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From: kensaga@diku.dk (Kenneth Fribert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Supra 14.4 & DLG
Keywords: DLG, Supra
Date: 25 Aug 92 10:51:45 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

jma@reef.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams) writes:

>> It appears that DLG is sending the info to the modem at 19200 continuously
>> during a download.  Eventually, no matter what connect speed a user is at, the

Are you sure that RTS/CTS is set, both in the modem and the software?

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From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: VLT/Kermit to Unix upload help needed...
Date: 4 Sep 92 02:10:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: glia.crystal.715572631
Organization: University of Washington

Hi, I'm getting real good at downloading the world from my unix site, but for
some reason, I have muchos problemos trying to go in the opposite direction!

The kermit commands that work for me to DOWNLOAD to the Amiga (after much trial
and error!):

glia> kermit -i -e 1000 -s fname 

BUT, when I try to reverse it, changing the -s to -r and then jumping back
to VLT, the darn thing either times out on me or gives so many erros that it's
not worth keeping the file.

Little files, under 2K, seem to be about all I can upload, but even those are
trial and error and finger-crossing. (Individual icons are about all I can
upload and they are archived.)

I've tried starting with VLT first, but that was TOTAL disaster. :<  

Also, VLT wants to send my DF0: or DH0(30HD): along as part of the filename
(and when it sent Ram Disk:fname, my unix choked on the mv (renaming) command
because of the space.)  Is there any way to chop off that directory name?

Please post answers to the group - I'm getting so far behind in my email I'm
beginning to dread "You have new mail" signals.  ;>

Thanks in advance...
Crystal
  ;>

Oh, and please do not suggest Zmodem.  Kermit is the only protocol our site
supports due to space constraints. :<
From: rwm@atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca (Russell McOrmond)
Date: 23 Aug 92 09:20:10 EST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Amiga Comms (was RE: Amiga Kiosks?)
	<kehlet.060m@kehlet.adsp.sub.org>

jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999) writes:
>>XPR *WILL* be available in the future, but why use them if the built-in are
>>faster and even more reliable?

>Good.  Although there are legit gripes about XPR, it helps to have that
>ability in case someone wants to use something you didn't want to implement.

>*plus* seen the same thing in Term.  I have the feeling this is an XPRZModem
>bug instead (tons o' errors, too)

  I hope you realize the connection between these two problems.  The more
people that implemente their 'internal' Zmodem, and push it as a 'feature',
then the less likely that a fully implemented XPR based Zmodem will be
released.  True or not (I personally think not), people have this 'image'
that an internal protocol is going to somehow be better than a properly
written XPR version of the same protocol.  The fact that only the
'freeware' style people are working on XPR based protocols (IE: The people
who don't get paid or supported for their development) will always make
this a problem.

  If everyone wants better protocols, encouraging authors to support XPR
(On both sides of the interface by writing XPR's themselves as well), we'll
all be better off.


(P.S.  Jack, let's not start our AMIGA_COMMS flamewar again - I'm just 
presenting this side, and I think most know you disagree ;-)

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From: sl1zm@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Sernet???
Date: 28 Aug 92 01:16:58 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

Is there a network for the Amiga Serial port that works like parnet?

James
From: willw@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (William Waring)
Subject: Re: XComm - Anyone who has tried it?
Keywords: xcomm, amiga, datacomm
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 07:02:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.061026.29315@eua.ericsson.se> etxpihl@eua.ericsson.se (Tomas Pihl) writes:
>Anyone who has tried XComm?  
>
>I downloaded it from a BBS last night and the program is
>for sure SUPER!. Some real nice features, but it seems to
>have lots of bugs. Who has made this program?
>

Hi there dude,
	I'm the writer of this program along with my sidekick ,will waring (Sorry will :-))  The Version you have is BETA!! That is why it has the BETA greek symbol next to the version number. This means that it is pre-release and wasnever supposed to get out, but it did. The version you have is VERY buggy. We are currently upto Version 0.96 beta and are planning to release it very soon.. Please do not judge X-Comm on this version. It is NOTHING compared to the new version, which is sert to turn a few heads. It h





as ALOT of bugs in it, so don't panic - They should all be gone by release.

Regards,
	Edward Lawford



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From: kehlet@kehlet.adsp.sub.org (Jesper Kehlet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Amiga Comms (was RE: Amiga Kiosks?)
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:56:21 GMT
Organization: Compos Mentis Software Systems
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Aug24.193947.11784@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com> jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999) writes:

> because it is 'standard.'  Simply put; if Jack or anyone else comes up with
> a superior implementation of a transfer protocol, and decides not to release
> it into the public domain, that's his perogative.  It's his time, his sweat,
> and his decision.  If it's better, I use it.  If it's not, I won't.  I

It's also his money!  If you wish to get a superior Zmodem protocol, you
must pay for it (hiya, Chuck!), now, would it be a good idea to make it
public thereafter?

No way!  I'd like to cover my expenses.


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From: kehlet@kehlet.adsp.sub.org (Jesper Kehlet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: HST & SUpra: which is faster?
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:56:23 GMT
Organization: Compos Mentis Software Systems
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Aug25.174145.13257@corax.udac.uu.se> tommyi@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Tommy The King) writes:

> > The HST standard uses a backtalk channel at only 450 bps, when
> > Supra/TwinCom etc.  uses a full-blown backtalk on 14,400 bps, so consider
> > HST the slowest...
> > 
> 
> ...ehh...are all of you just stupid or what? the latest hsts run in 16800
> baud and v.32bis runs in 14400 baud.. end of discussion...

Sorry, you're the stupid one...  it's bps, not baud, and 16800 still gives
a slow backtalk channel thought it's now at 600 bps or so.

So, take this:  V32bis gives you transfer speed in both directions
simultaneously and 14,400 bps, while the 16.8 HST only gives you
(16,800+600)/2 = 8700 in FULL duplex terminology.

When the bidirectional protocols gain even more space, TrapDoor should be
doing Janus in 1.82, we get ~1600 cps in both directions, which will give
~3200 cps on those transfers.

With 16.8 HST, you're really going fast here:  ~1800 cps in one direction,
but the other direction only goes ~60 bps, so where's the gain?  We'll go
~3200 and you'll go ~18600.  GREAT!

Besides:  be my guest, buy a 16.8DS -- it has V32bis, so we'll connect
14,400 full duplex to it, but to other USR Courier modems, you'll get HST
yourself...  YIKES!

So, stupid, get it:  HST is the past!  Even USR is going for V.fast 28,800
and letting HST die now!!!


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,demon.ip.support
From: Steve@donald.demon.co.uk (Steve Gilbert)
Subject: Re: AmigaNOS files...
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Organization: Private Mail/Usenet node
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 22:26:48 +0000

Can anyone tell me what the following AmigaNOS files are for, and how they
are used?

> 	TCPIP:Spool/forward.bbs
> 	TCPIP:nos.rc


Steve.

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From: cprince@mathcs.emory.edu (Chea Prince)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.telecomm
Subject: amiga & DTR
Date: 30 Aug 92 22:19:03 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS

i have a gdc desktop 596 (9600b w/ mnp 5) connected to an amiga 
2500/30--i have to force DTR in order for the modem to work--it
works fine with an ibm xt--anyone know why the amiga needs DTR
forced on--

thanks--chea

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: sck@watson.ibm.com (Scott C. Kennedy)
Subject: Re: (oops) Amiga TCP/IP NFS speeds > 94 kbs?
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:06:21 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research Center

In article <1992Aug28.200219.14376@watson.ibm.com>, sck@watson.ibm.com (Scott C. Kennedy) writes:
|> I installed Amiga TCP/IP on my Amiga and started playing around with it. I
|> soon discovered that my NFS throughput was something less than desirable.
|> 94 kb/s via disktest. I changed the max sizes but that changed nothing. I am
|> getting <2 ms ping times so I don't think the connection is faulty.
|> What are the speeds that other people are getting from their machines,
|> before I start ripping out things, or getting a sniffer to diagnose this
|> further.
|> 
|> My setup is as follows...
|> Amiga 3000 w/ 10 MB Ram & 200 MB HD connected via ethernet to an IBM PC/RT
|> running BSD4.3 with 16 MB of Ram and 1 GB of disk. I have 8 nfsd & biod
|> running on the RT, I have increased NFS maxread & maxwrite to 16k but got no
|> discernible change. Am I missing something obvious? I have yet to do a total
|> througput test using ftp (I didn't think about that until after I was at
|> work.) so I will have more data later.
|> 
|> PS> These two machine are connected through BNC and are the only two devices
|> on the ether.
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From: lilianstrom@krang.fnal.gov (If its too loud,  You're too old)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: VLT Download troubles.
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:34:07 GMT
Reply-To: lilianstrom@fndcd.fnal.gov
Organization: Fermilab Special Projects Group

In article <118305@muvms3.bitnet>, rcbi110@muvms3.bitnet (R. ALAN MONROE) writes:
>I'm having trouble getting programs to my Amiga from this vax.  A friend of
>mine can get files through his computer at work, but we've both tried using
>kermit to send a file to our Amigas with no luck.  When at the FTP site, I type 
>BINARY and then GET <filename>.  Then, I go to Kermit and type SEND <filename>
>and I recieve a file by the at name on my Amiga at the right size, but it
>doesn't work.  I've tried this with .lzh, .dms, and maybe even .lha files, and
>I can't even uncompress them (I get CRC errors with both LhA and DMS.)  I'm
>using VLT v5.517.
>
>Thanks,
>
>     Tony



Try a 

	SET FILE TYPE BINARY

after starting KERMIT on the VAX and before sending the file.  Works for me.


				al



Al Lilianstrom
Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory
Batavia, Illinois
lilianstrom@fndcd.fnal.gov

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From: rwm@atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca (Russell McOrmond)
Date: 29 Aug 92 10:12:11 EST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Amiga Comms (was RE: Amiga Kiosks?)
	<1992Aug21.162454.7251@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com>

jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan) writes:
>initial development) was that proprietary schemes are "tightly bound to the
>fortunes of their suppliers".

>  The status of ZMODEM-90 is a direct collision with that stance.

>  Anyways, the point here is that the protocol specification should be in
>the public domain, the source code for a specific implementation of the 
>protocol does not, however.  (sorry Russ, couldn't resist :-)

  By the way, I totally agree with your points in this message.  I myself do
not feel that 'source code' is a proper way to document a transfer protocol.
(As was origionally done with SeaLink, and it's fidonet-derivatives. SeaLink
has now only finally been dealt with within fidonet with FTS-0007).

  Methinks that your 'sorry Russ' was added due to a confusion about a few 
aspects of what I do.  Just because *I* release all my software using the 
GNU Public Licence, does not mean that I believe this to be the BEST way 
for 'everyone' to release their software.  Just because *I* want to have
source code to the utilities that I run (So that I can attempt to fix
problems that I will end up having, rather than having to wait for the
author to 'feel like' dealing with these issues) does not mean that
everyone else does.  Heck, a Welmat V1 user can use all-Commercial
transfer protocols on their system, and the possibility exists that 
another site running Welmat will support MORE protocols on their site 
than I do on my own ;-)

   The 'XPR' issue that we 'seem' to disagree on often has nothing to do
with distribution licences, it has to do with the format of the software
distributed.  I have absolutely no problem (And actually actively encourage)
Shareware and Commercial 'XPR's.  While the *DOCUMENTATION* for Xpr must
be publicly accessable, I don't believe that every implementation of
this specification must be.

>  -jack-

-russ-   ;-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: hillman@iastate.edu (Matthew C Hilleman)
Subject: TERM & VT340
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 05:31:44 GMT


	Has anyone had the VT340 emulation up and running with any version
	of TERM? I have tried it on all them. It still doesn't work with 2.3.

	It seems to crash once it gets a clear display command.


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From: MLO@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (LORETI, Maurizio)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: z-x-modem blues using telnet connection
Date: 30 Aug 92 15:16:50 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

I had a similar problem - the cause was the 'rlogin' step.
If you are on an Unix (tm) box, give rlogin -8; on VMS,
rlogin /eight. The default rlogin uses _7_ bit connection,
and binary files don't like this ...

From Italy,     ciao             Maurizio

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From: WGLP09@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: VLT Question
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:58:38 GMT
 <1992Sep1.151229.644@cco.caltech.edu>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Correct. By the way: VLT 5.576 is now available from BIX, various BBS's
and unixhub.slac.stanford.edu. This is a bug-fix update, very few actual
new features.

Also, in the announcement department, I will be away from "the nets" for
the next four weeks, so I won't be responding to questions and e-mail for
a while...

       Willy.
From: lofaso@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Bernie Lofaso)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: z-x-modem blues using telnet connection
Date: 31 Aug 92 13:03:47 GMT
Organization: Applied Research Labs, University of Texas at Austin

Eric_J_Rainbolt@cup.portal.com writes:

>I am wondering if anyone would know the answer to this problem.

>My problem is when I call my school maiframe, I am limited to
>using telnet to connect to the sun then to rlogin from there.
>When I download, I get tons of block sync errors because telnet
>is not 8-bit clean.  Is there anyway to get around this problem.

If your terminal server supports it, use 'rlogin -8'. Some servers, such
as Xylogics, let you turn off their escape sequence and use a binary
telnet. Usually something like 'tesc ^@', then either telnet or telnet -b.

Bernie Lofaso
Applied Research Labs
From: paulk@terapin.com (Paul Kienitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: X-terminal program for Amiga?
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:32:49 GMT
Organization: BBS

> Is there a program that provides X-windows terminal emulation for
> the Amiga?
 
I believe there is a commercial one, from a company called GfxBase.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: keithc@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (Keith Christopher)
Subject: Re: JRComm???
Organization: Johns Hopkins Univ. Welch Medical Library
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:50:08 GMT

Jack,


    How does one become a beta tester ? I have a friend of mine that showed/demoed
his copy if 1.02 (Jr-Comm) and fell in love with it. But I was looking for a 2.04 ver. (which I discovered is in beta stage.) I have been using -> Online!Plat for my transfers but found that @ high speeds it gives 950CPS at 14.4.!!! I've heard wonderful thingsa about JRComm and want to see it I could beta test.

keithc

please no flames.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: alexr@capella.EETECH.McGill.CA (Alex Rousseau)
Subject: Which is the best comms package (BBS and general) ?
Keywords: n
Organization: McGill University - Montreal, CANADA.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 23:50:43 GMT

Hello, fellow Usenuts and Amigos. I am currently using Online! for all
my Comms needs but I find it rather lacking in certain aspects, not
very graphically pleasing, and the lack of a BBS program makes me ask
the following question:

	Which in your opinion is the best public domain comms program
	for the Amiga ? (Ideally, I would like a program that opens a
	both the terminal and buffer windows on the Workbench - not
	on a separate screen (ChipRAM... you know what I mean).

	How about a BBS package ?

Your answers will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Alex.

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From: tdietz@tcedge.mi.org (Tom Dietz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: C-NET
Distribution: world
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! v0.95f
Date: 2 Sep 92 10:44:57 EDT
Organization: EXCELSIOR! Tech Support BBS (313) 77-AMIGA

In an article, chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch) writes:

>tdietz@tcedge.mi.org (Tom Dietz) writes:
>ummm.. you better check your legalities again.  PD means PUBLIC DOMAIN. 
>Anything in the public domain can be used by anyone, for anything.  You can
>even copywrite something public domain yourself, though it may not stand up
Well, you can call the Copyright office in Washington D.C.  Public Domain does 
indeed mean "public domain", it does give you the right to own it, this is 
true.  However, the message on Steve Drews code says that you cannot 
distribute his code outside of his archive.  And it does clearly display the 
Copyright notice.  This argument has become very tiresome, I have seen that 
many people do not care if someone steals other code, that is fine.  If you 
enjoy your BBS program and have no problem with ethics, fine.  I however have 
different views, that I will write something, then sell it, not steal it, and 
then sell it.  That is my personal opinion on this subject, like it has been 
from day one.  Not to discredit anyone, but this argument is just going in 
circles.


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