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Subject: John.Cooper.must.die.die.die
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Date: 11 Oct 92 01:59:44 EST
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

	Cooper must die, that's all there is too it.

	I know, it's not his fault that Eddie fumbled twice near the goal line
(kiss 14 pts goodbye) or that usually reliable Williams misses two field goals
(another 6)...

	But it is his fault for using either/or series.  Either runnnnnn, or,
when he's up a creek, passssss.

	The announcers sure knew what was coming, you can bet the Biting Illini
did also.

	So for the second year in a row, a better OSU team falls to the
Feathered Ones.

	OSU had them everywhere except where it counted at the end: the
scoreboard.  Geeze.  Luck our way instead of Illini and it's 36-14 or so.

	Anyway, back to my Cooper rant.  People hated Bruce because he took
12-0 teams and went 9-3.  We now have Cooper taking 10-2 teams and going 7-4. 
Ah, well.  Who's available to coach?

	Last week was one thing, Wisconson played better than we did (for 50
minutes, at least :).  Today OSU completely outplayed Illinois, but for luck
and an unimaginative coach came up short.

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From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: The Big Eight's Demise as a national power
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:46:15 GMT
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <1992Oct14.142244.3754@wvnvms.wvnet.edu>, wt124177@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:
>This really is not news to the majority of football fans,
>but the Big Eight's hopelessly option dominated offenses....well,
>Colorado at least is trying to pass more often....
>
>Do not get me wrong...the Big Eight does have the talent,
>but its emphasis is in the wrong place. I personally thought that
>Oklahoma was going to make strides after seeing their crushing of
>Virginia in their bowl matchup last year.  They did use a powerful
>balanced offense.  However.....that seems not to have happened with
>losses to USC and Texas....(might as well pencil in losses to Nebraska
>and Colorado also.....)
>
Whoa there.  In the USAToday(Tues,10-13-92) it stats the Big8 as
going to the air for the first time in league history.  Through
39 games, the league has passed for 7,341yds and rushed for 6,777yds.
for a 52% to 48% pass-to-rush ratio.

Colo is 1,582 to 647
Mizzou is 1,162 to 614
OU is 1,306 to 737.

I don't have the other stats on hand right now.  I will agree that
the Big8 doesn't seem as dominate this year.  
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: mminihan@inetg1.ARCO.COM (Mike Minihan)
Subject: Re: TEXAS vs. ou
Organization: ARCO Oil and Gas Company
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:59:26 GMT

In article <seale.718658675@bcserv>, seale@bcserv.wustl.edu (Seale (Jeff))
writes:
> stuff deleted
> 
> You got the t-shirt wrong, it's supposed to be
> 
>     A&M sucks....... but
>     Texas swallows!!!
> 
> at least that's the way it reads on the Texas Tech campus!
> -Jeff
> 
> GO TECH!!!!!
> 

Thank you Jeff; tuck fexas

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Mike Minihan      mminihan@arco.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jeff@jlk.b11.ingr.com (Jeff Kilpatrick)
Subject: Curry Bashing was (Re: Biggest Rivalry in the Country?)
Keywords: haven't done it this year
Reply-To: jeff@jlk.b11.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:27:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.172555.3281@b11.b11.ingr.com>, mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct9.201243.8638@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov> jwilson@homeboy.msfc.nasa.gov writes:
|> >
|> >As I stated in a previous post, the AU/UA game is the biggest game of
|> >the year for both teams.  As bad as most Bama fans hate to admit it,
|> >THE reason Bill Curry was run out of town was because he couldn`t beat
|> >Auburn.  In a year with only 2 losses (AU and Miami), many fans were 
|>                                                        ^^^^
|>     There, at least, is a nuggett of truth.  Many fans were more
|> than a little upset with Curry as evidenced by someone lobbing a
|> brick through his window.  However, Curry went to Kentucky to
|> interview for the coaching job on what should have been a quiet 2 or
|> 3 day trip.  Instead, he turned it into a media circus for a week. 
|> All this *after* the AD and University President gave him the vote
|> of confidence and asked him to stay.  Now, if you go to another

  But Guy, the contract extension was one "he could refuse", Curry admitted after
reviewing the contract it was obvious he was not the person they wanted for the
next decade.  You know hiring Curry/Sloan sealed Joab's fate as Prez.  Even
Curry's attorney, Robert Davis (a Bryant player), said he could not believe the 
contract.
  Curry was disliked for a number of reasons; being a Tech man, not being able to
coach or recruit.  Remember when Curry would not recruit 'Lectron because he
lived in projects in Mobile?  If Curry could coach, how come he had a losing
record with 10 years at Tech; then 3 years after he is gone, Tech shares the MNC?  
Homer Smith accused Curry of changing the plays he would send in.  Why?  If he
hires this brilliant offensive co-ordinator, why is he calling the plays?  Good
football coaches don't leave Bama to go to Kentucky (maybe a basketball coach). 
Curry has won ~9 games so far @Kentucky out of 27?  Looking at their schedule, I
see a possible win @Cincinnati, nothing else. However, he did get a 5 year
extension on his contract earlier this year.  Perhaps that's why C.M. Newton got
elected to the Alabama Sports Hall of Fame (though Dye didn't cast any votes for
C.M.).
From: ckoontz@RDXSUN40.AUD.ALCATEL.COM (Carl H. Koontz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Roger's Top 25--5 Oct 92
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:10:15 GMT

In rec.sport.football.college tannerg@milton.u.washington.edu
(Glenn "The Outdoors Man" Tanner) exquisitely writes:

>>They then won 3 in a row before having their Cotton Bowl and National
>>Championship hopes nipped by Baylor this weekend.
>>
>You forgot to mention that the Heisman campaign of Dandy Dan Freiburger was 
>likely put to rest, also.
> 
>GT

No Glenn, don't lose the faith!

A good game against Rice this Saturday could put Dandy Dan Freiburger back
into the thick of the Heisman Trophy Race.

Carl

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From: milius@proton.med.umn.edu (Bob Milius (BMEC))
Subject: Re: PENN STATE BEATS MIAMI!!!!!
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 04:51:53 GMT

In article <92286.205305RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>On Saturday afternoon, the Penn State Nittany Lions beat the Miami Hurricanes
>in every statistical category except for return yards, and the most important
>one, interceptions.  Given the facts that Miami was dominated by Penn State

The most important statistic at the end is the score... frustrating but
true. 

>in every category and the 'Canes still won (Gino 11-31  80 yards) then one has
>to make the following assumption :
>                           No. 1  MIAMI
>                               2  Washington
>                               3  Michigan
>                               4  Florida State
>                               5  Texas A + M
>                               ---------------
>                               7  Penn State - get Boston College this week!!!
>
>
>
>                                                      -The Nittany Lion
>                                                       (Joepa is still proud!)

-bob
a Michigan fan


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From: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Subject: Re: U2 at Legion Field .........
Reply-To: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:38:20 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.075447.1@ducvax.auburn.edu> swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.173013.3474@b11.b11.ingr.com>, mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell) writes:

>>     You guys are really lacking for something to talk about, huh. 
>> I've seen this basketball related thread appear far too many times
>> on a *football* newsgroup.  The real scoop is that Bono is in
>> trouble for copying a Bob Dylan song and not crediting him.  When
>> asked about it he said, "I just forgot the quotes". (Sorry David, I
>> wasn't going to use it but I had to)
>
>A plagiarized plagiarism joke!

    Aw come on David.  I credited you.  Sort of.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: phantom@stein.u.washington.edu (The Phantom)
Subject: Re: PENN STATE BEATS MIAMI!!!!!
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 05:38:39 GMT

In article <92286.205305RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>On Saturday afternoon, the Penn State Nittany Lions beat the Miami Hurricanes
>in every statistical category except for return yards, and the most important
>one, interceptions.  Given the facts that Miami was dominated by Penn State
>in every category and the 'Canes still won (Gino 11-31  80 yards) then one has
>to make the following assumption :
>                           No. 1  MIAMI
>                               2  Washington

so.... Miami played like shit and therefore should be #1? I understand.

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From: chyang@litotes.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: Re: Miami Can Not Be Denied!!!
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 19:25:07 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa
Originator: chyang@litotes.engin.umich.edu


In article <1992Oct11.215831.28813@ncsu.edu>, sbanerj@eos.ncsu.edu (SANJEEV  BANERJIA) writes:
> 
> No, the 'Canes aren't winning pretty right now but they're still winning, on the
> road against top 10 teams.  Some believe that if you don't win in a dominating
> fashion, why win at all?  I don't follow that school of thought. I believe that
> truly great teams will win even if they don't play anywhere close to their
> potential.
> 
> Now, the Arizona game is hard to explain away, but I still think Miami is the
> best team in the land and could beat the Huskies by 6-10 pts on the road.
> 
> Sanjeev

	I wouldn't be too sure about that.  PAC-10 defense has been 
revamped after what the HUSKIES have done.  Now, pretty much everyone in
PAC-10 plays the same style of defense as the Huskies.  Based on what
Miami-Arizona game.  I will be surprised if Miami even can keep up with
Stanford or CAL.   Don't be surprised if Miami does match up with Stanford
in a Bowl game (Provided that Stanford loses to Washington).  

	On the other hand, if Miami does play Washington at Seatlle 
this season.  I am not going to say the Washington will definitely win, 
but Miami will have a hard time hanging on to the ball.  Gino Torreta 
could very possibly sustain injury.  Many mistakes will occur on the Miami 
side due to the noise, low tempurature, and the rain. Now if the game was 
at Miami then it would be a differnent story.  But don't be so arrogant 
as to assume Miami will win games anywhere anytime.  In fact just ask 
Dennis Erickson who is from the Seattle Area.  If such a game were to occur, 
he would probably make his players practice in a enclosed stadium with 
loud speakers blasted and a bunch of shower heads turned on.  

	BTW, Washington have much better kicking game than either FSU, ASU,
or PSU.  This team will not lose games by missing field goals.  

- Chung Yang   

	
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: tremblay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Marc Tremblay)
Subject: Re: Rose Bowl..National Champiom??
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 17:55:10 GMT

In article <009620E9.56AC4E40@abby.chem.ucla.edu> larry@abby.chem.ucla.edu writes:
>
> (Jeff Nappi) writes:
>>I know its still early but it looks more and more like we might have
>>a National Champion matchup in the Rose Bowl. Washington and Michigan
>                                               ^^^^^^^^^^
>>are ranked #1 and #3 respectively in the polls and I really don't see
>>anyone knocking these guys off. Miami certainly deserves a shot but
>>the above matchup could well be the best of all the Bowl games.
>
>Alas! My ears can take no more.  In spite of the fact that the 
>Cardinal must travel to Seattle this year, Stanford has a real
                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>chance of beating UW, especially if the Card learns how to convert
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Look what you've done! Aaaargh! Now Stanford has no chance of
winning... You're *not* supposed to say things like that before the
game. It goes like this: you spend the weeks leading up to the game
saying how good they are, you show up an underdog, you spot'em a 16-0
lead to make them overconfident and then, BAM! 33 unanswered points...


========================================================
| Marc Tremblay                  |  Stanford Cardinal  |
| tremblay@sunrise.stanford.edu  |  1993 Rose Bowl     |
========================================================
From: willmsch@buzz.rtp.dg.com (Royce Willmschen)
Subject: Re: Biggest Rivalry in the Country?
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 21:23:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Data General Corporation, Research Triangle Park, NC

> >What are the biggest, oldest, most intense rivalrys in the country and are
> >they as intense to both teams?

Although it doesn't seem to get the national media attention that it used to, 
the Georgia/Georgia Tech rivalry is very intense.  This rivalry goes deeper
than football too; it's big city vs. country, technology vs. liberal arts,
1200 SAT's vs. 900 SAT's, ...  You can get a EE or drama degree at either UT or 
Alabama, but, in Georgia, you can only get a EE degree at Tech and a drama 
degree at Georgia.  So, even though the other rivalries may mean a big football 
game, the antipathy doesn't go much deeper.  Some other states have similar
rivalries with different twists, i.e. Clemson, technology and country, vs.
South Carolina, liberal arts and "city".

Half my family practically disowned me for going to Tech.  In fact, my uncle 
use to have a Yellow Jacket in the bottom of his toilet.  Of course, he never 
attended a class at UGA.  For him, the football team IS the university.

The title of a book on the rivalry sums it up - "Clean, Old-Fashion Hate".


-- 
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From: mhorbove@digi.lonestar.org (Mike)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: UT at Austin football
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:12:07 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications, Plano Tx.

In article <1992Oct10.024536.5380@menudo.uh.edu> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
>In <1992Oct9.215708.2019@digi.lonestar.org> mhorbove@digi.lonestar.org writes:
>
>[much so-called "Longhorn" drivel deleted.]
>
>  And not even a freshman.  Tsk.  You know, Goob they get dumber every
>year.  I nominate this guy for the Goober School for the Clueless.
>
>semper fi,
>
>Jammer Jim Miller 
>Texas A&M University '89 and '91

sorry Jimbo, just stating the facts.  yeah, most of my a&m friends are
speechless after that one also.
for those that missed the original article, i stated that UT has a winning
record against all SWC teams and when a&m has a winning record against us
then we can talk.  obviously, jim was offended by the facts and mad at his
school (i.e. that junior college in "college" station) because they don't
have a winning record against us (i.e. that powerhouse in Austin). :):)

mike

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From: tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Sagarin ratings of conferences
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:44:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct15.174450.29640
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <71280@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes...
> 
> The sole purpose of the point spread is to make the
>betting on each team as even as possible.  It is only a reflection of teams'
>strengths and weaknesses so far as the bettors see different teams in 
>defferent ways.  There is no correlation between point spread and winning or
>losing a game.

If I remember correctly, "Vegas Line" is ranked ahead of over half the people
in Chris Stassen's pool.  (It's at least ahead of Goober.  :) )  

GT
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: wessir@stein.u.washington.edu (Bill the CAT)
Subject: #1 votes
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:00:58 GMT


Is it possible that voters keep saying that #1 is ethier washington or miami
because they know they will never play each other???  Why stick your neck out
when you don't have to?  The arguments will go on but no one can stick it to
them and say they were wrong.  Kinda like the weatherman saying it might rain,
maybe?
From: elpwestg@nuscc.nus.sg (West)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: AP Top 25 (Was Re: Miami Can Not Be Denied!!!)
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:05:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: nuscc.1992Oct16.040532.27021
Distribution: usa
Organization: National University of Singapore

elpwestg@nuscc.nus.sg (West) writes:
: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:
: : 
: : In article <dkm2.718951522@Isis.MsState.Edu> dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee) writes:
: : 
: :   >Actually, I just want all of this Miami - Washington woofing to stop.  Until
: :   >the two teams play, it will continue.  Even if one team gets beat, they
: :   >will say the other still can not beat them.  Oh well.....
: : 
: : But they won't say as much.  Nothing stops woofing like a good loss.
: : Witness the lack of woofing by TOSU and Tennessee fans lately...
: : 
: : Here's to Miami and Washington, ahead of Michigan in the polls, but
: : behind Michigan in talent.  
: : Go Blue!
:FINALLY! After all the pointless discussion about UW/Miami, the Voice
of Reason is finally heard. Michigan is going to win it all this year.
After all, they can't keep losing bowl games for ever and ever, world
without end, can they? CAN THEY? :*)
without end, can they? CAN THEY? :*
without end, can they? CAN THEY? : 
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From: jcopelan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (The One and Only)
Subject: Ohio State Sucks!!!
Keywords:  Choke!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 20:10:48 GMT

Cooper Sucks!

I can't wait to see all the season tickets go up for sale now.

At least Miami won, and they aren't even as good as they have been in
the past.

jc



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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Worst Rule in College Football
From: jeff appleman <MBAJSA@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:07:29 EDT
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

In article <cls4.718915547@Isis.MsState.Edu>, cls4@ra.msstate.edu (Charles L.
Spirrison) says:
>
>The worst rule in college football?
>No doubt in my mind --> the defensive pass-interference rule!
>
>Opinions or other nominations?

 And how many times have you seen a Hail Mary perfectly defended or close and
the zebras decide there was interference. It works both ways - the announcers
even get this right - "it's time to put it up and hope for a miracle or get the
interference call". Talk about a game decided by the officiating!!
 Obviously, my vote is to leave it the way it is.

 - Jeff  GO LIONS!
From: pkester@hooville.mitre.org (Peter Kester)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Best marching band
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:31:00 GMT
	<Bvrq0H.n31@news.larc.nasa.gov>
	<1992Oct7.214321.11392@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>
Distribution: usa
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

Ken Bowers writes:
>Charlie Cockrell writes:
>>UVa does not have a marching band. The Pep Band is not a marching band and
>>is not designed to be one. The Pep Band is
>>designed to be entertaining with their halftime and pre-game shows in
>>which they rip apart not only the school we're playing but any other
>>topic they can think of. The Pep Band used to be a lot funnier - they've
>>instituted a review board which screens all of the jokes now. 
>
>The UVa band used to get in a *lot* of trouble.  On one trip to Maryland
>in the seventies, they based their show on the fact that the sitting and
>previous several Lt Governors and Governors of Maryland (including Spiro 
>agnew) had been indicted by Grand Juries. Even though the band had all their 
>facts correct, some folks up that way got pretty steamed, and 
>threatened never to let the band back in the *state.* 
>
The Virginia Pep Band (aka TAWFCI/OP?MPB&CSU!!! -- figure out that acronym!)
is still not allowed to perform a show at Maryland.  They are also banned
from West Virginia due to a family feud skit performed a number of years
ago.  The review board was instituted because of some people's lack of
humor.  Unfortunately, it has caused a lack of humor in the Pep Band.

>I suspect that satire bands like Virginia's and Stanford's are much
>easier to take when the associated team is lousy. Snotty humour 
>seems funnier from backers of losing causes. 
>
There's definitely a correlation.  The better the team does, the more the
review board waters down the jokes.

Looking forward to seeing the Pep Band and signing the Good Old Song many
times (hopefully) this weekend.

Pete Kester
pkester@mitre.org
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From: crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: UCLA WILL BEAT THE WSU COUGERS
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:29:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct16.162944.4044
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

jfc@salmon.macsch.com (Jack Castro) writes:
> 
>I predict the score will be UCLA 23, WSU 17.
>
>Positive Points:
>
>1) UCLA's offense is improving. Freshman QB Rob Walker handled the pressure
>   much better against Stanford than against Arizona. I don't know if
>   statistics show this, but he did look much more poised on TV.

I caught a brief blurb in the Seattle P-I this morning which indicated that
Walker might not play.  Unfortunately, I had other pressing business to
attend to (that's right, I iron for a living), and didn't read the article.
Does anyone down in LA-LA land know the scoop?

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