From: sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Subject: Re: What went wrong ?
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 17:52:32 GMT

[ Posted For : M.P.Krishna Raj ( raj@cs.odu.edu ) ]

--------------- M.P.Krishna Raj's article -----------------------------
In article <1992Aug21.162535.11051@ennews.eas.asu.edu> sridhar@enuxha.eas.asu.edu writes:
>I am not going to regret writing this article anyway and I am going
>to make enemies because of this article and the ensuing action/discussion 
>so be it.

Not really. You have contributed good articles regarding 
Tamil Transliteration schemes.  

>
>This group was intended to discuss literature/language issues right?
>The proposers of the group went at great lengths to laugh and
>ridicule many of the fears expressed at the outset even before the RFD
>went official. What happened, Sirs? 

The opposers of the group are posting articles only to incite others.
That is the problem. What about the non-tamils acting like tamils to post
offending articles and hate email ?
Please read my article Thyagarajan vs Niroshan Perera.

(e-g)Niroshan Perera's email via U.Waterloo to Thyagarajan
created 'Re: A THREAT from a boneless tiger in the net' thread.


>Infact, I was told in email that I am offending the sensibilities of
>those people wanting a language-oriented group. Infact I was not.
>After all I knew how soc.culture can turn out to be and having been in
>the heart of Madras I know how people react (No offense here, it is
>pretty natural whether right or wrong).

You are very correct in pointing out this.
How to disrupt public gathering !. Some guys 
are doing this with glee.

>
>What do I propose?
>
Please propose what ever you want. But leave the SCT intact. You
will find soon the opposers of SCT will be happy with the newgroup and
SCT will be free of flames.

>*	Making this group moderated (not by me!) or
>*	Moving this group to sci.lang.tamil or a rec.lit.tamil
         (stuff deleted)
>
>If there is enough interest, I will go for an RFD. Otherwise there is
>always the 'u' key which some have already used.

There are 2000 groups out there. Please spare SCT. If tamil is alien
to them then they can always use u key. They can always think this
as alien as soc.culture.mars and be happy. 

>
>Cheers,
>Sridhar.
>

You won't be cheerful after the formation your new group. 
As you said earlier you will find filthy stuff anyway.


Authentic Agmark Madras Bashai (e-g)

>From: rammohan@aludra.usc.edu (Karthikeyan Rammohan)

  " annathai, vishayatha muyusha solluppa.vetka padatha.Yen ella
------- pasangalaum poi ninnanga.? -------------------------------
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------------------.jamaichutta ya ava.summa solla koodathu,
naan ennanu solven."



>PS: Before anyone is going to pounce on me saying that I am heading an
>army or whatever, I haven't recd even a single email for rehashing the
>proposal. I am doing it on my own accord. 

Yes. You are correct. They don't know to do anything constructive.
They only know to destroy the reputation of the existing group.

(stuff omitted)

>This newsgroup being in a bad state, is it fair enough for a proposer
>to take a cheap shot on Alok?

Not really. If you form a newgroup that will be in bad state with
the active participation of the opposers of SCT. Soon another gentleman
will come up with an idea forming a brand new state of the art newgroup
......... So there will be no end.

But SCT will be free of flames.  

 M.P.Krishna Raj
 [ raj@cs.odu.edu ]
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