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From: almesber@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch (Werner Almesberger)
Subject: X386 keyboard problems
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:33:02 GMT

Whenever I start X386 1.2E 1.0, I have problems to get it to accept my
keyboard input. If I start it from the first VC, it doesn't seem to
accept any input at all. If I start it from a different VC and quickly
switch to VC1 (don't know whether it's really needed), I get the
following behaviour:

  - before the window manager (gwm, but happens with twm too) starts,
    it accepts about every second keystroke.
  - when the window manager is up, only the [3/#] key works. If I
    quickly hit random combinations of keys, the keyboard begins to
    accept more and more keys (e.g. [Q] [E] [T] [U] but not [R] [Y],
    etc.) until it finally works the way it should. This procedure
    usually takes several minutes.
  - if it works, it doesn't return to that weird state.
  - if I get it to work, I can terminate X and restart it without
    experiencing the problem again. Though, VC1 doesn't accept input
    anymore.
  - a reboot gets me back to square one.
  - disconnecting and re-connecting (= power-cycling) the keyboard
    doesn't help.
  - after pressing [3], other keys are accepted for about one second.
  - while only [3/#] is accepted, I can slowly try all other (non-shift)
    keys and the don't have any visible effect. [CapsLock], etc. don't
    have any effect, either.
  - [Shift] usually influences [3/#]. Sometimes, only one of the
    [Shift] keys does this.
  - if I release a shift key after that ~one-second-interval after
    [3/#] has ended, that transition is lost.

I've also tried X386 1.1 and had the same problem.

I suspect a mainboard problem (386DX/25, ABC, AMI BIOS), because I've
also had keyboard problems with DESQview (the arrow keys and the six
keys above them sometimes failed to send a code), but it works 100%
problem-free with Linux w/o X, and with X after that bit of playing.

Has anybody seen this before ? Any help is welcome, thanks !

- Werner
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From: jem@SunSite.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid)
Subject: Re: PS and adduser/admutil
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:56:25 GMT

In article <Bu27BG.G0@Nyongwa.CAM.ORG> steve@Nyongwa.CAM.ORG (Steve M. Robbins) writes:
>for it, I suppose it is still in /incoming limbo.  So I also put it on
>sunsite, (sunsite.unc.edu I think).  It may be still in the incoming directory
>there too, but at least it's readable.
>
on sunsite.unc.edu the file is named pwdutils1.01.tar.Z and resides in
/pub/Linux/utils/administration

jem.
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From: ajok@uta.fi (Ari Kohtam{ki)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: error messages concerning _setjmp and pixmap
Date: 15 Sep 92 06:31:53 GMT
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis) writes:

: Ohyeah.....BTW......when I exit X11, my screen is garbled if I started
: out with a SVGA text mode, namely 132x44. Has anyone found a way to reset
: this? Someone said delete some of the clock timings but I am using the
: auto-detect routine so there are no clocks listed in my Xconfig.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What's this??? Never heard about it. Sounds nice. Where can I get it?

	Terv. Ari
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: cummings@tiger1.prime.com (Kevin J. Cummings)
Subject: Re: Diamond Product clarification requested
Keywords: Diamond X
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:57:04 GMT

I was going to add a disclaimer to this response that XFree86 only supported
256 color modes for its X server, but before I could do that, I read that
an EGA/VGA server is available for ALPHA test on TSX-11.mit.edu.  Will wonders
never cease?  At least its a start for those of use without ET4000 cards B^).

I guess I know what I'll be doing this weekend!

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: stewart@wimsey.bc.ca (Jim Stewart)
Subject: Re: No patchlevel 3. 
Organization: Wimsey 
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 05:00:04 GMT

In article <716036077snx@kerberos.demon.co.uk> alovell@kerberos.demon.co.uk (Anthony Lovell) writes:
>
>In article <bjl.715932240@freyr> B.J.Lippolt@research.ptt.nl writes:
>
>>
>>joel@wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman) writes:
>>
>>>In article <1992Sep7.215429.7866@umr.edu> dminer@mcs213e.cs.umr.edu (Dan> Miner) writes:
>>>>wait a little (~100K? for that one).  Now, I got pl4 and ready for
>>>>an all night compile (it takes over 5 hrs on my machine.. :(  )
>>>                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>>machines?  I seem to recall about 15 minutes for a recompilation.
>>
>>This depends highly on your machine. I've got a 486/33-8M and it takes
>>just under 10 minutes. I've seen others with the same configuration
>>mentioning the same time, so I guess that's fairly normal for this type
>>of machine. I wouldn't be suprised if it takes 5 hours on a 386SX/16-2M.
>>
>>
>>Ben Lippolt
>>
>>
>With only 2M it'll be too busy swapping to compile any thing

To add another datapoint, my build of 0.97pl4 took EXACTLY 10 min.
... why EXACTLY? ... it finished just as the screen saver came on. :-)

20Mhz 486sx, 8Meg, Connor IDE drive.

js
From: Thomas_Backhaus@hb.maus.de (Thomas Backhaus)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: 8514 unter Linux
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 23:37:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.11

Mon, moin,

Habe da ein Problem: Ich wuerde gern meine ATI Vantage unter Linux benutzen. Den
notwendigen Treiber/Server habe ich schon (Ich hoffe zumindestens, dass es der
richtige ist...)
Was mir fehlt ist eine Moeglichkeit, meine Maus mit einzubinden. Es soll auch
dafuer schon etwas geben. Weiss jemand etwas genaueres?

Bis denn
Thomas
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: 57.6Kbps under Linux -- some results...
From: simonm@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Simon Marlow)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Xdtm compile
Date: 8 Sep 92 10:40:58 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

khamer@sumax.seattleu.edu (Little Kenny Hamer) writes:

>well, actually, I can't get the Makefile to work.  I obtained Xdtm source
>from ftp.uu.net, and used xmkmf to create the Makefile for my system. 
>However, there is an error in the syntax of the makefile:

>Makefile:411: missing separator. Stop.

>This was verified by moving the makefile to my /tmp directory all by
>itself and trying again..  Same error, so it Must be the Makefile. 
>However, I can't find it.  Has anyone had this experience?  Can anyone help?

>Thanks,

>     Ken Hamer
>     khamer@sumax.seattleu.edu

You might like to try my file manager instead. I just uploaded the
source to tsx-11.mit.edu, so it sould appear in the correct place in a
short while. It called xfm1.1.tar.Z.

It has some features that xdtm doesn't, like a real click-drag
interface and multiple open windows (and easy compilation :-), but
xdtm also has some features that xfm doesn't. See what you think...

Simon
From: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu (Charles Hedrick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: No patchlevel 3.
Date: 7 Sep 92 22:11:16 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

dminer@mcs213e.cs.umr.edu (Dan Miner) writes:

>It there a pl3 or can I continue with 0.97.2 and pl4?

There is a pl3.  Try sunsite.unc.edu, in /pub/Linux/Incoming.  Rather
than installing patches 1, 2, and 3, there's a complete tar of the pl3
source.  Patch 4 is also there.  It's small enough to go in with no
trouble.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: pdhatchm@socs.uts.edu.au (Paul Hatchman)
Subject: Re: clearing SUID bit on writes
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date:  5 Sep 92 03:57:55 GMT

tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) writes:

>When System V does is whenever you write to a setuid file (not just when
>you append to it), it clears the setuid and setgid bits.  This prevents
>a security hole if you have a setuid program which is group or world
>writeable.  I don't think anything would break if we added this behavior
>to Linux.  On the other hand, there's a much simpler way of avoiding the
>security hole, which is to simply don't create group or world writeable
>setuid files.

I do not believe that this is the case. SunOs and the other sys V unixes I 
have used only clear the setuid / setgid bits when the file is written to by
a user / group that does not *own* the file.

eg if i have a file that is world writable, I own it and it is setuid.
I can write to that fiel as much as I want and the permissions stay the same.

Now as soon as someone else writes to the file, the setuid bit is cleared.

I believe that this is the correct behaviour for setuid / setgid files and also
a rather sensible way to go about things.


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From: laakkone@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tero Laakkonen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: tlQ: has anyone ported Spiderweb...
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:11:10 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

... and if nobody has, does somebody wanna try? the newest
version is anonymous@princeton.edu:/pub/spiderweb.tar.Z.

to begin with, it has a Makefile-system that only works under Sun 4 (which
is why i decided to ask somebody smarter to do it).

if somebody has done it already, can you please produce a file of diffs?




thanks in advance, 

  tero.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jblaine@fsu1.cc.fsu.edu (Jeff Blaine)
Subject: missing libs for X....where are they!!??
Followup-To:  poster
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Reply-To: jblaine@fsu1.cc.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University
Distribution:  world
Date: 14 SEP 92 16:36:00    

When trying to compile xgames and bitmap, I seem to be missing or lacking 
some X lib files.  In specific:

I have libX11.1.1 libXaw.1.1 libc.2.2.2 libm.2.2.2
and several compile lines read:

gcc -o blahblah -lXaw -lXext -lXmu -lXt -lX11

Where are these libs?  I have installed the MCC-interim 0.96b(or c...) and 
xbase11.tar.Z

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From: dingbat@diku.dk (Niels Skov Olsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: .97pl5 won't boot (it's a SCSI problem)
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:44:47 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

I wrote:

>My .97pl5 won't boot. My configuration:

>	i386dx/33mhz
>	8mb ram
>	adaptec 1542b with 3 disks on the scsi bus
[ ... ]

Now I have found out that the problem is in sd_init. The system
is trying to do READ_CAPACITY on sd2, and is waiting for the_result
to become non-negative:

excerpt from kernel/blkdrv/scsi/sd.c:

		do {
	 	the_result = -1;
#ifdef DEBUG
	printk("sd%d : READ CAPACITY\n ", i); 
#endif
		scsi_do_cmd (rscsi_disks[i].device->host_no , 
				rscsi_disks[i].device->id, 
				(void *) cmd, (void *) buffer,
				 512, sd_init_done,  SD_TIMEOUT, sense_buffer,
				 MAX_RETRIES);

		while(the_result < 0);
		^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ it never comes out of this loop...

		} while (try_again  && the_result);

I don't understand the details of this, because this code has not
changed since .97pl4 where it works!

What's going on?

Niels
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: david@ods.com (David Engel)
Subject: Re: GCC missing file?
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 03:40:16 GMT

Eric Youngdale (ericy@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu) wrote:
: zcat.  Zcat is expecting something with a trailing .Z in the name.  To get
: around this, I changed:
: 
: zcat jump-4.1.TZ | ...
: 
: cat jump-4.1.TZ | uncompress | ...
: 
: This is not verbatim, but you get the general idea.

I noticed that too, but forgot to mention it to H.J. before the release.
Anyways, you can do without the unnecessary cat by doing this:

	zcat < jump-4.1.TZ | ...

David
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ilan@hal.cs.huji.ac.il (Ilan Horn)
Subject: Re: Can't get 0.97pl3 to boot
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:41:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.081220.22423@klaava.Helsinki.FI>, torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds) writes:
|> In article <715841111snx@temple.demon.co.uk.demon.co.uk> pdc@temple.demon.co.uk.demon.co.uk (Piers Cawley) writes:
|> >
|> >But: I just pulled the new 0.97pl3 sources down from nic.funet.fi, hacked
|> >keyboard.c so that # and @ are in the right place and compiled. Thus far, no
|> >problems. However, when I copied /usr/src/linux/Image to /etc, did the rdev
|> >incantation over it and rebooted, I got the following message:
|> [ deleted ]
|> 
|> I'd be much happier if people using shoelace would try booting from a
|> floppy (or using lilo) - right now I always suspect a problem with
|> shoelace when I see these kinds of messages.  Shoelace isn't supposed to
|> be used any more: please get lilo instead.
|> 
|> Shoelace has several problems:
|>  - it doesn't handle holes in the Image file gracefully
|>  - nobody seems to remember if there are any limits to the size shoelace
|>    can load.
|>  - shoelace cannot handle anything else but the minix fs.
|> 
|> So please try booting from a floppy, and resubmit the problem-report if
|> it still won't work.
|> 
|> 		Linus

I had the same problem, and I'm not using shoelace (and neither lilo come to that). I just
created a bootable diskette....

				Ilan
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hymowitz@whatever.cs.jhu.edu (Hymie don't play that.)
Subject: gcc install help
Reply-To: hymowitz@cs.jhu.edu (Hymie don't play that.)
Organization: Creative Sensualities dept, Jacquie's House of Underwear
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 00:24:09 GMT

hello.  sorry to bother you...

i am a linux [l]user, and this is the first machine that i've actually
sysadmin'ed myself.  i'm trying to install gcc.  according to the readme,
there are 5 files that i needed.  however, each time i try to sh the
install program, it complains that some-or-other file is missing.

so my questions is, is there a set of instructions that will help a
moron install gcc?  i'm not sure i'm up to that expertise level, but
i'll give it a try.

thanx in advance.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: davisdm@widget (Mat Davis)
Subject: Freeze-up after 'sock_init:...'
Organization: NASA/MSFC
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:29:33 GMT

I'm having trouble with Linux freezing after the 'sock_init:...' message.

I installed from SLS without problems (disks 1-10), and rebooted from the
boot disk that the install process created, and everything was working
just fine.  Then I realized that I had made filesystems that were too
big for the partitions that they were in (oops!!!) and decided to just
reboot with disk #1 of the SLS, remake the filesystems with the correct
sizes, and reinstall.

That's when things started freezing, and I've tried booting from disk #1
of the SLS and a 0.97 boot disk (both freshly created), and both hang at
the same point.  I can't imagine what could have changed, but I'd sure
like to correct it and get Linux (re)installed.

Can anyone help?

