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From: ventura@camelot.bradley.edu (Brian Wawczak)
Subject: My Christmas Break Prediction....
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 16 Dec 92 06:07:59 GMT

After helping my RA lock up the floor tomorrow, I will be leaving for a few
weeks for a much anticipated Christmas break. Here's a prediction that I
have a feeling will come true.

Ric Flair will beat Bret Hart for the title on Jan.1 at the Palace of
Auburn Hills.

Why? First, wasn't it in very early January of '91 that Flair regained the
title from "This Is Sting"? Second, the WWF announcers have been playing
up this "Bret Hart's gonna burn himself out" angle. Third, having the belt
switch hands on the 1st gives ample time for a switch in the card at
the Royal Rumble.

Remember you heard it hear first...

Of course, I'm the one that predicted Hennig's face turn would happen at
last year's WrestleMania, too!

--

ventura@camelot.bradley.edu  

"I'm a 60 minute man, and I'm ALL night long! WOOOOOO!!!"
        - "The Real World's Heavyweight Champion"(tm)  Ric Flair
 
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From: owentracyjea@bvc.edu (Tracy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: RE: what's with ultimate?
Date: 18 Dec 92 00:48:55 CST
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <92350.190625IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, <IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
> 1.  The clown is Phil Stromer.
> 
> 2.  The Ultimate Warrior is now in WCW going by his real
>     name- Johnny Gunn
> 


    Isn't the Warrior's real name Jim Hellwig?
 
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From: ab016@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Flair vs. Ramon
Date: 14 Dec 1992 22:29:47 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ab016@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith)
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In a previous article, ventura@camelot.bradley.edu (Brian Wawczak) says:

>Does anybody else out there see Razor somehow turning on Flair before WM9?
>This is shaping up the same way The Undertaker/Jake Roberts feud came about.
>


I was thinking the same thing.  Reason being, They said the winner of the
Royal Rumble will fight the Champ at WM9 (whomever that may be), and Flair
will have a shot at Brett before the rumble in January....  Could be
interesting...


-- 
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From: fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp)
Subject: Leaving for break
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:39:27 GMT

  Well, I'm leaving for break (my last Christmas break of my academic career)
and would just like to wish everyone Happy Holidays.

  Gift list:

  For Vince McMahon: An idea that a lightweight belt, with high flying action,
will be very marketable (think of all the "bouncin buddy" dolls you could
sell.

  For Bill Watts: Commons sense.  Stick to your promises (wrestling action)
and get Eric some serious training in the mid to lower card ranks.

  Steiners, Pillman, Armstrong, Sting, Headshrinkers: Incentives to
work to their fullest potential, which in all of thses cases is pretty
awesome.

  Too Cold Scorpio: A title (and as a stocking stuffer, a better name)

  All the netters: warm holiday cheer, as well as great PPV's at Starcade
and RR (Hey, it's Christmas, I can dream).

  Wrestling in general: Increased fan attendance to carry this sport well
into the next century.

			Fippster 6
From: Andy@birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: A new face on the net
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:27:30 EST
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Organization: The State of CT.... NOT!
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In article <5185.137.uupcb@ssr.com>, Dave Scherer writes:

> Rick, a friend of mine worked for London Publishing, which owned the PWI
> family of rags.  I can tell you without hesitation that Hogan made no
> statement to any "reporter" from PWI.  The writers there make up all of
> their stories.
> ---

No wonder. They have about 3 boxing magazines to do every month as well.
They look exactly like PWI, Inside Wrestling, and The Wrestler. Those
guys must work like hell...

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From: hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Subject: Re: Boxing is Fake? (Was Re: How old are you ?)
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:54:51 GMT

rusbasan@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Bob Rusbasan) writes:

>All right, I can't stand this anymore.  Could someone *please* explain
>the claim boxing is a work which so routinely pops up on this newsgroup?
>Almost every time some idiot tries to enlighten us by informing us that
>wrestling is fake, someone responds by saying the same thing is true
>of boxing.  I also remember someone (Sean Ryan?) saying they'd worked
>with a boxing promoter and knew for a fact that many matches were a
>work.  Could someone drop the veiled references and go into detail
>about how boxing is fake?  To what extent is is pre-determined?  What
>proof is there?  Which big matches were rigged?  Etc., etc., etc.

I believe most of the big matches are worked.  They can't do biz without that.
Same thing for other sports such as kick-boxing, pro-karate, and sumo. I'm
not saying the all matches are work, however.
As for prelim matches involving no-names, I can't think of many reasons to fix
those matches.  

When I was told Mike Tyson was gonna have the second appearance at the Egg Dome
in Tokyo, I felt something special would happen. He lost the titles to Douglas.
I guess it had to be outside of the US for Tyson to lose the match.

I don't think pro-wrestling is fake(Some idiots would probably take my words
wrong).  If every match needs to be fixed, and that's the way wrestling should
be, why is it fake?  In boxing, the matches shouldn't be fixed but they are 
still fixed when people believe they are not. I would say it's fake then. 
I think this is a matter of "which word we use to discribe."

Just an opinion of mine...-- 
Hisaharu Tanabe                 E-Mail : hit@sol.acs.unt.edu
University of North Texas                htanabe@world.std.com (if in Japanese)
Denton,Texas
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From: Steve_Hooper@mindlink.bc.ca (Steve Hooper)
Subject: Re: Junior's cash does it again
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:33:55 GMT

> HWTQC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
>
> This past weekend's WWF broadcasts claim that the Steiners have entered the
> WWF and will be on next weekend's broadcasts.


They are in fact scheduled to do their first TV Taping on Monday the 14th in
Green Bay.  They will likely be seen on Prime Time on Monday the 21, and make
their syndie appearance on the 26th weekend.


--

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 OR      a777@mindlink.bc.ca   []   Vancouver, BC, CANADA
Conductor on the Cascade Sub.  []         CP Rail
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From: cmoore@scott.skidmore.edu (colin moore)
Subject: keep phil
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:27:53 GMT


At first, I voted to kick the s.o.b off, but then I started thinking
about it.  Despite what others might say, it would be censorship to
boot him off simply because no one likes what he says.  I say, let him
post whatever the hell he wants, and then IGNORE him.  Evryone
complains about the flame wars he starts, but it seemsto me that some
of you are more than willing to engage in one with him.  Let him post
his crap, nd just move on to the next article.  If no one responds to
it, he's going to get bored.  The question then becomes, do enough of
youhave the discipline to ignore him.
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From: Steve_Hooper@mindlink.bc.ca (Steve Hooper)
Subject: Re: LOD split up?
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:35:49 GMT

> HWTQC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
>
> Someone please say (reliably and with authority) it ain't so!
> Please tell me that they've had the class to leave the WWF (Junior took


They have indeed split up.  Hawk is in Japan and teaming with Kensuke Sasaki
as the New Road Warriors.  Animal is also in Japan, though I have not heard
if he has had a match yet.
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Conductor on the Cascade Sub.  []         CP Rail
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From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Questions I've always
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:26:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

STW>Oh, and did anybody catch EWww's quote: "I don't understand why he [Rick
   >Rude] would turn his back to me."  Even the mark perspective says,
   >"Because he just beat you to a pulp and pinned you!"  Typical lack of
   >logic from team Watts.

That was exactly my thought as I was watching the interview.  More
stupid, booking on the fly crap from Watts.
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From: areid@mary.fordham.edu (Darin Reid)
Subject: The WWF's new direction...
Organization: Fordham University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:25:00 GMT
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I really like the WWF's "new" direction.  Granted its not classic NWA
stuff but I still like it.  After gimmicks like the Undertaker, its
fun to see Lawler, Janetty, and Bam Bam [Bigelow] getting to keep
their regular wrestling names.  

Hart is IMHO a great choice for champion, he's down to earth and not
as sickening as Hogan used to be.  I get the feeling that McMahon
likes Hart as champion.

The feud(s?) between Flair, Ramon, Perfect and Hart look to be very
promising.  For some reason McMahon is generating some real heat, more
than Watts is in WCW (Which I feel is going to pot!).

Lastly I've noticed more wrestling moves in the ring in the WWF.  More
than the past 5 years.  The WWF now is starting to remind me of the
days the U.S. Express (Windham and Rotundo) when they had that feud
with the the Iron Shiek and Volkoff.

Just a few thoughts
- Darin

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From: hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Subject: Re: You know who
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 08:23:22 GMT

bolt@wpi.WPI.EDU (some asshole) writes:

>Most of the people who post here should be directed to rec.stupid.phil-stromer

Some people just have a big attitude when he knows nobody is gonna come
get him.  My university isn't a good one, but what is WimPI? You sure ain't
from one of Ivy League schools, are you?  Oh well, you still call them 
stupid...

Why am I writing to this guy when this wimp is never gonna come back and
read other posts???-- 
Hisaharu Tanabe                 E-Mail : hit@sol.acs.unt.edu
University of North Texas                htanabe@world.std.com (if in Japanese)
Denton,Texas
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From: hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze)
Subject: Re: Where is the Iceman!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:38:31 GMT

In article <5184.137.uupcb@ssr.com>, dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) writes:
> HK>  Aren't Iceman King Parsons and Pistol Pez (aka Shaska) Whatley all
>   >  one and the same?  In this case, Parsons has worked as a jobber
>   >  numerous times for both WCW and WWF in the recent past.
> 
> HK>                                                                Herb...
> 
> Herb!  I'm shocked!  How could you confuse the Iceman with Pez?  Iceman
> is a long time Southern Mid West legend, working mostly Oklahoma and
> Texas.  He was over huge in Watts UWF.  He was even with the Freebirds
> for a while as the BlackBird.  His interviews were always great, ending
> up when he called someone a "no good roody poot."  I always wondered
> what that was.
> 
> Parsons still works indies in Texas.

  It was a rare attempt at the "mistaken identity" humour that pervades
  the net at times.  Since I couldn't say that Parsons was Steve DiSalvo
  or the Ultimate Warrior II, I tried to stay realistic.  When somebody
  pointed out that Parsons had the tatoos on his chest, I fought the
  urge to mention Rocky Johnson.  

  Sorry.  
                                                             Herb...  
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From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: Re: Phil Stromer
Organization: American Math. Society
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:51:27 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.054204.7901@cs.mun.ca> rodney@odie.cs.mun.ca (Rod Hutchings) writes:


   >that.  IMHO, the majority of readers of rspw do not want this sort of
   >garbage in our group.

Most likely true.

   >of thing that should be banned from any kind of public forum.  Mind you, I
   >am not in favor of censorship.  But I do not feel we are engaging in
   >censorship in banning Phil Stromer from Internet.  Instead, in doing so, we
   >would be creating an environment which would be more conducive to public
   >forums and open debate.

But it is still censorship.  We don't like what he says, so we want to
drum him out of the group.  That's fine, and I'm in favor of getting
rid of him.  But let's not mince words.  Censorship is censorship.  

My Webster's defines censorship as: "the act or a system of
censoring."  A censor is defined as "an official with the power to
examine publications, movies, television programs, etc. and to remove
or prohibit anything considered obscene, libelous, politically
objectionable, etc."  So we are voting to ban Stromer from publishing
articles in this group because they are considered politically
objectionable.  We are acting as the "official".  We are the censor,
performing censorship.

I agree that by censoring Stromer's publications we may create a
better environment.



-Alan Harder                

 My opinions are not the opinions of the American Mathematical Society.
 Did you think they were?
From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Lawler wants to relive pa
Date: 11 Dec 92 14:34:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

<J>   I saw what others wrote of this strange event and everyone seem to miss t
  >logical reason for his appearence.  Lawler beat Henning for the AWA World ti
  >Lawler may not be finish with Kamala.  He may want to beat Hart for the Worl
  >title.

He may want to marry Princess Diana too!  Seriously, Lawler came to
Titan for one reason: Money.  He is not going to wrestle much there, and
is mostly there to do commentary.  I would be shocked if any mention of
Lawler's win over Hennig is made.  That would simply not make sense as
Perfect is now probably the group's top face.
---
 . SLMR 2.0 . Does the Ultimate Warrior really take steroids?
From: ba446@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Todd M. Hanson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: KEEP SUBJECT ON WRESTLING
Date: 20 Dec 1992 08:31:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ba446@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Todd M. Hanson)
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In a previous article, au414@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sean P. Ryan) says:

>I've got news for you...this isn't a "conference," it's a
>newsgroup. 

