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From: scott@asd.com (Scott Barman)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Info wanted on consulting company...
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:22:27 GMT
Organization: American Software Development Corp., West Babylon, NY

A friend called me last night and wanted my opinion on Computer Sciences
Corporation because he recently received an offer from them for an
assignment.  The only thing I can remember about them is a bad
experience another friend had.  But that was almost 10 years ago.  So to
be fair I told my friend I ask around.

OK, so are there any opinions on Computer Sciences Corp?

THANKS!
-- 
scott barman			| <This space intentionally left blank>
scott@asd.com			|
 (I can barely speak for myself, you expect me to speak for my employer??)
From: adm@neuro.duke.edu (Alan Magid)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: Recruiters, Brokers and pirahnas ..
Date: 13 Aug 92 10:40:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: DP Pros/The Blethen Group


Two points:
1. All for-profit enterprises require that the work product of its
employees cost less than its market value.
2. Most of the consultants under contract to The Blethen Group are
our _permanent_ employees. They receive full fringe benefits and a
competitive salary.  It is the obligation of marketing types (such as
myself) to find them projects to use their professional skills on.
Between assignments, they continue to receive full compensation. I don't
think of us as 'piranas' but as employers.
        Alan Magid
        Director of Marketing
        CTSS/The Blethen Group
        PO Box 1815
        Burlington, NC 27216
From: btarbox@sw.stratus.com (Brian Tarbox)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: jury duty
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:35:08 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

Since I'm a contractor I have no employer to pay me for time
spent on jury duty...are there any tax breaks or anything for
losing 3 days of pay, or is this just another place where
contractors lose out?
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: larry@acts.uucp (Larry Palmer)
Subject: software royalties
Organization: Active Software Inc.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 12:46:58 GMT


Lately I've been looking at a couple of jobs where it seems a royalty
agreement might be more appropriate than a fixed consulting fee
(client doesn't have a lot of cash right now, wants a very
self-contained general-purpose piece of software written, might sell a
zillion boxes using it).

Does anyone have any experience with how such agreements are
structured?"  My questions would be:

1) What's a typical rate?  Is it a fixed price per unit sold,
   percentage of gross, percentage of net?  Any or all of the above?

2) Is it typical that the rate would increase/decrease with time
   and/or units sold? 

3) Would it unusual to agree on a small fixed price up front, in
   addition to royalties?

4) How is verification done?  Does the company automatically provide a
   yearly statement of units sold, open its "books", or what?  It
   seems that this could cause awkwardness, even in the best of
   business relationships.  And doesn't revealing units sold give away
   valuable competitve info?

5) Anyone have any good or bad personal experience with such
   arrangements? 

Thanks in advance...

-- 
Larry Palmer 508-266-1334 (v/f)           |   Active Software, Inc.
uunet!acts!larry, or                      |   20 Ethan Allen Drive
larry%acts@uunet.uu.net                   |   Acton, MA 01720
From: comen@interlan.Interlan.COM (Jim Comen)
Subject: DSP56000 contract position
Organization: Racal InterLan, Inc., Boxborough, MA (1-800-LAN-TALK)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 14:45:03 GMT


                   * DSP56000 Contract Position *

The bridge/router group of Racal Datacom has a four month contract position
available.  The position calls for an engineer who is quite fluent with
DSP56000 assembly language.  Any knowledge of communications is a plus but not
considered necessary.  The engineer will make modifications and enhancements
to modules of an existing bridge product which are written in DSP56000 assembly
language.

If you are interested, please call Jim Comen at (508) 263-9929 x378 or
send a resume to
	
	FAX:    (508) 263-8655
	MAIL:	Jim Comen
		Racal Datacom
		155 Swanson Rd
		Boxborough, MA 01719
From: dfavor@logan.tivoli.com (David Favor)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: 1706 Repeal Debated
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:09:52 GMT

>1706 does NOT change the definition of a common law employee. It just
>puts the burden of proof more on the employer than on the IRS, and makes
>it easier for the IRS to apply penalties.

actually this is a point I really hadn't considered... based on the IRC
definition of a common law employee... it makes sense, in most cases, to
keep an S Corporation around to receive funds... hum... and I had been
considering shutting down my Corporation... probably a poor choice.
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill)
Subject: Re: firm requests comments
Keywords: consulting,1099,401K,referral
Organization: Virtual Technologies Inc.
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 11:00:28 GMT

dfavor@logan.tivoli.com (David Favor) writes:

>|> Enquireing minds, of course, wonder why you are excepting 1099's if you are
>|> incorporated?  The 1099 exists solely for individuals, sole proprietors, and
>|> partnerships.  Corporations have no such requirement.

>I work for my own Corporation. the Prime Contractors I work with that will
>establish a relationship report payments to my Corporation on a 1099 form...
>it sounds as if your Corporation's revenue stream is reported in a different
>manner... if your Corporation doesn't receive 1099s what form(s) does your
>Corporation receive?

Corporations aren't supposed to get 1099s.  1099s are for reports of individual 
income.  There is no current requirement for reporting inter-corporation 
payments.

-- 
*** SENTINEL(tm) The ultimate Debugging Environment - email for more info ***

Conor P. Cahill              (703)430-9247            cpcahil@virtech.vti.com
Virtual Technologies, Inc.  46030 Manekin Plaza          Dulles, VA 21066
Organization: Scientific Placement, Inc.
X-Charset: MACINTOSH
From: LEJ@spi.com (LeAnn Jones)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:05:10 CST    
Subject: SF Bay-Mac/Vax Connectivity 
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Distribution: na

Job Title & Location

SF Bay-Mac/Vax Connectivity
Our client in the Bay area has a short term contract lasting 2 months for a 
Macintosh to Vax software connectivity specialist- Pathworks a must.  
This is a well-paying assignment in a rapidly growing financial systems 
environment.  Downtown San Francisco work location.

Successful candidate will be on SP Services payroll and assigned to client's

office.  SP Services, in addition to base salary, provides a Section 125 
Cafeteria Plan, plus a 401(k) plan.

Please send resume to:
Dan Redwine
SP Services, (713) 497-0983
dar@scientific.com

Formats: Ascii text via Email preferred. Macintosh or PC Word processor
formats are OK via Email (binhex). Please do not send LaTex or
Postscript.Fax is discouraged unless Fine Setting on your fax machine is
used (to enable OCR scanning). US Mail on 3.5 inch diskette is OK too.

Immigration status: You must be a U.S. or Canadian Citizen or have a
Permanent Residence Visa. 

New graduates: Employers utilize the college placement offices to hire new
graduates. 
They do not employ recruiting firms for this purpose. We are unable to
assist recent graduates.



LeAnn E. Jones
Scientific Placement, Inc., Box 19949, Houston, TX 77224
Houston, TX
713-496-6100      713-496-6208 (fax)
LEJ@Scientific.com -or- D1580@APPLELINK.APPLE.COM
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Hunk)
Subject: Changing contract basis to royalty basis
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 01:07:22 GMT

   Suppose I got a contract to develop a product for someone for them to
market and sell for their own profits.  But suppose the source code got
kinda large, and the client really had no programmers, nor could justify the
need for any.

   Would it make sense to amend the original contract by offering to take on
customer support in exchange for a small cut of the profits?
From: johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: software royalties
Date: 13 Aug 92 02:17:03 GMT
Followup-To: misc.jobs.misc
Organization: I.E.C.C.

>[questions about software royalty agreements]

>1) What's a typical rate?  Is it a fixed price per unit sold,
>   percentage of gross, percentage of net?  Any or all of the above?

You need to set either an amount per unit, or a percentage of their actual
wholesale sales revenue.  Anything else is impossible to audit.  if
they're responsible for packaging, marketing, and support, a royalty of
10% of the gross would be on the high end.  (Keep in mind that for
packaged software, 40% or more goes to the dealer.)

>2) Is it typical that the rate would increase/decrease with time
>   and/or units sold? 

Sure.  The rate might also depend on the sales channel, e.g. a different
rate for bulk direct sales than for retail.  Sometimes the company also
wants a royalty cap in case the package sells much better than expected.

>3) Would it unusual to agree on a small fixed price up front, in
>   addition to royalties?

Not at all.  The fixed fee might either be a straight payment, or an
advance against royalties.  If the latter, how is the advance recovered?
Do you get nothing more until the advance is repaid, withhold 50% against
repaying the advance, or other formula?

>
>4) How is verification done?  Does the company automatically provide a
>   yearly statement of units sold, open its "books", or what?  It
>   seems that this could cause awkwardness, even in the best of
>   business relationships.  And doesn't revealing units sold give away
>   valuable competitve info?

A tricky issue.  You certainly want regular statements at defined
intervals, perhaps every 6 months.  As far as auditing the books, you
could get them to agree to let you go over the books under reasonable
condition of nondisclosure.  Or maybe you could agree on a trusted third
party such as an accountant who would be allowed to audit them.  How fancy
you want to make this depends on how much money is involved and how much
you do or don't trust each other.

>5) Anyone have any good or bad personal experience with such
>   arrangements? 

It can be great, or it can be awful.  The main thing to ensure is that
each party has reasonable expectations and has considered the various
contingencies.  For example, what happens if you complete the project but
for some reason they don't market it?  You might insist on a minimum
royalty in that case.  Or what happens if later on they want to upgrade
it.  Do you make the changes?  If so, how much do you get paid and how?
If not, how do you decide the royalty on the modified product?

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us, {spdcc|ima|world}!iecc!johnl
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,misc.jobs.offered
From: pa_andy@merrimack.edu (The Wolf)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Rates for C/DECforms contract
Date: 16 Aug 92 20:50:57 GMT
Organization: Merrimack College, No. Andover, MA, USA

I'm talking to a consulting firm about a C/DECforms position in the Boston area.
I have 4 years of experience as a programmer.  I know DECforms inside out (what
they really want).  My C is passable and I understand how to interface it with
DECforms.  For how much should I ask?
-- 
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 Computer Geek                        | There's a certain freedom in being
 Lotus Development Corp.              | completely screwed.
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Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: keves@meaddata.com (Brian Keves)
Subject: Re: Sybase (DBA & Developer) needed in Washington DC Long Term Contract
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton Ohio
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:06:20 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.200224.9737@meaddata.com> keves@meaddata.com (Brian Keves) writes:
>A recruiter is looking for strong Sybase people for long term contracts
>in the Washington DC area. These are for people with experience in a
>SUN/Unix environment. This is an immediate need and they are really looking!
>
>Positions:	Sybase Database Administrator
>		Sybase Application Developer
>
>If you are interested please send me your name and phone number and
>I will arrange to have a recruiter call you ASAP.

I neglected to mention in my original post that this is a competative
contract with rates in the area of $40-$50/hour. Part of this may be
as a tax free per diem.

Brian
--
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P.O. Box 149              | here are not necessarily | Engineering Productivity
Miamisburg, OH 45343-0149 |  those of Mead or Mead   |       keves@meaddata.com
(513) 865-1121 x05767     |       Data Central       | ...!uunet!meaddata!keves
From: may@Apple.COM (Patrick May)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: MS-DOS to SunOS port, immediate need
Date: 19 Aug 92 05:14:05 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

I'm in a time crunch on a port of a product from a PC to Sun platform.
If you have the following experience:

     C
     SunOS
     MS-DOS
     some X (Xlib and Xt)

are not averse to:

     long hours for the next 3-4 weeks
     working on-site in the Foster City-Redwood City area
     dealing with some of the most poorly written C code it has
        ever been my displeasure to see

and would like to make a reasonable amount of money plus royalties,
please send email to me (may@apple.com) with a summary of your
pertinent experience and a daytime phone number.

This job has nothing to do with Apple Computer.

Patrick May
may@apple.com
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                              "A contract programmer is always intense."
From: dfavor@logan.tivoli.com (David Favor)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: firm requests comments
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:07:08 GMT

>HR 5011 would establish an 800 number for obtaining and verifying
>TINs. (There goes another little bit of privacy!)

I've always considered the best way to provoke tax reform would be to
encourage a tax system that generated so much information that the IRS
could not possibly process it all in a year. so HR 5011 may have the
same effect on the tax system that the war on drugs is having on the
justice system. the pipe is only so big. put enough water in and either
the pipe will burst or backflow. a humorous thought... :-)
From: ed@titipu.meta.com (Edward Reid)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: jury duty
Date: 22 Aug 92 22:42:26 GMT
Reply-To: ed@titipu.meta.com (Edward Reid)
Organization: Accuracy, Ltd.
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v0

btarbox@sw.stratus.com (Brian Tarbox) writes:
> Since I'm a contractor I have no employer to pay me for time
> spent on jury duty...are there any tax breaks or anything for
> losing 3 days of pay?

Sure.  You don't have to pay taxes on what you don't get. ;*]

But don't forget to report that $10/day jury pay to the IRS!

Seriously, that's one more thing you need to factor into your fees.

Edward Reid  (8*}>
  eel:   ed@titipu.meta.com  or  nosc.mil!titipu.meta.com!ed
  snail: PO Box 378/Greensboro FL 32330
From: jmalis@world.std.com (Judee Malis)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: INGRES, Mass. broker
Summary: INGRES, Mass., broker
Keywords: INGRES
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:44:14 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

6+ month contract, on-site in Littleton, for experienced Ingres 
software engineer.  You must be personable for client interaction.
For more info, please call Judee Malis at Prosoft Consulting:
617-489-3055.
From: btreuman@ems.cdc.com (Bob Treumann)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Developer-Owned Corporation
Date: 16 Aug 92 22:53:10 GMT
Reply-To: btreuman@ems.cdc.com
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC



It seems to me that the best model for a technical professional
business is a small architecture or legal services corporation.

This gives a group of technical people the ability to leverage
off of each others expertise, work together on larger projects
and make investments in training, tools and reference material.

If anyone out there is organized like this, or can refer me to
books discussing this kind of organization please respond.

Anyone in Mpls-StPaul (Minnesota) area interested in setting up such a
corporation please contact me even if you don't know how to do it.  My
area of emphasis is database design/Oracle implementation.

Bob Treumann                    612-489-4960
Solution Engineering
1290 Osage St North
St Paul Mn    55117          


On a related note, anyone with IEF experience looking to relocate
here for awhile, please write/phone.  I can refer you to 
IEF contract opportunity.,
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,misc.jobs.offered,ne.jobs
From: seek@world.std.com (David A Reilly)
Subject: Macintosh Quality Assurance Contract(recruiter)
Followup-To: Kevin McLaughlin
Summary: Long term role currently available
Keywords: Macintosh/Quality Assurance/System 7/Communications
 
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:05:43 GMT
Expires: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 04:00:00 GMT

****************************************************************************
     not an entry level contract * local Boston contractors preferred
****************************************************************************
     please send resume in ascii * our fax is 1-617-246-8246
****************************************************************************
 
                         MACINTOSH Q.A. ENGINEER
 
One of our preferred clients is currently in need of 2 senior Quality
Assurance engineers with System 7 Data Communications experience to assist
in a 6 month endeavor.  If you have been in the Q.A. field (not others) and
know how to develop test plans from a functional spec, can do regression 
testing and automated test tool development then please contact me via
your method of choice. Heavy Mac experience is a definate must have.
 
                                                    Sincerely
                                                    Kevin McLaughlin
                                                    seek@world.std.com
From: jmuth@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com (John Muth)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: 1706 Repeal Debated
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:29:20 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Mountain View

In article <1992Aug13.085419.8297@weyrich.UUCP> tnet.com!weyrich!orville writes:
>In article <183010@pyramid.pyramid.com> jmuth@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com (John Muth) writes:
>>
>>If you are willing to hire yourself out on a per-job (ie. fixed bid) basis,
>>1706 is irrelevent. If you market yourself and find your own clients
>>1706 is not very relevent. 1706 only screws you if you work by the
>>hour through a broker.
>>
>
>Tell that to the clients -- they aren't taking any chances. Fear of the
>IRS is much more powerful in this country than fear of the devil; the
>company lawyers would rather be "safe" than try to argue with the IRS
>when the all the cards in the deck are stacked in favor of the IRS.
>
>Screwed is screwed. Period.
>
>orville
>
>--------------------------------------       **********************************
>Orville R. Weyrich, Jr.                          Weyrich Computer Consulting
>Certified Data Processor                       POB 5782, Scottsdale, AZ 85261
>Certified Systems Professional                      Voice: (602) 391-0821
>Certified Computer Programmer                Internet: orville%weyrich@tnet.com
>--------------------------------------       **********************************

Damn right I'll tell that to the client. I'll tell that to the client's
lawyers too. I know 1706 and I know the steps I take to ensure my company
complies with the IRS "20 questions". Just another objection to be met
as part of the sales pitch, right along with rate and payment terms. No big 
deal.

Most job shops aren't much bigger than than independents. How did
they pass the muster? Call themselves a company instead of an independent?
Nothing stopping you from doing that. Jump through a few hoops to get on
an approved vendor list? How hard can that be? Worst case they'll want
you incorporated. Maybe they will want to see proof of insurance. So what?

The point is, gov't is always putting up barriers to business. What separates
the professional from the amateur is his(her) reaction to the barrier. In the
case of 1706, the client's lawyers will want to make sure your company
meets certain requirements. Find out what the requirements are and meet
them. Whining about how unfair it is doesn't get you anywhere. 

-John Muth
From: dfavor@logan.tivoli.com (David Favor)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: firm requests comments
Keywords: consulting,1099,401K,referral
Date: 13 Aug 92 11:57:22 GMT

|> Enquireing minds, of course, wonder why you are excepting 1099's if you are
|> incorporated?  The 1099 exists solely for individuals, sole proprietors, and
|> partnerships.  Corporations have no such requirement.

I work for my own Corporation. the Prime Contractors I work with that will
establish a relationship report payments to my Corporation on a 1099 form...
it sounds as if your Corporation's revenue stream is reported in a different
manner... if your Corporation doesn't receive 1099s what form(s) does your
Corporation receive?
From: majec@cactus.org (Majec Systems)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Contracts in the fun capital of USA
Keywords: Austin Texas Work
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:02:17 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx



Majec Systems, Inc. is a PROGRAMMER OWNED and MANAGED software
contracting company in our 5th year of operation. We need 
C programmers who can work in the UNIX and VAX/VMS
environments. The more experience the better. If you are interested
in contract assignments of 3 months to one year, please submit
your resume to :


Tom White
Majec Systems, Inc.
5758 Balcones Dr. Suite 102
Austin, Texas 78731
Phone (512)452-1138
Fax (512)452-6922


 
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: tsi@techbook.com (Technical Solutions Inc.)
Subject: Novell apps. tester contract.
Organization: TECHbooks of Beaverton Oregon - Public Access Unix
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:07:58 GMT

  
		    SENIOR SOFTWARE ENGINEER
			  
    Technical Solutions, Inc (TSI) provides Software engineering contract
    services to high tech. companies in the Pacific Northwest.  We specialize
    in Software Evaluation but have other development contracts too.


    One of our clients, in OREGON needs an experienced Software
    Evaluation Engineer with extensive Novell network experience.  Our
    client needs a Novell netware applications tested. Good networking
    experience is required. NLM experience is a strong PLUS+++. 

    If you have 4+ years real world experience plus a BS/CS (or equivalent),
    and quite a bit of networking, specially Novell, experience and enjoy
    testing software then send use your resume ASAP!


	PLEASE RESPOND VIA U.S. MAIL OR EMAIL
	
    Attn: Bart Weaver

    Email:  tsi@techbook.com

    U.S. Mail:
	Technical Solutions, Inc.
	16199 NW Joscelyn St. Suite 200
	Beaverton, OR 97006

    PS: This is a 2+ month assignment for the right person.  We provide
        excellent pay, medical plan, and retirement plan
-- 
tsi@techbook.COM  Public Access User --- Not affiliated with TECHbooks
Public Access UNIX and Internet at (503) 644-8135 (1200/2400, N81) 
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