HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: suley@bilbo.uio.no (Suleyman Kondakci)
Subject: Re: ASALA ogli Hanzo Nazolasiyor
Keywords: tavsan, kedi, silah, kari, terror
Reply-To: suley@bilbo.uio.no (Suleyman Kondakci)
Organization: University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 10:01:53 GMT


Birilieri benim kimligimle 'forging' yapiyor, eyer Oslo Universitesinde ise
vede yakalarsam yandi. Okuldan kovduracak kadar hukmum var herhalde.

Irkci pezevenk benim hem yari kurt hemde dogulu oldugumu cok iyi bilmeli.

Suleyman
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From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Muslims were persecuted, banished, and slaughtered between 1914-1920.
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 16:21:58 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <8065.3248.uupcb@factory.com> michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) writes:

>  What, all 0.25 cubic centimeters of it?

Nope. Between 1914 and 1920, 2.5 million Turks perished of butchery at 
the hands of the Armenians. The genocide involved not only the killing 
of innocents but their forcible deportation from the Russian Armenia. 
They were persecuted, banished, and slaughtered while much of Ottoman 
Army was engaged in World War I. The Genocide Treaty defines genocide 
as acting with a 'specific intent to destroy, in whole or in substantial 
part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group.' History shows that 
the Armenian dictatorship intended to eradicate the Muslim population. 
2.5 million Turks and Kurds were exterminated by the Armenians. 
International diplomats in Ottoman Empire at the time - including Admiral 
Bristol - denounced the Armenian dictatorship's policy as a massacre of 
the Kurds, Turks, and Tartars. The blood-thirsty leaders of the Armenian 
dictatorship at the time personally involved in the extermination of the 
Muslims. The Turkish genocide museums in Turkiye honor those who died 
during the Turkish massacres perpetrated by the Armenians. 

The eyewitness accounts and the historical documents established,
beyond any doubt, that the massacres against the Muslim people
during the war were planned and premeditated. The aim of the policy
was clearly the extermination of all Turks in Armenian dictatorship
territories.

The Muslims of Van, Bitlis, Mus, Erzurum and Erzincan districts and
their wives and children have been taken to the mountains and killed.
The massacres in Trabzon, Tercan, Yozgat and Adana were organized and
perpetrated by the blood-thirsty leaders of the Dashnaks and Hunchaks.

The principal organizers of the slaughter of innocent Muslims were
Dro, Antranik, Armen Garo, Hamarosp, Daro Pastirmadjian, Keri,
Karakin, Haig Pajise-liantz and Silikian.

Source: Bristol Papers, General Correspondence: Container #32 - Bristol
to Bradley Letter of September 14, 1920.

"I have it from absolute first-hand information that the Armenians in 
 the Caucasus attacked Tartar (Turkish) villages that are utterly 
 defenseless and bombarded these villages with artillery and they murder
 the inhabitants, pillage the village and often burn the village."

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)

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From: reza@ai.mit.edu (Reza Shadmehr)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Where to stay in Istanbul?
Date: 12 Nov 1992 14:00:49 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: spindle.ai.mit.edu


Hi.  I'm a student visiting Istanbul for the first
time (this christmas season), and was wondering if I 
could get your advice on where to stay for a few nights 
and how to get there from the international airport.

I have been making myself familiar with the region by
reading travel books, but it doesn't take the place of
talking to someone who has actually lived there.  So
I'd appreciate any hints you might have.  Thanks.

Reza Shadmehr
M.I.T.
From: TEX5HAD@CMS1.LEEDS.AC.UK (Haluk DEMIRBAG)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Sides in Tadzhik conflict refuse to heed peace call (fwd)
Date: 13 Nov 1992 22:31:58 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

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>From: clarinews@clarinet.com (MARIA KOROLOV)
Subject: Sides in Tadzhik conflict refuse to heed peace call
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 13:42:02 PST

