HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
Subject: Re: Re. Integrity
Organization: LLNL
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:57:08 GMT

In article <carlson.722007837@cwis> carlson@cwis.unomaha.edu (Brian D. Carlson) writes:
>	BTW I am a conservative, and I know why I am a conservative.

...I
>just don't agree with the idea that the state is the answer to all our
>problems.

	Then are you an anarchist? Or even just a Libertarian? Do you
build the road for your house? Are you a vigilante? After all, the
government can't be the solution to problems like road building and
law enforcement, right?

...I don't think that the state should fund any and all abortions
>for whatever reason they may be wanted.

	But what if people fund their own abortions? Or contribute to
a private charity that funds abortions for those who could not
otherwise afford them?

I believe that people should
>have incentive for hard work, and those who don't work hard shouldn't be
>patted on the hand with entitlements that cost our government (that's
>you and I) the majority of our budget.

	Typical right-wing kvetching. You sound just like all those
fat-cat right-wingers who don't really understand what
lower-middle-class people have to go through.

	[kvetching about bias deleted...]

	Of course it's biased, when it's something you don't like.
Read what the political left has to say some time (the _genuine_ left,
like Harel Barzilai and his friends who post on places like
talk.politics.misc and alt.activism, not someone middle-of-the-road).
Those folx are _convinced_ that the mainstream news media are biased
in a rightward direction.

	[Liberals are miserable while conservatives are happy...]

	A lot of the right-wingers on the net and in the world at
large sound very smug and hateful. Rush Limbaugh could be dismissed as
someone's stereotype of a right-winger, except for the fact that he
really exists. Of course, they feel that their hatreds are justified,
so they are not likely to notice what they feel.
From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: alt.fan.dan-quayle is expiring
Date: 22 Nov 92 19:11:34 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Nntp-Posting-User: f67700241

The group is finally dying.

During the height of the election campaign, our sysadmin put the group 
on two-day expire in order to combat the traffic.  Now a.f.d-q has only
15 messages in it after an overnight cleanup.

C'mon, Dan, COMMIT to 1994!  We need ya!
--
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin      Interviewer: "Sir, how do you spell relief?"
f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu               Dan: "R-O-L-A-I-D-S-E."

"[George Bush is] the most ruthless white man in the history of the planet."
	-- Richard Ben Cramer, author of _What It Takes_
"The President scores much better than Bill Clinton."
	-- Dan, comparing Bush's record of marital infidelity to Clinton's
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Subject: Re: What are the chances of a Quayle presidency?
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 04:56:18 GMT

In article <D2150056.ir82ah@erics.infoserv.com> erics@infoserv.com writes:
>What are the chances that Dan Quayle will someday be president of the
>U.S.? Slim to none if history is any guide, assuming Bush survives until
>January 20.

Hmm.  So where does that leave Our Boy's political future?

Quayle.  Dan Quayle: head of the CIA?
Dan "Niccolo" Quayle: Power Behind the Throne?
Jeeves Danforth Quayle: Presidential chauffer?
Capt. James T. Quayle: Space shuttle captain?


In fiscal year 1991, the government agencies classified as secret a
total of 7,107,017 documents.  This marks the first time that the
total number of reported classification decisions in a year is a
palindrome.		-- 1991 Information Security Oversight Office
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: The Repackaging of Dan Quayle
From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Date: 20 Nov 92 13:58:05 MST
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Nntp-Posting-User: f67700241

In article <bpnq!!n@lynx.unm.edu>, bhjelle@carina.unm.edu () writes:
> Since everyone here is clearly a FAN of Dan Quayle, hoping to
> see him in the White House in '96 (if not sooner!), would it
> be too much to ask that you all come up with useful suggestions
> for the Repackaging of Dan Quayle? The list of ideas will
> be promptly forwarded to CRPDQ.

Hey, good idea!  I say the official pronunciation should be:
  Creep, Dan Quayle

-- 
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin      Interviewer: "Sir, how do you spell relief?"
f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu               Dan: "R-O-L-A-I-D-S-E."

"[George Bush is] the most ruthless white man in the history of the planet."
	-- Richard Ben Cramer, author of _What It Takes_
"The President scores much better than Bill Clinton."
	-- Dan, comparing Bush's record of marital infidelity to Clinton's
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: train@gvls2.gvl.unisys.com (Herbert Rutledge)
Subject: Guess who I just found...
Keywords: grammar, atrocious; diction, shitty
Organization: Paramax Systems Corporation, Paoli PA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:11:37 GMT


  Hey, everybody!  Guess who I just found lurking in alt.good.news, of all
  newsgroups (the virginial!  pristine! alt.good.news!).  It's our old
  flamebait acquaintence, Perry M. Jowsey!  To wit:


Article: 831 of alt.good.news
From: v115r4q5@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Perry M Jowsey)
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
Subject: No good news
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:53:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


  Ever since November 3, 1992, there has been no good news for me or for America
I imagine it will be some time before good news rains down on any of us, and it 
was a shame to see voters get tricked into voting for a con man like Bill 
Clinton.  To locate this bad news, one only has to look at Clinton's plan for 
America as well as his record in Arkansas.  Remember the last Democrat adminis-
traion- inflation sky high, as well as interest rates and gas prices.  Also 
keep in mind it has been the democrats that got America involved in World War I
and World War II, as well as Korea and Vietnam.



