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From: rfisel@informix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Musical OCR ???
Date: 29 Jul 92 23:46:15 GMT
Reply-To: rfisel@informix.com
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <22912@oasys.dt.navy.mil> gotimer@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Gene Gotimer)  
writes:
> >In article <7709@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> linley@ada.seas.ucla.edu (Bruce Linley)  
> >writes:
> >> Does anyone know if there exists an OCR program that can read sheet music
> >> and save it in a format readable by Finale???
> 
> 
> rfisel@informix.com wrote:
> >--I don't think there is one, but there's not much reason there couldn't be  
> >(provided you're reading printed music, not handwritten). Finale et. al. use  
> >music fonts for notes, repeat signs, etc. OCR would have to be enlightened  
that  
> 
> You may want to try OmniPage Pro.  It has an excellent training feature
> for teaching the OCR software what a particular symbol means.  It
> should be able to learn to read sheet music.
> 
> 
> -- 
> ****************************************************************
> **     Gene Gotimer              gotimer@oasys.dt.navy.mil    **
> ****************************************************************

--
Rick Fisel 
opinionated employee of opinionless
Informix Software
I prefer replies by email.
From: wongj@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (Jeffery G. Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: COBOL compiler
Date: 28 Jul 92 07:16:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of California, Davis

Is there a real good COBOL compiler available on the Macintosh?  We
have developers who need such a thing.  Thanks a lot.  Please reply
via e-mail...thanks again.


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From: jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Top Ten Software Rip-offs, 1992-07-13
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:39:09 GMT
Reply-To: jsp@pls.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) writes:

} 2 Salient       AutoDoubler (crippleware)      65.00  79.95  123.18  54.07

}"Crippleware" is software which is crippled so as to force the user to pay
}more money.  Some software companies deliberately cripple their software so
}that it will only run on US versions of the Mac System, thus forcing Mac
}users in other countries to run expensive local versions.  Note that this can
}also be extremely inconvenient for US Mac users if they ever travel abroad.

I'm just curious, in what way is AutoDouble crippled to only run on US
Macs?

--James Preston
From: hcheng@Auspex.COM (Howard Cheng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Fill-in-the-blanks documents in Pagemaker 4.0?
Keywords: PageMaker
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:08:37 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

In article <12333@ecs.soton.ac.uk> lac@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Les Carr) writes:
>I've recently had to produce a little training manual
>where the students have to fill in missing words. To
>show where the missing words are, the actual text is replaced
>by a ruled line---you've all seen the kind of thing.
>
>I've been trying to work out the best way to do this in PageMaker
>(or anything, really!) since to paste in actual lines in the text

The easiest thing to do would be to set up tabs with leaders. Leaders are
characters that appear before the tab starting from the place where you hit
the tab key.

In PageMaker, when you bring up the tabs/indents box (cmd-I), there's a box
with a menu that says "Leader." To utilize this, highlight the tab that you
want to have a leader, then pull down the menu from the "Leader" box and you
can pick the underline there. Now whenever you tab over to that particular
tab stop, the intervening spaces will be filled with underlines.

You can use any character you want as a leader, actually. If you need more
help, check your PageMaker help section.

Hope that solves the problem!

h.
From: hulse@el2.phy.nrc.ca (John Hulse)
Subject: MathWriter - current version and contact
Organization: National Research Council, Ottawa, Canada
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:44:36 GMT

I have an old copy of MathWriter running on a Macintosh, and I would
like to find out:

1) What is the current version (I have 1.4)

2) How can I contact the company: Cooke Publications. I have only
an old 1-800 number which does not work from here.

Thanks in advance for any help.

--
John Hulse			hulse@el2.phy.nrc.ca
NRC - IMS			hulse@nrcphy1.phy.nrc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: henning@banana.ithaca.ny.us (Henning Pape-Santos)
Subject: Re: MS-Word 5.0 & Text Files
Organization: The Twisted Banana BBS, Ithaca NY (US)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 02:02:18 GMT

mfterman@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Mutant for Hire) writes:

> Okay, I'm using Word 5.0a and there's a tedious feature that I'd love
> to disable. Whenever I'm opening a text file, it asks me if I want to
> open it as text or as text with layout. Since I always want to open it
> as the former, I'd love to be able to avoid having to deal with this
> dialogue box each time I open a text file.
> 
Throw out the "Text with Layout" file in the "Word Commands" 
folder (or just move it out of that folder).
 
> Additionally, is there ever going to be a fix to the problem of
> editing a file, then closing but not saving the changes, and then
> having that file being locked by MS-Word until the program is quit?
> That's a problem I'd love seen fixed.

Who wouldn't? I wonder if there's hope for 6.0, which supposedly
will be a rewrite from the ground up. . . .

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From: crk5@vms.cis.pitt.edu (Chris Kunselman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Desktop Message Display?
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:06:24 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Hi,

Does anybody know of a good way I can display a daily message or permanent
message to users on the desktop?  I want to display a message box about
2x4" that would notify users of certain system configurations.  I thought
of using some sort of startup screen display, but I want the message to be
displayed on the desktop at all times if possible.  

Is there such a program or init? And where can it be found?

Thank you,
Chris Kunselman
University of Pittsburgh
crk5@vms.cis.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: alan@highlite.uucp (Alan McConnell)
Subject: PICT file format
Keywords: PICT, format
Organization: Gotham Communications Research
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.apps
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:15:26 GMT

I apologize if this is not the proper place to post; I have
tried comp.graphics with v little result.  My question: does
anyone have, or know where I can obtain, documentation for
writing a PICT file.  I'm not having much luck with Inside
Macintosh V pp80 ff.  Any help much appreciated
Alan McConnell

-- 
Alan McConnell             "What wondrous life is this I lead!
Pixel Analysis              Ripe apples drop about my head . ."
From: dl1@ukc.ac.uk (Duncan Langford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: PixelPaint Pro Problem
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:55:00 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

I'm hitting an occasional problem with PixelPaint Pro, and would much
appreciate hearing if anyone else has met it.

When trying to work on a large-ish image (say, 2 meg or so) I get a
error message saying something like 'insufficient room on disk'. But there's
tons of room - 20 or 30 meg.  PPP is running in a 9 meg partition,
so I've ruled out memory problems... this doesn't always happen, just
often enuf to be a nuisance!

Any ideas?

- duncan
From: Ladd.Morse@p804.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ladd Morse)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Why aren't MacDraw Pro graphics always WYSIWYG?
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:54:06 -0500

Re: getting MacDraw Pro graphics into Word 5
 
The recent release of word 5 solves your problem completely.
 
Word 5 now accepts EPS files.  Simply "SAVE AS" your Draw Pro graphic as an EPS
and import it into Word 5. Your drawing will appear perfectly.
 
And I agree, the arrowhead deal on Draw Pro irks me, too.  
 
Ladd
 
 
  

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: SPA piracy raid: Call for Solutions
From: stanger@otago.ac.nz (Nigel Stanger)
Date: 31 Jul 92 21:00:22 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

Robert.H.Gross@dartmouth.edu (Robert H. Gross) writes about crackers:
> As far as cracking the time checking, you are right - there will always
> be someone who will do it. These folks are few and far between,
> however, and make up a very small minority of the user population.

That's just it though -- how small a percentage of the user
population are crackers is irrelevant. It only takes one, and
bingo! cracked copies start appearing everywhere like wildfire
(he gives it to 2 friends, and they give it to 2 friends, and so
on, and so on, and so on...).

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nigel Stanger,                  Internet: stanger@otago.ac.nz
University of Otago,            Phone: +64 3 479-8179
Dunedin, NEW ZEALAND.           Fax:   +64 3 479-8311
"Modem: A modulator is a modulator emulator ..." -- a student
From: mzajac@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Michael Stephen Zajac)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: ThoughtPattern at $59 ?
Keywords: ThoughtPattern
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:16:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: ccu.1992Jul28.171650.19596
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

A while ago someone posted that they were aware of a retailer selling 
a ThoughtPattern software bundle for $59.

