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From: Paul_Trauth@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Paul Trauth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Looking for NON-trackers...
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:10:46 GMT
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

In a message dated Wed  8 Apr 92 06:17, C503719@umcvmb.missouri.edu (baird 
wrote:
 C>           Paul_Trauth@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Paul Trauth) said:
 C> |What I'd *really* like to find, but am afraid i'm probably going to
 C> have to
 C> |code myself, is a player that'll let me do stuff like this:
 C> |voice 0 sequence: patt 0 patt 2 patt 2 patt 7 ...
 C> |voice 1 sequence: patt 1 patt 5 patt 6 patt 1 ...
 C> |voice 2 sequence: patt 9 patt 9 patt 9 patt 9 ...
 C> |voice 3 sequence: patt 8 patt A patt B patt B ...
 C> |where each pattern is for -one voice only-.

 C> I suggested this to Teijo (MED) Kinnunen, but I don't guess he's added
 C> that
 C> feature yet.  For that matter, he may not have received my suggestion.
 C> Anyway, you'll have to write it yourself most likely.  As I say, it's
 C> a
 C> feature I've thought about, but never seen a program that does it.  It
 C> would
 C> be Tracker-incompatible, of course.
Of course! This is what i'm LOOKING for, why i started this thread - i
don't cara about tracker compatibility in the least, i care about
*results*.

i've been sitting around designing. it's almost to the point where if i
want to do anything more, i'm going to HAVE to take the big plunge and
start coding. Eep. This is gonna be fun, as it's my first attempt at sound
programming...
i've got the entire data format figured out. it's quite compact. there's
room for future expansion, such as the currently undefined SYNTH command
for playing with synth instruments. there's a few completely unused command
values for new ideas. the note format is solid - you can get the full range
of periods, not just three octaves. the voice sequence format is defined.
i've even come up with a workable editor interface. there's alomst no paper
work left to do. aargh. now: can i put my proverbial money where my mouth
is and produce this? ...dunno.

but any future developments WILL be announced in this, and other,
newsgroups. (hmmm. c.s.a.music, c.s.a.mods if it's created,
c.s.a.programmer, c.s.a.games, c.s.a.demos.... that about covers it i
think.)

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From: C503719@UMCVMB.MISSOURI.EDU (Baird McIntosh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: REVERB mods/meds
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:18:56 GMT
Organization: The Synthy EuroTechnoWack Beat, Inc.

Well I downloaded all 10 of the REVERB mods and meds uploaded on April 10
to ab20 -- [ oh ab20!  Why oh why must you go!  :-/ ] -- and I have comments
on a few.  I actually listened to them over the weekend, and I can't
remember all the ones I liked.  Anyway:

Halcyon.MED -- I like this, but I looked up 'halcyon' in the dictionary :-)
               and I think it said that halcyon can mean PLEASANT or AT EASE.
               Well, those very cool pitch bend effects in this song don't
               set me at ease.  They make me uneasy and in me the song
               evokes low intensity feelings of loneliness or maybe despair.
               But maybe that's just the way I try to cast any song I hear.
               :-)  I liked this one, Reverb.

Serendipity.med -- This one is different because it uses a long sample for
               the guitar background and a sustaining, looping sample for the
               distorted guitar.  This song is further from typical Amiga
               music than most.  The drum line is VERY well done.  I like it!

mod.FunkyGunn -- Well, the Art of Noise did their version, and now we have
               Reverb's version.  I can't remember a lot about this mod,
               except the Gunn Theme was well done.  But I do remember I
               liked it.

I'm sorry I can't remember any of the others, but I think there were some
more I liked.  Well done.

| Baird McIntosh , c503719@umcvmb.missouri.edu <-or-> c503719@umcvmb.bitnet |
|    "Love:  you can't start it like a car;                                 |
|            you can't stop it with a gun." -- spoken by David Letterman    |
From: Barry_Fence@mindlink.bc.ca (Barry Fence)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Miracle Keyboard
Date: 12 Apr 92 18:25:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: mindlink.11386
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

Has anyone here had any experience with the Miracle Keyboard System for the
Amiga? (I hear the there are also versions for the Mac, IBM and Nintendo.) I
would be interested in any feedback about the above.
Barry
From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: SITES FOR MODS? (now that ab20 is shutting down)
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:05:40 PST
Organization: TAP, NZAmigaUG

Quoted from <1992Apr7.051032.6624@wam.umd.edu> by mp@wam.umd.edu (Martha Elizabeth Phillips):

> (if any) other sites are storehouses for all kinds of Ami stuff??  Thanx!

    U. Dominik Mueller (XPK) posts an article fairly often about a site
    he's associated with being available for ftp. I guess that would be:

        amiga.physik.unizh.ch
--
*** John Bickers, TAP, NZAmigaUG.        jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz ***
***    "Radioactivity - It's in the air, for you and me" - Kraftwerk    ***
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: cs911275@juno.ariel.yorku.ca ()
Subject: DMCS score ---> Postscript printer.
Originator: cs911275@juno.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:36:24 GMT


I would like to know if there exists a program that could convert a DMCS score
to a format that could be printed on a Postscript printer. If there is one
would somebody tell me what it is and where I could get it. Thank you.

Please mail responses to me.
From: kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (KodaK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Call for discussion and Vote for comp.sys.amiga.audio.binaries
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:19:28 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center


Okay, everyone has been upset about AB20 shutting down (which I am one :( )
so here's what we do... We create a .binaries to supliment this newsgroup
the 'rules' say we must discuss the creation of the group for something 
like two weeks and then have a vote...  Would anyone like to be in charge?
(I only read this group occasionaly)  Let the discussion begin:

Why do we NEED comp.sys.amiga.audio.binaries?

--Jason Balicki
kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
From: stimpsn@bbs.orion.bison.mb.ca (Gary Stimpson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: MOD newsgroup debate: PLEASE READ!
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:17:54 GMT
Organization: The Orion Unix System [A/UX 2.0.1], Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

ccjy@bristol.ac.uk (APATHY=) writes:
 
<some deleted>
 
> I don't want to argue with my own group members.......BUT =8*)
> What is the point of having a storage of MODS from usenet if the main point
> of setting this up was that there were people who couldn't use ftp in the
> first place???!!
 
Some people don't have access to FTP.  I don't..
 
Gary

--
stimpsn@bbs.orion.bison.mb.ca (Gary Stimpson)
The Orion Unix System [A/UX 2.0.1], Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: kherron@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron)
Subject: Re: MOD newsgroup debate: PLEASE READ!
    <1992Apr14.133524.5517@bristol.ac.uk>
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:10:01 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Bytes: 

ccjy@bristol.ac.uk (APATHY=) writes:

>>Ergo, BEFORE people decide on a newsgroup for mod binaries, SOMEONE
>>MUST BE WILLING TO SET UP A NET ARCHIVE OF POSTED MODS

>What is the point of having a storage of MODS from usenet if the main point
>of setting this up was that there were people who couldn't use ftp in the
>first place???!!

A couple of reasons:

	FTP sites come and go.  If the mods are available, but only in
	a haphazard way, you run the great risk of some of them becoming
	UNavailable.

	More important, the net at large is almost certain to insist that
	the moderator of this group only publish a particular mod once
	(barring reposts due to posting failures).  What if your news
	machine is down for a week?  You'd like a place to get the mods, 
	wouldn't you?  (Oh, you were hoping for an unmoderated group?
	Dream on.)

One other reason comes to mind, though I don't know if it will actually
come up:  As I've pointed out before, USENET tends to barely tolerate
binary distributions of things like mods, due to their percieved low
value for their bandwidth consumption.  If you can't get a substantial
archive site going for them, what does that say about their value?
-- 
Kenneth Herron                                       kherron@ms.uky.edu
University of Kentucky                                  +1 606 257 2975
Department of Mathematics
                                              Flame early, flame often.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: markb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Mark B.)
Subject: Re: SITES FOR MODS? (now that ab20 is shutting down)
Organization: Telectronics Pacing Systems
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 00:17:37 GMT


'scuse the spelling in my followup I'm not feeling well today... :~(
-Mark.
-- 
<\\\   I can't stand it anymore.......                     <'\         
 >>>>=======================================================>->        
<///                     ......markb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au       <,/
From: Michael.Robbins@f240.n231.z1.royaljok.fidonet.org (Michael Robbins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: TEST
Date: 11 Apr 92 20:05:00 GMT

This is a test message for this systems internet gating software.
I would appreciate if someone recieving this msg outside of central
Indiana would reply and let us know if it is functioning.
                                           Thank You
From: jhawes@everest.srd.bt.co.uk (Jason Hawes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: MOD newsgroup debate: PLEASE READ!
Date: 16 Apr 92 09:11:16 GMT
Reply-To: jhawes@everest.srd.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom

From article , by stimpsn@bbs.orion.bison.mb.ca (Gary Stimpson):
> ccjy@bristol.ac.uk (APATHY=) writes:
>  
> <some deleted>
>  
>> I don't want to argue with my own group members.......BUT =8*)
>> What is the point of having a storage of MODS from usenet if the main point
>> of setting this up was that there were people who couldn't use ftp in the
>> first place???!!
>  
> Some people don't have access to FTP.  I don't..
>  
> Gary

Yes! there are lots of us here who don't have ftp access !

Don't leave us out in the cold just because you do !
From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: New Group--fuel for the fire..
Date: 11 Apr 92 17:17:14 PST
Organization: TAP, NZAmigaUG

Quoted from <10APR199218510521@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu> by ae313406@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu (Vance Kochenderfer):

> different machines.  Also, apparently creating a new alt group is
> easier than a comp group.  This also has the added advantage that

    Unless you're going for several comp. groups anyway, that .modules
    can tag onto. Putting it under c.s.a also makes life easier for folks
    who automatically get c.s.a.*.

> files should be compressed before they are uuencoded.  This should
> be a standard for all files, probably LHARC would be best since it

    I'd prefer PowerPacked files. Or XPKed files, if someone can write
    an XPK module that does decent compression of samples.

> Vance "well, I tried.." Kochenderfer
--
*** John Bickers, TAP, NZAmigaUG.        jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz ***
***    "Radioactivity - It's in the air, for you and me" - Kraftwerk    ***
From: espie@basilic.ens.fr (Marc Espie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: New Group--fuel for the fire..
Date: 15 Apr 92 07:43:34 GMT
Organization: LIENS, ENS, 45 rue d'Ulm, Paris (France)

In article <jbickers.05tl@templar.actrix.gen.nz> jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers) writes:
>Quoted from <10APR199218510521@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu> by ae313406@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu (Vance Kochenderfer):
[about modules files and how to store them]
>> files should be compressed before they are uuencoded.  This should
>> be a standard for all files, probably LHARC would be best since it
>
>    I'd prefer PowerPacked files. Or XPKed files, if someone can write
>    an XPK module that does decent compression of samples.
>
No, please! Right now, this is not advisable. There are lots of machines
out there able to play modules---IBMs, MACs, sparc stations, indigos, NeXts
(still under development)---which are NOT amigas. 
Tieing the compression format to the amiga (like powerpacker is) would be
a bad mistake at this time, especially since it costs very little to amiga
people (like myself, BTW) to uncompress lharc and recompress it using their
favorite method.
Also, depends on you, but I happen to download files using 
ftp->sparc->msdos disk->amiga.
I am VERY happy to be able to preview new mods on the sparc before I go one
step further...
>> Vance "well, I tried.." Kochenderfer
>--
>*** John Bickers, TAP, NZAmigaUG.        jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz ***
-- 
     Marc Espie (espie@ens.fr)
`In Unix, no one can hear you scream.
Sys V R4, the final battle. 
The aliens are ALREADY among us.'
From: ae313406@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu (Vance Kochenderfer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: New Group--fuel for the fire..
Date: 10 Apr 92 23:51:00 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.40


   It seems to me that a binary newsgroup is needed, and even though
I'm an evil PC user, I'd still like to make a few observations...

   - It would be better to create the group alt.binaries.modules (or
stmods or something) rather than comp.sys.amiga.modules.  The
group alt.binaries.modules.d would be created for discussions. Whether
you like it or not, the MOD format has come into wide use on several
different machines.  Also, apparently creating a new alt group is
easier than a comp group.  This also has the added advantage that
sysadmins who don't want big binary files cluttering their sites can
just eliminate the whole alt.binaries.* hierarchy.  An argument could
also be made for creating alt.binaries.sounds.modules, but a.b.sounds
is devoted to samples, so this may be inappropriate.

   - Large files can be a problem.  But modules are generally about
the same size as gifs, and all you have to do is split the uuencoded
file up into several parts so that posts are under 1000 lines.  Also,
files should be compressed before they are uuencoded.  This should
be a standard for all files, probably LHARC would be best since it
is available for a wide variety of machines and is the standard on
ab20 (R.I.P.).

   - It does seem that there is enough traffic to justify a new
group.. a lot of the messages here are "Where can I find mods" and
there are hundreds of mods out there just waiting to be posted...
You can just point anyone looking for mods to the a.b.modules and
a.b.modules.d groups, and never have to hear from them again..

   Well, that's enough for now.  Have at it, and try to keep flames
relevant to the topic...

I'll vote for any group dedicated to posting mods..

Vance "well, I tried.." Kochenderfer
Virginia Tech                     |        'But these go up to eleven.'
ae313406@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu          |                     -Nigel Tufnel
From: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Looking for NON-trackers...
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:39:12 GMT
Organization: The Veronica Lake Fan Club

jhsa@cc.tut.fi (Janne Salmij{rvi) writes:

> 
> In <aui7iB4w164w@lakes.trenton.sc.us> rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy) wr
> 
> >Future Composer for the Amiga?  If it is anything like the 64 version, I 
> >would certainly call it a tracker...
> 
> I've never seen the C64 version. Anyway you could call FC a tracker, but it's
> still quite different from ST/NT/PT. The blocks are 32 lines long and you put
> the notes in the same style as in (S|N|T)P. So far I haven't seen for amiga
> a musiceditor that let's you determine the length of notes in some other way.
> e.g. C-4 1,4 ; where 1 is the instr# and 4 is the length of the note, like it
> was in some C64 editors (this takes less mem than the usual way of having
> blank spaces where new not is not played). 
> 
> I advice to check it out to see if suits for your purposes. But the only way
> to get editor that 101% fits to your needs is to write your own editor.
> -- 
> - You can hear the sound of two hands clapping. + Janne Salmij{rvi
> - Now how does one hand sound ? 	        + jhsa@cc.tut.fi
> --                                              + jhsa@ee.tut.fi

That is very true!  I had forgotten about the DUR commands, etc.  (Future 
Composer on the 64 was very much like Rommuzak.)  So, is this commercial 
or free?  If it's free, where can I grab a copy?


"Sometimes what you say is going to fly right in the faces of the 
powerful people who really run this world, but you don't care...you know 
it's your place to challenge authority..."

                                          Rockerboy
From: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: A New Newsgroup for MODS
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:23:14 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

In article <1992Apr07.200343.28812@CS.ORST.EDU> divineg@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Glade Diviney) writes:
>
>  
>  Since A) ab20.larc.nasa.gov is shutting down,
>	B) People are clamoring for a place to post MODS,
>    and C) This newsgroup is called c.s.a.AUDIO (not c.s.a.MODS),
>
>  ...why don't we start a new newsgroup called comp.sys.amiga.mods and keep
>  comp.sys.amiga.audio open for discussion of topics like amiga music 
>  composition, reviews, hardware and software updates, etc. like it is now?
>
>  I have no idea what it takes to get a new newsgroup started, but since
>  we really shouldn't depend on a single FTP site for the entire MOD 
>  community, and some people have no FTP access anyway, wouldn't c.s.a.mods
>  be a logical choice?
>
>-=Glade Diviney
>  divineg@prism.cs.orst.edu

Maybe to slightly change things to reflect that while almost all modules
are made on the Amiga, they are not used exclusively on the Amiga, we should
go along the lines of just comp.modules and comp.modules.d

comp.modules would be for the posting of uuencoded mods.
comp.modules.d would be for the discussion of mods in general.

Anyone wanna take on the responsibility of making this official?  (I don't. :)

    Daryl Turner
     <umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
From: paulk@terapin.com (Paul Kienitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Does anybody have this GREAT mod?
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:39:23 PST
Organization: Not an Organization

> It may well be that Tim had to write his own playroutine.  Now that
> I think about it, did SMUS allow volume control or ANY effects for
> that matter?
 
It allows dynamics (volume), but almost nothing else.  It does NOT
allow control of which speaker a given note comes out of, I don't
believe, though it could be extended to do so just because it's an
IFF form.
 
 
Why do you guys always quote each other's entire signature slabs?
From: jkrutz@lobo.rmhs.colorado.edu (Jamie Krutz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: A New Newsgroup for MODS
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:33:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: lobo.1992Apr08.023323.18966
Organization: Rocky Mountain High School, Fort Collins, CO

In article <1992Apr7.232302.9348@sbcs.sunysb.edu> dtiberio@csws6.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio) writes:
>In article <1992Apr07.200343.28812@CS.ORST.EDU> divineg@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Glade Diviney) writes:
>>
>>  
>>  ...why don't we start a new newsgroup called comp.sys.amiga.mods and keep
>>  comp.sys.amiga.audio open for discussion of topics like amiga music 
>>  composition, reviews, hardware and software updates, etc. like it is now?
>>
>
>	I believe you have to get a certain number of votes
>in favor of the group. Should be 150 or so. 
>
>	With me, that makes two votes.
>      //   David Tiberio  SUNY Stony Brook 2-3662  AMIGA  DDD-MEN   
>     //  Not the llama! Come here Earl; I want to tell you something...
>   \X/		Liverpool, New York	    Yes, I like 3D.	

Make that three.  It would be nice to find comp.sys.amiga.audio full of
messages about MIDI, digital audio production (AD1012 and up), and SMPTE 
issues.
 Later,
 -J
From: rda753x@nella15.cc.monash.edu.au (Richard Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: mods
Keywords: MOD
Date: 3 Apr 92 01:02:42 GMT
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.

cyberden!system@nbn.com writes:

>umamihud@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Amihude) writes:

>> In article <1992Mar29.230518.13909@uecok.ecok.edu> wahanc@student.ecok.ecu (H
>> >Why doen't someone post some cool mods?  This would be the best area to 
>> >do so!  I would love to get some new mods, and posting them, alot 
>> >of people will get access to them!
>>   Instead of wasting bandwidth posting mod files, why not just download them
>> from an FTP site?
>> 
>> 
>> 


>Band width??? I've seen no real traffic here... 

>Let's get some encoded .MODS up here!


  I seem to have missed an entire thread here... but I will cast a YES vote
to posting modules here!

   Richard.

-- 
Richard Jones, rda753x@nellads.cc.monash.edu.au
From: srs5960@venus.tamu.edu (STUDEBAKER, SHANNON RAY)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: MED...
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:32:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Could somebody out there explain how to do triplets with MED?  Also, is
it possible to get repititous samples that are short and don't have the 
repitition side effect? (digitized samples)  I like MED, but I these features 
are really bothering me.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

			"THE MUSIC WARRIOR"


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: Dhomas.Trenn@f3.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Dhomas Trenn)
Subject: Re: MIDI Programs
Reply-To: Dhomas.Trenn@f3.n255.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: N/C BBS FidoNet <-> Usenet Gateway.
Distribution: World.
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 09:31:35 GMT

In a message of 06-Apr-92, linton (1:255/3.107) wrote:

 > From: linton@bbs.orion.bison.mb
 > Sender: bbs@orion.bison.mb.ca (BBS Account)
 > Organization: The Orion Unix System [A/UX 2.0.1], Winnipeg, Manitoba,
 > Canada
 >
 > I'm considering buying some MIDI gear for my A3000.  What I would like
 > to  know is:
 >
 > 1)  How good is KCS?
 > 2)  How good is P&P Pro?

 How about, Music-X - Version 2.0, soon to be released, is a MUST!

 > 3)  Is there a MIDI card for the Amiga that'd work on the 3000?

 Is there a MIDI card for the Amiga that'd work on any Amiga?

 > 4)  Which is a better patch editor?  X-Or, MIDI Quest, or Patch Meister?

 How about, Music-X's - PATCH EDITOR CONSTRUCTION SET, soon to be released.

 > 5)  Can you use internal sounds (samples) in B&P and KCS?  If I'm not
 >     mistaken, you need an internal sounds kit for B&P.  Which of the two
 >     has better support/options for internal sounds?  And can these
 >     internal sounds be sequenced with MIDI external sounds?

 Music-X can do all of this.

 > 6)  Is there a MIDI program that has block style notation for drum
 >     programming?

 Music-X will have a new percussion editor, soon to be released.

 > 7)  Are there better programs than KCS or B&P Pro?  Or are they the best

 Music-X!!!

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