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From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Great Moments / Emotive
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:32:55 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <BvI79M.FCI@acsu.buffalo.edu> dianetti@acsu.buffalo.edu (Donald J. Dianetti) writes:
>In article <BvHDFD.32n@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast) writes:
>Two of my all-time favorite lines, both from "Available Light":

>               "A play of light -- a photograph
>                   The way I used to be
>                Some half-forgotten stranger
>                   Doesn't mean that much to me 
>                Trick of light -- moving picture
>                   Moments caught in flight
>                Makes the shadows darker
>                   Or the colors shine too bright"

An interesting thing about this portion of the lyrics is that it looks
like it can be understood as something personal to Neil too.
Neil has said that when he finds something he wants to express, he
avoids making it too personal by generalizing it so that most anyone
can relate to it. I think he's done that very well in these lyrics.
But traces of the personal are there: ``moments caught in flight'' 
_might_ be understood as `photos from Fly By Night'; and notice the
words `moving picture' -- sure makes me think of ``Moving Pictures''!
It seems that he's put a little more of the personal into this one 
than usual, in order that these lyrics can `resonate' with other 
phrases (the album titles) connected with Rush. Sure this might be 
seen as just a speculation, but think about the overhead video for 
``Hold Your Fire'' when the three red balls pass by the album covers 
(a little Rush through time) -- they seem like a visual verson of
what these lyrics do...


Gregg

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: therese@crchh588.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Therese McCarthy)
Subject: Re: Neil's depth (was Re: neil's cross?)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 21:28:47 GMT

With all this talk about Neil's deepness (lyrics and such), I
was wondering what songs, written by Neil, would people consider
to be pure fluff?  In other words, what songs qualify as having
no deep insights or REAL thought-provoking subjects?  

I guess the only one I can think of off-hand is "I Think I'm 
Going Bald".  Also, songs from the first album don't count because
Geddy wrote them......




Therese  (therese@bnr.ca)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: krm3611@sigma.tamu.edu (Ken McWatters)
Subject: Re: circle, star, nude man (?)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:21:00 GMT

In article <BvpE36.KC5@unccsun.uncc.edu>, jagrizza@uncc.edu writes...
>In article 1arecnINNsm6@uwm.edu, industry@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Mark A Bialik) writes:
>>So what do you all think the pentagram and naked man represent (Archives,
>>2112, Exit....)?  Fear of the devil?
>
Dunno what it means; I always connected it with a man in awe of a higher power,
e.g. the "We" that assume control at the end of 2112  (by the way, when I read
the Foundation trilogy by Asimov in high school, I thought when the "Mule" took
over the Foundation planets, the scene was similar to the 2112 finale.  Is it 
just me?).

Anyway, I wanted to add that the pentagram/man symbol is also on the inner 
record sleeve of Permanent Waves (and it was on a PeW poster I saw once).
Any idea what it is doing there?


As a postscript, I read a while back that in the Rush comic book, Neil was shown
signing a contract right-handed, and the writer of the article indicated that
this was in error.  Does this mean that Neil is left-handed, yet still plays a
right-handed set?  If so, that's news to me.

Ken
From: cfynx@eng.umd.edu (Sridhar P. Rao)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: RTB drumming
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:57:05 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Originator: cfynx@jolt.eng.umd.edu


ho..

overall though, i am not too impressed with the drumming on rtb,  mostly
because i am spoile dby older masterpeices. on a different note -
how about the begniing to big money, that whole sequence up to the inital 
vocals..damn.

cfynx..the analog kid
From: v064myby@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Christophe J Quaranta)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Tragically Hip.
Date: 1 Oct 92 05:00:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Suprised to find this group.  Anyways, I see someone mentioned
the Tragically Hip - I think that's one of the best bands to come out 
in a long time - tremedously happy to have Canadian radio.
					
