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From: gls@windmill.att.com (I am not Harry Palmer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: not big enough
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:20:53 GMT
Organization: Save the Dodoes Foundation

In <Jul.29.14.51.15.1992.22758@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, cje@gandalf writes:
> 
> >Color me lost, but, I thought that according to the maps, et al in the DC 
> >Heros game, Gotham was actually Rhode Island.
> 
> You mean Providence, Rhode Island, no?  Gotham's not big enough to be an
> entire state.

Neither is Rhode Island.

-:-
	Captain Buffalo: "You see, Tommy ... When Mudman suffered a freak
	  laboratory accident, something happened to his mind as well."
	Tommy: "You mean, it turned into mud!" 
	Captain Buffalo: "In technical language, that's correct."
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From: wtn1@ra.msstate.edu (Todd Newkirk)
Subject: Booster Gold
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:01:52 GMT

Could anyone tell me what Booster's powers are?
He seems to be pretty much useless.
I don't keep up with him, so I don't know.
Thanks!

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From: jrp3935@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jonny Ray Purvis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: MISC: CBG Awards results
Date: 28 Jul 1992 20:09:45 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station

I'll start posting the awards today, hopefully finishing by bedtime, but no
guarantees.  I plan to post only the top 10 of each list.

Please note that I *will* *not* save these, so do not ask for copies later.

Favorite Comic Book

282 X-Men
204 Sandman
77 Uncanny X-Men
59 Incredible Hulk
50 X-Force
48 New Titans
42 Amazing Spider-Man
41 Ghost Rider
35 Legion of Super Heroes
32 Spider Man


Favorite Editor

228 Bob Harras
106 Tom DeFalco
104 Karen Berger
99 Denny O'Neil
84 Mike Carlin
64 Bobby Chase
63 Jim Shooter
49 Jonathan Peterson
48 Danny Fingeroth
28 Kevin Dooley
28 Jim Salicrup


Favorite Character

121 Spider Man
118 Wolverine
106 Batman
73 Gambit
53 Death
50 Sandman
48 Rogue
42 Superman
39 Lobo
38 Hulk

Favorite Comic Book Story

69 Season of Mist : Sandman 21-28
46 Rubicon Saga : X-Men 1-3
46 Titan's Hunt : The New Titans 71-84
39 Dangerous Habits : Hellblazer 41-46
27 Weapon X : Marvel Comics Presents 72-84
20 X-Tinction Agenda 
18 Three Septembers and a January : Sandman 31
17 Steel Nation : Magnus Robat Fighter 1-4
14 Muir Island Saga : Uncanny X-Men
14 Perceptions : Spider Man 8-12

Jon Purvis
jrp3935@tamsun.tamu.edu
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From: ultron@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Andrew H Krieg)
Subject: DC screws up Doom Patrol TP
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 02:19:16 GMT

I'm pissed.  I just finished reading the Doom Patrol synopsis report for the
issues covered by the trade paperback, and I have learned that the stories
were edited.  All foreshadowing for the Brotherhood of Dada story has been
removed.  Why the hell did they have to do that?  I'm sure they'll get around
to reprinting those issues, so why snip out a couple pages?  The Animal Man
and Sandman TPs seemed to be intact, so why pick on Doom Patrol?  I hope the
Hellblazer TP isn't screwed up too.  The Doom Patrol TP is one of the
smallest I have seen, and had no reason for editing.  What kind of asinie
corporate decision was this??

Here is the page count for the stories in the TP.  Could someone with the
originals tell me how many pages from each issue were removed? 

19 - 22
20 - 22
21 - 24
22 - 23
23 - 22
24 - 23
25 - 23

I plan on protesting quite louding to DC and urge others in the same boat as
me to do so also.  Anyone know the proper person at DC I should spew my venom
at?
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From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: LSH #33
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:11:47 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.085627.1891@wkuvx1.bitnet> charyma@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>> 	Except that if this is the original Lightning Lad's personality,
>> how is it that he has Proty/Garth's memories from between the "resurr-
>> ection" and the Universo story? Up till now I was putting down the
>> inconsistencies to "comic book science", but this makes my brain hurt.
>This was explained to me by Mary Bierbaum at Chicago.  The memories were
>given to the SW6 batch in a separate process from the cloning.  The concept
>is probably similar to Larry Niven's  _World Out of Time_.

Except this still doesn't work!  Why did he get Lightning Lad's personality?
OK, you explained away why he has Proty's memories.  (Using an explanation the
consequences of which will be completely ignored, too.)  So why does he still
have Lightning Lad's personality?

"What do you mean pigs can't fly.  Of course pigs can fly."
"But pigs don't even have wings."
"Oh, OK.  We strapped wings to our pigs.  Now that we fixed your only
    objection, you can...  what do you mean you still don't believe it?"
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From: hutch@hutch (Stephen Hutchison)
Subject: Re: Metropolis/Gotham/NYC (was Re: New Titans #89)
Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 20:22:09 GMT

In article <Jul.29.14.51.15.1992.22758@gandalf.rutgers.edu> cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Cthulhu's Jersey Epopt) writes:
+caw@gtech.com (Christopher A. White) writes:
+
+>Color me lost, but, I thought that according to the maps, et al in the DC 
+>Heros game, Gotham was actually Rhode Island.
+
+You mean Providence, Rhode Island, no?  Gotham's not big enough to be an entire
+state.

Neither is Rhode Island.
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From: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Subject: SANDMAN: Issue 24 Script
Reply-To: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 12:01:09 GMT


Can someone send me the script for Sandman 24 that appeared here a month
or so ago?  I accidentally deleted it...

If anyone else wants it, please EMAIL me instead of replying on the net
and I'll send it...


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From: albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths, 6 years later
Date: 24 Jul 1992 15:54:03 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx

In article <13547@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> sf034281@owl.cellb.bcm.tmc.edu (Shurron M. Farmer) writes:
>A few questions:
>1. Is the series History of the DC Universe (By Marv Wolfman and George Perez) 
>   still valid?

	Parts of it are, parts aren't. Of the top of my head, the bits about
Hawkman and Captain Atom need to be changed.  For the most part, it's okay.

>2. In JLE #37 (I think), Batman mentioned to Sue Dibny that he doesn't do teams.
>   Does this mean that the Outsiders were never formed in the post-Crisis
>   universe? 

	Nope, it means that in Bats' opinion, the Outsiders was a mistake.

>3. Was Batman one of the original founders of the original JLA?

	Nope, the founders were: Green (Hal Jordan) Lantern, Flash (Barry Allen)
Black Canary II, Aquaman, and The Martian Manhunter

>4. Where does the Legion fit into it all?

	Badly. ;-) 
	For the most part, Superboy's place has been mostly taken by Valor
(Mon-El's Post Crisis name), and Supergirl's by Laurel Gand (Valor's 
cousin).  Superboy did exist for a short period of time (so that
Superman could go to the Pocket Universe to go on his Guilt Trip).
LSH is now known as "Retcons R Us."

>Any comments?

	Yeah, the latest issues of Titans are disappointing.
	And Guy Gardner's new costume is goofy, and the yellow ring
effects look even more goofy.
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From: caw@gtech.com (Christopher A. White)
Subject: Re: Metropolis/Gotham/NYC (was Re: New Titans #89)
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:39:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.041037.7185@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim)) writes:
>In article <mumble> silvers3@husc8.harvard.edu (Jolyon Silversmith) writes:
>
>>> Metropolis was originally supposed to represent the good side of New
>>> York City and Gotham was the bad side of the same.  That was of course
>>> long ago; now that we have Metropolis, Gotham, and New York existing
>>> in the same universe they've had to make them all different cities.
>>
>>Actually, New York existed on Earth-1 before the Crisis, if that's what you
>>meant; Supergirl was based there in the early '80's, for example, and the New
>>Titans have always been there.
>
>I meant long ago as in LONG AGO, back in the early days of DC Comics
>when no one existed in or visited a 'real world' city like New York;
>they'd always go to Metropolis, or Gotham, or Civic City (original
>home of the JSA).
>

Color me lost, but, I thought that according to the maps, et al in the DC 
Heros game, Gotham was actually Rhode Island.

Correct me am I wrong

Topher
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:22:13 -0400 
From: "David M. Pahnos" <dp0q+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: LSH #33
	<1992Jul27.031845.25034@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>

> 
>If Garth really has Proty's mind, then the clone had better either 1) have
>Proty's mind, or 2) have Garth's mind, but memories which cut off at the point
>of his "death".  Someone goofed.  And this is exactly one of the things which
>was _wrong_ with the whole Garth-is-really-Proty idea in the first place.
> 
>This ties into another thread: the Swamp Thing thread about the inconsistency
>between saying that memories are physical and copyable, and saying that
>memories go with the soul.  The same applies here: no matter _what_ we see for
>the Garth/Proty clone, the existence of all the _other_ clones still poses a
>problem.  To say that clones of Legionnaires can have copies of the
>Legionnaires' memories, minds, and personalities implies that memories are
>physical; and saying that Garth is really Proty implies that memories go with
>the soul.  (And this is completely independent of the first goof, even though
>it might not at first seem that way.)


Not quite: Memories/personality might be a combination of both.

