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From: ejh@khonshu.colorado.edu (Edward J. Hartnett)
Subject: starting emacs (or another application) from .xinitrc
Organization: CIRES, University of Colorado
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:33:43


I hope this question isn't too dumb, but I'm just starting to get into
X and OpenLook. Basically I want to open emacs from my .xinitrc, and
there's a luine in there taht calls the script which is (I presume)
created when you do a save workspace command from the menu. I replaced
this with my own shell and started messing around with it. Here's the
line from the .xinitrc:
if [ -x $HOME/.openwin-init ]; then
    $HOME/.eds_openwin-init			# Custom OpenWindows tools
else
    $OPENWINHOME/lib/openwin-init   	# Default OpenWindows tools
fi

and here's the file .eds_openwin-init:

#! /bin/sh
#This is my openwindow initialization. EJH
#
shelltool -Wp 4 774 -Ws 349 92 -WP 237 833 +Wi   &
clock -Wp 1041 828 -Ws 100 70 -WP 315 833 +Wi   &
		<snip a bunch of shelltools etc>
emacs  -Wp 672 0 -Ws 473 337 -WP 159 833 +Wi   &

The important thing here is this last line starting emacs. How do I
get these options to apply to the window that's opened for emacs? When
this line executes I get an emacs in the default place, with the
default windoiw size, etc. It takes all of my arguments and hands them
to emacs (which can't make much sense of them). I want the arguments
to apply to the window that emacs starts in, so I can set the size,
font, etc. How is this done? Any help would be appreciated.
--
Edward Hartnett			ejh@khonshu.colorado.edu
From: neve@nlm.nih.gov (Leif Neve)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: Devguide and Maintaining stubs.c file ??? (
Date: 1 Oct 92 17:01:46 GMT
Reply-To: neve@nlm.nih.gov
Organization: National Library of Medicine

In article 2905@cs.uow.edu.au, u8903845@cs.uow.edu.au (Anil Sachdeva) writes:
>Hi I have this Question of Maintining files with Devguide.
>
>What I want to know is that when i produce Interface with Devguide.
>
>The stubs.c file consists of the 
>
>		Notify Functions
>		Handler Functions
>		and so on.
>
>of the Interface elements as per my specifications .
>
>Now I have a very large Interface. So my stubs.c file is obviously
>long as well . How can i divide my stubs.c file into smaller files 
>which contain the Notify Functions and Handler Functions .
>
>And what difficulties will i face when i am trying to incoporate some
>changes in Interface . Will Devguide go ahead and make changes in the
>split files .

I'm no DevGuide expert, but...

If you create a separate .G file for each of your windows and use a .P file
to tie them all together, your individual stub files should not get that large.
Unless, of course, you have some very cluttered windows.

Leif Neve
From: nh@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (nicholas.hounsome)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: Question about quitting ol(v)wm
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:25:07 GMT
Organization: AT&T

From article <26661@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, by jschamba@na35.lbl.gov (Jo Schambach):
> Hi,
> I seem to have a problem when quitting my OPENLOOK session on a SUN. First the
> background: I am using OPENWINDOWS 3 on a SPARCstation 2 with SUNOS 4.1.2. My
> window manager is olvwm (from June 92). I am using SUN's deskset tools and MIT's
> xterm's, xman's, and other tools together. When I use the "EXIT" menu item of
> olvwm, I get the following output on my console:
> 
> -----
> XIO:  fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) on X server ":0.0"
>       after 216 requests (206 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
>       The connection was probably broken by a server shutdown or KillClient.
> xterm:  fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) or KillClient on X server ":0.0"
> aborting for post-mortem ...
> olvwm: Warning, X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
>   Request Major code: 113
>   Request Minor code: 0
>   ResourceId 0xb00064
> -----
> 
> After logging back in, I notice that a "core" file was created. I am not sure by
> whom or what, but I assume by olvwm. What am I doing wrong?
> 

It is unlikely to be olvwm - you may get the same if you quit some
X clients form the window manager menu (I am not sure why I suppose
that they do not realize that the WM has asked them to leave).
To find the owner of the core just type 'file core' and it will tell you.

