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From: gabriel@sgi.com (Gabriel Villalobos)
Subject: Re: Shitty NBC coverage: Please post results
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 00:02:31 GMT

In article <mikec.712277247@unixg.ubc.ca> mikec@unixg.ubc.ca (Michael Cherkassoff) writes:
>In <-glmpxd.rlerdorf@netcom.com> rlerdorf@netcom.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) writes:
>
>>I find myself in the extremely unfortunate position of being stuck in the
>>States during the Olympics.  I am thus forced to sit through incredibly
>>bad coverage and countless Coca-Cola pitches from Randie Travis..  I really
>>miss Canadian Olympic coverage here.  I am also (yet again) missing the
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It is just deplorable NBC's coverage, I wish there was a way to boycott these 
these bastards!
I can't believe they don't even acknowledge the effort of their own soccer team,
the youth soccer movement in this country is like an 'underground guerilla', that
remains ignored or oppressed for some estrange reason, it is just beyond me!!
I guess is all matter of business $$$, 45 minutes of un-interrupted time, is too
much for them.

>
>Don't worry. It's even worse 8-(. (I know, it's hard to imagine,
>but it really is).
>
>>plight of Danish soccer.  Please post results and summaries of all the games.
>>NBC has yet to even mention soccer and they will only show the Gold medal
>>game next Saturday.  
>
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>
>Michael.


Saludos/Greetings


-G



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From: ewstroup@cc.utah.edu (ERIC W. STROUP)
Subject: Re: I believe!  I believe! (was Re: NBC triple cast, triple flop !!!!)
Reply-To: ewstroup@cc.utah.edu
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: 31 JUL 92 10:03:00    

In article <1992Jul31.012429.22534@wam.umd.edu>, waddlech@wam.umd.edu (David Akkarach) writes...
>Wow, I'm just overwhelmed at the response this thread has been getting! :-)))
>Hate to sound like a pessimist, but let's get real. All of our efforts
>so far for the nbc comments seem like a lost cause.
> 
>We should be channeling our energy towards ABC and ESPN, who own the rights
>to the WC'94 in this country. If we are really desperate, we can make
>something out of our efforts by urging ABC and ESPN in the next few weeks
>with lots of calls for European soccer!
> 
>This is a more realistic approach since both of those networks seem have to 
>invested some money into the game and maybe they'll think for once about
>educating the American public before throwing matches on tv in '94 and
>get bad ratings since most people haven't had time to become addicted yet! ;-)
> 
>Please call ABC and ESPN in the coming month so we all can see soccer before
>it's too late. The European soccer season starts in Sept., with matches
>in the UK starting this week. Good luck!
> 
>Let's all suck up to ESPN and compliment them on their superb production of
>German Soccer Weekly.
> 
>-Dave
> 
>p.s. if anyone has the phone #'s and addresses of ABC and ESPN, please POST
>     IT! THANKS.>------------------------------------------------------------------------------

In an article way back these numbers were posted:

ABC Sports     (212) 887-4867
|CBS Sports     (212) 975-4907
|ESPN           (203) 585-5000
|NBC Sports     e Network  (713) 661-0078
|RAI/USA                (212) 468-2500
|Sportchannel
|- America      (516) 921-3764
|TNT            (404) 827-1111
|Telemundo      (212) 492-5500
|TSN (Canada)   (416) 449-2244
|UNIVISION      (305) 471-4106

-Eric

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: jmcbride@ccvax.ucd.ie
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: David Rocastle
Date: 23 Jul 92 08:45:38 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

I was just half-listening to Today on Radio 4.  I think I heard them say
something about Arsenal selling David Rocastle for 2 million.  Who to?  
I didn't even know he was thinking of leaving.  Any more details would be
gratefully received.





james p mc bride
ucd, dublin
ireland
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: root@ncube.com (Operator)
Subject: DATES and TIMES
Organization: nCUBE HeadQuarters
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 00:23:21 GMT


Does anyone know of the dates and times the rest of the
soccer games in olympics? Maybe some satellite stations
broadcast them.


Captain Zod...
zod@ncube.com
From: rcampb@carson.u.washington.edu (Russell Campbell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: New APSL team news - LA Salsa
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:02:08 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

I got this from a chap that checks the clarinet news service misc sports
category this morning.

-russ

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                               Soccer
	The Los Angeles Salsa, the newest entry in the American Professional
Soccer League, has named Rick Davis as its general manager and Rildo
Menezes head coach. The club, which begins play next season, also
announced it would play its home games at the new 10,000-seat stadium on
the campus of Cal State-Fullerton.
	Davis, 33, was one of the top American players in the North American
Soccer League in the late '70s and early '80s, playing for the New York
Cosmos alongside such luminaries as Frank Beckenbauer and Giorgio
Chinaglia. He also captained the U.S. national team for a decade
beginning in 1979.
	Menezes, 50, appeared in 65 games for the Brazilian national team,
capping his international career by scoring against Portugal in the 1966
World Cup played in England.
From: irp@ukc.ac.uk (I.R.Pletcher)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: English Transfers
Date: 22 Jul 92 12:31:28 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.


