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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty-kun)
Subject: Re: Disturbing Cartoons
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:34:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.210653.27472@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>, daly@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Sean Daly) writes:
> 
> Another cartoon I noticed started out with a
> Christmas-type atmosphere. A mother rabbit was
> tucking in her children and they wanted to know
> what "Good Will To Men" meant. The mother explained
> that men were a horrible,warlike,destructive,etc.
> race that had wiped itself out in a holocaust. As
> she narrated the story, the quality of the cartoon
> most definitely changed to a holocaust, Pink Floyd
> The Wall, gothic representation of a war. What struck
> me most was the contrast in animation styles, and the
> extremely realistic movements of the soldiers(as if real
> war scenes had been traced) 

They were.  It's known as rotoscoping.

> The cartoon ended with the basic animation style
> with the rabbits, but it was sort of disturbing.

Sort of?  Heck, we see the last two humans killing off each other!
Hardly the kind of thing you see in an American cartoon nowadays.
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From: cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  8823239)
Subject: Re: Looking for "The Cat Came Back"
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:06:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.170950.7629@cco.caltech.edu> tll@cco.caltech.edu (Tal Lewis Lancaster) writes:
>I am looking for an animation short called, "The Cat Came Back".  Anybody
>know where I could find a copy of it?
>
It was produced by the National Film Board of Canada and is hilarious.
Unfortunately I do not have their address nearby. Perhaps somebody else
may know. 

Hope this helped a bit.  

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From: chedberg@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Re: Transformers T.V. Series History
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:06:46 GMT

 I'd never heard much about the Japanese stories! They sound really cool. I
didn't know they went on to do so much with the series. Is there a source where
one could obtain the japanese episodes? Bootlegs, maybe?
						-Chris Hedberg
From: slf@netcom.com (Sharon Fisher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Disturbing Cartoons
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:35:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

palomb@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Anthony Palombella) writes:

>daly@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Sean Daly) writes:

>>I am looking for information about two
>>cartoons I saw recently.

>>Another cartoon I noticed started out with a
>>Christmas-type atmosphere. A mother rabbit was
>>tucking in her children and they wanted to know
>>what "Good Will To Men" meant. The mother explained
>>that men were a horrible,warlike,destructive,etc.
>>race that had wiped itself out in a holocaust. As
>>she narrated the story, the quality of the cartoon
>>most definitely changed to a holocaust, Pink Floyd
>>The Wall, gothic representation of a war. What struck
>>me most was the contrast in animation styles, and the
>>extremely realistic movements of the soldiers(as if real
>>war scenes had been traced) 

>>The cartoon ended with the basic animation style
>>with the rabbits, but it was sort of disturbing.

>	This one's from MGM, called, I think, _Good Will To Men_.  

Peace on Earth.  I believe it came out in 1940, and won an Academy Award.

It's
>directed by Harman and Ising, or maybe just one of them.  I remember it
>with squirrels instead of rabbits, but it's been several months since I've
>seen it.  It too is owned by Ted, and pops up on TBS and TNT every now and
>then.  I've never noticed this one on video either.  Most Harman/Ising
>'toons, IMHO, are too cutesy for my taste, but this one was definitely
>disturbingly different.  Hope this helps.
From: vanover@bcsaic.boeing.com (Jann VanOver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Disturbing Cartoons
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:07:13 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services AI Center, Seattle

In article <srh3.714363783@Ra.MsState.Edu> srh3@Ra.MsState.Edu (Steven R. Hollis) writes:
>I remember it as a granpa rabbit though telling his grandkids what happened 
>to the last humans
>
>Steve
>

Nope, they were definitely squirrels.  And, as one poster already
mentioned, it was an MGM cartoon, of the Harmen-Ising production team,
and it was called "Peace on Earth"

I always noticed how they took any mention of religion out of the
song "Hark the Herald" (Angels Sing) and replaced the main chorus with
something like "We will sing, and sing again;  Peace on Earth, goodwill
to men."

Not that I mind - I'm an american Buddhist who still celebrates
christmas.

Jann E VanOver
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From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago)
Subject: Re: PIXAR's "Knick knack" in 3D?
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 08:04:28 GMT

In article <vw0mh5j.mspace@netcom.com> mspace@netcom.com (Brian Hall) writes:
>fontana@cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Fontana) writes:
>>Apparently, PIXAR's 1989 film "Knick knack" was produced in 3D (using the
>>polarization system, I presume).  Has anyone actually seen it in 3D?

   Everyone who could get tickets to the "Electronic Theatre" at the
1990 Siggraph conference in Boston. The entire last 30 minutes of the
show was 3D. It probably looked neat...to those folks who don't wear
(real) glasses.

                              Chris Williams
                                 katefans@chinet.chi.il.us
From: scott@nv10.uswnvg.com (Scott Eckelman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: QUESTION: cartoon character??
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:30:15 GMT
Organization: US West NewVector, Inc., Bellevue, WA

In article <3968@moscom.UUCP> dgm@moscom.UUCP (David G. Modl) writes:
>
>I have been searching for the name of a cartoon character from back in the
>60's and 70's.  The character is known to say:
>
>	"Help me Mr. Wizard!!!!!!"
>
>whenever he encounters trouble.  The troubles he encounters stem from pleading
>with 'Mr. Wizard' to send the bored character back in time to an
>era when 'life' *is* more exciting.  'Mr, Wizard' always seems to reluctantly
>comply, then bails him out when called to do so.
>
>Thanks,
>Dave Modl

Well, the character was a turtle (not sure of the name. Tommy?).  The
wizard always brought him back with his wand and the incantation:

    "Twizzle, twazzle, twuzzle, twome.
    Time for this one to come home."

I'm pretty sure I saw these cartoons on Cpt. Kangaroo in the early 60's.
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From: meiboy@tsoft.sf-bay.org (MeiBoy of UCU)
Subject: Re: Transformers T.V. Series History
Organization: The TeleSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 7958
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:30:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.170830.23546@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan) writes:
>
>The Headmasters and Supergod MAsterforce have been dubbed in English for
>the Hong Kong/Malaysia/Singapore markets.  Nothing official has been said, 
>but rumors hold they it will(transformers) return to the air in 1993.
>
Could it be for real, the Transformers back on the air
.  Would it be back on the air in the U.S. or just in the 
Hong Kong/Malaysia/Singapore/Japan markets?
Would it be new episodes or reruns of the 5 series that you talked about.
And if the rumors are just that, where can we obtain the
episodes not shown in the US?
From: yoshio@pain.la.ca.us (Yoshio Nakamura)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Animation stores
Keywords: cel serigraph sale
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 92 18:16:33 PDT
Reply-To: yoshio@pain.la.ca.us
Organization: Public Access Info Network  (818/776-1447)

Hi!  I've been to three stores that sell animation related items,
and thought that others might want to know about them.  They are
in the Los Angeles area.
 
1.  Vintage Animation Gallery
    1404 Third Street Promenade, Santa Monica, CA  90401
    (310) 393-TOON
 
    "Specializing in original animation art from the 40's, 50's,
    & 60's"
 
    A small store, but filled with cels displayed on the wall.
    It has Disney cels, and pencil artwork, and cels from 
    commercials (often cereals), and a monitor showing animation
    Lots of Disney stuff, most cels around $300.
 
2.  Warner Bros. Studio Store
    Beverly Center  (mall)
    8500 Beverly Blvd. at La Cienega Blvd.
    Los Angeles, CA  90048
    (310) 289-7953
 
    Lots of sweatshirts, serigraphs, cels, even movie stars from
    the 30's, 40's, etc.  Even has serigraphs and production cels
    from the Tiny Toon Adventures.  3x3 set of monitors, acting as
    one set or 9, showing animation and apparently music videos.
 
3.  Name That Toon
    8483 Melrose Ave., West Hollywood, CA  90069
    (213) 653-5633  fax (213) 653-5634
 
    Near Melrose and La Cienega Blvd, walking distance from the
    Beverly Center, just opened a few weeks ago.
 
    This place is great!  Has the original sets from the
    California Raisins (one is $12,000!!) and from Gumby and
    Pokey (these not even behind plexiglass, no price listed)
    Four monitors in the rooms, showing computer animation from
    Metrolight Studios, PDI (Pacific Data Images), and
    Rhythm and Hues, don't know the 4th company.  Next to the
    monitors for Metrolight and R&H, are paper sketches/storyboards,
    and two show behind the scenes look.  Innards of animatronic
    creatures are there, one looks like it's from Ghostbusters,
    another the horse/rider used in Disney's Wild Hearts Can't
    Be Broken.  Costumes for sale, originals from Battlestar
    Galactica, Star Trek:TNG.  Lots of cels, not as many
    Disney ones as Vintage Animation Gallery.  This place
    is a must see!  Friendly people there, too!
 
 Anyone know what happened to the "Animation Station" stores?
 Have they all closed?
 
-yoshio        yoshio@pain.la.ca.us


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From: gross@rtsg.mot.com (Don Gross)
Subject: Re: QUESTION: cartoon character??
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:27:40 GMT

ndj20710@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nathan D. Johnson) writes:

>dgm@moscom.UUCP (David G. Modl) writes:
>>I have been searching for the name of a cartoon character from back in the
>>60's and 70's.  The character is known to say:

>>	"Help me Mr. Wizard!!!!!!"

>>whenever he encounters trouble.  The troubles he encounters stem from pleading
>>with 'Mr. Wizard' to send the bored character back in time to an
>>era when 'life' *is* more exciting.  'Mr, Wizard' always seems to reluctantly
>>comply, then bails him out when called to do so.
>I remember the show but not the characters name. But another clue for those
>of you that almost remember, The character was always wanting to be something
>else or something exciting or 'important' and Mr. Wizard would grant his wish.
>After bailing himn out of trouble, Mr. Wizard would say
>	"Be what you is, not what you is not.
>	 Them that does this is the happiest lot."
>or some resonable facsimile of the above. also, I thinlk one of the characters
>was a turtle.
>-Nate

His name was Tooter (or was is Tutor?) the Turtle. I don't think he 
was a time traveller. He just tried out lots of jobs: fireman, farmer,
etc.

"Drizzle druzzle drazzle drone,
Time for this one to come home."

Don Gross   gross@rtsg.mot.com
From: derrick@cs.athabascau.ca (Derrick Rowlandson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: tiny Toon cards (+SNL)
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:06:17 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Athabasca University


Hope it's okay to ask about this here.....

Anyone wanna trade Tiny Toon cards? I need #14, 46, 60, and will trade 4-5
to one. Also I need to do some trading to complete my Saturday Night Live card
set.

thanks

Derrick
From: scott@nv10.uswnvg.com (Scott Eckelman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: QUESTION: cartoon character??
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:34:58 GMT
Organization: US West NewVector, Inc., Bellevue, WA

In article <2616@uswnvg.uswnvg.com> scott@nv10.uswnvg.com (Scott Eckelman) writes:
>In article <3968@moscom.UUCP> dgm@moscom.UUCP (David G. Modl) writes:
>>
>>I have been searching for the name of a cartoon character from back in the
>>60's and 70's.  The character is known to say:
>>
>>	"Help me Mr. Wizard!!!!!!"
>>
>>whenever he encounters trouble.  The troubles he encounters stem from pleading
>>with 'Mr. Wizard' to send the bored character back in time to an
>>era when 'life' *is* more exciting.  'Mr, Wizard' always seems to reluctantly
>>comply, then bails him out when called to do so.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Dave Modl
>
>Well, the character was a turtle (not sure of the name. Tommy?).  The
>wizard always brought him back with his wand and the incantation:
>
>    "Twizzle, twazzle, twuzzle, twome.
>    Time for this one to come home."
>
>I'm pretty sure I saw these cartoons on Cpt. Kangaroo in the early 60's.

Just remembered, the character's name was Tudor Turtle.  Also, the
wizard (who lived in a tree)  always ended the cartoon with a little
homily about being who you are, and not trying to be somebody else.


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From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: ATTENTION: New NickToons animation coming
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 10:29:10 GMT


While the press has been FULL of articles concerning Ren and Stimpy's new
episodes (Sat, 8/15/92, 9pm EDT, Nick), there has been little press on
the fact that new episodes of Doug and Rugrats are also starting this 
weekend.  TV Guide lists the fact quite promently, so now it is time to
run out and buy some more blank tapes - NickToons are BACK!  Doug and
Rugrats episodes start Sunday morning; 10am for Doug, 10:30am for Rugrats
and 11am is a listing for Ren and Stimpy.  HOWEVER, rumor has it that 
Sunday morning's episodes will continue to be season 1.

Thanks!
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From: ortega@cactus.org (Paul Ortega)
Subject: Re: DOES ANYONE HAVE THESE ON TAPE!?!?!?
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 03:15:33 GMT

In article <4901@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> damian+@pitt.edu (Liquid Cooled Spherical Imaging) writes:
>Does anyone out there have episodes of TARZAN and/or BLACKSTAR on tape.
>These cartoons truly enhanced my childhood (esp. BLACKSTAR)!  If you
>have any on tape, please e-mail me or post.
>
>Also, does anyone recall the name of the cartoon that concerned these
>mechanical/living robot machines that were driven by humans and could
>transfer parts from one another??  It was normally shown during one
>of those Sunday 3-in-1 cartoons along with JEM, BIGFOOT MONSTER TRUCKS
>and the INHUMANOIDS.  Also, they mads toys out of them.  It was the 
>good humans vs the bad humans.  The bad guys were always trying to steal
>parts fromthe good guys....anybody know this stuff?????

I think the series you are thinking of was called ROBOTIX.
Was there a bishop chess piece-shaped robot called Compucore
in it?

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From: vgriscep@wam.umd.edu (VGR (Craig Pell))
Subject: Oh brother....
Originator: vgriscep@rac2.wam.umd.edu
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 04:17:11 GMT

Here we go again.  Why don't those idiots give up?

I'm talking about the nameless masses of boobs who make utter loser
cartoons.  What an insult to the art.

This year, it's going to be "Conan the Adventurer."  I saw an ad for it
on Fox.  Well, let's see.  Conan is going to slice people like
fresh bread?  I don't think so.  Conan is going to put his fist through
people's rib cages?  Hardly.  Conan is going to let his enemies die instead
of saving them because everyone deserves to live even if they've destroyed
entire civilizations?  Ha.
    Well what the hell is Conan going to do?  What kind of jackass conceived
this cartoon?  I'm sorry, but I can smell a rehash of the idiocy that
permeated the "Rambo" cartoon a mile away.  Everyone will have swords,
but no one will get hurt.  And the commercial itself led me to believe
that it will be Hanna-Barbera animation.  Yeesh.  As if it didn't have enough
handicaps.
    I'm not saying that I have a need for a cartoon full of bloody massacres
shown opposite Sesame Street every weekday afternoon.  But I'm saying if you
want to make a cartoon full of adventure and action, make it a semi-comedy or
something.  Why insult the art and the viewers?
    This is true filler, for those "pesky" morning time slots.
    Of course, I could be completely wrong.  Maybe the show has a quality of
which I am unaware.  Maybe it will be excellent.
    Or not.

    VGR

"The size of the brain is no measure of its capacity."   - Mr. Jonathan Frisby
From: perl@dwrsun4.UUCP (Robert Perlberg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: what are the names of the mice?
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:43:55 GMT
Organization: Dean Witter Reynolds Inc., New York

In article <1767@celia.UUCP>, doug@celia.UUCP (Doug Nichols) writes:
> In article <2801@perl-sun.dwrsun4.UUCP> perl@dwrsun4.UUCP (Robert Perlberg (yours truly)) writes:
> >In article <1992Jul27.231709.9154@odin.corp.sgi.com>, kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey) writes:
> >> "I hates meeces to pieces."  - Mr. Jinx
> >That quote would correctly be attributed to Punkin Puss of "Mush Mouse
> Bzzzzt!
> 
> Sorry, Bob! Wrong answer. That quote would actually be correctly
> attributed to none other than, as originally stated, Mr. Jinx.

PUBLIC APOLOGY.

You're right.  It's been so long I completely forgot who Mr. Jinx was.
I think I even have a Pixie and Dixie record lying around somewhere.

Robert Perlberg
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From: ECZ5ACK@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Andy Kohler)
Subject: Don't You Believe It (was Re: Tom & Jerry)
Reply-To: ecz5ack@mvs.oac.ucla.edu
Date: 17 Aug 92 08:20:59 PDT

>a giant kick .... KABOOM!  Nuclear holocaust.  A broken down radio
>cheerily intones, "Flash!  Scientists say the white mouse is now perfectly
>harmless!  The white mouse will *NOT* explode!"  Tom pokes his head out
>of the rubble and says in a sepulchral voice:  "DON'T YOU BEE-LIEEVE IT".
>
>Rich Drushel ** rfd@po.CWRU.edu *** Biology Ph.D. Student ** Cleveland FreeNet
>
I've seen that "Don't you believe it" bit used in several cartoons,
MGM and (I think) Warner Brothers.  Does anyone know what its
original source is (I assume a movie from that period)?
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From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: bakshi's new mighty m
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:21:02 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

AHK>Have any of the episodes to this show been released on video?

     As far as I know, none of them.
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From: vibrad@os2dce06
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Rock-a-Doodle
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:53:26 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

Just got Rock-a-Doodle last night on LaserDisc. I thought it was better
than some of Don Bluth's earlier stuff except for American Tale Goes West
and Secret of Nihm (sp?).  Don Bluth really needs to get better writers or 
start adapting stories from books for his movies.  The plot for Rock-a-Doodle
was 'ok'. The little kid in it who turned into the kitten about drove me nuts
though... That damn 'baby-talk' made me want to actually force my head into
the TV screen just to stop the pain.  The other characters were pretty good
though.  What does Don Bluth have with insisting that the main character
is either uninteresting or completely annoying.  The live-action/animation
mixture seemed quite poor (Disney's Song of the South did a much better job
at mixing the two).  Oh, well, those were just a couple of thoughts from the
top of my head after seeing this movie. (My wife actually thought it sucked
and likes the other Bluth movies better - I just dont understand women.)

Brad
From: king@acpub.duke.edu (King Rhoton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: QUESTION: cartoon character??
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:48:14 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.


From king Thu Aug 13 09:48:05 1992
To: /afs/acpub/users5/king/.article

I believe that the character you're fumbling for is Tyler the Turtle.  It's
definately some kind of Turtle.  In a recent car trip, I pulled a bunch of
tapes I made growing up (very low-tech--hold tape recorder up to TV--hey,
we had no VCR yet), and one of them had about 15 min of an episode on it!
This is the same seris in which the wizard always ends the show by moralizing,
"Be just what you is, not what you is not.  Folks what know this is the 
happiest lot."  I''l get that tape out the car and make sure about the name.
If you have any interest, I could even digitize the quote you adore --
"Help me, Mr. Wizard!"  Please include e-mail address if you want a sound
(I'm new to the newsgroups, and don't trust my posting ability yet).
King
king@acpub.duke.edu