HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
Subject: Re: WB connections with SupraFAX with v.32bis
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 02:47:30 GMT

In article <7DFRPB4w165w@hovel.welly.gen.nz>, cybapunk@hovel.welly.gen.nz (Phil Ross) writes:
> larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
> 
> > and one of the sites we connect to has a pair of SupraFAX v.32bis modems
> > running SCO 3.2 release 2.0 with the DTE locked at 19200 with hardware flow
> > control
> > would it be possible to improve on the connection speed with LAPM?  We
> > tried it once, but throughput appeared to decrease by about 15%.  I was
> > wondering if we change the LAPM window packet from 128 bytes would we
> > see any change in throughput?
> 
> I get 1450+ cps with v32bis on my Supra.  You should lock your DTE to 57.6k.


1450 Bytes/sec does not need 56K.
19.2 is more than enough for only 1450 B/s.

The net speed to the computer might be higher at a lower DTE speed, if
the computer is like many and has trouble keeping up at 56K.

Oh, well, this is an old argument.


Vernon Schryver,  vjs@sgi.com
From: tomc@siesoft.co.uk (Tom Crossland)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: 9600 D/L U/L With Telix Info needed: Help Please!
Date: 13 Aug 92 11:24:35 GMT
Reply-To: tomc@siesoft.co.uk
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Information Systems Ltd.

thompson@atlas.socsci.umn.edu (T. Scott Thompson) writes:

: Since GIF and ZIP files are already compressed, your V.42bis
: compression cannot make them smaller, and may actually make them
: larger.  Thus the best throughput that you can expect is 9600 baud
: with these files, even though your computer - modem connection is at
: 38.4.  Given this, I think that 900+ CPS is about as good as you can
: expect.  You might get slightly faster CPS by turning modem
: compression off when moving precompressed files around.

MNP5  could  make  it  larger,  not  V42bis. The difference is
that  V42bis  compresses  a packet, compares it to the size of
the  uncompressed  packet,  and  sends  the  smaller, hence no
loss of speed on precompressed files.

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From: mac1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mubashir Cheema)
Subject: Re: Best USR v32bis price
Organization: Mississippi State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:40:53 GMT

corson@dice.Eng.Sun.COM (Tom Corson) writes:

>Hi,

>I want to buy a USR v32bis modem with fax.  Can anyone out there point
>me to a vendor with the lowest price?

>Thanx,
>TC


 Hi Tom if you'd consider buying a Supra V.32bis, I am selling these at 
 the incredible price of $265. Here is some info

 
 These are all brand new, shrink-wrapped and come with latest ROM 1.200C

  Model #     : SUPFAXV32BIS
  Description : SupraFaxModem V.32bis
  Type        : External
  Speed       : 14,400bps data (upto 57000bps with data compression)
  Fax         : 14,400bps send/receive fax
  errors      : MNP-5 V.32bis
  other       :
                non-volatile memory; autoanswer/autodial (tone or pulse); 
                extended AT commands and result codes; includes diagnostics, 
                phone jacks, cable and subscriptions to free online services.
                5 year warranty.

  Asking : $265 + $7 (S&H)
   
     I also have few with WinFax software for Windows
     Can be had for another $30 
     Thanx alot for dropping in.

Mubashir

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From: bhendrix@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Brian Hendrix)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: ZyXEL telephone number, please
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 16:12:36 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Would some kind soul please tell me where I can reach the makers of the 
ZyXEL modems.  And is there anyone out there who knows of a Canadian 
distributor?
 
Thanks.
 

Brian Hendrix  bhendrix@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca  "Il faut etre de son temps"
Dod #754             '76 CB750-Four          
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From: garyng@netcom.com (gary )
Subject: Re: Digicom Scout Plus Usenet Offer
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 17:53:27 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <mac1.714242877@Ra.MsState.Edu> mac1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mubashir Cheema) writes:
>
>
> I have tried both the Digicom Scout Plus and Supra V.32bis Faxmodem
> and have found Supra to be far better than the Scout Plus
>

Not a rwar(I am also a Supra owner), but in what way do you think it is far
better than Scout+(other than you sell it :->) ?

