HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tholen@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: Actual Dates of Episodes, internal calendrical info...
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:28:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr9.022828.3725
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii

alexander aranyosi writes:

> Ah, but there is a trivial little detail about leap years that most
> people tend to overlook, and that will come as a shock to all but
> the calendar-makers 8 years hence.  
> 
> The year 2000 is not a leap year.  Because of the way leap-years 
> work (adding extra days every four years to make up for the fact
> that the solar year is a little more than 365 days long), every
> 100 years we end up getting ahead of ourselves.  So years that end
> in 00, even though they are divisible by 4, don't have a February
> 29.  Therefore, TP must have taken place in '72.  I am sure the
> show was intended to be contemporary anyway, so this makes sense.

Sorry, but 2000 is indeed a leap year.  Your discussion is correct, up
to a point.  It turns out that by leaving out the leap day every 100
years, we get behind, so every 400 years, they put the leap day back in.
The centennial years that get the leap day are the ones divisible by
400, and because 2000 is divisible by 400, it will be a leap year.  This
calendar system is known as the Gregorian calendar (named after Pope
Gregory, who implemented it in 1582), and the average length of the
year in this calendar system is 365.2425 days, which still isn't quite
right, because the length of the tropical year is 365.2422 days.  It 
will take 3000 years, however, before the error accumulates to amount
to a whole day.  They didn't know that back in 1582, it seems, so the
system wasn't extended beyond the every-400-year rule, but it would
be easy to do so, when the time comes to "fix" the calendar again.
From: kwest@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Kenneth C West)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: Dean Motter's Prisoner
Date: 17 Apr 92 04:28:46 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

sherman@oak.math.ucla.edu (The Ahkond of Swat) writes:

>The characterization was shallow, the ending was silly, the American was
>thoroughly stereotyped (for starters).  The fistfight between 2 and 6
>was totally against the development of their relationship.  The author
>of "The Return of the King" did a better job there, keeping it 
>psychological.

	Why, thanks, Mr. Swat. I appreciate the praise. I did read
	Shattered Visage, as well. There was a certain excitement about
	being back in the Prisoner world which carried me through a
	first reading, butupon second and third scannings it lacked
	a certain amount of the atmosphere and character development.
	Basically, it comes off as a re-hash of the series without
	much new to bite into. Clever word play was a staple of
	ye olde scripts, but much of the comic was just empty, albeit
	clever, phrasings. I was, in a nutshell, disappointed. But
	I think it is a worthy addition, and had some very nice bits in
	it  -I really liked getting inside the British Intelligence that
	#6 once worked for. And the conspiracy between the three spies
	trying to break open The Village puzzle was nicely choreographed.
	In all, a disapointment, but a fun read.

	Wow. Get me started and I never stop for breath.

					-Jeff "Dutton" Somers
					Author, TROTK.
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
From: tthomas@isis.cs.du.edu (Kerr Avon)
Subject: Re: Prisoner Music
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 14:16:04 GMT

In article <00958E50.5879E880@vms.csd.mu.edu>
 9781bmu@vms.csd.mu.edu (Bill Saterlee) writes:
>
>All I want is just a little information. Thanks!

	You won't get it!

                              -be seeing you,
                                   AVON


--
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
From: holsteij@scott.skidmore.edu (JEREMY HOLSTEIN)
Subject: Re: Dean Motter's Prisoner
Organization: Department of Math and Computer Science, Skidmore
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:49:03 GMT

In article <holsteij.2@scott.skidmore.edu> holsteij@scott.skidmore.edu (JEREMY HOLSTEIN) writes:

>Howdy.  I've a question for other Prisoner fans out there.  How many of you 
>read the "Authorized Sequel" put out by DC Comics a few years ago?  And what 
>sort of reactions did you have to it?
>  I myself liked it very much, and found the tone to be faithful to the 
>original while pushing the story in new directions.  BUt I've also read 
>several negative reviews, foremost the one in the Comics Review last year 
>which blasted it for being confused.  I'm curious to get some other 
>reactions.  Does it deserve to stand in the Prisoner Cannon?

>  Also, wondering if anyone would be willing to send me a copy of "Return of 
>the King".  I read Chapter 15 the other day, and liked it very much....

>  Be Seeing You,
>  -Gendel

Also, just occured to me, that should be Jholstein, not Holsteij in my 
mailing address.  Please mail to:
  
  Jholstein@bart.skidmore.edu

Thanxs!
Be Seeing You-
 -Grendel

"I have the heart of a little boy...
 I keep it in a jar on my desk."
               -Robert Bloch
From: stevedal@tz.wimsey.bc.ca (Steve Dallas)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: PAL-NTSC
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 14:07:10 PDT
Organization: Somewhere in The Twilight Zone, Vancouver, B.C

 Some of you may recall me posting a message about video tape conversions to 
the NTSC format used in North America from the PAL system used in Europe and 
Asia. (Australia, too?)
 Anyway, I checked around and there really is no easy way out. You might be 
able to go down to the local chinatown in your city and find a video store 
owner that has a PAL machine for you to rent and copy it, but when he 
realizes he has the market cornered on this thing, and odds are the cunning 
proprietor will have found this out long before you arrived, he'll want to 
charge you an arm and a leg.
 Unfortunately, the only real way to do it is send it to the lab through 
your local photo-mart.
From: saseph@hal.unx.sas.com (Ed Hughes)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: Actual Dates of Episodes, internal calendrical info...
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:59:23 GMT
    <gdrY7W200WAwF4DW0A@andrew.cmu.edu> <83327@bu.edu>
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Originator: saseph@hal.unx.sas.com
X-Bytes: 1031

In article <83327@bu.edu>, lestat@buengf.bu.edu (alexander aranyosi) writes:
>
>The year 2000 is not a leap year.  Because of the way leap-years
>work (adding extra days every four years to make up for the fact
>that the solar year is a little more than 365 days long), every
>100 years we end up getting ahead of ourselves.  So years that end
>in 00, even though they are divisible by 4, don't have a February
>29.  Therefore, TP must have taken place in '72.  I am sure the
>show was intended to be contemporary anyway, so this makes sense.

Actually, the way I heard it, 2000 *is* a leap year, since every
fourth "00" year is a leap year.  The last "00" leap year was 1600.
I think this is a fairly recent calendar adjustment--seems like they're
always fine tuning these "leap" things they tack on.
-- 

Ed Hughes, SAS Institute  | "See no evil...well, maybe just a little...
Cary, NC                  |  yeah!"
                          | --Joel, "Women of the Prehistoric Planet,"
                          |          MST3000
From: dittman@skbat.dseg.ti.com (Eric Dittman)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: I bought the soundtrack CD's...
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:47:00 CDT
Organization: Texas Instruments Component Test Facility

I recently bought both volumes of "The Prisoner" soundtrack.
I recommend them both to all Prisoner fans.  If you buy only
one, get Volume One.  I bought Volume Two from Stargate, but
had to buy Volume One direct from the publisher since Stargate
had Volume One on backorder and they didn't know how long it
would be until the next shipment arrived.  The price direct
was more, but it did arrive in a week.  Since I'm sure I'll
get asked, here's the address and phone number:

   Silva Screen Records Ltd.
   Silva House
   261 Royal College Street
   London  NW1 9LU

   Telephone:  071 284 0525  (from the U.S., 011 44 71 284 0525)
   FAX:        071 482 2385  (from the U.S., 011 44 71 482 2385)

Volume One is FILMCD042
Volume Two is FILMCD084

I called and placed the order using MasterCard.  The price for
Volume One was about 17 pounds.  I'm not sure what the price
for Volume Two is direct.  If you're worried about the exchange
rate, call your bank.  The day I ordered the rate was $1.784 =
#1.000.

