From: iptsiant@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Panagiotis Tsiantopoulos)
Subject: Re: Greek government threatening MILS and Muslims
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 08:36:43 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Technische Fakultaet.

In article <9211081620@zuma.UUCP>, sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) writes:
|> 
|> Spelling out the demands of the Turkish ethnic community in Greece
|> he said "We want the restoration of Greek citizenship of 544 ethnic
|> Turks. 

If he himself calls them Turks, what do they want the Greek citizenship for?


|> Their citizenship was revoked by using the excuse that this
|> people have stayed out of Greece for too long. They are Greek citizens
|> and are residing in Greece, even one of them is actively serving in
|> the Greek army. Besides, other non-Turkish citizens of Greece are
|> not subject to this kind of interpretation at an extent that many of
|> Greek-Americans have Greek citizenship and they permanently live in
|> the United States."
|> 
|> "We want guarantee for Turkish minority's equal rights. We want Greek
|> government to accept the Turkish minority and grant us our civil rights.

I 'm going to ask you again (and please, Deniz, I know YOUR position, let Serdar answer):

1. What is with the Greek minority in Konstantinopel (or do you think there isn't any?)? Do they have as much rights as Turks in Greece?

2. You talk of garantiing civil rights, although in other postings you say that there is no real democracy in Greece. This doesn 't fit, does it?

3. What about the civil rights of other minorities in Turkey, for example Kurds or Armenians: are they allowed to talk their own language (or do you think they haven't got any?), to dance their own dances, to have meeting-places ?


|> Our people are waiting since 25 years to get driving licenses. 

Despite of that they surely drive their cars.

|>The Greek
|> government is not granting building permits to Turks for renovating
|> our buildings or building new ones. If your name is Turkish, you are
|> not hired to the government offices."
|> 
|> "Furthermore, we want Greek government to give us equal opportunity
|> in business. They do not grant licenses so we can participate in the
|> economic life of Greece.
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|> In my case, they denied me a medical license
|> necessary for practicing surgery in Greek hospitals despite the fact
|> that I have finished a Greek medical school and followed all the
|> necessary steps in my career."
|> 
|> "We want freedom of expression for ethnic Turks. We are not allowed
|> to call ourselves Turks. I myself have been subject of a number of
|> law suits and even have been imprisoned just because I called myself
|> a Turk."

He is a member of the Greek poarliament, so it is nothing more than illusion to allow him to call himself a Turk; he swore upon the Greek constitution, not the Turkish (or did he?)

|> 
|> "We also want Greek government to provide freedom of religion."
|> 
|> In separate interview with The Turkish Times, Dr. Sadik Ahmet stated
|> that the conditions of ethnic Turks are deplorable and in the eyes of
|> Greek laws, ethnic Greeks are more equal than ethnic Turks. As an example,
|> he said there are about 20,000 telephone subscribers in Thessaloniki
|> and only about 800 of them are Turks.

That is exactly 4% of Thessalonikis telephone subscribers!!Are there really so much of them (Turks) ? What about Greeks and their telephones in Turkey?

|> That is not because Turks do not
|> want to have telephone services at their home and businesses.
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So they participate in the economic life of Greece?!!?!?
 

|>  He said
|> that Greek government changed the election law just to keep him out
|> of the parliament as an independent representative and they stated
|> this fact openly to him. While there is no minimum qualification
|> requirement for parties in terms of receiving at least 3% of the votes,
|> they imposed this requirement for the independent parties, including
|> the Turkish candidates.
|> 
|> Ahmet was born in a small village at Komotini, Greece 1947.
|> He earned his medical degree at University of Thessaloniki in 1974.
|> he served in the Greek military as an infantryman.
|> 
|> In 1985 he got involved with community affairs for the first time
|> by collecting 15,000 signatures to protest the unjust implementation
|> of laws against ethnic Turks. In 1986, he was arrested by the police
|> for collecting signatures.
|> 
|> Serdar Argic
|> 

So you re-post this garbish? Have you run out of bloody articles from 1962- ?

I would like you to answer my questions, PLEASE!!!

Panos Tsiantopoulos.