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From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Subject: Re: Rocket Roger, Enfant Terrible
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:08:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.160020.16072@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> g_waugaman@nac.enet.dec.com (Glenn R. Waugaman) writes:
>
>In article <28JUL92.15182791@vax.clarku.edu>, hhenderson@vax.clarku.edu writes...
>> 
>>It's just that Roger's behavior problems dismay me.  They indicate
>>the immaturity that is his tragic flaw. In many cases, his outbursts
>>are just plain stupid.  They are unbecoming of a future Hall of Famer
>>(no big deal to some people) but when they jeopardize the fortunes
>>of the Red Sox, they are unforgivable.
>
>I don't see anything particularly unusual about Clemens' behavior when you
>measure it against that of most baseball players......


	This arguement reminds me of how Bob Knight can do no wrong
	in the eyes of the typical Hoosier.  The end justifies the
	means...

	Someone mentioned that Clemens is the best pitcher in baseball.
	Is he really still?  I think he's slipping (at least that's
	a perception - I'm sure some numbers will prove me wrong)...

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From: dtate+@pitt.edu (David M Tate)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: All 6th-best team
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:00:37 GMT
Organization: Factors of Ys, Inc.

In article <1992Jul28.114624.8351@cs.umn.edu> niccum@cs.umn.edu (Tom Niccum) writes:
>In <3848@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> dtate+@pitt.edu (David M Tate) writes:
>>	1B	Kent Hrbek		Twins
>
>Sorry, but Kent "Buy a Vowel" Hrbek is a 10/5 man.

Gerry didn't put any restrictions on who could/couldn't be drafted, so I
didn't assume any.  If there were a 10/5 rule, then I couldn't get Hrbek, 
but I could get other good players who would left unprotected because of
having to protect players like Kelly Gruber.


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From: lsmith@cs.umn.edu (Lance "Not Here" Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: The End of an Era
Date: 24 Jul 92 00:31:19 GMT
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In article <dfgmd__@lynx.unm.edu> kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt Bose "of Biscayzee") writes:

[The report of the Ackmeisters released deleted.]

>No, it isn't true.  I won't believe it.  Maybe...maybe...the A's can pick him
>up?  Is he a good man in the clubhouse (maybe the VISITOR'S clubhouse...)?  Can
>he bring that special Carney Lansfordness to the Rangers' pen? Is he old enough

I know this was meant in fun, but I think the A's should pick up Acker. Two
reasons:

1) I love watching Gary "Steve Garvey's Love Child" Huckabay turn purple.
2) Can you find anyone better to pitch batting practice to Canseco and McGwire.
   Talk about getting into a groove. Maris's mark wouldn't be safe.
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 Prove it! Show us your work!  |  Mediots, the things that are not!
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From: tchan@ucselx.sdsu.edu (t c)
Subject: Re: Jerald Clark, stinker or stud? (was: Padres mid-season)
Organization: San Diego State University Computing Services
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 07:38:07 GMT

demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers) writes:

>In article <1992Jul23.234709.12998@ucselx.sdsu.edu> tchan@ucselx.sdsu.edu (t c) writes:

>>you seem to be pretty biased against Jerald Clark.

>That's because after many years and lots of chances, he *still* is
>a lousy outfielder, despite what Coleman and Monday claim, and he
>*still* can't hit.  He's 29 years old, for cryin' out loud, and
>just isn't a good ballplayer.  Ward/Stephenson aren't the answer
>long term, but Clark certainly isn't.  Get somebody who can play
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That was my point, Clark may not be the answer for the left field job
but Ward/Stephenson certainly aren't the solution either and perhaps worst 
than Clark.

>out there to try to win the division, or let Darrell Sherman or
>Dave Staton or somebody get major league experience.  Or dump
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Remember this is the first season Staton plays the outfield just like
Stephenson.
>Lefferts, Myers and Benito and sign Barry Bonds...

Good idea, but let's face it: if you were the GM of a team, what would you
give up for Myers or Benito or even Lefferts?
Benito is a cry baby who only think about himself and is the best of a weak
bunch of catchers.
Lefferts is pitching way over his head right now and is the benefiter of
a lot of run support.  All the loses he had are UGLY blow outs, remember the
season opener at the Murph? Ugly.  It seems that Montreal wants to trade
Lefferts for a hot young second baseman but the Pads are loaded with prospects
in that position in the farm.  What the Pads need is a speedy outfielder who
can give them some speed in the line up.  Barrry Bonds's nice to have but is
the management willing to spend the money?  Did you hear Lee Hamilton's comment
this morining? He said that the person that the Paders organization
needs to  fire is not Riddoch or McIlvaine but it is Tom Warner.  I just
dont think his group is willing to spend the big buck to bring a winning org.
to SD. 
>I do tend to rag on him, and it's not his fault that management
>plays him instead of a real ballplayer, but he's never been good
>either in the OF or at the plate.

>I'll stop now... feel free to get in the last word if you want...


>-- 
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From: djohnson@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (David Johnson)
Subject: Re: Wow, Cito changes the Jays' lineup!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:35:59 GMT

In article <Bs0n27.FL0@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> cjlee@laplace.waterloo.edu (Ironman) writes:
>Who says Cito doesn't change his lineup.  Check out the starting lineup
>for July 26, 1992:
>
>1.	ALOMAR		2B	<- Finally!  Alomar bats leadoff!
>2.	GRIFFIN		SS	<- Lee would have been a better choice
>3.	CARTER		1B	<- Hey, Carter is playing first base!!!
>4.	WINFIELD	DH	<- no change, good.
>5.	MALDONADO	LF	<- good
>6.	GRUBER		3B	<- batting .230, 8HR... (a strike-out man)
>7.	BORDERS		C	<- ok... batting .240, 9HR...
>8.	BELL		CF	<- Finally gets some playing time
>9.	DUCEY		RF	<- He should play 1B while Carter should
>				   remain in RF...  ah well..
>
>If anyone recalls, this is almost like my "dream" lineup.  hehehe...
>Does Cito read this newsgroup?
>
>Regulars not playing:	White, Lee, Kent, Olerud/Tabler (injured)

Cito rarely changes his lineup.  Bell, Griffin, Ducey and Myers had
about 15 ABs total in the 2 weeks prior to this rare occasion.  Why
Griffin is hitting second and why Cito decides to rest more than one
regular on the same day against a good team is beyond me.
From: JGARLITZ@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Fay Vincent ruling
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:42:51 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Today I read in the paper that the circuit court judge upheld Chicago's
block to move out of the Nation League West Division to the East Division.
I support Fay Vincent's decision to move Chicago and Atlanta to the East
Division.  Really....what business does Atlanta and Chicago have being in
the West Division?  Last that I knew from geography Atlanta is in the Eastern
part of the US.  Anyway I really don't understand why the West Division
teams are making a fuss about it unless they are worried about how that will
change the divisional powers.  Plus, wasn't the league spilt into two divsions
to ease the travel schedule so teams in the west played teams in the west most
of the time during the season.

-Paul Garlitz
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From: brian@elara.mitre.org (Brian Toothman)
Subject: Re: ARTIFICIAL TURF: EMBARASSMENT TO THE GAME
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA 01730
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:49:59 GMT

I find natural grass quite enjoyable to see, especially at the new ballpark
in Baltimore.  When I first walked into Orioles Park at Camden Yards, I was
in awe of the beauty of the stadium, especially the beautiful grass.  But once
the game began, I saw the bad side to natural grass.  It seemed like you had to
hit the fence to get a double because if a player hit the ball hard in one of the power
alleys, it just died in the grass giving the player only a single.  In my mind that
makes the game less exciting.

Conclusion:  Keep artificial turf, but only in the stadiums that have already been
built.  (i.e. The Cardinals, Royals, Reds, and Pirates)

Now domed stadiums are a different story.  The Metrodome seems like a nice
place to play baseball, but on the other hand the Astrodome really needs some
help, especially the dugouts.
-- 

Brian M. Toothman -- brian@elara.mitre.org

1990 World Champions -- The Cincinnati Reds
Do it again in '92
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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Strike 1 on Commissioner
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 17:48:51 GMT

In article <5117@transfer.stratus.com> jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com writes:
>In article <1992Jul24.101912@IASTATE.EDU> jkness@IASTATE.EDU (Joel K  
>Ness) writes:
>> >   The Cubs have been granted their request for a preliminary  
>injunction
>> 
>> What makes more sense Cubbie fans, Atlanta in the NL west or your Cubs?
>> This is really stupid!!!  Waaa  Waaaa
>> --
>
>Which city is closer to Pittsburgh, New York, Montreal, and the other
>Eastern cities?

Which city is closer to Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego, and the other
Western cities?

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
Committee to Elect Johnny Ray as Angels Second Baseman
Committee to Elect Mike Witt as Angels Ace
Committee to Elect Cookie Rojas as Angels Manager
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
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In rec.sport.baseball, mattel@auto-trol.com (Matt Telles) writes:

> >>Who wants him?
> >
> >He still plays an above-average 3B (offensively, at least, and
> >defensively he isn't *that* bad).  Perhaps the Mets would be willing
> >to give up Magadan?
> 
> If I thought Gorman had the skills to get Magadan for Boggs, I would kill you
> for making the suggestion in a public place :) :)

Wade Boggs in Shea stadium would not hit .260, even in his better years.  "May
finish this year at .300".  Yippee skip.  What will his road average be?  What
would his season average be playing half his games in Shea?

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From: wlarkin@panix.com (Ward Larkin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Sexy Baseball Players and Fraternities!!
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:41:13 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1992Jul21.030543.15722@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>Lordy, next thing you know the Scientologists are going to be posting.

I can't speak for nor against the "Church of Scientology", but of the
little that is worse than a lawyer, a wanna-be lawyer is one of them.
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From: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
Subject: Re: What makes a great leadoff?
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:55:14 GMT


In article <GRABINER.92Jul22183525@zariski.harvard.edu>  
grabiner@math.harvard.edu (David Grabiner) writes:

> Speed gets overrated; there is a long tradition of putting a fast player
> in the leadoff spot, even if he doesn't walk and has a poor stolen-base
> percentage.  (That's Harold Reynolds' problem; he would be a better
> leadoff hitter if he were never allowed to steal.)

It's not really a long tradition. There's an article from the 50's 
in Baseball Digest's aniiversary issue talking about lineup selection.
The 'conventional wisdom' of the day was that a leadoff hitter needed to get  
on base. This started changing in the 60's.

Compared to most baseball traditions, this is a new one.

john rickert
rickert@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
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From: mattel@auto-trol.com (Matt Telles)
Subject: Re: ARTIFICIAL TURF: EMBARASSMENT TO THE GAME
Organization: Auto-trol
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:56:08 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.145126.12334@trentu.ca> pyacm@trentu.ca (A Colin Morton) writes:
>In article <21JUL92.08541720@wums.wustl.edu> peirick_j@wums.wustl.edu writes:
>>Quick anecdote:  Rain delay here about three years ago.  Bob Costas and Mike
>>Shannon killing time during the shower.  Mike Shannon observes that since
>>the game is taking place on artificial turf with a new drainage system, the
>>delay after the rain stopped would be minimal.  Bob Costas responds that
>>yes it's true, and it's the beginning, middle, and end of the list of good 
>>things about artificial turf. 
>
>Doesn't Mile High Stadium in Denver, with real grass, have a
>state-of-the-art drainage system that works (theoretically) better than
>squeegying (?) artificial turf dry?  Doesn't this thing work even better
>when the field is tarped during the downfall?
>
>I recall hearing somthing about this a few years ago; I believe it
>involved physically suctioning the moisture down through the turf into
>drainage tiles.  Can somebody who knows better than I please explain
>this to me?
>

Why, in God's name, would Mile High Stadium have *any* drainage system?
Denver is in the middle of the desert!  We get less than 15 inches of rain a
*year*!

No, Mile High has no special drainage....

Matt

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From: phhill@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu (ROBERT HILL)
Subject: Re: Pedro Guerrero
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Keywords:  Cormier, Montreal
Reply-To: phhill@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu
Organization: The unofficial LSU news node
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:38:06 GMT
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In article <55349@olivea.atc.olivetti.com>, rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com 
(Russ Smith) writes...
>In article <UeP0Z6_00iUy41CpUi@andrew.cmu.edu> tf0y+@andrew.cmu.edu 
>(Todd Harris Fletcher) writes:
>
>>>Does anyone have any speculation as to whom the Cardinals are going to
>>protect?
>
>My guess for 14 and 15 would be Mark Clark and Stan Royer, so my list is
>as follows.>
> 
>Lankford
>Zeile
>Jose
>Pagnozzi
>Jordan
>Osborne
>Perez
>Olivares
>Tewksbury
>Carpenter
>Oquendo
>Pena
>Ericks
>Clark
>Royer
> 
>I'm not certain of teh contracts status for guys like Perry, Thompson,
>Hudler, Magrane, Bryn Smith etc., so one or more of them might have to
>be protected or released. I think the Cards will try to trade Cormier
>to Montreal prior to the draft. 

     There's no doubt the Expos would love to have Cormier to bring
in some fans, but I don't think they will be interested until after 
the draft. The Expos are going to have big problems trying to protect
their top prospects and Cormier wouldn't be one of their 15 best 
players. I think its more likely that they will wait until after the
draft and try to make a deal with whoever does draft Cormier away 
from the Cards (or deal with the Cards if Cormier isn't drafted).

Bob
From: dtate+@pitt.edu (David M Tate)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Dynamic Duos
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:30:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Factors of Ys, Inc.

In article <23083@oasys.dt.navy.mil> efindler@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Edward Findler) writes:

>Here are my humble attempts at answering:

>1.  Most Hits
>    Joe Jackson and Tris Speaker, Indians 1910?

Jackson and Eddie Collins managed 440 between them in 1920; that was the
closest they came.  There are 3 or 4 better pairs, as far as I know.

>2.  Most Doubles
>    Earl Webb and one teammate, 1936

None of Webb's teammates were really way up there.  I know of 3 different
pairs over 110...

>3.  Most Walks
>    Ted Williams and Vern Stephens

Excellent guess, but not quite.  Ted and Vern have what I think is the third
best total: 263 (Ted 162, Vern 101) in 1949.

>4.  Batter's Strikeouts
>    Rob Deer and Cecil Fielder, 1991

Hmm.  I compiled this list before the 1991 season, so I'd have to double-
check.  It's quite possible, now that I think of it.  (oops)

>    possibly Incaviglia and one Ranger in '87

Inky and Larry Parrish combined for 322 in '87, which ties for second (or
third, if Fielder and Deer really do hold the record now).

>5.  Stolen Bases
>    Vince Coleman and Ozzie or McGee '85

It was McGee.  110 and 56, respectively.  Second place is Ron LeFlore (97)
and Rodney Scott (63) in '80.

>6.  Sandy Koufax and Drysdale

A distant second, at 592 (Sandy 382, Don 210) in 1965.

Excellent guesses, though!  My compliments.

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      David M. Tate      | From my dugout sleep I fell into the Game
 dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu | And I crouched in the circle while my insides froze
 Randall 'Chico' Jarrell | One out from death, one hit from dreamt-of glory
"Death of a Pinch Hitter"| I woke to 'Strike One!' and the nightmare sliders...
From: acw@sbmsg1.UUCP (Alvin White)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Braves Fans
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:53:50 GMT
Reply-To: acw@sbmsg1.UUCP (Alvin White)
Organization: Southern Bell - MSG  Atlanta, Ga

In article <55126@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> poutsmaj@mace.cc.purdue.edu (unknown) writes:
>It is wonderful for Braves fans to see their team in first place in the 
>west, but before anyone starts talking too much just remember that winning
>streaks do not last forever.  The Braves WILL lose again.  The other teams
>in the division will win some games and lose some games as well.  Granted,
>the way things look now it appears that the Braves should be good enough
>to win enough games to take the division title again.  Stay optimistic but
>don't get too cocky yet.
>
>
>a humble twins fan
>paul


Ya' know, I like this guy.  I've been a Braves fan for 
twenty years so I do truly appreciate the success that
the Braves have had over the last two years.  I love
to see them win and hate to see them lose but I have
seen them lose a lot more than win.  Why can't we just
enjoy a good pennant race? I like to think that the
Braves will win because they are good, not because
anyone else will choke.  I think Braves and Reds fans
had better start thinking about the Padres.

Alvin White
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From: jimdean@bnr.ca (Jim Dean)
Subject: Re: Expos Schedule
Originator: jimdean@bcrks81
Reply-To: jimdean@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 12:26:40 GMT


> I will be in Montreal from July 29 to Aug 2.  Could someone please post the 
> Expos schedule for that
> time period.  I would like to catch a game or two if they are playing at
> home.  Thanks in advance,  DAVE

July 29, in St. Louis
July 30, Philadelphia at Montreal, 7:35 pm
July 31, Philadelphia at Montreal, 7:35 pm
 Aug 01, Philadelphia at Montreal, 7:35 pm
 Aug 02, Philadelphia at Montreal, 1:35 pm

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From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Subject: True Blue Brew Crew News
Originator: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:15:01 GMT

--Salty



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From: mcmath@csb1.nlm.nih.gov (Chuck McMath)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: pitching predictions wanted
Date: 21 Jul 92 11:44:09 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Distribution: na
Organization: MSD

In article <1992Jul20.201823.29689@zia.aoc.nrao.edu>,
dadler@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (David Adler) wrote:
> 
> 
>    Here's the scoop - I'm in a "standard" rotisserie league. I have
> Cal Eldred in the minors, and I'd like to bring him up. My two
> weakest categories are ERA and Ratio. The two pitchers I'm thinking
> of dropping are Chuck Finley and Bobby Witt.
> 
>    Any thoughts on these two guys? Is Finley EVER going to turn it
> around? I watched the game on ESPN last week - he looked like the
> Chucker of old for the first four innings, and then completely
> collapsed in the fifth. According to Gammons, he's over his toe
> injury - true? I just hate to give up on him (I have ALOT of
> patience!). 
> 
>    Bobby Witt looks good in streaks - but his Ratio is
> killing me. I hear he has gotten demoted to starter number 5, so
> will he get less starts? (which might actually be good....)
> 
>    Or am I being overly optimistic over Eldred's chances? He looked
> pretty good against the Yankees yesterday, and his Denver numbers
> are good....
> 
>    All opinions appreciated!
> 

I'm not familiar with Eldred, so take this with a grain of salt.

It seems to me that rookie pitchers - even those with good K/BB ratios -
have a difficult time adjusting to the majors.  Sure, there are exceptions
(Guzman and Mussina are two that come immediately to mind), but it appears
there is an adjustment process (ok, so I just thought of Fleming also). 
I'd stick with Finley, 'cuz he has a proven track record.  True, he has
sucked this year, but assuming he is finally over the toe injury, you'd
have to believe he will be regaining his form (unless he's totally thrown
off his motion, in which case bombs away!).

Witt seems just too prone to give up the W (tho he did great last night) to
keep active.  If he's their 5th starter, who are the first 4 (Ryan, Brown,
Guzman, and ?).  He's either 4th or 5th, I don't think it will have an
enormous difference on the number of starts he'll get at this point in the
season. 

Of course, I have Finley in one league (I traded Sanderson for him) and
Witt in another!

chuck

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