HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: trp@gtech.com (Tom R. Peterson (consultant))
Subject: Meditation and Software Development
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:05:27 GMT

Has anyone given much thought to the relationship between meditation
and focused creative processes like software development:
 - Why would it be foolish to consider such activities to be
   a substititution for meditation?
 - Should a person meditate more when a burst of such things are
   being done, or less, or is there a relationship?
 - Suzuki (Zen Mind, Beginners Mind) suggested that Westerners will
   need to find thier own way.  Is the relationship between 
   conciousness exercises and focused work activity a primary issue, 
   or is it a trap to even make this association between meditation
   and the goal of improved productivity & creativity?
I don't know much about all this, but have pondered the balance a bit...
From: andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: K E N Again
Summary: How do you pronounce van't Slot anyway???
Date: 10 Nov 92 06:24:02 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

(Amanda Vantslot) writes:
>I'm glad that my limited intelligence has been perceived by you.  
>                        A. van't Slot
>                           

Very good, Amanda.  Acknowledging that you have a problem is the first
of the 12 recovery steps.  Hangin around with Kenneth won't help your
intelligence quotient very much, however.

Say, is Quebec going to secede or not?  It might be fun to have a new
third-world North American republic.  What will be your primary exports?
Sedition and Treason?

And aren't you guys stretching the gene pool pretty thin up there in the
name of cultural integrity?  What do y'all do, import Frenchmen now and 
then to freshen it up a bit?  Too bad your ancestors weren't involved in
that program.

How am I doing?  Please rate from 1 to 10 on scale below:


1 ---- 2 ---- 3 ---- 4 ---- 5 ---- 6 ---- 7 ---- 8 ---- 9 ---- 10

:)                            :|                               >:(



-- Andy   (Flame Seal of Quality: If you're not pissed, it's free.)
From: jmb14@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: SPAM I AM, dedicated to Lara.
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:13:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Scranton

In article <1d43naINNsqc@morrow.stanford.edu>, EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara) writes:
> In article <Bx2y7q.5Gr@cmptrc.lonestar.org>,
> andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart) writes:

> really pissed off maybe we can still have some fun, even tho troll
> has woossed out on us.

* Really Lara, I am flattered that you feel the need to mention me in EVERY
SINGLE POST you make.  K E N would tell you that you are obviously obsessed
with me, or beating me.  But, just as alchemists were obsessed with turning lead
into gold for a time, they couldn't do the impossible any better than you can.
Why don't you redirect your energy to turning your abundance of shit into brains
and then maybe you can take a decent whack at me.  If anyone doubts Lara's
obsession, just note how her farewell directly follows mine and how her quick
return follows mine likewise; she just can't resist when I'm here.

						Troll
>>   -- Andy

> moi
> "rob's dog's dick's woman!"
> 
> proud of the honor :)
From: krobinso@apricot.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Kenneth J Robinson)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: K e n is K e n, And K e n Can Only Be K e n
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:33:34 GMT
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

In article <1992Nov8.153655.952@uni.edu> mglads@catbox.cc.uni.edu (Melvin Gladstone) writes:
>In article <BxD95n.JMH@cs.psu.edu>, krobinso@tealblue.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Kenneth J Robinson) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov6.162021.18726@uni.edu> mglads@catbox.cc.uni.edu (Melvin Gladstone) writes:
>>>In article <BxB602.E6L@cs.psu.edu>, krobinso@indianred.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Kenneth J Robinson) writes:
>>>>
>>>>Simple, K e n is K e n, and since K e n is K e n, then K e n is K e n,
>>>>and thus K e n is not boring, for K e n can only be K e n.
>>>>
>>>
>>>While you are correct in asserting that ken is ken, this does not
>>>preclude ken from also being boring.  Ken can be BOTH ken and
>>>boring.  Example:  4 = 4 = 3 + 1,  ken is ken is boring.  If ken
>>>is equivalent to boring, then ken can be only ken and still be
>>>boring, just as 4 can only be 4 but can be 3 + 1 as well. 
>>
>>Your theory is interesting but incorrect, for K e n is not an integer,
>>and cannot be classified by a logical symbol. K e n can only be K e n,
>>and boring is not K e n, for K e n is K e n.
>
>I did not assert that ken is an integer.  My assertion was that ken can be
>ken and also be boring.  You have already conceded that ken can be other
>things besides ken when you state that ken is informed.  You cannot
>continue using your above line of argument to show that ken cannot be
>boring while still maintaining that ken is informed.  In fact, ken is
>ken, ken is marginally informed, and ken is boring.

K e n is K e n, and K e n is not boring. That is a fact and K e n has
proven it to be. You have not brought forth any evidence to suggest
otherwise. Your argument is null. Please try again, but think
this time before posting.

K e n   R o b i n s o n
From: kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M Ryan)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Why Clinton
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:47:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b64746.student.cwru.edu

In article <1992Nov11.173856.28766@muddcs.claremont.edu> weverett@jarthur.claremont.edu (William M. Everett) writes:
>	No, I'm not feeling like a Moron. What George bush said is 'I don't 
>know that they should be' which is NOT the same thing as stating that they
>should not be. I suggest you take a reading comprehension course before
>you take off on a knee-jerk assumption again. As for my other 'stupid
>knee-jerk denials' your evidence for them is probably about as impressive
>as this, which is to say- not very. Like I said before, Get your facts 
>straight before you mouth off. This time, follow my advice.
>
>William Everett

	When the President shows evidence of his lack of knowledge about the 
Constitution, it is disgraceful for all Americans. Native born humans, who 
happen to be athiest, and who have not been convicted of certain crimes, are 
considered to be citizens of the United States. Their individual religious 
views, or their lack of religious views has no effect upon their citizenship.

	 For Mr. Bush to show even a thread of doubt of their right to be a 
citizen, only shows that he does not fully understand the Constitution.

	If you wish to dismiss this exchange between Mr. 
Bush and the reporter, fine. Anyone can selectively disbelieve any facts 
which are contra to what you have publically stated as being fact. It doesn'
t change the fact that you're being a jerk.

Organization: Sophomore, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:14:20 -0500 
From: Shiv Swarup Pathak <sp3u+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: KEN IS A DUMN FUCK.
	<BxIKzE.6C@cs.psu.edu>


Your seemingly never ending postings make my butt water.  You have got
to the the biggest egomaniac to ever use a computer (or does your
hairy-lipped, wig-wearing, zit-faced, loose-toit, unemployed prostitute
(on maternity leave) mother do everything for you?)  I'm sick of your
postings.  If I don't, you can get your hairy, puss-filled ass
(inhereted from your mother) that someone is going to beat you like a
rented mule.

Your biggest fan,

Shiv
(I have a signature.  FUCK OFF!!)



+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The opinions stated above are NOT mine.  They are my employer's.  I
cannot be held responsible.

Shiv S. Pathak
1000 Morewood Avenue
Box 3100
Pittsburgh, Pa 15213


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: ckincy@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu (Charles Kincy)
Subject: Even lamer followup (Re: lamest follow-up ever)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:39:17 GMT
X-Wanker-Yank-Award: K e n
Organization: Libertarian Taoists of America 

In article <BxIKzE.6C@cs.psu.edu> krobinso@apricot.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Kenneth J Robinson) writes:
>In article <BxGnnI.yB@cmptrc.lonestar.org> andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart) writes:
>>(Kenneth J Robinson) writes:
>>> Thus K e n, is not "slipping", for K e n has nothing to slip from.
>>>K e n   R o b i n s o n
>>
>>How true.  Kenneth's posts cannot be "slipping" into stupidity since 
>>they were already as stupid as possible.
>
>You seem to be quite misinformed, for K e n's posts are not stupid.
>They are very intelligent, for K e n has posted them, thus they must
>be. K e n is K e n and K e n does not post stupid posts, for K e n
>only posts intelligent posts, because K e n is K e n.

O!  Master of Informed-ness!  Is it not written that the K e n that
can be spoken of is not the true K e n?

Damn, you!!   You stole the real K e n and replaced it with this
blathering fool!  Where did ya put the real K e n you evil miscreant?
Argh!

cpk

>Ken Robinson

As punishment, I have stolen your spaces until you give us back
the real K e n.
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: s1070619@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (YOGI *is* N.KROENERT)
Subject: Re: One man one vote...
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 11:18:31 GMT

dhogaboo@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dennis Hogaboom) writes:

>     What the hell!!!  I will be original.



>        I VOTE FOR LARA.......
    But LARA sux!!!!!!!

        Vote for BILLY!




            The Yogster...


Newsgroups: alt.flame,talk.abortion
From: gjh@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Galen J. Hekhuis)
Subject: Re: Consensus stuff - the real reasoning
Organization: University of Virginia Health Sciences Center
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 12:53:16 GMT

}In article <s5gbeus@zola.esd.sgi.com> cj@sgi.com writes:

}>Keegie and DeMitrio disagree with you, Galen.  They think the
}>mere mention of the existence of email is a heinous crime.

I have mentioned "the existence of email" for a number of years now 
in my .signature and I have never heard of even the slightest
complaint.  Certainly not from Suzanne or James who have probably 
seen it hundreds, if not thousands of times.

}>Too bad I won't get to see their ceaseless harassment of
}>poor McBean.

I doubt anyone else will "get" to see it either.  I wouldn't
characterize it as "too bad" however.  I find little of value 
in "ceaseless harassment" or in those who fantasize about it.

--
       hang gliding mailing list: hang-gliding-request@virginia.edu 
     Galen Hekhuis  UVa Health Sci Ctr (804)982-1646 gjh@virginia.edu
                   We are the Cro-Magnon of the future!
From: ckincy@mcs213c.cs.umr.edu (Charles Kincy)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Why Bush? (was: Why Clinton)
Date: 13 Nov 92 04:46:05 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

In article <1992Nov12.014912.1@acad.drake.edu> vsg001@acad.drake.edu writes:
>Oh I see. You're the type that thinks because they read parts of the
>Consitiution, they understand it all. Well Mr. Dickless, sorry Mr. Dick (M)
>Less, if you had the slightest clue about the workings of government, you would
>know that the president does not interpret the Constitution, nor does he need
>to understand it. Thats what the Supreme Court is for. Gee, that's kinda
>logical isn't it! The president need only DEFEND the Constitution. I guess
>that's why in the oath, he says "preserve, protect, and defend the
>Constitution..." Nowhere is there mention of "intrepret" or "understand". It's

I do not know why I must dignify this abomination with a response.
But, for some reason, I am compelled.

Idiot, a president that suggests that people should be denied
citizenship based upon the fact that they do not believe in God
is sanctioning an official religion (theism), and he is thereby violating
the First Amendment.  This would suggest that he is neither preserving,
protecting, *nor* defending the Constitution.

>strange how you accuse President Bush of not knowing the Constitution, when you
>have yet to take your first freshman class in government.

You brainless dipshit.  Don't you know that it is impossible to defend
something that you know nothing about?  Bonehead.

I know direct you to the difficult task of extracting the corncob
from your ass.  I hope by doing so you don't get a brain hemorrhage.

cpk
From: weverett@jarthur.claremont.edu (William M. Everett)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Why Clinton
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:14:58 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711

In article <1992Nov12.171506.13096@cas.org> esp51@cas.org writes:
>Yes indeed.  Little William is yet another example of the classic
>whimpy athority worshipping conservative, who is defending
>his sacred athority figures George Felon Bush, and Dan Idiot Quayle,
>even after they've been run out of the white house like scorched rats
>from a burning ship.

	What a ridiculous stereotype you have cooked up. I suppose I shouldn't
expect much better, you probably can't fit more complicated concepts of thoughts
and motivations inside that little mind of yours.

>conservative, traditionalist, one dimentional pigs.  But for now, until
	
	Why don't you read your own post to see who is thinking one 
dimensionally? 

>you find this new nazi utopia, William, please have the courtesy to shut your
>stinking mouth.

	I see... I simply pointed out that something was not true. It seems
to me that Nazis are much more akin to somebody who attacks others for pointing
out the truth. 

>
>Scott Park
>Opinions are mine, I am not company spokesman.
	They must be glad about that.

William Everett
From: krobinso@apricot.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Kenneth J Robinson)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: K e n Is Not Boring (was Re: Aza.  Is She, or Isn't He?)
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:44:06 GMT
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

In article <1dmcorINNh2d@goldwing.ksu.ksu.edu> tilden@goldwing.ksu.ksu.edu (Tilden-Master of Illogic) writes:
>
>In article <BxB602.E6L@cs.psu.edu>, krobinso@indianred.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Kenneth J Robinson) writes:
>>In article <1dbjpcINNoub@bigboote.WPI.EDU> liz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (PostMistress General) writes:
>>>In article <Bx5vzy.208@cs.psu.edu> krobinso@tealblue.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Kenneth J Robinson) writes:
>>>>
>>>>K e n does not bore people, for K e n is K e n, and K e n can only be
>>>>K e n, thus K e n is K e n and only K e n.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Wait wait wait a minute...K e n is K e n, therefore K e n does not bore people?
>>>I'm having a problem with the logical connection between the two...
>>
>>Simple, K e n is K e n, and since K e n is K e n, then K e n is K e n,
>>and thus K e n is not boring, for K e n can only be K e n.
>>
>>K e n   R o b i n s o n
>
>Does K e n have the ability to fucking well refer to himself in the first person?

K e n can refer to K e n anyway K e n deems to.

>We know K e n is K e n, But K e n is also a fucking dipshit in the honest oppinion
>of several million people viewing this part of the net.

Perhaps you would like to post your poll of several million people.
K e n is interested in what people have to say. K e n requires information
at once.

>Also, stop trying to be Zen Budda for us and get a life K E N !!!!!!

K e n is not Zen Budda. K e n is K e n. You have been informed.

K e n   R o b i n s o n
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From: mglads@catbox.cc.uni.edu (Melvin Gladstone)
Newsgroups: alt.flame,talk.bizarre,talk.regligion.misc
Subject: Re: Colorado Amendment 2: The First Fatality
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:29:17 GMT
Organization: University of Northern Indiana

In article <1992Nov12.191640.5426@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mneeley@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark Neeley) writes:
>Newsgroups: nyx.misc,talk.regligion.misc,alt.aids.activism,talk.abortion,alt.
>+           flame,rec.humor,soc.christian,talk.bizzare
>
>I have no joke here.  I just like saying "talk.regligion.misc"
>
>	Mark

Tell us about nyx.  Do you get to hang out with bur there?

Melvin M. Gladstone
Newsgroups: alt.flame,talk.bizarre
From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: <satan>
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:24:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.162917.1913@uni.edu> mglads@catbox.cc.uni.edu (Melvin Gladstone) writes:

>Tell us about nyx.  Do you get to hang out with bur there?
>
>Melvin M. Gladstone

nyx.du.edu: home of felons (pjf) assholes (bur) and anyone who cant post
from their work machine for whatever reasons, but seemingly no actual
students of U Denver. The Australia of the net, as it were. Im surprised
Carasso didnt get an acct there.
From: jcc@frog.CRDS.COM (Jim Chagnon)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Rabbit-knowing
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:12:14 GMT
Organization: CRDS

In article <1992Nov9.162140.11877@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:

>> I dont know why you guys think being in love with a rabbit is so scandalous.
>> I have been having a very warm relationship with my rabbit for years now,
>> and it has only recently ceased to be platonic. Making love to my rabbit is
>> the warmest feeling Ive ever known. Any of you who call me weird should
>> just try it for yourself.

 ...and attributes it to:

>>Jim Chagnon  jcc@frog.UUCP

 Find a new pseudo, Dobson, that name's taken.

 You really are a crawly little maggot, tho, aren't you?  You couldn't
find anything disputable in what *I* wrote, so you make something up?

 Or did you.  The constant, vivid beastial fantasies that you pass off 
as flames reveal *much* more about you than I'd think you'd be comfortable
with.  Hint: This is the wrong group to issue your 'cry for help' to.

 Oh, and if you really want to flame unopposed, go back to flaming people
without their knowledge.  Setting distribution to rec isn't gonna do it
for you, you fucking coward.

Jim Chagnon   jcc@frog.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: THE ULTIMATE FLAME OF FLAMES
From: ooi@latcs5.lat.oz.au (Jeffrey K Ooi)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 09:08:26 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

At least I have a signature!

Which is more than I can say about Mr Aussie hater here, or do you prefer
the occasional Rodney King riot or two hmmm?  This country must be too boring 
for you!
-- 
  Jeffrey (George bush) Ooi |   Ghostrider, you're instructed to land...    
  La Trobe University       |   Land Immediately!  What're you doin' Mav?
  Australia                 |   We ain't got no fuel for this...
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: ckincy@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu (Charles Kincy)
Subject: Re: K E N Poll-Genius or Jackass?
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:46:33 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

In article <1dp3vhINNi7a@discovery.ksu.ksu.edu> tilden@discovery.ksu.ksu.edu (Tilden-Master of Illogic) writes:
>
>Ladies and Gentlemen of the Internet,
>
>	I, Tilden-Master of Illogic, Ask for your participation in my survey.
>I ask unto you, What is your of Kenneth J. Robinson? Is he the prophet he
>proclaims himself to be, or is he a scum sucking dipshit who should shut the 
>fuck up?  I shall let you decide.  Post your response here and I shall tally
>the vote.
>
>	I thank you for your time.
>
>	Tilden-Master of Illogic

You have asked, and I have responded thuswise:

[1]  Pollsters are, generally, idiots that pester you while you're trying
     to eat dinner.

[2]  Everyone already knows that KJR is a dipshit.

[3]  Occasionally, alt.flame gets inundated with newbies that think
     they're cute.

Therefore, my answer is:

I vote that you are a general ta ra ra boom dee yay and should be
beaten to death with a wild pointer and immersed in a tankful of 
segmentation faults.

I think you will find that this is the general consensus of alt.flame.
With a 0.01% margin of error, thank you very much!

cpk
From: mbur@nyx.cs.du.edu (MAC)
Subject: Re: Rabbit-knowing
Followup-To: alt.flame
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 20:38:26 GMT


Illana, here is a repost of Rob's cowardly flame of your post about your rabbit.

The following contains vulgar language, you've been warned.

Hope this helps.



In article <1992Oct29.013745.17099@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
>>wd5j@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>>
>>Darwin, my (now) 4 month old Flemish, is getting bigger every day.  I'm
>>sure his growth will be stunted a little from his horrible episode of
>>diarrhea, but anyway he's shiny and eats like a pig.
>
>Thanks for sharing, man. Really.
>
>>I'm still new at 
>>rabbit-knowing so I always wonder if his behavior is "typical", and
>
>Rabbit-"knowing". As in, Biblically knowing your rabbit? Well, I regret
>to inform you that such activity is illegal in New York State. I have
>informed the State Police. It is quite legal in college station, 
>pennsylvania, however, so drop by and ask for K E N or bruce.
>He is saying "Please wrap me in duct tape and let me explore the innermost
>sanctum of your colon."
>
>>He's such a fun guy to watch.  He's always twirling and running around tht 
>>predator, and intimidates them totally.  He's bigger than two of the cats
>>already (that's my boy!).
>
>Perhaps it is not so wise to sublimate your desire to sodomize^H^H^H^H^Hraise
>children by fucking^H^H^H^H^H^Howning a rabbit.
>
>>Right now, because of his diarrhea episode, I feed him only pellets (Agway)
>>and free choice grass hay, and he gets acidopholus in his water.  Oh, and
>>some dandelion leaves every morning with Nutrical and sulfaquinoxaline for  
>>his second-phase coccidia treatment.  And an apple twig (sorry, Michael)
>>every few days.
>
>Have you tried human flesh yet?
From: libwca@emory.edu (Bill Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Why Clinton
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:07:57 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

vsg001@acad.drake.edu writes:
: 
: Oh I see. You're the type that thinks because they read parts of the
: Consitiution, they understand it all. Well Mr. Dickless, sorry Mr. Dick (M)
: Less, if you had the slightest clue about the workings of government, you would
: know that the president does not interpret the Constitution, nor does he need
: to understand it. Thats what the Supreme Court is for. Gee, that's kinda
: logical isn't it! The president need only DEFEND the Constitution. I guess
: that's why in the oath, he says "preserve, protect, and defend the
: Constitution..." Nowhere is there mention of "intrepret" or "understand". It's
: strange how you accuse President Bush of not knowing the Constitution, when you
: have yet to take your first freshman class in government.

This is some kinda really subtle joke, right?  You ain't really
claiming that the President of the United States doesn't need
to understand the Constitution of the United States?  How's he
supposed to know if somebody's attacking it, so's he can defend
it?  Does he just watch out for creepy, furin looking cats in 
black masks carrying time bombs? Maybe he could just ask everybody
he meets if they're planning on attacking the constitution...
Bill Anderson
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