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From: paulr@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Paul Russell)
Subject: Re: Pavements
Organization: University of Sussex
Distribution: uk
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:53:26 GMT

From article <1992Nov19.143939.8033@city.cs>, by lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun):
> In article <JC.92Nov19092339@mr-potter-t-crosser-i-dotter.fulcrum.co.uk> jc@fulcrum.co.uk (John Callingham) writes:
>>Does anyone know the definition of a pavement (the legal one, not the
>>dictionary one). I ask because I was nearly run over this morning by a
>>car crossing the pavement from a drop kerb to enter a drive. I thought
>>I was still on the pavement, but the driver seemed to think that he
>>had priority because he was still on the road.
> 
> Eh? Humans have priority on roads. It was explained in `Car Driving
> in 2 Weeks' by Nathan. You are driving in a car and see a human
> standing in the middle of the road. Are you entitled to run him
> over and kill him? No! QED.
> 

It _used_ to be in the Highway Code - rule 47 I think - pedestrians
crossing at junctions have right of way. Last time I looked it was
no longer there, so presumably cars have become more important than
pedestrians in the Thatcher Years...

//Paul

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From: dingram@dims.demon.co.uk ("Darren P. Ingram")
Subject: Re: Satellite Dishes 
Distribution: world
Organization: Darren Ingram Media Services
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 15:32:05 +0000


In article <OKES.92Nov11203051@SunLab40.essex.ac.uk> okes@essex.ac.uk writes:

>We have a BSB squariel at home. It sits on the floor, pointing out the
>(double-glazed) French windows. We get a perfect picture, even when it rains.
>Of course, that changes when someone walks in front of it...


Which won't be any use in its current state from 31/12/92:-)

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From: jc@fulcrum.co.uk (John Callingham)
Subject: Re: car insurance scam
Organization: Fulcrum Communications Ltd., Birmingham, England
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:10:02 GMT

In article <722097911.3647@minster.york.ac.uk> simpson@minster.york.ac.uk writes:

   My car was stolen from outside my house and the insurers have taken a long
   time to do anything about it. The latest scam that they have come up with
   is to ask for a copy of my licence. This seems irrelevant to me since I
   was in bed at the time the car was stolen and my licence is fully valid for
   the XXX category (being in sole charge of a stationary bed). The only thing
   that I can think of is that they want to delay or evade paying by seeing
   if there is something dodgy on another part of the contract unrelated to the
   theft. Bastards.

   Anyone care to join me in hating insurers?


You will find that a condition of your insurance states that you have
a certain type of license. The insurance company doesn't check until
you claim. Of course they will check to see if their contract with you
is valid.
--
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From: tbrann@black.ox.ac.uk (Tony Brannigan)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: 29 Feb 2000?
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:39:43 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Engineering Dept.
Originator: tbrann@black

malcolm@muir.demon.co.uk writes:
>
>Next argument - I say the first year of the 21st. century is 2001, not 2000
>which is the last year of the 20th. century.

I think the year "0" was in the first century, so "100" was the start of
the second ... "2000" is the start of the 21st.

Tony
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From: G.Joly@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Gordon Joly)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: How do you claim?
Date: 15 Nov 92 16:28:28 GMT

Lionel Tun writes:
 > A car went into the back of our car over the weekend. The person
 > at fault admitted guilt and supplied names and addresses. He had
 > a company car and company insurance. We have 3rd party fire and
 > theft, plus loss recovery.
 > 
 > The question is, what can I claim for and how to go about it?
 > Is it better to let my insurance company approach the other
 > insurance company? Will it affect my no-claims bonus? Would it
 > be quicker to approach the company that owns the car?

You can claim for your damage. Yes, yes, no.

 > Should I get the car fixed (the back bumper and boot is caved in,
 > the car is a 1983 Audi 80) and present the bill, or should I get
 > an estimate, get the money then get it fixed? During the time
 > the car is away for repair, it means my wife cannot take the kids
 > to playgroup - can I claim for a hired car to cover that?
 > 
 > --
 > Lionel Tun   (lionel@cs.city.ac.uk)
 > Vision Group, City University, London, EC1V 0HB. 071-477 8000 x 3889


You will need at least two estimates. You can get a hire if your
policy says "you can get a hire car".

Gordon.

P.S. Golden rule: never say anything at the scene. Your insurance
company will do all the talking!

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From: fbowles@gssec.bt.co.uk (Frank K Bowles)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: TV licence authorities get wrists smacked
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:01:58 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: BT

In article <Bxz0oD.Mq1@cck.coventry.ac.uk>, cei352@cck.coventry.ac.uk (The Freak) writes:
 Oh,my poor heart bleeds for them,me thinks not.I,and quite proudly so,do not
|> own a television licence,mainly due to the fact that my television blew up
|> about a month ago.....its sods' law,especially when the new series of Have I 
|> got News for You has begun its umpteen week run.Prior to this though,I still
|> didnt have a licence.I kept a television licence application form by the side
|> of my television,already filled out,and incase any welcome TV detector men 
|> happened to call in,I would have simply said I had the form and was going 
|> to post it tomorrow. Whether they would have believed me though i do not know..

So you steal television programmes paid for the rest of us and feel
proud about it?  Do you commit any other crimes - shoplifting,
vandalism, mugging...?


Frank

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From: gdg019@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Ridley McIntyre)
Subject: Re: Was: Re: 29 Feb 2000?; Now: Gregorian Calendar
Organization: Pig Heaven, Coventry, UK
Distribution: uk
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 12:03:44 GMT

In article <By0w6D.Lt1@dcs.ed.ac.uk> eo@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Emma Osman) writes:
>In article <28444@castle.ed.ac.uk> rwb@castle.ed.ac.uk (Richard Bingham) writes:
>
>>
>>Eh???  They must teach a different form of arithmetic in Coventry to
>>that which my school taught me more than 30 years ago... 
>>
>>The only missing days I can see there are those between 2/9/1752 and
>>13/9/1752, hence the "Give us back our eleven days" protesters.  I
>>also understood that the "Twelve Days of Christmas" originated from
>>those missing days.
>>
> From 1750 onwards, the dates would presumably be:
>
>25th March 1750 -> 24th March 1750    (12 month year)

So, one day backwards becomes a 12 month year?

>25th March 1751 -> 31st December 1751 (9 and a bit month year)
>1st January 1752 -> 31st December 1752 (12 month minus 11 days year)
>
>So January and February are indeed missing in 1751.

Even if the first example runs from 25th March 1750 to 24th March 1751
(a 12 month year), then you don't lose January and February.


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From: dhunt@infocom.UUCP (David Hunt)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: 386 for Sale
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:48:58 GMT
Distribution: world, local
Organization: INFOCOM Public Unix Server, +44 [0] 734 340055


I apologise, if this is not the newsgroup to post this in!


I have a Packard Bell 386SX 16MZ with 80387 co-processor, 5Mb of RAM, 
1200bps Hayes Smartmodem, 1 Serial, 1 Centronics, Logitech Hand-Scanner, 
44Mb hard-drive (IDE), two button PS/2 mouse, VGA Colour (640x480) although 
integral (800x600) vga chip set fitted, less then one year old.


Will include the following original software, DOS 5.0, WINDOWS 3.0, 
PAGEMAKER 3.01, COREL DRAW 1.2, PCTOOLS 5.0, all software is complete with 
original disks and manuals.

Will also include a Fujitsu DL3400 wide carriage printer with paper parking, 
push tractor, 24 pins, spare ribbons, including printer cable.

Please email me at dhunt@infocom.co.uk with o.n.o 1150.00 GBP.

Reason for sale: Upgrading my 486 Hardrive to a 1.2GB (lots of dough 
                 required)
                
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From: dhd@exnet.co.uk (Damon)
Subject: Re: Subtle (i.e. obscure) cigarette adverts
Organization: ExNet Systems Ltd Public Access News, London, UK
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:49:27 GMT

In article <CAH.92Nov20183348@fat-controller.bham.ac.uk> cah@cs.bham.ac.uk (Ceri Hopkins) writes:

>On the subject of advertising, my favourite at the moment (for similar
>reasons) is one which I believe [open to correction] is only shown
>locally in the Midlands for Birmingham based East End foods (Asian
>importer and packager). They buy slots quite late on C4 (and
>Central??) -- must be quite cheap now. Anyway, the one I'm thinking
>about proceeds as follows....
>
>[Shot of cartons of fruit juice]
>
>Voice over (slow and soft): "Drink East End Mango Juice... It's good."
>
>Nice and simple, eh?

Well, this is (at least) one level removed from what they want:

``Buy East End Mango Juice.''

Or perhaps even that is a meta-request, eg what they really want to say
is:

``Give us your money.''

If you think about it, it is amazing how indirect advertisers have to
be for us to think about the ads as clever and fun.  Sort of like:

typedef void simpleAd_t(money m); /* A fn that casts money into a void.  B^> */

simpleAd_t *******ciggy_ad;

Damon
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From: nic@uk.co.gec-mrc (Nick Chapman)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: 29 Feb 2000?
Date: 20 Nov 92 13:48:35 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: GEC-Marconi Research Centre, Great Baddow, UK
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Cal says that there was a February 29th in year 1700.
Is this because the 100 & 400 year rules hadn't yet started?

Nick.

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From: cmh004@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Dave)
Subject: Re: 29 Feb 2000?
Organization: Lanchester Polytechnic
Distribution: uk
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:40:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.215407.19578@infodev.cam.ac.uk> gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry) writes:
>In article <2239@stalin> nic@uk.co.gec-mrc (Nick Chapman) writes:
>>Cal says that there was a February 29th in year 1700.
>>Is this because the 100 & 400 year rules hadn't yet started?
>Yes.  England used the Julian calendar until 1752, where the rule
>was simply that every fourth year was a leap year.  The extra days
>in years like 1700 were what caused the calendar to get eleven
>days behind.

Cal is wrong. February in 1700 had 28 days. February in 1699 had 29 days.Yet 
I reckon that historians would say that 1700 did have a leap year, for 
simplicties sake.
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From: sm@cel.co.uk (salim mehta)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: car insurance scam
Date: 19 Nov 92 11:39:15 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Crosfield Electronics Ltd.
In-reply-to: simpson@minster.york.ac.uk's message of 18 Nov 92 14:45:12 GMT

In article <722097911.3647@minster.york.ac.uk> simpson@minster.york.ac.uk wrote:
> My car was stolen from outside my house and the insurers have taken a long
> time to do anything about it. The latest scam that they have come up with
> is to ask for a copy of my licence. This seems irrelevant to me......
[stuff deleted]

Write to them and politely *refuse*. You are claiming against *theft*
not for accident cover. Explain to them that your (fictitious is OK)
solicitor considers a refusal to settle a breach of contract.

Make sure that you *do* have the right cover before you do any of these
things though!

Do not put up with poor service, *you* are the customer - remind them of
this.

Be polite and keep copies of all correspondence. This approach has even
worked for me against the local Tory council : )


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From: simpson@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: car insurance scam
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:45:12 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

My car was stolen from outside my house and the insurers have taken a long
time to do anything about it. The latest scam that they have come up with
is to ask for a copy of my licence. This seems irrelevant to me since I
was in bed at the time the car was stolen and my licence is fully valid for
the XXX category (being in sole charge of a stationary bed). The only thing
that I can think of is that they want to delay or evade paying by seeing
if there is something dodgy on another part of the contract unrelated to the
theft. Bastards.

Anyone care to join me in hating insurers?
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: lsg001@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Graham Wilson)
Subject: Re: humor in England
Organization: Legal Department - Coventry University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:09:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.111633.5628@bradford.ac.uk> D.Pidcock@bradford.ac.uk (Danny Pidcock) writes:
>James W Bottomley (apj003@cck.coventry.ac.uk) wrote:
>: 
>: Not that I'm biased or anything, but I reckon England starts at Watford Gap.
>: Heading north.
>: -- 
>
>This is a message to all those drivers travelling north on the M1 and M6:
>
>"F**k off you southern B*st*rds"
>
>Danio : d.pidcock@uk.ac.bradford


** Thank you for that stimulating insight. 

   When's the book published - I can't wait.


   Perhaps you should try the "care in the community" scheme next time.
   You will probably find it more fun than the network.


   

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From: rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns)
Subject: Re: TV licence authorities get wrists smacked
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Distribution: uk
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 17:07:53 GMT

To get back to the original subject of this thread...

A letter in today's Guardian suggests a "non-TV-watchers' charter".
This seems to me a concept that should be pressed on young Mr. Major.
He would probably understand it.
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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: cmh004@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Dave)
Subject: Re: humor in England
Organization: Lanchester Polytechnic
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:08:39 GMT

In article <By6Atr.AoA@cck.coventry.ac.uk> csi056@cch.coventry.ac.uk (WEG) writes:
>>>This is a message to all those drivers travelling north on the M1 and M6:
>>>"F**k off you southern B*st*rds"
>
>I saw a great advert in Cov months ago which went something like this:
>"Mushy peas, or puread petis pois to southerners"

I saw a different copy of the same advert in Portsmouth with the words:
'Yorkshire Caviar' (SP) insted of the 'puread petis pois to southerners' bit.

That guy in Bradford will be pleased to know that when I travel north - to
Coventry I have no need to use either the M1 or the M6 so I'm pleased to
receive his comment via the news net. 
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From: v_vinog@pavo.concordia.ca (VINOGRADOV, VLADIMIR)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Canadian engineer looks for job in UK, Europe, Russia
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:29:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41




I am an engineer (masters): Ghz telecommunications, hardware, 
video, audio (analogue and digital), cinematography, internal 
combustion engines. 20 years of experience, 18 years of 
enthusiasm. English, Russian, French. Apartment in Moscow and 
lots of connections (personal, professional, busuiness) in 
Russia. Will be able to avert expensive falures due to unique 
Russian business mentality and scruples (often lack thereof).
Candian citizen. t. 514 683 71 55. 11 Valmount, Dollard, Quebec
H9B 2T8 

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From: s0rah@exnet.co.uk (R A Hollands)
Subject: Bicycle riders
Organization: ExNet Systems Ltd Public Access News, London, UK
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:50:24 GMT

Of late it seems to me that people on bikes have started to believe
they're pedestrians.  They ride past me on the pavement and they don't
have lights at night.

It must be months since I saw a bicycle at night with lights.  Is this
anyone else's experience?

I think *I'm* a pedestrian but then I haven't got a bike.

(The Subject: is a quote from an old jewish joke.  You recognized it of course)

Richard

["Smile!" - Christine Gianone, Mskermit initialization file]
From: dhunt@infocom.UUCP (David Hunt)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: 386 for Sale
Date: 21 Nov 92 10:17:41 GMT
Distribution: world, local
Organization: INFOCOM Public Unix Server, +44 [0] 734 340055

mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) writes:
> Er, do Activision Mediagenic know you're using their protected trade mark?
> 
  Obviously, "Preying Mantis" didn't object to you using his name ;-)), I 
  would suggest that you check your statements before keying them in 8^(
  
  
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From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,scot.general,ed.general,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: I've lost my biscuits!
Date: 19 Nov 92 10:27:44 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <7917@skye.ed.ac.uk> ken@aiai.ed.ac.uk (Ken Johnson) writes:
>In article <11440@burns.ed.ac.uk> tkld@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Kevin Davidson)
>writes:

># I've lost my biscuits !

>Crumbs!

Anybody apart from me like their Ginger Nuts slightly soft?

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From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Pavements
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:12:53 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Nov19.155326.18375@syma.sussex.ac.uk> paulr@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Paul Russell) writes:
>From article <1992Nov19.143939.8033@city.cs>, by lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun):

>> Eh? Humans have priority on roads.

>It _used_ to be in the Highway Code - rule 47 I think - pedestrians
>crossing at junctions have right of way. Last time I looked it was
>no longer there,

It's still there, in the form that pedestrians crossing a road into
which you are turning have priority. But it has clearly moved to an
inconspicuous position, since very few car drivers have been able to
find it either :-)
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From: D.Pidcock@bradford.ac.uk (Danny Pidcock)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: uPVC doors and Windows
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:15:28 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 91642540@saffron
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snail@lsl.co.uk wrote:
: In article <1992Nov13.142514.721@axion.bt.co.uk>, saujla@flamingo.axion.bt.co.uk (Sukhvinder Aujla) writes:
: > If a hole is made in the metal through the uPVC then:
: > (1) the steel salesman says the aluminum will turn to powder over a
: > period of time.
: 
: One of the most useful properties of Aluminium is that once the surface is
: oxidised, the oxidisation stops. The outer layer prevents any further
: deterioration occuring. This is not true with steel.
: 
: > (2) the aluminum salesman says the steel will rust.
: 
: It probably will.
: 
: Disclaimer. I'm not metal expert of Chemist. I remembered the Aluminium bit
: from an O Level exam I sat a long time ago.
: 
Yes I remeber this too - from an exam not so long ago :-)

This is why they make land rovers out of aluminium and not steel, so they
last longer and are very expensive.

BTW: If I remember right, PVC = Poly Vinyl Chloride.  What is the u for?
And why is there metal in the doors?  why isn't it uPVCwMb (u-PVC with Metal
bits) :-)

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