Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.censorship
From: rchilder@us.oracle.com (Richard Childers)
Subject: Re: PORTLAND: American Front (Hate group) transcript
Organization: Memes-R-Us
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:43:28 GMT
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kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay) writes:

( regarding the support of censorship where unpopular voices are concerned )

>> rchilder@us.oracle.com (Richard Childers) writes:
>
>>I can also provide personal email from _you_, Ken, where you _do_, and you
>>defend it, too.
>
>>Shall I ?

>Since I can't recall ever asking for b-cpu's removal from the system, sure -
>you have my permission to post my letter, just to refresh my memory.
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Here you go ... this isn't actually your mail, just the snippets I replied
to, but it gets the gist across. ( There are _lots_ of these snippets em-
-bedded in our conversations from back then. )


> 
> From rchilder Tue Jul  7 09:33:04 1992
> To: kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca
> Subject: Re: "LEST WE FORGET" Citations - Can you lend a hand?
> 
> 
>|>   You consort with those whose intention is explicitly just that, and I sort
>|>   of doubt that you are oblivious of their ethical proximity ...
> 
> "No, I do not. The folks I work closely with all understand that no good
>  purpose is served by driving them underground - we want them right up front,
>  where everyone can examine them."
> 
> Then maybe we are in agreement.
> 
> I have nothing against education. I have learned much from this whole year
> of Revisionism. But the ugliest thing I have seen was the deliberated email
> bombing and harrassment of B-CPU. No wonder Dan Gannon used a pseudo. I'd
> guess he's learned some things, too, and will be back, smarter and tougher.
> 
> I see no good in strengthening the enemies of freedom by teaching them all
> the latest ways to harrass a person, for, assuredly, those methods are going
> to be turned against us.
> 
> -- richard
> 
> 
> 


So, here we see an open acknowledgement that you "work closely with" certain
folks whom share your goals - which are the cessation of Nazism ( a goal you
admit is not only impossible, above, but which works against your long-term
interests ), and the elimination of B-CPU in particular.

The "work" you were doing included tutoring people, not in how to use Kill
files in general, but how to use them explicitly for B-CPU, specifically.
( I don't necessarily disagree with this desire, but insist that it sets a
pretty ugly example for the new kids on the block. )

In another of your emails, you noted that you were pretty old and didn't
expect to be around too many more years.

If you don't recall, I responded then - and now - with the request that you
not corrupt this communications channel with activities - such as censor-
-ship - that will leave the rest of us with a mess to clean up, long after
you've left the scene.

It's common courtesy ...


-- richard

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