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From: jeffw@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Jeff Weidner)
Subject: Re: Anchor Steam Christmas Ale
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:45:51 GMT

machman@hardy.u.washington.edu (The Machman) writes:

>schlick+@cs.cmu.edu (Steven Schlick) writes:

>>I'd take an Anchor Steam Christmas Ale over a pint of Guiness any day.
>>Don't get me wrong, I do like Guiness.  But compared to most Anchor Steam
>>products, Guiness has no hops!

>The name "Anchor Steam" refers only to one particular product of
>Anchor Brewing Co.  The correct name of Anchor's holiday brew is
>"Our Special Ale".  It is not a steam beer.
>							-- dave

So, does anyone know the full story of the term "steam" when used to
describe beer?  

I think it has to do with the conditions during brewing in the early days
of west coast beer making.  Wasn't it brewed at a much higher temperature
than beers elsewhere?

Are these conditions still present during the manufacture of "Anchor
Steam"?  How about other beers?  Do any other beers call themselves
"steam"?

Oh, and, someone from Ohio (I think) was complaining they paid about $9
for a six of "Our Special Ale".  I paid more than that here in LA.  How 
little does it go for elsewhere, and anybody know where to buy good beer
for cheap on the westside of LA?

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: blucey@vax1.tcd.ie
Subject: Re: 5 favorite beers
Organization: Trinity College Dublin
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 11:58:08 GMT

Regarding Favourite Beer :

	Dont Drink Beer : Drink Guinness.
	      No Beer Comes Near !!

Brian Lucey
From: scst48@csc.liv.ac.uk (Mr. S.P. Allen)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Special Brew
Date: 11 Dec 92 11:51:29 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University


	Has anyone got a Special Brew gif? As I would love to have it.

Regards Steve Allen.
He's a real nowhere man, sitting in his no-where land,
Making all his plans for nobody, doesn't have a point of view,
Knows not where he's going to, isn't he a bit like you and me!
From: rrkst1+@pitt.edu (Ross R Klein)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: test
Date: 19 Dec 92 00:19:06 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


just a test...
From: michelle@theloop.Central.Sun.COM (Michelle Donat SE Chicago Loop )
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: re: all American Beer sucks
Date: 15 Dec 1992 16:39:29 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: michelle@theloop.Central.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: theloop.central.sun.com

Labatts, eh?!
I admit, until 3 or 4 years ago, I thought that Canadian beers, even the commodity ones like
Labatts, were head and shoulders above American Beer.
First of all, I don't (always) drink to get blitzed -given the beers that I like, that can get 
REAL expensive..

In the last three or four years, American brewers -all micros or small regional breweries have 
made it unneccesary to go outside the 48 states for GOOD beer.
You should try a number of these....
ANYTHING from Bell's in Kalamazoo, Michigan, especially the Third Coast, and the Porter.
Baderbrau, and Baderbrau Bock from Pavichevich Brewing in Elmhurst, Illinois.  This, IMHO, 
is the finest Pilsener brewed in the US, and until the intro of Pilsener Urquell in draught, the
finest Pilsener available in the US.  ( I have yet to get any here in the US, but had some in
Europe. YUM!)
The stuff from Chicago Brewing is very good, they carry a lager, a red ale and a Kristal Weizen.
I would imagine that they will start seasonal beers soon.
I have also tried everything from Mendocino Brewing in Hopland. CA (what a place to put a 
brewery!), and like it very much, especially the Red Tail Ale.
We in the Midwest are, finally! getting a variety of local brewpubs, micros, and new beers out
of the small regionals....I find very little reason to go offshore to get my beer....yeah, I know that
there are REALLY great beers from Europe, but unfortunately, the transit, and the preservatives
that they put in them take their toll....
The Canadian beer that I have drunk usually is very good, but not up to the level of the micros,
and the small regionals -and besides, the price of Canadian beer is about what most of the
micros cost in Chicago, so's what's the use!!!




