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From: faber@loon.cs.wisc.edu (Ted Faber)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: stupid strips
Keywords: dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:00:39 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept

In <1992Apr8.153331.17029@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter) writes:

>hozman@aludra.usc.edu (The Hoz!!!) writes:
>
>IMHO, the most consistently awful strip out there is Sylvia.  I find it
>hard to believe that there's anybody, anywhere, who is amused by it.

	I am almost constantly.  Madison, WI.

	You know the main thing I've learned from the first several
	thousand posts here is that no matter how bad you think a comic is,
	someone seems to like it.  People even defended The Family Circus
	here, which boggles *my* mind.

	Just one more way that it takes all kinds to make a world.

>
>                                          --Steve Stelter
>                                          sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

If His Holiness wants to see me, he can come to my show.
        		--- Madonna, declining an invitation for an
        			audience with Pope John Paul II

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From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: Calvin and Hobbes
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 20:02:21 GMT

M19249@mwvm.mitre.org writes:

>In article <1992Apr14.211720.5157@rsg1.er.usgs.gov>
>ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder) writes:
> 
>>My favorite calvin story:
>>
>>Remember the series where Calvin duplicates himself and the duplicate
>>produces duplicates of himself? So it ended up that there are 5 or so
>>Calvins running around.
>>
>>-Steve-
> 
>Is that the series where the 'good' Calvin is ruining the 'regular' Calvin's
>reputation for naughtyness?
>My personal favorite goes: (Please excuse the verbatim  copyright infringement)
>Panel 1 - Calvin: 'Hey dad, I'll guess any number you're thinking of! Go ahead,
>             pick a number!
>          Dad:    'MM... OK, I've got it.
>Panel 2 - Calvin: 'Is it 92,356,051?
>          Dad:    'By golly, it is!
>Panel 3 - Calvin wide eyed with hair on end staring from the page, speechless.
>Panel 4 - Calvin: 'Wait a minute! You're just trying to get *RID* of me,
>             aren't you?!
>          Dad: 'No, you're psychic. Go show mom.'
>I love this one for its pace, humor, and concept.  It just has enough of the
>right stuff.  The mathematical improbability of panel two does my heart good,
>but the 'Go show mom' is almost as funny.

All of the strips in which Calvin's dad puts one over on him are terrific.

"Look Mom, magic!"
"That's not magic!"

"Boy, Dad sure is smart."
"Why, what did he tell you this time?"

"*IF* I get *A* present?"


...and so on.

                           --Steve "You'd better get your story straight
                             with Mom, Mr. Britannica!" Stelter

                             sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: gummitch@techbook.com (Jeff Frane)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Best Art
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:38:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: techbook.1992Apr9.183829.21297
Distribution: rec
Organization: TECHbooks of Beaverton Oregon - Public Access Unix

jefft@athena.mit.edu (Jeff Tang) writes:


>Bloom County (not Outland)  had the best art of anything on the comics
>pages.  Though some of the sunday C&H are coming close.
>--
>Jeff Tang
>jefft@athena.mit.edu

Don't get me wrong; I loved Bloom County.  And I love Berke Breathed's
cartooning but... Bill Watterson understands the conventions of the
comic (eyes popping out of the head, etc.) and uses them better.  Of
course, he really goes wild on the Sunday strips (sit down with the
collection of Sunday pages sometime), especially the ones in which
Calvin's dream sequences are more "realistic" than the world of the
characters.  This man is Walt Kelly's heir.

--Jeff Frane

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From: faber@loon.cs.wisc.edu (Ted Faber)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Doonesbury (sp?)
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:18:39 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept

In <1992Apr8.154405.21407@javelin.sim.es.com> krogers@javelin.sim.es.com (K. Rogers) writes:

>
>The reason I dislike Trudeau's strip is because it's utterly,
>unrelentingly, bitterly sarcastic. 

	I kind of like that myself :-)

>                                    This is the kind of guy that is
>funny for the first two strips until you find he can only bitch bitch
>bitch and never propose anything useful in return.

	He's said that anyone who gets their politics from the comics page
	is getting what they deserve.  It's not his job to run the
	government or propose solutions, his job is to be funny, something
	I think he does very well.  Your mileage may, and apparently does,
	vary.

>                                                    But my biggest
>gripe is that it lacks any subtlety whatever.

	Oh, I don't know, introducing Bush's professional Clinton "media hit
	squad" by with the tag "located in the abandoned domestic policy
	offices..." and then proceeding on to the fourth panel where the
	"joke" was was pretty delightful...

>(Disclaimer: I'm refering to his early stuff, mainly, as I practically
>never read him these days.  Maybe he's changed into a Yuppie by now,
>for all I know; all I remember is his Nam stuff.)

