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From: jim@accelr8.com (Jim Reiss)
Subject: Re: vms posix
Organization: Accelr8 Technology Corporation
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:18:17 GMT

In article <11@colorne.UUCP> dfilip@colorne.UUCP writes:
>Jim Reiss writes :
>
>>Not entirely non-portable.  Our company has an emulation of many VAX/VMS
>>calls for Unix systems.
>Interesting. Perhaps you could bribe someone at AT&T's Unix Systems
>Labs to sneak it into SVR? ... then it might really take off ! :-)
Doesn't seem like that'd be in our best interest.  Now, if they bribed us...

>>>extras, like the CLI$ and RMS routines, which cannot be supported under an
>>>'Open' system.
>>Yes they can.  We are currently developing a fairly full-featured RMS library.
>
>I assume you are referring to access to individual files, and not a complete
>filesystem ?
I am talking about the ability to use SYS$OPEN, SYS$GET, etc. on sequential,
relative, and indexed files on UNIX systems.  It is possible to bring them
over from a VAX or to create and use them on the UNIX system.
-- 
 Jim Reiss (jim@accelr8.com)    Accelr8 Technology, Denver, Colorado, USA
 Opinions expressed above are mine.  Who else would have them?
From: MORRIS@PATRICK-PIMS.AF.MIL ("Jay Morris")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: How much to charge for CPU time?
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:46:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Brian Tillman (tillman@swdev.si.com) write:
>Hans-Joachim Koch (koch@lifra.lif.de) writes:
>
>>Any real help (not the Ehud-type answers :-) is welcome.
>>Thanks. Hans.
>
>The point of Ehud's message is that what you charge for CPU, tape/disk mounts, 
>pages printed, and all of that is so totally dependent to your own specific site 
>that it is a virtually worthless endeavor for anyone else to decide.

Agree, no one else can DECIDE your rates for you, but a survey of what other
sites, running similar equipment, can provide a sanity check. 
>                                                                    *You* must 
>calculate your overhead expenses and derive formulae that make sense for *you*.

With no experience in the subject, how do you decide if it really makes sense? 
Yes, you add up estimates for everything and get an average.  But how do you
know it makes 'sense'.  An idea of what other sites are charging can HELP you
decide if your rates are reasonable.  If your rates are way off from others, it
might prompt you to take another look at your data.

>
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> Smiths Industries, Inc.     |           tillman_brian@si.com
> 4141 Eastern Ave., MS129    | Hey, I said this stuff myself.
> Grand Rapids, MI 49518-8727 | My company has no part in it.
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From: su@SMUP7.ITODYS.JUSSIEU.FR
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: documents
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:20:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: smup7.00961cb6.6e04288d.2593
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Hi netters,
 Where could I find documents describing with some details heterogenous
lan, involving PC, Mac, Vax and Unix stations? I'm looking for hardware
and software solutions, with attention paid to price-performance ratios.
ftp sites, if they do exist, are mostly appreciated.
 Thanx in advance for any hints.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall)
Subject: Re: Problem with spawn from batch in 5.4-x
Reply-To: marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 18:19:57 GMT

In article <1b4an5INNncc@gap.caltech.edu>, carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) writes:
>In article <1992Oct9.150323.1396@decuac.dec.com>, murphy@burfle.dco.dec.com (Rick Murphy) writes:
>>
>>A guess:
>>You've done a SET PROCESS/NORESOURCE_WAIT somewhere. Don't do that, otherwise
>>SPAWN will likely fail.
>
>'Fraid not.  Under VMS v5.4-2:
>
>$	set proc/priv=(noall,tmpm)
>$	set proc/noresource
>$	spawn show time
>%DCL-S-SPAWNED, process CARL_2 spawned
>%DCL-S-ATTACHED, terminal now attached to process CARL_2
>   9-OCT-1992 08:04:19

Hmmm, according to my experience, and according to the DCL Dictionary,
the DCL SPAWN command *requires* the resource wait state. When I try the
above commands under VMS 5.4 and under VMS 5.5-1 I get a "mailbox full"
error. I remember running into this a while ago when something in our
very long SYSTARTUP.COM was turning off resource wait (from within a
program, no less), and thus clobbering various other things later on
in SYSTARTUP that tried to spawn subprocesses (for example, DECWindows!).
It took me a while to zero in on that one.

