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From: schwager@cs.uiuc.edu (Mike Schwager)
Subject: Re: Cygnus Ed & Turbotext
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:07:03 GMT

barrett@scooby.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) writes:

>In article <schwager.718394960@mike.cs.uiuc.edu> schwager@cs.uiuc.edu (Mike Schwager) writes:
>>I use CygnusEd every day, and looked at the TurboText demo to see how well
>>I liked it.  I didn't see anything in TurboText that would make me want to
>>switch, and besides CygnusEd has (virtually) unlimited undo.

>	No, TurboText does not have unlimited undo yet, but it's "on the top
>of the list" according to the author.  On the other hand, TurboText has
>one advantage over CygnusEd -- you can view and edit your macro definitions.
>Even when you do a keyboard macro, TurboText converts it into an ARexx
>script that you can edit.  (Please correct me if I am wrong that CygnusEd
>has this limitation.)

This is definitely a fantastic advantage.  Sometimes I forget what I've got
macro-wise, and I end up making the same thing twice!  Or I want to change
it a little bit; with CygnusEd, you gotta do it all over.  And the macro
file is stored in non-ascii form, with no possible way to decipher it.
It's always annoyed me.

>	I can't wait for the next version.  The author has been very
>response to suggestions for improvement.

Sounds like if you can, the person looking for an editor might want to wait
just a little longer... or get TurboText now, and pay a little bit for an
upgrade when it's ready.  I will definitely look at it again when the undo
is ready.
-Mike
From: joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Finally got to play with an A4000
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 18:06:21 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)




Dan Barrett tells about some of the neat things about a 4000 he tried out:

[lots of neat observations removed for space]

>        The first thing I did was go into the Prefs drawer and try things
>out.  There are 2 new Preferences tools:  Locale (for setting language and
>country-specific parameters) and Sound (for beeps and sampled sound
>playback).  I noticed that several of the Preferences programs changed their
>look for (as far as I could tell) no real reason:  Time, Font, and

First, 3.0 is similar to 2.1, which is what I've been using (as a cert.
dev).   There are some good reasons for the changes.  #1 - they are all more
compliant to the new interface standards and they are all alike in
operation.  #2 - as for the Font prefs, there is a BIG reason.  Previously,
you could only use a font size that was already extant in your fonts:
directory.  There was no way to take advantage of scaleable font sizes.  The
new Font Prefs now uses the 2.0 font requestor and allows any font size,
regardless of what you have in fonts:.

Some of the controls are more logical and thurough.

[lots of other notes deleted]
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From: fihsu@athena.mit.edu (Hsu I-wei)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Avoid the Amiga 4000
Date: 11 Oct 92 07:16:19 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Oct9.205944.3074@news.iastate.edu>, barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
|> In article <copes.718604729@marsh> copes@cs.curtin.edu.au (Simon Cope) writes:
|> >barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
|> >>all resolution modes (except for the Super HiRes modes, which are limited in
|> >>color capability on the A3000 anyway) to be boosted to a high-quality 31Khz
|> >>display.  
|> >
|> >Or the Euro72 and Super72 modes.
|> 
|>    the Euro72 modes work fine with the display enhancer on the A3000 I use.
|> You have no clue about what you are talking about.

Excuse me, if you call him clueless because you think he made one mistake, WHAT
DOES THAT MAKE YOU? Euro72 hires interlaced does not get fixed correctly by
the A3000 display enhancer. You get this wavy effect which I consider more of
a nuisance than interlace flicker.

|>    BTW, I have not been able to find ANY low-radiation multisync monitors 
|> that can handle frequencies as low as 15Khz.  Some people do worry about 
|> low-freqency electromagnetic radiation from computer monitors, and the A4000
|> would force these people to use normal monitors that emit high amounts of
|> this radiation.  

NEC 3DS.  do you know what the difference is between an NEC 3DS and NEC 3D??
TAKE A GOOD GUESS.

|> >copes@cs.curtin.edu.au
|> 
|> ---
|> | Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu

Francis
From: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Finally got to play with an A4000
Date: 11 Oct 92 00:54:48 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Organization: BLAZEMONGER INCORPORATED

>In article <54564@dime.cs.umass.edu> barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) writes:
>>	A few of the Prefs programs had a scrolling list setup that looks a
>>bit like the ASL file requester.  Does GadTools now have a generic scrolling
>>list gadget?

In article <1992Oct10.160605.27355@nntp.uoregon.edu> ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu (Gregg Giles) writes:
>   If you mean a scroll bar, it's been in GadTools since V37 (at least).

