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From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Series videos and Twin Peaks fan clubs...
Date: 18 Aug 92 12:09:12 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Aug17.225750.11961@ucc.su.OZ.AU>,  () writes...

} What I cannot figure out is the references to the 14 cassettes of the
} series being available in Japan. At 3 episodes per video, that's 42
} episodes.

Which suggests that each Japanese cassette contains only two episodes.
Keep in mind that because of the different scan rates between NTSC
(which is used in the US and Japan) and PAL (the UK and Oz), you can
pack a little more onto the same length of tape in PAL than you can in
NTSC.

The Japanese laserdisc boxed set is a 15-disc set with two episodes per
disc.

} How many were in the complete series, anyway? And.... I am confused as
} to how many episodes make up an American TV series. 6? 13?

There's no standard number of episodes that make up an American "series"
(or "season", as we call them). It depends on when during the year the
series starts, how well it does in the ratings, etc. A season can run
6 episodes or 13 or 22 or anything in between. To answer both of your
questions at once, the original American run of TWIN PEAKS is as follows:

1st Season: 1 two-hour pilot + 7 1-hour episodes
2nd Season: 1 two-hour episode (season premiere) + 21 1-hour episodes

(In the US, however, the last two episodes were shown combined as a
2-hour "movie".)

Total: 30 hours worth, not including the pilot, which is not released
along with the other episodes on video because the rights to it are
held by a different company.

-- 

	"She's my radiation baby.
	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
From: mcline@terapin.com (Matthew Cline)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Does Lynch act in FWWM?
Date: 18 Aug 92 06:24:18 GMT
Organization: BBS


        About David Bowie, I think I read that he would be playing a time
traveling FBI agent.

Matthew Cline
From: finlay_j@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.antagonists
Subject: <None>
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:45:12 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <1992Aug13.155344.7590@menudo.uh.edu>, edc@dna.bchs.uh.edu writes:
> 
> Excuse me, I *own* this newsgroup.  I posted the first message in it,
> and have posted 75% of all subsequent messages.  I have ran off the
> tv NAZI (who happened to know CPR), the evil underwear, the under evilwear, 
> the seductive scarecrow, and several others who attempted to usurp this
> group. You will be next.  If you want to continue, why not create an
> alt.tv.who.the.fuck.cares...
> 

Seems to me you've missed your calling. You should be running
a USENET group called alt.tv.get.a.life
From: finlay_j@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.antagonists
Subject: Re: Where's AL BUNDY?
Date: 13 Aug 92 03:42:03 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <1992Aug12.112427.3100@bnr.co.uk>, jlbell@bharh56.bnr.co.uk (John Bell) writes:
> In article <1992Aug11.104031.3560@spcvxb.spc.edu> finlay_j@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
>What the hell is the Antagonists? Never heard of it. And
>why is no-one doing a TV newsgroup for the Bundys? I mean,
>boggle my mind, people!

>> Wait till you get "citizen Smith" on your side of the water.
>> if you ever do of course.

His popularity on your side of the "water" (are we in a big
goldfish bowl or what? hello?) obviously accounts for the
diverse group of people contributing to this newsgroup
Newsgroups: alt.tv.antagonists
From: edc@dna.bchs.uh.edu
Subject: Re: Where's AL BUNDY?
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:20:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.112427.3100@bnr.co.uk> jlbell@bharh56.bnr.co.uk (John  
Bell) writes:
> In article <1992Aug11.104031.3560@spcvxb.spc.edu> finlay_j@spcvxb.spc.edu  
writes:
> >What the hell is the Antagonists? Never heard of it. And
> >why is no-one doing a TV newsgroup for the Bundys? I mean,
> >boggle my mind, people!
> >>
> >> Wait till you get "citizen Smith" on your side of the water.
> >> if you ever do of course.


Please cease and desist.  This newsfroup has officially won an award
from the IAOC as "the official silent newsgroup of the 1994 Winter
Olympics", and all of this traffic puts that award in Jeopardy.

