HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: obrien@netcom.com (Robert O'Brien)
Subject: Tales about guns (was: WAY stupid things to do with...)
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:42:34 GMT


donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) writes:
>In article <1992Dec5.073138.27235@netcom.com> obrien@netcom.com
>(Robert O'Brien) writes:
>>Sorry, there *are* subsonic, single shot _Locked_Bolt_ "fully" silenced
>>weapons.  They're not truly silent, but I could easily make more noise
>>with a typical brown kraft paper lunch sack, and you could convince someone
>>in the next room you were just playing with bubble-pack, assuming they
>>couldn't smell burned powder.
>
>During the Viet Nam war, some soldiers carried silenced semi-auto weapons.
>There are some such guns where you can lock the slide, in order to keep
>the action from making noise (and releasing gases to make more noise).
>Someone in rec.guns recently claimed to have seen or heard of a revolver
>where the cylinder gap was small enough to allow adequate silencing but
>that's a bit of a stretch to believe...
>

"semi-auto"  ...  "lock the slide"    think about it.

Define semi-auto.  Now, lock the slide.  Check your definition.

Selectable action might be the right term.  I've seen reports of
weapons built with  full/semi *and* lock/cycle  selectability,
I believe one was a variant of the AR-15, possibly what you heard of.


Revolver - I'll research it if you insist, there was a Russian revolver,
pre WW1 I believe, named "Nagant" or something pretty similar.  The brass
was a little longer than the cylinder, and the bullet was seated fully
inside the brass. The cylinder moved slightly back before turning,
then forward to fire - the brass actually entered the barrel just enough
to obturate. I have no idea if these were ever silenced.  And I think it
was a _seven_ round cylinder in .30 cal (7.62mm), which should make for a
fairly big gun.

	Bob
From: infidel@cislabs.pitt.edu (todd j. derr)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: "Tabloid Readers Not Dumb"
Summary: Is it just me, or... ?
Date: 14 Dec 92 11:28:00 GMT
Organization: university of pittsburgh cis

In article <27973@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, Terry Chan meant to write:

While most readers do it out of fun and indulge in a guilty 
pleasure, there is a "downside."  The "hard core of Usenet 
readers--are characterized by distrust an alienation from 
the establishment and a feeling of powerlessness.  An important
element in their readings is a form of resistance to dominant
values--an awareness that they 'should' be reading about news
and current affairs but find these boring and irrelevent."


todd "we also feel that we 'should' be doing some WORK, but..." derr
Organization: Hidden - I don't speak for them...
X-Stuff:      <This should be witty, but I'm too tired right now.>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:19:50 EST
From: David B. Horvath, CDP <MBADBH@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: 'Springfield' is NOT a city in all states!
 <1992Dec16.015527.26256@pony.Ingres.COM>

Pennsylvania has atleast two municipalities (I'm not sure if they're
both townships or are Boroughs) that are named 'Springfield'.  Springfield in
Delaware County is a Township, I'm not sure what Springfield in Montgomery
County is.

The counties are adjacent but the Springfields are not.

OB!UL: Pennsylvania has only one 'Town' in the legal sense of the word:
       Bloomsburg.  Everything else is a Township, Borough, City or
       unincorporated.  BTW: Just because the post office, DOT, or map
       gives an area a name doesn't mean it is a political subdivision.

       Haverford Township includes (post office/map) areas of: Ardmore,
       Havertown, Manoa, Haverford, Bryn Mawr, Coopertown, Brookline,
       and a few more that I don't remember.

    - David
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: 'Springfield' is NOT a city in all states!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:50:37 GMT

David B. Horvath, CDP <MBADBH@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com> writes:

>Pennsylvania has atleast two municipalities (I'm not sure if they're
>both townships or are Boroughs) that are named 'Springfield'.  Springfield in
>Delaware County is a Township, I'm not sure what Springfield in Montgomery
>County is.
>
>The counties are adjacent but the Springfields are not.

	Multiple townships with the same name in one state is
common.  In Ohio, there are at least 20 of Washington, Jefferson,
Adams townships, along with lots of other dead white men, as well
as a lot of dead Indians having n>1 townships named after them.

Jon "Namely" Papai
From: joltes@husc10.harvard.edu (Richard Joltes)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Top Secret Bandages
Date: 11 Dec 92 16:51:10 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <92342.201505MIWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <MIWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:

>     The U.S. disavowed any knowledge, but shortly thereafter, the packaging
>requirements for Curad Bandages changed in a very subtle way. After that,
>you could tell if the bandage had been tampered with by pulling the two
>sides of the outer wrapper apart in the dark. If it was safe, a brilliant
>(albeit slightly dim) blue light could be plainly seen, (assuming it was
>dark enough, and your eyes adjusted).
>     After that, Curad's command of foreign markets skyrocketed as they
>replaced Band-Aid brand bandages in everyplace that Western agents and
>dignitaries lived or stayed.
>     This blue light scheme spread to many other products including food
>packages. While many of these products have dropped this scheme becuase of
>cost, it has widely been acknowledged as the best way of tamper-proofing
>products, even though it was not made clear on the packaging; only certain
>people were told to look for this. To this day, Curad wrappers still emit
>this blue light.

Furrfu!  Any photographer who's done darkroom work knows that the "blue
light" phenomenon has been around for years.  Anytime you pull the tape from
the end of an exposed roll of film you'll get the same effect.  It's either
static from the adhesive or some photochemical reaction that's common in any
type of masking tape and other similar compounds.  At first I thought it was
just from the "special" tape used in production film, but then I started
noticing it even in the rolls I'd made up from my bulk loader using standard
garden-variety masking tape.

Massive UL alert here...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dick "stick to it!" Joltes				joltes@husc.harvard.edu
Hardware & Networking Manager, Computer Services 	joltes@husc.bitnet 
Harvard University Science Center

"Mind you, not as bad as the night Archie Pettigrew ate some
sheep's testicles for a bet...God, that bloody sheep kicked him..."
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.drugs,alt.drugs.usenet
From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken (was: Re: Brands of LSD)
Organization: Microdata Oy
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:03:15 GMT

"Stephen M. Lacy" <sl31+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>I just want to say that the apparent knowledge of drugs on the network
>and the volume of people that have significant knowledge makes me
>utterly sick.

   Yes, it seems that knowledge pisses a lot of people off for some reason.
As a matter of fact, quite a few people have been burned alive because of this.

>Is there something about computers that forces you all to take drugs

   Yes! Whenever we don't have access to the hardest drug of them all
(Internet), we'll have to resort to other means. Because of the rapid tolerance
built to "News", one of the most popular Internet derivatives, we also
have to combine it with other drugs in order to achieve the desired effect.

>or do you just hang out with people who and that's how you
>get your knowledge...

  Ah! But that's it! I've always wondered why I fuck up my mathematics courses.
You have just given me the answer: Because I don't hang out with
mathematicians.

>This whole discussion of LSD has gone too far and is upsetting me more
>with every post.

   Me too. But probably not for the same reasons.

>"I can't understand what makes a man hate another man, help me
>understand." -Depeche Mode

   Inflated ego. Separatism. Racism. Poor self-esteem. Inability to perceive
the beauty of life in itself.
--
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		  Religion is the DMT of the masses.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,ba.politics,ca.politics,talk.politics.misc
From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: They used to think...
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 06:07:06 GMT

jane@soave.swdc.stratus.com (Jane Beckman) relates a story she's
heard:

>"You know, they say early man didn't understand about sex.
>You know, babies just came.  They didn't make the connection
>that sex had anything to do with it, because babies came so
>much later.  Sex was one thing, and having babies was another.
>That's why there was a mother goddess, but no father goddess.
>They didn't realize babies had fathers, too."

	I heard this about natives of Australia and/or New Guinea.
Although it may just be one of those stories told to make their
repression seem OK.

>And I realized I'd heard this one a couple times.  Sounds a
>lot like "In Columbus' time, everyone thought the world was
>flat."

	In Columbus, the world IS flat.  Not a hill in sight.

>And besides, how are we to know what folks thought about sex,
>back at the dawn of history?  It's not like they left sex
>manuals behind.

	If the aboriginal stories are true, I suppose we could
ask.  Some folks in New Guinea were, until very recently, living a
lifestyle substantially unchanged for a very long time.

	Jared Diamond wrote an article in Discover Mag. about a
year ago about some of the sex practices of a tribe in New Guinea
that I would call complete UL if told by anyone other than him.

ObUL _The Great American Novel_ has an excellent chapter about the
introduction of Baseball to Africa.  Interesting sex practices.

Jon "2. sex__  (m) (f) (twice a day) " Papai
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From: trelford@trelford.Eng.Sun.COM (Trelford Pinkerton)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Sex, the Final Frontier?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 05:57:58 GMT
Organization: Bob
NNTP-Posting-Host: trelford


Now that Terry has raised the question of lust-crazed trekkies,
I would like to ask for further elucidation myself.

First, what is the etiquette concerning the use of the holodeck?
Would it be frowned upon if Cmdr Riker ordered the computer to
produced the likenesses of Deanna Troi and Dr "Ball" Crusher,
both dressed as leather-clad fetish-inducing hose monkeys?

What if Wesley did this?  What if the captain did it, and ordered
the image of Wesley to watch?

I saw the Captain call up an Arabian horse on the holodeck for
him to ride, just a few days ago.  What if he extended his "riding"
to other mammals?  Space can be pretty lonely, and no one can
hear you cream.

Why does Whoopi Goldberg always appear in a funny hat?

Doesn't anyone ever give in to the urge to scramble Data's diodes
by running a powerful magnet over the back of his head?

Personally, I felt that "Dr Who" is better -- which is not saying much.


Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: thumper@engin.umich.edu (Bob Topping)
Subject: Re: Another University Exam One
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 01:28:11 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <Bz9trt.I8I@hpuerca.atl.hp.com> mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser) writes:
>In <Bz9o92.8y@cs.dal.ca> craig@ug.cs.dal.ca (Ryan Craig) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Dec14.182412.28582@u.washington.edu> nicolett@carson.u.washington.edu (Nicolette Roberge) writes:
>>>
>>>I once had a high school physics teacher give a test that started with the
>>>severe admonition to read the entire test before beginning to answer any
>>>questions.  The last line on the last page (3 pages?) was to initial the
>>>last page and sign your name on the front. And to sit quietly until the
>>>end of the test period. 
>>>
>>>Nicolette "he pretty much tested what he taught us" Roberge
>>>
>
>>This sort of test is an urban legend, but I did have a teacher, who
>>undoubtedly had heard this UL, who once gave me a test like this, just to
>>see if we actually followed the directions on the test, I guess.

    Are you sure it wasn't to test whether or not you read a.f.u?

  --Bob "I took it, and read the instructions first!" Topping  
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: maynard@leah.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley)
Subject: Re: Gay Likelihood
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:12:44 GMT


>A recent survey of sexual habits carried out in the UK recently (results
>published in Nature) came to the conclusion that almost 12 percent of all
>males in London have had some homosexual experience.
>
The whole reason people keep wanting more explicit figures is this sort of
thing. What does a "homosexual experience" mean? When some guy was thirteen
he and his friend masturbated together? I don't see that this number of 12%
has much relationship at all to the percentage of men who feel homosexual
or bi-sexual.

Maynard
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.college
From: dwight@devnet.la.locus.com (Dwight Tovey)
Subject: Re: College Folklore
Reply-To: dwight@locus.com
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:54:38 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.015825.23171@news.unomaha.edu>, torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu 
(Torsten Wesley Adair) writes:
|> thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu  writes:
|> > In article <#4h2xbc@rpi.edu> kasprj@rpi.edu writes:
|> > > Has anyone else heard any college folklore?
|> > At Brandeis, there's a statue that does absolutely nothing at all when
|> > a virgin walks past it.
|> 
|> And how does one know when a virgin walks by?  And what good is a statue that
|> can't identify virgins?  
|> 
|> Torsten at Omaha	looking for a divining rod for virgins  (the one I was
|> 			born with doesn't differentiate, which is why I have 
|> 			not fixed it yet)

It's what the statue does when a non-virgin walks by that is the interesting part.

-- 
  Dwight Tovey                          | I didn't claw my way to the top of
  Locus Computing Corp.	                | the food chain to eat vegetables.
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: Bruce.Tindall@launchpad.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall)
Subject: Re: The salami strikes back
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:37:33 GMT

There is a chapter on salami scams in, ahem, "Did Mohawks Wear Mohawks?"
But its sleazy authors, with only one M.A. and nary a Ph.D. between them,
didn't give any footnotes.  However, I have it on Good Authority (tm) 
that a couple of useful sources in addition to those cited by my
Norwegian colleague are:
 
William E. Perry et al., "Understanding Computer Crime" (3772 Realty Rd.,
Dallas, Texas 75244: Chantico Publishing, 1986)
 
Thomas Whiteside, "Computer Capers" (New York: Thomas Y. Crowell, 1978),
some of the contents of which had appeared in "The New Yorker" magazine.
 
The salami scam predates computers.  Bob Cratchit types (ho ho ho) had
done the same thing with pen and paper years before Turing and von N'man.
The "salami" term is said to have been coined by one Donn Parker, who
cited one case where about 25 cents was taken from 300 accounts each
business day -- about $19,000 a year, tax-free, a year.  DON'T TRY THIS
AT HOME.  
--
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: N.W. Choe <nwc1@midway.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Re: snuff-like rape video
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7565A8016027489@sl-mac-9.rh.uchicago.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 17 Dec 92 22:25:36 GMT
Organization: Beaver Consulting Co.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d13
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:31:06 GMT

In article <17DEC199208541497@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov> Larry Oberle,
oberle@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov writes:
>So now we have at least one alleged rape on tape, with the tape
used for 
>profit (albeit extortion).  Presumably, had they run out of
viedotape, they 
>would have stopped the rape in order to get more.  

Gee, how long did this go on? Even at the fastest speed, this means
two hours
or so (depends upon format). Oh, no one said that it was contiguous.
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal)
Subject: Re: Mnemonics
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 05:20:43 GMT

In <92344.084523PBONG@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> <PBONG@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> writes:

Apparently, and remember this comes from a landlubber who heard it when
he was half his current age, the Port side is *called* port because
that's the side of the ship that was up against the dock when the ship
is *in* port.  So I'm told . . .

>And from television land, the color bars
>white,yellow,cyan,green,violet,red,blue

The colours are organised from lightest to darkest, a fact you can
easily verify by turning down the colour saturation control on your TV.

Tim Pickett
(so what's This got to do with ST?)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: WAY stupid things to do with guns (was self-i
Organization: The Ohio State University
 <8700.3973@stratus.SWDC.Stratus.COM>
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 07:29:03 GMT

jane@soave.swdc.stratus.com (Jane Beckman) writes:
>
>>>>During the Civil War, many soldiers lost fingers trying to touch cannon
>>>balls as they flew past...
>>
>>Cool! Did you hear this from Shelby Foote?
>
>Lots of original accounts told, not of fingers lost, but folks
>who tried to stop skipping/rolling cannon balls with their
>feet, and losing a foot or leg.  Apparently, they *looked*
>harmless, kind of like a soccer ball, but packed a helluva
			  ^^^^^^ ^^^^
>punch, even at fairly slow speeds.  Lot of mass in a cannon
>ball.
>

	I don't think your average ACW participant was
TERRYbly familiar with soccer.  Primative forms of baseball
seemed to be the popular game.  An awful lot of soldiers
were cripled due to stupidity, though.

ObUL Baseball was not invented by a civil war general.

Jon "Tampa Giants? " Papai
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Fruitcake
Keywords: hungry preservatives brick prehistoric recycling karma
Date: 18 Dec 92 01:29:20 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Dec17.213826.28695@netcom.com> obrien@netcom.com (Robert O'Brien) writes:
>In the regional newsgroup ba.general, 
|
|banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn) writes:
|>
|>	I love fruitcake.
|>
|>	If you receive a fruitcake this christmas and do not want it,
|>	please send me mail.  I will take it from you.
|>
|>-- 
| 
| ***   AHA!   ***
| 
|for years, I've suspected that there were only so many fruitcakes to go
|around, and that they only have to fire up the fruitcake factory if
|somebody decides to actually _eat_ one of the things.  I've always
|figured there was some way that they were recycled, 

And turned into hockey pucks.

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From: twcaps@dante.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Gay Likelihood
Date: 16 Dec 1992 06:03:34 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.13.76

For some reason, Jane Beckman's recent post reminds me of a 
story I recently heard.  A friend of mine recalls seeing in 
_The Daily Cal_ (student newspaper of the Univ. of Cal., 
Berkeley) in the 1960s, a story that "10% of the student 
population" was gay.  

Within a week, he saw a similar headline in the _San Francisco 
Chronicle_ which then reported that "10% of all students at the 
Univ. were gay."  Shortly followed by a story that reported that 
"10% of all people are gay."  Then he recalled seeing it written
up in other papers.

He has since heard this statistic quoted by various acquaintances
over the years, but ran into more people in the last year or so
who mentioned this.

Has anyone heard any similar stories?  Can anyone shed any light
on the veracity of the stat?

Terry "or is that 'voracity'?" Chan
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From: smidt@fy.chalmers.se (Peter Smidt)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Mnemonics
Date: 17 Dec 92 01:48:20 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology

>annie@whoville.manassas.ibm.com () writes:
>
>>In article <Bz3n49.830@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca>, schamber@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Sylvain Chamberland) writes:
>>|> In article <6u8mVB1w165w@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz> system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall) writes:
>>|> >
>>|> >Only problem is that this is wrong. Pluto is closer to the sun that Neptune.
>>|> 
>>|> Where did you get that???
>>|> 
>>|> I'm no astronomer, but back in high school, people told me Pluto is the
>>|> 9th planet and was discovered only because of ambiguities in Neptune's
>>|> orbit...
>>|> 
>
>>When I was in 5th grade, we learned something similar to the
>>above phrase, and it too indicates that Pluto is the ninth planet:

Well, the orbit of Pluto is a little odd. In a part of its orbit
it is not the farthest away planet.

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