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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: hey cliff...
Organization: University of Michigan
	<92318.150913RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
	<1992Nov15.081130.11481@tamsun.tamu.edu>
	<Ef20hC600VqTAFqVQz@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:20:56 GMT

In article <Ef20hC600VqTAFqVQz@andrew.cmu.edu> Mike Molloy <mmaq+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

   > Hey Cliff, what's the name of that damn Miami bird mascot?


   > - goober (racking my brain trying to figure it out) smith


   The bird's name is Sebastian the Ibis.  According to legend,
   the ibis is the last bird to leave it's nest when a hurricane hits.

How many other birds does it usually have in there with it?  

Bill
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett)
Subject: Re: Michigan, ND, Miami etc ...
Reply-To: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett)
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:55:05 GMT

News-Software: NN 6.4.16

In <1992Nov23.134341.12688@news.nd.edu> rszczerb@monet.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba) writes:

| In article <7283@news.duke.edu> ds4@soc11.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS) writes:
| >
| >Yea right....like the Canes would even bother with a pathetic team such as the
| >cowering chickens....ah I mean the fighting irish.
| >|> 
| >
| 
| Yea right ... the last time Miami played ND the Mightly Hurricanes lost.
| As a matter of fact, ND has runined Miami's MNC hopes twice in the last 4 
| years.  Could it be that Miami is the cowering chickens? :) :) :)

No way man.  The leprechauns are on our most wanted list.   Even the most
loyal ND fan knows the truth, " ND doesn't want to get beat by Miami ". 
That's why the leprechauns play Navy every year, even after beating Navy 
for 29 years in a row.  Now ND's added NorthWesters.    Creampuffs.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: tino@yogi.metray (Vinny Tino)
Subject: Re: Bobby Bowden won't give me a job!
Reply-To: tino@yogi.metray
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:45:47 GMT

In article 4977@mlb.semi.harris.com, dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com (David Head) writes:
>
>If, by "the only other Nole on the net" you mean actively enrolled, I don't
>know.  I am a Nole alum (91, Electrical Engineering) and have been anxiously
>following as well as I can in the paper down here in Palm Bay.  (We get the
>Florida Today, which actually seems to be University of Florida Today.  I
>need to subscribe to the Democrat again!).  I am sure there are quite a few
>alum and many Nole fan lurkers out there.  How 'bout them #3 (AP, the one that
>counts in the Bowl Coalition) Noles!!!
>
>D. Head

Just seems that for a NUMBER 3 ranked team, there are not many fans of FSU on the 
net.  As for the coverage of Nole sports, forget the Mulletwrap (Democrat), and
subscribe to the Osceola for the ultimate Nole sports coverage...  It's good to 
hear another Nole on the net...

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From: jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich)
Subject: Re: Hail to Those Motherf***ers...
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:49:35 GMT

oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:

>In article <Bxx7Mt.En6@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> landers@mentor.cc.purdue.edu  
>(Hazard Class Mage) writes:

>> The Assholes of the World!!

>"The Cesspool of the West!" has a better ring to it, in my mind.

Orin , about that ringing in your head, I know a good doctor....oh never mind!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: gibson@b11.b11.ingr.com (Stanley)
Subject: Iron Bowl
Keywords: anti-woof
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:29:45 GMT

OK it's here. Iron Bowl week. Most people are picking the Tide to
roll over Auburn like an 18 wheeler over a decaying road kill. To
insure this I will apply some anti-woofing. Let's compare the
results of the six common opponents they faced.

		Alabama		Auburn
Vandy		+17		+24
S. Miss		+7		+8
Arkansas	+27		Tie (They wuz robbed. Shoulda won by
				     at least 21)
Ole Miss	+21		-14 (This was early in the season,
				    on the road and a TON of bad breaks)
LSU		+20		+2  (Auburn had a big lead and went
				    to sleep)
Miss St		+9		-7  Bama should have lost by 10

Based on this Auburn is the superior team and should prevail by
10-14 points. All we can hope for is an upset by the Tide!!

Roll Tide!!
Stanley
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: Huskers lose. Mega-Major Bummer!!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:55:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.162452.24620@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson) writes:
>
>Orange Bowl? Well we shall just see who Nebraska's opponent is.   ;^)
>Kansas in a bowl? It would be a crime if they were overlooked.
>Fiesta Bowl for Colorado? Awe who cares.   ;^)
>Oklahoma? Slim after the Nebraska game.

I never thought I'd say this.. anyways, here goes...

GO OU!!! BEAT THE HELL OUT OF BIG DUDS FROM LINCOLN!!!!

>Husker Henderson

Njan
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
Subject: Re: AP make FSU #3
Organization: Florida State University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 06:06:17 GMT


+ And before you tell anyone else how FSU has trounced everyone except Miami,
+ I suggest you review the Georgia Tech game.

+ Jim Thomas
+ Penn State

You mean that lousy 5-5 GaTech team? The one that lost most of it's
starting defensive line to injuries? The one that came within a hair
of beating FSU? The one that lost to Baylor? and had been beat by
TAMU???

Ok, that last one was a cheap shot... :)

James 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: corsol@byron.u.washington.edu (Lee Corso)
Subject: I'M BACK!!
Reply-To: corsol@u.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:39:00 GMT


Have fear, Lee Corso's here...
My picks for this Saturday:

Miami 56, Syracuse 14

Michigan 35, TOSU 12

Alabama:  Who cares?
TexasA&M: Who cares?

FSU 100, no opponent 0

WSU 28, UW 17

UCLA 42, USC 21           Tommy "Gun" Maddox works his magic again.  Mazio 
                          Royster's performance for USC is not good enough to
                          beat the mighty upset-minded Bruins...

Nebraska:  Will lose.  Buncha wimps...  and that Dr. Tom or whatever doesn't
           know how to run a program...

Notre Dame:  Will win, as Lou Holtz will have two officials in head locks...

ASU 21, Arizona 13        The Sun Devil offense comes to life as the whole 
                          ASU team taunt and trash-talk their way to victory.

That's it...  I'll be back next week to wrap up FSU vs. Florida (but really,
  we all know that FSU will win :)

Please send my regards to that fine young man Dave Meeks...

-Lee :)


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett)
Subject: Re: Canes in the Graves-yard!
Reply-To: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett)
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:14:54 GMT

News-Software: NN 6.4.16

In <1992Nov18.140724.771@cpqhou.compaq.com> chuckd@cpqhou.compaq.com (Chuck Dickson) writes:

| in article <1992Nov17.043522.15976@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>, saqx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu says:
| > 
| > Miami visits the Carrier Dome this Saturday for a game that will decide
| > which team plays for the national championship on January 1.  So come on, 
| > all you fans that "dislike" the Hurricanes with a passion---pull for the
| > Orange this weekend!  Pray for us; we'll need it!  But no woofing, please;
| > restrict statements of optimism to nothing stronger than "I think they 
| > can give Miami a game".  Thanks for your support.  
| > 
| >                         COME ON, ORANGEMEN!
| 
| This game has the potential to show how ludicrous the Big East's champion
| is determined this year.

Chuck nobody cares about the Big East title,  Miami and Syracuse are after
the real thing.  I have yet to see any one at Miami that's even cares 
they won the Big East last year.

Conferences trophy rings should come out of a box of Craker Jacks.  


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From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: Notre Dame in the South
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:32:30 GMT

Mark Mitchell writes:

>Can you elaborate on this?  Did Notre Dame get a "very ugly reception"
>in Birmingham, AL or Clemson, SC or Baton Rouge, LA or Jackson, MS or
>at any other place they have played "down south" in recent memory?
>Or are you really just talking about Miami, which is hardly representative
>of the south?

On a recent trip to Notre Dame (to watch hockey) I asked a new professor what 
she thought made the student body (at Saint Mary's, not Notre Dame) different 
from other places she has taught.  She said, "Pat, maybe you haven't noticed, 
but they're Catholic!"

I think this has something to do with the strong dislike which follows Notre 
dame in the South.  When I was a student under the dome, the Irish were not at 
all well recieved for their game vs. LSU.  I also have been informed (from a 
friend who is an alumnus of Alabama-Birmingham) that there is still a great 
deal of ill feeling revolving around a certain Orange Bowl victory in 1974 and 
a national championship in 1977.  I can't imagine what he means! :-)

I haven't heard as many ugly stories from venues in the South as I have heard 
from games played in the Orange Bowl.  In fact, I have heard worse things about
games played at Pitt!

     - Pat
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: fichigan fumbles
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:43:37 GMT

In article <BxtF22.Hn1@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> gtao@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Greg ) writes:
> ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:

> If you are insinuating that Michigan has a prayer at a national championship
> this year, you are even more naive than you are rude and arrogant.

Maybe he's just saying it's time to switch to r.s.basketball.college now.

--
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From: scott@ods.com (Scott Harper)
Subject: Re: Super Conference to end East Coast Bias...
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:33:18 GMT

robert.dieckmann (rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com) wrote:
: In article <1em1e8INNga1@agate.berkeley.edu> hackett@ocf.berkeley.edu (William Hackett) writes:
: > 
: > 
: > 
: 
:      [ Coherent sentences deleted. ]
: 
: 
: What "East Coast Bias?"

