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From: keithp@natinst.com (Keith Peterson)
Subject: Re: 9 Volumes of STAR WARS?
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:54:07 GMT

I heard the same thing several years ago. The first trilogy was to take
place about 50 years before the middle trilogy and the third trilogy was
to take place about 50 years after the middle trilogy. It would be interesting
to see these made into movies. Assuming that this is true.

Keith Peterson
From: v128juxa@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Schuyjuannah)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Ewoks!!!
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:48:00 GMT
Organization: SUNY@Buffalo
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In article <1992Apr17.153915.1862@midway.uchicago.edu>, h309@midway.uchicago.edu writes...
> 
>  Does anybody remember "The Ewok Adventure" ?  It came out about two years
>after RoftheJ on PBS. Also, the entire movie soundtrack was being played in
>stereo on the radio, so you could listen to the sound in stereo, while you
>watch the movie, etc.

Yes, I remember it well. It was on ABC (?), broadcast November 1984.


>  "The Ewok Adventure" was about this family that crash landed on Endor
>and the boy (who kinda looked like Mark Hamill) was left to care for his sick
>little sister. Wickett and his family befriend them and help them get back.

These who you speak of are Eric Walker (the Mark Hamill lookalike) and 
Aubree Miller (the little sister).
From: cc433336@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Constantinos A. Caroutas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: 9 Volumes of STAR WARS?
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:32:02 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College

In article <1992Apr15.215522.18730@acsu.buffalo.edu>,
v122jr52@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Thomas H Dunning) writes:
>
>We just had a 35mm copy of Star Wars here at SUNY Buffalo a few weeks back
>and it clearly had a "Chapter IV" or some other such designation.
>While this could be a re-release, I find that doubtful considering the
>shape the film was in and the cost for 35mm prints.

The original release of the first Star Wars movie did not have the
"Part IV: A New Hope" at the beginning.

Constantinos A. Caroutas
From: dlf@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Daniel L Fabrizius)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Many things.
Date: 16 Apr 1992 15:34:49 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
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In <1992Apr16.192921.22035@acsu.buffalo.edu> v113np2v@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (George D Emmons) writes:


>  To settle the debates which have gone on here in the past day...

>1) There were only two scenes shot for A New Hope which were not 
>included. Only two, folks. No others.
>The scenes were:
>     Luke on Tatooine spotting the battle, going to Anchorhead,
>telling Camie and Fixer, meeting up with Biggs again, and speaking
>with him about his (Biggs') intentions of jumping to the Alliance
>with a friend when they get aboard the _Rand Ecliptic_.
>     Luke meeting up with Biggs before the final battle in the 
>Massassi temple hangar bay. Luke also meets Red Leader, who says
>he met Luke's father (no name given yet) when he (Red Leader) was
>a boy, and that if Luke is half the pilot his father was, he'll do
>better than "all right" (Read the script or the comic book for the
>meaning of that.)
Both of these scenes were discussed in the STAR WARS book by Lucas.

....<stuff deleted>......

>5) It was never *OFFICIALLY* stated that Vader fell into a lava/
>lime pit. Lucas states, "It can say in some magazine that that's 
>how Vader got wounded, but until it shows up in one of the books or
>movies, anything can happen." in the SW 10th anniversary issue of 
>_Starlog_.
This was stated in the Return of the Jedi book published by Del Rey
(I believe).  I believe Ben tells Luke about how it happened.

-- 
Danny Fabrizius       dlf@ksuvm.ksu.edu      dlf@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
                   
You're life is equipped with a memory function.
This in no way should substitute for new experience.
From: n8744926@henson.cc.wwu.edu (m e bracher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Antilles
Date: 16 Apr 92 05:13:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Apr16.051309.8770
Organization: Western Washington University

ahawks@isis.cs.du.edu (ronald reagan) writes:

>Am I imagining or are there huge inconsistancies in the books and movies with
>the name "Antilles".  I haven't read the books in awhile, and I haven't payed
>close attention to the movie in awhile, but I seem to recall an abundance of
>the name "Antilles":  C3P0 and R2D2 say something about "Our last master was
>Captain Antilles", isn't Leia's father's name Antilles, and isn't Wedge's last
>name Antilles?  

okay ...

Wedge Antilles was one of the few people (aside from the principals)
to survive all three films.  not a bad bit of doing.

if I recall, Captain Antilles was someone *else* who was captaining
the Blockade Runner that Leia was on -- I believe that he was Wedge's
father, but I don't know if I invented that as a youth or if there's
any support for it.  makes sense though.

finally, Leia's [adoptive] father's name was Bail Organa.  Rusty 
Miller, in his Jedi Master's Quizbook, gave the answer that he was
Bail Antilles, which was completely, totally, and horribly wrong.
(the very fact that I can *still* remember something that trivial
annoys me more than a bit.)

- amtt
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From: ahawks@isis.cs.du.edu (ronald reagan)
Subject: Come on Down to Crazy Jawa's Used Droids
Keywords: ...where our prices are insaaaaaaaaannnnneeee!
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 04:43:26 GMT

just watching SW while posting some things to this newsgroup, and I couldn't
help but notice the"dialogue" of the Jawa's.....When Lars starts arguing with a
Jawa after that R5D4 (in the movie they call it an "R2 unit with a bad
motivator") breaks down, the Jawa says something that sounds almost too much
like "What?  We couldn't find a thing!"  (go back and watch it again if you
missed it)...Anyway, exactly what language did the Jawas speak?  Was it some
sort of mish-mash used-car-salesman talk they adopted so they could sell their
wares on Tatooine or is it Bocce or what?

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From: terence@soldev.tti.com (Terence Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: 9 Volumes of STAR WARS?  (1st post?)
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:53:06 GMT
Organization: Transaction Technology Inc.

About the nine volumes of Star Wars:  I had hear the same thing but never 
any mention of production or a script for that matter.

On a related note, I read a book by Timothy Zahn entitled "Heir To The
Empire".  It starts 5 or so years after "Jedi".  Pretty good!

Terry (terence@ttidca.tti.com)
From: lesher@bucknell.edu (timothy lesher `94)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: trivia
Date: 16 Apr 92 11:22:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, Pa.

In article <1992Apr16.085554.12525@leland.Stanford.EDU>, elizaga@leland.Stanford.EDU (Patrick Martin Laic Elizaga) writes:
> 
> From elizaga Thu Apr 16 01:54:52 1992
> To: /s12/A/elizaga/.article
> Subject: trivia
> 
> 
> 
> 
>      If you were a jawa or were speaking jawa, when would you say,
>      "Ooteenie!" :)      [u ti ni]

This one I don't even have a clue on...

>                                    ?
>      Who's heard about how Darth Vader got his burns?

This is dim recollection, but just after Anakin Skywalker became the Emperor's
protege, he and Kenobi duelled, and he was knocked into a (?) lime pit...
we're talking long term memory here, but...

>      Before Uncle Owen told Luke to clean up C3-PO and R2, what was Luke
>    going to do?

I believe he was going to work on the vapor condensors... but I think that was
before the Jawas even arrived...

>      How does R2-D2's name relate to mixing audio tracks in a studio?

The masters were given alphanumeric labels, and someone told someone else to
"pass me the R2D2" tape, and it stuck.

>      Who from Star Wars were guests on THe Muppet Show?

The droids, I believe.  (Or else Solo and Chewbacca... but I KNOW that there
was a PBS special featuring the Sesame Street characters and the 'droids.  I
think. ;) )

>      How is Fozzie Bear related to Yoda?

The same voice, maybe?  I haven't the foggiest.

> 
> Rick.


Oh, by the way, I know about that scene that was cut out of the movie... I have
the book that has the picture in, too...  The scene was part of a long sequence
of Luke in a city, if memory holds out... remember, I haven't seen any of the
movies in about 4 years, and I haven't read any of the books in almost double
that.

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From: jshiely@twain.helios.nd.edu (james shiely)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Jedi editing errors
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:17:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr16.161722.28918
Reply-To: jshiely@twain.helios.nd.edu (james shiely)
Organization: Univ. of Notre Dame

Some more strange technical things regarding the emperor:

Has anybody noticed a really annoying black glob which seems to hang around above the Emperor's left eye?  I don't remember noticing it in the theater, but on the video release it is painfullt obvious.  It looks like some sort of frame-by-frame touch-up was done to the emperor's face in many of the shots.  It may be that it is just a bad lighting effect, but if it is, then it is of a kind I have never seen before.  I am wondering if it is a similar film-to-video transfer problem to the one which allows the


 viewer to see the matteing blocks for the spaceships on the video transfer.

BTW, regarding this problem (If you are not sure what problem I am talking about, watch the Millenium Falcon's Death Star escape on video and observe the way polygonal black fields of slightly different color than the surrounding fields seem to follow the TIE fighters.  This is where it is most obvious, it is an effect design flaw that is evident throughtout the entire trilogy.), I read somewhere that just recently a new form of matteing was developed which should eliminate this transfer problem.  It invol


ved multiple passes on the same piece of film, if I recall, and less extensive optical printing.  While that in itself is an old idea, there was something else new about it.  It was used in the Ewok TV movies because of the inherently video nature of those projects.  Between this new process and the probably extensive use of computer modelling on the next trilogy, we will hopefully not see this particular technical error again.
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Friday, 17 Apr 1992 13:10:21 EDT
From: BIG ED <EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Ewoks!!!


In article <1992Apr17.153915.1862@midway.uchicago.edu>, h309@quads.uchicago.edu
(Unknown Author) says:
>
>  Does anybody remember "The Ewok Adventure" ?  It came out about two years
>
>  "The Ewok Adventure" was about this family that crash landed on Endor
>and the boy (who kinda looked like Mark Hamill) was left to care for his sick
>little sister. Wickett and his family befriend them and help them get back.

    You are talking about "The Ewok Adventure: Caravan of Courage", which was
followed by "The Battle for Endor". Both were cheezy as far as Special Effects
go, but it was put out by Lucas, and part of the Star Wars canon.
    I recently bought "The Battle for Endor" on Laserdisc. It definately was
cheezy, but I want to have all the Star Wars movies I can get my hands on, on
Laserdisc at some point in time.

                                     -Ed

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From: v113np2v@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (George D Emmons)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Random musings...
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:23:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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In article <1992Apr16.052055.385@tc.cornell.edu>, chris@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Chris Wolf) writes...
>>"Don't worry, Han. They're not gonna chain you to a wall and shoot you."
>>                                -Luke Skywalker
> 
>^Just curious but where'd the quote come from? 
> 
    The SW Radio Drama, final episode. I don't want to post 
quotes from the movies, so I'll be pulling them from obscure
(But legitimate sources).
                                George
"They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally,
they became heroes."
                              -Leia Organa Solo
                          (Figure the source for yourself)
From: ratinox@meceng.coe.northeastern.edu (Richard Pieri/Stainless Steel Rat)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Idea of the Force (was Re: I'll get you, Luke..)
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:52:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: splinter.RATINOX.92Apr15205245
	<1992Apr15.233510.24368@athena.mit.edu>
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>>>>> On 15 Apr 92 23:35:10 GMT, pckyip@athena.mit.edu (Patrick C Yip) said:

>   I don't suggest that _Star Wars_ ripped off the plot of _The Wizard 
>of Oz_, but can't help noticing certain parallels (JUST FOR FUN!):

pckyip> BTW I've read some comments that "the force" was derived from the
pckyip> "mystic" oriental philosophy and religion. Anybody wants to confirm
pckyip> this, or wants to disprove it?"

Wouldn't supprise me in the least.

Watch the lightsaber duels carefully, specifically the first three swings.
These first three moves are all identical... identical to the opening of
any formal Kendo fight. (For those not in the know, Kendo is the sport/
competition form of Kenjutsu, the Japanese Samurai art of fighting with
swords.)

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From: dyrda@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (The Conservative)
Subject: Darth Vader, etc et
Keywords: Bad Ass
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 15:54:20 GMT


 For all likes and purposes I thought Darth Vader was the best
character in the series. He had the best lines and the best
attitude towards his "goals". In respects to movies I thought
TESB was by far the best. It had was funny, adventurous, and
had some great one-liners, you'd have thought Bruce Willis
wrote it. :-))

 Some great ones were:

 "Apology accepted Captain Needa!"
 "Would it help if I got out and pushed?!?!?"
 "This babies got a few suprises in her"
 "Well, you wanted to see when I made a mistake.."
 "You're in charge now ADMIRAL Piert!"
 "He's as clumsy as he's stupid!"

All in all TESB is one of my favorite movies, along with Die Hard
and I'm Gonna Git U Sucka. It maybe the "dark" one, but don't we 
all like to see the bad guys win too. Plus Solo's attitude throughout
the whole movie was excellent.

 
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Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 11:58:15 EDT
From: Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: I'll get you, Luke Skywalker, and your little droid too!
 <1992Apr15.230200.22731@athena.mit.edu>
 <MKC.92Apr16110522@swiss.centerline.com>

In article <MKC.92Apr16110522@swiss.centerline.com>, mkc@centerline.com (Mark
Culotta) says:
>
>In article <1992Apr15.230200.22731@athena.mit.edu> masanag@athena.mit.edu
>(Masahiko Nagamiya) writes:
>I would be interested in hearing of other's memories of going to SW the first
>time.

All I remember is that my Dad wouldn't take us to see it right away b/c of the
lines.  When he did finally take us to see it, and the line started going in
to see the movie, they cut off the line to go in about three people ahead of
us and we waited two hours to see it anyway.....=)

All I know is that for the next few years, until Jedi, I was hooked on all
those Kenner toys.  Jedi sort of soured it for me and then I gave away ALL
of my toys at a Christmas toy-drive.  Hope whoever has them is taking good
care of them......=(

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From: jmv@grip.cis.upenn.edu (Jean-Marc Vezien)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Errors...
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:20:25 GMT
Organization: GRASP Lab



I would really appreciate if somebody could collect all the "little errors"
(remembering The StormTrooper bumping his head in TESB always makes me smile)
and make a Post out of it ?
Come on, you SW weirdos ! What else did you noticed ?


JM
PS: Can someone name all the crew members ever mentionned in SW ? (Both sides)
From: ravenone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Robert Marsa)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Falcon and Kessel run
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:22:17 GMT
Reply-To: ravenone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Robert Marsa)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: ravenone@grumpy.cc.utexas.edu

Although the explaination of an obstacle course is amusing, the context
indicates that Han was trying to say how fast his ship was.  I don't have
my book handy (perhaps I should carry it at all times :-), I'm sure that
it says "It's the ship that made the Kessel run in less than n standard
time parts" or something.  Anyway, the book uses time, not distance.

Robert
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From: tweaver@hobbes.kzoo.edu (Tim Weaver)
Subject: Re: Harrison Ford
Organization: Kalamazoo College
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:28:48 GMT

> >
> >Harrison Ford's career got "launched" by "American Grafitti", several years
> >before "Star Wars" came out.
> >

> How about Ron Howard and Richard Dreyfus? They were in "American Grafitti"...

Ron Howard's career got launched by the Andy Griffith (sp?) show.  He's
a Hollywood brat any way and was bound to have a career.  Dreyfus was doing
stuff before American Graffiti also, but I don't have references and my
memory for what came out when isn't that good.
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From: johnsd2@jec318.its.rpi.edu (Daniel Norman Johnson)
Subject: Re: Falcon and Kessel run
Reply-To: johnsd2@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 20:36:40 GMT

In article <70478@ut-emx.uucp>, ravenone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Robert Marsa) writes:
|> Although the explaination of an obstacle course is amusing, the context
|> indicates that Han was trying to say how fast his ship was.  I don't have
|> my book handy (perhaps I should carry it at all times :-), I'm sure that
|> it says "It's the ship that made the Kessel run in less than n standard
|> time parts" or something.  Anyway, the book uses time, not distance.
|> 
|> Robert

Hmmm, about that 12-parsec bit. Maybe he was bragging about
the Falcons maneuverability? It's real quite impressive, even
compared to a tie fighter. Remeber the scene where the Falcon turns
around to charge a Star Destroyer (in order to clamp itself onto the
back of the thing)? I don't remember any other ship in the SW moives
making a turn that tight, and I noticed a big flare of light from
the Falcon's engines (so the main engines were doing it?)

So maybe Solo was saying the Falcon is so maneuverable that
it could make the Kessel Run in so short a distance (he
never did say he was piloting it at the time, and we do know
it had at least one previous owner)

Just my bibble babble for the day. :)
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From: pockrand@cs.umn.edu (Mitch Pockrandt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: 9 Volumes of STAR WARS?  (1st post?)
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:23:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr15.222329.13455
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

In article <1992Apr15.162133@IASTATE.EDU> picard@IASTATE.EDU (David B Roy) writes:
>
>You may be right about the long-range plans, though I am pretty sure it's always
>been Lucas' plan to make 9, but you're a bit off about Episode IV.  In the
>scrolling text at the beginning of the movie, it says "Episode IV:  A New
>Hope."
>So, it's always been #4, and I think it also shows that George has always
>planned to make 1-3.
>
>Dave Roy

This should end up being in a FAQ if anyone puts one together.

"Episode IV: A New Hope" appeared on the opening trailer at the 
second theatrical release.  (I think this was during 1979, but 
I'm not sure at the moment.)  During the initial release, which 
ran from May 1977 through at least March 1978 (in Kansas City 
anyway) there never was a mention of an episode number.

I recall reading about the plot sketches that Lucas had for the 
three trilogies as early as a few months before the second release.
(That was probably around Jan 1979.)  I think it is safe to say 
that he has had ideas for all 9 movies, but not that he always planned
to make them.  After Episode 6 was released, his marriage broke up,
which helped to bring about statements like "No more Star Wars films!"
from Lucas.  A few years later it was suggested that they might be
made as new video production techniques were developed which would
help lessen the workload of putting a set of movies together.  The
last I read (a few years ago), if the episodes 1-3 were made, they
would be produced as a group, then released sequentially.

Mitch Pockrandt
Minneapolis, MN
(pockrand@cs.umn.edu)
(pockrand@src.honeywell.com)