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From: aragorn@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Strider)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Query
Date: 28 Sep 1992 23:31:55 GMT
Organization: The Banzai Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf)) writes:
: In article <1992Sep28.155805.444@dct.ac.uk> mcsbc3ktp@dct.ac.uk writes:
: >What is the average attendance of most "big" raves in the U.S, over here we
: >have normally have the capacity for about 20,000 but normally the attendance
: >is only 10,000+? How does this compare with the U.S?
: 
: Yow!  "only 10,000+"...  the largest they get in the US is about 5,000, and 
: that's primarily in LA and a recent one in NY.  Usually the large ones in
: SF get around 3000-4000, but the ones with more than 2000 people have a 
: tendency to lose their rave-family feeling.

The Milwaukee raves I've been to seem to average between 1000-2000 through
the night.  I did attend a rave a couple of weeks ago that did get out of
hand as far as attendance.  It only seemed like the amount of people was too
high, though ... the room was just a bit too small for that size crowd
(Flav-o-Rave).


		      ____________________________________
			Steve J. White
			aragorn@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
			aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu
			skeptic@large@9600bps
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
From: alchemy@cs1.bradley.edu (Mike Swiston)
Subject: Re: Has MC5 anything to do with The KLF?
Organization: salt of the earth in open wounds.
Date:  6 Oct 92 19:14:47 GMT

In <9227801.21982@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> moeller@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Mc Mars) writes:

% I know that The KLF sampled the quote "Kick out the JAMs" from the
% group MC5, but could anyone tell me what exactly the group MC5 actually
% is? I'm looking at a catalogue listing of an MC5 album called "Kick out
% the Jams", now does this have anything remotely to do with The KLF, or
% does it sound remotely anything like KLF stuff?

The "connection" is a joke (?) from the Illuminati
trilogy by Robert Anton Wilson & Robert Shea.
Musically, there's no connection.
Xref: sparky alt.rave:3658 rec.music.industrial:11447 rec.music.synth:16061 rec.music.compose:165
From: johnson@snake10.cs.wisc.edu (Kai Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.industrial,rec.music.synth,rec.music.compose
Subject: Re: TECHNO Samples...
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:23:24 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept

In article <+2bpdpp@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>jvance@maxwell.oac.uci.edu (Joachim Vance) writes:
>
>>> Try to get permission from the artist you're sampling if possible. 
>>
>> Remeber, if you get artist permission, you're only half-way there. It's
>> the recording label that "owns" the music. 
>
>No need for sneer quotes around "owns" -- in most cases, the record label
>does, literally, own all rights to the artist's music.  (This is why U2
>had no specific legal power to stop Island from suing Negativland over _U2
>Negativland_.)  In fact, in such cases, the artist's permission is
>irrelevant. 
>

Perhaps this is relevant, perhaps not.

James Brown recently sued a beer company for using "I feel good" in one of their
commercials. The beer company had permission from the record label, but the
Godfather of Soul still sued. The suit claimed that JB's voice was very
distinctive, and using it in the commercial implied that JB endorsed the beer.
Last I heard the case had passed some sort of preliminary trial and was going to
court.
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: The Orb home video
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:05:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bradley University

In <1992Sep26.171153.1@acad3.alaska.edu> fsern@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
> If anyone can get their hands on the Orb's home video, I would definately
>reccomend it.  I picked up the british version when I was there and translated
>it to American NTSC viewing in the video lab here.  The Video's first pressing
>comes with a cd of the concert that they used for the base of the video.  Very
>drug drug movie.

You can buy it in NTSC format directly.  It still costs over $30.00, but
it's worth it.  contact angst%cs@hub.ucsb.edu for more details.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
    Uncle Sam comes off as the perverted relative who'll offer you a bit of
          candy, but if you won't bend over for him, you get a beating
From: z_madsenka@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: ORB's Assassin promo (12")
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:22:10 CST
Distribution: inet
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

In article <f1sami.717339750@uta.fi>, f1sami@uta.fi (Samu Mielonen) writes:
> A few days ago I got myself a copy of a new(?) promo from Orb. It's
> called "Assassin" and it has two version of the song on it. Does
> anyone know how many of these were pressed and when will it be released
> officially?
> 
> Samu Z. Mielonen
> 
> Oh, forgot to mention that "Assassin" is good - very good indeed.

I want one of these presses. Really really bad
 
Kris Madsen
z_madsenka.ccsvax.sfasu.edu

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: rej@sal.wisc.edu (Randy Jones)
Subject: Re: Messiah---?
Organization: Space Is The Place
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:28:56 GMT

In article <Vk7VRB3w165w@cyberden.uucp> moon!cyberden!dbarton@well.sf.ca.us writes:
>The "Did I dream..." is from Songto the Siren by This Mortal Coil.

...which is a cover off of Tim Buckley's "Starsailor".

-- 
| Randy Jones          | "Dos, cuatro, seis, seis. Cinco, cinco, quatro, seis. 
| rej@bob.sal.wisc.edu |  tres, dos, cuatro, dos. Cuatro, cuatro, seis, seis."
| 608 259 9674         |                                  -9.95 MHz, 3:20 GMT
From: mikes@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Shou-Yung Shum)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: High BPM wanted
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:23:30 GMT
Organization: Rice University

In article <92269.150730MAB195@psuvm.psu.edu> <MAB195@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>I am still looking for kickin' high BPM songs (artists, on compilations, etc.)

what an inane criterion for judging a song:  the bpm.  why don't you just
buy some domestic techno 12"s which are all pressed at 33.33, play them
@ 45 at +8?  that should get the average 130bpm to 160 or so...

better yet, forget techno, and get ministry's jesus built my hotrod which
is approximately 250bpm at 33... you can get that motherfucker up to 300
or so...

yours,m
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
From: llarsen%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Loren Larsen)
Subject: Re: Motivational Tips Needed
Date: 28 Sep 92 11:57:13 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

In article <1992Sep28.141608.9175@bnr.ca> Joan Balser writes:
>Is there anyone out there on the net who could give me some suggestions on how
>to keep motivated towards my goals?  One week I could be committed to 
>it and the next week I feel really burnt out.  I don't know if this has  to do
>with being a woman  but my moods seem to change from day to day.  I feel
>physcially tired and cannot seem to get the drive to carry out my committment. 
>Could it be I'm trying to do too much at one time?
>
>Thanks for your comments.
>
>Joan  

Yes, it could be that you are trying to do too much and are burning out.  You
haven't given enough information for anyone to evaluate that and even so I
doubt that is the problem.  The question is why can some people live in 
constant overload and not feel overwhelmed by it?  It sounds to me that your
problem is not that you are pushing away because of overwhelm or high stress
but because you don't really care about achieving our goals?  Isn't it true
that if your goals are extremely personal and absolute MUSTs for your life that
you will find a way to achieve them?  Maybe your reasons for doing something
just isn't worth the hassle.  For example, I set a goal to study for my GREs.
I even decided that I wanted to study hard so I could get in the 90th 
percentile and go to a top 20 grad. school.  That sounds pretty nice, but
I didn't really FEEL compelled to do that, I was not "associated" to how 
great it would be to do that.  Hence, I almost never studied and did not
achieve the goal.

On the subject of energy: First I don't believe that the excuse of being
a woman is very acceptable.  I'm not a woman so maybe I'm not being realistic,
but I know tons of women who never have any sorts of emotional swings and
are always energized.  I'm not saying others don't, but there is a very
strange link between people who are emotionally healthy and those who take
care of their bodies by eating well and exercising properly.  And there is
an optimal way to exercise.  Many people exercise in ways that actually cause
them fatigue are rob their body of energy.  Study it and find out.

Figure out why you want something, how that will fit into your life (the costs)
and get yourself associated to what it will be like to already have achieved
your goal.  If you can't get associated, maybe your goal isn't very important.
Some people are habitually disassociated to the world so this is difficult.
Practice it and it IS fun to do.

I hope that helps.  

Loren
From: df2tg2n@ties.bell-atl.com (Steve Rosen)
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: What is "The Conversation"?
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:42:12 GMT
Reply-To: df2tg2n@shoes.bell-atl.com
Organization: Bell Atlantic - Phila, PA

Has anybody ever heard of or taken a seminar called "The Conversation"? 
What is it about and what are the benfits, goals, costs, etc.?  What
Conversation are they refering to?
 
-- 
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
             Steve Rosen / Consultant @ Bell Atlantic, Phila, PA
               {Voice}: (215) 466-2061, {FAX}: (215) 563-0517
                     E-Mail: steve.rosen@bell-atl.com

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
From: jharvey@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: re: convo. making
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 20:20:59 GMT

ssIn article <Bv47uo.2DK@acsu.buffalo.edu>, acsormd@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Randall Desmond) writes:
> It can be better not to talk sometimes. 

Yes, but it takes awhile to reach a point where two partners are comfortable
enough to sit in silence. In the meantime, I have never met anyone who
didn't like to talk about him/herself. It's also interesting to learn about
other people, and you can also determine quicker whether or not you even
want to pursue the person. Also, taking an interest in someone verbally
and interrogating them are two different ideas.

-J
From: smbailey@vax1.umkc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: shyness help
Date: 6 Oct 92 02:29:00 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

Hi! Anyone got any suggestions on how to get over shyness?

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From: bongalon@tcad05.intel.com (Ben Bongalon)
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: Re: Motivational Tips Needed
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:22:38 GMT
Reply-To: bongalon@tcad05.intel.com (Ben Bongalon)
Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA USA


Some suggestions for creating(sustaining) motivation:

1. Break down your goals into subgoals.  Doing this offers several
   advantages:

   - by defining the subgoals you create clear, concrete steps
     towards the attainment of your ultimate goal.

   - the subgoals are easier to accomplish individually since they 
     are in essense small projects.

   - completion of the 1st subgoal makes you feel good (since you've
     already accomplished something) which preps you up for the next
     subgoal, and so on...


2. Reward System: promise yourself a reward when you complete your
   goal.  Make sure that you do good on the promise!

   The reward should be proportional to the difficulty of the goal.
   ie- don't give yourself a big reward for a dinky accomplishment.


3. Make a bet with a friend that you can do the goal. This will
   motivate you.

   The bet doesn't have to be large or monetary in nature.  "Loser
   takes winner out to dinner" types of bet are fine.

hope that helps.
ben
From: acsormd@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Randall Desmond)
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: Self-help/improve software: what's it like?
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:11:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Can someone supply a number of examples of some of the 
	self-help/improvement software available? I'm interested in
	what kind of questions they ask and what the points of presentation
	are. For example, does the software concentrate on goal setting?
	behavior/habit modification? Belief structure? Whatever...let
	me know. I'm also curious if the questioning in the programs
	themselves are based on NLP (and then probably the programs'
	advice is derived from NLP too?) ?

	Please don't try to "sell" me these packages. I just want
	to know what they contain, what they do, and how they do it.
	If I desire any, then perhaps I'll buy. (Of course, you may
	recommend/not recommend as a "suggestion" but don't try to
	"sell" ....I've been reading to much Bandler and Grinder...
	I can't tell the difference between "sell" and "suggest"!!!)

	:)

	Thanks in advance,
			   Ismail
From: marcor@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Marco Rentier)
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: Re: Transformational Grammar SOFTWARE?
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:21:20 GMT
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]




Randall Desmond (acsormd@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu) wrote:
: 
: 	Anybody heard of any transformational grammar software
: 	out there. You may have noticed from my introductional
: 	sentance that in the surface structure we are not sure
: 	whether "out there" applies to "Anybody" or to "software".
: 	Yes. It's ambiguity at its best!
: 
: 	In any case, please inform me of any such software packages
: 	you know of. 
: 
: 		a  d  v  a  n  c  e
: 	a d v a n c e 	thanks!   a d v a n c e 
: 		a  d  v  a  n  c  e  
: 
:                    IsMail RobERt

 	IsMaIl RoBeRt
Hi Gerrit, ik kwam dit ergens tegen, weet jij hier iets van ???

Marco.

Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
From: waters@wam.umd.edu (Myra Anita Waters)
Subject: Toastmasters
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: um,dc
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 00:25:46 GMT

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From: Joan Balser
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: Motivational Tips Needed
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:16:08 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research

Is there anyone out there on the net who could give me some suggestions on how
to keep motivated towards my goals?  One week I could be committed to 
it and the next week I feel really burnt out.  I don't know if this has  to do
with being a woman  but my moods seem to change from day to day.  I feel
physcially tired and cannot seem to get the drive to carry out my committment. 
Could it be I'm trying to do too much at one time?

Thanks for your comments.

Joan
From: acsormd@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Randall Desmond)
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: Re: shyness help
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:17:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct5.202900.1@vax1.umkc.edu>, smbailey@vax1.umkc.edu writes...

>Hi! Anyone got any suggestions on how to get over shyness?
>-=========================================================-     

	No. Shyness can be an asset. It's fear of people that
	should be gotten over.
From: acsormd@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Randall Desmond)
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: Transformational Grammar SOFTWARE?
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:17:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Anybody heard of any transformational grammar software
	out there. You may have noticed from my introductional
	sentance that in the surface structure we are not sure
	whether "out there" applies to "Anybody" or to "software".
	Yes. It's ambiguity at its best!

	In any case, please inform me of any such software packages
	you know of. 

		a  d  v  a  n  c  e
	a d v a n c e 	thanks!   a d v a n c e 
		a  d  v  a  n  c  e  

	IsMaIl RoBeRt
From: PNCSPPC@ccvax1.cc.ncsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: INTP seeks other NT people
Date: 3 Oct 1992 13:47:33 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hi!  I am an "INTP" according to the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator(TM), which
is a kind of personality test.  I would like to hear from other "NT"
people; that is, people who rely heavily on thinking and intuition.  So, if
you are an INTP like myself or an INTJ, ENTP or ENTJ, then lets talk.  I am
mainly interested in discussing the strengths and weaknesses of our
personality types in order so that we might use these insights to help us
advance professionally, socially, etc.
 
If you're curious about this, but don't know what type you are, there is an
abridged version of the test available as a Hypercard stack for Macintosh
computers.  A list of ftp sites where it can be obtained is attached after
my signature.
 
Phil Calvert
 
<Bitnet: pncsppc@ncsuvax / Internet: pncsppc@ccvax1.cc.ncsu.edu>
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From: dcox@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (David Cox)
Newsgroups: alt.birthright
Subject: Re: NOMAN's choice
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:58:51 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

Forgive the intrusion into your neat little discussion group here, but I have
a  few things that need to be said.   First, some people use law as an excuse
to allow them to have abortions.  However, if a law said what Jeffery Dahmer
did was permissible, would you do the same?  Also, if every law was followed,
people in Virginia would have to take all their showers outside.  This law
was declared early in Virginian history and has never been removed from the 
books.
	Also, I'm interested in the idea that an unborn embryo/fetus/etc. is
not a person.  I could actually buy that idea.  However, that does not excuse
unnecessary abortions (unnecessary referring to those not related to rape/
incest/threat to the mother's life) not because a person is killed, but 
because abortion prevents a future person from having a life.
	The point I'm getting at is this--ADOPTION.  I've not seen this
mentioned by either side, but adoption is a very useful option to pregnant
women.  The woman can choose to meet the parents of the adopted baby or 
remain as an entity unknown to the adoptees.  There are people waiting in
line for adoptable children.  Adoption is a feasable idea for people on both
sides of the argument over choice/life.  So please, consider this idea, 
if you are considering abortion, and you will make a whole family happy.
	

	The ideas and opinions here faithfully represent those of one tired 
boy sitting in a very cold room.
	Thanks for taking the time to consider this and submit your own ideas.
	Sincerely,
	NOMAN
From: patricka@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Patrick Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.birthright
Subject: Good question
Keywords: abortion,rape,incest
Date: 1 Oct 92 02:48:03 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Why make the special case for rape and incest? If you think abortion
is murder, why should the circumstances of fertilization matter?
(I heard Larry King bring this up). I think I understand the case
of the mothers life being in jeopardy.
 
I'll bet the Mafia is anti-abortion, good christian$ that they are.
 
Love,
Xenu
 
"Ronald Reagan: a triumph of the embalmer's art." - Gore Vidal
From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk (R Clement)
Newsgroups: alt.whine
Subject: Re: ahem...
Keywords: earth to semi-intelligent forms of pond scum
Date: 28 Sep 92 09:39:09 GMT
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies

In article <1992Sep28.035922.29705@nmsu.edu> sschilli@nmsu.edu (Sandy Schilling) writes:
>> 
>You'll do.  Question:  Do you think that tying a man up naked and making him
>lie face down on the floor while you tell him you love him is a good method
>to convey such a message?
>
>--sandy

SANDY!!!!! I CAN GET A TICKET TO THE STATES AND BE THERE IN A WEEK. FORGET
ABOUT THIS DAVID CHARACTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOURS!!!!!

ROSS-C
Newsgroups: alt.whine
Subject: Red red whine
From: mconrad@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (|<azie)
Date: 2 Oct 92 22:34:09 -0500
Organization: One Particular Harbour

Daaaadddddeeeeee!!

-tee hee!




MCONRAD@MIAVX1.mu.ohio.edu                 Michele "|<azie" Conrad
__________________________________________________________________

 "Ran into a chum with a bottle of Rum & wound up drinking all night..."

                               J. Buffett 

                 Changes in Latitiudes, Changes in Attitudes
Newsgroups: alt.whine
Subject: Re: ahem...
From: rdale@cstp.umkc.edu
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 04:50:55 GMT
Organization: UM - Kansas City, Computer Science

> Finally!  What's the problem?  Is everyone soooooooo content that they
> don't have annnnnyyyyyyything to whinnnnnnnne about? Hmmmmmm?  Are we

	Ohhhhhhh, give me a brrrreeeeaaaaaakkk!!!!!  Our computer fall
down, went booooooooooommmm Wednesday, and all our NEEEWWWWWSGROUUUPS
were empty for hours and hours and hours!!!


Newsgroups: alt.whine