Yeah, *everyone* knows that its the "East Carolina" bias... and they're
having a really bad year.
-- 
Scott Harper                       Optical Data Systems, Inc.
scott@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
(214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: steph@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson)
Subject: Re: HAWKEYE BOWL CHANCES
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 07:02:14 GMT

In <1992Nov18.035208.24658@netcom.com> alc@netcom.com (Chris Stassen) writes:

[...]
>There will be *much* worse teams playing in bowl games (e.g., #62 Bowling
>Green, #77 Air Force) this year.  Hell, several other teams (#33 North
>Carolina, #34 Boston College, #37 Texas, #38 Washington State, #43 San
>Diego State, and #57 Hawaii) aren't arguably better than Iowa and yet are
>likely (if not certain) to get bowl bids.

Your ratings may be impartial, but they may be incorrect.  Air Force doesn't
have a great team, but neither does Iowa.  I don't think Air Force is *much*
worse than the Hawkeyes.  I also doubt Iowa would muster a .500 record against
NC, BC, Texas, WSU, SDSU, and Hawaii.  Though they wouldn't lose them all,
either.

-- 
Dale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic

  "It is considered good to look wise, especially when not 
   overburdened with information" -- J. Golden Kimball
From: sting@hfglobe.intel.com (Joe Bennett)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Michigan - National Championship - Not with Moeller
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:48:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: hfglobe.BxvDDE.IzB
Organization: Intel Corporation

In article <Bxv8LG.Fnw@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> jones@venus.iucf.indiana.edu writes:
>In article <4=F=CXA@engin.umich.edu>, chyang@exemplum.engin.umich.edu 
>(Chung Hsiung Yang) writes...
>> 
>>	$Cool 6 Mil$ is not bad.  And with a name like Michigan, recruiting
>>is not going to be affected anytime soon.  I think it is more of a business
>>decision than anything else.  Being from Michigan you know how $$$ is more
>>important than Nat Champ.  As far as Athletic DEPT. is concerned Nat Champ
>>is no big deal as long as they have $$$ to support the rest of other sports.
>>It is quite consistent with the programs philosophy.
>> 
>>- Chung Yang
>Michigan does not get $6M for going to the Rose Bowl. The Big 10 gets the $6M 
>and Michigan gets a double share by virtue of going to the bowl (2/11)*$6M.
>And just how many more years is the Rose Bowl going to be able to offer that 
>kind of payout when it is consistently irrelevant to the NC and gets out drawn 
>on TV by the games that are relevant?


You *really* better check the facts, pal.  The Rose Bowl is one of the highest
ranked games on January 1.  Only the Orange Bowl does better, and they have to
rely on cheesy, elctro-light-lip-synching-choreographed-dance-o-thons to
provide an added incentive to watch.  Add to that a last second all out effort
to get a team some haughty pollsters think is number one, and frankly I'm not
too impressed with that game.

IMO
Joe
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: A&M Marching Band Thread (Shouldn't be according to Brian: Re: Best looking cheerleaders in college)
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:37:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.223910.26982@hou.amoco.com> zjsg12@hou.amoco.com (Jeffry  
S. Gracey) writes:

> of the Rice Student section. Seems they blew whistles and shot cap guns in an
> attempt to disrupt the fine precision of the FIGHTIN' TEXAS AGGIE BAND, which
> uses such whistles to direct their precise moves and turns. Since your band
> is too wimpy to try such maneuvers, maybe you wouldn't know these things.:)

Maybe their band-members can count to figure out when they're supposed
to turn.  The FIGHTIN' TEXAS AGGIE BAND must have the Faber College playbook
down pat.

> Class of '91. Once an Aggie, Always an Aggie !

Class of '91.  Once a Dookie, Always was a troublemaker!

--
************* "How about a little fire, Scarecrow?" **************
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*******"Think that this is NASA's opinion?   NO, NO, NO!!!" ******
From: rszczerb@boole.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Excessive Celebration Penalty
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:57:30 GMT
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame

In article <BxvLqA.99A@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tktg6901@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Timothy Tsai) writes:
>mbs@zycor.lgc.com (Matt Shostak) writes:
>This is true.  I was noticing how during the discussion of the bad calls in the
>BYU-Notre Dame game, nobody mentioned the Mirer interception that was ruled a
>dropped ball.  The replay clearly showed an interception.

Clearly to who ?  It looked like a dropped ball to me.

	- rob
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From: rwturner@IASTATE.EDU (Richard W Turner)
Subject: Re: Iowa has lost to Minnesota!
Reply-To: rwturner@IASTATE.EDU (Richard W Turner)
Organization: Iowa State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:43:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.033612.25585@serval.net.wsu.edu>,
jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer) writes:
> Now, even the Copper Bowl can't take the pitiful Hawkeyes.
> They couldn't even manage to get that 6th win over the
> Gophers!!!  Hee, hee.  We need say no more... Iowa's true
> colors showed tonight.
   