Anyway, this has nothing to do with the original question, which had to 
do with exceeding a byte count quota.

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From: jhawk@panix.com (John Hawkinson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: fwrite() in vaxcrtl broken?
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:04:24 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

I'm experiencing this REALLY weird problem with fwrite() to stdout.
It appears to work fine when I run the program, but if I spawn/nowait/out
the program, it sticks a newline/cr/whatever in there!

The application this is used in is using LIB$SPAWN to simulate a Unix
pipe. If there's a better way, please let me know.

I'm using VMS 5.5-1, the latest vax C (3.something?), and gcc 2.2.2.
The problem shows up in both gcc and vax c, so I assume it's a vaxcrtl
problem.

I've culled the relevent fragment so here's that and some examples:
---cut
%PHOTO-I-INIT, Recording initiated at 12-OCT-1992 13:47:53.10
[rcsvax!jhawk] /jhawk.perl# type fwrite.c
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>

int main() {
  char tmps[4];

  tmps[0]='o';
  tmps[1]='k';
  tmps[2]=0x0A;
  tmps[3]=0;

  printf("\n\n\n\n\nfwrite returns %d\n",fwrite(tmps,1,3,stdout));

  return 0;
}
[rcsvax!jhawk] /jhawk.perl# run fwrite
ok





fwrite returns 3
%NONAME-W-NOMSG, Message number 00000000
[rcsvax!jhawk] /jhawk.perl# spawn/nowait/notify/out=foo.out run fwrite
%DCL-S-SPAWNED, process JHAWK_1 spawned
[rcsvax!jhawk] /jhawk.perl# 
Subprocess JHAWK_1 has completed
[rcsvax!jhawk] /jhawk.perl# type foo.out
o
k






fwrite returns 3
%NONAME-W-NOMSG, Message number 00000000
[rcsvax!jhawk] /jhawk.perl# photo/off
---cut here

My newsfeed has been acting flaky for the last 3 days or so, so if you
have a response you're going to post, *please* e-mail it to me as well.

Thanks very much.

--
John Hawkinson
jhawk@panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: schanck@tron.bwi.wec.com (Christopher Schanck)
Subject: Mailboxes & Vax C
Organization: Westinghouse Electric Corporation, Baltimore MD.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:32:15 GMT

Does anyone have any sample code in Vax C using Mailboxes (the
system services I imagine) to communicate between processes?

The examples in the books haven't helped enough, and I need this in
a hurry (my boss isn't certain it can be done).

E-Mail would be best.

Thanks muchly,

C.Schanck

schanck@bwi.wec.com
From: leichter@lrw.com (Jerry Leichter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: TK50 vrs.TK70
Date: 11 Oct 92 21:39:27 GMT
Organization: The Internet


	>>Can you write to TK50 tapes in a TK70 drive, or does its
	>>compatibility only extend to being able to *read* TK50 tapes?
	>>
	>>[...]
	>
	>the TK70 drive can only *read* TK50 tapes. it *can't* write them.
	>
	Actually, isn't it that the TK70 can write to the TK50 tape but not in
	TK50 format?  So if you already have something on the TK50, don't
	write to it, but if it's blank, and you only use it in a TK70, go
	ahead and read/write?  

Almost.  TK50 and TK70 tapes, unlike reel-to-reel tapes (and several other
magnetic tape technologies) have a pre-written synchronization track on them.
Normally, when you get a tape the sync track is already there, and writes to
the tape don't touch it.  However, both kinds of drives can write the sync
tracks - and will do so automatically if you insert a writeable tape with no
sync track on it.  This takes a LONG time (15 minutes or more - I don't recall
ever actually going through the process).  After the sync track is written,
the tape can be used.

The sync tracks for TK50-format and TK70-format tapes are different.  The
TK50 cannot do anything with a TK70-format tape.  The TK70 is capable of
reading a tape in either format, and will sense the format from the sync
track it sees.  However, the TK70 cannot write onto a TK50-format cartridge.

If you bulk-erase cartridge and insert it into either kind of drive, the
drive will notice and format it (write a sync track) for its native mode.
Hence, you can re-use a cartridge that was formatted for TK50 use by bulk
erasing it, then sticking it into a TK70 drive.  That's the ONLY way you'll
be able to get the TK70 drive to write on it.

There is no difference in design between TK50 cartridges (TK50-K's) and
TK70 cartridges (TK52-K's) except for the format they come from the factory
in.  However, tolerances on the TK52-K's are tighter; some cartridges that
work perfectly well in a TK50 drive may be unusable in a TK70.  I'm told by
people who've tried it that, in practice, most TK50-K's work fine, with
perhaps a slightly higher error rate, so if you have a supply of TK50-K's
and a new TK70 drive, you can save some dollars.

							-- Jerry
From: adamstr@cc.uvcc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: VAX C Question
Date: 8 Oct 92 08:59:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: cc.1992Oct8.155913.1
Organization: Utah Valley Community College

I am basically a beginner with VAX C although I have had some C experience
on PC's. I am trying to learn how to access both indexed and sequential 
RMS files using the example program "RMSEXP.C" as found in the
"VAX C Run-Time Library Reference Manual" via "Bookreader" on a VAXStation
3100. The CD Rom is mounted with a volume label of "CDDOC06NOV11". Here is
the section of code that I can't seem to fix (from RMSEXP.C):

 3535        	
 3536        	initialize(char *fn);
 3537        	
 3538        	{
%CC-W-REPLACED, Replaced "{" with "*".
 
 3539        	    fab =  cc$rms_fab;
%CC-W-INVALINIT, The initialization of "fab" is not valid.
 
%CC-W-CONFLICTDECL, This declaration of "fab" conflicts
		with a previous declaration of the same name.
 
 3540        	    fab.fab$b_bks = 4;
%CC-W-CONFLICTDECL, This declaration of "fab" conflicts
		with a previous declaration of the same name.
 
%CC-E-INVFUNCDECL, "fab" is an improperly declared function.
 
%CC-E-SYNTAXERROR, Found "." when expecting
		one of { "int" "auto" "char" "enum" "long" "void" "const" "float" "short" "union" "_align" "double" "extern" "static"  etc.
 
 3541        	    fab.fab$l_dna = DEFAULT_FILE_NAME;
 3542        	    fab.fab$b_dns = sizeof DEFAULT_FILE_NAME -1;
 3543        	    fab.fab$b_fac = FAB$M_DEL | FAB$M_GET | FAB$M_PUT | FAB$M_UPD;
 3544        	    fab.fab$l_fna = fn;
 3545        	    fab.fab$b_fns = strlen(fn);
 3546        	    fab.fab$l_fop = FAB$M_CIF;



I'd appreciate any suggestions on where to look or what to try. Thanks!

adamstr@cc.uvcc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: "ray chow" <ray.chow@canrem.com>
Subject: drop
Reply-To: "ray chow" <ray.chow@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 15 Oct 92 00:18:19 EST

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From: byron@YOGI.HSC.UCALGARY.CA (Byron Draudson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: SmartStar vs Focus
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:04:04 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Has anyone else noticed that both SmartStar and Focus (IBI) claim that they
were voted the "Number 1 4GL in 1992".  Both make this claim in the Sept 28/92
issue of Digital News and Review (pg 30 & 66).  Which product was given the 
award and, more importantly, which product is _really_ better?

:byron
________________________________________________________________________
Byron Draudson, Systems Manager               byron@yogi.hsc.ucalgary.ca
Radiology, Foothills Hospital, Calgary, Alberta, Canada   (403) 670-2442
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: BBS for VMS ?
From: domiller@ualr.edu
Date: 16 Oct 92 09:39:30 GMT
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock

In article <1992Oct9.220809.2810@panix.com>, tlp@panix.com (Tracy Pendergast) writes:
> 
>  I'm curious as to whether and what BBS system
>  might run on VMS... any hints, tales, war stories
>  or just basic info is much appreciated!
> 
>  Thanks, --tl

Well, there's (shameless plug) UBBS.  Available on DECUS tapes and from
MAILSERV@UALR.EDU.  It's written in FORTRAN, and runs fairly well (if not
terribly efficiently).
	Dale
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: ORAKEL@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Framstag)
Subject: Re: ARJ for Vax/VMS Systems
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:02:43 GMT
X-Copyright1: Fuer Veroeffentlichungen AUSSERHALB des Newssystemes gelten MEINE Geschaeftsbedingungen.
X-Copyright2: Nichtbeachtung wird in der Regel zivil- und strafrechtliche Folgen nach sich ziehen.
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <1992Oct15.010143.1252@pacifier.rain.com> mikef@pacifier.rain.com writes:

> Do any of you know of a utility for Vax/VMS systems which will extract
> members from .ARJ files?  If such exists, is there a site where it may
> be obtained via anonymous ftp or E-mail?


info.rz.uni-ulm.de  pub/VMS/packers



\  Ulli 'Framstag' Horlacher    \    psi%0262450502601::rzmain::orakel  \
 \  Student consultant VAX/VMS and networks   \  orakel@dulruu51.bitnet  \
  \  Rechenzentrum  Universitaet Ulm  Germany  \    orakel@rz.uni-ulm.de  \
   \  "With mainframes you just can do nonsense, with PCs not even that."  \
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: FILIPSEN_BMF@jt.dk (Bent Filipsen)
Subject: VMS 5.5-1 and kernel mode
Organization: Jydsk TELEFON
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 12:20:17 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24


	Hi,

	We upgraded our VAX-cluster (9000,2*6530,6610) to VMS 5.5-1 two month
	ago, and since then we have experienced that kernel mode time
	has become more excessive.  Despite having moved some workload
	out of this cluster to other machines, we still have the problem.

	The CPUs are running close to 100%, we don't have memory problems.
	We have some i/o-problems, but so we had prior to VMS 5.5.

	We used to run more than 800 users simultanously.  Now we can hardly
	run more than 500.

	We are suspicious about VMS 5.5-1.  Does it sound reasonable that
	POSIX compatibility might induce more system service calls?

	As anyone out there experienced similar performance degradation
	after VMS 5.5 upgrade?

	Sincerely

	Bent Filipsen
	Jutland Telephone Company
	Denmark
	e-mail: Bent.Filipsen@jt.dk
From: tillman@swdev.si.com ("Brian Tillman, Smiths Industries, VAX Support, x8425")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: How do you determine   DECterm != vt300  ?
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:47:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: swdev.0096213E.F2313B00.21665
Organization: The Internet

Loren Schall (schall@swtech.cfsat.honeywell.com) writes:

>GETDVI reports a DECterm as a vt300.  The problem is, now, sometimes
>I'm using a vt340.  What's the right way to distinguish between a
>vt300 and a DECterm?

If you are worried about sixel graphics, don't.  DECterms do sixel graphics just 
fine.  You can distinguish, if you wish, via the device names.  VT340s are not 
FT devices.

>On an almost related note, what is the correct way to tell DECwindows
>LSE to open a 132x48 window at startup without interfering with
>nonDECwindows LSE startup?

Use the LSE$DEFAULTS.DAT resource file and/or LSE$COMMAND.TPU command file.  LSE 
knows whether or not it's in a DECwindows environment (you told it with the 
/INTERFACE or /DISPLAY qualifier) and will only do DECwindow things where it 
makes sense.  For example, my LSE$DEFAULTS resource file looks like this:

Tpu.Tpu$MainWindow.Rows:	36
Tpu.Tpu$MainWindow.X:		347
Tpu.Tpu$MainWindow.Y:		71

This file is ignored for character cell LSE.

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 Brian Tillman               | Internet: tillman@swdev.si.com
 Smiths Industries, Inc.     |           tillman_brian@si.com
 4141 Eastern Ave., MS129    | Hey, I said this stuff myself.
 Grand Rapids, MI 49518-8727 | My company has no part in it.
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From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Remote tape backups, RMT, etc.
Date: 9 Oct 1992 16:08:40 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <9OCT199210543169@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu>, ecf_stbo@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Blabst from the Pabst...) writes:
>In article <9210081344.AA17185@relay1.UU.NET>, gleeve@galaxy.dnet writes...
>>The remote tape driver (ztdriver) that Wolfgang Moeller did for VMS
>
>Dec has done it again. The driver for the dsw31/41 synchronous interface
>that goes on Microvax 3100 systems is called ztdriver. Ztdriver comes with
>the WAN drivers package. This device is also autoconfigured by sysgen. 

No, a programmer has done it again.  If you don't want your driver name to
conflict with DEC driver names, start your driver name with a Q.
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
Newsgroups: comp.os.misc
From: mlesch@syslab.csd.uwo.ca (Mike Esch)
Subject: 'Bare-bones' 32 bit OS
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:41:24 GMT

Greetings:

We are developing a high-speed, multi-processor switch.  The
master processor is an 80386 and the network ports are slaved by
80186's (4 ports per 186).

Currently, as the product is still in it's early development
stage, we are surviving by running MS-DOS as the operating
system.  DOS simply does not suffice for the tasks we require
of the O/S; it's not fast enough, memory problems/limitations
etc.  Ideally, we would like to write a customized O/S for
the product but at the same time do not want to re-invent
the wheel.

The requirments for the O/S are very minimal -- bootstrap,
loader and rudimentary file system.  There is (or will be)
some sort of secondary storage (hard or floppy disk most
likely).  The only specification is that the O/S needs to
be as fast as possible. Questions I pose to the net, then, are:

1)  Is there a commercial 32 bit BIOS available for the
	386 architecture?

2)	Any sort of 32 bit 'stripped down' file system available?
	Even 'code snippets' at ftp sites would be helpful.

3)	Even better than 1) or 2) would be an actual OS as
	described above!

Any info/comments would be greatly appreciated!

Best regards,

Mike

PS Yes we have considered different Operating Systems (such as
OS/2 and Unix based systems) but have rejected them primarily
due to excessive overhead and royalty/licensing headaches.
From: ch770@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Grzegorz M. Wapinski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.misc
Subject: QNX - contact with users
Date: 13 Oct 1992 08:42:57 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I'm looking for QNX operating system users. I don't use it,
but I have some friends who feel very unhappy.
Please send your answers (if any) to :
ekogw@halina.univ.gda.pl
Thanks in advance,
Grzegorz M. Wapinski
Newsgroups: comp.os.misc
From: toni@sostres.ac.upc.es (Toni Cortes Rossello)
Subject: PEACE: some questions
Organization: Departament D'arquitectura de Computador (UPC)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 12:06:35 GMT



	I am starting to read information about the PEACE Distributed
Operating System. There are two questions I would like to ask.

	The first question is about the nucleus family. It sais (or, at
least, I think it sais) that there are different nucleus and the node
will run one or another dependig on the applications running on it. As
far as I know in a Distributed O.S. the applications are node
independent (they are not bounded to a special node). How do we know
what nucleus to run in each node?

	The second question is also about the nucleus. If the kernel has
at leat one thread, and the nucleus is a one thread configuration, how
can an aplication run on it?

	These may be a kind of silly questions, but I am starting to read
inforamtion about Distributed O.S. and I may have some wrong concepts.

	Thanks in advance.

			Toni.

PS: I'd rather recive the answers via e-mail (toni@ac.upc.es) unless you
think the answer may interest other readers of this group. 



-- 
Toni Cortes Rossello                         | What are you reading my Lord ?
Mail  toni@ac.upc.es			     | Words, words, words,   
Departamento de Arquitectura de computadores | 		Only words.         
Universidad Politecnica de Catalunya (UPC)   |			Hamlet.     
Newsgroups: comp.os.misc
From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Subject: Re: 'Bare-bones' 32 bit OS
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:36:38 GMT

ANNA Books sells a c-coded AT bios for a nominal fee. Either Minix or
Linux (alt.linux) contain much source code that might be of use.
General Software sells a FAT-based file system as does Austin Code
Works.
-- 
Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>
 
[.sig on vacation]
From: chad.w.german.1@nd.edu (Chad W. German)
Newsgroups: comp.os.misc
Subject: Out of environemnt space
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:43:00 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame

Getting the out of environment space message even after using the command of
shell=c:\command.com /e:1024 /p......... Using DOS 5.0....... Any 
suggestions...


Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.os.misc