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From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Why should DSN be removed from startrek current?
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:14:03 GMT
Reply-To: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <21JAN199311590172@rosie.uh.edu>, st1lv@rosie (McLeod, Stephen) writes:
>In article <C16Hxw.ACE@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, spock@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Scott) writes...
>>	Why does eveyone want DSN moved out of startrek current? Afterall DSN is
>
>This is not any kind of flame.

Likewise.

>It's just that when "startrek.current" was created there was only one startrek.

Huh?  What about the movies, books, comics, trading cards, etc, ad nauseum?

>DS9 didn't exist.

True.  However, at the time of the split, the possibility of creating a "tng"
group was brought up.  It was also REJECTED for the following reasons:

  1. TNG is *not* going to last forever
  2. TNG is *not* the only new source of Trek (not then; not now)
  3. Other shows are bound to come along; at that time, there were
     rumors of a "Generation After the Next" show possibility.

Whether you like it or not, putting DS9 discussion in r.a.s.current is
precisely what the proposal of the group intended, and precisely what those
who voted voted for.

>I feel it would be better to have
>
>   startrek.ds9.reviews
>   startrek.ds9.current
>   startrek.tng.reviews
>   startrek.tng.current

I fell this is a big mistake.  In addition to the above reasons, TNG and DS9
are so closely related (lots of cross-over stuff already, and more to come)
that there's bound to be a lot of discussion that would getcross-posted in
such a set-up.

>In any case, I believe the current system will collapse after we have a couple
>good, controversial episodes on both shows in the same week.

We'll see...

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Dave Schaumann			dave@cs.arizona.edu
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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: BABEL
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 08:02:36 GMT

In article <16957.128.uupcb@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Burgess)  writes:
>ko_mike@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Michael Y Ko) writes:
>
>-> I was just wondering, if the Episode entitled "Babel" named that
>-> because of the babel fish in "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"?
>
>I doubt it. More like it has some reference to the TOS episode, Journey
>to Babel.

Even more likely, from the biblical tale from which the TOS episode got its
name...


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From: sh09@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (STEVEN HIGGINS)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: WHY DO TREKKIES FIND KIRA ATTRACTIVE
Date: 23 Jan 93 19:43:26 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <2353@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, ancst8+@pitt.edu (Anuj Chandra) writes:
>There is no doubt that Kira is attractive. But her
>attractiveness is amplified by the fact that us
>ST:NG fans are sick of watching Troi all the time. Face it,
>we are bored of watching Troi all the time. Compared to Troi,
>almost any ST:NG or DS9 female crew member seems attractive .
>However if Tasha Yar was still around, Kira would look like a cow
>compared to her.
>Conclusion: Kira owes her popularity to Troi having been the
>current 'babe' in ST:NG.
>Anuj

    Well, IMHO the "babe" award would go to Ensign McKnight.  Too bad she's
    only been on a couple of episodes.

    Oh, and Kira is ok.

    Just my 2 cents,

    
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~Steve
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From: mocm@thp.uni-koeln.de (Marcus Metzler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Stewart's/Picard's accent
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:24:12
Organization: Institute of Theoretical Physics, University of Cologne, F. R.
	Germany
	<1993Jan22.131720.19670@husc3.harvard.edu>
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In-reply-to: johnsos@prism.CS.ORST.EDU's message of 23 Jan 1993 05:17:41 GMT

I think the French language has to be dead in the 24th century, because
otherwise Picard would be able to pronounce his own name correctly.
Since neither he nor any of his crewmember are able to do this (not even
Data, it is conceivable that ( like Latin which is certainly not pronounced 
in the way Julius Caesar did it) the language is dead.

Picard should be prounced with a silent "d" (like Picar ).
As to Jean-Luc : 
Well the Jean is no problem , but the Luc certainly doesn't sound like "Luke".
Since there is no sound like the French u in the English language I can't
really dicribe the pronounciation.

By the way in the German version the name is pronounced correctly


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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: The men of Star Trek
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:43:44 GMT

In article <rrheaume.119@emr1.emr.ca> rrheaume@emr1.emr.ca (Roberta Rheaume (CPB)) writes:
>Riker, on the other hand, is supposed to be "number 
>one" but he has been accused of rape, and I believe that there was something 
>to that.

When?


