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From: mlelstv@speckled.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: I DID giev up on the Amiga!
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 22:34:52 GMT

In <1992Jul26.191956.2642@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>   That is a concern to far fewer people than you'd think.  Commodore seems to
>agree, as the only other Amiga besides the A3000 that has built-in hard drive
>capability -- the A600 -- uses a comparitively slow non-DMA IDE hard drive.
>Again, it is far better for most people to have a slow non-DMA SCSI included
>than to have no HD capability included at all.

That is a statement you repeat again and again.. as if Amigas that don't
have HD controllers on the motherboard could never use HDs at all.

That means that a large number of PCs have no HD capability included
at all which is clearly nonsense.
Also our VME Suns would not have any HD capability nor do they have
any CPU nor any graphics since the "motherboard" is a passive
backplane.

>   Then I take it that you won't be buying any Amigas ever again, because the
>new ones will likely have better than 12-bit color built-in and you don't like
>to have that capability included as standard hardware?

As you may have read he didn't want to _pay_ for something he didn't use.
Do you have to pay extra for the better color in the next Amiga models ?

Regards,
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From: dano@srl01.usl.edu (Dan Stephenson)
Subject: Re: Amiga Future?!?
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 03:29:27 GMT

mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst) writes:

>In <1992Jul23.020111.8441@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>>   Commodore controls the sources to the OS.  Commodore controls the layouts
>>and internal specs for thecustom chips.  Without both of these, no Amiga
>>clones are possible.

>Microsoft controls the sources of the OS..

But Microsoft doesn't makes the hardware too, as does C=.
Also, OS/2 is on the block, and ends Microsoft's virtual
OS monolopy on PCs.

>And chipsets can be reengineered (ppl to that with complete processors).

Wouldn't this be VERY difficult??

>Of course, C= must be willing to _sell_ the OS separately. Currently it
>does !

Well, that might end if clones were around, eh?


>Regards,
>-- 
>Michael van Elst
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papered room/Full of mute bird and flowers that /Falsely bloom/And
closets choked with dreams that long ago died,... --Judy Collins
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From: troy@bluemoon.rn.com (Troy Fridley)
Subject: Re: AmigaDroids will *never* change
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 04:08:14 EDT

i897515@redgum.ucnv.edu.au (DERF) writes:

> Well I have 32 running now, 30 of them are default on bootup on my A500
> system.  I'm sure the computer could easily handle 47.  How much CPU
> grunt you have left would depend on the priority of the process,
> whether the process is interactive (ie takes no time when not in use)
> or is batch (ie a ray tracer, which I would run at a much lower priority
> than if I was typing on my WordPro at the same time)  You would never
> notice the slowdown here.  
> A program such as JM(Job Manager 1.1b) would detect a certain process
> name upon execution and can automatically change the priority or even
> allocate a certain number of quantums to processes of equal priority
> Check this program out.
> 
> Have Fun
> 
> 
> Craig Arnoldt
> 
> 


  I personaly really like JM, Except that I've had some major problem s 
 with it!  It seems to really mess with my serial ports. (A VERY BIG 
problem when you run a BBS in the BackGround!)  I have found though that 
Useing it on my 3000 and Useing the Quantums that I can run MANY different 
MAJOR CPU tasks and lose almost no Proformance from them.. I Sugest that 
everyone check it out!  (Has there been a version of JM released that 
fixes my bug?) 
 
                Troy
 
Sleep Deprevation does strange things to the Mind!
 

  Does one actually need a brain to think?  Obviously Not!
 
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From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Subject: Re: Perot ?
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 08:40:04 GMT

fettig@sol.cs.uni-sb.de (Thomas Fettig) writes:
: surprising things. Think about the last decades before gorbatschov, what

: PS:
:  please disregard any spelling errors,it's simply to hot here to
:  do it right (B->.

Wow.  I don't think I've ever seen Gorbie's name so mangled.  ;)  It's
Gorbachev, I believe.  (gore-bahts-koff...  Whoa.  ;)

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From: gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington)
Subject: Re: Games on consoles
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 13:21:08 GMT

foax@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>Aren't you assuming that all games are arcade-oriented?  If that were
>true then consoles might well dominate.  But any game requiring a lot
>of computing power that isn't being used to move objects around on
>screen would be better done on a computer.  I can't see complex flight
>simulators, where the 3-d calculations dominate the computing time, or
>vastly complex simulations like the latest Ultimas being done on
>consoles.  And if you need to save any information, you're out of luck
>on a console.  If you built a console with these capabilities then
>most people would think it was either too expensive or trying to be a
>cheap computer and would probably buy a real one.

