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From: markt@cup.hp.com (Mark Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
Subject: Re: Glass Audio Projects
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:31:01 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
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Many of the glass audio projects are very worth while.  I have built
a couple of the preamp type projects, curcio preamp and headamp and 
both worked out ok.  Many of the projects are not "kit" easy.  Most
require a good voltmeter and some require a scope to really set the
final product up.  I think that most of the amp projects fall into
the second catagory.  
My opinion on using transformers from cheap integrated amps is that
it is risky at best.  You could spend much time working on an amp
just to find that it doesn't stack up.  I would rather spend my time
trying to make an amp form more valuable transformers knowing that
atleast good results can be had, if not exellent results.   If one
must build am amp from such lesser know transformers i think one would
be best off  using a good name at least, say Fisher.  For example fisher
made quite a few amps that are less well known, such as the sa300, although
people have discovered the assets of its iron.
It turns out to be quite a bit of work to build an amp and it would
sad to find out that it was all for less than good level of  sound.

my 2cents
Mark
From: mblisd!isdserv1!chrism@sunaus.Aus.Sun.COM
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
Subject: Hughes AK-100
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 14:28:47 EST
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Hi,
   I am wondering if anyone has experience with or knowledge of the
 Hughes AK-100 Sound Retrieval System Decoder. I have read the review 
 in Audio (April 92) but am unable to audition it as it isn't generally
 available in Australia (?). I am particularly interested in its ability
 to help you improve(?) systems where the speakers cannot be placed far
 enough apart because of room constraints, but any comments would be 
 appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

---------------------------------------------------
 Chris Mouzouris
 GPO Box 5215
 Sydney NSW
 Australia 2001
 Ph. 61-2-9550685 (A/Hrs)
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From: malte@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Malte Uhl)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
Subject: Re: twin triode crosstalk question
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 13:52:14 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Technische Fakultaet.
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If I remember it correctly ( maybe someone with a tube manual can verify this )
most, if not all, twin tubes are also available in single tube version.
For example, the 12AX7 has a european equivalent named ECC 81. The single tube
version is called EC 92.
Sorry that I can't give more detail, I don't know much about the US tube
numbering system.

Probably not exactly the point, but ..

Malte

[The triode in the 12AX7 is patterned after the one in the 6AV6. The EC92 
is the 6AB4 which is not exactly the same. -tjk]
From: chcho@vnet.ibm.com ( Chul-hee Cho )
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
Subject: Conversion of optical digital output to coaxial
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 18:44:04 KST
Organization: IBM Korea
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I have a CD player which has only optical digital outlet and a DAT
player which has only coaxial digital input.
I like to find out whether there's device which converts optical
signal into coaxial format to feed into the DAT player.

Chul-hee Cho
IBM Korea                                      Voice : 82-2-781-6315
chcho@sulvm1.vnet.ibm.com                        Fax : 82-2-785-5948
From: njenrigh@mtu.edu (Nick Enright)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
Subject: tube manual
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 05:59:26 GMT
Organization: Michigan Technological University
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As to the title.

Where can i get my hands on one.  most particulary i need info and pinout data on the 6j7 6c5 6l6 5u4gb tubes but woould also like to try my hand at 
building tube amps.

thanx in advance.

<<njenrigh@mtu.edu>>
From: Marc Tamsky <tamsky%finette.UUCP@UCSD.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
Subject: Info needed refurbishing tube amp (HK Citation II)
Date: 23 Dec 1992 07:39:09 GMT
Organization: Banzai Institute for Strageic Information & Biomedical Engineering
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(Please reply via mail to me, I'll post a summary if there is interest.)
(I don't have reliable access to newsgroups.)

I am currently in the process of repairing/refurbishing a quite old
Harmon Kardon Citation II tube amp.
This uses 4 x KT88/6550, and 6 x 12BY7A tubes, and some BIG xformers!

Question 1:
I'm looking for a good book that deals with tube-amp design and
theory, preferably with a lot of examples.

I'm thinking that if, once I'm finished, the amp doesn't sound as good
as I want, I could rip out the circuit that is in it and wire in a
pure-class-A circuit.  (Or should I make it Class-A now, and not bother
fixing it first?)

