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From: ag129@cus.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant)
Subject: Re:  UnixWare
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:03:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.172405.17149@amc.com> schansen@amc.com (Scott Hansen) writes:
>UnixWare is not just another Unix derivative, by Novell.  It *IS* USL's
>Destiny with Novell's IPX/SPX and related NetWare utilities bolted
>on...

So would it be sensible to buy precisely one UnixWare system and use it
as a gateway between the Unix world and the NetWare world?  Can it
translate NFS into NetWare on behalf of IP-only clients, etc.?  What
other gateway functions is it suitable for?
Xref: sparky comp.sys.novell:11077 swnet.lans.novell:10
From: bozze@shark.bad.se (Bo Arnoldson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,swnet.lans.novell
Subject: LOGIN replacement (error-handling) NOT .BAT-script
Keywords: NETWARE 3.11
Date: 4 Jan 93 16:02:35 GMT
Reply-To: BoA@bad.se
Followup-To: poster
Organization: B.A.D., Sweden

Hi Netters

I'm looking for a LOGIN replacement that can cope with wrong passwords
and so on.

Preferable features:
	Programmable logotype (full screen standard text mode)
	Box for entering Login name and password
	Nice errorhandling with helpful comments

All info (even commercial alternatives considered) appreciated.

Regards
 Bo Arnoldson, BoA@bad.se


-- 
Bo Arnoldson, BoA@bad.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: dewitt@eng.clemson.edu (Dewitt Latimer)
Subject: NW4MAC version 3.1 printing
Reply-To: dewitt@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:41:29 GMT


Hi everybody,

I have just upgraded by NW4MAC from 3.0.X to 3.1 but I do not have the documentation
yet.  In 100 words or less, how do I setup the ATPS.CFG file so a Macintosh can
print to a Netware queue?

thanks in advance...Dewitt

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Engineering Computer Operations			FAX	(803) 656-0859
113 Riggs Hall					Mail	dewitt.latimer@eng.clemson.edu
Clemson, SC  29634-0904
From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Charon 4.0/MCA 
Distribution: world
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 01:52:51 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <1993Jan4.131904.1253@yvax.byu.edu> universe@yvax.byu.edu writes:

   I am attempting to get Charon 4.0 running on a Novell Server, and
   have run into   a few problems. Has anyone successfully gotten
   Charon running on a Microchannel   machine with a SMC card? Would
   that someone help out a poor idiot that is getting ready to pull
   out the last two hairs that he has left? It appears to be   a
   problem with the packet drivers, but I'm only guessing. 

So why not ask me??  The worst that would happen is that I would send
you my support price list...

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com> What canst *thou* say?
Crynwr Software           Crynwr Software sells packet driver support.
11 Grant St.              315-268-1925 Voice  |  LPF member - ask me about
Potsdam, NY 13676         315-268-9201 FAX    |  the harm software patents do.
From: alanchem@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Alan Scott Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Novell Queues
Date: 7 Jan 1993 17:02:38 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: alanchem@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

I'm looking for advice as to how to access a printer server queue
via Borland Pascal 7.0.

Any help/advice/directions appreciated!

- Alan

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From: carlb@tamsun.tamu.edu (Carl A. Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Deleteing Directory Tables
Date: 4 Jan 1993 13:48:33 -0600
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamsun.tamu.edu

I've discovered that I have a lot of space locked up in empty
directory entries (like 50+Meg), and I'd really like to get that 
space back so that I can put files in that space.

Is there any way of removing those directory entries to free
up the space for files (I have a 3.11 server 486/EISA/SCSI)  
short of backing it up and re-formatting it, or will that even 
do it?

Thanks in advance.

-Carl

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The only thing that is impossible to do in Unix is to figure out 
how to do certain things.  -me (I think :)
From: villalj@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU (John Villalovos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Disk Performance-measuring NLM
Keywords: DISK PERFORMANCE NLM 3.11
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:25:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: flop.1ivnh6INNhqh
Organization: Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: xanth.cs.orst.edu

In article <52@smarine.UUCP> cch0930@smarine.UUCP (Chris Hapgood) writes:
>Guess what?  Novell has written one.  Check out the ads from some of 
>the disk sub-system vendors (like MicroNet's ad on page 27 of the Jan 93
>issue of NetWare Solutions).  Novell claims that such a tool would be of 
>no use to systems integrators and network administrators such as myself,
>sooooo, they won't release a copy to the net.
>
>Does anybody have a copy I could ftp or get via mail?  Howabout a similar 
>product?

Please post the answer to this.  I would be very interested in the program.
I know it used to be in the NLM development kit or one of the other 
development kits.  I would like to get a copy of the NLM or if someone out
there could write an NLM which does this.  Basically want an NLM which will
test the data throuput of a drive or volume (if you are spanning).

Later,
-- 
John Villalovos
Certified Netware Engineer
villalj@xanth.cs.orst.edu
(503) 753-7883
From: dll@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Don Loflin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: TCP/IP routing via the DL-2000 possible?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 14:21:26 -0600
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
NNTP-Posting-Host: emx.cc.utexas.edu

In article <1ier8lINNqv0@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ce591@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Allan Green) writes:
>
>Thanks to Chris Ranch for his comments regarding IP routing
>via the DL-2000 card, disappointing though they were!
>
>Given that I need a MAC-IP router, what are my options?  Does
>anyone out there use a Localtalk network with an IP router?
>Naiively, I might imagine that the following are possibilities:
>
>1) a box which plugs into the ethernet and localtalk networks
>   and does the business...
>
>2) a macintosh which has an ethernet card and special IP software
>   to do the routing... (would this Mac be dedicated to this task
>   or could it be used for other things too?)

As others mentioned, you need a Mac-IP router.  While I don't know of
any Mac software to do IP routing, there is a PC solution.  If you only 
have a few Macs and no money to spend on a FastPath-4 (they are pretty 
cheap, I hear, and it's a better solution), you can run KA9Q-NOS on
a PC with an ethernet card and a localtalk card.  You need the version
of NOS modified to work with the localtalk packet driver (it's on ucsd.edu), 
and the Farallon PhoneNet PC software.  It works -- I've tried it.  Send 
me email if you want more details.  If you have more than a dozen or so 
Macs though, you will be better off using a FastPath.

-------
Don Loflin
loflin@emx.cc.utexas.edu
(512) 471-3241 x413
Just my opinions...

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From: paulb@techbook.com (Paul Buder)
Subject: Small Novell bug when deleting directories.
Organization: TECHbooks --- Public Access UNIX --- (503) 220-0636
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:26:42 GMT

Let's say I map I: to a writeable part of the disk, my home directory.
Then when I type these commands at the dos prompt my I: mapping gets
wiped out.

MAP ROOT I:=F:\HOME\PAULB
I:
MD TEST
CD TEST
RD \TEST

When I tried this on the C: drive dos says something about an attempt
to remove the current directory.  Anyway, I thought I'd post this
tidbit since the above was happening within an application and the
results were very confusing.

-- 
paulb@techbook.COM  Not affiliated with TECHbooks  Paul Buder
Public Access UNIX at (503) 220-0636 (1200/2400, N81)
From: dseeman@novell.com (Daniel Seeman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: VREPAIR, errors.. clues?
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:48:57 GMT
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia

In article <1993Jan3.085306.8153@novell.com> donp@novell.com (don provan) writes:
>In article <1992Dec28.175239.5756@novell.com> dseeman@novell.com (Daniel Seeman) writes:
>>Don P., do you understand why this is ("...be sure to run VREPAIR
>>until you find zero errors, then run it once more to verify there were
>>no errors left...")?
>
>I don't have any specific knowledge about why this is necessary with
>NetWare and VRepair, but from past experience with similar facilities
>in various operating systems, there are typically two causes for
>damage repair to require multiple passes.  One is that some damage is
>masked by other damage.  The first pass fixing the obscuring damage
>reveals hidden damage.  The other is that some damage repair can
>move damage from one class to another.  For example, deleting a bad
>directory entry in one pass might mean that disk blocks hanging from
>that directory entry would show up as "lost" blocks in a subsequent
>pass.  (Shows what i know about VRepair: i had to fall back on an
>example from TOPS-10 because i don't know enough about what kinds of
>damage VRepair fixes nor what it calls them.)
>
>Hope this helps.  Someone that has more experience with VRepair might
>want to compare my theory with what VRepair actually does to see if
>what i've said is relevant.
>						don provan
>						donp@novell.com

Thanks for the reply Don...It makes sense to me, but as you say, it would be 
nice if a VREPAIR familiar person would add some insights as well...

Think Peace...

Dan Seeman
Novell
Walnut Creek, Ca.
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:26:44 EST
From: Aengus Lawlor <RBYAML@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: econfig question
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Dec29.223146.27015@keinstr.uucp>, brinich@keinstr.UUCP (Mark
Brinich) says:
>I'm trying to run DEC's co-existance software on my Novell 3.11 LAN.  I've
>e-configed my ipx.com file, but I still can't get to a file server.  The file
>server does have the Ethernet_II loaded, so I think it's ok.  Any suggestions
>out there?(e-mail is fine)..........thanks...............mcb
>
Are the other Novell workstations using Ethernet_II or Novell's 'raw' 802.3
frames? If the other workstations are using 'raw' 802.3, set your CoExistence
version of IPX.COM back to that with ECONFIG. (I can't remember the syntax
off hand).

If that works, then your server probably isn't using Ethernet_II properly.

If that works, then there may be some other problem. Try setting up a
bare system that just loads the NDIS drivers:
CONFIG.SYS
    DEVICE=C:\DECNET\PROTMAN.SYS /I:C:\DECNET
    DEVICE=C:\DECNET\???????.DOS      (NDIS driver for ethernet card)
    nothing else, except files, buffers and shell, as necesary)

AUTOEXEC.BAT
    C:\DECNET\IPXNDIS.COM       (or just IPX.COM)
    C:\DECNET\NETBIND
    NETX

If this doesn't work, and there are no other error messages, and PathWorks
did work, then install straight Novell drivers on this PC, and see if it can
work that way. I would be inclined to point the finger at a bad NDIS driver
for your Ethernet board at this point.

>Mark Brinich
>voice mail(or maybe the real live thing)216 498-2821
>e-mail   uunet!keinstr!brinich
>Keithley Instruments  28775 Aurora Rd. Cleveland, Ohio 44139-1891

Aengus
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From: larsen@OES.ORST.EDU (Scott Larsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Charon 4.0/MCA
Date: 4 Jan 1993 21:21:00 GMT
Organization: Oregon Extension Service, Oregon State University, Corvallis, Or.
NNTP-Posting-Host: oes.orst.edu

In article <1993Jan4.131904.1253@yvax.byu.edu> universe@yvax.byu.edu writes:

> I am attempting to get Charon 4.0 running on a Novell Server, and have run 
> into a few problems. Has anyone successfully gotten Charon running on a 
> Microchannel machine with a SMC card? Would that someone help out a poor 
> idiot that is getting ready to pull out the last two hairs that he has left?
> It appears to be a problem with the packet drivers, but I'm only guessing. 
>
>Thankx,
>
>Daryl Gibson
>universe@byu.edu

I'm seeing the same problem on a Charon system that I am moving from a 
laptop with an external ethernet card to a PS/2 model 70/386 with a HP
ethertwist (UTP) card.  I get a "Network Initialization Failed" when I run 
"ycharon".  I'm using the same configuration files as on the laptop, having 
changed the IP address of the PS/2 to the original address of the laptop and 
changing the laptop to something else.

Everything works fine, i.e., I can log into the Novell system and our
TCP/IP hosts, but charon will not run.

We are using FTP software's PC/TCP package, and have the latest IPX/NETX
shells.


Scott Larsen
larsen@oes.orst.edu                      UUCP: hplabs!hp-pcd!orstcs!larsen
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From: jcenter@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (John Center)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Mac Login Security
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:27:27 GMT
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Hi,

I responded to both Dan and John privately, but I forgot to follow up to the
list. Here's what I am concerned about: 

As I understand it, if one does not use the netware encryption method, the 
default at login is to transmit password info as cleartext, not apple's
password encryption.  I consider this a significant security breach.  I'm
aware that there is a problem with how apple supports other encryption methods
in the Chooser.  What I would like to see is either a Login init/cdev from 
Novell that bypasses the Chooser to login directly using the netware encryption
method, or a change in the NW4Mac NLM to default to Apple's encryption.

I would also like to see more support for Mac clients in Netware.  It would
be a great help to have a scripting facility in Netware.  I'm aware of the
MacLogin Script program, but it would be nice to have a more integrated
product from Novell that doesn't rely on commands embedded in comments.  It
would allow us network supervisors to tailor an environment for mac clients
as we can for DOS/Windows, etc.  I would like to see a MAP command for the mac
that would contain the functionality of MAP ROOT and the shareware SetPaths
init.  A method to set up a Default Folder for a client logging in, using a
SET_HOME object in the bindery.  Right now I'm in the process of changing my
mac lab configuration, so I have a lot of ideas percolating. :-)

I hope out of the alliance between Apple and Novell, we will see some change
in this direction soon.

	-John

John Center / Supervisor / Journalism Department / Temple University
Daniel Seeman (dseeman@novell.com) wrote:
: Hi,

: Pardon my ignorance, but I am not completely sure what you mean by "automatic 
: use of encryption."  Do you mean the dialogue box asking for the encryption
: method is too cumbersome?  Or do you mean issuing the LOAD AFP ENCRYPT is too
: difficult?  Please respond to this post.  It sounds like you have some fairly
: specific requests (in addition to the write-access functionality), but I am
: not sure what they are.

: Let me know...

: Think Peace...

: Dan Seeman
: Novell
: Walnut Creek, Ca.
From: shawn@ucrmath.ucr.edu (shawn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Study time *really* required for CNE
Date: 5 Jan 93 04:47:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, Riverside

My company wants me to become a CNE ASAP.  They are planning to send
me to one of the "Fast Track" courses in which you receive the study
materials and then take a five-day lab course.  Can I get some
feedback as to how much study time you think it will take to get
ready for the tests?  I've done some Netware adminstration but am
not an expert.  I'm not sure what I'm up against.

Is this something that takes many, many hours of study?  Can someone
equate it to university-level courses?  Now, I know it depends on
what I already know and how much effort I put out but give me some
idea if you can.

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From: aze@first.gmd.de (Andre' Zehl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Where  should COMSPEC point ?
Keywords: COMSPEC
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:08:42 GMT
Distribution: comp

Where does the COMSPEC variable ideally point to? Until recently, I
generally mapped the my USR volume  to g: (in the system defaylt login file)
and set the COMSPEC to g:\dos . But I ran into problems when I
configured a machine with local harddisk, where I wanted to have
COMSPEC set to g:\dos, too. But I repeatedly ran into messages
like "command.com could not be loaded. System halted".
I now set COMSPEC to c:\dos in autoexec.bat after login, but
this is only a bad hack, because once a new user logs in, his
COMSPEC is set to g:\dos again :-( (bcause of the system login script.

So should I set COMSPEC and the dos directoy to ? 
Thanks in advance!
--
Andre'_________________________________________________________________________
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From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: packet driver for Zenith Z-Note 325L 
Distribution: world
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 04:08:16 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <1993Jan8.205031.15304@trentu.ca> ccksb@trentu.ca writes:

   OK...so a prof here has a new Zenith Z-Note 325L.  He got this because
   it had an ethernet adaptor (among onther reasons).  Now we find that
   we know nothing about the adaptor other than the odi drivers supplied
   work.  But we wish to use a packet driver to be able to run tcp/ip 
   applications like Trimpet News and Kermit - both rarp-served.

I'm working on it.  Current version is broken.  Am off to NetWorld
next week so no improvements until I get back.  BTW, I'll be wearing
my square soft velvet "Flying Karamatzov Brothers"/"British PhD" hat,
so say hi if you see me.

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com> What canst *thou* say?
Crynwr Software           Crynwr Software sells packet driver support.
11 Grant St.              315-268-1925 Voice  |  LPF member - ask me about
Potsdam, NY 13676         315-268-9201 FAX    |  the harm software patents do.
From: jph@cc.ruu.nl (Peter Hasperhoven)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Home work test
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:53:48 GMT
Organization: Rijksuniversiteit Utrecht

In article <1993Jan7.144829.17112@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> dje@mail.
bellcore.com (Don Eilenberger) writes:>From: dje@mail.bellcore.com (Don 
Eilenberger)>Subject: Re: Home work test
>Date: 7 Jan 93 14:48:29 GMT
>In article <1993Jan6.100233.62490@cc.usu.edu>, slwjf@cc.usu.edu writes:
>|> Hi! 
>|> Sorry this is a homework assignment by DR. Doupnik. 
>|> I am really regretful for the bothering.
>|> I will leave now!
>
>Could we please have DR. Doupnik's (is that pronounced
>Dope-nik?) email address?
>
>I think's he needs a little mail!
>
Don't bother, he gets loads of mail and he really loves it!
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From: hgpeach@ms.uky.edu (Harold Peach)
Subject: NetWare 386 via AT&T StarLAN 10 cards - Anyone doing it?
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:46:21 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

We have an existing AT&T StarLAN network (Version 3.2).  It differs from
traditional StarLAN in that it is wired as per 10BaseT standards.  We
want to do away with the StarGroup software and switch to NetWare 386,
but have had some problems getting the Novell client software to work
with our existing AT&T Ethernet cards.  The cards are AT&T StarLAN 10
Net PC NAUs.  Anyone else had success doing this?  We can load the packet
driver (AT&T.COM) and IPX, but when NETx loads it can't find the file
server.

Harold
hpeach@ca.uky.edu
-- 
Harold G. Peach, Jr.       ><>       N4FLZ       _%       hgpeach@s.ms.uky.edu
Organization: Bar-Ilan University Computing Center, Israel
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:41:32 IST
From: Doron Shikmoni <P85025@BARILVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: NDIS<-->ODI

This might be a FAQ:

What *exactly* is required to run NDIS and ODI alongside?

1. When ODI owns the NIC, I understand you need something called
   ODINSUP (or something). Where can this thing be had, and how
   do you use it?

2. Is there a way to do the opposite? I mean, let NDIS MAC drive the
   NIC, and let ODI be on top (as an NDIS protocol). Is there an NDIS
   protocol driver that presents an ODI driver interface upwards?

   (I understand some of (2) above can be achieved if I put DIS_PKT
   in the NDIS stack and then run IPXPD from BYU; but then I get only
   IPX, not real ODI - say, for Lan Workplace).

Thanks
Doron
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
From: laskos@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (alex laskos)
Subject: Problem with Btrieve DLL
Summary: frequent status 2 using Btrieve dll
Keywords: Btrieve, dll, status 2
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 06:48:26 GMT

I am having a problem using the Btrieve Dll for Windows.  The files
seem to be getting corrupted on a fairly regular basis - resulting
in a status 2 when the file is accessed.

We have been using Btrieve under Dos for a number of years and have never 
had this happen so often.  Obviously we have checked everything we
can think of.

We are using Borland C++ 3.1 to call the dll and are not able to
reproduce the problem by repeating anything - it appears to be a 
random problem but it is appearing fairly often.

HELP!!!!

I would really appreciate any suggestions on what could be the
problem - I'm getting desperate!  Even if you have seen this problem
and not been able to fix it please let me know.

Thanks,   Alex

(replies by email are fine to laskos@munagin.ee.mu.oz.au)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: edm@harpo.dev.uga.edu (Ed Maioriello)
Subject: UPS Recommendations
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:52:06 GMT

Hi,

I'm looking for recommendations and any price estimates for a UPS to
support, if possible, 2 servers, a Gatorbox and a Charon gateway.  Does
anyone have any suggestions.

Any and all help will be greatly appreciated.

Ed Maioriello		       		            edm @ harpo.dev.uga.edu
University Computing & Networking Services   	    edm @ aisun1.ai.uga.edu
University of Georgia  ----------------------------------------------------
Athens, Ga. 30602      | First Rule of Troubleshooting: 
(706)-542-6462         |                     If it don't work - plug it in! 

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