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From: medin@catbyte.b30.ingr.com
Subject: Re: Trident 8800/8900/9000 (What is what?)
Reply-To: medin@catbyte.b30.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville AL
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:26:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.002217.128538@zeus.calpoly.edu>, rrauenza@zeus.calpoly.edu (Who, Me??) writes:

|> I have done a little shopping and it appears that the 8900 is the
|> newest model that supports 1 meg (1024x768x256).  The one place
|> I have actually called was actually selling the *8800* and said they
|> wouldn't have 8900's until next week (which I thought was odd...
|> hasn't the 8900 been out for a while?).

I've had two 8900C 1 meg cards in the last two years, so they've been
out at least that long. Make sure you get the "C" rev., as it is
supposedly faster (don't know why but I take Trident's word for it).

|> Should I just skip trident and go with ATI or some other well
|> supported card?  I have noticed that Trident's windows 3.1
|> driver is a little buggy (and it's supposed to be the 'final'
|> release - I got it from wuarchive.wustl.edu:/mirrors/msdos/windows3).

I liked my Trident cards for what they were built for--unaccelerated
SVGA.

You might try the Trident BBS at:

415-691-1016

for updated drivers if they exist. My 8900C worked fine with Windows
3.1 in 800 X 600 until I sold it two weeks ago in favor of an accelerated
card. I've seen another advertised in misc.forsale.computers today
for $75 used. I sold mine for around $50 which I thought was reasonable.

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From: cpw8034@rigel.tamu.edu (Alan Wen (409) 693-2924)
Subject: Re: Diamond Stealth vs. Speedstar 24X
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:45:00 GMT

In article <1d9v25INN1uu@agate.berkeley.edu>, aron@angkor.ced.berkeley.edu (aron bonar) writes...
>In article <1992Nov5.010618.1582@infonode.ingr.com>, rex@lgp.b23b.ingr.com (Rex A. Simmons) writes:
>|> I am preparing for a 486DX-33 purchase soon and had been planning to
>|> purchase a Diamond Stealth card. One of the few vendors I'm
>|> considering said that their standard card is now the Diamond Speedstar
>|> 24X which, according to the sales person, is better than the Stealth
>|> and is supposedly phasing out the Stealth. However, I thought I had
>|> read/heard somewhere that the 24X was in fact a lower-end card with
>|> less performance than the Stealth. If you can help me set the record
>|> straight on this, please e-mail me or post a follow-up.
> 

With both cards running on my 486-33/only ISA, WinMark gives me

SpeedStar 24x:  12.76 Mil
Stealth VRAM:   7.65 Mil

If you prefer not to go by benchmark scores, try having identical machines
next to each other with PageMaker or Word for Windows.  Then scroll up or down
on both and you'll readily notice the difference.  I realize that this is
only one aspect of overall performance but it's a practical and application
based one at that.  You'll also notice windows opening/closing snappier even
when you're inside imaging programs like Halo (included w/ 24x) Imager.

Under DOS, the difference isn't as noticeable BUT the 24x is still faster.
Under numerous hodgepouges of benching prgs, the 24x runs about as fast
as the Speedstar 24 which uses the ET-4000.  S3 as you know generally run
slower in DOS.

I heard from a couple of dealers too that the 24x is phasing out the Stealth
and that a newer model w/ possibly more VRAM and 24-bit clr support will be
out shortly to be the mid-end card as oppose to the low-end pricing of the
24x.

alan

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From: Frank2.Simon@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Frank2 'Biber' Simon)
Subject: Re: Help-losing CMOS setting
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:24:58 GMT

lutz@solace.psych.rochester.edu (Dave Lutz) writes:

>In <721317487.2@altern8.mi> Bob.Dickey@altern8.mi.org (Bob Dickey) writes:

>>PP>I've been having an intermittent problem with my PC periodically
>>PP>losing all or part of its CMOS memory settings.  Most commonly,
>>PP>the clock will lose anywhere from 1/2 hr. to 3 hrs. between

>>I have been having probs with my clock too. I don't know what the problem
>>is but it just seems to be the clock. Im on a 286 and rest of the CMOS

>  Try replacing the CMOS battery.  Just remember to write down all of the CMOS
>settings, because they all get hosed when you disconnect the battery.  You'll
>have to go back in and fix them by hand unless you have a CMOS settings saver
>program.

