HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: alan@km4ba.uucp (Alan Barrow)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Greetings From the Front Line
Date: 6 Sep 92 06:13:05 GMT
Organization: km4ba's packet radio gateway

In <601@bongo.UUCP> julian@bongo.UUCP (Julian Macassey) writes:

>	Please note: Yes, telco stayed in place. I also read in a "ham"
>report on comp.dcom.telecom that in the Miami area 98% of the telco was
>working post the storm. Does this tell anyone anything?

Please understand that "Miami" is not the same as S Dade County 
(Homestead, S Kendall, Perrine, Cutler Ridge, etc)

Telco is *not* alive there, nor were/are cell sites.

Miami rcd 160-170 Mph winds, and most of the big damage was due to the
"storm surge" (IE: water)

As posted (by me) elsewhere in this group, the Turkey Point (Homestead)
Power Plant weather station was recording gusts well over 200 Mph 
before they lost the entire station.

I have been told that the Keys only recently recv'd phone service again.
There is a major terrestial Microwave site on Card Sound road which
bridges Homestead to N Key Largo. I know that the Navy listening
post on Card Sound road was leveled, so I suspect the phone microwave
was as well.

Again, my point with hugo and cell phones was to be flexible, and use
any technology you have. Also that 2m rptrs, no matter how good, do 
not an emergency comm system make.

I am told that the 40m "waterways" net (7.268) was very active during 
the first few days after Andrew hit. It is the main Marine net in the keys
and S florida. There is also a rptr in Plantation (20-30 mi south homestead)
that should have survived.

Anyway, we shall see how well Amateur radio did. I hope it was of use, but
I suspect we wold have heard more by now if it had.

73!


 Alan Barrow  km4ba | I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack
 jab@               | ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched
 hpuerca.atl.hp.com | C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
 ..!gatech!kd4nc!   | All those moments will be lost in time -
         km4ba!alan | like tears in rain. Time to die.          Roy Batty
From: gerwitz@Kodak.com (Paul Gerwitz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Reconditioned rotors
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:19:05 GMT
Followup-To: gerwitz@kodak.com
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co.

The rotor on my TV antenna finally died in the spring.  I find myself
very reluctant to pay upwards of $60 for a new model and wondered if any
satellite buffs might know of a place that sells reconditioned units a bit
cheaper ?
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From: stevej@pillock.moron.vware.mn.org (Steven Jarosh, KA0VYB)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RE: ORBITING FM REPEATER?
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 12:22:49 CDT
Organization: 11th Hour Contest Group (North American Chapter)

RON@NSULA.EDU (Ron Wright - NSU Computer Center) writes:

> for AO-21 are:  Uplink 435.015 and Downlink 145.987.
> 
Why was 145.987 chosen, since only some Base and older FM units are able to 
dial this frequency?  

Steve KA0VYB
From: n7949188@henson.cc.wwu.edu (John Hatten)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Yaesu FT-470 scanning in priority mode
Summary: Thanks for the help so far.  How does one scan while in priority mode?
Keywords: Yaesu, FT-470, mods, handheld, dual band
Date: 15 Sep 92 10:47:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Sep15.104714.4943
Organization: Western Washington University


  First of all, thanks to the many of you who sent info on mods to the
FT-470.  I tried to send individual thanks back, but I think I may have lost
a few.  (I am rather new at this...) I have done a few of the programing
mods and am quite a happy camper!

  Now as for as this scan goes, the manual says I can scan while the rig is
in priority mode. For me, I put it in priority mode (FM+VFO), then press the
up (or down arrow) to start the scan.  As long as I hold the key down it
kind of scans, but not like it should: as soon as I release the arrow, the
scan stops at that fx.

  I would love to figure this one out.  Any ideas?

John Hatten N7BWX
Bellingham, WA
From: derry@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John Derry)
Subject: Re: 50/144 dual bander. WAS: American manufacturers of ham gear.
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:36:52 GMT


In article <randall.716511268@seashore> randall@informix.com (Randall  
Rhea) writes:
> bobw@col.hp.com (Bob Witte) writes:
> 
> >derry@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John Derry) writes:
> >> I wonder what the market would be for a dual band rig pairing 2  
meters and  
> >> 6 meters.  Just like many years ago when the (now traditional) Techs  
came  
> >> along and very adequately populated the 6-m band, there are many of  
the  
> >> new techs (both nocode and traditional) who are interested in six  
meters,  
> >> at least in these parts.
> >>
> >   I'll take one as long as its all-mode and reasonably sized (for
> >   mobile use).
> 
> 
> It would be great if more all-mode 6M rigs were available at more
> reasonable prices.   Yaesu did come out with an all-mode 12m, 10m,
> and 6m rig (100W), but its price is high. ($1800 if I recall correctly)
> The Yaesu FT-690-II is the smallest all-mode- small enough for
> mobile or portable- but it costs about $650 and only covers one
> band.
> 
> My dream rig would be a small, 12V dual-band (6m/2m) all-mode 10W rig 
> with a detachable linear amp for 100W.   Make that baby $650 and I'll
> buy one, and so would a lot of others.  (Well, one can dream, I suppose)
> 
> An FM-only 6m/2m dual-bander is a nice idea, but I doubt that it
> would sell. 

> 6m FM is not popular for a reason: the range is
> lower and the noise is higher than on 2m.
> 
            I GUESS I'M LUCKY HERE.  USUALLY THE NOISE 
            LEVEL IS VERY LOW.  WHEN ITS DOES GO UP, IT
            SOARS.  THE RANGE COMMENT DOESN'T SEEM TO
            TO ALL THOSE WHO USE 2-M REPEATERS.  6-M
            REPEATERS ARE NICE, TOO.

            WHAT I HEAR IS THAT 6-M EQUIPMENT IS JUST
            NOT AS EASY TO COME BY AS 2-M   ---   JACK
           

> 73 DE KK6MY
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
>  
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> Randall Rhea                                        Informix Software,  
Inc. 
> Project Manager, MIS Sales/Marketing Systems     
uunet!pyramid!infmx!randall
From: mark@lenti.med.umn.edu (Mark Olson (CDC))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: wanted: source for RF power modules
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:44:34 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota


   Hello,
  
  I am looking for a source of RF power modules for a 6m rig.  The company
that I get RF parts through, RF Parts, Inc., is back-ordered for the
Toshiba units.  I've been told that Philips also makes these modules, but I am
unable to find a supplier.
  
Please reply through email, thanks!
  
mark olson
mark@lenti.med.umn.edu
From: pierson@empror.enet.dec.com (dave pierson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: batteries on concrete
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:30:02 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Sep9.165801.20510@ncar.ucar.edu>, elmore@virga.ucar.edu
(Kim Elmore) writes, in part:

>In article <6+sn+=n@dixie.com> jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
> 
>>The issue is not concrete per se.  The issue is placing the battery in a 
>>cold, damp environment, such as the envrionment that exists right over
>>most concrete floors in basements and so on.  This cold, damp enviroment
>>will supply moisture to the hydroscopic deposits that frequently
>>collect on the outside of a battery.  THIS process will discharge the 
>>battery.
>>
>>Discovering this is as simple as placing a well used battery in such an
>>environment and probing around the case with a DVM.  The voltage you
>>observe is the tramp current finding its way across the case.

>	I considered this when dueling with HR over concrete and
>batteries and don't buy it as sufficient to discharge the battery.
	Believe it.  At least in some cases.

>If this were the case, batteries wouldn't last long at all on John's neck
>of the woods because there is generally so much moisture in the air.
	Requires, also, a dirty battery.  Salt on the road, say, not common
	in those woods.

>While we can, no doubt, measure voltages across
>the surface of the battery, the fact that they can be measured
>indicates a relatively high impedance and so a rather low discharge
>rate.
	????  Measuring a voltage on the outside of the case, in the "crud"
	(Corrosiveive, Resistive, Unspeakable Dirt) indicates that there is
	current flow.  Doesn't say anything, per se, about the resistance of the
	CRUD.

	Case in point (story told on myself, coming up....):
	Battery started showing up dead, after not using the car (motorcycle,
	or walk to work, instead).  Looking at the top, it WAS a tad dirty,
	by no means feelthy, but CRUDdy enough.

	Ran a meter across the top, outside, surface of the case.  Yep.  Nice
	voltage divider.  Didn't try to measure the current (interesting
	challenge: devise an ammeter to suit...).  Rinsed off the top of the
	battery, and all was well.  Battery was replaced, before failure, a
	year or so later.

thanks
dave pierson			|the facts, as accurately as i can manage,
Digital Equipment Corporation	|the opinions, my own.
146 Main St			|I am the NRA.
Maynard, Mass	
01754				pierson@majsty.enet.dec.com
"He has read everything, and, to his credit, written nothing."  A J Raffles
From: TREVINO@accdvm.accd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: PL Tones
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:19:48 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

One more tidbit on PL tones : Since they were developed in the
late 1940's by Motorola, They have enabled small Police Depts. to
share crowded VHF frequencies. 800 Mh. systems are gradualy making
these obsolete.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: ron@pilot.njin.net (Ron Natalie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Log Program for MAC - avail via FTP ??
Date: 13 Sep 92 18:04:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Kieth Sproul (WU2V or is it Y, one's his, one's his wife) has a
Hypercard stack that not only does logging it also controls several
different radios (provided you've already got thme connected to the
MAC).  I'd have to believe that this software is at least shareware
(knowing Kieth though, he's just giving it away).  I don't know of
anyplace that has it on the Internet, but I know Kieth is working on
increasing the MAC software component of the Buckmaster CD ROM's
(there's a lot of room left over after the call book).

-Ron
From: tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Kenwood TS690s Users?
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:16:55 GMT
Reply-To: tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton)
Distribution: world
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

I have just put a Kenwood TS690S on line here (replaced a TS530 --whew!).
So far, the performance seems pretty good...able to hear and work Pacific
and Asia on 40M (with 2 ele yagi) thru summer QRN.  Plan to have it on
6 meters in about a week.  Anyone else using the TS690s that  could
advise me of any bugs or quirks?  Thanks! 73, Tom  WB4IUX


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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: tom@xn.ll.mit.edu
Subject: Re: more about ham legends
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Lexington, MA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 17:42:35 GMT

In article <605@bongo.UUCP> julian@bongo.UUCP (Julian Macassey) writes:
>
>
>
>In article <i672588@pro-haven.cts.com> phantom@pro-haven.cts.com (Tiffany Keller) writes:
>>Ok....
>>In <1992Sep4.153146.20014@cs.rose-hulman.edu>
>>derry@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John Derry) writes:
>	Stuff deleted
>>
>>% 4.  If you set a car battery on concrete it will discharge it much
>>%     faster than if you set it on wood.
>
much delete>



>	But. I stand willing to be shown the error of my ways. Could
>someone explain how concrete makes a discharge path through a plastic
>battery or point me to literature where measurements have been made.
>Until then, we should leave this to alt.folklore.urban.
>
>-- 
>Julian Macassey, julian@bongo.info.com  N6ARE@K6VE.#SOCAL.CA.USA.NA
>742 1/2 North Hayworth Avenue Hollywood CA 90046-7142 voice (213) 653-4495

how about the discharge effect on a train from all the conductors!

and 
 
how about batteries going dead in the army from honerable discharge?
if any one can give julian a concrete answer why a battery wood discharge
he might be happy.
     8={)              tom  K1KAY
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gws@n8emr.cmhnet.org (Gary Sanders)
Subject: Re: Flagpole Antennas
Organization: HAM BBS, 614-895-2553 (1200/2400/v.32/pep)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 14:08:13 GMT

In article <79020@ut-emx.uucp> kipper@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Kip Ingram) writes:
>Hi.  I've ascertained that my covenant basically prohibits all external
>antennas, but that the association big shots feel that it would be un-American
>to prohibit flagpoles.  So, I've decided to definitely do a flagpole antenna.
>I'm interested in *any and all* info that anyone out there can give me on 

How about one of those 90ft telrex tube towers.. Now thats AMERICAN!!!!
put your flag on that.. Proud may she wave.

