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From: dae@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.a.elliott)
Subject: Re: RC/27 for CFs
Organization: AT&T
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 03:38:45 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.162854.2640@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.142636.14312@cbnews.cb.att.com> dae@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.a.elliott) writes:
- Talking about Brian McRae and Gary Thurman:
>>Actually, the two of them are pretty close in ability.  Thurman is a
>>slightly better hitter and base stealer, McRae is a better defensive player.

>If Thrman is a better base-stealer, he has a bizarre way of showing it; he's
>below .500 (5 for 11), whereas McRae is 10 for 14. As for baserunning, Mcrae
>was one of the best last year; he went 1st ot 3rd on 47% of outfield singles
>last year (league average wsa 35%) and scored from 2nd on 91% (league average
>was 73%). Thurman's average this year is right about where his career average 
>is, while McRae's is below.

As I said in the part you deleted, Thurman has a demonstrated track record
of being a superior base stealer.  He had 335 steals in the minors in 8 full
or partial seasons.  McRae had 151 in 6 full or partial seasons.  Thurman
was better last year (15/20) than McRae (20/31).  This year, Thurman has
been thrust into several obvious run situations.  It's tough to steal when
you can't pick your spots.

McRae is an aggressive base runner (much like his dad).  I've seen him play
lots of times, but he hasn't been on base much, so I don't have a lot of
personal observations to lend here.  The numbers you posted are pretty good,
though.

I'll agree that McRae has been the more productive major league player.  I
think that he's really not any better than Thurman, it's just that he has
had the chance to play, while Thurman has not.

I think debating over who is actually better between Thurman and McRae is
like arguing whether you'd rather be punched in the face or the stomach.
Neither one is a pleasant alternative.

>>The Royals have Kevin Koslofski in AAA, who only hit .350 in his brief
>>call-up recently.  I realize that players like him very rarely excel in
>>the majors (26 years old, and an 8 year minor league veteran), but I'd be
>>willing to bet my entire collection of George Brett baseball cards AND my
>>entire collection of Royals T-shirts that he could out-produce McRae by 75
>>points of OPS if given a chance.

>Koflofski has been at least as bad in the minors as McRae. With less power.

Well, you're pretty much right here.  Koslofski kicked around the low minors
for years without distinguishing himself.  The last two seasons he has been
outstanding, but often this is just a player peaking at a high minor league
level, and not really being good enough to play in the bigs.  Still, I have
been able to see him play, and I like him.  When you're 16 games out, I
don't see any reason to stick with non-performers and not give guys like
Koslofski a shot.  What do they have to lose?


Dave Elliott
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From: lavelle@aardvark.lerc.nasa.gov ()
Subject: Re: WHAT SHOULD THE DODGERS DO???
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:34:29 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.192113.26028@amgen.com> chriss@sam.amgen.com (Chris Silvester) writes:
>In article <182791@pyramid.pyramid.com>, stown@pyramid.COM (Scott Townsend) writes:
>> 
>> Another thing that I fel that the Dodgers need to do is to give Lasorda
>> another job in the organization and take him off the field as manager.
>
>I agree, but for different reasons.  I've never been that impressed with
>Lasorda as manager anyway.  IMHO, he is responsible for the current condition
>of Orel.  When Orel was hot back at the end of the '89 season, he really
>overused him.  It seemed like he was pitching some in every game.  And in the
>playoffs and World Series, that was definately the case.  No wonder Orel had 
>to have surgery!  Lasorda burned him out!  And as far as winning that Series,
>it was not the manegerial skill of Lasorda...He just got lucky...besides
>overusing Orel.
>
I am not a Dodger fan.  In fact being a Giants fan i HATE the dodgers
but i think that when Orel was pitching in '88 (not '89)  he was pitching
well, not letting men a lot of men on base.  Even though he pitched a
lot of innings i do not think his pitch count was that high.  As far as
Lasorda as a mananger i don't now enough to really say but you
cannot argue with the success he has had.  However, pitching to Clark in
'85 was stupid.


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From: dtate+@pitt.edu (David M Tate)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Braves lose - finally!
Date: 29 Jul 92 03:06:24 GMT
Organization: Factors of Ys, Inc.

In article <1992Jul29.005741.13685@news2.cis.umn.edu> kirsch@epx.cis.umn.edu (Dave Nobody Kirsch) writes:
>
>  Anyways, back to the matchup. I'm sitting there gritting my teeth, and as
>Belinda starts to deliver the pitch I shout, "Come on, Skippy!" Too late. I 
>tried to come back with an immediate "Stan! I mean Stan!", but it was too
>late. Lonnie Smith hits a fly to right that's reminiscent of Jim Sundberg vs.
>the Jays in '85. 

>  For those skeptics out there, the above is 100% true. 

You know what's even scarier?  I did exactly the same thing.  I mean, word
for word, right down to the "Stan!  I mean Stan!"  I couldn't believe it when
the ball came floating right into the wheelhouse and Smith performed aggravated
assault on it.  I mean, the *guilt*.

So now, at least, we can share the blame a bit.  

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From: djohnson@cayley.waterloo.edu (David Johnson)
Subject: Re: Value of Stats
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:51:19 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.195226.20565@terminator.cc.umich.edu> sweda@css.itd.umich.edu (Sean Sweda) writes:
>In article <Brr235.D8s@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> djohnson@cayley.waterloo.edu (David Johnson) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul21.160012.29170@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca> sinhaa@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Anand Sinha) writes:
>> 
>>>Hmm. Whom did the Jays have to play the OF to replace Bell? Syl Campusano? 
>>>Rob Ducey? Mookie Wilson? Let's face it, Bell was the 3rd best OF the Jays
>>>had in the organisation that could play at the Major League level. He knew it.
>>>And the Jays knew it.  Now, I don't know Dave Winfield's situation, but 
>>>didn't Dave demand to play in the OF 2-3 times during a week? Even though he
>>>rarely gets to a ball? No, Dave should not play the OF, not with his lack of
>>>mobility. It is not good for the team for Dave to play the OF. Yet he demanded
>>>that he play there.  Doesn't seem like he's in it for the best of the team.
>>
>>If you remember Mookie DH'd quite a bit that season and so by putting Mookie
>>in left you improve defense and the offense would remain the same.  Also
>             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Speaking as both a Mets fan and as a Mookie Wilson fan I can assure you
>that Mookie couldn't throw the ball through a wet paper towel.

True but he had speed and range which Bell didn't have at that time and Bell
had shoulder problems that year as well so he couldn't throw either.

>>it would have been nice to see Ducey get a chance to play because I think
>>that he could be better than average defensively and and OK offensive player.
>>
>
>Just one question:  Did you believe all that mediot blather about how
>Fred McGriff was a "choke" hitter in Toronto because his RBI totals were
>low?  If so then I can understand your how you got your opinion about 
>George Bell.

McGriff did hit 30+ HRs and never got over 90 RBI in Toronto so I can
see where *choke* came from.  I don't think that he was choke hitter
but I do remember him hitting a lot of solo HRs.  I think that it was
more that pitchers were pitching around him in key situations.

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From: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
Subject: Re: More quiz questions (WAS: Re: 1951 Baseball Encyclopedia)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:28:36 GMT

Distribution: usa

In article <1992Jul21.220045.23358@midway.uchicago.edu>  
dgh2@quads.uchicago.edu (Doug Huffer) writes:
 
> 1. How can a batter drive in 3 runs without hitting a fair ball? 

Bases loded, batter hits a foul and one of the defensive players throws his  
glove at the ball - 3 bases ?
     
> 2. Trick question. Bases loaded. Batter hits ball over centerfield fence, 
> yet not a man scores.  How?

Batter stepped out of the batters box?
 
> 3. What are the three "appeal" plays?    
runner leaving early from first, second and 3rd base? :-)
gee, I don't think swinging/not swinging was aan appeal play back then.
 
> 4. Another trick question: Who played most years in the majors, Rogers 
> Hornsby or Babe Ruth? 

Of the top of my head, I'd guess Hornsby, 'cuz he played lots of little  
seasons at the end of his career - but Ruth had those seasons as a 
pitcher at the beginning.... well, you did say it was a trick question, so  
I'll guess that they both played 22 years. 
 
> 5. Which players had the same last name as the city of their birth? 

Estel Crabtree, Slim Love? , several others whose names escape me.

john rickert
rickert@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
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From: niguma@ug.cs.dal.ca (Gordon Niguma)
Subject: Help! List of Free Agents
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:08:52 GMT

 Dear netters, 
  Could someone kindly E-mail me that listing of potential free agents at the
end of the year? I'm only really concerned about All-Stars coming from the
National League (Maddux, Barry Bonds, HoJo) so if you can think of other top 
notch NL players who become free agents at the end of the year (oh yeah forgot
Ozzie Smith and Andre Dawson) and you don't have the list, feel free to
E-mail me. This would be appreciated.

					Gord Niguma
					niguma@ug.cs.dal.ca
From: poutsmaj@mace.cc.purdue.edu (unknown)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Carry-isms (was Re: Shoot Harry)
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:23:19 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

My friend and I have always preferred Harry's "Hey Stoney, you know what that 
name is backwrds" for Oral Herschiser:

Leroy Research


paul
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From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Tom Kelly: Tiger Hater
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:10:17 GMT

In article <92202.144049DGS4@psuvm.psu.edu> <DGS4@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.155511.2436@island.COM>, fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
>says:
>>
>>In article <1992Jul15.194930.16617@Princeton.EDU> roger@phoenix.Princeton.EDU
>>(Roger Lustig) writes:
>>>In article <1992Jul15.171530.7554@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
>>writes:
>>>>>possible.  Different players have different skills, but that doesn't mean
>>we
>>>>>waive that overall goal.  Cecil Fielder is just plain not as valuable as
>>any
>>>>>player with significantly higher OBP and SLG.  What kinds of things are    h
>>wort
>>>>>anything, after all?  Getting on base, advancing runners, not making outs
>>in
>>>>Retitle this "How Baltimore got to be the best offensive team in the AL".   t
>>Mus
>>>>be Randy Milligan's invaluable contributions.
>>>>
>>>Um, since when is Balt the best offensive team?  And what does Milligan
>>>have to do with it?
>>
>>Don't they have the highest OBP in the league? (Yes). Slugging? (Yes). If
>>OBP and SLG make your team score better, then Baltimore MUST be the league's
>>best offensive team. And Milligan must a MAJOR factor in this, after all his
>>total OBP and SLG are higher than Cecil's.
>>
>>Mike
>
>The Orioles ARE one of the best offensive teams in the league, averaging about
>5 runs a game for much of the year, and only recently dropping down to about
>4.75 runs per game.  How do you think they are playing .570 ball, when four
>of their starters have ERAs greater than 4.00?  Randy Milligan is one of the
>most consistently underrated first baseman in the AL, and I thank God every
>day that the O's were unable to trade him this winter.  If I had to choose
>between Cecil and Moose, it isn't that hard.  I'd take Moose, since his
>stats, independent of what his teammates do, show him to be a better
>player.

So why don't they outscore Detroit and Minnesota, and why are they running
neck and neck with Toronto; they have higher OBP AND SLG than all of them?

Mike
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From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Value of Stats
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:48:54 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.045334.4526@cs.cornell.edu> tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes:
>In article <3814@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> rrmst3+@pitt.edu (Roberto R Molinari) writes:

>>Okay, so maybe the Bonds thing was a bad example, but what about my earlier
>>scenario where Frank Thomas breaks Jack McDowell's arm?  Youd didn't address
>>that one.

>When was the last time *any* player put a teammate on the DL?  (Not
>counting foul line drives...)  Admittedly Vaughn and Greenwell had a
>tussle last year, but that is a *very* isolated incident, and didn't
>really hurt either one.

It's rare, but it does happen. I believe Rick Cerone put one of his pitchers
on the DL in a clubhouse fight. Any other examples?

>>I'll admit that there probably isn't enough info on *every* player
>>to adjust his stats for attitude, but if there is a case where there is
>>sufficient information to make the adjustment, then I don't see how you
>>can simply choose to ignore it and claim that you accurately can access a
>>player's worth to his team.

>When Frank Thomas goes on a rampage, slaughtering Ventura,
>Bell, and McDowell, *then* will I admit that his attitude is hurting
>the team.

>I'm prepared to wait on this one...

Probably happen right after the Cubs/Red Sox World Series.

Mike
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From: ocf.berkeley.edu!hankwong@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Tommy Greene
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:39:00 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
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Can anybody provide an updated injury report on Phillies pitcher Tommy Greene
(is he on rehab yet, when is he expected back, etc.)

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


-hankwong
From: rbrbrn@meteor.wisc.edu (Rob Holmes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Dome plays foul on Jack Clark :-):-):-)
Date: 21 Jul 92 12:52:00 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Meteorology and Space Science

In article <19223@plains.NoDak.edu> sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan ) writes:
>Boston DH, Jack Clark had a very bad taste of the Metrodome
>in the top of the 9th. With 1 out and runners in the corners,
>Jack Clark was at the plate. On a 3-2 count from Agiluera,
>Clark popped it to the seats at the 3rd base side. However,
>to the chagrin of Clark, the ball hit a speaker and deflected
>inside the park and 3rd baseman Reboulet made  catch.
>Clark threw up his bat and his helmet in total disgust. 
>Did anybody else watched this....
>
>S.H
>Win or lose; Twins forever...

I saw it and I loved it....basically because Mr. Clark is such a weenie.
This is, though, one of the drawbacks of a dome.  But for a northern city like
MSP, I think it's just the thing.  It can get pretty chilly there in April and
September!  And I hate rainouts!  Or worse, games where it rains the time but
the game never gets called.

THE ROBBER BARON
From: dtate+@pitt.edu (David M Tate)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: ease of RBI (was: Re: RP/PA for AL and NL (More bogus RP stats))
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:47:07 GMT
Organization: Factors of Ys, Inc.

In article <1992Jul23.195215.21948@cs.rose-hulman.edu> rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert) writes:
>
>Sorry. I didn't make myself at all clear here.

>RBI% for runner on 3b with <2 outs is greater than
>RBI% for runner on 3b with 2 outs.

>RBI% for runners on 2b with <2 outs is less than
>RBI% for runners on 2b with 2 outs.

I'm afraid this looks backwards to me, too.

Why would the conversion rate go *up* with 2 outs?  Everything that works 
with 2 outs still works with < 2 outs, plus various strange events like fly
balls where the outfielder throws it away after making the catch...

Was this difference significant for the number of occasions each situation
arose?


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From: steinman@me.utoronto.ca (David Steinman)
Subject: Re: Wow, Cito changes the Jays' lineup!
Organization: UofT Mechanical Engineering
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 23:25:09 GMT

cjlee@laplace.waterloo.edu (Ironman) writes:

>Who says Cito doesn't change his lineup.  Check out the starting lineup
>for July 26, 1992:

>1.	ALOMAR		2B	<- Finally!  Alomar bats leadoff!
>2.	GRIFFIN		SS	<- Lee would have been a better choice
>3.	CARTER		1B	<- Hey, Carter is playing first base!!!
>4.	WINFIELD	DH	<- no change, good.
>5.	MALDONADO	LF	<- good
>6.	GRUBER		3B	<- batting .230, 8HR... (a strike-out man)
>7.	BORDERS		C	<- ok... batting .240, 9HR...
>8.	BELL		CF	<- Finally gets some playing time
>9.	DUCEY		RF	<- He should play 1B while Carter should
>				   remain in RF...  ah well..

>If anyone recalls, this is almost like my "dream" lineup.  hehehe...
>Does Cito read this newsgroup?

Yeah, some lineup.  Really produced those runs...
--
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From: millerm@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Mikemoe)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: ** WIFFLEBALL **
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:46:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: oakhill.1992Jul31.144641.28872
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas

Thought we used this rule during fastpitch against the wall,
I suppose it could be used in wiffleball.

If there were a running on 1st, and you field a clean ball,
then the pitcher (assuming 1-on-1) throws a strike for
a double play...it must be a quick throw, however.

Mike

millerm@oakhill.sps.mot.com
From: piz@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (G G ZIPFEL)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Pitching changes: Managerial rules?
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:48:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsl.1992Jul29.204846.14641
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T


	I'm wondering if certain managers (or organizations for that
	matter) have ever looked into setting strict rules for
	pitching changes. It seems that it's common knowledge (on the
	net) that pitchers who pitch too many pitches per game develope
	arm trouble. Wouldn't it be sensible to set a limit of, oh say,
	90 pitches that could not be exceeded under any circumstances?
	It couldn't hurt the team becasue a pitcher who's thrown 90
	pitches is almost certain to be a little tired, and shouldn't be 
	as effective as a pitcher who's fresh. I can see situations
	where this rule might not be in the best interests of the team
	*in the short term*, but it would almost always be the best
	course of action for long term considerations.

	Perhaps a pitch limit should be set for every pitcher?

	This certainly seems like a concept that should be used
	in the minors, where the goal is mostly to find future
	stars. 

	
	
	

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From: niccum@cs.umn.edu (Tom Niccum)
Subject: Re: All 6th-best team
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:46:24 GMT

In <3848@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> dtate+@pitt.edu (David M Tate) writes:
>	1B	Kent Hrbek		Twins
>All in all, not a bad team.  Better than I thought when I started this
>article.  A few irrational protection decisions (or a 10/5 rule) and you
>could do even better.  Interesting, isn't it?

Sorry, but Kent "Buy a Vowel" Hrbek is a 10/5 man.


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>   dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu   |  Whereunder crawling coop'd we field and bat,
>   Edward "Mike" Fitzgerald  |     Lift not your eyes to *it* for help--for it
>     from "The Ruthaiyat"    |  Will drop the tow'ring fly upon your hat."

-Tom

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From: savoy@hg.uleth.ca (Jim Savoy)
Subject: Re: Best Looking Swing
Reply-To: savoy@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 07:36:18 GMT


>><ALWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:

>>    When I watch a good hitter at the plate, they will show the swing of the
>>  hitter in slow motion. IMHO the best looking swings I've seen are:
>>        1) Dave Justice
>>        2) Will Clark
>>        3) Don Mattingly
>>        4) George Brett

I'm several thousand transactions behind, so my post will probably be redundant
by the time it's entered, but two of the nicest swings I've noticed lately from
relative newcomers are from Luis Gonzalez and Greg Colbrunn (Colbrunn, if you
like viscious uppercut swings - I know I do!). And John Olerud obviously has
a great line-drive swing, too.


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From: Don Soucy <AB47@UNB.CA>
Subject: Re: Info needed
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:07:26 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.184724.29661@leland.Stanford.EDU> claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>In article <1992Jul28.173135.26150@encore.com> dtodd@wizard.encore.com (Donald Todd) writes:
>>
>>                           We were wondering if there were any Oriental
>>players in MLB.
>>  [stuff deleted]

> There
>is no Asian-born or Asian-blooded player in MLB right now.  Last year, there
>was Don Wakamatsu (Chicago White Sox), who was traded in the offseason to
>Los Angeles, and has yet to resurface.  Atlee Hammaker is half-Japanese.
>Ron Darling is 1/4-Chinese.
>
>.I'm quite sure Don Wakamatsu is from Hawaii.  He went into a terrible
>.batting slump  in the second half of last season and showed few signs
  of recovery by the time Triple A folded in the fall.  So he may not
  resurface.

Don Soucy


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