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From:         Dave Uherka <UHERKA@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
              14 Aug 1992 10:44:00 N from <CARNIEL@UDST02.CINECA.IT>

On Fri, 14 Aug 1992 10:44:00 N <CARNIEL@UDST02.CINECA.IT> said:
>...
>Do you know of any systematic or case study of the application of Newton's
>method to polynomials of degree greater than 3 or to systems of equations?

     You might look at:  _Newton's Method and Dynamical Systmes_,
Edited by Heinz-Otto Peitgen, Kluwer Academic Publishers, Dordrecht,
Holland, 1989  (reprinted from "Acta Applicandae Mathematicae,"
Vol. 13, Nos. 1 and 2 (1988) ).

Dave Uherka, Math Dept, Univ. of ND, USA
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From:         LEVERETT@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU
Subject:      Re: Chaos Theory.
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Hi, I work at the Mass College of Art in Boston where there is currently
quite a bit of interest in Chaos Theory the director of the computer lab
has been teaching a course for highschool on Chaos using computers to
generate graphics. If you'd like I'm sure a dialog could be established
around the study of Chaos. I mentioned your message to him and he was
interested in seeing what you are curious about.

	I think a Chaos discussion group is a good idea,
talk to you soon, Leslie Everett
Library-Mass college of Art
Boston, Mass
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From:         CARNIEL@UDST02.CINECA.IT

Hello! I'm Roberto again.
I'm interested in the determination of basins of attraction, in
particular connected to Newton's method.
I'd like to find some optimized implementation of Hsu's Simple and
Generalized Cell Mapping and description and/or software for other methods.

About Newton's method and Julia sets, I have some questions for you:

Do you know of some function for which the ORIGINAL
(not relaxed!) Newton's method exhibits a strange attractor?

Do you know if an indifferent periodic point can be assigned to the Julia
set or to the Fatou set by only looking at its eigenvalue?

Do you know of any systematic or case study of the application of Newton's
method to polynomials of degree greater than 3 or to systems of equations?

Thanking you again for your attention ...
                                                           Roberto Carniel

my e-mail address is:
carniel@udst02.cineca.it

my address is:
Dr. Roberto Carniel
Dipartimento di Georisorse e Territorio
Via Cotonificio, 114
33100 Udine (Italy)

my fax number is:
+ 39 / 432 / 558700
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Subject:      Gaussian plane

The complex plane is called "Gaussian" after Karl Friedrich Gauss,
1777-1855, who invented/discovered the complex numbers at a
tender age.
--Rollo <rsilver@lanl.gov>
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From:         "Bruce W. Fogarty" <fogarty@VNET.IBM.COM>
Subject:      Algorithms for feature recog in environmental applications
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IBM Federal Systems Company is interested in hearing from researchers
working in use of fractals for feature recognition in earth/environmental
science applications.  Of particular interest would be those who have written
algorithms to do this.  If you would like to share your research progress
with IBM, please send a note with a brief description of your work to:

        Al Adkins, c/o INTERNET:  adkinsab@houvmscc.vnet.ibm.com

NOTE:  This is also being posted to GIS-L (SUNY-Buffalo).

Bruce Fogarty
Research Computing Specialist, IBM (Academic Information Systems)
GIS, Environmental Sciences, Global Change, Statistics, Visualization
(214) 406-7399   ** Dallas, Texas **   Fax:  (214) 406-7523 or -7226
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 10:17:00 -300
From:         LEMKE@IF1.UFRGS.BR
Subject:      Re: CAL V3.01 and complex arithmetic

Tim asks


"Does anyone know how to raise one complex number to the power of another, and
how to perform trigonometry on complex numbers?"


