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From: danaf@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Subject: Re: Some things...
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 07:30:32 GMT

In article <1699@lysator.liu.se>, boberg@lysator.liu.se (Stefan Boberg) writes:

|>   Another reason why game and demo programmers `had' to toss the OS and
|> go straight at the hardware was that the earlier Amiga models only had
|> 512K ChipMem and this could get quite tight when you start making more
|> sophisticated games (there are ways around this limit however, which
|> we proved in Project X and Alien Breed, who both play samples from 
|> FastMemory instead of ChipMem). The AGA Amigas will come with 1M/2M 
|> ChipMem minimum, so this is no longer true.

I'm SUUUUURE.      9)

Come on! 512k was tight with 640x400x4. NOW, we have 800x600x8, one HELL of an
increase! And the chip RAM has only increased by a factor of four. (Two, really,
1 meg CHIP RAM is not sufficient either, even with old (ECS) resolutions...)

|> Stefan Boberg - AP & EE student at Linkoping Institute of Technology, Sweden
|>  Author of LhA, ArjA and LhArcA. Co-author of Alien Breed, Project X ...
|>   EMail: boberg@lysator.liu.se, lha@augs.se           FIDO: 2:204/404.7
|>     UUCP:  {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmehq!cbmswe!team17!boberg

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: hyc@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Howard Chu)
Subject: Re: READ THIS AMIGANS, FALCON 030 SPECS
Organization: SAR Systems Development & Processing, JPL
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:18:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.150455.4759@cs.mcgill.ca> storm@cs.mcgill.ca (Marc WANDSCHNEIDER) writes:
>In article <1704@lysator.liu.se> boberg@lysator.liu.se (Stefan Boberg) writes:
>>
>>>About TEN TIMES FASTER. (IDE: max. 1 MB per second transfer-ratio. SCSI II
>>>max. 10 MB per second. 
>>
>>  OK, IDE has a maximum speed of 1MB/s... How come Mike Sinz posted a 
>>DiskSpeed test a week or so ago that said 1.3M/s ??
>>
>>  And that 10M figure is pure nonsense. No reasonably priced drive
>>will ever get up to those speeds.
>
>	This is true.  My IDE drive gets about 1.2 - 1.3MB/s.  As far as I'm
>aware, SCSI has a Max Transfer rate of about 5MB/s and SCSI-II THEORETICALLY
>DOES have a 10MB/s transfer rate.  IDE however, is also supposedly theoret-
>ically 4MB/s.
>
>	I doubt that any  of the obscenely expensive SMD drives we have in
>the machine room at school get over 5MB/s, and they're at leasttwice the price
>of any PC drive of their size...

Well, this may not be a big issue for the typical home-computer buyer, but
that 10MB/sec number isn't total rubbish. Just about all the SCSI peripherals
I've seen or used have on-board RAM buffers, which they can fill at the top
speed of the bus. And fast SCSI-2 drives aren't much more expensive today than
good SCSI-1 drives. We have a Sun 670 machine here with drives that *do*
transfer at 5 MB/sec, for example. If you're really pressed for speed, you can
write (e.g.) a 1MB chunk to 1 drive (at 10MB/sec) and write another chunk to
another drive, thus getting an aggregate 10MB/sec bus utilization even tho
each drive can only perform physical I/Os at 5MB/sec. So, even though you can't
buy a single 10MB/sec drive today, you still can use the 10MB/sec speed of
SCSI-2 if you need it, which is still much better than you could ever hope to
accomplish with IDE. Also, if you use the wide SCSI options, you can double
or quadruple again those transfer rates (16 or 32 bits at a time, parallel
transfers, instead of just 8 bits. Although, I haven't seen any wide-SCSI
drives myself.).

Re: the SMD drives - yah, they're really not worth the price, in my opinion.
SCSI is really the only peripheral bus worth considering these days. Even with
the really hot Interphase controllers, our SCSI drives outperform all the other
(SMD, etc) drives we use.
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From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: AGA hidden registers - C= is giving me an attitude
Date: 2 Oct 1992 09:01:29 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

spence@cbmvax.commodore.com (Spencer Shanson) writes:
: After all, only myself and
: Chris Green need to know how to program these chips.

