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From: "micky wong" <micky.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: address for ming poa mont
Reply-To: "micky wong" <micky.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 2 Jan 93 15:13:10 EST

In Article: <86050@ut-emx.uucp>
   Subject: Address for Ming Poa Monthly
      From: cwlng@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu writes:


>Would someone please give the address for Ming Poa Monthly in Hong Kong.
>Either post or e-mail is fine. Thanks.

>Chris
>cwlng@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

The address of Ming Pao Monthly is:

    15/F., Block A. 18 KA YIP St.
       MING PAO INDUSTRIAL CENTRE.
       CHAI WAN,  HONG KONG

       Tel: 595-3192, 595-3073
       FAX: 898-2566.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: kxd5425@usl.edu (Du Kaisheng)
Subject: Re: economy of hong kong and
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Distribution: soc
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 03:46:27 GMT

>What CCP has done to HK may have helped DPP wining support in Taiwan, 
>especially in this election. Few CCP members truely understand democracy, and 
>few of them have the vision to the future.
>Obvious examples are student leaders of 6/4. Most of the hope 
>turn out to be disappointment. All CCP members should face 
>the fact that CCP can not last long. You need to learn how to govern people
> from others, instead of imposing your rubbish CCP standard to others. One of
> my friends just went to China with his father, who left his hometown 50 years
> ago. Everything is worse than 50 years ago. There is no new road, and the
> roads built by KMT are not maintained at all. Many mainlanders have no sense
> of truth. They have been cheated so badly that they can't even recover 
>conscience after they came to the states.
>
>What HKites are doing/have done is years ahead of mainlanders. What happen in
>HK will happen in mainland. A democratic HK can help accelerate the advance of
>democracy in mainland. It's a win-win situation for all Chinese.
>
>Gavin

I felt hard to understand those arrogant people of Hongkong.  They alwayse
think they are superior to their mainland fellow countrymen. From the argument
above I failed to see anything enlightening but the attitude of a person tellinghis inferior what to do. Kind of like you mainlanders are all from such a poor
place and are all brain-washed by CCP (whatever related to CCP will have to be
evil.  If someone happenes to have the same opinion with CCP, he's got to be
something evil too) and you must be trained to be stupid.  Since we are so
many years ahead of you in education, you just don't understand what we are 
doing.  Just shut your month and watch.  I'll show you what is democracy
and how we do things as a group of people with education, or better education.

The final word I want to say is that to give democracy to a people with such
a biased mind like you is dangerous.  Do you think it is now your turn to
educate people from mainland since British people will leave after educating
you for more than 100 years?


du




Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: Santa_Claus@Iceland.org
Subject: Merry Christmas!
Originator: Santa_Claus@Iceland.org
Organization: Gifts...
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 20:01:50 GMT

Everybody, Merry Christmas!

HO HO HO!
From: jturley@netcom.com (James Turley)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: A plea for courtesy
Date: 25 Dec 92 02:13:41 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


Here Here!  I agree. Every one here seems to be at each other's throats.
Like Serbians and Croatoans...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William W. Lo)
Subject: Words of wisdom for the day 
Organization: IBM Australia/ACCI 
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 01:39:58 GMT

	William's {answering machine} series continues:

	"Hello there. This's Diana's answering machine, Sandra,
and I'm soooo depressed... I have 50,000 times the memory capacity 
of my owner, but all I get to do is answer the phone. Ai, life!
Don't talk to me about life... Just leave your name and number 
after the beep. <Beep>" 

---Did I post my very high-tech {virtual} X-card here? Anyway, guys,
   have a swell time this Christmas, 
	William
### Welcome to William's Huggie Dictionary ###
Cigarette, n.: A fire at one end, a *fool* at the other, and a bit 
   of tobacco in between. See {bloody cigarette s_ckers}, {drug
   addicts}.  

