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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 11:09:00 CST
From:         NETTRAIN <MILLESJG@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>
Subject:      History

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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:09:53 GMT
From: sebert@andy.bgsu.edu (kim)

I am putting togeather a few video tapes on how to get on use the Internet
and would like to get some history. Any other suggestions would be great
as well. If any one is intrested in the responce I will try to repost it or
E-mail to those parties.

Kim
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:06:00 CST
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Subject:      Question about the USENET gateway

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:45:51 GMT
From: ANTISTEC@ctrvx1.Vanderbilt.Edu (ANTISTEC)
Subject: Question about the USENET gateway

OK: I know this list was recently "gated" to USENET (by someone at Wash U. I
believe).  In fact, I'm using my newsreader right now to write this.  Could
the person responsible or anyone with knowledge of such arcane functions
please e-mail me some info on how this is done?  I'd like to do the same
thing for a number of education-related Bitnet lists by gating them to local
newsgroups.  I don't even want to think about getting them passed along
through the system for now, just making them available locally to our K-12
teachers.  Our local news "guru" isn't to sure how to go about this and I'd
like to present him with som hard facts.

Thanks,

David Antis

antistec@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu
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From: sebert@andy.bgsu.edu (kim)
Subject: History
Keywords: Inet
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:09:53 GMT

I am putting togeather a few video tapes on how to get on use the Internet
and would like to get some history. Any other suggestions would be great
as well. If any one is intrested in the responce I will try to repost it or
E-mail to those parties. 

Kim

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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 13:10:00 CST
From:         NETTRAIN <MILLESJG@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>
Subject:      Information Sources: The Internet and CMC (from CMC) (fwd)

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:19:42 -0600 (CST)
From: Gleason Sackman <sackman@plains.nodak.edu>


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:28:47 -0500
From: John Arthur December <decemj@RPI.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list CMC <CMC@rpitsvm.bitnet>
Subject: Information Sources: the Internet and CMC

I've updated my list of information sources on the Internet and
computer-mediated communication (CMC).  This list is available
via anonymous ftp from:

        host: ftp.rpi.edu
        file: pub/communications/internet-cmc

This list available now is relase 2.0.

The purpose of this file is to list pointers to information describing
the Internet, computer networks, and issues related to computer-mediated
communication (CMC).  Topics of interest include the technical,
social, cognitive, and psychological aspects of CMC.

I would appreciate suggestions for improving this file or
expanding the list of information sources contained in it.

This file might help those getting started in understanding the
Internet and CMC; it compactly summarizes sources of information for
those who are already exploring these issues.

Contents:
        Section -1- THE INTERNET AND SERVICES
        Section -2- INFORMATION SERVICES/ELECTRONIC PUBLICATIONS
        Section -3- SOCIETIES AND ORGANIZATIONS
        Section -4- NEWSGROUPS
        Section -5- SELECTED BIBLIOGRAPHY

I'm working on this information as part of an independent study project;
I'll update the file periodically.

---
John December/decemj@rpi.edu/Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute/Troy, New York
PhD Student/Department of Language, Literature, and Communication

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From: harmo@valt.Helsinki.FI (TIMO HARMO)
Subject: Re: Tips on ftp training
Organization: University of Helsinki, Faculty of Social Sciences
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:55:26 GMT

>I'm looking for guides and advice on training users to use anonymous
>FTP.  I have an outline and such, and plenty of experience, so mostly

We have used gopher as a first step before getting to the dirty details
of ftp. You can use gopher first to search files of interest in ftp-servers.
If you have access to gopher, you could set up (ask your gopher maintanence 
people to set up) links. We have to links, the first to WAIS-database
that has indexed readme-files from several places:

Name=Search ftp-readme's 
Type=7
Port=70
Path=waissrc:/WAISes/byletter/F/ftpable-readmes.src
Host=mudhoney.micro.umn.edu
Numb=5

If you can not set up direct links, you will find the link
in minnesota under: 
 Other gopher and information servers - Wais-based information
  - byletter - F - ftpable readmes
Or you can telnet to think.quake.com and use wais directly (or set
up a wais client to your site and use it)

The other link we set up was to a finnish ftp-site at nic.funet.fi:

Name=Ftp nic.funet.fi archives
Type=1
Numb=6
Port=70
Path=ftp:nic.funet.fi@/pub/
Host=nic.funet.fi

Probably there are lots of other ftp-sites linked to gopher-space.
(I hope, since it sounds quite foolish to direct 20 americans
to look at a finnish ftp-site)

It is much easier to use gopher to roam in the public directories 
and look for read.me-files than to use ftp for the same purpose.
Archie is quite useless for novices IMHO, since you cannot really 
discover anything new using archie.
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:05:00 CST
From:         NETTRAIN <MILLESJG@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>
Subject:      Laptop/Datadisplay Combo

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:04 CST
From: PHOFFMAN@crcvms.unl.edu

My institution is looking for a combination data display and laptop unit
we can purchase. We had poor luck with a unit called the Rever Crusier,
but haven't given up hope in finding a decent machine from a reputable
company.  The unit need not have a color display -- just be portable,
dependable, and reasonably priced.
If you have knowledge (and hopefully personal experience with) a machine
like this, I'd appreciate a prompt reply at the address displayed below.
If a conversation on this topic occurred recently, I'd welcome hearing
the results (in a nutshell, of course).
With thanks,
Paul

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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.dasig
Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:10:41 -0500
From:         RDS1@PSUADMIN.BITNET

The CAUSE Office has asked me to forward the attached Call for Nominations to
members of DASIG.

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CAUSE Call for Nominations.

CAUSE has established two award programs related to the challenge of
enhancing the administration and delivery of higher education through
information technology. One honors people, the other infrastructure--two key
elements in the successful deployment of IT on campus.

--- The CAUSE ELITE Award for Exemplary Leadership and Information
Technology Excellence honors individuals who contribute significantly to the
success of their institutions through visionary direction and management of
information technology (deadline for nominations March 1, 1993);

--- The CAUSE Award for Excellence in Campus Networking, a new award this
year, will recognize colleges and universities that have created outstanding
networked systems on campus that allow staff, students, and faculty to be
more productive in today's heavily networked environment (deadline for
nominations March 31, 1993).

CAUSE invites you to nominate candidates for each of these 1993 awards.
Nomination brochures are available from CAUSE, info@CAUSE.colorado.edu, or
phone (303) 449-4430.
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:04:56 EST
From:         MASEMORT@WMAVM7.VNET.IBM.COM
Subject:      SQL performance

Concerning Gene Branham's performance questions

>1). If an index is not clustered at 10000, does reorganizing that index
>    help? or does the file need to be dumped and reloaded?

Reorganizing an index will NOT recluster the data.  Clustering refers to
the data being physically in the same sequence as the index key values.
Index values in SQL/DS are ALWAYS maintained in key value sequence.  The
file must be dumped and reloaded.

>2). Does any one know if the Reorganize function of DBSU use pages in the
>    DBSPACE of the index, or pages in the Internal DBSPACE area for work
>    pages?

The REORGANIZE INDEX function uses internal DBSPACE for work pages.

>3). Is there a rule of thumb to estimate how many pages will be
>    needed for a reorganization?

If you are referring to REORGANIZE INDEX, all index key values will be
saved in an internal DBSPACE, which can be used to calculate space
requirements.

>4). At what clustering level (i.e. 9000 8000 etc.) would you say that
>    performance is degraded to the point that table reloading is
>    required?

SQL/DS Development has continued to support the use of the CLUSTER flag
for determining when to reorganize the data, rather than the clusterratio
value, which does not translate directly to the CLUSTER value.

>Any information or suggestions anyone can give me on perofrmance tuning
>would be greatly appreciated.

From IBM, GG24-3429, "SQL/DS Performance Analysis and Tuning Cookbook".

From Dov Gilor, published by John Wiley & Sons, "SQL/DS Performance,
Techniques for Improvement".

Terry L. Masemore
IBM SQL Master/VM Development
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DELETE HAUSEN@DBNGMD21.BITNET and HAUSEN@GMD.DE form mailing list.
Hans-Ludwig Hausen
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D-5205 St. Augustin                      Germany
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:23:57 +0200
From:         "Ariel T. Sobelman" <VSARIEL@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL>

Help please ASAP:

Does anyone out there have any details about SQL related courses
starting next week, around Feb 3nd in the New York City area?
Please, if you know of some schools I can write to and ask,
send me a name and fax number.  Thank you very much,

Ariel T. Sobelman

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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:18:48 EST
From:         Al Crozier <AL1161@IBRDVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Unloading Dbspaces to Tape
              28 Jan 1993 12:45:00 CST from <LARRYR@KSUVM.KSU.EDU>

Larry,

Try this format for your options in the filedef:

'FILEDEF XXX TAP1 SL (RECFM VBS LRECL 8240 BLOCK 32760 DEN 6250 LEAVE)'

This should get the most bang for your buck!

Regards,

Al Crozier
The World Bank
202.473.2187
AL1161@IBRDVM1.BITNET
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:59:58 CST
From:         "Gene P. Branham Sr." <GPBRANHA@SAMFORD.BITNET>
Subject:      SQL performance

I am trying to determine how to improve performance in SQL batch programs.
These programs are written in COBOL. We are utilizing VM batch to process
these programs. I have the following questions...

1). If an index is not clustered at 10000, does reorganizing that index
    help? or does the file need to be dumped and reloaded?

2). Does any one know if the Reorganize function of DBSU use pages in the
    DBSPACE of the index, or pages in the Internal DBSPACE area for work
    pages?

3). Is there a rule of thumb to estimate how many pages will be
    needed for a reorganization?

4). At what clustering level (i.e. 9000 8000 etc.) would you say that
    performance is degraded to the point that table reloading is
    required?

Any information or suggestions anyone can give me on perofrmance tuning
would be greatly appreciated.

Does anyone know of a consultant that specializes in perfomance tuning?

Thanks for any info!

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| Gene P. Branham Sr.         |  SAMFORD University - Birmingham, AL   |
| (205) 870-2652              |  Sr. Systems Analyst                   |
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:08:51 -0600
From:         Stellar Systems Group <STELLAR@BCSC02.BITNET>
Subject:      Michael Teitelbaum and Associates are Alive and Well

I'd like to make a correction to a note that was sent last week.

Michael Teitelbaum and Associates have suspended operation of their
consulting services, and are concentrating on their education and
training services.

Their new 1993 brochure will be sent out in February.

Their phone number is (212) 799-2200.
Their fax number is   (212) 873-6562.

Regards,
John F. Griffin
Stellar Systems Group
306 - 1095 McKenzie Avenue
Victoria, B.C.  Canada  V8P 2L5
Phone:(604) 479-7722  Fax:(604) 479-6526
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:45:00 CST
From:         Larry Rupp <LARRYR@KSUVM.KSU.EDU>
Subject:      Unloading Dbspaces to Tape

Can anyone help me out with the following problem?

I am trying to unload Dbspaces to a tape using SQLDBSU. The Problem -
regardless of the block size in the filedef, only one record per block
is written. I am using the following Filedef:

     "filedef temp_1 tap2 sl (alt tap3 den 6250 leave) (recfm VBS block 8244"

We are running SQL/DS 3.3 under VM and VSE using guest sharing on a 9121 - ESA
1.1.

                                                  Thanks
                                                        Larry
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:57:11 EST
From:         "Jack Schudel (SCHUDEL@NERVM)" <SCHUDEL@NERVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Introductory Operator Documentation

Does anyone have any basic documentation that would help brand new
remote site printer operators get up to speed?

One of our remote sites just had all 3 of their operators quit, and
they are trying to use clerks with no computer experience to do the
job.  They really need something that will explain what a job is,
the fact that it can generate output to multiple destinations, and
the implications of cancelling or holding the entire job compared to
just cancelling or holding a single output group.

Any help would be greatly apprciated.

thanks --jack
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:08:00 MDT
From:         "DOV - DR. ART ST. GEORGE" <STGEORGE@UNMB.BITNET>
Subject:      Kiosk Blueprints Wanted

In cooperation with a local electronic newspaper, the
University of New Mexico is planning to establish a
kiosk in a local shopping center. We initially are thinking
of a structure with several monitors and keyboards and
perhaps a passive video station.

I am looking for others who have constructed similiar
structures and in fact, am at the stage where I would
like to see blueprints.  If anyone has information about
building kiosks, please get in touch with me. Thanks.

Art St. George
University of New Mexico
(505) 277-8046 (v)
(505) 277-8101 (fax)
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From: osmana@well.sf.ca.us (Osman Arslaner)
Subject: Wang Mail to X400 Gateway.
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 16:22:26 GMT

We are looking for a Mail Gateway which will connect WANG Mail to an
X.400 Mail Backbone..
Any comments and help is appreciated...
Thanks.

Osman Arslaner,
CN Rail.
E-Mail: arslaner@cnmtl.cn.ca
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:46:26 EST
From:         "John W. Snell, Computing Center Director" <JOHN@TRANSY.BITNET>
Subject:      VM/SP gone...what now?

We presently run VM/SP release 5 on a 4361, and are looking to get a
4381-PO3 in here in a couple of months to replace the 4361.  Due to
moving to a larger box, our outlay for VM/SP and VS Fortran were going
to increase quite a bit, so it seemed to make sense for us to join the
HESC.  I was looking forward to dropping 4 Waterloo compilers
and picking up the VS versions of them to run with our MUSIC/SP system.
(which supports the VS versions of the C, PASCAL, COBOL, etc. compilers)
The information I had from IBM on the HESC turns out to be
ancient, I discover while perusing the IBM-HESC list archives, and a
call to my SE confirms this.

Since VM/SP has been dropped from HESC, there are no longer any versions
of VM in HESC group I-A, so I'm wondering what kind of options I have
available to me now.

Any suggestions?

John
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*          John W. Snell, Computing Center Director                   *
*          Transylvania University  (606) 233-8134                    *
*          300 N. Broadway            JOHN@TRANSY.BITNET              *
*          Lexington, Kentucky 40508  USA                             *
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:52:01 EST
From:         Fred Dwyer <FDDWYER@RHQVM21.VNET.IBM.COM>
Subject:      VM/SP gone...what now?
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>Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:46:26 EST
>From:         "John W. Snell, Computing Center Director"
><JOHN%TRANSY.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU>
>Subject:      VM/SP gone...what now?
>
>Since VM/SP has been dropped from HESC, there are no longer any versions
>of VM in HESC group I-A, so I'm wondering what kind of options I have
>available to me now.
>=======================================================================
>*          John W. Snell, Computing Center Director                   *
>*          Transylvania University  (606) 233-8134                    *
>*          300 N. Broadway            JOHN@TRANSY.BITNET              *
>*          Lexington, Kentucky 40508  USA                             *
>=======================================================================

VM/ESA 370 Feature, was announced as available in I-A1 on 12/13/91.  It
is product number 5684-112.  VM/SP was withdrawn from marketing, and
could therefore, no longer be obtained even under HESC.

                            Fred Dwyer
                            IBM ACIS
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:15:36 EST
From:         Fred Dwyer <FDDWYER@RHQVM21.VNET.IBM.COM>
Subject:      Addition to HESC
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Comments: cc: BPCUDD@RHQVM21.VNET.IBM.COM

>From:         Marty Hoag <NU021172%NDSUVM1.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU>
>Subject:      Request for 5696-362 AIX SystemView NetView/6000 V2
>To:           Multiple recipients of list IBM-HESC
><IBM-HESC%PSUORVM.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU>
>   I would like to request consideration of NetView/6000 V2 in the next
>HESC upgrade cycle:
>PRODNO                5696-362 AIX SystemView NetView/6000 V2
>   It would seem logical that this would go into group I-H where
>NetView/6000 V1 (5765-077) now resides.
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Thanks Marty,
We will add 5696-362 to those products proposed for addition to HESC
in our Spring 1993 general update.
                                  Fred Dwyer
                                  IBM ACIS
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:16:00 CST
From:         Marty Hoag <NU021172@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Request for 5696-362 AIX SystemView NetView/6000 V2

   I would like to request consideration of NetView/6000 V2 in the next
HESC upgrade cycle:

PRODNO                5696-362 AIX SystemView NetView/6000 V2

   It would seem logical that this would go into group I-H where
NetView/6000 V1 (5765-077) now resides.

   The addition of any software that helps us run and manage the
growing number of RS/6000s in instruction and research applications
would be a good thing...

   Thank you.

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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:52:09 CST
From:         "Richard A. Schafer" <SCHAFER@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: VM/SP gone...what now?
Comments: To: Multiple recipients of list IBM-HESC
          <IBM-HESC%PSUORVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>

You can order the VM/ESA 370-feature (5684-112) from Group I-A1, which
should be fine for your needs.

Richard
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