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From:         Mitch Turitz <turitz@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Survey of E-conference Users: Summary Results
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X-cc:         "Mary E. Burk" <mburk@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu>, dkovacs@kentvm.kent.edu

Mary - you just responded to the Advance-L LIST, you did not send a
reply to the originator of the message, Diane Kovacs.  So I am
forwarding a copy of your response to her.
  -- Mitch





>
> Dear Diane;
>
> Hi, my name is Mary Burk and I work as a library assistant at San Francisco
>
> State University.  The reason I did not respond to your survey was because
>
> one was not sent to me.
>
> However, I did want to mention to you a flaw in your approach.  And not
>
> becuase I did not receive a survey letter.  It has to do with I think question
>
> 7. asking if you are a librarian with a master's degree, etc.  And then if
>
> not, go to question 14.
>
> Well, in case you didn't know, library staff in many public and school
>  librariesmake viable contributions to how, when and why things are done.  In
>  fact,
>
> I am disappointed that you address this response summary to an Advance Users
>
> Group, not geared towards librarians but towards a larger audience.  One that
>
> comprises people at all levels of production, implementation, etc.  Towards
>
> an audience that in libraries does not only consist of librarians.
>
> Although this is the first time I have seen such a survey, and I have only
>
> been using telecommunications for one year, I would have been much more
>
> interested in a survey that did not unecessarily limit it's audience.
>
> Especially a survey that could have had the capacity to produce a picture
>
> on such a relatively new informations source.
>
> With interest,
>
>
>                   Mary E. Burk
>       Voice:  (415) 338-7885  Fax: 338-6199
>             Internet:  mburk@sfsu.edu
>             "Just another damn clerk"
>
> --
>                   Mary E. Burk
>       Voice:  (415) 338-7885  Fax: 338-6199
>             Internet:  mburk@sfsu.edu
>             "Just another damn clerk"
>


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From:         Stephen Baker <sbaker@UMASSMED.UMMED.EDU>
Subject: Re: Medical Statistics Book

I have Mainland's _Elementary_Medical_Statistics_ 2nd Edition 1963, which
has a different organization than most textbooks:
 chapter title
I	Questions for use in planning investigations and in evaluating reports
II	Purpose and general method of investigation
III	The population and sampling
IV	Subdivision of population and samples
V	skeleton layouts for results
VI	Interpretation after an experiment
VII	Interpretation after a survey
VIII	sample sizes
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	an introduction to random processes
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XVI	Supplementary notes on techniques and further study

I also have Feinstein's _Clinical_Biostatistics_ which is a compilation
of articles he has published in Clinical Pharmacology and Therapeutics.  While
some are quite helpful, it isn't something for teaching biostat from. I recently
acquired _Medical_Uses_of_Statistics_ 2nd Ed., Bailar and Mosteller (eds.)
which is a compendium of articles, mostly from the New England Journal of M
Medicine, but some taken from other journals and books and a bunch written for
this book.  The 32 authors of the various chapters include many wellknown
statisticians.  The 23 chapters are organized into 5 sections:

I	Broad Topics and Analytic Techniques (chapters 1-3, pp.5-60)
II	Design (chapters 4-8, pp. 61-158)
III	Analysis (chapters 9-15, pp.159-312)
IV	Communicating Results (chapters 16-20, pp.313-392)
V	Reviews and Meta-Analyses (chapters 21-23, pp. 393-444)

I find the articles very lucid and readable. I will probably include parts
in my course in the future and could see developing a CEU course around it.



Stephen P. Baker                                phone:  (508) 856-2625
Lecturer in Biostatistics                               (508) 856-2440 fax
Department of Academic Computing                        (413) 253-3923 home
University of Massachusetts Medical School      e-mail: sbaker@umassmed.bitnet
55 Lake Avenue North                                    _. .____ __. _ __._
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Subject:      Cluster analysis

Doe anyone have a simple two variable cluster program to do geographic clusterin
   g?
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:34:00 EDT
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From:         PERRYLM@ALF.APPSTATE.EDU
Subject:      computers&concepts
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RE: COMPUTER DEMOS OF CONCEPTS

1) I was going to mention DATA DESK for these purposes but Velleman just beat me
to it.

2) There is a nice package UNDERSTANDING STATISTICS for IBM-PC which does
a beautiful job of exhibiting and illustrating statistical concepts.
These programs were written under the direction of Peter Holmes and Vic
Barnett at U. Sheffield, England. Perhaps Peter will send us a better
description of the capabilities.