> -- 
> 
> **************************************************************
> Joachim Schambach
> Mailstop 50D
> Lawrence Berkeley Labs
> Berkeley, CA 94720, USA
> 
> email:	JJSchambach@lbl.gov	or	JJSchambach@lbl.bitnet
> Tel:	x1-(510) 486-6349
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> 2 + 2 = 3, for suitably small values of 2
> **************************************************************
> 
Nick Hounsome
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: koverber@cs.ulowell.edu (Kurt Overberg)
Subject: Looking for resource lists
Organization: /usr/ug/1992/koverber/.organization
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:09:44 GMT


Hi, 

	I'm moving to open-look from the Motif world (porting our product)
and I am wondering what resources can be set for OpenLook from within 
the .Xdefaults file.  I also want to know if I can set key and mouse 
actions (Alt+MouseButton1  to  move_window, etc.) is this possible
with OpenLook?  I would also be interested in removing certain decorations
of clients from olwm.  Example: have the xlock come up with no title, etc.
  
Any help you could give me would be appreciated.  E-mail would be best, 
and I will post summary if there is sufficient interest.


				Thanks!


					-kurt


--
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U of Mass, Lowell        | "The nice thing about standards is that       
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From: acw@tradewind.Corp.Sun.COM (A C Wu)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: OLIT3.0 application doesn't have title bar
Date: 3 Oct 1992 01:43:52 GMT
Organization: Sun Micro
Distribution: world
Reply-To: acw@tradewind.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: tradewind.corp.sun.com
Keywords: OLIT, olwm, title, header

OLIT3.0 application doesn't have title bar (header) when running under
OpenWindows v2 olwm, Is there a solution?

thanks,
alex wu
From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: OW 3.0 man page error
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:42:55 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout


If someone has the troff source to the following OpenWindows 3.0 man pages,
it will be appreciated if you e-mailed them to me, since Sun decided to ship
the formatted output in the troff source area.  Running man against an already
man'd page produces really bad output.

The two man pages are:

	ce_db_build.1
	ce_db_merge.1

Thank you (in advance).
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: u8903845@cs.uow.edu.au (Anil Sachdeva)
Subject: How to use Ansic compiler in Makefile of Devguide
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:05:57 GMT

Hi 

If some body could help me with this simple novice question .
Devguide had produced a Makefile for my interface .
I want to use the Ansi C compiler rather than the cc .
Could somebody send me his very simple Makefile produced by Devguide .

Thanks in Advance

email

u8903845@cs.uow.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: groves@noao.edu (Lee Groves )
Subject: cmdtool:  Need my scrollbar back!
Keywords: scrollbar curses
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson, AZ, USA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:08:56 GMT


Greetings.

I have a program which uses the sysV curses routines.  As soon as
I execute an initscr(), the scrollbar for the window disappears,
and this is what I would expect.  The problem is that it doesn't
come back when I do an endwin().  Is there any way to get the
scroll bar back from a call within my program?  The man
pages say that exiting the program or executing a sleep() should
cause the scrollbar to return, but this is not the case.  They
are gone until I kill the window...

If there is no way to re-activate the scrollbar, is there a tool
that *will* let me have the scrollbar back.  I don't expect the
scrollbar to be active while curses is in effect, but I desperately
need it at other times as I am printing long lists into the
window, and they scroll off the top.  

Any and all help is appreciated.

Lee

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: OpenWindows 3.0 cm woes - SEGV in xv_create_avlist()
Followup-To: comp.windows.open-look
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:29:47 GMT


Sometime last week cm started to core dump on me - I have no idea why.  We
have rebooted the machine, started my appointments over again, etc.  Here
is the stack trace from cm - does this ring any bells with folk:

$ dbx /usr/openwin/bin/cm ~/core.cm
Reading symbolic information...
Read 1202 symbols
warning: core file read error: address not in data space
program terminated by signal SEGV (no mapping at the fault address)
(dbx) where
warning: core file read error: address not in data space
xv_create_avlist() at 0xf7662244
xv_create() at 0xf766210c
make_postup_frame() at 0x3b430
postup_show_proc() at 0x3be84
open_it() at 0x2eb8
reminder_driver() at 0x373c
notify_itimer() at 0xf7657c48
ndis_default_prioritizer() at 0xf7651c10
notify_client() at 0xf7652890
ndis_default_scheduler() at 0xf7652924
gh__scheduler() at 0xf7653578
ndis_dispatch() at 0xf7652024
notify_start() at 0xf76f5284
xv_main_loop() at 0xf773525c
main() at 0x13c2c
(dbx)

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From: syy@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com (Sang Y. Yum)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: olxvman
Keywords: olxvman
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:22:09 GMT
Reply-To: syy@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com
Distribution: world
Organization: Teradata/NCR

I am looking for Manula Viewer for OpenLook Interface.  I think it's called
olxvman or something like that.  If you can tell me the name of ftp site
and directory name ( I need this info for ftp-mail server I have to rely on),
it would be greatly appreciated.

