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From: shivanan@nyquist.usc.edu (Mr. Shivanan Bhajekar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Good News for India
Date: 23 Dec 1992 14:37:21 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <1992Dec23.183043.2581@engage.pko.dec.com> thiyagarajan@mims.enet.dec.com (R. Thiyagarajan) writes:
>
>In article <1ha8ooINNmkv@aludra.usc.edu>, chviswan@aludra.usc.edu (Chandrasekar Viswanathan) writes...
>> 
>>Hi,
>>  There is an excellent News for India.The Olympic committee has decided to
>>reserve 70% of the gold medals for SC/ST.So India can finally win 70% of the
>>gold medals.This will help boosting our depleting gold reserves and also help 
>>us top the medals tally in olympics.
>> 
>
>What about BCs?

	They are included in the quota. But if VP has his way in the IOC
	the quota will be increased. By 2050 we should have about 99.9%
	of the medals reserved for  the BCs.

	The IOC will then be renamed IBCOC.

	i.e : International Olympic Committee = Indian Backward Class 
						Olympic Committee.

	Shivanand Bhajekar

>
>RT
From: dheeraj@cs.umd.edu (Dheeraj Sanghi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Info needed on Sponsoring a child.
Date: 24 Dec 92 20:42:51 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742


I need information on supporting a child in India. I understand that
there are several organizations based in US as well as in India to
whom one could give money on a regular basis to take care of a child.
I would like any information on any such organization. I am particularly
interested in CRY (Child Relief and You).

Since I am not a regular reader of this group, I would much appreciate
if you could send info by e-mail.

Thanks a lot in advance,

-dheeraj

PS: I would summarize if there is sufficient interest.
-- 
Dheeraj Sanghi			(h):301-474-3592	(o):301-405-2723
Internet: dheeraj@cs.umd.edu	UUCP: uunet!mimsy!dheeraj
I asked a Burmese why women, after centuries of following their men, now walk
ahead. He said there were many unexploded land mines since the war. - Mueller
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From: fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh,alt.config
Subject: Re: soc.culture.lang.bengali
Date: 3 Jan 1993 15:46:43 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

U R A God likhonti:
>>fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:
>>>	oomike kee khobar na loge che. ee ki bolbe tumi Bongoli bobu?
>>>	Ek thau Ruchir Godura, unike anagram haube "u r a god". God key
>
>Ai Phophot, aabar naam niye podpakami.
>Toom saala, aapna bhasa mein kiya leekhta hai, malum nahin.
>Kintu, ek kotha bole deta hai, gaala-gaali diya to jhamela karega hum !
>Saamjha ?
>:-) :-)

	Tumi saala ekdom dhakkan dhoti-babu, paan chabaukee chomp chomp
	korobe :). Tumi ke gaal-gaali key khobar padibe! tum sirif dhoti
	sameti ou cheeeled beear peeunke ekthau feeelter wheeels fukonti :)
	tabiyat phadaki te tumi amike ekdum long dishtaance phone par
	shobaashi deube kari, haan?


>u-r-a-god bol-le cholega kintu. U haamara daaknaam hai.
>BTW : u-r-a-god was one of my nicknames in college .. 
>
>Ruchir.

	vaisan deeply dekhinto "u r a God" saachima che " shaitaan ki khaala"
	:) par apraan dostaar lokon ek-dui saamosa khadate sobhi jonta
	"mera Ruchir mahaan" bolbe, robot sagle saala.. :). ghooskhor
	dostaar tumika.

	FFT



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From: dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose)
Subject: Re: Babri Masjid (Who was Babar)
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:12:02 GMT

uipooper@bcars123.bnr.ca (UI Pooper 2) writes:

>Here is my 2-cents worth after reading a lot of sane and "insane"	
>stuff from netters:	

>1. Destruction of place of worship is Vandalism, no matter who does
>   it. There is absolutely no justification for it. 

               SHUT UP !!   YOU FOOL !

		I CONGRATULATE THE BJP/VHP/RSS/BAJRANG DAl ETC.
	FOR THIS GREAT ACHIVEMENT . THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE
	DESTRUCTION OF , SO CALLED MOSQUE , GOES ONLY TO
	MUSLIM FUNDAMENTALIST ORGANISATIONS LIKE BMAC. etc.
	, WHO DIDNOT MOVE AN INCH TOWARDS COMPROMISE ON THIS ISSUE
	OVER THE YEARS .

		THE BJP/VHP/RSS/BAJRANG DAL etc. NAVER HAD THE
	INTENTION OF BREAKING THE STRUCTURE , THEY ALWAYS WANTED
	MUSLIMS TO GIVE UP THEIR CLAIM ON THAT LAND AS A TOKEN
	OF LOVE AND FRIENDSHIP TOWARDS THE HINDU COMMUNITY .
	BUT THESE IDIOTS NEVER REALISED  THAT THAT SPOT IN
	AYODHYA CARRIED HOW MUCH IMPORTANCE FOR THE HINDUS .

	WHEN THESE MUSLIMS DO NOT HAVE ANY RESPECT FOR OUR
	SENTIMENTS , THERE IS NO NEED FOR US TO SHOW ANY RESPECT
	FOR THEIR RELIGIOUS PLACES .

	AND NOW WHEN THE STRUCTURE HAS BEEN DESTROYED , EVERYONE
	PUTS THE BLAME ON BJP/VHP/RSS/BAJRANG DAL etc.

	HA  HA   HA  HA  HA !

	SHAME ON YOU!!

>2. Who should be ashamed? The "Vandals" of course. Don't punish the
		  ^^^^^^^^      ^^^^^^^
     YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED ! 

			DON"T CALL THEM 'VANDALS'
			      CALL THEM  ' VEER KAR  SEVAKS '

					GOT IT ??


>   innocent with guilty. Most people (99%) would against such gross
			   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	I PITY YOUR IGNORANCE . THE RAPIDLY INCREASING POPULARITY
	OF BJP GIVES THE IDEA OF HOW MANY PEOPLE REALLY SUPPORT
	THE ACT OF , SO CALLED, VANDALISM .

>   acts of vandalism. This would be true in Pakistan or India.
				            ^^^^^^^^^^
	DON'T TAKE THE NAMES OF 'TERRORIST STATES ' IN SUCH
	HEALTHY DISCUSSIONS .


>3. MK Ghandi contended - all religios are imperfect because we (human)
>   are imperfect. To follow a religion "blindly" will only make us
>   "blind" (much to the delight of clerics, of course).

>Love for all, hate for none...comprendez amigoes	
>JAIS



	RAMJANMABHOOMI  KI  JAI
	SHAHEED KAR SEVAKON KI JAI

	BHARAT MAATA KI JAI .
From: dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose)
Subject: Re: KNOCK! KNOCK! P-Js
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 19:42:05 GMT



	Thuck Thuck !
	Kaun ?
	DON .
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh,alt.config
From: selvakum@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (C.R.Selvakumar - Electrical Engineering)
Subject: Re: Hindu Marriage Rituals
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 03:36:07 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.210502.1701@oracorp.com> narayana@oracorp.com (K. T. Narayana) writes:
>To Continue this thread on Vedic marriage rituals further:
>
>When my eldest sister was married (long ago), the bride and bridegroom
>wore Madhuparkhams. A madhuparkham is clothing dipped in
>termeric water and dried. The clothing is a Dhothi for the Bridegroom
>and a 9-yard saree for the bride. The clothing is invariably
>made of pure white cotton.
>
>So traditional is this for Vaisnavites settled in AP, that during
>the marriage, my sister's mother-in-law's parents walked out
>of the marriage ceremony. Ofcourse as you expect, they were
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Tamils and apparently, the Tamil marriage ritual regards
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Madhuparkham as Ashubham. Madhuparkam is a Telugu custom 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

         Kuram Narayana, why don't you state that your sister's
         mother-in-law's parents walked out instead of saying
         "Ofcourse" and "they were Tamils" as if this common to
         Tamils and well known. I have come across many who hold
         several things as Ashubham which is apparently based on their
         view of ill luck or ill omen. The Turmeric coated cloth is
         sacred as per many tamils I know. 

         It appears that your strong dislike of Tamil or Tamil related
         customs and practices might be related to some family related
         prejudices you had developed. The marriage customs are so
         varied even within the same community ( except possibly some
         very few key items) and thus it would be quite inappropriate
         to extend these to larger groups like "Tamils" and
         "Telugus" without an in-depth study. 

>imbibed by the vaisnavites in AP. They consider that Termeric
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>as a symbol of happiness.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

     Many Tamils also consider in the same light.
>
>There are some rituals that go in the preparation of the
>Madhuparkhams.
>
>On the other hand, there are some communities who use pure white
>clothing, and some who use pure Silk clothing. For example, AP
>brahmins (namely followers of Sankara) follow a system of rituals 
>that are at variance from the vaisnavites. Note that all Brahmins
>in AP are vaidiika brahmins; I seriously doubt (i have not come across
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>one in my life) a nonvaidiika brahmin in AP. 
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

        Could you explain what you mean vaidiika brahmin and one who is
        nonvaidiika brahmin ? Your assertions seem to be rather too
        general.

>(Note that you have to leave aside those migrating recently in the
>past 50 years or so.  )
>
>...kt
>


      -Selva
From: an4329@anon.penet.fi (Tera Baap)
Subject: MUSTAFA KAHAN GAYAA( DARPOKE PAKISTANI )
Organization: Anonymous contact service
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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 22:38:57 GMT

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        TU KAHAN YE BATAA , IS NASHEELI RAAT ME
        MANE NA MERA DIL DIWAANA

        SUHANI RAAT DHAL CHUKI NA JANE TUM KAB AAOGE

        AKELE HAIN CHALE AAO KAHAN HO
        KAHAAN AAWAZ DE TUM KO KAHAN HO ?

        JAANE WAALE HO SAKE TO LAUT KE AANA .

        AAJAO TARAP TE HAI AARMAN , AB RAAT GUZARNE WAALI HAI
        AB RAAT GUZARNE WAALI HAI .....

        TU CHCHUPI HAI KAHAN , MAI TARAPTA YAHAN....



        JANE KAHAN MERA IDIOT GAYAA JI
        ABHI-ABHI YEHIN THA KIDHAR GAYAA JI .
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        ARE MUSTAFA AA GAYA TERA DIWANA
        BATAA BATAA , KAHAN HAI TERE THIKANA


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        NA JAANE TAMMANNA KIDHAR JA RAHI HO
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From: dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose)
Subject: Re: SALA DEB CHATTERJEE KA G*** ME LATH MARO MERE MUSLIM BHAIO
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 20:24:19 GMT

gardner@convex.com (Steve Gardner) writes:

>In article <1993Jan2.005626.14917@fuug.fi> an3925@anon.penet.fi writes:
>>What know you of wit, you filthy, loud barking pedigreeless, Sonar Bangla dog.
>	[anti bengali nonsense deleted]
>>and now bark like street dog. How funny, so many dogs barking :)))))))
>	No wonder you wish to remain anonymous.  Only a coward would 
>	spew this kind of racist filth.  Come out where we can see you
						  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

			HE DOESN'T HAVE TO COME OUT , WE CAN VERY WELL 

			SMELL THE IDIOT MUSTAFA'S FILTHY A** .
						
								DEEPAK

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: narayana@oracorp.com (K. T. Narayana)
Subject: Re: Censorship and Internet (Re: Samit Banerjee and Ed Crick)
Organization: ORA Corporation, Ithaca, New York
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 14:54:59 GMT

In article <1hnbqeINN66p@function.mps.ohio-state.edu> vidynath@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Vidhyarath K Rao) writes:
>
>If some one makes a slanderous remark or uses uncalled for vulgarity, save it,
>send it to the system administrator of the poster and demand action. If none
>Vidhyanath Rao			It is the man, not the method, that solves


I think the system administrators are too preoccupied with admn (or say nonadmn)
to worry about flames/bad lang. etc., on the usenet.

Per se there does not exist any instrument to enforce cencorship. Neither
is the first amndmnt applicable to usenet. In practice though, people
tend to apply the same yardstick as outside. For example, in UK the usenet
privilliage may not admit transmitting and talking about sensitive state
secrets (lady di's impending remarriage to prince andrew). 

The question is the following. Does the first amndmnt protect once right
to speak a lie (a consummate lie), and to promote the lie as a truth?

...kt
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sheth@cse.iitb.ernet.in (Nischal N Sheth)
Subject: F2 visa query
Organization: Department of Computer Science,IIT, Bombay
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 09:08:41 GMT

Hi guys,

I am a PhD student at university of Buffalo. I am in India 
right now and I registered my marriage a week ago. My wife
went for the visa interview (F2). She is refused F2 visa. 
The story is as follows:

She has admission in the same university. She went for F1 visa
last summer. She did not have financial aid. They rejected her
saying the financial documents are not satisfactory and she is 
a potential emigrant.

Now in the F2 interview they did not look at my documents at
all. They just looked at my I20 and marriage certificate. He 
asked her if the marriage was decided before the F1 reject
or after. She said after. Then he said" Tell me a better story".
And then he did not listen any further. Now she can't go for
interview for two more years. 

I will be coming back to US on 19th Jan. What I would like to
know is , Are there other methods of making this visa process
easier ? I have heard that letters from senators help. Any
information  in this respect will be of great help.

I am posting this news from India. Please reply to my buffalo
address which is : vpd@cs.buffalo.edu

Thanking in advance,
Vinay
vpd@cs.buffalo.edu
From: bkannan@ho12.eng.ua.edu (Balaji Kannan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Read before criticizing sati
Date: 23 Dec 1992 20:58:30 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


kbalasub@sparcle.oracle.com (Kris Balasubramanian) writes:

>What do you mean by this? This justifies SATI. This sounds like
>	"others did injustice some other way 
>	So we did it this way"

    Nyah! Too often, the people who condemn religious/cultural practices of
    other peoples display a holier-than-thou attitude [their hands are not  
    any cleaner I mean]. I don't find anything wrong [in an academic sense]
    when someone points out that persecution [now and before] transcends
    religion and culture;[Mind u, I am not downplaying the enormity of the 
    said practice.] just that the nature of persecution and how it
    was/is sanctioned differed/differs from culture to culture. 

>What a way to discuss an immoral act!  You say it is volunteering. This is the way
>cultures apply peer presssure to make people do something immoral. It is the
>duty of an educated broadminded person to condemn such acts. Do not blindly
            ^^^^^^^^
    you forget that he is a *dec-uated* person :-) And whoever told you that
    the ones who post on SCI are broadminded?? :-)

>defend something, just to show that you are patriotic or some thing.

    what has patriotism got to do with this? If so, let me remind the
    OP that it is kind of misplaced :-)    

>Balu


>>In article 9168@ryn.mro4.dec.com, verma@pfeast.enet.dec.com (Virendra Verma) writes:
>>Before anyone dare to criticize sati, look at these killings of witches.
>>At least sati was volunteer not forced. I condemn all killings.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Was it unforced? [in the strict sense]
     "caught between the devil and the deep blue sea" you'd have to volunteer
      for one no? btw, ethical [unethical rather :-)] relativism is highly 
      subjective. 


bk

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose)
Subject: Re: KNOCK KNOCK BOSEDIKA
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 20:50:37 GMT

an3947@anon.penet.fi (Deepak Boseadika) writes:

>KNOCK KNOCK!
>KAUN HAI?
>DEEPAK BOSE
>O BOSEDIKE PUTTAR, BAGH JA AUR APNI BEHEN KO BEJ :-))))))))))


	TERI MAA KO BHI BHEJOON ????

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From: raji+@cs.cmu.edu (Raji)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Info needed on CUNY Chemical Eng Dept.
Date: 26 Dec 92 02:57:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.BzuIwn.59D.1
Distribution: usa
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

I am seeking information regarding City University of New York 's Chemical
Engineering Department. One of my friends has got admission for the Fall 1993
semester in the MS program in the Chemical Engineering Department with no 
financial aid. I would really appreciate it if I could get some leads 
regarding the following questions.
1) Chances of getting financial assistance of any kind in the Fall ' 93 and 
   the following semesters.
2) Availability of on and off campus jobs.
3) Living expenses (approximate) for a year.
4) After how many semesters does a student with no financial aid can hope to 
   get some form of assistantships from the department? (based upon previous
   experiences of ex or present CUNY students)
5) Chances of getting a job on graduation.
6) With a score of 2000 + in GRE (VQA), what other reasonably good schools 
   should he apply to (with hopes of getting assistantships).
Answers on the above questions would be really appreciated.  Since I do
not read this newsgroup often, I would really appreciate it if the answers
are forwarded to :
rajis@cs.umr.edu
Thanks in advance!    
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar)
Subject: Re: Alt.culture.bengal
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 12:36:22 GMT

