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From: hofbauer@csri.toronto.edu (John Hofbauer)
Subject: Re: pinocchio
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Distribution: rec
Date: 22 Jul 92 05:47:25 GMT

>     The theatrical re-release of "Pinocchio" looks as though it's going
>     to be a modest money-maker for Disney.  Last year's "101 Dalmatians"
>     made about $50 million, which was enough to set the dogs barking.
>     This time around, though, even wishing upon a star may not help
>     "Pinocchio;" forecasts are that it will make perhaps $25 million
>     before closing by Labor Day.

I'm not surprised.  I just saw 'Pinocchio' at the local Bijou and it
was wonderful.  I was struck, though, by the darkness of the storyline.
It is for this reason that it won't be a big moneymaker.  It is not
a classic fairytale, like Snow White or Cinderella, nor a fun story
like 101 Dalmatians or Lady and the Tramp.  On the other hand it is
Disney's masterpiece for pure animation artistry.

>     No official word has been made on the video re-release of
>     "Pinocchio."  I suspect that it will be released in 1993, as
>     Disney has been traditionally waiting one year at most between
>     the theatre and the sell-through video.  Since "Pinocchio"
>     does not seem to be a major cash cow in the order of
>     "Dalmatians," I don't think Disney will bother releasing a
>     fancy, over-priced "Deluxe" video edition of the film.  This
>     will be good news for the consumer, as it means that the
>     video should be released at the standard Disney price of:
>
>          Videotape - $25  ($15 to $20 in major stores)
>          CLV Laserdisc - $30
>          CAV Laserdisc - $40

I'm looking forward to the CAV laserdisc.  I hope they'll release it
at the same time as everything else.  I want to study the animation
frame-by-lovely-frame.

>     NOTE: This is mere speculation, not based on any actual facts other
>     than box-office records, and accounts of how previous Disney films
>     have fared in the theatres vs. home video.  If anyone hears the
>     "official" word from Disney as to "Pinocchio's" home video release,
>     then please post it here!

Ditto.
From: terry@edsi.plexus.COM (Terry Dawson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Goofy Lovers/Rejected Dwarfs/Family Mice
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:46:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: edsi.1992Jul30.144605.731
Organization: Appleton Public Library - Appleton, WI

dee@ranger.enet.dec.com (Donald E. Eastlake, III) writes:

>The Grimms obtained their collection of tales by secretly listening to
>their telling, as these stories are essentially a European mythology
>passed along from mother to daughter via the oral tradition.  Hmmm- nice,
>biological mothers telling stories to their kids about wicked stepmothers
>and mean fathers...and NOT about mean biological mothers...Sounds like a
>possible form of matriarchy to me.

Sounds like human psychology to me.  All kids have conflicts and
resentments with regard to their parents.  Stories about a wicked
stepmother allow us to resent mom without guilt.  We need this.  Cf.
Bruno Bettelheim's _The Uses of Enchantment_.

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From: davis@gauss.enet.dec.com (Peter Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney book?
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:54:12 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Jul31.030217.16396@PA.dec.com>, mikkelson@breakr.enet.dec.com (snopes) writes...
> 
>In article <92212.123857WTQ@psuvm.psu.edu>, 
>  WTQ@psuvm.psu.edu (Reid Woolery) writes...
> 
>>I just came across a copy of "The Art of Walt Disney" by Christopher Finch.
>>This copy was published in 1983 by Harry N. Abrams, Inc. and is in great
>>condition. Does anyone know the current value of these books? The list price
>>on the jacket cover is $60.
> 
> As of a few weeks ago, Disneyland was selling brand-new copies of this book
> for $40.
>

The new edition doesn't have the cardboard cutout of Mickey Mouse on the
cover.

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From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: _Beauty_ theater posters!
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:02:23 PDT

Yes, you read that subject line correctly.  I have found a source of
pre-release theater posters for _Beauty & the Beast_.  Not the cartoony
one with the characters dancing in a meadow, but the "most beautiful
love story ever told" one.  However, the guy doesn't want to deal with
shipping them all over the country.  Being a nice guy myself, I am 
going to offer my services in mailing them.  If you're willing to
trust me enough to send me a check for the price of the poster plus
shipping, I'm willing to put the time into buying and shipping them.

The guy wants about $25 for them if I remember correctly.  I don't
know how much third class or first class mail would be, or a poster
mailing tube for that matter, but I can't imagine that it would be
more than another five dollars or so.  And if we buy enough of them
as a group, we may be able to get a volume discount.  The guy had
a limited number of them, though it was more than a few.  If you
are interested, please e-mail me and we'll work out the details
after people have time to answer.  If there are more buyers than
posters, it will be first come first served.  That's not entirely
fair because of the oddities of Usenet propogation, but it's the
best I can think of.

--
|  Greg Orman                         greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|     A man's best friends:  a Harley, a Baretta and a Gund.     |
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: peter pan
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:14:21 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

KVS>We recently purchased the Peter Pan video for our daughter, and we noticed
KVS>that the scene toward the end where Hook's bomb blows was changed.  We
KVS>remember a scene where Peter scrambles through the bomb debris to find
KVS>Tinkerbell, after finding her he first appeals to her not to go out, and
KVS>that he believes in her, Peter then proceeds to appeal to the audience to
KVS>believe as well. This usually always resulted in the entire audience shoutin
KVS>we believe.

     As a matter of fact, the scene where Peter Pan asks the audience to
     help bring Tinker Bell back to life was NEVER included in the
     animated "Peter Pan."  I remember being shocked to see that scene
     "removed" when I saw the movie in the theatres again, and I did a
     little research on it.  That scene was never there in the first place!

     Our collective memories of Peter appealing to the audience for aid
     must come from viewings of "Peter Pan" on TV versions, plays, or
     perhaps other theatrical versions of the movie, as well as from
     the original story itself.  It was not in the Disney animated movie.

     "You silly ass." -- Tinker Bell (The James M. Barrie version, that is)
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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tuesday, 28 Jul 1992 13:04:09 MST
From: <ICWFM@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Unofficial Guide to WDW
Distribution: world

I have also been reading "The Unofficial Guide to WDW" in preparation for
my trip in late September, and I'd like to know if others have used the
propoesed strategies effectively.  I selected the dates for my visit based
low visitor attendance so that we would have a little more breathing space.
Are the proposed touring plans effective, or even desirable when the crowds
are smaller?  Thanks in advance for any advice
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From: ultron@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Andrew H Krieg)
Subject: Re: Disney book?
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:27:59 GMT

In article <92212.123857WTQ@psuvm.psu.edu> WTQ@psuvm.psu.edu (Reid Woolery) writes:
>I just came across a copy of "The Art of Walt Disney" by Christopher Finch.
>This copy was published in 1983 by Harry N. Abrams, Inc. and is in great
>condition. Does anyone know the current value of these books? The list price
>on the jacket cover is $60.

This book had an extremely large print run and is not a difficult book to
find.  A couple of years ago Dalton's and Walden's were both clearancing this
book at $19.95 (and I don't mean the smaller reprint edition).  I didn't even
buy it at that price, as I already had _Disney Animation: The Illusion of
Life_ which is, IMHO, a much, much better book.
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From: mike@nyquist.bellcore.com (Mike Lukacs 21341)
Subject: Re: EuroDisney
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 20:53:11 GMT

In article <63909@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt1293c@prism.gatech.EDU (W. Scott Radeker, IV) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.180720.15117@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> mike@nyquist.bellcore.com (Mike Lukacs 21341) writes:
>>
>>include a ride someday.  The castle is Superb, Much larger than DL-Ca., it
>>is a bit larger than WDWs castle and contains a walk through stained glass
>
>From the info I read at the Disney Store, this ain't true.  Cinderella's
>castle in FL and in Tokyo are the tallesta at 56 Meters.  The castle
>at EuroDisney is only 45 Meters tall.  At least that's what I read
>in an article about the Chateau...

I was thinking of apparent interior volume rather than height, but all of 
these things are very dependent on how you measure them.

In WDW the castle sits on relatively level ground.  In EuroDisney, the
castle seems to be at the top of a large hill, about 12-15 ft. (~4 meters)
elevation. It is this "hill" that encloses the "underground" area where
the dragon dwells.  On the other hand, the WDW castle has it's underground
areas also, the semi-mythical "Control Room of WDW" but this area is not
open to the public.

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From: tap1040@venus.tamu.edu (SPEED RACER)
Subject: Re: Disney Pigskin Classic?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 04:59:00 GMT

In article <28hm09b.tyger@netcom.com>, tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle) writes...
>....Anyway, the point of all this is....what *is* this? I have been a 
>reasonably
>rabid Disney-O-phile for almost three years now, and I have never heard of
>this game. Is it real teams, if so, college or pro? Is it Disney characters?
> 

It is college teams.  In fact my school, Texas A&M University, is one of the
teams in the game.  I can't recall who we're supposed to play, though.       
________________________________________________________________________________

                                 -SPEED RACER-                    
                                     Tracy      
                              Texas A&M University
				   WHOOP!!!!

John Madden: "There's a good sign.  Troy Aikman putting his pants back on."
Pat Sommerall: "That's ALWAYS a good sign."
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From: maj1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mark "Beren" Jamison)
Subject: Looking for a Disney Gif Site
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:23:03 GMT

Sorry if this is in the FAQ, but where can I get a lot of Good
disney Gifs?? Wuarchive doesn't really seem to have that many..
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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Wednesday, 22 Jul 1992 07:54:37 MST
From: <ICWFM@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: WDW - Splash Mountain OPEN!!!
Distribution: na
 <1992Jul20.173400.1@pomona.claremont.edu>

Sure, I'd volunteer to test traffic patterns around the WDW Splash Mountain.
I'll be there 9/27/92 and I sure hope attendance is light.

I remember waiting 2.5 hours to ride the DL Splash Mountain before it
officially opened.  They were testing it that July and we got to ride it
twice.  We headed back for a third time, but they were shutting it down
and turning guests away.
From: mikkelson@breakr.enet.dec.com (snopes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney book?
Date: 31 Jul 92 03:02:00 GMT
Organization: Salivation Army


In article <92212.123857WTQ@psuvm.psu.edu>, 
  WTQ@psuvm.psu.edu (Reid Woolery) writes...

>I just came across a copy of "The Art of Walt Disney" by Christopher Finch.
>This copy was published in 1983 by Harry N. Abrams, Inc. and is in great
>condition. Does anyone know the current value of these books? The list price
>on the jacket cover is $60.

 As of a few weeks ago, Disneyland was selling brand-new copies of this book
 for $40.

 - snopes

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From: kvs@adpgate.UUCP (Karl V. Schroeder)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Peter Pan
Keywords: Missing Tinkerbell Scene
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:28:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: flux.1461
Organization: ADP Dealer Services R&D, Portland, OR

We recently purchased the Peter Pan video for our daughter, and we noticed
that the scene toward the end where Hook's bomb blows was changed.  We 
remember a scene where Peter scrambles through the bomb debris to find
Tinkerbell, after finding her he first appeals to her not to go out, and
that he believes in her, Peter then proceeds to appeal to the audience to
believe as well. This usually always resulted in the entire audience shouting
we believe.

Our question is does anyone know why this scene was removed?

We went to the show Walt Disney's World on Ice featuring Peter Pan 2 years
ago and they played this scene to the hilt, but we remembered and expected
it to be in the original.

Please post or email answers to the address below.

Thanks in advance,
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From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Re: electrical parade
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:00:38 PDT

In article <1992Jul22.155733.26605@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>, myc@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (Michael Y Chiang) writes:
> 
> Also, while
> you're at WDW, try to catch the fireworks at Disney/MGM Studios,
> nightly at 9:55 pm.  IMHO, they are better than the Magic Kingdom's.

You should presumably also try to catch the Illuminations show at
Epcot.  I've been told it is spectacular, though I have also been told
that I may be disappointed now that I'm used to Fantasmic!.

--
|  Greg Orman                       greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|         "I used to love her, but I had to kill her."         |
|                                   -GnFR                      |
From: archive@arb.uucp (CARL  L  SAGE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: WDW Internal Transportation
Date: 30 Jul 92 11:30:35 EST
Organization: Not an Organization

Please disregard the "continued next msg" line in my last msg --- editor
problems.Thanks.

"Any sufficiantly advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
-Arthur C Clarke-
"It's kind of fun to do the impossible." -Walter Elias Disney-
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Subject: disneyland
From: <LEWCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Friday, 31 Jul 1992 02:19:14 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

 I want to know if there is any information on Westcot.  Have they
 started any construction yet???
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From: Donald E. Eastlake, III <dee@ranger.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Disney Inov. in Action Tour ...
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:33:20 GMT

Hi,

I'm setting up a behind the scenes Disney "Innovation in Action" tour.
 I already
have more than the minimum 15 people staying on Disney property that
are
required so I'm not looking for more; however, I have some people who
are
interested who are not staying on Disney property.

Has anyone actually been on one of these and if so can they tell me how
rigorously WDW checks on local place of residence??  I'm sure they
will count how
many people there are carefully so they will get their $53 a head and
I was
told at one point I would have to provide Disney reservation numbers
for
everyone in the group but now it looks like they may not ask for the
reservation
numbers.

Donald
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From: nschultz@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Ned W Schultz)
Subject: Little Mermaid cards
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 05:12:54 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, CSc Department


Folks, can you help my daughter and me complete a set of Little Mermaid
cards?  Here is what we need and have for trade:

Little Mermaid  ProSet 1991
---------------------------
Need:
	2, 3, 5, 9, 15, 29, 30, 32, 34, 35, 40, 44, 46, 49
	51, 64, 74, 79, 80, 86, 89
	S4, S7, S12   C1, C3, C9, C13, C14
 
Extras:
	4, 6(2), 8, 10, 13, 14, 17, 19(3), 27, 47(2)
	52, 54, 55, 57, 61, 62, 63, 67, 77, 78, 87
	C4, C5(2)
 
If you have some cards to trade or have some extras you are willing
to part with, please email me.  Thnks!

Ned Schultz
nschultz@polyslo.calpoly.edu
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From: ratter@b8.ingr.com (Ray Ratte)
Subject: Re: Aladdin
Summary: Computer Graphics World
Keywords: aladdin
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:57:27 GMT

In article <H4wLoB1w165w@pain.la.ca.us>, yoshio@pain.la.ca.us (Yoshio Nakamura) writes:
> When I went to Brentano's, a book store in the Northridge Fashion
> Center, I saw on one of their video monitors part of Walt Disney's
> 101 Dalmations.  After it was done, a few scenes from Aladdin
> were shown.  Alas, there was no sound!  Also, there is a picture
> of Aladdin, his monkey, and a genie at the El Capitan theatre
> in Hollywood, near the ticket window.
>  
> It was awesome seeing Beauty and the Beast in 70 mm, with
> 6 track sound with THX!  (at the El Capitan)  The 6 track sound
> really adds to the experience, much nicer than the standard two
> track stereo sound.
>  
> Did anyone read the current issue of _Computer Graphics World_?
> It talks about the use of computer graphics in Ferngully.
>  
> -yoshio        yoshio@pain.la.ca.us
>  
> (Can someone reply to this message, I'd like to see if this
> post makes it off site.  Pain only gets 24 messages a week on
> misc.jobs.offered, and ucrmath.ucr.edu gets that much in a day - thanks)
> 
> --
> yoshio@pain.la.ca.us

Yes I read the article on Ferngully and I plan on keeping that issue. 

Your post has made it this far anyway.

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From: sonja@mariposa.key.amdahl.com (Sonja Rysko)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Pinocchio
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:54:04 GMT
Reply-To: sonja@mariposa.key.amdahl.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems

Just wanted to state another point of view concerning release,
re-release, VHS, Laserdisks of Disney movies.
 
I may be what you call the consumate Disney consumer. I would rather
they sell anything and everything so that *I* can choose what to buy,
not what some marketing researcher thinks the plan should be. (Not to
mention some hot-tempered net writers.)

I also agree with those of you with the gripes concerning laserdisk
release dates. I would like to see these fine films in the high quality
of ld asap. I still buy the tape, however, for the kids. I would prefer
that my little ones not touch the ld player, but they are free to put
in tapes. As a result, I have most releases in ld, VHS, or both.  I
don't feel ripped off, it fits my family's needs.
 
Why is it that when some people are given informed choices, they feel
cheated?

Sonja
From: archive@arb.uucp (CARL  L  SAGE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: electrical parade
Date: 24 Jul 92 12:52:10 EST
Organization: Not an Organization

The Main Street Electrical Parade has moved to EuroDisney.It was 
replaced with Spectromagic;an all new,high tech expirience designed
to last into the next century.It includes electroluminescent panels,
fiber optics,and a myriad of other technologies.
The current (7/24/92) show times are 9pm and 11pm.
Best viewing is near the Diamond Horseshoe Revue/Liberty Square area
and at Town Square on Main Street.These sites are best because you get 
a "long vista" and are able to see the changes occuring throughout the
length of the longer units (eg. the finale unit).
For additional info/show times/etc,call Guest Services for the Magic 
Kingdom at:(407)824-4500.For property wide guest info call:(407)824-
4321.

"Any sufficiantly advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
-Arthur C Clarke-
"It's kind of fun to do the impossible." -Walter Elias Disney-
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