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From: jacob@cs.swarthmore.edu (Jacob Mattison)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Phil Oks & Tom Lehr
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:31:14 GMT
Distribution: iu
Organization: Swarthmore College

thom@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (thom kevin gillespie) writes:

>s there any good place to get book/sheet music & tapes for the music of
>Phil Oks & Tom Lehr in the Bloomington area? Thanks

>--Thom

I don't know Bloomington, but you'll get farther if you look under
Phil Ochs and Tom Lehrer.
There's a book called "Too Many Songs by Tom Lehrer" that's pretty widely
available in bookstores/music stores.

                                          Jacob
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From: sag@hera.Berkeley.EDU (Steve Goldfield)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Arkansas music
Date: 22 Jan 1993 00:26:11 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: hera.berkeley.edu

I may have missed the beginning of this thread. Somebody
must have already mentioned "Arkansas Traveler."

In Jimmy Driftwood's "Tennessee Stud" the lead character
passes through Arkansas; I think it was after he whipped
"her paw." Vern Williams, who is from Arkansas, sings a
song about and titled after a small town in Arkansas
with the state's name in the title;
I can't remember the name of the town at the moment, though I
think it ends in "Knob."

Steve Goldfield        :<{  {>:           sag@hera.berkeley.edu
University of California at Berkeley     Richmond Field Station
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From: bobleigh@world.std.com (Bob Leigh)
Subject: Pankakes (was: song of Carrol's "Jabberwocky")
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:06:15 GMT

kassover@rumsey.crd.ge.com (David Kassover) writes:
>_Joe's Got A Head Like A Ping-Pong Ball_, by Marcia and Jon
>Pankake has got several of these.

Who are the Pankakes?  That's the second time I've heard about them
in the last few weeks.  I've also been shown something called
_A_Prairie_Home_Companion_Songbook_ by them.

Bob Leigh       bobleigh@world.std.com
From: harvey@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Betty Harvey)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Josh White Jr.
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:56:24 GMT
Reply-To: harvey@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Betty Harvey)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.music.folk, sarrator@CVAX.IPFW.INDIANA.EDU writes:
>I was at an Odetta concert last Wednesday (which was wonderful) and she
>mentioned Josh White.  This reminded me of his son, Josh White Jr. who
>played the coffeehouse circuit during the 60's and 70's.  I haven't
>heard from or of him in a long time.  Any help out there?  I'd appreciate
>an E-mail response--I'm not a regular (at least yet).  Thanks!
>
I saw Josh White, Jr., sometime last year (can't remember the exact date).
He was playing in Annapolis with The Hard Traveler's.  I assume that 
he is still playing the circuit.

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From: filfeit@rael.Tymnet.COM (Fil Feit)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: The Monster Dog Doo Doo Band??
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:29:39 GMT
Reply-To: filfeit@rael.Tymnet.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems

In article 21064@henson.cc.wwu.edu, lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu (lopresti robert) writes:
>
>Let me just remind you of my favorite Bonzo Dog song...
>
>"Mr Apollo."
>
>Neil Innes sings about Mr APollo, the body-building man, and then
>Vivian Stanshall comes on and advertizes the non-existant
>exercize course, which includes the immortal line:
>
>"Five years ago I was a four stone apology.  TOday I  am two
>seperate gorillas!"
>
>You bet.


Gee, I always liked "Hunting Tigers Out In India"  And they do a fine
rendition of "Suspicion".

But Mr. Apollo is good, too.

--f2
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  "He's the strongest man
   The world has ever seen.
   And if you take his courses,
   He'll make you big and rough."

Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: pdlemass@unix2.tcd.ie (Something original)
Subject: The Monster Dog Doo Doo Band??
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:56:13 GMT

Has anyone else heard of this band ????????
I was told by someone that they reminded him of "The Incredible String
Band" .
Is this a fair comparison ??
Any stuff still available ????????
All info most welcome .
Thanks in advance ,
                     Peter Lemass (pdlemass@unix2.tcd.ie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: dmandl@shearson.com (David Mandl)
Subject: Re: OUTBACK
Reply-To: dmandl@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:15:34 GMT

In article n3E@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk, jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin) writes:
>billd@informix.com (William Daul) wrote:
>> I just picked up a CD from the Australian section in Tower Records.  It is
>> called OUTBACK - Dance The Devil Away.  WOW!!!  What a find.  It is a blend
>> of international instruments and styles.   Here is a rundown of instruments
>> that seem to be in most selections:
>
>....including the...
>
>> Melodica
>
>What a blast from the past.  My parents got one of those, apparently just
>for the hell of it as neither of them could play anything, when I was a
>kid.  For those who haven't seen one: acoustically it's a mouth-organ, only
>you blow it from one end and notes only sound when you press a key.  The
>keys are arranged like on a piano except that they all pivot from the
>centre, which means you get to play the white notes with your right hand
>and the black notes with your left.  

