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From: akumar@pollux.usc.edu (Anant Kumar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: SpicMacay:L. Subramaniam(violin):LEC-DEM:Sep23:FREE
Date: 2 Sep 1992 09:27:13 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu


  Society for Promotion of Indian Classical Music And Culture Amongst Youth
                                (SPIC-MACAY)

                                 presents

                   An evening (Lecture-Demonstration) with

			      Violin Virtuoso


                             Dr. L. SUBRAMANIAM


				accompanied
			    on the MRIDANGAM by
				  GANESH

                        Wednesday Sept. 23, 1992, 7:30 pm.
			
   		     Crystal Cove Auditorium, Student Center
			   University of California
				   Irvine


		**ALSO AT:
		 US International Univ., SAN DIEGO. Sept. 24th, 7:30 pm.
			  Call (619) 291 9377 for more Info.
		**

                        ADMISSION FREE AND OPEN TO ALL.
	     (First Come First Served, limited by hall capacity)

		For CARPOOL and other info, contact:

                           UC, Irvine       (714) 856-3589 (Sanjiv)
                           USC, Los Angeles (213) 745-2917 (Kartik)
                           UC, Los Angeles  (310) 312-1644 (Munira)
			   CSU, Fullerton   (714) 992-5875 (Subha)

                or e-mail: narayan@ics.uci.edu (sanjiv)
			   anantk@usc.edu (anant)

Lecture-Demonstration: 
---------------------
The artist explains the art form and its intricacies. 
Dr. Subramaniam will present the Violin as a Carnatic music instrument
and explain the subtleties of Indian music.

Directions and Parking:
----------------------

 405 south or 5 South
 exit Jamboree go right
 left at campus
 right at bridge (2nd light)
 left at Pereira (1st light) 
 enter parking garage on the left.
 Crystal Cove is in the Student Center opp from the garage,

 PARKING: $ 2 per car.
From: gudimet@apee.ogi.edu (Rao Gudimetla)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Re:Baghdad is an iranian city
Date: 26 Aug 92 02:12:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.41916
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute, Applied Physics & Electrical Engineering, Beaverton

In article SAYED@auvm.american.edu writes:
>
>yes, but you forgot one thing,  there was no land on earth and Iranians
>created it, then they invented IBM (Iranian Business Machines).  Later
>they discovered Internet (Iranian National TERminal NETwork), and
>now they claim they invented the entire world.  And of course!
>did you know Iranians invented India, the Hindu's couldn't pick a name
>for their country so Iranians came up with HINDUSTAN(land of Hindoos)
>oh and also, the Pyramids in Egypt were built by Iranians and
>last but not least, Elvis is alive and lives in Iran, I can't remember
>now, was he Iranian also??   From some of the previous posting I gather
>Iranians are like 'Bo', they know everything.  Is Bo Jackson Iranian??
>
>Sayed

 Prior to the arrival of iranians etc., India used to be called Bharat.
In all prayers, ceremonies, rituals by priests, even today at the
begining of the puja ( ritual+prayer), the priests reads some thing
as follows:
( this ceremony is being conducted in.....)
in bharatvarshe ( bharat land) , in jumbu dwipe ( continent of Jumbu- 
a name)...... on ( time, date , year... according to "Hindu" calendar)
( then follows a description of constellations, stars for that
day )......

Such a procedure is being followed for centuries.
This is the name which India adopted after independance.

In any case, can you prove your assertion. I think that the
problem with many cultures that invaded India think they gave us
"culture" and education with out knowing they too learnt from 
Indians. I wish to add respectfully that these cultures are
faring today no better than the indian ( hindu, you may say) culture
that they think they gave name to.

Rao Gudimetla
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:34:33 EDT
From: <OMARS@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Tragedy strikes....again


If it's not bullets, it's rockets, and if it's not rockets it's floods.
The people of Afghanistan have been struck with, yet, another tragedy.
This time it's not at the bloodied hands of power-hungry, war-mongering
rocket-launching killers of our children and women, but as a result of flash
floods from the sky-high ranges of the Hindu Kush mountains.

The latest numbers indicate at least 450 dead, 500 missing and thousands
rendered homeless. Hundreds of houses have been buried under torrents of
water, mud and boulders.

