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From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,talk.politics.china
Subject: Re: 70,000 People Should Sue Shanoon Yeh, Seriously
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:18:10 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science

In article <Bw4xy8.KKw@nic.umass.edu> s9874203@titan.ucc.umass.edu (s9874203) writes:
>In article <Bw4L79.DCt@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li) writes:
>>
>>The following are copied from misc.jobs.contract. I seriously
>>believe Shanoon Yeh has gone too far. I believe he is guilty
>>of promoting discrimination and hatred. Please sue him. We
>>should let his company go bankruptcy now.
>>
>>The following is long.
>>
>>
>>
>
>[Shannon Yeh's post:]
>
>>Dear Employers in the US:
>>
>>Some thousands of Chinese nationals finally got their free grenn cards (i.e.
>>refugee) after they successfully sold their home country, China.  Those 
>>refugees are of no morality, and simply are liers: they declared that they 
>>faced danger to return to China, and I believe that everyone knows how 
>>dangerous to travel back and forth between here and China these days.
>>
>>I urge your company NOT to offer any privilege to those refugees when they
>>compete your comany's open position with other non-refugee candidates.  Your
>>cooperation will recover the damage made by those refugees, George Bush and 
>>other US legislators.  Thank you.
>>
>>Mr. Shannon T. Yeh
>>Irvine, California
>>
>>PS: I am not a student.  I just cannot tolerate those who raped justice.
>>
>
>Just stepped in. One question: what did Mr.Yeh mean by urging the
>companies not to offer any PRIVILEGE to those refugees ... (for complete
>sentence see above )?  I don't see where he asked the companies not to HIRE
>those refugees. Maybe my English is not good enough. Correct me if so.
No body dare to sue Mr. Yeh. Think about it:"Shannon T. Yeh Got sured for
smearing Democrate Fighter of Fraudulent deeds against China!"
, the big title, on major U.S. newspapers. Guess who is going to be the loser.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cyc@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Yi-Chieh Chang)
Subject: Re: Bush's "speech" in St. Louis
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:12:38 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.151203.8094@ac.dal.ca> poppy@ac.dal.ca writes:
>No war is popular if it is not against invasion and aggression.
>
>Anti-war feeling could be understood before the war starts.  In Canada,
>before the Gulf war, oppsition party leader was against the involvement of 
>Canadian soldiers.  When the parliament passed the resolution, Canadian
>CF-18 were sent to the Gulf, they all united and supported the soldiers in
>the Gulf.
>
>The Chinese-Vietnam war was not a popular one.  However, the soldiers who
>was fighting for their country did deserve a moral support from their fellow
>citizens. 
>

If you don't support some one or some one's idea, will that always imply
you don't respect that person ? While people may support or against a
war, but will this have anything to do with respect or not respect the
soldiers ? After all, every one knows that soldiers didn't make their
decision, politicians did. Smart (and usually bad) politicians always tried 
to confuse people by linking completely irrelevant issues to make
people forget about the bad things. One should use it's intelligence to 
remove the clouds. If a war is bad it is always bad no matter who is
engaging it. And people only against a war not the soldiers who engaged the
war by order.

Yi-Chieh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cyc@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Yi-Chieh Chang)
Subject: Re: Bush's "speech" in St. Louis
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:56:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.102921.8086@ac.dal.ca> poppy@ac.dal.ca writes:
>I think President Bush was refering Gov. Clinton was against his own country
>in a foreign land when U. S. was at war (though the war is not justified).
>I don't think these Chinese students here in U. S. would likely be against
>their homeland when China were at war with a foreign country.
>
>BTW, I believe most politicians are of dirty-mind.  It is too naive to ask
>a politician for a moral issue. 

Can you tell how many overseas Chinese students supported PRC's war with
Vietnan last time ?

Yi-Chieh

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: ezez@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Eric E. Zhang)
Subject: Couldn't work out! Try again!
Summary: Couldn't work out! Try again!
Keywords: Couldn't work out! Try again!
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:16:27 GMT

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: mece2az@rosie.uh.edu (Sun, Xiaohua)
Subject: Re: for your sake
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:19:00 GMT

In article <2AD99229.24089@news.service.uci.edu>, yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh) writes...
>i consulted a couple of people, and they told me that the blood cardd for
>blood carders could not 100% guranteed.  And obviously, we 9201 people do 
>not like to end the fights right now.  (By the way, some blood carders
>used many rude words with me after they thought they finally got their
>blood cards.)
> 
>So, don't count your blood card as the sure thing.  We 9201 people will use
>whatever resource we have to bring this fight to the very end.
> 
>shannon
>-------
 I really enjoy your Chinese postings. Would you please write your message
 all in Chinese? I mean, fron now on until the "very end" please.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yy7085@eehp10 ()
Subject: Zhao Ziyang & Crash
Summary: good and bad news
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:41:05 GMT
Keywords: 2 news of today


Two news heard on radio this morning :
  1) The investigation on Zhao Ziyang has been closed and it's now confirmed
    that he won't be put on trail as people widely expected before;
  2) An Airplane crashed in Lanzhou. Fourteen people died and nine of them
    were French.
From: lix@bashful.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: 9201 people will be more active
Date: 12 Oct 92 02:28:32 GMT
Organization: Boston University

In article <2AD8DD21.24977@news.service.uci.edu> yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh) writes:
>(deleted)

Well, I respect your freedom of speech and your courage to speak. However, please
no one step more than that. If you have done something which may hurt a lot of people
without discrimination, I suggest you apology in both news groups. It is quite
different to say something on SCC-land or to accuse people without evidence in
a job-related newsgroup.

I hate to do this, but I hope no one might be hurt. This is a friendly advice.

-- 
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organization to raise money promoting the education in rural China. All donations
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
From: chyang@metonymy.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: Re: ROC VS. PROC
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 23:02:37 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: chyang@metonymy.engin.umich.edu


In article <Bw8nKy.Eo@ulowell.ulowell.edu>, cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
> In article <lduf3fINNrvt@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) writes:
> >In article <Bw86JK.5A8@cs.psu.edu> jyw@phys.psu.edu (Jin-Yuan Wu) writes:
> >>>According to CCTV news Monday, the Beijing subway has been extended,
> >>>from Fusinmem to Xidan, "1.81 KM". It was descrided as a major
> >>>technical break-through.
> >>a sub-way is built under a crowed city without disturbing the normal
> >>city operation through messy city tube, cable net system, the 
> >>problem is non-trivial.
> >>
> >The subway tunnel is way below all the utility pipe, cable, ...etc.
> >The subway construction in Shanghai under a French company is using modern
> >equipments that is more efficient. The 1.81 KM tunnel according to French 
> >is just peanuts. Beijing is not the first city in the world built with
> >subway, but Beijing likes man power than machine.:-) 
> >
> >The hidden message of difficult part might be: they had to prevent the
> >collapse of Mao's tunnel which was intended for nuclear shelter.:-)
> >Note: Mao challenged the US in 1965 for a nuclear war. Again, Mao tried
> >to put 50% of Chinese people into sleep in his strategy.:-)
> 
> Beijing kicked YangRen butts, Taibei kissed them.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	What is this supposed to mean????!!!!  Care to explain? 
What does building transportation systems have to do with "Butt Kissing".

	Maybe I forgot to read that chapter in my elementry school book.

- C. H. Yang
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ba.jobs.offered
From: han@eddy.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Hang Zhu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan,
Subject: Job Opportunity
Date: 10 Oct 1992 04:43:28 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: eddy.cfm.brown.edu

Keywords: 

     Two positions are available at Gifford Fong Associate, Inc.
The ideal person should have a MS in Applied Math or Computer Science.

   SKILL REQUIREMENT: 

        Be familiar with C++ programming language,
   MS window or X-window,  Database and SQL.  ---  Salary competitive !!

Gifford Fong Associate is a financial institution which provides sophistiated
softwares for trading and also consults the major Banking/Insurance companies.
      
     Interested person should send his/her RESUME to 


           Recruiting Personnel
           Gifford Fong Associate
           1600 Riviera Ave
           Wanut Creek, CA 94596

Attn:  PLEASE DO NOT REPLY to this account, I am only posting for 
       a friend of mine!
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: hl2a@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Haiyan  Liu)
Subject: Re: Teaching in China:Info needed
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 23:36:13 GMT

Here is some addresses in Hangzhou, the heaven on earth:

	Mr. Qi, Yunfang or Chariman of
	Department of English
	Zhejiang University
	Hangzhou, PRC  300027 


	English Department
	Hangzhou University
	Hangzhou, PRC

	
	English Department
	Zhejiang Silk institute
	Hangzhou, PRC

	English Department
	Zhejiang Technical Institute
	Hangzhou, PRC

	English Department
	Zhejiang Agriculture University
	Hangzhou, PRC

You can send them your resume and ask a teaching job directly.  They
would reply to you whether they accept you or not.
Good luck!
From: aguo@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (aihua guo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: who knows MATLAB
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:07:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.Bw2t8I.AE0
Organization: Indiana University

In article <00961BE7.98FE5B00@Eagle.oscs.montana.edu>
icmgr090@Eagle.oscs.montana.edu writes: 
>I'm a new graduate student in Dept.of Chem.Engr.,In my Maths class,
>we use a lot of MATLAB,but I know nothing about it.Who used it before?
>Can you help me?

We in the department of economics here in the University of Chicago also
use MATLAB as a main computation program. It is very good and versatile.
I think you can definitely find manual in your computer lab. Its syntax
is very much like that of Fortran. But it treats the variable as a matrix.
Also the graphic function is excellent, it can do 2D and 3D, as well as
contour graphing. I do not know what your specific question is, hence 
I can only answer this all. BY the way there is also a PC version.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 01:44:34 EDT
From: <WXG101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Fax to Mr. Bush ...




>   Please be reminded
>   that ALL those Chinese students were sponsored by the Chinese government
>   when they were at colleges in China.
>
   GUESS WHERE THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT GOT THE MONEY TO SPONSOR THESE STUDENTS
FOR COLLEGE EDUCATION???

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: Tuya@ccmail.uoregon.edu
Subject: A Math Question
X-Vers: University of Oregon Version dmm-02 30-Oct-90
Posted-Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 16:32 EST
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:30:00 GMT

          Have you ever been to the vast deserts in Oregon, Idho,
          and Utah?  Looking at those places that are perhaps only
          good for A-bomb tests, I couldn't help raising a question:

          Suppose 100 pioneers start a trip from Boston to Oregon or
          S.F., for their survival, how many of them will reach the
          west coast in the end, and what kind of people will they be
          like?

          My guess is that about 5 people can reach here.  The
          confirms with the population distribution in the U.S.

          How will they look like?

          First of all, they must look like prisoners instead of
          cowboys, for the long march will have tortured them so much
          that they no longer care about their clothing, etc.  This
          probably explains why I always see people with bad clothing
          here.  Also more street persons.

          Second, they are not very smart, but boy they are tough.
          This is because on the way here, good job opportunities will
          have been grabbed by those who are smarter.  And the 5
          friends are alway late by a split of a second.  But if our 5
          friends were not tough, they would have joined the 10 who
          died on the way.  This is why I believe people on the west
          coast are tougher than those on the east coast.  Look at
          Zai4 Xia4, Pres. Reagon, and Shannon Yeh.  And compare us
          with Lix, Zhao Haiqing, etc.  In simple, we are talking the
          difference between Miss Beijing and Yi2 people in Da4 liang2
          shan1.

          The above historical fact decided we have more hippies,
          punks, and crabs here on the west coast.

          Tu Ya

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
From: mlibucha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Libucha)
Subject: Re: SURVEY -- Be Aware!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 03:23:08 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.152344.20342@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> tylee@austin.ibm.com (Ty Lee) writes:
>
>In article <1992Oct13.012951.19418@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mlibucha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Libucha) writes:
>> 
>> When you accuse others of ulterior motives please include your name with
>> your post. In fact, please repost this with your name appended. I mean for
>> all I know, you could be Jiang Zemin. Mr. Matloff deserves to know who's
>> sullying his name.
>> 
>
>Last month, there were skirmishes between two netters in the s.c.a.a.
>newsgroup about not using real name in the news item. For your benefit,
>you should check out what was talked there. 
>
>Since you are not this Matloff thing, you have no standpoint to guard him.
>Doesn't "schen" answer your cynical curiosity? Anyway, schen is by no
>means close to Jiang Zemin. And, why in the h*ck do you pick this particular
>communist Chinese official's name?
>
>
>> Mark Libucha (my name also appears in the header)
>> 
>-- 
>/* The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of IBM's.         *\
> * Take care and have a nice day.                                            *
>\* Ty Lee                                                                    */

I officially apologize to Mr. Chen for my comments to him. I swear his
name does not occur in postings on my machine, but I guess that's the
case for most others. Again, my apologies to J. Chen and anyone else who
was offended or confused by the original posting.

Mark


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From: 5546yuj@vms.csd.mu.edu (jinyu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Traditional vs Simplified Characters
Date: 13 Oct 1992 19:51:38 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 5546yuj@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsa.csd.mu.edu

>It is toltally unnecessary to create simplified characters. If you want to
>make Chinese easy to write , you can create some kind of alphabet like what
>Dr. Hu shi did . That will also make Chinese keying easier in computer.
>The standard characters has been used for 2000 years. Although it is a little
>bit harder for beginners to write than simplified character, it is beautiful
>and it makes sense for all Chinese dialects. Mainlanders were forced to use
>it and have been used to it while Taiwanese are still using standard characters
> Who is the separatist ? Who are destroying the integrity of China in the
>cultural aspects?  If military forces decide everything, those mainlanders who
>think it is important to keep China as genuine China(including territory) should
>be very happy about the F-16 sale to Taiwan so that a piese of genuine China
>will be preserved .

I am happy about f-16 sale to taiwan. Also happy about the word simplification.
It is very unfortunate that the simplification process was done in Mao's
time when enything traditional was to be trashed. 
We lost the chance to do it better.

A mainlaner.
From: tylee@austin.ibm.com (Ty Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Shannon's Bedroom (was Re: Shannon, Bush, and others)
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:27:56 GMT
Organization: IBM
Originator: tylee@leety.austin.ibm.com


In article <Bw2Bv5.CGF@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>, utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan) writes:
> In article <1992Oct12.203309.11139@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> tylee@austin.ibm.com (Ty Lee) writes:
> >
> >In article <1992Oct12.164356.15101@news.acns.nwu.edu>, usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns) writes:
> >> 
> ......
> >
> >Better yet, the toilet tissue is made out of Mao's books.
> >
> Shhhh, this is a crime of counter-revolution.
> 

I recall when in time of the Gulf war there were news about a tissue
company advertising a brand of tissue with the face of Saddam Hussein
printed on it.

We should do this on all of the despots around.

> Tingli Pan
-- 
/* The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of IBM's.         *\
 * Take care and have a nice day.                                            *
\* Ty Lee                                                                    */
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: ping@bnlux1.bnl.gov (Shiping Zhang)
Subject: Re: Fax to Mr. Bush ...
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:45:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.124301.892@unine.ch> Congzhong.Wang@info.unine.ch writes:
>In article <92286.014434WXG101@psuvm.psu.edu>, <WXG101@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>  
>>>   Please be reminded
>>>   that ALL those Chinese students were sponsored by the Chinese government
>>>   when they were at colleges in China.
>>>
>>    GUESS WHERE THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT GOT THE MONEY TO SPONSOR THESE STUDENTS
>> FOR COLLEGE EDUCATION???
>
>  No need to guess. From Chinese people, right? 
>  So, those students owe Chinese people, OK?

  If you are sure it's OK.

-ping

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: speckman@peanuts.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Heike Speckmann)
Subject: Visa for Tibet
Organization: "Lehrstuhl fuer Technische Informatik, Uni Tuebingen"
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 08:50:42 GMT

I am travelling to China in november and I could get a visa for china in
Germany. But it wasn't possible to get one for Tibet. Now here is my question:
I will try to get one in Bejing for Tibet. How I should make it. Please email

Heike Speckmann

PS: I will travel from Bejing to Tibet with a group.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: jyw@phys.psu.edu (Jin-Yuan Wu)
Subject: Re: Learn from Lei Feng
Organization: Penn State, Department of Physics
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:40:26 GMT


From psuvax1!psuvm!xxx100 Thu Oct  8 11:25:09 EDT 1992

[San1 Ren1 Xing2 Bi4 You3 Wu3 Shi1.]

	(There will be my teacher if three persons walk together. -- better
	translation is welcome. "Ren1" might be "Ren2")
	Perfect. This is what a Chinese needs. I like it very much. It is
	part of Chinese traditional value system.


From psuvax1!psuvm!xxx100 Thu Oct  8 11:25:09 EDT 1992

[The trouble with CCP was to destroy tranditional value system, ....
And it made a no-value-society ....]

	Destroying traditional value system is not good, 
	here someone is doing so:

In article <16115@mindlink.bc.ca> Sanyee_Tang@mindlink.bc.ca (Sanyee Tang) 
writes:
[    I thought a couple of netters got their memory of Lei Feng at grade 5,
but someone seems to have it much early, in the kindergarten.  No wonder
they only remember Lei Feng as a good-doer :-).]

[  However, what adults sang when they learnt from
Lei Feng?  I still remember, _partially_, some sang frequently broadcast.]

(see original)

	Good-doing IS part of our traditional value system, isn't it?
	Anyone can hold any political points of view. Having different
	political points of view does not change the fact that good-doing
	is good. 

	Just look through this net. We see many CSS sharing 
	cooking information. Anyone can get this help when (s)he reads the
	netnews. The contributors did not expect to recieve any pay back
	for helping others. This is one kind of good-doing. CSS on this
	net have far different of political points of view, but it dose
	not change the fact that these contributors are doing good.

	We can get this kind of unselfish helps, non-money-related helps
	because we are not money-making machines, because we are not
	naive animals, because we are human being. Selfishness has its
	origin in the evolution of human being, but it is not the nature
	of the human being. Unselfishness is the nature of the civilized
	human being, which helps human being becoming civilized.

	I do not laugh at anyone. So I do not understand why some persons
	keep laughing at Lei Feng, Yue Fei, and even all Chinese people.
	It is not funny at all. Nobody get respected or smart looking 
	by laughing at others. 

	According to Chinese tradition, attacking or laughing at persons
	doing good is Zao4 Nie4 (doing evil). I am sure many CSS learnt
	this when they were very young.

	If the disagreement toward Lei Feng comes from political bias, 
	just as what have been mentioned earlier, it is not necessary.
	I think we should have a common ground: good-doing is good.


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