-gary

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: tlm@nextasy.physics.mcmaster.ca (Tom Marchioro)
Subject: Some info on BFJ
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 03:28:07 GMT

I was worried enough about the BFJ situation that I contacted Supra
and told them about my concerns.  They were quite surprised to hear about
the troubles getting ahold of BFJ and checked through their records.  
Apparently they recently sent an order of modems to BFJ (I *hope*
mine was in that order. .. ) but otherwise knew of no changes.  They
asked to be kept informed in case there are continuing problems because, 
obviously, they have an interest here.

Most likely things are fine, since it's a fiarly old and stable company, 
and if there were some problems they would not still be accepting delivery
of new merchandise, but it seems rather odd than a company in the electronics
business can't have a working answering machines.  

I hope someone in Atlanta will go by and post whatever they can find
out about this situation.  


Hope this is Helpful --- Tom


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From: lfm@pgroup.com (Larry Meadows)
Subject: Re: Help needed with file transfer through NetBlazer
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:36:32 GMT
Organization: The Portland Group, Portland, OR


[ this bounced, utexas.edu isn't happy with lofaso and can't find any
  MX records for tsd.arlut or arlut ]

In article <1992Aug18.175155.17415@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu> you write:
>
>I've recently set up a NetBlazer here as a terminal server. Unlike other
>servers that I've used, I can't get Kermit, Xmodem, or Zmodem to work when
>dialed in to the NetBlazer. Can someone tell me what's wrong with my
>set-up? What changes do I need to make to the NetBlazer and/or the dial
>in modems to get these file transfer protocols to work?
>
>Bernie Lofaso
>Applied Research Labs

Works fine for me.  Could it be a problem with an 8-bit data path?
Can you be more specific?

-- 
Larry Meadows		The Portland Group
lfm@pgroup.com
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Date: Thursday, 13 Aug 1992 14:11:22 EDT
From: <SASBLB2@vm.sas.com>
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject:    info on CODEX 2131 needed

I recently obtained a Codex 2131 modem, now I searching for information.
Info on operation, its quality, how old it is, is it worth fooling with,
does it require special software etc., etc.

Bob Brumbeloe
SAS Institute, Inc.
(919) 677-8001 x6328
<sasblb2@vm.sas.com>
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: paul@tct.com (Paul Levin)
Subject: need advice on a modem purchase
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL
Distribution: fl
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:59:12 GMT


I am about to buy the following used modem from someone on the net (in CA).
Can someone tell me if it is a good modem.  I need a 38400 (v.42 bis) external
modem for an IBM AT clone.  It needs to be Hayes software compadible.

	The modem is:  Practical Modem 9600 SA
		  by:  Practical Peripherals

	Used Price:    $ 250

Is this a good modem ??  Is this a good price ??

Please respond via e-mail, as I do not subscribe to this group.
		paul@count.tct.com
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From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: Hardware vs xon/xoff flow control.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 04:18:26 GMT
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology

In article <1992Aug11.185428.13958@tvnews.tv.tek.com> dougs@tvnews.tv.tek.com (Doug Stevens) writes:
>....RTS-CTS ... I know that the
>the RS232 'standard' is not really a standard (in the sense of having all 
>details fully specified), but how off-the-wall is use of hardware flow control?

RS232C, the standard everyone has been using for umpteen years, has no
provision for it.  None whatsoever.  RTS and CTS are for line turnaround
on half-duplex modems, which have to be told whether to receive or transmit
at any given time.  RTS means "switch to transmit", CTS means "okay, I did".

RS232D, aka EIA232D, the latest revision, has an optional provision for
RTS-CTS hardware flow control.  Very few companies are aware of 232D in
any real sense yet.  However, unofficial use of handshaking has been so
prevalent in recent years that many people think that's what RTS and CTS
were always meant for.
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From: danr@ais.org (Daniel Romanchik)
Subject: Re: modem schematics
Organization: UMCC
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:18:35 GMT

In article <85917@netnews.upenn.edu> Mary.Hicks@f222.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG writes:
>
>Currently I am interested in Building My own modem (any speed will do),
>but in order to learn, I need to start off with some MODEM SCEMATICS.
>Can someout there please e-mail me some addresses of companies, that
>sell MODEM SCEMATICS? This would be very helpful to me. Does radio shack
>sell MODEM SCEMATICS? THANKS!
>
   My suggestion would be to go to the manufacturers of the modem ICs
(Rockwell, ATT, etc.) and try to get application notes for those ICs.
Manufacturers often write application notes that give typical circuits
for their ICs.