Sang


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From: sinan@Mtesol.boeing.com (Sinan Karasu)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: Updating .openwin-menu
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:36:36 GMT


> From: nh@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (nicholas.hounsome)
> Sender: news@cbfsb.cb.att.com
> >From article <cozzi.17@mcpc.rad.nd.edu>, by cozzi@mcpc.rad.nd.edu (Marc D. Cozzi):
> > 
> >   I want to edit and add/change menu items in .openwin-menu and
> >  make the changes available without restarting olwm.
> >  When I used twm it was simple! %source .twmrc and all the changes
> >  were updated.
> >  How does one do this in Openwindows 2.0
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Post or mail
> > cozzi@convex.rad.nd.edu
> 
> get olvwm which is nicer anyway or (I think ) OW3.
> olvwm is available in the R5 distribution
> 

Wholeheartedly agree.. Actually I remember seeing Tom LaStrange recommending olvwm 
on the net also..(and He WROTE twm)
Sinan
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: ejh@khonshu.colorado.edu (Edward J. Hartnett)
Subject: order of execution of my .xinitrc file
Organization: CIRES, University of Colorado
Date: 1 Oct 92 16:55:09

I have been customizing my .xinitrc file, and it calls
.eds_openwin-init now which brings up three performance meters, a
shelltool, the console window, and emacs. Here it is:

#! /bin/sh
#This is my openwindow initialization. EJH
#
clock -Wp 1041 828 -Ws 100 70 -WP 315 833 +Wi   &
shelltool -Wp 530 0 -Ws 593 761 -WP 81 833 +Wi   &
perfmeter -Wp 897 831 -Ws 64 59 -WP 770 838 +Wi  -v disk  -M 40 40 2147483647  -s 2  -h 20  -m 2   &
cmdtool -Wp 0 0 -Ws 590 40 -WP 3 833 +Wi  -C   &
perfmeter -Wp 822 831 -Ws 64 59 -WP 848 838 +Wi  -v page  -M 64 16 2147483647  -s 2  -h 20  -m 2   &
mailtool -Wp 30 30 -Ws 589 252 -WP 471 833 -Wi   &
perfmeter -Wp 968 829 -Ws 64 59 -WP 393 838 +Wi  -v cpu  -M 100 100 100  -s 2  -h 20  -m 2   &
emacs -font 8x13 -w =90x56+0+65 -fg blue -bg cyan &

What confuses me is the order that these pop up on the screen. I
assumed that they would appear in order, but the emacs window appears
first (without boarders), then the rest of the stuff comes up (not
necessarily in the order above). The reason this is annoying is that I
want the emacs window to come up last, and be on top of the shelltool,
whereas now the shelltool is on top (they overlap). I suppose that
each of these lines goes off at it's own pace (as they're all placed
in the background. So i guess emacs just does it's work quickest,
that's why it comes up first. Is this correct? Is there any way to
make emacs come up last?
--
Edward Hartnett			ejh@khonshu.colorado.edu
From: leue@crd.ge.com (Bill Leue)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Enhancement Idea for DevGuide
Keywords: DevGuide, OW
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:34:16 GMT
Reply-To: leue@crd.ge.com
Organization: General Electric Research & Development

DevGuide 3.0 is pretty nice, in general.  However, there are certain kinds
of panels for which it generates less than optimal code.  Here's a suggestion
for an enhancement to handle these problems.

The typical example is a panel in which you have a very large number of
occurances of similar panel items, say 256 check boxes or some other such
monstrosity.  This sounds like a farily obnoxious user interface, of course.
Yet there are cases when you are doing low-level device control where it
is the most straightfoward user interface; for instance, where you want to
give the user bit-level control over a large collection of bitflags.  We
tried other interfaces, but a rectangular array of panel toggle items was
overwhelmingly the favorite interface compared to the others we tried.

