From: ilyess@ECE.Concordia.CA (Ilyess Bdira)
Subject: Re: Political cleansing in Egypt
Organization: ECE - Concordia University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:17:56 GMT

In article <28117@optima.cs.arizona.edu> bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken) writes:
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>The government of Egypt is far from perfect, Ilyess, but its
>citizens have more freedom than most neighboring countries.
>The sort of people you cheer for would take most of them away.
>But, hey, it would be what (you think) Allah wants and
>Islam prescribes, yes?

Of course, you as western person who believes in a person being innocent until
proven guilty do not belive this extends to Muslims or to Arabs, that is
why you support a terrorist government who actually caused the problems
in the first place, by suppressing the Jihadis before they commit any
of their recent acts.
Even now, it is engaging in a war to exterminate them (having a green
light to shoot to kill at will), while the people
who committed the terrorist acts were masked and could very well be 
members of the Egyptian Mossad and with the torture that is so widespread
in Egyptian detention centers, confessions are meaningless .. 
But since you love the Egyptian government so much (apparently because
it made peace with Israel, which you have to love since you are a christian
fundamentalist zionist), you are ready to forgive all of its sins.

The egyptian government have been ruling by decree and imposed emergency
measures since 1981 and it is extending it every time it expires..
You say that there is freedom of speech, mabe compared to Tunisia, but
it would not compare favourably even with Cuba.

Of course you yourself know that there will be much more freedom
under the strictest of Islamists than there is in Egypt right now,
you just have to say what you said because it fits your agenda.

I do not know if you are ignorant about this, but don't you know already
that the Egyptian government is envolved in drug trade just like
Noriega was when he was under CIA payroll? Do you know of Drug scandal
with The Tunisian President and his brother? Do you know that a Tunisian
delegation met with an Israeli delegation to ask then to intervene with
the U.S to make ignore the human right issue and the drug issue in exchange
for some undeclared favors? do you know that there is a committe between
Algeria, Tunisia, and Egypt that has one sole function (to exchange expertise
an information on ways to exterminate the Islamic movement?) the same movement
that would (or already has) win the elections in any of those countries...

Sorry to break this to you Dave, the Egyptian, Tunisian, and Algerian
governments are waging a war on their own people with the support of
Israel, France, and the United states.. No wonder extremism is on the rise.

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