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From: chen_l@WUMS.WUSTL.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Medal Counts as of 7/28
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:18:35 GMT


Date: 28-JUL-1992 20:03:01

Description: MEDAL COUNT tu 28.7.

 
      MEDAL COUNT AS OF 28.7. (INCOMPLETE)
 
EUN		   7	  6	 1
China		   5      7	 2
USA		   4	  3	 7
Hungary		   4	  2	 1
Germany		   2	  1	 4
Korea		   2	  0	 1
Spain		   2	  0	 0
Bulgaria	   1	  2	 0
Australia	   1	  1	 2
Japan              1 	  1	 1
Cuba		   1	  1	 0
Turkey		   1	  0	 0
Norway		   1	  0	 0
France		   0	  2	 4
Sweden		   0	  2	 1
Italy		   0	  1	 3
Poland		   0	  1	 0
Brazil         	   0	  1	 0
Peru     	   0	  1	 0
Romany		   0	  0	 2
Finland		   0	  0	 1
Holland		   0	  0	 1
Surinam		   0	  0	 1
Mongolia           0	  0	 1
 
Aranka Binder	   -	  -	 1
 
The following events are counted:
(WARNING: Includes medalists of the individual events)

 
M 100m Breast (USA,HUN,AUS)
M 200m Freestyle (EUN,SWE,FIN)
M Free-pistol 60s (EUN,CHN,SWE)
M 100km timecycling (GER,ITA,FRA)
M Weight lifting 52kg (BUL,CHN,ROM)
F 100m Freestyle (CHN,USA,GER)
F 400m Medley (HUN,CHN,USA)
F Air-rifle (KOR,BUL,---)
F Cross-Country Cycling (AUS,FRA,HOL)
 
M 4x200m Free (EUN,SWE,USA)
M 400m Medley (HUN,USA,ITA)
M 100m Butterfly (USA,POL,SUR)
M Weight lifting 56kg (KOR,CHN,CHN)
M Air-rifle 60+10s (EUN,FRA,GER)
M Cycling 1000m time (ESP,AUS,USA)
M Judo +95kg (EUN,JPN,FRA+HUN)
F 200m Freestyle (USA,GER,GER)
F 200m Breast (JPN,CHN,USA)
F 10m Swimjump (CHN,EUN,USA)
F Judo +72kg (CHN,CUB,ITA+JPN)
F Sport pistol(EUN,CHN,MGL)
 
M 100m Freestyle (EUN,BRA,FRA)
M 200m Backstroke (ESP,EUN,ITA)
M Air-pistol 60s+10s (CHN,EUN,ROM)
M Weight lifting 60kg (TUR,BUL,CHN)
M Wrestling 52kg (NOR,EUN,KOR)
M           68kg (HUN,EUN,USA)
M          100kg (CUB,EUN,EUN)
M Judo 95kg
  Skeet (CHN,PER,ITA)
F 400m Freestyle (GER,USA,AUS)
F 100m Backstroke (HUN,HUN,USA)
F 4x100m Freestyle relay (USA,CHN,GER)
F Judo 72kg
F Gymnastics team
 
 
I will post the complete medal count every few days.
--
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* Ron stole Meggie's heart away; And I got Sidney's leg.                  *
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From: jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: arrogance
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:47:20 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <19752@> liang@cs.arizona.edu (Song Liang) writes:
>
>    I didn't feel so strongly the U.S arrogance until this Olympic started.
>As many netters have pointed out, NBC's commentators's derogatory comments
>on Chinese players are really hard to put up with, not to mention the
>rumors about steroid usage.  When showing today's men's diving prilim, 
>the NBC commetator asked a question when Tan Liangde leaded by a big
>margin, "how many gold medals have Chinese men divers won in Olympic history?",
>after a brief pause, he answered the question cockyly:"None, the best they
>got was a silver".

The 99% viewers are Americans, and the media live on the advertising income.
They simply can not afford to turn the viewers off, which means they
will do everything possible to keep the U.S. audience interested in 
the game. They spent lots of money doing the broadcasting. Unfortunately
they believe what they are doing is what the audience want, which may not
be true. Also, lots of the commentators are former athletes and they
are very emotionally attached(therefore become unprofessional).

Not trying to justify their doing, just so you know there are reasons
behind all these. 

