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From: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Candlemass Quick Question (or two)
Reply-To: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:56:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.134749.4004@kth.se> d90-two@dront.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer) writes:
>In article <LAVONIUS.92Dec12112249@plootu.Helsinki.FI> lavonius@plootu.Helsinki.FI (Ville Lavonius) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec12.020126.24338@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>>
>>   That was my first taste of Candlemass and if I can find their albums I'll
>>   be getting some of their other stuff. I hear the newest one (an import) is
>>   very different because Messiah Marcolin is with Count Raven now.
>>
>>What ? When did this happen ?
>Repeat previous line a couple of times...

Well, I heard a bunch of stuff about where Marcolin went, from Mercy to Count
Raven, but I've heard the story that he sings for Count Raven much more often
than him singing for Mercy. Are they still around anymore?

philip
Philip Wang                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Memories persist, succubus I've kissed, my thoughts remiss, I'll lose my brain
 if you don't wake me" - Defenestration, "Battle Of The Hemispheres"
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From: jmalcolm@sura.net (Joseph Malcolm)
Subject: Re: Headbangers Ball?????
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 07:25:11 GMT

In article <105338@bu.edu> venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky) writes:
>Hey!!!
>Candlemass does have video out!I don't remember which one but before I saw this
>video I hadn't heard CANDLEMASS at all.And after this video I just bought
>all their CDs cuz it was awesome (except Epicus Doomicus Metallicus-
>Not available on CD.Sigh.Had to get LP)

Well, at least at one point it was available on CD, since I have a
copy.
-- 
Joseph Malcolm				jmalcolm@sura.net		
SURAnet Operations			+1 301 982 4600
From: rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden's FEAR OF THE DARK
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:57:56 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Dec17.234605.8949@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>>>
>>	I don't think Bruce can ever do the Di'anno songs as well and vice-
>>versa.  Murders in the Rue Morgue is still best when done by Di'anno.
>
>"Vice Versa"? Now THAT is a superb Dickinson song. I've got it on a comp. and
>a live version on LIVE AT READING '81. Samson was at its best IMHO when
>Dickinson was in the band. Di'anno never sang "Vice Versa." What are you
>talking about? <|-)=
>>
>philip
>Philip Wang                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
>"Memories persist, succubus I've kissed, my thoughts remiss, I'll lose my brain
> if you don't wake me" - Defenestration, "Battle Of The Hemispheres"

	I'm not sure if you're kidding or no, but to dispel any confusion, I
meant vice-versa as in "I can't see Di'anno doing Dickinson songs like NOtB,
Powerslave, Flight of Icarus, Wasted Years, etc.".  Vice Versa is an excellent
Samson song, BTW.
	Oh, hey, while I've got you here, there's another record/CD show coming
up.  I'll have to go home and check the date, if it's this weekend, I won't be
able to get word to you soon enough (I'll be back on Mon.).  I can, however,
give you what info I have, so I can just tell you when another show's coming
up or so you can write them and ask to be put on their mailing list.  This, BTW,
is the show that had TONS of rare Maiden/Di'anno stuff, much of the latter being
pretty cheap.  If anyone else is interested, this is in Wayne, NJ and I'll post
info A.S.A.P. (that's as soon as possible, not Adrian Smith And P...?  :)  )

							Raythrax
From: ainsi@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Robert Bristol)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: RE: MORE ON THIS SELLING OUT THING
Date: 18 Dec 1992 14:41:05 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

OK, Here's my view on this whole thing ... feel free to add in if you want.

I feel a band sells out when THEY become more central than the music, i.e.
The flashing lights on stage are there to make the band look good, not add
to the effect of the music.  
(before I write an example let me reiterate that the selling out thing is on
 trial, not my musical tates)
Example:  I saw Queensryche during the Empire tour and they played the song
"Roads to Madness" off of The Warning.  During this song the lights went down
and green and red lights came up ... real eerie.  At the finish, Geoff was 
leaning over a grate, with wind blowing his hair around and the lights 
illuminating one siide of his face with red, the other with green resulting in 
some real weird shadows.  The point here is that the lights added to the music,
resulting in a visual AND an audio effect whihc was quite impressive.  I DO NOT
CONSIDER THIS SELLING OUT.

