Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:37:20 CST
From: <U19807@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: GUNDAM: CHAR'S COUNTERATTACK: So, what's the big deal?
 <93020.174001U19807@uicvm.uic.edu> <2256@blue.cis.pitt.edu>

In article <2256@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp) says:
>
>In article <93020.174001U19807@uicvm.uic.edu> U19807@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
>>In article <2146@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp)
>says:
>>>        Anything with enough energy could stop it.
>
>>Uh,SW,you should learn that generalizing like this can only get you into
>>trouble...the explosion caused by a detonation of twenty thousand tons of TNT
>>is "energy",and it wouldn't _stop_ The Big Rock From Hell,just turn it into
>>several Little Rocks From Hell which are still in the pull of the earth's
>>gravity. You did say _any_ energy,remember.
>
>        I said, anything with ENOUGH energy. I don't think 20KT could even
>break that thing up. 20,000 MEGATONS might. 200,000 MT might blow it into
>vapor... perhaps not stopping it in the vector sense but stopping it from
>the practical point of view. Increase power as needed to produce desired
>result.

Whatever. Methinks that the entire physics/gravity question is getting just
a wee bit ridiculous,especially as we don't have any way of directly proving
just _what_ would obtain the "desired result" (which is getting pretty nebulous
as well,as neither you or I really mentioned exactly what constitutes
"stopping" the BRFH,at least in terms of a shared definition) except in our
own (increasingly frazzled) minds.

>>same-even if you suspend disbelief in order to believe in psionics,I have my
>>doubts that two Levitating Meditators (tm), much less two _thousand_,could've
>>stopped an asteroid that size by screwing with the laws of gravity in such a
>>spectacular fashion.
>
>        Huh? Who said anyone was messing with the laws of gravity? Just an
>overall vector TK. They either diverted it or blew it into such small pieces
>that it no longer mattered.

UH uh. If it was diverted,how was it that it seemed to've been in orbit? If
they blew it to pieces,why is it still visible at the end of the movie?

>>>        And stopping that asteroid is just as hard, or harder, than
>diverting
>>>it. It's a matter of vector forces. Moreover, if it was just STOPPED, it
>>>would start falling in again as soon as the force was taken off it. Gravity
>>>is a constant.
>>
>>...which means that they set up a permanent counter-gravitational field to
>>keep it in a static position above the earth. Yeesh,this entire topic becomes
>>more absurd by the minute!
>
>        Uh, no. Why? Just make it go away with a push -- a very LARGE push --
>or nuke it into vapor. Why are you assuming these ridiculous requirements?

Ridiculous,shmidiculous! The BRFH is still (as said before) visible from the
earth at the end of the movie,and it seems to be....

>Or put it into ORBIT, even --

....in orbit.

> It's simple Newtonian mechanics here.

Uh huh. And HOKUTO NO KEN is a series in which human anatomy and the effects
of martial arts on it is 100% accurate,correct?  >:)

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