From: jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff Papineau)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: John Lear
Date: 11 Oct 92 05:56:33 GMT
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In article <1992Oct10.201925.21443@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> cschmidt@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Christopher Schmidt) writes:
>Where can I get a copy of the John Lear article?
>
>Someone else did post an article here by John Lear, but the poster had
>converted the article from printed form to an ASCII file by use of an
>optical scanner, and he did not proofread the result.  The article he
>posted contained many errors.  It even included several paragraphs
>that appeared to be from some other article all together.  I only
>mention this as a caution to others who might be considering the use
>of an optical scanner.
>
>Christopher Schmidt
>Waltham, Massachusetts, USA
>schmidt@northeastern.edu

Here is my scanned in John Lear statement. It is actually 2 statements run
together. One was a follow up to the first, and though I did preserve the 
order, I think I may not have made that clear in the first post I made
a couple of months ago. Please send me back a proofed copy if I missed 
a lot. You have no idea how difficult this was to scan (my first time,
and not a good source copy to begin with), so I ran out of gas trying
to fix what got fixed. 

Keep in mind that Lear is not an angel. In fact, he is very likely a
source of CIA disinformation. But much of what he is saying could still
be true, regardless of his sources, agenda, etc. My educated guess is that
disinformation is usually mixed with quit a bit of real info, and the trick
is to separate the two...

Just as a further reference so you can start to check some of this out
on your own, the Michael Lindemann book; UFO's; Six Viewpoints has the 
most current information on Bob Lazar that I have found. It is a very 
compeling interview, and goes into details that Lear was not
prepared to reveal when he made these statements below.

I would recommend this book to anyone that wants to get a pretty clear
idea of just what MAY be going on, to date, with the UFO "thing". ML
is the best researcher I have found to date, free of years worth of 
preconcieved notions, he is a younger man, came upon the subject with
a normal cautious viewpoint, and did his own research in the Antelope 
Valley, CA, and has corraborated much of what Lazar has to say through
interviews with many eye witnesses whom have seen things with their own
eyes in and around Edwards Air Base, China Lake, and Nellis AFB; very 
strange indeed. 
He is the next generation, free of years worth
of garbage the first generation still totes around. His small publication
intitled "UFO's and the New World Order is nothing short of a stunning
big picture that is the clearest articulation of the current political
situation regarding ET visitation I have read to date, and is more 
recent that the above mentioned book.

Jeff-
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JOHN LEAR

The following statement is a 'working hypothesis written by John Lear on
December 29, 1987 and revised on January 14 and again in March. This
revision is dated August 25, 1 9 88 .

John Lear is a Lockheed L-1011 captain for a major US airline and has flown
over 160 different types of aircraft in over 50 different countries. He holds
17 world speed records in the Lear Jet and is the only pilot ever to hold every
airman certificate Issued by the Federal Aviation Administration. Mr. Lear has
flown missions worldwide for the CIA and other government agencies. A former
Nevada State Senator candidate, he is the son of William P. Lear, designer of
the Lear Jet, the 8-track stereo and founder of Lear Siegler Corp. Lear
became interested in UFO's in the summer of 1986 after talking with United
States Air Force personnel who had witnessed a UFO landing at Bentwaters AFB,
near London, England, and three small aliens walking up to Wing Commander
Gen. Gordon Williams.

August 25, 1988

THE UFO COVER-UP
by
John Lear

The sun does not revolve around the earth.
The United States government has been in business with little gray exra
terrestrials for about 20 years.

The first truth stated hero got Giordano Bruno burned at the stake in 1600
for daring to propose that it was real. The second truth has gotten far more
people killed trying to state it publicly than will ever be known.

But the truth must be told. The fact that the earth revolves around the sun was
successfully suppressed by the church for over 200 years. It eventually caused
major upheaval in the church, government and thought. A realignment of social
and traditional values. That was in the 1800's.

Now, about 400 years after the first truth was pronounced we must again face
the shocking facts. The horrible truth; the government has been hiding from
us over 40 years. Unfortunately "the horrible truth" is far more horrible than 
the
government ever imagined.

in its effort to protect democracy our government sold us to the aliens. And
here is how it happened. But before I begin I'd like to offer a word in the 
defense
of those who bargained us away. They had the best of intentions .

Germany may have recovered a flying saucer in 1939 . General James H.
Doolittle went to Sweden in 1946 to investigate report of 'ghost rockets'
UFO's 1000's of which had been sighted over a 7 month period.

The "horrible truth was known by only a very few persons.  they were indeed
ugly little creatures, Shaped like praying mantises and who were more
advanced than us by perhaps as much as a billion years. Of the original group 
that were
the first to learn "the horrible truth" several committed suicide, the most
prominent of which was Defense secretary James V. Forrestal who jumped to his 
death
from a 16th story hospltal wlndow . Secy. Forrestal's medical records are 
sealed
to this day.

President Truman qulckly put a lld on the secret and turned the screws so tight
that the general public still think that flying saucers are a joke. Have- I 
ever
got a surprise for them.

In 1947 President Truman established a group of 12 top military and scientific
personnel of their time . They were known as MJ-12 . Although the group exists
today, none of the original members are still alive. The last one to die was
Gordon Gray, former Secretary of the Army, in l984. As each member passed
away, the group itself appointed a new member to fill the position. There is
some speculation that the group known ~s MJ-12 expanded to at least several
more members.

There were several more saucer crashes in the late 1940's, one l.. Roswell, Now
Mexico, one lnAztec, New Mexico and one near Loredo, Texas, about 30 miles
inside the Mexican border.

Consider if you will the position of the United States government at that tame.
They proudly thought of themselves the most powerful nation on earth having
recently produced the atomic bomb, an achievement so stupendous that lt. would
take Russians 4 years to catch up and only with the help traitors to democracy.
They had built a jet aircraft that had exceeded the speed of sound in flight. 
They
had bullet jet bombers with intercontinental range that could carry weapons of
enormous destruction. The cold war ~ had brought economic prosperity and
the future- seemed bright. Now imagine what lt. was like for those men. Orson 
Wells radio broadcast of The
War of the Worlds" in 1938. Thousands of Americans panicked at a realistically
presented invasion of earth of beings from another planet. Imagine their horror
as they actually viewed the dead bodies of those frightening looking little
creatures with enormous eyes, reptilian skin and claw like fingers. Imagine
their shock as they attempted to determine how these strange saucers were
powered and could discover no part even remotely similar to components they
were familiar with no cylinders or pistons, no vacuum tubes or turbines,
The stories are legendary on transporting crashed saucers over long distances,
moving only at night, purchasing complete farms, slashing through forests,
blocking major highways, sometimes driving 2 and 3 lo-boys in tandem with
an extraterrestrial load a hundred feet in diameter

On April 25, 1964, the first official communication between these aliens and 
the
U S Government took place at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico
3 saucers landed ~t ~ pre-arranged area and a meeting was held between the
aliens and intelligence officers of the U S Government

During the late 60's or early 70's MJ-12 representing the U.S. Government
made a deal with those creatures called EBE's (extra-terrestrial biological 
entities,
named by Detley Bronk,origlnal MJ-12 member and 6th president of Johns Hopklns
University) The 'deal' was that in exchange for 'technology' that they would
provide to us we agreed to 'ignore' the abductions that were going on and 
suppress
information on the cattle mutilations The EBE's assured MJ-12 that the 
abductions
(usually lasting about 2 hours) were merely the ongoing monitoring of 
developing
civilizations

In fact, the purposes for the abductions turned out to b-

(1) Insertion of 3 mm spherical device through the nasal cavity of
the abductee into the brain. The device is used for the biological
monitoring, tracking and control of the abductee.
(2) Implementation of post hypnotic suggestion to carry out a specific
activity during a specific tame period, the actuation of which
wall occur within the next 2 to 5 years

(3) Termination of some people so that they could function as living
sources for biological material and substances

(4) Termination of individuals who represent a threat to the continuation
of their activity.

(5) Effect genetic engineering experiments.

(6) Impregnation of human females and early termination of pregnancies
to procure the crossbred infant.

The U.S. Government was not aware of the far reaching consequences
of their deal. They were lead to believe that the abductions were essentially
benign and since they figured the abductions would probably go on anyway
whether or not they agreed, they merely insisted that a current list of 
abductees
be submitted, on a periodic basis to MJ-12 and the National Security Council.
Does this sound incredible ? An actual list of abductions to the National
Security Council? Reed on, because I have news for you

The EBE's have a genetic disorder in that their digestive system is atrophied
and not functional Some speculate that they were involved in some type of
accident or nuclear war, or possibly on the back side of an evolutionary 
genetic
curve. In order to sustain themselves they use an enzyme or hormonal secretion
obtained from the tissue that they extract from humans and animals. (Note: cows
and humans are genetically similar. In the event of a national disaster cow 
hemoglobin
can be used by humans.)

The secretions obtained are then mixed with hydrogen peroxide and applied on
the skin by spreading or dipping part of their bodies in the solution. The body
absorbs the solution then excretes the waste back through the skin. The cattle
mutilations that were prevalent throughout the period from 1973 to 1983 and
publicly noted through newspaper and magazine stories and included a 
documentary
produced by Linda Howe for the Denver CBS affiliate , were for the
collection of those tissues by the aliens. The mutilations included genitals
taken, rectums cored out to the colon, eyes, tongue and throat all surgically
removed with extreme precision. In some cases the incisions were made by
cutting between the cells, a process we are not yet capable of performing in 
the
field. In many of the mutilations there was no blood found at all in the 
carcass,
yet there was no vascular collapse of the internal organs. This has been also
noted in the human mutilations, one of which was Sgt. Jonathan
P. Louotte at the White Sands Missile Test Range in 1956 who was found three
days after on Air Force Major had witnessed his abduction by a 'disk shaped'
object at 0300 while on a search for missile debris downrange. His genitals
had been removed, rectum cored out in a surgically precise 'plug' up to the
colon, eyes removed and all blood removed with again, no vascular collapse.
From some of the evidence lt. is apparent that this surgery is accomplished in
most cases while the victim, animal or human is still alive.

The various parts of the body are taken to various underground laboratories
one of which is known to be near the small New Mexico town of Dulce.
This jointly occupied (CIA-alien) facility has been described as enormous
with huge tiled walls that 'go on forever'. Witnesses have reported huge
vats filled with an amber liquid with parts of human bodies being stirred 
inside.

After the initial agreement, Groom Lake, one of this nation's most secret test
centers,was closed for a period of about a year sometime between 1972 and
1974, and a huge underground facility constructed for and with the help of the
EBE's. The bargained for technology was set in place but could only be operated
by the EBE's themselves. Needless to say, the advanced technology could not
be used against the EBE's themselves in case of need.

During the period between 1979 and 1983 lt. became increasingly obvious to 
MJ-12
that things were not going as planned. It became known that many more people
in the thousands) were being abducted than were listed on the official 
abduction
lists. In addition it became obvious that some, not all, but some of the 
nations
missing children had been used for secretions and other parts required by the 
aliens.

According to some, there was an altercation between the U.S. military and the
aliens at the Dulce laboratory. A special armed forces unit was called in to 
try
and free a number of our people trapped in the facility who had become aware of
what was really going on. According to one source 66 of the soldiers were 
killed
in the effort and our people were not freed.

By 1983, MJ-12 must have been in stark terror at the mistake they had made in
dealing with the EBE's. They had subtly influenced through Dr. Hynek, formerly
with the Blue Book project, who had allegedly broken ties with the Air Force in
the late 60's but who in reality continued to be their informant in his cover 
capacity
of Director of the Center for UFO Studies) "Close Encounters of the Third kind"
and "E.T." (now admitted by some members of MJ-12 to have been a 'drastic 
mistake')
to get the public used to "odd looking" aliens that were compassionate, 
benevolent
and very much our "space brothers". MJ-12 had, in effect, 'sold' the EBE's to 
the
public, and were now faced with the fact that quite the opposite was true. In 
addition,
a plan had been formulated in 1968 to make the public aware of the existence of
aliens on earth over the next 20 years to be culminated with several 
documentaries
to be released during the 1985-1987 period of tame. These documentaries would
explain the history and intentions of the EBE's . The discovery of the "Grand
Deception" put the entire plans, hopes and dreams of MJ-12 into utter confusion
and panic.

Meeting at the "Country Club", ~ remote lodge with private golf course, 
comfort-
able sleeping and working quarters and its own private airstrip bullet by and 
ex-
exclusively for the members of MJ-12, lt. was a factional fight of what to do 
now.
Part of MJ-12, which had now become military top-heavy, wanted to confess the 
whole

scheme and shambles lt. had become to the public, beg their forgiveness and ask
for their support. The other part (and majority) of MJ-12 argued that there was 
no
way they could do that, that the situation was untenable and there was no use 
in
exciting the public with the 'horrible truth' and that the best plan was to 
continue
the development of a weapon or plan of containment' that could be used against
the EBE's under the guise of "SDI" the so-called Strategic Defense Initiative 
which
had nothing whatever to do with a defense for inbound Russian nuclear missiles. 
In
fact, the real definition of purpose for SDI reads " The plotting, tracking and
acquisition of articles in deep space." As these words are being written, Dr.
Edward Teller, 'father' of the H-bomb is personally in the nuclear test tunnels 
of
the Nevada Test Site, driving his workers and associates in the words of one, 
'like
a man possessed'. And well he should be for Dr. Teller is a member of MJ-12 
along
with Dr. Kissinger, Admiral Tobby Inman, General Lew Allen to name a few 
members
of MJ-12.

Before the "Grand Deception" was discovered and according to a meticulous plan
of release of information to the public, several documentaries and video
tapes were made. William Moore, a Burbank, California based UFO researcher
who wrote "The Roswell Incident a book published in 1980 that detailed the 
crash,
recovery and subsequent cover-up of a UFO with 4 alien bodies has a video tape
of 2 newsman interviewing a military officer associated with MJ-12. This 
military
officer answers questions relating to the history of MJ-12 ant the cover-up, 
the
recovery of a number of flying saucers ant the existence of a live alien (one 
of 3
living aliens captured and designated or named EBE-l, EBE-2 and EBE-3 being 
held
in a facility designated as YY-II at Los Alamos, New Mexico. The only other 
facility
of this type, which is electromagnetically secure, is at Edwards Air Force Base 
in
Mohave, California). The officer names names as previously mentioned plus a few
others: Harolt Brown, Richard Helms, Gen. Vernon Walters, Dr. Lew Allen
and Dr. Theodore von Karman to name a few of the current and past members of
MJ- 1 2 .

The officer also relates the fact that the EBE's claim to have created Christ. 
The
EBE's have a type of recording device that has recorded all of earth's history 
and
can display it in the form of a hologram. This hologram can be filmed but 
because
of the way holograms work does not come out very clear on movie film or video
tape. The crucifixion of Christ on the Mount of Olives has allegedly been put
on film to show the public. The EBE's claim to have created Christ, which, in 
view of
the "Grand Deception" could be on effort to disrupt traditional values for un-
determined reasons.

Another video tape allegedly in existence is an interview with an EBE. Since 
EBE's
communicate telepathically an Air Force colonel serves as an interpreter. Just
before the recent stock market crash several newsmen including Bill Moore had

been invited to Washington, D.C. to personally film the EBE in a similar type
interview and distribute the film to the public. Apparently, because of the 
market
crash, it was felt the timing was not propitious. In any case it certainly 
seems like
an odd method to inform the public of extraterrestrials, but it would be in 
keeping
with the actions of a panicked organization who at this point in time didn't 
know
which way to turn.

Moore is also in possession of more Aquarius documents a few pages of which
leaked out several years ago and detailed the supersecret NSA project which
had been denied by them until just recently. In a letter to Senator John Glenn
NSA's Director of Policy Julia B. Wetzel wrote, "Apparently there is or was an
Air Force project by that name Aquarius) which dealt with UFO's. 
Coincidentally,
there is also an NSA project by that name." NSA's project Aquarius deals
specifically with the 'communications with aliens' (the EBE's). Within the
Aquarius program was project 'Snowbird' a project to test fly A recovered alien
aircraft at Groom Lake, Nevada. This project continues today at that location.
In the words of an individual who works at Groom Lake 'our people are much
better at taking things apart than they are at putting them back together'.
Another saw a saucer being trucked into the Nevada Test Site in March of 1988.
Still another informant witnessed a saucer being buried at that location (for 
God
knows whatever reason) during the second week of August 1988.







If the government felt they were being forced to acknowledge the existence of
aliens on earth because of the overwhelming evidence such as the Hudson Valley
sightings during the past 4 years, the Wythevllle, Va. sightings in October and
November of 1987, the Gulf Breeze, Florlda sightings in which documentary
evidence in the form of stereoscopic photographs and video tape were taken
between November of 1987 and May of l988, the Lake Superior sightings of
1987 and the sightings in and around Las Vegas, Nevada and the Nevada Test
Site, and taking into consideration the "Grand Deception" and obviously hostile
intent of the EBE's it might be expedient for MJ-12 to admit to the EBE's but
conceal the information on the mutilations and abductions of humans and 
animals.

The enormity of the problem must be driving more than a few 'at the top' to 
drink.
But what about the rest of us? Most of those reporting sightings are being
viciously ridiculed by government sponsored 'debunkers' such as Philip Klass,
former Avionics editor for Aviation Week and Space Technology, NASA scientist
James Oberg and a host of others. When the truth does emerge, fl lt. ever does,
how is this shabby, dishonest treatment of totally sane, normal and patriotic
citizens going to be justified ?

Now you ask, "Why haven't I heard about any of this?" Who do you think you
would hear it from? Dan Rather? Tom Brokaw? Sam Donaldson? Wrong. These
people just read the news. They don't find lt. They have ladies that call and

interview witnesses and verify statements on stories coming over the wire 
either
AP or UPI. It's not like Dan Rather would go down to Wytheville, Virginia and 
dig
into why there were 4000 reports of sightings in October and November of 1987.
Better that Tom Brokaw or someone else should risk their credibility on this 
type
of story. Tom Brokaw ? Tom wants Sam Donaldson to risk his credibility. No
one. ..but no one is going to risk their reputation on such outlandish ideas
regardless of how many people report sightings of 900 foot objects running them
off the road. In the case of the Wythevllle, VA. sightings,dozens of vans with
NASA lettered on the side failed to interest newsmen. And those that asked
questions were informed that NASA was doing a weather survey.

Well then you ask what about our scientists...what about Carl Sagan? Isaac
Asimov? Arthur C. Clarke? Wouldn't they have known? If Carl Sagan knows,
then he is committing a great fraud through the solicitation of memberships in
the Planetary Society, 'to search for extraterrestrial intelligence'.
Another charade into which the U.S. Government dumps millions of dollars
every year is the radiotelescope in Arecibo, Puerto Rico operated by Cornell
University with, guess who, Carl Sagan. Cornell University is ostensibly
searching for signals from outer space, a sign maybe, that somebody is out
there. Its hard to believe that relatively intelligent astronomers like Sagan
could be so stupid.

What about Isaac Asimov? Surely the most prolific science fiction writer of

all time would have guessed by now that there must be an enormous cover-up.
One current hypothesis is that, on the available evidence, it appears that
the EBE's are trying to regenerate their own species at our expense. They
have apparently suffered either some kind of nuclear holocaust or they may
be on the back side of a bell-shaped evolutionary curve where in essence they
are 'devolving' instead of evolving. In any case, according to several 
autopsies
of aliens that have leaked out, the EBE's have an atrophied digestive system
and other physical problems. This would account for their attempts to cross-
breed with us as outlined in 'Intruders' by Budd Hopkins (a detailed study of 
an
Indianapolis woman who, over several years produces 7 cross-breed alien 
children
none of whom she was allowed to keep. Not that she wanted to.)

Whatever the answer these facts are indisputable. The extent and number of
persons reported missing every year is a closely guarded government secret.
(Since 1980 at least 20,000 children have been reported missing each year.)
Cattle mutilations (over 14,000 since 1973) are regarded officially by the gov-
ernment as 'a hoax'. Human abductions are officially regarded by the government
as a 'hoax' . The latest polls show that 88X of all Americans believe that 
intelligent
life on other planets is probable and that over 20 million Americans have seen 
what
they believed to be a UFO. But the U.S. Government officially dismisses 'flying
saucers' as a 'hoax'. What do you think?

The best advice I can give you is next time you see a flying saucer and are 
awed
by its obvious display of technology and gorgeous lights of pure color:

RUN LIKE HELL



Update on Current Events

A Public Briefing
given by John Lear
May 14,1990
Las Vegas

What I'm going to do today is just bring you up to date on some of
the stuff that I know that's going on. Obviously, if you came here
today, you know that what they call the phenomenon is real - it's
going on. It's very frightening. I don't have to convince anybody here
about what's going on, so instead of going through the usual
background of all of this I'll just start off with a list of what's
been happening in the last six months - the stuff that I know that's
going on.

To start with, I'd like to start with the issue of missing
children. If anyone was at the Bud Hopkins talk at the Spring Valley
Library, you will remember that Bud has always made a point of saying:

My field is abductions, that's all I do, I don't get into any of the
other research, I'm not qualified on it, I haven't done the research
and so I just stick with abductions. By the way, the Meier case was A
fraud, the Adamski case was a fraud, there's no missing children and
Bob Lazar is a fraud.

Bud's a nice guy but he speaks of things that he doesn't know
anything about. The Adamski case WAS true. I know it because I talked
with the CIA guy that went down to interview him. he was down there
for a couple of days and they told him enough that there's no doubt
that Adamski had all the experiences that he talked about.

As far as the Meier case, when I first got into what they call

UFOlogy I was told that the Meier case was a fraud, the pictures
were faked,etc. I really believed that, and on one of the first George
Knapp interviews that I did I said that the Meier case was a fraud.
After about a year, I started checking around to make sure I was on
firm ground. I called all the guys I knew in the field and asked them
what their best evidence was that Meier was a fraud. They would say
things like, Oh, uh somebody else said that. Then you trace it
further and no one seemed to know who was the one that started it.
There was a lot of talk that the photos were hoaxed and that he had
models in his garage....the bottom line is that there was no evidence
that it was a fraud. In fact, Lazar worked on a machine identical to
one of the craft in the Meier photos.

As far as Lazar is concerned, Hopkins said don't believe what
government scientists tell you . I have been involved in the Lazar
case for about two years and there's no question in my mind that
everything he says happened up there actually happened. There are a
number of things that happened to him that we're not telling the
public, and with good reason. First of all, they wouldn't believe it,
and secondly it would not really add that much more to the case. Bud
was on a little shaky ground there. As far as the missing children
issue is concerned Hopkins, in order to prove his case, looked around
the audience at the Spring Valley Library (about 250 people) and asked
"does anybody here know of A missing child?". Of course, no one raised
their hand and he said, "I rest my case". That's patently ridiculous.
There are quite a number of missing children. There's an interesting
book out called "A Good Night's Story". I heard about it from Bob
Oechsler, head of the MUFON section in Maryland, and the story is
printed like a children's book and it's about children being abducted.
Copies are going into every library and school. It has nothing to do
with aliens or anything, but if child abductions is not a big problem,
why the wide distribution of the book? There is a telephone number
that you can call to order the book, 1-800-444-BLUE. I don't know
what's behind it.

I'd like to talk a little about Dulce. The question is "is this true,
does Dulce exist?" I like to have four independent confirmations about
whatever I look into. The forth confirmation came in several months
ago from an aerospace engineer who worked for the Air Force, mainly in
designing aircraft and rockets. He was deeply involved in the Space
Shuttle program. He said "yes, that in fact he had been at Dulce, that
it exists". he visited the facility for something other than genetic
engineering. The name that he knew it by WAS "Section B". So Dulce
does exist. About six months ago, Gabe Valdez' brother found some
of the aboveground ventilation shafts for the base on the top of Mount
Archeleta. There were going to wait until the snow clears, which is
just about now, before attempting to investigate further. I understand
that the ducts were rectangular, horizontal, and about 30 feet wide.
One of the guys that worked on the Meier video did some very
sophisticated frequency analysis of the area and he said "whatever is
under there puts out energy of a city the size of New York. There's
just all kinds of stuff going on under there. That's the update on
Dulce.

As far as the Greys are concerned, there are all types of Greys. They
are definitely cybernetic organisms . They are not a species'
themselves. They work for someone else. There are several different
levels of them. There are many instances that indicate that they don't
function independently by themselves. They operate from higher orders.

In one particular abduction case, somebody had grabbed one and by the
movements of the arms they could see that the Gray had been programmed
to fend off an attack by moving its arms in a certain way. All it
really had to do was turn around and back away. It points out that
they are being programmed.

I would like to cover the incident where the astronauts were supposed
to have said that they had an alien spaceship in visual contact.
Apparently after very thorough research by Bob Oechsler and his group
in Maryland, it turns out that this transmission was sent from a 12
square mile area which included CIA headquarters and the NSA facility
at Fort George Meade. Apparently it was a test of some kind to see if
the public would bite". I really don't know what it was, but that's
the area that it was sent from. It was a very sophisticated
transmission. It was Blaha's voice, but it was not coming from the
Discovery. I thought that was interesting.

I would like to briefly talk about Bill Cooper. George Knapp did a
very brutal 20 minutes about Cooper. There are a number of things that
are very suspicious about Bill, but I would like to tell you that I
believe that Bill Cooper did have access to information in 1973 when
he was in the Navy, and that the information did include some
information about some of the dealings with the aliens. It was my
understanding when I first met Bill, that when he was stationed at
Pearl Harbor he had the key to a classified area. He would go in there
at night and read some of these briefings. That's what he told me.
Later on, he started saying that he was part of an intelligence
briefing team. I don't think he was; at least that's not what he told
me. Also, in the beginning he limited his verification of what I was
saying by saying " Look, I can only support 50% of what you 're saying
It later became 150%. Nothing is black or white - it's all shades of
Gray. Cooper did have access to some information in 1973, but not as
much as he would like you to believe he did. You can take that for
what it 's worth. He has done some very strange things. He has threatened
me on at least four occasions. He thinks that I'm with the agency
and involved in disinformation, so that's his deal.

The other day, a guy came up to my house who was out in the forest
with Charles Halt the very first night of the Bentwaters incident
that something landed. There was a rectangular object that landed, and
he actually jumped on top of it. He said he could look down inside the
object . He has never made any public statement at all . I never thought
that I would ever get to meet him. He did in fact confirm that the
incident did in fact happen.

As far as an update on AIDS is concerned, AIDS was developed by the
Navy in 19l2. The specific doctor that developed it was a doctor by
the name of R.M. Donner. The initial AIDS research was financed by
Congress. July 1, 1969 is when they had the hearings. This is a
copy of the DOD appropriations report for 1970 (Ed note: See July 90
Leading Edge). It was chaired by Robert Sykes. The testimony reveals
exactly what they wanted - a biological virus for which there was no
known immunity. They finally got it developed in 1972 and started
doing experiments. The biggest experiment was in 1977/78 when they
released it in Africa, which is now lOO% infected. In the United
States in 1978/79 AIDS was released to the white male homosexual
population through the Hepatitis B vaccine. The reason they wanted to
start with the white male homosexual population was that they wanted
to get it to spread very quickly, and they thought that people would
not worry about it if they thought that only drug abusers or
homosexuals were involved. That 's what happened. The Navy goal WAS to
infect 75% of the worlds population by April of 1991. Those are from
top classified government documents. What's interesting is that by the
present rate of infection, 75% of the population will not be infected
by the April 91 target, so what we're looking at is other ways the
government may have of spreading this disease. I am kind of happy I
don't live in California, where those helicopters are flying up and
down spraying for the Medfly.
Whitley Streiber. I heard the other day that he's become a recluse,
that he's destroyed emotionally by the reception of Communion and
his second book Majestic, even though it's an excellent book and I
would recommend it to anyone who wants a good outline on what the
Government did in 194l when they recovered the saucer at Roswell.
It's an excellent book. One of the interesting things about the
book is the two autopsy reports in the back. They are absolutely the
truth. I don't know where he got those - the original reports about
the two aliens. Whitley used to call me all the time in the middle of
the night and chat for two or three hours up until about a year ago.

A little more about Bob Oechsler. Oechsler has done a lot of research
in the Chesapeake Bay area. There's really something big going on
there. Basically, it appears the HQ of MJ-12 is back on Kent Island
or somewhere back there. A lot of EMP research and engineering is
going on. A lot of underground activity - all kinds of stuff. What's
interesting is that about a year ago he ran into Admiral Inman, who
is supposedly one of the MJ-12 members. Bob stopped him and asked to
be put in touch with somebody in MJ-12. Inman took Bob's card and
looked at him with kind of a half smile and said, let me see what I
can do." About 6 months later he called and set up a meeting for
Oechsler to go and see General Stafford, who is head of some kind of
organization at the Pentagon. Oechsler went to see him and went down
some ramps under the Pentagon and into this one corridor where he was
required to walk through what he thought was a metal detector, but
when he walked through it he felt real dizzy and walked in Staffords
office still kind of reeling from this thing. He asked Stafford, "what
in the world was that?". Stafford said, don't worry about it, I had
a headache for six weeks after first going through that thing". Bob
had a lot of strange things happen to him. Supposedly in September 90,
there is going to be another release of government information about
UFOs or aliens. Here we go again. Supposedly Oechsler's going to be
a part of it. Supposedly they're going to show a saucer and a dead
body. I've heard that so many times I don't believe it. Oechsler is
supposedly being briefed on some of the things the government is
doing. He was sent down to Ellington AFB near Houston and shown a
government research laboratory that we have down there that was 40
feet long, 20 feet wide and it was a zero gravity chamber. It has a
very bright light at the top and everybody was floating. Oechsler is
not quite sure where this lab is. He was taken there in a black
helicopter that did not look like any of the helicopters we have in
inventory. It was very smooth and looked like it WAS molded in one
piece. Oechsler said that it sounded like a helicopter until it was
25 feet off the ground and then there was dead silence. He didn't
hear a thing. He estimates that it was near Pensacola where there
was a large platform and a number of buildings. He was taken into the
building and shown the primary SDI facility, which was a great big
room, and suspended on the ceiling was a 25'x25' three dimensional
video "presentation". On it was represented the southeastern portion
of the United States and then there was a grid pattern that came up
to what was represented as 300,000 feet. There were "vortexes"
represented here and there in the gridwork. There were little dots
labeled "ASC's". We don't know what that means. You could see flights
of some type enter these "vortex~ areas and apparently go underground,
but if one went down in a different area, it would split up into eight
blips. Interesting. There were only men in there, no woman. Everybody
had on black pants with a white shirt buttoned up to the collar with
a tie. No one smiled. Oechsler doesn't know what the place was. He was
just shown it and given no other information. He tried to get in touch
with General Stafford after that, but so far no luck.

The aerospace engineer that I spoke of confirmed that Dulce existed
and that we do have a base on the Moon. I have several other sources
that confirm the base on the Moon. They go there regularly. I don't
know what they do there, but it does exist. He also confirmed the
existence of the base on Mars. It's already there.

I have come up with some information during the past month about the
Challenger accident from an individual who has worked at Cape Kennedy
for a number of years. Apparently, the Challenger was blown up by
the Russians. It was a KGB unit that did it. They did it using 1l
Libyans who had access to the protected areas. An explosive
charge was put on the strut that held the SRB to the main fuel tank
and it ignited, banging the SRB against the fuel tank. It was the
only launch were all the Russian trawlers pulled out several hundred
miles into the ocean away from the Cape. There was also a video and
radio link that was held aloft by a balloon, and the night before
the launch the cable was cut so they couldn't get any pictures on
launch day of the SRB strut area. There were also a number of other
things that happened. Apparently, the Soviet Chernobyl incident was
caused by the United States in retaliation for the Challenger
indecent. Now I am looking into that, and I will let you know what I
find out.

I went to a very interesting talk by Bill Hamilton, who's here to-
night, and after the talk we went on a very interesting mission to
check out the Lockheed skunk works near Los Angeles. This skunk works
has done a lot of secret of work. As you've read in the papers,
they're moving Lockheed to Georgia to do a lot of the work down there.
They are also closing down the plant at Burbank, saying that they Are
going to move it down to Palmdale, but we think they are moving
operations to the Tehachapi mountain area, where there already is an
underground facility in the western portion of the Antelope Valley.
There was a lot of activity going on there. We think that saucer craft
are being produced at this underground facility using other types of
technology. Bill is here today and brings the information that the
silo doors at this so-called "Tehachpi Ranch" have been seen to open
and a saucer shaped craft has flown out of it. I would have like to
have seen that Sunday night.

The other day I was over Bob Lazar's house and we were looking through
a classified book on nuclear bomb technology up until 1960, and we
were discussing how many bombs have been exp1oded in space. Up until
1960 there were at least four. The first one was in August 1958 and
was called TEAK. It was A hydrogen bomb exploded 252,000 feet over
Johnston Island. What's interesting about this is that I don't think

we had that kind of capability" in those days of launching things
like that. I took out my Jane's "All the Worlds Spacecraft And went
back and found out that after Sputnik was launched we had ( as far
as the public was concerned) quite an effort to get something up there
ourselves. that Was the Redstone and Vanguard rockets. It turns out
that the first launch was successful but every one after that failed.
We just couldn't get anything off the ground. All that stuff was just
a ruse, because a year later we were launching hydrogen bombs over
Johnston Island that weighed two tons. The public was told that we
couldn't even get a three pound object into space. Apparently there
was a classified launch facility in the Pacific.

With regard to the South African incident, it appears that it was a
hoax perpetrated by James Van Gruenen, who has A history of hoaxes. We
don't know what the final outcome was. Van Gruenen even offered one
producer a chance to meet an alien from the Space Council. This
producer contacted me and I told him to check Van Gruenen's
background.

I got a call from Linda Howe a couple days ago, and she told me that
there WAS A discussion by VP Quayle about reorienting the SDI toward
shooting down an incoming asteroid and that it was in a paper. She's
supposed to send me the article. What is interesting is that we've
heard this story for the last two or three years About an incoming
asteroid. It's obviously under intelligent control, it's putting out
radio emissions. Supposedly it's on the edge of the solar system now,
heading this way. I have at least three confirmations that it does
exist. The code name is supposedly Wormwood. One of the confirmations
came from a friend of s guy in the CIA. They were out one night and
the CIA guy was drinking heavily And was very depressed. His friend
asked him what the matter was, asking "is it the thing that is coming
in from space?. The agency guy dropped his glass and said, how do
you know about that?. That's one of them. If we are reorienting SDI
in that way, that opens a lot of questions about what is going on.
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