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From: swaim@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Parks Swaim)
Subject: Re: Knowledge is power...
Organization: Rice University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 00:07:24 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.143444.6724@newstand.syr.edu> cjohnson@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Carl A. Johnson) writes:
>		How can most of the people who post here possibly justify
>their postings?  I mean, 4 out of 5 people in this group (at least, who post)
>simply do not have a large base knowledge of Piers Anthony.  This, to me and
>I am sure others, seems rather ironic since this IS alt.FAN.piers-anthony.

 Which means that it's for people who like reading books by Anthony. It
doesn't mean that they should have to track down everything he's read, and
hang onto every utterance from on high. People should be allowed to dislike
some of his stuff.
 For example, to me, Xanth was first rate "adult" fantasy. I started reading
it with _The Source of Magic._  (I guess that dates me.) I stopped regularly
reading it with _Dragon on a Pedastal_ because it had changed into something
I really wasn't interested in. I know of four other people who also dropped
the series around that book, so it's not just me.
  I know a lot of people like later Xanth, but it's not the same. The later
stories are MUCH simpler than the early ones, and I just don't find them
that interesting. If I want to put my mind on hold, I'll read folklore.
The stories are funnier, and what's going to happen isn't telegraphed 100
pages in advance.

  BTW, I agree that Battle Circle is one of PA's best. A word of warning
to those who've only read Xanth. It's MUCH more intense.

Mike Swaim


-- 
Mike Swaim            | Canada will become the next world power
swaim@owlnet.rice.edu | and they will work to ENSLAVE all the nations
Disclamer: I lie      | of your planet. -Ricardo
Cthulhu in '92! The stars are right!
From: s921886@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (James Chun Ng)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
Subject: list of Xanth books
Date: 3 Oct 92 23:45:56 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
Summary: this is a list of all Xanth books 4 now and future
Keywords: xanth

Hi guys, this is my second ever post to this group (the first didn't make it)
and I'm not very impressed at the level of PIERS ANTHONY knowledge shown on
this group. For a bunch of fanboys (as my bookseller calls me), none of you
have mentioned the list of Xanth books that will be coming out in the next
few years. So here is a list of all known Xanth books PLUS the ones that will
be coming out after that...

X1	A Spell for Chameleon
X2	The Source of Magic
X3	Castle Roogna
X4	Centaur Aisle
X5	Ogre, Ogre
X6	Night Mare
X7	Dragon on a Pedestal
X8	Crewel Lye: A Caustic Yarn
X9	Golem in the Gears
X10	Vale of the Vole
X11	Heaven Cent
X12	Man from Mundania
X13	Isle of View
X14	Question Quest
X15	The Color of her Panties
X16	Deamons Don't Dream*
X17	Harpy Thyme*
X18	Geis of the Gargoyle*

* Forthcoming

This list was taken from Piers Anthony's Visual Guide to Xanth and at the time
of print X13 onwards were marked as forthcoming so you can see that Piers will
almost definately (bar death) write up the remaining three books.

Thanks for reading and I hope this post gets through.

				PA Fanboy
				Daniel Huang
				s921886@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
				aiesec@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
From: IO20393@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
Subject: Re: Incarnations
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:25:52 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

actually, i liked Firefly!  It reminded me of Dean Koontz.  I don't think
the sex in Firefly was really there for the sake of sex.  It seemed more
to emphasize the horror and primevel fear.  (We are slave to our instincts
and all that).  The only part I considered pornographic (as in overly
sexually explicit) was the scene in which the child seduced her father.
(or rather, was molested by him)  I did not need to read an explicit
description of child molestation to know how horrible it is.

amy rae
From: natek@wpi.WPI.EDU (D Nathan King)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
Subject: re:fractal mode
Date: 30 Sep 1992 05:15:59 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

Fractal Mode came out a long time ago, but was released only in hardcover.
What I want to know is if it will ever be released in paperback.


Kilteer
From: IO20776@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
Subject: Re: Incarnations
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:05:21 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System


            Piers anthony is a great writer but he does tend to emphasis
sex a little to much in his books. The most extreme example is his venture
into horror in the book "firefly". His emphasis was more on sex than horror,

......  not exactly what I expected.
From: ledzian@remus.rutgers.edu (LEDZIAN)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
Subject: fractal mode
Date: 30 Sep 92 03:22:42 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Does anyone know when the sequal to Virtual Mode, Fractal Mode, is
going to be released if at all?
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 92 19:49:52 CST
From:         C09615DK@wuvmd.wustl.edu
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD
Subject:      IMHO??
Newsgroups:   alt.fan.piers-anthony

What is IMHO?? I've seen it somewhere else, and I'm not even sure that it's at
a
related to piers anthony, and if it isn't, sorry.

But someone please tell me anyway.  Thanx.

--Dan K
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
Subject: Incarnations
From: news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 20:10:51 GMT
Organization: DSIR, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Summary: Last two books

Well, I've just finished reading the last two books in the Incarnations 
series. I read the opinions on this net before the last book and tened to 
believe them as I started to read it. 

However, I like the final couple of chapters and this has put the book back 
into favour. Still, there WAS too much emphasis on sex. Surely there are 
other ways that Orlene's evil might have been increased?

I'm looking forward to reading this Tantham Mound book as soon as I can find 
it. I'm very sorry about the fate that befell the Indians in America and it 
will be interesting reading. As you all might know, a similar fate happened 
to the native Maoris here in New Zealand, although Maoris have in general, 
adjusted to western society a lot better than most indigenous peoples.

API
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
From: davis@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Barbara Davis)
Subject: Re: The Color of Her Panties
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:10:21 GMT

C09615DK@wuvmd.wustl.edu writes:

>I just (about a week and a half ago) finished reading the latest addition to
>the Xanth series, as I am a loyal fan of the series, and realized two things.

>1)  Piers Anthony writes very much for children.  The book was decent, being
>the only light reading I've had in a while, but I was somewhat disappointed in
>this installment of Xanth.

We have had this discussion before in this group.  IMO PA writes for the child
within us and certainly not for actual children.  There is too much satire
and too many puns for a child to understand.

>2)  He does try very much to write for "adults".  What I mean by this is:
>(Example:) Shel Siverstein (The Giving Tree, A Light in the Attic, the A to Z
>Book, and many others) writes mainly for children, but his books are entertain-
>ing no matter what age group you are in (at least I still enjoy them).  This is
>excluding his "A to Z Book", which hopefully he did not write for children to
>read.

PA does write for adults, he doesn't just *try* to write for adults.  The
scope of his success is not based on sales to children!

I am also not convinced that Shel writes for actual children.  Although I
have used lots of his things in my classroom, I have not seen kids pick up
his books and read them to themselves.  Again, IMO, he writes for the child
within us.

>To my point, I found TCOHP somewhat lacking in appeal.  It just seemed that the
>style and the story itself was so childish, although the theme would be quite
>difficult for a child to really understand.

The book is wonderfully silly and his books are not childish.  You are correct
when you say that children could not understand his books.

Barb
-- 
Barbara G. Davis                       Internet:  davis@ucsu.colorado.edu
University of Colorado, Boulder 

                   If I don't ask, you can't say, "Yes!".
From: bruce@uxb.liv.ac.uk (Bruce Stephens)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
Subject: Re: BattleCircle
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:15:50 GMT
	<1992Oct5.133255.20413@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>
Organization: Centre for Mathematical Software Research, Univ. Liverpool, UK

>>>>> On 5 Oct 92 13:32:55 GMT, apash@mta.ca said:

> In article <BvMDqK.J0s@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>, rsimmons@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Bass) writes:
>>
>>    I agree Battle Circle was an excellent series. The only other trilogy
>  of P.A.'s that I know of is Omnivore,Ox and Orn (sorry I can't remember
>  the actual name of the trilogy),unfortunately I've only had the chance to
>  read Orn but it was very good. I can never seem to get hold of the other
>  two.:-(

"Of Man and Mantra"?  I'm fairly sure that's a trilogy, and I think
it's the one that contains Omnivore, etc.
--
Bruce Stephens.  Centre for Mathematical Software Research, Liverpool Univ.
Internet: bruce@uxb.liv.ac.uk     JANET: bruce@uk.ac.liv.uxb
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
From: davis@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Barbara Davis)
Subject: Re: The best PA has to offer...
Keywords: Incarnations, Fuentes, Macroscope
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:59:17 GMT

cjohnson@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Carl A. Johnson) writes:



>	Hello everyone!  This is my first posting to a newsgroup anywhere,
>anytime, anyhow, etc...

Welcome.

>	I know the best...

>	PA's best series is, of course, the Incarnations of Immortality.

NOT

>	Has everyone read Macroscope???  Please do!  It is the pinnacle of 
>PA's Science Fiction writing.  Because he writes very little PURE Science
>Fiction, that is not saying much...  Nonetheless, it is a very good book.  
>Read it.

Have and I agree, it is excellent!

Barb
-- 
Barbara G. Davis                       Internet:  davis@ucsu.colorado.edu
University of Colorado, Boulder 

                   If I don't ask, you can't say, "Yes!".
From: carlos@dorsai.com (Carlos Dominguez)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
Subject: Re: The best PA has to offer...
Keywords: Incarnations, Fuentes, Macroscope
Date: 3 Oct 92 18:48:45 GMT
Organization: The Dorsai Embassy, New York's Computer Consulate. +1.718.729.5018

cjohnson@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Carl A. Johnson) writes:

> 
> 	PA's best series is, of course, the Incarnations of Immortality.
> No other series produced by the great one or anyone else can ever compare.
> The power and raw emotion that is fed into those novels is amazing.  There
> is no substitute.
 
I most wholeheartedly agree :)
 
> 
> 	Now, who was complaning about too much sex in the last two books...
> Every iota of foreplay/intercourse/afterglow pertained to the story and 
> contributed to the overall effect.  I will however digress and admit that PA
> occationally goes overboard on detail (Actually describing defication/urinati
> in the Mode Series).
> 

I think by showing us the graphic side of human reality, PA gave his
characters qualities that we all could identify with.. I never got
into xanth, but I have all the IOA books, most in hardcover!
 
Welcome fellow PA enthusiast.. Call 1-800-HI-PIERS to join the
fan club,k (no joke, i got this number from a post here, and its
excellent!)
 
>>Carlos<<
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
From: apash@mta.ca
Subject: Re: BattleCircle
Reply-To: apash@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:32:55 GMT

In article <BvMDqK.J0s@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>, rsimmons@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Bass) writes:
>
>    I agree Battle Circle was an excellent series. The only other trilogy
 of P.A.'s that I know of is Omnivore,Ox and Orn (sorry I can't remember
 the actual name of the trilogy),unfortunately I've only had the chance to
 read Orn but it was very good. I can never seem to get hold of the other
 two.:-(
                                             Anthony Pash

                               
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
From: spreader@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU (Andrew E. Turner)
Subject: Re: re:fractal mode
Organization: University of Maine Department of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:55:21 GMT

Virtual Mode came out in paper back, so I don't see why the Fractal Mode
wouldn't come out in paper back.
From: abradfor@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Spindled Among Fleas)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
Subject: Re: BattleCircle
Date: 5 Oct 92 06:01:17 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <BvMDqK.J0s@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> rsimmons@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Bass) writes:

>      However, BattleCircle is different for this reason:

>		PA kept this trilogy down to THREE books!!
>
>      Not only this, but it is an excellent series.  If you haven't read it, I
>suggest that you do.  It's set in a post-nuclear era and is simply superb.  If
>you have read it, I'd like to see your opinions on the net.

	Yes, a very good book. I think he was not as idealistic with his
characters then, and they are therefore quite a bit more interesting.

>      This is the only three book trilogy I've seen by PA but would like to 
>know if there are any others out there.  I'm sure others would too.
>

	There's also the Omnivore - Orn - OX trilogy (I think it was originally
called just "Omnivore" as a whole, then later retitled "Of Man and Manta").
It's a bit more on the intellectual side than BattleCircle, and may have been
the first place he played around with alternate realities (something that crops
up quite a bit in his later books).

>	They call me Bass.

They call me things I won't repeat here. =) =) =)
From: zweldron@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Matthew Charlap)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
Subject: Re: Trilogies...
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:11:58 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

cclark@trentu.ca (J. Chris Clark) writes:
>Well, you've remebered the Ox-Orn-Omnivore series, and the Tarot series,
>but I haven't see anyone mention The Cluster-Viscious Circle-(can't recall
>the third one).  I never actually read this series, so I'm not sure what the
>order is, or if it was an "official trilogy".  
>BING!  "Chaining the Lady" was the third one, I believe.  Anyway, these are 
>older books, dating to at least the Omnivore/Tarot era.

Actually, the Cluster series is five books, not three. One of the other
two books was called "thousandstar" I don't remember the 5th.
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Fri, 02 Oct 92 15:23:46 CST
From:         C09615DK@wuvmd.wustl.edu
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD
Subject:      The Color of Her Panties
Newsgroups:   alt.fan.piers-anthony

I just (about a week and a half ago) finished reading the latest addition to
the Xanth series, as I am a loyal fan of the series, and realized two things.

1)  Piers Anthony writes very much for children.  The book was decent, being
the only light reading I've had in a while, but I was somewhat disappointed in
this installment of Xanth.

2)  He does try very much to write for "adults".  What I mean by this is:
(Example:) Shel Siverstein (The Giving Tree, A Light in the Attic, the A to Z
Book, and many others) writes mainly for children, but his books are entertain-
ing no matter what age group you are in (at least I still enjoy them).  This is
excluding his "A to Z Book", which hopefully he did not write for children to
read.
To my point, I found TCOHP somewhat lacking in appeal.  It just seemed that the
style and the story itself was so childish, although the theme would be quite
difficult for a child to really understand.

Anyway, this has been --Dan K
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
From: popiel@kinglear.cs.colorado.edu (T. Alexander Popiel)
Subject: Re: Flame Alert!!!!
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:54:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.063225.16591@newstand.syr.edu> cjohnson@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Carl A. Johnson) writes:
>
>	Not to sound TOO cruel or anything, but there must be a FAQ or
>something on abbreviations.

Indeed there is.  It is posted regularly to news.announce.newusers.

>	(By the way, if anyone feels nice enough to tell me how to drag
>another's letter into your own using Pnews, you can email me... thanks
>in advance.)

With both rn and trn, using capital F to followup includes the previous
posting when invoking Pnews.  It does this with the
'Pnews -h headerfile oldarticle' syntax of the command.

>						-Carl-

- T. Alexander Popiel (popiel@colorado.edu)
From: s921886@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (James Chun Ng)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
Subject: New PA books in Hardcover
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:08:03 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
Summary: Some new books just released by PA
Keywords: PA


Hey everyone, i just came from my favourite bookseller today and look what
I found, two new Piers Anthony hardcovers. Unfortunately a few other hardcovers
came out this month as well namely "The Legacy" by R.A. Salvatore and the new
David Eddings trilogy. The two new hardcovers by PA were "the Caterpillar's
Question" co-authored by Philip Jose Farmer and "Alien Plot" which is a  
collection of short stories. Faced with this problem of too many hardcovers
and not enough hard cash, I bought "the Legacy" and "The Caterpillar's Question"

The inside cover of the books says...
	"Jack, a struggling art student, is hired to drive a mute, crippled
	girl across the country. Tappy Concord can barely communicate, but
	something about her touches Jack, so much that he follows her into
	the mountains-and through the gateway to another world.

	There he finds himself surrounded by strange, alien creatures, and
	pursued by the relentless agents of the Gaol, an all-powerful
	galactic empire. Only one force in all the cosmos can hope to
	overcome the tyranny of the Gaol: The Imago, an immortal spirit
	capable of evolving into a being of immense power. The Imago can be
	anywhere or anyone...maybe even a crippled human girl.

	The Catapillar's Question is a world-spanning science fiction
	odysey-as only Piers Anthony and Philip Jose Farmer could tell it."

I haven't atarted reading this book yet but I'll probably finish it next week
but if anyone has read this book or Alien Plot can you give your opinions on
them so that everyone else knows what the books is about and if it is worth
shelling out hard earned cash for. (For all you Piers anthony FANBOYS and   
FANGIRLS out there like me, you'll buy them anyway.)

Well, it's time to sleep now so hope to hear from you guys and gals soon.

					PA FANBOY
					Daniel Huang
					s921886@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
					aiesec@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au

P.S.  :	Yes, I know the name on the account says James Ng but only I use it.
P.S.S.: And yes I'am an AIESECer ad proud of it. If any of you AIESECers are
	out there mail me ASAP.
From: swaim@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Parks Swaim)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
Subject: Re: BattleCircle
Date: 5 Oct 92 10:51:25 GMT
Organization: Rice University

In article <BvMDqK.J0s@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> rsimmons@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Bass) writes:
>      This is the only three book trilogy I've seen by PA but would like to 
>know if there are any others out there.  I'm sure others would too.

  There's also the Tarot series. It deals with religion. I think that someone
posted that it was origionally supposed to be one book, but the publishers
insisted he split it up.


-- 
Mike Swaim            | Canada will become the next world power
swaim@owlnet.rice.edu | and they will work to ENSLAVE all the nations
Disclamer: I lie      | of your planet. -Ricardo
Cthulhu in '92! The stars are right!
From: IO20393@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
Subject: re:fractal mode
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:36:42 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

I took Fractal Mode out from the library (hard cover) months ago, and
I live in rural maine.  That usually means that paperback editions have
been out for years of they're ever going to be.  Maybe he's not doing paper
with the mode series!
                      amy rae
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
From: djoiner@lonestar.utsa.edu (David A. Joiner)
Subject: Re: Bio-of a Space Tyrant
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:29:27 GMT

In article <92268.211415C09615DK@wuvmd.wustl.edu> C09615DK@wuvmd.wustl.edu writes:
>Hi, there, Piers Anthony fans.  I'm sort of a new face to this section of the
>network, but I must say that I am EXTREMELY glad (happy, excited, heartened,

I'm EXTREMELY happy for you :-)

>whatever) to hear that there is a Piers Anthony fan  ?node? on the net.
>Anyway, after reading the four messages that were here I'm wondering--
>how many of you have read the Space Tyrant

Uhoh, hear we go again.

>although the Incarnations series (something accidientally deleted)
>(even the sixth and seventh books) were quit close behind.  Also, I don't know
>how popular this one is, but has anyone read the series where there are a bunch

I beleive that's the Cluster series.
The first book is Cluster
The second is Chaining the Lady

I haven't read past that, but IMHO it's on of pier's most fun
series.  It has it's share of sexist propaganda, but
it's easy to overlook it and just get lost in a fun
si-fi story.

It's not high arng since Tarot.

Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
From: kolb@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Branden Kolb)
Subject: Re: IMHO??
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:38:45 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

I = In
M = My
H = Humble
O = Opinion
From: mk52+@andrew.cmu.edu (Matthew A Kagle)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
Subject: Paper
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:59:54 GMT
Organization: Masters student, English, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I am currently writing a paper on Piers Anthony to be presented at the
International Association for the Fantastic in the Arts' fourteenth
anuual conference.  I am going to compare the way Anthony describes how
science works as opposed to the way he describes how magic works.  Any
suggestions?
From: cjohnson@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Carl A. Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
Subject: Flame Alert!!!!
Date: 30 Sep 92 10:32:25 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Originator: cjohnson@rodan.acs.syr.edu


	Not to sound TOO cruel or anything, but there must be a FAQ or
something on abbreviations.  I won't mention any names, but IMHO and IMO are
used so very frequently on the net.  This, I believe, is worthy of flaming.
I, on the other hand, am too new to the net to be familiar w/ how to 
import other's letters into a response.  Oh well, "He who flames and runs
away, lives to flame another day...!"

	IMHO-In My Honest Opinion
	IMO -In My Opinion
	FAQ -Frequently Asked Questions


	(By the way, if anyone feels nice enough to tell me how to drag
another's letter into your own using Pnews, you can email me... thanks
in advance.)

						-Carl-

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