Example 2: Now, if you watch poison videos, etc. The lighting is there to show
off the band, not the music (with the exception of the rare "exposion in time 
with a drum beat" I would assume that the concerts are the same way.

All in all, the point is that if the Band becomes the center of attention and
NOT the music, the band has sold out. AND, if they did that on purpose, that is
REALLY selling out (I.e. sellign the band TO sell the music).

Is response to the Mettallica thing, the strobe during "One" seems like it
would be wild, but in the same respect, a whirling disco light during "Nothing
else Matters" would be cheesy.

Once again:   Music before band -----> NOT a sell out.
	      Band before musc ------> YES a sell out.


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From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Newer Black Sabbath
Organization: none
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 13:38:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.012758.1@research.ptt.nl> mschenk@research.ptt.nl (Mike Schenk +31 70 33 23926) writes:
>In article <Bz00xI.DL@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v096pz6l@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (HAVE YOU HAD YOUR SPAM TODAY?) writes:
>> In article <ByzvDF.M35@math.uwaterloo.ca>, amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault) writes...
>>>In article <1992Dec9.033153.24459@news.acns.nwu.edu> autopsy@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Gregory Baumgartel) writes:
>>>	Born Again had Ian Gillan (of Deep Purple fame), Seventh Star featured
>>>Glen Hughes.
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>   Glen Hughes is also of Deep Purple fame.He played bass on the last couple
>> of albums.He also was in the Butterfly Ball(??). He sang the Bat.
>> It was a cool song for a childrens album.
>
>Wel he did not play bass on the last couple of Deep Purple 
>albums. These featured Roger Glover again. But you mean the
>Mark III & IV albums. These are not the last since the Mark II 
>reunion and the one with Joe Lynn Turner.
>
>    Mike

No he doesn't mean Mark II or anythng. He is referring to the last few albums
made before Deep Purple broke up the first time.

try listening to "Come Taste The Band" sometime...
					
Pax
					--Judex--
From: venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Hatric/Blues shit
Date: 20 Dec 92 15:42:26 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1992Dec20.032003.3090@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>lot more blues, at least on the singles and excerpts I have (most from 
>AFTER THE STORM and DON'T GET MAD GET EVEN). If you have "Riding With The
 ^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^
It's BEFORE THE STORM BTW. I have both of these albums and I hate them.
New singer is really dork.Stupid music IMO.

>>Black Sabbath MOVED away from blues. They almost killed blues in their
>>entire msic that's why they turned all this shit upside down!
>>I don't hear any blues in Iron Man or Paranoid.WarPigs has a bit in solo parts.
>>
>How about in the solo of "Iron Man"? It's not straight blues, but you can hear
>the influences.

Not really. War Pigs has a bit blues on solo part, but it doesn't bother me.It
still sounds heavy over all.
Teacher's Pet also has straight forward blues but the way they did it was cool.


Hey! 
Does anyone know the old (middle 80s) HM band from Chicago HATRIC.

They put album on ROADRUNNER in 1985 or 1986.The album was called THE BEAST.
Very weird,powerful and different HEavy Metal. I'm looking for this album.
If anyone knows how to get it, lemme know please.


Leonid,
             
              Boston,

************************* B L A C K   S A B B A T H ***************************
#                                                                             #
#                         Maybe She Could Please Me                           #
#                         If I Saw Beneath Her Veil                           #
#                                                                             #
#               But She Is Just An Immitation Woman Up For Sale               #
#                                                                             #
**** D i g i t a l   B i t c h ******** taken from BORN AGAIN album (p)1983 ***

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From: amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault)
Subject: Re: Selling out
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 21:37:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.143626.6861@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>In article <Bz3vt2.GBM@math.uwaterloo.ca> amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault) writes:
>
>Yeah, but they would do it too if they got the chance. So would you, probably.
>the money involved can be mindboggling!
>
	I'm sure the guys in Razor would be more than happy to be given a 
chance to find out what would happen! :-)

>Razor obscure? Really? I bought their first thing for the cover, then
>"Evil Invaders" and I have been a serious fan ever since!
>"Malicious Intent" was a let down, but they are back in force!

