HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jhood@smoke.marlboro.vt.us (John Hood)
Subject: Re: Threaded news reader for DOS
Organization: Cthulhu Worship Meeting of Southern Vermont
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 07:37:31 GMT

In article <23kuXB1w165w@quest.UUCP> srhqla!quest!kdq writes:
>    I have written a news threader (like that for trn) that creates a
>thread file in the specified directories.  I've beaten on it pretty
>heavily and it appears to be relatively immune to problems.  I'm
>looking for someone who has a reasonable unthreaded news reader (I
>haven't seen any threaded ones) that's interested in making use of my
>threader.
>
>    The executable and documentation is available to anyone; the
>source is available to the authors of newsreaders.  The output is a
>plain text file - I can provide routines to recreate the thread
>structure in memory, or even to do all the thread manipulation and
>call your browser when the appropriate file has already been opened.
>
>    The threader is straightforward to use.  You specify one or more
>directories, specify whether directory recursion is to be used (can
>be turned on and off), and specify whether it should report what it's
>doing (verbose mode).  It can also be set to purge old threads (a
>thread with no current articles).
>
>    If you're interested, please contact me via email (make sure the
>reply-to hasn't been munged (see the .sig).  This site receives
>alt.bbs.waffle, but not comp.bbs.waffle (sigh - it's an upstream
>problem).

I hate to rain on the parade, but there is an emerging standard in the
Usenet world for threading called NOV (News OverView).  If you want to
provide code that makes any sense for people doing NNTP-capable
newsreaders, you had better go look at the NOV stuff, as should anyone
who's doing a threaded newsreader.  Look in news.software.nntp, among
other places, for discussion about it.

  --jh


-- 
John Hood					Cthulhu-- just imagine it!
jhood@smoke.marlboro.vt.us
Duke U, 1980:  "Okay, so a few systems have the net started. What next?"
Xref: sparky alt.bbs.waffle:4896 comp.bbs.waffle:6385
From: kdq@quest.UUCP (Kevin D. Quitt)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.waffle,comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Threaded news reader for DOS
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 12:50:36 PST
Reply-To: srhqla!quest!kdq
Organization: Job quest  (805) 251-8210,  So Cal: (800) 400-8210

    I have written a news threader (like that for trn) that creates a
thread file in the specified directories.  I've beaten on it pretty
heavily and it appears to be relatively immune to problems.  I'm
looking for someone who has a reasonable unthreaded news reader (I
haven't seen any threaded ones) that's interested in making use of my
threader.

    The executable and documentation is available to anyone; the
source is available to the authors of newsreaders.  The output is a
plain text file - I can provide routines to recreate the thread
structure in memory, or even to do all the thread manipulation and
call your browser when the appropriate file has already been opened.

    The threader is straightforward to use.  You specify one or more
directories, specify whether directory recursion is to be used (can
be turned on and off), and specify whether it should report what it's
doing (verbose mode).  It can also be set to purge old threads (a
thread with no current articles).

    If you're interested, please contact me via email (make sure the
reply-to hasn't been munged (see the .sig).  This site receives
alt.bbs.waffle, but not comp.bbs.waffle (sigh - it's an upstream
problem).

    P.S. I'm also interested in a reasonable mailer to go along with
that reader.  Am I asking too much?


 _
Kevin D. Quitt      96.37% of all statistics are made up.     srhqla!quest!kdq
From: root@germes.simbirsk.su (Oleg V. Andreev)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: help
Date: 24 Jan 1993 08:03:17 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

help
list
quit
From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Setting up on Internet
Date: 21 Jan 1993 06:49:03 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Peter John Hanus (hanus@epas.utoronto.ca) wrote:

: Well, this time I was wondering how one goes about setting up their
: BBS on internet (that is, making it telnetable)?  Is it expensive (I'm
: in Toronto)?

Get a quote from ONET, from UUNET Canada, and probably also for a line
to the USA to Sprint, PSI, and Alternet.  My bets are the UUNET Canada
price will be best, but there are at least a few alternatives out there.

Is it expensive - well, if you're within local hailing distance of a
SLIP or PPP connection in the USA it should run you $175-$350/mo depending
on how you work it and what local call charges look like (flat rate,
metered, or flat rate as part of a Centrex).  I have not priced out
connections in Canada but they may well run you more - tho if you were
going to pull it off anywhere Toronto or Vancouver would be my best
bets where it would work.  There will also be a pile of setup charges.

claimer - we have public access Internet here ourselves, with one
BBS type system on the net right now behind us and a few others starting
to look at it.  

  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 GLOB
for more Msen info contact "info@mail.msen.com" - operators standing by 
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: 3386838@Jeff-Lab.QueensU.CA (Wes Garland)
Subject: Re: DTS-0001 proposed standard
Reply-To: 3386838@Jeff-Lab.QueensU.CA
Organization: Terminal Velocity Kingston
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:54:26 GMT

Cut & Pasted from Bill Fenner: 

 > This one is especially ridiculous, and makes this format completley useless
 > for use on BBS's that have USENET - subjects are quite often longer than
 > 32 characters.

Agreed. Whatever happened to ASCIIZ strings?

Cheers,
Wes

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|  Wes Garland                 | The Admiral                                 | 
|  Queen's University          | Terminal Velocity Kingston                  |
|  Kingston, Ontario, CANADA   | Fidonet 1:249/128                           |
|______________________________|_____________________________________________|
|  3386838@jeff-lab.queensu.ca | Pump up with Jim Kirk at the He's Dead Gym! |
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: manes@magpie.nycenet.edu (Steve Manes)
Subject: Re: Search capabilities in BBS's?
Organization: Manes and Associates, NYC
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:47:31 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Chael Hall (00cchall@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu) wrote:
: In article <1993Jan21.205940.3901@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
: mcover@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark Coverdill) writes:
: > 
: >    I am not that familiar with all the different BBS's out there in
: > cyberspace but the few I have seen are limited in one thing I am
: > looking for. I would like to store text based documents and allow
: > users to search through the system on keywords of their choosing.
: > Something perhaps similiar to rn but with the ability to search each
: > article for a string not just the header. The system would return the
: > articles marked with the string highlighted. Something like a
: > hypertext stack now that I think about it. Does such a system exist in
: > BBS form? in PD or Shareware?

:      This type of software is (IMHO) more suitable to a door than to
: actual BBS software.  A BBS needs to be flexible enough to allow for
: such specific uses, yet it needs to be standard enough to be useful
: to many types of SYSOPs and users.  What you are asking for should be
: an "add-on" in my opinion.

Magpie BBS (Unix and DOS) have both offered full text search capability
for several years and it's without a doubt one of the most popular features
with users.  One can compose multi-criteria, boolean searches like:

    "show me all messages containing the string 'rap' but not the
     string 'sucks' that were written after 11/15/92"
     
The search could be further reduced by specifying author name(s),
recipient name(s) and whether or not the message contains an attached
file.  It can then be further reduced to messages existing in the current
thread only.

I can't imagine running any kind of informational BBS without such a
built-in search engine.
-- 
Stephen Manes					   manes@magpie.nycenet.edu
Manes and Associates/Commontech-NoHo		   New York, NY, USA  =o&>o

Xref: sparky alt.bbs:8160 comp.bbs.misc:1861
From: nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: Door Development+
Date: 24 Jan 93 13:44:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: acad3.1993Jan24.054425.1
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

In article <24JAN93.01655654.0033@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA>, T0FG <T0FG@UNB.CA> writes:
> Hi and thanks to all those who have answered positively so far on my
> original message in this thread.
> 
> I have posted a copy of the proposal under the subject line
> "DTS-0001 proposed standard." I will repost it after this message.
> Great to hear support for it!
> 
> Also, to those who answered on the problem of getting to WWIVnet, I
> will try the whois command.  I have already sent mail via
> wwiv.tfsquad.mn.org, and the mail server has yet to complain about
> undeliverable mail.  So keeping my fingers crossed.... :)
> 
> Will.
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------------- William Burrow
> Internet:  t0fg@unb.ca                      |
>            will@1.f14.n255.z1.fidonet.org   |
> Fidonet:  1:255/14.1                        |

Might try sending the same message to wwiv.cojones.com
they also gate email to WWIVnet.. And also they go down at times..

Michael Adams
Alias: Morgoth/Ghost Wheel 
nsmca@acad2.alaska.edu
From: lbrodsky@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Lloyd Brodsky)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Boardwatch and Coconut Co
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:36:03 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


-- 
*  Lloyd Brodsky          Internet: lbrodsky@copper.denver.colorado.edu *
*  Univ CO Business School; Campus Box 165   Bitnet:  lbrodsky@cudenver *
*  P.O. Box 173364        Voice: 303-628-1265  Fax: 303-628-1299        *
*  Denver, Colorado 80217-3364, USA                                     *
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: T0FG000 <T0FG@UNB.CA>
Subject: RE: DTS-0001 STANDARD VS OTHER.
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:27:06 GMT


First, the mail address problem.  I believe that the simplest
solution is to use the appropriate network domain name after the
@-symbol in the address.  Once it is determined that the address
part before the @-symbol applies to a particular domain, then the
format for that domain should hold.  I will check the relevant RFC
docs to see if this is not the method advocated there already.

Second, on the date problem, using the ISO YYYY-MM-DD human-readable
format (this dropfile is intended to be human readable) can likely
be used without changing the current status of this line.  ISO
points out that this format is sufficiently different from others to
be easily detectable.

Third, to find an initial source for NAPLPS materials on the
internet, contact oldcolo.com via telnet or ftp.

Thanks for the input,
Will.


---------------------------------------- William Burrow
Internet:  t0fg@unb.ca                      |
           will@1.f14.n255.z1.fidonet.org   |
Fidonet:  1:255/14.1                        |
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc
From: mfreidso@zeus.calpoly.edu (Marc Freidson)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: BBS Development Newsgroup. Interested?
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:53:47 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

In article <1993Jan19.210847.1@acad3.alaska.edu> nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
>Would anyone be interested ina BBS-Development newsgroup.. generally for
>programmers, but also open to Sysops (all types) and users of BBSes..
>
>I have seen alot of BBS types, and netware, front doors, and other 
>items for BBSes and such.. Maybe it is time to list them, and to find ways to
>standardize BBSes a bit (atleast make better ways to integrate)..
>
>Just to find ways to leep to much confusion down..
>Leave a post here on alt.bbs or ??? any suggestions..
>
>
>Quyanna for your time..
>
>
>Michael Adams
>Alias: Morgoth/Ghost Wheel 
>nsmca@acad2.alaska.edu
>



Sounds like a good idea to me!

Marc
From: david.benfell@stargate.actrix.gen.nz (David Benfell) 
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: PCBoard share violations?
Date: 28 Jan 93 00:07:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Stargate BBS - Wellington, NZ - +64 4 566-2157
Reply-To: david.benfell@stargate.actrix.gen.nz (David Benfell) 

jwhite@mta.ca (Jay White) writes:

JW.By the way, I also noticed that PCBoard is not creating a
  .USERNET.DAT file like it's supposed to when in multiline
  .mode.  Instead, a file called "USERNET.XXX" is created in the
  .\PCB\MAIN\ directory.  Why is it doing this?

I can't help you with your SHARE problems I'm afraid.. but the 
USERNET.XXX is the new format for the old USERNET.DAT file so 
is perfectly ok.. CDC changed it late last year to accomodate some new 
features..... hence some programs writtem for USERNET.DAT won't work 
until they've been updated as the format is different.

Cheers

               David

 * 1st 1.02b #613s * You're only young once.  You're immature forever.
                                                                        
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+------------------------------------------------------------------+
|   Stargate BBS  +64 4 566-2157 (USR DS)  +64 4 566-6728 (2400)   |
|    Wellington, NZ - New Zealand's Professional PCBoard System    |
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: chelf@lunatix.uucp (Chad Helfenberger)
Subject: Telegard/Renegade
Organization: Lexington Public Access Unix. -KY- (606) 255-9121
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:47:18 GMT

Mr. Miyares extolled the greatness of Renegade, and said it is
'LIGHT YEARS ahead of where Telegard left off.'

