HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jon@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Jon Alexander)
Subject: 8-track tape player wanted
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Services
Distribution: tor
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:51:16 GMT

Hi, I'm looking for a table-top 8-track tape
player, so I can listen to all my favourite tapes again.
                            
Please call me
day: 978-6230
eve: 971-5022

or send me e-mail
jon@utcs.utoronto.ca

Thanks,
Big J
Newsgroups: tor.general
From: jason@hal.isc.toronto.ibm.com
Subject: WANTED: 286 PC or Compatible...
Summary: Looking for a CHEAP PC or compatible ($400-600CA)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:23:49 GMT
Organization: IBM Canada RS/6000 Support Center
Keywords: PC 286
Followup-To: Jason Uberig

Good Day!

  I'm in the market for a used, cheap, 286 PC Compatible computer.  My
cousin is off to colledge and I promised I'd track down a system for
him.  All he would need it for is running (most likely) Word Perfect 
and likely a few games.  Nothing major.  The following would be an
ideal system:

	286 10-20Mhz CPU.
	20-60Meg Hard drive.
	640 K base memory
	3.5" floppy drive 
	mono/colour monitor&card, etc.

  Time is of the essence, please send me e-mail at:
	jason@isc.toronto.ibm.com or jay@melmak.engga.uwo.ca

  OR if you're in the area:
	(416)-946-3090  (Toronto/Scarborough/Markham area - Ontario, Canada)

Thanks, for any responses,
Jason.
-- 

+---------------+------------------------------------------------------+
| Jason Uberig  | E-mail: jason@isc.toronto.ibm.com                    |
+---------------+------------------------------------------------------+
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From: geoff@zswamp.UUCP (Geoffrey Welsh)
Newsgroups: tor.general,ont.uucp
Subject: Re: Favourite UUCP Bulletin Boards for DOS?
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 13:21:46 EDT
Organization: Izot's Swamp

meikle@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Barry Meikle) writes:

> Is Waffle the best method of incorporating news & mail feeds into a
> DOS-based BBS?  Any glowing reports or bitter denunciations would be 
> very helpful; suggestions that he ditch DOS & switch to UNIX will
> be gratifying (that's what _I_ said), and useful later on, but probably 
> not as helpful.  The spirit is willing, but the hardware is weak.

   I've got good reasons to switch from DOS to UNIX: I *like* UNIX as an 
environment, I once worked for an SCO Advanced Product Centre, some of the 
machines that I use from time to time are UNIX of either the SCO or AT&T 
variety; I have a 386/40 with a SCSI hard drive, etc...

   So, why don't I?  Money.  I'd want a recent version of UNIX, with DOS 
Merge and a C compiler.  To get that from SCO would cost about $2,000, I 
believe... and for that I could upgrade to a 486 with more RAM and a larger 
hard drive and feel much better about it than if I'd paid the money for the 
SCO OS and DevSys and found that it's barely tolerable on a 386/40 and crowded 
in 200 MB.

   I run Waffle 1.65 now.  It's not UNIX and trn, but it's decent.

   I've gated stuff from UUCP/Usenet to FidoNet format and read it using Fido 
tools; they are evolving to make better use of Usenet, but it's just not at 
the level that Waffle provides.

> I suspect there's a lot of choice amongst DOS BBSs,
> and the deciding factor will turn out to be how neatly the system handles
> UUCP & Usenet.

   Generally speaking, DOS BBSes work with Usenet only through a gateway of 
some sort, and support for features we take for granted under UNIX or even 
Waffle are either poor or completely missing.
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From: geoff@zswamp.UUCP (Geoffrey Welsh)
Newsgroups: tor.general,ont.uucp
Subject: Re: Favourite UUCP Bulletin Boards for DOS?
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 19:50:12 EDT
Organization: Izot's Swamp

evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes:

> We've been selling System V Releasse 4 for quite a while now, and the
> prices have *dropped* in the transition to the newest revision, 4.0.4:

   ESIX?

> That makes a 2 user, non-GUI development system ring in at a whopping $555.
> Canadian. Delivered. With TCP/IP, NFS and all sorts of bells & whistles.
> Compare this to:

   Sounds very attractive.

> DOS Merge is available, but I wouldn't wish that on a soul. Right now it
> looks like the best way to run DOS programs under UNIX is to get a cheap
> PC and run Desqview/X on it. 

   Keeping in mind that this is for a home machine, a second machine is not 
financially viable; the one I have now is what I'd call a minimum just for 
DV/X.  Even getting a cheaper machine to run plain DOS is unattractive, since 
it involves significant (for an individual) financial outlay (on top of the 
$555 for the OS) and some inconvenience.

   DOS Merge is a must, since I can't afford to ditch my existing DOS 
applications and buy UNIX versions (or even buy upgrades where available).

   I appreciate the encouragement, Evan, but it all boils down to this: this 
is a personal machine, and I couldn't spare the cash to buy it in the first 
place, let alone upgrade it.

   Of course, that won't stop me.

Geoff

P.S.: AIC Systems tells me that they're expecting 33 MHz 486DX2 systems 
(supposedly effective 66 MHz) Real Soon Now.  Hmm, that should run UNIX like a 
demon...

Geoffrey Welsh, 7 Strath Humber Court, Islington, Ontario, M9A 4C8 Canada
geoff@zswamp.uucp, [xenitec.on.ca|m2xenix.psg.com]!zswamp!geoff (416)258-8467
         Coincidentally, most people who fight for "fairness" would be
         significantly better off under the system they call "fair"...
From: don@tse.uucp (Don Marks)
Newsgroups: tor.general
Subject: Re: Q: does "FIX SIGNS" mean anything to anyone?
Date: 2 Sep 92 12:57:58 GMT
Distribution: tor
Organization: Toronto Stock Exchange

In article <3225@isgtec.isgtec.com> bmw@isgtec.com (Bruce M. Walker) writes:
>This is just idle curiosity, but ... for the last little while (months
>anyway, maybe years?) I've seen this peculiar graffiti appearing on
>paperboxes, garbage containers and utility poles:
>
>	FIX SIGNS
>
>I've noticed it all over the west end of Toronto; I've seen it in
>dozens of places.  It is invariably done in thick, black felt pen, and
>the lettering is fairly neat and deliberate (for grafitti).  It looks
>like someone really wants to get this message across.  Trouble is, what
>does it *mean*?
>
I don't know what it means (my guess is that he's complaining about all of
the band/movie posters around), but it is one of my favourite pieces of
recurring graffiti ("Jazzmongers" is another favourite).  Its kind of like
an in-joke that you don't quite understand, but appreciate just the same.
I used to think it was confined to the Queen Street area, but I've seen it
as far north as Steeles.  I've also seen the graffitti "PHONY KARMA" in the 
same writing.

Eye magazine claimed to have found the guy and did a piece on him several
months back, but it turned out someone was just pulling a joke on them.

On a related note, has anyone seen these great bibles bolted onto poles and
fences and things?

==============================================================================
Don Marks                       "I comb my hair, I shine my shoes
don@tse.UUCP                     but its all a stupid joke I confess to you"
                                  --- House of Freaks
Newsgroups: tor.general
From: wayne@csri.toronto.edu (Wayne Hayes)
Subject: Re: Desserts and Restaruants (Suggestions)
Distribution: na
Date: 23 Aug 92 20:05:21 GMT

<ADVI8737@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> writes:

>Does anyone have any suggestions for Desserts places or Good Restaruants
>in the Toronto area that is moderately priced or inexpensive.  If there are
>any desserts places opened till the wee hours of the night (3pm).

I know of two excellent places, both near U of Toronto Campus.  One is
called "Dessert Sensations", on the corner of Baldwin and Henry
streets, one block south and one block east of St. George and College.
They are open until at least midnight, I think 1am sometimes.

The other is called "Just Desserts", and I think it's acutally 24 hours
a day.  It's on the corner of Bedford and Davenport, just north of
campus and west of Avenue Rd.

-- 
The primary goal of science is to describe whatever scientists see as being
in need of description.

Wayne Hayes     INTERNET: wayne@csri.utoronto.ca        CompuServe: 72401,3525
From: geoff@zswamp.UUCP (Geoffrey Welsh)
Newsgroups: tor.general
Subject: Re: Anonymous FTP access wanted
Keywords: Internet Access, Anonymous FTP
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 13:39:06 EDT
Organization: Izot's Swamp

peters@beltrix.guild.org (Peter Sleggs) writes:

> CRS does not offer FTP, $100/yr gets 1 hr/day - from the unixbox
> the PCBOARD side is poor for anything not even mail is really reliable
> and consistent, news is chopped into 99 line pieces.

   CRS also operates a *real* UNIX box (with 1 GB of disk space and 32 lines, 
feeding directly off UUNET Canada) as well as their gateway to PCBoard.  
Although they don't currently offer FTP or any other Internet access, they say 
they're planning to.
Newsgroups: tor.general
From: alex@meadow.uucp (Alex Dumitru)
Subject: Byte Magazine
Reply-To: alex@meadow.UUCP (Alex Dumitru)
Organization: Amdahl Canada Ltd., Software Development Center
Distribution: tor
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 18:23:16 GMT

Just happened to glance at the cover of the September Byte... Then I read
the small print underneath it

	"Soon Unix will face its most powerful adversary: Windows NT. Will
	 Unix survive?"

This definitely wins the prize of the most obnoxious cover ever. Good thing
I did not renew my subscription.

alex
-- 

Only a surfer knows the feeling... [ alex@meadow.uucp alex@bedrock.guild.org ]

Newsgroups: tor.general,ut.general
From: tateishi@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Nao Tateishi)
Subject: house to share
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Services
Distribution: tor
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 00:13:54 GMT


 
seeking roommates to share a detached house.
  - near Ossington subway (3 minute walk)
  - hardwood floor 
  - garage
  - street parking available
  - clean cheerful + furnished apartment: room unfurnished
  - apartment on 2nd & 3rd floor
  - available immediately
 
Only $300/month, utilities included
Interested? Call Nao at 538-6826.
Or email.
From: vid@zooid.guild.org (David Mason)
Newsgroups: tor.general
Subject: Re: Q: does "FIX SIGNS" mean anything to anyone?
Date:  3 Sep 92 01:46:56 GMT

From: payne@ecf.toronto.edu (PAYNE DENISE JOYCE)
>
> 
>Re Fix Signs.
> 
>Well, its been a major scandal. If you're out in the west end, then mebbe you
>haven't been reading Eye magazine who did a large piece on this stuff.

I've noticed that a lot of the signs in the area where I live (Lawrence/Yonge)
have had the letters in "FIX SIGNS" turned into swastikas. Rather nasty little
twist on the whole thing.

Anyways.. it's all over the whole city, in plain public view and not. It's a
wonder the person hasn't been caught yet, and it's a wonder if it's just one
person.

There is another saying besides "FIX SIGNS" posted, but I don't remember what
it is offhand. Something equally meaningless I think. However, they all seem
to be in the same thick black marker.

Who knows, maybe it's someone complaining about all the graffitti.
Newsgroups: tor.general,ut.ai,ut.dcs.ai,ut.ee,ut.general,uw.general,uw.ai.learning,uw.ee.grad,uw.pami,comp.ai
From: guptar@ecf.toronto.edu (GUPTA PAWAN RAMGOPAL)
Subject: Re: Q: does "FIX SIGNS" mean anything to anyone?
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: tor
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 03:10:37 GMT

In article <3225@isgtec.isgtec.com> bmw@isgtec.com (Bruce M. Walker) writes:
>This is just idle curiosity, but ... for the last little while (months
>anyway, maybe years?) I've seen this peculiar graffiti appearing on
>paperboxes, garbage containers and utility poles:
>
>	FIX SIGNS
>
>	SPIT OUT THE APPLE
>
I have also noticed that  at most of the locations where the graffiti FIX SIGNS
is there is also another graffiti 
PHONY KARMA
very near to it or in the same vicinity in the same felt pen.
I am also very curious regarding the relevance of the sign.
Pawan.

