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Subject:      Let's Sharrock this house tonight

   First Gary sez:

>OK, that's it. My next CD is going to be a Sharrock. Almost everyone has
>mentioned him as one of their favorites. I gotta find out what this guy
>sounds
>like.
>
>Black Jacques Sharrock: what album do you recommend to someone with a
heavy
>metal/hard rock background and likes new age music more and more each day?

   Then Sonia repliez:

>As a new Sharrockite I have no business giving advice, but after hearing a
>wonderful sampler assembled by the resident <cmv> and after asking HIS
advice,
>I just bought Faith Moves and I think you'd really like it.  We played it
for a
>friend who's not especially into jazz and he liked it so much HE went and
>bought it.  Of course you should get a second opinion.

  And David offers one, to wit:

>Based on what I know about your tastes, and based on what I've heard on
the
>"CMV Sharrock Sampler", I'd recommend _Seize The Rainbow_ or _Live In New
>York_ by the Sonny Sharrock Band.


   All excellent suggestions.  You have learned your lessons well,
grasshoppers.  ;*)  Knowing Gary's fondness for metal, I'd probably go first
with _Seize The Rainbow_.  But, seeing as how he also gets into new age,
_Faith Moves_ wouldn't be a bad choice either.  Odds are, if you buy one of
them, you eventually want more anyway.  So why not start with _S.T.R._, and
buy _F.M._ second.

   _S.T.R._ is very rock oriented (including my favorite recent "metal"
song -- "Dick Dogs"), and hits hard.  _Faith Moves_ is more pensive -- some
blues, some Eastern-sounding stuff, a hint of rock, some is just
indescribable.  If you must apply a label to it, I would say it's kind of a
twisted "new age/world music".

   BTW, I liked David's mention of Sharrock's playing on "Memphis
Underground".  That's a fine example of one man's presence turning a lame
tune into something worth hearing.


      bye,
      cmv ("chuckrateeze -- who's posted *three* times today ... geez!")
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:29:00 CDT
From:         S_YECK@TWU.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Independent/Alternative Music Reviews

For Henry--

Sorry I got your name wrong earlier.  As for the _KEATS_ information, Riley and
I will continue to look for it.  We need at least one week to determine if it
is anywhere here or not.  We'll check with Phantom too and see!

I'll let you know what happens.  Hopefully, we'll find it.  We once looked for
an album called "Desert Moon" (I forgot who the artist was), but we could never
find it for a friend!!  Guess that's part of life, eh?

Hey!--THANKS for actually calling!!!  You are the second customer we've had
since last Wednesday!!!!!!

toodles,
 _
Meshel
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From:         "It's not what you know,
              it's what you think you know..." <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      blessed are the cheesemakers

Sonia sed:

>I saw "The Bodhran Video" last night while waiting for my guitar lesson: by
>Steafan Hannigan (you'd like him, he's cute) - produced by Ossian in Cork,
>Ireland...

Yabut how big is the tilt in his kilt??  ;)   This video sounds great!  I'm
travelling to Chicago and Boston this fall, so I hope to find a bodhran in
either place.  How much is this video and is it readily available for purchase
by you?  I may have to get you to pick one up for me...


Michael sed:

>The coffee hasn't really taken effect yet, so I can't remember much, but
>here's a few that come to mind:

.... then he rips off at least half a dozen solos...

Ummm... Michael, we can't wait till the caffeine hits your blood stream, I
think...  ;)

>Richard Thompson on "Calvary Cross," _I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight_
>   Sounds just like a bagpipe. There are zillions of great RT solos, but this
>   one was a very early favorite.

And Dave sed:

>I like the whole song, but especially the solo, for "Shoot out the
>  lights" by Richard Thompson.

Ooooo yes... both awesome suggestions.  Richard has so many good ones to choose
from, but I'd say that my favorite has got to be his live solo acoustic solo in
his perfomance of "Valerie" at the Winnipeg Folk Fest.  You could hear the
echoing of a collective gasp in the night air after he finished playing it...
quite wonderful.  My mother said, "Jesus, it's incredible the way he can play
like there is more than one guitarist up there".  I also think Richard is the
King of the slow meaningful guitar solo.  I adore the guitar solo from "Night
Comes In" where he plays with the hammered dulcimer in the background.  No
flying fingers here, but the notes he chooses and the sounds emitted are so
damn appropriate for the mood he is trying to create... it gives me the
shivers.

Dat French guy said

>Bonjour!
>
>This is my first contribution to ALLMUSIC. My name is Francois.
>I'm from the constitutionnal controversy of the north of north
>america (Quebec, Canada)

Hey cool!  Say... are you jewish and a lumberjack by any chance?  ;*)

Welcome Francois, from a canookie who's west of the constitutional
controversy...

David sed:

>I'll also say that I like most of Madonna's songs, especially from her first
>album before she got mega-famous.


Hey speaking of Madonna, did any of you Larsen-heads catch yesterday's Farside
comic??  It had the caption that went something like, "Other members of the
lifeboat look in horror as Madonna loses her balance and falls face first". The
picture showed a dingy with various characters seated looking down at two rather
large holes created by a sharp-pointed bustier' worn by the cartooned Madonna...
I nearly peed...

- Carol
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: need train song recommendations
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:58:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.081901.1295@guvax.georgetown.edu> mchenry@guvax.georgetown.edu writes:
>Friends:
>
>I want to make a compilation tape of songs about the railroad or trains or 
>closely related subjects for my 8-year-old nephew. I would like any 
>suggestions. If you think the song suggested has adult themes (such as 
>Springsteen's Downbound Train), then please indicate this. If there is 
>interest I will post the resulting list. Please mail directly to:
>
>mchenry@guvax.georgetown.edu

Track 360, by Duke Ellington.
The band makes all sorts of train noises.

It is brilliant.

Jeff
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From:         Steve Rife <STEV@MCO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Forever Autumn

     Just a note to the last poster on War of the Worlds.  I have this
on CD and Forever Autum is listed as being done by the Moody Blues on
the liner notes.
     Also to note is that Justin Hayward only sings on the Forever Autum
track, the liner notes tell who is doing the others.

     If you purchase this thinking it is a Justin Hayward solo you will
be disappointed as he only sings on Forever Autum, and it is a double CD
set.
     Why this was never included on a Hayward or Moody Blues effort is beyond
me - it's a great tune.

     To the original poster:  if you want to supply me with a tape I will
gladly tape it for you.


Steve Rife
(STEV@MCO)
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From:         Sebastian Welton <SWELTON@ESOC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Covers and other trivia

>There's a more recent "My White Bicycle" cover, by that faux hippie clown who
>calls himself "Neil." I don't remember enough about the album, I only got to
>hear it once, but it's also got covers of Traffic's "Hole in my Shoe" (one of
>Dave Mason's tunes, not Stevie Winwood's) and Caravan's "Golf Girl" (hooray!).
>Dave Stewart worked on the record, and I wonder whether the Caravan tune was
>his idea; he bristles at being called a Canterbury player, but he really was
>Mike Ratledge's best disciple ever... this is (obviously?) the keyboardist
>Dave Stewart, not the Eurythmic.

Otherwise known as Nigel Planer the actor from the Young Ones (a'la The Comic
Strip bunch of alternative comedians).

Well, no more from me as I'm off to England, Amsterdam and Berlin for a couple
of weeks. Have a nice time.

Tschuess

Seb
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From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Quicksilver Messenger Service

On Fri, 4 Sep 1992 11:46:00 EST <MCINTYRE@MSUPA> said:
>
>Well, my viewpoint is the compilation has just about everything I would
>want from the Dino Valente era.  Those albums tended to have *one* song
>I would really like and the rest of the album would be filler.  So getting
>the compilation seems better than picking up the individual albums (if
>they ever do come out on CD) and programming just the hits.  I do wish
>the compilation had "Peace By Piece" from the Gary Duncan "keep the name
>alive" album.
>
>Besides... I already have _Happy Trails_ on CD. 8-)

Hmmm.  The only 2 I would want would be the black 'un with "Pride of Man",
and =Happy Trails=.  I had always thought HT was their second one, and
am not interested in any after that.
>
>While I understand and appreciate your objection to edited versions,
>isn't the _Happy Trails_ "Who Do You Love" a collection of edits already,
>with different sections pulled from different concerts?
>
Wasn't aware of it at the time, am surprised to find it out now.  My memory
of WDYL doesn't flag any of the sections as being anything other than
continuous/contiguous cuts--but I don't suppose I listened as hard then as I
might now (or is it that I'm harder of hearing now? (-:  ).  At any rate, I
want the Whole Thing and Nothing But the Whole Thing!
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From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      moods
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   Speaking of Moody Blues, in honor of my copping the lick from Tuesday
Afternoon from a TV interview with Justin Hayward, my band did our own
version of it:  Tuesday Afternoon -> Story in Your Eyes -> For Your
Love (Yardbirds) -> Twilight Zone (by the Ventures) -> Reflections of
a Mind (Tuesday's second part).  All in the space (!) of a couple of
minutes.  What fun!

