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From: HURH@FNAL.FNAL.GOV (Patrick Hurh)
Subject: Help w/ hi-rez graphics & scrolling hi-lites
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Organization: Fermi Lab
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:04:42 GMT

I've got a few questions saved up for this newsgroup:

1)  If I use transparent buttons to create hi-lited text fields, can I
scroll these fields?  When I try to, the button redraws over the text field
for each line scrolled as a black rectangle....I just thought of
something..maybe if I put the button in the bg?

2)  I've got a 24 bit board in my II CI.  I understand that HC uses its own
draw routines and that in order to display pictures with millions of colors
I need to use 32 bit QuickDraw.  Soooo... How do I use HC and display 24
bit picts? (and kepp my visual effects..etc..)  Is there a xcmd or glue
routine that will check for 24 bit capability and then switch the comp from
256 to millions, display the pict and then switch back to 256 when the
viewer is done looking?

3)  Where and how do I buy the QuickTime XCMD?

4)  Is there a FAQ for this group?

Thanks in advance,             Patrick.
From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Sending arbitrary AppleEvents to other applications
Date: 29 Jan 93 16:58:25 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1993Jan27.191358.21956@nwnexus.WA.COM>, phaedrus@halcyon.com (Mark Phaedrus) writes:
>      I'm trying to use HyperCard 2.1 to prototype an interface to an
> AppleEvent-driver background application, and I'm running into problems.
> I'd been told that HyperCard could send and receive arbitrary AppleEvents
> (events with multiple parameters stored under various keywords), and I can see
> from the documentation how I would go about receiving such events (using an
> appleEvent handler, requesting data by keyword), but I don't see any mention
> of how to construct such multiple-keyword AppleEvents to send to other
> applications.  Do I need to use an XCMD or XFCN for this, and if so could
> someone point me towards one?

Yes, you need to do it with XCMDs or XFCNs. There are in fact more than one
set of these around. There's one extensive set done by Edmund Lai at Apple,
that lets you make individual AppleEvent Manager calls to construct and send
an AppleEvent. I'm not sure if this is available on the net anywhere.

I've got a set similar to this. Actually, at the time I wrote it, I didn't
know what Ed Lai had done. But having seen his code (on one of the developer
CDs), I think mine is a little easier to use, because I pass around AppleEvent
descriptors as literal hex strings, instead of pointers to blocks of memory.
This simplifies memory management (HyperCard takes care of all allocation/
disposing of strings!), but it is admittedly slower converting descriptors
back and forth between formats all the time.

Would there be much interest if I were to make my externals available on the
net somewhere? You do really have to read the AppleEvent Manager chapter in
Inside Mac VI in order to use them properly, but I've found them useful
for experimentation. For example, I've been using them with FileMaker Pro over
the last week or two to try to perform some database manipulations that are
just too hard to do from within FileMaker itself. And to learn about the
AppleEvent Object Model, while I'm at it.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: +64-7-856-2889
Computer Services Dept                     fax: +64-7-838-4066
University of Waikato            electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+13:00
From: Jon Wiederspan <jonwd@uwtc.washington.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: HyperCard 3.0 info
Date: 22 Jan 1993 18:43:49 GMT
Organization: Technical Japanese Program
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In article <1993Jan20.090059.13300@waikato.ac.nz> Lawrence D'Oliveiro,
ldo@waikato.ac.nz writes:
> I gather SuperCard stores XCMDs and XFCNs in some funny way. One or two
> people have reported trouble converting my Movie Conversion stack to
SuperCard.
> Needless to say, it works fine in HyperCard.

(assume XCMD also refers to XFCN's)
SuperCard does store XCMD's in a different way from HyperCard.  While it
is superior in terms of moving XCMD's in and out of projects, there are
some XCMD's written for HyperCard which depend on being in the resource
fork of the stack.  These must be copied into the resource fork of the
SuperCard project in order to work properly.  I've never seen any notes
or books which specified how to write XCMD's so they would work properly
with SuperCard, but the notes do hint that any "properly" written one
should work.  This is, of course, the same defense Apple uses, even
though they break their own guidelines on occasion.
> 
> 
> I understand SuperCard completely lacks the new XCMD/XFCN callbacks
introduced
> in HyperCard 2.0 for handling external windows.

I believe that SuperCard 1.6 can handle the HyperCard 2.0 callbacks.
> 
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> Self-confessed SuperCard ignoramus

Jon Wiederspan
Too lazy to read the manuals and find out for sure.
From: jkalanuk@bbs.draco.bison.mb.ca (Jeremy Kalanuk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: (Q) command window beeps on return
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:40:35 GMT
Organization: The Draco Unix System [BBS]

cas@fenk.wau.nl (Cas Meyer) writes:

The problem is:
When you try to give a command through the command window
you can type in your command but when you try to execute
it by typing <return> or <enter> the mac beeps and does _not_
execute the command.
At least on one mac the problem dissapeared (by it self?).
 
Can anyone give me a hint of what might be the problem and
how to cure it?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
i don't know what the problem is, but I have suffered from the same 
delima(sp?) also.  One day after loading up Hypercard however, it just 
worked, I don't know why how, but I'm not complaining :).  My advice is 
just let it go, it will probably work itself out, as it is probably a bug 
or something..


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jkalanuk@bbs.draco.bison.mb.ca (Jeremy Kalanuk)
The Draco Unix System [BBS]

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: Eric Lease Morgan <eric_morgn@ncsu.edu>
Subject: Re: a MARC reader with HyperCard
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A78DBF3ED402184D@ericmorgan.lib.ncsu.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 28 Jan 93 16:50:06 GMT
Organization: NCSU Libraries
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 21:42:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.212930.4093@ncsu.edu> Eric Lease Morgan,
eric_morgn@ncsu.edu writes:
>Yes. I have written such a program. I call it the MARC Reader with
>Find. Below is the text of an article I wrote. This article describes
>the heart of the MARC Reader with Find.If you want the stack the mail
>me. I don't have an FTP site. One thing my program does not do is
>read strings of MARC records; my program only reads individual records.


Stupid format feature of my news reader!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: K.R.Hauge@easteur-orient.uio.no (Kjetil Ra Hauge)
Subject: How can I make Research (grep) work?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Organization: U. of Oslo
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 14:31:00 GMT

Has anybody out there made the Research XFCN (by Ari Halberstadt; housed in
a stack called Demostack, in an archive called Practical XFCNs 0.92) work?
It is designed to do UNIX-style regular expressions. When I use the "chunk"
and "global" options, it seems that it returns only the first hit as an
offset from the beginning of the container, while the following hits in the
same container seem to be reported as offsets from the preceding hit. Worse
than that, it seems to find only a part of the hits it should find in a
container.

I would like to use this XFCN for a stack of foreign-language research
materials, because it is very fast, but with these shortcomings I might
have to settle for something slower like SearchPlus XFCN. If you have used
Research XFCN successfully, please contact me by e-mail, I'll summarize to
the net.

Kjetil Raa Hauge, U. of Oslo, Norway
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David G. Simmons)
Subject: Re: Multi-part field OR selecting multiple fields
Originator: davids@feynman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:38:36 GMT


In article <1k1gos$9gl@agate.berkeley.edu>, jstern@garnet.berkeley.edu () writes:
|> In article <1993Jan24.004224.4137@netcom.com> ptrubey@netcom.com (Phil Trubey) writes:
|> >
|> >So ... does anyone know of a PD or commercial XCMD that implements
|> >a table view.  I envision this XCMD doing one of two things:
|> >
|> >- implement a field that allows multiple items of data to be placed in
|> >  a line such that each item starts at some tab boundary.
|> >
|> >OR
|> >
|> >- implement a field type that allows more than one field line to be
|> >  selected at the same time.
|> >

Rinaldi's Listoid XCMD does this multiple-line selection bit very well.
It is available at finer ftp sites near and far. Just click to select
lines, shist-click to select contiguous lines, and command-click to 
select discontiguous lines.  it even returns, on double-click, the 
text selected, as well as the line numbers selected.

|> [Judy's code deleted for brevity]

Frederic's XCMD's and XFCN's run a few $$ for licensing (high $$, IMHO),
but he *does* fiix reported bugs very quickly, and supports the externals
very well.  Well worth the $$.

-- 
David G. Simmons	"New Mexico...Land of the flea,
davids@lanl.gov 	 Home of the Plague..."
-- 
David G. Simmons	"New Mexico...Land of the flea,
davids@lanl.gov 	 Home of the Plague..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Player & QT
From: cvadsgvo@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Date: 24 Jan 93 00:00:01 PST
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvadsgvo

i am writing a stack with QT movies. However, recently i tested it with the HC
player, which is bundled with the new macs, the movie didn't play. i called
claris. the guy said my XCMD might be conflicting with QT XCMD, so i took out
my XCMD. it still doesn't work. i called again. this time a lady told me maybe
i didn't have enough memory. i am using IIsi 5/80 with 3 megs for HC. anyway, i
don't believe that and i can't test it with machine with more memory, so i am
asking for help here. by the way, the original QT XFNT stack worked well on my
machine, and my stack w/ QT works fine under full version HC.
From: gorman@acsu.buffalo.edu (Anne-Marie K. Gorman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Supercard to simulate interactive manufacturing?
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:36:48 GMT
Organization: UB

Hi all,

I will soon be needing to write an interactive simulation of a 
manufacturing system, and someone suggested SuperCard could do it.
Since I don't know any SC experts, can someone in this group
tell me whether Supercard can do the following?  I've browsed
through the manual but don't have all the answers.

1)  Create new objects while running, based on a random number generator.
2)  Drag an object across the screen, and have the location where it's
dropped be an input to the scripts.
3)  Create a file of everything that happens, along with the time it
happened.  (I'm pretty sure it can do this.)
4)  Draw one object on top of another (so that the one underneath is
partially occluded).
5)  Change the shape of an object based on some input to the script.
6)  Change the colour of an object based on some input.  (I think a
message in this group mentioned a traffic light turning from green
to red, so I gather this is possible.)

One way to look at what I'm doing is as rapid prototyping of a 
manufaturing system direct-manipulation control panel, so if anyone
has any pointers to systems other than Supercard that might be more 
appropriate, please let me know.  I couldn't find a rapid-prototyping
newsgroup.

Thanks very much!

-- 
===============================================================================
Anne-Marie K. Gorman         Sophie and Teresa are over a year old already!
Human factors/ergonomics     Time flies twice as fast when you're having
University at Buffalo        twice as much fun.
From: grub@bbs.draco.bison.mb.ca (Gordon Grieder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Hide text strings in a stack?
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:12:47 GMT
Organization: The Draco Unix System [BBS]


 In a message written on 19 Jan 93 22:42:28 GMT, broun@apple.com (Kevin 
 Broun) writes:
> 
> I'm using the Mount XCMD to mount a password-protected AppleShare server
> volume.  Can anybody out there recommend a relatively secure way to hide 
> a
> couple of short text strings (username & password) somewhere in a stack
> (maybe encrypted somehow or in a resource), where they can be retrieved 
> by
> a script that would then call the Mount XCMD?
>  
> Just putting the strings in a script and using "Protect Stack" isn't
> sufficient since many word processors can just open up the data fork of 
> the
> stack and see the scripts...  Thanks for your help!

a simple chaaracter shift system  should keep out most prying eyes;
ie- A=C  B=D  C=E....

thus ECV=CAT

(or try using ROT-13 ;-)


Keep in mind that no simple system such as this would keep out even a mildy
skilled hack.  Hypercard wasn't designed with top-notch security in mind.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: maziero@irisa.fr (Carlos Maziero)
Subject: How to update a stack ?
Organization: Irisa, Rennes(FR)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 10:32:39 GMT

-- 

Maybe this is a FAQ ...

I downloaded some freeware stacks from mac.archive.umich.edu, but when
trying to  run one of them  with Hypercard  2.1, the following message
(or something like it) was displayed: "This stack must be converted to
version 2 before using", and no more actions were enabled.  I searched
for an update option on the Hypercard  menus, but I found nothing. How 
must I proceed to do it ?

Carlos.
--------
   _qp_   Carlos Maziero   TB-110   Email: maziero@irisa.fr  Parem o mundo
    l@__o IRISA - Projet ADP        Phone: 99.84.71.96       que  eu quero
w___l...) Universite de Rennes I    Fax  : 99.38.38.32       descer !
 bb-bb    35042 Rennes cedex France Home : 99.33.78.02         Raul Seixas
From: babb@sciences.sdsu.edu (J. Babb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Serial Port XCMDs
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Date: 27 Jan 1993 23:09:00 GMT
Organization: SDSU - LARC
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: larc.sdsu.edu

I'm looking for Modem and/or Printer port XCMD/XFCNs. Thanks
Jeff
From: jkalanuk@bbs.draco.bison.mb.ca (Jeremy Kalanuk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: HyperCard Colour
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:09:14 GMT
Organization: The Draco Unix System [BBS]

In a message written on Jan 23,  Ryan_A.J._Biggs@magic-bbs.corp.apple.com 
writes,

"I was wondering if anyone knew if Claris is going to be implementing 
colour
into HC in the near future?"

I heard they prototyped HC with color, but it was too slow unless you had 
a Quadra, so the idea has been scrapped.  Probably a colorless HC 
forever.  P.S.

Greetings from Winnipeg (The land of the eternal winter, and was forced
                         to move here against my will from Calgary, city)
:)


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jkalanuk@bbs.draco.bison.mb.ca (Jeremy Kalanuk)
The Draco Unix System [BBS]

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: Jon Wiederspan <jonwd@uwtc.washington.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: SuperCard callbacks info request
Date: 22 Jan 1993 18:47:21 GMT
Organization: Technical Japanese Program
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In article <mdichter-220193101942@134.174.81.94> Mark Dichter,
mdichter@hstbme.mit.edu writes:
> I have an XFCN:
> GetStarInfo(ResType)   Returns list of resource names of given type
> 
> You would have to run it for each type (snd,ICON,CURS,XFCN,XCMD,clut)
> or I could modify it to do all 6. It is effectively 16 lines of code
and is
> set to allocate 10k for the list. If you have more resources, let me
know.
> Note: it returns the names only, the IDs weren't important for my needs.
> Again, it can be done.
> 
> Mark Dichter, MD
> mdichter@hstbme.mit.edu

Is this available for ftp?  If not, could you load it (and the code?) to
ftp.uwtc.washington.edu or to Thor's SuperCard site? Thanks!

In article <1993Jan15.153746.15386@teetot.acusd.edu> Thor Brickman,
thor@teetot.acusd.edu writes:
> This is just a reminder to the SuperCard crowd that there is an archive
> site for your use at teetot.acusd.edu under anonymous FTP.  If you have
> a project that's incredibly cool ( or even just interesting ) please
> feel free to email it my way or throw it into the incoming directory.
> 
> Thor

Jon Wiederspan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: K.R.Hauge@easteur-orient.uio.no (Kjetil Ra Hauge)
Subject: Re: Hide text strings in a stack?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Organization: U. of Oslo
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:58:14 GMT

In article <broun-190193142544@broun.apple.com>, broun@apple.com (Kevin
Broun) wrote:
> 
> I'm using the Mount XCMD to mount a password-protected AppleShare server
> volume.  Can anybody out there recommend a relatively secure way to hide a
> couple of short text strings (username & password) somewhere in a stack
> (maybe encrypted somehow or in a resource), where they can be retrieved by
> a script that would then call the Mount XCMD?
> 
> Just putting the strings in a script and using "Protect Stack" isn't
> sufficient since many word processors can just open up the data fork of the
> stack and see the scripts...  Thanks for your help!
> 
> - Kevin Broun
>   Apple Library

The latest edition of Developers' stack has the XFCN GetIt and PutIt, which
get and put a variable into a DATA resource. Rinaldi's XFCNs include
ResText, which does the same thing, only with a TEXT resource. Both to be
found at good fileservers everywhere.

Kjetil Raa Hauge, U. of Oslo, Norway
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: flowers@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Margot Flowers)
Subject: speech synthesis in hc under system 7
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 21:00:17 GMT

What do I need to do speech synthesis, via MacinTalk or other tool, in
hypercard under system 7?  Both HyperMacinTalk and MacinTalk stack
fail with error 1, and the info that came with MacinTalk stack mention
that system 7 requires some special hacks.  Does anyone have any
pointers to either hacking system 7 to make MacinTalk work, or have
pointers to alternative synthesis packages, either free or commercial?

thanks,
Margot Flowers 
Flowers@CS.UCLA.EDU 
...!(uunet,rutgers,ucbvax,randvax)!cs.ucla.edu!flowers

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: pandit@ssd.intel.com (Milind Pandit)
Subject: Re: NEW HYPERCARD USER...
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division (SSD), Intel
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 21:19:36 GMT

In article <20JAN93.16084793@shrsys.hslc.org> mitchell@shrsys.hslc.org writes:
>I am slightly familliar with MacIntosh systems, and even less vamilliar with Hypercard.  I was wondering if anyone could answer a question, (most likely the
>first of many) on Hypercard for me...  My question is, that when you want to
>have have changes made to the script that starts when the system comes on,
>where do you look for these scripts, and what word processor/text editor can
>you use to do the changes?  Please let me know....

If you double-click on the HyperCard icon, you start out in the Home
stack.  You can view and edit the scripts for the cards, backgrounds
of the stack and for the stack itself by selecting the appropriate
object from the Objects menu.  Hypercard contains its own script
editor.

-- 
Milind S. Pandit			| pandit@ssd.intel.com
Operating Systems Engineer		|
Intel Supercomputer Systems Division	| Standard Disclaimers Apply
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: vaughn@pluto.cis.udel.edu (Chris Vaughn)
Subject: Re: Problem with putting text in the middle of a field
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:55:51 GMT

I just wanted to say "Thanks!" to all the people who responded to my request
for help.  I had seven mail messages the next workday after I posted!
Sorry it has taken me so long to post this Thank You.  After clearing this
hurdle, I couldn't wait to keep going on my program.

If anyone is interested in how I finally ended up doing it, please let me
know and I'll post it.

Thanks again!
Chris Vaughn
From: Mark Platt <MPLATT@MEDUSA.UNM.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: pop up and graphics
Date: 21 Jan 1993 15:34:41 GMT
Organization: Univ. of New Mexico
Distribution: world
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X-XXDate: Thu, 21 Jan 93 15:36:34 GMT

A neophyte needs help, i am trying to put pict images in a pop up field
are there any suggestions of how to do this, I would prefer not to have
to go to another card as I am getting a huge stack already!
Thanks Mark Platt-Univ. New Mexico
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: gcm@world.std.com (Gretchen C Macdowall)
Subject: Re: Where can I get SuperCard ?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:49:07 GMT

mgupta@eng.clemson.edu (Manu_Gupta) writes:

>The subject says it all.  A telephone number would be appreciated.  I am in South
>I am totally ignorant about SuperCard (having worked only on Hypercard).  I would
>appreciate someone telling me which is the latest version and whether there is an
>upcoming new version.
   
You can get it mailorder. The latest version is 1.6. It's $195 from
MacWarehouse 1-800-255-6227. The future of the product seems kind of
unsure. There are rumors that Aldus is going to drop it. But then there
are other rumors that someone else is going to buy it ... so who knows.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: felciano@summit.stanford.edu (Ramon M. Felciano)
Subject: (Q) Merryxmas Hypertalk virus?
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0b7@nntp.stanford.edu
Organization: Stanford University Medical Media and Information 
 Technologies
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 00:21:33 GMT
Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name.

Has anyone else been infected by this stack-hopping script? Seems
relatively harmless, but eats up your stack-script space...

Thanks!

Ramon

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: bcarter@claven.idbsu.edu (Bruce Carter)
Subject: Re: NEW HYPERCARD USER...
Organization: Boise State University - CBI Product Development
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 23:20:11 GMT

In article <C1L1wo.DGy@SSD.intel.com> pandit@ssd.intel.com (Milind Pandit)
writes:
>If you double-click on the HyperCard icon, you start out in the Home
>stack.  You can view and edit the scripts for the cards, backgrounds
>of the stack and for the stack itself by selecting the appropriate
>object from the Objects menu.  Hypercard contains its own script
>editor.

None of which works, of course, if you only have the Player...
                                     <->
Bruce Carter, CBI Product Development                bcarter@claven.idbsu.edu
Simplot/Micron Instructional Technology Center       amccarte@idbsu (Bitnet)
Boise State University, Boise, ID  83725             (208)385-1851@phone