From: johnson@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Art Johnson)
Subject: Re: Clinton's In, Bushie's OUT!
Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, UW-Madison
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 18:07:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.042827.29736@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>  
a74k110@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (Chris Peterson) writes:
> In article <1992Nov8.200751.22154@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu>,  
johnson@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Art Johnson) writes...
> 
> It will definatly END [gov't sanctioned race-baiting], not toned down.

     I hope it does end, but I'm going to wait and see for a bit before I  
agree with you. I am willing to say that the race-baiting will be  
*greatly* toned down, at least. That's as far as I'm willing to go for now  
based on the evidence of how the Clinton campaign was run. 
 
> Actually Powell has never let his party affiliation become known.  Since
> his Chairman position is supposed to be free of party politics.  But,  
he's
> widely believed to be a democrat.  I expect Clinton to either keep him
> at the chairman position, or ask him to become Sec. of Defense. 

     You're right about Powell not publicly declaring his party  
affiliation. My statement about him being a liberal Republican is based on  
an observation of who his friends are and which groups he gives speeches  
to. All of the people who have helped him along in his military career  
have been Republicans, e.g. Dick Cheney, Casper Weinberger, George  
Schultz, George Bush, Ronald Reagan, ... That means that most or all of  
his political connections are within the Republican Party. Generally, one  
forms political alliances with those who have a similiar outlook. Also,  
I've noticed that most of the groups that he gives speeches to tend to be  
more Republican-oriented.

     Personally, I'd be very surprised if Clinton offered him the Defense  
post. Clinton has plenty of senior congressional Democrats from which to  
choose. I also think that the position would be a waste of Powell's time  
and experience. Powell does not need any additional experience running a  
bureaucratic organization in order to become "qualified" to be President.  
Remaining as chairman of the JCS would be a better jumping-off point,  
should he wish to run for President in the future, IMO.
  
> But, you should at least read his WHOLE plan,
> before dismissing his programs for the poor.

     I'm not dismissing them out of hand. I just think that, as they now  
stand, they are inadequate. But hey, if his plans become more weighty,  
I'll be the first one to cheer.
      
> > 
> >     Clinton's urban agenda...well, I really haven't seen much of one.  
> >[..stuff deleted regarding some misconceptions about a couple of  
plans..]
> 
> I should post his complete proposals to this newsgroup, so at least
> we can have a discussion about the actual plans.  

     Please do. Now that Bush and Co. have been driven out, it's important  
that this opportunity not be blown. I'd also like to know what you think  
my misconceptions are?

     [...some stuff deleted...]
 
> Even regarding his Health care plan, that is not the one that will be  
passed 
> by congress, since there are something like 8 different plans floating
> around.  He'll have probably come up with some sort of plan that  
combines a
> lot of these other plans for it to pass.  Believe it or not, there are
> provisions in these plans to help medical care be available to areas of
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 the
> country that previously did not (Sort of like medical clinics, my memory
> is vague on this).

     I'm curious as to how these plans plan to significantly improve  
access to medical care in rural and many urban areas. My personal  
experience with medical students tells me that _very_ few have any  
interest in practicing medicine in these areas (even if the government  
pays all of their loans in exchange for only three or four years of such  
practice). And _none_ of those who are interested in medical research will  
do this. They will get M.D.-PhDs (which takes seven years to complete) and  
end up teaching and doing research at one of the major university  
hospitals. Do any of these plans consider coercion as a way to allieviate  
the shortage, i.e. _anyone_ who wishes to practice medicine in the United  
States must spend x number of years practicing medicine among the poor, or  
have their license revolked?   
     
> 
> -Chris
> 
> 
> 

Arthur Johnson
johnson@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american