(Samit Banerjee) writes:
>Harsh Varma varma@paul.rutgers.edu writes with strong paranoid emotions:
>
>>creation of a newsgroup for your state probably is a ego issue. After
>>And then the Bengali's are of course superior: they will use their
>
>Such brazen, off-the-cuff ethnic stereotyping is despicable and disgusting.
>Only on the subcontinental newsgroups is it possible for a perfectly polite 
>and genuine enquiry to be subjected to such ad hominem attacks.

Samit, thou spake truly! 

As I recall, all these inane and fear-mongering attacks on ethnic
groups were presented when people wanted Tamil and Telugu groups.

Some even said that the creation of such groups will eventually
splinter Mother India, like a tail cutting the body into pieces.

Ladies and gentlemen, the results are in. Inspite of the creation
of Tamil and Telugu groups, THE REPUBLIC HAS SURVIVED.

And the quality and quantity of traffic on SCI has not altered 
one bit (whether it is good or bad news, one is one's own!)

Let us save ourselves this immense heartache and pain and let 
Bengalis form their own group. It is their right of free
association.

I vote Aye for any ehtnic group as long as it meets the usenet
traffic requirement.

Satya Prabhakar
>
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.pakistan
From: bhatnagr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Raj Bhatnagar)
Subject: Re:  Victory Day in Bangladesh!!!
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:53:43 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.215741.1093@beaver.cs.washington.edu> hasan@cs.washington.edu (Shams Hasan) writes:
>In article <1992Dec22.184201.24132@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com> gupta@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (Sanjay K. Gupta) writes:

>>to the Hindus? Doesn't Islam from Arab land owe an apology to all of us living 
>>in Indian sub-continent whose culture and religion this ideology sought to 
>>stifle and murder in the present day India and has already done it  in Pakistan
>>and Bangladesh over a thousand year period.
>>
>>Sanjay K. Gupta
>>

>Dear Sanjay K. Gupta,
>
>The good thing Islam did was take away the Nazi/Fascist religion of the 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Hindooswho today have all crawled inside their little closets. . . . .
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>Best Regards,
>Shams Hasan.



Dear Hasan Saheb, 

I would just like you to read the following article which has appeared
on soc.religion.islam. May be then you would know what is religious Fascism
which needs to be taken away.

---raj

Quoted article :

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Article: 2960 of soc.religion.islam
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
From: spectre@uiuc.edu (Ian)
Subject: Is it okay under Orthodox Islamic teaching to kill non-Muslim dakwa people?
Originator: zeeshan@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Zeeshan Hasan -Moderator)
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:07:47 GMT
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Asalamulaikum.

I read this article (included below) today. I have heard sentiments
from American Muslims that it's not proper under Islam to kill dakwa
people of other religions (unless they attack you physically). Is this
an orthodox Islamic belief, or is it just a reflection upon the fact
that these Muslims who voiced this opinion are Americans, and American
culture cherishes religious freedom? If American Muslims (or Muslims of
any other nationality for that matter) have proofs (scripture) to back
up that position, or if others have proofs to back up the other
position, could you email me with them? Thank you.

Wassalam,
Ian

------ Ramos appeals to Saudi Arabia king for Filipino preacher

MANILA, Philippines (UPI) President Fidel Ramos Tuesday appealed to Saudi
Arabia's King Fahd to pardon a Filipino born-again preacher scheduled to be
hung on Christmas Day in Riyadh.

``I wish to make a personal appeal to Your Royal Highness to spare Oswaldo
Magdangal from execution,'' Ramos said in a letter to the monarch. ``As you
know, 25 December is observed as a universal day of peace and forgiveness. I
believe that the significance of the season would not be missed by Your Majesty.''

Magdangal has been accused of preaching the Christian faith in Saudi Arabia,
a Muslim country. Aside from Ramos' letter, the government also instructed
the Philippine ambassador to Saudi Arabia to help secure Magdangal's release.
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