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From: mracette@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Michael Racette)
Subject: Re: Anchor Porter...
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:29:37 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <5RiaVB1w165w@seashell.mintir.new-orleans.la.us> elendil@seashell.mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:
>Picked up a six pack of Anchor Porter yesterday.  I haven't had it in ages, and
>it really hit the spot tonight.  I remember having it recommended to me as an
>alternative to stouts, which are so strong that they put off aa lot of folks.
>Can anyone recommend other good porters to try that are available here?
>
>
>
>|Edward J. Branley         elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us|
>|Seashell Software, Metairie, LA            +1-504-455-5087|

I have to put in my vote for Boulder Porter as well. I prefer it by far over
Anchor which I've never cared for at all. Boulder is the best porter I've
ever had. Let us know if it's available in your neck of the woods.

Mike R.
From: brewer@meltdown.chi.il.us (Mike Wilson)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Corona and Mexican Beer
Date: 18 Dec 92 13:53:16 CST
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

I dislike Corona but, like you and Carl, I think Dos Equis is very good.  I can
also drink Simpatico on occasion.  Bohemia is also palatable.  But Corona and
Tecate aren't worth the water they're brewed with.

Mike Wilson
brewer@meltdown.chi.il.us
From: ajd@oit.itd.umich.edu (Arthur Delano)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Xmas ales in Ann Arbor ?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 00:02:14 GMT
Organization: finchhaus
Distribution: umich
NNTP-Posting-Host: helen.oit.itd.umich.edu

In article <r0S=R0A@engin.umich.edu> rob@med.umich.edu (Robert Strawderman) writes:
>Is there a place in town that carries these special ales ?  I've seen the Sam Adams,
>Sam Smith's, and Anchor special ales (at the Merchant of Vino), but have failed
>in finding some of the less "popular" ones (e.g. less well known, like Sierra Nevada,
>Red Hook, etc...).  Thanks for any help....I'm going through withdrawal!

Sierra Nevada cannot be found in Michigan; i'm not certain about
Red Hook.  Other xmas beers i've seen in AA are Grant's Xmas and 
another British brand whose name escapes me (could be Young's).  
Sam Smith's brews a new Xmas ale every year, but up until two weeks 
ago, the bottles i've seen were all dated 1991/92, so be certain 
to read the label.

The brand i personally miss here is Harpoon's Winter Ale.  wistful sigh.

AjD
-- 
                       ajd@oit.itd.umich.edu
    "Whatever makes the most money will happen." -- Eleanor Glyn
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From: taylor@ccrs.emr.ca (Trevor Taylor)
Subject: re: American beer ....blah blah
Organization: Canada Centre for Remote Sensing, Ottawa
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:09:04 GMT


Believe it or not, Labatts actually has one good beer....

Labatts Velvet Cream Porter. But that is it absolutely it.

I actually can't believe that any right thinking Canadian

Would choose to drink any Large brewery Beer. Be it Labatt,
Molson or Budweiser. Labatt's blue bills itself as a pilsner when
in reality it is rice based.....just like Bud. Icccck.


By the way, Molsons has attempted to compete with the micros with
one brand brewed "the traditional way". It is a beer called Ricards
Red. It is bloody awful so don't be fooled.
From: V5WA@UNB.CA (V5WA000)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: American beer all sucks
Date: 15 Dec 92 04:36:24 GMT
Organization: The University of New Brunswick

Do You idiots actually get drunk off that water you call beer?
Here in Canada, Labatts rules.  I'm not being biased
because it's Canadian.  It's just better.  I like to know when I'm drink
drinking and it doesn't take 10 to 12 bottles before you get
a buzz (like all American beer)

 Feel free to respond
From: jefforca@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: A Real Beer
Date: 15 Dec 92 04:42:17 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

Boy, are you people could only try some real beer.  The best beer on th face of
the planet has got to be Leinenkugel's.  "A Legend in the Brewing Since 1867"
and brewed in Chippewa Falls, WI.  This beer is thick and hearty and takes a
real man to drink.

Drop all your child beers, Miller, Bud, Pabst ... and send out for some real
stuff.


Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: kns001@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Re: Brew Pub in Des Moines,IA
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:23:37 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.134555@IASTATE.EDU>, tina@IASTATE.EDU (Christina Reinhard) writes:
> 
>  Hello,
> 
>     Does anybody know if there is a brew pub/microbrewery
>  in Des Moines IA. ?
> 
>     Regards,
>                 Tom
> 
>

	Don't know about here in DSM, but The Old Depot is located not
far away in Adel, IA.  Somebody on an earlier thread seemed to think it
wasn't anything exceptional...I haven't been there/tried any, myself.

	- Karissa S. 
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: emeeks@unity.ncsu.edu (Edward Meeks)
Subject: Re: Anchor Steam Christmas Ale
Organization: North Carolina State University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:41:50 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.053644.29715@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dbayer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Daniel L Bayer) writes:
  
>Like I posted before,  buy Oldenburg Winter 
>brew for half the price and only a little suffering in quality.  Dan.
>

I'm not sure what is meant by "quality" in the above statement, but I
would hope that the poster doesn't offer Oldenburg's winter offering as
a "cheap substitute" for Anchor Xmas Ale. Having tried both, I'd say
that Oldenburg's is less "spicy" than Anchor's, with a yeasty "bite" to
it as well. I'd recommend both. 

BTW, a six of Anchor Xmas costs $9 plus tax here in NC, as well. Maybe
shipping costs have an an influence?  On the other hand, Dan may have a
good point about Anchor's inflated price. I seem to recall a basic
marketing maxim that consumers (in general) associate high quality with
high price.

Just my $.02-- 

For you folks in the DC metro area: Is Geary's Hampshire Ale (name is
probably garbled, I mean their Xmas brew) available around there? Please
respond if you've seen it. I'd like to get a freind to bring some down
for the holidays.

--Ed


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Ed Meeks (emeeks@ncsu.edu)  "Won't you please tell the man I didn't hurt
anyone, I was just tryin' to have me some fun." --John Prine
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: gummitch@techbook.com (Jeff Frane)
Subject: Re: How to serve Samichlaus
Organization: TECHbooks of Beaverton Oregon - Public Access Unix
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:32:33 GMT

sawyer@utahep.uta.edu (Lee Sawyer) writes:

>    For the first time, I was able to lay my hands on a six of Samichlaus.
>I am having some fellow beer snobs over tonight for a tasting. The question is:
>At what temperature should it be served ? Chilled like Chimay, or at room
>temperature like Thomas Hardy ? 

Well, it's obviously too late to be of any help but for future
reference: DO NOT CHILL CHIMAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As I recall, it even says as much on the label, and certainly Michael
Jackson makes a big point of this.  Like any ale, Chimay's beers should
be served at cellar temperature -- high to mid-50s, no cooler, really.
Samichlaus is another story, but even that is best served at about 50F.
"Room temperature" is a misnomer, really, and way too warm for *any*
beer.  Thomas Hardy, too, should be served at cellar tempertures.


>    Also, the beer was sold out of the cooler, and I have kept it in the
>refigerator. I want to give a bottle as a Christmas gift. With the previso that
>no beer should under go drastic temperature changes, would it adversely effect
>Smaichlaus to be warmed up to room temperature for several hours, then re-
>refigerated ? Should have been refigerated in the first place ?

No beer will be harmed by being refrigerated for long periods, although
any bottle-conditioned beer would be best off in a cool, dark cellar.
I've never seen any technical reference to any problems with temperature
changes in finished beer, although long storage at warm temperatures is
very hard on it.  Certainly, sitting out for a few hours can't make any
difference at all.

By the way, for real technical answers to these questions, contact your
chem department and ask for Dr. Fix.  You are right next to a *real*
beer expert.

--Jeff Frane

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: curtis@opium.cs.odu.edu (vincent curtis)
Subject: Bellehaven
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, Va
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 22:08:50 GMT


Does anyone know of a store in the Norfolk, VA area that carries Bellehaven.
If not, where can I find it?

-VEC
From: smennitt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stuart Mennitt)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: How big is a keg? / Leienkugols (sp)
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:26:22 GMT
Reply-To: smennitt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stuart Mennitt)
Organization: NavSurfWarCen, CarderockDiv (ex-"Taylor Model Basin")

In alt.beer, image@leland.Stanford.EDU (John B. Mooney) writes:
>Greetings:

    In the US, kegs are based on the 31 gallon barrel.  A "half-barrel
keg" is 15.5 gallons, and "quarter kegs" are 7.75 gallons.  This 31
gallon barrel unit is also used to express a brewery's capacity, distribution,
etc.
    Most non-US kegs are not of the same capacity, with the exception
of some Canadian beers and Carlsburg (Carlsburg is imported and distributed
by A-Busch and uses A-B kegs.)
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: casey@anxiety.lexmark.lex.usa.na (Patrick Casey)
Subject: Re: American beer all sucks
X-Disclaimer: These views are the poster's and not necessarily those of Lexmark
Reply-To: pacasey@lexmark.com
Organization: Lexmark International, Lexington KY
	<CASEY.92Dec16182547@anxiety.lexmark.lex.usa.na>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 07:09:05 GMT

In article <CASEY.92Dec16182547@anxiety.lexmark.lex.usa.na> casey@lexmark.com (Patrick Casey) writes:


>  Oh well, RDWHAH or a good commercial brew!
                  ^
                  B


Oops!  Looks like I already had too many...

- Patrick

--
Patrick A. Casey      pacasey@lexmark.com         Hi, I.S. big brothers!
From: elendil@seashell.mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: keg size
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 92 18:26:00 CST
Organization: Seashell Software

us267384@mmm.serc.3m.com (Steven M. Anastasi) writes:

>
> I remember the good old days of 2 gallon kegs.  (circa 1978)
> They looked like the
> aluminum 8 gallon kegs, they were just smaller.  Two gallons seemed
> like just the right amount for so many occasions.
>

Warsteiner makes what looks like a miniature keg that can't be more than 2-3
liters in volume.  Comes with its own little tap mechanism.  I think I might
give it a try for a friend's Super Bowl party next month.




|Edward J. Branley         elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us|
|Seashell Software, Metairie, LA            +1-504-455-5087|
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: tullfan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Richard Thompson)
Subject: WIEDIE'S IS KING
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 10:11:46 GMT

any beer i drink has to be cheaper per six pack then craigmont soda pop...

(-:

-- 
"For I am a Bear of Very Little Brain,
     and big words Bother me."
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Corona and Mexican Beer
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:37:20 GMT

In article 7927@news.duke.edu, daniel@teer9.acpub.duke.edu (Daniel Crawford) writes:
> In article <1992Dec12.230901.1@acad.drake.edu>, kns001@acad.drake.edu writes:
> |> 
> |> ...Growing up in Oklahoma, Mexican beers were fairly plentiful: Corona and
> |> Chihuahua (sp?) were THE thing to drink in high school (4-6 yrs ago) if you
> |> could get around the authorities - these days, they taste like flat-beer-
> |> flavored water to me.  In all the talk I've seen here abt. Mexican brews,
> |> nobody's mentioned Simpatico, which I really like - has anyone else tried it?
>                       ^^^^^^^^^^
> |> (comes in a nifty black bottle...)   
> 
> 
> I was under the imression that Simpatico was made in Iowa -- is this true???
> 
> T. Daniel Crawford
> Center for Computational Quantum Chemistry
> University of Georgia
> Athens, GA 30602


Yes, its true.

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
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 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
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From: brewer@meltdown.chi.il.us (Mike Wilson)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: I hate green bottles
Date: 16 Dec 92 09:10:19 CST
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

>>I could check over the state line in Michigan, but there beer seems to cost
more,<<

It's probably the taxes.  I've purchased liquor of all kinds from three {im1
Michigan and Kentucky.  All are burdened with higher tax rates.

Now, on to other stuff.  I'm quite likely to be in the Lancaster, PA area next
summer, with side trips to Philly and Baltimore, possibly even Atlantic City. 
Does anyone know any good places in the Lancaster area, preferably a little
north like, oh say, Littitz, Manheim, Leola, etc.?  I know about Stoudt's, but
one can't spend all one's time in a brewery.  One needs a bar every now and
again.

Mike Wilson
brewer@meltdown.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: murray@rocky.raleigh.ibm.com (Charlie Murray)
Subject: Re: New brewer needs assistance (please ?)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:33:00 GMT
Organization: IBM, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina
Keywords: Keg trouble.

In article <1992Dec13.185958.2277@cs.mun.ca>, jbutt@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Jonathan Butt) writes:
|> 
|> 	OK. Here is my problem. I have recently inheted a keg from my brother and I have no idea how to use it. (He didn't die, just moved and couldn't take it) The recipie on the beer kit I'm using states:
|> 
|> 	Place the beer in the open fermentor until the head that develops when the yeast was stirred in dissipates and you can see the top of the beer. Then transfer the beer to a closed fermentor and put the airlock in place. Leave for a period of two weeks. Th|> e bottle and store for ten days."
|> (or something like that)
|> 
|> Can I put the beer directly into my keg?? It appears that it should be airtight, and does have a release valve.  Or should I seal the beer in a closed fermentorand not put it in the keg (with the sugar mixture) until it has sat in the airlocked fermentor?|> ? 
|> The kit I'm using is a Muntara(i ??) Lager 
|> 
|> As well, should I do anything specific about temperatures. ie: Should I place the sealed fermentor in a cold room (approx. 10-15 deg C.) or should I keep it at 20 deg C.? 
|> 
|> Looking forward to your input. Post on this board, or mail me at my address. 
|> 
|> Hope everyone has a safe and happy holiday season.
|> 
|> -- 
|> Jonathan D. Butt (aka. Slammer)
|> jbutt@garfield.cs.mun.ca

You would be better off posting in rec.crafts.brewing as that is where the
homebrewers are sure to hang out.

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From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Pete's Wicked Ale
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:43:53 GMT

just had one on aturday. cost $1.50 a bottle. but it was pretty good. quite impressed.

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
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 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
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From: atl@suzuki.kpc.com (Drew Lynch)
Subject: Re: Re: American beer all sucks
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:51:25 GMT

Why do you all respond to postings like this?  It just serves as
encouragement. If you must respond, do it through private email, and
don't waste net bandwidth.

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: rob@med.umich.edu (Robert Strawderman)
Subject: Xmas ales in Ann Arbor ?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 07:59:56 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Health Sciences, Ann Arbor
Distribution: umich
Reply-To: rob@med.umich.edu (Robert Strawderman)
Originator: rob@gaspra


To the Ann Arborites in the crowd:

Is there a place in town that carries these special ales ?  I've seen the Sam Adams,
Sam Smith's, and Anchor special ales (at the Merchant of Vino), but have failed
in finding some of the less "popular" ones (e.g. less well known, like Sierra Nevada,
Red Hook, etc...).  Thanks for any help....I'm going through withdrawal!

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From: plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Anchor Steam Christmas Ale
Date: 18 Dec 1992 20:03:50 GMT
Organization: Brown University Planetary Geology
NNTP-Posting-Host: pilsner.geo.brown.edu

In article <1992Dec14.120042.1@vax1.tcd.ie> blucey@vax1.tcd.ie writes:
>
>Folly : dont Drink Ale ( barf, puke, retch )
>Drink Guinness

   Is not Guinness an ale?
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