HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Fogging and how to stop it?
Summary: Ha Phooo!
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:37:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: elektro.1992Oct13.203739.5484
Organization: Why do you suspect that?

In article <1992Oct12.211605.12270@cis.ohio-state.edu> hogan@blackfoot.cis.ohio-state.edu (christopher hogan) writes:
>In article <1160@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
>>
>>	How do you keep a visor from fogging up?  Are there any
>>	products out there to stop this? 
>
>Shaving cream.  Spread it on and wipe it off.  I'm serious.
>

Pure unadulterated lard works even better.  But, watch out if it has butter
mixed in it.  Also works better in cold weather (when you have a fog problem)
as it tends to get rancid when the weather warms up.


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff
              {  Friends don't let friends use rancid lard  }
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Re: Harley Outperforms ZX11, Film at Eleven
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 13 Oct 92 10:50:55 PDT

In article <1992Oct13.110610.16328@husc3.harvard.edu>, zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes:
> 
> Well, too bad for them then.  I think a manufacturer ought to adapt to the
> demands of the market, not the other way around.  As evidenced by the
> number of people still trying to race their agrarian machinery, Harley
> loses a lot of customers by not building sport bikes.

Harley sells every bike they can make, with a year-long waiting list.  If
they're losing a sportbike customer in favor of a cruiser customer, what
do they care?  They do adjust to the demands of *their* market.

I think it would be nice to have an American manufacturer with a full line
of styles.  I suppose I wouldn't mind Harley being that company.  But I
hope they would add completely new product to create the other lines.  Their
existing bikes are just right for what they are trying to be.

I mean, what's really the big fucking problem here?  If you want a sportbike,
buy a goddamn sportbike.  If you want a cruiser, buy a cruiser.  If you want
a bike that will satisfy every kind of riding as well as bikes that are
specialized for different kinds of ridings, you're shit out of luck.  End
of story.

--
|  Greg Orman                         greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|                   DoD #0486 - '82 Vision 550                   |
|     A man's best friends:  a Harley, a Beretta and a Gund.     |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley Fashionable == Deaths
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:28:06 -0600
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS

In article <4909@prcrs.prc.com>, terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham)
wrote:
> 
> 
> One thing that I don't understand is why HD is popular among yuppie types.
> These people (as a stereotypical group, I suppose) tend to want a certain
> style to their toys that is usually more euro or japanese.   It would seem
> to me that the japanese/italian sport bike or the euro cruiser would be
> more to their taste.   I don't understand why the BMW marque wouldn't be
> considered more yuppie than HD. 

I've a theory that their lifestyle is harried and oppressive enough
that they feel the need to toughen their image.  I'm speaking of those
who aren't high milers nor really interested in fast sport riding. I
guess we are talking instant leather wrapped bike potatoes.
From: MADIF@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com (Jim Foster)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: K75 counterbalancer? (Was: BMW K100rs)
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:10:29 GMT
 du><1992Sep28.134603.15741@javelin.sim.es.com> <1992Sep28.145755.19596@osf.org>
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

In article <1992Sep28.145755.19596@osf.org>, jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S.
Morris) says:
>
>*AND* THE FOUR ISN'T BUZZY!!!! Mine, as well as several others I've

Yes it is.  My K100RS (with the hard-rubber grips) will buzz the bars bad
enough make my hand numb if I ride below 60MPH for any length of time.  The
bike smooths out around 80MPH and remains comfortable up to 120 or so.
--
Jim Foster - madif@rohmhaas.com          (215) 592-2446 (voice) 592-3377 (FAX)
If you want to be happy for a day, drink...
If you want to be happy for a year, marry...                           DoD 142
If you want to be happy for a lifetime, ride a BMW!              '91 K100RS16V
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Why is my face shield so scratched so soon?
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:49:46 GMT

cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:

>Are there helmets with face-shields so easily interchangeable that
>one could put on the tinted shield for day and the clear shield
>for night? Any recommendations?

If I'm all thumbs I can change my Arai Signet's shield in 30 seconds,
less if I'm in a hurry. The Arai shield is also made from the most
scratch resistant plastic I've ever seen. My original shields are about
3 years old now, and have only minor surface scratches.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mfisch@pdx064.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Matthew Fisch)
Subject: Re: If you could pick only 5 bikes...
Reply-To: mfisch@ichips.intel.com
Organization: Workgroup Computing Division, PDX, Intel	
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:00:24 GMT

|> >Okay, denizens...If you could only have 5 bikes in your garage,
|> >what would they be?
|> > 

  - Ducati 888 Roche Replica - Only ridden on Sundays :->
  - Suzuki RGV 500 Gamma (Factory Works of course) - The "shrine" of Schwantz
  - Kawaski-Egli Turbo - For the salt flats...
  - RC-30 - For the ultra-twisties
  - 1990 Suzuki GSXR-1100 - Easy to modify, easy to find parts,...

  Hmmmm...now if I could only find a mechanic to keep all the above
in shape !  

-- 
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|									     |
|   Matt Fisch								     |
|   mfisch@ichips.intel.com						     |
|									     |
|                          #75 - Team Banana Racing 			     |
|				SUZ GSXR-1186				     |
|									     |
|  "Just a little too much right hand and the Australian Grand Prix is over  |
|   for Kevin Schwantz..."						     |
|									     |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: shenry@cs.rice.edu (Sam Henry)
Subject: Re: Bicycle vs motorcycle flame war, part XXXVII
Organization: Rice University, Houston
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:11:44 GMT

All together, now:  Hit ^K and put this in your master kill-file.

Time to take it to e-mail, guys.

-- 
sam henry <shenry@rice.edu>
Wanna ride?
From: osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: counter-steering?
Date: 15 Oct 1992 09:27:56 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Oct15.131854.8402@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>hur@oclc.org (Matt Hur) writes:
>>I overheard some bikers at a local shop talking about "counter-steering".
>>Can someone tell me what that is?  I just steer my bike by turning
>>the bars.

I'm going to actually risk answering this question.  When you're riding
at speed, say above 10 - 20 mph, you turn the bars left to go right and
right to go left.  (ie, push right, go right - push left, go left)
Don't ask why.  (If you must ask why, take the MSF:ERC and
ask the instructor.)  Please note that it is very easy for somebody
to be doing this (counterstearing) and not realize it, the movement
is very subtle.

(Personally, I'm glad he asked.  Maybe it will get rid of some of the
idiotic H-D bickering.)

-
-John H. Osborn
-osborn@cs.utexas.edu
-DOD# 2001  '92 BMW Paris-Dakar
-Queer and Proud



Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Re: Blue over blue pipes
Summary: Blue-Away
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:23:04 GMT

In article <60989@mimsy.umd.edu> leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill) writes:
>While "Blue Away" will remove the blueing from the pipes, it will
>also remove the chrome, or at least the chrome luster.

That's because the blue stuff IS part of the chrome.  When
the pipes get hot enough, the surface of the chrome
oxidizes.  The color changes, with rising temperature, from
silvery chrome to pale golden brown -> darker brown ->
purplish brown -> indigo -> dark blue -> bright blue ->
gray.  By the time it's hot ehough to get to the bright
blue and gray colors, the oxide is starting to flake off
the pipes.

You can see the same colors on a piece of unplated steel if
you shine it up with a bit of steel wool or sandpaper and
out one end in a flame.  The color change is a reliable
indicator of temperature, and people use it when tempering
hardened steel tools.  You have to calibrate the colors
slightly differently for different compositions of steel,
chrome, etc.: I think chrome turns color at a higher
temperature than carbon steel does, fot example.  The
colors are the same for all compositions; I think they're
caused by interference in light waves going in and out of
the thin film of oxide.

THis should be in the FAQ.
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@pangea.stanford.edu
From: rct@fulcrum.bt.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: WHO HARASSES WHOM?
Date: 13 Oct 92 08:59:20 GMT
Organization: Fulcrum Communications

In article <92282.174221JDR118@psuvm.psu.edu> JDR118@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>As a dog lover, I was greatly concerned that a dog would bite a biker!
>Did you insult the dog, such as by riding a Japanese bike which infuriates
>all law abiding Canine-Americans, thus driving him into this criminal act???
>
>                     James D. Ruhlman     1972 Triumph Bonneville 650
>                           DoD#0712       1989 German (-American) Shepherd


Mutts will go for Italian bikes too. No, get that right, mutts will ACCURATELY
go for the MEAT riding on an Italian bike.

We're talking about mutts with grey faces and a limp, no flex in their backs,
generally harmless old dogs, which when presented with a moving target
lose all lethargy, and go for you like their just got re-incarnated as a 
Rottweiller.

When they hit target, they limp off again.
I almost felt sorry for it.

Regards,

============================================================================
Richard Taylor                 DoD #981               (rct@fulcrum.bt.co.uk)
"Would you trust a company who have their bits reversed?".
============================================================================
Fulcrum Communications Ltd., Fordrough Lane, Birmingham, B9 5LD, ENGLAND.
From: root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cost of Bike Helmets
Summary: more information added
Keywords: velcro System-II
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:05:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: elektro.1992Oct9.150548.3760
Followup-To: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org
Organization: Why do you suspect that?

In article <1992Oct8.170351.15884@adobe.com> cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
>charlie@elektro.cmhnet.com
>
>In article <1992Oct8.021424.2645@elektro.cmhnet.org> root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes:
>}Are you aware that the UK BMW System II is not the same as the US System II
>}was?  The UK version has the stupid "thread the buckle" chin strap mandated
>}by the UK safety people - the Everypalce Else version has a velcro chin
>}strap.
>
>?VELCRO? !!!
>
>Skydivers are urged to wear high-top shoes with velcro closures
>because they will get ankle support but THE VELCRO WILL RIP OPEN
>UNDER EXTREME STRESS, thus possibly saving a boot-top ankle fracture.
>
>I swear by Velcro for a lot of things, but I sure as hell don't want
>it holding my helmet on my head when I face-plant.

Sorry Curtis.  In my attempt at brevity, I left out an important part of
the description.

The System II (and III) chinstrap is first closed with velcro and then
you plug together a metal latch assembly to provide the secure grip.
Didn't mean to cause you heart failure thinking all of us over here
were about to lose our heads ...  The velcro just holds the padding
in place under the actual nylon chinstrap.

To remove the chin strap, one presses the latch button and then pulls
the velcro loose.
>-- 
>Curtis Jackson		cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	(415) 962 4905
>USPA #A-10080 (lapsed)				DoD #721  '81 Maxim 650
>  "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff
            {  Friends don't let friends ride Japanese bikes  }
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: R100GS; Drive Splines, I DID IT
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:01:55 GMT

In article <JET.92Oct14151130@boxer.nas.nasa.gov> jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>"phil" == Phil Stone <phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov> writes:
>
>In article <9901037@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller) writes:
>>Betcha can't do that with an FJ.
>
>phil> Betcha Jerry Wills can.
>
>Yeah, but he can kill a deer with a single punch! :-)

Using an impact wrench is cheating.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: ST1100 still reigns supreme
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:38:52 GMT

joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner) writes:

>]]What can you get for a BMW that you can't get for my FJ?

>significantly cheaper insurance, 

I'm paying a couple hundred a year for full coverage, what's your BMW
cost?

>and a BMW [mfg'd by Cross (tm)] pen & pencil set.

And folks say that the DoD has gone off the deep end on merchandising
tie-ins. :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Aerostich, note the spelling. Not stitch. Hork.
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:37:53 GMT

Called Aerostich about order placed 9/10. The man said started sewing
two days ago. Should go out end of the week. 2 days UPS to Illinois.
 
That puts it right on time.
 
So
 
I said throw in hip pads and back protector. Celebration - we're gonna
celebrate and have a good time.
 
================================================================================
 Ipsissimus of the Inner Order of Sesquipedalian Fruitcakes - IIOSF XOX Dawn
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
================================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: FOUND:  Old Honda 450
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 12 Oct 92 11:30:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


-> late 70's.  The emblem on the side said it was a dual cam 450.
...
-> Anyway, does anyone know if it is possible to claim an abandoned
-> vehicle like this, provided its not stolen?

 Depends on your local state laws.  Check with the DMV.


 The Honda 450 was hot stuff in its day, 25 years or so ago...  Its
main claim to fame was the use of torsion bars for valve springs.  I'm
not aware of any other vehicle that did that trick.  Worked fine,
though.

 The only thing you'll need to watch for is any sign of water in the
oil, like from condensation or being rained in.  The engine is all ball
and roller bearing, and if the bearings are corroded, it'd probably not
be worth the money to repair the machine, even if it was free.
  
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From: klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger)
Subject: GSXR transmission problem -> SOLVED <-
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:12:16 GMT



 I posted a few weeks ago about my transmission starting to shift poorly
between first and second gear. I had at that time assumed it had
something to do with oil temperature because it had also suddenly gotten
cold outside. One of the first things I tried at that
time was to bleed the fluid in the hydraulic clutch. The shifting then
worsened somewhat which I again blamed on the now even colder weather. As it
turned out I used some older brake fluid from what I thought was a
sufficiently sealed container. In a desperate move I bought some new
brake fluid and bled the clutch again. Problem solved. Vowing never to
have old brakefluid around again I used the rest of the new fluid to
bleed the brakes. Bonus! I had previously also bleed the brakes with the
same old fluid. That old fluid must have had some water in it or
something allowing it to compress and not give me full clutch
disengagement at high RPM shifts. Cheap fix. I'm a happy guy.

 Oh, and the bike mechanic who tipped me off on this also rode the bike
and commented on my grabby clutch engagement on ultra hard launches. I
told him I thought this was normal for the bike since it had always done
so. He told me no, and asked what kind of oil I was using."Full
synthetic" I replied. "There you go" he said. 
 
 I don't want to start anything but... "?".

 He drag races bikes in his spare time so maybe he knows
something. The bike under a high RPM slipping the clutch kind of launch
will on occasion start slamming the back wheel up and down accompanied
by various chirping/squeeling noises. Anyone else notice this?

__
   Jorg Klinger            |       GSXR1100        | Feed'em to the pigs while
   Arch. & Eng. Services   |          **           | their bones are still 
   UManitoba, Man. Ca.     |"The Embalmer" - IT175 | soft          - anonymous~
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: The Lockheed Star FB-750 (fighter bike
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:30:23 GMT
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <1bjtlkINN46r@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>In article 141092224341@b62003.student.cwru.edu, dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct14.184103.2422@bnr.ca>, mbeaving@bnr.ca (Michael
>>Beavington) wrote:
>>> You also would
>>> have a 'heads up' display inside your helmet
>>
>>That wouldn't be that hard actually, anyone want to take a crack
>>at it?

A little harder than that - the problem is the optics.  You want the
image focused well ahead of the surface of the helmet visor, so you can
watch the road...

>You can buy a similar device that covers one eye.  Developed for
>Apachie Helecoptor pilots, I think.  Steven Roberts pumps an IBM CGA
>display into one, to read news while bicycling.

There you go.  All you need is a motorized prosthetic arm, and a laser
strapped to the side of your head....  "I am Locutus.  Rec.motorcycles
is irrelevant.  The DoD is irrelevant.  You will be assimilated.
Spagthorpe is relevant."

...to boldly ride where no one has rode before...
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: loki@nazgul.physics.mcgill.ca (Loki Jorgenson)
Subject: NTV600 Revealed!!
Organization: Centre for the Physics of Materials
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:11:12 GMT

	You may have been wondering lately how the Honda NTV-600 Revere
is related to the North American model lines.  Maybe not.  But I'm going
to tell you anyway.

	Andy Evans (Bristol, England and Revere owner) and I got to
trying to figure out what the Revere was from the N.American standpoint.
We finally figured out what it is.  After Andy sent me some faxes of Honda
brochures, it was decided that it's more or less the Honda NT650
Hawk GT.  But with a difference!!

	Appearance-wise, the Revere is a bit bulkier and has more pillion
for the passenger.  Colors are different but the plastic is about the same.
They both have the Pro-Arm, aluminum cradle frame, cast aluminum rims and
shorty pipe.  There are a number of technical differences in the Revere:

	- shaft-drive Pro-Arm (instead of the Hawk's chain Pro-Arm)
	- smaller 31.3 mm carbs (36.5mm on Hawk)
	- slightly longer wheelbase
	- 191 kg dry weight (178kg for the Hawk)
	- 583cc (Hawk is 647cc)
	- 19 litre gas tank (Hawk is only 12 litre/3.2 gal)

The rims appear to be identical so any rubber appropriate for the Hawk
should be fine for the Revere.

	Otherwise, the Revere is the Hawk.  Historically, the Hawk is
a distant relative of the Honda VT500 Ascot, at least motor-wise.
Like the Revere, the Ascot had shaft-drive but dual arms.  It is
known that in designing the Hawk, the motor went through various
displacement attempts *including 583cc* before they settled on 647cc.
So, you could say that the Revere is first cousin to the Ascot and
the Hawk is once more removed.

	I have the specs on the Revere for anyone who really wants them.
The fax'd images are pretty bad so don't bother asking.  Just take my
word for it.

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