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From: akwy@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Alan Kin Wah YIM)
Subject: Re: Student Beauty Pageant in Melbourne
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 12:54:51 GMT

john@jho.com (John Ho) writes:

>william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo) writes:

>>In article <oyang.716524569@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au> oyang@cs.monash.edu.au (Kai Shing O'Yang) writes:
>>>Folks,
>>>I suppose people haven't got much to do nowadays. The Hong Kong
>>>Students' Assoc. in Melbourne University will hold its Beauty Pageant in
>>>the coming weeks. Apparently, it has stirred up heaps of protests from
>>>feminists group in that Uni and they are vowed to close down the contest
>>>and also to disband the assoc.

>I like the idea.  Tell you what, since our FAQ maintainer for
>the HKPA is Alan Yim in Australia, maybe we can ask him to scan 
>all the pictures for all the contestants in the pageant and post
>it to our GIF sites.  We will then run a poll on SCHK to find
>out who is hot and who is not and we comapre it against the result.
>Alan, what do you think?
>-- 
>John Ho from Dallas, Texas USA. (john@jho.com)           - No news is bad news.

Oh god!! This news was exploding all over Melbourne schools. Now even all over
the world!! Unfortunately those MUHKSA committee are mostly commerce (&/or law)
people who don't have accounts to access to Usenet. Otherwise, I think they'll
make use such powerful media!! :-)

I also agree that the feedback from HKers of Monash Uni is even more than
those in Melbourne Uni itself. At least the first one to expose this news to
SCHK is from Monash.....

I think this issue will keep exploding in SCHK for the time being. Let me add
some more "dynamite"!! From the message of the "side road" (lo bin sair),
this is one of the major events in the upcoming ball held by MUHKSA. In the
past couple of weeks or so, there're already more than 50 large tables booked.
There'll be 2 rounds: Casual wear & formal dress. Of course, the candidates
will be questioned too.

Unfortunately, I've to "go up the mountain to deal with those 'mo lum bai cup'".
If I've infinity time like those freshmen/freshwomen, I'm sure I'll go
"down-hill" to "central-field" and join the 8 magazine reporters/editors.
Then I'll have more "side-road" messages for you SCHKers. HA HA.....

Remarks: "go up the mountain" = go to the boring labs & libraries
	 "central-field" (chung yuen) = Union house cafeteria
	 "8 magazine"..... You should know that, the nosey magazine.

Too bad that I won't go to the ball either. Anyone else in Melbourne care to
take up that 8 magazine reporter job for SCHKers?

I hoped some serious netters here wouldn't get too serious about this contest.
It's supposed to be an after-dinner leisure issue. May be some day other
HKSAs will organize a similar contest for gentlemen!! :-)

Alan of HKPA.POPSTARS.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: oyang@cs.monash.edu.au (Kai Shing O'Yang)
Subject: Re: Student Beauty Pageant in Melbourne
Organization: Computer Science, Monash University, Australia
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 02:51:51 GMT

akwy@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Alan Kin Wah YIM) writes:

>I also agree that the feedback from HKers of Monash Uni is even more than
>those in Melbourne Uni itself. At least the first one to expose this news to
>SCHK is from Monash.....

Yeh, to show how "mo liu" are the MUHKA people. 
--
- Kai S O'Yang, Dept of Comp Sci, Monash Uni, Clayton VIC 3168, Australia  
- AARNET: oyang@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au         - Voice : +(61) 3 565 5778
					       - FAX :   +(61) 3 565 5146
'If one believes everything from the book, rather have no book.'
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: allenw@buengf.bu.edu (Allen Wieschge)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: BU Hong Kong Club
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:43:00 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: allenw@buengf.bu.edu

I heard they are having meeting on Tues. 9/15/92 in SMG 224 7:00pm.
I guess you can easily get a flyer everywhere in your school.

Kevin from Dartmouth.....  I agree with you.  

I guess we should not Post news concerning about the activity within a 
school like BU.

BTW, I got the infomation in the Computer Center where most of the people
are logging on and reading news. weird that you did not notice.

Have fun!


Darkman.

From: yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 08:52:27 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: [pronouns] gender-neutral pronoun?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard ISG-SBU-PWD, UK.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong

>soc.culture.hongkong / chungdan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Zhong Qi Iao (Daniel)) /  5:25 am  Sep  8, 1992 /

>     So far, I have not seen responses of using:
> / ||
>/|-++-+
> | || |
> | |
> | +---
>for the sex-neutral pronoun.  Some Taiwan television series using this
>in the subtitle no matter the mentionee's sex.  Well, in speech, we have
>only one:
[.. delete ..]
>which is the archaic form of the first character, but which I have not seen
>used today.  So, we can revive it to be the sex-neutral pronoun.

>                                       ZHONG Qi-Iao
>[follow-up to: sci.lang]
>----------

Please, don't put political correctless things here. Unlike western language,
Chinese character rarely have sex when designed. This character (Ok. he) was
used in Classic for all sex and things. The word (She and It) were not 
general used until this 100 years after the influence from the west.
But I agree some characters are sex discrimination like (3 female). But 
change it may cause even more unjust. How do you thing the word huperson
(instead of human)? Would you hate to see or thinking of sex when you see
M-A-N ?
From: rahman@ces.cwru.edu (Rahman A. Soomro)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Rain Relief Fund
Date: 9 Sep 1992 19:33:37 GMT
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science, Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: easy.ces.cwru.edu


Dear friends,

Recent rains in Pakistan have caused devastating effects on the 
daily life of the Pakistani people. Scores of people have lost there
lives and more than a million have been homeless.

	I appeal to you to help our brothers and sisters in need
and donate some money to help them. Please send your contribution
(tax deductible) with your name and also I request you to collect 
donations from any source -- your colleagues at work, friends, business
associates, customers, persons from any nationalities and backgrouds
to help people in trouble. 

	We are tying you help suffering peoples, who are suffering
from disease and malnutrition.

Please mail your contributions to:

Pakistan Rain Relief Fund
4105 Providence drive
St. Charles, MO 63304
USA


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: chiu@gpb-mac.sps.mot.com (Norman Chiu)
Subject: Re: New York City
Organization: Motorola Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:04:03 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.081545.3681@arizona.edu>,
wongcj@evax2.engr.arizona.edu (Just John) writes:
>
>     Does anyone know what is the area like around the Grang Hyatt Hotel
> in Grand Central?  i.e. is it safe to go out and walk around the Hotel
> after dark?  Also, how is the bus system from there to those tourist
> attractions?  i.e. is it safe to ride the bus after dark? 
> 

Hi Just John,
    It is okay to walk around NY City as long as you have someone else
to walk with you, especially after dark.  Use common sense, like walk
along the main streets in well lit conditions; don't read a street map
in public (so everyone knows you are a tourist); and most important of
all, DO carry some cash with you.  If you get mugged, you will have
some money to give to the mugger so he/she won't knife you out of
anger.  And finally, don't walk anywhere after 10pm.

    Enjoy your trip :-)

-Norman
From: mok@fortsc.enet.dec.com (Charles Mok)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Where to buy US textbooks in Hong Kong
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:17:34 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


I thought someone asked this question lately but I couldn't find it....

Where can one buy US textbooks in Hong Kong?  Like names of bookstores....that
would be most useful.  Thank you!

Charles
From: khan@ces.cwru.edu (Mansoor Khan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: REPOST: Hassan A. Effendi, Gallery of Freedom Fighters
Date: 9 Sep 1992 21:30:38 GMT
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science, Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: king.ces.cwru.edu

	
		Gallery of Freedom Fighters
		---------------------------
	
		Hasan Ali Effendi
		=================

	Hasan Ali Effendi was born in a small village of Hala district
in a poor family. By purely personal effort he educated himself and 
chose law as a profession. The difficulties he faced in his own
education created in him a fiery urge to found an institution of
higher education for the Muslims. In this mission he was helped by the
historian-jurist Justice Ameer Ali, on whose invitation he visited Calcutta
to observe the education system there. At last in 1885 he established
the Sindh Madrsatul Islam where the Quaid-e-Azam too was a student.
He also established the first Muslim girls' school of Sindh at
Marriot Road In Karachi.
	He died on August 20, 1896 in Hyderabad and was buried in his
own orchard. His efforts placed Sindh on the educational map of the 
subcontinent; he is called the "Sir Syed of Sindh."