Whoa, man.  Don't you think you've got too many people doing that?  I
mean, you know what they say about too many cooks spoiling the batter.
Hell, not even Microsoft hires THAT many people.  :D

Sorry, had to be said.  I still say there are only seven to eight
people in SW/HW engineering, total.  :D

Let's see, there's you, Chris, Dave, George, Mike...Bob
Raible...(another guy in LSI design I've forgotten)...

That's six.  Yup, that's probably all of them, though I think I might
have missed maybe one or two.  Boy, you guys could all go out for
beers afterwards...  The entire C= engineering department can fit at
one bar booth.  :)

Greg

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,gac.general
From: danaf@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Subject: Re: PR Blunder of the Millennium!
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 07:40:44 GMT

In article <DJOHNSON.92Oct1200242@cayenne.gac.edu>, djohnson@cayenne.gac.edu (Daniel P Johnson) writes:
|>  "Interesting concept, the whole thing is a special advertising
|> supplement; tear out the articles, and throw the magazine away!  I
|> always wonder at the things IBM Research comes up with..."  I glance
|> up at the picture above the text.  "The editor-genius himself...No!
|> It's Arthur C. Clarke!  Cool!"  I read the caption: 'Clarke at his
|> home in Sri Lanka, with Mars on the screen.'  I glance to the monitor
|> behind him: Mars.  "Rmm... I wonder what kind IBM gave him for
|> supplementing their supplement...rrr...I can *just* make out the
|> monitor...COMMODORE!?!  1084???  Hey, whats that computer sitting next
|> to it...an Amiga 3000!"  I sit back in my chair, chuckling.  The word
|> OOPS flits through my mind.  "Somebody isn't going to be happy 'bout
|> this..."  I wonder if there's anything else I would recongnize, after
|> all, Clarke has a rather mischevious grin on his face...  Hmm...whats
|> that purple sticker in the window....  'AMIGA FEVER'


Yeah, but you were LOOKING!

Better than the olden days, when Byte airbrushed out Amiga logos on facing
pages with IBM's big blue blunder flashing its block-letter smile proudly...


8)

|> --  Daniel Johnson  djohnson@cayenne.gac.edu  --

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From: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A4000
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:21:38 GMT
Reply-To: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

In article <1992Sep29.061926.4399@desire.wright.edu>, fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu writes:
>In article <1a2a1iINNa3h@uwm.edu>, gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:
>> ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu (Gregg Giles) writes:
>> 
>> : IMHO, with regard to adventures, you'll see EHB adventures for some time yet,
>> : and when the AGA base grows large enough to support, then you'll see 256-colo
>> : adventures on the Amiga.
>
>	Maybe more AGA compatible games will show up simply because the PC 
>	games they'll be porting from will be 256 colors.  Doesn't make a
>	whole lot of sense but...
>
>> --
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>Fred Heitkamp,  ** Not an organization.  My opinions only **
>
would it not be simple enough to include a selection at the beginning of the
program for what chips ya have?  since all the IBM games seem to be in 256
colors already..(and most companys seem to love EGA ports) they should be more
than happy to port the 256 colorr stuff....

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From: marnold@cwis.unomaha.edu (Matthew Eldon Arnold)
Subject: Re: a4000
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 03:05:46 GMT

>  I upgraded from an A500 to an A3000 over a year ago and have had no regrets. 
> The A3000 has served me well and was and still is worth the money. The most 
> frustrating thing is not knowing if I should should sell the A3000 off and 
> get an A4000 or if I should keep the A3000 and buy a 3rd party graphics card.
> 
>           robert.buonincontro&canrem.com
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We all say Commodore executes some pretty lousy marketing logic.  Why would
C= waste money on ads in Amiga World?!?  Most of the people reading the mag
are Amiga fans anyways.

So what does this have to do with a power up program.  I think the power up
program should also encourage people to switch over from Mac or IBM.  Just
imagine.  The most significant powerup wouldn't be from an A1000 to an A4000.
It would be from a 486/50 running OS2/2.0 to an A4000!

Well, actually, I don't care what they do.  As long as Amiga owners can still
power up.  I guess most IBM/clone people don't care about Amiga.  They don't
really demand all that much.  There's still alot of happy Apple II owners
out there.

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From: pgv@news.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Paul G Vernon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: What in the heck in an 'Archimedes'??
Date: 4 Oct 92 16:24:14 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Originator: pgv@granite


Just A few spec clarifications.

In article <1992Sep19.092915.25722@spuddy.uucp>, spark@spuddy.uucp (Steve) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep18.020118.23698@seas.gwu.edu> gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington) writes:
|> >cadwallader@forty2.enet.dec.com () writes:
|> >>	ARM250 CPU (about 12Mips ?)

The old A3000 (Archi That is) ran at 8MHz, and 4MIPS, Using an ARM2
The new A3010, A3020, A4000, run at 12MHz, and around 6 MIPS, Using the ARM250
Th A5000 Uses the ARM3 chip, which has a (8k ?) instruction cashe, and does
 about 13MIPS


|> >>	16/256 colour graphics  // from 4096

The video chip can produce just about any screen resolution, but competes with
the CPU for the address/data bus (The ARM uses Pipelining), so high res screens
on the A3000, are very slow.
No bit planes, just x bits per pixel (ie 1 byte per pixel for 256 cols)
also only 16 pallete registors.

|> >>	8 stereo pair 8-bit sound  // I thought it was 16-bit ?

|> >>	1 mini-expansion slot internally & the usual things outside

A5000 has a number (4 ?) of full size podules (expansion slots)

|> >>	1Mb RAM up to 2Mb

Generally 4MB max, or more but with trouble..
 

|> >>	RISCOS 3.1
|> >>	RF modulator  // Only in A3010
|> >>
|> >>All for #499. I must say that although I own an Amiga500+ this looks like
|> >>a very high-powered competitor!

For 500 quid yould get A3010, 1MB, 2MB Floppy Drive, 2MB of RiscOS Roms,TV
Modulator,2 Joystick Ports.

or for about #1500 ex VAT, An A5000, 120MB Hard drive, Multisync Monitor, @MB
Floppy, Software (inc. a Software PC emulator at least as fast as a XT :-)

|> >
|> >If that price is anything close to $499, then this machine just blows the
|> >A500+ and A600 out of existence--at least hardware-wise...
|> >

And it goes with out saying that a 24-bit graphics version is roumoured.

Also there is long term development on an asynchronous chip, code compatable
with the ARM !!

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From: david@ariane.cam.org (David Lebel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: WB 3.0 on 3000
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:54:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Ariane Development Group (aka. SilverBox Development Group)
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In article <1992Oct1.83512.7410@ms.uky.edu> jgary@ms.uky.edu (James E. Gary) writes:

> I was wondering if anyone knows if WB 3.0 will work on a 3000. I know that
> the AGA chipset is not supported (yet), but are other features of the OS
> tied to the 3000? I apologize if this has been asked and answered, but

   Yes, Kickstart 3.0 and Workbench 3.0 works great on an Amiga 3000.

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From: ifenton@crc.ac.uk (I. Fenton)
Subject: 24 hours of advocacy...
Organization: MRC Human Genome Resource Centre
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:54:15 GMT

dear net,

looking at teh various advocacy groups here, i notice what 24 hours worth
of advocacy leads to :-

  comp.os.os2         103 postings (mostly os/2 vs. windows-nt)
  comp.sys.amiga       89 postings (mostly amiga vs. atari falcon)
  comp.sys.mac         62 postings (mostly mac vs. pc's)
  comp.os.mw-windows   24 postings (mostly is windows an os ?)
  comp.sys.next        15 postings (mostly should nextstep be cheaper)
  comp.sys.acorn        5 postings (mostly about acorn's share price)

as can be seen most of the discussion is about one system vs. another, rather
than discussion about that particular os/system.  this is interesting as most
groups have their zealots saying that other people should leave their group
alone.  does the net have any comment on these figures ?!


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From: ralph@bugend.edvina.se (Staffan Vilcans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: FALCON VS AMIGA
Date: 6 Oct 92 09:22:59 GMT
Organization: Bugend BBS

hyc@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Howard Chu) writes:

> It would probably make an interesting survey to ask, something like:
> 	do you have a home computer system?
Yes, several.
> 	how long have you owned it?
I bought a Sinclair ZX Spectrum in the summer 1983.
> 	how much have you used it?
A whole lot, then I got an Spectrum 128K, and in 1988 i got an Amiga.
Just said, a Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K, rubber keyboard and all. Nowdays 
it's a 128K with Interface 1 and microdrive. Then I have an Amiga 500, 
1.5 MB memory, 32 MB harddisk. Also a C64 with 1541, a Copam Turbo-PC 
(V20 processor, 512 KB mamory, 40 MB harddisk) and an IPC AT (1 MB 
memory, 20 MB harddisk (and a 40 MB to install when I figure out how)).
> 	are you happy with it?
Spectrum: yes, Amiga: YES, C64: so-so, Copam: not that much, IPC: 
atleast I got it cheap...
> 	if you knew then what you know now, would you still have bought it?

Spectrum: yes, Amiga: yes, C64: probably, Copam: no, I would have 
bought that PDP 11/40 instead, IPC AT: think so

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From: cfury@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Chris Fury)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Open Letter to Dave Haynie!
Date: 3 Oct 92 03:10:33 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch) writes:

>daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
>>>I want to have at LEAST 6 hard drives, a tape backup and a CD ROM in my 
>>>machine.  
>>
>>I can understand the CD ROM and tape backup, but nobody needs 6 hard drives.
>>Larger drives go faster, so if you're really performance concerned, you'd

>Actually, multiple drives can serve a very good puropse, especially in a
>multi-tasking machine.  If i'm doing 2 or 3 disk intensive operations on
>different drives, it takes less time and puts less wear and tear on the drives
>than if they were all done on the same drive.  An example would be importing
>messages into a BBS where you would want your source file on one drive, and
>the destination on another.

A valid argument.  Buy a SCSI card.  The fact is, most of us don't have
and *immediate* need for kinda stuff.  [Please don't flame me, I, like Dave
himself, favor SCSI over IDE.  However, what is the point of over crying
over spilt milk?  I mean Commodore has already put IDE drives in the 4000s.
We can't change that now.  However, they have a SCSI-II card coming out for
it, maybe they'll get a clue and drop this kinda controller in to the next
machines.  But constant complaining is not going to solve the problem...]

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From: 01ksdavis@bsu-ucs.uucp (Rebel without a clue.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: READ ME
Date: 1 Oct 92 02:50:15 GMT


	just wanted everyone to know my Amiga is

	BOOM  BOOM BOOM 

	Still going...

	My life is metal.  My car is metal, my computer case is metal.  My music
is metal.

	Kyle
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From: george@ibmpcug.co.uk (Michael Veltman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,connect.audit
Subject: Re: A4000 at WOC
Date: 24 Sep 92 22:03:41 GMT
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this article are those of the author
	alone and may not represent the views of the IBM PC User Group.

In article <1992Sep22.092004.19989@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au> davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn) writes:
>Writing in assembler doesn't imply not using the OS - it's actually very easy
>to call OS routines in assembler.  Likewise, it's possible to write C code that
>tosses the OS and makes low-level access to registers.
>
Yes.

Its probably a reflection of my own lack of prowess as a programmer, but I never
really understood the exec until I started to use it from assembler.

I guess I just don't understand compilers.

Hmmm

Michael

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Date: 6 Oct 92 19:53:39 GMT+2
Subject: Wb looks (Was: Re: REAL FALCON 030 SPECS)
From: harry@elfuerte.fipnet.fi (Harri P Pesonen)
Distribution: world
Organization: Fipnet, Helsinki, Finland
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article ??? david@ariane.cam.org (David Lebel) writes:
> In article <1aarh5INNd2m@uwm.edu> gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:
> 
> > Perhaps someone could snapshot their WB screens into IFF files and
> > convert them for you to look at, they're damn nice.
> 
>    Here's mine. It's a 720x480x8 IFF screen archive in -lh5-. I have to say
> it's quite nice looking. The Fido Dido (tm) on the background was scanned in
> a magazine by myself and colored after that.
> 
>    Opinion can be redirected to my mailbox...

Sorry, I have to say it publicly: YOUR WORKBENCH IS STUNNING!

What computer do you have?  A4000?  With AmigaDOS 3.0?  Oh boy, I want 3.0
now...

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