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From: santa@hit.cc.hit-u.ac.jp (Ogawa Hiroshi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: HP 95LX connectivity pack
Date: 13 Aug 92 06:21:03 GMT
Reply-To: santa@hitcc.cc.hit-u.ac.jp (Ogawa Hiroshi)
Organization: Hitotsubashi Univ.,Japan

In article <hdev.713607549@galaxy> hdev@ph.tn.tudelft.nl (Hans de Vreught) writes:

>
>In the case of the HP48, the software (kermit) is public domain. Id this also
>the case for the software of the connectivity pack? 
>
Unfortunately, the software included in connectivity pack is not public domain,
I think.  The price of connectivity pack is much higher than that of simple
cable.  It is natural to think that the difference of these two prices is
the price of software.


>If not, how can I get the pack without the cable.
>
I could not find only software in HP's catalog.  If you were in Japan,
you could share your connectivity pack with my friend who wants only the
cable.  But it is not good idea to do this between Netherlands and Japan :-)





-- 
Hiroshi Ogawa
Assistant Professor
Kanto-Gakuen Univ.
Gunma-Ken, Japan
From: ping@ping.actrix.gen.nz (Peter Ingham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Cable/connector for ED7800
Followup-To: comp.sys.palmtops
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ping@ping.actrix.gen.nz
Organization: 
Keywords: 
Summary: 
Date: 16 Aug 92 09:05:10 GMT
Organization: Private UUCP Site

I'm looking for a cable to connect a Citizen ED7800 to an RS232 host.

I've been told the cable/interface was never made by Citizen, but find this hard 
to believe.

Any advice or specs on the link for the ED7800 gratefully accepted.



Cheers

    Peter S. Ingham              ping@ping.actrix.gen.nz
    Lower Hutt,  New Zealand     3:771/220.5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.handhelds
From: michele@apex.yorku.ca (Michele Marques)
Subject: Re: Cable/connector for ZQ-5200
Organization: York University, Help Services, CCS
	<165u0rINNopl@agate.berkeley.edu>
Distribution: inet
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:24:50 GMT


It is possible to get just the cable from Sharp (via an authorised dealer
who can order it for you), but in Canada it is $105 (Canadian), while it's
only 20 or so more dollars for the entire package.

I got the cable instead from Nictrix (I got the Nictrix cable from them, not
the Sharp cable) for $60 US.  If you want the phone/address, you can get
it from math.berkeley.edu (where I got it) or e-mail me.

		-- Michele
--
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Computing Help Desk                  | Internet: michele@apex.ccs.yorku.ca
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: ematias@dgp.toronto.edu (Edgar Matias)
Subject: Re: Voice Input (was: Apple's Newton)
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:21:43 GMT


In article <1992Aug3.145230.3252@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>,
ematias@dgp.toronto.edu (Edgar Matias) wrote:
 
> One company (from B.C. I believe) makes an ear piece that
> is both a sound output and input device.

In article <Conrad_Nobili-120892220725@c50mac2.harvard.edu>
Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU (Conrad C. Nobili) wrote:

>Norris Communications, I believe (strongly)....  I just had
>a quick look but couldn't find a proper reference....  I
>thought they were on the west coast of *this* country, not
>Edgar's....

You're right; it is Norris Communications and yes they are an
American company.  However, they trade on the Vancouver Stock
Exchange; I knew B.C. had something to do with it...

I read the news clip in the May 11-17, 1992 issue of the 
Financial Times of Canada.  The original article appeared
in Business Week magazine.

Edgar
From: nye@voglnp.pnl.gov (JP Nye)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Phone book too large on HP95LX
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:33:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: oracle.1992Aug21.183323.4813
Reply-To: nye@voglnp.pnl.gov
Organization: Battelle Pacific Northwest Laboratory


In article 464@almaden.ibm.com, graff@vnet.ibm.com (Michael Graff) writes:
>
>I have my phone books split into several files.
>
>....Michael Graff


I had this problem, too, when the HP95 came out.  A simple Lotus
database holds my info.  It can be a little slow searching, but it's
all in one place, which I prefer.  Seems like multiple files + a CHAR
search macro gets the job done, too.

--
Jeff Nye           Battelle, Pacific Northwest Laboratory
PO Box 999  MSIN: K3-67             voice: (509) 375-2514
Richland, WA 99352              email: nye@voglnp.pnl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: reuver@mikro.ee.tu-berlin.de (Dirk Reuver)
Subject: Any Tele-Art Pocket Memory Users ?
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:34:18 GMT

I just bought a small (6.5 11 1.5 cm closed) electronic address book
with reminder-note, letter-to-write and call-sheet functions.
It has a 6 rows 24 chars LCD display and QWERTY style rubber keyboard.
To my surprise, the keyboard is acceptable, I can type rather fast
with the two fingers style. The memory is small (32 kB) but sufficient
for an address book. It has infrared transmission of the address
data to and from a host computer (IBM, parallel port).
The batteries are supposed to last 2 years (moderate use).
The price was about 66 US$ complete with the host interface and software.

On the cover it says: Tele-Art Intruments - the pocket memory

The thing has some drawbacks: The host interface doesn't work with
every IBM compatible. To delete all address info, you have to
take out the batteries (single entries can be deleted, though).
The variable length note fields of the address entries are not 
transferred to the host and vice versa. The reminder-note entries and the
letters-to-write and call-sheet entries cannot be transferred.

Does anyone have experience with this thing or others from that
company ? How long does the keyboard last ? Are there any secret
functions (e.g. complete download) ? How can you access the DOS driver
for the IR transmission ?

Any help appreciated

Dirk

__________________________________________________________________________
Dirk Reuver    DD6RE                  Phone:  +49 30 314 26705
Institute for Microelectronics        FAX:    +49 30 314 24597
Technical University Berlin           Email:  reuver@mikro.ee.tu-berlin.de
                    "You say tomato, I say tomato"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber)
Subject: Re: Could Someone Please Post Info on Sharp 3000?
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 05:19:34 GMT

In article <LAUB.92Aug11121801@laub.Software.Mitel.COM> laub@Software.Mitel.COM (Boniface Lau) writes:

>Could you elaborate on the above? I don't think a good PMS makes much
>difference on speed. 

It might not, my point is that a poor PMS could.  I've read that the
Poqet PMS shuts down the processor between key presses.  A poor PMS
could keep the processor shut down longer than neccesary, or have high
overhead.

>However, a good PMS does make a big difference on battery life. The
>best PMS is that of the Poqet. Rumor had it that Fujitsu bought Poqet
>because of its PMS technology.

The Poqet power management definitly makes a speed difference.  It
seems that CPU bound processing is slower with power management on,
while display intensive operations (which are pretty slow anyway),
aren't.  Sometimes it's so bad in Lotus 123 that I'll turn power
management off (Poqet-Star).  Power management must be turned off to
use the serial port.

>If you want a small dos machine, you can always get the HP95LX.
>Machines smaller than the Poqet or the Sharp are very difficult for
>text input and the full screen display are very difficult to read. 

I've seriously thought about buying the HP, but, as I've said in
earlier postings, I'd rather have a bigger keyboard.  The Psion 3 has a
keyboard that actually seems to be touch typable (I haven't tried it
myself), and is smaller than the HP (by a cubic inch).  I otherwise
don't like the Psion because it has proprietary memory modules, has
only 256KB RAM and isn't MS-DOS compatible.  There are other things I'd
like on a pocket machine too, like a bigger display, better
compatibility (the HP has a few quirks), even PCMCIA 2.0.  I might
just buy an HP when the price drops some more.

More rumor mongering:  HP-100WP, typewriter like keyboard, 80x25
screen, PCMCIA 2.0 with Type III cavity (for a Kittyhawk 20MB drive),
and Word Perfect in ROM.  I can dream, can't I? :-)  I don't like Word
Perfect that much, but lots of other people do.

ps. I shouldn't have implied in an earlier posting that HP hasn't sold
it's own laptops.  One of the earliest laptops is the HP-110.
--
<-:(= Anthony Stieber	anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu   uwm!uwmcsd4!anthony
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: shi@ics.uci.edu (Edmond C. Shi)
Subject: hp95 graphics
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:39:02 GMT

--------------------------------

i'm working on an application using the graphics
rountines in the hp95lx and have been running into
a number of problems i was hoping that someone could
help with out.  specifially,
  1) what is the difference between int10 and int 20 calls.
     it seems like there are two ways to set the graphics mode (one
     each way) and i'm not sure what the differences are.  if
       i set graphics mode using the int20 calls, will int10 functions
     such as scroll area work.
  2) does int10 read/write area work properly.  it seems not for me.
 3) when i use the jaggraph.exe program in my hp (from graph.zip)
     it hands up my hp.  has anybody else experienced this.

thanks,
  -ed


Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: nordlinger@evms.enet.dec.com (John Nordlinger - To reach the unreachable STAR::)
Subject: HP95 LX word processor version 
Reply-To: nordlinger@evms.enet.dec.com (John Nordlinger - To reach the unreachable STAR::)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 19:42:31 GMT


 


Hi, 

At least two weeks ago, I read in the San Jose Mercury News that HP 
was going to have a  HP95 LX word processor version  and it would 
likely run windows and have some word processing package embedded like
Lotus today. Does anyone now anything more about this, if this works with
all the wireless stuff (like the HP 95LX does) then I know what I want for
Christmas!!

thanks, 

John

Xref: sparky comp.sys.palmtops:2706 comp.sys.laptops:3197 misc.forsale.computers:30376
From: sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.laptops,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: Re: Atari Portfolio Package for Sale
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:55:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA

In article <Bt7IKF.739@well.sf.ca.us> melz@well.sf.ca.us (Melvin L. Zwillenberg) writes:
>
> FOR SALE:
>
>
>
> (Package A):
>
>
>
> 128K Portfolio palmtop computer
>
> Padded leather case (CASEWORKS), holds computer, RAMCards, batteries
>
> 128K RAMCard
>
> Serial interface
>
> Parallel interface
>
> A.C.Power Supply
>
>
>
> ALL ABOVE for $350. ppd.

Hate to unplug your heating pad, but I've seen people selling 512K 95s for $300 and
$375 seems to be the going price for a 1MB model....

General hint to palmtop owners: If you're thinking about selling your old palmtop
(Poqet, 95, etc.) do it NOW or you will be taking a major bath come December and
January when the Newton is announced/out.

(Whether or not I'll listen to my own advice is another question entirely)
---Steve
-- 
Stephen Okay  sokay@mitre.org

"You see, I'm kind of this control freak who likes to create his own
personal hells before the real one can get to him. I like to beat hell
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: extchbu@kk293.ericsson.se (Christian Burisch TT/RKE)
Subject: Re: Summary please
Reply-To: extchbu@kk293.ericsson.se
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 06:43:49 GMT

>From george@unixg.ubc.ca (George chow)
>
>In article <1992Aug20.085205.23747@sbil.co.uk>, jim@spitws117.sbil.co.uk (James Gillespie) writes:
>|> Hi everybody,
>|> 
>|> This is probably something that gets asked a million times a week, but could
>|> some kind soul please mail me a summary of what's available in the palmtop
>|> market at the moment?
>|> Thanks,
>
>I'll attempt a summary of The World of the Palmtop According to Me, :) 
>
>	Atari Portfolio - 5Mhz 8088, 40x8 display, 128K, 1 proprietary slot
>	HP-95LX - 5Mhz V20, 40x16 display, 512K/1Mb, 1 PCMCIA slot
>	Poquet - 80x25 display, don't recall the other details
>	Sharp PC-3000 - 5/10Mhz 8086, 80x25, 1Mb, 2 PCMCIA slots
>	Casio BOSSes - custom processor, various screen sizes, 32-128K, 0/1 proprietary slot
>	Sharp Wizards - custom processor, various screen sizes, 32-128K, 0/1 proprietary slot
>
>|> Jim Gillespie ----------------------------------------------------
>|> jim@sbil.co.uk              Salomon Brothers International Limited
>|> +44 71 721 2672             ---------------------------------------------------
>|> "Open your wallets and repeat after me: 'help yourself'" - Major Denis Bloodnok
>
>George

Hej, lets not forget the Psion:
	Psion Series 3 - 16 bit Intel Processor according to the box, 256K, 2 SSD slots,
			 multitasking os, 80x240 pixel display (various size fonts)

Christian

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From: fin@unet.umn.edu (Craig A. Finseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: hp95lx developer support
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:35:40 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota, Networking Services.

In article <2A92811C.15886@ics.uci.edu>, shi@ics.uci.edu (Edmond C. Shi) writes:
|> does anyone else seem to have problems with getting
|> support from HP on the HP95LX computer.  i won't
|> mention any specific names, but it seems impossible to
|> get any technical information from them of any quality.
|> 
|> the adminstrator seems almost worthless (except as a
|> bottleneck).

I have never had problems, but then I have never asked them anything
(:-).  I just work from the documentation and files.

Craig
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: shultz@eagle (Charles R. Shultz Jr.)
Subject: Gateway 2000
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Organization: Sangamon State University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:41:12 GMT

About the Gateway 2000 - check the ad, it says 286 "class" performance.
It is not a "real" 286.

Zeos has a new palmtop out for about $595.  Check into it too.
From: pollack@dendrite.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jordan B Pollack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Radio Shack PC-6 - Any info
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:10:04 GMT
Reply-To: pollack@cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: Ohio State Computer Science
Originator: pollack@dendrite.cis.ohio-state.edu

>- Is there any way to do PC to PC communications with it?  Mainly just 
>  laplink-type stuff.
>- Are there any users' groups out there?
>- Any ftp sites with programs?
>- Anything else you might know about it?

I bought a 4k casio fx720p in Nov 1984, (in tokyo, $80) and it is
equivalent interface and language to the PC5 and 6.  Over the years in
graduate school, I wrote a restaurant bill splitting program, a
grading program, a draw power slot game (very addictive), and an
expense account program. If you want to do anything with it, you need
the cassette interface and printer.

A couple of years ago I looked at the pc6, as a 16k replacement so I
could hold all my programs at once, but it retained the "10 programs"
limitation, was not worth it.  It cannot compete with the pocket
planners, or the PC portfolio.  Also I thought it would allow me to
overcome the idiot-proofing limitations of basic through the built in
"assembly language," but unfortunately the assembly language was
merely a simulator.

I tried to contact casio in NJ for info on the interface, but only got
the 12 signal names, which I think I can find at home; one would have
to be willing to BLOW UP a few of these in order to decipher the
interface and develop a pc link.  Otherwise the stuff is tradeable
only on cassette tape or thermal printer paper.

I'd call these device merely a transitional object, a historical
curiosity, gatepost to the infiltration of society with first wave of
low-bandwidth Boss/Wizards, then the second wave (coming) with higher
bandwidth wearable PC's, to the third wave of biointegrated personal
systems whose bandwidth is higher than our brains can perceive.

-- 
Jordan Pollack                            Assistant Professor
CIS Dept/OSU                              Laboratory for AI Research
2036 Neil Ave                             Email: pollack@cis.ohio-state.edu
Columbus, OH 43210                        Phone: (614)292-4890 (then * to fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: bj608@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert S. Williams)
Subject: Re: how to write .exm files for hp95
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 21:20:50 GMT


Everything I said is quite true. If you would like verification of of these 
statements simply log onto  Compuserve HPHANDHELDS forum and ask.
There you will find several registered ISVs (at any given time)  disenchanted 
and frustrated about the documentation and support provided by HP.

Or take a look at the HP Palmtop Paper in the letters section where there are 
published at least six letters of complaint about this issue.


                           Robert S Williams
From: laub@Software.Mitel.COM (Boniface Lau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Could Someone Please Post Info on Sharp 3000?
Date: 11 Aug 92 16:18:01 GMT
	<LAUB.92Aug6102827@laub.Software.Mitel.COM>
	<1992Aug9.173609.13198@uwm.edu>
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.
In-reply-to: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu's message of 9 Aug 92 17:36:09 GMT

>>>>> On 9 Aug 92 17:36:09 GMT, anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber) said:

[...]
Anthony> Also, most palmtops have some sort of power management system
Anthony> which shuts down the CPU most of the time.  A better power
Anthony> management system may make the slower processor faster than
Anthony> the faster processor with the poorer power management.  Then
Anthony> again, power management might be disableable which could
Anthony> increase performance.

Could you elaborate on the above? I don't think a good PMS makes much
difference on speed. 

However, a good PMS does make a big difference on battery life. The
best PMS is that of the Poqet. Rumor had it that Fujitsu bought Poqet
because of its PMS technology.

[...]
Anthony> It looks like the machines are clones of the Poqet PC but with faster
Anthony> processors, more RAM, and better software.  This is unfortunate as I
Anthony> would really like a machine that was smaller yet.