P.S. From 50 years, Golden Jubilee, Pakistan Resolution 1940-90, by PIA.

Mansoor Ahmed Khan
Cleveland, Ohio.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: anajam@athena.mit.edu (ADIL NAJAM)
Subject: Re: intent intentions. is Re: the terminator part n : )
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 19:41:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.014921.11211@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, alam@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ALAM AFSHAN) writes:
|> anajam@athena.mit.edu (ADIL NAJAM) writes:
|> 
|> >	.....but what are intentions to be judged by??????
|>                  ~~~~shdnt that b who?

		I thought the "Who" and "When" were taken care of in the
		articles of Faith.........it was the "What" (as in, "what
		yardstick?") that I ponder upon ;-)

		......also should "who" b "ho", or maybe, "hu"...??
		....pardon me o my-tea 1, i no not what i rite

|> 
|> >	ADIL [aawara gard-e-shehrr ko pathhar na maarna
|> >	      aadaab-aashna  na  saahi,  aadmi tou  hai] NAJAM
|> Afshan.   aadmi hai kya :)


	Good point.     ???????   
	At the risk of misquoting, let me misquote again:

	paas kay dushwaar hai har kaam ka aasaaN hoona
	aadmi ko bhi muyassar nahiN, insaaN hoona


	ADIL [aabhi khuda  ki  zaroorat  nahiN adaam mujh ko
	      aabhi tou meiN koyee insaaN talaash karta houN] NAJAM
From: mausoof@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: SUFI MUSIC
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:12:49 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

	I am looking for a label released by Arion records last year. The title
is something like "Turkish Dervishes: Sufi songs ..", it is recorded in France
at some ethnic culture fair with live recording of Sufic Zikr and reed flute
music. Does anyone know about this, I am willing to buy a copy if it is no
longer on the market.


P.S I just returned from Konya(Turkey), resting place of Maulana Rumi. Anyone
interested in Sufism should think of going there, it is a fullfilling
experience.
						Saqib Mausoof
From: hassan@cup.portal.com (hassan monu alam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Air Monopoly Ended
Date: Wed,  9 Sep 92 21:11:48 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Far Eastern Economic Review, 10 September 1992
---------------------------
AIR MONOPOLY ENDED
Ending a monopoly by Pakistan International Airlines, the government 
on 26 August threw open all domestic air routes to any Pakistan-based 
passenger or cargo company. All overseas destinations not served by 
Pakistan International have been offered on a first-come-first-served 
basis, though this may require negotiations of new air rights. Local 
airlines waiting to fly internationally will be allowed unrestricted us of 
Islamabad's new Jinnah Air Terminal
From: gulati@access.digex.com (Raj K. Gulati)
Subject: ASIAN MATRIMONIAL SERVICES, INC.
Reply-To: gulati@access.digex.com
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt MD USA
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 19:12:05 GMT


Dear all:       

  As neither an agent nor informed client, I'd like to help in making 
  the general Asian community aware of a new relationship search service
  known as ASIAN MATRIMONIAL SERVICES, INC.

  ASIAN MATRIMONIAL SERVICES, INC. is a legit company newly registered
  in the state of Maryland. The president's name is Anju. The contact
  information is:

       Attn: Anju, President
       ASIAN MATRIMONIAL SERVICES, INC.
       P.O. Box 2485
       Gaithersburg, MD 20886-2485, USA
       (301)-216-2188

  Anju has told me that A.M.S. "caters to the relationship search needs
  of the Asian community." Persons pursuing ALL types of relationships
  are encouraged to subscribe (including: dating, just friendship, or
  arranged marraige). Parents and Guardians are catered to, as well as
  the large ind/paki student populace in the U.S. and abroad. Women are
  particularly encouraged to subscribe.

  Please direct all further inquires to the company directly.

  If you send direct e-mail to me, I'll try and answer any questions
  to which I know what to say. For details, please call Anju, or if
  you would like me to pass a message along (its local for me), I'd
  be happy to (send your name, address, phone number, and I'll tell
  Anju to send you the info packet).
.
  I have posted a similar article in soc.culture.indian, and soc.
  culture.bangladesh.

Regards,
  
-- 
Raj K. Gulati, Unix Technology, M/S MC07B, G.E. INFORMATION SERVICES, 401 North
 Washington Street, Rockville, MD 20850, USA. [QK: RAJ@GEIS] 1-(301)-340-5204
  CompuServe: 70323,1430  Internet: gulati@access.digex.com, GEnie: R.GULATI
  *** This message is submitted with no intended representation of G.E. ***


-- 
Raj K. Gulati, Unix Technology, M/S MC07B, G.E. INFORMATION SERVICES, 401 North
 Washington Street, Rockville, MD 20850, USA. [QK: RAJ@GEIS] 1-(301)-340-5204
  CompuServe: 70323,1430  Internet: gulati@access.digex.com, GEnie: R.GULATI
  *** This message is submitted with no intended representation of G.E. ***
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: ahmada@serss0 (Azeem Ahmad)
Subject: Re: Hasrat Mohani, Gallery of Freedom Fighters
Organization: Florida International University, Miami
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 01:56:35 GMT


Wasn't Hasrat Mohani also president/office-holder of Communist Party of India?
I heard that somewhere but I am not sure. Does anybody know anything about it?

By the way, I do consider him a sincere politician and devout muslim.
(Not that my consideration otherwise could belittle his greatness.)


Azeem.
From: ashai@usc.edu (EHTISHAM AHMED ASHAI)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Chemical/Environmental Engg Directory
Date: 9 Sep 1992 12:34:31 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: koh-sun8.usc.edu


I would like to updtae the directory of the Chemical and Environmental Engineers in the world. 

It would be nice to have a feed back form all the community persnnel. Furthermore I strongly feel that we should encouarge people from back home to step forward in these fields. We have a very small representaion in USA in the above mentioned fields. Suggesstions are more than welcome.

Please state the following info:

Name:
Grad School:
Undergrad Sch:
Majors:
Deg. Objective:BS/MS/PhD
Adddress:
Tel:
Fax:
Email:
Comments and/or other info.

Gte to your keybards and start writing. One other thing I would like to add is that if you the people in this field who do not follow SCP kindly do pass the information to them or to me so I could corresspond directly.

Thank You

Ehtisham Ashai
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: weiner@medg.lcs.mit.edu (The Frog)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Re: Who is 'Uzayr???
Date: 6 Sep 92 01:09:35 GMT
Reply-To: weiner@MEDG.UUCP (Merril Weiner)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Laboratory for Computer Science, MIT

In article <1992Sep5.144852.29906@prism.poly.edu> ahussain@prism.poly.edu (Arshad Hussain) writes:
>>From: simon1@bass.bu.edu (Simon Streltso
>>>	"The Jews call 'Uzayr a son of God',
>>
>
>EZRA in English. Quran ref(9:30)
>
>Arshad

When did we call him that?  Inasmuch as we're all God's children, it's cool.

--
----
   Merril Weiner                weiner@medg.lcs.mit.edu
   11 Ashford Terrace           weiner@medg.uucp
   Allston, MA  02134           Boston University School of Law
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: mirza@sce.carleton.ca (Murad A. Mirza)
Subject: Bosnia has six weeks to live! count down begins!
Summary: Bosnia no chance
Keywords: Bosnia
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 00:57:07 GMT

assalam alaikum

the ultimate humiliation has begun, since muslims can't do anything any
way, therefore just sit back relax and enjoy the CNN coverage, and 
do please inform Allah (PIA) that sorry Al-Qah'haar our hands were tied
and we were gagged and bound, that is why we were not able to do
anything.

my cousin (chacha ka bayta) is back from Sarajevo in one piece but with
some indentations/dents here and there, he must be speaking his heart
out at the ISNA convention.  since i believe what he  is saying, therefore
i can just say that during my lifetime i have been a spectator, on the
sidelines (he has some film too, with the bullets and everything!), to
the repitition of Changez Khan's wrath, killing fields of Spain, and
numerous other horrifying exterminations of muslims and others which
took place earlier. 

as we (muslims) believe this is the begining of the end, as had been
pointed out in several hadiths (although, nobody knows the exact
time for the Day of Judgement, except The Al-Qah'haar).  

during this time our duty (my opinion, formed from hadiths) is to hold
whatever is left of our Din tight and pray to Allah to be merciful, HE
is the only solution.

as pointed out in one hadith (from Bukhari) "a time will come when muslims
will be like a feast on the table, and people will be devouring them with
haste." (this is from my memory, see Bukhari for complete hadith).

rest is fine, i am enjoying life as usual (missing prayers here and there),
eating more than needed, trying to build a healthy fat bank balance,
watching TV, saying a lot but doing ...., and.....!!!!. 

Murad [ Sub Thaath Para Reh JaAye Ga Jub Laad Chalay Ga Banjara (Ihsan Danish),
	means (not exactly), end for me may be nearer than i thought] Mirza.
From: mac1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mubashir Cheema)
Subject: Re: Email Karachi: Progress: Phone Installed: Testing Begins
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 09:01:05 GMT

ia4@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Imran Anwar) writes:



>Assalam Alaikum.  By the grace of Allah I am pleased to announce the
>following good news. I have just been informed by my brother Dr Usman
>Anwar in Lahore that my Karachi office phone line was installed today.
>Shukar Alhamdolillah.

>The phone number will hopefully be issued tomorrow. Testing will begin
>immediately and the first tests will be conducted between Lahore and
>Karachi, and Sialkot and Karachi.  This should not take too long as Ashar
>Nisar is in Pakistan right now.

>I expect to follow up with an "official" announcement of the number and
>specs for you very soon.  In the meantime, my email address will be

>imran@imran.ar.pk
>imran@imran.pk

>Thank you everyone whose words of encouragement, and suggestions, have 
>been most useful in the last few weeks (when nothing was happening due
>toi T&T and rain problems)

>You do not have to wait for an "official" announcement on the net to inform
>your friends and family about internet email in Pakistan. You can have
>them contact:

>Dr Usman Anwar
>IMRAN-Net
>3-J
>Gulberg-III
>Lahore-54660
>Pakistan

>(042) 830111, 830847
>internet: usman@imran.ar.pk
>The Karachi number will be announced as soon as available
>Sincerely,
>Imran Anwar





    Voila !!!!!
    Hope to hear from you about the Karachi number soon.   


Mubashir.
From: memon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Naveed Siraj Memon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: desi gif's ?
Date: 5 Sep 92 05:54:41 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <12610007@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> aza@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Asad Aziz) writes:
>
>
>	Hi,
>		I too would like to get these gif images, unfortunately,
>	my machine does not recognize the name of 'z.eecs.umich.edu' and
>	needs the full IP address. Would someone post the IP address for 
>	this machine so that I too can enjoy these images. 
>
>	The IP address of the form '22.3.345.109' can easily be obtained 
>	by logging on and executing grep 'machinename' /etc/hosts. 
>
>	
>	thanks
>	asad aziz
>	(pakman@hppakman.fc.hp.com)

Try 141.212.99.7

I think it works, I never use IP addresses but I tried it just now and
it works to telnet/ftp to z.eecs.umich.edu


Naveed
From: mmpjh@angelo.amd.com (Javed Hussain)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: URDU word processer
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:28:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Santa Clara, CA

Hello Pakistani Fellows:

I posted a URDU word processe. Could some kind sole put this in a ftp
site for future reference.

Thanks,

Javed
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan