From: kumar@carleman.mit.edu (Kumar)
Subject: Re: U.S. Citizen NRIs Please leave India alone (Re: BJP)
Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 21:47:16 GMT

verma@pfeast.enet.dec.com (Virendra Verma) writes:
>
>	Let us prove it by restoring Indian values in modern India because
>	I can't bring the proof for the ancient achievments. We have tried
>	the western model for 45 years, let us try Indian model for just
>	10 years. See the difference. Don't be so intolerant if you are
>	a true knowledge seeker.

Actually there are hundred of other things BJP could be shouting about
if it was starting the HINDU system rather than temple building/mosque
breaking and being obssessed with 3-4 centuries of mughal rule. 

How about Dowry system or caste system for starters? I have never
heard of them taking to the caste issue or female infanticide issue
with any zeal. Perhaps they could have started by making an issue
of the dwory at every neighborhood during wedding ceremonies. how 
about putting pressure on the ultra sound - abortion clinics.
I have never heard them aggressively pursuing family planning
thing either. They could have started by first educating and then
chasing the prolific child producers such as Lalloo Prasad Yadav.
They never did it because they know that it will cost them votes.

BJP exists on anti-[non-hindu] platform and not on hindu identity
platform. If they existed on the basis of hindu identity platform
then they will not need to start breaking up mosques/temples
to get votes/assert their existence. 

Remember that tragedy of Pakistan is that it was created out of fear
of Hindus and so it still exists mainly because it has India to blame
for every excuse. If India dissolved so will Pakistan - the political
crisis in Pakistan's 50 years of existence has only shown that its
citizens did not know what do with a land once they had it. This
shows the blame the other guy is a very negative approach to nation
building.

In that folly lies a lesson for us - HINDUS SHOULD NOT EXIST
MERELY BY BEING AN ANTI_{NON-HINDU} FORCE and BJP EXISTS merely
by blaming the mughal rule and that is a shame. We should be
very cautious where these people will lead us because they
have major sense of self as ANTI-[NON_HINDU]. Their entire
propaganda machinary/action programmes show this.

Remember that if BJP comes to power on the back of saffron clad idiots
who chant rama nama but understand nothing of it then IT WILL HAVE TO
LISTEN TO THEM and that does not mean well for us either. It will
spend its major adminstrative energy on correcting these mosque-
temple interconversions!

If you are fighting negativism about India then better start by
the social reform not the religious bull shit. What do you
answer to the 60 minutes piece last sunday? I am glad that
they show this because is we spend ourselves on temple bull shit
then only foreigners can show us the major work to be done.


We did not try the western model for 45 years - we played the blame
and doubt game. The foremost part of western belief is to not take
more load that they can handle. Almost every major western country
even catholic Italy has remained far behind India in prolifically
producing children. The faith being that if God puts some one
on this earth then he will take care of him too [have heard countless
indians say that] is probably major problem with Hindu attitude - 
something BJP has done precious little to change.

enough said

-- 
Thanks

Sanjay