I have no connection to Silva Screen other than a very happy
and satisfied customer.
-- 
Eric Dittman                  Texas Instruments - Component Test Facility
dittman@skitzo.dseg.ti.com    (214) 578-3575
Disclaimer:  Not even my opinions.  I found them by the side of the road.
From: js06+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jason Lee Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Penny Farthing
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:48:35 GMT
Organization: Junior, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

You asked for it, you got it.
 
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From: ewm6965@zeus.tamu.edu (The Guardian)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: Actual Dates of Episodes, internal calendrical info...
Date: 16 Apr 92 09:17:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr9.022828.3725@news.Hawaii.Edu>, tholen@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen) writes...
>alexander aranyosi writes:
>right, because the length of the tropical year is 365.2422 days.  It 
>It will take 3000 years, however, before the error accumulates to amount
>to a whole day.  They didn't know that back in 1582, it seems, so the
>system wasn't extended beyond the every-400-year rule, but it would
>be easy to do so, when the time comes to "fix" the calendar again.
Actually, I believe that 4000 and 8000 have officially been declared non-leap 
years.  I guess 12000 will be taken care of when we get somewhat remotely close 
to it.
From: ranc@aar.alcatel-alsthom.fr (Daniel Ranc)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: missing chapter of "RETURN OF THE KING"
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:04:49 GMT
Reply-To: ranc@aar.alcatel-alsthom.fr ()
Organization: Alcatel Alsthom Recherche (Marcoussis)


It'a beautiful day!

But, still, I would like 1) to be a free man and 2) to
get a copy of CHAPTER NINE of the "RETURN OF THE KING",
which did not make it to my site.

Is there a SIXer so kind to send me a copy of it ?

Thank you a lot.

Be seeing you.

6
From: sl291006@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Phaedrus 'n Co.)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: Kar120c
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:01:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: bronze.1992Apr13.160114.7134
Organization: Indiana University


Better yet.. post it. I would like to know how to get the kit and how much it costs also.

Mike Kavka
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
From: ggg9y@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Garth G. Groff)
Subject: Re: The FULL TROTK (hope dutton doesn't mind)
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:43:18 GMT

RE:  RETURN OF THE KING

Many thanks for the "information".  I enjoyed the story very much.  Looking
forward to a sequel.  Be seeing you....

--Haridas
From: flarsen@garnet.berkeley.edu (Flemming Larsen)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: Kar120c
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:37:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.sd60gINN8hn
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

Caterham Cars
Seven House
Townend
Caterham Hill
Surrey CR3 5UG
England

Tel:  0883 346666/7
Fax:       349086
From: pastino@sjuphil.uucp (Sal Pastino)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: The Prisoner Movie?
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:16:40 GMT
Distribution: alt.tv.prisoner
Organization: Saint Joseph's University


Is all the information true about there really being a Prisoner movie?
I thought it was an April Fool's Day joke and may as a reult have flamed
a completely innocent messenger.

                                         Thanks, Sal Pastino
From: kemnitz@netcom.com (Greg Kemnitz)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: PAL-NTSC
Date: 17 Apr 92 04:52:29 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <N7iaJB1w164w@tz.wimsey.bc.ca> stevedal@tz.wimsey.bc.ca (Steve Dallas) writes:
> Some of you may recall me posting a message about video tape conversions to 
>the NTSC format used in North America from the PAL system used in Europe and 
>Asia. (Australia, too?)
> Anyway, I checked around and there really is no easy way out. You might be 
>able to go down to the local chinatown in your city and find a video store 
>owner that has a PAL machine for you to rent and copy it, but when he 
>realizes he has the market cornered on this thing, and odds are the cunning 
>proprietor will have found this out long before you arrived, he'll want to 
>charge you an arm and a leg.
> Unfortunately, the only real way to do it is send it to the lab through 
>your local photo-mart.



There is a pretty easy way out, although it requires an initial investment.
Panasonic has come out with a World Standards VCR that will convert/playback/
record in NTSC/PAL/SECAM.  Do not know the model number, but it *does*  
exist, and is under $1000.00.  



		Jon Rhein
		from a friend's account


P.S.  Ask over in rec.video.production for details--if you don't
get that group, let me know, and I'll do it for you.

jon@postgres.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
From: pdja@caen.engin.umich.edu (Pete D Jennings)
Subject: Re: Actual Dates of Episodes, internal calendrical info...
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 19:01:00 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <16APR199204141221@zeus.tamu.edu> ewm6965@zeus.tamu.edu (The Guardian) writes:
>In article <83327@bu.edu>, lestat@buengf.bu.edu (alexander aranyosi) writes...
>>The year 2000 is not a leap year.  Because of the way leap-years 
>Yes, it is.  Years divisible by 100 aren't leap years, *unless* they're 
>divisible by 400 as well.
>
>>29.  Therefore, TP must have taken place in '72.  I am sure the
>>show was intended to be contemporary anyway, so this makes sense.
>Well, yes.  Besides, if the Village existed in real life, it wouldn't be a huge 
>stretch of the imagination to believe that the same group running it might also 
>have bunches of technology that the public didn't know about.

What!?  You people think the village actually allowed the
prisoners to know what the correct date was?  Why, they might
infer the correct day of the week and somehow use knowledge
of the date against the warders.  Information is power, and the
Village is wise enough to keep a stranglehold on it.

--
|       pdja@engin.umich.edu         |        "War is peace."        |
|                                    |     "Freedom is slavery."     |
|         Pete D. Jennings           |    "Ignorance is strength."   |
From: ewm6965@venus.tamu.edu (The Guardian)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Lucky #7
Date: 15 Apr 92 08:33:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hmm.  I assume there was never a Number Seven, then?

Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
From: mfrazer@scott.skidmore.edu (matthew frazer)
Subject: Re: Actual Dates of Episodes, internal calendrical info...
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 03:51:08 GMT

I know the true dates, but you'll never know
					That would be telling
			(BTW Does it matter?)

--

"Like Alice I try to believe 3 impossible things before breakfast"
                                  -Peter Davison (Doctor Who)

Matthew Frazer          Matthew Frazer
5 Stevens Way           Box 276
Durham NH 03824         Skidmore College
                        Saratoga Springs NY 12866

INTERNET: mfrazer@scott.skidmore.edu


Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
From: chupack@caen.engin.umich.edu (Scott Chupack )
Subject: Is it true that the Dinosaurs are another Simpsons???
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 18:44:24 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

OK, here are the similarities I found.

Earl-Homer  (Dumbwitted Father)
Fran-Marge  (Perfect loving mother)
Robbie-Lisa (intellectual P.C.ers)
B.P.-Mr. Burns  (evil boss - though BP is only middle management)
"Pallie Boy-Barney   (Barney Rubble)

I see very little interchanging between Robbie and Bart as the Simpsons
  implied, and the Maggie-Baby link is pretty weak.

Also, Simpsons do not use satire as a storyline like Simpsons does.

Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
From: manuelp@bullet.ecf.toronto.edu (MANUELPILLAI Gerald N.)
Subject: Re: DOES size matter?
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 00:05:43 GMT

In article <12APR199214223349@rose.ucs.indiana.edu> jathomas@rose.ucs.indiana.edu (Eeyore) writes:
>
>Anyone got a good handle on the scale of size that the principle characters
>are? (english WAS my goodest subject)  In the early episodes the Dinos were
>only a LITTLE larger than the humans who lived nearby. (and seem, since, to be
>consipicuously absent) But, when Robbie asked why he had to kill a Mastodon to
>become a member of the YMCA (Young Male Carnivores Association) Earl's answer
>was "Because they're SMALLER than we are."   And Dave(?) the guy who met Fran
>in the supermarket and decided to kill Earl and take her was VERY much larger
>than any of the others.  So, they're little larger than humans, MUCH larger
>than Mastodons but musch smaller than other Dinos? 
>I'm not nitpicking and wouldn't care if they changed size every week, it
>wouldn't stop me from loving the show. I do think it intriguing though. Anyone
>else notice this (maybe) inconsistency?
I was wondering the same thing myself!!  Only consistent part is that
Earl's pal Roy who is a Tyrannosaurus and Earl (a Megalosaurus?) are 
about the same size, so that should give us some idea.  
Also in one of the earlier episodes Earl says something about being the
"mighty megalosaurus, king of the dinosaurs" or something to that effect
(I think it was in the 2nd episode (?) where Earl debates the wisdom of his
ancestors in settling down to civilized family life).  So Earl certainly
is supposed to be among the biggest of dinosaurs.

And hey!!  There's another episode to add to the list - 
"Earl debates the pros/cons of family life, and runs off into the forest"

Gerald M

Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
From: sjs@hood.hood.caltech.edu (Stephen Speicher)
Subject: Re: Episodes
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 23:03:12 GMT

carolyn@columbine.cs.colorado.edu (Carolyn Mich) writes:

>In article <1992Apr10.200413.25316@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> uwhitt@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Landon Whitt) writes:
>>
>>It would be nice to have a listing of all the episodes
>>that have aired so far. I am not sure of the actual names
>>but below is what I can come up with so far. 
>>
>>Robbie - a vegie?
>>Fran goes on tv
>>The WRONG baby?
>>Sparky - the pet caveman
>>What "Sexual" Harris meant
>>The paleontologist
>>The last 2 Grapdelites
>>Drugs (happy weed)
>>Ethyl "goes toward the light"
>>Nuts to war parts 1 and 2
>>Charlene's coat
>>Augh Augh I'm dying you idiot
>>Baby grows a horn
>>
>>who can help with additions and corrections?
>>Thanks guys -  Landon "Pug" Whitt    UNC-Chapel Hill

>Here's a few more. These may be overlapped with some of those already
>listed, don't remember if they were whole episodes or parts of others.

>Ethyl's Hurling Day
>Fran's suitor Gary
>Charlene grows a tail

Don't forget the very important holiday 'Refridgerator Day'.
Also that incredible episode where the food escapes from the fridge and
revolts.

Gotta love it!!
Stephen
sjs@hood.hood.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
From: iovine@columbine.cs.colorado.edu (Francesca Iovine)
Subject: Another great take-off name
Organization: Universtiy of Coloardo, Boulder
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:08:48 GMT


this is submitted from carolyn:

"In the category of best name/non-character, the award
goes to:  La Brea High School"
From: jclark@plains.NoDak.edu (Justin Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
Subject: Re: Listing of names
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:40:14 GMT
Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND

In article <1992Apr8.224805.1003@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White) writes:
>In a previous article, kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER) says:
>>Hey I think it'd be cool if we try to assemble a list of the names of characters
>I just thought of another one.
>Howard Handupme (anchorman for DNN)
>
I also have one:

  DNN commentator/New Chief Elder: Edward R. Hero

In addition to being an obvious play on Edward R. Murrow it's also a play on
Edward "Our Hero"

--------
Justin J. Clark (jclark@plains.nodak.edu)
Traveller through time and space, stranded in a world gone mad!
From: uwhitt@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Landon Whitt)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
Subject: Episodes
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:50:02 GMT
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service


Robbie - a vegie?
Fran goes on tv
The WRONG baby?
Sparky - the pet caveman
What "Sexual" Harris meant
The paleontologist
The last 2 Grapdelites
Drugs (happy weed)
Ethyl "goes toward the light"
Nuts to War  parts 1 & 2
Charlene's coat
Augh Augh I'm dying you idiot
Baby grows a horn
Robbie's howling day
family on game show
Earl takes to the woods
Ethyl's hurling day
Fran's suiter Gary
Charlene grows a tail
the mating dance
Refridgerator day
Revolting food
Robbie's power source
Earl & Fran get remarried

I had no idea there were SO MANY! keep those
additions and corrections coming folks!
Landon "Pug" Whitt    UNC-Chapel Hill
Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs