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From: hesprich@seas.gwu.edu (David G. Hesprich)
Subject: Re: Driver for PAS16 and CD-ROM
Keywords: PAS 16 CD-ROM DRIVERS
Organization: George Washington University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:36:56 GMT

The SCSI port on the PAS-16 requires drivers written specifically for that card.  I got mine from the company that sold me my NEC-84 (they had the Mediavision
driver package in stock).  You *must* order these drivers from either Mediavision, or Trantor (I think, they write the drivers for MV).  These are commercial
programs and are not posted anywhere.  They are gonna cost you, and your have to buy the cable kit that the drivers come with (the NEC comes with the SCSI
cable, but not the CD-audio cable to connect the CD output to the PAS-16).
To be honest, it's not a bad deal, really, and MV really can't run it any other
way and still keep things simple, that's just the way it is.

So, pull out your manual and call MV cust. service and order the CD-ROM driver
kit for the PAS-16 and the NEC-84...

Once you have the drivers, they install themselves no problem.  Though when you
go to install the CD-ROM driver in Windows (this is the MCI driver that came with Windows, not part of the driver kit) make sure your have a CD-audio CD in the drive _BEFORE_ you install the driver, otherwise the driver won't install
properly.  This really isn't explained anywhere.

Enjoy, the NEC drives are really sweet...




Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: Mark Kovarski <kovarski@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Best, moderately priced soundcard..
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:34:37 GMT

ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran) writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.044531.25292@zooid.guild.org> Mark Kovarski <kovarski@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>>It is obvious that one will always say his card is the best. In terms of sound
>>quality, the Turtle Beach Multisound is the best one. In the second place, I
>>would put the PAS-16. Third is the Gravis Ultrasound due to its "flaws."
>>Last, and I mean by far last, is the Microsoft card. This card is the worse
>>thing I have ever seen. It doesn't have anything, it doesn't emulate any
>>other cards. What can I say, a typical Microsoft product.
>>
>>1) TB Multisound (if you want to play games, forget it)
>>2) PAS-16 (SCSI and it DOES sound VERY GOOD despite some critics)
>>3) Gravis Ultrasound (For a little more I would get the PAS but the GUS is
>>   also a very good card)
>
>I would have to disagree somewhat with your ranking.  The only way I think
>that the PAS-16 will even start to approach the GUS in terms of music
>quality is if you play an extraordinarily clean and crisp MOD file through
>the PAS's DAC.  Don't even bother to make the card's FM half try to 
>compete with the Ultrasound in terms of realism.  But even with MODs,
>you'll be limited to 4-voice 8-bit audio, and a cpu-intensive sound
>generation technique compared to the Ultrasound's 16 stereo, 16-bit
>voices that are driven by dedicated hardware, thus, freeing up the cpu
>for other less trivial tasks.  The GUS is clearly ahead of every FM-based
>soundcard now available.  Whatever flaws the card may have (and it has a
>few minor ones) does not warrant demoting it to a rank below the PAS-16.
>Furthermore, the GUS's flaws are almost all software-related and can be
>easily fixed with software updates.  
>
>Phat.

Maybe I can put it this way. If you want a SCSI controller and good quality
sound, the PAS-16 is the way to go. The sound is very good regardless of
what people say. If you don't need the SCSI and you don't need 44.1 KHz
digitizing, I would recommend the GUS.

I have seen the GUS in numerous stores now as well as the PAS-16 so they are
available. At least here in Toronto, Canada.

Mind you, the Sound Blaster Pro, is also a good card with lots of support.

Whatever the case, people will have to decide what they want.

The Microsoft card, which is just a label. From what I know, the hardware is
licensed from Compaq, and Compaq offers exactly the same thing with their
computers. For the regular home user, the card is more than useless. As far
as business goes, they will also have a hard time. Many companies still use
the soundblaster cards for presentation. I think we can savely say that the
card does not present a serious threat to the other companies.

Mark K.
E-Mail: kovarski@zooid.guild.org


Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: smithb@cognos.com (Brad Smith)
Subject: Re: Problems with new PAS16 Windows drivers (1.
Organization: Cognos Incorporated, Ottawa CANADA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:45:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.142057.29385@sulo.otol.fi> ariz@sulo.otol.fi (A Salmela) writes:
 [previous quotes deleted]

>Sorry folks, but I just installed the new drivers a few days ago, and I have
>no kind of problems with my configurtion.

Further on the problems I was having with the new PAS drivers. After much
dinking with my system this past weekend, I managed to get everything working
okay.
It appears to depend on which DMA/IRQ settings you're using for the *DOS*
driver. There is some interaction now that causes the Windows drivers to
*think* there's a conflict, even if none exists.

The solution is to try different DMA/IRQ combinations, setting both the DOS and
Windows drivers to use the same pair. Eventually you'll find a combination that
works.
In my case, using DMA7, IRQ10 allowed both drivers to work properly.

Hope this helps;
Brad.

P.S. I plan to leave a note for Media Vision on their BBS as soon as I can
connect.
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: mech413@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: SB 16 on sale in New Zealand
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:46:11 GMT

Hi all,

The computer store that I work for part time has had a Sound Blaster 16
in for a few days now. Not bad for New Zealand. We were selling these
for NZ $800 which would equates to about US $300??. For Comparison
we sell the SB Pro version 2 with midi kit for NZ $590 and the SB Pro
version 2 without midi kit for NZ $500.

Hope this helps.

As I havn't had a chance to play with it yet so I can't offer an opinion
but from the specs on the box it looks impressive. I will forward 
details if there is an interest.

Cheers

Tim Pierre
University of Canterbury
Christchurch
New Zealand
From: lpw@lance.esd.sgi.com (Lance Welsh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: FAQ: list of known PC Soundcards - midNovember
Date: 22 Nov 92 01:50:44 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

Looking at the soundcards on the shelf and in magazines,
it's really hard to tell how they work with Windows.

Could this info be put in the FAQ?

Some claim Windows compatability but look like all
the budled applications are full-screen DOS apps.

Some look like a mix between DOS apps and Windows apps.

Is there a stronger claim than Windows compatability
for those cards that truly support (and use) Windows?

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From: pjb@cci632.cci.com (Phil Busardo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: TURTLE BEACH SYSTEMS-MULTISOUND
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:19:54 GMT
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY

>
>That's all - if people want more or have SPECIALTY questions, just ask!
>
What about midi?
From: moddan@bowker.com (Daniel Nicholson  )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Ultrasound MIDI sampling applications
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 18:08:54 EST
Organization: Bowker Electronic Publishing, New Providence NJ

mic@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Clarke) writes:

> Please tell us what you have in mind for a MIDI sampler.  I presume you mean 
> MIDI-controlled and triggered sample recorder and playback capability?
> 
> I want the ability to have my IBM PC clone execute a MS Windows based
> sequencer and to have MIDI commands in that sequencer trigger samples through
> the GUS.  I would like my MIDI playback to happen both on the internal voices
> in the GUS and on my exeternal synthesizer (a Yamaha SY-77, in my particular
> case). 

This is exactly the kind of thing we're working on, except that incorporates 
it's own sequencer and patch (sample) editor.
     - Dan Nicholson (PCkS)
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From: mccreary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Sean McCreary)
Subject: Re: TURTLE BEACH SYSTEMS-MULTISOUND
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:55:35 GMT

Here is the response I got from Roy Smith at Turtle Beach when I asked
about the developer's kit:

>We have released the MultiSound Developer's Kit, which documents how to use
>the card from DOS or other OS, but this kit does not get into the DSP code.
>We plan to make a DSP developer's kit for it, but since this requires us to
>completely document our proprietary Hurricane archictecture, we are unlikely
>to make the DSP kit widely available. In past meetings, I've heard that it
>will be available to OEM's who plan to purchase significant quantities of
>boards. If you like, I can fax you the table of contents of the dev kit so
>you can see what topics are discussed.
 
>This is not engraved in stone, and may change, but that's the current plan.
 
Well, it seems this means the DSP is off-limits to independent software
hackers, a major diappointment for me.  I am very doubtful that the
commercial market will produce the kind of synthesis software I am
interested in, and so I am stuck.  If you want access to the programming
interface for the DSP, please mail Turtle Beach!  Roy can be reached at
75300.1374@compuserve.com from the Internet, and the street address of
Turtle Beach is:

        Turtle Beach Systems
        PO Box 5074
        York, PA 17404
        (717)843-6916
        FAX (717)843-8319

Please, if you send mail, be polite.  We don't want to antagonize the
friendly folks at Turtle Beach!  We just want to let them know there are
cutomers (and potential customers) who need more documentation for their
hardware than they currently offer.
-- 
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Given the same/ State of integrity/ It will surely serve us well -- Neil Peart
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: tonyb@juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Tony Berke )
Subject: any suggestions for 4 channel AD/DA ??
Organization: M.I.T. Lincoln Lab - Group 43
Distribution: comp
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:43:50

All these inexpensive 16 bit stereo sound cards are driving me nuts...
I need the ability to do at least 4-channel playback at 44.1 or 48 kHz,
and 3 or 4 channel recording would be a big plus.

Do any of these things (Turtle Beach, GUS, PAS-16, etc) have either a)
a daughtercard to add another pair of inputs or outputs, or b) an architecture
that allows two or more complete boards to sit in the same machine and operate
simultaneously.

So far, the jump to 4 tracks seems to push you right out of the game-card league,
and into the high-end hard-disk recording systems, with a price multiplier of
10 or 20.  It also pushes you in the direction of the Mac, unless you try really
hard to resist.  The end result is a $10,000 system, which seems rather silly.
For less money than that, I could by TWO PC's with 2-track soundboards, and sync
them together with MIDI.  I'd rather avoid something that kludgey, however.

The only semi-cheap solution I've found so far is the Atari Falcon, but it isn't
exactly free, and it doesn't exactly exist yet, either.

Any other suggestions?


Tony
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-)
Subject: Re: GTS at wuarchive
Organization: OFSA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:33:11 GMT

jleon@girtab.usc.edu (Juan Carlos Leon)
>Does anybody knows what happened with the gtssam7.zip file? It seems to be
>missing.
>
>First impression: This program is GREAT!!!!!!!!!
>Did you noticed it? it allows 8 tracks!!!
>
>Juan Leon.
>  
>


Yeah, gtssam7.zip is missing and on saffron gtssam3.zip is of zero
length as is '11 ? I have everything but gtssam3.zip though between
the wuarchive and saffron. Anyone wanna send me gtssam3.zip? I have
all the zips beside that one and they appera complete.

First Impression: One of the easiest and most powerful programs to
use. There are a lot of things that need looking at, a few bugs and so
on and it would be nice to see all the tracks in use at one time...I
dunno, i am going to play with this some more and then list the things
that I would like to see. 
I know the author says he isn't goig to do anything for about a year
with it but maybe we can talk him into it. :)

Gee, now I am torn between using my spare time playing with this and
Modedit 3....*sigh*

Oh, one last thing. Anyone experience and error message about memory
being full and to "dump samples"? I get this on some of the sample
songs.

Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ismith@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Chris Smith)
Subject: Re: MOD and MIDI file format in need
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:19:32 GMT

In article <20NOV92.13363857@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw> s234617@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw writes:
>  Hello all!
>  Is there anybody please tell me any ftp site to get the info for 
>programming the MOD and MIDI files? Thanx!
>
 To learn how to program Mods, pick up a copy of modedit301 at wuarchive,
the documetation is EXCELLENT. Thats were I learned. As for MIDI, Im not sure
there. I think it is dependent on the sequencer you use. Im not sure how 
standardized the are.


Chris

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From: gting@fraser.sfu.ca (Gabriel Sii Kuok Ting)
Subject: Re: MIDI files. Where?? FTP Site Address requested.
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 12:00:29 GMT

markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN) writes:

>Hi,

>	Is there an FTP site other than epas where I can find some MIDI 
>files?  They're hard to track down...

Try archive.cs.ruu.nl in the pub/MIDI directory. So far, they've got the
most number of midi files I've seen on a site, although there may be more
that I haven't seen. Pretty old, some of them, but still sound GREAT on the
GUS. (I just LOVE styx-32.mid)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
Subject: Re: Best, moderately priced soundcard..
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 09:52:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.233437.18895@zooid.guild.org> Mark Kovarski <kovarski@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>
>Maybe I can put it this way. If you want a SCSI controller and good quality
>sound, the PAS-16 is the way to go. The sound is very good regardless of
>what people say. If you don't need the SCSI and you don't need 44.1 KHz
>digitizing, I would recommend the GUS.
>

The basic GUS *can* sample at 44.1 kHz.  For 16-bit recording and SCSI,
daughtercards are available.  The GUS with both options will probably
cost not much more than a PAS-16, but it will sound a hell of a lot
better.

Phat.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: pmueller@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (The Highlander)
Subject: Re: Wolfenstein and PAS 16 HELP!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:38:39 GMT

icarus@lascar.puc.cl (Edo. Jimenez IIC) writes:


> Hello, everybody....
> I was playing Wolfenstein but with my soundcard, is not playing all
>sounds, sometimes the sounds of the doors is lost, I have test it

>changing the dma to 1 and irq 5, but it doesnt solve the problem,
>if somebody can help me I ll be gratefull 

> Thanks in Advance.

> 

My guess is that your using the Shareware version of wolf3d.  
Yes, this is a problem, that i have not been able to explain, but i 
bought the Registered version, and the problem doesn't exist...
my guess is that it's either a bug that was caused when they stripped
down the shareware version, or something they found in the shareware version
and then corrected in the registered version.

my only advice is to get the registered version, it's well worth it!

-pete

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: bjornhk@dhhalden.no (BJORN HAAVARD KLEVEN)
Subject: Re: GUS SB emulation
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:14:39 GMT

>Well, first of all, I really don't want to have to resort to having 2 sound
>cards.  If I decide to go and get a new one, it will be as an UPGRADE, not
>as another accessory.  Although I don't plan on using the card for MIDI, 
>I do plan on using it for some limited recordings and mixing in the windows
>enviornment.  Currently, the THUNDERBOARD sounds like crap in windows -- loud
>hissing, popping, etc. - so I would therefore like a card that would utilize
>the windows potential.  But I also notice that there is a strong trend in 

So; use the GUS for Windows and whatever other hi-quality requirements you 
have for the moment, and the TB for the SB stuff. My point is that since 
most programs soon will have native GUS-support, it wouldn't be a wise 
investment to buy inferior technology (the SB Pro 16 still hasn't got 
wavetable synthesis in hardware). What I suggested was to endure the TB for 
SB-support games for a little while longer, just until GUS support arrives. 
True, software mfg'ers are begining to support the SB Pro, but it's still 
not that much better than the same old SB. 

>games that support the SB PRO now, which is why I'm choosing not to get the 
>PAS 16 due to its limited hardware compatability with only the SB.  So 
>basically its down to either the GUS or the SB16 - tho I still don't know how
>much the SB16 sells for.   My only apprehension about the GUS is that
>I don't want to get a card that will not be expelicitely supprted (ie PAS16)
>and has limited emulation of the mainstream stuff...

It will be, software developers have a better reason for supporting the GUS 
than the PAS16.

>	Guess only time will tell....

Yes, but wait to hear it will tell you...

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From: lestrade@Ra.MsState.Edu (John Patrick Lestrade)
Subject: Where to buy memory for the GUS?
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:01:55 GMT

OK, I feel guilty that I am a complete novice at soundcards and yet
I have one while ``experts'' are still waiting.  But I am having a good
time anyway!  USS8 is a little clumsy, but it is fun to play with.
Can anyone give me some advice on where to buy the extra memory
for this beautiful red card?  (suggested price and type of chip too)
thanks
patrick

--
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cnesta::lestrade                       Let's try again in '96!
lestrade@ra.msstate.edu
From: poe@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: ULTRASOUND OWNERS, PLEASE HELP!!!!
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:27:34 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Hello World.

My friend went out and bought a Gravis Ultrasound as I'm waiting 
for mine to arrive from EA. From what we've seen so far, the SB
emulation is _scary_. 

WOLF3D seems to lock up a lot. the manual stated a particular option 
to load SBOS wiht, but it still locks. The music sounds radically different
from an SB. Is this normal?

STUNT ISLAND starts ok, but all of the voices/music/sfx are staticky.

I brought over some of the EuroDemos (like UNREAL) to try. Since he 
uses DR-DOS 6.0, we tried HYSTDEMO (overload). The music was EXTREMELY
static filled. If I chose a high mixing speed, it came out very garbled
and slow.

Is all of this normal behavior for the GUS, or does he have a defective 
card. Will I get these symptoms when my card arrives?

Any information or tips would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Phil
POE@WHARTON.UPENN.EDU

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: jon@chopin.udel.edu (Jon Deutsch)
Subject: Re: D10 vs. MT32
Organization: University of Delaware - What state is that in?
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:21:31 GMT

I posted the SysEx file to turn your D10 into an MT32 on
rec.music.makers.synth and rec.music.synth.

Subject: Turn your D10 into an MT32! (SysEx file included)

Enjoy.


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From: rxa21@po.CWRU.Edu (Ranjit Annamalai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: That darn environment variable blaster=
Date: 16 Nov 1992 04:44:31 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: rxa21@po.CWRU.Edu (Ranjit Annamalai)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


I wanted to make sure that this is not what it keeping me from some of my
games such as F3 and Starcon2 working so I am requesting any pas users to
send me their environment variable setting for "blaster="  I can't find it
in the manual.  If you can explain it to me please do I think I understand
most of it but I want to be sure.

Thanks again!
Ranjit
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: lam836@cucs18.cs.cuhk.hk (Lam Lai Yin Savio)
Subject: Stereo MOD player for the PAS-16?
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:08:36 GMT

Is there any good Stereo MOD player for the PAS-16 besides the
TrakBlaster that comes with the card? I like the TrakBlaster but would
like to try others for comparison.

BTW, seems most good PC demos with Stereo sound support the SBPro only,
is there any that supports the PAS?

Any suggestions appreciated.

	Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Savio Lam.
Email: lam836@cs.cuhk.hk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: MediaVision
From: rider@qed.cts.com (Tim Rider)
Date: 20 Nov 92 01:42:40 GMT
Organization: The QED BBS, Lakewood CA

ModDan... Who said MediaVision was having financial problems?  They've 
been going strong since the release of the PAS-16.  Only a little bit of 
trouble with Creative Labs, which is now settled.  (Out of court)


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