Whatever the motivation, you sometimes end up with lots and lots'a the same
kind of panel item. DevGuide generates a scalar opaque handle for each item.
However, what you usually want in this case is an ARRAY of handles so that
you can initialize and process the items in simple loops. It would be quite
handy if you could tell DevGuide, using some kind of "duplicate" command, that
you wanted to replicate an item 'N' times and put the handles into an array.
Even nicer would be some associated layout tools so that the replicated items
could be automaticaly arranged in rows, columns, or rectangular arrays in your
panel with some specified spacing.

Of course, you can manually go into the "*.ui" files and make the handles
into arrays yourself, but then you lose the ability to update the user interface
transparently to your custom code.

-Bill Leue
leue@crd.ge.com
From: samborn@lynchpin.mtkgc.COM (Kevin Samborn)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: disabling auto placement of windows
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:13:45 GMT



> As far as I know, interactive geometry and placement are not specified as
> user interface options in open look and so the window managers do not 
> supply those features.

Having recently switched from adhering to the Motif style to the
OpenLook style, I have to say this feature is sorely missed.
Especially with regard to small windows (marching down the screen)...

Does anyone know to whom to direct a request for an OpenLook
enhancement?

thanks,
kevin samborn
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From: jschamba@na35.lbl.gov (Jo Schambach)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: Question about quitting ol(v)wm
Date: 6 Oct 1992 17:17:30 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.252.87

In article <26661@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, jschamba@na35.lbl.gov (Jo Schambach) writes:
|> Hi,
|> I seem to have a problem when quitting my OPENLOOK session on a SUN. First the
|> background: I am using OPENWINDOWS 3 on a SPARCstation 2 with SUNOS 4.1.2. My
|> window manager is olvwm (from June 92). I am using SUN's deskset tools and MIT's
|> xterm's, xman's, and other tools together. When I use the "EXIT" menu item of
|> olvwm, I get the following output on my console:
|> 
|> -----
|> XIO:  fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) on X server ":0.0"
|>       after 216 requests (206 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
|>       The connection was probably broken by a server shutdown or KillClient.
|> xterm:  fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) or KillClient on X server ":0.0"
|> aborting for post-mortem ...
|> olvwm: Warning, X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
|>   Request Major code: 113
|>   Request Minor code: 0
|>   ResourceId 0xb00064
|> -----
|> 
|> After logging back in, I notice that a "core" file was created. I am not sure by
|> whom or what, but I assume by olvwm. What am I doing wrong?
|> 
|> -- 
|> 
|> **************************************************************
|> Joachim Schambach
|> Mailstop 50D
|> Lawrence Berkeley Labs
|> Berkeley, CA 94720, USA
|> 
|> email:	JJSchambach@lbl.gov	or	JJSchambach@lbl.bitnet
|> Tel:	x1-(510) 486-6349
|> --------------------------------------------------------------
|> 2 + 2 = 3, for suitably small values of 2
|> **************************************************************
|> 


I checked the core file; it was actually produced by "textedit":

> what core
core:
        textedit.c 2.62 91/09/14 Copyr 1990 Sun Micro
        dragdrop.c 1.26 91/09/14 Copyr 1990 Sun Micro
        tooltalk.c 2.16 91/09/14 Copyr 1990 Sun Micro

-- 

**************************************************************
Joachim Schambach
Mailstop 50D
Lawrence Berkeley Labs
Berkeley, CA 94720, USA

email:	JJSchambach@lbl.gov	or	JJSchambach@lbl.bitnet
Tel:	x1-(510) 486-6349
--------------------------------------------------------------
2 + 2 = 3, for suitably small values of 2
**************************************************************

Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: al@netcom.com (Al)
Subject: resource mngr can't read OlDefines in fallback resources?? Whaa ??
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 03:18:39 GMT

The resource manager seems to dislike the following OlDefines when
encountered as fallback resources, why?

static String fallback_resources[] = {

	"*mpt_EXCL.layoutType:		OL_FIXEDCOLS",
	"*mpt_EXCL.measure:		1",

	"*lock_NONEXCL.layoutType:	OL_FIXEDCOLS",

	"*pix_ctrl_NONEXCL.layoutType:	OL_FIXEDROWS",
	"*pix_ctrl_NONEXCL.measure:	1",

	"*margin_text_LABEL.alignment:	OL_TOP",
	"*margin_text_LABEL.position:	OL_LEFT",

	NULL
};


Warning: String to OlDefine given illegal string: OL_FIXEDCOLS
Warning: String to OlDefine given illegal string: OL_FIXEDROWS
Warning: String to OlDefine given illegal string: OL_TOP
Warning: String to OlDefine given illegal string: OL_LEFT


also, I have defined a menuButton with several nonexclusive rectButtons
as children to its menuPane.  These rectButtons I have set up so that either 
an unselect or a select event triggers a callback function which toggles
the button.  The problem is that when I popup the menuShell with the
MENU mouse button and continue to drag it over the rectButtons they are
triggered every time the pointer moves one pixel.  The effect is that the
buttons flutter on and off wildly, a rather undesirable effect. 
Why is this true, and what is the best way to avoid it?


Thanks,
al
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: misha@ai.mit.edu (Mike Bolotski)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: LispView and XView3
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:28:34 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory


Has there been a port of Lispview to use the 3.0 libraries?

--
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misha@ai.mit.edu       Cambridge, MA 02139     (617) 253-8170
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.windows.x,alt.toolkits.xview,comp.windows.x.intrinsics
From: u8903845@cs.uow.edu.au (Anil Sachdeva)
Subject: Devguide and Maintaining stubs.c file ??? (How)
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:25:24 GMT

Hi I have this Question of Maintining files with Devguide.

What I want to know is that when i produce Interface with Devguide.

The stubs.c file consists of the 

		Notify Functions
		Handler Functions
		and so on.

of the Interface elements as per my specifications .

Now I have a very large Interface. So my stubs.c file is obviously
long as well . How can i divide my stubs.c file into smaller files 
which contain the Notify Functions and Handler Functions .

And what difficulties will i face when i am trying to incoporate some
changes in Interface . Will Devguide go ahead and make changes in the
split files .

Thanks in Advance

Anil

u8903845@cs.uow.edu.au
From: sarma@rtsg.mot.com (Raja Sarma)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Need Help with cm (Calendar Mgr) on xview (ver 2)
Keywords: xview, sun3, cm, cmgr, openwindows2
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:27:01 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group


Hi All,
	The calendar manager running on OpenWindows 2 under xview 2
is broken.  I wanted some help to know:
	1. Is cm sources freely available. If so where can I get it from. ?
     2. Does this come as a package with xview(3)? (My guess is it is not)
	3. Is there anyone who is running the same configuration as mine
		has cm working for them successfully.  People at our site
	     reportedly will not support this tool anymore, however they
		don't mind if we FIX IT and USE IT.  I would like to know
		the bugs encountered and how to get around them.

	Please send your replies directly toi me. I will post my summary
to the net. 

Thanks in advance ...

-- Raja

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Distribution: world
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 17:13:33 EDT
From: fgreco@fis1026.shearson.com (Frank Greco)
Subject: Re: How to get a selected string from a panel_list ?

> In article <1992Sep26.031144.8110@umr.edu> mgj@ee.umr.edu (Mahesh Govind Joshi) writes:
> I don't have my code right here in front of me, but my understanding
> is that the only way to get the selected-string from a PANEL_LIST is
> to loop through all the PANEL_LIST_STRINGS and do the test 
> PANEL_LIST_ITEM_SELECTED (??) on each item untill you find the one
> thats selected??  This seems like a rather barbaric way to have to
> do this but (in OW2.0 at least) this was the only way we could
> figure it out??  **Note I don't think I have the keywords exactly
> right but there should be something close?

	That's true and not true.

	If you read the XVPM, you'll notice that on SELECT in a list,
	your callback immediately gets the string and row index (XView
	3.0 finally added the row index).  You can store this in a data
	structure hung off the list so any other "client" can quickly
	determine what's currently selected (don't forget to design
	this data structure to handle a list of strings for
	non-exclusive lists).  However if you don't do this, then in
	fact you do have to linearly search it; but no one designs code
	like that!

	Frank G
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