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From: grubin@virga.ucar.edu (Rick Grubin)
Subject: Re: Shaquille/Sampson
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Organization: Research Applications Program/NCAR, Boulder, CO
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:26:22 GMT



claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird) writes:
>>>Everyone has question marks coming out of college. For centers:
>>>Moses Malone: no college prep, (believe it or not) too thin

>>Believe it.  Did you ever see Malone play in the ABA's last days, or
>>even see pictures of him playing with the Spirits of St. Louis?  He
>>was a stick.  As an 18-year-old from Virginia, Moses was not the hulk
>>he was later in his career.

>Nor was he even the center, right?
>Who *were* the centers (for St.
>Louis and Utah?) when Moses played
>forward?

When Moses came into the ABA, he started with the Utah Stars.  He was
18 years old, 6'11" and 210lbs.  As the Utah franchise was heading down
the tubes, they sold some of their best players -- including Moses and
Ron Boone -- to St. Louis.  After St. Louis traded Maurice Lucas for
Caldwell Jones (I forget to who), St. Louis had a front line of Jones at
center, and Moses and Marvin Barnes at forwards.  They still got killed
alot (Moses had a broken foot, Jones was adequate at best, and "Bad News"
was one of the ultimate head cases in basketball -- what a waste of talent).

I don't recall who played center for Utah, but it may have been Mel
Daniels, on his downward slide from the glory days at Indiana.  As someone
else mentioned, pick up a copy of "Loose Balls" (the history of the ABA)
and read it -- excellent collection of goofballs, anecdotes, and otherwise
funny stuff.

--
Rick Grubin     grubin@ncar.ucar.edu
From: chill@cbnews.cb.att.com (daniel.a.miller)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: First Round Picks?
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:11:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnews.1992Oct15.201114.2669
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Organization: AT&T

In article <Bw5rxD.6D4@agora.rain.com> robart@agora.rain.com (Robert Barton) writes:
>
>  Laettner has just signed with Minnesota for 6 years.  Laettner will
>be getting $3.5 M a year, more than 50% higher than what #2 Mourning
>is asking for.
>

	Does this mean Jim Jackson will sign next??? How bout it you
Maverick Fans!!!!

- Dan
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From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: Where is ex-Knicks Kenny Walker ?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:53:52 GMT

In article <Bw4DHB.Gzv@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Jazzy J writes:

>	Interestingly enough, most UK players usually
>	do come back to Lexington for some reason (Walker, Bowie, Chapman,
>	etc.) -- even when they're not from that area -- or even from
>	Kentucky.
>
>	Jazzy J

Hey, Jazzy, I think you can find the answer to that right under your post. :)

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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: first round failures
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:45:42 GMT

gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:

>jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>>	Which brings up a trivia question:  Who was the last 1st round pick
>>	to not stick on the opening day roster?  

>Ronnie Murphy?

>(Portland, 1987, #17, just ahead of RotY Mark Jackson)

	Nope -- but you're close to the year.  Murphy did make the Blazers,
	but had a non-descript rookie season, in which he averaged around
	4ppg.  He didn't play in too many games due to injury, and by the
	start of next season, he had become so fat that the Blazers cut him.

	Jazzy J
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From: riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Sunday: Bulls-Heat -- Televised?
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:51:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

I remember seeing a few weeks ago that a Bulls-Heat preseason game
would be televised on TNT, but the date that was given was wrong
(the day listed was actually the 1st or 2nd day of training camp.)
So, I was wondering if anyone knew if the Bulls-Heat game this
Sunday (Oct. 18) was the one that they meant.

Chris Riff
riff@dartmouth.edu
From: ravi@wti.com (Ravi Raj)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Stuff
Date: 10 Oct 92 23:57:04 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Wavefront Technologies Inc, Santa Barbara, CA
X-Disclaimer: Not a spokesperson for Wavefront Technologies, Inc.

In article <1992Oct9.162547.28480@babbage.ece.uc.edu> rbd@flash.ece.uc.edu (Bobby Davis) writes:
>Russ Smith writes:
>I remember Mark Price saying something about it when Magic was permitted
>to play in the All-Star Game last year.  I do not remember the exact quote
>but I know he was speaking out against Magic being allowed to play and the
>gist of it was that it is easy for someone (like a reporter, or me sitting


It wasn't Mark Price. It was Orlando PG Scott Skiles if I remember right.
From: sheyn@csa.bu.edu (Igor Sheyn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: More trivia...
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:35:11 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: sheyn@csa


What about McHale's three to send it to overtime in 6th game of 1991
Boston-Detroit series?
From: kompella@cs.ucsd.edu (Vachaspathi Kompella)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Lakers 61-21, NOT!!!!
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:02:03 GMT
Organization: CSE Dept., UC San Diego


Tony Minkoff says:
|> 
|> The starting centers in the Finals last year will Bill Cartwright
|> and Kevin Duckworth.  Mark Eaton made it to the Western Conference
|> finals.
|> 
|> It therefore follow that a really good center is a *liability*, not
|> an asset.  The Suns will go all the way with Tim Kempton at center.
|> 
|> :-)
|> 
|> Tony

Oh no!  The secret's out!  Don Nelson will have to think of a new stratagem.
Let's see.  How about tall point guards?  No, that's been done already.  OK, OK,
I got it (a la Joe Pesci in Lethal Weapon k).  Male cheerleaders in tutus!!

Hey!  I'm writing a paper, and it's no fun, so if I traduce, calumniate or vilify
some team, take it with a pinch of cayenne pepper.

-Vach
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Sacramento in 8214 (that's about 100 years away, but I give them 4 sweeps in the
playoffs and finals).
From: jblixt@neon.cdc.com (Jon Blixt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: The case for the Utah Jazz
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:41:57 GMT
Reply-To: jblixt@mips.COM (Jon Blixt)
Organization: CEO of RUBL - Real Usenet Basketball League

In article <1992Oct14.165940.7224@microsoft.com} chrisgro@microsoft.com (Christopher Gross) writes:
}}
}}Utah is a streaky team.  They are just beginning to have a clue as to how to play
}}as a team.  That's why they are dangerous.  People underestimate them.  But to say
}}that they will beat the Lakers 4 of 4, well, all I can say is, wise up!
}
}Streaky team?  This makes sense for teams like Indiana, but Utah must be
}one of the most consistent teams in the league over the last several years.
}Their pattern seems to be win at home, lose on the road, win 50+ games and then 
}lose in the first or second round of the playoffs (mostly the former). And
}while the fact that _some_ people underestimate them is more a consequence
}of their small media market than their record, other organizations in the
}league certainly don't, the Lakers included.  The Lakers were responsible
}for one of Utah's rare home losses last year, but, and I may be wrong
}on this, I think Utah swept the remaining 3 (possibly 4) games. Last year, 
}

Utah won 3 games, Laker 1.

}				Chris Gross
}				chrisgro@microsoft.com

-Jon
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From: len@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (leonard.g.carr)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: nba.c
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:00:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsj.1992Oct14.130046.363
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <Bw2oMF.5Gs@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.) writes:
>Speaking of nba.c, I'm having some real problems compiling this bad boy -
>something concerning switching incompatible data types.  If the author of
>this could contact me about this, I would really appreciate it.  Thanks.
>

First of all you need to figure out what version of the program you are
using before you can define the word "author".  I am the author of the
original source...others have modified it and reposted their changes.

Secondly, you may be on your own to figure out the "incompatible" data types".
It may be something that is particular to your compiler.  I've compiled my
program on several machines with no problems.

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From: nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Cavs get Gerald Wilkens?
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:35:49 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <1992Oct9.184826.15726@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei) writes:
>In article <1992Oct9.145434.23411@ll.mit.edu> nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith) writes:
>>...[]...there is a Wilkins Curse to teams that
>>have a Wilkins on their roster....
>>- nate
>
>Of course you understand that for Cleveland it'll probably be different.
>They already have a Wilkens (Lenny, their coach), and he's one of the best.

 lenny is a wilkens.  'Nique & gerald are each a wilkins.  :-)

 but aside from that, yes, i hope it works out for Cleveland.  because the
 celts dont have it this year and i like cleveland next.

 your point about all the big men they have leaving room for a SF is good....

- nate
From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Trent Tucker
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:14:07 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

adam@research.nj.nec.com (Adam Porter) writes:
>I think you Bulls fans are overrating Tucker.

>As a serious Knicks fan, I can tell you he was a marginal player
>talent-wise.  He hustled and played with heart, but he didn't have the
>physical size or quickness or dead-eye shooting necessary to be a
>star. 

	That's quite a bit to say for someone who was a #6 pick overall
	in the draft.  While Tucker was no superstar, he did play tough
	D, and he could certainly hit the 3 (ask any Bulls fan about this).
	One glaring weakness of him was that he never did shoot any FTs
	though.

>He did play with heart, hustle, and dedication.  Scrappy on defense,
>at least a step behind the fast break, and sub-45% from the field be
>it 3-ptrs or 2.

>Maybe he'll make a contribution, but I wouldn't expect too much.

	Well, considering he's taking the roster spot of either Hodges or
	Hansen, I don't think the Bulls are losing much.  In fact, Tucker
	can possibly be considered a combination of the 2.  He can hit the
	long range bomb like Hodges, and can play the tough D like Hansen.
	And, at a cheaper price than either of the above mentioned either.
	He'll do as much as Hodges/Hansen did, and I think that's all the
	Bulls are expecting.

	Jazzy J

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From: mtobler@pomona.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: So... (re: trivia)
Organization: Pomona College
Distribution: na
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:26:04 PDT

In article <1992Oct15.195432.9824@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>, u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei) writes:
> With all that trivia spreading around, I have one: what player has never
> attempted a three pointer in the most seasons played?  Actually, I don't
> know if he threw one up last season (I should look), but after that many
> years, I kinda doubt he would change.

  My guess would be Mark Eaton but, I know for a fact that he attempted
and to the surprise of many made a three pointer last year (I think
it was against the Clips).  It was so unexpected that the showed it on
the local news just about as often as the showed the dunk that
Jordan missed against the Lakers.
 
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From: claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird)
Subject: Re: Lakers 61-21, NOT!!!!
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 03:09:24 GMT

In article <jjonsson.168@alexandria.lib.utah.edu> jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu writes:
			.
			.
			.
>Predictions for the Western Conference:
>
>	Utah 59-23
>	Portland 58-24
>	Phoenix 52-30
>	Golden State 50-32
>	LA Clippers 48-34
>	Seattle 48-34
>	Houston 45-37
>	LA Lakers 45-37
>
>Playoff predictions: Utah 3-1 over LAL
>		     Portland 3-2 over Houston
>		     Seattle 3-2 over Phoenix
>		     Golden State 3-2 over LAC
>
>		     Utah 4-1 over Seattle
>		     Portland 4-2 over Golden State
>	
>		     Utah 4-3 over Portland.
			.
			.
			.
Here in Houston, folks are wondering if the
Rockets will be able to find starters for
45 games, let alone win them.  What possible
reason could you have for projecting them to
win more playoff games than they have in the
past several years, combined?

The Rockets are in about as much disarray as
any major-league team.  I know the Pitts-
burgh Pirates are shockingly successful with
a crummy attitude, but the Rockets just don't
have NBA-caliber talent (on average).
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From: u9148124@cs.uow.edu.au (Adam Erik Ragland)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: More trivia...
Date: 14 Oct 92 07:31:07 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

halpin@sw.stratus.com (Jim Halpin) writes:

>In article <1992Oct13.031300.28690@cs.uow.edu.au>, u9148124@cs.uow.edu.au (Adam Erik Ragland) writes:
>> 
>> 	How about Kevin Mchale hes been around ages and never makes 3's, ive
>> seen him launch a couple too.
>> 

>	McHale is 39-139, .280 for 3-point attempts over the course of his
>career. He was 0-13 last year....

Hmmmmm. I didnt think it was that high. Oh well 0-13 would have given him
the worst % last year :) Thanks for the info.
That would also mean that i'm nowhere near correct in guessing he had the
worst career 3-pt %. I reckon it could be Bol too, maybe someone like
Jon Koncak or Randy Bruer.

Adam
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From: paul@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Paul Mathews)
Subject: Re: More trivia (answer)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:14:10 GMT

In article <Bw4DAB.Gu4@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>paul@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Paul Mathews) writes:
>
>>   I thought I remember reading that Darrel Walker of the Pistons had
>>the worst career 3-pt. FG percentage.
>	
>	We've got a winner here!  Believe it or not, a guard (Darrell Walker)
>	has the worst 3-pt FG percentage of all time.  Now, for extra
>	brownie points, guess his percentage (he took 101 shots).
>
>	Jazzy J


	I think he has made 4 for a whopping 4% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: More trivia...
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:16:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvmark.1992Oct14.141617.12682
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <Bw2Lwz.2IH@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.) writes:
>In article <Bw1E9n.n3o@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>>arwoo@athena.mit.edu (Albert R. Woo) writes:
>>
>>>Is it James Worthy?  Lately, it seems like he's been around 25%, and 
>>>I think his early years were pretty abysmal.  It always looks like he's 
>>>shot-putting the basketball when he shoots a 3...  I'm also guessing
>>>that he's tried more than 100 attempts in his career...
>>
>>	Nope.  Sorry.  A hint -- the guy I'm thinking of has an abysmal
>>	percentage.  We're talking seriously bad here folks...
>>
>>	Jazzy J
>
>Manute Bol?  :)
>


How about Quintin Dailey???  

If not him, I would say Darrell Walker (though he may not qualify).

Surprisingly enough, I think that someone once said Bernard King was
one of, if not the worse
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From: dxj@cci632.cci.com (Dennis Joyce)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: First Round busts
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:42:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY

Can someone compile a list of NBA First Round "busts"???

Lets define a "bust" as a first rounder that was in the league
for less than 2 years. Lets also narrow the search down to
say the last 5 - 10 years...

Any takers? Jazzy?
	
					Dennis J.
From: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: Celtics training camp
Reply-To: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:49:04 GMT

In article CCJ@ora.com, ellie@ora.com (Ellie Cutler) writes:
>|KENNY BATTLE - Now this is a kid I like.  He was one of the 10-day
>|contract boys Boston signed periodically last season to beef up their
>|Bird and Brownless lineup.  Battle had great hustle and attitude, could
>|take it to the hoop, and played tight D.  I'm not sure where he fits
>|though, as he's not big enough for PF, and SF is chock full o'Xman,
>|Fox, and Gamble (unless Fox goes for Gugliotta.)
>|

Where did Battle go to school?

>|STEVE SCHEFFLER - Bang, bang.  With Kleine and Barry, what do they want
>|Barry is still unsigned, and the Celtics really don't have a big
>|incentive to get him on the roster.  With no bites on Sherman Douglas
>|on the trade line, Sherm may move into the starting PG role, with Dee
>|Brown as 3rd man in the backcourt (supposedly a few starters prefer
>|Douglas to Dee at the point - my guess would be Pinckney and McHale.)
>|

So why did the Celtics draft him?  Seems like an awful waste to me.

>|-- 
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From: yount@crchh473.BNR.CA (Jeff Yount)
Subject: Alonzo Mourning, greedy SOB
Reply-To: yount@crchh473.BNR.CA (Jeff Yount)
Organization: BNR
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 22:37:46 GMT

I hear that Alonzo Mourning's contract negotiations have
come to a halt recently. It seems that poor Alonzo is not
happy with the maximum the Hornets can pay him his first
year under the salary cap. They have 2.1M, he wants 2.3M.
So what is his solution? He wants the Hornets to trade
away some talent to free up more money for him. Now that's
team spirit. Supposedly his total contract value is not
the problem, he just can't live on so little money his
first year. I don't think Alonzo understands the Charlotte
crowd. The Hornets are Gods in Charlotte. Every member of
the team is popular. When he holds out for more money than the
team is allowed to pay, then forces the team to trade
a popular player to pad his ego, hurting the team, he is
not setting himself up for a great welcome. Have you ever
heard 24,000 college style fans booing as loud as they
can? Grow up Alonzo! When you finally come down off your
ego, you'll just be #2 to LJ (maybe #3 after Kendill).

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From: u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei)
Subject: Re: Cavs get Gerald Wilkens?
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:48:26 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.145434.23411@ll.mit.edu> nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith) writes:
>
>  mmm...i dont like it for cleveland.  although i think dominique is very
>talented and gerald is NBA material, there is a Wilkins Curse to teams that
>have a Wilkins on their roster....
>
>- nate
>(nothing against dominique & gerald, you understand - its a jinx)

Of course you understand that for Cleveland it'll probably be different.
They already have a Wilkens (Lenny, their coach), and he's one of the best.
The Cleveland offense is one of the prettiest around, Gerald won't be
relied on for the perimeter touch he doesn't have.  Watch for him to play
more small forward.  With three seven footers around, maybe the Cavs can
give up an inch or two at the 3 spot.
From: nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Cavs get Gerald Wilkens?
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:54:34 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <1992Oct9.012505.23242@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> aflorjan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Alan S Florjancic) writes:
>Yes, indeed, they did sign him.
>I feel that it is a hell of a move...[]...
>
>Alan Florjancic

  mmm...i dont like it for cleveland.  although i think dominique is very
talented and gerald is NBA material, there is a Wilkins Curse to teams that
have a Wilkins on their roster....

- nate
(nothing against dominique & gerald, you understand - its a jinx)