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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:52:34 MST
From:         dleland@NMSU.EDU
Subject:      Re: Price listings
              Hair." at Jan 24, 93 1:35 pm

The power up program is a farce? Excuse me? A drop of over $1500 bucks is
a farce? Guys... uh, guys? Are you sure you haven't changed all of your
names to Marc Barrett? We are living on the same planet aren't we? You
know, the one where a 1/3 price reduction is considered significant?

Seraiously, what do you want? Commodore doesn't have any power over what
a dealer sells his computers for. That's what "Manufacturer's Suggested
Retail Price" means. THAT has dropped considerably. C= dealers are independant
entities. They aren't corporate extensions like Radio Shack or Sears salesmen,
who can't dicker on price at all (I know, unfortunately I used to sell
Radio Shack stuff... bleah :-} ).

I'm not trying to start yet another pointless argument. I'm not attacking
anybody, but I just can't help noticing that in these newsgroups there's
an unfortunate tendancy to just shout before finding out the facts. We ignore
reality and just bash Commodore no matter what they do. If they drop
their prices it's "a farce." If they come out with new technology it's
either not good enough, "leaving the users behind," "forcing us to upgrade"
or some such nonsense. If they get rid of an old machine they are "abandoning
the users." No matter what they DO it's wrong. It is getting just a bit
irritating. I just thought somebody should say that.


Darrell Leland
dleland@nmsu.edu
From: djb@doc.ic.ac.uk (D J Burke)
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Subject: Rumours on 030 AGA machines please ...
Date: 27 Jan 1993 11:28:44 -0000
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So, when are the mythical 030 based AGA machines coming out ?

I want one.

(well actually several, but one'll do for now ;)

-- 

 "To err is Human, to really screw it up you have to be a politician"

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From:         Daniel Joseph Oak <jonin@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Need Several Pieces of Information :)
              27, 93 7:33 pm

> > I need suggestions on a cheaper route, and a Commodore Service # so that
> > I can contact them and see how much I can get one from them an/or
> > repair the old one for.

Well you can do what I hear some have done.  Simply get a IBM keyboard to
Amiga converter cable, and plug in a ibm keyboard. :)  I have seen them
in rapid price ranges from 20$ to 70$. so it shouldent be that expensive. :)


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From:         "Janusz A. Urbanowicz" <ALEX@PLTUMK11.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: .Z
              28 Jan 1993 10:54:20 CDT from <A02DJS1@NOC.NIU.EDU>

On Thu, 28 Jan 1993 10:54:20 CDT Dan Szkola said:
>
>>Date:          Thu, 28 Jan 1993 10:23:52 CST
>>Reply-to:      Info-Amiga List <I-AMIGA%RUTVM1.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
>>From:          Michael Hardy 6-93 <hardymic@MAINRT.LUTHER.UNI.EDU>
>>Subject:       .Z
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>
>>Is the .Z extension on files another packing method?  If so
>>is the unpacker in a typical .../utils/pack directory at
>>an ftp station?  I can't seem to find it?
>>
>>Thanks in advance for any help on the .Z's.  :)
>>
>>                        -mIke
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>| Michael Hardy                                                          |
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>
>    .Z is the extension for a uuencoded file. You need to find
> a uudecode program. I could probably upload the one from UUCP
> somewhere if you can't find one.
Oh, no, not again.. If anybody have the startup file send it to them both.
The *.Z extension is _NOT_ for uuencoded file. It is for COMPRESSED files.
Compressed using Unix/Vax/VMS Compress program.
Amiga version of compress is placed in wuarchive.wustl.edu and is called
compress-40.lha if I remember properly.
to decompress the *.Z file on Amy, use compress -d filename.
And please, read the Startup file.

Alex

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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 02:10:30 PST
From:         Daniel Joseph Oak <jonin@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Changing WB-Screen :)
              93 6:01 pm

>
> Hi,there:
>
>     Could someone tell me if there is any program that can change the
> WorkBench Screen Pattern, or setting some pictures insted of a simple
> blank-page.
>
> Note: I am using WB.v1.3.
>
> Thanks....
>
> < JWONG @ UCRVM2 >
>

Well my first answer is to go 2.04 or above and use nickprefs.  :)
(and while your at it - install my busy pointer anim of the world revolving. :)

other then that there is some programs that did the trick on 1.3.
one was called backdrop and the other was a name I cant remember - had
genlock in the name somehow. (shrug) It's been a while . :)

2.x is definatly worth your $ to get though. :)


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From:         "Magnus Wissler... Amiga rules..." <NDB120@NOV.HB.SE>
Subject:      Re: Gadgets & images

> From:          Martin Kalugin <martink@CENTRAL1.LANCASTER.AC.UK>

Rejoice! For at last someone had asked a programming question! Perhaps this
is a good sign... Since I don't have UseNet access, thus excluding me from
the comp.sys.amiga.programming groups, I had to resort to this I-AMIGA ;-),
and so far I think this is the first question of its kind... I think I'll go
for a beer tonight... ;->

>                               Martin Kalugin

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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:33:29 EST
From:         Etop Udoh <eudoh@ST6000.SCT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Need Several Pieces of Information
              Training: Deva WinbloodDayva Wineblood" at Jan 27, 93 12:50 pm

>
> Well, it saddens me that my keyboard for my A2000 has gone out of
> commision.  The RETURN key of all things does not work.
>
> So, I am needing to order a new one... the only one I have seen i
> s a $129 from Creative Computers...
>
> I need suggestions on a cheaper route, and a Commodore Service # so that
> I can contact them and see how much I can get one from them an/or
> repair the old one for.
>
>
> Deva Winblood            ADP_DEVA@WSC.COLORADO.EDU
>
northgate has limited quantities of the Ultra-x a2000 compatible keyboard..
for about $93 with keycaps.....don't remember if that includes shipping...
but I got that information just a week ago after ressurrecting my
A2000, and was in need of a keyboard.....

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From:         BINKY <CSHD92IB@VAXA.ANGLIA-POLYTECHNIC.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: ami-hard, csys-ami list dead again?

>>>I haven't gotten any mail from Csys-ami and ami-hard since 14-jan.
>>>Did UmaineCS go down again?  I sent a help command to the listserv there
>>>(to see if it is still going) and have not received a reply.
>>
>>I joined the list successfully last week, and got sent all the bumf, but have
>>not received any mail either.
>>
>>Ian
>
>Looks like they are back again.  I just received 10 or so digests from
>ami-hard and csys-ami.
>
Bloody hell, Ami hard just sent my account 1000blocks overdrawn, is this going
to happen often?

Ian
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:24:00 EDT
From:         BARNETTJ@SNYSYRV1.BITNET
Subject:      Software IBM emulators/Windows

Could someone post a brief review of the various software IBM emulators
available, whether or not they can access a HD, how a HD needs to
be set up so that access can be achieved, and whether or not they will
run windows based applications.  The unit in question is an A500, with
an 030 accelerator with MMU, without FPU, and GVP Series II HD with an
empty 40 meg partition available.

I really was never impressed with the speed or compatibility of
ATONCE plus (nor the GVP 286 AT module which is really an ATONCE plus
packaged slightly differently - although the software is identical!) with
the demands of IBM/MS-DOS software.

Thanks

Please mail responses to Barnettj@snysyrv1.bitnet
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 11:13:56 EST
From:         "Me)" <JCOX@UTCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Gadgets & images

Hello,
   Sorry to have to ask this to the list, but I have a question for those
of you with access to internet:
   How do you join one/any of the c.s.a. groups?  Our school just got
internet access (I love REAL ftp!) and I don't know how to get onto
c.s.a.
   Also, how do you use archie?

Please reply directly to me if at all possible.

