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From: dkempste@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David N Kempster)
Subject: Summerslam and Syndies
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:57:58 GMT


There have been several posts in responce to Herbs list of summerslam events of
the gee those are not the feuds that they are promoting on the syndies variety.
It is worth noting that the only match that has officially been announced in 
this country is the main event. They have not annonuced these others because in
some cases they have not set them up yet. This will happen in the upcoming 
weeks, and then we will get these matches annonuced a couple at a time. Recall 
that we on r.s.p.w. have known about the main event for at least a month and 
they are acting like it is big news this week on the synides.

Keep in mind also that the feuds that they have been advertizing on the syndies
were for the summer house shows. They have happend over and over again acroos 
the country. By the way the ultimate warrior has beaten Shango every time.

Hope this will help


                                             David Kempster
                                             Fx
                                             The Unbound Variable
From: shess@admin1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: PWI Weekly Update 8/3
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:08:22 -0600
Keywords: Papa Morton
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University

> 
> 
> The big news from PWI this week (I dont think it was ever posted here)
> was that Rick Morton won the USWA title from Eddie Gilbert on July 13th
> in Memphis.  It was posted here before that Morton was leaving WCW,
> but I dont think any ever posted where he was going.  He is a *BIG* face
> in the USWA.  His father Paul Morton was the special ref for the match.
> Does anyone know if they are really related or if this is just another 
> PWI markish angle??
> 
> 
  Yes, Paul Morton is really Rick's father. This match was set up by a
  10 minute time limit title match on TV on Sat. July 11th. The 10 minute
  match went to a draw and Gilbert asked for 5 more minutes. Morton pinned
  Gilbert during the added 5 minutes and appeared to be the new champ.
  However, Gilbert quickly pointed out that the contract for the title
  match specified only a 10 minute match. Because the pinfall came during
  the added 5 minutes there could be no title change. Promoter Eddie Marlin
  immediately granted Morton a rematch for Monday the 13th, with Morton
  being allowed to select the referee. After Gilbert had signed the contract
  for the match Morton made his choice of referee, former USWA referee
  Paul Morton. Rick Morton's title reign proved short-lived when Gilbert
  won the belt back on Monday the 20th, aided by a run-in from brother
  Doug Gilbert. This in turn set up a tag match for Monday the 27th between 
  Eddie and Doug Gilbert and the Rock n Roll Express. Rick Morton and Robert
  Gibson had formed the Rock n Roll Express in Memphis years ago and were
  now reuniting there.


      Steve Hess
From: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Redefining the business (was Re: Weekend Syndies WHIFF and WCW)
Date: 31 Jul 92 04:21:17 GMT
Reply-To: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu
Organization: University of Fairbanks, Alaska...no wait, that's not right...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a3

In article <Brtrr7.8J@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel) writes...
> 
>   The unbelievable trick McMahon has pulled off is that he has actually
>made wrestling the second most important part of wrestling.  

Actually, that's far from an "unbelievable trick."  The unbelievable
trick was for him to succeed in the wrestling business with an approach
that was guaranteed to permanently turn off his father's consistent,
loyal customers and by no means guaranteed to replace them with
consistent, loyal customers of his own.

>All these big matches like Andre vs. Hogan (arguably the biggest match in 
>history)

By what standard?  Surely it drew the largest crowd and benefitted from
the largest amount of hype, but it certainly didn't draw the largest
gate in history, nor is it the largest money feud in history (probably
Antonio Inoki vs. Rusher Kimura, the Von Erichs vs. the Freebirds and a
few others which don't immediately come to mind drew more money than
anything Titan has ever done, save for perhaps Hogan vs. Paul Orndorff).

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From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: First Impressions of Herb
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:48:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

Oliver,

OP>Dump Matsumoto/Chigusa hair feud and Bull Nakano & Condor Saito vs. Dump and
  >someone - The video quality of these matches is just too poor to make them
  >watchable. They are very noisy too.

That is a shame.  That stuff is great.

OP>Jushin Riger vs. Naoki Sano series - These are all brilliant matches on ther
  >own but I found them too hard to watch all together. I found them to

I have a tape that has 22 Liger matches on it.  I don't know that I
would say they are hard to watch consecutively, but you do tend to not
appreciate them as much.  His matches are much like a fine wine.

  >bow and arrow submission, etc... The 4th match is highlighted by Riger havin
  >his mask ripped off (it hangs off his face) and bleeding. It's funny because
  >right before this match I was wondering if Riger had ever (and could) juice.

That match, from 1\31\91, is one of the greatest matches of all time.

  >a clothesline or a suplex... the Steiners wrestled better than the Roadies
  >but don't look as cool. I agree that it was a cheap ending.

So?  Who cares who looks cooler?  It's how they wrestle that's
important, at least to me.

OP>Stan Hansen/Bruiser Brody vs. Dory and Terry Funk - Pretty good match but
  >not as good as was rated. I still don't think Brody's that good.

Argh!
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From: moyj@warren1a.its.rpi.edu (Jayson Moy)
Subject: Martel/Michaels is this Deja Vu?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:39:45 GMT


On this Martel/Michaels fued set-up, isn't this sort of reminiscent(sp?)
of the situation a few years back when Savage interfered to have Stemaboat
retain the Intercontinental Belt so that Savage could beat Steamboat
for it? I might have the participants messed up, but doesn't this seem
like Deja vu?

Jayson Moy
moyj@rpi.edu
From: Donald Becker <marilion@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Wrestling TidBits   -   07/16
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 21:05:29 EDT
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

jewell@Data-IO.COM (Cal Jewell) writes:

> Scary Thought of The Week: El Gigante as Rocko.
 
Actually, I heard from George Emmons (yet another Buffalo poster) that
Bob Backlound would be Rocko. Why not? Backlund and the dummy have equal
personalities! :)
 
The only problem I see with this is Backlund selling out to Vince. Then 
again, so did Atlas, Race, Santana, Jacques Rougeau...
 
--Don
From: chrispy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christopher Palacios)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Need Help From You Video Collectors!
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:14:52 GMT
Reply-To: chrispy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christopher Palacios)
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin
Originator: chrispy@sneezy.cc.utexas.edu


I'm trying to start a wrestling video collection and would like to enlist
the help of the various video collectors on rspw.

I do the Chrispy Wrestling Video Reviews seen on rspw, but those tapes are
rented from local video stores.  My actual collection of wrestling videos
is Herb's tape and last week's WCW and WWF syndies.

If you can help me by copying some old PPVs or syndies for me, I will be
glad to cover your expenses and then some for your troubles.

I appreciate any help I can get.  I thank you in advance...

Chris

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From: joey@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.menes)
Subject: Arsenio
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:39:37 GMT
Keywords: Macho Man


	For all who care, the Macho Man Randy Savage will be
on The Arsenio Hall Show tonight at 11:30 pm.

joey



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From: GAINES@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Richard Gaines Jr.)
Subject: Lurking No more!!!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:41:21 GMT

Hi!!!

My name is Richard Gaines, Jr. and I'm a master's student at THE Ohio State
University!!

I am a big wrestling fan with emphasis on WRESTLING!!! (Sorry Vince!!!)

I spent last summer in Philly so I went to a couple of TWA cards!!  As a matter
of fact .....  I was present at the card with Hot Stuff vs. Cactus in a 2 out
of 3 falls match!!  When Cactus was taken off on a stretcher after the second
fall .... I was standing at the railing right next to him!!

I would like to get more info about Herb's tape and also get in on the info
being passed around!!

I have heard through a friend that Barry Windham will be the WCW Champ in Feb.
93.  I don't think that this has been posted but he will win the strap from
Simmons supposedly!!  BW is my favorite wrestler and it's about time if this
comes to pass!!

Hope to correspond with everyone on a consistent basis now!!

My e-mail address is GAINES@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu

Richard Gaines, Jr.
"The Master of the Claw" and still looking for Tommy Young!!

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From: funga@ecf.toronto.edu (FUNG Alexander Yok-Wai)
Subject: Re: WBF folds
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 02:38:51 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.142620.14191@eos.arc.nasa.gov> shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Richard Barry Shrum) writes:
>Also, does anyone has the lyrics of the WBF theme song "Go For IT"? 
>
I'm *almost* positive that the WBF theme song is "Go For It (Heart & Soul)"
from a rap/dance duo Ellis & Hare. It was prominently featured in the movie
_Rocky V_ (or was it VI? Whatever...the most recent one). I don't have lyrics,
but if you're desperate enough, this info should lead you to the source. :)

Alex (funga@ecf.toronto.edu) | Death to the WBF? YES!

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From: skar@plains.NoDak.edu (Keith Skar aka Roddy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: NEW WWF TAG CHAMPS........
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:39:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.19299
Organization: Ratt Pack Industries

In article <1992Jul22.204834.5242@kodak.kodak.com> dennett@sunshine.Kodak.COM (Charlie Dennett) writes:
>In article <92204.132109N79BC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <N79BC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>>
>>Fresh from the wrestling hotline..... The Natural Distasters have won the Belts
>>......On Monday nite in Boston from Money Inc.....IRS missed with the breifcase
>>, hit Dibiase and Earthquake covered for the pin!!!
>
>If it didn't happen on a PPV or if there was not a camera there to record
>it for showing on TV, then did it really happen????

I think it was a TV taping...so sooner or later, it should
show up on TV...I dont know if it will be before or after 
SS though.
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From: jmwojtal@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Wojo)
Subject: Re: Martel/Michaels is this Deja Vu?
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:19:55 GMT

In article <1grxj-p@rpi.edu> moyj@warren1a.its.rpi.edu (Jayson Moy) writes:
>
>On this Martel/Michaels fued set-up, isn't this sort of reminiscent(sp?)
>of the situation a few years back when Savage interfered to have Stemaboat
>retain the Intercontinental Belt so that Savage could beat Steamboat
>for it? I might have the participants messed up, but doesn't this seem
>like Deja vu?

It was after Wrestlemania 3 when on Saturday Nights main event, Steamboat
made his first title defense against Hercules.  Savage was there because he
had to fight a lumberjack match against George "The Animal" Steele.  Macho
Man was in the locker room watching on a monitor with Elizabeth and Mean Gene.

Into the Match, Hercules got Steamboat in the full nelson, Herc's finishing
move at that time.  Macho Man immediately belted out of the dressing room and
went to ringside and pulled Herc to the ropes breaking the hold.  Herc and his
manager Heenan argued outide the ring for a commercial, then Herc went back to
wrestle Steamboat.  With Macho Man outside the ring, Herc decided to get 
disqualified by choking him with the chain he brought in.  He then left the
ring, said a few things to Savage, and that was it.

I would be surprised if the Model doesn't try to get even with him, maybe
interfere in one of his title matches and disqualify him.  That would make a
better match than Hercules and Macho Man.




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From: spr@prism.gatech.EDU (Stefan Roth)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: WBF defunct
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:34:31 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

The rumors at the Gold's in Venice are strong that the WBF has closed its doors
for good. The buy rate on its last PPV was only about 1000 homes, pathetically
low. All facets of the WBF will be discontinued, including the contests,
magazine, and classes.

Vince may keep some top stars on contract to sell supplements through his WWF
magazine.

This gives the Weiders a strangle hold on pro bodybuilding again. I think I
prefer that than let Vince destroy the sport. Since Weider said that anyone
jumping to the WBF would never work for the IFBB again, I wonder what people
like Strydom, DeMey, etc are going to do in terms of entering pro contests.


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From: evan@fsg.com (Evan L. Marcus [Fusion Systems Group, Ltd.])
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: SummerSlam
Date: 21 Jul 92 12:32:23 GMT
Reply-To: evan@fsg.com

On Jul 20,  9:22pm, John Nelson wrote:
} Subject: SummerSlam
->>According to Herb, here are the matches for SS:
->>> - The WWF has it's SummerSlam PPV scheduled for August 31st (to be
->>>   taped at Wembley Stadium in London, England, on August 29th).
-><matches deleted.>
->>I don't understand a lot of this.
->>I admit that since it's the summer, I am not watching the syndies that
->>much, but these matches don't reflect the current feuds as far as I know.
->
-> The current feuds are being played out across the US at house shows. PPVs
->are for matches never seen before - in theory. They were advertising
->Disasters vs the Bevs on the last Primetime I looked at. <shrug>
->
->>Nothing involving Lex, either,  (Is he out of the hospital yet?)
-> He's on Body Stars with a slightly scuffed forearm. Serious motorcycle
->accident my butt.

Anyone else have any info on the seriousness or lack thereof of Lex's
injuries?

Regarding the SS matches, I thought they use the syndies to generate heat
for them.  But they're just not so far, are they?

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From: jewell@Data-IO.COM (Cal Jewell)
Subject: Re: Who Will Be Rocko and Baklund Sells Out (Was Re: Wrestling TidBits)
Summary: Geez, it was a joke. Get it? A joke.
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:41:10 GMT

In article <Bs2yBD.EJw@acsu.buffalo.edu> v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel) writes:
#>> Scary Thought of The Week: El Gigante as Rocko.

I wrote that a while ago.

It was supposed to be taken with a :-) and not to be taken seriously.

From what I've read this morning, my remark was taken seriously. It
looks like there's a shortage of smileys in Buffalo.  :-)  I'll have my
smiley distributor send a truck load of smileys to Buffalo.

#> 
#>--Don
#
#
#    Actually, I (yet another Buffalo poster myself) heard that Backlund was

Actually, I've seen three posts this morning that took my remark seriously.

#indeed intended to be the human incarnation of the LOD puppet.  Everyone has
#been calling the guy "Howdy Doody" for the last decade and a half anyway, so
#Vince got LOD a "Howdy Doody"-looking puppet and had intended to involve a
#human version of the dummy (i.e Backlund) in a title win for LOD. 

[...]

#Now, there may still be a human version of the
#puppet, but it's pretty clear at this point that it won't be Backlund.  If
#anything, Rocko looks as much like Vince McMahon himself as anybody else I can

You don't think McMahon is setting himself up for a foray into the
ring do you? How about his son?

(Serving instructions: flavor with :-) where necessary)

#think of, although Gigante certainly is a candidate. 

On second thought, I don't think El Gigante would make a good Rocko.
I think Rocko (the dummy) is a better worker than El G. ever was.


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From: mickw@autodesk.com (Mick Washbrook)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WBF folds
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:34:29 GMT
Distribution: rec

In article <1992Jul22.142620.14191@eos.arc.nasa.gov>, shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Richard Barry Shrum) writes:
> 
> I guess Joe Weider just has too tight a hold on the BB market. That, and
> the whole WBF competetion might have been perceived as a "fix" by the
> general public given its association with Professional Rassling.
> Oh, gee; I hope this doesn't mean the tug o' war between the WWF vs
> WBF is going to be called off. ;^{ Surprised Vince (Snap-On hair-do)
> McMahon didn't try to make this a PPV. Hmm...wonder if the rumors of
> Lex rejoining WCW is rooted in the demise of the folding of the WBF?
> No org., no contract. 

Was there ever any doubt that the WBF bodybuilding "contests" were anything
other than a fix? If you followed the whole WBF vs. IFBB farce in "Muscle-
Mag," Bob Kennedy made it pretty clear that the winner of the contest was
picked before the contest was televised. It got to the point when the two
federations were turning each other in for steroid violations. I wonder
whether Weider will take back those bodybuilders who quit to go to the WBF?



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From: oliver@Software.Mitel.COM (Oliver Postlethwaite)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: First Impressions of Herb
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:03:14 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

>I have a tape that has 22 Liger matches on it.  I don't know that I
>would say they are hard to watch consecutively, but you do tend to not
>appreciate them as much.  His matches are much like a fine wine.

I agree that that is a better way to put it. 

>So?  Who cares who looks cooler?  It's how they wrestle that's
>important, at least to me.

You shouldn't have taken me so seriously. 

>OP>Stan Hansen/Bruiser Brody vs. Dory and Terry Funk - Pretty good match but
>  >not as good as was rated. I still don't think Brody's that good.
>
>Argh!
                                                   
Why? It's just my opinion.

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Subject: Re: Iron Mike Sharpe
From: <JW83HISW@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Friday, 24 Jul 1992 16:04:15 EDT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

On Iron Mike Sharpe and victories:I saw Mike beat SD Jones in that small promotion where Tony
Atlas and Vic Steamboat wrestle(International somthing).  I guess
that's 2.  Anybody for three?
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From: bh929@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Palij)
Subject: Re: Building Heat for Summer Slam
Reply-To: bh929@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Palij)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 01:04:47 GMT


In a previous article, chrispy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu () says:

>I was watching Wrestling Superstars today, curious to find out how Vince
>was going to build heat for Summer Slam.  After viewing, however, I found
>myself scratching my head.
> 
> 
>1) Warrior vs. Savage
> 
>As most of you know, they had a face to face interview, with none other than
>Slick Ric coming out to declare his disgust with Tunney's decision.
>Not bad for building heat, but very bad as far as determining who the heel will
>be.  The crowd was big on Warrior with some shouts for Savage.  Look for a
>Savage heel turn.
> 
>Prediction: Savage over Warrior at Summer Slam.  He will bend the rules to
>            keep the belt.  Expect this to last for a while in house shows.
>  [stuff deleted]

While watching this I thought about a possible change in the main event.
How about a temporary teaming of MM and UW against Flair and Perfect?
We could have a double heel turn here:  Macho against Warrior and
Perfect against Flair.  Hey, you never know...

> 
> 
>Christopher Palacios                  chrispy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
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>

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