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From: franks@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Other Goofy Songs (was Re: Worm song?)
Date: 9 Apr 92 08:57:50 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Apr7.180924.2588@ohsu.edu>, lawder@ohsu3b2.ohsu.EDU (Kathryn Lawder) writes:
> In article <92097.112555ICLNM@ASUACAD.BITNET> ICLNM@ASUACAD.BITNET writes:
>>in response to johnnyb@ims.com (Johnny Battle):
>>>
>>>"One-eyed, One-horned, Flying Purple People-eater"
>>>"Itsy-bitsy, Teeny weeny, Yellow, Polka-dot Bikini" 
>>>"Ahab the A-Rab," 
>>>"Does Your Chewing Gum Loose Its Flavor on the Bedpost Overnight," 
>>>"Tie Me Kangaroo Down" 
>>Does the SPEARMINT Lose its Flavor on the Bedpost Overnight 
>>Yucka-Puck, 
>>Movin' On 
>>(my favorite) I've Got Tears in my Ears, Lyin' on my Back, Cryin' on my Pillow
>>Over You.
>>"Beep, Beep" 
>>"Tan Shoes, Pink Shoe Laces"
> 
> Okay, I remember it as tears in my ears, lying on my back in my bed while
> I cry over you (at least that's the way my band director used to sing it
> in music lessons).
> 
> Here's my additions to the list:
> 
> 1) Little Boxes (on the hillside made of ticky tacky)
> 2) Maresy Dotes
> 3) No Matter How Young a Prune May Be He's Always Getting Wrinkled
> 

> -- 

  Bellybuttons are no good, I've often heard it said........
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tuesday, 7 Apr 1992 14:16:48 MST
From: <ICKAD@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Why do they call me "Daddy"?
 <1992Apr6.221317.16787@erg.sri.com>

Since we've been involved in early registration for the past two weeks, I'm
afraid I just caught on to this thread, so I don't know how young the child
is who is calling his mom "Daddy".  Since Jamie loves "Dinosaurs", he's also
into the habit of saying "Not-the-Mama"; however, it's a REALLY strange
feeling to hear this 2 yo midget call his father by his first name (as I
sometimes do; otherwise, I also call him "Dad).  He's now learning that "Mom"
and "Dad" are not our real names.  Sometimes, though, I accidentally call
him "Hershey"  (our dog's name).  If I'm really excited or upset, I may go
through the gamut of names in our household--all five cats and the dog--before

I land on the right name.  Jamie, of course, thinks this is very funny.  I
can't wait to see what happens when #2 offspring comes along! :-)
--Jamie's Mommy (Karen Davis)
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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Wednesday, 15 Apr 1992 02:13:06 MST
From: <AUCHV@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: misc.kids,alt.kids-talk,alt.parents-teens,misc.education
Subject: Re: Minors right of access to contraceptives?
 <1992Apr14.200059.27588@cs.wayne.edu> <GILHAM.92Apr14161731@march.csl.sri.com
 <1992Apr15.001140.27946@leland.Stanford.EDU>

I would like to pose a very simple and clear question to those of you arguing
*against* the distribution of condoms in public schools... would you force your
children into the same lot of the all of the hemophiliacs, patients who con-
tracted HIV through blood products, and hatians... to contract this disease
from something beyond their control.  For Christ's sake, *give them the choice
not to die*!!!  And yes, you can pound the party/church/political line of ab-
stinence, but take a moment to look at how that's worked out so far!  Why is
it such an afrront to your parenting skills to encourage your children to prac-
tice *responsibility*, *foresight*, and *intelligence*... in my estimation,
these characteristics are a *testament* to good parenting, not an affront.
Furthermore, there are ramifications beyond HIV that still haven't been re-
solved after at least thirty years in this country, because conservatives
refused to admit that social values were changing... I'm talking about preg-
nancies, various other venereal diseases, etc.  Why do you refuse to see?

It is a sad impression I get of this country and its values when issues like
this come up, and it is made clear that nobody is willing to learn.

