HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Misapplied Physics in advertising, more  (was Re: Faces of death)
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 06:30:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.051629.24898@PA.dec.com> snopes%club33@stlth.enet.dec.com (snopes) writes:
>
> No, the hope is that if you *don't* mention snopes, he'll go away.

Does that mean that snopes greps for the absence of snopes?

cjl
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From: jvmg9796@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (doc)
Subject: Re: Faces of death
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 02:19:20 GMT

maynard@esther.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley) writes:

>>but there is a clip at the end of one
>>of them in which a girl is murdered on film for the sole purpose of
>>making
>>a training video for the other cultists.  Yes, the girl was kidnapped and
>>killed for the =sole= reason of murdering her for a video.  

>What does this mean? What were they allegedly being trained in? How to kill
>people?

In a word, yes.  Apparently these cultists have to kill people a certain way
in order to make use of the heads / parts in their rituals.
From: tlouie@athena.mit.edu (Tom Louie)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Co-ed Dorms!
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:33:28 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Aug17.183144.9224@cco.caltech.edu> heathh@cco.caltech.edu (Heath Ian Hunnicutt) writes:
>>ObUL:  At some schools, "co-ed dorm" means that men and women LIVE IN
>>THE SAME BUILDING!
>More like ObFACT.  I live just such a truly co-ed dorm.  In fact, all
>of Caltech's dorms are co-ed in this manner.
>
>>Paul "Ask about Purdue's co-ed dorms..." Joslin	
>>joslin@c0223.ae.ge.com
>
>Heath "Ask about Caltech's co-ed rooms..." Hunnicutt
>heathh@cco.caltech.edu
>
Heh, more like ObCommonplace.  Most of MIT's dorms are co-ed.

Tom "Ask about our co-ed DINING HALLS!" Louie
tlouie@athena.mit.edu
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From: snopes%club33@stlth.enet.dec.com (snopes)
Subject: Re: Faces of death
Organization: Just put everything on the floor; I can find it.
Date: 16 AUG 92 22:34:21    


In article <Bsw16x.IF@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, 
  jvmg9796@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (doc) writes...

>However, the young woman murdered in the 
>film =was= murdered for the sake of the film.  Its intended audience
>was originally other cultists.  If that doesnt scare the hell out of
>anyone here, youre braver than I.

 It doesn't scare me any more than, say, "Pinocchio" did.  They're equally
 "real".

 - snopes

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From: snopes%club33@stlth.enet.dec.com (snopes)
Subject: Re: that'd be in the butt, bob
Organization: Just put everything on the floor; I can find it.
Date: 16 AUG 92 21:46:35    


In article <Bs9qpB.LyE@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, 
  berger@atropa (Mike Berger) writes...

>The fact that people disagree about the details doesn't mean that
>they're all wrong, or that the events didn't happen mostly as
>described.

 No, it doesn't, but when two people both swear they saw the incident and
 remember it as if it were yesterday, yet can't even agree on a major detail
 such as whether it was the man or the women who uttered the infamous line,
 someone is obviously grossly mistaken.  Maybe they both are.

>I claim (honestly) to have seen both.  I didn't know there was ANY
>controversy about the Johnny Carson incident it (it was Zsa-zsa,
>and many newspapers had comments the following day).

 Heh.  Please cite a newspaper and date.  And then notify Johnny, since he
 isn't aware this actually happened.

 - snopes

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Subject: Re: aids started by cia?
From: mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Mcirvin)
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:51:00 GMT
 <16AUG199221553913@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu> <16ncq5INNia4@agate.berkeley.edu> <1992Aug17.154902.14822@husc3.harvard.edu>
Distribution: world,local


>In article <16ncq5INNia4@agate.berkeley.edu> gertben@ocf.berkeley.edu (Benjamin Gertner) writes:
>>was aids started by the us government in secret (the cia or military)? A lot
>>of time and money is spent on bacteriological warfare and it seems obivious
>>that someone would want to test the effects of one of these diseases in the 
>>outside world.

A story to this effect was spread in a Soviet disinformation campaign in
the mid-1980's.  I remember hearing it in shortwave broadcasts around
1986, before glasnost really caught on.  The gist of it was that
AIDS was created in a biological weapons laboratory at Fort Dietrich,
Maryland.  The story, therefore, is a little more than urban folklore:
it's former Commie propaganda!
 
