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From: frisinv@alleg.edu
Subject: Re: Terminal question
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:54:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.232726.19560@pellns.alleg.edu>  
binders@reis55.alleg.edu (Simon Binder) writes:
> I am on a NeXT system at a small college in Penn.  What I want to do is  
to  
> find out how to send e-mail under a different name (i.e. a name other  
than  
> my login name).  I know that there are ways to send e-mail through  
> terminal other than the mail command, but I don't have enough UNIX  
> experience to be able to execute the commands without having some idea  
of  
> what commands will give me greater access to the message wraps.
> 
> Anyone out there familiar with Terminal who can help?  I would greatly  
> appreciate the answer to my corundrum, or even clues that can help lead  
me  
> to figuring out the answer on my own.  Being a person who loves a  
> challange (which is why I want to figure this out in the first place), I  
> might even prefer the latter.
> 
> Please respond by e-mail to binders@alleg.edu.  My course schedule is  
such  
> that I don't have time to read this newsgroup regularly enough to get  
> responses before expiration.
> 
> Thanks,
> Simon Binder

Please send me the same information. The only person at Allegheny that can  
do this (to my knowlege) won't tell me.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: halpin@vsg1.dsg.dec.com (Stephen E. Halpin)
Subject: Re:  NT: please define vapor.
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:26:52 GMT

In article <dillon.0noj@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep13.053045.25655@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> halpin@vsg1.dsg.dec.com (Stephen E. Halpin) writes:
>>>In article <jbone.716346951@splat> jbone@splat.dell.com (Jeff Bone) writes:
>>  <<stuff deleted>>
>>>I don't think that argument is refutable --- it's merely one
>>>...
>>
>>UNIX is hell on wheels for your average user.	Would you have your
>>secretary writing up printcaps?  True UNIX has a pathetic file system
>>(fsck? BAHAHAHA!!!), doesnt support a standard uniform model for threads,
>
>    Oh this is really funny... so you would rather use CHKDSK on a PC?
  <<tons o' stuff deleted>>

The topic was Windows NT vs UNIX.  Windows NT uses a log based file system,
so it can rebuild itself completely after a crash.  I recently came across
an article indicating the Univel system will be using the same type of file
system, so this may be a moot point.  As for crashing, Ive had a number of
of crashes on DOS, UNIX and VMS.  Ive never had a DOS crash Norton couldnt
fix.  Ive never had a VMS crash where the basic boot process didnt restore
the file system correctly.  Ive had numerous problems with fsck on UNIX,
and my experience indicates that UNIX is far more likely to require operator
intervention if the power went down when no users were logged in.

One of the neat things about UNIX is that it has no internals (:-) and its
externals are easily duplicated.  As a microkernel with personality modules
(one of which is a POSIX module) you should have youre most important system
calls available (though some NASTY \r <-> \n mapping problems) to build
your favorite UNIX tools and shells.  If someone can merge an X server into
the POSIX environment the question becomes "if it looks like a duck and acts
like a duck, why are we still calling it a Pigeon?"  Yes, it has shades of the
"MACH as the next UNIX" argument, but Windows NT is in many ways the next MACH.

>    Matthew Dillon		dillon@Overload.Berkeley.CA.US
>    1005 Apollo Way		uunet.uu.net!overload!dillon
>    Incline Village, NV. 89451	ham: KC6LVW (no mail drop)
>    USA 			Sandel-Avery Engineering (702)831-8000
>

-Steve
From: fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: AppInspector, ProcessMonitor, and MallocDebug problems.
Date: 14 Sep 92 01:41:53 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH


Um, ignore that post about them not working.  I got them to work.  Missing  
file in /usr/lib.  Sorry to clog the airways...

fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP Release 3
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:09:11 GMT



In article <1992Sep1.141744.259@next.cambridge.ma.us> simsong (Simson L.  
Garfinkel) writes:

Please mark RTF postings with <RTF> in the subject line.

Thanks.

--
Nathan Janette		"I'm a NeXTstep man,
Dept MB&B, Yale Univ	 I'm a NeXTcube guy"
New Haven, CT
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Subject: Re: Info on getting 3.0 and CD-ROM player (was: Re: CD-ROM question, NeXT customer support gripe)
Reply-To: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 19:29:30 GMT

Bill Chin writes
> *GASP*!  You mean they don't use NeXTs with a mission critical DBKIT
> app to handle their order processing, and resort to (paper?) lists?