Anyone have a telephone number?

Michael Zajac (Dept of Landscape Architecture)
University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, MB R3T 2N2
phone:  (204) 474 6449
From: galanter@nyu.edu (Philip Galanter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: SPA piracy raid at Oregon?
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:01:21 GMT
Reply-To: galanter@nyu.edu (Philip Galanter)
Organization: New York University

In article <1992Jul19.140907.29328@newstand.syr.edu>  
ksalper@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Ken Alper) writes:
|  No, Jer, if someone stole my $500 car I actually WOULD be pissed and I  
WOULD
|  report it to the police...but if they stole a COPY OF MY CAR, I  
wouldn't care.
|
|  Get it?
|
|  I didn't think so.
|
|  Ken

If you wrote a book and I printed 1000 copies of equal quality and gave  
them away in front of the bookstore selling your published version would  
you be pissed?

Phil

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Research Associate      251 Mercer             fax:      212-995-4120
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: kettler@pierre.mit.edu (KETTLER, THOMAS R.)
Subject: Re: Quick Microsoft bash! ;-) (Word not closing files properly)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: MIT Lab for Nuclear Science
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:32:00 GMT

In article <3922@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, macman+@pitt.edu (Dennis H Lippert)         writes...
> 
>I wholeheartedly agree that it's a nice feature and all, but:
>-I don't think it was MicroSoft's responsibility to do it
>-I don't think MS did it the right way (there's too many things on MS Word's
> menus already... and "Short Menus" sucks (and besides... who's idea was it
> to modify dialog boxes with full/short menus?))
>-I think that such a feature should be included as a part of the system
> software... that way it'd be *in all applications*, *and* it would be
> the same in all apps.
>-A second option is to have the feature as an INIT/extension... that way
> those who need it have, and those who don't, don't. (Of course, I think
> the INIT included with Norton Utils (1.0 at least) does the job admirably.
> I can't say how ofter I've added folders on the fly, etc. with this INIT
> (whose name escapes me right now).
> 
The INIT that Dennis is referring to in Norton Utilities is Directory 
Assistance. The version 1.0 did have a conflict with AutoDoubler, however. I 
don't know about the one with Norton 2.0. However, although I use it, most 
people prefer SuperBoomerang with Now Utilities 3.0.x.

					Sincerely yours,

					Thomas R. Kettler "Mac Nut"
From: robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: SPA piracy raid at Oregon?
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:55:32 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

I know several people who have bought used pc's (not necessarily DOS pc's) from  
a computer company which is a member of the SPA. In some cases, the pc's  
hard-drives were loaded with commercial software, but no manuals nor  
registration were transferred as part of the deal.

In addition, I have heard fairly reliably that this same company keeps a copy  
of many commercial applications available on a server, whence they are commonly  
downloaded to many machines for individual use. (No, I will not give specifics  
about company name, etc, so take this as speculation.)

Is there some agreement between SPA members that they exempt themselves from  
the provisions of the copyright laws they are enforcing on the rest of the user  
community?

DISCLAIMER: my opinions only, not those of my employer or anyone else.

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| Email : robertw@informix.com |       Graphic designer        |
| Voice : 415-926-6754         |    <imagine your ad here>     |
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From: martinn@mksol.dseg.ti.com (niels r martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Request:  Mac Genealogy Program
Keywords: Genealogy  help request
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:12:59 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc

In article <1992Jul28.015533.21982@u.washington.edu> jaesyn@carson.u.washington.edu (Jason Smith) writes:
>
>	Hi there, I'm looking for a genealogy tracking program for the Mac,
>and haven't been able to find a PD/SW version on any of the common archives.
>I considered writing a simple HyperCard stack, but balked at how to take care
>of step-relationships and re-marriages.  Would Excel 3.0 be adaptable for this?
>I've never tried a database in it, and it would have to be able to print out
>family trees in graphical format.  Does such a beast exist, or will I have to
>pay for a commercial package?
>
>Jason Smith

I have seen a Hypercard stack that was PD/SW and did some of the type of things that you are interested in, but I don't recall what it was called or where I sawit.  I do remember, though that it was fairly limited.  If you really want to   get ahold of a top-of-the line program, the LDS (Mormon) church puts out PAF
(Personal Ancestral File) in both Mac and PC versions (with import/export/trans-lation capabilities).  I am not sure on the cost, but I do remember it is reasonable.  I have been using it for a while and have found it to be quite compre-   hensive.  If you would like any more information, feel free to send me email

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My opinions don't represent		|  10,000+ on-time deliveries!
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From: marcus@sun.pcl.ac.uk (Marcus Harvey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Apple-menu/Backup SW/Docker pgm
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:34:51 GMT
Organization: Polytechnic of Central London

In article <1992Jul24.180902.20293@ultb.isc.rit.edu> mnc0678@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.N. Cannava ) writes:
>SUMMARY:  Marc's quest for system-assistance programs
>
>A few days ago, I posted a request for three types of programs:
>
>	1. Programs to clean up the Apple menu,
>	2. Programs to place a file/application "docking bar"
>	   on the screen,
>	3. Backup programs & accompanying hardware
>
>I received many excellent suggestions, and I'd just like to thank
>everyone who responded -- your help is appreciated!! 
>
>Okay. Here's the results, broken down into the three categories listed
>above.
>
>
>1. Programs to clean up the Apple menu
>
>Shareware:	BeHierarchic, v1.0.5. At sumex-aim.
>			Excellent reviews. Grab it.
>
BeHierarchic v1.05 crashes Adobe Illustrator big time! An alternative is
MenuChoice also at sumex-aim. It's Illustator friendly but I have been having
a lot of unspecific crashes recently.

Marcus Harvey, Polytechnic of Central London IRS
marcus@uk.ac.pcl.sun - JANET  marcus%sun.pcl.ac.uk@ukacrl - BITNET/EARN

                                                          ...Bubble Up!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: ewing-martin@CS.YALE.EDU (Martin Ewing)
Subject: MacX Window Types?
Reply-To: ewing-martin@yale.edu
Organization: Yale Univ. Science & Engineering Comp. Facility
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:37:36 GMT


Is this a good place to grouse/inquire about MacX features?

I am using MacX 1.1.7 on a IIci w/portrait monitor.  (Under A/UX 3.0,
but I don't think that matters.)  I primarily connect to a Sun
Sparc 2 running SunOS 4.1.1.

I usually put up a number of small information windows (xload, xclock,
etc.) plus several big windows (xterm, xmh).  All are rootless.  The 
problem is that I want the small windows to be "plain" or "shadowed",
while the others should be "growable".  How can I make this happen
automatically?

There is an "client specified" window type.  How can this be invoked
from standard canned X applications?

As a suggestion for MacX developers (if any are out there):  Provide
window-by-window customization of window types ala twm, etc., according
to some parameter resource.  E.g., specifiable in the "Edit Command"
dialog.  (And while you're at it, how about a "real" access control
mechanism like Xsun et al.?)

This is in the category of "cosmetic nuisance".  By and large, I am
very pleased with MacX.

I'd appreciate e-mail responses, for which I am grateful in advance!

Martin Ewing     Yale Univ. Science & Engineering Computing Facility
ewing@yale.edu
From: teplitz@optilink.UUCP (Ron Teplitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Why aren't MacDraw Pro graphics always WYSIWYG?
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:46:11 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

From article <1992Jul28.165523.14226@sunb10.cs.uiuc.edu>, by pjl@sparc5.cs.uiuc.edu (Paul Lucas):
> 
> 	I'm doing illustrations for a technical paper using MacDraw Pro
> 	1.5 then copying/pasting them into a Microsoft Word 5.0. 
> 	Things that look "lined-up" on screen in MacDraw Pro, even when
> 	zoomed-in, are slightly "off" when pasted into Word...  very
> 	annoying.  (This also happened with the 1.1 release of MacDraw
> 	Pro and Word 4...so it's not a new problem.)
> 
> 	One example is that, since MacDraw Pro _still_ doesn't allow
> 	arrow-heads on the ends of arcs (a long-standing gripe), I have
> 	to put my own arrowheads (really-short arrows) on the ends of my
> 	arcs.  It look fine in MacDraw Pro, but sometimes, the
> 	arrowheads no longer align when pasted into a Word document.
> 
> 	Anybody got any ideas?  Any Claris people reading?  (I've been
> 	meaning to call tech support.)
> 
> 		Software:	System 7 w/TrueType, MacDraw Pro 1.5,
> 				Microsoft Word 5.0
> 		Mac:		SE/30
> -- 
> 	- Paul J. Lucas				University of Illinois	
> 	  AT&T Bell Laboratories		at Urbana-Champaign
> 	  Naperville, IL			pjl@cs.uiuc.edu

You've bumped into one of Word's worst defects.  I have talked to  
Microsoft tech support on this subject; they try to talk around the
problem and make sure you're not doing anything really dumb.  The 
truth is that Word isn't capable of preserving the integrity of a
MacDraw drawing perfectly.  The only way we have found of preserving
absolute wysywig is roughly as follows: 
 
Group all objects in drawing
Expand to 4x area (2x width, 2x height) with shift/drag
Paste into SuperPaint (!) draw layer
Cut that and paste into SuperPaint paint layer
Cut that and paste back into MacDraw
Turn on Show Size and shrink with shift-drag from 72x72 to 288x288 (you may
  need to zoom in to get it exact)
NOW copy and paste into Word

Line weights change and fill patterns are messed up, otherwise this 
method works well.  The resultant image may print faster too, depending
on complexity of original.  If you don't want to have to deal with this
incredibly aggravating problem, you'll have to go to PageMaker or
FrameMaker or some other such application where graphics are handled
properly.

-- 
Ron Teplitz - Tech Writer/Cellist
UUCP:   uunet!optilink!teplitz	Internet: teplitz@optilink.com 
"Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so". D. Adams
From: bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu (Hari Seldon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Copyrights and piracy...
Date: 23 Jul 92 02:41:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: chaos.bill.711859302
Organization: University of Minnesota

In <14820@claris.com> mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:

>In article <1992Jul21.180343.4066@newstand.syr.edu>, ksalper@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Ken Alper) writes:
>> 
>> 
>>   I have  a slight feeling that I'm going to be flamed.
>> 
>>   Screw the rights of the performers. It's the age of information. Unless a 
>>   person is making money from or passing off another's work as his own, I don't
>>   think it's a problem. Hey, Matt Groening, my Mac says "Working is for Chumps."
>>   Do you and Nancy Cartwright give a shit?
>> 
>>   Didn't think so.

>What if he decides to market a disk full of sounds from The Simpsons and you
>have already copied those sounds to your disk, so you don't need to buy his
>disk?

>Sounds from Star Trek are on the market now.  That means a lost sale to
>people who have already copied those sounds from videotape or off the
>air.

>There is no difference between copying those sounds and copying executable
>software.  You're right; this is the age of information--however, that makes
>information a commodity to be bought and sold.  By taking it for free without
>the permission of the owner, you are robbing from him.

>You're also right that you're going to be flamed--rightfully so, IMO.

this is starting to remind me of an sf story.
takes place in the future where popular 'movie star type' copyright
their image, and one in particular sees someone who looks like
him; sue him and wins. in the end the poor sap has his life ruined
and had to have plastic surgery so he didn't look like him any longer.

just thought i'd drop this in as this thread looked like it might
cool off to soon :-)

bill pociengel
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bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu