From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: more than 50% support TI
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 03:42:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.023816.17596@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>In article <C070nL.31n@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
>
>>   1. The conversation went on to the period when U.S. severed tie with
>>Taiwan. Qian Fu expressed that when Albanian had
>>a proposal in U.N. to give the China seat to PRC. Qian Fu went to Nixson for 
>>insurance that U.S. will not resist Albanian's proposal. He got the verbal
>>insurance. But finally U.S. did not use veto power to maitain Taiwan's seat.
>>Qian Fu went Nixson to ask why. Nixson said it was George Bush's(U.N
>>ambassador at the time) unauthorized personal decision, not the Nixson
>>administtration's decison. Qian Fu BElIEVED IT! Then Qian Fu continued taht
>
>Question: what is your evidence that Mr. Frederick Chien (that is his
>preferred name to be used in English) believed it?  And what is your evidence
>that Mr. Buckley even said it?  In any case, he wasn't even a high level
I watched the TV show. He was an ambassador, I belive.
>diplomat during the time of the Nixon administration.  (I hate to point out
>spelling errors, but your errors are getting your post to the point of being
When people did that, it tells me that they do not any thing else to argue
against me. I normally do not edit what I first typed for saving time. Do
apologize the inconvenence.
>unreadable.)
>
>>he latter on read a book wrotten by an U.S. official who served for Nixson 
>>which revealed that it was deliberate action to decieve Taiwan from U.S.
>>genuine
>>intension with regard to the voting. One the show Qian Fu expressed his
>>surprise and sadness. He is not a untrained layman, he had a Ph.D on America
>>study. how could a nation have those kind gullable people to be a foreign
>>minister, He is not qualified to be a diplomats. How it not let me think
>>some thing wrong with Taiwan's phylosophcal flow in dealing with international
>>issue, where vicious competetion grante any means for the interests of a
>>nation.
>
>Huh?  What is this supposed to mean?  Please write more clearly.  If he is
>surprised and shocked, how does that make him unable to be a diplomat?
   That is where the key is! He is too trusting to be a diplomat.
>
>>The show stuck in silence, three U.S. participantes seems embarrassed. Mr.
>>Buckley started to talk about Taiwan economic miracle, to turn the mode 
>>around. your foreign minister has not sensitivity in conversation. interrupted
>>Mr. Buckley, started talk about "hard woooooking". Then Mr.Buckley pointed
>>out U.S.'s help with this regard.Qian Fu had now response.
>
>Can someone translate this into more readable prose?  What is this supposed to
>mean?  "Your foreign minister has not sensitivity in conversation."  Hmmm.
                                   no
>This sounds like a suggestion that Chien and Buckley are sexually involved.
>:-)
>
>But let's say, for the moment, that you are right.  The Taiwanese government
>is greatly manipulated by Buckley and other American officials.  That still
>doesn't mean that the American government will back Taiwan during a military
That is only one of the evidence not all of them.
>confrontation.  You have come up with no, nil, zilch evidence to indicate that
>the Taiwanese government is backed militarily by the United States.  And you
>proceed to continue to say that if Beijing attacks Taiwan, it will be the
>"confrontation of the East and the West," since those Evil Western Imperialist
>Powers (tm) will be behind the Brainless Puppet-like Taiwanese Government (tm).
>
>Amazing.  Apparently, you are even more naive and/or stupid and/or unwilling
>to think than the Serbs under Slobodan Milosevic.
  Please do not bring the subject that you do not have a clue except
vormitting what West media told you.


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