  When I heard the score, I fell out of my
  chair laughing.  This proves how unworthy the
  Hawkeyes really were, something I knew all 
  along.
 
> 
> Final: Iowa      13
>        Minnesota 28
>
    Now Washington State won't get shafted. 
   It just goes to show that there is justice in the
   world after all.  The hawkeye fans are now
   crying in their beer.  Tough Shit - chokeyes.

> Just gives me a warm feeling all over to see those Copper
> Bowl people lose their favorite Big-10 pet.
  
  Ditto
> 
> Jim
> -- 

Richard Turner
Go Hurricanes.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: rszczerb@cezanne.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Subject: Re: Excessive Celebration Penalty
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:14:39 GMT

In article <BxsKJ5.7C7@encore.com> jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett) writes:
>News-Software: NN 6.4.16
>
>In <1992Nov15.043905.16588@leland.Stanford.EDU> gsroka@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gregory Sroka) writes:
>
>| It's poetic justice that on the day Michigan played for a tie
>| against an unranked team, ND goes for the win and finally beats
>| Penn State again! ND could have kicked the extra point for a tie.
>| This should silence those Holtz bashers. He was going for the
>| two point conversion all the way.  And the fourth down TD and
>| conversion, both with passes, show Mirer's potential as a great QB.
>| You don't risk losing the game (and hurting your Bowl status) 
>| without great confidence in your QB.
>
>How could you hurt ND Bowl status.  All they have to do is win 7 games
>and they get a Major NYD game at the Orange, Cotton, Sugar or Fiesta.
>Win, lose or draw ND gets to play at one of the big bowls.
>
Yes, ND gets to go to a Bowl on Jan 1, but their final ranking
at the end of the season will play a big part in which bowl they
go to and who they end up playing.


		- Rob


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Subject: Re: Holiday Bowl (Re: HAWKEYE BOWL CHANCES)
Keywords: travesty
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:34:58 GMT

In article <17644@borg.cs.unc.edu> morse@cs.unc.edu (Bryan Morse) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.150509@IASTATE.EDU>, rwturner@IASTATE.EDU (Richard W Turner) writes:
>|> If Iowa beats Minnesota this weekend and
>|> Michigan state loses to Illinois, both very
>|> real possibilities, then Iowa will be (6-6) and
>|> will receive a bid to play in the Holiday Bowl.
>   ^^^
>   may

	No!

>As has already been repeated over and over here, the Holiday Bowl has
>an escape clause that allows them to decline to invite the Big-10
>third-place team if they have fewer than eight wins.  (My guess is
>that they want to any replay of 1984.)

	You probably don't know this Bryan, but the Holiday Bowl publicly
	announced either Sunday night or Monday morning that it indeed
	*would* honor the deal with the Big Ten.  They then laid out
	the possibilities:

	- If MSU wins, they get the bid (6-5)

	- If Illinois wins, and Iowa wins, Iowa gets the bid (6-6)

	- If Illinois wins, and Iowa loses, Illinois gets the bid (6-4-1)

	What those bowl folks didn't tell us is what happens if Illinois
	and MSU tie!  I suspect that MSU would still get the nod, because
	of their better conference record than the other two.  But, their
	overall record would be 5-5-1...  I think the Holiday Bowl is
	simply looking ahead.  Remember, last year they got a 10-1 Iowa
	team, and they don't want to kill a potentially lucrative
	arrangement just because of one bad year...

	Does anybody besides me remember the Iowa State team from the
	early 1970s, coached by Johnny Majors, that got a bowl bid
	with a losing record?  The record 4-7 even seems to stick in
	my mind.  They were pretty good, but...

>
>There's very little chance that a 6-6 team would be invited to the
>Holiday Bowl (or any other for that matter).

	See above...
-- 
-------------------------------
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| Illinois State Water Survey |
| peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu    |
From: weyland@sn.jsc.nasa.gov (WEYLAND,MARK)
Subject: Re: A&M beats TCU...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Arizona MIS Department - Mosaic Group
Date: 19 Nov 1992 20:43 CST  

In article <1992Nov19.214314.14128@mlb.semi.harris.com>, jphillip@comanche.ess.harris.com writes...
>>Mark Weyland writes
> 
>> Just to shut them up.  (they, 
>>r.s.f.c fsu, sure do talk a lot of shit)
> 
>As you found out last year in Cotton-A&M bowl, we also come to play.
>Oh yeah, if you show up this year, bring an offense. There were an 
>awful lot of cold lips at last years game.
> 
>J.P.

 	I deserved that, nothing personal to most of the FSU supporters.  
If we meet again I think we found our offense, I'm glad we found Corey 
Pullig when we did.
***May the best team win the MNC***

GIG'EM  AGS!!!

Mark Weyland
Texas A&M University - Class of '88
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