HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rob@wzv.win.tue.nl (Rob J. Nauta)
Newsgroups: alt.security,comp.sys.novell,comp.security.misc
Subject: Re: Netware Security Inquiry
Date: 28 Sep 92 10:50:00 GMT
Followup-To: alt.security
Organization: Sex, UNIX & Rock 'n Roll

Why bother with netware security ?

The Dutch magazine 'computable' (a trade mag, not a real computer mag) of
sept. 26 1992 has an article 'NGN-member discovers serious bug in Novell's
Netware'. (NGN is the Dutch Novell User Group). Here's an excerpt:

During the Lanvision days that the NGN organized last week, a serious
bug in the network operating system Netware was discovered. It allows
any user to take over the authorization level of every other
Netware-user. The leak is supposed to be in every Netware release.
  NGN-president E. Fuld claims: During our traditional Nightware-party
during the night of the first Lanvision day a researcher at one
of the Dutch Universities demonstrated a program that uses the leak
in Netware. Fuld refused to say who wrote the program, to protect the
programmer and the university. He also refused to disclose the techical
background of the leak. It is supposedly a trick where a user sends
a command to teh fileserver and then pretends to be another logged-in
user. As soon as a connection to the server is made, he gets the
rights of the other user.
  If a programmer knows where to look, a program to exploit it is trivial,
says Fuld to motivate his refusal to disclose any information.
  The NGN has made a copy of the program and has given it to a sales
rep of Novell that flew it back to Novell's headquarters in Provo,Utah
immediately. According to Fuld, an emergency meeting was called, where
Drew Major, the developer of the Netware kernel was also present.
  B. Mellink of the NGN is currently developing a program that can
detect if any user is abusing the bug.
According to Fuld, all Netbios-based network operating systems have
the same bug. This includes Lanserver and Lan Manager, since none of
the operating systems uses encryption of network addresses.
This way any user can send packets with a phony originating address.
MicroSoft, the company that produces LanManager, refused comment.
  Though the program is not known to be in wrong hands, the NGN
advises not to store any important information on Novell-networks.
Network Administrators are also advised not to log in while other
users are logged in. Novell has taken over the warning.

One thing is curious, why would someone assume that discovering
a bug is a disgraceful affair, like a crime, that requires
anonimity of the person and his organization ?

Rob J. Nauta
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From: ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd)
Newsgroups: alt.security,comp.security.misc
Subject: Dataless system
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:34:21 GMT
Reply-To: ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd)
Followup-To: alt.security
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: ifbb657@donald.cc.utexas.edu


  I heard this mentioned a couple of times.  What is a dataless system?

It that similar to the state of my hard drive after being erased :-) ?

Is a dataless system encrypted?

adTHANKSvance,

-- 
******* ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas R. Floyd) ******
             (Insert standard disclaimer here)

   I would rather have a frontal lobotomy than Windows NT!
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From: lorenzo@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Eric J. Lorenzo)
Subject: King short stories
Followup-To: poster
Summary: Titles and other thoughts
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 00:12:57 GMT

This has been discussed many times already, so please mail me if you have any
info.  I am wondering about works by Stephen King that have not been put into
any of his short story collections; works that have appeared only in 
magazines.  I am assuming that they would be from his early career.

How could I go about tracking these down as I don't think they would have sunk
into oblivion with King's popularity.  I am pretty much a completist and would
like to get a copy or maybe some magazine titles I can go scavanging for them
at a few libraries.  Any help would be *deeply* appreciated.

I am reading the complete 'Stand' right now and am getting deeply into it.  I
haven't been able to put it down.  I read the first edition a long time ago, so
I don't remember the story too well.  Can anyone tell me what sections were 
cut in the first printing as opposed to thge complete story?

I also noticed when buying the 'Stand' that several of King's books are being
republished in hardcover.  I also saw a reprinting of 'The Shining' that was
the size of a hardcover, but in paperback.  It said it was a 'Collector's
Edition.'  Now I'm skeptical that anything claiming to be a collector's item
can be.  Does anyone know what is included in this book to be so 'special'?

Thanks for the time and thanks in advance
-Eric
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From: fernee@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Mark Fernee)
Subject: Cthuhlu ?
Organization: Physics Dept. The University of Queensland
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 05:39:51 GMT


I have read nearly every HPL story and I love them individually.
However reading an entire anthology is a bit of a strain, as the
plots are really quite similar and he uses reoccuring metaphors
which become quite tedious over the course of five or six stories.

Now w.r.to the Cthuhlu mythos. Why coin the term Cthuhlu. This 
represents, to my recollection, very little of the mythos. 
Cthuhlu was a creature from an elder race (a Great Old one I think),
however, the greatest danger, most often spoken of, was that from
hidden realms, locked away from our world. These realms contained
the Elder gods. Creatures so malevolent, that should they gain entry
to our world, they would destroy all life! Cthuhlu, on the other
hand was imprisoned under the sea in the city of Rhyllyeh (scuse the
spelling). It also managed to escape but was thwarted by a ship.

The great evil oft hinted at, was from the Elder god, Yog Sothoth.
Nearly unleashed upon this world in the tale of Charles Dexter
Ward. Truly this is the entity to be concerned about. HPL loved
to hint about terrors so great that they would be beyond the
control of humanity should they be released. Generally his
stories revolved around thwarting the attempts to summon such
horrors. It is these tantalising glimpses into such vast stygian
realms  that I find so appealing. A mystery revealed is no longer
a mystery, and so loses its appeal. Unfortunately this happens all
too often in modern writings.

Yog Sothoth for president. He'll consume all other evils.

Mark.
From: mdouglas@cad067.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Maria Douglas ~)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Cthuhlu ?
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:54:12 GMT
Organization: Intel Corp.


-- 
YES!!! Yoggy Rules!!!

Or Hastur the Unspeakable, King in Yellow...

Whoever it is that's floating through that rift in time I created last night...

Fellow screamer,

Maria
--
Maria E. Douglas	(408) 765-4728		    
Intel Corporation	mdouglas@cadev6.intel.com  

"Stop readin' me the Riot Act,
 While my brains are still intact."	S.R.

Standard disclaimer applies...
From: hummell+@pitt.edu (Andrew G Hummell)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Day of the Dead
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:16:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Oct05.180202.29992@mixcom.com> Ray.Chramega@mixcom.mixcom.com (Ray.Chramega) writes:
>
>  Day of the Dead was filmed at Sanibel Island and Fort Myers, Florida. Also
>  the Nike missle base outside Pittsburgh and a 125-acre limestone mine in
>  Wampum, Pennsylvania became Seminole Storage Facility.
>
>  The interesting part about the exterior shots of the storage facility is
>  that when you see the cast standing on the elevator above ground it's a
>  unworking reproduction built at Romero's summer home on Sanibel Island.
>  The actual working elevator is at the Nike missile base in Pennsylvania.
[.sig deleted]

Some of the outdoor filming was done at the Nike base because I saw trucks
carrying full sized palm trees and other tropical plants towards the base,
but I had no clue as to why.  The only place those trees could have been
going to was the missile base.

Andy


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From: holt_c@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Miskatonic, 4-0
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:07:27 GMT

College football scores from last weekend, Sept. 26

	Miskatonic University 17	LSU 14

	Academy of Applied              Cumberland
		Omniscience   248	University 0
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From: markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN)
Subject: Re: Halloween 6?
Organization: Universite de Moncton
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:40:02 GMT

In article <BvEpvw.n2p@acsu.buffalo.edu> v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (
This is F.U.N.) writes:

>Halloween 6 is supposed to be coming out this Halloween, along the 
>"Final" Friday the 13th film.

	I heard about F13 Part IX.  Supposed to be totally different and 
will take the story from Part VII.  So you have to forget that there's a 
part VIII out there.  I have a complete article on F13 IX here.


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From: intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Sheila Rani Gurtu)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Necronomicon
Date: 2 Oct 1992 05:42:46 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


> HPL was not part of any conspiracy. He, like many others who were
> privy to such knowledge, was sworn to silence. This explains his
> apparent denials concerning the existance of such that he wrote
> about. By selling his work as *fiction* he was able to disseminate
> portions of his secret archane knowledge.

And, conveniently, make a quick buck at the same time!  THAT'S IT!!!
H.P. Lovecraft was a SubGenius!!!

Another arcane truth brought to you by Isaac Truder and B.K. Pustu-Gel Shoes.
You're welcome.
From: sprooney@unix1.tcd.ie (Simon Rooney)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Cthuhlu ?
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:10:59 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin


>YES!!! Yoggy Rules!!!
Well, if you think about it he has for ages.

>Or Hastur the Unspeakable, King in Yellow...
Well... when's the funeral? I'm interested to see what exactly
happened when you said Hastu
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From: wwg2101@zeus.tamu.edu (GILPIN, W.W.)
Subject: Dr. Giggles
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:53:00 GMT

Anybody heard anything about this one? It looks kinda cheesy in the
commercials. I'm assuming it's a slasher with a sense of humor kinda like
Childs play or something.

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From: donnell@shamu.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Necronomicon
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:21:43 GMT

In article <Bv9vDz.4rH@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au> fernee@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Mark Fernee) writes:
>In article <1992Sep25.154939.9387@news2.cis.umn.edu>, donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>|> Going by the same line of logic, Sir, Aliens must be invading our planet,
>|> because, although no officially accepted evidence has come to light.
>|> Or, even closer, Elvis must still be alive, because people see him.
>|> 
>|> HPL invented the Necronomicon. The book has been listed for sale by
>|> antique booksellers several times. They all admitted they were kidding.
>|> I find it easier to believe that there was a data entry person with a sense
>|> of humor at UCLA, than there is a vast conspiracy to hide this "knowledge"
>|> from the common populace.
>|> HPL had his problems, but not once did he ever admit, in any of his writings,
>                                             ^^^^^^^^^^
>
>|> that such a book existed outside of his mind. Grimoires do exist, but not
>|> this one. HPL also complained repeatedly about the people who took him
>|> too seriously. And all his writings are available, including his diary.
>|> 
>|> Oh, but they, of course, have been altered by the "conspiracy" to hide the
>|> truth. 
>|> Still sounds like the typical UFO argument. "They are hiding the truth from
>|> us for their own gains". 
>|> 
>|> Any evidence that can be produced to prove you wrong, can of course be refuted
>|> in the same manner.
>|> 
>|> So my question to you is: Who is the "they" that are hiding this information?
>|> 
>|> 					--Judex--
>|> 
>
>You fool. Of course he wouldn't admit it. People who seriously practice 
>these forbidden rites, jealously guard these secrets.
>
>How can you say it doesn't exist, if you DON'T KNOW!
>
>It's always fun to listening to the sceptics saying "this can't be 
>happening" before dying.:)
>
>
>                            _____
>                             \   \
>                                  |
>Mark...........o_________________/

And it is always fun to corner somebody on this and listen to them squirm.
Why are these "rites" forbidden? By who? And In all his correspondance to
the other authors you admit are in on the conspiracy, they never mention
this. Oh, but you'll say they did, but we don't get to see that part.
Invent some more facts, I am quite amused.
Have you thought of joining a UFO church? I have addresses, and you seem 
to think along the same, nonlogical lines as they do. You'll do well with
them, you hold to your position despite a complete lack of any real 
evidence. But that is part of the conspiracy, right?

					--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: seaverw@columbia.dsu.edu (W. A. Seaver)
Subject: Re: Wanted:Complete list of Stephen King novels etc.
Organization: Dakota State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 03:37:51 GMT

In article <6912@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan) writes:
>Screenplays:"Cat's Eye", "Creepshow", "Silver Bullet" (and as usual there 
may>be others, but I am doing this with no list in front of me).

Hey, does anyone remember this one that just popped into my mind? Didn't SK 
write an episode of the revamped "Twilight Zone" back around '85 or so? I 
think it was called "Gramma," and involved a kid who had to stay home alone 
with his invalid grandmother, who he was convinced was a witch. Or, in the 
words of Brian Eno, "Perhaps my brains have turned to sand."

--Alan 
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: kmjoffe@acs.ucalgary.ca (Kenneth M. Joffe)
Subject: Re: Peter Straub
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 23:24:29 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Keywords: none

In article <1992Sep29.222557.23335@kpc.com> lewis@kpc.com (Bob Lewis) writes:
>I picked up a few Peter Straub books at a used book sale, Shadowland
>and Koko.  How come I never hear about this guy on this newsgroup ?
>
>Any opinions out there on these two books or any others he has written ?
>
>
>Bob
>

I'll second the question.  I picked up the exact same 2 books at
a used book store and am wondering about them.  I think I recall
the net saying that Ghost Story was quite good, but I didn't see
it there.  I am going to be starting Koko first since I just have
a feeling it is the better of the two.
 


Newsgroups: alt.horror,rec.arts.movies
From: caruso@socrates.umd.edu (John Caruso)
Subject: Re: The Reflecting Skin - A Vampire tale???
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 23:02:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.094209.11336@ifi.unizh.ch> hafner@ifi.unizh.ch (Michel Hafner) writes:
>Montague_Kevin@Tandem.com (Kevvy Kev) writes:
>
>>I recall earlier someone said this was Not a vampire tale.  But others seem
>>to be asserting that it does feature a female vampire.  So, to paraphrase:
>>Is she or isn't she?
>
>Dolphin Blue, the woman in question, is not a vampire. There are no vampires
>in this movie, at least no literal ones.

I'd say that's debatable--there are several (sets of) characters that we
don't get too much information on.  The boys in the car, the two women (?)
walking along the road.  You're right, though; vampires are not necessarily
literal vampires in this film.

Which, by the way, I found to be visually very impressive, and unique in
its mood, but painfully self-conscious and pretentious overall.  And that
kid just wasn't up to the requirements of the role...his gaping stare
began to wear quickly.  I taped it a few nights ago, Just In Case...but
today that tape has the latest episode of MST on it instead.  That's the
best summary of my opinion.  :-)

- John
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 2 Oct 1992 11:36:53 CDT
From: <U52025@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Cthuhlu Graphic book??????

On a PBS show I saw on T.V. in which they were in a sci-fi bookstore, I
saw a store owner holding a book which had a title " Cthuhlu Graphics ". I'm
not sure if that's the full name of the book, so I was wondering I anybody
heard anything similar to that title. If so what is the book about and if
possible where can I get it in the Chicago area?

, Thanks!
From: ugabarra@mcl.ucsb.edu (Il Viaggiatore)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Miskatonic sweats
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:24:33 GMT

In <1992Oct5.212431.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> mcmill01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:


>	I was just wondering, since everyone here and in folklore are all keyed
>up over ol' H.P. and the Necricomicon (however its spelled) does anyone know
>where a body could obtain a Miskatonic U. sweatshirt?  (preferably swim team
>athletic sweats)?  Before things get toasty let say that I do know that there
>is no real place called Miskatonic U.
>	Please just respond on the net because I cannot be the only one
>interested.
>	Thanks.
>Clarke

you can order most of the stuff through chaosium inc..  for a free catalog write
to:

		Chaosium Inc.
		Retail Department
		950-A 56th Street
		Oakland, CA  94608-3129

on my catalog they list some licensees that sell call of cthulhu stuff in 
other languages..  i am not sure if they sell apperal, or just game supplements,
but if you want these addresses email me..  if i get enough requests, i'll post
them..  by the way, this catalog may or may not include the clothing, but i do
know that chaosium sells it, you may have to specify that you are looking for
clothing in your request for their catalog..

cya l8r >8=;==;==---'

	Il Viaggiatore

"What you call hell, he calls home!"

	Viper

Beware For He Doth Live!!

	Mutilation

"What you call hell, he calls a children's story!!!"

	Cthulhu
From: bevan@cs.man.ac.uk (Stephen J Bevan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Robert McCammon
Date: 27 Sep 92 19:35:47 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester
In-reply-to: diane@mik.uky.edu's message of 27 Sep 92 18:07:05 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.180705.19719@ms.uky.edu> diane@mik.uky.edu (diane lynn benham) writes:
   In article <1992Sep25.194526.7586@grebyn.com> fi@grebyn.com (Fiona  
   Webster) writes:
   > My suggestion?  Read "Pin" in _Blue_World_, and then go out in search

   I read this whole collection but I don't remember this particular story.   

Wow, I find it hard believe anyone could read it and forget about it;
are you sure you read it?  Its been a while since I read it, but it
still sticks in my mind (sorry, couldn't that :-)

bevan
From: frantz@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Midnight Graffiti (was Re; King)
Date: 26 Sep 92 12:42:13 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <But4ty.Fz9@cs.dal.ca>, hardy@ug.cs.dal.ca (Simone J. Hardy) writes:
> I'd have to say my favorite novel of all time by King is The Stand. 
> Perhaps I'm looking too much into it, but it makes a blatent sociological,
> political, and moral statement about....well, society, human nature, and
> the "evil within" us all, I guess. If anyone here has read the edited, cut
> version, reading the uncut version is a MUST. It takes an incredible
> story, and makes it a classic.
> 
>  A quote from the book that I will never forget is in my "finger"...
> the one from Glen Batemen....
>  "Show me a man or a woman alone, and I'll show you a saint.
>   Give me two, and they'll fall in love.
>   Give me three, and they'll invent the charming thing we call 
>   'society.'
>   Give me four and they'll build a pyramid.
>   Give me five, and they'll make one an outcast. 
>   Give me six and they'll reinvent prejudice.
>   Give me seven, and in seven years they'll reinvent warfare.
>   Man may have been made in the image of God, but human society was
>   made in the image of his opposite number, and is always trying to
>   get back home."
> 
>  If I ever get my BA in English and am successful as a horror/gothic
> fiction writer, I hope that I can make statements about society even
> a fraction as well as King does.
> 
>  -Simone :)
Yeah, this *is* a moderately coll quote, and I'd agree with you that his 
most insightful stuff is in The Stand.  There's a lot to that book.  This 
is sort of on another train of thought, but I wanted to mention that I 
stumbled across a new (copyright 1992--don't know the month, sorry) horror 
anthology called "Midnight Graffiti" that includes a Stephen King short 
story I'd never read before entitled "The Rainy Season."  Now, just because 
I've never read it before, doesn't mean it hasn't already been published 
somewhere, but I was excited to find it here, anyway.  It's a simple story, 
but has a good deal of insight into small town mentality and the notion of 
"ritual".  It's also classic King because of the humor he uses.  liked it a 
lot.  I haven't made it through the entire anthology yet, but what I've 
read of it certainly makes it worth the $6 I paid.  It's got stuff by 
Harlan Ellison, David Schow, Dan Simmons and a luscious little piece by 
K.W. Jeter that's bound to give me dreams for awhile.  The anthology is 
edited by Jessica Horsting and James Van Hise.  Good collection if anyone's 
interested...

Andrea @ BVC

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