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From: rbutera@barred.owlnet.rice.edu (Rob Butera)
Subject: Re: academics
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:50:24 GMT

In article <8APR199212270802@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>, acdendy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY) writes:
> Regardless of what the halftime commercials would have you believe, 
> academic and research alliances don't follow conference lines.  You don't see 
> "your conference sucks" threads on the sci.* groups.  The particular group 

I fully agree.  Also, just because a school is a "premier research university"
does not necessarily imply that:

1)	It has a good undergraduate program (though many do)
2)	That their athletes are better/smarter/more-prepared than another
	school's athletes, just because the school is "better in research."

Case in point.  I really hate to slam on my alma mater, but here goes.
I'm sure you all know similar stories.  

Georgia Tech is a school that is in the top 5 in the country among
public schools for SAT scores (pretty impressive with half the school from
Georgia :-) ),  which is over 1200.  It also is way up there in the amount
of research $$$ brought in (I know the EE department was #3 in the country
last year in this category, with several other departments also in the 
top 10).  In other words, a large engineering school that brings in lots
of research $$$.
This has NOTHING to do with the fact that ANY basketball player
(or football player, likely) that Bobby Cremins wants will getr offered
admission as long as he gets his 700 SAT (which took Kenny Anderson and 
Dennis Scott multiple attempts).  What do these athletes have to do with
large research budgets?  Nothing.  SOME professors at schools with top
sports programs don't even know nor care that the school has a top sports
program.

In other words, the football player at Stanford can be just a bright or
stupid as the football player at Oklahoma.  Yes, some schools claim to have
a bit of adademic standards for admitting athletes (though still admittedly
below the standard for normal students, even if above the standards for
athletes at other schools), but these schools are in the minority, and I
doubt many state schools have such policies.

My school is smarter than your school.  Nya.  Nya.   Give it up guys!

-- 
Rob Butera - ECE grad student   Rice University, Houston, TX   rbutera@rice.edu

"This attractive lady, whom I had only recently been introduced to, dropped
 into my lap.  I chose not to dump her off." - Gary Hart
From: gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne "Goober" Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: SWC (was Re: 1992 Bowl matchups)
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:34:10 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station

In article <17APR199213032829@zeus.tamu.edu> tbn0931@zeus.tamu.edu (NORTH, TOM-C) writes:
--** flame on **
--	Arkansas sucks roadkill through a straw.
--** flame off **

** brain on **
     The State of Arkansas sucks roadkill through a straw
     The University of Arkansas has consistently beaten A&M in every sport
     imaginable including football, where Arkansas has a 38-24 advantage.
** brain off **   (back to my normal self)
     

--						Tom-C
--						Texas A&M University
--
--P.S. I'm not at all happy with are *puke* basketball team. And, I do like other 
--	colleges, not just A&M. Thanks.

I'm not happy with A&M's *puke* student body.   There is little or no support 
for any athletics other than football.  

The University of Arkansas has a better overall athletic program than A&M.  
And for that matter, the University of Texas has a *much* better overall 
athletic program than A&M.

The standard Aggie line is "well when the basketball team gets better,
then I'll go to the games".  The standard aggie is a fair-weather fan.

- gary (welcome to r.s.f.c) smith

-- 
Racism Sucks!
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From: acdendy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Subject: academics
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  8 Apr 1992 12:27 EST  

There's been a lot of discussion of whose conference is better than which 
academically, prompted by arguments about schools changing their conference 
affiliations.  This stuff is so far off the topic it's only forgiveable 
because we're in the off season and things are so dead.

Not only is it off the topic of football, it's not really a relevant 
argument.  I don't buy the assertion that schools align with conferences 
for academic purposes.  That's why they're called ATHLETIC conferences.  
Reasons for big-time sports include name recognition and gross income, which 
come with winning on the field and with extensive media exposure.  These 
are considerations in joining an athletic conference.

Regardless of what the halftime commercials would have you believe, 
academic and research alliances don't follow conference lines.  You don't see 
"your conference sucks" threads on the sci.* groups.  The particular group I'm 
working with at the moment includes one WAC school, one Ivy, two PAC-10's 
and one without football.

R Dendy



We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
From: oliver@athena.mit.edu (James D. Oliver III)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Turkey Dinners (Re: Hokie/Gobbler - the REAL answer)
Date: 15 Apr 92 08:33:38 GMT
	<1992Apr14.152304.20832@walter.bellcore.com>
	<1992Apr14.194101.9527@news.larc.nasa.gov>
Distribution: na
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

What's a turkey dinner without a nice big glass of ice tea to wash it
down with?
--
____________________________
	Jim Oliver  
	oliver@athena.mit.edu /	joliver@hstbme.mit.edu
	oliver%mitwccf.BITNET@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
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From: mln@icase.edu (Michael Nelson)
Subject: Re: SWC (was Re: 1992 Bowl matchups)
Organization: ICASE/NASA Langley
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:08:17 GMT

In article <54420@hydra.gatech.EDU>, mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
>mln@icase.edu (Michael Nelson) wrote:
>}
>}I'm sure *all* insects would be terrified of an enraged turkey.
>
>Hah!  Show me a Yellow Jacket that's afraid of a turkey, enraged
>or not!  I can't imagine any such insect - least of all one whose 
>best friend is a car - being "terrified" by an overweight fowl!
>
>The insect stings the turkey, and while it gobbles helplessly in pain
>the wreck floors it and runs the poor bird over - no contest, game
>over.  (Even with a can of Off! and a crescent wrench, the poor
>turkey can do little damage without an opposable thumb.)
>

I'm sure the Turkey's protective layer of feathers would protect it from
the pesterings of bothersome bugs.  If not, since Turkeys can fly for short
distances it would simply leave the bug behind.  And crap on the wreck
while in the air...

[off season sucks, doesn't it?]

Michael Nelson
>-- 
>"Laugh while you can, monkey boy!"    | Mark Mitchell, Ga. Tech, Atlanta, GA
>                                      | mm42@prism.gatech.edu
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From: rhodes@utkux1.utk.edu (William A. Rhodes)
Subject: Re: University of TN '92 Football Schedule
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:08:11 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.155710.17796@utkux1.utk.edu> mcamp@utkux1.utk.edu (Mark Campbell) writes:

>The 1992 UT Football Schedule:


>Grid Orange '92

>Sept 5 - Southwestern Louisiana  @ Knoxville
>Sept 12        - Georgia                 @ Athens (see ya there)
>Sept 19        - Florida                 @ Knoxville (revenge baby!)
>Sept 26        - Cincinnati              @ Knoxville
>Oct  3 - LSU                     @ Baton Rouge
>Oct  10        - Arkansas                @ Knoxville (welcome to the SEC)
>Oct  17        - Alabama                 @ Alabama (the tide stops here)
>Oct  31        - South Carolina          @ Columbia
>Nov  14        - Memphis State           @ Memphis
>Nov  21        - Kentucky                @ Knoxville
>Nov  28 - Vanderbilt             @ Nashville

>Dec  5 - SEC Championship Game   @ Birmingham

>University of Tennessee Volunteers -- 1992 SEC Champions

Have they joined the Metro Conference?
                        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                              William A. Rhodes             
                            rhodes@utkux1.utk.edu
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      "Without a rich heart, wealth is like an ugly beggar." _Emerson
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tuesday, 14 Apr 1992 01:48:24 EDT
From: <GU7@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: VIDOES REQUIRED
Distribution: usa

In article <204684@unix.cis.pitt.edu>, pmmst8@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Paul M Mweene)
says:
>
>see you at the 50 yd line of Pitt stadium
>
>Makala

This is not meant as a flame, and I've asked my sister who graduates in PT
from Pitt this year, and other PennStaters who live in P'burgh...Why will
you be the only one in Pitt Stadium?

I can't understand why there is no support for Pitt football, or other
sports for that matter.  There is a strong history of championship football.
Pittsburgh is a big Steelers town.  I don't get it.  Is it because of the
perceived bad neighborhood in Oakland?  I know there is no parking at the
stadium but what gives?  The student section for most games that I saw on
TV (Big East network) was empty or darn close.

Ed Gannon

  Edward J. Gannon (GU7@PSUVM.BITNET)        My two favorite football
  Dept of Civil Engineering                  teams are Penn State and
  The Pennsylvania State University          whoever is playing Pitt.
From: duh@milton.u.washington.edu (Brother)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Colt's Picks
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:07:14 GMT
Organization: University of Washington


     I just read in the U.S.A. Today that the Colts are definitely taking
Emtman with their first pick and they are starting to negotiate, but weren't
sure about who to take with their #2.  But I've heard that they are leaning
towards that defensive player from Pitt.  They're also thinking of taking
Desmond Howard to replace the void Rison left behind, but seriously, how
will he handle the pros if he couldn't even handle the Huskies' defense in
the Rose Bowl?  In my opinion, he's another hyped up player who will be a
good pro, but not a deserved #2 pick.  Even Mario Baily outplayed him in the
Rose Bowl, and had similar stats as Howard.  Only reason Howard got the
Heisman was because University of Michigan spent major bucks promoting
him.  My two bits worth


Darius Howard
From: ddavidson@cbacc.cba.uga.edu (Dennis Davidson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Tennessee schedule
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:41:04 GMT
Organization: Terry College of Business, University of Georgia

Would someone post me the Univ. of Tennessee football schedule for 1992. 
Thank you in advance.

Dennis Davidson  ddavidson@cbacc.cba.uga.edu
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From: stassen@alc.com (Chris Stassen)
Subject: Re: SWC (was Re: 1992 Bowl matchups)
Organization: The Lion's Den, San Jose
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:23:08 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.210529.12310@rice.edu>
	rbutera@sawwhet.owlnet.rice.edu (Rob Butera) writes:
> Back when I was at GT and we played Virginia Tech, there was a bit of
> campus folklore that said that a Hokie (I think that's what they're
> called) is really a castrated turkey.  Is this true [...]

My theory is that a "Hokie" is what you get when you cross a
Hoosier and an Okie.  In which case:

	1) That's much worse than being a castrated turkey.

	2) Net.God Sid Kitchel is one.

:-) :-) :-) 
-- 
Chris Stassen			408-943-0630			stassen@alc.com
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Subject: Re: Turkey Dinners (Re: Hokie/Gobbler - the REAL 
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 13:36:49 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Distribution: na
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <1992Apr15.200310.2462@mcc.com>, richter@mcc.com (Charlie Richter) writes:
>> Sweetened or unsweetened?
>
>Unsweetened!  No self-respecting human, nor even a hokie-gobbler-turkey,
>would put sugar in iced tea.  Cough, gag, spit, wheeze.
			       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That's about the way I feel about tea(hot or cold) - sweetened or 
unsweetened.
--
Scott D. Davis <scott@mccall.com>       The McCall Pattern Company
(uucp: ...!widener!depot!mccall!scott)	615 McCall Road
(800)255-2762, in Kansas (913)776-4041  Manhattan, KS 66502, USA
From: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Another Time Wasting Topic
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:48:03 GMT
Reply-To: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Distribution: na
Organization: Florida State University

In article <1992Apr14.212414.874@walter.bellcore.com> kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge) writes:
>No, you must be thinking of your own "Chop Chop Song" or whatever it's 
                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[Yes, a little foresight on my part could have prevented this abuse]i

>called.  "Hail to the Victors" is mostly played after a score or at the 
>beginning and end of a game.  However, during most of the FSU games I 

Hmmm...well ya did score 31 points, so maybe that's why it seemed so
interminable! ;)

>That will go down IMHO as the most overplayed song/chant I ever heard 

Yeah...I hate it...it's stupid...maybe it'll go away some day.
(I've heard real Seminole sing before, and it sure doesn't sound like
the moaning and groaing you hear in the stands)

David Poore
poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu

>-- 
>
>Kevin H. Klinge
>Bell Communications Research
>kevink@soac.bellcore.com
>
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From: lein@base.bellcore.com (John Leinaweaver)
Subject: Re: Miami and the Big East (was ANYONE INTERESTED IN GATORS' SCHEDULE)
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 18:44:51 GMT
Keywords: Miami, Big East, 92 Schedule

In article <1992Apr17.173012.2538@walter.bellcore.com>, kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr17.165820.23529@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, lein@base.bellcore.com (John Leinaweaver) writes:
|> |> 
|> |> Miami came out of this a big winner finanically, share the Big East basketball 
|> |> money and pretty much dictate the financial terms for having their football team
|> |> play in the Big East.
|> |> 
|> |> The big loosers will probably be the Atlantic 10 schools in this conference,
|> |> Not only do they have the Big East cutting their finicial throat in Basketball
|> |> but now have to share their football revenue with them.
|>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> 
|> Yeah, I guess Rutgers, Temple, WVU, and Va Tech (even though not an A10 school)
|> are really going to be hurt by sharing football revenue with the likes of
|> Miami and Syracuse, two teams who go bowling most years during the holidays.  
|> Some teams should be so unfortunate!
|> 
I wouldn't put down WVU so quickly, they're a well coached team that did a fair amount of bowling in the 80's (at least on par with Syracuse).  

Let's look at basic questions, Why did the Big East Join with Rutgers, Temple,
WVU, ...?  Why not join in basketball as well?  Why did the east never form an all sports conference like the rest of the country?

________________________________________________________________________________ 
John Leinaweaver
lein@bae.bellcore.com
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From: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell)
Subject: Virginia Spring Game
Originator: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 12:02:34 GMT


Virginia held their annual Spring game Saturday in Charlottesville. The
defense won, 17-14 in a scoring system devised by defensive coordinator
Rick Lantz where the offense scores points as normal and the defense gets
1 point for stopping the offense on downs and 3 points for a turnover.

The offense wasn't exactly stellar according to news reports and the 
game was dominated by defense. The quarterback situation is still unclear.
Rising Third-yearman B.J. Hawkins, who transferred from Notre Dame, completed
3 of 7 passes for under 100 yards and was sacked twice. Two of those
passes for 30 yards came on the last two plays of the game. Rising
Fourth-yearman Bobby Goodman completed 4 of 8 (I believe) and red-shirt
First-yearman Mike Groh also saw significant playing time. George Welsh
said that none of the quarterbacks have the lead and he won't name
a starter until the fall. Hawkings is highly touted, but I would think
Goodman has the edge right now because he started twice for Blundin last
year and knows the system. Welsh also said that they limited the offense
somewhat because they thought scouts from Maryland were in attendence at the
game. Terry Kirby had 52 yards on 11 carries. Fullback Gary Steele and
Tight End Aaron Munday are injured and did not play - they also will not
complete the last week of Spring practice, which is this week. 

So, Cavalier fans will have to wait a few months to fid out who will be
the starting QB and what the offense will look like without Matt Blundin. 
The opener is September 5 against Maryland at Scott Stadium.



-- 
Charlie Cockrell                          VV     VV 1991 Men's Soccer Champs.
NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Va. VV   VV  1992 Men's NIT Champions  
U.Va. School of Engineering, Class of 1990  VV VV   1991 Women's ACC BB Champs.
(These are my opinions only)                 VVV
From: mvaldes@chapman.next.nd.edu (mauricio valdes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: ND 1992 Football Schedule
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:58:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr16.205839.4959
Organization: University of Notre Dame

Date		Opponent		Place
-------------------------------------------------------------
9-5		Northwestern		Soldier Field
9-12		Michigan		South Bend	
9-19		Michigan State		East Lansing
9-26		Purdue			South Bend
10-3		Stanford		South Bend
10-10		Pittsburgh		Pittsburgh
10-24		BYU			South Bend
10-31		Navy			Meadowlands
11-7		Boston College		South Bend
11-14		Penn State		South Bend
11-28		USC			Los Angeles	

*  All home games kick off at 1:50 EST
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From: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell)
Subject: Re: Another Time Wasting Topic
Originator: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:51:57 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.181335.11165@rice.edu> rbutera@barred.owlnet.rice.edu (Rob Butera) writes:
>Fight/School songs.  The best.  The worst.  The stupidest.
>
>My vote:	I'm a Ramblin' 'Reck ... (its got it all  - wine, women,
>					  song, engineering, anti-UGA stuff)
>
>		(actually, someone else on the net claimed that the 
>		Ramblin' 'Reck tune is stolen from the school song of
>		the Colorado School of Mines.  I do know that the song is
>		a takeoff of "Son of a Gondolier" - does this also happen
>		to be their school song?)
>
>Stupidest:	Clemson fight song.  What other school's fight song is so
>		lame that the only lyrics are the letters of their name? :-)
>
>Overplayed:	If I hear one more fraternity/sorority/social club that has
>		a drinking/partying/goof-off song to the tune of Notre Dame's,
>		I think I'll puke.  However, I don't hold Notre Dame at fault
>		for this (until we start hearing it on NBC commercials ...)
>
>Boring:		UVA singing their version of everyone's favorite New Year's
>		Eve song.
>

Actually, a little known fact is that everyone sings The Good 'Ole Song
with the wrong words on New Year's Eve. I admit it's not the most exciting
thing in the world, but it's a tradition, which counts for everything at
Virginia. We really don't have a fight song - drinking songs, yes - but no
fight song. 





-- 
Charlie Cockrell                          VV     VV 1991 Men's Soccer Champs.
NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Va. VV   VV  1992 Men's NIT Champions  
U.Va. School of Engineering, Class of 1990  VV VV   1991 Women's ACC BB Champs.
(These are my opinions only)                 VVV                        
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From: mln@icase.edu (Michael Nelson)
Subject: Re: Hokie/Gobbler - the REAL answer
Organization: ICASE/NASA Langley
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:14:28 GMT

[lots of detailed Va Tech history deleted]

good show Kevin!  can't have all those hoos and 
jackets smearing our good name...

Michael Nelson
From: gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne "Goober" Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Another Time Wasting Topic
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:11:11 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station

In article <1992Apr15.142748.7257@ods.com> scott@ods.com (Scott Harper) writes:
--Also, a few years back, I believe they may have played the whole
--game, including when the opponent had the ball. I was at an
--A&M/SMU game in Texas Stadium around '85 or '86 (pre-death penalty)
--and late in a very close game the SMU *band* was actually given a
--critical unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for playing while A&M
--was in the huddle. Kept the drive alive, and A&M ended up winning.
--I suppose the band had been warned a couple of times. I remember
--this was one of the first times that (at the time) new rule was
--enforced.
--
--Anybody else remember this?

Yup, I was at that game too.  I remember that we were quite a bit behind
at one time.  That is the only time that I've seen a penalty called on
the band.

- goob (time waster extraordanaire) smith

-- 
Racism Sucks!
From: kitchel@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Sid Kitchel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: SWC (was Re: 1992 Bowl matchups)
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:56:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr8.165628.22005
Distribution: na
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University

navarrer@bionette.CGRB.ORST.EDU (Roy Navarre -- Botany and Plant Pathology) writes:

|>In article <11997@tamsun.tamu.edu> gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne "Goober" Smith) writes:
|>>In article <70005@ut-emx.uucp> jay@astro.as.utexas.edu (Jay Boisseau) writes:
|>>
|>>[jay creams all over himself while describing UT academic prowess]
|>>
|>>Yeah but your mascot is a cow.
|>>
|>>- gary (are you guys really proud of this) smith
|>>
|>>-- 
|>>Racism Sucks!

|>Somebody get the butterfly net.
|>Is this guy for real?
|>Jay's article stuck to facts--cant you do the same?

	Well, what are the relevant facts when discussing academics
on rec.sport.football.college??? If a school chooses a cow as a
mascot, dresses itself in burnt(????) orange and uses stollen fight
songs, is it really to be taken seriously -- academically or
athletically?? Then to top it, they hire a football coach from a school
well known within the Big 10 for leaving NCAA rules severely bent
whenever it encounters them.
	I'm with Goob: is t.u. really proud to have a cow as a
mascot?? The thinking, academic public wants to know!!

						--Sid
-- 
Sid Kitchel...............WARNING: allergic to smileys and hearts....
Computer Science Dept.                         kitchel@cs.indiana.edu
Indiana University                              kitchel@iubacs.BITNET
Bloomington, Indiana  47405-4101........................(812)334-8100
From: rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: 1992 Gator Schedule and Recruit List
Keywords: Waheed, where is it?
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:26:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T


So, where the hell is the damn thing?
Has anybody seen or heard from Waheed?
Alright, which one of you scared off Waheed?



-- 
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