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From: loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore)
Subject: Re: Ring for sale (The ballad of a Guy & Girl)
Organization: staff hacker @ Yale Haskell project
	<1992Sep6.220548.20074@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 18:24:33 GMT

tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:

   >Ever notice how occasionally people just vanish?  Spooky...

   Maybe there's some 
   psychotic killer or mysterious extradimensional force that is going
   after the contributors to soc.singles one by one.  

No, it doesn't take anything that weird.  My apparent absence recently
was due to a dead news daemon that was refusing to pass on any articles
I posted to the outside world.  No psychotic killer, no mysterious force!

   --let's see, I wonder if I cou

Uh-oh.  Have we lost poor Trygve?  :-(  This newsgroup just wouldn't be
the same without him....

-Sandra
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Subject: Re: Too Much of Anything is ...
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:51:24 GMT

In article <BuDJrM.4or@belay> buick@belay (Patrick D. Buick) writes:
>>In <1992Sep3.142709.25575@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>>>But take the scenario a step further.  You're IN that situation.  You've
>>>gotten yourself into this monagamous commitment with someone and now
>>>you find that their life revolves around sex.
>>>I have to wonder about people who'd be happy in that situation, as opposed
>>>to those who *think* they'd be happy in that situation.
>
>Not that you said it Nance, but this applies to men, too...

I was responding to a man.

-Nance
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From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: "We're all normal here"
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:42:26 GMT
Reply-To: dhardin@spcink.bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <1992Sep15.182146.11205@cs.yale.edu> loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore) writes:
>martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>
>   Oh, Sandra, you know all the angles.
>
>Is that a complement?  I still have another trig up my sleeve too.
>And, don't you like the divergence of this thread from its original
>topic?

I guess Charlie just isn't the right poisson to discuss normality.  But
I wouldn't want to gauss who around here is.  

(Ugh.  Next time I'll leave this gamma to somebody else.  I'll be lucky 
if .5% of the readership cauchy's all these references.)

Dawn
"Oh, Time!  Of all the dwellers here below 
You only elevate buffoons or fools,
Or him whose anus as an inkstand serves."
The Perfumed Garden of the Shaykh Nefzawl, translated by Sir Richard F. Burton
From: v105l4lg@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (c pierre)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: A lurker goes to California
Summary: Have a good time there
Keywords: Good luck !!
Date: 9 Sep 92 09:45:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <BuALv8.A07@acsu.buffalo.edu>, lewocz@acsu.buffalo.edu (John S. Lewocz) writes...
>Hi All,

>I'm scheduled for an interview with a Bay Area company next Fri, the 18th,
>and, this being my first trip to the state of California, I was wondering
>in anyone would volunteer to show me the sights.  I'll be arriving around
>noon on Thursday and leaving late Sat evening. 

	Greetings there good buddy !!

	If you can, try and rent a car and buy a map in the process, because	
that place is quite treacherous. Yes, in the blink of an eye you would be
naked and broke around those folks. Party animals you see !!

	 I again suspect that you would be looking for an eyeopener too, so
drive to Navada and look for the M. Ranch. Dude, you would leave there with
a profound smile on your face, languishing in the after thought. On your way
in ask to speak to the young woman in charge then just mention my name. Heck,
you would be treated like a king in that place. You would surprise the worth
of a couple of quids in that establishment.

				 Good luck with your job interview!
					
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Desperation (was Re: Commitment--The C-word?)
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:43:43 GMT

In article <ewillims.716117683@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie
(Emma Williams) writes:

>	You're saying you'd like to have an SO who smells like a 
>freshly cooked pizza all the time? (*GRIN*)

Now where did I put that description of the perfect woman... :-)

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: buick@belay (Patrick D. Buick)
Subject: Re: hello?
Organization: Belay Enterprises Inc. Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 17:43:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.163342.3600@wvnvms.wvnet.edu> un030025@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:
>Hello there everyone. Just out of curiosity, where are ya all writing from? I'm
>here at West Virginia University. I gotta admit that some of these messages are
>pretty funny. Just out meating people.
			^^^^^^^

I *HOPE* this is a typo... :-) :-) [grin.. giggle... titter titter]

>
>Later.

You can see from my Organization line where I'm from..

Patrick
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From: swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Where the best posts come from
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:38:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UB

In article <1992Sep14.205526.7184@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>In article <4197@moscom.UUCP> wjb@moscom.com writes:
>>james.j.dutton (jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com) wrote:
>>:  Sorry I was up most of the night during a thunder storm because
>>: my 2 year old insisted a tomato was going to get her.
>>Did it?
>
>No tornado's that night.

I see she's going to be a creative grammarian like her daddy.  

:-)

-- 
Steve Swann                 |    Speak to me in many voices; make
swann@acsu.buffalo.edu      |      them all sound like one...  -BOC
From: dy@depsych.Gwinnett.COM (Dr. Yes)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Various ramblings...
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:16:06 GMT

fredw@mks.com (Fred Walter) writes:

> dy@depsych.Gwinnett.COM (Dr. Yes) writes:
> 
> >The friends you describe as having an old-fashioned resentment for someone
> >whom they suspect may be more intelligent than they are are probably working
> >in fields where there is a relative labor shortage so minimal skills
> >are still comfortably rewarded.
> 
> Or they are unemployed. Or they have low-to-no self-esteem (that 'if they
> are doing better than me than I am doing *worse* than them and am less of
> a person' problem). Or they have a bad self-image (see the previous sentence)

OK.  No point in running this thread into the ground since we
agree 99.9 per cent.  I just think that roughly since the Arab oil
boycott of 1973 when manufacturing jobs started to dry up and
corporate mergers and restructuring tended to erode job security
that intelligence is seen as a more desirable trait because of its
survival value.  People with either attractive personalities or
aggressive, hard-driving personalities used to do better in
America than they do now.  I recall reading some sociology papers
from the 20s and 30s which suggested that intelligence was almost
a negative in schools, factories and companies.

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: michele@dgbt.doc.ca (Michele Guillet)
Subject: Re: "want" vs "need"
Organization: The Communications Research Centre
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 13:52:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.034008.24560@csi.uottawa.ca> misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel) writes:
>
>   Suppose you had a *choice* between finding a cure for cancer and 
>having a family.  Which would you choose?  If you knew for sure that you
>*could* find a cure for cancer, wouldn't choosing not to find it make 
>you unhappy?
Finding a cure for cancer (or any type of "professsional" achievements)
cannot be compared to the filling of an emotional need. They are different
things and fulfilling one doesn't fulfill the other (and vice et versa).
I am not saying that one is better than the other they are just different.

To give an analogy, suppose you had the choice between all the food
you want or all the drinks you want. Which one would be more satisfying. 
A number of food have a high water content and a number of liquids
have have energy content. In theory, you could probably survive
on either diet but that's not the type of choice that would
be satisfying.
>
>> For me, the most *desirable* MOTASs would be ones that I loved.
>
>   Suppose you were omniscient or something, and you *knew* that the
>MOTAS you didn't love were not inferior to the MOTAS you loved.
>Wouldn't that make you feel a *little* bit silly?

Not at all. Love, for me has nothing to do with the "value" of a person
but with shared intimacy, complementarity, shared history,
complicity, how much I like myself when I am with these people.

That's not a competition. I don't "trade up" friends, relatives,
SO, or pets. What is of value in these cases if the relationship,
not the value of the individuals.

I have close relationships with my father, my sister for example
and they are far from being perfect. I could find lots of people
as good as them but they wouldn't shared the history that my father 
or my sister and I shared. They wouldn't have known me in good and bad
time and be there for me.  

The same is true with a SO, all men aren't interchangable as SO,
for me even if they can all be of comparable value. Specially not
once a relationship has developed.



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3701 Carling Avenue, Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA, K2H 8S2	tel:613-998-2384
Internet: michele@dgbt.doc.ca	
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: pnh@fcsparc6.ncifcrf.gov (Paul N Hengen)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: The Engaged Psychobitch from Hell Syndrome
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:39:23 GMT
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center

In article <1992Sep15.005935.25638@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
 helz@ecn.purdue.edu (Randall A Helzerman) writes:

:>You meet this new girl.  A quick finger-scan for rings gives you an all-clear
:>signal.  You ask her out.  A real nice date or two.  Then right before
:>things get too serious, she tells you she's engaged.

:>I can't tell you how many times this has happened to me.  I've even given
:>it a name:  The "Engaged Psychobitch from Hell" syndrome.

:>Can "you all out there in netland" explain to me what would cause a woman
:>to do this?  And how can I avoid such sillyness in the future?