						Latre
					 	Chris Q.
From: fjs@interceptor.ksu.ksu.edu (Frank J Sereno)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: re: circle, star, nude man (?)
Date: 6 Oct 92 07:27:07 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: interceptor.ksu.ksu.edu


Personally, I believe it is the common man against society and it's 'evil' ways. 
The nudity representing the 'nakedness` of our soul, emotions, feelings, and mind
with the Star--obviously NOT a pentagram--representing the overpowering effect of
societal pressure on us all!  In my opinion, this album has nothing to do with
Satan, specifically or in general.  It seems that only someone stretching to find
something satanic about the band would come up with a crazy idea like that (e.g
The 700 Club, Robert Tilton, Jerry Falwell, etc....).

Oh well...everyone has their crazy little opinions and ideas......

Frank Sereno
Kansas State University
Manhattan, Kansas

"Where we sexually molest Dorothy and Toto each and everyday without hesitation.."
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: crgoc@orlando.uk.cray.com (Gary O'Connor)
Subject: Re: Ozric Tentacles
Organization: Cray Research (UK) Ltd
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 10:57:44 GMT
X-Posted-From: orlando.uk.cray.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Sep30.042426.3317@i88.isc.com>, mikebo@i88.isc.com (Michael Borowiec) writes:
|> Well, after reading so many gushing statements about Ozric Tentacles in
|> this newsgroup, I parted with $33 and acquired the CD double _Afterswish_.
|> This is great psychedelic fusion! I understand this CD is a compilation
|> of stuff they originally released only on cassette in the BBC. So, is the
|> rest of their stuff like this... or even better? I hear they have three
|> studio CDs out and a live one (Live Underslunky?).
|> 
|> Also, I read here some time ago that OT were touring America? Anyone have
|> any concert dates in the States - especially Chicago?
|> - Mike
|> 
|> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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|> INTERACTIVE Systems Corp. - 1901 N. Naper Blvd. - Naperville, IL 60563 USA
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 The Ozrics are absolutely bloody brilliant, I've seen the 5 times live, they
 are superb live (so if you do get the chance in the states, go for it).

 I know they have numerous albums out, I've only got "Pungent Effulgent" & "Erpland"
 which I would highly recommend. I know that in this country there are a lot of 
 unreleased/demo type tapes going around. When the Ozrics first started out, if you
 sent them a blank tape, they'd fill it for you and send it you back, two side's
 of OT. There are quite a lot of these things about, most containing tracks that
 are now on albums, or slightly different versions of said tracks, I can't remember
 of the top of my head what they are called. But if anybody out there is really
 interested, I could find out (my mates have them).

  Basically, they are really good, get smoked up, put an Ozrics album on, and float
  away. My friends & I always take lots of Ozrics with us when we go the Lake District
  or out into rural britain, it's got that spacious feel to it, they belnd well together.

-- 

 Gary O'Connor (crgoc@uk.cray.com) :)-8
From: jimbo@amber.ssd.csd.harris.com (Jim Winters)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Chris Squire
Date: 27 Sep 92 11:34:48 GMT
Organization: Harris Computer Systems Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: amber.ssd.csd.harris.com
In-reply-to: jbbg0390@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu's message of Sat, 26 Sep 1992 20:20:58 GMT

Justin>    Can anyone tell what that Chris Squire album "Fish out of
Justin>    Water" is like?

It's quite nice.  I used to play it over and over.  A favorite.

It *is* a bit emotional, and that wears after 40-50 playings.  :-)
The songs are a bit long, which I usually prefer, but I just find
these a bit long.

Now, that said, I really do like this album a lot, and I made a
special point to buy it again when I started getting CD's rather than
vinyl.

Consider: it's a solo (chance to show off) album by the bass player
(the bass is fairly high in the mix and typically Squire-thumpish);
backup vocalist (does a pretty good job here); and, to me, the
backbone, of Yes at perhaps the band's creative peak.

I particularly like one part where he's got an 11 beat, uh, riff? that
gets played 12 times at the same time as a 12 beat riff that gets
played 11 times.  (I'm not sure if I remember those numbers right.)

