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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 09:46:57 EST
From: Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Pak-Aus ODI; Pak 195/5 in 47, Aus 150/1 in 37
 <1992Dec13.052148.12568@leland.Stanford.EDU>
 <1992Dec13.055409.13103@leland.Stanford.EDU>
 <1992Dec13.062959.14011@leland.Stanford.EDU>

In article <1992Dec13.062959.14011@leland.Stanford.EDU>,
urajan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Uday Rajan) says:
>
>In Pak innings, Akram hit 2 sixes in 36 off 15 balls. One was a straight hit
>off McDermott - a very long distance to the boundary. Rod Marsh called it
>one of the finest hits he's seen at Adelaide.
>
not surprising. akram is the biggest hitter i've had the good fortune to see
(and that includes the great viv). he seems to casually lift the ball and the
next thing you know, the ball is well into the stands-- he doesn't seem to
use much power, just impeccable timing, i guess. i remember him murdering
chetan sharma for 4 sixes in 5 balls about 5 years ago. absolutely effortless.

Stay cool,
Spaceman Spiff

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From: rpsingh@uwovax.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: Score Update
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:26:06 GMT

In article <009651E1.382D9040@vms.csd.mu.edu>, 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
> Hi there
> Got this from finger
> India 140 for 3 in 41 overs.
> Azza and Tendu batting.
> Pretty slow rate. Manoj batterd well for 36
Source plan file of Pieter's :
India finished up at 207 for 4 in their 50 overs.
The last few overs were quite rewarding for India. In the last five overs
they made about 50 runs with Mcmillan giving 20(2), Donald 14(2) and Dvillers
7(1) overs. Ashar remained unbeaten with 86(106) and Ravi 21(18). It's not a
bad score to defend provided Kapil is fit and they don't slack in the middle
of the innings. Overall a good match to follow.
Ravi. -- 

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From: arbi@paul.polymer.uakron.edu (The Dude)
Subject: Re: AERODYNAMICS OF THE CRICKET BALL - scientific
Organization: The University of Akron, Akron, Ohio
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:47:11 GMT

In article <1gotmeINNp9k@csc2.anu.edu.au>, ajc900@anusf.anu.edu.au (Andrew J Cleary) writes:
|> 
|> A good try (this is also logic used to explain why baseballs are not hit
|> as far on humid days, but it fails there too), but there is a problem with
|> your water analogy. Yes, *water* is much denser than air, humid or not, and
|> balls thrown underwater do some strange things. However, water is denser than
|> air because it is a *liquid* as opposed to a *gas*. Intuitively we usually
|> think that humid air is denser than non-humid air. However, recall from
|> our school days that a molecule of a gas takes up the same amount of space
|> no matter what the molecular weight is; and that the molecular weight of
|> H20 is 18, while that of Oxygen is 32, and we conclude that humid air is
|> most likely *less* dense than nonhumid air. Of course it's not quite that
|> simple (there are other gases in the air of course (nitrogen mainly)), but
|> you see what I mean.
|> 
|> Nonetheless, your point about the retardation of the linear motion bears
|> thought, especially in combination with my comment about baseballs above.
|> Another interesting point (and somewhat of a counterpoint to what I said
|> above): on a humid day, is there just more H20 gas around, or are there
|> actually microscopic *water* droplets floating in the air? If the latter,
|> then your argument sounds much better. Perhaps some meteorologist can
|> fill us in.

plllllllease! i need an umbrella and SOMEBODY - hey, turn that
ceiling fan OFF!

i dunno' which school you went to, but i'm sure you weren't taught
to think straight.

|> Andrew J. Cleary
|> Centre for Information Science Research
             ^
	      "Fundamental" i hope!!!

|> Australian National University
|> acleary@thrain.anu.edu.au

now, could you please tell me what in the hell humidity is? they didn't
teach me ANY damn THING. and oh! could you also get me density data?

peace an' luv,
arbi
From: pvr@argo.rice.edu (PVR Narasimha Rao)
Subject: Re: Comments: Ind vs RSA: ODI-3
Organization: Rice University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:03:40 GMT


In article <Bz7pnq.IvA@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, bharat@cs.uiuc.edu (R. Bharat Rao) writes:
|> pvr@argo.rice.edu (PVR Narasimha Rao) writes:

|> Yup -- it sure seems fair to compare the two.  Never mind that it was
|> on totally different pitches.  more importantly, the first ODI was a

|> comparatively low scoring affair where the batsmen struggled.  If
|> memory serves me right the WCup game was a 30 over slugfest (on a
|> small ground?) where RSA hammered every Indian bowler.


Well, sure I agree that one truncated ODI (ODI itself is a truncaetd
game of cricket) is not enough to judge someone (that was why I gave
the _average_ stats of Raju in Aus - both WSC and WC put together).
However, in that particular WC match, though every Indian bowler was
"hammered", Raju was the _most_ hammered. While Raju's stats were
6-0-43-0, SRT's (for example) were 6-0-20-0.


|> Any way, my desire to switch the two (and yes Raju in place of Kumble
|> and not Srinath -- in RSA one front line spinner and 3 pacies is the
|> right mix, IMO) was simply that while Kumble has been decent in the
|> ODIs, his performance has not been sterling to the point that he is
|> assured of his place in all 7 ODIs.


And, what has Raju done to come back into the team? Unless Kumble does
poorly in 2-3 matches, I don't think he'll come back. I'm just talking
about _my feeling_ just as you are doing.


|> >Bharat, did Raju give you his ball with his signature on it or what? :-)
|> 
|> Incidentally, PVR it just may, just may possibly be the case that
|> every Tom, Dick, and Rao who disagrees slightly with your exalted
|> opinions about Kumble (and SRT), does not have an axe to grind, or
|> some hidden agenda. 
|> 
|> The world would be tremendously boring if everyone agreed 100%, and it
|> may once in a very rare while be the case that someone who disagrees
|> with you about some trifling matter may have some reasons (perhaps
|> poor reasons, but reasons nevertheless) that have nothing to do with
|> unprofessionalism, parochialism, etc.


I was just jocularly referring to your statement earlier that Azhar gave
you his bat with his signature on it. I didn't mean to attribute any
"axe to grind, or some hidden agenda" to you. It wasn't meant to be
taken so seriously. If you took it as a "churlish, childish, and rude"
dismissal of your faith in Raju, I am sorry. Perhaps, I should've put
more smileys there.


|> Bharat

PVR
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From: tripunit@algol.cs.psu.edu (Mahesh V Tripunitara)
Subject: Re: Donald, Kapil and South Africa
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:47:27 GMT

In article <00965147.97A502A0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:

>Kapil is said to have become more professional after studying Richard Hadlee's
>professional approach. But Kapil's desire to overtake Hadlee's record is no

Kapil Dev for captain! 1993-94.

Mahesh.
From: bsridhar@acsu.buffalo.edu (Sridhar B)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: finger from ksrao
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:11:41 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo
Originator: bsridhar@mordred.eng.buffalo.edu


Use the third address
i.e "finger sankara@plains.nodak.edu"

The others don't seem to work.

Sridhar
From: KSRAO@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: score WI/Pak
Date: 16 Dec 1992 23:50:04 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Apologies, the running score of the 5th ODI has disappeared.

SA beat India by eight wickets with 16 balls to spare. Hudson was 108 not out.



South Africa vs India, 4th D/N, Wanderers, Johannesburg, 13/12/92
SA win by 6 wickets with 10 balls remaining. Man of the match Jonty Rhodes.

Wessels won the toss, India batting.
Kapil has been injured slightly when batting. He is bowling from a
shortened run since his 7th over. He left the field after 9 overs.
Callaghan run out by the smallest margin ever. His bat was less than
an inch out when Jadeja broke the wickets with a direct throw

         South Africa                          India                 
Hudson c Azhar b Kumble     22 (56) | Jadeja    lbw Callaghan         18 (60)
Wessels c Jadeja b Srinath  45 (96) | Raman     b Donald               0 (16)
Kirsten lbw Srinath         21 (48) | Amre      lbw Donald             2 ( 9)
Rhodes                      42 (56) | Azhar     c Richardsn b Matthews 49 (84)
Callaghan run out Jadeja    12 (27) | Tendulkar c McMillan b Donald    21 (44)
Cronje                      11 ( 8) | Kapil     c Richardsn b Matthews 18 (25)
McMillan                            | Shastri   c McMillan b DeVillier 17 (32)
Richardson                          | Srinath   c Rhodes b McMillan     3 ( 5)
Matthews                            | More      run out Rhodes          2 ( 7)
Donald                              | Prabhakar not out                 5 ( 9)
DeVilliers                          | Kumble    not out                 7 (13)
Extras  N:1 W:2 B:  LB:9    12      | Extras    N:2  W:11 B:  LB:6     19
Total   W:3 RR:            156      | Total     W:9 RR:               161
Overs: 48.2                         | Overs:    50
              O  M  R Wi Nb Wd      |            O  M  R Wi Nb Wd
Kapil         9  0 23  0  0  0      | Donald     10 0 27  3  0  5
Prabhakar     8  0 24  0  0  1      | DeVilliers 10 2 24  1  0  1
Kumble        9  1 33  1  0  0      | Matthews   10 0 33  2  2  1
Srinath     9.2  1 39  2  1  1      | McMillan   10 0 39  1  0  4 
Tendulkar     3  1  4  0  0  0      | Cronje      5 0 15  0  0  0
Shastri      10  1 33  0  0  0      | Callaghan   5 0 17  1  0  0

From: nitin@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Nitin Bhave)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:44:07 GMT
Subject: Re: Donald, Kapil and South Africa
Organization: HP Scientific Instruments Division - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket

> Kapil's favorite slogan these days is said to be "Watan Ke
> liye"(for the country), after someone used the expression to describe the
> Pakistani players while the Indian players played "Apan ke liye"(bumbayya for
> "for oneself").

I think he's referring to the conversation between Raj Singh Dungarpur and
Waqar. The approximate time frame is when Waqar was recovering from his back
injury.  As I recall reading from TOI (Bombay), the conversation went on
(vaguely) along the lines ..
Raj Singh : How's your back ?
Waqar : Mahenat to kar raha hun  (I'am working on it ).
Raj Singh : Sambhal ke Karna ( Do it carefully ).
Waqar: Watan ke liye Karna hoga ( Will have to do it for the country (?) ).


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From: yelton@uful14.phys.ufl.edu (John M. Yelton)
Subject: Re: last over thrills
Organization: University of Florida, Gainesville
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 21:43:39 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.034039.1647@news.uakron.edu> murali@emily.polymer.uakron.edu (Murali Cotah) writes:
>Keywords: 
>
>>one instance i remember is alan lamb scoring 18 runs in the last over to win
>S.R.Raza
>>
>Alan Lamb beat  Bruce Reid to "death" - in one of the ODIs against Aus. I thought it was more like 23 to win in the last over. I am sure there are people out there who can accurately describe that match with stats. (hint: please do) But it did not finish with a six .
>cotah
My memory is that is was 18 to win off the last over, and was obtained by
24624 with a ball to spare. Several things were noteworthy. Lamb had been in 
for a long time and had had trouble getting into top gear - he just couldn't
middle anything. In fact he went into the last over with no boundaries yet.
He played most balls by stepping away towards square leg to give himself
room. His first 4 wasn't middled, but he took such a wild swing at it, and by
chance it went between 2 fielders to the boundary. The 6, however was hsit
with full force. The next ball was critical. Lamb hit it well, but with a
deep field he got one, and turned to find the fielder about to throw and had
to give up on the second. Unfortunately for Australia, the fielder threw it 
in hard anyway - to the bowler's end where Reid (who was looking very
upset with what was happening) made a poor attemt at stopping it and it
went for an overthrow. If that overthrow had not happend it would
have meant 5 for victory with a tail-ender who had just come in, to face.
As it was it was 4 for victory off 2 balls with Lamb to face. No problem, the
next was struck perfectly and England won.
All from memory of course....
John Yelton
From: sl9z5@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: "Can we count the chickens yet"
Date: 18 Dec 92 09:02:29 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

Hai,
	The trend is pretty clear. This is the way Pakistan have been
succesful in every tournament in the past five years. First they lose 
matches(by a mile: the term no longer suitable for the Windies)
by putting up the most shoddy performance ever possible(remember
WI beat them in the WC by 10 wkts). Then they get a real slice of dame luck
(vs Eng.in the WC and several other Sharjah cups). But you have got to
give them the credit for capitalising on the one lucky break they get.
They then put up the best show(lot of grit , I suppose). 

	Hmmm, coming to this tournament, only the first part has been
clearly defined. Where is the slice of luck going to come for the
Pakistan team to then come back into the game?

Murali Seetharaman,
Utah State Uty.,
Logan UT-84322.

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From: jogi@austin.ibm.com (Vijay Joglekar)
Subject: India should give up Was: India lost to ....
Originator: vijay@vijay.austin.ibm.com
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:04:39 GMT
Reply-To: vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM (Aix Tools Development)



As I had said earlier, India should give up...

Vijay
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                      to do with where I work.
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From: vaghela@laxatv.reo.dec.com (Umesh Vaghela)
Subject: Probably some bad news....160/4 shastri in
Reply-To: vaghela@laxatv.reo.dec.com (Umesh Vaghela)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:27:41 GMT



India 160/4 after 45 overs
tendulkar out for 32
Azhar 58no
and Shastri has come before Kapil.
hope he scores some fast runs.


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From: farrell@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au (John Farrell)
Subject: Re: Gamesmanship
Organization: James Cook University
Date: 14 Dec 92 06:36:02 GMT

In <1992Dec10.195404.7951@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> ramakris@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Balaji Ramakrishnan) writes:
>I would urge the bowlers all over the world to run a batsman out if he steps
>out of his crease and not bother about some stupid traditions.   

  I would like to congratulate the Pakistani (Asif?) who declined to dismiss
Dean Jones in this way in yesterday's match.

Friendless
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From: karnik@cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik)
Subject: Re: Comments: Ind vs RSA: ODI-3
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 17:05:47 GMT

In <1992Dec13.023304.17269@news.acns.nwu.edu> sidi@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Sadiq Yusuf) writes:

>In article <Bz619n.63E@cs.uiuc.edu> bharat@cs.uiuc.edu writes:
>P.S. I thought I was the #1 Azhar fan on the net, but that position has
>been usurped  I see :-) Well, #2 Azhar fan then ! And I have dibs on the #1
>Amre fan position, as well as Ankola for the future. And I guess I'd better
>book Amol Muzumdar and Manoj Joglekar before someone else does :-) :-) 

	Heyyyy! Leave some for me, maaan :-> Let's see... I'll give you 
Bahutule if you give me Joglekar, and Paranjpe's all mine :-> So is Abey
Kuruvilla, for that matter :->

	And yeah, as someone suggested, BRING BACK GAVASKAR!!


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From: karnik@cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik)
Subject: Dougie's at work again!
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:44:25 GMT


	Dr. K.S.Rao is using Dougie to provide a 'live' scoreboard for the
Pakistan - West Indies game which has just started. To get the latest score,
use:

	finger srao@plains.nodak.edu


	If you have 'dougie', you too can get the live updates by running:

	dougie plains.nodak.edu 1725


	If any of you want to volunteer to put the latest score into your 
.plan files, run:

	dougie plains.nodak.edu 1725 -plan

and post a message on r.s.c. mentioning your address at which you can be
'fingered'. This will help reduce the 'finger' traffic at Dr.Rao's machine.
BTW, I'm running 'dougie' too, for some more time, but not much. Till then,
you can use:

	finger karnik@myria.cs.umn.edu

to get the latest score.

P.S. This message posted at 9:50pm CST (US).


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From: charan@crchh448.BNR.CA (Cliff Shivcharan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: World Champions???
Date: 18 Dec 92 15:46:33 GMT
Reply-To: charan@crchh448.BNR.CA (Cliff Shivcharan)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <92352.165939U17868@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U17868@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
|>The reason why Pakistan's performance is bad in ODI's is that they
played the O
|>DI's mostly in Australia and England. The conditions in AUstralia and
England a
|>re very different from Pakistan or India or Sharjah. The reason why
the perform
|>ance of AUstralia is good is because they play more matches at home
then away.
|>Look at the statistics of Pakistan's one day record in Pakistan,
India, Sharjah
|>(since all three countries have almost same condtions) and you will
find out mo
|>re. I don't know what the winning percentage of Australia is abroad, but I k
|>now that they lost the one day series against Sri Lanka. Does that
mean that Sr
|>i Lanka is better side than Australia? I doubt that.
|>
|>Cricket is played in many countries and one should not judge the
performance of
|> any team considering their performance in one or two countries.
|>Sikander Waheed
|>u17868@uicvm.cc.uic.edu
              
A TRUE WORLD Champion should be able to play the game ANYWHERE in the
WORLD (where cricket is played) and be effective. They may not win every
time but at least give a creditable performance.

The excuses advanced above for Pakistan's DISMAL showing is just that -
EXCUSES and LAME ones at that. They won the WC in Austrailia, REMEMBER??
What happened in the game 2 days ago was a TOTAL humiliation. Those of
us who follow WI cricket would have LAUGHED if we were told that SIMMONS
would have figures of 10 8 3 4 in an INTERNATIONAL OD game!!!

When Pakistan won their 1st game, they were TRUMPETED as the WORLD
CHAMPS and there was talk of THE GREATEST BATSMAN WHO WALKED THE EARTH!!
What is THIS "GREATEST" batsman's record against the WI?

Just goes to show that ONE SWALLOW DO NOT MAKE A SUMMER. Also CRICKET
is a game of GLORIOUS UNCERTAINTIES!!!!

Regards,
Cliff.
From: abdul@castle.ed.ac.uk (A Majothi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Testing
Summary: Test
Keywords: Test
Date: 15 Dec 92 14:38:14 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Edinburgh University

This is a test ... please ignore

Wizard
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: anant@evax11.eng.fsu.edu
Subject: score card request
Organization: Famu/Fsu College of Engineering
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:27:20 EST

Can any body post the complete score card of 3 rd 
ODI between India and SA please?
Thanks in advance
Ananth
From: kashif@ocf.berkeley.edu (Mohammad K. Qayyum)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Dougie
Date: 16 Dec 1992 03:57:37 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu


I was unable to compile the 'dougie' program
It seems like a most excellent idea, and so I would very
much appreciete it if someone could tell me if they have been able
to compile it. I am running BSD UNIX on an APPOLO ( from B.C. !)
It seems that neither the 386BSd option, nor the SunOs option works.
Anybody have any ideas? thanx

Salaam,

Kashif Q.