Isn't Renegade the same as Telegard, with a few little ANSI-ridden
features?  It's obvious that whoever wrote Renegade just stole
the source code and put his name on it..


-- 
Chad Helfenberger
(lunatix!chelf@ms.uky.edu)
From: jfoy@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Jeff Foy)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: QwikMail (.QWK) File format
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:54:56 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: glia.biostr.washington.edu

In <8839280226011993/A05764/POSSE/1171D09C1F00*@mrgate.uwyo.edu> TRUTH@corral.uwyo.edu ("Geof Peters (TRUTH)") writes:

>I recently read about the .QWK (QwikMail) file format that is supported 
>on BBSes around the nation. Does anybody, by chance, know where I can
>find the docs on this file format if it is public domain? And, are there
>any other popular BBS Email file formats out there?

Geof, see the file QWKLAY16.ZIP in Simtel20's pd1:<msdos.info> area. It
has the complete spec that you're looking for.

-- 
Jeffery Foy -- jfoy@glia.biostr.washington.edu
             *** FREE BILL & KATHY SWAN ***
-*- Happy as a clam to be using Professional YAM -*-  :)
From: jim.condon%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Jim Condon) 
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: SEVEN KEYS BBS AD
Date: 24 Jan 93 21:47:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: jim.condon%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Jim Condon) 


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Running PCBoard 14.5a/2                       20+ Game Doors and growing
A Rime Node (739 SEVENKEYS)                   914-747-2836
Qmail4 Mail door                              USR Dual Standard
(HST,v32)
700+ Megs of Downloadable files               Sysop: Jim Condon
                                   
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
From: tabet2m@fiu.edu (Marwan Tabet)
Subject: The Rookie BBS
Organization: Florida International University, Miami
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:26:24 GMT


Call THE ROOKIE BBS here at Sunny Miami, Fl (305) 595-7491
Monthly Online Tournaments with Cash Prizes and 2 BRE leagues are running,
one local and one national! Also, The Best TradeWar 2002 Action and Global Wars

Fidonet 1:135/341 SuperNet , OurNet, and E-link echoes available......
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
From: mcng@lambert.uwaterloo.ca (-=*# Mark C. Ng #*=-)
Subject: RE: !!!!!! CAT-TALK IS BACK !!!!!!!!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 07:19:31 GMT


>> > 
>> 
>> Fuck you and mind your own business, asshole. It STAYS, so FUCK OFF!!!
>> 

>This is the response I got from pr@Tygra.Michigan.COM   - We can only wait for them
>to grow up.......

>Sigh -- Teenagers who know EVERYTHING should conquer the world while they still do.


Wow, haven't seen one of these postings for a while!!!  

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Mark C. Ng     mcng@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca     University of Waterloo
  Sysop of Digital Pixel : (416) 298-1487   Toronto, Ontario.
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: !!!!!! CAT-TALK IS BACK !!!!!!
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 03:29:57 GMT

jp@tygra.Michigan.COM (John Palmer) writes:
>In article <9301211950.AA09430@spirit.aud.alcatel.com> droelke@spirit.aud.alcatel.com (Daniel R. Oelke) writes:
>"This is the response I got from pr@Tygra.Michigan.COM   - We can only wait for them
>"to grow up.......

>Sigh - more BS and lies. The pr account sent no such message, so give it
>up, buddy.

Of course not.  It's yet _another_ forgery.  Do you realize you could
save a lot of money and just disconnect tygra, then let the
"forgeries" do everything for you?   Or was this message the forgery?
-- 
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes.  -- Henry David Thoreau
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
From: ziegler@crchh7a7.BNR.CA (Joseph Ziegler)
Subject: DFW BBS LIST
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:58:26 GMT
Reply-To: ziegler@crchh7a7.BNR.CA (Joseph Ziegler)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.


Could anyone please E-mail me or post a DFW BBS list?  Thanks!


Joseph Ziegler
ziegler@bnr.ca
Please type slow, I'm an aggie
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads,alt.bbs.lists,alt.bbs.lists.d,alt.personals.bondage,alt.sex.bondage
From: bcapps@agora.rain.com (Brent Capps)
Subject: Re: REQ:portland B&D BBS/comm
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:08:56 GMT

an3924@anon.penet.fi writes:

>Hello all.  I am trying to get some information on BBSes or communities in
>Portland Oregon that cater to B&D, S&M, or Bisexuals.  I have a friend who
>as recently moved out there and she is sort of cut off from her electronic and
>"real" friends who are either into the scene or lead "alternative" lifestyles.
>If anybody has any information I <and probably she) would really appreciate it,
>because after being connect, being cut off can be a little trouble some.  
>Thanks for your time and your understanding.

If your friend has internet access, have her drop me some e-mail.
I live in Portland.  Otherwise you can contact me directly on her 
behalf.  For political reasons related to the recent Measure 9 fight, 
the Oregon BDSM community has gone underground.  
-- 
Brent Capps    (B4) htw-c++g+k++s-e++    | "I tried using UNIX once, 
bcapps@agora.rain.com (gay stuff)        |  but I felt as though 
bcapps@atlastele.com (telecom stuff)     |  I was 'bothering' it."
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: Re: A new public InterNet-access site!
From: doug@telerama.pgh.pa.us (Doug Luce)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 22:10:03 GMT
Organization: Telerama
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Alexis Rosen (alexis@panix.com) wrote:
> root@enigma1.com (System Operator) writes:
> >     o InterNet E-Mail: to over 2 million sites around the World 
> Are you guys an internet site, or are you doing UUCP to an internet host?
> It's not clear from your message. (The paragraph above seems to imply FTP
> capability, but I can't find "enigma1.com" in the DNS.)
> If you're on the internet, do you have a floating IP, or did the DNS just
> mess up your domain application?

They're MX'd through PSI (uupsi, I would assume).

You can no longer consider "being on the Internet" a synonym of "being
a TCP/IP host."  I.e. rather than busting on UUCP hosts for using a
fuzzy term like "Internet" in their marketing propaganda, you should
probably qualify your own host as being TCP/IP.  

They are probably implying that you can use an FTP<->mail gateway to
get any file you want.

Doug
Telerama BBS
Dial-in TCP/IP
yow!
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
From: serich00@nx11.mik.uky.edu (stephen e richardson)
Subject: Re: QuickBBS:  Running Multiple Nodes?
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:06:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan16.074610.21119@ncsu.edu> doogie@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu  
(Jeff House) writes:
> 
> The subject says it all.
> 
> Anyone doing this w/ QBBS 2.76?
> 
> How do I go about setting it up?

RemoteAccess

Steve
From: kprastin@lotds.uucp (Ken Rastin)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Followup-To: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: The Land of the Darkside
Date: 28 Jan 93 06:53:26 EST
Organization: The Land of The Darkside BBS * (519)/888-9869


Call

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(519)/888-9869 -=- 1200-9600bps
2 Nodes, 24 hrs a day.
Supporting Amiga and IBM Systems

Usenet News and Email

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From: droelke@spirit.aud.alcatel.com (Daniel R. Oelke)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: RE: !!!!!! CAT-TALK IS BACK !!!!!!
Date: 21 Jan 1993 13:51:00 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

> > >       !! WE NOW GET A COMPLETE NEWS FEED, INCLUDING the CLARINET !!
> > 
> > Please remove this from your add that you insist on post to alt.bbs.ads on
> > what I would consider a way to regular basis.  Everyone who reads it on 
> > even a semi-regular basis knows that you do NOT get Clarinet.
> > 
> > We don't need yet another flame war over this.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> 
> Fuck you and mind your own business, asshole. It STAYS, so FUCK OFF!!!
> 

This is the response I got from pr@Tygra.Michigan.COM   - We can only wait for them
to grow up.......

Sigh -- Teenagers who know EVERYTHING should conquer the world while they still do.

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