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From: mrp@ITD.Adelaide.EDU.AU (Mark Prior)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIA VS. COLLEGE TEAMS N.CAROLINA ETC
Date: 2 Oct 92 10:56:00 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Division, University of Adelaide
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In article <1a9ejaINNbm@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, blip@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Bryan Lip) writes:
|> I HAVE HEARD FROM VARIOUS SOURCES THE AUSTRALIAN NATIONAL TEAM WILL PLAY
|> SOME NCAA AND COLLEGE TEAMS IN NOVEMBER.
|>
|> COULD ANYBODY ENLIGHTEN ME ON THIS?
|>
|> AND THE TEAMS AUSTRALIA WILL PLAY. FROM MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE IS NO TALK
|> HERE ABOUT AUSTRALIA PLAYING AGAINST ANY COLLEGE TEAMS... BUT I REALLY
|> DONT KNOW.
|>
|> I HAVE FOUND OUT THAT AUSTRALIA WILL PLAY NORTH CAROLINA AND NOTRE DAME.
|> ANY OTHER TEAMS?
|>
|> OR IS IT JUST AUSTRALIAN BASKETBALL LEAGUE TEAMS.
|>
I expect it is just the normal end of season trips by the NBL teams.
It would be nice if the NBL sides actually took these things serious
(and the college teams too I guess) then we might actually have a
yardstick between the two comps.

Mark.

PS Do you know where your caps lock key is?
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From: cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: johnson
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:42:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Oct6.192143.7043@pdn.paradyne.com> lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James) writes:
>In article <s915071.718338248@otto> s915071@otto (Kevin HARKNESS) writes:
>>did magic johnson really catch AIDS from michael's dirty butt!
>
>You are a sick person.  Whether you were serious or not does not alter
>this fact.  I will not presume to lecture you, but I emplore you, give
>everyone a break, give up your net access.

Get a clue, folks...  This was a forgery.  Take a careful look at
the header, and note the return address.  Looks like the forger
forgot the domain...  Give poor Kevin a break.

Tony
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From: hira@cme.nist.gov (Ron Hira)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: pervis ellison
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:27:10 GMT
Reply-To: hira@cme.nist.gov
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology

In article <BvIG9J.4p2@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
|> From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
|> >have no real outside threat, and are undersized.
|> 
|> 	Hmm...  what's Michael Adams?  For a guy who has numerous 3-pt
|> 	shooting records, I'd consider him an outside threat.  And, if
|> 	Rex Chapman can get his act together, he'll be an outside threat as
|> 	well.  Brent Price will certainly shoot his share.  I'd say the
|> 	Bullets have a decent amount of outside shooting...

Well, Adams is certainly a gunner but his shot selection & FG% is
questionable. He's supposed to be the PG and run the offense, but
in many cases last year he *was* the offense. Don't get me wrong, 
I like Adams a lot, but they really need a SG or SF who can stick
the J. Maybe Chapman can do this, I thought that he was more of
a slasher type? Price is still a major question mark IMO.

The Bullets problem was scoring points last year. When Adams was
out of the game, Harvey Grant and Pervis were the only real scoring
threats, and yes sometimes streaky Eackles.

Let's see if Gugs is the outside scorer he's billed to be.

I guess I was a bit spoiled by having J. Malone around for so
many years, but I'd still make that trade again in a second. :-)

Ron
From: halpin@sw.stratus.com (Jim Halpin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: RE: Magic's Back
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:42:03 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <91276@netnews.upenn.edu>, satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
> Hi,
> 
> Am I the only one that is slightly distrubed by Magic's return?? Now don't
> get me wrong I think he's one of the greatest players of all time but come
> on now, basketball is a physical sport and the likelyhood of getting cuts is
> pretty darn high.  Now how many of you would want to participate in a full
> contact sport with a person who's carrying an infectitious disease when 
> he starts bleeding???
> 

	If you're concerned about, then you shouldn't just be concerned because
Magic is returning. Any other NBA player may also be carrying HIV. Do you think
that Magic is the only pro athlete who lives a wild & crazy lifestyle while
on those long road trips? I seem to remember another Laker being caught in a
Houston prostitution-sting operation! HIV is not the only risk either,
my understanding is that the Hepititus-B virus can also be transmited by
direct blood-to-blood contact.

	To assume that Johnson is the only NBA player currently HIV-positive is
naive. Other players may have it, but not publically acknowledged the fact. Or
have it, but just have never been tested.

	The right thing to do is assume that any situation involving an open
wound is potentially dangerous, and treat the situation with proper precaution.
It's my understanding that the NBA has policies in place to deal with the
situation. 

-- 
!	Jim  Halpin
!	halpin@turkey.sw.stratus.com
!	Marlboro, MA
From: jblixt@neon.cdc.com (jon blixt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Scottie Brooks Info (was Re: Rockets Trade)
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:22:28 GMT
Reply-To: jblixt@mips.COM (jon blixt)
Distribution: na
Organization: Your Organization Goes Here

In article <1992Sep28.181023.1771@cci632.cci.com> dxj@cci632.cci.com (Dennis Joyce) writes:
>>>>I just read that the Minnesota Timberwolves have traded guard Scott Brooks to
>>>>the Houston Rockets for a 1995 second-round draft choice.  Anyone have any
>>>>info on Brooks?
>
>So does this mean Laettner is going to put his name on the dotted line in the 
>near future? They seem to be clearing away any salary cap problems (Campbell
>and now Brooks)...
>
>						Dennis J.
Dennis,

Woofie management is appearently waiting for the #2 pick, Alonzo Mourning,
for the Charlotte Hornets to sign first so they can make Christian a 
similar offer.

-Jon
From: CS19241099G@LUST.LATROBE.EDU.AU (CRAWFORD, TROY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Fantasy League openings
Date: 30 Sep 92 07:35:03 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <92269.193812ACH2@psuvm.psu.edu> ACH2@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

> 
>      Several openings exist in an e-mail NBA fantasy league.
> Only entrance requirement is stable net (e-mail) access.
> 
> Alan Hutson
> commissioner and owner of the Endorsers
> New Internet Basketball League

	Alan, if there are any openings, can you e-mail me some details, as
I would like to join a fantasy league.

Chris in the land of Oz.
From: guillory@crhc.uiuc.edu (Stanford Guillory)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Magic's Back
Date: 1 Oct 1992 16:20:47 -0500
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
NNTP-Posting-Host: debussy.crhc.uiuc.edu

satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:

>pretty darn high.  Now how many of you would want to participate in a full
>contact sport with a person who's carrying an infectitious disease when 
>he starts bleeding???

Uh ... I think Magic will sit out if he begins to bleed. This isn't hockey,
it's basketball.

>satish nair

Stanford S. Guillory
From: guillory@crhc.uiuc.edu (Stanford Guillory)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Magic un-retires
Date: 1 Oct 1992 16:27:05 -0500
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
NNTP-Posting-Host: debussy.crhc.uiuc.edu

ravi@wti.com (Ravi Raj) writes:


>Now, if he came back for a season, led his underdog club from nowhere
>to a championship, that would be going out on a legendary note.
>And that would also go a long way in erasing the stigma that is
>associated with people who've contracted the HIV virus.

Exactly what stigma is that? The one that says people who have HIV, but
not AIDS, in their physical prime, can't play sports? I've never heard
that particular stigma about HIV-infected people.

If you mean that a high-profile, hetero-sexual (supposedly)  with HIV
demonstrates that AIDS is not a gay disease, I think just about
every human on the planet has heard the news about Magic.

Stan
From: jblixt@neon.cdc.com (Jon Blixt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Interesting perspective on Magic/HIV
Date: 5 Oct 92 00:56:01 GMT
Reply-To: jblixt@mips.COM (Jon Blixt)
Organization: People fed up with politicians, not politics

In article <1992Oct01.202631.16276@brtph560.bnr.ca} markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205) writes:
}Yesterday in USA Today, Peter Vescey wrote an article concerning Magic's
}return to the NBA with regards to his AIDS infection.
}
}With Magic returning to the NBA looking in prime condition, the hard-headed 
}kids who are finally beginning to get the message on how bad AIDS can be, 
}might get the wrong idea.
}
}He said considering the return and Magic's recent voluntary detachment from
}the President's AIDS council, it's as almost as if Magic doesn't even have
}AIDS.
}
}These are not my words, nor my opinion, but you have to admit, it isn't
}that unreasonable of a statement.
}
}I hope our kids are smarter than 'Magic doesn't look so bad, so what's
}the big deal?'
}
}-- 
}Andrew W. Markham (markham@bnr.ca)
}Bell Northern Research, Inc.

