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From: terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong)
Subject: Re: Batman vs Lobo
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 00:10:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.211722.631@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER) writes:
|> >great if done by the right creative team. It will deal with the World's
|> >Greatest Detective(..the only person smart enough to beat Superman..)
|> >going up against someone of near-Superman power levels. With all the
|>                              ^^^^
|> 
|> I beg to differ.  Lobo is not of "near" Superman power, but of or over
|> S-man's level.  Remember he nearly killed Supes in the Krpton man story,
|> and he was compleatly drunk.  It even states in Who's Who that he can beat
|> Superman.  I loved the line in the latest D-Day issue where Supes mentions that
|> Dommsday is tougher than Lobo, and that Lobo gave him rough time.  Yet /i'd say it was rough.

While it's true that Lobo beat up Superman the first time they met, there
were extentuating circumstances.   One was Superman was under the influence
of the Eradicator and not reacting like a fighter.  Secondly, Lobo found
Superman's stash of kryptonite and this weakened Superman.

Superman and Lobo have met two subsequent times.  The first time Superman
knocked out both Lar Gand and Lobo by banging their heads together.
The other time, Superman was possessed by Eclipso, and stripped of his
usual inhibitions, he beat Lobo into a near comatose state within a matter
of seconds.  In this encounter, Superman's superior speed was a decisive
factor.

You're right though that Doomsday is the physically toughest foe
that Superman has faced post Crisis.

					terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU
From: jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Tintin Cronology
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:03:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: scott.1992Nov10.220347.1015
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY

curtis@aries.wistar.upenn.edu (curtis wahlgren) writes:
> Do any readers of this group know the chronological order of the Tintin 
> stories? I know it is not not in the order shown on the backs of the books.
> For instance when does Tintin first meet Captain Haddock?

It's in the Shooting Star.

> - The Crab With The Golden Claws.

No.

> But when does he meet the two detectives? (I believe they are called
> Thompson and Thompson in English.)

Hm, I believe that he meets the detectives in the Blue Lotus, but I'm
not sure.  I'll check.

> Does he start out with Snowey? In which issues
> do major characters first appear?

Snowey is there from the beginning.  The first book is entitled Tintin
in the Land of the Soviets, and then comes Tintin in Congo, and then
Tintin in America.  Then Cigars of the Pharos, then the Blue Lotus,
and I don't remember what comes next.  The last two were Flight 747
and Tintin and the Picoras.

> Also it would be interesting if readers in other countries would contribute with
> the title of the series and major characters in their countries.
> 
> English (American)  Title  "Tintin"
>                     Main character - Tintin
>                     Dog - Snowy
>                     Captain - Haddock
>                     Detectives - Thompson & Thompson
>                     Professor - Calculus
> 
> German   Title  "Tim und Strupie"
>          Main character - Tim
>          Dog - Strupie  (struppig means shaggy when applied to a dog)
>          Captain - Haddock
>          Detectives - the Schultzes
>          Professor - Calculus
> 
> Please correct my mispellings and any errors I've made.This is just off my head.
-- 
This is my sig file.
From: Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Hulk
Date: Mon,  9 Nov 92 05:33:22 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
  <lewandow.721014045@cs.wisc.edu> <1dg73mINN7kk@nighthawk.ksu.ksu.edu>
  <BxDCx6.B0n@ns1.nodak.edu>

In regards to Delphi's vision of the Hulk's mental state, laughing with blood
on his hands...why,it was right there in Hulk #400, page 46, panel 1.  I'm
surprised no one has commented on it.

PAD
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From: 910252m@dragon.acadiau.ca (Dwayne MacKinnon)
Subject: Re: Where B They Now?
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:02:52 GMT

f_alfan@pavo.concordia.ca (ALFANI, FABRIZIO) writes:

>Beetle 
Beetle was last seen in a very recent Iron Man, where he, Blacklash and  
Spymaster got the $%^%& beat out of them by James Rhodes

>Madcap
  I last saw him in an issue of Avengers Spotlight, with Hawkeye.... (That
was a while ago........)

>Rom 
Currently on Galador, with his wife, Brandy (they at least *consider* them-
selves married.......)

>Mr.Hyde 
Popped up in Ghost Rider#3 (and got the #$%^& beaten out of him.....)

>Man-thing 
I *really* don't know......

>Scourge 
Turned out there's more than one, and they were all bankrolled and organized
by the Red Skull, in his guise of "Mr. Smith" (Captain America #350)

>There you have it. If anyone (Obscure Trivia Lad???) could fill me in, I would
>be eternally grateful.


Glad to be of service .....

DMK
Acadia University, Wolfville, Nova Scotia, Canada.

"Let the foils be brought, the gentlemen willing and the King hold his 
purpose; I will win for him if I can; If not, I will gain nothing but my
shame, and the odd hits." - Puck quoting Shakespeare in The Crossing Line
From: mre@kepler.unh.edu (Michael R Escutia)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: A.C.L., where are you?
Date: 13 Nov 1992 04:25:21 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
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I managed to find alt.comics.lnh today...and there was nothing in it.  Zilch.
Zip.  Nada.
Being the experimental genious that I am, I posted to a.c.l., asking whoever
reads the posting to send me E-mail telling me so.  Unfortunately, I have
yet to see the posting myself!  :(
Could somebody please tell me what's wrong with this picture?
(Over the net, too.)
Thanx!
				--MikE
 
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From: acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: I'VE SEEN THE FUTURE.....
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:27:53 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

Possible Blasphemy Ahead. Fundamentalists Press Kill Now!

In article <BxFz03.Bo0@matilda.vut.edu.au> jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell) writes:
Coming Soon From Marvel:
>Life Of Christ: Christmas Story (1 of 3) I'm serious.
>It's even written by Louise Simonson.

Oh, I can see it now.

December 25, 0 AD. The Coming of a Hero!
Next Issue: Christ vs. the MoneyChangers. Guest Starring Ghost Rider.
The Adventures of the Twelve Mutants ...err... Disciples.
The Great Question: Who is Really Christ's Father?

And, of course, he's a Marvel character:
HE DIES AND COMES BACK!
-- 
We need not fear those who do evil in the name of evil, but Heaven
protect us from those who do evil in the name of good.
Arthur C. Adams acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil            	<fnord>
No, I'm not the Arthur Adams who draws comic books. Don't even ask.
From: meierdalepau@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Dark Empire #6 release/X-Men movie
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:45:16 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

	I've been following Dark Horse's STAR WARS:  Dark Empire series 
since issue #3 and I heard issue #6 was supposed to be out Monday (the 
10th) due to various delays.  Does anyone know if it made it out or will I 
have to wait longer?  
	
	Speaking about casting for X-Men:  The movie, who do you think they 
should get to play Professor Xavier?  How abou Yul Brenner?  Oh, wait, he's 
dead...  Ah well, c'est la vie.

Dale Meier  
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From: mre@kepler.unh.edu (Michael R Escutia)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: What does LSH stand for?!
Date: 11 Nov 1992 05:30:35 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
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In article <9210946.22@cuslm.ca> 9210946@cuslm.ca (THERIAULT YANICK M.) writes:
>
>	Would someone care to explain to me what LSH mean!!!!  Give the 
>answer out on the net, I'm pretty sure that I'm not the only one that doesn'
>t know this!

Legion of Super-Heroes

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From: imcc@cs.strath.ac.uk (Iain McCord)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: LSH: Evacuating the Earth
Date: 13 Nov 92 11:11:14 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.


  This has probably already been said but...
What just happened in L.E.G.I.O.N ?
Does the Green Lantern corps exist in the LSH's time?
Does it make any kind of sense to try to stop as many people
from evacuating on the cities as possible?  Why was property
more important than people?
Why did they make getting the cities into the buffer zone as
difficult as possible?  The configuration they chose has to 
be one of the worst for what they were trying to do.  Even 
getting the cities into orbit bay not have been necessary 
given their final destination.
The eco-message was also flawed.  Dumping toxic waste in space
isn't a good idea,  but there were other options given access
to space travel that weren't even mentioned.  One of the gas
giants could have dealt with the problem. And if that wasn't
enough, they could have dumped the stuff in the sun, or even
a black hole.  
I can also imagine the Dominators reaction to finding caves 
full of volatile toxins,  using them as secret research bases
wouldn't be one of them.

-- 

		~~~~~/\~~~~~
Iain McCord	~~~~/()\~~~~	Fri Nov 13 11:11:10 WET 1992
		~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: LSH 38:  Da Big One
Date: 5 Nov 92 06:40:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: njitgw.1992Nov5.064019.12752
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <Bx86Bo.F5u@ns1.nodak.edu> lucke@plains.NoDak.edu (Kyle Lucke) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.025101.29922@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:
>>                Interlac used (they said they wouldn't)  Someone translate it 
>>for me...I'm too lazy to dig up my #311.
>
>You mean you don't have the Interlac alphabet memorized? :-)  As soon as I
>receive the most recent issue here in the Northern wastes, I'll post a
>translation, if someone else hasn't already done it.
>
>Interlac.  Makes me think back to when the LSH deluxe series was first
>starting, when I first started reading the LSH, and I went combing through
>all the back issues I had purchased from a friend, just finding little
>instances of Interlac, and making my own little chart of the alphabet. 
>Ah, to be that age again when you could find such pleasure scouring comic
>art for such things.  And then finding out that there already was a
>published alphabet in #311, which I hadn't found in back issues yet.  Ah,
>those were the days...
>
>I enjoy the current version of the LSH, but a part of me will always miss
>those good old days... <sigh>

So, how close was your chart to the real thing?  Just curious.

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
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From: nicholas@next19pg2.wam.umd.edu (Ronnie Simonds)
Subject: Sandman #44:  Endless Speculation (Who dood it?)
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:26:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.012505.29186@netcom.com> dhawk@netcom.com (David  
Hawkins) writes:
> I think this is being done by traps Destruction has in place, *or* a
> Destruction replacement.  Maybe a Destructin offspring?

Now HERE'S a thought...

Suppose Destruction fell in love with a mortal and had a child.

This is pretty clearly against his portfolio (Creation != Destruction :),  
and some of the things that were said between Dream and his African  
paramour imply that immortal-mortal relations are a Bad Thing (because  
humans believe they are); thus this might fall under severe punishment by  
the Kindly Ones or some other agency.

The threat of such punishment- not for him, but for his CHILD-  might be  
the one thing that would lead the kindly, very human Destruction we've  
seen to kill everyone who knew him; to protect his/her identity, rather  
than his own.  This would be the REAL reason he abdicated, although the  
one he gave Dream would still apply; with a long-lived, if not immortal,  
offspring, he suddenly has a LOT of incentive to keep the humans from  
destroying the planet.

-Ronnie "Loony Theory of the Day" Simonds
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From: cornwall@bach.udel.edu (Ray J Cornwall)
Subject: Re: Asking Nicely (was Re: Hulk)
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:45:23 GMT

In article <69440@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
>I did the "Death of Marlo" storyline (which, unfortunately, never resulted
>in the promised black arm bands with the letter "M" on them.  But that
>would have been a bit much) for a variety of reasons--and I will simply say
>that pointlessly depressing the readers was not one of them.  Hang
>tight.

Thanks, PAD...
>
>Just for laughs:  From Hulk #401--
>
>BETTY:  Bruce!  Did you find Rick?  What happ--?
>
>HULK:  Betty...you better sit down.  There's something that might shock
>you.
>
