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From: 10764860@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (PAUL WALSH)
Subject: Re: Acid activities (Vitamin C)
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 04:16:29 GMT

In article <1dsc1eINNdo3@agate.berkeley.edu> brash@ocf.berkeley.edu (Aaron Brashears) writes:
>From: brash@ocf.berkeley.edu (Aaron Brashears)
>Subject: Re: Acid activities (Vitamin C)
>Date: 12 Nov 1992 01:29:18 GMT
>In article <1992Nov11.051246.24969@u.washington.edu> lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) writes:
>>
>>Yes it does!  Don't you remember?  It neutralizes the strychnine!
>>
>
>One last time:
>
>   LSD HAS NO STRYCHNINE!
>
Can't you taste the dribble of sarcasm?

Paul.
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: [anonymous] SO's and drugs
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:43:28 GMT

twiggs_te@lrc.edu writes:
: 
: 	Simple solution:  Put the MDMA powder in her drink while she's not
: aware.  I've done this to several people, including a religious extremist, 
: and every one of them thanked me for it.  How could you be mad at someone
: for making you feel like that?  Unless, of course, it's bad stuff.  Just 
: test it first and make DAMN SURE it's richter powder.

If you did that to me, I would bust your ass into little pieces - then
feed you to the dogs. I would do that, regardless of how the drug made
me feel.

It is a major assault on a person to feed them a drug without their
permission. Anyone who does so should be locked up for a few years
to think about their act.

Bill
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 07:11:58 GMT

rda767f@nella8.cc.monash.edu.au (Mark Leighton) writes:
: 
: I hate to say this but you have your facts mixed up!!
: Those little cannisters contain Nitrogen Dioxide which is NO2. Nitrous
: Oxide is NO and is known as laughing gas, hence the high that is achieved.
: There is also Dinitrogen oxide N2O which is obtained when heating NO.
: Be warned!! N2O is highly poisonous ie LETHAL.

Nope. You are the person who is wrong.  N2O is laughing gas. NO2 and NO
are the poisonous gases.

The inhalation of 200 to 700 ppm (parts per million) of No may be fatal,
even after very short exposure. Sax (1975), 961-R.

NO2 or N2O4 - is one of the most insidious gases in terms of human
toxicity. Inflammation of the lungs may cause only slight pain, or
pass unnoticed, but the resulting edema several days later may cause
death. 100 ppm is dangerous even for short exposures, and 200 ppm may
be fatal. Merck Index (1968), 739-L.

My apologies to the rest of the group for posting actual references,
but this is too important to get wrong.

Mark - you should verify your information before posting.

Bill
From: michaeln@cs.uq.oz.au (Bunweasel)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:35:53 GMT
Reply-To: michaeln@cs.uq.oz.au
Organization: Department of Computer Science, The University of Queensland

In article 721066604@nella8.cc.monash.edu.au, rda767f@nella8.cc.monash.edu.au (Mark Leighton) writes:
>eastmer@yang.earlham.edu writes:

>>I don't know about where you live, but there is an import store very near
>>my house where you can get 24 one hit N2O cannisters for about 7 bucks.
>>with crackers and punch balloons right next to them.(for making whipped 
>>cream, of course |8) ) If you look like I do then they may ask for proof of
>>being over 18.  three free balloons with a package. I didn't see any warning
>>label.

>I hate to say this but you have your facts mixed up!!
                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Those little cannisters contain Nitrogen Dioxide which is NO2. Nitrous
>Oxide is NO and is known as laughing gas, hence the high that is achieved.
>There is also Dinitrogen oxide N2O which is obtained when heating NO.
>Be warned!! N2O is highly poisonous ie LETHAL.

Why are there so many wallys in the world?

And why this side of the world in particular?

(Sad, isn't it?)

