From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
Subject: Re: MEET GEORGE TILLER, LATE-TERM ABORTIONIST Part Two
Keywords: abortion, digoxin, laminaria, pro-death
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 24 Dec 92 00:56:42 GMT

In <1992Dec23.024128.9180@ncsu.edu> dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:

>In article <1095@blue.cis.pitt.edu> 
>sgast+@pitt.edu (Susan Garvin) writes:
>>nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:

>> [lots of PHoney's bullshit deleted]

>The "bullshit" that you have deleted is information quoted 
>directly from an advertisement in the abortion clinic where 
>Dr. Tiller works.  Still think it's "bullshit", Ms. Garvin? ;-) 

>Here Ms. Garvin deletes the following key sentences, where
>Mr. Nyikos talks about the fee schedule:

>>> The cold light of reality begins with the fee schedule.  Sixteen to 22
>>> weeks, $750; 22 to 26 weeks, $1800.  Beyond 26 weeks, $2200.  

>Notice that Mr. Nyikos acknowledges that the information 
>on the fee schedule was not obtained from Dr. Tiller: 

>>> This
>>> information is missing from the brochure, and I am relying for it on
>>> _Pro Life Answers to Pro Choice Arguments_, by Randy Alcorn, Multnomah
>>> Press, 1992.  Information current as of May 1991, courtesy of Ann Tilson
>>> writing in _Kansans for Life_.

>> Really - why bother with original sources when you can use
>> pro-lie propaganda instead?  

Well, I was going to post all this, but then I decided it was largely
irrelevant since it does not deal with the digoxin abortions:

 " But back to Tiller.  I have a copy of one of his fee schedules, which 
again is broken down in such a way that one cannot tell much about the 
critical 24-26 week period:

ONE-DAY First Trimester (6-12 weeks)........................$275.00
TWO-DAY First Trimester (6-12 weeks)........................$325.00
SONOGRAM.................................................... $75.00
TWILIGHT SLEEP..............................................$575.00
Second trimester D&E (13-14 weeks)..........................$325.00
		     (15-18 weeks)..........................$575.00
		     (19-21 weeks)..........................$775.00

		     All two day procedures

		     (22-23 weeks)...........................$975.00

		     All 2-3 day procedures
		     (After individual evaluation)

	Second Trimester [sic] Installation (22 weeks and over) 
	Information and Fee schedule available on request.

I *do* try to go to original sources, but I don't like paying for long
distance calls, nor availing myself of toll-free numbers like Susan
does.  (Even though Tiller, unlike Wysong, can easily afford it.)

>Notice how Ms. Garvin deletes a few key sentences above 
>to make it appear as though all of Mr. Nyikos' information
>was obtained from pro-life sources.  In fact, much of the
>information was obtained using Dr. Tiller's advertisements 
>and using quotes of Dr. Tiller.

>Really Ms. Garvin, I had expected better from you.  Normally
>you're pretty good at misrepresenting other peoples' posts.

Yeah, some examples will be given later on in the "Mendacity of
Susan Garvin" series.  This example was so trivial, I did not
even feel like following up to her original post.  But thanks, 
Doug, for pointing these things out.

Peter Nyikos



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