And once again, the 'net.god' himself shows his disdain for the ham and
eggers..

Sean, Ive got news for you.  Nobody (but you) really cares if someone 
calls this a newsgroup, or a conference, or an echo, or a bbs.

I dont know where you ever got the idea, but you are NOT as important
to the lives of others as you seem to think you are.  I would be willing
to put $$ that more than 99% of the people on this (conference? echo?
newsgroup?) could really care less who the fuck you are.  

We dont want to hear about: (and which we HAVE heard about)
        * your problems paying for school
        * your problems with different systems and how they post.
        * the political candidates you spend all your time working for.
        * how you're going to write a 'real' faq one of these days
              (because the current faq doesnt meet your high standards).
        * how we're going to be deprived of your postings because you
              are sooooo busy.

But mostly Sean, we dont want to hear you flame new posters to this 
newsgroup for something as stupid as using the word conference instead
of newsgroup.

Shut the fuck up Sean.  Nobody cares.

Todd

(sorry, but I am Sooo sick of reading this guy's self-important posts)


-- 
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*                                                                       *
*     "No woman's worth a bullet between the eyes.. "                   *
*          "Depends on who's eyes.. and which woman."    'Bugsy'        *
From: joey@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.menes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Separated at Birth?
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:39:11 GMT
Organization: AT&T

How about Gorilla Monsoon and Yogi Berra?

joey
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Friday, 18 Dec 1992 18:22:54 EST
From: Solipsist at Large <IK20001@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Phil Stromer
 <1992Dec14.054204.7901@cs.mun.ca> <ASH.92Dec18085127@ulysses.mr.ams.com>
 <1992Dec18.185043.1632@ists.ists.ca>

I say anytime Phil Stromer wants to write about wrestling, he should
be able to.  If he doesn't want to write about wrestling, why would
he *want* to post here?  Aside from being antagonistic, of course.

So put me down as a Yes, assuming he agrees to remain on-topic.  There
are appropriate Newsgroups for the discussion of Homosexuality.  This
is not one of them.

Obwrestling:  Glad to see some Technical Ability return to the WWF.
--
Eric Alfred Burns                        "Life is full of decisions
Solipsist at Large                        but you never get to make any."
"It's all in your mind"
IK20001@maine.maine.edu                           --Linus Van Pelt
From: bh929@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Palij)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: YooHOO!  Where's the Friggin' FAQ? (was Re: Adrian Adonis
Date: 14 Dec 1992 00:08:02 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bh929@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Palij)
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In a previous article, macika@emunix.emich.edu (Dominic Macika) says:

>In article <1992Dec12.023550.3788@cs.mun.ca> rodney@riemann.math.mun.ca (Rod Hutchings) writes:
>>
>>Adrian Adonis was killed when the van he was riding in (or was he actually
>>driving) went off an icy road and over an embankment just outside of
>>Lewisporte, Newfoundland.  Also killed was "Wildman" Dave McKigney (sp)
>>and Pat Kelly, one of the infamous Kelly Twins.  I had a newspaper article
>>which I posted to the net quite some time ago.  I can dig it out again and 
>>repost it, for anyone concerned.
>
>Congrats to Rod for posting the most accurate (as a matter of fact, about the 
>only really accurate) report on Adonis' accident.  Shows how much good
>our invisible FAQ is doing now...

I was curious about how long (a) someone would correct the original
posting and (b) have somebody comment about the need for the FAQ so
that this and a couple of the other questions that have appeared
recently could be answered.  At last count I think 2-3 people were
supposed to be working on maintaining and/or posting the FAQ.
What's going on?  Who's in charge?  Who wants to be in charge?
Ah, frig it, its almost the end of the semester anyway, right?

>-- 
>Dominic Macika
>
>"We've got to hold on to what we've got.  Doesn't make a difference
>if we make it or not.  We've got each other and that's a lot for 
>love."

-- 
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