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Newsgroups: soc.roots
Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:50:52 EDT
Reply-To:     Sally Kenney <AMCAST06@YSUB.YSU.EDU>
From:         Sally Kenney <AMCAST06@YSUB.YSU.EDU>
Subject:      scanners

Can anyone tell me if they are currently using a scanner for the purpose
of recording old pictures in conjunction with any kind of database programs
for genealogy?  I have a genealogy software program which I purchased years
ago (Family Tree) and I really don't care much for it now.  I have been
considering PAF.  Is it easliy able to be used by adding the scanner pictures
to it?  Also, while I am at it, is there any one scanner that is better
for this purpose?  I would appreciate any help at all.  Thanks.
**********************************************************
SALLY KENNEY
ACADEMIC ADVISOR                  AMCAST06@YSUB
YOUNGSTOWN STATE UNIVERSITY
YOUNGSTOWN, OHIO U.S.A.              HIGHER EDUCATION
(216) 742-3323                       GENEALOGY

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              WA 98926 (509-963-2955)" <SYSDAVES@CWU.BITNET>
From:         "Dave Storla, Information Resources - User Services,
              Cent. Wash. Univ., Ellensb urg,
              WA 98926 (509-963-2955)" <SYSDAVES@CWU.BITNET>
Subject:      Is Family News network and "McGranes Since the Civil War" legit?

Fellow Root-L'ers:

Here a standard question with a new twist (I think).  A friend of mine
received a postcard in the mail claiming to have a book about the
"McGranes Since the Civil War"!  Yes, we've ALL seen this before but
what's a little different is that the address is from Denver, Colorado
and there is even a telephone number listed.  When the phone number is
called there is an answering machine with a recorded message AND a request
to stay on the line if you want to talk to someone!

The "ad" states, "We've finally finished our genealogy book on the family
in America.  It indexes most of the family, complete with birth and death
dates and places, as well as current resident records!  To encourage
everybody to get a copy, its on sale thru Sept. 7 for only $23 (save $7 off
the regular list price..."

The reverse side of the card states, "Part I and II of the McGranes is
finally in print.  The book goes back in history, tracing 666 earlier
American McGranes through birth and death records.  It also lists the
names and addresses of 599 living American McGranes.  The book stands
as an excellent reference source for family historians.  There ara a
total of 1265 American McGranes indexed - who have lived and loved since
the Civil War."

Finally, the book is published by an outfit called... the Family News
network.  My question to the group is has anyone else received a similar
ad from THIS PARTICULAR OUTFIT and if so what was your impression.
I'm well aware of the usual skepticism these ads bring to mind but what
I want to know is in regards to "the Family News network" and publications
such as "xxxxx Family Since the Civil War" by this outfit.

David L. Storla
E-Mail:  SYSDAVES@CWU.BITNET
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From: cjt1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Charles Ten Brink)
Subject: Re: Abbreviation USV as branch of military?
Reply-To: cjt1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:16:13 GMT

In article <ROOTS-L%92072807540982@VM1.NODAK.EDU> Thomas Kruse <KRUSE@IPFWVM.BITNET> writes:
>    This past weekend I came across a beautiful old print in an
>antique shop that pictured a soldier in a navy blue uniform and
>several members of his family perhaps having a "welcome home"
>chat it appeared.  On the high collar of his uniform were the
>letters:  USV.  Does anyone have any idea what they stand for?

I'm familiar with this in the Civil War context as meaning United States
Volunteers.  I don't know whether this designation was also used in later
wars.
--Chuck

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From: Les.Fenton@p243.f4115.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Les Fenton)
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Subject: Grblist
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:23:02

get genealog grblist


        -Les

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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 08:51:32 EDT
Reply-To:     Dan Jutson <jutson@USASOC.SOC.MIL>
From:         Dan Jutson <jutson@USASOC.SOC.MIL>
Subject:      "USV" and Illinois research
Comments: To: Roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

For Tom Kruse and anyone else interested USV does indeed stand for
United States Volunteers. The designation was used to differentiate
between the Organized Militia (U.S. National Gaurd) and the Reagular
Army. Volunteers were only used during a declared war (ie. War of
Southern Independence-Civil War to those of you up North; and Spanish
American War). The Uniform you describe would have been from the
Span-Am War as the insignia wasn't in use until that War. The USV as
a designation was dropped at the turn-of the century. The Federal
Government only recognized the National Gaurd (USNG-insignia) or
the National Army (USNA-insignia) as seperate entities during WW1.

My part-time position as Historian with the Fayetteville Independent Light
Infantry (the last true militia unit in North Carolina and oldest
in continuous service in the South) has given me an interesting
education in uniforms and insignia related to the militia.

If you have any questions feel free to contact me.

Since I'm taking up bandwidth with this message perhaps someone out
there can help me with a snag in my research. My g-g-g-g-grandfather
NATHAN JUDSON/JUTSON was listed in the 1830 Illinois Census (Fulton Co.)
and I know he moved on to Texas in 1838. Does anyone know how I can get
more information on him and his family in Illinois? I'm trying to find
out who his father/mother are and perhaps link him back to the JUDSON
family of Connecticuit. I've checked a couple of bibliographies on
Illinois gen. research but most are concerned with 1860s era research.
Could anyone recommend a proffesional genealogist who could do some
research for me or recommend some good sources for this period?

Dan

Daniel J. Jutson
Electronics Tech.-SRI International
Captain/Historian-NC State Militia- F.I.L.I.
Adjutant-Fayetteville Arsenal Camp #168-Sons of Confederate Veterans
Junior (I'm a night school student)-Fayetteville State University
Internet:jutson@usasoc.soc.mil
Snailmail:2802 Hermitage Ave., Fayetteville, NC 28304

Researching: JUDSON/JUTSON-AZ>TX>ILL>NY>CT>ENG
	     CHOAT/CHOATE-TX
	     CALLAWAY/CALAWAY-AZ>TX
	     UMBERFIELD-TX>CT
	     MITCHELL-TX
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:07:39 -0400
Reply-To:     ak385@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
From:         Bill Green <ak385@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Vital Records
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.Edu

>Does anyone know when the US (or individual states) began keeping
>vital records (births, deaths, marriages, etc)?  I have the understanding
>that these records were not compiled until somewhat recently.

Joni, the vitals files on the listserv have information from the LDS
research guides as to when various records began and where to find them.
There is also an address for things like the state's Vital Records
department and state archives that may have older records.  Send the
message (no subject needed, the subject line is ignored) "INDEX
ROOTS-L", and you will get a list of the files available on the
listserv.  Send the message to LISTSERV@VM1.NoDak.Edu, and you should
get an answer back in a few minutes.  You can also get them by ftp from
VM1.NoDak.Edu, directory ROOTS-L.  When you get the files by mail from
the Listserv, you use the name with a space in it, ie. GENEALOG
VITAL-PA.
When you obtain them by ftp, you put a period in the space, ie.
GENEALOG.VITAL-PA.


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* Bill Green, Minot, North Dakota    ak385@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu *
*                  green%milo@plains.NoDak.Edu                   *
*  Researching:  ANHORN, KOHOUTEK, KOTCHIAN, HAVLENA, MARSCHALL  *
*    WILSON, BROWN, REED, IDE, MASON, GLEASON, COOK, LAMB        *
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From: stauffer@src.honeywell.com (Don Stauffer)
Subject: Re: Scanners
To: soc.roots
Posted-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 16: 44:03 CDT
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:44:03 GMT
Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 16: 44:04 CDT

I must apologize to the group.  My mind was racing too fast on my earlier
posting on my Scanman, and multiplied by a factor of 2.  The lower priced
Scanman I bought is the Scanman 32, NOT Scanman 64!  Sorry.  Didn't notice
until I saw it posted.
Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: lianne@beach.csulb.edu (Lianne Hoskins)
Subject: I'll look it up for you
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 02:06:07 GMT


  I'll be going to use the PhoneDisc this weekend, so . . .

  If you're looking for someone who might still be living
  and he/she has a slightly unique name or you know the
  state/city, I'll be happy to look it up for you.

  You've got 24 hours to think about it, I'll check my mail
  Friday evening.

  `'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'
    Lianne Hoskins -- lianne@beach.csulb.edu

    HOSKINS(ON)  CUTSINGER  BRENT      LAMB          SNEPP
    C/KLAUSER    HOLDORF    SIEGWARDT  SCHLOTTHAUER  QUICK
    THOMAS       AMBERG     NEIBLE     OAKS          SHAAK
    DUPREE       DRAGOO     MUDD       HILLABOLD     EVANS

  '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'


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From: CREECH@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Teresa Creech)
Subject: Re: 1892 Census
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:59:51 GMT

Heidi,
I don't know about the NY 1892 census, but NY has often done
censuses in other years.  I have copies of 1835 and 1855 census
records, for example.  Could 1892 really be 1895???
Thanks,
Teresa
 
PS Where in NY are you looking?  My relatives are all in St Lawrence,
   Jefferson, and Montgomery Counties
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:43:00 -0700
Reply-To:     Lisa Oberg <lisanne@u.washington.edu>
From:         Lisa Oberg <lisanne@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Abbreviations associated with a person's death
Comments: To: David Olsen <dko@CS.WISC.EDU>
Comments: cc: Multiple recipients of list ROOTS-L
              <ROOTS-L%NDSUVM1.BITNET@uwavm.u.washington.edu>

It is my understanding that s.p. refers to the Latin for *without issue*
i.e. sine prole.  That is the only answer I am aware of anyway.

Lisa Oberg
lisanne@u.washington.edu

On Wed, 29 Jul 1992, David Olsen wrote:

> I have run across a number of different abbreviations used when talking
> about the death of a person.  I have figured out what most of them mean:
>
> d.y. = died young
> d.s. = died single
> w.d. = will dated
> w.p. = will proved
>
> But I cannot figure out what 'sp' stand for.  If someone could tell me
> it would be much appreciated.
>
> --
> David Olsen			University of Wisconsin - Madison
> dko@cs.wisc.edu			Department of Computer Sciences
From: Les.Fenton@p243.f4115.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Les Fenton)
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/files roots-L


        -Les

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Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: harry@ngc.com (Harry Saal)
Subject: mutiple marraige dates (keeping track thereof)
Summary: how best to track official/unofficial marraiges
Organization: Network General Corporation
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:32:20 GMT

Several couples in my family tree have two marriages: (1) a legal
date, sometimes a secret from the rest of the family for years
and (2) a different (later) celebrated marriage date (often this was
a religious ceremony and the former was civil). My question: given that
the software I use has only one place for the date, I figure the
celebrated date is most pratical, since that is when people celebrate
anniversaries, etc. But it bothers me, since that is NOT the "real"
date from the legal/historical point of view. What is your experience
and suggestions about this matter?

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From: lowreypl@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Phillip Lowrey)
Subject: Finding relatives
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 03:17:04 GMT

Hello,

	I have been researching a member of my family who, after moving from
my home state (Texas) to another state (California), evidently left no records
during his stay there.  This person moved from Texas to CA in 1935 and may
have changed his name since there are no Social Security records under his
name.  The last contact that any member of my family had concerning this
person was in the 1950's.  At that time he was still in CA and was reprtedly
near death.  The State of CA, however, has no death certificate for this
person.  I am lost as to ways to proceed in my search for this relative.  If
he changed his name (without going through the court system) how would I ever
locate his last place of residence.  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Phil
From: Brian.Mavrogeorge@p0.f30.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Brian Mavrogeorge)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Requests to look for matches
Date: 21 Jul 92 00:05:04 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:125/30.0 - Roots(SF!), San Francisco CA

Many people sent me messags asking for info on possible matches. 
Unfortunately I replied but didnt quite have the right syntax and they 
all got rejected. If you asked and didnt receive, ask again. I'll figure 
out this UUCP stuff yet.



