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From: rorem@lclark.edu (Eric Rorem)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Making people LESS tickelish
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:59:50 GMT
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <1992Nov18.184946.23652@pellns.alleg.edu> clarkw@alleg.edu writes:
>I have a rather intimate friend at the moment. When we get togehter we  
>will talk and sometime rub each others backs, after a while that leads to  
>more intimate areas of rubbling. 
>	The problem is that she is quite tickelish in on area ( her  
>breasts )  I was wondering if anyone out there has any idea on how we  
>could possible work on this to make her less tickelish
>

i identify with you here, except my friend has ticklish legs and feet.
this is fairly common.  in one of my message classes my instructor adressed 
this problem by making us make firm contact right away.  no light touch. 
i don't mean cruch her.  maybe full hands with firm pressure.  working like 
this it was amazing how much less she was tickled and how much more she 
enjoyed it.

anyways,
good luck,

eric
rorem@lclark.edu
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From: mlh6@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael L. Haynes)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: backrub scents
Date: 18 Nov 1992 03:45:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


Tina,

        Just a few favorites.   I find almond or sandal wood
relaxing, if not over done.  Peppermint seems to be a universal
pick me up.  Depending on the mood rose or violet can be
either relaxing or arousing.  Sage seems to have different
effects on different people, but then, so do all scents to a
lesser degree.  If you like the smell of something, try it.  I\
once had a friend who loved the smell of leather (easy on
the replys guys)  and somehow scented oils to fit.

        Mike
From: jason@pursuing (Jason Sarner)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Making people LESS tickelish
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:39:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.184946.23652@pellns.alleg.edu> Masticating Thespian  
( the chewing actor ) writes:
> I have a rather intimate friend at the moment. When we get togehter we  
> will talk and sometime rub each others backs, after a while that leads  
to  
> more intimate areas of rubbling. 
> 	The problem is that she is quite tickelish in on area ( her  
> breasts )  I was wondering if anyone out there has any idea on how we  
> could possible work on this to make her less tickelish
> 
>Try nibbling. 
> -
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: pbray@nextweek.Reed.Edu (Peter Bray)
Subject: Scents
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:23:25 GMT



	I have been hearing for quite some time about scents for  
backrubbing.  i don't get it.  What exactly are they?  Are they  
lubricants?  Or, more, are they just nice smelling oils to please the  
olfactory senses?  Can someone tell me.  Also, do you buy these or make  
them yourself?  If they are easily made could someone provide a recipe.
	I have been reading this newsgroup for over a year and have always  
been confused when oils and scents are mentioned.  Could someone please  
provide some basic information for us neophytes out there.  Please could  
you email directly to me as well as post.

	Thankyou,
	Peter
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: marcuss@microsoft.com (Marcus Stringer)
Subject:  Seattle Search
Date: 23 Nov 92 05:12:00 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Keywords: Metro Puget Sound

BTW....

anybody in the Seattle/Puget Sound area on this group?
Any groups in METROLAND?
From: ARCHER@utkvm1.utk.edu (T. Archer)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Reply to some stuff
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:21:40 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee

In article <BxtKLx.IJM@sunfish.usd.edu> soswald@charlie.usd.edu writes:
>word  word for prejudice it would be  "intolerance".  The western culture is
>the only culture that has never made room for people who choose to live their
>lives differently.  That goes for gays, gurus, hermits, women, children,

Ummm.... This is so far of the topic of backrubs that I hate to post, but I 
can't let this comment pass.  Western society has no monopoly on 
intolerance, xenophobia, and hate.  In africa, even today, there are 
horrible massacres in the next villiage over, because they are outsiders, 
not of the tribe, and therefore do not count.  You think it's bad over here, 
try being gay in Russia.  Or ANYWHERE that islam holds a firm grip on the 
culture.  By the way, you know how Mohammed unified the arabs under Allah?  
He had a holy crusade that made the christian Crusades look like a garden 
party.  

None of this makes intolerance right, or just, but do not condemn my culture 
for being the only intolerant one.  PEOPLE are intolerant, the world over.

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Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: cherokee@gators.b30.ingr.com (Lori Ludick)
Subject: Re: Reply to some stuff
Reply-To: cherokee@gators.b30.ingr.com.
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:07:06 GMT

In article <1e9du6INNl4h@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, mlh6@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael L. Haynes) writes:
|> 
|> Jude
|> 
|>         My point is that yes it is wrong.  But the first step to
|> getting over it is to admit it and then talk about it.  Several
|> people started this process and you flamed them for the effort.
|> Thats a great way to keep people from trying.  If they cant talk
|> about it on a board like this, where are they going to talk about
|> it? 
|> 
|> 	Had the coments been more along the line of 'why do you 
|> feel that way?' or ' Do you think that is approiate?' I wouldn't
|> have had a problem.  I just felt that the method was harsh and
|> counterproductive.
|> 
|> 	Mike
|> 
|> P.S.  Sorry about the :-(...    Hope a 8-) grows back fast!
|> 

	I agree that this topic should be discussed,but this is not the board to do
it in. Can you-all please take this discusion to email or alt.politics.homosexual,
or some other board that is appropiate.
This is a board to discuss ways and techniques of massage not peoples sexual
orientation and judgements about peoples personal choices.


Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: sasqatch@access.digex.com (Sasquatch)
Subject: Re: Scents
Keywords: essential oils aromatherapy scent 
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:41:27 GMT

It seems that with all of the discussions here about oils, no one has
mentioned *my* personal favorite (and one that I had thought to be one
of the more common):

             CINAMMON!  

Note:  this is one that you do NOT want to put anywhere near the skin in 
its undiluted form.  When mixed properly, it will warm the skin just 
enough to loosen up but not enough to cause any type of pain.  And besides
that, it smells WONDERFUL  >:-)>=
 
--
This has been another 
blithering message from...                    --Sasquatch
Sasqatch@access.digex.com

Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: gollera@carn24.alleg.edu (April Goller)
Subject: Looking for a teacher
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:29:56 GMT

I noticed the earlier post about a search for a massage instructor and I'd  
like to ask the same question.  Iam looking for someone to teach the act  
of massage.  I am currently living in Meadville , Pa (also known as  
mudville) and attending Allegheny College.  I am originally from  
Cleveland, Oh.  It would be appreciated if someone would help me locate  
one.  Failing this, a list of helpful books would be nice.  My name is  
April.  Thanks.
					ALG  @-}---


P.S.  I will apoligize ahead of time for any mistakes that I have made in  
posting.  I can find no one here that could answer my questions.  Sorry,   
help in this catagory would  be nice too. = -) !
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: jamie@csd.uwo.ca (J. Blustein)
Subject: Re: Scents
Reply-To: jamie@uwo.ca (J. Blustein)
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:10:10 GMT
Followup-To: alt.backrubs
Summary: Essential oils can be dangerous, be careful.
Keywords: essential oils aromatherapy scent 

In article <1epgq9INNhes@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
mlh6@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael L. Haynes) wrote:
>[...]      The most common methods of scenting are either to
>use food flavorings or the "essential oils."  The former are 

In the words of Caroline Knight <cdfk@otter.hpl.hp.com>:
 ------
 Warning: essential oils can be dangerous. Dilute before applying to skin -
 some should never be applied to skin. Get a good book on the subject before
 experimenting with unusual oils.
 ------

Here is someone else's advice about scents and essential oils.
In <1992Mar10.201947.25241@ils.nwu.edu> mead@ils.nwu.edu (donald) wrote:

