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From: ag793@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Thom Gould)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Telnet .. ip vs domain.....
Date: 23 Jan 1993 18:24:07 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ag793@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Thom Gould)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu



We (Lorain County Free Net), are operating a SUN system with the Cleveland
FreePort software on it.

	We recently had a hard drive crash.. in in our efforts
	to bring the system back online.. it seems we are missing
	a file (I think), I can telnet to a  ip address.. however
	I can NOT use the domain address.  IF I use the domain
	address.. it just sits there... and times out.

IF.. anyone can lend some assistance... it would be GREATLY appreciated.

	



Thanks 

:)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: rory@netcom.com (Rory Hinnen)
Subject: Upgrading to SS10/41 - where are the landmines?
Summary: Will be upgrading and would like to hear of pitfalls before I hit 'em
Keywords: ss10/41 scsi scsi-2
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:42:32 GMT

Well, the subject says most of it - I'm soon going to be upgrading a SS2 to
a SS10/41. What are the things I should be looking out for, especially:

* I heard there were occaisional problems using the new fast scsi that's 
built in. Anyone able to confirm or deny this vicious rumour?

* What can I use the built in isdn for, anyway? We don't have internet, yet,
can I use it to get here?

* Any other horror stories, or even better, nice stories, or just stuff you
want to get off your chest, write me. If there is interest, I'll gladly 
post the results.

Thanks for your time!

.rory.

rory@netcom.com
FMCGold, Reno, NV
disclaimer - I'm my own person, thank you very much.
From: mgk1761@sjfc.UUCP (Matthew Kopcienski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Becoming an Ftp site
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:13:40 GMT
Reply-To: mgk1761@sjfc.edu (Matthew Kopcienski)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Saint John Fisher College, Rochester, NY

I want to set up an Ftp site on an IPX running 4.1.2 and I wanted
to see if there were anything special that I should do to make the
system as secure as possible.  Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Also a copy of someone's entries in their passwd file would be wonderful.

Thanks in advance.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.hp
From: dlj@fc.hp.com (patchnos)
Subject: Re: Bringing a Sun to it's knees 
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:46:54 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO
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Followup-To: comp.sys.hp

Steinar Haug (Steinar.Haug@delab.sintef.no) wrote:
: fwp@CC.MsState.Edu (Frank Peters) writes:
: > In article <T6AXBYAV@cc.swarthmore.edu> eoliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu (Erik Oliver) says:
: > : During our Operating Systems class, we were being asked to see for
: > : ourselves that "modern" operating systems place limits on the number of
: > : processes an individual user can run thus preventing over load.
: > 
: > Interesting.  Who came up with that theory?  It isn't true and in many
: > cases it isn't desirable.

	Depends on whether you are asking the system administrator
	or the user :-)  The idea of limiting the maximum number of
	processes a single user can have probably makes sense to 
	most system admins of multi-user systems.  But what about
	workstations, which we typically think of as single-user
	systems (but we know _that's_ not always true)? 

: In my opinion, having a limit of 50 processes per use is *not* a sensible
: default when systems arrive from HP preconfigured with X11R4, VUE etc. What
: we have done on all our HPs is basically the same as is done by default on
: our Suns: Set MAXUPRC to the total number of processes in the system minus a
: reasonable safety margin for the system itself. We've never had any problem
: with this.

	I agree.  On HP-UX, /etc/master shows that the default maxuprc 
	value is 50, the default nproc value is about 256.  IMHO, this 
	is a problem with having one set of defaults (/etc/master) for 
	all PA machines -- 7XX workstations and 8XX servers/multiuser 
	machines.  Your method of setting maxuprc is a good suggestion,
	if your machines typically only have one user.

	I'll pass this note onto the Instant Ignition folks.

: Steinar Haug, system/networks administrator
: SINTEF DELAB, University of Trondheim, NORWAY
: Email: Steinar.Haug@delab.sintef.no, 
: 	sthaug@idt.unit.no, steinar@tosca.er.sintef.no

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From: mchiarin@jade.tufts.edu (Marc Chiarini)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Help on building X11R5 under Solaris 2.1
Date: 25 Jan 93 08:58:53 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

I'm trying to build the core X11 Release 5 distribution on a new Sparc 10
with Solaris 2.1/SunOS 5.1 as I'm told.  I'm just having a hard time of
it especially because I don't really know much about System V.  Has anyone
been successful in building the release under Solaris 2.1?  I would be
grateful if they could indicate what types of changes need to be made to
the configuration files, etc.  Also, I'm using the latest version of gcc.
Thank you.