If you want a small dos machine, you can always get the HP95LX.
Machines smaller than the Poqet or the Sharp are very difficult for
text input and the full screen display are very difficult to read. 

--
Boniface Lau    (613) 592-2122 ext. 3042    Boniface_Lau@Mitel.COM
Mitel Corp.  				    
350 Legget Drive, Kanata
Ontario, Canada, K2K 1X3
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Psion link and DESQview
From: gilf@vms.huji.ac.il (GIL FREUND)
Date: 15 Aug 1992 12:49 IDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    Lines: 14

Has anyone  had any  luck installing  the Psion  3 link  software
under DESQview?  The file  server and  print server  seem to load
properly and work for a while, but then, with no apparent reason,
the connection is gone. The server programs windows then have  to
be "rebooted" as they will not close properly.
The programs use COM2, and COM4 is used by a label printer, but I
don't use the labeling program while connecting to the Psion.
Any  Idea  what  could  be  wrong,  or  what  setting (memory and
protection) should be set?

Thanks

Gil

Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.handhelds
From: cg28+@andrew.cmu.edu (Carol Goldburg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Connection an HP95 to a MAC
Date: 16 Aug 92 07:42:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.oeXbRQ600Uh_I1ekw5
Organization: Doctoral student, Industrial Administration, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Gil, you have been given incorrect information.  you can purchase the hp
82223A Serial interface cable.   it connects hp handhelds to apple
macintosh computers.  i have one.  --Carol Goldburg
From: george@unixg.ubc.ca (George chow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Summary please
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:04:35 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada

In article <1992Aug20.085205.23747@sbil.co.uk>, jim@spitws117.sbil.co.uk (James Gillespie) writes:
|> Hi everybody,
|> 
|> This is probably something that gets asked a million times a week, but could
|> some kind soul please mail me a summary of what's available in the palmtop
|> market at the moment?
|> Thanks,

I'll attempt a summary of The World of the Palmtop According to Me, :) 

	Atari Portfolio - 5Mhz 8088, 40x8 display, 128K, 1 proprietary slot
	HP-95LX - 5Mhz V20, 40x16 display, 512K/1Mb, 1 PCMCIA slot
	Poquet - 80x25 display, don't recall the other details
	Sharp PC-3000 - 5/10Mhz 8086, 80x25, 1Mb, 2 PCMCIA slots
	Casio BOSSes - custom processor, various screen sizes, 32-128K, 0/1 proprietary slot
	Sharp Wizards - custom processor, various screen sizes, 32-128K, 0/1 proprietary slot

|> Jim Gillespie ----------------------------------------------------
|> jim@sbil.co.uk              Salomon Brothers International Limited
|> +44 71 721 2672             ---------------------------------------------------
|> "Open your wallets and repeat after me: 'help yourself'" - Major Denis Bloodnok

George
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: covert@cactus.org (Richard Covert)
Subject: A:\ drive
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:24:42 GMT


I just got a 2meg sram card for my HP95LX and want to know how
to use it.

For example, how do you get the builtin apps to use the data files
on A:\ instead of C:\? I have just the 512K HP95LX and want to
remove the C:\ ramdisk and reserve the whole 512K for system use.

How do you get the Tiger Fox game to use the configure file on A:\
insteead of C:\?

How do you set 1-2-3 to look on A:\ instead of C:\ for files?

Thanks
-- 
Richard E. Covert                 covert@cactus.org
CACTUS                  ..!cs.utexas.edu!cactus.org!covert 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.handhelds
From: onetouch@netcom.com (rmh)
Subject: Re: WANTED: ATARI- P o r t f o l i o - U s e r g r o u p
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 05:17:21 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

On GEnie there is a Portfolio User's group board, w/ file library.
Also there is Atari's BBS @ 408-745-2191.

Good luck.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.handhelds,misc.forsale.computers
From: melz@well.sf.ca.us (Melvin L. Zwillenberg)
Subject: SHARP PC3100 Cables
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:29:19 GMT


Can anyone help me get parallel and serial interface cables for my SHARP
PC3100
handheld computer?

SHARP National Parts Center quotes me exhorbitant prices, such as
$111. for the parallel cable!

Can anyone help me find these cables at a reasonable price.
EduCALC does not have them.

Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops