From: 2ftqkiln@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: aga chipset for amiga
Date: 13 Sep 92 14:16:22 CDT
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Sep13.060958.11432@nntp.uoregon.edu>, ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu (Gregg Giles) writes:
> In article <1992Sep12.133618.42933@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> 2ftqkiln@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>>> 
>>I'm not an engineer so this may not be feasible, but why couldn't they
>>sell an AGA board that fit in the CPU slot of the A3000 and sell it
>>for $200-$300? I would buy it! Or throw the AGA onto the 040 card and
>>sell it for $1000-$1200?  The A3000 is full 32-bit except for the ECS 
>>so why couldn't you put them in????? I hope commodore either comes out
> 
>    The A3000 has a 32-bit bus for Zorro III, but the interfaces that the
> custom chips have with the Chip RAM bus is still 16-bits. The AGA chipset
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So what!!! If you read my post i (above) said to put the AGA on a CPU slot
card or a Zorro III card and you can easily put 2megs of chip ram on 
the card that is pure 32bit.  I'm talking about completely skipping
the chipset (ignoring it) that is in there now.  Like i said, I don't
know if this is possible but if it isn't then give me REASONS not 
, don't just say that their not pin cpompatible or that the old
is 16bit. I Already KNOW That and that was the reason for my post!

> has a complete 32-bit interface with the Chip RAM bus. 
>    Someone from CATS said it best: if you have a 4-cyclinder car, you can't
> just add four more cylinders and have a V8. It just doesn't work that way.
>    The AGA >>>requires<<< the extra bandwidth that the A3000 motherboard
> does not offer. Additionally, the Lisa chip is NOT pin-compatable with ECS.
> This isn't a minor upgrade people, this is a major overhaul of the Amiga
> graphics chips. 

No kidding!!

> 
>>with the AGA for the A3000 or offers an upgrade path!!! Thats why i 
>>bought the A3000 in the first place because with the 32-bit architecture
>>and CPU slot it supposedly wouldn't become obsolete for a VERY long
>>time. I feel used.:( :) 
> 
>    Pooh-pooh. I'm sorry you feel used, but nobody held a gun to your head
     ^^^^^^^^^
I put the smiley face afterwards JUST so i wouldn't get a response like
this.....

> and made you get an Amiga 3000. And Commodore doesn't have a moral obligation
> to supply you with major motherboard upgrades at little expense to you. 
> Commodore is a business, and technology is a business in which last year's
> model is outdated as soon as it hits the shelves. You should realize this
> BEFORE you buy any computer. 
  ^^^^^^^^^
Funny, I thought that was why they put the CPU slot in the machines
in the first place, so that the computer wouldn't be outdated within 
a year or two.(Outdated in more is to be expected) But i ftheir 
not even going to give me a reason to use it then why put it
there in the first place................OK so I'm whining a little
now, so what!!
> 
> 
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> Gregg Giles (Dynamix, Inc.)                 BIX: ggiles 
> All opinions expressed are my own.          Internet: ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu
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