HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sfm@math.ufl.edu (Santa for Me)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Violence against women....
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:20:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: math.1992Sep28.132051.1650
Organization: University of Florida Department of Mathematics


 
>> => In article <Bv4Bn7.MH8@world.std.com>, cmr@world.std.com
>> => (Charles M Richmond) writes:
>> =>
>> => Masuda-san

   [ommission]

      ... It should not be the woman's responsibility if the
>> => man uses force, or if the man uses his superior position in the company.
>> => The woman is prudent to avoid dangerous situations but the man's actions
>> => are his responsibility and he can not force his will... that is rape.
>> 


	Charles Richmond,

	Unsure what you meant exactly in the above article.  Rape occurs
in situations not restricted to 'force':

.............
(Webster's)

3 rape n (15c)
    1: an act or instance of robbing or despoiling or carrying away a person 
    by force
    2a: sexual intercourse with a woman by a man without her consent and
						 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    chiefly by force or deception -- compare STATUTORY RAPE
			^^^^^^^^^
    2b: unlawful sexual intercourse by force or threat other than by a 
    man with a woman
    3: an outrageous violation
..............

	An article was posted in a local newspaper by a man who had
had sexual intercourse with his girlfriend (one year long relationship)
after she had passed out from excessive consumption of alcohol.  Upon
telling her of his action (out of guilt), she angrily explained that 
*that was rape*  and left him, seeking help/guidance from a rape-crisis
recovery center.  

	The point here is that too often we tend to associate only aggressive,
forceful acions with a violent act such as rape.  Whether it is by force,
threat, persuasion or deception, it is a violent act.

	Again, unsure what you meant exactly, no flame intended.

servio
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: u913142@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Hajime Yoji)
Subject: Macintosh Japanese WP Wanted
Organization: Uni of Tasmania
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 01:13:38 GMT

Our Japanese Language Department is in big trouble.  We used to use Japanese
Word Processor machine purchased from Japan.  Unfortunately, the machine 
broke down and we are in deep s.... 
So our dept decided to find WP software for MAC(not for DOS).
Could anyone help us, pleeeeaseeeee!!!

Kanshya, Kansya.

Hajime Yoji.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tanaka@til.til.com (Yokichi Tanaka)
Subject: Re: Question on Dates?
Organization: Togai InfraLogic, Inc.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:37:08 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.004456.12981@u.washington.edu>, tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu () writes:
|> In article <SMITTIE.92Oct1155148@beach.csulb.edu> smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie) writes:
|> >But it is my understanding that Showa 64 won't be recorded. Rather Heisei 1
|> >will go retroactive to Jan. 1. Am I wrong again??
|> 
|> Yes, you are wrong. That one week is Showa 64.
|> 

I'm not so sure.  Maybe "officially" that one week is Showa 64,
but for all practical purposes 1989 = Heisei 1.  No one is going
to remember or use the cut off date to differentiate Showa 64 
and Heisei 1.  Frankly, I wish Japan would switch over to
19xx system.  Try calculating the age of your great
grand-father who was born in the Meiji era.  Hmm ... let's see.

-- 
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tanaka@til.com             Irvine, California, USA
uunet!til!tanaka           714-975-8522
In case you're wondering ... I am male.
"The more you drive, the less intelligent you are."
From: harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: girl that dies in school gate
Date: 30 Sep 92 04:18:10 GMT
	<0elex2e00aw3ANUld5@andrew.cmu.edu>
Organization: Yokogawa Electric Corporation, Tokyo, Japan
In-reply-to: si0l+@andrew.cmu.edu's message of 27 Sep 92 23:07:46 GMT

In article <0elex2e00aw3ANUld5@andrew.cmu.edu> si0l+@andrew.cmu.edu
   (Soshi Iba) writes:

 =}After the accident,
 =}he was referred to as a "devil teacher", especially by Hiroshi Kume
 =}(news caster of "NEWS STATION") and other mass medias.  Basically, he
 =}just carried out the procedure set by the school (which was to close the
 =}gate after the morning bell), but many picked on him as a person.