>BETTY:  Bruce, after everything I've been through in my life, nothing
>could possibly...
>
>(Rick walks in, helping Marlo in front of him.  Her stare is blank.
>Betty takes one look at her and then passes out.)
>
>HULK:  Well, she certainly took that in stride.
Just a question, Peter. When you submit plot/script to the artist, is
this the form you use?
Ray Cornwall

P.S. If you DO bring back Marlo (with soul, I mean), will this be the
first Marvel couple ever to have both died and brought back? :)



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From: mss2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer)
Subject: Re: Sandman: More Pointless Ramblings
Reply-To: mss2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 09:08:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.075349.25559@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:
>In article <1992Nov7.055315.1858@athena.cs.uga.edu> jordan@castor (USENET's Chuck) writes:
>>- It hadn't occured to me before, but the most obvious time for Delight
>>  to have become Delirium would've been at the time of the Fall of Adam
>>  and Eve from the Garden of Eden.  Genesis is THE big story for most of
>>  the Christian Western World (I believe Cain and Abel were mentioned 
>>  somewhere as being characters from "the first story," which is why they
>>  show up in Dream's realm.)

>Unless you want to maintain that the Fall happened at one specific date that
>some cultures have calculated wrong, this idea causes multiple-culture problems.
>Different religions date the Fall back to different times, which means that
>there was a time when Delight was Delight for some cultures and Delirium for
>others.

	But no culture with a Fall or Golden Age myth considers
_itself_ pre-Fall.  Sure most cultures got the date wrong-- historical
methodology wasn't even a concept when these myths were developed.  In
the DC universe, Cain and Abel were coexistent with very young
Endless-- which indicates that the Fall happened very soon after the
creation, since that story requires it to have happened earlier.
(Which would contradict Cain and Abel being the first story,
admittedly, unless the "story" is the entire tale of the first family.)

>Worse yet, these cultures all developed the Fall myth long after the supposed
>date of the Fall.  This would mean that Delight changes to Delirium based on a
>mythology that doesn't exist until sometime in the future, which raises
>questions like whether or not the Endless act now based on 25th century myths
>about the 20th Century.  (Alternatively, developing the Fall myth changes the
>past by retroactively affecting Delight's role, which is not much better.)

	Consider it this way: if there is a real Fall, then the myth
is a hazed memory rather than a fiction.  Different cultures
rediscover (or choose to record) the story at different times, but
Delight's nature probably changed to Delirium before people started
writing history down-- possibly before humans evolved.  (There is a
problem in that Gaiman sometimes considers the Endless universal, but
other times makes them very humanocentric.  He doesn't solve the
problem, so I don't propose to.  But note that in _Books of Magic_ he
indicated the existence of "different truths"-- thus, Earth was a
sphere of rock on which life evolved, and Earth was a bowl which first
housed demons, then humanity.  There are alternate futures-- perhaps
there are alternate pasts as well.

Mike
-- 
Michael S. Schiffer, LHN, FCS	"Indeed I tremble for my country
mss2@midway.uchicago.edu	 when I reflect that God is just."
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mss2@amber.uchicago.edu		    Virginia (1784)
From: khale@camilla.Eng.Sun.COM (Abhijit Khale)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Legion of Super-Heroes...
Date: 5 Nov 1992 06:35:22 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: camilla-50

In article <1992Oct31.144321.1@fnalo.fnal.gov> morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (Nearer My Elmo to Thee) writes:

>	Change?  Change is inevitable.  But most of the changes in the series
>have not been the result of development, but the result of writers' fiat.
>And the changes have not led into good stories--the LSH with "Sean" Erin is a
>good example of this; the story went nowhere.

In what sense did the story go nowhere ? It gave us a spotlight on Jan Arrah,
the first since about #27 or so of the third series. It brought up the issue
of Jan's sexuality, which was a open question for quite a while, predating
Levitz. If I had been genuinely concerned about the Sean/Shvaughn character,
I would have been ticked off, but I always thought he/she/it was a nothing
character, unlike the Jan Arrah character, whom I happen to like a lot. 
Bringing in young Jan at the end was a great move as well. 

>	And we aren't allowed to have an opinion?  Or do you subscribe to the
>T&M lettercol philosophy: negative opinions are irrelevant?

I think you're being too harsh on T & M. T & M have published or acknowledged
negative opinions on several occasions, far more so than almost any other DC
comic. They have pointed out positive opinions as well, which I think is a
legitimate point : a number of people (myself included) do like the new
legion. 

As far as receptiveness to public opinion goes, theres no doubt that T & M
have been unresponsive and undiplomatic at times : far more so than say
Levitz who would acknowledge that characters had been underused or who would
reply politely to messages even if he didnt agree with them. On the other
hand, T & M came to legion with an intention of writing the Legion in a parti-
cular style, and I can understand their wanting to stick with that style.
Grant Morrison started writing Doom Patrol in a particular style and I doubt
he would change the style just because some (not all) readers objected (Yes,
T & M are not Grant Morrison in writing skills, but ..). 

Abhijit
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:32:57 EST
From: Spiro the Spiny Goldfish <MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: SYNOPSIS OF MAN OF STEEL#19 WANTED
 <1992Nov13.191400.12393@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>

In the same vein, does anyone else despise Jon Bogdanove's art as much as I do?
----
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TEAM OS/2
From: c60b-3fe@e260-1e.berkeley.edu (Coffee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: LSH: Elizabeth in lettercol!
Date: 10 Nov 1992 20:16:39 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In article <1dokdcINN6oc@alice.cs.purdue.edu> berninge@cs.purdue.edu (James Berninger) writes:
>In article <0eyqCTG00WDKE5mp9_@andrew.cmu.edu> Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>Since such a big deal was made out of Elmo getting mentioned in the
>>lettercol, I thought it would be nice to point out that Elizabeth
>>Holden's letter (regarding #31) was printed (in what appears to be its
>>entirety) in the lettercol of #38....
>
>Hey!  Mine was in there too!  Where's *my* mention?
>Jim Berninger

Because YOU don't fit the your-name-has-to-start-with-an-E-to-be-printed
theorem that he posted along with that.
Therefore he probably pretended you don't exist. :)

Mikel B.  er... El Kim		c60b-3fe@web.berkeley.edu
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From: jcherney@envy.reed.edu (Joel Alexander Charney)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: JC: Hellblazer, and crossovers of same
Date: 10 Nov 92 04:05:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Nov10.040518.11454
Reply-To: jcherney@reed.edu
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1992Nov9.220440.8877@decabo.abo.dec.com>  
wombat@nfinit.enet.dec.com (Christopher M. Conway) writes:
> 
> The truly *scary* thing I've seen is one little bit in the Karen Berger
> interview in the current _Previews_:
> 
> ( quoted w/o permission; this clearly constitutes fair use )
> 
> 	P: Which brings up an interesting point: Now that all these titles
> 		have been grouped under this single editorial banner, what
> 		are the chances of some inter-VERTIGO crossovers? _Swamp
> 		Thing_ / _Animal Man_ seems like a natural.
> 
> 	KB: Actually, we are planning something like that for the end of  
'93--
> 		a crossover (of sorts) running through most of the VERTIGO
> 		annuals, but it's at a very early stage now.
> 
> Gaack! Talk about appalling. We *don't* need this kind of dreck. If I  
wanted
> to read mega-crossovers, I'd be reading Marvel or the stock DC superhero
> stuff (or Image or Valiant, etc.) I strongly suspect that your typical
> "VERTIGO" reader is *not* interested in crossovers.

I may not be typical, then... I'd love to see Constantine interact with  
*anyone* outside Hellblazer; same goes for the Bog God.  (The Sandman  
issue with John in it was one of my faves.)
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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: LSH: Evacuating the Earth
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:30:19 GMT

morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (St. Elmo's Fire):
>At least as I've heard several other people put it, the planetary population
>was 15e9, 2e9 were left to die, leaving 13e9 that were evacuated.
>	That's about a 15% error in evacuation capability...

Weren't we told that some eight billion died in Triple Strike?

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   The inability of snakes to count is actually a refusal, on their part,
    to appreciate the Cardinal Number system. -- "Actual Facts"
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