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From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)
Subject: Re: Speaking of code...
Organization: very little
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:51:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.172003.28518@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> whs70@dancer.cc.bellcore.com (sohl,william h) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.082346.17640@ssc.com> tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov9.031130.27657@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl) writes:
>>>First, most "proponents" in this discussion have not proposed a full
>>>"no code" HF license.  They have continued to ask for a valid 
>>>justification for the 13 wpm requirement.  None has yet to be aired
>>>by anyone.
>>>
>>>Second, absent any validity on an international basis and/or for 
>>>a valid domestic requirement, then yes...the 13wpm code requirement
>>>is, indeed, comparable to "hazing" or it is simply an "arbitrary"
>>>requirement.
>>
>>By that standard, ANY testing requirement is arbitrary.  That way
>>if we have any code speed requirement, you can declare it arbitrary
>>and demand reasons why it shouldn't be lowered.
>
>No, by that standard, general radio theory is certainly still a
>requirment as is knowledge of the federal regulations, and electrical
>safety.  Likewise some familiarity with the modes of operation is
>still a valid testing item.


Not by your standard it isn't.  Applying the same logic, you could
demand elimination or easing of any part of the written test.

   BUT, a testing
>requirement IS arbitrary if it is not related to the use of 
>the license for which it is a requirement.  For HF operation, there
>is a requirement "for knowledge of Morse code" by international
>agreement.  There is no international agreement that requires anything
>near 13wpm, nor has there been any justification aired in this newsgroup
>as to the validity of requiring US hams to develop 13wpm reading ability
>as a prerequisite to using non-CW modes in HF (excluding Novice 10m SSB).


.....just like there is no international requirement concerning
exactly what has to be on the written test, nor the level of
knowledge required.

Hence my claim that by applying this standard, ANY part of the test
can be declared aribitrary and continually dumbed-down.

>
>Let me also state that if I did gain HF privaledges with a 5wpm
>code speed and I decided to do some CW operation,
>I'd likely "hang out" in the novice CW bands while
>I became more proficient at CW before venturing into the "general"
>CW band segments.

Good plan!  Give it a try.





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From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Uniden HR2600 mod?
Keywords: uniden 2600 hr2600 modification
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:00:06 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

I have checked FTP and other sources, and have not found
a modification for the Uniden HR2600 10m rig that will extend
its frequency coverage.  I would like to be able to receive
CB while out on the road.  (I am not interested in transmitting
on CB.)  I have found mods for power output and packet work,
but not for frequency extension.

The latest volume (vol. 5) of the Artsci Radio/Tech Modifications
book says that "you must replace the microprocessor."  I have
no idea where I can get the replacement part or how much it would
be, nor does it look easy to solder a new microprocessor into the rig.

73 DE KK6MY

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Project Manager, MIS Sales/Marketing Systems    uunet!pyramid!infmx!randall
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap,misc.emerg-services
From: petey@selway.umt.edu (Peter G Efroymson)
Subject: KING VHF handheld radio for sale
Followup-To: poster or rec.radio.swap
Keywords: KING handheld radio sale
Organization: University of Montana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:09:52 GMT

Hi there. I have a Bendix King LPH vhf handheld for sale.
This radio comes with accesseries. The asking Price is$550.00
The reason I must part with it is I need the money for school tuition.
Ireally don't want to sell it,however I seem to have no choice.
To sumarize:
King Mph 5143 14ch vhf---{this unit is re-configued for access to 2m}
DTMF installed
Metel housing{the MPH is just a LPH with the metel case}
LAA0207 Speaker/mic {the NEW one}
8 hour hi perforence battery LAA0125
Swivel type case made of leather with cutouts for keypad and screen
trickle type 14hr charger

If you know anything about a king, this is a heck of a buy.
The radio is FIELD prgramable with a cloning key.

Call me at 406-721-9630 or Email me at petey@selway.umt.edu or
                                       po__pge@lewis.umt.edu
From: jtn0445@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: New Icom dualbander HT (IC-X21)
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:33:06 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

Have anyone seem the new ICOM handheld IC-X21 yet ???
All I know that, it is nice small dual-bander like IC-2SA with a large
display and the keypad is located on the hand microphone ... etc.,

.. Jason, N2NYU
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: pascoe@rocky.gte.com (Dave Pascoe)
Subject: Solar Geophysical data pub/NIST?
Organization: GTE/MSED - Needham Heights, MA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:24:53 GMT

Would someone please e-mail me the NIST address to write to for
the Solar Geophysical Data summary report mailing list?  This is the
report with the picture of the sun on the cover, if I remember correctly.

--
Dave Pascoe KM3T
Internet: pascoe@rocky.gte.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Kirk.Smith@launchpad.unc.edu (Kirk Smith)
Subject: Larsen Antenna Question
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:57:35 GMT

I'm seriously considering taking the plunge and drilling holes in my 1990
Isuzu Trooper to mount two antennas.  I'm tired of shoddy performance
from rubber-ducks inside the vehicle, and expect to upgrade to a dedicated
mobile rig eventually.

I'm planning on using NMO mounts, since they seem fairly standard, and
using 1/4 wave whips for now, figuring I can upgrade to something with
gain later if I get a windfall of cash or really need the gain.

So what do I need to order?  The new AES catalog arrived today, and I'm
perousing the Larsen section, and have these questions:

With the NMO-K, how much coax is included, and with what kind of coax
is it (presumably RG-58 w/PL-259?).  Is this the item I want?  How
much mounting depth does it need?  I have no idea what the car looks like
under the headliner, and if I'm going to take it down, I only want to do it
once.

I'm looking at the NMOQ-Spec-B antennas.  I definately want black antennas,
and I assume I can just trim one for 2m and one for 440, right?  Most of
the NMO antennas I've seen have the antenna whip as a permanent part
of the screw in (er.female) NMO.  If I trim these, will I be left with
a cut end in the air w/o the little ball on the end?  Or does this Larsen
allow one to trim it at the mount (ie: disassemble the rod from the mount,
trim, reassemble, and screw it onto the car mount?)?

Any and all info would be appreciated.  Also, if others have mounted
antennas on an Isuzu Trooper, please email with any tips you can
provide.

-ks

--
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     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
           internet:  laUNChpad.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
From: oo7@ut-emx.uucp (Derek Wills)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: license classes
Keywords: not quite
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:04:04 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas

oppedahl@panix.com (Carl Oppedahl) says:

                 (much deleted)

>>5 wpm code required:  Novice, General, Advanced, Extra
>>13 wpm code required:  General, Advanced, Extra
>>20 wpm code required:  Extra

Not quite.  You do not have to take the 5 or 13 wpm code test for Extra class,
nor the 5 wpm test for General, Advanced or Extra class.  There is a reasonable
assumption that if you can copy CW at 20 wpm, you could also do it at 5 or 13 
wpm if challenged.  At the place I was tested, they did the 20 wpm test first, 
so you could save some time if you wanted to get everything out of the way in 
one visit.    This is probably a Good Thing, because if you are happy copying
20 wpm, you can fall asleep between letters at 5 wpm and fail the test.

The written material is supposed to test different things on different exams, 
so you do have to take all of those in series.   Even Extra class hams have to 
go through the Ohm's Law hazing on the Novice written test.


Derek Wills (AA5BT, G3NMX)
Department of Astronomy, University of Texas, 
Austin TX 78712.  (512-471-1392)
oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu 
oo7@emx.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: mleech@bnr.ca (Marcus Leech)
Subject: Re: Radio Astronomy?
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Information Techology Division
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 16:13:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.192942.24734@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, sbbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephen B. Brown) writes:
|> [stuff deleted].  New Zealand is somewhat remote from
|> Ohio, but you might check with more local observatories.
When I was in NZ a few years ago (1989), I visited several optical observatories
  and asked the same question at each one "know of any radio astronomy
  going on in NZ".  There were a few smallish experiments out of
  Christchurch [fuzzy recollection], but nothing substantial.

It's a shame, really.  The south island of NZ is sparsley populated, and
  has some *excellent* spots for big radio telescopes.  Sigh.

-- 
Marcus Leech, 4Y11             Bell-Northern Research  |opinions expressed
mleech@bnr.ca                  P.O. Box 3511, Stn. C   |are my own, and not
ml@ve3mdl.ampr.org             Ottawa, ON, CAN K1Y 4H7 |necessarily BNRs
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Which band?
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:33:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.035935.17878@news.columbia.edu> hyx1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Harry Y Xu) writes:
>In article <19921117.AA06253@tilde.csc.ti.com> dube@cpdvax.CSc.ti.COM writes:
>>Harry Xu asked how to find out which band was best for certain states.
>>Used to be that you could simply tune around on one band and then another, 
>>listening for the call sign numbers for the general area you wanted.
>>73,
>>Dube                     AB5AP              <dube@cpdvax.csc.ti.com>
>
>Tnx fer the suggestion, I think it works ane I'll try it.  but...
>Does anyone here know a more "scientific" method of band selecting?
>73,

Sure. Use MiniMUF in conjunction with the solar data transmitted by
WWV. Operate on the band closest to, but below, the predicted MUF
and you have your best chance of success.

Gary KE4ZV
From: hpb@hpb.cis.pitt.edu (Harry Bloomberg)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Usefulness of Morse Code
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:31:06 GMT
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.policy
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


In article <1992Nov19.170827.4509@mixcom.com> kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com (kevin.jessup) writes:
>
>The point is that some "traditions" belong in the history books.
>If you want to use them, fine.  But making them a requirement
>sacrifices time that could have been better spent learning
>newer technologies.  THAT IS WHAT WILL ADVANCE HAM RADIO!
>
   Yet another tradition that is being carried forward is the discussing of
licensing matters in rec.radio.amateur.misc.  Making use of
rec.radio.amateur.policy will greatly advance the Usenet state of the art.

Harry Bloomberg
hpb@vms.cis.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: cole@concert.net (Derrick C. Cole)
Subject: Is This Really Necessary?
Organization: MCNC Data Operations
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:45:01 GMT

I don't know which is more pointless:  this post, or the situation behind the
post.

Last Friday evening, I tuned in on 40m.  I was able to make two Pacific Coast
contacts (one in Washington, the other in California, farthest yet for me on
40) that evening!  I left the radio on the same frequency all weekend, mostly
listening, to see what else I could dig up.

Late Sunday morning, I turn the rig on to listen.  A QSO was in progress that
lasted about another hour, then cleared.  I was doing other things in the room,
and the rig stayed on frequency.  During the next 90 minutes or so, I heard
almost a dozen people ask if the frequency was in use.  Immediately, a station
(the same every time) would come back saying it was, thank you for asking, then
silence (until the next inquisitor came along.)

The odd thing was, nobody was using the frequency (as far as I could tell.)  By
what right does someone camp out on a frequency that's obviously in demand and
claim it's busy when it's obviously not?  Use it or lose it, bud.

73 de KC4WEJ,
Derrick (curious ham, not ham cop personified)

P.S.:  What's with all the crap on 14.313, anyway?

-- 
"1. Car phone has direct line to AAA."
                       -- Top Ten Signs You've Bought A Bad Car
-----
Derrick Cole              KC4WEJ              MCNC Center for Communications
From: myers@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Myers)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:15:56 GMT
Subject: Re: Linear Loading of antennas
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
From: a-kevinp@microsoft.COM (Kevin Purcell, Rho)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: IC-(delta)1A
Date: 21 Nov 92 21:55:40 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

IC-(delta)1A Icom's new handheld. What a lousy name to type on the internet.

Back page ad for this beastie on the Dec CQ. And they even show it at 
an unflattering angle so you can see how thick it is (somebody else 
mentioned this before).

They also claim a first: Cross Band Double Duplex (sounds like an 
ice-skating term to me!). Is this just regular duplex with bells on? 
The add is not very informative on this point.

