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From: beuf@wpi.WPI.EDU (Richard J Fuller)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.la-law
Subject: GUNS
Date: 20 Nov 1992 19:43:24 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
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Alot of people in the show have been shot!

Grace, Zoey, Abby killed a man, l......

I seem to remember Grace once went into this shop and wanted
to buy a gun.  She had it in her hand. she thought for a moment
then delicately placed the gun on the glass counter and
quitely walked out of the shop without saying a word....

Now Stewart goes in and asks for a gun and specifically he asks
for a 'big' one.  My thought is we never actually see him buy a gun!@
he just goes in and asks for a 'big' one.  

If he does bring one home...The question is WHO gets shot next...

Perhaps benny?  He was the only one not effected by the LA RIOTS right 
away. and they may want to make a point about the long term ill'effects of
the rioting....

What about Rollins..... He has yet to be shot....

____________________________________________________________________
on another note!
What about the glass slipper?  I seem to remember Stewart was 
watching CInderella with Mathew (his son) just a few episodes
ago...

Roxanne is going after Tommy? what about Tommy and Gwen?

what about Rollins and Gwen??? you saw they way the dropped
the papers all over the floor and then picked them up!??????

What about Benny??? with Roxanne and Arnie changing so much???

Correct me if I am wrong but I thought Arnie's PORSHE was totalled
by some mad woman way back.  DId he get another one????



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From: cho@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.la-law
Subject: Comments on 11/19 show & this season
Date: 20 Nov 92 10:48:54 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

*Spoiler* for 11/19 episode, if you could 'spoil' it, that is:



Does anyone else feel that LA Law is just 'Y ...A ....W....N' boring as all get
out?

The most exciting moment was wondering who sent Gwen a glass slipper, but of
course, I am already sure it's that flaky guy, so I wish that they would just
get that over with. 

Also, now Roxanne is getting strange.  How inappropriate of her to be asking
around to see who will have her baby.  I was just like...do what???!!!  I'm
sure it's supposed to be amusing, but I wasn't (amused).

Stewart bought a gun.....I guess that will deal with 'kids and guns' soon.

Another thing....the only good trial going on was with the deaf person, which 
was interesting enough....the divorce stuff with the movie director was very 
mediocre.  If they're going to do Hollywood, they should get someone BIG.  Get
Streisand on the show...E.Taylor...who is this Flicker dude?

Maybe it's just that the show is lacking some of the vitality it had with
'Grace Van Owen' and 'Kusak', and 'Vincent'.  I also miss the sleazy guy, what
was his name',...he was intriguing.  The show seem to missing a certain spark
that it had before. I miss Vincent the most, because he seemed to really care
about people and events.  So far on this show, no one really seems to care
about anyone.

It was kind of like Doug saying 'Chapter 1....ok,  Chapter 1'.  That seems to
be indicative of how this season is going.

The new female associate that is coming in may bring in some fresh air.  They
need some new life.  Will it be the log lady?  Rosylyn's sister-in-law? 
Vincent's cousin?  Douglas's wife's sister? (Now THAT would be interesting!)

Anyway, I'm still watching...and hoping.  I'm sure it's tough on the actors
with half the cast gone...some of the inate chemistries between the characters
have to be redefined.
-Pamela Cho-
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From: cub@csi.jpl.nasa.gov (Ray Miller)
Subject: Address and Phone Number
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:32:49 GMT

Well gang, here is the address and phone number I promised yesterday for the
production company.

NBC
Attn: LA Law
P.O. Box 900
Beverly Hills, CA 90213
(310) 203-1362

I know they take comments put to paper to heart much faster than those over the
telephone. So, let's get a nice whirring sound of laser printers across the 
country to a deafening level and let them know what we think of the current  
trend of the show. And, be specific. It isn't enought to just say, "I don't likeit". Give them some ideas. Who knows, we might just get what we wish for!