This is an easy one. She didn't want to see you ever again period.
The best way to avoid this is to not ask her out again. The key is
in the first paragraph above. The relationship was "just about to
get serious" in your opinion. You were just waiting for it to get
that way. Instead of asking her out again (you really couldn't see
it coming?), just start looking the other way. If she wants to get
serious, she'll come around or call you. BTW, she wasn't engaged.
She lied to you. It somehow seems easier than telling the truth.
For some odd reason, she thought this would not hurt your feelings.
I for one would rather be told directly and honestly. Now put yourself
in her shoes. Could you do the same thing given the same circumstance?
Would you rather be hurt or lied to? Personally, both of these would
cause a big flashing red sign to appear in my head that says:
"FORGET HER!"...

-Paul.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore)
Subject: Re: Desperation (was Re: Commitment--The C-word?)
Organization: staff hacker @ Yale Haskell project
	<ewillims.715600678@unix1.tcd.ie> <1992Sep9.071115.446@dmpe.csiro.au>
	<ewillims.716025009@unix1.tcd.ie>
	<kiran.716107593@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 07:56:45 GMT

I gotta agree with Kiran on this one:  musk smells awful.  Of course, I'm
one of those people who thinks just about all commercial perfumes smell
terrible.  Sometimes I find it hard not to retch when I get a whiff of
the stuff some people soak themselves with....  

Garlic, olive oil, and yeast bread aromas would be a definite improvement.
So would chocolate smells.  :-)

-Sandra
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: hays@TECHNET.NM.ORG (Larry 'Purple' Hays)
Subject: Re: Tallllll women....
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 19:41:59 GMT
Organization: New Mexico Technet   Albuquerque, NM
Reply-To: hays@TECHNET.NM.ORG

In article <1992Sep7.022547.29338@peponi.wcc.govt.nz>, parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>
>It would appear that all the tall men in the world live in the US.

Yes, along with many of us who are merely 6'

>Anybody giving away 'plane tickets from NZ => US ???

No, not exactly GIVING 'em away, but you might be interested in my own
personal Indentured Servant program.  Shouldn't take you more than oh, say, 
three years to work off the plane fare, assuming you don't require food
and lodgings...

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Larry 'Purple' Hays                                     hays@technet.nm.org

                "It's not just a job.  It's an indenture."
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: gds@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
Subject: Re: Singles Bar (Why would you want one?)
Originator: gds@oahu.cs.ucla.edu
Reply-To: gds@cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
Organization: in your face!
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 15:51:46 GMT

Josh Diamond writes:
>> I think my problem with the concept is the fact that there is
>> absolutely no purpose for these places other than bringing bodies
>> together.  I would much rather meet people through common activities
>> than through the fact that we both happened to be drinking mediocre
>> beer in an overcrowded bar.  

Drinking is a common activity.  In Europe, people get together and go
to the neighborhood tavern.  This aspect of social drinking seems to
be lost on the US, where bars are advertised as places to get drunk
and pick someone up.

>> My suggestion to the original poster is to avoid singles bars like the
>> plague.  Try getting involved in some group activities instead.  You
>> are much more likely to meet someone and create a relationship there
>> than in the "meat market".

Hmmm.  I wonder how true that is?  You make it sound like by
definition, no MOTAS worth meeting would go to a singles bar.  You
might be surprised.

A friend of mine met his current SO in a singles bar near here.
(Stratton's in Westwood, actually.  It's a little too yuppie for my
tastes, but it's otherwise ok.)  Before that, he hadn't had much luck
finding an SO, despite being a student on a campus with a fairly
balanced male/female ratio.  They're still together and seem very
close.

I think if you like bars, you should go to bars, and hope you find a
compatible person.

--gregbo
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark)
Subject: Re: Finding Romantic Partners (long)
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:45:08 GMT

In article <ewillims.714822159@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:
>>Hmmm...I think we need to conduct careful experiments to determine which
>>technique is the most effective.  How's about you show up at my laboratory
>>wearing nothing at all and I'll be there without my sweater and we'll see
>>what happens?
>	
>	laboratory???  Isn't that another word for your dungeon??
>Don't you chain people up in your dungeon? (*GRIN*)

My dun -- laboratory, provides a greater number of comforts, such as wall to
wall carpeting, panelled walls, and even the chains are made of silk (*GRIN*)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: Tallllll women....
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 03:08:34 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <ymmnyd-@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:

>It doesn't matter- but it is _much_ nicer to date a woman that you can look
>straight in the eye, and not straight over her head.

I'm no tower (a mere 6' or a little better), but I've towered over some
of my dates.  Like the 5'0" Chinese lady.  And the 5'1-and-3/4" woman I
got very serious about.  The latter was just fine.  I would have enjoyed
her with longer, nicer legs, but it was kinda fun to rest my chin on the
top of her head.  Boy, did _that_ used to piss her off!  :-)

I'd have to say that it really doesn't matter, though :-)

Rob T
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark)
Subject: Re: Tallllll women....
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 00:47:21 GMT

In article <29110@hydra.Helsinki.FI> taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina) writes:
>Height doesn't matter unless you let it matter.   The world is full of
>people who like you the way you are instead of the way you look like.
>We can't do much to our height anyway.
>
>If I remember right there was/is a 5'7" - 5'9" basketball player in
>NBA.  Anyone remember him?

Yes, I do.  I even know his name and the team he played for (Kanses City
Kings).  :)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: liz@prc.unisys.com (Liz Loquacious)
Subject: Re: 'What the hell kind of a world do we live in...'
Followup-To: soc.singles
Organization: Paramax Systems
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:18:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.183131.28794@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
|> 
|> Bill do you go to a lot of party's?
|>  

The guy can party James....didn't see you at the Boston Boink though.  Missed
a good one....details to follow!

Liz Loquacious
From: infante@acpub.duke.edu (Andrew  Infante)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: chemistry / love at first sight : fact or fiction?
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:05:38 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

<stuff about attraction deleted>

>Well, do you guys feel the same way?  Do you hate it if the woman makes
>it too obvious that she can't live without you?  Actually, I'm sure you
>probably do...I have heard men complain before about "clingy" women!
> 
<sigs deleted>

I for one kinda _like_ feeling wanted that way.

If a woman is attracted to me such that (after going out/dating/being together
etc) she feels she needs to be with me all the time, it reaffirms my
sense of well-being.

Granted, it might take many relationships to get past a point where one
_needs_ to be with another to have that sense of being, but isn't
that why people spend that kind of quality time together in the first place?

I mean, really, if two people are attracted to each other, start going out
with each other, _feel_ something about each other (yeah, what's love got
to do with it (blatant ripoff from Tina Turner :)) blah, blah, blah, then 
why not have a mutual devotion? 

If the devotion is one-sided, obviously the one that is not devoted is
going to feel pressured.

But, that pressure was his/her own fault.

my opinion.

later.

andy
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Re: A lurker goes to California
Organization: Pomona College
Distribution: usa
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:35:41 PDT

In article <w7tngp+.tyger@netcom.com>, tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle) writes:
> 
> I am pretty sure it's spelled right, but it *could* be the wrong word, I
> suppose. The IRS was involved in the demise of the aforementioned Ranch, 
> but I didn't think the issue was tax *evasion*. I might be wrong, but I
> hardly ever am...;)

It was appropriated for nonpayment of backtaxes by the owner.  The IRS
actually ran it for a few weeks until some right wing fundamentalists
got wind of the fact that the government was in the prostitution business
and forced them to shut it down.  It was eventually sold, and through a
series of events that are not clear to me, I believe it is now open again
and once again owned by the individual who owned it when all this started.

And no, I've never been there.  But if anyone has and is willing to admit
it, please e-mail me.  I've got a few questions about prices and such.

Now, what the hell am I doing back in this group?

--
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|     A man's best friends:  a Harley, a Beretta and a Gund.     |
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: Brodney Beats on L.A.P.D
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 02:47:51 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <1992Sep15.225353.27514@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>In article <9209122211.AA13601@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com> GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu ("Broward "Layman" Horne") writes:
>>
>>       I'm absolutely astounded that I've been listed as MIA.  I mean,
>>   isn't that the whole POINT of this newsgroup?
>
>Not at all--sure, there are some people out there in search of a 
>relationship, but for those of us who gave up long ago, the point
>is entertainment value.  (After all, being able to turn on a
>terminal and be greeted with all sorts of friendly electronic words
>is a marvelous substitute for having someone to come home to.)

Actually, for some of us, this forms a wonderful complement to a
relationship -- not to mention the public compliments one can slide
oh-so-gracefully.
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

IRWTFM -- and that ain't fun
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rray@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Randy J. Ray)
Subject: Re: Hey...where are the Colorado people?
Organization: US WEST Communications, Inc. -- Denver, CO
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:33:57 GMT

Well, I work in Denver and live in Lakewood. Close enough?

Randy
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