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From: earle@poseur.JPL.NASA.GOV (Greg Earle - Sun JPL on-site Software Support)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Different versions of Doppelganger (Was: Curve's Cherry EP)
Summary: UK version
Keywords: Curve
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:52:17 GMT
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Organization: Sun Microsystems - JPL on-site Software Support

In article <1992Apr17.162913.13817@news.eng.convex.com> melton@convex.com (Mike Melton) writes:
>In article <MdviHb600VAvEWHF0B@andrew.cmu.edu> km4j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kip G. Moore) writes:
>>
>>I SPEAK YOUR EVERY WORD -- from the U.S. release of "Doppelganger"
>
>Seems that there are at least three different versions of Doppelganger out 
>there. The version I own has "Clipped" on it, not "I speak your every word,"
>and yet another version I've seen in stores does not have any additional
>tracks from previous EPs.

The UK Doppleganger CD (apparently exactly the same as the UK LP) contains

1. Already Yours
2. Horror Head
3. Wish You Dead
4. Doppleganger
5. Lillies Dying
6. Ice That Melts The Tips
7. Split Into Fractions
8. Think & Act
9. Fait Accompli
10. Sandpit

The CD5 single of "Fait Accompli" contains 2 (3?) non-album tracks besides the
title track; but maddeningly, the 12" of "Fait Accompli" instead substitutes
live versions of 2 songs for the above 2 (or 3) non-album tracks.  I think one
of the live tracks is "Coast Is Clear" and the other is "Die Like A Dog", but
I'm at work and the 12" is at home.

-- 
	- Greg Earle			| Disclaimer: I would be just as
	  Sun Los Angeles		| mortified if Sun thought I was
	  JPL on-site Software Support	| speaking for the company as Sun is at
	  earle@poseur.JPL.NASA.GOV	| the thought of me speaking for it.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: chungkuo@ais.org (Shawn FitzGerald)
Subject: Re: Best Pogues? Most Erotic Alternative Music?
Organization: UMCC
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 00:45:34 GMT

Erotic music:

I don't know about anyone else, but the thing that leaps to mind is the
Sundays (Harriet's voice is very...well). That and, Type O Negative, "Slow
Deep and Hard", while probably more suited to alt.angst is still way cool.
Check out:

Unsuccesfully coping with the natural beauty of infidelity
Glass Walls of Limbo (dance mix)
The Misinterpretation of Silence and its Disasterous Consequences


-- 
   Shawn FitzGerald           |   chungkuo@ais.org
   (Rational Romantic         |   University of Michigan
    Mystic Cynical Idealist)  |   Computing Club
"I love you so I keep dreaming . . ." -Bananas, _The House of Blue Leaves_
From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Weird Al does Nirvana
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Keywords: chuckle
Date: 11 Apr 92 03:17:47 GMT

In article <kuca80INN8j6@spim.mips.com> lkvarda@mips.com (Lisa Kvarda) writes:
>
>Anyone heard Weird Al's version of Smells Like Teen Spirit?

   Well, it had to happen.
   I heard it.  It was hilarious the first time.  funny the second, and
    a third time makes me say "Isn't this going to get old VERY quick?"

   A TRUE TRUE mark of fame:  when Weird Al does a parody of your song.

   The cover is pretty funny.  It has Weird Al inside a swimming pool
   a la Nevermind baby except there is a powdered doughnut on the hook
  instead of a dollar bill.

   The back is almost IDENTICAL to the back-front cover of Nevermind, where
   all the band members are in mid motion, except Weird Al just got
    three "Seattle-looking" guys to be distorted with Weird Al, himself,
    in clear focus.

  The single is called "Smells like Nirvana" and it is in VERY SIMILAR font
    on the front cover as Nevermind.

   Well, after we all become sick of THIS in a week, I think Nirvana will
    be happy and sad....

   Happy because Weird Al's little endeavor will only make Nirvana's album
    sell even MORE copies...... but isn't that what Nirvana DOES and
    DOESN'T want at the same time?   Ok, it's getting confusing.

                                                          K!z!K
From: nieder@iesd.auc.dk (Jesper Niedermann)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Nirv_bloody_ana
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:22:41 GMT
	<cjmoran.702744763@unix2.tcd.ie>
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, University of Aalborg

>>>>> On 8 Apr 92 14:52:43 GMT, cjmoran@unix2.tcd.ie (Ben Dover) said:
Ben> Nntp-Posting-Host: unix2.tcd.ie

Ben> In <NIEDER.92Apr7162757@sule.iesd.auc.dk> nieder@iesd.auc.dk (Jesper Niedermann) writes:


Ben> fuck you 
Ben> fuck you 
Ben> FUCK YOU ASSHOLE
Ben> JESPER YOU PENIS FACED SHITHEAD

Hehe :-)

You are very funny. It's one of the most beautiful flames I have ever
seen, I love the way you start with Lower Case, and proceed to Upper
case. I laughed when aloud when I saw this.

Hope you don't think you have provoked me, it's not that easy. :-)

You must understand though that lots of people do find this provoking,
so perhaps Email? But ok, I've got your point. You don't like me.
From: JLP118@psuvm.psu.edu (Joanna Pinola)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Nine Inch Nails
Date: 11 Apr 92 00:28:59 GMT
Organization: State Pen University

Does anyone know anything about the new NIN album if it does in fact exist?

Ditto goes for new Ministry.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: lclayton@uhuru.uchicago.edu (Liz Clayton)
Subject: Re: Too Much Joy
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 22:15:21 GMT

TMJ are currently in the studios working on the fourth album. They're hoping 
for a late summer release, but you know how THAT goes..

PS: Hi! I'm the one that sent you that live tape awhile back. Small world.

Xref: sparky alt.music.alternative:2770 alt.emusic:51
From: bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce Becker)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.emusic
Subject: Re: Alternative Music Press
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:23:00 GMT
Organization: G. T. S., Toronto, Ontario

In article <malcolm.701391056@wrs.com> malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
|jcr@mbunix.mitre.org (Rogers) writes:
|>Where are the best (off-line) places to read about your favorite weird
|>and off-beat (or merely new) bands?
|
|For the kind of weird progressive rock/jazz/improv stuff I like WAYSIDE
|MUSIC's mailorder catalog is like an oxygen tank found down in the
|murky depths just as I'm about to drown in the mud. Actually the reviews
|are minimal and any other info content practically non-existant, but it's
|still one of the places I found out about releases that I never even see in 
|the local stores. 


	post the address please - rumor has it
	they may be out of business


|Used to be SOUND CHOICE and OPTION were two mags filled with loads of
|reviews of indie releases and cassettes, but OPTION has gotten pretty 
|slick and less diverse and I haven't seen SOUND CHOICE for a long time. 


	option mostly sux, and sound choice just
	mailed out their LAST ISSUE (#17), sob


	foreced exposure is well worth checking out
	if it is still around, and factsheet five
	has somewhat the same emphasis (+ look&feel)
	as sound choice


	I'm told that cadence is also useful but I
	haven't seen it myself


|Based on the last issue having 3 cover stories that were all music related
|I'd say MONDO 2000 is edging into the trendy alt-music mag scene. 


	fairly superficial stuff (imho) for the most part


-- 
  ,u,	 Bruce Becker			Toronto, Ontario
a /i/	 Internet: bdb@becker.gts.org	Uucp: ...!lsuc!becker!bdb
 `\o\-e	 "James Brown, Mark Hosler, Al Jourgenson.
 _< /_	 			Coincidence or conspiracy?" - pashdown
From: feit@acsu.buffalo.edu (Elissa Feit)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: David Byrne RUMOUR?!?!? AND Black Flag question
Keywords: black flag, rollins, byrne
Date: 5 Apr 92 08:21:54 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

In article <31620@darkstar.ucsc.edu> bluemax@ucscb.ucsc.edu writes:
>
>I hate to post a rumour from such a vague source as a FOAF, but I
>heard that in an interview David Byrne mentioned things suggesting
>that he was a white supremist. 

What did you hear?  I'd be surprised because he's worked with a lot 
of musicians of color over the years. More recently he produced an
album of brazilian musicians.

also, here I'm reading the liner notes from his recent cd The Forest,
where he speaks about becoming aware of one's own prejudices and
biases.  No, he's not a white supremist if he's looking for
awareness. Racists are NOT aware of their prejucides - they
*BELIEVE* them.

Speaking of white supremicists: can anyone tell me what the
meaning of the Black Flag song "White Minority" is? It sounds like
a-be-afraid-because -us-whites-re-gonna-be-outnumbered song.
I mean, were they serious?


Elissa Feit (feit@cs.buffalo.edu // {rutgers,uunet}!cs.buffalo.edu!feit)
 No  no  no don't stop, I mean, I must be dreaming,  I'll just hold you
 I'm just about to drop, you thrill me with your screaming, I adore you
                                                  - The Wedding Present
From: memaso@uta.fi (Markku Sorto)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: THE SWANS
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:14:07 GMT
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

In article <1992Apr6.201650.24334@bnr.ca>, lisakd@bnr.ca (Darko Lisak) writes: 
> I remember a cover version of'Love Will Tear Us Apart'being done by,believe 
> or not,Paul Young.I think it was a live version or something.Has anyone heard
> of any other Joy Division songs being covered.

Yeah I remember when I first heard that...terrible! I almost strangled myself.
P.Young's music is lousy enough,but after he covered LWTUA I have not been able
to forgive him. I have also heard that Grace Jones has covered 'She's Lost
Control' on one of her singles B-sides. And there is a full album of JD covers
by some unknown artists called 'Something about Joy'.

Tumpa
From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Discography of Big Black??
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:26:23 GMT

In article <odrYJce00WBK44A6cb@andrew.cmu.edu> jbbb+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joshua John Buergel) writes:
>Well, heck.  I'll post it, if for no other reason than because I'd love
>to hear about changes people have of this.  It's not really formalized
>yet (it's all in my head), and if there's anything missing, please add
>to it...
>
>Lungs (debut EP, very rare)
>Bulldozer (EP, also very rare)
>Racer X (EP)
> The Hammer Party (Collects the above three EPs on one CD or cassette.
>Vinyl version lacks Racer X)
>Atomizer (LP, best work they've done, IMHO)
>Headache (EP, one really rare version came in this spiffy leather bag)
>Hearbeat b/w Things To Do Today (7")
> The Rich Man's Eight Track Tape (Collects the above three poducts on
>CD.  Not sure about other formats)
>Songs About Fucking (LP.  CD contains He's A Whore 7")
>The Model b/w He's A Whore (7".  He's A Whore is a Cheap Trick cover,
>and The Model is a Kraftwerk cover)
>Il Duce b/w Big Money (7")

    HEY, don't forget "Heartbeat" is a WIRE cover!

                                                        K!z!K
From: tclark@Apple.COM (Tom Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Breeders EP
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:16:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA


The new Breeders EP is being released today (4/10) in the US.


tc
From: ebm@corvair.almaden.ibm.com (Eli Messinger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Musical Intelligence (Was: Alternative radio stations)
Date: 7 Apr 92 04:19:30 GMT
Organization: Pandora's Box

M. COOPER / B. McQUAID...

> 	Yes, because they weren't the original composers of the
> songs, and therefore, the songs are not genuine emotional state-
> ments.  Remakes are bullshit, as far as integrity.  That doesn't
> mean that they're no good, but it does mean that they are impure
> statements, and as such cannot ever represent any pinnacle of
> musical talent or genius, unless you believe that music is not
> a product of emotion, which I don't.

Milo, meet Harry Stanley Marshall:

"Music is about self-expression and you can't express yourself unless you
write it."       --Harry Stanley Marshall, July 18, 1990

Harry, meet Milo.  It think you two will have a lot to agree on.
--
	      "Phish is good."  --James Treworgy, March 18, 1992
       CSNET: ebm@almaden.ibm.com / UUNET: ...!uunet!almaden.ibm.com!ebm
From: mbutler@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (M. COOPER / B. McQUAID)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Traditions in College Radio
Date: 7 Apr 92 01:55:30 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1602@rufus.UUCP> ebm@corvair.almaden.ibm.com (Eli Messinger) writes:
-" M. COOPER / B. McQUAID...
-" 
-" > 	You've got me on broadcasting credentials.  It's too bad
-" > that, despite such experience, you advocate polluting the "under-
-" > ground" with the above ground.  So much for an old-pro.
-" 
-" And too bad you don't have any experience at being part of the underground
-" of radio... it looks a lot different from the inside than you seem to think
-" it does.  I strongly suggest that if you dislike the ideas some of us
-" working in non-commercial radio are advocating, then you do like we do,
-" volunteer your time and help steer it in the direction you think it should go.
-" 
	By having this discussion, that's what I'm doing.

-" It's too bad you don't seem to understand that your dream of an objective
-" standard of "pollution" isn't shared by the rest of us.

	If I didn't understand, would I have replied to your posts?

					- MILO D. COOPER  '92
					-Negro Extraordinaire
-- 
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From: williams@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Kent Williams)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: nirvana
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:14:51 GMT

From article <1992Apr6.181413.2146@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, by 
bt195@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chris Paul Cole):
> Also, along the same lines, Cobain was quoted in Rollong Stone this month as
> saying  something to the effect that he did do NOT expect to get this big,
> and that he did NOT WANT to get this big...  WHY does Nirvana want to stay
> waway from FAME??? I just don't understand....

Because I think that what he really likes to do is to make records and
play shows.  That's why guys like him do it; I don't know about Nelson ...

Also Cobain has always positioned himself outside the mainstream.
It's a contradiction to be #1 on the Billboard Top 100 and to be
outside the mainstream, and he knows it.  Nirvana has a Hobson's
choice between making Nevermind again, and being dismissed by the
people whose opinions they care about, and making something really
irritating and pissing off their record company, alienating all the
fans for whom 'Nevermind' was their first 'alternative' records.

And another thing -- you get too successful, and the backlash sets in.
We've certainly seen that in this newsgroup.  The fame machine
swallows people whole, grinds them up, shits them out and flushes them
down without another thought.


--
Kent Williams         | "Do you see your cerebellum as a lightbulb or a cog? I
williams@cs.uiowa.edu | saw mine as gristle so I fed it to the dog. But it 
Quote: Bevis Frond    | taste so bad, that she left it in the bowl ..."
From: dunl@ellis.uchicago.edu (john  dunlevy)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Option magazine
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:49:53 GMT
Reply-To: dunl@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

I heard that Option Magazine reviews all music it receives.
Anyone know anything more about it? Where to get it?
An address...?

-dunl@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tuesday, 14 Apr 1992 14:18:18 EDT
From: <MAC139@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Cure origins

Originally the band, featuring Robert Smith, Lol, Porl Thompson, the original
bassist, and a few others from school formed a band called Malice. They went
through a bunch of singers and styles until finally everyone left except Robert
and Lol and the original bassist. They tried to find a name for the band and
one night they came up with a song Lol had written called Easy Cure. They kept
that for a while until Robert decided they needed something with 'the' in the
beginning; most groups at the time had that prefix and he thought it sounded
more "it." So, The Cure was born.
That's the short history. If you're really interested in hearing about Cure
history, I recommend the book Ten Imaginary Years, by Robert Smith and a couple
of music writers. It documents their entire career up to Kiss Me, and is an
excellent and amusing look at how they developed. It's hard to find here in the
US but if you can grab it, do so. I got mine several years ago in a record
store in a mall, and the above history is what I can remember from it. Dis-
claimer: I haven't read it in a while so I'm sure I left out a few obscure
things. For a very complete story, read the book.
--Brian P.
From: flamengo@wpi.WPI.EDU (Lourenco William Dantas)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: boston bands
Keywords: ping pong
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:12:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: wpi.1992Apr6.191239.17943
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute

In article <rhgh6INNq7i@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> joneil@heretix.East.Sun.COM writes:
>check out the follow boston bands:
>
>	HERETIX
>	0-POSTIVE
>	TRIBE
>
>all are on major labels.
>
>THESE BANDS ARE WAY COOL !!!
>
>trust me, on this one kids.
>
>the seattle sounds sucks,BOSTON RULES, the best local scene in the u.s.a.
>	 

	I definitely agree. 

	Plus, let us not forget THE MIGHTY MIGHTY BOSSTONES, who are on
	the independent label Taang!. For those of you  out there
	who have never heard of them, maybe you have seen them on a 	
	Chuck Taylor Converse ad on tv not too long ago.

	LOU.
From: marquatj@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tom Marquardt)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Cracker - Debut Album
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:58:00 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

Has anyone bought the debut album by Cracker.  I really like the song 
Teen Angst.  I am afraid to by the album without hearing any of the other
songs.  If anyone has bought this album, could you please give a review of it.
I saw there video on 120 minutes and the song sounded really good.

Thanks,

-- 
************************************************************************
Gumby or Motts                  * I crack the whip and you skip, but you
marquatj@mentor.cc.purdue.edu   * deserve it, deserve it, deserve it.
************************************************************************
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 6 Apr 1992 15:29:55 CDT
From: <U36300@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Informationless postings
 <1992Apr2.182200.4759@ac.dal.ca> <=7g+83+@engin.umich.edu> <smedley.70232132
 <1992Apr5.164523.19593@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>

Well, consider this a thread for those too lazy to use excessive vowels in alt.
whine.

rr
From: aafloy@cs.hw.ac.uk (Hans Aafloy)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Gentle Giant Illustrated Fanzine
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:19:52 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

The Occasional 

 _   __ .  . ___ .   __       _  .   _    .  . ___
/_. |__ |\ |  |  |  |__      /_. |  /_\   |\ |  |
\_/ |__ | \|  |  |__|__      \_/ | /   \  | \|  |

Newsletter no. 1 was published in March.

It is a fanzine, not available on electronic mail (sorry, folks).
It costs 6 British pounds or 12 US dollars in cash for four issues.
First issue available for free if you want to try it. 16 pages, but 
later issues will have more pages, due to enormous reception.

Email to hasnes@delab.sintef.no should include your name and post address.
Post directly to Geir Hasnes, Eidsvollsgt. 16, N-7016 Trondheim, Norway.
He is in touch with the Gentle Giant members.

A wealth of information, professionally made, and intending to include
articles on other progreesive bands too.
From: dat92bjo@ludat.lth.se (Bo Jonsson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Lyrics to Adrenochrome by Sisters of Mercy
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:12:42 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Lund University, Sweden


Is there someone that has the lyrics to Adrenochrome by The Sisters of Mercy?

Please answer, Here or by mail.

Thanks in advance
BJ
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bo Jonsson              | As the water flows over the bridge    | 
(dat92bjo@ludat.lth.se) | As we walk on the floodland           | 
S. Stenbocksg 101:4     | As we walk on the water, We forget... | 
252 44 HELSINGBORG      | We forget, the rain from heaven       |
SWEDEN                  |               / Andrew Eldritch (SoM) |
Xref: sparky alt.music.alternative:3094 rec.music.misc:14022
From: shj@login.dkuug.dk (Stig Jacobsen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Curve Tour
Date: 10 Apr 92 23:46:22 GMT
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Organization: Asis Electronic Intl., Copenhagen, Denmark

ppennane@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Petrus Pennanen) writes:

>Does anyone know if Curve is going to play in Copenhagen or Sweden this
>spring? Someone wrote that they'll appear in Melkweg in A'dam on April
>28th, but that's a bit too far for me.

They were originally scheduled to play in Copenhagen on may 9th
or may 10th. This was cancelled, rumouredly (english is great :-)
because they will be playing on the Roskilde festival instead.
This festival is, if memory serves me correct - my calendar is
playing hide-and-seek ATM - usually around the end of june or
start of july and Roskilde is ca. 25 km's west of Copenhagen.

>I have to see Toni!

Join the club..
--
Stig Jacobsen                                                   Born confused
shj@login.dkuug.dk                                              Died dazed