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From: weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: FLIRTING AS AN OLYMPIC DEMONSTRATION SPORT
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:52:19 GMT
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1993Jan11.223007.19237@walter.bellcore.com> tjj@nomas.bellcore.com (J Tim Jordan) writes:
>Sounds good. Actually I saw, on a talk show, a person who runs a 
>flirting class in New York City. She was also saying that it's
>a lost art. Can any body help me with the do's and don'ts of flirting?
>
That was probably Sharon Wolfe. She has a book out, not about flirting
exactly, but on meeting MOTAS. It is called '50 ways to find a lover'
or something like that.

To me, flirting is an end to itself, like social dance. Some of 
the women I have dated have loved to flirt, others don't like
it. Flirting, like jokes, can be used to make a tense situation
more comfortable, but only if the other person is comfortable 
with flirting. Since I like to flirt, I find that I often have
to tone it down when trying to meet someone new, or I will make
them uncomfortable.

>Like does one go directly from eye contact to a pick up line?
>
Pickup lines are for pickups. They are good if you are looking to
spend a minimum amount of time finding someone who is predisposed
to being picked up. If that is what you want, fine. But if you are
interested in starting something with a particular woman, then
a gentler approach will be more likely to succeed. You still need
an opening line, but it can be innocuous. I personally like the
'no frills' approach: "Hi, how are you doing? My name is Michael.
Are you enjoying (whatever the event is)?". Really, the idea is
to get a conversation started. A first impression is not formed
at first sight, but over the whole first meeting, so don't feel
you have to impress her with your very first words.

>I personally wish that there were some inbetween steps like
>after eye contact one player would stand on his or her
>chair and pat their head while rubbing their stomach. That way
>one would know for sure that the misses is interested and ones
>confidence would be higher for the initial approach.
>
As a man, you can expect that you will have to take all the risks in
going from strangers to a relationship. If she will stick your neck out
for you, great. But don't expect it. You have the right idea about
breaking it down into small steps. 

You can make it more likely that there are inbetween steps by
choosing the situation. This is why I don't think bars and clubs are
very good places to meet people. If you get to know people through
hobbies and activities, the two of you will get to know a little about
each other before you ever deal with each other one on one.


>	Tim
From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Meeting women in clubs
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:21:05 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1993Jan4.170650.2556@merrimack.edu> nin15b63@merrimack.edu (The Wolf) writes:
>It can help to approach one of the friends, particularly if one of the friends
>is a guy.  It will relax you to talk to someone you are not trying to attract, 
>first.  It will give her the impression that you are not hitting on her.  It
>will afford you the opportunity to use the friend as a bridge to meeting the
>person you are "after".

Hmmmm, I remember something like that from my college days.  I really wanted
to meet someone by the time I graduated so I could go home and tell everyone
that not only did I get a degree BUT I met this great guy and we're starting
a business (yeah).  Well I had this really BABE roommate, butt-length pale
blonde hair, great figure, excellent personality, etc.  So we'd be out
somewhere and some really foxy guy would come up and start chatting with ME
(wow!) and I'd think I was going to pee my pants because he actually
wanted to talk to ME and then the bomb would drop when he'd say:  "So, Nancy,
what I'd really like to do is have you introduce me to your friend ..."
and he would very promptly be told to piss off in another direction.

I'd think of something else.
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From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Meeting women in clubs
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 06:43:31 GMT

In article <lkjc76INN2ia@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
>
>I was trying to explain this love/hate relationship that I had with one
>friend of mine to somebody and we decided that we had been married in 
>a previous life -- it had been an arranged by our fathers, we loathed
>each other, and it eventually ended with murder/suicide.  We could never
>decide which one of us poisoned the tea though.

Either that or you two used to be Winston Churchill and Lady Astor....

Trygve
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From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Meeting guys
Date: 12 Jan 93 09:27:20
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
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In-reply-to: pooh@Apple.COM's message of 12 Jan 93 09:16:11 GMT

In article <76519@apple.apple.COM> pooh@Apple.COM (Pooh) writes:

   Well, I wouldn't take just ANY
   MildlyGeekyMiddleAgedOverIntellectualWhiteBoy, but I'd take Charlie
   any day ...

Now, when I'm divorced and you're in Zuerich, NOW you tell me?!
--
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      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
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From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:24:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.102144.25242@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> ron@turing.toronto.edu (Ron Wessels) writes:
>sethb@panix.com (Seth Breidbart) asks:
>>And if you wanted computer advice, but didn't get the appropriate
>>newsgroups, would you post those questions here too?
>
>Actually, with all the self-styled "computer geeks" running around this
>group, it might not be such a bad place after all!
>
>[ Anyone know where you can buy a pocket protector? ]

              EVW.
 
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From: charon@zephyr.cair.du.edu (Spaz)
Subject: The other "half"
Originator: charon@zephyr.cair.du.edu
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 01:35:12 GMT

"What meanest thou by love?" said the Beloved.  And the Lover
answered.  "It is to bear on one's heart the sacred marks of the
Beloved.  It is to long for Him with desire and with tears.  It
is boldness. It is fervor.  It is fear[...]"
                                   -Raymond Lully
                                    (Raymundus Lullus)


I'm looking for the woman who knows the second half to this. 

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Subject: Re: What's the silliest thing hormones made you do?
From: quirke_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 11 Jan 93 11:42:16 NZST
Distribution: world
Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
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[Re: Silly things done while controlling a body under the influence of
hormones]

   Weeeeeeellllll...

   I do recall walking through a shopping plaza one fine summers day, and being
mightily distracted by a well-turned out derriere (what was the word, 
calypigious ?). This fine example of God's artistic genius was but lightly
clad at the time in a summery type of dress, and it was most pleasant to watch.
   Pity. I really should have been watching that pyramid of cans that was
standing in my path.
   Took me about 20 minutes with the help of a salesdroid to repair the damage,
which wasn't helped by the customers standing around and applauding my
prat fall.
   She of the marvelous derriere ? Long gone I'm afraid. *sigh*

Tony Q.
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From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:50:48 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1993Jan5.001418.4956@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:

>Remember, for your purposes, it's not necessary that there be a majority
>of people more interested in intellectual than physical pursuits (not,
>however, that these are in any respect mutually exclusive), but only
>that there be a reasonable number and some way of locating them.
>Indeed, if she happens to be the right one for you, just one is enough.

But for my purposes, the fact that intellectual and physical pursuits
are not mutually exclusive is a drawback.  Just finding someone who
shares my intellectual interests, while not easy, isn't too much of
a problem.  But if she's looking for someone who shares her intellectual
and physical interests, I don't have a chance.


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From: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu (Randy [Java Man] Zagar)
Subject: Re: The Classiest Pickup Lines
Reply-To: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu
Organization: Marine Studies, University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:11:37 GMT

In article 93Jan7130539@grover.cs.unc.edu, martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.141650.9989@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>
>   In article <6JAN199313513483@utarlg.uta.edu> b645zau@utarlg.uta.edu (The Brothers Grimm (Wayne and Ez-E)) writes:
>   >
>   >How about this classic, "Would you like to dance?" and if/when the person
>   >says no reply "No, I said you look FAT IN THOSE PANTS!"...
>
>   I love it!!!  And I'm going to use it!!!!!!!
>
>Oh, Nance, what do you need pickup lines for when I'm still available?

Maybe because she just wants to dance and
her SO isn't (pick one: in the mood, or isn't able).

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/                                                                            \
| Randy Zagar                                 Thinking: that waste of time   |
| Internet: zagar@Chester.CMS.UDel.Edu        between seeing something and   |
| Bell-net: 302/831-1139                      knowing what to do about it.   |
\____________________________________________________________________________/
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:05:07 EST
From: Psycho!! <HOLTONS@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: FLIRTING AS AN OLYMPIC DEMONSTRATION SPORT

>>     Hmmm... are those the ones with the trap door in the back?
>>
>
>   Yes, and the wine cellar.  Care to join me in a toast?


   I'd rather join you in your johns.

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From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: The Classiest Pickup Lines
Organization: Don't blame me, I voted for Bill 'n' Opus
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 17:34:44 GMT

In article <27793@sybase.sybase.com> mysti@sierra.sybase.com (Mysti Rubert) writes:
>Am I the only one who thinks that speaking to a stranger for the
>sole purpose of engaging in sex is *inherently* unclassy?

Now, now, Mytsi, who said that we were approaching her for the *sole*
purpose of engaging in sex?  Maybe we just want to share water.....
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Red shirts finish faster.
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From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Meeting women in clubs
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 23:46:50 GMT

In article <C0I0r9.Ev2@mach1.wlu.ca> macl6441@mach1.wlu.ca (macleod heather) writes:
>In article <MARTINC.93Jan6211148@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan6.223650.19267@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>>
>>   In article <MARTINC.93Jan6112101@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>>   >In article <1993Jan6.064828.3221@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>>   >
>>   >   Trygve   (Next, we'll discuss proper bench-press spotting technique;
>>   >	     after that, we've got some films of improper technique....)
>>   >
>>   >Tryg, having her spotting you from *that* position is *certain* to
>>   >interfere with proper breathing.
>>
>>   Well, it's not without its drawbacks, but that's why I go swimming at 
>>   least occasionally to practice doing laps on one breath.  
>>
>>   Trygve   (Of course it depends on whether I'm doing long, slow laps or
>>	     using short, quick strokes.)
>>
>>Nothing I could possible say would be more of a double entendre that
>>you've embedded in that last couple of lines.
>
>Hey, I'm a swimming instructor, and speaking from experience, I'd have to
>say that long, slow laps make it last longer, but the short strokes get you
>there in a hurry and out of breath!

'Tis true--but I can never decide which I like better; so, I just stick
with doing a variety of techniques.  (At least this way nobody knows 
what to expect....)

Trygve   ("Nobody expects the Spammish Indigestion!")
--
      This is Elise McKenna, here at Wilberton Greens covering Bunjee-Cord
Skiing, Cross-Country Division, a sport that many have termed the most boring
in all existence, beating out even Tiddly-Winks for the Comatose that was
dropped only six hours after its abyssmal introduction at the 1974 Spacial
Olympics.  It's only three hours after the starting gun was fired, and the
contestants still have covered only twenty-seven feet towards the finish line,
thirty miles away in nearby Muttonhead.  I'll let you know if anything happens
here before dark.  Let's go back to Claude Horribly, covering Nude Mudgolfing.
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From: drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max)
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:35:50 GMT

In article <ewright.726774867@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
>
>In <MARTINC.93Jan11095834@hatteras.cs.unc.edu> martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>
>>Look, schmuck, first of all, this doesn't follow UNLESS (a) the energy
>>and dedication used for developing one's mind and one's body are the
>>*same* thing; 
>
>Yes, Charlie, the energy used to develop the body and the
>energy used to develop the mind are exactly the same thing.
>In both cases, they are chemical energy derived from the ATP
>cycle.  Since you constantly brag about how many med-school 
>courses you've taken, you should at least have a passing
>acquaintance with high-school biology. 
>
Yep and the ATP is made in each cell - are you trying to say Eddie, that
one uses the exact same cells for weight lifting that one uses for writing 
a thesis? I think you are the one that needs refreshing in highschool
biology. 

Max
Xref: sparky soc.singles:35831 alt.romance:15862
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance
Subject: Re: Where did you meet your SO?
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:13:24 GMT
Followup-To: soc.singles
Distribution: usa
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1993Jan7.213306.23501@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.194617.8764@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
|> 
|>I gotta love me.
|
|Now there's a pickup line I could die for.  :-)
|
|Well OK, I'll get into this.  I met my twookums right here at work.  I'm
|a senior writer, see, and I was assigned to do a catalog of some new
|products that were designed here at Bell Labs, and the catalog had to
|include photographs so I called the photography department and talked
|to this really-nice-sounding guy and he gave me all this information about
|how photo documentation is done, and we made an appointment.

This reminded me of something I was meaning to bring up.  In Nancy's case the
relationship is with a co-worker (albeit, at a really large company). Actually,
it sounds like "twoookums" is more of a "customer" than a coworker, which
finally brings me to my question.  There are probably many of us that
deal with vendors from other companies.  Sometimes those sales representaives
can be rather attractive.  How does one turn a business contact into a
potential romantic encounter?  Is it a good idea?

 
|(I love you Michael.)

That's sweet, Nance.
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Subject: Re: Her mother wants to kill me
From: quirke_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 11 Jan 93 11:18:07 NZST
Distribution: world
Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
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Gregory L. Woods, Jr. <GWOODS@NDSUVM1.BITNET> writes:

>        I am afraid to ask her mom why she hates me. I have tried a few
>  times to, but to no avail. She says I am destroying her family
>  because I have come into Angela's life and changed her. She
>  spends less time with her family now.

>     [Angela's relationship with her mom] has changed since I started 
> dating Angela. She now spends
> much less time with her mother. Their relationship has also gotten
> more tense.

> Her mom constantly tells her about statistics that say
> those who are abused as a child are more likely to abuse
> when they get older and have a family of thier own. [Thus trying to put
   Angela off him]

> [Angela's (step)father] doesn't say much, the mom does most of the talking.

Greg,
   By no means am I the best person to be making comments, for I have little
experience with this type of situation. But I'll give it my best shot.
   For many people, family relationships become a matter of control. They
derive security by having emotional control over others. Even if they love 
them, they still wish to have everything just as they wish it to be.
   This can be a manipulative child getting his/her parents to do as he/she
wants. But often it is a case of a parent loving his/her child without
realising that the child needs time and space to develop into a fully
independant human being.
   You say Angela's mom had her when she was in high school, and by the sounds
of it, she developed a strong attachment to Angela, making the relationship
the strongest thing in her life ("She swore she'd never let anything get in
between her and Angela"). It is easy to see that you are a threat to her, for
in gaining Angela's affection, you are perceived in diminishing Angela's
affection for her. So too, Angela herself is changing, growing as we all must.
But this is also a threat, for Angela is no longer her little girl.
   Greg, I don't know exactly what sort of advice, if any, I can give you. But
the situation does not appear to be your fault. By the sounds of it, your
relationship with Angela is allowing her to grow, to sever ties with her family
that may no longer be needed, and to make up her own choices.
   Don't give up on Angela because her mother is against you. Instead, attempt
to understand why her mother is scared of this relationship, in the hope that
you can better find a way to overcome those fears. I'd suggest that you try
not to increase the pressure on Angela to make a final decision, as this is
no doubt very hard for her too. It would appear that any answer would lie with
Angela redefining her relationship with her mom, which would mean Angela would
have to do some serious thinking as to what she is feeling, why, and what she
would like to do about it.
   Apart from that, good luck.

Tony Q.
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From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: Re: criteria
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 07:21:17 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1993Jan4.185048.7047@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>I don't think that's necessarilly so--if the person in question refused
>to recognise his/her role in the lack of acceptable mates, then you might
>have a good case, but if someone had requirements essential for him or her
>to prefer a relationship to no relationship and admitted that those 
>requirements were rather restrictive but still complained about it
>occasionally, I wouldn't see that as being hypocritical.

And that's my problem with Shelley's bemoaning of her fate- nowhere have I
yet to hear her admit that her requirements for dating material might be
restrictive. If she has and I missed it, I sure as hell would like to see it.
I certainly don't fault Shelley for having requirements, we all do. Nor do I
fault her for trying, that's she seems to have done. But to blame lack of
success on damn near everything but not admit that the fault >might just<
be ones own- that I take fault with.
r.
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From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Bonjour!!!
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:42:26 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <726835601.29384@minster.york.ac.uk> aaron@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
>veenstra christopher (veen2976@mach1.wlu.ca) wrote:
>: Yeah, well, I know my french isn't what |   Oui, mais je sais que mon
>: it used to be so I really don't think   | Francais n'est pas tres bien puis
>: that I'm qualified to flame him.        | je pense qu'il y est des autres 
>: Besides, my translation is pretty nasty,| que dois le faire avant moi.
>: too.                                    | Et, mes translations, ils ne sont
>:                                         | tres bien, aussi.  
>
>  Hands up those who are bilingual in German and English (I need
>  the pratice)

Well, my French isn't so hot anymore |   Oowelle, mah French, eet ees not
But I do my best.		     | so hot any more, butte ah dew mah
I find it's a great way to pick up   | beste.  Ah fahnd zat eet ees a
men.				     | fab-oo-lous vay tew peek up zee
				     | men.


		

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