>I have a personal penchant for sandalwood oil in my almond oil.  Sweet
>sandalwood oil (from Bangalor) is nicer IMHO than the woodier oil from
>Mysor.  Its also much harder to find and more expensive.
>
>As to essential oils that irritate, browsing a book on aromatherapy
>would serve you well.  It wouldn't hurt those interested in using
>scents as a mood enhancer during massage (in the lubricant or
>otherwise dispersed in the environment.)  The only essential oil that
>I know is considered safe at full concentration is cammomille (SP?).
>All other you should (in the words of Dr. Bronner) "dilute, dilute,
>dilute."  If there is any question about a particular essential oil
>and a special person's sensitivity play doctor and do a test patch of
>the diluted oil rubbing some on a somewhat sensitive area like the
>inside of a forearm.  If there's any irritation after several min.
>just don't use that oil, or if mixed it strond dilute more.
>
>I use some essential oils on myself undiluted without adverse effect.
>I particularly like a combination of sandlewood (a calming base) with
>ylang-ylang (excitatory/stimulating) and rose.  Its ever so pleasant.
>Now if you mix something like this in a massage oil then you create
>a wonderful scentual environment for the session that both partners
>can carry away with them to maintain the state entered in through
>massage.  Maintaining the same scents for different types of sessions
>can build a very strong association between scent and mood so that it
>becomes easier to enduce the desired effects of a session leaving the
>rest of the time to bask in the fully hightened experience.
>
>Other recommendations on scents include jasmine oil, opium (a premixed
>scent), verbena oil (very lemony), melissa oil (tres sweet floral
>essence), narcissa oil (extreemly expensive Egyptian extract thats
>devine), ...
>
>If you want a quick re-entry into the wonderful world of scents pick
>up an aromatherapy quick reference card at your local natural beauty
>supply shop.  Just follow your nose.
-- 
James Blustein                                        `Did you say "knives"?'
<jamie@uwo.ca>                                        `*Rotating* knives, yes.'
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: weaver@kuttner.sfc.sony.com (Eric Weaver)
Subject: Re: Reply to some stuff
Organization: SONY Advanced Video Technology Center San Jose, CA USA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:46:48 GMT


In article <1e5cd1INN7gt@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>, ST201434@brownvm.brown.edu (jude) writes:

|>      First of all, I understand what all of you are saying about the social
|> stigma of homosexuality.  I mean, obviously there is prejudice.  Yes, many
|> boys grow up fearing what there friends will think.  I never said that was not
|> true.  Hoewever, doesn't there come a time when you outgrow these things?  No,
|> maybe a 13 year old boy does not have the social maturity, experience, and
|> self-confidence to stand up for what is wrong, but why not a grown man?  The
|> prejudice against homosexuals is just as wrong as racism or any other kind of
|> hate.  It cannot be justified by saying, oh, i'm homophobic, and maybe that's
|> not great, but everyone is, so that's okay.  The fact that everyone is is NOT
|> okay.  But as long as noone stands up and says something, it won't stop.
|> 
|>      -jude       :-(  dammit, why?

A lot of males never make it past the mental age of 13, as can be seen by
some of the other followups to your post.  A grown man with peers of that
level of acuity is culturally still in 7th grade.   Usually they grow out
of it by, say, 40 or so.  In this humble one's experience.

-- 
Eric Weaver  Sony AVTC  677 River Oaks Pkwy, MS 35  SJ CA 95134  408 944-4904
& Chief Engineer, KFJC 89.7 Foothill College, Los Altos Hills CA 94022
-- 
Eric Weaver  Sony AVTC  677 River Oaks Pkwy, MS 35  SJ CA 95134  408 944-4904
& Chief Engineer, KFJC 89.7 Foothill College, Los Altos Hills CA 94022
From: ST201434@brownvm.brown.edu (jude)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Aromatherapy
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 22:17:41 EST
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: brownvm.brown.edu
News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta

In light of recent discussion, does anyone out there have any experience
with aromatherapy, or any info that can be shared with the rest of us?

I don't know much about it beyond the whole concept of stimulating all the
senses, which I try to do anyway.  Scented candles, which also provide a
pleasant visual picture, and good music help the scene.  Taste is the only
sense not stimualted.

                           -jude, whose SO just got back after 6 weeks :)

So I asked this God a question and by way of firm reply
He said "I'm not the kind you have to wind-up on Sundays"
        -JTull
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Reply to some stuff
From: soswald@charlie.usd.edu
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:29:56 GMT
Reply-To: soswald@charlie.usd.edu
Organization: The University of South Dakota Computer Science Dept.

In article <92320.134257LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu>, <LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu> (Your worst nightmare) writes:
>Here is my blatent opinion..Gays suck dick!  It is just morally wrong in my opi
>nion.   It's okay to have a good guy/girl friend, but the line stops when the s
>ex thing comes in ex) Bill says "hey Ted I'm feeling rather horny today, so why
>don't you bend over for a sec...(use your imagination).
>
>===lOnG-Man...aka LoNg-mAN
>
>p.s. Maybe I should also post this in alt.homosexual...heh heh heh '8 )=

All these keystrokes about gays are really making me angry.  If you want a one
word  word for prejudice it would be  "intolerance".  The western culture is
the only culture that has never made room for people who choose to live their
lives differently.  That goes for gays, gurus, hermits, women, children,
Indians, blacks, and just about anything else that narrow minded, uneducated
people can hate.  And you don't have to lack a college degree to be uneducated.
If you're perceived with any differences at all, this society will make
you an outcast.  Yes, it's very bad in the middle school years as far as peer
pressure.  But who let's it happen?  If we want our children and grandchildren
to grow up in a better world, we'd better start paying attention to what values 
we're teaching them now.  The other question I have is:  What ever happened to 
personal freedom?  Was this country founded because the pilgrims were being
presecuted for their choice of a different alternative?  A different way of
looking at their God?


                                 S. J.
   
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: sfjr@wam.umd.edu (Steve Russell)
Subject: Re: Hetboy - Bashing
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:25:09 GMT

In article <ARCHER.439.721937108@utkvm1.utk.edu> ARCHER@utkvm1.utk.edu (T. Archer) writes:
>Frankly, I'm getting REAL tired of admitting that I am not uncomfartabel 
>with homosexuality, and that I have reservation and then being slammed/
>flamed/smeared as a nazi-racist-homophobe.
>
>I don't really give a damn about what people do to each other as long as it 
>doesn't involve me.
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>Vote Dempublican, it's easier than thinking.
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

I agree.  I feel the same way.  I have no problem with homosexuality.  I 
also find it ironic that SOME throw the term(s) "Forced Hetersexuality",
"Madatory Heterosexuality" around and then label people as Homophobes
if they dont want to interact with their own sex in certain ways.

Steve R
From: maya@rahul.net (Steven C. Goodrich)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Comments on _The Massage Book_ wanted
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:45:20 GMT
Organization: a2i network

I picked up that book several yyears ago and I found it to be a veryy good
intoductoryy guide

To anyone out there who wants to flame me for myy last post (as cn351) this is my (for 6 months probablyy ) more usu acct

steve
-- 
Steven C. Goodrich <maya@rahul.net>
From: schlecht@plains.NoDak.edu (Nem (Ryun) Schlecht)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Reply to some stuff
Date: 16 Nov 92 02:16:48 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


In article <92320.134257LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu> <LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu>
 (Your worst nightmare) writes:
>Here is my blatent opinion..Gays suck dick!  It is just morally wrong in my
>opinion. 
>
>===lOnG-Man...aka LoNg-mAN
>


Although I do agree with you, I don't like flaming people.  I am
against homosexuality because God, my savior, has explicitely said
that it is incorrect for such behavior.  All those who commit such
sins will burn in hell.  I'm not a bible pusher, so nobody flame me
that.  I will gladly read any other flames - of which I will totally
ignore.

I feel sorry for homosexuals.  They need to find Jesus and God to
help them.

-----
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From: ted.bianco@madness.network23.com (Ted Bianco) 
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: BACKRUB SCENTS
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:49:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: ted.bianco@madness.network23.com (Ted Bianco) 

Tina...Strawberry...Has to be the best smell on earth...
From: arnett@unixg.ubc.ca (Bill Arnett)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Reply to some stuff
Date: 17 Nov 1992 01:50:34 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca

In article <BxtICH.GHx@monitor.com> michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson) writes:
>In article <BxsEC0.BxI@ns1.nodak.edu> schlecht@plains.NoDak.edu (Nem (Ryun)  
>Schlecht) writes:
>> In article <92320.134257LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu> <LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu>
>>  (Your worst nightmare) writes:
>> >Here is my blatent opinion..Gays suck dick!  It is just morally wrong in  
>my
>
>> Although I do agree with you, I don't like flaming people.  I am
>> against homosexuality because God, my savior, has explicitely said
>> that it is incorrect for such behavior.  All those who commit such
>
>I just started subbing to this group, but I think I'll unsub now.  The  
>group's full of homophobic assholes, politically correct overseers, and  
>totally wack jesus freaks.  No thanks.
			