Actually, console systems can save games.  My brother saves them with his
SuperNintendo all the time.  They do have some fairly complex role-playing
adventure games.  The idea of games moving off the computer platforms
(withing two years!) seems outrageous, though.  People who own computers and
want to play games are likely to seek games for their computers; it has worked
this way so far.  Besides that, I doubt the big computer game makers are
going to roll over and give up their positions in such a successful market.

-- Gerald
From: nan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Nan Zou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: AMIGA vs. IBM AUDIO???
Date: 21 Jul 1992 20:22:32 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

avogel@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:

>I have a question.  I know of someone that is buying a 16 bit audio board
>for his IBM 386.  It is PAS (power audio systems or something like that)

Actually it's the Pro Audio Spectrum 16.  The price sounds about right.

>Anyway he is getting it mail order for about $219.
>Now this is a 16 bit audio board.  For the AMIGA 16 bit just came out
>like Sunrize Industry's Studio 16.  I am an AMIGA user and I always thought 
>that the AMIGA had the edge in this area - what is the whole story here?

The story is that the Amiga is slowly being caught up in areas where it
previously held a commanding lead over the competitors (let's hope that
last sentence parses).

>Can this IBM board sample?  How do they compare?

The PAS-16 sure can sample, 2 channel 16-bit stereo sampling at 44.1 KHz.
It also has a nice FM chip for 20 synthesized voices.  To compare quality
you'll have to listen to each of them.

-- Nan
From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: TKKC VS. JLBC
Date: 24 Jul 92 06:28:14 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <dano.711837008@srl02.cacs.usl.edu> dano@srl02.cacs.usl.edu (Dan Stephenson) writes:
 >lindblad@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Jarkko Lindblad) writes:
 >>cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams) writes:
 >>: In article <1992Jul16.173410.23840@klaava.Helsinki.FI> lindblad@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Jarkko Lindblad) writes:
 >>: 
 >>: Do we qualify for the 
 >>: JLBC (Jarkko Lindblad Beer Club) yet?  :-)  A much more worthy group
 >>: than the TKKC I feel.

Sounds really intriguing!

 >>Yes, it is much more worthy group than the TKKC, but it's also much
 >>harder to get into it. Even as have no idea how much a carton is, I
 >>can say that it's not enough - the easiest way to get into JLBC is to
 >>gain extra weight of around 50 lb in something like six months by
 >>drinking lot's of beer. 

No problem at all for me (anyone who knows me please confirm :-)

 >Aww, you non TKKCers are totally clueless! Get a life, and join the
 >TKKC!

Oh no. You see, TKKC is a well known acronym here in Germany. It was a
children's TV detective serial, and TKKC stood for the first names of
the major characters. No, this was rather neat, but I wouldn't want to
get involved in such childish stuff :-)

Prost!

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From: chuj@horton.Colorado.EDU (CHU JEFFREY)
Subject: Re: I am giving up on the Amiga
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 00:04:55 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.224005.26066@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de> mlelstv@speckled.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst) writes:
>In <1992Jul26.194630.13666@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> chuj@horton.Colorado.EDU (CHU JEFFREY) writes:
>>I agree on your 286 comparisons, but according to the ads, they indicated
>>that the 030-16Mhz was comparable to a 386SX20 running windows 3.0.
>>(lets see, LANDMARKS says 16 Mhz for this AT286-12, and then 28Mhz for
>> this 386SX20)
>
>Well, that is a problem if one relies on the LANDMARK benchmark. This test
>does largely show the internal speed of a processor (by timing lots
>of integer multiplications) and the results aren't affected that much
>by the bottleneck of the 16bit data bus.
>
>Of course you could cripple the 68020/68030 with 16bit memory but any
>useful 68030 accelerator for the Amiga (or the A3000/16) uses 32bit
>memory.