Good luck, Dan
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From: bn559@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jay Hughes)
Subject: Re: BFJ Enterprises / Supra
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 00:33:12 GMT


I ordered (tried) a Supra 14.4 from BFJ three different times,
delivered COD.  Never got it, I called, and called, and called,
and finally gave up.  Anyone actually GET one??  Everyone
I talked to on the phone were polite, and I had no problems
with them, just no modem....


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From: burgoyne@highlite.uucp (J. Robert Burgoyne)
Subject: Re: Gateway Telepath Modem
Organization: Gotham Communications Research
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 20:01:40 GMT

dgulkis@encore.com (Dan Gulkis) writes:
: Just a warning to the people interested in the Gateway Telepath modem.  The
: advertising states that you will get Crosstalk for Windows, WinFax Pro, and
: Qmodem.  And you will.

Hey, XTALK and WinFAX pro are great programs; I sure wouldn't complain
about receiving a version of Qmodem you don't like.

Robert
From: Zero.One@p6.f356.n103.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: ZyXEL: Firmware 5.00 soon across FTP...
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:08:15 GMT
X-Sender: newtout 0.01 Aug 21 1992


 > Hello ZyXEL's friends!

 > I've uploaded the new 5.00 version (sorry, only for the U-1496(S)
 > version)
 > and the documentation for this release on the FTP site
 > GRIND.ISCA.UIOWA.EDU.

 > I've also uploaded a full releases documentation (3.90 to 5.00).

 > Sincerely Yours...

Andrew,

I have to ask you to stop making our any file that *WE AT ZyXEL* do not give
to the general public available for FTP.  The only people that should have any 
beta source code are our beta testers.  To become a beta tester you must sign 
a form that contains amoung other things a "Non-Disclosure" clause.

Thank you in advance for removing *ALL* ZyXEL beta source code.

Tyrone Horton
(Zero One)
Tech Support
ZyXEL USA


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From: dross@cambizola.cs.wisc.edu (Dan Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: SupraFaxModem v.32bis for sale
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:20:17 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences

In <mac1.714242064@Ra.MsState.Edu> mac1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mubashir Cheema) writes:
>sep@netcom.com (Scott Pendleton) writes:
>>For sale:
>>SupraFaxModem v.32bis Modem
>>Data and Fax modem
>>4 months old
>>[...]
>>FaxSTF software included (Macintosh)
>>HWHS cable for a Macintosh computer included
>>I'm selling it for finance a Telebit WorldBlazer purchase!
>>Asking $300.00
>         ^^^^^^

>  No flames intended. I sell these modems for $265. These are brand new,
> shrink wrapped, and come with the latest 1.200C ROM

Someone else had them for $290, too.  Are these Supras with the hardware
handshaking cable for the Mac ($15), and FAXstf ($50) included (as well
as the totally useless MicroPhone 1.6 terminal package)?  Note that it 
is illegal to copy FAXstf from a friend (and IMHO kind of cheap, considering 
the $$$ involved)...If not, then why are they such a great deal?

Dan
From: milan@cactus.org (Milan Patel)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: 12V or 24V DC modems needed
Date: 23 Aug 92 04:09:19 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx

Hello :

I need a 12V or 24V DC modem, preferably internal.  I have a piece of hardware
that has an internal power supply of 24V DC, which can be stepped down to
12V DC.  If anyone out there knows of the name(s) of the manufacturers of such
a animal, please let me know.

All your replies, suggestions are recommended.

reply to: milan@cactus.org
From: jwaleke@tcedge.mi.org (Jim Waleke)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Latest Sysop Prices ?
Distribution: world
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! v0.95f
Date: 17 Aug 92 11:59:07 EDT
Organization: EXCELSIOR! Tech Support BBS (313) 77-AMIGA

Boardwatch Magazine has the latest SysOp prices on a lot of Modems.  You 
should check them out...

USR's Dual Standard 16.8k with Fax is 449.

Supra's 14.4k with 14.4k fax is 249.

Both Sysop Deals.
From: Zero.One@p6.f356.n103.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: ZyXEL 16,800 and voice-mail
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:12:07 GMT
X-Sender: newtout 0.01 Aug 21 1992


 > Organization: SPECTROX SYSTEMS (408)252-1005 Silicon Valley, Ca
 > From: aaron@spectrx.saigon.com (Aaron Anderer - System)
 > Message-ID: so9PPB3w165w@spectrx.saigon.com
 > Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems

 > Zero.One@p6.f356.n103.z1.fidonet.org writes:

 >>  > What kind of protocol does the 16800 use? Is it compatible with
 >>  > anything on this planet?
 >>
 >> ZyXEL's 16.8k is an extention of V.32bis and as of this writing, it can
onl
 > y
 >> connect to another.  We have been in contact with other modem
manufacturers
 >  i
 >> regards to implementing it into their modems.
 >>
 >> Tyrone Horton
 >> (Zero One)
 >> Tech Support
 >> ZyXEL USA
 > well please talk to Supra about this.  I'm not sure if it is
 > possible to
 > push the rockwell 14.4k chipset to 16.8, but remember that the
 > 9600 chipset was
 > able to go up to 12k.  <sigh> I want a faster modem.

Aaron,

You will have to talk to Supra.  If enough of their users out there ask for
it, then maybe Supra will take the steps necessary to implement it.

Tyrone Horton
(Zero One)
Tech Support
ZyXEL USA


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From: at615@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Nick Lucky)
Subject: 8 WORD 2 STOP BIT=MORE CPS ???????
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 08:34:30 GMT


Can one of the big brains here explain to my what is going on here.
I have always thought that the correct setting for IBM (clone) board
was 8 word bits and 1 stop bit and have had things set that way for
two years now.  Now with a 9600 baud Okidata modem that I bought 6
months back I am just starting to use it to D/L and U/L from bbss.
I have seen all kinds of problems with this one board that runs one
of those new Surpa fax 14.4K modems. Like I can't D/L at speeds from
2400 up to 96000 or 38.4K with any protocol other than old X-modem CRC
or check-sum. With all of the others my D/L and U/L abourt for me.
At the same time I see that on the Supra board at any speed faster than 2400
the screens seem to pause in the middle of a line fo text. Some times it
pauses at the start of a line or at the end. The thing is that it cost
time to wait for all of these lines to fill the screen at 9600 and up to
the point that it is faster to call at just 2400. Now after getting my
modem and Telix V3.12 all set up for hardware control/ NOT X-ON X-OFF.
I saw no change at all, and I am on COM2  2F8 IRQ3. I just for kicks
changed my stop bit from 1 to 2 in the Telix and then tested the same
bbs again. Well I now see less screen pauses than I had before. My
CPS has gone from 905CPS best speed with 1K X-Modem\G when it would work
all the way up to 1245CPS using the same files for testing in all cases.
Now I can D/L and U/L with all of the other protocols as well and see
an increase with each of them. My point is HOW and WHY and WHAT is going
on that I ma doing so much better by using the wrong STOP bit on an IBM
system as this one with the SupraFax modem????? Can anyone explaine this??
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: uri@watson.ibm.com (Uri Blumenthal)
Subject: Re: ZyXEL 1496S - Should I buy one?
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:11:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Reply-To: uri@watson.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: Huh?

In article <14435@mindlink.bc.ca>, Mike_Benna@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Benna) writes:

|> 1) It's got all this neat stuff indicating signal strength, noise level,
|> etc. but how good is it at noise rejection?  My limited experience in
|> the past has indicated that USR Couriers and Hayes modems are very good
|> on noisy lines, and that Supras and Practical Peripherals are very poor.
|> How does it compare to those modems?

I have no experience with USR or Hayes. ZyXEL ls lots and lots better
than Microcom, in my case. The lines are rather NOISY. ZyXEL holds
the line acceptably.

|> 2) Does it have any problems connecting to other V.32/V.32bis modems?
|> In particular I'll be calling a USR Courier V.32, USR Dual Standard, GVC
|> V.32/V.32bis, and Practical Peripherals 9600SA modems on a regular
|> basis.  Does anyone have firsthand experience talking to any (or all) of
|> these various modems?

I'm doing a lot fo calling to V.32bis and V.32 modems. No problem. Only
that for stupid Microcom I have to explicitely tell ZyXEL to start
negotiating from V.32, because otherwise Microcom drops the
phone before ZyXEL has time to come all the way down from
V.32bis to V.32 (:-).

Actually - I'm connecting successfully to Telebit 2500, USR (whatever
the latest modems are) and to come Trailblazers in poor 2400 bps...
No problem in each case.

|> 3) How do you feel about the construction quality of your modem?  Do the
|> pieces of the case fit together properly?  Does it run hot?

Naw, it doesn't run hot. I'm satisfied with that. Yeah, case is
manufactored OK... I don't think it will come apart on you...
Come on, it's not Chevy 1986 (:-).

|> 4) Does the 1496S (as opposed to the 1496E) have an external volume
|> control?

Don't know. Never cared. Won't bother to take a look. (But the answer 
to your question is - probably not.)

|> 5) What kind of warranty does it come with, and has anyone needed
|> warranty service yet?  What were your experiences with warranty 
|> service?

Supposed to be five years.

I had to use it once (the ROMs were fried, I guess, or whatever).
I was satisfied.

|> 6) Finally, and probably most importantly, would you buy another one?
|> If not, why not?

Yeah, I would buy another one, even though ZyXEL Fax stuff somewhat
sucks. Well, they're improving it, and there is hope it will be
fixed. So I'll stick to them, I think.

Problems: fax firmware needs to be fixed. My current ROM release
has another noticeable bug with &D3, but I'm sure it's fixed in
the next release, and so far ZyXEL was pretty nice in giving
free upgrade if you hit a bug in their microcode. I have 
no complains so far (oh, I'm going to ask for another
upgrade soon, so we'll see if they're still as good
as they used to be :-).


[If I could sell those trash Microcoms I have in pile now! :-]

Regards,
Uri.
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From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Hardware vs xon/xoff flow control.
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:16:06 GMT

In article <5865.2a8a3f6d@hayes.com> tnixon@hayes.com writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.185428.13958@tvnews.tv.tek.com>,
>dougs@tvnews.tv.tek.com (Doug Stevens) writes: 

>> We're having a disagreement about how 'standard' use of hardware flow control
>> (that is, RTS-CTS signalling) is for serial communications. I know that the
>> the RS232 'standard' is not really a standard (in the sense of having all 
>> details fully specified), but how off-the-wall is use of hardware
>> flow control? 

>Hmmm.  As a member of the TR-30.2 standards committee on Data 
>Transmission Interfaces, which is the formulating committee for 
>EIA-232, I must first object (in a good-natured way, of course) to 
>the characterization of EIA-232 as being "not really a standard" or 
>"[not] having all details fully specified".  I can only imagine that 
>comment coming from someone who has not read the document.

Toby - while not having read the standard, years ago I was reading a
book on RS232 and it was detailing the pin connectors for a DB25.

I believe there were 6.  What I found amusing was the the 6th
'standard' was that pin 7 shall be signal ground, all others to be
user defined.

Using that as a guide, I have yet to find any RS232 that didn't meet
the 'standard'.   

Is that actually part of the connector specs?

Bill
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                - bill@bilver.uucp 
                - ..!{peora|ge-dab|tous|tarpit}!bilver!bill

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: sep@netcom.com (Scott Pendleton)
Subject: TB TrailBlazer+ for sale
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 01:25:08 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

For sale:

Telebit Trailblazer Plus modem (T-2000)
4 years old
Supports 19,200(PEP), 9600(Telebit proprietary),
     2400, 1200, 300 bauds
External model
Perfect for fast connections to other Telebit modems as well
     as slower connections to other modems
Asking $200.00

If interested please email me at the address below:


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