HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: joleary@ESTERC (John O'Leary)
Subject: Re: BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS
Reply-To: JOLEARY@ESTWM0.DNET.ESTEC.ESA.NL
Organization: European Space Agency (ESTEC)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 09:53:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.041032.16895@muddcs.claremont.edu>, ileicht@jarthur.claremont.edu (Spiff) writes:
>In article <1992Sep28.165316.9181@ctp.com> ebail@ctp.com (Erik Bailey) writes:
>>In article <207@mindlink.bc.ca> Marc_North@mindlink.bc.ca (Marc North) writes:
>>>
>>>LSD -- My Problem Child
>
>check out world.std.com Its not in the /pub directory.. I forgot which it is
>but you should be able to figure out. It has LSD my problem child online.
>
>I also noticed someone asked Lamont to type in the works of shakespearre.. :)
>Well its already been done... so maybe we could have him type in the Encylopedia
>Britanica instead.. :)

Encyclopaedia Britanica is already available on CD-ROM.

"My Problem Child" however, is full of typos.  I tried to correct and clean up
a copy for myself, but some of the medical and chemical terms that may be
spelled incorrectly are not in any dictionary that I have.
Any volunteers to upload an edited Postscript version of the file?
--
John O'Leary,  ESA / ESTEC / WMS  (ERS-1 Project)
Internet:  JOLEARY@ESTWM0.DNET.ESTEC.ESA.NL
Bitnet:  JOLEARY@ESTEC   DECnet:  ESTWM0::JOLEARY
From: 10764860@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (PAUL WALSH)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Ephedrine in Australia
Date: 5 Oct 92 03:29:02 GMT
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University

Is Ephedrine available OTC is Australia?
If so what do I ask for?

Thanks...Paul!
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From:  (Mos Eisley)
Subject: Re: need info on plant growth
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: Yale University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:34:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.202306.745@dragon.acadiau.ca>,
901371d@dragon.acadiau.ca (@aucs.acadiau.ca) wrote:
> 
> I was wondering if anyone knows anything on diseases that can
> harm marajuana plants.
>  The only noticeable symtom is that the leaves in the middle and
> top of the plant are turning white.
>  I repeat,white,as in snow.They are not yellowing.
>  I suspect that it is some type of mite.
> Oh,and the plant is being grown indoors if that's of any help.
> Thanz for the help in advanec,and I would really perfer mail because
> I've been very busy with school lately.

Can't mail from here and I wish I knew why. It doesn't sound like a
disease, nor a mite. Sounds like the commonplace problem of Iron (Fe)
deficiency. 

Two possible solutions:
1) add Fe-containing fertilizer
2) or the acid/alkalinity of the soil may be imbalanced. adjust the pH to
ideal conditions for the plant.

Don't ask me what to adjust it to. I don't have the foggiest idea what's
ideal for those plants.

--
Mos Eisley
From: gaspar@inf.ethz.ch (gaspo)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Volume Transmission in the Brain
Date: 1 Oct 92 09:16:29 GMT
Organization: Twilight-Zone-Algorithms-Incorporated

In article <2536@ceylon.gte.com> RR04@bunny.gte.com (Rob Robertson) writes:
>Organization: GTE Laboratories
>
>not taste it. You get the point. It has been reported by many people that, 
>when under the influence of LSD, sounds can be percieved as color, smells 
>can generate images, and other stimuli can create seemingly unrelated 
>responses. If LSD has the ability (supposedly) of 'crossing the wires' of 

Basically, the reason you "see" purple has more to do with the _word_
purple than the actual light reflection properties.  As children, we are
tought to use _words_ to categorize certain inputs.  "purple" is a
characteristic that many objects share.  You _can_ "smell" purple, but
you have just been tought that "purple" is a category that does not
include other senses besides the visual.

The question really is: so when you're tripping, and the music comes out
of the speakers in waves of color and difractions, are we seeing thingsx
as they really are? and when we are not tripping, and we don't see
anything, is this just because we have been taught to disasociate input
on one sense from input on another?

Again, this is just ramblings, but I'm partial to the idea that all our
schooling and "education" has so severely removed us from reality, that
we can't really perceive reality as it _really_ is anymore.  I must say
that the origins of this theory was: the look on a friends face who was
at the time zipping, which so closely resembled the look of wonder on a
very young childs face.  Did we loose our sense of reality as we grew
up?

--gaspo.

BTW, I got loads of shit like this, but e-mail me, cuz we both know its shit.


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From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B))
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: The 'Why use drugs?' Flame bait
Date: 3 Oct 1992 00:07:08 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
Distribution: national
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Keywords: bait, flame, drugs

In article <mtymp06.718061781@staff.tc.umn.edu> mtymp06@staff.tc.umn.edu (Ted Vessenes) writes:
>Ok, to start, bonus points to whoever first identified this as flame bait.

Great!  Can I get my cookie?  :)

>flame me more.  Now WHY on Earth would I want THAT?
>
>Well...
>
>I am doing an editorial advocating legalization of drugs.  And I figured that
>I would get more responses from a flame than from a survery.  Here is why:
>In a flame, people respond because they want to prove to you that they are
>right and you are wrong.  They commonly will lay large pieces of information
>in yoru hands to use, which is not usually the case with a survey.  Also,
>since they want to prove that they are right, they will be more motivated to
>respond.  And the insults in the flame only compound this motivation.  In
>other words, I made this a flame so that I could do an unoffical survey that
>would attract many more people than a real survey.

	While I applaud your inventiveness,  I certainly wouldn't have done
it.  Even in a network as anonymous as USENET,  credibility is still a major
factor.  You saved yourself in my mind by admitting it...

	Also, I HOPE TO GOD you won't be using our names in your editorial/
survey.  While I would love to go on national TV and say some very anti-WOD
things (in fact, last week it could have been _very_ easy for this to be a
reality), it truely is a war, and I don't want to jeopardize my future and
present well-being because of it.

	Yes, the government does watch USENET.  But fortunately they haven't
used it as a base for breaking into houses and conducting random searches,
like they could (I'VE GOT NOTHING, BIG BROTHER!).  Let's not draw attention
to the fact that frank discussions on the legalizations of drugs aren't
frowned upon here.

	Brian

Xref: sparky alt.drugs:16524 alt.folklore.urban:24716
From: jcollier@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (John Donald Collier)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Ethereal high.....
Date: 2 Oct 92 11:25:33 GMT
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: University of Melbourne, Australia

In <1992Sep30.173708.9795@news.columbia.edu> slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth L. Blumberg) writes:

}I always thought the "recreational"/hazardous effects were caused by solvent
}molecules binding to hemoglobin and causing hypoxia in the brain. (I could
}obviously be very, very wrong here.)  This explains the headaches, etc., and
}explains why one gets the same symptoms no matter what the substance is (hair
}spray, rubber cement, glue, etc.).  The literature on drug abuse I was forced
}to read as a child gave this as the explanation, if I recall aright.

Well, I never had headaches after using ether, and I sure did after
using alcohol. What you say may be true of some solvents, but 
not of any I ever used except ethanol.
-- 
John Collier 			Email: jcollier@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
HPS -- U. of Melbourne		  	Fax:   61+3 344 7959
Parkville, Victoria, AUSTRALIA 3052
From: johnf@cislabs.pitt.edu (Jack Faley)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Safrole
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:20:03 GMT
Organization: Sb


  Has anyone tried to extract safrole from Sassafrass roots?  What kind of
yield should be expected?
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 07:36:00 GMT
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <BvK215.A2C@news.cso.uiuc.edu> berger@atropa (Mike Berger) writes:
>>for huge lengths of time over many days, it causes vitamin B12
>>deficiency which can result in pernicious anaemia (which can lead to
>>permanent nerve damage), but beware if you have low B12 intake (ie
>>vegans). It kills fast developing cells (ie fetus) so can cure cancer
>*----
>Please do.  I have a collection of journal articles on nitrous oxide,
>and none of them mention these problems.