Marc Chiarini
Tufts University
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Laserwriter <==> IPX via Ethernet???
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:41:38 GMT

KP> == Ken Pearce  <kpearce@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>

 KP> Does the Laserwriter have an Ethernet address?

Yes.

 KP> Is it possible to tell the Suns that address, assign an IP number,

Nope; the LW IIg doesn't know IP from a hole in the ground.

 KP> and somehow get them to talk???

Check out CAP, the Columbia AppleTalk Package.  papif will print quite
nicely to an EtherNetted IIg; I've done it.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: nanook@eskimo.com (Robert Dinse)
Subject: Tape Drive Lock-Up
Keywords: Tape Locks - Help!
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:47:58 GMT


     This question pertains to a Sun 3/280 running Sun/OS 4.1.1_U1 and using
a 9-track 6250 bpi tape drive.

     When I use dump to write a disk partition to tape, occasionally I will
get the following sequence of errors:

xt0: timeout interrupt
xtintr: XTE_TIMEOUT reset failed, err= 0x9
xt0: hard error bn=0 er=0x40
xtwrt_eom:failed in writing EOM 1.

     Once this happens the drive is hung.  Nothing short of a reboot seems to
be able to clear it.  Everything I try comes back device busy.  If I try:

	mt offline

     It comes back and says device busy.  Powering the drive off and on
doesn't fix it either.  Once it's hosed, tar, cpio, anything else will say
device busy.  However the initial error that gets it in this state only
occurs when using dump.

     I have had similiar problems using dump with 8mm 5GB drive on a 4/670
(external) and SUN/OS 4.1.3, but power cycling the drive without taking the
entire server down seems to fix it.

     Anybody got any idea what's wrong?  Is there a fixed version of dump
available that won't hang the drive?
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Running SunOS 4.1.x on Classic's
Keywords: SunOS 4.1.x, Classic
Date: 29 Jan 93 02:30:18 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>Can someone help me how to run SunOS 4.1.x instead of Solaris on
>the Classics ?

A poster here can possibly help you avoid spending lots of time trying:

From: ppan@nobeltech.se (Per Andersson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: SPARCclassic and SunOS 4.1.x
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:20:19 GMT
Organization: NobelTech AB

In article <8457@btr.BTR.COM> bfong@btr.btr.com (B Fong) writes:
>
>Can someone verify (positively) if the SPARCclassic will run SunOS 4.1.x?
>
>Does anyone know this for sure?  That is, actually installed one?

No it won't run 4.1.3. Not only because SUN says so, but it gives a
'data exception' when starting the generic 4m kernel after booting off
the 4.1.3 CD. It runs the boot program OK though, both from CD and from
network.

Now 2.1 is on its way onto the disk .....

/Per
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From: sobi0268@mary.cs.fredonia.edu (Kevin V. Sobilo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: SunOS -- Solaris???
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:45:38 GMT
Organization: Math / CS, State Univ. of N. Y. College at Fredonia
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	Can someone email me how the release #s correspond from SunOS to
Solaris. For example: would SunOS 4.1.2 be called Solaris 1.1.2????



				Kevin V. Sobilo
			sobi0268@mary.cs.fredonia.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: beckett@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Robert Beckett)
Subject: Re: Compuserve's Internet Address
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.admin
Organization: Vanderbilt University Computer Center
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:11:24 GMT

In article <C1Dzwp.BFM@news2.cis.umn.edu>, bob@sparkie.nrri.umn.edu (Robert
I. Benett) wrote:
>
[...]
> 
> The above note indicates that someone wants to email to a Compuserve user.  
> Seems like I've heard of that working.  What I'd really like to know is if
> you can use Compuserve via Internet as if you were using the (usual) dialup
> connection.
> 

Telnet to hermes.merit.edu, and at the prompt "Which Host," type
"compuserve".
The CompuServe access via hermes.merit.edu employs Telenet, Inc's X.25
connection to CompuServe.  Therefore, there are additional surcharges to
pay for the Telenet packet-passing involvement, over and above your regular
CompuServe connect time charges.  The charges are the same as Sprintnet
charges.  In fact, if you 'GO Billing' while in CS you will see the
sprintnet charges for the sessions you connected through hermes.merit.edu. 
The current rates are $11.80/hr for 8-5 m-f (EST) and $1.80 for all other
times.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: ables@hal.com (King Ables)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Bringing a Sun to it's knees
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:49:46 GMT
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.

