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From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: ActorWatch - "A Christmas Carol"
Date: 24 Dec 92 22:16:15 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls



A Merry Christmas to all, and a Happy New Year no matter what year you
are travelling to.  :)  

And in the spirit of the holidays, my ActorWatch turned up two "Who" actors
in a Christmas "special" being shown tonight, Christmas Eve on CBS.

The special is "A Christmas Carol" starring George C. Scott and I recognized
two people from "Who" in it.

One was a very small part played by Michael Gough (the Toymaker, Councillor
Hedin in "Arc of Infinity", Alfred in the "Batman" movies), the part being
that of some older gentleman Scrooge runs into in the street and wishes a
Merry Christmas after he's been sorted out by the spirits the previous night.

The other was much more significant.  Mark Strickson (Turlough) as the 
young Scrooge that the Spirit of Christmas Past shows the present Scrooge
to prove to him that he once knew how to have fun.  Very good job he does
too.  The copyright date of this film is 1984 so it's right around the
time Mark was leaving "Who," and it almost shows in a way as he seems to
play his Scrooge a little like Turlough.  The part calls for it too as
Scrooge needs to be "shifty" in these scenes with the girlfriend he lets
get away.
This solves one mystery.  Now we know why Scrooge was the way he was; he made
a deal with the Black Guardian, and those spirits he saw were really him
tormenting Turlough.  :)

Once again, Merry Christmas!


Steven.K.Manfred





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From: spp@crane.cis.ufl.edu (Stephen P. Potter)
Subject: Re: The Doctor's Love Interest
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 22:24:53 GMT

In article <mpease.06n7@dream.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca> mpease@dream.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Michael David Pease) writes:
>
>
>        What I would like to know is..... Through the Years, Hell, it would
> be decades now... Has the Doctor in any Regeneration had a Love Interest?!?
>
>
>           Now it is a good question if you think about it. he has had ample 
> oppurtunity....IE: PERRY the HUGE Breasted young American girl, hell you
> would have to be DEAD not to notice those Breasts. then there was that
> Primitive Girl with Tom Baker...she was cute !
>
>     Has the Doctor had Any Relationships, other then plutonic ones?

In the early Hartnell story "The Aztecs", he almost got into a relationship
with one of the Aztec women.  However, other than that, I can think of no
story where he has shown anything more than friendship (fatherly/grandfatherly-
ness) towards any woman on the show.

Anyone?

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From: 00bwanderson@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Time Lord RPG, Transit
Date: 29 Dec 92 00:00:39 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

Hullo, all.  Whilst I was visiting family in Wisconsin, I stumbled across a
book called "Time Lord" at Media Play (a sort-of CD/Tape/Video/Book/Magazine
superstore).  It purported to be a Role Plaing game based on Dr Who.  I looked
through it, and it looked complete.  What I want to know is, has anyone out
there seen/bought/whatever this book?  It was inexpensive ($11.99) but I didn't
buy it.  I'm not much of a role player, I fear.  If you are, though, you might
want to look for it.  Sorry, I didn't get the ISBN.

Now, what I need is the name of the author of Transit, the next New Adventure. 
I'm sooooo excited- I finally got Love And War, making my collexion complete
(until Transit's US release...).

Thanks!
PS-Any guesses as to what that is depicted on the cover of the Gallifrey
Chronicles? 8^)

Bruce
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From: swbaker@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Texas Bob/Eddie Froman depending on th'moon)
Subject: Deeper meanings of I.M. Foreman
Summary: ... perhaps it means "I Am For Man"
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 13:26:19 GMT

I've been thinking about this for quite some time, and haven't seen anything
posted about it, so here goes:

In the first season of Doctor Who (in particular, "Unearthly Child") we
see the junkyard at Totters' Lane with the name "I. M. Foreman" on the
wood fence.  This re-appears in the McCoy Dalek story (Revelation?).
(This place is where we first see the TARDIS and meet the First Doctor.)

If you pronounce that name with a slight twist on the accents, you can
easily get -- "I Am For Man" -- I feel this is INCREDIBLY insightful
(if they indeed planned it that way) for the Doctor does indeed seem to be
for mankind/humanity/justice in general.  What a great way to set the
tone for an incredible 30+ year journey!

Any thoughts and/or observations on this?

Steve
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From: evans@ece.arizona.edu (Glen Evans)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: David Prowse
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:37:47 GMT
Reply-To: evans@ece.arizona.edu (Glen Evans)
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering


I was watching the Dr. Who episode last week with John Pertwee and
Katy Manning, the one where they battle the Master and try to 
save Atlantis,  the person who played the Minotaur was David Prowse
this seems to be the same person who played Darth Vader in
Star Wars.
From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: The Doctor's Love Interest
Date: 30 Dec 92 20:28:29 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

In article <1992Dec30.215407.23368@news.columbia.edu>, krim@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Karl Rim) writes:
> 
> For those who are confused with the Susan-Grandfather relation between
> the Doctor and Susan, if I remeber she is NOT related in any way to the
> doctor, but rather she calls him Grandfather as a sign of affection.
> If I remember correctly, from the book: The Five Doctors,
> Susan was just another of his companions he picked up and decided that she
> needed schooling and enrolled her into school in England.
> That's where he picked up Ian and Barbara, her school teachers.

There has never been any such indication in the series itself, which is all
that counts, so I consider Susan to still be his real granddaughter.

> 
> As for the subject of a female Doctor, I always thought that ROMONA,
> fit the bill.  After all, in a lot of ways she shares very similar
> qualities.  She's extremely clever and intelligent (in some ways more
> so than the Doctor), she has an air of charisma, class and charm, 
> and most importantly a deep curiosity and a tendency to but into affairs that
> do not concern her.  Opinions?

I've always wanted to see a limited spinoff series about her quest to free
the Tharils in E-space.  'Twould be sweet.

Steven.K.Manfred


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From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: Re: YALEM - "The Time Warrior"
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 02:11:08 GMT

ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu wrote:
>In article <4651@vidiot.UUCP>, brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>> In article <1992Dec28.110606.534@rivers> ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:
>>[editing of videos deleted]
>> Can't blame the problem on Lionheart.  They had nothing to do with it.  All
>> tapes are edited via BBC Enterprises in England.
>I think I most certainly can.  If they were competent, they would watch the
>tapes when they come in and then call England back and say, "Send us a proper
>copy!"  If they did this, then stupid little errors like this or the sound
>FX on "Brain of Morbius" or "Resurrection of the Daleks" wouldn't slip
>through.  

I think you be requiring that Lionheart employ experts for each show to be able
to say something has been edited. New releases clearly say that the videos are
original unedited recordings. I think it's common knowledge that all of the
old releases (i.e. movie format) videos are edited. My way of fighting this is
to buy the new releases and not the old releases. I have everything on tape
already and I'm not going to buy a video just for the sake of a higher quality
movie format tape. The fact that the new releases are episodic is what makes
me buy them. I urge others to do the same. Maybe the difference in sales
numbers might make them re-release the old ones (probably not - what do you do
recall the old ones?).

On the topic of produced videos, I finally got around to getting Tomb. I told
one other person about this problem and his video had it too. In episode 4,
near the beginning, Toberman sits up on a table. The next scene is in front of
the tombs. When the camera zooms in on the tombs (I think the Cybermen are
sealing themselves in), there are several glitches in the scan lines. It is
very easy to see if the problem is there. It lasts about 5 seconds (during the
whole tomb zoom 8-). Can anyone verify it? or should I be returning mine? If
it's there and it's not on the master tape, this makes two CBS/Fox releases
with problems, the other being The War Games (which I know is not on the master
tape). CBS/Fox never replied to my letter about the problem.

I want to do my little bit to keep Doctor Who alive by buying the videos and
maybe a few novels, but I don't want to get screwed by the people who don't
really give a shit about the show, rather just the money.

Tom
From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: YALEM - "The Time Warrior"
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 05:27:24 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:

-
- For Christmas I got three of the older CBS/Fox pre-recorded "Doctor Who"
- videos that I did not previously own.  One of these was "The Time Warrior,"
- and it proved to me what I had suspected for a very long time, that TTW is
- victim of a YALEM, Yet Another Lionheart Editing Mistake.
-
- In every print from Lionheart of this story that I've ever seen, there is
- a scene missing around the point where parts two and three are bridged
- together, where Professor Rubeish releases the Doctor from Linx's
- programmer machine.  Previous to now I wasn't sure if this was in the origina
- or not, and now I see that the scene is indeed there, and Lionheart blew
- it again.
-
- Humbug.
-
- Steven.K.Manfred

Ah! The importance of taping things off the television set at the time of
transmission.

Dave Shariff Yadallee (B. Sc. (Econ/Math) (U of Alberta 1990) )
 (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca, userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
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Happy Christmas and Merry New Year to One and All - John Lennon
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From: price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price)
Subject: Re: Dr Who Computer Game
Reply-To: price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Particle Physics Research Group
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 06:33:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec27.014444.7971@midway.uchicago.edu>, tc26@quads.uchicago.edu (Tim Clark) writes:

	[...posting for Chris Ratliff...]

>	I have just received my copy of DWM 193(?), and I saw the news
>report about the Doctor Who computer game Dalek Attack. Just from what
>I have seen from DWM, makes me want this game. But alas, I need to know 
>any important information about the game, i.e. will it play on my CGA 
>monitor, how much RAM required, etc. But most importantly, where can I
>find it? Is it only available in Great Britian, or can I go to Egghead
>Software and find it?

There is a game with a title similar to this (similar enough that I can't 
remember if it's the right one) that is available as shareware on the Mac.  
The game is amusing for a while, but gets old quickly.  You are in a 
playing field of a given size (30x50, say), and you have to keep from being 
hit by the Daleks.  At the same time, you have to destroy them, using the 
well-known (<grin>) method of tricking them into running into each other.  
This is feasible because they are programmed to move toward you at every 
step.

It gets very challenging at the higher levels (unless there's a trick I 
don't know about), but there isn't much point to it.

           John Price * * * * price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu
           Where there is no solution, there is no problem.
From: ensalada@cats.ucsc.edu (Kevin Charles Rubio)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: The Doctor's Love Interest
Date: 30 Dec 1992 02:41:17 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Reply-To: keeper@deeptht.armory.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


In article <piiro01.725661303@convex> piiro01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Dave Rodriguez) writes:
>episode when she leaves him. Furthermore, I believe in Timelash it's revealed 
>that the Doctor keeps a locket with her picture in it. 

That's not quite right.

The locket with Jo's picture in it was given to Katz's father by Jo herself.

(That's according to Katz, of course.)

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From: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Subject: old dw adventures...
Reply-To: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 30 Dec 92 01:52:52 EST

Your description of another Traken-related story sounds interesting...
is there any chance of your writing this with the 7th Doctor as a New
Adventure?
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From: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re:  Time Lord RPG, Transit
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 02:06:42 EST
Reply-To: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy)
Organization: Lakes Public Access

alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith) writes:

> FASA are still in perfect working order (they publish the very popular
> Battletech series of games/books), but they lost the Dr Who licence a few
> years ago (nobody ever revealed the reason). There's a new Dr Who RPG
> called "Time Lord", published by Virgin in 1991 (ISBN 0-426-20362-3). It's
> simpler than the FASA game (basically, it's aimed primarily at DW fans
> rather than RPG fans), and I recommend it (I've got both games).

FASA is indeed very much alive and well.  They make the very popular RPG 
Shadowrun.
From: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Talons of Weng-Chiang
Date: 23 Dec 1992 18:37:43 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
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In a previous article, chips@eskimo.com (:crp:) says:

>i missed the show in the subject. Did anything happen that i should/need to
>know in order to enjoy and understand the next show?

Not really, but "Talon's" is the very best Doctor Who story ever told
(at least IMO) so if you ever get the opportunity, you should watch
it (it's available on legal video).

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From: motsuk@cua.edu (Paul Motsuk)
Subject: New Adventure Books (w/ ISBNs)
Organization: The Catholic University of America
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 01:46:16 GMT

'lo there

   Here's a list of the Dr. Who New Adventures books.  I've included the
ISBNs.

    Title                       Author           ISBN
    -----                       ------           ----
Timewyrm: Genesys              John Peel       0 426 20355 0
Timewyrm: Exodus               Terrance Dicks  0 426 20357 7
Timewyrm: Apocalypse           Nigel Robinson  0 426 20359 3
Timewyrm: Revelation           Paul Cornell    0 426 20360 7

Cat's Cradle: Times' Crucible  Marc Platt      0 426 20365 8
Cat's Cradle: Warhead          Andrew Cartmel  0 426 20367 4
Cat's Cradle: Witch Mark       Andrew Hunt     0 426 20368 2

Nightshade                     Mark Gatiss     0 426 20376 3

Love and War                   Paul Cornell

Alas, _Nightshade_ is the latest for which I have complete information.

                     Paul

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From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Dr Who Movie
Date: 3 Jan 93 21:31:16 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

> 
> (BTW, are you *really* sure that the Johnny Byrne who wrote here, was the
> *real* Johnny Byrne?  After all, do recall one of the main tenets of net
> life - Don't take people with celebrity names seriously, because they
> probably aren't...  Heck, I was once on a board where someone was claiming
> to be the British singer, Nik Kershaw(!)  We *sure* believed *him* all
> right...NOT!).
> 

If you're listening Johnny, let him know....

Yes, it was him.  Don't ask how I know, I don't want to go back into
the gory details of last month's mess again...

Steven.K.Manfred

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"Just with the rest of you being wrong," answered Avon.


