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From: jlitchfi@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Jon Litchfield)
Subject: Re: Final Pup?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 07:01:09 GMT

In article <BvDJxD.GuF@mach1.wlu.ca> rale5064@mach1.wlu.ca (Michael Raletic u) writes:
>
>Has anyone heard anything about that Skinny Puppy "demo-tape" album that is
>suppose to be coming out???
>

Yeah, it's out...in Canada at least. I went to the record store to buy it, but
they only had it on CD (me being too poor to invest in a CD player) so I didn't
buy it. As matter of fact I kinda got the impression from the liner note on the
back that perhaps it is a CD only release :-( 

The cover says "2nd in a limited edition series" or soemthing to that effect...
Now the dweeb working says that there is another SP release called "Live '92 
Tour" that is overdue. I personally think it is the same thing as Back and Forthand the release list he had was wrong...but hey, I could be wrong. If I'm right,I suppose that means it is the 1st in the limited edition set, otherwise, I am
assuming the original Back and Forth is the first...Can anyone clue me in to thereal story?

I have heard parts of the Back and Forth "re-release" though - one of my friendspicked it up. It's got some weird, weird stuff...a demo version of "Assimilate"
that is an "instrumental" (ie. minus vocals), a demo of "Smothered Hope", the
same version of "Sleeping Beast" from "Remission", a song called "My Voice 
Sounds Like Shit" and lots of other stuff...I had just bought the new NIN and
wanted to hear it, so we didn't listen to much of the SP...On a side note the 
Adam Ant song (can someone post the name of it again?) I like a lot, and the 
version of "Suck" sucks, and the rest of the EP sounds like NIN trying to be
Ministry...and partially suceeding. All NIN comments are IMHO, and flaming 
is highly unnecessary. 
-- 
No man with a good bus pass needs to be justified...

jon litchfield
jlitchfi@descartes.waterloo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative
From: saxe_dh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Dean H Saxe)
Subject: Any info on a tour by NIN?  
Keywords: NIN, tour, USA
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Distribution: World
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:20:36 GMT

Anybody know if Trent is planning another USA tour to accompany the release
of "Broken?"  I saw him tour in 1991 ($5 tix!), a month before Lollapaloosa
and I was very impressed.  Any info would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!
___________________________________________________________________
| "Who am I trying to impress?   |          Dean H. Saxe          |
|  Who could care less?"         |   saxe_dh@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu   | 
| 		     --Ministry  |   saxe_dh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu   |
|--------------------------------|---------------------------------
|  All opinions expressed herein Copyright 1992, DHS Enterprises  | 	
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From: sharpmn@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew Sharp)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: kmfdm
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:11:11 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <BvnsJy.EL6@rice.edu> mikes@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Shou-Yung Shum) writes:
>kmfdm are playing houston on november 6...
>same night as morrissey  :)

So how will you decide?

Gosh, I would hate to faced with that decision,
I MEAN, LIKE, MAN, I LOVE MORRISEY BUT ON ^H^H^HON
THE OTHeR HAND
I 


LOVE KMFF^HDM TOO SO D000D, I DONT KNOW HOW I WOULD PIK!?!?@#!$@#



Please let us know which you choose.
I, for one, await with baited breath..
err...





Matthew Neill SHarp
matthew@mentor.cc.purdue.edu.NOT but rather matthew@symphony.cc.purdue.edu
From: jvc0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (James Carrier)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Name this song...
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:45:47 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <weluMb600WB74tun1s@andrew.cmu.edu>, jv14+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joseph Vel
ardi) writes:
>
>    I was at this party a while ago, and the djs played this wild
>guitary-dance-techno type track.  Distinguishing feature:  it starts off
>with a sample of a female voice chanting the ol' childhood taunt,
>"Na na na naa na, (something something something)"...pause...enter screaming
>guitar riff.  Since I was in no condition to fight my way across the dance
>floor and talk to the dj, I asked a friend about it later.  He says the
>song used to be a rather popular club track, and he's pretty sure it's
>by the Lords of Acid.  Does anyone out there know the track I'm talking
>about and where I might find it??
>
>                                                        Thanks,
>
>                                                        Joe
sounds like "i sit on acid", by lords of acid.  that's an awfully old song to
keep popping up.

-- 



I apologize in advance for anything contained in my file that could be
construed into a violation of LUCC policies.  If you send me mail about any
offensiveness, I will immediately forward it to Binod.  If you call me to
complain about anything, I'll tell Binod.  If you attack me on campus, I'll
From: jvc0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (James Carrier)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Ministry Samples
Date: 3 Oct 92 22:03:13 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Oct1.203132.3476@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>, cmparris@midway.
ecn.uoknor.edu (Chris Michael Parrish) writes:
>
>  Can anyone give me the sources for any of the samples in So What?
>
they come from a b-movie from the 1950's called "the violent years", which is
about a female crime ring.
-- 



I apologize in advance for anything contained in my file that could be
construed into a violation of LUCC policies.  If you send me mail about any
offensiveness, I will immediately forward it to Binod.  If you call me to
complain about anything, I'll tell Binod.  If you attack me on campus, I'll
From: dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Doubting the Thomas(was Re: Final Pup?
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:52:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.2ACC9A86.1543
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <1992Sep28.171910.162@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu>, aakhan@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu writes...
>In article <1992Sep27.234116.19858@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, scupin@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (SCUPIN  JONATHAN RAYMOND) writes:
> 
>> Doubting Thomas was Key and Goettel, if you like that duo, check out Hilt, and
>> Tear Garden.
>> coprophiliac 
> 
>does anyone have any news on what cEVIN and Dwayne might be releasing next?
> was Doubting Thomas just a 1 single 1 CD project?
>any more DT in the future?
>help!
>anyone!
>Mr. Greg Earle????
> 
>an earnest plea
>from flesh 
>chamber9

	Didn't you notice?  Greg Earle is long gone.  He got fired from JPL and
hasn't gotten another Usenet account yet...

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| dan@cafws1.eng.uci.edu      |  The mark in my heart  ->  Front 242,        |
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: kresskm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Kevin M. Kress)
Subject: Ministry lyrics
Keywords: Psalm 69, grace
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 07:00:41 GMT

I'm not sure if someone has asked this before or not, but I'll risk it anyway...

Does anyone know the lyrics to the part in the last song on Ministry's "new"
album when it fades out?  The last song seems to fade out slowly but, if you
turn the volume up high enough, you can hear (garbled) lyrics as it dies.
I was wondering if anyone has decoded them.
 
Thanks.
 
Kevin M. Kress            Clarkson University - Potsdam, NY
kresskm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu
kresskm@draco.erc.clarkson.edu
.


Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: noah@Cadence.COM (Noah Ruiz)
Subject: Re: Industrial in Movies
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:26:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep17.095340.1@tesla.njit.edu> kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu writes:
>I hate seeing those previews for movies with great music and then it's
>not in it.
>K2 - Front 242 music
>The Last Boyscout - Front 242 Music
>
>I did notice that Cool World has T.K.K. on the album
>and Hellraiser 3 has some industrial (I don't remember which band though)
>It looks like industrial is getting into the movies
>(Hardware had Ministry, with Gwar video playing over it)
> - Kirk

test
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Last Pup!
From: S954161@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:07:48 GMT
Organization: UM ST. LOUIS

  I read an article and interview with cEVIN Key saying they weren't sure
about the breakup. The problem was Ogre coming into sessions so wasted he
had to be dragged out bodily!  Ogre's drug and alchohol habit has been a
problem for years. cEVIN did say that Ogre was getting better toward the
end of the sessions's and that they would try to do some more.
 
