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From: james.yaklin@cutting.hou.tx.us (James Yaklin) 
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Lotto
Date: 9 Jan 93 01:49:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: james.yaklin@cutting.hou.tx.us (James Yaklin) 

DS>I'm interested to know if anyone has, or knows where to get a list
DS>of all of the winning numbers for the Texas Lottery. I know most
DS>places that sell lotto tickets have the winning numbers for the last
DS>several weeks, but I was hoping to find the numbers already "online"
DS>somewhere. If you have or know of a list like this, please let me
DS>know.

Here they are:

Nov 14, 1992:  13  16  22  29  32  36
Nov 18, 1992:  27  31  39  44  45  47
Nov 21, 1992:  11  21  24  28  31  46
Nov 25, 1992:  14  21  36  39  40  42
Nov 28, 1992:   9  17  21  24  28  50
Dec  2, 1992:   5  17  19  25  26  38
Dec  9, 1992:   4  11  16  31  32  45
Dec 12, 1992:  18  23  25  26  38  42
Dec 16, 1992:  14  23  24  31  38  42
Dec 19, 1992:   9  12  13  32  37  46
Dec 23, 1992:   9  15  21  23  33  37
Dec 26, 1992:   5  17  21  23  26  38
Dec 30, 1992:   3  29  38  39  47  48
Jan  2, 1993:   5  14  19  20  42  45
Jan  6, 1993:   8  14  16  25  26  34
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From: mharriso@digi.lonestar.org (Mark Harrison)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: State Income Tax (was Re: Establishing Texas Residency?)
Keywords: tax
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:51:04 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

In article <8365@lib.tmc.edu> jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
>In article <C0G8nC.CuJ@rice.edu> bro@antigone.cs.rice.edu (Douglas Monk) writes:
>>... and don't you just love the way that the politicos threatened us with
>>a state income tax unless we approved a state lottery, and some people
>>actually *believed* them - and now they are softening us up to sock us
>>with one anyway?
>
>What leads you to this conclusion?

Because the state govt is always saying "Pass X or we have to have
an income tax".  We pass X, then the next year it's the same story,
but with a different X.  Don't you remember paramutuel wagering?
How about when they were talking about school finance reform?

>Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
>jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
-- 
Mark Harrison, mharriso@dsccc.com
Newsgroups: tx.general
From: dlaro@lonestar.utsa.edu (David O. Laro)
Subject: Re: Tormenting Telemarketers (was Re: Caller-ID discussion)
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Distribution: tx
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 03:21:51 GMT

In article <86209@ut-emx.uucp> llama@tramp.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine) writes:
>wow, so clever. and funny. really. tormenting people who are trying to
>make next month's rent in a fairly hellish job always turns me on.
>
>just fyi, people who are particularly annoying to telemarketers have a
>way of showing up with amazing frequency on calling lists. and you
>can't caller-id long-distance calls.
>
>--
>sine | deb
>and you gotta do something to kill those last five minutes before
>you can clock out...

Well, Deb, it's strange you should mention that...

As I read the "scoring rules" I had a similar thought.  These poor folks are
working at/near minimum wage;  they aren't asking for handouts, and they may
be trying to work their way through school or buy a few extra thingys for
little Junior.   I usually tell them politely, very quickly, that I'm not
interested in wasting their or my own time.


course, every now and then, I get a real "smart" one.   Let's see, where were
those rules, again?  :-)

No, it normally pays to treat people like you'd want to be treated, should you
ever find yourself in that situation.  Sounds like you've some experience in
the field, and so have I.

sine/david
and I usually worked those extra five minutes, and another 15 or so...just to
make them pay a little for the privilege of having me around.

Newsgroups: tx.general
From: doug@seas.smu.edu (Doug Davis)
Subject: Re: Caller-ID modem (was Re: repost from comp.dcom.telecom
Organization: SMU - School of Engineering & Applied Science - Dallas
Distribution: tx
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:04:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.044923.7693@rpp386> jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II) writes:
>I thought Allen had died of a heart attack after eating too much of
>your chile.  Do you mean to tell me that he is still alive?


