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From: "richard hajinlian" <richard.hajinlian@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: debugging son process
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:58:56 EST
Reply-To: "richard hajinlian" <richard.hajinlian@channel1.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

Greetings.

Yes another person looking for some one to help save his skin.

Does anyone know how to debug a process that is running in the
background on an MPE system?

The program I wish to debug (xdb) was started by another process via
"createprocess?" call.  I can step thru the program that calls the
createprocess call but once I step over the call...thats it, I can't
catch the created process for debugging.

I was hoping that I could name a virtual terminal in the create process
call and catch the interupt for that terminal (as I do in CICS) but I
guess xdb must be envoked also...obviously I'm confused here.

Anyhow  .... any guiding light here would be appreciated.

Thanks.
Richard Hajinlian            Billerica, Massachusetts
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already earned my contempt.  He has been given a large
brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would
fully suffice."          -----  Albert Einstein
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From: atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: /etc/hosts and name servers...
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:25:41 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, DC

In article <1992Oct6.164543.847@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> cbergren@shcamux1.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Craig Bergren) writes:
>
>When will HP have an OSF name server?
>Won't the OSF cell/global name server scheme fix these problems?

  Gee, I hope not.  I want a standard INTERNET nameserver just like
everyone else has.  The BSD derived bind is far from great but I
already know how to use it.  Most everything I've seen that was part
of OSF/1 or DCE was pure cruft.

  If you think DCE and OSF/1 are great, you haven't tried to use them
and you've been listening to the sales droids far too much.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: glad@daimi.aau.dk (Michael Glad)
Subject: Adding terminals to a 9000/425e
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 09:08:46 GMT

I've tried to add a PC as an external terminal to an HP9000/425e work
station without much luck. The workstation runs HP-UX 8.0.

I have not managed to create device files acceptable by the kernel.

When I try to add a terminal using SAM, SAM can't figure out a select
code to use for the interface.

Can anyone enlighten me on how to add the terminals?

Thanks in advance,

	Michael Glad (email: glad@daimi.aau.dk)
	Computer Science Department, Aarhus University,
	Aarhus Denmark.

From: buds@hpubvwa.nsr.hp.com (Bud Sloan)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:59:09 GMT
Subject: Re: network backup failures
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Bellevue Sales
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, peter@astol.astro.lu.se (Peter Linde) writes:

>   It seems then that no simple solution exists to our backup  problem.  Do
>   I  have  to  sacrifice   security  by   implementing   a   non-supported
>   modification  of the kernel  (allowing NFS root access), or do I have to
>   spend  thousands of dollars to buy Omniback, just in order to be able to
>   do a decent backup?

Not really.  From the system where the DDS is located, try something like the
following.

# remsh hostname_1 tar cf - . | dd of=/dev/rmt/0mn obs=64k
# remsh hostname_2 tar cf - . | dd of=/dev/rmt/0m obs=64k

Repeat the above for each remote system.  Use the no-rewind device file,
/dev/rmt/0mn, if you want all systems on one tape.  Otherwise, put
each on a separate tape. 

Retrival is just the opposite.  Using mt(1) position tape to the desired
archive and then:

# dd if=/dev/rmt/0m ibs=64k | remsh hostname_1 tar xf - path 

See mt(7) WARNINGS regarding MAXPHYS.  DO NOT make your obs greater than
the smallest MAXPHYS value of any of your systems.  It is 64k for S300/S400
systems and 256k for S700/S800 systems.  I don't know what it is for SUN.



/////////// Standard disclaimer, etc. ///////////////
From: gmh@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Greg Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Disconnecting SCSI cables while system running
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:40:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpfcso.7371376
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

Yes, you will sometimes panic the system, so it is best pactice to shut it
down.  I've demonstrated this to myself at a most annoying time....

Greg.

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From: teg@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (Tim Gurbick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Backup Help required
Summary: use dump
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:51:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.Bw2Mxs.3n5
Followup-To: comp.sys.hp
Organization: The Bank of the Black Monks of St. Herod

In article <1992Oct13.104418.164766@dstos3.dsto.gov.au> gavin@ewd.dsto.gov.au (Gavin Clark) writes:
>Has anynoe written or found a decent backup application to run on a HP730?

This question is seen often enough that a public reply is probably in order.

In short, HP's supplied proprietary schemes are considered unreliable (by ME,
okay?  It's just my personal opinion which influences my choice of what's
used).  We use /etc/dump locally, and there's a remote version called rdump.
One may specify the NONrewinding tape device (/dev/rmt/0mn) to fit multiple
dumps on one tape.  So far, this has worked well.

BUT

The thing to be aware of is that a dump may become corrupted and render the
entire dump unusable (not permenantly).  Because dump runs an initial stage
("pass") which maps-out the directory structure, and then dumps the actual
file contents later (as much as hours later for BIG filesystems), it becomes
possible that the block count is wrong if the directory is removed in between
these times.  This is not unlike a bad inode count in a filesystem.

SO

There's a Purdue-modified version of dump on ftp.cis.ohio-state.edu (with OHS
mods) which ignores these inconsistencies and saves the entire dump from
being corrupted at the expense of a few files being lost.

gaute@stud.cs.uit.no says try pub/util/4.3rdump_for_hpux.tar.Z on ftp.cs.uit.no
for a version which is modified by the HP labs (but apparently unsupported) to
solve some of the speed problems found in the 7.X version (and possibly 8.X).

Please don't write and ask why I feel fbackup/frestore are dubious.  I've got
several old postings somewhere which detail folks' horrific experiences with
these programs, and besides...HP isn't the only player on the block, and dump
IS a standard in the unix world.  I'm not going to be able to restore a
proprietary format tape on my Sun if the right combination of HP stuff dies.

You can use "mt fsf" to skip over multiple dumps on single tape to index-over
to the one you want.  In my experience, restoring a single file takes as long
as doing the entire dump.  Nothing's perfect...
From: bcripe@hpcvusd (Brian E. Cripe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: VUE and file types
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:05:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvusn.1992Oct13.200516.20028
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

> Please...  Tell me I can use my magic file... :)

VUE 3.0 which comes with HP-UX 9.0 supports content-based filetyping.
It doesn't read /etc/magic as there are too many conflicts between
file(1)'s notion of a filetype and VUE's, however similar capabilities
are supported.

As can be expected, the caveat is performance.  It takes a lot longer
to open every file in a directory and read a few bytes from it than it
takes to stat the directory and gets the names of all the files.

	Brian "take all the rope you want, we'll make more" Cripe
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.windows.x
From: e-sink@uiuc.edu (Eric W. Sink)
Subject: Re: Can't find a font
Originator: sink@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: e-sink@uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:25:01 GMT

BTW, with regard to the problem I just posted, about not being
able to find a certain font: I did check, and the font path
is set correctly for access to the font.

Sorry for the double post.

-- 
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1800 Woodfield Drive          |     - Rufio
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From: xm9@sdcc12.ucsd.edu (richard g. adair)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: PC Xwindows, PC NFS to use with HP 700
Summary: NFS and X
Keywords: NFS X
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:15:20 GMT
Organization: Arete Associates, San Diego

In article <92520@netnews.upenn.edu> jensen@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Christopher Jensen) writes:
>I have a small group of PC's (garden variety 486's) that
>I would like to connecect to a HP700.
>Can someone recommend a combination of software for the
>PC's that will aloow me to use Xwindows and NFS on the PC ?

I've had great success with Sun's PC/NFS over the years.  The caveat
that you have to understand, and this is true for all networking on
PC DOS machines, is that you have to get the high memory area and
all interups mapped correctly with himem.  If your machine hangs,
you need to fix this high memory area.

PC/NFS also gets you remote file sharing and printing.  A big
suprise was that network disk access is usually faster than local
DOS disk access (for all those DOSish reasons).  One problem may
be that HP's server is a rev behind (suprise?) the new PC/NFS
release, so you may have trouble here.  Anybody know?

We use Hummingbird's X server software and it works fine.  The
installation is a snap, IF you know some windows internals to edit
the configuration files (again, you'll have to do this whichever way
you go).  We've hit a few problems, mostly the HP is too fast for
the PC and single mouse clicks tend to be interpreted as two.  Nothing
major, however, and the product seems reliable.

Tony Burzio
Arete Associates
San Diego, CA

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: eric@helix.nih.gov (Eric Henry)
Subject: BLAS for PA-RISC
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:25:04 GMT

I just wanted to know if anybody knew of the existence of a BLAS library
(preferably all 3 levels) specifically optimized for this architecture.  I am
setting up some LAPACK routines and would like to use an optimized library
rather than the portable one, if possible.  E-mail or post would be fine.
Thanks.

Eric Henry
eric@helix.nih.gov
From: mark@hpcpbla.bri.hp.com (Mark Simms)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP 9100A calculator?
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:11:04 GMT
Organization: HP Computer Peripherals Bristol, UK

>>	My question is: Are there collectors of old HP equipment out there?
>> How would I go about getting it appraised? Any information would be
>> helpful. 

Try posting in comp.sys.handhelds.  There are a lot of HP calculator
collectors who would be interested in such a beast.  However, most of
them read that notes group.

Mark Simms

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Opinions expressed are my own and are not intended to be an official
statement by Hewlett-Packard Company
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Name:         Mark Simms
Profession:   Software Engineer
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Computer Peripherals Division
Unix-mail:    mark@hpcpbla.bri.hp.com
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.hp:11678 comp.periphs.printers:2967
From: grande@isi.edu (Jim Grande)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Can a LJIIIsi take 2meg SIMMs?
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:17:53 GMT
Reply-To: grande@venera.isi.edu (Jim Grande)
Distribution: world
Organization: USC-Information Sciences Institute

We have quite a few 2meg SIMM cards (part# C2321A for the 700RX xterm) which
looks identical to the 4meg cards that the LJ uses. The part# is C2321A. The
manual says to use SIMM memory in units of 1, 4, or 8 meg. Is this absolute?
Has anyone tried it. It'd be nice to get duplex postscript going (which
requires 4meg).

-Jim
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Jim Grande                                                   grande@isi.edu
Hughes Aircraft Co.
Space & Communications Group                                 El Segundo, CA
From: cionca@siihp1.epfl.ch (Ion Cionca [epfl.sic.sii])
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP/UX Patches
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:14:52 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

In article <1992Oct11.031253.24690@vssi.trw.com>, b_kondalski@vssi.trw.com (Brian J. Kondalski) writes:
|> I just read an articles of being able to ftp to get patches, but not being
|> able to do it anonymously.  I do have HP software support.  How do I go about
|> getting these patches then?  Thanks.
|> -- 
|> Brian J. Kondalski                              b_kondalski@mordor.vssi.trw.com
|> TRW Vehicle Safety Systems Inc                            Voice: (313) 781-7382
|> 4505 West 26 Mile Road
|> Washington, MI  48094

	Ask your HP contact for a 'HPSL' access (HP Support Line):
	on-line session (modem or Internet) with news on HP products
	technical tips, patches, etc.

	The 'patch' menu lets you know about SOME patches available
	and how to get them: kermit or ftp access. 
	If you chose ftp, then you get a user id to connect to one of the
	machines available (depending to your geographical area).
	And if the patch you are looking for is not on board, yell and 
	you'll get it.
	At least this works perfectly for us (Europe?).

	Hope this helps
	
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Subject: Re: Creating an Update tape
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:31:06 GMT
Reply-To: rjn@FC.HP.COM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.3 PL6]

re: "fpkg" now supported and included with HP-UX

Eleanor Pope (epope@bmerh351.bnr.ca) wrote:

> Sounds great!  Will the packages fpackage creates actually be uploadable
> using 'update', and 'netdist'?   or will it use another interface?

It is the same tool we use internally, the resulting media is compatible
with netdist servers.  Tapes and tape images in files can be functionally
identical to those HP makes.  Users employ the same /etc/update command.

The only thing you can't do with fpkg is make a CD-ROM that mimics the HP
CD-ROM structure.  I.e.  you CAN make fpkg/update FILEs on raw or ISO 9660
CD-ROMs that are accessed as:
"From Tape Device to Local System ..."
in /etc/update, but you can't make a CD that is accessed as
"From CD-ROM (directory) to Local System..."

The reason for this is that HP CD-ROMs are post-processed (after fpkg) to
secure and structure the filesets and create the codeword support files.
Due to export regulations and security concerns, these tools will not be
made available.

Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
Bob Niland      Internet: rjn@FC.HP.COM               3404 East Harmony Road
                CompuServe:  71044,2124               Ft Collins CO 80525-9599
From: tomg@hpcvusc (Thomas J. Gilg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: colormap
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:06:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvusn.1992Oct7.170628.17303
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

>> it seems like the hp's (750) colormap has the red and blue
>> swapped.
> 
> 	You most likely have the Red and Blue video cables
> 	swapped between the cpu(video card) and monitor(CRT).

I recall that our _prototype_ CRX display cards had the `R' and `B' labels
reversed on the back panel.   I'd assumed the problem was fixed before
any units were shipped to customers.   If all the cabling seems correct
and the colors are reversed, call HP support.

Oh, one other item to check.   If you are asking for colors out of
/usr/lib/X11/rgb.txt (e.g. "red"), its possible someone scrambled
your rgb database - I've been known to rotate fellow engineers rgb databases
from RGB to GBR so that even swapping cables can't correct the problem
(e.g., they ask for red and get green).  They usually get back at me by
setting up a cron script to randomly change my mouse-acceleration rate
and auto-repeat.

Thomas Gilg
tomg@cv.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: sys_somogyi@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Subject: Re: <<HP memory mgmt...important>>
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:15:49 GMT

>> The response to the problem as given above by Mike Stroyan is very typical
>> of the HP support I have received thus far...pretty much worthless.  If Mike
>> had bothered to read the entire original posting...

Yes, I made the mistake of posting this "uncalled for" series of critical
remarks.  I personally apologize to Mike and thank him for the help he
has provided.  I hate excuses as much as the next guy, BUT I allowed
my frustration with some recent unsuccessful dealings with HP cloud my
judgement.

Dave Somogyi
SSC Lab
somogyi@sscvx1.ssc.gov

Xref: sparky comp.sys.hp:11354 comp.unix.bsd:7007 comp.unix.ultrix:7408 comp.unix.questions:11860
From: nbladt@autelca.ascom.ch (Norbert Bladt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.ultrix,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Remote Printing from HP to BSD systems
Date: 7 Oct 92 07:36:53 GMT
Organization: Ascom Autelca AG, Guemligen, Switzerland

stevej@hpc.mentorg.com (Steve Jumonville) writes:


>System V printing is painful to use if you're not familiar with it.
Yes. I completely agree with this statement.

>I suggest you use the menu driven 'sam' utility (System Admin Manager) to
>set up printing to BSD. When you're in sam, follow the menu tree down through
>peripherals, printers and plotters, to "setting up a remote printer". If you
>have questions, use the "Help" funciton key.
We solved it in a very simple way:
	chown lp /usr/bin/lp
	chmod u+s /usr/bin/lp	(now /usr/bin/lp is running as user "lp" !)
This is necessary because on every *n*x system around there is an user "lp".
(At least, on any *n*x system we have here, HP's, SUN's, Interactive UNIX, etc.)
Now you can write a simple model/interface file which just does a remote shell
on the other system and that's it.
Something like
	cat file | 'rsh BSDhost lp -Pbsd-printer-name'

>By the way, run 'sam' in an 'hpterm' window if you want access to function keys.
I guess, that you could do it with 'sam' on HP's, we never used it on
System V.

Hope this helps,

Norbert.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: mandell@bach.helios.nd.edu (Dan Mandell)
Subject: Seeking Mail filter
Keywords:  mail filter
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Distribution: USA
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 17:20:19 GMT

We are new to HPUX administration issues, and our system administrator is
deluged with relatively unimportant mail messages.  Is there some way of
filtering our messages we don't want to see?

What should we be looking for?  


Dan Mandell (mandell@bach.helios.nd.edu)
Saint Mary's College, Computer Services 
Notre Dame, Indiana 46556  -  Phone: (219) 284-4610



Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: alex@opal.idbsu.edu (Alex Feldman)
Subject: Re: HPUX 9.0 LaserRom
Organization: Boise State University Math Dept.
Distribution: na
Date: 15 Oct 92 07:27:25

>>>>> On Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:45:13 GMT, blh@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Bill Hassell) said:

Bill> One of the best features in 9.0 is a brand new user interface for SAM.

Some people, they just don't learn...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.periphs.printers
From: bosch@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Gerhard Bosch)
Subject: Re: Can a LJIIIsi take 2meg SIMMs?
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 07:29:02 GMT

In article <22637@venera.isi.edu>, grande@isi.edu (Jim Grande) writes:
|> We have quite a few 2meg SIMM cards (part# C2321A for the 700RX xterm) which
|> looks identical to the 4meg cards that the LJ uses. The part# is C2321A. The
|> manual says to use SIMM memory in units of 1, 4, or 8 meg. Is this absolute?
|> Has anyone tried it. It'd be nice to get duplex postscript going (which
|> requires 4meg).
|> 
|> -Jim
|> -- 
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|> Jim Grande                                                   grande@isi.edu
|> Hughes Aircraft Co.
|> Space & Communications Group                                 El Segundo, CA

I'm interested on how many people are out there, which bought these 700RX with
2meg add-on. I released that this configuration gets already problems using
HP-VUE with only one graphic display f.e. from gnuplot. ( Up till now I haven't 
increased the memory of the X-terminals, but HP-support told me that this is
the reason). I don't understand the sales people of HP which still offer such
configurations. We got our first HP Series 9000 4 weeks ago and I'm already
very disappointed about HP. Are there more people out there which bought such
a configuration. Using these memory boards is only possible, if you add on
2 additional meg, getting a total of 6 megs. Once again I was told that this
configuration is still too small. So the only choice is to use these SIMMS
for a PC or put them into a drawer. 

====================================================
I'm glad that I got such a good support from HP !!!!
====================================================
From: atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Ran Atkinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: traceroute(8) wanted for HP-UX
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:52:04 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, DC


  I really need a version of traceroute(8) ported to HP-UX 8.0 such
that it will compile and run on my HP 700.

  The freely distributable traceroute.c source can't be directly
ported to HP-UX because it requires a small kernel mod even on BSD
systems.  Making such a kernel mod is nigh well impossible for most
folks that lack HP kernel source (i.e. most of us customers).

  I'd really like to see a traceroute made available via InterWorks or
some other mechanism.  There isn't anything similar for anonymous ftp
on iworks.ecn.uiowa.edu, I just checked.  Surely someone inside HP has
already done this and if so, maybe they could let it go to the
InterWorks distribution channel.

  Alternately if someone else has sources to an equivalent program
for IP route tracing, please post or drop me an email or something.

Thanks,

  Ran
  atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil
From: mikes@genasys.co.uk (Michael Sheppard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Audio player for CD-ROM drive
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:07:45 GMT
Organization: Genasys

Hi there,

I have just got a nice new CD-ROM drive for my HP9000/730 and would like to
listen to Audio CD's on it, when it isn't being used for other things ;-).
So far I have managed to find players for Sun and DEC machines but alas none
for the HP :-(. If anyone knows of somewhere I can ftp such a program I
would be grateful.

Thanks,
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  //// | System Administrator  Voice  : +44.(0)61.232.9444
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.mac.misc