These are actually used pretty often in reggae.  Check out just about
any Augustus Pablo record.

   --Dave.

Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons)
Subject: Re: 5 minute hamlet - poor hamlet
Organization: Inland Sea
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 02:44:37 GMT

ccksb@trentu.ca (Ken Brown) writes:

>Here's Oor Hamlet...thanks to Andrew Draskoy (andrew@bransle.ucs.mun.ca)

>From the collection of Andrew Draskoy, andrew@bransle.ucs.mun.ca

>Oor Hamlet - by Adam McNaughtan, to the tune of Mason's Apron

Also seems to work as a talking blues . . .
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From: lanih@herald.Berkeley.EDU (J. Lani Herrmann)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Versions of "White Collar Holler?"
Date: 21 Jan 1993 18:19:25 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
Distribution: world
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I vaguely remember something about this, but disremember if it was on
this group or some other. That post also included the
fact that it appears in Rise Up Singing and is attributed to the
Real Author, Nigel Russell, although Stan Rogers' Fogarty's Cove
holds the copyright (1979). 
	Just So You Know. -- Lani

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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: Songs of the Subcontinent?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:23:15 GMT


Didn't Rudyard Kipling write a bunch of songs besides his
short stories? There is a lot in the current English language
and slang that borrows from the Indian languages. 

My guess about the dearth of surviving songs is that the 
English weren't there to settle, but as administrators of
the Empire. Perhaps for the most part the English were of 
the upper class and spent much of their time listening to
Mozart or Handel rather than traditional reels, jigs and 
English folksongs. They would work in India for several 
tens of years and return to England to retire. They sent 
their children to English public schools. The lower classes 
were made up of Indians who had their own rich musical tra-
dition.

A similar example would perhaps be Britain's colonies in 
Africa (Uganda, Kenya, Tanzania etc.). The only song I 
can think of that comes from there is the ubiquitous "Kum-
baya". Here, however, a large number of brits did stay
as settlers.




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From: pavlovic@ehsc.orst.edu (James Pavlovich)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: song of Carrol's "Jabberwocky"
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:28:41 GMT
Organization: Environmental Health Sciences Center, Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: massspec2-0073-e.als.orst.edu

Years ago when I was in grade school (@1970).  I heard an 
album of famous poems set to music.  "Jabberwocky", "The Vinegar Man", and "
Annabel Lee" are the titles that stand out.  They were in a style similar to 
that of the Kingston Trio.  I have never been able to locate this record or 
remember the artist.  Does this ring a bell with anyone?  I would like to 
track it down if I could.

Thanks

James
(pavlovij@ucs.orst.edu)
From: crittend@cs.unc.edu (Brad Crittenden)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: What was that Leo Kottke Song on Austin City Limits?
Date: 25 Jan 1993 01:15:00 -0500
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra.cs.unc.edu

In article <9032@news.duke.edu> tbd@neuro.duke.edu (Tristan Davies) writes:
>I was watching Leo Kottke on Austin City Limits this weekend. The show
>was a new one, I think; Mark Cohn was the other half of the show.
>Anyway, I loved Leo and his playing, but I really liked the song
>that he spoke over with repeated phrases, such as "and you crawl out
>of bed and you crawl out of bed and you crawl out of bed..." Is this
>the title track from his "My Father's Face" record? What's the story behind the
>song? Did LK write the lyrics or are they a poem that someone else
>wrote? Et cetera.
>

the song is "Jack Gets Up".  it is indeed on _my father's face_.
the cd liner notes don't have lyrics but does say that all songs were
written by kottke.

i've always loved that song even though it reminds me of a one of the
more dreary, monotonous periods of my life.

snort fort & modified snow peas,

brad
From: rm4@st-andrews.ac.uk (Rosa Michaelson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Mouth Music and Capercaillie Update?
Date: 22 Jan 93 11:38:40 GMT
Organization: Dundee University

Mouth Music: a friend in edinburgh who is a close friend of the main
Mouth Music man (keyboards and composition (name eludes brain)), phoned me
recently to tell me of the release of a new MM disc. However he said it
was due Easter time.... I belive this is the third and that the vocalist
has changed again - so no Mairi McInnes(?).

I will post further details as and when they are announced - scanning
the Scotsman on Sat folk bit is the usually most reliable way of finding
when an item is actually released..or looking in the shops, I suppose.

