From: v140pxgt@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Daniel B Case)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Pan Am 103-Four years after
Date: 22 Dec 92 05:41:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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In article <BzMt8F.3zt@demon.co.uk>, gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal) writes...
>Don't be so quick to dismiss this one.  British investigative magazine
>Private Eye has uncovered lots of circumstantial evidence that all points
>in the direction of the hypothesis outlined above.  And some good concrete
>evidence to do with a suitcase belonging to the CIA passenger that was
>explicitly searched for first before the investigation took off properly.

I read about that, too. But one of the other people from Syracuse was carrying
drugs too (what a horrible way for your parents to find out you were in the
process of committing a felony!). maybe people were carrying drugs just for
personal reasons.

>There's *something* fishy in this story and it will come out eventually.

Oh yeah, I know there is. The point I was making was that Pan Am's lousy 
security is more at fault than anyone else for letting this happen. The CIA made
an assumption, and as the movie Bad News Bears In Breaking training teaches us,
when you assume, you make an "ass" out of "u" and "me".

Pan Am, as the victims have properly put it, is on a "fishing expedition" for 
excuses. None of this would have happened if they had done their job even 
adequately. It may be true, but...

> 
>We may all be too old to give a damn of course, when it does.

..I'm too old to really care much right now. Nothing will ever bring that 
pre-crash way of life and the people who epitomized it back. You must understand
my interest in conspiracy theories wanes a bit here, because of my personal 
involvement in this one. That Wednesday four years ago was shattering to all of
us at Syracuse. It took the edge off Christmas-i didn't feel good celebrating it
when people whom I didn't know but felt kinship with were being picked out of
Scottish rubble. I'd rather let it lie than pursue the finer points of the blame
It doesn't interest me so much who really did it when it didn't have to happen
in the first place. Thinking about it (and I must admit I do still read 
anything about it I come across) just sometimes (like today, for obvious reasons
tends to bring the feelings of that back to life, and that's not fun.

I'm not trying to dissuade you, just explaining why this isn't much of an issue
for me.


> 
>G
>PS Private Eye's analysis is that the reason for the bomb was primarily
>to scupper the peace process that was going on at the time and looking
>like making headway; that the 'diplomatic bag' of the CIA was a regular
>conduit for drugs for CIA dirty money to fund arms deals, and the people
>the CIA dealt with double-crossed them by supplying a bomb in the drug
>shipment.

Gary Indiana in the Village Voice suggested the same thing, but hinted that it
might have been the Mossad scuttling the peace process. I don't know, nor do I
care much.
There is also a similar theory going on about the Arrow Airlines jet carrying 
the US Army men returning for Christmas from the Middle East some years back
that crashed in Gander, NF (Canada). This one links up to the Iran-Contra deal.
Although the Canadian inquiry ruled that it was caused by the bad weather (and 
the aged condition of the plane), one member held out, and his dissent gained
more currency in light of PA 103. There are some strange things about that 
flight. For one thing, when the plane left Egypt, two large cases were put on at
the last minute, and some soldiers had to give up their personal bags to make
weight for it. This is never done in the US Army. Also, some of the wreckage of
the plane suggests an internal explosion, not a crash, and there are 
eyewitnesses on the ground who say the plane was burning as it came down-which
conflicts with the board's "explosion on crash" theory. Has Private Eye written
about this? it would be worth looking into.

						Dan Case
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