japan's rate, when you have the death sentence, a corrupt
> police, 200 million firearms spread around the country, when you
> support rightwing dictarorships in central and south america.
> 
> I expect you will sleep pretty well tonight. You'll be a nice white middle
> class American with bolts on your door. Oh, and the girl *was* permitted to
> leave the country. When your supreme court allows states to ban abortion
> later this year and similar girls have to leave the state the
> situation will be entirely analogous. Oh, and Eire has a constitution,
> like your own, so don't tell me you think constitutions are so
> wonderful.
> 
> Britain is hardly the best placein the world, but to hear someone whittering
> on about the great USA, and that the UK parliament, unfettered by
> constitution (and 'checks and balances' too, you seem to suggest) is
> more able to pass criminally insane legislation than the USA, is pathetic.
> 
> That's all. If you don't get the point that you're not in the best country
> in the world, and that other places (like the UK/Ireland) are actually equally
> pleasant and fair, then that's up to you. 
> 
	Pleasant and fair? Anyplace where there are violations of civil 
liberties is neither pleasant nor fair.
	The US admittedly has its problems with such violations- such as 
the recent Unconstitutional ruling by the Supreme Court that homosexual 
activity may be prohibited by law. But I don't think Ireland or Britain 
are any better, given such things as (in Ireland) church-state barrier 
violations or (in England) lack of free speech/press (Official Secrets 
Act). I don't know of any country that I'd call pleasant or fair.
	-Allen
From: mike@fionn.lbl.gov (Michael Helm)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Why the English are to blame for Everything
Date: 16 Apr 1992 06:53:47 GMT
Organization: N.I.C.E.
Reply-To: mike@fionn.lbl.gov (Michael Helm)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.128.60

pac9897@zeus.tamu.edu (SMELLS LIKE JOHN MAJOR....) writes:
>It is a well known fact that the English are to blame for everything,
>here are some well known examples where the English scum played a key role
>in causing distress and trouble to others:

You left out The Dismal Science, you know, Adam Smith, Keynes,
desk space for Karl Marx, &c?

Oh.  You weren't serious.  Forget I said this.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
From: kyle@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Kyle Wohlmut)
Subject: Beer drinkers unite
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Distribution: public, world
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:55:29 GMT

Newsgroups: alt.beer, soc.culture.celtic, soc.culture.german, soc.culture.europe
From: kyle@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Kyle Wohlmut)
Subject: Enough talk!  Time for beer!
Followup-To: kyle@csli.stanford.edu, alt.beer
Summary: Coaster exchange program
Keywords: coasters, beer-mats, Schlitten, stamps
Organization: Rocking Pig Enterprises
Distribution: public, world
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 21:43:33 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.190048.25729@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>,
mgw@weejordy.physics (Martin "That's Right" White) writes:

> Hello to beer drinkers worldwide.

Quite a powerful way to start a message, especially for this
newsgroup... so I'll echo it on this message, in which I'm making a
modest proposal.  Greetings to all beer fanciers, everywhere; everyone
having a beer, recently having had a beer, or looking forward to their
next beer.

This request goes out to all readers of alt.beer, but particularly our
European residents... I recently moved my place of residence and as I
was packing up, I noticed how lacking my collection of coasters is
becoming.  I used to have a prized collection of beermats (Ich glaube,
der wort ist auf Deutsch "Untersetzer," nicht wahr?), but over the
years I've lost a lot of the great ones due to overuse, spillage,
misplacement, or just plain giving them away.  I'd like to get my
collection back up to snuff, so if there's anyone out there who would
help me, perhaps someone of similar interest, I'd be very grateful.
If you'd care to take a moment next time you're in your favourite pub,
whether it's in three months, or three hours, grab a local coaster,
stick it in an envelope and mail it to me (my boss collects stamps, so
this should work out great, if anyone participates).  I'll gladly
reciprocate by sending one from California, or any other California
curiosity as long as it's small and comparatively easy to mail.  

If there's any interest, e-mail me to exchange addresses and let's do
it.  Thanks for your time, and to everyone else, sorry for the
comparatively low beer-content of this post.  But hey, where would we
be without beermats?

-/-/-/-/-/-/
Kyle
'Another disappearing thing is the casual vomit.' --Billy Connolly
/-/-/-/-/-/-


From Csli!kyle Thu Apr  9 15:14:45 PDT 1992
Article: 3776 of alt.beer
Newsgroups: alt.beer