...and you forgot to mention impatient perfectionists, like yourself! :) :)
:) :) :) :) ...(is that enough smiles?)

Seriously, I think you just described all of Usenet.  I've followed quite
a few groups and every one of them had spells where the signal to noise
ratio was almost nil.  Massage is supposed to be about relaxing.  So relax,
flow with it, and learn to use a kill file for threads that don't interest
you.

Bill.

-- 
Bill Arnett                            Internet: arnett@unixg.ubc.ca
From: chorwit1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Cathy Horwitz)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Group Workshop
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:45:47 GMT
Organization: Swarthmore College

Hi,
													I was wondering how many of us are from the PA area.  I would
be very interested in trying to arrange a group training session.   This
would be a safe and fun way to get to know each other and to share
techniques.  If your interested please e-mail me.               Thanks,
																																																																																																																																																																					Cathy
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: cmarble@linus.claremont.edu (Chris Marble)
Subject: Comments on _The Massage Book_ wanted
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:39:22 PST

I picked up a copy of _The Massage Book_ recently and I was wondering if
anyone out there has any strong opinions about this book.
  I've been
hand and back massages at Science Fiction conventions for years.  Some
people come back to me year after year.  Closest thing to any formal
training I've had was a 3 hour workshop at this years World Science
Fiction Convention.  The group all had some experience so the host
spent the time showing ways to massage without making yourself quite so
tired at the end.
  The book seems to be more into oil, energy, body awareness and the
like.  Are the massage techniques it introduces good ones?
-- 
    Chris Marble - Publicist for Amiga Tech Users Group (ATUG)
     Unemployed engineer so my opinions must not matter much.
From: cms2839@ultb.isc.rit.edu (a.stranger)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: backrub scents
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:43:11 GMT
Organization: Minimalist Music for Hyperactive Children (MMHC)
Originator: cms2839@ultb


				peppermint makes your skin cool and
tingly . eucalyptus has a great piney scent . almond and orange are also
cool .

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From: cn351@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven C. Goodrich)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re:frontrubs
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:16:56 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


This is both a test and a response.  Generallyy I like to give/receive all bodyy massages.
(this might partiallyy repeat last line) give/receive all-body 
massages.  This mayy or may not be sexual in nature (when was
the last time yyou got a hard on when the doctor examined your
balls (equiv for females)?  I think it really depends on the
parameters set up at the beginning of the massage.  Massage cn e great forplay
(retype:) can be great foreplay or entirelyy non-sexual,
regardless (almost) of where yyour hands are (and I'll
also sayy [here comes the flames] yyou can bring a woman off
tactiallyy (sp) to  relax her and leave it at that)
So i'm not defending the original "frontrubs" poster, cause
I don't know where he's coming from.  But at the same time
I'm sayying don't read into things that aren't necessarily there

tyypos: double chars are caused byy the damage to this pc caused
by bouncing down a flight a stairs
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: weaver@kuttner.sfc.sony.com (Eric Weaver)
Subject: Re: fuck me
Organization: SONY Advanced Video Technology Center San Jose, CA USA
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:44:55 GMT


(name withheld) writes:
|> I feel so fucken horny.. I want someone to fuck me up the asshole
|> Someone who is a faggot.. I'm jaking off right now.. I love men!!!!!
|> 
|> please email me! I want hot sex from anything!!! 
|> 

Let this be a warning, boys & girls:  LOG OUT when you're done, lest
someone post a message like that in YOUR name...
-- 
Eric Weaver  Sony AVTC  677 River Oaks Pkwy, MS 35  SJ CA 95134  408 944-4904
& Chief Engineer, KFJC 89.7 Foothill College, Los Altos Hills CA 94022