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From: crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Referendum on Jayhawk Postings
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:28:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov9.172833.25711
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

I have no problem with "Kansas Mary" posting articles about the Jayhawks
for the benfit of Kansas fans, but I do have a couple of small complaints
about the way she has been doing it.

(1) The articles appear to have been transcribed directly from newspaper
    accounts.  Such transcriptions are a violation of copyright law if
    this is done without permission.  I doubt that many people would
    complain if this is done occaisionally, but she appears to do this
    on a regular basis, something her local newspaper may not care to
    have done without being paid for.

(2) The nature of her posts seems to be better suited for a mailing list
    than for r.s.b.c, IMO.  I am not familiar with the charter of this
    newsgroup, but it seems to me to be a forum for both discussion and
    reporting about news of interest.  Her postings rarely generate much
    response, since they are informative in intent rather than a attempt
    to discuss issues.  To my mind, that is exactly what mailing lists
    are really good for--a one way listing of information about the team(s).

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From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Arizona news
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:49:25 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <6616@news.duke.edu>, trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:
> That would be Roshown McLeod, a 6-8.5 wing from St. Anthony's in Jersey City,
> NJ.  This is the same school that produced Bobby & Danny Hurley, Jerry Walker,
> Terry Dehere and Rodrick Rhodes, amongst others.  I have heard him described
> as agile, but that's all I know about him.  Arizona beat out Wake and Maryland
> for his commitment.  And Scot Pollard just committed to Kansas, so that's one
> less for Arizona.

 Yup - that surprised a number of people - they felt Arizona had him locked.
Kansas had already recruited big men and looked very strong whereas Arizona
cleasrly had room for a true center who could play for next season
with Stokes leaving.

 Arizona has now filled their two slots but there is talk of trying to
get a commitment from a third player hoping that the 13 man limit
will be over-turned at the NCAA meeting later this season. 


			gln
From: rws@duke.cs.duke.edu (Ronnie W. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: UCLA Scandal
Keywords: Robots on the Net?
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:46:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: stego.720982014
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

The following comment was made by Scott Turner on the AI newsgroup.

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UCLA has an active Artificial Life community.

					-- Scott T.

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The secret is now out on Matthew, Trent, Scott and the other UCLA posters.
They're no more human than GaRy.  Maybe this is true of all the left
Coast posters.  Gidi, Roy, say it ain't so?  

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From: acbonin@unix.amherst.edu (Adam Bonin)
Subject: Re: UMass or UMASS!
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:39:01 GMT

Deborah D (dd76@umail.umd.edu) wrote:
: Well then, how do you pronounce Amherst?
: 

Am-erst, the 'h' being silent.  Why?  Just because.

From that other basketball powerhouse (Div 3) in town...

-adam
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 it is really cooperating with it."
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From: sjc@cs.purdue.edu (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Are the Dookies chicken?
Date: 12 Nov 1992 08:05:42 -0500
Organization: Department of Computer Sciences, Purdue University
Distribution: usa
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In-reply-to: arminius@soc11.acpub.duke.edu's message of 12 Nov 92 05:33:40 GMT

}} In article <6947@news.duke.edu> arminius@soc11.acpub.duke.edu (Ian Carter) writes:
}} 
}}   I was not aware of that perverse PAC-10 rule, which explains much. However, I
}} can say that the refs at the game in Cameron were not ACC refs--> I don't know
}} who they were, but remember the buzz of "who the hell are these refs?" at the
}} game.

That would make them Big-10 refs.  We wonder the same thing every time
we're at a Big-10 game.

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
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                     practically nil..."  -- John DeArmond
From: on@husc10.harvard.edu (Ahmad On)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: NBA draft list.
Date: 8 Nov 92 02:58:29 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

Could some kind soul out here who has a list of this year's NBA draft
please mail it to me?  Just the first and/or second round would be fine.

Thanks in advance,

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From: krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Are the Dookies chicken?
Keywords: Dook,UA
Date: 4 Nov 92 04:06:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson AZ

In article <6639@news.duke.edu> rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA) writes:
>In article <1992Nov2.220057.444@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> burgin@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Robert Burgin) writes:
>>	I believe that Duke dropped Arizona because Lute didn't
>>	want to play in Cameron.  After all, previous games had
>>	been at a neutral site and at Arizona.  At least UCLA
>>	is willing to play home and home.
>>
>>	Besides, if Arizona really wants to play Duke, all they
>>	have to do is find their way into the Final Four.
>>
>>	--rb
>
>Actually, Arizona did play in Cameron once, a few years ago.  It was the
>1990 season, I do believe.  I remember that at half time, as the teams
>went back to the locker rooms, Coach K was so furious at one of the refs
>that I actually thought he was going to physically mangle the guy.  The
>ref gave K a technical and then the Devils came out in the second half
>and pounded the Mildcats.
>
>It was terribly exciting -- that was definitly the most PO'd  I've ever
>seen Coach K, and I've been to almost every home game since he took over
>in '80-'81.  Even more ticked off than the time Deano gave his team an
>extra twenty points by pounding his fist on the scorer's table and
>didn't get a T.
>
>- Rob Mac K

Thank you Rob, for making my point.  The three recent Duke/UA games were 
the most exciting games I have ever watched.  It'd be nice if the series 
was resumed.

Ted

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Michael Dukakis was voted best governor by his peers -1986
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: All-time Duke team poll: Results
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:28:28 GMT

jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:


>	Well, I have received and counted all votes (there were 8 responses
>	and here is the All-time Duke team, as determined by netters:
>	(1st team votes listed in parantheses)

>	G -- Danny Hurley -- 16(8) -- unanaminous choice
	     ^^^^^^^^^^^^

	Yeah, yeah I know... correction -- this is supposed to be Bobby
	Hurley, not his little brother Danny who plays for Seton Hall.
	School must really be stressing me out, huh?  :)

	Sorry about the confusion and thanx to all who pointed this out.

	Jazzy J

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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Worst ACC Refs:  You damn rooks - by Curtis Hill
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:34:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.181028.26436@u.washington.edu> crs@stein.u.washington.edu  
(Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
> > I had to confess that the
> >guys in funny shirts have about as much effect on the game as a post.
> 
> Whose post?  Dr. J?  Orin Day?  Robert Clough?  Goober?  Me?  

You forget that my posts rock the world.  Watch for my upcoming
series in which I renounce Duke Basketball and discover the true
rainbow at the end of the tunnel.

> >So, unless the ref has actually pulled out a .45 to shoot your team 
> >down in some kind of vengeful, gambling-debt driven frenzy, he has
> >had almost zero effect on the outcome. If you're watching the refs,
> >you're missing the game.
> 
> Agreed.  Although it would be fun to watch a ref chasing Bobby Hurley with
> a gun.  :-)

And in Durham it could happen.  But more likely for brother Danny.

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From: as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Louisville drafts Jason Osbourne
Date: 11 Nov 1992 04:44:50 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Louisville's #1 draft pick was announced tonight, Jason Osbourne.  He will
stay home and play for his home team.  Jason is on some of the top 100-college
freshmen polls.  It's hard to believe
Crum can get these gems, after the humiliating season two years ago, but I
guess old College Basketball powerhouses must rebound eventually.  Assuming
Jason passes his tests (Always a question mark with Louisville recruits), he
will have the pleasure of playing on the same team with Dwayne Morton, who
will be coming off a Final 4 appearance/MVP award and getting ready to be
drafted #1 by the NBA (But, I don't want to spoil the coming season too much
for you).

Mike
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From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: WANTED: Recruiting class rankings
Date: 13 Nov 1992 16:18:12 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <1992Nov13.053225.3186@serval.net.wsu.edu> jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer) writes:
>Does anyone have the rankings of this years
>recruiting classes, or know where I can get them?
>
   Hey, ditto for me.

   --salty
From: jwsteph@eng.clemson.edu
Subject: IU Basketball - TICKETS 
Reply-To: jwsteph@eng.clemson.edu	
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:26:46 GMT

Help!! I will be in Indiana for the Christmas holiday and was wondering if anyone 
could help me find tickets.  Any seats for any of the following games would be great.

DEC. 19 Cincinnati
DEC. 23 St. John's, or
DEC. 27-28 Hoosier Classic

THANKs,

JOHN

Organization: Masters student, Industrial Administration, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:09:38 -0500 
From: Thomas Swann <ts3m+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: FAB FIVE is back in Ann Arbor

I thought Chris Webber was on academic probation or something like that.
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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: ACC Play-In and Pac-10 Tourney Jab
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:43:01 GMT

In article <XJAM.92Nov4161334@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU> xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU  
(The Crossjammer) writes:

> >>>>> "Orin" == Orin Day <oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov> writes:
>   Orin> No, only the agony of the ACC #8 vs. #9 play-in game...
> 
> I'm sorry but when I was a youngsta' in Maryland we would cut class to see
> those first round ACC games.

Unless you were a youngster last spring and had night school, impossible.
I'm referring to the new Thursday night "0th" round game.  I've cut class the  
last three years to be there for Friday's games (and this year, it will be  
work, I guess...).

> Meanwhile, the !!PAC-10!! actually managed to make the championship game
> quite boring. 

No argument there (not that I was watching).

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From: arminius@soc2.acpub.duke.edu (Ian Carter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: All-time teams
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:18:09 GMT
Reply-To: arminius@soc2.acpub.duke.edu (Ian Carter)


In article <Bx7IpE.1BG@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
| 
|> 	Here's a good question to ponder -- who would U put as the starting
|> 	five on an all-time Duke team?  In my opinion, I'd definitely have
|> 	Christian Laettner, Johnny Dawkins, and Danny Ferry.  Perhaps I'd
|> 	also throw in Jeff Mullins -- but I don't know too much about the
|> 	players before the mid-70's or so.  Any comments?
|> 
|> 	Jazzy J
|> 
|  Hurley at the point, without a doubt. As for the small forward, is it too
early to say Grant Hill? He still hasn't broken the 20 pts a game mark.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: hajel@engin.umich.edu (john hajel)
Subject: Re: Who is the worst ref?
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 10:04:52 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <6769@news.duke.edu> arminius@soc9.acpub.duke.edu (Ian Carter) writes:
>
>  In light of the interest in all-time great Duke and Kentucky teams, how
>about this thread: 
>
>	What is the worst officiating crew possible to assemble. I put Lenny
>Wurtz as the ref.


I vote for the retired Jim Bain of the Big Ten.

JMH
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: kellyb@ccsua.ctstateu.edu
Subject: <None>
Summary: Uconn news
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:07:00 GMT

      It's my guess that because of the lack of an experienced center,
      Uconn will use a heavy rotation to find a way to make up for it.
      Deffinite starters will be Scott Burrell playing the off gaurd,
      Donyell Marshall in his usual spot as a forward and look for Toriano 
      Walker at center.The shooting gaurd should be Brian Fair and the 
      point gaurd position will have either Kevin Ollie or Covington Cormier
      starting.The one thing Uconn has going is depth, if they find a way to
      make it work,look out Big East.Scott Burrell is going to be the leader
      of the team but with cronic tendonitis in his knees,look for last years
      red-shirt Rudy Johnson to take his place.If new comer, Travis Knight 
      plays well,Uconn will have there own twin towers,with Knight at 7' and
      Marshall playing like a seven footer(who else sprains their elbow on the 
      rim).Coach Calhoun has got to find a way to make up for the points of
      Chris Smith and the rebounding of Rod Sellers.If Burrell misses games,
      the team could have trouble as he and Walker are the only seniors,Olliver
      Maklin doesn't count cause the only time i've seen him play is when they
      up by 40 points.The rest of them are last years freshman and three new 
      ones (Cormier is a transfer) but don't forget that this is supposed to be
      their greatest recruting class ever.

                                                       
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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Worst ACC Refs:  You damn rooks - by Curtis Hill
Followup-To: alt.licker.store
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:46:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.191638.15723@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>  
oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (I write on behalf of Curtis Hill):
> 
> Note: This item is posted on behalf of Curtis Hill, who is currently
> 	without the ability to post.

> Paparo tends to try to be too much of the show, but he's good at keeping
> a running dialog with the players.  And he called technicals on Laettner.
> (FYI, if Laettner was in the ACC this year, he'd probably rack up 2 T's
> per game with his mouth.  It's a new point of emphasis this year.)

To say nothing of "hand on neck" Laettner gestures.

> John Moreau - makes Wirtz look like Joe Forte.

The Mysterious Island of the Evil Dr. Moreau...

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From: aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman)
Subject: Re: Back for more - Stanford is No. 1
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:20:12 GMT

rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA) writes:

>Aaaaaaahhhhhhh!!  It's another one of those women's basketball posts
>that don't say so in the header!!  Aaaaarrrrrggghhhh!!!

>I knew it all along, of course....

>- Rob Mac K

The comment "Stanford is No. 1" should have tipped you off. :-)

Besides -- women's hoops are good for you.  :-)

Adam Elman
aelman@cs.stanford.edu
From: 00bjgood@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Indiana-Steve Hart
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:13:20 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

What happened to Steve Hart? He was from one of the schools in Terre Haute.
I had originaly heard he commited to IU, but I haven't heard anything about him
and he's not on any IU rosters. 
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From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: All-time teams
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:54:47 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

In article <XJAM.92Nov4161122@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU> xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer) writes:
>>>>>> "Brian" == Brian E. Saunders <saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu> writes:
>
>  Brian> In article <Bx7IpE.1BG@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>>
>>
>>	Here's a good question to ponder -- who would U put as the starting
>>	five on an all-time Duke team?  In my opinion, I'd definitely have
>>	Christian Laettner, Johnny Dawkins, and Danny Ferry.  Perhaps I'd
>>	also throw in Jeff Mullins -- but I don't know too much about the
>>	players before the mid-70's or so.  Any comments?
>
>Two words:
>Gene Banks

	Gene Banks was very, very good, but Duke has had a lot of very good
forwards.  You would have to squeeze him in there with Grant Hill, Laettner,
Ferry, Mullins, Heyman, and Mark Alarie.  He was probably better than some
of those folks, but I don't think he was better than all but one of them.

	Some might argue that Laettner (and possibly Ferry) should be in the
center spot, but I think that would be reserved for Mike Gminski.

>xjam@cork.Berkeley.EDU  	Fiiiive Thousand Boomin Watts...... -The JBeez
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From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: Worst ACC Refs:  You damn rooks - by Curtis Hill
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:20:31 GMT
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael

Orin Day writes:
>Andrew Markham writes:
>
>> The 'amoeba' is always close together chasing the ball, but never
>> in a tight group (with some of the kids losing sight of the ball
>> and guessing wrong, etc)...
>> 
>> True entertainment!
>
>Don't forget the little kiddies kicking each other, too!  That's
>what I remember about junior soccer - getting kicked a lot.  Made
>me feel like Timberlake.
>
In one of our games, one of the kids from the other team was getting
away with murder and there was talk among my kids on the sideline
about just popping the miscreant one. So, I went down the line to
the opposing coach to let him know that little Attila was about
to get a mouthful of bloody chiclets if he didn't let up. He hemmed
and hawed and said he had never seen anything untoward from 
Attila who, as we were speaking, was kicking one of my fallen players
in the groin. Well, it was news to him, he said. 

We didn't rally to only lose by a single goal in overtime. We got
stomped. Sometimes the race is not to the swift.
-- 
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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Where's Grant Hill?
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:51:36 GMT

In article <6992@news.duke.edu> trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:
> In article <8f0l0Hy00iUz08bJ4y@andrew.cmu.edu>, mc83+@andrew.cmu.edu (Myung  
Joon Choi) writes:

> >  Sure Ferry went to three final fours, but he was a key contributor for
> > only his senior season. 
> 
> This is incorrect.  Ferry was ACC POY his junior and senior season.  He was
> also one of the leading scorers on the team as a sophomore.  He also started
> several games as a freshman.

Not just several, as I've been previously corrected here.  More like 15-20 
starts in that 37-3 season.  

> I've watched these tapes (believe me!).  G was terrific in the Michigan game.
> But in his two years, he has not yet been aggressive enough, all the time.
> Part of this was in deference to the upperclassmen, but the next two years
> will be the true test of his greatness.

Exactly.  Did people judge Bush on the first two years of his administration,
or the last two?

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