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From: an3776@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Labial Piercing
Organization: Anonymous contact service
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:12:56 GMT



My SO had a labial pierce awhile ago but complained of
hardening around the pierced area.  Is this part of the normal
healing process or should it be of some concern.  Any info
would be appreciated.
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From: bacchus@mcl.ucsb.edu (Graham Linn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Pat Fish in FAQ!
Date: 25 Jan 93 08:17:52 GMT

Well, I just read most of the FAQ and noticed that Pat Fish was mentioned as a
good artist here in Santa Barbara.  I got a Celtic piece from her and I _LOVE_

it!  She was very agreeable to my changes and the other work in her portfolio
was just as good.  I took a lion from the book of Kells and reversed it,
removed a halo, etc.  She then did it in black line with some very good and
subtle shading.  I originally went there because my roommate got two Native
American Tribals done there, one a cover and one new, which she also did a
great job on.  If anyone makes the trip here to get some work done, I would
love to see it so mail me!
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: A Cute Story
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:26:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: unisql.4619
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1993Jan26.043210.29302@Virginia.EDU> mns3h@Virginia.EDU ("Michelle Speir") writes:
>I just thought I'd share that with you guys, since I thought it
>was so neat to have something like that happen, all
>because of one letter I wrote on an exam-fried Friday night.


ObBodyart:  Tune in next week when Michelle and friend finally meet, discover
each has the exact same tattoo on his or her left hip, signifying that they
are long-lost brother and sister, separated at birth.  The taboo of incest
sours their love, and they part, doomed to wander through life bitter, 
confused, and alone, until reunited on "Geraldo" many years later.

COMING SOON:  Pit bulls on crack and the women who love them too much.




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Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: selvidge@ide.com (Leah Selvidge)
Subject: YO!! RAY SHEA!!
Summary: What's up??
Originator: selvidge@demo
Organization: Interactive Development Environments, SF
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:26:32 GMT

Say hey, Ray. I cleaned up my mailbox and dumped your address out. Drop me a 
line when you get a chance. Oh yeah, and where's my Shiner?? I'm jonesin'
big time here in San Franpsycho??

Leah
From: hnb5164@tamuts.tamu.edu (Heather Noel Bobbie)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Henna
Date: 22 Jan 1993 23:29:53 GMT
Organization: ~/lib/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamuts.tamu.edu

In article <1993Jan21.235228.17930@cc.gatech.edu> kali@cc.gatech.edu (Khaled S. Ali) writes:
>Someone posted an interesting article about bodyart using henna.  I do not know
>much about this.  How long does something like this last?

it can last nearly a week, if you take care of it well..
usually it will last three or four days.

a while ago i asked on soc.culture.india for information on
henna/mehndi, and got many interesting responses of ways to
mix and apply the henna.  if anyone is interested in this,
you can mail me and i will send it to you..

heather

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From: tspindle@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (tom spindler)
Subject: Re: amphallangs and other penis piercings
Keywords: piercings, body art
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:09:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.231006.958@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> mtonaszu@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Marc Tonaszuck) writes:

>      Also, does anyone know of a piercer in or around Boston?  Does
>anyone have first-hand knowledge about him/her?  Any response is
>appreciated.

Check out Innovations in Leather on Tremont. I think the address is
301A, don't remember for sure. Look in the phone book.

No first-hand knowledge of how good the piercer is, but she seemed to know
what she was talking about.
From: dlytle@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (Don Lytle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: The Association for the Study of Play Conference
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:54:54 GMT
Reply-To: dlytle@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: oavax.csuchico.edu


                         *****   ANNOUNCEMENT AND CALL FOR PAPERS   *****

                                     TASP 1993 - St. Paul, MN
                             The Association for the Study of Play
              April 22 - 24, 1993 * The St. Paul Hotel * St. Paul, Minnesota

     The Association For The Study of Play (TASP) will hold its 1993 annual meetings in St. Paul, Minnesota.  The conference will begin Thursday and continue until Saturday, April 24.  There will be featured speakers, playshops, and forums for the discussion and presentation of research papers on all aspects of play research, theory, performance and behavior.
     TASP conferences traditionally have provided a mechanism by which researchers in diverse fields have the opportunity to share ideas and interact in a friendly and collegial atmosphere.
     Papers and proposals for panel sessions or tutorials related to the broad study of play are invited.  Sessions include, but are not limited to:
 - Humor, laughter
 - Computer and cyperspace play
 - Folklore
 - Children's play behavior
 - Cross-cultural play
 - Body work and play art
 - Performance 
 - Anthropology of festive play
 - Sport
 - Literary playfulness

Deadline for submission of abstracts is February 5, 1993.

Send abstracts (100 word maximum), audio-visual needs, and registration fees  ($60 professional and $20 student made payable to TASP) to:

Dr. Don Lytle
Department of Physical Education
California State University, Chico  95929-0330. 
Bitnet/E-Mail: DLYTLE@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU; FAX: 916 898-4932; 
Phone: {916} 898-6617 or 898-6373 {message}/894-5028 {evening}.
From: dos@major.panix.com (Dave O'Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: nipple pierce
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 21:16:25 EST
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department

miolnir@stein.u.washington.edu (Miolnir) writes:

> I'm considering getting my left nip pierced and I'd like to hear
> from people who've had just one done. Does it feel "off balance"
> or are there any problems with just one. Also, any reccomendatitions
> for a place in seattle? TIA

I had one done, and waited several years to have the other one done.
Didn't feel "off balance" or anything - any more than parting your hair
on one side does.

Guy who did the first piercing said to me that he bet I'd get the other
one pierced eventually - and I said "no way!" - as I was still woozy
from watching a large needle make its' way through my nipple! - but
he was right; The one pierced nipple felt so nice (and looked nice, IMO)
that it made sense to have the other one done.
From: dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe)
Subject: Re: nipple/tongue piercing
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:07:24 GMT
Distribution: usa

>With nipple & tongue piercings, how long before they stop
>oozing serum/blood? 

i know nothing about nipples
i mean piercings that is :)
but as far as tongues go..
no blood, a lot of drool when it gets done
and maybe a little while after
but no blood

>Will they ever get to a point where you can remove the jewlery for a
>day or so & then put it back in? If so, in how long?

THAT.. i dont know...
6 months after teh pierce was doen i took it out for a few hours 
and it closed up pretty tight
the skin didnt rejoin, but the 12 ga bar wasnt too happy going in
i took up whoevers idea to soak it in listerine
it was out for an hour maybe two  and didnt have a problem
but i think a day would be pushing it for quite some time

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: pa_aml@dec17.coe.northeastern.edu (Andrew Lewis)
Subject: Re: Questions about Tongue Pierces
Organization: College of Engineering, Northeastern University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:52:56 GMT

Toungue piercing:  not painful at all...was my easiest pierce.  slightly
sore fore about 3 days, as long as it was swelled.  changed the barbell from 
an inch to 9/16 after 3 weeks.  Took about 2-3 days to relearn to talk.
Now takes about 30 minutes when i put my long barbell back in....
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: spider@netcom.com (Mark Lovell)
Subject: Re: Which ear? Why?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:10:31 GMT

Greg W Burnham (comptec90012@camins.camosun.bc.ca) wrote:

: As I understand it, back in the more closeminded era of _male_ ear
: piercing (i.e. the mid eighties), if a man got his right ear pierced
: it ment he was gay (gasp, oh horror of horrors).  I think that this
: is why most men have more in the left than the right.


A recent column in a San Francisco weekly (Ask Isadora) asked the the
same question.  Her observation was that in the SF area (or at least
amongst those she asked), that a left side piercing was a dominant
indicator and right side was a submissive indicator.  Same as with
hanky codes and key codes.  PErsonally I think she made it up, I live
in the area and never heard anyone descripe it that way.
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Subject: Re: donating blood
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 25 Jan 93 01:20:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


-> > The canadian red cross deny blood giving to anyone who has been
-> > tattooed within the past 12 months.

-> What about piercings?

 Oh, I guess it's OK when *their* vampires jab you with a needle and
drain your blood.

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From: John.Nieder@f133.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (John Nieder)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: PALM TATTOOS
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:44:23 GMT


 -=> Quoting susan samarasinghe to All <=-

 ss> i have heard that tatoos on the palms wear off very quickly, and
 ss> tatoo artists of yesteryear used it as a place to test their needles.
 ss> this is all i know....anyone else? hi dee ho!

