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From: dcb@kopachuk.uucp (David Breneman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
Subject: Re: Question about cases
Date: 22 Nov 92 23:17:45 GMT
Organization: Tacoma Screw Products, Inc.

In article <1992Nov20.172056.15289@rtsg.mot.com> gulik@rtsg.mot.com (Gregory Gulik) writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.210937.27110@u.washington.edu> carlb@hardy.u.washington.edu (Carl Boernecke) writes:
>>Looking at my _Computer Maintenance Reference Manual_, the only
>>differences it lists between the Version 2 systems is the pro-
>>cessor.  So, I was wondering, if I ordered a case from anywhere
>>would I be able to put the guts from my 310 into the 400 case?
>>I am looking mainly to gain the additional hard drive inside the
>>case and al the extra slots.  The spot for the tape drive is
>>nice too.
>
>Yes, you can do that.
>The 310 and 400 motherboards are exactly the same.
>

They aren't *exactly* the same, are they Greg?  The EPROMs have got
to be different.  That's why a 300 with an AM2 motherboard still
won't run "WE32100 required" programs - it "thinks" it's not a 310.
I bet you're going to need the 4th EPROM from a 400 to get this thing
working (and recognize those additional slots) - #4's the one which
tells the machine what it is.  The EPROM must have the number 4 printed
on it, or your system won't "know" its supposed to be a 3B2-400. (#3
means its a 300, #5 means its a 310).  The other three EPROMS should
work as long as they're lower aphabetically than your "new" fourth
EPROM.

>>BTW, anyone know how much an AT&T 3B2/1000 costs?
>
>A lot.
>
>> Can I pick it up for under $1000?
>
>Nope!

Sigh - I remember paying $2500 for a 300!  (When AT&T was still
selling the 310 for $15,000)

>> Didn`t think so.  Heck, what kind of MIPS do the 1000`s do?
>
>Probably around 5-7 MIPS for each processor, depending on model.
>Anyone have some real numbers that I can add to the FAQ?
>

According to the literature (AT&T PM-3727) "AT&T 3B2/1000 Computer":

Model:		Clock:		Standard MIPS:		3 MPE MIPS:

3B2-1000/60	22 MHz		5			 9
3B2-1000/70	22 MHz		5			 9
3B2-1000/80	24 MHz		9			16


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From: ami@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ami Motro)
Subject: gnu-chess on 3b2/310
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 03:49:20 GMT


Did anybody port gnu-chess (or any other chess program) to a 3b2/310?

I'd like to have a chess program, but at this time I am not too enthusiastic
about a complicated port job.  Gnu-chess did not compile instantly,
so I gave it up.

Thanks in advance!

Ami Motro
From: dcb@kopachuk.uucp (David Breneman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
Subject: Re: Longest possible 3B2 serial runs?
Date: 22 Nov 92 17:19:59 GMT
Organization: Tacoma Screw Products, Inc.

In article <1992Nov19.025755.5214@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> jeffrey@sci.sci.ccny.cuny.edu (Jeffrey L Bromberger) writes:
>I'm interested in figuring out how long a run I can make from my 3B2.
>Hopefully, I can pull about 75 feet of cable from a terminal to the
>main machine - can the 3B2 drive a line this long?  Our old VAX 780
>handles lines over 13 stories long :-)

We ran two 4410 terminals at 9600 baud in our Packaging Warehouse which
was a block away from and a floor below the 3B2.  After 3 years on the
3B and two more on our Pyramid they show no sign of lost or garbled
data.  The building is a block long, and these terminals are as far
from the computer as they can get and not be outside!  For long runs
we use 50-pair phone-type cables with "harmonica" adapters on each end
to convert them back to 4-pair modular.

>BTW: does anyone out there have a source for CHEAP RJ-45 cables
>that'll work on a 3B2?  I don't have access to the crimp connector, so
>making my own is effectively out of the question.  How about those
>terminal adapters?  I foud the "make 'em yourself" variety for about
>$5 each.  Anybody know of a more reasonable price?  Of course, buying
>from AT&T is probably insane.

$5 sounds reasonable.  AT&T wants ~$45 for the pre-wired Terminal/Printer
and ACU Modem adapters.  But if I understand what you're talking about,
you still need the crimped cable to run between the adapters.  I must
be missing something.  Anyway, try to get a crimper.  They're great.
We use regular flat 4-pair cable that costs about 7 cents a foot.  You
can make cables up any length - its the model ov convenience.  Got a
rolled-over cable and need a straight-through?  Cut off one end and
crimp on another!  BTW, I don't have any stock in cable-crimper companies.
:-)


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From: th@hawkmoon.mn.org (Tim Heimerl)
Subject: Virtual terminals in sysV rel 3.2?
Summary: help finding virtual terminals
Keywords: virtual
Organization: Demi-Public System (One of the Eternal Champions); Eagan, MN, 55123-2507, USA
Distribution: comp
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 20:44:39 GMT

I have Att unix sysV rel 3.2 and I am wondering if there is virtual
terminal support and how to get it to work if it does.  I would also like to 
get the source code for elm and nn so I can put it onto my system.  If anyone
would have an xwin package also for this release It would be appreciated.


Thanks in advance for all your help.
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From: memanuel@cbnews.cb.att.com (mark.emanuele)
Subject: Re: 3B2/400 and dos floppies
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:40:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.145941.7644@cbfsb.cb.att.com> ncherry@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (neil j.cherry) writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.112413.11987@cbnews.cb.att.com> adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov15.155941.5557@oaknet.chi.il.us> jason@oaknet.chi.il.us (Jason Vanick) writes:
>>"Does anybody know of a program that would allow me to read
>>"360k dos floppy disks on a 3B2/400? Any help would be greatly
>>"appreciated.
>>
>>MTOOLS.
>>
>But can it read 40 track diskettes. (I was unable to read them or write to them
>for that matter.)
>
>NJC
>




Congruent Technonogies had a product a while ago that did just what you want, neil.



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From: carlb@hardy.u.washington.edu (Carl Boernecke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
Subject: Re: 3B2 Maintenance Reference Manual Updates?
Keywords: I found one!
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:05:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov18.210519.26723
Organization: University of Washington

morgan@ms.uky.edu (Wes Morgan) writes:
>3B2 Maintenance Reference Manual
>305-395, Issue 2, 1987

Looking at the _AT&T 3B2 Computer Maintenance Refernce Manual_
next to me, it would apear to be the latest update -- it`s
Issue 3, Copyright 1989.  Unless updates or Issue 4 came out
witin the last year, this should be the most recent.

-- Carl Boernecke (carlb@u.washington.edu)
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From: night@acm.rpi.edu (Trip Martin)
Subject: Upgrading to MIPS processor?
Reply-To: night@acm.rpi.edu
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:02:52 GMT

I understand that newer 3b2s use the MIPS processor.  Is it possible
to upgrade an older 3b2 to use the MIPS processor?  The machines 
involved are 3b2/310s and 3b2/400s.

Also, how much faster are the MIPS-based 3b2s?
-- 
Trip Martin
night@acm.rpi.edu
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night@acm.rpi.edu
From: adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
Subject: Re: 3B2/400 and dos floppies
Date: 17 Nov 92 11:24:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnews.1992Nov17.112413.11987
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Nov15.155941.5557@oaknet.chi.il.us> jason@oaknet.chi.il.us (Jason Vanick) writes:
"Does anybody know of a program that would allow me to read
"360k dos floppy disks on a 3B2/400? Any help would be greatly
"appreciated.

MTOOLS.

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From: carlb@hardy.u.washington.edu (Carl Boernecke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
Subject: Re: Upgrading to MIPS processor?
Date: 23 Nov 92 08:56:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov23.085650.11317
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Washington

hak@alf.cooper.edu (Jeff Hakner) writes:
>Now, I'll make my standard pitch to NCR:  USL has a working
>System V, Release 4.1 for the WE32x00-based 3B2 computers, both
>V2 and V3 systems.  I know, because I'm running it.  However,
>it is only available (at a reasonable price) to universities like
>us.  It would be up to NCR to package it and distribute it as
>a binary product.  How about it?  Let's conduct a little straw
>poll:  How many 3B2 users out there would be willing to upgrade
>to SVR4, and how much would you be willing to pay?

Oh, me!  I wanna get it for Christmas!  Although the release 3.2
software that I`m running now isn`t bad, I want all of the upgrades
that Release 4 has to offer.  After all, think how much easier it
would be to run BSD stuff...  Wouldn`t that be nice.  As for price,
I have no idea what 3B2 software goes for, so I haven`t a clue.

-- Carl Boernecke (carlb@u.washingon.edu)
From: friedl@mtndew.Tustin.CA.US (Stephen Friedl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
Subject: Re: Longest possible 3B2 serial runs?
Date: 21 Nov 92 21:53:12 GMT
Organization: Steve's Personal machine / Tustin, CA

Jeffrey L Bromberger writes:
> >I'm interested in figuring out how long a run I can make from my 3B2.

oxenreid@chaos.cs.umn.edu writes:
> The length depends on the baud rate.

Actually, lately they have changed the spec from feet to capacitance,
which is a much more accurate representation of the true limitation.
Get low-cap cable and you can drive long distances.

     Stephen

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From: dwj@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Daniel W. James)
Subject: Re: Question
Reply-To: ccpoabt!dan@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US
Organization: CCPOA Benefit Trust Fund
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 02:38:07 GMT

adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay) writes:

:)carlb@hardy.u.washington.edu (Carl Boernecke) writes:
:)"While reading through _The Whole Internet User`s Guide & Catalog_
:)"by Ed Krol, it mentions a "u3b" newsgroup with "Discussions related
:)"to the AT&T 3B computer series." (page 131)  Does anyone know any
:)"sites that carry this?

:)*we* carry it... ;^>

Does this mean that it's distribution is limited to AT&T sites.  Not fair!
This heirarchy is in the active list at this site, but I've yet to see any
traffic flow.

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From: ebd@fang.att.com (Elliot B Dierksen)
Subject: Re: 3b2 E-ports top speeds?
Organization: AT&T Tax Systems Development, Maitland FL
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:17:25 GMT

In article <By1JJ7.1Hp@darkside.osrhe.uoknor.edu> wee@darkside.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Operator) writes:
>Could someone out there give me the limits on the E-ports card?
>
>So far, from my own experiments, it seems only one
>port can go up to 38400/19200 with hardware flow control, while
>the rest of the ports have to be XON/XOFF.  But I can use
>hardware flow control on numerous ports if no port is set 
>above 9600.

I have 2 EPORTS cards in my 600. 1 has a WorldBlazer @ 38.4K, and the other
has another WB @ 38.4 and a TrailBlazer+ @ 19.2K. Other than having to use
brute force to keep HFC set, no problems... (Knocking furiously on wood grain
desk). BTW, my solution to the HFC dilema is in the 3B2 FAQ.

EBD
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                   is that a Sears  poncho?  Hmmm... no foolin'..." -- F. Zappa

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
From: gulik@rtsg.mot.com (Gregory Gulik)
Subject: Re: Request: where to find lpr/lpd sources
Organization: Motorola, Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:51:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.164635.12877@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> jeffrey@sci.ccny.cuny.edu (Jeffrey L Bromberger) writes:
>I know that this has been ported already to the 3B2 line of computers.
>I am looking for the lpr client (and the daemon if possible) that will
>allow me to send stuff to a remote printer on another host.  I think
>it was archived somewhere in Cincinatti, but I can't remember the
>machine name.  Please email me if you know where I can find this.


Excerpt from Subject 8 in the FAQ:

From: Steven M. Kilby <kilby@ucqais.cba.uc.edu>

    Starting October 1 ucqais.cba.uc.edu will offer an anonymous login service
specifically for 3B2 users.  The anonymous login will contain software
packages that have been ported to the 3B2, such as gcc, iscreen, lpr, X11,
and many more!  Most of the offerings will be binary, although I will include
as many sources as I can.  If there are any packages you would like to see
available there, let me know!


This site has the lpr/lpd set, which I have running on Gagme.
The 3B2 is the print server for my network and it all works
just fine.

-greg

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From: gulik@rtsg.mot.com (Gregory Gulik)
Subject: Re: Is there a list of 3b2 ftp sites?
Organization: Motorola, Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:45:56 GMT

In article <2832.2b03cb25@vger.nsu.edu> a_sudan@vger.nsu.edu writes:
>Greetings,
>
>I have a question, is there a list of ftp sites
>which allow anonymous ftp login with the 3b2 / 600?
>  I have ftp'd to the sites in the FAQ and would like
>a more complete list.   Any help would be appreciated.

I don't know of any besides the one in the FAQ.

If there are others, please post, or CC me so I can
add them to the FAQ.

-greg

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gulik@rtsg.mot.com  (Gregory Gulik)  [NeXT]
From: friedl@mtndew.Tustin.CA.US (Stephen Friedl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
Subject: Re: Upgrading to MIPS processor?
Date: 18 Nov 92 07:43:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Steve's Personal machine / Tustin, CA

In article <gnw1q+p@rpi.edu>, night@acm.rpi.edu (Trip Martin) writes:
> I understand that newer 3b2s use the MIPS processor.  Is it possible
> to upgrade an older 3b2 to use the MIPS processor?  The machines 
> involved are 3b2/310s and 3b2/400s.

This is a really great deal from AT&T: look at these features
you get in addition to a very fast CPU:

	* much lighter wallet
	* opportunity to purchase new versions of every last
	  piece of software on the machine
	* loads o' support from major software vendors
	* confidence in a product line that's going to be
	  around and fully supported for years

Seriously folks, is anybody actually buying this MIPS upgrade?
With their own money?  Really?

     Stephen

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From: greg@serveme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik)
Subject: Re: 3B2/400 and dos floppies
Organization: Gagme Public Access Unix, Chicago, Illinois
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:26:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.185919.18650@gagme.chi.il.us> jrd@gagme.chi.il.us (John R. Dennison) writes:
>
>	"mtools" would prolly help.  Available at an archive site near you.
>
>	(I am pretty sure I have seen mtools running on 3B machines in
>	the last couple years - altho I could be wrong.)

I tried using mtools on my 3B2/400, and all it was able to do
was do a DIR.  None of the other commands worked.  They all
returned with I/O errors.

If someone managed to get it to work on a 3B2, I'd be VERY
interested.

-greg

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
From: hak@alf.cooper.edu (Jeff Hakner)
Subject: Re: Upgrading to MIPS processor?
Organization: The Cooper Union ( NY, NY )
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:11:16 GMT

in article <717@mtndew.Tustin.CA.US>, friedl@mtndew.Tustin.CA.US (Stephen Friedl) says:
> 
> In article <gnw1q+p@rpi.edu>, night@acm.rpi.edu (Trip Martin) writes:
>> I understand that newer 3b2s use the MIPS processor.  Is it possible
>> to upgrade an older 3b2 to use the MIPS processor?  The machines 
>> involved are 3b2/310s and 3b2/400s.
> 
> This is a really great deal from AT&T: look at these features
> you get in addition to a very fast CPU:
> 
> 	* much lighter wallet
> 	* opportunity to purchase new versions of every last
> 	  piece of software on the machine
> 	* loads o' support from major software vendors
> 	* confidence in a product line that's going to be
> 	  around and fully supported for years
> 
> Seriously folks, is anybody actually buying this MIPS upgrade?
> With their own money?  Really?
> 
>      Stephen

:-) :-) :-)  Stephen- that's the most humorous and realistic
commentary on the RISC upgrade I've yet heard!  A fellow I
met from Bell Labs said "it's a great upgrade-it turns your
CPU bound machine into an I/O bound machine".

We run a 3B2 shop around here, and I think converting would be
silly.  First of all, all my binaries break.  Unlike DEC
and Alpha, I don't think a binary translator is provided.  Then,
look at the CPU you get--an R3000!  Not even an R4000!  So, I
get to spend $$$$$ to upgrade my machine to a new level of obsolescence.

Now, I'll make my standard pitch to NCR:  USL has a working
System V, Release 4.1 for the WE32x00-based 3B2 computers, both
V2 and V3 systems.  I know, because I'm running it.  However,
it is only available (at a reasonable price) to universities like
us.  It would be up to NCR to package it and distribute it as
a binary product.  How about it?  Let's conduct a little straw
poll:  How many 3B2 users out there would be willing to upgrade
to SVR4, and how much would you be willing to pay?
:
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From: volta@tigger.jvnc.net (Ops Mgr)
Subject: AT&T 3B2/600 Multiprocessor For Sale or Trade (loaded)
Summary: a loaded 3B2/600 multiprocessor for sale or trade
Originator: ENS@tigger.jvnc.net
Keywords: AT&T 3B2/600 3B2 ATT expensive
Reply-To: lee%polarsun@rna.rockefeller.edu
Organization: JvNCnet
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:31:57 GMT

Posted as a favor, please respond accordingly -

For Sale or Trade:

AT&T 3B2/600   (Multiprocessor Configuration)
-=-=-=-=-=-=-

	CPU with two serial ports (console and contty)
	304M Disk Storage (two 152M drives)
	60M Tape Backup (QIC-24)
	720k Diskette Drive
	16M RAM Memory (four 4M boards)
	VCACHE (fast access sram cache)
	SCSI controller
	NI ethernet interface
	MPE multiprocessor element (CPU/MMU/MAU)
	
one	PORTS board (four serial and one parallel)
five	EPORTS boards (eight serial ports each) [up to 38.4kbps per board]
four	ISC boards (intelligent serial controllers for X.25, ISC, etc.)

	UNIX System V Release 3.2.1 with multiprocessing extensions
	 (full operating system release)

	(AT&T 615mt Windowing Terminal with builtin 2400 baud modem -
	 optional)

 Total of forty six (46) asynch serial ports, four (4) synchronous
serial ports and one (1) parallel port in I/O capacity in addition to
Ethernet/Starlan capabilities.

 Available immediately.

 Asking $7000 or b/r/o

 Will consider trades.

Email queries, responses, flames to:

   \\Lee
lee%polarsun@rna.rockefeller.edu
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From: dcb@kopachuk.uucp (David Breneman)
Subject: Re: Upgrading to MIPS processor?
Organization: Tacoma Screw Products, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:50:10 GMT

In article <gnw1q+p@rpi.edu> night@acm.rpi.edu writes:
>I understand that newer 3b2s use the MIPS processor.  Is it possible
>to upgrade an older 3b2 to use the MIPS processor?  The machines 
>involved are 3b2/310s and 3b2/400s.

The upgrade is only available for the Version 3 machines (500 and up).
Also, many, many more 3B2s are still being sold with the WE32100
CPU than the MIPS R3000A CPU.  The upgrade includes SVR4 and costs
about $23,000.

>Also, how much faster are the MIPS-based 3b2s?

My literature doesn't give any performance figures other than to
say it operates at 33MHz.


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From: les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: 3B2/400 and dos floppies
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:00:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.155941.5557@oaknet.chi.il.us> jason@oaknet.chi.il.us (Jason Vanick) writes:
>Does anybody know of a program that would allow me to read
>360k dos floppy disks on a 3B2/400? Any help would be greatly
>appreciated.

The 3B2/400 floppy is 720K, so you can't just drop in mtools and read
them. You might be able to modify mtools to effectively double step
(i.e. recompute the seek position to the appropriate place) but I
don't know how hard it would be and I'm not sure the 3B2 can access the
last track on the disk normally.

A long time ago I cobbled up a system where I formatted some 5" disks
at 720K in an AT high density drive using some public domain tools under
DOS.  I was able to access these with mtools on the 3B and with a tsr
that came with the formatter on the PC.  But, we have the Starlan DOS
server software on the 3B and PC's so it's a lot easier to just link
to a directory and copy over the network.

Les Mikesell
  les@chinet.chi.il.us
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From: ncherry@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (neil j.cherry)
Subject: Re: 3B2/400 and dos floppies
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:59:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.112413.11987@cbnews.cb.att.com> adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay) writes:
>In article <1992Nov15.155941.5557@oaknet.chi.il.us> jason@oaknet.chi.il.us (Jason Vanick) writes:
>"Does anybody know of a program that would allow me to read
>"360k dos floppy disks on a 3B2/400? Any help would be greatly
>"appreciated.
>
>MTOOLS.
>
But can it read 40 track diskettes. (I was unable to read them or write to them
for that matter.)

NJC
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Subject: Hello AT&T VLSI people.
From: mohan@tulip.cse.utoledo.edu (Mohan Pakkurti)
Date: 19 Nov 92 09:26:55 EST

Hello,

Can anyone give me info that will help me get in touch with the group at
AT&T which works on VLSI technologies and processes.

Please reply by e-mail to  mohan@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu

Thanks.
:)
--mohan

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