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From: slootman@EVS2.UIA.AC.BE (Wim Slootmans)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: Re: Interlingua?
Date: 17 Aug 92 08:51:05 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet

>  hello! I'm curious as to know whether there's an interrest in "Interlingua"??
> As I've got it, "Volapyk" was invented in 1879, and "Esperanto" in 1887,
> and I figured that is a bit old... "Interlingua" was invented in 1951, and

What is the problem with being old?  Swedish and English are even older
and yet you're using both, aren't you?  Language isn't something like a
computer, where you simply can say: "Hey, this is newer, so it sure is
better than the old model!"

> sums 7 languages up, and I figured that would make a real good international
> language, but is it "better" than "Esperanto"??

I never tried it.  But I heard that Interlingua is much more
european-based as Esperanto, which is no surprise if it just adds up 7
(european?) languages.  Esperanto, on the contrary, has indeed a very
european-based vocabulary, but it's agglutanitive worth-formation
conforms well with non-european languages too.

If you want a quick win.  Try esperanto, which already has a living
community of speakers, literature, magazines, meetings.
If you want to win a crusifix(?), try Interlingua or any other of the
newly invented constructed language, which hardly survive their own
inventor.
 
> ---------------+--------------------------------
>  Tord Malmgren | InterNet: TordM@VanD.PhySto.SE | These opinions are my own,
>                | BITNet  : TordM@SESUF51        | and NOT of this department!
> ---------------+--------------------------------
>  Department of Physics, University of Stockholm

Sincerely,
Wim Slootmans
slootmans@uia.ac.be
From: jstewart@maunaloa.UUCP (Jon Stewart-Taylor)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: Re:  Kalipso-muziko [estis Plani
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:27:18 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet

[Tiu per-posxta sendajxo al Gene Ledbetter revenis "adresanto nekonata", tial
mi afisxas gxi tie cxi.  Vi rajtas legi gxin, se vi deziras]

> Bonege, Jon !  Finfine oni komencas kanti kalipson esperante. 8-)
                                                                   *
Vi forlasis vian verdan stelon!  Mi donos unu al vi, jen:          ^

Serioze, kalipso estas tre mafacila enesperantigi, pro gxia sinkopateco, kaj
la jamajka dialekto en kiu gxi kutime estas skribata.  Traduki unu vicon-
suficxe facile.  Traduki kanton- tre malfacile!  Mi ne povas traduki kaj
la senton kaj la ritmon.

   Cxu interesus vin, kune traduki unu kanton?  Eble "Matilda", aux "Viricxo
Sagxa (Virino Pli)":

   Prave! Virino pli...sagxa!
   Prave! Virino pli...sagxa!
   Prave! Virino pli...sagxa!
   Prave!...Prave!

Jon Stewart-Taylor                             maunaloa!jstewart@telenet.com
Briletu, briletu, eta stelo, mi scias precize kion vi estas.
Nuklea forno en cxielo, vi brulos gxis cindroj post nelonge.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
From: brewer@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Steve Brewer)
Subject: Translation theory and practice
Organization: W M U Centro de Sciena Edukado
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:30:45 GMT

This came over the Multi-l mailing list.  I thought the readers of
s.c.e might also find it of interest.  I don't know anything about
it, other than this, so don't ask me. :-)

              <MULTI-L@BARILVM.BITNET>

                      INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE ON

                    TRANSLATION THEORY AND PRACTICE

                         18-20 September 1993


It is proposed to hold a small, 70 participant, conference on translation
in the University of Birmingham, over the weekend of September 18-20, 1993.
All sessions will take place in Lucas House, the University's specialist
Conference Centre, where all participants will also be accommodated.
Contributions are invited on all aspects of translation theory and practice,
although in order to allow maximum accessibility all participants are asked
to present in English and to restrict their examples to English and the
Romance languages.

The conference will be organised in terms of plenary lectures, special
interest sections and workshops; there will be 20 and 40 minute slots for
papers, while workshops will last for 90 minutes.

Intending participants are asked to indicate their interest as soon as
possible because we expect strong pressure on places.  Intending
contributors are asked to submit an abstract by April 30th 1993.  All
abstracts will be refereed, and a selection of the papers will subsequently
be edited by the organising committee and published by the Edwin Mellen
Press.

Please reply by e-mail to:

COULTHRM@UK.AC.BIRMINGHAM.COMPUTER-CENTRE.IBM3090

or by snail-mail to:

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From: slootman@NAT2.UIA.AC.BE (Wim Slootmans)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: Re: LINGVAJ NOTETOJ 1992:6
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:15:34 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet

> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 13:39:24 +0200
> From: Edmund Grimley-Evans <dfkihueg@RZ.UNI-SB.DE>
> Subject: LINGVAJ NOTETOJ 1992:6
> 
> 		Lingvaj notetoj por la monato Junio
> 		===================================
> 
> (*) En ESPERANTO 1992:11 estis bonega intervjuo kun Claude PIRON, en
> kiu aperas la frazo:
> ...

Nu, edmundo, via uzo de tempo i^gas ^ciam pli kaj pli stranga.  
Lingvaj notetoj por iu monato ne plu aperas en la sekvanta monato.  Sed
ni jam kutimi^gis al tio.
Nun, tamen, vi jam aperigas lingvajn notetojn pri aperontaj revuoj.  Estas
e^c pli strange ^car temas (atentu la sensubjektan uzadon de temi ;-) pri
revuo, kiu same kiel viaj notetoj kutimas malfrue aperadi.

Wim Slootmans
slootmans@uia.ac.be
From: 72627.2647@compuserve.com (Don HARLOW)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: Re: Ankorau pseuda^joj
Date: 14 Aug 92 07:05:24 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet

To: Esperanto >INTERNET:esperanto@rand.org

Dato: 920813

Noam Mohr, pri pseuxdaj prefiksoj:

>^Sajnas ke la verkoj proponitaj de Don Horlow ne estas facile haveblaj por mi,
>sed mi trovis ion en la angla Wells vortaro.  Tie, post listo de la oficialaj
>sufiksoj, estas list de teknikaj kaj aliaj neoficialaj sufiksoj.  Tie
>la sufikso "ik" signifas kemie salon: "(chem) salt, -ic: fer/ika klorido",
>kaj ankau tie estas la sufikso "istik" kiu signifas arton, sciencon, au
>kapablon, kies faranto estas -isto: kazuistiko.  Kaj plie, tie estas la sufikso
>"i" signifante nomon de lando, deveninte (i) de tiu de rivero au urbo:
>Al^ger/io; (ii) de tiu de la lo^ganto: Angl/io.  Tiuj ^ciuj ne kongruas kun tio
>kion vi diris.  Wells menciis ke la listo ne estas tutplena, sed la implico
>^sajnas esti nur ke al ^gi mankas teknikaj terminoj.  ^Cu Wells eraras?

Ne, se oni akceptas lian averton lauxvorta kaj ne lauximplica. Wells 
ellsasas _du_ signifojn de la pseuxda sufikso -i-: tiun, kiun mi menciis, 
kaj tiun, ke oni povas per gxi krei la nomon de floro laux la nomo de 
la dedicxato aux kreinto (PAG donas ekzemplojn _dalio_ el Dahl, 
_fuksio_ el Fuchs, _kamelio_ el Camelli; evidente oni trovas similan 
uzon ankaux en la angla). Pri -IK-, la klarigo de PAG pli-malpli 
kongruas kun tiu de Wells (la kemia signifo estas versxajne klarigita 
aliloke en la libro), sed en PIV oni skribas:"Internacia suf., uzata por 
formi: 1. nomojn de arto aux tekniko, jen el la nomo de la respektiva 
isto: poetiko, stilistiko, gimnastiko, jxurnalistiko, beletristiko; jen el la 
nomo de la koncerna temo: elektroniko, metriko, metodiko, simpoliko 
ktp."

=============================================
Don HARLOW                                Redaktoro Esperanto U.S.A.
tel. (1 510) 222 0187
CompuServe [72627,2647]
Internet 72627.2647@compuserve.com

"To discipline Esperantists is to eat soup with chopsticks."
                                                          Confucius
=============================================
From: slootman@EVS2.UIA.AC.BE (Wim Slootmans)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: Re: Vir- and -in-
Date: 19 Aug 92 07:59:12 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet

>>Mia $0.02 worth:
>>
>>	I really, really like the idea of having a masculine suffix
>>(preferably 'icx').
> 
> 	Jes, ankau placxas al mi "icx".  Gxi sone similas al -cxjo.
> 	-njo/ino kaj -cxjo/icxo havas memoreblan simetrion:
> 	patrino/panjo	patricxo/pacxjo


Kvankam sxajnas al mi ke multaj legantoj de cxi tiu listo subtenas
la ideon, mi preskaux neniam vidas gxin uzata.  Se ideo restas ideo, oni
neniam uzos gxin,  kaj oni povos pridiskuti gxin senfine.  Do mia konsulto
al la legantaro estas ke vi ekuzu la suffikson en revuoj, poemoj kaj
aliaj verkoj!  
Kial oni cxiam pridiskutas tiajn ajxojn cxi tie, anstataux ekuzu gxin.
Se la ideo vere estus bona, aliaj homoj transprenus gxin.  Se gxi ne
estus bona, gxi mortus silente.  Do neniu diskuto necesas.

Mi mem ne kontrauxas la ideon pri la uzo de `-icx'.  Sed estos malfacile
por mi ekuzi gxin nun, cxar mi ne lernis gxin kiam mi lernis esperanton
kaj tial gxi aspektas iomete stranga al la lingvo.  Tamen mi ne atakus
la uzantojn de `icx'.
 
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| Wim Slootmans       elektrona posxto: slootmans@uia.ac.be       |
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| Kritikistoj pri Esperanto uzu ne alian lingvon ol la Esperanta. |
| Iu, kiu ne prenas la tempon por lerni Esperanton,               |
| ne povas gxuste prijugxi la praktikan valoron de Esperanto.     |
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
From: cigno@sgi.com (Kevin Walsh)
Subject: estis Re: Ido-Vivo, nun amindumaj bestoj
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 16:38:45 GMT

In article <9208170902.AA13280@evs2.uia.ac.be> slootman@EVS2.UIA.AC.BE (Wim Slootmans) writes:
 ...
>Yep, and how come the monster of Loch Ness is coming into the papers
>every year.
>
	Eble vi preferus skribi "Yes, and why does the Loch Ness monster
	appear in newspaper articles every year."

	La frazo "is coming into" signifas (en neformala Angla) "sxpruci 
	spermon sur/en".  Cxar "yep" estas neformala, mi unue komprenis 
	vian frazon tiel (kaj mi gxojis por Nessie, kiu estas tia maljunulo
	ke mi suprizis audi pri tia ebleco).  


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From: kuncej@mdceng.UUCP (Jeffrey J. Kunce)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: Re: Ido-Vivo, nun amindumaj bestoj
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:07:58 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet

Kevin Walsh (cigno@sgi.com) writes: 
>In article <9208170902.AA13280@evs2.uia.ac.be> slootman@EVS2.UIA.AC.BE 
>(Wim Slootmans) writes:
> ...
>>Yep, and how come the monster of Loch Ness is coming into the papers
>>every year.
..
>        La frazo "is coming into" signifas (en neformala Angla) "sxpruci
>        spermon sur/en". 

Kevin, what's the point here? Are you really concerened about misunderstanding, 
or are you trying to embarass someone? If you're just trying to inject some
humor into the thread, fine - it's cute. But in my opinion, it's in bad taste
to poke fun at a [perceived] language slip in a multi-lingual group like s.c.e.,
especially in a manner which could be seen as humiliating.

  --Jeff     kuncej@mocons.gov

P.S. - If the above really is your first interpretation of "coming into",
maybe you need to find a friend to help you relieve some of that tension. :-) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
From: tordm@vana (Tord Malmgren)
Subject: Interlingua?
Reply-To: TordM@VanD.PhySto.SE
Organization: Department of Physics, University of Stockholm -- Sweden
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:17:14 GMT


 hello! I'm curious as to know whether there's an interrest in "Interlingua"??
As I've got it, "Volapyk" was invented in 1879, and "Esperanto" in 1887,
and I figured that is a bit old... "Interlingua" was invented in 1951, and
sums 7 languages up, and I figured that would make a real good international
language, but is it "better" than "Esperanto"??




---------------+--------------------------------
 Tord Malmgren | InterNet: TordM@VanD.PhySto.SE | These opinions are my own,
               | BITNet  : TordM@SESUF51        | and NOT of this department!
---------------+--------------------------------
 Department of Physics, University of Stockholm
From: cortese@skid.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: Re: [Anglolingvo/English] easy to learn English?
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:27:46 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <1992Aug13.121023.3286@sol.cs.wmich.edu> brewer@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Steve Brewer) writes:
>In article <2A89A85E.17288@noiro.acs.uci.edu> cortese@skid.ps.uci.edu 
>(Janis Maria Cortese) writes (in slightly edited form):
>>
>>>>And I'd rather not speak a language that classifies my mom as a female
>>>>father, thank you.
>>I do not think I am being unjust.  My mom is my mom, not my Mrs. Dad.
>>My dad is my dad, not some word kernel.  
>>Anyhow, I don't like a language that relegates an entire section of
>>humanity to a suffix.  
>
>English is probably as sexist as Esperanto, yet you speak it.  English
>relegates femaleness to a suffix just like Esperanto does -- it just
>doesn't do it consistently. 

I don't have much choice there, do I?  English is sexist because it has
built on a sexist history.  Eo doesn't have that excuse.  

>Furthermore, words have only the meanings that we associate with them --
>they don't have any inherent meaning at all.  If you're in great danger
>of seeing your dad as a 'word kernel,' then perhaps Esperanto is too
>much for you handle.  This doesn't seem like an excessive danger for most 
>people, however.

Excuse me while I wipe the tears of laughter from my eyes.  Language has
in it the reality of the creator -- and Eo HAS a creator, unlike other
natural languages.  And, yes, I'm afraid it does irritate people.  "Most
people" regard Eo with some smug amusement (not necessarily deserved but
true), and in my ling classes, when the students are introduced to the
language, students unilaterally dislike the "patrino/fratino"
designation.  UNILATERALLY.  And the female students aren't pleasant
about it.

>Besides, 'patrino' and 'panjo' don't have anything to do with Mrs. Dad.
>I think you're being intentionally obtuse about the issue.  I've seen
>other postings that you've written where you didn't find a need to distort
>issues to such an extent.

Maybe that's a good indicator that I'm not distorting now.  Read the Eo
textbook that everyone uses to learn the language.  "Patro" means
father, and the -in- suffix is specifically called the feminizing
suffix.  "Patrino" is pretty obviously then "female-father."

Regards,
Janis C.
From: latta@scam.berkeley.edu (Craig R. Latta)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: Sexism in Esperanto (Was: Re: [Anglolingvo/English] easy to learn English?)
Date: 14 Aug 92 10:59:38
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In-reply-to: pcj1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu's message of Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:01:15 GMT



	Janis Maria Cortese (cortese@skid.ps.uci.edu) writes:

> Read the Eo textbook that everyone uses to learn the language.
> "Patro" means father, and the -in- suffix is specifically called the
> feminizing suffix.  "Patrino" is pretty obviously then
> "female-father."

	No, no, no! Tag me as "politically correct" (or even just
"wrong") if you like, but I use "patro" to mean "parent", "virpatro"
for "father", and "patrino" for "mother". Complete symmetry is
possible, and I use it, even if others haven't in the past (including,
I suppose the creator of the language).
	But then, I'm just a novice, so what do I know (I certainly
don't have the patience to translate this into Esperanto at the
moment).


-C





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From: jc@minya.UUCP (John Chambers)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: Re: TOPICS: An UU esperanto group has been created
Date: 19 Aug 92 04:18:36 GMT

In article <1992Aug2.103724.3201@nntp.hut.fi>, jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
> A group for learning Esperanto has been created in the UU (Usenet
> University) hierarchy (currently part of alt).  The group name is
> alt.uu.lang.esperanto.misc.

Kie oni trovas alt.uu.*?  Mi estas proksima al Boston...
From: DWOLFF@RES-C4.PRIME.COM
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: Kion signifas "Bambi"? :-)
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:10:47 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet

Tiu c^i listo bezonas ion pli amuzan, do jen elc^erpaj^o de la majo
"Esperanto" gazeto (p. 90).  Tio estas la "Jarraporto de UEA" numero.

JUNULARA SEKCIO:

NOVA ESTRARO NE BAMBAS SED PLANAS

(informo pri progreso, estraroj, oficejo, volontuloj, membroj, kaj:)

La decidon el 1990, pri "La Bamba" kiel oficiala himno de TEJO, nuligis
la komitato en Karlskoga.
--

David Wolff

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From: mohr@RSUAP1.NRL.NAVY.MIL (Noam Mohr)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: Pseuda^joj
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:13:28 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet



Mi volas peti pardonon de Don Harlow pro mia eraro.  Mi ^sajne ne
^guste komprenis.  ^Cu oni do povas krei terminojn kiel "re^gio"
kaj "profesorio" ktp?  Mi suspektas ke la diferenco inter mia
mesa^go kaj tiu de Don Harlow estas tue semantika, kaj ke vere tiuj
"pseudaj" "neoficialaj" sufiksoj estas tiaj nur lau^sajne, kiel ili
estas en aliaj lingvoj, kaj ne sufiksoj en la sento de la Esperantaj
sufiksoj.  Sed mi devas legi la proponitajn a^jojn antau ol mi scias.
Kaj mi konas tiun signifon de "mago," vere tion mi intencis.  Sed ne
gravas.  Mi devas foriri tuj, ho!

Noam Mohr
From: PRDESENV@orion.cpqd.ansp.br (Claudio Max)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: Re: easy to learn English?
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:05:00 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet

>       There is another use of the "-in" suffix that I find very strange
>and would like to see explained: the word "amikino" used to mean "girlfriend"
>in the same sense as in English.  This isn't just a "female friend", but a
>"female friend with whom one is having a very close (possibly sexual)
>relationship".


NE! Atentu: mi havas kelkaj amikinojn sed nur unu amindumantino.
From: slootman@NATS.UIA.AC.BE (Wim Slootmans)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: for MARTIN FUZZEY only.
Date: 21 Aug 92 09:39:31 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet


Bonvolu pardoni min ke mi e-po^stas ^ci tiun mesa^gon en s.c.e.

Please forgive mi for posting this in s.c.e.

> Hello, sorry it's been such a long time since
> you've heard from me but, well, a lot has been
> happening. Anyway, the machine I used to use
> for mail (FRECP12.BITNET) has now been shut
> down for the summer. I was up to lesson 5 so
> do you think you could resend this lesson to
> my new address (fuzzey@dde_nord.frmy.bull.fr)
> 
> Thanks very much.
>  Martin Fuzzey

Dear Martin,

Although I tried several times at the address I gave you, I can NOT
reach you at this new address.   Please contact me and/or the
FEC-coordinator again

Thanks,

Wim Slootmans
slootmans@uia.ac.be
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
From: chungdan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Zhong Qi Iao (Daniel))
Subject: [seks-malsimetrio] -in? / [vorto] kio estas "girl/boy-friend"
Followup-To: soc.culture.esperanto,sci.lang
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: inet
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 23:33:30 GMT


     C^i tiu temo surfacig^as de tempo al tempo.  S^atas al mi uzi
"-ic^o" kune kun "-ino".  La alfikso "-ic^o" jam proponig^is (ne de
mi), kaj poste mi sekvis.

     Neniu diskutas pri la "unu" vi kaj la "pluraj" vi (plivi?).

     Mi ankorau' serc^as la vortojn, kiuj sam-signifas al la
nun-tempaj "boyfriend" (ic^-seksa ulo tia, kiu havas tre prosiman
emocian rilaton [en Eu'rop-Amerikaj kulturoj, eble seksan] rilaton al vi)
kaj "girlfriend".  Aliokaze, kial mi referas (?) al mia "knabin-amiko" (?)
en Esperanto?

					*Zhong* Qi-Iao (s-r[ic^]o)
From: dchung@efi.com (Daniel Chung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: Re:  [koresponda kurso] manko en koresponda kurso Date: 19 Aug 92 18:08:28 GMT From: dchung@efi.com  (Daniel Chung)
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:35:33 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet

Ronald B. Harvey kaj retanoj!

     En iu "La Kancerkliniko" aperas la vorto "junulic^o".

					*Zhong* Qi-Iao, Usono
From: latta@scam.berkeley.edu (Craig R. Latta)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: Re: Recalled for Defects
Date: 16 Aug 92 21:48:49
Organization: Experimental Computing Facility (XCF)
Distribution: world
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In-reply-to: 72627.2647@compuserve.com's message of 16 Aug 92 22:15:47 GMT



	Don Harlow (72627.2647@compuserve.com) writes (I think):

> ... the "Esperanto Defects" posting, in its first day of existence on
> s.c.e., has aroused all the violent reaction one might expect from a
> torpid sloth.

	Arf! Grrrr. Growl.

	With all the forwarded messages, misquotations, dead and
living languages, and conspiracy theories, I can't helping of Italo
Calvino's "If On a Winter's Night a Traveler" when I read this
newsgroup. 

	I love it.


-C

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
From: brewer@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Steve Brewer)
Subject: Esperantaj Dokumentoj troveblaj per ERIC
Organization: W M U Centro de Scienca Edukado
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:08:24 GMT

] From 72627.2647@compuserve.com Sun Aug 16 16:23:56 1992
] 
] La artikolo aperis, i.a., en la "Nova Esperanta Krestomatio" de 
] William Auld. Mi opinias, ke gxi ankaux estis parto de la serio 
] "Esperanto-Dokumentoj". 

Se ^gi vere estas unu el la Esperantaj Dokumentoj povas esti ke ^gi
troveblas ene de la ERIC dokumentoj.  Nia universitata biblioteko
havas grandan aron da mikro-filmoj kiuj enhavas la tutan ERIC
dokumentaro kaj ili estas katalogitaj komputatore.  Se vi lo^gas
a^u laboras apud a^u ^ce universitato, kontrolu unue tie por tiu
dokumento.

Bonan sorton, Kevin!

-- 
Steven D. Brewer  brewer@cs.wmich.edu     ****     99brewer@lab.cc.wmich.edu
                  Center for Science Education,  Western Michigan University
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