Garth dies and his soul goes to hereafter.
Proty's soul is imprinted on Garth's body. 
Garth's body retains memories of Garth's personality.
Proty uses these to assist him in 'playing' garth (he has the framework,
so he uses it)
The clones are created.
At some point, these new bodies develop new 'blank slate' souls.
The souls take the memories imprinted on the body at the basis for the
soulds personality.
Garth returns to his old self (brash).
Proty made the original Garth calm down, probably the weight of the
death/resurrection process and the desire to not screw it up made him
cautious.

Why didn't Imra ever pick up on this (and if she suspected, not acted?)

Does her telepathy work on the mind, the soul, or something else?
I think it works on that grey area that is the meeting of the soul and mind.
Color the mind black, and the sould white, and where they meet (the
grey) is where Imra utilises her telepathy.  That grey is Garth and
Proty both.  If that person you were reading had just died and you were
getting signals like that, I would have attributed it to death too.

Mentalla is an example of a titanian that uses only the black part of
the mind for her telepathy.  Universon perhaps also. (hypnotelepathy)


michael j pastor iii
guest on davids account

p.s. Kid Quantum is a tragedy is writing.  Brande was meeting with the
Proteans to get them equal rights liberation for heavens sake!!
From: romkey@asylum.UUCP (John Romkey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Doom Patrol FF send-up
Date: 29 Jul 92 06:38:17 GMT
Distribution: na

dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:
>          Crazy Jane = Sue Storm

Actually, Rita (what was her name? "Elastic Girl" or something) was the Sue
Storm analog.

>But Cliff's brain spends most of the issue displaced by a villain's brain.

That was an earlier issue. The Fantastic Four send-up (including the Living
Guru, that hip hop daddio of the deva dimensions) was a dream of Danny
The Street.
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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Elfquest:  The Hidden Years #2
Date: 25 Jul 92 05:54:51 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Well, this was certainly a better issue than the first Hidden Years
story!  Much better artwork, too.  Last issue it seemed that the coloring
was being used as an excuse not to bother inking.  It still has a ways
to go, though.

Do we infer that Yun is Skywise's daughter?

Richard Pini, in his editorial, rather obnoxiously tells people that if
they're really buying the comic for the story, they won't mind cutting
a coupon from it.  This ignores the fact that one can buy a comic to
enjoy, rather than for profit, and still take pleasure in having it be
in the best possible condition.

-----
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   Aphorism is better than none.
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From: jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling)
Subject: Re: CBG Awards!
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 07:26:01 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.232747.1@happy.colorado.edu> mamcconnell@happy.colorado.edu) (Mark (MacBear) McConnell) writes:
>Yes!  Finally, I can see where my vote counts.  1/10 of his position!
>We made the list.  Now maybe they'll believe us when we talk of
>The (now amorphized) Squidster

I was another Suicide Squid voter.  That's three votes (it looks like).

I never got a copy of the CBG awards -- a packing error caused us to get two
bundles of Comic Shop News rather than CBG.  Don't suppose anyone would be
so kind as to post a list of winners (or, god help them) a full list?

-------
Scowling Jim Cowling
Creative Writing Department, University of Victoria (opinions disassociated)
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From: jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein)
Subject: Re: PEOPLE: Neal Adams Checklist
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:08:20 GMT

sta2534@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
> 
> Neal Adams also did the artwork on the Twilight Zone Premiere 
> issue, "Crazy as a Soup Sandwich" with Harlan Ellison.
> 
> 
> Steve A.

But that might not qualify as a major work, as they're trying only to
catalouge his major works.
The list has a number of major ommisions that should be included.
First of all, it totally ignores Adams' career as an Archie artist.
And also, more importantly, Adams' entire career at Continuity comics
is skipped, which I regard as probably his most important era as an
artist.  SELF PUBLISHING!  Ms. Mystic should at the very least be on a
complete Adams' list.  Another thing that's missing is the early 80's
publication "The Art of Neal Adams" which basically covered his entire
career up until that point, and is required reading for any Adams'
fan...
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From: sherman@oak.math.ucla.edu (The Ahkond of Swat)
Subject: Re: DC screws up Doom Patrol TP
Organization: The Island of Misfit Toys
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 21:39:37 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.021916.26691@uwm.edu> ultron@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Andrew H Krieg) writes:
>I'm pissed.  I just finished reading the Doom Patrol synopsis report for the
>issues covered by the trade paperback, and I have learned that the stories
>were edited.  
>
>Here is the page count for the stories in the TP.  Could someone with the
>originals tell me how many pages from each issue were removed? 
>
>19 - 22
>20 - 22
>21 - 24
>22 - 23
>23 - 22
>24 - 23
>25 - 23

My copies of 19 and 20 have 22 pages each.  Issues 21 to 25 all have 24
pages each; so it looks as if you've been cheated out of five pages total.



