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From: carterk@cgsvax.claremont.edu
Subject: Tank Girl Movie (also was Re: Krypton's moons?)
Organization: The Claremont Graduate School
Distribution: usa
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:31:07 PST

In article <BtKA4K.1r1@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, tankgirl@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Tank Girl) writes:
> In <1992Aug25.035957.6415@math.ucla.edu> sherman@glendon.math.ucla.edu (The Ahkond of Swat) writes:
> 
>>In article <1992Aug25.032902.11654@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> berninge@iron.ecn.purdue.edu (James A Berninger) writes:
>>>
>>>Does anyone remember the names of Krypton's two moons?
> 
>>Slim and Wandsworth.  No, wait, that's something else...
> 
> and we'll be DAMNED if we tell you WHAT that something else is.

Whatever it is, it's gotta be better than Mithen and Wegthor (which always
sounded to me like a bad fantasy novel series... "Wegthor! Quick! Cast a
bowling ball of burning badness!")

> 
> -tank girl
> "though email guesses will be accepted"

Speaking of this, does anyone have more news about the Tank Girl movie? At last
report, they were still looking for a script, and I'm wondering whether it's
still worth working up a pitch.

> 
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> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "I remember the news on NBC that fateful night, hearing how college freshmen
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> delicate ego structures crushed by the brutal act of the USENET psychopath and 
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From: acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Comics as Literature
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:02:33 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

While taking a long flight from California to Maryland yesterday, 
I started thinking about this question: Which comics are likely
to be read as literature in the future?

There are some obvious ones: Sandman is probably the most likely,
and, almost as likely, the Watchmen. Maybe a few of the top quality
Claremont - Byrne X-Men. The Dark Knight is a possibility. So, what's
the net.opinion?

Oh, and no one need point out to me that several top American and
British Universities are offering year-long seminars on Suicide
Squid, with sections devoted to Doctor Calamari as an Oedipal
figure and Suicide Squid as a symbol of Man's Quest for Self-Understanding.
-- 
The world is not analog. The world is digital,
with an incredible number of bits.
Arthur C. Adams (not the comic-book artist)                        <fnord>
E-Mail acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil
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From: danl@next04pg2.wam.umd.edu (Daniel Patrick Langsdale)
Subject: Re: Sandman 41: Annotation suggestion
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:57:22 GMT

In article <lsmith.715223031@mega> lsmith@mega.cs.umn.edu (Lance  
"Squiddie" Smith) writes:
> In <1992Aug31.004225.8800@uwm.edu> grendel@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (The Big  
Squeegee) writes:
> 
> [Details of mind clouding deleted.]
> 
> >You fool.  It's the old Jedi mind trick.  If it's gotta be a tribute to 
> >anyone, I'd say George Lucas.
> 
> It probably goes back further. However, the Star Wars example was the  
first
I seem to recall that George Lucas had gotten his inspiration for the Jedi  
from Dune, this specific ability recalling the Voice.

	-Dan'L
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From: megazone@wpi.WPI.EDU (MegaZone23)
Subject: Re: Quotes from reviews
Organization: WPI USAF -- United Society of Animation Fans
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:34:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.044858.19038@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Vampire Hunter C) writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.002828.8390@sunb10.cs.uiuc.edu>, wesselak@suna0.cs.uiuc.edu (Erik Wesselak) writes:
>> Didn't Rolling Stone do a piece on Sandman a while back?  (Or is RS not
>> "respectable")
>No, it isn't.
>Aside:  am I the only one who gets pi**ed off at the fact that every time
>a magazine decided to print an article on comics, it has to have a title
>like "BANG! POW!  COMICS AREN'T FOR KIDS ANYMORE!" or some such crap?
>[Please, no mentions about Ellison's PLAYBOY article.  That's the exception
>that proves the rule.]

OK, I won't.... I'll mention the 'Not Funny HaHa Funnybook Reviews' in 
bOING bOING... Of course, not everyone reads bb, which is too bad. it's a
great neuro-zine....

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From: jrd@lynx.frame.com (James Drew)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: GOLDEN AGE HEROES by IMAGE -Geez!
Date: 31 Aug 1992 18:02:17 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Roland Man (bjm1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Bobbie J. Mann)) writes:

>You shouldn't blame Malibu for the problems of Image.  Malibu has nothing to
>do (editorially) with the Image books.

Unfortunately, neither does anyone else!

------------------------------
                             |     I was the only one to hear Art and Val.
Jim Drew                     |     "You've been getting tested regularly?"
jrd@frame.com                | asked Art.
(Furry: Randy Puritan)       |     "I promised you, didn't I?" said Val. 
"Innocent, but not naive."   |     "And...?"
B2h t w- c k s g+(p) rv p    |     "Don't *worry,* Art.  I'm negative."
S8/5 g l+ y+ o+ a+ u++- j++  |     "Are you sure?"
{opinions: mine != frame's}  |     "Positive."
                             |		- Marc Lynx, "For Art's Sake"
From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: New from Simulacrum Press (tm) of Jim Cowling
Date: 26 Aug 92 04:52:42 GMT
Organization: Victoria University of Technology

I think Jim forgot about the new project from Pleb Leechfoul

Annihalators #1 (Collector's item) HOT!!!!!, 
- Limit per customer (5000)
- Order 2500 or more and recieve 5% discount
- 25 different `adamantium' impregnated covers
- 25 different trading cards printed on cardboard made using
  1000 year old Amazon rainforest trees
- Comes in transparent indestructable display case
- Special limited edition (limited to 950,000,000) with the
  imprint of the artist's forehead
- Get all 1300 combinations
- Only $2.95 for standard edition and $3.95 for limited.

In this team are:-

Ribcrusher - He is so damn strong his legs are thicker than
his torso and his arms have so many different muscles that
most men don't have.

Fable - Wise and mysterious vigelante. He is so old and wise
that there are 16,000,000 lines on his face AND he has not
one but TWO arms made of banded metal.

Mammary - Appears sweet and innocent with those large green
eyes and large shiney breasts but has the power to control
minds. Enjoys to come out of pools with nothing on and 
push her chest out.

Phazer - He is so agile and wirey that his chest is made up
of 28 abdominal muscles. A real ladies man with lots of witty
and natural dialogue. He has the power to absorb any type of
power and redirect it.

Backbone - A natural leader blessed with good looks. While
being light on power he is heavy on grit and determination.
Admired by the rest of the team, especially Mammary. He has
a jawline so square you would not believe. Has no power except
he can lift four cars and jump 3000 feet. He got his powers
when walking past a building site and a steel girder fell on
his head. This also explains why he has no neck.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)
Subject: Re: INFO: ATLAS Comics of the 1970's History
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:16:10 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1SEP199207495762@mary.fordham.edu> areid@mary.fordham.edu (Darin Reid) writes:

+>     A little while ago I wrote comparing Atlas Comics (1970's) and Image
+>Comics.  After that some people wrote wanting to know the story of Atlas.
+>Well, after weeks of searching I found an article I read years ago, called
+>"Atlas Reconsidered".  It gives the History of Atlas Comics, the importance
+>their line, who was behind it, and even a rundown of what each series was 
+>about.  At the end of the Article a checklist is also included (which after
+>checking I found I have the entire run of every book!).  

	There was a piece in the comics Journal about Atlas which dealt 
fairly honestly with how and why it was started/run and why it collapsed.
I dont remember the issue in question, but I think it was in the range
107-117.

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From: bjm1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Bobbie J. Mann)
Subject: Re: Funny Books (was: Ambush Bug/TICK/Etc.)
Keywords: Interesting, more info
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 08:17:54 GMT

On the subject of Funny,
   
THE SCARY BOOK #1, published by Caliber Press is out...

and...it's funny.

Check it out.

Roland

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From: mxr@neptune.world (Max Rible)
Subject: Re: Miracleman #23
Organization: Digital Sound Corporation
	<Btpt9H.ACH@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
	<1992Aug30.185949.18101@sunb10.cs.uiuc.edu>
	<1992Aug31.151606.11028@news.nd.edu>
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 02:06:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.151606.11028@news.nd.edu> mkelly@lazy.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly) writes:

>  MM's logo was missing! We know that the Miraclebeings' uniforms change
>acording to their persona, but what can this mean?

Given that he had it on the cover, I suspect that the artist wasn't up
to making a tiny little MM on Miracleman's chest.  Note that we never
get a closeup that permits us to look at it, and artists will
sometimes elide things that won't show up well.
--
/-------------v-----------------------v---------------------------------------\
| Max Rible   | mxr@dsc.com           | "Powerful big rats, gentlemen."       |
|             | rible@vorpal.ucsb.edu |                         - Neil Gaiman |
\-------------^-----------------------^---------------------------------------/
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From: morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (Super-Turtle Jimmy Elmo)
Subject: Re: What do these people do ..... ?
Organization: The Daily Planet
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 00:09:28 GMT
X-Posted-From: fnalo.fnal.gov
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Aug25.221101.23661@pbhyc.PacBell.COM>, djdaneh@pbhyc.PacBell.COM (Dan'l DanehyOakes) writes:
> In article <9223905.4775@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> dyko@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Darren Yiu Ming KO) writes:
> 
>>	1) Writer
> 
> Important here is 0), Editor, who is often involved at this stage.  

	Insert LSH, New Titans, and/or Image joke here.
-- 
"After him!  After him!"                                                       
Ralph was going crazy.  "After who?" he cried, heedless of grammar.            
--Donald E. Westlake                                                           
  
elmo (morrow@physics.rice.edu,morrow@fnal.fnal.gov)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.xbooks
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: XMen and Batman cartoon info
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:42:07 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

proct_hately@hg.uleth.ca (Kintair of Hawkehaven MKA Bill Hately) writes:

>In article <lis.714934310@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>, lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu 
>(Elisabeth Riba) writes:
>>The following information comes from CBG #981, dated September 4th, 1992.
>> [batman deleted ]
>>X-Men
>>Weekly animated series on Fox starting September 12th
>>Production budget is $400,000 for each of the 13 half-hour episodes ordered 
>>thus far.

[Stuff about the shows deleted]

>Sorry for the wasted band width
>In otherwords they are trashing the Marvel Mutant Universe even worse then
>Marvel is.  I'm not sure if I'm glad or sad we don't get FOX here in 'bridge
>could be interesting to see what they do

    I just don't understand what you are talking about here. Why does
something that happen in a cartoon have any relevance on the Marvel
Univers that exists in the comic books? The two are totally separate.
The cartoon is based on characters from the comic books, and I'm sure
will have no bearing on the stories/continuity.Universe that the comic
books are concerned with.

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info
		   "A clear case of curare poisoning
	       of one of her Majesty's Cold-Cream Guards"
						   -- Durlock Holmes
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 12:03:34 EDT
From: mark rieker <MJR127@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: XMen and Batman cartoon info
 <1992Aug28.174207.28490@dar <1992Aug29.025623.345@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>

       Ah-ha! All you guys are smarter than you give yourself credit for!
       Thier will be an X-men book about the cartoon, actually the cartoon
       straight into the book.  The book will NOT be a part of the Marvel
       Universe, but their will be obvious paralells.  Oh Boy, more great
       stuff from marvel!



       -Mark Rieker   mjr127@psuvm.psu.edu
From: daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:30:14 GMT
Subject: Re: Of Pearls and Swine
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc

In rec.arts.comics.misc, dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:

>      I guess the point I should make before anyone preemptorily pens me an 
>inflammatory email missive is that it's not a crime to like stuff produced for 
>the lowest common denominator (heck, I buy all the x-books myself and usually 
>get some entertainment out of them), nor is it necessary to become a higher 
>denominator than you are, but you should realize that you are suited to a 
>particular level of art.

Of course it isn't a crime, but it is amusing when person X says,
"Oh, this book is so stupid.  But this book is great", when, in
fact, the two books have much more in common than they do different.

>Nothing looks more ridiculous than a boor pretending 
>to be sophisticated, unless perhaps it is a sophisticate arguing that point 
>with the boor.  Sophistication is not necessary or even preferable...but 
>dignity is both.  Taking airs is not the act of a proud person.

Depends on your definition of pride, now doesn't it.  One working
definition might be:  Pride:  someone who takes on airs.

doug
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From: jcomeau@unixg.ubc.ca (Joe Comeau)
Subject: Re: Speculation and the market (was: Valiant sucks)
Organization: UBC Pulmonary Research Lab., St. Paul's Hospital, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:25:08 GMT

> because Diamond often fails to ship books to stores that ordered 
>less than 5 copies at a time.

This is not true.  Diamond (I know) and I assume all other dist.  will
ship out 1 of any given title
From: berninge@iron.ecn.purdue.edu (James A Berninger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Comics as Wall Art (was Re: San Diego Con Horror Story)
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:19:12 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Aug27.214627.17993@midway.uchicago.edu> esti@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>More seriously, I've been known to hang up on the wall various *nice*
>cover art issues (all bagged-- can't figure out any other way to hang
>it-- with one of them an early Question issue signed in silver ink by
>Denys Cowan, so it looks like real art :).  So, a couple of
>questions...
>
>1. Does anyone else use comics as wall art?  Which issues?
I went through my collection and pulled out some comics that had
pretty good poses on the cover but were pretty worthless (eg.,
Action 643, Starman 1, Flash 11 to name a few).  Then I got out my
trusty Exacto (tm) knife and cut out the main characters and pasted
them together to make a fairly neat (albeit small) poster.  I used a
glue-stick for mounting to a sheet of posterboard, and one of those
rather cheap plastic poster frames from Target.  The end result
doesn't look anything like the "History of the DC Universe" poster,
but the amount of time and effort I put into it make it look halfway
decent to me.  (And it had better, when you consider the detail in
one of George Perez' Wonder Woman covers...)

>2. Does this damage the comics at all seriously (curling, fading...)?
They haven't faded or curled in about a year, but they're not in a
strongly-lit place.

>3. I've never bought an original art page to hang; has anyone out
>there done so?  What did you get?  How's it look?
I didn't buy it to hang (actually, I didn't buy it -- it was a gift
from my "ex", since I financed his trip to Europe), but I have the
splash page from Green Lantern 172 (Dave Gibbons) on my living room
wall.  This, I had professionally done.  The frame is black metallic
with UV-protective glass.  The art is surrounded by a black matte,
cut to leave a thin white border around the art and indicia.  Since
the art is strictly black and white, the black frame and matte look
pretty good (green may have been more appropriate, but it just
didn't look right at the store).

Jim Berninger                   ______ "This is no 'Whoops!'  This is
B0 w- c- g k s- e r- p          \    /  an 'Aaaaaaaauuuuuggggghhhh!'"
berninge@cn.ecn.purdue.edu       \  /   - Harvey ("Arnold") Fierstein
Green Lantern Fan, Extraordinaire \/      "Torch Song Trilogy"
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Funny Books (was: Ambush Bug/TICK/Etc.)
Keywords: Interesting, more info
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:27:23 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) writes:

>> How about Milk & Cheese ("Dairy Products Gone Bad!") by Evan Dorkin? 
>
> WIth their third collection, I think that series has completely run out
> of steam.  I liked the first issue; the second I tolerated; I downright
> disliked the latest.  But then, Dorkin just isn't my cup of swill. 

They're hard to take over the course of an entire book, but I still think
they're pretty funny in one-page doses.  Evan's planning to collect a lot
of his non-M+C one-pagers and filler material into a single book; if the
panels he dug up for _Pirate Corp$_ #4 and _Mad Planet_ are any indication
it should be great stuff.  

By the way, PC$ #3 is, in my opinion, the single best comic book published
in at least the past five years.  So now you know where I'm coming from.

> I've almost always like 20 NUDE DANCERS 20.  And (as many others have
> stated), one has a tough time beating THE TICK. 

_The Tick_ is one of those books that I must just completely miss the
point of.  I've got the Omnibus, and yes it's cute in a couple of places,
but I'm nowhere near as impressed as many others on the net seem to be.  

On the other hand, I'm with you all the way on _20 Nude Dancers 20._

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

"what kind of dream was this, so easy to destroy?"
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From: mbvg9741@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Hmmm. . .)
Subject: Follwing more than one Company [was "Re: Marvel Bashing}
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 17:52:53 GMT
Keywords: Marvel, DC 

louzon@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (Louzon ronald g) writes:
>The scariest thing happended to me at a convention two weeks ago.  I
>was sharing a table with some friends and had a box of misc stuff.
>Most of it was DC and other sophisticated material.  A kid came by and
>I said that I had a set of THE RAY below cover price and he said "I
>only collect Marvel."  I was shocked.  I turned to my friend with mouth
>agape and said that I couldn't believe it.  He used to manage a store
>and said that he's seen it before.  What a pity.

Actually, I've heard that sentiment quite a bit.  People will say
they can only follow one universe, and these aren't 13 year old
kids either.  I don't know.  I collect primarily DC now, though I
still get some Marvels and don't have too much trouble following
what's going on (except when they have multiple series crossovers
which I tend to ignore anyway).  
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: mlj44080@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael Lee Jacobs)
Subject: Re: Team Titans mysterious leader (*SPOILERS*)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:29:37 GMT

I dont think its Danny Chase...simply because he is already Phantasm, and was
involved in the Wildebeest fiasco before the timelines split (note the split
occurred when Waverider looked into NightWing's future after he was captured.
But before War of The Gods....my guess is that the whole Chaos baby Chaos thing
is muddled because of what Donna went through in WofG which was after the 
time split.  also Mr Grummet was prolly making fun of all the people who guessed
that Danny was Phantasm :)

-- 
  "If the best things in life are free, then my current price is
   $37k with a 10% downpayment."
From: v070km6q@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (John B Schutkeker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Valiant sucks
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:35:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug26.211646.2140@unixg.ubc.ca>, jcomeau@unixg.ubc.ca (Joe Comeau) writes...

>The only people it seems to bother are those that wish to go out and purchase
>2, 3 or 4 copies of #1s.  I don't feel sorry for these people at all.

I knew you would say this, eventually.  Philosophically arrogant people (like
you) irk me.  They don't care if people get tricked and hurt.  They only care
if they're right, and they laugh when people who disagree with them suffer.
Anybody who laughs at the suffering of another has mental health problems.

>READ the story, forget about trying to make a fast buck.  

Has it occurred to you that there is a strong correllation between the creative
quality of a comic and it's price and demand as a back issue?  It is possible
to both speculate and enjoy reading comics at the same time.  I read everything
I buy multiple times.  I have just never liked having to buy something first
before I know it's good.  I find that the market has very good judgement, and
when the market decides something is good, I hardly ever disagree.

Has it also occurred to you that when speculators get hurt by these gimmicks,
dealers are also getting hurt?  Speculators are really just entry-level dealers.
I do shows, etc.  And when dealers are getting hurt by being stuck with stuff
for which there will never be a demand, the industry is being hurt, too.
This is because the money wasted on such gimmicks disappears from circulation,
but investments that pay off multiply the cash of a speculator/dealer, which
they use to buy more comics. So the gimmicks hurt everybody in the industry and
the industry itself.
From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty III)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Miracleman #23
Date: 31 Aug 92 02:33:58 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <1992Aug30.185949.18101@sunb10.cs.uiuc.edu>, wesselak@suna0.cs.uiuc.edu (Erik Wesselak) writes:
> wogg0743@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William Shakespeare) writes:
> >ps.  Oh, yeah, YM should want to right wrongs, not write them.  Bah.
> 
> I found this to be a very interesting (possible) typo.

Typo?  I thought it was his accent.

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