HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lmjm@doc.ic.ac.uk (Lee M J McLoughlin)
Newsgroups: uk.sources,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Alternative archive for Umich Mac stuff
Date: 2 Sep 92 10:51:48 GMT
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Distribution: eunet
Organization: Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, London. U.K.
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In-reply-to: adrian@ibmpcug.co.uk's message of 1 Sep 92 15:17:59 GMT


In article <1992Sep1.140820.23842@aston.ac.uk> barretpj@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Phil J Barrett) writes:
>Even shorter shortcut directory:
>        src.doc.ic.ac.uk:mac/umich

Please do NOT use this directory.  I'm relaying the filestore out into
a more logical structure and that directory is due to be removed!

Please stick with:
	src.doc.ic.ac.uk:computing/systems/mac/umich

	or:

	src.doc.ic.ac.uk:packages/mac-umich

The top level directory mac will be replaced by computing/systems/mac.
The packages directory is just a collection of symlink shortcuts to
other places.


>
>Only problem is that everything (well, nearly) is .Z compressed which means
>you need MacCompress - unless there's a way of making Fetch ask for the
>file without the .Z...
>

Adrian> Hmmm...I thought src.doc would do the uncompression for you if you just
Adrian> got the file with the .Z left off.

src.doc.ic.ac.uk:/README.ftp will give you more info on how to do
this.  Basically if you are a mac user login as anonymous and give a
passwd of + followed by your email address eg:
	+lmjm@doc.ic.ac.uk

The ftp daemon then automatically strips any trialing .Z's that it
finds when giving you a directory listing.  When you try and pull a
file that is really compressed the ftp daemon automatically
uncompresses it.  This works really well with Fetch.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.mac.sys.hardware
From: phrje@warwick.ac.uk (Dr D McK Paul)
Subject: Powerbook Windows
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:07:51 GMT

I've now got my 145 powerbook and it seems that it will be very useful.
Something about the screen is bothering me though. When I have a window open
there is a light shadow which extends above and below the window, all the way
to the menu bar sometimes depending on the exact position of the window. When
the window is selected and dragged the outline is vaguely noticeable above and
below as well. Is this a "feature" of the system for the powerbook or do I
have a problem. I know that this is not really serious but it is annoying.

Don
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From: pricec@mist.CS.ORST.EDU (price carl wayne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:51:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Aug30.035115.29124
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.

price> == price carl wayne <pricec@prism.CS.ORST.EDU> 

 price> OOPS, wrong again.  The 640kB barrier is in DOS, not the Intel
 price> hardware with a 32-bit OS, in my case OS/2, this limit *does not
 price> exist*.  I know.  In my computer right now there is 8MB of ram,
 price> and I assure you I need no tricks to access that memory.

>Sounds great.  How much software is there for OS/2?  How much of it
>takes advantage of the new user interface?  How likely is it that you
>can run software that was written in 1988, say, and have it still use
>all that 8M?

There is quite a few OS/2 commercial packages (around 1500) and there are
somewhere around 160 OS/2 2.0 commercial packages out there, more are 
written every day.  And for your info, I have no problem running software
written in 1988, be it DOS, Windows, or OS/2 software (yes, OS/2 will run
Windows software designed for the early versions of windows.), All of these
will run under WPS in windows.  For the DOS and Windows software, OS/2 has
DPMI, etc. for them to think that they can have this memory.  What's more
I can run 4 DOS windows, each one thinking they have 12MB of memory, and
never have a swap file that grows bigger than the standard 6MB unless one
of those programs actually needs the memory (some programs like to know they
have a lot of memory to use, even if they never use it.  It's something 
some programers do.)

So to answer your question.  All the software that I have that was written
before 1988 works.  A number of packages are available to run using the new
interface with many more being written (remember these features are new so
it will take time for a huge number of apps to be written, but major 
software companies are working on it.  i.e. Lotus, WP, Corel, Borland, etc.)

--Carl

Carl W. Price
pricec@prism.cs.orst.edu
From: an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Prince Of Persia DEMO: Where?
Date: 2 Sep 1992 19:59:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Could somone tell me the site and file name where I can get the
Prince of Persia demo on? Thanks a lot!
-- 
         Travis Grundke- Contributing Editor, MacGames Digest
                      an780@cleveland.freenet.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  
    MacGames Digest: The first magazine dedicated to Macintosh Gaming.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.amiga
From: jochenw@kaa.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Jochen Wolters)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcons $799... SIX MONTHS to Falcon emulator! 
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date:  4 Sep 92 13:39:32 GMT

jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Young) writes:

>People are FREE to choose any computer to use for ANY purpose
>and if Falcon is only computer fitting someone with $799 to
>spend then they will let money speak for them.

  Why, then, do I have this strange feeling that, although you
claim that everyone is free to choose, you still are trying
to convince quite a number of people, who are just as happy
with their machine as you will hopefully be with your Falcon,
of the superiority of that ATARI?! Can't you see that ob-
viously noone is really interested in the facts, since they
don't feel the need to buy a new computer? After all, this
thread might just as well develop into another useless flame
war, wasting a lot of bandwidth for nothing.

  As I said earlier, it is interesting to discuss about
other machine's features. But it be of no use
to keep up the old crap of "This is machine is definite-
ly better than that because(...)" (Most of the time "with the
same raw figures it is cheaper" seems to be put in the
place of that ellipsis) It's the user who decides which
machines does best what he -the user- wants it to do. That's
all there is to it. 

  Jochen.



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: kreme@nyx.cs.du.edu (Not A Random Name)
Subject: Powerbook 100 Enhancments
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 19:30:05 GMT

What is a good source for RAM, Batteries, and a modem for a Powerbook 100?

I checked with a dealer who wanted $400 to increase the RAM from 4 meg to
8 Meg, $200 for the Battery charger ($180?) and $90 for a battery.  If I
bought all that it would double the price of the computer!

I didn't even bother asking about the internal modem option.

Is there some decent source for the RAM or an extra battery?  (I don't
really need the charger, just an extra battery would be fine).

e-mail if possible please.


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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Friday, 28 Aug 1992 15:55:21 EDT
From: <REE700A@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Apology to EWright for violation of Internet Rules (Public)

+++++++ +++++++ +++++++ +++++++ +++++++ +++++++ +++++++ +++++++ +++++++

Subject: Re: Internet Rules & an appropriate apology (will post)
Message-Id: <REE700A.920828154815@maine.maine.EDU>
From:    REE700A@MAINE
To:      ewright@convex.com
Date:    Fri, 28 Aug 92 15:48:15 EDT

   I have not seen a copy of Internet rules & was not aware of any such
rule.  It is not mentioned in Netnews Etiquette on our system.  I do
sincerely apologize for violating such a protocol wrt your e-mail.  I do
wonder about your sensitivity to four letter words (I see one 8-letter
derivative of one) but that is an aside.  Despite the deserved apology re:
ettiquette, I do maintain my opinion, which is, of course my own.
   Jeff Andle

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay))
Subject: PowerBook 160: availability, price, etc.
Organization: The University of Texas System CHPC
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 04:24:54 GMT

OK, I am applying for an Apple Student Loan to get a PowerBook 145
from the MicroCenter here at the University of Texas. Actually, my
mother is applying since I am on a fellowship, and therefore technically
not "employed" ;-) She is about to send the form in for the requested
amount, but now I'm starting to wonder if I should apply for this amount.

I have been hearing that the PB 160 is going to come out at the 145 price.
What is the _source_ of this information? Does this mean that the PB 145
will drop in price? (I know it is not being discontinued.) I would hate
to take out a loan for a machine, and have a better machine (16 gray
shades, and ability to drive a color monitor easily) come out at
the same price 4 weeks later... 4 months, maybe, but not 4 weeks!

My questions are this: will the PB _definitely_ come out at the PB 145
price, or is this just myth? Is it definitely coming out on Oct. 19?
Can I order it _before_ that date? How soon will local MicroCenters know
what it's price will be?

Any email responses will be summarized and posted to the net.

Thanks!

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  Department of Astronomy         
  University of Texas at Austin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: undoin .cpt files?
From: marc@csufres.CSUFresno.EDU (Marc Matteo)
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:20:08 PDT
Organization: California State University, Fresno

The most up to date version of Stuffit Lite will "undo" .cpt files.  Compact
Pro is available from anywhere that Stuffit is (i.e. sumex, CIS, umich, etc.)

Marc.
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From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: PB100 deals - thanks everyone (& info if you want it)
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:48:03 GMT
Organization: Naff Green Shorts Dance Co.
In-reply-to: jtgorman@cs.arizona.edu's message of 3 Sep 92 07:40:49 GMT

In article <21539@optima.cs.arizona.edu> jtgorman@cs.arizona.edu (J. Taggart Gorman) writes:

     Has it occured to anyone else that Powerbook sightings are becoming the
   Elvis sightings of the computer world?

