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From: karnik@cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik)
Subject: India-RSA 4th ODI Score
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:16:23 GMT


India - 161 for 9 in 50 overs (Azhar 49, SRT 21, Donald 3-27 in 10)

RSA   - 65 for 1 in 26 overs (Hudson 22, Wessels 36*, Kirsten 4*)

	Surprisingly, Kapil has already bowled 9 overs...


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From: mrizvi@gfx.engga.uwo.ca (Mr. Mubashir Rizvi)
Subject: career records wanted
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:43:46 GMT
From: banarji@unixg.ubc.ca (Ajai Banarji)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Unnoticed cricket records
Date: 19 Dec 1992 05:00:54 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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			Unnoticed records

  With Zimbabwe's entry and South Africa's re-entry to test cricket, 
statisticians can keep themselves busy finding new records. For instance,
five members of India's current team (Kapil, Azhar, More, Shastri and 
Manjrekar) have become the only test players to play against 8 countries.
  In the old days (prior to 1970) there may have been a few players from
England, Australia and New Zealand who had played against all 6 test
countries existing at that time. Cowdrey and Barrington had scored
centuries against all 6 countries.
  Another minor record in the first India-SA test was O. Henry's debut.
At the age of 40 years and 295 days, he became the oldest SA player to
make his debut. (Another dubious record he set was being the first non-
white to play for South Africa. Apparently his ancestors were from Malaysia.)
  Did you know that a couple of obscure Ranji Trophy players recently set
a world first-class record for a second wicket partnership? More about this
later. 
  Try to guess who these players were. (Hint: one of them played in 2 tests
in 1985-86)
From: vaghela@laxatv.reo.dec.com (Umesh Vaghela)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: SA 122/2 + scorecard...
Keywords: no cookies, not now, never ever....
Date: 17 Dec 92 14:23:32 GMT
Reply-To: vaghela@laxatv.reo.dec.com (Umesh Vaghela)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation



South Africa vs India, 6th D/N, Kingsmead, Durban, 17/12/92
              South Africa                               India
Hudson     c Yadav b Kapil     15 ( 29)  Jadeja
Wessels  * not out             60 (103)  Prabhakar
Kirsten    c Manjrek b Shastr  44 ( 68)  Manjrekar
Rhodes   - not out              0 (  0)  Azhar
Callaghan                                Tendulkar
Cronje                                   Shastri
Richardsn                                Kapil
		                         Sharma
Pringle                                  Yadav
Donald                                   Kumble
DVilliers                                Raju
Extras  (W: 0 N: 1 B: 0 LB: 2)  3        Extras  (W: 0 N: 0 B: 0 LB: 0)  0
Total  (R:3.70  O:33.0 / 50)  122 / 2    Total  (R:0.00  O: 0.0)         0 / 0
   Req. R:0.00     Ov   M  R  Wi Wd Nb                      Ov   M  R  Wi Wd Nb
                                         Prabhakar          5.0  1  25  0  0  1
                                         Shastri         -  5.0  0  28  1  0  0
                                         Kapil              6.0  4   3  1  0  0
                                         Sharma             4.0  0  18  0  0  0
                                         Kumble          *  6.0  1  20  0  0  0
                                         Raju               7.0  1  26  0  0  0
                               Long off boundary

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From: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Subject: Good news SA/Ind game on line
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 16:10:49 GMT
Reply-To: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

      I have noticed that india/SA game is on-line The present score is India
108 for 5 after 35 overs. You can get the scores by fingering one of these
three addresses

ksrao@energy.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu     or
sankara@plains.nodak.edu

The .plan file will be updated every 10 minutes.


K. Sankara Rao                          e-mail k.srao@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu

Department of Electrical Engineering
Fargo, ND 58105  USA

Phone:  (701)237-7217  (o)
        (701)235-9912  (h)

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From: c1w6@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Ramesh Subramanian)
Subject: Re: test
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 05:02:20 GMT

In article <Bz4M51.CzB@acsu.buffalo.edu> skumar@acsu.buffalo.edu (Shivesh Kumar) writes:
>
>shastri hai hai..


Yeah Right!!!!!


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From: arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan)
Subject: Re: no best teams in cricket
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 20:49:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.185940.27392@news2.cis.umn.edu> suraj@microbe.med.umn.edu (Suraj Muley) writes:

>i recently read an article saying that pakistan was the best team in
>one day cricket today. i do not approve of this concept of best teams
>as criket is a sport where the outcome is multifactorial. i applaud
>the pakistanis for their fighting spirit and the innate ability to score
>6s of the last ball but that doesn't imply that they ae the greatest team.

get a life, another jealous indian.

