HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ESHEPHAR@BINGVMB.BITNET (Ed Shephard)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Calif. Death Records
Date: 20 Dec 92 07:03:02 GMT
Reply-To: Ed Shephard <ESHEPHAR@BINGVMB.BITNET>
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I have a question for California residents/researchers.

I need to get an Oakland death certificate from 1945.  What is the
fastest way to get this?  Should I write to the state Department
of Health, or would it be quicker to write to the county?  I have
an exact date of death.

I'm asking this because here in New York you'll wait over a year
to get a response from the state, but pretty quick from the locality.

Thanks!

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Ed Shephard, Glenn G. Bartle Library
Box 6012, State University of New York at Binghamton
Binghamton, NY  13902-6012
INTERNET: eshephar@bingvmb.cc.binghamton.edu
BITNET: eshephar@bingvmb
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Researching: BEERS,COOPER,CRITES,CRON,FOSTER,FOXWELL,FRENCH,GLOVER,
             HARRIS,HORIGAN,JANES,LOVELADY,MILLER,PETERSON,SHEPHARD,
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From: John.Boots@f8.n112.z1.f401.n322.z1.fidonet.org (John Boots)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Scottsdale Family Treasures books?
Date: 16 Dec 92 07:56:48 GMT


 
CB> One of my Bowlin cousins wrote to me:
 
CB> I recently recieved a letter from a company called Scottsdale
CB> Family Treasures, of Phoneix AZ. Are you familiar with them? They
CB> are offering a book about the Bowlins and requesting information
CB> about my family. Do you have any experience?
 
CB> I haven't heard of this company.  Does anyone out there know them?
CB> Is their book likely to be real genealogy or one of these "The
CB> Yournamehere Family in America" scams?  I checked the latest
CB> Genealogical Helper, hoping to find an ad with a list of books,
 
This outfit is a new wrinkle on an old scam.  Nuff said?

 * Origin: River City Roots (1:112/8)
From: Deb.Koplen@f4115.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Deb Koplen)
Sender: FredGate@ocitor.fidonet
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: CROPP/VA???
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:39:30

Desperately seeking to discuss the CROPP family with anyone who has a Virginia Connection.  I think I have a Susanna CROPP who married a R.L. Bullard and resided (at least their children did) in Spotsylvania Co., VA.  My negative research indictes that both mother and father died before 1838 leaving 1 boy and three girl orphans.  DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS FAMIL??? I also believe there is a CROPP family in Culpeper Co., VA that may be connected.

 * Origin: Southern Crossroads DFW METRO 817-481-8984 (1:124/4115)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: "Paul Purdom" <pwp@moose.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: GEDCOM
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 08:49:42 -0500

Will some kind soul please send me information on ordering specifications
of GEDCOM (the format that the Momons keep much of their geneological data
in). I know that the ordering information has been posted, and I thought
I kept it, but I can not find it.
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:08:36 CST
Reply-To:     Ed Mertes <mertes@STL-07SIMA.ARMY.MIL>
From:         Ed Mertes <mertes@STL-07SIMA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      PAF Version Number
Comments: To: roots-l@VM1.NODAK.EDU

Reference my previous message...

I am on PAF 2.2 (Aug 1991) for DOS.  I don't know where my
mind was when I entered 3.1.

Ed
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:13:47 CST
Reply-To:     Bill Green <green@plains.nodak.edu>
From:         Brad Green <green@PLAINS.NODAK.EDU>
Subject:      FAQ's
Comments: To: Genealogy Discussion List <ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.Edu>

Since there seems to be a whole bunch of new people on the List, and the
question of FAQ's has popped up again, this is the FAQ Index:


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            Frequently Asked Questions                            Filename
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ADDRESS HELP WITH ROOTS-L   .......................................FAQ 0101
HARDWARE TO USE FOR COMPUTERIZED GENEALOGISTS......................FAQ 0601
HOW TO GET STARTED IN GENEALOGY....................................FAQ 0701
MAIL ORDER SOLICITATIONS FOR "YOUR" FAMILY ROOTS...................FAQ 0501
QUESTIONS TO ASK WHEN SEARCHING YOUR FAMILY ROOTS..................FAQ 0301
RESOURCES FOR INFORMATION..........................................FAQ 0401
SOFTWARE TO USE FOR COMPUTERIZED GENEALOGISTS (IBM) ...............FAQ 0201
SOFTWARE TO USE FOR COMPUTERIZED GENEALOGISTS (Commodore) .........FAQ 0202
SOFTWARE TO USE FOR COMPUTERIZED GENEALOGISTS (Atari) .............FAQ 0203
SOFTWARE TO USE FOR COMPUTERIZED GENEALOGISTS (Amiga ).............FAQ 0204
SOFTWARE TO USE FOR COMPUTERIZED GENEALOGISTS (Radio Shack TRS80) .FAQ 0205
SOFTWARE TO USE FOR COMPUTERIZED GENEALOGISTS (Apple/Mac) ....... .FAQ 0206

These FAQ's can be gotten by either:

1)  FTP to vm1.nodak.edu, cd to ROOTS-L, and get whatever file you like.
    Use the format "get FAQ.0101", note there is a period "." between
    FAQ and the number.

2)  Send an email message to LISTSERV@VM1.nodak.edu (NOTE: NOT TO ROOTS-L)
    with no subject line (it's ignored) and the message "get FAQ 0101".
    Note, there is no period between FAQ and the number.

These FAQ's should answer your beginning questions - happy hunting!
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|   Bill Green   Minot, North Dakota   |      Home of the H0STFEST     |
|        green@plains.nodak.edu        |Forget the "Brad", it's really |
|     ak385@cleveland.freenet.edu      |             BILL              |
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| RESEARCHING:  Stanley  IA/KS  1871-       Cook  IA/KS  1850-         |
|               Brown  MA/KS  1579-         Mason NY/IA  1800-         |
|               Lamb   NC/KS  1851-         Maxwell  NY  1800-         |
|               Wilson IN/IL  1871-         Hediger -  Swiss           |
| Anhorn - Kotchian - Kohoutek - Havlena - Marschall (E. Europe)       |
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Newsgroups: soc.roots
Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:15:59 -0500
Reply-To:     Carol Botteron <botteron@BU-IT.BU.EDU>
From:         Carol Botteron <botteron@BU-IT.BU.EDU>
Subject:      Tell Us What Computer It Runs On!
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU

Anyone who posts an article mentioning PAF or any other software,
or asking about software:

     TELL US WHAT COMPUTER IT RUNS ON!

There have been several messages in the past few days either asking
about software or talking about PAF, but not mentioning the hardware.
PAF is available not only for IBM but also for Macintosh, and older
versions for other computers are still out here.  There are several
other programs that are available for more than one computer.

By telling us which version of software you are talking about (e.g.
PAF 2.2 for IBM) or what computer you want software for, you are
sparing readers from being annoyed, you are sparing people from
having to post messages asking what you are talking about, and you
are sparing yourself from having curses put on you by readers who
have read too many vague software messages of which yours is the Nth.

This goes along with other examples of Roots courtesy, e.g. when
you ask a question, you are much more likely to get help if you tell
us what you already know and where you have looked.  The people on
Roots are as helpful and informed a group as you could hope to find
anywhere, but nobody has infinite time to figure out what a poster
is trying to say.

A word to the wise, I hope.
Carol Botteron     botteron@bu-it.bu.edu   botteron@ai.mit.edu
Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: barrus@cod.nosc.mil
Subject: Anybody know a researcher in Augusta, Maine?
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:30:14 GMT


OK, if no-one lives there (that is reading this message, of course),
then does anyone know of a researcher who does?

barrus@cod.nosc.mil

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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:46:03 -0500
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From:         FAC_DBOYDRUS@JMUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      More Scottish Rebels to Virginia