-- 
Gary W. Sanders gws@n8emr.cmhnet.org, 72277,1325
N8EMR @ N8JYV (ip addr) 44.70.0.1 [Ohio AMPR address coordinator]
HAM BBS 614-895-2553 (1200/2400/V.32/PEP) Voice: 614-895-2552 (eves/weekends)
From: noah@acsu.buffalo.edu (Philip D. Noah)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: how do I qsl a ship ?
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:50:11 GMT
Organization: UB

Last night I was able to log my first utility call. I heard a Ship named the
Orleans Star talking to a shore station on 8.785Mhz in upper side band. The
shore station was trying to call a phone number for the ship but the line
was busy. I've npoticed that Monitoring Times publish a log of calls like this
that the readers send in. I also noticed that sometimes people get QSL cards
for logging calls like this. I have a few cards from Hams I've heard and from
stations like WRNO, BBC and so on. My question is how do I find out the home
port of the ship and if I write to them will the send me a card ?
Also does anyone know the address of the Halifax cost guard station ? I heard
them on the same freq. giving a weather report. From what they said this freq.
is known as ch 14. Does someone out there have a list of all the HF ch's that
the ships use ? 
F.Y.I. I'm in Buffalo, NY and I was using my DX-440 w/a random wire antenna.

Philip D. Noah Jr.
Dept. Of Anthropology
SUNY at Buffalo
380 M.F.A.C. Ellicott complex
Amherst NY
noah@acsu.buffalo.edu
From: Don_R._Moberly.El_Segundo@xerox.COM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ACSB repeater in Los Angeles
Date: 10 Sep 1992 11:08:19 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
Reply-To: Don_R._Moberly.El_Segundo@xerox.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

I received this note from Jim Steffen KC6A. I would like to Pass it on with my
Thanks for all of Jims Kind words.
It serves to Illistrate that people can use the repeater with very little cost
or effort if they all ready have a SSB 2 meter rig.

{
From: James Steffen KC6A.
I was excited to hear someone has taken this bold first step in bringing some
new technology to our overcrowded VHF bands here, so I rushed home last night
to listen to this repeater and try it out. I connected an audio oscillator to
the microphone input through a resistor (10k or so) and tuned it in. The
receive freq is about 144.893 MHz usb and the input is about 145.493 MHz usb. I
immediately worked Carl, AB6FC and Don, WB6LFC, and later I worked Dave, WA6CGR
after telling him how to get on it.

This technology is exciting because it works in a 5 khz channel compared to the
current 20 khz channels. This would allow 4 times the number of channels in the
same spectrum that we currently have! Future success in this wil require people
like Don and Carl making the commitment to put something on the air and
experiment with it. Since this is a new technology (for hams) it is not fully
compatible with current ham equipment. ACSB is basically an SSB radio with some
special processing stuff that allows it to perform with many of the advantages
of fm. Both Don and Carl have "real " ACSB radios and can enjoy its full
benifits. Using a standard SSB radio with a pilot tone injected via an audio
oscillator will allow you to get started but will not have the quality of true
ACSB, so it should not be judged by just listening to it with an SSB radio!
Audio from the repeater is highly compressed but completely intelligable and a
little of the 3.1khz pilot tone can be heard.

I happen to have a box I built years ago with the audio compressor
/decompressor and was able to hook it up to my radio. Don said it made the
audio sound better. They want to explore the feasibility of using a little add
on circuit outside the radio that will do the processing, but unfortunately,
most SSB radios do not pass the 3.1khz pilot tone very well which is essential
in making the system perform well. Despite this drawback, it is useable as is
with a normal SSB radio and an audio oscillator. I want to congratulate Don and
Carl for their efforts in making this bold new step and I hope others will join
them in experimenting with it.

	73
	 Jim, KC6A }

Thanks Jim,
73
Don WB6LFC
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jhenderson@pomona.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: New Topic
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:45:26 PDT

In article <01GOMJBSL77M91VZDB@IRIS.uncg.edu>, MOSIER@iris.uncg.EDU writes
> Thus, in the public interest, I propose that we open discussion on
> #6 flat washers.  (My hope is that we can ascertain how various metallurgical 
> treatments affect the generation of magnetic micro-fields through dissimilar 
> metal contact and how these fields might affect junction performance in some 
> mosfet receiver front ends.)

Not to mention the government consipracy in allowing TV's to be manufactured
(their CRT's produce Xrays, which are bad for you, and the electromagnetic
field generated by the flyback transformer will give you cancer).