        KURGAN-TYUBE, Tadzhikistan (UPI) -- Combatants in the strife-torn
Central Asian republic of Tadzhikistan Thursday ignored calls by a
newly-created interim council to cease fire and work towards a
settlement in the long-running civil war.
        Anti-government rebels remained distrustful of moves by the
authorities to reconcile the warring sides, even though one of their key
demands, the resignation of the Islamic-democratic coalition government,
has now been met.
        ``How can we trust these people?'' opposition leader Sangak Safarov
told reporters in the southern rebel stronghold of Kurgan-Tyube, citing
repeated cease-fire violations by government forces.
        Fighting continued Friday in the Kurgan-Tyube region, as well as
other areas in the south and east of the backward former Soviet
republic. The war thus far has left thousands dead and created an army
of refugees.
        Tadzhikistan's coalition government this week handed power to an
interim council, headed by former acting President Akbarsho Iskandarov.
The council will rule until the republic's Parliament chooses a new
government at a session due to start next Monday.
        Parliament has not met since the beginning of the conflict, which
broke out last May after an alliance of democratic and Islamic parties
overthrew Communist President Rakhmon Nabiyev, stirring up a hornet's
nest of ancient clan rivalries that touched off a civil war.
        The pro-Nabiyev rebels fighting government forces in Kurgan-Tyube
reject claims they want to restore the old hardline regime.
        ``They accuse us of wanting to reinstate a Communist government,''
said Sangak Safarov. ``This is falsehood. We want a pure, renewed,
secular, democratic government.''
        Kurgan-Tyube still bears the scars of heavy fighting, with many
government and residential buildings destroyed. The hospitals are
overflowing with casualties from clashes between rebel troops and pro-
government forces.
        Sharif Ismonov, a middle-school literature teacher from the nearby
pro-Nabiyev stronghold of Kulyab, was recovering from a leg wound. ``I
was shot by my own former students,'' she said. ``I am from Kulyab. That
was enough. My house was burned down. The cow, the sheep, they took
everything.''
        In the capital Dushanbe, 60,000 refugees from the fighting are
putting a strain on already scarce resources. The railway network has
been disrupted by terrorist attacks and looting by troops. Supplies of
flour, sugar and oil are running out.
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From: gt0702a@prism.gatech.EDU (Muzaffer Kayhan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: TURKISH SOCCER RESULTS, ROUND 10
Date: 9 Nov 92 04:46:26 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

BESIKTAS - TRABZON : 0-0

G.SARAY - F.BAHCE  : 0-1

ALTAY - K.YAKA     : 2-1

A.GUCU - KAYSERI   : 0-0

AYDIN - G.BIRLIGI  : 3-2

BURSA - KOCAELI    : 0-2

SARIYER - G.ANTEP  : 2-0

KONYA - BAKIRKOY   : 1-3



Besiktas-Trabzon macinin nerede oynanmis oldugunu bilmiyorum.

T
-- 
Muzaffer Kayhan
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp:	  ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt0702a
Internet: gt0702a@prism.gatech.edu
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From: TEX5HAD@CMS1.LEEDS.AC.UK (Haluk DEMIRBAG)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: >>> Save Bosnian Orphans <<<
Date: 11 Nov 1992 21:37:12 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

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> From: A_KADIOGLU@SMCVAX.BITNET

Dear Friends,

        I just  want to  ask for a  couple of
minutes; I am very much moved with the things
happening in Bosnia&Herzegovina  and with the
efforts of  the editors of TRKNWS-L;  we have
innovated  a  number   of  news  articles  on
Bosnian   Genocide,  compiled   from  various
different newspapers. Today  we think we have
informed  all  of  you   about  how  bad  the
situation in Bosnia is. Bosnia has an embassy
in  Newyork  and  I   myself  talked  to  the
Ambassador on the  telephone. He just depends
on the  Turkish friends  who give  them help.
Till Today they received very little help.

        Just  think how  miserable  it is  to
loose your own parents,  who you had memories
who have  cared about you in  your childhood.
For lots of children this is the case. Mother
is the only protectorate  for a human, she is
a source of mercy  and love for her children.
My father used to say  "you need love as much
as you  need food  from your parents."  I can
understand that  now they  are very  far away
from me...

        I recently  contacted the  editor and
asked for a permission  to write this letter.
I am  very grateful  to him. UK  has received
1000 children whose parents are murdered, now
they are going to  be distributed between the
families who offer new home to them.

        These  children did  not have  a good
time in  their childhood when they  needed to
play they  faced fighting for  something that
they are not aware of. Many of them still are
not aware why  they are going to  be taken to
UK.  The editor  and  I thought  of making  a
sponsorship  for these  little  kids, we  are
going to ask all of you to send anything from
your heart,like we thought if everyone sends
$3 this would reach a  sum of $3000 which may
be deposited  to a  bank accaunt  under their
name, this would be a present from all of us.
We also thought of  drawing some names of the
participants so that they can share what ever
they wish through  this  network. Let's  help
these orphans. The addresses are:

in USA

Murat  Kadioglu
SMC BOX:317,
Winooski Park,
Colchester,
VERMONT 05439,
Tel: 802-655 6518
e-mail: A_Kadioglu@smcvax.bitnet

in UK

Mustafa Ozbayrak
8 Angus Drive
Loughborough,
LEICS., LE11 OWH
Tel: 0509-263171 Ext. 4247 / 4248 (day time)
e-mail: M.Ozbayrak@lut.ac.uk

Thank you so much

Ahmet MURAT KADIOGLU
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: erkam@acadia.Kodak.COM (Yusuf Murat Erkam)
Subject: Re: Basketbol Ligi
Organization: -
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 14:13:09 GMT

In article <10NOV92.19192072.0031@MUSIC.TCS.TULANE.EDU>, GB2YBSG <GB2YBSG@MUSIC.TCS.TULANE.EDU> writes:
|> Merhaba,
|>   Net'e gecilen futbol ligi haberlerini ilgiyle izliyoruz.  Acaba
|> Turkiye'deki arkadaslardan basketbolla ilgilenen varsa, basketbol ligi
|> sonuclarini da gecebilir mi?
|>   Mesela yanilmiyorsam Kolej, Korac Kupasi'nda cok basarili olmus.
|> Israil'in unlu Hapoel takimini hem Israil'de (ki Hapoel bilmem kac
|> yildir evinde kupa maci vermemis) hem de Turkiye'de yenip ceyrek finale
|> cikmis.  Ceyrek finalde bir Yugoslay takimina kil payi yenilip (toplam-
|> da 8 sayi galiba) yari finale cikamadan elenmis.
|> [ part of the article has been deleted]
|> Saygilar,
|> Murat Gulkan
|> 

	Kolej'in maclarindan haberim yok, ama yine Korac Kupasi'nda
Fenerbahce, ceyrek finalde Israil'in Maccabi takimini her iki macta da
yenerek yari final grubuna kaldi. Yari final grubunda maclar lig usulu
oynaniyor...


	Ligde ise yaklasik 10.haftaya girildi (bu sezon 16 takim oldugu icin 
toplam 30 hafta lig maclari yapilacak). Yanilmiyorsam Fenerbahce namaglup lider 
durumdaydi. Ligde sampiyonluga oynayan diger takimlar ise gecen sezonun
sampiyonu Efes Pilsen ile Nasas.

--Murat
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: scgeoff@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (GEOFF ELLIOTT)
Subject: Camel Wrestling
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  6 Nov 1992 09:27 EST  

In case anyone's interested:

Tonight (8:30 EST) on the cable channel ESPN there is to be a 30 minute
sports program about Camel Wrestling in Turkiye.

Eniste Geoff




Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: deniz@mandolin.ctr.columbia.edu (Deniz Akkus)
Subject: Re: CFV: misc.news.east-europe.rferl moderated
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:17:07 GMT
Summary: repost from elsewhere
X-Posted-From: mandolin.ctr.columbia.edu
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In article <BxIHt1.ns@uunet.uu.net> sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog) writes:
#This is a call for votes for the creation of the moderated newsgroup
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From: spebcg@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr B G Cetiner 92)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Hayranlarimdan(!) birinin dusuncesi
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:30:29 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, Wales, UK
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway



|siz Turk degilsiniz. Her zaman bir Arap hayrani olarak kalacaksiniz, o yuzden 
|benim icin bir Arap'tan baska birsey degilsiniz.

