HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: deand@bmerh404.BNR.CA (Dean Dillabough)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: i is for iteration
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:26:57 GMT
Reply-To: deand@bmerh404.BNR.CA (Dean Dillabough)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <1993Jan20.011349.9121@ryn.mro4.dec.com>,
pjdm@chmeee.enet.dec.com (Peter Mayne) writes:
|>
|>In article <C13J9p.ABA@brunel.ac.uk>,
cs92njc@ccws-39.brunel.ac.uk.ac.uk (Nicholas J Clayton) writes:
|>
|>>Does anyone know the circumstances that surround "i" being adopted as
|>>the most common name for a variable in a loop, "for(i = 0; i < 10;
|>>i++)" and so on. Is it simply becuase it is the first letter of
|>>"iterate" or do the reasons run deeper than that?
|>
|>Guess number 1:
|>
|>FORTRAN used the letters I to N to mean "any variable starting with one of
|>these letters is type integer". Hence, variable names like KOUNT,
NPOPULATION,
|>and I, presumably being the first of the shortest integer variable names.
|>

 The use of i, j, k, ... as integers probably comes from matrix algebra as in

   A   =  sum  [B   * C  ]    
    ij           ik    kj

 Where i, j, k were integer matrix indices. 'n' was used to specify an integer
 number of items when doing proofs. Similarly, when working with
equations, a, b,
 c, ... were used to denote real (as opposed to integer) constants, and
x, y, z,
 were used to denote variables as in the equation of a line on a 2 dimensional
 graph is a*x + b*y + c = 0. FORTRAN, implemented to help out in mathematical
 areas (hence its name - FORmula TRANslation) just borrowed existing
terminology
 standards. KOUNT and its ilk were the result of programmer lazyness -
not wanting
 to punch up another card to declare COUNT as an integer. The rest is
just following
 de-facto standards.

 Using i, j as iteration indices just continued the trend of
  1) indices were a single character in my math courses, and
  2) I'm not a typist, this keypunch keyboard is a clunker anyways
     so I'll type as little as I can, which means short variable
     names.


 There you have it, 30+ years of variable naming in 16 lines.



                                  Dean (no shoes, no shirt, no sig)
From: sixx@endeavor.ksu.ksu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: What one-liner, joke, saying would you like to see on a T-shirt
Date: 21 Jan 1993 22:49:22 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: endeavor.ksu.ksu.edu


Surgeon General's warning...
 It is 5 times deadlier to get a smoker angry than it is to breathe second
  hand smoke.

I recall someone telling me about seeing that on a t-shirt, (friend of a friend
sorta thing), but can't remember if that's quite right or not.


sixx@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
From: wbdst+@pitt.edu (William B Dwinnell)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Pentia
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:19:58 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


Christoph F. Strnadl: Sorry, you assumed incorrectly: I didn't mean to
put them in any order, just to match the appropriate prefix with
the corresponding number.  "Hept-", is 7, not 6- that was all I
was saying.
From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Vestiges of FORTRAN, Memes and Syntax (Was: Re: i is for iteration)
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:10:53 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

Alec Muffett - Sun IS -  System Administrator (alecm@coyote.uk.sun.com) wrote:
> on in the ecology of computing today as a kind of vermiform "appendix"?

Obscure reference to Philip Jose Farmer's ``The Voice Of The Sonar In My 
Vermiform Appendix'' here? Is it all a polytropical paramyth? have I been in
the office too long today...?

pete
--
*Peter Fenelon -- Research Associate -- Software Safety Assessment Procedures*
Dept. of Computer Science, University of York, York, Y01 5DD (+44/0)904 433388
EMAIL: pete@minster.york.ac.uk `There's no room for enigmas in built-up areas'
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
Subject: "Emoticon" and Webster's
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:24:10 GMT

On Sunday, I heard an interview with the editor of the Random House
dictionary (is that now New Webster's?).  When asked for an example of a
word that is in the process of moving from jargon to general use, he
chose "emoticon", citing recent NYT and WSJ articles.  Expect to see it
in the next edition.
-- 
David Brooks					dbrooks@osf.org
Open Software Foundation			uunet!osf.org!dbrooks
Shine out, fair sun, with all your heat!  Black winter freezes to his seat...
The boneless fish close quaking lies...the stars in icicles arise!
From: azog@spatula.rent.com (Billy D'Augustine)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: What one-liner, joke, saying would you like to see on a T-shirt
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:24:44 GMT
Organization: A kitchen utensil somewhere in central New Jersey

