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From: kolbush@dialogic.com (Rich Kolbush)
Subject: Worms Gone!
Organization: Dialogic Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 21:58:46 GMT

Recap:
A couple weeks ago I began noticing white fiberous moving worms in my
55 gal FW tank that houses an ocsar, dempsey, & pike.  I would like
to thank all of you that responded.

The general response was that these worms come from feeder fish, and
manifest themselves in dirty gravel.  Most recommended water changes
and gravel vacuuming.  Several people recommended CopperSafe, while
others disputed its value.

A woman at a local shop recommended Live Bearer by Aquarium Products.
After several days of 20% water changes and a complete gravel 
vacuuming, I added the medication.  It requires 1 drop/gal and they
recommend the procedure be repeated after 24hrs, then once a week for
one month.  It has been 4 days since I added the medication, and I have
NOT SEEN A WORM SINCE.                                

Thanks again to all that responded to my original post.
Rich

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Organization: Middle East Technical University - Computer Center
Date: Wednesday, 15 Apr 1992 14:47:25 TUR
From: <E66940@TRMETU.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: stg

Test........
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: xcz13@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: re: home made aquarium
Reply-To: xcz13@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 17:55:01 GMT

a few segestions concerning the wood for your shell

use HARD wood over soft. Hard wood will not worp do to presure like soft
I would sejest oak-it has a rather atractive grain or walnut. Walnut is 
a bit darker then oak. Also dont varnish, it traps mostuer in the wood 
making it more apt to worp. You can find a rather large selections of 
stains to finish the cabanite off with just about any look. As for 
thickniss I realy cant tell you for sure, but I think that a couple of
inchis would be enufe. I have neve made an aquarium but I do work with
wood in a couple of my outhere hobbys.

ELF-KIN
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: A8721GAJ@vm.univie.ac.at (Osiander MEIXNER)
Subject: Addrs of Lamp-manufactures wanted
Organization: University of Vienna
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:23:52 GMT


Dear reader,
  Since i am from Austria (not Australia!) and we have different brands
here, pls let me know about some addresses of manufactures, who build
lightequippment for aquaria (especially marine ones).
 And  - please excuse my poor english.                   -osiander
From: slmt9@cc.usu.edu (Joshua Dinerstein)
Newsgroups: alt.lang.asm
Subject: A question on the Turbo Debugger.
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:56:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: cc.1992Apr7.075636.54263
Organization: Utah State University


	On the Turbo Debuggers. Is there a command line version that will work
for tasm? I have a class this quarter in IBM asm and I am using the tasm that
came with my Borland C++ V3.0 system. 

	Thanks in advance,
	Joshua


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If it's a raincoat why does it have to be dry cleaned?
        - Some Guy on some comody show
Newsgroups: alt.lang.asm,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.programming
From: cal@world.std.com (Charles A Lynch)
Subject: msdos debuggers
Summary: Huh?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 02:06:53 GMT

Hi. I wonder if anyone out there knows of some good debuggers. I'm
using Microsoft's Codeview now, but it kind of stinks...I almost
prefer to use DEBUG. So anyway, please let me know, preferably in email,
of any good 8086 machine code debuggers. If commercial, you could hint
where to pick it up, or if shareware, where I can FTP it from.

Thanx...
CAL@world.std.com
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Newsgroups: alt.lang.asm
From: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael D Kretzer)
Subject: Re: How do I make Tasm produce .com files?
Originator: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 05:12:04 GMT

From article <73484@netnews.upenn.edu>, by jrv@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (JR VanMechelen):
> In article <1992Apr9.123916.54341@cc.usu.edu> slmt9@cc.usu.edu (Joshua Dinerstein) writes:
> If you use tlink, the method is to compile with the tiny model, then
> link with the /t option.  I believe that what one used to do with the
> MS linker is produce a .exe, then use exe2bin to convert the .exe to a
> .com.  I don't know if the Microsoft Linker can write a .com directly
> now.

As far as I know, you need to use the EXE2BIN utility to convert the
Microsoft Linker's .EXE output to a .COM.  At least, that's how I used
to do it 6 years ago (the last time I worked with .COM files on a regular
basis :)
Newsgroups: alt.lang.asm
From: ury@mosque.huji.ac.il (Ury Segal)
Subject: 8088 Distruction set
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 08:57:38 GMT

Hm. 80x86 got a really BAD distruction set, some ppl claim. (So am I).
I'm intrested in making a "collection" of reasons Y 80x86 assembly is
so bad. So if you have some gripes about it - pliz post it / mail me!
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From: slmt9@cc.usu.edu (Joshua Dinerstein)
Newsgroups: alt.lang.asm
Subject: How do I make Tasm produce .com files?
Date: 9 Apr 92 12:39:15 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

	I have now started to use Tasm v3.0, and the Microsoft Linker v3 for my
class this quarter. The problem is this. I for now need to have the output
files come out in com files rather than exe. Does anyone know of an option that
will let me get the output in that format?

	Thanks in advance,
	Joshua
	SLMT9@cc.usu.edu

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If it's a raincoat why does it have to be dry cleaned?
        - Some Guy on some comody show
Organization: Ministry of Education, Computer Center NETNEWS system V2.3
Date: Monday, 13 Apr 1992 11:40:57 EST
From: <NCKUS183@twnmoe10.edu.tw>
Newsgroups: alt.lang.asm
Subject: 8048 unassembler need

i need a 8048 unassembler to decode 8048 machine binary code to 8048 assembler
From: int588u@mdw036.cc.monash.edu.au (Mike Grasso)
Newsgroups: alt.lang.asm
Subject: Re: A question on the Turbo Debugger.
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:27:58 GMT
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.

slmt9@cc.usu.edu (Joshua Dinerstein) writes:


>	On the Turbo Debuggers. Is there a command line version that will work
>for tasm? I have a class this quarter in IBM asm and I am using the tasm that
>came with my Borland C++ V3.0 system. 

>	Thanks in advance,
>	Joshua

There's an option to make it go memory resident, but I'm not sure if that'll
achieve what you want. To tell the truth, I haven't stopped to read the doc
on quite what it does like that (any suggestions for how to draw a sheepish
smiley?)

.\\ike
From: jrv@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (JR VanMechelen)
Newsgroups: alt.lang.asm
Subject: Re: How do I make Tasm produce .com files?
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:51:35 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Apr9.123916.54341@cc.usu.edu> slmt9@cc.usu.edu (Joshua Dinerstein) writes:
>
>I have now started to use Tasm v3.0, and the Microsoft Linker v3 for
>my class this quarter. The problem is this. I for now need to have the
>output files come out in com files rather than exe. Does anyone know
>of an option that will let me get the output in that format?

If you use tlink, the method is to compile with the tiny model, then
link with the /t option.  I believe that what one used to do with the
MS linker is produce a .exe, then use exe2bin to convert the .exe to a
.com.  I don't know if the Microsoft Linker can write a .com directly
now.

More importantly, why would you want a .com (just curious, not a flame :-)

Hope this helps,
JR
From: pfrants@cs.vu.nl (Frants P)
Newsgroups: alt.lang.asm
Subject: Assembler
Date: 10 Apr 92 09:10:09 GMT
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, Vrije Universiteit, Amsterdam

Where can i get a good assembler by ftp for a 386 dos machine?

	please E-Mail: pfrants@cs.vu.nl
Newsgroups: alt.lang.ml
From: najork@cs.uiuc.edu (Marc Najork)
Subject: Re: can this be implemented in O(1) space?
Organization: Delta Group
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:14:07 GMT

In article <1992Apr06.025126.33552@slate.mines.colorado.edu>, jgore@Mines.Colorado.Edu (Jacob Gore) writes:
> Consider the following function for computing x to the power of n:
> 
> fun power(x,n) =
>   if n=0 then 1.0
>   else if n mod 2 = 1 then x * power(x,n-1)
>   else power(x*x, n div 2);
> 
> What is the likelihood of an SML implementation doing it in O(1) space?
> 
> Jacob
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> <JGore@Mines.Colorado.Edu>	Colorado School of Mines
> 
> 	-- Member of the League for Programming Freedom --

If you transform this into a tail-recursive form, i.e.

        fun power(x,n) =
          auxpower(x,n,1.0);

        fun auxpower(x,n,res) =
          if n=0 then res
          else if n mod 2 = 1 then power(x,n-1,res*x)
          else power(x*x, n div 2,res);

then a good compiler should recognize that it is a tail-recursion, and
convert it into an iterative form, which would need constant space.

-- Marc Najork
Newsgroups: alt.lang.ml
From: spot@CS.CMU.EDU (Scott Draves)
Subject: Re: can this be implemented in O(1) space?
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 19:37:08 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Originator: spot@HOPELESS.MESS.CS.CMU.EDU

>>>>> On 6 Apr 92 02:51:26 GMT, jgore@Mines.Colorado.Edu (Jacob Gore) said:

Jacob> fun power(x,n) =
Jacob>   if n=0 then 1.0
Jacob>   else if n mod 2 = 1 then x * power(x,n-1)
Jacob>   else power(x*x, n div 2);

Jacob> What is the likelihood of an SML implementation doing it in O(1) space?

well, i don't know the internals of any SML implementations, but one
would assume that the answer is 0% due to the non-tail recursive call
in the second case.  you can easily rewrite the function so that most
compilers will take O(1) space: 

 fun power(x,n,r) : int =
   if n=0 then r
   else if n mod 2 = 1 then power(x,n-1,x*r)
   else power(x*x, n div 2,r);

call it with r=1
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From: jgore@Mines.Colorado.Edu (Jacob Gore)
Newsgroups: alt.lang.ml
Subject: can this be implemented in O(1) space?
Date: 6 Apr 92 02:51:26 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

Consider the following function for computing x to the power of n:

fun power(x,n) =
  if n=0 then 1.0
  else if n mod 2 = 1 then x * power(x,n-1)
  else power(x*x, n div 2);

What is the likelihood of an SML implementation doing it in O(1) space?

Jacob
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From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: alt.lang.ml
Subject: Re: annying warning message
Date: 6 Apr 92 12:00:59 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Friends of the Salter Duck
In-reply-to: mfx@cs.tu-berlin.de's message of 4 Apr 92 13:10:01 GMT

In article <MFX.92Apr4150949@marx.cs.tu-berlin.de> mfx@cs.tu-berlin.de (Markus Freericks) writes:

   - val [a,b] = [1,2];
   std_in:5.1-5.17 Warning: binding not exhaustive
	   a :: b :: nil = ...
   val a = 1 : int
   val b = 2 : int

The only alternative I can think of is

(OLD:) - val [a, b] = fred;

(NEW:) - val (a, b) = case fred of [a, b] => (a, b)
                                 | _ => raise SomeError fred;

Nick.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,alt.lang.basic
From: cs201139@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs201139)
Subject: GW Basic
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 20:04:33 GMT

What is the newest version of GW Basic? I know it sucks, but I have a program
that will only run under GW Basic and it would be best if I at least could
get my hands on the newest version. Please E-Mail me with your response!
From: peterk@public.sub.org (Peter Kittel)
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
Subject: Re: hot shot basic programmers
Date: 7 Apr 92 06:45:12 GMT
Organization: Public News & Mailserver, Commodore Germany PM UNIX, Frankfurt

lucifer@unlv.edu (Marco Westerweel) writes:

>I'm assuming that this is a news network for basic programmers. I say
>"assuming" because there doesn't seem to be anybody posting anything
>to it (?)...

Well, at least here is very minimal traffic.

>Does anyone know how to get GW basic or even quick basic to recognize
>the cursor keys as printable characters? This is possible only up to
>a degree with most IBM compatibles that I know of. 

Yes, to a degree. You can use CHR$(28) to CHR$(31) for the four cursor
directions. Don't know about other controls.

>The type of
>flexibility I am hoping for is the same as that which was possible on
>the Commodore 64 (now considered a dinosaur) in which entire arrays of
>different sized strings, with color definitions and screen location
>data all included in a single print command. It was possible to get
>very fast animation in basic that way. Its a powerful technique I've
>not been able to emulate on other machines.

Oh, you must have read my 20-liner in 64'er, didn't you???
Yes, you are right, this is a really powerful, *fast* and convenient
mechanism. I always miss it in the more "modern" dialects.
These screen editor capabilities were also a key experience how I got
passionated to PETs and CBMs (long before the C64). When I saw an Apple
or a Tandy those days with their crippled editors, I laughed heartily
and hurried back to the PET...

>Would it be possible to add machine code routines to basic which would
>enhance it to the point where the home, right, left, up, and down keys,
>and reverse on/off and color options could be included in string
>arrays? If so how is that done? Anybody out there? Thanx...

Well, with normal means you can do other routines in machine language,
callable as SUBs, but then this wouldn't be any different from the 
existing CLS, LOCATE commands. If you would like to change the PRINT 
command itself, then you would need to patch GWBASIC.EXE itself. 
Not easy, I guess.

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From: ajcoyne@vax1.tcd.ie
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
Subject: Re: PDS Basic!!
Date: 12 Apr 92 20:50:57 GMT
Organization: Trinity College Dublin

In article <5579@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx>, jpadres@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx (Jorge Padres Ballesteros) writes:
> Hi !
> i bought a book from peter norton ... and he talks about a PDS
> (profesional develpment system) basic ... and i want to know if someone
> heard about this ? or is this Basic for public Domain ?
> i just want to know more about iy

Microsoft Basic PDS is certainly not public domain.. it'll set you back
several hundred $$s.  It's worth it if you're programming seriously though,
it contains BC v7 (Basic Compiler) and QBX (Quick Basic Extended), an
enhanced QB environment.  They also through in lots of Basic code for
user interface, text mode windows, mouse etc., and Codeview, the MS
debugger.

-Aidan-
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
From: geeslin@vms.ocom.okstate.edu
Subject: Re: PDS Basic!!
Organization: College of Osteopathic Medicine, O.S.U.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:48:22 GMT

In article <5579@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx>, jpadres@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx (Jorge Padres Ballesteros) writes:
> Hi !
> i bought a book from peter norton ... and he talks about a PDS
> (profesional develpment system) basic ... and i want to know if someone
> heard about this ? or is this Basic for public Domain ?
> i just want to know more about iy

	I just got an ad from Microsoft advising me to purchase the
	PDS with QBX 7.1 before the end of the month.  Price was $99
	compared to the $495 I paid several years ago.  It's a great
	product.  I've never been sorry I got it!

R*

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From: beynon@nnn.crd.ge.com (Michael D. Beynon)
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
Subject: directory in basic
Keywords: dir
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:06:17 GMT
Reply-To: kolb@crd.ge.com
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady, NY

I don't know what version of basic you are using, but if you have access to
PDS 7.0+ you could use...

          F$ = DIR$("*.*")
          DO
             'process filename in F$ here

             F$ = DIR$
          LOOP UNTIL F$ = ""

If you don't have PDS 7.0+, all the other suggestions here work, but when I
did it, I wanted to have it all in basic.  I could dig up my code if you want
to see it, but it is a single subroutine that gives you all of the information
from the directory into a TYPEd array.
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
From: jrjohns@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHN RICHARD JOHNS)
Subject: Re: hot shot basic programmers
Organization: NCSU Project Eos
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 18:37:10 GMT

Actually, it *IS* possible to add movement, home, and clear screen commands
to your BASIC strings.  Get a copy of the ASCII table.  There are ASCII
characters that represent left, right, up, down, and clear/home (I'm not
sure about just HOME by itself).  I'm pretty sure that character 12 (which
is FORM FEED for printers) is the character you want.  Use
   A$=CHR$(12)
   ? A$
...and that should clear the screen, for example.  The unfortunate drawback
is that instead of having a special character appear in the string, you
have to stop in the string and reference the number code.  If you REALLY
want fast animation, I suggest you use screen pagination or extensive use
of the LOCATE command.

-John
From: RPT378@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
Subject: incrementing file names
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:55:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: MAINE.92104.095558RPT378
Organization: University of Maine System

I have gotten such great help from the readers of this forum lately, I thought
I would try for another.  I use a commercial program that produces an ASCII dat
a file after running.  I would like to automatically save this file under a sam
ple name and start the program again, from which another file OVERWRITES the fi
rst.  By saving under the sample name, the overwriting of the first file does n
o harm.  Then, the second file would be saved as, perhaps as FILE2.  So at the
end of the analyses, I would have a series of files, from FILE1, FILE2, FILE3..
..., each produced from a recursive run of the data collection program.  Any he
lp would be greatly appreciated.  (Either GWBasic or Quickbasic). THANKS! Larry
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
From: fredf@microsoft.com (Fred FREELAND)
Subject: Re: storing directory into an array
Date: 09 Apr 92 18:51:06 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

In article <1992Apr3.062548.7308@cc.uow.edu.au> dryan@cc.uow.edu.au (David Ryan) writes:
>				I was wondering if it were possible to shell 
>out to dos, do a directory listing, but then store that listing into an
>array so that I may have my way with the elements. The upshot of this being
>that I would like to display the dir listing in a column rather than the
>usual way that DOS does. By the way I am using Quickbasic 4.0.
>
Actually, what you can do is shell out to DOS, do a DIR and redirect the
results to a file using the > character. Then you can open the file and
strip off the excess garbage above and below the file list, and voila, you
have the data you need. You can parse it a line at a time and do anything
you like with the information.

Of course, the Microsoft Professional Development System 7.1 contains a
function (Dir$) which provides a much cleaner solution. But, that is
considerably pricier that and old copy of QuickBASIC you've got laying
around.

Hope this helps.

Viva la Basic!



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From: vlsi9218@dutentb.et.tudelft.nl (Practicum account 91/92)
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
Subject: Re: storing directory into an array
Date: 6 Apr 92 08:52:44 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering

I once wanted to have a dir-listing in an array and my solution was this:
I redirected the output of the dir command in a file and then I read the file
into an array I think like this:

SHELL "DIR >TMP.TXT"
OPEN "I",#1,"TMP.TXT"
WHILE NOT EOF(1)
	INPUT #1,ARRAY$(teller)
	teller = teller + 1
WEND
CLOSE #1

But maybe there are some errors in there, I just thought it up. But I hope
the general idea is clear.

Greetings,

Maarten Hofman.
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
From: edgarm@rs6204.ecs.rpi.edu (Marc Edgar)
Subject: Want to do Escher-like Drawings.
Keywords: Drawing, Basic, Escher
Reply-To: edgarm@rpi.edu
Organization: Rennselaer Polytechnic Institute.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:39:46 GMT

Greetings,

I am very interested in the art of M.C. Escher and have written 
a Quick Basic Program to help draw the interlocking figures.  You
know M.C. Escher right?  He is the one who has done drawings of
interlocking figures such as two flocks of birds flying in 
different directions with each bird exactly fitting into the others
like a jig-saw puzzle.

The program that I have written allows one to do the duplications 
and rotations automatically making this type of drawing much 
easier . . .  and a lot of fun.

WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR - is a shareware drawing program (preferably 
in basic) that I could add the routines to do Escher like drawings.
Does anyone know of a shareware drawing program and source that I
might be able to adapt?


Thanks in advance.

Marc Edgar
edgarm@rpi.edu