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From: Boyd <BOYD@UNB.CA>
Subject: RE: zappa as pope on new
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 20:34:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.2203.1200@execnet> "craig zacker" <craig.zacker@execnet.com> writes:

   [On Zappa in "Ren & Stimpy"]

>He has about three lines of dialogue...probably recorded in his car on
>the way to the 7-11.  The rest of the cartoon was superb, though.

   Doesn't it bother you to look forward to something like that and have
it turn out bogus? That's like when I watched "Head" all the way through
waiting for Frank to come back and he never did. Still, I now have
greater respect for The Monkees.   =-]

   Frank: "You should concentrate more on your music."
   Davey: "Why?"
   Frank: "Because the Youth of America is looking to you to
          lead the way."

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From: hx201me@unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Ralph Angenendt)
Subject: Zappa and the Marx Brothers in the Opera
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:05:48 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum Uni-Duisburg


Hi!

Yesterday german TV showed "Marx Brothers at the opera". Ever wondered
where "Take me out to the Ball game" on YCDTOSA IV originally came from?


Yes, that's right! From the mentioned movie. In one scene Harpo slips 
a sheet of Note music into the conductors folder, so that the orchestra 
plays "take me to the ball game" directly after the Overture to 
"Il Trubadore".


bye Ralph
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: Boyd <BOYD@UNB.CA>
Subject: RE: Dweezil's album
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 02:24:44 GMT

In article <Bt9ADp.7Ms@sun3.vlsi.uwaterloo.ca> peregier@sun14.vlsi.uwaterloo.ca (Phil Regier) writes:
>I'd be interested in hearing comments about what people who have heard
>Dweezil's album think of it.  It's not available at my local rental
>store.  The only thing I have heard that I know is him is the guitar
>solo on Whipping Post on 'Does Humor Belong In Music?'

   Well, I haven't seen it, but I guess his album "Havin' a Bad Day" has
been out on RYKO since at least 1988.  Does he have a new album now? I
thought I'd take the liberty of answering your post anyway, just because
I'm interested too.
   As far as music and ability goes, all I've heard other than the odd
guest spot with Dad is one track on the RYKO sampler "Steal This Disc 2"
(I didn't, I bought it at a used disc store), entitled <Electric
Hoedown>.  It's an astonishing flash solo, which sounds like a
synthesizer; but in the accompanying advert material it says "No
synthesizers" on the album.  What gives?? Lots of effect, maybe?
   As far as Dweezil's ability, I recall something Zap Sr. once said (or
perhaps wrote, maybe in "The Real Frank Zappa Book" but I just can't
seem to find it right now), about his own guitarability vs. Dweezil's.
Something like, --I'm not a virtuoso guitar player. A virtuoso can play
anything.... Dweezil is a virtuoso.-- Hmph. Well, of course those
weren't his exact words.

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From: binns@eadric.geophysics (Greg Binns)
Subject: leech and eddie
Reply-To: binns@eadric.geophysics
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 04:14:55 GMT


who are "the phosphorescent leech and eddie" referred to on the CHUNGA'S
REVENGE album?  i notice that (if i remember correctly) some shows from 
about the same era (i.e.,  the 1971 Filmore show) have mark volman and 
howard kaylan on them.  are these guys the aforementioned leech and eddie?
please post what you can about the above people, where they came from, and
what their histories in FZ's bands was.  whoever played the lead groupie on
the LIVE AT THE FILMORE, 1971 album (mark volman, i'm guessing) is absolutely
hilarious.     thanks in advance.

			binns@geophysics.harvard.edu
From: johnm@cajal.uoregon.edu (John Martin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: leech and eddie
Keywords: n
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:43:18 GMT
Organization: Institute of Neuroscience, University of Oregon

In article <168426DE2.JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com>, JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com writes:

>Ah, yes, they are the Phosphorescent leech and Eddie, also known in an
>earlier life as "The Turtles".   But they put out 2 (I think) albums as
>the PL and E.

Yes, indeed, but they released those albums as the Flourescent Leech & Eddie,
did they not?  Speaking of the Turtles, I was surprised to hear that some
people actually believe that "Happy Together" is representative of the
Turtles music! (Well, it *is*, if you can ehar the sarcastic tone in the
song, but I think you pretty much have to have heard their REAL music
to catch it).  If any of you also believe this, I STRONGLY urge you to
immediately find a good used record store and purchase one of their albums!!
_The Battle of the Bands_ provides a reasonable cross-section of their style.

Incidentally, Before FZ, before PL & E, and even before the Turtles, they were
a surf band known as The Crossfires.

I have also heard rumors that Rhino Records is actually formed and run by
these two.  Is this true??

Also incidentally, if you can find it, there is a 12" single called
"Checkpoint Charlie".  This is PL & E also, buit it doesn't say that on
the record anywhere.  This disc consists of four songs that are all 
performed using children's toymakers and a really cheezy little casio synth!
A friend searched for *years*.. and finally found a copy.  Good wax!


-- 
John Martin                                        johnm@cajal.uoregon.edu
Institute of Neuroscience,   University of Oregon,    Eugene, OR,    97402
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: binns@eadric.geophysics (Greg Binns)
Subject: leech and eddie
Reply-To: binns@eadric.geophysics
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 04:13:55 GMT


who are "the phosphorescent leech and eddie" referred to on the CHUNGA'S
REVENGE album?  i notice that (if i remember correctly) some shows from 
about the same era (i.e.,  the 1971 Filmore show) have mark volman and 
howard kaylan on them.  are these guys the aforementioned leech and eddie?
please post what you can about the above people, where they came from, and
what their histories in FZ's bands was.  whoever played the lead groupie on
the LIVE AT THE FILMORE, 1971 album (mark volman, i'm guessing) is absolutely
hilarious.     thanks in advance.

			binns@geophysics.harvard.edu




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From: binns@eadric.geophysics (Greg Binns)
Subject: leech and eddie
Reply-To: binns@eadric.geophysics
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 04:13:38 GMT


who are "the phosphorescent leech and eddie" referred to on the CHUNGA'S
REVENGE album?  i notice that (if i remember correctly) some shows from 
about the same era (i.e.,  the 1971 Filmore show) have mark volman and 
howard kaylan on them.  are these guys the aforementioned leech and eddie?
please post what you can about the above people, where they came from, and
what their histories in FZ's bands was.  whoever played the lead groupie on
the LIVE AT THE FILMORE, 1971 album (mark volman, i'm guessing) is absolutely
hilarious.     thanks in advance.

			binns@geophysics.harvard.edu
From: mcsdc1jcwj@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Dweezil's album
Date: 21 Aug 92 11:33:59 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1992Aug20.184410.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>, gvacano@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
> In article <RAIVIO.92Aug20092513@robocop.hut.FI>, raivio@niksula.hut.fi (Perttu Raivio) writes:
>> In article <Bt9ADp.7Ms@sun3.vlsi.uwaterloo.ca> peregier@sun14.vlsi.uwaterloo.ca (Phil Regier) writes:
>>>
>>> I'd be interested in hearing comments about what people who have heard
>>> Dweezil's album think of it.
>> 
>> 	Actually, Dweezil has made at least 3 albums, "Havin' a Bad
>> Day", "My Guitar Wants to Kill Your Mama", and "Confessions". The first
>> one isn't very good IMHO, but Confessions is. There's a great version
>> of the BeeGees' Stayin' Alive with about 7 guitarists sharing solos and
>> Donny Osmond, that's right, you heard right, "little" Donny Osmond on
>> vocals.
>> 
> 
> Confessions has its moments, but is, IMHO, just ho-hum, in spite of
> excellent production values, and some very good guitar work. The lyrics are the
> most disappointing. Ninety percent of the songs are of the "boy meets girl and 
> wants to bleep her" pop song variety. If possible, listen to it before you but
> it.
I haven't heard Having A Bad Day , but MGWTKYM is a drag . It really is pretty

banal . But Confessions , oh wow man . It really is good . Not one for a 

serious listening to , but a great one for waking up with . And for parties .

Nuno Bettencourt fans will love it . And Staying Alive is definitely the real

highlight if the album . Guess which solo is Steve Vai on it . And also 

The Return of the Son of Shoogagungagunga  is excellent .
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From: binns@eadric.geophysics (Greg Binns)
Subject: leech and eddie
Reply-To: binns@eadric.geophysics
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 04:13:47 GMT


who are "the phosphorescent leech and eddie" referred to on the CHUNGA'S
REVENGE album?  i notice that (if i remember correctly) some shows from 
about the same era (i.e.,  the 1971 Filmore show) have mark volman and 
howard kaylan on them.  are these guys the aforementioned leech and eddie?
please post what you can about the above people, where they came from, and
what their histories in FZ's bands was.  whoever played the lead groupie on
the LIVE AT THE FILMORE, 1971 album (mark volman, i'm guessing) is absolutely
hilarious.     thanks in advance.

			binns@geophysics.harvard.edu




Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: binns@eadric.geophysics (Greg Binns)
Subject: leech and eddie
Reply-To: binns@eadric.geophysics
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 04:14:21 GMT


who are "the phosphorescent leech and eddie" referred to on the CHUNGA'S
REVENGE album?  i notice that (if i remember correctly) some shows from 
about the same era (i.e.,  the 1971 Filmore show) have mark volman and 
howard kaylan on them.  are these guys the aforementioned leech and eddie?
please post what you can about the above people, where they came from, and
what their histories in FZ's bands was.  whoever played the lead groupie on
the LIVE AT THE FILMORE, 1971 album (mark volman, i'm guessing) is absolutely
hilarious.     thanks in advance.

			binns@geophysics.harvard.edu




Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: binns@eadric.geophysics (Greg Binns)
Subject: leech and eddie
Reply-To: binns@eadric.geophysics
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 04:14:04 GMT


who are "the phosphorescent leech and eddie" referred to on the CHUNGA'S
REVENGE album?  i notice that (if i remember correctly) some shows from 
about the same era (i.e.,  the 1971 Filmore show) have mark volman and 
howard kaylan on them.  are these guys the aforementioned leech and eddie?
please post what you can about the above people, where they came from, and
what their histories in FZ's bands was.  whoever played the lead groupie on
the LIVE AT THE FILMORE, 1971 album (mark volman, i'm guessing) is absolutely
hilarious.     thanks in advance.

			binns@geophysics.harvard.edu
From: zaphod@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (clifford.m.weiss)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: R&R Hall of Fame
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:21:40 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <jpurlia-130892121856@129.46.5.45> jpurlia@qualcomm.com (John Purlia) writes:
>So... since Frank's name appears on the ballot for this years Rock & Roll
>Hall of Fame, what do you think his chances are of being inducted?
Slim.

>How is Frank and his music portrayed in the eyes of the voters?
As part of the fringe, WITH NO COMMERCIAL POTENTIAL! ;)

>Would he show up for the induction ceremony? 
What could be more preposterous than an award for work(s) of art?
Besides why should he waste any amount of time, when he could be sitting in
front of the synclavier, composing? :)
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From: Boyd <BOYD@UNB.CA>
Subject: politics an' music
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 16:23:11 GMT

In article <Bt0L4I.5vI@chinet.chi.il.us> katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago) writes:
      [apology, other, deleted]
>I am *really* looking forward to the Republican convention. I'll be
>watching closely.

Just to spin back to a music orientation, if you have MTV in your area,
you'll be graced with coverage of the convention by none other than Ted
Nugent.  He said, if MTV is smart, they'll use him extensively during
the convention; but he'll do a wonderful job no matter what they do.
                    ~~~~~
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From: Boyd <BOYD@UNB.CA>
Subject: RE: YCDTOSA 5 & 6, cancel that last request...(cont'd)
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 00:39:54 GMT

In article <12AUG92.22173486.0056@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA> I said some stuff, writes:
and then got cut off.  THe long and short of it is, I now want to order
direct from RYKO if I can find the address again.  Or if somebody has a
phone number for RYKO, I'd appreciate receiving it, Email-wise.  Thanks,
in advance.
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From: binns@eadric.geophysics (Greg Binns)
Subject: leech and eddie
Reply-To: binns@eadric.geophysics
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 04:13:29 GMT


who are "the phosphorescent leech and eddie" referred to on the CHUNGA'S
REVENGE album?  i notice that (if i remember correctly) some shows from 
about the same era (i.e.,  the 1971 Filmore show) have mark volman and 
howard kaylan on them.  are these guys the aforementioned leech and eddie?
please post what you can about the above people, where they came from, and
what their histories in FZ's bands was.  whoever played the lead groupie on
the LIVE AT THE FILMORE, 1971 album (mark volman, i'm guessing) is absolutely
hilarious.     thanks in advance.

			binns@geophysics.harvard.edu




Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: jdb@mudshark.att.com (Joseph D. Balshi)
Subject: Re: leech and eddie
Organization: Bell Laboratories
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:13:15 GMT

In article <natola.15.713719315@coos.dartmouth.edu>, natola@coos.dartmouth.edu (Mark A. Natola) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug13.041421.23334@das.harvard.edu> binns@eadric.geophysics (Greg Binns) writes:
|> >From: binns@eadric.geophysics (Greg Binns)
|> >Subject: leech and eddie
|> >Date: 13 Aug 92 04:14:21 GMT
|> 
|> 
|> >who are "the phosphorescent leech and eddie" referred to on the CHUNGA'S
|> >REVENGE album?  i notice that (if i remember correctly) some shows from 
|> >about the same era (i.e.,  the 1971 Filmore show) have mark volman and 
|> >howard kaylan on them.  are these guys the aforementioned leech and eddie?
|> >please post what you can about the above people, where they came from, and
|> >what their histories in FZ's bands was.  whoever played the lead groupie on
|> >the LIVE AT THE FILMORE, 1971 album (mark volman, i'm guessing) is absolutely
|> >hilarious.     thanks in advance.
|> 
|> 
|> Flo and Eddie are Howard Kaylan and Mark Volman, formerly of the TURTLES.  
|> After they split with FZ, they went on to record a bunch of albums 
|> together as Flo and Eddie.  They were touring a couple of years ago as the 
|> TURTLES again!
|> 
|> Mark


Last year they were DJ's on WXRK (k-rock) in New York. This is the
same station that Howard Stern does his simulcasts from. Howard would
constantly make jokes about them.

				-Basil

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From: srm1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (steven.r.marcovici)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Zappa as Pope on new Ren & Stimpy
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:13:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T


The subject line pretty much says it. This Saturday (8/15) at
9:00 PM EDT a new Ren & Stimpy cartoon will premiere with Frank Zappa
providing the voice of the pope.

-Steve  srm@garage.att.com
From: fox-r@neuron.cis.ohio-state.edu (The Guitarist From Hell)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: leech and eddie
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:19:33 GMT
Reply-To: fox-r@cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Originator: fox-r@neuron.cis.ohio-state.edu



   who are "the phosphorescent leech and eddie" referred to on the CHUNGA'S
   REVENGE album?  i notice that (if i remember correctly) some shows from 
   about the same era (i.e.,  the 1971 Filmore show) have mark volman and 
   howard kaylan on them.  are these guys the aforementioned leech and eddie?
   please post what you can about the above people, where they came from, and
   what their histories in FZ's bands was.  whoever played the lead groupie on
   the LIVE AT THE FILMORE, 1971 album (mark volman, i'm guessing) is absolutely
   hilarious.     thanks in advance.


Because of legal issues, when Mark Volman and Howard Kaylan first joined 
Zappa's band, they had to use a pseudonym and thus, the phosphorescent leech 
and eddie were born.  I'm not sure where the names came from, but in
subsequent albums, they shortened it to Flo & Eddie, and those names
stuck for future solo efforts by the singing duo.

They originally came from the very popular 60's band The Turtles (as
did Jim Pons, the bassist who also joined Zappa's band at about the same
time).   THe story goes like this:  During the famed 1970 concert of
Zappa with the LA Phiharmonic (conducted by Zebin Metha (sp?)), Mark and
Howard were in the audience.  After the show, they approached Zappa and
told him that they were big fans, and since the Turtles had just broken
up, they were looking for something to do.  Zappa had disbanded the Mothers
and was looking to put a new band together, so he took on Mark and Howard,
using their pseudonym Flo and Eddie.  They recorded 4 albums together and
then Zappa broke up the band in Dec 1971 after he had suffered a broken
leg from being pushed off stage by a maniac from the audience.  

This band has been panned by many Zappa fans as being comedic rock with
little musical value.  I differ because I like most of what this
band did especially the rock songs on 200 Motels and the excellent live
album Just Another Band From LA.  Its funny to note that this band covered
the Turtles' song Happy Together, one of the best tunes off of Live at
Fillmore.

			   binns@geophysics.harvard.edu


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"Ladies and Gentlemen, Larry the Dwarf.  Lets ask him why he is
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From: jry@reef.cis.ufl.edu (John Young)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Rare ZAPPA CD for sale
Date: 18 Aug 92 06:25:43 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

I have a Zappa 2 CD set titled "Leatherette" for sale.  Most of the tracks 
come from an unreleased Warner Brothers LP originally scheduled to be
released as "Leather".  I was originally selling this for $50 due to the
outstanding sound quality and sheer rareness (read: BOOTLEG) of the CD...but
now I am willing to part with it for $35.00.  I only have one of these
so please don't waste time fooling around if you want it!  

John Young
jry@reef.cis.ufl.edu


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From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Subject: guacamole queen
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:02:43 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

In <77579@ut-emx.uucp> jamesmc@ut-emx.uucp (James McCartney) writes:

>ObZappa:
>   I saw Zappa 3 times here in Austin, the best place being at the
>Armadillo World Headquarters in 1980or1981 (dont remember). This was
>the place where 'The Muffin Man' was recorded in '75 and was later
>torn down amidst much grief to build a parking lot for a bank which
>went under during the period of Texas bank and S&L disasters. The 
>Armadillo is also mentioned in Inca Roads 'guacamole queen at the
>Armadillo in Austin,Texas'. Anyone know who the guacamole queen is or
>what is referred to here?

As a matter of fact, I do.
My friend has a bootleg from the armadillo circa 72-73, and they perform
Inca Roads without that line.  Why, because the Guacamole Queen was a
little mexican eatery or vending stand or some such at the Armadillo in
Austin, Texas.  

Why make a lyric out of it?  Because touring can make you crazy.
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