But the PowerBook 100 is STILL BEING MADE! I swear! You can see them inside
that WWII bomber on Mars!

Nick.
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From: marcus@sun.pcl.ac.uk (Marcus Harvey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
Date: 2 Sep 92 11:03:23 GMT
Organization: Polytechnic of Central London

In article <ewright.714941609@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
>In <92240.120751ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET> ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET writes:
>
>>See above. A device or program w/o documentation is no device or program.
>>It`s simply nonexistent for any practical purpose. If I depend on it
>>which is surely true in case of an OS I need doumentation i.e. pay cash.
>
>Um, why should you *need* documentation to use the operating system.
>Do you need documentation to drive your car?  Use your imagination 

Most of us need a number if instructive lessons with an expert and
a close study of the Highway Code booklet before being subjected to
a gruelling proficiency test. Perhaps Americans don't have to learn how
to drive (or shoot guns) ;-)

>for a moment. Imagine a distant, far-off land where computers are
>more like cars than PCs.  A land where you can turn on a computer
>and begin using it without ever opening a book.  A land called...
>Macintosh.
>
You really ought to think up a better analogy...

Marcus Harvey, Polytechnic of Central London IRS
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From: Rick.Zeman@p943.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Zeman)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Dev. Support
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 05:35:26 -0500

What's the applelink.apple.com address that I should email to get Apple to
send me the Developer Sign-up kit?  I was told dev.info@applelink.apple.com
but it bounced.  Tnx.
From: jeremyr@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Jeremy Roussak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Software that hides apps?
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:11:10 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

In <26AUG199218003427@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov> kayser@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Susan E. Kayser NSSDC/STX (301)513-1673) writes:

>In article <jobrien.26@umescsnw1.umd.edu>, jobrien@umescsnw1.umd.edu (JAMES M. O'BRIEN JR) writes...
>>I'm looking for a software package that allows access to an application
>>on a Mac in a LAB environment, but disallows copying, modifying, trashing
>>etc.  I have seen something like this but don't know its name
>>I'd appreciate any help.

>Possibly the new Apple extension, At Ease, is what you mean.  It substitutes
>for the Finder.  It should be available soon; I don't know the cost.

In the meantime, you could use my launcher, Apollo. If you tell
Apollo where a file is, then hide the file, Apollo will still
be able to launch it. Of course, by hiding the file (setting
its "invisible" bit with ResEdit or some such), you lose the
ability to launch it by double-clicking on one of its
documents.

Apollo is at sumex, /ex/apollo-08b4.hqx. Free until 1.0: then
shareware.

Jeremy
From: jmale@melpo.inria.fr (Jean-Michel Male)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Internal and External Hard Disks question
Date: 28 Aug 92 09:05:31 GMT
Reply-To: jmale@cosinus.inria.fr
Organization: INRIA Sophia Antipolis


	  Hello everybody.

	  Is there a kind soul by there that could explain
	  to me WHAT is there inside an external SCSI hard 
	  disk ? or better said, what is necessary to
	  convert an internal Hard Disk to an external one ?

          (I am speaking for the HDs for Macintoshes)

	  Thank you in advance for your help

PS:  You can answer either by mail or posting here.

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	Email: jmale@mirsa.inria.fr



(Mort aux vaches !)
From: stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: 32-bit Quickdraw INIT?
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:08:41 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: Murasami Labs

Nathan Gasser wrote:
> Vladimir Ivanovic writes:
> >Quicktime refuses to load because it's missing the 32-bit QuickDraw INIT.
> >Where does one get this beast?

> Go snitch it out of the system folder of a neighbor or co-worker.  Failing
> that, it should be loose on one of the system disks you got with the
> 7.0 software set.  Try "Tidbits" or something like that.  

Actually, it is buried on the Printing Tools disk. I'm not sure it will
work on a revamped plus, tho.

James - and I mean *buried*
From: klarson@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kris Larson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: A Petty Question
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:40:48 GMT
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server

Kind of a silly question, but one I'm compelled to ask...

Why is it that the little Mac logo on my startup screen ("Welcome to
Macintosh") no longer is in color?  I recently had the logic board replaced
on my LC (the sockets weren't holding my SIMMs in place), and since then
that logo has been black and white.  Can it be changed back?

Thanks!

