HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: grinch@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Dave Ferguson)
Subject: Re: being "in love"
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC., Orleans (Ont)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:52:19 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.180304.21112@midway.uchicago.edu> h431@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>Anyway, what I want to ask you net.people is whether you think that their
>are people who have never experienced erotic love for anybody, same or
>opposite sex?

Yup...*moi*!!

At the tender age of 2*, I have never been in love.  That does not mean that
I am still in the dark about my sexuality -- I've reached my conclusions
based on the fact that I'm attracted sexually to men.  Love has nothing to
do with it.  I thought I might have been on the verge of falling in love with
a motss once, but then he dropped me like a hot potato. )-8

>And do you think the invocation of "love" is a good or bad technique for
>convincing the sceptical straight-person?

Hard to say.  Personally, I don't feel the need to bring such a strong
emotion into it.  Love and sexual attraction are two distinct emotions,
although (from what I hear) the two are much more gratifying when 
experienced together.  I don't bother trying to "convince" sceptics that
what I feel is real...if they don't believe me that's their problem, not
mine. 

-- 
 D.C.X. Ferguson            ____  ____  ____   "It is not difference which 
 grinch@micor.ocunix.on.ca  \  /  \  /  \  /  immobilizes us, but silence. 
                             \/    \/    \/  And there are so many silences
 Ottawa, Ontario, Canada                    to be broken." -Audre Lorde
From: fenthe@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: My first Triangle
Date: 15 Oct 92 07:40:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: drycas.1992Oct15.124005.2266
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

In article <Bw3t49.Ao5@cck.coventry.ac.uk>, idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid) writes:
> Or kill me.
> (Now, will anyone get *that* reference?)

 Wow! A chance to be erudite! (yeah, right.. well, as erudite as I'm ever
likely to get, at any rate) -- Book Of The SubGenius, no? or alternatively,
alt.slack, for those who prefer their literature net-based..

-- 
Daniel Mitchell = Fenthe Marten = fenthe@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu =
m91djm@ecs.ox.ac.uk = dmitchell@cix.compulink.co.uk = bi furry juggler
Snailmail: 18, High St // Earls Colne // Essex CO6 2PA // ENGLAND
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: alan@ninja.osf.org (Alan Hamilton)
Subject: New bi newsletter (prices included in this posting)
Originator: alan@pluto.osf.org
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:43:51 GMT

[Sent to soc.bi, soc.motss, BiAct-L, Bisexu-l, BiFem-l.]
(re-posted because the shell deleted 23725price)

CUBN has decided that their newsletter is good enough to let people
outside their community know about it.

| "The Bi Monthly" newsletter, published monthly by the Champaign-Urbana
| Bisexual Network, c/o McKinely Foundation, 809 South Fifth Street,
| Illinois 61820, USA.  1-year subscription (10 issues) US2372510 (US237257 with
| valid University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign campus mail address.)

maso@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Maria Maso) writes:
> In each issue I try to include informative articles,
> local as well as national news, a book or film review, poetry, gossip
> (there is a local woman that writes a gossip column) and if we can get
> our act together an advice column.  We also include write ups of the
> discussion, a calendar of events, and a directory of local as well as
> nation bi/ bi friendly groups.

Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: jclark@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (John Clark)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: I am not a bisexual!!!!
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:00:30 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1atir2INNme5@agate.berkeley.edu> rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport) writes:
+
+Had it happen really for the first time last night, when my FSO got around
+to telling me how she felt about polyamory ... Something along the lines of
+"polyamory is a vicious, foolish, destructive way of life.  I know that you
+think that there's something wrong with me, but remember, most of the world
+has felt this way for a long time.  To the rest of us, there's something
+wrong with all of you."

The factoid, "75% of identified distinct cultures permit polygamy",
needs to be conditioned by how the 'culture' is defined and a
definition of 'polygamy'. The remaining 'monogamous' cultures
usually allow the male more partners without too much censure. So
that leaves a very small percentage of cultures which adhere to
strict monogamy. In addition, the serial polygamy as practiced in
most western european countries, leaves virtually no cultures
outside of some religious sects, strictly monogamous.

The point of polyamory is to develop an ethical basis of
multipartnered relationship which is based on equal choice and
participation of both sexes, unlike the unilateral forms practiced
by males around the world.


-- 

John Clark
jclark@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: alan@osf.org (Alan Hamilton)
Subject: Re: Being un-cuddly (was Re: BiCon details ?)
Organization: Open Software Foundation
	<1992Oct15.124918.2267@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu>
	<1992Oct16.124658.13023@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk>
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:22:15

fenthe@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
> At least, I'd assume this is why I don't seem to be being even
> remotely cuddly of late, going on recent experience.. <sigh>
> (6'1", 9st -> 126lbs -> 57kg. Pfeh.)

SA121@phx.cam.ac.uk (Arrowsmith) writes:
> Well, that scales to about the same as me (5'10" and 52kg) and I agree
> that it's much too skinny, and have similar experimental evidence for
> being un-cuddly....

Ye Ghods!  You both sound exquisitely cuddly to me!

<pounce> *lick*  <snuggles> *hugs* <tongue in ear> *tickle*


<swoon>  (somebody catch me!  - hint, hint ;-)

If you're coming Boston way, be sure to let me know.  I'd love to get
together to cuddle!


So, how many other people here like skinny men?  I have not been
skinny since I was a wee babe, but I think skinny men are very cute
and cuddly.  Actually, I have a "wide dynamic range."  I like people
of many different types.  "Skinny male" is definitely one of them, and
I have a special attraction to "short&skinny" and to "tall&skinny."

-Alan
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: dbshapco@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Brad Shapcott)
Subject: Re: Two women (and other stuff)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 11:26:55 GMT

In article <Bw52Kr.9sC@ibmpcug.co.uk> gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal) writes:
>
>Am I alone in thinking this article was deliberate flame-fodder?  Probably
>an unattended terminal... (I'm sure they have them in Zuid Afrika too...)
>
>G
>-- 


Well, on the one hand it could be.

But having met people like this during my last school term (down to the
part about being absolutely clueless about why lesbians don't figure in
FMF 3somes) it could be authentic.  (Sad but true.)

Maybe they should write a book for gay woman, "101 Things To Do With a Straight
Male".  It would be interesting, and I'm sure sex *wouldn't* be among the
101 items.


Brad

Just popping in via the miracle of telnet.  I am following you folks from time
to time, but I've got (1) a local news server that expires *overnight*,
(2) a local new server which won't allow connect-backs for news replies,
(3) no mail access, *EXCEPT* through telnet to my student account at
Waterloo, which inside of 7 - 6  has a three or four second delay on key
presses (the wonders of the electronic age, one step forward and two steps
back).  And I'm not often in outside of 7 - 6, cuz else people around
here would start thinking of me as dedicated and management material, or
some such awful thing ("Nope, sorry, I'm just a big queer reading news,
although I can understand the confusion.")

Anyways, as I speak the telnet connection is getting slower and s l o w e r,
so y'all take care . . .
From: pclary@mushroom.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Edinburgh Muffin Pops up in Bay Area
Date: 15 Oct 92 02:26:42 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo, CA - aka Barnum & Bailey

adc@threel.co.uk (Alan "D." Culloch) wrote...
>
>Eeek.  Just a quickie, I'm afraid, since it's 10.45pm and I still need to
>get home and pack before getting to the airport for 8.15 tomorrow morning.

$%$#%$#%^%$#!!!
This is what I get for not keeping up with news (I've got to stop 
having a life... that's it.)  Does anybody know how to get in touch
with cutie Alan while he's here?  He's only here till the 18th so
let me know soon.

Of course if he wears those pink overalls I should be able to see him
from afar...

Ellen
From: ngervae@next.com (Nik Gervae)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Femme/Butch in Bisexuality
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:07:39 GMT

Hmm. Your definitions make some sense to me, although I don't really
feel that I fall into one or the other. I definitely go for what you
described as butch more than for femme, though. On the other hand, I
won't tolerate macho idiocy in a man, and it's often quite difficult
to tell the difference between macho and butch (as you've given it),
at first anyway. And I have fallen for macho idiots in the past. :-)

Similarly, though I've never felt attracted to women near the degree
I feel attracted to men, I find extremely "feminine" women downright
uninteresting. So basically I guess I'm agreeing with you, in that I
don't go for either gender sterotype in either women or men; anybody
with a healthy sense of self and an assertive (as opposed to passive
or aggressive) personality is quite attractive to me, though. My one
unsolved puzzle so far is whether my attraction to women really is a
sexual one, or whether it's simply aesthetic, like watching sunsets.

--
Nik "down with societal roles!" Gervae
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Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: cjmchale@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale)
Subject: Re: Change is GOOD!!!
Organization: DSG, Dept. of Computer Science, Trinity College Dublin
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 15:12:07 GMT

In <92283.172624PJS137@psuvm.psu.edu> PJS137@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>Who's says that three is a crowd?  However it was probably never had the
>opportunity to really enjoy the experience.  I feel that three way interaction
>is the ONLY way to go.  What do you think???????

Any biblical number is likely to produce good results. Having already
tried 3, you should also consider 7 and 40.


Ciaran.
-- 
Ciaran McHale                                                             ----
Department of Computer Science, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland.       \bi/
Telephone: +353-1-7021539 FAX: +353-1-772204 email: cjmchale@dsg.cs.tcd.ie \/
From: mlloyd@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Lloyd)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: for play
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:38:21 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) writes:
>In article <26778@castle.ed.ac.uk> mlloyd@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Lloyd) writes:
>>tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver) writes:
>>>huh! I masturbate as well as the next person |-)
>
>>Okay, a challenge.  The soc.bi self-pleasing marathon.
>
>Umm...Mike?  I'm a little handicapped here - I've got repetitive motion
>syndrome, and when I masturbate more than 5-6 times, my wrist hurts
>quite a bit.  Can I use mechanical devices?

Nope.  However, I'll gladly lend you a hand ...

Mike, "well what else can one say?" :-)
-- 
Mike Lloyd                         | B0/1 h- f- t w- c g+ k(+) s m- e? 
Retro-hippy, music nut, bi and     | "The Trouble with Normal is it
owner of a one-track mind:         |  Always Gets Worse" - Bruce Cockburn
   "thesis .. thesis .. thesis"    |    (-:   F**k Your Gender!  :-)
From: tal@plts.uucp (Tom Limoncelli)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: NJ/NYC bisocial!
Date: 13 Oct 1992 22:07:53 -0400
Organization: P.L.T.S., North Plainfield, New Jersey, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: plts.uucp

In <1992Oct7.151450.10301@Warren.MENTORG.COM> tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli) writes:

>Don't forget!  Thursday (Oct 8) the Bisexual Network of New Jersey is
>hosting a bisocial.  It should be easy to get to from Manhattan and New
>Jersey.

By the way, the social was a failure.  Hardly anyone showed up.  I was
really disappointed.  Since I live in New Jersey (and constantly try to
make NYC events) it really pissed me off that nobody from NYC tried to
make it.  The event was specifically planned to be easy to get to from
NYC.  All you had to do was get on the PATH and when you get to Hoboken
get off the train.  The place is (as we advertised) directly across the
street from the entrance.  You couldn't miss it.

Well, to hell with Manhattan.  From now on I'm going to push for
un-NYC-inclusive socials.  It was silly for me to get the group to try
in the first place.

Tom
P.S.  The next social is at the Scotchwood Diner in Scotch Plains on Rt
22E.  Thursday, Oct 29 at 7:30pm.  Reservations under the name "Arnold".

-- 
Tom Limoncelli -- tal@plts.uucp (home) -- tal@warren.mentorg.com (work)
                                                Read my lips:
B0 f+ t w c- d g k+++ s+++ m- e++ h r-- p       NO MORE GEORGE BUSH!
S7/2 b+ g l+ y z- n++ o++ x++ a-- u+ v+ j+ PIG8/5
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver)
Subject: Re: gay science fiction (and a moment of shamelessness...)
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 92 01:54:09 GMT

 kmj1@PL122e.cc.lehigh.edu (kate marie) writes:

[_Door into Sunset_]

>TWeaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver) writes:
>>
>> But is in the UK. Another person for a copy? Hey, I've only sent four so
>> far; I'm hardly undercutting the American distributors...
>> 
>> Tanaqui
 
>not to start another "me too me too" thread, but, me too...i've been 
>looking for them for _years_ over here...

Damn, we do need that UK-US conversion, don't we? Right, this is the fifth
request for a book, and there are probably more after this.

Who's got a catalogue for _Good Vibrations_ store to hand? In fact, I
believe I've seen two of them, though I was in bed at the time and thus
not wearing my glasses... reading in bed when you're longsighted is a right
pain: I need longer arms, or for the floor to be further away when I lean
over the edge of the bed and stare at the writing. And my attention was also 
terribly distracted by the gorgeous person sharing the bed. |-)

I feel a mass-order about to happen with the American credits I can probably
accumulate. Yippee. Now, Blackwell's are currently out of stock. I'm getting
four copies in c. 10 days from now... and can re-order again, obviously.