I didn't mean to go on and on.  :-)  I recommend it to fans of Yes in
the middle to late 70's.  Second best of the Yes solo albums.  Oops,
not counting anything by Wakeman.
--

--
Jim Winters	jimbo@ssd.csd.harris.com
]O	See through science part of a backdoor.  A door made up of doors...
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: reaume@bmerh962.bnr.ca (Andy Reaume)
Subject: Re: ELP NEW ALBUM
Summary: Classic Albums
Keywords: ELP new album....
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Ontario Canada
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 92 18:28:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.184517.22543@ncsu.edu>, jlwoodal@garcia.warfield.edu writes:
> 
> >#1) _Black Moon_ does not blow, but isn't a classic either. Compared to 
> >their early efforts it pales, then again, you have to admit that none
> >of the elite progressive rock bands  (Yes, Jethro Tull, Peter Gabrial
> >and so on) put out anything close to a ``classic'' album in the last 5
> >or ten years. 
> 
> *Achck!*
> 
> 90125, whether you like it, or no, IS a CLASSIC album.  One of those
> albums you see EVERYWHERE!  I also have to say Gabriel's "So" could
> also be considered a "classic".

My humble apologies. I should have shortened it to only the last 5 
years. _90125_ is a ``classic'' even though it is less progressive than 
the previous Yes albums. Not a bad track on it. _So_ is also a 
``classic'' even though the same ``commercial'' sound is there. For 
both these albums you can argue that they are progressive or commercial.

My main point is that albums like _Union_ have been very 
dissappointing. _Black Moon_ has a few very good tracks and the rest 
ranges from commercial pop-rock to mediocre progressive. Since _So_
by Gabriel, I can't recall any albums by the super-progressive artists
that have made any kind of impact. ABWH (self-titled) was good but not 
spectacular. _Crest of a Knave_ by Jethro Tull has a few very good 
tracks, the rest is commercial (some of it sounds like Dire Straits!)

Apologies,
Andy
From: uslave@mcl.ucsb.edu (Sir Prize!!!)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: MARILLION mail list help
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:10:51 GMT

I tried twice to join the new Marillion mail list, but my requests were
bounced.  Just to make sure I have it right, what exactly am I supposed to
put in the body of the message?  Thanks.


*        *      *     *     *    *   *  *  * * ** ** *** **** ****** *********
   Jesse Chang  (Sir Prize!!!)            INTERNET:  uslave@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu *
   "Just for the record I'm gonna change my life around..."     -- Marillion *
*         *       *      *     *    *   *  *  * ** ** *** **** ****** ********
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: dmandl@shearson.com (David Mandl)
Subject: Re: Anyone seen John Zorn
Reply-To: dmandl@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:26:56 GMT

In article 15552@pellns.alleg.edu, ballj@pell4l20 (Jamie Ball) writes:
>	I am looking for information about John Zorn who did "The Music of  
>Ennnio Morricone," and "Ornette Coleman," and "Naked City
>
>
>Thanks Jamie

He's got millions of LPs available.  Many should be available in
any hip record store.

   --Dave.

---
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
         Dave Mandl            |    Opinions expressed here
       New York City           | are not those of my employer,
   (dmandl@shearson.com)       |          believe me.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: tbmg9061@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Thomas B MacIukenas)
Subject: Re: ELP NEW ALBUM
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:49:29 GMT
Keywords: ELP new album....

jlwoodal@garcia.warfield.edu  writes:

>Should I continue to assume that the new ELP album blows,
>or should I run RIGHT NOW and pick it up?
>Background:
>I thought 3 was an embarrasment.
>ELPowll was equally as bad
>However, I like most anything off the Atlantic Years...
>Oh yeah, I like the new Asia CD.  !?!?!?!?  

If you like the new Asia CD, then all bets are off.  I just got it
and after one listen I'm already wishing I hadn't (and I'm usually
VERY patient with new music).  I myself didn't like the ELP album,
but it wasn't all bad.  I *loved* ELPowell, though, and the Atlantic
stuff too.

Interesting note:  The cover of the new Asia CD is NOT a Roger Dean,
even though it *looks* very much like one.
-- 
___-Tom_Maciukenas_(tbmg9061@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu)______________________________

"S.E.T.E.C. : Special Extra-Terrestrial Earthling Counter"
"A turnip cures Elvis = Universal Studios"                -- from "Sneakers"
From: ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (  179  Peter Thelen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: ELP NEW ALBUM
Keywords: ELP new album....
Date: 4 Oct 92 18:30:41 GMT
Reply-To: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Oct03.182854.12805@bmerh85.bnr.ca> reaume@bmerh962.bnr.ca (Andy Reaume) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.184517.22543@ncsu.edu>, jlwoodal@garcia.warfield.edu writes:
>> 
>> >#1) _Black Moon_ does not blow, but isn't a classic either. Compared to 
>> >their early efforts it pales, then again, you have to admit that none
>> >of the elite progressive rock bands  (Yes, Jethro Tull, Peter Gabrial
>> >and so on) put out anything close to a ``classic'' album in the last 5
>> >or ten years. 
>> 
>> *Achck!*
>> 
>> 90125, whether you like it, or no, IS a CLASSIC album.  One of those
>> albums you see EVERYWHERE!  I also have to say Gabriel's "So" could
>> also be considered a "classic".
>
>My humble apologies. I should have shortened it to only the last 5 
>years. _90125_ is a ``classic'' even though it is less progressive than 
>the previous Yes albums. Not a bad track on it. _So_ is also a 
>``classic'' even though the same ``commercial'' sound is there. For 
>both these albums you can argue that they are progressive or commercial.
>
>My main point is that albums like _Union_ have been very 
>dissappointing. _Black Moon_ has a few very good tracks and the rest 
>ranges from commercial pop-rock to mediocre progressive. Since _So_
>by Gabriel, I can't recall any albums by the super-progressive artists
>that have made any kind of impact. ABWH (self-titled) was good but not 
>spectacular. _Crest of a Knave_ by Jethro Tull has a few very good 
>tracks, the rest is commercial (some of it sounds like Dire Straits!)

I particularly am annoyed by all the dinosaur band reunions of late.
ELP, Kansas, Genesis (their albums are so far apart these days that every
one is a reunion), Union. I think these guys just need money so they get
back together to do these one-offs every few years, make a pile of money
from all the people who buy the records and go to see the shows hoping
that they'll be as good-as-they-used-to-be, then they retire for another
seven or eight years until they're broke again. These bands are no longer
vital, they seem out of touch, and I see very little innovation in the
stuff they produce, they just try to capitalize on their name and their
past. Ok, I admit that Black Moon has a few decent tracks on it, maybe
more than a few, but nothing really special. These guys are just treading
water IMHO. (I know I'll probably get a royal flaming for saying this...)

One notable exception to this would have to be the Dixie Dregs, yes -
they are back together, but knowing Morse's dedication to excellence,
I think these guys are back together mainly to have a good time more
than anything else. They were never that popular to begin with.
Same situation with Brand-X.


peter (ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com)  "The Lighthouse Keeper"
From: haining@fern.ucsc.edu (Theodore Haining)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Digging in the Dirt
Date: 6 Oct 1992 16:44:38 GMT
Organization: UC Santa Cruz CIS/CE
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: fern.ucsc.edu

For all you Peter Gabriel, Genesis fans out there, here's a bit
of trivia:

I just got _Us_ by Peter Gabriel yesterday (a very recommendable 
disc by the way).  I was looking through the credits on the album 
and who did I see doing backing vocals on Digging in the Dirt but
Richard McPhail, Genesis' old sound friend from Foxtrot and Live.

I wonder Richard's been doing for the last twenty years between
appearances.

				cheers,

					->ted.
From: craigs@pyrdc.UUCP (craig)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Saga Info Requested
Keywords: saga discog help info rottweiller
Date: 26 Sep 92 11:13:01 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology, Government Systems

Greetings!

    Having gotten into early SAGA in the last year or so, I would
like to get some more info on the band (the CD reissues are woefully
lacking in any real information, like release dates, who plays what,
etc.) Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

Regards,
Craig Shipley

(who still dosen't have a huge, cool .sig yet!)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,rec.music.misc
From: whunt@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (William Hunt)
Subject: A band called Audience
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:22:59 GMT

Can anyone out there tell me more about an early seventies vintage band 
called Audience.  I have two albums by them, called House on the Hill 
and Lunch.  House on the Hill, which I believe is the earlier of the 
two, is an amazing album - easily on my Desert Island list.  It features
a very predominant classical guitar, great woodwinds (sax, flute and 
clarinet), and  very unique vocals by a man  named Howard Werth.  
The material ranges from a very quiet introspective song called I Had a 
Dream to the long, loud, avant-garde title cut. It
was produced by Gus Dungeon (SP ??) who I believe did Elton John albums
for a long time, and the cover design was by Hipnosis, who did Pink
Floyd covers among many others.

The second album, Lunch, has barely rated a complete playing on my
turntable, partly because it was bought second hand and isn't in 
great shape, but also because it's pretty boring.

Can anyone tell me if they did anything else ? I believe I saw Howard 
Worth's name mentioned in Trouser Press magazine at least ten years
ago, but I've never seen, let alone heard, any solo stuff by him. Any
info would be much appreciated.
-- 
Bill Hunt			Centre for Cold Oceans Resources Engineering
Software Engineer		Memorial University of Newfoundland
whunt@morgan.ucs.mun.ca         Canada
From: binks@luna.compsci.bristol.ac.uk (D. Binks)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Silmarillion
Date: 6 Oct 92 07:52:06 GMT
Organization: University of Bristol
In-reply-to: rabbi@kiwi.gen.nz's message of 2 Oct 92 05:58:22 GMT

In article <21502.2759215021@kiwi.gen.nz> rabbi@kiwi.gen.nz (Rabbi Bajzheet) writes:

   I've occasionally people mention a band called Silmarillion in connection
   with Marillion. Are they one and the same? What did Silmarillion record? Did
   they have Fish singing for them?

The Silmarillion is from Tolkein as many know, Marillion used to be called
Silmarillion in the early days but they dropped the Sil- prefix quite early on.
I think it must have been around the time of Fish joining that this happened as
all the songs released with Fish are under the name Marillion.


--
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Dominic Binks                                      binks@uk.ac.bristol.compsci
Department of Computer Science|University of Brsitol|Bristol|BS8 1US
----------- 
"Meditation, 2. _spec_ (in religuous use): That kind of private devotional
exercise which consists in the coninuous application of the mind to the
comtemplation of some truth, mystery or object of reverence, in order that the
soul may increase in love of God and holiness of life." OED
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: censored/banned/restr
Date: 26 Sep 92 13:43:23 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

>> I hope to be D.J.ing a radio show next month that plays only music that
>has
>> been censored, banned, or restricted to some degree in some part of the
>> country; could anyone out there help me out by sending me names of bands
>> and/or songs that would be appropriate?

     Religious fundamentalists were up in arms a few years ago over an
     XTC song called "Dear God."  Would this count?
---
  SLMR 2.1a  Bush-Quayle 92: No Gays, No Blacks, and No Poor People
--
Channel 1 (R)   Cambridge, MA
From: ipc@zoo.bt.co.uk (Ian Coleman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: In Search of Mel Collins
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:08:14 GMT
Reply-To: ipc@zoo.bt.co.uk
Organization: BT Laboratories

Right, this one is a very tall order. I am looking for a discography
of albums/tracks that Mel has played on and/or groups he has worked
with. Could be fun as he is quite prolific.

To start the ball rolling I am aware of him having worked with the
following:-

Camel
Alan Parsons Project
Dire Straits (Alchemy, any others?)
Clannad
Anthony Phillips.

e-mail responses and I will post a summary!

---
Ian Coleman (ipc@zoo.bt.co.uk)  | "Eat healthily, exercise regularly,
BTL, Martlesham Heath, England  |  you may not live longer, but it'll 
Europe, Earth, Sol, Milky Way...|  certainly feel like it"
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