Before replacing the CMOS battery try keeping your computer turned on for
two days: maybe your battery will get full.
Luck
Frank
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From: aron@archangel.ced.berkeley.edu (aron bonar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Top speed of Intel 80387DX
Date: 12 Nov 1992 21:45:47 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
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Keywords: math coprocessor intel 80387

In article <1992Nov12.175832.1021@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>, rteasdal@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Rusty) writes:
|> In article <BxKELw.Dyz@news.cso.uiuc.edu> berger@atropa (Mike Berger) writes:
|> >I am making some changes to my 80386 CPU board, and have considered
|> >upgrading to 40 MHz.  I have a genuine Intel 80387 rated for 3 MHz.
|> 							      ^
|> 	Wow! You're going to run the 80387 at more than 1300% of its
|> rated speed? :-) Sorry, couldn't resist.
|> 
|> >The Intel manual says that it "may not function at higher speeds".
|> >The Intel tech support line representative told me it definitely
|> >will NOT work at higher speeds.
|> >
|> 
|> 	Considering that the fastest '386 Intel makes is the 33 MHz,
|> and that the only faster part is made by AMD, their hated competitors
|> who had the temerity, the unmitigated gall, to challenge Intel's nice,
|> safe, comfortable and obscenely profitable 386 monopoly, I suspect that
|> this is sour grapes. However, I would not at all put it past Intel to be
|> _deliberately_ producing FPUs that won't work reliably at the higher
|> clock speeds of the AMD part. You could always buy a Cyrix FPU, which
|> is spec'd to run at 40 without problems.
|> 
|> >Has anybody actually run Intel's 80387 at 40 MHz?  What are the
|> >chances that it will work reliably?
|> >
|> 
|> 	Can't speak to math coprocessors, but Intel CPUs have a good
|> record of being reliably overoscillated. I'm typing this on a 486SX/25
|> juiced to 33 with a fast crystal and a chip fan; works just fine.
|> 
|

This is true....I've seen a 386dx-20 bumped to 27mhz without problem.  The cpu was run at 30mhz
but started giving errors so it stayed at 27.  From what I understand, its not the cpu's that have
a problem going faster..its the motherboards. This wasn't a problem on the aforementioned 368dx-20
system because the 20mhz cpu was put in a 33mhz board so the system was fine. 

So you might have trouble if you want to get a 40mhz motherboard and plop your 33mhz Intel cpu into
it.  I say this cuz' I'm under the impression that all 386-40 motherboards are compatible with AMD
cpu's and not Intel's.   I could be wrong though...

But as far as your cpu is concerned... I think you should be able to 40mhz (possibly higher)
without problem.

Aron



 
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From: d12751@tanus.oz.au (Jason Bordujenko)
Subject: Labtam Computers -Address req'd
Organization: Pro-Net Australia
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 09:35:04 GMT

G'day All,

Does anybody here in the vast.net.land have the address of Labtam Computers
Australia?

Many thanks to those that can directly e-mail it to me as I do not frequent
this conference.

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From: Donald.Wen@f201.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (Donald Wen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Memory prices going crazy
Date: 8 Nov 92 07:38:26 GMT


 TU> From: turabe@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Toshiyuki Urabe)

 TU> What is the current regular (cheaper) price of the 4Mx9, 70ns
 TU> SIMM's ?

I don't have a current listing of memory prices, but my guess is that
you will have to shell out at least $140 for one.  There's a place in
Milpitas, CA, called California Memory and Components (CMC for short)
that is reputable and has decent prices:  I bought my 4Mb SIMM for my
Compaq Deskpro i for $145.  The address is 356S. Abbott Ave, Milpitas,
CA 96035, and their numbers are
        (408) 956-8291
        (408) 956-8584 Fax

Hope you will find what you are looking for.

DONALD WEN


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From: kxj6@po.CWRU.Edu (Kijin Jung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: 24-bit Color
Date: 9 Nov 1992 06:56:44 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: kxj6@po.CWRU.Edu (Kijin Jung)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


I've always wondered why video card manufacturers would not allow more
memory on their video cards. Since the number of colors is a function of
the memory on board and not on the analog monitor, why couldn't ATI (or
any manufacturer) set a maximum of more than 2MB so 24-bit color can be
achieved at 1024x768?

My first video card was a Paradise 1024, which was limited to 512K (1024x
768x16 colors) and I had always wanted to upgrade it to 1MB for 256
colors. Now I have an ATI VGA Wonder+ with 1MB, and I wish it was possible
to add more.

Is the video chip itself a constraint? That is, a certain chip will only
allow X number of colors? With a non-accelerated card such as mine, there
will of course be a detrimental effect on speed performance if it was
allowed to go up to 16 million colors, but it would be nice to have the
option.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: etorrem@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (engelbert.jgm.torremans)
Subject: Re: How to Install MFM+IDE.??
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:20:31 GMT


All,

In general it is not possible to combine an IDE and a RLL drive.
The reason is that both controllers use the same addressrange.
There is however a shareware program available, I think at
SIMTEL in the directory dskutl, the program is called 3_DRIVES.
This program will allow you to use any drive connected to a
controller working on the alternate address range 170-177. 
Documentation on how the setup the drive is included in the 
zip file. 
If your controller does not have the abbility to change the address
from the primary address (1f0-1F7) you can not use the program.
However by modifying your controllercard, inserting a TTL inverter
component in address line A7, it should always be possible to 
change the controller to the alternate address.

There are some limitations on the usage of the drive but in
general things should work fine.


Good luck,

Engelbert Torremans
From: dougw@ks25.chi.il.us (Doug Waldron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: CD Rom Drives (NEC)
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:58:59 GMT
Organization: R. R. Donnelley & Sons


From: moncrg@aix.rpi.edu (Gregory Donald Moncreaff)
>if you are in the market for a <<new>> cd-rom drive, be sure to
>get one that can handle the kodak multi session cd's...

>when i purchased my cd-rom over the summer, the best value i could
>find was the nec-84, an internal cd-rom that sold for just under
>$500. as you are looking for an external model, be prepared to
>pay extra. y

I can't dig up info on "kodak multi session cd's".  So what are they?
I'm about to order an NEC-74 (extern version of the 84).  Does
the 84 fit your needs?  

I have the Beta release of Windows NT and I have (on order) Gateway's
66V ISA system.  Microsoft told me that my CD-ROM would work better 
under NT if it goes through an Adaptec or Future Domain SCSI hosted adapter.

Can anyone explain why?

(Please Post, my mail routing sux)

]R
From: Sprague.Wbst311@Xerox.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: 386Max and QEMM386
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:33:23 GMT
Followup-To: 386Max and QEMM386
Organization: Xerox
Originator: msprague@superior

In reading a couple of reviews, both QEMM and 386max are
highly rated.  One specific review said that in DOS, 386max
gave slightly more free space than did QEMM.  In addition, if
you run windows, it was reported that 386max was better than
QEMM, as QEMM did some strange things behind windows back.
386max was also supposed to be easier to install.  In any case,
the reviewer strongly suggested that you buy one of the two.

In addition, we have had trouble installing QEMM on PC's at
work, and to get everything working right, we had to remove
it.  It wasn't a big deal, as these machine were intended
as test equipment for the lab, and didn't really need a fancy
memory manager.  In other words, it wasn't worth our time to
figure out why the machine locked up when using QEMM.  :-)

Based on all that, I purchased 386max for my machine.  Sure
enough, it was easy to install, and as expected, it saved me
quite a bit of base memory, over and above what the MS-DOS
memory manager had done (I think it was close to 100K).  I
have not had a single problem with it, even though I changed
the configuration of my hardware, and had run the installation
again with the reconfigure switch.

Over all, I am _very_ happy with 386max, but I don't think you
will go wrong with either package.

		~ Mike  (sprague.wbst311@xerox.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: kgermann@zeos.com (Ken Germann)
Subject: Re: Zyxel.
Organization: Zeos International, Ltd
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 15:56:34 GMT

In article <Bx75v7.JnA@tct.com> paul@tct.com (Paul Levin) writes:
>According to kgermann@zeos.com (Ken Germann):
>>
>>Does anyone have the # for Zyxel? Please post or e-mail.
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>>612-633-7337             ZZZZ EEEE  OO  SSS     FAX         612-633-4607
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>
>ZyXel -- 1-800-255-4101

Thanks for the Info on ZyXel. I received the packet via Fax yesterday
after calling them for the info. 


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From: jiml@lennon.FtCollins.NCR.com (Jim L)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: hardware needed
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:36:38 GMT
Reply-To: jiml%cad@MCC.COM (Jim L)
Organization: NCR MED, FT. Collins, CO. 80525  (303) 223-5100

In article <1992Nov10.130535.789@blurt.oswego.edu> mulvey@blurt.oswego.edu (Allen Mulvey, SUNY, Oswego, NY) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.200056.27059@selway.umt.edu>, waldorf@selway.umt.edu (Rick Waldorf) writes:
>> I am trying to find a controller card that was manufactured by Miniscribe
>> for a model 8450-xt . I had been using this drive and controller in my
>> Zeos 386-sx and it has been working fine. I recently had need to pull this
>> card and ended up getting some voltage across it. My controller card is 
>> 
>> now a pile of junk. I've tried acculogics various controller cards that should
>> work with this older 8 bit ide drive in a 16 bit system but have had no luck
>> so far. The card that was supplied with the drive was manufactured for Miniscribe so I'm starting to believe that I need the original card. Unfortunately
>> Miniscribe is no more! If you have one of these old  cards or a solution
>> I would really appreciate hearing from you. Thank's! Rick
>
>Unless I am grossly mistaken my Miniscribe 8450 from my old 286 is RLL. 
>Maybe that is why your IDE cards don't work.
>
>			Allen Mulvey
>			mulvey@blurt.oswego.edu


You are not grossly mistaken, just a little.  The 8450 is not an IDE interface
drive, it is ST-506, commonly known as MFM or RLL.  To be used as a 40Mb
drive it must be run on an RLL controller.

The details of the drive interface (MFM, RLL, or some other) are internal to
an IDE drive.  In effect, you have taken most of the intelligence out of the
controller card and moved it to the drive, leaving a simple bus interface
left on the controller card, which is why they can be so cheap!

The original poster (Rich Waldorf) needs to find himself another RLL con-
troller to have his drive work, unless in "getting some voltage across it,"
he frapped it too.

		Jim Lewczyk
From: crandall@spock.usc.edu (Mike Crandall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: IDE and Mac SCSI together?
Date: 5 Nov 1992 19:37:03 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: spock.usc.edu

	Is it possible and/or feasible to use an older mac SCSI hard
drive in a PCwhich already uses an IDE controller/harddrive?
	If this does work, does it work well or would it be pretty
unstable?

Which SCSI cards would be most likely to pull this off?

By the way the IDE drive is a Conner 3204, and the SCSI is Quantum c.1988.
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From: dbarker@spang.Camosun.BC.CA (Deryk Barker)
Subject: Re: The P5 will be called the Pentium
Organization: Camosun College, Victoria B.C, Canada
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:19:52 GMT

In article <BxGsK1.5o0@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.052421.11291@nuscc.nus.sg> law30056@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN KEN HWEE) writes:
>>Say... when will the Sex-tium or Sexium come out?!
>>Red-hot fast and flashy, it should be!
>
>
>Naah....
>
>they'll just call it the Pentium II...
>
>
>
>Wonder what Motorola has up its sleeve...

An arm?

Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept., Camosun College, Victoria B.C.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: nfh@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nancy Fisher Hansen)
Subject: Information of 486 motherboards? 
Keywords: 486, motherboard 
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 06:07:50 GMT

Hello,

After searching for my ideal PC for months (and changing its definition
whenever I hear the latest), I've decided to build my own PC. However, I
do not know where to find information on motherboards. Here is my
description of my ideal motherboard:

1) 6 EISA slots
2) 2 VL Bus slots
3) P24T-ready CPU socket but holds a 486, or
    a CPU module      
4) Overdrive socket (I could live without this)
5) 64KB cache, upgradeable to 256 KB
6) Able to hold 64 MB DRAM on motherboard
7) Flash BIOS
8) Able to run at 100 MHz (50 MHz is acceptable)

Not sure if this exists. ZEOS has a PC which is all the above except for
the EISA slots, so I have hope.

Any information you can provide on building a PC (e.g. what motherboard
or case companies have good reputations, what references listing
motherboards and their specs exist, etc.) would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

					Kurt Hansen
				(posting from my wife's account)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: hm@opus40.ix.de (Harald Milz)
Subject: Re: Can I use my XT's CGA card in my 486???
Organization: iX-Redaktion
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:19:26 GMT


In article <1992Nov5.020445.22139@williams.edu>, 93gke@williams.edu (Greg Ennis) writes:
|> I bought a 486 local bus system and now I can't afford a display card or
|> monitor. Can I use the CGA card straight from my XT ?
|> Thanks- Greg
|> 93gke@williams.edu


Yep.
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From: Greg.Reinacker@FtCollins.NCR.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: DEE ONE SYS
Date: 10 Nov 92 08:59:26 GMT
	<1992Nov09.201810.141229@zeus.calpoly.edu>
Reply-To: Greg.Reinacker@FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM
Organization: NCR Microelectronics, Ft. Collins, CO
In-reply-to: rrauenza@zeus.calpoly.edu's message of 9 Nov 92 20:18:10 GMT


->    I don't know if all companies do this, but something nice about Dee
->    One is that they do supply all documentation and even include a few
->    extra screws and other goodies.

I recently ordered a system from them, but I did not want the disk to be
mounted - I was going to put in in another system.  They sent it to me
in a box, just like I would hope, but with absolutely NO documentation.
Not too big of a deal, I just had to go elsewhere to find the drive
specs to configure the BIOS with.

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From: rherzog@is1.vub.ac.be (Herzog R.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: hard disks info searched
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:14:48 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Brussels Free University (VUB/ULB)
Keywords: seagate, quantum

HI,
I am in need of info about how to put a second drive in my clone 386.
The first is a Seagate 1237A (the kind with row 4 of terminator
absent...). This is a 210 Megs drive, presently functioning.
I need to add a Quantum 80AT Prodrive. (was in another 386, still working)
I want to know where to put or remove jumpers so that they can work together, 
with the Seagate as master and the Quantum as slave drive (reverse ok if needed)
I know what to change in the BIOS...
Thanks to the experts

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