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From: Mary.Creasey@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: September LAFA Filk
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Aug 21 1992
Date: 10 Sep 92  10:19:09

LAFA Filksing
 
WHEN   -- Saturday, Sept. 19, 1992 at 7 PM
WHERE  -- House of the Prancing Skiltaire
          (AKA Mark Merlino & Rod O'Riley)
          13412 Gilbert, Garden Grove, CA 92644
          714/539-6547
 
YOUR HOSTS are Mark Merlino and Rod O'Riley.
 
DIRECTIONS: See Thomas Bros. Orange Co., page 798, C-7 (1992 edition);
page 15, grid E-5 (older editions).
 
FROM THE NORTH AND WEST:  Take the 110, 710, 605 or other freeway to the
San Diego Fwy (405) South.  Exit to the Garden Grove Fwy (22) East. Take
the Magnolia exit.  Turn Left onto Magnolia at the end of the ramp, then
turn Right immediately after the fwy overpass onto Trask.  Pass the next
signal, then take the second Left onto Gilbert.  The filksite is on the
right by the illuminated "Prancing Skiltaire" sign.
 
FROM THE SOUTH AND EAST: Take the 5, 55 or 57 freeway to the Garden Grove
Fwy (22) West.  Take the Magnolia exit.  Turn Right onto Trask at the end
of the ramp.  Take the second Left onto Gilbert.  The filksite is on the
right at the illuminated "Prancing Skiltaire" sign.
 
FILK STYLE:
The filk will be a Moderated Chaos.  Rod will moderate as needed.
 
NOTES
1.   Some crash space available at the filksite - call in advance for
     arrangements.
2.   There is a Feline Warning.  The four-footed furry fiends will be
     banished from the area, but traces of their existance will remain.
3.   Pre-Filk Dinner about 5 PM.  Will be at the Seafood Palace - South
     East Corner.
     of Westminster Bl. and Newland. Please  call for # attending
4.  NO SMOKING -- PERIOD!! (Except allowed outside.)
5.   NOTICE: This household is NOT munchkin safe - smalls will require
     close supervision.
6.   There are four (4) silicon life forms present.
7.   Bring all of your usual filk stuff.
 
                              NEXT LAFA FILK
                             24 October 1992
                       House Of Perpetual Commotion
                           John & Mary Creasey
                            3754 W. 170th St.
                         Torrance, CA 90504-1204
                              (310) 329-6772


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From: Gerald.Bliss@f281.n120.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: NESFA Hymnal / Woad song
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Aug 21 1992
Date: 05 Sep 92  16:39:00

 On 09-01-92 Joe Bethancourt wrote to Chris Croughton... 
 
 CC>  CC> Does anyone know how to contact (preferably by email) the people 
 CC>  CC> responsible for The NESFA Hymnal?  Specifically, I've noticed 
 CC> that the 
 CC>  CC> song 'Woad' (to the tune of Men Of Harlech) (p120 of the Second 
 CC>  CC> Edition) is not credited - it's actually Rudyard Kipling!  I did 
 CC> say in 
 CC>  CC> other posts that Kipling was a filker... 
 CC> 
 CC> Well.....I would LOVE to have documentation that R. Kipling wrote 
 CC> those 
 CC> words, but I fear this is an Urban Legend on the same lines that Bobby 
 CC> Burns 
 CC> wrote the "Ball of Ballyknure (Kirriemuir)." 
 
The known authors of Woad are Flanders and Swann (Michael and Thomas, 
respectively, if my memory serves...)  It has been so credited in a 
number of filk collections, include FFILE. 
 
... OFFLINE 1.40 * Life after death? Is it like terminate and stay resident? 

--- DCQwk/T.A.G.  1.4a
From: asr@castle.ed.ac.uk (Angus "Fluffy" Rae)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Need Lyrics To "Hacker"
Date: 14 Sep 92 12:45:04 GMT
Organization: CATHY_VoiceMail_Project

allender@ils.nwu.edu (Laura Allender) writes:
>Some filks requested that I post the lyrics if they ever 
>came my way so here they are thanks to Alun Jones.
>Title    : The Hacker's Song

[song deleted]

As a suggestion (taken from the original sketch) for a final line.

"Oh [insert name]! And I thought you were so structured!"

Just a thought...


-- 
Angus G Rae, the Cuddly Vampire Teddy Bear [asr@castle.edinburgh.ac.uk]
"Let me explain about Genetic Engineering. That's where you take a cell
from a human being and put it into a sheep, in the hope that one day it
will go out and buy something."           Neil Innes, More Jam Tomorrow
From: Scott.Malcomson@f110.n114.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Lutes
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Aug 21 1992
Date: 07 Sep 92  19:54:00

 Joe Bethancourt denied allegations of involvement with Dave Aronson over
Lutes:
 
 MC> Joe, what's the difference between a lute and an arch-lute?
 DA> Rank.  After you've been a lute for a long time you might get promoted
 DA> to arch-lute. 
 JB> Well.....actually, it's a holdover from the Old Athabascan, "Lut,"
 JB> meaning "dipping a cat's tail in hot wax." This word was a loan-word
 JB> into Mongol, and was applied to the Mongol methods of shopping "lut,
 JB> pillage and burn," thereby proving that Ghengis Khan played heavy metal
 JB> and thrash rock...... (just look at any Molly Hatchet album cover....)
 JB> The Celtic god "Lut" is also involved, tho his wife don't know about
 JB> it yet, being fully named "Lut Lagnmfdhachdhackackackdh," meaning "he
 JB> who shops at the Mall alone, but sometimes with Buffy."
 JB> Then there's the segue over into Old Norski, "lutfisk," which is
 JB> better left  alone on a family echo.
 JB> The Archlute of Canterbury is another matter entirely.

And let us not forget that "lut", during the Protestant Reformation, became
associated with the word "harlot". Wanting to differentiate between the
original Old Norski meaning and the Biblical, an "s" was added to one version
of "lut", and an "e" to the other. What happened to the "x", we're not sure,
but we have had a channeler in psychotherapy for three weeks attempting to
contact Rasputin, who may have had something to do with it just prior to the
Russian Revolution.

    Many people don't realize that "lute", in certain parts of Latvia, still
refers to the part of a gutter that one's foot is most likely to trip up
against while crossing the street without watching where you are going, and in
Outer Mongolia a variant, "loot", is used to describe tax-auditing procedures.

---LCD


... But soft, what light through yonder tagline breaks?
--- Blue Wave/QBBS v2.10
From: Scott.Malcomson@f110.n114.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Poem
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Aug 21 1992
Date: 09 Sep 92  22:29:00

 Shadow Spear denied allegations of involvement with All over Poem:

 SS> Into the Winter, and we find
 SS> The year will end as it began.
 SS> From Winter, to Spring, to Summer, to Fall
 SS> The cycle now begins again.

Hoorah! Author! Author!


---LCD


... Atu and Kupu are living under the kitchen sink!
--- Blue Wave/QBBS v2.10
From: Dave.Aronson@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: dredged up ancient memory
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Aug 21 1992
Date: 10 Sep 92  23:25:34

Tune: obvious

 Fairy jockstrap, fairy jockstrap,
 Gourmet food, gourmet food.
 Sonny laid my Tina, Sonny laid my Tina,
 Dang his dong!  Dang his dong!

--- Maximus 2.01wb
From: Mary.Creasey@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Cthulu
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Aug 21 1992
Date: 06 Sep 92  12:06:44

It was indeed a Fish song; it's in a _From The Cockpit_, the post-con
songbook from Con-Chord 2. Under her blanket permission-to-post:
      Run, Cthulu, Run  (c) 1982 by Leslie Fish
      (c) Firebird Arts & Music, Inc.
CHORUS:
Run, Cthulu, run, run, Cthulu, run.
You're all made out of jelly; you're gonna melt in the sun.
(Verses)
Lovecraft says to Derleth, "They're comin' from Beyond,
But don't you fear; our safety's here in the _Necronomicon_." (Ch)
Cthulu says to Lovecraft: "I'm comin' to make you mine."
Lovecraft says: "Go f*** yourself; I've got the Elder Sign." (Ch)
Hastur and Tsathoggua were sittin' 'round blowing grass.
Hastur says to Tsathoggua, "I'm gonna kick ol' Cthulu's ass." (Ch)
Cthulu says to Hastur, "You know this isn't fair.
I'm demon of the water, and you're demon of the air." (Ch)
Cthulu says, "When we take the Earth, we'll divide it up real fine.
You can have the surface, but the sewers all are mine." (Ch)
Azathoth told Hastur: "This's been an awful day.
My pipers got some super-grass, and they're all too stoned to play." (Ch)
Lovecraft on the subway tells Derleth: "Don't look back.
"The trains are late 'cause Hastur's chasing Cthulu down the track." (Ch)
**********
Anyway, that was the version as of 1982; there may be more verses now,
but I haven't heard them.


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From: ericm@eebbs.isis.org (Eric Mathurin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: The First Annual RUSH (or NMS?) Convention.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 16:57:10 EST
Organization: Electronic Encounters BBS

> 	I agree. Even though i live in the midwest, i am probably 

I also agree with Toronto... 

Just thought I'd squeeze that in!

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From: jlarke@css.itd.umich.edu (Jason Larke)
Subject: Re: NMS Convention
Organization: Game:Guild
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 02:26:29 GMT

Come on, now. All these references to Lakeside Park, and suggestions
for spring and summer dates, and not one true fan has suggested the
24th of May. It seems to be that we really *must* have it close to this
date.

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From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: NMS Convention
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:00:52 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <BuL1wC.Lz3@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> fultonja@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (Andy Fulton) writes:

>4th of July sounds cool.  

Not! Driving during the period around the 4th is more dangerous and
flying is likely more expensive.

>I also think that the 24th of May would be cool, but
>this is a holiday in Canada, and if we want to gather there, we would have to
>compete with lots of Canadians who are there for a Victoria Day celebration.

Problems similar to those above.

>Or maybe we could try Bastille Day (July 14) but that may pose the same
>problem...

I think this is likely not a problem except in Que'bec. The best of the
proposed alternatives, IMHO...


Gregg




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Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Why does Presto usually get a bad rap?
From: tbeaudoin@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 22:05:25 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

> Btw everybody, check out UK. Both of their albums (titles: UK and Danger
> Money) are excellent. Personnel: (UK) Allan Holdsworth, John Wetton,
> Eddie Jobson, Bill Bruford; (Danger Money) John Wetton, Eddie Jobson,
> Terry Bozzio. 
> UK played state-of-the-art prog that everyone should be familiar with. 
> 
> Tero Valkonen
> d40374w@kaira.hut.fi

	Can you list the years of those albums? Thanks!
Sounds like something worth checking out, especially with Bruford and
Holdsworth...

Thomas Beaudoin

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner)
Subject: TEST -Don't READ this
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 23:18:07 GMT

  This is only a test.


-- 
 = U   U     IIIII =================Les Claypool- I will rape your personality==
 = U   U       I    John Meseke              Pummel you with my own philosophy==
 = U   U  of   I                              Strip you of your self-integrity==
 = UUUUU     IIIII  jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu===To make you all a bit like me.==
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From: fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Frank Erick Sellin)
Subject: Re: Why does Presto usually get a bad rap?
Keywords: Presto
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 01:03:25 GMT

Things that make you go, "hmmm..."
I dunno, when Presto came out it certainly sounded like the band had gotten
some huge problem off their chests and had fun doing it, although it fell
a bit short of the fire and energy you hear on the early stuff.  As for dark
and depress, the only songs that really fit that bill are The Pass and
Scars--and every single song on that album, whether it's in a minor key
signature or not, is done with that trademark philosophy of Ged's: "I always
try to sing the songs to convey as much hope as possible".  Just a little
something I remember him saying, albeit a bit paraphrased here.

