From: i000@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM ()
Subject: Re: RSS ( response to 2nd E-Mail..)
Originator: indu@iss700
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 22:32:52 GMT

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>  Your reply to my E-mail fails to answer the points raised by me. It seeems you are still living in the Era of JAHALAT. This comes to me as no surprise as your articles in SCP are filled with the usual rhetoric that is being taught as "HISTORY" in your co> untry. Although it is highly unlikely that a fanatic like you could be convinced by reasoning, I reckon it to be still worth an effort;
  WHY ARE YOU IN SUCH A CONFLICT WITH YOUR OWN SELF? ALL THIS CONFUSION, 
   one side you say that it is highly unlikely... and on the other side you
reckon.... Brother! Know that I'm not taught any of what I have said in my 
History textbooks. I have heard in INDIA that there is lot of anti-Indian which
goes into a school curriculum in Pakistan. But that is not so in India. This 
side of our nation is bit different. They just ignore Pakistan. As if 
non-existant.  All I am trying to explain you is only thru other sources, like 
reading lot of non-academic books, biographies,...

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>       Shayad kay teray dil may utter jaey meri baat
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> > WHEN DOES YOUR HISTORY START?....
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> I will still maintain that HISTORICALLY PAKISTAN WAS NEVER PART OF INDIA. Todays Pakistan has no significant history. It, however, does have a certain BUDH history but that too has a little, if any at all, significance to our present. History only tells a> bout the past, and that does not mean that we should start living in past. One does not start living like a stone-age man just because that has been a part of history.
   TRUE. DON'T LIVE IN STONE AGE. BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU DON"T EVEN
ACKNOWLEDGE IT. AND WHAT IS WRONG IN THAT? IF WE HINDU'S WERE  A GREAT NATION
THEN WHAT IS WRONG. BE PROUD OF YOUR FORE-FATHERS HERITAGE (that first Hindu
who got converted). Arre bhai! You acknowledge that your fore-fathers were Hindu
and got converted. What I'm talking of HISTORICAL link is that link which was
forcefully converted.  DO NOT FEEL ASHAMED OR FEEL NEW TO Hinduism. It is not
your mistake. As I had already written, barbarians and Robbers came and 
that first hindu was converted at the point of sword. Some times these people
were also fed meat forcefully and converted. These are  not your faults. THERE
SET A TREND, HINDUISM IS SO BROAD THAT IT CAN ACCOMODATE EVEN YOUR 
Islamic religious as your personal religious life. It is the first step and last
step to your assimilation to Akhand Bharat. 
  You can still keep maintaining that Pakistan was never part of INDIA. But 
fortunately our that-first-hindu always proves you wrong. Any way it is not
that I wish to see you losing. So don't go on the lines EVEN-IF-I'm-WRONG
I still maintain......
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> Pakistan came into existence well before 1947, I.E. when the very first hindu converted to Islam. To understend this philosophical claim you need to have a clear impartial state of mind as well as a thorough knowledge of ISLAMIC concept of nationalism, wh> ich you lack, sadly. Once again I would like to quote Allama Muhammad Iqbal on the concept of muslim Nationalism;
  NATIONALISM IS NATIONALISM. THERE IS NO ISLAMIC NATIONALISM OR ANYTHING ELSE.
AND LEARN THAT WHAT YOU ARE TODAY CALLING ISLAMIC NATIONALISM, people call it
Islamic Fundamentalism and fanaticism. There is no claim. Leave alone 
Philosophical. The reason is WHAT DO YOU MEAN PAKISTAN.
   The word Pakistan, or its people or its culture or Heritage or  its 
  constitution none belong to 1947 except for the word 'PAKISTAN'  and
  the books like constitution and other things which were created. Everything
  else WHETHER-YOU-STILL-MAINTAIN-OR-NOT our first-hindu-who-got-converted
  is always there. 
> >When I mean Pakistan I also include the GHANDARA age which is present >Afghanistan.
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> You must realize that the underlying basis to unite different people as a nation is atleast one common denominator among the people, such as idealogy, religion, ethnicity, language, norms, culture etc "AND NOT HISTORY". WHAT DO YOU SEE IN COMMON IN AN AFG> HAN AND YOURSELF????
   What I see in common with a Nepalee the same I see in common with YOU and 
   also AFGHAN. My commonality as you have said starts even before
   first-hindu

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> >During the time of Ikshwakus an Iranian princess was married to DASHARTHA...
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> What significance does this marriage has either on your or Iranian history? If you mean by this that Persia should be a part of AKHAND BHARAT then by your logic Egypt should also be a part of your AKHAND BHARAT as late Shah of Iran's son got married to Sa> dat's daughter. And, perhaps, Italy as well. :)
   Probably that marriage is currently not  having much significance owing
   to Islamic fundamentalism. But It is only to show how close these countries
   were in History. I never said these are parts of Un-divided Bharat. I 
   was giving you some orientation towards our history, our long lost relative
   that-first-hindu-who-was-converted

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> >Its true that during the ISLAMIC CRUSADES India was weak internally and we all
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> >lost, ...
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