HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: brians@atlastele.com (Brian Sheets)
Subject: Sendmail address resolution, HAALLLPP!!
Organization: Atlas Telecom Inc.
Disclaimer: Views expressed do not necessarily represent those of my employer.
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1993 11:09:29 GMT


I have both a uucp link and internet and I am trying to figure out how
to have unresolved or addressess unknown by a nameserver forwarded to a smart
host.  I am not really good with sendmail, so could someone help me get 
this figured out??



thanks



-- 
Brian Sheets		    _   /|  	"TRUCK?! What truck?"
Support Engineer  	    \`o_O'    	 
Atlas Telecom Inc. 	      ( ) 	   -Raiders of the Lost Ark
brians@atlastele.com           U
From: elsn4000@bronto.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Frank Elsner)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: dbm from IDA Enhencement bombs, HELP !
Date: 27 Jan 1993 14:33:50 GMT
Organization: TUBerlin/ZRZ
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: bronto.zrz.tu-berlin.de

I've compiled  dbm  from the IDA Kit succesfully but when I try to generate
a database ... see what happens ...

bronto- /home/elsn4000/tmp<1> strace -t dbm load gen gen
15:26:38 open("/usr/lib/ld.so", RDONLY, 61020) = 3
15:26:38 read(3, "\81\3\1\b\0\0\80\0\0\0 \0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0 \0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 32) = 32
15:26:39 smmap(0, 40960, READ|EXEC, PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xf77e0000
15:26:39 smmap(0xf77e8000, 8192, READ|WRITE|EXEC, PRIVATE|FIXED, 3, 0x8000) = 0xf77e8000
15:26:39 open("/dev/zero", RDONLY, 7) = 4
15:26:39 getrlimit(STACK, {cur: 8388608, max: 402653184}) = 0
15:26:39 smmap(0xf7800000, 8192, READ|WRITE, PRIVATE|FIXED, 4, 0) = 0xf7800000
15:26:39 close(3) = 0
15:26:39 getuid() = 181 ([euid 181])
15:26:39 getgid() = 181 ([egid 181])
15:26:39 open("/etc/ld.so.cache", RDONLY, 0) = 3
15:26:39 fstat(3, [REG ino 4852 nlnks 1 ...]) = 0
15:26:39 smmap(0, 4096, READ, SHARED, 3, 0) = 0xf77c0000
15:26:39 close(3) = 0
15:26:39 open("/usr/lib/X11", RDONLY, 1010525) = 3
15:26:39 fstat(3, [DIR ino 61711 nlnks 12 ...]) = 0
15:26:39 smmap(0xf7802000, 8192, READ|WRITE, PRIVATE|FIXED, 4, 0) = 0xf7802000
15:26:40 getdents(3, {Total: 42 dents}, 8192) = 976
15:26:40 getdents(3, {Total: 0 dents}, 8192) = 0
15:26:40 close(3) = 0
15:26:40 open("/usr/lib/libc.so.1.7.2", RDONLY, 50550) = 3
15:26:40 read(3, "\81\3\1\b\0\7\0\0\0\0@\0\0\0\n\d0\0\0u\84\0\0\0 \0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 32) = 32
15:26:40 smmap(0, 477904, READ|EXEC, PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xf7730000
15:26:40 smmap(0xf77a0000, 16384, READ|WRITE|EXEC, PRIVATE|FIXED, 3, 0x70000) = 0xf77a0000
15:26:40 smmap(0xf77a4000, 2768, READ|WRITE|EXEC, PRIVATE|FIXED, 4, 0) = 0xf77a4000
15:26:40 close(3) = 0
15:26:40 open("/usr/lib/libdl.so.1.0", RDONLY, 50570) = 3
15:26:40 read(3, "\81\3\1\b\0\0 \0\0\0 \0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\84\0\0\0 \0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 32) = 32
15:26:40 smmap(0, 16396, READ|EXEC, PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xf7710000
15:26:40 smmap(0xf7712000, 8192, READ|WRITE|EXEC, PRIVATE|FIXED, 3, 0x2000) = 0xf7712000
15:26:40 close(3) = 0
15:26:40 mprotect(0x2000, 16384, READ|WRITE|EXEC) = 0
15:26:40 mprotect(0x2000, 16384, READ|EXEC) = 0
15:26:40 close(4) = 0
15:26:40 getpagesize() = 0x1000
15:26:41 brk(0x63d0) = 0
15:26:41 brk(0x6ff8) = 0
15:26:41 brk(0x8ff8) = 0
15:26:41 open("gen.pag", RDWR|CREAT|TRUNC, 644) = 3
15:26:41 open("gen.dir", RDWR|CREAT|TRUNC, 644) = 4
15:26:41 fstat(4, [REG ino 99506 nlnks 1 ...]) = 0
15:26:41 flock(4, LOCK_EX) = 0
15:26:41 open("gen", RDONLY, 666) = 5
15:26:41 ioctl(5, TCGETA, 0xf7fff4b4) = -1 (Inappropriate ioctl for device)
15:26:41 fstat(5, [REG ino 99489 nlnks 1 ...]) = 0
15:26:41 brk(0xbff8) = 0
15:26:41 read(5, "abel@zrz.TU-Berlin.DE\ta2034000@f".., 8192) = 8192
 - [SIGSEGV]
 + [SIGSEGV]

The program was linked using -Bstatic.

Any help welcome,
Frank Elsner (TUBerlin Postmaster)
Xref: sparky comp.mail.sendmail:3279 comp.unix.aix:13748
From: walkera@cco.caltech.edu (Walker Aumann)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: I want to be able to use MX records on IBM AIX
Date: 27 Jan 1993 02:54:35 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

herrera@athena.mit.edu (Ramon F Herrera) writes:

>I have an IBM RS/6000 with AIX 3.2 and I am
>running the mailer daemon that comes in the
>distribution tape.  However, this 'sendmail' is
>unable to deal with MX records.  How can I set
>it up in order to be able to use such records??

Include the line:
OK MX

On our version, this was documented in the sendmail.cf file that came with the
machine.
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: andyw@aspen32.cray.com (Andy Warner)
Subject: Time dependant delivery question.
Originator: andyw@aspen32
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 22 Jan 93 11:08:57 CST


I'm running a recent version of IDA sendmail on a Sun 3/50.
For reasons I won't bore you with, I'd like to control the actions
of sendmail according to the time-of-day. What I need to do is
not initiate certain outgoing SMTP requests (even retries) for
specific times. The criteria could be priority, or maybe the
destination address (either host or user@host).

I was thinking of using a DBM file to map (say) "user@host"
onto a string like "MoTuWeThFr0800-1600" [or whatever, that's
not a problem].. Then in smtpinit() I would look up
user@host (is that available from smtpinit() ?) using mapkey(),
check the time (if present) against the wall clock, and defer
if required.

Does this sound reasonable, am I re-inventing a wheel ?

Any ideas/suggestions would be most welcome, if there's
interest, I'll summarise to the net.

Thanks.
-- 
andyw.	N0REN/G1XRL

andyw@aspen.cray.com	Andy Warner, Cray Research, Inc.	(612) 683-5835
From: A.Macpherson@uk.co.bnr (Andrew Macpherson (Postmaster))
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: Limit on size of incoming mail files
Date: 24 Jan 93 16:24:16 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.
Phone: +44 279 402423
Organisation: BNR Europe, HARLOW, Essex CM17 9NA, GB
Return-Path: <local-uk-sendmail-workers-request@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
X-Mailer: mail-news 2.0.5

Yes, delete the Maxsize=100000 in your Mailer specification.
and get your feed to do likewise.

Mlocal,	Path=/bin/mail, Flags=DFlmnsr, Argv=mail -d $u, Maxsize=1024000
Mprog,	Path=/bin/sh,   Flags=DFlns,   Argv=sh -c $u

I have here a 1M limit for real deliveries, and unlimited for programs

Mark Oakley wrote:
| I was wondering... Is it possible to increase or even remove the file
| size limit on incoming mail. The default seems to 100,000 bytes.
| 
| TIA
| 
| Mark
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.unix.aix
From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
Subject: Re: I want to be able to use MX records on IBM AIX
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 21:31:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.180032.4365@uvm.edu> wollman@sadye.emba.uvm.edu (Garrett Wollman) writes:
>Quoth RFC 1123, ``Requirements for Internet Hosts'':
>
>      5.3.5  Domain Name Support
>[..]
>
>It's time for IBM to stop fooling around on this one.  MX PROCESSING
>IS *****NOT***** AN OPTION!

	Calm down!  Who says that all workstations running AIX are
connected to the Internet?  If they're not, it's just wasted resources.
*You* run with an MX mailer, and *I* run with an MX mailer.  It doesn't
mean that *everyone* *everwhere* need run an MX mailer.

--Dave
-- 
System Administrator, Population Research Institute    barr@pop.psu.edu
A .sig quote is like a summer job, okay for a few months but not much more.
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert)
Subject: Re: SunOs 4.1.1 sendmail MX problem
Organization: Northern Illinois University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:42:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.185718.7087@newshost.lanl.gov> jroberts@beta.lanl.gov (Jack C. Roberts) writes:

>Client OS:      SunOS 4.1.1

>mr.xxx.yyy has been set up as a mail exchanger.  If I try to mail to
>user@mr.xxx.yyy my sendmail on the sun tells me:
>
>jack@mr.xxx.yyy... Never heard of host mr in domain xxx . yyy

You are doing something that the designers of 'sendmail.{main,subsidiary}.cf'
did not contemplate.  To oversimplify, the config is checking if a local
host in your domain exists, and if not is displaying this message.  But
the test for existence is a simple gethostbyname() which fails if there
is no address associated with the host.

Toward the end of 'sendmail.cf' you will find rules approximately
like this:

	R$*<@$%y.LOCAL>$*	$#ether $@$2 $:$1<@$2>$3

	... (a few more rules)

	R$*<@$*.LOCAL>$*	$#error $:Never heard of host $2 in domain $m

Between those two rules you need to insert:

	R$*<@=X.LOCAL>$*	$#ether $@2 $:$1<@2>$3

and near the top of the config, you need to add

	# Define local MX only addresses within our domain.
	CXmr

If your config is based on 'sendmail.main.cf' it would be better to change
the '$#ether' to '$#ddn'.
From: pnta@warren.med.harvard.edu (Patrick Nta)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Hostname lookup failure
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:40:01 GMT
Followup-To: comp.mail.sendmail
Organization: Harvard Medical School

1.  I've recently been experiencing a "Hostname Lookup failure" error
messages from our sendmail system (HPUX version 16.6/15.6), mostly when the
address is in a foreign country ( e.g csman.csie.ntu.edu.tw). What should I
do to solve this problem.

2. We receive large messages that tie up our gateway, how can I program
sendmail to only deliver messages of certain sizes only on off hours (after
6.00 pm).

3. Where can I get the latest list of bitnet hosts files.


Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: eric@CS.Berkeley.EDU (Eric Allman)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: sendmail update (6.12)
Date: 21 Jan 1993 23:45:24 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley Mammoth Project
Distribution: world
Reply-To: eric@CS.Berkeley.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: mastodon.cs.berkeley.edu

Yesterday I said I wouldn't produce another version until after USENIX,
but I was hit with a bunch of serious bugs this morning (at least one
of which dates from release 5).  So, check it out -- FTP.CS.Berkeley.EDU,
directory ucb/sendmail.  The welcome message will give you details.

Changes:
        Fix yet-another problem with environment handling, pointed out
                by Yoshitaka Tokugawa and Tom Ivar Helbekkmo.
        Some heuristics to try to limit resource exhaustion problems
                if a downstream host has been down for a long time.
        Fix problem with incorrect host name being logged in "Connection
                timed out" messages (from Tom Ivar Helbekkmo).
        Fix some ANSI C problems (from Takahiro Kanbe).
        Properly log message sender on returned mail during queue run.
        Count number of recipients properly.
        Fix a problem in yp map code.
        Diagnose "message timed out" (from Nakamura Motonori).

eric
From: OPER@UK.AC.MANCHESTER.ASTRONOMY.STARLINK (Vassilis Laspias - Starlink Manager)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Rewriting rules
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:58:00 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.
Return-Path: <local-uk-sendmail-workers-request@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
X-Mailer: mail-news 2.0.5

I am trying to create a sendmail.cf, according to uk-2.1 sendmail.cf) which 
knows how to handle DECnet mail as well. Unfortunately the documentation doesn't 
mention anything about DECnet.

I would appreciate if you could give me some instructions and/or forward me a
template sendmail.cf.

Thank you,

=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
| Dr Vassilis Laspias             |  Voice:   +44 61 275 4236         |
| STARLINK Computer Manager       |                                   |
| Department of Astronomy         |  Fax:     +44 61 273 5867         |
| University of Manchester        |  Telex:   666517 UNIMAN G         |
| Manchester, M13 9PL             | Internet: OPER@STAR.AST.MAN.AC.UK |
! Janet:  OPER@UK.AC.MAN.AST.STAR | (OPER%STAR.AST.MAN.AC.UK@UKACRL)  |
=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.unix.bsd
From: clu@malihh.hanse.de (Carsten Lutz)
Subject: sendmail 5.65c/IDA 1.4.4 - problem
Organization: malihh, Hamburg, Germany
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:15:09 GMT

Moin !

I tried compiling sendmail5.65c/IDA1.4.4 under 386bsd ( 0.1 ) today. It seems
like everything should work ( after some smaller changes ), but I get a
mysterious error which I don't understand. I compiled gdbm under 386bsd
( the test-programs showed no problems with this ) and compiled sendmail
with -DGDBM ( and IDA too, of course ). 

When I use gdbm "by hand" to create e.g. the uucp-pahttable and do some
fetches everything looks ok. But when testing sendmail it complains about
the alias-database ( there's no problem in creating one with sendmail -bi )
is locked in some way. Looks like an EAGAIN from errno.h. Here's an
example:

[..powerup, fresh system..]
lemmoncurry:/etc/sendmail (24) > dbm fetch usenet aliases
usenet  [NOT FOUND]
lemmoncurry:/etc/sendmail (25) > dbm dump aliases |grep usenet
usenet   clu						<-- STRANGE, TOO!
lemmoncurry:/etc/sendmail (26) > mail clu@malihh.hanse.de
test
EOT
lemmoncurry:/etc/sendmail (27) > 
can't open database '@' [/etc/sendmail/aliases]: Resource temporarily unavailable
Jan 26 02:14:35 lemmoncurry sendmail[109]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR: can't open database '@' [/etc/sendmail/aliases]: Resource temporarily unavailable
Jan 26 02:14:35 lemmoncurry sendmail[109]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR: can't open database '@' [/etc/sendmail/aliases]: Resource temporarily unavailable

lemmoncurry:/etc/sendmail (27) > dbm fetch usenet aliases
aliases{.dir,.pag}: Resource temporarily unavailable
lemmoncurry:/etc/sendmail (28) > 

I don't have any idea what is happening here. Any help appreciated.

greetings,
		Carsten

-- 
* Carsten Lutz, Rellingen, FRG / clu@malihh.hanse.de ( NeXTmail accepted )  *
*   Voice : +49 4101 512493  Fax: +49 4101 27757  Traily : +49 4101 22306   *
From: weisen@alw.nih.gov (Neil Weisenfeld)
Subject: sendmail ALPHA-6.11 problem
Organization: National Inst. of Health, DCRT, CSL
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:15:10 GMT


I have a strange problem that I'm having difficulty tracking down.  I'm
using v6.11 ALPHA of sendmail and I find that when sendmail is started from
the /etc/rc.* scripts upon boot-up, the sendmail is in a strange state where
it seems to be operating normally, but doesn't recognize any users.  I can
telnet to the SMTP port, but a VRFY root or a VRFY weisen comes back with
the user unknown....no such file or directory error.  Anyone have any
debugging tips?

