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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: A very unnerving message
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:57:29 GMT

In article <MSALETNI.93Jan6121034@jade.tufts.edu> msaletni@jade.tufts.edu (Michael J. Saletnik) writes:
>As I was working yesterday, I had a few intense processes going.  As a
>result, when I opened a folder, my drive started going nuts.
>Suddenly, I heard a sound that reminded me all too well of my last
>hard drive when its heads slammed into the platters.  Only louder and
>much worse.  I received the message:
>	A defective sector on drive D: has been replaced.
>	No data was lost.
>	You should run CHKDSK soon to restore full performance
>	and to replenish the spare sector area of the volume.
>This was an HPFS disk.
>Now, what *really* happened?  Is this legit?  Based on the sound from
>the drive, I thought it was tracking off the end of the disk.  I can't
>imagine that kind of bang, grind, and click (yup, all three) from
>merely failing to find a sector.

It is legit.

What you have discovered is a minor bit of fault tolerance found in
HPFS under OS/2.  It is called hot fix.  During format HPFS sets aside
a certain number of spare sectors (100 by default, I believe).  If
HPFS encounters a bad sector during operation it will borrow one of
these spare sectors from its pool and "hot fix" the sector, mapping
the spare in place of the defective sector.  It all happens
transparently, and your only notification is that warning dialog.

If you didn't have this feature, you would now be going through a
rather painful recovery procedure, quite possibly, trying to restore
the file that was occupying that bad sector.  Your system may have
been rendered inoperable if the file was critical enough.

Clever, isn't it?

>When I booted from floppy and ran CHKDSK, it told me:
>	CHKDSK corrected a minor filesystem error
>Great message, eh?
>Any thoughts are welcome...

It's amazing that OS/2 takes it so casually, but that's what HPFS buys
you -- added security.

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From: teague@a.cs.okstate.edu (Keith Teague)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 2.1 Bugs
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:38:37 GMT
Organization: Oklahoma State University

I have installed 2.1 beta and noticed a couple of things.

1) Irwin tape support w/4100c controller now appears to work properly.
   It was broken with GA+SP and some previous versions of beta.

2) I am getting random system hangs when running certain utilities. Yesterday
   when using Info-Zip 5.0 (32-bit version) to unzip a large archive, the
   system hung and I had to reset to reboot. The mouse was still responsive
   but I could not change the focus to another window or bring up the
   task list with <cntl>esc. I waited several minutes to see if anything
   would happen - it didn't. This has also happened with the gnu mv utility.

   Anybody else seen this? Any ideas?

Keith Teague
From: ching@angelo.amd.com (Mike Ching)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: MS Access does not run on OS/2 2.0
Date: 10 Jan 93 22:25:11 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Santa Clara, CA

In article <1993Jan10.045541.18890@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> mmannan@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Mohammed Mannan) writes:
>I have recently bought the MS Access package (couldn't help it so cheap).
>During installation, it replaced some of the dlls, citing, I may have some
>outdated ones. Now, whenver I run Access, OS/2 goes crazy and I have to
>reboot.
>
>MS Access is supposed to run on windows 3.0 (it says so on the packaging) and
>OS/2 runs windows 3.0 applications. What happened?
>
>Anyone know if win 3.1 will run on top of OS/2, instead of running on
>top of DOS?
>
>
>Thank you,
>
>M. Mannan


There's a review of Access in today's San Jose Mercury in which half the
column is devoted to warning people about buying new programs. Access got
1/4 for performance, 2/4 for ease of use, and 1/4 for value. The reviewer
hadn't experienced problems but repeated reports found in the trade press
and bulletin boards. I don't think much of reviews based on someone else's
experience but it would appear that Access doesn't work any better under
Windows than OS/2. It'll be interesting to see if anyone will pay $695 for
it after Jan. 31.

Mike Ching
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rcmerrit@apgea.army.mil (Robert C. Merritt <rcmerrit>)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: MSCDEX in OS/2
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:30:05 GMT
Organization: APG-Edgewood

In article <1993Jan7.195520.11213@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.154627.26421@apgea.army.mil> rcmerrit@apgea.army.mil (Robert C. Merritt <rcmerrit>) writes:
>>Anyways, is there a version of mscdex.exe that works with os/2's verson of
>>dos? I want to run my CD-rom from a dos window/or full screen but all it
>>ever says is "incorrect dos version". I tried adding to my dos_version
>>settings:
>>mscdex.exe,5,00,255
>>and when that didn't work I tried:
>>mscdex.exe,4,01,255.
>>now I can get it to load in a VDM with msdos 5.00 but since I can't load it
>>high, there isn't room enough to run t of the programs I have for the bleedin
>>thing!
>
>Yes you can, if you use the memory management files provided in
>\OS2\MDOS (not the ones provided with MS-DOS 5.00).  See Appendix E of
>your Installation Guide and/or the online Command Reference under
>VMDISK for further instructions.
>
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I finally figured that out myself last night. Although It was a pure guess.
Thanks for giving my an answer though!

ok, now the strange part. I loaded everything high, no problem, I go to my
CD rom to start playing wing commander 2. but guess what, os/2 write protects
my C drive! (the game needs to store configuration information on the hard 
disk). ok, no problem, I just added fsfilter to my config.sys. problem solved,
right? well I can write to C drive now BUT when I load msxdex high it says
pack file corrupted! ok, I'm back to the beginning, I have to load it low.
That gives me only 560K free and I need 600! Any suggestion, anyone?
Rob Merritt
From: spring@diku.dk (Jesper Honig Spring)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Does anyone know a security-prog. for OS/2
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:20:11 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

Hello,

I'm looking for a programme, which will ask for a password each time the
machine boots up. Does anyone no if such a programme exist and if so; where
can I get it.

Thanks in advance

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From: selliott@cup.portal.com (J Steve Elliott)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Help me find my master help index.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 21:34:55 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

I seem to have lost my master help index. When I open the object, I get
the familiar index tabs, but no subjects are listed. Could someone please
tell me what kind of linkage needs to be in place for this to work? 

I need to know, the settings, and what config.sys statements should be
for this to work, as well as what files must be in place. Thanx, 

Steve Elliott
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Opinion:  What IBM should change in OS/2
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:32:13 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <LZ11wB2w165w@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca> frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca writes:
>About the only the I liked about Windows was that the Program Manager
>blanked the screen after a certain period of keyboard and mouse 
>inactivity -- pressing any key or even just moving the mouse would
>restore the screen.
>
>Gawd, I wish WPS did that!

The closest thing WPS gets to this is Lockup.  But you need to type a
password to unlock the display.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: vonk@cs.rochester.edu (Peter VonKaenel)
Subject: OS/2 Monthly
Organization: University of Rochester
Distribution: comp.os.os2.misc
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:12:17 GMT


Hi,

	Would someone please post or e-mail me the 800 number for
OS/2 Monthly mag.  I still haven't received the Dec. issue and am starting
to wonder if they lost my subscription.

Thanks,
Peter von Kaenel  (vonk@cs.rochester.edu)
From: king@cs.uq.oz.au (Paul King)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Ready for Letters under OS/2
Date: 8 Jan 93 02:07:41 GMT
Reply-To: king@cs.uq.oz.au

In <ZiV1wB2w165w@salzo.Cary.NC.US> tom@salzo.Cary.NC.US (Tom Salzmann) writes:

>> In article <11590@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> king@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>>You are correct, I get the same problem.  I can overcome the problem
>>by using VMdisk (which effectively gives you a specific DOS 5.0

>Are you SURE about this?!??!  I have been informed that games such as this
>and the SBPRO parrot will never work under OS/2 because of the filthy way
>they try to use the hardware timer.  I cannot get either to work in ANY
>kind of DOS session including VMdisk.  Both fail when they try to talk.

You are probably correct, I haven't been able to reproduce the environment
which I thought enabled me to get speech.  I had been using DOS for a
different reason and it is the only environment which works for me
at the moment.  Sorry about the confusion.  Anyone else have any
suggestions?  I would be happy to have a way gave me access to Ready
For Letters (i.e gave the whole machine temporarily to this session)
as long as I could get back to the WPS without a reboot.  Would it
be possible to trap Ctrl-Alt-Del just for particular "real DOS"
sessions and revert back to WPS instead of rebooting?

Paul.
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From: SPGJAF@CMSA.Berkeley.Edu (Joseph A. Faracchio)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Comm Programs
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 11:48:54 PST
Organization: UC Berkeley (TCPIP)
NNTP-Posting-Host: cmsa.berkeley.edu

In article <1993Jan8.231519.10817@usl.edu>
das9674@ucs.usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>
>Hmm, maybe I'll look into commercial programs, I hate loading up WINOS/2 every
>time I want to check email.
>-dan
 
RexxTerm     by Charles Daney
Quercus Systems         P.O. Box 2157 Saratoga,  CA   95070
(408) 257-3697
 
there is a setting for destructive backspace and it does vt100 and vt52
plus a few other terminal emulatations.
                                       cheers .. joe.f.
From: jwty@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Wing Commander I & II w/ OS/2 2.0
Date: 9 Jan 93 22:48:11 EST
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell University

In article <1993Jan4.225747.3154@pacdata.uucp>,
jimh@pacdata.uucp (Jim Harkins) writes: 
> In article <92366.034239CXKPE@ASUACAD.BITNET> Chin , Jeffery <CXKPE@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
>>I'm running OS/2 2.0 on a 486/33 and I'm trying to get WC I & II to run
>>acceptably.  They are running very slowly and the sound is out of synch or
>>corrupted.  I'm only using the PC speaker for the sound.
> 
> I was rather shocked when I installed WC I christmas night (thanks dad!) and
> it ran fine.  Of course, I've got a default DOS window with all the typical
> settings (timer access on, video refresh emulation off, etc).  I'm on a 50 Mhz
> 486 with a soundblaster, disk formatted with HPFS.
> 
  I've noticed that some games (eg F117-A Stealth Fighter) that use the
PC speaker for sound run incredibly slowly under OS/2.  I'd suggest running
WC with the sound off.  Or better yet, invest in a sound card - my Thunderboard
was a bit pricy but well worthwhile, and I think the price has dropped since
I bought mine, to about $100 by mail.

  Interestingly, I tried playing WCII SO2 under DOS and couldn't - it
crashed so frequently I couldn't finish even a single mission.  It still
crashed occasionally when I ran it under OS/2, but that happened infrequently
enough that it wasn't a big deal.  Kinda supports IBM's claim that OS/2 is
a better DOS than DOS!

	Chris Koresko
	koresko@astrosun.tn.cornell.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: samiam@netcom.com (Scott Moore)
Subject: Re: 9600 baud FAX modems under OS/2: Recommendations??
Keywords: FAX modem, 9600, OS/2
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 09:18:56 GMT

hartzman@kilroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Les Hartzman) writes:

>I'm looking into getting a 9600 baud FAX modem (int. or ext.), and I'd like
>to know which ones work with OS/2 2.x.  I already have heard good things about
>the PMFax application, and I've heard bad things about Zoom modems.  And yes,
>I can't find it in the bank account to go to a 14.4 modem.

>Thanks in advance for any recommendations.

The best modem I have seen so far is the digicomm which is selling in LA for
$200 (data and fax). I have not seen a 9600 baud modem for cheaper than that
but perhaps someone here has. It includes buffered uart capabillity. I have
not tried the 2.1 faxette with it as 2.1 does not yet work on a Tseng et4000, 
but have been able to fax using other programs.

                                                   [sam]
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jurlwin@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU (Jeff Urlwin)
Subject: Re: HPFS vs. FAT partitions
Organization: University of Maine, Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:03:00 GMT

In article <1irk9lINN9s7@neuro.usc.edu> merlin@neuro.usc.edu (merlin) writes:
>Do I understand correctly that if you install OS/2 2.0 with HPFS that
>it will not be able to see other DOS FAT partitions on the same disk?

No, you don't.  DOS won't see the HPFS partitions, but OS/2 does both.

Jeff

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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Changing the color of icon text
Date: 9 Jan 93 09:09:17 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <7c53wB1w165w@berry.Cary.NC.US> pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry) writes:
>I recently got my hands on a background bitmap that I really like (the
>Enterprise NCC-1701D firing its phasers at a Windows 3.1 logo, hee
>hee!), and I decided to replace my boring old gray desktop with it.  The
>text labels of my icons didn't stand out very well, so I decided to
>change it, using the Scheme Palette editor.
>
>Changing the text for regular icons was no problem -- I just selected
>Icon Text and picked a new color.  But I've been unable to change the
>color of the text labels on my shadow icons!  I select Icon Text, pick a
>new color, and drag the scheme icon to the desktop . . . and nothing
>happens.  I can't figure out why it doesn't work.

Shadows have their own icon text color: Shadow Text.  You can only
access this item via the combo-box in the scheme palette.  While
you're there, you can change the Shadow-Hilight-Text, and
Shadow-Hilight-Background.  Alt-drag the scheme to activate it.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: OS/2 and what version of DOS
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 04:56:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.145242.9092@piston.detroit.ingr.com> goeckefw@piston.detroit.ingr.com (Fred Goeckel) writes:
>What version of DOS dos OS/2 2.0 come with.  I though I read that it was
>DOS 5.0 - is this true.  Also, If you have a machine setup for dual boot
>with DOS and OS/2 - does OS/2 use the DOS on the machine or the DOS that
>comes with OS/2.  Thanks - this info is very important to find out - I 
>have a lunch riding on this.  Thanks again !!!!!