_Sunset_ (and presumably the others) cost 3.99. Postage is extra. Rather than
swamp this, my news-reading machine, with requests, my main email address is
t_weaver@hicom.lut.ac.uk

This is a strictly nonprofit deal, so I can probably get away with it on 
Internet. If not, kill me |-)

Tanaqui
From: rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: National Coming Out Day
Date: 13 Oct 1992 21:11:41 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <Bw1AG4.79G@ibmpcug.co.uk> gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal) writes:
->In article <Bw0ry8.9n2@news.udel.edu> jcarroll@bach.udel.edu (Royal J Carroll) writes:
->>You can get lots of hugs (from man people!)
->
->No you don't - I just tried it :-(
->
->Script started on Tue Oct 13 01:21:20 1992
->% man people!
->man: people! not found
->% 
->script done on Tue Oct 13 01:21:55 1992
->
->see - not a single hug.  Sniff.

Sure there's hugs ... 

*hug* *snuggle* *cuddle*

See? And all because you tried.

BTW, I think your problem might be that the shell was interpreting the '!'
rather than leaving it alone ... you probably needed to use '\!' ... when I
tried it, this is what happened:

--------
Script started on Tue Oct 13 14:07:59 1992
1 plague countdown 14:08: which people\!
//monsoon/usr/local/bin/people!
2 plague countdown 14:08: man people\!
PEOPLE!(1L)          Unix Programmer's Manual             PEOPLE!(1L)

NAME
     people! - Get a hug

SYNOPSIS
     people!

DESCRIPTION
     Gives you a hug when you need/want it.

DATE
     October 10, 1992

3 plague countdown 14:08: people\!
Hi Roy! *snuggle* *hug* *cuddle*
4 plague countdown 14:08: exit
exit

script done on Tue Oct 13 14:08:55 1992
----------

Those of you who actually do have an account on the Open Computing Facility
(We have 4700 users ... surely there's more than _two_ bisexuals in our user
base? Please?) are quite welcomed to try it for yourselves ...

I just installed it on our system.  Seems like a nice thing to do for those
who don't get enough hugs ...

(What? Frivolous use of super-user privileges? Me?)

-- 
Roy S. Rapoport          rsr@soda.berkeley.edu            bdsm@ocf.berkeley.edu
#include <stdio.h>
float kinsey(){int c=random()%601;return (c/100.0);}
main(){srandom(time(0));printf("And now I'm %.2f\n",kinsey());}
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: mlloyd@westmark.Stanford.EDU (Mike Lloyd)
Subject: Re: My first Triangle
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 04:51:34 GMT

rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport) writes:
: In article <ZEN.92Oct6233259@death.corp.sun.com> zen@death.corp.sun.com (d) writes:
: ->    If you meet a queer on the road, kill them.
: 
: *cough* *sputter* *choke* 
: OK ... call me clueless ...
: Err, huh? What was that?
: 
: -roy, the really befuddled.

*giggle*  Fair reaction, Roy, but don't sweat it, my friend.
Instead, get your hands on a copy of a book by Sheldon Kopp, called
"If you met the buddah on the road, kill him".  It's not where it
comes from, but it's a fascinating read all the same.  Basic thesis:
don't fool yourself.  Life is really what it appears to be: a
muddled, upsetting, confusing, depressing, joyous, inconsistent,
wonderful, affirming, spontaneous race with no apparent goal.
This is put across without the kind of glib self-help-manual
style I give it by such a characterisation.

The cover makes ref to Pirsig's "Zen and the art of motorcycle
maintenance" - this is required reading for all those who claim
enlightenment, whether they agree with everything in it or not.  You're
simply not taking the cause of Figuring It All Out seriously enough if
you don't read the books which tell you you're taking it all too
seriously, if you see what I'm getting at ...

Mike, pressed (by sleep) for time, who notes that most of the above
"you"s are generic.
-- 
Mike Lloyd, B0/1 h- f- t w- c g+ k+ s m- e? |"Bloody nose and burning eyes
      Retro-hippy, music nut, bi and        | Raised in laughter to the skies"
          backrubber of devotion            |     - Bruce Cockburn
 ....."I suffer from internalized homophonophobia"....."Their, they're".....
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: mlloyd@westmark.Stanford.EDU (Mike Lloyd)
Subject: Re: Why can't I have two shoulders?
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 19:30:47 GMT

heard@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au (George Heard (Laurie 8)) writes:
: G'day marvelous people...

And to you, marvellous person...  (sorry - still spelling like a Brit;
my reserach is all about modelling and colours too... :-)

: [tale of unsucessful commiseration deleted] 
:
: I left a good friend in need to try and help someone who probably 
: didn't deserve my caring ears and shoulder. I really feel I have let 
: someone down for no real good reason. I don't think either person read 
: this newsgroup, I don't really know why I'm wasting bandwith sometimes.
: I just wish that I had two shoulders...

Ok, no longer.  I've been holding onto this post for a while, getting on
with other things (including much easier but less significant-feeling
stuff here).  I haven't seen a response that says what I would want to
express, but then I don't think I can really express it either.  Let me
try:


       >>>>>HHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWLLLLLLLLLLL<<<<<<

There.  I feel better now.  Probably doesn't really get my intention
across, but cathartic all the same.  What can I tell you, George
(Laurie?  pref?)?  Caring sucks sometimes.  (Dead bunnies, through a
straw even.)  We only get a quota of shoulders each.  You did what you
could.  No-one can do more.  It'd be awful nice if the fact that we try
meant things got fixed, but it don't.  It means we tried.  There are
even times where it's not right to try - only some losing battles are
worth fighting.

Look at it as profit-and-loss.  You feel bad about the abortive meeting
with the person who's coming out, but I'm sure it meant something - made
some difference.  Even if sie didn't enjoy it, it's still another step
for hir, acknowledging by action those feelings, and doing it before
someone else - you, not just your electronic presence.  So call this a
small profit.  You have some impression your time could have been better
spent, in pursuit of a larger profit, with your distraught friend.  OK,
but *how*where*you*to*know*that*?  "All you can do is do what you must".
Giving yourself a hard time becaue you feel you only made the smaller
contribution is like flogging yourself because you're not Mother
Theresa - dumb.

Don't get me wrong - none of the harsh tone here is directed at you
personally.  I'm just blowing off steam.  The world is like that - full
of these kinds of disappointments.  Herbert was wrong - >REGRET< is the
mind-killer, not fear.  You did a positive thing, a good thing.  Be
thankful for that.

With the highest of regard
Mike, who claims the moisture in his eyes is from a long-standing health
problem, not this focussing of emotional fatigue.
-- 
Mike Lloyd, B0/1 h- f- t w- c g+ k+ s m- e? |"Bloody nose and burning eyes
      Retro-hippy, music nut, bi and        | Raised in laughter to the skies"
          backrubber of devotion            |     - Bruce Cockburn
 ....."I suffer from internalized homophonophobia"....."Their, they're".....
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: iw@tosser.Rational.COM (The_Devine_Dolly)
Subject: Re: My first Triangle
Organization: Rational
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:35:04 GMT

cjmchale@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale) writes:

>Wha?... You mean that posters of Elf and ststuettes of Iseult are on
>sale!?  Why wasn't I informed? Where can I buy them? Do they take credit
>cards?

I certainly do - just send your credit cards my way.

>I can just imagine the advertising slogan:

>	The Iseult Statuette---lovingly handcrafted out of a
>	queen-sized, latex didlo. Crutch optional.

Mmmm  hows about a leather dildo.  I always think latex dildos are in the
wobble stage ( based on my theory of the male erection having four stages:
squidge, weeble, wobble and the big fella).

BTW you were spared a visit from the crutch-weilding daemon herself, due
to the advent of new NHS cructches.  I did make it to Trinity one
day en route to O`Neills but it was after 4.45 and they wouldn't let me
in to the ORI.  Maybe Christmas time!

Iseult.
From: fenthe@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: BiCon details ?
Date: 15 Oct 92 07:49:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: drycas.1992Oct15.124918.2267
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

In article <1992Oct14.153053.2255@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu>, porsupah@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
>  **hugs** to the newly emerged demuffining types, too. And one more for
> Fenthe, who's much too cuddly for his own good, despite what he may protest
> occasionally.

 <sigh> Oh, but if only that were true.. Much too /skinny/ for my own good, yes
-- unfortunately, though, this means I'm all bones and sticking-out-type bits. 
At least, I'd assume this is why I don't seem to be being even remotely cuddly
of late, going on recent experience.. <sigh>

 (6'1", 9st -> 126lbs -> 57kg. Pfeh.)
 
-- 
Daniel Mitchell = Fenthe Marten = fenthe@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu =
m91djm@ecs.ox.ac.uk = dmitchell@cix.compulink.co.uk = bi furry juggler
Snailmail: 18, High St // Earls Colne // Essex CO6 2PA // ENGLAND
Newsgroups: soc.bi