From: schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk
Subject: Re: Teen Agent, Can you Hear Me? Teen Agent, Can You See Me? (was: Clay Shaw is Clay Bertrand, Oswald *was* a Teen Agent
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:22:50 GMT
Reply-To: Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

jxxl@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke) writes:

>Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca writes:

>> >Oswald was only 20 when he went to the USSR, supposedly as a "CIA
>> >operative." That means that his alleged training must have taken
>> >place while he was literally a teenager.
>> 

>> They sent hundreds of thousands of teenagers to Vietnam.

>The term used to be "cannon fodder."

>> There is evidence that the Office of Naval Intelligence had a program 
>> designed to infiltrate the USSR by having young military personnel act
>> disaffected and defect. The program may have infiltrated as many as 40
>> military personnel , some for only a few weeks , into the USSR.

>What is the proof that Oswald was involved in such a program?

The proof is circumstantial.

It involves the timing of Oswalds defection, which coincided with the
peak year for defections.

It involves the 'explanation' for Oswalds case of VD while in the
Marines. He caught it while 'in the line of duty'. How many Marines
catch VD while in the line of duty.

It involves one of the phone calls Oswald made in custody, which was
to a place very near the ONI headquarters for such a program.

It also involves his attempted contact with one of the other
'defectors' while in the USSR.

His knowledge of Russian was that of a native speaker.

Plus Oswalds Tax forms being classified [Ruby's were released years ago]
raises suspicions about who his paymaster was.

I am guessing that your address of ...navy.mil means you are in the
Navy? Maybe you could ask around? :) I'm sure the ONI publishes the
details of all it's secret programs, especially ones where it's
members may have killed JFK.

>> Between 1945 and 1959, only 2 US military personnel defected to the USSR.
>> In the 18 months leading up to 1960, 11 men with military backgrounds
>> or backgrounds with access to sensitive data defected.

>Oswald's involvement with the Fair Play for Cuba Committee is an interesting
>indicator of his motivations. He attempted to become involved with FPCC
>through its New York leadership. They did not trust his intentions and did
>not encourage him. 

Maybe they had poor reason to distrust him, such as him being an ONI
plant?

>However, he pretended to be running his own branch of
>the FPCC in New Orleans, anyway, claiming greater membership than he alone.
>Oswald was the ultimate poseur. He defected to become an important person
>somewhere else. It didn't work. He repeatedly contacted the Soviet embassies
>in the U.S. and Mexico as if they could give a shit. They didn't. Ultimately,
>Oswald shoots Kennedy in what, I believe, was a desperate gesture to be
>taken seriously by the Soviets. Oswald was a guy who could not accept that he
>was a nobody.

The evidence for Oswalds  involvment with the intelligence community is
admittedly circumstantial.

The evidence for that his killing JFK is just as circumstantial.
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