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From: rob@polestar.facl.mcgill.ca (Robert Macfarlane)
Subject: Re: Q: Do Mac IIvi/IIvx serial ports have GPI pins?
Reply-To: poster
Organization: McGill University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:42:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.191803.4859@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>  
rob@polestar.facl.mcgill.ca (Robert Macfarlane) writes:
> Hi folks,
> 
> Sorry if this has been covered before.  I'm wondering if anybody knows  
if  
> the Mac IIvi/IIvx/Performa 600 have a GPI (General-Purpose Interface, I  
> think) pin on their serial ports.  This pin, which I'm told is used by  
> some software for modem flow control, is present on all other Mac II  
> models, but not on the LC series nor on the Classic series.
> 
> I've heard that the IIvx uses the same sound & serial chips as the LC.   
If  
> this is true, it would mean that the IIv series doesn't have that GPI  
pin,  
> right?
> 
> Could someone please set me straight?  I'll post a summary to  
c.s.m.comm.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Best regards,
> Robert Macfarlane
> Faculty of Arts Computer Lab
> McGill University

I got this (definitive) response from Rick Gordon  
<manutius!ozhost!rickgo@uunet.UU.NET>. Thanks, Rick.

---cut here

I talked to Apple Developer Support about this because I was having   
packets dropped
during Zmodem transfers over a 144kbps connection. They told me that:
1) the GPi pin (7) is not connected on the VX, Classic, LC line;
2) this pin is not for flow control anyway. (Flow control is covered by  
pins 1 & 2 the HSKi/o lines). First Class is known to use it for DCD but  
that's the only program they knew of that did. (they use it to verify that  
the line is up or not.)
3) Even with hardware flow control, its reasonable to see dropped bytes  
because of the 3 byte buffers on the SCC. This is aggravated by AppleTalk  
and Floppy drivers blocking interrupts, although both of them attempt to  
interleave the SCC during long processing.
4) System 7.1 blocks interrupts more than earlier releases, and thus is  
more subsceptible to this problem. They're working on improving this.
5) it is the combination of these things that makes large MIDI xfers such  
a problem on the VX. (Further aggravated by the fact that MIDI, as a comms  
protocol, sucks IMHO. No error checking makes it too fragile!)
    
It was suggested that the only way to get reliable high-speed xfers out of  
the Mac at this time was the use of a coprocessor board, such as a Clear  
Access Hurdler or the Apple Serial NB card.

Since I only see this during prolonged high-speed xfers at a rate of 1  
packet per 100KB, and since Zmodem recovers these lost packets so well, I  
haven't bothered pursuing this. It seems to work fine at 9600 bps.

I have definitely confirmed that AppleTalk interferes - when I turn on a  
AT-based printer I start getting 9-10 packet errors per 100KB. An  
Ethernet-based system would probably not be so bad, I'm using LocalTalk  
cable on this particular setup. I've since learned to leave the printer  
off during high-speed xfers.
 
    
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: DAVISM@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Michael T. Davis)
Subject: RE: VersaTerm and LAT (more information)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 04:28:09 GMT


In article <1993Jan4.182622.7184@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, I wrote:

>
>	A user here has a IIci and a Quadra 950, both running VersaTerm Pro
>utilizing LAT Tool as the connection method.  We have observed that both Macs
>are using the same LAT address.  Ideally, we would like each Mac on the network
>to have its own unique LAT address.  Is it possible to change the LAT address
>on either Mac and if so, how?  I thought about trying out ResEdit, but decided
>I would wait for any authoritative answers before delving "where no one has
>gone before." (;-)
>

	When either of these machines connects to our VAX via LAT, the remote
port information is displayed as "LAT_xxxxxxxxxxxx/Port0".  Both machines
display the same address where "xxx..." is shown above.  This, I realize, is
inconsistent with what's supposed to be there.  Holdng down Option and clicking
on the Ethernet icon in MacTCP also displays this address.  What I'm trying to
figure out is how it got that way and how to fix it.

