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From: zaidioa@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU (Omar A. Zaidi)
Subject: Re: IRC (was Re: SO met through the computer. Anyone else ?)
Reply-To: zaidioa@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:28:52 GMT

Well,
	My SO and I met as a result of this group. I had posted a message here
on April 20 and in my .sig I said if anyone wanted to finger me, there was the
address. I logged in here 2 days later to find mail from someone who I had
never heard of before. Needless to say, I was intrigued by the personality at
the other end of the line, so I replied and then issued a TALK req to her
machine. She answered and we spent an hour talking. 

	I discovered quickly that she and I had many things in common, but we
shared the same vision of what we wanted to make of our lives. At the time I
met her, she was in a relationship (long distance) but it was beginning to fall
apart. I was thee for her, to listen and offer what advice I could. Then,
school here ended and I had to go back home for the summer. Since long distance
logins are expensive, I got a modem and used an account close to home to email
and chat. I also did this from work, to the tune of 20 email messages a day at
times.

	We decided to meet after I went home. And I began counting the days. At
times, it seemed like an eternity.

	Then, on August 29, I flew back here to school and she flew in with me.
We met at gate h17 at Chicago O'Hare airport as I came off the plane. I had
seen pictures of her, so I knew right away who she was. It was the greatest
feeling to hold her in my arms after 4 months and a week. 

	She was everything she seemed like on the net except it was so real.

She was here for 12 days and she left yesterday. It's been hard getting used to
not having her here to hold, to talk to, to walk with, to sleep with.

I'm going to see her in a month and then in December she's coming here.

For those skeptics who think these things can't work. Jennifer and I have never
even once had an arguement or a fight. EVERY decision we made was by consensus
and it's so nice at long last to have a relationship where things are equal.

All the little shings I shared with her will last me a lifetime.


But, as she said to me before leaving yesterday 

"This is the tip of the iceberg. We have so much left to share. A whole
lifetime to do it too"

She's right.

And she's going to be an electrical engineer like me.

It takes one to know one.

:-)

cheers to all



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Terre Haute Indiana 47803-3999  |       but an infinitesmal part of that
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SEE NOTE BELOW			|	---original thought (4/29/1992)

Telephone number:

1-(812) 877-8715. leave a message for Omar if I'm not around.

e-mail addresses in order of preference:

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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: petitc@vccsouth03.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Re: Romance? Romance!
Reply-To: petitc@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 14:36:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.130955.25908@wisipc.weizmann.ac.il>, jhsegal@wiscon.weizmann.ac.il (Livy) writes:
|> Gee,I have an idea! What about posting some romantic things to this newsgroup?
|> I know that on the last period ROMANCE isn't exactly what you may find here,
|> but,you know,make an effort...huh? whaddaya say about it?
|> Thanks,folks
|> Livy

 Well, we could all post romantic stories.   How 'bout it?

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scarcity.
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: michael@gandalf.moria (Michael Haardt)
Subject: Re:  Love
Reply-To: u31b3hs@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Haardt)
Organization: An old and gray machine, somewhere in Moria.
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 20:58:29 +0100

In article <1992Sep4.000254.25724@tandon.com>, tdbear@tandon.com (Tom Barrett) writes:
> In article <1992Sep1.003337.18158@tandon.com> you write:
>>Oh, I'm sure it does... often though, my lovers simply don't
>>live up to ALL of my expectations.  They might satisfy my
>>intellectual needs, my social needs, my cuddling needs, my
>>sexual needs, etc., but maybe not ALL of those in one person.
> 
> To answer your question... no.  You (we) will *never* have all your needs met
> in one person and an attempt to do that will result in very unrealistic
> expectations that will. at best, create a large degree of uncomfort for you
> and your SO or more likely, will destroy the relationship.  It simply doesn't
> work that way and the sooner people realize this, the better off they'll be.
> This is one important reason to have friends.  To meet different needs.

I can only second that opinion.  Best what can happen is to find
someone, who meets lots of your needs, and personally I am happy to be 
such a lucky person :-)  But that doesn't change my relation to friends,
and it would be bad if that would happen.  The good thing for me is, she
thinks very similar to me in several points, so I like all her friends 
and she likes mine :-)

Michael "root"
--
Twiggs and root are a wonderful tree (tm) Twiggs and root :-)
From: frank@rniwi.rni.sub.org (Frank Mogaddedi)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: fantasies
Date: 8 Sep 92 07:31:00 GMT
Organization: Frank's Wild Unix

erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp) writes:

>Frank Mogaddedi (frank@rniwi.rni.sub.org) wrote:

>: >Well, it's the thought of my warm body hitting that cooooold snow before
>: >she can distract me enough for it not to matter... :)
>: 
>: Ed, I guess you just have to be distracted enough _before_ you hit the
>: snow.  I'm quite certain that this can be accomplished quite easily :-)

>Are you offering, Frank? :) :)

Hate to tell you, but I doubt you're my type. See your own quote :-)

>I'll tell you what I told a guy in San Francisco:  "You may have your mother's
>features, but you still have your father's fixtures!" :)

I didn't say that the accomplishment would have to be made by me. I would
prefer it, were it someone else :-)

I just remembered my SO and me playing around with some ice-cubes. I
remember that we were distracted enough that - well the ice mattered, but
it did not bother! Au contraire! Ever seen 9.5 weeks???

Take care, and don't get frostbite :-) :-) :-)

	Frank
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From: dayrton@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: =)
Date: 7 Sep 92 15:40:01 GMT
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <1992Sep4.134130.7973@news.ysu.edu>, ae498@yfn.ysu.edu (Dawn Bott) writes:
> 
> It's friday......
> 
> 
>                         ............I'm in love.


Good for you!!!   I couldn't pick you out of a crowd in a phone booth, but I'm
very happy for you just the same.   Have a sparkling day!
From: davros@ecst.csuchico.edu (Tyler Yip - UnixWeenie(tm))
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: SO met through the computer. Anyone else ?
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:35:32 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico

In article <1992Sep14.161151.24855@athena.mit.edu> zhu@athena.mit.edu (Erin Zhu) writes:
>Another hand here.  It started out as an email correspondence, turned
>into a phone and email "courtship" (the phone part was limited because
>we were 3000 miles apart), decided that we were in love about a month
>and half into the conversation (without meeting or even seeing
>pictures of each other, were we impulsive or _what_?), met in real
>life a month later when he flew over to see me, I flew to see him two
>weeks later (I had to finish finals), and moved in promptly.  It's
>been a year and half since we started corresponding, and we're still
>very much together.
>
>  --Erin
wow!  hmm...my cutie and I are planning a visit...I hope we turn out 
as good!  We met through Soc.Penpals, and stayed penpals for maybe a week.
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: zhu@athena.mit.edu (Erin Zhu)
Subject: Re: SO met through the computer. Anyone else ?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:50:44 GMT

In article <8b0y-hk@rpi.edu> petitc@rpi.edu writes:

>In article <1992Sep14.161151.24855@athena.mit.edu>,
>zhu@athena.mit.edu (Erin Zhu) writes:

>|> Another hand here.  It started out as an email correspondence, turned
>|> into a phone and email "courtship" (the phone part was limited because
>|> we were 3000 miles apart), decided that we were in love about a month
>|> and half into the conversation (without meeting or even seeing
>|> pictures of each other, were we impulsive or _what_?), met in real
>|> life a month later when he flew over to see me, I flew to see him two
>|> weeks later (I had to finish finals), and moved in promptly.  It's
>|> been a year and half since we started corresponding, and we're still
>|> very much together.
>|> 

>  One question:  How in the world can you fall in Love when you haven't even
>seen the person yet?

Simple answer: we fell in love for each other's personality,
character, interests, the way we both think on the numerous subjects
we discussed, etc, rather than more superficial things like how we
look (although we gave each other general descriptions of appearances,
of course). 

Can you say "Hopeless Romantic"?

  --Erin

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      872 Mass. Ave, #707         /   I rise with my red hair
      Cambridge, MA 02139         /   And I eat men like air.
      zhu@gevalt.mit.edu          /                     --Sylvia Plath

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: jim@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (james.a.malcolm)
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs Discussion list
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:29:25 GMT
Summary: my opinion



My view of most everything is different from the norm, so I
am moved to inflict my favorite romantic songs on the rest
of the readers.  Titles are approximate - if anyone really can't
locate one of these, send me mail.

Almost any song by Ann Murray but especially
"You Needed Me"
"Could I Have This Dance" (although it was written 15 or so years too
                           late for our wedding, my wife and I decided
                           that this is our song)

"I've Loved You More" by the quiet Beatle

"Muskrat Love" by the Captain and Tenille (what can I say - this subject)
"Rainbow Connection" by Kermit the Frog   (brings out the animal in me  )

My list of sad, bad, and unrequited love songs is much longer, but
that is another subject.

Jim
From: jbell@mihi.une.edu.au (Master of Puppets)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: PAIN!
Date: 14 Sep 1992 21:07:53 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
X-Unparseable-Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 12:07:13 GMT-10:00

mtompset@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Mark Tompsett):
> In article <eagle.716184850@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu> eagle@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel L'Hommedieu) writes:
>>jbell@mihi.une.edu.au (Master of Puppets) writes:
>>>well, life sux
>>>pain hurts
>>>and I wanna die
>>I hope you don't mean that last line.
> 
> Oh hope so too. Trust me, death sux too!
oh??
well, it looks more promising than life...

