From: gil@Gilsys.DIALix.oz.au (Gil Hardwick)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Space: The Final Frontier ) was Witches and death (
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Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 07:23:16 GMT
Organization: STAFF STRATEGIES - Anthropologists & Training Agents


In article <gate.uDDoTB1w165w@pil.UUCP> alizard@pil.UUCP writes:

 > this is from last night... Gil, you appear to be qualified to speak within
 > your discipline and from your observations, your qualifications to speak about
 > what it takes to feed the industrial complex it takes to make the electronic
 > devices you take so lightly appear to be non-existent.

Are you really trying to berate me with a repeated posting of the same
senseless crap you have already regurgitated? Or are you just trying
to give me the shits completely?

Your original comment, fellow, was to the effect of how lucky we all
were to have the living standards bestowed upon us by the industrial
complex, to which I responded to the effect that such toys are a dime
a dozen; even Aboriginal people in far outback Australia use computers
and have access to satellite communications, none of which has had any
significant impact on their standard of living at all beyond a very
marginal enhancement of their ability to keep in touch with one
another. Big deal!

All these clever toys are available off the shelf, further, comprising
only a supply-side economic stimulus to the industrial complex which
is imposed on other people when it might as well consider the demand-
side stimulus arising from what people themselves want. I repeat; what
people have been asking for is adequate nutrition, health care and
education, which is the province of mature women not the uninitiated
boys who think all these gadgets are so fucking brilliant.

The question arises on how the industrial complex manages to attract
such a massive portion of world resources while hungry people are
simply ignored? Doesn't it make you wonder how Yeltsin was able to
borrow (what was it, $21 billion?) to save his Russian "democracy"
while none of the Southern African states get a brass razoo to help
their people recover from the effects of the same "Cold War" you had
been fighting with the USSR? Believe me, it was pretty bloody hot in
their part of the world.

Maybe it is simply that Russians make better satellite launchers (now
available to the US at the bargain basement price $2-5 million) while
the poor people in Africa can barely grow maize. You can already grow
better crops than the Africans, too, I gather? Why would you want such
lazy black good-for-nothings around anyway? Why don't you just shoot a
few more and help get rid of such a burden on the world economy?

I don't give a fuck what it takes to feed the industrial complex,
beyond that which is forceably taken *from* others against their will
to that purpose. What we are concerned about at this end is what it
takes to feed families and build hospitals and schools.

Or are you another of these Sci-Fi Dweeb Wizards, or something?

Fucking mindless deadshit.

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Gil Hardwick                                      gil@Gilsys.DIALix.oz.au
Independent Consulting Ethnologist                            3:690/660.6
PERTH, Western Australia                                 (+61 9) 399 2401
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