Capercaille: The band (without the percusionist) gave a live broadcast
on the New Years Eve program hosted by Phil Cunningham and the gaelic
woman announcer that wears tartan hot pants. I was playing at the
Dalmahoy Country Club and forgot to turn on the video but friends report
a pleasant set of tunes. Strangley enough the show included Aly Bain
and Donovan - not playing together...I know that Donald and Karen were
not too affected by the crash.
From: n9040513@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Andrea Aldridge)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Misundertood Lyrics to "Kokomo"
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:09:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1993Jan22.230912.3845
Distribution: usa
Organization: Western Washington University

In article <1993Jan22.131454.1@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu> cowan@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu (P.L. Cowan) writes:
>When my daughter was 4 she used to sing the Beach Boy's song from the 
>movie Cocktail, "Kokomo", including the line, "mounds of rotten steak."
>I honestly don't know to this day what the words actually are.

With no context to place it, the line in question didn't occur to me until
I was singing it to myself on the way out of the computer lab:

"Martinique...that Montserrat mystique."

Much nicer than decomposed cow flesh. :-)

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From: hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg (C R Pennell)
Subject: Re: Songs of the Subcontinent?
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 21:47:38 GMT

 ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:
: 
: Didn't Rudyard Kipling write a bunch of songs besides his
: short stories? There is a lot in the current English language
: and slang that borrows from the Indian languages. 
: 
: My guess about the dearth of surviving songs is that the 
: English weren't there to settle, but as administrators of
: the Empire. Perhaps for the most part the English were of 
: the upper class and spent much of their time listening to
: Mozart or Handel rather than traditional reels, jigs and 
: English folksongs. They would work in India for several 
: tens of years and return to England to retire. They sent 
: their children to English public schools. The lower classes 
: were made up of Indians who had their own rich musical tra-
: dition.
: 
: A similar example would perhaps be Britain's colonies in 
: Africa (Uganda, Kenya, Tanzania etc.). The only song I 
: can think of that comes from there is the ubiquitous "Kum-
: baya". Here, however, a large number of brits did stay
: as settlers.
: 
	So there should be a white Anglophone South African tradition. Is
there? 

Richard Pennell History NUS.
From: cowan@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu (P.L. Cowan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Misundertood Songs Lyrics (Literally)
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:14:54 -0800
Organization: SSRL, Stanford Synchrotron Radiation Lab
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu

When my daughter was 4 she used to sing the Beach Boy's song from the 
movie Cocktail, "Kokomo", including the line, "mounds of rotten steak."
I honestly don't know to this day what the words actually are.

-- 
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From: ann@ukc.ac.uk (A.N.North)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Strawbs CD Box?
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:00:03 GMT
Reply-To: ann@ukc.ac.uk (A.N.North)
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

In article <murphy.727800018@well.sf.ca.us> murphy@well.sf.ca.us (Daniel A. Murphy) writes:
>
>
>I understand there's supposed to be some sort of CD box set of Strawbs
>recordings.  Is this out yet?  If not, does anyone know when it will be
>released?
>-- 
>-------------------

I haven't heard anything about the box set. I do know that all of their
albums have been available in Britain on CD. However some only as imports
from either Canada or Japan. More recently I have seen copies of 
'Old school songs' by Dave Cousins and Brian Willouhgby in our local CD
store. (I already have it on vinyl its a good acoustic sampling of 
previous Strawbs stuff.) 

I do know that the Strawbs are touring in the UK at the moment (25th
anniversary tour) and I am going to see them on Sunday and the 
following Thursday. I will enquire about a box set and post any information
I get.

I list below all the Strawbs albums I know of, anyone know of anymore?

Dragonfly
Dressed Salad
All our own work (re-released recently as Sandy Denny and the Strawbs)
From the witchwood
Ghosts
Deep Cuts
Bursting at the seams
Hero and Heroine
Deadlines
Nomadness
Antiques and curios
Dont Say goodbye 
Ringing down the years - a recent release. Some reworking of old songs
                         and a handful of new including a sentimental
                         tribute to Sandy Denny.