There were 83 rebels who were not indentured on the "Elizabeth and Anne"
which landed in Yorktown, VA, 13 October 1716.  The others were indentured
and were previously posted.
Jno. Wite
Alex. Wite
Thos. Allen
Willm. Mackilway
Owen Davidson
Alexr. Watt
Alex. Mackenzie
Malcolm Macknaughton
James Wood
Willm. Donaldson
James Robertson
Willm. Martin
Francis Betty
David Mitchel
Donald Mackgilsoray
Frederick Abbot
Silvester Prophet
Danl. Macquin
Alexr. Bruce
Jno. Glendinning
Willm. Wright
Robt. Capland
Geo. Majoribanks
Jno. Pitello (?)
Jno. Peter
Jno. Harris
Patrick Ferguson
Jno. Johnston
Adam
Chisholm
Jno. Finney
James Malcum
Wm. Finaly
William Stroak
James Paterson
Alexr. Ferguson
Jon. Michy
David Arnot
James Mackintosh
Lawrence Ferguson
James Peter
William Mackruther
Jno. Donaldson
Jno. Ogilvy
David Mackintosh
Wm. Noble
James Watson
Alexr. Kerr
Robt. Grant
Alexr. Kid
Robt. Menzies
Robt. Anderson
James Lindsey
James Urquhart
Robt. Duncan
James Johnson
Jo. Brown
James Ray
Jno. Shaw
Geo. Lowder
Robt. Robertson
Jno. Abercromby
James Murray
Jno. Mundell
Robt.Stewart
Wm. Lyon
Hugh Cane
Pat Stewart
Jno. Burns
Charles Henderson
Jno. Stewart
Alexr. Carr
Alexander Stewart
Willm. Cruster
Jno. MacKintosh
Donald Stewart
Jno. Rutherford
Willm. Dun
Alexr. Stewart
James Watson (2)
Robt. Carr
James Stewart
Willm. Maxwell
James Ferguson
What happened to them?  I've information on many of them but not all.  Any ideas
   and/or information you have would be greatly appreciated.

Dorothy A. Boyd-Rush
FAC_DBOY@JMUVAX
FAC_DBOYDRUS@VAX.ACS.EDU
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Date:         Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:19:03 -0400
Reply-To:     "Elliot C. Jolesch" <CELLIOT@OCVAXA.CC.OBERLIN.EDU>
From:         "Elliot C. Jolesch" <CELLIOT@OCVAXA.CC.OBERLIN.EDU>
Subject:      1920 Census Info
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

Dear fellow Rooters;

Does anyone have access to the 1920 US Census for the Chicago area.

I am believe that there were some Jolesch's living in Chicago in the early
1900's and I thought one possible way to locate them would be to check
the 1920 census.

If anyone has access to these records please contact me either via the net
or by phone (216) 775-6930 or (216) 774-1652.

Thanks in advance for the help.

Happy Holidays!


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Elliot C. Jolesch                   CELLIOT@OCVAXA.CC.OBERLIN.EDU
Oberlin, Ohio                       Compuserve: 70041,137
                                    Office: (216) 775-6930
                                      Home: (216) 774-1652
RESEARCHING:

Jolesch    (Ohio, Missouri, Texas)       Goldstein (New York, Texas)
Cerf       (Texas, Missouri, France)     Adler     (New York, Texas)
Raphael    (Ohio, Texas)                 Mann      (Connecticut, New York)
Chaska     (Texas)                       Freeman   (Poland, Minnesota, Texas)
Dreyfus    (Texas, France)               Silverman (Minnesota, Texas)

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From: kac@BOM.GOV.AU (Kerry Casey)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: FirstSearch IP address
Date: 21 Dec 92 03:01:04 GMT
Reply-To: Kerry Casey <kac@BOM.GOV.AU>
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Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU

I've seen two requests for a repeat of the address information for
FirstSearch. Here it is. I apologise if someone else has already
re-posted this information.

I used it last week, and got some great stuff. However, when trying
again today, I got a time out on my telnet session. So, Good luck!

> Date 17 December 1992
>
>        OCLC's WorldCat FirstSearch is available to the public for a trial
>period (I don't know how long).  You must be able to telnet.  The address is:
>
>                telnet 132.174.100.2
>
>                Authorization number:   100077527
>
>                Password:  fsearch
>
>        This is the world's most comprehensive bibliography, with over 25
>million records, updated daily.  It is very user friendly.  Try it!
>
>        Unfortunately, I am too busy also with my own work and research to do
>searches for individuals (it's final exam time here).  I just hope to get as
>many searches of my own done before the trial period ends.
>        May you all have a Joyous Winter Solstice!
>
>
>
>     *******************************************************
>    / Daniel Kortenkamp, PhD / Office: (715) 346-3953  \/\/
>   /\  UW-Psychology        /  Home: (715) 344-5844     \/
>  /\/\  Stevens Point, WI  / dkortenk@uwspmail.uwsp.edu /
> /\/\/\            54481  /    "Stay forever young!"   /
>*******************************************************
>



Kerry Casey
kac@bom.gov.au
21 December 1992

Researching CASEY, BERRIMAN, WALSH in Australia/Britain/Ireland
and OLIVER in England/USA/Australia
From: lincoln@rand.org (Tom Lincoln)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: wow! (Re: FirstSearch)
Date: 19 Dec 92 13:23:06 GMT
Organization: RAND

In article <1992Dec18.151348.26441@compu.com> fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home) writes:
>jlc5f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jean L. Cooper) writes:
>
>I've received some wonderful booklists here from Melvyl or wherever, but that 
>does not mean that my county library was able to get all those books for me.
>
>Tom Lincoln recently sent me another batch. We'll see what that will get me. 
>Those books were again all in CA. Maybe Melvyl is CA bound? 
>
As has been pointed out, the Sutro Library of the Univ. of CA has rather
complicated rules for ILL, limited to books after ? 1925 and items that
are not unique. Given the reference, it should be possible to find
another source, but if your library is not good at that, then you may
need to find a larger library that is more on-line and can find such
sources more easily.

Any ideas librarians?

Tom
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:18:18 -0500
Reply-To:     Carol Botteron <botteron@BU-IT.BU.EDU>
From:         Carol Botteron <botteron@BU-IT.BU.EDU>
Subject:      ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU

In a recent article I mentioned _Books_In_Print_ and
_Readers_Guide_to_Periodical_Literature_, and asked:
>
> Anyone know other helpful not-quite-genealogical resources?

Martin Davis <mrd@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU> emailed to me:

   _America: History and Life_ is a serial bibliography of all periods
   and aspects of American and Canadian life.  In addition to the
   print edition, there is a CD-ROM, and the dial up database on
   _Knowledge Index_, the nighttime and weekend _Dialog_ product.
   Most large university libraries will have the print edition and/or
   one or both of the computer versions.

   It is a spin-off of _Historical Abstracts_ which covers the last 4
   centuries or so of world history.

   Both titles are worth asking about at nearby (esp. large) libraries.

I asked MRD if he'd like me to post this, to which he replied:

   Go ahead, if you wish.  If there's a response, I'll look up more
   precise information on _AHL_ and _HA_ and even _KI_.

Thank you, MRD!

This reminds me of another potential resource:
_The_Timetables_of_History_ by Bernard Grun (based on Werner Stein's
_Kulturfahrplan_) is a book that is basically a gigantic chart
showing, for each year, what was happening in the fields of:
History and Politics
Literature and Theater
Religion and Philosophy
Visual Arts
Music
Science and Technology
Daily Life

Carol Botteron     botteron@bu-it.bu.edu     botteron@ai.mit.edu
From: lincoln@rand.org (Tom Lincoln)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Clayburne/Claiborne and other Missouri questions....
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:08:57 GMT
Organization: RAND

In article <ROOTS-L%92121709373657@VM1.NODAK.EDU> "Dorothy M. Paul (219) 239-8694" <LGG4BD@IRISHMVS.BITNET> writes:
>
>Missouri question:  are there area's in Missouri that a majority
>of the settlers came from one state or county?  I'm interested
>to know if there is a town or county that a large number of
>settlers from Virginia migrated to?  I'm begining to believe
>that both my Clayburne's and Berkley's came from Virginia to
>Missouri, probably at the *beginning*, *during* or *after* the
>Civil War(1860's), but I'm not sure where to look for them ????

Settlers in Missouri came from two directions: In my family one group
came from PA, MD, KY via OH and IN to KS as northerners. A second group
came from VA and NC via TN, AL, MS to AR as southerners. They can be
found in TN in from 1810 to 1820, and in AR in 1850. Some moved transiently
in 1860 to MO, and then back to AR with the coming of the Civil War. (Some
from KS moved back to IN.) By 1870 they are in MO again. This seems to be
a common pattern...

Kansas was settled (like Missouri) from the north and south (remember the
Dread Scott decision and "bleeding Kansas"?) Some sense of the southern
treck is given in:

42.
Author: Robertson, Clara Hamlett.
Title:  Kansas territorial settlers of 1860, who were born in Tennessee,
	Virginia, North Carolina, and South Carolina : a compilation
	with historical annotations and editorial comment / by Clara
	Hamlett Robertson. Baltimore : Genealogical Pub. Co., 1976.
Description:    xxviii, 187 p. : ill. ; 27 cm.

Notes:  Includes indexes.
	Bibliography: p. 185-187.

Subjects:       Kansas -- Genealogy.
	Southern States -- Genealogy.

Other entries: Kansas territorial settlers of 1860 ...

Call numbers:   CSL     Sutro   F680 .R6


This might be helpful...

Tom
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 10:31:47 -0800
Reply-To:     Frieda Davison <fdavison@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU>
From:         Frieda Davison <fdavison@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU>
Subject:      Sutro ILL (part 2)
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

Just confirmed with my ILL people.  Sutro Library does NOT participate
in OCLC Interlibrary Loan (which for you non-library people is a nation
wide database of over 20 mil. records from libraries around the world.)

Anyway, all interlibrary loans to Sutro must go on "ALA forms" via
U. S. mail.
 However, my head of ILL suggests that you find out if your home
library can fax the request to Sutro.  That will speed up the
delivery of the request -- at least from your end.

Frieda Davison
San Francisco State University Library
Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: 2351625ec400@vaxr.sscl.uwo.ca
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Sodens and Raymonds
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:24:42 GMT
Organization: Social Science Computing Laboratory

Season's Greetings All!

	I am looking for information regarding the SODEN and RAYMOND families
of NJ and CT, respectively. LEMUEL FOWLER SODEN (1851-1934), of Harbourtown, NJ
married ESTELLA LOUISE RAYMOND (1856-1932) of Darien, CT. They had 6 (?)
children, one of whom was my g-granfather, HERMAN FLOYD JOHN SODEN (1880-1941).
Any information on these families would be greatly appreciated.

					Cheers,

					Mike Irwin
                                        2351625ec400@vaxr.sscl.uwo.ca
				   or   mike.irwin@homebase.com
		
						
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 11:10:00 CST
Reply-To:     Bill Page <WRP5404@TAMRIGEL.BITNET>
From:         Bill Page <WRP5404@TAMRIGEL.BITNET>
Subject:      FirstSearch

Here at Texas A&M (in College Station, Texas), we have
FirstSearch available to the public.  I can verify that it is
indeed very expensive for a library to subscribe to -- as far as
I know, there's no way an individual could subscribe, since the
system depends on those fees to stay in operation.

While you can access the A&M catalog electronically, you'd be
blocked from accessing FirstSearch unless you were a student or
on the staff or faculty here ... that's required by our licensing
agreement.

I suggest that you contact your nearest *large* public or college
library, and ask them whether they have access to FirstSearch.
FirstSearch actually consists of several different databases --
education, geology, business, etc.  The one genealogists would
use in most cases is called "WorldCat".

You can search not only by family names, but by subjects
(Baptists) or places (Orange Co., North Carolina) or by formats
(maps), etc.  This is a really nifty database.

I'm sorry, but I just don't have time to look up references for
researchers ... Like most of you, I don't have time to do my own
research.

I hope this helps somewhat.

Bill Page
208 Dellwood St.
Bryan, Texas 77801
(409) 845-1952  (work)
(409) 779-2588  (home)
wrp5404@tamu.edu
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Date:         Sun, 13 Dec 1992 15:28:09 -0500
Reply-To:     Carol Botteron <botteron@BU-IT.BU.EDU>
From:         Carol Botteron <botteron@BU-IT.BU.EDU>
Subject:      Scottsdale Family Treasures books?
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU

One of my Bowlin cousins wrote to me:

   I recently recieved a letter from a company called Scottsdale
   Family Treasures, of Phoneix AZ. Are you familiar with them? They
   are offering a book about the Bowlins and requesting information
   about my family. Do you have any experience?

I haven't heard of this company.  Does anyone out there know them?
Is their book likely to be real genealogy or one of these "The
Yournamehere Family in America" scams?  I checked the latest
Genealogical Helper, hoping to find an ad with a list of books,
but no luck.

Any information welcome.  You may as well post it, in case other
people have received similar offers.

aTdHvAaNnKcSe!
Carol Botteron     botteron@bu-it.bu.edu     botteron@ai.mit.edu
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