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From: hcheng@Auspex.COM (Howard Cheng)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: MISC: CBG Awards results
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:15:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

In article <1992Jul28.153608.57572@cc.usu.edu> sl859@cc.usu.edu writes:
>
>I like the 5th one there.  But I ask you, is it Death of which comic?
>DC or Marvel or What?  Hmmmmmmm... Perhaps Death of Marvel I suggest 
>although Death of DC doesn't sound that bad >;-) ...
>					wReam...

Death is a character in DC's "Sandman" comic book.

h.
 
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From: ultron@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Andrew H Krieg)
Subject: Doom Patrol: Where was the Chief?
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:01:20 GMT

I collected the new Doom Patrol up through #9, but wasn't all that impressed
and dropped the title.  Now I have picked up the trade paperback of the
revised new Doom Patrol (and many subsequent back issues), but I still have
some questions on the gap in between there.

Where did they finally find the Chief?  How did he survive the explosion of
the island?  What was he up to the last 2 years?

What happened to the kid who was hiding in the Doom Patrol to escape the
police?

How did Scott and Celsius die?

What happened to Negative Woman?  How did Negative Man get the energy back
from her?

Are any of the issues in the gap of #10-#18 worth picking up?
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From: jwtlai@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Jim W Lai)
Subject: The Books of Magic
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:17:39 GMT

Is it news that DC is working on a graphic novel of the four books?  I saw Neil
Gaiman at a signing yesterday and had the fortune of seeing a man bring in a
piece of original art to be signed, to have Neil tell him that DC had been
hunting down that panel so they could correct a slight error in the positioning
of a word balloon.
From: rkelly@carina.unm.edu (Robert Kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Lobo Questionnaire
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:24:41 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


	       The FIRST ANNUAL FRAG-YOU-AND-YOUR-DOG 

			MAIN MAN QUESTIONNAIRE


Please answer honestly, with appropriate sarcasm as desired.  (Inappropriate,
undesired sarcasm will be thrown to /dev/null.)


1) What did *you* think of the Christmas special?

2) Would *you* like a baseball cap with "PAIN" inscribed on the back?

3) Has reading LOBO caused you to adopt a Nietzschean-type view on morality?

4) Is LOBO really violent, or is he merely a victim of machismo?

5) (Chicks) Would your dream date include a ride on the SpazFrag 666?

6) Is LOBO really sexist, or is he merely a victim of machismo? 

7) Do *you* condone violence?

8) (Dudes) Plastic surgery permitting, would you like to be LOBO?

9) (Dudes) What if chicks answered yes to #5?

10) Have you ever been laid?  Has this had an effect on your opinion of LOBO?

11) Do you consider yourself a Fanboy?  And would you bite LOBO like
	he tells you to?

12) Is LOBO really complex, y'know, like Micheal Keaton, or is he
	just a victim of machismo? 

13) Conjugate the verb to Frag and explain its entomological roots.

14) Why does LOBO need a fig leaf?  Or a leather thong with glandular
	conditions?  Is this not a *mature audiences* book?

All-in-all, this may seem tongue in cheek, but the questions are serious.

Please e-mail me back the answers within the week.  I'll mention you in my
report ("Yeah, right.") 

Seriously.

(Thanks to Kat Hill, a muffin, for giving me these ideas and more.)


Senator Robert Kelly (NM-L)
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Doom Patrol FF send-up
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:23:27 GMT

The DP FF spoof was in issue #53, I believe, or #54.  In other words, very 
recent.  Ken Steacy did the art for it.  It was less biting than Doom Force #1,
and came across as much a fromage (to use Byrne-speak) as a spoof. In case it 
isn't obvious,
          Cliff = Thing
          Negative Man = Torch
          Crazy Jane = Sue Storm
          Chief = Reed
But Cliff's brain spends most of the issue displaced by a villain's brain.
     Dave Van Domelen, fromage bella de Wisconsin
From: goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: SANDMAN - SPOILER
Date: 27 Jul 1992 01:18:49 GMT
Organization: The Sinister Icy Black Hand of Death Club
Reply-To: goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
NNTP-Posting-Host: lightning.berkeley.edu
Originator: goldfarb@lightning.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Jul25.184832.2847@ils.nwu.edu> pautler@ils.nwu.edu (David Pautler) writes:
)In issue #41, Destruction tells Despair in 1665 that in thirty years he will
)leave.  If Desire was partially the cause of Destruction's leaving (and I
)believe she was), then she must have started early or Destruction was prescient.

	Not quite true. Despair and Destruction meet in 1665 and then 
we're told *in narration* that she saw him next "for the last time"
thirty years later. There's no indication that Destruction was prescient,
although there were indications that he was thinking of leaving even then.

	As for what will happen, or who Dream's lover is? After "The
Season of Mists" part 2 I gave up on trying to second-guess Gaiman.
(Well, actually I didn't, but I'm no better at it now than I was then.)

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