From: kimple@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Speaker question, sound good?
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:32:00 -0600
Organization: Muskingum College

In article <1at0qhINN4ke@gap.caltech.edu>, franko@cco.caltech.edu (Frank Filipanits) writes:
> Regarding the question of loading a 2x10 cabinet...
> 
> Much has been posted, some relative, aome not.  Some accurate, some not.
> I will try to address your initial questions and ignore the rest.

thanx
> 
> If you're looking to load a 2x10, see if you can find some aluminum cone
> speakers like the Hartkes.  I found JALs for $16 apiece that sounded
> great when installed in a Fender 2x10 cab.  Things to look for are frequency
> response and impedance:  you want something like 50-4000 Hz. and either
> 4 or 8 ohms.  If you get 4's, wire them in series.  If you get 8's (better)
> wire them in parallel.  You will almost certainly get more power out of
> your amp using paralleled 8's.

Where'd you find the JAL'S? Anymore?!? Yeah, I know wiring rel well...I'm a 
broadcast engineer, and do alot of work on my guitar stuff.

> 
> Now realize your bass response is not going to be great out of a 2x10 cab,
> no matter what speakers you put in... If you play jazz or funk, that may not
> be an issue, but don't expect it to pump out the low D in "Dr.Feelgood".

No, I' didn't really...see, since we go direct to the board as well, the Bass
amp serves mainly as a stage monitor. So, the PA may fill out alot. And other
than that, i'ts just practice and noodle at home.
I also record bass direct.


> 
> Highs will not be your problem with a 2x10 cab, properly loaded.
> You do not need a horn with 10's.  It is a gimmick.  'Nuff said.

Okay. Kinda thought so, but being primarily a guitar-dude, I am not real
familliar with many bass cabients. Yeah, i've done all my guitar cabients.
> 
> Scorpions (Peavey) may be a decent choice for speakers.  The Black Widows
> (which are excellent 15 & 18s) do not come in 10", at least as of this spring.
> I have never heard a bass cab loaded with celestions that didn't sound like a
> guitar cabinet.  You may wish to consider some speakers from Parts Express if 
> you are on a budget.  One to consider would be 
> 	#294-080	BBC 10" cast, 44-5000 Hz, 8 ohm, 93 dB/W/m
> 			$82.50 ea.
> 	#290-094	Pioneer 10", 30-3000 Hz, 8 Ohm, 100W, 96 dB/W/m
> 			$41.50 ea.
> I have some similar 15" pioneers in 2-way cabinets and am VERY pleased with
> the sound quality.  Your mileage may vary.  PE is at 1-800-338-0531.
> 
> I acheived a very pleasing sound using aforementioned 2x10 with aluminum JALs
> in combination with a Peavey 2x15 powered by a Peavey head.  The 10s by
> themselves lacked the kick-you-in-the-chest WHUMP that I like as part of
> my sound.
> 
> I would bring my rig to a competent store and audition some pre-built 2x10s by 
> themselves to make sure you won't miss the bottom end.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> -- 
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> Frank Filipanits Jr.    B.S. EE/Music, California Institute of Technology '92
>>><< Go 'canes! >><<       M.S. Music Engineering, University of Miami    '94  
> franko@alumni.caltech.edu   "I ain't evil - I'm just good lookin'..." A.Cooper


Thamks...the cabinet is currently loaded with 2-10's from an SVT cabinet. They
are 32 ohm jobs = 16ohms in the cabient. It sounds good, but my poweramp
wants to see 8 or 4 ohms, and doesn't get loud into 16. It sounds good,
but just not loud enough. So,I am hppy with the cab, but nedd different
speakers.
Now, If I had an SVT cab with the rest of them puppies in there, no prob....

jd
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