-Bunweasel
From: v055rylr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amy Pascale)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: t-shirt request
Keywords: trix rabbit
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:27:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


HELP!!!!!!!!!!

hi i have been searching for this t-shirt for about 2 1/2 yrs. now,
and i've only seen it on 2 people.

on the front top corner is the trix rabbit holding a magic mushroom.

on the back is a big illustration of the trix rabbit amidst many magic
mushrooms (how alliterative!)

and on the bottom it says:
	
	"silly rabbit, trix are for kids"



any help is greatly appreciated...



keep smilin'
amygurl


v055rylr@ubvms  
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From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: sad sad very sad
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:43:40 GMT

mcsdc1rs@dct.ac.uk writes:
: 
: 
: its time for change
: its time for guarana
: 
: 
: 
: no drugs should be used for enjoyment
: if you take drugs there must be something missing in your life

I've had to think about this one a bit.  I think this is right.  I find
normal conciousness boring as a steady diet and states induced by
alterants (I hate the word drugs) to be occasionally interesting.  What
is missing in my life is contentment with constantly normal
conciousness and I can't think of anything that might be added to my
life that would change that.  I wish that mcsdc1rs, if he/she is
serious would elaborate on what else might be missing.  An awful lot of
people really do believe this and I honestly would like to hear the
rationale.  Let's grant the author flame immunity to hear his/her
side.

Bob

-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts


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From: mcsdc1rs@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: sad sad very sad
Date: 11 Nov 92 10:50:42 +0100
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology



its time for change
its time for guarana



no drugs should be used for enjoyment
if you take drugs there must be something missing in your life
From: greg@antizen.EBay.Sun.COM
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: DMSO as carrier?
Date: 6 Nov 92 00:17:19 GMT
Reply-To: greg@antizen.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: antizen.ebay.sun.com

>I remember hearing that DMSO will penetrate the skin, carrying any dissolved
>chemicals with it.  Would it be possible for drugs generally injected to be
>administered this way?  

Yes, You could do this. In fact, this is how most of the `dosings` are carried
out at Greatful Dead shows (very uncool and politically incorrect). DMSO and
LSD is a spray bottle and presto.

However, keep in mind that one of the dangers of DMSO use is that we carry
many toxins in our skin, which is our first line of defense against both
toxins, bacteria and viruses. Think twice before using DMSO recreationally
as it may carry unforseen risks.

Greg Dilley

WEMT, Rock Medicine/Haight Ashbury Free Medical Clinic
From: RR04@bunny.gte.com (Rob Robertson)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Essiac: Nature's Cure for Cancer
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:03:04 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories


  Recently I was given a photocopy of an article which appeared in a 
magazine called _Wildfire_ (Wildfire Vol. 6 No.1) entitled "Essiac: 
Nature's Cure for Cancer, An Interview with DR. GARY L. GLUM by Elisabeth 
Robinson. The following is the introduction to the question-and-answer 
article.

                        Introduction

  Rene Caisse was a nurse living in Canada who for a period of almost 
sixty years treated hundreds of people with an herbal remedy she called 
Essiac. She discovered this remedy through a patient in the hospital where 
she worked who had been cured of cancer. The patient had used an herbal 
remedy given her by an Ojibway herbalist.
  
Rene left the hospital in 1922 at age 33, went to Bracebridge, Ontario, 
Canada where she began administering Essiac to all who came to her. The 
majority of those whom she treated came on referral with letters from 
their physicians certifying they had incurable or terminal forms of cancer 
and that they had been given up by the medical profession as untreatable.
 
 Rene began gathering the plants and preparing the herbal remedy herself 
in her own kitchen, in a building lent her for her patients. She 
administered Essiac both orally and by injection. In cases where there was 
severe damage to life support organs, her patients died- but they lived 
far longer than the medical profession had predicted, and, more 
significantly, they lived free of pain. Still others, listed as hopeless 
and terminal, but without severe damage to life support organs, were cured 
and living 35-45 years (many are still living).
  
