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From: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (T-Dub - SGP '92)
Subject: Re: ReDmAn..?
Reply-To: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:01:29 GMT

In article <BxGvws.A98@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (The black guy.) writes:
>In article <1dm2cdINNdrt@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> der2@po.CWRU.Edu (David E. Rives) writes:
>>
>>I am listening to Redman right now...
>>I picked up the disc about one week ago and I have been listening to
>>	it for a while..
>>AND IT DOES not IMPRESS ME ALL THAT MUCH...
>...deleted..
>>NWA, etc..) but he aint talkin' bout nothing... Thats kinda like my
>>boy Bizmarkie cussin' up a storm.. Its simply not necessary and it 
>>wouldn't fit him...
>i feel just exactly the SAME WAY about it.  i enjoy some of the gangsta
>stuff, but i, like you thought that he wasn't sayin' s**t!  i'm glad
>that i had somone else play it for me before i spent my own money on
>it. 
>(although i did like the song "blow your mind" (both versions) & one
>other. 
>>
>>I'm out like a
>>"black man at a white woman's funeral" 
>fo' real... (what's that mean anyway?? (: ) 
>>
>>David E. Rives 
>>(der2@po.cwru.edu)
>-jon
>(Sade's new album *is* dope!!! although it's too short.)
>

Damn, people are just dissing Redman.  My biggest fear with it was the musical
part.  I am sick of hearing P-Funk samples.  But it seems, at least the two of
you, are dissing more on the lyrical content and style, than the beats.  I
guess I will actually have to make time to listen to it in its entirety.  I
bought the album about two weeks ago ($7.98 on wax), but only played, "Time For
Some Ack-Shun," or whatever the name is.
By the way, I have Positive K and will post my feelings on it as soon as I get
a chance to listen to it a few more times.

                                              T-Dub
                                              SHYGUY Productions

*Waiting for Sade's new one to be released by the Columbia Music Club so I can
 it for half price!!!  Also looking for new Stepanie Mills.  Anyone hear the
 latest Miki Howard album, _FEMME_FATAL_, or Howard Hewitt's new one?  If so,
 e-mail me...........


Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (The black guy.)
Subject: Re: Lyrics..
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:19:09 GMT

In article <1dn2d4INN78i@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> der2@po.CWRU.Edu (David E. Rives) writes:
>
>
>Hey...
>
...deleted...
>
>
>Oh, btw -- Did y'all see the "similack child" video by Black Sheep
>	Oh My Gosh... Just point me to that pasture..!
>
>And, I saw the Arrested Development video for "Revolution" today...
>	For all that have not bought the AD CD yet, wait, cause the
>	song "Revolution" will be on the AD discs that are cut later, 
>	after the movie I guess.. 
>
>What's up with the Disposible Heroes of Hipocracy... They seem kinda dope
>	has anybody bought their stuff...?
pretty nice.  very political, some dope beats, kind of "alternative"
hip-hop (one (or both) of them is from the Beat-Nigs)
>
>That's it for me...
>
>I'm out 
>"like a black man at a white woman's funeral"  -- Da Lench Mob
>						   "Buck tha Devil"
all right.  sorry, ain't heard Da Lench mob, but at least i know where
it's from now.
>
>David E. Rives
>(der2@po.cwru.edu)
-jon
(a.k.a the anointed nubian)
"We're gonna chase those crazy baldheads outta yown"
-bob marley, "crazy baldheads"
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:51:36 EST
From: <CXS168@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: P.E./Ice-T/HOP Tour

ok here's the scoop for now.....on Nov. 22 These guys are playing at University
 Park (Penn State)....I'm working the concert (Hospitality, which means I'll pr
obably get to meet them.) so what I'll do is get tour date information and I'll
 post it......
Xref: sparky alt.rap:5884 alt.slack:3045
From: Mitchell.Porter@launchpad.unc.edu (Mitchell Porter)
Newsgroups: alt.rap,alt.slack
Subject: Mistadobalina
Date: 8 Nov 92 05:36:07 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

Does this song have anything to do with Bob Dobbs or not? I've read that
"Bob Dobalina" showed up in a 1968 Monkees song, but then Del is from 
Oakland, which I'm sure is the home of Puzzling Evidence...


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From: der2@po.CWRU.Edu (David E. Rives)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Lyrics..
Date: 10 Nov 1992 01:14:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Reply-To: der2@po.CWRU.Edu (David E. Rives)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu



Hey...

I was wondering who was those people who posted the lyrics that
I saw on here before..?

I truly enjoyed the Das Efx lyrics that were posted before, and I 
heard some people request lyrics, but I never heard anything else...
I think that would be one of the most attractive features of this board 
if everyone posted lyrics to their favorite song..

Some of the songs I'd eventually like to see:
(If y'all can do Das Efx, y'all can do anything)

Dwyck : Gangstarr w/ Nice and Smooth
Return of the Letterman : K-Solo 
Home Girl Don't Play Dat : Yo Yo
So What'cha Want : Beastie Boys (well, their CD is kinda funky...)
Blow Your Mind : The RED guy (the only song I like..)
Hot Sex : A Tribe Called Quest

Stuff like that...



Oh, btw -- Did y'all see the "similack child" video by Black Sheep
	Oh My Gosh... Just point me to that pasture..!

And, I saw the Arrested Development video for "Revolution" today...
	For all that have not bought the AD CD yet, wait, cause the
	song "Revolution" will be on the AD discs that are cut later, 
	after the movie I guess.. 

What's up with the Disposible Heroes of Hipocracy... They seem kinda dope
	has anybody bought their stuff...?

That's it for me...

I'm out 
"like a black man at a white woman's funeral"  -- Da Lench Mob
						   "Buck tha Devil"

David E. Rives
(der2@po.cwru.edu)





Organization: Senior, History, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Date: Fri,  6 Nov 1992 19:09:31 -0500 
From: John Richard Murphy <jm82+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Speaking of the Syndicate



    Is everlast still "down with the syndicate".  I never got the
original everlast album, I heard some songs, and I just didn't hit me as
anything great.  I think he definelty made an improvment with the House
of Pain, but on the album and the linear notes, no props to Ice-T or the
syndicate.  Was it that they were never that close, just business
associate, was cause they had a falling out, or is something else.

                                                Peace

                                                    JOhn
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (The black guy.)
Subject: Re: The Devil
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:57:30 GMT

In article <BxGs9I.2BJ@inews.Intel.COM> pharvey@mipos3.intel.com (Paul Harvey) writes:
>In article <BxFny3.2qJ@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> 
>sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (The black guy.) writes:
>>well, the masons are a "religious" organization.
>
>Actually, they *claim* they are *NOT* a religion.
thats why i put the quotes there.  i don't know much about them.
>
>They are either a joke or they run the whole world and are the source of
>all conspiracies. It's kinda like The Man: You know he's around somewhere
>but you don't know where. It's a mind game and you gotta deal with that.
>
>Oh, and one more thing: Most of the "Founding Fathers" of the US were Masons.
>
>Kinda 'splains a few things, don't it?
from what i *do* know, it could.
>
>Make me wanna get a gatt too, and peel a cap too, but I ain't down for the
>tattoo.
>
>187 thousand G!
-jon
(& i'm out.)
From: sbhimji@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Sam Bhimji)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: YBT
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 14:55:40 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

-      I bought that CRAZY wack Young Black Teenagers CD last year and i think
- that was the worst mistake I ever made.  Most of the songs are produced by
- The Bomb Squad (of PE fame).  The CD was STILL booty.  You couldn't PAY me to
- listen to that shit.

No doubt! I also picked up that disc last year when it came out, and it 
took me FOREVER to get rid of it! After about 3 months of going to the 
used music store, they finally bought it off of me...


