From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: JFH and Fred's Ridiculous Flaming
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:53:50 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc

In <1992Sep15.001153.8242@NeoSoft.com> rocky@NeoSoft.com (Joe Mullally) writes:

>	Fred, are you out there? If so, I'd like to make a statement.
>John puts me in his kill file, or ignores my posts and claims I'm in his
>kill file, for good reason. I scare him. I _do_ post references,
>I _don't_ knee-jerk, I _do_ save old news, I _don't_ mimic unnaceptable
>answers. He does play with you. You're easily discounted. And it's not
>because you're not making valid claims, it's because you simply refuse
>to back yourself up. I'm usually in agreement with you, but _if_
>you were on my team in a debate, I'd tell you to do some work, or
>quit making us look like fools! Now, I know you won't accept that we're
>on some sort of team,because you are (IMHO)the sort who wants to go to a 
>cocktail party and be the "authority" on everything, w/o question. Well,
>here in this group, we question. Here in this group, we have folks that'll
>take advantage of your laziness, or lack of time, whichever way you prefer
>to define it. Join the JFH "ignore/maybe you're in my kill file" group.
>Post references. Save news that disturbs you, posts you know you'll be
>referring back to. Or, as would be any child's reflex, don't, since 
>(Ghod forbid) someone besides you thought of and suggested it.

Joe, you seem to be getting your characterization of me by listening
to John.  Should I listen to you about you, or should I listen to John
about you?  And while we're at it, should I listen to you to determine
what I think, or should I listen to me?

Where have you been, Joe?  References haven't made a damned bit of
difference.  Look back at the 'great brainwave debate'.  I posted
references showing that at the point where John's sources claim that
there are 'readable human brainwaves', the parts of the brain
responsible for higher functions DON'T EVEN EXIST.  His reference was
a pro-life book or pamphlet, mine was a textbook for obstetric nurses.
Did any of that make any difference?  Of course not.  

What was John's response?  To talk about how there is a procedure
where half the brain is removed.  In that post, even John made a point
of stating that they leave the other half of the brain, including the
upper part which is responsible for human brainwaves.  Note that that
'upper part' is the cerebrum, and it doesn't exist at 40 days, when
John has sources saying that there are readable human brainwaves.
Also note that there is NO operation where they go in and remove the
cerebrum and cerebellum [since this tends to leave you with a patient
who would be in a persistent vegetative state].

His other disagreements?  That he can see things in his home (great
source, that) that disagree with what the nursing bood said, insofar
as things like development of reflexes, autonomic nervous function,
etc. 

So what's the opint of sources?

-- 
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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