	The Quadra is using the built-in Ethernet interface; the IIci is
utilizing an Apple NuBus board which provides an AAUI port (one of those funky
ports which requires a special MAU).

	The user explained how he got the same files on both machines.  Para-
phrasing: When he got the Quadra (with pre-installed system software), he
hooked it up to the network and then used ARA to get the files from his IIci
to his Quadra.  On the first pass, he avoided the System Folder(s).  On the
second pass, he copied everything from the IIci's System Folder which wasn't
already present on the Quadra.  I have a suspicion that this is the root of the
problem.  Could anyone confirm this?  That is, is there anything which could be
copied from one Mac to another which would result in this behavior (e.g.
EtherTalk Phase II from the Extensions folder, perhaps)?

	To help reduce traffic, please reply via E-mail; I will summarize.

							Much obliged,
							    Mike
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From: wang_dj@zebra.cs.jhu.edu (David J. Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Internet BBS
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:02:20 GMT
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD


COULD BE AN FAQ:   

I have seen refrences to internet BBS's -- I was wondering where I might
be able to  get more info and/or software.  Does anyone know of an ftp
site with info, or is there a newsgroup?

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
David J. Wang                                    CAUTION!
wang_dj@server.cs.jhu.edu                SPACE UNDER CONSTRUCTION!
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From: schulte@klin.far.ruu.nl (Bas Schulte, Spider)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: QM Gateway to Internet
Date: 7 Jan 1993 12:09:18 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hi there,

I'm looking for a QuickMail gateway for Internet. I know of about 2 commercial 
solutions, but I can't afford those (yet), so I'm looking for shareware/freeware 
solutions.

Thanks in advance,

Bas A. Schulte
Creative Connections Software Development.
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: moxness@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jack Moxness)
Subject: Telnet 2.5 trouble with Duo 230/System 7.1
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 15:54:05 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Keywords: telnet,duo,7.1

	One of our faculty members set-up a docked duo 230 station yesterday.
He tried using telnet 2.5 (serial setup NO ethernet). It generally worked
some but whenever the Quit selection in the file menu was chosen and the 
program exited to the Finder it always put a dialog box message on the screen
which said "Application has unexpectedly quit!". He has decided not to use it
until we hear whether there is anything special about system 7.1 or the duo's
that prevents telnet from operating perfectly. Is there a newer telnet to
support this machine and system combination? Should he use it anyway and
ignore the message? Thanks in advance for advice, tips and suggestions.
regards,
----
Jack Moxness					moxness@acs.ucalgary.ca
Programmer/Analyst				phone: (403) 220 - 4950
Psychology Dept.				  FAX: (403) 282 - 8249
University of Calgary

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Smartcom II offer ?
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
	<1992Dec22.225014.7331@icaen.uiowa.edu> <6610.2b458388@hayes.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 01:07:29 GMT

BC> == Bill Coleman <bcoleman@hayes.com>

 BC> Without this tradeoff, ever communications program would look like
 BC> White Knight with jillions of settings.

One reason I don't use White Knight any more is because it doesn't do
emulation of a "VT-alike" with anything more than 24 lines...

Versaterm does a beautiful job.  On a 13" with MaxAppleZoom you can get a
40-line terminal window (you have to shove the title bar under the menu bar
tho :)

 BC> You do have a point. My whole purpose in answering this thread about
 BC> expanded screen size in emulation is to help determine the importance
 BC> of this feature in the user community. Once we have that information,
 BC> we can better judge the tradeoff. Based on the response, I'd recommend
 BC> this feature be added on the next round of enhancements.