--Neil


--
Neil I. Weisenfeld                    National Institutes of Health
Computer Engineer                     Building 12A, Room 2033
weisen@alw.nih.gov                    Bethesda, MD 20892
uunet!nih-csl!weisen                  phone: (301) 402-2788
From: avolio@tis.com (Frederick M Avolio)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: sendmail.cf documentation
Date: 23 Jan 1993 14:48:36 GMT
Organization: Trusted Information Systems, Inc.
Reply-To: avolio@tis.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: gildor.tis.com
Originator: avolio@gildor.tis.com

In article <C1Apqq.Ct2@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> ang@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Michael Ang) writes:
>In article <C19MyA.H1A@moscow.uidaho.edu> johnd@snake.cs.uidaho.edu (John Dickinson) writes:
>>
>>I have trouble reading sendmail.cf files :)
>ftp to ftp.uu.net and you will find some good doc. in /pub/networking/mail


There will also be one if not two sendmail books out in the next few
months.

f
From: OAKLEYM@uk.ac.edge-hill-college.ccs ("Mark Oakley")
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Limit on size of incoming mail files
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:44:56 GMT
Organization: Computer Centre Services
X-Address: St. Helens Road, Ormskirk, Lancashire L39 4QP, UK
X-Organisation: Edge Hill College of Higher Education
X-Pmrqc:      1
Original-Via: tardis.ehche.ac.uk; Fri, 22 Jan 93 14:45:02 GMT
X-Telephone: +44 695 575171
Priority: normal
X-Fax: +44 695 579997
Return-Path: <local-uk-sendmail-workers-request@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
X-Mailer:     Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R5)., mail-news 2.0.5

I was wondering... Is it possible to increase or even remove the file
size limit on incoming mail. The default seems to 100,000 bytes.

TIA

Mark

From: Computer Unit, Edge Hill College of Higher Education,
      St. Helens Road, Ormskirk, Lancashire  L39  4QP
Tel:  +44 695 575171  Ext. 4354/4300     DDI:  +44 695 584354
Fax:  +44 695 579997

JANET:                   oakleym@uk.ac.ehche.ccs
Internet/EARN/BITNET:    oakleym@ccs.ehche.ac.uk
UUCP:                    oakley.m%ccs.ehche.ac.uk@uknet.uucp
Organization: Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:14:03 -0500 
From: Jon Allen Boone <jb3o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Problem with sendmail 5.65/Ultrix3.0-C under ULTRIX 4.3
Reply-To: iain+@cmu.edu

Folks,

  After installing Ultrix 4.3 on my machines, I have found that
sendmail no longer works like it did under Ultrix 3.1.  In fact, it
doesn't work for any version of Ultrix 4.2 or higher.  Here's the
relevant portion of our /etc/sendmail.cf:

# The $w CLASS can be used to define "nicknames" for the local host.
# These are alternate names that other systems may use to direct mail
# to the local host. If this feature is used, the class should contain
# the set of all names by which this host is known by. This feature
# might normally be used when the local host name is revised but it is
# not feasable to notify all other hosts of the new name.
# Additionally, it may be that the local host is known by one name on
# the internet and another name on additional networks to which this
# host is connected. 
#

Fw/etc/hostmx

where /etc/hostmx is a file containing the name of the various
machines which have mx records pointing to our mailer.  Correct
behavior is for the mailer to recognize that it is to accept mail for
all the hosts listed in /etc/hostmx.

  Now under Ultrix 3.1  (Sendmail5.57/Ultrix2.4-C), this works fine.
But with the sendmail 5.65/Ultrix3.0-C version it doesn't work.  So, I
grabbed a copy of the non-IDA sendmail sources from uunet and compiled
them -- guess what!  They don't work either.  Anybody got a clue as to
why they don't work?   

/*****************************************************************************/
/* Jon `Iain` Boone   Network Systems Administrator     boone@psc.edu        */
/* iain+@cmu.edu      Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center  (412) 268-6959       */
/* I don't speak for anyone other than myself, unless otherwise stated!!!!!! */
/*****************************************************************************/
From: eric@CS.Berkeley.EDU (Eric Allman)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: Limit on size of incoming mail files
Date: 22 Jan 1993 18:37:47 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley Mammoth Project
Distribution: world
Reply-To: eric@CS.Berkeley.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: mastodon.cs.berkeley.edu

In article <MAILQUEUE-101.930122144456.288@edge-hill-college.ac.uk>, OAKLEYM@uk.ac.edge-hill-college.ccs ("Mark Oakley") writes:
|> I was wondering... Is it possible to increase or even remove the file
|> size limit on incoming mail. The default seems to 100,000 bytes.

Most versions of sendmail don't limit incoming message sizes (except
for the disk space available in the queue).  However, there are limits
on outgoing message size.  Look in your sendmail.cf file for lines
beginning with the letter "M" -- if they have something like:

	Mfoo ... M=100000 ...

then message size limiting is enabled.  Remove the M= part or set it
to a larger number.

eric
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: ltodd@cass.ma02.bull.com (Larry Todd)
Subject: dbm questions
Organization: Bull World Wide Information Systems Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:26:25 GMT

I have taken over support of a system running sendmail.5.65.C with IDA
facilities for creating databases.  I have some questions concerning
the dbm command:

What is the difference between the "dbm make" and "dbm load" commands?

Can the "dbm load" command be run without running the "dbm make" command
first?

What is the function of the "link" command?  Must it be executed to have
the database facility function correctly?

Any information on this subject would be much appreciated.

Larry Todd
Bull HN Worldwide Information Systems
l.todd@ma02.bull.com
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: gatenb@mrisun.med.yale.edu (Chris Gatenby)
Subject: a SIMPLE question about routing
Reply-To: gatenb@mrisun.med.yale.edu
Organization: Dept. NMR Research, Yale University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:30:38 GMT

Hi,
This is a v. simple question to all you sendmail gods, that will hopefully make you
feel good in answering it off the top of your heads:
We have a Sparc which is connected to name server, and so any mail that is sent to a
resolvable name will be sent correctly. However, not all mail addresses have IP 
numbers associated with them. In these cases the mail bounces with the message 
"host unknown".
If this occurs, our work around is to send mail via a more intelligent machine using
this format:
prompt% mail username%computer.domainaddress@intelligent-machine-address
instead of the usual
prompt% mail username@computer.domainaddress

So, I would like to know if there is a simple fix to sendmail.cf to send all mail via
the intelligent machine, or maybe just the bounced mail. It would seem to me that this
is a one line fix, but I haven't found it yet.

Thanks in advance,
Chris Gatenby
gatenb@mrisun.med.yale.edu

Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: bruce@blilly.uucp (Bruce Lilly)
Subject: Re: what to do with <@a,@b,@c:u@h>
Organization: Bruce Lilly
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 06:37:02 GMT
Reply-To: lilb@sony.compuserve.com (Bruce Lilly)

In article <C1A97M.3Jx@viper.cs.unm.edu>,
 posted to comp.mail.sendmail,
 mcclure@viper.cs.unm.edu (Brent McClure) wrote:
>We are re-working our sendmail configuration, and our mail relay 
>host currently attempts to route addresses of the form:
>
><@a,@b,@c:u@h> 
>
>to "a", however from what I've been reading from several places 
>it sounds like many sites are simply throwing away the source-route and
>resolving straight to "u@h".  Is this the recommended practice
>now and/or is there any harm in this?

RFC1123 section 5.2.6 permits either. See also section 5.2.19.

-- 
	Bruce Lilly		...uupsi!monymsys!sonyd1!blilly!bruce
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: bruce@blilly.uucp (Bruce Lilly)
Subject: Re: :include: facility in aliases file
Organization: Bruce Lilly
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 23:29:54 GMT
Reply-To: lilb@sony.compuserve.com (Bruce Lilly)

In article <C14GsI.BMs@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>,
 posted to comp.mail.sendmail,
 sammut@durian.citr.uq.oz.au (David Sammut) wrote:
>
>Has anyone successfully used this feature?
>
>(I am running sendmail 5.65c with IDA extensions on a DECstation 5000/240
>running ULTRIX 4.2A)

Yes. Sometime between 5.61 and 5.65c it stopped working with (essentially)
the same configuation file. It can be made to work with 5.65c, but you have
to make sure of the following in your configuration file:

a)	ruleset 3 should pass :include: lines unchanged. Something like

	R:include:$+	$@:include:$1	# return :include: specifications

	near the beginning of ruleset 3 should do the trick. Depending on
	your ruleset 3, it might not be necessary.

b)	ruleset 0 must resolve to the local mailer, preferably without doing
	material damage to the include specification. Again, a single line
	like

	R:include:$+	$#local$@$::include:$1	# resolve :include: specifications to local mailer

	near the start of ruleset 0 should work.

Processing a test message with the -v and -d flags may be informative.

-- 
	Bruce Lilly		...uupsi!monymsys!sonyd1!blilly!bruce
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