In article <ig25.728075861@fg70> ig25@fg70.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Thomas Koenig) writes:
>God save the Queen,8,1

On that same line:

Front:
LOAD "A HEART OF GOLD"

Back:
SEARCHING FOR A HEART OF GOLD

-- 
Billy D'Augustine 	azog@spatula.rent.com

'Armies of the Gods of Hell ride across the astral plane, bearing curses
of destruction, sworn beyond the grave'
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.religion.kibology
From: jkiley@andy.bgsu.edu (James H. Kiley)
Subject: Re: What one-liner, joke, saying would you like to see on a T-shirt
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:14:03 GMT

mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Matt McIrvin) writes:

>kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry) writes:

>>"international"?  I've never left the USA, because I'd feel lost without
>>a combination deep-fried-hamburger-and-aerosol-deodorant stand on every
>>corner.
>>							-- K.

>Nonsense.  Sufficiently big net celebrities obviously exist in a
>delocalized manner, smeared all over the globe with particularly
>strong concentrations in the US, UK, Australia, NZ, Norway and Finland.
>If you choose to imagine that you're really in Boston, well, that's
>your business.

	Well, on the other hand, delimiting delta X sub kibo to an 
area the size of Boston allows us to put surprising limits on delta V sub kibo,
using the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.  

	#35.  Calculate the uncertainty in Kibo's velocity.  Show all work.


Jim 'not Jibo this week, that's next week' Kiley
From: neilg@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil MG Gall)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: You know you've been playing games too long when...
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:46:42 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing and Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Edinburgh

In article <1993Jan25.103136.186@actew.oz.au>, ina_craig@actew.oz.au (Craig Alexander) writes:
** In article <_dm3jvq@rpi.edu>, jonesr2@aix02.ecs.rpi.edu (Kazrak) writes:
** > Today, I determined that I've been playing Lemmings too long.  How?  Well,
** > when my fiancee and I were approaching the door to her building and I was
** > trying to figure out how one of us could unlock the door without the other
** > bouncing off and heading in the other direction, I figured I was a goner.
** 
** I have heard stories of the game Tetris affecting people like this but much
** more severely. Some people have said that they have gotten to the stage
** where they can play tetris in their heads without needing a computer. 
** 
** Craig

I can do that.  I used to play tetris every day without fail for about
two hours or more.  I would go to bed at night, playing tetris in my head.
I also found that it increased my alertness for a few minutes after
playing.  If you play tetris for an hour or more, then puck up something
to read, you can read _really_ fast !  Works for me at least.

I had an interesting "I'm a goner" experience last week whilst I was driving
south from Aberdeen to Edinburgh.  About half way between Aberdeen and
Dundee there's a nice piece of scenery to the west.  You look across the
road to about a mile of flat land, with farmhouses, trees and things here
and there, and about a mile or two away the Grampian mountains start,
the first ones quite low, with higher ones behind.  I looked across this
view and thought: "WOW! Infinite parallax !!"

+-----------------------------------------------+------------------------+
|  Blessed are they who Go Around in Circles,   |     Neil M.G. Gall     |
|      for they shall be known as Wheels.       |   neilg@uk.ac.hw.cee   |
+-----------------------------------------------+------------------------+
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: baylor@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: all folklore
Reply-To: baylor@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 23:34:23 GMT

In article <XcoXXB6w165w@mertwig.uucp>, daniel@mertwig.uucp (Daniel Drucker) writes:
>
>I'm writing an essay on 'computer folklore', and I know that I'm
>really not qualified to do that, but hey, its for honors credit. I'm
>in search of ANY kind of things having to do with such; like songs,
							      ^^^^^
Songs, you say? Try alt.music.filk. I think there is an associated
ftp site also, wherein you should be able to find at *least* dozens
of songs to suit your needs.

>sayings, everything. Things like blinkenlights.
>(Yes, I know about the Jargon file!)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: fstuart@eng.auburn.edu (Frank Stuart)
Subject: Re: What one-liner, joke, saying would you like to see on a T-shirt
Organization: Feast of the Maximum Occupency
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:14:20 GMT

This T-shirt cost the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars.
Are you sure you want to buy it?


Frank Stuart           |   grep: dead.trees: Permission denied
fstuart@eng.auburn.edu |   MMMMmmmmm, Soylent Green
From: martin.baines@uk.sun.com (Martin Baines - Sun UK - SE Manager Cambridge)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: BCPL
Date: 21 Jan 1993 15:20:31 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Ltd
Distribution: world
Reply-To: martin.baines@uk.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: bottomdog.uk.sun.com

In article P9aqXB1w165w@mantis.co.uk, Tony Lezard <tony@mantis.co.uk> () writes:
>weisberg@ee.rochester.edu (Jeff Weisberg) writes:
>
>> I recently came across a book on BCPL (the language).  It is  in-
>> teresting  to see where features of C evolved from.  I thought it
>> would be interesting to give it a try, and was wondering if  any-
>> one  has,  or  knows  about an implementation I could get up on a
>> sun3, to try out the language, before I try  to  throw  something
>> together myself.
>
>Ah yes, an excellent language which I trust all Compsci graduates
>from Cambridge University (over a certain age) will remember fondly.
>
>I was always struck by the purity of the idea of a language with just
>one data type, the (32 bit where I was) word.
>
>The similarity with C (which could be considered as BCPL's grandson)
>is obvious although some symbols changed, such as ~ (in BCPL) became
>! (in C), * became \, ! became * etc.
>
>It had some nice syntactic elements as well. I can't think of any
>languages where you can make tests of the form
>
>    IF 4 <= x <= 8  $( ... $)
>
>(with the test succeeding if x is between 4 and 8 inclusive.)

But remember the fun if it was:

IF 4 <= function() <= 8

depending on your compiler might call the function once or twice!

Other interesting things about BCPL: in most cases the ";"
at the end of statements was optional - certainly at most line
ends.

It inherited CPL's solution for one verses two tailed if statments,
viz: one tailed if was:

IF x < y THEN statement()

two tailed:

TEST x < y THEN statement1()
ELSE statement2()

I.e. IF ... THEN ... ELSE was illegal

When B then C then C++ descended from BCPL, I feel in each
evolution something was lost as well gained. In particular
the syntax of C/C++ is UGLY compared to BCPL.

Maybe an exercise for an undergratuate dissertation could be
to develop "BCPL +:= 2", the byte addressed, object oriented
successor to BCPL with a decent syntax?

Martin (Cambridge CST Graduate of 1980)

---
"You might say that, but I couldn't possibly comment"

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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: pt@geovision.gvc.com (Paul Tomblin)
Subject: Re: i is for iteration
Reply-To: pt@geovision.gvc.com
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:58:47 GMT

cs92njc@ccws-39.brunel.ac.uk.ac.uk (Nicholas J Clayton) writes:

>Does anyone know the circumstances that surround "i" being adopted as the most common name for a variable in a loop, "for(i = 0; i < 10; i++)" and so on. Is it simply becuase it is the first letter of "iterate" or do the reasons run deeper than that?

I assumed it was from FORTRAN, where any variable starting with I,J,K,M
(and possibly N, but I never nested my loops that deep, and I was so
excessively non-FORTRANISH that I used to declare EVERYTHING except loop
counters) was an INTEGER.  Thus, the first short (in name) integer was
I, so that's what you would use for your outer loops.

(BTW - could you try using a 80 character lines instead of ~250 character
lines?  It's hard to read as is.)
-- 
Paul Tomblin, pt@compass.gvc.com
(This is not an official opinion of GeoVision Systems Inc.)
"A witty .signature proves nothing" - Voltaire (sort of)
From: williamc@aifh.ed.ac.uk (William Chesters)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: BCPL
Date: 23 Jan 93 19:48:17 GMT
Organization: Dept AI, Edinburgh University, Scotland

Interesting (Malcolm Shute) that BCPL has transputer connections. 
Should we see it as part of the British Minimalist (or do I mean
Oxbridge :)) school of language design, along with Occam?

Incidentally the strangest program I have ever seen was written in BCPL.
It was supposed to drive an automatic fork-lift truck; and it had a
variable called ``brake_not_actually_on''.  (Yes, a Cambridge graduate :)).