	The Nam stuff can be a rough ride.  I can easily imagine that stuff
	alienating a reader who didn't agree with his position.

	Did you see any of the Gulf War stuff?  I'd be interested in your
	reaction.

	What I do like about his stuff, is that his characters are very
	well fleshed out.  Being a fan from a long way back, each strip is
	like a visit from a friend.  I think he puts a lot of effort in,
	and produces a solid consistent strip with more than average depth.
	But if you don't share his sense of humor, no matter how well he
	tells the jokes, you won't laugh.

>-- 
>Keith Rogers

"I've got a plan so cunning, you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel."
   -- Blackadder III

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From: izo30@ccc.amdahl.com (Ian O'Brien)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Far Side question?
Keywords: Far Side
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:52:03 GMT
Reply-To: izo30@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Ian O'Brien)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Are there any new Far Sides being done? Most of the current FS
stuff I see on this side of the Atlantic is all old stuff being
repeated or printed in colour (<-- hint as to which side of
the Atlantic I live on!) Someone mentioned a sabbatical...is
this true?

Ian
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From: Iskandar Taib <ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Bad college strips (was Re: stupid strips)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 23:57:23 -0500

In article <1992Apr8.231529.1@acfcluster.nyu.edu| axd7104@acfcluster.nyu.edu writes:
|In article <1992Apr9.005403.23410@spool.cs.wisc.edu|, faber@loon.cs.wisc.edu (Ted Faber) writes:
|||Oh I forgot to mention. The absolute worst strip anywhere on 
|||Earth has got to be something called Victor Spitt - it appears
|||in the local student paper, the Indiana Daily Student. Its sup-
|
|I doubt it.  The worst strip ever had to be once that appeared in the 
|_Washington Square News_, NYU's student paper.  I can't even remember the
|name of it, it was so bad; even the paper's staff couldn't stand it, but
|they ran it because they thought having at least one strip gave the paper
|some legitimacy.  The strip was about a guy, his talking pet frog, and his
|spaced-out sister.  Not one ever made me even smile, much less laugh.  A
|hint on the artwork looked: the frog was always drawn as an oval at the
|bottom of the panel (well, the top half of an oval), with two filled-in
|circles for eyes.  Somebody please tell me that this strip never made it
|out of NYU.  I was actually rather disappointed that they dropped it; it
|always seemed fitting to me that the world's worst college paper ran the
|world's worst strip.
|
|And don't even MENTION _Jim's Journal._

This is another genre altogether. I'd call it the College 
Animals genre, where animal characters go to college and do
college student type things. We've seen them come and go 
here. The last one has a philandering squirrel whose (human) 
girlfriend used to come round with an Uzi to shoot at the 
current one night stand (the gun always went "tue tue tue 
tue tue" for some reason). The current one features a rac-
coon called Winston.

Victor Spitt is supposed to be artsy fartsy surreal, with
perhaps some deep hidden meaning but no one has been able 
to figure out what it was. To me its just random pictures.




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From: flournoy@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Raymond Suke Flournoy)
Subject: Re: Mass sexism and racism in Beetle Bailey
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:26:06 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.185943.8439@hubcap.clemson.edu> hubcap@hubcap.clemson.edu (System Janitor) writes:
>plck@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (David Pollack) writes:
> * The strip whose nastiness REALLY bothers me, however, is Andy Capp.  ...
>
>Nope. Andy Capp never lets me down, I like it almost everyday. ...
>... I love it when Andy gets ``BOP''ed head over heels out the
>door and halfway down the block. 

  No wonder you like it everyday....because this event happens
*everyday*!


--Raymond Flournoy        
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flournoy@cs.stanford.edu         "For reasons I cannot explain
Computer Science Dept.            There's some part of me wants to see 
Stanford University, CA           Graceland"               -- P. Simon


P.S.  I hope that your original post was facetious, and that I was
just too sarcasm-impaired to detect it.  Andy Capp--funny?  Even the
Lockhorns do domestic-violence gags better!



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From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: Re: Comic Strips -- American Cultural Imperialism over Canada
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:28:16 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.004312.1600@cs.sfu.ca> jamie@cs.sfu.ca (Jamie Andrews) writes:

>     Well, with the creation of rec.arts.comics.strips, and the
>debate just started on soc.culture.{canada,usa}, I thought it
>was high time to talk about one of my pet peeves -- American
>comic strips in Canadian papers.

>     Well, there is one strip by a Canadian that I know about:
>_For Better or Worse_, by Lynn Johnson.  But although I don't
>think she refers to the USA, I have never seen any references to
>Canada in that strip.


Besides the others mentioned in this thread, when the family's
next(?)-door neighbors moved in, it was acknolwedged that they were
Japanese-*Canadian*, not Japanese-American, which was the first
indication for me that it took place in Canada and not in the US.  I
also believe there was a reference to Remembrance Day within the last
two years.
-- 
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                         Space Telescope Science Institute
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
From: wharrison@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Subject: Re: The Best Far Side cartoon
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:30:54 GMT

The best Far Side?

"So where's my dinner?...One of the Great MAsters, indeed."

heeheehee

Of course, my friend across the lab votes for CAT FUD.

Scott
From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: The Best Far Side cartoon
Keywords: far side gary larson
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:54:30 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <1992Apr8.035646.16268@hubcap.clemson.edu> trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight) writes:
>warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison) writes:
>>What is your FAVOURITE Far Side cartoon?
>
>Donner Party Memorial - SICK! (but great)
>Trevor Bauknight         trev@hubcap.clemson.edu    ...gatech!hubcap!trev

For me, it will always be the sight of the chickens sprawling everywhere
at the Boneless Chicken Ranch!

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From: pcaster@mizar.usc.edu (Dodger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Willy and Ethel
Date: 15 Apr 1992 18:47:55 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

I don't recall seeing anything here about one of my favorite
strips...Willy and Ethel.  I used to read it in Chicago, but
it isn't carried in the local papers, like the LA Times and
Pasadena Star News.  So I don't know if it still exists.

I DO remember several that were so funny, I cut them out and
shared them with friends.  One that sticks in my mind was
Willy at the gas station getting his car repaired.  The
caption was the mechanic telling Willy that his car had
crossed the line between being a means of transportation, and
a large radio...something to that effect.  The car itself was
funny to look at too.

Another favorite of mine was the time Willy asks his wife
when they were married.  I think he says something like...was
it 10 years, 7 months, 8 days, 5 hours, 3 minutes, and 23 seconds
ago?  And she replies No, it was 10 years, 7 months, 8 days, 6 hours,
8 minutes, and 34 seconds.  He says...Oh, that explains the difference.
Well, it was something like that anyways....really struck me funny
that they would keep track right down to the second.


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From: scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons)
Subject: Re: Arnold (NOT Schwarzenegger)
Organization: Inland Sea
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 03:28:48 GMT

ddebry@itchy.dsd.es.com (David DeBry) writes:

>	A few years ago, a paper here in Utah carried a syndicated strip
>called "Arnold" that I heard was carried by numerous papers all over the
>country.  Does anyone remember it?

>	Was there a compilation book ever made?  The strip was rather
>weird, and the vanilla-type people in Utah had it removed after only a
>few short months of running.  I'd really like to see the rest of the
>strips, though!

I loved Arnold.  I dunno what it was, but somehow he and Tommy just
connected for me.  The Detroit Free Press is usually run by idiots,
but they carried Arnold right to it's bitter end.  There was a nice
article when it was cancelled.  If memory serves, the article said
there was no compilation and none planned.
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From: jameskau@phakt.usc.edu (James Kaufman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Marmaduke
Date: 9 Apr 1992 16:18:21 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: rec
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Hi.  This is my first post ever....  I am writing about the recent (well, now
that I've learned how to post, it may not be that recent) discussion about
Brad Anderson and Marmaduke.  I interviewed him about a year ago for DOG FANCY.
It is true that he does not own Marmaduke, thereby costing him much $$$$ in
merchandising, etc.  But he did not seem to want to end Marmaduke.  He said
that he felt an obligation to his fans, and would continue drawing Maramduke
for quite some time....
While I was never a big fan of MARMADUKE, it was a lot of fun interviewing
Anderson.  He's a nice, grandfatherly type who has lots of stories to tell.  He
told me about how his editor liked an early version of Calvin and Hobbes, but
the powers that be in his syndicate did not, so she rejected it.  But she 
suggested to Watterson that he focus more on the kids and less on the parents.
Anderson has a *huge* dog named Marmalady, who is his inspiration for the
current Marmaduke.
James Kaufman
jameskau@aludra.usc.edu
From: millerj@lambda.ecn.purdue.edu (Snide Pucker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: C & H number one!?
Date: 14 Apr 92 06:55:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: noose.1992Apr14.065533.26928
Organization: Purdue Univ. School of Nuclear Engineering

In article <1992Apr10.234029.289@wheaton.wheaton.edu> dledelen@wheaton.edu (Daniel Lane Edelen) writes:
#>
#>I agree. The problem with Doonesbury is that the humor got angry. Trudeau used
#>to be great at slamming something/someone in a very subtle way. Nowadays it
#>seems to be in-your-face and bitter. The subtlety of the humor was what made
#>Doonesbury the classic it is, simply because not everyone understood it. 
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   Okay, consider it a testament to modern ignorance, but most people
   can't follow Doonesbury now.  Personally, I think Doonesbury is humor
   at a higher intellectual level than the popular Calvin and Hobbes 
   (though I read both religiously).  Kinda like the political cartoons
   of Oliphant...absolutely hilarious, if you are "in the know."