Right, but the machine was using 32bit memory for that 030-16.  But in all
your statement is right.
From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: C= speaks!!! let's spread the words!!!
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (beta) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:20:22 PST
Organization: Amiga makes it possible

In article <1992Jul30.190059.8624@cheshire.oxy.edu> leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt) writes:
> What have we seen from the PC world?  Cheaper CPUs... and Toaster clones...
> what other innovations?  Well, everything is cheaper.  Except that the
> base peripherials, hard disk and video, haven't dropped much in price at
> all.  Better performance, yes... but not platform specific, except for
> video cards.
>

This is wrong to a huge degree.  I paid $6000 for an AT&T 6300 in
1984.  It came with 1Meg of RAM and a 10Meg hard disk and monochrome
monitor with a never usaable hires mode (no software support).  It had
an 8MHz 186 (16-bit CPU).  Today, you get a 33MHz 486 box with 1Meg
of RAM, 64K of cache RAM, HD controller, and 256 color graphics board
with supported 1024x768 mode for $800.  Not a typo here, an actual
price of a machine.  Lacks monitor and hard drive, though.  For half
that $6K, you get 8MB of RAM and 200MB of hard disk and 32K color
localbus video machine.  Haven't dropped at all, my butt! :)

> Geez, if CBM released a 3000 w/386bridgeboard, and called it the 3000
> Universal... would that be a new release?  How about with a bigger
> hard disk and flopiticals... the Optical 3000... how about a 2000 with
> '040 accelerator?  The 2600/200 Rev. 7.
>
> How about an OEM'd accelerated A500 with hard disk?  The A700XL?
>
> The only onboard color '030 machine for under $1000... including a 105
> meg hard disk, a MegaMidget type '030 w/4 megs 32bit and 2 meg chip...
>
> Add a monitor of the type you prefer at your discretion and bag, you're
> state of the low end art.

NOT.  For similar money, you get a 486 machine with CD-ROM drive and
256 colors.

>
> Think about it... the Amiga is capable of any of these things... some of
> them even come from CBM.
>

Only if CBM gets smart and makes a 486 box running AmigaOS and capable of
using PC plug-in boards.

> Thom
>

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From: dano@srl01.usl.edu (Dan Stephenson)
Subject: Re: PC's vs. mortals
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:06:34 GMT

root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:

>In article <1992Jul19.205748.18330@utstat.uucp> philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>>In article <root.0233@rkamiga.UUCP> root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>>
>>[ ]
>>>
>>>Before PC prices started dropping through the floor, the 386SX was a natural
>>>stepping stone for 286 users who didn't want to buy a high end system.
>>>
>>>Within a year no one will be making 286 systems anymore, and the 386SX will
>>>define the entry point for Intel based systems.
>>
>>I don't agree. People will continue to make 286's and sell them for next to
>>nothing. There are no overwhelming reasons to move to a 386 if you are 
>>mainly interested in running DOS applications. Given complete systems for
>>$200, why wouldn't they continue to make and sell them?

>What seems to be happening right now is that those companies who still
>manufacture 286 systems are going to 16 and 20 mhz motherboards in an
>effort to put some profit margin back in the boxes.  This is actually a
>good deal for consumers as a 286 will outperform a 386 running straight
>MSDOS software when the clock speeds are equal.  But the price difference
>between a complete 286/16 and a complete 386SX/16 system is closing.

There is only one flaw in your arguement, and I think it is important:
you can't run Windows in 386 enhanced mode with a 286. 
>Rick Kelly		Rick's Amiga		Framingham, Mass.
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papered room/Full of mute bird and flowers that /Falsely bloom/And
closets choked with dreams that long ago died,... --Judy Collins
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From: gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington)
Subject: Re: I am not giving up on the Amiga
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:28:30 GMT

mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:
>As for Apps, the Indigo has plenty to choose from, albeit they are very
>expensive.  I do not know for sure if FrameMaker exists for the SGI, but
>if it is, you won't find a better desktop publisher/word processor on
>any platform - especially the Mac (which claims this kind of app as
>a strength).  FrameMaker is available on the Mac in a crippled/slimmed
>down version of what the X version does...

What are some other good X applications?  I need to see if we can get
some at work.

-- Gerald
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From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Perot ?
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 16:49:29 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Jul20.070821.27601@uwm.edu> <62494@cup.portal.com>
  <mykes.09nb@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG>

If you thought Bill Clinton was nutty, read about his wife.

Get the August issue of "The American Spectator". A partisan mag
(unabashedly so), but you get the feeling they actually feel
sorry for poor Bill being married to her.

Before you flame me. At least stand in the bookstore and skim it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt)
Subject: Re: Commodore and the Osborne Syndrome
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 21:44:25 GMT

Your friend should sell the Vortex and get a bridgeboard.

If he wants a 386sx.

Thom
From: barrett@snoopy.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: LEAVE MARC BARRET ALONE!
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:11:56 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@snoopy.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Organization: BLAZEMONGER INCORPORATED

>>In article <tony.711325586@ais.org> tony@ais.org (Tony Poole) writes:
>>>It also kinda amuses me that a while back, one Bowie Poag was so hated that
>>>his sysadmin yanked his net access.  "But he advocated Piracy!" they said. 
>>>Heh....Mark is doing a better job at killing the Amiga than piracy is.

In article <sheldon.712422150@pv141b.vincent.iastate.edu> sheldon@iastate.edu (Steve Sheldon) writes:
> If I recall correctly, that Bowie Poag was posting foul language.

	Nope, that wasn't it.  Bowie made some racist remarks, and this
pissed off his systems administrator, who removed Bowie's account.

>I doubt that "advocating piracy" is grounds for removing net privileges.

	By the way, there is no such thing as "removing net privileges."
ANYBODY can get access to USENET, though it might cost some money.  There
are thousands of machines with USENET connections, and a number of pay
services (like Portal) where you can buy USENET access.  Bowie did not "have
his net privileges removed."  He had his account removed from ONE machine
because he pissed off the administrator of that machine.  There's a big
difference.

	The person who owns the computer makes the rules....

                                                        Dan

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From: leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt)
Subject: Re: PC World's John C. Dvorak Speaks Out...
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 21:18:37 GMT

Pournelle will be brutally honest...

But, I wish I had his money!  Whee... a network inside the house... whee,
wait, hmm... that TT looks interesting... I think I'll buy it... hmm...
maybe mention it in passing in my column.  Whee, I can have one of everything
I want.

Whee..

Thom

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt)
Subject: Re: Games on consoles
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:26:23 GMT

Star Trek: 25th Anniversary takes 4 hours to load on a 286, 2 hours on a
386, and an hour on a 486 running at 8 mhz.

thom
From: al158305@academ01.mty.itesm.mx (Gustavo Cordova Avila)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: I am giving up on the Amiga
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:50:34 GMT

ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene) writes:

>	Have you taken a look at IBM's OS/2 2.0 OS?  It does a lot of the 
>  things you want much better then Windows.  It does require a little more
>  hardware to run then Windows though. 
>	

   Besides being out of the discussion point, if half-OS (OS/2) need 
a *little* more hardware to run than windows, then it needs much more
hardware to run (just to run!) than AmigaDOS 2.04. And period. Don't 
start saying "You haven't seen it run!!" blah blah blah, you CAN'T
install it in a machine that's less than a 386DX-33 and hope for it to
run at an acceptable speed, but AmigaDOS can. You can't install it on a
machine with a 60Mb hard disk and hope to have enough disk space free
for some apps, and AmigaDOS can.

End of discussion.

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From: jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: I DID giev up on the Amiga!
Date: 27 Jul 92 12:31:46 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Atlantic City NJ

barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:

>   I use Macs here, and the HD performance of these machines is definately
>faster than my TrumpCard Pro 500.  Granted, they are slower than the A3000,
>but then the A3000 is also quite a bit more expensive than any of these 
>Macs.  You get what you pay for.  But at least these Macs HAVE a SCSI port.

  I thought the Trumpcard Pro and the GrandSlam were essentially the same
controller, if so, then it's a polled I/O controller, not a DMA SCSI device.

  -jack-
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From: dtiberio@libws2.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Subject: OH MY GOD...I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT I JUST SAW
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:40:43 GMT



	The sky must be falling.

	Hell must have frozen over.

	IBM must have released the 586, and lots of people must be out
	there eating floppy disks.

	The Mac must be clean 32-bit.

	The economy must have gotten better.

	Kickstart 3.0 must have been released today.


	But unfortunately, none of the above happened. But today when I 
logged in, I read my mail (my only mail), and was reading a very interesting
message....I will now post my experiences IN FULL DETAIL of what just 
happened.



	The air was still. My new IDEK monitor flashed the screen colors a
few times (I have to send it back to the dealer). I tried to set the mood
by finding a nice TV station to watch, so I put it on channel 8, the Prevue
Guide. I then proceeded to read my mail. It was a very interesting mailing
from a fellow netter.

	Suddenly I awoke to a new dawn. I heard exclaimed,

	"....call to contact a CDTV dealer near you."

	...and out of the corner of my eye, at 2:45:32 pm EST, I saw a
	CDTV logo and the 800-66-AMIGA phone number on TV! 

	This really made my day (among other things)! 




	Perot for preseident.





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From: george@ibmpcug.co.uk (Michael Veltman)
Subject: Re: OH MY GOD...I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT I JUST SAW
X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this article are those of the author
	alone and may not represent the views of the IBM PC User Group.
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:22:14 GMT


So,  If I'd like to mail 
the big C= myself, and tell them
that I love the Amiga, but dont
like what's happening with it,

How (or where) can I do this?

Michael


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