>                   Any reasonable people should agree that in last Olympic
>Game in Seoul, the men's platform gold medal should have gone to China's
>Xiong Ni if the judges hadn't helped Loganis(sp?) of the U.S team in an unusual
>way.   Nobody can deny the U.S is a great country, but the breath of mind of
>some (famous) people make me really upset.

Me too, was really pissed. :-) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: Forwarding - Re: Chicago Tribune: How Zhuang Won Gold Medal
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:17:50 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.191404.5848@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>Having seen too much nonsense about the training system for athletes, 
>I can't help asking one simple question: how can China make a show by 
>using other system, under the circumstances that it is a poor country 
>with 1.2 million people?
          ^^^^^^^ billion

>
>Find a solution before you complain.
> ...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: jifeng@aragorn.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Jifeng Zhang x-6315)
Subject: Looking for Ms. Zha Wen-Xing (from Yunnan)
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:47:22 GMT


Hi, friends:

Could you help me to contact Ms. Zha Wen-Xing? It is said she is in USA.
She got her M.S. from the Institute of Systems Science, Academia Sinica
in about 1988, and then worked at Yunnan University, P.R. China. One of
her supervisor Professor Li Guo-Ying said she might be with Maryland.

Thanks in advance, guys.

Ji-Feng (jifeng@ice.mcrcim.mcgill.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: jialin@bios.botany.uga.edu (Jialin Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: San Mao's books
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:50:45 GMT
Organization: Biological Sciences Division - University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Jul30.053802.13869@> liu9yong@athena.mit.edu writes:
>
>Most of the female-written novels are self-pitying novels, and three-hair is
>no exception.
>
>Look, this majority-of-css-are-male group only discuss Qiong-Yao and San-Mao!
>Can we Chinese men have more "manness"? No wonder "western" women don't want
>to date us! :-(
>
>Oh, forget to mention that only Lao lix and a couple of other married-with-
>wife-and-children talk about Tai-Shi-Gong and Johnny.

You forgot they like LHM also. :-)
From: byang@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu (Bin Yang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Lin Li won gold in 200 IM
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:14:27 GMT


	Lin Li has won a gold medal in women's 200 IM with a new world 
record. USA's Summer Sanders won a silver.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,rec.sport.olympics
From: fortony@sonne.cso.uiuc.edu
Subject: Re: Proud and Angry
Originator: fortony@murphy
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:26:12 GMT

zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:

>In article <fortony.712455562@murphy> fortony@sonne.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>>
>>Sorry to hear it.  I was being quite serious.  If given a choice between
>>watching a technically perfect but somewhat boring Chinese diver who's
>>guaranteed to win and watching an older, flawed but spirited American
>>diver, I'm going to make the second choice every time.  At least the
>>American had expressions on her face.

>Even though I finally find out that you were serious, I would like take 
>your above statements as another joke. What kind of impressive expressions
>had you observed in her, while many others might have missed? I was so 
>dumb that I didn't notice the reason for which the coverage focused on her 
>face for that long. 

After a bad dive, you could read the sadness on her face.  After a good
dive, you could tell that she was happy with herself.

The winning diver made technically perfect dives and got out of the
water looking as if she were a bored robot.  Sure, she won the gold,
but NBC is an American company broadcasting to America.  It's only
natural for NBC to concentrate on that which Americans are interested
in: interesting American competitors.  Relax a little.

>>I don't know the first thing about Olympic Diving.  I'm not watching
>>it for the technical angle, I'm watching it for the human, competitive
>>angle.  The Chinese diver could have been a robot, and nobody would
>>have noticed.  Period.

>I see. Let's go outside to watch those kids playing all kinds of games.
>They are nearer to the real life, vivid, competitive and clumsy.

The kids outside are not competing for their country.  Please.

>Maybe Litheuwan(?) will be the next.

Lithuania, in English.
-- 
a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
Felix Sebastian Ortony	fortony@murphy.gis.uiuc.edu
From: yidao@cae.wisc.edu (Yidao Cai)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Where is the International Line Airport in Wu3 Han4
Date: 25 Jul 92 20:33:07 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering

In article <1992Jul22.032128.25605@cucs5.cs.cuhk.hk> cmhui@cucs18.cs.cuhk.hk (Hui Chau Man) writes:
>Does anyone know where the International Line Airport of Wu3 Han4
>locates, Wu3 Chang1, Han4 Kou3 or Han4 Yan2?
>
>Internet: cmhui@cucs18.cs.cuhk.hk

Previously in Wuchang (Nanhu/south lake Airport).  The nearly completed
Tianhe Airport (river in heaven) is located in Hankou, but I am not sure 
if it is opened or not because it has been 3 years since I left Wuhan. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: dong@umiacs.umd.edu (Dong Chen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,alt.chinese.text,talk.politics.china
Subject: UM-CGSA network
Date: 28 Jul 92 05:34:01 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Distribution: dc
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742

This is to remind you there's an official University of Maryland,
Chinese Graduate Student Association network.
You can read and post informations, opinions related to Chinese in Maryland
to this network.
To subscribe, send mail to me.
To post to the network, send your mail to cgsa@fuzzy.umd.edu

---------------------------------
Subject: Protection bill

Dear members,
As you know, the protection bill now is in a critical situation.
Here, I would like to appeal the support from UM Chinese community.
For the status of the bill , please see the forward messages from
the IFCSS Headquarter.

This bill is important for all Chinese, not only limit those benifit
directly
from the bill. As you know, the immigration process line was backed two
years and stopped advance a few month ago. By relief a large number of
people, new applicants can be processed much faster.
Also, the quota of the bill will be borrowed from the invest immigrate
quota from future. Since the immigation law modifies every few years,
this type of borrow effectively will create more quota for the whole
Chinese immigants.

The things will need to do now is to call up the Judiciary Committee
of House, and ask them to support the Chinese Protection Bill, S1216.
Their phone number will be posted tomorrow by IFCSS.
It will take only a few minutes to call, and you will greatly benifit
for you future.

Also, for near future lobby activities and effectively use the donation
fund, we are organizing a local supporting group here. 
We need to find overnight stay places for lobby groups from other areas.
If you can provide such hospitality or your friends can, please conact
me.

CGSA is considering to draft a formal letter for Maryland congressmen and
Senators, please express your opinion and send it to me.

Remember this might be our last chance for such protection bill. It will
save much of your money and effort if we all work together.
For donation to the lobby, make check to "CSS/Protection",IFCSS,733 15th
Street, N.W., Suite 440, Washington, D.C.20005
Or send to Dong Chen/ LPR, On campus. I will forward to the IFCSS.

________________________
Dong Chen                               (301)405-5038 (o)
Lab. of Plasma Research                 (301)314-9437 (fax)
University of Maryland                  dong@fuzzy.umd.edu
College Park, MD20742, USA         dong_chen@umail.umd.edu


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: ysun@cs.washington.edu (Ying Sun)
Subject: Advice on Applying for Schools in U.S.
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 22:58:27 GMT

    My brother is interested in applying for the graduate schools in
the U.S.  He has a 3-year college degree (Da\ Zhuan-) in international
trade from a university in China.  And he has been working in a
company for two years.  My brother is willing to apply for any program
close to his major.  But the problem is almost all universities (even
some small universities) require a bachelor's degree to apply for the
graduate school.

    - Does anybody know of any graduate schools that admit students 
      without a bachelor's degree?  (Presumably my brother can get 
      good scores in TOFEL and GRE/GMAT.)

    Another choice for my brother is to spend another year in the
undergraduate program.  But there is little chance for a foreign
undergraduate student to get financial aid (e.g. tuition waiver) from
the unversity.  In this case it is very difficult to get the visa,
even if there is proof of personal fund available.	

    - Is there anybody out there who is studying undergraduate here?  
      Can you share your experience such as 

      - Were you able to get financial aid from the school?
      - How difficult was it to get your visa?  
      - What materials/files will especially help to get the visa?

    Please send your reply to ysun@cs.washington.edu.  Thanks in advance 
for your information.

Ying 
Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:21324 rec.sport.olympics:1516
From: roten@CUBA.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Roten)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Proud and Angry
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:22:51 GMT
	<scrotch.712369624@milton> <Bs4L6o.HK2@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Organization: /cuba_b/dirbe/roten/.organization
X-Newsreader: GNU Emacs 18.57.1, GNUS 3.13, NNTP 3.10

In article <Bs4L6o.HK2@acsu.buffalo.edu> lan@acsu.buffalo.edu (Yan Lan) 
writes:

   Hi! friends:

   I have been watching the Olympic Games these days and very proud of 
   Chinese Olypians. They did great job.

   But I am so angry about the local newspaper's comments on the Chinese 
   gold medalist Zhuang Yong and other Chinese swimmers. they spread 
   rumors that Chinese girls must have taken some banned substances to 
   enhance their performances. They print a uglified picture of Zhuang 
   Yong and herald  BULK MUSCLES ...STYROID... and something like that.

