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From: tom@cs.su.oz.au (Thomas James Jones)
Subject: goodbye saints, hello hawks?
Reply-To: tom@cs.su.oz.au
Organization: Basser Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 01:06:06 GMT


	Can Hawthorn win the premiership?
	Maybe. Probably not, especially if WCE finish 3rd.
	However if it is Footscray(3)v Hawthorn(6), I know where my money
	would be. Then (could) come Geelong... (or Collingwood)
	From there it could be Hawthorn all over.

	Carlton look ominous - they have some awesome players plus the
	ability to WIN premierships. (and it has been 5 years.  It seems
	a long time since Carlton have waited longer than 5 years between 
	flags).

	WCE? It's a form thing.  If they have it in September, then I think
	it could be their year.  Their last two games - Footscray and Carlton
	will probably indicate a lot about where WCE are going in '92.
	Having said that, they ARE second, without really firing at any
	stage of the year.

	Geelong. Will finish top, but what does it prove?  This year,
	more than ever they have been awful under pressure.  With both
	WCE and Hawthorn in the finals (ie if this happens), and Carlton
	in form, then Geelong can forget it for another year.

	Collingwood.  Least impressive of likely finalists, may dip straight
	out in one of the elimination games. They are tough, but appear
	to lack the ability of the above teams.

	Footscray.  How much more will Terry Wheeler (?sp) be made to 
	eat his words? IMHO way out of the top league, I don't know
	how they are third, so they could yet prove me wrong, but I 
	cannot seeing them winning a final.  They were completely 
	thrashed by Carlton, and since the first half of the season
	(where the were 9-2 and top I think) Footscray have looked
	like the decent middle order club they should be. 
	(given personel etc)

	St Kilda.  Well it seems sweet revenge for Lockett's arrogance
	throughout the year, allthough it's a pity for guys like
	Winmar, Kickett and McAdam, who are all beautiful players.
	Also Harvey seems on the verge of greatness.


	tom

	should've alienated most people by now.

	go dons
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
From: tom@cs.su.oz.au (Thomas James Jones)
Subject: Re: goodbye saints, hello hawks?
Reply-To: tom@cs.su.oz.au
Organization: Basser Department of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 05:55:18 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.112507.27047@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au>, rxkand@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Andrew Hall) writes:
|> tom@cs.su.oz.au (Thomas James Jones) writes:
|> >	throughout the year, allthough it's a pity for guys like
|> >	Winmar, Kickett and McAdam, who are all beautiful players.
|> >	Also Harvey seems on the verge of greatness.
|> 
|> 
|> >	tom 
|>        I agree with you Tom your team analysis is very good but
|>        don`t put dale kickett in the same league with Winmar McAdam or harvery
|> -- 
|>           ------------------------------------------------------
|> 	  |  Andrew Hall         rxkand@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au   |

	Maybe not yet. But look at Derek Kickett at Essendon.
	He was recruited after little success (comparitively)
	at Nth Melbourne, and is now (I'd say) Essendon's most
	valuable player.  Give Dale a few years, and he may do 
	the same.  


	tom
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian,aus.footy,utas.sport
From: s1180953@giaeb.cc.monash.edu.au (Darren Hemmingsen)
Subject: Melbourne hoodoo on Hawthorn
Organization: Monash University College Gippsland, Churchill 3842, Victoria, AUSTRALIA.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 00:25:22 GMT

A friend commented to me today that he thought Melbourne would beat Hathorn in
round 24. This he based on the number of times that Melbourne has beaten
Hawthorn in the last few seasons. Melbourne beat Hawthorn?? When was the last
time Melbourne beat Hawthorn? Have Melbourne beaten Hawthorn in the last three
seasons? I believe that if Hawthorn make the finals, and they will, and if
they play on a firmer surface like the M.C.G, then the Hawks have a damn good
From: tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Thomas Marvan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Saints, we can still make it!
Date: 21 Aug 92 08:59:58 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego


Here's another way St. Kilda can make the finals that no-one has
suggested:

Say the Dees beat the Saints by 20 points, and then come out the
next week all fired up against a Hawthorn combination sluggish from
the previous week's bye and whip them by 100 points! 

