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From: ajb@iti.org (Al Boehnlein)
Subject: High Teck Watches
Organization: Industrial Technology Institute
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:27:49 GMT


I am currently looking for a new wrist watch.  My old one (discontinued Casio
fx70) had a scienctific calculator, a programers calculator, alarms,
stopwatch ect.  I would like something like it, or possibly one of the new
data bank type calculators, hopefully with upload/download capabilities.
They got some really neat toys out there these days.

Anybody have a favorite wrist watch out there?, Any Ideas?

ajb

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From: marcl@os-d.isc-br.com (H. Marc Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: Owner's review of Gateway 2000 HANDBOOK
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:07:17 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin) writes:

>Thanks for the thoughtful, informative review.  Some questions though:
>1. How do you like the screen, compared to the T1000se say?

	It's smaller, of course.  It's not quite as bright, nor does it have
	the same contrast.  In other words, the T1000SE's screen is better,
	but then I always thought the T1000SE had one of the best screens
	(for non-Windows apps).

>2. How much does the ram expansion card cost?  Is it PCMCIA compatible?
>   Can you set it up as a disk, like the T1000SE?

	Don't know the prices of accessories, 'cause I didn't ask.  It isn't
	PCMCIA compatible, it's much smaller and fits inside the Handbook
	(you have to unscrew a small cover to install it).  I'm sure you can
	set it up as a ramdisk, and I believe it keeps *ALL* of ram `hot'
	when in the `powered down' state -- so I think the answer is a
	conditional YES.

>3. Is an internal modem available?  If so, what speed and cost?

	Yes, 2400bps data, 9600bps FAX, don't know the cost.

>4. How large is the AC adapter and how much does it weigh?

	It's about 30% smaller than the T1000SE's, and correspondingly lighter.
	I don't know the exact weight.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: etljskk@etlxd11c.etlxd10 ( janos kopecek; tc 4874 )
Subject: Re: Psion 3 128 or 256?
Reply-To: etljskk@etlxd10.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Telecom, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:08:17 GMT

> I am seriously considering buying a Psion 3 for diary & database
> use.  I wanted to know the differences between the 128K and 256K
> versions, bearing in mind I doubt very much I will ever want to 
> use the spreadsheet.


There is more and more software coming out for the Psion 3. If you
are ever going to consider to by any of these I would recommend to
by the 256K machine, as all the software I have see is not recommended to be
run (or will not) on the 128k machine. Also, I find that opening	
several applications, e.g database and diary etc all use up memory.
Memory you would not have much of on the 128k machine.

Basically, buy the 256k machine - It's well worth the extra.

Janos.
From: charliep@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Charles Patton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: HP28s software
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:17:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvra.25590239
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA

Here's a partial list from an archie search on "hp28"
19921208075200Z    512 gmuvax2.gmu.edu /new/hp28/
19921013142000Z    512 sabrina.dei.unipd.it /pub/handhelds/hp28/
19921013142000Z 248801 sabrina.dei.unipd.it /pub/handhelds/hp28/hp28.lzh
19920810110000Z     24 hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com /pub/files/hp28/
19920807103800Z  30051 gmuvax2.gmu.edu /new/hp28/hp28.open
19920703000000Z  11336 ee.utah.edu /hp48/NEWFILES/blokdrop.hp28
19920703000000Z   3974 ee.utah.edu /hp48/NEWFILES/composer.v11.hp28
19920703000000Z   8583 ee.utah.edu /hp48/NEWFILES/poker.v10.hp28
19920703000000Z 196731 ee.utah.edu /hp48/NEWFILES/the-hp28.arc
19920603000000Z    512 krynn.efd.lth.se /pub/hp-calc/hp28/
19920603000000Z  11110 krynn.efd.lth.se /pub/hp-calc/hp28/general/hp28_power_consum.txt
19920603000000Z  10926 krynn.efd.lth.se /pub/hp-calc/hp28/general/hp28com_rev.txt
19920429000000Z    512 plains.nodak.edu /pub/hpcalc/hp28/
19920325000000Z 196731 hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com /pub/the-hp28.arc
19920313000000Z  11336 ee.utah.edu /hp48/blokdrop.hp28
19920313000000Z   3974 ee.utah.edu /hp48/composer.v11.hp28
19920106000000Z  11336 hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com /pub/blokdrop.hp28
19920106000000Z   3974 hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com /pub/composer.v11.hp28
19920106000000Z   8583 hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com /pub/poker.v10.hp28
19911231190100Z   2560 relay.iunet.it /disk0/hp/hp28s/
19911231182100Z   5657 relay.iunet.it /disk0/hp/hp28s/hp28com.review.Z
19911231182100Z   2034 relay.iunet.it /disk0/hp/hp28s/hp28onoff.Z
19911206000000Z   1536 gmuvax2.gmu.edu /hp28/
19911129000000Z   1024 lysator.liu.se /pub/hp28-hp48/
19911001000000Z   1305 src.doc.ic.ac.uk /usenet/comp.archives/auto/sci.electronics/HP28S-printer-Amiga-Serial-Port.Z
19910929000000Z   1999 cs.dal.ca /pub/comp.archives/sci.electronics/hp28s-printer-amiga-serial-port
19910610000000Z   2048 ee.utah.edu /hp28/
19910503000000Z    512 src.doc.ic.ac.uk /usenet/comp.archives/funic-hp28/
19910502000000Z    715 src.doc.ic.ac.uk /usenet/comp.archives/tau.sm.luth.se/hp28-archives.Z
19910408000000Z   9995 gmuvax2.gmu.edu /hp28/blokdrop.hp28
19900325000000Z  10926 ee.utah.edu /hp28/hp28com.review
19900202000000Z   1739 relay.iunet.it /disk0/hp/hp28s/hp28s-arch.Z
19890916000000Z  10926 gmuvax2.gmu.edu /hp28/hp28com.review
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From: herbert@prz.tu-berlin.de (Herbert Almus)
Subject: Re: HP28s software
Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:35:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.212223.1793@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>  
jmilhoan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (JT) writes:
> In article <9301221641.AA17828@clam.cis.ohio-state.edu>  
huff@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (Brian C. Huff) writes:
> >
> >	Does anyone out there know where to find software for the
> >HP28s?  I've been looking, but to no avail.  Any help would be
> >appreciated!
> >
> >Thanks!
> 
> Yes, I am interested in this as well!  There was an ftp site  
(irisa.irisa.fr) in France which used to have a bunch of programs, but it  
doesn't work anymore.
> 
> Any pointers are greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> JT

Long time ago, there was a lot of HP28S stuff available on funet.funic.fi
hopefully it's still there :-). Should be worth to try.


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From: gingell@aurs01.UUCP (Mike Gingell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: High Tech Watches
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:20:09 GMT
Reply-To: gingell@aurw6b.aur.alcatel.com.UUCP (Mike Gingell)
Organization: Alcatel Network Systems, Raleigh NC

Hey guys, sounds like its time for a new newsgroup - how about

comp.sys.wristtop

Seriously, though, I have a Seiko RC-1000 which is downloadable from
an RS232 port.  Its a nice watch apart from the fact that the backlight
is useless and you must read the display head on. It illegible when
viewed from a slight angle.  It has no alphanumeric entry from the
watch buttons (there are 6: time, lock, alarm, select, terminal and set).


Mike Gingell, Alcatel, Raleigh, NC USA  (919) 850-6444
UUCP:       ...!mcnc!aurgate!aurfs1!gingell
Internet:   gingell%aurfs1%aurgate@mcnc.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: f_quan@pavo.concordia.ca (QUAN, FEDERICO)
Subject: Re: High Teck Watches
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Concordia University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:53:00 GMT

In article <ajb.727986469@hela.iti.org>, ajb@iti.org (Al Boehnlein) writes...
> 
>Anybody have a favorite wrist watch out there?, Any Ideas?
> 
>ajb

My favorite watch is the one I'm wearing at this time.  It is a TAG HEUER 
with a stop watch, alarms, a rotating bezel.  It is made out of 
stainless steel and I've had it for about five years.  It will last another
20 before it has to be replaced.  Not bad for a watch...!!


Fred
f_quan@pavo.concordia.ca
CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: aghg1@cl.cam.ac.uk (A.G.H. Gibson)
Subject: C for the Psion Series 3
Keywords: C Psion
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:06:04 GMT

Does anyone know if it's possible to get another programming language (like C)
for the Psion Series 3. Preferably one that is compiled (ie. not just converted
to an intermediate code).

Thanx.
From: st901745@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Alastair M. Bor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: battery life/watches
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:12:37 GMT
Reply-To: st901745@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

Whats the expected life span of the battery in a Casio Databank? Both
my brother and I got one as gifts in Feb. of 1988. Since then my brother
has gone through 2 Databanks and is now using a 'normal' analog watch.
My databank is on its original battery. Also for the first 2 years the
alarm used to go off every day to wake me up in the morning for school. I
used the light quite often. For the last few years I have used the alarm
less frequently, but I still use the light. Just recently the display
started to get noticeable dimmer when I use the light. Also one must
consider that the battery has been draining since the date of manufacture,
not since Feb. 1988.
-Alastair Bor
st901745@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
From: sabrowsk@usc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Unsubscribe
Date: 28 Jan 1993 00:04:35 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
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Please Remove me from the mailing list.

sabrowsk@usc.edu

Thanks in advance-
Jeff Sabrowski
From: farber@linc.cis.upenn.edu (David Farber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: High Tech Watches
Date: 28 Jan 93 13:14:18 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania



I have a gold hp01 and still use it. It is heavy and a battery eater but it
is probably the best calculator watch ever built. I love it
David Farber; Prof. of CIS and EE, U of Penn, Philadelphia, PA 19104-6389 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: ajb@iti.org (Al Boehnlein)
Subject: Orginiser
Organization: Industrial Technology Institute
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:30:35 GMT


Since posting about watches, A friend suggested that watches are jewlery,
and to forget getting a calculator watch.  He suggested getting a 'real'
watch and an electronic orginiser for a calculator, phone book and
calender.  I would like one I could carry in my pocket, about the size of a
credit card, nor the size of a paperback.  I would also like to see
upload/download capability.

what do you guys use, and how do you like them, and what would you change
about them.


ajb
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Subject: Re: High Teck Watches
Reply-To: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:43:05 GMT

I've gone through a number of cool watches through the ages, all of
which I have in a drawer somewhere:

- A vintage Casio C-80 calculator watch...the first!  circa 1979
- A Casio CA-90 with that stupid little video game, circa 1981
- Seiko data watch...the one with the keyboard, circa 1984
- Casio SCIENTIFIC calculator watch, circa 1986...this one was great
  for high-school chem & physics
- Casio data bank, with alpha search, circa 1988

Now that I use an HP-48SX for math and keep my phone #'s in a Psion 3,
my current high tech watch is a Breitling Aerospace....rotating bezel,
quartz analog display with two multifunctional digital displays in back
of it, with functions available by rotating the crown to scroll though
them, and pushing or pulling it to activate the desired function.  Also
has a second, alternate time dial set into the edge of the band.



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From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: High Tech Watches
Date: 28 Jan 1993 00:52:13 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <2588@shaman.wv.tek.com> andrew@frip.wv.tek.com writes:
>Does noone else remember the HP-1?  The first calculator watch I ever
>saw, from Hewlett Packard in the 1970s.  Four functions, an equals key
>(no ENTER), and included a stylus that you used to push the buttons.
>$600 at fine jewelers everywhere.

Don't forget the fine gold case, too. I think it was officially the HP-01. I'd
like to lay hands on one in working condition, but probably couldn't afford
it. I remember a writeup in _HP Key Notes_ when it came out describing, among
other things, why the first HP product was called the 200A ("it sounded
important").

Anyone out there know if there was ever another HP product with a single digit
type number?
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad)
Subject: Re: High Teck Watches
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Distribution: inet
Date: 28 Jan 93 16:24:26 CST

In article <1777@stout.UUCP> gerard@STOUT.UUCP (Gerard van Draanen) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.150404.2221@doug.cae.wisc.edu> kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad) writes:
>>... stuff on CFX-200 layout/discussion deleted...
>
>The model I have is a CFX-40

I was wrong; I was calling a CFX-40 a CFX-200.

>So the options for High Tech. Watches must be ...
>  
>   Casio   CFX-40
Databank style case scientific calc. with normal means of selecting functions.
>            FX-70
What's this?
>           CFX-200 (Two models were described)
Nope, only one (I was wrong).  MANY (24?) buttons, "scanning" method of 
selecting scientific functions.
>           DBX-1000   <== This one seems to me to have all the options
>                          Discussion talks about multi-level alarm etc.
>I like the possible options for the 'future DBX-2000' with phone dialer....
>and have it Water Proof (till say.. 10 m. ... enaugh for most situations).
...and a scientific calculator and PC data link! :-)
>   Seiko   DATA-2000
>           RC-5000 (Vest pocket Watch with matrix display...
>                    used to be able to couple that to a PC like terminal...
>                    The last Ad I saw about it must have been in '87, and
>           RC-7000  Which --me thinks-- was its follow-up)
>
>As far as I know the RC5000/7000 series have been discontinued.
>
>I also would like to keep up with current possibilities, but most shop owners
>don't even have a model catalog anymore, since the models are changing so
>rapidly. 
>Maybe we can reach Casio Development people ... just to keep us informed.

Good idea.

						---Joel Kolstad
From: andrew@frip.WV.TEK.COM (Andrew Klossner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: High Tech Watches
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:11:36 GMT
Reply-To: andrew@frip.wv.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix Color Printers, Wilsonville, Oregon

Does noone else remember the HP-1?  The first calculator watch I ever
saw, from Hewlett Packard in the 1970s.  Four functions, an equals key
(no ENTER), and included a stylus that you used to push the buttons.
$600 at fine jewelers everywhere.

I still wear my Casio TC-600, a four-banger with a touch screen instead
of a button array.  One good scratch took out the touch screen and the
calculator functions, but I keep it because the alarm/timer functions
are good and because the display is the best I've seen.

  -=- Andrew Klossner  (andrew@frip.wv.tek.com)
                       (uunet!tektronix!frip.WV.TEK!andrew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: James.Gorak <James.Gorak@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Re: Psion 3 128 or 256?
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:17:05 GMT
Keywords: psion

In <1993Jan22.102441.2517@black.ox.ac.uk> uv94002@black.ox.ac.uk (Matt Millar) writes:

>I am seriously considering buying a Psion 3 for diary & database
>use.  I wanted to know the differences between the 128K and 256K
>versions, bearing in mind I doubt very much I will ever want to 
>use the spreadsheet.

In my opinion 256K is the only way to go. I don't think they will
be offering the 128K much longer.
-- 
James.Gorak@mixcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: vair0001@student.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: HP15C Wanted
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: Nation
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:02:25 GMT

Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: HP-15C - Wanted
Expires: 2/15/93
Distribution: Nation
Organization: University of Minnesota
Keywords: HP15C

I am posting this for a friend:
HP-15C Wanted.  If someone has one and wants to sell it please sent me
e-mail.
Thank you.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad)
Subject: Re: High Teck Watches
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Distribution: inet
Date: 26 Jan 93 10:45:28 CST

[Gee, looks like we're going to need a comp.sys.wristtop :-) ]

In article <1k35umINNdoe@emmental.csv.warwick.ac.uk> phudl@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr S J Liddicott) writes:
>
>Were you guys telling the truth about watch SCIENTIFIC calculators.
>I think you weren't, but I'd like to beleive you were....

