From: 9999sc01@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (Alexandre Khalil)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: Are Lebanese considered ARABS (J. LAWEN a LEB)
Date: 10 Jan 1993 23:21 CST
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In article <1993Jan10.213438.10060@ac.dal.ca>, bibr0027@ac.dal.ca writes...
>In article <1iqac5INNfuh@life.ai.mit.edu>, steel@gnu.ai.mit.edu (JLE) writes:
>> In article <1993Jan8.160737.10004@ac.dal.ca> bibr0027@ac.dal.ca writes:
>>>I am a Lebanese ..
>>>only....  What have the Arabs done for us, except force Palestians
>>>unto our land ...
>> 
>> OUR LAND?  From the article you just posted on soc.culture.jewish,
>> you show that YOU ARE A PALESTINIAN YOURSELF. Your family
>> migrated form Occupied Palesitne a couple of generations ago to Lebanon.
>> 
>In the article in SCJ, I suggested that my family migrated from
>Israel (or Palestine, what ever name you want to use),
>5 or 6 generations ago, implying that I might
>be of Jewish origin.  LAWEN might be a derivation of 'Levi', the family clang
>of Mosses.  Is there anything wrong coming from the holly land?  
>This is only a suggestion.  People did migrate and become part of the
>population long ago.  AND NOT THE OCCUPIED PALESTINE...get your facts
>straight.  
> 
>The Palestinians, I think want to gather pitty from the world.
>Who is forcing them to live in refuge camps.  The PLO and the
>Arab Legue (and other wealthy Arab nations), have enough money
>to house these Palestinians anywhere they please.  The PLO and the
>Palestinians have other intentions. (ie...with Israel).
> 
>THEY rebuilt Kuwait in 2-3 months....Palestinian Politics is not
>up to me to decide...Lebanese Politics IS.
> 
>  
>> The above people you are calling strangers to Lebanon are
>> more Lebanese than you.  At least they are of Palestinian blood, but
>> born on the SOIL of Lebanon, but you are of a Palestinian blood,
>> but born in Canada.
>> 
>EXCUSE me....no one is more Lebanese than I am.  My family and I have invested
>more time and effort into Lebanon, than anyone I know.  If it wasn't for people
>like us, returning ever 2-3 years, spending our vacations there, learning the
>culture, becoming and understanding the people, helping families get back
>onto their feet......we have NOT deserted the homeland.  Most people who leave
>NEVER go back.  What a shame, eh?  It is the most beautifull place on earth,
>even today...The bombed buildings, dirty streets etc do not have anything to
>do with its beauty.  It is the people of Lebanon, made up of the vast majority
>of religions...that give its beauty.....Even on your way home from the
>airport, that stinking smell has a sweet aroma to it.....a place you 
>can call home....strangers coming up to you and welcoming you home
>"Hammdallah ghal al-salammeee"
> 
>Who the hell are you mr. jle to say that these people are more Lebanese
>than I am.  You have the nerve....HA (What does your initials stand for?)
> 
>Most of them do not want to be Lebanese.  They are the Palestinians,
>and want to be Palestinians, and NOT Lebanese.  It is not up to me
>to decide if we should except them to becoming Lebanese.  The Armin
>population in Beirut were given citizenship.  It is up to the Lebanese
>government to decide.  I might have been born in CANADA,
>but my soul was born in LEBANON.  
> 
> 
>> I guess they have the right to say OUR LAND more than you.
>> 
>They can say what they please, No one has the rite to say "OUR LAND"
>more than I.
> 
>> Besides, the Palestinians are not made out of arabic tribal blood,
>> nor  they are all muslims.  You are a perfect example of a Palestinians.
>>  
>A perfect example of a Palestinian....haha....as if God himself put
>two diverse peoples in the same neighbourhood.  We are all of the
>same origins.....but presently I AM LEBANESE, and YES the Palestinians
>are my far distint cousins, maybe.  Who knows, maybe my great,great,great
>grandmother was of Irish orgin...what do you think?
> 
>> You said: your family came from Isarel a couple of generations
>> ago, we only disagree on the term you call the land of your folks.
>> 
>CORRECTION:  My family might have come from Israel 5-6 generations 
>ago or maybe even longer...MIGHT HAVE.
>We DISAGREE on many things....
>YES it is the land of my folks.....
>My greatgrand father didn't spend hard-acking labour in the states, and
>elsewhere to buy land in Lebanon, lots of land, to grow olive trees,
>to grow wheat to feed his family
>....for someone like you and others to take it away.
> 
>> jle
> 
>Your opinion is greatly appreciated.  Facts don't hold though. 
>Perhaps you were mistakened.  Sorry about the misunderstanding.
> 
> 
>John LAWEN
> 
>P.S.  What nationality are you of?  Just curious...I cannot presume anything
>around here....

  Guys, do us a favour: keep your discussion off soc.culture.lebanon

alex