The only annoying thing about Presto (and some of RTB for that matter) is
that I think Rupert Hine has no clue how to record drums. If you're crank-
ing it on your box or whatever (and don't have the 85 watts of earth-shaking
power that your friends may have), the drum tracks come off way flat and
thin, unless you really screw with the graphic EQ or bass/treble control.

Anyway, I just want to say that when ShoDon't Tell first hit the airwaves,
I remember thinking, "Holy shit. The guys have got it back with a vengeance."

Frank Sellin
P.S. Whatever beef people have with Hold Your Fire, I submit IMHO that it is
possibly the best recorded album of theirs, in terms of sheer sound and 
engineering.

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From: v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: The First Annual RUSH (or NMS?) Convention.
Date: 6 Sep 92 23:30:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <95447@bu.edu>, jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes...
>In article <1992Sep6.143752.1@vax1.umkc.edu> tbeaudoin@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
> 
>>	So, alt.music.rush'ers, when is our first Rush Convention
>>going to be .. and WHERE?  (Toronto?)
> 
>How about North of Toronto? :)

How about In Buffalo?
;)

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Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: burnett@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Andy Burnett)
Subject: What singles have been released from RTB?
Organization: US US Army Corps of Engieneers - Construction Eng Research Lab
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 22:06:28 GMT



  So far I have found "Ghost of a Chance" and "Roll the Bones" with the Neil
Peart interview.  I have heard that there were 3 such interview singles
released.  Is this true?

		&y
-- 
Andy Burnett
US Army Corps of Engineers
Construction Engineering Research Labs
From: albertr@crchh780.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Albert Reva)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: The First Annual RUSH (or NMS?) Convention.
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:59:34 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx


What about our international friends?  The only airport that everyone flyes to
is either LA or NY.  Fares to NY from anywhere in the USA can often be found
for under $200.00, plus all the FUN and bootlegs, and number of people no other
city can rival that.  NY is also very close to Canada, so our Canadian friends
could come with no problems whatsoever...If we are to have it anymore to the south I don't think many Canadians or internationals would come....

As far as cost to get to NY + all the above advantages, I think we have found a place!  Lets start planning on date!!!!

albertr
From: ericm@eebbs.isis.org (Eric Mathurin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: NMS Convention
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 16:33:34 EST
Organization: Electronic Encounters BBS

jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:
 
> I think this is likely not a problem except in Que'bec. The best of the
> proposed alternatives, IMHO...

I've never heard of anyone (including Quebec) that celebrates
Bastille Day.  ;-)


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From: rjwyatt@bnr.ca (Richard Wyatt)
Subject: Re: The First Annual RUSH (or NMS?) Convention
Reply-To: rjwyatt@bnr.ca (Richard Wyatt)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 12:16:26 GMT


> I hate to persist....but New York is the only place that not only everyone
> knows, but it would be alot of fun too!  As I stated in previous post,
> Canadians would find this location an excellent choice since they would only
> have to take a 4 hour bus ride.  Alot of Rush fans already live near by
> (Boston, Jersey, Penn, etc)
> the rest can simply fly...C'mon is very affordable to fly to New York, and we
> could probably stay at other Rush fans houses....
>
> albertr

A 4 Hour Bus Ride from CANADA to NY.  That's some bus!  A 4 Hour Bus Ride from
Montreal perhaps (not sure on exact time).

I still have to cast my vote for Toronto.  Home of the boyz.


Rich.
From: exumfs@exu.ericsson.se (Mark Steph)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush & Ayn Rand - HELP PLEASE
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:19:51 GMT
Reply-To: exumfs@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems

In article 95128@bu.edu, jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.150603.2206@exu.ericsson.se> exumfs@exu.ericsson.se writes:
>>In article 24579@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu, KAMCHAR@ibm.cl.msu.edu () writes:
>
>>>     I would suggest that you check out the book "The New Left--The
>>>Anti-Industrial Revolution" and read the chapter "Apollo vs Dionysis," then
>>>listen to "Hemispheres" (the cut, althought the whole album is good).  Then ask
>>>yourself--who would you rather pick on this-Rand or Rush.  I'm sure you'll
>>>choose Rush on this matter.
>
>>Hold on a minute... Hemishpheres is *extremely* "Randian."  Rand's books
>>(and subsequent other Objectivist writers) are *full* of references to
>>the "Mind-Body Dichotomy." 
>
>>Objectivism's conclusion is much like Rush's: Heart and mind (emotion and logic)
>>are inter-related and should be integrated together.
>
>Inter-related perhaps, but the `integration' is hierarchical: the emotions
>are to subjugated by the rational faculty.
>
>
>
>Gregg
>
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>Dept(s). of Physics (and Philosophy)      ------------    (_) \|\|  Trystero?
>Boston University, 590 Commonwealth Ave.,Boston MA 02215 --------------------- 


What I mean is this: 

What I have read/heard on Obj. theories of emotions and the Mind/Body Dichotomy 
is that emotions/reason are *integrated*.  By integrated I mean that they are
not 2 functions, but actually 2 parts of the same function.

Yes, emotions are "secondary," but only because they are a part of reason.
Emotions are automatic responses to perceptions, "programmed" by reason.  Like
a computer program, they happen without concious control.  Also like a program,
they may contain programming errors--which is why people have often said
things like "my heart says yes, but my mind says no".  This doesn't mean that
the heart (emotion) is always incorrect and reason is correct--  It may mean that
your reasoning contains improper premises or incorrect logic and your emotions
(assuming you have "programmed" them correctly) come up with the correct answer.

So, emotions are an extremely valuable tool. When heart/mind differ in conclusion,
it means it is time to closely examine the causes for both conclusions--integrating
heart and mind ("in a single, perfect sphere").

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From: craigs@pyrdc.UUCP (craig)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: UK
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:14:03 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation

In article <1992Sep12.160525.1@vax1.umkc.edu> tbeaudoin@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
[UK Stuff deleted]
>
>	Can you list the years of those albums? Thanks!
>Sounds like something worth checking out, especially with Bruford and
>Holdsworth...

If memory serves, 1978 thru 1980. There is a third release, a live set of
UK as a trio. All are available on CD, although DM and the live set may be
an import in your corner of the world.

Hawkwind fans! Do you think of "Tom Sawyer" as soon as you hear the first
notes of "LSD" from ELECTRIC TEPEE?

Regards,

Craig Shipley
>
>Thomas Beaudoin
From: adam@micromuse.co.uk (Adam Kerrison)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: The First Annual RUSH (or NMS?) Convention
Date: 9 Sep 92 08:07:37 GMT
Reply-To: adam@micromuse.co.uk
Organization: MicroMuse Ltd, London, Uk


> Ha!  Lets have it in Toronto, Lakeside Park. ;)

I agree with Sri ... It's got to be - Toronto, home of the band - Lakeside
Park ...

If it happens and its in Toronto I MIGHT be able to find the cash to come
over (and thats no small amount of cash !).

If not Toronto, then where ? All the people in the USA will want somewhere
in the USA but what about all the Rush fans worldwide - example:

> Thomas, your knowledge of geography blows me away. I might get far with
> the ignorance of yours. Could you please give me the shortest car route
> from Helsinki to Chicago? And I don't even have a car...
		- Tero Valkonen

If the venue is going to change around then eventually its got to be in Europe
at sometime.

Just my two 'cents' worth ...

I hope this happens - it would be a great party !!!

Adam

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