HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: panu@sol.acs.unt.edu (Sittiwong Panu)
Subject: Re: more trivia, anyone ?
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:13:16 GMT

fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv Fragante) writes:

>Now this should be pretty easy. OK, give the traditional names of the following
>numbered woods:

>1W    -   Driver
>2W    -   ?
>3W    -   ?
>4W    -   ?
>5W    -   ?

>If anyone knows the names for 6-9 woods, please mention it.

>Enjoy!

Dan King (dking@raul.nas.nasa.gov) posted this message on 25 Sep. 91.
I like the traditional name so much that I filed his post.  Here it is.

1W - Driver  2W - Brassie  3W - Spoon  4W - Cleek  5W - Baffie

1Iron - Driving Iron     2I - Mid Iron             3I - Mid Mashie
4I - Mashie Iron         5I - Mashie               6I - Mashie Niblick
7I - Pitcher             8I - Pitching Niblick     9I Niblick

Panu Sittiwong
Academic Computing Services
University of North Texas
Denton, TX 76203                                Panu@unt.edu

Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: dedek@meaddata.com (Mike Dedek)
Subject: Re: Chipping
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:55:12 GMT

I saw on some show recently a pro giving advice on this matter.  He basically
described this:

ft. from edge     club      stance
of green 	

1-8                7i        very open, choke down, clubface very open
9-15               8i        less open, less choke, clubface less open
16-22              9i        slightly open, slight choke, clubface slightly open
23 on up           pw        regular, use less than full swing

Note the distances are approximate, the idea was that the closer you get to
the green, you gradually open up your stance and clubface, begin choking down,
and use a longer club.  Conversely, the further from the green, you get closer
to a "normal" swing with a "normal" club.

-Mike
From: glenn@voyager.Berkeley.EDU (Glenn D. Adams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: clone clubs?
Date: 13 Aug 1992 20:20:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: voyager.berkeley.edu

    Does anyone out there own a set of Riviera brand clubs?

    I have seen both the AX-102 model irons (supposedly Titleist DCI clone,
looks very similar) and their clone fathead driver (named "Big Brother"). 
These (and other so-called clone clubs) are being sold as equivalent
design/materials etc. at a lower cost.  Does anyone want to comment on that
claim wrt Riviera (or anybody else for that matter)??

Thanx in advance,

/glenn  - suspects that golf club marketing is largely hype.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: djordan@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (David Jordan)
Subject: Re: du Maurier Classic Updates
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 17:17:41 GMT

jean-k@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Jean Kalich) writes:
: Could someone keep us informed as to what's happening with the LPGA du 
: Maurier Classic? 

Kristi Albers		70-68 138
Juli Inkster		70-69 139
Kelly Robbins		67-72 139
Sherri Steinhouerer	67-73 140
Meg Mallan		67-73 140
Mitzi Edge		72-69
Kim saiki		72-69 141
Tammie Green		70-71 141
Judy Dickinson		70-71 141
Dana lofland		69-72 141
Michelle Mackall	67-74 141
Shelley Hamlin		74-68 142
Donna Andrews		73-69 142
Barb Mucha		71-71 142
Florence Descampe	71-71 142
Hollis Stacy		70-72 142
Michelle Estill		69-73 142
 
Sorry that's all I have time to post 
Regards, David Jordan
From: walker@eplrx7.es.duPont.com (Scott Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: Golf in the Olympics
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:24:47 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: DuPont Central Research & Development

In article <fragante.713550980@unixg.ubc.ca> fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv Fragante) writes:
>Sometimes, I really wonder if the Olympics does award the *best* athlete in
>the world. With a rare appearance of every 4 years, with the moment of truth
>occurring just once - it might just determine who is the luckiest player in
>the world. FOr example, look what happened to Sergei Bubka and Steffi Graf.
>
>Opinions ?!

Yes!  I wholeheartedly agree with this.  I could not stand watching any more
Olympics after the "hands down Gold medal favorite" ends up not even
qualifying, or just getting a bronze, beaten out by a no-name.  They put so
much hype on these atheletes, and if they have one bad day, then they are 
history, which isn't fair.  And we all know what one bad day in a golf
tournament can do to you.  Guys who are hot one week place in the middle of
the pack the next.