3) We did a project here called SIM-PAC which produced a set of eight simulation
models. There is a nice one on estimation and others on the basic discrete
distributions plus a random walk. Outputs include a lot of graphical
representations.

Mike Perry
Department of Mathematical Sciences
Appalachian State University
Boone, NC  28608
PERRYLM@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU
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From:         "Peter A. Lachenbruch" <IARSPAL@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      COMPUTER ILLUSTRATED TEXTS

There seems to be some interest in this material, so the reference to the
"Computer Illustrated Texts" is to A. Bowman and D. Robinson. They have three
texts entitled "Introduction to Statistics" "Introduction to Regression and
Analysis of Variance" and "Introduction to Probability" - They are accompanied
by computer programs which illustrate the points, sometimes brilliantly. The
books are paperback and published by Adam Hilger, and/or IOP (which I think is
the Institute of Physics). They were originally written for the BBC computer in
 BASIC, but are now available in Turbo Pascal for the PC series. I'm sorry I
can't give you more, but checking through a statistical directory for the RSS
should turn up the proper addresses of Bowman and Robinson.

Tony Lachenbruch
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From:         "Peter A. Lachenbruch" <IARSPAL@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      computers and classrooms

There is also a very nice computer program (written in BASIC) which covers a
lot of elementary statistics. It's called COMPUTER ILLUSTRATED TEXTS and has a
number of modules: probability, anova and regression, statistics. It's a UK
product, originally written for the BBC computers. I'm sorry I don't have
more at my fingertips, but if there's interest and noone gives a fuller refer-
ence, I'll dig it up.

I also agree with Paul Velleman. Many micro statistics programs do just fine at
demos. I have used both SYSTAT and STATA in the classroom to generate samples,
plot them, get scatterplots, etc. The only problem is that you may go too fast
for some students. I find it helpful to insist that the students learn how to
use the programs for their homework, but not all students agree with this idea.
Tony
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From:         Allen Herzog <U50161@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Medical Statistics Book

         Many years ago a very fine medical statistics book was
authored by Donald Mainland "Elementary Medical Statistics:
The Principles of Quantitavie Medicine" (1952).  I do not know if
there was ever a later edition; nevertheless it is a model of
clarity for the non-statistician medical practitioner.

          Two other books worth examining are both quirky but
insightful about the indiosyncratic nature of medical statistics.
These are Alvan Feinstein's "Clinical Judgement" (1967).  He has
a later book as well which is more of a textbook, and Murphy's
"The Logic of Medicine".  It should be recognized that the
special nature of medical and clinical practice constrains in
ethical ways the range of statistical methods that are useable as
well as the logic of acceptable inference.  Many biostatistics
books devote little attention to epidemiological and demographic
statistics which is a matter of interest to those who are concerned
with large populations in contrast to the "micro-statistics"
(small sample) of clinical research. There are specialized procedures
of interest to medical statisticians which often do not fall into
the purview of general statistics texts.
                                     Allen Herzog
                                     u50161@uicvm
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From:         SCHWARZ@UOFMCC.BITNET
Subject:      Stat City

[Also posted to Stat-L network].

Howard Gitlow wrote a book in 1982 called Stat City where he constructed
a hypothetical population of households in Stat City. The population
consisted of about 1300 households.
In the appendix, he gave a listing of all the variables
for the households and a 'city' map. This would seem to be an
ideal teaching tool for sampling. Does anyone know if a machine
readable version is available. Are there any other similar
datasets available? The book does not appear to be in print in 1992.

Thanks.
Carl J. Schwarz    SCHWARZ @ CCM.UMANITOBA.CA
Department of Statistics
University of Manitoba    (204) 474-6275   fax: (204)-275-5011
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:48:00 PDT
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From:         "Peter A. Lachenbruch" <IARSPAL@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      SUDAAN

The package SUDAAN is distributed by RTI, the Research Triangle Institute. The
person to contact there is Babuhai Shah.
Tony
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From:         Mike M Harde <mikeh@WORLD.STD.COM>
Subject:      PCPLOT

Does anyone know of a program called PCPLOT, and who the publisher is?

Thanks.

Mike Harde
mikeh@world.com
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From:         Kirk Steinhorst <kirk@LAPLACE.MATHSTAT.UIDAHO.EDU>
Subject:      computer demos
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Well, in the northern hemisphere it is back to classes for many of us.  I did
not get to go to Boston, but I assume that many of you did and got all sorts
of good ideas for teaching statistics.