   Kume-san and the others were not burning him for doing his job,
they were burning him for the way he did it.  He closed the gate
carelessly with much more force than neccesary.  His flagrant
disregard for the safety of the students was the reason for the
name demon-teacher (/devil-teacher/).
From: tao@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Eric Yihching Tao)
Subject: Need friends in Irvine, California area.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 28 Sep 92 06:17:52 GMT

Hi, netters from Japan,

I am a student in Univ. of California, Irvine. I am in the Ph.D. program of
Electrical & Computer Engineering dept.

With great interests for Japan's cultur, language and development, I like to 
know some people from japan. I am taking Japanese class, too.

I am interested in tennis, golf, movie and classical music. I am from Taiwan,
ROC and has been in U.S. for 7 years.

Please e-mail me if you are interested in meeting some new people.

Eric 
Tel: 714-856-9401

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: yoichi@milton.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii)
Subject: Re: Mr. Baseball (Again!)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 09:39:37 GMT

robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:
>BTW, Linda, it's the republicans who support free trade, so I'd imagine
>if anything it's the Democrats who want protectionism by bashing foreign
>countries.

I thought being a Republican *by itself* was some sort of sin at Cal :-)  ... 
in any case, there are people like Pat Buchanan(sp?) on the Republican side 
as well.

BTW in the ad for the movie, Tom Selleck seems to be wearing the uniform for
the Dragons (Chunichi), which happens to be DEAD LAST in their league this
year.  Perhaps they could have used another "suketto-gaijin" (a temporary
help foreign player) :-)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu ()
Subject: Re: Question on Dates?
Organization: clearer than blir
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:44:56 GMT

In article <SMITTIE.92Oct1155148@beach.csulb.edu> smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie) writes:
>But it is my understanding that Showa 64 won't be recorded. Rather Heisei 1
>will go retroactive to Jan. 1. Am I wrong again??

Yes, you are wrong. That one week is Showa 64.

-- Tad Perry   Internet:    tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu
               CompuServe:  70402,3020
               NIFTY-Serve: GBG01266
From: jfriedl+@CS.CMU.EDU (Jeffrey Friedl)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Mr. Baseball (Again!)
Date: 2 Oct 92 07:26:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.BvHGnH.H2I.1
Reply-To: jfriedl@cs.cmu.edu
Organization: Carnegie Mellon / Omron Corporation

lindaa@sooth.Berkeley.EDU (Linda Absher) writes:
|> Since he's pretty much told the same story in every show, I suspect he's
|> got a hidden agenda for his statements (he's very republican...).
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
And just what the (*expletive*) is that supposed to mean?

I don't know anything about this "Mr. Baseball" thing (everything I have
heard has been pretty sickining, though) and don't know much about
Tom "make-me-gag" Selleck, but I do know some about American politics and
some about things Japan, but apparently not enough to understand your little
tidbit there.

Re: being a monster in Japan
The only time I get kids hiding from me is if they're very young
(2-4 years) and I make eye contact (i.e. I'm looking at the cute kid).
They usually hide behind mom's leg.  Could be because I don't look Japanese,
because of my height, or because kids that age anywhere tend to be shy
with strangers (and I'm strange :-)

As far as getting stared at with gaping mouths, it happens to me rarely in
populated areas, but go into the deep countryside and it's the norm
(at least in my experience) [Andy, remember that trip to Kyushu? :-)].

	*jeff*

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Omron Corporation, Section RZE, Shimokaiinji, Nagaokakyo Kyoto 617, Japan
Visiting researcher to the Mach Project, Carnegie Mellon University
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: collins@socrates.umd.edu (Jim C)
Subject: Japanese Dialout Wanted
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 03:34:34 GMT

I'm looking for a dialout in Japan. Tokyo is preferred, but anywhere will do.
It has to be telnettable, obviously.
This isn't exactly the right newsgroup, but it's as close as it gets...
Information will be greatly appriciated, flames and "what's a dialout?" will
be forwarded to /dev/null.
BTW, if anyone knows of a outgoing fax server in Tokyo, 
that would be nice too :-)...






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body will understand it long before your mind puts words to it. No amount of
understanding without practice will work. It is not necessary that knowledge 
precede experience. Performance will produce knowledge."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Primer)
Subject: Re: Mr. Baseball (Again!)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 05:37:41 GMT

ccavers@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Cam Cavers) writes:

>Just out of curiousity, do any other of the North Americans here (besides me)
>remeber being scared by people who appear very different than what they are
>used to? (when you were a kid, or even now...)
>
>For example, if a bearded biker-type gets on a bus, a lot of adults will shy
>away from him; the children are usually split between those who are scared, and
>those who will ask him about his tattoos. I think people judge others on
>appearance too much, but it really can't be helped.
>
>(I hope to visit Japan someday (when this university thing is done with) and
>maybe even teach over there. Obviously, I am a little concerned how children
>will react when they see a 6 foot 4 inch white guy standing in front of
>them...:) )
   *chuckle* yup this sounds like a reasonable argument to me. The same reaction goes for any black American who enters a predominately white area.

That reminds me of a line from "Mr. Baseball" 
Selleck is bemoaning his treatment to his fellow American teammate(a black man)
When the the teammate(soory can't remember the name) says that being a foriengner "is like being black, only there are fewer of us". 

-- 
 "I believe only in those conspiracies which do not exist. Everything is
connected, but nothing makes sense....I'm pretty sure the Republican
party exists, and that it has connections all the way up to the White
House."  -Steve Jackson (his global conspiracy theory)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi)
Subject: Re: girl that dies in school gate
Organization: DEC Japan Research and Development Center
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:37:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.160107.3801@island.COM>, fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
# In article <Bv9vIz.JMJ@jrd.dec.com> doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi) writes:
# >In article <1992Sep28.001407.27460@bnr.ca>, davev@bnr.ca (David Villeneuve) writes:
# >#    Hmmm. I hope this is not indicative of discipline in the Japanese
# >#    school system....
# >
# >I don't necessarily feel that the teachers should kill the students
# >who don't follow directions in school, but I think the Japanese
# >schools now are too lenient.
# >The news reported that many students were always late to class.
# >They didn't care about following rules.  So they started to close
# >the gate when it was time for school to begin.  This was after many
# >other attempts to try to make the students come to school on time.
# 
# Not a flame, but this points out a HUGE difference in the outlook of the
# "typical" Japanese and "typical" American in handling student discipline
# problems.

Yes.  That the Japanese are too lenient.
I grew up in the US (suburbs of Chicago), so I only know how discipline
is handled in Japan from TV, newspapers, etc.

# I was in Japan when the incident happened, and I remember the
# papers running articles on that and other incidents where teachers used
# extreme methods to "correct" bad behavior. One incident in particular; in
# Kyushu (sorry, don't remember the exact city) 4 unruly boys were taken to
# the nearby beach by a group of teachers and buried up to their necks near
# the middle of the low-high tide mark! Tide started coming in, the boys got
# several mouthfuls of saltwater and were then dug up by the teachers. At the
# equivalent of the PTA meeting to discuss the situation, the parents of 3 of
# the boys got up and formally thanked the teachers for taking such an interest
# in the boys' behavior, and apologized for the offending behavior. The parents
# of the 4th boy wondered if this may have been too severe, and asked that the
# teachers take care that no harm come to any such student next time.

If these boys went to school in the US, they probably would have been in
jail, or would have been kicked out of school.  Also this is probably an
extreme case.  I have heard other cases where the teachers shaved the
student's heads, etc.

But the problem is that in Japan, people don't care about "rules".
Students break rules all the time because they know they aren't
going to get punished, unless they go way over the line.
The parents also should discipline their kids.  Lot of Japanese parents
now NEVER hit their kids...
--
Hitoshi Doi, International Open Systems Engineering        doi@jrd.dec.com
Japan Research and Development Center               decwrl!jrd.dec.com!doi
Digital Equipment Corporation Japan          [from Japan: doi@dec-j.co.jp]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: Re: Amazed at the forgery (was: Re: 61 Years Ago,Northeast China)
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 09:40:24 GMT

On the forged article issue:
Charles Roten observes that:
* The forgery was at a very crude level.
* Such forgery is commonplace in soc.culture.china.
  [For that matter, in other newsgroups as well.]

And says:
>Hmmm .. maybe it's just me, but this looks to me like an over-reaction.  
	...
>IMO, amazed@at.the.silence wanted to call attention to his post in a 
>major way.  Mr. Aoki's reaction suggests that Mr. amazed@at.the.silence 
>succeeded, bigtime.  :-) :-)  

Although that may be the case, I'd still want to object
and voice my disconsent -- that bad things are bad,
and are not to be tolerated.

The reason, of course, is that forging a header (more specifically,
hiding one's identity) is a manifestation of total irresponsibility,
that the person would take no responsibility in what (s)he says,
and humiliate what is (or might have been) a serious discussion.

And I disagree with what Charles seems be suggesting that this is
only a mischievous prank, but that the crudeness of forgery (which
by itself allows him/herself to be completely tracked down) is
due to mere lack of network software knowledge.  Being such,
voicing our disapproval might even motivate this newbie
towards repentance (who knows?).

It would be sad if these wrongdoings (just like murder, accidents, etc.)
become so commonplace that noone starts caring about them and shrugs them away.

-Yuzuru Hiraga
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: Thu,  1 Oct 92 15:17:09 MDT
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Question on Dates?
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
From: luke@newt.ee.byu.edu (David Luke)

In article <1992Oct1.203606.21976@u.washington.edu> tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu writes:
>In article <7309@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:

>>Could someone please tell me the exact date that
>>Hirohito died, or more specifically, the last date
>>of the Showa era and the first date of the Heisei
>>era?

>My recollection, which will be corrected if wrong, is that Jan.6, 1989
>was the last day of Showa and Jan.7 was the first day of Heisei. I
>remember this because:

>#1 I thought it was weird that Showa 64 was less than a week long.

Not only that, but Taisho Tenno died about the last week in December, so
Showa 1 was only about a week long.  So, there are 64 years of Showa, but
Showa Tenno only reigned 62 years and 2 weeks.

>#2 I bought a train ticket on the morning of the 7th that said
>   64-01-07, a date that never really existed.

I have a couple of coins minted in "Showa 64", but that's not quite as 
impressive.
-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRVowZj9OO1YbKEI=?= )
Subject: pro baseball as of 1992.09.28
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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 07:16:04 GMT
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Lions		76 - 44 - 2	....	.279	3.42	O O X X
Buffaloes	65 - 49 - 6	 8.0	.246	3.85	X X X  O O
Blue Wave	58 - 61 - 4	17.5	.272	3.67	X O O O O O
Hawks		55 - 64 - 1	20.5	.262	4.55	X X O
Fighters	52 - 67 - 2	23.5	.260	4.16	X X X  X X (7 in a row)
Marines		50 - 71 - 1	26.5	.240	3.88	O O O X

Tigers		64 - 56 - 2	....	.251	2.94	X X X X O
Swallows	64 - 57 - 1	 0.5	.260	3.90	O X O O O X
Giants		65 - 60		 1.5	.263	3.66	O O O X X
Carp		60 - 63		 5.5	.261	3.62	X O X X X
Whales		59 - 65 - 1	 7.0	.250	3.81	X O X O O
Dragons		57 - 68		 9.5	.253	3.92	O X O X O O

The Lions' magic number is still 2 as the Lions lost two in a row
to the Blue Wave.  The Buffaloes won two in a row to keep their
hopes alive.

Kiyohara (Lions), Destrade (Lions), and Bryant (Buffaloes) all hit
their 36th homeruns yesterday to share the Pacific League homerun
lead.

Boomer (Hawks) is still leading the rbi race with 92, but Kiyohara
got his 90 and 91st rbi's yesterday with a two run homerun.
Akiyama (Lions) and Bryant have 88 each.

Takamura (Buffaloes) pitched a complete game for his 11th win
yesterday as he gave up 5 hits and struck out 11.  This gives him
a good chance at winning the rookie of the year title in the
Pacific League.