******************************************************
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walkersc@esvax.dnet.dupont.com

+++The few opinions I express are not the opinions of my employer.
"What's settled down?  Settled down is you get married and then you buy a
house.  You can get a wood house, a plaster house or a stucco house.  
Oh, how you can get stucco!"  - David Lee Roth, on Rockline
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From: fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv Fragante)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Mizuno MP-xx
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:48:40 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada

I am posting this for a friend who is interesting in a set of Mizuno blades.
He wants to know the difference between the MP-9 and MP-11.  Both are current
models and both are almost identical.

Anyone tried these ? 

Thanks.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: paul@ace.acadiau.ca (Paul Steele)
Subject: Beginner seeking advice on selecting clubs
Organization: Acadia University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 12:46:37 GMT

I have been doing some golfing this summer using borrowed or rented clubs.  
Next summer, I think I will buy myself a moderately priced set, and would 
like a few pointers on what I should look for.  One thing I have noticed is 
that different sets of clubs can have different lengths of handles.  Is that 
something I should be aware of when I select a set?  I am 5'7" BTW.

Also, if anyone can recommend a good golf training video, I'd appreciate
some suggestions.  Thanks.


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv Fragante)
Subject: Re: More trivia (was: SONY World Rankings)
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 22:01:31 GMT

In <fragante.714166355@unixg.ubc.ca> fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv Fragante) writes:

Here is the summary of the responses to the "Name the clubs of the stars"
trivia.

>>1.  Nick Faldo ENG       20.37

      Mizuno (current one)
      Wilson (previously)

>>2.  Fred Couples         16.89

      Lynx Parallax
      Tommy Armour 845's (previously)

>>3.  J.M. Olazabl SPN     15.09

      Maruman (purportedly the current one)
      Mizuno (saw his caddy carry this in the Masters)
     
>>4.  Bernhard Langer GER  13.31

      Wilson (long-time Wilson Staffer)

>>5.  Ian Woosnam WAL      12.88

      Maruman (hey, that "Are U a man .." catch-phrase is cool !)

>>6.  Greg Norman AUS      11.40

      Cobra (yep, he bought or owns part of the company)

>>7.  Seve Ballesteros SPN 11.08

      Slazenger (long-time Slazenger/Dunlop user)

>>8.  Davis Love III       10.73

      Tommy Armour 845's (current one)
      Hogan Apex (previously)
      Accuform (previous to Hogan's)

>>9.  Paul Azinger          9.90

      Hurricane

>>10. Tom Kite              9.72

      Hogan Apex (yes, indeed long-time Hogan user)


Other notes:

Some mentioned about Nick Price. Well, he does endorse Spalding Tour Editions
and play Spalding clubs, but I read that he recently changed his irons 3 weeks
ago prior to winning the PGA ? Is it still Spaldings, or something else ?

Also on Mark Calcavecchia, he used to play 845's. Someone in the net mentioned
that he saw Mark play Ping Eye 2's lately. Well, I think Mark has now changed
to Mizuno's as I saw his caddy carry a Mizuno bag in a recent tournament. Mark
played with the Ping Eye 2's before he played the 845's during the square-
groove controversy. I read that it was he himself that help ignite the furor
when he hit an 8-iron out of deep rough, landed on the green and backspinned
a couple of feet. Since then, Mark was labelled one of the "hi-tech kids".

Congratulations to Bill O'Donnell who correctly guess 9 out of the 10 player's
clubs. I myself scored 9 out of 10 as I did not know Olazabal switched to
Maruman. These must be really popular in the European tour.

Read next post for more trivia.
From: tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: GOLFWEEK
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:23:32 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB

ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum) writes:
- -------------
- 
- I've been asked via email for information on how to subscribe to GOLFWEEK,
- which I highly recommended in rec.sport.golf. It really is a fabulous
- magazine that no serious golf fan should do without. 

Can you describe it and compare to other magazines I know about (like
the monthly Golf's Digest and Golf Magazine)? Less glossy? Less
advertisments? Pages / issue?

- 
- Here's how to subscribe:
- 
-    Send to   GOLFWEEK
-              P.O. Box 420409
-              Palm Coast, FL. 32142-9853
- 
-     Cover price is $2.50 per issue. Subscription  rates are 26 issues for
-     $1.15 per issue, or 52 issues for 96cents per issue. Choose how many 
-     issues you want and they'll bill you - or include a check.

Do they have an Overseas (Europe) subscription price? Some magazines are
not so expensive as you might think, since they bulk ship them by KLM (or
similar) and then surface mail them inside Europe. Some even print here
as well, they transfer the originals electronically by sattelite.

- 
-     Even easier is to call their subscription department: 1-800-829-5116.
- 

Fax #?

-     Of course, I have no connection with GOLFWEEK other than being a very
-     satisfied customer.
- 
- -Ron

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: tomc@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Churylo)
Subject: Hilton Head recommendations
Organization: Mentor Graphics, Silicon Design Division
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:24:39 GMT

Well, it appears my wife (non-golfer :( ) will be vacationing
in Hilton Head in mid september. So, I am looking for recommendations
on golf, lodging, restauraunts.....anything to do with the island.

Also, more golf related. When playing my local muni courese, most of
the sand traps tend to be hard (especially due to the increases
rain in the NorthEast this summer). Anyway, I'm able to hit out
of real sand traps with some luck (I can actually follow the advice in
golf magazines and shows), however, I don't have much luck out these
hard sand traps. So, what is the net advice????

Thanks,

Tom Churylo
Mentor Graphics Corp.
Warren N.J.

tomc@warren.mentorg.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: clarkem@uproar.enet.dec.com (Mike Clarke)
Subject: Re: London Golf Recommendations 
Reply-To: clarkem@uproar.enet.dec.com (Mike Clarke)
Organization: Digital Equipment Service Industries Solutions Company Ltd
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 11:20:44 GMT


In article <1992Aug10.175333.28284@pony.Ingres.COM>, 
martyg@Ingres.COM (Marty Garrison) writes:
>
>
>I'm soon transfering to London for an extended stay. I've heard that
>golf is expensive and there are few public courses. Can anyone recommend
>a reasonable public course, preferably close to public transportation?
>

Tricky question.  Actually there are lots of public courses in the suburbs
around London, although their quality is often not very good.  It isn't
going to be very easy for you to play them though, especially if you have to
rely on public transport since not very many are accessible by tube/bus.

They all have one thing in common - they get VERY busy. At weekends it can be
impossible to get a round unless you like getting up at 5am  and playing in the
dark.

Unless you have some idea where you are going to be living it won't be possible
to recommend any courses.  For example, if I told you about courses to the 
north of London and you end up living south of the river then the travelling 
time by public transport might easily be 2 - 3 hours.  If you live in central
London (which I doubt) then you have a big journey whichever direction you
go.  This is a big city.

As far as cost is concerned, I play regularly on a public course about 5 miles
north of Heathrow (the DEC office is next door to the clubhouse -- yahoo!!)
which costs #8.00 per round weekdays and #10.00 weekends.  This seems to be
pretty typical.  If you have a handicap card you can often get a round on a 
private course during the week by calling them claiming to be a visitor to the 
area and in need of a fix of golf.  Private clubs will charge #25.00 plus for
green fees, and tend to be very snooty - not my kind of golf.

Sorry to be so negative.  On the other hand I could recommend some great
restaurants...

Mike


Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: billodo@cyclone (Bill O'Donnell)
Subject: Re: REQUEST: club-building advice
Organization: Rosemount, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:19:42 GMT

fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv Fragante) writes:

: Yeah, I whole-heartedly agree with you. I have done grips, re-scrored irons,
: repainted grooves and logos, refinished woods and now would like to re-shaft
: irons. I've had my share of errors, and I'm relieved that I did these on a
: practice set. Otherwise, I would have been mad if I attempted all these on
: a first set of clubs.

How do you re-score irons?  Can it be done to forged clubs?  Do they need to
be re-scored?  I had one of my 16 year old Staff Tour Blades rechromed this year
and It is like new...without re-scoring. I would think the need for re-scoring 
would be even less for stainless steel, since it is harder than carbon steel.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: sdo@hoops.mitre.org (Sean D. O'Neil)
Subject: Sanibel Island (Fort Myers, FL) recommendations
Organization: Research Computer Facility, MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:40:41 GMT

I see an earlier poster is going to Hilton Head, which is where I
thought I'd be going.  However, my wife has just changed her mind
and decided that we'll be going to Sanibel/Captiva Island just off
the Florida Gulf coast where Fort Myers is.

Anybody got any recommendations on what course(s) I should try to
play in the area while I`m down there?

In addition, I'll be in Orlando the week before and will have one
free day.  Any recommendations for there?

Thanks in advance,

Sean
From: tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: Hilton Head recommendations
Date: 20 Aug 92 11:48:50 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB

mdiamond@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Mark P. Diamond) writes:
- In article <1992Aug19.152439.7782@Warren.MENTORG.COM> tomc@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Churylo) writes:
- >
- >Also, more golf related. When playing my local muni courese, most of
- >the sand traps tend to be hard (especially due to the increases
- >rain in the NorthEast this summer). Anyway, I'm able to hit out
- >of real sand traps with some luck (I can actually follow the advice in
- >golf magazines and shows), however, I don't have much luck out these
- >hard sand traps. So, what is the net advice????
- >
- 
- First, and you probably already know this, you are not allowed to
- use your club, hands or any other appendages to determine the condition 
- of the sand -- except your feet.  I like to walk around a bit before I

You are not allowed to do that with your feet, either. You are allowed to
dig your feet down in the sand to be able to stand steady, but that's it.

- determine the condition.  If it's really hard, I often use a pitching wedge 
- instead of a sand wedge.  Because of the flange, a sand wedge has a tendency
- to bounce in really hard sand, producing a skulled shot.  A pitching wedge 
- digs more into the hard sand.  To prevent from digging too deep, I hit an inch
- behind the ball instead of the customary two inches with a sand wedge.
- 
- Mark <> 

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From: straw@cam.nist.gov (Mike_Strawbridge_x3852)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: club clones
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:26:16 GMT
Organization: National Institute of Standards & Technology, Gaithersburg, MD

I posted this before but suspect that it never got out to the world since
our news went down about the same time and I didn't get any replies.

I've read different postings in this newsgroup recently about club sets
and component club heads that are designed to be similar to some of the name 
brand (and more expensive) clubs like Ping Eye-2's and Tommy Armour 845's. 
I would like to hear about any experiences with these clone clubs. Who 
makes them? How much do they cost? How do they really compare to the name 
brand clubs?

Thanks.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: sjk@kepler.unh.edu (Stephen J Kenny)
Subject: Re: Microsoft : Golf for Windows!
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:25:05 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.090648.4952@gw.wmich.edu> 20lim@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>Hey, did you guys know that there's a new golf game that runs in windows?
>It's made by Microsoft, in a joint "venture" with ACCESS creator of LINKS
>and Links386Pro. I can't wait for it.

It's already out there..got my copy last night.
Still a little overwhelmed by the 356 different view
options, not to mention the trajectory graphs..........
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From: hasker@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Rob Hasker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: Short story
Date: 22 Aug 92 12:34:47 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL

jimv@dadd.ti.com (Jim Vahsen,VAHZ,) writes:

>My only revenge was that the ball bounced off of my back, and over the fence.
>The son-of-bitch (sorry) had to take a 2-stroke penalty.  

Of course, they guy would probably never have hit it to that spot if you
hadn't been there :-).  (That is, the physics controlling this shot is the
same as when a ball invariably goes into the lake that you're concentrating
on not hitting into.)

Rob
From: TKSGJVV@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Golf Clubs
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:04:47 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo

Last week I had the opportunity to use a split shaft driver.  The
lower portion (about 12 inches) was steel and the remainder was
graphite.  Is any body aware of this shaft being sold on the
market????  The head was a wide body ACER series 2001,,,
Does anybody  know who the manufacture of 2001 is???
I would like to order one......
 
PS -- I'm just about ready to order a set of ADVANTAGE irons in the
      AITTD series,,Ping-eye 2,, clones,,,, Can any body
      comment of this decision,,,like are they really Ping Eye -2
      clones??????
 
Thanks in advance.....
Gerald Von Vreckin
St. Univ. of NY at Buffalo
TKSGJVV @ UBVM
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: mgwyer@uk.oracle.com (Mike Gwyer)
Subject: Re: More trivia (was: SONY World Rankings)
Reply-To: mgwyer@uk.oracle.com
Organization: Oracle UK
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:29:57 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.


In article <fragante.714166355@unixg.ubc.ca>, fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv
Fragante) writes:
|> In <1992Aug18.172507.21403@osf.org> ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum) writes:
|> 
|> >-----------
|> 
|> >Someone had asked about SONY rankings as of August 2nd. I imagine
Nick Price
|> >and Jeff Maggart have gone up a bit, while John Daly has gone done,
but Faldo
|> >must still be number 1. 
|> 
|> >Here's the top 26 and selected others:
|> 
|> >1.  Nick Faldo ENG       20.37

Was Wilson, now Mizuno

|> >2.  Fred Couples         16.89

Lynx

|> >3.  J.M. Olazabl SPN     15.09

Was Mizuno, now Maruman

|> >4.  Bernhard Langer GER  13.31

Wilson

|> >5.  Ian Woosnam WAL      12.88

Maruman

|> >6.  Greg Norman AUS      11.40

Cobra ( I think )

|> >7.  Seve Ballesteros SPN 11.08

Slazenger

|> >8.  Davis Love III       10.73

Dunno

|> >9.  Paul Azinger          9.90

Dunno ( is it Hurricane ? )

|> >10. Tom Kite              9.72

Hogan

|> 
|> OK, so now that we have the list of 10 top players in the world, name
the clubs
|> (irons) which they play/use. Let's limit the clubs to irons as most probably
|> use a different brand of woods. But if you know exactly what brands of woods
|> and irons these players use, say it !
|> 
|> Have fun!

Nick Price has gone from 17th to 10th after the USPGA. He uses Spalding.

Mike.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: panu@sol.acs.unt.edu (Sittiwong Panu)
Subject: Re: Golf in the Olympics
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:20:47 GMT

oil@idt.unit.no (Odd Ivar Lindland) writes:


>The Olympic programme is up for a major revision and it seems that golf 
>may be on the Olympic programme in Atlanta 1996. Does anyone of you have
>some more information, comments, opinions on this issue? 

According to The Dallas Morning News a couple week ago, golf will be in
the Olympics at Atlanta as a Demonstation Sport.  The format will
be a team of three or four with 72 holes play.  There will be medal for
both team and individual.  All the Pros can play.  

In fact, the news give me some hope of me going to the Olympics representing
Thailand in golf.  I have four years to sharpen my skill.

Panu Sittiwong
Academic Computing Services
Univ. of North Texas
Denton, TX 76203                          Panu@unt.edu

>Odd Ivar Lindland
>PhD-student
>University of Trondheim
>Norway 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv Fragante)
Subject: Re: Palm Springs Clubs?
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 18:40:29 GMT

In <1992Aug19.155451.24458@wuecl.wustl.edu> jdd@wheezer.wustl.edu (John DeHart) writes:

>I'm in the process of shopping for a new set of clubs.
>I've been looking at the Palm Springs Desert Classic II.
>Anyone have any experience with them or Palm Springs in
>general?

I started golf with a set of Palm Spring Tour Series 1-3 woods with graphite
shafts. I was really attracted by the sale price. The performance is OK -
nothing bad really. I'd say they would be good value for the price.