So startling was the effectiveness of this simple herbal remedy, it could 
not be ignored, and the Canadian Ministry of Health and Welfare and the 
Parliament became involved. Friends, former patients, and grateful 
families petitioned Canadian officialdom for Rene Caisse's right to 
administer the remedy to anyone who asked for it without the threat of 
interference from authorities. Fifty-five thousand signatures were 
collected on the petition. In 1938, Essiac came within three votes of 
being legalized by the Ontario government as a remedy for terminal cancer 
patients.

  The story of Rene Caisse, her life, her work, and the effectiveness of 
the remedy she named Essiac, is told in a book Sun Bear received, _Calling 
of an Angel_ by Dr. Gary L. Glum of Los Angeles.

*************************************

... the article continues with Dr. Glum painting a picture of Essiac as a 
simple and extremely effective herbal medication which has been supressed 
by a greedy, cynical and immoral medical establishment.

If anyone knows anything about this medicine, magazine, Dr. Glum, Rene 
Caisse, ANYTHING AT ALL, please Email me immediately as time is of the 
essence right now.

Thanks people,
                   Rob


Rob Robertson
GTE Laboratories          (617)466-4144 vox
40 Sylvan Rd.                (617)890-9320 fax
Waltham, Mass. 02254
"There is nothing new under the sun..."
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From: rint69@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (rintoul bradley e)
Subject: Snow Bong! (was Bong ideas)
Summary: I
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:27:53 GMT
Keywords: hope

I missed the original post and I hope I'm 
not wasting your time...

(Not a real hard one to think of but...)
try packin' the bong wit snow.

It will lead to a cool buzz
From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.folklore.urban\
Organization: gators 'r us
Subject: Re: Junkies/crack addicts don't try to share the fun?
	<1992Nov5.205600.23802@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 08:18:30 -0400

In <1992Nov5.205600.23802@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>, bill nelson writes:
>
>Just about anyone, including a 6 year old kid, should be able to figure
>out how to pour gasoline over some raisins. It is a rather trivial
>challenge.


and i thought mixing lard and sugar was easy.
-- 
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
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From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: Intro to Extasy
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 05:44:20 GMT

ulma@coli.uni-sb.de (Ulrich Mayring) writes:
>>Ulrich, it doesn't matter whether we are talking aspirin or heroin.  One
>>does not dose.  If he didn't realize *that* then the harsh, pugnacious
>>responses should help with that realization.
>
>Well, if you do not dose, then how about putting vinegar in someone's food? 
>Where would you draw the line? Of course dosing someone with whatever substance
>is not a nice thing to do and I wouldn't do or even recommend it. But ignorance
>is hard to overcome, at least for me, and I think some others on the net have
>this problem without knowing it. Double ignorance. Anyways, I think differing
>views on this subject (such as mine) are hopefully not considered uncivilised,
>since the only topic we disagree about is the harshness of the response.
>Maybe I'm a nicer guy than you, and maybe you are less boring than I :-)

Re:  The harshness of the response...

"ooops, looks like she was taking a MAOI...  call the coroner..."

-or-

"I wouldn't have given you it if I knew you were pregnant!" 

I think the responses were appropriate...  sympathomimetics with unknown
teratogenicity are not things to dose others with.

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From: belboz@frc2.frc.ri.cmu.edu (Barry Brumitt)
Subject: Re: [anonymous] Fentanyl
Reply-To: belboz@frc2.frc.ri.cmu.edu (Barry  Brumitt)
Organization: Field Robotics Center, CMU
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:56:48 GMT

>  I don't know exactly if there is a banzyl fentanyl, but the fatc that
> it's not controlled may be because it is not as _interesting_ as fentanyl.
Ah ha! Fentanyl!

That's how it's spelled! I couldn't recall given my already-demerolled
system... 

They gave me a shot of that introvenously into each arm before knocking
me out for surgery. The anethediologist said it would make me feel loopy. She
was quite right!

