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Newsgroups: ba.news.stats
Subject: Weekly USENET report for sat
Date: 24 Jan 93 18:01:06 GMT
Reply-To: usenet@sat.com
Organization: SAT Corp., Sunnyvale, CA


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From: root@pyramid.pyramid.com (Admin)
Newsgroups: ba.news.stats
Subject: Bay Area Statistics SUMMARY 93/01/27
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:06:41 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

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From: news@toaster.SFSU.EDU (news)
Newsgroups: ba.news.stats
Subject: Weekly USENET Report for ziploc
Date: 25 Jan 93 08:00:10 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: San Francisco State University

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Newsgroups: ba.news
From: claebaur@shell.portal.com (Tony S Annese)
Subject: Re: Man opens parking meters
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Distribution: ba
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 00:26:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.204344.6247@pony.Ingres.COM> gmcquary@Ingres.COM (George F. McQuary) writes:
>>>	I was visiting up in the city and got a ticket for not curbing my car
>>I don't think it justifies enforcing meaningless and little-
>>known statutes just to make up the revenues.  If not curbing your wheels in
>>a given situation is truly dangerous, they should be enforcing all the time,
>>otherwise, not at all.
>
>Take it to traffic court and complain to a judge. In most cases it will be
>thrown out. However, since most people would rather just send the money in
>the mail rather than show up to court even when they're right, they'll still 
>make a lot of money on this.


It's true that if you take it to court you will most likely win. I got a
speeding ticket and went to the driving school and the school had done a survey over a year (Jan90 to Jan91) and they found that 85% of the time if you take
the ticket to court you will win. The reason being is that the courtdate is
usually like 2 months after the ticket and the officer isnt allowed to bring
notes into court with him so he/she wont have as much knowledge of the ticket
as you will be(you can bring  notes) and most judges will throw a petty anty
ticket out because of the obscurity and lack of enforcement of such a fine.

--
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Tony Annese                                            claebaur@shell.portal.com
                                                  -or- claebaur@cup.portal.com
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Newsgroups: ba.news
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Man opens parking meters
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:04:16 GMT

claebaur@shell.portal.com (Tony S Annese) writes:
>It's true that if you take it to court you will most likely win. I got a
>speeding ticket and went to the driving school and the school had done a survey over a year (Jan90 to Jan91) and they found that 85% of the time if you take
>the ticket to court you will win. The reason being is that the courtdate is
>usually like 2 months after the ticket and the officer isnt allowed to bring
>notes into court with him so he/she wont have as much knowledge of the ticket
>as you will be(you can bring  notes) and most judges will throw a petty anty
>ticket out because of the obscurity and lack of enforcement of such a fine.

I think the SF parking stuff is not handled in the same kind of court as 
speeding tickets - I went to an "instant hearing" once at SF City Hall to
fight a ticket, and they don't bother trying to call in the officer who
wrote the ticket. The judge basically let me off on my word, on a ticket
for supposedly parking on the sidewalk when I never got a ticket on my
car and never recalled parking on a sidewalk. 

On the other hand, your odds in a hearing for a ticket where the cop has to 
show are different. You might get let off if the cop doesn't show. You might
try postponing iat the last minute. A traffic school instructor told me
he tried this - he effectively got the court date postponed nearly a year. 
He also went and took photos of the NO U TURN sign during day and evening 
(using different film sppeds so he could make the night shot really dark
and grainy...). The cop showed up and though the judge was impressed by the
photos the cop recounted the other illegal moves the guy had pulled before 
the U turn (backing up after a wrong right hand turn, backing across two
lanes of traffic though an intersection into a left turn lane so he could 
make the U turn). In this case the cop recalled it in detail nearly a year
later and the guy didn't get off. 

There is a book on fighting speeding tickets, I think published by Nolo
press. I guy I work with bought it and fought one and the cop didn't show
up in court so it was dismissed. 

BTW, back to the parking meter thread, I was at a party a SOMA apt. this 
weekend and saw the remnants of a parking meter being used as a kitchen
timer for cooking. So perhaps those busted meters can be recycled. :^) 
 
  - Malcolm 
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
From: tweek@netcom.com (Michael D. Maxfield)
Subject: Re: Current EBS procedures?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:11:07 GMT

In article <randall.728183809@seashore> randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:
>The EBS failed completely after the 1989 earthquake.  I never heard
>so much as one tone.  KCBS returned to the air a few minutes after 
>the quake, but there was no EBS announcement.  (Although they did make 
>some of their own emergency announcements, such as "please turn off your 
>gas if you smell something" etc.)

Anyone close to the source of this info?  God know I'm not... but:
I understand that the EBS was not activated at the request of ANY agency...
ie: no agency of authority - Federal, State, County or Local (although I do
believe I remember that the city of SF requested activation a few hours after
the quake) requested that it be activated.

Besides,  (enter snottass mood)  if anyone needed to be alerted that there
had been a quake, I don't think the duo-tone activation would have made them
any more alert than the shaking did.  I do believe that nay source of media
transmission (minus the HBO,Nick,etc) that people were in tune to, were either
doing the maximum that could be done in relaying the information either via
their own news departments, or by rebroadcasting another station on their 
frequency.  Most people know where to tune in at a time (or am I being 
over generous?) when news is required.  A friend of mine that will do anything
to avoid KGO will immediately tune there for info when a moderate quake hits.

Of course, then theres the other thing about SOME (no names here) stations.
When a 1.5 quake hits, whatever is running is pre-empted for the next half
hour to an hour for QUAKE STATUS REPORTS.  Not that this is a bad thing, but
once they have had calls from all points within 50-100 miles of them and it
appears that the strongest report is in Hayward and felt like a small thud 
there, do they need to continue with their pinpointing?

       tweek@netcom.com  tweek@tweekco.uucp  WWIVNet 5@5058  4@5056 
          I'd rather get my cable service from the phone company,
                than my phone service from the cable company.
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: Current EBS procedures?
Date: 28 Jan 93 07:17:01 GMT
Reply-To: eps@cs.sfsu.edu
Distribution: ba
Organization: San Francisco State University

In article <1993Jan27.224131.5328@netcom.com> ser@netcom.com
	(Steve Rubin) writes:
>At KARA & KLIV, we play the annoucement cart, then hit the EBS tone
>generator, then play the announcement cart again.  >

There's no reason one cart can't have two messages.  (Do we need
a FAQ posting that, among other things, explains how carts work?)

					-=EPS=-
From: Jawara@Applelink.Apple.COM (Ron Drake)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: KQED's Bill Moen...GONE!
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:12:20 GMT
Followup-To: ba.broadcast
Distribution: ca
Organization: Me, The Whole Me and Nothing But

I was born and raised in the Bay Area (I'm now forty).
KQED's Bill Moen, along with KPIX's Dave McElhatton and
Bill Hillman and KTVU's Pat McCormack, have been the
defining voices of Bay Area broadcasting for all those
years. I read this morning that KQED has unceremonious-
ly sacked Bill Moen. He IS the voice of KQED! It's fit-
ting that I should hear about this on the day that
Sears jettisoned its catalogue. FEH!
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
From: tweek@netcom.com (Michael D. Maxfield)
Subject: Re: Singing EBS test
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 06:15:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.052940.18418@netcom.com> figmo@netcom.com (Lynn Gold) writes:
>This EBS talk reminded me of something I heard way-back-when, as they say.
>The first station I ever got involved with had a copy of "The Singing
>EBS Test."  It ran approximately like this:
>[Humorous EBS script deleted]

That's better than the stock singing one from LA AIR FORCE.  Which reminds
me of what someone did years (about 12) ago at the college station I worked
at.  The person thought it would be funny to remake the EBS Activation Tape
(Not the test mind you) in the voice of Mickey Mouse.  Everything was in it..
as far as the legally required script goes... of course, about the same time,
the FCC was making it known that they didn't care too much for the musical
versions of the test.  I'd hate to see what they would have thought of that.
I'm just glad that there was never any EBS Activation due to the county being
overrun by an army of mice.

Another EBS test that always cracked me up... (Don't know if they truely
meant it to be funny or not) was the one KGO used to run a few years back
with the oriental style music, and the Mandrian and English script of the
test being said at the same time.

       tweek@netcom.com  tweek@tweekco.uucp  WWIVNet 5@5058  4@5056 
          I'd rather get my cable service from the phone company,
                than my phone service from the cable company.


Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
From: ser@netcom.com (Steve Rubin)
Subject: Re: Current EBS procedures?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:31:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.101346@kuttner.sfc.sony.com> weaver@kuttner.sfc.sony.com (Eric Weaver) writes:
>
>Santa Clara County has its own organization.  KSJX 1500 is the lead station,
>followed by KEEN and KLOK.  
>

This is interesting... Who is taking KEEN's place now that they are 
not on the air?

-- 
Steve Rubin				ser@netcom.com
KARA/KLIV, KJCC - San Jose		spam@anarky.tch.org
From: winter@Apple.COM (Patty Winter)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Current EBS procedures?
Date: 25 Jan 93 04:30:52 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

Nice to hear the EBS system actually being used for a change.
But I have a couple of questions about last week's flood-
warning alerts.

First let me mention that I heard three alerts in all. Two were 
on KCBS, and one was on KTVU rebroadcasting audio from KCBS.

Has KCBS replaced KNBR as the designated primary EBS station 
in this area? Or do subsidiary stations only slave themselves
to the primary station in case of a higher-level emergency?
I.e., are there degrees of EBS alerts, and this one was low
enough not to require everyone to use the same audio feed?
Is there still a level at which everyone but the primary
station goes off the air?


Patty

-- 

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Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
From: jim@specialix.com (Jim Maurer)
Subject: Re: Singing EBS test
Organization: Specialix Inc.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:35:17 GMT

tweek@netcom.com (Michael D. Maxfield) writes:

>Another EBS test that always cracked me up... (Don't know if they truely
>meant it to be funny or not) was the one KGO used to run a few years back
>with the oriental style music, and the Mandrian and English script of the
>test being said at the same time.

IMHO the best EBS test I've heard is the one KGO was using that had
a russian lady reading the test message.  She was in a ballet troupe
or something that was visiting San Francisco and was a guest on a
talk show and they persuaded her to record the test message.  I wonder
if they got her to record the *real* message.  It would be something to
hear about an incoming nuclear attack from a russian!
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
From: figmo@netcom.com (Lynn Gold)
Subject: Singing EBS test
Organization: The Burn the Candle at Both Ends Club
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:29:40 GMT

This EBS talk reminded me of something I heard way-back-when, as they say.
The first station I ever got involved with had a copy of "The Singing
EBS Test."  It ran approximately like this:

(SFX: FOUR BARS OF HIGH HAT DRUM BEATS; THE MALE VOICES JOIN IN ON THE
FIFTH BEAT)

SEVERAL MALE VOICES: 	THIS IS A TEST

(SFX: RIMSHOT)

			FOR THE NEXT SIXTY SECONDS,

			THIS STATION WILL CONDUCT A TEST

			OF THE EMERGENCY BROADCAST SYSTEM.

(SFX: 2 RIMSHOTS)

			THIS...

(SFX: RIMSHOT)

			IS ONLY...

(SFX: RIMSHOT)

			A TEST.

(SFX: 2 RIMSHOTS)

			YEAH.

(SFX: Pause for legal amount of time pause has to be, followed by a
sine wave playing "Mary Had a Little Lamb" but holding onto the top
note, which just happens to be the FCC's EBS frequency)

(SFX: TWO DRUMBEATS; MALE VOICES COME IN AT TAIL END OF SECOND BEAT)

			THIS HAS BEEN A TEST

			OF THE EMERGENCY BROADCAST SYSTEM

(SFX: FUNKY SAX; ANNOUNCER COMES IN SINGING AND READS AS IF HE'S ABOUT
TO BREAK UP LAUGHING)

ANNOUNCER:		YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH....
(Singing 
along at first)		

(speaking)		HAD THIS BEEN AN ACTUAL EMERGENCY, THE TONE

			YOU JUST HEARD WOULD HAVE BEEN FOLLOWED BY

			FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS ON WHERE TO TUNE TO FOR 

			MORE INFORMATION.

			THIS CONCLUDES THIS TEST OF THE

			EMERGENCY BROADCAST SYSTEM.

(SFX: Hanna-Barbera-style cadence, followed by a "QUACK!")

******************************************************************************

I posted this whole silly thing (at least as well as I could remember
it) because I'd dearly love a copy of it if anyone out there happens
to have it.  I've long since lost touch with the station where I first
heard it, and the last time I heard from anyone from there, it had
fallen into the cracks of oblivion. :-(

Thanks,

--Lynn

-- 
Lynn Gold				           figmo@netcom.com

Worst pickup line of the decade:
   "You're so cute, so pretty.  I've got the beer if you've got the
time, you know.  I've been all around the world.  Would you like to
see some human remains and intestines I have in the back of my van?"
From: ser@netcom.com (Steve Rubin)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: Current EBS procedures?
Date: 29 Jan 93 00:48:26 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1993Jan28.071701.22381@csus.edu> eps@cs.sfsu.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan27.224131.5328@netcom.com> ser@netcom.com
>	(Steve Rubin) writes:
>>At KARA & KLIV, we play the annoucement cart, then hit the EBS tone
>>generator, then play the announcement cart again.  >
>
>There's no reason one cart can't have two messages.  (Do we need
>a FAQ posting that, among other things, explains how carts work?)
>
>					-=EPS=-

huh?  Like I said, we play the annoucement cart, it stops and cues, and
then we play the next cut off of it.. which is the "This has been a test.."
blah...

I wasnt born yesterday...

-- 
Steve Rubin				ser@netcom.com
KARA/KLIV, KJCC - San Jose		spam@anarky.tch.org
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
From: weaver@kuttner.sfc.sony.com (Eric Weaver)
Subject: Re: Singing EBS test
Organization: SONY Advanced Video Technology Center San Jose, CA USA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:44:25 GMT


Sad to say, singing EBS tests or in fact ANY EBS test other than
"serious cold voice" are DEEPLY discouraged by the Powers What Be.

The philosophy is that EBS is expected to be for public safety-oriented
traffic, and things which detract from its status as a source of
"serious" information are a no-no.  At KDVS, and presumably at KROY
whence they got it, there was a silly beat-bebop EBS test which was  
eventually prohibited.  

Can't win 'em all...  
-- 
Eric Weaver  Sony AVTC  677 River Oaks Pkwy, MS 35  SJ CA 95134  408 944-4904
& Chief Engineer, KFJC 89.7 Foothill College, Los Altos Hills CA 94022
Xref: sparky ba.broadcast:363 rec.radio.noncomm:652
From: duncan@ravel.ati.com (Jim Duncan)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast,rec.radio.noncomm
Subject: Re: WARNING: FCC inspections
Date: 23 Jan 93 22:14:10 GMT
Reply-To: duncan@ravel.ati.com (Jim Duncan)
Organization: K-FOX 94.5 Classic Rock (KUFX, Gilroy-San Jose, California, USA)

In article <1993Jan22.162333.21653@kumr.lns.com> pozar@kumr.lns.com (Tim Pozar) writes:
>>> 
>>>    :-)  Gee, I wonder what prompted this?
>>> 
>   I know it wasn't this.... :-)
>
>                                  Tim

OK, I can't take this any longer...  Obviously, the KJCC incident may
have had something to do with this latest noncomm inspection blitz. The
idea immediately occurred to me after Eric W. at KFJC and others indicated
that the FCC had suddenly taken an interest in our local noncomms. 

This seems to be a pattern.  When our local EBS outlet got flaky some
time back,  the FCC fined them but then sent someone around to check
everyone else's EBS compliance shortly thereafter.     

-- 
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94.5 |...   |___|_____..duncan@ravel.ati.com  | Jim Duncan  
KUFX |          H                             | 408.297.5977   
********  \_____I_____/  37 3 10N/121 59 10W  **************
From: duncan@ravel.ati.com (Jim Duncan)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: Current EBS procedures?
Date: 28 Jan 93 07:09:53 GMT
Reply-To: duncan@ravel.ati.com (Jim Duncan)
Distribution: ba
Organization: K-FOX 94.5 Classic Rock (KUFX, Gilroy-San Jose, California, USA)

In article <1993Jan25.233113.28250@netcom.com> ser@netcom.com (Steve Rubin) writes:
>
>This is interesting... Who is taking KEEN's place now that they are 
>not on the air?
>
Good point.  I would suppose that there's just KLOK.  Next time I
fiddle with my EBS instructions, I'll have to take this into
consideration.   

-- 
K-FOX|      w  ["]                            | WA6MBV      
94.5 |...   |___|_____..duncan@ravel.ati.com  | Jim Duncan  
KUFX |          H                             | 408.297.5977   
********  \_____I_____/  37 3 10N/121 59 10W  **************
From: figmo@netcom.com (Lynn Gold)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: Singing EBS test
Date: 28 Jan 93 23:23:17 GMT
Organization: The Burn the Candle at Both Ends Club

In article <1993Jan28.173622.5208@netcom.com> edg@netcom.com (Ed Greenberg) writes:
>Oh Yeah!  
>
>I remember WLIR-FM (at 92.7 FM in stereo -- The Radio Station) in Garden
>City, Long Island, running the Singing EBS Test.  My recollection is
>that the FCC wasn't amused. 
>
>Anybody out there have some more WLIR lore to share?

YES!!!!!  If anything, they either got it from WVHC (my first station)
or WVHC got it from them.

A WVHC alumna named Kit Hunt was working there for a while.  One time
someone spoonerized her name on the air.  The story goes that she
wasn't working for WLIR-FM after that (although she eventually got
hired back on).

--Lynn

-- 
Lynn Gold				           figmo@netcom.com

Worst pickup line of the decade:
   "You're so cute, so pretty.  I've got the beer if you've got the
time, you know.  I've been all around the world.  Would you like to
see some human remains and intestines I have in the back of my van?"
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
From: prm@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (paul.r.mount)
Subject: Re: Current EBS procedures?
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:02:02 GMT


Question for broadcasters:  when a station runs an EBS test, do you
actually do more than what it sounds like to a listener:
which is play a cart that announces the test, and play a tone for
a few seconds, and make another announcement?

Because all it sounds like to the listener is a test to see if
the cart marked "eBS test" works!  Does anything make a listener
tune out faster than hearing "this is a test" (besides maybe
hearing Whitney Houston sing "If..." and you know it's that
song for the one millionth time)?


Xref: sparky ba.broadcast:360 rec.radio.noncomm:643
From: alizard@tweekco.uucp (A.Lizard)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast,rec.radio.noncomm
Subject: Re: WARNING: FCC inspections
Date: 21 Jan 93 10:11:22 GMT
Organization: Tweek-Com Systems BBS, Moraga, CA (510) 631-0615

pozar@kumr.lns.com (Tim Pozar) writes:

> weaver@kuttner.sfc.sony.com (Eric Weaver) writes:
> >In article <1993Jan16.162650.437@kumr.lns.com>, pozar@kumr.lns.com (Tim Poza
> >|>    And KALW this week.  Hmmm, just hitting the non-comms?
> >
> >As a matter of fact, yes.  She said they were doing a sweep of noncomms
> >to make the point to school administrations that in spite of budget cuts
> >they couldn't let their stations run improperly.
> 
>    :-)  Gee, I wonder what prompted this?
> 
>                             Tim

Noncommercial stations often present worldviews disliked by conservative
Republicans. Look at this as the last gasp of the George Bush 
Administration, doing the very last bit of damage they can before Clinton
appoints his own person to run the FCC.
A.Lizard

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