--
signature
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Arlie Davis)
Subject: Re: You know you've been playing games too long when...
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 18:10:17 GMT
Reply-To: Arlie Davis <aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu>
Organization: University of Louisville
Keywords: lemmings games

In <_dm3jvq@rpi.edu> jonesr2@aix02.ecs.rpi.edu (Kazrak) writes:

> Today, I determined that I've been playing Lemmings too long.  How?  Well,
> when my fiancee and I were approaching the door to her building and I was
> trying to figure out how one of us could unlock the door without the other
> bouncing off and heading in the other direction, I figured I was a goner.

You just be relieved; at least one of you didn't have to block the other, and
thus be blown up later.

-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: bcc@lanai.Eyring.COM (Brian Cooper)
Subject: Re: VIC-20 returns!
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 05:23:07 GMT

In article <C1E5It.10A@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason 'KodaK' Balicki) writes:
>In article <C1D5EH.4zM@newcastle.ac.uk> S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk writes:
>[]
>>duck before a dart gun fired one of those rubber air-propelled
>>darts at about throat level.
>[]
>
>Where does one get large amounts of rubber air?
>
>>Scott
>>EMAIL: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk   OR   scott@shrug.dur.ac.uk (NeXTmail)
>
>Jason Balicki | kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu

Several responses suggest themselves.  First, cut him some slack -- by 
hyphenating "air-propelled" he avoided the ambiguity you are exploiting.
Another response is that he went to a rubber welder and bought the
rubber air with a rubber check.  A third possibility is that he brought
up the air through a rubber neck.

-- 
Brian Cooper	bcc@Eyring.COM
Eyring Corp.	+1 801-375-2434 or 1 800 YES PDOS
Xref: sparky alt.folklore.computers:19276 comp.std.misc:181
From: rlwinter@guacamole.engr.ucdavis.edu (Richard Lee Winterstein)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.std.misc
Subject: Looking for Fraktur
Date: 26 Jan 93 09:21:39 GMT
Followup-To: alt.folklore.computers
Organization: College of Engineering - University of California - Davis


  I am looking for a "Fraktur" font for the Macintosh, TT or Type 1.  There is
one in the archives bundled with two other fonts under the name "dtfvolumetwo"
but it appears to be lacking the long-s and esset (other than that, it's a
nice font...).

Thank you,
Rick
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: joshg@athena.mit.edu (Josh Gagliardi)
Subject: Atari 1450 XLD
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 20:39:53 GMT


Many years ago, my father used to get a catalog of gifts he could order from
his company in return for having sold equipment.  We looked through the
catalog one year, and here was this neat computer, the Atari 1450XLD.  It
had a built in floppy drive, a little space above it for diskettes, and 
a modem, I think.  We ordered it, and after almost a year of little 
"Manufacturer's delay" postcards finally got an 800XL with a disk drive in 
the mail.  what happened?  Was the machine ever built?

--Josh Gagliardi
joshg@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re: Smart Disk Drives (C64)
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:30:31 GMT

In article <ENTROPY.93Jan18055502@kropotkin.gnu.ai.mit.edu> entropy@gnu.ai.mit.edu (maximum entropy) writes:
>My Atari 800 (normal keyboard) used to fall off its little cart (about
>3 feet) and smash to the ground (concrete with a thin carpet) about
>once a week, because people were always tripping over the cord (yes, I
>did eventually get a desk for it, thank you very much).  Still works
>like new to this day.  Too bad modern Atari's aren't made like that.
>
>Cheers, entropy

    Yes, the Atari ST was not built that strongly.. I was at a sci-fi con
several years ago. Two guys in the dealers' room were making photo badges
for the attendees. Things like 'Chief Engineer Star Ship Enterprise' etc.
They had the top open when I walked by. They told me the chip sockets
didn't have springs in them, and so they had to reseat the chips once per
hour or the thing would crash due to thermal expansion ! DJ.
{ They told me the official Atari help line method of curing a machine still
  under warranty of this problem, was to drop the computer onto a sturdy
  table. }

-- 
         Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science USM 
             jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.
                      Video. Peter Gabriel: Steam 
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: N.W. Choe <nwc1@midway.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Re: You know you've been playing games too long when...
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A78C959475027492@sl-mac-18.rh.uchicago.edu>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 27 Jan 93 01:40:04 GMT
Organization: Beaver Consulting Co.
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:46:57 GMT

Re: You know you've been playing games too long when...

well, my friend Dave played LodeRunner on my mac one day for SIXTEEN
hours straight. Well, we'd take turns after ordering a pizza to be
delivered somewhere in there.

After that, and on other days, he said that he'd see a little Lode
Runner
man running over the words on a page while he was reading. First he'd
dig x number of holes, drop down, dig (x-1) holes, etc...

Another friend of mine started playing a Mac version of Solitaire at
around 10:30pm in my room. sometime later I went to sleep- when I
woke
up at 8:30 am, she was still playing...
N.W. Choe    Beaver Consulting Co.- Chicago
5454 S. Shore Dr. #318
Chicago, IL 60615     312.702.4605
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micros,alt.folklore.computers
From: frank@rover.uchicago.edu (Frank - Hardware Hacker - Borger)
Subject: Re: Pro 350
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Reply-To: frank@rover.uchicago.edu
Organization: Joint Center for Radiation Therapy
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:19:00 GMT

In article <9995020@zl2tnm.gen.nz>, don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes) writes...
>AAAAAARRRRGHH!!!!!!
> 
>I've had a DEC Pro/Rainbow/DECmateII stand for a year or so (NZ$50 from
>a govt. department that was chucking out loads of DEC gear).  It has both
>male and female power sockets and a kick switch.  I always assumed it was
>to turn the monitor on or off or something (the stand is designed for a
>VR241).  I always considered this a daft idea, and never used it.
> 
>I just read your message, thought "Hmmmm?", plugged the thing in, and
>kicked the switch.  It *is* a motorised stand!  Gee.  Learn something
>new every day....
> 
>Still, I'll probably disconnect it -- I'll just fiddle with it now.... 8-)

	Evidently DEC gear is tougher than PC's. When the finally retired
	one of our DECmates, I grabbed the stand for a conventional PC.
	Found out the hard way that if you run the motor while you have the
	PC cranking, you can trash files on the PC.

	I too leave it disconnected.

   Frank R. Borger - Physicist    __       George Halas had two heirs; one
Michael Reese - Univ. of Chicago |___      carried his seed and one carried his
  Center for Radiation Therapy   | |_) _   soul. ... One can imagine the wisper
    "Birthplace of Softball"       | \|_)  of George Halas, rooting for his
Internet:  Frank@rover.uchicago.edu   |_)  soul. - Jeannie Morris
Phone : 312-791-8075 fax : 567-7455        
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.sys.unisys
From: wex@cs.ulowell.edu (Paul M. Wexelblat)
Subject: Re: HISTORY OF WORD PROCESSING
Originator: wex@bigmax.ulowell.edu
Reply-To: wex@cs.ulowell.edu
Organization: Univ. of Lowell CS Dept.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:54:57 GMT


Can anybody date WordStar (no jokes please) I know the original
was done by J. R. Barnaby on an Imsai (I think) but don't
remember when; surely the first PC Word Processing Program.
-- 

	...Wex
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: dnichols@d-and-d.com (DoN. Nichols)
Subject: Re: Computer Writes Book?
Organization: D and D Data, Vienna VA
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 04:14:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.002538.9970@seas.smu.edu> pedersen@seas.smu.edu (Ted Pedersen) writes:
>
>I saw the following in the Books column (by Olin Chism) of the Dallas
>Morning News Sunday January 24, 1993. Copied without permission. It
>concerns a computer program that allegedly wrote a book in the style
>of Jacqueline Susann. 
>
>I think this is a stunt. I don't really believe a computer program
>wrote this book. However, if anyone has any information about this

	[ ... ]

>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     "Birch Lane Press of New York says that Scott French, a
>free-lance writer and computer consultant from California, invested
>eight years and $50,000 to develop a computer program that writes like
>Jaqueline Susann. Mr. French's electronic novelist has output Just
>This Once, a 256 page sizzler that Birch Lane will publish next
>summer."
>
>      "The first thought of any good skeptic is that Birch Lane is
>pulling a fast one. Remember "Naked Came the Stranger", the potboiler

	Also, doesn't the number of pages look suspicious?  Even if the
computer program tended to numbers with binary significance, the typesetting
would be hard to predict, unless the same program was typesetting it as it
wrote it, and was padding or triming sections to make the page count just
overflow eight bits.  (It reminds me of a tape of humorous computer songs,
which had "Side 0" and "Side 1" :-)
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