To answer the first question, it comes with a DOS emulation that is
equivalent to DOS Version 5.0.  (You get LOADHIGH, QBASIC, etc.)

To answer the second question, it can be configured to run either.  By
default it will use emulated DOS, but you can run "real" DOS as well
(by using several methods, in fact -- there are lots of options here).

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: dlcogswe@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Dan Cogswell)
Subject: Radius XGA-2 board
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:37:22 GMT

I talked to a Radius customer support person today and asked him some
questions about their upcoming ISA XGA-2 board.  He's sending me a full info
pack, but these are some things he told me:

 -- Shipping Mid-January
 -- Direct sales only initially because of high demand
 -- First shipment is already spoken for
 -- Price:  $499. Period.  No specials, no retail discounts.
 -- Will busmaster and work with other busmasters
 -- OS/2 2.0 is going to be supported with drivers supplied with the
    card.  
 -- 1024x768x65536 color mode under OS/2 
 -- Has 8-bit DACs (16.7 million colors)

That's about it.  I'm impressed with the specs, but it'd be nice if it
was $150 cheaper.  


-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: DOS window sizing
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 04:21:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.000530.6467@netcom.com> gasman1@netcom.com (David A. Silva) writes:
>I'm going nute trying to figure this one out. If I increase the font size
>of a DOS window so that I can read it, resize the window so there are no
>scroll bars on the window, and font<save>, if I reopen the window it is
>still sized for the older font, and has scroll bars. Is there any way to
>save the window *size* as well as the font used?

This question is answered in the OS/2 Frequently Asked Questions List.
(Hint: hold down SHIFT while dragging the borders.)

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: x27@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (T. Voelkering)
Subject: German Servicepack on sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de
Organization: University of Heidelberg (Germany)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 21:33:44 GMT

Hello there in europe

I have uploaded the german SP on sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de
				 129.206.100.126
The directory is pub/os2/servpack.german

Thomas

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From: pfr@psun2.hmi.de (Fritsch_Wolfgang)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Ethernet card at IRQ=5, possible?
Date: 7 Jan 1993 13:37:01 +0100
Organization: Hahn-Meitner-Institut Berlin
NNTP-Posting-Host: psun2.hmi.de

Until recently, I have used interrupt IRQ=10 for my Elite16 Ethernet card
without any problems, i.e. NCSA Telnet ran great. Now I reconfigured to
IRQ=5, i.e. both the crad and the Telnet configuration file. Now when
starting Telnet it would hang.

Is IRQ=5 the problem? I remember having noticed some communication about
problems with COM3 on this interrupt.

Wolfgang Fritsch
pfr@psun2.hmi.de
From: volker@volki.toppoint.de (Volker Heiss)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Problem with old ST1239 drive
Distribution: world
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 14:14:39 GMT
Organization: private point

I've two Seagate ST1239 AT bus drives, one old modell with 14 jumpers
and a new one. When i try to install OS/2 2.0 GA onto the old drive,
installation aborts at disk 1 with a trap 0d.

The new ST1239 accepts OS/2 without problems. But when i add the old
ST1239 to the system (both drives correctly setup as master and slave),
the bootup process aborts with the infamous 'Call your representitive'
screen and a trap 0d as soon as it peeks at the second drive! Very
strange. With a WD Piranhia as an AT bus slave i have no problems. I
tried different bus speeds, I/O waitstates, cache on, cach off, but
otherwise then booting slower or faster, no difference could be
observed.

This took place on a 486-33 with 8 MB RAM, ATI Vantage, with or without
ibm1s506.add patch.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Win games are sloooww
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:33:56 GMT

In article <93006.120520DGRAHAM@HARPERVM.BITNET> <DGRAHAM@HARPERVM.BITNET> writes:
> I noticed that when going into windows to play some games like CHOMP, a
> Pac-Man ripoff, or others that the games play like they are going through
> sludge. I have a Gateway 2000 486 Vesa 33 with 8 Meg of RAM. I set the Windows
> session to be in high resolution which gave me the 1024x768 even though I
> can't run anything in a window. So, is there anyway to speed this up? I was
> not running anything else at the time, so that was not the problem. Should I
> put Windows to low resolution and will that solve it? Is there a way now that
> I have it installed to change it to low res? All help is much appreciated!!
>      Dave Graham

Try upping the IDLE_SENSIVITY and the IDLE_SECONDS values. 
 
Te "nothing else was running" concept is not always appropriate when thinking
of OS/2 multi-tasking. Sometimes, you have to GIVE the app more "juice" by
adjusting the settings. 
 
OS/2 knows how fast IT wants to run programs....but doesn't always know how
fast *you* want to run them. :-)
 
Steve

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