From: pharvey@mipos3.intel.com (Paul Harvey)
Subject: Re: What is the soul?
Organization: Uncle L is the future of the funk!
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:12:03 GMT

In article <sT9XTB1w165w@kalki33> kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us writes:
>pharvey@mipos3.intel.com (Paul Harvey) writes:
>> >No one but God can set up religious standards for others.
>> And God is a metaphor left to the student to decipher.
>Where do you get the information that God is a metaphor?

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

>> >That is why we follow God's scriptures rather than our own opinions.
>> If you ever find yourself to be failing, I think this is why. Metaphors don't
>> write. Now again, what is TRUE hypocrisy?
>> >In the scriptures, the soul is defined and the purpose of
>> >human life is given.
>> That is not the Krishna I know. Do we read the same texts?
>In Bhagavad-gita, Lord Krishna defines the soul:

I said *READ*, not quote! Learn *FROM* dogma, but please do not become 
dogmatic. My dog is always barking, but doesn't he remind you of Toto? 
In Langue d'Oc, Roma backwards is amor.

>> >We cannot concoct whatever definition we like, nor
>> >can we manufacture a purpose for life. These things are already
>> >established by the Lord.
>> The best have all been humbled. I am not as enlightened as the best. I am
>> not the one. Worlds above and worlds below, no one in the world like me.
>This is correct, but what is your point?

That is my point, exactly!

>> >In your post, we see a reference to "Hinduism", but the Mahabharata is
>> >not a "Hindu" book, it is a compiled history of this planet from very
>> >ancient times. The Mahabharata includes the Bhagavad-gita, which is a
>> >verbatim transcript of a conversation between Krishna, who is God, and
>> >Arjuna, who is Krishna's devotee. In this conversation, Krishna sets up
>> >religious standards for all human beings.
>> I doubt that. Perhaps you should study more. As for me, my Father is Dharma,
>> doing the right Spike Lee thang.
>Where do you get the information that your father is Dharma?

I tell you this is true, and yet you question? If I were to say, "Follow me
and be Free", would you follow? If I said I was The One, what would that
make you?

>We should like to see some credentials.

Worlds above and worlds below, no *ONE* in the world like me. Is this not
good enough?

>Then we will accept your claim.

Why should you accept my claim? Have I asked this of you?

>If you are
>really the son of Dharma, then you should know that Dharma, or Yamaraja,
>is a great devotee of Krishna, and that he is constantly glorifying the
>holy name of the Lord. He is considered one of the twelve mahajanas
>(authorities on devotional service), and he has been preaching Krishna
>consciousness for millions of years.

Dharma has been preaching Krishna consciousness for millions of years? Dharma
is a Hare Krishna? And of this you are sure?

>The situation of Dharma is
>described in the Bhagavat Purana, sixth canto, in the episode concerning
>the salvation of the brahmana Ajamila from the hands of the Yamadutas
>(servants of Yamaraja).
>Perhaps you should withdraw your foolish claim to be the son of Dharma.

How can my claim be foolish?

>> >He can do so, for He is the
>> >Lord. We are not the Lord, and so we simply follow what He has said.
>> I don't believe Krishna would be very pleased with what you say.
>Since you claim to know Krishna, why don't you ask Him?

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

>> >      |  Don't forget to chant:   Hare Krishna Hare Krishna   |
>> >      |                           Krishna Krishna Hare Hare   |
>> >      |                           Hare Rama Hare Rama         |
>> >      |                           Rama Rama Hare Hare         |
>> Don't forget to think! Krishna is not the first Krishna nor the last. Krishna
>> come amd Krishnas go like ants living in summer, oblivious of the coming deat
>> of winter. Shiva's drum beats, ta-ta-da! ta-ta-da! ta-ta-da-ta-da-ta-da!
>Again, where do you get this information?

Are you familiar with the humbling of Indra? Can you hear the drum beat?
Everyday death claims lives beyond number, and yet you claim to know the
only definitions of soul and purpose, oblivious to the beating of the drum.
Worlds above and worlds below, no *ONE* in the world like ... *YOU*! And
while you're in the studio, I'm in the trunk, beatin' down the block. Cars
drive by with the booming system. ta-ta-da! ta-ta-da! ta-ta-da-ta-da-ta-da!
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