From: dc4l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Dean Calloway)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: FOR PHYZ, AND DCAL
Date: 7 Apr 92 05:49:40 GMT
Organization: Masters student, Urban and Public Affairs, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts From Captions of netnews.alt.rap:
 6-Apr-92  Re: FOR PHYZ, AND DCAL         jwilson@ohstpy.mps.ohio- (5282)   
>I gotta agree with you here.  This brotha obviously is on time with a lot of
>his views.  A Master's student in Urban Affairs, I would expect no less.  We
>all wear many hats in our daily existence.  When I'm at work hobb-nobbin' 


Actually, I was accepted to a number of Urban and Public Policy programs
for my Ph.D., including the one at Carnegie Mellon.  If the issue is
counting up credits,... however, this is not the issue and I was not
wrong.

with
>these bullshit scientists, I gotta play the GAME.  How well you play the GAME

Was this the intent?  If so, why did  you make such sexist comments
concerning women?


>determines how far you can go and how far back you can reach to pull others u
>p.

By fucking with women?  I don't understand.

>When I log on to this .net at work, I write about something that's important 
>to
>me in a style that's comfortable to me.  DCAL thinks all homies can't intervi

No, I don't.   

>ew
>correctly, and I'm sure many can't.  But to deem all of us who loosen up on
>this .net as ignorant, stupid, worthless, whatever, is irrational.  Hell, 

Never said.  I did use some of these terms however, to refer to those
who made such atrocious comments about women's sexuality.

we'
>re
>all no better than the "MF's who sell to their own".  C'mon y'all, do you buy
>this shit?

Simplistic.  Never said this.  You made the comments.  I said that
disrespecting women in the manner displayed invoked images of those MFs
who disrespect others by standing on the corners selling.

  So it's Slang user=crack dealer?  Who changed tha rulz?  As far as
>white posters comin' off as tryin' to be black, that shit is offensive to me 
>in
>the same sense as Vanilla Ice or Hammuh tryin' to be legit.  We see Dobalinas
>around the way EVERYDAY, ALL OF US!!  They gonna get theirs!! 

Then, by all means, do it.

 But how you
>gonna diss somebody VT1000 style an' you don't even know who the fuck they ar
>e?
>But to some, I will always "look" ignorant....so be it.  
>As far as being sexist/mysognist goes, I don't unnestand.  I believe that I

It was more than this.  There was an extensive reference to "tongue"
along with numerous other refernces by others of bitch.


>made ONE PMS reference to Ms. Phillips in ONE post, now I'm a hoe-slappin, bi
>tch
>pimpin', mack daddy, etc. etc.  No one said a DAMN thing about Martha's
>"testicular cancer" joke, any takers?  Violence begets violence, and bad taste

I did.  Please re-read post.  I said that M's post was "ridiculous."

>begets bad taste.  I thought the shit was funny (although I wished that she
>would have done better).  Like Michael Moore said, if she was a man, she would
>have gotten the same, maybe worse.  He, Dave at IU, and I know what's up with

But based on her sexuality?  C'mon, y'know you better.

>that.  We are all intelligent enough to use the apprpriate language in each
>facet of our daily lives, why do we need to be chastised for that?  Maybe we
>should all "..grow up and be MEN...", even you ladies out there.  C'mon, you
>can do it, we've got a TEACHER (not a Mom, Dad, Brotha, Sistah, Pastor..) now
>, a
>real live put it in your ass then pull it out HARD TEACHUH!!  TUO, I've been
>banished to the other side...
> 

Y'now, the funny thing is, you wouldn't talk so much shit in person. 
Damn, you're tough.


There was an entire post dealing with Battle's comments that I asked him
to post.  I was unaware that he had posted his response to the board as
well as to my ID.  His basis for response was, indeed, flawed in this
case.

Fact of the matter is that I care, and sometimes inordinately, about
what happens to us.  Dopey it may sound, but we all have an
responsibility to play a role in our communities.  I would prefer it be
positive.  


DCAL 
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