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From: nancyl@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Nancy Lellenberg Bentrup)
Subject: name of movie needed: C. Plummer/M. Smith
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:07:15 GMT

I am remembering a movie, though not very well, that came out in the 
last 3-7 or so years, that stars Christopher Plummer and Maggie Smith.
The basic plot is that Maggie Smith wants to cast someone younger/sexier
or something in her new movie, and doesnt want Plummer to be in it.
He dresses up/changes his appearance enough to convince her that he is
somebody else and gets the part.

I'm pretty sure it's Maggie Smith; I am positive about Christopher Plummer.
I dont think it was widely released here, and I think I saw it on video.

Does this ring a bell with anyone?
Thanks.
From: jeffy@cray.com (Jeffrey Neau)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Anthony Hopkins
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:42:14 GMT
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.

In article <BxtIqu.3u2@news.cso.uiuc.edu> nancyl@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Nancy Lellenberg Bentrup) writes:
>Would love to know of other movies he has been in.  Just rented "84
>Charing Cross Road" which was nice.  And will be seeing "Dracula" at
>some point.  Have seen "Silence of the Lambs".    Any suggestions/
>reviews would be very welcomed.... thanks.
>

Elephant Man
From: mdouglas@cad067.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Maria Douglas )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Dracula mistake maybe
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:46:17 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Intel Corp.


-- 
In article <1e8robINN89l@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, firenza@wpi.WPI.EDU (Timothy Mark Collins) writes:
|> 
|>   I noticed that after Keanu Reeves character reappeared towards the end of the
|> movie, his hair kept changing color.  It went from black to gray to black to a
|> lighter gray and then almost all gray.  Was this some sort of error, or did I
|> miss something.  I was getting sort of confused.
|> 
|> firenza@wpi.wpi.edu

No, you're very observant.  See my other message with the heading
"GARY OLDMAN IS A SEXY VAMP--NOT!"  There were continuity problems in
the movie, this being the most obvious (to me).

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Intel Corporation	mdouglas@cadev6.intel.com  

No quote.  Not today.  I've said enough already.

I don't speak for Intel, either.
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Dracula
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:40:02 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH

margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman) writes:

>I have a question on vampires not having a reflection in mirrors.  Wouldn't
>their clothes, hats, etc... show?  Or is it easier in film (movies, tv)
>to just not show the entire person clothing and all?  This has always
>puzzled me.  I think the clothing would show up, only the body would lack
>a reflection.

Vampires are actually made of liquid metal.

This metal transmits a field which cuases both them and their clothes
to not reflect in mirrors.

It's this same field which lets them (as Terminators), travel through
time in seeming violation of T1 when Reece says that only organic
material can move through.

This liquid metal aspect of their nature also explains the
Vampire's morphing abilities.

None of this was explained adequately in Cappolla's Dracula.
-- 
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From: dtschett@saims.skidmore.edu (donna tschetter)
Subject: Re: Coppola's "Bram Stoker's Dracula"
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:44:20 GMT

Agreed- visually stunning and thought -provoking.

Anthony Hopkins provided much-needed campy comic releif.

Worth seeing!
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From: staffelb@acd.ucar.edu (Thomas Staffelbach 497-1499 room 382)
Subject: Wim Wenders "Until the end of the world", any good?
Organization: Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research - Atmospheric Chemistry Div
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:11:42 GMT


Does anybody out there have an opinion about this movie they would
like to share?
I'm still not decided whether to go and see it tonight.
From: mcramm@dct.ac.uk (McRamm)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Sneakers press disk (UK posting)
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:06:46 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

Hi folks,
this is my first post to rec.arts.movies so go easy on me huh?

I'm trying to find a source for the Sneakers press pack disk. Anyone know 
where/how I can obtain one? (Short of setting up my own newspaper or becoming a
professional reviewer) of course.

All suggestions welcome.


-- 
 Angus M. Marshall, MCRAMM@UK.AC.DCT,amarshal@uk.ac.dund.mcs, (+44 382) 308600
"Flightless Birds - What's the point of a flightless bird? 
Ah, so you're a  flightless  bird  then?  Have  you  met  the  incredible
drowning trout? " Steve Punt & Hugh Dennis (The Milky Milky Tour 1992) 
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From: otruba@mitre.org (Steve Otruba)
Subject: Blade Runner Directors Cut at THX Theater
Summary: Playing at Chestnut Hill
Keywords: THX NE
Organization: What me organized
Distribution: ne
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:15:59 GMT

Hi all...For those who are interested the Director's Cut of Blade
Runner is going to be playing at Chestnut Hill's THX theater.  For
those who saw it at the Nickelodeon will notice a marked inprovement
in the sound. 

SteveO

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From: bjbartlett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (I'm not really a doctor...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: First "Dracula" Goof - Minor Spoiler
Date: 16 Nov 92 08:14:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: miavx1.1992Nov16.131456.14252
Distribution: world
Organization: Frog Mt.

In article <1992Nov15.111849.323@news.uwyo.edu>, rtravsky@news.uwyo.edu (Rich Travsky) writes:
> Minor spoiler ahead...
> 
> Spotted what appears to be a slight goof: In the scene where Mina walks
> Lucy back to the house after her 'sleep-walking' excursion (and 
> subsequent molestation by the werewolf), the shadow of some set 
> equipment appears on their gowns as they pass from left to right. 
> Something squarish, with what looked like side panels.
> 
> Awaiting verification...
 
  I missed this one, but I did notice that when Lucy's fiance (I think he's the
one) was nearly bitten on the RIGHT side of his neck, he grabbed the LEFT side
instead.  All the same, it was an awesome movie!

Bart
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From: maw5s@Virginia.EDU ("Melissa Wiley")
Subject: Re: New Branagh Film?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:39:54 GMT

I believe he will be directing and acting in "All's well that
ends well."  I could be wrong, though, to verify check a
Riverside Shakespeare.  He's going to play Benedict and his
wife is going to play Beatrice whatever play those characters
figure in.  I don't know about your Jacobi question.
I'm sure he'll be in it though.  ---Melissa Wiley
From: kebarnes@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Aladdin
Date: 15 Nov 92 16:36:02 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Nov13.221409.28359@cheshire.oxy.edu>,
avison@cheshire.oxy.edu (James Bothwell Avison) writes:
> Well, not to brag or anything, I just saw Disney's "Alladin" last night here
> in Los Angeles, where it's playing at the El Capitan (across the street
> from Mann's Chinese).  It was AWSOME!  I must say, it was very funny.  It was
> about as far away from Beauty and the Beast that disney could go.  Plus, the 
> animation was excellent, and so was the soundtrack.  A definite must see!
> 					James

I saw Aladdin at last night's sneak preview, and I concur with the above
assessment, except for maybe the part about the soundtrack.

It's a good movie, say *** out of four. If you go expecting a Disney movie,
(like Beauty And The Beast) you're in for a surprise, however. ALADDIN is 
in the best Warner Bros. style and tradition(!), something that has to be
seen to be understood. The Genie is a part Robin Williams was born to play,
but plopping him down in the middle of a Disney fairytale is a dangerous
proposition, and if he weren't a cartoon he'd run away with the movie, which
he almost does anyway. The animators have captured his essence brilliantly,
as he can transform himself from one character to another, one shape to
another with dazzling speed, spinning off comedic riffs faster than anyone
else alive.
The movie has some classic Disney touches as well, the evil Grand Vizier
who looks like he could be a brother to Cruella DeVille (or perhaps the
Evil Queen in Snow White), and a Tiger reminiscent of the one in Jungle
Book (except he doesn't talk). There are even scenes reminiscent of
Fantasia. Gilbert Gottfried turns in a good supporting performance as
the villain's parrot (the only talking animal in the movie). Computer
animation is better integrated into the film here than in Beauty And
The Beast. Indeed, one of the supporting characters is almost entirely
computer-animated, since it would be incredibly tedious to do by hand.
But the overall effect is that of Warner Bros. taking over a Disney movie,
(perhaps some cross-pollination has occurred since "Roger Rabbit"!), mostly
thanks to the force of Robin Williams' personality. Well worth seeing
for the whole family.

--Ken Barnes
 
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: why the hang-up on NC17?
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 19:29:59 GMT

In article <jjonsson.250@alexandria.lib.utah.edu> jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov15.044137.5024@spectra.com> johnson@spectra.com (boyd johnson) writes:
>
>>Please don't confuse the R and NC-17 ratings.  NC-17 is simply a
>>renaming of the X rating, no-one allowed under age 17, which implies not
>>only "sexuality, naked breasts" but fully viewable sex acts
>>complete with genitilia.  Besides that it usually means there is no
>>plot to the movie.  I'm not making a statement, just clearing it up.
>
>Ok, for the record. The MPAA rating system was originally comprised of the 
>following ratings: G, GP, R, X. 

This brief history of the MPAA ratings is substantially correct, except
that the original set was G, M, R, and X.  For various reasons, M got
changed to GP, which was not quite as obvious as hoped, so it got changed
to PG.

Mr. Johnson's original statement that "NC-17 . . . implies . . . fully
viewable sex acts complete with genitilia " is simply not correct.
Anyone who cares to take four hours or so can discover the difference
between R and NC-17.  Get hold of video copies of "Basic Instinct" in
both versions and watch them.  I believe the difference is in somewhat
less than three minutes of material, and that they could easily have 
left those three minutes or so in, cut a similar three minutes from
somewhere else in the film, and gotten the R rating.  It was more a question
of how much sex there was than the level of explicitness of any particular
scene.

That's pretty typical for the difference in an R rating and NC-17 (or, for
that matter, X) rated film.  "Angel Heart" was rerated R simply by cutting
some scenes of blood flowing down the walls while Mickey Roarke humped
Lisa Bonet, for example.  Somehow, I don't think that those few seconds
that were cut resulted in an absence of plot.  

There is another spate of NC-17 controversies happening right now.  Shortly,
"Bad Lieutenant", an independently made film directed by Abel Ferraro and
starring Harvey Keitel, will be released with an NC-17 rating.  There were
rumors that "Body of Evidence" would be rated NC-17, though, in actuality,
it never received that rating from the MPAA.  (Though it is possible that
the version submitted to the MPAA was cut, specifically to avoid an NC-17.)
"The Lover" lost a few minutes and a bit of narration indicating that the
young female character in the film was 15 years old to avoid an NC-17.
There is no reason to believe that any of these films ever featured
"fully viewable sex acts complete with genitilia", and all three are
rumored to have a plot.

In point of fact, leaving aside Andrew Dice Clay's concert film, I challenge
Mr. Johnson to name a single NC-17 rated film that could reasonably
be said not to have a plot.  He'll have a hard time even finding one
that features his fully viewable sex acts.

-- 
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

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From: lon@edsi.plexus.COM (Lon Ponschock)
Subject: Joan of Arc gossip
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:18:17 GMT
Summary: Question for the Net community
Keywords: Seanead O'Connor, Joan of Arc


	Having heard that Sinead O'Connot will not play Joan of Arc in 
yet another remake, my companion and I speculated on who would 
play Joan instead.

	Assumming the cast will be along the lines of Carl Drier's 
_Passion_, why not have k.d. Laing play Joan and Lyle Lovette play 
her confessor (the Antonin Artaud part)?

	I, for one, don't think that this is very far-fetched.

	Think about it.

	Your opinions invited.  Send mail or post here.

lon  :-)
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:24:05 -0500 
From: Benjamin Rudd Schoenberg <bs26+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: OLDMAN WAS A SEXY VAMP--NOT! (SPOILER)

Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.movies: 21-Nov-92 Re: OLDMAN WAS A SEXY
VAMP-.. by D.H. Holden@seq1.keele.a 
>     Apparently, the Lucy character is played by Martin Kemp's wife.
>     i,e, the guy from the group Spandau Ballet. Who was also in the
>     film the cray twins.
>  
>           Dave.

Yes, "The Krays".  Sadie Frost (who played Lucy in "BSD") was in "The
Krays" too, contrary to an earlier post saying that "BSD" was her first
movie.  I think it was her first STARRING role, and first American film.
 I read that besides a few British films, she's done extensive tv work
there.  Also, used to be a gymnast!

-Ben
From: margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Dracula
Summary: clothes!
Date: 19 Nov 92 15:43:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.122624.25432@osf.org>, buchman@osf.org (Terri Buchman) writes:
> In article <26562@optima.cs.arizona.edu> Margaret Newman,
> margaret@cs.arizona.edu writes:
> >I have a question on vampires not having a reflection in mirrors.
> Wouldn't their clothes, hats, etc... show?  Or is it easier in film (movies,
> tv) to just not show the entire person clothing and all?  This has
> always puzzled me.  I think the clothing would show up, only the body
> would lack a reflection.
> 
> The vampire cast no reflection because it has no soul.  Some
> cultures believe that there is a spiritual link between a person and
> the image that they cast.  The Amish dislike of having their picture
> taken stems from the belief that when you take their image you take
> a little piece of them, their souls, away.  Vampires are
> anti-persons.  Their souls are sort of on hiatus while their bodies
> continue to walk the earth.  The body alone without the light of the
> soul does not reflect.  It is one of those ironies of the myth that
> the creature that is all physicality has no real substance.
> 
> TerriB.


I understand all about the vampire not having a soul, and so not having
a reflection.  What I wanted to know is: why don't their clothes show up?
Does the aura from the vampire invade the clothes, and thus stops their
having a reflection?  I think it just makes for better tension in a scene.
"Look, I'm speaking to him, I see him, but he casts no reflection in my
mirror".  Instead of "Gee, there's his clothes, where is he?"

Like I said, it must be easier to shoot a scene where the whole person
doesn't show up instead of having to do the tricky stuff where just the
clothes show up.

It's just a silly question that has roaming my brain for years.  When I
write my vampire novel I will have the clothes show up, but not the body.

margaret

"Blood is thicker than water, and tastes better, too"



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From: torsten@daimi.aau.dk (Torsten B. Hagemann)
Subject: Re: Zentropa
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 05:11:44 GMT

2609cowend@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:

>I just caught this film in Milwaukee -- does anyone have any 
>information on it, or its director Lars Von Trier?

Yeah, he is a danish director, graduated from the danish school of film art
(roughly translated) and have made (besides his final project, which I don't
recall at the moment) the movies
  The Element of Crime , I find it extremely good, a film noir in all senses,
  it is shot in this black-and-yellow light, in a future Europe, oh marvelous.
  A perfect thriller/crime/detective story. I can give you a more thorough
  abstract if yuo want (SPOILERS). He uses the aspect of flashbacks due to
  hypnosis in this one too. It was invited to the Cannes Festival, not to
  participate in the contest, and got really good reviews.

  Epidemic , a horror thing, I haven't seen it, but know the outlines.

  Zentropa (or Europe, as it was named originally, but the name was changed due
  to the release of Europe, Europe, to avoid confusion), you have seen it
  youself.

He intended those to be a trilogy of the ultimate moview in three different
genres, the thriller, the horror, and I can't remember what genre he thinks
Zentropa belongs to.

He made something for TV too, a movie called Medea, which I didn't like too
much, I would probably have loved it on a big screen in a theater.

He is quite unpopular in Denmark (generally speaking) because he appears to be
arrogant. I find it unfair, and think that it mostly is because he don't give a
damned for the press. 

