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From: TonyM
Subject: On the shelves!
Organization: NT
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:49:15 GMT

I saw Dirty Larry and Dracula on the shelves of EB this past weekend in
Raleigh, NC.  Believe that!  A couple of new titles appear on the last weekend
prior to Christmas!  Just thought you might like to know.


Tony

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From: nugget@genesis.nred.ma.us (Ralph Barbagallo)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx,rec.games.video
Subject: Re: Babbages (Was Re: Dracula the Undead woes...)
Date: 1 Jan 93 03:56:07 GMT
Organization: Genesis Public Access Minix  +1 508 664 0149


 Babbages' prices are awful!  I went in there to buy some old Turbo CDs and
Monster Lair was $54.95... that game is what, 3 years old?  I got Fighting
Street for only $33 or so at WaldenSoftware and it was released around the
same time...  

------
  Ralph A. Barbagallo III
  nugget@genesis.nred.ma.us
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: positron@engin.umich.edu (Jonathan Scott Haas)
Subject: Re: Strategy games on Lynx/Gamegear
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 19:01:45 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

On rec.games.video, rjung@aludra.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung) writes:
>
>More RPG titles are
>expected to be released in 1993, most notably DAEMONSGATE, EYE OF THE BEHOLDER
>(translations of the computer games), and THE GUARDIANS: STORM OVER DORIA (an
>original RPG for 1-4 players). 

Deliberate misinformation, R.J.? You? Oh, my faith is shattered :)

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From: tazzzzz@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Kevin Dangoor)
Subject: Re: Dracula the Undead woes...
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:57:04 GMT

The idea of putting a graphical adventure on a handheld with such a small
capacity limit is just plain stupid. There is nowhere near enough room
to store very many screens, even given the Lynx's small resolution requirements.

Eye of the Beholder is another matter entirely. The graphics for each room you
are in in EotB are not original for that room but derived from other graphics.
This saves on lots of space and will allow for a much bigger dungeon area.
Sure, it's somewhat repetitive, but it is on the PC as well. It's still fun.

As for Guardians (just to jump back a couple threads), I actually played a
small segment of it back at CES last May. Why oh why would the drop a game
that (by the end of the year) must have been almost entirely complete? It's
not even the same style of game as EotB. Plus, I would bet that many people
would buy BOTH! Ugh.

...Kev

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From: a74k110@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (Chris Peterson)
Subject: Need more help with Shadow of the Beast
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 21:55:44 GMT
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   Ok, I go into the tree entrance, go through the level and kill the big
green dragon at the end of the level. Then I go to the next level, finally get
to the end of the level, only to face this red monster that I just can't seem
to kill.  I use my left over supply of crystal ball weapon, doesn't work, I
can't get close enough to punch it or duck because of the fireballs. How do
you kill this thing?  The only item I couldn't get on this level is what looks
like an extra life thing surrounded by electricity ( I can't figure out how
to get that either), I'm assuming that it's supposed to be a dead end.  Also,
what exactly is the purpose of the gear since you have to go back to use it
to drop the bridge? I'm assuming that's a dead end too.  Man, I'v been tearing
my hair out for two days trying to get past this red monster, I'm either very
slow, or this game is pretty damn difficult.

Thanks for any help,
  Chris
From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Lynx - I got mine!!!!!
Date: 29 Dec 1992 18:09:13 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, bbishop@crusader.torolab.ibm.com () says:

>
>thumbs up for fun.  I am having a hardware/software problem though that I need
>help with.  It seems that since I got my Lynx... When I go to find it, it is
>usually turned on.. Now, the only thing I can think of is that it is being
>turned on because my wife insists on playing it and it would be pretty stupid
>to have a Lynx in your hands, staring at the screen and not have it on...

Are you saying that someone leaves it on?

Or are you saying it is on because your wife is playing with it?

>
>Anyway, how do I combat this problem... I can't play my Lynx when I want to 
>because my wife insists on playing the Surfing Game from California Games?

I have a FANTASTIC solution for you!!!

Atari is selling the Lynx for $79.95. and they have a free game deal
where if you buy some assorted nutes, you can get a free game.

Why don't you just get another Lynx?

You and your wife then can comlink in more ways than one!

It works for me! :)

> 
>Has anyone else had this problem?  


No, like I said, I just ask women if they want to link-up and I usually
get hit in the face, but sometimes they agree, and then see I'm
talking about the Lynx...

> 
>Oh, and I went to T'R'U to try to get Warbirds.. They were out.. I guess Ill
>have to wait... They were also out of Lynx's and a number of games (this being
>right after Christmas...) I was thinking that this was good because it must
>mean that people are buying it, not just that T'R'U happens to have some dead
>space to fill.  Anyway... I got Checkered Flag instead (another one that has
>the same hardware problem as above)... Rampart was a gift from a friend and 
>and Robotron was a gift from my wife... I made out pretty good... I *NEED*
>Warbirds though...

If you had another Lynx, it would be even better!

WRITE Toys'R'Us.  Everyone seems to be having this problem.

Len
>
>I have a Lynx... Im happy.
> 
>Brad
>
>

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From: ah292@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert Krynak)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Guardians: Storm Over Doria
Date: 26 Dec 1992 05:18:57 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ah292@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert Krynak)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, mdc@crash.cts.com (Milo D. Cooper) says:

>	A significant number of the Telegames team, including the CEO, now
>work for us here at Park Place Productions.  _Guardians_, according to one
>of Telegames' artists (who currently works under myself), was cancelled
>when the team got a look at _Eye of the Beholder_.  So _Guardians_ won't
>be released, but _Eye of_ will.
>
can't you guys finish Guardians: Storm Over Doria AND make Eye of the
Beholder?  I was looking forward to playing both games.
wasn't Guardians almost finished?
From: quadri@trident.usacs.rutgers.edu (Hasan M. Quadri)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Lynx: Batman Returns
Date: 22 Dec 92 08:02:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


I've had Batman Returns for quite a while now and I haven't been able
to make it to the end of level 2.  Apparently I'm doing something
wrong, what hints and tips would any of you suggest to make it to the
end of level 2?
From: dlk0ms9s@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Lynx - bad sign!
Date: 29 Dec 92 02:26:15 EST
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

In article <28DEC199203154402@mary.fordham.edu>, areid@mary.fordham.edu (Darin Reid) writes:
> 
> Not to be blunt myself, but...; how the hell do stores in other cities
> and states apply to me?  I bought my Lynx in New York, after I did
> every store that I saw it in dropped it (T"R"U, The Wiz, Software
> etc.), and the line disappeared from the E. Boutique catalog sent to
> my house.  You guys missed my point, I can find somewhere around 5
> games total where I live.  Do you expect me to go running around the 
> country to find games? Hell no!  I don't think NYC is the center of
> the Universe, but it is a hell of a big market for the Lynx to
> disappear from!  Like I said the TG-16 survives (at 69.95) and 
> it's career has not been stellar.

   Hey, I live in Jersey and was in NYC just last week and ran into three
places that HAD LYNX systems and games, includin TRU next to the A&S shopping
centre.  I also can go to at least 6 stores local to me in Jersey(Monmouth
County) that have LYNX's in stock all year.  Granted ONE Software Etc keeps
dropping it, then they bring it back... 

Mark Santora


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From: rjung@girtab.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx,rec.games.video
Subject: New Lynx games before XMas...
Date: 21 Dec 1992 18:43:26 -0800
Organization: Southern California Lynx Enthusiasts
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu

Well, whaddaya know? DIRTY LARRY: RENEGADE COP and DRACULA THE UNDEAD for the
Atari Lynx have just arrived on store shelves today. If you want a last-minute
new title to give to your favorite Lynxer (or yourself, even), bug your dealer
for a copy or two...

(Reviews in a day or two, naturally)

                                                --R.J.
                                                B-)

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--------------------------------------+------------------------------Lynx up!
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    chosen because you are the class clown and frankly, you're expendable."
From: da0g+@andrew.cmu.edu (David Apfelbaum)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Toys'R'Us
Date: 4 Jan 93 04:19:42 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Bletch.


I've actually given up on Toys'R'Us myself...

They advertise that they will "Match any Competitor's Sale Prices" -- If
you can bring in an add showing the competitors price.  Now places like
Electronics Boutique will commonly mark down their game prices without
advertising...  So why should I go through the trouble of dealing with
Toys'R'Us (who, for example, was selling Xybots for $39.99 a while back)
when I can walk over to Electronics Boutique and buy it for $23.99
without the hassle...


Anyway, my $0.02...

        -David.
From: allyn@sdd.hp.com (Allyn Fratkin)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Guardians: Storm Over Doria
Date: 25 Dec 1992 11:56:36 -0800
Organization: Hewlett Packard, San Diego Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsdlx.sdd.hp.com

> So _Guardians_ won't
> be released, but _Eye of_ will.

when?

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Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: welch@nervous.cis.ohio-state.edu (Arun Welch)
Subject: Re: Toys'R'Us and Lynx letter writing...
Originator: welch@nervous.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: OSU-LAIR
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 03:35:58 GMT

In article <1hqu7bINNh05@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys) writes:

   I think it is about time that we started a letter campaign to
   the executives at Toys'R'Us and tell them that there is a demand for
   the Lynx and game cards at their stores.

   I heard Toys'R'Us DROPPED the Lynx and does not plan to continue
   carrying it because of Atari's sales people messing things up.

Seems to me that if Atari keeps messing things up then We'B'Toys is
perfectly justified in dropping it.  If a distributor can't expect
their supplier to do things right then they've got no choice but to
drop the item, it's silly to keep supporting a product that they
perceive as being unsupported by the parent company. Sounds like the
right person to write to is Atari, not T'R'U.

...arun
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Lisp Systems Programmer, Lab for AI Research, Ohio State University
welch@cis.ohio-state.edu



Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: gilberts@cae.wisc.edu (Jeff Gilbertson)
Subject: Atari promotion
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Distribution: na
Date: 3 Jan 93 15:28:15 CST

Hey, is the Atari 1-800 promotion still going?  Does anybody have the number?
I'm considering becoming an elite Lynx owner!
From: ah292@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert Krynak)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Lynx - bad sign!
Date: 28 Dec 1992 06:52:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ah292@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert Krynak)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, rich@grebyn.com (Richard Lawrence) says:

>In article <27DEC199214041812@mary.fordham.edu> areid@mary.fordham.edu (Darin Reid) writes:
>>
>>Atari's ability to market and support their product.  I can't even
>>find games for it; Not in T"R"U, The Wiz, Kiddie City, Electronic
>>Boutique (mail order catalog dropped the Lynx too!), Kaybee can a Lynx
>>game be found.  The machine isn't even mentioned.  When the TG-16 is
>>displayed more prominently than the Lynx quittin' time has come...
>
>Again, not to be blunt, but you are not the center of the gaming
>universe. Here in the Washington DC area (not known for being the Mecca
>of the gaming world) I can buy Lynx games from Toys R Us (if I were to
>be so insane), Babbages (four different locations come to mind),
>Electronics Boutique (three new games in the last week), Software Etc,
>Walden Software, and a couple of non franchise locations.
>
there is a lot of Lynx games in the Toys R Us, Electronic Boutique,
Babbages, Software Etc., and Walden Sofware by me also (Cleveland area).

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From: thomase@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Thomas Esamie)
Subject: More SoB help needed
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 10:28:07 GMT

	Well, firstly I'd like to thank the guy who let me in on that
punch the bomb thing. Thanks.
	Now I have another problem, I come to the triple headed dragon thing
in the castle and there's nothing I can think of to kill him. I tried the
jump kick (someone said to use this on a monster at the end) and the items
in my inventory. I suspect, as was the case with the key to the well, that
I'm meant to use one of the items at my disposal in a certain spot. Any help
would be appreciated. Sorry to waste bandwidth for my ineptitude.
	Perhaps to salvage some substance I will let you know that Dirty Larry,
Dracula and Joust have all made it to our sunny shores. I was about to buy
Dracula, as I'm a horror fan and thought the concept was bound to be a winner.
Judging from a previous post I seem to have had luck by being in a rush with no
cash.

			Thomas the Tank Engine
			aka Algor

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From: kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman)
Subject: Babbages (Was Re: Dracula the Undead woes...)
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 00:40:26 GMT

In article <JCO.92Dec30010650@spchp12.BBN.COM> jco@spchp12.BBN.COM (John C. Orthoefer) writes:
>I'm nothing more than a statisfied customer at babbages.  But I just
>don't buy games anyplace but there, mainly because they will take back
>games with poor game play.

I never buy from Babbages any more. I used to be a big fan of theirs. They have
pretty good prices and I liked their return policy. Over the course of a year,
I purchased a lynx, a Genesis, a couple of dozen video carts and a new PC game
every other week or so. Then two weeks in a row I returned games to them, and
the second time, I thought I was going to be arrested. Ok, it wasn't that bad,
but they were giving me all sorts of heat about returning the game. The told
me that if I was going to be constantly returning stuff, they would have to cut
off my return privledges. I pointed out that I was a regular customer and 
rairly returned anything. They said that they didn't keep track of purchases,
only returns. They were really rude. Now I do all my game buying at Electronic
Boutique. As it turns out, their prices are better (they will match anyones
prices), and they never hassle me about returns.

Michael


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Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: bbishop@crusader.torolab.ibm.com ()
Subject: Lynx - I got mine!!!!!
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:10:27 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin


Well, Christmas morning came and the one thing I have been hounding my wife
about getting for the past 9 months showed up... A Lynx!  I like mine a lot!
For the past 9 months my wife has been telling me that it was stupid for
me to want a Lynx when I have the SNES, TG16/CD, and (my daughters) NES, but
I kept telling her, 'It has fun games.'  Now, I can understand specs but I 
dont care about them, all I care about is having fun.  The Lynx has got 2
thumbs up for fun.  I am having a hardware/software problem though that I need
help with.  It seems that since I got my Lynx... When I go to find it, it is
usually turned on.. Now, the only thing I can think of is that it is being
turned on because my wife insists on playing it and it would be pretty stupid
to have a Lynx in your hands, staring at the screen and not have it on...