I don't know about curing cancer (not!) but low level chronic exposure
to N2O is not a Good Thing.  The most recent New England Journal of Medicine
has a study of lower fertility in dental assistants due to the effects of
nitrous oxide exposure.  Dental offices are unequipped with N2O "scavenging"
systems, and the operating arena (the open mouth) doesn't lend itself easily
to this.  The gas oxidizes B12 stores and a few other enzymes like methionine
synthase, both of which are essential intermediates in methylation reactions
such as occur during DNA synthesis during cell division.

The effects of B12 deficiency were first noted as megaloblastic anemia when
the gas was administered in subanesthetic doses as an analgesic over the
period of several days.  Acute exposure to an individual patient under
anesthesia probably isn't a big deal, but a lot of work has gone in to
developing systems so that operating room workers who are there every day
are not exposed to even low levels of the gas for the aforementioned reasons.
There is every reason to think that regular recreational use isn't such
a great idea.

-- 
Steve Dyer
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From: ap.5628@cupid.sai.com (Anonymous)
Subject: [anonymous] EPHEDRINE
Originator: lamontg@hardy.u.washington.edu
Keywords: anonymous
Reply-To: ap.5628@cupid.sai.com
Organization: Somewhere
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 04:00:12 GMT


In reply to the individual who was enquiring whether ephedrine is available
OTC , the answer is no. The bottles of ephedrine in Australia contan 100
tablets with a dosage of 60mg each.I would suggest you send an overseas mail
order to the USA and get them sent to you by air mail.Ephedrine was legal
in 1988 in Aust but was only available in 30mg tablets.

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From: jjf@cats.ucsc.edu (Jeffrey John Furman)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Stems or heads
Date: 5 Oct 1992 19:48:56 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


A friend and I are having an argument and I was wondering if anyone
out there could give us any help (references please)

What part of the mushroom contains more psilocybin, the heads of the
stems? 

thanks alot
JJ

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Subject: Re: Marinol
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:32:07 GMT

jdresser@altair88.UUCP (Jay Dresser) writes:

>I have a friend who is at risk of being drug tested.  I wonder if someone
>out there knows an answer to his question.  Can the GC (Gas Chromatograph)
>test distinguish the difference between marijuana and the prescription drug
>Marinol?  I.e.  if you were taking both, would they be able to tell that
>their positive reaction to MJ was not the Marinol, but the real thing?  Any
>info appreciated, thanks.

	If he has a legitimate and legal reason that he has to take 
marinol, and he has all the documentation that he is doing so, then 
I don't think there is any reason to worry about marijuana in the tests.  

	He will test positive for marijuana, and he will claim that it
is marinol.  As far as I know, there is no way to discriminate between
them in a test.

Jim Del Vecchio
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Subject: Re: LSD recipies
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:48:50 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <cemG2hW00WB69TaG9Y@andrew.cmu.edu> Seth Malcolm Redmore <sr2s+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Actualy Howard, I think you have the saying backwards...
>"A week in the lab will save you 5 min. in the Library..."

    Actually, I just heard it this way for the first time a week or so ago.
I like it!

-- 
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     Howard Black                             cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu
     Department of Chemistry                  Eastern Illinois Univ. 
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu (Eli Brandt)
Subject: Re: LSD recipies
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 07:53:24 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.112437.3210@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au> u8951608@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:
>You mean diethylamine. It is not watched, and is a common chemical
>used for a wide range of purposes.

Do you mean in Australia?  It's on the DEA watched list from
_Psychedelic_Chemistry_, though I don't know that list's accuracy.
It also lists hydrogen, lactose, and hexane...  