Russ
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From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      I'm a patriot and that's ok
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  Speaking of ol' Ted Nugent, I just happened to catch the Nuge on empTV
recently, with that band, what, Band of Yankees or something.  Made me
wanna gag.  Actually, it was so bad I was forced into gazing at the
spectacle much longer than was really safe.  Some song about "Don't Tread
on Me", chock full of jingoistic right-wing nationaliam.  Their stage
was draped with giant US flags on either side.  Of course, their much
practiced arena rock stage antics were equally as disgusting.  Rumor has it
that the white supremicists holed up in Idaho are playing this song as high
volume at the FBI agents surrounding the house, trying to drive them away,
sort of a reverse-Noriega.  It might work.

Russ
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From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Nugent/Patriotism

On Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:54:34 EDT Walter Keller said:
>
>And Leonard - shame on you to mention Jimi in the same sentence - when he
>played the star-battered bangle he was reflecting the pain - both his and
>of the war sufferers at the time, and indeed of any time - because of the
>type of gruesome things people do to people under the aegis of patriotism.
>Yes, he said on the Dick Cavett show that he thought it was beautiful, and
>I'm sure that he did love his homeland - as it SHOULD be. A precursor to
>Machine Gun. All of this imho.

Have you ever heard Hendrix live in the west when he introduces the banner
he say's something about being patriotic and then says and i quote:
"i'd like for you to stand for this song and if you don't F**k you" I
believ he meant it. Listen people country bashing is just not popular
anymore you are all behind the times
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 09:12:18 CDT
From:         "Renato Barahona" <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      ALLMUSIC confessional: secret loves and hidden desires

This list is fairly dull --except for Steak Queen's offerings-- so let's try so
mething else. Listen up all you in Musicland -- you won't find it on a map; it'
s a state of mind: Do you have hidden tastes that you don't own up because you'
re afraid that they'll be considered schlocky, schmaltzy, corny, campy, or down
right unhip? Do you swoon to the Tijuana Brass, get inspired by the Chipmunks,
love "Lite FM" stations, want to get parallel with your partners to the sounds
of Mantonvani, or adore cheesy lounge acts? Well, the time's come to unburden y
ourself directly into the ALLMUSIC confessional.

Truth impels to confess a passion for film sountracks of the 50s/60s, especiall
y those of North, Goldsmith, Bernstein, Herrmann and Morricone.  OK, let's hear
 from everyone, now, whatayasay?

Renato
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From: john@spss.com (John Przyborowski)
Subject: Re: Guitar Solos
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:36:58 GMT

"Cinnamon Girl" Neil Young--something about that one note, over and over

"September Gurls" Big Star---Alex Chilton drones, pleads and shimmers

"Happy" Rolling Stones--Keith as Chuck Berry

"Easy Rider" Jimi Hendix--the whole song is a solo

"Marquee Moon" Television--Tom Verlaine never does what you expect, ever

john
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From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: confessions/guitar solos
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              Koester" at Sep 3, 92 8:16 am

Schlocko Confession (ooh this is embarrassing)

Roger Miller - Dang Me
Johnny Mathis - Misty

(there must be more, I'll keep searching my heart)

LET'S HEAR MORE OF THESE CONFESSIONS - INCLUDING MHB, CHUCKATREZE, RICK, AND
OTHER HIGH-CLASS NETTERS!!!

To neutralize my confession, here are my favorite guitar solos:

any LIVE Rory Gallagher
any LIVE Buddy Guy
Hendrix period
Hard School - Sonny Sharrock
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From:         David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: To Sharrock or not To Sharrock

On Thu, 3 Sep 1992 11:55:00 EST Gary M said:
>
>Black Jacques Sharrock: what album do you recommend to someone with a heavy
>metal/hard rock background and likes new age music more and more each day?
>

Based on what I know about your tastes, and based on what I've heard on the
"CMV Sharrock Sampler", I'd recommend _Seize The Rainbow_ or _Live In New
York_ by the Sonny Sharrock Band.

David
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Friday follies
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:17:42 GMT

In article <ALLMUSIC%92090412532795@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> This space intentionally left blank <CV01@SWTEXAS.BITNET> writes:
>   Another excellent point.  That's pretty much the approach I've used for
>getting into some of the stuff we lovingly call "Beer Jazz" around here.
>Rather than trying to pigeonhole the music, or questioning what the f*ck is
>going on, let the music speak for you.  It's kind of similar to some of the
>concepts in that book _The Inner Game of Music_ -- it involves turning off
>the little internal voice that gets in the way of just experiencing music.

certainly, & especially with the open ended improvisational music.  if you 
isolate on just what you think is the soloist, it may not make sense,  but then
when you hear all voices without focusing too much on one, you start to
hear the interaction, and that's where the form is.  Once you cop this,
you will be surprised at how easy it is to hear the far out music.
You will wonder why you never heard it before, and why most people want
to take the dog for a walk when you put it on.

