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From: jdpierc@netcom.com (Jerry D. Pierce)
Subject: FAS & PCOMM problems
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 06:22:15 GMT


I've installed FAS2.10 on my Interactive 3.0 machine,
and have just run into a pretty nifty problem in regards
to using pcomm (a ProComm look-alike).

I only have 2 serial ports on the machine, one of which
is dedicated to my mouse so I can run Xwindows.  (Xfree86)

So the remaining serial port does double duty as both dial in
and dial out.

At first it looked like I might have a problem with people 
trying to dial in, but it turns out that I needed to create
a unique gettydefs entry so the port wouldn't go from one
entry to the next, but rather keep the port open at a constant
speed and let the modem take care of the rest.

So I fire up pcomm and am happily logged into another
machine when everything goes nutso on the screen.  I look
over and my modem is doing a rumba.  So I fire up a
virtual terminal window and notice that the system is 
trying to use the port for a UUCP transaction even though
I'm using it.  (Basically going through the motions of trying
to wake up the modem, and then dialing the number of the remote
site it was trying to reach)

Now this never happened before I started using FAS, so I'm
wondering if I might have something misconfigured within
the fas drivers themselves, or ??  Any fas veterans have any
suggestions as to where I might begin my search?

   Jerry D. Pierce
   jdpierc@netcom.com
From: johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
Subject: ISC 3.0 Ethernet trouble
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:22:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: iecc.1993Jan8.192224.10329
Organization: I.E.C.C.

I am trying to bring up TCP/IP on my ISC 3.0 system.  The network software
worked OK under 2.0, then I moved things around and unhooked the network
for quite a while, then tried to bring it back up yesterday.  The network
card is a WD8003E, the same card that worked before.  It's configured at
IRQ9, which looks like it should be legit.  I have TCP 1.3.0, Update 1,
and NFS 2.1.  The kernel is version 3.0, Update 5.

The symptom is that I can't get any response from the wd driver, even for
pinging myself.  Pings don't receive any responses, attempts to telnet or
ftp to myself fail, netstat -i gets an ioctl timeout on the wd interface,
though the hardwareless loopback interface is OK.

Does this sound at all familiar to anyone?

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
From: melchers@Harpo.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE (Bernd Melchers)
Subject: Re: g++ 2.3.2 bug (DELL Unix)
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 10:25:27 GMT

melchers@Chico.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE (Bernd Melchers) writes:

>I tried to compile libg++2.3.2 on DELL Unix. 
                            ^^^
I mean libg++2.3 

>I built gcc with ./configure --target=i386-sysv4; make CC=/usr/local/bin/gcc)
>and then made the sysv4-fixincludes.

>Compiling the library file 'Obstack.cc' results in the following
>error message:
>[melchers@tati] 171 (libg++-2.3/libg++/src): gcc -g -O ...


Some friendly people told me, I can fix the bug by deleting the
-g option because there's a problem with sysvr4 systems. They were right:
Just take ~libg++2.3/Makefile and choose
CCXFLAGS = -g -O #(or so... )
to
CCXFLAGS = -O
and everything goes ok.

Another question:
Has Someone experiences with
CCXFLAGS = -O2
?

Bernd
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Subject: New girl on the block needs help.
From: s342046@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au
Date: 5 Jan 93 10:07:20 GMT

Hi there!

In a month or so I plan to put together a unix system
running on a 386 or 486 PC.  I also have a spare
dumb terminal floating around.

I still haven't decided which operating system ( out of
coherent, minix or linux ) to use.

I would welcome any comments regarding the relative
merits (or defects) of each of these systems.  I am
very new to unix, coming from a dos and vax background,
so I may not understand overly technical responses.
Comments that relate to the general usefulness and
friendliness would be most welcome.

I am also totally unaware of the hardware requirements 
of each system.  Any guidance in this area would be a 
great help.

THANKS!

Jane Anna Langley			|snail-mail: 	105 Osborne Street
s342046@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au	|		South Yarra
University of Melbourne			|		Victoria 3141, AUSTRALIA
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From: paul@isl.cf.ac.uk (Paul Richards)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
Subject: Re: Shared Memory or DMA ethercards for UNIX on a PC
Keywords: Ethernet Adapters
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:29:01 GMT
Organization: Intelligent Systems Lab, ELSYM, Universiity of Wales, College of 
              Cardiff.

In article <C0GFw7.C7u@flatlin.ka.sub.org> bad@flatlin.ka.sub.org (Christoph Badura) writes:
>In <1993Jan6.201525.24636@nisc.psi.net> adams@nisc.psi.net (Mark Adams) writes:
>>I have a chance to purchase an ethernet adapter which supports
>>10BaseT and 10Base2 for about $100.  Two models are available,
>>one uses 32k shared memory, the other DMA.
>>For a multitasking system, which would be a wiser choice?
>
>The best choice would be a card that is supported with a driver by your
>UNIX. That said, I know of no ethernet card driver for UNIX that does
>DMA (if someone knows better please correct me).

Well actually, 386BSD has one for isolan cards. I'm pretty certain about
this because I wrote it :-)

I'm not a hardware expert but from what I've heard go for the shared
memory.  There are various problems with DMA on ISA buses in
performance and it's 16Mb limit. 

However as I said I'm not a hardware expert and I'd be interested in
some definite information. 
-- 
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From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.sys5.r4
Subject: Re: It's Time for a Shakedown (was Re: A few answers to Dell Unix FAQ)
Date: 10 Jan 93 19:42:43 GMT
Followup-To: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>Come to think of it, Sun unbundled their C compiler because so many
>people were using GCC,

Nope.  They unbundled it because they thought most of the customers they
plan to get for their machines wouldn't know a C program if one bit them
in the ass - and if they're successful, that'll probably be true....
From: rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
Subject: Makefile for RIPEM: ISC?
Date: 10 Jan 93 07:36:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Altruistic Intentions, Hollywood, CA

If anyone has made RIPEM (the public key encryption program)
successfully for ISC 3.0, I'd like a copy of the makefile.  I have
tried modifying the one supplied for sco with no success.

--Rob

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From: jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel)
Subject: Ultrastor 22C w/SVR4?
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:45:10 GMT
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Hello out there.  I'm currently using MST SVR4 with an Ultrastor 12F ESDI
controller that's showing its age.  Since I now have an EISA machine, I've
been thinking about replacing it with an Ultrastor 22C caching EISA ESDI
controller.  Has anyone here used this controller with SVR4?  Does it
require any special drivers or anything, or should it "just work"?  Any
information would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
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From: andys@flatline.sbi.com (Andy Sherman)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.sys5.r4
Subject: Re: It's Time for a Shakedown (was Re: A few answers to Dell Unix FAQ)
Date: 12 Jan 93 03:26:32 GMT
	<16328@auspex-gw.auspex.com>
Followup-To: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
Organization: Salomon Inc
In-reply-to: guy@Auspex.COM's message of 10 Jan 93 19:42:43 GMT

>>>>> Somebody wrote:

anon> Come to think of it, Sun unbundled their C compiler because so
anon> many people were using GCC,

>>>>> guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) replied:

guy> Nope.  They unbundled it because they thought most of the
guy> customers they plan to get for their machines wouldn't know a C
guy> program if one bit them in the ass - and if they're successful,
guy> that'll probably be true....

I wish people would stop being so snide about this.  Consider a
business like ours.  We have *lots* of Suns (big numbers, but the
details are probably proprietary).  The vast majority of them are
either end-user workstations or servers running applications.  There
a large number of developer workstations.  An unbundled C compiler is
a big win for us, to the extent that the price of the basic OS goes
down.  Our developers *do* know a C, C++, or F77 program, even if it
doesn't bite them in the ass.  Our end users (by and large) do not.
They don't have to -- this is an investment bank, not an engineering
firm.

The same situation exists all over Wall Street, and I'm sure in other
businesses as well.  This situation is not techno-geek failure, it is
techno-geek success (and yes, I put myself in that category.)  The
only way for Unix(R) to remain a system where most users need a
bundled C compiler is for Unix to cede the market for end-user
applications platforms to something else.  Auspex surely wants a piece
of the end-user oriented market, doesn't it?  (Check with your
marketing pukes before answering).

End users won't subsidize the rest of us directly anymore by buying
bundled compilers they don't need.  They *will* subsidize the rest of
us if they drive volumes up and prices down.
--
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Salomon Inc  -  Unix Systems Support  -  Rutherford, NJ
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
From: rwj@dogtag.uucp (Rob Janes)
Subject: Re: scsi tape problems on isc 3.0
Organization: BSOH Enterprises
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:22:27 GMT

Boy is this dumb.
I sent off a message to someone who had posted a similar problem in
this conference (I think).  They didn't have an answer, but they had
tried something I didn't try before.  They said that they had
configured the hpdd for a tape drive, with kconfig.
When I looked at the kconfig menu for the hpdd, I didn't go past the
select boot controller menu.
So, this time I did, and lo and behold, yes, the promised land ...
Hmmm - movie rights?  Charlton Heston?  Cecile B DeMille?
Well, metaphorically speaking I have been wandering about in a desert
but it's only been a weekend.  Haven't seen any manna, but those
chocolate chip cookies just keep comin'!

Credits to Jon LaBadie, as the prophet.

Rob Janes, that's with an N, like me tarzan you jane.
-- 
Rob Janes
rwj@bsoh.web.apc.org
From: stlouis@unixg.ubc.ca (Phill St. Louis)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
Subject: ISC UNIX & Colorado Tape Drives
Date: 4 Jan 1993 23:21:08 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca

We have Interacvive UNIX 2.2 installed on 6 machines, each of which have
a Colorado tape drive.  One of the machines has been panicing recently
when a backup is starting.  Now when we try to boot this machine, it gets
stuck (the boot stops) when it reaches the lines:

JTAPE Driver Version: 2.38
  Copyright 1990, ... All Rights Reserved.

We have tried powering down the thing a few times, but the thing will not
boot beyond this point.  Has anyone else had this problem?  What can we
do?

Any assistance is much appreciated.

Thanks

Phill St. Louis
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
From: melchers@Harpo.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE (Bernd Melchers)
Subject: >16MB per process (virtual) ?
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 10:04:54 GMT

We run DELL Unix SVR4,I2.1 on a 486/33MHz ISA , 16MB RAM.

With the standard configuration of
kernel parameters (/etc/conf/cf.d/mtune, /etc/conf/cf.d/stune)
it seems not to be possible to allocate more than 16MB of datasize
per process (e.g. malloc(16*1024*1024) fails ).

/usr/sbin/sysdef says
...
*
* Process Resource Limit Tunables (Current:Maximum)
*
Infinity  :Infinity     cpu time
Infinity  :Infinity     file size
0x01000000:0x01000000   heap size
0x01000000:0x01000000   stack size
0x00100000:0x00100000   core file size
0x00000040:0x00000400   file descriptors
0x01000000:0x01000000   mapped memory
...

swap -l gives:
path                 dev  swaplo blocks   free
/dev/swap            0,2       0  49152  34320

My question: is it possible, to tune the system, so
that a process can allocate more than 16MB of virtual memory.
Which parameters must be changed and which sideeffects are
expected (besides swapping).

thanks for your help
	Bernd

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From: steve@prd.co.uk (Steve Blinkhorn)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
Subject: Re: HOSTID's for SCO and ISC UNIX???
Date: 7 Jan 93 09:53:43 GMT
Organization: Psychometric Research & Development Ltd

In <1993Jan6.003154.255@homebase.vistachrome.com> andy@homebase.vistachrome.com (Andy Finkenstadt) writes:

>rar@multix.no (Rolf A. Rennemo) writes:
>>scott@ais.com writes:
>>>Does anyone know of a way to get some unique machine id under SCO and
>>>Interactive Unix?  Something like what 'hostid' returns on a DEC?
>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>--Scott Gregory
>>>scott@ais.com
>>For SunSoft ISC UNIX you can user /etc/ser to return serial number.
>>I think it was included in ver. 3.0.1.
>>Cheers,
>>Rolf
>>-- 

>Neat!  It's actually included with 3.0 since I haven't yet installed
>3.0.1 or the maintenance upgrade to 3.0.1 either.

>I have no way of checking if it is included on 2.2.1 2.2 2.0.2 or 2.0

>-- 
>Andrew Finkenstadt, Vista-Chrome, Inc., Homes & Land Publishing Corporation
>GEnie Unix RoundTable Manager, andy@vistachrome.com, andy@genie.geis.com.

It's not in 2.0.2.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.sys5.r4
From: shane@cs.sunysb.edu (Shane Bouslough)
Subject: Re: It's Time for a Shakedown (was Re: A few answers to Dell Unix FAQ)
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, State U of NY at Stony Brook
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Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 17:53:55 GMT

Evan Leibovitch (evan@telly.on.ca) wrote:

: In article <1993Jan6.143644.25001@crd.ge.com>
: 	davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen) writes:
: >If USL drops the runtime+net price of UNIX to <$100 they will start
: >selling in volume. At current prices you don't get people buying UNIX to
: >try it, they only buy it because they need it.
: 
: Anyone that just wants to try UNIX won't go USL anyway, they'll go Linux
: or BSD or Minix or Coherent. There are lots of real cheap options if
: experimentation is all that's of interest.

I disagree. At <$100, why wouldn't you choose 'real' UNIX over, say,
Coherent which is also at $100? If the price was as low as Bill
suggests, I'd have to agree with him. Perhaps this will all change if
HURD or Linux ever gains the momentum that GCC has.

Come to think of it, Sun unbundled their C compiler because so many
people were using GCC, does that mean if GNU HURD gets as popular,
Sun will drop SunOS too :-)?

: When was the last time anyone can remember that an R4 vendor placed an
: ad in a non-UNIX computer magazine? Even one?

I've seen full page ads for Consensys SVR4.2 in PCWEEK. I think I've seen
UNIVEL ads there as well, but I'm not as sure about that.

:  Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software Ltd., located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario
:          evan@telly.on.ca / uunet!utzoo!telly!evan / (416) 452-0504

-Shane

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
From: becker@super.org (Donald J. Becker)
Subject: Re: Shared Memory or DMA ethercards for UNIX on a PC
Keywords: Ethernet Adapters
Organization: IDA Supercomputing Research Center
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:32:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.142902.2235@cm.cf.ac.uk> you write:
>In article <C0GFw7.C7u@flatlin.ka.sub.org> bad@flatlin.ka.sub.org (Christoph Badura) writes:
>>In <1993Jan6.201525.24636@nisc.psi.net> adams@nisc.psi.net (Mark Adams) writes:
>>>I have a chance to purchase an ethernet adapter which supports
>>>10BaseT and 10Base2 for about $100.  Two models are available,
>>>one uses 32k shared memory, the other DMA.
>>>For a multitasking system, which would be a wiser choice?
>>
>>The best choice would be a card that is supported with a driver by your
>>UNIX. That said, I know of no ethernet card driver for UNIX that does
>>DMA (if someone knows better please correct me).
>
>Well actually, 386BSD has one for isolan cards. I'm pretty certain about
>this because I wrote it :-)
>
>I'm not a hardware expert but from what I've heard go for the shared
>memory.  There are various problems with DMA on ISA buses in
>performance and it's 16Mb limit. 


That's surprising -- do you get any significant performance advantage
by using DMA vs. programmed I/O?  You can transfer a lot of words over
an ISA bus in the time it takes you to set up the DMA controller and
take the completion interrupt; you might win for an 8 bit card that
does lots of full-length packets but otherwise?

My ethercard drivers for Linux use shared memory if it's available,
otherwise they use programmed I/O.  When shared memory is used the
whole packet is immediately removed from the ethercard, just the same
as the programmed I/O interface.  You might at first think you can
just pass the memory pointer up to the higher layers, but

	o you don't want to go over the ISA bus twice for the same data
	  so you should move the data someplace cacheable ASAP
	  (the ethercard is thoughtfully placed in a non-cacheable region)
	o you are probably going to look at most of the packet anyway
	  so you might as well move it to your cache now
	o leaving a packet on the ethercard takes up packet buffer space,
	  creates a garbage collection problem, and will clog things
	  up if your ethercard uses a ring buffer (most do).

-- 
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Supercomputing Research Center
17100 Science Drive, Bowie MD 21114		   301-805-7482
From: mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
Subject: Re: Couple of Dell v2.2 questions
Date: 7 Jan 1993 04:41:06 -0500
Organization: The Programmers' Pit Stop, Ann Arbor MI
NNTP-Posting-Host: mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us

In article <1993Jan6.011449.2950@mark-one.inet-uk.co.uk> mark@mark-one.inet-uk.co.uk (Mark Powell) writes:
>However, this has pulled back the /etc/partitions
>file from the old filesystem which is incorrect for the new resized root, 
>/home systems. How can I rebuild this file to reflect the new setup?

You don't need to.  /etc/partitions exists only for backward
compatibility with SunOS, and isn't actually used by any of the SVR4
software (except mkpart(1), but that only exists for SunOS
compatibility too).  All of the partitioning information that matters
is stored in the VTOC, displayed with prtvtoc(1), and changed with
edvtoc(1).  If you really want to, prtvtoc has a "-e" flag to makes it
read the VTOC and rewrite /etc/partitions from it.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
From: andy@homebase.vistachrome.com (Andy Finkenstadt)
Subject: Re: HOSTID's for SCO and ISC UNIX???
Reply-To: andy@homebase.vistachrome.com
Organization: Vista-Chrome Incorporated
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:31:54 GMT

rar@multix.no (Rolf A. Rennemo) writes:
>scott@ais.com writes:
>>Does anyone know of a way to get some unique machine id under SCO and
>>Interactive Unix?  Something like what 'hostid' returns on a DEC?
>>Thanks in advance.
>>--Scott Gregory
>>scott@ais.com
>For SunSoft ISC UNIX you can user /etc/ser to return serial number.
>I think it was included in ver. 3.0.1.
>Cheers,
>Rolf
>-- 
>Rolf A. Rennemo         ! Tel. +47 2 950800,  Fax. +47 2 950790
>rar@multix.no           ! Multix AS, Gjerdrumsvei 12, 0486 Oslo, Norway

Neat!  It's actually included with 3.0 since I haven't yet installed
3.0.1 or the maintenance upgrade to 3.0.1 either.

I have no way of checking if it is included on 2.2.1 2.2 2.0.2 or 2.0

-- 
Andrew Finkenstadt, Vista-Chrome, Inc., Homes & Land Publishing Corporation
GEnie Unix RoundTable Manager, andy@vistachrome.com, andy@genie.geis.com.

"[The author] neither accidentally nor intentionally omits or includes 
anything that could support a preconceived thesis." - C&EN 21-DEC-92 p.72
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