Oh, and if you must flame... send it via email, and don't waste these people's
time.
---
Christopher Vacano         *  "The principles of lust are easy to understand:
Industrial Design          *  do what you feel... feel until the end."
Arizona State U.           *                            -- Enigma
AUCHV@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU   *_________________________________________________
ARC: F1/2PBftSotRFAaOD/MCttRFA... Rogue. BabyBro to Clare, Kristiina and Eric
From: johnnyb@ims.com (Johnny Battle)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Male/Female child care roles (was Re: At what age is day care appropriate?)
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:11:46 GMT
Organization: Integrated Measurement Systems, Inc.

Judy Leedom Tyrer writes:

|> PART of the problem is the men's attitudes.  But the other part is that we allow
|> these attitudes to prevail.  I see an awful lot of women accepting their
|> husband's, son's, and father's excuses for why child care is women's work.  
|> 
|> And I've seen some husband's do a great job of getting out of said work...

We have a friend who actually managed to puke each time he tried to change a
diaper.  Said the smell nauseated him (gee, what else is new).  He got out of
the job!  I considered sticking my finger down my own throat (after washing it
first) each time I got that pleasant task, but I knew Susan would have simply
handed me a clothes pin for my nose and said "get on with it."  Much (most?)
of the work involved in taking care of kids is messy, unpleasant, boring, 
you name it, just not much fun.  Where's the big surprise that men try to get
out of it.  Don't let us.  For our own sake, as well as our kids'.  I've
noticed an amazing thing: the more I had to do for my babies, the more I had 
to put myself out, get up in the night, wipe off the drool, the more of this
stuff I had to do - the closer I felt to them, the more I loved them, the 
more fulfilling it became to be a father.  Read this closely, now, it's not
that I came to enjoy the tasks themselves.  I hate, HATE changing diapers. 
But, funnily enough, doing these things for my babies made me like them more.
I suspect one reason so many men abandon their family these days is that
they never really participate in raising their kids.  Ironic, isn`t it, they
run from work they never did.     

What I find interesting is the number of people who rationalize not staying at
home to care for their infant because they "really wouldn't enjoy it," as if
there are lots of parents who just love to wash reeking diapers in the toilet.
They imply that some women must find it mentally stimulating to spend the day
talking with a "mewing, puking" infant who`s whole vocabulary contains three
words and those are mispronounced.  They, of course, are superior beings who
can't find "fulfillment" from such tasks; they require real, challenging work
to be happy, and, hey, surely the baby doesn't want an unhappy parent.  So it's
all in the best interest of the baby to let him spend the day with someone
who "enjoys that kind of work."    
  

Johnny Battle                        
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: ff76@vaxb.acs.unt.edu (Jhinuk Chowdhury)
Subject: FAQ: Sleep Problem (Jeannie Dopson) needed. (E-mail bounced).
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:24:02 GMT

I am posting this since my e-mail to Jeannie Dopson (dopson@ssd.dl.nec.com)
bounced.  I need the Sleep Problems FAQ file from her.  If you read this
message Jeannie, could you please send it to me.  

Thanks, in advance.   - Jhinuk.

Jhinuk Chowdhury, University of North Texas,  Internet: ff76@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
From: jgt10@uts.amdahl.com (John G. Thompson)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: 2 YO Stuttering
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:41:21 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

nto1249@dsacg3.dsac.dla.mil (Suzanne C Fairley) writes:

[...]
>My questions:  Will he grow out of it?  I do ignore it, but is there
>anything I can do to help him?

My son (now 3) did the same think.  He was talking up a storm and then
started stuttering.  I had some of the same gut feelings.  We decided to
wait and see what happen.  If I thought he was talking up a storm before
he is typhoon class now!

What you can do for him is pay attention when he speaks and don't
try to finish the sentence for him.

Good Luck! JGT
-- 

John G. Thompson        Amdahl Corporation      jgt10@uts.amdahl.com 
                        P.O. Box 3470 MS 340    {sun,uunet}!amdahl!jgt10
#include <disclamer.h>  Sunnyvale, CA 94088     1-408-737-5708

Go ahead, flame me...I've got heavy duty surge protectors.
From: vossron@Apple.COM (Ronald N. Voss)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Swearing (was Re: Cute things they say (2.25
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:13:21 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

>In article <28620147@hpsmtc1.cup.hp.com>, kperdue@hpsmtc1.cup.hp.com (Karla Perdue) writes:
>>
>> Children are great imitators.  However, they do not understand all the
>> ramifications of a situation and so only imitate PART.  It is especially
>> embarassing when they imitate your actions/speach but in a different
>> context/situation where the actions/speach are not appropriate.

I made the terrible mistake of telling the "Barbie, Ken and G.I. Joe"
joke in front of my five-year-old.  She saw how all the adults laughed
and she remembered it word for word.  I figure the best thing to do is
to ignore it when she tells it.  For a while she told it at least twice
a day, but it's died down some now.  

I sure learned *my* lesson.

Ron

-- 
Ron Voss          Apple Computer         I speak only for myself.
From: nate@ghidrah.Central.Sun.COM (Nate McConnell FE/SSE Grand Rapids)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Rain songs
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:40:56 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ghidrah.central.sun.com

Here is a rain song I haven't seen here yet...

If all of the raindrops 
were lemon drops and gumdrops
Oh what a rain it would be

I'd stand outside with my mouth open wide
I wouldn't care if I never went inside

If all of the raindrops 
were lemon drops and gumdrops
Oh what a rain it would be
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: lauraf@notavax.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom)
Subject: Re: At what age is day care appropriate?
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:49:49 GMT

Dave Menits Writes (and I killed the attribution line)
>In article <1992Apr13.205032.907176@locus.com> judy@locus.com (Judy Leedom Tyrer) writes:
>>In article <4804@umriscc.isc.umr.edu> davem@mcs213k.cs.umr.edu (Dave Mentis) writes:
>>>
>>>We CHOSE each other, to spend an entire lifetime together. Tell me why
>>>it's catagorically impossible for me to choose a baby sitter with the
>>>same care.
>>
>>Well, if you're going to spend as long getting to know a babysitter as you
>>did getting to know your wife, and if your baby sitter is willing to sign a
>>contract saying she won't quit in 6 mos. because she met this great guy or
>>found this terrific new job or is being deported, no reason at all.

Too bad there are no babysitters on the net to defend themselves from such
generalizations. We all know these things happen, but I know alot of people
who do have babysitters who are wonderful. I think Judy is doing them a 
diservice.
>
>
>As long as you've been on this newsgroup, I'd think you'd have some concept
>as to what YMMV means!
>

You would think so!

Laura Floom

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: annet@hob6.prime.com (Anne Tormo)
Subject: Re: Seeking natural fiber maternity clothes
Reply-To: annet@hob6.prime.com (Anne Tormo)
Organization: Prime Computer
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:23:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.190644.20943@colorado.edu> mwalker@taimyr (Marilyn Walker) writes:
>I am looking for a catalog that carries moderately priced, attractive, 
>maternity clothes, primarily made of natural fibers.  I became very 
>discouraged after looking through store racks of mostly polyester 
>blends with very little selection.  In a mid-size city we have only a 
>few stores that even carry maternity clothes.  Wearing polyester 
>feels like dressing in a plastic bag to me, and add that to being 
>pregnant during the summer....

I sympathesize having had the same feeling with son #1 born Sept 15, 1988 (a VERY
hot summer) and son #2 born July 29,1990.  I had difficult finding nice maternity
clothes whether in the stores (including Miami, FL where my in-laws live) or
mail-order.  I survived by taking advantage of the oversized look and 
nice soft stretchy cotton knits.  Lots of sundresses come in dropped waist and
very loose fitting styles.  Doesn't help much if you need to dress up more
formally for your job though.  But do check in the "Woman"s dept too -- I found
many of the styles comparable to maternity with better quality and lower price.
I ended up buying very few real maternity clothes.

Anne
From: nate@grmail.Sun.COM (Nate McConnell FE/SSE Grand Rapids)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Little Rabbit Foo-Foo: words wanted
Keywords: song
Date: 5 Apr 92 20:11:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: grmail.central.sun.com

Here is the version I learned...

Little Rabbit Foo-Foo
Hopping through the forest
Scooping up the field mice
Boppin' 'em on the head

And down came the good fairy and she said

Little Rabbit Foo-Foo 
I don't want to see you
Scooping up the field mice
and boppin' 'em on the head

I'll give you three more chances
and if you misbehave
I am going to turn you into a GOON

The next day...

Little Rabbit Foo-Foo 
Hopping through the forest
Scooping up the field mice
Boppin' 'em on the head

And down came the good fairy and she said

(and so on til you get to the last chance)

Little Rabbit Foo-Foo
I don't want to see you 
Scooping up the field mice
Boppin' 'em on the head

That's IT!  You have NO MORE CHANCES..

(the curse)
Fiddle-dee fi fiddle-dee fo
Rabbit Foo-Foo HO HO HO
Fiddle-dee foon  fiddle-dee doon
Rabbit Foo-Foo YOU'RE A GOON

And the moral of the story...Hare today, Goon tomorrow
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: gregory@csri.toronto.edu (Kate Gregory)
Subject: Re: Child/Infant CPR class
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:38:48 GMT

In article <1992Apr3.155611.3809@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> alden@coos.dartmouth.edu (Laurie F. Alden) writes:
>This term brings a new project, however.  I'm going to be teaching
>CPR-D; that's CPR and choking for children and infants.  My students
>will be parents and expecting parents referred to me from the Pregnancy
>Resource Center at the local Medical Center.
>
>Does anyone have thoughts about how I can teach this most effectively to
>this group?  What concerns will be at the front of their minds?  What
>examples will be effective?  How can I be most useful to them?
>
I took a similar course when Beth was about 6 months old.
I liked (and needed) the section on how to call 911 (don't laugh,
those who have never done it or learned it). I liked the child and infant
dummies for both CPR and Heimlich practising. I don't recall if we
discuseed choking prevention or drowning prevention; if we did
I guess they weren't done well.

Let me tell you what I *didn't* like -- no kids allowed. Ten or twelve
students, no kids. I've been to LLL meetings with 10 babies, no
problem. Most of the families I know, both wanted to go to the
course, but who would watch the baby since no babies were allowed?
So only one parent went. I can see asking no toddlers please, since they
can be very disruptive, but a six month old, both of whose parents are
right in the room -- that shouldn't be a problem. 12 adults and
six kids under a year also shouldn't be a problem. We had to take
turns on the dummies anyway; one person could hold the baby
during the spouse's turn on the dummy.

Kate
From: ahelmers@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Working full-time out of choice
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:48:45 EDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

In article <1992Apr13.152900.27026@nynexst.com>, clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu Ayala) writes:
>   I don't believe people reach this stage "wow, parents are people too",
>   until they become parents themselves. ;-)


Hmmm, judging from some of the net.wars around here, some of us don't reach
that point when parenthood hits either...:)

Ann Helmers
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: mhn@cs.brown.edu (Marian H. Nodine)
Subject: Re: Chickpox in Pregnancy -- Update
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:27:38 GMT

In article <1003@xlnt.COM> david@xlnt.com (David Johnson) writes:
>sdavis@nike.ColoSpgs.NCR.COM (Susan Davis) mentions:
>[chickenpox vaccination]
>
>I thought there was no effective chickenpox vaccine available.  We had a
>chickenpox scare when my wife was exposed to chickenpox in her last trimester.
>Fortunately she did not contract cp.

But there is!  I could now take my kids over to the Rhode Island
Hospital and get them vaccinated for Chicken Pox.  I haven't decided
whether or not to do it yet.  But this is not as a test -- the vaccine
is available to the public.

On another note, the flyer at my Pediatricians said that in most cases
chicken pox is a mild disease, but in 1 out of 1000 cases it can lead
to more severe complications including pneumonia and some sorts of
brain infections (I don't remember exactly what).  So I would definitely
prefer the vaccine to deliberate exposure!

-- Misty
From: seb1@leia.dr.att.com (Sharon Badian)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Excessive Morning Sickness--FAQL?
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:15:06 GMT
Reply-To: seb1@vader.att.com
Organization: Bell Labs, Denver, Co.

|> This is Anne Paulson writing from her husband's account:
|> 
|> Susan was also trying to avoid hospitalization.  Several times her
|> OB wanted to hospitalize her, but each time Susan talked her out of
|> it.  Finally she had the flu, and couldn't keep anything down for a
|> day.  Off to the hospital she went for the IV.  And she felt so much 
|> better, she wished she'd done it before.  Dehydration makes you more
|> nauseated.

I mentioned extreme morning sickness to my OB (not because I had it but
because my husband's cousin had a miserable case of it). She said that
she sees about one woman a year that has morning sickness so severe
that she has to go into the hospital for an IV. She did say that they
all feel better for a few days after the water has been forced into them.
Unfortunately, it's a transient thing and many of them are back for another
one before long.

Boy, I feel sorry for these women. I felt kind of queasy during my first
trimester, but nothing to compare with some of the stories I've heard! Going
to the hospital for an IV actually sounds like the good part!

-- 
Sharon Badian
seb1@vader.att.com or seb1@druhi.att.com
From: RABINOWITZ@bear.com (Ari Rabinowitz)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Starting Kindergarten
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:23:35 GMT
Organization: Bear Stearns & Co.
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <17707@oasys.dt.navy.mil> dsegelho@oasys.dt.navy.mil writes:

> I read in my local paper yesterday that this year my county is instituting
> MANDATORY kindergarten enrollment if a child will be five before Dec
> 31.  I think this is even stupider than a cutoff date!  Both the child
> who may not be ready and the rest of the children in the class (not
> to mention the teacher!) will suffer.  I'll bet a lot more kids will
> end up repeating kindergarten, rather than just not attending the first
> year.

I've heard that some of the public schools here in NY City have a
policy like that, and it really bothers us.  Jake is the tallest in his
nursery school class, and with a birthday of October 29, he is also the
youngest boy (there is one girl a week younger than him).  He will not
be old enough for the kindergarden in his current school, they have a
September cut-off, but he will be old enough for public schools which
have a December cut-off.  Our problem is that he is not mature enough
for kindergarden, and we don't think he will be ready by next September.

Because he is so tall his teachers now forget that he is young, and they
have talked to us about their concerns that his language is not up to
the rest of the class.  Of course we know that most of the class is
turning 5 this month and next, and he is not quite 4-1/2 yet, but that
is an easy thing for teachers to forget.  Actually, he is fairly adept
socially, but we still think we should wait until he is over 5 before he
starts kindergarden.  I hope the public schools give us the chance.

There is no way that we can afford the private schools here.  Would you
believe $10,500 for kindergarden?  We don't believe it, but that is what
it is.  I paid less than that for four years of college.

Ari
--

Ari Rabinowitz                  rabinowitz@bear.com for VMS and personal mail
WorkStation Administrator	ari@bear.com for sun/HP Un*x mail
Bear Stearns
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: CREECH@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Teresa Creech)
Subject: Twins
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:40:59 GMT

I hope that this is an appropriate place to ask this question.
 
 
Is there a news group somewhere which deals
with the subject of twins (or other multiples)?
 
I have three year old identical twin boys and
thirteen year old identical twin nieces.  I would
love to communicate with someone with twins.
 
Teresa
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From: czo84228@dcsc.dla.mil (Kevin L. Wright)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Other Goofy Songs
Keywords: humor, wacky
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:17:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Defense Construction Supply Center, Columbus

How about "The Streak" by Ray Stevens?

Or even "You Look Marvelous" by Billy Crystal (as Fernando)?

++++++++++++++++
Kevin Wright
From: ad4@prism.gatech.EDU (Angela Dubose)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: bowling while pregnant?
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:06:37 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


Rhonda, I was thirty-two with my first pregnancy with Mandy.  I bowled
Wednesday night and had her Friday.  I also was back at bowling with two
weeks.  I bowled my entire pregnancy and never had a problem with the possible
exception of worrying some folks when I would get exasperated at a pin shaking
and shaking and not falling down and would stomp my foot as if to magically
make it fall down.  I had folks tease me about delivering on the approach.
I only mentioned my age because some folks tend to think that after thirty
you have more potential problems with a pregnancy and even with me starting
then I had no problems whatsoever.  With Stephanie, my second child, I had to
stop bowling three weeks before I had her but that was no consequence of bowl-  ing.  She was an eager beaver to get out and her head engaged three weeks early
so walking across the room would simulate false labor so I gave up bowling earlyin that instance.  Again, I was back at bowling a couple of weeks later.

Actually, I think, personally of course, that it would be good for you to
continue as it is one sport you can still compete in while pregnancy without
complications.  On the bowling league I am on right now, my teammate bowled
until three days before she had her baby which is now three weeks old.  We
also have two other pregnant ladies on the league.  It's up to you and I can
understand your husband being a little paranoid especially if this is your
first, but also explain that you do need some exercise in the meantime too.

Good luck!!!  


-- 
DUBOSE,ANGELA R
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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