-- 
Matt McIrvin, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA 
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From: mpalmer@b17d.ingr.com (michael paLmer)
Subject: Re: Useful quips
Keywords: kibo didn't write this
Reply-To: mpalmer@zaphod.b17d.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp HSV, AL, USA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:39:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.232930.5239@fid.morgan.com> sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.011031.18757@bert.eecs.uic.edu>
>artn@bert.eecs.uic.edu (Ellyn Sandor) writes:
>
>>	Sir, I send a rhyme excelling
>>	In sacred truth and rigid spelling
>>	Numerical sprites elucidate 
>>	for me the lexicon's full weight
>>	If nature gain who can complain
>>	Tho' Doc Johnson fulminate.
             ^^^
	     should be "Dr."


>Now I, even I, would celebrate
>In rhymes inapt, the great
>Immortal Syracusan, rivaled nevermore,
>Who, in his wondrous lore,
>Passed on before,
>Left men his guidance how to circles mensurate.
>
>There's a Greek translation with the same property.
>
>Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com

Or if you don't need so many decimal places:

How I wish I could recollect of circle round
the exact relation Archimede unwound.

--
Michael G. Palmer
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From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,nyc.general
Subject: Re: Whither Manhattan? (was Re: Cannibaderm, anyone?)
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:33:07 GMT
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <Bt8rpw.68@unx.sas.com> sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com (Bruce Tindall) writes:
>
>In article <=2fytf=@rpi.edu>, kasprj@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak) writes:
>>And just why _is_ that 
>>little piece of the Bronx included?
>
>I've heard [there's that unimpeachable reference again!] that the 
>little piece of Manhattan that's on the mainland used to be connected
>to the island, and separated from the mainland by the (East? Harlem?)
>River, but the river was diverted for some purpose and the old river
>bed was filled in, connecting these few acres of Manhattan to the
>mainland and cutting them off from the rest of the island.

But the original post stands: these people in the affected area will have 
their area code changed to 718, and will "logically" be in the Bronx.  Thus
only those on the island of Manhattan will be 212.  

(There is still the question of the other few islands (Riker's, Roosevelt, 
Ellis, etc., which one has the military base with the swimming pool on it?)
and what area code their phones are, but the Bronx ones are going with the
rest of the Bronx in '93.)

cjl
From: csuah@warwick.ac.uk (~WISP at CU~)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: That'd be In the Air, Phil
Date: 19 Aug 92 10:02:09 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK

In article <1992Aug18.235355.27976@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <q60nbcd1@csv.warwick.ac.uk> csuah@warwick.ac.uk (~WISP at CU~) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug18.150408.14634@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> kristyp@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kristy Patterson) writes:
>>>Standard disclaimer: Apologies if this has been discussed to death.
>>>
>>I've seen nothing on it before...
>
>Then you should read the FAQ before you start flaming the regulars.

Flaming? What was 'flaming' about that post? All I said was "this is the
interpretation I put on the lyrics...". Why bother to read the FAQ anyway?
It's far more fun to make it all up as you go along.

BTW, wasn't FAQ a three-sided album by Monty Python...

The Wisp. [rhinodermia isn't necesarrily a bad thing...]
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From: stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame)
Subject: Re: Useful quips
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 00:32:17 GMT

In article <TG9IX06@taronga.com> arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva) writes:
>
>How about the ones for FORD?
>
>You have the lovely Found On Road Dead and the always amusing
>Fix Or Repair Daily.

F*cked Over Rebuilt Dodge
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From: olsen@xn.ll.mit.edu
Subject: Re: Modem tax back
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Lexington, MA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 01:14:42 GMT

tad@ssc.wa.com (Tad Cook) writes:
>I am saying that Compuserve ... pays NOTHING (other than for the
>point of presence) while other carriers pay the tarriffed rate.

Compuserve and its subscribers pay standard local rates for standard local
calls.  If you persist in calling this 'nothing', then I'm afraid it's
pointless to argue with you.

>The "idea" that residential rates are subsidized by business rates
>is not a "canard"  (a false or unfounded story).

In arriving at the above statement, what method did you use for
apportioning the cost of call switching equipment between residential
and business users?

>Remember the local telco has a regulated rate of return.  You cut
>someone's rates, and everyone else's goes up.

The 'regulated rate of return' includes two factors which may
be amenable to change:

  1) illegal cost-shifting, and
  2) monopoly inefficiency.

Factor 1) is under control of the RBOC management, and could presumably
be reduced if necessary.  Factor 2) is absolutely inevitable in any
monopoly, and is a hidden cost of any system (like cross-subsidies)
which inhibits competition; when competition comes, we'll see just how
important it is.

>>The proper way to subsidize universal service (if necessary) is to have
>>all telephone rates based on cost, unbundle the rates to allow
>>competition in telephone switching, and to levy a tax on top of all
>>these rates to subsidize residential service...

