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From: johnson@wrs.com (David Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: brain damaged drivers
Date: 14 Apr 92 02:25:42 GMT
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.

sgccmjw@citec.oz.au (Mark Wilton 23313) writes:

>I was just wondering why there are so many BAD drivers in Queensland
>  I couldnt help thinking the following

>  1) Like why didnt he just change lanes and go (it wasnt crowded)

>  3) This guy is a brain damaged motorcyclist (or probably will be soon
>     when he hits something at about 130Km/h)
  
Number 1: The attitude, "Why didn't he just change lanes and go
	  (it wasn't crowded) is unwaranted. If someone else, be it 
	  car, bike, racoon, or the space-shuttle, is going faster than
	  you, then *YOU* should move.

Number 2: "How fast should one go on a bike in the rain at night?"
	  As fast as he wants to go. He's not hurting *YOU*!         

Number 3: "This guy is a brain damaged motorcyclist (or probably will be
	  soon when he hits something at about 130Km/h." 
	  That's right! And is none of your business to dictate to him,
	  or any other motorist how fast they should drive. If he does
	  deep-six himself, it's no skin off your nose. Maybe in your 
	  car at the speep you were going, you were at *YOUR* limit, but
	  that doesn't mean that you get to play road-patrol and block 
	  his route by going slow in the fast lane; That is *STUPID*
	  driving indeed!!!


>DAVE    

johnson@WRS.COM

92% of Americans think they are above average drivers.
From: rinehart@aramis.rutgers.edu (Mark J. Rinehart)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: brain damaged drivers
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:07:12 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Apr15.231532.9720@scott.skidmore.edu> jdrout@scott.skidmore.edu (jonathan drout) writes:

> The right of way also falls to the person on the rotary in 
> 
> New Jersey

The *circles* in NJ are fast becoming history - thankfully. Seeing as
how at least 50% of the folks I've seen have no clue about how to
drive around a circle, this is a welcome move by the DOT. They are
making all circles into either an overpass/underpass intersection, or
they're straightening them out and putting in traffic signals. 

fyi, at all circles still in existence in NJ, everybody has the right
of way when entering and proceeding around a circle, according to a
police officer I spoke to after being in an accident in a circle.


Mark
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From: matt@world.std.com (Matt Saucier)
Subject: Re: Best Roads in NE?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
	<1992Mar31.202827.3930@eff.org> <1992Apr8.134405.21258@pictel.com>
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:36:39 GMT

>>>Route 127 along the coast into Gloucester and Rockport.  This road is
>>>excellent for foliage when in season, and has almost no traffic if you
>>>pick the right time.

True... Neat road... Be sure to start along 127 down in Beverly, and go 
up to Rockport....  Great fun, nice curves, especially when there is no
traffic...  There was some car commercial (I forget the make/model, some
sports sedan, Sterling?) that was filmed along 127 in Beverly Farms...
For good reason;  It's my favorite bit of road on the north-shore.

If you're going along 127, Manchester to Rockport, instead of
following it all the way, try going a bit east and take Hesperus
Ave through Magnolia... It breaks off of 127 and then joins back up
with 127, and is much more fun than the stretch of 127 you bypass...

>During the summer, on the other hand, "tourists" pack every available
>road as long as the sun is out, and the drawbridge on 127 in Gloucester
>is perpetually "up" to let boats through.  In this case, you can take
>Route 133 to 128N to get around it.  Avoid driving *anywhere* near
>Gloucester and Rockport during tourist season, because it could take
>all day to get through.

You're not kidding!!!   Actually I've found (PROVEN) that I can ride
my bicycle from Magnolia (southern part of Gloucester) to Rockport
faster than a car can make it if 127 is followed.  (Please note that I
was not a tourist!!! I lived in Magnolia for 7 years...)   Do youself
a favor and stay away from Cape Ann in the summer, if you're there to
drive and not sight-see.

Happy motoring!

Matt



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Subject: Lamborghini Islero GIF Posted
From: Philip_Martelli@kcbbs.gen.nz (Philip Martelli)
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:28:55 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

...and along the same lines, has anyone here heard of the Lamborghini 
Bravo??
 
(To settle an ongoing dispute as to it's existance!)

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From: gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com (Greg Cagle)
Subject: Re: Lasar radar again *sigh* (was Re: IRD?...Infra-Red-Detector?)
Originator: gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:13:44 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics 
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 


According to Car and Driver, Cincinatti Microwave has a working
prototype of a laser detector, but doesn't plan to bring it
to market.

- Greg
-- 
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Mentor Graphics          
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Subject: Re: Rolling a car, general questions
From: Philip_Martelli@kcbbs.gen.nz (Philip Martelli)
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:41:59 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

One thing I learnt the hard way, was to disregard the recommended tyre 
pressures (usually about 26psi) and to pump 'em up to about 30-32. Any 
less any A> they wear faster, and B> they begin to barrel on hard cornering. 
Contrary to popular opinion, it's the underinflated tyres that blow..
From: randy@rls.UUCP (Randall L. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Stereotypical frustrating drivers
Date: 11 Apr 92 17:28:14 GMT
Organization: The Internet

dpeterso@mipos2.intel.com (David Peterson) writes:
> bill@Celestial.COM (Bill Campbell) writes:
>> How 'bout the idiot who pulls up to the intersection, waits for
>> the light to change, then turns on the left turn signal.  For
>> that matter any person who signals less than a block from where
>> they're going to turn.

Yea, just what I thought.  Bill wasn't specific about whether it was a
turn only lane or turn/through lane. 

> 	Four lane road, two in each direction, no left turn lane, is legal 
> to turn left, you'r at the head of some traffic approaching an intersection 
> and want to turn left. TURN YOUR DAMN SIGNAL ON!!!!! I _HATE_ people who 
> can't bend their precious finger to tell the world of their intentions. 
> What the *&#% do you think the thing's for? Did you ever think of letting 
> the people behind you have a chance at getting around you? I can't think 
> of how many lights I've been stuck at because of "people" who pulled the 
> no signal bit at a red light. Sorry - pet peve. Flame off.

Completely agree with ya.  If ya have choices and options, better tell
other folks what's going on.

> 	One guy doesn't want to use the signal, the other uses it too much.
> Guess I'm just too picky.

Not too picky at all.   You hit the nail on the head.

> 	Thanks for putting up with my bitchn'.

Thanks for helping clear the air. 8-)

Cheers!

- randy

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From: fdeck@sleepy.helios.nd.edu (francis deck)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Covert radar gun under development.
Keywords: auto,radar
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:49:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr15.154931.1252
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame


Has anybody considered STEALTH TECHNOLOGY for cars?  I know
the Corvette is made of plastic... Do 'Vette owners get
pulled over by radar cops?

f. deck
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving,rec.autos
From: d2cheng@crocus.waterloo.edu (Dominic Cheng)
Subject: Re: ATTN: Canadians! (re: Radar Detectors)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 23:23:23 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.162318.25946@ccu.umanitoba.ca> larrigan@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca (John Larrigan) writes:
>peterco@eff.org (Peter A. Cohen) writes:
>
>
>Actually, I am not sure where they are legal.  I know for sure they are not
>legal in Manitoba.  I you are caught with one they will let you keep it
>but they drive over it first.  I also know they are illegal in Ontario.
>But like all things its only illegal if you get caught :-).
>

I get caught once in Ontario and they gave me a ticket for $140.  Of course,
they took my radar also. :(

However, I *think* they are legal in Quebec, though.

-- Dom
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From: K.Buck@ma30.bull.com (Ken Buck)
Subject: Re: Unmarked police cars
Reply-To: K.Buck@ma30.bull.com
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Inc.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 13:47:25 GMT
Originator: buck@granite.ma30.bull.com

In article <kdarling.702333694@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu> kdarling@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu
   (Kevin Darling) writes:
>The [Rescue 911] show gave the same tips others have mentioned (go to a
>place with other people around)... and also mentioned that in NC, cops
>are supposed to always hit their siren at least once along with their
>blue light.

of course, fake sirens are not that hard to come by, so although _usually_
it's a pretty good sign of the "Real Thing", it isn't proof.
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From: Peter A. Cohen <peterco@eff.org>
Subject: Re: Best Roads in NE?
Organization: ON Technology, Inc.
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In article  SCHRAM BRIAN K, schramb@ucsu.Colorado.EDU writes:

[stuff about Nebraska deleted]

Thanks for the information, but I was thinking more along the lines of
New England.  Sorry- I was using the newserver distribution abbreviation,
not the postal service's one...

- Peter

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From: Jyri.Virkki@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Jyri Virkki)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Car vs Cycle vs Bike vs Ped--The Main Point
Date: 12 Apr 92 19:36:21 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <9204072353.AA16643@micro> chuang@micro (Michael Chuang) writes:

>RESPONSE TO STOWELL'S VIEW ON TRAFFIC REGULATIONS:
>A speed limit is no more or less asinine than the requirement to come to
>a complete stop before a red octogonal sign.  Understand that traffic laws

You are seriously wrong here. If you don't stop at a stop sign (or red light)
you will get into a position where you should not be. If there is another
driver coming from the other (perpendicular) direction, there will probably
be a collision, because you were not supposed to be there.

Speed limits, on the other hand, are based on; er, well, they are not based
on anything, except the desire to obtain additional revenue from drivers.

>safer.  Failure to obey _any_ traffic regulation is a violation of law.

It is extremely sad to see there exist people with this kind of attitude.
Exactly because of people like you, governments tend to get away with
any and all abuses of power they want to.

>Stowell attempts to link speeding with the exalted tradition of civil
>disobedience, while maintaining that rolling a stop sign, say, is a crime

Many laws are fair and reasonable, many others are not. The responsible
thing for any citizen to do, is to react, in the strongest possible way,
against all abuses from the government. This is the only way to maintain
a free and reasonable society.

This attitude of "Well, the govvnment sez so, so it MUST be right" is
very, very dangerous, and each person who falls under that attitude
takes us further and further away from "democracy". ("for the people, BY
the people", ever heard that?)

Jyri - DoD#561 - j_virkki@upr2.clu.net
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From: jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost)
Subject: Re: brain damaged drivers
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:02:58 GMT

eugene@ksr.com (Eugene Yi-jen Pan) writes:
>What is weird is that you are posting from Boston, and in Boston the right of
>way falls to the person in the rotary.

Not at the Alewife Brook Parkway rotaries, despite the new big yellow
signs that say "incoming traffic must yield."  What really happens is:

* The car in the rotary stops.
* The car entering the rotary slows down to see if the car in the
  rotary is going to start moving suddenly.
* The car entering the rotary decides the car in the rotary is an
  idiot and proceeds into the rotary.

What happens if the car entering the rotary tries to yield as it's
legally supposed to:

* The car in the rotary stops.
* The car entering the rotary yields.
* Traffic is tied up in both directions until one of them decides the
  other isn't going to move.

At the Alewife rotaries things are worsened by very heavy traffic
where most of the traffic is entering and leaving the rotary at the
same points (and sometimes backs up into and through the rotary).  Any
other traffic really disrupts things.

Happy hacking,

jim frost
jimf@centerline.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Tire recs. for a Toyota Camry
From: Philip_Martelli@kcbbs.gen.nz (Philip Martelli)
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:54:38 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

In rather unpredictable Auckland'
s weather conditions, the best thing I've found so far to put on the 
wheels has been a set of Bridgestone RE71s. Dunlop LMJ5s would be my 
close second, but I travel out of town a _lot_, and they'd be hard to 
get anywhere outside the larger centres. I've found the directionals 
are great in the wet - and I wouldn't TOUCH the Aquajets :-)

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From: craig@cs.UAlberta.CA (Penner Craig)
Subject: Re: brain damaged drivers
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:17:59 GMT

jdrout@scott.skidmore.edu (jonathan drout) writes:

>The right of way also falls to the person on the rotary in 

>New Jersey
>New York
>Pennsylvania
>Virginia

>Any other states people know of?

Alberta, Canada, for one.  (We call them traffic circles
up here, though.)

Craig)
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From: jailbird@next11pg2.wam.umd.edu (Who want's to know?)
Subject: Re: Busted!
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:28:49 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.004010.14185@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>  
Robert.M.McLennan@dartmouth.edu (Robert M. McLennan) writes:
> Damn that instant-on.  I'm driving 70 on I-91 in Massachusetts (speed
> limit:  a whopping 55), and get nailed.  Cop wrote the ticket for 65
> mph = $50 fine.  No big deal - bound to happen sometime.  My question
> is, what policy does Mass. have with regards to reporting tickets to
> other states?  I can handle the fine, but I'd rather not have this on
> my record back in Illinois.  Also, what is standard insurance company
> policy for tickets?  If this is reported, will it affect my rates?  (My
> record is clean right now.)  Thanks in advance for the help.
> 
>

Ask for a probation before judgement, at least that's what I did here in  
Maryland, pay fine and no points
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From: wwein@scott.skidmore.edu (warren wein)
Subject: Re: Lasar radar
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 20:48:19 GMT

hpb@hpb.cis.pitt.edu (Harry Bloomberg) writes:
> In article <1992Apr16.151344.25356@news.mentorg.com> gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com (Greg Cagle) writes:
> >
> >According to Car and Driver, Cincinatti Microwave has a working
> >prototype of a laser detector, but doesn't plan to bring it
> >to market.
> >
>    I don't see what good a laser detector would be.  As soon as you're
> illuminated, the cop has your speed, so the reaction time would be
> essentially zero.  Also, you shouldn't be able to detect laser
> emissions before cresting a hill as with radar.
> 
>    The only use I can think of for a laser detector would be to trigger
> your laser countermeasures. :-)
> 
> Harry Bloomberg
> hpb@vms.cis.pitt.edu

	I remember reading in Autoweek that both Bel and Cobra had
units capable of detecting laser radar up to 2 miles away.  CM has a
prototype but won't produce it unless there is sufficient demand.
Which Autoweek says isn't likely because the laser guns cost police
about $4000 a unit.  So why would they buy it over a regular radar gun that
costs $1500. The only reason that it was considered in the first place
is because it was "undetectable".  

					wwein@skidmore.edu
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From: hpb@hpb.cis.pitt.edu (Harry Bloomberg)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving,rec.autos
Subject: Re: Lasar radar
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:48:11 GMT
Followup-To: rec.autos.driving
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Apr16.151344.25356@news.mentorg.com> gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com (Greg Cagle) writes:
>
>According to Car and Driver, Cincinatti Microwave has a working
>prototype of a laser detector, but doesn't plan to bring it
>to market.
>
   I don't see what good a laser detector would be.  As soon as you're
illuminated, the cop has your speed, so the reaction time would be
essentially zero.  Also, you shouldn't be able to detect laser
emissions before cresting a hill as with radar.

   The only use I can think of for a laser detector would be to trigger
your laser countermeasures. :-)

Harry Bloomberg
hpb@vms.cis.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: ptrei@bistromath.mitre.org (Peter Trei)
Subject: Re: Covert radar gun under development.
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 21:09:53 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.193438.15418@ms.uky.edu> uk09365@nx08.mik.uky.edu (robert i kesten) writes:
>In article <1992Apr14.174255.8513@linus.mitre.org>  
>ptrei@bistromath.mitre.org (Peter Trei) writes:
>[etc.]

[description of proposed frequency agile radar gun deleted]

>Forgive my ignorance; but I thought that radar speed measurement worked on  
>the principle of measuring the doppler effect by sending and RECEIVING a  
>microwave (radar) signal to bounce off the target vehicle.  This being the  
>case a spread-spectrum radar gun would have to be able to receive  
>frequencies which would be switched unpredictably "hundreds or thousands  
>of times per seconds."  If the radar gun can be built to do this, why  
>can't a radar detector be built to do this?  Please explain this to me  
>better.

>Thanks

>RIK

     Simple. Electromagnetic radiation will travel ~186 miles in one
millisecond. The radar sends out a pulse, waits for it to come back
(at cop to car distances, this take a few microseconds), calculates
the speed, changes frequency, and repeats the cycle. The whole thing
can take less than a millisecond.

     The problem with detecting it is that most detectors listen in a
very narrow band of frequencies, and the radar is unlikely to spend
much time in the detectors frequency band. If it does happen to send a
pulse in the detectors range, the transient signal will be rejected by
most radar detectors as static.

     Its difficult to construct a radar detector which will follow the
transmitter because you have to (a) detect the existence of a signal
worth tracking in the first place, and (b) you have no idea what
algorithm it uses to decide it's next frequency hop. It may even use a
random number source of some kind.

     Now, you *could* use a broadband RF detector with a dedicated DSP
computer to try to notice the constant presence of a peak somewhere in
the broad band used by the radar, but it'll be a long time before this
will be as available, cheap, and compact as an Escort.

     This is not a final, fatal blow to the radar detector, but rather
a major new stage of escalation.

							Peter
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From: prabal@pons.cis.ohio-state.edu (Prabal Acharyya)
Subject: Re: fog lamps
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:18:48 GMT

In article <sho6fINN409@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> mike@gilligan.Sun.COM (Mike Roncadori - Information Resources) writes:

>It doesn't bother me, because the only time I even uncover the
>driving lights is on long trips. I don't turn them on unless it's
>foggy outside, and high-beams do more harm than good in fog anyhow.

I have a question regarding use of the fog lamps or whatever driving
lights they are called.  I always see these people approaching with
four lights even there is no fog.  Sometimes they are OK but sometimes
they really hurt (depending on the design and position of lights I
guess).  So, is there a law, or anybody can switch on *all* the lights
they have.

Prabal.

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