HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mtoy@mycool.asd.sgi.com (Michael Toy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Getting Some source or pointers re: GLX library port to RS6k
Keywords: RS/6000, Mixed Mode programming
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:25:39 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mycool.asd.sgi.com

In article <1asa4dINN488@ef2007.efhd.ford.com> smd@sl0091.srl.ford.com (Steve Dahmen) writes:
>Mixed Mode Gurus,
>We are trying to build a mixed mode program destined eventually for OpenGL
>that has to run on both the SGI machines and the RS/6000.  I was delighted
>to find the source to the Glx[M]Draw widget in ~4Dgifts.  And it will port
>fine to the RS/6000, except that it makes a call to GLXgetconfig().

It also calls GLXlink() and GLXwinset(), which you also do not have on
an RS/6000.  IBM has a version of the 3.2 release of the IRISGL, and
the mixed model calls are part of the 4.0 release of the IRIS GL.

Is there a way on the RS/6000 to begin GL drawing in an arbitrary X
window?  If not, there is probably no way you will be able to get the
mixed model widget running on that old GL.
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From: rainer@spot.Colorado.EDU (Rainer Malzbender)
Subject: Re: OpenGL Printers?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:23:50 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.161705.17756@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> shenkin@avogadro.barnard.columbia.edu (Peter S. Shenkin) writes:
>Right now, all techniques that I am aware of for printing a 3D image
>involve passing a bitmap -- embedded in PostScript or in some other
>protocol -- to a printer. This results in huge files (especially for

Well, there is an ugly way to print simple drawings - you can use the
feedback routines to get the 2D coordinates of 3D vectors after they've
gone through the graphics pipeline and then output them as Postscript.
I've done this for simple things just to see how it works. Asking a
printer to understand GL would make for either an expensive printer
containing a geometry engine, or a very slow one, I would think.

-- 
Rainer Malzbender
Post-doc, Physics
U. of Colorado, Boulder (303)492-1366           rainer@boulder.colorado.edu
From: mikes@bioch.ox.ac.uk (Michael Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: setting up news
Date: 6 Oct 92 10:51:55 GMT
Organization: Department of Biochemistry, University of Oxford
Originator: mikes@nmrf.bioch



How do I do this?  I have xrn working fine, but this needs Pnews and
inews and stuff to be able to post articles ... where can I get
these from?

Cheers

Mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: trumbull@allegro.unx.sas.com (Ed Trumbull)
Subject: Re: 3rd RFD: comp.sys.sgi reorganization
Originator: trumbull@allegro.unx.sas.com
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:47:57 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <32806@adm.brl.mil>, ras@unipress.com (Ray Schnitzler) writes:
|> 3)	Automatically reject any mail to info-iris@brl.mil, providing info on
|> the various info-iris-<group-name> aliases.

   This might be a better way to handle the mailing list problem, if it's easy
to do.
-- 
Ed Trumbull <trumbull@unx.sas.com>      
SAS Institute, Inc.      SAS Campus Drive   Cary, NC    27513   USA    
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: rainer@spot.Colorado.EDU (Rainer Malzbender)
Subject: Re: R4k Indigo memory
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:52:32 GMT

In article <32796@adm.brl.mil> fernholz@hep.physics.mcgill.ca (Richard Fernholz) writes:
>Is R4k Indigo memory available from 3rd party vendors at this time or within
>the next three months?

Legacy Systems International, (303)469-6114 will sell you a 64 MB upgrade
for the R4000 Indigo for $2650.

-- 
Rainer Malzbender
Post-doc, Physics
U. of Colorado, Boulder (303)492-1366           rainer@boulder.colorado.edu
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From: laubner@ipk.fhg.de (Guido Laubner)
Subject: POSIX on Silicon Graphics ?
Summary: Does Silicon Graphics support POSIX.1 ?
Keywords: POSIX posix sgi
Organization: IPK Berlin, Inst. fuer Produktionsanlagen- und Konstruktionstechnik der FHG
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 10:06:41 GMT


Hi,
i'm working with different partners in a european r&d - project for
robot simulation. Currently, we are studying whether the POSIX.1 standard
fulfills our requirements as an independent interface layer to operating 
system-dependent funcionalities.  Because there's a lot of different machines
and operating systems involved, i (badly) need some information on POSIX
on certain platforms.
One plattform is Silicon Graphigs. Here are my questions :

1. Does Silicon Graphics support POSIX.1 ?

   I have to use the following system calls ( as specified in POSIX.1 ) :
      - creat     ( Creates a new file or rewrites an existing one )
      - unlink    ( Removes a directory entry )
      - open      ( Opens a file )
      - close     ( Closes a file )
      - read      ( Reads from a file )
      - write     ( Writes to a file )
      - fork      ( Creates a process )
      - execve    ( Executes a file )
      - wait      ( Waits for process termination )
      - waitpid   ( Waits for process termination too )
      - sigaction ( Examines and changes signal action )
      - kill      ( Send a signal to a process )
      - pipe      ( Creates an interprocess channel )

2. If Silicon Graphics does not support POSIX.1, is it possible to simulate
   POSIX.1 - systemcall behaviour with existing systemcalls ?

3. If Silicon Graphics does not support POSIX.1, do they want do to so ?
   Are there any anouncements ? When will they do ?

4. Is Silicon Graphics' os like sys5-style or bsd-style unix ?

I thank you for any help, hints or comments one this questions.
Please reply via email. Thanks a lot !!
                                                Guido
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Guido Laubner                          Guido.Laubner@ipk.fhg.dbp.de
IPK Berlin                             Voice : +49 30 39006166
Dept. Robot Systems Technology
Pascalstrasse 8-9
1000 Berlin 10
Germany
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From: story@sgi.com (David (Duis) Story)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: QMS/100 Printer Driver
Date: 3 Oct 92 01:35:25 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Sep22.151131.15556@syma.sussex.ac.uk> johnu@syma.sussex.ac.uk (John E. Upham) writes:
>Do the IRIS/INDIOG's have a QMS100 printer driver and, if so, how do
>I invoke it ?

No, but it may work with a different printer driver.  You have two
choices: try to use the "Generic PostScript" driver in 4.0.1 and
later, or try using one of the color postscript drivers in
Impressario, SGI's new add-on printing package.

Cheers,

David Story                        	        Silicon Graphics, Inc.
story@bent.wpd.sgi.com				Mountain View, California

I've changed my name, so duis@sgi.com may bounce, please use story@sgi.com.
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From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: On-line manual browser
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 01:38:01 GMT

In <1992Sep28.192317.27928@leland.Stanford.EDU> dhinds@leland.Stanford.EDU (David Hinds) writes:

| I set up an Indigo R4000 for someone in our department last week, and
| looked through some of the new demo stuff (the "Tour").  In one part,
| there is a screen snapshot of a program called InSight(?), which is
| described as a hypertext manual searcher/browser.  According to the
| demo, it comes with the text for all the standard Iris manuals (and
| I'd guess others could be added).  It is described as if it is already
| available, but I couldn't find it on the IRIX 4.0.5F CD that came with
| the machine.  Is this a finished product, or soon-to-be-released?  Is
| it going to be part of the standard IRIX distribution or will it be
| sold as a separate product?

Insight (they may change the product name before they ship it, for all
I know) is supposed to ship 'soon' (i.e., sometime in the next quarter
or two).  Hopefully one of the people who is more involved with it
can say more.

| The 4.0.5F release also includes some new multimedia stuff (the movie
| stuff) that wasn't on the 4.0.5A CD.  The 4.0.5F CD is marked as being
| specific for R4000 Indigo and Reality Engine systems; does that mean
| that there won't be a general distribution of these tools until the
| next release of IRIX?

The copies I saw were *not* so marked.  It simply said "Indigo", not
"Indigo R4000".  That was deliberate.  It is fully supported on the
r3k Indigo.  In fact, some of the digital media stuff (our preferred
name for "our" concept of multimedia) is stuff we have promised various
Indigo owners for some time.

| Finally, is the old(er) 3.1 compiler CD equivalent to the new 4.1
| development option CD?

I've never seen a CD labeled 3.1 compilers.  The compilers shipped
with 4.0.5 (maint_dev, maint_c) are the 2.20 (also known as 2.40)
compilers, which are bug fixed versions of the 4.0.1 compilers, with
additions/changes for r4k systems.