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From: denisf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Denis Fafard)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: DSN:Man Alone Stardate 46384.0
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 20:56:00 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

  Did I miss something during the premiere of DSN ?  I thought that the
 stardate given at the beginning of Emissary was 46388.2 as given by 
 Capt. Picard (?).   I just saw a repeat of 'A Man Alone' and in one 
 scene Odo is reading a personal log of someone's (no spoilers here!).
    The first stardate we see is 46384, Odo then tells the computer to
  skip to stardate 46385 of the personal log.  For those that didn't see
  it, the info in the personal log for that stardate was 'yesterday's '
  activities for that person telling us that the 'current' date is
  stardate 46386.x 
 
    Now, usually the writers of TNG were pretty good in keeping 
everything in check.  Is the same tenacity with accuracy being kept
 up in DSN or was the above flaw just that, a mixup ???  Did I screw up
 or did some writer?

--
Denis Fafard              denisf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
From: glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DSN or DS9?
Date: 28 Jan 93 20:04:34 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

>Look, shouldn't we decide on this?
>Sure, the show calls it Deep Space Nine, not 9, but
>isn't DS9 easier to remember?
>
>Do we end up voting for the acronym?
>
>
>LJC
Well, I've seen the characters on the show refer to the station as "DS9" 
several times. It also makes sense, although it's not grammatically
correct, strictly speaking. DS9 tells you what one of the words is: Nine.
In "DSN" the N could stand for anything

-- 
"A horse! A horse! Somebody give me a horse, man, because|glazier@ 
I come to bury this dirtball, not to praise him. Whaddya |harvard.isr.edu
think I am? Whether it's nobler for the mind to make people suffer with all
these totally outrageous arrows arrows for a fortune, or what!" -- D.R.
From: ko_mike@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Michael Y Ko)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: TNG's FUNNIEST MOMENTS
Date: 26 Jan 1993 03:03:26 -0500
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
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How about from the episode I think called "Only for the Lonely". The epsidoe
that had a Ferengi ship and the Enterprise caught in a force field from a
planet that was part of the Ta Kohn Empire. It's funny to see
Data try to get out of the Chinese finger puzzle.
From: pmichals@teal.csn.org (Paul Michals)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: NewsFlash: Molly Takes Growth Hormone!
Date: 23 Jan 93 14:46:20 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Ok, The big leap for Molly (from babyhood to a walking, talking
3,4,or 5 yr old toddler) did occur in 'Rascals'.  My only excuse
is that I didn't really notice her among all the other 'kiddies'
in that episode.

As for the age and corresponding mental developement; I'm afraid
I was going by my own family history where no one starts talking
(coherently) until at least age 9 or 10 (and yes, some are still
waiting for me to make sense)  :-).

All this reminds me of an old George Burns-Gracie Allen gag:

Gracie: 'You know my niece has three feet.'

George: 'Your niece has three feet?!'

Gracie: 'That's right. My sister says I wouldn't recognize her
         since she grew another foot.'


paul m.
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From: lecuyer@wam.umd.edu (Catherine L. LeCuyer)
Subject: Re: Best Episode?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:06:51 GMT


My favorite:
		Inner Light
		Darmok
		Up the Long Ladder
		Measure of a Man
		Code of Honor

Cathy

"You generally start at the top and work your way down" -Brenna O'Dell
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From: dbarber@crash.cts.com (David C. Barber)
Subject: The problem with throwing Q out the hatch.
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 24 Jan 93 05:43:11 GMT

The problem in throwing Q out the hatch of the Enterprise (as
in never to be seen again), is that after they grabbed him and
hauled him to (likely the only) suitable hatch, they found it
had already been reserved for the day by the people who wanted
to throw Wesley out the hatch.

As for throwing Troi out the hatch (see other related posts, and
*don't* count me among those people), you'll just have to take
a number.


Without change,                         *David Barber*
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From: lkahn@mitre.org (Larry Kahn)
Subject: Stuck airlock in Babel DS9
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:30:54 GMT


Was there something I missed here?  Why didn't Chief O'Brien simply beam 
the stuck people out and then go back and fix the airlock at his 
convenience rather than make it a big priority?

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From: lpeters@postmaster@hq.af.mil (Leslie D Peters)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: NewsFlash: Molly Takes Growth Hormone!
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:22:49 GMT
Reply-To: lpeters@marge.hq.af.mil
Organization: 7th Communications Group

In article <1993Jan19.070852.23680@pro-smof.cts.com>, colby@pro-smof.cts.com (G Colby) writes:
|> >>Yes, The latest episode of DSN (A Man Alone) clearly shows that the
|> >>O'Briens' have abused their child Molly. Though she is at most 18 
|> >>months old she clearly showed the size and intellect of a five year old! 
|> >>Obviously the parents have been feeding her a potent growth hormone. 
|> >>Despicable! :)
|> >>
|> >>paul m.
|> 
|> Geez, where have you been, paul? :) Remember Alexander over on TNG? He went
|> through the same growth spurt as well. I think after MONTHS of debate we
|> all decided that kids in the 24th century take a vastly improved form of
|> Flintstones vitamins...:-)
|> 
|> glen
|> colby
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It is not uncommon in most television series for children to grow up
at accelerated rates, though primarily soap operas.
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From: L695819@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: Ensign Ro II
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 08:21:56 PST

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Ensign Ro
From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 05:07:52 GMT
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS

In article <500001@hplred.HPL.HP.COM> fristrup@hplred.HPL.HP.COM (Jenny Fristrup
>        Forgive me if this question has been asked before, I don't
>        see it in the last 75-100 or so postings...what happened to
>        Ensign Ro?  Wasn't she supposed to show up on DS9?