______________________________________________________________________________
Javier Henderson, N6VBG         | Beat the 55mph limit (legally):
jhenderson@pomona.claremont.edu | Learn to fly!
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap
From: jhays@boi.hp.com (John D. Hays)
Subject: Re: Hamfest Bogus Check Alert
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:31:43 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise Printer Division (LAFS)

In article <1992Sep11.205921.24963@mtu.edu> mtjachim@mtu.edu (Mr. M. T. Jachimstal) writes:
>randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:
>>1) A low check number.  The account may just
>>have been opened.  Be suspicious of check numbers below 500.
>>
>
>I have problem with this, no mattewr how true it may be. Just
>because somebody just opened their checking account doesn't mean
>that they should automatically be under suspicion. I had 
>an account at a credit union in the city where my father used to work.
>When he changed jobs, it was no longer worth our time to do our
>banking in that city. I had to close that account and open up
>a brand new one. Even though I've had checking accounts for
>years, my check numbers are now around 130.
>

I have moved a number of times over the last 18 years, and when I
open a new account, I merely order the checks starting with a
higher number (i.e. start at 1000 rather than 100), it eliminates
a lot of unwarranted prejudice.  I think it was Utah where the
banks print the month and year your account was opened on the
checks, but it seemed people eyed the check number more often.

John

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: ken@swbatl.sbc.com (Ken Gianino 5-9081)
Subject: Re: American manufacturers of ham gear.
Organization: Southwestern Bell Advanced Technology Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 12:47:02 GMT

In article <randall.716172293@seashore> randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:
>jeffj@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (jeffrey.n.jones) writes:
>
>>I keep thinking that what the market needs is a HF rig for $400. I don't
>>need all the bell and whistles that the overpriced HF rigs have. I am
>>using a old Swan 700CX with excellent results. What I would like to see
>>is a basic rig with 2 VFO's, a couple of memories and over 100 watts output. 
>>Also with a built in power supply. There is a real hole in the market waiting 
>>to be filled by a rig like this.
>
>I don't see how such a thing could be done.  The Icom 725 seems
>to be a no-frills rig, and the prices recently for a new one
>came down to about $750.  I don't think an all-band HF rig with
>2 VFOs has EVER sold for as low as $400, not even in the good-ol days.
>I saw an ad for a Drake TR-4 from the early 70's that sold for $600
>new.
>
>-- 
>
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>Randall Rhea                                        Informix Software, Inc. 
>Project Manager, MIS Sales/Marketing Systems    uunet!pyramid!infmx!randall


 Don't kid yourselves, Ham HF rigs are consumer equipment and are 
 marketed as such.  [DDemographics show that Hams are getting middle
 aged, established, have some money to burn and generally buy what
 they (think) they want.  What would you build in your factory?
 
 Between 1970 and now, I can't think of a single other piece of consumer
 grade electronics that hasn't dropped in price (even with the
 years of big-time inflation).  I was just looking at an RCA 20"
 remote controlled, synthesized tuner color TV for $200.  What
 did the equivalent in the RCA line cost in 1970 -maybe $500?
 Given the lower volume, the efficiently built progeny of the
 TR-4 should sell for about $300.  It'll never happen.

 Ken - WB0QNA
From: leadfoot@bigbootay.sw.stratus.com (Mark Curtis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Death to coaxial power connectors
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:14:22 GMT

In article <7272@lib.tmc.edu>, jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
|> I agree that having the positive side of the power connection be on the sleeve
|> of the coaxial power connector is brain-dead, but...
|> 
|> In article <6256@transfer.stratus.com> leadfoot@bigbootay.sw.stratus.com (Mark Curtis) writes:
|> >True, but if the collar of the BNC on the top of the HT touchs any bare
|> >grounded metal in the car ... ZAP!  If I use an outside antenna and the
|> >base of a mag mount/antenna grounds to anything, even for a split second,
|> >ZAP!  No thanks.  The chance of something happening is just to high.
|> >Now if was driving an old brit car with positive ground then it wouldn't
|> >be a problem.
|> 
|> ...just because the sleeve of the power connector is positive doesn't mean
|> that the chassis of the radio is therefore positive as well. Those connectors,
|> especially the PC board mount variety, are quite often isolated from the case
|> of the radio (as in, for example, my IC-32AT), and so the chassis of the radio
|> can easily be the negative side of the power supply.
|> 
|> It's a minor hazard to have the sleeve be the hot side, but only in the case
|> where the connector touches a grounded metal part of the car while not plugged
|> in to the radio. Once it's plugged in (assuming it's the correct length), it's
|> completely safe.

True.  I assumed that the case/BNC collar would be positive.  I'll check
that tonight.

Mark
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