Question:  I know that there has been a heated discussion on this list about
stat packages for teaching intro stat.  I do not want to reopen that kettle of
fish, but I am teaching an algebra based intro and am looking for reasonably
priced software that can be used to DEMONSTRATE statistical ideas -- sampling
distributions, the central limit theorem, coverage of confidence intervals,
type I and II error rates, least squares, ...  The software discussed
previously was of the "stat package" variety that could be used in a class to
take some of the drudgery out of statistical computation.  I do not consider
MINITAB, MYSTAT,DATA DESK, EXECUSTAT, or your favorite candidate suitable to
use at the sophomore level to demonstrate statistical ideas.  Any
suggestions?


Kirk Steinhorst    kirk@laplace.mathstat.uidaho.edu
Math and Statistics, University of Idaho, Moscow, ID USA
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From:         Paul Velleman <paul_velleman@QMRELAY.MAIL.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: computer demos
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        Reply to:   RE>computer demos
Kirk Steinhorst asks about programs for demonstrating statistics concepts but
dismisses popular statistics programs. I think he should reconsider them.
Several of the best statistics programs for teaching can demonstrate the
concepts he mentions. Two at least (Minitab and Data Desk) offer explicit
demonstrations in their student documentation for the concepts he mentions
(sampling distributions, the central limit theorem, coverage of confidence
intervals, type I and II error rates, least squares) and for others. Students
can generate their own random samples and perform experiments to see the
central limit theorem working, or generate many confidence intervals for a
"known" mean and see whether they all cover the true value.
  The more advanced concepts (e.g., the assumptions for least squares, and what
happens if they are violated) require a program that computes least squares
regressions accurately. At that point you probably need a statistics package
anyway.
-- Paul Velleman

Claimer: I developed Data Desk and teach with it, so I am biased. I do,
however, use it to demonstrate all of these concepts and more as part of our
introductory class at Cornell.

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Subject:      Pre-Slugging

A few months back I posted some OMR (Scanning) questions to this listserv
as we were in the process of evaluating several different machines.  I received
some very helpful responses. We decided to go with the NCS Opscan 5 Model 20
and are very satisfied.

Next question:

Does anyone have any cobol based "pre-slugging" software that they are willing
to share?  I would be most appreciative for something that I could use as a
template and then customize it to our specific applications.

thanks in advance,

Doug Rydell                   (413) 597-2083
Programmer/Analyst            DRYDELL@WILLIAMA  (BITNET)
Williams College              DRYDELL@WILLIAMS.EDU  (INTERNET)
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Wayne Hauber <wjhauber@IASTATE.EDU> writes:
>We have a visiting Professor from Poland who is trying to mail to colleagues
>in European countries.  He insists he's used these addresses before but we
>can't find them with nslookup or in the whois database at nic.ddn.mil.
>
>        Examples:       osf.de, uwocsd.uwo.ca, zmit.ippt.gov.pl
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The host 'CORTON.INRIA.FR' is listed as a MX-hsot for 'OSF.FR'.
The hosts 'ZMIT1.IPPT.GOV.PL' (and ZMIT2 and ZMIT3) do exist.
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Date: 27 Aug 92 11:58:38 -0500

In article <9208261917.AA01012@underprize.think.com>,         Robert Krawitz <rlk@THINK.COM> writes:
>   Ask Yuri Muraviov of the International Information Technology Center,
>  Kiev   myn%myn.computerland.kiev.ua@ussr.eu.net  Don

Good advice, but also try C=UA.  According to news reports, there is no longer
any such place as SU.  :-)
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On Wed, 26 Aug 92 11:38:29 EDT you said:
>He gave me his User ID (XXXXXXXX.KIV, XXXXXXXX being the company he works
>for), gave his Organization as CUSTOMERS, and his Country (C) as USSR.  I've
>tried several ways of arranging this info into a valid Internet address
>(including changing the Country code to SU), but no luck.
>
>Could anyone tell me:
>
>Any help from you kind folks would be MUCH appreciated!
>
>--Larry Cunningham      PER_CUNNING%ODNVMS@MPS.OHIO-STATE.EDU
>                        PER_CUNNING@OSI.OHIO.GOV
  Ask Yuri Muraviov of the International Information Technology Center,
 Kiev   myn%myn.computerland.kiev.ua@ussr.eu.net  Don
>

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From: krol@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Ed Krol)
Subject: Re: Internet-Profs Connection?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:18:32 GMT

newsmgr@exodus.valpo.edu writes:

>Networkers:

>Does anyone know of a connection between either BITNET or Internet and the
>PROFS network?  Thank you.

As far as I know PROFS is a mail package that runs on IBM VM
Mainframes, not a network.  Machines which run PROFS can communicate
with either BITNET or the Internet.

Excuse me if you are asking something else.
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