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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 08:24:34 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Gender
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>      And so I guess I'm trying to say that "the man bought itself
> a car" is not *grammatically* wrong.  It is the lexical meaning
> of man that requires "himself", not its grammatical meaning, i.e.
> grammatical gender, number, case.

If somebody used "hit" (neuter) instead of "heo" (feminine) to stand for
"wund" (wound -- feminine) in OE, would you consider it an error in gender?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:23:31 CDT
From:         Not In Sky <beagle@ON.THE.BED>
Subject:      Re: rapture schedule
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What IN.THE.SKY nodes?
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:47:39 +0200
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Thank Goodness for Torkel
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              14 Aug 92 01:22:05 -0400. <9208140552.AA08967@sics.se>

  Tony asks:

  >Is Gevalia coffee considered "upscale" in Sweden ?  Here it shows
  >up most often at theatre intermissions and so on, at a high price.

  No, it's standard coffee here, one of the biggest brands. I guess
it's expensive in North America chiefly because it is a small-scale
import.

  >Very good though - why should Swedes
  >be good at packaging coffee ?  I assume it's not grown there.

  Not as far as I know! It's just processed and packaged. Sweden's per
capita coffee consumption is very near the top of the list.
From: WILLIAMS%MC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS)
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Subject: Hot town, summer in the city
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:38:00 GMT
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For all of you who
1.  Wonder what it's REALLY like to spend a summer in the Sonoran Desert, or
B.  Want to get back for any <horse laughs> I may have uttered last winter;
The temperature today, for a cross-town trek to Phoenix Pubic Liberry, was
a comfortable 112 degrees.  The geneii of the media just yesterday found out
that this temperature was registered IN THE SHADE!  Where have they been?
Their collective shock to discover that a thermometer placed in the sun would
register 140+ was a wonder to behold...  Perhaps now they can figure out why
you don't leave children, pets, or pressurized containers in cars.   <sigh>
So, here's a cheap vacation tip:  Turn on your oven.  Set it on its' lowest
setting.  Move in for half the year.  "Welcome to Arizona!"

John "Hot, cranky, and steamed" W.
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 09:53:17 MED
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
Subject:      Re: Republican convention
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: >Can anyone remember a campaign where the wife of a candidate was campaigned
: >against as strongly as Hillary is?
: Gentleone,
:    Taking into account the lack of effective mass media, it seemed to me
: that Eleanor was campaigned against at least as much as Franklin.  She was
: certainly the most outspoken candidate's wife the country had ever seen,

Who was it many years ago whose wife was attacked as being a 'Thespian'?...

G
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 18:18:16 GMT
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
 <DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Numerous Old Machines

Seem like I am in good company...have been working on 72 Celica (which
actually looks like new and runs very well) in preparation of that
dreaded day when I let Dawn have it.  It also has an almost dead battery,
and needs to have a new battery tray, but despite 200,000 plus miles,
still runs extremely well.  ggs has me beat..I only have six vehicles
out here in the Pasco Jungles (all licensed and run well) but also
have 4 riding lawn mowers and (brag, brag) plenty of space to park them
all.  Have been doing a few things to motorhome (always post vacation
things to do) as we made reservations at a campground in the Keys for
labor day weekend.  Warning ..keys are expensive!!...but they are
beautiful... Joyce hasn't been there in 30 years, and Dawn never..so
they should enjoy it.  I have been many times ...first trip in first
motorhome was there.  Sure glad they have replaced 7-mile bridge--
don't really like clicking mirrors with semi's :-)

ggs...thanks for your thoughts on remembrances ...as you know I have
      a number of dates to remember ..first wife died in July, second
      August...hope I'm not around for a third such date to remember.....

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:53:43 CDT
From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Rolled trousers and peaches
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>>I feel old, I feel old, and my pants is rolled..
>
>Oh, go ahead.  Eat a peach.  But don't wear white flannel
>trousers and walk upon the beach.

...and you, dear Ausbrook, may thank the whole list for leaving that one for
you.

-abh
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 10:01:00 PST
From:         Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS%CWU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: whoops.

>> Bah foah nowa (how was that, Natalie? Ah think Ah'm gittin this heaya Rebel
>> accent down)
>
>Not quite perfect yet.  Get rid of that final a.
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Hah!  That was my token gesture to Southern preach-speak.

