HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jdrew@cryo.rain.com (Jim Drew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Emplant ideas
Date: 20 Nov 92 05:33:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: cryo.jdrew.0jm1
Organization: Cryogenic Software - Portland, OR
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.26 beta (Oct 19 1992)


In <1992Nov18.123240.26736@cs.tu-berlin.de>, franke@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Michael Franke) writes:
> Hello!
> 
> Especially to J.Drew:
> 
> - will C='s A2024 be supported in the future by emplant ???
> - please (!!!) add version-strings to all of your pieces of 
>   software. There were two updates on wuarchive tonite and
>   I wonder which is newer as the lengths of the files in the
>   archives differ. PLEASE!
> 
> greetings michael franke (franke@cs.tu-berlin.de)
The way that the video system is designed, we can use any monitor with
any video board....we just have to create the device driver to do it. 
We'll look into the A2024 support.  :-)


Jim Drew - Vice President, Utilities Unlimited, Inc.
           1641 McCulloch Blvd. Suite #25-124
           Lake Havasu City, AZ  86403
           (602) 680-9004     (602) 680-9006 FAX    (602) 453-9767 BBS
From: swinokur@cellar.org (Steve Winokur)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Who has a working EMPLANT?
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:08:45 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

jharris@cup.portal.com (John D Harris) writes:

> >YEAH!!!! Now for some questions:
> >
> >1) Are you running your emulation off a Sybil or Mac disk drive?
> >2) What Version of the Mac you running 6 or 7?
> >3) What is your minimum configuration?
> >4) How slow? Mac slow or slower?
> >5) Are you using 1.3 or 2.0?
> 
> 1.  An AMAX disk.  I can't get my Sybil to work, and there is no place to
> attach a Mac drive.
> 2.  System 6.0.5, although I will try new system versions when I can get
> them.  Does anybody know how System 7 can be xfered through floppies?

Sure, I've got 'em here.  System 7 comes on a bunch of 880K disks. 
Tragically it is -not- possible to install system 7 on a floppy drive, even
at a "minimal" system level.  You can do it on a High Density floppy... but
that's about it...  You can get all the system software off of GEnie, for
example...


.............................................................................
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                           GEnie: S.WINOKUR  -or-
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..................... Amiga: Hey, at least it works! ........................
From: tpang@fraser.sfu.ca (Tsui Ting Debbie Pang)
Subject: Re: Accessing Mac partitions from amiga dos.
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 03:27:15 GMT

[questions and Jim Drew's answers about why AMax doesn't have harddrive
transfer capability DELETED]

I have only up to 2.06 AMaxII, so it doesn't have the harddrive transfer,
but I think the 2.5x updated version has it now, to transfer files on
an Amiga partition. Is it right? (I got to get the 2.51 from ReadySoft
soon :).

So the answer to the question should be YES. AMaxII 2.5x does provide
harddrive transfer. (It says it exists, people who are using please post
to prove it's working also).

David Tse
From: Don_-_Hirschfeld@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Here's how to FTP to/from Wuarchive.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 11:39:33 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Any way to read a txt file while at the ftp prompt without d/l-ing the
readme file?
From: Rudolf_Neuhaus@ouzonix.bo.open.de (Rudolf Neuhaus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Emplant ad
Distribution: world
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:38:26 CET
Organization: Ouzonix Bochum

I got my german magazine called Kickstart yesterday, and there is an ad
about Emplant in there.
It says that Emplant will be shown on the WoC from Nov. 26th-29th in
Frankfurt/Germany.
I will defenately take a look at it then...
Rudy

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From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran)
Subject: CSA Derringer 
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:34:05 GMT

In article <70039@cup.portal.com> drchip@cup.portal.com (MYRON A LIEBERMAN)
writes:

>>>How much is a 25 MHz '030 accelerator going for these days -- $250 list, or
>>>about the same as the Emplant.

>>This is a typo, right? If not, tell me more about what 25 MHz '030 accelerator
>>lists for $250.

>It must be since Krueger offers a 33 MHz 68030 (NOT 68EC030) accelerator with
>a 33 MHz 68882 and a self-contained 68000 for $295 ($337 with 512K of 32 bit
>SRAM memory). A 25 MHz accelerator for almost the same price seems high.

Ahem, Amazing Computing November 1992 (vol 7, no 11), p. 75:

 CSA (Computer Systems Associates)... announced the coming of a new accelerator
 card for the A500 and A2000. This new card, the Derringer, is a 25 MHz, 68030-
 based accelerator that promises A3000 performance for only $249.95. The
 Derringer will support the addition of 1,2,4 or 8 MB of DRAM, together with
 a 50 MHz 68881 or 68882 math coprocessor. Additional 16 and 32 MB DRAM
 upgrades will be possible as future DRAM technology develops... the Derringer
 is a single board, plug-and-play unit. It is completely auto-configuring and
 replaces the 68000 CPU.

Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.emulations:4872 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:19680 comp.sys.amiga.tech:147 sci.electronics:18955
From: wirth@igd.fhg.de (Hanno Wirth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.tech,sci.electronics
Subject: Need Dual Ported RAM chips for C= A2286 Bridgeboard (extraordinary)
Keywords: A2286 Bridgeboard Commodore RAM 2464 dual ported
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:39:26 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: IGD FHG Darmstadt, FRG

Hello out there,

I need a pointer to some RAM chips of the extraordinary kind. The chips are
located on an A2286 Brigdeboard and are (to my knowledge) used as Dual Ported
memory for the communication between the Amiga and the Bridgeboard and for
the screen emulation.
	The chips are labeled '2464-12', so I think they must be 2464 chips
with an access time of 120 ns. As I want to speed up my BB a little, I need
the same type with 100ns or better.
	I couldn't find them with any parts distributor here in Germany (which
I have spoken with - of course there are some more... ). Could any kind and
knowing soul mail me the manufacturer of the chips and/or the manufacturer and
identifier of equivalent chips. Circuit diagrams of the A2286 would also help,
as I have gotten none.

Greetings and thanks in advance,

	Hanno

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From: tpang@fraser.sfu.ca (Tsui Ting Debbie Pang)
Subject: Re: The Emplant Ordeal.
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:23:52 GMT

wwarner@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Art Warner) writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.061524.22572@julian.uwo.ca> magundi@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (john macdonald) writes:

>>I just feel UU has been dishonest in shipping out a non-working
>>product.
>And what would you be saying if they hadn't shipped anything at all?
>Seems to me that UU is "damned if they do, damned if they don't".
>It's a no-win situation that they've gotten themselves into with some of
>you people.  Can't you understand what happened?

I think it is better late than 'non-working when shipped'. I have never
openly complained about it being delay repeatedly. But shipping a non-working
product is worse. So there is a difference, although none is a good thing.
I acknowledge the reason like being pressure from public/paid-customers to
force a premature release, but it's not our fault, they (UU) have too many
empty promises for too many times and too long. 'will ship next week', right!

>They made mistakes.  Probably many of them.  
>They are doing what they can to correct them.
>They *ARE* committed to getting this product working.
>It's just a matter of time.

At least it is not too bad to hear, it' better than they quit the project
or something. Remember what happened to Applied Engineering's high density
floppy drive for Amiga? Somebody bought it and it never worked, finally
struggled to get a refund. The whole product got dumped like a hot potato.
Interestingly, they have one for the older Macintoshes which do not support
high density drive natively. I don't know how this one is, but it's advertised
in many mail-order ads in Mac mags. Any knowledge on that, someone?

>C'ya.
>-- 
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>William "Art" Warner (317-497-1946)      //\
>ex Amiga Student On-Campus Consultant  \X/--\miga makes it happen!
>wwarner@en.ecn.purdue.edu             IBM, Apple, Sun, & Next make it expensive!

I do hope the fixed ver will be stable and good, I'd rather wait till they
clean up the mess. Good luck,

David Tse
From: fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Bridgeboard & mem emul. software
Date: 16 Nov 92 06:51:06 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

In article <1992Nov15.214629.60878@cc.usu.edu>, sl1zm@cc.usu.edu writes:
>>>I read about a software program that will let a Bridgeboard use
>>>expanded or extended (?) ram by emulating it with the Amiga mem.
>> 
>>>What is this program called and where can I get it?
>> 
>> It's called AmigaEMS, and it was just recently uploaded to wuarchive.
> 
	A version is also on FF687.  Let me know if you get it to work.
	BTW, I believe it only emulates expanded mem.

> Well, after looking around on wuarchive for an hour, I never found it...
> what directory is it (or should it) be in??
> 
> James
> 
Fred

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From: cpw8034@rigel.tamu.edu (Alan Wen (409) 693-2924)
Subject: Re: Emplant, sybil, and ???
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:12:00 GMT

In article <18NOV199209102926@oregon.uoregon.edu>, sworkman@oregon.uoregon.edu (Michael Sean Workman) writes...
>You people really seem to be slamming Utilities Unlimited pretty hard.  I
>just saw a guy say that he's giving UU another chance.  After Sybil and now
>Emplant, he'll give them one more... well folks, let's not forget the Super
>Card Ami (or as I like to call it - the Stupid Card Ami).  The 'copy
>anything' hardware copier.  First off, I ordered one (a long time ago) and
>it took them about three months to get it to me.... when I got it I tried
>backing up my workbench disk (just to test out the blazing speed of the DOS
>copy)  Yeah, it was fast.  Real fast, but itsure as hell wasn't a copy of
>Workbench on the other disk.  How am I supposed to believe it will back up
>my expensive software when it won't even backup Workbench?!  I called Jim
>Drew... "It will work better on copy protected disks..."  What the hell
>does that mean?  A disk copier that won't copy totally unprotected disks is
>worthless.  I called and called and finally had to call the Better Business
>Bureau on them (I think THAT'S why they moved from Oregon to Arizona...) I
>finally had to drive 3 hours to their 'place of business'  I was surprised
>I didn't step in horse shit... it was a barn!  Yes, a barn!  Sure it had a
>concrete floor, but nothing changes the fact that it was a barn.  And
>conveniently, the person I needed to see wasn't there and nobody there
>could answer ANY of my questions...  I'm never buying ANY other UU products
>again (and I'm recommending other people against doing so) until I see one
>functioning 100% in front of me and have heard of at least one OTHER person
>getting the same results...  The guy seems like a con artist to me... don't
>be fooled into thinking that this is the first time they've done this...
>the delays, the excuses, it's all well practised! 

Sorry i had to repost the entire message but I couldn't help but roll on the
floor laughing.  I also sent copies of this to some friends.. :-D

This is TRUE humor!  ...in the Seinfields flavor if you ask me!

alan
From: langston@memstvx1.memst.edu (Mark C. Langston)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Who has a working EMPLANT?
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:31:20 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <69713@cup.portal.com>, jharris@cup.portal.com (John D Harris) writes:
> ** Working Emplant **
> U.U. new release of the Emplant software, available as NEWEMP.LHA on their
> BBS, appears to be operational!  The emulator runs on an A2000 with A2630
> accelerator.  It runs slower in 16 color mode than it does in B&W, but it is
> really great to see.  HD and Amiga devices are still not supported, but it
> runs, in color, multitasks, and hasn't crashed yet!


  Okay, so now someone other than Jim has one that's up and running.  Anyone
care to hazard a guess as to which batch of problems everyone will harp on
next?  (I can see it now..."Everything runs flawlessly, but it still won't
bring me breakfast in bed!  JIIIIIIMMMM!")

(take this with a grain of salt...I was feeling a bit sarcastic.  I'm glad to
hear someone has a working version.  Hell, I may just buy one myself now and
sell my Amax.  I need an accelerator anyway.  Here's my excuse to go buy one.
Wonder if the thing works on a 1200? Hmmm..)

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From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Golden Gate 486!!
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:43:27 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

5marte_f@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:

>hello,

>	WOW!! I am in love with the Vortex GoldenGate 486 bridgeboard-LIKE 
>card. If anyone get's a hold of one please post a review or just opinions. I 
>noticed from the specs  (in the latest AMIGAWORLD ad) that it seems better than 
>the similar offering from the other company in the back of the book (sorry but 
>I don't remember thier names- besides... who else makes 486 BB's?). The 
>GoldenGate has a max capacity of 16megs the other 8. 

>	Someone go out and get one ! Try it ! Let us know !!

Before we get too excited, let's not forget one thing: those boards
use Cyrix's 486SLC, not Intel's 486DX.  A 486SLC has a lot of 486 specific 
commands, but is not comparable to a true 486.  I would say it is an 
accelerated 386SX at best.

>			Felix Marte
>		greatly interested in showing up his MESSY DOS friends!
>			5marte_f@spcvxa.spc.edu

Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin
e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu

PS: BTW, I was reading Amiga Format, and came across an article saying
    Commodore has released a new 386sx BB.  According to the article, it
    comes with 2MB of ram, usable by both the BB and the Amiga, and
    only costs #250.  Is that true?  Is this the same board we have been
    talking about for months? or is this a new board?  either way,
    #250 sounds good!  Any hope we can get it for US$400?
From: Opal_Sullen@republik.fidonet.org (Opal Sullen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Good and Bad developers
Distribution: world
Date: 22 Nov 92 19:22:20 PST
Organization: Eiffel Media of Orange County

In a message dated Sun 22 Nov 92 17:18, Michael Witbrock <mjw+@cs.cmu.edu>
wrote:

 MW> The money is not being diverted because, in most
 MW> cases, there was no possibility of it going to readysoft.

hmmm.  myself and several people i know would have gone w/ readysoft's
newest offering were it not for UU baiting us w/ that unbelievable
spec/price sheet for the emplant just as readysoft WAS actually shipping
their product.  we, like many others figured it would be a good idea to
wait.

surely uu's decision to put out that spec/price sheet at that time was
aimed at softening readysoft's sales.  that's playing hardball.  readysoft
makes a solid product, unlike uu, and should capitalize on uu's failures
RIGHT NOW by launcging some kind of special for those that cancel orders w/
uu and buy an amaxII+.  i would LOVE to see this happen.

i admit i would like a multitasking, color mac emulator, but having to go
thru what some people here have is unreasonable.  i would have been
screaming bloody murder if i hadn't gotten a product w/in days of them
charging my card.


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From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett)
Subject: Re: Amouse and Janus 2.1
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:01:38 GMT

In article <37068@cbmvax.commodore.com> givler@bermuda.cbm.commodore.com (Greg Givler) writes:
>Who ever made this promise to anyone. Commodore has to survive or you
>will be computing on a wonderfully powerful paperweight.

   The reason that Commodore is dying in the U.S. is because Commodore has
been in survival mode for the past 10 years.  In an industry as compeititve
as this one, you don't stay alive by trying to survive, you stay alive by
competing.  Companies that try to stay alive are the first to file for
bankruptcy.  Odd, isn't it?  This is called life.

>Greg Givler                 | "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics"
>Commodore Product Assurance | - Mark Twain
>givler@cbmvax.commodore.com |
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From: gpotts@hebb.uoregon.edu (Geoff Potts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: What is final word on emplant and an A3000?
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Date: 23 Nov 1992 23:31:22 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: eeg4.uoregon.edu

In article <3493@carroll1.cc.edu>, pruttman@cerebus.cc.edu (Pete Ruttman)
wrote:
> 
> Does emplant work on an A3000 that has the softrom version of 2.04 yet?  

I phoned UU tech support at about 2:30 pm P.S.T., Mon. Nov. 23 to ask just
this question as I have been unable to get on the BBS (busy signal) and
nothing new has gone up on wuarchive. I talked to a male who said he didn't
know if the patch was done yet. He said that "Jim and Joe had been working
on it all 
weekend and had gone to bed about 5:00 this morning". He also said that
several people had called about not being able to get on the BBS and that
Jim might be "buying time". I took this to mean that the BBS might be
down. Has anyone gotten on?

So, there is all I know. He said that he would be 'going over there this
evening" and that he should have a more definitive answer tomorrow morning.
I decided not to plumb this well any further for information on possible
harddrive support.

--geoff
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From: dewald@plains.NoDak.edu (Eric Dewald)
Subject: Who has the Upgrade to Atonce+ 3.0?
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:21:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

I think the title says it all
Who has the upgrade to Atonce+ 3.0
What are its benifits?
Would someone please upload the upgrade to a FTP site? (since 2.34 is
	at wuarchive)
Thanx in advance,
Eric Dewald
PS - Sorry about the previous upload I can't seem to post news 
     very well, Stupid Unix Account...
PPS - Amazing Computing (e.g. Amazing Confuzing) said that all
      registerd owners of AtOnce, AtOnce Classic, AtOnce+ were shiped
      the upgrade free, Well I'm a registered owner and I haven
      't got anything so please upload it to a ftp site and post
      some news about were it is, thanx!!!
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From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Remember when?
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:57:28 GMT


Remember back in June when Emplant worked with all Amigas, all hard drives,
all 24 bit video boards, and had a 2.04 interface as well?  Remember when 486
emulation for Emplant was going to be available by Christmas?

"Why own all the other computers when Amiga can emulate them all!" (by July)

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From: langston@memstvx1.memst.edu (Mark C. Langston)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: The Emplant Ordeal.
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:32:20 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University



   (here I go again... my mother didn't teach me any better, apparently...)

I'm not going to take sides here, but I would like to point out a few things:

  1)  UU announced Emplant before it was shipping.  This is not unusual.
      (Cases in point: Atari Falcon, Windows NT, etc. etc. etc.)

  2)  People (not everyone) jumped all over Jim when he didn't make his
      shipping deadline.  This is a bit strange, because companies regularly
      miss announced shipment deadlines.

  3)  Some of these people had a right to jump on Jim, because they had
      already paid for the product.  This is odd, and I have no explanation
      for Jim charging people when the product was not ready to ship.

  4)  People ordered the product sight-unseen, with no authoritative
      reviews, first-hand experience, etc.  While this is not unusual, I
      wouldn't suggest it to anyone.

  5)  UU finally shipped prepaid Emplant orders.  Good for them.

  6)  The product did not work as advertised (as of yet).  This was probably
      due to several factors:  pressure to release from those people who
      already paid, general public pressure to release, and quickly declining
      customer base.

  7)  UU is working to fix the software problems the product currently has.
      These fixes are being offered free-of-charge, and UU is doing their
      best to keep the customer base informed of progress while trying very
      hard to fix any problems.

  8)  Customers are becoming irate, and potential customers are shying away.

While these items seem discouraging, I would wager that the people now 
complaining will sing UU's praises if and when the product succesfully 
emulates a Macintosh.  Whether or not the product meets the original specs
is open for debate.  However, many products do not achieve their original
goals.
  Although people with Emplants in their hands have some right to complain,
it ist as though UU did not ship a product, and is not doing anything to 
fix the problems.  If you are really that dissatisfied with the product, send
it back for a refund.  




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