HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dpassage@soda.berkeley.edu (David G. Paschich)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Pac Ten Review (9/26/92)
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:14:43
Organization: Organization?  Who cares?  You just gotta say "Go Bears!"
	<1992Sep28.170314.8478@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
	<DPASSAGE.92Sep28155805@soda.berkeley.edu> <BvBKnu.KA1.1@cs.cmu.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: bnoble+@cs.cmu.edu's message of 29 Sep 92 03:07:05 GMT

In article <BvBKnu.KA1.1@cs.cmu.edu>, 
	bnoble+@cs.cmu.edu (Brian Noble) writes:

   >In article <1992Sep28.170314.8478@beaver.cs.washington.edu>, 
   >	godfrey@cs.washington.edu (Garr Godfrey) writes:
   >
   >   Then who is Oregon State playing?
   >
   >Isn't it clear?  Playing Oregon State counts as a bye. :)
   >
   >David Paschich
   >GO BEARS!

   David, how long have you been following Cal?  Since the Copper Bowl
   year?  I thought so.

Actually, the year before that.  I've hated Stanfurd since I was 12,
though.  Why?

   YOU JUST WOOFED US OUT OF THE DAMN GAME!

Oh.  Oops.  Sorry.

   There are two rules about Cal football:

Enlighten me, Oh Graduated One.

   (a) Just when you are *sure* you know the outcome of the game, you are
   dead wrong.

Hrm.  I still have nightmares involving refs being paid research money
to make spurious roughing the passer calls.

   (b) Nobody, not even the 107th team of the 107 Div I-A schools, is a
   sure win for Cal.  EVER.

Hrm.   You know, you're right.

   Shit, even Fierro is trying to keep Cliff from woofing us into
   oblivion, and here you rise to the bait.

Damn.

I'm sorry, everyone.  I didn't mean to imply that Cal had a chance in
hell this weekend.  We're gonna get hosed.  That wishbone will just
confuse everyone.  Russell will go down with a broken toenail in the
first quarter.  Brien won't get a kickoff past the 20 yard line.  Dave
Barr will give up and move in with Brian Treggs in Palo Alto.  Tien
will fire Gilby on the spot.  Oski will rip off the costume, revealing
himself to the world, in shame.

It'll be a slaughter.

Really.

David Paschich
From: bkowal@aludra.usc.edu (Brian A. Kowal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Huskies and parties
Date: 29 Sep 92 07:35:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: aludra.1aai76INNd5i
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


I saw on the news the mention of some UW Huskie players that partied a
bit too much this last weekend.  Did they get in trouble with the law?
Or was is just general no-info news that I heard.

BTW Someone posted that UW, by going to the Rose Bowl three times in a
row would break know records needs to go over thier facts again, USC
has done it a couple times.

And for those who hate the USC band and its "song" - don't worry, the
band director has sold out due to all the pressure and plays "Tribute
to Troy" only half the time - not all the time :-(

I'm looking forward to the USC/UW game.

Fight On!

Brian A. Kowal
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: pws2n@vision1.ee.Virginia.EDU (Philip Weaver Smith)
Subject: Re: Miami vs. Arizona
Reply-To: pws2n@vision1.ee.Virginia.EDU (Philip Weaver Smith)
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 16:24:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.014329.29016@u.washington.edu>,
baze@carson.u.washington.edu (Behzad Khamneian) writes:
|> Any team that can beat Arizona 8-7 deserves my #1 vote.  NOT!!!!
|> What happened to all those east-coasters who knock PAC-10 teams?
|> 
|> Arizona:  Great effort.  The Wildcats should feel good about
themselves.
|> Miami:    Should feel lousy.  They showed everyone that they are not
the
|>           hot shots that they claim to be.
|> 
|> Some FSU fan posted about how Washington will come down in the polls
because
|> of their lousy schedule.  Well, for the time being, the pollsters
should
|> take the 'FSU fan's' advice and drop Miami a spot or two...   :)
|> 
|> Reminder:  Washington plays Arizona this year among other lowly
PAC-10 teams
|>            that don't compare to DA MIGHTY (wimpy) CANEZ!!!!
|> 
|> With regards,
|> 
|> -Baze
|> 
|> :)  :)  :)  :)  Miami 8-7  YES YES YES!!
|> 
|> 
|> 


Remeber now, just because a team has a bad day does not mean they are
no
good!  Next time you have a bad day, should your school or employer
scrap you?! I think not.  Its all a mute point anyway.  The real
decision
will be made after next week's FSU vs. Miami contest.  The winner of
that
game will be ( and deserves to be ) number 1. 

An aside - seeing that you are from UWash. . .  Come on, if you go back
and do a realistic review of last year's number #1 fiasco, you will see
that Miami had the tougher opponents in every category ( Record of
opponents,
number of opponents in bowls, number of opponents who won bowls, etc.
).
Until you can prove that Washington faces tougher competition and until
UM loses they should ( and probably will ) remain number #1.

Go 'CANES, BLUE HENS, and CAVALIERS!

--

Philip W. Smith                Office : Thorton Hall C242
			       Office Phone: (804) 982-2376   

-----------------------------------------------------------------
"A spirit with a vision is a dream with a mission."
     				-- Neil Peart

The past three presidents have been elected by a total margin
of approximately 3 million votes.  There are over 10 million
students currently attending college in the USA, and the age 
group which contains the majority of students is currently 
the most under-represented casting ballots.  If you think you
can't make a difference, please think again.  
REGISTER TODAY and BE SURE TO VOTE IN NOVEMBER!

                !!CLINTON/GORE IN 1992!!

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Subject: Re: Former Purdue QB's on Saturday
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:28:24 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.183435.1395@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>First, I see this NFL preview show with Len Dawson, Nick Bonnicante
>(spelled wrong, I know) and some other dude.  Then, I see that Bob Griese
>is doing the Miami-FSU game.  Finally, I get Gary Danielson for the
>Wisconsin-Ohoho State game.  What's the deal?  I think all these former
>Purdue QB's on TV is making the woofing gods mad at Purdue (even though you
>NEVER hear these guys comment on Purdue).

	Hey, Brian, they're just three of the many intelligent jocks
	who have come out of Purdue.  And, they're smart enough not
	to bring up the subject of Purdue football, unless provoked...

	Tim Foley, a Purdue and Dolphish DB, was a fine color man
	for the WTBS SEC games.  Boy, I miss those.  What were they
	thinking when they limited those games to the southeast region?
	
-- 
-------------------------------
| Randy Peppler               |
| Illinois State Water Survey |
| peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu    |
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 00:28:15 EDT
From: Kurt Ludwick <KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: who FSU has never lost to/beaten

In article <19837@ector.cs.purdue.edu>, sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin) says:

>                      Beef:  Real food for a dead planet.

Who gave Jeremy Rifkin an account?

------------
Kurt Ludwick
------------
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: paul@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Greg Paul)
Subject: Re: Tribute To Troy Lite
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:17:45 GMT

In article <BvEEFB.IDy.1@cs.cmu.edu> bnoble+@cs.cmu.edu (Brian Noble) writes:
>In article <1aai76INNd5i@aludra.usc.edu> bkowal@aludra.usc.edu (Brian A. Kowal) writes:
>>
>>And for those who hate the USC band and its "song" - don't worry, the
>>band director has sold out due to all the pressure and plays "Tribute
>>to Troy" only half the time - not all the time :-(
>>
>
>Well of course.  They play "Fight On (and on and on and on...)" the
>other half of the time.
>
>Sheesh.
>
>Brian
>  - Try Hard Bears!
>  - Be Dilligent!
>
>(PS: That's why the Cal Band keeps track of how many times they play
>*both* songs, not just one.)
>
>
>

   I don't suppose everyone here would be nice enough to at least 
include the word 'band' somewhere in the headers so the rest of 
us folks could more easily kill at least some of the volumes of 
useless debate that flows on the net?

--
========================== Will be President for food ==========================
Greg Paul  (Mouser)		  |  paul@enuxha.eas.asu.edu  GO SPARTANS!!
MSCS student, Insight technician  |     Triangle Fraternity
____________ "My words but a whisper, your deafness a shout..." -JT ____________
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jvbutera@grad04.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera)
Subject: Re: Danny Ford Back
Organization: NCSU Mathematics Dept.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:45:25 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.182238.2072@b11.b11.ingr.com> mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell) writes:
*In article <1992Sep28.150745.26734@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> ldr@lightnin.Columbia.NCR.COM (Dale Robbins) writes:
*>I just heard ex-Clemson coach Danny Ford was hired as an Assistant Offensive
*>Coach, Consultant, by Arkansas.  What is THAT???  If your going to hire me 
*>give me a big title!
*
*    Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
*
*--
*Guy McConnell  guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com


So effectively, Hatfield and Ford just switched schools? :)

-- 
Jeff Butera            DISCLAIMER: I claim absolutely nothing.
Math Graduate State
N.C. State University    "Still looking for a witty quote." 
jvbutera@math.ncsu.edu                           -Brad Halls
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera)
Subject: Re: what a game.....
Keywords: Tech-NCSU
Organization: Rice University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 03:15:27 GMT

In article <69840@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:
>

>DELIRIOUS.  In comes Mr. Clutch Scott Sisson who kicks the game winning FG
>as time runs out.  Final score: Tech 16 NCSU 13.  WHOO!  What a game.

I can't believe I passed up watching this game to go see Rice-Texas
after seeing the higlights.  Anyway, that was Sisson's 6TH  game
winning field goal as the last play of the game.  Now NC State is one
more school on the list of ACC teams that can't wait until Sisson
graduates!
-- 
Rob Butera - ECE grad student   Rice University, Houston, TX   rbutera@rice.edu

"Grandpa, why do you have to wear that funny hat?"
"Why - it wouldn't be a lodge if we didn't have hats!"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: bill@gaza.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King)
Subject: Weekend WacK UPdate
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:18:17 GMT


9/28/91

(in no particular order)

		conf	o all
		W L	W L T
Hawaii :-)      2 0     3 0
S.D. St.	1 0     1 1 1
bYu		1 2     1 3
Fresno		1 0	2 2
N.Mex.		0 1 	1 3
Wyo		0 1 	2 2
Utah		0 0 	2 1
ColoSt		0 1 	1 3 
Air F.		2 1	3 1
TeX ElP		0 1	0 3

recent results

Hawaii 36 bYu 32  (UH almost Blew it)
ColoSt 17 LSU 14
Wash St 39 Fresno St 37
AF 33 NmeX 32
ucLA 35  S.D.St 7 
UTah 42 Oreg st 9
Wyo 26 Louisvill 24




--
    bill@uhunix.bitnet 
    bill@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu 
    21.19 N.LAT by 157.52 W.LONG          
    Fish on the Byte
From: dpassage@soda.berkeley.edu (David G. Paschich)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Best marching band
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:33:30
Organization: Organization?  Who cares?  You just gotta say "Go Bears!"
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: hintzman@hpljah.hpl.hp.com's message of Fri, 25 Sep 1992 21:25:50 GMT

In article <Bv5Kv4.Mnt@hplabs.hpl.hp.com>, 
	hintzman@hpljah.hpl.hp.com (Jeff Hintzman) writes:

   I do not wish to go on and on about a game that occurred 10 years ago.
   What really makes me mad is that both sides continue to propgate the
   myth that the Band cost Stanford the game when it was not so.  

True.  But boy, did that trombone player pay...

   I don't hear anybody talk about two years ago in Berkeley when
   nearly the entire Cal student body was on the field with 0:12 left in
   the game.  The resulting 15-yard penalty on the ensuing kickoff,
   which was squibbed and recovered by Stanford, contributed DIRECTLY
   to Stanford's being in range to kick the winning field goal.  You
   want to talk about non-participants affecting the outcome of the
   game, let's talk about that.

Actually, the penalty was a personal foul against the Cal team,
basically for having gone all the way over to the Stanford bench area.
The team is defined as the players, coaches, cheerleaders, and the
band.  The fans aren't included.  You cannot penalize the home team
for having fans on the field so long as the home team makes a
reasonable effort to get them off the field, which they were.

And yes, I was there.  And no, I wasn't on the field.

I think a bigger factor leading to the winning field goal was the
questionable roughing the passer call on the ensuing drive.

   At least we can agree that USC's band sucks.

There are just some things in the universe you don't question.

David Paschich
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: beckham@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeff Beckham)
Subject: Re: Chief Illiniwek (Big 10 marching bands - Ugh!)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:27:57 GMT

acdendy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.184506.1847@cbnewse.cb.att.com>, jimf@cbnewse.cb.att.com (james.r.fehrenbacher) writes...
>> 
>>The one thing I did like among Big Boring 10 marching bands (and I've seen
>>them all) was Chief Illiniwek (and the music). Just wondering - have they
>>changed his name now to Mr. Illiniwek? 

>What, script Ohio doesn't turn you on?

The script 'Ohio'... give me a break.  The Ohio St. band is very good, but they
have marks on the field to guide them through thier drill... yes, the script
Ohio is actually marked on the football field... not too impressive, if you ask
me...


  			   	   --------------------------------------------
								  Jeff Beckham
						      beckham@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
 					 	  	       Marching Illini
                                    University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
				   --------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: The Rotten Rooster, 20 worst
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:01:45 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.172428.24896@ncsu.edu> delaw@eos.ncsu.edu (DOUGLAS EDWARD  
LAW ) writes:
> In article <1992Oct6.080345.25269@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>,  
tshannon@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Timothy J. Shannon) writes:
> |> 	The following is a list of the worst 20 college football teams
> |> as seen in Penthouse's Oct. issue.
> |> 
> |> 	8. Kent State

I think they're going by "Kent" now, thus joining other one
man teams such as "Oral Roberts" and "Sam Houston", but sans
last name.  Probably so nobody can phone them.

> |> 	13. Army
>         ^^^^^^^^
>         I take it this list was compiled before the start of this 
>         season. Since Army lost to a winless Navy last year, they
>         deserve to be in this list, but probably a bit higher.  

I think Navy would be listed, but I guess you don't qualify unless
you score...

Orin Day, Code 664.1                    oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov

*******"Think that this is NASA's opinion?   NO, NO, NO!!!" ******
Newsgroups: osu.sports,rec.sport.football.college
From: tshannon@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Timothy J. Shannon)
Subject: OSU Falls to Wisconsin!!
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 00:11:42 GMT

	HA!!!!!  OSU vs. Michigan for the Roses, yeah right.  I think
this year Michigan out classes all of the other Big Ten teams.  And next
year it will be Michigan or Penn St. to to the Rose Bowl.  OSU will go to 
the number 2 bowl for the big ten. 
-- 
___ ___ _   _    _       _             _
 |   |  | \/ |  (_  |_| |_| |\ | |\ | | | |\ | timothy-shannon@uiowa.edu 
 |  _|_ |    |   _) | | | | | \| | \| |_| | \| tshannon@CCAD.UIOWA.EDU
From: yvonne@well.sf.ca.us (Yvonne Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: A Bowl ?
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:14:03 GMT
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link

In <3864@ra.nrl.navy.mil> salas@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Miguel Salas) writes:


> Lets say Washington U are #2 in the country at the end of the
>season, can they play Miami for instance for the National 
>Championship? Or are they still obligated to the Rose Bowl?

Arrrrrgh!

One more time. If Washiington is the sole Pac-10 champion, they must go  to
the Rose Bowl.  If they are tied with one other team, the team that won
head-to head goes to the Rose Bowl. If the two teams did not play each other
(in this case, that could mean only UCLA, as the Huskies play every other
Pac-10 team), then the conference uses a system of four points for a
conferenece win, three for a conference tie, two for a non-conference win,
and one for a non-conference tie.  If the two teams have identical records,
the last teams to go will go to the Rose Bowl. In the event of a multi-team
tie, the team that beats the others goes to the Rose Bowl.  If no team has
beaten the others, then the point system is used.  Finally, the last to go
rule  applies.

In short, Washington will go to the Rose Bowl if it has a better
non-conference record than any team it ties in the Pac-10 race, or beats any
tied team head to head.  Obviously, the Huskies will go to the Rose Bowl if
they win the championship outright.
-- 
*****************************************************************
yvonne_lee@infoworld.com   (preferred email reply address)
yvonne@well.sf.ca.us       (news account) (415) 312-0571 w  (415) 968-3132 h
*****************************************************************
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:33:01 EDT
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: #1 Washington vs #2 Penn State
 <92277.212850RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> <BvnrEq.Aqn@encore.com>

Right, the Big 10 conference isn't the best, there are some bad teams in it,
but Michigan is still up there with the best of 'em!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
   As far as Penn State not playing anybody ranked, Rutgers was No. 33 in AP
going into the game, the score was a lot closer than the game really was.
Penn State now must face No. 2 Miami, No. 22 Boston College, No. 25 West
Virginia (all undefeated teams) and No. 14 Notre Dame........the easiest
battle will be against Miami 'cause it's at home...PENN STATE IS A
MUCH DIFFERENT TEAM IN THE HAPPY VALLEY!!!!!!...The 3 road games will be
serious tests.                                      -Snof
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: UCLA SCORING STREAK
From: acamberos@pimacc.pima.edu
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:27:55 -0700
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Oct5.190532.6542@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, rjones@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Randolph M. Jones) writes:
> In article <79DO03yXa0Oi00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro) writes:
>>  UCLA was overrated- Briuns going undefeated- yeah, right.   They were all
>>but shut out by Arizona.
> 
> The keywords here are "all but"...I believe UCLA holds (and is still working
> on) the record for consecutive games without being shutout...anybody know
> what the count is so far?

	ONE too many.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay))
Subject: Re: Virginia Football 
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 03:09:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.231126.27696@tamsun.tamu.edu> gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.200109.19201@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rmt6r@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Roy Matthew Thigpen) writes:
>>So, we have a few non-believers out there saying that UVA's
>>schedule is pathetic.  ...
>>                             We willbe scheduling some big time
>>opponents, just as soon as our contracts expire.  We have a home
>>and away series set with Texas...
>                          ^^^^^
>
>I thought you said you would be scheduling some big time opponents?
>
>- goober (that one's for jay) smith

OUCH!f First, I have to read outrageous woofing that is BOUND to
bring disaster from the woof gods this week in the form of the
improbable, the unthinkable--a Wake Forest upset of my 'Hoos--not
to mention cause a heat-up of that awful UVa-Va Tech flame war.
THEN an Aggie (and co-author of the now-famous and widely-read
SWC previews/reviews ;-) ) slams finds the connection to slam my OTHER
team. One post is going to cause BOTH of my teams to get bashed...
and I'm to addicted to r.s.fc. to avoid it. AGH!

Jay

p.s. Wake is actually a very talented team. They haven't played up to
their potential yet, but they showed signs of getting it together in
their last game against FSU...

p.p.s. Rice is atually a very talented team. They finally played up to
their potential last week, and always give Texas fits, and the game is
is Houston... Texas doesn't have a chance!



-- 

*********************************
  John R. Boisseau ("Jay")       
  Department of Astronomy        
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: wilbanks@spot.Colorado.EDU (Wendell Gee)
Subject: CSU BEATS LSU!!!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 20:32:09 GMT

A choir of angels sings "Hallelujah!" 

Colorado State got its first win, and at LSU, no less!
-- 
Dylan Wilbanks, Classics major, AND NOW Environmental Conservation!
Hobbes:"Why do we always play war and not peace?"|Currently at:
Calvin:"Too few role models."                    |Box 1143
Ren-n-Stimpy in '92! Vote for a real cartoon!    |Boulder, CO 80306
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 00:20:35 EDT
From: Kurt Ludwick <KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Penn State's schedule

In article <5832@news.duke.edu>, ds4@north3.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS
SIDIROPOULOS) says:

>and should be locked up.  FSU's offense did not score a touchdown against     ,
>Miami

PSU's offense is better than FSU's.  Watch out.

Oh, not to mention that Maimed-i apparently has no running game this year.
You guys are DEAD.  I think 24-14 is just about right.

>and one of their field goals was set up by a punt return which (allong with
>the
>kick off return for a touchdown) should of been called back because of        .
>clipping

Boo-hoo-hoo.  WAAAHHHHH, mommmeeee!!!!

>You are going to score less then or 10 points.

Yeah, but there's always the second quarter...

------------
Kurt Ludwick
------------