Kataoka (Fighters), also in the running for rookie of the year,
struck out 3 times against Takamura, and dropped his batting average
to .299.

pacific league batting
----------------------
			ba	hr	rbi	sb
Sasaki (Hawks)		.331	21	53	37
Tanabe (Lions)		.308	13	60	 4
Akiyama (Lions)		.302	31	88	11
Kataoka (Fighters)	.299	10	50	 5
Matsunaga (Blue Wave)	.298	 3	39	15
Nakajima (Fighters)	.298	13	65	 0
Takahashi (Blue Wave)	.295	29	76	 3
Yoshinaga (Hawks)	.292	19	47	 0
Ishige (Lions)		.292	 8	50	 9
Yugamidani (Hawks)	.286	 5	38	14
Ishii (Buffaloes)	.286	27	82	 3
Kiyohara (Lions)	.286	36	91	 3
Fukura (Blue Wave)	.285	 3	37	13
Hirano (Lions)		.285	 4	44	14

people who take the fun out of baseball (sacrifice bunts:-)

Hirano (Lions)		45
Fukura (Blue Wave)	23
Suzuki (Fighters)	23
Itoh (Lions)		23
Ohishi (Buffaloes)	22
Ishige (Lions)		21
Kataoka (Fighters)	17
Tanabe (Lions)		16

people who bring excitement to baseball (stolen bases:-)

Sasaki (Hawks)		37
Ohishi (Buffaloes)	30
Yoshida (Buffaloes)	23
Tsuji (Lions)		22
Suzuki (Fighters)	19
Matsunaga (Blue Wave)	15
Yugamidani (Hawks)	14
Hirano (Lions)		14
Murakami (Buffaloes)	14

--
Hitoshi Doi, International Open Systems Engineering        doi@jrd.dec.com
Japan Research and Development Center               decwrl!jrd.dec.com!doi
Digital Equipment Corporation Japan                     doi@decvax.dec.com
From: harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Interesting observations
Date: 28 Sep 92 00:08:25 GMT
Organization: Yokogawa Electric Corporation, Tokyo, Japan
In-reply-to: antunes@astro.psu.edu's message of 25 Sep 92 02:09:12 GMT

In article <Bv40JH.H7B@cs.psu.edu> antunes@astro.psu.edu (Sandy Antunes)
   writes:

 =}since one thing I prefer about Japan is that you don't get accosted as 
 =}soon as you enter a store! I have found in most American stores, they bother
 =}you before you have a chance to look around for yourself, then if you don't 
 =}respond immediatly it is often hard to get them to help later.
 =}  Whereas in Japan, usually they greet you heartily as you enter and
 =}then patiently wait until you are ready for help.  At which point, I've
 =}not yet had a problem finding a salesperson to help.

   I like the Japanese form better also.  But it does have it's downside.
When you finally do ask for help the next step is usually to be led to the
cashier.  This makes it hard to shop when you have several items to buy and
need to consult on each one.  In some shops the sales help don't even wait
for you.  They take your purchase, say "this way to the register", and take
off like a shot.  The smaller independent shops don't seem to do this
though...

   But recently, more department stores are getting into the "hassle game"
to push for sales.  Especially in the expensive clothing shops.  I wonder
if this is due to the recession?

   And I find the salesstaff to be as hard to find in Japan as in the US.
Even though the floor space is much smaller in Japan, one sometimes has
to go quite a ways to find one.  And one runs into the same problem of
finding sales staff deep in "personal" conversations (and all the other
bothersome things that one finds in the US too).

 =}  So I see the "don't go up to a customer" more pleasant than the "buy or
 =}leave me shop, please" attitude of many US stores.

   Generalizing the US sales format to "buy or leave" is incorrect.  US
shops like browsers just as much as Japanese shops.  The only difference
is that in a large US shop you have to tell the salesperson that you need
time to look around a bit first (a needless hassle).

 =}  Interesting that your visitor found it different... I wonder how much
 =}of these impressions (her and mine) are due to novelty value and cultural
 =}surprise...

   And how much of it was due to her knowing the down side of the Japanese
side and not yet experiencing the down side of th US yet?  This sounds more
reasonable to me...
From: sweeneyj@ocf.berkeley.edu (John Sweeney)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Zegen Movie Available?
Date: 28 Sep 1992 23:19:22 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
	In 1987, Imamura Shohei directed a film entitled "Zegen," which
	is about a real-life pimp who followed the Imperial Army around
	East and Southeast Asia between 1900 and 1945.  I have tried to 
	find a video version of this film in the San Francisco area to
	no avail.  Can anyone help me locate the video of this film?
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