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From: Chuck.Lavazzi@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Chuck Lavazzi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: I Go Pogo
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:22:25 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1992Apr9.205742.10094@eng.ufl.edu> joev@creek.ugrad.ee.ufl.edu (Joseph Versagg) writes:
>
>Hmm,
>
>I haven't noticed the change in names associated with Pogo. In general, I think the strip has really gone downhill recently; and although it is great satire at times, it has _REALLY_ slow periods that are horrible.
>BTW, how long has the new Kelly been in charge?
	What's interesting (well, *I* think it is, anyway) is that before it's
recent reincarnations, "Pogo" wasn't political or specifically satirical as
often as it was funny and/or whimsical.  Folks remember the Pig and Goat 
(Khruschev and Castro) characters and Simple J. Malarkey (Joe McCarthy) because
they were controversial, but if you go back and re-read the paperback reprints
of the vintage Walt Kelly strips (I've got most of 'em) you'll notice that
this was the exception rather than the rule.  And even when Kelly was satirical
he was usually more subtle than not.
	IMHO, some of Kelly's best storylines were almost straight vaudeville
with almost no overt political content at all.

>
>Joe

Chuck

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From: stadler@Apple.COM (Andy Stadler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Ernie Pook's Comeek
Date: 11 Apr 92 21:26:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <kub30fINNcuc@aludra.usc.edu> baruz@aludra.usc.edu (Noan Atoll)
 writes:
>Is this widely syndicated?  I think I heard ONE person mention
>it, and that in reference to C & H.  I get it in the LA_Weekly.
>It's done by Lynda "Quote of the Week" Barry, and, with Carol
>Lay's "Now, Endsville/Story Minute" and Groening's "Life in
>Hell" strips, one of the consistent high points of my week.

Simply, the best.  Seems to be fairly widespread - LA Weekly, SJ Metro,
Village Voice, etc.  Hard to pick up on - the drawing is pretty poor and
the text can be thick.  But it's more subtle that you first realize.  For me,
it took somebody giving me a collection (in a book) which I read and went
crazy over.  Now it's the first thing I turn to.

How Lynda B. remembers elementary school so well, I just can't imagine.  Can
be funny, can be painful.  Always interesting.

Personal favorite:  Marly's Guide To Grooving On Life

--Andy     stadler@apple.com
From: mudcr@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (David C Roller)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Kudzu
Keywords: Southern Humor
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:16:43 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network

I also would like Kudzu information.  What papers is it running in.
Also what Papers Is animal crackers running in daily.  It makes a paper
I know in the Chicago Suburbs on Sunday but I haven't seen a daily since
it left the Chicago Tribune.
Dave
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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Chicago Tribune Comics Section
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 23:09:39 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.033227.22185@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jbs21045@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Joe Sterbenc) writes:
>mudcr@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (David C Roller) writes:
>
I'll add mine...

>>The Far Side                      B- B+ A+
>>Peanuts                           B  B  B
>>Dick Tracy                        B- B- D 
>>Brenda Starr                      C  D  F 
>>Walnut Cove                       B+ D  ? 
>>Fox Trot                          A  A- A 
>>Broom Hilda                       B- C  C
>>Barney Google and Snuffy Smith    F  D  F
>>Sylvia                            C  B  D
>>Geech                             C+ B  C
>>Gasoline Alley                    D  D  F
>>Fred Basset                       C  B  C
>>Amazing SpiderMan                 B+ C  B
>>Mother Goose & Grimm              A  A  B
>>Mister Boffo                      B  A- B
>>Winnie Winkle                     C- D  ? 
>>The Buckets                       A- F  ?
>>Doonesbury                        B- A  A+
>>Blondie                           D+ C  C
>>Shoe                              B- A  C 
>>Calvin & Hobbes                   A+ A  A
>>Pogo                              B- B+ C
>>For Better Or Worse               B+ D- A
>>The Phantom                       C+ D  C
>>Beetle Bailey                     C- C  C
>>Hi and Lois                       C  D  C
>>Cathy                             B- B  D
>>Hagar The Horrible                C  C+ B
>>The Lockhorns                     D+ F  D
>>Gil Thorpe (in Sports section)    B- D  ? 

(I get a different paper here... "?" means I've never read that strip.)

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