Dave Cousins has also released two solo/semi-solo albums

Two weeks last summer 
Old school songs
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: slewis@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sarah L Lewis)
Subject: Re: Sally Fingerette?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:44:38 GMT

In article <MARTIN.93Jan21101127@lyra.cis.umassd.edu> martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin) writes:
>
>The liner notes to the first 4BB album lists an earlier album as well:
>Sally Fingerett Encl/sf  (which I assume says something about her
>day job before the Babes were born).  An address is given, but I
>vaguely recall some discussion here about a year ago that indicated
>that the company (Amerisound Studios, Columbus OH) no longer existed.
>But my memory has this habit of being wrong whenever it's not right.
>
>--
>Gary A. Martin, Assistant Professor of Mathematics, UMass Dartmouth
>Martin@cis.umassd.edu

As far as I know, Amerisound's still out there; Sally Fingerett's
first album was just released on CD on that label.  It also goes
by the title "Enclosed."  One of the songs on it, "Wildberries,"
was also on the "On a Winter's Night" compilation... one of the 
best on there, imo. 

Sarah
From: martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: "Amazing Grace" - Origin Folklore
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:32:19 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth

In article <1k76b8INNpov@mojo.eng.umd.edu> dbader@eng.umd.edu (David Bader) writes:

   In article <rpcfod-260193173827@rpcfod.worldbank.org>, rpcfod@worldbank.org (Robert Patt-Corner) writes:
   >Recently I've been told a remarkable story about the way that the
   >well-known hymn "Amazing Grace" came to be written.

   I have Arlo Guthrie on tape talking about the origins of Amazing Grace.  
   It was written by John Newman, who was the English captain of a slave ship
   out of Africa.  One day, he woke up and decided what he was doing was 
   wrong, and turned that ship around, back to Africa. 

Are you sure it wasn't a 3-hour cruise that got shipwrecked on a little
island in the Pacific?  According to the Chenille Sisters, it can be
sung to the tune of the Gilligan's Island theme.

--
Gary A. Martin, Assistant Professor of Mathematics, UMass Dartmouth
Martin@cis.umassd.edu
From: murph@eagle.larc.nasa.gov (Kelly Jean Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Christine Lavin Songbook
Date: 22 Jan 1993 15:48:58 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Reply-To: murph@eagle.larc.nasa.gov (Kelly Jean Murphy)
NNTP-Posting-Host: macmurphy.larc.nasa.gov

  This is an update on the "Christine Lavin Songbook."

I've seen several postings in this group and others in previous months.  I've been 
in contact with Mary Lavin (Christine's sister) and her husband Tom (I can't 
remember his last name, but he used to be Christine's road manager.), and they 
have asked me to post some corrections to the info previously distributed:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

COST:   $16.95  (I think that's slightly lower than before-maybe it's an after  
                            Christmas sale.)

NEW ADDRESS:   313 Mulberry St.
                            	  Rochester, NY 14620
			   	  (716) 442-1277

***Important Change***

MAKE CHECKS PAYABLE TO:   Mary Lavin  (Evidently, they are receiving 
								     		lots of checks made payable to
								   	 	"the Christine Lavin Songbook
								     		Project" which they are unable
								    		 to cash.)

Tom said people should call if they are interested in an autographed copy.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 

I ordered a copy from Tom and Mary over the phone, and they are extremely nice 
people to deal with.  In fact, the copy I ordered was for a Christmas gift, and they 
mailed it off to me 2-day mail.  Said I could send 'em a check when I got around 
to it.  Pretty trusting folks.  I looked at the book a bit before I gave it away, and I 
think I will be ordering one for myself shortly.  It's absolutely hysterical!

This is my first post to this news group, although I've been reading it awhile.
I've really gotten a lot of great info from everyone who posts.  Thanks!  I'll try to 
return the favors.


												Kelly
From: dmr@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Daniel Rosenblum)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Arkansas music
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:40:21 GMT
Organization: Rutgers University, Graduate School of Management, Newark, N.J.

There's also the old one that Lee Hays used to sing, and that I
can't remember the name of (it might have been "The State of
Arkansas") and just recall some pieces of:

   My name is Charlie Brennan; from Charleston I come.
   I've traveled this wide world over; some ups and downs I've had.
   I've traveled this wide world over; some ups and downs I saw,
   But I never really knew what misery was, 'til I hit old Arkansas.

   ***

   I followed my conductor to his respected place,
   Where pity and starvation were to be seen on every face.
   His bread, it was corn dodger, and his meat I could not chaw,
   But he charged me a half a dollar in the State of Arkansas.

It then goes on to a long spoken story about working for an
Arkansas character and getting paid in various animal hides.

Speaking of parodies (another thread), there was a parody of this
after Arkansas Governor Orval Faubus tried to block any integration
of the public schools in Arkansas.  It began "My name is Orval
Faubus, I'm the Governor of this State."  My recollection is that
it was on one of the old Pete Seeger _Gazette_ albums on Folkways,
although it might have been on another one of his albums.  (Yet
another thread!  Just think, this one post refers to three threads,
and I wasn't even trying to do that!)
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