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Subject: Ripping up comic books (was RE: Nomad #1)
From: bjuland@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:27:17 CST
Organization: University of Missouri-Kansas City

In article <1992Mar27.075903.26674@mtholyoke.edu>, mwhitney@mtholyoke.edu (Merry Death) writes:
> ....I found it so hard to believe it that I had to put
> the book down before I tore it up right there! 
> 
> Dennis E. Thomas, guest on Meredith's account.
> Please send any e-mail to dethomas@amhux1.amherst.edu or
> roach@aux1.amherst.edu. Thanks y'all!
> "Why? Because I'm a typical cartoon bad guy, that's why!"  


Gee, that's what I did to Cage #1.  Ripped it up before I could even finish the
issue...

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From: fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy)
Subject: Image: Youngblood 1-3 to be polybagged...
Reply-To: fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 02:29:58 GMT


Went down to pick up my comics tonight + the
 clerk told me an interesting tibdit about
 Youngblood.  Even let me read the newsletter.

Paraphrased from Heroes World Distributing Co's
 "Love Notes" of April 9:

Various people at Image are now saying that 
 Youngblood #1 2 + 3 will be released as a set
 in a polybag.  It seems possible that #1 will
 not be released separately, but the article 
 was vague on that point.

HWDC was not happy about this turn of events,
 and is encouraging its clients to write letters
 of protest to Rob Liefeld.  

It seemed to me that HWDC got its information via
 telephone conversation with unnamed Image staff
 members.  Considering they felt the need to write
 an official article about it, I would tend to
 consider this "real news" rather than rumor.
-- 
Francis A. Uy
fau@po.cwru.edu
cs201329@umbc5.ubc.edu
From: jrd@frame.com (James Drew)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Casting Coup
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:34:58 GMT

So do we cast Bush as the Leader or the Abomination?

(He gets to play both parts, obviously.)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                             |     Every time I go to the beach, I have to
Jim Drew                     | smile when I see how ridiculous people look with
jrd@frame.com                | vivid white sunscreen just on their noses.  That
(Furry: Randy Puritan)       | smile is the only way I can keep from laughing
"Innocent, but not naive."   | out loud.  When I went to the nude beach, and
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From: uk02700@nx33.mik.uky.edu (mitchell e french)
Subject: Re: X-thouhgts
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 18:25:36 GMT
X-Bytes: 

In article <1992Apr15.165415.2884@wvnvms.wvnet.edu>  
nc313127@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:
> 
> 	Just some Ideas that been floating around.
> 
> 	1) anyone notice the similarity of Cable and Nick Fury. Same eye,
> 	good fighters.  Another Cable life?(like Stryfe and Wildpack)
>         And both are named Nickolas.

		Nope.  Cable's name is Nathan.
> 
> 	2) Why does the 12 and the Highlord/Externals have to be one in  
the
> 	same?
		They aren't.  Cannonball is in both groups.  That's it.  
		     The Highlords are immortal mutants.  The 12 are the
		     mutants that supposedly lead the other mutants in
		     the future.
> 
> 	3) Is it just me or did that one of the Externals(with the Green
> 	voice balloons) look alot like Gambit(X-force 10)?

		Dunno....probably.  Can't recall.
> 
> 	4) Is Mastique(sp?) the same person as Silverfox(wolvie's girl)?

		No, Mystique is not Silver Fox.  For that matter, Silver 
		     Fox isn't Silver Fox anymore.....
> 
> 	5) What is Gambits mystery power? the one that "order the  
DeathStike
> 	program" when he was fighting Wolvie in the Danger Room(or did  
Jubilee
> 	do it becaus she is really the X-traitor)?

		That wasn't a Gambit mystery power.  That was just another
		      threat thrown into the Danger Room program to be
		      a distraction.  Part of the game.
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From: acadams@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (Arthur C. Adams)
Subject: Re: WELCOME TO REC.ARTS.COMICS
Reply-To: acadams@aplcen (Arthur C. Adams)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 12:39:01 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.124020.1571@brandonu.ca> mcbeanb@brandonu.ca writes:
>
>Y'see, I was sitting at my Amiga perusing some files about the platforms
>of the candidates for the upcoming election for the executive positions
>in the Society For Scientific Creationism, when my lesbian friend Wilma 
>interrupted me with her problems about how her bisexual lover couldn't 
>get an abortion because her church didn't allow it.
>
>OOPS!  I wasn't supposed to say that!  SORRY (never happen again)
>
What kind of sub-human monster are you, having friends named Wilma?

Arthur Adams
CEO, American Association of People Who Hate People Named After 
Flintstones Characters

-- 
The world is not analog. The world is digital, just
with an incredible number of bits.
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From: albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: X-Ideas
Date: 14 Apr 1992 02:55:07 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine

In article <1992Apr13.210632.6067@newserve.cc.binghamton.edu> ba06103@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (ba06103) writes:
>        Witness seemed to be more like a telepath than anything else (knew
>what bishop found before he said anything) so lets do this.... the shapshifter
>babe (with blue skin forgot her name but she is in the mansion right now) turns
>into gambit and touches rouge. Rogue get the evil memories of her and is 
>overwhelmed runs to xavier for help and drapes herself over him. this causes
>his psi powers to be transerfered. Rouge is now angry, vengeful and very
>powerful so powerful that she blasts the blue babe from across the mansion 
>the other x-men show up and try to hold her but fail... mainly because she
>is totaly beserk with power... how about that one?

	NOT!  The shapeshifter is Mystique, the closest thing to a mother
Rogue has had since her powers developed.  She's not really a villain,
she just wants what's best for mutants.  She's a sneaky version of Magneto
in that respect.  (the evil version of Magneto, not the 3-d character
Claremont built)

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From: mss2@quads.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: DC: Silver Age Fortress of Solitude
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:13:48 GMT
Reply-To: mss2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

I'm looking for descriptions of the old, Silver-Age Fortress of Solitude.
Everything: exterior views, interior, contents, etc.  Unfortunately,
most of my comics are at home, and my Superman collection is spotty
anyway.  Anyone feel like contributing details?  I know it was in
the arctic, and I know that the key way a giant gold airline direction
marker pointing north.  Second best would be pointers to some of the
issues which described it, but what I really want to do is pick people's
memories if they're willing.  Post or e-mail as you prefer.

Thanks,

Mike

-- 
Michael S. Schiffer, LHN, FCS	"Never let your sense of morality prevent
mss2@midway.uchicago.edu	 you from doing what's right!"
mike.schiffer@um.cc.umich.edu	 --Mayor Salvor Hardin of Terminus
mss2@usite-next.uchicago.edu     Isaac Asimov, _Foundation_
From: ddd@harrier.cvs.rochester.edu (Derryl D. DePriest)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: FAQ/SQUID request
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:05:57 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester, Rochester NY

tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com writes:
In article <Apr.3.23.34.44.1992.1974@gauss.rutgers.edu> jcp@gauss.rutgers.edu (Jonathan Petersen) writes:
>>So, could some kind soul mail me either the FAQ detailing how
>>to get/ask for a shirt or the information itself?  Thank you.
>How to get a Suicide Squid shirt: I'd have to go with what one person included
>in their request for the last few shirts from the first run. Something like
>"If I don't get one, I guess I'll just have to hang out around the San Diego
>Convention Center during the Comics Con and mug someone who got one for it"
>Or if you'd prefer, send the cost of airfare from Newark to SD, and I'll  
>be glad to send you a list of people in the Central Jersey area who ordered
>them. If you're one of these people, $100 keeps you off the list.

Hmmm...could be a *new* reason how Peter David died:

  	41. Mugged for his Suicide Squid t-shirt

By the way, tyg, I hope that DC doesn't get any funny ideas about 
creating a character called Suicide Squid because so many fans wrote in
to JLA begging for SS's membership...do you have trademark or copywrite
protection? (I think I recall the shirt saying "(circle-c) A TYG and
R.A.C production").

d-
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||  |\__\___     Neuroscience Graduate Program and Center for Visual Science  
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Organization: The Pennylvania State University
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 09:38:57 EDT
From: Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: A new tack on the (Re: X-Men Traitor)

In article <1992Apr7.105810.2382@mac.cc.macalstr.edu>, tneeck@math.macalstr.edu
(The sound of hoofprints 'cross the glade...) says:
>
>        Look at the evidence.  A character is supposed to leave Excalibur in a
>few issues as a result of the X-Men's imminent guest appearance.  Scenario:
>Rachel goes with "Mommy and Daddy" to return "home".  Then she runs into
>Bishop--the confirmation that the very mission Kate Pryde sent her back to
>this
>time for FAILED.  Now considering that the Phoenix Force has been making here
>slightly loopy to start with, that revelation--combined with the Logan/Scott
>confrontation and aftermath--might just be enough to send her over the edge.
>
>        Or worse--we know she was a "hound" in her own time, used to track
>down
>other mutants.  What if her masters KNEW about the full extent of her powers?
>It might be a logical idea to such people to program her into going back
>(perhaps manipulating the events that eventually had her do so) and killing
>the
>X-Men herself...thus facilitating that very future!
>
>        I ask ye, gentlepersons [Gawd, I hate this PC-speak], what think
>you of this humble theory?  An idea--or just the mad ramblings of someone
>procrastinating on a paper?  What say you?

The character that is leaving Excalibur would be Nightcrawler who will be
founding a new hero group in Europe called Europa.  Anyone know if this is
going to be a new book, or just be doing guest appearances in Excalibur?

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From: kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: X-notes
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:22:12 GMT
Reply-To: kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <92104.114205ALWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <ALWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>  Just a few comments:

[...]

> 4) Time travel is a good concept, but it has been abused in the comics.Rachel
>    Ahab, Cable, Bishop, etc...too much. Besides if a character prevents his
>    or her timeline from happening, he/she would be altering his own existence
>    so why wouldn't he just fade away as soon as he changes the future?

What most people in the marvel universe don't understand is that it is
extremely difficult to travel into the past.  What usually happens is that
the person gets shunted over into a parallel universe, so that a paradox
cannot occur.  Reed Richards figured that out in Marvel Two-In-One #100,
and apparently Dr. Doom came across a "real" time machine, which made his
fight against Reed Richards in FF #350 possible without getting lost in
divergent time lines.
Unfortunately, it seems that everyone forgets this when dealing with
someone from "the future".  Since a person from our time who goes back in
time will get shunted to a parallel universe, why is it that people from
the future that end up in our time necessarily from "our" future?


>  5) Where did the X-men get such advanced techology...this is still the 20th
>     century...

Well, when your girlfriend is the ruler of a technologically advanced race,
and you have friends like Forge, Beast, and Reed Richards, you tend to end
up with some high class equipment.





Karthik Sheka              | It's not an optical illusion.  It just looks like
kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu |  one.
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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 12:51:51 CDT
From: <U16244@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: MARVELEONE COMICS
 <1992Apr8.151853.5810@acsu.buffalo.edu>

In article <1992Apr8.151853.5810@acsu.buffalo.edu>,
v124jw4y@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Benjamin R Pierce) says:
>
>In article <4dsdFO600awV4dCn9C@andrew.cmu.edu>, cl2g+@andrew.cmu.edu (Charles
>Anthony Leone) writes...
>
>>13. KIDDIE BOOKS
>>       All Punisher books, Moon Knight, Ghost Rider, Darkhawk, Sleepwalker,
>>Daredevil, Cage, Barbie, etc. are canceled without warning. This way the
> ^^^^^^^^^
>
>You rank Daredevil in the same league as Punisher?  Barbie and Punisher I can
>understand, but Daredevil!?!?
>
>
>
>                                                        --Ben

Don't mind Tony.  He's been snorting too many of his own typewriter ribbons.
Anyone who can't stand brand new characters and wants to keep old useless
characters like


TONY STARK AND THE SILVER SURFER!!!!!

alive has to have a few screws loose.

Doug.
From: v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (We make money the ole fashioned way. We beat people for it.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Rogue and Cyclops Questions
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:12:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr14.002610.24663@access.usask.ca>, donald@dvinci.USask.Ca (David Donald) writes...
>	I don't remember if Rogue has ever tried to use her power on a telepath
>of any sort, and in particular, a powerful one (ie Charles or Jean or Rachel or
>Betsy)... I suspect that those with such a firm grasp on their self image that
>they can manipulate themselves on the "Astral Plane" may be able to hold her 
>off or even take control of her, especially since Magneto separted Rogue from
>the "Alien" part of Carol Danvers that made her psyche "slippery" as Charles 
>once put it.

Rogue absorbed Xavier's powers when he was unconscious during the 
Return of Dark Pheonix Saga around issue 175.

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From: djh4535@rigel.tamu.edu (HARRIS, DUANE J)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: x-mordred
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:48:00 GMT

maybe scott's son where does he fit in the camalot picture. he seems more 
obvious than rachel becuase he would be the product of a union based on
deception as was mordred. both by women who ended up hating or already hated
the childs father. and also they both were going to be used for the mothers
to gain power. (am i taking this camalot thing to far)
			d.j.loki seth I 
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Organization: Sophomore, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:29:10 -0400 
From: "Jonathan D. Lyness" <jl6e+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: PEOPLE : Kyle Baker

I don't remember if this was mentioned on the weekly list of incoming
books, but . . .

Several copies of Kyle Baker's _Why_ _I_ _Hate_ _Saturn_ are in my local
comic shop, and hopefully in yours. It appears to have been rereleased!


-jon
From: sasha.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: RE:  Abortion in Comics
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:35:16 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

It it just me, or do I see the Mother of All Flamewars coming?

Now where the blazes did I leave my abestos suit...oh yeah, Lockheed took 
it out last time.  Anybody know where I can get an extra?


                                     - Sasha



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Subject: Re: Marvel's overused lines
From: dddawson@lpl.arizona.edu (Doug Dawson)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 01:35:06 GMT
Organization: Lunar & Planetary Laboratory, Tucson AZ.

In article <1992Apr7.185716.17967@njitgw.njit.edu> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
>In article <6APR199218590717@rigel.tamu.edu> rjc2870@rigel.tamu.edu (CLAYCOMB, RICHARD JAMES) writes:
>>In article <92095.224213RHK106@psuvm.psu.edu>, RHK106@psuvm.psu.edu writes...
>>>characters as if they all talked liked Wolverine i.e "We take care of our
>>>own".  Man, if I read that damn line again, I'll rip that page out and eat
>>>it. 
>>
>>Tell me about it.  The same old lines are starting to annoy me.
>>example-"The psychic knife!  The totality of my psychic powers!"
>>       -"The psychic knife!  The focus of my psychic powers!  Against it you are
>>         helpless."
>>       -"The psychic knife!  The focused totality of my psychic powers."
>>
>>Some new lines for the whole team would be nice.  I could handle it. :)   
>
>How about this overused line: "I'm the best there is at what I do, and what I
>do best isn't very nice.  I have an adamantium-laced skeleton and claws and a
>mutant healing factor..."  This one's used more often than the psychic knife
>bit.

Well, there is a distinction between the two.  Wolverine's "I'm the
best..." bit is his standard narration-introduction, not something he
says; I don't think I've ever seen it in a speech-balloon or in quotes.

Psylocke's "Focussed Totality" on the other hand, is definitely part of
her dialogue.  She seems to feel a need to explain it to everyone she
has ever used it on...including her teammates, who have heard her say it
hundreds of times by now.  In a lettercol a while back, someone asked if
she would ever stop saying that...they said (paraphrased) "No."
*Although I should note that I think I saw her avoid saying it once in
the new series...really surprised me.)

.
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: META: Re: RAC SPLIT: NO!!!
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:28:12 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

houchin@sunshine.Kodak.COM (Scott Houchin) writes:

>I also read r.a.c. without a kill file. Mostly because I have never seen a
>topic here that I can unconditionally say I would never want to read. This
>help keeps me open minded -- even Marvel puts out a couple worthwhile titles.

    That is good for you, but there are others to consider.

>I don't like the idea of a split. I really don't even like the idea of the
>mandatory subject keywords (MARVEL:, DC:, META:, ...). The only purpose they
>really serve is to allow you to kill large groups of articles without even 
>seeing them. How can know that they won't be interested in EVERY Marvel
>article to be posted until the end of time (I'm only using Marvel because
>the discussion seems to indicate that most people who are blocking out large
>groups like this are blocking out Marvel).

    Some people feel that they will never care about anything that
MARVEL produces or will produce, so for them the subject keywords work
fine. Personally I would like to see a split, but not along publisher
lines. 

>What if a few years ago the discussion had been:
>Subject: MARVEL: Alan Moore's _Watchmen_	...

    Not very likely, especially since Alan Moore did _Watchmen_ for DC.

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