--k
From: sxjcb@orca.alaska.edu (Jay C. Beavers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Non-Apple Postscript Printer Drivers
Date: 2 Sep 92 01:04:34 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: University of Alaska Computer Network


I'm trying to connect an IBM 4019 printer with 4 MB memory and a Postscript
option to a Mac IIsi via the serial port.  I've found the excellent driver
hacks labeled DMM Laserwriter Drivers v1.2.2 however I've failed to get
them to work so far.  I've tried a straight Laserwriter driver 7.1.1 with
only serial code enables and I've also tried the 7.1.1 driver with serial
code and
Mac Dictionary and Truetype engine removed.  Both seem to communicate to
the printer just fine but the job just runs in the 4019 for a long time and
then usually cancels out (or runs forever or one day, whichever is longer).

Is there something in the DMM utility that I've missed or perhaps another
utility that I should use?  Lexmark, the makers of the printer, say that
the Macintosh drivers are only included if you buy the additional Appletalk
package for another $350 list.

Thanks, jcb

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From: tiago@blade (Tiago Gons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: First Taligent Won't Run Existing Apps
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:36:14 GMT
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
: In <nigel.715395259@saturn> nigel@socs.uts.edu.au (Nigel Pearson) writes:
: >	1) MacOs already does this at times. You shove a disk in, and mouse
: >	   response, or file de-compression speed slows down.
: Yes, but with a preemptive operating system, that can happen *anytime*,
: not just at well-defined times, such as in response to a disk-insert
: event.

Pardon me, but only in pre-emptive os's this time is well-defined. In
non-preemptive os's it just depends on the particular set of processes 
which is running. A pre-emptive os can guarantee response time (in terms 
of updates of the mouse per second), which a non-preemptive can not.

: cycles sometime.  The only optimal solution is a dynamic (i.e., cooperative)
: solution.

No, the optimal one is a clairvoyant one, but that is also difficult to 
implement :-). Cooperative scheme's work only when all processes cooperate,
and this means that they have to be bug-free.

: >>Preemptive multitasking only works well for noninteractie, batch-oriented
: >>systems or interactive systems with multiple processors.  
: >	Bullshit.
: Oh, very clever.  That convinces me *completely*.

Well, I'm glad it does. Unix seems to work pretty well on single-processors
too.

Stephan Eggermont
stephan@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.amiga
From: rcstoeck@iiic.ethz.ch (Raymond Claude Stoecklin)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcons $799... WHO CARES! Just emulate it.
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 06:50:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.011600.20641@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rrumpf@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert Rumpf) writes:

>though...any chance you will develop other emulators (Mac in a PC, Atari in a 
>Mac....nah, forget that one, how about Amiga in a Mac?).
You guys must be kidding ! How do you want to write an emulator that runs
prgs written for a foreign cpu and os in a reasonable speed ?
If this was possible, I'd like to have a 486DX-Emulator for my A3000, please:-)
Or what about a Amiga-Emulator for the * C64 * that also handles blitter,
copper and paula access ?
I'm waiting :-)

>Bob
 Ray.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: jblue@mwunix.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue)
Subject: Re: How good is AutoDoubler?
Keywords: autodoubler
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:25:51 GMT

stu1d46@bmerh255.bnr.ca (Victor Koa) writes:

>In article <Btsx08.MnI@DMI.USherb.CA> martin@DMI.USherb.CA writes:
>>Hi, Autodoubler is a great peace of software. It works well on my LC. The
>>speed degradation is almost imperceptible when lunching compressed
>>applications (except for Canvas). The reliability is excellent. I never
>>add a problem like lossing data with AD.
>>
>Yeah!  I think Autodoubler's pretty cool too!
>Only thing is, I recently bought another hard drive, and now I have space to
>spare.  So I decided I could do without Autodoubler (until I fill the new HD
>up :-) ).  Unfortunately there is no easy way of weaning my old hard drive off
>of Autodoubler.  If I remove AD from my system, I have a hard drive full of
>Disk Doubler files.  Looks like I'll have to uncompress each and every file
>one at a time...If I really want to bother.

>Erik P. Trounce
>BNR doesn't even know I exist, so how could my views reflects theirs?


AutoDoubler (which is really working well on my PB100) coems with an an
application to extract files (I don't recall the name).  In this program you
select the file, FOLDER, or DISK you want to extract - so you can extract the
whole hard disk with a single mouse click.

Another wqay would be to copy your original hard disk to the other hard disk -
since the other one is not (I assume) auto-doubled, AutoDoubler will uncompress
all the files when placed on the second hard disk.

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