Thank you very much, and may Jai Alai Kimovitch bless and smoke your
salmon.

<ESC>
--
..You either kiss the future or the past goodbye...
                          -- Ringo Starr (written by O'Deherty / Velez)
From: finlay_j@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.antagonists
Subject: Re: Where's AL BUNDY?
Date: 13 Aug 92 09:55:46 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <1992Aug12.162008.20821@menudo.uh.edu>, edc@dna.bchs.uh.edu writes:
> Please cease and desist.  This newsfroup has officially won an award

So you just thought you'd look in and see what you were
missing, huh? Well butt out, 'cause this is a private newsgroup
(not a newsfroup) between me and the other guy.
Newsgroups: alt.tv.antagonists
From: edc@dna.bchs.uh.edu
Subject: Re: Where's AL BUNDY?
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:53:44 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.055546.3585@spcvxb.spc.edu> finlay_j@spcvxb.spc.edu  
writes:
> In article <1992Aug12.162008.20821@menudo.uh.edu>, edc@dna.bchs.uh.edu  
writes:
> > Please cease and desist.  This newsfroup has officially won an award
> 
> So you just thought you'd look in and see what you were
> missing, huh? Well butt out, 'cause this is a private newsgroup
> (not a newsfroup) between me and the other guy.

Excuse me, I *own* this newsgroup.  I posted the first message in it,
and have posted 75% of all subsequent messages.  I have ran off the
tv NAZI (who happened to know CPR), the evil underwear, the under evilwear, 
the seductive scarecrow, and several others who attempted to usurp this
group. You will be next.  If you want to continue, why not create an
alt.tv.who.the.fuck.cares...


Thank you very much,
<ESC>
--
..You either kiss the future or the past goodbye...
                          -- Ringo Starr (written by O'Deherty / Velez)
From: salisbur@chilliwack.cs.washington.edu (Mike Salisbury)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: New episode, Wed., 8-12-92
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:23:14 GMT
Organization: University of Washington CS&E


Am I seeing things that don't exist, or was there a distinct takeoff
of Twin Peaks in last night's episode.  I'm referring, of course, to the
whole FBI storyline.  It just seems too coincidental to have several 
wilderness-type scenes, a dead blonde girl, and an abrasive FBI agent
in charge.  Am I just experiencing Twin Peaks withdrawal symptoms?

-- Mike Salisbury
salisbur@cs.washington.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: mzabel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Zabel)
Subject: Shatner Imitation
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:05:48 GMT

     George was way out of character in an awful lot of scenes
in the last episode.  Did you notice the blatant imitation of
Shatner as Captain Kirk?  He did that backstage with George
Wendt and Corbin What's His Name.
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: dfo@csi.compuserve.com (Duane Ott)
Subject: Re: disappointment with season opener
Organization: CompuServe Incorporated
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 23:27:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.181040.5322@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> pwy6d@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (The terminalator) writes:
>
>The name of the episode was "The Corbamite Maneuver," but was that
>really him?  I thought they had a midget (vertically challenged
>person) playing that role.   It seems like if that was Howard, he
>would have had to have been a kid to have pulled that off.
>

Of course he was a kid...it was 1966 fercryinoutloud.

Note that the adult-sounding voice of Balok was (very obviously) dubbed in...
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: boyken@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Karl Boyken)
Subject: Re: What IS with Jerry?
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:08:47 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., U. of Iowa

In article <1992Aug15.155341.27448@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
mzabel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Zabel) writes:

> 
>      You noticed this too, huh?
> 
> >BUT...there's an element of the show that drives me nuts...and that is
> >Seinfeld himself.  Everybody else on the show is GREAT, but what's with
> >Jerry...does he need some acting lessons or what.  I have 2 theories on
> >why Jerry never seems to meld into the scenes like the other characters:
> 
> >(1) He's a stand-up comic and used to playing to the audience (of course
> >this hinges on whether the show is taped in front of a live audience
> >which I'm not sure of).  Therefore he never seems to be able to forget
> >that this isn't real-life, he's trying to ACT like himself and it just
> >isn't natural.  Its supposed to be HIS life and yet I BELIEVE this is
> >the life of all the other characters EXCEPT for him.  He kind of yells
> >his lines in that strange sing-song monotone of his.
> >
> >(2) The other theory is that his style of acting is SUPPOSED to be obvious
> >because we know this is Jerry Seinfeld playing himself.  This is an annoying
> >concept...we get the joke already.  I would prefer that Jerry play a
> >character with another name who also just happens to be a stand-up comic.
> 
>      I heard Jason Alexander interviewed on "Fresh Air", and he
> talked about this problem exactly.  Essentially he copped out and
> said that it used to drive him crazy that Jerry couldn't act, but
> now he thinks it works as part of the show.  Now, I have two
> theories about THAT statement.
> 
> 1. It's true (?hmmmmm?)
> 
> 2. Jerry said, "Look Jay, you can quit complaining and work on
>    this show, OR you can further you career by doing a few more
>    of those wonderful Western Union commercials.  Now what's it
>    gonna be?"
> 
>      I guess the official line is that he is SUPPOSED to be
> obvious.
> 
> -Mark

[...]

The show works for me.  It's in a long line of comedies in which a comedian
plays himself, going way back to the 50s--Jack Benny, Burns and Allen, Lucy
and Desi Arnaz, on up through the Gary Shandling Show.  Not all of these
people were great actors, but they did give us a lot of laughs.

*****        _My_ views, no one else's--except those I plagiarize         *****
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From: rons@hardy.u.washington.edu (Ronald Schoenberg)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: disappointment with season opener
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:20:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Aug20.124124.14203@ryn.mro4.dec.com> amm@rtpvl1.enet.dec.com (anita magenheim) writes:
>
>I never noticed it before last night's episode, but has there always been a 
>laugh track for scenes not filmed in front of the studio audience?? (Personally,
>I hate 'em.)  
>

The laugh track drove me crazy.  If they use it any more I won't be able to
watch it.  I don't understand why laugh track are so awful, or why anybody
uses them.  I'm not able to watch any other sitcoms because of their laugh
tracks - they make my head hurt.
From: tmcdonal@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Tom McDonald)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: Jerry's Jock
Date: 21 Aug 92 23:12:38 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <BtCL0L.E7A@acsu.buffalo.edu> v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek) writes:
>
>if you've ever see the film _This Is Spinal Tap_, the same thing happens 
>to Derek Smalls at the airport. turns out he had a cucumber wrapped in 
>tin foil tucked into his pants for, erm, show.

'Trouser make-up' is the term they used on Arsenio.

						-Tom
-- 
Okay, one more time.  This is your brain. (egg)
This is your brain on drugs. (egg in frying pan)
Any Questions?
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: markco@cabezon.uucp (Mark Collins)
Subject: Kramer's first name revealed??
Organization: Logic Modeling Corporation of Beaverton Oregon
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:39:52 GMT

Am I the only one who noticed that in the first (post-olympic) 
epsiode the security guard at the gate yelled 'hello' to the 
driver of the convertible that crashed through the barricade 
without stopping? 
I assumed this was Kramer (couldn't see the driver even on 
video replay)  based on the previous scene (can't remember 
exactly the tie-in now). Anyway the guard said "Hello, 
Michael". Is this a reference to Kramer's first name? 

*********************************
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Logic Modeling Corporation.
---------------------------------
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: heff@ki.ch.apollo.hp.com (God of Thunder)
Subject: Re: New episode, Wed., 8-12-92
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:37:36 GMT
Reply-To: heff@ki.ch.apollo.hp.com (God of Thunder)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories


> The cop's hand covered up the spot where Kramer's first name would be.  And
> there was some sort of clever way to not reveal the first name when Jerry

It's worse than that, even.  In the shot where we can read the writing on
the page, the cop's hand covers his first name, but when the camera backs off,
we see that the page has been torn in about the right place to 
remove the part of the page that would have his first/middle names.



Jeff Oesterle

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Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: whitlock@dcss.mcmaster.ca (Jeremy Whitlock)
Subject: Twin Peaks allusions.
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:36:59 GMT

Did anyone else notice that the Smog Strangler was (according to the 
newscaster at the end of Part II) connected to a series of murders "in
the northwest"?  I'd say this confirms the intention to allude to Twin
Peaks.

-- 
Jeremy Whitlock                 "My thoughts are mine, not Mac's"
Dept. Engineering Physics
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada  
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: moc@bnl.gov (Mike O'Connor)
Subject: Re: part II show
Reply-To: moc@bnl.gov
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:24:52 GMT


> I don't get it. How could you watch it?

In my best Seinfeld whine.

Whaaaaaaats to get?????:-)

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From: amm@rtpvl1.enet.dec.com (anita magenheim)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: disappointment with season opener
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:19:07 GMT
Reply-To: amm@rtpvl1.enet.dec.com (anita magenheim)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Clint Howard... That's the ticket!  He is definitely NOT a handsome guy.  He
also played a fish cleaner whom Michael Keaton (Batman) had to work alongside,
in a short film made for a David Letterman Filmfest.  He plays unsavoury types...

Jerry was in the "Living" section of the News & Observer (Raleigh) today, talking
about he was "benignly ignored" as a child, how he bombed the first time he did
a routine, and how he's "made it", with a home in the Hollywood Hills, an 
apartment overlooking Central Park, and three Porsches.  Not bad for a guy from
Massapequa, Long Island.

--
Anita Magenheim
DEC, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"Too many times we stand aside, And let the waters slip away;
 'Til what we put off 'til tomorrow, Has now become today.
 So don't you sit upon the shoreline, And say you're satisfied;
 Choose to chance the rapids, And dare to dance the tide..."

			- "The River", by Garth Brooks
From: basiji@milton.u.washington.edu (David Basiji)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: New episode, Wed., 8-12-92
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:06:27 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

dp35@mc1adm.UWaterloo.ca (Greg Moore) writes:

>In article <1992Aug13.171950.8951@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> kdontas@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Chris Eccleston) writes:
>>	On the season premiere, didya notice the cover to
>>Kramer's script which was found on the dead girl's body ?
>>	It was torn, but it had 'Kramer' typed on it as if it
>>was a last name.
>>	Hmmm...

>No flame intended, but you guys are toooo anal!

No way, aye!  I sensed a distinct zaniness in last night's episode that's
been absent previously.  I think the writers are starting to really have
fun with the different characters' fans and Kramer's fans just happen
to have latched on to the mystery of his name.  It's a symptom of really
good production that there's communication, not just monologue, with the
audience.  Maybe the writers will slip up and we'll be able to piece it
together.  Personally, I'm all right with the single name but I believe
it's actually his last name.  I hope there are more in-jokes that reward
the attentive viewer.  I loved the way Kramer toppled Fred Savage's table
and they both had a really good sense of comedic play.

Dave "It's been a long time since I really liked a TV show" basiji

-- 
David Basiji 
"C neophyte, Bioengineering Grad Student, Internet Personality"

email: basiji@u.washington.edu          
NeXTmail: basiji@larry.pathology.washington.edu

		"Whining is just anger coming out of a very small hole."
            --Stuart Smalley
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From: mweil@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Marty D Weil)
Subject: Re: Seinfeld's pink triangle
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:09:40 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.195203.19257@sei.cmu.edu> bjz@sei.cmu.edu (Barbara Zayas)
 writes:
>
>If this has been discussed before, my apologies.
>
>Is there any significance to the inverted pink triangle that
>appears in the Seinfeld logo?  I'm curious as to whether it's
>a statement in support of gay/lesbian/bisexual groups.
>

ya know, i always sorta had this feeling that jerry might be gay.  either
that or just a total geek.  he has always seemed to avoid questions about
relationships.  boy, this is really going to get people going.  anyone
have any facts on this?
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From: mzabel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Zabel)
Subject: What IS with Jerry?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 15:53:41 GMT

     You noticed this too, huh?