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From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: 1892 Census
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:38:54 GMT
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

In article <27JUL92.08908498.0057.MUSIC@NMUMUS> "HEIDI WOLF: Public Safety Department" <ADHW@NMUMUS.BITNET> writes:
>Could someone explain why a census was conducted in 1892 instead of
>the familiar 10 year increments?
>
>I'm referring to the NY state census of 1892, I'm unsure if other
>states were done in 1892 as well.
>
>Thank you.   Heidi Wolf    ADHW@NMUMUS

If this census is available, could someone checks for some families
in Ellenburg, Clinton Co. ?  I have some Beauregard there and
1892 is just before (in 1895) they moved to New hampshire.  Of course,
I have some data about these families so that I can send a copy
before looking.  

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 /   \   Genealogiste officiel : Beauregard/Jarret/Jarest/Vincent
J   __>  Barthelemy Jarret (1471) -> Andre Jarret, sieur de Beauregard (1665)
\_.-===   -> Denis Beauregard (1992)                  Opinions ? Et pis non !
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:01:58 -0500
Reply-To:     MELODIE SANDERS <MES@VAX2.UTULSA.EDU>
From:         MELODIE SANDERS <MES@VAX2.UTULSA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: National Archives (Corrections)
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NODAK.EDU

The new address, etc. of the New York branch of the National Archives is:

201 Varick Street
Manhattan, NY
(212) 337-1300
Hours: 8 a.m. to 4:30 p.m, Monday-Friday,
       3rd Saturday of month.

For more information on this branch, see the message from Bill Ortel
posted by Dick Miller (16 Jun 1992). If you do not have a copy, I will
be happy to forward a copy which Dick has provided me.

Thanks to those who called this correction to my attention!


Melodie Sanders		Internet: MES@VAX2.UTULSA.EDU
University of Tulsa
Organization: CompSofTech, POB 33937, San Antonio, Texas 78265-3937
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 13:21:23 CDT
Reply-To:     Cliff Manis <cmanis@CSOFTEC.CSF.COM>
From:         Cliff Manis <cmanis@CSOFTEC.CSF.COM>
Subject:      SHIPS - Information
Comments: To: "Genealogy Information" <ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

Why  is it so hard to find information about the old ships, the
dates they traveled, where to ports, where from ports ? ?

For those who are interested, I will be collecting data posted
to the ROOTS-L Mailing List during the period July92 - 30 Sept 92
and posting a message sometime on October about who is searching
for information on SHIPS.

Please post messages here.

Ship names, dates (if known), ports(if known).

If interested, send a message ! ! ! !

later..cliff
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Researching: MANIS MANES WHITEHORN CANTER BIRD FRANCIS NEWMAN
USMAIL:   P. O. Box 33937, San Antonio, Texas  78265-3937
BITNET:   cmanis%csoftec.csf.com@NDSUVM1  Caretaker of GENEALOG
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    >>>    There's only one of me, I've ever meet     <<<<
Standard Disclaimer:  We are not associated with anyone. (PERIOD). (.)
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:37:46 EDT
Reply-To:     AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
From:         AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject:      Davis & Sensabaugh
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU

I got a good response on Armstrongs; now I would like to know if anyone has
any information on Davis's or Sensabaugh's.

Eddie Armstrong (aisarmstrong%ist%vmi@ist.vmi.edu)
From: John.Hogg@f4115.n124.z1.fidonet.org (John Hogg)
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Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Hawick
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 08:31:00

 From: 1:114/15

 To: asuvax.eas.asu.edu!noao.edu!uunet!cs.st-
 and.ac.uk!vsm%arizona.UUCP (MOORE Vivienne "S.")
 From:  John.Hogg@p200.f4115.n124.z1.fidonet.org
 Date: 26 July 92

Vivienne,

This will also come by mail just in case.

On receipt of the tombstone list I ordered the film of deaths in
Roxburgh for 1875 to find the parentage off Christina Scott.

There is one listing for a Christina Affleck Scott, age 59 3/4 who died
8 Jan 1875.  Husband was William Laidlaw and address given was #17 Loan
which is where I show them living since 1851.  Except for the middle
initial this matches with the tombstone data. Parents listed are George
Scott and Margaret Affleck both deceased.

Since the  census records indicate that Christina Scott was born in
Hawick I plan to have another look at the census records for her
parents.  They should be in the 1841 for sure.  With a little luck,
maybe one or both parents lived to 1855.

One major inconsistancy.  William Laidlaw was not deceased when
Christina Scott died.  He is listed on the death certificate as a
widower.  In addition I show him alive in 1864 and listed on the
marriage certificate of daughter Margaret.  Also shows in the 1861 and
1871 census. I need to look at 1881 again for a widower.

I am interested in the source of your data.  Is this a society I could
join?  How does one go about getting copies of their work?  So far, all
of my ancestors were from Hawick or surrounding towns so I am very
interested in as much historical and genealogical data as I can find
out regarding this area.

John Southard Hogg, 1200 Overhill Dr, Bedford, Tx  76022, 817/283-0776.

 * SLMR 2.1a * hAS ANYONE SEEN YOUR CAPSLOCK KEY?

 * Origin: Southern Crossroads -=[ 817-481-8984 ]=- (1:124/4115)
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From: dko@cs.wisc.edu (David Olsen)
Subject: Abbreviations associated with a person's death
Reply-To: dko@cs.wisc.edu
Organization: Dept. of Computer Sciences, University of Wisconsin
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:02:29 GMT

I have run across a number of different abbreviations used when talking
about the death of a person.  I have figured out what most of them mean:

d.y. = died young
d.s. = died single
w.d. = will dated
w.p. = will proved

But I cannot figure out what 'sp' stand for.  If someone could tell me
it would be much appreciated.

-- 
David Olsen			University of Wisconsin - Madison
dko@cs.wisc.edu			Department of Computer Sciences
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Searching for RISK
From: f_riskph@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Date: 28 Jul 92 02:37:32 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

I'm looking for RISK family information.  Earliest I have is John Risk
of Staunton, Augusta Co., Virginia but things get confusing there.  My
father was Paul H. Risk Sr., Indiana.  Also need info on link back to
RISK in Scotland (Ireland also?)  BUCHANAN may be of interest since
this is the Scots clan of the Risks.

Paul H. Risk II
4228 Ridgebrook Dr.
Nacogdoches, TX 75961

f_riskph@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
From: lincoln@rand.org (Tom Lincoln)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: ships:
Date: 26 Jul 92 21:01:04 GMT
Organization: RAND Corporation.

In article <9207261627.AA20960@tso.uc.edu> Robert Thomin <durango@TSO.UC.EDU> writes:
>hello!!
>... where to find ships

Here is a starter set of where to look...  from melvyl


18. Passenger and immigration lists bibliography, 1538-1900 : being a guide
to published lists of arrivals in the United States and Canada / edited by
P.  William Filby. 2d ed.  Detroit, Mich. :  Gale Research Co., c1988.


14. Filby, P. William, 1911-
Passenger and immigration lists index : a guide to published arrival
records of about 500,000 passengers who came to the United States and
Canada in the seventeenth, eighteenth, and nineteenth centuries / edited...
1st ed. Detroit, Mich. : Gale Research Co., c1981.

13. Germans to America : lists of passengers arriving at U.S. ports /
edited by Ira A.  Glazier and P.  William Filby.  Wilmington, Del. :
Scholarly Resources, c1988-<c1992 >.


Tom