From: baustin@billapc.UUCP (Bill Austin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Y&R: Various Comments
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 05:15:13 EDT
Organization: Ground Zero Group, Columbus, OH 43227

sandra@felix.filenet.com (Sandra Cole) writes:

> I may get flamed for this but I'm going to say it anyway.  Jill is a
> bimbo.  Just when it looks like her relationship with John is back on
> the right track, she willingly jeopardizes said relationship by having
> a one night stand with TOF(The Old Fart - namely Victor).  We know

Just another case of acting on an impulse without thinking.
Or, does love/desire money and power as and end.  Be it Victor or John
the means to that end.  They could of had some leftover thoughts from
Dru's "act without thinking" and applied them to Victor.  (Personally,
I can't see what He would want her for.  Not because she is available,
and as you said.. thats not the way he likes women.. but more because
she is too devious.. A trait he doesn't mind in himself, but in a love
interest?)

> When I saw the show where Nina tells Victoria off and threatens to
> spill the beans to  TOF about the marriage, I thought this is great,..

It was the most interesting moment for Nina since telling off David K's
mistress off.  What was her name again?

> Nina is finally developing a spine and isn't going to be a doormat
> anymore.  Oh, but I rejoiced too soon.  She wusses out on telling Vic

Yeah, for someone that has put five holes in someone.  You would think
that she would develop a little more spine.  Rather, for a while there
I thought they were going to bring back Leeann's "I hate men" movement.
She wasn't interested in anything except her son (and perhaps a bit
about her mother..etcc)

> hurl).  Nina is holding onto the hope that Ryan's marraige won't work
> and then she'll be around to pick up the pieces.  Has this girl no
> pride or dignity?  If I found out that a man lied to me and used me

Evidently not.  No matter how hard he was working to 'deserve' his
promotion, she should have figured things out alot sooner that it was
more than a job coming between them.  People in love usually spend time
together.. no matter what.

> Why is Lynn always sticking her nose in Paul's business(personal that is:-)?

Well, would you rather have her character as just a 'prop' in the
office?  I mean, maybe say hello from time to time, and pour coffee?
She has little enough 'plot-time' as it is.  Personally, Lauren and
Paul don't belong together and it would be nice to see Lynn and Paul
get together.  Though that will eventually blow up.. Unless she has a
wild side (like Lauren) that doesn't show.. we would likely see Paul
cheating on her, or just calling it quits before too long.
Regardless, I don't know why they are just flirting with the idea of
Paul and Lynn.. other than as filler between Paul/Lauren or Paul/Cassi
(past), or Paul/????? <Future> shots.

> It's always "what's going on boss", "what did Lauren want boss", "Are you
> and Lauren serious boss", and so and so....  Why doesn't Lynn just turn
> the page on that "Paul and Lynn - The Greatst Romance Ever Told" book
> and Get A Life.  The writer's are always putting Paul and Lynn together

Well, Paul hasn't exactly sat her down and told her the facts of life.
"I'm not interested, I'm not going to be interested..etc"  (for
starters.. she would quit, and she would make a lousy bag person on
Y&R)
Till she gets completely crushed, she is going to keep her nose in his
personal life as much as she can.  She likes him for petes sake.  What
she needs to do is A) get over it because it hasn't happened in so
long, or B) force the issue and be willing to deal with the positive or
negative results.  I don't think either is likely to happen anytime
soon.  Her character just isn't developed enough for it.  We NEVER see
her doing anything outside of the office, the only time we have seen
her socially with anyone other than Paul (charity date) was at the
Charity ball, and no-one seems to be competing for her attentions.. A
romance just doesn't seem to happen unless someone has be left behind
in favor of someone new.  (i.e. with Phillip.. Nina in favor of
Cricket, with Rex.. Kay in favor of Jill (and/or 'Miss Love'), with
Cricket.. Danny over Scott (though that had other reasons too), etc..)
Not very often does a romance actually happen on Y&R (or soaps in
general?) that 'just happens'.  its almost always the one rung to the
next rung ladder formula.
The minute we see Lynn with a personal life, then Paul and Lynn are a
sure thing.
Personally, I like Lynn's character.  Sweet, not too many negative
traits, moderately pretty(seems to fluctuate.. perhaps its *MY*
moods..but sometimes she looks very good, and other times she looks
very plain), and dependable.  She likely would not cheat on him, and
would likely (for that very reason) be paired up with someone that they
wanted to put 'out of order' for the rest of the women on Y&R..
(again.. thats not likely Paul.. too young..etc)

> Ok, sorry that I was so long-winded. I'll get off my soapbox now :-)

Btw, Hello Sandra.  Hopefully, you will forgive my verbose nature.
Are you also a B&B viewer?  I started watching full time when Sheila
made the jump.

Bill Austin