The 4.1 IDO has the 3.10 compilers on it, and is more ANSI compliant,
etc.  I suppose that some beta copies of this may have gone out with
a label that said 3.1, but I don't think so.
--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
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From: calvin@dinkum.mti.sgi.com (Calvin Vu)
Subject: Re: what is libisam.a ?
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:04:24 GMT

In <1992Sep29.213646.19436@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz> russell@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Russell Fulton) writes:

| What exactly is libisam.a and where are the routines documented.
| 
	libisam.a is used to support Fortran Keyed Access I/O.  Its
routines are not documented except those functionalities available
via Fortran.

| I found it by accident when I typed -lisam instead of -lcisam. The
| latter is Informix's CISAM library. The load completed without problems
| but the database open gave strange errors. libisam.a clearly contains a
| 'compatible' isam library, if it does everthing that CISAM does then we
| may well drop CISAM. 
| 
| My best guess is that it is an older version of CISAM. That would
| explain some of the odd errors I got. Can someone confirm this?
| 
	It is an old version of CISAM but since it is tuned to support
Fortran I don't think you would like to use it in place of CISAM,
especially without any documentation.

| Cheers, Russell.
| -- 
| Russell Fulton, Computer Center, University of Auckland, New Zealand.
| <rj_fulton@aukuni.ac.nz>

- calvin
--
Calvin H. Vu	
calvin@sgi.com   
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From: apm@kikka.hut.fi (Antti Miettinen)
Subject: Indigo and Kinetics don't like each other - Help!
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:39:40

We have a problem with our Indigo and a Kinetics-box. They don't seem
to like each other.

We have our own subnet (130.233.204) for our laboratory in which we
have the Indigo, some X-terminals, some PC's and the Kinetics-box
which is handling the traffic from and to our Mac-net (Appletalk). A
PC with two ethernet cards acts as a router to outside world. The
problems arise when the Kinetics box is communicating with addresses
outside our subnet. When there is this kind of traffic (someone using
a Mac logs to a machine outside our subnet) the Indigo is practically
unusable in anything which involves networking. Tests with ping might
lose practically every packet when the traffic is heavy.

The software and the Kinetics-box itself are quite old. The box thinks
that it is in a true B-class network (netmask 255.255.0.0). When the
box wants to communicate with addresses in 130.233-net (which may be
outside our subnet) it just sends an ARP-request which is answered by
the PC which acts as a router between our subnet and outside world. This
might be the problem for our Indigo. Could it be trying to answer the
ARP-queries to the extent that other network traffic suffers terribly?

Is there a way to tell the Indigo to ignore the problematic packets?
I've been trying to use ipfilterd to just ignore the whole Kinetics
but even though the filtering seems to work (ping no longer reaches
the Kinetics) the network slowdown does not go away.

If the problem can't be the ARP-queries then it might be the
broadcasts of the Mac-net. Does the Indigo react to the broadcasts of
AppleTalk (EtherTalk? eh? whatever). I've been told that the Kinetics
sends those broadcasts to other Kinetics-boxes directly if it knows
their addresses but it may also send them as directed broadcasts to
the broadcast address of our subnet and to others (which ought to be
routed by the PC). I've also been told that old Suns used 0-broadcasts
and sent all standard broadcasts back to the net causing broadcast
storms. Could there be some historic "service" in Irix like this that
causes problems? Or could the Indigo be directing the broadcasts that
it does not understand back to the net? Any remedy for this?

Ah - and about ipfilterd - it seems to want to use /dev/ipfilter but I
could not find this info in any manual page. Also the manual page for
ipfilterd refers to the manual page of netsnoop which apparently
explains how the filters are defined. I could not find netsnoop on any
CD's we have so is netsnoop part of some optional package? If
ipfilterd is part of the standard system software I think the
documentation should also be. Also I could not get any masking filters
working but this may be due to lack of documentation.
From: mkibler@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Michael K. Kibler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Remote install of 4.0 (Indigo) from 3.3.2 (4D)
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:34:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Oct5.143441.4622
Organization: Washington State University
Originator: mkibler@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu

I have been trying to do a remote install from CD Rom on
and SGI Indigo running 4.0 from a 4D/60T running 3.3.2.
It seems to access the Indigo, but comes back with a message
about no files descriptors found.

Any ideas?

thanks,


-- 
 ---- Mike  ( Radiosity - Virtual Reality - 3D )
 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 Michael K. Kibler        INTERNET:  mkibler@eecs.wsu.edu
 Elect/Compt. Engr. Dept. UUCP    :  ...uunet!eecs.wsu.edu!mkibler
From: LEVINE%FIDLER.decnet@sunman.nwc.navy.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: re: re: dgl des not connect to X term
Date: 2 Oct 92 23:38:55 GMT

>>	I have set up an X-Terminal (NCD 14c) , the first at this site,
>>and I cannot get dgl daemon (dgld) to work with it.
>>	Whenever the user attempts to run a program written useing gl, it hangs
>>for a while then comes up with the following error messages both on the wsh
>>window and in SYSLOG...
>>
>>iris1 Xsession: username: dgl error (TCP connect) Connection refused
>>iris1 Xsession: username: dgl error (default init): default dglopen(X1:0,4) \
>>	return -127
.
.
>>is this a problem in IRIX and/or the X-Window terminal, and does anyone
>>know of a solution?
>>Michael N. LeVine  Naval Air Weapons Station, China Lake, Ca 93555, USA
>
>An X terminal cannot run GL applications because it does not have GL hardware.
>
>	-P.
>-- 
>************************f*u*cn*rd*ths*u*cn*gt*a*gd*jb*************************
>Peter S. Shenkin, Department of Chemistry, Columbia Univ.,  New York, NY 10027
>(212)854-8402    shenkin@avogadro.barnard.columbia.edu   shenkin@cunixf.BITNET
>*********************** UNIX:  the wave of the present ***********************
	It could be a misunderstanding on my part as to how things play
togeather. As I under stand it, with 4.0.x of IRIX, the base windowing 
system is X with gl being layered on top of X. GL calls are converted to X
and then passed on to the X window manager. I thought I was catching the
output of the X window manager for the X-term after it hab been converted  from
GL.

				user program useing GL
					|
					V
				Daemon to convert GL to X
					|
					V
				    X Manager
					|
					V
				     X Term(DISPLAY)

Michael N. LeVine  Naval Air Weapons Station, China Lake, Ca 93555, USA
Internet: levine%fidler.decnet@nwc.navy.mil
(619) 939-2614  avn  437-2614 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: betsy@vesuvius.esd.sgi.com (Betsy Zeller)
Subject: workspacetags problems
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:51:04 GMT


As some posters have noted, there have been
problems with the workspacetags mail alias. (This
is one of the ways to aquire a set of identifying
tag numbers for your application and data files,
so you can make unique workspace icons.) We
are working on fixing this problem. In the mean
time, you can call 1-415-335-1229 and leave
a request for tag numbers. This number
is checked every day, so you can expect fast
turnaround.

Betsy Zeller
betsy@sgi.com
From: rovero@wake.oc.nps.navy.mil (Josh Rovero)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: SGI Fortran and List Directed IO
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:37:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School,Monterey CA

I have a number of fortran programs that use list directed IO.
These break when compiled on SGI fortran.  Is there some compiler
flag or method to get compatibility with the "good old way".

The code works fine on Suns, Concurrents, PCs, Amiga.... just not
SGI.  Any hints would be appreciated.

-- 
Josh Rovero   (rovero@oc.nps.navy.mil) | or Internet 5346p@cc.nps.navy.mil 
Department of Oceanography, Code OC/Rv |      Bitnet 5346p@NAVPGS 
Naval Postgraduate School              |              
Monterey, CA  93943   (408) 646-2084   |
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From: steve@europa.esd.sgi.com (Motorin' Flarey Henderson)
Subject: Re: Indigo R4k DMA: 266 Mbytes/s or 266 Mbits/s?
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 20:05:30 GMT

In <1992Oct2.165759.7695@virtuoso.uucp> chris%virtuoso@uunet.uu.net (Chris Cressy) writes:

>The Digital Media Overview Technical Report from SGI states on pg. 2
>that the Indigo R3k GIO32 bus runs at a speed of 133 megabits/sec.

>Elsewhere in SGI product literature, I see many references to the R4k
>and R3k buses having 266/133 "MB/s" DMA, respectively.  My SGI sales
>rep has assured my that MB is really MegaBytes and that the
>Technical Report is in error.

>Could anyone at SGI confirm the Indigo DMA rate for me?

Sure.  The GIO bus on both the R3k and R4K runs at 33MHZ with Starter
graphics (25MHZ with Elan).  During a burst mode DMA, you get 32 bits
transfered each clock cycle, or 33Mwords/sec, or 132MBytes/S.  This
slows down to 100MBytes/S with an Elan board.  This is true for both
R3K and R4K Indigo, as they both use a 32 bit GIO bus running at the
same rate.  The R3K Indigo uses SGI's GIO-32 mode, where the R4K Indigo
uses GIO-64 mode.  Both modes are similar, but the handshake signal
timings are slightly different.  GIO-64 also allows a 64 bit wide bus for
future products.  The R4K Indigo only uses 32 bits.  A full 64 bit wide
bus would be able to acheive 264Mbytes/s, which is probably why SGI 
marketing got confused in their brochures...

>-- 
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>Chris Cressy, (703) 243-1695  
>StellaCom, Inc. / Advanced Television Support Group, Arlington, VA
>E-mail:	...!uunet!virtuoso!chris or chris%virtuoso@uunet.uu.net


--
steve valin		steve@sgi.com
	   	  It's like deja vu all over again...
From: dittrich@milton.u.washington.edu (Dave Dittrich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: anyone else getting 2 copies 4DWM running at the same time?
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:29:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: milton.dittrich.717877799
Organization: University of Washington

orman@iastate.edu (David L Orman) writes:

>Is anyone else getting 2 copies 4DWM running at the same time?

>I doesnt happen consistantly and really slowsa things down when it does
>happen, any ideas on why or how to prevent it?

Yes, I have seen this same problem.  No, I don't have any idea why.
(Running IRIX 4.0.2/4.0.5 on Indigo, w and w/o XS24 board.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: fkmofg@bhpmhaw.bhp.com.au (Glenn Moffett)
Subject: Support for Exabyte Unit with 10-20gig compression
Keywords: exabyte compression
Organization: BHP Minerals International Exploration
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 04:00:40 GMT


	We had ordered an exabyte unit with 10-20gig compression with a Crimson 
from a Silicon Graphics Agent - West-Prime ( who are now history ).  The 
order was re-done with Silicon Graphics in Sydney.  We received everything 
except the exabyte.  The Melbourne support office obtained a demo model from 
exabyte and declared that they could not suppport it - because the could not
get it working - fair enough.  So we have no exabyte :-(.

	I'd rather not get a 8500 unit if support for the above mentioned unit
is around the corner.  Is there any plans to support the unit?  And/or is there 
some {un,}offical channel though which to get the "wheels rolling/spinning" for
it to be supported?
-- 
--
Glenn Moffett 	
BHP Engineering - Mining Services. Perth,  Australia.
Phone   :  +61-9-426-5649
Fax     :  +61-9-426-5670
E-mail  :  glennm@bhpmper.bhp.com.au		
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From: paul@baroque.Stanford.EDU (Paul Ning)
Subject: ***** 4D/80GT FOR SALE *****
Organization: Stanford University
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:06:18


CPU : 		16MHz IP4 
Graphics :	GT with alpha planes
Memory : 	16MB
Disk :		380MB ESDI
Tape :		60MB SCSI
Monitor :	19" color
SW Installed :	IRIX 4.0.1
		NFS, FORTRAN

Tapes and manuals not included (although we have older 4.0 tapes and
3.X manuals we'd be glad to part with).

Please send inquiries and bids via e-mail.  Thanks.

- paul

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Paul Ning                           U.S. mail : P.O. Box 9738
Dept. of Elec. Engr.                            Stanford, CA 94309-9738
Stanford University                    e-mail : paul@kaos.stanford.edu
From: billabs@nic.cerf.net (Bill Romanowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Why xpsview cann't find Palatino font ?
Summary: Loading Type 1 fonts without a floppy
Keywords: Indigo Type1
Date: 3 Oct 92 04:41:35 GMT
Organization: CERFnet


> You can also snag IBM PC format Adobe TypePacks
>on 3.5" floppies and use the FontInstaller utility sent out on the
>Indigo HotMix CD to install those on your SGI.

Is there any clever hack to load my Adobe Fonts with (or without)
the HotMix font installer if I don't have a floppy? I can get the
file off the floppy and on to the system but the installer seems
grumpy if it can't see a floppy out there (cuz' I don't have one)!

bill romanowski
cookware/prairie research


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