Sam Bhimji              sbhimji@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
From: cspot@cats.ucsc.edu (Christopher Edward Hilker)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Disposable Heroes of HipHoprisy
Date: 12 Nov 1992 19:32:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


donato@applix.com (Donato Miranda [ext 241]) writes:

>In article <fedde.721484906@Minsk> fedde@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler) writes:

>	i've been listening to their album since june, and it's one
>of the best albums of all time (IMO). (to the person who said some
>of the best albums of all time (IMO). (someone said some   
>tracks suck, which ones??)  also, seeing them live in a club was
>the best experience. one of the best live shows i've ever seen (forget
>them on the U2 tour, i'm still trying to figure out how anyone
>can enjoy themselves in an arena.)   Franti brought his mom on
>stage near the end and she sang some soul!  the guitar player played
>the funkiest jazz licks and the beat was PHAT!

I'll give another vote of confidence to DHoH. I really like their album
(most interesting song, but not really from a hip-hop standpoint, is
"Music and Politics"). I saw them live in Santa Cruz just before election
day, and the show was amazing. One of the most energy-filled shows
I've been to in a long time.

C.

-- 
                       |    They have corrupted themselves,
Chris.Hilker           |    their spot is not the spot of his children:
cspot@cats.ucsc.edu    |    they are a perverse and crooked generation.
From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (K-Mello SGP '92)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Live Squad
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:05:42 GMT
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <Bx65tF.C2K@ns1.nodak.edu>, dtauzell@plains (David Tauzell) writes:
>
Well, since you didn't say anything other than the subject, I'm going to ramble
on about the Live Squad.  Well, I have a 12" from them with these 2 songs on
it.  To make a short story the same, I was not impressed.  Yes, I only listened
once, and yes it was through headphones at the time, but I was not the least
bit inclined to play it again when I could listen to it at a proper sound
level.  I will try again though, and post again.  I don't know if there is a
full LP or even an EP from them yet.  Anyone else heard them?


K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions '92
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: wattsww@ntmtv.UUCP (Warren Watts)
Subject: Re: Lyrics..
Reply-To: wattsww@ntmtv.UUCP (Warren Watts)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:24:51 GMT

rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Ronald Johnson) writes:
>Hey, "annointed nubian"(and anyone else who may have 411)
>
>Ever since I read in an album review that The Disposible Heroes of Hiphoprisy
>were once part of the Beatnigs, and bought DHH's album, Ive been trying to find
>some stuff by the Beatnigs...Did they ever put out any legit material(beside
>12" s ) Any albums?? Anybody can describe what kinda flayva they had??
>

The Beatnigs have one full length album out. The flavor is definately
industrial. The Beatnigs were one of the few industrial bands who
could play completely live. Tales of accustic jams played live in some
park or square in S.F. have been seen on the net. I have their album
on CD. I found it in the Import/Indie section of Tower here in
Mountain View. The lyrics are every bit as political as DHOH but they
are not as fully developed. Micheal Franti and Rono Tse were both part
of the Beatnigs, with Franti as the lyricist for both groups. If you
can't find or order the CD where you live, drop me a line, I should be
able to find a copy in the SF Bay Area and ship it to you if you want
it badly enough.

Peace,
	  Warren Watts
From: c60a-lj@danube.Berkeley.EDU (LAB ASSISTANT)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: 3rd Bass
Date: 13 Nov 92 21:18:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley

klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (K-Mello SGP '92) writes:

>BTW, did the Beastie Boys reply to any of the 3rd Bass disses on the "Check
>Your Head" album?

what disses, and off what album?  I can say this, Check your head progresses
rap farther than just about any album I've heard since Cypress Hill.  They
play their own instruments and have a few tracks that are just instrumental 
funk.  3rd bass was kool, but they didn't really sound that different from
anything else - ay, if Rap doesn't change and evolve we would still be 
listen'n to the Sugar Hill Gang....
					-RAS-
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: The Devil
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:18:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.171726.1338@ultb.isc.rit.edu> klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>
>To add something for people to think about to what my man T-Dub said, if you
>look at the 5% NAtion, they consider themselves gods.  That is what they call
>each other.  Now if they call themselves gods, and they think of the white man
>as the enemy, who is God's "enemy"?  It logically makes since that they would
>call the white man the devil.  Now I am NOT a 5%, so I cannot say if this is
>how the term came about, but it makes logical sense to me that they would call
>the white man the devil.  This theory is just mine, and has never been
>confirmed by any member of the 5% Nation, nor am I a 5 percenter.  But I do
>have a question, if anybody out there can answer it.  If 5 percenters are the
>5% of the population who are "civilized", and 85% of the population is
>"uncivilized", what about the other 10% of the population?  I may have heard
>this before, but I just can't remember.  

From what limited knowledge I have of the 5%, it's the 10% who are the devils
and the 85% who are just the "lost" people.  This was KRS-ONE's big beef
with the NoI, that the 5% weren't bother to teach the truth to the 85%, or
weren't teaching them the right path.

>The views expressed above are mine and mine only. You dont have to agree. You
>dont have to disagree. I dont care either way. I'm just saying what I think,
>and hoping to gain more knowledge, period. Peace.

Now THAT'S a disclaimer.

>K-Mello
>SHYGUY Productions '92

-- 
- David J. --------------------------- *Coming in 1993:                      *
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From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: A little tour info-PE/Ice T/House of Pain
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:28:34 GMT

Yo, if anyone has info on if and when this tour is coming to either Indy,
Louisville or Cincinnati, please e-mail me.  I don't want to miss this.


-- 
- David J. --------------------------- *Coming in 1993:                      *
- Blue Riddle Productions ------------ *RAP IS AN ART/TURN UP THE MICROPHONE *
- dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu ----- *David J.'s debut 12" single          *
- Sports Editor/Indiana Daily Stupid - *ON VINYL from Blue Riddle Productions*
From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (K-Mello SGP '92)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: NWA is outa there
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:02:59 GMT
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <1992Nov12.175742.28462@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (T-Dub - SGP '92) writes:
>...deleted
>Wasn't Eazy in Ren's video, "The Final Frontier," as well as Ren still being on
>Ruthless Records?  Unless something happened since, I don't see the reason for
>sueing him.  He can't sue Cube (well, he can, but on what grounds, and, isn't
>it a bit late?).  He already is into court battles with Dre.  And, who knows
>where Yella is?  He's the only group member who you hear *nothing* about. 
>Wonder why? :)

Well, I can't say I have ever listened to an entire NWA album, but on the songs
I did hear, I can't say I remember DJ Yella flexing any skills.  I don't
remember him rapping, and unless he helped with production, which I think he
did do, what was his purpose?  Maybe that's why we never hear anything about
him.

>
>                                           T-Dub
>                                           SHYGUY Productions
>


K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions '92
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: U14864@uicvm.uic.edu (Tyrone Ellison)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Any info on the new Kane album?
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:06:18 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

What up?  I was just wondering if anyone out there has heard any info on Kane's
new one... I HEARD that it was SUPPOSED to drop in late October, but it's
already early November.  Any info will be appreciated.

I'm AUDI like Bush/Quayle...

The Minister of Rage, Gifted Underworld Executioner
From: der2@po.CWRU.Edu (David E. Rives)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Lyrics..
Date: 10 Nov 1992 13:13:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Reply-To: der2@po.CWRU.Edu (David E. Rives)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu



In a previous article, rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Ronald Johnson) says:

>I  havent seen Similak Child...how  is it?? And  which version are they using
>for the video?? You know like how  they used  a remix instead of the original

In the video, they use a remix version, with a heavy drum track.. It was 
kinda fonky.. And all you saw were honeys (well-endowed honeys that is)
just bouncing around in the pasture. Along with some cows, some milk, some
Tres, and some SDDaddy... The video starts out with milk being poured on
a young lady's breast. And if you know Black Sheep, imagine what the woman
would look like who they chose to be the "similak child". Goodness...
This video alone is enough reason to watch a show like Yo! or Rap City..
Lets just say it took "my boy" and I about two or three videos to stop
babbiling about the video...

>version for Strobelite Honey?? Saw the 12" in  the store...a  picture of a
>breast!  (with the  nipple distorted  of course,  for the sake of  the  kids
>and  the tight asses that may  get offended  :)  )

Go see that picture, and the rest of that breast in the video...

>Oh, I have  Disposible Heroes...theyre  real deep..Michael Franti,  the rapper
>is  really  articulate, intelligent,  and political,  not unlike Chuck  D. The
>music is real  cool  too,  If you havent heard,they use all kinds of junk, 
>chains,  steel, bedsprings, whatever they can find, to make their music..The
>songs deal with of social and political issues such as sellout blacks, products
>of  interracial parents(which Franti is), and  other important issues..kinda
>cool.

Wait, let me just make sure that is the group that I am talking about..
Are they the ones that made "Best kept Secret" ?  This is the name of the 
song that I had in mind...

>Anybody hear of the group Rise Robots Rise??

I have never heard of 'em..

>                                                           Peace
>                                                            RJ


"From the time that she was born, she was raised to be all that,
Gave her no food, strictly similak....
I touched her on the hand, I had to feel her..."  -- Black Sheep



In Cleveland, among the Black clubs and dance places that play primarily
rap and reggae (those are the clubs that I frequent), there is a particular
song that is "DA CUT".. 

Its called "Trick Bitch with a Good Rap" by Sylk Smoove
But, it is not the version that is on their album.. It is on their
CD single (remix version). They used to sell it around here but they don't
anymore. Hmmm... Does anyone know where I can get that cut from?


I'm out 
"like a nigga at a white woman funeral"   -- Da Lench Mob
					       "Buck tha Devil"

David E. Rives
(der2@po.cwru.edu)

Sorry about prev. misquote...
I hadn't listened in a little while.



Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (T-Dub - SGP '92)
Subject: Re: Best DJ? (was Re: Need some 411)
Reply-To: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 06:30:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.055647.10945@athena.mit.edu>, ekundayo@athena.mit.edu (Enuma Olanrewaju Ogunyemi) writes:
>
>BTW, what the fuck does Kenny Parker do.  My grandmother has more turntable
>skills than he has exhibited so far (and that is from the grave mind you!!).

After seeing a live Kenny Parker, I'd say he does 'not much.'  DJ Doc was
definately better, but he did very little too.  Kenny Parker made a nice
boo-boo at the end of a Yo! MTV Raps live performance of, "South Bronx," too,
but it wasn't nearly as funny as DJ Wiz showing Arsenio Hall how to scratch and
missing everything completely!  THAT was funny....

>	Pete Rock, Jazzy Jeff, DJ Muggs are all outstanding producers but I don't
>seem to hear them flex that much on the tables.
>

Another of my memory's of a DJ.... back in '88, I remember seeing a video where
BDP/KRS-One was doing samples of BY ALL MEANS NECESSARY live and afterwards,
Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince came on.  After doing some samples of their
material, they did a tribute to Grandmaster Caz and Jazzy Jeff proceeded to rip
S**T on three turntables at once.  The first time I had ever saw that done. 
And not only did he do it, he did it *and* came off doing it.  Very impressive
and showed why Philly had some of the best DJ's when it came to cutting and
scratching....

>
>
>Selector Dudublack
>"send them to the Butcher Shop- Chop! Chop! Chop!"  
>	

It would seem the 'best' DJ is being considered on cutting and scratching
skills more than anything else.  Otherwise, TX probably would get his just
props for keeping the beat in a live PE show......

                                            T-Dub
                                            SHYGUY Productions
From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (K-Mello SGP '92)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: ZEBRAHEAD Soundtrack
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:40:33 GMT
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <1992Nov10.182100.2536@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, jsuit@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (janice.r.s.suit) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.202059.5178@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (T-Dub - SGP '92) writes:
>> Has anybody given this album a try yet?  I saw it in the store the other day
>> and it included the *dope* Nasty Nas track, "Halftime," produced by The Large
>> Professor, a new one from Serch, a new one from Moe Dee, and something from
>> BOSS produced by Serch and T-Ray (I think).
>
>I saw the film ZebraHead recently and the actor that portrayed Zack looks just
>like MC Serch.  Is he Serch's brother?  Isn't Serch's last name Rappaport.
>Anybody know the 411?

Nope.  I believe his last name is Berin, although I don't have any of his shit
in front of me right now to say for sure, but I'm pretty positive it is.

>
>I'm out....
>
>************ ************ ************ ************ *****************
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>Middletown, NJ 07748         time for me to ruin those who don't
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K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions '92
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