>Oh, great!  Then the rural users pay thousands of dollars per
>month for the "true cost" of providing service into low desity
>areas, and the telcos just fight over providing the lowest cost
>service to big customers in the city.  Some telephone service!

IF some residential users (rural or urban) need a subsidy (a thing of
which I'm not persuaded, but am willing to consider as possible) then
the subsidy should be paid for by all the other subscribers, who
benefit from universal service.  Why should long-distance networks
(data and voice) be the sugar-daddies for everyone else?
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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Ginsu Knives
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:04:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.094547.10046@athena.cs.uga.edu> jordan@castor.cs.uga.edu (Chuck Jordan) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.233556.4903@zip.eecs.umich.edu> stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame) writes:
>>>>So stab him.
>>>
>>>Excellent idea.  I wonder, what would be the best -- the most unusual --
>>>place to stab him?
>>>[ All together now... ]
>>
>>Let's get a camera and film it and make a snuff film so we can kill
>>that damn thread once and for all.  Next person who asks about snuff
>>films after that, we'll send them a copy . . . 
>
>Didn't Monty Python make an album that had three sides?
>
>Chuck "Sorry, I panicked" Jordan

I think that was Gladstone.  Maybe Disraeli.

Ted "two, count 'em, two original a.f.u running gags to his credit" Frank
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From: sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com (Bruce Tindall)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Useful quips
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:43:27 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Originator: sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com


In article <ceW1u1O00VpAIKNKx4@andrew.cmu.edu>, jf41+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jonathan R. Ferro) writes:
>Density of liquid water:
>       A pint's a pound, the world around.

But it's not, because a British (imperial) pint is about 1.2 times
as big as an American pint.  568 versus 473 cubic centimeters,
according to the Merriam-Webster dictionary.  
-- 
Bruce Tindall, Core Testing Manager, SAS Institute Inc., Cary NC 27513
From: steve@fulcrum.oz.au (Steve Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: UL's in Literature List
Date: 17 Aug 92 07:16:35 GMT
Organization: The Fulcrum Consulting Group

In <Bszx6A.AsK@world.std.com> lmh@world.std.com (Larry M Headlund) writes:

>FILMS:
>_Diamond's are Forever_
>	Oblique visual reference to "Moon landings faked on movie lot"
And "Capricorn One", which was about a faked Mars/Moon landing. I don't 
remember it well, but I remember it was a Turkey.

>Larry Headlund  lmh@world.std.com    Eikonal Systems (617) 482-3345 


						Steve
						steve@fulcrum.oz.au
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From: mem@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett)
Subject: Re: Ginsu Knives
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:58:40 GMT

In article <89C402Bl1dzE01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll) writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.045722.6315@mv.mv.com>, mem@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett) 
>writes:
>> I did not write the above.  Gary Schroeder must have gone out of his
>> way or his mind to make it look like I did.  I did not.  I merely
>> commented on it.
>
>So stab him.

Excellent idea.  I wonder, what would be the best -- the most unusual --
place to stab him?

[ All together now... ]

-mm-

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From: guppy@wixer.cactus.org (Jennifer Mery)
Subject: Re: Cannibaderm, anyone?
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 07:08:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.160028.8473@panix.com> eck@panix.com (Mark Eckenwiler) writes:
>ObUL: Dialing 958 at a NYC payphone generates a voice recording of the
>payphone's number.

ObFollowup: 830 does the same thing in Austin.


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From: sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com (Bruce Tindall)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Useful quips
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:57:48 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Originator: sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com


In article <1992Aug12.002334.27055@gagme.chi.il.us>, pv@gagme.chi.il.us (Paul Vader) writes:
>Bonus points if someone can think of a practical reason to know pi to this
>precision except as a geek mating call.

1.  Calculating the surface area of John Goodman to within the
    nearest hectare.
2.  As a mnemonic in case you forget the "How I want a drink..."
    sentence.
3.  Being able to ridicule a certain large computer company
    which for years sent out an example program that used a
    variable named "PI" which was set to an incorrect value.
4.  Figuring out Dan Quayle's IQ, which is ((pi) minus (the value
    of pi to the first 14 decimal places)).
5.  Passing the truth on to the younger generations about
    twenty years from now, after all the state legislatures,
    under the influence of right-wing traditional-family-values
    majorities, pass legislation requiring the teaching of
    creation science in biology class, the setting of PI=3.000
    in math class, the Bilderberger/Trilateral conspiracy theory
    in history class, and Unix in computer science class.
6.  DWM, 36, seeks geekette to share meaningful circumference 
    calculations, deep emotional discussions of ANSI PL/I standard, 
    and grammar/spelling/pi flames.  No weirdos please!!!  Reply Box 
    314159265358979, Usenet Daily News.

Actually, there were supposed to be 14 digits after the decimal
point in Paul's mail, but when I received it there were only 3.
My doberman was choking on the other digit.  The police told me
to get out of the newsgroup NOW.











-- 
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From: tlouie@athena.mit.edu (Tom Louie)
Subject: Re: The Brunswick Affair
Keywords: A quart?!
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:08:58 GMT

In article <Bt7MI2.Cz9@news.cso.uiuc.edu> catstyle@deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu (CatStyle ) writes:
>About 10 years ago I saw a filler on HBO on something called the Brunswick
>Affair.  Apparently, a tv station in Canada was broadcasting some weird
>signal during certain commercials that caused people to go out and buy
>ridiculous amounts of the product being advertised.  I only saw it once
>and wasn't able to determine if it all was some kind of joke.

That sounds a lot like the David Cronenberg movie Videodrome.  It is a
gory movie about a television station that's broadcasting subliminal
snuff films in an attempt to control the world.  Unbeliebably AFU-ish.

Terrible movie, but really good FX scenes.

Tom "" Louie
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From: stevens@madvlsi.columbia.edu (Andy Stevens)
Subject: Re: Whither Manhattan? (was Re: Cannibaderm, anyone?)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:09:47 GMT
X-Posted-From: france.madvlsi.columbia.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <=2fytf=@rpi.edu>, kasprj@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug19.000536.15374@fid.morgan.com>, sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
|> |> No, 212 is for the Borough called Manhattan, which is the county named
|> |> New York.  The island of Manhattan has different borders.
|>  
|>  Okay, so let's inject some FACTS (sorry) into this discussion. As far as I
|> know, the Borough of Manhattan includes (besides Manhattan Island itself)
|> a few blocks across the Spuyten Duyvil in the Bronx, and possibly the docks
|> on the Brooklyn side of the East River (I'm not 100% sure about that). 
|>  

A good reference for this is a good ol' AAA New York City street map,
which shows the few blocks in the Bronx which are part of NY County,
but not the docks in Brooklyn.

Does anybody know the historical reason for those few blocks in the
Bronx?

--andy

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From: stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame)
Subject: Re: Ginsu Knives
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:35:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.135840.28736@mv.mv.com> mem@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett) writes:
>In article <89C402Bl1dzE01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug11.045722.6315@mv.mv.com>, mem@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett) 
>>writes:
>>> I did not write the above.  Gary Schroeder must have gone out of his
>>> way or his mind to make it look like I did.  I did not.  I merely
>>> commented on it.
>>
>>So stab him.
>
>Excellent idea.  I wonder, what would be the best -- the most unusual --
>place to stab him?
>
>[ All together now... ]

Let's get a camera and film it and make a snuff film so we can kill
that damn thread once and for all.  Next person who asks about snuff
films after that, we'll send them a copy . . . 

		-- Stewart "actually it's my evil twin.  I'm really
				a nice, gentle person" Tame

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From: chuck_adams@qmail.ssc.gov (Chuck Adams)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Another Infinnite Thread in the Works
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:06:50 GMT
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory

In article <1992Aug19.032720.4656@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu
(Ted Frank) writes:

>Don't you hate when both the spelling flame and the followup to the
>spelling flame have mispelled words?
>
>Ted "and then their's the followup to the followup..." Frank
>
> 
>There are four mistakes in this followup post; can you find them?
> 
>1. Infinnite --> Infinite
> 
>2. mispelled --> misspelled
> 
>3. their's --> there's
> 
>4. four --> three
>-- 
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>             the university of chicago law skool, chicago, illinois
                                            ^^^^^
>             you can't throw me to the lions -- i'm charlton heston

You really did this on purpose - right?

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From: cromar@math.rutgers.edu (Scott Cromar)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Faces of death
Date: 15 Aug 92 21:02:43 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

joltes@husc8.harvard.edu (Richard Joltes) writes:

> Accusations of "ritual killing of babies" go back to, oh, probably at least
> 1000AD (documentable, that is).  Undocumented?  How old is civilization?

Hell, they go back further than that.  In the Old Testament, the
references to people "passing children through the fire" is a
reference to child sacrifice.  I once talked to a biblical scholar
who said that he considered most such passages to be nothing less than
propaganda about how bad the members of the other sect were.

--Scott
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