If you need it I can take a look in my old movie magazines, there is a bunch of
stuff about him. Or if you have any other questions ...

Take care
  Torsten
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From: we@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Winfield Eng)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Catwoman: feminist or femme fatale?
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:53:24 GMT
Reply-To: we@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Winfield Eng)
Organization: Columbia University

>>>+>Melissa Wiley wrote:
>>>+>> Can anyone give me some info about catwoman's
>>>+>> comic book history?  Thanks!!! ---Melissa Wiley

The TPB Greatest Batman Stories Volumes I & II have a bunch of Catwoman
stories through the years.  From those stories the reader can see the
pre-Miller catwoman.

Lady Johanna Constantine mentioned about the Huntress from Earth 2
from Pre-Crisis days.  I remember reading a villianess named the Huntress
that wore a yellowish tiger-like outfit.  Is that the same character?
I believe that she was married to the villian Sportsmaster and later
became a herione.  Can someone fill me in on this?

Thanks





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From: echristo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Elena A Christofides)
Subject: Re: Help settle a stupid bet over War of the Roses.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:41:36 GMT

In article <19395@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> cccsims@it-cap-39.ucdavis.edu (Jonathan
Sims) writes:
>
>
>   Due to my V.C.R. being stolen not to long ago I can`t just rent War of the
>Roses to settle the bet myself. That said, the bet is:  I say Turner shrugged
>Douglas off at the very end of the movie but my friend thinks that Douglas
>shruged Turner off (by the end I mean when they die).  Thanks

Turner shrugs Douglas off.
I have the movie and my VCR.
Elena
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From: tjk5@po.cwru.edu (Timothy Kordas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.postmodern,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Peter Greenaway
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:38:35 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62144.student.cwru.edu
Keywords: macabre, michael nyman, dutch baroque

In article <1992Nov15.192411.6913@ohm.york.ac.uk> jkn@ohm.york.ac.uk (John Nicoll) writes:
>From: jkn@ohm.york.ac.uk (John Nicoll)
>Subject: Re: Peter Greenaway
>Keywords: macabre, michael nyman, dutch baroque
>Date: 15 Nov 92 19:24:11 GMT
>In <1992Nov14.031723.14448@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> lfiddick@nyx.cs.du.edu (larry fiddick) writes:
>
>
>>what is his latest film?
>
>As far as I know, PG's latest film (1991) was `Prospero's Books', 
>based on `The Tempest'. (Not one of his best, IMHO).
>
>BTW, Did his fairly wonderful `Dante's Inferno' ever reach the US?
>
Not to my knowledge, is that a full length feature? (I had thought that I'd
seen all of his features films-and a number of his shorts). What year was
_The Cook the trief his wife and her lover_ made? I believe that it was
'90 ?? _Drowning By Numbers_ may have been produced at about the same time??
_Drowning By Numbers_ is one of my favorites--especially all of the little
pieces that refer to his early films....



-Tim Kordas
kordas@snowhite.eeap.cwru.edu
From: bov@x.co.uk (Andy Bovingdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: New Branagh Film?
Date: 16 Nov 92 09:55:37 GMT
Organization: IXI Ltd.


# I have heard that Kenneth Branagh (director of 1988s Henry V and Dead Again)
# is working on a new film that is based on another Shakespearean play.

Yep, and I also heard that Mr Coppola, after Dracula, has been asked to do
Frankenstien, he refused to direct but is to produce. He has passed the
direction to Mr Branagh, who will also star. Whats the betting his wife is
in it somewhere. I also hear that Warner are trying to get Tim Burton to
do Frankenstien too, good style choice, but a bit obvious after Edward mutant
hands. They are also trying to get Arnie Swarzenheffer (SP?) to be in it too.
Good job the monster doesn't say a lot.
I don't know how much of this will happen, you never know the truth in what
you read these days, but this is what Empire, and the UK Teletext have been 
saying.

Bov!
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