My bloodbrother has some palm charms done in prison, but they became
indistinct after a few years.  When he lived with me here in SF, we went
to Tuttle's & had them dressed up cleanly, but the new work wore off
completely in a matter of months.  The old tattoos remain - real
bonegrinder stuff, I guess, & not pretty - but 95% of tattoos look
horrible after ten years anyway...
        JN


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From: dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe)
Subject: Re: amphallangs and other penis piercings
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:43:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.082821.4795@netcom.com> spider@netcom.com (Mark Lovell) writes:

>What can I say? It was the most profoundly (puposeful) Pain I've ever
>endured (an amplang).  And I'd do it again too.

kinda scary isnt it?
i would love to go through it again
not the week afterward so much
but the actual pierce? anyday

>: preparations one should take before getting one.  What exactly is the
>
>I walked into the shop with my gf, and without prior warning to her,
>arranged to have it done.  She asked me if I knew what I was doing, and
>the owner of the shop (a friend of hers) told her this is not something
>people do without thinking about it.  It sounds like you've been thinking.

well think about it, decide to do it, and if you are the type that gets nervous
forget about it

i didnt think about it for the whole day until i was stuck in rush
hour traffic on the way to get it done
made things difficult
but i stopped thinking about it again
and i think that made things a little smoother

i was going to bring a friend,
but i realized she would have just talked non stop about it
and that wouldnt have made me any better
she was mad i didnt bring her along
but she also would have laughed at some point
or made funny faces.. dont bring such people along
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				   ,
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From: dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe)
Subject: Re: nipple pierce
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 23 Jan 93 06:08:46 GMT

In article <3H6sXB3w165w@major.panix.com> dos@major.panix.com (Dave O'Shea) writes:

>Didn't feel "off balance" or anything - any more than parting your hair
>on one side does.

hey! you know.,. i thought it would be pretty silly to be put off balance
by hair, but then my hair has grown three time longer
and i dont know if i just do it to keep the hair out of my eyes
but my head is always tilted to the side with the most hair is on

mind you my hair weighs a _BiT_ more than a ring

but i think this person is talking about being off balance
ina  symmetrical way

lots of guys have only one earing and probably dont feel off balance
or maybe someone with 5 rings in one ear and one in the other
i dont know of anyone who notices that either
interesting thought though
maybe we should feel off balance
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Subject: removing circular barbell in nipple?!
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:04:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


-> Sorry about the yelling.  I know that at least one of the beads is
-> supposed to unscrew.  I have tried turning both of them in both
-> directions and had no luck.

 Whoever screwed them on must've socked 'em down good.

 You could probably use pliers with a piece of leather or folded cloth
for padding (so you don't scratch the ball) and unscrew it easily
enough.

 I'm pretty sure I've seen aluminum or plastic jaw pliers, but I can't
for the life of me remember where.
                                                                                                                   
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From: speights@iear.arts.rpi.edu (Arlen Speights)
Subject: Re: nipple question
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:27:28 GMT

ebail@ctp.com (Erik Bailey) writes:

>>just a quick question....i got my nipple pierced about two months ago,
>>and it seemed to heal fine, but lately it has been forming hard crusts
>>around one side of the ring and generally oozing, not much but it was
>>more than a month ago.  It's not painful, but ....

>I've had similar things happen to mine (I got them in October). They seem
>to be 100% healed by now, but they did in fact "regress" in much the same
>way you are describing. Several times in each nipple I had a "sheathing"
>effect, where I would essentially pull dead skin from inside the nipple out

I've had my right nipple pierced for nearly 9 months now, and had both
of the problems mentioned above.  I think that the oozing on one side
of the ring might be due to the curvature of the ring causing pressure
on the nipple (I have a 14ga 1/2" ring in it).  On mine the hole actually
migrated down (toward my feet :-) and left some scar tissue above, where
the hole initially was.  I'd consider getting a larger diameter ring if
it continues.

Arlen
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From: redman@selway.umt.edu (Gutmun Key)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Which ear? Why?
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:54:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: selway.1993Jan27.185418.11518
Organization: University of Montana

i just got my left ear pierced again.  then just the other night i got another
earing in it.  that makes three earings in 2 holes left side.  not unbalanced.
well, at least not from the earings.  i can offer a theory for a left bias
though.  when i got my first earing back in high school, anything in the right
ear was considered to make you less than man.  well i think it could have 
started a trend.  someday i may get my right ear pierced but i'm more inclined
to think about more important piercing right now.  

just a thought.

redman.

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From: tpb2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (TONY PATRICK BLAKE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: One more question
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:46:16 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University



    last year i got my ear pierced.  the stud was gold.  after a couple days
    of bloody crust, i started to get puss.

    after about three months of just a small coating of puss on the stud, it
    got worse.  i always kept it clean.  i finally just remove it, and the
    hole closed.

    does this indicate an allergy?  or is it something else?

    -tony



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From: ebail@ctp.com (Erik Bailey)
Subject: Re: nipple question
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:06:25 GMT

In article <ofLOnNq00WB08=PEwH@andrew.cmu.edu> Andrew Steven Raab <ar2b+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>just a quick question....i got my nipple pierced about two months ago,
>and it seemed to heal fine, but lately it has been forming hard crusts
>around one side of the ring and generally oozing, not much but it was
>more than a month ago.  It's not painful, but ....

I've had similar things happen to mine (I got them in October). They seem
to be 100% healed by now, but they did in fact "regress" in much the same
way you are describing. Several times in each nipple I had a "sheathing"
effect, where I would essentially pull dead skin from inside the nipple out
onto the ring, where it coated it in much the same way as plastic
insulation coats an electical wire. I would peel it off with my
fingernails, and all would be hunkey-doret.

>Is this normal?  When does it stop?  What should i do to help it?

Yes (I think), Soon, and just keep it clean (soap & water, betadine, etc.).
It will be fine in time. --Erik

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From: bcorkum@hamp.hampshire.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: removing circular barbell in nipple?!
Date: 21 Jan 93 11:50:31 EDT
Organization: Hampshire College
NNTP-Posting-Host: hamp.hampshire.edu

I have a very important question about the circular barbell in my left
nipple.

HOW THE HELL DO I GET IT OUT?

Sorry about the yelling.  I know that at least one of the beads is supposed
to unscrew.  I have tried turning both of them in both directions and had
no luck.

Is there some special technique I don't know about?

Any advice is muchly appreciated.

Thanx, Beth ;>

Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: ring@inf.fu-berlin.de (Rod J. Ring)
Subject: tats in Berlin / FAQ
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany, Computer Science
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:54:19 GMT


Hi, there.

Could anybody here please help me with advice and hints as to
tattooists and parlors in Berlin, Germany?  Who's good, who's best?
Or is it better to go some place else in Europe (which of course
would mean a considerable increase in expences)?  I have visited
four parlors here in Berlin, but none of the artists (if you can
call them artists) were very sympathetic...

As for the recent FAQ:  I definitely do appreciate the effort Paul
put into compiling this FAQ, thank you very much, but as a non-native
speaker of English I have to admit that I find it terribly confusing,
unfortunately mainly the interesting part about taking care of a new
tat.

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From: kali@cc.gatech.edu (Khaled S. Ali)
Subject: Henna
Followup-To: Presidential Bodyart
Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:52:28 GMT

Someone posted an interesting article about bodyart using henna.  I do not know
much about this.  How long does something like this last?
-- 
					
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From: santoram@max.u.washington.edu (-Michael)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: RE: :nipple Pierce
Date: 23 Jan 93 12:13:56 PST
Organization: 
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: max.u.washington.edu

 miolnir@stein.u.washington.edu (Miolnir) writes:
> Anyway, has any one heard of Ahna Edwards? She's comeing up here in a
> couple of weeks and I thought I might have it dine by her.

I haven't had any personal experience with Ahna, but I have heard a
few pretty sketchy things about her.  I had my nipples done by BJ, and
she lives in downtown Seattle proper.  She only works by appointment,
though.  You can get her number by calling the Seattle Tattoo Emporium
(don't have the number on me. Sorry.).

She's a really cool person, and she really knows what she's doing. I
know that I'd recommend her as the one person in Seattle to go to if
you want to run large needles through your flesh.

-Michael.