How 'bout that!  Colin Entwistle, am I wrong!  Will the Saints make
the finals if this happens?


You bloody better believe it!



Tom Marvan.
From: heard@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au (George Heard (Laurie 8))
Subject: Re: melbournescum
Followup-To: misc.test,rec.sport.football.australian
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 08:54:45 GMT

10713166@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (ROHAN TREGEAR) writes:
         ^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^

[very strange comment regarding a game of football between the team from
 Melbourne and the team from Collingwood deleted]

They make engineers take communications classes at Monash, don't they?

George
Laurie 8 <heard@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au> | Some Driveways are concrete
Theoretical Chemistry PhD student        | Some Driveways have bricks
University of Tasmania, Australia        | Other Driveways
Unashamed 70s man, glad to be glam.      | Have Pebble-Mix - Laurie 8         
Opinions expressed above are those not only of Laurie 8, but the whole world
From: noz@imag.fr (Noz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Grand Final
Date: 21 Aug 92 09:21:59 GMT
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France


I post this article for aussie friends of mine who are now working in Paris.
They try to find a solution to watch the Grand Final live on TV from France.
Does anybody has an idea of which european channels are playing it ?

I think that one english channel might do it but I don't know which one.
Do you know any german, italian, ... channels playing it ?


-- 
        bernard Noz

e-mail    : noz@imag.fr
adresse   : LGI-IMAG (campus), Bat. B, bureau 206
	    BP 53 X, 38041 Grenoble Cedex
telephone : 76.51.44.40
From: mbcas@gamgee.cc.flinders.edu.au (C.A.Strobel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: SANFL Results
Date: 13 Aug 92 09:36:23 GMT
Organization: Flinders University


Hi dudes,

A couple of weeks ago I posted the SANFL results - I had intended to do
this each week but as the saying goes, shit happens ...

However, the interest in the league ladder is really hotting up here (I think
that is because the Crows are having a bit of trouble, although three in row
can we knock St. Kilda over at home and make it four?)

The ladder -

                    W        L       Pts       %
Port               17        2       34       59.05
Eagles             12        7       24       49.43
North              11        8       22       54.82
Glenelg            10        9       20       51.81
West                9       10       18       50.00
---------------------------------------------------
South               9       10       18       49.12
Norwood             8       10       16       52.89
Central             6       12       12       45.07
Sturt               2       16        4       36.81


Last week,

Port   2.5  6.6  11.9  16.12 (108)     South   4.1  7.5  12.10  20.16 (136)
Eagles 1.1  4.6   4.8   7.11 (53)      West    9.2 10.5  13.7   14.10 (94)

Played at Alberton                     Played at Richmond
Crowd : 6,917                          Crowd : 1,963

Norwood  0.2  2.10  9.11  16.20 (116)  North   2.5  6.6  6.11  8.18 (66)
Centrals 3.7  4.8   6.12  8.12  (60)   Glenelg 2.2  5.3  7.7   7.11 (53)

Played at Football Park                Played at Prospect 
Crowd : 2,532                          Crowd : 2,898

This Week,

Saturday Norwood Vs Glenelg  (Footy Park)
         South Vs Sturt      (Adelaide Oval)
         Central Vs Port     (Elizabeth Oval)
         West Vs North       (Richmond Oval)
    Bye  Eagles

In other SANFL news - 

-    Port Adelaide played Mark Williams has annouced his retirement.  He has
indicated his intention to coach - even if it is for another league side.
Williams,33, has played 66 games for West, 135 games for Collingwood, 66 
games for the Brisbane Bears and more than 100 with port.

-    Michael Aish will play his 300th game for Norwood this week.  Aish won 
the Magery Medal in 1981.

-    Sturt football club has suffered yet another blow.  The once proud
club has had its troubles in the last few years, although the youth of
the club is strong.  Ex coach Merv Keane has said in a letter to the club
(doesn't it suprise you that a confidential letter can find it's way into
the hands of the local footy show on radio?) that he believes the club has 
to make major changes in management, and with that in recruitment.  We can
only hope Sturt can once again become the club it once was.

That All Fokes!!

Craig
From: 832989@SKUL.USASK.CA (Glenn Chin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.misc
Subject: CFL Week 7
Date: 22 Aug 92 20:27:59 GMT

CFL rosters in newsgroup rec.sport.football.misc.

Eastern Division	  W	  L	Home	Away	 F	 A

Ottawa Rough Riders	  4	  3	4-1	0-2	186	158
Winnipeg Blue Bombers	  4	  3	3-0	1-3	200	179
Hamilton Tiger-Cats	  4	  3	2-2	2-1	208	199
Toronto Argonauts	  2	  5	2-1	0-4	224	217

Western Division

Edmonton Eskimos	  6	  1	3-0	3-1	231	191
Calgary Stampeders	  5	  2	3-0	2-2	219	178
Saskatchewan Roughriders  3	  4	2-1	1-3	189	213
British Columbia Lions	  0	  7	0-4	0-3	171	293

Average number of points scored per game:  58.1.

Nov 29	80th Grey Cup at SkyDome in Toronto.  Tickets: (416) 872-5000.


REGULAR SEASON SCHEDULE
					EDT
WEEK 8
Aug 26	Ottawa at Toronto		 7:00pm
Aug 27	Hamilton at Winnipeg		 9:00pm CBC
	Calgary at Edmonton		 9:30pm TSN
Aug 29	British Columbia at Saskatchewan 9:30pm CBC

WEEK 7
Aug 19	Winnipeg 20 at Hamilton 21
Aug 20	Saskatchewan 9 at Ottawa 20
	Toronto 16 at Edmonton 39
Aug 21	British Columbia 23 at Calgary 44
						Players of the week
WEEK 6
Aug 12	Edmonton 30 at Hamilton 28
Aug 13	Calgary 11 at Ottawa 32			D-Ottawa DB Anthony Drawhorn
	Toronto 17 at Winnipeg 32
     Saskatchewan 46 at British Columbia 43(OT)	O-Saskatchewan QB Kent Austin
						L-Saskatchewan DT Jearld Baylis
WEEK 5
Aug 6	Winnipeg 6 at Toronto 32
	Ottawa 14 at Edmonton 29		D-Edmonton LB Larry Wruck
	Hamilton 27 at British Columbia 25	O-B.C. QB Tony Kimbrough
Aug 7	Calgary 21 at Saskatchewan 30		L-Saskatchewan DT Jearld Baylis

WEEK 4
July 30	Saskatchewan 24 at Hamilton 38
	Edmonton 30 at Ottawa 25		D-Edmonton LB Willie Pless
	British Columbia 15 at Winnipeg 41	O-Winnipeg QB Matt Dunigan
	Toronto 26 at Calgary 28		L-Calgary DE Tim Cofield

WEEK 3
July 22	Edmonton 32 at Winnipeg 51		O-Edmonton SB Chris Armstrong
July 23	Hamilton 39 at Toronto 30		D-Hamilton CB Terry Wright
	Calgary 37 at British Columbia 19
July 24	Ottawa 13 at Saskatchewan 23		L-Saskatchewan DE Bobby Jurasin

WEEK 2
July 15	Saskatchewan 31 at Edmonton 34 (OT)	D-Edmonton LB Willie Pless
July 16	British Columbia 20 at Toronto 61	O-Toronto QB Rickey Foggie
	Winnipeg 14 at Ottawa 29		L-Ottawa DE Gregg Stumon
	Hamilton 22 at Calgary 34

WEEK 1
July 8	Calgary 44 at Saskatchewan 26		L-Calgary OT Ken Moore
July 9	Toronto 42 at Ottawa 53 (OT)		O-Ottawa QB Tom Burgess
	Winnipeg 36 at Hamilton 33 (OT)		D-Ottawa LB Angelo Snipes
	Edmonton 37 at British Columbia 26
From: 832989@BOOTH.USASK.CA (Glenn Chin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.misc
Subject: CFL Week 6
Date: 18 Aug 92 01:42:38 GMT

CFL rosters in newsgroup rec.sport.football.misc.

Eastern Division	  W	  L	Home	Away	 F	 A

Winnipeg Blue Bombers	  4	  2	3-0	1-2	180	158
Ottawa Rough Riders	  3	  3	3-1	0-2	166	149
Hamilton Tiger-Cats	  3	  3	1-2	2-1	187	179
Toronto Argonauts	  2	  4	2-1	0-3	208	178

Western Division

Edmonton Eskimos	  5	  1	2-0	3-1	192	175
Calgary Stampeders	  4	  2	2-0	2-2	175	155
Saskatchewan Roughriders  3	  3	2-1	1-2	180	193
British Columbia Lions	  0	  6	0-4	0-2	148	249

Average number of points scored per game:  59.8.

REGULAR SEASON SCHEDULE
					EDT
WEEK 7
Aug 19	Winnipeg at Hamilton		 7:30pm TSN
Aug 20	Saskatchewan at Ottawa		 7:30pm
	Toronto at Edmonton		 9:00pm CBC
Aug 21	British Columbia at Calgary	 7:30pm TSN

WEEK 6
Aug 12	Edmonton 30 at Hamilton 28
Aug 13	Calgary 11 at Ottawa 32
	Toronto 17 at Winnipeg 32
	Saskatchewan 46 at British Columbia 43 (OT)
						Players of the week
WEEK 5
Aug 6	Winnipeg 6 at Toronto 32
	Ottawa 14 at Edmonton 29		D-Edmonton LB Larry Wruck
	Hamilton 27 at British Columbia 25	O-B.C. QB Tony Kimbrough
Aug 7	Calgary 21 at Saskatchewan 30		L-Saskatchewan DT Jearld Baylis

WEEK 4
July 30	Saskatchewan 24 at Hamilton 38
	Edmonton 30 at Ottawa 25		D-Edmonton LB Willie Pless
	British Columbia 15 at Winnipeg 41	O-Winnipeg QB Matt Dunigan
	Toronto 26 at Calgary 28		L-Calgary DE Tim Cofield

WEEK 3
July 22	Edmonton 32 at Winnipeg 51		O-Edmonton SB Chris Armstrong
July 23	Hamilton 39 at Toronto 30		D-Hamilton CB Terry Wright
	Calgary 37 at British Columbia 19
July 24	Ottawa 13 at Saskatchewan 23		L-Saskatchewan DE Bobby Jurasin

WEEK 2
July 15	Saskatchewan 31 at Edmonton 34 (OT)	D-Edmonton LB Willie Pless
July 16	British Columbia 20 at Toronto 61	O-Toronto QB Rickey Foggie
	Winnipeg 14 at Ottawa 29		L-Ottawa DE Gregg Stumon
	Hamilton 22 at Calgary 34

WEEK 1
July 8	Calgary 44 at Saskatchewan 26		L-Calgary OT Ken Moore
July 9	Toronto 42 at Ottawa 53 (OT)		O-Ottawa QB Tom Burgess
	Winnipeg 36 at Hamilton 33 (OT)		D-Ottawa LB Angelo Snipes
	Edmonton 37 at British Columbia 26
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.misc
From: davec@iplmail.orl.mmc.com (Dave Crowder)
Subject: Football Plays.
Organization: Martin Marietta
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 14:49:36 GMT

	Greetings Football fans.  I have just begun coaching Pop Warner
Junior Midget football.  I am currently trying to put a playbook together, and
was wondering if any of the other coaches out there could send me copies of
their favorite plays.  I am most interested in passing plays and blocking 
assignments.

					Thanks in advance, 
						Dave Crowder
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.misc
From: main@minerva.cs.colorado.edu (Michael Main)
Subject: Re: Fantasy Drafts
Organization: Universtiy of Coloardo, Boulder
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:49:59 GMT

Round 11 update, in the fantasy football draft:

-  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
121.WR-Dawsey TB       RB-Green CIN       RB-Foster PIT      RB-Smith DEN
122.RB-Bentley IND     PK-Norwood BUF     PK-Ruzek PHI       DE-Kansas City
123.QB-Majkowksi GB    RB-Williams KC     DE-Kansas City     TE-Green PIT
124.RB-Lee SF          DE-Chicago         DE-Buffalo         WR-Proehl PHO
125.QB-Testaverde TB   RB-Johnson PHO     WR-Dawsey TB       WR-Beebe BUF
126.RB-Stacy PHI       QB-Bono SF         WR-Pritchard ATL   WR-Jones MIN
127.WR-Jackson DEN     WR-Brown RAID      RB-Byars PHI       WR-Green DET
128.RB-Heyward NO      DE-Minnesota       WR-Hill PHO        RB-Harmon SD
129.WR-Kane SEA        QB-Testaverde TB   RB-Bell RAID       WR-Paige KC
130.WR-Barnett KC      WR-Waddle CHI      RB-Brooks CLE      WR-Clark MIA
131.DE-Pittsburgh      WR-Dawsey          QB-Testaverde TB   WR-Nattiel TB
132.--not yet picked-- RB-Dupree RAM      RB-Heyward NO      RB-Davis BUF

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: martyp@engin.umich.edu (Martin Pochmara)
Subject: Longest DIV-I Streaks!
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 20:11:34 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

Wins	Team		Years		Ended By	Score
-----   -----------   -------           -------------   ------
47	Oklahoma	53-57		Notre Dame	7-0
39	Washington	08-14		Oregon State	0-0
37	Yale	      1890-93		Princeton	6-0
37 	Yale	      1887-89		Princeton	10-0
35	Toledo		69-71		Tampa		21-0
34	Penn	      1894-96		Lafayette	6-4
31    	Oklahoma	48-50		Kentucky	13-7
31	Penn          1896-98		Harvard 	10-0
30	Texas		68-70		Notre Dame	24-11
29	MICHIGAN	01-03		Minnesota	6-6
28	Alabama		78-80		Mississippi St. 6-3
28 	Oklahoma	73-75		Kansas		23-3
28 	Michigan State	50-53		Purdue		6-0
27	Nebraska	01-04		Colorado	6-0
26	Cornell		21-24		Williams	14-7
26	MICHIGAN	03-05		Chicago		2-0
25	MICHIGAN	46-49		Army		21-7
25	Army		44-46		Notre Dame	0-0
25 	USC		31-33		Oregon State	0-0
25	BYU		83-85		UCLA		27-24


Source 1991 Almanac


					Marty Pochmara
From: valdis@spica.usc.edu (Valdis Kalejs)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Fair Weather Fans
Date: 18 Aug 1992 16:45:18 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: spica.usc.edu

>>>I would love to see 'SC do well. But I don't think it's going to happen.
>>
>>I think they call a football fan such as you a "fair-weather" fan, rather
>>than a "loyal or die-hard fan". But dont worry,most sports fans are!
>> 
>>Fight On,
>>Valdis Kalejs
>
>
>No sir, we call football fans like him "realists."  We call fans like you blind supporters who will never admit when their team isn't that good.
>If he had said, "USC's team isn't very good this year, I think I'll root for Stanford -- they`re in everyone's top 20," then he would indeed be a fair weather fan.  An informed one at that.
>But he's still supporting the Trojans, just not expecting deeds that the team probably won't live up to.  
>
>Jason Gische
>Go Cardinal

 Jason,

Here's the real definition. A "fair weather fan" is a person who ONLY truly 
pledges their support when their team is doing well, or during "fair weather"
times,then drops out of sight when things aren't going so well. But what would
Cardinal fans know what support and loyalty REALLY mean?

Fight On,
Valdis Kalejs





Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: paladin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jason Gische)
Subject: Re: Demt. DuBose (sp?) playing
Keywords: Holtz, sit out
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 19:15:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.001047.25879@u.washington.edu> baze@carson.u.washington.edu (Behzad Khamneian) writes:
>In article <66489@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:
>>
>>Of course he'll play.  Remember last year when two Notre Dame players, I
>>think they were Mirer and some defensive guy, were arrested at a party.
>
While that may be true, about three years ago Holtz suspended Michael Stonebreaker, one of the teams best linebackers, for teh entire season because  he had move a friend's car down the street when his license had been suspended (Stonebreaker's license, that is.)
I remember thinking that it was an unduly harsh punishment at the time.

And from what i read today, it looks like Dubose is off the team.  That would make him eligible for the NFL Supplemental draft.  Hmm, another quality player available this year.  the Jets could sure use another solid linebacker.

Jason Gische
From: jay@astro.as.utexas.edu (Jay Boisseau)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: More news on Hadnot (UT running back)
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:37:48 GMT
Organization: McDonald Observatory, University of Texas @ Austin

[The following is a summary of an article in this morning's Daily Texas:]

UT Coach Mackovic suspended Butch Hadnot indefinitely for his recent
conduct, which Mackovic called "detrimental to the team." He also said
that "Butch's recent actions towards the team and his own academic 
well-being are not what we expect from our student athletes."

Basically, Hadnot has been a borderline student since he arrived at UT
(he had to take the SAT a second time to get over the 700 barrier), and
the new coach is frustrated at his academic performance. He apparently
skipped classes consistently for his human sexuality course (a popular
easy course here at UT) while _retaking_ it in the first summer session
despite appeals from the prof, according to classmates.

He also attended an A&M practice recently, and talked to A&M coach
Slocum about transferring. Mackovic and Hadnot have since talked about
the incident, but Mackovic is not pleased about the way Butch handled
it, or how it will affect the team.

Hadnot can rejoin the team if: (1) he regains his academic eligibility,
(2) shows a dedicatoin to school work, and (3) mends his relations with
the team. (Personally, I have little hope...)

Hadnot is currently undecided about his future.

Hadnot's loss leaves the RB position, once the deepest position on the
team, a little thin. Freshman RB Shane Childers quit the team, and Michigan
transfer Juan Kemp tore a ligament in his knee.

[Also, Grady Cavness, a starter in the defensive backfield, must pass
his summer classes to play this fall. The kicker, Jason Ziegler, has 
already been lost to grades.]

Jay Boisseau
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: BG/OSU prediction
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:11:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: desire.1992Aug19.141115.3622
Distribution: usa
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <1992Aug19.134929.7228@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming) writes:
> david.d.nason writes:
> 
>>On another note, it was reported that Bo Schembechler will be doing the
>>play-by-play along with somebody else (Dan Dierdorf?) for the OSU-Bowling 
>>Green game.  I pray to the gods that my tickets come through so I won't have 
>>to listen to that.
> 
> Blech!  I can take Bo . . .
> 
> BTW, look for Bowling Green to take it away from the Buckeyes in the 4th 
> quarter in a close one.  The mighty MAC will roar!

	Ahhh, BG is going to fold early.  They Buckeyes will play sloppy, like
they always do at this time of year.  But it won't be close.

	OSU:	28
	BG:	10

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From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami losing a game
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:11:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: hydra.65773
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett) wrote:

}Someone told me ...
}     that Iowa is pumped up for this game like it is the biggest game they
}have ever played.

"Someone" was full of it.  We all know that "preseason" games for 
Big Ten teams are just warmups, and that the only ones they really
care about winning are the conference games for the Rose Bowl.
Northwestern is therefore a bigger game for Iowa this season than Miami.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
        "... and we tell ourselves that what we found 
                   was what we meant to find."
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Subject: Re: USC Football
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:31:41 GMT

rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann) writes:
>crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>> 
>> Hmm, ya' know what...I think the University of $outhern Califonia has a
>> 99.7% chance of winning the MNC this year.
>> 
>
>Cliffy,
>
>Welcome back from your recuperation, oops, I mean vacation.
>I would hope the lumps have healed, but I see your still
>obsessed with PAC-10 drivel.  Maybe 2 weeks was not long enough
>to effect a cure. 
>
>So, what's so big about the Rose Bowl?
>d8^).

Hmm, Bob,  you are right.  I give Rutgers the other 0.03% chance of winning
the MNC.

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Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Truth is a statue, and you are all just 
University of Washington      *   a bunch of pigeons. 
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