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From: amichiel@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Allen J Michielsen)
Subject: Re: The Scarf--need pattern, please
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 18:34:51 EST



A request was made for the official scarf pattern here.  One was posted,
and I received it.  However, I heard that several other versions of 
directions existed, several also -official-.  Looking at the official
one I have, it does NOT match the pictures I have.  I is close.
I everybody could post &/or send me copies of the version they have,
I'd appreciate it, and I would post a complete list of all available
scarf patterns, along with _my_ opinion of which was closest.
I have also scaled the patter I do have down from about 10 feet (3Meters)
by 15 inches (38 cm) to about 6 1/2 feet (2 meters) by 12 inches (30 cm),
if anybody is interested in that version as well.

al
From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: some dates needed
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 05:42:59 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson) writes:

- Estimated some dates if you know them:
-
- 1. year when UNIT was created

  between 1971 to 1975

- 2. last known year that UNIT existed (i.e. what's the latest date in a story
-    that UNIT definitely still exists)

  1999

- 3. year in The War Machines

   1965 opr 1966
-
- I think UNIT was created some time before when The Invasion took place. I
- have no idea about #2.
-
- Tom

  Hope this helps Tom.

  Sources: DWM.

  The advantages of having a r.a.dw timeline people.

Dave Shariff Yadallee (B. Sc. (Econ/Math) (U of Alberta 1990) )
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From: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Subject: dw latest cd's & guide
Reply-To: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 28 Dec 92 03:20:04 EST

 I picked up two DW CD's today. They are: "DW - Earthshock" (FILMCD 709)
and "DW - The Five Doctors" (FILMCD 710). These are the CD versions of
the previously released "DW - The Music" and "DW - The Music II".
 An interesting and pleasant format. Instead of a one whole story CD
with repitious incidental music tracks, they have taken many stories and
use a good selection of their music from each. Very unlike the "Fenric"
and "Greatest Show" CD's (which are _very_ repitious).

Briefly, the stories from which music is taken on The Five Doctors are:
Enlightment (7:54), The King's Demons (5:21), The Five Doctors (8:44),
Warriors of the Deep (3:54), The Awakening (3:26), Ressurection of the
Daleks (5:02), Planet of Fire (3:55), The Caves of Androzani (6:05) and
the DW Theme from the beginning of season 18. Time of each track ^.

 Stories from the Earthshock CD are: The Sea Devils, Meglos, Inferno
(not in stereo, all others are), The Keeper of Traken, Four To Doomsday,
The Leisure Hive, Arc of Infinity, Warrior's Gate, Kinda, Snakedance
and, of course, Earthshock. It also includes the DW Theme music (opener
and reprise) used from before season 18. Note: I didn't include track
times this time because they are broken up to multiple tracks for each
story (lazy typist 'tis I).

These two CD's would prove an interesting addition to your DW library!

Other noteworthy DW CD's: "The 25th Anniversary CD" and "Variations on a
Theme" (4 tracks only). The latter is for the more experimental type of
person (nice, though).


 Something else I bought today:

 "The Universal Databank" by Jean-Marc Lofficier. ISBN 0-426-20370-4
This is the third book in his "Programme Guide" `trilogy'. It's a quite
impressive update the the original "Doctor Who - Programme Guide, Vol. 1
-  What's What and Who's Who". 479 pages, which includes 7 pages listing
the errors he made previously (common practice by now).
 One complaint, which is left over from his "Terrestrial Index" - He
continues to rewrite the times that some stories took place. ie: He
based all the U.N.I.T. stories' time of ocurrance on Mawdryn Undead. :(
Wrong, wrong, wrong. But, I will not get as upset this time 'round.

That's all for now.

Happy New Year!!

Regards,
Dale Clayton
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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Attention r.a.dw netters
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 05:11:46 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Glen evans and Phillip Crabtree, please get in touch with me.

James Armstrong, Mike "Vidiot" Brown, Frank Durda IV and Jim Miller; I have to
see to all 4 of you at once.

Dave Shariff Yadallee (B. Sc. (Econ/Math) (U of Alberta 1990) )
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From: meshkin@sol.cs.wmich.edu (the eternal link.)
Subject: Re: New Adventure Books (w/ ISBNs)
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:58:04 GMT

motsuk@cua.edu (Paul Motsuk) writes:

>Alas, _Nightshade_ is the latest for which I have complete information.

OK, my copy gives 0-426-20385-2 for the ISBN number.
Enjoy!

>Paul Motsuk -- Systems Programming -- The Catholic University of America
>motsuk@cua.edu  (preferred)   OR  motsuk@cua.bitnet

	-Chris.
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