HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: Micro Beards (was something else entirely) 
Reply-To: z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Organization: PETA: People for the Eating of Tasty Activists
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 07:46:21 GMT

In article <btmmnx@lynx.unm.edu> hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman) writes:

>The commercial itself is a !peeve as it features such fine straight lines
>as "I've heard that disco is making a comeback!" and "Hey, bay-bee, I'll
>hustle right over!"

	You betcha, Good Buddy -- put the hammer down and I'll meet'cha in
Shakey Town.  Tell me, somebody, where the hell is Shakey Town, and why
haven't we reduced it to a pile of rubble by now?

>Peeve: What do you call a collection of music. It's not necessarily an
>"album" any more. It might not be on a "disc" format. So what the hell is
>the generic term for it?

	It is known as either "a compilation" if you like it, or "shit" if
you don't.  It's rather trivial to make the distinction.

	Peeve: The Moron Turbucular, or is it Mormon Tabernacle, Chior is
making an appearance here in Ames.  The only thing I want to hear is
Handel's "Messiah" from these people.  I'm not going. I'd rather travel 200
miles to hear what I want than half a mile to hear nothing I like.  Stuff
that into one of your wives, Brigham Young!


--
<Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"There'll be angels on Ariels in leather>
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | and chrome, Ridin' down from heaven    >
<viking@iastate.edu      | just to carry me home." -- R. Thompson >
< ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee. >
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:00:46 EDT
From: Jenni Sheehey <JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Cryin' baby express ... what to do?
 <l6bgeaINNfed@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> <1992Jul16.222312.2931@newshost.lanl.gov>
 <l6c2ttINNgh0@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> <BrwzCF.5Ey@world.std.com>

In article <BrwzCF.5Ey@world.std.com>, eac@world.std.com (Eric A Cottrell) says:
>
>I think it is all these "know-it-all psychologists" who claim that
>correcting a child will do permanent emotional damage to the child. Like
>other theories, I bet in fifteen years we will discover that they were
>wrong and we will have millions of adult brats walking around with even
>bigger problems.

Well, don't blame it on the psychologists.  Serious psychologists
haven't thought that for years.

Peeve: Pop psychologists, who tend to state their opinions as
psychological fact after rigging up a biased study or two to support
their views.

                                                 --Jenni
From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Peevingsong
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Date: 31 Jul 1992 16:05:35 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Menlo Park, Ca.
Distribution: alt
NNTP-Posting-Host: purplehaze.corp.sun.com



In article <40405@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk> Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford) writes:

>LauraPeeve: "Laura Potler (GSFC)". Apart from the basic mystery of what the
>GSFC stands for (she's told me, but I forgot. Goddard/Goddamn something...)


"Goddard Space Flight Center."

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to...

	<BANG!>



Geoff


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From: sac@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Newbie Alert!
Date: 31 Jul 92 12:54:44 -0500

In article <17333@autodesk.COM>, booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) writes:
> In article <1992Jul28.121519.1354@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu> sac@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:
>>In article <92209.132614CEG112@psuvm.psu.edu>, CEG112@psuvm.psu.edu commits
>>a potentially immolating act:
> 
> 
>>By the way, does anyone else have the sense that jenni is the "Dan Quayle"
>>of alt,peeves... or is it just me.
> 
> She's the Ghandi of peeves. SHe passed through the flamewall without 
> stooping to its levels. It was amazing. She received piles of sexual
> innuendos (I recall one of he boys using a lot of "panties" images)
> and outright flames and blithely continued to post peeves that were
> so sweetly worded that they could make the Care Bears and My Little Pony
> barf.

This is my point entirely. She didn't "blithly continue to post peeves"
she *blindly* continued to post peeves. She was completely ignorant of the
abuse heaped upon her and either couldn't or wouldn't see that her peeves
(at least initially) were gratuitous and unsubstantial. dan quayl seems
also to "blithely" continue on doing,,,whatever it is he is doing, without
a clue as to the damage his presence incurs upon the republican party. Not
that I don't cheer the decision to keep him around. Herein lies one crucial
parallel. In any case my original statement was an afterthought that stood
on its own,independent of the post. It was my gratuitous observation that
you can either agree or disagree with. As for jenni, yes she has wrought
her own particular nitch (sp) amongst the landscape and offers a certain style
and wit that adds to this broad, learned, and eclectic topography we call
peevetown.

