HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Subject: Re: Joke
Followup-To: soc.bi
Originator: lunde@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Reply-To: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 23:43:27 GMT

In article <17977@acorn.co.uk> osmith@acorn.co.uk (Owen Smith) writes:
>I was thinking about how accepting bi-space seems to be of almost everyone
>and anyone, and the following picture sprang into my mind. I thought I'd
>share it since it amused me:
>
>A green martian with too many tentaces slithers into a soc.bi bring-a-bottle
>party. It says "Hi, I'm a quinti-sexual bi-species invading martian with a
>diamond tipped laser pseudo-penis. Have I got the right house?" The host
>replies "Sure, come right in." Then he notices the martian hasn't brought a
>bottle with it, so he says "Hang on a minute, this is a bring-a-bottle
>party. There's an off license just round the corner with a cash machine over
>the road from it. See you in five minutes."
>
>
>Well I thought it was funny,
>
>Owen.
"The longest and most destructive party ever held is now in its 
fourth generation and still no one shows any sings of leaving"...
"So, other factors come into operation, like when the drinks are going
to run out" (LtU&E by Douglas Adams) ;)


-- 
 Albert Lunde         | Interfaith  |     *Y*Y*      "A branch on the
 Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu |  Bisexual   |      *Y*        tree of life"
 alunde@nuacvm.bitnet |  Feminist   |.......|.........................
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: sara@blkhole.resun.com (Organization: News Addicts)
Subject: Re: Appreciate Me Now and Avoid the Rush!
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 12:13:20 GMT
Reply-To: sara@castle.ed.ac.uk
Organization: News Addicts


no1important@heavens_gate.alpha.centauri writes:

> gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal) says:

Pizzabox?  *Another* account??  Is this your new site?

>>That fits.  You'd have to buy... quick sums... two V32bis modems to make
>>it worth while.  400 pounds each over here; $240 over there.

>Damn, that's heavy!! :-)
>I know. only the americans will get this *pout*

Not so; contrary to what appears to be popular US belief, we Brits
(the slightly older ones anyway (only *slightly* mark you)) still use
Imperial weight measures; and miles for that matter (altho not for
measuring weights of course ...).
From: ELAINE@brownvm.brown.edu (Elaine M. Brennan)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Cool Spots for Bis (Was the War Between Us
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:27:29 EDT
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: brownvm.brown.edu
News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta

In article <1992Aug19.062258.9122@midway.uchicago.edu>,
orc@usite-next.uchicago.edu (David Parsons) said:

>   Um, er, yeah.  Whoever indeed.  Though I will note that I did not
>swoon (saying "oh, swoon!" doesn't count), nor propose marriage (at
>least not in the context of the hot tub in question.)  Any reports to
>the contrary are slightly exaggerated.

hmm ... my sources had best learn to give better reports of the
conversations ...

>   Can I visit Providence?   I promise to be good.
>                 __
>   david parsons \/ orc@pell.chi.il.us

well, I *could* just make an executive decision, or I could
toss the question out to all the rest of the folks who've got
dibs on our guest room -- but since all the reports *I've*
received have been positive, sure ...!  just let us know when
you're planning on showing up (with any luck, by then most of
the books will have migrated into bookcases.)

Elaine
From: fenthe@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Introduction
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:55:06 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid) writes:
>And, when they do,
>it's as an individual article, and nearly always done as a demuffining
>(or, more accurately, Invocation of the Welcome Wagon). 

 Well, for what (little) it's worth, when I demuffined, at least, I
didn't know the Welcome Wagon existed; I knew the /group/ existed,
but wasn't reading it until a couple of days before I de-muffined; I
guess the main reason I posted was that I was (and still am) feeling
very good about that aspect of myself; and I wanted to tell everyone.

>In fact, I'll crosspost this to soc.bi and see what people think... I
>imagine that it might turn out like an electronic version of "Bisexual
>Lives"; and that would be no bad thing at all.

 I, at least, think it would be a good idea; though an ftp site
rather than posting would seem (to me) to be a better idea; I have
visions of people reading soc.bi for the first time and seeing
autobiographies turning up; and feeling obliged to do the same - or,
at least, put off by them. Making them available, on the other hand,
is definitely a good thing - knowing other people are out there, and
are going through/have gone through the same things and come out the
other side happily, helps a great deal. 

 Something like this has the other advantage of anonymity; when
someone might not feel ready to go into a bookshop and buy 'Bi Any
Other Name' or similar, just ftp'ing something is something they can
do far more easily; and has the advantage of not implying anything to
anyone other than themselves.

 -- Fenthe
From: sara@castle.ed.ac.uk (S Hopkins)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Appreciate Me Now and Avoid the Rush!
Date: 20 Aug 92 02:29:39 GMT
Organization: News Addicts

orc@usite-next.uchicago.edu (David Parsons) writes:

>  Or, alternatively, you can ask someone from the land of El-cheapo PC
>bits to pick up a PC and modem and deliver it (totally illegally, I'm
>sure...) when I^Hthey next visit the UK.

Yes please!  And knowing you, despite the fact that I only saw you last
at the weekend, I'll probably see you again next week sometime, so you
can bring it then!  >{8-)

Sara
-- 
 >{8-)     Sara Hopkins     (-8}<              _____^__
 Geography Dept.  Edinburgh Uni.  Drummond St. \ OOO/ / The Thing
 Edinburgh,  EH8  9XP,  UK. +44 (0/31) 650 2662 \++/ /   From
 >{8-) sara@geovax.ed.ac.uk (-8}<                \/\/ The Swamp
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: johnf@uhheph.phys.hawaii.edu (John Flanagan)
Subject: Re: Gender difference?
Organization: University of Hawaii, Dept. of Physics & Astronomy
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:14:49 GMT

In article <AAG.92Aug17105721@sibyl.aber.ac.uk> aag@aber.ac.uk (Angela Gilham) writes:
>
>Hmmmmm. I'm somewhat chary of getting into this debate, but I'll
>dip a toe in anyway. The lingering effects are, in my admittedly 
>limited experience (all offers allowing me to widen my data sample
>considered on their merits with almost no prejudice ;-) very different
>between vaginal and anal sex. I've had problems explaining how
>the feelings of penetration differ between the two when describing
>some of my experiences, but for me at least, the vaginal penetration
>definitely lasts longer and is more intense (although again that 
>can be a partner-dependent variable (yeah, I know that's a bit
>vague and mealy-mouthed)). The quiet, pleasure filled squirm of
>good anal sex, punctuated by the odd rapid dash for the toilet
>(unfortunately two floors down at work ;-), just doesn't last as
>long.

Now I'm jealous.  You mean it's even better to be the vaginal
receptive partner than the anal receptive partner? 

On the other hand, to even the score, I've got a prostate, so maybe I
get a bit of a boost there.

>You can meet 
>the man the next day, the next morning over breakfast, in fact, and
>whilst he's busy with the coffee and the cornflakes, and as far as 
>one can tell, thoroughly unscractched by the whole experience, 
>you've still got acheing muscles by the score. It's thoroughly 
>unnerving to be confronted by somebody who seems to be getting 
>on with life as normal whilst you can't forget about what you've
>done for days, because your body keeps on giving you very intimate
>reminders. 

I've had this experience.  Cooing to one's partner the next day, "Ooh,
I can still feel you" while wiggling one's butt in satisfaction, only
to be greeted by quizzical bemusement.

>Occasionally I wonder if this is one of the reasons why
>women, in general, tend to be slightly more obsessive about
>relationships than men.

I'm not sure that this has been my experience.  I've met some pretty
darned obsessive men (and have been one myself), as well as some
women who are very good at separating work and play.  I'm not saying
you are wrong, I'm just not sure I can provide confirming data.  In
most of the cases of obsessiveness that I have encountered, there have
been pretty good personal-history explanations for it.

--John
-- 
John Flanagan                          ||
johnf@uhheph.phys.hawaii.edu           ||"This is an estimable attitude in a
U. of Hawaii, Dept. of Physics & Astro.|| second-year high-school student."
2505 Correa Rd., Honolulu, HI 96822    ||              -- Norbert Wiener
From: angi@festival.ed.ac.uk (Angi Lamb)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Gender difference?
Date: 16 Aug 92 22:22:32 GMT

A less obvious gender difference occurred to me.  After i've been
vaginally (mine that is) intimate with someone, I am physically aware of
the penetration for up to 2-4 days afterwards.  I did a quick survey. 
The women agreed.  The men hadn't heard of the lingering effects before
and it didn't happen to them. 

I got to wondering what emotional effects this could have.  I wonder if
that explains why men (in general) find it easier to compartmentalise
the different parts of their life than women do? If you can feel the
physical effect of a lover days afterwards, thoughts of them are bound
to surface more readily. 

Any comments?

Angi
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: bx304@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Epler)
Subject: Re: Tech Post, no content whatsoever (was Re: Alt.sex.wizards)
Reply-To: bx304@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Epler)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 03:41:59 GMT


In a previous article, dente@els.ee.man.ac.uk (Colin Dente) says:

>And Apple disk drives were the business - the worlds least elegant way of finding
>track 0 on power up, but they'd read *anything*.  I once saw someone take a
>disk, which was folded into four, out of his back pocket, unfold it, put it
>in the drive, and boot from it!

Oh yeah?  Well I once ripped the outside off a Commodore disk,
fingerprinted/spilled/used as a coster the magnetic surface, and used
the game on it about a month later...

Beat that.

-- 
|Jeff Epler               Additions Welcome           c(-8 ;-) >{8-) |
| :) (=( =-] (-= Celebrating the variety of faces =-> :^) {-= |-) (: |
|                                                   Lincoln, Nebraska|
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver)
Subject: Re: Iseult, Tanaquai and crutches (was: That bloody War )
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 22:34:56 GMT

iw@tosser.Rational.COM (Iseult White) writes:
>tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver) writes:
>
>>Dunno what to make of this, except to defy your femmey role & say "You're
>>the Boss" |-) & me? Provide floor show entertainment? What a shocking thought:
>>you'll ruin my carefully cultivated aura of innocence....
>
>Innocent????   I will have to check with Sara and Ellen as to whether or
>not that is a word that can be used in conjunction with you.  Somehow
>I doubt it.

I didn't exactly plead innocence... I accused you of attacking the aura of such
that I maintain so carefully & exactly in public |-)

Tanaqui


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From: duncan@ravel.ati.com (Jim Duncan)
Newsgroups: soc.bi,soc.motss
Subject: Re: queer brains?
Date: 18 Aug 92 02:27:37 GMT
Reply-To: duncan@ravel.ati.com (Jim Duncan)
Organization: KUFX 94.5 FM Stereo, San Jose, CA 'The Fox'

In article <l8mgv7INNe0q@nunki.usc.edu> silverma@nunki.usc.edu (David Silverman) writes:

>The way I see it, there is no proof that homosexuality is biological. 

Earlier this summer the very progressive CBC (Canadian Broadcasting
Corp.) broadcast an elaborate documentary in three one-hour segments on
their summer "Witness" series.  Presented was luxuriant, detailed
research demonstrating that sexual orientation, indeed one's gender 
outlook, was substantially a biological phenomenon having to do with a
jillion interelated factors. Clearly, the presence of certain physical
hardware configurations is just one of a huge variety of indicators
that place a given individual on a seemingly infinite gender continuum.
The point of the entire documentary is that there are endless gender
outlook possibilities - all perfectly natural and primarily biological
in origin!

The last segment was followed by an academic roundtable where the
points were further discussed.  I wrote the CBC with comments on this
absolutely fascinating documentary, and they replied that indeed
"a few feathers were ruffled". The CBC is available in the US with any
typical home satellite system, which is how I see it.

The CBC representative indicated that The Discovery Channel has second
broadcast rights for the documentary, but I bet they'll be too chicken
to air it!  In any case, one might still want to see if/when they'll
put it on. This documentary, titled "Brain Sex", would fascinate anyone. 
-- 
KUFX |      w  ["]                            | WA6MBV     
94.5 |...   |___|_____..duncan@ravel.ati.com  | Jim Duncan  
FM   |          H                             | ----------   
********  \_____I_____/  37 3 10N/121 59 10W  ************** 
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: orc@usite-next.uchicago.edu (David Parsons)
Subject: Re: The War Between Us (Long)
Organization: Ministry of Skritching
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:23:34 GMT

In article <AAG.92Aug12232938@artemis.aber.ac.uk> aag@aber.ac.uk (Angela Gilham) invited blatant flirts by writing:
|So surprise us! Gaylaxicon is in Chicago next year, and there are
|people on this side of the Atlantic pondering holidays in the US
|next year, with Gaylaxicon as one of the points of reference ;-)

   Angela's gonna be in chicago next year???

   *Swoon*  <thump>

		 __
   david parsons \/ orc@pell.chi.il.us
From: iw@tosser.Rational.COM (Iseult White)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: And the saga continues
Date: 14 Aug 92 07:15:41 GMT
Distribution: soc.bi

sharon@pomona.claremont.edu writes:


>Hey, I saw YOU eyeing Iseult's "crutch," sweetie... personally, I
>think she just uses it to get girls! :-)

It didn't work on you.  And I really was working that crutch after
witnessing your astounding hand action.  Such squirting power ... what
can I say.  (WET springs to mind).

>Sharon, wondering what the hell she's *still* doing in Southern California

I have to admit I'm wondering too!  We do have the best crutches here.

Iseult.
Newsgroups: soc.bi,soc.motss
From: bx304@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Epler)
Subject: Re: Prediction of the Republican National Convention
Reply-To: bx304@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Epler)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 03:38:34 GMT



(You know, my newsreader seems to have a 'feature' -- If an article is
cross-posted, a followup goes to only the group I'm reading unless I
change it myself..)

In a previous article, tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli) says:

>Maybe, but soc.bi and soc.motss are where I hang out, and
>I wanted to discuss them here.

Well I guess I should be flattered instead then...

-- 
|Jeff Epler               Additions Welcome           c(-8 ;-) >{8-) |
| :) (=( =-] (-= Celebrating the variety of faces =-> :^) {-= |-) (: |
|                                                   Lincoln, Nebraska|
From: keisha@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Coed of the Damned)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Goodbye (for now)
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:21:57 GMT
Reply-To: keisha@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Coed of the Damned)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: keisha@mickey.cc.utexas.edu

Feh.  I finally get the guts to post stuff and meet people here at
soc.bi, and now I have to leave. 

Yup, that's right.  Coming Sunday I will not have access to any
computer equipment to log in until I get to CA, and then God
knows how long it'll take them to get me an account, then I have
to set up a mailing and readnews protocol and all this other
garbage, which basically amounts to this: I will be away from
all the loving, supportive people here.

I'm not sure how the system at my new school works, but I've heard
ugly rumors that IT COSTS.  So I will have limited access to
newsgroups because of billing of CPU time, or something.  (I 
don't really understand exactly how all this computer stuff works,
I just know that here at UT everything was set up for me already
and it was all free, except for printing costs.)

But I will try to be back.  In the short time that I've been here, I've
grown to enjoy the loving, open-minded attitudes of the people
here, not to mention their playfulness and willingness to flirt!
And I want to come back and love and play and flirt along with
everyone else.

And if all else fails, I'll mail my articles back to someone here and
have them post them.  So there.  :-P

Freedom, love, joy, and peace to all of you and your loved ones,

--keisha (who's looking forward to going someplace new,
	  but will still miss all her friends a whole helluva lot)
`
From: n8946410@animal.cc.wwu.edu (Cameron Parish)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Some button badge slogans/designs
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:56:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Aug20.165621.13459
Organization: Western Washington University

In article <1992Aug19.222954.11399@news.acns.nwu.edu> Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) writes:
>
>Folks at the national BiNet conference were wearing T-shirts in one photo
>which said:
>
> Nobody _Believes_ I'm Bisexual 


	*hee hee hee*  That's perfect!  Does anyone know where I can get
one of those? (or do I have to get off me duff and make one myself? Fat
chance...)

Cam Parish
From: pclary@mushroom.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Bethan's Birthday Greetings
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:38:52 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo, CA - aka Barnum & Bailey

bx304@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Epler) wrote...
>>In article <memo.566504@cix.compulink.co.uk> (soc.bi), cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace) writes:
>>> Hippo Birdy Two Ewes,
>>> Hippo Birdy Two Ewes,
>>> Hippo Birdy, Dear Ewe,
>>> Hippo Birdy Two Ewes
>>
>
>You know, I've seen a similar card for christmas.  Something like
>'wee fish ewe a mare egets moose' (I'm not sure about 'wee fish' -- I
>think the fish was small. The words were written above for the benefit
>of the impaired.  But you get the idea.)

The cards are done by Sandra Boynton.  Definite classics.

Ellen
From: dente@els.ee.man.ac.uk (Colin Dente)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: the "oh" experience
Date: 21 Aug 92 10:20:25 GMT
Reply-To: dente@els.ee.man.ac.uk (Colin Dente)
Organization: Department of Electrical Engineering, University of Manchester

Omaha,

I don't have any comment to make on your post 'cos I don't have any
experience of the sorts of situations about which you are talking.

I just wanted to say "Welcome" - seeing you here is like meeting an old
friend - Elf has told us all so much (all good :-)) about you, it's great
to actually "meet" you at last.

Hugs 'n' stuff

Colin
-- 
  Colin Dente                     | JANET: dente@uk.ac.manchester
  Manchester Computing Centre     | ARPA:  dente@manchester.ac.uk
  University of Manchester, UK    | UUCP:  ...!mcsun!ukc!manchester!dente
   ... Blatantly Bisexual ...     | B3/4 f+ c g+(+) k(+) r s
Newsgroups: soc.bi,alt.polyamory
From: jla@lucid.com (Joseph Arceneaux)
Subject: Re: alt.personals and enforced monogamy
Organization: The GNU Project
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 16:52:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.145700.11133@brtph560.bnr.ca> JB <jbl@mesaadm.cre.nt.com> writes:
>In article <36981@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> John Clark, jclark@sdcc3.ucsd.edu
>writes:
>>One of these days even in SD I expect there will be sections like,
>>men looking for other romantic men, couples looking for romantic
>>others, women looking for other romantic women, etc.

Here in San Francisco, the Bay Guardian has all these sections and
more, most notably "Either/Both/Couples".  It seems to contain a
plurality of couples seeking bi-women.  This section has been growing.

Joe
From: chris@unicorn.resun.com (Chris Von Hendy)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: semi-serious question
Date: 17 Aug 92 07:48:20 GMT
Reply-To: chris@unicorn.resun.com
Organization: Metalogic, S.a r.l.
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v3


In article <1992Aug14.210943.1@woods.ulowell.edu> (soc.bi), gilberts@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
> 
> 
> 	Of course there is, a big difference.  At least, as I see it, I did not
> consider myself bisexual until I had fallen in love with a woman.  I 
> believe that a person steps into bisexuality when the emotions of passion and 
> love come along with the desire for sex.  Just having sex with a member of the 
> same sex does not constitute bisexuality, at least not in my book. 

Ha, caught you!  Trying to de-muffin quietly and behind my back, huh? 
Well, it didn't work. 

Pounce.  Hug.  Slurp.  Hm, tasty, think I'll do that some more. ;-) 
Slurp, starting from shoulders and moving ever so slowly down towards
your feet.

Welcome to soc.bi.
> 
> -Kiana
> 
> ---
> Never let you morals intefere with what is right.

Hear, hear.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Von Hendy            "If we shadows have offended,
Escondido, California       Think but this, and all is mended,
ncr-sd!blkhole!chris  or    That you have but slumbered here,
chris@unicorn.resun.com     While these visions did appear." Puck
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: panda@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden)
Subject: Re: Joke
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 08:08:07 EDT

osmith@acorn.co.uk (Owen Smith) writes:

> I was thinking about how accepting bi-space seems to be of almost everyone

Well, yes: why not?  In most cases, we've been there - wherever "there" may 
be.  I'm sorry to hear about your loneliness.  I have a bit of a 
loneliness-phobia, and even though I am probably the most socially ative 
person I know, there is still a bit of me that is a lonely adolescent 
wondering why there are no dates, no close friend.

One of the problems with lonely people sometimes is that they get uptight 
about it.... Have you tried saying something to your roommate like, "Hey,c 
an I come along too?"  It might be they all think you aren't interested.

I found it interesting that you feared that friendships with men weren't 
forming because you were maybe too feminine then list your interests which 
are all male-oriented.  Try a few female-oriented interests!  As the only 
male in a group of knitters or dancers or whatever you might find yourself 
getting a lot of attention.

Whatever you try, good luck.  I cried a lot when I was in an unhappy 
marriage with a possessive man.  Seldom before, seldom since; life isn't 
meant for unhappiness.  Hang in there.  Learn to breathe deeply and 
appreciate beauty....

Namaste,
Elizabeth
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Bisexuality and DEC PDP's... is there a link?
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:15:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.001630.1114@wolves.uucp> wolfe@wolves.uucp (G. Wolfe Woodbury) writes:

>There are strong reports that exposure to IBM software is highly
>correlated with SM behaviour too!  :-)

And is it any wonder?

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "Bisexual just means you pay for it."
\  / twpierce@amherst.edu      /  
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /   -- Rock Hudson
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