>if they were the greatest team they should never lose a match ever.
>the performances of individual players differs so much from day to day that
>a team with a lot of good players (here i mean statistically) can lose to
>a team with not many stars (eg sri lanka beating new zealand in the test 
>match, nz almost did ver well in the world cup). 

Sri Lanka has a much better batting side than New Zealand ..................

i sincerely believe
>that cricket lovers should not be carried away by their team's wins
>(or loses) and not start making comments like "india is the best team"
>etc. as this is at best childish and rather redundant.
>

India will have to win some games infact many more games to be called
a good team. 

p.s. to the rest of the readers .... the problem with India seems
to be with team spirit, they have good players but no fighting spirit.


sahibzada rafay khan []

>i welcome any comments or remarks.
>merry christmas to the net readers.
>
>suraj muley.
>university of minnesota
>medical school.


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From: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Subject: Ind/SA ODI on finger
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:17:06 GMT
Reply-To: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

     Those of you in North America can get the scores every 10 minutes by the
command:

finger ksrao@energy.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
finger ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu   or
finger sankara@plains.nodak.edu

    Use of these addresses in place of Pieter's will reduce the transantantic
traffic.


K. Sankara Rao                          e-mail k.srao@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu

Department of Electrical Engineering
Fargo, ND 58105  USA

Phone:  (701)237-7217  (o)
        (701)235-9912  (h)

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From: mamohamm@vela.acs.oakland.edu (SKEPTICAL)
Subject: Pak vs WI
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:46:07 GMT


	Does anybody has details of the Pak-WI ODI? Heard
	WI came back and won the match. Congratulations!

	Does rain has anything to do with Pak's performance
	or was it overconfidence? Anybody from down under.


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From: jlaranha@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu (Jeevan Levin Aranha)
Subject: Need Info on how to subscribe to SPORTSTAR magazine ?
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:32:26 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

HI ,

I NEED INFO ON HOW TO GET SUBSCRIPTION TO THE SPORTSTAR MAGAZINE . IF ANY

NETTER ON R.S.C HAS ACCESS TO THIS MAGAZINE COULD YOU PLEASE INFORM ME HOW

TO GO ABOUT GETTING HOLD OF AGENTS WHO SELL SUBSCRIPTION FOR SPORTSTAR. 

YOUR ASSISTANCE WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

THANKS.

JEEVAN ARANHA.


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From: svchinch@uncc.edu (Shailesh Vasant Chinchalkar)
Subject: Six Off Last Over
Followup-To: poster 
Keywords: To Win/Save the ODI in Close Finish 
Reply-To: svchinch@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:03:37 GMT


As far as I know Pakistan has done this more than any other country to win/tie the ODI while batting second.

I remember some of the ocassions.....

* Last week against Aus. when 17 (?) runs were needed off last over Rashid hit a six off Waugh's last ball. 

*Akram hit a six off Viv Richard's second last ball when 3 runs were needed from 2 balls to win
 the Nehru Cup finals in India. THIS WAS THE ONLY BALL FACED BY AKRAM.

*During 1987 World Cup against WI when 14 runs were needed in last over(with only 1 wicket in hand)
 Qadir hit a six off Walsh's 4 th ball(then made 2 and 2 off lasr two balls) to win the match.

* THE FAMOUS MIANDAD SIX.............


There are some other players who had hit a six off last over to win/tie the match but in most cases
those players have been recognised batsmen from top order.

In a WSC match during 1985(?) Lamb made 17 off Bruce Reid's last over with 1 six but that was on the
second or third ball of the over.
From: amal@mel.dit.csiro.au (Amal De Silva)
Subject: Re: Martin Crowe given out - part ii
Keywords: Martin Crowe
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 92 07:15:18 GMT


