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From: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Subject: WCW: Jim Ross Show
Reply-To: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 11:38:26 GMT


Some details from last night's Jim Ross show (AM750 9:00 p.m. EDT).

Terry Taylor hurt his knee during the week and needed surgery.  Ross &
Zenk (who was the guest) didn't think he'd be out long.

They will be taping the next two WCW Saturday Night shows this Tuesday.

The show to air April 25th will feature Bill Froelich as the guest and
Windham/Austin for the TV title, best 2/3 falls.

The show to air May 2nd will feature Jason Hervey as the guest and Big
Josh/Arn Anderson, best 2/3 falls.  Yes, Ross identified Hervey as
Missy's boyfriend.

Ross stated that Jake was no longer wrestling for the WWF, but stated
that there was "nothing official" about him coming to WCW.

Tom Zenk was the guest.  The most interesting segment was when Ross
asked Zenk his opinion about using steroids.  At first, Zenk only made
general comments about the evils of steroids.  Ross then asked him about
his PERSONAL experience with steroids.  Zenk then admitted to using
them, although he said it was under doctor's supervision.  He said that
he 'had learned a valuable lesson'.

I was impressed with Ross, because I think he wanted a statement from
Zenk about steroids, but Tom was trying to soft-soap the subject and
Ross wouldn't let him.

That's about it...

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          JOEL TSCHERNE - Internet: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.edu 
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From: sw36+@andrew.cmu.edu (Scott Michael White)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Quiz #4 AWA
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:09:00 GMT
Organization: Freshman, Chemical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

1.   Who  did Curt Hennig beat for the AWA HC?
2.    Who did Stan Hansen beat for the AWA HC?
3.    What was the Berserker(WWF) name in the AWA?
4.     Who did Jimmy Snuka fued with in the AWA?
5.     Who did the Midnight Rockers beat for the AWA TTC
6.      Who held the AWA title when the league folded?
7.     Who was Curt Hennig's manager in the AWA?
From: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Elizabeth
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:43:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: acad3.17APR92094338
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In article <1992Apr17.014644.22406@nic.umass.edu>, s4666843@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Liam Kelly) writes...
>Ahem.  To end all this conversation of "when did they REALLY get
>married", I have (hopefully) a convincing enough answer, from one of
>those Day-By-Day sports calendars...
> 
>November 1981:  Randy Poffo and Elizabeth Butette are married.
> 
>Okay, so I don't have the EXACT date.  I assure you, however, it was
>November of '81.

Actually, no.  It was November 30, 1984.  And Elizabeth's maiden name is
Hewlett.

Note to John Temmerman:  Don't quote article numbers on here.  Article
numbers are different at virtually every site (for instance, this group
has seen a total of probably 17,500 articles since it's inception - at
this site, there's been about 11,600), and therefore, no one knows which
article you're talking about because the article number on your end is
not the article number on their end.

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From: ottoh3@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Otto Heuer #3)
Subject: WWF heel champs
To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Posted-Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 11: 39:27 cst
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 17:39:27 GMT
Received-Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 12: 38:12 CDT


Of course Vince doesn't have long-reigning heel champs for the
world title.  That's where he makes most of his merchandising
revenue.  

		--Otto "Cactus Hack" Heuer
From: v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Random syndie musings
Date: 17 Apr 92 05:36:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

>Armstrong was a heel for awhile. I'm assuming this is Brad Armstrong
>we're talking about (doesn't matter, Steve was in the Pistols). He wasn't
>a heel under his own name, but he was the character under the Badstreet
>mask (with Freebirds). 
> 
>                              Jason Steeves


    OK, Brad WAS a heel as Badstreet, but I wasn't really counting that because
he never spoke, never diplayed any type of personality, and basically just
wrestled and nothing else.  Whether Brad could go over AS HIMSELF being a heel,
God only knows.  I never would have thought Mark Calloway would go over, but
give him a good speaker as a manager, a decent gimmick, and VOILA!  You have
created a good heel.  (Why Calloway works as a face in his UT routine is
anybody's guess).
                                             -Efl
From: WELACK@MIAMIU.BITNET
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: WCW Saturday nightI'm posting this on Monday, at 12:30 EDST, and our stupid system is
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:31:58 GMT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

so slow or backed up that we don't have any posts from Saturday yet, so if
these things are repetitive, sorry.........
 
1. I hate the new WCW Saturday Night. I missed it last week, but the
idea doesn't work for me. It's too blatent a ripoff of the WWF Prime
Time idea and, IMHO, for WCW to be more effective, they need to do more
ring side interviews and less studio stuff, not more. Oh well......
 
2. The answer that Cactus Jack gave to the call in question was priceless!
He was asked who knocked his teeth out, and (paraphrasing) he replied that
the first one was knocked out by Sting, and for symmetry he knocked the
other one out himself. Then he said something like "Thanks for asking."
I fell out of the chair.
 
3. I thought that Kip Frey saying that when he negotiates Nikita's contracts
with an anonymous voice over the phone, it just about shouted that there is
a heel turn in Nikita's near future. Who do you think it is?
 
 
Bill Lack
Another little Cacti!!
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From: reh@odin.icd.ab.com (Scrap Iron Hodge (Steve DiSalvo?))
Subject: Snake in WCW?
Organization: Throw everything in a manila folder and forget it
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 10:48:01 GMT

  With the rumors of Jake jumping to his Pa's turf, I have a question:
did Smith the Younger use the "Jake the Snake" name prior to coming to
the WWF, or will he be adopting a new persona if he jumps?
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From: bi011@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill King)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Savage's quick title reign
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:21:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr6.132152.18690
Reply-To: bi011@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill King)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


I don't know if this is a sign of things to come, but my roommate
watched the news last night, and they stated that Ric Flair wound
up winning. Maybe they simply got the names confused, or maybe they
are spreading the news one week early? :)
Bill
-- 
Where's my pardner? where's my pardner? THERE's my pardner! == Cactus Jack
From: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Who were the Ding Dongs
Date: 13 Apr 92 01:26:51 GMT
Reply-To: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu
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In article <1992Apr12.052551.3322@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, mnka_cif@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Matthew Kaufman) writes...
>The Ding Dongs were a face jobber team in the NWA around 1987(I think).
[...]
>To the best of my knowlege they won 1 match back when WCW ran the studio
>tapings, with Tony S. and David Crocket.

At least in this part, you are thinking of the Mulkeys.  You have the
rest of it right, though.

The Ding Dongs were jobbers named Sartain and Evans.  I can't remember
their first names offhand.  They debuted on the Clash of the Champions 
VII in June of 1989 and were history in under 3 months.

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From: Fuzzy@colonel.Corp.Sun.COM (Michael Shames/Contractor)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 8: What the hell?!
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:25:36 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: damserver-bb.corp.sun.com

In article <1992Apr6.131731.5693@bsu-ucs.uucp> 00njhavert@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
>
>	What the hell? That was the phrase that kept popping into my
>mind at WM8 yesterday afternoon.
>	3. Undertaker beats Jake: This was the second "What the hell?!",
>because we were surprised it was the second match. The tombstone pile-
>driver on the concrete was amazing.

	the piledriver onto concrete was amazing because IT NEVER HAPPENED.
	on the tape you can clearly see the UT piledriving Jake's head into
	his KNEES -- jakes head was never less then 6''  from the floor.

>	6. Savage beats Flair for the HW title: The fifth "What the hell?!"
>was another "already?" angle. We figured the two main events would run
>back-to-back. Flair bleeds again (is it me or does he always bleed from
>the same place?). Liz comes to the ring and slaps Flair around, which was
>funny to watch. During all the fireworks and smoke, my friend said "Wouldn't
>it be neat if Papa Shango appeared from the smoke and beat the hell out
>of Savage?" Little did we know...
	He does bleed from about the same spot.
	in this case he bladed himself after being big-elbowed into the
	audience barriers. he flair flopped to the floor, clasped his hands to
	his forehead and came up bleeding. actually rather well done,
	boy can that boy juice. at the post match interview, he looked
	downright crazed. however he had only a 1 1/2 inch cut in a place
	(over the right eye) where the tape shows he was never hit.

	Gee, ain't slow motion replay wonderful

		mike shames
From: andra@cs.widener.edu (Robert Andracsek)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 8: What the hell?!
Date: 7 Apr 1992 10:17:53 -0400
Organization: Widener University CS Department, Chester PA
NNTP-Posting-Host: maggie.cs.widener.edu

>{Lotsa stuff deleted]

Davey Boy with the I-C belt?  What the hell?!?

Seriously, with all the steriod controversy flying around, I would
have given Vinnie credit for keeping one of his biggest 'roiders out
of the public eye as much as possible.  Giving him the I-C belt would
do nothing towards that.

R. Andracsek
From: bi011@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill King)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WM8: Savage - Flair a shoot?
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:17:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr16.001748.2192
Reply-To: bi011@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill King)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, mnka_cif@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Matthew Kaufman) says:

>In <1992Apr14.235233.8371@nic.umass.edu> s4666843@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Liam Kelly) writes:
>
[Flair pinfall legalities?]
>
>
>Are you kidding?
>
>Victory over Steamboat okay, I'll give you that.  Garvin in the cage fine.
>But most.  Sting's leg was draped over the bottom rope.  He put Runnels
>out with the figure four while hanging on the ropes.  The other two I'm not sure about, but let's face it Flair
>is the dirtiest player in the game and we love him for it.
First, Steamboat beat Flair illegally. Flair's legs were in the ropes when
Steamboat hoisted Flair in that surfoboard type manuever. Second, Tully
Blanchard attacked Dsuty with a chair to severely hurt Dusty's leg so
that he lose to Flair a few days later. Also, I don't know how Flair won
the belt back from Von Erich and Race, but I think those were legal falls
as well. Does anyone have any info on those? I mean, a love Flair, but
the title changes were usually DIRECTLY legal, with breaking of the
rules prior to the pin....
>			Matt Kaufman
Bill
-- 
You should, have made it a point, to get BOTH of them Daddy! If Sting has
to carry me, on his back down that aisle, if he has to DRAG me in a wagon,
I'm breathing, ya understand? YOU SHOULD HAVE GOT IT DONE! It's violence for
the sake of violence & now I will turn it around to MY violence! ==Dusty Rhodes
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From: byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben)
Subject: Re: Steroids
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 01:10:16 GMT

Hal writes:

> I don't know how you all feel, but I think that every professional athlete
> should be able to use steroids.  Whether it's wrestling or football or         
> baseball, I think that it should not matter if they use 'roids.  One reason
> is that these people are getting paid millions and billions of dollars just to
> entertain the public. 
>
>	(deleted)
>
> However, I only feel this way for professional sports.  I don't think that 
> amateur, colllege, Olympic athletes should use steroids. One main reason is
> that these guys aren't paid professionals and that they probably have their
> education and their jobs to worry about.
> 

well, i still think that it's bad.  simply because they're illegal and they're
deadly and addictive.  there is medical proof that steroids are addictive
(I read this, though, that there was medical proof in Muscle & Fitness,
Flex, and in the Seattle Times probably a year ago)

so by encouraging athletes to bulk up, in ANY SPORT (and wrestling, since
it's not a "sport") i think is wrong.  You could probably make a lot of
comparisions to similar situations.  Like a person is only fun when he/she
is drunk, but he/she (do i have to use he/she?  too complicated and hard to
read dammit!) is boring when sober.  so peopel continue to urge him to drink
and drink so he can be entertaining..

or instead of alcohol, cocaine or LSD or soemthing.

yes, i am reaching, but that's basically my point.  I don't htink people
should be encouraged to do things that are harmful to them just for the sake
of entertainment.  If this has to happen, then we are a sad country that
cannot find better, safer ways to entertain ourselves.

just my $2.00 x 10^-2


-Ben

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From: mcn@apollo.hp.com (Michael McNulty)
Subject: Re: A Bunch O' Stuff
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Apollo Division - Chelmsford, MA
Distribution: world 
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:06:09 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.031321.14855@acsu.buffalo.edu> v070qg5d@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel) writes:
>    Top off-beat highlights of WM8: Skinner scrocking tobacco juice in Owen 
>Hart's mouth and face (Yuck!) and Mr. Perfect lifting Savage's leg to kick him
>in the nuts after the match--that was classic stuff.  

My top off-beat moment was recognizing a face in the crowd.  At the end of
last year's Warrior/Savage "retirement" match, when Randy and Liz reunited,
the camera showed a freckled, redheaded woman in the audience two or three
times who was joyously weeping because of Liz and Randy being back
together.

This year, the same woman was holding a sign that the camera fixed on for
about 5 seconds that had a picture of Liz that said something like "The
Lovely Elizabeth First Lady Of Professional Wrestling".  I just showed the
tape of last year's Liz/Randy reuniting to a friend who had missed it, so I
know that it was the same woman who was crying about Liz last year.  In
fact, she may have even been wearing the very same dress!

So, either this woman was a plant or she is legitimately nuts.  Or both! 

Another favorite off-beat moment was Animal talking about the Roadies
proving themsleves in front of "these 25 th . . . 75 thousand people".

I also liked the fact that there was a 4 Horsemen sign, but I couldn't make
all the words out.  Does anyone know what it said?

Mike
From: miller@ncrcam.CambridgeOH.NCR.COM (miller)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: IRC question
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:20:44 GMT
Reply-To: miller@ncrcam.CambridgeOH.NCR.COM ()
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCR Corporation, E&M Cambridge, Ohio

OK, its time to show my ignorance. What, exactly, is IRC ??