	I'd say they were relative unknowns in the States, seeing as their
album sales are so poor.  If nobody's buying the albums, they're certainly not
extremely popular.  I agree about _Malicious Intent_, and would add that their
release following that one, Custom Killing, was even WORSE.  Two poor albums
did them some serious harm.  Many had written them off.  This was during a 
time when dissent grew within their confines and two of the original members
left after Custom Killing, kind of an experimental album for Razor.  But
Violent Restitution came along and BLEW MY FUCKING MIND TO BITS!  I had to say
that to somehow express how I felt (and still feel) listening to this album.

The violent clash is on,
						  Big Al the Devil's Pal!!
                                                     __   __            
                                                    /  `-' /          ,,
                                                    |[====|||||||||||[::}
                                                    \__.-._\          ``
From: venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Samson/Iron Maiden/Killers
Date: 19 Dec 92 16:43:22 GMT
Distribution: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA



Did anyone notice that the song THUNDERBURST off SAMSON's HEAD ON album is 
the same as THE IDES OF MARCH off Iron Maiden's KILLERS and in fact
it was co-written with Steve Harris on Samson's album. Check it out.


Leonid,
             
              Boston,

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From: mech14017020@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Fates Warning!
Date: 13 Dec 92 14:45:12 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University

I was wondering, what are some of Fates Warning's early albums? I understand
that they are hard to find because the record company doesn't see proffit in 
re-releasing them. I sure can't find any around here. I have 'Paralells' and 
a bootleg copy of the album with 'Anarchy Divine' on it. Unfortunately, like
most bootlegs, the sound quality is terrible and it's almost as bad as not
having the album at all.
I think Ray Alder is a great singer, although he will never be as great as 
Geoff Tate. And speaking of Geoff Tate, when is Queensryche going to release
a new album? I can hardly contain myself.

		Troy
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From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Dream Theater ???????????????????
Organization: none
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 13:48:39 GMT

In article <1992Dec8.123805.21289@npal.rn.com> cthomas@npal.rn.com writes:
>In article <rcaldwel.723478378@ponder>, rcaldwel@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Roger Caldwell) writes:
>> Has anyone heard of this group?  What is their background?
>> 
>> thanks roger
>> -- 
>> rcaldwel@unt.edu
>> .sig file MIA.
>	I have the Dream Theater CD.  I am not sure from your comment if you've
>heard much of their stuff or not but the album is pretty good.  The music
>is a progressive heavy-metal sort of like Fates Warning, actually a lot like
>Fates Warning with better vocals.  Overall the album is light and jazzy
>with a few heavy Metallica style rythms.  If you like Fates Warning you'll
>love Dream Theater
>
>					CHUCKBILL
>
>	Mine goes to 11!

Better vocals than Fates? hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

I still love Dream Theater, but lets be realistic here.

Pax
					--Judex--

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From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Ozzy and Bill Ward singing
Organization: none
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 13:59:58 GMT

In article <sf9ah4_00WBKA61ldY@andrew.cmu.edu> "Marc E. Colosimo" <mc6i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>   The only time anyone else was credited for singing a song for Sabbath
>with Ozzy in the band still was Bill Ward for "It's Alright". That was
>the last album Ozzy sang on (I don't think he finished the tour?) He
>almost didn't sing, but at the last minute changed his mind and recorded
>it. But it was pulling teeth. When it came time to sing that song, he
>just wouldn't sing it for some reason or another. Bill Ward sang it in
>concert.
>
>   Solitude also sounds like ward, but there are somethings about the
>voice which are Ozzy like(the way he sings). But only they know who it
>is.
>
>-marc
>
>---------------------------------------------
>Voices in the Darkness
>Scream away my mental health
>Can I ask a question
>To help me save me from myself
>       -"Diary Of A Madman" by Ozzy Osbourne

references, please?
					--Judex--
From: 00sgmoses@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Metallica.......
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:11:00 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's


I am posting this gospel of the Burro in hopes that we here at Ball State are
not the last of the great horse haters.  Our numbers are dwindling in the face
of modern religion and widespread horse breeding, but we will survive. Any
comments via e-mail are welcome.