They probably do use NeXTs and all the snazzy apps, but my main point  
there was more on the supervisors having different lists than the people  
who answer the phone.  But on paper/computer lists, I'm not sure, I'm just  
guessing.

> Maybe there should be a distributed object or speaker/listener app that
> connects to next.com and one can call up the info electronically.

This sounds like a great idea (if only *I* can access *my* order info),  
sure would make getting through the phone lines easier...but I would want  
to be sure to get up-to-date info about my order from this service.
-- 
-- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
-- no NeXTmail please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: portuesi@tweezers.esd.sgi.com (Michael Portuesi)
Subject: Re: NT / NeXT trivia
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 22:08:30 GMT


In article <1992Sep10.133214.14819@socrates.umd.edu>, fletcher@socrates.umd.edu writes:
> 	When NS486 hits the street it will be NT that
> 	will be in a panic.
> 	Get ready to mop up the drool from all the PC
>	owners.

I find it interesting that in this thread (and in the
other which was comparing NeXTStep to Windows NT), that
the same people who were quick to label NT "vaporware"
seem to overlook that fact that NS 486 is equally
vaporous, even more so since NeXT is not making
NS 486 developers kits available for $69.

--
Michael Portuesi   Silicon Graphics, Inc.   portuesi@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: modman@liveware.com
Subject: Re: 3.0 is really shipping
Keywords: Recycling Can you say recycling
Reply-To: modman@liveware.com
Organization: Liveware Corporation   Fort Collins, CO.  USA.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:12:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.223855.464@digifix!uunet.ca> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott  
Anguish) writes:
> David Pollak writes
> > We got our copies of 3.0 yesterday.  They were shipped from NeXT in a box  
> > marked MS-DOS 5.0.... (I kid you not)
> > 
> 
> 	Yeah, ours came last Wednesday, in a Windows box.... things get  
> stranger and stranger!
> 
> -- 
> - Scott Anguish -
> sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
> 

It is weird but I have been told by people at NeXT they
are interested in recycling, and so that is why some
boxes are being reused and seem to have labels of other
software vendors ;')

Todd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jbone@splat.dell.com (Jeff Bone)
Subject: Re: NT: please define vapor.
Organization: Dell Computer Co
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:14:29 GMT


jhenshaw@microsoft.com (Jeff Henshaw) writes:

>| Well, depends on what functionality you mean.  If it looks like UNIX,
>| it's UNIX --- if not, its not.  It's the total package I'm interested
>| in, personally.  As for market share...

Kill it before it spreads!  How did this snippet from my posting
get over here?  I thought this argument was confined to c.s.n.advocacy?


>First of all, you *really* need to define what "vapor" is if you're
>going to reference products in relation to it.  If you mean that
>"vapor" is a product that has been announced, but is not yet
>being distributed to the general public in a release form, then
>yes (listen to the Microsoft employee say this :-), NT is vapor.

That about sums up vapor as far as I'm concerned.  This product,
which has no end users at all, has somehow created what basically
amounts to market hysteria.  Sanity check!  As of today, 9/10/92,
NT has 0, that's *0* end users.  I'd call that vapor.


Standard dissing, standard disclaimers. ;)


jb



--
-- Jeff Bone ------------------------------------------------------------
                  NT...  Just say N0T.  (Viva UN*X!)                      
------------------------------------------------------- jbone@dell.com --
                                                                       --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: tlm@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Re: Version of TeX on NS3.0?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 01:06:41 GMT

In <1992Sep5.231232.6348@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> cswoyer@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Chris Swoyer) writes:

>Which version of dvips, TeXview, and tex come with NS3.0 (anyone know
>if dvips and TeXview as new as the latest versions on
>labrea.stanford.edu)?

dvips 5490, TeXview 3.0, and "Pi" TeX, i.e. Unix TeX 3.14 I believe.
The dvips is the latest out (although there will be a dvips 5492 shortly, 
since a couple of bugs have been found in the last 3-4 weeks) and the 
TeXview is actually *newer* than that on Labrea because the new features
work only under NeXTstep 3.0.  There is also an almost entirely new manual.

Hope this is Helpful --- tom


Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: orion@proxima.cc.colorado.edu (Orion Edward Poplawski)
Subject: WriteNow startup problem solved - why?
Keywords: fonts,writenow
Reply-To: orion@proxima.cc.colorado.edu
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:54:47 GMT

    Through the suggestion of Mark Doucet, I deleted the two public domain  
fonts that I had downloaded, updated the font index, and WriteNow worked just  
fine again.  Now, does anyone have any idea why these fonts are mucking up  
WriteNow?  It seems that if there is some sort of postscript rule that the  
people who wrote the fonts are breaking they should find out about it.  Or, is  
it possible that it is WriteNow's problem?

-----
Orion Poplawski
Physics Dept. Paraprofessional
The Colorado College
orion@proxima.cc.colorado.edu (NeXT mail OK)
(719)389-6750
From: ppoh@amethyst.tcs.tufts.edu (Paul B. Poh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NT / NeXT trivia
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:43:14 GMT
	<1992Sep10.133214.14819@socrates.umd.edu> <prqffd8@zola.esd.sgi.com>
	<2062@ltb.ltb.bso.nl>
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA


In article <2062@ltb.ltb.bso.nl> wierda@ltb.ltb.bso.nl (Gerben Wierda) writes:
>In <prqffd8@zola.esd.sgi.com> portuesi@tweezers.esd.sgi.com (Michael Portuesi) writes:
> >I find it interesting that in this thread (and in the
> >other which was comparing NeXTStep to Windows NT), that
> >the same people who were quick to label NT "vaporware"
> >seem to overlook that fact that NS 486 is equally
> >vaporous, even more so since NeXT is not making
> >NS 486 developers kits available for $69.

> Technically NeXT doesn't need to, since developing an App on the NeXT will
> make it run on NS 486. I can develop on my NeXT and run on NS 486. Fat
> binaries, remember? If 3.0 is already equipped with fat binaries, I don;t
> think so, but NS 486 will probably be 3.1 anyway.

Ah. But technically Microsoft doesn't need to release NT either since
developing for Windows 3.1 is also the same as developing for Windows NT. 

> The whole $69 devkit from NT is a very shrewd sales move. Instant market
> share 
> (look how many copies of NT I have sold....).

Maybe so. But which is the bigger company?? :=) :=)

--
Paul Poh                        Unix Systems Programmer
ppoh@amethyst.tcs.tufts.edu     Computer Services, Tufts University
From: dblakele@hercules.acpub.duke.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Getting lint
Date: 7 Sep 92 00:16:01 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.
Originator: dblakele@raphael.acpub.duke.edu

My wife, Denise (The C/Unix programming goddess in this household) was
mucking around for a sub-utility called line when executing a make
on her ray tracer last night.  Our Unix man pages make indirect referrals
to it, but it doesn't seem to be with our current distribution of Unix
utilities (NS2.1).  Would anybody be so kind as to point us to the
archive site and location to go about picking up lint.  (Yeah, I know.
Bad pun!)  Thanx.

Peace (dean's a little punchy after moonlighting at an emergency room
	last night)


-- 
| Dean D Blakeley, MD            | Internet:dblakele@acpub.duke.edu           |
| Ambulatory Care Service (11C)  | BITNET:blake007@dukemc.mc.duke.edu         |
| Durham VA Medical Center       | FORUM:blakeley,dean d@durham.va.gov        |
| Durham NC 27705                | NeXTMail accepted  #include <disclaim.h>   |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: billb@fnbc.com (Bill Burcham)
Subject: Re: ZyXEL 1496 modem
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 20:37:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.180022.20644@socrates.umd.edu>  
fletcher@socrates.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher) writes:
> Does anyone know where I can find a ZyXEL 1496 modem at a good (read:  
low 
> as possible) price?
> 
> Thanks in advance for the info.
> 
> 
> Charlie
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 	NeXTMail to:		|	...to confer, converse, and 
> 	charlie@technosci.com	|	otherwise hobnob with my    
> 				|	brother wizards.	    

Yeah.  I got mine from:  Black & White Software (Craig Goss):   
(802)496-5113.  He bundles a ZyXel in a _black_ case, with the _latest_  
ROMs that he has worked w/ ZyXel to tweak for the bundled NXFax software.   
You pay a premium for this level of integration, but mine worked  
flawlessly out of the box, and will auto-determine whether incoming calls  
are Fax, Modem, or Voice, and take appropriate action.

As Doctor Pournelle would say:  "Highly Recommended"
--
+--------------------------------+----------------------------------+
|          Bill Burcham          | "The real world is the place     |
|     Protector of the Realm     |  between your toilet at home and |
| First National Bank of Chicago |  your toilet at work."           |
|    billb@fnbc.com  (NeXTmail)  |                                  |
+--------------------------------+----------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rao@tree.egr.uh.edu (Jagannatha  Rao)
Subject: Re: Copying images from Webster DIctionary
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 23:33:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.165321.6196@menudo.uh.edu> rao@tree.egr.uh.edu (Jagannatha   
Rao) writes:
> 
> I amtrying the following on my Turbo Station, system 2.2. 
> 
> In the Webster application, I search for "cat" and get a nice picture to pop  
> out. I want to copy this picture and paste it in other documents but I am not  
> able to. I even tried to print this to preview and copy from there but it did  
> not work. 
> 
> Any suggestions?

Thanks to all who quickly pointed out that these pictures are in the directory:
	/NextLibrary/References/Webster-Dictionary/pictures
from where they can be viewed, copied etc. 

I am impressed that there are so many neat pictures (particulary the Wolverine,  
which my alumni asooc. can surely use :-) )
and surprised that I did not know about them for so long. 

BTW, these pictures must surely be under a copyright. So, is it legal if we use  
these pictures in another document/icon/etc. and acknowledge the copyright?

Please clarify.

--
Jagannatha Rao				E-mail:rao@tree.egr.uh.edu
Department of Mechanical Engineering    Tel   :(713) 743-4535
University of Houston                   Fax   :(713) 743-4503
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Info on getting 3.0 and CD-ROM player (was: Re: CD-ROM question, NeXT customer support gripe)
Date: 7 Sep 1992 03:06:09 GMT
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


In article <Bu4n5G.B4@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
>* NeXT hired another company to do the actual shipping of the 3.0  
>software.  I'm forgetting exactly what I was told by NeXT, but I think  
>they ship around 250 3.0's per day.
                  ^^^

If this is true, then about 40 working days will be required to ship all the
3.0 orders NeXT has received to date.  So I doubt this is true.  However, I
ordered 3.0 in May and haven't received it yet.  Has anyone who ordered it
later received it already?  If so, I'd better contact Order Management and make
sure they think I've ordered it (I did finally receive the CD-ROM drive,
though).
-- 

Art Isbell                                                      Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Developer #745         NeXT software development and consulting
Email: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU                                Voice: (408)335-1154
USmail: 95018-9442                                           Fax: (408)335-2515
From: paul@music.sie.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: is NeXT's stty non-standard?
Keywords: stty,extproc,undocumented feature
Date: 10 Sep 92 23:45:52 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group

I posted a similar plea for help several months ago, but got no answers.   
Figured I'd try again.  Can anyone tell me what "extproc" does in stty?   
It is undocumented, but seems to be needed to use telnet from Sun's.  I'd  
really like to know what it is...

--paul
paul@music.sie.arizona.edu
(NeXT mail appreciated)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Subject: Re: CDplayer 0.8 doesn't work.
Reply-To: jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:35:34 GMT

gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes:
>I'm  
>reluctant to post the message given that Release 3.0 is supposed to come  
>with a music CD application of it's own, which should make playing CD's a  
>lot easier than this CDPlayer application does.

Actually, the CDPlayer Release notes say that if you've got a SCSI
device 0 and 1 hooked up this CDPlayer app that comes w/ 3.0 won't
find your CD-ROM drive.  It's a bug.

I think a lot of people are going to be bitten by this one: people who
bought a NeXT setup (and therefore now have a SCSI device set to ID#
1) and added a new device (for booting) at #0.  NeXT didn't ship me
the docs for the Quantum drive I received so I have no idea how to
change the Quantum drive (now my #1 SCSI ID device) to something like
#3.

From what I saw of the CDPlayer app that NeXT provides as a demo in
3.0, it looks neat, but I hope they fix this situation soon.
-- 
-- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
-- No NeXTmail please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: yoda@next2.cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther)
Subject: automatic powerOn
Reply-To: yoda@next2.cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther)
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:09:00 GMT

Hi,

has anyone figured out how to set the automatic poweron time
from the unix commandline ? I want my next to automatically
startup every day at 8am and i dont want to go through
Preferences all the time...

Any Ideas ???

Yoda
From: oschmid@cube.de (Ottmar Schmid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: addresses of software companies
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:28:07 GMT
Organization: Cube Informationssysteme, GmbH


Hello,

is it possible to receive a list of addresses of Next software developers  
(electronic form would be very great). 

What I am looking for are especially e mail and fax addresses because phone is   
often too complicated and expensive (especially for foreign calls from Germany  
to USA).

Thanks in advance,

		Ottmar
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone)
Subject: NT / NeXT trivia
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 03:46:31 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

It's far from clear just why it happens but...

Trying to read ANY file from the Windows NT July prerelease
CD-ROM panics the NeXT 3.0 kernel.  You can see the filesystem,
just don't open anything.

Does this mean that NeXT can handle NT's existance, but the
details make them panic?  I don't wanna know.

Blake
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: kris@coyote.fdn.org (Christophe Janot)
Subject: Re: Fax Modems on Next
Reply-To: kris@coyote.fdn.org (Christophe Janot)
Organization: RNuG
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 22:34:05 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.203506.1498@fizz.fdn.gna.org> ben@fizz.fdn.gna.org (Benoit  
Grange) writes:
> - I would like to know what are the fax/modems currently supported with NS  
> 3.0 (V32bis/V42/V42bis is required).

Dove released the DoveFax 14.4. I saw it in NeXTConnection advertisement in the  
fall issue of NeXTWorld. My only experience with Dove products is the DoveFax  
2400, No problemo.

Kris
-- 
When will RightBrain stop filling the netnews
with their advertising or marketing posts ?
> NeXTmail [kris@coyote.fdn.org]
From: tholland@pars.skidmore.edu (Anthony Holland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Seybold Conference in SF -- where/how ?
Keywords: Seybold
Date: 10 Sep 92 01:42:58 GMT
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY

I just learned I'll be in San Francisco on Sept. 25 with a free day and am  
wondering where the Seybold conference is going to be held there ?  By the  
way, what is this conference ?  I understand Steve Jobs is the keynote  
speaker ??  Anybody have any info ?  Thanks

Anthony Holland
Skidmore
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: NEW language list, with 100% more than the FAQ sheet!
Reply-To: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Organization: NNU Corp. - NeXT is Not UN*X
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:22:36 GMT

> 
> **** TCL
> 
> TCL is an embeddable tool command language.  It's pretty slick, but
> I've not worked with it much.  To find out more (like current version,
> and where it's at), contact:
> 
> 	John Ousterhout (ouster@sprite.berkeley.edu)
> 

Better to look at

	comp.lang.tcl

TCL runs well on most UNIX-Systems, and there is also TK, a Motif-Clone,  
which can be programmed in TCL. As I believe, TK is the best way to avoid  
Motif-Hassles (reading 0.7 metres of literature before getting a straight  
line on screen ...) and runs fine on NeXT. TCL/TK can be used after 2-3  
days only !

-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------
Thomas Funke  ** E-mail: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de
NeXT-Developer * Unix-Consultant
------------------------------------------------------------------
From: gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXTStep3.0 from OD: It just works!
Date: 7 Sep 92 17:46:52 GMT
Reply-To: gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I was a little worried about the installation of 3.0, since I don't
have a floppy drive. After some discussions I just copied the floppy from a  
NeXT station over to my OD and ran the installation preparation app from there.
The result, just the way Steve Jobs wants it to be:
"It just works!"
I was very impressed by the upgrade package which really walks you through
the procedure and even asks if you want a copy of the changes made. It 
makes a personalized upgrade plan for you and even discusses the plan with you:  
you can edit what files should be left alone nicely colored bullets of which  
files will be affected etc.
Kinda reminds me of a holistic, new age birth program, very gentle to the new  
baby 3.0...



--
Gottfried Mayer-Kress
Center for Complex Systems Research, Department of Physics
3025 Beckman Institute, 405 N Mathews, Urbana, Il 61801
gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (NeXT-Mail)
gmk@goshawk.lanl.gov, gmk@santafe.edu 
(217)-244-5877 (voice/fax modem),x8371(fax), x1994 (msg)