>>6.    James Blood Ulmer:  No Wave (out of print Moers album)
>>      The 1st album with Music Revelation Ensemble,  it is some
>>      harmolodic funk a la Ornette Coleman.  The time swirls in a
>>      hundred directions at once, but it is still funky.  Blood
>>      has 100 different articulations, much like Monk had, and
>>      like Clifford Brown.
>
>   This is out of print?  I bought it about a year ago, and it was still
>sealed.  It was distributed by North Country (Cadence).  Here we disagree
>completely.  I have heard Ulmer that I love (_Live At The Caravan Of Dreams_
>and parts of _The Tales of Captain Black_), but about half of this recording
>sounds like re-cycled Ornette that's badly in need of another "nervous
>skittering guitar".  :*)

it is maybe, I think they started making them again.  You can get them
from cadence, and there is that other place, wayside?  I got mine on CD.
Actually, I think when I composed that top 10 list, it was years ago.
I only had a warn out cassette dub.  

I hope Street Priest comes out on CD.

As for the Sharrock, I composed the list before the Elvin thing, but
I still think I would leave it here.

>>8.    John Scofield & Bill Frisell:  THRILL SEEKERS, from Bass Desire's
>>      Second Sight.
>>
>>      Scofield is Mr Super-Line, and Frizz is spacey with his splattering
>>      chords.  Great contrast between two guitar styles of today's
>>      jazz.
>
>   I thought about including their version of "Resolution" for the same basic
>reasons.  They present a stark and wonderful contrast.

I saw them live once, and it was the end.  I don't think they will do
that anymore, but I know Sco and Friz have a recent project out.  
It is funny, I think as an average I like the new thing better, but when
Bass Desires hits their peak, they blow the recent thing away.


Jeff
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From:         Stas Philippe <philstas@VUB.AC.BE>
Subject:      Bowie vs. Gabriel

Last evening we were discussion on the simularities between Bowie
and Gabriel. Both made some major contributions to modern rock.
There where Bowie has major influence through his textes (ashes, heroes, rebel),
we came to the conclusion that he did not create new music styles
(except for the fashion-dance), in contrast to gabriel.

Also, how about the political involvement of Bowie?

b.t.w. Is Zappa still alive?

Johor

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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 08:44:00 GMT+1
From:         MBOSKER@UTWENTE.NL
Subject:      The Chameleons, etc....

From:   UTCIVC::VTXOPER      26-AUG-1992 16:29:30.35
To:     UTRCV1::MBOSKER
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Subj:   The Chameleons, etc....

Hello Music "LOVERS",


Have anyone of you heart about the folling groups:

 **********************************************
 *                                            *
 *    The Chameleons (UK)                     *
 *    The Sun And The Moon (Ex-Chameleons)    *
 *    The Reegs (Ex-Cameleons)                *
 *    The Suns of God (Ex-Sun And The Moon)   *
 *                                            *
 *    Sad Lovers And Giands (UK)              *
 *                                            *
 *    24 Gone (CAN)                           *
 *                                            *
 *    The Convent (GER)                       *
 *                                            *
 **********************************************


If there is, we can start a discussion on that !!!!

If there isn't , well that's to bad for you !!!!


                          The Crotcheteer
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 08:57:02 EDT
From:         Gary Hanley <ghanley@DG-WEBO.WEBO.DG.COM>
Subject:      Hiya doin' city slicker???
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	Derek asks...

>Is the other Gary still out there?  I'm still interested in swapping some
>boots.  Sorry, but I lost easy net access over the summer.

	Yep, I'm here, and welcome back partner! How was Texas??
Did ya do any bullridin'? (Not necessarily on a bull either). :)

	I'm still riding out the recession, and doing my best to
kick start the economy, by buying lotsa CDs, boots, a new guitar, and
one condominium, which I closed on yesterday.

	As for the boots, I gots lotsa good stuff, (mostly Yes and
XTC), and have some real rarities on the way which I'll offer you
a partnership in if your interested. Also, I have a few video
boots which you might be interested in. E-Mail me for details.


--
Regards,
    Gary Hanley
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 09:14:10 MDT
From:         Nietzsche is pietzsche <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      RE: Robert Smith quote
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John sed:

>Lifted without permission from the Sept 1992 Guitar Player.
>
>Robert Smith was quoted as saying "I must confess that I don't
>remember making a lot of _Pornography_.  We probably drank and
>took more drugs than we should have - an interesting process,
>but one that would kill me now."
>
>I knew there was a reason _Pornography_ is my favorite Cure album. 8-)

Just what are you admitting to here?  ;)

I think that this puts John in the running for our token net.hippy.freak with
stiff competition (um... pardon the pun) coming from Michael, David and Russ
and maybe Chuck (if they let him out of the library once in a while).

- Carol, "Miss Freelove 1969"
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