  Thought he'd try a place where we'd *never* look, did he?

  Ready...aim...enjoy!


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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: train@gvls2.gvl.unisys.com (Herbert Rutledge)
Subject: Re: Re. Integrity
Organization: Paramax Systems Corporation, Paoli PA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:42:10 GMT

In article <carlson.722007837@cwis>, carlson@cwis.unomaha.edu (Brian D. Carlson) 
causes the Narrative Writing instructors at the University of Nebraska English
department to hang their collective heads in shame with:  
 
  [Entire post deleted]

  Just what does all of this have to do with Our Idol, Soon-to-be-Former
  Vice President Dan Quayle?

  Here's how it is.  We're here to make fun of the man whom many of us regard
  as the dumbest shit to come down the turnpike since Spiro Agnew. To paraphrase 
  Hemingway, this newsgroup is about pathos and irony.  Irony (.fan) and 
  pathos (.dan-quayle).
 
  Get over it.

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From: tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: The real Dan Quayle
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:19:00 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group

In article <1992Nov16.203050.22610@u.washington.edu> sieferme@stein.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman) writes:

>My belief (shamelessly named "Eric's Hypothesis") is that Our Boy
>is a Reagan-In-Training.  DQ is photogenic, vacuous, and
>usually appears innocent and non-threatening.  He is improving
>his acting skills, and is getting better at delivering
>bland platitudes as if they are profound nuggets of wisdom.
>Most importantly, he has shown that is willing to be molded 
>by powerful interests both inside and outside the RepubliCon Party,
>just like Ronnie Reagan.  Whether this will be sufficient to
>gain the nomination in 1996 remains to be seen.

That exactly correct.  People who like form over substance will LOVE the
new spin controlled Dan Quayle.  (Quayle lite).   A blow dried Robert
Redford-type, who can sell product to the voters without real concern
for facts and content.

You know what you find if you scratch Clinton?  A complex person who
dissembled about his draft status, probably slept with a Bimbo, and
tries to straddle both sides of an issue if it is complex.

You know what you find if you scratch Dan Quayle?  The other side.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Subject: Re: Have some respect
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:44:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.192456.8111@sj.nec.com> bigdave@texas.tdd.sj.nec.com (David Sweeney  x2987) writes:
>v115r4q5@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Perry M Jowsey) writes:
>>
>>  ....  Perhaps it will take a few months of a Clinton administration 
>>for some people to realize it, but Vice President Quayle has been the best 
>>political mind in the White House for 4 years, and considering the recently 
>>elected crop, there won't be a man to top his stature for years to come.  
>
>Heh.  And Moe had the best political mind in the Stooges.

"Moe is their leader."
		-- Homer Simpson



In fiscal year 1991, the government agencies classified as secret a
total of 7,107,017 documents.  This marks the first time that the
total number of reported classification decisions in a year is a
palindrome.		-- 1991 Information Security Oversight Office
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: spencer@ais.org (Spencer PriceNash)
Subject: REPUBLICANS ATTACK!
Organization: UMCC
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:08:34 GMT

I recently received a flyer from Kitchen Sink Press.  Their latest
offerings include the 36-card set called "REPUBLICANS ATTACK!"  It has
apparently been mentioned in the Wall Street Journal.

Among the cards are one with Oliver North shredding the Constitution
while Bush stands by in amazement, one with Clarence Thomas wielding a
Coke can and chasing a woman, one with Ted Kennedy in heart-patterened
boxers as some kind of horrible monster, and one with the caption "Dan
and Mr. Potatoe Heade", labeled RETURN TO CENTER.  Dan is weeping
profusely, holding a Mr. Potato Head, with some kind of joyous look on
his face.

I love these contemporary card sets.  The sort of thing to buy and
keep around and look at 20 years from now, so I don't forget.
-- 
Spencer PriceNash   spencer@spencer.ann-arbor.mi.us   spencer@ais.org
From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Subject: Re: The Repackaging of Dan Quayle
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:34:26 GMT

In article <bpnq!!n@lynx.unm.edu> bhjelle@carina.unm.edu () writes:
>
>Since everyone here is clearly a FAN of Dan Quayle, hoping to
>see him in the White House in '96 (if not sooner!), would it
>be too much to ask that you all come up with useful suggestions
>for the Repackaging of Dan Quayle? The list of ideas will
>be promptly forwarded to CRPDQ.

Use tape.  Lots of tape.  The kind with filaments is the best: very
strong, though to tear.



A cartoon found in last week's New Yorker:
Picture: Middle-aged man talking to another middle-aged man in a bar.
Caption: "I just heard that Superman is going to die.  He's the same
	  age I am!"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: train@gvls2.gvl.unisys.com (Herbert Rutledge)
Subject: Re: Have some respect
Organization: Paramax Systems Corporation, Paoli PA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:06:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.015535.9028@uts.cc.wayne.edu>, tom@uts.cc.wayne.edu 
(Thomas Richard Stevenson) writes:

|> madhaus@netcom.com (Maddi Hausmann) writes:
|> 
|> >tom@uts.cc.wayne.edu (Thomas Richard Stevenson) quotes himself:
|> >>
|> >>>NPR is a liberal news show. It would not be at all difficult for them to 
|> >>>find liberal college debate referees that would side with a liberal
|> >>>viewpoint. 
|> >>
|> >>After reading this, I realized that this sounds as thought I'm suggesting
|> >>that NPR did go out of it's way to pick "liberal college debate referees 
|> >>that would side with a liberal viewpoint.". I did not mean to suggest that.
|> >>Only NPR knows that.
|> 
|> The only reason I did a followup on my own responce was to point out
|> that I may have mislead people by my comments. I have no idea why 
|> Maddi had to resort to the personal attack when I was pointing out
|> my own mistake. I was not being sarcastic. If anyone is in alt.fan.rush-
|> group, you can see that I dislike attacks of any kind. I am being flamed
|> in there, and getting mail all the time for being liberal. I ment nothing
|> by the "Only NPR knows that.". I have never said one thing about
|> President-Elect Clinton and the draft. These are all just personal
|> attacks on me (which is fine, I guess. Freedom of speach and all). 
|> I just feel that a person gets their point over better when they
|> rebuke the idea in place of just attacking the person. 

  OK, I'll rebuke the idea.  First of all, NPR stands for "National Public
  Radio."  It is not a "liberal news show."  It is a radio production and
  distribution organization.  Do you really want us to assume that your idea
  of a "liberal news show" includes "Car Talk"?

  A small grammatical flame.  The characters .". I assume to be punctuation
  marks rather than UNIX C shell metacharacters.  If so, please be advised that
  periods never appear outside of double quotation marks.
  

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| Valley Forge Labs, M/S GVL-3    |                                       |
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: Martin A Laster <mlaster@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Write a short story
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:14:16 GMT


This is for all you creative story writers.  Let's see how well you can write.

If you could create a character for you to be for only one night at your
favorite night club, what would you think would happen that night at that
club.  Explain in detail the following;
 
	1) your character (i.e. employee, user)
	2) your night at the club (i.e. things you did, people you met)
  
Please keep it as realistic as possible, but also creative as possible.
This is for a study that I am doing for a night club owner who is planning
to open a new club.

Send all replies to this post to vlusane@magnusug.acs.ohio-state.edu

Have Fun !!!!!!!!!

Thank you
From: train@gvls2.gvl.unisys.com (Herbert Rutledge)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: The real Dan Quayle
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:39:12 GMT
Organization: Paramax Systems Corporation, Paoli PA

In article <BxtKqt.7wA@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v115r4q5@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu 
(Perry M Jowsey) doesn't know when to quit:

|> Quayle has embraced the conservative philosophy that will surface in the 1996 
|> Presidential election, and this coupled with his ability to overcome the nega-
|> tive press he endured in his four years as VP should put him in a commanding 
|> position in the 1996 campaign.  

   I would submit to you this:  Dan Quayle's negative press wasn't something
   that was merely endured.  It was earned.


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| Valley Forge Labs, M/S GVL-3    |                                       |
| P.O. Box 517, Paoli, PA  19301  |                     ---Alexander Pope |
| Internet: train@gvl.unisys.com  |                                       |
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: paT bUcHAnaN
Subject: Re: Mr. Stupid Goes to Washington
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:26:08 GMT

In article <97733@netnews.upenn.edu> weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew  
P Wiener) writes:
> I saw a new novel with the above title in the bookstore.  The jacket
> says it's about--of all things--a somewhat clueless and inexperienced
> rich newspaperman's son who ends up as US Vice President.  The book
> has a disclaimer that the characters in the novel are completely
> fictional, and any similarity between them and anyone living or dead
> is just a coincidence.  The disclaimer then says "but if the shoe fits,
> wear it".
> -- 
> -Matthew P Wiener (weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu) "[George Bush] is a man
>  who was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple." --Jim Hightower

They should make a book on how a draft-dodging, dope smoking, skirt  
chasing "man" made it all the way to be President.  Fictional of course.

*****When I was growing up, I was told that anyone could become President.   
I'm beginning to believe it.*****
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: train@gvls2.gvl.unisys.com (Herbert Rutledge)
Subject: Re: Marilyn the Fashion Don't
Organization: Paramax Systems Corporation, Paoli PA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:32:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.211010.28930@netcom.com>, madhaus@netcom.com 
(Maddi Hausmann) writes:

|> The local paper recently had a feature on updating your image,
|> and talked about the dangers of keeping the same hair, clothes
|> and makeup for too long, for fear you'd be seen as "out of it."
|> 
|> One of the examples they gave was Marilyn Quayle, who did not
|> get rid of her hairstyle (the flip) for a long time.  No wonder
|> they didn't smoke dope and burn draft cards.  They were too
|> busy watching Marlo Thomas in "That Girl."

  The only recorded evidence that we have of Marilyn's ability to
  successfully read a scripted joke comes from a speech she gave,
  early in the Bush administration, to the National Press Club:
  "Read my flips."



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| Herbert Rutledge, aka Train     |                                       |
| Paramax Systems Corporation     | "To post is human; to flame, divine." |
| Valley Forge Labs, M/S GVL-3    |                                       |
| P.O. Box 517, Paoli, PA  19301  |                     ---Alexander Pope |
| Internet: train@gvl.unisys.com  |                                       |
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: schenn@mars.lerc.nasa.gov (Lisa Henn)
Subject: Re: If Marilyn has only one life to live...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 17 Nov 1992 10:47 EDT  

In article <1992Nov16.214948.24592@s1.gov>, lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes...

>	And she has demonstrated blatant hypocrisy by supporting her
>husband's political career and not being a good housewife and staying
>home and baking cookies.

On the contrary:  part of that ideal, paradigm if you will, is that the woman
supports her _family_ in whatever capacity necessary.  Sometimes that is
"being there" for the kids (and baking cookies so that the kids will be happy
and/or play around the house (where mom cna support them)).  Sometimes it 
means talking to the husband about his horrible work day.  And always supporting
that husband for his every career move.

When I hear Marilyn Quayle and Barbara Bush supporters talk, they mention all
of these things as good things to do.  My paragraphs here are not an endorsement,
just a summary of all the things involved in this same idea.

So, if you were to ask Mrs. Quayle about her hypocrisy, she would probably
tell you that she sees supporting her husband as consistent with women's true
nature.

Somewhat on this same subject, _Working Women_ magazine has a "Hall of Shame"
feature that they run every year at this time.  Marilyn and Barbara were 
pictured as part of the item about the new Super-Villan:  if you thought
Willie Horton was scary, watch out!  Here comes:  Careerwoman!  The item went
on to touch on how having a career for a woman was an "out" thing, citing
Hillary Clinton's change in wardrobe, Marilyn Quayle's speech, and the fact
that Barbara Bush attributed her (Barbara's) participation in teh campaign
as "just going about my own dumb way, trying to help out" (I may not have
the quote right).  The article also inducts Our Boy into the Hall for saying
that Murphy Brown mocks the importance of fathers.  (Thus, Lisa slips in
an OBDQ reference, increasingly rare on this group :)

L
schenn@mars.lerc.nasa.gov
-------------------------
Disclaimer:  My employer does not claim that we can breathe on Mars.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Dave Barry & Dan Quayle
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:44:16 GMT

In article <Bxx5pr.5wn@scd.hp.com> dianem@boi.hp.com (Diane Mathews) writes:
)Hi, I'm not a newbie, but i don't know how to kill files by certain authors.
)Could someone help me?

Put this line in the file ~/News/alt/fan/dan-quayle/KILL :

/v115r4q5/h:=:j

(assuming v115r4q5 is the login name of the person you're trying to avoid...
you can put any name or keyword there.)

It is sort of pointless, though, because we have a new Dan-Fan Republican
every week.  They make several dozen ridiculous posts, claiming stupid things
like Bush having more popular votes than Clinton, Gore saying cars were more
dangerous than nukes, Danny Q being intelligent, etc.  Once they see we're
not falling for their lies, they fade away and are soon replaced by another
Limbot...

-- 
  "It begins here--an army--to bring sense to a world plagued by worse than
   thieves and murderers. This will be a good life... good enough."
             Bruce Wayne, "Batman: The Dark Knight Returns"
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