From: camh@ed.ecn.purdue.edu (Hasan Cam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Frequently Asked Questions
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:32:09 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <nazim.711905890@odin>, nazim@odin.unomaha.edu (The Unknown) writes:
> camh@ed.ecn.purdue.edu (Hasan Cam) writes:
> 
> >In article <1992Jul22.140034.11278@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, ahmet@eecg.toronto.edu (Ahmet Parlakbilek) writes:
> >...
> >[stuff deleted]
> >> 
> >> 12) Is there any electronic mail list for discussions related to Turkish
> >> people/culture etc.?
> >> 
> >> Yes, there are plenty. One that's very famous is TEL, Turkish Electronic
> >                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> List. The language used in communication is mostly Turkish and there is
> >  ^^^^^^
> >I believe that the net TSAA-L is at least as famous as TEL, if not
> >more famous. Why?!!! Don't you remember that some subcribers of ICTS-L
> >(the old name of TSAA-L) have been advertised(!) in daily newspapers
> >such as Cumhuriyet(!) 2 years ago?  Don't you remember that a
> >congressman from SHP asked the Ministry of  Education (or government)
> >what the subscribers of ICTS-L had done?
> 
>         So what?

That is, icts-l (tsaa-l) is at least as famous as TEL. Don't you know
how to derive conclusions from self-explanatory statements?

>         
> >> no restriction about the topics discussed. To subscribe, one should send
> >> a mail with the body "sub tel your_name your_family_name" to 
> >> tel@uscvm.bitnet. Other lists can be summarized (not complete) as follows:
> >> 
> >> list name   topics discussed    mail address          command for subscription
> >> ---------   -----------------   ----------------      ------------------------
> >> tel         everything          listserv@uscvm.bitnet  sub tel name last_name
> >> ptt-l       everything-u      listserv@liverpool.ac.uk sun ptt-l name last_name
> >> trknws-l    news                listserv@uscvm.bitnet  sub trknws-l name l_name
> >> yunus       turkish tex users   listserv@trmetu.bitnet sub yunus name last_name
> >> tsaa-l      religion, everyth. listserv@purccvm.bitnet sub tsaa-l name l_name
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> >This is a BIASED description for TSAA-L. Although many of
> >the subscribers of TSAA-L do discuss Islamic religion, it
> >doesn't give right anybody to say that the net has dedicated
> >particularly to the religious topics. The bottomline is that
> >any subscriber of TSAA-L can post any message on it.
> 
>         I don't know about you, but I subscribed to the tsaa-l and the
>         only topic I saw was religios!, it was boring...

The messages to be posted on tsaa-l are not restricted to religious topics.
Any message can be posted on the net. I didn't ask you whether
the topics are boring or not, but I said that EVERYTHING
is discussed on TSAA-L.

>         
> >Hasan Cam
> >List owner of TSAA-L
> 
> >-----------------------------------------------------------------
> >-------------------------------------------------------------
> >TSAA-L stands for Turkish Students Assistance Association List
> >--------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>         Be more precise, maybe you should change the name of the group and
>         name it GIHHS (gradute of imam hatip high-schools).

It is NONE of YOUR BUSINESS what we name the net. Let me tell
you this: maybe there are possibly 2 or 3 subscribers graduated
from imam hatip high school. Majority of the subscribers are
engineers and they have graduated from high schools. So,
to prevent more religious people from graduating high school in Turkey,
you should immediately come up a law that DISMISSES any high school 
student who talks about Allah!!!. In this way, you can also PUBLICIZE
how DEMOCRATIC(!!!) and HUMANITARIAN(!!!) you are, aren't you?


Hasan Cam
List owner of TSAA-L
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