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From: paladin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jason Gische)
Subject: Re: DAVID CONE TO BLUE JAYS
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 21:51:18 GMT

In article <5307@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> psg+@pitt.edu (Paul S Galvanek) writes:
>someone give that hindlick thingy to Cito he's choking!
                  ^^^^^^^^
I suppose you mean Hiemlich?
>
>David Cone's pathetic debut, Kevin Mitchell's poor year and Gary Shefield's
>sudden hitting prowes has brought an question to mind.  Has there been any 
>National League player that's been able to make the transition to the American 
>League with any degree of success?  In the last few years that is.   
>
>Although I'm sure there are numerous other reason but with a guy like Sheffield
>who had been anything but a star in the AL suddenly rising to the top of the
>NL in offense and the big stars like Mitchell and Cone getting wasted it would
>appear on the surface that the AL organizations are landing the more talented
>players these days.  I can't think of a single player in recent memory that has
>gone from being a NL star to the AL and been able to carry over his success.
>
>humm?
>
>Paul
>-- 
>Paul S. Galvanek |"I watched that giant masquerade ball at the Madison Square
>(psg+@pitt.edu)  | Garden - where 20,000 radicals and liberals came dressed
>		 | up as moderates and centrists - in the greatest single 
>Arlen Specter '92| exhibition of cross-dressing in American political history"  

Whoa!  Hold on there.  You are taking three very extreme examples to prove 
your point.   Cone has had a tired arm for the poast month.  His last five 
starts with the Mets were mediocre.  That's a product of all the pitches he'd
been throwing this year.  Don't call him an AL bust yet.
Sheffield had a terrible relationship with the Brewers.  You can't take just any
bench player from an Al team and have them be the NL triple crown winner the
next season.
Mitchell is a head case.  Although his is definitely the most valid of these
three cases.  I can't believe how poorly he has done this season.  Give him 
another year before he is ranked asted in the AL.
As for NL stars continuing to shine in the AL, how about Roberto Alomar? 
Beyond that, Gregg Jefferies, Keith Miller and Rick Aguilera have all been more
successfull in the AL then they were in the NL.  And young stars Sandy Alomar, 
Kenny Lofton, and Carlos Baerga all began in the NL.
I don't think any AL teams will be worried about Bonds' ability to hit AL
pitching when they begin to pursue him.
-Jason Gische
have the Mets really won 7 in a row?  pinch me.
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From: st1ge@Rosie.UH.EDU (Edward Hui)
Subject: Re: What is slugging percentage?
Reply-To: st1ge@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 06:02:19 GMT

In article <2062@deadmin.ucsd.edu>, napier@cs.ucsd.edu (Jim Napier) writes:
>
>Would someone fill in an ignorant casual fan as to exactly what the slugging
>percentage is? Thanks.
>-- 
>Jim Napier
>Systems Administration
>Applied Mechanics & Engineering Sciences Dept.
>UC San Diego
>jnapier@ucsd.edu
>Jim Napier
>Systems Administration
>Applied Mechanics & Engineering Sciences Dept.
>UC San Diego


To calculate slugging pct:

    (1*singles+2*doubles+3*triples+4*HRs)/# of AB

     The more extra-base hits, the higher the SLG.

Edward Hui
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From: yajima@nttcom.ntt.jp (YAJIMA Hiroshi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball,soc.culture.japan,fj.rec.baseball
Subject: Japan Central League(games on Sunday August 23)
Date: 24 Aug 92 00:50:22 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: NTT Network Information Systems Labs. Musashino, Tokyo

Japan Central League(games on Sunday August 23)

Hanshin Tigers 1, Yomiuri Giants 0
 Yasuhito Shimao combined with Tatsuhiro Yuminaga to pick up his first win 
since 1989, pitching the Hanshin Tigers to a 1-0 shutout win over the Yomiuri
Giants which I hate Sunday night in a Central League game at the Tokyo Dome.
 Jim Paciorek provided all the punch Hanshin needed, singling in a run off
Yomiuri starter Hiroaki Hirota in the top of the first.
 Shimao, in his first ever start against the Giants, gave up three hits in
6 1/3 innings. Yuminaga allowed one hit over the remainder to pick up his third
save of the season.

