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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 06:58:01 -0600
Reply-To:     Leo Hurtado <poloh@monsterpc.win.net>
From:         Leo Hurtado <poloh@MONSTERPC.WIN.NET>
Subject: RE: himem.sys problem

>For DOS v5.x your CONFIG.SYS might look like this:
>
>break on
>fcbs=1
>files=40
>buffers=20
>stacks=9,256
>dos=high,umb
>device=c:\dos\himem.sys
>device=c:\dos\emm386.exe noems X=A000-AFFF X=B800-CDFF I=E000-EFFF
><<other stuff>>
>
>The number of FILES that you have open may depend on how many applications
>you have running and what type off applications they are.  If you run WPWIN
>you may have to change the FILES value to 60.  As for BUFFERS there is no
>real way that I know of, other than what the DOS & WINDOWS books indicate,
>how many you really need.  Windows indicates BUFFERS=30 if you have DOS 5.x
>and you are also running SMARTDrive.  If you use the look-ahead buffers option
>(BUFFERS=50,8) you'll eat up alot of conventional memmory and again I don't
>know that you need the look-ahead feature if your using SMARTDrive.  Now the
>STACKS option you'll have to play with ... the value you see STACKS=9,256
>comes from running with Networking software and using IBM's Token Ring and
>2 communications packages (one mainframe connection & one ASYNC) at work so
>you could just use the default values (leave it out?).
>
>For a typical 386/486 and for systems that need the hi-memory area for device
>drivers the remaining lines have proven to be ideal.  What you end up with
>is 135K of contigous high-mem to load SMARTDrive, ANSI.SYS, SETVER, ... and
>the list goes on.
>

Sorry to ask this silly question...but is it really safe to load
SMARTDrive in high memory?  I had some problems some time ago, and
I believe the cause was that I had it in high memory.  Then again,
SMARTDrive isn't the best cache out there is it?  I use
SuperPCKwik and I love it!!

Thanks for the info.

Leo Hurtado
OK Internat'l Business Co.
Video Production Manager
(214)458-8848 x121
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From: vchapman@victor02.carleton.ca (Vic Chapman)
Subject: Ventura Publisher
Keywords: printing ventura3.0
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:38:43 GMT

I am running ventura publisher 3.0 under windows 3.1 on a 50 mgz 486
with 8mb of memory. The printer is an HP LJIII with an HP postscript
cartridge. The printing performance from this combination is AWFUL!
The first page takes about a minute and a half, and subsequent pages
take over a minute. The printer has a 4mb of memory upgrade for a
total of 5mb. Now I have spent a lot of money on this combination and
the performance is terrible. What suggestions do you have to improve
maters?

We have tried a lot of things over the past three months without
success.

Any and all suggestions are appreciated.


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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 10:03:00 PST
From:         DAJ@ABS.NLC-BNC.CA
Subject:      HIMEM.SYS and A20 line control

>        When upgrade my operating system from DOS 3.3 to DOS 5.0,
> I couldn't install HIMEM.SYS because HIMEM.SYS couldn't control the A20
> line. Then I had to include the /machine:at1 parameter, and it work,
> but after to execute windows and run other application the driver HIMEM.SYS
> don't Work !!, because an error in application xxxxxx.exe in gdi.exe or
> ega.sys or knl386.exe in module xxxx:xxxx.
>       The Computer is a 386sx, 4 MB RAM, AMI BIOS (1988), a 80 MB SCSI hard
> disk, DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.1.


  I wonder if the problem is NOT with HIMEM.SYS, but with the AMI BIOS?

  In both Microsoft's documentation, and in Brian Livingston's "Windows
Secrets" (I may have the title wrong, but it is something similar), it is
stated that you should have a version of AMI BIOS that is NEWER than 1989
to work properly with Windows 3.1.

  I have a computer at work that has an AMI BIOS "030389", and I have all
kinds of problems with it under Windows, including the same type of error
that you are getting. My computer at home has an 1991 AMI BIOS, and it
runs without any problems at all.

  The problem is that getting an upgrade to the BIOS may be difficult unless
you know a dealer that will do it for you....

*----------------------------------------------------------------------*
|     Darryl Johnson                 Internet: DAJ@ABS.NLC-BNC.CA      |
|     Programmer/Analyst             Voice:    (819) 994-6846          |
|     National Library of Canada     FAX:      (819) 953-0291          |
|  ** Personal, not National Library, opinions in ALL cases.... **     |
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:59:51 -0700
From:         Ken Shaw <kens@CATSEQ.CATLIN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Conflicting Message/? Numbers

On Wed, 16 Dec 1992 zimmer@GW.WMICH.EDU wrote:

> In the process of working my way through Petzold's book (2nd ed., Win 3),
> I have now twice come across the following problem. When compiling a program
> that includes its definitions in its own header file, sometimes these conflict
> with other values within nested switch statements.  Concrete example:
>
>    Using the About2 program, app. page 420, there is a switch statement nested
>    within another.  The inside switch() has as one of its cases the custom-
>    defined IDD_MAGENTA, which corresponds to 15.  This clashes with WM_PAINT
>    used for a case in the outer switch statement, as WM_PAINT is defined as
>    15 in windows.h.  My fix, such as it is, consists of shifting the various
>    IDD_color values in About2.h from the original range of 10-17 downward to
>    7-14, to avoid the clash at 15.  The program now compiles and links fine,
>    but almost everything I click on in the program causes it to bomb, which
>    Win 3.1 gracefully "intercepts". (The display also didn't quite look
 right.)
>
> I'm running DOS 5.0, Win 3.1, 486-33DX machine, using Borland C 3.1 compiler.
>
> I realize my fix is probably not the best idea, but it was all that this
> almost beginner Windows programmer could think of.
> Is this something in the compiler (the book is geared towards Microsoft),
> am I doing or missing something stupid?  I've checked the source code; that
> seems to match what the book has.  Anyone have any clues or suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> W  WWW   WWW  MM   MMM   UU  UUU  U      Roy Zimmer  zimmer@gw.wmich.edu
> W  WW    WW  MM    MM    UU  UUU  U      University Computing Services
> W  W  W  W  MM  M  M  M  UU  UUU  U      Western Michigan University
> W    WW    MM  MM    MM  UUU     UU      Kalamazoo, Michigan     USA

What is the exact wording of the message?  I use BC 3.1 etc. and I have
never had a problem with nesting loops.  From your program description,
you might also check that you are expxorting all the appropriate functions.



                        -Ken
From: bjorn.myrland@sipaa.sintef.no (Bjorn Myrland)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.win3-l
Subject: Alternatives to NWPOPUP?
Date: 12 Dec 92 16:34:18 GMT
Organization: SINTEF

Does a decent alternative to NWPOPUP exist?

NWPOPUP frustrates me a bit because I tend to acknowledge away the popup 
window before I even discover it's there when I am working in e.g. a word 
processor (because NWPOPUP responds to pressing the spacebar, which is not 
exactly a rare event...).

Also, I could imagine a number of enhancements to NWPOPUP, like an option 
for immediately answering to a message having been SENDt from another user (
instead of OKing away NWPOPUP, locate NWTOOLS in my messy desktop, starting 
SEND or USERLIST from there, specifying username etc.).

Looking forward to an overwhelming list of ftp-sites and file names,
Bjorn.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
   Bjorn Myrland                  *  bjorn.myrland@sipaa.sintef.no
   SINTEF Safety and Reliability  *  N-7034 Trondheim, NORWAY
 -------------------------------------------------------------------
   SINTEF - The Foundation for Scientific and Industrial Research
                at the Norwegian Institute of technology
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 09:54:32 EST
From:         bgates@MICROSOFT.COM
Subject:      Windows is LAME...

My friends....

Microsoft windows in lame....

thanks, but QUIT wasting your money on it!

Bill Gates
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Date:         Sun, 13 Dec 1992 07:31:27 CST
From:         Mike Oswald <MOSWALD@UNMCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: himem.sys problem

For DOS v5.x your CONFIG.SYS might look like this:

break on
fcbs=1
files=40
buffers=20
stacks=9,256
dos=high,umb
device=c:\dos\himem.sys
device=c:\dos\emm386.exe noems X=A000-AFFF X=B800-CDFF I=E000-EFFF
<<other stuff>>

The number of FILES that you have open may depend on how many applications
you have running and what type off applications they are.  If you run WPWIN
you may have to change the FILES value to 60.  As for BUFFERS there is no
real way that I know of, other than what the DOS & WINDOWS books indicate,
how many you really need.  Windows indicates BUFFERS=30 if you have DOS 5.x
and you are also running SMARTDrive.  If you use the look-ahead buffers option
(BUFFERS=50,8) you'll eat up alot of conventional memmory and again I don't
know that you need the look-ahead feature if your using SMARTDrive.  Now the
STACKS option you'll have to play with ... the value you see STACKS=9,256
comes from running with Networking software and using IBM's Token Ring and
2 communications packages (one mainframe connection & one ASYNC) at work so
you could just use the default values (leave it out?).

For a typical 386/486 and for systems that need the hi-memory area for device
drivers the remaining lines have proven to be ideal.  What you end up with
is 135K of contigous high-mem to load SMARTDrive, ANSI.SYS, SETVER, ... and
the list goes on.
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:43:43 CET
From:         Joern-Morten Innselset <VEI92001@NOBIVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: How do I start Windows 3.1 ?
              16 Dec 1992 16:31:16 GMT from <IQUILD92@IRLEARN.UCD.IE>

On Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:31:16 GMT Peter Ivan Quill said:
>>I seem to have a problem |
>>I don't know how to start Windows 3.1 |
>>I have tried everything :
>>    win3.1
>>    win3
>>    windows3.1
>>    windows3
>>    windows.*
>>
>Tell himto look for the exe and to check that its in his path statement
>and wht am I tellin you this......you know this already!
>How goes
>
>See pmail is up
>
>Ivan

 Yep. See what happens. I leave my account unattended for 15 minutes, and
 my buddy plays me one. Sorry guys.. (That means, I actually KNEW how
 to start windows)

 Look for the BATSIGN for indentification the next time a silly question
 comes up.


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         ./'.I'.'IIII\\I..    )o o(    ..I//IIII"."I."\.
      ./'..I'.II IIIII\\\\ ""      "" ////IIIII II."I.."\.
    ./'.II'.IIII IIIIIIIIIIII.     .IIIIIIIIIIII IIII."II."\.
   /'III'.IIIIII IIIIIIIIIIII(     )IIIIIIIIIIII IIIIII."III"\
  ".III".IIIIIII IIIIIIIIIIII(     )IIIIIIIIIIII IIIIIII.`III.`
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 "    "         "               V               "         "    "

 A Whale a Day Keeps the Doctor Away

 Another member of The BatSign Board (TM)
 Morten Innselset, Norwegian School of Management, Oslo
 Bitnet adress: VEI92001@NOBIVM
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:24:00 CDT
From:         "ETDAI2::LEONG" <leong%etdai2.decnet@MDCGWY.MDC.COM>
Subject:      RE: a Silly question !! ADDENDA

*--- Attached Message ---*
>         I know this is not the best place but...
>         If i want to send a mail from compuserve to internet, what
> i have to do ??  Please send me an example !!!
>
> Thanks in advance
> Sergio

No problem, send mail to

name : Santa     Adres: Internet:Santa@lapland.edu (example)
       ^^^^^            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That's it, that's that ...
*--- End Attached Message ---*

The InterNetwork MailGuide sez :

#F compuserve
#T fax
#R +1 415 555 1212
#I send to '>FAX 14155551212'
#I not transitive - message must originate from a CompuServe user
#I for calls outside the NANP, use '011' as the international prefix

#F compuserve
#T internet
#R user@domain
#I send to '>INTERNET:user@domain' (only from CompuServe users)

#F compuserve
#T mci
#R 123-4567
#I send to '>MCIMAIL:123-4567' (only from CompuServe users)

Hope this helps.

Chee Woo Leong
St. Louis, MO
ci$ : 71121.2302@compuserve.com
AOL : cwcheese@aol.com
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:09:38 EST
From:         "NATHAN BRINDLE" <NBRINDLE@INDYCMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: UART overrun and Procomm Aggravation
              16 Dec 1992 20:38:47 EST from <jmalloy@HAMILTON.ED U>

I'd tend to agree that the ProWin software is not the culprit except for
the fact that I cannot get text files to upload using Kermit to the VM
mainframe.  I have no problem doing this with PCPlus/DOS.  I have the
Kermit parameters set identically in PCPlus/DOS and ProWin.  (They are
not the default, I might add.)  Result:  ProWin uploads EBCDIC trash
and PCPlus/DOS gets the job done correctly.  Downloads work fine, however.

Of course, I've had the odd quirk with ProWin, also...like the keyboard
locking up for no good reason IN OTHER APPS when ProWin has either a)
been run before the other app or b) is running minimized or just in another
window.  I'm about ready to junk ProWin and go back to PCPlus.  Nice
features--too many quirks.

Plus the fact that the file clipboard doesn't recognize 8 letter filetypes
and a space separator instead of a dot...ARRRRGGH!  Altho I <did> get a
response that they would provide for that in the next upgrade.

-----------------------------------------------------BITNET:  NBRINDLE@INDYCMS
Nathan C. Brindle, Student Activities Office
Staff Advisor, ALPHA PHI OMEGA, TAU OMICRON CHAPTER
Indiana University-Purdue University at Indianapolis
Internet:    NBRINDLE@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU or NBRINDLE@INDIANA.EDU (slow!)
Compu$erve:  71461.2471@COMPUSERVE.COM
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From: PNYAPTN@PACEVM.BITNET (tuan)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.win3-l
Subject: system halted
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:13:36 GMT
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3.1 windows users,

   I have been getting the following error after exiting windows:

   internal stack overflow
   system halted

   This may occur right after I get out or soon after and I have to reboot
my machine to restart it..

My config.sys is as follows:

FILES=30
device=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
device=c:\windows\emm386.exe noems
devicehigh=c:\fprot\virstop.exe
DOS=umb high
BUFFERS=40
devicehigh=$fdd5.sys
devicehigh=c:\dos\driver.sys /d:2 /f:0
DEVICEhigh =C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS
shell=c:\command.com /e:512 /p
DEVICEhigh=C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE /DOUBLE_BUFFER
devicehigh=C:\WINDOWS\MOUSE.SYS /y
STACKS=9,512

and my autoexec.bat

@echo off
@lh C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE
PATH c:\dos;c:\;c:\fprot;c:\nu;c:\pcmag;c:\windows;c:\winword
@SET TEMP=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP
@set nu=c:\tools\nu
@prompt $p$g
@lh c:\dos\doskey
@lh C:\DOS\SHARE.EXE
lh c:\lan_ps2\ipx
lh c:\lan_ps2\net5

   Hardware:  IBM PS/2 Model 70 with 4 MB of memory and 150 MB of diskspace
              VGA monitor
   Software:  IBM DOS 5.0, Windows 3.1
   Note: this error also occured without the ipx and net5 loaded

   Have anyone seen this before? what have you done to prevent it? Any
suggestions will be extremely appreciated. Thanks.

   Tuan Nguyen
   Programmer
   Pace University
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:39:04 -1000
From:         Bin Zhang <BZHANG@UHUNIX.BITNET>
Subject:      Problem with QVT

Hi, netters!

I sometimes have problem with WinQVT (single user version).  Sometimes
when I started QVT, the window becomes smaller and the text becomes
unreadable.  Then I have to go to Setup, change the character set to
terminal.  The screen and text then goes back to normal.  Can anyone tell
me what was going on?  Thank you  in advance.

   __             ___
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 09:16:04 CST
From:         "Brian T. Wightman" <wightman@SOL.ACS.UWOSH.EDU>
Subject:      486sx/dx

Hi All,

My understanding of the difference between the 486sx and dx (from third
party discussions, not from actual research or reading, so it may be
in error) is that the sx is a dx that did not pass the coprocessor
tests.  In the same discussion it was stated that the failure rate in
these tests could be as high as 70 percent.  By selling the chips as
a low end 486 (ie, 486sx), B. Gates and Co. is able to recoup what
would otherwise be losses.

This is just what I heard, and may not be totally accurate; please no
flames, just let me know where I am incorrect  :)

Just putting my $0.02 in.