Question 2:
I have been trying to find a phone number or address for a magazine
recommended to me: "Audio Amateur"  Does anyone have an address or #
for this magazine?  Is this a good source for information on homebrew
tube amp design?

Question 3:
I have heard a very broad spectrum of opinions on which output tube
is best, the KT-88 or the 6550.  Is there some kind of consensus among
those in the know about tubes?  (I was even told that KT-88's are known
to EXPLODE a lot.)

Thanks.
----------
tamsky@finette.UUCP    	  KB6JWE		 Marc Tamsky

In New Salem, ND stands the worlds largest Holstein Cow.
12000#, 38' H, 50' L.....	it's fiberglass!
From: news@cbnewsi.att.com
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
Subject: What is a good (low) price for Vandersteen's 2ce ?
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 03:34:58 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
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I am about to buy a pair of Vandersteen 2Ce speakers.
The dealer quoted me $1295 over the phone but
says he'll "make me a price"...
How low can I expect him to be willing to go ?

Thanks.
Reinaldo
From: peterca@ento.csiro.au
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
Subject: Re valve gian stage (Re CD tweaks)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 11:38:19 EST
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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I realised that when I hurredly drew up the circuits recently posted my
memory did not work very well.  The supply volts for the Cohen amp I
modified for CD use measures 427V and the supply for the Guls amp is 310V
for the 12AX7 and 12AT7 versions and 350V for the 12AU7 version (with 1K5
cathode resistors).  Worse still I had the output from the lower plate not
the upper cathode (correct).  Below are the corrected versions:

                +427V
                 |
               plate 
         ______grid 
        |     cathode
        |        |____________||___________ out
        |      2Kohm     |     ?   |
        |________|       |         |
                 |       |         |
               plate     |         |
in__||_________grid     10Mohm    2M2ohm
   |1uF       cathode    |         |
   |             |       |         |
   |_____________|_______|_________|___signal earth

Above is the Cohen amp; below is the Guls amp from Elector March/April
1987. 

                +310V
                 |
               plate 
         ______grid 
        |     cathode
        |        |________||_______________ out to RIAA or input
selector/vol
        |      1Kohm              |               (12AX7)    (12AT7)
        |________|                |
                 |                |
               plate              |
in_____________grid            (1Mohm)
   |          cathode             |
   |          ___|__ ____         |
 (47Kohm      |     |    |        |
 +30pF)       =     =   1Kohm     |
   |__________|_____|____|________|___earth
            470uF 0.47uF


Sorry about the errors.  If anyone wants to make one of these there are
other considerations like a floating heater supply so that the max heater
to cathode voltage is not exceeded for either triode.  The cohen amp uses
cascaded RC filters for the supply whereas the Guls amp has an IC regulator
(but valve rectification) followed by RCs.  The Guls amp also has a slow
heater turn on over 30secs after which the high voltage comes on and after
the amp has settled an output relay is closed (at 1 min)

----------------------------------------
Peter Campbell
C/O Div. Entomology, C.S.I.R.O.
Box 1700 Canberra A.C.T. 2601
Australia  (peterca@ento.csiro.au)
Ph.61-6-2464158 (w), 61-6-2516213 (h),
61-6-2464173 (fax)
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From: tfreeman@netcom.com (Thomas Freeman)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
Subject: FOR SALE: Celestion SL-12-Si Loudspeakers, $750/pair with stands
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 03:59:44 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)
  (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for <rec-audio-high-end@ames.arc.nasa.gov>); Mon, 28 Dec 1992 20:01:22 -0800
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For sale:
  Celestion SL-12-Si Loudspeakers, with Chicago brand speaker stands.
  $750/pair with the stands.
  These speakers are 4 years old and in very good condition.
  Their response is quite flat - and they have expectional imaging
  when placed correctly (they need to be about 18-24 in. in front of
  a wall, a few feet from the corner of the room, and 8-10 feet apart).
  I would not recommend them for bookshelf use.

  I would prefer NOT to mail them.  

Please e-mail to: tfreeman@netcom.com or call (408)-734-5769
From: mm@whamg.att.com (Martin H Meyers)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
Subject: portable CD recommendations/air travel
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 14:10:01 EST
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I travel alot on planes and use a walkman pro with Sony headphones for
relaxation.  The headphones are the top end (MDR-CD999) Sony units with the
prime virtue of acoustic isolation.  Unlike the cheap, walkman type units that
pose as headphones, these offer isolation around the entire ear, kind of like
the old KOSS PRO-4AA.  It doesn't eliminate totally the jet noise but reduces
it enough so that music can be enjoyed without blowing out your eardrums to
get above jet plane ambient noise levels.

Anyway, the next phase is to get a portable CD unit.  What are the better
sounding portable CD units out there?  Note that I am NOT looking for something
equivalent to what I would use in my home system!!!!  While it need not be
of Theta/Levinson quality, it should be listenable under the unique conditions
of airplane travel.  I plan to take my 999s into a few stores and audition
various units in the next couple of weeks but would appreciate any recommendations 
from the group.  Please respond with PERSONAL recommendations and not just,
"I read somewhere....".   I'd like to hear what YOU HEARD.  In addition to
audio quality, I am interested in resistance to vibration (i.e. does the 
laser jump?).
I will post the results for those interested.

Thanks in advance folks and happy holidays!!


Marty



TRUST YOUR EARS!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: fingersh@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (FINGERSH  LEE JAY   )
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
Subject: Yamaha Amps
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 06:07:01 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
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I've been looking for a mid-priced amp lately ($300 to $600).  I've looked
at the NAD 2100 and 2400, the Yamaha MX-460 and MX-630 and the Adcom 545 and
555.  I was most impressed with the Yamaha MX-460.  It soundly whipped the
others in virtually every way except, perhaps, for raw power in the low end.
This surprised me.  I have heard many of you speak highly about the Adcoms.
Have any of you listened to the Yamaha's and, if so, what did you think?  Are
there any other two-channel power-amps with level controls in this price range
that you think I should investigate?

Lee Jay Fingersh
fingersh@ucsu.colorado.edu
From: phamtom@seas.gwu.edu (Dzung L. Pham)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
Subject: Re: Where can I buy Audio Quality Electronic Parts (pots, caps, etc.)?
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 23:09:17 GMT
Organization: George Washington University
  (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for uunet!rec-audio-high-end); Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:09:25 -0500
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Keywords: ALPS Pots, Capacitors, etc.
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A source for ALPS pots is Old Colony Sound Lab in New Hampshire:
	Old Colony Sound Lab
	PO Box 243
	Peterborough, NG 03458-0243
	(603)924-6371
They've recently put out a catalog of their products which includes kits,
connectors, and some ICs.  (Note that ALPS has different pot models - I
think even Radio Shacks sell a low-end model)

For electronic components (resistors, capacitors) try Newark Electronics
who has distributors all over the country - check your yellow pages.

Another source for audiophile quality parts is:
	Welborne Labs
	6836 S. University Blvd #70
	Littleton, CO  80122
	(303) 470-6585

and Michael Percy, whose address I don't have on hand right now.


   -- Dzung Luu Pham

   The Applied Physics Laboratory  or  The George Washington University 
   (dzung_pham@jhuapl.edu>	       (phamtom@seas.gwu.edu)	

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From: gmc@linear (Maxy Z. Toplik)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
Subject: Re: Amplifier Slew rate
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:37:33 GMT
Organization: Analog
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     bellcore!gizmo.bellcore.com!mo@uunet.UU.NET (Michael O'Dell) writes:

 >When speaking about slew-rate, it is important to
 >consider that the units usually listed is Volts/microsecond.
 >
 >The problem is that speakers are current-mode devices.
 >WAIT - you say, Ohm's Law says we can translate between
 >the two, and that a large VOLTAGE slew rate will obviously
 >imply a large CURRENT slew rate.  That would be true for
 >a constant, pure Ohmic load (signal into a perfect resistor),
 >but speakers are pretty-far removed from a pure Ohmic load.
 >In fact, most of them are reactive as hell - especially
 >various planar driver types, but good ol' EM cones can be
 >pretty weird as well.
 >
 >One must actually be concerned with the AC Current
 >transfer function if you want to really understand what your
 >amplifier is managing to assert into your speaker's drivers.
 >

     A speaker is inherently neither current mode nor voltage mode.
It is a passive impedance whose voltage and current do, in fact,
obey Ohm's Law. The fact that the speaker impedance is mostly reactive
rather than resistive in no way changes the linear relationship
of current and voltage. The speaker could care less if the driving source
is a current source or a voltage source. The voltage-current relationship
of the speaker follows Ohm's Law regardless.

     Getting back to slew rate, slew rate is the maximum rate of change
of voltage per unit time at contolling nodes in the amplifier. It is
caused by parasitic capacitances that must be charged to allow the
node to move, and is given by  dV/dt=I/C where dV/dt is slew rate
and has the units voltage divided by time. The current in the speaker
exactly tracks the amplifier voltage output by the linear relationship
stated in Ohm's Law. There is no such thing as a
"CURRENT slew rate"in this context, although technically speaking
an analogous effect for current mode and parasitic inductances does
exist if the driving amp is current mode. However, all consumer
audio amps are voltage amps that drive the speaker as a modulated
voltage source, and the term "slew rate" refers to dV/dt.

 >Who knows? This might even explain some part of the observable
 >voodoo-cable effects.
 >

     More like the doo-doo effect since the so-called differences
are generally only observable when the listener knows beforehand
which cable is which. Same listeners have even heard differences
on A/A comparisons when they were listening to the same cable but
were told it had been changed.
From: chcho@vnet.ibm.com ( Chul-hee Cho )
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
Subject: My first system
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 18:16:24 KST
Organization: IBM Korea
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I like to thank all who have kindly answered my questions.
I finally purchased Rogers Studio 1a, Musical Fidelity A1 amp. CDP is
Philips 850 mkII.  Interconnects and cables are Monster Interlink 850,
M1 and Powerline.

Chul-hee Cho
From: awelker@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca (Andrew Welker)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
Subject: Digital Cable
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:04:26 GMT
Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine
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I purchased a Museatex Melior D/A on the weekend at 40% off list
price. I am now wondering if a special digital cable needs to be
used. One person said that the cable had to be 75 ohms like video
cables. Is this true? Please send suggestions ASAP since I am
going to look this evening. Thanks!

Andrew Welker
From: rodulfo@angelo.amd.com (Pedrito Rodulfo)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Bose AM5-II Vs. SE5-I(orII)
Summary: Performance difference between Bose AM-5 vs. SE-5
Keywords: Bose
Date: 23 Dec 92 05:46:35 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.

I am wondering why there is a big price difference between the AM5-II (on sale
at $649) and the SE-5 (I am not sure if it is I or II but current sale price
is $499.) They are physically different, but how do they compare when it
comes to performance?? And how come I don't see SE-5's in most stores? Please
respond either by post or e-mail. I have a few friends who have a decision to
make.

Thanks in advance.
From: jeh@cmkrnl.com
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Clipping questions
Date: 1 Jan 93 01:45:54 GMT
Organization: Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego, CA

In article <1992Dec31.210309.4505@panix.com>, moskowit@panix.com (Len Moskowitz) writes:
> Norman P. Tracy writes:
>>The Polks, being real hi-fi speakers ...
> 
> No doubt this is due to <ahem> the "genius of Matthew Polk!"
> 
> -- 
> Len Moskowitz
> moskowit@panix.com

Really.  For example, if that "Stereo Dimensional Array" idea was all that
wonderful, how come Polk has dropped it in their current product line?

	--- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego CA
Internet:  jeh@cmkrnl.com, hanrahan@eisner.decus.org, or jeh@crash.cts.com
Uucp:  ...{crash,eisner,uunet}!cmkrnl!jeh
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: gre253@mis.csiro.au (Steven Green (+61 6 276 6813))
Subject: Re: ARE 100-110 MINUTE TAPES BAD?
Organization: CSIRO ITS
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 07:13:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.001558.7861@iitmax.iit.edu> tranhun1@elof.iit.edu (Hung Q. Tran) writes:
>
>I always see the 100-110 minute tapes usually cheaper than the 90 
>minute tapes.   Are they necessarily delicate?  What difference
>is there between the quality of a 90 min tape and a 100 min tape.
>
>thanks
>
>tran
>

I've been using TDK MA-110's for a little while now. My impressions to date
have been _very_ good. They reproduce brilliantly and seem fairly robust.
I've used quite a few in my car and the handly the wear-and-tear of that
environment without any problems.

Are the tapes you are referring to metal?

-- 
* Steve Green     *  "Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit outa my hat!"    *
* Comms Group     *  "That trick never works"                            *
* ITS Branch      *  "Nothin' up my sleeve - PRESTO"                     *
* CSIRO Australia *  "No doubt about it - I gotta get another hat"       *
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Tuesday, 22 Dec 1992 15:18:39 PST
From: Youngjoon Kwon     (415)926-2761 <YKWON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Summary : Amps for Vandersteen 2Ce
Distribution: rec


In article <540@bit.UUCP>, grego@bit.UUCP (Greg Sanguinetti) says:
>
>
>I also recommend the ST-140. Best bang for buck and a great match for
>the 2Ce. I have Adcoms for my Maggies and that is a good match but I
>would not recommend the Adcoms for the Vandersteens. The low end works
>but the high end does not.
>

In "Audible Difference", a high-end shop in Palo Alto,
I used to have a good impression on the sytem they set up which consists
of ADCOM 535 amp (60w/ch) and 575 CD player driving Vandersteen 1B.
I though it sounding pretty good...
The only quibble I have was a little muddiness, and a slight sign of
congestion in a complex passage of classical orchestral music.
Anyways, I thought since the experts in the knowledgeable hifi shop
presented such a set-up, it could be a pretty good match.

Well... is it time for me to audition B&K driving Vandy's?

As a potential buyer of ADCOM's, B&K's, or Acurus's and possibly Vandy's,
I would be very interested what other pepole think, although the
final decision should be on my listening.

Thank you.

-Youngjoon
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: strong@tc.fluke.COM (Norm Strong)
Subject: Re: Why do people buy speakers that cost >$1000/pair ?
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:51:45 GMT

In article <1gt2mkINNdtq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> co940@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Nicholas E. Damato) writes:
}
}in article 46047 Alex asks: Why pay more than $1000 for a pair
}of speakers when you can build them yourself for less.
} 
}to which i reply: Build me a speaker with a bass response of +-
}2db down to 20 Hz for under a thousand dollars and I'll make you
}a millionaire.

No problemo.  I already have one (pair) and the price was only $68.  
Further, it only takes 1mW to drive it to earsplitting levels. 
Of course it only works in a very small room--about 2 cu cm.  

-- 

Norm Strong  (strong@tc.fluke.com)
2528 31st S.   Seattle WA 98144   USA
From: chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Question about rear speakers for surround sound
Date: 23 Dec 92 00:59:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <72135@cup.portal.com> gb@cup.portal.com (Greg A Buechler) writes:

>I have been told that the rear channel is sent only the mid and high
>frequencies.  Given that, I would assume a subwoofer to these speakers
>would be useless. Advise?

The surround speaker channel has a bandwith of 100-7kHz.  You need not
use a sub in that position.

A sub on the sub output of the decoder is a really great addition!

-- 
Chris Christensen                  The opinions I express are my own,
chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com            and sometimes they are wrong!
916-478-3419 FAX 916-478-3887      After all, I *AM* only human.
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: joe@avs.com (Joe Peterson)
Subject: Re: WHY a 60-minute MD?
Organization: Advanced Visual Systems Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 14:43:07 GMT

Adam J. Weitzman (weitzman@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu) wrote:

: So I'm getting all psyched for this MD thing, seeing as it's just like a
: recordable CD with slightly lesser sound quality, and I'm getting ready to
: put all my taped music on MD and whatnot. So I'm looking around for blank MDs
: which are supposed to be roughly 74 minutes in length. However, all the 
: blank MDs that are being sold are only 60 minutes long. This is not good if
: I want to tape some my long CDs for the car or whatever. I was already 
: unhappy that I couldn't get some of my >74-minute CDs onto one MD, but now
: I find out that the recording limit on a blank MD is only 60 minutes? What

I hear that the 74 minute MD's are not supposed to be available until
spring.  Until then, it's just 60 minute ones.

					Joe