The Story Of Pepe: In the Beginning

In the beginning, god created Burros, and the Burros were good.  They far
exceeded his hopes he had for his first try at creating life, humans.  The
burros were invited into Eden after the first man and woman were exiled. 
Again, his only request was that the burros not eat from the tree of knowledge. 
So it went, for many years the burros froliced amidst the wonders of Eden. The
most boisterous of the burros created was named Edward, son of Hubert, son of
Skippy of the house of Dewy(not to be confused with Wilendorf who was a little
taller than Dewy).  Anyway, Ed was in the orchard with his brother burro,
Phil. Ed said to Phil, "why don't we take a bite of the fruit of the tree of
knowledge, maybe the big guy is not so uptight about it anymore"  Phil said
unto Ed (being a true and good burro)"I don't think this is wise, god will be
pissed."  Ed, in an act of defiance, ate an apple from the tree, and suddenly
realized that he was not a burro at all, but a horse!  God appeared immediately
and said "Who took a bite now?"  Ed hollered at god (horses are so stupid) why
did you not tell me I was a Horse??  God knew immediately who the culprit was,
but he asked Phil to test his honor, and Phil told him the whole story.  God
said unto Ed, " from this point forward, all of your kind will walk on all
fours, and have no joy from licking burros.  You will beg for sugar cubes and
carrots, and APPLES from those stupid humans for the rest of your days. You
will be cursed among burrokind, they will shun you.  You will be forced to
help humans, they will ride your back and you will pull their garden
implements.  They will dress you in silly colors and ride you in circles and
make you count for them."  After that, god rested and kicked out all of the
horses and burros.  He kicked over the tree of knowledge and burnt the garden
to the ground muttering something about starting out smaller next time.  So this
began the eternal rift between the cursed horses and the saintly burros which
we so adore now.

Next post:  The coming and going of St.Pepe the Supreme BurroLicker

Courtesy:

The second but almost third Church of Pepe, Headquarters: San Juan Capistrano

Brad Howell, Professor of Useless Knowledge, Ball State University- Head Burro
Tender

Scott Moses, His High Burroness

Alexa Wallace, Chief Investigator, anti-equine affairs division.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: donnell@eel.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Dream Theater ???????????????????
Organization: none
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:32:23 GMT

In article <Bz60tz.E2I@math.uwaterloo.ca> amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault) writes:
>In article <1992Dec12.134839.6152@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec8.123805.21289@npal.rn.com> cthomas@npal.rn.com writes:
>>>In article <rcaldwel.723478378@ponder>, rcaldwel@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Roger Caldwell) writes:
>>>> Has anyone heard of this group?  What is their background?
>>>> 
>>>> thanks roger
>>>> -- 
>>>> rcaldwel@unt.edu
>>>> .sig file MIA.
>>>	I have the Dream Theater CD.  I am not sure from your comment if you've
>>>heard much of their stuff or not but the album is pretty good.  The music
>>>is a progressive heavy-metal sort of like Fates Warning, actually a lot like
>>>Fates Warning with better vocals.  Overall the album is light and jazzy
>>>with a few heavy Metallica style rythms.  If you like Fates Warning you'll
>>>love Dream Theater
>>>
>>>					CHUCKBILL
>>>
>>>	Mine goes to 11!
>>
>>Better vocals than Fates? hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
>>
>>I still love Dream Theater, but lets be realistic here.
>>
>	Well, a fellow a.rnr.m.h 'er and I swapped tunes not too long ago.  I
>got him to send me Fates' Warning's Parallels and Dream Theater's Images and
>Words.  I must say that DT's vocalist blows away Fates' Warning's.  Fates'
>singer tries to sound like Goeff Tate too much, anyway.
>
>Still at the bottom of the heap,
>						  Big Al the Devil's Pal!!
>                                                     __   __            
>                                                    /  `-' /          ,,
>                                                    |[====|||||||||||[::}
>                                                    \__.-._\          ``

sorry, but listen again. Ray Alder has a similar range to Tate, but a very
distinct tone, and his own style. Wouldn't compare the two, Ray is
much more delicate, IMHO.

Now if you want someone who tries to sound like Tate, I love the band,
but Midnight is damn near a Tate clone at times. Crimson Glory is a 
great band, but the vocals are way too close at times.

Pax
					--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: donnell@eel.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Marty Friedman's "Scenes"
Organization: none
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:53:06 GMT

In article <1gh370INN94u@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> caedmon@cats.ucsc.edu (Axeman) writes:
>
>veburst@contra.enet.dec.com (KSV) writes:
>>Nick Menza on drums and Brian BecVar (Kitaro's keyboardist) on keys....  The
>>whole album is *very* musically sound and beautiful to listen to... nice and
>>relaxing....
>
>ALas - how does it compare to DrAgOn's KisS?
>
>
>-- 
>,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,
>,;';,   caedmon@ucscb.ucsc.edu               Jeff Ishaq          .,;';,
>,;';,   I am a meatball:  Bite me.           Guitar withdrawal!  .,;';,
>,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,

Simple. This is NOT an album of Heavy Metal guitar solos. It's classically
influenced New age music. It's very good, but probably not everyones
cup of tea. Very nice playing though!

					--Judex--
From: Andrew_Miller@camelot.apana.org.au (Andrew Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Morbid Angel!!!
Distribution: world
Date: 18 Dec 92 00:46:52 EST
Organization: The TOWER BBS


Listen up suckers... I wanna know what the hell is happening with Morbid
Angel!!! They are my all time fave death band, and seeing them live in
Sydney only clinched it. So does ANYONE know when the new album comes out?

Also, when are Napalm Death coming out to Australia? It was sposed to be
this month, but nope... Bolt THrower are coming!! I'll be there!



     Me.


-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

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From: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Headbangers Ball?????
Reply-To: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:43:45 GMT

In article <BzGpCD.K7y@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mlm@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael McCool) writes:
>Dark Lord of the Sith (caine@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
>: 
>:                           ...Look at the intro and commercial break pieces
>: for the show, with the Pantera holler of "Hostile!".  This is the stuff that
>: heavy metal is *usually* associated with.  They play that thing, and then
>: they put on pussy rock.  That's bull.  
>
>I never did understand that.  They play SOD in the intro, and yet you never
>hear anything heavy on the ball.  It's not like the videos aren't out there,
>except for older stuff, but they just don't get played.  Overkill videos
>exist back to Taking Over, when was the last time they played any of that?
>
And they never show and Iron Maiden videos before "Run To The Hills." Funny
because MTV in Japan when I was there had a special on Iron Maiden and they
had the "Wrathchild" video (from HEAVY METAL ARMY aka MAIDEN JAPAN in English
speaking countries), "Women In Uniform" from the EP of the same name, "Running
Free" from LIVE AFTER DEATH, slightly different versions of "2 Minutes To 
Midnight" and "The Trooper" (no insert footage of actors / movies - all
band shots from their respective tours), and "Running Free" from the single.
On the IM box set, Nicko mentioned that "Invasion" was their first video,
"Invasion" from the "Women In Uniform" EP. I think some shots of these old
videos appeared on the "Wasted Years" promo, but are they on 12 WASTED YEARS
or FROM THERE TO ETERNITY?

philip
Philip Wang                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Memories persist, succubus I've kissed, my thoughts remiss, I'll lose my brain
 if you don't wake me" - Defenestration, "Battle Of The Hemispheres"
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