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From: alto@pegasus.com (Andrea Ostensoe)
Subject: Re: On Santa Claus
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 19:26:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.195347.1@phcu.helsinki.fi> jurasanen@phcu.helsinki.fi writes:
>Date: 11.12. 1992 AD
>
>"...The connections between the Devil and Santa Claus (Sinter Claes, Saint
>Nicholas) are pronounced. In addition to his association with the north and
>reindeer, the Devil can wear red fur; he is covered with red soot and goes down
>chimneys in the guise of Black Jack or the Black Man; he carries a large sack
>into which he pops sins or sinners (including naughty children); he carries a
>stick or cane to trash the guilty (the origin of the candy cane); he flies
>through the air with the help of animals; food and wine are left out for him as
>a bribe. The Devil's nickname (!) of Old Nick derives directly from St.
>Nicholas. St. Nicholas was often associated with fertility cults, hence with
>fruit, nuts, and fruitcake, which are charasteristic of his gifts...."
>
>
>Cease purpose and die.
>
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>/ Hope is the beginning of unhappiness /  
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>

I once thought that I had noticed these connections and that no one else..had..
I was very young..and foolish and egocentric ....so..like a fool I posted my
ideas once..purely in jest..and someone replied that there was a phamphlet
circulated by christians on the subject..(blush..blush)..i was so very
chagrined..

The whole St. Nick thing is very odd..and interesting to study if you
like that sort of thing

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From: n029gg@tamuts.tamu.edu (Adam Roach)
Newsgroups: alt.geek,alt.religion.kibology,alt.fan.matt.welsh
Subject: Re: came the dawn
Date: 11 Dec 1992 18:43:46 GMT
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Keywords: eat more mousse

In article <1g9fubINNdgo@girtab.usc.edu> echeverr@scf.usc.edu (5150) writes:
}In article <OSA.92Dec10174415@wilbur.unh.edu> osa@wilbur.unh.edu (Bart Simps.. er.. Oktay Ahiska) writes:
}>NOT QUITE, DUDETTE!!!11 HE DIDN"T BUY NO ROBOT!!!@!@! BUT BREAK IT
}>DID> IT JUSR WASN":T A ROBOTTTTt
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}IT WUS NOT AN ELCETRIK MIJUT ITHR.  I DONT NO WUT AN LEKTRIC MIDJET IS
}ANIWEIS.
}
}STANIZLAV
}(SUN WE WIL HAVE AN SPELIN CHEKER LONG LIBE TEH REVOLOOSHEN)

Hey! I need an explanation for the 13 ton jello order to your sdjk;fllllllhg
THER IZ NO PROBLUM.  THER WUZ NO JELO. I AM NOT A MIJUT EETHER.

THE BIIG SHIP IZ ABOWT REDY. MEET IN JERZY AT SUNRIZ.

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From: jonathan@vinnie.cuc.ab.ca (Jonathan Levine)
Newsgroups: alt.exotic-music
Subject: test post
Date: 17 Dec 92 06:16:04 GMT

please pardon this brief intrusion.

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From: jpmakela@klaava.Helsinki.FI (J Pekka Makela)
Subject: Re: Diamanda Galas
Organization: University of Helsinki
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 16:20:34 GMT

Arlen Speights (speights@iear.arts.rpi.edu) wrote:
> 
> Her other work is pretty different: for the past few years she's
> been involved in AIDS epidemic theory, as you've probably read; her
> music is Really dark, kind of nightmarish, consisting primarily of
> her incredible voice and some very background synthesizers.  A lot
> of screeching, wheezing, soaring, and thundering visions of christian
> Hell, with a sophisticated formal organization.  Not for the meek, but
> I think it's really great.


	For what I've heard her music (mainly the "You Must Be Certain
	of the Devil" album), it would be *just* perfect for a movie
	based on a Edgar Allan Poe story, like "The Fall of the House
	of Usher" or especially "The Masque of the Red Death" (The name
	of her trilogy of AIDS-related albums, BTW). Her music has a 
	sense of decadence and unrealness. As far as I know, she
	has been schooled as an opera singer. 

	I like her music a lot, but it's not for every state of my mind.
> 
> Arlen
> -- 
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> "Even now, we scarcely feel our hearts beat before they break in protest"
>                                                          -Stanley Diamond
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From: lanih@herald.Berkeley.EDU (J. Lani Herrmann)
Newsgroups: alt.exotic-music
Subject: Re: Ever hear of fiddler Cleofes Ortiz?
Date: 20 Dec 1992 22:41:15 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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Keywords: Cleofes fiddle

Nearly everything I know about Cleofes Ortiz:
	1. He has at least twice been a staff member at the Festival of
American Fiddle Tunes, Port Townsend (near Seattle), WA.
	2. He has also been featured at the Wildflower Festival, Las
Vegas, NM (NOT NE), which is very near his home.
	3. Longtime folkie Jeannie McLerie and her husband Ken Keppeler
have been working with Cleofes for a long time now, learning his 
repertoire, playing along with him (and acting as booking agents for
him), and generally carrying out a one- (or, more accurately, three-)
(or, even more accurately, multi-) person revival of interest, not only
in Cleofes and his music but his community.  And it's heartening to me,
at least, that their efforts are eliciting a response from the community.
On many levels.  For instance, at the Wildflower Festival the year past
the number of entrants in the hispanic-style (I forget the precise
appellation) contest was something over a dozen. Of course Cleofes
& co. do a special performance as part of the program. 
	Jeannie and Ken (et al) are the band Bayou Seco, and their
address is Box 4296, Albuquerque, NM 87196. I think they are also
Ubik records -- which, last I heard, is producing at least one more
tape, of Toni Apodaca, a fiery singer-songwriter, accordion (?and
guitar?) player of slightly more recent vintage than Cleo. And I hesitate
to tell you that another Cleo tape is in the works, because my rememberer
is in disorder; Jeannie and Ken would know.  -- Lani
 


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From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Diamanda Galas
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:50:42 GMT

I know someone who she went to school with her at UC San Deigo, where I think
she was studying for a masters. Up to the mid-early 80's she worked with RichardZvonar, who I think was also her lover, and he did live processing of her
voice with multiple delays and perhaps other processing equipement.
 
Her brother died of AIDS. I think he was big in the Loas Angeles theater
community. Because of his death she's focused much of her work towards
AIDS and I think the Plague Mass has something to do with this.
I think Litanies of Satan is using text of a poem by Baudelaire from his
book _The Flowers Of Evil_. Classic french literature. Some of her more
recent works are using text from the bible. I don't think I could try to
explain what she's doing or the effect it has on me. I have to be in a certain
kind of mood to be able to listen to her voice. 
 
Here's a list of releases:
 
 GALAS, DIAMANDA
 THE LITANIES OF SATAN
 1981       UK        MUTE/RESTLESS             71419-1 (RI 89)
 
 GALAS, DIAMANDA
 FAUST. EROS. TOD. (bootleg?) 
 1982 (?)   FR (?)    DG                        1/2
 
 GALAS, DIAMANDA
 SAINT OF THE PIT
 1986       UK        MUTE                      STUMM 33
 
 GALAS, DIAMANDA
 THE DIVINE PUNISHMENT
 1986       UK        MUTE                      STUMM 27
 
 GALAS, DIAMANDA
 (12-INCH) DOUBLE-BARREL PRAYER / MALEDICTION
 1988       UK        MUTE                      12 MUTE 75
 
 GALAS, DIAMANDA
 YOU MUST BE CERTAIN OF THE DEVIL
 1988       UK        MUTE                      STUMM 46
 
 LAST OF ENGLAND
 (SOUNDTRACK WITH SIMON TURNER, DIAMANDA GALAS, MAYO THOMPSON, ETC.)
 1987       UK        MUTE/IONIC                IONIC 1
 
  SMACK MY CRACK
 (COMPILATION WITH WILLIAM S. BURROUGHS, DIAMANDA GALAS, ETC.)
 1987       US        GIORNO POETRY SERIES      GPS 038

 GALAS, DIAMANDA
 THE PLAGUE MASS
 199?       US
 
 GALAS, DIAMANDA
 THE SINGER
 1992       US   ?????

She also appears on some recordings by Fred Frith and Henry Kaiser, and on 
John Zorn's The Big Gundown.

  - Malcolm 
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From: hsg@cs.bham.ac.uk (howard s goodman)
Newsgroups: alt.exotic-music,rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Enrique Juncosa, Kindred Spirits
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:45:51 GMT
Followup-To: alt.exotic-music
Organization: University of Birmingham, England

Do the names Enrique Juncosa or Kindred Spirits mean anything to anyone?

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From: speights@iear.arts.rpi.edu (Arlen Speights)
Subject: Re: Diamanda Galas
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 16:08:11 GMT

mystic@weird.miami.fl.us (Victor Marrero) writes:

>Can anyone give me a brief discription of her albums.
>From the article I take it that 'The Singer' is her basically with a piano.
>What I am interested to know what the other albums are like.

'The Singer' is a rather unique album among her releases--it's a
collection of dark and moody spirituals.  She sings in a very
aggressive, often masculine, often angry bluesy singing style.

Her other work is pretty different: for the past few years she's
been involved in AIDS epidemic theory, as you've probably read; her
music is Really dark, kind of nightmarish, consisting primarily of
her incredible voice and some very background synthesizers.  A lot
of screeching, wheezing, soaring, and thundering visions of christian
Hell, with a sophisticated formal organization.  Not for the meek, but
I think it's really great.

Arlen
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From: hsg@cs.bham.ac.uk (howard s goodman)
Newsgroups: alt.exotic-music
Subject: Re: Diamanda Galas
Date: 16 Dec 92 09:49:54 GMT
Organization: University of Birmingham, England

Further to article <malcolm.724366242@wrs.com> from malcolm@wrs.com
(Malcolm Humes), I would just like to add that _Plague_Mass_ (1991) and
_The_Singer_ (1992) are both available on Mute in the UK.  (I don't have
their catalogue numbers to hand.)  _Plague_Mass_ is a full-length live CD
containing mostly extended versions of tracks from the
_Masque_of_the_Red_Death_ trilogy.  It makes for _extremely_ heavy listening.
As for the newest release, _The_Singer_, it's just solo voice and piano
versions of blues and gospel songs.  It's pretty harrowing stuff -- the
London concert was billed `Blues from Hell' -- but in my opinion it's not
a patch on the earlier, electronic works.

Anyway, the main point of this posting is to say that there is also a record
simply entitled _Diamanda_Galas_, which came out (I think) in 1984, on Y
Records.  I have never seen it, and have no idea as to whether or not it has
been released on CD.  Since _The_Litanies_of_Satan_ was re-issued by Mute's
Intravenal Sound Operations sub-label, I half expect _Diamanda_Galas_ to
appear in similar fashion ... but there's no sign of it.  Does anyone know
whether it's still available, either on CD or vinyl?

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From: mystic@weird.miami.fl.us (Victor Marrero)
Newsgroups: alt.exotic-music
Subject: Diamanda Galas
Date: 11 Dec 92 03:04:25 EDT
Organization: Weird BBS [Amiga] (305)553-3207 S. Miami, FL USA

        
A while back I read an article on Diamanda Galas in Propaganda magazine, this
month I recieve from my wife a Mondo 2000 and low and behold there she is
again.
        
I have had the Dracula soundtrack ever since the movie was released and didn't
even know that Diamandas voice was used in parts of it. This motivated me
more to go out and buy her. 
        
I guess I like moody music, so what. (Cocteau Twins, DCD, Mortal Coil, Les
Mystere Borgues, etc...)
        
Can anyone give me a brief discription of her albums.
        
From the article I take it that 'The Singer' is her basically with a piano.
What I am interested to know what the other albums are like.
        
Gratis More
Cyber Fetish
aka
Mystic Magic
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From: millia@athena.cs.uga.edu (David W. Millians)
Subject: Residents/Eskimo Throat-Singing
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:36:52 GMT

In article <Bz389v.BH0@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> stevem@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Steve McGowan (RA)) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.005114.15406@news.unomaha.edu> jhoracek@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jason Horacek) writes:
>>
>>     Hi!   I'm looking for a recording of Eskimo throat-singing.   This
>
>	You could listen to a copy of The Residents' "Eskimo" album.
>	It took 6 years to make, was released in 1979, and features
>	many 'authentic' Eskimo instruments. It's a very atmospheric
>	album, with each track supplied with it's own story listing 
>	which makes up a complete story (ie - that ol' concept album).
>	Just how authentic the vocals and instruments are is another
>	question. What is true, IMHO, is that it's a classic album,
>	especially the track titled 'The Angry Angakok' about how the
>	tribe begin to doubt the power of Eskimo 'witch doctor'. He then
>	uses his powers to invoke a whale from the ocean, which then
>	carries off the leading Eskimo rebel.


Be sure to listen for those classic Eskimo dialect lines,
"Wheee Whannnt Ko Kaa Ko Laa."

But seriously, "Eskimo" is built entirely around commercial slogans and
jingles. No Inuit dialect, melodies, or instruments at all.. This does
not however detract from its brilliance, says he with all 8 different
versions of the album. 

Interested Residents fans e-mail me for fan club and e-mail list info..
-- 
David W. Millians, millia@athena.cs.uga.edu  
Geekizit of the 1996 Olympics.-
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From: lm011@aix370.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (Alexander Tuchacek)
Subject: Re: VRmusic 
Keywords: send sounds
Reply-To: lm011@aix370.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (Alexander Tuchacek)
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne, F. R. Germany
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 15:27:26 GMT



Call for international participation in new art/science project.
KNOWBOTIC RESEARCH
Simulation Room -Mosaic of Mobile Sound Data
We are a group of artists and scientists at the Academy of Media
Arts Cologne,  and will be showing a VR installation in February at
the MEDIALE93 - Festival for Media Arts and Media Future - in
Hamburg, Germany. The installation, housed in the freight ship Cap
San Diego in Hamburg - harbour, has three main areas.
Section one is a sophisticated, walk - in data - base  utilising a
collection of sound samples from around the world, which will be
used to produce a virtual 'sound room'.  The sound data will
correspond to the second section,  a physical room, where visitors
will be able to navigate through the space with the aid of a mobile
ultrasonic sensor and an artificial eye display and activate the data 
to a realtime-concert.
The action of the visitors, within  this 'virtual organism,' will be
displayedon a video screen shown in a control room area (the third
area).
We welcome your participation for the international sound - data -
base: To participate in this international project we need from you a
6 second long sound sample, a cultural statement, reflecting
your personal attitude towards the "world". Please send this via
email or ftp. (aiff, wave, next formats)
All participants and institutions will be credited in a publicly
displayed database during the exhibition.
For more information by email from: kr+cf@khm.uni-koeln.de
Thank you for your support - KNOWBOTIC RESEARCH
From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Subject: Re: Hard Boiled
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: 17 Dec 92 07:22:59 GMT

upham@cs.ubc.ca (Derek Upham) writes:
 >scores of street gangs---Triads---

Just a nitpick, but "Triads" does not equate to "street gangs" -- triads
are organised (very), street gangs aren't.  That's a pretty superficial
distinction, and even that can be blurred sometimes, but it's important
(in HB, as well).

 >Uncounted dead bodies.  No breasts.  Pistol fu.  Machine gun fu.
 >Shotgun fu.  Grenade fu.  Urination fu.  Hospital massacres.
 >Gratuitous bird cages and origami cranes.  Drive-in academy award
 >nominations for Chow Yun Fat as Tequila, for rappelling into a
 >warehouse full of armed men

Woo can direct gunfights like nobody else can -- in this particular
scene, one of the raiding crims bursts in with a motorbike, slides it
along the ground (using it to shield himself from bullets), all the while
blazing away with a machine pistol.  This kind of thing happens almost
constantly HB (and Woo films in general).  The result is so mind-blowing that
it tends to make the non-violent parts of the film seem almost like a
nuisance.  (IMHO.)

This is a good review.  I hope everyone read it. :-)  As for the derisive
remark, you make HB sound like a "kickass" film, which it isn't.  If you
are even slightly upset by seeing innocent people slaughtered, you really
DON'T want to see this film.  (But it is a great film.)
 

--
 Iain Sinclair    axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
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From: jtisdel@digi.lonestar.org (J. Michael Tisdel)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.music.classical
Subject: Re: Excalibur
Keywords: Classical Music
Date: 11 Dec 92 15:17:01 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

In article <kkelly.1.0@TC1.ccs.ryerson.ca> kkelly@TC1.ccs.ryerson.ca (Kevin Kelly) writes:
>In article <1992Dec8.203120.10073@cis.ohio-state.edu> lianez@kingkong.cis.ohio-state.edu (Michael Lianez) writes:
>>From: lianez@kingkong.cis.ohio-state.edu (Michael Lianez)
>>Subject: Re: Excalibur
>>Keywords: Classical Music
>>Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1992 20:31:20 GMT
>>In article <1992Dec8.144924.8053@spider.co.uk> georget@spider.co.uk (George Taylor) writes:
>>>Does anyone know from which classical piece the music for John Boardman's(sp?)
>>>"Excalibur" came from? It is possible that more than one classical piece was
>>>used. 
>>>The piece I'm interested in was played on the radio a few weeks ago and they
>>>mentioned it was a "requiem" for somebody, if thats any help.
>>>Does anyone know who the original composer was and the name of this piece?
>>>
>>>E-Mail replies to : georget@spider.co.uk.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>George
>>>
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>>
>>
>>Is this the song that wsa played when Arthur and his knights rode out to battle
>>with Mordred at the end of the movie?
>>
>>-Michael
>If I remember correctly there are two songs. One is from Carmina Burana and 
>is called O Fortuna. The second one is Wagner but I am not sure of the 
>title. The second one may be the one you are refering to at the end. It's 
>been a while since I saw the movie.

The first piece was indeed from Carl Orff's "Carmina Burana".  It is in
the first section, "O Fortuna".  The second piece is from Wagner's
"Gotterdamerung", called "Seigfried's Death March".


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