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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:06:49 -0500 
From: Eli Brian Goldberg <eg1n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Words to "The Eagle Has Landed" by Fish?
	<1992Nov23.180813.7591@pbhya.PacBell.COM>

>>In article <1992Nov23.070912.15344@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>,
pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu 
(Paul Ciszek) writes:
>> Does anyone out there by any chance have the words to "The Eagle Has
>> Landed" by Leslie Fish already in ASCII form?  Someone is going to loan
>> me a tape, and I can try to transcribe the song, but if someone has
>> already done it I would appreciate the help.  Please respond in E-mail,
>> as I'm not subscribed to alt.music.filk or rec.arts.sf.fandom.
 
>Please note that he's asking to be sent a copy of a copyrighted work.
 
>	--Hal

Yes, that's a reasonable conclusion. ;-)

Leslie has given permission to post her lyrics and music wherever people 
bloody well feel like posting them. (Do you really expect an anarchist
to be prickly about Copyright laws? ;-)

Here they are...(with a CC to the USEnet bases for anyone else curious!)

______

Hope Eyrie

Words and music (C) Copyright by Leslie Fish

Worlds grow old and suns grow cold
And death we never can doubt.
TIme~s cold wind wailing down the past,
Reminds us that all flesh is grass
And history~s lamps blow out.
	But the Eagle has landed; tell your children when.
	Time won~t drive us down to dust again.

Cycles turn while the far stars burn,
And people and planets age.
Life~s crown passes to younger lands,
Time brushes dust of hope from his hands
And turns another page.
	But the Eagle has landed; tell your children when.
	Time won~t drive us down to dust again.

But we who feel the weight of the wheel
When winter falls over our world
Can hope for tomorrow and raise our eyes
To a silver moon in the opened skies
And a single flag unfurled.
	But the Eagle has landed; tell your children when.
	Time won~t drive us down to dust again.

We know well what Life can tell:
If you would not perish, then grow.
And today our fragile flesh and steel 
Have laid their hands on a vaster wheel
With all of the stars to know
	That the Eagle has landed; tell your children when.
	Time won~t drive us down to dust again.

From all who tried out of history~s tide,
Salute for the team that won.
And the old Earth smiles at her children~s reach,
The wave that carried us up the beach
To reach for the shining sun.
	For the Eagle has landed; tell your children when.
	Time won~t drive us down to dust again.


 
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From: lmann@jjmhome.UUCP (Laurie Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom,alt.fandom.cons
Subject: Boskone 30, Feb. 19-21 1993, Framingham, MA, Haldeman, Kidd, Meacham
Date: 17 Nov 92 02:39:42 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Place:  Sheraton Tara Hotel, Framingham, MA
Guests: Joe Haldeman, Tom Kidd, Beth Meacham

Regency Dance, a chocolate crawl, live entertainment and surprises!),
big huckster room, silent movie, cozy con suite, parties and kids'
activities.  Framingham is between Boston and Worcester and
is loaded with restaurants, entertainment and book stores.
 
Memberships:  $29 until January 17, higher at the door.
 
Write to:  Boskone XXX, Box 809, Framingham, MA  01701-0203.  Include the
number of memberships, and the name of each person you are buying a membership
for.  If paying by check, please make out your check to Boskone XXX.
 
You can charge your memberships to Mastercard or VISA---please
include your account number, the name on the card, and the
card's expiration date to charge memberships.
 
The hotel rates are $84 a night, single, $86 a night, all
others.  Parking is free.  The Sheraton Tara is at the
intersections of Route 9 and the Mass Pike---just off of
exit 12.  You can call the hotel at 508-879-7200 to make reservations.
 
Framingham is easily accessible by car, from either Logan or
Worcester Airports, from Amtrak and from several bus lines.

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From: erichill@microsoft.com (Eric Hill)
Subject: Re: "help with a costume"
Date: 20 Nov 92 03:43:26 GMT
Organization: MICROSOFT MFG, 

In article <1992Nov18.020852.1@max.u.washington.edu> zen@max.u.washington.edu writes:
>
>      I will be attending a con. in mid Jan. and need help with a 
>costume.  Just your basic wandering mercenery with leather armor,
>leggings, calf high boots, and a hooded cloak.  The problem is that
>I cannot find.
>      a: a catalog which sell the above merchandise.
>      b: a book that details how to make a costume like this.
>If anyone can point me in the right direction I would be greatly
>apprecitive.
>Zen
Try Tandy leather on hwy 99 by aurora village for the leather 
and the boot patterns.  Seattle costume and display by 
Northgate mall on roosevelt has cloaks and a lot of other 
great material.
Eric  Hill

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>| University of Washington     | what the hell went wrong.- Love Junk    | 
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From: chris@keris.demon.co.uk (Chris Croughton)
Subject: Re: INTERSECTION info please 
Distribution: world
Organization: Keristor Systems
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90c (ka9q DIS 1.18, CC 1.18c)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:31:16 +0000


In article <1992Nov18.210056.12591@quest.UUCP> curt@quest.UUCP writes:

>Can anyone supply the email address for the contact of INTERSECTION,
>53rd Worldcon 1995 in Glasgow, Scotland.

Email to timill@cix.compulink.co.uk, or tim@smof.demon.co.uk, will get
to Tim Illingworth.  Intersection will soon have its own machine, called
something like intersec.demon.co.uk, and this will be running a
mailserver, and forwarding mail to members of the committee.  I'll
contact Tim and find out how that's going (I'm going to have to write
some of the software first!) and post updates, but meanwhile sending
mail to Tim is the easiest.

The rates, valid until 31 December 1992, are as follows:

  Voted?  PreSupp?    Friend       to Support       to Attend
    N       N           N           L15 / $25       L40 / $65
    N       N           Y               *           L15 / $25
    N       Y           N           L10 / $17       L35 / $57
    N       Y           Y               *           L10 / $17
    Y       N           N            L0 / $0         L0 / $0
    Y       N           Y            L0 / $0        L20 / $32
    Y       Y           N            L0 / $0         L0 / $0
    Y       Y           Y            L0 / $0         L0 / $0

Memberships for children born after 24 August 1988 will be L5 or $10
Memberships for children born after 24 August 1980 will be L15 or $25

Cheques (and checks <g>) should be made payable to "Intersection".

Contact addresses:

UK: Bernie Evans, 121 Cape Hill, Smethwick, Warley, West Midlands B66 4SH
US: Theresa Renner, Box 15430, Washington DC 20002-0430

On 30 April 1993 presupporters become non-members, and Friends bocome
supporters, if they haven't converted.

[Information taken from Progress Report 0.1, published a few days ago]

Note 'L' in prices above means 'UK Pounds', $ is US dollars.  I think
that '*' means that they already have a supporting membership.

Chris
From: zen@max.u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject: "help with a costume"
Date: 18 Nov 92 10:08:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: max.1992Nov18.020852.1


      I will be attending a con. in mid Jan. and need help with a 
costume.  Just your basic wandering mercenery with leather armor,
leggings, calf high boots, and a hooded cloak.  The problem is that
I cannot find.
      a: a catalog which sell the above merchandise.
      b: a book that details how to make a costume like this.
If anyone can point me in the right direction I would be greatly
apprecitive.
Zen
                                                                           
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From: chris@keris.demon.co.uk (Chris Croughton)
Subject: Re: INTERSECTION info please 
Distribution: world
Organization: Keristor Systems
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90c (ka9q DIS 1.18, CC 1.18c)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 17:43:15 +0000


In article <722404887snz@smof.demon.co.uk> tim@smof.demon.co.uk writes:

>Chris, you clot, you've mistyped the second half of the table!

You are, of course, correct!  Mea culpa!  It comes from updating the
file, and forgetting to save it before using it (a common problem with
multi-tasking).

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From: neufeld@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Christopher Neufeld)
Subject: Re: Ecologies Wanted
Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 06:14:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.141235.15238@HAN.Paramax.COM> tom@HAN.Paramax.COM (Tom Jewell) writes:
>
>Can anyone recommend another source where a complete
>ecosystem is described?
>
   Practically anything by Alan Dean Foster counts. Try, for instance,
_Sentenced to Prism_ or _Midworld_.
   Other candidates are Robert L. Forward's _Dragon's Egg_ and sequel,
and Gregory Benford's _Heart of the Comet_.


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From: max@west.darkside.com (Erik Max Francis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Enyo?
Date: 21 Nov 92 04:48:53 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

I was playing a game of Spaceward Ho! on a Mac (though I don't normally 
use them, they have some good games), and beat the computer.  In that 
game, when you win, you get to name a world.

I thought of a good name for a world.  Suddenly, out of nowhere, the name 
_Enyo_ popped into my head.  I typed that in, and tada.

Shortly after, I thought to myself, What is Enyo?  I know I got it from 
somewhere; the only things I could think of were a computer game or 
science fiction.  I asked my brother, and he thought it sounded familiar 
as well, but couldn't pinpoint it anymore than I could.

So . . . does anyone here know where Enyo is from?  I believe it's a God, 
but the name was used somewhere specific.  I don't have access to any 
gaming newsgroups, so all I can follow up on is the science fiction end.

Replies appreciated in private mail.  Thanks.

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,alt.cyberpunk
From: otto@vaxb.acs.unt.edu (M. Otto, "Virtual Prisoner of the VAX")
Subject: Re: Diamond-hard SF
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:13:00 GMT

In article <BxxIFF.2E3@math.uwaterloo.ca>,
 gamiddle@math.uwaterloo.ca (Guy Middleton) writes:
> I must be missing something here.  Am I the only one who thought the original
> article was meant to be satirical?

Nope.  I wonder if Nick has a permanent dent in his cheek now...  ;)

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Subject: Re: image of the beast
From: S954818@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU (Mark Pedigo)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:06:53 GMT
Organization: UM ST. LOUIS

 
In article <1992Nov2.195717.15702@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>, iqv@vax5 writes:
>2)  How come no one discusses Ellison here?  Not that I want to start one, but
>he seems worthy of discussion.  Do other people like him, or not?
 
>>My impression is that he's pretty good, but likes to lean too much on the
>>"attitude" button (if you know what I mean).
 
I agree with the attitude analysis, but, as always, there is a flip side.
Reading authors such as Harlan often points out ways to NOT behave, think...
IMHO, there is as much value in disagreeing with a person as with agreeing--
the "Yes man" syndrome is, sadly, all too common...
 
(Not to be misunderstood -- this is not in any way, shape, or form intended to
be a flame).
 
-mp
 
 
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From: trebor@foretune.co.jp (Robert J Woodhead)
Subject: Re: One-time Gor fan bitches
Organization: Foretune Co., Ltd.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 09:50:38 GMT

mwp@iconix.oz.au (Michael Paddon) writes:

>As for the psychosexual content, Norman was clearly obsessive. By any
>sane yardstick, the philosophy he forwarded was repugnant and shallow.
>Enough said.

I have two friends (no, really...) who used to chip in 50/50 for the
Gor books.  One liked the action/adventure parts, and hated the sex;
the other the opposite.  They always wished the publisher would print
the books so that the two parts could be easily seperated... ;^)

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From: rhofmann@sneezy.helios.nd.edu (robert hofmann)
Subject: Tad Williams, "Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn 
Reply-To: rhofmann@sneezy.helios.nd.edu (robert hofmann)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:55:52 GMT


Anyone know when the last book (something about Green Angel Tower?) is supposed to come out ... I remember hearing a while ago that it was due for release in October, but I haven't seen it.  Can anyone possibly enlighten me?

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Subject: Re: Daniel K. Moran (was Re: Human Computers in SF--Help!)
From: David Silberstein <DASBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 23 Nov 1992 13:28:16 EST
 mINNgri@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU> <1992Nov23.030529.19323@kithrup.COM>
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

I'm glad DKM has a new book coming out.I wouldn't want him to become a
net.addict either; he writes too slowly as it is. As long as we're on the
subject, does anyone know the status of _The Ring_? I'm pretty sure it only
came out in hardback, but its been such a LONG time since I read it that I
don't remember the publisher. Also, what is the status of the movie whose
screenplay _The Ring_ is based on?

Thanx......
David
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From: cpf@alchemy.TN.Cornell.EDU (Courtenay Footman)
Subject: Re: The Wheel of Time Series (spoilers)
Keywords: Spoilers
Organization: /usr/local/lib/news/organization
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:20:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.225747.296@ms.uky.edu> miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant) writes:
>cpf@alchemy.TN.Cornell.EDU (Courtenay Footman) writes:
>
>>Spoilers!
>
>
>>In article <1992Nov11.210117.5326@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
>>>mlebrun@bss2.umd.edu (Mike Lebrun):
>>>>First, Rand and Galad are brothers.  All of the evidence is available, but 
>>>>scattered through the first four books.  
>>>
>>>No.  Rand is Elayne's and Gawyn's cousin on the mother's side:  Morgase
>>>was closest to the throne when Rand's mother disappeared without leaving
>>>a daughter.  Galad shares Elayne's and Gawyn's *father*, who is not
>>>presumed to be closely related to Tigraine.
>>First, a question:  where is the relation between Morgase and Tigraine
>>stated?  I have been trying to find this, and failing.
>
>>Second -- Galad's father, Taringil Damodred, was Tigraine's first
>>husband.  Thus Galad and Rand are half-brothers.
>
>Wrong. Rand's father was an Aiel. Where else would he get his Aiel appearance
>and be able to go through the Aiel history. It was stated that He Who Comes
>With The Dawn will be born of a Maiden of the Spear, born of the old blood
>and raised by the ancient blood, or something like that. 
>But it is clearly stated Rand's father is an Aiel.
Of course Rand's father was an Aiel.  His mother was Tigraine, former
Daughter Heir of Andor, whose first husband was Taringil Damodred, and
whose second husband was Rand's father.
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From: jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com
Subject: Re: release date for _Javan's_Year_
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 11:19:52 GMT

In article <168A5BE55.C511199@mizzou1.missouri.edu>, C511199@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Pat Flynn) writes:
> Does anyone know the release date for Katherine Kurtz's new book
> _Javan's_Year_ ?  I had heard that it was supposed to be out
> sometime in November, but the bookstores here have no clue?

It is out.  I have seen it at WindyCon at the beginning of the month, and since
then in a Walden Books and Blue Light Specials (they're owned by K-Mart y'know.
It's a corporate goal of K-Mart to have Walden's sales come 50% from 'non-book
merchandise'.  The other 50% appear to be from trilogies :)

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From: gmills@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (MILLS G - CHEMICAL ENG.)
Subject: Steven R. Boyet
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:46:47 GMT


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From: steevesm@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: Re: works of L. Ron Hubbard
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:08:50 GMT

In article <76275112092100424@FREDONIA>, BOOT1423@fredonia.BITNET ("Stephen M. Boothe") writes:
> Hello,
>        I would like to know what other sci-fi fans think of L. Ron Hubbard's
> works of science fiction.  I know that his founding of the Church of
> Scientology was controversial, but I am concerned with his merits as writer
> of science fiction.  Are his works worth reading?  Thanks.

Hmmm....  L. Ron....  It's been a while, but I have read a lot of his stuff.
His Battlefield: Earth book wasn't that bad....  Tres long, but a fairly 
entertaining read (IMHO).  On the other hand, I would highly recommend his
Mission Earth decology.  Extremely hysterical!!!!

-darkelf
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 Be resident in men like one another
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From: futtrup@daimi.aau.dk (Erik Futtrup S|rensen)
Subject: Tim Powers - and a couple of thought about _Last Call_
Keywords: Powers, Last Call, Crane
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 09:08:20 GMT

I'm glad that the discussion about Tim Powers and his books have come
forth again - he is truly great!
The only problem is getting his books.... I wrote him that (through his
publisher), and he wrote back and said that it worries him more that it 
does me... 

A couple of comments: 
---
A person on the net wrote recently that Powers is a very good at writing
a whole story in ONE book and I also wrote that to Powers. He answers:

>>I too get tired -- sometimes furious -- with books that turn out to
be only the first volume of some vast work of unknown length.
Sometimes I think that's just a result of laziness on the author's 
part -- "Oh, I don't have to explain all this stuff, this is only
volume one!'<<
---
Also, I think it is quite funny that Scott Cranes address in _Last Call_ 
(it is 106E 2ndSt. Santa Ana) is remarkable close to Powers address, 
so I was wondering if he perhaps identifies himself someway with Scott 
- Scott is born 2/28/43, do any of you know if it is close to Powers real 
birthday?

Just a couple of thoughts, I would like to share...

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From: corleyj@argon.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Jason D Corley )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: works of L. Ron Hubbard
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:22:26 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <1ej7h7INN5j0@transfer.stratus.com> jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com writes:
>In article <76275112092100424@FREDONIA> BOOT1423@fredonia.BITNET  
>("Stephen M. Boothe") writes:
>> Hello,
>>        I would like to know what other sci-fi fans think of L. Ron  
>Hubbard's
>> works of science fiction.  I know that his founding of the Church  
>of
>
>Most of Hubbard's later stuff is just plain bloated and bad.
>

Hear, hear.  The "Invasion of Earth" dekology?  Please!
My friend just informed me that his writing got a little
bit better after he died...
	Jason