Worst of all, the floods stuck at 3 a.m. Not much chance to escape or expect
as people were swept away or trapped in the mud.

The area hardest hit is North of Kabul. In the town of Golbahar, 45 miles
North of Kabul, floods swept away several buses full of passengers.

Government relief efforts are having difficulties reaching the devastated
areas.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
From: taleghani@ranger.enet.dec.com (Bardia Taleghani)
Subject: Farsi in Afghanistan
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 27 AUG 92 12:31:03 EST

Hello,
I would like to know what percent of afghani people speak farsi.  And what
areas of the country do these farsi speaking people live.
Regards,
Bardia Taleghani 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
From: lhermi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Lotfi Hermi)
Subject: teston only
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 18:38:12 GMT

this is only a test--
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Wednesday, 26 Aug 1992 22:49:54 EDT
From: <SAYED@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Re:Baghdad is an iranian city
Distribution: usa


In article <41916@ogicse.ogi.edu>, gudimet@apee.ogi.edu (Rao Gudimetla) says:
>
> Prior to the arrival of iranians etc., India used to be called Bharat.
>In all prayers, ceremonies, rituals by priests, even today at the
>begining of the puja ( ritual+prayer), the priests reads some thing
>
>Such a procedure is being followed for centuries.
>This is the name which India adopted after independance.
>
>In any case, can you prove your assertion. I think that the
_________________________________________________
>problem with many cultures that invaded India think they gave us
-----------------------------------------------------------------
>"culture" and education with out knowing they too learnt from
>Indians. I wish to add respectfully that these cultures are
>faring today no better than the indian ( hindu, you may say) culture
>that they think they gave name to.
>

Rao, relax!!, we were not trying to bash on Hindus or anything
against India, the entire idea was just sarcasm.  Read my note again,
do you realy think Elvis is alive and lives in Iran??  The reason for
my previous response was, if Baghdad is a Persian name, who gives a
sh*%.  We can set here all day, months, years and argue as to who had
the  most ancient culture, but at the end most will come up, that
the first 2 human on earth were Adam and Eve and they were not
Iranian, nor chineese nor Hindu, they were just human.  I have a comic
on my desk that has a picture of a cave man reading a book and it says:
'While other land animals were just playing around and having a good time
 mankind was hard at work trying to figure out how to stay on top of the
 water.'
All I am saying is people, enjoy life while you can.  If Baghdad is an
Iranian name, I will call my causin Hussain and have him change it to
Al-Baghdad and that will make it Arabic.  And as far is the ancient
civilization sh%$ is concerend, correct if I am wrong but the earliest
remaining of mankind was found in Africa, Luci was the name wasn't it??
I wonder if Luci was Iranian!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Rao Gudimetla

King Sayed Hussaini

--------------------------------------------------------------
Ross Perot and Frank Purdu for president!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Partial list of arrests.
Date: 1 Sep 92 23:38:16 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.


The Syrian-imposed Hrawi regime has arrested hundreds of men and women
some of whom are:

Patrick Abi-Fadel
Ghassan Abi-Nader
Abdo el-Asmar
Raymond al-Hashem
Walid el-Hashem
Rania Aoun
Farid Attiyeh
Riyad Ayyoub
Elie Bakri
Roula Barakat
Maya Barakat
Jean Barbarian
Peter Germanos
Carole Ghoche
Karine Choche
Antoine Harb
Charles Homsy
Malek Ibrahim
Nabil Kassis
George As'aad Kenaan
George Khalil
Joe Khoury
George Mhawej
Sharbel Nahra
Abdo Riskallah
George Rizkallah
Nabil Salameh
Toufic Salloum
Tony Shahine
Naji Shehwan
George Shemaly
Philippe Shemaly
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: eliedw@ulrik.uio.no (Elie Dib Wardini)
Subject: Re: The fundamentalist scare (ploy).
Organization: Univerity of Oslo, Semitics dep.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 08:40:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.232747.2464@njitgw.njit.edu> elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie I.
Mourad) writes:
>
>From CLAO:
>----------
>
>Hazem Sagiyeh wrote in yesterday's al-Hayat that Syria is using 
>those fundamentalists as a scare tactic to win over Christian, 
>secular Muslims, and most importantly the US. 
>Syria hopes that if everybody is given a choice between Syrian 
>occupation and the control of Hezballah, then everyone will chose
>Syria.
>

This is not a new note that the Syrians, Hafez has played.

Long ago, from the beginning of the war, have heard (and me personally) that it
was better for us with Assad on the throne than the Muslim brothers.

It was also indicated that Assad was the best ally the Maronites could have in
the Middle East. It is in Syria's favor that the Marinitres continue in the
presidency (but weak Maronites!).

When I answered a well informed American lady who had lived very long in
Lebanon saying: "when we have such allies, who needs enemies?" she was shocked
at the words she herself had uttered!


elie wardini
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: eliedw@ulrik.uio.no (Elie Dib Wardini)
Subject: Re: Elections in Lebanon
Organization: Univerity of Oslo, Semitics dep.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 08:11:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.025519.9156@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu>
rached@sample.eng.ohio-state.edu (Rached Zantout) writes:

>
>Finally, it is a shame that the opposition did not run in the elections, since
if they had done so we would have known for sure how much every leader of the
so called opposition has support among his supposed followers. Till now we hear
speculations about how much this person is honored or loved in this area or the
other. The elections were the only way to verify those claims. Unfortunately,
those that didn't participate will not be able to proof that they are supported
by the people or not !
>


Rached, The pople who did take part in the elections DID INDEED vote. They did
not vote for a certain person, or a certain government, they told the world,
and especially the Hrawi regime and the Syrians that they were not wanted.

I do not care how much Aoun, Geagea, Salam Gemayel or any other goon has
popular support.

The fact is that the politicians, and the first one between them is the
Patriarch Sfeir, who had to change their policies because of the people who
opposed their politics and attitude.

Elections should be an instrument to measure the popularity of a certain
leader. Elections is to let he population choose representatives.

Thus what has happened in Lebanon after the theatre that we have witnessed, is
that the opposition (note the low turnout among Muslims) DID infact vote.

Yet they voted for a choice that was not given them:

-	To show the present regime that it does not represent the
	people

-	to tell Syria that it is an occupying force and that it
	is not wanted.


elie wardini
From: elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Syria - Lebanon - Heroin
Date: 1 Sep 92 23:46:05 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.


From CLAO:
----------

Mr. Jack Newfield wrote in the New York Post (Aug. 31) that the 
"Bekaa valley produces up to 25% of the heroin that enters the 
United States. The drug traffic is a motive behind Syria's occupation
of Lebanon and the Beirut port."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: s9232@harvey.gte.com (Hammad Azzam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Lebanease Bacc. II
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:21:54 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: GTE Laboratories

Does anybody know if the Lebanease Bacc. II results were announced yet?
If yes, what are the statistics?

Thanks 

-- 
Hammad Azzam					     	      GTE Laboratories
(617) 466-4084                                                40 Sylvan Road
Internet: s9232@gte.com                                       Waltham, MA 02254
Xref: sparky soc.culture.lebanon:3912 soc.culture.arabic:3498 talk.politics.mideast:19512
From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon,soc.culture.arabic,talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: Syrian VW Joke
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:52:48 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.lebanon
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver


>A man was arrested at the Syrian check point in Lebanon because he was caught
>smuggling an engine in the rear trunk of his VW Bug.

>(Iftah al sandooq,  sho ma`ak?  The man opens the rear trunk)
>(Wlaaaa -  Mharrib matoor, (damascus accent) , w - dayir kaman).

>It is said that the soldier hit him the engine was running during 
>the smuggling operation (hazardous).

>Another man was arrested there because he was 
>smuggling a car battery under the seat of an Audi 5000S. :)



Ya hara harreeshak ....  :-)  :D

A.
From: howard@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: New York Times article
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:00:59 GMT
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <fryyncr@rpi.edu>, batrur@lib109.its.rpi.edu (Rony Samy Batruni) writes:
>   " Don't Sell Out Lebanon " by Amin Gemayel is in New York Times
> 
>    Op/Ed page (A23, 9/3/92).
> 
> 
>  Rony Batruni.


Yes, it was on the 3rd. My page A13 versus yours A23 is probably
due to the national edition being smaller than the edition issued
in the state of New York and other areas (we don't get all the local
ads). 

Would like to know what percentage of the population voted and what
indications there were of it being a (somewhat) fair or unfair election. 

-Mary Howard
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000)
Subject: (AOUN SUPPORTERS OVERWHELMING) Re: Elections in Lebanon
Organization: LC
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 00:35:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.192632.19726@njitgw.njit.edu> elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad) writes:
>
>Aoun really bothers you ? The current regime is Aoun's best ally.
>
>           Los Angeles Times - Tuesday August 25, 1992
>
>        The first choice of many Lebanese across the sectarian board is
>Gen. Michel Aoun, the exiled ex-head of the Lebanese army who was
>toppled by Syria in 1990. In the darkness of underpasses and  tunnels
>across the country, drivers sound out what is called here the "Aoun
>beep", a rhythmic honking that signifies support for the general. Aoun
>has been barred from politics until 1996, but he could be write-in
>candidate.

A friend of mine just visited Tripoli/Lebanon, and returned a few
days ago to Canada.  He was stunned with the amount of Aoun
supporters in Lebanon, even among muslims.  As he passed thru the 
Tunnel  (I think right at Nahr Al kalb), the hunking was 
massive from cars passing thru the dark Tunnel. He asked the driver:  
What the hunking is all about?  Support for Aoun ; the driver
replied.  It is said that Aoun, prior to his departure, asked
the lebanese to honk as they pass thru the tunnel as a sign
of support.  My friend said that his taxi driver (a muslim from
Tripoli) contributed in the hunking.  My friend also mentioned that 
police on motorcycles tended to cite those that over hunk.

On the other hand, my friend mentioned that the current government
of Lebanon appears to be very fair, and not prefer Christians
over Muslims like the typical Lebanese governments in the past.

He also mentioned that it is echoing in Lebanon that as soon as
the Syrian Army leaves the nation, it is very likely that the
Quwwat and others will carry further massacres in the Palestinian
refugee camps since they are accusing the Palestinians of destroying
Lebanon.  

Note that the above 3 points were said to me by others.  I am
just telling you all what I heard.  Don't flame me if you 
don't like that muslims support Aoun, or Quwwat will massacre, or ...

jle





Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Subject: Re: Jesse Helms
Reply-To: hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:56:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.234416.8624@njitgw.njit.edu>, elie@hdtv.njit.edu
(Elie I. Mourad) writes:
> 
> From CLAO:
> ----------
> Senator Jesse Helms wrote in today's Washington Post that the United States
> should stop selling to Syria civilian products with potential military
> applications. Helms added: "We can stop giving Syria military preferences.
> We can refuse to recognize the Hrawi regime." Senator Helms concluded:
> "Assad believes the United States will sacrifice Lebanon to the peace
> process. We must advise Assad that peace should be for everyone. Lebanon
> should not be occupied by Syrian troops or by a Syrian puppet regime."

Watch out when playing with the devil.

I wrote to Senator Helms about the Israeli attacks on Lebanon some time
ago and in his reply he did not once mention Israel but instead wrote on
and on about Syria. I don't think Senator Helms would have any problem
with an Israeli puppet regime in Lebanon. He certainly doesn't give a
damn about Israeli troops rocketting and shelling Lebanese villages.

Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU)
From: elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: Jesse Helmes
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:56:15 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <3920@keele.keele.ac.uk>, phd21@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A. Jaber) writes:
|> >From: elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad)
|> 
|> Elie Mourad Wrote about Jesse Helmes:
|> 
|> >very pro-Lebanon. He is also well informed about the Syrian controlled 
|> >drug trafficking in Lebanon. 
|> 
|> 	Does that mean there was no drug trade in Lebanon before Syria
|> 	started to control it?

Drug cultivation and export has grown by at least an order of magnitude
if not more. (I'll try to dig up statistics)
While Hashish cultivation has stabilized in terms of tons/year, the 
more lucrative opium production has increased by orders of magnitude.
By some estimates, 230,000 Lebanese use illegal substances.

|> 	Does that mean Syria controls the Lebanense Drug Dealers who are
|> 	in USA mainly Manahattan?

The relationship is simple, drugs=money money=power. Many 
officials in both Syria and Lebanon and involved. Even some Israelis
were arrested some time ago for pipelining drugs into Israel.
Assad and his clique use narcotics trafficking to get hard currencies; at the same
time he believes that drugs are a good way to destabilize the western democracies.

This issue is similar to the PKK and other Syrian-sponsored training camps in 
Lebanon.
When Turkey pressed Assad about them, he said, "hey, these camps are in
Lebanon, don't look at me". But when Turkey promised direct retaliation,
Assad quickly closed down the camps. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon,soc.culture.arabic,talk.politics.mideast
From: davidba@carmel.technion.ac.il (David Ben_Ami)
Subject: Re: Syrian VW Joke
Organization: Technion, Israel Inst. of Technology
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 08:48:40 GMT

>P.S. I apoligize to all of our brotherly Syrian people, and to all of
>the Syrian soldiers serving Lebanon. This was meant as a humorous joke
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>and not as an insult.  :) :) :)
>

Don't you mean occupying Lebanon??

Or is that term is saved only for Israelis?

>jle

david.
-- 
=============================================================================
  David Ben-Ami (irc: bigdav)      |   "I can resist anything but Temptation"
  s2780369@Techst02.Technion.Ac.Il |       Oscar Wilde
  davidba@Carmel.Technion.Ac.Il  davidba@Moav.Techniona.Ac.Il
From: elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: Elections in Lebanon
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:26:32 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

fardoun_a@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:

	it was about time to change the passports since some of them were
printed by the illegitimate goverment of Aoun and besides the fact that 
every organization were issuing some faked passports (PLO,......etc.)

Elie replies:

Aoun really bothers you ? The current regime is Aoun's best ally.

           Los Angeles Times - Tuesday August 25, 1992

        The first choice of many Lebanese across the sectarian board is
Gen. Michel Aoun, the exiled ex-head of the Lebanese army who was
toppled by Syria in 1990. In the darkness of underpasses and  tunnels
across the country, drivers sound out what is called here the "Aoun
beep", a rhythmic honking that signifies support for the general. Aoun
has been barred from politics until 1996, but he could be write-in
candidate.

Regards, Elie.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000)
Subject: Re: New York Times article
Organization: LC
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 00:20:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.121639.6477@iscsvax.uni.edu> howard@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>Hi again.
>
>Some of you may be interested in the prominant article in today's
>New York Times Op/Ed page (A13, 9/2/92), entitled " Don't Sell Out
>Lebanon", by Amin Geymeyal. 
>
>Here are some exerpts:
>
>   "Lebanon, the first nation in the Arab Middle East to institute
>    modern democratic precepts, has a history of vigorous electoral
>    contests reflecting a more than century-old liberal tradition. 
>    Indeed, this long attachment to democratic values indicates the 
>    farce- rather, the tragedy- of what are passing for elections in 
>    Lebanon on Sunday. 
>    
>    Sadly lacking in this electoral hoax is any audible voice from the
>    U.S. The Bush Administration is fully aware that the vast majority
>    of Lebanese are firmly opposed to holding these elections. More and
			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
HOW untrue.  The only opposition is the Phalangists and Company ( The
Kataeb Party).  Besides, the majority of Lebanon are muslims, not
even one oposition voice sounded out of the muslim community.  In
fact great amounts of the Christinas in Lebanon voted.  Take all
of the North's Zghartawiyeen, Al Qbayyat, ...etc all had candidates,
and no oposition.

I don't know why people like to lie.   Take it from the Article, NY times,
the known to be pro-israel.

jle
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Jesse Helms
Date: 1 Sep 92 23:44:16 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.


From CLAO:
----------
Senator Jesse Helms wrote in today's Washington Post that the United States
should stop selling to Syria civilian products with potential military
applications. Helms added: "We can stop giving Syria military preferences.
We can refuse to recognize the Hrawi regime." Senator Helms concluded:
"Assad believes the United States will sacrifice Lebanon to the peace
process. We must advise Assad that peace should be for everyone. Lebanon
should not be occupied by Syrian troops or by a Syrian puppet regime."
From: ghassoun@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (George Hassoun)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Test
Date: 31 Aug 92 01:42:25 GMT
Organization: Electrical and Electronic Eng., University of Adelaide

testing.