Unfortunatly yes, and at last count he was attempting to reproduce too.
Newsgroups: tx.general
From: gordon@sneaky.lonestar.org (Gordon Burditt)
Subject: Re: Tormenting Telemarketers (was Re: Caller-ID discussion)
Organization: Gordon Burditt
Distribution: tx
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 06:13:20 GMT

Be careful about what you say to telemarketers.  They might have
the last laugh.  Don't order anything unless you mean it, even
if you give a fake address.  You might end up paying for it.

>		Posting their 1-800- number to alt.sex as
>			a free "Phone Sex" line			 50 pts

This sounds like it could get you in trouble for harassment.

>[stupid ?]	Me:	It won't hurt the floor, will it?
>		Them:	Oh, no! We use a [...this usually takes some time!...]
>			and is completely safe.
>[stupid ?]	Me:	Even with my pets?
>		Them:	Oh, yes. The chemicals we use [...]

Here you ask whether the chemicals contain any dolphin meat, and
what color it is, and whether they recycle the dirt removed from
your carpets.

>		Me:	Do you have to pre-treat, since I have pets?
>		Them:	Yes, and we do that with [...]
>[repeat!]	Me:	But the original offer was for $39.95, does that
>			include treating for pets?

Here you negotiate the price down to $1.00, half charged to your draft
card now, and half in a rubber check after the 50-year warranty
expires.  This is OK if you don't actually agree to buy anything
yet, or the price is so low you don't care if you have to pay it.

>[angry???]	Them:	Ahem... Would you like us to come out?
>		Me:	Well, when could you come out?
>		Them:	How about next week?
>		Me:	Hmmm...  Morning or afternoon?
>		Them:	Either would be fine.

You should ask for Sunday at 4am, or spend 5 minutes pretending
to figure your astrological charts, giving a complicated list
of times.

>		Me:	Do you have anything the week after?
>		Them:	Sure, can I put you down for Tuesday?
>
>[Okay, let's try for those last big bonus points:]
>
>		Me:	Well, I don't think it matters, since I have all
>			hardwood floors here!

Be careful here, it sounds like you just agreed to have your hardwood
floors cleaned.  Some companies might be willing to come out and
charge you for it.  And they might ruin your floors, too.

					Gordon L. Burditt
					sneaky.lonestar.org!gordon
Newsgroups: tx.general,austin.general,austin.talk
From: chip@chinacat.unicom.com (Chip Rosenthal)
Subject: Re: Caller-ID modem (was Re: repost from comp.dcom.telecom
Organization: Unicom Systems Development, Austin, TX
Distribution: tx
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 04:05:42 GMT
Followup-To: austin.talk

[followups redirected]

In article <1993Jan5.024908.17284@seas.smu.edu>
	doug@seas.smu.edu (Doug Davis) writes:
>You guys do realize that ANI (Automatic Number Identification) is
>available to almost anyone with an 800 number.  [...]

This is a flawed analogy.

Caller identity is *necessary* with 800 service.  If you are going to
pay for calls received on your 800 number, you better well get an
itemized detail of those charges.

>CLID is putting the power to choose who interrupts your life at
>dinner time where it belongs.  

...for twice the price of an answering machine set in `screen' mode and
at a fraction of the effectiveness.

I'm not arguing one way or another on CLID (it's useless to do so on
Usenet).  I'm merely executing my duties as a deputized member of the
logic police.
-- 
Chip Rosenthal  512-482-8260 | Ergonomic (adj) - Designed to ensure
Unicom Systems Development   | maximum discomfort in left-handed people.
<chip@chinacat.Unicom.COM>   |
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From: llama@tramp.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: tx.general,austin.general
Subject: Re: Tormenting Telemarketers (was Re: Caller-ID discussion)
Date: 6 Jan 93 04:46:12 GMT
Followup-To: tx.general
Distribution: tx
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

wow, so clever. and funny. really. tormenting people who are trying to
make next month's rent in a fairly hellish job always turns me on.

just fyi, people who are particularly annoying to telemarketers have a
way of showing up with amazing frequency on calling lists. and you
can't caller-id long-distance calls.

--
sine | deb
and you gotta do something to kill those last five minutes before 
you can clock out...
Newsgroups: tx.general
From: alan@auntbea.austin.ibm.com (Alan R. Weiss)
Subject: Re: State Income Tax
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:55:55 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: (speaking only for myself from Austin, Texas)

In article <1993Jan12.141207.29526@rpp386> jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II) writes:
>In article <ZOmhs*ly1@caleb.UUCP> jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:
>>Would YOU really want your kids to go to DC public schools?  Slick Willie is
>>just as hypocritical on most of his positions - however, at least THIS one
>>he has a valid reason to do so.
>
>If I was the President of the United States?  I'd INSIST that my daughter
>go to public school.  What message is he sending?  "My daughter is better
>than all of those poor hapless souls that are forced to go to public
>schools."

John's quite correct.  It was outrageous that Clinton considers that
Chelsea would not receive an adequate education in public schools.

Fortunately, I'd pit Purple Sage (Round Rock ISD) against Chelsea's
new fancy Quaker school any day of the week.

Perhaps Clinton was worried about security?  But then again, aren't we all?


>The public school system is broken, badly.  The solution is not to have
>a two class system when the rich and privileged get one education and
>the poor get another.  This is why I support a voucher system - let the
>poor black kids in DC that are STUCK in public schools have a chance at
>the same education that one rich white guy's daughter is going to get.
>-- 
>John F. Haugh II                  [ PGP 2.1 ] !'s: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh
>Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151           [ DoF #17 ]        @'s: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org
>"If we make SS need based, can we change the name to: Failing Incompetents
>    Compensation Allotment?"  -- Dr. Michael Reed

I too support vouchers.  I just got my bill for RRISD - and its a
whopper.  While I might bitch and moan about paying it (and hey,
what gives RRISD the right to tax my leased CAR, fer crissake?!),
at least my kid's school is good (with an award winning Principal,
Terri Hunt, as well :-)  But if I could have more CHOICE, the PRICE
might drop and education might be even BETTER.  And hell yes, inner-city
black majority private schools are viable - Marva Collins in Chicago
PROVED that.


STATE INCOME TAX?  This will NOT solve the tax burden problem,
it will NOT result in better education for poorer districts (but
WILL result in increased spending, which has NO correlation to
education success).  And will property taxes drop?  NOT A CHANCE!

The ONLY answer is increased competition that forces the education
bureaucrats BACK into classrooms and radically CUTS waste and
mismanagement in school districts.

soap_box = FALSE;

-- 
   _  Alan R. Weiss   IBM AWS Austin-AIX Kernel   11501 Burnet Rd, Bld 905
 _| ~-. alan%auntbea.austin.ibm.com@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com | Austin, TX 78758
 \, *_} auntbea.austin.ibm.com!alan@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com | 512-838-8281
   \(   DISCLAIMER:  Working at, not speaking for, IBM  | alan@auntbea
From: jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: State Income Tax
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:17:49 GMT
 <C0G8nC.CuJ@rice.edu> <1993Jan7.144352.9851@digi.lonestar.org>
Distribution: tx
Organization: is sometimes desirable

In article <1993Jan7.144352.9851@digi.lonestar.org>, Mark Harrison writes:

> (still in a foul mood after hearing about Chelsea's school plans)

Would YOU really want your kids to go to DC public schools?  Slick Willie is
just as hypocritical on most of his positions - however, at least THIS one
he has a valid reason to do so.


                                                Jim Pritchett


UUCP:  rwsys.lonestar.org!caleb!jdp
 or    utacfd.uta.edu!rwsys!caleb!jdp
Newsgroups: tx.general
From: barnett@convex.com (Paul Barnett)
Subject: Re: Tormenting Telemarketers (was Re: Caller-ID discussion)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:38:10 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1993Jan06.155008.13392@iqsc.COM> rex@iqsc.COM (Rex Black) writes:

>In my book, the real words of wisdom regarding phone salespeople are:  
>Never forget that you pay for the phone, and it is there for your 
>convenience, not the caller's.

This is not a sales pitch:  just a testimonial from a satisfied customer.

There is a guy/company in Illinois called "Private Citizen, Inc.", who
compiles a list of people who hate telemarketing calls.  It costs
$20.00, plus $5.00 for each additional number you want to "protect".

He sends out two lists every three months or so to a fairly large list
of telemarketers.  One list is just phone numbers (his subscribers),
with no other identification.  The other is the associated names and
addresses, with no phone numbers.  The second list is apparently for
legal purposes: see explanation below.

You can add your favorite annoyances to his list of telemarketers
(mine are the Dallas Morning News and the SMU Alumni Association).

The teeth in this arrangement is that he is serving notice to the
people that receive his lists that you accept telemarketing calls, FOR
A PRICE... $100.  The act of placing a telemarketing call to you
constitutes acceptance of the terms of the "contract".  You also agree
to provide a "verification" service: if they call you to confirm that
you are on the list, you make $100.  The name/address list is the
secondary verification, and upon request Private Citizen will provide
copies of the contract that you sign (naming them as your
representative) for inspection.

If you actually receive a call, and are able to identify the caller,
you simply notify Private Citizen, and if he has sent a list to them,
they get a bill (and you get the money).  I know this all sounds
crazy, but this guy has actually taken people to court and won.

Since I signed up, I have received exactly ONE telemarketing call, in
nearly three months.  Once again, it was the Dallas Morning News, but
I hadn't broken my habit of saying "I'm not interested", so I hung up
and maybe missed out on the money.  I'm waiting for another chance!

If you are interested, just call 1-800-CUT-JUNK.
--
Paul Barnett
MPP OS Development     (214)-497-4846
Convex Computer Corp.  Richardson, TX
Newsgroups: tx.general
From: hackney@moxie.hou.tx.us (Greg Hackney)
Subject: Re: Lotto - bogus numbers
Organization: Home
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:36:01 GMT

Drew Stephens wrote:
> I'm interested to know if anyone has, or knows where to get a list
> of all of the winning numbers for the Texas Lottery.

James Yaklin replied:
> Here they are:

System Leprechaun also replied with a list:
> Something like this, perhaps???
> (Available from the fileserver at pro-lep.cts.com)

At least 1 of you guy's lists is BOGUS. Look at a diff between
the two files:

13 16 22 29 32 38
13 16 22 29 32 36
               ^
11 21 24 28 31 48
11 21 24 28 31 46
               ^
7 23 24 35 36 45
 (omitted on one)

9 12 13 32 37 46
9 12 13 32 37 48
              ^
3 29 38 39 47 47
3 29 38 39 47 48
              ^
--
Greg Hackney
hackney@moxie.hou.tx.us

Newsgroups: tx.general
From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Caller-ID modem (was Re: repost from comp.dcom.telecom
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Distribution: tx
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:10:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.084254.16976@montagar.com> davidc@montagar.com (David L. Cathey) writes:
>	Then how about this for "Logic Police":  Just because business have
>ANI for 800/900 service, does that require we make it available for all
>businesses to have?

Because businesses can buy the ability to make up call lists, why shouldn't
private individuals have the same ability?
-- 
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Newsgroups: tx.general
From: stevep@twisto.compaq.com (Steve Pearlmutter)
Subject: Re: Establishing Texas Residency?
Organization: Compaq Computer Corporation, Houston, TX.
	<1992Dec31.230624.1026@cactus.org>
Distribution: tx
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:46:59 GMT

>>>>> On Thu, 31 Dec 1992 23:06:24 GMT, mhk@cactus.org (M. H. Khan) said:

> [...]
> residency in Texas, and moreover that any income attributable
> to business or work in another state would remain taxable by
> that state regardless of the status of Texas residency.  If

This is generally true.  However, some (if not most) states have
different methods of figuring state income tax for residents and
non-residents.  Being a Texas resident could actually mean lower taxes
on the income from another state.  Usually, the other state's rules
(i.e., the one where the income originates) will determine whether or
not you are a resident of that state.

--
Steve Pearlmutter                        | Nothing I say in any way  
stevep@twisto.compaq.com                 | represents the opinions of
Compaq Computer Corporation, Houston, TX | my employers.  Really.
"Good taste is timeless... and a good time is usually tasteless."

Newsgroups: tx.general
From: gordon@sneaky.lonestar.org (Gordon Burditt)
Subject: Re: Caller-ID discussion
Organization: Gordon Burditt
Distribution: tx
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 06:40:41 GMT

>	There is a charge for having Call Trace and each time you use it,
>	something like $2.50 and $5.00-$8.00 respectively. I agree though,

This varies by area.  I think it's downright stupid to have to order
Call Trace in advance.  Everyone should have it, free of monthly
charges.  A per-use charge is reasonable to prevent, for example, 
someone using it every time a telemarketer calls, and it does cost 
some paperwork.  (I also think the caller should pay the charges if
he's convicted of a crime related to the calls, but you can't do that
with phone company tariffs alone.)

>	that it is good for nuisance calls, yet they only turn them over to
>	the Police IF requested, not automatically, and if there are two
>	occurances from the same number.

I hope the police can get the info for ONE call if they insist loud
enough.  Examples of such calls might be kidnap ransom demands, bomb
threats, and death threats the police take seriously (say, due to 
previous attempts).  These are well beyond the "harassing call" category.  
Operators and secretaries should be told to use Call Trace when 
appropriate, especially those working in places like schools and airports, 
which are likely to receive bomb threats.

					Gordon L. Burditt
					sneaky.lonestar.org!gordon
Newsgroups: tx.general
From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Caller-ID modem (was Re: repost from comp.dcom.telecom
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Distribution: tx
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 04:51:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.120933.16980@montagar.com> davidc@montagar.com (David L. Cathey) writes:
>	800 numbers business are paying the bill for your convenience,

And theirs.

>I don't think I've
>*ever* been bothered by someone from a business from when I called their 800
>number.

I *know* I have.

>	Nothing prevents you from getting a 800/900 number if you find
>CLID that important.

Why should I pay for free calls when all I want is the CLID feature? I
think EVERYTHING the phone company sells should be unbundled like that,
so long as there's technical justification (as opposed to the tone dial
scam).

>	Currently, I have control over my phone number, which I pay for the
>privilege of having.  I ought to be able to control who I hand it out to.

I agree. And I ought to be able to control whether you can call me if you
won't tell me who you are.

>The default ought to be the number stays private *UNLESS* I agree first.

If you want that, you should have that, but if SWB doesn't offer that
service you should still be able to program your phone to automatically
dial *whatever first.
-- 
Peter da Silva, 77272-0711 USA                  `-_-'
Zure otsoa besarkatu al duzu gaur?               'U`
Serveuse, ce plat bouge encore!
From: davidc@montagar.com (David L. Cathey)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: Caller-ID modem (was Re: repost from comp.dcom.telecom
Date: 6 Jan 93 08:42:53 CDT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Montagar Software Concepts, Plano TX

In article <TGRMUKM@taronga.com>, peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
> Logic police, indeed. Part of what you're PAYING for with an 800 number is
> that list of sales contacts, whether it's explicit or not.

	Then how about this for "Logic Police":  Just because business have
ANI for 800/900 service, does that require we make it available for all
businesses to have?  The the initial argument of "well, 800 numbers got your
number, anyway", is pretty meaningless.

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David L. Cathey		                |INET: davidc@montagar.com
Montagar Software Concepts              |UUCP: ...!montagar!davidc
P. O. Box 260772, Plano TX  75026-0772  |Fone: (214)-618-2117
Newsgroups: tx.general
From: dan@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu (Daniel Shelton)
Subject: 1983 Overseas High School Reunion
Reply-To: dan@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu (Daniel Shelton)
Organization: Univ of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 05:47:48 GMT

Hello All,

	If you graduated, or know someone who graduated, from an American high school overseas in 1983, please get in contact with me.   
 
There is a massive multi-school reunion in Dallas in August and I can give you the information.

dan@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu
(210) 691-5594

Later,

Daniel Shelton
Newsgroups: tx.general
From: jfh@rpp386 (John F. Haugh II)
Subject: Re: Caller-ID modem (was Re: repost from comp.dcom.telecom
Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II)
Organization: Los Tejanos SCUBA Club and Beer Joint, Austin, Tejas
Distribution: tx
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:20:10 GMT

In article <8379@lib.tmc.edu> jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
>       ^^^^^-- Geez, John, where are you from?? It's _chili_, dammit.

Chili is what gringos eat.  Chile is what the rest of us eat.

>Gack. This could be dangerous.
>I was wondering where he'd gotten off to...

Apparently he hasn't gotten off to someone other than his wife often
enough ...
-- 
John F. Haugh II                  [ PGP 2.1 ] !'s: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh
Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151           [ DoF #17 ]        @'s: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org
"If we make SS need based, can we change the name to: Failing Incompetents
    Compensation Allotment?"  -- Dr. Michael Reed