From: kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu (Kathy Buetow)
Subject: Re: Opinions on breed.
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:23:30 GMT

In article <BzFFy6.HML@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu ()
wrote:

LOTS AND LOTS O' STUFF DELETED
> And actually, Kathy, I've often wondered how you manage with THAT
> many doggies in one place!!! But I guess if I moved Peter's computer 
> (and all that other stuff) we could fit that many crates in there!
> 
> Just my opinion and 'living proof' as Kathy says! :)
> 
> Kay & Crew

It's easy !  I don't have a "normal" house.  I think someone else 
recently said this here in r.p.d....My house is kept for the comfort
and convenience of my dogs.  The living room contains the "normal"
couch, loveseat, and TV set but it also has 3 Varikennels in it, to
me they're part of the furniture (to the kids, they're their daytime
home).  The dining room has been sectioned off for puppies (yes, 
there is an ex-pen "fence" dividing  the living room and dining
room).  The puppy pen, the grooming table, and a cat tree are the
"furniture" in my dining room right now.  Last night I put down a 
tarp and astroturf (10' X12') in the dining room (over the regular 
carpet) just for the babies to romp on.  Oh yea - another "oddity" 
in my house.....there is a 6' X 6' Kennel run out on the balcony 
(containing pine chips). The kennel run has made housebreaking 
puppies and  early morning and late night potty runs much easier !!  

As I said, my house is kept so that my dogs and myself are 
comfortable (And my mother wonders why I'm still single :-)....
every one else can either deal with it (generally not a problem as 
most of my friends are "doggie people" anyway), or call me on the 
phone if they want to talk .

In article <1992Dec18.071911.17589@lth.se>, dag@bellman.control.lth.se (Dag
Bruck) wrote:
> 
> In <rec.pets.dogs> CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:
> >.... I would consider it cruel to keep a
> >large dog in an apartment all day (actually, I wouldn't sell ANY breed
> >of dog to someone that lived in an apartment).
> 
> Chris has been pretty badly beaten for this, so I thought I would take
> a new angle.

I don't really think Chris has been "beaten".  So far I think everyone has 
brought up some very good points that just happen to be contradictory to 
Chris' opinion (notice I said "so far", I'm not so stupid that I'm going to
predict that people won't start shooting their mouth off in an unfriendly
manner on this subject).  I just think Chris might be missing out on some
*WONDERFUL* future puppy buyers and potential friends by limiting
puppy placement to "Houses (or other appropriate non-apartment noun) 
Only".   Honestly Chris, I'm for one am not beating (I hope you don't take 
it that way).  If you ever get up to Central Illinois please feel free to
stop by....perhaps I can change your mind about apartments being a
bad environment for dogs to live in :-).

Kathy
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Katwala Australian Cattle Dogs - Home of Oreo, Yonder, Double Stuff, Rowdy 
and 7 adorable little ACD monsters that are (thankfully) "just visiting"
!!!
Kathy_Buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu
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