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From: cho@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.la-law
Subject: Re: Who sent the flowers?
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:48:59 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1992Nov14.094730.1576@netcom.com>, madhaus@netcom.com (Maddi Hausmann) writes:
> Pretty obvious to me.  It has to be that dweeb prosecutor who was
> fawning all over Gwen in episode #2.  Mostly because she's ruled
> everyone else out.
> 
> I don't think Stuart would have sent flowers; he would have invited
> her to play hooky with him and Benny if he had a revived interest.

Ditto on that one.  What was his name?

Stuart's infamous love interest with Gwen is long ago and
far away.  Didn't he use her for an assistant law clerk, and then kissed her
(only), with Ann somehow finding out, or walking in?  I don't think it was
anything more, am I right?

Speaking of Gwen...it didn't take very long for her and Martinez to get
together, as everyone predicted.

Also, speaking of Arnie, I think part of his 'desire to get into the
entertainment law' area is so that LAL can get big stars on the show to up
their ratings.  It's actually a good idea, if the scripts work.

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From: peea224@chpc.utexas.edu (Joanna L. Castillo)
Subject: TV Guide summary for November 19, 1992
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 04:59:38 GMT

Episode #5 of the 1992-93 season.

Let me add that this is #5 in a row.  Heh.

TV Guide summary (reproduced without permission) follows:


Episode title:  My Friend Flicker

Becker cozies up to a studio mogul (Shelley Berman) whose daughter's 
divorce he's handling; Markowitz recoils when the police ask him to 
try to identify his attackers in a lineup; a state coalition for the
deaf finds its employment policy challenged in court; Roxanne thinks
she's found Mr. Right; and Brackman begins his memoirs.  Suzanne:  
Phyllis Frelich.  Calvin:  Michael Keys Hall.

Joanna.

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From: kat@banach.WPI.EDU (Flame's Passion)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.la-law
Subject: Re: Missed one snip of dialogue
Date: 16 Nov 1992 16:39:43 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <1992Nov14.210836.7579@trentu.ca> xtkmg@trentu.ca (Kate Gregory) writes:
>
>It's the final Arnie courtroom scene. He establishes that the
>older brother has never tasted the wine made by the younger brother.
>He asks why. There is a dramatic pause and then the reception goes.
>By the time the reception is back, Gwen and Ann are meeting their
>client.
>
>So, why won't big brother taste little brother's wine?

He was a recovering alcoholic.

kat
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From: murphy@well.sf.ca.us (Daniel A. Murphy)
Subject: Re: Hill Street Blues actors on LAL
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 10:27:58 GMT


> Ken Olin

Ken Olin was on LA Law last season?  Did I just miss that or is that
an error?
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From: mcsweinberg@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.la-law
Subject: rox/tom & the gifts
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:07:32 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

I think the previous poster was right about the writers missing an excellent 
opportunity to bring Stewart out of this crap I.D.ing the guys.

On another note... I figured Rox wouold ask Tommy as soon as he showed up
at the office. He misses Zoe and looked to be feeling very alone.. It seemed
as if they were setting him up for this.

The Mysterious gift giver is starting to be irritating...
of the guys on the show...

Leland - To Fatherlike.
Benny - Get Real.
Arnie - To self absorbed in the new him.
Douglas - He has Sheila and to into his book. (ha)
Jonathon - He was too into his campaign to be forging a crush.
Stewart - Very Unlikely-- He's not even sleeping with his wife.
Morales- Double Denial
D.A. Guy - Too Flaky and she didn't kiss him.
Tommy - I don't think so, beside that she's not his type.

It's probably some off-stage character and they are just trying to drive
us crazy.

Rai.

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From: cub@csi.jpl.nasa.gov (Ray Miller)
Subject: The problem is...
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:42:19 GMT

It seems to me that the problem with the show as it stands now is that it is
a soap opera style almost solely dealing with relationships. It seems to me
that the writers have forgotten that the show is about law. I would love to
see some more protracted trials like the corporal punishment case Cusak had a
couple of seasons ago. There is far too little trial time, and far too much
interpersonal relationship stuff. Might just as well tape "All My Children"
and watch it Thursday nights.

I have made a call to NBC about it, and I think if more people did, we might
just be able to effect a change. Couldn't hurt could it?


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From: mcbride@ll.mit.edu (Barbara McBride)
Subject: Re: Missed one snip of dialogue
Originator: mcbride@ll.mit.edu (Barbara McBride)
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Lexington MA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 08:39:43 GMT


In article <1992Nov14.210836.7579@trentu.ca>, xtkmg@trentu.ca (Kate Gregory) writes:
|> It's the final Arnie courtroom scene. He establishes that the
|> older brother has never tasted the wine made by the younger brother.
|> He asks why. There is a dramatic pause and then the reception goes.
|> By the time the reception is back, Gwen and Ann are meeting their
|> client.
|> 
|> So, why won't big brother taste little brother's wine?
|> 
|> Kate
|> You know, once I was watching a murder mystery and the power went
|> out just as the detective said "and the murderer is --". True.'


	The older brother is a recovering alcoholic.  He hasn't had a drink
	in I think he said 3 years.

	Babs
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From: epwong@nyx.cs.du.edu (Elliott Wong)
Subject: Who Sent the Flowers?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 16:58:31 GMT

	Hmm... glass slipper doesn't seem to be Leland's style anymore, though
the scenes with Gwen and (?) Morales are *very* funny. 

	One kiss? Maybe it *is* Stuart...
From: cb031@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jerome R. Koch)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.la-law
Subject: Hill Street Blues actors on LAL
Date: 20 Nov 1992 13:19:14 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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I noticed that the pawn-broker at the very end of last night's
show is the same guy who had a recurring role on Bochco's Hill
Street Blues; he was an alcoholic coroner.  (He is also the
bartender on Murphy Brown, but I'll leave the discussion of
that show to Dan Quayle).  Anyway, I started remembering other
HSB characters who have been on LAL.  Most of these are from 
the early days of the show.  So how about we inject a little
trivia and nostalgia into this discussion of how good the
show used to be.  Here's my list; can anyone thinl of others?

Barbara Bosson (Bochco's wife, and Fay Furillo on HSB) - she
was a news anchor Kuzak represented when she was fired after
doing a series on breast cancer during which she bared her
breast on camera (not, however, the LAL camera).

Keil Martin (J.D. LaRue on HSB, now dead) - a sleazoid drug
czar who provided a lot of business for Abby when she went
solo

Michael Warren (Bobby Hill on HSB) - a sad case where he sued
a hospital over the death of his wife; Kuzak lost on a
technicality.

Joe Spano (Henry Goldblum on HSB) - a pervert who "flittered"
his tongue in Grace's ear.

Mimi Kuzyk (I can't remember her HSB character name, but she
was a cop who often went undercover as a hooker) - she was
an ADA who lost her antique rocking chair to Victor in order
to settle a slander suit he was bringing against her.

Ken Olin (Kuzyk's partner on HSB) - last season's casualty.
He made such an impression on me I can't remember his
character name.

I also remember an old HSB episode wherein Michael Tucker
and Jill Eikenberry had great roles as a couple from out
of town who got stranded in the "Hill" neighborhood after
getting their car stolen or something.  I'll bet their work
on that show got them their star parts on LAL.

What else?
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From: brian@disk.uucp (brian)
Subject: The gun, the baby, and glass slippers
Organization: Digital Information Systems of KY
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 10:03:07 GMT

La Law?  I thought I was watching Santa Barbara.

Has anyone cosidered that it may be possible that the person who sent the
flowers may not be the same person that sent the glass slipper?  I can't 
remember but did the new DA and Gwen have a friendly little kiss?  Now
everyone try to think hard, who are the people that Gwen has kissed?

Has Roxanne ever heard of artifical insemination?  It seems to me that if
she wants a baby without marrage then that would be the way to go.  Why
would any woman who would want to have a baby on her own want to know the
father and have him involved in their lives.  That would really complicate
things, but... ahhhhh  that would make a good jucy story line would it not?

The gun.. Ok the possibilities: Stuart wants to feel safe and protect himself.
Stuart is considering suicide.  Stuart is going to go nuts and shoot a lot of
people. etc. etc.  Has it ever occured to someone to wonder why Stuart is not
in therapy?  I mean I think it he could better adjust to his situation if
he talked about it in group or with a therapist.  Also what does he actually
do at the office?  Sit and try to remember?  No wonder he is getting worse.

PLEASE!  Post that address.  All of us need to write ant try to knock some 
sense into the writers or we are going to lose our beloved show.

What do the rest of you think about The gun, the baby, and the glass slipper?

				Brian

brian.disk.UUCP

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From: epstein@cs.uiuc.edu (Milt Epstein)
Subject: Re: November 19th Show
Reply-To: epstein@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: alt
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 00:15:54 GMT


I just tried following up to the previous message, but it failed, and
I got a mail message about it.  I then noticed that the original
message has a "Followup-To:" header line that redirects followups back
to the original poster.  Was this intentional?  In any case, it's not
really conducive to a discussion :-).  This may explain why someone
else also had difficulty following up to this post.


In <1992Nov20.154838.6203@asl.dl.nec.com> english@ssdslc38.asl.dl.nec.com (Kim English) writes:

>   I don't know about anyone else, but I thought last
>night`s show was pretty good compared to what we have
>recently been subjected to.  I liked that Roxanne picked
>Tommy to be the father of her child, and loved his 
>shocked reaction.   I was glad that Stewart actually
>could pick out the 2 guys from the line-up that beat
>him up.  It may be just me but it seems like one minute
>he is like his old self, then the next minute he is 
>acting like a kid again.

I agree with this last statement.  He is really inconsistent.  Someone
here suggested that that might be realistic for someone who's been
through that, but it seems bizarre and distracting to me (and
certainly a good way to introduce unexpected plot twists :-).


>   I liked Leland showing his integrity by refusing to 
>be the lawyer for the deaf woman because of her recent
>business "ethics".  And I liked that the show ended with
>a twist!
>
>   Of course, it wasn't perfect though.  This second get-
>together with Qwen and the new lawyer(guy from Santa 
>Barbara) didn't even make sense.  After she embarrassed
>herself last time, *why* would she walk in and kiss him
>again, without *first* asking if he sent the slipper??

Well, you hit upon it exactly in your next paragraph -- the card
referring to the "one kiss".  And she figured it was from him, and he
was referring to the one previous kiss.


>   Who has kissed Qwen only once besides Stewart??  The
>person sending the stuff said he`s kissed her once.
>Anybody else got ideas?

(No flame intended, but is there any particular reason you're spelling
"Gwen" with a `Q'?).

This card definitely adds an air of mystery to the gifts.  It strongly
reminded me of the one kiss with Stuart, but that still seems too
bizarre at this point.


I guess I'd agree that there were some interesting aspects to this
show, but it still smells too much like a soap opera.  This was
especially true of the commercials previewing it (I don't remember it
exactly, but I think it showed Gwen and Morales?, and mentioned about
Rox wanting the baby, and then showing many of the men around the
office, saying the father would be "one of these" ...).

Still waiting and hoping ...

-- 
Milt Epstein
Department of Computer Science
University of Illinois
epstein@cs.uiuc.edu
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From: madhaus@netcom.com (Maddi Hausmann)
Subject: Re: rox/tom & the gifts
Organization: Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:21:31 GMT

mcsweinberg@memstvx1.memst.edu writes: >
>
>The Mysterious gift giver is starting to be irritating...
>of the guys on the show...
>
>Leland - To Fatherlike.
>Benny - Get Real.
>Arnie - To self absorbed in the new him.

But, Arnie and Gwen did have a quickie 2 years ago.  Maybe they
only kissed once while writhing on the floor.  They did it in
his office, two days before Arnie married Corrine (who, it
turned out, knew Gwen through some other route).

>Douglas - He has Sheila and to into his book. (ha)
>Jonathon - He was too into his campaign to be forging a crush.

If Gwen gave him a smile instead of pretending he wasn't there,
like everyone else, he could be very grateful.  And he did have
some chemistry with Abby, who is a similar physical type.  You
never know.

>Stewart - Very Unlikely-- He's not even sleeping with his wife.

Yes he is.  He just isn't doing his husbandly duties.
He can't remember the Venus Butterfly, for example.

>Morales- Double Denial
>D.A. Guy - Too Flaky and she didn't kiss him.

Maybe she did in first grade, as another poster suggested.

>Tommy - I don't think so, beside that she's not his type.
>
>It's probably some off-stage character and they are just trying to drive
>us crazy.

No, it's probably someone we've met but don't remember.  Like some
delivery guy who brought her pizza at midnight when she was deep into
studying for finals, or something.  Or maybe the lawyer for the wife
in that business breakup/divorce case.

Maybe it's one of the guys in the line-up, like #1, #2, #4, or #5.

-- 
Maddi Hausmann                madhaus@netcom.com
Humorist, Satirist, Tech Writer.  Take your pick.

Centigram Communications Corp, San Jose California  408/428-3553
From: biddleco@mizar.usc.edu (Susan Biddlecomb)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.la-law
Subject: Re: The look on Roxanne's face
Date: 16 Nov 1992 09:26:16 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <009638DD.DAC6FC00@vms.csd.mu.edu> 9073hammesm@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
 >
>I liked last season too, but if the last two episodes this season are any
>indication of how things are going to be now that they've decided to
>concentrate on the characters rather than the law I may soon be a former fan.
>Last night's episode was awful--even the two cases they dealt with were
>boring.  
>
>I can see no way out for Stuart--wait a minute, I've got it!  It was all
>a dream!  


Or as my housemate (who has actually been cited on a case he handled pro per)
said after the last episode: "That was the longest 1 hour show on TV I've ever
seen."

The thing that kept the show going was the various moral and ethical dilemmas
presented by the cases! And the courtroom interchanges! This was the only TV
show I ever watched regularly. Looks like it's time to keep the TV turned off.

Susan



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From: cik6239@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Devore)
Subject: Re: Springfield, Illinois
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:51:31 GMT

In article <uerics.721880728@mcl> uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd) writes:
>Remember the episode where the Simpsons pack up to visit Unkie Herb in
>Detroit and get there in less than one day's drive?  Well, it ain't all
>that terribly far from Springfield, Illinois to Detroit, Michigan - you
>could do it pretty easily in one daylight period (I don't know the exact
>distance).
>
>Not really convincing evidence, but it's a step...
>
>- Eric S.
>
Remember, other episodes had various characters going to Mexico and
(supposedly) making it in a day.

taking your evidence and throwing it back in your face...
	Jeff Devore

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From: meposner@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Marshall Posner)
Subject: Re: Maggie's price on the cash register in the opening?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:07:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.144944.15386@zia.aoc.nrao.edu>, dadler@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (David Adler) writes:
>>Does anyone know how much Maggie cost when she was passed over the bar code
>>scanner in the opening of the show?  It goes by so
>>quickly, I can't tell.  I believe it was in TV GUIDE once, but I missed it.
> 
> Funny, I just checked this out a couple of days ago. I taped it and
> watched it frame by frame. Maggie goes for $847 (or was it $874...)
> and change.
> 
> Dave

I think you'll find it in the FAQ.

							Marshall

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