Newsgroups: tor.general,ont.uucp
From: amdunn@mongrel.uucp (Andrew M. Dunn)
Subject: Re: Favourite UUCP Bulletin Boards for DOS?
Organization: A. Dunn Systems Corporation, Kitchener, Canada
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 13:25:28 GMT

In article <De6FqB4w165w@zswamp.UUCP> geoff@zswamp.UUCP (Geoffrey Welsh) writes:
>
>P.S.: AIC Systems tells me that they're expecting 33 MHz 486DX2 systems 
>(supposedly effective 66 MHz) Real Soon Now.  Hmm, that should run UNIX like a 
>demon...

I would guess September 15th for their new motherboard offerings.

I just sold a couple of systems based on their 25 MHz 486DX2 board.  It runs
most things like a demon.  UNIX,  MS-WINDOZE 3.1,  power MooSe-DOS apps,
it's a screamer.

I also sold a 486DX 50 MHz EISA box, with 32 MB RAM and a 1 GB SCSI-2
Maxtor drive.  Talk about flying, screaming power!

Pity my customers all have better hardware than me   :-(



Andy
-- 
:-------------------------------------------------------------------------:
:  Andy Dunn (amdunn@mongrel.uucp)  ({uunet...}!xenitec!mongrel!amdunn)   :
:  "AT&T thinks Usenet is an Underground organization" - are we really?   :
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Newsgroups: tor.general
From: hasmis@ohgpu.hydro.on.ca (Harold W. Asmis)
Subject: Giant slugs hit Toronto??
Organization: Ontario Hydro
Distribution: tor
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:59:00 GMT

Since it seems to be a slow day on tor.general, I was wondering if
anyone knew anything about giant slugs in the gardens this year.  On
the weekend, the sig. other was cleaning the garden, when she had a
total fit.  After having to run full speed to the garden, we discovered
this giant slug, a good 5" long, and an inch thick.  I disposed of it,
but we still have shudders thinking about it.  Has anyone come across
this?  Is this a separate variety of the ordinary, teensy slug, or an
ordinary slug that has gone wild on the mildewy tomatoes?  We have to
find out, we still have some reluctance to go into the garden.

Harold W. Asmis Tel:  (416) 592-7379  Fax: (416) 592-5322 EMail:
harold.w.asmis@hydro.on.ca

Newsgroups: tor.general
From: simon.s.huang@hydro.on.ca ()
Subject: Two Bedroom apartment for rent
Organization: Ontario Hydro
Distribution: tor
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:38:01 GMT

I am posting this for a friend


Two bedroom Semi-furnished Basement Apartment for rent.
Parking and Backyard.
@500 inclusive (hydro, heating and laundry fcilities
Please call 482-2639 after 6 pm


Newsgroups: tor.general
From: frankl@torag.guild.org (Frank Lemire)
Subject: Re: Q: does "FIX SIGNS" mean anything to anyone?
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 16:08:16 GMT
Organization: Torag Systems, Toronto, Ontario.
Distribution: tor

In article <1992Sep2.125758.7452@tse.uucp> don@tse.uucp (Don Marks) writes:
>
>On a related note, has anyone seen these great bibles bolted onto poles and
>fences and things?

	The bibles (spray painted gold) were from what I've been told a 
idea by some OCA (Ontario College of Art) students to try and beautify 
the city.  The idea backfires when some sleazy art gallery owners came 
along with bolt cutters and stole the books and sold them.  Since then,
most of the books have been defaced in one way or another by the original
artists.   At least this is how I've heard the story.......

>

-- 
Frank Lemire           | Teach me, Reach me, Meet me, Beat me, Tease me,
frankl@torag.guild.org | Please me, come and seize me.   
frankl@r-node.gts.org  |                                - Howard Jones
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From: ling@array.UUCP (Ling Guan)
Newsgroups: tor.general
Subject: Moving Sale
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:35:17 GMT
Distribution: tor
Organization: Array Systems Computing, Inc., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA


      Moving Sale. Leave the country, EVERYTHING MUST GO!

                             Item                            Price

      -- Queen size bed (A REAL BARGAIN! Mattress+Box+Frame, $400
         Serta Diamond Anniversary, perfect sleeper, luxury  or best offer
	 pillow soft, bought new one year ago at $670) 
      
      -- Double size bed (Mattress+Box+Legs, King Koil       $200
	 Spine Design, bought new five months ago at $350)   or best offer

      -- Baby Crib and Bumper Pad (Mattress of 190 coils     $45
	 used for only four months, free high chair)

      -- Stereo Cassette Player (Sony, double deck,          $50
         AF/MF radio, dubbling, and more, good condition) 

      -- 2 Drawers 					     $12 each
							     $20 for two

      -- Metal book self (Brown color, 4 levels, good        $10
	 condition)

      -- Rolling TV cart (Oak finish, seldom used)           $10

      -- And more

      Interested please call 408-0833 
      or send e-mail to ling@array.uucp	

      --Ling
From: peters@beltrix.guild.org (Peter Sleggs)
Newsgroups: tor.general
Subject: Re: Anonymous FTP access wanted
Keywords: Internet Access, Anonymous FTP
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 09:15:22 EDT
Organization: Bellatrix Systems Corp., Mississauga, ONT Canada

geoff@zswamp.UUCP (Geoffrey Welsh) writes:

> peters@beltrix.guild.org (Peter Sleggs) writes:
> 
> > CRS does not offer FTP, $100/yr gets 1 hr/day - from the unixbox
> > the PCBOARD side is poor for anything not even mail is really reliable
> > and consistent, news is chopped into 99 line pieces.
> 
>    CRS also operates a *real* UNIX box (with 1 GB of disk space and 32 lines,
> feeding directly off UUNET Canada) as well as their gateway to PCBoard.  
> Although they don't currently offer FTP or any other Internet access, they sa
> they're planning to.

In their paper propaganda they say they plan to, online its being played
down as a 'sometime in the future', given that they said they would fix
their deliberate mangling of their file collections at some time 'Its on
the todo list' somewhere about 6-9 months ago and it hasnt been done yet
I would say that they _dont_ offer it [ not for lack of people asking
for it either ]


--
Bellatrix Systems Corp. Mississauga, Ontario Canada
peters@beltrix.guild.org or beltrix!peters
From: geoff@zswamp.UUCP (Geoffrey Welsh)
Newsgroups: tor.general
Subject: Re: Anonymous FTP access wanted
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 13:41:48 EDT
Organization: Izot's Swamp

vid@zooid.guild.org (David Mason) writes:

> It's not $100/year anymore anyways, it's $150.

CRS Rates:

Yearly          Monthly         Service
------          -------         -------
$129.95         $12.95          Basic PCBoard membership
$129.95                         UNIX box shell account
$ 99.95                         UNIX box UUCP login

This is not a complete list by far.
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From: bdb@becker.GTS.ORG (Bruce Becker)
Newsgroups: tor.general,ont.uucp
Subject: Re: Favourite UUCP Bulletin Boards for DOS?
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:32:30 GMT
Organization: G. T. S., Toronto, Ontario

In article <2A9913BE.14B7@telly.on.ca> evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes:
|In article <Zq5wPB4w165w@zswamp.UUCP> geoff@zswamp.UUCP
|	(Geoffrey Welsh) writes:
|
|>   I've got good reasons to switch from DOS to UNIX: I *like* UNIX as an 
|>environment, I once worked for an SCO Advanced Product Centre, some of the 
|>machines that I use from time to time are UNIX of either the SCO or AT&T 
|>variety; I have a 386/40 with a SCSI hard drive, etc...
|
|>   So, why don't I?  Money.  [...]
|
| [...]
|Then there's always Coherent, Minix and Linux.


	...or you can pick up a complete machine for under
	$500 - AT&T 3B1 systems are easily available


-- 
  ,u,	 Bruce Becker			Toronto, Ontario
a /i/	 Internet: bdb@becker.gts.org	Uucp: ...!web!becker!bdb
 `\o\-e	 "We want the worm, and we want a cow!"
 _< /_	 	- More Jimison, ordering drinks for his table
Newsgroups: tor.general,ut.general,ut.dcs.general
From: djmcclur@csri.toronto.edu (David J. McClurkin)
Subject: housing wanted
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Distribution: tor
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:11:26 GMT

I am beginning my Ph.D. in the computer science department
at U of T, and need a place to live, by about Sept 7.
The ideal place would be in a shared house, preferably with
one or two other upper year or grad students, or with
working people.  I can affort up to $450/month, and if I
can walk to campus, so much the better.

If anybody can help me, send me E-mail, or call me at
408-3206 (Toronto) or at 519-669-8634 (Elmira).
Newsgroups: tor.general,ont.uucp
From: merce@iguana.uucp (Jim Mercer)
Subject: Re: Favourite UUCP Bulletin Boards for DOS?
Organization: Ed (the iguana) Memorial Society
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 01:16:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep02.132528.16072@mongrel.uucp> amdunn@mongrel.uucp (Andrew M. Dunn) writes:
>I also sold a 486DX 50 MHz EISA box, with 32 MB RAM and a 1 GB SCSI-2
>Maxtor drive.  Talk about flying, screaming power!

through a gross misunderstanding of "current technology" we have a Dell
486DX 50Mhz EISA box, 24 Meg, running as a Novell 3.11 server for
20 WordPerfect users.

these things really move.  can't wait for the 50 Mhz doubler to come out.

8^)

-- 
[ Jim Mercer   Reptilian Research  merce@iguana.reptiles.org  +1 519 893-6085 ]
[   "Like a pump in a fish tank, we keep new things coming in so old things   ]
[    don't die." -- Archie McPhee Catalog                                     ]
Newsgroups: tor.general
Subject: Re: Q: does "FIX SIGNS" mean anything to anyone?
From: moynes_r@qis.dofasco.ca
Date: 4 Sep 92 08:56:11 GMT
Distribution: tor
Organization: Dofasco Inc, Hamilton, Ont. Can.
Nntp-Posting-User: moynes_r

The sign fixer has been at work here in Hamilton too.  Just yesterday, I saw
"FIX SIGNS" on a utility pole.

Richard Moynes
moynes_r@qis.dofasco.ca

Newsgroups: tor.general
From: stnahc@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (L. Chan)
Subject: R-node phone number
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Distribution: tor
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:36:54 GMT


Hi, my friend has lost his phone number of R-Node in
a hard disk crash. Since I don't dial to R-Node, could
some one send me the R-Node number via e-mail?

thanx a lot.
-- 
+---------------------------------------------------------------+
| Lawrence Chan                     stnahc@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca |
+---------------------------------------------------------------+
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From: geoff@zswamp.UUCP (Geoffrey Welsh)
Newsgroups: tor.general,ont.uucp
Subject: Re: Favourite UUCP Bulletin Boards for DOS?
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 13:28:40 EDT
Organization: Izot's Swamp

vid@zooid.guild.org (David Mason) writes:

> Waffle is a DOS based BBS.

Quick tech note: Waffle is also available for UNIX (in C source form) for 
those who don't want to hand out shell accounts just for reading news.

> Personal comment: PCBoard is a grotesque, overpriced piece of junk. It's a
> real shame that PCBoard has become the standard.

   It's strictly your opinion that PCBoard is the standard, but I suppose that 
I shouldn't be surprised to hear this from someone in the vicinity of Canada 
Remote Systems. <grin>

   I'm of the opinion that FidoNet is the standard for DOS BBSing (in fact 
for non-Usenet BBSing in general), and it's serviced by a wide variety of BBS 
software which range from almost (but not quite) completely unlike PCBoard to 
software that's so configurable that it can mimic PCBoard well enough that a 
PCBoard user would be comfortable with it from the minute that they sign on.

> I've run Waffle and I liked it. There weren't any limitations as far as I'm
> aware.

   Threads would be nice.  I don't really miss the kill file, but some will.  
Running MS-DOS editors over the modem is always fun.  I could use expire, but 
I hear that it's available from third parties.  Version 1.65 actually splits 
the old Systems file down into Systems, Dialers, and Scripts... though I still 
miss Devices (Tom Dell might argue that DOS Waffle is not meant for 
multitasking and therefore should not need a Devices file... I'm not running a 
multiline Waffle but I *am* doing other things with my PC while uucico runs 
and I have implemented something similar to HDB device locking under DesqView, 
so I'd like to have some of UNIX' async port flexibility)
Newsgroups: tor.general,misc.books.technical