Chris
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1992 12:03:05 GMT
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
 <DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Break Time

Don here, on a little break.  Cathy and I have rollover buzzing!  Went down
to first floor breezeway canteen and got a small surprise...they removed
the cigarette machine - don't smoke so no problem here - and the replaced
the can coke machine with a much fancier can machine.  Takes $1 bills now,
but biggest surprise ...price went from .60 cents to fifty cents!

Kind of exciting this time of year ...seeing those young people coming for
the first time to a University ...even though they are not aware of what
we are doing, and we never have contact with students, still kind of nice
to realize without the work my team is doing some of those students could
not afford a higher education.  So while I often regret not being able to
help mold the character and mind of these young people (think I would have
liked to be a teacher) I can take peace in the knowledge that at least in
some small way we have helped them.

Still waiting for the time this year (usually happens each year) when some
sweet young thing, standing by the "Student Services" sign on our building,
asks me "Sir, can you please tell me where the Student Service building is?"
"Why certainly, just go thru that doorway...."  Great time of year .....
seriously.  Well, got to get back to making sure the Financial Aid office
doesn't have too many unhappy customers  :-)

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 16:05:57 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Old machines

>been a)charging the battery to my tc/sw's 74 Cadillac Eldorado
>to move it to the front driveway, and b)chargin the battery to my
>'74 VW bus to move it to the alley behind the house, after using
>it to push the '74 Porsche 914 up a little in the front driveway,

Hey Giggles,
This is frighteningly close to parallel life time--my '79
Fleetwood was stolen in Providence last summer.  (The real loss
was the Martin D-45 in the trunk.  I am still in mourning.)  I
still chug around in my '77 VW bus--it's more holes than metal,
but the most reliable buggy I shall ever hope to own.  And I do
indeed have a '73 914--that is going in next week to have the
control arm mount under the battery welded back into usefulness.
I guess your machines are, on average, older than mine.

Is your 914 a 4 or a 6?  Clean or dirty?  Aren't they wonderful?

-Mka
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Re: Weird 
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 20:00:04 GMT
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gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal) writes:
> Someone over here wants their US office connected to email.  Does
> your friend offer uucp feeds locally in Chicago

He didn't the last time I checked.

> or know someone who does?

Undoubtedly.  I'll try to remember to ask him.

--karsten

I guess you learned to tolerate the smugness...
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:12:00 MST
From:         "Lisa J. Gilmore" <TSLGILMORE@CC.WEBER.EDU>
Subject:      Re: "feminist"men
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>      I find that my own personal view of the world is very similar
>to "feminist" ideas, but I find myself wishing that there were
>another word for it. I don't mind having values that others label
>as "feminine" but I don't like to be called anti-male. So, I tend
>to settle for describing myself as "pro-feminist" and doing a lot
>of explaining.
                                                   Br Paul
I like "humanism".         LJG
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From: jwagner@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Judith O Wagner)
Subject: Re: Taking Names and Kicking Butts
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:03:46 GMT


>> Bartender, a round of whatever to each person in the room.  Drinks on me.
>
It's awfully nice to have you back Don--I missed you.

2Judith who is on her second diet coke of the morning and always
        ready for a refill



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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 10:28:07 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Silence is revealing

>Huh?  You guys are getting reruns of 'Porridge' or what?
>
>g

Pardon my ignorance, but what's "Porridge?"

-Mka
Someone's been eating from my bowl.
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1992 12:40:09 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Good evening to you all
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              15 Aug 1992 06:52:20 CDT from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

On Sat, 15 Aug 1992 06:52:20 CDT Natalie Maynor said:
>> evening."  Mothers learns that when they tells their kids it is time to
>> come inside for the evening and they say "but Mom, it's not dark yet!"
>
>Even in a northern latitude on a summer night?

Sure....kids know to milk that for all they can get....and in summer mom
is much less likely to care ....   and its harder to get them in to bed
if it isn't dark anyway...

dan
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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
Subject: Re: Nethead's age by carbon dating
Reply-To: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 19:35:49 GMT


In a previous article, AUSBROOK%IUBACS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Entropy Warrior) says:

>>Yep - and too much dating, temporal and otherwise.:-)  I was brought up
>>on manual typewriters myself, and used one all through college.  Now, how
>>old am I?<evil grin>
>Just about exactly my age, Nethead.
>
And what is your age?  If they had to use carbon dating on your birth 
certificate to find out if it was accurate, then you're a bit off, oh Entropic
one.:-)

-- 
It's Ruth the NetHead, back from the [virtual] dead
	- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
fighting for truth, justice and static-free lines
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:13:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: WHY WAS GIGGLES IN THE BUSHES?? (was Re: Clambake
              Pictures)
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> : 2)  This is not surprising, everyone was staying as far away from me
> : as possible don't think I didn't notice...
>
> Brad wasn't!  He was being real buddy-buddy with you most of the
> time as I remember.
>
> G

Yeah, Brad and I were <just like this> the whole afternoon.  Right,
Brad baby?
--ggs (suddenly remembering the words to Love Lifted Me...)
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 07:08:09 -0500
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Important anniversary
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On Wed, 12 Aug 1992, BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU wrote:
> Today is the 44th birthday of Brother Paul of Syracuse.  Pass it on!
>
Have a very happy birthday, Brother Paul!
ndh
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Re: Internet Outage
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 03:16:09 GMT
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Steph writes:
> I asked my source of wisdom on things electronic why it was that we
> turn off the computer but don't unplug it.  Source said that the power
> comes in on the positive line, and goes out on the neutral (negative?)
> to complete the circuit.  When you've got things switched off, it's
> just like one of those knife switches being opened.  Open circuit,
> nothing flows.
> 
> So what we're all talking about is if a surge comes down the line and
> jumps the gap?  Or is the knife switch not really the case?

Sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't, but even if it is it isn't
good enough.  Clear?  I thought so!

If you are using a polarized plug and you haven't used one of those
wide-prong or 3-prong defeating plug adapters then your power switch
probably works like a knife switch and disconnects the "live" wire
(it isn't a positive line since your wall outlet is AC).  Lightning is
powerful and sneaky, though, and since it managed to arc across the sky
it might manage to arc across this switch and fry things electronic.

Even if this weren't the case some appliances would still be vulnerable.
Have you ever wondered how you can press the "On" or "Power" buttons
on your remote control and your TV turns on?  Your TV is still connected
to the live wire!  Much of the circuitry isn't being powered but the
part that watches for the remote control is continually on.  At the very
least _this_ circuitry can be zapped by lightning.

> -- who got a D in almost every electrical engineering class she ever
> took (maybe 6 or 7) because one of the things she couldn't handle was
> the math, and got a math degree instead

I got my degrees in CS.  Somebody forgot to tell me to concentrate
on my subject area so I ended up taking many grad-level EE (and
philosophy) classes along the way.

The classes aren't particularly important in any case.  I remain
convinced that engineering ability is as innate as artistic ability.
Most of the people making a living in both fields have mistaken
the application of previously determined methods as the talent
itself, and most of the people paying for their work don't recognize
the difference.  Credentialism just reinforces this nonsense.

--karsten

(When, exactly, did I climb onto this soapbox?  I'm scared of heights...)
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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
Subject: Re: Geekefaction
Reply-To: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 19:04:53 GMT


In a previous article, ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU (Dan Lester) says:

>On Fri, 21 Aug 1992 00:33:52 GMT Ruth M. Hanschka said:
>>Ever try the diet version?  It's not nearly as sweet, and the caffeine is
>>still there.<grin>
>Hmmmm....dietjolt...quite a concept....
	Diet Dew, Dan - I wasn't referring to the Jolt.:-)  Who'd want to
drink Jolt without the sugar? [it's bad enough as it is....]

>somehow it reminds me of shopping in a little takeaway section of a student
Been talking with Graham too much, have we?  "Takeaway"?  Or is that just
bookworm vocabulary rearing its overeducated head?:-)
>union that shall go unnamed.  couldn't find any cans of dietcoke.  guy
>told me "here it is" while handing me a caffeinefreecoke.  I said, no, thats
>caffeinefree, not sugar free.  He replied "i know....thats the same thing".
	ACCCH!  Where do they find these ignoramuses?  The art department?

>I didn't bother trying to explain the differences to him...of course he offered
>exactly the WRONG/opposite combo, but did HE know it?   Guess ignorance
>must indeed be bliss....
Either that, or the kid was there on a football scholarship [and studying
drama] and really did not know the difference?  Besides, who'd drink caffeine-
free cola?:-)

>
-- 
It's Ruth the NetHead, back from the [virtual] dead
	- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
fighting for truth, justice and static-free lines
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:33:03 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Why I Couldn't Find the RAM!
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              92 1:20 pm

> > This leads to the classic joke about how to tell if somebody is
> > a computer geek - ask them to count to ten with their fingers and
> > see if they need more than one hand.
> > --karsten
>
> Hey - great joke!  Almost as funny as when I heard it yesterday
> on rec.humour.funny...

	Now, don't complain Graham.  I found myself in the company of
Mr. Rec.humor.funny himself (Brad) for much of ONE BBSCon.  The Funny
Guy is really into this stuff, and I was treated to many of the jokes
I've read over the fours I've been subbed to rhf.

Czarina
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 22:37:31 -0700
From:         MGARBER@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU
Subject:      Re: Tushar's whereabouts
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I know its rude to ask and contrary to your rules for new subscribers who are
 supposed to study all the back messages before entering the fray. But who, for
 God's sake is Tushar.
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:13:26 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: gender
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> blame it on the Greeks. At least in the West. Unfortunately,
                                                                        t.
That's what *I* said.:)Bantuists use Noun Class 1, Noun Class 2,
etc. Makes more sense to me.

> there are no Sanskritists at hand to ask about developments in the Eas
> T. Samant might know something about this. Bill

I was forced to take Sanskrit, but we used Whitney's grammar,
and the only terms I remember are English.  I was so freaked out
by the number stuff (Sankskrit has a dual)after dealing w/
Chinese and Japanese that I am repressing all of that year.

Karen
who thinksthe Greeks get *far* too much credit.
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From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gender
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>	I wouldn't know, and I'm a bit taken aback by the hostility of the
>question.  Do you prefer strong independent men like Andrew Dice Clay?

Likewise, sisterwoman.
BTW, Non-Sequiter Alert!

>-maya (whose idea of a positive male role model includes Nick Charles,

Who's this? The CNN sportscaster?

-abh
Personally I prefer Sally Jessie Raphael
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:45:11 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: animals

>And I just *love* it when the subject of geek/nerd comes up (and it
>comes up periodically) and everyone claims to be one.  Buncha wannabees.
>
>rashmi

Watch out, Rashmi--Wannabees sting.

-Mka
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:43:25 EDT
Reply-To:     Graham Toal <gtoal@ed.ac.uk>
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Soapbox/Bullshit
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On Wed, 12 Aug 1992 07:37:22 CDT, "List Goddess" <maynor@ra.msstate.edu> wrote:
> > Sure, it was most enjoyable.  Was the time you spent editing a hackers
> > magazine done as a way of infiltrating hackers in order to study them
> > for your computer crime work, by the way, or did that come after?
>
> Hackers don't necessarily commit crimes.  Crackers do.
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
>      language purist, prescriptive lexicographer -- but only once in
>      a while ;-)

I adjust my language according to with whom I am speaking.  I would have
said 'crackers' to one of us, but I didn't want to confuse Jim.

G
From: rashmi@CBIS.ECE.DREXEL.EDU (Rashmi Murthy)
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Date: 20 Aug 92 02:08:49 GMT
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              Perro" at Aug 19, 92 8:44 pm

>
> Why is everybody being so quiet tonight??

a.  They're busy listening to the Republicans expound on Family Values
b.  The Net (or parts of it) is still majorly messed up.
c.  I dunno

rashmi

PS Hi, Bernard
From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
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maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU ("Natalie Maynor") writes:
> I've reached the conclusion that my fingers are happier typing a whole
> command than ! plus one letter.  With commands I'm used to (like ls,
> mail, finger, mail -f mbox), my fingers zoom.  Having to scruch my left
> hand around to hit shift and a far left key is harder.

You can still try the ^p (that's control-p) to go back through your
previous commands (^p retypes your last command, a second ^p your
second command back, etc.).  Depending on your keyboard layout your
fingers might be happy with that.

These types of shortcuts are most convenient when commands are long
or if you misspell/mistype frequently.

--karsten

So much for those function keys...
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