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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Friday, 11 Dec 1992 09:06:54 MST
From: <IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Letter from SSH
 <19921207172252EFS6MEF@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>

Beth writes:
>>If I have one wish, other than that they keep her naturally, I
>>hope that she and Doug will get back together and she will go back
>>to Europe to start over with him.  What do you think my chances are?
>>Of course I'll still come here because I can't do without you guys,
>>but that's different. :-)
>>
Razzie writes:
>Well, Beth, at least one wish might come true.  I understand TPTB
>wanted to simply have Julie get a letter from Doug saying he was dying
>and Julie would leave for Europe.  But SSH apparently held out for
>Bill's one-day return.  Nothing is finalized, but it looks like we
>might see a one-day reunion.  Frankly, my fervent hope is that if all
>our letter writing does not save SSH, that the one-day ratings for the
>Doug/Julie reunion move the show to number one, then when the last
>remaining class leaves, the ratings sink back to their usual dismal
>8th place...  I will probably give up of DOCL if SSH leaves, I've had
>it with the on-going stupidity.  But I will never give up r.a.t.s,
>you guys are the best.

I write:
Doug back?  Yippee yahoo.  Hey, even if it's only for 5 minutes it'll
be a tape to save.  Razzie, I really like your idea.  Let's all work
to have those ratings go way, way up on the reunion day only to
drop *can we say to the bottom, below 8?*  I think this would have
a super great impact on how we (and others) folks feel about the letting
go of one of the best actresses that ever appeared on this now rotten,
get a life program.

A anxiously awaiting the short return of Doug QUince

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From: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Camp)
Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN: Happy Birthday!
Organization: Denver, Colorado
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:57:57 GMT

>Happy Birthday to you!
>Happy Birthday to you!
>Happy Birthday Dear Canty!
>Happy Birthday to you!
>
>have a great 22nd! 
>
>Luv, 
>
>The Big Banana

That goes for me too!  Hope you have a great day!

Pick

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From: mins@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (timothy.j.mizerak)
Subject: Re: DOOL:  That damned wedding
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:24:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.171809.14318@cbfsb.cb.att.com> kjs@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (kelly.smith) writes:
>
>Hello everyone.  I was nearly blown off the face of the
>earth on Friday.  How did anyone else from Jersey fare?
>Tim, Beth?


Not bad, I suppose.   I couldn't get out of my apartment on the first
try.  I pretty much got blown right back in the door.  So, I poured some
coffee and put on Days.   Not a bad way to start the day, I must say!  :)
Seriously, I hope everyone out here in the Northeast made it through the
storm okay.   What we got was nothing compared to some of the stuff I've
heard about!


>Anyways, my gripe (surprise surprise):  Why didn't Marcus
>walk Carly down the isle?  Isn't he supposed to be one of
>her best friends?  


Like some others have said, I liked the idea of Carly giving herself
away.   It seemed to make sense considering that there really isn't
a father figure in her life.  And besides, it goes along with what is
supposed to be a modern-thinking character.  Not that there is anything
at all wrong with the idea of being "given away", but shirking tradition
is okay too. 


>I know Marcus is on a day to day thing,
>but really.  He was there after all.  BTW, since when does
>Marcus wear glasses?


Since he lost his contact lenses????   :-)


>Boysies

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From: nina@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Shenina Louise Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Y&R: Vic the Dic & Jill
Date: 16 Dec 1992 00:20:30 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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Originator: nina@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

          Can anyone please give me an update on what happened with 
Jill/John/Vic on Tuesday, Dec. 15?  I haven't been able to follow, but
I saw a recent posting that stated that John has asked Jill to move back 
in with him.  Is this true?  If I haven't forgotten, Jill moved out of the
house with John BECAUSE he did not marry her!!!  It seems as if John hasn't
learned from his mistakes!  I think that he and Jill should finally get 
married!!!  Jill deserves it Now!  I can't believe that she did the "wild
thang" with Vic the Dick!  Wait `til Jack hears about this!  I think it's
about time Victor is on his own....what a slime!!!
	I'm also tired of Olivia!  What I B*tch!  I think that the recent
postings that said that she and Neil deserve each other are right!  Neil
is such a rotten hoe!!  I don't think that Dru should change herself for him!
What about Dru and Blade?  Maybe that would be a firey couple!!!

	Oh, and Lauren!  What another whore!  what happened to "Hiv: the 
virus that causes Aids!!!"

Any thoughts?  
----Nina
  
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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 08:55:39 -0500 
From: Liz Fox <lf01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: DOOL: TAN: Happy Birthday!


Happy Birthday to you!
Happy Birthday to you!
Happy Birthday Dear Canty!
Happy Birthday to you!

have a great 22nd! 

Luv, 

The Big Banana
From: mike@scbked.larc.nasa.gov (Michael S warner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: ATWT: Trivia #9
Date: 14 Dec 1992 18:42:24 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
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Keywords: WHOAKim

In article <mcmahon.203@nd.edu> mcmahon@nd.edu (Sheila M. McMahon) writes:
>In article <1gg70qINNfd5@rave.larc.nasa.gov> mike@scbked.larc.nasa.gov (Michael S warner) writes:
>
>>6) As for Tom's campaign manager the first time... I think it was WHOAKim! 
>>Before Patterns when she had nothing to do.  There's a trivia question for
>>you, IGoT -- what has Kim Hughes ever done with her life besides "Patterns"
>>and getting married.
>
>Oh come on EtTu, ask me something I don't know!!!
>She was a nightclub singer!!! That was before she came to Yuckdale!!

Yes, my dear, but she's been in Yuckdale for 20 years now at least.  Has she
ever had gainful employment IN YUCKDALE before Patterns?  And what brought
her to Yuckdale in the first place?

>Irish

Try that one on for size!

EtTuMike
From: san7675@zeus.tamu.edu (STEPH)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: ATWT:Bye For Now
Date: 17 Dec 1992 14:32 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Well wardees, I'm off for break now... finals are over, and I'm soooo happy.

Pulled a 3.0 this semester!  (Whoop! <-- Aggie expression of great joy)

I'll try to log in from home, but it could get expensive... so I'll probably
see y'all in about a month!  Happy Holidays!

Dragonet
(Steph)

P.S... if we're doing that postcard thing, my address at school (where first 
class mail will be forwarded - I don't know about postcards) is PO Box 13245,
College Station, TX 77841.  Home address is 2402 Shadow Cliff, San Antonio,
TX 78232.  Stephanie Newman, btw.  Let me know what's up!

Steph
From: kristyp@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kristy Patterson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: New Pictures - Updated list
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:52:31 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <1992Dec15.174648.10140@u.washington.edu> lcheap@cac.washington.edu (Laurel Cheap ) writes:
>
>Here's the updated list of introduction pictures with these changes:
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>AMC Introduction - Picture Identification             last updated: 12/15/92
>
>phase to Derek Frye on left, Mona Tyler on right
>  Mimi Reed slides onto Derek
>  Angelique Marick slides onto Mona
>  Charlie Brent slides in between
>
>-Laurel

Thanks, Laurel!

Am I the only one this configuration (above) never made sense to? Why aren't
Derek and Mimi with Livia and Terrence, et al, and what does either of them
have to do with Mona or Angelique or Charlie?  Why isn't Charlie with the
Martins?  Angelique with Dim and/or Edmund and/or Jack?  I guess they just
wanted to have the "studs" at the end, but this group seems to be the epitome
of "miscellaneous."

This has bugged me for awhile!  Every time I see Derek and Mona next to each
other, all I can think is "WHY??"

-Kristy

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From: n2413@cray.com (Jo Theis)
Subject: Re: ATWT: Trivia #8 Answers
Reply-To: n2413@cray.com
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:37:27 CST

In article 4504@cbnewsj.cb.att.com, roxy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (r.prisco) writes:
> 
> Irish, love your trivia tests!
> 
> I was wondering .... did Chilly and K-Lip ever get together in either of their
> sordid pasts????

Oh, yeah!  (Here's that Hol'dumb pattern coming again...)  Their "getting together,"
as you so delicately put it, is what drove Hol'dumb to marry Angel.

I think we ought to construct a list of these types of events that precipitate 
other events.  Hol'dumb seems to be the main one who never acts, only reacts, but
there must be others.  Come to think of it, this is getting to be a rather tiresome
and lazy plot device on the part of the writers, don't you think?  I mean, any 
time someone "gets together with" or allegedly "gets together with" someone else, 
it causes a chain reaction of bad marriages/relationships/bed mates/whatever.

I'm crabby today.  I'll quit now.

Bye.

- JlJ


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From: jackie8@dasher.cc.bellcore.com ()
Subject: Re: KL: Ted Shackleford
Organization: Bellcore - Piscataway, NJ
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 21:29:36 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.170707.24985@midway.uchicago.edu> karen@gargoyle.uchicago.edu () writes:
>I saw Ted Shackleford (sp?) on the Tonight show the other night,
>and he hinted that Knots might not be cancelled after all.

Good!  Rumors like this (that it might *not* be the last year)
started when the new writers took over this year and the saving
it got from near-cancellation this past season.

>He said the decision to cancel it had been made, but the ratings have been
>very good (better than LA Law) and all the actors took a pay
>cut.  He wants to continue, and he said "write letters"

I'm all for this.  We should do this with all of us on the net.
We should all make a promise to write at least one letter this
year to the CBS execs.  

>He also said that "Val" way probably gone for good, but they didnt
>find her body......

Oh pah-lease.  Maybe she did get out of the wreckage, became
"Verna" (wasn't that her name), got plastic surgery, and will return
to KL at the end of this season claiming to be Valene's evil twin. ;-)
:-) :-)

>-Karen
>
>My boyfriend called me up at 9:30 on Thurday, so I missed half the show!  Sniff!

HEY! That's not right! You need to call him during the playoffs
of his favorite sport. I don't know about you, but my BH knew better
than that. That would have spelled disaster for our relationship for
him to interrupt KL.  :-)

Jackie
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From: shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan R. Hagan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Mrs. Bo Brady?
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:10:18 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

pefv702@utpe.pe.utexas.edu (Joanna L. Castillo) writes:

>In article <1992Dec13.033130.4865@cgrg.ohio-state.edu> , demetri@cgrg.ohio-state.edu
>writes:

>So...she didn't actually say Mrs. Bo Brady (unless she said it in some
>other part of the show and I just totally missed it -- I hope I didn't

She said it to Bo when they were wandering around the Mall the night
before the wedding.  Also, as she's in the car with Lawrence on her
way to the airport, she cries "I should be Mrs.Bo Brady right now".

>because I *was* paying attention).  And I guess since the wedding is 
>due to be interrupted...she won't ever be called Mrs. Bo Brady.

Thank god.

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Rutgers University Computing Services
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:36:59 -0500 
From: Jennifer Allyson Turner <jt3j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: Chrismas trees

>I always thought that anytime after Thanksgiving was fair
>game for tree-trimming and decorating. I pull out my Chrismas
>music the day after Thanksgiving and gradually start
>decorating my house. In fact, I couldn't see waiting til
>the last minute to buy and decorate a tree -- you couldn't
>enjoyit for very long that way.
> 
>Anyone else want to share their experiences?
> 
>Sus.

In my family, we always put up our tree on Christmas Eve and take it
down on the day after the Epiphany.  So it's up for the "twelve days of
Christmas."  I've always thought Thanksgiving was a little early for a
tree, but we start decorating then (after we take the Thanksgiving
decorations down).
From: lagst15+@pitt.edu (Linda   A Gazerwitz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: IMPORTANT....SAVE SSH
Date: 17 Dec 92 05:58:22 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Great, but please be sure to post the #'s we need to do it.
I for one have lost em.

A.  Lurker

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From: dias@cac.washington.edu (Vivian Dias )
Subject: Re: SB: Boring
Keywords: Everybody
Organization: UW Computing
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:17:29 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.180736.25975@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>, saj@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.suravlas) writes:
|> I don't know about everybody else, but I'm finding SB very boring lately.
|> When I think that the Sophia/Ken story is the most interesting - well,
|> then things are pretty bad.

  Well, John, all I can say is just wait until "Santa Barbara: The Sequel"
  or "The Skit That Ate Pittsburg" hits the tube.  To those of you who
  have been wondering Nancy and Sucheta and I really are working on this
  and it's gonna be a blockbuster!  Unfortunately, Nancy and Sucheta have
  these pesky things called finals that are getting in the way right at the
  moment but come January things will, hopefully, have come together.  
  
 
|> Julia/Mason - I find both their thinking about having a child dumb and
|>               I don't care. Thank god that he has a soliloquy once in
|>               a while.

  I want vintage Julia and Mason.  I don't want this should we or shouldn't
  we nonsense.  No one cares since in a few weeks it will all be history
  anyway.  I'd almost rather watch them zinging one another with one-liners.
  
> 
|> Angela/CC/Ted/Lilly - (Yawn) - STUPID - end it already!!

  What is going on here?  Is Ted using Lilly or is he really so inane that he's
  willing to silently sit by while the woman he supposedly loves marries his
  father?  If he's that dense then maybe Angela should marry CC - B O R I N G!

|> 
|> Kelly/Connor - They have no story except super sleuth and impersonator.
|>                He is second banana to a dog!!

  Now John, I don't know that you can go that far but even I have to admit
  that the dog has been grabbing my attention more than most of the other
  storylines.
|> 
|> Jodie/Micah
|> Andie/Reese - Again, no story and a big waste of talent. They are
|>               appealing with each other.

  See Angela/CC/Ted/Lilly - personally, I have problems telling these eight
  people apart. 
 
 
|> Gina/Lionel - Can't take her attitude. She would probably prostitute herself
|>               in order for her daughter to marry a Capwell.

  She really has become a pain.  
|> 
|> If I forgot anyone, they probably weren't important. I was hoping that SB
|> would go out with a big BANG. Instead we are getting a tiny fizzle!!
|> 
|> John

  I think you pretty much covered all the bases and I agree wholeheartedly.
  Too bad, I wanted a really grand finale and it looks like we'll be lucky
  if we manage to stay awake.

  -Vivian
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From: amy@lloyd.Camex.COM (Amy Lindsay)
Subject: Re: B & B
Organization: Camex Inc., Boston MA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:47:48 EST

In article <1992Dec15.211914.979@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> jgacker@news.gsfc.nasa.gov (James G. Acker) writes:
>smatterings of Elmo and Big Bird.  I'm supposed to have it back by the
>end of the week, but then my parents visit and may actually be watching
>TV while they should be taping B&B and I'm at work.  So updates are AWOL
>until further notice.  Sorrendo.

So, you've MISSED the scene when Brooke finally hit Ridge over the head
with a 2 by 4 saying that the whole reason she was into this Europe deal
was because she thought they'd get back together...  AND she admitted the
"business like attitude" was all an act (I do so hope that Ridge lets
Taylor get to say "I told you so.")

Finally!

Too bad it's not Y&R, or you'd probably have about 6 more chances to see
it.  ("They don't have arcs on the Young and the Relentless, they have
drrraaaggggggsss.")

>: 	 There are two Rules of Life from which all others derive:
>: 		 1.  Don't be stupid.  2. Don't be a jerk.
>
>	Thorne breaks both on a daily basis.

Agreed.

"But she was your SECOND choice, Thorne!"

"Yes, but if I had actually stopped to find out what was happening with
Macy, I couldn't make everyone's life a pure and living hell until next
sweeps week, when, after I have married Karen, I decide it really was a
mistake and I have to go through another divorce, but by this time Macy
thinks I'm a total schmo and has gone off to find Jim Acker's clone..."

(Maybe Brooke should name the baby "Rill," if it's a girl.)

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From: ckile@andy.bgsu.edu (crystal kile)
Subject: SIS:Teddy&AIDS (spoiler)
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 06:47:38 GMT


Hi guys --

	I'm a pretty faithful fan of Sisters, but the overload of "Drama in
Real Life" (Reader's Digest reference...) stories is getting to be a bit, um,
much.  Like, every other week a character faces a seriously life-threatening
or mental health-threatening or family-rending conflict.  

	Now here comes the "Teddy and HIV" story.  Actually, considering
what we know of Teddy's pre-rehab life, I'd expected this one sooner.  I hope
that the promos are just designed to jerk us around, that Teddy has not had
unprotected sex with the William Katt character sometime during the past
decade.  Or that if she has, the test comes back negative.  Maybe we should
write postcards to NBC demanding in bold letters:
		TEDDY REED AS TINA CHOW? NOT!!!!!

	What do you guys think?  How are the writers going to play this one?
We know that Teddy and the guy were great friends twenty years ago (in art
school?).  We see Teddy freaking out, her face crumbling, and the announcer
saying something like "...And now she could lose it all!!"

	I think that scaring the shit out of Teddy (who may or may not be using
condoms with Simon Bolt) is a great idea, but instead of more Reed-doom, let's
hope it's a "there but for the grace of..." story.

	Another thing, if Sisters introduces this HIV+ character (we are not
sure if he has AIDS or ARC or what), the character should become a recurring
character & we should see Teddy getting compassionate and mad.  If she is in
the art world, after all, this is prob. not the first friend she faces
losing to the disease.  She can use her new status and success as "Theodora
Reed" as a platform for activism and fund raising.  (Whatever happened to 
Georgie's kid's gay teacher???)

					There's my vent.
					 Crystal Kile
					 Dept. of Pop Culture
					 Bowling Green State U., Ohio
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From: mona@scubed.com (Mona Ellis)
Subject: Re: DOOL: The Fancy Face (was: the music box)
Organization: S-CUBED, A Division of Maxwell Labs; San Diego CA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:50:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.152446.11780@news.eng.convex.com> jgreat@convex.com (J L Greathouse) writes:
>
>Hey, Wait.  Was I dreaming the same dream too, then? I could swear I
>remember Butthead changing the name of the boat after Hope (can't say
>*died* - I'm still in denial about that) went away. Doesn't anyone
>else remember this?
>
>Janet

  My "dream" was slightly different.  I thought the Fancy Face was
  burned (maybe by Victor when he was out to kill Bo).  Anyway, I
  think The Princess is a completely different boat.

  mona


  .

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