HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: LECTRICAMISH@DELPHI.COM
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: help with modem
Date: 8 Sep 92 02:55:28 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

> > I'm having a problem with setting up my modem with coherent, after
> > days of messing around with it, i finally figured out that my modem
> > defaults to "strapping" the DTR (no thanks to tech support i might
>
> How are MWC tech support supposed to know that your modem is brain-damaged?

Well, it would be nice if the technical support knew more then the end
user.  If i had known my modem was incompatible with coherent i would
have thought twice about buying it, unfortunately i can't return my
modem so it looks like coherent is the one that is gonna have to go
unless the problem is resolved.

> > add), so i now resorted to plugging in my ole 2400, and things almost
> > work (alot better then they did before, but anyway) i can dial out
> > fine, but when i try to get incoming calls - here is what happens -

> What's in your /etc/ttys? Is modeminit being called in /etc/rc? What does
> modeminit contain?

here is a copy of my ttys, modeminit and rc files, if i had known that
my modem was incompatible with coherent i would have certainly thought
twice about buying it.

0lLcom3r
1lPcolor0
1lPcolor1
1lPcolor2
1lPcolor3

# /usr/bin/modeminit 07/27/92
# Initialize modem, typically called from /etc/rc.
# This example initializes a Hayes-compatible modem for echo off, autoanswer.
# The sleep is required to keep the desired baud rate for the cat command.
#DEV=/dev/modem
#BAUD=2400
#sleep 2 >$DEV&
#stty $BAUD <$DEV
#cat >$DEV <<\!
#AT E0 V0 Q1 S0=1
#!
# end of /usr/bin/modeminit

DEV=/dev/com3l
BAUD=2400
sleep 2 >$DEV&
stty $BAUD <$DEV
cat >$DEV <<\!
AT E0 V0 Q1 S0=1
!

# end of my modeminit

: /etc/rc 07/03/92
: COHERENT executes this script when it comes up multiuser.

echo Going multiuser... >/dev/console

: Set the date.
. /etc/timezone
/bin/date -s `/etc/ATclock` 2>/dev/console

: Remove temporary files and clean up.
/bin/rm -f /tmp/* /usr/spool/uucp/LCK*
/bin/rm -f /usr/spool/[lh]pd/dpid

>/etc/mnttab
>/etc/mtab
>/etc/utmp

: Edit the file /usr/bin/modeminit and remove comment below
: if modem initialization is required, e.g. for autoanswer.
/usr/bin/modeminit

: Edit the file /usr/bin/ramdisk and remove comment below
: if ramdisk initialization is desired.
: /usr/bin/ramdisk

: Spawn background processes.
/etc/update&

: Mount file systems if appropriate.
/etc/mount /dev/root / -u
/etc/mount.all

# Cron MUST be started AFTER /usr/spool has been mounted.
rm -f /usr/lib/cron/FIFO
/etc/cron

: Remove files again, in case on a mounted filesystem.
/bin/rm -f /usr/spool/uucp/LCK* /usr/spool/[lh]pd/dpid /tmp/*

. /etc/drvld.multi
From: tbell@n8hsp.ncoast.org (Terry Bell N8HSP)
Reply-To: tbell@n8hsp.ncoast.org
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Creating 'unzip' help
Keywords: unzip,help
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:30:18 GMT
Organization: N8HSP Amateur Radio

Hi, I am having a terrible time attempting to creat 'unzip' for Coh 4.0.1

My ftp mail server sends the file 'unzip.tar.Za?' in two parts so first

I "cat unzipaa.1 unzipaa.2 > unzipaa.uue" then I uudecode the file which

results in "ftpmail.uu", I "mv ftpmail.uu unzip.tar.Zaa", I do this for

all three parts. ie: unzip.tar.Zaa unzip.tar.Zab unzip.tar.Zac. Now that

I have all three parts I then "cat unzip.tar.Zaa unzip.tar.Zab unzip.tar.Zac >

unzip.tar.Z". When I try to "uncompress unzip.tar.Z" I get a core dump and

come to a complete halt. I tried to change the "ram" "rram" as per the MWC

manual. Running the script from page 950 of the manual I "unable to create

/dev/rram1close", looking at the directory I see that "rram1close" is

crw-rw-rw-  1    sys    sys        8 128 Fri Oct 19   1990   /dev/rram1close

Any HELP would be appreciated.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu (Hari Seldon ... psychohistorian)
Subject: Re: Beta news system 
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:24:30 GMT

In <716310262snx@mallard.demon.co.uk> mike@mallard.demon.co.uk (Mike Zanker) writes:
>>
>>Posting the uuencoded archive to the list is fine with me. . . but I'm
>>one of the people that wants it. :-)

>Again, let me re-iterate that I have to pay for my newsfeed out
>of my own pocket, and I only have a 2400 connection. I have no
>use for this software (I use NNTP) so posting to this group would
>make me very unhappy. If people want this software badly enough
>then they'll be prepared to call mwcbbs or FTP it from some site.

ok mike i'm with ya here. it's ok. i know what you mean. everywhere i 
call is ld. luckily i've got my employers 9600 as loan (system support)
but we didn't forget ya. i'll be the first to flame who ever posts binaries
in a disscussion group, or vis-a-vers. calm down. now we won't force ya 
to pay 23L for something you don't want.

bill pociengel
ps now would we.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: grante@aquarius.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: SCCS
Reply-To: grante@aquarius.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards)
Organization: Rosemount, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:29:08 GMT

bakowskr@wm-mercer.ca (Ron Bakowski) writes:
: Pardon my *newness* to USENET and Coherent...
: 
: 	Does there exist the source to an SCCS or SCCS-like clone which
: 	I might run under Coherent 4.0?
: 

I ported RCS to 3.2 a while back, I haven't tried to re-compile under
4.0 yet.  RCS stands for Revision Control System -- it is used for the
control of source files the same way as SCCS is used.  RCS is newer
(and, IMHO better) than SCCS.  It's available from the MWC bbs, and on
the CohWare disks.  

It used to be available via anon ftp from umn-cs.umn.edu, but they
don't allow anon ftp anymore. :(

If you can't find a copy anywhere, let me know and I will mail a copy
to you.

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Rosemount Inc.                                |intercourse yet??  Is it,
                                              |huh, is it??
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From: umunk@naxos.sni.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: ckermit
Date: 10 Sep 92 08:30:35 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Info.Sys. AG, Paderborn, Germany

Bret.Johnson@p1.f1110.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bret Johnson) writes:

>I canonly run ckermit as root or su. err, I mean I have to su to root
>to be able to use my /dev/com4fr device?

>I just did the update and thats all. what should the /dev/com4* files
>permissions be???

666
But remember to disable the device before you run kermit on it.
The permission 666 must be set when the device is disabled!
When you enable the device permission changes back to 600 again,
because of the spawned getty and this is ok.
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From: kenji@TOM.ASTEM.OR.JP (Kenji Rikitake)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Coherent 4.0.1's smail
Date: 9 Sep 92 07:28:39 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

Coherent 4.0.1's smail/rmail ignores TZ and does not show timezone properly
on Date: and From_ fields. I hope MWC will fix this - or disclose the
source code for smail (smail 2.5 is a free software, right?) so that I can
fix it. :)

// Kenji Rikitake
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: tin/wnews
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:12:56 GMT
Organization: U. Munk's private BBS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

root@tbucks.com (Superuser) writes:
: When I posted my last msg about tin, rnews decided to break. My host sent
: me two packets, but these did not make it to /usr/spool/news/in.coming.
: When I checked /usr/lib/news/errlog I found "rnews:could not create
: /usr/spool/news/in.coming/92* for the packets. And they appear to be gone.
: 
: I further found the permissions for /usr/lib/news, which I carefully
: checked this morning, to be very different. What could have changed those
: permissions (I certainly didn't) and _what_ is going on here?
: 
: Anyone have any ideas what can be causing this bit decay?

I'm using wnews under 3.2, 4.0-beta and 4.0 now for more then a halfe
year. Something like this has never happens to me. But I guess you
are working as root user on your system (this articel is posted by root).
Are you sure you haven't done it by your selfe? You never should use
root to read/write news! Create an user account, and use this, so you
can't damage some of the system accidently.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: ben@bailey.UUCP (Ben Bailey)
Subject: DOS Tape backup via 'doscp'
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Date: 14 Sep 92 04:18:52 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ben Bailey's Home..Tampa Fl.

For those of you with tape systems that work with DOS, I was
successful in my backup of the Coherent 4.0 system using hte
new 'doscp' functions.

Here's the steps:
	1. Using cpio, created a single cpio file:
		ex:  find . -print | cpio -ocv >./back.cpio
	2. Compress it; it speeds up the transfer to DOS
		ex: compress -v back.cpio
		(This will create 'back.cpio.Z'
	3. Make a COHERENT directory under the DOS system
	   (assuming DOS drive D, 1st partition)
		ex: dosmkdir /dev/at1a:/COHERENT
	4. Copy it to DOS (assuming DOS drive D, 1st partition):
		ex: doscp  -bv  back.cpio.Z  /dev/at1a:/coherent/back_cpi.z
	5. Run your tape archive utility, and it's done!

Some hints on speeding it up:
	1. Make the output file from cpio go to a different hard disk
	   then the DOS COHERENT directory is located on.  This will be
	   significantly faster!
	2. Make sure the DOS COHERENT directory isn't under a disk
	   compression utility such as 'Stacker'.  Since you're bypassing
	   the 'stacker' compression device driver when using the Coh 4.0
	   dos commands, trying to read from a 'stacker' drive will give
	   you garbage.

Some operational hints.
	1. Use du to determine the required disk space required to make
	   a cpio copy.  It will be virtually the same size.
	2. Assume 55% compression for the final .Z file.  You'll therefore
	   need enough space for the cpio file and the .Z compressed file
	   to reside somewhere before you move it to dos.

As you can see, this can require a lot of disk space.  This can be
resolved by using smaller disk sections in the 'find . -print'  for
the cpio; you'll be trading off time for diskspace.

While it requires some work, and isn't as nice as a true tape running
under Coherent, it is MUCH faster than floppy disk backups!  You could
put it all into a script, up to the point where the actual tape archive
utility needs to be run.

Hope this helps some of you!  It's already saved me from a partial trash
of my root file system!

Ben
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From: ralf@ark.abg.sub.org (Ralf Stephan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: problems with db(4.0)
Date: 10 Sep 92 09:37
Organization: Magick Shoppe, Gurth City

JOHANIGG@dosuni1.bitnet (johannes niggemeyer) writes:
> hi coherent freaks,
> I've got the new coherent-version and within my configuration (386DX-
> noname) 'db'the debugger doesn't work correct.
> It isn't for example unpossible to set any breakpoints, or in other
> words breakpoints that are set, are not recognized when :e the execution
> is done.
> Has Anyone had similar problems or can help me otherwise?

I had this too and would also be very interested in a solution...

--ralf
From: tbuck@teal.csn.org (Timothy E. Buchanan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: wnews and nn problems
Date: 5 Sep 92 14:10:02 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

Is there something wrong w/ the nn.tar.za? files in raven? Iftp'd 
them, using binary transfer, and cat'd then attempted uncompress. 
It dumps core, creating a partial nn.tar. ustar on that will give a 
partial table of contents or start an extract, but only extract a 
few files then stop. Also, there are not as many files in nn on 
raven as on mwcbbs. Are some missing, perhaps? Could someone check, 
and if needed correct this?
 
I tried getting these from mwcbbs, but kept losing packets. sigh...
 
On another matter, I am still trying to make wnews work. I earlier 
posted my sys and active files. All owner, group, and permissions 
I've checked. Running pnews gives-
 
posting article....
could not execute /usr/lib/news/inews
article has been posted
 
except the article is not posted, either. Someone, pls help. If I 
can get wnews working then I can begin the struggle w/ a 
newsreader, if I can get a complete file. sigh....
 
Timothy.
From: Bret.Johnson@p1.f1110.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bret Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: columbus, oh?
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 13:13:37 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/1110.1 - Flying High!, Marietta OH

Jill A Raudabaugh of 1:226/20 wrote to All of 1:226/1110.1
on <Sep 08 at 20:33>

 JAR> From: jraudaba@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jill A Raudabaugh)
 JAR> Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent 
 JAR> Organization: The Ohio State University

 JAR> Greetings from Columbus, Ohio.  I am wondering if there are any Coherent 
 JAR> users who live in Columbus that might like to form a little mini-user 
 JAR> group of sorts. Nothing fancy... just exchange some e-mail addresses.  
 JAR> If you respond, let me know if I'm allowed to pass your name along to 
 JAR> fellow Buckeyes.

 JAR> Your neighbor,
 JAR> J. Haviland

  Hello Jill,
 
     I live in Newport Ohio about 15 min away form Marietta Ohio.
     I have used Coherent since the early versions.
     I do not have a net account <G> but, I am a Fidonet sysop and get
     send and receive mail and files from the Internet that way.

    If I can help in anyway please let me know.  I know your about 3 hours
    away but  I like road trips........


                       Bret Johnson

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From: vanhala@cc.helsinki.fi (Tomas Vanhala)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Does Coherent support the ISO Latin 1 character set?
Date: 10 Sep 92 12:37:00 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

Does Coherent 4.x support the ISO Latin/1 8-bit character set?
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: cnews utilities fixed and another problem found
From: cs.dal.ca!iisat!duncan!root  (David John Murdoch at duncan)
Organization: Duncan Computer Centre and Home Brewery
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:13:54 GMT
Reply-To: root@duncan.UUCP (David John Murdoch at duncan)

In article <@duncan> cs.dal.ca!duncan!root (David John Murdoch at duncan) writes:
>
>	I'm running the same cnews on 4.0 that I ran on 3.2.
>
>The fix:
>In my /usr/lib/newsbin/relay/mkpdir script I had to change the ; delimiters 
>to something different (I used !) in sed 's;/[^/]*$;;' i.e. to 
>sed 's!/[^/]*$!!' before it would work correctly for me. Then adddirs
>worked a treat building a new directory tree from my active file on my
>new hard drive :-)

But I have discovered that new directories are not created by cnews
when a new newsgroup is received and it is explicitly listed in sys i.e.
ME:news.future,news.sysadmin,...
How do I turn on creating new directories when a new expected newsgroup 
is received.

Thanks

David
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From: dema@astrax.north.de (Detlef Marxsen)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 08:04:11 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Coh 4.0.1 problems. Help?
Message-ID: <9209101004adema@astrax.north.de>
Organization: Organi...what?

Hello *,

Two days ago I got my Coherent 4.0.1 update
(directly shipped from MWC to Germany).

Unfortunately I ran into some problems:

The update proceeded flawlessly after I did the 'info' stuff as I read in
postings before. But I discovered the following strange things with
the now running 4.0.1 SW.

- If I use the new cron principle, the cron multiplies itself by eight
  each five minutes. This (of course) crashed my system after some time.
  I guess there is a problem between atrun and cron.
  Fumbling around I wasted about one day with permanent try+reboot+crash.
  Now I'm (angry & frustrated) back at the old cron
  principle (/usr/lib/crontab).

- Sometimes 'reboot' fails. Some characters in the second line of the
  screen change - then the system hangs.
  Then I have to do a cold start.

- I have four serial ports (8250A). Sometimes com2 doesn't get recognized
  at boot, resulting in an init complaint and a hanging system.

- I get the well known prepare_gift warning but the system boots.
  I also got the mysterious 'c' in the upper right corner.
  Is that OK, or is there a major problem lurking for me?

- I customized the /etc/rc and recognized that starting of background jobs
  fails, e.g:
    /usr/lcd/lcdinit&      fails, but
    /usr/lcd/lcdinit       runs fine.
  This is strange because
    /etc/update&
  of the original rc works fine.
  I inserted my additions before the last line of the original rc.

- The delete-key has no autorepeat.

My system: 486/33 with cache enabled, AMI-BIOS, C&T-chips,
80 MB IDE-drive, 4MB RAM, VGA.

Any hints are greatly appreciated !

	Detlef.
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Help: Track Flagged Bad errors
Date: 13 Sep 92 22:47:55 GMT
Organization: U. Munk's private BBS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

root@kwcom.in-berlin.de (Olaf Matthaei) writes:
: umunk@naxos.sni.de (Udo Munk) writes:
: > root@kwcom.in-berlin.de (Olaf Matthaei) writes:
: > 
: > >This track flagged bad was killed after shutdown AND reboot.
: > >My HD is a Kaloc 3100.
: > 
: > You have to use alternate disk polling, your HD controler isn't
: > compatible. Either install Coherent from scratch and answer
: > the question about alternate disk polling with yes, or ask
: > support@mwc.com for a patch to switch from normal to alternate
: > disk polling.
: 
: On COH 4.0.1 this ERROR was killed. It's a good   driver for 
: IDE disks.

This is not an ERROR, it's a problem with the IDE controller. There are
controllers available, which uses two different I/O addresses. I got
a hint from someone, the neccessary patch is descibed in the Coherent
manual on page 458. However, I've heared also from another one,
that 4.0.1 which works either with normal polling *and* alternate
polling on systems, where only alternate polling works with Coherent <4.0.1.
I guess MWC has changed the IDE driver so, that it automatically tries
alternate polling, if normal polling has problems. So if you are running
4.0.0 and have the `track flagged bad' problem, read page 458 of the
manual.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: pred@iitmax.iit.edu (Predrag S. Bundalo)
Subject: Re: Poor performance.
Keywords: Dhrystones, 486, 386.
Organization: IIT--Institute of Increasing Tuition.
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 01:52:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.071531.687@sdf.lonestar.org> bolan@sdf.lonestar.org (Bolan Meek) writes:
>
>What's the chance that what you compiled under DOS used the FPU resident in
>the '486, while Coherent's libraries do not?  I am betting that if you
>flagged the compiler to produce software emulation of the '87 only, you'd
>get just about the same Dhrystones on the '486 as on a fast '386- with the
>DOS compiler I mean.

It wouldn't make a difference.  Dhrystones measure integer operations, so
using an fpu (floating point unit/accelerator) wouldn't do me any good.

Anyway, I used the same DOS binary I had under the 386 with the 486; i.e. I
didn't recompile.

Respectfully,

Pred Bundalo
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: grimaldo@tokyo.seri.philips.nl (Emilio Grimaldo)
Subject: Re: SCCS
Organization: Philips Semiconductors, The Netherlands 
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 08:53:32 GMT

Hi, I am ALSO interested in sources of SCCS, if anyone has any info *please*
e-me at my email address shown below.
	   Thanks in advance
			 Emilio

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From: karl@dadoka.h.ni.schule.de (Karl Sarnow)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: beta for installable news ready
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 14:29:57 EDT
Organization: Karls Emergency Mailbox

bob@dalek.mwc.com (Bob Hemedinger) writes:

> Okay, the beta for an installable news package based on wnews, vn and
> tass is ready to go.
> 
> Question: How best to post? The compressed archive is 723343 bytes. I
> can uuencode and post to this group if no one objects. I can (and will)
> make it available on mwcbbs, but it will be a BIG download!
> 
> Any constructive feedback is welcome!

I do not have any objections against posting it here. This is the fastest way.
But if you are willing to distribute disks to those who giver their adresses,
this might save us a lot of download time (at your cost). I will send you
my private adress by mail :-).
Karl

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