	No, I mean a "scrolling list gadget" -- the whole thing.  That is, I
supply an array of strings, pass it to a Commodore-supplied function, and
the function returns the string which the user chose, without any extra
work on my part.

	Followups to c.s.a.programmer.

                                                        Dan

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From: wa1ee200@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Ho Ling Cherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Unix Window
Date: 11 Oct 92 04:31:37 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

Does anyone know about anyprogram that looks like UW (unix window)
for the amiga that can let me run multi session 
from home when hooking up to the school mainframe?
Thanks
...
Ling Cherd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: CONGRATULATIONS! CBM!
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:05:39 GMT
Reply-To: ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Distribution: world
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA
Keywords: ad english language mpc multimedia
Summary: It's an English thing, you wouldn't understand ;-)

In article <1992Oct13.205253.20121@rmece49.upr.clu.edu> raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Ricardo Hernandez | 802-36-4453) writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.132410.20429@zds-oem.zds.com>, benjamin@zds-oem.zds.com (Adam Benjamin) writes:
>[stuff deleted]
>
>|> Have you seen the MultiMedia Adds?  I just saw one in a PC rag (forget which
>|> one)  They are GOOD!  right in the middle of the page it says "The MPC Version
>|> of Multimedia May Cost More Than Ours.  But It's Harder To Use And Requires
>|> More Equiptment."  Heh heh, kick gates around yeah.  I Love it! 
> 
>   GREAT!  I got a question from 'English point of view' as it is not my
>first language:  "The MPC Version of Multimadia May Cost More Than Ours.
>But It's..." - I don't understand why the "..May Cost More Than Ours.." is
>supposed to be a good phrase to use.  Why not, "And also, it will cost you
>much less" or something.  
>
>   Must be my English.  If anyone can explain, thanks.

Hmmm, I guess this doesn't translate well (translate? whatever it is that
a non-native speaker does with a foreign language he/she knows).  Anyway,
in English this is a clever way to intensify the scorn of competitors'
products without using intense language.  It says, "Not only harder to use 
and requires more equipment, but it's even more expensive too!"

If you really want to know why this works: the ad headline follows a fairly 
standard formula for a nice, balanced remark, like "Billy may be unbelievably
rich, but he still has lunch in the company cafeteria and goes to church on
Sunday."  

That the latter part of the remark does not balance the former as expected, 
yet keeps to the form, is the twist that makes it a good gag.

(Yeah, you might figure some folks will gag on it :-) :-)

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employed by, not speaking for:              Commodore Business Machines Inc.
From: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: What is the default video mode of the A4000?
Date: 11 Oct 92 00:56:57 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Organization: BLAZEMONGER INCORPORATED

In article <1992Oct9.201532.771@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
> We can end this quickly, just by finding out once and for all what the
>default video mode of the A4000 is, as it comes out-of-the-box.

	I don't know about the A4000, but the default, out-of-the-box video
mode of the A3000 is an interlaced hires screen.  I don't see why Commodore
would mess with it.

                                                        Dan

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From: pilgrim@daimi.aau.dk (Jakob G}rdsted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: CONGRATULATIONS! CBM!
Keywords: ad english language mpc multimedia
Date: 16 Oct 92 08:32:10 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals) writes:

>Hmmm, I guess this doesn't translate well (translate? whatever it is that
>a non-native speaker does with a foreign language he/she knows).  Anyway,
>in English this is a clever way to intensify the scorn of competitors'
>products without using intense language.  It says, "Not only harder to use 
>and requires more equipment, but it's even more expensive too!"

Just to calm CBM folks down a little: English is not my native language,
however the point/humour in your add is received clearly by me, and to
elaborate further, none of the nonnative(?) speakers of english I know
had any problems with it. So if there is a problem, it is a very small
one.


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University of Aarhus, Jylland(!)|   .            .      . Cordless Life  .  .
 .  pilgrim@daimi.aau.dk   .    |          .    .    .     Pointless Mouse .
From: marcol@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Marco Lesmeister AEO)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 11:55:26 GMT
Subject: lharc for 2.0
Organization: HP-Sales Office-The Netherlands
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc

Since I use 2.0 in stead of 1.3, my lharc program doesn't work anymore.

I tried some other version (I think 1.40 from the amiga.physik.unizh.ch 
machine was the last one I tried), but also no luck.

Does anyone know where I can get a (PD via internet) version of lharc or 
another program that unarcs .lzh and .lha files that I can use with version 2.0?

I have lots of nice goodies I want to try out, but they are all .lha or .lzh 
files, and I can not use them!

PLEASE HELP!

Regards,

Marco Lesmeister
HP Netherlands.

P.S. Please send email, since I don't read the groups often.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Timothy Matthew Ciceran)
Subject: Re: Avoid the Amiga 4000
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:26:57 GMT

In article <schwager.718562760@mike.cs.uiuc.edu> schwager@cs.uiuc.edu
(Mike Schwager) writes:

>>While Marc does seem to be correct that you need a 15khz monitor, he says that
>>the C= Monitor is the only one that supports this.  This is also wrong, In a
>>recent tour through computer shopper i found dozens of them, including names
>>such as Nanao, Sony, Mitsubishi, NEC and others..

>Are the 15khz monitors much more expensive?

Generally speaking, these monitors are often cheaper. From what I understand,
CBM OEMs their 1950 and 1960 series monitors from AOC, which is an inexpensive
alternative. Higher-end Sony displays are an exception. In the end, 15KHz
support is only essential for using RGB-based video equipment (in which case
an additional 108x series monitor is more appropriate). The argument about
the quality of game displays is also quite obtuse. Personally, I find that
the promoted versions of lower resolutions are more attractive, even with
scan lines. Adjusting the screen dimensions eliminates the problem. Most
people will ultimately opt for a 640 x 400 or 640 x 480 non-interlaced
display anyway, making the scan rate issue rather moot.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: cobra@coyote.datalog.com (Ken Thompson)
Subject: Re: A4000!!!!!
Organization: Datalog Consulting, Tucson, AZ
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 04:09:16 GMT

thwang@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tommy Hwang) writes:

> P.S.  Some nice person convinced me that it may be to my advantage to
>       get a new Amiga instead of spending $300-$500 just to upgrade my
>       C=128.  

 
Consider that advice to be very accurate and timely.  The C128 is a nice 
machine (I have a complete C128 system...in the closet!), but it's 
brick-dumb, and EXPENSIVE compared to an Amiga.
 
Buy that person who recommended an Amiga to you a beverage...  :)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: 22black@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Martin E. Black)
Subject: Re: Reading SUN floppy disks
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 05:58:54 GMT

832root@gw.wmich.edu writes:

>Here at Western Michigan University, we have a bunch of nice Sun
>SparcStations in our computer lab.

>My question is this - is there any way to use an AMIGA floppy drive to
>READ (not write) a floppy disk that was formatted on a Sun.

>I'd like to download some things from an FTP site (which I can do on my
>Sun account), copy it onto the floppy, then bring it home to my trusty
>little Amiga and copy it onto my hard drive.  

A from being a student too. I can tell you Leonard installed a prog called
mntfloppy.  Do a man page on it.  It will create a directory in your account
and you can simply cp to it.  Of course you will have to use ibm format,
but that isn't a problem either.  mntfloppy supports ibm format.  Then do
a crossdos to your amiga.  If you are in the cs labs you will have to use
the flakey mcopy and such.

Martin


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: d1wizo@dtek.chalmers.se (Ola Lundkvist)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for `OpenDrawer' program... and a Workbench ARexx Port
Date: 8 Oct 92 10:42:42 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

After getting some comments and answers (thank you everyone) to my
question I'd like to make some more comments myself:
 
>In article <1992Oct7.150357.11171@daimi.aau.dk> pilgrim@daimi.aau.dk (Jakob  
>G}rdsted) writes:
>>   What I'm doing now, is 'Leave out'ing the drawers I need,  so I
>>only have to click them to open them, instead of opening the first
>>four drawers.
Gets a bit too messy for me to like it.

>>Wait, I have one last suggestion... leave your computer on, with a
>>screenblanker :-).
Unfortunately one has to reboot every now and then anyway.

siera@imada.ou.dk (Soeren Berg Hansen) writes:
>You could also make a drawer in the root with links to all the directories that  
>you want easy acces to. That won't mess up your pretty looking workbench with a  
>lot of icons on the screen!
That would help a bit but I'd still need to open my root drawer and
that second drawer manually.

>>matija@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Matija Milostnik) writes:
>>>What you really are looking for is an ARexx port for Workbench.  :-)
Yes that would of course make it easy to solve my problem as well as
open up lots of other possibilities also. So am I missing something
here or is there any reason for not making an ARexx port for
Workbench. Why then doesn't one exist already? Or isn't it at least
about time to do it now? (Hint hint Commodore!) (Is there maybe a new
discussion coming up here?)

>>>In other words, it cant be done now. What you can do is to get some 
>>>PD programs that let you 'record' mouse movement and then, on start
>>>up, play it back, thus opening your prefered drawer. 
[ A similar suggestion was made from peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com ]
[ (Dr Peter Kittel Germany) ]
Hmm, personally I don't like this idea. Mainly because this usually
means you can't move the mouse yourself before it has finished.
Besides I open up a (default) Public Screen with a Shell window and
another screen with a file utility in my startup-sequence and that
means that these screens pops up to front rather randomly when various
programs open windows and requesters on the different screens. And
sometimes I start using the Shell or the file utility before my
startup-sequence has finished...
 
Ola
--
Ola Lundkvist
d1wizo@dtek.chalmers.se                "Fuck reality - go virtual"
From: markus@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Markus Illenseer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Stuff It!!!!!
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:02:16 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Technische Fakultaet.

In article <unseen.719127293@mcl>, unseen@mcl.ucsb.edu (Invisible One) writes:
|> 
|> The Mac apparently has an archiver called StuffIt, which generates compressed
|> files with '.sit' extensions.  Can anyone direct to (preferably) an amiga
|> util to uncompress .sit files? If not, how about a Unix version? I've heard
|> reference to an 'unsit' for Unix, but I haven't seen the source for it.
|> 
|> Help? Anyone?

 Unsit is avail on ftp.uni-kl.de /pub/amiga/util/unsit.lha

Have fun.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: akerman@qucis.queensu.ca (Richard Akerman)
Subject: Re: Any BlackHole users out there>
X-Disclaimer: All opinions expressed herein were sent to me telepathically
              by Elvis from Mars.
Reply-To: akerman@qucis.queensu.ca (Richard Akerman)
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Queens Univ., Kingston, Ontario, Can.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:21:19 GMT

BlackHole crashed my machine twice so I dropped it on itself and deleted it.

-- 
Richard J. Akerman   | akerman@QUCIS.QueensU.Ca    |    "There is no plot."
Semi-competent       | akerman@QUCdnAst.BITNET     | -Guinan in Time's Arrow II 
 Graduate Student in Computer Science              |    Star Trek: The Next 
Queen's University, Kingston, Ontario, Canada      |        Generation
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy)
Subject: Re: "Family Values"...& vulgar programs!
Organization: Lakes Public Access
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 08:08:26 GMT

mustang@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Paul Christopher Miranda (I love Cheese)) writes:

> well,well,well...
> it's amazing how a brisk little debate can form just because
> I didn't giv much thought to the title of my post..:)
> 
> anyway.. the worst thing about demos is... they are utterly USELESS !!
> 
> I see hundreds and hundreds of demos that are the cutting edge of
> kill the OS and have fun with the hardware.. but they never amount to
> ANYTHING! .. usually the demos are just advertisements for parties
> so a bunch of people can get together to write more!
> 
> I see some real brilliance in the coding and ideas in _some_ demos
> but useful programs are never the result...
> 
> I wish they would all get together to make a game at least!
> as for bad language.. if its in a scroll i don't really care..
> i rarely see utility programs with bad language in them because
> the kind of people who use bad language in programming would
> never have the persistence to make a good utility..
> 
> I hope some master hacker proves me wrong and writes a really good
> VR program that runs on all amigas (even my 50 Mhz GVP 2000)
> 
> "I have feelings too, I just choose to  | Paul Miranda  likes cheese 
>  to hide them underneath bitter denial" | mustang@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
> -- Ms. Musso on "Parker Lewis" (FOX TV) | -- THIS SPACE FOR RENT -- 

You're missing the point.  Demos have as much purpose as art does.  
That's what they are:  multimedia art.  Programming _as_ an art, shall we 
say.  That's why you will see such persistance in the best ones:  you're 
dealing not so much with someone who is making a living, but someone who 
is expressing himself with his code.
From: seifert@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael S. Seifert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Any BlackHole users out there>
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:17:02 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Oct14.232119.565@qucis.queensu.ca> akerman@qucis.queensu.ca (Richard Akerman) writes:
>BlackHole crashed my machine twice so I dropped it on itself and deleted it.
>

I have just put blackhole on my machine, and dont want to part with it
now....  Do you have any idea what caused it to crash?

mike
From: cse_stu@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: AB20 on CDTV
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:30:29 -0600
Summary: Getting AB20 CD to work with CDTV
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University

I got the AB20 CD to work on the CDTV using ASIM and a werid setup. I booted up
to cli (no startup-sequence) then the mounted ASIM as CD1: and I stuck the AB20
CD in and the system crash requester comes up and I forget about it and go back
to cli and do a diskchange to CD1: and cd CD1: and everything works great as
long as I don't access CD0:. If I do the machine locks up. I have gotten parnet
to work with this setup. Does anyone know of a better way????
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Video Man
CSE_TEST@memstvx1.memst.edu
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