HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: benjamin@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Benjamin Renaud)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Quayle/Bush Competency?
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:46:39 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory

In article <1992Aug25.114434.2017@wkuvx1.bitnet> barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>To all Bush and Quayle bashers--
                 ^
                 |
                 |
Hi!              |

           That's us.

>  Though a registered independent myself, I find myself drawn to the
>defense of our President and Veep.  First off, the free trade agree-
>ment with Mexico, though much maligned, is a good one.  

[A lot of text defending the free-trade treaty thing]

Great!!! Yippee!! Joy! Joy! Joy! one good thing!! social programs? the
constitution? employment?  THE DEFICIT? poverty? AIDS? sex? all these
were bushered badly (especially that last one)

>  Second, Quayle and his slip ups.  Did anyone notice that Clinton
>and Gore _both_ butchered Bible quotes in their speeches at the Demo
>Convention?

[Ok, How Dan Quayle is actually a very competent [politician and how
the liberal (ack, gross...) media tried to villify Danny]

>They failed.  

They didn't. This newsgroup has a turnout almost as big as alt.sex.

>   Third, no, Bush has not been the best of Presidents.

Indeed.

>                                       Fred

Regards,

Benjamin.

Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: jansen@tcs.com (David Jansen)
Subject: Re: Einstein's brain.
Organization: Teknekron Communications, Inc
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:27:31 GMT

In article <Bu1wE4.Hy1.1@cs.cmu.edu>, alexo+@cs.cmu.edu (Alex Orenshteyn) writes:
|> 	Somewhere in this country there is a fellow with a medical
|> degree who got hold of Einstein's brain after the poor chap died.
|> This medical man from time to time slices off pieces of the brain
|> to find out just what made Einstein a genuis. I wonder whose brain
|> he is going get next? Heh, Heh.
|> 
|> 

I hear Einstein brain slices are going for $5000 / milligram.  On the other hand,
Quayle slice futures are already being offered at $100000 / milligram to the many
scientists curious about this marvel of nature.

This seems surprising until you figure how many slices of Quayle brain are 
required to make a milligram.

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From: llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: "Liberal" - A Misnomer
Date: 28 Aug 92 05:32:36 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet wrote:
: Let's face it - the term "liberal" is a misnoner.  Some of the 
: most intolerant people I've ever met are liberals (of course, I'm
: sure there are good-hearted, if misled ones, out there).  

interesting. you start out by making blanket statements about
"liberals" (a nebulous term, at best), even going so far as to state
that "good" liberals are obvously liberal 'cause they're misled. this
is an interesting statment, especially when considered with your
postscript.

:   Most liberals nowdays don't want the name liberal.  I say we 
: call them what they are - hypocrites (only the ones who are).  I
: put them in the same category I do David Duke - they refuse to come
: out and say what they really believe, that morality is wrong, that 
: if you tell someone they're wrong you're intolerant and bigoted, 
: that if you have any sense of decency at all you're some kind of 
: neo-Nazi.

waitaminute. i've never heard anyone say that morality is wrong, or
that people who are wrong shouldn't be told so, or that "decency"
makes you a nazi. what i *have* heard, and strongly believe, is that
attempting to force the majority to conform to narrow-minded beliefs
about morality and decency held by a minority is wrong. you're free to
live by your moral values and beliefs about what right. i ask to be
allowed the same privilege.

:   They've got control over Congress and the media; God help us if
: they get the Presidency as well.

ther ewas a really interesting study done some years ago in which
groups on either side of an issue were shown the same newscasts and
asked to give opinions on the fairness of the coverage. both groups
said they found the shows biased against their side. interesting, eh?

:   That's my opinion - it ought to be yours.

uh, piss off. it's pretty ironic that you rant above about how
"liberals" are trying to force their opinions on people and close like
this.

:                                     A Tennessean

glad i don't live there.

: P.S. - I want to make two things crystal clear before I go.  First,
: like I said before, I don't make this as a blanket statement about
: all liberals (strangely enough, not like many vocal liberals do about
: conservatives).  

then you really should have reworked your opening paragraph to reflect
this belief, instead of spouting off about how liberals are either
evil or misled.

: Second, I hope everyone realizes my concluding line
: is purely facetious and not meant to offend; serious situations often 
: need occasional humor to relieve the pressure.

it'd be great if it were amusing. but it wasn't.

--
sine nomine
debbie martinson
life is messy. don't get any on me.
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From: lana@magenta.corp.sgi.com (Lana Mountford)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: "I can even forgive Bush for Dan Quayle, but not for this."
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:57:46 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <BtwH6y.KDE@knot.ccs.queensu.ca>, linley@qucis.queensu.ca (Richard Linley) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug31.205803.29921@odin.corp.sgi.com> lana@magenta.corp.sgi.com (Lana Mountford) writes (in part):
|> >
|> >Er ... I think Marilyn Quayle has something to do with this.  As I recall,
|> >she wanted *something* to do, so they made her some uppity-up in FEMA -- the
|> >Federal Emergency Management Agency, which is responsible for coordinating
|> >disaster preparations between the federal government and the states...
|> >
|> 
|> WHAT??????
|> 
|> Can this be true?  The Ms. Danster herself is PART of the PROBLEM?  Can anyone
|> verify this affiliation?


I'm *POSITIVE* she was affiliated with FEMA in 1989.  Whether or not she
still is, I couldn't say FOR SURE, but I believe she is.  She came to 
the Bay area just after the quake, making all kinds of promises about how 
FEMA would help rebuild Santa Cruz and Watsonville, help people rebuild 
their homes, etc.  Some of the victims she promised to help are still 
waiting, almost 3 years later.  She has also appeared a couple of times 
since when we have our annual 9-county earthquake preparedness drill, going
on about how we are a model for the country, and how proud she is to be
part of it all.
-- 

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From: jviv@usmi01.midland.chevron.com (John Viveiros)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Definitions
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:12:57 GMT
Distribution: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Organization: Chevron

Word #1 
A system of government characterized by rigid one-party dictatorship,
forcible supression of the opposition (unions, other, especially
leftist, parties, minority groups, etc.), the retention of private
ownership of the means of production under centralized governmental
control, belligerant nationalism and racism, glorification of war, etc.

Word #2
Giving Freely, generously.
Tolerant of others views, broad-minded
Favoring political reforms tending toward democracy and personal freedom
for the individual.
Licentious (morally unrestrained -- oh well JJV)

A copy of Marilyn Quayles speech to the first person who can figure out
which one of these Dan the Man is politically, and which one he rails
against.  Oh, you must be able to figure out which words I'm defining.
(Webster's New World dictionary by the way).

For any with access, Prodigy has the text of all evening speeches.  To
the person who wanted C. Rice's speech, E-mail me if you still want it
and I'll send you a copy.  (She's on the board of directors at Chevron,
along with guys like George Schulz -- our token minority, female,
environmentalist??).
-- 
John Viveiros     (jviv@chevron.com)
Chevron USA        Standard disclaimer applies
Midland TX
From: jc@optimla.aimla.com (John VanHoozer)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: "Liberal" - A Misnomer
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:26:58 GMT
Reply-To: jc@optimla.aimla.com (John VanHoozer)
Organization: OptImage Interactive Services Co., L.P.

Fred,

Just have to put in my $0.02 worth.

I have just read your 2 posts, _"Liberal" - A Misnomer_ and _Quayle/Bush
Competency_.  I won't respond to the various statements that you make
on a point by point basis as so many others (especially Don Coolidge and dks)
have provided sound responses already.

What I see in your posts (and I hope this is not a joke perpetrated on
you by some fiend who saw that you left your terminal unattended) reminds 
me of  a topic that was discussed on NPR during the GOP convention.  
The reason that the fundamentalists had such a large voice in fleshing out 
the republican platform is that they can work as one voice.  
There is no dissention in their ranks when it comes to abortion,  
school prayer,  and "family values"...  Here is where "constructive 
interference" from elementary physics can be seen in human interactions.

The rest of us have a great many things to say about a great many topics.
This is especially true of us Liberals (I consider my self one).
This "destuctive interference" only serves to make the voice of the fundamental
right seem all the more correct because of their ability to act as one
speak as one and to draw so much attention to themselves.  
Many see this as the great "voice of truth" (my words) since it is so loud.

A pity that you seem to have bought in to it.  Try reading dks' post concerning
morality and the laws of the land.  It is thoughtful and can be supported 
by reading any introductory sociology book.  Just because one group seems
to make it's voice heard above the din doesn't mean that they can speak for 
all (especially me).

You must not consider yourself a "Liberal" and that is fine with me.
I don't consider you one either.  However,  I am not a hypocrite or 
intolorant.  In fact,  I won't add you to my "kill author" file yet
even though you have broken what I believe to be the charter for
a.f.d-q  since your second post had nothing to do with our boy DQ.

			jc

P.S.  If you have any facts that you would like to share concerning 
how bad Al Gore is as a potential vp please share them as this forum
may need a headstart on the a.f.a-g concession come november (I certainly
hope so).

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Organization: Information Networking Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Date: Thu,  3 Sep 1992 09:08:09 -0400 
From: "Joshua M. Sabloff" <jsa5+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Another fine mess (was Re: Phil Gramm)
Distribution: usa

Excerpts from netnews.alt.fan.dan-quayle: 2-Sep-92 Re: Another fine mess
(was .. by Diane Mathews@boi.hp.com 
> No no!  Don't!  Never let him hold a pubic orifice (OOPS!  that was supposed
> to be public office).

Hey, let's not start a discussion about Clarence Thomas here.... :-)



-Josh Sabloff (jsa5@andrew.cmu.edu)
"Now go away before I taunt you a second time-a!"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: glass@adcalc.fnal.gov (Mike Glass)
Subject: alt.fan.eileen-simpson
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4  
Reply-To: glass@adcalc.fnal.gov
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory
Distribution:  world
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 01:41:38 GMT

(Oops--fix "live" in the last posting)

-- Michael Glass
From: barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: ABORTION
Date: 31 Aug 92 12:33:39 CDT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <392@slc1.UUCP>, ta@slc1.UUCP (Tony Alicea) writes,
concerning abortion:
 
> I will die fighting religious bigots who want to impose thier religious 
> beliefs on me before I tolerate them!

  Do we have a right to stop or punish murder?  By all means.  If you
  believe abortion = murder (like Danny Q. does - had to put that in
  there to keep the "You-Didn't-Talk-About-Quayle" people off my
  back), would it not be logical to do everything you can to pre-
  vent it?
 
> If you don't believe in abortion, by all means DON'T HAVE ONE!

  Substitute "murder" -"If you don't believe in murder, don't kill
  anyone".  If abortion = murder, we have a right- no, an obligation-
  to put an end to it.
 
> ...What do you say to atheists?

  I usually say, "I respect your opinions, but you're wrong", then 
show them why.

> Ah, I guess, just like Bush, you don't
> think they are human beings, right?!  Religion = Superstition.

  No, religion does not = superstition.  Is religion a faith? Yes.
  Is atheism a faith? Yes!  The non-existence of God cannot be 
  proven; you can't prove a negative.  Likewise, the existence of
  God cannot be proven absolutely until you see Him yourself.  So,
  does this mean Atheism = Superstition?


                                           -Jeff
From: michael@paul.bu.edu (Michael Chaplin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Quayle/Bush Competency?
Date: 29 Aug 92 02:25:33 GMT
	<1992Aug28.182401.6733@u.washington.edu>
	<1992Aug28.222330.17101@qualcomm.com>
Organization: Boston University
In-reply-to: jpinteri@gdansk.qualcomm.com's message of 28 Aug 92 22:23:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.222330.17101@qualcomm.com> jpinteri@gdansk.qualcomm.com (Jay Pinterics) writes:

  =In article <1992Aug28.182401.6733@u.washington.edu> sieferme@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman) writes:
  =>In article <17ji3vINNq0q@agate.berkeley.edu> mazzarel@oreo.berkeley.edu (Ariel Mazzarelli) writes:
  =>>
  =>>"How did you do on your test Ariel?"
  =>>
  =>>"I quayled it."
  =>>
  =>(other quayleism deleted)
  =>
  =>
  =>More submissions requested.
  =>

  =Or, "I've been standing in the unemployment line all day.  Boy, am I
  =bushed."

   
Or: "I'm not feeling too well- I think I'm gonna bush!"

Chaplin.
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michael@albert.bu.edu                     - William S. Burroughs

The Einstein Papers Project        The opinions contained herein reflect
Boston University                      neither those of the project, 
Boston, Massachusetts, U.S.A.          nor those of Albert Einstein.
From: dks@athena.mit.edu (dks)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Quayle
Date: 29 Aug 92 22:38:23 GMT
Organization: MIT, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA.

In article <iL10PB2w165w@fennec.sccsi.com>,
popec@fennec.sccsi.com (William C. Barwell) writes:
>There is an article in the August 25th issue of 'The New york Village 
>Voice' entitled 'Caught In The Headlights' 'bout lil Danny.  [...]
>........................................................................
>  When Dan Quayle wants his kids Corrine and Tucker to absorb some good 
>family values, he sits them down in front of Bible Study Audiocassettes 
>recorded by R. B. Thieme, (Pronounced Teem), pastor of Houston's Berachah 
>Church, a minister known to sometimes awe the faithful by showing up for 
>a sermon in full military uniform.
>[...]
>  For the next hour, hundreds of pens and pencils screeched and 
>scratched, straining mightily to keep up with the pastor's seemingly 
>endless torrent of comments on Proverbs 29:18.


In case you don't have your King Jim handy, Proverbs 29:18 reads:

        Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that
        keepeth the law, happy is he.

And in case you're wondering when you last heard the first part of
this verse on prime-time network television, it was in Bill Clinton's
acceptance speech at the godless Democratic Convention.  I wonder
if Dannikins even noticed.


Dhanesh

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, godammit.
From: stanton@athena.cs.uga.edu (Catherine Stanton)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Bye Bye Dan
Date: 29 Aug 92 07:41:42 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

Ah sir  you mourn the loss of this fair group, but keep your shoulders
straight, your spirits up and your vision straight ahead, for as long 
as there are Americans, there will be idiots in power equally as easy
to ridicule as Danny Boy.  Sure they  may not have the exact same quin-
tissential charm, but they'll have their own lovely quirks and idio-
syncracies.  And hey, if all else fails we can still find Quayle tid-
bits here and there and I can guarantee he will still continue to make
a fool of himself.  Why, consider it a blessing that he was elected
Vice President, because now, wherever he goes, the press will cover 
his blunders.  What would this newsgroup, nay the world even, have 
been like were there no Danny Boy to relax us with his warm hearted
family based humor and madcap blunders?  As long as there are arch-
conservative, fascist Republicans out there, we shall have an audience
for laughter.

As Danny himself put it we need to "Go forward to the future!" Not
"Past....to the back."

Catherine Stanton
-- The 100% American is 99% an idiot -- 
   George Bernard Shaw
Xref: sparky alt.fan.dan-quayle:3029 alt.politics.elections:11756 alt.politics.bush:3193
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.bush
From: ack@dgp.toronto.edu (Andrew Brownbill)
Subject: Re: DATELINE: Bush fucks up!
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:13:40 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.185934.15283@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.130233.7176@news.uiowa.edu> williams@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Kent Williams) writes:
>>And my unscientific opinion is that there is one major cause for
>>unwanted pregnancy: ineffective birth control.
>
>That unscientific opinion seems to have little basis in this reality.
>
>Few of the "teen" pregnancies are due to ignorance or inaccessible
>birth control, let alone failures.  They're the natural consequence of
>sex by people who WANT to get pregnant or don't care whether or not
>they do.  Unless someone is proposing some sort of mandatory birth
>control (norplant?), birth control policy can't affect that.
>

I just want to get this right. Unwanted teen pregnancies are caused by people
who want to get pregnant. 

Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: wlamonac@tolkien.helios.nd.edu (william lamonaca)
Subject: Re: Bye Bye Dan
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 01:25:53 GMT

In article <13549.2a9efe68@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
  [lots o' stuff deleted]

>You are right. But if you don't vote JUST TO MAKE SURE the slimebags
>might win.
>
>MAKE SURE YOU VOTE!!! IF YOU DONT VOTE THE SLIMES WILL TAKE IT AGAIN!!!
>
>EVEN IF YOU LIVE IN CALIFORNIA/OREGON/WASHINGTON/IDAHOE
>
>VOTE, DONT BELIEVE THE POLLS. VOTE VOTE VOTE!
>
>And maybe we'l get the fun of watching Our Hero in the unemployment line.
>
>My predictions:
>
>	DQ/MQ divorce. MQ restarts her career. DQ writes a book :)
>
>

Wouldn't Danno have to read one first?
From: vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Quayle gets it wrong again
Date: 2 Sep 92 03:29:00 EDT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Sep1.180310.17130@morrow.stanford.edu>, AH.PBL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark) writes:
> In article <1992Sep1.055446.24957@ccu.umanitoba.ca>,
> ejohnso@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Eric Johnson) writes:
>>In <168548F36.DSTEPHEN@cmsa.gmr.com> DSTEPHEN@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
>>
>>>While I'm at it, I also think (a) sending harassing E-mail to Tucker Quayle is
>>>just fine (e.g. "How did your sister's abortion go?")
>>
>>Seriously, they take this sort of stuff with a very straight face. Besides,
>>the kid's not responsible for the sins of his father, and there's no need
>>to fall to the level of the 'Lambs of God' who harrass the children of doctors
>>who perform D&Cs.                     ^^^
> 
>   That's "Lambs of Christ", I believe.  What a clever name.  I
>   always wanted to be a small, furry creature with a brain that's
>   the size of a peanut.  Sort of an improvement for Mr. Potatoe
>   Head.
> 
>   Leave Tucker-baby alone: he's soooooo cute!  (In a Hitler Youth
>   kind-of-way.)
> 

In all fairness, until the guy unloads on us on the net, we accusing him
of being a Reagan/Hitler youth is not fair. Let's drop the issue.

On the other hand, if he finds the net and decides to use it, he is
fair game just like the rest of us and his swell Dad :)

-Garrett


>   -- Mark
> 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush
From: bt@bailey.u.washington.edu (bt garner)
Subject: Re: stupid, blood sucking media
Organization: Process Modeling Group
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 12:27:18 GMT

In the yet unpublished autobiography titled <1992Aug28.004220.14379@ncsu.edu>,
dsh@odin.ece.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
#> I don't think Patti's book would have sold well had she given
#> lavish praise to her parents.  

So, now greed and dishonesty are good "Family Values" to instill in your
children?  Beauty.

"Hate" is not a family value.

bt garner
bt@cpac.washington.edu
There is no machine in the world named 'bailey.u.washington.edu'


Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: erics@sco.COM (eric smith)
Subject: Re: Marilyn's "Choice"?
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:01:39 GMT


joel@vthvax.tamu.edu writes:

>The people that *voted* for him think he should be given a microphone
>(including myself).  The dems are afraid to let the radical members of
>their party speak.

That's funny, since the Republicans agreed to give Buchanan a microphone
only if he promised to endorse Bush. If he had no language endorsing
Bush in his speech, you can bet you wouldn't have heard it.

>The're afraid they may come across as (oh no, here it
>comes) LIBERAL!  It's not just a "L" word.  Everybody knows what it means
>and the democrats can't win if they come across as liberal.

Since *everybody* knows what it means, why don't you enlighten the rest
of us? Exactly what does it mean, aside from someone who dares to
criticize or disagree with the rich white capitalists who are running
things and their puppet spokesmen Bush and Quayle?

-----
Eric Smith     erics@sco.com     erics@infoserv.com     CI$: 70262,3610

"I see no media mention of it, but we entered in -- you asked what time
 it is and I'm telling you how to build a watch here -- but we had Boris
 Yeltsin here the other day.  And I think my times campaigning in Iowa,
 years ago, and how there was a -- Iowa has a kind of, I single out Iowa,
 it's a kind of an international state in a sense and has a great
 interest in all these things -- and we had Yeltsin standing here in the
 Rose Garden and we entered into a deal to eliminate the biggest and most
 ballistic missiles and it was almost, 'Ho-hum, what have you done for me
 lately?' "

 -George Bush, on why he should be re-elected