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From: csg068@cch.coventry.ac.uk (** DECKER **)
Subject: Re: Real Football in Torquay Shock  (5-2 Ha!)
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 10:11:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.094816.4988@jet.uk> djs@jet.uk (David J Stevenson) writes:
>Anyone know a worse football side than Torquay United?  Not a great advert
>for the Football League as, on Saturday in the FA Cup against Yeovil...

I only caught the end of Match of the Day, and can anyone tell me which team
was responsible for the hilarious "dying fly" impersonations when they scored
a goal? I seem to remember that they wore red hooped shirts. It wasn't
Corinthian, was it?

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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: lsg001@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Graham Wilson)
Subject: Re: Satellite Dishes
Organization: Legal Department - Coventry University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:07:27 GMT

In article <721841525snz@dims.demon.co.uk> dingram@dims.demon.co.uk ("Darren P. Ingram") writes:
>
>In article <OKES.92Nov11203051@SunLab40.essex.ac.uk> okes@essex.ac.uk writes:
>
>>We have a BSB squariel at home. It sits on the floor, pointing out the
>>(double-glazed) French windows. We get a perfect picture, even when it rains.
>>Of course, that changes when someone walks in front of it...
>
>
>Which won't be any use in its current state from 31/12/92:-)


** I gather that because so few people purchased BSB squari-thinghys
   that they might become antique collectors items shortly. Imagine
   your own antique square BSB tea tray !


   

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From: jharuni@micrognosis.co.uk (Jonathan Haruni)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Cellular Phone Reconnection
Date: 16 Nov 92 09:35:34 GMT
Organization: Micrognosis International, London

I see ads in papers for "reconnections", with companies offering "free
reconnections" or "we pay you xxx pounds to reconnect your mobile phone
regardless of history, yes, regardles....."

What exactly is a "reconnection"  ??  I figure these companies take
cellphones from people who didn't pay their cellphone bills, and give
them back to the owners, re-enabled, as long as the owners sign a direct
debit or something like that.  Is that about right ?

These ads are obviously very shady.  What exactly is the scam here ?
Clearly if they "pay you to reconnect your phone", they have some way
of stealing the money back.  But if I'm right and they just want a direct
debit, well, what's the point of a direct debit on a bank account of
someone who has already proved himself a deadbeat ?

What is the scam they use to reconnect banned phones to the networks ?
Do they change the id chips or something ?

Jonathan Haruni
jharuni@micrognosis.co.uk
From: iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Ivan A Derzhanski)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Was: Re: 29 Feb 2000?, Now: 2000/2001
Date: 22 Nov 92 22:30:51 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK

In article <9gTHuB16w165w@mantis.co.uk> mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) writes:
>The idea of having a calendar was invented by the Mayan civilization;
>however, they soon gave up the idea because of the difficulty of fixing the
>correct date for Christmas, Easter and so on.

Oh dear.  I always thought that the reason they had managed to come up
with the most precise calender in the world was that they didn't have
to think of such events as Christmas or Easter.

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From: conor@lion.inmos.co.uk (Conor O'Neill)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: ...how to sue ???
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:36:49 GMT
Reply-To: conor@inmos.co.uk (Conor O'Neill)
Organization: INMOS Limited, Bristol, UK.

In article <BxntMG.K7w@cck.coventry.ac.uk> lsg001@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Graham Wilson) writes:
>In article <2196@snap> paj@uk.co.gec-mrc (Paul Johnson) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov10.122832@axion.bt.co.uk> AMcBride@axion.bt.co.uk writes:
>>
>>>Can anyone give me any advice on how to sue a company?
>>
>>If the amount involved is less than (I think) UKL5,000 then the Small
>>Claims Court is the way to go.  Go to your local County Court and ask
>>for details using the keyword "small claims".
>
>   I would strongly recommend you use a Solicitor if you are considering 
>   taking an action through the court, unless you intend to limit your
>   maximum claim to the small claims court.

Be aware that any claim through the small claims court WILL NOT
pay legal (ie solicitor's) costs, even if you win.
So don't automatically involve your local friendly solicitor.
Assuming you win, you do get back the cost of the small claim,
which in my case was 37 quid for a claim for 430 pounds.
If you are unsure as to your exact legal position, the local
Citizen's Advice Bureau will probably give you some advice.
Be prepared to queue for a while...

Also, many Solicitor's do a cheap deal, where you get your first interview
for a small fee (five pounds when I used this). They, of course, will
encourage you to sue.  Remember that they use this scheme as a loss leader,
and will charge you through the nose for any further work they do for you.

I would agree with another poster, that sending a copy of the small claims
form to the other person, telling them that you'll send it to the court
in a few days, will probably work wonders.

However, apart from the stress level, dealing through the small claims
court is surprisingly straightforward.

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From: cah@cs.bham.ac.uk (Ceri Hopkins)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: TV licence authorities get wrists smacked
Date: 20 Nov 92 11:45:42 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: School of Computer Science, University of Birmingham, UK

>>>>> On 19 Nov 92 16:04:44 GMT, cei352@cck.coventry.ac.uk (The Freak) said:

> Oh,my poor heart bleeds for them,me thinks not.I,and quite proudly so,do not
>own a television licence,mainly due to the fact that my television blew up
>about a month ago.....its sods' law,especially when the new series of Have I 
>got News for You has begun its umpteen week run.Prior to this though,I still
>didnt have a licence.I kept a television licence application form by the side
>of my television,already filled out,and incase any welcome TV detector men 
>happened to call in,I would have simply said I had the form and was going 
>to post it tomorrow.Whether they would have believed me though i do not know..
>  Is it true though that they cannot fine you on the spot.? I have heard that
>  you must obtain a licence within 7 days of yourself being caught in order
>  to escape prosecution.? Can anyone enlighten me as to the validity of this.?

Are you quite sure you have not been pressurised into giving this
confession? Proud not to have a TV licence, eh? Expect eveyone else to
cough up the revenue for "Have I Got News For You"? Selfish git!

Ceri
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From: cmh004@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Dave)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: 29 Feb 2000?
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:31:51 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Lanchester Polytechnic

>Yet I can get cal to give me a calander for *January 1752* - no such
>month ever existed in England though the month would have existed in
>Scotland.

Whoops sorry I should of used 1/1751 and not 1/1752 as my example of non
existant months.
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From: cmh004@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Dave)
Subject: Re: Coventry vs. London/etc (was Re: humor in England)
Organization: Lanchester Polytechnic
Distribution: uk
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:14:53 GMT

In article <BxyJLx.Kpr@cck.coventry.ac.uk> apj003@cck.coventry.ac.uk (James W Bottomley) writes:
>>>As regards the architecture in Coventry, all I can say is that it grows
>>>on you. And the roads do work well, despite looking like hell.
>>         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>No they don't!  Coventry's attempt at a ring-road is a complete disaster;
>>there's hardly enough distance for cars to get on to it, while avoiding
>>those crossing their paths to get off it. 

Perhaps that might explain why they are repairing it at the moment. How about
the walkers (can't spell pedtrastians) who have to cross it every day. Who
built that really crap bridge near the RM sorting office. So bad that nobody
used it so the council put up six foot high railings between the carridge ways.
So you're forced to use that bloody bridge.

>There's not much in Coventry but road systems!

Come on theres a lot more in Coventry than it's ring road. Like a shopping
priceint designed like a 3D maze. A cathedral with no roof. A Lady ridding
a horse with no kit on. Coventry also boasts two universities yet I'll admit
that one of them has a rather dense geography department if they think that
they are in a town 12 miles away.
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From: paj@uk.co.gec-mrc (Paul Johnson)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: car insurance scam
Date: 20 Nov 92 11:17:12 GMT
Reply-To: paj@uk.co.gec-mrc (Paul Johnson)
Distribution: uk
Organization: GEC-Marconi Research Centre, Great Baddow, UK

In article <SM.92Nov19113915@suns2.cel.co.uk> sm@cel.co.uk (salim mehta) writes:
>In article <722097911.3647@minster.york.ac.uk> simpson@minster.york.ac.uk wrote:
>> My car was stolen from outside my house and the insurers have taken a long
>> time to do anything about it. The latest scam that they have come up with
>> is to ask for a copy of my licence. This seems irrelevant to me......
>[stuff deleted]

>Write to them and politely *refuse*. You are claiming against *theft*
>not for accident cover. Explain to them that your (fictitious is OK)
>solicitor considers a refusal to settle a breach of contract.

I would comply with the request but add that unless you get payment
within two weeks you will be issuing a County Court Summons for
payment.  You can do this without a solicitor if the amount is less
than UKL 5,000.  Its called a Small Claim, and was hashed over here a
couple of weeks ago.  Go to your COUNTY court (civil not criminal) and
ask for details.

The reason that insurance companies delay paying is that they get to
pocket the interest in the meantime.  If they delay paying UKL 5,000
for 6 months then at 10%/annum they get another UKL 250.  Meantime you
have had to pay another UKL 750 for an unsecured loan at 25% to buy
another car while you wait for them to settle.

A small claim probably won't recover interest (there is a threshold
above which you can claim it, but I think its rather high) but it does
force them to pay NOW rather than later.

Paul.
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From: smckinty@sunicnc.France.Sun.COM (Steve McKinty - Sun ICNC)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: humor in England
Date: 20 Nov 1992 08:52:53 GMT
Organization: SunConnect
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.france.sun.com

In article <1992Nov19.124012.1601@rdg.dec.com>, cockburn@edieng.enet.dec.com (Craig Cockburn) writes:

> 
> I have never seen Pakora in an Indian restaurant in England, and I've been
> to quite a few including Southall probably the Curry Capital of Britain!
> Pakora is, however, available in supermarkets.
> 
> Pakora is available in virtually every Indian restaurant/take-away in 
> Scotland. Does anyone know why there is this difference?
> 
> Craig
> 


Hmm. I've seen it in Indian restaurants in N. Ireland, and I'm pretty
sure it was on the menu in the only Welsh Indian Restaurant I've been
in.

Looks like the English are missing out again...

Steve

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From: imcneill@mccomp.demon.co.uk (imcneill)
Subject: Re: 29 Feb 2000? 
Distribution: world
Organization: MC Computers
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.18)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:55:07 +0000

I think you've all missed out one important side effect, Barry Norman's film
program will be called film 00  (pronounced "film nought").

Will Barry Norman still be hosting it........and why not ?
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From: alla0008@student.tc.umn.edu (Graham Allan)
Subject: Re: Pavements
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: uk
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:42:38 GMT

In article <JC.92Nov19092339@mr-potter-t-crosser-i-dotter.fulcrum.co.uk> jc@fulcrum.co.uk (John Callingham) writes:
>Does anyone know the definition of a pavement (the legal one, not the
>dictionary one). I ask because I was nearly run over this morning by a
>car crossing the pavement from a drop kerb to enter a drive. I thought
>I was still on the pavement, but the driver seemed to think that he
>had priority because he was still on the road.

I always thought that, as Britain doesn't have any jaywalking laws, the
pedestrian has priority even if they are on the road. Though I wouldn't
advise testing this too hard! I could of course be completely wrong...

Graham						allan@mnhep8.hep.umn.edu


Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: cei352@cck.coventry.ac.uk (The Freak)
Subject: Re: TV licence authorities get wrists smacked
Organization: Coventry University, Coventry, U.K
Distribution: uk
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:01:22 GMT

In article <By0u9I.D3u@cck.coventry.ac.uk> csg020@cch.coventry.ac.uk (***CURTIS***) writes:
>In article <By0oKJ.3sx@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning) writes:
>>
>>
>>What did you say your login was again?
>>
>>$ finger cei352@cck.coventry.ac.uk
>
>Pity that site isnt on the internet aint it! :)
>
>>Hmmm...that'd be Bailey Street, just round from the chip shop right?
>
>I think everywhere in Coventry is just round from the chip shop.

 Ah! You jump to the wrong conclusions,my law abiding citizens of this world.
  I did indeed say that before my tele blew up i did not have a licence.
  But this was whilst I was back at home where we do infact own a television 
  licence.I left this vital fact out so that I could separate the snitches
  from the ones who would keep quiet.So,sorry to disappoint you all,but its
  no Broadmoor for me ...!!!!
  

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From: jpennell@axion.bt.co.uk (John Pennell)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Pavements
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:21:14 GMT
Reply-To: jpennell@axion.bt.co.uk (John Pennell)
Distribution: uk
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs


Er, Pedestrians do *NOT* have "right-of-way" at all times.

I am not suggesting that drivers go around killing pedestrians but,
I thought that "right-of-way" merely attributed blame in the
event of an accident, i.e. you have right-of-way when the
traffic lights are green, but it helps to stop if someone jumps
the lights going the other way.

I could be wrong (usually am), but pedestrians have right-of-way 
in the case that started this thread because the vehicle was crossing
the pedestrian walkway.  For example, had the car been turning right
at a road junction, the car would have right-of-way.  But, turning
into a drive involves crossing the pavement, therefore, the
pedestrian has right-of way.

London would be more of a shite-hole to drive in than it is
already if pedestrians assumed they *ALWAYS* had right of way.  This
would mean it would be the car driver's fault if the pedestrian jumped out
in front of them into the road.....

Just a thought.
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: jc@fulcrum.co.uk (John Callingham)
Subject: Re: Subtle (i.e. obscure) cigarette adverts
Organization: Fulcrum Communications Ltd., Birmingham, England
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:16:03 GMT

In article <6787@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> zlsiimw@mcchpc.mcc.ac.uk (Mark Whidby) writes:


   Recently I've noticed some adverts for cigarettes which are totally beyond
   me. One featured a red scorpion and the other featured an empty glass with
   a beer bottle top lying beside it. Anybody know what brands these are
   advertising? 


I don't know the names, but I believe that the tobacco companies are
trying to get round some advertising laws about not including brand
names in tobacco advertising.

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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Subject: Re: 29 Feb 2000?
Reply-To: gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:33:24 GMT

In article <BxwprH.J0M@newcastle.ac.uk> J.W.Harley@newcastle.ac.uk (Jon Harley) writes:
>
>The romans had no zero (thinks: how did they indicate correct termination
>of their C programs?:-) so the first year of the first century AD must have
>been year 1.

The Romans aren't responsible for our current calendar.

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From: lsg001@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Graham Wilson)
Subject: Index Mark
Organization: Legal Department - Coventry University
Distribution: uk
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 10:51:46 GMT


Many CD players display the index mark whenever you play a disc. What is
it for and why do most CDs have an index mark of 1 ? On some CDs the 
index mark changes from 0 to 1 half-way through.


Thanks.



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From: lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun)
Subject: Re: Pavements
Organization: City University, London
Distribution: uk
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 14:39:39 GMT

In article <JC.92Nov19092339@mr-potter-t-crosser-i-dotter.fulcrum.co.uk> jc@fulcrum.co.uk (John Callingham) writes:
>Does anyone know the definition of a pavement (the legal one, not the
>dictionary one). I ask because I was nearly run over this morning by a
>car crossing the pavement from a drop kerb to enter a drive. I thought
>I was still on the pavement, but the driver seemed to think that he
>had priority because he was still on the road.

Eh? Humans have priority on roads. It was explained in `Car Driving
in 2 Weeks' by Nathan. You are driving in a car and see a human
standing in the middle of the road. Are you entitled to run him
over and kill him? No! QED.


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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: sba@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Blade)
Subject: Re: humor in England 
Keywords: Just testing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:37:50 GMT

Just testing please ignore!!!!


Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: igb@fulcrum.co.uk (Ian G Batten)
Subject: Re: Pavements
Organization: Fulcrum Communications
Distribution: uk
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:33:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.143939.8033@city.cs> lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun) writes:
> Eh? Humans have priority on roads. It was explained in `Car Driving
> in 2 Weeks' by Nathan. You are driving in a car and see a human
> standing in the middle of the road. Are you entitled to run him
> over and kill him? No! QED.

After demonstrating this on the A1, you will at least have the
satisfaction of knowing that the people who hit you are in the wrong.

It simply isn't true on Motorways, anyway, or other roads which display
the sign of a white car on a blue background.

ian
From: djs@jet.uk (David J Stevenson)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Real Football in Torquay Shock (5-2 Ha!)
Date: 17 Nov 92 09:35:08 GMT
Organization: Joint European Torus

In <JIM.92Nov16174018@hunter.cs.strath.ac.uk> jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim Reid) writes:

>In article <1992Nov16.094816.4988@jet.uk> djs@jet.uk (David J Stevenson) writes:

>   Anyone know a worse football side than Torquay United?

>The present English and Scottish national teams would do for a start. :-)

Well, both of those are better than Northern Ireland and Wales, so perhaps
it's time to resurrect the Home Championships (but don't let Eire in)  :-)


>When you see the sheer quality, skill and style of the Italian sides
>(thank you Channel 4!), you get a fair idea of just how dreadfully low
>the standard of football is in the UK.
To a large extent I agree with you about the high quality of Italian
football, but I do often get the feeling on Sunday afternoons that I'd like
to see them spend as much on decent defenders as they do on forwards etc.

It will be interesting to see how well the Italian national team copes
with the 'improvement' in Serie A, given that most of the top players
play for Holland, Germany, Denmark, ... (I nearly mentioned England
there, too!).

One other point I would make about the standard of football in England
(but not the rest of the UK) is the sheer depth of 'quality'.  Our best
isn't as good as Serie A IMHO, but one suspects that the GM Conference is
rather higher than the '5th division' in most other countries.

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