Why did they keep denying that it existed, they had an ad in press?

73 de Kevin Purcell N7WIM/G8UDP (Seattle, WA)          a-kevinp@microsoft.com
Do your interests match mine? If so call me. I'd like to hear from you.
QRP, Packet, TCP/IP, Digital voice, Macintosh, Spread Spectrum, Homebrew,
Satellites, Antenna design, Propagation, VHF/UHF weak signal, Microwave, QEX
From: tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Famous or well known HAMS
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:25:26 GMT
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

<1546@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM> <11266@platypus.uofs.uofs.edu>
Reply-To: tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton)
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC
Keywords: 

In article <11266@platypus.uofs.uofs.edu> bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
writes:
>A)  Marlon Brando is not his legal name.
>B)  His island retreat is Tahiti where he spent a lot of time filming
>    Mutiny on the Bounty.
>C)  If you have an old US Callbook, you can look him up.  Look for the
>    French spelling of Brando.  I don't remember exactly what it is.
>    You need an old Callbook because when he officially decided to retire
>    to his island home, he let his American license expire.  I believe he
>    can be found in the DX Callbook, however.

signature deleted...

If you look in a 1992 DX Callbook, right there under FO5GJ is 
(if I remember the spelling, looked it up last night) Martin Brandeaux.
His only address is the island name that he owns.

73, Tom WB4IUX

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: sknapp@iastate.edu (Steven M. Knapp)
Subject: Re: 15 minute quick charge Ni-Cad RC Racing batteries to power an HT?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 11:25:22 GMT


Ok, so you could charge your battery in 15 minutes. I have heard of similar
chargers for cordless power-drills. The big question is how long can you wait?

My HT's batterys charge in about an hour and last (83S-750mah) the better part
of a day. EVEN so, the spare I have will more than last the hour it takes to
charge.

Fast charging works, but you loose out on the efective life of the battery.
Would it not be cheeper to buy an extra battery or 2 if you need the capacity?

Just my $.02...
-- 
________________________________________________________________________ 
Steven M. Knapp		                    Computer Engineering Student
sknapp@iastate.edu	            President Cyclone Amateur Radio Club
Iowa State University; Ames, IA           Durham Center Operations Staff
From: RHAREL@FAB8.INTel.COM (RICHARD HAREL)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: DSP filters - recommendations ?
Date: 17 Nov 92 08:36:47 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

Can someone recommend a good DSP audio filter for
HF- SSB and digital modes (AMTOR, RTTY, PACKET) operation ?
I saw the article in QST a few months ago on a DSP
filter available in kit form. Is it any good ?
Has anyone made a comparison between what's out there ?
Is there a filter that has the basic DSP circuitry
with a communications port to load different programs
depending on what application it is being used for ?
Any feedback is appreciated.
73,
Rich
WB2JBS
From: ahm@spatula.rent.com (Andreas Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Famous or well known HAMS
Date: 17 Nov 92 06:12:47 GMT
Reply-To: ahm@spatula.rent.com (Andreas Meyer)
Organization: A kitchen utensil somewhere in central New Jersey


Anyone mention these yet? (Sorry, I don't have their callsigns)


Cliff Stoll, astronomer and author of _The Cuckoo's Egg_
Dr. Richard Feynman, (SK) physicist

Cheers,
Andy (not famous, YET)
-- 
 Andreas Meyer, N2FYE      ahm@spatula.rent.com     "Been there. Did that."
From: hpb@hpb.cis.pitt.edu (Harry Bloomberg)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Usefulness of Morse Code
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:38:08 GMT
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.policy
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Nov19.145407.5968@ryn.mro4.dec.com> taber@ultnix.mro1.dec.com (Patrick St. Joseph Teahan Taber) writes:
>
>There are only two realistic choices available to hams -- keep the requirement
>or dump it.  Talking about replacing it with some rocco scheme that will
>"insure" hams have some operating experience is hopelessly naive. 
>
   There's a third chioce - make postings like this to
rec.radio.amateur.policy.  The policy group is not at all rocco.  Using
".misc" for discussions of the CW requirement is downright retro.

73,
Harry Bloomberg WA3TBL
hpb@vms.cis.pitt.edu
From: jangus@skyld.UUCP (Jeff Angus)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Clueless people
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 08:14:50 GMT
Organization: Grendel's Lair

> >From: aksurf@caltech.edu (Axel)
> Subject: Jun's Electronics
> Date: 12 Nov 92 23:47:23 GMT
> Organization: California Institute of Technology
>
> I am posting this as a warning to other people regarding the service at a
> HAM radio store in Los Angeles. This regards Jun's electronics on Sepulveda
> in Culver City.
>
> I recently bought an AEA fax at Jun's. As I was very dissatisfied with the
> package, I decided to return it. However, it was past the 10 days allowed
> to get a refund. They did give me a refund, albeit only $54 of the original
> $90+tax I payed.
>
> What burns me is that the guy had the audacity of telling me he can't sell
> it as new, but will only sell it as a demo. When I purchased the unit
> originally, it was obvious that someone else had used it before. There were
> pencil marks in the manual and the box was taped with an old piece of
> masking tape. Being very tolerant I didn't go back to complain (not to
> mention it wasn't worth the drive)
> I returned that thing cleaner and in better condition than when I bought
> it!
>
> Hey, I have had enough of crooks, dishonesty and poor service. I hope this
> will serve as a warning to anyone. Buy only from reputable mail order
> outfits. These local HAM stores are a real dissapointment.
>
>
>                          Axel

Another happy customer. Why did he wait so long to return it? What was the
reason for disatisfaction? Why didn't he notice the tape at the time of
purchase?

Ya know, it's people like Axel that remind me why I'm glad that I am not a
service manager anymore. Yeah, a full year as the service manager of Diawa
USA. Everyday I would get some clueless <expletive-deleted> call up and rant
about what a piece of crap our such and such was because it didn't perform
to his specifications instead of the published specifications.

Hey Axel, if you think Jun's is bad, you should take some time and drop in at
Henry Radio on South Bundy Drive. You will fit right in with the sales team.
Arrogant, self-important, incompetent and other terms of general uselessness.

Try and get somebody to wait on you. Then try and get technical information on
the product you want. See if they even know what you want or who makes it. You
may have to pull out a copy of that venerable advertising brochure QST to prove
it really exists. See if you can hold thier attention long enough to buy more
than one item. Then when you're finished, see if you can read the receipt.

I'll give them credit for one thing, they do have an unconditional return
policy. But that's probably because no one in the store could tell whether or
not the unit was working correctly. Or if not, why not.

If you want sympathy, check you call book and look up Dale, N6JSX. You two can
sit around and commiserate about how EVERYONE is out to steal your money.

Have a nice day! 73 es GE from Jeff
--
xenon!skyld!jangus   < .sig on vacation until winter solstice >
J Angus, PO Box 4425, Carson CA 90749-4425 voice (310) 324-6080
From: garnet@borland.com (Garnet Chaney)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: famous hams
Keywords: HAM AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:07:55 GMT
Organization: Borland International, Inc.
Originator: garnet@genghis.borland.com

In article <83917@ut-emx.uucp> oo7@ut-emx.uucp (Derek Wills) writes:
>
>  Can I operate my HT from an aircraft, if I had one (an HT, that is)?
>

On a commercial aircraft, probably not. On a private airplane, maybe. The
rules say that you must have the permission of the pilot in charge, but
that your radio must also have been given a special certification that
it will not cause any harmful interference.....
From: JMG%TNTECH.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu (Jeff M. Gold)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Club License Question
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:21:56 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

Help, please.

We at Tennessee Tech. U. have a question about club
licensing.  Our current trustee is getting quite on in years
and would like to give up the trusteeship.  When applying
for a new trusteeship, does the club get the license class
of the new trustee (ex:if trustee has an Advanced..club has
advanced)?

Thanks

73s de Cookeville,TN
Jeff Gold,AC4HF