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From: niel@cars.com (Niel Bornstein)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: A new Phish phan recommends some albums
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 11:11:58 EDT
Organization: Heavy Objects R Us
Reply-To: chinchilla!niel@cars.com
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <56359@dime.cs.umass.edu> (rec.music.phish), barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) writes:
>	In case any of you fans are looking for some additional interesting
>music, here are some comments on bands that Phish reminds me of.
> ...
>	Next, there is The (Dixie) Dregs.  This 5-piece instrumental band,
>consisting of outstanding, best-in-the-world class performers, plays
>incredible instrumentals in diverse styles.  Phish reminds me of The Dregs
>because of both bands' diversity, and the sense that they are having fun
>with their music.  They differ from Phish in that the Dregs are much better
>instrumentalists, technically speaking.  (The member of Phish are also very
>talented, but The Dregs are truly "musicians' musicians.")  Every Dregs
>album is excellent -- there are no bad ones.  I recommend starting with
>WHAT IF.

The Dregs (as they are now known) were out of service for a while
but are now touring again, with a album apparently in the works.
I recommend "Industry Standard" or "Unsung Heroes."  Stay away from
"Bring 'em Back Alive", their reunion live album.

The Dregs, btw, feature Steve Morse on Guitar, a guy who unfortunately
played with Kansas for a few years, as well as Rod Morgenstein on
drums, a guy who played with Whitesnake or some other vile heavy metal
band.  But don't let that sway you; it's really good stuff.

Niel

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Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jim Petersen)
Subject: Chicago Ticket avail.
Followup-To: rec.music.phish
Organization: Chicago IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:07:10 GMT

It's looking like I'm going to have one (and possibly two, but probably
one) ticket available for the first Chicago show (12/5). Anyone want
to trade for a 12/6 ticket (which are still available)?

__________________________________________________________________________
Jim Petersen         petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu          jp@darkstar.com

       You don't need a doctor, no, to help you heal your soul
From: mmitchell@igc.apc.org (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Our Opportunity
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:56:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:1ea098INNh29@agate.berkeley.edu:2077335837:cdp:1628700023:000:1271
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!mmitchell    Nov 17 17:56:00 1992


 Bravo Shelly! As always your words of wisdom serve
as a positive example for the net to follow. I believe
as you(and others) do that this tour is a turning point
for the band and the scene ingeneral. For those of
you(and me) that are travelling to cities to see Phish,
here are some other things to remember:
     
             Brian's Tour Tips:
   
  1)Be kind to the people that are working the venue. If
    someone asks you to move out of an isle or asserts
    her/his power as a paid worker, react politely, adn
    move if you're blocking the aisle. If there is liquor
    served and you buy it, tip the wait staff generoulsy.
  2)If you see a taper, try not to make noise around the
     mics. They are there to preserve the music, not 
      chatter about how cool Mike's hair .looks.
   3)Spend money in the town of the show. If the local
     merchants see a positive influx of cash then all
      the better for the band.
   4)Tell someone about Phish (they even have this great
     computer network of devtoed, opps, devoted fans, etc.)
  5)Have a great time!
    
 These may be obvious, but I'm bored and felt like writing
something. I look forward to that first set list from
Vt! Take care of those (touring) shoes-Brian
  
brian.feller@um.cc.umich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: DJAVA@suvm.acs.syr.edu
Subject: radio
Reply-To: DJAVA@suvm.acs.syr.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:59:42 GMT

Hi there!
     This past Sunday a phriend and I were returning from
some r & r in the high peaks region of the Adirondacks
(Mount Marci for those interested) and I was flipping
around the stations to find something interesting,
(totally whacked jazz from Canada on the peak) and
there it was!! Bouncing Around The Room!!  Unfortunately,
it was very bad reception and it faded into a rap
station just as the boys were heading into YEM.
Was this the Mountain Stage show??


3  DAYS  TIL  ALBANY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                    See you there(9th row),


                                    Derek
                                    ESF

"I was driving down the road...!"
From: maggard@subpac.enet.dec.com (Jeff Maggard 18-Nov-1992 1131)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: TAPING ***IS*** ALLOWED AT ALBANY!!!!!!
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:49:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Nov18.164935.6028
Reply-To: maggard@subpac.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet


Howdy folks,

I just got off the phone with Bob Gafford (sp?) the general manager for the 
Palace Theater in Albany.  He said that taping *IS* allowed!  He said that
audio taping is allowed because Phish says it is.  He was told this morning
by the promoter that "anything but video taping is allowed."  He just told
the box office 5 minutes ago, so these people should be getting the story 
right from now on.

He also said that their concession stand will be selling soft drinks during
the show, and that the contract with the band has no pre-set time limit on
the performance

Bob asked me to ask everyone *NOT* to stand or jump on the seats in the
theater.  They have had this problem in the past, and will discontinue
concerts with specific bands and/or types of bands whose fans trash the
place.  (I have unpleasant visions of people jumping up and down on the
seats during Bouncing, Mike's Groove, etc.)  I was personally asked by Bob to 
ask everyone on the phish.net and beyond to:

PLEASE NOT JUMP ON THE SEATS!  'CAUSE IF YOU OR OTHER PEOPLE DO, PHISH WILL 
NOT PLAY THE PALACE THEATER AGAIN, EVER!

...getting it clearly through alternate paths...

- jeff
From: roek@elm.egr.msu.edu (Daniel Roek)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: The Armenian Man
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:55:42 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Michigan State University

In article <1992Nov11.224126.26232@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, brian.feller@um.cc.umich.edu writes:

|>  The artwork that accompanies the lyrics is great. The picture
|>  of Esther and the Armenian man is scary! I never knew that
|> the guy on the front of the disc(the original cover) was the
|> Armenian man, and notice he has more dolls on the shelf,
|> so there must be others who's fate was similar to Esther's.

The thing that caught my attention about that picture was that
the Armenian Man in the picture doesn't have any socks on (How
can she "cut off [his] legs and then peel off [his] socks if
[she] want[s] to?").
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "David A. Craig" <dac@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu>
Subject: bassists
Reply-To: dac@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:37:06 GMT


with all this well-deserved praise for the performing prowess of the flecktones,
and particularly for victor, i figure i just GOTTA put in a plug for tony levin
as "one-of-the-most-amazing-musicians-who-ever-lived."  since we all love phish
already i'll just keep quiet about that.....

on that thread, are there any phishheads out there who have 80's live krimson
to trade? i'd love to talk.
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "ALEK GRABINSKI, 765-2151, VERTICAL FURNACE PGM MGR" <AGRABINSKI@sc9.intel.com>
Subject: Philler / CD vs vinyl
Reply-To: AGRABINSKI@sc9.intel.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:08:12 GMT

Howdy.

Just wanted to add my 2.4 yen to the not-so-raging philler controversy.  
My philosophy has always been that philler is a good idea if the 
following guidelines can be met:

1. there is enough space on the end to actually fit it on ("no duh", as
   we so wittily proclaimed in high school)

2. the philler isn't played anywhere on the show being philled

3. the audio quality is comparable (but not much worse and not hugely
   better, as this can be a distraction)

4. THE PHILLER IS PROPERLY LABELED AS TO ITS SOURCE


Because of the advent of the HPB, this labeling can be limited to the 
date and the gen; the HPB will give you everything else.

There are a lot of older tapes out there with mixed sources or even more 
confusing natures (2/6/89? or 10/20/89?), probably because the people 
who put them together and propagated them were more interested in the 
music than the history - and hey, is that so wrong?

Semi-personal to Dan Shoop: My note regarding getting a CD player was 
more directed at somehow curbing unregulated taping of the CD, 
particularly Junta, by those sporting the lame excuse that they can't 
afford or otherwise access a CD player.  As for CD over vinyl, forget it 
- I'm not going to touch this argument with a 3-meter pole (think 
metric!).

Alek
From: Richard.S.Miyara@dartmouth.edu (Richard S. Miyara)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: NYE Tix Grovel
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:08:29 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

Althought there are sure to be a number of ticket grovels for the NYE
show, we're in need of 2 tickets.

Email :  Richard.Miyara@Dartmouth.edu
Dingalingnet :  Charlie Meding (603) 526-2446 eves
         
Hopefully Thankful
From: jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu (Jeff Althoff)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: StonyBrook gathering, Matt Laurence personal
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:46:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Nov18.174652.12612
Reply-To: jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu
Organization: The Internet


Greetings all Stony Brook bound PhishNet people!

Well, a series of changes in plans have made it possible for
me to attend the Stony Brook show, and thanks to Rich F. I 
actually have a ticket (thanks Rich!!). 

Do we want to gather? I think so.. My recommendation for a 
meeting spot is the "fireside lounge" in the Stony Brook Union. 
The Union is next to the gym on campus. If you walk in through the front 
doors (under the bridge) there's a set of double doors. i.e. 
go through the first doors, you're in a vestibule, through the
second doors, you're in the building. Immediately
to the left is a passageway leading into the fireside lounge. Simple
enough. Not a lot of amenities, but at least a place
to sit down and relax. And we can always go from there...

If you somehow manage to come in the back door of the Union
(you'll know -- the back door is off of a parking lot, it 
has an automatically opening door, and once in the Union there's
a bank of payphones on your left and the box office on your right) 
just keep walking forward. Directly in front of you are the doors 
out of the front entrance of the building. Just before that, on the
right, is the opening to the fireside lounge..

I'll try to check today to see if the union will be open on 
Saturday, I think it usually is. Anyone have any other ideas?
Is anyone going to show up? What time do people think they'll
arrive? I live about 10 minutes away, so I can show up anytime..

If you're going to SB and haven't gotten the info file I put 
together, you might want to email me for a copy. It contains 
ascii maps of the area and campus, so you can actually find the 
Union.

Personal to Matt Laurence: My email to you is going into a black
hole. I tried to send you the SB info file... please bring an XXL
PhishNet '92 shirt to SB for me if you can. Thanks..

I am so happy!!!
-- 
--------------------------------------------
Jeff Althoff    jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu
From: 891406b@ace.acadiau.ca (STEPHEN BENNETT)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Amy's Farm 8/3/91
Date: 17 Nov 92 12:47:48 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

In article <1992Nov17.075313.2194@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> Seth Mankin <mankin@icsun.sunnet.ithaca.edu> writes:
>From: Seth Mankin <mankin@icsun.sunnet.ithaca.edu>
>Subject: Amy's Farm 8/3/91
>Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 07:53:13 GMT
>Satute!
>
>        I noticed in the HPB (i've been reading it much lately)
>that the main vocal jam line is listed as "No gerbils in your
>bottom".  It sounds moe to like Trey is singing: "Don't put a
>gerbil in your bottom" while everyone else is singing "Don't put
>no gerbils in your bottom", any other comments?
>
>I realize this is a really wierd line to be commenting on, I
>won't even ask where they came up with it!
>
>                                Peace,
>                                   Galahad
>--
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>| Seth "Galahad" Mankin          | "Set the gearshift for the   |
>| Mankin@ithaca.bitnet           |  high gear of your soul!"    |
>| mankin@icsun.sunnet.ithaca.edu |                              |
>| 71233.1605@compuserve.com      |                  -Phish      |
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


    that is like the Barrymore show 91'......but it becomes `put your balls 
in the butter'!!!!!
phish on!
flipper
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Bruce Willner <brucew@phaeton.ee.cornell.edu>
Subject: Help getting to Ithaca
Reply-To: brucew@phaeton.ee.cornell.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:01:09 GMT

I've already posted directions, etc. to the Cornell show.  Since no
post is perfect I'm posting my phone number for anyone who gets lost
on Sunday.  Give me a call, and if I'm there I'll try to get you back
on the right path.  I expect to be home for most of Sunday, but you
never know what might come up.

(607)256-4003
Bruce
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: jepstein@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jonathan Epstein)
Subject: Re: slammin in the pits
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:46:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov24.012632.2452@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> herc.xaos.com!cjc@mofo.net.netcom.com writes:
>
>Joseph Dresnok III writes--
>
>| what was up with slam dancing and the formation of a pit in Colchester?
>| Just wondering
>|                 never saw one of them before...
>
>Ah, we used to slam to Phish all the time back in the Living Room in
>Providence! (But then, people would slam to They Might Be Giants in
>the Living Room... it was just that kinda place. ;-)

	Ahhh...finally..mention of the miserably grimy Living Room.
	This was my first pit! Big Black encore!

	Gotta love that black grease on the floor of the Living
	Room. I miss that place like I miss Yoko Ono.

- Jon

===================================================
|| Put it all the music...                       ||
|| 			...the Colonel           ||
===================================================
|| e-mail: jepstein@titan.ucc.umass.edu          ||
===================================================
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: ALISON <ANMORGAN@ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Directions to Bogart's
Reply-To: ANMORGAN@ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:39:55 GMT

Hadley,
Hey.  I tried the account name you gave me and it didn't work, so I'm afraid
this is the only way I can send my message.  Sorry to the others that have to 
read this as well.  Anyway, you have to get onto I-71 S.  Then, about 15 min.
later you will get on the William Howard Taft exit on the right.  Then take a
right on Eden St.  Then a quick left onto Curry St.  Then a right onto Vine St.
Bogart's is on the left side of the street.  It is really easy to find.  The
place is way cool and tons of room to groove.  If you have any questions just
write me back.  I hope to be there in all my glory.  Late-on.
Alison
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: REIS T BARON <03064626S@servax.fiu.edu>
Subject: One week-old NYE TIX Grovel Resurfaces
Reply-To: 03064626S@servax.fiu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:41:25 GMT

Well Pholks,
     This Grovel is getting rather moldy, but until my friends
from NC locate two NYE tickets, I must persist in trying to help
them out.  To any kind soul that may be sitting on any tickets
for NYE, please know that there are many people including my 2
friends who need extras, and I would appreciate it if you would
email me at 03064626s@servax.fiu.edu so we can work out a deal.

Please, we have no regrets!!
From: achaulk@wtcd.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Alex Chaulk)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: the Drovers???
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:13:39 GMT
Reply-To: achaulk@wtcd.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Alex Chaulk)
Organization: WIN Management Services - Dayton, OH

In article <By1DwE.A6@news.cso.uiuc.edu> app45293@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (ZUSS)
writes:
>jepstein@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jonathan Epstein) writes:
>
>
>>Has anyone ever heard of a band called the Drovers? they are playing a
>>twin-bill with God Street Wine and I want to know what kind of stuff
>>these guys play? Is it worth my while to check them out?
>
>       They are definitely hot.  I just saw them for the first time
>two nights ago at Mabels in Champaign, and I was most impressed.
>       The music they play is somehow based on Irish folk music, and 
>is made into a very jam-oriented rock that makes you shake yer booty.
>One of the band members plays only the fiddle.  

   Yup, definitely hot.  They are a Chicago band who I saw just a few weeks
ago.  Think of "Celtidelia" when you see them.  They're kind of a cross
between The Chieftans/REM (Well, sort of)...  Excellent band.  If you're into
Ethnic variety (I enjoy Irish music) then The Drovers show a nice combination
of Irish/Modern.  Definitely worth a look-see.

Alex
Dayton, Ohio
From: darkmage@toz.buffalo.ny.us (Dark Mage)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: hey hey!
Date: 18 Nov 92 06:40:57 GMT
Organization: The Tower of Zot - (716)8338-616


I'm upset cuz my bbs lost it's feed and I missed out on all kinds of 
exciting messages :(

I have an extra Albany ticket but need a place to crash...  Can anyone 
near the Palace Theatre help me out?  I'll bring tons of tapes with me to 
dub...

Hope to see everyone at the shows.  Watch for a shredded denim jacket 
with black and chainmail trim!

(and if I have time it'll have a nice phish thingie on the back)


Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy!
Set the gearshift for the high gear of your soul
DM
From: roek@kehaar.egr.msu.edu (Daniel Roek)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Our Opportunity
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:24:13 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Michigan State University

In article <1628700023@igc.apc.org>, mmitchell@igc.apc.org (Mark Mitchell) writes:

|>              Brian's Tour Tips:
|>    
|>   2)If you see a taper, try not to make noise around the
|>      mics. They are there to preserve the music, not 
|>       chatter about how cool Mike's hair .looks.

One more thing about this; if a taper is setting up his/her stuff
or just fiddling around with stuff, esp. before a show, it is generally
a good idea to _leave them alone_.  Don't bug them for tapes.  Just let
them go about their business.  I know I'll be taping at least one
upcoming show with a mic. I haven't used before and I won't want to
talk to anyone unless it's another taper with a suggestion about
how to run the mic. better.

Also, it's better to approach tapers if you've got something to trade.
You will receive, from the tapers I know, a hostile response if you
grovel for tapes at the show.
From: darkmage@toz.buffalo.ny.us (Dark Mage)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: movie
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:09:31 GMT
Organization: The Tower of Zot - (716)8338-616


The movie with the old nipple hoisting ceremenoy is "A Man Called Horse" 
(or one of it's sequels)

see you guys at the shows!



Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy!
Set the gearshift for the high gear of your soul
DM
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Josh Orfanakis <G_ORFANAKIS@ccnode.colorado.edu>
Subject: BEST WISHES
Reply-To: G_ORFANAKIS@ccnode.colorado.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:43:58 GMT

I'm over 2,000 miles away from the beginning of the fall tour out here in 
Colorado, and even I'm excited.  Everyone out there who is attending any of the
stops on the tour, I'm very jealous.  Be thankful for what you have, hopefully
I don't have to wait much longer, perhaps spring tour, for the band to come back to Colorado.  Anyway, best wishes to those attending, and I'll be thinking 
about the shows while I'm skiing(I guess that's a benefit of being out here!).
One request, please post the setlists, and interesting tidbits of information
about each show, so those of us who are less fortunate can relate.       
Thanks, enjoy, and be safe!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: 3_RSTURGES@fair1.fairfield.edu
Subject: Fahn Fahn Fahn on the Autobahn!
Reply-To: 3_RSTURGES@fair1.fairfield.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 05:11:21 GMT

Here are a few points of interest for soon-to-be interstate bound people to
consider... (ie Cornell, Bing, Albany!, SUNY SB!, Portchester!):

Point of Interest #1: During the live portion of the Junta re-release, note
                      TWO references to Ren & Stimpy.
                      1) Fan shouting "WOOOOOOOO-Woo-Woo-WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
			 (from R&S's space episodes)
		      2) Trey (Fishman perhaps?): "GHHOOONIIIITE" 
	                 (from Ren:"GHOONIIITE STIMPY!")
	Do these live tracks predate the Ren and Stimpy phenomenon/boon?????
 
NOBODY KNOWS!

Point of Interest #2: For anyone sans a Pennsylvania ticket on 25 NOV.  A great
                      band from the NYC area, God. St. Wine, will be playing at
	              the Wetlands (home of THE Harpua +8'Q)) located on 162
	              Hudson St. in Manhattan.  
		      The band's first album is being released on that night,
		      so if you're in/familiar with NYC, go down there.  That's
		      this WED. (night before T-Giving, two and three before
	              Portchester).

Hey have a great holiday, and See you at ALBANY Tomorrow (OH JOY!)

"BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBLLLLLLLLLLLLAPPPPP BOOOOM BIDDDDDIDY BOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM                  Ah, Wilson, CAN YOU STILL HAVE FUN?"
I need a cig
I'm outta here
Sturge
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: justin@galaxia.network23.com (Justin Brierley)
Subject: Tape Search
Organization: Dave's Very Own Personal System
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 01:30:36 GMT

Howdy,
  Well, I'm going to call this a tape "search" instead of a "grovel" because

A) it sounds better

B) let's face facts, yes i love Phish & I want these tapes, but if I don't
get them I'm not going to hurl myself from either the new or the old
Jamestown Bridge (Anyone in RI will get that joke)

Here's what I'm looking for:
7/21/92 Great Woods (opening for Santana. Santana's set would be a nice
bonus too)

10/30/92 Boston Garden

Here's the catch: No taping allowed at either of them.
But I have faith in sneaky tapers so, won't you help me if you please.

May your Golgi Apparatus always work,

              Justin Brierley
From: ACH@cornella.cit.cornell.edu (Paul Cummings)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: The Hole In The Wall
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:18:15 GMT
Reply-To: ACH@cornella.cit.cornell.edu
Organization: The Internet

Re: Doug's question about "The Hole In The Wall" in Binghamton:
It's a small restaurant which serves ALL natural foods.
I'm not sure, but it might be called "The Whole In The Wall".
I've been there once, about a year ago.  Come to think of it,
that was the weekend I discovered Phish!  My brother played
Reba on his Saturday graveyard shift on SUNY Bing's radio station
when I was visiting.  That song does strange things to your mind
at 6am after staying up all night :-)
      :
Paul  <><