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William W. Lo)
Subject: Words of wisdom for the day 
Organization: IBM Australia/ACCI 
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:23:08 GMT

	I have to post double today becuz I didn't do
it yesterday.

	William's {answering machine} series continues:

	"Hi! You have reached 123-4567! Unforturnately, no
one is available to speak to you right now becuz we're probably
not here or don't feel like picking up the phone. If you're a
burglar, we've got two hungry Dobermans downstairs for your
convenience. Thanks for calling. <Beep>"

---:-)
	Uncle Jazzy	
### Welcome to William's Huggie Dictionary ###
VAX: /vaks/ n. 1. [Stands for _V_irtual _A_ddress e_X_tension] 
   According to William's *DEAN*-lecturer Professor Cliff Somebody in
   a Computer Architecture lecture last semester: "It's the most
   successful minicomputer design in industry history", probably
   *excepting* its immediate ancestor, the PDP-11. Between its release
   in 1978 and its eclipse by {killer micro}s after about 1986, the VAX
   was probably the hacker's favourite machine of them all, esp.
   after the 1982 release of 4.2 BSD UNIX (see {BSD}).  Esp.
   noted for its large, *assembler-programmer-friendly* instruction set
   - an asset that became a liability after the RISC revolution!!!
   2.  A major brand of vacuum cleaner in Britain :) It was claimed
   that DEC actually entered a cross-licensing deal with the vacuum-Vax
   people that allowed them to market VAX computers in the U.K. in
   return for not challenging the vacuum cleaner trademark in the 
   U.S. :-)
   (NB: Hehee, just for fun and definitely NO offense intended)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: y70q@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (LAM)
Subject: I can't stand it
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 05:43:36 GMT

On Fri, 25 Dec 1992, Lim Choon Hoe wrote:

>>> If you really have open mind and forgiving mind, why aren't
>>> you forgetting 6-4 event??  Why aren't you giving CURRENT
>>> Chinese Communists a chance to change themself??  As far as
>>> I know, China is improving.  Where is your generosity to
>>> forgive?
>>
>>Sorry, but I am not a God. I cannot forgive everything.
>>Can you forgive everyone in the world?
>>
>
>No one is a god**, which means, you are a hypocrite and immoral
>Well, most hongkong people are like you anyway.  You deserve
>to be ruled under communism.
>Hongkong is well know for a notorious place, under this
>circumstance, hongkong is best to be controlled by
>communism, you deserve it.

Sorry, you are wrong.

>At least I try, one thing I would never do is, like you,
>saying how "open mind, forgiving mind" you are and never
>even try.
>**you must be stupid to think that I want you to be a god.

Under the current political circumtance, is it useful for HK
to do anything to show that HK people do not forgive China?

>>> By the way, I do not like communism even a bit, but I do
>>> not want to keep accusing CCP when there are improvements,
>>> I just don't think you are fair.
>>
>>I never say that I am extremely neutral. I am only trying to be
>>not as extreme as possible.
>>I never say that I am extremely neutral. I am only trying to be
>>not as extreme as possible.
>>About CCP, I am not only seeing the 6-4 event. There are a lot of
>>things going on besides the 6-4 event that make me question about
>>CCP, such as corruption.
>>Thanks for your attention, and have a good day!
>
>Since you are not neutral and anti-communism, well, you
>deserve to be attacked by pro-communism, don't you grumble,
>in case you don't know what grumble means, don't you
>complain

I would be a lier if I told you that I am a neutral person.
.
>You think hongkong is not corrupted, I would laugh at you
>if you say no corruption.  If you think the degree of
>corruption is less than china, I would laugh at you too.

Don't laugh, because you are wrong.

>hongkong is given chance to become rich (but lot of
>corruptions), china people are more smarter than hongkong people,
>in the past, they were not given chance to become rich,
>however, they are given the opportunities now, why did you
>want to rock the boat.  Anyone would agree to eliminate a
>person who is sinking the survival boat in the ocean,
>regardless of their political stands.  The same situation is
>applied to hongkong now.  China would not hesitate to eliminate
>hongkong if hongkong poses a threat.  If hongkong is destroyed, you
>would be a criminal.

You statement doesn't make sense.

I don't even want to argue to such an unreasonable person.
Anyway, it's still holiday, I do not want to argue more on this.A
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: 91066702@cphkvx.cphk.hk
Subject: Lan Kwai Fong Tragedy
Organization: The Ohio State University; Department of Phyiscs
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 12:56:36 GMT

This year may not be a good one.

Right at the start, we have a tragedy in Central, Lan Kwai Fong, which you
might have heard already.

We now know 20 died and 63 injured from news report. The main cause of this
tragedy is people are too high celebrating.

At around 00:05, 1992.12.31, Lan Kwai Fong, which is a place famous for bars
and pubs went into chaos. Over 15000 people gathered in Lan Kwai Fong, and when
the time came for the new year count down, people crowded together became to
loose control. As a result, more and more fell down, and most of them were
stepped on, leading to this new year tragedy.

Among the 20 victims, 3 of them are foreign people, with 2 caucasians and 1
Japanese, all of the three are male.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: xxmok@utagraph.uta.edu (xxmok)
Subject: Re: Chart 1993.1.3
Organization: University of Texas at Arlington
 this just a test !
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 08:12:51 GMT

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Monday, 21 Dec 1992 09:50:00 EST
From: Mary Y. Tsang <MTSHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: REPOST: schkers NYC gathering on Jan. 1, 1993

Hi folks,

    Have you gotten sick and tired talking to each other without seeing the
real person?  Or have you ever wondering the person who posted an interesting
article is really a fun and interesting person?  Or maybe you think you have
a pretty/handsome face and feel wasted when the only thing/person that can
see you is a computer screen.  Yeah!  It is about time to come out of solitude.

    For the Folks who are living/studying/working/hanging around at the Tri-
state area ( NY/NJ/CN ), if you would like to meet each other and have a good
time during this one of a kind holiday season in NYC,  I am willing and crazy
enough to be the central correspondent of this great event.  What I am planning
to do now is to find out how many of you will like to join us.  If we have
enough people, then we can plan for the activities.  The tentative day for the
gathering is on New Year's Eve (Thursday) and the place is NYC.  Anyone who
are interested may contact me.  I will surely do my best to satify your needs.

    BTW, you should never never never underestimate the capabilities of the
women of the 90's!!!!

Mary

p.s.  Folks from other areas are also welcomed.

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From: henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: comfort girls?
Date: 31 Dec 92 02:12:44 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1992Dec30.4301.22039@dosgate> "micky wong" <micky.wong@canrem.com> writes:
>
>Japanese government had finally but reluctantly admitted the existance
>and the crimes committed by the then Japanese Imperial Army towards those
>Korea "comfort women", this is after repeated and persistent pressure
>from the victims and the South Korea Government.

The Japanese government admitted to the existance of comfort women during the
"Pacific War" and unless I'm wrong, they haven't admitted to responsibility or
made a formal apology on the matter.

Does anyone remember what Unit 781 did?


-- 
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space cow invading St. Canard -Dark Wing Duck

HenryC@Panix.Com
From: antbh@strix.udac.uu.se (Bernhard Helander)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.iranian,sci.anthropology
Subject: Pointer -> Somalia News Update No 45
Date: 30 Dec 92 12:50:08 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
NNTP-Posting-Host: strix.udac.uu.se

Somalia News Update No 45 has just been posted on several groups (e.g.
soc.culture.african). Direct subscriptions available on e-mail request.
From: rajesh@ivy (Rajesh Raman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: What does this mean ?
Date: 29 Dec 1992 00:58:51 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: ivy.wpi.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Ahmet Arman (aarman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:

:  O you who believe! take not the jews and the christians as friends. They are friends to one another. Whoever of you befriends them is one of them, ALLAH doesnot guide  the people who do evil.
: 

   Guys, what does this mean ?
--

Rajesh Raman

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From: banerjee@aludra.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Difference
Date: 25 Dec 1992 19:03:08 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Vijay writes,

>>In article <1992Dec25.072430.36325@slate.mines.colorado.edu> imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes:
>>> If you dont like my articles , you can skip them instead of calling
>>> me names.
>>I dont seem to be getting enough of them. Ah yes, it's that lobotomized
>>brain of yours. What, they removed everything and transplanted it with
>>a toad brain (yes,yes I know how you hate toads)? How awful!!
>
>	Whaddya mean "removed everything"? There was a big signboard over
>	there which said, "Lots of empty space for rent".


I know it's Christmas night and you have been nipping on that cooking sherry
again, but still is that reason enough to loose your perspective. Big and
Mustafa Ibrahim's brain....that's as good an oxymoron as any I have seen.

Look who we are talking about here. Mustafa Ibrahim, the same guy who by
comparison makes Nimmala seem like the Richard Feynmann of SCI, who makes 
Suresh Doki's one liner's seem almost intellectual and whose presence on the
net led to so many kill files that his systems admin. had him use the
following as a standard disclaimer:

"a strong stomach and incredible patience are no substitute for a well
maintained kill file especially where I am concerned. Kill files...the
condoms of SCI"

Actually there were a few small cracks :) and a note from the HAZMAT
team who had cleaned up that there had been a leak at this "Federal Toxic 
Dump site" and all the vapor phase matter (picogram amounts) that formed
the core of Mustafa's brain had escaped.

-- 
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University of Southern California,	| If you take yourself too seriously, 
Internet  banerjee@aludra.usc.edu       | you will be only one who does.
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From: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Pakistan is lilbit different from Israel
Date: 28 Dec 1992 12:54:55 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: pageboy.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Dec27.171102@IASTATE.EDU> jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan) writes:
>>In article <ljs5nmINN942@pageboy.cs.utexas.edu>, hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan
>Hyder) writes:
>> In article <1992Dec26.222747@IASTATE.EDU> jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed
>Khan) writes:
>> >
:: :
:: :Was it a referendrum on the creation of Pakistan?
:: :
:: 
:: It was a refrendum on whether Muslim League represents the  Muslims
:: of subcontinent or not. The vote clearly demonstrated that indeed
:: Muslim League is the representative of the aspiration of the Muslims
:: of subcontinent. As to what the aspirations were, read the slogans
:: and manifesto on which M.L. contested the elections. Note objective
:: resolution of M.L. of 1940 was not a secret in 1946!

:There is a certain fallacy in the assumption being made. 
:

Your fallacy has a severe flaw. The analogy doesn't go far enough.
No court ever decided that partition of subcontinent was illegal :)

You see in analogies there is alwasy a pitfall.


:As an example there is a very recent event which will bring out the fallacy 
:in the argument:
:
:The BJP govt. in Uttar Pradesh (U.P.) came to power in the state on the sole
:plank of demolishing (which they ephemistically refered to as reloctaing) the
:mosque and building a Temple to Lord Ram in its place. They won with
:overwhelming majority in the state which saw the Congress being wiped out. The
:BJP govt. publicly claimed that since it came to power on the plank that they
:would build the temple at the very site the Babri masjid stood, the courts had
:no jurisdiction in the matter. They claimed that Hindus(presumably) had voted to
:bring down the mosque and build a temple there and was as good as a 
:referendum, as far as they were concerned.
:
:Obviously the central govt. and the courts thought otherwise.
:
:
:The point is that the fact that the ML won in muslim majority provinces in that
:election you refer to cannot serve as a referendum on the creation of Pakistan
:simply because that was not a referendum. It was a vote to elect a govt, for 
:the provinces and not the formation of Pakistan.
:
:
:--Javed.


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From: banerjee@hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Difference
Date: 27 Dec 1992 21:48:21 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: hsc.usc.edu

In article <1992Dec28.023004.25081@slate.mines.colorado.edu> imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes:

>What else can an itching dog do ? :-))))))))))))))

What a pathetic rejoinder!! Frankly, I am ashamed and had Pavlov been here
he would have promptly disowned you.

Even Nimmala (God rest his soul) overcame his intellectual handicaps to put up
a better performance. He at least knew when to go ballistic with his limited
"four letter words only" vocabulary.

I take it from your wimpy oneliner that you flunked Obedience 101
during your stint in the Canine Corps. Well now is a good time as any.

"Mustafa doggie, sit down and chill out".  Good doggie.

-- 
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University of Southern California   |  A man who smiles when things go wrong,
Internet: banerjee@scf.usc.edu      |  has found somebody to blame it on.
Bellnet : (213) 342-1401            |  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan)
Subject: re: Pakistan is lilbit different from Israel
Reply-To: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 22:44:08 GMT




==========================================================================
khan@ces.cwru.edu (Mansoor Khan) writes:

>I'm not disputing the fact that the people of India and Pakistan belonged to
>pre-partition India. I am disputing the ideology that resulted in the creation
>of these religion inspired countries. 
	Hey dude, You may not like Pakistan, and that is OK.	Pakistan
	was not darling of All Indian Muslims. Neither it is today.
	But please dont start playing with words. Pakistan has nothing
	in common with Israel. Please refer to Mustafa Syed
===========================================================================




Well if what I write irritates you, don't take the trouble of replying. 
Go ahead add my name to your kill file.

regards,

--Javed.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: ahussain@prism.poly.edu (Arshad Hussain)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Just Curious
Date: 31 Dec 92 17:56:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York


Where is Arun Gupta????? 

Arshad Hussain
From: rbc1878@zeus.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Why Gandhi Wore A Pamper !
Date: 25 Dec 1992 23:56 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.tamu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Now I know why Gandhi wore a pamper !

BECAUSE he was one of the a PDM (Protein Deficient Morons)... or vegeterian.

----Rizwan 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
Subject: Private Education in Pakistan
Reply-To: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 27 Dec 92 22:44:56 EST

 
 Mansoor Khan <khan@alpha.ces.cwru.edu> said the following to 
 faraz.rabbani@canrem.com :
 
 >Well...  While you are talking about the state of education in
 >Pakistan.  Let me give you another example: it is possible, at an
 >expense of around 20,000 rupees to buy totally complete (academic
 >record, legitimate transcripts, etc.) degrees from Pakistani
 >universities... sad, but very true...

 UG> 	Well, that i guess is a problem.  What is the solution? any idea?
 
It merely reflects the unhealthy state of education in Pakistan.
The problem is the rampant corruption and simply the moral decay
that has resulted from corrupt and abusive use of power by those who
wield it.  It is now spreading to all aspects of society and, more
worryingly, being accepted the the way to do things...
 
 MK> Pakistan needs mass education. How we are gonna get money
 MK> to do this. Take money from people like Navaz Sharif( who took
 MK> out billions of loans from Govt. Banks during Zia's time and never
 MK> returned a paisaa) and Zardari( who collected 10%) and
 MK> Gauhar Ayub( future President of Pakistan who was the biggest
 MK> rishvat khore of 60's) and open schools in Jehlum, Tharparkar,
 MK> and haripur. There is enough money in Pakistan, but it is
 MK> stolen by Shiyateens.

 UG> And we do not collect taxes from the higher classes...
 UG> 	Yes, officially zamindars donot pay taxes.
 UG> 	Industrialists are suppose to, but even they cheat.
 UG> 	What is the solution. Let us discuss this on the net.
 
Even those industrialist who want to pay taxes don't pay all of
them, since their competition does not either, and if THEY did, it
would render them uncompetitive... Bribery rules the day...

Faraz Rabbani, faraz.rabbani@canrem.com

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