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From: dhosek@hmcvax.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: DirectTeX
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: 1 Sep 92 10:57:59 PDT

In article <1992Sep1.130513.15275@husc3.harvard.edu>, gouvea@zariski.harvard.edu (Fernando Gouvea) writes:
> In article <1992Aug31.233934.1@cbrown.claremont.edu> dhosek@cbrown.claremont.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Aug31.172419.15257@husc3.harvard.edu>, gouvea@zariski.harvard.edu (Fernando Gouvea) writes:
>>> By the way: for Mac users who have access to the MPW shell, this
>>> implementation of TeX is hard to beat!

>>Well, I haven't seen DirectTeX in person, but Textures is not too
>>shabby. The most recent release has had a great deal of the inner
>>loop optimised in 68000 assembly resulting in speed increases of
>>200% or more. On a Quadra they're claiming TeXbook processing at
>>rates of about 40 pages per SECOND. That's slick. I have my
>>doubts about the utility of "Flash mode", but some people like
>>it.

> Yes, but no metafont, 

A point of sorts, but much as I hate to admit it, MF is a dying
format. Blue Sky supplies the CM fonts in Type 1 PS format
standard now (which means life is a little unpleasant on a low
memory low end Mac) and most of us are moving to Type 1 as our
font format anyway.

Blue Sky did develop a MF, but haven't released it (or is this
one of the secret call us and we'll send it to you deals) since
there isn't a real big market for it.

> no integrated BibTeX and Makeindex, 

That's a valid point. They ship with standalone BibTeX and
Makeindex, but they're a pain to work with even with task
switching.

>no
> (semi-)automatic font generation, 

Yes there is. It's called ATM. I've never seen Textures come up
blank on a font bitmap request.

>and proprietary formats for everything... 

Hmm, dvitool lets one export/import DVI files, reading
from/saving to text files for the source is likewise trivial. And
if you must use bitmap fonts, you can get a utility from Blue Sky
(for free!) for doing the translation.

Plus, at many educational institutions, a site license is held
and the package can be had relatively inexpensively. Probably at
a price comparable to buying MPW, no?

-dh

Xref: sparky comp.text.tex:10820 comp.sources.wanted:4186 vmsnet.sources.d:570
From: unregistered@newcastle.ac.uk (Margarida Pereira-Leite)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sources.wanted,vmsnet.sources.d
Subject: Latex macros for phd thesis
Summary: latex phd thesis macros wanted
Keywords: latex, macros, phd thesis
Date: 2 Sep 92 11:55:42 GMT
Organization: Chemical & Process Engineering Dept, University of Newcastle, UK.


    I would be very gratefull if someone could tell me where I can
get some latex macros for the layout of a phd thesis (or even send 
them to me!).
    My address is

       m.pereira-leite@uk.ac.newcastle

or

      m.pereira-leite@newcastle.ac.uk


   Thank you.
From: Karl Berry <karl@claude.cs.umb.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: volunteers needed to help make fonts for GNU
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:17:24 -0400
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

We need volunteers to help create fonts for the GNU project.  You do not
need to be an expert type designer to help, but you do need to know
enough about TeX and/or PostScript to be able to install and test new
fonts.  Example: if you know neither (1) the purpose of TeX utility
program `gftopk' nor (2) what the PostScript `scalefont' command does,
you probably need more experience before you can help.

If you can volunteer, the first step is to compile the font utilities.
After that, contact me (karl@gnu.ai.mit.edu).  I will get you a scanned
type specimen image.  The manual explains how to use these utilities to
turn that into a font you can use in TeX or PostScript.
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: burton@hops.larc.nasa.gov (John Burton)
Subject: BibTeX / LaTeX question...
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:40:03 GMT

Okay, I know this is probably an easy question, but I just can't
seem to find an answer. How do I get BibTeX/LaTeX to generate
a bibliography at the end of a report (report.sty) with NO reference 
labels in front of the entry ? i.e. what I want is

  Blow, Joe, "The decline and fall of humor in America",
  Null Press Inc., 1999.

what I get is

 [1] Blow, Joe, "The decline and fall of humor in America",
     Null Press Inc., 1999.

My first (obvious) attempt was to use the \nocite{} construct
but this didn't work...suggestions?

John
jcburt@gatsibm.larc.nasa.gov
burton@hops.larc.nasa.gov
From: Wolfgang Ratzka <wolfgang.ratzka@rphs1.physik.uni-regensburg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: RE: Boldface greek letters....How to?
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 10:39:01 +0200
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

John Patrick Lestrade writes:
	I am in need of boldface greeks to represent vectors.  Is this hard to
	achieve?

In LaTeX I use (Warning, Poor Man's bold is not very pretty):

%
\newcommand{\pmb}[1]{%
\setbox0=\hbox{#1}%
\kern-.02em\copy0\kern-\wd0
\kern+.04em\copy0\kern-\wd0
\kern-.02em\raise.0217em\box0}
%
\newcommand{\vek}[1]{
\mathchoice{\mbox{\boldmath$#1$}}%
{\mbox{\boldmath$#1$}}%
{\pmb{$\scriptstyle#1$}}%
{\pmb{$\scriptscriptstyle#1$}}}
%
      ___
|    |   |
| /\ |  \
|/  \|	 \_______________________________________________ Wolfgang Ratzka

X400:	ratzka@rphs1.physik.uni-regensburg.dbp.de
	ratzka@vax1.rz.uni-regensburg.dbp.de
SMTP:	ratzka@rphs1.physik.uni-regensburg.de
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Phone:	+49 941 943 2085
From: johan@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Johan Wevers)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Call to Glen Hansen.
Date: 26 Aug 92 07:58:35 GMT
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands.

Glen, you mailed me, but every reply bounced. Could you try again?

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* johan@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl *     1 |   \ u \  X  /         |   * 
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From: gbol@rglnext.geol.vt.edu (Gregory Lampshire)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: styles and NFSS....wrong name in note
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:45:23 GMT



Tom Jones name is really David Jones.  Got them switched in my mind.


--
Gregory Lampshire 
Virginia Tech 
Bradley Department of Electrical Engineering
gbol@rglnext.geol.vt.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
------------------------
My opinions are my very own and do not reflect the opinions of any  
employer
From: gtoal@cursci.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: "Type & Set" system (April edition of TugBoat) beta-test wanted.
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:35:02 GMT
Reply-To: Graham Toal <gtoal@ed.ac.uk>
Organization: Current Science Tel: +44 71 323 0323 Fax: +44 71 580 1938


Hello,
we're looking for volunteers to try out the 'Type & Set' system which
was written up in the April edition of TugBoat.  If you read the
article, and are interested, let us know please.

We're only looking for three or four people, and those who volunteer
will be expected to use the system seriously for about a month, and
write a report at the end outlining any problems you found.

The only bribery we can offer is that you'll get a free copy of the
final version and the same level of support as paying customers.

This system is especially good for journal production, or anywhere
that large volumes of documents go out regularly all in the same style.
It's TeX-based, but tries to present a simpler interface, and can be
used by non-techies with a minimum of training.  We'd expect field
trial sites to have at least one competant techie though, even if
most of your dataprep people aren't.

Volunteers are welcome from *anywhere* in the world - US or UK or otherwise.
It'll be a good test of our customer support...

Thanks if you're willing to help.

Graham Toal <gtoal@cursci.co.uk>
From: jimr@saturn.Rational.COM (Jim Regan)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: TeX ---->Frame filter
Keywords: TeX --->Frame filter
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:48:50 GMT

I'm in need of a filter to convert TeX coded files so that Frame 3.1 can use
them. Any pointers to a filter that would help me do this would be greatly
appreciated.

Jim Regan
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: evan@sil.org (Evan Antworth)
Subject: Re: Interactive BiBTeX-database program?
Organization: Summer Institute of Linguistics (Dallas, TX)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 17:33:12 GMT
Keywords: bibtex

In article <hm334tu.714827218@unidui> you write:
>Hello,
>
>is there a program which lets you interacticly create and modify
>BiBTeX databases. 
>
>
>Thank you in advance
>
>Dirk 
>
>
>Dirk Talkenberger
>Department of Theoretical Physics, University Duisburg
>EMail: dirk@hal6000.uni-duisburg.de

You didn't say for what system. I have a Macintosh HyperCard stack for 
maintaining BibTeX databases, including importing and of course exporting.

--Evan

Evan Antworth                   | Internet: evan@sil.org
Academic Computing Department   | UUCP:     ...!uunet!convex!txsil!evan
Summer Institute of Linguistics | phone:    214/709-2418
7500 W. Camp Wisdom Road        | fax:      214/709-3387
Dallas, TX  75236               |
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From: phfrom@nyx.uni-konstanz.de (Hartmut Frommert)
Subject: Re: SliTeX Logo?
Organization: Dept. of Physics, University of Constance
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:40:20 GMT

Schoepf@sc.ZIB-Berlin.de (Rainer Schoepf) writes:

>   Is there an official (whatever that means) definition of the SliTeX
>   logo?  [..]

>Why, it's part of latex.tex:

But not in my old <9 Jan 90> version included in emTeX. So thanks for 
delivery. 
--
 Hartmut Frommert, Physics, Univ of Constance, | + Whale killing is murder. +
 P.O.Box 55 60, D-W-7750 Konstanz, Germany | + Eat whale killers, not whales.
 E-Mail: <phfrom@dknkurz1.bitnet> or <phfrom@nyx.uni-konstanz.de>
+    "Windows NoT" expands in German to "Windows Noch Teurer"
+                                                ^even   ^more expensive
From: chenm@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Ming chen)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Problems with "footnote"
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:21:52 GMT
Distribution: comp.text.tex
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.


Can anyone tell me what's wrong with the following commands:

%===========================================================

\author{M. Chen\footnotemark[1] ~~and M. Comeau\footnotemark[2] }

\footnotetext[1]{ Dept. of Civil Engr.}
\footnotetext[2]{ Dept. of Appl. Math.}

%===========================================================


Instead of producing number "1" and "2" for the authors (M. Chen and 
M. Comeau), it gives special symbols such as "*" and "+" (\dag). 

The strang thing is that the numbers do get right for the bottom note.

Thanx in advance.

/ming
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: Schoepf@sc.ZIB-Berlin.de (Rainer Schoepf)
Subject: Re: verb|trouble| using verbatim.sty
Reply-To: Schoepf@sc.ZIB-Berlin.de
Organization: Konrad-Zuse-Zentrum fuer Informationstechnik Berlin
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 09:21:38 GMT

In article <17ehqnINN1o0@agate.berkeley.edu> casterln@are.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Casterline) writes:

   Is this a bug in the verbatim.sty ( {v1.4i} {92/01/20} {91/12/18}),
   or am I missing something?  The following works fine:

   \documentstyle[verbatim]{article}
   \title{Nice Title}
   \author{me \\ {\tt casterln@are.berkeley.edu} }
   \begin{document}
   \maketitle
   Hello, \verb|everyone|.
   \end{document}

   But if I change the author line to use \verb:

	   \author{me \\ \verb|casterln@are.berkeley.edu| }

   I get a missing } error.  Indicating that the verb is not picking
   up the ending character.  I never know how much of the error message
   to send along, but here is what I'm seeing.  Any help appreciated.

You can't use \verb inside the argument of another command.
verbatim.sty cannot change this, as it comes from deep within TeX.
--

   Rainer Schoepf
   Konrad-Zuse-Zentrum                       ,,Ich mag es nicht, wenn
    fuer Informationstechnik Berlin            sich die Dinge so frueh
   Heilbronner Strasse 10                      am Morgen schon so
   W-1000 Berlin 31                            dynamisch entwickeln!''
   Federal Republic of Germany
   <Schoepf@sc.ZIB-Berlin.de> or <Schoepf@sc.ZIB-Berlin.dbp.de>
From: IFF291@DJUKFA11.BITNET (Stephan Petersen)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Alternatives to supertab.sty ?
Date: 26 Aug 92 11:09:01 GMT
 <CARLISLE.92Aug25173343@r8d.cs.man.ac.uk>
Organization: KFA  Forschungszentrum Juelich

In article <CARLISLE.92Aug25173343@r8d.cs.man.ac.uk>, carlisle@cs.man.ac.uk
(David Carlisle) says:
>
>I can not promise that you will have less problems, but you could try
>my longtable.sty.

Thanks for you reply, I'll definitely give it a try.

Stephan



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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: dvips - help please
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:20:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.115007.5434@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, medrh@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Richard Hockey) writes:
> I am trying to convert a dvi file I received into postscript. I have
> downloaded dvips for MSDOS but when I try to convert the file it says
> the fonts are not available with names like cmbx12 etc. I downloaded
> another piece of software called sbmf which is supposed to be able to
> create these fonts. Did this and created files with .pk and .tfm
> extensions and put them in the directories I thought they should be in.
> Ran dvips again this time it found the .tfm files but not the .pk files
> and created some sort of parameter file to create same from I don't know
> what and said "run mfjob dvips" . what is mfjob? and what do the
> parameters in the file mean they do not seem to be the same as those for

Speaking of dvips...I have compiled dvips 5.490 for OS/2 and MSDOS from 
the nice port posted on ftp-os2.nmsu.edu by Gyan P. Sinha (use his 
executables if you have OS/2 2.0). I could use a beta-tester, then I will
upload to ftp-os2.  If you wish to test the DOS/OS2 port of dvips 5.490, please
send a note to me.

Back to the original post: You should have a directory somewhere called "ps".
In this directory, the file config.ps tells dvips where to find things. Make
sure that dvips finds this file, and make sure that the file contains the
right directories for your setup. 

mfjob is part of Eberhard Mattes' excellent emTeX package (although sbTeX
and sbmf are also good choices). mfjob is a front-end to mf, and works nicely
with dvips.  For DOS machines, dvips usually creates a file to feed to mfjob,
and suggest that you "run mfjob", as you have described. On OS/2 machines, 
where more memory is available, dvips usually calls mfjob itself. Look
for a file called 'MakeTeXP.bat' in your tex directory. 

Get mfjob from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu in pub/os2/all/emtex/betatest/, if you intend
to use mfjob. If I recall correctly, you can use mfjob with sbmf.

email for more help--I've been brief. mf is not for the timid.
In summary: First make sure that dvips is configured correctly before you
look into this mf stuff.

--darrel hankerson hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
From: roegel@loria.fr (Roegel Denis)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: A macro for giving the current time of day.
Date: 23 Aug 92 23:28:08 GMT
Organization: CRIN (CNRS) Nancy - INRIA Lorraine

It seems to me that there were still three little mistakes in what sent
Duncan Farrow and Donald Arsenau:



\newcount\hour \newcount\minute
\def\now{\ifnum\time<60       %check to see if it's just after midnight
          12:\ifnum\time<10 0\fi\number\time am %and act accordingly.
         \else
            \ifnum\time>719\chardef\a=`p\else\chardef\a=`a\fi 
%%% backquotes here ------------------^  and -----------^

          \hour=\time
                          \minute=\time 
%%% that was forgotten ---^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

          \divide\hour by 60 %\hour is the result of an integer divide
          \ifnum\hour>12\advance\hour by -12\advance\minute by-720 \fi
          \number\hour:%
          \multiply\hour by 60 %Use is made of the integer divide here.
          \advance\minute by -\hour
          \ifnum\minute<10 0\fi\number\minute\a m\fi}

It works fine and it is so easy !

Denis (roegel@loria.fr)
From: pflynn@ccvax.ucd.ie (Peter Flynn, Official Muffin-sampler)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: TeX under SCO Xenix (386)
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:27:42 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

In TeXhax91.046, Pierre MacKay (coordinator for TeX-in-UNIX) said he held
out little hope that TeX would ever compile under SCO Xenix (due I think
he said to memory segmentation limits).

Has anyone ever got TeX running under Xenix on a 386? Is it worth it?

///Peter
From: megn714@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu (George Kontoravdis)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: how to include postscript in emtex latex?
Keywords: emtex, latex, postscript
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:52:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: chpc.1992Aug28.175226.10425
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC


   Does anyone know if I can insert postscript in emtex latex?
   If yes, how can this be done?

   Thanks,
   George Kontoravdis
   (megn714@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu)
From: kesich@acf3.NYU.EDU (John Kesich,321wwh,998-3047,)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: darker Courier?
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:37:00 GMT
Organization: New York University

I have a user who is TeXing a book containing programming examples in Pascal.
The examples are set in Courier with Courier-Bold for key words.  The problem
is that Courier is far too light, and we would like to darken it a bit.

My first thought is to create a darker Courier using afm2tfm with dvips,
but how to do this, and whether it can even be done is not clear to me.

I would, of course, welcome other solutions to the problem of creating
a darker Courier.

Thanks.
From: BORMANN@vm.cc.purdue.edu (Bill Bormann)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: IBM Pennant Systems survey
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:12:39 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

In article <199208281156.AA08401@claude.cs.umb.edu>
karl@claude.cs.umb.edu (Karl Berry) writes:
 
>
>Some of you may have seen the survey request from IBM,
>where they want us to send them documents.  I asked them
>what they would actually use the documents for.  After about
>a week, someone finally responded with what is below,
>telling me in effect that they won't tell me.
>
>I urge people not to cooperate with this survey.
>
>karl@cs.umb.edu
 
I received this survey and, after looking it over, floated it into
the trashcan. My impression: a vague request for information that was
going to be time-consuming to acquire and of no benefit to my
organization. My second impression was that this was the first survey
ever written by the author.
 
BTW, we run TeX on an IBM 3090-180E system.
 
Bill Bormann
 
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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: asnd@reg.triumf.ca (Donald Arseneau)
Subject: Re: reserving registers from within macros
Summary: How to reserve registers within macros.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: \new..., register, reserve, macro, definition, forbidden control seq.
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 11:13:00 GMT

In article <repasky.715398745@sun.bdc.ubc.ca>, repasky@bdc.ubc.ca (Dick Repasky) writes...
>I would like to write a macro that reserves registers and assigns them 
>names using pararmeters passed to the macro. For example, a call such
>as \doit{zork} would be expanded so that the result was \newinsert\bigzork.
>I've made the following attempt:
> 
>    \def\doit#1{\expandafter\newinsert\csname big#1\endcsname}
> 
>and I receive the error that \newinsert is a forbidden command sequence in
>a macro definition.  Does anyone have advice?

The problem is that \newinsert etc are defined "\outer".  There are two 
solutions:

1) redefine \newinsert the same way, but without the \outer.
   (The definition is short.  See plain.tex)

2) define \innernewinsert:
      \edef\innernewinsert{\noexpand\newinsert}
   The \noexpand hides the outerness.

Donald Arseneau        asnd@reg.triumf.ca
From: karl@cs.umb.edu (Karl Berry)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Web2c and subdirectory searching
Date: 27 Aug 92 00:50:26 GMT
	<TFB.92Aug13084631@helium.aisb.ed.ac.uk>
Reply-To: karl@cs.umb.edu
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston


    find takes about 2 secs to traverse the same tree, which is still
    pretty slow, but faster than TeX.

Is GNU find faster than TeX?  If so, something strange is going on,
because ...

    What I did find was that the code is incredibly bright about working
    out if a directory *has* subdirs -- it counts the links and assumes
    that if there are only 2 then it hasn't.

... I stole this trick (fortunately not patented yet, at least to my
knowledge) from GNU find.  A user (I forgot who, unfortunately) posted
the fix to bug-gnu-utils.

I suggest running tex under gdb (or some debugger), and seeing if in
fact the ``incredibly bright'' code is actually working.  As you
describe your setup, the only directories that should be readdir'd are
the top-level ones, which is only 4 or 5.  Obviously it is stat-ing all
the hundreds of input files.  The question is why.  If you have
any subdirectories at all, the link-counting trick fails, and all
directory entries must be stat-d.

You also suggest one-level subdirectory searching:

    If there is in fact no way to get it usable, then a compromise scheme
    might be to have single-level subdir searching.  

This is what I implemented first (before I came across the link-counting
trick); it got released in 5.84, I think.  I don't see why this would be
any faster than the recursive case, though, if the directory hierarchy
is right for subdir searching.  (If it isn't, you'll probably lose
either way.)

You also suggest, as a final stopgap, having TeX etc. read directory
paths from a file.  I'd prefer not to have an additional configuration
file around for installers to have to think about.

I'm not sure if I made any significant changes to the path searching
code after I released 5.851c.  But you might want to grab dvipsk.tar.Z
or xdvik.tar.Z and copy the common files into web2c's lib/ directory,
just in case.

By the way, messages like this about web2c are usually best directed at
me via mail (copy to the list as well if you want).  It was purely
fortuitous that I happened to be reading news for a little while before
your article expired.

Thanks for the note.
--
karl@cs.umb.edu
Member of the League for Programming Freedom---write to league@prep.ai.mit.edu.
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