Thanks,
Jason Cox

Jason E. Cox                                              (Gambit)

UT Chattanooga Biology Major      Tri-Beta Sigma Chapter President

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From: ahansfor@bigwpi.wpi.edu (Andrew L. Hansford)
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Subject: Re: Rumours on 030 AGA machines please ...
Date: 28 Jan 93 21:36:46
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In-reply-to: davis@chem.canterbury.ac.nz's message of Thu, 28 Jan 1993 20:55:49 GMT

>>>>> On Thu, 28 Jan 1993 20:55:49 GMT, davis@chem.canterbury.ac.nz (John Davis) said:

davis> D J Burke (djb@doc.ic.ac.uk) wrote:


> So, when are the mythical 030 based AGA machines coming out ?

davis> The 4000/030 (which has a 25Mhz 030ec in it) is meant to be
davis> available here beginning of feburary. It's NZ$4500 (as opposed
davis> to NZ$6500 for the 4000/040) so it's considerably cheaper,
davis> albeit slower

Please say it has a real 030 and not a ec030.  An ec030 (or any
MMUless CPU) and ZorroIII cards may have problems from what I've heard.

-- Andrew Hansford
   ahansfor@wpi.wpi.edu
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From:         jorrit@UZ.KULEUVEN.AC.BE
Subject:      Re: riscy business

>Finally, anyone know of a decent C++ compiler for the amiga, and how compliant
>is it to current PC C++ compilers?
>
>Ian

GCC is a more-than-decent C++ compiler. In fact, it is an excelent C++
compiler. I doubt that you are going to find anything better on Amiga. Note
that you need lots of memory (more than 4 megabytes at least) and lots of
harddisk space.
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:11:00 EST
From:         YDEZTJA@IUP.BITNET
Subject:      The Fatter Agnus Chip

I downloaded SYSInfo last night, and tried it out on my A500.
Lo, and behold, my AGNUS chip is ECS! But, it isn't activated.
So, in conclusion, can someone send me the Startup-repost Pt II,
which tells how to accomplish this, ASAP?

Thanks!

Captain *CRASH*
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 12:13:43 CDT
From:         Dan Szkola <A02DJS1@NOC.NIU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Software IBM emulators/Windows

>Date:          Wed, 27 Jan 1993 12:41:00 GMT
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>From:          STST8138@IRUCCVAX.UCC.IE
>Subject:       Re: Software IBM emulators/Windows
>To:            Multiple recipients of list I-AMIGA <I-AMIGA%RUTVM1.BitNet@pucc.
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>>         HARD DISK     :  It emulates your dh0: You can even split your
>>                          dh0: in particions and use other of them as PC-hard-
>>                          drives and the rest as Amiga-drives !!!!!!!!
>
>
>I do not have PC Task, but I believe that there is no need to partition your HD
 .
>You can select a c: drive size from the prefs in megs. This will then create an
>AmigaDos file on your hard drive of that size, which is a binary file but makes
>sense to PC Task. This dead cool as it saves memory, and does not leave an ugly
>unrecogniseable icon on your WB screen. Also I believe you can use the Amiga
>mouse in PC mode, although I guess you would need a mouse driver. You'll have
>to ask somebody else about that I'm afraid, but I know that it can be done.

 Can't comment on the hard drive part, but the mouse is emulated in
 programs that support mouse. No driver is needed. I have the demo
 and I plan to pay to get the accelerated version.
From: bdraschk@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Bernd Raschke)
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Subject: Re: WB 3.0 with 2.04 rom
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:37:29 GMT
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BBOWLES <bbowles@IUS.INDIANA.EDU> writes:

>          It wont work! :-( I tried it and it gave me an error saying
>          "Requires 3.0 Kickstart".  Would have been nice though.
Hm? Just yesterday i booted my A500T (with68010, 2.04 ROM) with my
Kick3.0 disks (from the A4000). It all worked properly and WB got started.
I was even able to open a Shell via WB's "Execute Command". But some program
like Palette or Screenmode refused to work (graphics.library too old ...)
So: Works partly, but not much useful.

Ciao,
	Arty
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From: ele0136@sys.uea.ac.uk (A. Harvey)
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Subject: Re: WB 3.0 with 2.04 rom
Date: 28 Jan 93 12:41:09 GMT
Organization: UEA School of Information Systems, Norwich, UK.

AVERHE@BANRUC60.BITNET writes:

>>
>> jorrit@UZ.KULEUVEN.AC.BE writes:
>> >Granted, for most of these enhancements you also need the 3.0 ROM but this
>> >is not the case for some of them (like MultiView, datatypes, monitor files,
>> >...)
>>
>> Multiview and datatypes use some new features in v39 BOOPSI, so they
>> do require a 3.0 ROM.  Booting 3.0 with a 2.04 ROM gives you nothing
>> new--just a stripped down (because v39 preferences don't work with a
>> v37 ROM), somewhat unstable (because of the version mismatches) 2.1.
>> All the new stuff in 3.0 is either in ROM, or depends on new stuff in
>> ROM.
>>

>I've got somewhere the 3.0 on a disk, which you put in the memory with
>'rekick', something simular to zkick. The only difference is that it isn't
>reset-proof, when you reset you get back the 1.2/1.3/2.0, or whatever your
>roms are, and you have to reload the 3.0.
>I've tested it some time ago, and it worked fine.

>I now have exams, but when someone wants to have it, I'll mail it in 2 weeks
>or so, just let me know.

>     Regards,

>          Aeneas.
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I don't seem to able to mail to your host. (?)

Anyway send to me at ele0136@radon.sys.uea.ac.uk

Thanks!

Adam Harvey.
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From:         JVENTOLA@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU
Subject:      Re: SCSI tape

Software Hut has the tape drive built for the A3000 by C=.  It lists
for slightly over $1000 but they are selling it for $350 or so.  I just
got one last week.  Plug and go.  Works fine. One year warrantee from
Commodore.  It is NOT really small, but you can carry it around in a
small case, which is what I will do since I went in on it with a
friend.

jventola@ecn.mass.edu
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 09:21:01 -0500
From:         CAMACHO@ECSUC.CTSTATEU.EDU
Subject:      Opalvision

Does anyone know if the developers of Opalvision plan to release
an external board for the A500. I read that this was the original
plan...

Carlos C\
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From:         Dan Szkola <A02DJS1@NOC.NIU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Software IBM emulators/Windows

>Date:          Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:43:00 EDT
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>So is PC Task shareware, on the net, PDomain, commercial?  Where can I get
>my hands on it to try it out?

It's shareware. You can get the demo on most ftp sites with Amiga
stuff.
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:27:00 EDT
From:         "The Large Guy with Buckwheat's Hair." <LANDAS88@SNYPOTVA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Query: Virtual Memory for Amiga

Check out AmigaWorld's January issue.  They do a review of one of the
Commercial VM programs.

Personally...... I think Virtual Memory is worthless. IMHO.....

I'm looking forward to low cost Gigabyte memory modules... :>
Keep dreaming right. :>

-Nyle
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From:         "Martin N. Steed" <u0g78@TEACH.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: RocHard HD for the A500
              "GADGET" at Jan 22, 93 2:47 am

<GADGET> writes:
>
>
> I almost bought a RocHard HD and controller for my amiga 500.  ALMOST.
> But, when it came in the dealer spent over a day fiddling with it to try
> and configure it... the rom would not configure properly no matter what
> positions he put the jumpers in.  Well, since I had waited so long for
> this silly thing anyway, I didn't take any chances... I sent the thing back
> immediately and ordered my GVP.. I couldn't be happier.

Well, you must have had a duff one then, mine works fine.

Installation is a breeze, just plug it in, set the correct jumper for which
ROM revision you have, and away you go.

>
> Oh, yeah, also, RocTech's HD controller is IDE (which may be no big deal
> to you, but then again maybe it is) It costs about $300 more for the
> SCSI controller.

You what?? I got my RocHard (with a 130Mb Maxtor SCSI) and 2Mb of ram for
#350 sterling (this was on import from the US though, so I had to pay some
import duty etc.)

Martin
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From: jon@kih.no (jon kvebak)
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Subject: Re: Imagine attributes
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:00:17 GMT
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CAMACHO@ECSUC.CTSTATEU.EDU wrote:
> Hello, I'm starting to get the hang of Imagine. I was wondering if
> someone has various attribute listings for different materials..
> I have the manual ones, and the ones in the Imagine Companion book...

> Carlos

Well, I happen to have a few - retrieved from the imagine mail list.
I've tried to get hold of the ftp adresses for this list. If anyone 
has it, put it down here.
And Carlos, if you want mine, email me and tell me what you want. I'll
try to dig it up.

Jon  
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