Yakult Swallows 4, Hiroshima Carp 1
 Hikaru Takano winged a two-hitter over the distance as league-leading Yakult
defeated Hiroshima at Hiroshima Stadium.
 In the top of the second, with two outs and runners at the corners, Johnny
Paredes singled in a run to open the scoring, Shinji Hata kept up the attack 
in the fourth, nailing a two-run homer off Hiroshima starter and loser Manabu
Kitabeppu.
 Jack Howell added an insurance run with a solo homer, his 21th clout of the
season, in the top of the ninth.
 Takano lost his shutout bid to a Marty Brown homer, but held on for his 
seventh victory.

 Taiyo Whales 4, Chunichi Dragons 2
 Kosaku Akimoto belted a game-tying solo homer, and Larry Sheets teamed up
with R.J. Reynold for back-to-back RBI singles as Taiyo scored four runs in
the seventh to rally past Chunichi.


Japan Cenral League Standing(Through Sunday's games)

                          W   L   T   Pct.   GB
Yakult Swallows          54  40   0   .574   --
Hanshin Tigers           53  46   1   .535   3.5
Yomiuri Giants           53  48   0   .525   4.5
Hiroshima Carp           49  47   0   .510   6.0
Taiyo Whales             44  56   1   .440  13.0
Chunichi Dragons         41  57   0   .418  15.0
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                         Tokyo, 180 Japan,  E-MAIL: yajima@nttcom.ntt.jp
                         TEL: +81 422-59-4256	 FAX: +81 422-59-4254

                         
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From: sfh@po.CWRU.Edu (Steven F. Hubbard)
Subject: Re: Boggs Toronto bound?
Reply-To: sfh@po.CWRU.Edu (Steven F. Hubbard)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 19:52:47 GMT


In a previous article, zelek@remus.rutgers.edu (Grey Wolf) says:

>August 11th, Boggs is hitting around .236 AT Fenway and .307 on the road.
>Know something?  Boggs usually hit around .305-.310 on the road and .340-.360
>at Fenway.  Usually.  Know why the change?  The 500 club addition built onto
>Fenway behind home plate two seasons ago.  
>

   This makes no sense to me.  Why does an addition to the stadium cause Boggs
to hit a hundred points lower than he used to?  Did it affect him last season?

SfH

-- 
Steven F. Hubbard                 **  That restaurant is so crowded that 
Case Western Reserve University   **    nobody goes there anymore. 
Department of Physics             ** 
Cleveland, OH 44106               **                   Yogi Berra
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From: josh@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (joshua.h.rosenbluth)
Subject: Winter Meetings
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 13:49:35 GMT

When and where are the winter meetings?

Please reply by email and thanks in advance.

Josh Rosenbluth (attmail!jrosenbluth)
From: dpassage@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU (David Paschich)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Cy Young Update
Date: 25 Aug 92 14:52:38
Organization: Organization?  Who cares?  You just gotta say "Go Bears!"
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In-reply-to: acw@sbmsg1.UUCP's message of 25 Aug 92 14:41:10 GMT

Some anyonymous people in lost references write:

   >>  Of course pitchers are eligible for Golden Gloves, too. 
   >
   >Technically, they're not eligible.  The Golden Gloves award is issued to
   >amateur boxers, not professional baseball players.

In article <396@sbmsg1.UUCP> acw@sbmsg1.UUCP (Alvin White) writes:

   Can't professional baseball players be amateur boxers too?

Sure.  Just look at Rob Dibble.

David Paschich
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Subject: Re: J. Gonzales All-time HR King
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:02:54 GMT
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <10010680@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> jrp@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John Pessetto) writes:
>
>   I made some guesses about how Juan Gonzalez would finish this season and 
>feed this year and his previous years back into the Brock2 program written by
>David Grabiner.  

Bill James.  

>According to this, he should pass Babe Ruth as the all-time
>homerun hitter.  

Looks like his 761 will even pass Aaron.

>Also, it looks like he has a chance to pass Maris in the 
>single season homerun record( Of course this happens when he's 27 years old).
>Anyway, it was interesting to look at.
>
>  YEAR     G    AB     R     H    2B    3B    HR   RBI    BB   AVG
>TOTALS  2869  9976  1647  2529   492    29   761  2032   874 0.254

You left out 1989 --
   1989	   24    60     6     9     3     0     1     7     6 0.150

This might change the stats a bit.