In article <1992Dec9.041533.21177@cs.aukuni.ac.nz>, awil2@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Andrew James        Willmott       ) writes:
|> In <1992Dec8.231643.10084@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> danda@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Ajith Dandeniya) writes:
|> 
|> >In the second test of SL Vs NZ, NZ skipper Martin Crowe was given out caught 
|> >behind, but refused to go............
|> 
|> >Sri Lankan umpires eventually reversed their decision and he ended up getting
|> >a century.
|> 
|> >Hope this trend doesn't catch on.  
|> 
|> Which particular trend is this? The two reports I've heard have made it clear
|> that it was obvious to everyone involved that the ball hit the ground first.
|> The despicable action here is that Gurasinga appealed for a catch, even
|> though he must have known it was a bump ball. Martin Crowe knew a whopper of
|> a mistake had been made, and stood his ground until the square leg umpire
|> could inform his colleague of his mistake.
|> 
|> New Zealand have quite enough problems of their own without having to deal with
|> gamesmanship such as this.
|> 

I doubt that are many test players who would not appeal and keep thier mouth shut
when there is a possibility of dismissing a opposing batsmen. I am not
condoning what gurusingha did but it is now of a part of the game. I am sure there
thousanads of instances where the umpire has made a mistake but the batsmen has 
walked off knowing that he is not out( It is also possible that the batsmen can
assume that he is not out when he is out).  If every batsmen refused to go each
time the he is not happy with the decision then might as well get rid of the
umpires.

I am glad that Martin Crowe was allowed to bat on, but I do not think what he did
was correct.

Amal de Silva
From: vaghela@laxatv.reo.dec.com (Umesh Vaghela)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: India should give up. Was: SA wins the 4th
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:52:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: rdg.1992Dec14.165244.4488
Reply-To: vaghela@laxatv.reo.dec.com (Umesh Vaghela)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


-|>
|>In article <Bz96pz.1CBE@austin.ibm.com>, jogi@austin.ibm.com (Vijay Joglekar) writes:
|>> 
|>> As I had said earlier India should give up playing cricket.  Should 
|>> call back Gavaskar and Srikanth....
|>> 
|>> Our batting has been pretty fu**ed up.
|>
|>If they should give up playing cricket, why call back Gavaskar and Kris.
|>I can undersatand your disgust on their dismal batting performance which
|>incidentally is affecting your judgement too, it seems :--)
|>Take it easy,

|>Ravi P. Singh                    *    E-mail: rpsingh@hydra.uwo.ca

You sometime have good days and sometime bad.
India are going through a bad patch. No team can perform well unless they
are beaten badly and desperately need to win.

Look at Shastri, he lost his position in the top order batting line-up so
to prove himself he batted well, scored runs (fast!). 

Almost all players are now under pressure and scared of loosing there place
in the team so this might bring out some good match in the remaining ODIs.

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From: aamir@cs.sfu.ca (Aamir Husain)
Subject: Pak vs WI WSC
Keywords: WI at end of 42 ovs
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:52:06 GMT

the match has been reduced to 42 overs due to the rain interruptions

WI made 177/7 in 42 overs
richardson was 77 not out

bishop = 17 c ? b mushtaq at 173

i am unable to catch the freq 21740, i did manage to get
RNZ for a while at 17700 but lost that too.

source: ksrao finger command


Aamir

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From: mamohamm@vela.acs.oakland.edu (SKEPTICAL)
Subject: Aussies
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:54:40 GMT

	The Aussies seemed to have rejuvenated, since Mark Taylor
	took over. Anybody knows when Alan Border is coming back?

	Also, can somebody from down-under post the latest standings
	of the WSC after tonight's game. (WI vs PAK)

	Double Thanks to "Friendless" in advance.

Regards
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From: sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan)
Subject: Re: pak v. aus 1 day
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 16:41:20 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <6622@falcon.ukc.ac.uk> rsp@ukc.ac.uk (R.S.Pickett) writes:
>
>In article 23558 sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>
>>In article <Bz1yxM.DGo@nic.umass.edu> ganesan@thales.tmc.edu (Swaminathan Ganesan) writes:
>>>
>>>I think this match goes to show why many consider Pak. to be the best
>>>
>>>1 day team in the world right now. Coming back into the match has always
>>>been pak's strong point and this is what I think makes them stand apart
>>>from the rest.
>>
>>It's performances like this which are truly world champion stuff. Imagine 128/6
>>and the last 4 wickets make the 100 runs required (1 more would have just done
>>it). Pakistan is now finding the balance and reliabilty from everyone in the 
>>side. IMHO, this is the start of the Pakistan era of ODI dominance. But then
>>I could be proved wrong - sportspersons from the subcontinent have been known
>>to be mercurial.
>>
>>Sudhama
>>
>>
>
>Is it really true that tying a match with Australia is indicative of the
>best one day side in the world. Surely it would have been a rather more
>impressive performance if their top order batsmen hadn't got them into the
>difficult position from which they had to come back in the first place. I
>don't think it does much credit to Pakistan to suggest that a tie is such an
>amazing achievement. They're a better side than that. You say that just one

This is the first time this Pakistan team has batted so well so low down in the
order. Face it, 128/6 ... you'd expect 175 all out given the asking rate. It is
absolutely amazing that two lower order bats (one of whom - Rashid Latif had
just come in) could do what they did. We have seen their top order serve them
well in the World Cup. OK top orders collapse once in a way for all teams. Today
you know that getting the Pakistan top order out alone is just half the job - 
the lower order won't collapse like a pack of cards. This fight to the end under
adverse conditions is what provokes me to foresee an era of Pakistan ODI 
dominance.

>more would have done it, but equally one less would have just failed to do
>it (For example if Waugh hadn't bowled a full toss). Are we really supposed
>to believe that one ball can decide whether or not a side is truly world

To me, what happenned on the last ball fades in comparison to the fact that 
Pakistan ACTUALLY GOT INTO THAT SITUATION.

>champion material. Pakistan are the world champions because they won the
>world cup, so lets stop all these pointless arguments after every single
>match they play.

This was not a continuation of that debate - I have only stuck my head far
 enough to predict that Pakistan will dominate OD cricket for a while.(OK I say
World Cup champion, you say World Champion - I say potato, Dan Quayle says
potatoe. ie Big deal)
>
>Rob.

Sudhama
From: desikan@bucknell.edu (sridhar desikan GR)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Next World Cup
Date: 16 Dec 1992 08:18:41 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Dec16.123717.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>, cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec15.153703.6011@gserv1.dl.ac.uk>, A.M.T.Bell@daresbury.ac.uk (A.M.T. Bell) writes:
|> > Now that Zimbabwe are a test nation I would imagine that there would be at 
|> > least 10 nations taking part (9 test nations + ICC trophy champs), although 
|> > maybe it could be 12 nations (9 test + 3 ICC associates). This is just my 
|> > opinion though.
|> 
|> As far as I'm aware there will be 12 teams in the 1995 World Cup.
|> 
|> Alan
|> 

Go India !!!!! for the 12th place  ;-)

sridhar
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:01:29 EST
From: Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: Re: Donald, Kapil and South Africa
 <14DEC199222183778@utarlg.uta.edu> <92350.095309SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <1goosuINNmac@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu>

In article <1goosuINNmac@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu>, jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu
(Jawad Ali) says:
>
>Considering the harsh language above, I think it is only fair to
>chide you for the five lines of message above, followed by nine lines
>of self promotion bellow :-)
>
my language wasn't harsh the first 3 or 4 times. the last 2 times i've really
got irritated. as far as my .sig goes, its at the end of the post and you
can skip it. if i included a 100 lines of someone's article and sprinkled
2 or 3 lines of comments somewhere in between, you wouldn't know what to skip
and what to read- finally i guess you would skip the whole article. my point
is that if one seriously wants his follow-up to be read, then one should
take the trouble to edit out the superfluous lines.
several lines of self-promotion follow:    :-)

Stay cool,
Spaceman Spiff

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From: urajan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Uday Rajan)
Subject: Re: javed miandad and lack of sportsmanship
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 17:09:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.162106.17398@news2.cis.umn.edu> suraj@microbe.med.umn.edu (Suraj Muley) writes:
>javed miandad had once again proved that he is the most unsporting
>cricketer the world of cricket has ever seen by blaming the schedule
>for his loses.

While Miandad has, over the years, been involved in several on-the-field rows,
let's be fair about this one. Every losing touring side I can think of in 
recent times has found something to blame for its losses (normally, it's the
umpires). So, this (itself) doesn't make Miandad any more unsporting than any
other touring captain.
Furthermore, it does appear that modern-day touring schedules (except,
possibly, in England) are very rough on players/teams that don't hit form 
from day 1. There is generally a shortage of 3 or 4 day matches, possibly
because these (unlike 1-day internationals) are not money-making propositions.
When India toured Australia last year, it seemed (I'm not saying it was so,
but it certainly seemed so) that they played almost no first-class matches 
after the first Test. The result was that players like Manjrekar and 
Azharuddin had no chance to play themselves in in "friendlier" conditions,
and someone like Vengsarkar, who didn't play in the 1-day matches, went 
weeks between Test innings, with nothing else in between.
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