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From: tony@library.anu.edu.au (Tony Barry)
Subject: Re: Library/Waikato
Organization: Australian National University Library
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 03:09:01 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.030733.22061@ucc.su.OZ.AU>, hughg@brutus.ee.su.oz.au (Hugh Garsden) writes:
> 
> I'd like to know if I can get onto the library at the University
> of Waikato, NZ. Can't find anything in the AARNet guides.
> 
Nope. They are not on the net yet.

Regards Tony
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From: rik@nella13.cc.monash.edu.au (Rik Harris)
Subject: Re: Library/Waikato
Reply-To: rik.harris@fcit.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 02:32:44 GMT

andy.linton@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Linton) writes:

>In article <Brz8H9.Jw2@alsvid.une.edu.au>, rdebrece@alsvid.une.edu.au (Roger Debreceny) writes:
>|> From article <1992Jul24.030733.22061@ucc.su.OZ.AU>, by hughg@brutus.ee.su.oz.au (Hugh Garsden):
>|> > I'd like to know if I can get onto the library at the University
>|> > of Waikato, NZ. Can't find anything in the AARNet guides.
>|> > 
>|> sorry ... to my knowledge only VUW (Victoria Uni of Wellington) is
>|> available on the Internet


>host			username	logout 		comments

>These seem to work fine:

>waikato.ac.nz 		OPAC 		^Z log 		VAX
>ccvcom.aukuni.ac.nz	AUCAT		PF3		IBM via VAX gateway
>ono.lincoln.ac.nz	OPAC then pub	menu option	DYNIX on Ultrix via VAX
>cantva.canterbury.ac.nz OPAC		QUIT option	VAX gateway


>This gets you to the front door but no further:

>elrond.otago.ac.nz	libcat		^]		DYNIX on Ultrix


>I've no info for Massey.

telnet libserver.massey.ac.edu

This gives you a terminal server Username> prompt, it appears you can enter
anything here.  If this sort of thing is logged, then it's probably
worth while putting your email address here.  You then get a terminal server
Local> prompt, type 'connect mu-library'.

I couldn't figure out how to quit, so I used ^]quit from UNIX telnet.

disclaimer:  I found this out by playing around with DNS & the
terminal server, I don't know if this is official from Massey, so it
may disappear without warning.

rik.
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From: imb@asstdc.oz.au (michael butler)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Is there an AUSTRALIAN email gateway into ....z3.fidonet.org
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:15:00 GMT


 > From: nick@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Nick Andrew)
 > Organization: Kralizec Dialup Unix Sydney: +61-2-837-1183 V.32

 [ .. ]

 > When I set up the Australian IXgate domain, *.fidonet.org went to the
 > USA. Now that the z3 portion is routed to Australia (Melbourne actually),
 > the situation is better.

Better but still not ideal .. whilst the volume is small in comparison say, to
trundling news about, private operators like myself are carrying the costs of
getting it into NSW (and other places) by means of an STD phone call.
Obviously this depends on your priorities and perspective.

 > However Fidonet's nets are geographically distant. A subset of the
 > nets (in NSW, SA & QLD) could logically be routed through the IXgate,
 > and the Victorian & other nets continue to go through the Melbourne
 > gateway. I'll see what level of support I can obtain for this setup.

I can handle addressing (bidirectionally) of the form *.z3.asstdc.oz.au as of
now. I assume that you can do similarly. Please correct me if I'm wrong but
isn't it just a matter of installing aliases *.n7**.z3.fidonet.org ->
*.n7**.z3.asstdc.oz.au (to take my own system as an example) for the NSW
segment at an appropriate AARNet site ?

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From: bambi@bu.oz.au (David J. Hughes)
Subject: Bond Uni Downtime (21/7/92)
Organization: ITS, Bond University
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 05:45:18 GMT


Due to an upgrade of the Cisco router connecting the Bond campus to
AARNet, all hosts at Bond (including kirk.bu.oz.au)  will be unavailable 
from 4:30pm 21/7/92 for about 30 minutes.


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From: andy.linton@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Linton)
Subject: Re: Library/Waikato
Organization: Dept of Comp Science, Victoria Uni, Wellington, NEW ZEALAND
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 02:11:57 GMT


In article <Bs2GJH.AG@comp.vuw.ac.nz>, andy.linton@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Linton) writes:
|> 
|> host			username	logout 		comments
|> 
|> These seem to work fine:
|> 
|> waikato.ac.nz 		OPAC 		^Z log 		VAX

It appears this works for hosts within NZ but not from elsewhere.


|> 
|> This gets you to the front door but no further:
|> 
|> elrond.otago.ac.nz	libcat		^]		DYNIX on Ultrix

This must have been down when I tried it earlier - seems OK after all.
From: ilanet@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: ABN Medline gateway available to pu
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:07:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:ccgavin.711247501@brolga:-484221486:peg:246600046:000:877
Nf-From: peg.UUCP!ilanet    Jul 29 09:07:00 1992


As a result of the message I placed here yesterday, I received
the following message from a gentleman in Namibia. As I have
not been following this discussion, would appreciate people
responding to him directly.

Thanks {:-)

Sandra Davey

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Sandra,

we only getting this group since some days (Don't ask me why
may be it is because we are Down Below :-)-O)

Could you summarize the thread for me? Is there an FTP/Telnet
way of getting into MEDLINE anywhere on the internet?

thanks, el



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He is making direct reference to this dicussion.
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From: johnd@cortex.physiol.su.oz.au (John Dodson)
Subject: Re: ABN Medline gateway available to public ???
Organization: Department of Physiology, University of Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:54:36 GMT

In <1992Jul21.141018.259@hhcs.gov.au> makinc@hhcs.gov.au writes:

>In article <johnd.711597376@cortex.physiol.su.oz.au>, johnd@cortex.physiol.su.oz.au (John Dodson) writes:

>> 	4. NHMRC grantees will be given access to either the BRS or DIALOG 
>> 		(commercial) systems with the expenses

>Well there is the answer to the questions going around here.

>If there is enough lobbying for it NHMRC might consider other
>options.  The Department is currently considering a direct
>connection to AARNet but there is no firm decision yet.  That
>might be a viable way to get what you and the others want. 
>You'll have to take it up with the NH&MRC.

>Carl.

Any Idea who at NH&MRC ?

Finding the people who make the decisions can be difficult sometimes :-(

johnd@physiol.au.oz.au
From: rdebrece@alsvid.une.edu.au (Roger Debreceny)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: Library/Waikato
Date: 26 Jul 92 03:31:57 GMT
Organization: University of New England - Northern Rivers (Lismore)

From article <1992Jul24.030733.22061@ucc.su.OZ.AU>, by hughg@brutus.ee.su.oz.au (Hugh Garsden):
> I'd like to know if I can get onto the library at the University
> of Waikato, NZ. Can't find anything in the AARNet guides.
> 
sorry ... to my knowledge only VUW (Victoria Uni of Wellington) is
available on the Internet
Roger Debreceny
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From: pte900@jatz.aarnet.edu.au (Peter Elford)
Subject: Link to SA down (Sunday 26th July)
Reply-To: Peter Elford <P.Elford@aarnet.edu.au>    
Organization: Australian Academic and Research Network (AARNet)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 03:53:13 GMT


Telecom have advised us that they need to carry out some urgent repairs
to a section of optical fibre affecting the Adelaide - Melbourne 2M
link. They may require up to 4 hours to complete the work which is
scheduled to occur on Sunday 26th July from 1000-1400 (AEST).

The following South Australian networks will be unreachable during that time:

129.96.0.0      FLINDERS-UNI
129.127.0.0     ADELAIDE-UNI
130.220.0.0     SAITEN
131.185.0.0     DSTO
136.169.0.0     SACAENET
143.92.0.0      ETAFE
143.216.0.0     SANET
150.101.0.0     TPA
150.207.0.0     AWADI-B
192.43.226.0    UAENG01
192.43.227.0    UAENG02
192.43.228.0    UAENG03
192.43.229.0    UACOMSCI
192.52.185.0    FLINDERS-GW
192.54.135.0    ATLANTEK
192.58.129.0    AUSTEK
192.83.231.0    INTERNODE
192.83.238.0    CSIRO-DMTADL
192.124.117.0   CSIRO-DHN-ADL

Peter

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From: hamish@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au (Hamish Moffatt)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Is there an AUSTRALIAN email gateway into ....z3.fidonet.org
Date: 30 Jul 92 06:15:12 GMT

Hello Nick!

Saturday July 25 1992 11:16, Nick Andrew <nick@kralizec.zeta.org.au> wrote:

 NA> I think the "accepted standard" you're referring to is the so-called
 NA> "uucp" kludge where,

Indeed.

 NA> gatewayed message. And the IXgate accepts the "uucp" kludge on inbound
 NA> messages from Fidonet ... so essentially it is upwardly compatible with
 NA> the broken "standard" to which you refer.

Aha... now you meantion this I have no problem with your gateway then..

 NA> Somebody had to be third, I guess :-)

Third? I can name a few more.. There's one lurking around n632, michael butler
perhaps, and others.... :-)


 NA> David Nugent's in VIC which currently holds the MX record for Zone 3 was
 NA> second.

I've said this before in this group, but I am under the impression that only
region 50's MX records point to david. No?

Regards,
Hamish


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From: ccfj@hippo.ru.ac.za (F. Jacot Guillarmod)
Subject: Re: ABN Medline gateway available to pu
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:28:59 GMT

In <1992Jul29.070107.22490@newshost.anu.edu.au> pte900@jatz.aarnet.edu.au (Peter Elford) writes:

>Please use use some care when mailing to Namibia (and other remote
>locations). You will often find that their connection to the Internet
>will be via a number of very slow, store and forward dial up connections
>often between PC's and voluminous postings will cause delays and
>blockages for them. Namiba is definitely not (yet) directly connected
>to the Internet.

Correct.  Namibia is not directly connected to the Internet.  There is a
one user site up there that logs in via 2400 baud uucp dialup.

However, in this case the individual concerned is connecting up
interactively via X.25 to Rhodes University in South Africa, which is on
the Internet.  
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From: hamish@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au (Hamish Moffatt)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Is there an AUSTRALIAN email gateway into ....z3.fidonet.org
Date: 30 Jul 92 06:18:16 GMT

Hello Nick!

Saturday July 25 1992 11:25, Nick Andrew <nick@kralizec.zeta.org.au> wrote:

 >> Actually the safe limit is about 10Kb.
 NA> Not so. 30k is the de-facto limit for netmail messages. The IXgate
 NA> splits messages where required.

SQUISH has a message limit of 16K I believe, and D'Bridge a limit of 8K.
Don't know where your defacto standard came from....




Regards,
Hamish


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Subject: Re: Library/Waikato
From: andy.linton@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Linton)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:18:51 GMT
Organization: Dept of Comp Science, Victoria Uni, Wellington, NEW ZEALAND


In article <Brz8H9.Jw2@alsvid.une.edu.au>, rdebrece@alsvid.une.edu.au (Roger Debreceny) writes:
|> From article <1992Jul24.030733.22061@ucc.su.OZ.AU>, by hughg@brutus.ee.su.oz.au (Hugh Garsden):
|> > I'd like to know if I can get onto the library at the University
|> > of Waikato, NZ. Can't find anything in the AARNet guides.
|> > 
|> sorry ... to my knowledge only VUW (Victoria Uni of Wellington) is
|> available on the Internet


host			username	logout 		comments

These seem to work fine:

waikato.ac.nz 		OPAC 		^Z log 		VAX
ccvcom.aukuni.ac.nz	AUCAT		PF3		IBM via VAX gateway
ono.lincoln.ac.nz	OPAC then pub	menu option	DYNIX on Ultrix via VAX
cantva.canterbury.ac.nz OPAC		QUIT option	VAX gateway


This gets you to the front door but no further:

elrond.otago.ac.nz	libcat		^]		DYNIX on Ultrix


I've no info for Massey.
From: ianp@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: TELNET TO PEGASUS
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:52:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:peg:246600043:000:211
Nf-From: peg.UUCP!ianp    Jul 22 08:52:00 1992



Please note that telnet access to Pegasus Networks is
now available, at our new address: 192.131.13.1
An account on our system is needed to gain access. 
Contact support@peg.pegasus.oz.au for further details.
From: ewartd@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: ABC on AARNET?
Date: 22 Jul 92 09:51:34 GMT

Does anybody know if the Australian Broadcasting Corporation has AARNET
access?  I know that they have some sort of VAX system which is used
for electronic mail, but nobody I spoke to at Radio National knew
enough about computers to answer my questions.

(Can't get by without my Internet!)

Thanks

Don
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From: andrewd@ecr.mu.oz.au (Andrew_John DISSELDORP)
Subject: Review of Australia v CIS, Olympic Mens Basketball
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 03:40:41 GMT


On Tuesday the 28th the Australian mens basketball side took on the CIS.

Match Review
	The match opened up with Australia playing the same way as their
previous match against Puerto Rico. (I.E. They pounded the ball inside).
This time the inside defense was better, meaning fewer inside points. When
Australia went outside the shots didn't fall. (Unlike the match against
Peurto Rico) During the 1st 1/2 the CIS got out to a 10pt lead, which
was down to 4 by 1/2 time. (Score 35-31). 
	The second 1/2 opened up with both sides having a bit of time in the
lead. The CIS were shooting better, and soon they went on a 10 -0 run. During
middle of this run the Australian Coach subbed out the best Australian frontline
(Longley & Bradtke) for Borner and Sengstock. BAD MOVE. Australia went from
bad to worse. Australia could not buy a bucket. The CIS were scoring easy
transition buckets. Australia were totally outplayed, looking slow and 
poorly skilled. The only good thing about it was that the loss came early,
so hopefully they will recover for later matches. 

Match Highlights
Longleys tip jam in the first 3 minutes
Longleys great pass to Bradtke or Vlahov for a lay in, in the first 5 minutes.
Loggins turned the ball over, only to block the lay in at one end, and
score at the other.

Match Lowlights
Longley played poorly sometimes. How can a 6'6" guy block his shoot from behind?
Longley looked lost occasionally with his back to the bucket.

Australias weaknesses
Australia appeared to have addressed some of slow lateral motion in the zone,
only to expose their slow transition defence. Vlahov is really slow.
Gaze played poorly. He was injured in the match against PR, where he copped
an elbow to the head. Apparently he has a Grazed Cornea and is in doubt
for the match against Venezuela. His knee is in poor condition too. He walks
around with a lambswool knee brace on.
As I picked Australias poor preparation showed. I did pick them to lose 
this match.
 
To Come
On the 29th Australia take on Venezuela. This is a must win match, as 
Australia doesn't want to play USA in the quarter finals. Venezuela took
on Lithuania on the same day, and played some really rough basketball (
al la New York Knicks v Chicago), which nearly payed off as they lost by 9pts.
My pick? Australia to lose.

Comments Welcome
Andrew
andrewd@ecr.mu.oz.au
 
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From: gleeson@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Martin Joseph GLEESON)
Newsgroups: aus.sport,rec.sport.basketball.misc,rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Review of Australia v CIS, Olympic Mens Basketball
Date: 30 Jul 92 06:30:21 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia

In <craigb.712393056@morgana> craigb@resmel.bhp.com.au (Craig Blundell) writes:
>andrewd@ecr.mu.oz.au (Andrew_John DISSELDORP) writes:
>>Match Review
[.......]
>>Comments Welcome

>What was the final FREAKIN' score ???????

Personally, I would have said:
"Nice review guys, but how about the score?"

M.
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From: andrewd@ecr.mu.oz.au (Andrew_John DISSELDORP)
Subject: Review Australia v Puerto Rico Olympic Mens basketball
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 00:48:53 GMT


	Last night Australia opened its Mens Olympic basketball campaign
against Puerto Rico. This was a must win match for the Boomers, as both 
teams were equally ranked (3rd behind CIS & Lithuania). In all probabality
the team that lost here will play the Dream Team when the crossover occurs.
(I.E. The team that loses will finish 4th in the pool, and Play the #1 side
in the other pool). Australia went with a starting lineup of 
	C Longley
	PF Bradtke
	SF Vlahov
	SG Gaze
	PG Smythe
	The match opened with Australia pounding the ball inside to Longley.
He scored the first 4 points. Puerto Rico then went to double team him, which
left Bradtke open, allowing him to score from a beautiful behind the back pass
from Longley. Bradtke scored the next 6 points and Australia opened up to a 
10 - 3 lead, scoring all points from lay ups, shooting 100%. Puerto Rico 
called a time out but failed to capatilize on the foul trouble that Longley
was in (2 fouls). Puerto Rico started clogging up the middle, which left 
Smythe, Keogh and Loggins open outside to shoot the 3. Puerto Rico were 
rattled and had poor shot selection. By 1/2 time Australia led 57-31. 
Longley absolutely dominated the 1st 7 minutes. Gaze didn't touch the ball. 
	The second 1/2 wasn't much to watch. Australia played all 12 players,
with 11 getting on the score sheet. Gaze scored 20 points, as did Bradtke.
Gaze however scored the majority of those point when the game was over. Bradtke
scored his points when the game was close. Other top scorers were Loggins 19
Longley 16 and Keogh 12.

	Comments - Australia's quiet build up playing no international
opposition helped them, with Puerto rico unaware of Loggins abilities, and
Australia's different Game Plan. 
	The crowd buzzed whenever Leroy Loggins did anything. He played
really well.
	Australia looked liked they would be in trouble with a team that 
had good perimeter passing to transfer play around the zone. Lateral motion
in the zone was very slow. Australia stuck with the zone most of the match.
The few times they tried man on man they got burnt severely.

	Game Highlights -
	Longleys pass to Bradtke in the first minute.
	Loggins one handed flipper while fading out of court.
	The tap from Heal to McKay (?) for a layup.
	The perfect 3 on 1 fast break execution with Heal, McKay and Gaze.
	
	The referees could have been a lot better. Gaze copped a huge elbow to 
the head (a la Charles Barkley) There were a lot of poor Charge/block/no call
situations. 
	Australia take on the CIS tonight at 2.30am AEST. CIS will probably
win.
Comments anyone
Andrew
andrewd@ecr.mu.oz.au

P.S. Isn't it funny. People in The US pay $125 to watch the dream team, and
All I have to do to watch them is pay $0 and stay up till 2am! No pay TV
for Australia.
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From: oliver@blefusco.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Oliver Meyer)
Subject: Selling tickets for the Olympic Games
Summary: I want to sell a about 28 tickets to the olypic games.
Keywords: volleyball athletics olympic games barcelona tickets sell
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 24 Jul 92 09:31:25 GMT

Hi !

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These are :

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        =========        05.08.92     6 tickets
                         06.08.92     5 tickets
                         07.08.92     6 tickets

        These are all DM 60,- each.


        Volleyball (VB) on the 09.08.92     8 Stueck
        ===============
        These are DM 102,- each..

If you have any interest in these tickets please call

        Firma Croda GmbH
        Herrenpfad 38

        4054 Nettetal 2
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From within germany:  Fax 0 21 57 / 23 50
                      Tel 0 21 57 / 81 73 - 30  (Mrs. Meyer)

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                            Tel 0 49 / 21 57 / 81 73 - 30 (Mrs. Meyer)

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