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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:40:12 MST
From:         cinnamon girl <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      Re: noise reduction

Gary sed:

>Which is exactly why I said NO dolby at the beginning. But, hey, like I
>said, I'll experiment recording some stuphph with Dolby B. If that sounds
>shitty, I won't use it. Period. If the dubbers wish, they may experiment
>also.

Oh goodie... I like to experiment.  Maybe I'll throw in some new-age nipple
sucking noises inbetween tracks -- something like wojie did with firesign
theatre on the last compilation. ;)

>Let's talk about something else.... Carol, gotten laid lately?   ;^)

No... shit, could you tell? The hockey player had a tourney on the weekend --
he had to "save his legs" for that...  But I do owe his frog something -- I
said I'd kiss that frog if he scored a hat-trick at any game which I attended.
I watched him play the first game of the tourney and he scored 4 goals.  :-/
Bummer....  ;)

My advice to you, Gary is.... don't marry a hockey player.  :)  Volleyball
players are cool, though...  :)

OMC:  Currently in my walk-wymin, Judas and Natasha (why do I always picture
      Rocky and Bullwinkle's dynamic duo, Boris and Natasha?).  I'm suddenly
      overwhelmed with the urge to throw my boss out my 4th floor window and
      I suspect that Michael has thrown in some subliminal messages
      in there somewhere.   :)

Schlong,
Carol
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:46:40 +0000
From:         "Out,
              out - you'll not feel the fall-out..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      Sorry, can't resist...

>Date: 07 Jan 1993 09:29:15 -0800 (PST)
>From: Mike <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
>Subject: RE: Free country?? I'd beg to differ...

I know this comes late, but forgive me -- I have these 600+ ALLMUSIC messages
to go through...

>what instrument is the STRANGEST instrument you have ever heard
>in a song, and which song was it featured in?

        A chicken, in "Psycho Chicken", a parody of "Psycho Killer" (Talking
Heads) featured by can't-remember-who.

>what is the most bizarre instrument you have ever heard play music?
>(the one that make you say, "what the hell is that contraption?")
>Please describe the instrument in detail, if you can.  I may plan to
>build one.  ;)

        Same. It's rather small, and the form is more or less that of a
small goose, only it is a bit more sharp at the end. You can produce
weird sound by bending and squeezing the neck, only you have to be care-
ful not to damage it completely -- also because it is usually unfixable.
Cheap models are usually white, more elaborate types are multicoloured,
usually brownish anyway. And there are several sizes, too... :) :)

        More seriously, Mike: the weird object made with spring coil you
showed me in San Francisco was just great. What was the name? I'd like to
build one for myself too...

        Ciao, Marco

P.S.: now that I remember -- funniest thing happened with Masuda-man that
      evening: I was strumming his Stratocaster, and I showed him a weird alter-
      nate tuning. He decided it was interesting, and wanted to remember it.
      Now, the guitar was connected to a small battery amp, a few feet away
      from us. Mike quickly grabbed a small tape recorder in his bag and
      asked me to play one string at a time, which I did very carefully and
      letting ring. In the meantime Mike was taping the tuning... but none
      realised he was picking the strings, not the amp!!! As soon as I had
      finished we looked at each other, the light came in our mind and we
      both started laughing rather histerically. Needless to say, the sample
      was repeated, with the microphone pointed to the amp this time...

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olivotto@itnvax.cineca.it                                 OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:43:09 MST
From:         cinnamon girl <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      Re: Richard Thompson

Mike McGuire asks about Richard and Linda Thompson albums...

Out of the 4 that I own, I'd recommend then, in the following order:

1. Pour Down Like Silver (if just for "Night Comes In")

2. I Wanna See the Bright Lights Tonight

3. Shoot Out the Lights

4. First Light

Incredibly busy and incredibly stressed out, and needing incredible sex,
Carol
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Ilia writes:
>           Well, I've always been fascinated by the folks who say "I am
>very open-minded. I like everything". Maybe I don't understand
>something, but a big fan of Sinatra who likes Pink Floyd? Unless you
>don't take seriously either one, it's beyond me how you can combine such
>fondness. As for the album collection... I was at MHB's house ten days
>ago... don't think you can surprise me with anything... unique...

No, wait a minute....I have pretty diverse tastes - although I certainly
don't claim to like everything. I liked the Floyd you sent me very much,
though I don't think I'd recommend a double-bill concert with any of the a
cappella groups I sent you. Similarly, my love for Benamin Britten's choral
cantatas probably doesn't seem to jibe with the Dream Theater CD I just
bought....While I profess a strong dislike of Rap and "twangy country", I
consider myself a woman of varied musical tastes. And I definitely take it
all seriously.....

Marsha

Marsha J. Ferziger
University of Chicago School of Law
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:16:51 -0500
From:         "Gary M. Gettier" <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: noise reduction
              at Jan 25, 93 03:52:54 pm

> Nah.... bob is just being cranky and bob just needs to get laid. ;*)  I say
> reduce the noise about noise reduction and just be happy with what we get --
> which is a nice 3-tape compilation of some really cool music to peruse.  If
> noise reduction is a big issue with any one tune, then go out and buy the damn
> CD and get optimum sound.  Us dubbers have neither the time nor the
 inclination
> to argue about this.  This is really turning out to be more difficult than it
> needs to be...

Which is exactly why I said NO dolby at the beginning. But, hey, like I
said, I'll experiment recording some stuphph with Dolby B. If that sounds
shitty, I won't use it. Period. If the dubbers wish, they may experiment
also.

Let's talk about something else.... Carol, gotten laid lately?   ;^)

Seeya,
Gary
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:37:00 -0800
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>Who's your favorite songwriters (have we covered this yet, probally so)

Elvis Costello.
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 10:51:27 EST
From:         Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Who Done it..?

>Crossing the highway, late last night
>shoulda looked left, shoulda looked right
>didn't see the station-wagon car
>skunk got squashed, and there you are
>....etc
>
>Who did it and what was it called, I saw a CD by this fellow yesterday and
>that made me recall this song. BTW Richard Thompson plays on the CD...L.W.

I think that might have been Loudon Wainright III from
"Attempted Mustache" but I'm not certain.  I know I'll
get corrected if I'm wrong.

                           -Tim
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 07:50:42 CST
From:         Leonard Watkins <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      TV Bands

Watching Andy Griffith (alltime favorite) and the Darlings were on there
playing and singing. I started thinking (that's twice in 1 week) i believe
the Darling's were probally the best TV band, are there any others you
can think of...........L.W.
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 10:38:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      desert island label

Tom Buck writes....

>Maybe the question might best be put this way: If you were stranded alone on
>an island, and you could have the complete catalog of only one record company,
>which one would it be and why?  :-)

I'd have to go with Brain as they had some of the best German bands.  I'd
miss Tangerine Dream, but there'd be plenty of Klaus Schulze as compensation.

On the other hand, I might chose Ohr, just to pick up the ones I'm
missing. 8-)

I would have said TNR, but to date their output is a bit small to be my
only music source. 8-)

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 16:56:41 EST
From:         Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Speaking of A Cappella...

Well, actually, I'm not really speaking of a cappella,
but something close.

I heard this song at a brown xmas a cappella concert
back in december (an uneven concert interrupted
occasionally by the worst organ player ever to
have lived).  it was performed to the accompaniement
of bongoes and guitar, and it was definitely not
a christmas song.  I thought it might have been
some ridiculous number they made up, just to irk
the concert organizers (since it was an a cappella
christmas concert, and they were neither a cappella
nor christmas related - those crazy undergrads, what
will they think of next!) but...I heard the song
yesterday coming out of piped in background music
at the local wendy's.  (okay, I ordered a fast food
hamburger, and I tasted it, but I didn't like it and
I didn't ingest.)  now, sometimes they pipe in the
local pop dance music station, and sometimes the
local acne-metal station, and sometimes the oldies
station, and sometimes some other stations, so I
don't really know who was playing it, but they
played the same song that this oh so clever
a cappella prankster group at brown did.  so it is
apparently a real song.  real enough to get airplay,
even.

your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to
put on your musical thinking cap, and tell me what
the name of the song is, who wrote or performed it,
and what the hell it means.

but I'll give you a few more hints.  the recurring theme
was something about "one day all seven will die" and
something about a "savoir faire" and "all space and time"

John Mc?  The answer man?  Can you help?

anybody?

                       -Tim
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:15:00 N
From:         "Out,
              out - you'll not feel the fall-out..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      Lady Madonna, Italy at your breast...

Some news from Italy you may want to laugh at.

        Madonna is supposed to appear on a TV show on Saturday evening. She'll
give a 10-minute interview about her last movie, which is going to be released
here tomorrow, I believe.
        So far, no problem. The nice thing of all this is that a guy, who is
very well know to be a Catholic extremist, hit the first line on several news-
papers after writing to the TV directors and, guess who, the President of Italy
that "Madonna must be stopped and arrested as a criminal". Of course the press
gave an enormous amount of air to this news, and the guy has become a sort of
hero (or anti-hero, depends on the side you look at it; to me, he's just a
poor moron :)...).
        As you see, not only occasionally Italy can regurgitate with fake mora-
lism (not that I support Madonna in any sense, and those who were at the All-
music reunion last Saturday know my ideas about "Sex", which I've been able to
carefully go through in San Francisco), but, also, my country still seems to be
able to invent extremely funny ways to shake the idea of economical and politi-
cal crises off its back. The last time this happened was... huh, in the 60s
when Jagger was seen as Lucifer in person, I think...

        Ciao, Marco
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From:         LHARBIN <LHARBIN@UA1VM.BITNET>
Subject:      the The

The The is actually Matt Johnson's group. Johnny Marr joined him for the
Infected album. There other album is called Soul Mining. Matt Johnson did a
solo album entitled Burning Blue Soul several years ago; not released on CD in
this country. Johnson is great and having Marr along for the ride hasn't hurt.
Larry.
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:46:06 -0500
From:         "Gary M. Gettier" <gmg@ACCESS.DIGEX.COM>
Subject:      Dream Theater / Libby

>Dream Theater played Baltimore, MD in Decemeber.  They put on an amazing show
>Does anyone know anything about them or their origins?  Last year they put
>out only their second album, "Images and Words."
>        Andy
>        C.U.A.

Hey!!! another Baltimorian?!. Welcome dood! Where did DT play?
Was it Hammerjacks? As far as their origins go, maybe Marsha can help you,
she's friends with one of the guy's in DT's sister. Er...a...somthin' like
that.
WTF is C.U.A., btw?


Libby "I'll kiss that frog for a trick" Dubber sez:

>>Let's talk about something else.... Carol, gotten laid lately?   ;^)

>No... shit, could you tell? The hockey player had a tourney on the weekend --

>My advice to you, Gary is.... don't marry a hockey player.  :)  Volleyball
>players are cool, though...  :)

WTF?! How'd you know this?! My wife played volleyball, no shit.

OMC: I watched part of the American Music awards tonight. Hey, I was
     bored. Everything was going along kinda normal with these things:
     ya know, the hosts read from cue cards, lame performances, the crowd
     cheers anyway -> when low and behold -> Michael Jackson wins an
     award!! -> yippee! -> he comes out to accept the award -> MICHAEL
     JACKSON IS A WHITE MAN NOW!!!, actually he looks more like a white
     woman. WTF?! did I miss somethin'? Did he have some kind of operation?
     or does he wear a lot of make up? Cast a clue this way. Where's the
     jacksonmaniac from Canada when we need her? He is fuckin' weird lookin'!

     oops, as I type, I think I heard that Pearl Jam won Best New Artist or
     sumthin', damn atleast they got somethin' right, huh.

     Metallica was there too, they won an award too. I forget the category,
     but they were up against Def Leppard. Gawd these award shows are really
     the pitz. Jason Newstead shaved his head, damn is he one ugly mug!

Seeya,                                                   gmg@access.digex.com
Gary, trying to figure out what a new-age nipple
      sucking noise will sound like
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:12:38 -0500
From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: splinters from the edge

Tim the mysterious one writes:
>  "I laughed, I cried"
>
>                      -Tim's sensitive side, bursting out
>                       (anyone can have an evil twin, how
>                        many of y'all have sensitive new
>                        age guy twins?)
>
>omc:  disguised.

Ooooh! I think I got it! Let's see....

Who like to talk about their feelings....
Who's into crystals, into healing....
Who like to dress like Richard Simmons...
Who are hard to tell from women....
Who tape ...thirtysomething... on their VCR's
Who've got "Child on Board" stickers on their cars...

Did I get the OMC? Huh, Tim? Did I? Huh?

A Christine fan, or just like the song?

Marsha



Marsha J. Ferziger
University of Chicago School of Law
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:18:31 PST
From:         Mike <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Where have all the allmusicker gone?

I think there may be a bad connection, but I haven't gotten
any mail since 6pm.  Is there a lull or is there a system failure?

please talk, I'm getting lonely.... :(

Mike
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:17:20 CST
From:         Leonard Watkins <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Gabriel and MTV -- Len's question belatedly replied

On Fri, 22 Jan 1993 08:09:53 PDT David Malbuff said:
>
>I would nominate the Band's second album as a masterpiece, probably the
>best album in rock & roll history.

Would this be "The Big Pink" album..............L.W.
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 08:46:42 PST
From:         Mike McGuire <MIKEM@OAK.HIS.UCSF.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Richard & Linda

On Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:47:46 EST <WK7@CORNELLC> said:
>Mike: the only 2 albums I have are _Pour Down Like Silver_ and _Shoot
>Out The Lights_. My friend who lived in San Fran. for about 10 years
>taped them for me, so I don't have the liner notes or anything. But I
>agree mith Mr. Bloom that these 2 are very strangely melancholy, ethereal.
>Some of the songs Linda sings conjure up visions of someone languidly
>floating along, eating mushrooms, and playing with a stiletto for that
>'special someone' ;) I'm dying to hear more of their stuff - my buddy
>had quite a collection, as well as the Sandy Denny collection, which
>seemed to glow on the turntable as I listened in ecstasy. Good luck with
>the path - I've got to expand my collection.
>
>Also, I was immensely jealous hearing of you guys out in S.F. - it's my
>favorite city by far. I still have a couple college buddies there or in
>Oakland, but now that I've moved away from San Diego, it's tough to get
>back out - I think the last time was summer, '88. Anyway, bye - enjoy !
>
>                                                 ...Walt...

Thanks for the reply.  Hope you can get back some day.  Sounds like I
should pick up Shoot out the Lights too.  It's hard to find a better
place than the bay area,  but then again I am biased,  and I have been
pretty much all arounf the world.
Mike
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From:         "Wayde Nie, Eng.Phys. II" <9106857@SSCVAX.CIS.MCMASTER.CA>
Subject:      test

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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 10:35:21 CST
From:         Leonard Watkins <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: More catagorization horror stories
              28 Jan 1993 10:22:02 CST from <USTS060@RUST1.DPO.UAB.EDU>

On Thu, 28 Jan 1993 10:22:02 CST Dave said:
>
>    I'm gonna have to take issue with you on this one.  Have you
>every heard Willie Mae (Big Momma) Thorton?  Go ahead find her
>version of _Houndog_  then listen to Elvis.  I'm sorry, there is no
>comparison.  The white audience (the mass audience, the ones the
>record labels made music for) could not handle the raw energy of
>Black Music.  Chuck Berry, Little Richard and Fats Domino played weak
>versions of the blues music that was so popular among the black
>audience.
>    I find most early rock 'n' roll hard to listen to.  Especially in
>the wake of the real, hard core, gut wrenching music that was
>available at the same time.  Rock 'n' Roll was just baby pap, to
>pacify white, teenage audiences.


What in the world do you think all these groups we've been mentioning is.?
Pretty much everybody out there is for the the white teenage audience
except for Jazz, Blues, and classical. Almost all of it even the so called
Alternative is very, very weak compared to Big Mama , Robert Johnson, and
any of the early J, B , or C musicians. The only thing out with close the
energy and conviction (+ other adjectives) is Rap, sorry but i beleive
that to be true. The white audience cannot handle the rawness of the raw
rap....Sorry it just came out...........L.W.
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Subject:      Re: Take-home exam

Re:  Schnittke's comments about synthesis.
With all due respect to Schnittke, his speculations in regard
to future musical styles that will represent a syntheses of
"all the music one had heard since childhood" seem
problematic in at least two respects (besides the ones
suggested in the question):
1) musical synthesis that are actually equally balanced (or
close to it) in the degree to which they draw on different
styles have not always been too popular in the west.  This
has been particularly true in American popular music.  We are
willing to accept South African pop music in sofar as it
meshes sttylistically with characteristics that define pop to
us (the fact that it does is hardly unexpected given the
importance of the African American tradition as a source of
the rock tradition and the successful importation of western
musical style into Africa for more than a century), but when
a synthesis draws more equally from its source
material, e.g., George Harrison's 1960s experiments with
Indian flavored western pop, we tend to have great difficulty
with it.  Were they unpopular because they were poorly done
or because they strayed too far from the comfort zone of
western pop?
2)  A synthesis of all of the different styles to which
Americans are exposed might be less than rich simply because
there is so little diversity of style for listeners
preoccupied with pop--commercial or alternative.
What sort of syntheses might be the most successful?
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From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      sheet music request

OK - strange request # 1295826 from me....

I am currently involved in a law school parody musical. Two of the songs we
are using are "You Shook Me All Night Long" (AC/DC) and a VIllage People
Medley (In the Navy, YMCA and Macho Man) The sheet music fro the above
stuff is out of print permanently, according to a very comprehensive music
supplier here. Does anyone have any of it, and would you be willing to send
me a copy of it/them? Any answers would be appreciated. If you like, reply
privately so you don't have to admit that you have this stuff....

Marsha (mjferzig@midway.uchicago.edu)

Marsha J. Ferziger
University of Chicago School of Law
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