Hayranlarimdan (!) birisinin yazmis oldugu iltifat mektuplarindan
birisinin ufak bir parcasini sizinle paylasmak istedim. Isim lutfen
sormayiniz. Kaya'nin yazilari cok fazla etkilemis garibani, baksaniza
Islam'in  sadece Mekke ve cevresine  inen bir din olduguna oyle inan-
mis ki Araptan baska kimsenin musluman olamayacagina kanaat getirmis.
Peki musluman olan diger milletler, onlar mi hepsi Arap hayrani ve
dolayisiyla Arap'tan baska birsey degil. Iste bu tip zihniyet yuzunden
600 yil birlikte kardesce yasadigimiz insanlarla bugun ayrilma noktasina
getirildik. Allah bu gibi zihniyetteki insanlari basimiza musallat
etmesin.

Saygidan anlayana saygilarimla

B.G.Cetiner
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: nsg0604@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (NaciSaGlam  )
Subject: Re: ASALA ogli Hanzo Nazolasiyor
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:27:46 GMT
Keywords: tavsan, kedi, silah, kari, terror

-- 
naciSAGLAM
+======================================================================+
| Deli eder insani bu dunya, bu gece, bu yildizlar, bu koku;           |
| Bu tepeden tirnaga cicek acmis agac.  OVK                            |
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: georglin@leland.Stanford.EDU (george lin)
Subject: Re: The Armenians are continuing to massacre Muslims in the vicinity of...
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 08:59:02 GMT

Senar Argic is a third-rate coprophage.  I do the Senar Argic.  Kiss my
Senar Argic!  Hasan B. Mutlu and Senar Argic are fiftieth-rate.  Who is
the Senar Argic who believes in vasarnap, szombat, hetfo, and csutortok?
Xref: sparky soc.culture.turkish:11465 talk.politics.mideast:22055 talk.politics.soviet:8846 soc.culture.greek:10474 soc.culture.europe:9471 soc.history:9332
From: fitch@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Don't blame me- I voted for Bill and Opus)
Subject: Please, anyone familiar with x-USSR Turkic languages, help out!
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 05:37:22 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

	The Russian and EastCentral European Studies Program at
Colorado State University is designing a t-shirt, and we need your
help and assistance.  This is a fundraiser and it will assist us
to provide programs, as we receive no funding from the university.
What is needed is this: can you translate the phrase "RUSSIAN AND
EAST CENTRAL EUROPEAN STUDIES" into Azeri, Kazakh, Kirghiz,
Turkmen, Uzbek, or any of the other local languages?

	You would really be helping us out.  Thank you for your
time and patience.

	Please respond directly to: fitch@lamar.colostate.edu

Sincerely,
Chris Fitch
R.E.C.E.S. Program, CSU

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From: bakd@tet.uni-hannover.de (Birol Akdemir)
Subject: Tanisma
Reply-To: bakd@tet.uni-hannover.de
Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Elektrotechnik, Univ. Hannover
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:29:07 GMT

Hallo !
Ben Hannover universitesinde Elektronik okuyorum ve 9.somesterdeyim.
20 senedir almanyadayim ve Corlu'da dogudum.
Bu Internet'e daha yeni kulaniyorum. 
Tum dunyada deisik yerlerde yasiyan turklere selam soylemek
istiyorlum ve bilhasa TURKIYE'E.
Bana e-mail yollarzanis cok sevinirim. 
e-mail adress : bakd@tet.uni.-hannover.de

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---
Birol Akdemir
Adress :
Institut fuer Theoretische Elektrotechnik
Appelstrasse 9a
3000 Hannover 1
Germany
From: hhrant@ocf.berkeley.edu (Helgge Minassian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Neither To Laugh Nor To Weep
Date: 12 Nov 1992 05:57:43 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: monsoon.berkeley.edu

    Neither To Laugh Nor To Weep...a testimony by Abraham Hartunian.
    This is the preface to the must-read book.

    The premeditated, ruthless, official campaign by the Turkish
    government and army to exterminate Turkey's Armenian minority-
    which began in 1895- ground relentlessly through 27 years and
    two million deaths.  Another two million people- the scattered
    and ragged remnants of a once proud people- were figuratively
    (and often literally) driven into sea before Turkey had solved
    its "Armenian Problem."
    The memoirs of Abraham Hartunian, a clergyman who endured those
    years and survived to reach America, have been a family treasure
    for a generation.  No angry wish for revenge on the stage of
    public opinion, no desire to open old wounds, brought them into
    print.

    -Helgge

					 "When governments forget that
					  they are dealing with human
					  beings, not abstract problems,
					  the result can be horribly
					  inhuman."

					  Abraham H. Hartunian
From: ane2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (AHMET NAZMI EKER)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re:Karases(Cetiner'e)
Date: 7 Nov 92 08:51:17 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Nov5.121257.6174@gw.wmich.edu>, 988fernandez@gw.wmich.edu writes
:
>
>   Nazim HIKMET senin dusundugun gibi vatan haini degil,bir vatan kahramanidir
>B.G.Cetiner.Onun sanatini gercek vatan askinin ne oldugunu bilen her insan
>takdir ediyor.
>   Su karases diye cagrilan ve hakkinda birseyler yazmayi dahi cok gordugum
>zihinsel ozurlu ile onun pesine fareli koyun kavalcisini izler gibi takilan
>kafasizlardir asil vatan haini.
>
>
>
>Bilgehan GOKMEN
>
    Soylediklerinize tamamen katiliyorum ve destekliyorum.

                                Nazmi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: vd8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Vedat  Dogan)
Subject: Demirel says...
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:34:30 GMT

   
   Demirel says recovery has begun
 
   ....
   ......
   In a speech on 13 October at a conference organised by MEED and 
   Interforum of the UK, Demirel said gross national product(GNP)
   grew by 6.4 per cent in the first six month of 1992 compared
   with a fall in the equivalent period of 1991.Value added tax(VAT)
   revenues rose by 7.7 per cent in the same period compared with
   1.3 per cent fall in the first half of 1991. Industrial production
   rose by 8.4 per cent in January-June 1992, compared with a small
   fall in the corresponding periond of 1991. "these figures indicate
   that the stagnation in the Turkish economy in 1991 was overcome
   to a great extent in 1992," Demirel said.     
 
   Demirel said other encouraging features of the economy's performance 
   in the first half of 1992 inculeded:  
   
   * a 9.1 per cent increase in exports over first-half 1991 figures to 
     $7,000 million."Estimates indicate that the exports of July 1992
     surpass those of 1991 by 20 per cent," Demirel said.
 
   * Tourism revenues were 60 per cent up and are expected to reach 
     $4,000 million in 1992.
  
   * An increase in foreign currency reserves. By 21 August, they had 
     increased by $3,400 million over the the level reported in October
     1991.
 
    ..........   
    ....
    
   From MEED, 30 October 1992
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
    
  Saygilarimla,
  ismet
 
                The Turkish nation is ready and resolved to advance,
                unhalting and undaunted, on the path of civilization.
 
                                                Mustafa Kemal, 1924  
  
         
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: GB2YBSG <GB2YBSG@MUSIC.TCS.TULANE.EDU>
Subject: Basketbol Ligi
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-26961]: music.tcs.tulane.edu
Organization: Your MUSIC System
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:46:13 GMT

Merhaba,
  Net'e gecilen futbol ligi haberlerini ilgiyle izliyoruz.  Acaba
Turkiye'deki arkadaslardan basketbolla ilgilenen varsa, basketbol ligi
sonuclarini da gecebilir mi?
  Mesela yanilmiyorsam Kolej, Korac Kupasi'nda cok basarili olmus.
Israil'in unlu Hapoel takimini hem Israil'de (ki Hapoel bilmem kac
yildir evinde kupa maci vermemis) hem de Turkiye'de yenip ceyrek finale
cikmis.  Ceyrek finalde bir Yugoslay takimina kil payi yenilip (toplam-
da 8 sayi galiba) yari finale cikamadan elenmis.
   Futbola bir garezim yok tabi ama bu kadar ilgi ve milyarlarca lira
para sundugumuz futbol bize ne verdi bugune kadar?  Anca bir arpa boyu
ilerledik.  Kirk yilin basinda San Marino diye adini daha once hic
duymadigimiz bir ulkeyi yeniyoruz, yer yerinden oynuyor;  basketbolda
yari finale cikiyoruz, tik yok.  Haksizlik degil mi bu?  Herhalde bu ka-
dar kotu futbol oynayan adamlari bizim kadar simartan baska bir ulke
yoktur.
Saygilar,
Murat Gulkan

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