>BUT...there's an element of the show that drives me nuts...and that is
>Seinfeld himself.  Everybody else on the show is GREAT, but what's with
>Jerry...does he need some acting lessons or what.  I have 2 theories on
>why Jerry never seems to meld into the scenes like the other characters:

>(1) He's a stand-up comic and used to playing to the audience (of course
>this hinges on whether the show is taped in front of a live audience
>which I'm not sure of).  Therefore he never seems to be able to forget
>that this isn't real-life, he's trying to ACT like himself and it just
>isn't natural.  Its supposed to be HIS life and yet I BELIEVE this is
>the life of all the other characters EXCEPT for him.  He kind of yells
>his lines in that strange sing-song monotone of his.
>
>(2) The other theory is that his style of acting is SUPPOSED to be obvious
>because we know this is Jerry Seinfeld playing himself.  This is an annoying
>concept...we get the joke already.  I would prefer that Jerry play a
>character with another name who also just happens to be a stand-up comic.

     I heard Jason Alexander interviewed on "Fresh Air", and he
talked about this problem exactly.  Essentially he copped out and
said that it used to drive him crazy that Jerry couldn't act, but
now he thinks it works as part of the show.  Now, I have two
theories about THAT statement.

1. It's true (?hmmmmm?)

2. Jerry said, "Look Jay, you can quit complaining and work on
   this show, OR you can further you career by doing a few more
   of those wonderful Western Union commercials.  Now what's it
   gonna be?"

     I guess the official line is that he is SUPPOSED to be
obvious.

-Mark




>
>Also, there is that parody thing they keep trying and which just doesn't
>seem to work.  You know, like when Jerry was grilling the fat guy (name?)
>Dragnet-style outside his apartment, or the angry cop schtick of the
>this weeks episode, and the way the Tonight Show stuff was so fake seeming.
>I know the fake aspect of the Tonight Show bit was probably intentional,
>they know we know it wasn't real, so they're trying to do some sort of
>in-joke takeoff on the whole thing.  It would be a great idea if it was
>funny, but to me it just doesn't work.  I'm sitting there trying to
>laugh but instead feeling that its just kind of lame.
>
>I also agree that the show's success hinges on the NYC element.  The
>ideosyncracies of George and Kramer are funny and endearing in the
>context of that environment whereas they just seem like some kind of
>sad loosers out in la-la land.
>
>Anyway, despite these small complaints let me reiterate that I think the
>show is great and I hope they don't tinker with it too much in the future
>...other than Jerry's acting lessons that is  :-)
>
>Whadda you think?
>
>--Cea
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: mzabel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Zabel)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Jock
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:47:51 GMT

>>> While watching the season opener, I noticed that when Jerry was "scanned"
>>> by the hand-held metal detector at the airport, the pitch of the
>>> beep raised as the detector passed by Jerry's crotch.
>
>>GEESH PEOPLE!!!  Get out more!  Do you live in the 20th century?  You people
>>must not get a single joke on SNL...
>
>GEESH Yourself!!! (brilliant comeback as usual)
>
>Not everything (oh, I don't want to say it but I have to...) on Seinfeld
>is a joke!!   The scanner probably just detected the steel in the zipper of
>Jerry's pants, and I don't think it was meant to be funny.

GEESH??!?!?  Oh well, now you will get the true explanation of that
bit.  It was an allusion to a scene in the movie "This is Spinal Tap."
The bassist, Derrick Smalls, had a cucumber wrapped in aluminum foil
stuffed into his trousers and was stopped at the airport.  Actually,
there are several references in The Bible pointing out a similar
experience that Sampson had.  That Seinfeld - Deep!  Glad to be of
help.

-Mark
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