>>obpeeve: Or how about this one? The ever popular waking up after sleeping
>>and your hair's all messed up. I hate when that happens.
>>	
>>Am I a peevetown member yet?

> (PING!)
> 
> No you are most certainly not!

Forgive me if I don't take your word for it

> I was one of the first peevers, so I can sit on my ass and take a Civil
> Service attitute, JZ & Banta blustered their way in, Geoff became Mayor
> due to his exemplary peeves and flames, dre/bandy took the "I am not 
> schizophrenic"/"Yes, I am" route, and Jenni took the yogi walking on
> fire route in. None of them *asked*. Never *ask*.

I will afford you the benefit of the doubt on this one as more respected
peevers than thou were a might confused by this interogative. This statement
was meant to emulate the ingenuous and puppy dog need to belong style of the
original poster. I have been around here long enough to know not to ask a
question like that in earnest.

> Back to Square One, lad.

As long as I collect my $200.

Scott A. Chasse
U of Fl.-Ft lauderdale
Research Station
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: jennyb@triton.unm.edu (Jenny Ballmann)
Subject: Defrosting (fork optional)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 14:54:45 GMT
Organization: Diplomacy 'R' Us

In article <76734@ut-emx.uucp> jean@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Powell) writes:
>In article <1992Jul25.154538.23926@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> pmmuggli@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (pauline muggli) writes:
>>peeve: having so much ice/frost in the freezer that i have to
>>defrost it.
>
>
>Peeve -[>o- : I *finally* moved into an apartment with a frost free
>  ^           refrigerator that is _actually_ _frost_ _free_!
>  |
>  \------ (a peeve going through an inverter)
>
Heh.  Is it a bad sign that I find this funny?  Probably.

Peeve:  I have a frost free refrigerator, which implies periodic heating
cycles to melt the frost, which then drains through a tube to the 
condensate pan below.  Somewhere in that vital inch of space, the tube
has come disconnected.  I suppose I could gently lay the unit on its
side and fix it, when monkeys fly out of my butt that is.  At least
I have a floor that doesn't mind a little water.
>
>Post-Peeve:  When people use words/phrases with a certain meaning to add
>emphasis, even though the denotation of the word does not apply.  For
>example, a friend of mine loves to use the word "literally".  She'll say
>things like "I literally had to get down on my hands and knees and beg"
>when she didn't *literally* do that.  So why does she do this?  

Hopefully, she's not too unique.

Jenny
-- 
The future will be better tomorrow.
                -- Vice President Dan Quayle
From: booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: The further end of the world as we know it
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:59:48 GMT
Organization: Autodesk, Inc., Sausalito, CA

In article <f7lm36_.rickg@netcom.com> rickg@netcom.com (Rick Gordon) writes:
>This morning the San Francisco Chronicle ran a full-page ad from The
>Emporium (department store), *in color*, announcing their newest
>line of neckwear for gentlemen.  The ties are designed by Jerry
>Garcia.  Yes, *that* Jerry Garcia.  His smiling countenance graced
>the ad.
>
>What's left?



Some deadheads I know informed me that Garcia refuses to wear a tie
and will not wear any of his ties.

This peeves me.

I can understand someone designing an artificial limb and not needing
to wear it or a man designing dresses and passing on wearing those, but
there is something peevesome in a man designing ties and refusing to
wear one.

Thank God for Paul Prudhomme. If he will eat his cooking, I will also.

!Peeve: New Orleans for Christmas.

ER
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From: scott@festival.ed.ac.uk (Scott Larnach)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Bike Helmets
Keywords: bikes, safety, law
Date: 31 Jul 92 11:18:02 GMT

egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson) writes:

> I got my ear-drums pierced.