The system is a 20MHz 386 with 9M, and a 330M Maxtor drive on an UltraStor
(Ultra 12F24) controller.  (There's an Ethernet card in there too, but 
Linux should ignore that (SHOULDN'T IT?).)  I've partitioned the drive
into 220M for DOS, and two ~55M partitions for Linux.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: sakaria@vipunen.hut.fi (Sakari Aaltonen)
Subject: Re: Two suggestions .. comments welcome, please!
Reply-To: sakaria@vipunen.hut.fi (Sakari Aaltonen)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Distribution: comp.os.linux
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 04:58:25 GMT

In article <KFOGEL.92Sep8192936@edvac.cs.oberlin.edu> kfogel@edvac.cs.oberlin.edu (Karl Fogel) writes:
>I had a couple of thoughts. I may not have any more for a while
>because those about burned me out, so here they are:
>
>	It would be a great help to those of use who don't have a disk
>editor for someone to upload pre-edited bootimages to the directories
>that now normally hold bootimages and/or rootimages.  We'd need four
>more images, I guess: one for booting partition 1, one for 2, 3, and
>partition 4. If the space can be spared on the ftp sites, it would be
>a great help. I can't afford to buy a disk-editor myself, and I don't 
>want to pirate one either. Is there anyone who owns a good editor who
>would be willing to do this for future releases? (Yes, I'm always this
>glib when volunteering other people :-)
>...............................................

I don't know about 'good', but I wrote a simple DOS program for this
purpose called CHGROOT.EXE. It's at nic.funet.fi in pub/OS/Linux/tools/DOS.
It's been there for a week now; I don't know whether anybody has used it.
Apparently, PBOOT.EXE does the same thing, but it needs to know the
major/minor numbers which I keep forgetting. My program tries to do it
with names like hda5 and sdb1.

You might check it out,
s.a
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From: cummings@tiger1.prime.com (Kevin J. Cummings)
Subject: Re: GCC 2.2.2d bug
Followup-To: comp.lang.c
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:42:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.202913.14346@hippo.ru.ac.za>, pi@oliver.sun.ac.za (Pieter Immelman) writes:
> I have found that gcc is generating the wrong code for the following
> code fragment:
> 
>   int p = 10;
>   p = p++;
> 
> From my C background, I have found the value to be 10.  Unfortunately
> (for the gcc maintainers) the result is 11.

Actually, it depends upon whether or not the post increment happens before
or after the assign of p into p, and if before, then upon whether the old
value of p is saved in a register before the post increment gets done.
Not a construct I would get all upset about.  Anyone writing this kind of code
deserves more flames than the compiler writer who didn't handle it right B^).

> gcc -s produces the following:
> 
> 	movl $10,-4(%ebp)
> 	movl -4(%ebp),%edx
> 	movl %edx,-4(%ebp)
> 	incl -4(%ebp)
> 
> As I see it the "incl" is done at the wrong place.  It should be done
> right after the value of "p" was used.  The incrementing is done after
> the assignment; in my opinion it must be done right after obtaining the

I was under the impression that the increment could be done any time after the
value for the expression was produced.  Has the ANSI C standard defined it any
further than that?  If not, then it really is an implementation defined
result, and may therefore vary from implementation to implementation.  I don't
have my C standard with me right now to say for sure, but surely there are
better problems in LINUX to complain about?  Followups are directed to comp.lang.c.

> value...  For more fun, try "p = p++ + p++".  The value should be 21,
> but in this case it is 22!
> 
> Any ideas anyone?
> --
> Pieter Immelman (pi@cs.sun.ac.za)             Telephone: +27 2231 774393
> Department of Computer Science, University of Stellenbosch, South Africa

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From: simonich@uservx.plk.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: GCC 2.2.2d bug
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:05:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: uservx.1992Sep4.210545.36040
Organization: Phillips Laboratory - Kirtland AFB

In article <1992Sep4.230902.2523@novell.com>, bboerner@novell.com (Brendan B. Boerner) writes:
> In article <1992Sep4.202913.14346@hippo.ru.ac.za> pi@cs.sun.ac.za writes:
>>I have found that gcc is generating the wrong code for the following
>>code fragment:
>>
>>  int p = 10;
>>  p = p++;
>>
>>From my C background, I have found the value to be 10.  Unfortunately
>>(for the gcc maintainers) the result is 11.
> 
> I have this idea that if you posted this to comp.lang.c, Chris Torek or
> someone similar would point out that this is correct behaviour.  My gut
> feeling is that it SHOULD be 11 but I'm not a C guru.
> 
> Later,
> Brendan
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I will admit that it isn't the ASCII C standard but on page 46 of 
The C Programming Language (second edition) by Kernighan and Ritchie
they give the specific example:
"If n is 5, then

        x = n++;

sets x to 5, but

        x = ++n;

sets x to 6."
I agree with a previous poster that this code fragment is IMHO, very
poor code.