>>It really is true, what they say: once you forget about someone, and
>>quit looking for someone else, someone will pop into your life.  I'm
>>living proof of that one.
> 
> Sorry, but one person doesn't constitue a proof for me. Frankly, I've
> some cuter, younger, "sexier" guy. Do I sound negative? Well, that's because
> I'm a negative person. Yes, I realize that may contribute as to why, but
> if someone isn't willing to take a chance on me, then why should I change?
negative?
hell, I'm negative, and I cant agree more with you.....
move forward....BULL FUCKING SHIT!
I CANT!
and theres no one that would WANT to "pop" into my life.....
or that CAN
so why the fuck NOT die?



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| and realise you're living in those golden years         |     6247    |
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Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.sex,alt.sex.bondage
From: rsvanc00@mik.uky.edu (Randolph S. Vance)
Subject: Re: Fuck You
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 05:51:10 GMT

In <715829069.0.p00056@mail.psi.net> "Faustus" <p00056@mail.psi.net> writes:

*a bunch of Conspiracy Pink-Boy ranting and raving*
*all of which has been automatically appended to /dev/null*

Don't listen to gimps and spincter pink-boys like Faustus. The REAL
TRUTH is this: The FBI is cracking down on Skinhead Fascist Neo-Nazi
Klu Klux Klan race war instigating hate mongers. If the "freedom of
speech" were to be taken fully and literally, then people like
Charlie Manson and other Skinheads like Faustus could take a gun
and blow away groups of black people or any other ethnic minority
that they felt hatred against and GET AWAY WITH IT SCOT FREE,
under Faustus' definition of "freedom of speech".

I also noticed that Faustus didn't bother to try and flame
the quote by Oliver Wendell Holmes. Perhaps Faustus' limited
cranial capacity couldn't decipher it, or think of a crude
comeback. You can silence me and flame me all you want, Faustus,
but you'll never be able to silence the truth.

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              RSVANC00@mik.uky.edu
              RSVANC00@ukpr.uky.edu
              RSVANC00@ukcc.uky.edu

QUOTE: "Hatred can destroy in a second what it took love a
        lifetime to build."
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: ae498@yfn.ysu.edu (Dawn Bott)
Subject: Re: Romantic songs
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 23:10:37 GMT


okay....can you take one more sub-heading on this topic:


how about.....   Romantic songs for those in LDRs??


a few that come to mind:



"Weekend in New England"   Barry Manilow

"Nights are Forever without you"  England Dan and John For Coley

"Someday We'll Be Together"  Diana Ross and the Supremes


"Missing You"  Michael Bolton


i know there are tons.....but just a few here to get ya
started....

(I have been trying to put together a tape of them to send
to my LD-RP)

cheers!
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: SO met through the computer. Anyone else ?
From: cvadr009@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:48:15 PST
Distribution: alt
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvadr009

In article <1992Sep7.162520.16265@inesc.pt>, usenet@inesc.pt (USENET News System) writes:
> 
> 		Is there anyone else out there who met his/her SO through the
> 	computer ? It would be fun to hear similar cases.
> 
> ----
>  joao Pedro Martins, Lisboa, Portugal - jota@tutor.UUCP
>  
>  "Carpe Diem, she muttered, and laughed. We seize the day.	
>   Well, sometimes, the day seizes back !" (Psychodrome) 
-- 

I found a wonderful woman on the net at my own school... I have yet to meet her
in RL, but for now the VAX phone utility is our way of getting together. I
would be thankful for any advice about meeting an EL (Electronic Life) RP in 
Real Life.

We met by chance... I called an account I thought I knew... and spent the next
few hours chatting... I sent her a @--->--- or two... Several months later I
was surprised by a Vax phone call, it was her! She and I talked for hours and
have averaged three hours a day since then...

I have been amazed at how much emotion can be carried over the computer. We are
planning on meeting in RL for the first time later this month. My summer job
has kept me away from the area during the time we have spent on the computer.

I'm looking forward to meeting her, and at this point just need a few words of
encouragement... Its been hard to explain this to the non-computer people I am
in day to day contact with... and I'm surprised that I'm posting, but I feel
that this community will understand what I'm going through.

Thanks from Jason who is just babbling on at the keyboard...
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle)
Subject: Re: Proposal
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 16:57:03 GMT
Organization:  I'm part of a massive Blonde Conspiracy

In article <27691@life.ai.mit.edu> werpetin@gnu.ai.mit.edu (K.S. Werpetinski) writes:
>Is this romantic or what? ...
>
>There they sit, doing a jigsaw puzzle of a Victorian wedding scene,
>they are almost finished, but one piece is missing, he gets down on
>the floor and looks for the puzzle piece, he claims to have found it,
>gets up on bended knee, says mushy stuff about them being two pieces
>that fit together so well etc, gives her the ring, asks her to marry
>him, she says yes, they put the last puzzle piece in together.
>
>I'm engaged! *beam*

Wow, what a story! Congratulations!

>Katrina

   Tyger
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: jholtgra@afit.af.mil (Jeremy C. Holtgrave)
Subject: Re: Nice Guys?
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:55:39 GMT

In article <18qbciINN5r3@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> tlr@penguins.East.Sun.COM writes:
>
>I really don't think that "nice guys" are out in the cold.  Women could
>ask the same of men.  Why is it that they only "go after" bubble headed
>beach blondes with a figure that just won't quit (and nothing in that
 ^^^^^ ^^^^^^^

 Oh, so close to my favorite Don Henley song.  Don't you mean "bleach
 blonde"?  I guess "beach blonde" works, but "bleach bonde" is out for
 sure :^) 

>head but a bunch of peroxide)?  I really feel as if it is all in the
>perception.  You obviously haven't meet any of the right people for you
>hence, the feelings you are experiencing now.  Don't give up, there are
>people (of both sexes) who are asking these same questions and doing
>something about it.
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: drburne@eos.ncsu.edu (DALE ROBERT BURNETT)
Subject: Re: Nice Guys?
Originator: drburne@c00416-313mn.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: drburne@eos.ncsu.edu (DALE ROBERT BURNETT)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 19:07:40 GMT


diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) writes:


|> It sounds more like you have the proper attitude.  You are not
|> approaching each date *request* as if it is a life-or-death
|> situation, and your entire future rests on the person accepting
|> your offer.  A lot of NiceGuys who get turned down FEEL like
|> they are turned down by everyone, but usually the problem is
|> that (1) they are not asking a lot of people, and (2) they are
|> setting too much store by what the few they ask do. 
|> 
|> Most people who ARE successful use a rather shot-gun approach
|> to dating - rather like buying a new car - you don't set your
|> sights on a Ferrarri and ONLY a Ferrarri unless you can afford
|> it.  Those of us who are on the normal budget have a general
|> idea of the kind of car we want - then we test-drive all the
|> cars of that type and find the one we like BEST.  
|> 
|> Same with the dating game - you don't start out by "knowing"
|> all the traits you want in a life-partner, and only going after
|> the person who SEEMS to have those unless you want to be
|> disappointed.  You try LOTS of different people, and get to
|> know each one for their own good and bad points - and decide
|> which ones are ones you can live with and which you can't.
|> 
|> Then, as Dale says above - when you have the idea of what you
|> KNOW you can't compromise on - you STAND UP for yourself, and 
|> make sure that the other person KNOWS your views.  YOU are the
|> most important person FIRST.  
|> 
|> This does not mean demanding your way all the time, or 
|> becoming suicidal when the other person decides that you are
|> not right for THEM, however.  It means knowing where your 
|> boundaries are on issues, and what you can compromise on, and
|> ALSO acknowleging the other persons boundaries.
|> 
|> This takes practise - which goes back to the shot-gun approach
|> concept.  The more you do it, the easier it gets.
|> 
|> Diana
|> 



preach on!!
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: buick@belay (Patrick D. Buick)
Subject: Nice Girl(tm)
Organization: Belay Enterprises Inc. Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:06:47 GMT

I saw an article with the term NiceGirl(tm) in it... I kinda
like the way that looked in electronic print.  Gave me warm
fuzzies all over.... [Oohh... gigglee.. quit that.. it tickles!]

Hugs to everyone..

Patrick
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: ae498@yfn.ysu.edu (Dawn Bott)
Subject: Re: SO met through the computer. Anyone else ?
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:15:00 GMT


Christopher.....


"Beauty and the Beast" comes out on video October 30th.....


me thinks perhaps you should go rent it.


(it's okay if you believe you can't a have a relationship
 without physical beauty... but speaking as one of those 
 who fell in love with via the computer before i ever even
 got a picture...i know that if you fall in love with someone,
 they become more attractive automatically.  Maybe had i 
 seen m
 crowded room i wouldn't have gotten all flustered and
 weak in the knees [he being a stranger]....but now that
 I have come to know him.....i can't think of anyone i
 find *more* attractive.....)

well..except maybe Harrison Ford... ;)

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