Brian T. Wightman

wightman@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu
wightman@oshkoshw.bitnet
From: 92636828s@csghsg5a.bitnet
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Subject: Re: Memory limits in windows 3.1
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:15:24 GMT
Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland

 
> As far as the dedicated swap file, there is a limit.  Assuming that
> you have plenty of contiguous disk space, the limiting factor is the
> amount of RAM that your system has available to Windows.  The swap
> file can only use ~2x this size.  You can make it bigger (Windows will
> allow you to after warning you) but anything over the amount that
> Windows suggests (assuming enough contiguous space) will be useless.
> 
> The reason for this is that Windows needs to have certain parts of
> each application an itself in real RAM, and the figure that they give
> you is the maximum amount that could get used if only the parts that
> had to be in RAM were in RAM and everything else was in the swap file.
> 
> -Vance Gloster
>  gloster@inference.com
What you write about the maximal size of the permanent swap file
can't be true. When I installed Windows 3.1 on my machine (486DX33)
Windows suggested a swapfile-size of 16 MByte although I've got only
4 MByte of RAM, and I also didn't get any kind of warnings.
-- 

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From: blakeco@microsoft.com (Blake Coverett)
Subject: Re: Conditional STARTUP.GRP
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:17:39 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Canada Inc.

In article <1992Dec09.030028.2537@microsoft.com> I write:

[describing a tool to allow conditional execution of the startup group]

>----cut here----
>begin 777 ifenv.uue
>M35J!  ,    @    __\'   !94      0     $                     

Oops... brain fault on my part.  The above should obviously read:

begin 777 ifenv.exe

changing it to this before you uudecode it will avoid the "short file" errors
several people have written me about.  Apologizes all around.

-Blake (looking very embarassed considering I was a long time Unix hack
        before coming to Microsoft)
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:26:06 EST
From:         "Joseph T. Malloy" <jmalloy@ITSMAIL1.HAMILTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Query: WindowCraft
              "rgleason@LEGENT.COM" at Dec 18, 92 10:28 am

>Windows does not rule when compared to a Mac.  I really don't want to get into
>this religous discussion, but a PC with DOS/Windows cannot even touch a
>Macintosh.  In terms of training, support, ease of use, hiding most of the
>ugliness of the operating system, Mac wins hands down (IMHO).  This is given
>from a perspective of a person wanting to use a tool to do work and not work on
>the machine.  If you like to tweak and tinker thousands of options, stay with a
>PC.
>

If you didn't want to get into this discussion, why did you respons in
the first place?  Do you think you're the only one entitled to give an
opinion?

By the way, your opinion is scarcely universally shared!

Ciao and seasonally correct greetings!

Joe
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:21:16 EST
From:         "Kris Beatty" <krisb@WESTFORD.CCUR.COM>
Subject:      Re: thanks + question
              14 Dec 92 10:17:06 +0200.
              <9212142302.aa22558@masscomp.westford.ccur.com>

> Perhaps does anybody knows where i can find the way to acces SQLCA.SQLERRD[2]
> from a SQL Windows application ?
> Perhaps does anybody knows if there is a SQL WINDOWS list where I could ask
> my question?

Laurence,
        Have been away from coding for a while and have not used sql windows.
Have you tried doing something like;

        LET serial_number = sqlca.sqlerrd[2]
        DISPLAY serial_number

        or

In your display.per or display.frm where serial is defined as f7 and
f7 = FORMONLY.serial_number;
        DISPLAY sqlca.sqlerrd[2] TO serial_number

HTH,
Kris Beatty
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Date:         Sun, 20 Dec 1992 15:57:00 CDT
From:         KNOPF@FNAL.BITNET
Subject:      Menu in Dialog Box

From the Developer's Network CD:

Windows version 3.0 does not support menus in dialog boxes that have
the DS_MODALFRAME style.
This restriction is in place to comply with the Common User Access
(CUA) standards developed by IBM. A copy of the CUA specification is
included with each copy of the Windows Software Development Kit (SDK)
version 3.00. Pages 145-146 of the "Systems Application Architecture,
Common User Access: Advanced Interface Design Guide" document include
a table that specifies that dialog boxes are not to use "action bars,"
or menus.
Dialog boxes in Windows do support menus as long as the DS_MODALFRAME
style is absent and the WS_SYSMENU style is present. This behavior
will be supported in future versions of Windows for applications that
require greater functionality than that provided by a strict
interpretation of CUA.

  Walter Knopf
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