She was, but Michelle Forbes, who plays Ensign Ro (or did, as the case may be)
decided that she did not want the role, so she could go on to other things.
I have two words for Michelle Forbes: Denise Crosby. I think ya hear me
knocking, and I think I'm... wait... sorry. Wrong schtick. Anyway, the role
set up for Forbes was the Major Kira charater, which was recast when Forbes
turned it down.

According to director David Carson ("Emissary"), he insists that isn't
the case.  He helped assemble the original cast of characters for DS9.
"The character of Kira Nerys is totally different from Michelle's
character," he maintains, "and the casting of Nana Visitor is
absolutely right for the role".

                                             Alan
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From: 164anderson@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 25 Jan 93 11:52:32 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

I've thoroughly enjoyed all the best/worst, et. al. threads going around, so
I'm going to respond to all of them right here in a sinlge posting.

TOP TEN TNG EPISODES:
1."The Best of Both Worlds"
2."The Best of Both Worlds II"
3."Yesterday's Enterprise"
4."Redemption"
5."Reunion"
6."Inner Light"
7."Q Who?"
8."Sins of the Father"
9.A Matter of Honor"
10."Relics"

BOTTOM FIVE TNG EPISODES:
1."Shades of Gray"
2."Pen Pals"
3."Cost of Living"
4."The Last Outpost"
5."The Icarus Factor"

TOP WOMEN IN STAR TREK:
1.Kira            9.5
2.Dr. Crusher     9.5
3.Dax             9.0
4.Troi            8.5
5.Robin Leffler   8.5
(Ro is left off becuase she's ugly, has a bad haircut, and is the biggest bitch
(along with Dr. Pulaski) that ST has ever had.)

Using a rating system of 1 (worst) to 5 (best) I went thru and rated every
episode (I miised three from Season 5) and then averaged them out by season:
TOP TNG SEASONS:
1.Season 4: Average rating - 3.65
2.Season 3: Average rating - 3.60
3.Season 6: Average rating - 3.55 (so far)
4.Season 5: Average rating - 3.52
5.Season 2: Average rating - 3.09
6.Season 1: Average rating - 2.94 (what a surprise!) 

For right now that's all I can think to rate.

 -Karl Anderson, WMU

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From: mwasserm@diana.cair.du.edu (MARC Y. WASSERMAN)
Subject: Re: WORST EPISODE
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 06:38:10 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.133139.19576@husc3.harvard.edu> cstone@husc8.harvard.edu (christopher stone) writes:

>What specifically did y'all not like about "Qpid"?  I didn't think it was
>so bad, kind of lighthearted, and we finally got to see Picard lose
>his cool and go after Vash..."this is personal, Number One."

My personal objection is that it was very poorly played out.  Worf's
line, for instance that "I am not a merry man!" is cute but very
obvious; and many other lines seem set up.  Situations seem very
set up too, for instance where Beverly shoots Data with an arrow
and Worf smashes Geordi's lyre.  
While parts of the episode were indeed funny, it seemed very out
of character, very badly paced, and even badly acted at times.  It
just wasn't Star Trekkian.  Also, the idea had been better handled
in the old show "Shore Leave."
But it's better than "Cost of Living", "Shades of Grey", "The Child"
and many others.

Marc
mwasserm@diana.cair.du.edu

-- 
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		     D  O  C  T  O  R     W  H  O
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From: dkelly@bio4.acpub.duke.edu (Diane Kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Ensign of Commands
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:53:31 GMT
Reply-To: dkelly@bio4.acpub.duke.edu (Diane Kelly)


In article <1k2rk9INNggh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>, ko_mike@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Michael Y Ko) writes:
|> Path: news.duke.edu!duke!concert!gatech!darwin.sura.net!blaze.cs.jhu.edu!jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu!jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu!not-for-mail
|> From: ko_mike@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Michael Y Ko)
|> Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
|> Subject: Ensign of Commands
|> Message-ID: <1k2rk9INNggh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
|> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 03:09:45 EST
|> References: <1993Jan22.223907.23264@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com> <shari.727968142@rlxdev> <1k2r8eINNfu9@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
|> Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
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|> 
|> Can someone tell me what happens after Data learns that he has to deal with
|> convincing the colonist to leave the planet while the Enterprise
|> intercepts the Sheliaks? I missed the ending. Thanks...
|> 

Didn't you know?  Everyone dies and the Enterprise is destroyed.

						Jim Cambias
						Misusing the Terminals
						Duke Bio
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From: bturner@cv.hp.com (Bill Turner)
Subject: Re: TNG's FUNNIEST MOMENTS
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.9 PL6]
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:42:07 GMT

Jeff Jackson (jackson@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com) wrote:
>   Gold:  To Q, "True-Q" -- Q, in his own special way, lets us know what
>          he thinks of Dr. Crusher without annoying the censors.
> 
>          It was funniest the first time because it was so unexpected.  If
>          I hadn't already been lying down, I'd have been on the floor. 

Ah, this show had some great lines....  My favorite is one of Q's:

   What else have you done?  Teleportation?  Telekenisis?  [Look toward
   Picard] Spontaneous combustion of someone you don't like?

--Bill Turner (bturner@cv.hp.com)
HP User Interface Technology Division, Corvallis
From: parvin1@husc11.harvard.edu (Douglas Parvin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Lynch's Spoiler Review: "Past Prologue"
Date: 24 Jan 93 05:57:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc.parvin1.727855053

hmoran@nswc-wo.? (Howard Moran) writes:


>[blank lines follow - ^L is problematical]















>[hang on a little longer]










>But this was the one point I gagged on!  Wormholes, "natural" or "artificial"
>are tied to titanic/subtle forces/events capable of warping spacetime.  IMHO
>Tahna and the Khon-Ma had about as much chance of shutting down the wormhole
>"entrance" with that device as I would in trying to disrupt hurricane Andrew
>with a box of TNT - we are talking MAJOR forces here.  

I took it to be an attempt to infuriate the aliens that "operate" the 
worm-hole.  After all, they did seem pretty hesitant to let Sisko get out
alive in "Emissary".  So I think humanoid races are still on a kind of
"probation".  However, I'm not sure if the aliens are common knowledge...

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From: mdc@crash.cts.com (Milo D. Cooper)
Subject: Re: DS9: Model or computer generated?
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:46:46 PST

In article <4823@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
<In article <1993Jan21.221041.14491@watson.ibm.com> roy@trigger.watson.ibm.com writes:
<
<<Exteriors of DSN space station, and the Enterprise, and all the other
<<vehicles in the syndicated Star Trek universe are created by ILM and
<<they are models.  True, in many cases elements are combined by
<<computers, or enhanced (addition of lights, shields, phasers, etc)
<
<ILM hasn't had anything to do with ST:TNG since the premiere.  They have
<nothing to do with ST:DS9.
<-- 
<Vidiot  ucbvax!uwvax..........!astroatc!vidiot!brown

	What are you talking about?  ILM are in the credits.  I have
the proof on videocassete.  They're all over Star Trek.

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From: spencer@der.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun)
Subject: Re: Don't need to split with a better Subjectline!!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: spencer@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun)
Organization: Society for Promotion of Entropy in the Universe (SPEU)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:47:09 GMT

In article <C144xH.5M7@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU writes:
>In <1993Jan19.130329.19767@watson.ibm.com> roy@watson.ibm.com writes:
>
>>Yeah, I have heard a few say that subject lines preceeded with
>>TOS, TNG, or DSN, along with the use of killfiles would solve
>>everyones problems.  Well, once again, I will ask *HOW*?
>
>Well, IF you have the ability to build a kill/select file and people use
>proper subject lines that would seem to be self evident.

How about people who want to read about multiple shows, but just want
some organization?

By way of analogy, imagine if all of USENET were one huge newsgroup with
some unique identifier at the beginning of all titles.

>>Someone enlighten me?  Tell me how I can *easily* read current
>>information about the two different shows the way I like
>>(at different times and rates).
>
>1. Help promote proper use of the Newsgroups: line.

This I won't dispute.

>2. Use a real, threaded newsreader.

This I will.  Go back to the analogy of all of USENET being one massive
newsgroup.  Using a threaded newsreader will help, but only up to a
certain point.

>3. Find some spare time.

I'll take exception to this too.  Not everyone has the same schedule or
flexibility of schedule or willingness/ability to make time as everyone
else.  OK, after some point you have to tell people to suck it up and
deal with it, but if there's a reorganization that would make these
people better off, and not hurt everyone else, then...

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Life *is* pain, Highness.  Anyone who says differently is selling something.
[_The Princess Bride_]

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