   The TV sports commentors' attitude toward Chinese swimmers,divers and 
   gamnasts also made me upset.This morning they made so much noise about 
   a Amercian girl and I thought she won the gold medal. But actually she 
   ended up with a bronze (fortunatlly!). A Japanese girl won the gold, 
   and Chinese LIN LI won the silver.

   What do you think?!

Chill out, Yan!  

You are justifiably angry at American news-critters.  But any American 
with the brains that Ghod promised an animal cracker knows that TV news 
is straight TABLOID!  And most newspapers are no better!  

It has been DECADES since I last relied on the 'tube' as my principal 
news source.  And for once, I suspect I have a LOT of company!  
Those sensationalist *ssholes have reduced the Presidential election 
process in this country to talk show appearences and sound bytes, for 
Pete's sake!  And everybody knows it!  How can anyone with an ounce of 
common sense take their ravings seriously ?  

Check out the movie 'Network', which has been playing on some of the cable 
movie channels recently.  This film came out more than _15_ _years_ _ago_.  
That dark satire will give you a perspective on how many *Americans* see 
television, and television news.  It will also give you a good laugh .. 
at the expense of the idiots libelling the athletes from your country!  

BTW, do you know what I do when I *really* want to hear the news ?  I 
turn on my short wave set, and tune in BBC World Service, or (for news 
from the Pacific Basin) Radio Austrailia, at the beginning of the hour.  
Do that, and you will not hear any of the yuppie b*llsh*t that so 
monopolizes television newspaper reporting today.  You will just hear 
something that has gone out of style in the press these days .. the news.  

--
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: Sanyee_Tang@mindlink.bc.ca (Sanyee Tang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Chicago Tribune: How Zhuang Won Gold Medal
Date: 28 Jul 92 05:00:47 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

    In article <1992Jul28.031851.4915@ctr.columbia.edu> (28 Jul 1992)
Yuan Jiang writes,

> When I turned on the TV in the middle of the 400 women IM metal ceremony,
> I eyes naturally focused on the Asian (Lin Li) first.  Oh, it's a man.
> It must be a man's event.  But wait a second, the gold and bronze medallists
> were all women.  I was confused for a long while until the TV displayed
> do not know how muscular she is.

Canadian CTV broadcasted a short interview with Li.  Boy, what a voice,
coarse and low, more masculine than many males :-).  The translator spoke
sweet feminine English.  I got confused at first, Li Lin's English is that
good?  It took me quite a while to realized that the "male" voice was in
Mandarin :-).

    Zhuang Yong's physique looks exactly like Li's.  Fortunately, the Silver
Medallist Jenny Thompson is a fair-looking girl, it convinced me that Zhuang's
record is reachable for women.
From: shanwang@sara.cc.utu.fi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: RE: S_C_C_Politics_Talk, After Graduation :)
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:42:50 GMT
Organization: University of Turku, Finland



	To be continued +----------+----------+-----------+-----------+


	But that is another thing. My opinion, for a mere student, even
	though he still remember his nation, the better thing to do  is  
	try his own best and try make some achievement in his own field
	obviously and respectfully. So everyone can see the nice fellow
	realy present the recreativity and genuiouness od Chinese race.


	That is raly true. Please excuse my sour-style opinion.   I  am
 	neither cool nor radical. But I am realistic and self-concious.
	A couple of months ago I met a good friend who tell me one say-
	ing, " Do something instead of commenting some great opinion. "
	Regretfully I should say it is a turth  but also  lesson to me.
	So I think it is better for Xiao Dong to follow up.


	That's true. No point to declare any  great  political  stands. 
	Almost every Chinese love their nation. Even though  they  com-
	plain so much about China, CCP or so on. That's the  things  on 
	Politics arena. It's beeter no but no point to talk that. 


	I still remembere that there was a famous Mao's saying, That is
	" We are from different regions, but  merge  together  for  the
	aim ". That is what I am about to express. Because we  all  are	
	Chinese, and all still want to do some contribution to her,  so
	we are friends. Of course everyone's ability is different.  For
	me at least I am thinking about that. 


	So, friends let's cool down for a while. I think in Xiao Dong's
        case, the best and wise way is just " do something, not comment
	too many things "  That is a small case.  If  we  overview  the 
        situation in China, I think it is also better to do  more thing
	instead of critizing too much. That is my  realistic  but  wise 
	advice for Xiao Dong. 


	Do you want to ask what is my proposal  after  graduation ?  No 
	idea yet. The only thing I want  to  do  is  just  studying and 
	improving myself in many cases, now. I guess it is also my opi-
	nion for Xiao Dong.


	But if you want to now what I want to do  if I  realy  will  go 
	back, I vote for Education. I am not keen on that. But I  guess 
	that is most neccesary for the Vistas of Chinese nation. Excuse
	me, now I am realy a little bulshifting:)


	But please do not forget that we are living in a foreign socie-
	ty. As a foreign student we should all adjust this society  and
	do some contribution  to it  more or less. Otherwise how should
	they offer our bread ?  Please understand with each other, ok:)


	To be contunued +----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+
From: lb40+@andrew.cmu.edu (Liping Bu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Time: China has only 60 swimming pools
Date: 27 Jul 92 11:39:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.keR53Te00Uh_04qZJc
	<1992Jul27.051847.20648@rigel.econ.uga.edu>
Organization: Doctoral student, History, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

It's not just a qustion of 60 swimming pools. It has more to do with
journalism itself. Where is the objectivity and professionalism that
journalists are supposed to have? The article deteriatated from
reporting truth into a second-rate propaganda.I would suggest that Time
make formal apology for its mistake.
From: jamesou@ZYGOTE.HSC.USC.EDU (James Ou)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Li3 Xue2 (was Re: Curious!)
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:42:39 GMT


In <1072@pga.ts.com>, pk99nom@pga.ts.com (Pal K.) writes:

>In article <199207202328.AA03386@thames.bu.edu> lix@bucrsb.bu.edu writes:
>>LiXue scholars kept talking about it. This would be an interesting topic:-)
>
>Where is James? :-)

I am here, Pal. :-)  I have been very busy lately after I got
back from my trips 3 weeks ago. I am still busy now, but it is
getting better. I tried to send an email to you without success.
Well, talking about Lixue, I remember a few names: Cheng2 Yi2,
Cheng2 Hao4, Zhu1 Xi1, Bai2 Lu4 Dong4 Shu1 Yuan4, Wang2 Yang2
Ming2, Gu4 Xian4 Cheng2, Dong1 Lin2 Shu1 Yuan4...   Oh, BTW, Gu4
Xian4 Cheng2 was the person who wrote this couplet and posted it
on the door of Dong Lin college:

  Feng1 Sheng2, Yu3 Sheng2, Du2 Shu1 Sheng2, Sheng1 Sheng1 Ru4 Er3,

  Jia1  Shi4,   Guo2 Shi4,  Tian1 Xia4 Shi4, Shi4  Shi4 Guan1 Xin1.

  (The sounds of wind, rain and studying all came to my ears;
   The affairs of my family, my country and the world all concern me.)

Those poor Dong1 Lin2 people, they eventually became Gang of Dong
Lin (Dong1 Lin2 Dang3) and got killed. Oh, well, that was another
chapter of Chinese history.  <sigh>


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: bli@spock.ecs.umass.edu (Bo Li)
Subject: Re: Olympics News from AP 7-27-92
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:53:48 GMT

The recent news from CNN -- China add two more gold medals.
Wang Yifu (shooting)
unclear --


-- 


_____________________________________________________________________

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Subject: Re: Time: China has only 60 swimming pools
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 03:49:16 GMT

In article <keR53Te00Uh_04qZJc@andrew.cmu.edu> lb40+@andrew.cmu.edu (Liping Bu) writes:
>It's not just a qustion of 60 swimming pools. It has more to do with
>journalism itself. Where is the objectivity and professionalism that
>journalists are supposed to have? The article deteriatated from
>reporting truth into a second-rate propaganda.I would suggest that Time
>make formal apology for its mistake. 

At least, sports should be separated with politics. I always thought
China or USSR didn't do that. Seems I was wrong.

Tingli Pan
From: jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Proud and Angry
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:34:22 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <ROTEN.92Jul29> roten@CUBA.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Roten) writes:
....
>
>Those sensationalist *ssholes have reduced the Presidential election 
>process in this country to talk show appearences and sound bytes, for 
>Pete's sake!  And everybody knows it!  How can anyone with an ounce of 
>common sense take their ravings seriously ?  

I thought this is the Great American Virtue that I really enjoy. :-)
Actually you can not know it's good or bad until 20 years or maybe
100 years later.