>Jeremy
>jeremy@rsc3.anu.edu.au

   Eli   ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ap.5433@cupid.sai.com (Anonymous)
Subject: [anonymous] Seretonin Precursors
Originator: lamontg@hardy.u.washington.edu
Keywords: anonymous
Reply-To: ap.5433@cupid.sai.com
Organization: Somewhere
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 04:10:21 GMT


     Now that L-Tryptophan is no longer available commercially, are there any
other seretonin precursors available to the general public?  If yes, then
where can I get them from, what are the required doses, and what others
supplements do I need to take in order for the reaction to take place.

                               thanks a lot!

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From: u8951608@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Smoking ephedrine?
Date: 30 Sep 92 09:46:52 GMT
Organization: University of New South Wales

In article <kaz.717797783@vincent1.iastate.edu>, kaz@iastate.edu (Jimmy Buffet) writes:
> I have these spiffy little 25 mg ephedrine tablets, and was wondering if 
> crushing them and smoking them would be effective and safe.  Thanks!

Extracting and converting it to a free-base, vaporising and inhaling 
could be quite interesting. Anyone tried it?

Jeremy
jeremy@rsc3.anu.edu.au
--
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- Anon.
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Saturday, 3 Oct 1992 20:59:34 EDT
From: T. Peter Leone <IO20823@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: LSD FlashBacks?
 <1992Oct1.201137.27443@news.cs.indiana.edu>

 Could you elaborate on the physiology of LSD please
and what are the long term effects of LSD, and are they positive or negative
because I think that I feel the effects of having used LSD, I think that I have
 become a lot more paranoid since using it and I just wanted to know your opini
on.  I also find that some people who use LSd do very well in school, and other
s don't seem to be able to function in our society.  Why is this?

Peace,
T. Peter Leone
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:16428 alt.folklore.urban:24511
From: russ@bbxrbk (Russ Kepler)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Ethereal high.....
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:08:24 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <1992Sep29.183748.25712@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
>	However, all is not lost for solvent affectionado:  In
>Guatamala it is not an unheard of arrangement for the future-impared to 
>work for no pay but glue, and a bag to sniff it out of.
>
>	Conditions are rumored to be improving, though, and there is
>even talk of a minimum wage law in the near future.  One tube per day, 
>I believe it was.

A truly tacky joke.  You should be ashamed.

-- Russ "couldn't resist" Kepler

-- 
Russ Kepler, posting from home
Will hack unix for food 		(.sig stolen from dt - sorry, dt)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Subject: Re: LSD recipies
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 16:00:47 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <1992Sep25.112437.3210@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au> u8951608@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:
>
>You mean diethylamine. It is not watched, and is a common chemical
>used for a wide range of purposes.
>
    How do you know it isn't?  I don't know that it is, but I know that I
don't know (to coin a phrase).  I am especially curious since you are not
in the USA.


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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 07:43:58 GMT
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <BvK279.A5s@news.cso.uiuc.edu> berger@atropa (Mike Berger) writes:
>That's a less than scientific description.  Nitrous oxide does NOT
>"react" with your body in any normal sense of the word.

Acting as an oxidant doesn't count?  I'm sure that's a small part of the total
amount inhaled, however.

> In fact,
>you don't even metabolize it.  You exhale nitrous oxide (mixed
>with carbon dioxide from your normal respiration).  That's why
>you can "rebreathe" the gas a few times.  You, you haven't defined
>the "period of time" you're talking about, but if its the 3 or 4
>months you mentioned, you have some serious misconceptions about
>nitrous oxide.

Well, it would not at all surprise me that under the right conditions
you might find the phenomenon of tolerance, addiction and a withdrawal
syndrome to the gas.  Not that that's operative here.  Ether was a popular
drug of abuse with all these characteristics in the 19th c.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: gdm7238@summa.tamu.edu (MCBRIDE, GARY DEAN)
Subject: Re: Why use drugs anyway?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 03:41:00 GMT

In article <BvHwos.I12@casper.cs.uct.ac.za>, ibarrett@casper.cs.uct.ac.za (I G Barrett) writes...
]Living is generally fairly dangerous - stupidity can get you killed much more
]quickly, but most people are reasonably responsible in their activities.  
]You do what you enjoy, have an 'exciting' life and one day you die.  WRT
]drugs, some people enjoy a wide variety of drugs while others get nothing
]from them.  I should think that crossing the road has more chance of
]killing you off early than taking recreational drugs in a responsible way.
] 
]Swan Wulfgur			I turned silences and nights into words.
]				What was unutterable, I wrote down.
]brrian04@uctvax.uct.ac.za	I made the whirling world stand still.
]ibarrett@casper.cs.uct.ac.za		- Arthur Rimbaud
]						A Season in Hell
] 
]				Swans fly silently to the burning sky.
] 
] 
]	Alcohol is a Drug	Caffeine is a Drug 	Nicotine is a Drug
] 
]				Are you Anti-Drugs?

Personally, I do not use drugs because of their thrill value.  I am very
careful in that my drug use must :

	a) Not conflict with my scholastic life - I am a college student
		trying to keep a 3.0 and keep my scholarship.
	b) Must not hurt the ones I love.
	c) Must not drain all my money.
	d) Must be over verifiable quality and non-dangerous - ie. LSD on
		blotter from a known source.
	e) Must not put me in danger of WOD backlash.

I do not see LSD as a thrill ride, I see it as a method of self-exploration.
I do everything in my power to make it as non-dangerous as possible.

Gary McBride
From: 10563903@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (DUNCAN HEARD)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Marinol
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:53:28 GMT
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University

In article <1992Oct5.153207.18539@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:

>>I have a friend who is at risk of being drug tested.  I wonder if someone
>>out there knows an answer to his question.  Can the GC (Gas Chromatograph)
>>test distinguish the difference between marijuana and the prescription drug
>>Marinol?  I.e.  if you were taking both, would they be able to tell that
>>their positive reaction to MJ was not the Marinol, but the real thing?  Any
>>info appreciated, thanks.
>
>	If he has a legitimate and legal reason that he has to take 
>marinol, and he has all the documentation that he is doing so, then 
>I don't think there is any reason to worry about marijuana in the tests.  
[......]
>
>Jim Del Vecchio

What are the legitimate/legal uses of Marinol?  What is the stuff?
....\


dbh
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu (Eli Brandt)
Subject: Re: [anonymous] watched chemicals
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 01:18:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.201020.24051@u.washington.edu> ap.5473@cupid.sai.com writes:
>SUBSTANCES NOT CONTROLLED BY THE DEA
>        These items are available without DEA license.  Telephone and
>telegraph orders are accepted.  There is no administrative fee for 
...
>5-Methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine

My goodness.  I believe I shall acquire this company's catalog.

   Eli   ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu
From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: [anonymous] LD50's
Keywords: anonymous
Date: 27 Sep 92 14:09:02 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <1992Sep27.041029.1560@u.washington.edu> ap.5433@cupid.sai.com writes:
>
>      I'm looking to put together a list of the LD50's of various legal and
>illegal drugs which are available today.  I have been able to get some out
>of the FAQ's but would like to contrast these figures to those of commonly
>used prescription drugs such as Xanax, Codiene, Phenobarbital, Valium, etc.
>Any information would be greatly appreciated.

    All of these data can be found in the Merck Index.

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From: cspot@cats.ucsc.edu (Christopher Edward Hilker)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Quayle's drug connection (news story)
Date: 6 Oct 1992 03:41:36 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


[Concerning Brett Kimberlin's connection with Quayle]

There is an excellent article on this subject in this week's
issue of The New Yorker.

C.

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