Anyway, how do I combat this problem... I can't play my Lynx when I want to 
because my wife insists on playing the Surfing Game from California Games?
 
Has anyone else had this problem?  
 
Oh, and I went to T'R'U to try to get Warbirds.. They were out.. I guess Ill
have to wait... They were also out of Lynx's and a number of games (this being
right after Christmas...) I was thinking that this was good because it must
mean that people are buying it, not just that T'R'U happens to have some dead
space to fill.  Anyway... I got Checkered Flag instead (another one that has
the same hardware problem as above)... Rampart was a gift from a friend and 
and Robotron was a gift from my wife... I made out pretty good... I *NEED*
Warbirds though...

I have a Lynx... Im happy.
 
Brad
From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Toys'R'Us and Lynx letter writing...
Date: 30 Dec 1992 05:20:44 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, welch@nervous.cis.ohio-state.edu (Arun Welch) says:

>In article <1hqu7bINNh05@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys) writes:
>
>   I think it is about time that we started a letter campaign to
>   the executives at Toys'R'Us and tell them that there is a demand for
>   the Lynx and game cards at their stores.
>
>   I heard Toys'R'Us DROPPED the Lynx and does not plan to continue
>   carrying it because of Atari's sales people messing things up.
>
>Seems to me that if Atari keeps messing things up then We'B'Toys is
>perfectly justified in dropping it.  If a distributor can't expect
>their supplier to do things right then they've got no choice but to
>drop the item, it's silly to keep supporting a product that they
>perceive as being unsupported by the parent company. Sounds like the
>right person to write to is Atari, not T'R'U.
>
>...arun
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Arun Welch


Maybe you're right and maybe we'll write both of them.

So far, I've received quite a few e-mail messages from people that
believe that we should go for it.

I'm really surprised that so many people read this newsgroup in such
a short amount of time.

>
>

-- 
 
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: rich@grebyn.com (Richard Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Lynx - bad sign!
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 01:15:20 GMT

In article <27DEC199214041812@mary.fordham.edu> areid@mary.fordham.edu (Darin Reid) writes:
>
>
>I just got the Sunday edition of the New York (City) Daily News...
>in it there is a sale paper for Toys "R" Us, it has a huge section for
>game systems and their games, and guess what..., the Lynx is nowhere
>to be found!
>
>They advertise: Super Nintendo, Gameboy, Game Gear, Nintendo, Genesis,
>TurboExpress, and Turbografx-16, all of the Game Genies and hand held
>games from Tiger.  NO LYNX... I bought a system that has no
>following!!!

I'm sorry, but this is just silly. Ohmigod, there's no Lynx advert in
the Toys R Us section. Time to drop ballast! Jump ship! Haul in the
sails! Maybe, just maybe, they just decided not to run a promotion on
the Lynx. 

>I should have gotten a Game Gear!  Sorry Robert but I've lost faith in
                        ^^^^^^^^^
If you had, you'd be sitting at home right now with a significantly
poorer game pool, IMHO. I owned one, and got rid of it. It didn't serve
my portable gaming needs as well as the Lynx does.

>Atari's ability to market and support their product.  I can't even
>find games for it; Not in T"R"U, The Wiz, Kiddie City, Electronic
>Boutique (mail order catalog dropped the Lynx too!), Kaybee can a Lynx
>game be found.  The machine isn't even mentioned.  When the TG-16 is
>displayed more prominently than the Lynx quittin' time has come...

Again, not to be blunt, but you are not the center of the gaming
universe. Here in the Washington DC area (not known for being the Mecca
of the gaming world) I can buy Lynx games from Toys R Us (if I were to
be so insane), Babbages (four different locations come to mind),
Electronics Boutique (three new games in the last week), Software Etc,
Walden Software, and a couple of non franchise locations.

Let's even assume that your dire predications are correct and say,
tomorrow that Atari goes out of business (not something that would
surprise me, by the way). So what? Will that instantly detract from your
enjoyment of the games that currently exist? Will that invalidate
whatever fun you've had with the system so far? As far as I know, only
Robert and I are insane enough to own every game for the system. That
means that even if the Lynx world were to end tomorrow you'd have
something to look forward to.

There were droves of people of your mind years ago when I bought my
first Lynx. I still have it after all this time, it still goes with me
on my frequent flights, it's still lots of fun. It's too bad Atari is
owned by a family of grade A morons, but I'm not going to let that get
in my way of having fun.

>Just my view o' things...
>- Darin
>
-- 
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     '92 Seca II "Yuri"  CI$:71101,2272  GEnie:R.LAWRENCE14
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     Since then, they've been trying to correct their mistake.
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