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From: gen5061@husky1.stmarys.ca
Subject: Great Hockey this year!!
Organization: St. Mary's University, Halifax, N.S., Canada
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:43:11 GMT

In article <5521@balrog.ctron.com>, mattb@ctron.com (Matt Brown) writes:
> Matt
> You know, there are so many good things to watch this year. It's like John
> Ziegler was a wicked witch's curse or something, and when he left, 
> everything changed for the better. I must be reading my kids too many
> fairy tales.

  Cool analogy,  a couple of friends and I were so worked up for the 
season to start that we ended up doing 5 hockey pools and we all entered 
every pool that was in the paper.  Eight hockey pools in all.

  That game between Quebec and Philly was a real treat!  I thought the fans
were going to be real bad but everything turned out good, well at least nobody
was hurt.  The score really doesn't tell the tale, it was close game until the
end of the third.  Being a Montreal fan, I am very depressed that the Habs
have to play Quebec 8 times or so.  I just can't see Montreal getting many
points from those games.

  Pittsburg is also an awesome team to watch.  Every time Lemieux touches the
puck I get excited.  I think he has a shot at Gretzky's record of points in 
a season, what was it anyway 215 or 216, something like that anyway.
And all those foreign players are adding to the excitement too.   
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From: au021@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Roland Behunin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: fri/sat satellite schedule
Date: 9 Oct 1992 19:17:57 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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So far for this weekend I have the following games as being televised.
I have included where you might want to look to find the games on "C"
band satellites.  If anybody has any additional TV schedules, it would
help.  I will be trying to get the rest of the schedules I already
have into this database over this weekend, and post sometime.

Also, I have heard rumors that some backhauls may end up on ASC-1.


MO  DA  YR  AWAY......  HOME......  STATION...  BACKHAULS......
10   9  92  NYR         CAPITALS    MSG         G2,G6,S1,T1,S3
10   9  92  NEW JERSEY  PHILY       ESPN        G6,T1,G2,
10  10  92  OTTAWA      QUEBEC      Global      A1-12,A2
10  10  92  BUFFALO     HARTFORD    29          S3,A2,T1,G6,G2
10  10  92  EDMONTON    VANCOUVER   CBC         A1 11,17,19,20
10  10  92  PENGUINS    MONTREAL    KBL         A1,A2
10  10  92  TORONTO     FLAMES      CBC         A1,A2,T1,G2
10  10  92  WINNIPEG    LA          PT          A1,A2,G2,G6,T1
10  10  92  NYR         NJ          MSG         G2,G6,S1,T1,S3

Happy Viewing,

roland

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From: lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: On ice ads
Keywords: Foodland instead of the quote
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:24:54 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

I want to ask your opinion, netters.  How do you feel about on ice advertising?

For those of you who saw the KBL or ESPN broadcast of the Pens-Flyers game,
you saw that Bob Johnson's quote "It's a great day for hockey" has been
removed from the ice.  But what is on the ice (in addition to the Pens 
logo) is the word "Foodland" in bright red.  Foodland is a local grocery store
chain.

I thought this looked rather tacky.  The boards and the rest of the arena are
used for advertising, and that's fine.  There's a lot of revenue to be made
that way.  And I'm sure Foodland paid big bucks to get its' name on the ice.
And Baldwin said in yesterday's Greensburg Tribune Review that this works out,
he'll sell more ice space.  But I think it looks cheesy, and more ads would
make it worse.

I guess I'm being old fashioned.  I just think ads don't belong on the ice.
How does everyone else feel about this issue?

Lori
From: epritcha@s.psych.uiuc.edu (EVAN pritchard)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Winnipeg Jets (WAS = Re: Mediocre Canadian Teams
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:37:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw4Gyq.Iqt
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology

golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:


>I thought Winnipeg could be a contender, but they have started rather
>slowly.  

Hey!  It's only been 4 games.  The season is 84 (ugh) games long.
Still it is 4 games, and I expected (desired) a better showing than
they have had.  LA is one of the teams they have to beat for crying
out loud, and losing to SJ was not good either.  

The season is young, however, and I do have Selanne is pool; he's
scored in each of the 4 games this season.  :-) 

 
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From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Bob Sweeney becomes a Sabre
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:54:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: HMS

In article <Bw0IMM.DAw@acsu.buffalo.edu> rwinkel@acsu.buffalo.edu (Robert Winkel) writes:
>kicking themselves in the ass. I can't wait to see what Sweeney does when
>the Sabres play Boston. 
>
 
I can't wait to see Bob Sweeney's play in February or March. He's very
famous for prolonged winter vacations.
Oh boy, I'll already circled November 11th game in Buffalo on my Bruins'
TV schedule.

-PPV Mark
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: popovich@cs.columbia.edu (Steve Popovich)
Subject: Re: More Thoughts about Flyers-Penguins
Organization: Columbia University
	<1992Oct7.145811.10957@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>
	<1992Oct7.192949.16111@philabs.philips.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:03:34 GMT

> WOW!!!  Anna brought her cellular phone to the game....  Oh-- sorry--
> you said YOUR mom, not OUR mom...

Bite your tongue :-).  Anna has never struck me as the type of person
who would carry one of those things.  Besides, she sits high up in the
Civic Arena, in Section D25 (unless it's changed from last year --
heaven forbid).  The people with the cellular phones sit much lower
down, in the A and B sections.

> those things that shouldn't be done.  However, I also would have given
> Lemoo the gate for four minutes-- two for holding, and two for poor
> acting (i.e., taking a dive-- whatever they officially call it).

I believe they've been calling it "unsportsmanlike conduct", which
description seems accurate to me.  And you're probably right.  I know
they've extended the rule on stick contact above the waist to the
regular season; maybe they should also extend the two-referee
experiment?  At least it might be a little harder two fool two heads
than one, unless one of them is <insert the name of your least
favorite referee here>.

> Here I sit, waiting for the flames on THIS one....

Well, you won't get any from me!  I agree with you!
	-Steve
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From: jaslow@bissun.kodak.com (Russell Jaslow)
Subject: Re: NHL (Cleveland) Trivia Question
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 21:37:20 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.142034.20308@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> migod@turing.toronto.edu (Mike Godfrey) writes:
>
>I don't think the New England Whalers played in Hartford during the WHA 
>days ... anyone remember for certain?
>
They most definitely did play in Hartford.  I use to pick their games up from
Long Island on WTIC, I believe.  Remember when the Civic Center roof 
collapsed?  That was during the WHA days, and they had to play their home
games in Springfield, MA, right up I91, until the arena was fixed.  Perhaps
thats why you thought they didn't play in Hartford.

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From: harrison@mpr.ca (Jeff Harrison)
Subject: Re: How 'bout them Whalers?
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 21:13:06 GMT

>Does anyone know where Jimmy Roberts and Rick Ley are these days?

Rick Ley is Pat Quinn's assistant coach here in Vancouver.
He will take over the coaching duties whenever Pat decides to step
down from the bench, and actually does the coaching when Pat has
to attend GM functions.

Jeff
- sunny (but getting colder) Vancouver, B.C.



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From: terry@btree.uucp (Terry Whalen)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 19:45:48 GMT
Organization: Brooktree Corporation
Subject: Re: Peter Stastny
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: na
Organization: Brooktree Corporation, San Diego
Keywords: 

In article <1992Oct14.023626.24566@eng.umd.edu> david@eng.umd.edu (David Chi-Chung Lu) writes:
>In article <13214@express> currie@Software.Mitel.COM (Kim Currie) writes:
>>I haven't seen Stastny's name in any summaries.  Is he still
>>with the Devils?
>
>Holding out, I believe.
>
>Dave Lu


Now that the Nordiques actually have a team that will win the Adams, and
have a good shot at Lord Stanley's mug, Stasney would like to finish out
his career in Quebec.  Some family reasons also have him wanting to be
in Quebec.

Page is too cheap and the Devils are asking too much for him.

Terry

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From: mfoster@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu (Marc Foster)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Current CHL File
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:47:20 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK
Originator: news@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu


Central Hockey League (established 1992)

5840 S. Memorial Drive
Suite 205
Tulsa, OK  74145
Phone:  (918) 664-8881
Fax:    (918) 664-2215

Founder and President - Ray Miron
Commissioner - Monte Miron
Marketing Director - Jim Goodman
Information Director - Eric Kolb

Six non-affiliated teams play a 60 game schedule extending from early
November to mid March.

Each team is owned by the league, with local intrests controlling day to
day operations.

Each team has a $100,000 salary cap for 17 total players
(16 dress up).

Each team get 11 visas for foreign players.

Unlike the ECHL, players are not limited to three years in the league.

Teams play in Wichita, Tulsa, Oklahoma City, Memphis, Fort Worth, and Dallas.

Future expansion plans include Houston, San Antonio, New Orleans, Omaha,
Albuquerque, and Little Rock.  Houston and San Antonio are nearly a lock for
the 1992-93 season.

TEAMS:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Fort Worth Fire                 | Wichita Thunder
                                          |
Arena:    Tarrant Co. Conv. Cen. (13,500) | Kansas Coliseum (8,906)
Colors:   Red and Black                   | Red and White
GM:       George Branum                   | Bill Shuck
Coach:    Pete Mahavolich                 | Gary Fay
Phone #:  (817) 335-FIRE                  | (316) 264-4625
Season Tix: $300 / $240                   | 
Single Tix: $12 / $10                     |
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          Dallas Freeze                   | Tulsa Oilers
                                          |
Arena:    Fair Park Coliseum (7,490)      | Civic Center (6,923)
Colors:   Black and Teal                  | Blue and Orange
GM:       Tom Koch                        | Jeff D. Lund
Coach:    Ron Flockhart                   | Gary Unger 
Phone #:  (214) 421-PUCK                  | (918) 663-5888
Season Tix: $300 / $240                   |
Single Tix: $12 / $10                     |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Memphis River Kings             | Oklahoma City Blazers
                                          |
Arena:    Mid-South Coliseum (11,065)     | Myriad (13,263) & State Fair Arena 
Colors:                                   | Black, yellow, and red
GM:       Jim Riggs                       | Brad Lund
Coach:    Steve Carlson                   | Mike McEwen
Phone #:                                  | (405) 235-PUCK
Season Tix:                               | $250 / $170
Single Tix:                               | $9 / $6
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Marc
Owner, Oklahoma Stormchasers, Usenet Hockey League  
FAQ contact, Central Hockey League
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Miller
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 00:20:08 GMT

"Miller" was listed as having had an assist in last night's game between
the Washington Capitals and the Toronto Maple Leafs, in the box scores.  Does
someone know if that's Kelly or Kevin Miller?

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GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Wayne Gretzky for Ross and Hart!
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Ray Whitney for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
	Dean Evason for Selke!  Sandis Ozolinsh for Norris!
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Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
From: mre@teal.Eng.Sun.COM (Mike Eisler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: On ice ads
Date: 8 Oct 1992 20:57:14 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: teal
Keywords: Foodland instead of the quote

In article <Bvt6tq.E1w.1@cs.cmu.edu> lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico) writes:
>I want to ask your opinion, netters.  How do you feel about on ice advertising?

Put it this way ... the Sharks jacked up my per-game cost of a season
ticket from $27 to $31 without a comparable increase in the quality of
the product (Coach Kingston has already warned the public that
improvement won't be forthcoming). Tonight, if I find on ice junk, and
if I find that it interferes with my ability to follow the action, I'll
seriously re-evaluate my support of the Sharks. For the kind of money I'm
investing in this team, I can easily buy a satellite dish, drop my
cable-tv hookup (which thanks to Congress will be more expensive
anyway), and focus my support on an NHL team that doesn't practice this
blasephemy. Or start following lacrosse.

I've seen broadcasts of European games and I got headaches watching the
action on 200x100 feet squared of ice blotted with nearly solid black,
dark purple and dark blue.

	-Mike Eisler
	mre@Eng.Sun.Com
From: asalo@katk.Helsinki.FI (SALO ANTTI E)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Ticket prices (NHL matches)
Date: 12 Oct 92 09:13:01 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki, Computing Centre

Hi!
I'd like to know how expensive are the tickets to NHL matches. How much are 
the cheapest, how much the most expensive. Just the "normal" games, not ply-
offs.

Please reply by email to asalo@katk.helsinki.fi

thanks!
From: bouchard@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Marco Bouchard ETUDIANT sept-dec 92)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Nordiques news (7 oct)
Summary: Warriner returns to Windsor
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:17:52 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

Todd Warriner, last June first pick, has been return to his junior team, the
Windsor Spitfires. Page told to the press that he prefers to see Warriner
in Windsor instead of on his fourth trio. In the same way, Page said that
Warriner is asking too much money (500 000$CAN about).

  Other news: Randy Velischek, who no team claimed on the waivers, is going
to Halifax, along with Chris Simon and Herb Raglan. The Nords fired Stephane
Morin.There are still 3 goalies in Quebec: Hextall-Fiset-Cloutier.

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From: kitson@geop.ubc.ca (Denise Kitson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Vancouver news?
Date: 9 Oct 1992 18:09:23 GMT
Organization: Geophysics & Astronomy, U.B.C. Vancouver, Canada
Distribution: world
Reply-To: kitson@geop.ubc.ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: cetus.astro.ubc.ca

The first Canucks home game of the year is tomorrow night(I got tickets...) so I
won't be able to give you a rundown on regular season play until next week.
However...I attended one of the pre-season games(against San Jose) and although it
is difficult to gage a team on the basis of how they play in pre-season, a couple
of players really stood out.

Bure, of course, looks great.  Speed, talent, I wouldn't be surprised for him to
have a good year despite the absence of Igor Larionov.  He is now playing with
Greg Adams at centre, who played left wing the previous season.  I think these
two will really be able to make some good plays, but the most surprising aspect
of this line is the rookie winger Dixon Ward.  He spent 4 years at the University of
North Dakota and really had no trouble making the team this year.  Pat Quinn has
described him as an effective skater, a thinking skater.  He plays with two of the
fastest guys on the team and keeps pace with them.  The game I attended Bure was
first star, Adams second, and Ward third, so it looks like this line has potential
this season.

As for the rest of the team, Nedved, Lidster and Kron are playing out their options
while Ronning, Sandlak, Adams and Momesso are heading for arbitration.  Nedved
really needs to have a good season this year, don't know yet if he can do it.  The
addition of Plavsic on defense this year is a ggod move, he's much improved after
skating with the Olympic team and he's not afraid to shoot the puck.  Another rookie
defenceman, Jiri Slegr, has made the team, seems to get some power play time.  He's
also a quick skater, lots of potential, but is going to need the experience.

Other than that the team looks solid if they stay healthy and McLean puts in another
great season.  Have a great defencemen in Lumme, Linden is generally dependable,
wish I could get rid of Courtnall though...
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Dept. of Geophysics & Astronomy        admixture of madness."   Aristotle
University of British Columbia
2219 Main Mall
Vancouver, BC                         e-mail:kitson@geop.ubc.ca 
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From: rickc@wrigley.corp.sgi.com (Richard Casares)
Subject: Re: Cherry picking Hull
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:07:59 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.050038.5718@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca>,
cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca (DAVID A LISOGURSKI) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct7.174529.23884@odin.corp.sgi.com>
|> rickc@wrigley.corp.sgi.com (Richard Casares) writes:
|> >
|> >Cherry Picker: see "Brett Hull"
|> >
|> 
|> That's bull!
|> 
|> He scores some nice goals from the slot, but he's not a cherry picker!
|> Maybe his defence isn't great, but on most of his goals, he goes
|> streaking
|> down the wing after taking a nice pass, and scores on a nice shot.
|> He doesn't stand on the blue line or the goal crease waiting for a
|> pass!
|> 
|> --Dave
|> 

If ever there was a guy who stood higher in the slot waiting for
the pass, it's Hull.

Now Jaromir Jagr, there's a guy who makes and earns his goals! ;-)

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From: epritcha@s.psych.uiuc.edu (EVAN pritchard)
Subject: Re: NHL STATS THRU OCT 10, 1992
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:03:49 GMT

Does anyone have a program written for taking the stats that are
kindly posted (thank you very much), and processing them for, say, a
hockey pool league?  :-) 


=================== 
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: gen5061@husky1.stmarys.ca
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Wings1-Jets4
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:06:15 GMT
Organization: St. Mary's University, Halifax, N.S., Canada

>> The Wings lost the season opener 4-1 to Winnipeg last night.
>> Bob Essensa played spectacular in goal for Winnipeg, and rookie
>> Teammu Selane (sp?) looks like a candidate to chase Lindros in
>> rookie of the year.
> 
> Name is Teemu Sel{nne (Selaenne? Does anybody know how it is printed on
> his back?) and if I know right, he assisted two goals...and you're
> right, he will be a canditate in rookie of the year chase. But I think
> "Big Eric" will be more famous than Teemu, because he is Canadian and
					     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Comments such as these are not necessary in our discussions of hockey!  If you
thought before you wrote then you would have found that this statement is
inappropiate.  The criteria for the selection of rookie of the year has nothing
to do with nationality.  It has everything to do with player stats and
contribution to the team.
If Teemu Selanne contributes to the Winnipeg organization, and puts points on 
the board in comparison to Lindros or any other rookie then he will be 
considered for the award.

> Teemu is only "somebody from a strange country"...
> 
>    Jonne Siren / FIHL
> 
> -- 
> -
> SM-LIIGA tulospalvelu / Finnish Ice-Hockey League Results Service
> "Living isn't necessary; icehockey is..."
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