Sigh. Most people make do with piercing their earlobes, but Jeremy has
to go one better.

S
From: egev05@castle.ed.ac.uk (B A Page)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: a few random peeves
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:17:33 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <76734@ut-emx.uucp> jean@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Powell) writes:
>Bwahahaha!!!  Boy, wouldn't that be nice?  Yesterday in Austin, it was 98
>degrees Fahrenheit (that's 309.816667 Kelvin for those who don't like the
>Imperial system of measurement), and that's not at all an unusual temperature.
>Combine that with humidity typically over 80%, and what do you get?  An
>electric bill for a 2 bedroom apartment that's over $100.00!

Y'know, it sounds kinda funny from this vantage point in bonny Scotland
to hear of somebody actually SPENDING MONEY to keep the place COLD!

It's rather nice to hear actually.  I shall feel much better when I
climb into my thick woolly sweater tomorrow morning (despite the fact
that it's meant to be the middle of summer).

Babs
From: Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Chimpanzees/Olympic Games
Date: 31 Jul 92 08:46:35 GMT
Reply-To: Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford)
Organization: Penicuik People's Revolutionary Sheepdog Liberation Front

And lo, ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy) spake unto the masses saying:
>
>	Eh, he's just saying that to try to fit in with the
>	rest of the tv-hating peevers.

Peeve: the way the supposed "tv-hating peevers" (who despite declaring
       their aversion to it seem quite up to date on exactly what's on
       it at any particular moment in time) seem to class anyone who
       admits to watching *any* TV whatsoever as a couch potato.

>	Akshooly, Not Al prolly has several TV sets, each
>	tuned to a different channel (cricket, rugby, US
>	cop shows, CNN) with a different remote control
>	for each in his lap.

Akshooly, Not Al has exactly *one* television, a small colour portable
which...

a) doesn't have a remote control at all.
b) is switched on from 6.40am-7.25am and 10.00pm-10.15pm each weekday.
c) is only actually *watched* for about 20 minutes of that time, usually
   whilst doing something else.

The *reason* it is watched is because there is *news* on at those times.
Which allows me to keep abreast of events in the outside world, such as who
has *died* during the day, who is fighting who etc.

Different channels? Even if I was a couch potato, this is the UK, where
unless you feel like investing in a satellite dish, you've got four
channels and that's it. At the time of the morning I usually watch it I
have a choice of the test card or a blank screen on one station, the BBC
news on the other station, or the inaninity of the breakfast "news" on ITV
or Channel 4.

--
		Not Al Crawford - Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk
     "The water shines/A sheepdog skips across the face/A dozen times"
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: elliott-bruce@CS.YALE.EDU (Bruce Elliott)
Subject: Re: Messiah (was something else entirely) 
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:19:52 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.060804.4584@news.iastate.edu> z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
>
>  [ About the Mormon Tabernacle Choir ]
>
>	Go right ahead and attend.  I don't care.  My peeve was that
>a perfectly good chance to hear Handel's "Messiah" is going to waste because
>the choir is going to sing popular things.  Why should I waste my money on
>hearing music I don't like just because it's performed by a group that is
>remotely talented?  

And Handel's "Messiah" isn't popular?  It's usually only performed at two
times during the year (Christmas and Easter) but during these two times it
is so overperformed that most people in the choral world are totally sick
of it.

Granted, I can see why you wouldn't want to attend if they are performing
"Best of Rodgers and Hammerstein" or some such schlock, but if they are
doing something gut-wrenchingly awesome like Bruckner's Mass in E Minor,
shame on you for not going!  There is more to classical music than the
"Messiah".

!Peeve:  Anton Bruckner.  He wrote some really great choral works.  And
you've got to love someone with a 0th symphony.


Alex Elliott
The Lemming.
elliott@minerva.cs.yale.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:19:04 EDT
From: Jenni Sheehey <JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: radio stuff
Distribution: na
 <35977@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>

In article <35977@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi) says:
>
>Looky here, dude, this group was created for whining and
>complaining about anything that bugs us.

nonononoNoNoNoNONONO!  That would be alt.whine, down the hall.  If you
can't tell the difference between a whine and a peeve, take a close look
at the alt.peeves motto.  ("I'm right, and you're not.") Whiners get
upset, peevers get irritated.  Neither group appears to actually effect
much change on their environment, but peevers are more entertaining, in
a dry sort of way.

>If I do not want to listen to whining, go read alt.walt-disney.

I am not going to do anything special, just because you don't want to
listen to whining.

ObPeeve: Sometomes the BDI driver is a friend of yours.  It's difficult
to know what to do.  "Gee, did you realise that people generally frown
on you taking your half of the road in the middle?" "Guess what?  That
double yellow line means you're not supposed to drive over there." No, I
don't think I could say those things in such a tone of voice as to not
cool our friendship rather significantly.

                                                 --Jenni
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: BDI: Who/what is it?
From: thompson@gumby.mgi.com
Date: 26 Jul 92 15:32:19 CDT
Organization: Management Graphics, Inc.

I gave it a shot. I read about a hundred articles and searched in vain
for a FAQ list. OK, I give up. What is a BDI?
From: Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Chimpanzees/Olympic Games
Date: 31 Jul 92 12:28:01 GMT
Reply-To: Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford)
Organization: Penicuik People's Revolutionary Sheepdog Liberation Front

And lo, JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu (Jenni Sheehey) spake unto the masses saying:
>
> Peeve: there are no other truly sentient species on the planet.

Well, that depends on your point of view. Most people, I think, would agree
that there is only one truly sentient species on the planet. The "humanity
is a plague on our planet and we should all die because we're basically
parasitic scum" faction might peeve that there are *no* truly sentient
species on the planet. However, this argument has a basic flaw in that, if
they are correct, then what they are saying is meaningless (by virtue of
them not being sentient) and thus they can't be correct or, even if they
are, they can't know it.

However, if your name is John Winston, the planet is positively *hotching*
with sentient species, most of them non-native and almost all of whom are
his personal buddies.

AntiPeeve: alt.alien.visitors - grade "A" entertainment, right up there
with reading Erich Von Daniken and Charles Berlitz books. OoooEeeeeOoooo.

--
		Not Al Crawford - Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk
     "The water shines/A sheepdog skips across the face/A dozen times"
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way)
Subject: Re: Another Enema Zoo Blunder (Was: Self-serve gas stations)
Organization: New Mexico State University, MetaPhysical Science Laboratory
	<ATAYLOR.92Jul29103407@gauss.nmsu.edu>
	<1992Jul30.045832.1321@cs.yale.edu>
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 19:23:01 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.045832.1321@cs.yale.edu> elliott-bruce@CS.YALE.EDU (Bruce Elliott) writes:

   You guys are complaining about a $5 fee?  Is that for a whole year?  What
   a bargain!  Here at Yale, it costs $35 a month to park on campus.  If you
   are a student, it costs $60 a month.  The parking office is even talking
   about how generous they are because they haven't raised the rates from 
   last year.

   Alex Elliott
   The Lemming.
   elliott@minerva.cs.yale.edu

On the other hand, Alex, that's Yale. We're here at NMSU, only 60 miles
from Truth or Consequences. Considering the difference in academic clout,
[to say nothing of tuition costs] you're really paying less.

(Yeh, yeh. I know that NMSU was rated in the top ten [or was it three?] in
value per educational dollar spent..) 

Graffitti Update: All gone. Repainted. Amazing.

L.
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From: rickg@netcom.com (Rick Gordon)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: My pet peeve....
Keywords: peeve
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:10:34 GMT
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: Netcom - SF Bay, Cal Northifornia

In article <rauser.712515845@sfu.ca> Richard John Rauser writes:

>   My pet peeve is people like Alexander who whine that other people's
>pet peeves aren't appropriate to alt.peeves...give it a rest, Mr. Net Cop.

I could be wrong, but it seems like every time somebody is called a net
cop (or net.cop) in this newsgroup, the person doing the name calling
has Missed the Point entirely.  Nah, I'm not wrong.  Go back and read
what Alex wrote, Rauser.

>Richard J. Rauser       "You have no idea what you're doing."
>BANNED from alt.good.news! Censorship is alive and well on Usenet!

Oh, quit whining.  Nobody's ever been BANNED from alt.peeves.  Ridiculed,
humiliated, eviscerated, drawn, quartered, and eaten: yes.  There are
traditions to be respected here.

-- 
Rick Gordon      | "It sure was a lot easier to be a political radical
rickg@netcom.com |  when I wasn't making any money."  -- Chris Baldwin
From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Drug testing and welfare
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 18:38:20 BST
Distribution: world
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

Jenni Sheehey <JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> In article <a5qkoB16w165w@mantis.co.uk>, mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk> says:
> >Has it occurred to you that people might want to choose to take drugs?  That
> >they might do so occasionally, without becoming addicted?
> 
> I don't really care whether they want to or not, if they're using my
> money to do so.

Ah, so you want to *remove* the welfare system.  Fine, why didn't you say so?

Or are you claiming that what *you* want them to do with the money is
important, while what *other people* want them to do with the money isn't?

> people who have been over here.  Because nobody forced them, they were
> allowed to totally and completely screw up their lives before receiving
> any treatment.

Actually, it's more likely to be because (a) they were stupid and (b) nobody
cared about them.  Many alcoholics also ruin their lives because nobody
forces them to take treatment -- are you suggesting mandatory alcohol tests
and AA treatment?


mathew
-- 
"Even the most bizarre of the unions (probably that between a cat's gall
 stone and a single note 'G' from CNN's ident theme) managed to convey a
 sense of rampant impropriety."  -- 'Fortran Five', Simon G. Lawrence Leonard
From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Drug testing and welfare
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 12:57:02 BST
Distribution: world
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

Jenni Sheehey <JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> yarvin@highlite.uucp (Curtis Yarvin) says:
> >"Why is doing drugs wrong?"
> >        "Because it's illegal."
> >
> >"Why are drugs illegal?"
> >        "Because, uh, they're _wrong_."
> 
> No.  "Why shouldn't people use money to buy illegal drugs?"
>          "Because they're illegal."

What else are they going to use to buy illegal drugs?

> Peeve: People who assume that everyone who disagrees with them has
> poorly thought out views.

I'm sure your views are well thought out.  So were those of many dictators.

> >When I think the law is wrong, I _break_ it.
> 
> Peeve: People who think that disobedience is better than reform.

Without disobedience, you can wait for the heat death of the universe before
you'll get reform.  Look at the Poll Tax, for example: the Tories loved it,
and we'd have been stuck with it for at least a decade if it hadn't been for
the fact that around half the population in many areas decided to disobey the
law and refuse to pay up.

Or again, look at the struggle for black civil rights in the USA.

>                       It is possible to fix a situation which you
> feel to be intolerable by means other than self-righteously doing
> whatever you like.

Yeah, but some of us are impatient.  If the law doesn't like disobedience,
the law should be more damn responsive.


mathew
-- 
"He is heterosexual.  It is a sort of breath of fresh air, isn't it?  The
 indecent assault, an expression of his sexuality." -- Judge Geoffrey Jones

Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Subject: Re: Trundling along, looking for the right bandwagon
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 00:06:21 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.191547.18539@highlite.uucp> yarvin@highlite.uucp
(Curtis Yarvin) writes:
>>If "Elison" is a reference to Harlan Ellison, Curtis should be shot as a
>>warning to others.
>
>You'll need more examples for a good warning; most everyone loathes Harlan
>Ellison.  Not, admittedly, for his fiction (which is indifferent-to-good),
>but because he's a right insufferable bastard.

I disagree, I'd say that Ellison's fiction is very good.

>Myself I don't mind that.  What peeves me is that Ellisons's so good at
>insufferable bastardry as to humiliate my ambitions.

Same here.  I keep wishing he was part of the Peevetown Militia...

    don
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