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From: gt9989a@prism.gatech.EDU (John Martin Chapman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Surrender - yeah, right.
Date: 14 Aug 92 01:50:20 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Brian,

You misunderstood me a bit.  If they have their hands up or if they are 
yelling "out!out!out!" , I'll go about my merry way.  I only meant that 
if I see someone standing there doing nothing, I'm going to waste him
and move on along.  (I really am fun to be on the field with, sorry if I
came on like Darth Vader or something.)

JOhn

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From: Brad_Murray@mindlink.bc.ca (Brad Murray)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: new topic- no pins?
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:08:18 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Rich Rubel writes:
> It seems that every time I dive behind a tree or into a sticker bush (not
> smart, but I stay in the game :-) I kinda have to stay there until rescued
> by another teammate.  Realizing that when it's 7 on 1 and the 7 are coming
> from different directions, you're screwed (or hosed?  they use semi's...)
> no matter what, how can I get out from my cover without getting painted?

Run like hell.  :)  Always retreat BEFORE it gets too bad, and when you retreat
move directly away from your cover so that your opponents cannot see your
retreat.  Then move as quickly as possible to new cover, hopefully on your
opponents flank and open up.  When they start to respond, do it again.  Repeat
until all your opponents are gone.  :)
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Subject: Re: PMI screws
From: anthrax@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:38:08 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

In article <1992Aug13.010714.106576@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, dwj0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DAVID W. JONES) writes:
> ?In article <1992Aug12.110520.20126@panix.com>, henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan) wri
> tes:
>>In article <1992Aug11.142936.1@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu> turner@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu wr
> ites:
>>
>>>I will post when I have any major problems with the gun.  Zap Paintballs and
>>
>>Please.
>>
>>>I have ripped apart my gun and put it back togeather without much difficulty.
>>
>>Wow!  I usually have to use a screwdriver and hex wrench to take my PMI apart.
>>I don't have sufficient muscle bulk to to enable me to rip through a bunch
>>of brass tubings.  (^-^)
>>--
>>My friends, we can and we will, never, never, surrender to what is right.
>>--Dan Qualye speaking to Pat Robertson's Christian Coalition.
>>
> 
> From what I've seen you better have a set of tools if you own a PMI
> and thats to keep it together. Some guys had replacement  screws that
> had a large head with a knurled (ridged) edge. This is suppose to be an
> enhancement for the hex head type that fall out. I've played with a PMI
> III and thoruoghly enjoyed it but, loosing screws out of gun is not.

Heh. I own (and love) a PMI and I have noticed that also about the loosening
screws.  Like every PMI owner, I have my trusty hex key set to tighten up 
the screws from time to time...it's normally a good idea to check and tighten
them about halfway into a day of painball...

> 
> -- 
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Mankato State University
Law Enforcement Program

Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: thomas@aslws01.asl.dl.nec.com (Kevin Thomas)
Subject: Re: Upgrading F-1 Illustrator for better accuracy
Followup-To: thomas@asl.dl.nec.com
Summary: mine's great
Keywords: f-1, accuracy
Organization: NEC America, Inc. Irving, Texas
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:29:30 GMT

kolbjc@infonode.ingr.com (Chris Kolb) writes:
> In article <80211@bcsaic.boeing.com>, tazumar@bcsaic.boeing.com (Ronald Tazuma) writes:
> > To any F-1 Illustrator Owner,
> > What have you done to improve the stock guns accuracy.  Please disclose
> > 1. what you added on the gun (type,make, specs,etc.)
> > 2. cost of improvements
> > 3. your judgement in the accuracy improvement over the stock gun
> > 
> > I have just got an F-1 and am not happy with the erratic accuracy of the
> > stock gun.  I would appreciate hearing from anyone that has improved
> > theirs so that I won't have to experiment and waste time and $$$.
> > Thanks alot! - ron
> 
> Do you think that the erratic accuracy comes from a fluxuation in the
> velocity? I used a an F-1 this past weekend in probably the best test-
> ing grounds you can come up with. I went into the games at around the
> 280's and 290's, it was pretty stable at this point, this was with a
> 20oz. non-siphon full tank. Towards the end of the game (30min.) and
> 400-600 rounds latter I could tell an obvious difference in accuracy
> and range. When I came off I was in the 240's!! A few things to note
> KOLB                                              RECON SOUTH

I don't experience these velocity problems that you speak of.  I have
owned my F-1 for about 8 months now and I've put many thousands of rounds
through it.  I use a 7oz tank.  HOWEVER, I have known other's on my team
that have had these kinds of problems with their guns.  It seems to me
that "sometimes you get a good one, sometimes you get a bad one."  I've
had players on my team who have had ALL KINDS of problems with their 
Illustrators and mine has simply been a dream.  The only problems I've
had with mine is playing in the rain, but then everybody seems to have
problems in the rain with ANY gun (esp. semi-autos).

I suggest if you continue to have problems, get in touch with
Direct Connect.

A SmartParts (tm) barrel has been many people's solution to accuracy
problems.  I have a non-rifled 14' brass barrel that I am VERY happy
with, but then again, the stock 9' barrel was not too bad for me.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Kevin

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From: gt9989a@prism.gatech.EDU (John Martin Chapman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Surrender - yeah, right.
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:29:38 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Sorry Rob, I didn't mean to type Ron, but I did.   Will some one direct me
to where I can learn to include other letters in my posts, or just tell me how?
Thanks.

John

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From: anthrax@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Surrender - yeah, right.
Date: 14 Aug 92 00:14:35 GMT
Organization: Mankato State University

In article <!75msza.albertw@netcom.com>, albertw@netcom.com (Albert Wong) writes:
> In article <1992Aug13.020641.11088@panix.com> henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan) writes:
>>in the sport.  Maybe I was being naive in my thinking and coming up with some
>>of the courtesy rules.
>>
> 
> 
> It should be courtesy to offer surrender to someone that you have a
> clean close range shot.  I believe the going discussion had to do with
> someone getting the jump on you, and asking you to surrender.
>  
> So, if you get the jump on someone, offer a surrender.
> and, if someone gets the jump on you, run, shoot, never give up!

That's pretty much the attitude that I work from.  I'm normally pretty
hesitant to surrender, but I have done it from time to time, when it was
really obvious that not doing so would be stupid.  
 
However, I always try and offer someone a surrender if I have the drop on them
and I'm not a risk of being spooged.  The logic behind it is that if I am
hesistant to surrender, it's my butt if I get nailed at close range, but I
don't assume that everyone shares my attitude and is willing to take some
paintballs in the back at 300 fps at 10 feet :)
 
It's the honorable thing to do...
 
****pet peeve alert****
 
I *hate* playing with or against people who have the attitude that "This is war
mister!" (someone actually told me that once when I was starting out).  This is
not friggin' combat, this is a game, I play to have fun and to win, but it;s
not "combat" for me.  I'd rather loose and have fun (which has happened, oddly
enough :)  ),than win with that attitude.

Eric Huber
Mankato State University
Law Enforcement Program


> 
> That's my understanding.  But my gun is broke, so I have to fix it. :(
> 
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From: v070q4r9@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Chris DiPietro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Pitts. Tourny
Summary: thanks
Keywords: I gotsta know!
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:54:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

> How did you all end up doing?>. I think there is another 10 in Illinios
> some time in Oct. you'all going?
> 
> 
> KOLB                                                RECON SOUTH
> 

We did not fair that well at the tournment. We started out great with a max
game. Our next game we played Guns of Paradise, who made the finals. I had
there flag and was bringing it in, but there was not much time left so I was
not paying attention to who was around. I had one goal to hang the flag.
When I got to my flag station it turned out that there were two of the Guns
guys at our station. I played it wrong was shot out and they hung both flags
with under 30 seconds left in the game. But we were still in it. After the
first 3 games we were in 13th place and only 40 points out of the semis. Not a
bad position. Then we moved to a new field and got the wrong end. We got wiped
by Garys Gurillas in about 8 minutes. After that we knew it would be tough to
make it into the finals, and we kind of just went through the motions. Our last 
game was against the Colonial Marines, who made it into the finals, and we held
them until 2 minutes left in the game. It was the best any team did with the
end of the field that we had. 

Oh well.... those are the breaks... win some, lose some.  Our next tournment
will probably be the Line SI Masters and we hope to do a little better..

Chris DiPitero
Lightning Force
From: henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: If you could design a gun, what would you put on it?
Keywords: paintball
Date: 22 Aug 92 15:02:03 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <BtCoG9.28E@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tj32633@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ronin) writes:
>
>Hi, I am interested in designing a paintball gun, just for fun.  Since, I am
>very inexperienced in the sport of paintball.  I am looking for input from the
>experienced players.  What is your idea of the perfect paintball gun???  What
>options would you have on the paintball gun.  Please feel free to get technical
>Any advice and comments is greatly appreciated!!!!!
>Thanks in advance.
>
Hmm...This sounds like fun.  I'll take a go at it if people don't mind.

My ideal paintgun would have the option of pump or semi.  In the semi mode it 
would have seletive fire of single shot, 3 round burst, and full-auto.  
In addition the gun would have a valve that would keep constant pressure and
maintain an even 299 fps even when the CA tank is low but still able to give
off serviceable shots.  What would be really neat is if the gun had variable
power (0-299 fps).  Ever charge at an opponent whos shots are falling shot
because he/she is out of air?  Wouldn't it be nice if the ideal gun had a
adjustable knob to tune down the gun so it looks like you gun is out of air,
luring in your 18 opponnents into range and then turning it back up to full
power( 299 fps) and nailing their surprise faces as the shots reach out to them
instead of falling at their feet? (^-^)

Of course my ideal gun would have an extensive owners' manual just just a folded
piece of paper to give the illusion of 8 pages.  If I have any problems with the
gun, the manufacturer has a local repair center for me to drop it off.  Not some
lone factory in the boondocks where bears outnumber people and servicing takes
6 to 8 months.

Lets talk about my ideal field.   To start off,  the entire referee staff will
be composed of the Swedish Bikini Team and ...


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My friends, we can and we will, never, never, surrender to what is right.
--Dan Qualye speaking to Pat Robertson's Christian Coalition.
From: robert@isgtec.com (Robert Osborne)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Surrender - yeah, right.
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:15:59 GMT

gt9989a@prism.gatech.EDU (John Martin Chapman) writes:
> As a matter of fact, I will shoot first and ask questions later.  I consider
> anyone on the other team a threat until they have been marked and will
> shoot at them until they are regardless of their position or lack therof.
> I've found that this style of play, merciless though it may be, has kept
> me alive and winning.

It may not work as expected.  If you shot me at close range without a
mercy call, you had better be big and fast because I'd be sorely
tempted to break your fucking neck.

Rob.
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From: gt9989a@prism.gatech.EDU (John Martin Chapman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Surrender - yeah, right.
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:26:27 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Ron, 
As a matter of fact, I will shoot first and ask questions later.  I consider
anyone on the other team a threat until they have been marked and will
shoot at them until they are regardless of their position or lack therof.
I've found that this style of play, merciless though it may be, has kept
me alive and winning.

John


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From: albertw@netcom.com (Albert Wong)
Subject: Re: electronic paintball
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 19:27:39 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <92225.101155U53306@uicvm.uic.edu> DMc <U53306@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>is the bolt normal, plain, vanilla-type plastic or is it Delrin?
>
>if the bolt is Delrin, I would not complain.  A Delrin bolt will almost
>always out-perform it's metal counterparts.  The material cuts _way_
>down on friction and is tough enough to take the wear.  Delrin bolts are
>still a big selling point for quite a few nelspot type guns....
>

The bolt on my venerable 68-special is indeed delrin.  Don't think
ordinary plastic would have held up so well.  Then again, the bolt on
my WGP Ranger is metal...  As long as the paintballs go out, I don't
give it much thought.

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From: mangoe@cs.umd.edu (Charley Wingate)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad,talk.politics.misc,talk.environment
Subject: Re: Cost of transit systems vs highways
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:55:05 GMT
Followup-To: rec.railroad
Distribution: na

Stephen Webb writes:

>Freeways generaly do not contribute to such development because of the
>nature of freeway driving and personal vehicle commuting.

A definite exception would be the completion of I-95 through Baltimore,
which played a large part in the revitalization of the Inner Harbor area.
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From: BRANDT_JOBST/HP1900_01@HPLOMG.HPL.HP.COM
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: SF Cable Cars
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:39:43 GMT

As I toured SF with a visitor from out of town the other day, I was
pleased to see a major technical advance in cable car propulsion.
The cable that runs under the street is supported on various pulleys
that either support it at the bottom of the trench or prevent it
from rising above the street at locations where the street curves
upward.  The latter is called a depression pulley and was previously
a safety and maintenance problem.

All depression pulleys no longer swing (unreliably) out of the way
as the grip passes.  Previously these pulleys were on a boom that
swung aside as the grip passed.  Afterwards the boom returned to its
in-line position as the cable rises to make contact after the car
has passed.  The grip and weight of the car depress the cable in
passing but in the absence of either the grip or depression pulley,
the cable would rise out of the cable slot and above the street.
This hazard occurred occasionally and a better solution was found.

Fixed depression pulleys are now mounted on slot centerline while the
slot is detoured around them.  The grip has sufficient compliance to
swerve around the pulleys and while doing so holds the cable below the
to one side of normal cable line.  This may not seem momentous but it
is such a non obvious and solid solution to an age old problem that I
find it a stroke of genius.  With this kind of ingenuity I hope to see
a solution to the ineffective emergency brake that has failed nearly
every time it was used.

jobst_brandt@hplabs.hp.com
From: hudson@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Hudson Leighton)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Driver clunk (4449)
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:20:56 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

I think what you heard was the drivers tring to squeeeze around
a to tight wye. A friend who was on the trip reported (and showed pictures)
of them wyeing the train including the man with the grease bucket.

But most plain bearing steam engine will "clunk" a little

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From: wayner@otc.otca.oz.au (Wayne Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Rail Access to Airports
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:13:39 GMT
Reply-To: wayner@otc.otca.oz.au (Wayne Robinson)
Organization: R&D, OTC Sydney, Australia

In article <6223@otc.otca.oz>, brendan@otc.otca.oz (Brendan Jones) writes:
|> There's currently a proposal in Sydney, Australia, to provide an extension of
|> the city's heavy rail network to the first airport at Mascot.  

<Other options deleted>

From August's Railway Digest 20 years ago column:

"It was announced on 28/8 [1972] that discussion on the suitability of a rail link to Kingsford Smith Airport were taking place between state and federal authorities."

(Used without permission)

Only twenty years to move from discussion to a proposal. Not bad for a government controlled railway...


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From: das@castle.ed.ac.uk (D Stewart)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Any Britrail experts out there?
Date: 21 Aug 92 08:06:43 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Aug20.134314.26140@sq.sq.com> msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) writes:
>> One other thing.  Do NOT take the Piccadilly Underground line from
>> Heathrow to London.  It is the fastest route, but even so it is slow,
>> with zillions of stops, and packed to the doors.  Take the airport bus
>> instead.  It takes about the same time, and you can sit upstairs and see
>> the view. 
>
>Others have said that the Underground takes about 50 minutes (more or
>less depending on where you're going) while the Airbus is more like 80
>minutes.  The Underground also runs more frequently and costs less, and
>is not all that crowded outside of rush hours.
>-- 
>Mark Brader		   "Doing the wrong thing is worse than doing nothing."

I would agree with this. The last time I used the Underground to Heathrow
it was fine. It was not very crowded. Of course if you travel in the "peak"
it would be but then your bus would probably get hed up in traffic.
The underground is very frequent and is included in the London One-Day
TravelCard but the Airbus is not (Airbus #5.00 single).
The main disadvantage with the underground is that the main underground 
stations in London do NOT have lifts so you have struggle up stairs and
escalators with your cases.

- David A Stewart -
EE Dept 
Edinburgh
D.A.Stewart@ee.ed.ac.uk
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