The entire universe was warm and fuzzy. Felt excellent and comfortable, even
though I was terrified of being cut open! The shattered ankle felt like it
wasn 't even there.

Being, other than the morphine high the next day, the only experience with
narcotics I've had, (Oh, codine in small quantities doesn't count!) it was
understandable why people go out of their way to get this stuff. In summary,
it was *extremely* pleasant!

Barry
Just say Maybe. I'll *think* about it.






--
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From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: Acid activities (Vitamin C)
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 14:14:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.051246.24969@u.washington.edu> lamontg@stein.u.wash
ngton.edu (Lamont Granquist) writes:
>lemay@netcom.com (Laura Lemay) writes:
>>Ahem. Might I point out the obvious....
>>
>>Perhaps because you *expect* vitamin C to have a certain effect on you
>>while tripping -- be it to kill a trip, enhance a trip, make a trip
>>green, or whatever -- thats what actually happens?  Perhaps the
>>vitamin C has nothing to do with it?
>
>Yes it does!  Don't you remember?  It neutralizes the strychnine!
>
>>I have more than enough email "friends."  I am busy for
>>dinner.  I won't talk dirty to you.  Please do not
>>send me email on any of these topics.
>
>Breakfast then?
>


 All this quabbling over Vitamin C... Sheesh! I
 I think that it might be very possible for Vitamin C to modulate a trip
in some way positive. Vitamin does have positive effects on the nervous
system (Vitamin C that is), as do other vitamins such as B's (especially
thiamin disulfide). What is really being argued about and it's just not
being realised is that we don't really KNOW how these effects are
manifested. Because we don't know doesn't mean it's not necessarilly
happening. It warrants study...

St. Anthony

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         |   \ |  || Ph     Laszt uns're Schaedel vom Pilzbewuchs befreien!
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From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: Acid activities
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:15:12 GMT

itzenhui@cs.uwp.edu (Steve Itzenhuiser) writes:
: This may be old hat to some, though others may find it fun.
: 
: To get your trip started off right, drink some orange juice or other
: citric acid.  It kicks the Acid into your system.  That is unless this is
: a old wive's tale--like my mom ever tried Acid.
: 

You never know about the placebo effect but I have felt that every time
I have remembered to take a gram of vitamin C a couple of hours in
advance I have had more intense trips.  Also more enjoyable.  But this
could be totally in my head. :-)

Bob
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

        "One can learn to be alone, even enjoy it but let intimacy
         break that solitude, even briefly, and he must start all
         over again."

                                                     Elia Kazan


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From: jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
Subject: Re: Junkies/crack addicts don't try to share the fun?
Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics, Cambridge, MA
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 20:13:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.205600.23802@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:

>Certainly, it is plausible that some asshole may have tainted some candy.
>It is also plausible that terrorists are sneaking thousands of H-bombs
>into all the cities of the Western World - where they will be detonated
>on some chosen date. Just because it is plausible does not improve the
>likelihood of someone doing something.

Gee, if you think these are even close in their "plausibility" I can see
why you don't trust your sense of plausibility.


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From: bruceg@Cadence.COM (Bruce Gustifson)
Subject: Re: Help with farming
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 23:08:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.181417.10940@u.washington.edu> bigstar@hardy.u.washington.edu (J Paschel) writes:
>gaspar@inf.ethz.ch (gaspo) writes:
>
>>In article <1dch84INNevr@network.ucsd.edu> mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen) writes:
>A few notes....What was mentioned above is very true...they need a lot of
>soil to do well...I always reccomend 5-7 gallon buckets for each
>individual plant.
>
>Second, you don't mention what kind of lights are being used. There
>several points worth mentioning about lights.
>
>1) During vegetative growth, lights should be left on 24 hours a day. Period.
   Wrong! It will do no harm to leave them on for 24 hrs a day, but after 18 hrs
 a point of diminishing return occurs. In other words, after 18 hrs a day your
 wasting money (and energy, if thats a concern).
>
>2) If you are using flourescents, they need to be on top of the plants at
>all times...ideally they should be touching the tips of the plant.  Also,
>you should have roughly 4 3-foot tubes per plant.
  Almost right, but I found that if you let the tips touch for too long that
it might burn a little.
>
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Junkies/crack addicts don't try to share the fun?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 06:41:35 GMT

jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez) writes:
: >
: >I made no judgement about the relative likelihood of the two events. I was
: >simply making a point. Just because something is plausible does not mean
: >that it has occurred - regardless of how nasty some specimens of humanity
: >happen to be.
: 
: Just in case there's any doubt, I agree with your second sentence.  I
: think we have different approaches about how to deal with a report of a
: plausible occurence, though.  Oh well.

Possibly. I include past history in my evaluations. They have taught me
to approach such reports with great scepticism - until there is trustworthy
substantiation. So far, there has been none. I am still waiting for further
reports on the latest couple of reported incidents.

Bill
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From: caseypa@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (P. A. Casey)
Subject: Re: Guarana
Organization: Electrical Engineering, University of Canterbury, New Zealand
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:26:28 GMT
From: honig@dixie.ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Subject: Re: SEX on Acid
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Reply-To: honig@ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Organization: UC Disneyland, in the Kingdom of Bren
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:05:29 GMT

 ck041@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kevin Currie) writes:
>
>	I guess this is the right group for this... the only other
>possibilites would be alt.sex but anyways...
>
>	Has anybody had much experience with sex on acid??  For the
>past couple of weekends my girlfriend and I have been experimenting.  The
>first weekend it was just INCREDIBLE, I tell ya, just a simple touch
>feels sooooo good.... Anyways, back to the point..
>	Last weekend however it was going particularly great, until I
>started *fiddling* around with her (for lack of a better public word)
>and she started getting off like crazy.
>	Anyways, after spurting much fluid on my bed, she started freaking
>out because she said she couldn't move!!  Her legs and arms seemed
>paralyzed, she was REALLY scared.  I think I should add that we weren't
> *REALLY* tripping at this point, but were still very high.
>	This was only her 2nd time on acid as well, so I thought she was
>just freaking out.  After talking to her and pinching her legs (without
>her seeing) I found that she was quite well within her mind and not too
>badly gone.  Anyways, after lying and reassuring her that this was normal
>when having sex on acid, her feeling came back about 45 - 50 minutes later.
>  I lied because I didn't want her to think something was physically wrong
>with her- I thought she might start to freak if I said that...
>
>	What I think happened is that she got so "excited" that her
>brain must have released some kind of chemical into her blood that would
>numb her for a while.
>
>	Any comments??
>
>--
>"Chalk up another soul that's lost, |       Kevin Currie
> Calculate the social cost,         |   Ottawa,Ontario,Canada
> You know what's not inside of me,  | ck041@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
> Raging mad insanity!!"  - S.T.     |      ag816@yfn.ysu.edu


I suggest you post to the alt.sex or whatever groups, perhaps omitting
the part about the pharmaceuticals.  Because this sounds more like an
example of an extreme sexual state than one particularly related
to the acid; though its likely that the acid helped her lose control
a bit more.

Not that readers here won't have opinions about the range of human
sexual experience...

--
David Honig
"To get to the new paradigm, you don't just think about what it would be
like.  You put down stakes and try to start living in it."  Marc Weiser,
head of Comp Sci Lab, Xerox PARC, as reported in Advanced Imaging  Aug 92
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From: mtymp15@staff.tc.umn.edu (David Hutton)
Subject: yet another synthesis requested
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 04:45:29 GMT

The thought has often entered my mind to extract and purify THC into its purest
state - a beautiful white crystalline powder.

Although alcohol will dissolve the THC from the plant, how can one get the THC
out of the alcohol without converting any THC into CBDs?



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