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From: narayan@aravali.everest.tandem.com (Pankaj Narayan)
Subject: For people near Toronto....
Reply-To: narayan@aravali.everest.tandem.com (Pankaj Narayan)
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Cupertino CA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:00:19 GMT

People in Buffalo etc who are in driving distance of Toronto can take advantage
of the cheaper fares airlines have for international flights from there. Typically,
the fare will be the same, ( say, US$1000 and CAN$1000) but you save due to the
currency conversion rate.

This is what I was told by friends in Buffalo, and may not hold for a lot of
fares. But worth checking out before your next long flight.

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From: cs921022@ariel.yorku.ca (MING HE)
Subject: Cancel an article?
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 05:29:36 GMT

Well, I post one test post and one test follow up in the distribution of my
institution.  But I can't use capital 'C' to cancel the two articles.

The 'C' sometimes works.

My system is Unix/Ultrix.  The command is '% rn'.

Ming
From: veitch@vxcrna.cern.ch (Liz Veitch)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Courier Flights
Keywords: courier, Europe
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:13:00 GMT
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41



Does anyone have any information about courier flights within Europe?

If you do use one of these flights, how do you know that the package
you are required to carry doesn't contain nasties (drugs, Libyan bombs,
etc) ?

Liz 
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: schulenb@harlie.ics.uci.edu (David Schulenburg)
Subject: AMEX student coupons
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:53:55 GMT
Distribution: usa

two of the restrictions on these vouchers are:

6 day max say
saturday overnight required (i believe)

what this implies is no sunday or monday departures.
since the $189 fare is cheaper than a oneway fare,
has anyone tried to book a round-trip flight and use
only the return portion of the ticket?  is this OK
to do?  what are the potential problems involved with
doing this kind of thing?  is the return flight
automatically cancelled if the first leg is "missed"?
any help you can give would be appreciated.  please
email as i don't normally read this group.  thanks,

david

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From: steve@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com (Steve DeJarnett)
Subject: Re: Frequent Fliers
Organization: IBM PS Programming, Palo Alto
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 23:39:35 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.224712.24503@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen) writes:
> American has deals with: British Airways, Cathay Pacific, Quantas,
> Singapore and TWA (do they still fly?).  I was told that they also have
> an arangement with Lufthansa, but I can't find that listed in the 
> booklet that I have.  You need 20,000 miles for a free continental
> ticket by the way.

	The British Airways connection is ending at the end of April, I believe.
I suspect this is because American and BA are now direct competitors in the 
US<->British market, but that's just a guess.

	The good thing about the TWA link is that use can specify which airline
FF program the mileage gets credited to (either TWA's or AA's).  Thus, if you
fly on TWA you can have the miles credited to your AAdvantage account.  If TWA
goes under, you still have useful mileage.

	I personally prefer American, but I'm a member of United and TWA as
well.  Basically, join whatever you fly.  It can't hurt (other than getting a
little extra junk mail)...

	Steve

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From: jpy@mendelssohn.cs.columbia.edu (John P Yu)
Subject: Re: More about BUMPS
Organization: Columbia University
	<1992Apr13.154231.8966@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:33:40 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.154231.8966@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> jacko@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Jacko) writes:

>  Just FYI, Texas Air (parent of CO and EA) purchased People Express Inc in 
>  December 1986.  People Express, New York Air, and perhaps the remains of
>  Denver-based Frontier Airlines (owned by PE) were merged into Continental
>  in February of 1987.  As part of the merger, PE operations were moved from
>  the North terminal at Newark to Terminal B, joining all other CO/EA ops there.
>  For a long time (maybe 1 year thereafter) People Express still legally existed 
>  and was "marketed" under the CO logo.  (Because of FAA regs requiring PE planes,
>  crew, manuals, etc. to be "recertificated", whatever that means).  Even today
>  you can go out to EWR and see some CO 727's in the old PE beige livery with
>  just the tail, hull stripe, and company name changed to Continental.  The old
>  737's would be the same way except they all had to have the paint stripped off
>  them for inspection after the Aloha accident.

>  Nowadays Continental is a pretty good airline, certainly no worse than United
>  or US Air.

>  Jacko.

   I believe Continental occupies Terminal C at Newark.

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From: slybz@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Chicago to London/Paris to Chicago 
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:01:30 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <WELCH.92Apr8125857@nervous.cis.ohio-state.edu>, welch@nervous.cis.ohio-state.edu (Arun Welch) writes:
> In article <1992Apr8.143540.5125@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> gmcguffi@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Graeme/Guff) writes:
> 
>    My wife and I are thinking about going to Europe for a couple of
>    weeks in July and August.
>    Does anyone have any suggestions on the cheapest way(s) to do
>    this?
> 
Another thing you can ask about are student standby fares.  They are generally
the cheapest way, but have a few restrictions.  The most bothersome is that you 
can only reserve a place on a flight 3 days before you leave.  If you are in
the heart of tourist season this can be quite difficult.  Also, to come back,
you can start trying 3 days before you want to come back and hope you get a
seat.

My brother and I went to Madrid this way.  Leaving was no problem, but getting
back was a little bit difficult though we lucked out.  We ended up going to the
airport on a Monday because the travel agency told us we'd have a much better
chance on Monday than the rest of the week period.  But, everything was booked,
so we got put on a waiting list.  We both ended up getting on the flight home,
but only after people already booked accepted money from the airline (TWA) to
stay and wait for another flight.

If you're flexible, this works just fine though.

Tanya Olsen
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: gl1@cec2.wustl.edu (Greg Lyon)
Subject: Re: More about BUMPS
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 21:12:57 GMT

    Being a college student who likes to travel, I usually try to get bumped
as much as possible.  From experiences on three airlines and their bumping
procedure, I have to say that American works better than USAir or Northwest.

    American offers travel vouchers in exchange for being bumped.  The vouchers
are usually offered in the amount of $ 300, but it varies depending on how
overbooked the flight is and the location, date, time, etc.  The vouchers also
have an added benefit in that with tickets you "purchase" with them, you do
not have to pay tax, so you really get an extra 10 % bonus on the value of the
voucher.

    I've had two quite interesting experiences with bumping and AA.  First
was on a flight LGA-ORD-STL.  A flight before mine from LGA to ORD had been
cancelled, and the flight I was on was overbooked by ~20 people.  So, for a 
four hour delay, I received $ 750 in credit from AA.  Not bad considering that
the roundtrip ticket only cost $ 251.

    Second was on a STL-DFW-SEA flight this past December, the week before 
Christmas.  The DFW-SEA flight was overbooked, I got bumped, received $ 400
in credit and a ticket on the next (and last) flight of the day.  Well, I 
ended up getting bumped off that flight too, received another $ 250, a 
hotel room for the night at the DFW Hyatt Regency, and free breakfast.  On 
top of it all, I didn't have to arrive at SEA at 2:00 AM !

Greg
From: hs@cns.umist.ac.uk (Harold Somers)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Short flights (was: Long Flights.)
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:35:06 GMT
Organization: UMIST, Manchester, England.

What about short flights. Is the San Francisco - Oakland run still going?
From: levinson@garnet.berkeley.edu (Ronnen Levinson)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: AMEX coupons - how transferrable are they?
Summary: It's a crapshoot.
Date: 7 Apr 92 06:29:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Apr7.020013.27660@u.washington.edu> treon@milton.u.washington.edu (Treon Verdery) writes:
>well, I got the $189 coupons from AMEX.  They have my name written
>on them.  My question is, can I somehow buy a ticket for my girlfriend
>with one of them so that we can go the same place for the same price?
>
>Note: the AMEX travel certificate says, "no", but I would be very interested
>in people who have managed to do this anyway.  Is it really a problem?
>
>With both "treon"s travelling on the same plane at the same time, will
>anyone get 'confused'?
>
>-thanks
>
>...and what happens if we get caught??
>
>Post or Email.  Posting would probably be ideal, I'm sure dozens,
>if not hundreds, are wondering the same thing.

It's very chancy.  My mom, whose name is Patricia, used one of her
AMEX coupons to get me ticket issued under the name "Mr. Pat
Levinson."  (Don't count on getting a sex-changed ticket.)  I flew
from Albany, NY to San Francisco without a problem because the ticket
agent in Albany was too busy to ask me for ID.  (My name is Ronnen,
and I'm a guy.)  On the way back from San Francisco, however, the
ticket agent had plenty of time.  Well, I couldn't prove that I was
Mr. Pat Levinson, and the next thing I knew I was shelling out around
$200 to buy a one-way ticket home.

Moral of the story: they mean it when they say "not transferrable."
Your girlfriend may need a fake ID and an extra ticket to Sweden to
get a sex-change operation.
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: rubin@watson.ibm.com (Bill Rubin)
Subject: Re: AA's new fare
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:05:49 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In  <1992Apr14.055143.20236@sfu.ca>  praim@connext.ucs.sfu.ca (Praim Sankar) writes:
> maybe I am confused. So kindly explain to me why is it that when
> (prior to April 13) I booked for 4 tickets for 3 adults, 1 teenager
> and 1 ten year  old, the 10 yr. old's fare is always at least a
> a 25-30% cheaper. No discounts for kids?
> I sure remember the AA agent telling me at the Van. airport
> yesterday that they eliminated the "seniors and children's discount".

According to your initial nte, you were buying SEA-POS tickets. Since POS
seems to be Trinidad/Tobago (according to my OAG), I suspect that it does
not follow the same rules as the US fares, and I am surprised that it
changed as part of last week's announcement.

> As a matter fact the reason I paid my fare on April 12 was so that
> the adults could get the New lower rate and the child  could get the OLD
> lower rate. The agent at the counter quoted 4 fares at $734 until I
> pointed one was a child. He then said it was $546. Seems to me that it
> has to be some kind of a discount.

What is your fare code?  Is it the absolute cheapest that was available on
that route?  In any event, since it is a pseudo-Internation fare, different
regulations may apply.  I can tell you that in the US, child discounts did
not apply to the "super saver" types of fares.

> It is my understanding that AA eliminated the 7/21 day advance purchase,
> discounted the "full coach" fare to approx. what the advance purchase
> used to be. So businessmen etc. who must travel at short notice can
> get the benefit of a lower fare formerly available in 7/21.

This is also somewhat untrue.  The 7/21 day advance purchase fares were
replaced by 7/30 day advance and in theory were lowered.  Unfortunately,
the standard sale prices were eliminated, leaving you with generally higher
prices than you had before if you qualified for such fares.

-- Bill rubin@watson.ibm.com
From: rubin@watson.ibm.com (Bill Rubin)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: AA's new fare
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:54:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: watson.1992Apr13.165440.27853
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM

In <help.703041745@sfu.ca> help@beaufort.sfu.ca (Help Desk) writes:
> American Airline new fare structure eliminates both
> children and senior's discount. They will now pay full
> adult fare. The adult fare from SEA-POS was $794 and the
> child's fare was about $546. After April 13 these fares
> will be $734. A $40 drop for the adult and a $188 increase
> in th child's fare.  Certainly theres no big fare drop.
> I don't think children under 12 will be flying AA
> in the future.

I think you're confused about this.  Yes, the new "full fare" will be $734
(I am assuming this is the full fare).  But how many children do you know
who fly at anything other than the 7/21 day advance purchase fares, and
those have never had discounts for kids.

On the other hand, it is true that the 21 day advance fares went up
compared to what the current "super saver" fares were.

-- Bill rubin@watson.ibm.com
From: edw@sequent.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Continental Airlines
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:15:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Apr8.011521.9820
Organization: Orygun Society For HUman Rustabillity Assessment

In article <1992Apr7.044408.16043@cs.ucla.edu> tj@kona.cs.ucla.edu (Tom Johnson) writes:
%What's the current fiscal status of Continental?  Are they considered
%prime candidates for bankruptcy?
%
%I ask because I just discovered that for a MKE->LAX roundtrip flight,
%booked 30 days in advance, Easy-Sabre quotes a fare of only $149.  The
%next lowest is $392, on NW, Delta, etc....Any idea why Continental is
%so low in comparison? 
Could be the horse crap cabin service.
Never again.
Ed
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From: horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne)
Subject: Re: Flights Through Hell (was Welcome/etc.)
Organization: Computer "Science" Dept, Yale University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:05:05 GMT

In article <MARY.92Apr8085812@martinique.Cayman.COM>, mary@Cayman.COM (Mary Malmros) writes:
<
<Anyway, about five minutes into the flight, my partner discovered
<(guess how) that someone had vomited into the seat pocket in front 
<of his seat and just left it there.
[...]
<Nobody in the crew was able
<to rectify this, even during the stopover in Anchorage, and my friend
<was unable to get another seat (none to be had).  Rather than get 
<separated from his party, he decided to tough it out, and spent the
<entire trip sitting scant inches from yesterday's huevos rancheros.

What to do:  Look for some label giving instructions on how to open the
emergency exit, rip it off, and tell a flight attendant that it's missing.
(This works in the US, at least.  In this case, your partner's flight
originated in New York.)  They're legally required to change 'planes.

(Note that this method might cause a great delay.  Still, I'd be willing
to take the chance.  All the way to Bangkok?  Heavens!)

					--Scott

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horne@cs.Yale.edu      SnailMail:  Box 7196 Yale Station, New Haven, CT   06520
203 436-1848                Residence:  Rm 1848 Silliman College, New Haven, CT
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From: jrp1175@summa.tamu.edu (PORTER, JAY ROGER)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Lufthansa offer of free RT ticket?
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:01:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <73195@netnews.upenn.edu>, porten@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jeffrey  Porten) writes...
>A friend told me that he saw an offer of a free RT on Lufthansa with the
>purchase of an economy or business ticket in a full-page ad in the NYT.
>Subsequent searching shows no evidence of this ever existing.  Anyone have
>more info?
> 
My travel agent told me about this deal.  If you buy one full price fare
(ie. Houston to Frankfort, Coach, $1500), then you will receive one R/T
ticket free.  Gimmick is that the first ticket has to be used before
June 1st (?).  The other on can be used later.

                                              Jay Porter, Texas A&M
                                                          University
From: percus@scws6.harvard.edu (Allon Percus)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Longest Segment (was Welcome/etc.)
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:44:51 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <rsodmINNbi7@agate.berkeley.edu> spanga@yocomputo (Span Grad Asst) writes:
>On the same subject, are there any nonstop flights from South
>America to Africa. Say Buenos Aires-Johannesburg, South Africa.

No, I believe they all make a stop somewhere about mid-way.


Seriously, though, I know there are Rio-Cape Town flights.

Allon Percus
From: autry@sgi.com (Larry Autry)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Caribbean Islands Airport Codes
Date: 12 Apr 92 14:22:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: odin.1992Apr12.142236.12765
Organization: Silicon Graphics, St. Louis, MO

In article <1992Apr12.100807.28216@cs.yale.edu> horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne) writes:
>In article <1992Apr12.043013.3812@odin.corp.sgi.com>, autry@sgi.com (Larry Autry) writes:
>[I, Scott Horne, write:]
><
><><	char prio;          /* WMO Priority of station */
><><	char wmo[6];        /* WMO Station Id if any */
><>
><>What is this?
><
><Apparently the c program data description of each element.
>
>I know *that*.  What I mean is:  What are "WMO Priority of station" and
>"WMO Station Id if any"?
>
><        Carribean Island Airport Codes
>
>While we're making corrections, I may as well point out that the word is
>spelt `Caribbean'.  :-)
>
><Grenada, W.I.                              GND
>          ^^^^
>
>For `Windward Islands', I hope, not `West Indies'.  :-)  I'll probably
>abbreviate it `GRN' in the "state" field.
>
><Fort De France, Martinique                 FDF
><Port au Prince, Haiti                      PAP
>
>Technically, the correct spellings of these are, respectively,
>`Fort-de-France' and `Port-au-Prince'.
>
>					--Scott
>
>-- 
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>horne@cs.Yale.edu      SnailMail:  Box 7196 Yale Station, New Haven, CT   06520
>203 436-1848                Residence:  Rm 1848 Silliman College, New Haven, CT
>ZANG4 HAN4 YI4 JIA1 / GONG4 JIAN4 ZHONG1HUA2!


--
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Silicon Graphics, St. Louis
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From: ae01045
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Air travel to Europe
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:12:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota CIS
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <as5tj6=@rpi.edu>, omlinc@cs.rpi.edu (Christian Omlin) writes...
>Hi !
> 
>I am looking for the best offer (cheap but reliable) for
>air travel to Europe. I would prefer to fly from NYC/Boston
>to Switzerland (round trip) in September.
> 
>If you know of any special discount offers (airline, travel
>agency, phone number), I would appreciate if you could reply
>to the e-mail address below.
> 
>Thanks.
> 
>Christian
> 
> 
To the best of my knowledge the cheapest airports to fly into Europe
are London, Amsterdam and Frankfurt. I think that comes from the fact
that those are among the busiest (at least London and FRA). Flying 
to Switzerland (mainly Zurich) is somewhat more expensive. If you are
from the more adventurous type, buy a ticket to FRA and try to hitchhike
along the A5 down to Switzerland!

Peter
Newsgroups: rec.travel,bit.listserv.travel-l,rec.travel.air,uk.misc
From: boardman@inmos.co.uk ()
Subject: London >>> N.Y.C. Courier Info?
Reply-To: boardman@inmos.co.uk (Richard Boardman)
Organization: INMOS Limited, Bristol, UK.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:09:10 GMT

I'm interested in taking a couple of courier flights to the
US - initiallly to New York, however I don't really know
where to start looking for info.

I've tried some travel agents but they don't seem too
interested. (low profit margin??)

Does anyone have any contact addresses for, or could anyone
supply such info?
I'd be very grateful for any details. (eg. is there an minimum
age requirement?).

Cheers!
Richard Boardman
boardman@inmos.co.uk
From: bahman@aeshq.UUCP (Bahman Motamed)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Tell me about Montreal...
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:38:02 GMT
Reply-To: bahman@aeshq.UUCP (Bahman Motamed)
Organization: AES Headquarters, Environment Canada, Toronto, Canada

In article <1992Apr9.150111.1233@apollo.hp.com> bigos_p@apollo.HP.COM (Patrick Bigos) writes:
>
>I'm thinking about going to Montreal the weekend of May 1-3.
>I will be driving there.  About how long will it take from
>Portsmouth, NH?  What are some things I MUST do and see?  
>Ever hear of any INEXPENSIVE thing to do or places to stay?
>
>Thank you so very much,
>
>Patrick
>
>E-Mail:  bigos_p@apollo.hp.com

There are lots of places that you can go and visit which I will try to 
catagorize it.

1-sites
  
  Old Montreal
  Mont-Royal park
  Olympic Stadium
  Ville Saint-Hellen

2-Disco & Bars

  Old Munich (st-Denis/Rue Rene Levesqe)
  L'Esprit (st-Catherin/De la Montagne)
  All the bars on Cresant st. and St-Denis
  
3-Restaurants

  Also all the Restaurants on St-Denis, Old Montreal, 

4-Hotels & Motels

  It all depends how close you want be to downtown (where the action is).
  There are couple motel near subway(metro) Henri-Bourrassa (the end of red line).

  I hope these info. are enough to get you going.
  Have Fun.
  Bahman.M
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