 
 
 
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: spud@access.digex.com (a.h.s. boy)
Subject: Re: EN double CD
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 17:47:37 GMT

"Stein" is both the name of F.M. Einheit's solo album, releed last
year, and the name of a group he has now formed as a solo project. the
group Stein has just released a cd of work similar to "Stein" the
album, and also similar to EN's "Die Hamletmaschine" soundtrack...
all are highly recommended.
From: jv14+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joseph Velardi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Name this song...
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:41:11 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


    I was at this party a while ago, and the djs played this wild
guitary-dance-techno type track.  Distinguishing feature:  it starts off
with a sample of a female voice chanting the ol' childhood taunt,
"Na na na naa na, (something something something)"...pause...enter screaming
guitar riff.  Since I was in no condition to fight my way across the dance
floor and talk to the dj, I asked a friend about it later.  He says the
song used to be a rather popular club track, and he's pretty sure it's
by the Lords of Acid.  Does anyone out there know the track I'm talking
about and where I might find it??

                                                        Thanks,
                                                        
                                                        Joe
JRRST12@vms.cis.pitt.edu or jv14+@andrew.cmu.edu
Xref: sparky rec.music.industrial:11218 alt.music.alternative:11774
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:15:26 EDT
From: Thomas G. Hopkins <TH5733A@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: alt.music.hardcore?
 <1992Sep30.004741.6065@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
 <kemIDC600WBNM9h80b@andrew.cmu.edu>

uh.......yes,please.


                     fuk shit up-blatz.
Xref: sparky rec.music.industrial:11075 rec.autos.vw:5413
From: blu@cellar.org (Dan Reed)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,rec.autos.vw
Subject: The Faharvernugen Song<->Kraftwerk's Autobahn?
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:45:02 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

Ya know, after listening to Kraftwerk's _Autobahn_ for the zillionth time, I 
was wondering, did VW "steal" a bit of this tune for thier faharvernugen 
song? I'd swear, at times, they sound VERY alike, only the Kraftwerk verson 
seems slower.

Anyone know if they did infact steal it?  I say they did..

----- 
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68 Cougar XR-7, 89 VW Golf, 72 Honda CL360Twin, Ti/99/4a, Vextrex, Timex
From: sol@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (larry carrier)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Skin Chamber
Date: 27 Sep 92 17:35:57 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

I've heard a bit of the Skin Chamber disk, One of the member is from Controlled Bleeding <Paul Lemos maybe??>...pretty severe..
From: Nathan.H.Saunders@dartmouth.edu (Nathan H. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: new address (Re: Negativmailorderland)
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:12:48 GMT
 <1992Oct5.011035.6737@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1992Oct5.011035.6737@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
mgunders@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark T Gunderson) writes:

>     Here's the address on the back page of "The Letter U and the Numeral
> 2" magazine:
> 
> 	1920 Monument Boulevard, MF-1
> 	Concord, CA  94520

Here is the address from their Negativmailorderland Oct/Nov 92
calendar.

Negativmailorderland
c/o T.E.C. Tones
POB 1477
Hoboken, NJ 07030

Phone (No phone orders)  201-420-0238
fax (fax orders ok w/Visa or MC)  201-420-6494

From their latest catalog, it appears as though Negativland is now
distributing exclusively through T.E.C. Tones.  This may be only for
the east though.  I don't really know.  The flyer says if you wish to
reach Negativland directly, use the old address (above).

 - nathan
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: alh@einoed.in-berlin.de (Adrian Le Hanne)
Subject: Re: Hafler Trio info
Organization: Einoed Unix & Netzwerke, Berlin (FRG)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:33:31 GMT

mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones) writes:

>gt5986c@prism.gatech.EDU (John P. Guske-Arnzen) writes:
>: 
>: a couple quick questions i'm ahoping that someone can answer for me about
>: the Hafler Trio:
>: 
>: 1--	who is in the group?  someone listed this info about a year or
>: 	so back but i wasn't listening to them then.  my loss, huh?

>It was Dr Edward Moolenbeek, Chris Watson, and Andrew Mackenzie.  It
>is now only Andrew.
Newer releases are collaborations with other people, like Annie Sprinkle, 
Genesis P. Orridge and so on...

>: 3--	does anyone have a COMPLETE discog of their work?  i keep finding
>: 	stuff i've never heard mention of or listings for popping up on
>: 	compilations and release lists [not to mention occasional finds
>: 	at the neighborhood Tower recs].

>I've never seen a complete listing; they released a large number of
>limited items when they first started working.  A number of these are
>now being re-issued by Mute and others.

Releases by the Hafler Trio are usually very hard to find. I prefer to
order them via mail order or buy them in a special store here in Berlin,
which is specialized in obscure music (fortunately).

Marco Piovanel <piovanel@pippo.sm.dsi.unimi.it> did a pretty complete
(as far as 'complete' is possible) discography. Send him a mail.

>: 5--	has anyone seen the video of one of their performances [i'm not
>: 	sure of the label, but they market fairly minimally covered 
>: 	recordings of Laibach,PTV,CV, etc.]

>Having seen then perform here, I'd have to say that blank videotape
>would be more interesting than a video of one of their performances.

The Hafler Trio itself would not be visual interesting enough to fill a 
concert or video tape, here i prefer a CD. 
They did, however, a performance in amsterdam, together with TOPY 
(Genesis, actually) where they installed several Dreamachines in a 
squatted newspaper building. This performance is available as a video 
tape, and is probably released by the label you mentioned (VideoPhile?).

>: 6--	and finally,  an address where i can order HT's albums [touch 
>: 	or solielmoon, or wherever]

>Soleilmoon; call (503) 621-3202 and have him send you a catalog.

Many Hafler Trio releases are made by Touch Records, which is by the way 
an very interesting label. (TOUCH, 13 Osward Road, London SW17 7SS, UK).
Staaltape is also releasing Hafler Trio stuff, this is probably handled
by Soleilmoon in the US.

good luck,
Adrian
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alh@einoed.in-berlin.de   Berlin 36. Tel.: 030/611 31 26,  Fax.: 030/611 32 86
  "On a day such as this you should insist on more than the truth" -Pere Ubu
From: flynn@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (FLYNN  JEFFREY THOMAS)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: new Meat Beat Manifesto
Summary: tell me 'bout it
Keywords: anybody have it?
Date: 30 Sep 92 03:19:13 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder


I've seen the new MBM single is out.  It's got remixes by Orbital and 
Consolidated.  All of this fine information and I have yet to hear a
word regarding the quality of the release.  The album is to be released
on October 6th, but I would like to know about the single before I rise
in the chilly Colorado morn to purchase the whole thing!!!

Speak to me world!
 
                                                   -Pudthwart
                                               flynn@ucsu.colorado.edu
.
From: steveh@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (Vivisect)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: REVIEW: Leaether Strip - Solitary Confinement
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:02:47 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, RMIT, Melbourne, Australia


Leaether Strip: SOLITARY CONFINEMENT
1992  Zoth Ommog ZOTCD08

This  is  certainly the best release yet by the danish  band
Leaether  Strip. The music of Claus Larsen, the sole  member,
has  been well-known to fans of electro-body music since the
1990  album _The Pleasure of Penetration_. In that time,  he
has  released  a  number  of twelve  inches,  including  one
amazingly  heavy  dance-track under the  project-name  Klute
(included on the compilation reviewed in the last vivisect),
and  has  also been co-producing another band  on  the  Zoth
Ommog label (Psychopomps).

Whereas much of the music on his first album sounded
interesting - but too much like a rip-off of other music at
that time, "Solitary Confinement" is better in every
respect. It is exquisitely produced, with expert control of
sounds and choice samples which fit the music tightly. The
lyrics are personal stories of angst and frustration, and
the whole CD is extremely intense and dark. Claus still owes
a lot to the influence of Frontline Assembly (interestingly,
thanks to _F.L.A_ are included in the liner-notes...) and to
other bands of the dance-industrial genre, but every track
on this 60+ minute CD is memorable in its own right. If you
like Frontline Assembly, Skinny Puppy, Nitzer Ebb, etc. -
put this on your list of CDs to buy.

Sean Davidson
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: pichocki@nbrwh34.bnr.ca (Stephen Pichocki)
Subject: Bigod 20 - Steelworks ?? 
Summary: A New release - perhaps??
Organization: Northern Telecom, Bramalea, Canada
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 15:21:36 GMT

I've heard (from a friend who was listening to a formerly alternative
radio station in the area - CFNY) that Bigod 20 finally released Steelworks
or Steelwork. I know they were working on a CD release of their own, but
I haven't heard anything on it for quite a while.

Any reviews? Comments??


Regards,

Stephen Pichocki
Northern Telecom
Software Services
BUS   (416) 452-2391  FAX   (416) 452-4783   ESN   333-2391
Internet:  pichocki@bnr.ca
From: darling@cellar.org (Thomas Darling)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: FLA in SLC
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:50:18 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford) writes:

> In article <Dc7JRB3w165w@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca> markp@noncomf.tdkcs.wa
> >
> > Arrrgghh! It's "March to the rhythm. Fists in the air!" Am I the only one
> > who can see this?
> 
> Apparently, yes :-)  [...]  I'll put it down to some peculiar quirk of
> the Canadian accent making what Bill says quite intelligible to you and
> completely unintelligible to me :-)

Well, here's one Canuck that believed the original cheese interpretation.
Maybe it's not Canada-specific, but rather, Vancouver- (or BC-) peculiar.

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From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: MINISTRY, SKREW & HARDCORE INDUSTRIAL
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:09:03 GMT
Keywords: MINISTRY HARDCORE INDUSTRIAL

In article <38763@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, sboswell@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Xianity is stupid) writes:

|> Old has two albums out, the one you'll find in the normal record
|> stores is called "Lo Flux Tube".  Incredible.  They've got
|> instrumental sounds in there that I know don't exist naturally.
|> 
|> I have Skrew and Malhavoc too, and out of all my hardcore industrial,
|> I think Old is my favorite.  Buy it.  Buy it now.

I saw Old open for The Young Gods. They (Old) were positively, absolutely
the *WORST* band I have ever heard. Some of the instrumental music was almost
respectable, but when the vocals showed up...(*shudder*)...simply hideous.
Consider this opinion as another data point...

jds

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From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Ministry article in Pulse! October issue
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:35:15 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

saeed@watson.ibm.com (Saeed Jaffer) writes:
}For those who are interested, there's a decent sized article with Al quotes
}in the new Pulse! October issue, Tower Records free magazine they have at the
}exits. 
}In it, Uncle Al has lotsa comments about going more metal, use of drugs, the
}future of other projects, etc.  I found it relatively interesting.  Would be
}entertaining to see what people think of it.  I'd be willing to post it here
}(and break a few copyright laws) just to see the flames.  

There is also a good article in Request, the free magazine
at Musicland stores......but i don't have the time to type it in...
sorry....

Jester
-- 
I am the paper-cut that ruins your morning. . .
I am the ingrown nail on the foot of crime
I am the squashed bug on your flying saucer widshield.
I am the moth that seeks your porch light.
From: industry@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Mark A Bialik)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: re: Cassandra Complex
Date: 6 Oct 1992 06:27:52 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.30
Originator: industry@convex.csd.uwm.edu


Hello.

I'm a new subscriber to the group.  Industrial has been a part of me for a
long time.  As an undergrad I worked at WRST-FM in Oshkosh, WI.  I worked as
Station Manager, Program Director, and Music Director, so I got my fill of
the new releases.  One of my all-time favorites is a band called Cassandra
Complex.  The band is vey vague with their liner notes so it is quite hard
to learn anything about them.  I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who
knows anything about the band.  Thanks.
-- 
Mark A. Bialik   login: industry
Home phone: 271-1619
industry@convex.csd.uwm.edu
Have a nice day, and remember, Clinton/Gore in '92.  Thank you.