I'll bet you're going to recommend it! :)

Really, truly, it is one of the *most* critical features in a term program,
IMHO.  Versaterm does it, NCSA Telnet does it, TCP/Connect II does it, I
bet ZTerm does it (I haven't used it lately).
--
Christopher K. Davis      | ``Usenet seems to run much like the Kif (or,
<ckd@eff.org>   EFF #14   |   for the TV generation, Klingon) high command.
System Administrator, EFF |   Whoever takes action and can be heard wins.''
+1 617 864 0665  [CKD1]   |   --Peter da Silva <peter@ferranti.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Gary  Truemner <truemner@rd.hydro.on.ca>
Subject: Re: Where can I get MacSLIP or InterSLIP?
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Organization: ONTARIO HYDRO Research Lab
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 23:23:42 GMT
X-XXDate: Thu, 7 Jan 93 18:19:29 GMT

In article <1if5v1INN4sa@network.ucsd.edu> Blaine Stine, wbstine@ucsd.edu
writes:

SLIP is part of VersatermPRO v3.6.1 latest


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From: jimh@laison.w8hd.org (Jim Hebert)
Organization: L'AISON - Local Area Information Server Open Network
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 21:17:45 EDT
Subject: Re: EtherNet cards for 030 slot (or NuBus for that matter)

 Arthur Darren Dunham,add@is.rice.edu, asks:

 > I would be willing to try another card, but 
  > it must come in both an 030 direct and NuBus 
  > version, and it must be register compatible 
  > with Apple's (like Asante is) so I can use 
  > System 7 for EtherTalk installation.  Can 
  > someone else tell me who might make a 
  > relatively inexpensive card that can do this? 

Racal InterLan currently has a promotion on their SE/30 Processor Direct
Ethernet cards. They are selling the cards for $50. (They also have SE slot
cards at this same price.) Call them for more details at 1-800-LAN-TALK. Their
regular Nu-Bus card is priced more like $300.

Not affiliated with Racal; just bought a card from them for $50.

_____________________________________________________________________________
Jim Hebert                L'AISON = Local Area Information Server Open Network    
jimh@laison.w8hd.org                Tel: 313/647-2634  Beverly Hills, Michigan
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc,news.newusers.questions
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Internet & America Online: How to email between?
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:12:39 GMT

MG> == Mark Grant <grant@valinor.mythical.com>

 MG> I can tell you one thing about AOL.  They allow screen names with 2
 MG> words separated by a space.  Internet doesn't like that.  If you
 MG> replace the space with "." (period), AOL postmaster returns the
 MG> message.  If you mash the screen name together, same thing.

This is incorrect.  I send a fair amount of mail to people on AOL with
screen names like "AFC Wonko" (not really that, but you know what I mean)
and I just mail it to afcwonko@aol.com, and they get it.

Don't use a period, just mash it together.
--
Christopher K. Davis      | ``Usenet seems to run much like the Kif (or,
<ckd@eff.org>   EFF #14   |   for the TV generation, Klingon) high command.
System Administrator, EFF |   Whoever takes action and can be heard wins.''
+1 617 864 0665  [CKD1]   |   --Peter da Silva <peter@ferranti.com>
From: 2712s@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Jennifer Murnane)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Modem Software????
Date: 4 Jan 93 16:51:34 GMT
Reply-To: 2712s@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Jennifer Murnane)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD



Help!  I need to pick out a modem software program that will work with
my new SupraFaxModem v.32bis 14,000 modem.  I have it hooked up to
a MacIntosh II and currently I am running System 7.  I called
MacWarehouse and they suggested "White Nite Software" and "SmartCom".
Supra suggested I purchase "FaxSFT".  I want to be able to send and
receive faxes on my machine with little or no compatibility problems.
I want to be able to fax from Word 5.0, Canvas 3.0, and Excel 3.0.
Can anyone guide me in the right direction.  I should note that I
am more familiar with IBM systems than I am with MacIntosh systems.
In other words, speak laymens terms.
From: sturges@master.lds-az.loral.com (Jim Sturges)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Zoom v.32 bis and Compuserve
Date: 5 Jan 93 14:33:23 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Loral Defense Systems - Arizona




OK, I surrender. I have tried the init strings that both CIS and ZOOM
suggest, but can't get farther than the "Protocol" notification box that
appears just before you *really* connect using the CIM software. Can
anybody
tell me how they managed to make such a connection? Thanks.

 ************************************************************************

Jim Sturges                                       MS 8612
602 925-7204                                Loral Defense Systems --
Arizona
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From: ih@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ian Harries)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Finding Ethernet address
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: 11 Jan 1993 10:48:03 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, London, UK
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: burberry.doc.ic.ac.uk

In article <matt-080193203120@wardmac8.med.yale.edu>,
                matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu (Matt Healy) wrote:
 
> There is also a neat little program on most archives
> called "GetMy Address".  Double-click it, and a box
> pops up giving your current Appletalk, Ethernet, and IP
> addresses.

I have found GetMyAddress very useful over the years. But it does not give
the Ethernet address of an attached Asante EN/SC SCSI-Ethernet adaptor,
reporting it as "Not available". Cayman's "Node Informer" does the trick,
however. Also option-clicking the "Ethernet Built-In icon" in MacTCP 1.1.1
...

[Node Informer is available via anonymous ftp from ftp.cayman.com, as

        /pub/Net_Tools/Node_Informer_1.1.sea.hqx

along with other useful stuff. Thanks, Cayman !
]
--
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  Dept of Computing, Imperial College, 180 Queen's Gate, London SW7 2BZ, UK
  Janet: ih@uk.ac.ic.doc    Uucp: ih@icdoc.UUCP or ..!ukc!icdoc!ih        .
  DARPA: ih@doc.ic.ac.uk or ih%uk.ac.ic.doc@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk  . . . . . .
From: rickert@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: maclayers under sysV ???
Date: 5 Jan 1993 19:15:05 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu

I have something that compiles under IRIX, but doesnt quite
work properly...I think I am messing up the output
handling somewhere, but not quite sure how...
Keith
From: iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu (Jerry Wilcox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Any one Try HOLONET?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: 11 Jan 1993 21:37:42 GMT
Organization: University of California, Office of the President
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ajax.ucop.edu

In article <1imnpdINNr4@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, bm074@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
(David S Fung) wrote:
> 
> 
> Any body Holonet, i saw a serive offer fr them for FTP and internet 
> email. Any comment and what i need to use them?
> 
> how is it compare to other service like WORLDLINK?

I have a private Internet account (jcwilcox@holonet.net) using holonet as
the provider and am quite happy with it. In addition to email, I have
telnet and FTP access, access to USENET news groups, IRC, and several other
services, all for a very reasonable price.

I'd suggest that if holonet is available in your area, simply get the local
access number and login as 'guest'. You can then look around, and if you
like what you see, signup on-line.

-----------
Jerry Wilcox - iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu
All opinions expressed are MINE -- I'd have a different job if the
University wanted me to speak for it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Distribution: world
From: Sean_S._Lee@uu0570.foggybottom.com
Organization: Foggy Bottom / Washington, D.C.
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 00:22:04 EST
Subject: Re: Downloading

>Can anyone give me information on how to download a file from >an ftp 
>site.I'm using whiteknight comm.prog.and the Cybernet has x&z >downloading
>capibilities,but I can't figure out how to get files from the >server.

I am virtually positive that to get a file from an FTP site you type 'recv'
and then the file name...
Then to get that file from your Internet computer you type in 'sz' (for send
zmodem or 'sx' for send xmodem) and then the file name. The computer should
then promptly send that file to you.
I find that most files are in the .hqx (BinHex) format... of which you have to
decode. Or, if it has a .Z behind it, you just have to 'uncompress'. Or, if it
has a .uu behind it, you just have to 'uudecode'. Have fun... 'FTP'ing can
become addicting.

                       Sean_S._Lee@foggybottom.com ...
Foggy Bottom - your FirstClass Mac connection in Washington, DC

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.os.vms
From: ejbehr@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Eric Behr)
Subject: Re: Want a Mac front end for VMS Mail
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 04:41:04 GMT
Distribution: inet
Reply-To: behr@math.ilstu.edu (Eric Behr)
Organization: Central Illinois Surfing Club

kent b reuber <reuber@world.std.com> writes:
>
>   I have a user who wants some sort of front end for VMS mail.

Our folks who followed my advice and installed a POP server now all use
Eudora, and seem quite happy. One of the VMS servers was written at U of I,
I believe, so snoop around on ftp.cso.uiuc.edu.


-- 
Eric Behr, Illinois State University, Mathematics Department
behr@math.ilstu.edu   or   behr@ilstu.bitnet  (please avoid!)
From: sstrand@u.washington.edu (Stuart E. Strand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Bit-map to ASCII drawing
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:04:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: 128.sstrand-110193150948
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.95.36.218

Does anyone know of a Mac program that will make an ascii representation of
a bit map?  There is a program on Unix called pbmtoascii that does this. 
It would really be handy sometimes for email.

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From: Tom Davies <tomd@horse.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Is MacTCP 1.1.1 better than 1.1 on Sys 7.0?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A778FC8C010208B0@horse.demon.co.uk>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 12 Jan 93 22:54:04 GMT
Organization: None
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d16
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:54:50 GMT

I'm happily using system 7.0 and MacTCP 1.1 with MacSLIP.

Is there any reason for me to upgrade to MacTCP 1.1.1?
What will it do for me, aside from allowing me to use Sys 7.1?

Thanks,
	Tom
	
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From: rbenn@class.gsfc.nasa.gov (Ricardo Benn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: HELP! CommsTalk HC
Date: 6 Jan 93 14:37:48 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: NASA/GSFC, Code 531.1

I recently received a copy of the CommsTalk for Hypercard program.
I am in the process of developing a communications package that will
allow two Macintosh computers to communicate over a LAN or remote
link.  However, the documentation provided with the program is very
sketchy and the example programs are even worse.  Any recommendations
on how to approach the following would be appreciated :
  1. Software control of keyboard entry.
  2. Editing and data entry for terminal windows.
  3. Macintosh network specific parameters needed to be coded in order to
     allow two Macintoshes to send/receive files and messages.

Any help in the above mentioned areas would be appreciated.  I can be
reached
on the internet at rbenn@class.gsfc.nasa.gov.

R. Benn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: gleeson@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Red Mountain)
Subject: Re: Modem cable.
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 07:20:25 GMT

In <1993Jan5.050941.12336@sarah.albany.edu> pw4963@sarah.albany.edu (Peter G. White) writes:

>Can somebody tell me where i can find an actual modem cable diagram.
>I am trying to test the continuity from pin 2 to pin 5 and have no idea
>which pin is pin 2 and which pin is pin 5.

Check out the documentation for Dave Alverson's "ZTerm". He has included
pictures of the pin assignments towards the end of the docs.

Hope this helps.
Marty.
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"We gladly feast on those who would subdue us." - Addams |  ....(_)/(_)..  way!
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From: sandy@beeker.cs.umass.edu (Sandy Wise)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Duo Modems
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:22:57 GMT
Reply-To: wise@cs.umass.edu
Organization: Organization?  I thought entropy would take care of that...


   In article <1993Jan10.231808.17376@cujo.curtin.edu.au> (comp.sys.mac.comm), ken@cujo.curtin.edu.au (Ken Taylor) writes:
   >What's the word on Internal Modems for the PowerBook Duos..
   >
   >Are there any in production yet, and what is there to choose from ??
   >
   >Ken

Nobody but Apple has announced a modem for the Duo -- and they are
claimed to be released in March...  I have talked to both PSI and
GlobalVillage -- neither were willing to say that they might produce
one...  GlobalVillage said something about Apple having some
proprietary information, and PSI saying that the space in the Duo was
too small.
        /s
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From: aralston@hermes.ece.wisc.edu (Andy Ralston)
Subject: Telnet from online service?
Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison
Date: 9 Jan 93 15:56:14 CST

Greetings.  I am trying to find a commercial on-line service that supports
remote logins to unix systems via the internet.  Compuserve has told me they
don't dothis.  Are there others that do?  E-mail repsonse would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Andy Ralston
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