From: guido@island.COM (Guido Marx)
Subject: Re: Run conservatives, run away! (Was: Re: Homophobics can't...)
Organization: Island Graphics Corp.  San Rafael, Ca.
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:58:54 GMT

In article <athos-200892095115@athos.apple.com> athos@apple.com (Rick Eames) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.181954.2040@island.COM>, guido@island.COM (Guido
>Marx) wrote:
>
>Certain congressional leaders ADMITTED that they were NOT going to allow
>Bush any legislative victory since they smelled blood in the water.  On
>PBS, I watched as one senator (I can't remember his name) even admitted
>that even if George Bush put forth the Clinton play, they WOULD not pass it
>just to spite him.  It is, after all, an election year.

Okay, so what was Mr. Bush doing for the three previous years which
weren't presidential election years ?  It took him at least a year
to even admit that we were in a recession.  If you can't admit that
we have a problem, you can't do anything to fix it - can you ?

>> Yep, if you can't get the job done, be sure that you can blame someone
>> else.  George Bush is always sure to have someone to blame.  Remember,
>> Harry Truman said "The buck stops over there at Capital Hill !!!" or
>> something like that.
>
>So, Oh Great One, what would YOU do if the Congress would not pass your
>plan?  Attack with the Army?  There's not much you CAN do other than
>complain about it.  Or, if you're smart, you do what Wilson has done in
>California.  You hold them hostage, veto everything, and refuse to accept
>any compromise.  

Nope, great leaders manage to get people to do what they want them
to do.  I repeat, Ronald Reagan also had to deal with a hostile 
Congress and yet he was able to get most of his economic package
through the Congress.  Bush hasn't been able to - I submit that this
is an indication of his lack of leadership.  He made two promises a
cornerstone of his campaign in 1988 1) No tax increases and 2) a
Capital gains tax cut.  We all know what happened to both of these
"pledges".  He's now asking the voters to "trust me" again.  Why
should we ?  He must really think that we are stupid.

You and I clearly differ on what we think is smart.  IMHO, Pete Wilson
has destroyed any chances that he might have had to make a run at
the presidency.  He will be lucky to get re-elected governor.  The
political games being played in Sacramento right now by both parties
are disgusting.  I think that there will be a high political price to
pay for all of the participants.

>> Oh, so when a Republican does something you don't like its just 
>> because they are acting like a Democrat.  How can we be sure that
>> Mr. Bush won't succumb to this "Democratitis" during his second
>> term (especially when he won't have to worry about running for
>> re-election again).

>Because he has learned not to trust them.  It won't happen again, I am sure
>of that.  I am hoping he's paying attention to California.  THAT is how you
>handle a stupid legislative branch.

I doubt that Mr. Bush had some deep abiding trust in the Democrats
when he first became President.  Remember, he has been in the government
for almost as long as I have been alive, including the Congress.  He
knows how these guys work.  I think that Bush made his "no new taxes"
pledge in a cynical attempt to win votes, never having any intention
of following through with it.  Again, why should we trust Bush when
he has shown us that he will go back on a major campaign pledge at the
drop of a hat ?

Guido