From: danaf@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Subject: Re: COMMODORE - HERE'S A CLUE
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 06:51:07 GMT

In article <1ae2r0INNsga@uwm.edu>, gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:
|> danaf@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.) writes:
|> : would be able to build in a $60 chip-price-increase for under $200 list raise
|> : which could probably translate QUICKLY to about $100, $125 street increase.
|> 
|> I'd say probably a 300 list price raise, maybe a quick 200-250 street
|> price raise.  But that would knock them a long way off their current
|> pricing, wouldn't it?  One of the advantages of the 600 is that it's
|> dirt cheap.

Nahhhh... not for a $40 chip! (We finally got a real price...) ...and, of
course, a little retooling of the motherboard. 

"Dirt Cheap" is for used cars - do you buy a new car (or computer, or stereo)
simply because it's the CHEAPEST one out there? The Yugo didn't sell too well,
even at $4000.

|> :It doesn't have to be super-CD-quality to get BETTER. A couple of extra channe
|> : would be nice, for one thing. Four is pretty good, but somewhat limiting.
|> 
|> Yes, 8 8-bit channels with 6-bit volume levels would have been really
|> nice.  :)


MMMMMMMM.... <drool>

|> : And WHERE THE HELL IS THE DSP???? I don't see it! Why has it taken them THIS
|> : LONG to even announce plans for it? I think there's wayyyy too much navel-
|> : contemplation going on at Commodore lately...
|> 
|> Honestly, now.  You know C= doesn't announce things ahead of time to
|> anyone but developers.  And sometimes, not even the commercial
|> developers get the whole scoop.

But we've been talking about this one for YEARS. Same with DIG... when are they
gonna announce that one? 2093??? Every developer on earth is looking for it...
the Prez of Black Belt wrote a looong "letter" for .info on the virtues of a 
Commodore DIG standard.

|> :there's no EXPANDABILITY built in there! Sure, you can put in a DSP... someday
|> : You'll have to sacrifice another of your precious slots for a SCSI card (and
|> :don't forget, it only has 4 or 3+Video), and you __C A N N O T__, no matter ho
|> : much you whinge and beg, add more CHIP RAM.
|> 
|> Sure you can.  When the next OS revision offering full RTG is
|> available, you drop in a new video subsystem.  And then you'll be
|> compatible with the AGA, the AGAGA, the AGAGAGA (also known as the
|> Jabbering Baby Chipset...  The silicon is shaped like a giant pacifier...)


RIIIIIIGHT. And the AGA will fit in the A3000, too...   8)

It's the law of technology. No matter how expandable it is, the new stuff don't
fit. Pre-specs and prototypes are bullsh*t (Commodore learned this with the
68040...) and if anything can go wrong, it already did.

|> Greg
|> 
|> --
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