HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sybok@athena.mit.edu (The Rifleman)
Subject: Re: Guns, and the necessity to trust our governement.
Keywords: guns and surrealism
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 20:44:22 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.124205.20346@greco-prog.fr> pelegrin@zephyr.greco-prog.fr (Francois PELLEGRINI) writes:
>	I was talking about the U.S. Supreme Court saying that it was not
>anti-constitutional to have american forces arrest people outside the 
>frontiers of the United States, whether the implied foreign country 
>agreed or not.

"Anti-constitutional"?  The Supremes said was not _unconstitutional_ for
the US to kidnap people who were not American citizens.  This should be
clear, because the Bill of Rights protects only American citizens.  If you
don't like the government doing this, which a reasonable man might not,
you must find some other way of making sure it doesn't happen.  The
Supremes can't make law.  They can act only in "specific cases & 
controversies"--they can only act based on what the Constitution says,
not based on a moral-ethical code.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french,talk.politics.guns
From: sybok@athena.mit.edu (The Rifleman)
Subject: Re: Guns, and the necessity to trust our governement.
Keywords: guns and surrealism
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 04:09:53 GMT

In article <26720@life.ai.mit.edu> benjamin@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Benjamin Renaud) writes:
>Well, the thing is you see, guns will -never- help you against a
>government. The day there is a coup d'etat in the US (which will have
>the support of the army, because it needs it),
>n ** you will look rather silly waving you little colt at a BIG TANK !!**

Bullshit.  Half the homes in the US have guns in them.  Guerrilla warfare,
whereby armed citizens snipe government troops from buildings, sabotage
their equipment, shoot at tank crews, kill government leaders, and so
forth, is a very effective strategy.  The Afgan rebels didn't have the
sophisticated machinery of the Soviets, and yet their effort made a
difference.

>The US has the biggest (and best of course...) military in the world.
>A few (even a few milion) hunting rifles will do NOTHING against it.

What about a few million AR-15 military-style semi-autos?  The NRA
supports private ownership of these weapons precisely because the 
Second Amendment IS ABOUT defense against tyranny
>
>Now, guns save no one. 

HA HA!!!  According to independent researcher Gary Kleck, one million
crimes per year in the US are repelled by firearms.  You only need
look at the LA riots and see store owners defending themselves and their
businesses to see the value of firearms in defense of life, liberty, and
property.

>Look at Europe. If guns save people in the US,
>it's ONLY BECAUSE THE SAME GUNS WERE MADE AVAILABLE TO CRIMINALS.

Wrong.  Using a gun against a criminal assault is THE MOST EFFECTIVE
MEANS OF ENDING THE ATTACK WITHOUT BEING HURT--IT'S EVEN MORE EFFECTIVE
THAN OFFERING NO RESISTANCE!!!  THIS HOLDS TRUE AGAINST ATTACKERS WIELDING
ONLY BRUTE STRENGTH OR EDGED WEAPONS!!!

>A gun, like tobacco, is a government approved good which, when used as
>directed, causes death.

And I WELCOME and APPROVE DEATH--DEATH FOR CRIMINALS WHO ATTACK
LAW ABIDING CITIZENS--OLD MEN AND YOUNG WOMEN--WITH KNIVES AND BRUTE
STRENGTH . . . DEATH FOR TYRANTS LIKE ADOLF HITLER AND HIS FASCIST
OLIGARCHY OF GENOCIDE. 

And indeed, I WOULD RISK MY LIFE FOR THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS,
.  .  . THE RIGHT TO BE FREE.

"Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils."
 --General John Stark


I don't see rampant crime in Switzerland or Israel, both of which allow
their citizens to exercise the right to keep and bear arms.

You see, the citizens of those countries recognize that a tyrannt doesn't
understand reason, but only _force_ . . . the force of law abiding armed
citizens.
From: picquend@unix1.cs.umass.edu (Marc Picquendar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
Subject: Re: Salut tout le monde (was) Re: Languedoc
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:01:05 GMT
Reply-To: picquend@unix1.cs.umass.edu (Marc Picquendar)
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <DELPHINE.92Aug18183516@wpi.WPI.EDU> delphine@wpi.WPI.EDU (Delphine Clomenil) writes:
>Moi-Meme:
>
>L'avantage des news c'est qu'il n'y a pas grand risque qu'un d'entre
>vous se pointe chez moi de toute facon... surtout que de Toulouse ca
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>fait un peu cher!  Ben oui, je m'emmerde serieusement a Worcester
														 ^^^^^^^^^
>(c'est les vacances et tout le monde est parti depuis trois mois!)
>alors c'est sympa de delirer un petit peu.
>
>Surtout n'arretez pas!
>
>A ciao bonsoir,
>Delphine
>--
>	Delphine Clomenil (delphine@wpi.wpi.edu)  We Pay Incredibly
>

Ouais, mais tout le monde n'est pas si loin, a trois, j'enfourche
mon velo ... :^)

Marc
From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
Subject: Re: Courte phrase avec les 10 accents
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:30:28 GMT
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

In article <1992Aug18.101850.13935@jussieu.fr> mgi@ccr-p6.ccr.jussieu.fr (Marc GIRONDOT p75783) writes:
>
>Et en passant un plainte... Dites, cela coutait vraiment plus cher
>de faire un systeme avec 8 bits et non pas 7 pour que l'on puisse 
>ecrire correctement.
>
>Marc

En fait, le code ASCII etait initialement a 6 bits (pas de minuscules) dans
certaines machines parce que c'etaient des machines a 6 bits (la serie CDC).
Certaines machines anciennes de UNIX ont des entiers de 18 bits (3 fois 6)
pour cette raison.  Les codes a 7 bits ont suivi.  C'est quand les codes
a 8 bits sont apparus que le bordel a commence (3 normes au moins : ANSI
sur UNIX et MS-Windows, IBM-PC sur MS-DOS et similaires SAUF Windows, et
Macintosh).

-- 
  \_\    Denis Beauregard  *  internet:beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca
 /   \   Genealogiste officiel : Beauregard/Jarret/Jarest/Vincent
J   __>  Barthelemy Jarret (1471) -> Andre Jarret, sieur de Beauregard (1665)
\_.-===   -> Denis Beauregard (1992)                  Opinions ? Et pis non !
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
From: jpl1@Ra.MsState.Edu (John Patrick Lestrade)
Subject: Re: Pub. Air-France sur TV5
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:31:50 GMT

Dites-moi, quand je suis parti de france (il y a 3 mois) il n'y avait
pas un TV5.   Qu'est-ce qui se passe maintenant? C'est revenu?
patrick

--
John Patrick Lestrade, PhD                             jpl1@ra.msstate.edu
Department of Physics and Astronomy                    batse::lestrade  (SPAN)
Mississippi State University, MS 39762                 lestrade@msstate.bitnet
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
From: jpl1@Ra.MsState.Edu (John Patrick Lestrade)
Subject: Re: Mr Rifleman, my hero!!!
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:49:37 GMT

gros@sunra6.cern.ch (Jean-Philippe Gros) writes:

>with cow-boys stories, "the wild-west" and country music.
>	They are not to blame, we must forgive them...
>Jean-Philippe.  

Un moment, Jean-Philippe.  What do you have against "Country" music.
It happens to be much more pacifistic than rock.....US or french.
(PS Moi, je n'aime pas de tout le country music.  Je prefere le rock ou
le jazz.  Mais, vous avez tort, grand fada, d'inclure ce genre de
musique dans votre attaque.)

--
John Patrick Lestrade, PhD                             jpl1@ra.msstate.edu
Department of Physics and Astronomy                    batse::lestrade  (SPAN)
Mississippi State University, MS 39762                 lestrade@msstate.bitnet
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
From: bfatyga@kiowa.ucs.indiana.edu
Subject: Re: Paris - Paleaseau 
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:49:26 GMT

In article <BszEEK.1zr@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>  
fturi@lambert.uwaterloo.ca (TURI Francois) writes:
> In article <1992Aug13.220318.24075@walter.bellcore.com>,  
enis@thumper..bellcore.com (A. Enis Cetin) writes:
> > 
> > I will be visiting Ecole Polytechnique in Paleaseau next
> > month. How far is Paleaseau from Paris ? How can I get
> > to Paleaseau from Paris ? 
> 
>         If my i could trust my memory, Palaiseau should be near Orsay.
> Basicaly you have to take R.E.R. B to the University of Orsay (It's  
about 40
>  minutes and 30 km: South of Paris). At Orsay, Polytechnique is at 3 km,  
near Supelec (E.S.E).
>         But maybe I confused Polytechnique with an other university ...
______
> Francois TURI is:
> 
>         fturi@undegrad.math.waterloo.edu

Francois is correct. Take RER line B (make sure it goes to St  
Remy-les-Chevreuse, not all B trains go there). The RER stop closest to  
Ecole Polytechnique is called Lozere (again, make sure the particular  
train stops at Lozere). The train ride takes about 40 min from the center  
of Paris. From the Lozere RER stop you can walk (up a steep hill, but not  
too far) to Ecole Polytechnique.
Enjoy your trip!
                   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
From: gros@sunra6.cern.ch (Jean-Philippe Gros)
Subject: Re: Guns, Motorcycles, and Internet Access
Reply-To: gros@sunra6.cern.ch
Organization: Cern
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 08:18:48 GMT

In article 5747@transfer.stratus.com, cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.145230.29588@cari.telecom.uqam.ca>, berstel@mipsmath.math.uqam.ca (Bruno Berstel) writes:
>> Well it just happens that in France the former reflects the latter. This is
>> due to a complex mechanism where French people choose some of them according
>> to their opinions, to represent them and draft the laws. This system was
>> first used in Greece and evolved throughout time; its success is enforced
>> through the education of the people, one great concern in France.
>> 
>> FYI it is known under the name of democracy. 
>
>BZZZZT, it's a "republic," quite different from the Greek "democracy,"

!!!!!!!!!!!

	As you don't seem to know the difference : a "democraty" is a system where 
"the people have the power", whereas a republic is a system of government for a 
country.
	France is definitly a republic, but I hope it is also a democracy, as the
US are.


>but thank you for playing.
>-- 

Et merci d'avoir joue.

>
>cdt@pdp.sw.stratus.com      --If you believe that I speak for my company,
>OR cdt@vos.stratus.com        write today for my special Investors' Packet...


Jean-Philippe.

PS. I don't followup to talk.politics.guns.
 

  
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
From: gsmith@cwis.unomaha.edu (Greg Smith)
Subject: Re: Nom d'un film-comedie avec un Rabin et plein de chewing-gum
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Distribution: soc.culture.french
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 04:16:01 GMT
From: marchi@helium.cchem.berkeley.edu (Massimo Marchi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
Subject: Re: HELP! PARIS INFO NEEDED!
Date: 16 Aug 92 16:21:16 GMT
Organization: Dept of Chemistry, University of California at Berkeley(not there anymore)

In article <16lppfINNg2d@grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr> Christophe.Wolfhugel@univ-lyon1.fr (Christophe Wolfhugel) writes:
>In article <BETSYS.92Aug16020936@ra.cs.umb.edu> betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz) writes:
>>Private baths are mostly luxury class. When in Europe, live as the
>>Europeans do. 
>
>J'ai mal compris ou Elizabeth essaye de nous faire passer pour des
>attardes.  Il serait peut-etre bien de rappeler que le Yemen n'est pas
>un pays voisin de la France...

Geez, why do you even think you have misunderstood! You must have lived
too long outside the area code (1), where you are in contact with
American tourists on a daily basis. Ms. Schwartz is an example of what
we get here in Paris: Big American women (I dunno if she is big, but
she definitely sounds like a big one) hanging around near l'Arc de
trionf in phosphorescent clothes, eating "pizza hut" pizzas, reading
supermarket books, pretending to be interested in the city (but
secretly dreaming of going back as soon as possible to kokomo,
Indiana) and being utterly embarrassed by all that indecency going on
in museums. Of course this is a generalization.  Unbelievable enough,
at least from what you read on USENET, there are many civilized
Americans. PERHAPS, Ms. Schwartz and the other folk, so worried about
the "safety" of his GF, don't belong to this category.  Maybe the
latter should send her here with a handgun. Might become useful if what
happens in Bosnia spreads or the "routiers" go on strike again:-)


>
>Enfin pour rassurer certains, nous avons generalement l'eau courante
>et l'electricite! haha.

Yes, but the bathrooms (restrooms, for the polite American) are uglier 
than in the good old USA: the pipes are on the outside, how yukky!!

>
>Enfin je suppose qu'Elizabeth pensait aux superbes et comfortables
>palaces que sont la plupart des cites-U...
>

I wish her luck in Boston. Hope never to see her here.

mm
From: mgi@ccr-p6.ccr.jussieu.fr (Marc GIRONDOT p75783)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
Subject: Re: Sylvuck part 3/3
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:54:19 GMT
Organization: Universites P. & M. Curie / D. Diderot



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Je ne sais pas si c'est ressemblant mais pour l'instant tu
n'es pas tres a ton avantage... En fait je dois l'avouer je 
ne suis pas un familier des alt.sex.bidule et je ne sais pas
quoi faire de ca... Pourrais-tu transmettre la procedure 
d'encodage (BINHEX ?) et le format du fichier graphique...
Merci, et desole de mon ignorance dans le sujet.

Rassure toi ce n'est pas pour ta photo que je demande ca
mais je m'entraine au cas ou Delphine ferai parvenir la 
sienne.

Marc
From: sylvain@cert.fr (Sylvain Chretien)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
Subject: Re: R.V.
Date: 21 Aug 92 08:32:01 GMT
Organization: CERT, CS Dpt. Toulouse, France

In article <1992Aug20.142551.14774@greco-prog.fr>, pelegrin@brol.greco-prog.fr (Francois PELLEGRINI) writes:
|> In article <569@tls-cs.cert.fr>, sylvain@cert.fr (Sylvain Chretien) writes:
|> |> In article <1992Aug19.152646.6283@greco-prog.fr>, pelegrin@brol.greco-prog.fr (Francois PELLEGRINI) writes:
|> |> |> 	Je propose plutot que vous fassiez un concours du signe de reconnaissance le
|> |> |> plus bizarre: a une date fixee, chacun s'amene avec un truc original, sans prevenir
|> |> |> les autres de ce que ca sera. Si c'est bien choisi, vous devriez tous vous retrouver...
|> |> |> Du style:
|> |> |> - un jambonneau
|> |> |> - un arrosoir (merci Binet pour ces 2 suggestions)
|> |> |> - un nain en platre de jardin (avec brouette et fleurs dedans)
|> |> |> 	etc...
|> 
|> |>  	C'est pas mauvais ca comme idee, moi je suis pour et si Frnacois est
|> |> d'accord il sera le bien venu ce soir la au Pont-Neuf. Alors Delphine,
|> |> Sylvain, Luc, et les autres qu'en pensez-vous?
|> 
|> 	Pwesentement, y'a pas de pwobleme, patwon!
|> 
|> 	Avec le magnifique TeuGueuVeu, Bordeaux-Toulouse ne devrait pas prendre
|> trop de temps. Et pis, comme je connais pas la ville rose (pardon, rhoooose),
|> ca sera l'occasion...
|> 
|> 	Pour la date, voyez ca avec ma secretaire...

	Ca depend, elle est commetn la secretaire? (non je ne suis pas un obsede, ce n'est pas parce que j'ai la bace au levres...)
 

Sylvain Chretien			e-mail: sylvain@tls-cs.cert.fr

Le g'and noi' Mamadou concessionnaire iseki vous salue bien dit don' bwanas.
From: maillet@tls-cs.cert.fr (Luc Maillet)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
Subject: Re: Salut tout le monde (was) Re: Languedoc
Date: 18 Aug 92 12:28:55 GMT
Organization: CERT Toulouse Dept of Computer Science, FRANCE

In article <537@tls-cs.cert.fr>, sylvain@tls-cs.cert.fr (Sylvain Chretien) writes:
|> In article <DELPHINE.92Aug17113755@wpi.WPI.EDU>, delphine@wpi.WPI.EDU (Delphine Clomenil) writes:
|> 
|> |> Hawai.... le pays du surf et du fun board... avec tous ces mecs
|> |> baraques qui ne demandent rien de mieux que d'apprendre aux jeunes
|> |> filles a faire du surf.  Quoi que moi mon truc c'est plutot le fun
|> |> board (jamais mis les pieds sur un surf!).  On fait un deal?  Celui
|> |> qui gagne la competition (le vainqueur etant nomme par un commite
|> |> comprenant... moi) me paie le billet d'avion?
|> |> Ciao
|> |> 
|> 				
|> 	Non mais pas besoin d'aller a hawai pour trouver des mecs baraques, il y en a a toulouse, n'est-ce-pas ZoZo ? Au fait zuckzuck qu'est-ce-que tu fais, on ne t'entend pas ? Fais pas la gueule, on va les mater tout ces comiques. Pour la compete je dis c'est|>  pas du jeu parceque j'ai jamais mis les pieds sur un surf, il faudra attendre que j'ai subit un entrainement intensif.
|> 
|>  
|> 
|> Sylvain Chretien			e-mail: sylvain@tls-cs.cert.fr
|> 
|> Le g'and noi' Mamadou concessionnaire iseki vous salue bien dit don' bwanas.
|> 
  Alors la je dis STOP! J'ai subi votre joute ecrite pendant vingt-quatre
heures sans pouvoir repondre (mon news-server persistant a envoyer mes arti-
-cles dans dead.letter), mais la, vous allez trop loin!

  Je rencheris sur Sylvuck qui dit (avec quelle justesse) que Toulouse c'est
l'endroit reve pour tous loisirs... meme les mecs baraques, eh oui, les salles
de muscu ne sont pas faites pour les chiens...Et en plus, a Toulouse, on n'est
pas limite aux bieres irlandaises, y a l'Ancienne Belgique qui fait dans
le mondialisme de la boisson...

  Et puis, il y a encore des gens qui craquent sur du romantisme melancolique,
tout de noir vetu, avec une rose rouge comme abandonnee sur une peau pale,
bulle evanescente d'un reve qui fuit, loup noir fuyant sous la lune opaline...

  Si c'est pas le plus bel endroit du monde... et je l'affirme!

						Z. (le vampire melancolique)

  Sylvuck&Zozo, concessionnaires Iseki. Tout le jardinage pres de chez vous.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
From: blanc@caroli.csis.dit.csiro.au (Jacques Blanc-Talon)
Subject: Re: Salut tout le monde (was) Re: Languedoc
Reply-To: blanc@caroli.csis.dit.csiro.au
Organization: CSIRO Division of Information Technology
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 23:19:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.155240.28973@jussieu.fr>, mgi@ccr-p6.ccr.jussieu.fr (Marc GIRONDOT p75783) writes:
> In article <555@tls-cs.cert.fr> sylvain@tls-cs.cert.fr (Sylvain Chretien) writes:
>>	Ok delphine. C'est un peu ca qui nous pousse a delirer de Toulouse car il faut reconnaitre que Toulouse en Juillet et Aout c'est le desert. Donc continuons le delire. Recemment nous nous demandions si tu ne pourrais pas nous envoyer ta photos scannerise, ca serait marrant. Celle de Luc et moi ne devrait pas tarder.
>>
> 
> Ca fait bien 15 jours qu'ils promettent... Et on voit rien venir...
> 
>> 
>>
>>Sylvain Chretien			e-mail: sylvain@tls-cs.cert.fr
>>
>>Le g'and noi' Mamadou concessionnaire iseki vous salue bien dit don' bwanas.
> 
> Marc



  Peut-etre tout simplement que la demoiselle serait davantage interessee par des mensurations,
une liste de diplomes, un releve d'identite bancaire, et une photocopie de la carte grise de la 
Porsche garee dans la cour ? 

  Actuellement, deux tendances sur SCF: - la Boznie (parait qu'il y a des clients mecontents de
voir tomber des eclats d'obus dans leurs cereales, au breakfast du Club Med de Sarajevo) - les
routines dans Xlib de la nouvelle facilite "Delphine" sous XWindows, comprenant notamment un
generateur de texte pseudo-aleatoire, un reply automatique, un systeme d'engorgement des news
a fort taux ... (au moins une fois un truc qui marche sous X).

  Bon, ne croyez pas tout de meme que je suis un affreux misogyne (un beau mysogine, evidemment),
mais a chaque fois qu'une personne de sexe feminin se trouve sur SCF, et seulement sur SCF, alors
obligatoirement ca degenere. "Ta photo scannerisee" ??? Pourquoi pas "Ta voix numerisee" ? J'ai
des tres beaux echantillons vocaux, si vous desirez: sur une Sparc, il suffit de faire un cat dans
/dev/audio. Delphine stp, envoie-nous ton adresse, Interflora deversera des tas de bouquets et de
compositions florales chez toi, que meme la tombe du soldat inconnu au 14 Juillet ressemblera 
a un plateau sec du Sahel en comparaison -

  Au moins, quand on envoie des boutades a Michele Simond, on recupere des citations ou des 
explications de texte; et quand on titille Meryem, on sent l'entropie du reseau qui degringole !!
Tout ca pour dire que la petite peste se montre peu active et bien discrete !

  Alors, SVP, remontez le niveau de SCF, ne le transformez pas en 3615 - MINITEL ROSE.
  Mais restons bien, solidaires, teignards, inderacinables, bourres de defauts ce qui n'est pas une
moindre qualite:
  3615 - L.D.P.



				Achillator number one

***
 

Xref: sparky soc.culture.french:5980 talk.politics.guns:19663
From: berstel@mipsmath.math.uqam.ca (Bruno Berstel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Guns, Motorcycles, and Internet Access in Paris
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:52:30 GMT
Reply-To: berstel@lacim.uqam.ca (Bruno Berstel)
Organization: Universite du Quebec a Montreal

Michael Zeleny <zeleny@husc9.harvard.edu> ecrit:
|>   My interest
|> is solely with the French law, not with the opinions of French nationals;

Well it just happens that in France the former reflects the latter. This is
due to a complex mechanism where French people choose some of them according
to their opinions, to represent them and draft the laws. This system was
first used in Greece and evolved throughout time; its success is enforced
through the education of the people, one great concern in France.

FYI it is known under the name of democracy. 

Bruno.
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Laboratoire de Combinatoire et d'Informatique Mathematique       L.A.C.I.M.
Universite du Quebec a Montreal                                    U.Q.A.M.
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From: larryd@milton.u.washington.edu (Larry Desoto)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
Subject: Re: Guns, and the necessity to trust our governement.
Keywords: guns and surrealism
Date: 20 Aug 92 02:41:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: milton.larryd.714278481
Organization: University of Washington

cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:

>In article <26720@life.ai.mit.edu>, benjamin@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Benjamin Renaud) writes:

>> The US has the biggest (and best of course...) military in the world.
>> A few (even a few milion) hunting rifles will do NOTHING against it.

>Wow, dude, you're right, of course.

>Find "South Vietnam" on a map, for me, will you?  (No, not the OLD map,
>silly.)

>> Now, guns save no one. Look at Europe. 

>Hee hee!  And you had the balls to post this to soc.culture.french?
>(My uncle, who was in Normandy with the boys, sez hi.)

My grandfather who served with the AEF in the Belleu Woods and the Argonne
Forest sez hi too.

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                                        |   lightning gets the job done.
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