From: f0g1@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Prasad Gokhale)
Subject: Re: The World and Saunskrut
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 12:49:15 GMT


In article <1992Apr10.141651.2929@ncsa.uiuc.edu> podurys@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Podury
 Satyanarayan) writes:
>
>Continuing on some more words that could perhaps, even
>remotely, be construed as derived from Sanskrit roots.
>
>(All these I gathered from listening to some lectures given
>by an IIT professor/Indian philosopher. I do not claim to have
>much of a knowledge on these matters, but I do find them rather
>interesting.  The netters can form their own opinions.
>Also, I may have got my facts wrong regarding the following stories
>from other religions.  I hope knowledgeable people would correct it.
>My apologies for any unintentional errors.)
>
>
>Jupiter:  "dhyau pita", meaning 'father in heaven'
>
>Isaac(son of Abraham?):  'ishakaaha', meaning 'like god' (?)
>                          Note: In India, many times 'sh' and 's'
>            are used interchangeably (ex. "shiva" and 'siva').
>            Hence, 'ishakaaha' could well be 'isaaka'.
>
>Ismael(same person as Isaac, but followed by Muslims??):  'isha mala',
>            meaning 'the garland of god'.  Now, I believe there is this
>            anecdote where Abraham was asked to give his son Isaac as
>            a sacrifice to god by chopping his neck off.  When he was
>            about to do this, the sword became a garland and fell on
>            Isaac's neck.  Hence the garland of god. And hence 'isha mala'
>            or 'ismael'.
>
>Baptism:   'avapta' (or is it 'abapta'?), meaning one who has reached
>            the goal of god (like in attaining 'samadhi').
>            There is an interesting story regarding this.  A person who
>            attains samadhi, according to Indian Philosophy(IP), should be
>            entombed (buried?) and not cremated like ordinary people.
>            Not everybody attains samadhi.  However, in Christianity,
>            everybody is 'baptized', which then, according to Indian
>            philosophy, means that that person has attained samadhi!
>            And hence, that person should only be buried and not cremated.
>            The tradition of baptizing, I guess, started with the baptizing
>            of Christ by Johann(??).  But since, according to IP, Christ
>            is considered as an avatar of Shiva (???), baptizing him
>            would be the proper thing to do.
>
>    (I repeat that my knowledge on these matters is meagre, and hence
>     above could all be gibberish.  However, I found them interesting
>     when informed, and I leave it to the netters to draw their own
>     conclusions.  I have no intention of commenting on other religions,
>     positively or negatively. So no religious flames, please.)
>
>There are many words in other languages, which when analyzed as a word
>from Sanskrit, gives a clearer meaning to people such as me who may
>not know these languages.
>
>
>satya podury
>--
>Might is Right!
>Statutory disclaimer:  All opinions expressed herein are solely mine.

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> venks@glycol.ecn.purdue.edu (Kareenhalli V Venkatesh) writes :

>     I remember a talk given by Mr Oak some years back in Madras.
> he was telling that his finding of links of other languages
> with sanskrit was not accepted by Harvard.  He gave lots of
> example from different languages and linked them to sanskrit.
> I remember the following:
>
>  September ---- sapta (seven)  ambara (sky)
>  October   ----- Asta (eight)  ambara (sky)
>  November  ----- Nava (nine)   ambara (sky)
>  december  ----- Dasha (ten)   ambara (sky)
>
>  Gentleman ----- Santula mana -- person with a sound mind.
>
> He also gave some explanation for the 7th sky representing
> the ninth month and so on. Someone who has read the book
> by Mr Oak can shed some light.
>
>                                 .......venkatesh
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  As noted earlier, September thru' December should represent
  the 7th thru' 10th months in a year. But in the present calender,
  they are the 9th thru' 12th respectively. Why is this anamoly ?

  In the past, from primordial times, the world had been following
  the Vedic lunar calender. The first month being the month of Chaitra
  which falls around the month of March. So, considering March to be the
  first month in a year..September becomes the 7th month, October the
  8th, November the 9th and December the 10th. The present calender came
  into vogue aroung 1752 A.D. January was considered to be the first
  month of the year by the Romans. Being the first month, its name was
  attributed to a "Janus", a Roman deity. (A temple of Janus was (is?)
  existing in Rome.) This "Janus" is nothing but a derivation of
  "Ganesh". Even today, the Hindu's commence their activities with the
  name of Lord Ganesh. This indicates that the Romans, as of their
  ancestors, were all Hindus's.

  What does the word "Christmas" connote ? It is the birthday of Christ.
  Then, does "mas" in Christmas signify a birthday ? Why is Christmas
  written as X-mas ? Does "X" symbolize Christ ? In my previous posting
  I had quoted Spencer Lewis's derivation of the symbol X. But he fails
  to explain the "mas" in Christmas. December was the 10th, i.e., X-th
  month of the Roman (Vedic) calender. This month was celebrated as
 "Krishna-mas   that is the month of Krishna by the Romans. (This
  reckons to be the month of Margasheersh of the BhagavadGeeta.) Hence
  the festival of Christmas is the month of worship of Shri Krishna and
  was being celebrated even before "Christ was born". Christmas is alias
  Krishna-mas. The derivations and significances of the above are
  further elaborated by P.N Oak in "World Vedic Heritage".

  A few more Saunskrut to English words related to time measurement :

  1. January (Januaries)   -  Ganaraya-eesh
  2. February (Februaries) -  Paravara-eesh
  3. Hour                  -  Hora(=2.5 Ghatis ; 1 Ghati=24 minutes)
  4. Second                -  Kshana
  5. Calender              - Kalan-tar (chart detailing divisions of
                                       time).
  6. Clock                 - Kala-ka (recorder/indicator of time)
  7. day                   - din
  8. a.m                   - Arohanam Martandasya (climbing of the Sun.)
  9. p.m                   - Patanam Martandasya (falling of the Sun.)

  Please refer to "World Vedic Heritage" by P.N Oak for more.....

  Prasad Gokhale.

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