From: ee52fbc@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (Maiko Covington)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: AA crime scandal in Orange County
Date: 6 Jan 93 22:48:19 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1993Jan6.192914.8927@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:

>>A group of Chinese-American students at a prestigious Fullerton high school
>>murdered one of their members over the holidays and buried the body in
>>someone's backyard.  It turns out the group was likely dealing in the theft
>>and resale of computers and computer parts and the motive was a some deceit
>>about an upcoming theft.  The students were considered "good boys", high
 
>This fits in well with the following, which I have noted several times.
 
>The vast majority of post+1960's Chinese-American immigrants came from the
>upper privileged class from overseas.  One would tend to think that they
>would be less involved in crime than other immigrants who came largely from
>the underclasse or the middle class of their societies.
 
>On the contrary, among _all_ Asian-American criminal groups in the USA,
>Chinese-American gangs are the #1 major crime threat and, in fact, are
>the #1 major crime threat (among _all_ American criminal groups) in Northern
>California.
>
>This says a lot about Chinese-cu culture[1].

	"There is a white male in Wisconsin, who murdered at least 17 young
boys and men after sexually abusing them, and then proceeded to eat
them and store parts of them around his house. There was also a
white man named Charles Manson who had a cult, they killed a young
actress, her unborn fetus, and some other people. 
	There are more white people than any other race of people in
Northern California, therefore it stands to reason that THEY, and
not the Chinese, would be committing most of the crimes.
	This says a lot about white American culture."
Since most white Americans are the descendants of immigrants who
came here many generations ago, it's likely that most of them
identify themselves to be culturally American-cu. Hence, we can make
certain generalizations about American culture."

Does this sound logical??? Hell, no!! Well, neither does the post
that insipred this one... You cannot judge the Chinese culture, or
the American culture for that matter, by the actions of a few
people, ESPECIALLY people so deviant from the norm as these!


Dwight goes on to repost:
>An American 
>would be able to answer the following, whereas a Chinese-cu could not:
>
>(2)                  What is morality in human life?
>                     Is there a universal concept of certain
>                     fundamental rights?
 
Yah right, like you've interviewed personally every member of
Chinese culture to see if they can answer this. Give me a break.
 
>So, the next time that you look at a Chinese-cu Chinese-American family,
>if you see some straight-A kids, don't extrapolate that to mean that
>they are also decent people who believe in the same values that you do.
>Chances are that they don't.  _You_ may believe in human decency and 
>the Bill of Rights, but chances are that _they_ think quite differently.

Same goes for white people, green people, purple people... It is
silly to think that you can guess what goes on in ANYONE'S mind.
Check out the guy at the terminal across from you... Do you
seriously believe you can generalize what his/her value system is?

	Sorry to take up so much bandwidth on something so silly,
		Maiko

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