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From: edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: ANOTHER JOHN SCREWUP
Date: 17 Nov 1992 20:02:53 GMT
Organization: Little to none, or maybe not......
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In article <241.62.uupcb@hal9000.UUCP> douglas.kent@hal9000.UUCP (Douglas Kent)  writes:
>-> BTW, the unedited, 8 minutes-plus version of "It's All Too Much" has
>-> been mad available on a new and very enjoyable vinyl boot called
>-> "Arrive Without Traveling".
>
>What else is on that?

"Hold Me Tight" (0:25)
 -- stereo, but breaks down fairly quickly in.

"I'm In Love" 
 -- Supposedly Lennon's demo for the song.  However, there is speculation
    this is actually a Dakota tape, unearthed during the recovery of stuff
    for the "Lost Lennon Tapes" radio series.  Features John singing, with
    piano accompanying.  (presumably played by Lennon himself)

"She's a Woman"
"I Feel Fine"
-- BBC recordings found on "The Beatles at the Beeb, V.12"  However, the
   takes are *incomplete*, despite some extra studio talk and false starts.

"That Means a Lot"
-- Takes 23 and 24.  Stereo.   Take 23 is quicker then the previous
   bootleg version, and take 24 features Paul intentionally singing
   off-key, signalling the "death" of the tune.

"We Can Work it Out"
-- The same take as the released version, but an alternate mix.

"12 Bar Original"
-- Takes 1 and 2.  Take one is a false start.   The two takes together
   are approximately 9 minutes, all in stereo.

"It's All Too Much"
-- A longer version then any previously released.   This version of the
   song was played on WABC-AM radio in mid-1968.  It was captured by someone
   on a reel-to-reel tape recorder, from which this tape originates.  As
   such, the quality is much worse then the rest of the LP, and the song
   is obviously in mono.

"Sgt. Pepper Miscellany"
-- (my own name for this part of the LP)  All of the musical material from
   the recent "Making of Sgt. Pepper" special.  Also included is a bit not
   from the special, were George Martin is instructing the horn players on
   what they will be playing.

"The Inner Light"
-- Take 5.  Alternate mono mix of the backing instruments.

"I'm So Tired"
-- Alternate mix.

The disc itself is pressed on colored vinyl.  The front cover is a photo of
the fabs ca. 1968, and the back cover is the joint painting of the four
Beatles, probably reproduced from the book _The Art of the Beatles_.

Most of this material is very nice, but the current rumor is that the
more interesting stuff from this LP will be on Yellow Dog's next release.

<ESC>




-- 
..You either kiss the future or the past goodbye...
                          -- Ringo Starr (written by O'Deherty / Velez)

                                
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From: jw@elvis.b11.ingr.com (Jeff A. Williams)
Subject: Re: Lennon leads
Reply-To: jw@elvis.b11.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:25:10 GMT

In article <69858@cup.portal.com>, djjames@cup.portal.com (Daniel J James) writes:
|> >In article <1992Nov17.215031.23291@eng.ufl.edu> greg@ise.ufl.edu (Greg O'Rear)
|> >writes:
|> >I get the opening sound of "I Feel Fine" by lightly fretting the A string
|> >at the nut, then turning it up.
|> >
|>   I remember reading (probably in lewisohn) the the feedback was done by
|> having Paul pluck a note on his bass and then letting Johns guitar pick up
|> sympathetic vibrations.

I'll have to agree with this for two reasons.  First, Lewisohn does say
it in The Book (Sunday, 18 Oct 1964, p. 50).  Second, it can be easily
heard on some bootleg, although I can't recall which one.  I think it
might have been one of the later Ultra Rare Trax discs.

Incidentally, I looked up the Lewisohn refence in my in-office copy
of The Book, which I purchased at the local Waldenbooks for $3.98.
Just though I'd rub that in :).

jw
From: dbk@cs.umd.edu (Dan Kozak)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: CD vs vinyl
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:53:51 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <1992Nov11.131150.26845@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mcodogno@nyx.cs.du.edu (Maurizio Codogno) writes:
>Yes, James, to make a CD is actually *cheaper* than to make a vinyl 
>album - in spite of the fact we are paying a lot more for CDs :-(

Sadly true, and partly responsible for my unwillingness to go CD.  But
I digress . . .

>I remember a quote, I think from GM, which talked about the problems
>he had in remastering _I want you_. In the long final ostinato, 
>eventually a white noise generator was added (from a moog?) Well,
>the higher resolution of a CD at high frequency let the noise cover
>all the music, so that they had to remix it...

I'd imagine that they simply EQed it during the mastering, not
actually remixed it.

#dan

Clever:         dbk@cs.umd.edu    | "Softly her tower crumbled in the 
Not-so-clever:  uunet!mimsy!dbk   |  sweet silent sun." - Nabokov
From: juvonen@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Sami Juhani Juvonen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: CD "Under the influence: The Original Songs the B. Covered"
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:41:43 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

I just found this CD and I thought someone here would be interested...
This is a collection of all the songs Beatles covered (or officially
released), 24 in all. I have to admit that I had not heard all of the
originals before, not even Larry Williams' Bad Boy, which is IMHO the
best rocker they ever did. 

Someone must be afraid of "sue me sue you blues", because the back has
the following note: "Nothing should be taken to construe that the
members of the Beatles or their authorised agents have endorsed the
release of this CD."  :-)

It is a great collection, good songs! By the way, I think The Beatles
did a great job with their covers, most of them are better than the
originals (or maybe I'm just used to their versions, aren't we all?)
I can post a list of the original artists in there is demand. You all
know the songs, right?

The compilation is (c) Sequel Records 1992, NEX CD 226.

Well to start a thread, what is your favourite cover song by the Beatles?
I vote for Bad Boy and maybe Money also.

 
-- 
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 / University of Helsinki / Juvonen@cc.Helsinki.FI   / pens to you while  //
/ Cultural Anthropology  / HYLK::JUVONEN            / you're busy making //
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: prokopy@sage.cc.purdue.edu (dave)
Subject: rec.music.sixties
Organization: elsewhere
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:08:44 GMT

okay, it's been suggested that i open the discussion of the proposed
"rec.music.sixties" (or "rec.music.oldies,") newsgroup to rec.music.beatles,
since we're basically the group that spawned the idea.  so ... that's
what i'll do.  basically, i guess the idea would be to post suggestions
for the first charter, and i (along with my crack staff of devoted
followers! :)) will try to slap it into shape, then we'll post that
to all the various "rec.music..." and related newsgroups/mailing-lists
for consumption by the masses.  then hopefully the process will be a
bit clearer.

so ... let's open the floor to suggestions.  what do we want this group
to be about?  just sixties pop?  older?  fifties AND sixties?  folk
rock?  "classic" rock (although they've just gotten their own group)?
"blues" rock (i.e., stones and yardbirds, etc.)?  come on, people.
throw in your $0.02! :)

hope to hear from you all!

any questions, or if you'd like to volunteer to help me out (how, i'm
not quite sure ...), e-mail me.

thanks!
-- 
( dave prokopy - prokopy@sage.cc.purdue.edu or prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu    )
( "it's time i had some time alone."                                        )
(  -r.e.m., "it's the end of the world as we know it (and i feel fine)"     )
From: cstadbg@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr M J Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Beatles/Rutles equivalents
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:31:16 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
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Here are a few more songs which were ripped of by the Rutles....

RUTLES               BEATLES

Goosestep Mama --- > Some other guy
Number 1             Twist n shout
Baby Let Me be       ? 
Hold my hand         8 days a week/She loves you/I wanna hold your hand
Blue Suede Schubert  Rollover Beethoven/Boys
I must be in love    ?
With a girl like you If i fell
Between us           ?
Living hope          Dont pass me by/Act naturally
Ouch                 Help
Its looking good     ?
Doubleback alley     Penny lane
Good times roll      Lucy in the sky.
Nevertheless         Within you Without you / Love you too
Lovelife             All you need is love
Piggy in the middle  I am the walrus
Another Day          Eleanor Rigby?
Cheese and onions    Imagine/A day in the life
Get up and go        Get back
Lets be natural      Dear prudence

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From: jwlr@escher.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:10:19 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

kmagnacca@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>In article <By3Dvt.FHn@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v201lrxa@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (NOWHERE MAN) writes:

>> 	I was in a record store this afternoon, and in the clearance
>> 	bin I found both volumes of the 'Live at the Star Club'
>> 	cassettes. Late spring or early summer, someone mentioned
>> 	that these were being pulled from the shelves due to their
>> 	questionable legality. 

>   Really?  I saw a CD over the summer in a record store that I
>thought was from the Star Club (or maybe somewhere else; it was
>definitely a live recording) that was in the same type of package
>as the normal ones; I assumed it had been released legitimately
>(this was not a record store that would carry bootlegs).  Am I
>dreaming, wrong, or has it been released?

I know a place that has *several* copies.  If they're illegal, I
think it would be news to them! 

My understanding is that those tapes have always been in a 'grey
area' legally.  It can be 'reasonably' established that the tapes
*were* recorded in December (after the Lads signed to Parlophone)
just by looking at the selection of material. (When was that Buddy
Holly song released?) But surely by now the statute of limitations
(as well as copyrights, in several Asian countries) has expired, so
maybe the legal eagles just figured it wasn't worth pursuing the
matter.

			James Willer
[any opinions above are already registered with the federal government]
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: mk568652@longs.lance.colostate.edu (Mitchell Kotler)
Subject: We Need a '60 's newsgroup now!
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:55:51 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

Yes!! We need a sixties newsgroup. I suggest one for sixties pop
and another for sixties.psychedelia.

Please, somebody who knows how to start a newsgroup, do it!!
From: brett.pasternack@hal9000.UUCP (Brett Pasternack) 
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: ANOTHER JOHN SCREWUP
Date: 13 Nov 92 01:56:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: HAL 9000 BBS, (313)663-4173, Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Reply-To: brett.pasternack@hal9000.UUCP (Brett Pasternack) 

-> So, what does John say at the beginning of "It's All Too Much" (it
-> sounds kind of like "sue your mother" or something)?  Inquiring minds
-> and all that....
"WORD TO THE MUTHA"!!! B^)!

OK, I'm sure that's not what he's saying. But it sure fits, doesn't it?

BTW, the unedited, 8 minutes-plus version of "It's All Too Much" has
been mad available on a new and very enjoyable vinyl boot called "Arrive
Without Traveling".
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From: US30139@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU
Subject: Re: Mia Farrow
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 12:39:05 CST

In article <1992Nov23.082015.673@syma.sussex.ac.uk>
stevedc@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Stephen Carter) writes:
 
>trwagner@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Ted Wagner) writes:
>: In article <56543@dime.cs.umass.edu> krovetz@cs.umass.edu (Bob Krovetz) writes:
>: >Who was with the Beatles when they were studying with the Maharishi?
>: >I know that Donovan was there, and Prudence Farrow.  Any others?
>:
>:       Mia Farrow, a couple of the Beach Boys, and Linda might have...
>: not sure...and not sure about Yoko.  I kinda doubt it.  She's flacky
>: enough.
>
>Sorry Ted.....  The Maharishi preceded Yoko and Linda.  Maybe you were
>confusing them with Cyn and Jane.
 
Doesn't the India trip precede Linda Eastman?  Don't I remember a picture
of the group sitting around--John and Paul have matching Martin guitars--
and Jane Asher is there?
 
But I do believe Paul and Jane called it quits pretty soon after that trip.
Am I right, folks?
 
mikejames (US30139@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: tmh.admin@mhs.unc.edu (Tim Hildebrandt)
Subject: Re: Beatles Anomalies more and more
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:46:44 GMT

test test test
             



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From: raindrop@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nathaniel Michael Pearson)
Subject: Re: Get Back / Supposed Beatle Songs
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 00:31:48 GMT

In article <1eit8lINN14d@clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk> cstadbg@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr M J Brown) writes:
>In article <168A575E9.CGARNER@cmsa.gmr.com> CGARNER@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
>>In article <1eid30INN5p3@clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk>
>>cstadbg@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr M J Brown) writes:
>>
>
>>* First ... has anybody seen the lyrics [deleted]
>>>  along the lines of "Don't dig no pakistanis..."
>>I don't think the line is "I don't dig no Pakastanis....".  From a Rolling
>>Stone interview, Paul remarked that this portion of the song was indeed
>>
>>ANTI racism and was something to the effect of "25 Pakastanis living
>>in a (insert London area) flat....".  A social comment on the sub-
>>standard living conditions of this ethnic group at this time.
>
>As i remember it, it was "Don't  dig no pakistanis taking all the jobs,
>Get back to where you once belong" .... hardly ANTI racist. Maybe he said
>the thing about the flat to cover the words that were the real inspiration?
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	I hope this topic doesn't blow up, but as I read the lines,
	Paul is caustically passing along the bigoted opinion of some
	of the British populace at the time...he's letting someone else
	speak through his song, and I've got a feeling (n.p.i.) that
	he's ridiculing the racist sentiment expressed.

				Nat Pearson
				raindrop@leland.stanford.edu
From: rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Hodge-Podge
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:05:54 GMT
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: kariba.bbn.com

A new cd: HODGE-PODGE and a new label: Black Dog (cat# BD-001). Black
Dog claims to be a subsidiary of Yellow Dog -- perhaps dedicated to
less worthy material? Anyway, there are three tracks on here featuring
material that's new to me: an alternate take of Yesterday (from
acetate); take 2 of Norwegian Wood; and a couple of very different but
unfortunately incomplete takes of That Means A Lot. Sound quality is
considerably below YD standards on all three. The rest of the disc is
of minimal interest: a slightly more thorough version of 12-Bar Blues;
an overdub session for Penny Lane featuring George Martin and studio
musicians (no Beatles); the bootlegger's "reconstruction" (their word)
of an alternate mix of I'm So Tired; a couple of off-speed rough mixes
of I'm So Tired; the video soundtrack version of Revolution; some
piano noodling that may or may not be a home recording of Paul
practicing Long and Winding Road; one or two other similar items.
From: bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Rutles vs Beatles
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:33:23 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
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In article <1edvi0INNp1j@menudo.uh.edu> edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen) writes:
>
>All of this is a bit ironic, in light of the fact that McCartney has reportedly
>never been pleased with the film "The Rutles", and (according to rumor) has
>gone out of his way to avoid encounters with either Innes, or Idle...
>

No doubt it also irks Dr. Rock that Harrison had a bit part in the movie,
thereby giving it a "Beatle stamp of approval". 


Bruce




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508-460-2816
From: ns@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Nancy M. Schnepp)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: McCARTNEY TO TOUR 1993
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:09:07 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Physics Department

================================================================

From Gannett News Service:

McCartney rehearsing for world concert tour

Paul McCartney and his band have begun intense rehearsals for
the worldwide concert tour they'll kick off in Australiain
March---and bring to the States in the spring.  According to
Linda McCartney, the U.S. tour leg will be ``quite extensive".

She also reports they're getting ready to lens a video for
``Hope of Deliverance", the single that'll give the public
its first taste of the much-talked about album on which
McCartney's been working much of the year.  Linda McCartney
jokes that the album might end up being called ``Don't Know Yet
---because that's what we keep saying every time someone asks
us the title."

==================================================================
From: brett.pasternack@hal9000.UUCP (Brett Pasternack) 
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: BEATLES' ARTICLES IN GOLD
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:45:00 GMT
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Reply-To: brett.pasternack@hal9000.UUCP (Brett Pasternack) 

I found the new Goldmine to be below the standard of their previous
Beatle issues. The affidavit was very interesting--I particularly
enjoyed seeing John claim that the (now easy to see) Please Please
Me-revisited cover for Get Back "Never happened"!
But the interview with George was unenlightening and there weren't as
many features as last year. And I can't believe they recycled the "White
Album" photo of George as the cover--couldn't they come up with
something a little less overused?!
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From: weiss@babbage.seas.ucla.edu (Michael Weiss)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: "Bungalow Bill" - a theory?
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:43:16 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

In article <8f1Eo_C00awYQNF0Qi@andrew.cmu.edu> jl6e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jonathan D. Lyness) writes:
>I was thinking about the posts about "The Continuing Story of Bungalow
>Bill" from a few days ago, and how several people agreed that it was one
>of the very silliest songs that John Lennon ever wrote. Something
>occured to me: could this song be a veiled reference to the Vietnam war?

I was always of the impression that the song was to be taken much more
literally.  I thought it was about the lame excuses that people use to go out
hunting, and how supposedly "brave" they all were when, in fact, they were the
ones with the guns.
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From: briganti@rhea.trl.OZ.AU (Joe Briganti)
Subject: Re: Beatles' articles in Goldmine
Followup-To: rec.music.beatles
Reply-To: j.briganti@trl.oz.au (Joe Briganti)
Organization: Telecommunications Research Laboratories, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:53:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.012252.14758@ncar.ucar.edu> tparker@niwot.scd.ucar.edu (Tom Parker) writes:
>Just picked up the latest issue of Goldmine magazine (11/27/92) and
>found that it contains several interesting Beatles' articles:
>
>  - "The Missing Compact Beatles", which discusses which legitimate
>    releases are not available on CD and also describes differences
>    between versions (e.g. mono/stereo, UK/USA).

Tom

how about posting the releases not available on CD (if it ain't too long!)
Thanks in advance,

--
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From: tp923083@jarrah.canberra.edu.au (Simon Porritt)
Subject: Re: Beatles and Pink Floyd (Was: Re: beatles in other songs)
Organization: Info Sci & Eng, University of Canberra, AUSTRALIA
Date: 15 Nov 92 23:57:31 GMT

In <1689B7D29.CGARNER@cmsa.gmr.com> CGARNER@cmsa.gmr.com writes:

>In article <1992Nov10.053625.14612@math.ucla.edu>
>dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu (saki) writes:

>>
>>In article <lftmqbINNsc@news.bbn.com> welch@bbn.com (Tom Welch Jr.) writes:
>>>bdonahue@mace.cc.purdue.edu (brian) writes:
>>>
>>>[Stuff deleted]
>>>Pink Floyd recorded their first album "The Piper at the Gates of Dawn", in Abb
>>>Road...at the same time that the Beatles were recording Sgt. Pepper. I read
>>>that Paul came into their studio when they were recording, and listened...
>>
>>I'm not sure who listened, but the Fabs and the Floyd were indeed in
>>Abbey Road during the same time period, and there are stories floating
>>around that either Paul or John popped in to see what Floyd were up to.

>I recall reading that the Floyd popped into Abbey Road to meet the
>Beatles (their idols) during the Pepper sessions and the fabs were
>so stoned that the Floyd were shocked.  Having said that I must admit
>that the source for this tidbit is the biographiction LOJL by Albert
>Golddigger. Therefore, any resemblance to the truth is purely
>coincidental.  BTW have I blown my credability with rmb?

>cg


I read that too. I laughed to think that Pink Floyd were scared,
musically speaking, by anyone. Did you read the one about John Lennon
careening about on the roof of the studios on an LSD induced high and
George Martin didn't even realise? He put him up there to cool off, he
said.