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From: bell@comute.enet.dec.com (Shane L. Bell)
Subject: Re: Emplant speed...
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:14:05 GMT


In article <36796@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, rblewitt@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Richard Blewitt) writes...
>In article <16cpbhINN1lk@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> smythe@cats.ucsc.edu (Brian Matthew Aljian) writes:
>>
[stuff deleted]
> 
>>I am guessing, however, that some 80x86 instructions would not map to just one
>>680x0 instruction -- it might take two or more.  This would obviously slow
>>down the emulation.
> 
>My hunch is that most of them can be done on a 1 to 1
>correspondence.  I'm not an expert on the differences between the 2
>processors though, perhaps Jim or one of the software emulator
>writers could enlighten us.
> 
>Rick
> 
> 
>-- 
>_____________________________________________________________________
>_____________________________.sig____________________________________
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>The generic .sig          Rick Blewitt     rblewitt@ucsd.edu

I do know that at least with the 8086(88) you can't move data from on memory
location to another in one instruction which only takes one instruction on a
68000 so therefore I'm sure that the problem of needing more than on
instruction to map a single instruction would only be a problem in the other
direction.

		-- Shane L. Bell

		school - bell@alpha.ecs.umass.edu Sept '92 and after
		work - bell@flails.tay1.dec.com Summer '92
From: smythe@cats.ucsc.edu (Brian Matthew Aljian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Emplant speed...
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:41:41 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


In article <1992Aug12.003521.21598@news.cs.indiana.edu> ekolar@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu (Erik S. Kolar) writes:
>I looked through the original Emplant postings and could not find any mention
>of emulation speed.  Obviously, this depends on which Amiga you are using and 
>its speed.  I would think that the Mac emulation would run pretty close to or
>faster than the Mac IIx on a 3000, because both machines use the same chip.
>However, I am wondering just how good 486 emulation will fare, specifically
>if it will leave the 386SX bridgeboard in the dust by a good margin, or be
>dog slow (i.e. AT equivalent).  Jim or anybody else have a clue?

I would imagine that any Emplant IBM emulation will be, to pardon my language,
butt-slow.  Sure there is some "special hardware" on the Emplant card, but it's
definately not a Bridgeboard!  Emplant will still have to convert the 8088
instructions to 68000 instructions (or do traps like the software emulators
do).  The only thing to Emplant's advantage that I see is that you can plug
IBM BIOS chips into the board -- so you wouldn't have to emulate that, I guess.

I'm no expert on how IBM emulation on the Amiga works (or will work, in the
case of Emplant).  Jim Drew or others -- comments/ideas/suggestions?

-- 
   Brian M. Aljian
   smythe@stallion.santa-cruz.ca.us
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From: atul@Cadence.COM (Atul Srinivasan)
Subject: Amax II Plus software
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:42:18 GMT

Hello,
	Can any AmaxII Plus user out there maintain a RAM disk
across reboots ?

	i.e run AMAX, intiialize RAM disk, shutdown, CTRL-AMIGA-AMIGA,
	restart AMAX, and now recognise PREVIOUS ram disk.

Seems like the Ram disk always gets reformatted on the last step.

Any help is appreciated.

Atul

atul@cadence.COM
From: Dan_E_Babcock@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Emplant speed...
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 20:16:08 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <16c7jlINNfu@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>

>IBM BIOS chips into the board -- so you wouldn't have to emulate that, I gues

CrossPC, and I would assume PCTask, have their own custom BIOSs written in
68000, which is tremedously faster than emulating the BIOS.
This Emplant/486 thread is all nonsense; I hope everyone realizes that.

