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From: pc@slipknot.eng.pyramid.com (pc)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: extra tix for Oakland
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:40:32 GMT
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Organization: Pyramid Technology
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In article <1g6lveINNart@gossip.pyramid.com> pc@slipknot.eng.pyramid.com (pc) writes:
>I have 2 extras for Oakland, Sunday 12/13 for sale.  Send
>me email or call the number below and leave me some voice mail
>of you want them.
>
>pc
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Sorry, the tickets are long gone.  Thanks to everyone who replied.

pc
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From: bs810@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (E. Nay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Just passin' time
Date: 15 Dec 1992 22:25:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bs810@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (E. Nay)
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In a previous article, haycock@marley.think.com (Anne Haycock) says:

[...] much deleted (Marty Robbins)
>music--Marty Robbins was pure "Western".  
>
>//anne//
>
>ps--in late response to someone's quote "I'm a little bit country, I'm a
>little bit rock-n-roll" attributed to Dolly Parton?--it is, <gasp>, part of
>the opener for the Donny & Marie Osmond Show sung by...D & M (who was
>which?  easy trivia)
>

ehhhhh, its been a long time, but would ya believe this is the first "concert"
I ever attended...(not counting July 4ths:) Donny & Marie and The Osmond Bros.
at the Crap Ctr.....if memory serves, the guy in the purple socks (Donny) was
"a *little* bit rock-n-roll".....hey, somebody had to answer it :)
-- 
It left a smoking crater of my mind I'd like to blown away
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From: EJELLIO@indsvax1.bitnet
Subject: New Cd-Boot review
Reply-To: EJELLIO@indsvax1.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:06:12 GMT


        Just got a new Dead CD-Boot, and surprise, It's not too bad at all!
The disc is called "orbiting Uvula" and contians most of the Dylan set
from the July 4th 1987 Foxoboro show. Missing is the "Slow Train and
"Joey" that appear on Dylan and the Dead.
        Unlike the resent glut of dead discs, the sound on this one is nearly
flawless. The sound is rich and deep. All insturments are visible and
nicely layered. The sound is truly on a par with the commercial release,
and in regards to the "live" feel, superior.
        The disc is put out by Turtle Records, who have resently put out
some fantastic shows. Unlike others Turtle seems to actualy care
about sound quality. This is a super clear board, and among their other
releases I've seen are even better sounding Metallica,GnR, and Rush.
        z
As with most Cd-Boots the price is way too steep. I rented the
copy i have <that's spelled "defered purchase">, not even vaguely
considering shelling out the $32.95 price tag. Another disadvantage is
the packaging. The disc is in a folded up paper case <why is this considered
an environmental advancement? People throw away the long box not the plastic
jewel case. These cardboard sleves get ragged easily.> The front panel
of the seleve is stolen form DC Comic Sandman trade paperback "The Doll
House" and gives artist Dave McKean no credit for his awsome painting.
The inner pictures show various pictures of Dylan and pictures of thee
Dead, though none of them have them all together.

Caveot Emptor, Kids.
Let It Bleed
Biff Elliott   Ejellio@indsvax1.indstate.edu
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From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Re: Oakland: MAKE ROOM, MAKE ROOM!
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 20:57:33 GMT


Personally, I find the size of the small popcorn reeeally annoying.
I spent an hour yesterday looking for a manager to complain about it
and ended up missing the whole second set. I just hate it when the
system's out to get me.

sarcastically,
Bill

PS It is crowded, true, but I find that if you just 
kind of go with the flow, stand anywhere, sit anywhere,
agree to move when the inhabitants come back, smile, and
get hundreds of stickers from Steve Jeck then things are
basically OK.
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From: petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jim Petersen)
Subject: Re: Prudence Jam
Followup-To: rec.music.gdead
Organization: Chicago IL
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 07:35:57 GMT

In article <11DEC199215082391@csa2.lbl.gov>, hudson@csa2.lbl.gov (ERIC
HUDSON) wrote:

> Strangely enough, the best DRUMS I ever heard was 12/30/89, also with
> Airto.  He made strange animal-laughing noises into some kind of sequencer.
> This was a hot show all-around.  Is 12/30 one of the "good days" from
> in Dead history?

First off, yes, 12/30 is one of the "good days", at least the last few
years. New Year's Eve itself has gotten a rather bad rep these same last
few years.

Second, that was NOT Airto on 12/30/89. It was Babatunde Olatunji, who
is another of the Planet Drum gang. Airto and Olatunji BOTH jammed with
Mickey and Bill last New Years Eve (most notably on a thundering Not
Fade Away to open the second set).

If I'm wrong on this someone set me straight, but I'm pretty sure that was
Olatunji in '89.

__________________________________________________________________________
Jim Petersen         petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu          jp@darkstar.com

                If mercy's in business I wish it for you-        
             More than just ashes when your dreams come true.
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From: "Toby Rockwell" <p00220@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: MSG '92
Organization: the oasis at the end of the road
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 12:05:42 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.3)

>DATE:   11 Dec 92 15:20:37 GMT
>FROM:   JAMES WELCH <jgw@acpub.duke.edu>
>
>JDAMBER1@ithica.bitnet writes:
>
>>                   Does anyone have MSG 9/13/92
>>and/or 9/18/92........I NEED these shows!!!!!!! Please if anyone can help
>
>Good luck :-)  The Dead specifically prohibited taping at these shows so I doubt it if you will be able to find tapes :-)
>
>Jim
>
>P.S.  But if anyone does have a copy of these shows I'll put my grovel in now :-)  :-)  :-)


Don't you really mean 9/13/91??  This Fall's shows were CANCELLED.
There was a taper section I thought at those shows, so I don't think 
they are hard to come by....at least I think I remember a taper section. 

Barb
  
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From: dwstein@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Donald Stein)
Subject: Re: Phil seals Vault
Keywords: Phil
Organization: US WEST Information Technologies
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:43:42 GMT

>  
> Yeah, ole Phil sure did a bang up job on Steal Your Face. <belch>  ;-) 
> Let's see you use impeccable taste and Steal Your Face in the same 
> sentence!  OK, I'll try:
> 
> "Phil showed impeccable taste by not making SYF a four album set"   :-)
>   

I'll give it another try. Phil showed his impeccable taste by saying " Steal
Your Face? Hah! Steal Your Money is more like it".  At least this is how I
remember the quote.

Don Stein
dwstein@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com
From: hampel@siemens.com. (Ken Hampel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: 12-12-92
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:35:02 GMT
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Inc., Princeton, NJ

In article <1655.1007.uupcb@idcbbs.uu.holonet.net> dario.wolfish@idcbbs.uu.holonet.net (Dario Wolfish) writes:
>
>Howdy folks. I just walked in the door from the 12-12 show. 1AM is a
>respectable time to get home from a dead show. The reason why so late is
>that there was an opening band. It was some band from Australia. I can't
>begin to describe them except that they were groovy.

I was scanning the radio stations in my car the other day when something
caught my ear. It was a guy with an Australian accent singing a Bob Dylan
song. It was Hatie Carrol -- but wait -- those weren't the lyrics to
Hatie Carrol. So I listened to the rest of the song and at the end, the
DJ announced who it was (can't remember now). Then the DJ said that he
will be opening for the Grateful Dead in Oakland.
So, I'm just wondering, did anyone hear this Hatie Carrol type song as
an opener? And, were there any other Dylan-like songs?

-Ken

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From: epenzer@csws3.ic.sunysb.edu ()
Subject: TAPE GROVEL ONE LAST TIME- OAKLAND 12/16,17
Originator: epenzer@csws3.ic.sunysb.edu
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:26:10 GMT

Hi All!

	Well, I'm off line 'till February 1st starting in about 10 minutes, 
so this better take!  I would like to trade for good sounding copies of the
last two Oakland shows, preferably, but not necessarily, from masters.  I 
have over 1100 Dead hours to trade (including many North-east masters) and
another 250 hours of Spin Doctors and Blues Traveler (mostly Master or 1st
Gen from DAT Soundboards and Audience tapes).

	As I've stated, I will be off-line for the next month, so I would
appreciate correspondence by regular mail (if any of you still believe 
believe in that sort of thing!).  If you send me a list/letter, I will send
you my tape list and we can work from there.  Yu won't be dissapointed.

	So, thanks to all who read this, and mostly, to all who respond.

	Peace and Happy Holidays,

	Eric Penzer
	504 Saddle Ridge Road
	Woodmere, NY 11598
From: pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Tickets for sale for 12/16 and 12/17
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:18:41 GMT
Reply-To: pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens)
Distribution: ba
Organization: m4


I have a pair (2) tickets available for Wed. and a pair (2) tickets
available for Thur.  Price is of course $26 per ticket.  The purchaser
will need to be able to come by Mountain View (Shoreline area) during
working hours to get them.  Email the address below.

+------------------------------------------------------------------------+

   Paul Stevens                        {apple|decwrl}!metaphor!pstevens
   Metaphor Computer Systems           pstevens@metaphor.com
   Mountain View, CA
From: wfolsom@BBN.COM (Wayne Folsom)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Please Help
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:13:21 GMT
Reply-To: wfolsom@BBN.COM (Wayne Folsom)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com


It seems I've been cut off from all rec.*.* news groups.  I haven't been able
to read this group for a few weeks now.  Could someone kindly tell me how to go
about receiving (dead-flames?) the digestified version.

Also if a kind soul out there would send along the setlists and reviews from
the December shows I would be most grateful.

Oh and one more thing could the "confirmed and rumored tour dates" guy please
send along a copy.

Thanks for all your help!

Wayne
wfolsom@bbn.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Victor A D'Amato <DAMATO@unc.oit.unc.edu>
Subject: UNC?
Reply-To: DAMATO@unc.oit.unc.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:28:41 GMT

Wow!  Lots of talk about pros/cons/doubts/etc... of the Dead
playing UNC.  Howabout if we just wait and see instead?
Spring tour should be announced early January.
Vic
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 13:15:52 EST
From: <ADB103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re:music vs lyrics

My feeling would be similar to yours-I think it is a matter of delivery.  As
long as the band can put a feeling of "intent" on the mistake/alteration it
will seem seemless.  I think when Jerry does some of his slow,"delivery
dependent" songs like Row Jimmy(Its been years since Ive heard a lyrically
perfect version!!) --a flubbed lyric can take all the air out of any
intensity that may have been established during the song. On a rocker,flubbed l
yrics dont seem to matter as much -The type of mistakes you decribed are my fav
orites--The ones that make you wonder if they are mistakes. The funny part is,
I was at that Buffalo show,taped it,listened to it a million or so times-but ne
ver noticed the omitted verse!!Thanks for pointing that out.
From: cdpst@cislabs.pitt.edu (Christophe D Piccolo)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Bobby to the rescue..(Was Re: Bobby shattering rapture.
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:29:55 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Dec16.210144.4636@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> GLADSTONE@csmcmvax.bitnet writes:
>
>        Just another picky fucking deadhead  ( PFD ) here, but I can't
>count the number of times the band has placed me on cloud nine, particularly
>in the second set, only to have the mood totally screwed up by the
>Bobster  ( as in Lobster ) start up 'round n round' or some cowboy
>tune. 


Another PFD here, but i know there are times when I'm really
groovin to a show, and jerry just brings me right down like 
50grams of Thorazine by tossing in a Ramble on Rose, or
Standing on the Moon, or Peter, etc...

(I'd mentione stella, but then i pretty much would seal
 my fate at being extelecommunicated for blasphemy)

I used to wonder about jerry's ability to still rock outlike
the old days, till I heard a few recent Deals, i know
the big guy got it in him, just wish he'd realize that
near the end of the second set is a perfect place for something
other than a slow pensive(tho oftend beautiful) garcia/hunter gem..
This happens a bit in the first set too..

>Oh well, a 'bad' dead show is better than a good anythingelse.
>Grumble, mumble...  **** Bitching mode off ****
>Joe Lone Wolf Gladstone>  <GLADSTONE@CSMCMVAX.BITNET>
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From: "Barbara Rockwell" <p00220@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: hearing loss 
Organization: the oasis at the end of the road
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 12:35:32 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.3)

>Bob drank Scotch.  Bob was also nearly deaf.  When he went to settle his
>check, my friend told him that the drinks were on him.  Bob didn't hear 
>and he said it again louder.  He still didn't hear.  The third time, he
>spoke Really loud (just about yelling) and Bob heard him.

This is really a sad story.  My hope is that Bob did not want to be 
bought a drink and this was his way of saying it.  After all, he did 
hear the bartender offer to change the music.  

>I always try and take earplugs to any concert I go to, just in case I 
>end up sitting in front of a stack or anywhere it is really loud.

In all the years of concert going, I have never used earplugs, but am 
considering it.  The worst concerts (or best, if loudness counts) are 
Jorma's shows.  I shudder to remember 18 years ago when I brought my 4 
week old son to an outdoor Tuna show and positioned myself in front of
the stacks for better visibility.  The loudness of the show closed the 
Lenox music barn to rock and roll for many years (possibly still to this day).
When Toby and I auditioned stereo equipment this last purchase, we used 
one of the library's test CD's.  On it are a wide variety of sounds, at 
different frequencies.  (I recommend them highly).  We learned that 
while I could hear 18K in both ears, Toby could only hear 16K in one 
ear.  Our son (yes the same one who had his ears blasted at 4 weeks) 
could hear 20K, and it was perfectly audible to him.  He was truly 
mystified to know we could not.  Not that 20K is something you would 
hear often, but it is a measure.  Toby's ears RING for days after every 
show, mine never do, except when I heard Jorma again last fall.  Then 
they rang for a day+.  And we both rang for 2 days after ZERO.

Does anyone know about the quality of the earplugs that Terrapin 
includes the flyer on in their packages?  I'm considering buying them 
for Toby in honor of the upcoming Spring tour.  

>I won't
>bother relating the story of my friend John, whose ear bled after a Joe
>Satriani concert.  I guess the balcony concentrated the sound...

That's interesting--does the balcony concentrate sound????   We have not 
suffered the intensity of hearing loss that many have....bleeding ears...scary.


Barb


>---
>bkelley@pms001.pms.ford.com
>

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From: Michael Brantley <T400093@univscvm.csd.scarolina.edu>
Subject: Roll away the dew
Reply-To: T400093@univscvm.csd.scarolina.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:45:32 GMT

Greetings,
          I remember reading a newspaper article a couple of years ago about
Hunter when he published the book of lyrics. The article was describing the
diversity of Hunter's lyrics. The journalist mentioned that it's possible to
find religious references in Hunter's work such as "Roll away the dew", which
is a reference to the resurrection of Christ. I don't know where the passage is
in the Bible, but I remember reading this in that article.


                                                Virtually,

                                                   MB
From: gregoire@looselucy.Eng.Sun.COM (Gregory Pearson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Garcia Art Reception in Berkeley
Date: 11 Dec 1992 18:27:17 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: gregoire@looselucy.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: looselucy

>You SURE that's no relation to Bob? His sister, Wendy, is an art  
>dealer....

Yes, Roberta Weir, is no relation of Bob's.  And although she's a friend
of Garcia's via Jon McIntire, the Dead's ex-manager, she's not even a
deadhead.  But she's an artist & a patron of the arts.  We were at the
opening last night but just missed Garcia who left @ 6:30.  There's a lot
of new art on the walls, the most other-worldly being large Cibachrome
hyper-color renditions of computer generated art that Garcia has been doing.
The colors & detail on the new stuff is incredible (like the cover work for Infrared
Roses).  And the show is well worth attending.  
Prices are steep for the originals, but looking is free.  And a goodly
number of originals are also available as signed, numbered lithos in the 200 - 350
dollar range.
From: haycock@marley.think.com (Anne Haycock)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Sound at MeNichols Shows in Denver Dec2-3
Date: 11 Dec 92 13:07:22
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
	<1992Dec10.194902.11345@ncar.ucar.edu>
	<kolar.724087390@spot.Colorado.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: marley.think.com
In-reply-to: kolar@spot.Colorado.EDU's message of Fri, 11 Dec 1992 15:23:10 GMT

In article <kolar.724087390@spot.Colorado.EDU> kolar@spot.Colorado.EDU (Jennifer Lynn Kolar) writes:

   Bitch, Bitch, Bitch.... I wish people would stop bitching about the sound and
   the quality. Facts are that *everywhere* I was during the shows.. from front
   row, to the nosebleed-zone, hallways, and backstage, the sound was just fine.
   Then again, I was not cooked out of my mind on acid, alcohol, grass, or any
   of the other substances that seem to be overly-consumed at shows. In my own
   opinion, the sound was not as good as it was at the 90 Denver shows, but hey
   with some new equipment, a long break, everyone is a bit rusty. As for the 
   consumeristic attitude, if you feel ripped off, then dont buy tickets anymore.
   More tickets then fro all those outside that FROZE wishing they could hear that
   shitty sound that everyone is bitching about. So next time you think a show
   is poor, shitty, etc, think of all those who could not get inside, it may have
   been their miricle show.

Bitch?  What bitch?  My opinion, Corinne's opinion, your opinion...where'd
the bitching come in?  Sound was not just fine for me where I was sitting
and, as you so descriptively put it, "I was not cooked out of my mind..."
either.  My ears hear pretty good too; the sound wasn't there where I was
sitting compared to other shows and other decibel levels.  

Spread a little holiday cheer...

//anne//
From: kmalmber@ub.d.umn.edu (kenneth malmberg)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Nobody's Fault
Date: 12 Dec 1992 10:08:52 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu

The Dead played an short one at the Boston Garden 9-22-91.

S+D
Aiko
LL Rain
He's Gone
Nobody's Fault
Smokestack...
From: djw@hodgkin.mc.duke.edu (David Wendt)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: info on New Grass Revival
Date: 16 Dec 92 12:06:16 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Dec15.203420.18686@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> lencell@unmc.edu writes:
>Sorry for the non-"DEAD" related post, but I thought someone out there might
>be able to help me find some music from the New Grass Revival.  I heard them

	New Grass was a band which helped to push the limits of traditonal
blugrass music.  Its members included Bela Fleck and Sam Bush.   Most of their
CD's are a bit difficult to find right now. Elderly Insturments in Lansing 
Michigan has (in addition to their wide selection of insturments, a 
catalogue of folk and bluegrass recordings.  Most of the New Grass
Recordings are listed in that catalogue. Sorry I don't have the address
handy, but Lansing Info should be able to help, I believe the area code is 517.

						David
..
.
From: lb04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Laura Bassi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: eMpTyV sighting addendum
Date: 19 Dec 92 18:40:02 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

hey now folks

Just remembered (hmmm...) :)
Jerry also talked about the NYE shows (or lack thereof) on MTV news.
Said that "they did it for Bill"...that usually he'd start bugging them in
April and by NYE he'd have them convinced...
kinda sad :(

pppps!
laura
From: elc@cellar.org (philzone)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Presonnal To Dave Ballard
Date: 11 Dec 92 12:08:20 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

Hey Dave!
 
I seny e-mail about the 10/27 tree and it bounced. Contact me about the tree
and we'll get it rolling!!!!

                                                           Peace,
                                                            Eric

------
elc@cellar.org (philzone)
The Cellar BBS - (215) 539-3043
From: pkemp@byron.u.washington.edu (Paul Kemp)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Question about song histories.
Date: 14 Dec 92 06:04:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec14.060425.13664
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


Hey, I've been out of the scene for awhile...I've recently got ahold of some
90's Dead.  Could someone fill me in on _When I Paint my Masterpiece_ and 
_Standing on the Moon_.  Where did they come from?  Who wrote them?  How long
have the boys been playing these tunes?  Anything else?
Thanks for the input.
pk
PKEMP@U.WASHINGTON.EDU
From: kimmerly@genome.lbl.gov (Bill Kimmerly)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: trade Thurs. for Wed.
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:45:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Dec11.184505.7827
Reply-To: kimmerly@genome.lbl.gov
Organization: The Internet


I have a pair of tickets for Thursday 17 Dec. that I would like
to trade for a pair of tickets for Wednesday 16 Dec.  Reply by email
or leave a msg at (415) 292-7968 (H) or (510) 486-7330.

Thanks

Bill Kimmerly
kimmerly@genome.lbl.gov
ipanema@itsa.ucsf.edu

Q:	Was it for this my life I sought?
A:	Maybe so, and maybe not.
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