From: barnesm@vavau.Corp.Sun.COM (Mark Barnes)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Human sexuality
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:47:35 GMT
Reply-To: barnesm@vavau.Corp.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: vavau.corp.sun.com

In article 11531@spdcc.com, dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>In article <ku25jsINN1rf@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> barnesm@vavau.Corp.Sun.COM writes:
>>How is it decided what is and is not appropriate?  And who then shall be
>>granted the task of observing people and pointing out instances where they have
>>behaved inappropriately, and then have the authority to re-educate said
>>people to thereafter adhere to the standards of appropriate behavior.
>
>I wish you'd just bury this topic instead of burying yourself deeper
>and deeper.

No, actually, I am digging myself out, closer and closer to the surface.

>                    It's a stupid, moronic conceit that you can't just let
>this go.

Is this akin to the 'stupid, moronic conceit' that drives you to read
postings from people you know you disagree with on the given subject
just so you can complain about being offended and then express your
indignance?    Is this akin to the 'stupid, moronic conceit' that drives
you to insist that there is one and only one right view on any
subject---the one *you* have chosen to agree with?

How funny it is when those who try to stop behavior they have decided
is offensive would stop at nothing at a purposeful attempt to offend.
"Practice what you preach" and "Do unto others as you would have them
do unto you" have no meaning to these people.  Not that I'm offended,
mind you, but mildly amused.

Wait a second.....wait a second....I hear thunder rumbling....I think
almighty God....er....Steve is about to issue forth an edict.....

>Here's the answer: when you call someone "X" and they say, "I really
>would prefer that you not call me X", it is appropriate behavior to
>stop calling that person "X".  Such people have the "authority" to
>consider you a jerk if you don't, but insist on arguing about it
>instead.

You are right.  I apologize.  There is such a thing as one 'appropriate'
behavior.  I am obviously an uneducated heathen for not knowing
what this is.  No one ever handed me a copy of 'Steve Dyer Explains
Inherrent Truths About Life on Earth'.   Where can I get myself a copy?
I can't wait to read the chapter entitled 'The list of appropriate and
inappropriate behavior'.  Then I will be able to say 'I is ejucated' too!  :-)

I must have read the wrong book.  The one that says that homosexuality
is inappropriate behavior.  The one that  fails to say that telling other
people how to live their lives *is* appropriate behavior.

>Now give it up.

And submit to *your* censorship?  Hardly....

If you believe that I am going to live *my* life according to the
standards *you* have chosen to agree with then you are setting
yourself up for disappointment.

Go ahead, vent your spleen.  Call me names.  Refuse to discuss things
logically and rationally.  I hope you enjoy it.  It isn't going to 
affect *me* much.  I may respond to your reactive ravings, but
I'm not going to give *you* control over me or my perceptions
and thoughts.

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