The answers are:

a) x^z = e^(z*ln x)

b) The trigonometric funsctions you have hust to write them in their
exponencial form, for example:

       2*sin (z)= e^(i*x - y) + e^(-i*x + y)



        I hope this will be usefull,

                Ney Lemke

        E-Mail: Lemke@if1.ufrgs.br
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From:         Humberto Baptista <0005425758@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Beginning... & cia.
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              <FRAC-L%GITVM1.BITNET@pucc.princeton.edu>

        Well, just not to be different, I, too, am new to the frac-l discussion
list. As a sujestion to Chris I would say that if you're interested in the
history behind the "scene" you should read Gleik's Chaos, and if you have a bit
more mathemathics (not much - a basic course in calculus or analysis) you should
take a good look at Michael Barnsley's Fractals Everywhere. And othe source of
good discussions and valuable information is the articles on Scientific American
they're worth reading.
        Just to be sure that you're not out of it: get the latest vesion of
fractint, it doesn't take any math or money and it's sure a lot of fun to see
what's going on.
        As of chaos theory, I don't know if there's another discussion list for
it, anyone else knows???

        To Cesar: I've had some problems before with the counting box algoritm,
but its generaly straitforward, normaly I've got problems of two kinds, first
forgetting the dimension of the space that the object is in (in your case 3) and
the second (a bit more trickier) is to believe that something that looks strange
can actualy have an integer dimension (whole), that is the problem with the
early definitions of the term fractal. An it could be the case if you data is
"well behaved".

        Til' next time.

        Humberto Baptista               e-mail: HBaptista@MCIMail.com
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Subject: Re: CAL V3.01 and complex arithmetic
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 07:02:07 GMT

>Tim asks


>"Does anyone know how to raise one complex number to the power of another, and
>how to perform trigonometry on complex numbers?"

I have a pascal library with all kinds of complex and trigonio functions.
I wrote it myself on day (I had nothing else to do 8().

I've your interrested, pls send me a mail. The adress you gave me bounced.

BTW, i might have a C version also, I'm not sure.


Happy Hacking "PABRAS"
(aka The Graphical Gnome)

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Subject:      RE: CAL V3.01 and complex arithmetic

Tim - FRACTINT has done it beuaatifully - if you can't download it I'll send you
 a copy my E_MAIL is DAVID1@uk.AC.MDX.CLUSTER.
i'm at Middlesex Uni.  Regards David.
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From:         CARNIEL@UDST02.CINECA.IT

Hello!
I'm a new subscriber too.
To get started, I would suggest to Chris the book:
"Chaos and fractals - The mathematics behind the computer graphics"
Proceedings of Symposia in Applied Mathematics, Volume 39
American Mathematical Society - Providence, Rhode Island, 1989

I'm interested in chaos too, in particular in extracting dynamical features
from time series coming from measurements of volcanic activity

I would be interested in receiving any public domain software package
and/or paper featuring dimensional analysis, Lyapunov exponents calculation,
short term nonlinear prediction and so on. If anybody is interested,
I know of some anonymous ftp's; please contact me.

Thanking you for your attention ...
                                                           Roberto Carniel

my e-mail address is:
carniel@udst02.cineca.it

my address is:
Dr. Roberto Carniel
Dipartimento di Georisorse e Territorio
Via Cotonificio, 114
33100 Udine (Italy)

my fax number is:
+ 39 / 432 / 558700
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From:         "Tim.Harris" <tharris@SCHOOL-OF-COMPUTING.PLYMOUTH.AC.UK>
Subject:      CAL V3.01 and complex arithmetic

The latest version of CAL is now available from SIMTEL under the names
FRCAL030.ZIP for the program and FRCALDMO.ZIP for the demonstration images.
It is stored in the <MSDOS.graphics> directory - any comments on it or
suggestions for improvements will be welcome.

I am currently trying to improve the user defined formulae option since it
can currently only perform many arithmetic functions with non-complex numbers.
Does anyone know how to raise one complex number to the power of another, and
how to perform trigonometry on complex numbers?

Thanks,

Tim Harris
THarris@UK.AC.PLYM.SC
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From:         wsommers@CRC1.AB.UMD.EDU
Subject:      Signal Processing and FFT's
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Hello:

Does anyone know where I can get information about C signal processing
libraries and FFT algorithms?

Much thanks,

William R. Sommers
University of Maryland at Baltimore
UMAB
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Subject:      Re: Signal Processing and FFT's

Dear Mr. Sommers:

        I have translated the FFT algorythm in Numerical recipes
from FORTRAN to MS-C.  It works extremely well, and is reasonably fast
on a good machine with a co-processor (14 sec for a 32K transform).  I
skipped ahead in my mail when I saw FFT in your subj line so I don't
know what other responses you have had.

        I must say, that FFT's are probably the most interesting
"thing" I have yet encountered in my journy through college.  I guess
I could post the source code if you want it.  - or private E-Mail.

I am no stud C programmer, but all of my programs using the routine work.

                                        Michael D. Aesoph
                                        Michael D. Aesoph
                                  mdast6@vms.cis.pitt.edu
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From:         Roland Silver <rsilver@BETA.LANL.GOV>
Subject: Re: Synchronous Orbits
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I'm working on a variant; so is Tim Wegner / Stone Soup.
--Rollo Silver
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 09:23:04 CDT
From:         Dave Uherka <UHERKA@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
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              17 Aug 1992 11:02:03 BST from
              <tharris@SCHOOL-OF-COMPUTING.PLYMOUTH.AC.UK>

On Mon, 17 Aug 1992 11:02:03 BST Tim.Harris said:
>I am currently trying to improve the user defined formulae option since it
>can currently only perform many arithmetic functions with non-complex numbers.
>Does anyone know how to raise one complex number to the power of another, and
>how to perform trigonometry on complex numbers?

     z1^z2 = exp( z2 * log(z1) ).  To see how to evaluate exp and
log of a complex number, as well as any of the trig functions of
a complex number, see any text on complex variables or
most engineering math texts such as E. Kreyszig, _Advanced
Engineering Mathematics_, John Wiley and Sons, 1988, Chapter 12.
The standard formulas are summarized on pages 765-766 of this
text.

     Dave Uherka, Math Dept, Univ of ND, USA
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From:         Mike Freeman <USERCEKW@UBCMTSG.BITNET>
Subject:      Synchronous Orbits

Has anyone out there implemented the algorithm described in Stoft's article
in the latest Amygdala?  It looks interesting, but what I'd like to know is
under what conditions will it "work", i.e. save significant time over the
usual algorithms.
                     - Mike Freeman -
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I ftp-ed some files from SIMTEL, and am now trying to unzip them. Being a
network nitwit I don't know what unzip program to use, or where to find it.
Please send me whereabouts and instructions of the appropriate unzipper.
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Tim, you said/asked:
> I am currently trying to improve the user defined formulae option since it
can currently only perform many arithmetic functions with non-complex numbers.
Does anyone know how to raise one complex number to the power of another, and
how to perform trigonometry on complex numbers?

* You can do that by applying some simple algebra to the basic definitions,
for example let z = x+iy, then
  sin(z) = (e^(iz) - e^(-iz))/2i = (e^(i(x+iy)) - e^(-i(x+iy)))/2i =
  (e^(ix-y) - e^(-ix+y))/2i = (e^(ix)/e^y - e^y/e^(ix))/2i, and we can finish
  up with e^(ix) = cos(x) + i sin(x), plug it into the previous,
  and do all the gruesome algebra.
  I've probably made some errors there, since I did it on the fly,
but I hope you get the idea.
  The result should be:
    sin(x+iy) = sin(x)*cosh(y) + i*cos(x)*sinh(y)
see "Trigonometric Identities" (Amygdala #21, page 8) for other such formulae.

z^w can be handled similarly, but the details are rather complicated. Send me
your paperMail address and I'll send a derivation to you. If you want to try
it yourself, start from z^w = e^(w*log(z)) and, letting z = r*e^(it),
log(z) = log(r) + it -- but here we get into a can of worms, because log(z) is
not single-valued: the correct formula is log(z) = log(r) + i(t + 2*pi*n), for
n = 0,1, ...

--rollo <rsilver@lanl.gov>
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:23:00 EDT
From:         CHRIS LEMAY <9011500@MCMASTER.BITNET>
Subject:      Chaos Theory.

Hello.

        I'm new to the list and have a couple of questions (i always have
some of those, and the more i answer, the more i get ... it's enough to
drive you insane you know ....)

        First of all, i've noticed that not much is said about Chaos Theory
on this discussion group, which i find a bit odd since Chaos and Fractals are
very closely relate friends.  I would like to know whether or not there is
a seperate list for the discussion of Chaos Theory and Chaotic systems in a
general sense.  Could somebody please tell me if there is such a list?

        Secondly, i'm also quite a young lad, and although i understand what
fractals are in a general sense, i'm at much of a loss to make anything of
them mathematically.  Can anybody on the list send me a note with some advice
on how to get started down the road to understanding fractals in a more in
depth fashion?  (right now, all i have is what most would call a "popular"
understanding of fractals ... also, my math background is rather non-existant,
so could you please keep that in mind when helping me out?)



                                Thank you a whole bunch already,


        Truly,

                        Chris Lemay.
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              17 Aug 1992 13:55:44 EDT from <wsommers@CRC1.AB.UMD.EDU>


  If you want numerical code in C try the "Numerical Recipes in C",
 the best reference with a very readable text and C code. If it is
 difficult to find that book with only his name, send me a mail.
                                  Alfredo
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Subject:      OOP / Smalltalk -- theoretical papers about
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Hi!

I'm actually working at a paper on chinese morphology and want to
use/cite some basic ideas of OOP/Smalltalk.

Can anybody give me a hint where to get theoretical paper about
oop/smalltalk from ? (papers of the 60ies from PARC/Xerox are
maybe the best ?!?)

Please contact me directly, because I'm actually not subscribed to
this list

Thanks for any help

Alexander

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Subject:      Re: Amiga Chip Set

I couldn't find a listing for CBU under NYSE for some reason. I looked in
the New York Times.  Commdre is listed however, ... along with a massive
2.25 drop yesterday.  It dropped so massively that the NY Times even had
a little bit about Commodore on page 4 I think, saying how the earnings
dropped because of the final discontinuation of C-64's, despite sales in
Eastern Europe.
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   Could you please also send me the file.  I don't have FTP so email would
be prefered.  If it's not to big, posting would probably be welcomed.

Thanks,


-- 
Shane McCarthy                  Please forward mail to
Windsor, Ont.                   cs.uwindsor.ca!jabba!peeker!shane
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Subject:      Mac Graphics to Amiga

From: BARNETTJ@EARN.SNYSYRV1

I am about to scan a series of documents on a macintosh scanner and
wish to import these images over to the amiga for use in pagestream.
1) What are the file formats that macintosh uses to save images?
2) How would I convert these images to a format that pagestream can handle?
3) Are any particular mac formats for saving the image preferable to any
other?

Please note that I do have amax II and a mac drive.

Any and all suggestions will be greatly appreciated!

From Derryck:

The easiest way, I find is to save ths Mac files as TIFF, and use Hamlab to
convert to IFF. Of course, w/o AMAX (emplant) et al, u will need mac2dos etc..

On the SUN wk/stations in my lab, we have a proggie called xv. ( An image
 processor)
which is out of this world!! (Saves GIF, TIFF(compression as well), TARGA, XBM,
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PostScript, etc, etc)

Derryck.
.
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	From: GADGET <SHALEY%ALBION.BITNET@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu>

	Ffolkes,

	There has been alot of talk and speculation in the last 6 months that
	the Amiga is a dead platform.  Well, I was slightly enheartened by the
	last "Chief Concerns" column in AmigaWorld.  But the guy who writes that
	does owe living to the success of the Amiga, and so would not, in my
        opinion, be likely
	to agree that it is a dead platform.


	                                laterdays,
	                                SLH.
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Of course, that 'guy' is no longer editor of Amiga World. He left for another
job. Do you suppose he knows more than he writes???

Herb


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