Also, I think Brock2 works better for Lou Brock types rather than power
hitters, but I'll defer that opinion to someone who's worked more with it.

Finally, it might improve the predictions a little to include JG's AAA MLE
stats from 1990, because he seems to have played a little over his head
that month in the majors.

But otherwise, fascinating.  Is Juan really only 22?
-- 
           .........................................................
          ted frank | thf2@midway.uchicago.edu | standard disclaimers
         the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
         here i sit looking for a warming smile in a house of cold wit
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From: mard@quads.uchicago.edu (Adrian N. Marden)
Subject: Re: The Ack-man Lives!
Reply-To: mard@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:27:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.152444.17964@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> paula@koufax.cv.hp.com (Paul Andresen) writes:
>
>Recently, whilst perusing rec.arts.tv, I came across the following in a post:
>
>>	Any more questions? 
>>
>>	Jim Acker
>>	jgacker@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov
>
>It looks like our favorite net.whipping.boy does rocket science as well :-)
						  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
       						  Understatement!!!
-- 
*	Adrian "Nick" Marden  	    *	"The A's have Dennis Eckersley-	      *
*	mard@midway.uchicago.edu    *	he doesn't blow anybody!"	      *
*	home:(312)-684-1913	    *			-Steve Stone	      *
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From: sieferme@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: GRUB
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:32:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Aug28.022951.3029@lclark.edu> larryw@sun.lclark.edu (Larry Westdahl) writes:
>
>Here is a question that came to me while I was drifting in and out of 
>sleep last night.  It is a silly question, more or less, but now that I
>have thought of it, it has bothered me greatly!  Here goes:
>
>When professional teams are on the road, does the organization provide
>grub for the team?  Or, do they assume that since they pay those guys
>so much each year, they can damn well get their own food!
>
>Just wondering. . .
>
>- Lawrence  (He who is most curious)

Funny you should ask.  A few days ago, I heard an interview with
the Mariners visiting team clubhouse person.  He said that one
of his duties is to cook a post-game dinner for the visiting
team.  I assume that the M's pay for it.

The person was also asked which teams were his most and least
favorite.  After trying to diplomatically dodge the question,
he said that he liked the Tigers because they are so
friendly and easy-going.  He did not particularly like the
A's because they seemed cold and highly focused.

Hmmm ... let me check my standings ... A's ... Tigers ... hmmm .


-- 
| Eric Sieferman            |   Edgar Martinez for MVP!              |
| U. of W., M.C.I.S.        |   Dave Fleming for Rookie of the Year! |
| sieferme@u.washington.edu |   Bill Plummer for ... uh ... er ...   |
From: chuq@gallant.apple.com (Chuq Von Rospach)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Deliberate loss?
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:54:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: I is a writur

Just as a reminder, a 'deliberate loss' is considered a fixed game, and if
the league felt that a team deliberately threw a game, there would be lots
of repercussions, possible fines, suspensions, whatever. Just ask the Black
Sox.

-- 
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  chuq@apple.com | GEnie: MAC.BIGOT | ALink:CHUQ =+= Editor, OtherRealms

    I believe there should be a constitutional amendment outlawing the
From: dougm@hal.com (Doug Moran)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Ugliest Man in Baseball??
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:49:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: hal.1887irINN1j9
Reply-To: dougm@hal.com (Doug Moran)
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In-reply-to: gt4534b@prism.gatech.EDU (JARRIO,MARTIN MICHAEL)

In article <67482@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt4534b@prism (JARRIO,MARTIN MICHAEL) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.221536.13661@menudo.uh.edu> chee1l5@jetson.uh.edu (Sam Lane) writes:
>>Call it Willie McGee and Chris Sabo in a photo finish.
>
>No, no, no. I'm afraid you got it all wrong on this point:
>
>Chis Sabo is not ugly, he's just *goofy* looking.

I believe it was Dr. Dave who said, "Chris Sabo looks like the boy from
next door.  Willie McGee looks like the boy from Pluto."

There are plenty of goofy looking players -- Walt Weiss, Mark McGwire
(before the beard), Jose Uribe, Juan Berenger (who looks like he's
storing basketballs under his uniform shirt), John Kruk (what *is* it
with that nose, anyway?), Jack Clark (who clearly thinks that one
eyebrow is sufficient), Will Clark -- but few are actually *ugly*.

My favorite players are the ones who look like they could rip your head
off, but sound as if they're inhaling Helium.  Dave Stuart is the
classic example.
-- 
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 {...}!hal.com!dougm  | forcing them to pay attention or end the meeting by
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From: rstimets@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (robert and stimets)
Subject: Re: Managing in the AL
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 00:22:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug22.042305.21911@cs.cornell.edu> tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes:
>
>In article <1992Aug21.163756.14867@cis.ohio-state.edu> miked@cis.ohio-state.edu (Michael Davey) writes:
>>My friend
>>commented that managing doesn`t really matter that much in the AL due
>>to the DH (obviously).
>
>AL managers have one *big* decision to make that NL managers don't.
>When do you pull your star pitcher and go to the bullpen in a close
>game?  In the NL, almost all pitching switches are dictated by
>situation (score, inning, and when the pitcher comes to bat).  In the
>AL, the manager has to make the decision based solely on the current
>effectiveness of the pitcher.  That's a harder decision, IMHO.  It's
>much easier to simply pull the pitcher the first time he comes to bat
>after he reaches the 100 pitch limit.
>
>>However, I do think the DH is an abomination and
>>AL baseball not as interesting as the NL brand.
>
>I find the NL boring because I don't know the players as well, and for
>the most part I don't care who wins the game.  I also don't enjoy
>watching games played on astroturf, and most NL games are played on
>that green cement stuff.
>
>Cheers,
>-Valentine



TED, TED, TED!
I've never had the resolve to contradict one of your posts but this one
deserves some attention:

      Knowing when to pull a pitcher goes well beyond whether he's batting
      or not.  A pitcher who's been dominating and is at least competent with the 
      bat can and probably would stay in the game to BUNT a runner over:
      a talent that is sorely missed in the AL.
      Secondly, in a tight game the NL manager has to consider pitcher 
      effectiveness FIRST when deciding to leave him in when the opposing team
      is at bat.  He always must consider the batting order in order to make
      double-switches, and score/inning/pitcher to the plate all come into
      play in less close games or when his team is batting.
      Third:  it's abundantly clear you only follow the Red Sox and their opponents
       but that's all right (I follow the Reds and theirs).  To make mention
       of this, though in an AL(DL)/NL(Turf) argument is specious at best.



"Greg Swindell:  Pitching for a better tomorrow!!"

RStimets
From: ccastmm@prism.gatech.EDU (Mike Marler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Neon Deion Injured?
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:34:24 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

|> frisbee@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (frisbee) writes:
|
|> I heard Deion Sanders was injured badly last night. What happened?

Jerry Glanville put a hex on him for not reporting to the Falcons! 8)
-- 

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Internet: ccastmm@prism.gatech.edu |  my next set of thrills..." -somebody
Disclaimer: These views are not and should not be viewed as those of OIT.
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From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: CY, MVP, ROY
Keywords: eat more moose
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:00:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.144544.6526@osf.org> ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum) writes:
>In article <1992Aug29.031801.5413@odin.corp.sgi.com>, dickh@tribe.esd.sgi.com (Dick Harkness) writes:
>|> In article <1992Aug28.231243.8781@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, mjw@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Michael Wolverton) writes:
>|> |
>|> |> >AL MVP
>|> |> >I need suggestions here.  I'm personally gonna stick with Eck.
>|> |> >McGwire was falling off, then got hurt.

>   Indeed, the voters of this award favor players on teams in the peanant hunt,
>   as they figure that other players can't have much impact on their teams
>   if they're not even in the hunt.

>|> |> As much of a god as he is on the net, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned
>|> |> Frank Thomas.  Eck is a decent choice too, I think.

>  Frank isn't recognized by the writers - who figure anyone who walks that
>  much must be hurting his team by not hitting HR's instead!!

Actually, I believe the writers would recognize him if his team was in the
pennant chase, a point you made just above.

> Hey - I didn't say they were smart! 

Nor do you appear to pay much attention to the voting. Schmidt, Williams,
Gehrig, Ruth, Foxx, Greenberg, Allen, Killebrew, R Henderson, Murphy, Morgan,
Mays, etc, are all examples of people who do/did well in the MVP voting and
had a tendency to get a lot of walks. Doesn't appear to be any such 
"high BB total - no MVP recognition" connection. I believe Bonds also did
all right in both departments, and Boggs, while he never won an award, is
usually among the top vote-getters. See also Yaz, McCovey, Bench, Murray, etc.

See Bill James' Historical Abstract for a fairly good analysis of MVP voting
(and why he almost always agrees with the way the vote goes).

Mike
-- 
Disclaimer - I'm only doing what the little voices tell me to do.
From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: DAVID CONE TO BLUE JAYS
Date: 28 Aug 92 12:20:34 GMT
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853

In article <1992Aug27.194230.11530@midway.uchicago.edu> mard@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>	What about Todd Hundley? Isn't he the Mets' catcher of the future?
>What happened?

Todd Hundley has yet to show he can hit in the majors.  Bill James
projected a .650 OPS for him, but he has only managed a .589 OPS.
That's *miserable*, even for a catcher.  They supposedly liked his
defense, but runners run wild over him.  IMHO, Sprague would be a
definite improvement.  Let Hundley be the backup until he learns to
hit.  Or Sprague could play 3B.  Or, for all we know, it might be
somebody entirely different as the PTBNL.

Cheers,
-Valentine
-- 
Clemens may not win his 4th CY, but he still rules!	tedward@cs.cornell.edu
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From: zurawski@cbnewse.cb.att.com (lawrence.w.zurawski)
Subject: Re: Why aren't there more baseball player actors?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:24:19 GMT
Summary: one more

One more...

	John Berardino of General Hospital.

Larry Zurawski
zurawski@ihlpm.att.com

Organization: Senior, IM - MCS/CIT Track, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:59:46 -0400 
From: Pravin Devineni Ratnam <pr0i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Fighting & Baldwin(pens)

I made a BIG mistake. This message should have been posted to the hockey bboard
instead. The two bboards are right next to each other on my screen. 
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From: townsend@ (Paul Townsend)
Subject: Re: blue jays
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 15:21:16 GMT

In article <199209020356.AA08111@rata.vuw.ac.nz>, ellen@MATAI.VUW.AC.NZ writes:
|> can anyone tell me whether the blue jays have still to play baltimore and
|> if so how many games?
|> Simon France
|> Faculty of Law
|> PO Box 600
|> Wellington, NZ
|> ellen@matai.vuw.ac.nz
|> 

The Jays play Baltimore (in Baltimore) September 22, 23 and 24.

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From: spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: DAVID CONE TO BLUE JAYS
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:25:36 GMT
Organization: Boo!

In <1992Aug28.122034.2486@cs.cornell.edu> tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes:

>In article <1992Aug27.194230.11530@midway.uchicago.edu> mard@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>
>>	What about Todd Hundley? Isn't he the Mets' catcher of the future?
>>What happened?

>Todd Hundley has yet to show he can hit in the majors.  Bill James
>projected a .650 OPS for him, but he has only managed a .589 OPS.
>That's *miserable*, even for a catcher.  They supposedly liked his
>defense, but runners run wild over him.  IMHO, Sprague would be a
>definite improvement.  Let Hundley be the backup until he learns to
>hit.  Or Sprague could play 3B.  Or, for all we know, it might be
>somebody entirely different as the PTBNL.

Well, as a number of people have mentioned, the PTBNL seems to be Ryan
Thompson, an extremely mediocre outfield prospect.

As far as the Mets catching situation, no, Hundley didn't hit very well
this year.  But Hundley has shown some signs in the past of being a
decent hitter (for a catcher), and he's only 23, so he has several years
left during which he can be expected to improve his hitting.  I see no
reason to give up on Hundley now.

Also, Brook Fordyce has been having an pretty good year at AA          
Binghampton, and the Mets view him as a possible replacement if Hundley
doesn't work out.

Greg 
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