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From: jhill@sierra.com (Julie Hill)
Subject: Re: RE: Saying Goodbye to an Old Friend
Organization: Sierra Geophysics Inc.,  Kirkland, Wa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:37:09 GMT

Steve writes:
>
>One more note:  We recently attended our 10 year high school reunion.
>We have no kids and I was SURE that everyone there would have oodles
>of pictures of theirs.  I came equiped with two wallet size pictures of
>Saavik and when others started in on the "look at her holding teddy,
>this is her at the lake, here she is with Grandma", I whipped out a
>picture of my "little girl" and did the same.  Some thought it humerous,
>others thought me strange - which is OK.
>
>By the way, my wife was careful to use a studio that specialized in pet
>photography.  
>
>-- 
>Steve Anastasi	
>smanastasi@mmm.com
>St. Paul, Minnesota

Yesterday I had brunch with some cousins that I hadn't seen in about 15 years.
I HAD to bring pictures of my 'girls' to show them.  When we happened to pass
a dog on the street, they made a comment about the dog.  I used that as an
opener to show them the pictures.  I think they thought I was rather strange,
too.  Especially because it was a Santa shot and the girls both had big,
bright red bows around their necks.  

Julie
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: srlee@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen R Lee)
Subject: Re: Pig Ears, Choo-Hooves, or Rawhide
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:38:56 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.153117.2294@inland.com> walls@inland.com writes:
>Hello out there in network land. I have another question for all of you.
>What are your thoughts and opinions on giving your dog pig ears, choo-hooves,
>or rawhide ad treats?? I realize pig ears are more expensive than choo-hooves.
>Choo-hooves are less expensive than rawhide, depending on what size you get.
>Are any of these treats high in calories?(I have an overweight dach/terr.mix)
>Please let me know what treats you give your dogs and what you would recommend.
>Thanks Again!! 
>Bonnie 

I do not give my dogs choo-hooves.  In my opinion, they can splinter and
cause gum injuries or gastric upsets (or even perforate the intestine).
In addition, they do nothing *for* the dog's teeth and gums (in my opinion).
Therefore, I do not give them to my dogs.  For the same reasons, I do not
give *real* bones to my dogs either.

I don't like rawhide either, mainly becuase my dogs can be a little overzealous
at times and try and eat large chunks of it, which they can either choke on
or will swell in thier bellies again causing gastric upsets.  I do occasionally
give rawhide, but only in the cylindrical geometry, since they typically chew
on those such that no large peices get broken off.  I have to watch them closely
when they get short, however.  Sometimes I will give them the "pressed" rawhide,
simply because they can immediately chew and eat them without trouble.  As with
the hooves and bones, rawhide does nothing for the teeth and gums either.

Pigs ears?  Never used them/heard of them.  I won't give them to my dogs, however,
even if I do start seeing them.

My dogs get all they Nylabones they can chew, however (and they chew a lot).
I like the Nylabones because (1) the dogs love them; (2) they are very good 
for the dogs teeth; (3) they can last a long time; (4) they are harmless.  I
have *never* had my dog's teeth cleaned, and my veterinarian always comments
on the dog's clean teeth during examinations.  The Nylabones help clean the
teeth.  Whenever I break out new ones, the dogs all sit around me and look
"perky", asking for their treats.  I mean, it is like I am giving them a
real bone.  They just love them.  I also give them bodabones.  They love these
as well, and I think these also help clean the teeth.  I do have to watch them
when they really start tearing them up, though, as they seem to like to eat the
strings.  I throw them away when they get that frayed.  I buy both of these
things mail order by the dozens (its cheaper that way).

Finally, I might suggest you make your own cookies.  I have a pasta machine, and
I make them cookies out of flour and water.  No sugar or anything else.  They make
a nice occasional treat for my pack, and they are easy to do and low cal.

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: hckrus01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Irregular seasons
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:37:16 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville


Since questions about when to breed have arisen on the newsgroup, I thought I'd
throw out my own question.  I've been waiting on a pick female from an Irish
setter litter -- the breeder is in Southern California (I'm in Kentucky), she
bred my 11 year old champion Irish, and the pedigree on this litter looks
outstanding.

The problem is that the prospective mother of the litter hasn't gone into heat
yet!  I'm not sure how old she is (2?), tho I know she's a mature dog.  This
would be her second season.  She was supposed to go into heat in June and is
fine physically.  Pat (the breeder) is confident that this dog will come into
season -- it's just that it's only here 2nd season, so it's kind of
unpredictable.

Does that sound right?

My theory is that Julie (the mom) knows that I'm not making a lot of progress
on my dissertation, so she's waiting to get pregnant until she knows that I'm
getting close to done and will be able to devote all my non-teaching time to
the puppy!  (Ok, that's kind of an ego-centric theory)


Holly Kruse
hckrus01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Black GSDs
Date: 10 Sep 1992 19:35:04 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

In article <1992Sep9.191451.13874@cas.org> sla54@cas.org (Sandra Augustine)
writes:
>	Am I following this correctly - the breeder says that the dog has
>conformation that "wasn't right" AND she/he is suggesting that the dog
>could/should be used as a stud dog? If the conformation isn't "right", it
seems
>to me that the dog should be sold on a spray/neuter contract basis rather than
>as a potential stud dog!

A lot of stupid people think that black GSDs are "more vicious" than other
colors. An unscrupulous owner could make money with a black stud breeding
junkyard dogs.

David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: posie@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (donald.e.church)
Subject: Adopt a Greyhound
Keywords: Greyhound Rescue
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:17:36 GMT


> 		In my experience with the MD Greyhound rescue group, I've
> 		never seen a bad-tempered dog.  GPA carefully screens the
> 		dogs they rescue; carefully screens the prospective owners;
> 		carefully matches a dog to a family, and offers support after
> 		the dog is placed if you need help for any reason.  I wouldn't
> 		trade my two for any reason, and I doubt we will ever have any
> 		breed besides a Greyhound.
> 
> > 
> > Naturally, I'll summarize and post responses received by e-mail.
> > 
> > THanks,
> > 
> > -brent
> > 
> > -- 
> > Brent Williams/Cooperative Solutions Inc., San Jose CA   (408) 377-0300
> > brentw@coopsol.com
> > Cooperative Solutions makes Ellipse, a development environment for
> > industrial strength graphical client/server business applications.
> 
> 
> 	I'm glad to see you're doing your homework, trying to figure out 
> which breed is best for you.  I hope you'll at least consider a Greyhound,
> because it seems like the breed would fit your criteria.  If you (or anyone 
> else) would like more information, feel free to email me and I'll be glad to 
> tell you all you want to know.  Your local GPA would willingly arrange for you
> to meet some Greyhounds face to face, and there (unfortunately) are THOUSANDS 
> to choose from each year, as their racing career ends.  
> 
> 			*	*	*	*	*
> 					*
> 	Sharon Toolan			*	My opinions are my own;
> 	toolan@stsci.edu		*	no one else would want them.
> 					*
> 			*	*	*	*	*
> 
> 	"Mom" to Amber (8 yr. old retired racing Greyhound)
> 	 and Topaz (3 yr. old retired racing Greyhound)
> 
> 			Make a fast friend--adopt a Greyhound!
> 
> 

BRAVO BRENT AND SHARON!!!

I read with interest this article on the plight of the
racing greyhound in this country when it's "useful" days
are over.  It is a real shame what happens to this gentle
animal and I second your recommendation to adopt one as a
pet.

When my 12 year old Lab/Rot mix passes on I will be
seriously considering a greyhound to join forces with my
4 Norfolk Terriers!

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From: crs@beta.lanl.gov (Charlie Sorsby)
Subject: Re: Shutterbugs
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:01:49 GMT

In article <92254.124728NAT@psuvm.psu.edu> patty mulkeen <NAT@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
=      I have a question for all the folks who take lots of pictures
= of their dogs.  How do you get the dog to look happy for the
= camera?  When I take pictures of my lab/golden mix, he gets a very
= sad look on his face and his tail  droops as soon as I look through
= the camera.  It's pretty pitiful, certainly not what I want to capture
= on film!  Any hints would be appreciated (posted or e-mailed, I check
= this newsgroup pretty frequently).  Thanks!

I'm inclined to believe that dogs are naturally perverse but very
perceptive about cameras.  As soon as I look through a camera they
come running--right up to my feet.  Pups are particularly
perceptive--they can be sound asleep on the floor and ignore
anything I do--until I pick up the camera.  You guessed it.  Before
I can even think about focussing, there they are at my feet,
looking up, "What's that, Pap?"  It's arguable whether they're
worse than kids but I think they are...


-- 
Best,

Charlie "Older than dirt" Sorsby				"I'm the NRA!"
	  crs@lanl.gov
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Subject: Re: non-competitive shows (was Re: Show points and the )
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 22:00:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.141705.12694@newshost.lanl.gov>
    crs@beta.lanl.gov (Charlie Sorsby) writes:
 
>
>In article <16854802E.X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu> X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:
>=
>= See?  This is what I was talking about when I suggested a non-
>= competitive conformation ring.  It just wouldn't happen.
>=
>I guess some articles have expired here before I got to read them--
>I'm way behind in my reading--I seem to have missed (or haven't yet
>reached) the discussion of noncompetitive conformation shows.
>
>Personally, I think that is a good idea--not to supplant, but to
>supplement, the competitive shows, very much as the AKC Hunting
>Tests supplement Field Trials.
 
 
Yes.  That is what I meant, but didn't say.
 
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From: llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu (Linda Macdonald)
Subject: Re: Saying Goodbye to an Old Friend
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:36:24 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Sep9.172452.25329@pixel.kodak.com> rhuls@liebnitz.ssd.kodak.com (Robbin Huls) writes:
>In article <1992Sep4.203209.6126@sequent.com> schalene@sequent.com (Schalene Dagutis) writes:
>>For all of you out there with healthy, vibrant pets......please take
>>plenty of pictures.  They'll get you through some tough times down the
>>road.  They bring back memories and funny things you can remember
>>instead of when you had to say goodbye.
>
>Yes, I sat with my pictures of *all* my old dogs when my last one died.
>It was comforting somehow.  I have videos of Kelsey!

I just wanted to say thanks for this advice.  It seems natural to take
pictures of a new puppy, but I also have a nine-year old and these
comments got me to thinking, so I got out all the pictures I have of
him and have got them all arranged in a photo album.  I also loaded
my camera with film so I will be ready and waiting to get some new
pictures in the months ahead.

Thanks again,

Linda Mac (llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu)
From: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dog in Heat, Any suggestions
Date: 11 Sep 92 08:12:00 GMT
Reply-To: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer)
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525

TO: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca

VV>Beverly Novak writes:


VV>PLEASE lock her up in the garage, or in the laundry room or in her crate!
VV>Even if you find a way to prevent HER from removing her undies, you can't
VV>do a thing about the male dog that decides to jump the fence to get to her,
VV>and he's not going to be stoped for long by a bit of cloth, dogs can be
VV>very resourceful! :) Those sanitary straps, by the way, are NOT intended to
VV>prevent pregnancy, but to keep an indoor dog from bleeding all over the
VV>carpets.

The Garage is not a good option unless it is a metal type door. Several
years ago my GSD was in season, I put her in the garage while I was
going to run some errands, as I did not want her on the furniture. When
I came back a couple of hours later, a little dog and I mean little not
more than 10 - 15 lbs had eaten a hole through my garage door in order
to get to her, which he did! We had to get her a mismate shot, then a
couple of weeks later she became ill and had a discharge. She ended up
with Bruculosis and Pyametria and we had to have her spayed. A horny
lil' male dog will do what he has to, in order to get to a bitch in
season!! Keep the dog in a crate, in the house unless you can surpervise
her.
Kathleen.Brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us
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From: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Suggestions for Show Awards
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:40:03 GMT
Reply-To: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH

In article <1992Sep13.004644.843@news.unomaha.edu> massey@cwis.unomaha.edu
(Dana Massey) writes:
>Perhaps some of you have seen some unique and nice awards at
>dog shows --something besides the traditional choices of
>silver bonbon dishes and coffee mugs with the breed picture
>on the mug....any ideas, resources, etc would be GREATLY
>appreciated.
>

Here are some of the more interesting trophies I've seen at all-breed shows:
Director Chair with kennel club name & "win" stenciled on back
Ice Chest (large or "personal" size)
Filled Picnic Hamper
Travel alarm clock
6-foot cotton web lead with kennel club name imprinted
Camera bag (to use as ring-side grooming bag)
Pewter dishes, plates, boxes, etc
Gift certificate of free portait setting with show photographer
$20-50 gift certificate for entry fees with show superintendent (MB-F or
Sleeper or Onofrio...whoever is closest)
Wind sock with kennel club logo (or breed profile)
Breed pennant  (fits on top of car radio antenna)
Executive Planner (week-at-a-glance calendar for next year in 8 x 10 spiral
bound format)

Costs for above items range from $1.00 each to $50+

Hope this helps generate some ideas!
*************************************
Marget Johnson

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From: bws20@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Brian W Simmons)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: non-competitive shows (was Re: Show points and the )
Date: 6 Sep 92 01:32:43 GMT
Reply-To: bws20@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Brian W Simmons)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article: <5124.83.uupcb@cutting.hou.tx.us>
Kathleen Brewer wrote:

******************************** inclusion ******************************

CB>See?  This is what I was talking about when I suggested a non-
CB>competitive conformation ring.  It just wouldn't happen.

What would be the point? Why would we even bother to show our dogs, if
there was no chance of winning? If we just want to show people our dog,
we could go to the park.
As I have said before there is good and bad in anything you do,
including dog shows. Fortunatly, there are more good people showing dogs
than there are bad!

Kathleen.Brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us
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Kathleen,
 for the sake of argument, the point would be to evaluate the breeding
potential of the dogs based on their conformation.  This is what
conformation shows are supposed to be about, not about some *person*
winning!  It shouldn't be about *winning*, it should be about which dog
from which breeder best conforms to the standard, or which dogs most
closely adhere to the standard and are therefore presumed suitable--from
a conformation standpoint-- for breeding.  Being human, we seem always to
take practical goals and _pervert_ them to games which sometimes lose
sight of their practical origins.

bws
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: dnoll@pbs.org
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: pit bull?
Date: 4 Sep 92 11:45:09 EDT
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA


Please excuse my ignorance here.
Can somebody kindly explain to me the difference 
between a Pit Bull and a Staffordshire Terrier.

Thanks you,
  --diana
From: ellie@slumber.sybase.com (Ellen Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Help on choosing a family dog
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:09:30 GMT
Distribution: na

Since I've been taking our puppy to the local dog-park almost everyday,
I've seen more greyhounds lately. I use to considere them, well, 
basically funny-looking. But seeing them in the park, I've come to
admire them more. Every so often one will shoot across the park at
top speed with several other delighted dogs vainly trailing behind
it. It's a pretty joyous scene. Reading Sharon Toolan's description
of adopted racing greyhounds--they sound wonderful. The question that
comes to my mind though, is how much of that exercise do they need?
Our australian shepherd puppy loves to run, but she's happy with
lots (and lots) of little sprints, and if she can't get those, even a
good wrasslin' session with another puppy will satisfy her. But it
seems like a greyhound must *need* to stretch those legs pretty 
frequently?

The person who originally posted asking about the family dog recommendations
had a lot of good ideas about what they needed, but didn't mention how
much time they could devote to exercise. A lot of the books I read while
I was choosing a puppy (I knew I was getting an aussie--family tradition--
which one was the question) mentioned that what's often described as
"hyperactivity" in dogs is often just "need for proper exercise." I am so
grateful for Point Isabel dog park! Lucy is a very bright and good-
natured pup, and she's much calmer and more contented on the days we
take her there for a thorough romp.

And speaking of books, I know the poster mentioned that they'd been
doing their homework, but just in case it's escaped their notice, I
gotta mention both of the Monks of New Skete's books: "How to Be Your
Dog's Best Friend" and "The Art of Raising a Puppy." Both good to read
*before* you bring the puppy home. (The stereotype of "the housewife"
that runs through these books is a little tiresome...but, they're
monks.) These books have made me a better dog owner, and I've lived
with dogs almost all of my life.

-ellie
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: rhuls@liebnitz.ssd.kodak.com (Robbin Huls)
Subject: Re: Alpha role instead of alpha roll?
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 19:23:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.163044.22302@news.nd.edu> mikeb@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu (Michael George Buening) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.232059.5125@megatek.com> megatek!fritzz@uunet.uu.net writes:
>>In article <1992Sep3.215322.29105@macc.wisc.edu>
>>heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>>
>>>  You're looking at this the wrong way.  It shouldn't matter what the 
>>>  dog thinks - you *are* alpha (aren't you?).  It's just a matter of 
>>>  showing the dog that.  If the dog thinks he's alpha it's probably 
>>>  because you're not.
>>
>>I like this. I often see alpha rolls suggested as solutions to
>>obedience problems. While they are a useful tool (like choke
>>collars) they can be misused.
>[Good info removed for space]
>	
>	I couldn't agree more with Friedrich.  The alpha roll is a very
>useful tool (has been for me), but as the people who taught me obedience
>training for my dog pointed out over and over again, you must know what
>your dog means by his/her actions.

Is someone saving this for a FAQ?  This thread has been full of great
information!  Thanks everyone!!
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: geoff@ugc.uucp (Geoff Coleman)
Subject: Re: Show points and the mass of confusion
Organization: UGC Consulting Ltd.
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 03:48:08 GMT

>> KB>>
>> KB>>    - To up the number of entries so as to help increase the number of
>> KB>>      points available to be won.
>> KB>>

	^^^^^^^
		You mean like the guy who showed up with his DEAD Chow
	    dog so that his friend could get the extra point he needed to
	    finish at the show.
		The night befor the show the guy's chow died. So he froze
	    him in a stacked position walked into the ring with him and set him
	    down. He then told the judge that his dog wasn't feeling well 
	    picked him up and left. But because he was in the ring he was 
	    counted in the points calculation.


Geoff Coleman
From: michael.hagerty@spacebbs.com (Michael Hagerty) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Climbing Dog -- Please He
Date: 6 Sep 92 07:51:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193
Reply-To: michael.hagerty@spacebbs.com (Michael Hagerty) 

MC. I'm looking for pointers (pun intended) from folks who have successfully
MC. confined climbing dogs.

what we've found to work is running a strand of electric fence, the kind
they sell at feed and hardware stores, around the top of the current fence.
You need standoffs to separate it from the fence (both physically and
electrically).  We have used the yellow polypropolyne and copper strand
stuff with great success.  For a digging dog, we put a similar strand of
the stuff around the inside of the bottom of the fence, about 3" off the
ground.  Worked great!

I would suggest one of the smaller units as you probably don't have the
run requiring a big one.  Mind you that these are capacitive discharge
devices; the fence is never directly connected to line voltage.

With the yellow poly/copper string, there seems to be an occasional popping
sound from the discharge of the capacitor.  This serves as more than
adequate warning, once the dog has been stung by it.

Now, if you have a jumping dog, one which can clear the fence without
touching it, this will not help at all..   You just need a taller fence.

Regards, Mikey
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: Barbara S Withem <bwithem@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: test
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:17:16 GMT
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From: kmoser@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Kathy_Moser)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:55:43 GMT
Subject: Re: how bad is chocolate for dogs?
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID