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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
Subject: Niners Win (Montana is Back - I hope)
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 05:10:26 GMT

FINAL:  Niners  24  Lions  6

Montana stats:  12/15  126 yds  2 TDs
Young stats:  12/18  153 yds  0 TDs

Scoring:  
Niners: Logan rushing TD Niners; Montana to Brent Jones TD
Montana to Amp Lee TD; Cofer 1 FG

Lions: 2 FGs

Joe Montana, though playing in a blustering, windy, rainy
cold Candlestick park did not do too bad considering his lengthy
absence from the game. Now I know that despite what he
accomplished tonight, there will always be the detractors.
They will not consider this is Montana's FIRST game in almost
two years.  In fact, I don't believe they give him credit
for anything he does. They will point out that any QB could
play in the Niner system and excel. NOT! Joe was able to 
demonstrate his skill to put the ball where necessary as the 
game progressed.  Any student of the game could detect his
composure and control under the conditions.  I for one
was impressed. For certain, the faithful 49ers fans who
were at Candlestick to watch the game thought it was all
worth it to see him throw a perfect strike to Brent Jones 
for his FIRST TD!   Montana received a well deserved
ovation from the Candlestick faithful and I can assure 
you that the patrons at the MNF game at Charlie Browns
were equally ethused!  His performance for 2 quarters was
pretty good, I'd say. Two TD's, and 126 yards passing, NO INTs.
Better than some QBs did this year playing 4 qtrs and playing
all year long!
-- 
 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
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everything or nothing about it."   Olin Miller
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From: claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird)
Subject: AFC West looks like NFC East (was: Coach of the Year nominees)
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 14:01:49 GMT

In article <QfDgvV_00WDK8CJ3cu@andrew.cmu.edu> vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Vernon H Harmon) writes:
			.
			.
			.
>games while the Chargers have finally managed to turn around their
>ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. The 'Bolts' end of
>the season run was made even better by their division dominance--winning
>in the King Dome and sweeping both the Seahawks and the Raiders. The
>only division team San Diego didn't beat at least once was KC, and
>they're getting a third try next Saturday. I really think that Bobby
			.
			.
			.
'Nother log on the fire of NFC vs. AFC posturing:
notice how the AFC West has been growing some
major-league (that is, NFC-style) defenses lately?
From what I can tell, everyone out there, except
for Denver, has a tough, challenging defensive
formation.  What does this portend for the future?

As for Denver, ... I'll let someone else say it.

Also, I assume there's general agreement that Bobby
Beathard is front-office deity of the decade.
-- 

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From: bderolf@encore.com (Brad DeRolf)
Subject: Re: Miami Dolphin Theme Song
Reply-To: bderolf@encore.com (Brad DeRolf)
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Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:03:52 GMT
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In <1992Dec21.223457.12092@cs.tulane.edu> stassin@gumbo (Shannon C. Tassin (USDA) ) writes:

>I am a big dolphin fan and want to get a copy of the song played when Miami
>scores, etc... 

I'm also a big Fin Fan, but I wouldn't subject my worst enemy to listening to
that song. Its old, outdated and pitiful. Try your local NFL alumni store or
call the one here in So. Fla. (305) 491-4766. I'm warning you though, the
song ____s.
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From: Frank Bilotti <frank@wanda.princeton.edu>
Subject: Re: Raiders vs. Redskins (CBS' unprofessionalism)
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 02:59:00 GMT

In article <Bzw5B5.33n@acsu.buffalo.edu> james e kist,
kist@acsu.buffalo.edu writes:
>After Washington's touchdown that put them in the lead 20-14 in the
fourth
>quarter, CBS displayed the words to "Hail to the Redskins" while the
>Redskins' marching band played the song. I thought that NFL football
>coverage was supposed to be unbiased. I guess I was wrong. This was a
very
>unprofessional move by CBS.
>
>Final Score:
>LA         21
>Washington 20

I agree... Does any other team get this type of coverage for their
cheers?  Maybe when the wave was a new thing, but then it was just camera
coverage, not a retarded sing-a-long!!

HAIL TO THE DEADSKINS!!!!  Lose in old D.C.... (Bouncing ball deleted)

FRANK
__________________________________________
Go 'Canes & Cowboys
frank@wanda.princeton.edu
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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Oilers vs. Browns
Date: 21 Dec 1992 15:34:49 GMT
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In <67199EK@netmbx.netmbx.de> rickk@netmbx.netmbx.de writes:

> Details appreciated, especially about the last three minutes.

  Can't tell you much besides they scored twice, and Lorenzo White had a
40+ yard catch and run on a 2nd and 23 on the final drive.

> what's the wildcard outlook for the Oilers?

  Because Miami beat the Jets, Houston has locked up a playoff berth.

> Thanx,
> der ricker

  Der Welcome


semper fi,

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From: GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Det/SF rehash, Niner prospects
Date: 30 Dec 1992 15:12:06 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
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In article <1hqgcjINNbh7@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>,
skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:
>In article <1992Dec29.210800.10793@pony.Ingres.COM> daveb@lotus (Dave Brower, DBMS hack, [510] 748-3418) writes:
>
>>The monster nightmare for SF is a mirror of 80/81.  Dallas shocks SF
>>for the NFC crown, Montana is gone and Young's ego never recovers.
>>Eddie throws in the towel after a few more years of futility, and the

>I would give up a win in the Superbowl just to pay SF back for the
>81 game, it would really be sweet to do it in the last 52 seconds.

As I see it, the Niners still owe Dallas two more paybacks!  It'll
be a pleasure if the 49ers deny you folks a another Super Bowl
appearance. Though they'll still owe you one more time :-)

Isn't it great that the 49ers get to travel to Dallas next season?


                                                     Tony
                                                  GO 49ERS!!!
From: sas@baffin.aruba.UUCP (Steve Sciandra)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Thomas out?
Date: 28 Dec 92 14:39:39 GMT
Reply-To: sas@opl.com
Organization: Marcam Corporation

in article 40809 , garret writes:

> The scary part of this is that the Oilers have to play the Bills in Buffalo
> next week! With Kelly and Thomas out this might throw all of the pre-playoff
> predictions out the window...

Thurman Thomas is out next week?  Any confirmations on this, this early!?!?

sas
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From: auwen@convex.com (John David Auwen)
Subject: Re: Dallas: Curvin Richards
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:25:55 GMT
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              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <C015EG.25o@abode.ttank.com> eric@abode.ttank.com (Eric C. Bennett) writes:

>If he is letting him go because of an attitude in practice that would be
>different. But, then again, what kind of attitude can you have at practice
>when you know you aren't going to play?

From the 12/29 Dallas Morning News:

	"It just got to where the concerns built up to the point where I
	 said, 'I've had enough,'" Johnson said.  "I want players I can
	 count on for the playoffs."

	 There were factors other than the fumbles that led Johnson to
	 his decision to release Richards, such as the perception among
	 the coaches Richards never fully committed himself to improving
	 as a player.

	 He consistently refused to take notes in meetings and was the 
	 only running back who chose not to complete an optional quiz
	 before Sunday's 27-14 victory over the Chicago Bears.

	"He knows why he's gone," running backs coach Joe Brodsky said.
	"For all the progress he has made - and he made a ton work-ethic
	 wise on the field - he never carried it over to the classroom
	 and the dependability issue."

	 Brodsky also said, "We also had fistfights about taking notes.
	 He doesn't take notes.  With some pro teams, if you don't take
	 notes, they drop you."

	"It's a shame," offensive coordinator Norv Turner said.  "But
	 considering the circumstances, if we were playing Minnesota in
	 the fourth quarter of a tight game, it would have been difficult 
	 to call a run that involved him."

	 Richards lost three fumbles in his 52 opportunities.  Smith
	 lost 2 in 432 chances.

>Anyway, I think it was a bad move on the part of the Cowboys.

I have a hard time arguing with the coaches who have worked with him
on a daily basis for the last several months.  Johnson is usually right
when it comes to making personnel decisions.

Dave
auwen@convex.com
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Subject: Vikes future
From: rykhus@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 3 Jan 93 08:04:58 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University


	I don't think the Vikes need a new QB as bad as everyone else
seems to think. Give Salsbury and Gannon a little experience and they
could both be good. What I believe they should pick up is an offensive
tackle, Irwin and Zimmerman are both getting on in years. Another
priority might be a wide receiver to help out or another RB to go with
Allen. They could also look for a tightend to replace Jordan in the
future. The good news is, finally there is a reason to look forward
to the draught as they have high round draught picks this year.

	Al
From: azjohn@eagle.larc.nasa.gov (John Paul Phillips)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Forget Reeves What about the Broncos
Date: 31 Dec 1992 15:53:06 GMT
Organization: NASA - Langley Research Center
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In article <1992Dec31.013401.8304@netcom.com>, mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael 
Zimmers) writes:
> 
> I have it on good authority that Adriene is a pseudonym for Adrian,
> who's really a guy who's into devil-worship; hense the allegiance
> to the NYG.
> 
> That (as well as my first post) were intended as dry humor, if you're
> nearly as dense as your post indicates.
> -- 
> Michael Zimmers                                    |  Home:  408 996 1984

Oh, so the original post was an attempt at humor? Pretty poor one, but then 
maybe I'm dense. One more criticism. It isn't devil-worship. It's Scientology.
Get it right...

           John Paul Phillips
                  "Azjohn"
NASA - Langley Research Center
        Hampton, Virginia, USA
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From: danp@nemesis.bsi.bellcore.com (Daniel Pomplun)
Subject: Re: AFC playoff picture
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 00:38:36 GMT


>	HOU ne SD DEN PIT		HOU ne SD DEN cle
>	    PIT	11-5 *    		    BUF	11-5 *
>	    BUF	11-5 *			    SD	11-5 *
>	    SD	11-5 *			    PIT	10-6 *
>	    MIA	10-6			    MIA	10-6
>	    HOU 10-6			    HOU 10-6
>	    DEN  9-7			    DEN	 9-7

I didn't check them all, but your statement about pittsburgh,
miami, and buffalo having a shot at home field caught my eye.

I believe in the right case, that SD gets home field advantage
based on a better conference record (9-5 vs. 7-5).  Buffalo and
San Diego did not play each other during the regular season.


Daniel Pomplun, Bellcore, danp@sabre.bellcore.com
Phone:  (908) 758-2740  Fax: (908) 758-4268
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From: evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Doug Evans - CIT Network Operations)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Jills had their ass kicked
Date: 28 Dec 92 14:42:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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In article <1992Dec28.072502.18765@PacBell.COM>, jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) writes...
>Ah HA, sounds like a whiner here! How about the Buffalo Bills
>were soundly beat by a superior Defense and a 2nd string QB?
>Or how about Machine Gun Kelly was injured and the Bills fell
>apart? No?! Hmmmm, how about Glenn has three INTs and Del Rio
>and company thoroughly beat (not kick ASS) the Bills. Anyway
>you want to interpret it, the Bill LOST! 

John, you're such a child.

You forgot to add, "Neener, neener, neener!"


Doug

                                  |                              Doug Evans
                                  | State University of New York at Buffalo
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From: hunt@shy.umd.edu (Brian Hunt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro,dc.redskins
Subject: Re: Pack/Skins/Eagles Tiebreakers ...
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:36:01 GMT

deanb@cray.com (Dean Barker) writes:
>Here is what I think is happening here. If Green Bay, Washington, and
>Philadelphia all end the season with 10-6 records, then Washington and
>Philadelphia have a divisional tie. Philadelphia wins the tie-breaker.
>So this means Philadelphia is NFC East #2 and Washington is NFC East #3.
>Now for wildcard sake, the Packers are tied with the Eagles for the #2
>wildcard spot. The Packers win the tiebreaker and the Eagles settle for
>the #3 wildcard spot.

>I believe the 3-club wildcard tiebreaker everybody is looking at only applies
>to 3 clubs all from different divisions.

Hmm, it looks like you're on the right track here.  This is probably
not quite as idiotic a way to break a tie as what I thought was going
on, but I'm not exactly won over by the merits of the above system.

Based on what I'd read in the Washington Post last week, I'd thought
that Green Bay would be ranked first out of the 3 teams on the basis
of an unfortunate interpretation of the head-to-head rule.  However,
today's Washington Post is more vague, which may indicate that the
above "break the division tie first" procedure is correct.

I just re-read the USA Today synopsis that has been posted here, and
there is a passage in there which had made no sense to me before but
now seems consistent with the above.  On the other hand, I have
another copy of the tiebreaker rules which was posted 2 years ago and
which talks about breaking a wildcard tie between "3 to 11" teams--if
division ties are always settled first then there should never be more
than 3 teams in a wildcard tiebreaker.  Does anyone know if there's
been a recent change in the tiebreaking procedure?

In any case, the media is not being overly clear about the reasons,
but they all seem to agree that if all 3 teams finish 10-6, the
ranking will be Packers, Eagles, Redskins.

Brian Hunt
hunt@ipst.umd.edu
From: chf0@harvey.gte.com (Curtis Fennell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Vikes and Bills observations (not the Chargers)
Date: 28 Dec 92 14:48:27 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories

In article <BzMoB5.6JL@acsu.buffalo.edu> v066pwk9@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (BRUCE YAEGER) writes:
>
>Houston, I don't think they can play against the top teams in the
>AFC, let alone a top team in the NFC.  They have a 3-4 record
>against winners, and a 4-0 record agains losers.
>
>Bruce, a Bills fan

You're probably right.  Houston doesn't seem to be able to beat the
top teams in the AFC.  Of course, they stomped the Bills well enough.

Curt

Curt "I always pick the Dolphins - even against Buffalo!"  Fennell
			DOLFAN in New England.             
'72 Dolphins - The perfect team in the perfect season - 17-0
'92 Dolphins - AFC East Division Champions




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From: bergerson@cvdv79.mayo.edu (Chad D. Bergerson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: CENTRAL DIVISION RIVALS 1970-92
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:07:58 GMT
Reply-To: bergerson@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Clinic, Rochester, MN


Chew on these numbers for a while:

                         1970-1992
Team                     record               win pct.     division titles
------------------      --------------        --------     ----------------
Minnesota Vikings       200 - 141 - 2          .587         ELEVEN
Chicago Bears           179 - 163 - 1          .523         EIGHT
Green Bay Packers       141 - 194 - 8          .421         one

Nuff said.....

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From: statz@gagme.chi.il.us (Louis B. Del Boccio)
Subject: Week #17 predictions by STATZ read first ( REPOST )
Originator: statz@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 06:22:07 GMT

Please ignore the article above... Sent wrong File.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 ( Sat - I )    |  ( Sat - II )   |                 |
N.O. -7.5 = 23  | Raiders   = 20  | Clev      = 14  | Den       = 19
NY.J      = 19  | Wash -14  = 23  | Pits -6.5 = 26  | K.C. -7   = 20
                |                 |                 |
----------------+-----------------+-----------------+---------------
                |                 |                 |
G.B.      = 19  | Indy -1.5 = 17  | Mia -10.5 = 21  | NY.G      = 17
Minn -3   = 24  | Cinn      = 23  | N.E.      = 17  | Phil -8.5 = 26
                |                 |                 |
----------------+-----------------+-----------------+---------------
                |                 |                 |
Chi       = 14  | Atla      = 20  | S.D. -8.5 = 21  | T.B.      = 19
Dal -10.5 = 24  | Rams -3   = 21  | Seat      = 20  | Phoe -6.5 = 20
                |                 |                 |
----------------+-----------------+-----------------+----------------
                |  ( Sun-night )  |  ( Mon-night )  |
                | Buf  -3.5 = 24  | Det       = 17  |
                | Hou       = 21  | S.F.-13.5 = 23  |
                |                 |                 |
                ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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From: kmelcher@rafael.Arco.COM (Kenneth Melcher)
Subject: Handley hardly knew what hit him...
Reply-To: kmelcher@rafael.Arco.COM
Organization: ARCO Exploration and Production Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 19:37:06 GMT


Q102 in Dallas just reported that Handley's OFFICIALLY out in NY (press conference just ended).  

As a life long Eagles fan,  I hate to see ya go,  Ray!
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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: Coaching Change in Chicago
Organization: University of Michigan
	<1992Dec30.202314.15310@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
	<BILLMS.92Dec30154108@gip.eecs.umich.edu>
	<1992Dec30.223540.20224@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 15:49:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.223540.20224@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn) writes:

   Oh, and BTW, Bill...by the time I replied to Tim's post concerning
   Ditka, I was well aware it was a joke and if you noticed the leettle
   smiling phases in my post, you'll notice that I too was joking...like,
   didn't you read the whole post, man! ;-) ;-) ;-) <== leetle smiling
   phases

Thats the problem with lettle smiling phases [sic].  I don't know if you are
saying the whole post is a joke or the sentence that contains the lsp or the
word infront of it.  I'm sorry for my mistake.  Clearly you meant the whole
post.  So that means this whole post that I'm responding to is a joke, so you
*didn't* really see the original joke, right?  

Bill
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From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: What's Up With Cofer?
Date: 30 Dec 92 01:56:57 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

Can any of you '9er fans clue me in on why Cofer had such an attitude
Monday nite?  Has he always been this sensitive? I don't believe he was
wavin' at mom, nor do I think it was "Thank you" that sprang from his
lips when he missed an early FG attempt.  Although he didn't repeat
this kind of display, he sulked and pouted for the rest of the game.  I
realize he hasn't had a banner year and as I understand it, he's heard
some boos at Candlestick other than the ones that made him throw a fit
last night, but cripes, Mike...your going to the playoffs on an
excellent team thats favored to go all the way.  Don't worry, mon, be
happy!! (That is unless you pull a Scott Norwood);-)

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