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From: tbigham@shearson.com (Tim Bigham)
Subject: Re: Language of Beer (War: Re: Bar Trek (The Old Generation))
Organization: Lehman Brothers, NY
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:04:44 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.205552.17566@Csli.Stanford.EDU> kyle@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Kyle Wohlmut) writes:

>SLAM: A weird process of punching a hole in the bottom of a beer,
>covering the hole with your mouth and then opening the top, thus
>releasing the entire contents of the can into your mouth in under 3
>seconds... only hardened frat boys know how to do this correctly
>(note: 'slam' involves a completely different process for shots)
>

I thought the above was called a "SHOTGUN".


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From: tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Samuel Adams Dopplebock
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:01:06 GMT
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando

In article <Aug07.222545.26063@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> richichi@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Mike Richichi) writes:
>In article <1992Aug7.185903.23132@csc.ti.com> ddudek@dadd.ti.com writes:
>>Chris,
>   
>>They brew it all in Boston (Pittsburgh too unfortunately) and its 
>>gaining popularity pretty quickly.  If you ever have a chance of getting
>>the Dopplebock, get it.  In fact, get me some too, I'll pay big $$$  8>)
>>They also now sell the Lager in Kegs!!  I'm going to a party this 
>>Saturday, and we're getting one, can't wait....
>>
>Cool.  Like I said, the Cream Stout's out there on tap, as well as the
>Winter Lager (had it last Xmas, in fact, drained the bar's last keg!
>Well, there was less than a pint left..)  Probably all their beers are if
>you look hard enough.  The Lager is also brewed in Oregon now, for West
>Coast distribution (that's where the Lager I drink comes from.)  I think
>the other brews are still brewed in Boston or P'burgh.
>
>>If anyone knows exactly when the Dopplebock (Doublebock) is available,
>>I'm all ears....   8)
>I'm pretty sure they mainly brew it in the late winter-early spring, but
>you can get it well into the summer if you're lucky, but the freshness is
>quite different.  We had some in NJ in July.
>
>
>Support American breweries that make good beer!  Change the image of the
>US as a bad beer country!

There is a store here in Orlando that has alot of the Sam Adams
Dopplebock. I've been avoiding it because this is the store that sold
me the bad Sam Smiths. However since everyone seems to recommend this
beer I believe I'll give it a shot tonight.     

Keep those recommendations coming.

Tony Travaglini
tech@cs.ucf.edu
From: dwv@cs.brown.edu (David W. Vorbrich)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Yea!  also Black and Tan question
Date: 14 Aug 1992 22:23:30 GMT
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.cs.brown.edu

I'm SOOOoooooo happy!  After graduating from Tufts U. and moving to Brown, I've
been unable to read this group... NO LONGER SO!

Anyway, enough of my personal elation... I've tried to make black and tan's before,
but just couldn't do it.  Is this possible with bottled stout?  The bartender could
do it on tap with NO problem... quite quickly, no spoon, etc... I was impressed, but
I can't get it at all.

Any insight or personal experience is welcome.

-David V.
 dwv@cs.brown.edu
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From: lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle J. Mackey)
Subject: Re: I agree!
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 04:26:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.204220.25356@afit.af.mil> skatapsk@afit.af.mil (Steven M. Katapski) writes:
>In article <1992Aug7.042534.23602@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> colinl@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Colin Lynch) writes:
>>
>>	Time to re-enrol for Geography 101, pal: Corona is as much American
>>as Steinlager is Australian.
>
>I hate to burst your bubble, but Corona is NOT a U.S. beer!  If you're 
>going to criticize at least get your facts straight, bonehead!

I believe this is what he was saying... Coronoa is no more American than 
Steinlager is Australian.

Unless you meant to say that Steinlager is an Australian beer. In which case,
I'd suggest you get your own facts straight.

ObBeerAvailablity: Is Celis available outside the greater Austin/Central Texas
area yet?  I've been developing a real taste for the Golden, and would like to
be able to find it in other parts of the state/country.



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From: dcb@rosedale.uucp (Dave Breneman)
Subject: Re: SCHULTHEISS-memorabilia
Organization: The Spud Goodman Show
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 16:02:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug5.101733.19920@fokus.gmd.de> mhs@fokus.gmd.de (M.Schmeil) writes:
>
>hi,
>    a friend of mine is a notorious fan of 
>schultheiss-bier (berlin, germany) and collects
>everything (really!) what's about this bier/
>brewery.

Is this any relation the the Schultheiss ("von Rhein") brewery in
the Koblenz area (not sure exactly where)?

>           if you have some stuff in your 
>collection you want to sell or trade please
>email me (martin.schmeil@fokus.gmd.de). he's
>interested in berliner kindl pils thingies
>too.

Unfortunately, everything I have is one-of-a-kind (for me) :-(

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From: matth@progress.COM (Matthew J. Harper)
Subject: Re: Canadian Flamewar (was: Canadian pisswater)
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 10:44:25 GMT

trice@bnr.ca (Tony Rice P885) writes:

>Again this is a matter of taste.  I prefer Bud Dry to Labatts, its less skunky.
>Maybe the export brew is different that the local stuff?  I haven't seen a
>def. answer to this question.

  Perhaps you should be a little more careful where or how you purchase your 
beer.  Beer gets skunky because it's light-struck.

  When I was in college in upstate NY (not too long agao....) I lived on Labatts
'cause I could get a case o' the Blue for $10.  Never (almost never) got a 
skunky bottle, much less a whole batch.  I now know it's because I was getting
it by the case, which kept the light out.

-Matth
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From: lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle J. Mackey)
Subject: Re: Pub Draught Guinness in Chicago!
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 03:07:22 GMT

In article <92226.195553DMALZAHN@HARPERVM.BITNET> Don Malzahn <DMALZAHN@HARPERVM.BITNET> writes:
>
>Course I am sad, because they sold it warm. So I am drinking a Petes  Wicked
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^

As it should be...

>Ale while I wait for the Guinness to chill.

Heathen! Blashpemer! Guinness SHOULD be served at room temperature! Good
lord, man, you've been drinking too many Amerikan pisswater beers!
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From: x1rbrown@exnet.iastate.edu (Roger Brown)
Subject: I.D. this brewery?
Reply-To: x1rbrown@exnet.iastate.edu
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland OH.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 22:01:02 GMT

At the Great Taste of the Midwest in Madison on August 22, one of the 
brewers listed as attending is "Detroit & Mackinac Brewing Co." Des 
anyone know who and where they are? Another attendee is "Midcoast 
Brewing". Same question.

Email direct or through alt.beer. Thanks!!

Roger
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From: king@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (Stephen King)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Bradoor
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:25:00 GMT
Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine

In article <92225.130624ICCEK@ASUACAD.BITNET> ICCEK@ASUACAD.BITNET (Chris Kavanagh) writes:
>Does anyone know of a beer from Canada called Bradoor.  I think it is

Brador, brewed first in Quebec, was introduced into Ontario some years ago
as the premier "malt liquor", at, I believe 7.5% alcohol. I haven't noticed
it in the beer stores lately - perhaps it's been displaced by one of those
American weeweewater clones, Coor's Lite (sic), or Miller, or some other
wretched excuse for beer that seems to be flooding the Canadian market
nowadays.

>the best beer I've ever tasted, but don't know how to get a hold of any.

(1) Go to the lovely country of Quebec.
(2) Enter any grocery store and say, "Est-ce que vous avey de Brador?"
(3) Dont act too confused when the change for your greenbacks is in funny
coloured paper notes.
(4) Drink and be happy.

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From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: The full moon game plan!
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:49:24 GMT
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.

Hey, Brian!  I'm going to be in Boston next month...how's about you
show me all the brewpubs?

(It'll be great...I'll do all the drinking, and he'll do all the talking!  :-)

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From: dcb@rosedale.uucp (Dave Breneman)
Subject: Re: Canadian Flamewar  (was: Canadian pisswater)
Organization: The Spud Goodman Show
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 19:26:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.194520.268@leland.Stanford.EDU> mrbill@leland.Stanford.EDU (William Bowen) writes:
>>
>>>Didn't the real Killian's go under years ago?
>>As far as I know, George Killian's Irish Red Ale is and has always been a Coors
>>product. This is a great beer for weaning friends off of commercial swill.
>
>Actually, Killian's was brewed in Enniscorthy, County Wexford, Ireland. Coors
>bought the name. I don't know if the real Killian's is still brewed.
>
The current owner of the Killain's "brewery" closed it down and
marketed the recipe and name to several brewers around the world.
Coors brews it in the US, and it is brewed in several other countries
too (but I don't have a list).  This guy is either brilliant or
nefarious.  He has a "world famous" beer, gobs of income, a beautiful
brewery (boarded up) and no employees.  BTW, his name is Killian.

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From: josef@informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Josef Kaltwasser)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Help: Channel Islands / Mail lost !!
Date: 19 Aug 92 08:51:52 GMT
Followup-To: alt.beer
Organization: RWTRH Aachen

Hello everyone !

I've posted a news article request about good beer/pub recommendations on
the channel islands yesterday and FORTUNATELY a couple of poeople have
answered by e-mail ( many thanks! :-) ). UNFORTUNATELY the only thing I saw
from theses replies were the subject lines, due to a crash of my mail
system ( greetings from McMurphy :-( ). So PLEASE repeat your mail answer
if possible.

Sorry for bothering You!
Josef

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From: rconway@vax1.tcd.ie
Subject: Re: Pub Draught Guinness in Chicago!
Organization: Trinity College Dublin
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:41:07 GMT

In article <MARTIN.92Aug17093406@lyra.cis.umassd.edu>, martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin) writes:
> In article <1992Aug17.060812.24834@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> brown@odin.ins.cwru.edu (Dan Brown) writes:
> 
>    In an earlier posting lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle J. Mackey) writes:
>    >In article <92226.195553DMALZAHN@HARPERVM.BITNET> Don Malzahn <DMALZAHN@HARPERVM.BITNET> writes:
>    >>
>    >>Course I am sad, because they sold it warm. So I am drinking a Petes  Wicked
>    >                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>    >
>    >As it should be...
> 
>    as it traditionally is.
> 
>    >>Ale while I wait for the Guinness to chill.
>    >
>    >Heathen! Blashpemer! Guinness SHOULD be served at room temperature! Good
>    >lord, man, you've been drinking too many Amerikan pisswater beers!
> 
>    Guinness is TRADITIONALLY served at room temperature. It SHOULD, as should
>    other beers, be served to suit the tastes of the person who will consume
>    the beer!
> 
> Forgotten in this discussion is that the original poster was talking
> about the new Pub Guinness cans, which instruct the user to chill them
> for at least 2 hours before using so that the device will work properly.


Coming from the home of Guinness where all the famous Guinness pub serve beer
through a cooler and the only Guinness should at room temperature is the bottle
stuff. Cans sold as off sales have to be chilled for quiet a while.
From: DURRETT@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Fruit Beers
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:13:19 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

My wife's first batch was a fruit beer, completely different from the
Lambic style(she used cherry-flavored Juicy Juice). It was great. It's
very strong, and using actual cherry juice(which we did once) resulted
in a heavier, but less tasty beer. It turns out that Cherry Juicy Juice
is actually cherries, pears, and apples(or something along those lines.
But with no sugar added. The recipe came from _Zymurgy_.

Since I just noticed that the original post, was from the UK, I should
explain that Juicy Juice is marketed for children, but is all fruit
juice. I don't know about potential UK or Continental equivalents.

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From: karcher@jevex.waisman.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: RE: big foot ale
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:15:29 GMT
Organization: Waisman Center, University of Wisconsin-Madison

In a previous article, brew@buscard.fidonet.org (Tony All) wrote:
>HI i was wondering if anyone could tell me were i can find
>  this stuff called BIG FOOT ALE,it's made by SIERRA NEVADA
>  and it's real hard to find! WHY is it hard to find........
>  because it's a barley wine!

Because they only make a limited batch each year. A liquor store might ask for
10 cases but may get 2. I just bought the last 6 pack at a store here (which is
highly unusual since it's usually gone in May). You might still find it if you
can find a store where nobody has found out how good it is. Otherwise you'll
have to wait until next spring (and then horde it like I do).


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Waisman Center                        Bitnet:   KARCHER@WISCMACC
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From: jimv@dadd.ti.com (Jim Vahsen,VAHZ,)
Subject: Re: Warsteiner
Reply-To: jimv@dadd.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:40:24 GMT

In article 78176@ut-emx.uucp, chris@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Casey) writes:
>It is in the states.  Great stuff, I might add.  They even have it in what I 
>guess are baby kegs.  They're about 169 ounces (1.3 gal?), but they're like $16
>or so.  Unfortunately, compared to the 6paks, they really aren't cost effective.
>Has anyone tried these things from Warsteiner?  Are they worth it?

Welp, I got one of these little monsters awhile back.  Kind of like Europe's 
answer to the "Party Ball"...  Just kidding.  Actually, the store had several of
these little kegger wanna be's.  The store-keep tried to convince me that the
beer in the pseudo-keggers was brewed differently than the bottled version, and
was higher in alcohol.  I must have come across with the "bubba-wants-a-buzz"
first impression, oh well.  I digress.  Twas pretty good stuff.  I guess I got 
it for the gizmo, you now how simplistic we Americans are, we'll buy anything
if you make the package it comes in look cool...  I digress again.  Good, better
than your average beer.  But I haven't actually had it in the bottle type form,
so I couldn't give you a comparison.  It was also on sale for $11.99, so that may
have influenced the purchase as well.  Guess I'd give Warsteiner a thumbs up.
Too bad Samuel Adams hasn't come out with a jr. keg.  Wouldn't that be great?  
And what if this Swedish bikini team came paratrooping into my back yard, and all
my friends (both of 'em) were there too, and...  I gotta stop watching TV...  8)

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From: alexsut@panix.com (Alex Sutton)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Who owns Sam Adams??
Date: 23 Aug 92 14:38:25 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <hersh.714252282@xenon.lcs.mit.edu> hersh@expo.lcs.mit.edu (Jay Hersh) writes:
>hasn@midway.uchicago.edu (Sheheryar Hasnain) writes:

>>I recall reading in an Anheuser Busch annual report that it owns San Adams.  
>>Is that true?

>This wouldbe news to everyone around here. To the best of our
>knowledge Sam Adams, really the Boston Beer Company is owned 
>solely by Jim Koch. In fact they do not really have that much

The Boston Beer Company is a private company funded by several
venture capital firms.  Jim Koch still heads it, and the company
is doing very well.
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From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: big foot ale
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:50:35 GMT

In article 17152905@jevex.waisman.wisc.edu, karcher@jevex.waisman.wisc.edu () writes:
>In a previous article, brew@buscard.fidonet.org (Tony All) wrote:
>>  this stuff called BIG FOOT ALE [...]  and it's real hard to find!
>
>Because they only make a limited batch each year. A liquor store might ask for
>10 cases but may get 2. I just bought the last 6 pack at a store here (which is
>highly unusual since it's usually gone in May). You might still find it if you
>can find a store where nobody has found out how good it is. Otherwise you'll
>have to wait until next spring (and then horde it like I do).

I had some for breakfast at the brewery Sunday morning!

Bigfoot is NOT your basic breakfast beer.

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From: tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Champion Beer Of Britain 1992
Date: 13 Aug 92 11:53:56 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB

conor@lion.inmos.co.uk (Conor O'Neill) writes:
- Here is the result of the CAMRA 1992 Champion Beer Of Britain competition,
- held at the CAMRA Great British Beer Festival, 4-8 August.
- 
- There are eight separate categories, then the winners of each category
- are compared for the overall Champion. I am not sure of the exact
- definition of each category; I think they overlap slightly.
- 
- Mild:                 Taylor's Golden Best
- Bitter:               Ridleys IPA
- Best Bitter:          Taylor's Landlord
- Strong Bitter:        Hop Back Summer Lightning
- Old Ale:              Woodfordes Norfolk Nog
- Barley Wine:          Gibb's Mew Bishop's Tipple
- Porters and Stouts:   Bateman's Salem Porter
- Bottle Conditioned:   Gales Prize Old Ale
- 
- Overall Champion Beer Of Britain 1992:
- 1. Woodfordes Norfolk Nog
- 2. Taylor's Landlord
- 3. Bateman's Salem Porter
- 
- I will try to supply more details of each when I can get hold of my
- copy of the Good Beer Guide.
- 
- Note that these are all small breweries, and of course, 
- excepting the bottled, all cask conditioned beers.
- You are fairly unlikely to get hold of any of them far outside their
- own patch, and extremely unlikely to get any abroad.
- 
- ---
- Conor O'Neill, Software Group, INMOS Ltd., UK.
- UK: conor@inmos.co.uk		US: conor@inmos.com
- "It's state-of-the-art" "But it doesn't work!" "That is the state-of-the-art".

I will go to London in a few weeks. Are any of these possible to get
in London? Like at "The Star" in Belgrave Mews (one of CAMRA's favorites)

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From: ech@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Labatts/Molsons up beer prices 2.5% because of wet Ontario summer
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:12:53 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <schuck.713550796@sfu.ca>, schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck) writes:
> Labatt's and Molsons announced today that beer prices will have to
> go up 2.5% because of loss of beer sales during Ontario's wet summer.
> 
> Isn't that always the way. The rest of Canada gets screwed because of
> something that happened *only* in Ontario.
> 
> I say it's about time Canada boycotted Molsons and Labatts for their
> idiocy.
> 
> Besides, out here in BC we have a choice of some great chemical-free
> microbrewery beer such as Okanagan Spring, Shaftebury, 
> and Vancouver Island Brewing.
> 

Perhaps its the availability of microbrews in Ontario that's driving down
sales of Molson!  In which case that is a boycott of sorts.  Doesn't
bother me anyway, I drink homebrew!


> 
> Stamp out Molsons and Labatt's now.
> 

No need!  let the plebes drink swill, but just keep the micros brewing to
optimum performance!

> All they know how to do is raise prices and make bad copies of bad US beer.

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