From article <1993Jan25.221022.28758@ra.msstate.edu>, by fwp@CC.MsState.Edu (Frank Peters):
> In article <T6AXBYAV@cc.swarthmore.edu> eoliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu (Erik Oliver) says:
> : During our Operating Systems class, we were being asked to see for
> : ourselves that "modern" operating systems place limits on the number of
> : processes an individual user can run thus preventing over load.
> 
> Interesting.  Who came up with that theory?  It isn't true and in many
> cases it isn't desirable.

But then you went on to prove that it *is* true ;-) (at least for Unix).

I took the original posting to imply that the class instructor was trying
to claim that Unix was *not* a "modern OS" because you couldn't protect
from "this here program that uses up all the processes."  Unix does have
a limit and you can change that limit.  You have to rebuild the kernel
in order to do it, though (at least on versions I know about), so it is
not as easily configurable as one might like.  The instructor was probably 
thinking of a limit you could set "on the fly" with an OS command, or
perhaps being able to set different limits for different users.

The default limit most Unix machines is that the user can use up almost
all the process slots.  As Frank said, in the case of a single-user
workstation, this is what you want.  In the case of a multi-user Unix
machine, clearly you don't want one user to be able to use up everything.
But just because Unix behaves a certain way by default doesn't mean 
it can't be adjusted.  Most things like this can be customized for 
the specific needs of a particular user community.

Unix does not suffer from a problem here unless you have your kernel
configured incorrectly for your enviornment.  Now whether or not you
should have to jump through those kind of hoops to set the limits is
a philosophical (and entirely different) question.  But claiming Unix
has some deficiency due to not having a way to limit users' use of
processes is clearly wrong.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.open-look
From: tim@mdd.comm.mot.com (Tim Rosmus)
Subject: How to determine frame buffer type on a Sun?
Summary: Determining which server to use, Xsun or XsunMono
Keywords: X11, Xsun, XunMono
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:19:19 GMT


Has anybody got a little shell script or any type of program that
will return something that you can use to choose which X11 Server
to use on a Sun?  Something like .....

if (`frametype` == "color") {
	exec Xsun
} else {
	exec XsunMono
}

Thanks.
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From: nash@ucssun1.sdsu.edu (Ron Nash)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Swapping parameters and the sticky bit
Date: 28 Jan 1993 06:00:07 GMT
Organization: SDSU Computing Services
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucssun1.sdsu.edu


We have a SS10 model 30 with a lot of memory (320MB), yet the system
spends a noticable amount of time swapping jobs.  Is there a way to
configure the swapping parameters to keep things in memory longer?
We are running 4.1.3 with 40 to 50 users.

The man page for "sticky" states:

     If the sticky bit is set on a regular file  and  no  execute
     bits  are  set,  the system's page cache will not be used to
     hold the file's data. 

Does this mean the system would benefit from setting the sticky bit
on commonly used programs, emacs, vi, csh, tcsh, in.telnetd?

Any pointers to RTFM are welcome :-)


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From: greep@Speech.SRI.COM (Steven Tepper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Dialin password protection
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:06:29 GMT
Organization: SRI International

In article <1993Jan26.175102.22518@pt.com>, rkd@pt.com (Ray Downes) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan25.170807.28007@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> kleinren@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Rainer Kleinrensing) writes:
|> >Today we connected a dialin modem to the machine. My question: how do I
|> >get dialin password protection for the line the modem is connected to?
|> 
|> I ask the same question here a few months ago, and didn't get any
|> responses.  One way to do this (as you sugested) is to hack login.
|> Unfortunately, any old login.c won't do, especially if you use secure
|> NFS.

My solution was to write a replacement for getty.  It asks for a local password
and then calls login, so I don't have to worry about exactly duplicating
everything that Sun's version of login does.  Replacing getty has some other
advantages.  For example, the standard getty is so old it thinks there are
still upper-case-only terminals, and some users had problems where line noise
would make getty put the tty in 'stty lcase' mode and they couldn't even log in
to do 'stty -lcase' because their passwords had mixed case.  I didn't include
any code to handle crufty old terminals, so that isn't a problem any more.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: cpcahil@vti.com (Conor P. Cahill)
Subject: Re: SEGV inside malloc() - This shouldn't happen!
Organization: Virtual Technologies Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 13:30:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.215835.25188@sj.ate.slb.com>, poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger) writes:
> 
> The best product I have seen is called "purify". It is not a debugger, but
> rather instruments your module at link time. No funny macros, no funny
> switches, just a change of your link line from "cc ..." to "purify cc ...",
> then run the program. It will report memory overwrites, uninitialized
> pointer usage, and memory leaks.

This is very similar to how SENTINEL works.  No funny macros, no funny 
switches, just change your link line from "cc .... " to "cc ... -lsent .."
then run the program.


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From: bob@sna.co.umist.ac.uk (bob nutter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: problem with ld.so?
Date: 28 Jan 93 12:41:58 GMT
Organization: UMIST Computation, PO Box 88, Manchester, UK

Hi,

I have a Motif program that won't run. In fact, it won't do anything! The
error is from ld.so:

__DYNAMIC version 0 not supported

This also happens if you do an ldd on the file, which leads me to suspect
that it has little to do with versions either of Motif or whether it is R4 or
R5 X. And of course the ld manpage says:

"__DYNAMIC
          Identifies  an  ld-produced  data  structure.   It   is
          defined  with  a  non-zero  value  in executables which
          require execution-time link editing."

Why's this happening? It's the first time the people who supplied the s/w
have heard of it. Am I missing a patch somewhere? It's not running on 4.1.2,
MIT X11R5, OW3, Motif 1.1.4.

bob

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: rthau@qualix.com (Rick Thau)
Subject: Re: Need Fax Software
Reply-To: rthau@qualix.com
Organization: QUALiX Group, Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:01:29 GMT

In article 147590@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV, llittle@tis.llnl.gov (Larry Little) writes:
>We're looking for an application that allows us to fax from our Suns.
>I've looked through several newsgroups, but so far I haven't found 
>any useful postings.  
>
>I found on the Sun Catalyst #4 disk two demos:  XpressFax from GNP
>Computers and IsoFax from The Bristol Group.  Does anyone have either
>of these and can comment on their usefulness?  Does anyone have
>anything else that they think is good?
>
>Larry Little
>TIS Program Network Manager
>University of California LLNL
>llittle@tis.llnl.gov


We offer a product by Replix that was just reviewed in Byte magazine, and found to
be the best of the lot.  If you would like more information, please contact us at
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From: peter@rwthi3.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Peter Heimann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: how to erase traces of old NIS slave server
Date: 25 Jan 1993 20:12:52 GMT
Organization: Informatik III, RWTH Aachen
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: bernstein.informatik.rwth-aachen.de

In <JAS.93Jan21165252@vash.ebt> jas@vash.ebt (Jim Stiles) writes:

>We used to have a slave server which has long since been
>decommissioned.  However, we frequently see references to it when we
>do NIS transactions (such as a make of the NIS maps).

You have to delete the old slave server from the ypservers map.

On the master server, create a text file from the map:
	/usr/etc/yp/makedbm -u /var/yp/`domainname`/ypservers >ypservers.txt
Delete the first two lines, and the line for the old slave.
Turn the new text file into a map:
	/usr/etc/yp/makedbm ypservers.txt /var/yp/`domainname`/ypservers
Use
	cd /var/yp ; make
to push the map to all servers.

[Please fix your mail address:
>From: jas@vash.ebt (Jim Stiles)
'ebt' is not a valid toplevel domain, and so I couldn't send mail to you.]

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: awills@wam.umd.edu (Andrew F. Wills)
Subject: Re: Help with FIND in shell script
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:44:46 GMT

In article <1k4gp8INN8ei@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU (coram populo) writes:
>Can someone give me an idea on how to make the find command use
>the {} in the -exec usage.
>
>For example, I want to mail users automagically when their mail
>in the system spool is over a particular size.
>
>e.g. as I wrote it -
>
>find * -size 100000c -exec mail {} < ./mailmessage \;
>
>But this does not work- it never finds the < ./mailmessage part.
>
>Thanks in advance for suggestions etc.
>
>Stephen Hauskins
>UCSC

Try making a general purpose shell script that runs the mail command
with the {} that you desire passed into it as a parameter.

e.g.:

find * -size 100000c -exec emergency_mailer {} \;

emergency_mailer
----------------
mail $1 < ./mailmessage
[EOF]

Something like this should server your purposes quite well.  I haven't
checked all the idiosycratic niceties of the example I've given, but 
you should be able to get the idea.

Andy Wills
The MITRE Corporation
Command Center Engineering Lab
awills@mwunix.mitre.org

Of course this is my own opinion, so don't blame me.

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