I disagree.  Magic's contraction of the HIV virus is going to be an issue
in every game that Magic plays.  Not only will the kids and parents come
to understand HIV is not AIDS, but they will also be constantly reminded
their hero is a vunerable human being due to a terrible disease.

Finally,  and let me say I am the last person on Earth who wants this to
happen,  should Magic actually develop AIDS from the HIV virus people
will once again be forced to see the actual truth about a disease.  This
will continue to improve the education of our youth on problems very 
real to them and their future.

-Jon
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From: sbulmahn@yoyodyne.ncsa.uiuc.edu (scooter)
Subject: new Bulls moves -- I'm not convinced
Reply-To: sbulmahn@yoyodyne.ncsa.uiuc.edu (scooter)
Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:08:31 GMT

By now, I'm sure that all Bulls fans have heard about:
1.  Cliff "News" Levingston is playing in Europe next year.  The Bulls let
	him go, saying his services were not needed for next year
2.  Bulls got Rodney McCray in a deal involving ex Ok. St. standout
	Byron Houston.

In a sense I am really glad that they picked up McCray.  One of the biggest
weaknesses that the Bulls had is the lack of a backup for Scottie Pippen.
But I am not so sure about letting Cliff go.  Not only in terms of his
involved, physical play.  But Cliff is always the "spiritual leader" on
the court.  

There is a lot to be said about hard working, blue collar players.  Cliff
is one of them.

Anyone know any more info behind all this.  Such as salary cap problems,
etc?

Scott


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From: robart@agora.rain.com (Robert Barton)
Subject: Earvin Johnson returns
Organization: Organization
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 10:40:59 GMT


  After keeping reporters waiting for 20 minutes, Earvin Johnson
(once known as Magic) announced that he has received permission
from his wife Kooky to return to the Los Angeles Lakers for the
1992-93 season and play in games against selected opponents.

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From: cmgrawbu@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER M GRAWBURG)
Subject: Go Magic!!
Originator: cmgrawbu@c00414-313mn.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: cmgrawbu@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER M GRAWBURG)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:03:04 GMT


Go Magic, Go Magic, Go!!!!!
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oGo Magic!!!
 Magic!!!
Go Magic!!!
Go Magic!!!


Chris
From: jblixt@neon.cdc.com (jon blixt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Fantasy League
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:06:00 GMT
Reply-To: jblixt@mips.COM (jon blixt)
Organization: Your Organization Goes Here

Hi all.  I have been waiting for posts from leagus interested in
having new owners, so far there have been none.  Maybe it is still
early.  Anyway, I might be interested in running my own but I have
some limitations.  First, is there current weekly stats I can get
via FTP?  I did a league a couple of years ago using newspapers, no fun.

Also, I will be returning to school in January and am not sure if I 
will be able to keep up.  A good arrangement might be a half/year split
with someone else, any takers?

I would also appreciate any comments from other owners on how they get
stats and calculate scoring in different leagues.  Feel free to include
formulas for comparing the different categories(pts,rebs,ass,stl,blk).

Please don't respond yet saying sign me up as this is only an information
gathering post.  With any luck, I will perhaps ask for signups sometime
next week.

Thanks in advance.

Wolf fan hoping some player will be in the top ten of something,

Jon Blixt       address:  jblixt@mips.COM  or
                          jblixt@neon.aqeng.cdc.com
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Nets don't match, Terry Mills -> Pistons officially!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:07:14 GMT

rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith) writes:
>BTW, Terry was rated #2 in the country out of highschool behind another
>disappointment, JR Reid. Mills spent his whole college career being 
>expected to produce and not doing. As a sophomore they chalked it up
>to rust because he sat out his first year because of rop 48. As a junior
>they chalked it up to his weight. His senior year was by far his best,
>but it wasn't anything special.

	If U think about it -- who in that HS class really has made
	anything of himself?  Some other people from that HS class I can
	think of are:  Rex Chapman, Fess Irvin, Earl Duncan, Stevie
	Thompson, Brian Oliver, Brian Howard...  Each may have had decent
	college careers -- but pro-wise?

	Jazzy J
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From: markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205)
Subject: Re: Magic Johnson
Organization: Bell Northern Research Inc.
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 12:51:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.234832.11965@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei) writes:
>In article <97308@bu.edu> sheyn@csa.bu.edu (Igor Sheyn) writes:
>>
>>I remember a couple of years ago Lakers  ( Riley ) were fined by NBA
>>for sitting out 2 starters, Magic and Worthy during the last ( unimportant)
>>game of the season. Those game when Magic will not play, it will be considered
>>sitting out a starter. How does that goes with NBA policy?
>
>Well, Riley was fined because he rested them when they were just tired
>and not injured.  Magic's condition can be called along the terms of a season
>long injury, and more importantly, fans know it.  That last game was against
>Portland I think, a match up between the two top teams in the Pacific and
>the fans paid to see the stars.  Imagine how pissed you would be if you
>went to a game and saw two important stars sitting out without being in a
>cast of some sort...

Imagine how pissed you would be if you went to the last game of the season
and saw Magic break his leg during some freak accident, when the game didn't
really matter in the first place and Riley wanted to rest Magic and Worthy
(as well as protect them from possible injury).

I am not sure that Riley is/should be particularly concerned with what you 
(referring to the 'you' in the "if you went to a game" scenario) want.  

-- 
Andrew W. Markham (markham@bnr.ca)
Bell Northern Research, Inc.
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From: terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong)
Subject: Re: What the hell happend to the CAP! (Re: Mag
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 00:32:31 GMT

In article <lco92bINNlt7@cronkite>, andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM (Andy Knipp SE Andersen) writes:
|> In article 18033@ennews.eas.asu.edu, koehnema@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Harry Koehnemann) writes:
|> > In article <1992Oct02.123623.26492@brtph560.bnr.ca> markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205) writes:
|> 
|> >    
|> > That's the best they should have been able to do.  Where the Hell is 14.6M
|> > come from.  That's more than the Cap for any single team, isn't it?
|> > This thing is a complete pile of shit.
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> If Magic was a free agent,  the Lakers could sign him to any contract they need
|> to retain his services.  
|> 

|> ---
|> Andy Knipp                    |

Magic was not a free agent.  He was still under contract to the Lakers.
If Magic had been a free agent, then since the Lakers were already above
the $14 million cap, the most they could have offerred Magic would be the
league minimum of about 140,000.  What you have to keep in mind is that
the salary cap limits the signing of free agents and draft picks.  It has
no effect on the players a team already has under contract.

				terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU
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Subject: testing please ignore
From: system@fallout.lonestar.org
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:46:15 CST
Organization: DECUS DFWLUG BBS *Dallas*TX*

Testing please ignore
From: edrury@3cpu.rain.com (Ed Drury)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: johnson
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:28:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: 3cpu.4280
Reply-To: edrury@.UUCP (Ed Drury)
Organization: Garden Lane Software

In article <s915071.718338248@otto> s915071@otto (Kevin HARKNESS) writes:
>did magic johnson really catch AIDS from michael's dirty butt!

 No, he caught it from your dirty mouth. Now shut up before you infect
someone else.

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From: cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: What the hell happend to the CAP! (Re: Magic signs $14.6M)
Date: 4 Oct 92 20:51:21 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

goedde@ellipse.mps.ohio-state.edu (Chris Goedde) writes:
>What the cap has done is make trading very hard, which makes it
>difficult for the smart gm's to take advantage of the stupid ones.
>Also, even the most stupid now realize the value of very high draft
>picks.  Protect the stupid from themselves, and you have parity.
>
>chris
>goedde@shape.mps.ohio-state.edu



I believe there's more to it than this.  If I'm not mistaken
(somebody please confirm my facts), Bill Russell was drafted
something like 6th overall, because five teams didn't feel they
could afford his salary.  This led to the greatest dynasty in modern
professional sports.  Similarly, Houston let Philadelphia get Moses
Malone, because they couldn't afford his salary; this led to a
championship for Philly.  And if an historical ignoramus like myself
can come up with these two examples, there must be dozens more.

Tony
From: ghc@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gary Cheng)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Lakers
Date: 6 Oct 1992 20:59:34 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

    Let's not forget the recent draft pick of Anthony Peeler.  He was 
    considered a top 10 talent until his latest run in with the law
    before the draft.  The best thing for him was to be drafted by
    a great organization and Jerry West believes he could turn out
    to be a great player, and perhaps the steal of the draft.

    Peeler himself is a great scorer and will probably be used more
    extensively than most of the previous Laker rookies because
    he will add the dimension of speed and scoring, initiating and
    finishing the fast break offense, something Pfund wants to
    implement this year.  He should definitely provide the Lakers
    with a definite scoring pop, a more versatile player than Scott,
    who I feel will eventually be phased out.

    Well , that's my $0.02 worth 

     BTW, does anyone know when training camps start.
From: edrury@3cpu.rain.com (Ed Drury)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Blazer Report
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:34:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: 3cpu.4274
Reply-To: edrury@.UUCP (Ed Drury)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Garden Lane Software


 Minor correction to my early post. I typed in Robert Pack as one of
 the Blazers who had been taking part in the fall camp workouts, but
 he has not been there. Pack is unsigned and a restricted free agent
 so he has not been working out with  the team.  I'm not sure if  he
 will be signed to an offer from another team. I don't know what the
 interest in him is. 
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From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Re: Rodman Trade Roumor
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 20:05:19 GMT

EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
>koehnema@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Harry Koehnemann) writes:
>>
>>(I know, I mentioned that P word again.  I'm just hoping Ed Lor's on
>> vacation or his Internet feed is down or something)
> 
>I think Ed is really a Laker's fan who doesn't like fans who lie or boast
>without facts to back them up. But I could be wrong. :)

You are both wrong. Ed is a Celtics fan!

>--Eric

    --mack
From: jblixt@neon.cdc.com (Jon Blixt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Underestimating the Lakers, again
Date: 5 Oct 92 00:47:19 GMT
Reply-To: jblixt@mips.COM (Jon Blixt)
Organization: People fed up with politicians, not politics

In article <1992Oct01.174105.13282@brtph560.bnr.ca} markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205) writes:
}u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei) writes:
}}markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205) writes:
}}}
}}}2) The Lakers seem to be lacking in shooting and depth.
}}
}}Depth?  Here's one thing that's drastically improved.  Divac, Campbell, Worthy,
}}Perkins, Green, Magic, Scott, Threatt...8 very solid players
}
}Campbell?  Very solid?  You must be kidding.
}And Green is the only real help at the forward spots (so that puts a lot of
}responsiblity on the shoulders of Worthy and Perkins, who are having problems 
}staying healthy).
}
}-- 
}Andrew W. Markham (markham@bnr.ca)
}Bell Northern Research, Inc.

Yes the Lakers are very solid at foward.  Worthy and Perkins as a pair hold
their own against any forward pair in the league.  Notice I did not say
better so forget the flames.  As a backup, Green will be one of the leagues
best 6th men.  He has been before, and at the end of last year assumed the
role of workhorse/leader in the drive to the playoffs.  Remember this guy
started on the All-Star team.  I know he didn't deserve it, but it does say
a lot about him.  As for Campbell, he may not be solid, but he is a 
shot-blocker extroidinarre who could be a great spark off the bench.

All the way around, the Lakers are very good with fewer weaknesses than 
their primary opponents.  The only downside being that I see noone on this
team having a carreer year numbers wise to put them over the top.

-Jon

Come on back Bird; it's getting hard to hate the Celtics anymore. :^) :^)
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