	Since a couple of people have asked I will try and mention some of
the major transfers that have occurred in England this summer. Since I am
doing this from memory there may be some mistakes, particularly in terms of
fee.

Firstly two transfers which are expected to go through in the next couple of
days are

	Alan Shearer, Southampton to Blackburn, 4million pounds (a UK record).
	Trevor Steven, Marseille to Leeds, 2.5million pounds.

OK Transfers which I know have gone through are as follows

David James, Watford to Liverpool, 1.5million.
John Jensen, Danish club - Arsenal, fee unknown.
Darren Anderton, Portsmouth to Spurs, 1.7million.
Jason Cundy, Chelsea to Spurs, 350,000
Neil Ruddock, Southampton to Spurs, 700,000
Peter Beadle, Gillingham to Spurs, 350,000
Dean Austin, Southend - Spurs, 400,000
Kerry Dixon, Chelsea - Southampton, 575,000
Chris Waddle, Marseille to Sheff Wednesday, 1.5million
John Beresford, Portsmouth to Newcastle, 750,000
Dean Holdsworth, Brentford to Wimbledon, 1million + players

Thats about all I can remember off hand although to be honest the summer
transfer market seems to to be just getting going. Other names whom speculation
centres on at the moment include 

Andy Townsend - Chelsea to Man Utd ?
Ray Houghton - Liverpool to Chelsea/Aston Villa ?
Donkey Smith - Arsenal to Aston Villa/Everton/Chelsea/Southampton ?
Peter Beagrie - Everton to Southampton ?
David Rocastle - Arsenal to Leeds ? (If Trevor Steven deal falls through.)
Denis Wise - Chelsea to Wimbledon ?
.

I would expect a further flurry of transfer activity from Blackburn, Kenny 
"I'm trying to spend all of Mr Walker's money" Dalglish seems not to be content
with all of his new signings. The other Shearer who joined from Swindon lasted
less than two months before transfering to Abeerdeen and I suspect that before
to long either Mike Newell, Roy Wegerle to be on the move once more.

Southampton will have money to spend if the Alan Shearer deal goes through so I
would expect them to be in the market to replace Shearer. They are also in
danger of losing Barry Horne who wants to leave some a couple of decent
midfielders might well be on Mr Branfoot's shopping list, although most Saints
fans I know doubt whether Mr branfoot would know  a good player if he scored 
twenty goals a season and was an England international.

Ian      

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Horse standing on a football
Date: 22 Jul 92 12:27:57 GMT
Organization: ICL Bracknell, UK

Any Ipswich Town fans around?

Mart

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From: Lars Thore Aarhus <larsaa@ifi.uio.no>
Subject: Re: Eric Wynalda News
        16:54:25 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
        <1992Jul22.165425.4388@pony.Ingres.COM>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 12:37:25 GMT
Originator: larsaa@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no

In article <1992Jul22.165425.4388@pony.Ingres.COM> cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris) writes:

> In article <1992Jul22.121058.1889@europa.asd.contel.com> andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa) writes:
> >From Soccer America:
> >
> >US Striker Eric Wynalda scored his second goal in as many games since joining
> >FC Saarbruecken of the German Bundesliga.
> >
> >Wynalda connected in the 25th minute of a preseason game against Swedish First
> >Division club Hammarby July 8 as Saarbruecken captured a 3-1 victory.   The
>                                                           ^^^
> Funny, there was a posting the other day saying that Hammarby won
> this game 3-0...
>

 The reason is simple:

There were two different games , both from the same group in the
Inter-Toto-tournament. The first one I refered to was played in
Stockholm on July 8 and ended 3-0 to Hammarby. The other one in which
Wynalda scored one of the goals was played in Saarbrucken on July 11
and was won by the home team 3-1.

 For those of you who don't know , the Inter-Toto-tournament is a
pre-season tournament open to European countries (and Israel) 
in order to have enough interesting matches to fill the Toto-coupon
(12 or 13 matches) in many European countries during the summer-break.
The alternative would have been Swedish,Norwegian, Finnish  or
Icelandic league matches since theses countries are the only ones 
who play during summer. This summer the Inter-Toto consists of 40
teams which are divided into 10 groups of 4. 
 
> >
> >Andy
> > 
> 
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> 
> "And there'll be more football in a moment, but first we've got
>  highlights of the Scottish League Cup Final" -- Gary Newbon

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: JI.RCB@isumvs.iastate.edu (Robert Bergmann)
Subject: Olympic 2nd round results
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:57:41 GMT

Any results form second round Olympic games?  According to my schedule
U.S. vs. Kuwait and Italy vs. Poland got orer about an hour ago.
From: meir@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (Yigal Meir)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: EC1 Draw ?!
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:42:06 GMT
Reply-To: meir@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (Yigal Meir)
Organization: UCSB Physics Department


 No one has posted, so far, the draw for EC1 preliminary and first
  rounds. Can a good soul out there do that ?

----------------
Yigal Meir
From: mazzarel@spam.berkeley.edu (Ariel Mazzarelli)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Official Judge and Jury
Date: 27 Jul 1992 08:34:38 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
NNTP-Posting-Host: spam.berkeley.edu

In article <12635@crab.rl.ac.uk> kml@inf.rl.ac.uk (Kevin Lewis) writes:
>
>Even with all the talent he has, he cannot be bracketed with others such as
>Moore, Charlton, Pele, Beckenbauer, Cruyff, Platini, Gullitt, Matthaus. -
>who were all great players and great role models.
>

That one may rank players,  and not include Maradona among the top eight,
is possible when one gives great latitude to taste.  But when such a list
would include two mediocre English players,  it smacks of madness.

Ariel

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From: dsamm@boi.hp.com (Dan Sammartino)
Subject: LA Friendship Cup on Univision
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:25:32 GMT

The LA Friendship Cup (LA Cup) will be shown this Sunday, 2 August
at 4 p.m. Eastern time.  They will be showing "both games in a 
condensed format".  I assume this means Sunday's games not Friday's.
The show will be two hours long (for those of you that need to set 
your VCR's :-) ahead of time).  The Univision phone number for sports
programming is in Florida (Miami I believe) 305/471-3900.  

They also told me that they will NOT be showing ANY Olympic soccer.
Those rights are owned by NBC (which is obviously not using them).
I don't understand why NBC didn't sub license the soccer rights to
Univision or Telemundo.  This would help them get back some of the
$150 million they are losing on this "Olympic broadcast".  But more
importantly the real soccer fan(-atic)s could see some international
competition!

Heja Sverige!

Dan

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From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Scottish News 22-July 1992
Summary: 5 in a row, treble, trophyless Celtic
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:20:48 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

Scottish News 22-July 1992
=============

Billy Drinkell has signed for Falkirk from Coventry...............Celtic
have now won 3 games on their tour of Ireland (5-0 Irish League Select;
3-1 Man City and 2-0 Cork)......in addition Paul McStay wins his first
trophy as Celtic captain....the Irish Gas Board trophy...wooooooooooooohhhh...
Liam Brady criticises Cork for the state of their new stadium....people
in middens shouldn't be so choosey.......Celtic seem set to sign an Albanian
internationalist, Rudi Vata..........Norwich decide not to sign Peter Grant
of Celtic after all......."He is a class player after all, but we had other
options", says the Norwich manager....well seeing they nearly got relegated
last season.......Rangers seem to have backed out of re-signing Trevor Steven
from Marseille...asking price was 3 million pounds with Rangers prepared to
offer about 2 million....maybe when they play Marseille next week in Glasgow
they'll leave the player behind.......Rangers reject an offer from Seville
for Miko........at least some foreign clubs are interested in midfileders
playing in Scotland after all..........Scottish TV and BBC Scotland announce
new TV deals to show more football next season, including all Premier League
goals plus bit's and pieces from the lower divisions....the deal is only
worth a few million to the SFA and Scottish League.....nothing compared
to the new English Premier League deals......BSkyB  don't seem too keen
to renew their deal from last season.....could the SFA be to blame for their
obnoxious attitude....loads of pish friendlies being played just now.....
at least season ticket holders at the Ibrox Palladium will get in for nowt
to see Marseille next week....wish I was one of the 30 000 :-(

Sandy Mackinnon
University of Strathclyde
Glasgow
cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
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From: halvard@trd.sdata.no (Halvard Halvorsen)
Subject: Re: denmark vs ghana
Organization: Skrivervik Data A/S
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 09:55:30 GMT


from the glimpses we had on norwegian TV last night it looked like 
Ghana should have taken this one. lots of great chances with players
being alone with the danish goalkeeper. it looked like ghana had some
really fast players - denmark had a shot in the bar (deflected free kick).
i hope Ghana go through - they played some very attractive soccer in this one -
ahh - and the danish goalie was excellent - specially in one on one situations.

it sure did not look like the 'usual 0-0 game'.


In article <6227@kielouta.fi>, csfraw@kullero.uta.fi (Francis Akoto) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul29.014904.21781@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> CS19240760T@LUST2.LATROBE.EDU.AU (VURGUN, SINAN) writes:
|> >could somebody please post the result of the ghana vs denmark 
|> >game today.
|> >			thanx
|> *************************************************************************
|> 
|>             GHANA   0   DENMARK 0
|> --
|> Francis A-Akoto             | csfraw@vehka.cs.uta.fi| Who the cap fits let
|> Department Of Comp. Science | csfraw@kielo.cs.uta.fi| them wear it . 
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From: cbar40@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Darlinda beat this!
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:39:44 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

Well here goes ...


Celtic will win the Scottish Premier League.

Celtic and Rangers will split the two domestic cups - probably SKOL cup at
piggery and TSC stays at fortress.

Airdrie will remain in the Premier League.

Rangers will progress to Euro last 8 where-upon they will be outclasssed by the
remaining sides.

Celtic/Airdrie/Hearts and Hibs will all go out in the 1st round.

Plan for SSL will fold.

Don't care much about the lower leagues 'cept the fact that The Rovers will
certainly improve on last seasons league position - to think it was only three
years ago they won the league!

Manchester Utd. will win the English League.



That's it folks I'm offski on a DAN TOURS North American special for a month.


Dan
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From: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Football - Cork City 1 Chelsea 2
Reply-To: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 12:38:00 GMT

--

			Cork City 1 Chelsea 2

This was a much improved performance by Chelsea.  The first half was
dominated by the visitors and Cork failed to cope playing against a strong 
breeze.  Michael Devine -a young debutant -played well in the home goal.  He
saved well from a LeSaux shot and was always calm and confident.  Paul Elliott
finally opened Chelsea's account on 31 minutes when he headed home Denis 
Wise's free kick.  The Cork defence was marked absent for the cross.

The second half was a big improvement.  Both sides began brightly and Cork 
almost snatched an equaliser after good work from Tommy Keane.  Chelsea
survived a goalmouth scramble after a free kick and then broke away to kill
the game.  A great move involving a pass by Vinny Jones, a Denis Wise cross
and a lethal finish by Joe Allon ended the game as a contest.  Chelsea 
eased off the throttle and Cork came back but the result was never in doubt.
Pat Morley did get a consolation goal after Dave Barry tapped a free kick
to him.

Cork's new ground still needs a lot of work.  The stand was deemed unsafe by 
the county council.  There are rumours as to why this is so but I couldn't
put them in a public notesfile.  Suffice to say that the club don't find the 
council very helpful.  Another source claimed that the stand is unsafe and 
doesn't match the original plans.  The truth is probably somewhere in between.

The ground is a long way from town and games cause terrible traffic james 
in Bishopstown.  Still it's a brave move by the club and I hope it works
out.

Chelsea were well supported in the small crowd.  About 100 fans made the 
journey from England and there were Chelsea shirts liberally sprinkled among 
the crowd.  The 1200 programmes sold out pretty fast despite the crowd
barely exceeding that number.

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From: holzsche@prl.philips.nl (Con Holzscherer)
Subject: Re: Olympic Soccer--Standings
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:03:56 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.081829.26767@aie.nl> louis@aie.nl (Louis Kossen) writes:

>The team of Qatar always does quite well in qualification rounds and 
>I remenber they won the youth world championship about 8 years ago. 

   I remember that they lost the final against Germany.
                                                                         Con



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From: csp48@seq1.keele.ac.uk (J.W. Kirriemuir)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: A year
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:35:27 GMT
Organization: University of Keele, England

In article <9207232033.AA13205@BlackHole.hisoft.com>, james@hisoft.com (James C. Armstrong) writes:
> Chris Roberts asks: 
> ->                         but what's a year?
> 
> A year is a measurement of time normally associated with the Earth's
> revolution around the Sun.

Correct, but imcomplete. The above describes only a solar year. There
are other types of year, a selective list of which follows :

(1)  Lightyear - distance travelled in one year by matter from this
portion of the spectrum.
(2)  Cambridge year - the interval between two forward passes made by
Cambridge United players that stay generally below the level of the
stadium ceiling (re: Wimbledon year).
(3)  "Our year" - assertion made by manager of team about the prospects
for the forthcoming season, when his side has failed to win anything bar
the milko cows autuoplating 5-a-side challenge tournament in the last x
years (popularised by Howard Kendal). 
(4)  "League building / championship chasing year" - statement made in
october by a manager whose side has been knocked out of all the cup
competitions in the first round.
(5)  "Good year" - statement made by the England manager about his teams
performance, based on the grounds that relatively few matches were lost
(the fact that those that were stopped us reaching the latter stages of
a major tournament, and the ones we didn't lose weren't much better to
watch are irrelevant).
(6)  "His year at last" - oft spoken remark about Chris Waddles return
to the England footie side that transpires to be false every season, as
G.T. is too tightfisted to make an international call to ask him to play
("Why can't he ring me? Or respond to telepathy?")

Any additions?