Post or e-mail your answer. Flame if you must.

Thanks !!

-john
From: IK20001@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Society for Creative Solipsism)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Hey there Tonto, who is that masked man?
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:28:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: MAINE.92099.102827IK20001
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 <1992Apr6.195007.9717@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
 <1992Apr7.070052.19579@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
Organization: University of Maine System


The Green Goblin says:
>In a previous article, fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan)
>says:
>
>>In article <1992Apr6.195007.9717@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, behm@ucsu.Colorado.EDU
>>(BEHM CHRISTOPHER JOSEPH) writes...
>>>
>>>      I agree.  After watching "A Tribute to Pukamania" and seeing
>>>      the save by UW yesterday, I have no doubt whatsoever that
>>>      it was the same UW, Steve DiSalvo.
>>>                              John Mastrangelo
>>
>>Oh my!  Do we really need to start this thing up again?
>>
>>Isn't it getting to be time to have a new running gag in this group?
>>
>
>Perhaps we should take a cue from these latest UW guesses and start using
>Kerry Von Erich or Del Wilkes.

Nah, that can't be.  Everybody knows Del Wilkes replaced Kerry Von
Erich after his horrible accident a few years back.  Then, when Von
Erich recovered, Fritz Von Erich paid Del Wilkes off to retire, and
Von Erich replaced *Wilkes* at subsequent house shows.

James Hellwig *did* replace Paul McCartney in the Popular `Beatles'
Singing group after his car accident, though.  In fact, Hellwig's
*real* reason for being suspended was because Vince refused to let
him use `My Brave Face' as his ring entrance music.
--
Eric Alfred Burns, Lord Sabre            "Faith is a fine invention
Society for Creative Solipsism            When Gentlemen can *see* --
"It's all in your mind"                   But *Microscopes* are prudent
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From: evan@karl.fsg.COM (Evan L. Marcus [Fusion Systems Group, Ltd.])
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: WWF Complete Talent Roster
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:42:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: fsg.9204091542.AA18651
Reply-To: evan@fsg.COM

>Limbo: 
>       Col. Mustapha-- absent for several months but rumoured to be on WWF's
>                       European tour.  Is this true?
>       Gen. Adnan-- if Mustapha is a no-show, what becomes of Adnan?

Ah, but Col Mustard...er...Mustafa jobbed for Tatanka at the last Madison 
Square Garden Show.

-- 
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From: mnka_cif@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Matthew Kaufman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Give JYD his credit
Date: 12 Apr 92 05:17:21 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <2201.29E7AB58@kennel.FIDONET.ORG> Mike.Steiner@p1.f207.n143.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mike Steiner) writes:


>The Real Rambo writes about "Re: Give JYD his credit" to All  [11 Apr 92 10:24]

>TRR> I wouldn't go THIS far. But I would recommend that we give up 
>TRR> the JFD moniker. JYD deserves that much for at least putting 
>TRR> in the effort.

>Sounds reasonable to me.  From now on, let's call him the HFD (health food dog).




Sounds great!  From now on Let's Grab Them "Rice" Cakes

Matt
--
			Matt Kaufman
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From: ventura@camelot.bradley.edu (Brian Wawczak)
Subject: WrestleMania I Program-Hal Work?
Summary: just to Hal
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: na
Date: 15 Apr 92 03:38:36 GMT

This is going out to Hal Work-

Hal, can you please get back to me about the WrestleMania I program you have.

Thanks a lot!

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From: jewell@Data-IO.COM (Cal Jewell)
Subject: Re: WrestleMania8 Report
Followup-To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
X-Badge-Number: 1263
Reply-To: jewell@Data-IO.com
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:29:45 GMT

In article <nittmo.702658229@camelot> nittmo@camelot.bradley.edu (Christopher Taylor) writes:

[most of match report deleted]
#Match 10--Hulk Hogan vs. Sid Justice

[ ... ]
#  The guy [Hogan] doesn't
#do anything, yet he's got 40,000 screaming fans in the seats.

Ah, you've finally discovered the mystery of Hulkamania. Perhaps
Hulkamania would be more aptly titled "How to Succeed in Wrestling 
without realy trying."

[ ... ]
#  In a way it was fun to experience the
#atmosphere of the whole thing [WrestleMania and Hulkamania], but I 
#just can't believe that Hogan ever made it so big with that *very*
#low amount of wrestling ability.

Neither can most people.

-- 
Cal...                 "Reports of my demise are greatly exaggerated."
                            -- Mark Twain
 jewell@Data-IO.COM                &
 ...!uunet!pilchuck!jewell     James Hellwig (or is it Del Wilkes? :-)