HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Sex, the Final Frontier?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 07:56:52 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

RE  +>Maybe 'Lost in Space' wasn't better after all.

Ted "None dare call me Terry" Frank writes:

  +Yes it was!  After all, Martin Landau and Barbara Bain were married in
  +real life, and often engaged in threesomes with Victor Morse.

Is it just me or does Victor Morse bear a disturbing resemblance to
Patrick Stewart?
 

Terry "They all look alike to me" Chan 
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Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory      | 
Berkeley, California  USA  94720  | Carpe Per Diem
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: I Live to FAQ!
From: system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 18:45:53 NZST
Organization: The Code Works Limited, PO Box 10 155, Auckland, New Zealand

styri@balder.nta.no (YuNoHoo) writes:

> > F. Person high on drugs stares at sun -- gets partial blindness.
> 
> Here's a medical reference. Found it in my papers on flicker.
> It's from a set of books by Duke and Elder (No title here, sorry)
> in vol. IV, page 593. The section is named "Intermittent Stimulation:
> Flicker" and they start with a story about one of the founders of
> physiological optics: Joseph Antoine Ferdinand Plateau.
> 
> In 1829 he looked with both eyes at the sun for 20 seconds and was
> blind for several days before his vision returned. (Ok, that was
> "temporary" rather than "partial".) Some time later his vision
> failed, but probably for another reason.

The question is NOT whether staring at the sund can induce blindness, partial
or otherwise, bur rather whether anyone has ever started at the sun ("hey wow
man look at that groovy light") while stoned causing blindness.
According to my friend, this was reported by two researchers in the 1960's
[two students on campus], and this was used to support the criminilisation
of LSD (which was the substance in question). My friend reports that in
recent years these two researchers have admitted that they made it up, under
pressure from authorities when their research didn't show up any harmful
effects of using LSD.

After seeing it in the FAQ with a T reference (which I believe has now changed)
I asked for supporting details, hence the first quoted post above. I also
asked my friend for a reference, for the researchers confession. He tells me
that he heard it from a friend (thus a FOAF), but he will attempt to locate
the reference (priority=omega). 

OBUl: In Roman gladitorial contests, a thumbs up meant death, while the thumbs
DOWN meant the life would be spared. It obtained its present day meaning
because of the crowds perspective on these signals (from Caesar).




-- 
  Wayne McDougall, BCNU
  This .sig unintentionally left blank.

Hello! I'm a .SIG Virus. Copy me and spread the fun.
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Sunday, 13 Dec 1992 23:12:02 EST
From: <MIWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject:    Elevator DEATH!

Can anybody out there either substantiate this or disprove it please.

     Someone who lives in my apartment building told me of a particularly
disturbing death in the recent flooding here in New York/Jersey. She told
me that she heard of a woman who died in an elevator when it became stuck
in the basement when the power went off due to the heavy winds. While this
woman was waiting in the darkened elevator which was stuck in the basement,
the flood waters filled the elevator shaft, drowning her in the process.
    Whew, Scary way to go, eh.


                                   Rick Yukon, the Trailblazer.
From: JTCHEW@lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: A comic note on the LSD thread
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:34:55 GMT
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: Honest Ernie's Used Ions
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.252.152

Found this when weeding out my E-mail archive; enjoy...

> Fri, 7 Apr 89
> On this date in 1943 Albert Hofmann synthesized LSD in Switzerland.  A mere
> 21 years later IBM, on this date, announced the System/360.  Could one
> event have lead to the other?  I've always thought the ultimate high was
> understanding the 50 card job control deck that went in front of your
> 5 card program.

Joe "Hey, there's a ticker-tape parade!  Where's the card sorter?" Chew
From: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Scearce)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Poisoned Cocaine Legend?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 02:34:39 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: sector7g

In article 9290@Princeton.EDU, datepper@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Aaron Tepper) writes:
> Turns out strychnine is used as rat poison--a fatal dose makes
> the victim extremely sensitive.

All the dead people I know are extremely insensitive.

Brian "Strychnine -- for the sensitive 90's man" Scearce
---
Brian Scearce                                           bls@sector7g.eng.sun.com
              The above does not necessarily represent Sun policy.
                  "You can't fit the truth on a t-shirt, man."
                                 "That'd fit."

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: kasprj@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak)
Subject: Re: challenger explosion
Reply-To: kasprj@rpi.edu
Organization: The Big Wedge 
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:34:07 GMT

In article <3039@israel.nysernet.org>, warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein) writes:
|> In <1992Dec9.4704.37267@dosgate> steve.ginter@canrem.com (steve ginter) writes:
|> 
|> >Pardon my asking, but are you the Cindy Davies I knew at the University
|> >of Waterloo?
|> 
|> I am not.  Is anyone else there not Cindy Davies or not related to
|> her?
 
 Has anyone famous ever puked on Cindy Davies' shoes?
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Xref: sparky alt.folklore.urban:31550 alt.drugs:19963
From: honig@ruffles.ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken (was: Re: Brands of LSD)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.drugs
Reply-To: honig@ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Organization: UC Disneyland, in the Kingdom of Bren
Date: 18 Dec 92 08:11:20 GMT

 n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
>wisp@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Wisp) writes:
>
>>>>>There is no "lethal dose" of marijuana.
>
>>sedatives (among other things) and will kill you by respiratory failure if
>>given in high enough dose. Of course, you'd pass out long before you smoked
>>that much, then running the risk of aspirating vomit and pegging it a la
>>Elvis...
>
>	I thought Elvis shot up dilaudid and died on the shitter?
>I also read it didn't matter because he was dying anyway of a medicine-
>ball sized booze-liver and a football sized impacted shitball in his
>colon from years of alternating binge-eating and fasting, properly enhanced
>by a strict regimen of amphetamine happy meals and sleepy Percodan sundaes
>(for that extra constipation that 9 out of 10 doctors reccomend).
>
>Jim Del Vecchio


I doubt he shot up anything, but he ate lots of pills.

As the holy idol of western civillizatin, why not?

--
David Honig

"Q: What does a C programmer say to an Ada(tm) programmer?
 A: I'll have a burger and fries, no onions."
From: klg@panda.mc.duke.edu (Kim Greer -- rjj)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Amusing signs
Date: 14 Dec 92 13:00:11 GMT
Organization: Duke University, Nuclear Medicine

In article <1992Dec13.230626.25594@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> matthews@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Matt Sullivan) writes:
>In article <n0h2+cf@rpi.edu> kasprj@rpi.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Dec13.141319.7511@midway.uchicago.edu>, 
>pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (Jeremy Mathers) writes:
>
>>|> 
>>|> Yes, this is funny ('least I have always felt so), but Rush Limbaugh
>>|> claims that in Lowell, CT, they (the town council) have actually taken
>>|> it upon themselves to remove these signs because they are potentially
>>|> offensive (read, "not PC").  This story sounds pretty ULish to me.
>> 
>> Sounds even more ULish to me; I grew up in Connecticut, and there is 
>>no town of Lowell in that state.
>
>True. Only 10 States have a Lowell in them. None are CT. Mass does,
>however, have a Lowell. Anybody from U.Mass Lowell on here? Care to
>verify/deny these signs?

Sorry, but there are a few more than 10 states with a "Lowell". For example:

  Arkansas, Arizona, California, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Idaho, Illinois,
  Indiana, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Massachusetts, Maine,
  Michigan, North Carolina, North Dakota, Nebraska, Nebraska, New York, Ohio,
  Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Vermont, Vermont, Washington, Wisconsin, West
  Virginia.

But you seem to be correct that there is not one in "Connecticut" [sic].


>                  Matt Sullivan  Northeastern University

kg


-- 
Kim L. Greer                       
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Div. Nuclear Medicine  POB 3949		 voice: 919-681-5894
Durham, NC 27710  		         fax: 919-681-5636
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Amusing signs
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 20:30:19 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <1gdsg3INNi8h@bigboote.WPI.EDU> bdsm@fermat.WPI.EDU (Billy Don McConnell) writes:
>
>
>I don't know about Unknown Street, but in Austin, Texas, there is a street 
>called "Nameless Road".

A friend of mine lives on a no exit road called cemetery road.

The sign reads "Cemetery Road No Exit"

That is when the sign hasn't been stolen by people who find this rather 
amusing.



-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,misc.legal
From: davew@willow03.cray.com (Dave Wagner)
Subject: Re: No trespassing
Originator: davew@willow03
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:38:15 CST


In article <1992Dec15.191815.5085@eff.org>, mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin) writes:
> In article <4312@novavax.UUCP> mitch@novavax.nova.edu (Mitch Silverman) writes:
> >In article <1992Dec1.033650.16412@eff.org> mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin) writes:
> >
> >>But the law does have a cure for brevity. Try reading a deed or contract
> >>sometime. What it does not cure is trivial shit: "De minimus not curat lex."
> >>
> >
> >Isn't the phrase "De minimus no_n_ curat lex?"
> 
> Of course it is. But my silly typing fingers caused me to make
> a tyop.
> 
And it means, for the latin-impaired, "Bite the wax tadpole".
-- 
Dave Wagner                                     Cray Research, Inc
davew@cray.com , uunet!cray!davew               655F Lone Oak Drive
(612) 683-5393                                  Eagan, MN  55121
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.computers
From: styri@hal.nta.no (YuNoHoo)
Subject: Re: Mark Brader Posts!  (Was: Re: Amusing Signs)
Reply-To: styri@nta.no
Organization: Bohemians and Globetrotters, Unlimited
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 12:41:36 GMT

In article <BzG610.D1L@polaris.async.vt.edu>, jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu
(Joel K. Furr) writes:
>
> [too much included stuff deleted]
>
> I found that post in alt.folklore.urban and said "My, I thought Brader started
> the whole 'hijack a.f.c.' thing because he couldn't get alt. groups at all,
> yet here he is.'  I then crossposted it to a.f.c, news.groups, and alt.config
> and neglected to point this out.  I guess I jumped to the conclusion that
> people would follow my train of thought. [...]

Having cleaned and polished my flamethrower I'll try to stay out of this
thread. But, it's worth a post to point out something in the a.f.u FAQ.

The FAQ says:
> Fb.Bridge falls down due to resonance if soldiers don't break step marching over
>   Broughton suspension bridge, England, April 14 1831, fell under soldiers
>   march, but prob just overloaded, not resonating. M Brader posted Times story!

I've spent some time trying to find more bridge stories, and I'm pretty sure
that the "M Brader" is the guy Joel is using for target practice with his
flamethrower. He may have had his reasons for putting forward both RFD/CFV,
but I can see no reason to continue the flamefest now.

However, the FAQ of course points out the following:
> T. Lots of people comment on the FAQ list without actually reading it.

[This area is covered up to save Phil Gustafson some diodes.]

But, back to Joel's article:
>
> [...]  Anyway, Brader apparently has little
> trouble posting to alt., so any sympathy I had for him (not much) has now gone
> to nil.

Ok, it's Christmas time and why not use the opportunity to shake hands and
be friends. This was not the first proposal to move an alt.folklore group
into the `mainstream' (named so due to all the backwaters created by stubborn
news admins). Put the issue to rest for now, you'll probably get another
chance to launch a crusade.

ObUL: Usenet threads never die, they just hibernate.

And a linguistic tidbit - in the nordic countries we use a very old word
for Christmas: `Jul'. It's used in english as well - you spell it `wheel'.
That's my kind of a cross-cultural concept.

---
YuNoHoo  "God Jul!"   (that's a closed `o' like in `cod' and "jul" like in `Yu-l')
From: slb3y@cc.usu.edu (Punk Rocketeer)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken (was: Re: Brands of LSD)
Date: 14 Dec 92 10:46:16 MDT
Organization: Omega:  The Final Solution

In article <1992Dec11.093627.2421@dct.ac.uk>, ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan
Greig) writes in his .sig:
>               -- There is only one true conspiracy --

     and Bo Gritz is its prophet.
-- 
Patrick S. Clark | "O come let us adore them.
Email is life!   |  We've quit our day jobs for them."
Usual disclaimer | from "O Come All Ye Grateful Deadheads"
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,sci.skeptic
From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: WAS Re: Daytime Stars - Not Donahue or Oprah
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:44:48 GMT

obrien@netcom.com  writes:
> But then, those were the days when I'd get a call once in a while -
> "Hey! they're gonna fire the chicken gun at 2:00, let's go watch!"
> 
Hey, another Rooster Booster fan!  

I have never seen this at all (anyone got videotapes?), so I am not the best 
person to describe it.  An interesting example of aeronatical research.

Torsten at Omaha	I heard about it from Art Bozlee.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.college
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: College Folklore
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 16:18:32 GMT

In article <#4h2xbc@rpi.edu> kasprj@rpi.edu writes:
> I heard that, a few years back, a student at Kyoto University in Japan
>came to an exam in traditional garb of the Tokugawa period and, citing 
>an old but never-repealed bylaw of the university, asked for warm sake 
>and a plate of sashimi to fortify his mind during the test. 
> 
> The proctor, unsure of what to do, called the professor. The professor
>told the proctor to comply with the student's request. While waiting 
>for the food to arrive, the professor looked over the student's garb 
>and realized that it was the clothing of the son of a _daimyo_. The 
>professor inquired if the student was descended from the nobility, and
>the student, who was from a family of commoners, realized that he had 
>committed a grave social error and promptly committed ritual suicide.
> 
> Has anyone else heard any college folklore?

At Brandeis, there's a statue that does absolutely nothing at all when
a virgin walks past it.
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: obrien@netcom.com (Robert O'Brien)
Subject: Re: Mnemonics
Keywords: KIBO = Knowledge In Bozosity Out
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 05:28:23 GMT

I followed several days' worth of this thread, and no one mentioned the
one I've always used - 
	port, left, and red
each have fewer letters in them than
	starboard, right, and green

Anybody else hear this one?  Maybe I invented it myself!


ObUL: "Keywords" lines in usenet postings get there all by themselves

	Bob "Bob O'Bob" O'Brien

 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
  700 numbers differ from 800 numbers in that the caller pays the charges
  700 numbers differ from 900 numbers in that the recipient does not
     profit.  So why get one?  Because it's not tied to any phisical
     location.  For $7 a month (currently), I can keep the same number
     for the rest of my life.  I can make it ring wherever I am,
     if I choose to. Usually, I just let my recorder answer, like all
     my other calls. Nice guy, eh?
 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame)
Subject: Re: Why Not?
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:27:06 GMT

In article <lipn7uINNfos@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>A question on one of my college exams was "Write a question suitable
>for this exam, and an answer for it."  So I wrote:
>
>  Write a question suitable for this exam, and an answer for it.
>  Write a question suitable for this exam, and an answer for it.
>
>I wish I could say I made this up, but I actually got it from a book
>(possibly "What Is The Name Of This Book?") by Ray Smullyan.

Nope.  I'm pretty sure I read it in the chapter on self-referential
sentences in Douglas Hofstadter's _Metamagical Themas_.

	-- Stewart "my mind is a vast storehouse of worthless trivia" Tame

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Disclaimer:  Not only do my opinions represent those of Eastern Michigan
University, but also those of Dan Quayle, Richard Nixon, Frank Zappa,
Pee-wee Herman, Bart Simpson, Tipper Gore, Murphy Brown, Maggie Thatcher,
and the Easter Bunny.
From: styri@hal.nta.no (YuNoHoo)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Another University Exam One
Date: 12 Dec 92 13:58:56 GMT
Reply-To: styri@nta.no
Organization: Bohemians and Globetrotters, Unlimited

In article <Bz4Cx3.BIx@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, schertz@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Sara Schertz) writes:
>
> [story 'bout trick exam/quizz/test deleted] The very last
> line said "do questions 1 and 2 and ignore the rest." The whole class (myself
> included) fell for it hook line and sinker.
>
> Afterward, the teacher said she had a similar test in college, and only one
> student did it right.

Ok, but they might have been on to something. The last line was to be ignored
too. College students sometimes make a big fuzz over these tiny details.

---
YuNoHoo
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: ldoering@engin.umich.edu (Laurence Doering)
Subject: Re: "In Bed" - The origin of...
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 20:40:56 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Keywords: in bed

In article <1ga92uINNggr@pms706.pms.ford.com> ekimmina@pms001.pms.ford.com (Eric Kimminau) writes:
>In article <3BR=BWC@engin.umich.edu>, ldoering@engin.umich.edu (Laurence Doering) writes:
>|> In article <1g7jacINN15l@pms706.pms.ford.com> ekimmina@pms001.pms.ford.com (Eric Kimminau) writes:
>|> >
>|> >Ive been talking with some people in a few other groups 
>|> >about seeing where people are adding the phrase "in bed"
>|> >to the end of sentances. I always thought that i was the
>|> >originator of this saying from one bash some friends and
>|> >I had at a sushi place in Dallas in the Fall of 1987. 
>|> >[...]
>|> >
>|> >Can anyone else think of where they heard this first
>|> > used? Im trying to find out for sure if I am the true
>|> > originator "in bed"...
>|> 
>|> Somehow, I doubt it.  [...]
>|> My girlfriend says it after reading fortune cookies.  She's never
>|> had contact with the net, and was born in Czechoslovakia.
>|> I knew people who said it, again in connection with fortune cookies,
>|> when I went to Penn in the early 80's.
>|> 
>Like I said, I started saying it in the early 80's before I was ever near the net. Where did this originate??? Anyone???

Um, no, you said you started saying it in 1987, not the early 80's.  I 
heard it at Penn sometime between 1980 and 1984.

I think it's pretty unlikely this custom has a unique point of origin.  
You say you invented it (among your circle of friends) 5 years ago,
and somebody else says they heard it 20 years ago.  This seems to argue
that the idea is sufficiently obvious that many people, at many different
times, "invented" it.  There's probably a bunch of people at a Chinese
restaurant somewhere re-inventing the saying right now.

Larry Doering
Xref: sparky alt.folklore.urban:31170 rec.arts.startrek.misc:12644
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Mnemonics
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:25:22 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA

craig@ug.cs.dal.ca (Ryan Craig) writes:
: 
: That is the case at the current time and will, I believe, be the case for
: some years to come, the outermost planets taking as long as they do to make
: an orbit of the sun.  It is still correct to say that Pluto is farther away
: than Neptune, however, as long as you're comparing the average distance
: of each from the sun, and not the maximum distance of one to the minimum
: distance of the other.  I know that there is terminology for this, but I
: can't remember it.

Just like anything else that deviates from the norm, the word is eccentricity.
The exception is when describing poor people who are eccentric - they are
known as 'crazy'.

Bill "Mad as a hatter" Nelson
From: ekimmina@pms001.pms.ford.com (Eric Kimminau)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: "In Bed" - The origin of...
Date: 14 Dec 1992 20:50:37 GMT
Organization: Ford Motor Company
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: pms001.pms.ford.com
Keywords: in bed


|> I first encountered it in connection with fortune cookies when I was
|> in high school, around 1985.  So there's another data point.
|> (I graduated in 1986.)
|> -- 
|> Matt McIrvin

What part of the country was this in?
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