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From: remke@cs.tu-berlin.de (Jan K. Remke)
Subject: Berlin Rave Scene (FRG.)
Keywords: berlin frg
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:54:19 GMT

Are there any *GOOD* raves in Berlin ???
I don't mean TRESOR, and I don't mean PLANET, also not the WALFISCH!!!
F... TRESOR, motherf... PLANET and p... on WALFISCH...
This commercial shit is not at all interesting, though they're *VERY*
intolerant, eg. I've got *VERY* long hair, they didn't let me in...
And the prices 4 drinks etc. are even higher than the prices of a
***** (5Star) GrandHotel, Presidental suite... Yeah, really true.
So if someone knows something 'bout good places to go (Tekkno, House),
tell me immediately !!! This applies for the region Berlin/Brandenburg.

Greetings:
Jan.

P.S. If any drug dealer named 'Freddy Krueger' wants to sel his stuff
     to you, DON'T make any business with him, he gets all of his E.
     from a group of PIMPS in Berlin, some kind of NAZI - Gang...
     (Disclaimer: THIS IS *NOT* a joke, but a serious problem!!!)

-- 
Jan K. Remke, Postfach 304041, W-1000 Berlin 30, Tel. auf Anfrage...
remke@cs.tu-berlin.de / remke@nostromo.sub.org (Planet Earth sytems)
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: Jari.Makela@hut.fi (Jari M{kel{)
Subject: London by 135bpm
Organization: Helsinki Whisky Tasters Association
Distribution: alt
Date: 27 Jul 92 01:20:22

                                   
 I thought of coming to London next weekend.
      that is

                            to2AUG
                from31JUL
                                1992ad

                         and i'd like to know

 *Where are the rave to be raved*What are the clubs to go to*Who puts
 the flyers in my hand*Which are the latest newest 12"ers to buy*What
 are the record stores*How do I get my hands on a 16k ZX Spectrum wit
 h a rubber keyboard and Traz-Am game module plugged in Interface II*


            Give      Oxford           Tottenham
              me      Circus |/      | Court Rd
             the            -O-------O-
        ultimate            /|       |
            tube             |       |/
             map              \      O Leicester Sq
              to               \    /|
              my                \  /
            rave                -O<
       xperience        Piccadilly \
            1992          Circus

...or if you won't...

                      just tell me address of some decent raggamuffin club...
please...

Jari
--
Who the fuck is James Brown is shot dead in front of a live one and
only dominator Jesus Kennedy contaminated by poison big in Japan is dead
From: csw72@seq1.keele.ac.uk (Dom)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Nexus 21(Altern 8)
Date: 30 Jul 92 00:28:39 GMT
Organization: University of Keele, England

In article <1992Jul27.170225.2163@beaver.cs.washington.edu>, karty@cs.washington.edu (Richard Karty) writes:

> I'm almost positive they don't have an album. It seems that after a
> single or two, they changed their name to Altern-8 and began making
> all those altern-8 records.
> 
> The new Altern-8 LP contains a re-working of Self  Hypnosis (has
> anyone heard it?). I read in an interview that they feel it may be
> time to return to their Nexus 21 format. 
>
> Richard

Yep - Chris & Mark are stopping Altern-8 very soon now, the next single
to be released will be a severely remixed version of Brutal-8-E which could
well be Altern-8's last.

But... the good news is that the Nexus-21 album is more or less finished and
will be out soon, will let you know nearer the time.

A quick couple of new releases:

Stakker Humanoid '92  (8 mixes) from Stakker (aka Brian Dougans
                                              aka Future Sound of London)

Trip II The Moon Part 1 by ACEN  (Uses James Bond Moonraker sample)
includes XXX mix of Close Your Eyes.

While on the subject of ACEN, does anyone know if the Optikonfusion mix
that is on a couple of compilations includes the "Here comes the sun" sample ?

Laters,
Dom.
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mikes@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Shou-Yung Shum)
Subject: more moby
Organization: Rice University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:12:20 GMT

there was a fellow who was posting about moby a while back, and if you
don't know already, i've heard the guy is a strict christian as well as
a vegetarian, who absolutely abstains from any drug use (which is remarkable
to anyone who's ever seen the guy live [i don't mean dj'ing, but 'miming'
his songs])... as for the discography, there have been two 12" issues of
go... the first one had the woodtick, analog, nighttime and low spirit
mixes, and the next one has the remixes on the instinct cd version (including
that unstoppable rainforest mix)...

i don't mean to offend anyone, but the idea of a techno compilation on cd
being attractive to anyone is beyond me... how can anyone just _listen_ to
techno... it's only functional as dance music, and thus, should only be
bought on vinyl, unless you can afford those cd mixers... even then, i don't
believe anything can quite match that feeling the first time you cue up
a record (a la cj bolland's `horsepower') on that sleek tech1200, and watch
the dance floor pack...

yours,m
spincycle "life@135bpm"

Xref: sparky alt.rave:1773 rec.music.misc:20261
From: ccat@netcom.com (Chris Beaumont)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: "Ask Alice...", anyone?
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:38:49 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)


...
The song "White Rabbit" was originally recorded by "The Great Society"
(Grace and Darby Slick's band..predates the Airplane..)
around 1965-66 or so... The original is great..about 8 or 9 mins. long...
much better than the Airplane version...
If you see either of the Great Society's two (rare now, I think...)
records,check them out..Very cool,pre (but not too "pre"..if you know what
I mean..) folk... Still sounds very current...

-- 
--
Chris Beaumont
PO Box 170156,San Francisco,CA. 94117
ccat@netcom.com
Newsgroups: alt.rave,osu.music,comp.music,rec.music.industrial
From: tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Todd J Sines)
Subject: body release plays smart bar (cleveland) 700 high (columbus)
Keywords: techno, rave, body release
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 11:55:20 GMT

HEY! Body Release (columbus's only true techno act) is playing at:

RiveRave '92

Smart Bar in the Flats, Cleveland, OH (1575 Merwin Ave)

on Friday, 24 July 92 at Midnight. Featuring Columbus's top jocks,
Mike Gallicchio and Kevin Grimm (Kevy Kev)

Word has is there will be a crowd near 600 at this fest, in conjunction with
the Kool-Aid rave the following day featuring Beltram, Cybersonik, and FUSE.
Techno weekend!


next performance

Eclipse (this is supposed to be an industrial rave, but we're not industrial)

700 High in the Short North, Columbus, OH (700 n High)

on Wednesday, 29 July 92 at 11pm. Featuring Mike G on the wheels.

Come here if you're not going to Lollapalooza in Cleveland. Featuring many new 
songs. Last time the turnout was record breaking for a Wednesday night by this 
fairly new techno band.

after that:

Ft Wayne, IN.

on Friday, 8 August at the Club. An old movie theatre turned into a
warehouse/concert hall. Last time we played there the crowd was at 300. Should
be live.

possibly Chicago, IL

on Saturday, 9 August. Tenative.

other than that, we might be releasing vinyl and CD through Addiction.

Until then, write for tapes and send $4 for postage and handling.

sines
-- 
    respond>>
    **todd sines----email at: tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu---digitally.**
    **384 E.17th/Columbus, OH 43201 tel614.299.9529---the rest of the world**
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.industrial
From: dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe)
Subject: Re: U.F.Orb CD errors?
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.industrial,rec.music.cd
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:16:57 GMT
Distribution: usa

In <1992Jul29.162909.21077@javelin.sim.es.com> pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) writes:
>It would seem that I have a poor pressing of the U.F.Orb CD.  I can't see any
>visible defects, but it has a high tendency to skip, even when the CD player
>isn't jarred.  Has anyone else had this problem with their copy?

good reason to have vinyl over cd's 

well i know this has been mentioned before
on some list or another..

ive never tried this, but if it helps..
but if you take a green marker and run it around the edge of the cd
it should help it out some

i dont know if another color marker works and i dont know 
why it works
and i dont know if it works
have fun
--
If we were still going barefoot the world would be a
much softer place.
				   ,
IravethereforeIam Prod.           dana watanabe
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: chris@kuling.docs.uu.se (Christian Bartholdsson)
Subject: Re: KLF - what happened?
Organization: UDAC, Uppsala, Sweden
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:24:43 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.003027.13816@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown) writes:
> 
> To elaborate, they were more of a novelty band, I mean, at the time they
> did it the idea of a Scottish rap act was inconceivable.  The other
> important thing to mention is that as part of their gimmick they pushed
> the envelope (sorry to use a Tapism like that) of sampling far beyond what
> anybody else would think of doing at the time.  It was the "sampling" of
> Abba's "Dancing Queen" in its entirety that spelled the demise of that
> first album.

If Bill Drummond could hear you he would kill you.  "Novelty band"!?
"Gimmick"!?  Aaargh!  

- chris@kuling.docs.uu.se
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I hope we never die
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Some questions on rave making (fog)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 07:38:17 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

rej@bob.sal.wisc.edu (Randy Jones) writes:

> Hey, does anyone know if this stuff is bad for you? Or rather, how bad?
> Or if there's a kind of fog juice which doesn't give you that fuzzy
> taste? 

It ain't *great* for you, if you're using one of the chemical/oil-based
machines.  Dry ice works in a pinch, and a guy named Jim Doyle actually
won recognition from the Oscar people this year for his "Dry Fogger"
design, which uses liquid nitrogen.  I wouldn't want to be stuck in an
enclosed space with the output from some of the stinkier non-CO2/Nitrogen
fog pumpers.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

"Too bad Thelma and Louise weren't there."
		-- Mick Washbrooke
Xref: sparky alt.rave:1744 rec.music.misc:20181
From: shadoe@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David Freeman)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: "Ask Alice...", anyone?
Date: 22 Jul 92 06:28:45 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rave
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX


     I've been wondering the same thing.  The original is done by Jefferson
Airplane on the album 'Surrealistic Pillow'.  It is also on the comp-
ilation, 'The Worst of Jefferson Airplane.'
                         Shadoe
.
 
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Prime Cuts is going down hill...
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:44:31 GMT


Well Louis quit to return to school.  I wrote them an order last week and had
to call to find out what the hell was going on with it.  They took about ten
minutes to find it under a stack of something or other.  Then they called me
back yesterday with the order, but I wasn't at home, so I returned their call
this morning.  I got put on infinite hold and wasn't able to talk to anyone.
ARRRRGHGHGH!  Pisses me off that my favorite record store has gone to the pits
since Louis vacated.  I'm almost going to fork over the extra bux for Street
Sounds.  I wonder if they'll give discounts for mass quantity?
-- 
	   "What state is Salt Lake City in?" - Ticketmaster Agent

DISCLAIMER: My writings have NOTHING to do with my employer.  Keep it that way.
Pete Ashdown    pashdown@slack.sim.es.com    ...uunet!slack.sim.es.com!pashdown
Xref: sparky alt.rave:1823 rec.music.industrial:8797
From: karty@cs.washington.edu (Richard Karty)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Mailing list for d.j.'s
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:20:46 GMT
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle

A while ago someone mentioned a mailing list for topics of interest to
d.j.'s. 

Can anyone tell me the e-mail address for signing up?

Thanks.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: jondr@sco.COM (Desi The Three-Armed Wonder Comic)
Subject: Re: Techno/Rave vs. Industrial
Reply-To: jondr@sco.com
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:41:57 GMT


I am not pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman).  I didn't say:
>In <1992Jul27.183932.19900@sco.COM> jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car) writes:
>>>I could go on and on, but the point is that there's LOTS of "good Techno" out
>>>there nowadays ...
>>the new jazz/acid stuff is brilliant.  pretty soon those choir sample
>>headbanging techno tracks are going to seem as dated as 1980's synth pop.
>EXAMPLES!  WE WANT EXAMPLES!
>New jazz/acid indeed. :-)

we had a local DJ over our place last week recording a tape for nefarious
purposes that i am not at liberty to disclose.  i wrote down all the songs
he played.  i will share that set list with you, the lucky alt.rave reader.
good luck finding this stuff though - 95% of the items are vinyl only (you
remember, those round black things that your drunk friends are always using
as drink coasters?)...  my advice is go to a local DJ specialty shop and beg
on your lousy stinking knees.

format is artist (label, country).  some of these records were very hard to
decipher.  question marks represent questionable information.  i can't
remember which songs were acid, trance or jazz, but most of them were
excellent.  good luck...

maldido primitivo	(dance+waves, italy)
liberty city		(murk, USA)
mr clubman		(malego, USA)
ferrari			(eightball, USA)
integrity II		(outrage, belgium??)
black ice		(velvet city, USA)
finitribe		(one little indian, UK)
herbal infusion		(zoom, ?)
aquastep		(wonkabeats, belgium)
dr foster		(midtown, UK)
the orb			(big life, UK)
tribal village		(??)
fresh 'n' funk		(??)
rhythm 3 request	(UMM, italy)
chestnut		(natural, NL)
atom heart		(aural audio, ?)
world party II		(HPF, ?)
colone			(????)
burger industries	(eat fork, belgium)
space cube		(force inc.)
acid junkies		(DJAX, NL)
mario van zanten	(music man, belgium)
microbots		(R&S)
monoton			(transtronik)
ultraviolet catastrophe	(twitch, USA)

-- 
Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ)                 uunet!sco!jondr   jondr@sco.com
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What's wrong with you?  What's wrong with everybody in this CRAZY PLACE???
From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf))
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: James Brown *IS* Dead
Date: 26 Jul 1992 00:21:00 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

>"subbacultcha" or not.  I've been listening to house since 85-86.  I will
>always listen to dance music, although I much prefer underground dance music
>done in some guys bedroom with $50 to the over-produced pop-"enhanced" dance
>music that is inevitable once a form of music reaches "the mainstream".  

Gee, _I'd_ like to be able to produce a house song in my bedroom for $50 :)

I don't think money is the key here, it's the heart.  I mean, Orbital must
have spent a _ton_ to get the wonderful sound on his disc, and the Shamen as
well, but they _know_ what to do with it, unlike some other Stock Aitken
Waterman-produced band (not naming names, but it's two words, first word a
number, second word meaning "unbounded") who have the money but no ideas.  I
do have a lot of respect for self-produced and low-budget stuff that sounds
good, but I don't necessarily _prefer_ it.

>You
>can not deny the fact that once a type of music reaches "the mainstream" it is
>forever alterred, it's effects being felt on every level, down to the most
>underground.  

Yes I can. If a group stays committed to making music for the sake of making
music, and not on getting a platinum this time around, then more power to
them.

Techno has stayed, in my mind, remarkably resiliant to the Forces of Money(tm)
I mean, there are still underground labels all over the civilized world 
cranking out white-labels and 12"'s with pressings of 200 or 500 that still
press the envelope.  

And even if the top ten comes to be dominated by the likes of "Powerpill"
or Moby, I'd still rather see the masses dancing to this than Michael
Jackson or Garth Brooks.

I would call this progress.  I would also see it as techno having much more
influence over the mainstream than the other way around.

>And, yes, I agree that non-conformity for the sake of non-conformity is
>conformity.  

So you agree with us?  Conformist!  (many *smileys*!)

> ___________________________________________________________________________
>|                                        |                                  |
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>|________________________________________|     Tomorrow's Reality Today     |

Brian


Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: Re: U.F.Orb
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:20:32 GMT

(John Shiple) writes:
>Just got my copy of UFOrb today--and it's bbbbbaaAAAAAAADDDDDD!!!

...as in gooooOOOOODDDD, I assume.  I agree.  It's equally as good as
Adventures.  My only complaint is that the beats are all straight house
whereas the first album gave you more of a mix.  But everything else
about it is fantastic and it's different enough from Adventures to be
worth whatever you paid, which brings me to the second point...

>--I paid ~$30 for my copy--anyone in the US pay less?  If so, where
>do you get your stuff--locally, or mail-order or whatever...

A typical import CD album costs $16 for the store to get, and the markup
is usually around $6-$9.  So you kind of got stiffed but it's not that bad.
Just try another store.  Check out the independent stores.

Mike
-- 
Mike Brown
mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 23:37:41 EDT
From: Simon Gatrall <sg1q@frc2.frc.ri.cmu.edu>
Subject: Gatorave

People have been asking about the "reality" of Gatorave...
here's the inside scoop:

Gatorave was originally going to be held in a "proper" rave location
(ie. abondoned wharehouse, large field, etc.)  But good locations that
won't be instantly busted in Pittsburgh are few and far between.  I've
been in the club scene here for the past 6 years and every promoter or
wanna-be promoter has tried to find a good place either to do live
music or have djs.  Nothing lasts very long.

So yes, it's happening at Metropol.  I don't know if I'd call it a
"real" rave, but it will happen, and most likely it will be good as far
as Pittsburgh goes, but it certainly won't be a
5000-person-SF-rave-blow-out-party-till-10am-under-the-stars type
rave.  Euphoria will definitely be there (he lives 15 minutes away).
Metropol does have 4 Intellibeams and good fog, but nothing earth
shattering in terms of sound or lighting effects.

Anyway, Scott Forbush (Cleveland) and Earic Patton (DC) are both
supossed to be very very good, but I can't vouch for them personally.
Eric "Strobe/Euphoria" Cohen makes good records, but I've never heard
him mix very well (He occasionally spun at Metropol when he was a
light-tech there, and he spun at some parties last year - then he
wasn't very good, but he may be better by now).  "Dr. Seuss" is Ken
Clunas (sp?) who does the lights at Metropol.  Ken and Eric both have
good record collections, and good musical taste, but they aren't
seasoned DJs.  "Miss Lisp" is Doug Weimer, Metropol's current head DJ,
formerly of Troubadour, formerly light tech at Metropol.  He can spin
well, and he knows his disco and house (better than his techno).  His
other Love Planet parties have been well received.  It should be a good
contrast to the techno rave music in the main club.

I'm going because I want to see all the people who do show up, I want
to hear Scott Forbush and Earic Patton spin, I want to see Euphoria
live, and I'm on the guest list anyway. (nyah, nyah :-)

PS rumor has it that othEr mood altEring chEmicals will bE in
abudancE.  Although I don't know if I'll partake, I'm interested to see
how that affects the crowd.

-s!mon
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.industrial,rec.music.cd
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: U.F.Orb CD errors?
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 22:35:25 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete
Distribution: usa

dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe) writes:

>> It would seem that I have a poor pressing of the U.F.Orb CD. 
>
> good reason to have vinyl over cd's 

I've had more LPs that were defective out-of-the-shrinkwrap than I have CDs.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
From: grecomv@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu (Mike Greco)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: NYC
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:32:50 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.052728.25303@athena.mit.edu>, donsterw@athena.mit.edu (The Donster) writes:
> 
> hey all you ravers out there:
> 
> I'll be going up to NYC from Boston (there really isnt much of a rave scene here
> or maybe it's just that I havent found anything that's even close to what they
> have in my native San Francisco) on the weekend of the 31st of July.  I was
> wondering if any of you have info about any upcoming raves in the NYC region
> during that weekend, or are there regularly scheduled ones?  I'm like not
> looking for just club shit either.  I can always find that here in Boston.  I'm
> totally psyched because it's my first time in the big apple.

Well I dont know of any 'raves' or raves claiming to be raves, but if you've
never been to NY then I would suggest hitting a club.  I dont mean to sound
like the july Details, but you might want to check out Limelight,Palladium or 
Tilt.... also Save the Robots and Opera.... These clubs are very intense
on a good night.. Even on a bad night, they are far better than anything boston
has to offer.  Limelight and Palladium are a bit more Trendy, but ahead
of the rest. Tilt is gaining notice, while STR and OPERA are after hour joints.
Ask around for the location of those.
Peace,
Mike
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: elombard@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Eddie Lombardi)
Subject: RAVES IN TORONTO
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:17:45 GMT

Here is an update of raves happenning in Toronto in August.  More information
will follow.


1. NITROUS 014 SAT AUG 8.  Indoor/outdoor rave with mid-way.  Advance tickets
   recomended.  Tickets avail at Rural Clothing 242 Queen East (Toronto) and
   at Apollo Records Elmwood Ave (Buffalo).  Info line 416-760-3185.

2. EXADOUS Sat Aug 15.  I beleive these guys first started the rave scene.
    Left most of my info at home so can't tell you much.

3. MAYHEM Sat Aug 22.  Don't know much about this either.  Info line 416-631-4738