Dan
From: Wayde_Police@mindlink.bc.ca (Wayde Police)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Help adding memory on 2386 Bridgecard
Date: 13 Aug 92 05:46:55 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

I had a similar problem adding extra memory to my 2386sx Bridgeboard. It seemed
that that extra memory I purchased was not "page mode" type memory (whatever
that is). When it started up it gave the same problem, 640K and 0 extended. The
solution was to turn off page mode and add 1 wait state. The memory should then
be recognized. (assuming the ram is good I suppose) I recommend returning the
ram and exchanging it for ZIPs that are page mode capable. (the system will run
with the other ram but will be slowed down by the wait states.
  +-----------------------------------+
  |  Wayde V. Police                  | Bridgecard + 2500 Amiga Hardware,
  |  Wayde_Police@mindlink.bc.ca or   |   (MSDOS)  ^  (AmigaDOS) Software,
  |  !van-bc!rsoft!mindlink!a774      |           WVP             & Wetware!
  +-----------------------------------+
From: england@milton.u.washington.edu (England)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Emplant
Date: 23 Aug 92 15:29:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug23.152925.29819
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Let's all just face facts...  Here it is the thrid week in August, a
month after EMPLANT'S purported release date, and it has yet to cool
off and condense from it's vaporous state.

Look at it as a blessing in disguise...  It would just turn out to be another
SYBIL that simply doesn't perform as advertised.
From: eirvine@metz.une.edu.au (Edward Irvine, , ,(Oz) 067 73 2039)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Emplant
Date: 21 Aug 92 08:13:27 GMT
Reply-To: eirvine@metz.une.edu.au
Originator: eirvine@metz.une.edu.au

What is the story with emplant?  Last I heard, it was due out
in July. . . .


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From: pholland@iastate.edu (Paul J Hollander)
Subject: Re: ASCII FILE FROM AMIGA TO IBM
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:56:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.062443.3597@desire.wright.edu> fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.000018.409@IRO.UMontreal.CA>, morcos@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Nader Morcos) writes:
>> (Posting for a friend : please reply by e-mail to me Thanks)
>> 
>> I'm using memacs on my AMIGA 2000 to create and edit documents, letters, etc...
>> I then save the file on an IBM formatted disk (I use MSH to mount my ibma:   
>> drive) and bring it over to my office to print it. (Well I don't have a laser
>> printer at home O.K.!)
>> 
>> I found out this week that the IBM uses CR and LF to indicate an end-of-line. 
>> Is there a utility that will translate these and any other special characters
>> (e.g. letters with accents) to the corresponding IBM characters? Or do I have 
>> to do something when I'm editing the file on the AMIGA end?
>
>	If you have a C compiler, it is very easy to write a program that
>	will fix your file.  Someone probably posted a utility to Fred Fish
>	that will do this.  If I see one, I'll post the name, other wise
>	I can post the C program if you wish.

CType in the 200 level Fish disks has some utilities to do this.  Also there's
a shareware utility called TextWeasel that I found on wuarchive.wustl.edu
a couple of months ago.  There must be others, too.  These will change the
Amiga LF to the MS-DOS CR-LF or the Mac's CR and back.  Translating those
special characters are the problem.  I wish someone would write a translator
program that would let me put in my own list of characters and what they 
should be translated into.  I'm tired of finding weird characters in my buddy's
Mac Word file when it goes into my Amiga word processor.  If we keep swapping
files much longer, I may have to write some sort of half-assed translator for
myself (a fate worse than death).  8^)

Paul Hollander    pholland@iastate.edu
Behold the tortoise: he makes no progress unless he sticks his neck out.
From: smythe@cats.ucsc.edu (Brian Matthew Aljian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Emplant speed...
Date: 13 Aug 92 04:40:15 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


In article <63940@cup.portal.com> Dan_E_Babcock@cup.portal.com writes:
>>IBM BIOS chips into the board -- so you wouldn't have to emulate that, I gues
>
>CrossPC, and I would assume PCTask, have their own custom BIOSs written in
>68000, which is tremedously faster than emulating the BIOS.

Maybe CrossPC does, but PCTask (at least the demo version I saw) was extremely
slow on my A3000 -- Norton SI rating of around 1.6.  Is the "non-demo" version
faster?

-- 
   Brian M. Aljian
   smythe@stallion.santa-cruz.ca.us
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From: terjem@stud.cs.uit.no (Terje Normann Marthinussen)
Subject: Re: 2088 and general 2000 problems.HELP
Organization: University of Tromsoe
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 18:21:40 GMT

In article <crystal.714496492@glia>, crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
>I found awrite and aread on my GW Basic disk.
>
>I was also told when I upgraded to 2.04, NOT to reformat my harddisk 
>under 2.04 UNLESS I upgraded my 2088 software or the bridgeboard would
>crash.
>
>My XTBB boots off the harddisk, but I don't know how it does it.  See
>pages 59-62 in the manual.
>
>Hope some of this helps. :>
>
>Crystal
>  ;>

Well, the 2.04 upgrade manual which was included with my upgrade recommend
reformating the hard-drive, but it also recommend you to make a complete 
backup of your system software first as the BB-software installation will
not work correctly under 2.04.

It's not such a big problem though to install these files manually, but
make sure that you know where to put them before you start.

The only real problem is that the PC-Prefs program will chrash under 2.04
so you'll have to make sure that this programm has the correct settings before
you put in the 2.04 rom.

I've also encountered some problems with the amouse and pcdisk sowftware
when using the MMU for rom shadowing on my A2620 card. I was able to get 
my hands on some newer versions those libraries (janus.library and one other
which I don't remember the name of) which are included with the
package so now these tasks runs without any problem.


Terje Marthinussen
University of Tromsoe
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From: uteca036@unibi.uni-bielefeld.de (Ruediger Kaatz)
Subject: Re: XT Bridgeboard & 720K floppies??
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 12:19:11 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld

In article <1992Aug12.155119.1@woods.ulowell.edu> edmondse@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
>Hello,
>
>I have an been unsucessful in getting my A2088 bridgeboard to
>accept a 720K 3.5" floppy in place of C='s 360K 5.25 drive. I've tried
>adding the line "drivparm=/d:0/f:2" in my config.sys file but it doesn't
>seem to realize the disk has 720K not 360K.
>
>If anyone has sucessfully been able to substitute a 720K floppy for the 360K
>variety I would appreciate any advice you may have to offer.
>
>Also, with 2.04 roms in my A2000 (rev 6.2), everytime I attempt to look at
>PCPrefs a meet the guru. Is this also a common problem when using the Janus 2.0
>software?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Eric Edmonds
>UMASS at Lowell
>Dept of Nuclear Engineering
>
Hi! just wanted to say it`s possible to connect a 720k drive. I did it but
its so long ago I forgot how. The second prob the PCPrefs will always crasch
until you get Janus 2.1 that one works again.

bye rudy!
From: tine@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: XT Bridgeboard & 720K floppies??
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:44:22 EDT

In article <1992Aug12.155119.1@woods.ulowell.edu>, edmondse@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
> Hello,
> 
> I have an been unsucessful in getting my A2088 bridgeboard to
> accept a 720K 3.5" floppy in place of C='s 360K 5.25 drive. I've tried
> adding the line "drivparm=/d:0/f:2" in my config.sys file but it doesn't
> seem to realize the disk has 720K not 360K. 
> 
> If anyone has sucessfully been able to substitute a 720K floppy for the 360K
> variety I would appreciate any advice you may have to offer.

Unfortunately, I have not access to my Amiga in this period, in every case
I remember that the solution *was* in adding the DRIVPARM line in the
CONFIG.SYS file. I don't remember the exact sintax, however. Just study
an MSDOS manaul at the DRIVPARM page and you will figure out the solution.

Stefano

Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.emulations:3597 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:14310
From: styx@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Allan Hirt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: A2286 BB FATAL ERROR!  HELP!
Date: 20 Aug 92 05:15:49 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University


I am trying to boot my 286 BB, and the display is giving me a 'Parity
Error on main circuit board - fatal error!'

What should I do?  Reseat the board?

Allan
styx@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu
From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Emplant
Date: 23 Aug 92 14:07:07 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

dtiberio@libws2.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio) writes:

>	Jim Drew said he would send an Emplent board to someone who could
>review it publically and prove it is real. He suggested sending a board to
>Harv Laser, and we have heard nothing posted to this group regarding that 
>from either Jim or Harv, both of whom read this group.

>	I am upset that Emplant is not out. And when it is out, I will 
>still be upset. Too many software and hardware companies have made promises
>that they did not come through on. It isn't hard to send out a test
>board to have it reviewed publically. In fact, he could FED EX a board to
>someone by 11am Monday morning, and we could have a review out on all 
>USENET sites by Monday night. But it probably won't happen.

This is probably a rumor, but I recall Jim saying that he has (or will) 
sent/send an EMPLANT to Amazing Amiga and AmigaWorld for review.  He
also claimed that EMPLANT's ad will appear in the same issue 
the review is in.

Jim, correct me if I am wrong.  Thanks.

BTW, Jim, will you be going to WOC?

Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin
e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Subject: Re: 2088 and general 2000 problems.HELP
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 15:14:52 GMT

I found awrite and aread on my GW Basic disk.

I was also told when I upgraded to 2.04, NOT to reformat my harddisk 
under 2.04 UNLESS I upgraded my 2088 software or the bridgeboard would
crash.

My XTBB boots off the harddisk, but I don't know how it does it.  See
pages 59-62 in the manual.

Hope some of this helps. :>

Crystal
  ;>
From: smythe@cats.ucsc.edu (Brian Matthew Aljian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Where to get sytem disks
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:01:44 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


In article <jdrew.0hnj@cryo.rain.com> jdrew@cryo.rain.com (Jim Drew) writes:
>Actually, the MAC OS is given away (yes FREE) by the MAC dealers in
>Oregon, California, and Washington.  I do not know if this is common
>practice in the rest of the U.S.  I do know that according to Apple's
>System 7 documentation, you are allowed to actually loan out your system
>disks to anyone.

I know you can get System 7 via FTP from "ftp.apple.com".  I'm not sure if
they have System 6.xx on there somewhere.  I remember System 7 being hard to
find (in some obscurely named directory) so don't give up too easily.

-- 
   Brian M. Aljian
   smythe@stallion.santa-cruz.ca.us
From: armstrongmw@cgc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Accelerators for BB
Date: 12 Aug 92 10:10:45 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Cooley Godward Castro Huddleson & Tatum, San Francisco, Ca

In article <14218@mindlink.bc.ca>, Tom_Gowdyk@mindlink.bc.ca (Tom Gowdyk) writes:
> I use a Sota286i Accellerator on mine.  Boosts the speed from around 7 Mhz to
> 12Mhz.  It was very easy to install.  Just plug the board into a slot, connect
> a ribbon cable to BB and install the driver in DOS.
> 
> Tom Gowdyk
> 

Can you tell me what the cost was, and whether you have experienced any
problems at all with it.  

Thanks,

Mike
  Armstrong
armstrongmw@cgc.com
From: wwarner@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Art Warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: World of Amiga, Pasadena, CA, Sept 11-13, 1992
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:26:51 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

Get your tickets now!
Yes folks, that is when you'll first hear/see the AA chipset
and the new hardware releases of "towering" proportions!
(and NO, I'm not talking about that '040 board for the 3000T!)

No flames/questions please.
Just mark my words and hold on to your sox!
-- 
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ex Amiga Student On-Campus Consultant  \X/--\miga makes it happen!
wwarner@en.ecn.purdue.edu             IBM, Apple, Sun, & Next make it expensive!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: rickan@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Mark Rickan)
Subject: Re: Emplant IBM
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 00:56:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.220407.16502@visix.com> brett@visix.com writes:

>> I am asking about the AA compatibility for one
>> 	simple reason.... ***I'd really like to know***
>
>What some people just don't get is, registered developers WILL NOT comment  
>on items under NDA. Simple. If there is a AA chip set or not is a question  
>that anyone can answer, and if a program will work with said chip set  
>is... well, I will leave it at that.

The point remains however, that Emplant has been touted as a system which will
enable users to augment their emulation capabilities with a diverse range of
graphics processors. While the NDA prohibits discussion of items which have
not been made available to the public, it does not preclude discussion of
whether a product is capable of supporting future hypothetical system
enhancements. Perhaps it would have been more appropriate to ask whether
Emplant has been designed with native Amiga platform extensions in mind.

Mark

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From: 8939527@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU ()
Subject: Re: Where to get sytem disks
Organization: school of Mathematics UNSW
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 00:30:21 GMT

In article <CONSP03.92Aug17195247@bingsunn.cc.binghamton.edu> consp03@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Kriston J. Rehberg) writes:
>In article <jdrew.0hnj@cryo.rain.com> jdrew@cryo.rain.com (Jim Drew) writes:
>
>>(Lloyd Sumpter) writes:
>>>I'm kina confused here. Are we talking about the Mac's Operating System
>>>disks? Aren't they copyright Apple Corp? (i.e. you gotta BUY them!)
>>>
>>>--
>>>
>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<semi-YAHOO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                    Lloyd_Sumpter@mindlink.bc.ca
>>>             "Amiga made it - Commodore screwed it up"
>>
>>Actually, the MAC OS is given away (yes FREE) by the MAC dealers in
>>Oregon, California, and Washington.  I do not know if this is common
>>practice in the rest of the U.S.  I do know that according to Apple's
>>System 7 documentation, you are allowed to actually loan out your system
>>disks to anyone.
>
>The agreement states that you must own a real Apple Macintosh computer
>in order to use the system software.
>
>Kris
>--
>Kriston J. Rehberg, POD Consultant          consp03@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu
>Binghamton University Computing Services    CONSP03@BINGVAXA.BITNet
>#include <stddisclaimer.h>                  "Labra lege:  Hackito ergo sum"
>"Your lack of common decency reminds me of a computer" - emacs M-x flame

	Does that make every Amax user (And other emulators) PIRATES ????
I guess so, yet the same people can flame very well. If you look in the book
came with Amax it mentions that it's upto us to licence the software
from apple !!! Sort of like here's the gun there's the target this is how
you do it.  CYAZ
		George
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Subject: Re: ASCII FILE FROM AMIGA TO IBM
From: fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:01:09 EST
Organization: Wright State University 

In article <1992Aug19.175657.17460@news.iastate.edu>, pholland@iastate.edu (Paul J Hollander) writes:
> In article <1992Aug19.062443.3597@desire.wright.edu> fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Aug19.000018.409@IRO.UMontreal.CA>, morcos@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Nader Morcos) writes:
>>> (Posting for a friend : please reply by e-mail to me Thanks)
> CType in the 200 level Fish disks has some utilities to do this.  Also there's
> a shareware utility called TextWeasel that I found on wuarchive.wustl.edu
> a couple of months ago.  There must be others, too.  These will change the
> Amiga LF to the MS-DOS CR-LF or the Mac's CR and back.  Translating those
> special characters are the problem.  I wish someone would write a translator
> program that would let me put in my own list of characters and what they 
> should be translated into.  I'm tired of finding weird characters in my buddy's

	Now this is a totally different problem not related to the Amiga.
	Many word processors, PC, MAC (not sure), use special characters to
	indicate whether text is to be undelined, bold, itallic, etc.  
	These characters generally are not the same from word processor to
	word processor (yes, EVEN on PC clone!).  Your best bet is to export
	an ASCII, or screen image format file from your word processor and
	then import it into your Amiga WP.  You will have to touch up the
	file, but there shouldn't be a lot of funny (really control)
	characters in there.

> Mac Word file when it goes into my Amiga word processor.  If we keep swapping
> files much longer, I may have to write some sort of half-assed translator for
> myself (a fate worse than death).  8^)
> 
> Paul Hollander    pholland@iastate.edu
> Behold the tortoise: he makes no progress unless he sticks his neck out.
> 
Fred Heitkamp, ** Not an organization.  My opinions only **