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From: v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Guinan in the 20th century!
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:24:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

i was watchin' MTV and i saw Howard Jones' video "Things can only get 
better", and i made a startling discovery...  Guinan must have been a member 
of Afrodiziak (HoJo's back up singers of the time)!!!!

(watch the video and you'll see what i mean.)

:) :) :)
<for the humour- impaired> 
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       6037 Devlin Avenue + Niagara Falls, NY + 14304 + after 28 Aug 1992 
    "Higher emotions are what separate us from the lower orders of life... 
                  Higher emotions, and table manners."
                       --- Deanna Troi, _Imzadi_
From: batemanc@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Mad Chris)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: STTNG Inaugural Edition Cards for SALE/TRADE and BUYING
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:13:08 GMT

Hi! I need:

1C, 1E, 20, 57 and 98. 

Various available for swap, or puchasing considered.
Any deal struck - already traded with one kind soul
one packet of McVities Homewheat biscuits for some
cards I needed.

Mad Chris.
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From: alpha@hubcap.clemson.edu (Shekhar Borde')
Subject: Re: First Duty question
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:18:54 GMT

judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson) writes:

>On the episode "First Duty," (I think that is what it was called) Wesley's
>team was going to attempt an illegal maneuvar with their ships.  However, 
>in practice one of the pilots was killed and they tried to cover up the
>fact that they were attempting a culvoid (sp) burst.  The question is: if
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                                           |
      If it interests you that's "Colburn Starburst" (I think)

>they knew that it was banned, then why were they practicing it in the first
>place?  Sure they said that they were going to astonish the audience at
>graduation, but, aren't they a little smarter than that.  The episode was
>good, but that was a major flaw.

Actually, I think they were quite smart. The problem seemed to be they
were extremely (over?)confident. Almost to the point of arrogance. They
sincerely believed that they could pull off the starburst effectively 
and that the academy would be so impressed that no charges would be
pressed.
 

>--
>"I drank what?" -- Socrates

>judson@watserv.ucr.edu


-SB

 alpha@hubcap.clemson.edu



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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Subject: Re: ST VI Video - $50
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:24:05 GMT

>>>>> On 17 Aug 92 22:17:20 GMT, maurice@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com (Maurice Liang) said:


maurice> For Sale


maurice> Star Trek VI - e Undiscovered Country Video Tape VHS in
maurice> original box - pre-viewed, but in good condition $50 (half
maurice> price from the $99 suggested retail price)

All you have to do is wait a few months and get it new for about
$25-$30. The LD is only $30 now.
--
                        Scott Streeter
                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
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From: daf31428@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (David A. Fleming)
Subject: Re: Source of STTNG GIFs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 07:21:58 GMT
Keywords: GIFs, where are they?

	Check vab02.larc.nasa.gov in the gifs/misc/startrek directory.  Grab
the README file for an index and pointers on how to find the gif you want.


			Dave Fleming
			daf31428@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu



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From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Subject: Re: SEX ON THE HOLODECK (was: DS9!! UGH!!)
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 05:24:26 GMT

v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey) writes:

>>>>I applaud the producers for taking the risk of throwing in a whorehouse,
>>>>I think it's a realistic use of the holodeck technology and I can't
>>>>believe that people aren't abusing holodecks in this way all the time. 

>     _Abusing_?!  Why is it an abuse??

>>>Ah, but I think they are. Remember the episode with the Metamorph? AFter
>>>she was done making Riker's blood boil after he shows her to her cabin, 
>>>Riker tells the bridge, "If you need me, I'll be in Holodeck 9.''

>>>Just what do you think he was going to do in the holodeck???? :-)

>     This is true, but a more telling example came from "Sarek"
>     in the third season.  Wesley and Geordi are working on the
>     swamp the Legaran abmassador is going to sit in when he
>     beams up.  Wesley is itching to go because he has a date
>     with a cute Engineering ensign.  

>     Geordi snaps, "What's your hurry?  You don't honestly think anything
>     is going to happen with Suzanne DuMont, do you?"

>     Wesley returns, "Well at least some of us aren't spending the
>     night with a good book."

>     Geordi: "Let me tell you something, you'd get more action out of
>     a good book than you EVER will out of Suzanne DuMont, and that's
>     a promise."

>     Wesley: "Yeah well, at least I don't find my women on the holodeck!
	
	I think what Wes was talking about in this instance, is Geordi's
recreation of Dr. Leah Brahms in the episode "Booby Trap."  I'm not sure
if Geordi would tell his friends about it, but it is possible.

--
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From: v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Tasha Yar, Timelines, etc.
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:04:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <dy!n1_f.keith@netcom.com>, keith@netcom.com (Keith Mason) writes...
> 
>IMO, I don't believe Sela is Tasha's daughter, but rather Tasha herself,
>either brainwashed or hating the federation because they like the Klingons.
>Saying that she's Tasha's daughter makes it easier for her to not be questioned
>by Enterprise crew.
> 
i know it's only IMO, but gee, she looks really great for being in her 
40's/50's if it IS really Tasha...  :) 
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   sandra guzdek + username: v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu + til 28 Aug 1992 
       6037 Devlin Avenue + Niagara Falls, NY + 14304 + after 28 Aug 1992 
    "Higher emotions are what separate us from the lower orders of life... 
                  Higher emotions, and table manners."
                       --- Deanna Troi, _Imzadi_
From: rbeck@mordordseg.ti.com (Ron Beck)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: The Measure of a Man
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:51:27 GMT
Reply-To: Christopher.Ward@dseg.ti.com
Organization: When I get time...

In article <10173@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk>, imcc@cs.strath.ac.uk (Iain McCord) writes:
|> Timothy W. Lynch (tlynch@cco.caltech.edu) wrote:
|> : On the other side of the coin, if the android you make *is* sentient, what
|>                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|>   That was the other possible get out that Data had.  Even if starfleet had
|> decided that he was property, they would have to show that he belonged to
|> them.  It would be interesting to find out if he had been receiving a regular
|> pay packet whilst employed by SF.
|> : Tim Lynch
|> -- 
|> 
|> 		~~~~~/\~~~~~
|> Iain McCord	~~~~/()\~~~~	Tue Aug 18 19:43:35 WET DST 1992
|> 		~~~~~~~~~~~~

This thought had been pursued in one of the other r.a.s boards.  I believe
(along with several other readers) that Data was *found* on his home planet
and *activated* by those who found him.  In this case, maritime law states
that the "salvage recovered" belongs to those who did the recovering.  Thus
Data was a machine that was salvaged from a dead planet.

Now, is Data a life form?  Is he sentient?  In one of the episodes, the
Enterprise crew were trying to determine if they found a life form on a planet
that was being Terraformed.  One of the criteria was that the organism could
reproduce.  Well, Data did produce Lul (sp?).  And he is self-aware and he is
able to adapt to a changing situation.  So, is he a life form?  Well, if the
judge says so...who am I to disagree!  Just MHO! 
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From: u910779@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Rob Torok)
Subject: How is 'Spiner' pronounced?
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 00:26:29 GMT

Well you read it in the header, is it pronounced 'Spinner' or 'Spine-er'?

Thanks,
Rob
From: v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Timescales : TOS & TNG ??
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:21:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug14.124726.20211@gdr.bath.ac.uk>, ccspjs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Pete J Suters) writes...
> 
>  This is almost certainly a FAQ, but how many years after TOS (or
>the movies) is TNG set?.  It's got to be well over 22 years, as the 
>Enterprise C featured in Yesterday's Enterprise, and there is
>still the Galaxy Class Enterprise B to take into consideration.
>  Either the 1701-B didn't last long, or it had to be a fair number
>of years between the two series.

a zillion people will probably tell you this, but TNG first season is set 80 
years after TOS (season 6... 86?).

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   sandra guzdek + username: v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu + til 28 Aug 1992 
       6037 Devlin Avenue + Niagara Falls, NY + 14304 + after 28 Aug 1992 
    "Higher emotions are what separate us from the lower orders of life... 
                  Higher emotions, and table manners."
                       --- Deanna Troi, _Imzadi_
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From: v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: SEX ON THE HOLODECK (was: DS9!!  UGH!!)
Summary: About fucking time!
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:52:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

>>>I applaud the producers for taking the risk of throwing in a whorehouse,
>>>I think it's a realistic use of the holodeck technology and I can't
>>>believe that people aren't abusing holodecks in this way all the time. 

     _Abusing_?!  Why is it an abuse??

>>Ah, but I think they are. Remember the episode with the Metamorph? AFter
>>she was done making Riker's blood boil after he shows her to her cabin, 
>>Riker tells the bridge, "If you need me, I'll be in Holodeck 9.''

>>Just what do you think he was going to do in the holodeck???? :-)

     This is true, but a more telling example came from "Sarek"
     in the third season.  Wesley and Geordi are working on the
     swamp the Legaran abmassador is going to sit in when he
     beams up.  Wesley is itching to go because he has a date
     with a cute Engineering ensign.  

     Geordi snaps, "What's your hurry?  You don't honestly think anything
     is going to happen with Suzanne DuMont, do you?"

     Wesley returns, "Well at least some of us aren't spending the
     night with a good book."

     Geordi: "Let me tell you something, you'd get more action out of
     a good book than you EVER will out of Suzanne DuMont, and that's
     a promise."

     Wesley: "Yeah well, at least I don't find my women on the holodeck!"

     Geordi (deadly): WHAT DID YOU SAY?

       This is the point where Riker breaks it up.
From: obrien@netcom.com (Robert O'Brien)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Old Model Kit from hell
Date: 16 Aug 92 07:03:38 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

In article <IeWkxj600VAtJAV40b@andrew.cmu.edu> Robert Edward Timlin <rt16+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>     Actually, isn't the original kit from ST:TMP, with lights and all, sort of
>valuable? I remember asking about it at a con once and getting a quote of
>$100+ (and then actually seeing one, still in the shrink wrap, for that price).

"Let's be careful out there"  

As a model kit collector (since before there was a TOS) I think I should
warn the readers of this thread that shrink-wrap machines cost maybe $100.
Yes, I've been burned by private "collectors" but not very badly. If you
investigate *model* events and not just *sf* events, you may find that $100+
kit for maybe $30.
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From: jeffery@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (JEFFERY ERIC ROBERT)
Subject: NASA FTP Site
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:02:50 GMT

I know that anonymous FTP sites need a login password, but I tried that and
it didn't work, it said password invalid.  I believe that the answer to
the problem is that the site was always full, it is popular.  Thanks to all
that responded, I got back on.  


-- 
"What is happiness, after all, but the fleeting, transitory butterfly of an
emotion that is impossible to catch and hold for long before it flies away"
             Margaret Weis "Star of the Guardians" Volume 3
    Eric Jeffery (jeffery@ucsu.colorado.edu) StarBase Express (303)450-2454
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: johne@iti.gov.sg (Dr. John S. Eickemeyer)
Subject: Prime Directive: Exact Wording?
Keywords: Prime Directive, Kant, Moral Philosophy 
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, Singapore.
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 04:33:16 GMT

My wife and I were discussing different possible examples which she could use 
for the Moral Philosophy (especially Kant) course she is teaching, and the 
subject of the Prime Directive came up.  My question: what is the exact wording 
of the Prime Directive?  (Please also give the source of your quotation.)

Live long and prosper,

- John :)

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Dr. John S. Eickemeyer                                          johne@iti.gov.sg
Member of Technical Staff                                          (65) 772-0406
Information Technology Institute     "He will never fail you nor forsake you..."
Singapore 0511                                                       - Deut 31:8
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From: Rannou@info.polymtl.ca (Patrick Rannou)
Subject: Re: That which makes a fan cringe
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal, Canada
	<1992Aug21.162609.22575@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> <64406@cup.portal.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 18:48:07 GMT

In article <64406@cup.portal.com> TheMadDoctor@cup.portal.com (Shane Derek Killian) writes:

...
   They probably figured that out in Assignment: Earth. Spock said that
   he and Kirk were just a part of what happened. And in "A Matter of Time,"
   Picard finally decided that everything he does shapes the future, and
   so lost all qualms about asking "future boy" (don't remember the character
   name) for help.

It was Max HeadRoom!!! ;-)


Pat.
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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: st-tos 25th anniv. ga
Date: 16 Aug 92 23:47:32 EST
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

>        What key do you hit to get a display of the damage done to your
>opponent's ship???  I got it once but couldn't do it again.

I believe it is right in the documentation.  Why don't you give it a
try?  Oh, silly me, you PIRATED the game right???  Should have
guessed...


-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Jason Wong
Calling from Markham, Ontario CANADA.  It's not cold though!  :-)
INTERNET: bernie.wong@canrem.com

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From: obrien@netcom.com (Robert O'Brien)
Subject: Re: What would you do with the power of the Q ?
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 05:51:12 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Summary: I'd cut down on crossposting!
Keywords: The Q,continum,The Force

thompson@enuxva.eas.asu.edu (Albert Thompson III (Al)) writes:
>Yes! What would you do with the Power of the Q?

I'd create a special hell for netters who repeatedly and/or flagrantly
violate the netiquette guides, and send them all there for a very long time,
after which they could return to their former time and place, I hope, as
much more considerate members of this community.


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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: Guinan, Earth, and Garter Belts
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:22:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.132939.29090@cbfsb.cb.att.com> mikeh@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (michael p.herlihy) writes:
>In article <1992Aug15.224311.12157@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Sean C. Duncan, Idiot) writes:
>>Just a thought...
>>
>>We know that Guinan is on Earth in 1893 or whatever, but how long she....
>
>
>Something else struck me about Guinan when my local TV station
>re-broadcast BOBW I&II.  Guinan must know that the Big-E survives
>the encounter with the Borg.

Why? (beyond the obvious fact that she's some kind of pandimensional
being.)


>She meets Jean-Luc after the encounter with the Borg.  Which brings
>up the question.  What is she doing on the Big-E?

Umm, she was on the ship well before the E's first encounter with the
Borg.


>She has a pep talk with Riker before the battle. Is she interfering
>with history to defeat the Borg?


I don't follow your chronology.


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From: jeffery@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (JEFFERY ERIC ROBERT)
Subject: Re: Michael Dorn
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 05:43:41 GMT

>>I think Gates McFadden also had a very short scene as Jack Ryan's wife in 
>>"Hunt for Red October."

Do we have to get into this thread again.  We all just got done discussing
past, and other, roles of the TNG actors.  Look through the old mail messages
please.  Don't submit us regulars to this ridiculous discussion again. PLEASE!

-- 
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anything like Uncle Sam"- Data  |StarBase Express (303)450-2454 (104/735)
From: cegtitd@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Dodd)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: The Cage
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:49:01 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <9208201900.AA25782@tyrell.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM) ottoh3@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Otto Heuer #3) writes:
)
)Tony Bell writes:
)
)| The Beeb showed (for the first time on British Network Television, wow!)
)| the 1st ST pilot (The Cage) last night. It was good to the old
)| trek again after seeing the hi-tech STTNG and movies recently. Whatever
)| happened to Jeffrey Hunter? My brother was watching The Cage with me and
)| he said that he (Hunter) must be kicking himself about for not
)| carrying on with ST.
)
)I believe he died in a motorcycle acident shortly after The Cage was shot
)(or at least before the second pilot was shot).

But I thought that Jeffrey Hunter played Capt. Pike in "The Menagerie"
as well.  Is this not so?

Tim
-- 
"It is still an unending source of surprise for me to see how a few
scribbles on a blackboard or on a sheet of paper could change the
course of human affairs."   -- Stanislaw Ulam
Tim Dodd, Research Scientist, Georgia Tech  cegtitd@prism.gatech.edu
From: TheMadDoctor@cup.portal.com (Shane Derek Killian)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Worf's moral dilemma
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 15:58:44 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>I'm not sure why you see this as contrary to the way Worf thinks.  He is
>often written as driven by the concept of honor.  Honor may seem difficult
>at times to comprehend.  Worf refused to directly save an enemy and
>the captain recognized that Worf had every right to determine what to do
>with his body.  If "blood" has an important meaning to Worf (and it may
>considering the Klingon feelings regarding families), then his refusal
>to give it to an enemy that he has a deep hatred for makes sense.

Remember, too, that the feelings went both ways. The Romulan said he
would rather die than pullute his body with "Klingon filth."


TheMadDoctor@cup.portal.com | "One day, I shall come back; yes, I shall
(Shane Derek Killian)       | come back. Until then, let there be no
                            | regrets, no tears, no anxieties. Just go
FIDO: Shane Killian         | forward in all your beliefs, and prove to me
      1:151/2308            | that I am not mistaken in mine."
                            |                                 --Doctor Who
From: wilde@husc9.harvard.edu (Robert Wilde)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: the "darkness" of DS9 (was: Re: TREKIES)
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:26:18 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <55715@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> jan@oas.olivetti.com writes:
>and I loved "The Gift" -- that one did some subtle exploration in-between 
>moments of hitting one on the head with the message.  

You sure that's the correct title?
Bob
-- 
|                      | 
|Robert Wilde          | All science is physics or stamp-collecting.
|wilde@husc.harvard.edu|   -Ernest Rutherford
|                      | 
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From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: Bios from 'Conumdrum' (was Is LaForge Black?)
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:54:19 GMT

In article <92224.120048DFE100@psuvm.psu.edu> <DFE100@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>>1 & 2: Beverly and Wesley Crusher.  We know nothing about their background
>>whatsoever.

>Bev was born at Copernicus City, Luna on 13 October 2324.  Her parents names
>were Paul and Isabel Howard.  She entered Starfleet Academy in 2342 and
>graduated in 2350 (all information gleaned from _Conundrum_).


I'm not sure we should take the information presented in Conumdrum as
the truth.  It may very well *be* the truth, but the information
presented was from an affected computer, and (to me at least) is
therefore suspect.


-- 
'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
                         Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
                         Space Telescope Science Institute
                         Baltimore, MD   21218
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