Yes we were telling the truth about the scientific/base-n calculator
watch!

I still have my CFX-200 at home.  Great little watch; the only problem it
has was that you couldn't turn the key beep off.  This was strange
considering that the predecessor (which have a much less useable "scanning"
method of selecting functions) could have the beep toggled.

Right now, I have a Casio DBX-1000.  It's a touchscreen data bank watch
with a... 96x64? maybe? LCD display.  It does the standard phone
number/scheduling/memo functions of the data bank watches, along with a
(5 setpoint) alarm and stop watch.  It also will display a calendar so that 
you can see what day a certain date is.  It has a cute little world map that 
moves for the world time mode.  (Very impressive to the technically
ignorant.)  Finally, it has a standard four function calculator.  (Although 
VERY standard -- no memory, no square roots, etc.)

I have rather big fingers, and the touchscreen often thought that I was
hitting a part of the screen I wasn't when I first got it.  I've had it for
a little over a year now, and the touchscreen is much better -- it hardly
ever misinterprets what I'm hitting.

My wish list for a DBX-2000 would be: a wireless computer interface so that
you could back up the memory!, a better (scientific? heh!) calculator that
at least knows algebraic precedence, and perhaps more memory and a better
calendar (linked to your schedule) function.

Unfortunately, this watch isn't exactly cheap:  List price is $250, and the
best price I've seen is about $150.  It does have a metal case, and it
looks pretty good, so you won't be hampered by "geek watch fear" unless you
start pecking at the screen. :-)

					---Joel Kolstad
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin)
Subject: Re: Owner's review of Gateway 2000 HANDBOOK
Organization: Telebit Corporation; Sunnyvale, CA, USA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:16:18 GMT

Thanks for the thoughtful, informative review.  Some questions though:

1. How do you like the screen, compared to the T1000se say?

2. How much does the ram expansion card cost?  Is it PCMCIA compatible?
   Can you set it up as a disk, like the T1000SE?

3. Is an internal modem available?  If so, what speed and cost?

4. How large is the AC adapter and how much does it weigh?


My personal preference would be for a machine of this class with
PCMCIA slots and no disk, but still with the larger-than-ZEOS keyboard
and the backlit display.  Could get weight down to 2 lbs and extend
battery life.  The noise of the disk bothers me as much as its weight
and power consumption.  Of course, there could be the option of
installing a PCMCIA type III disk-in-a-card...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: bes38869@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The Bard Duelak   )
Subject: New, in the box 95LX's for sale
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 04:30:13 GMT

      I have three, new, never been used HP 95LX's w/ 1Mb of
 Ram for sale.  I also have the Connectivity pack from HP
 for the PC.  Like I said, they are new, and still under warranty. 
      EduCalc sells the 95 w/1Mb for $589, and the Connectivity 
 pack for $79.95.  I just want to get rid of these, and am selling
 the 95 w/ the pack for $540 each.  If interested, please E-mail
 me at bes38869@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu .

 - Blair

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun)
Subject: S3: Re: Psion 3 128 or 256?
Summary: ^^ Put an S3: here so we can find Series3 posts, also use palmtops
Keywords: psion
Organization: City University, London
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 17:21:28 GMT

uv94002@black.ox.ac.uk (Matt Millar) writes:
>Yo!
>
>I am seriously considering buying a Psion 3 for diary & database
>use.  I wanted to know the differences between the 128K and 256K
>versions, bearing in mind I doubt very much I will ever want to 
>use the spreadsheet.

Definately the 256K version. If you cannot afford the 256K then
_dont_ get the 128K version, save up for the 256K.

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