HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: DNET and A/UX
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 21:28:49 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <00964EED.3999E100@vms.csd.mu.edu>

In article <00964EED.3999E100@vms.csd.mu.edu>
2575brooksr@vms.csd.mu.edu (Ryan K. Brooks) writes:

|In article <71474@cup.portal.com>, thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) writes
:
|>In article <00964E4D.C8559A60@vms.csd.mu.edu>
|>2575brooksr@vms.csd.mu.edu (Ryan K. Brooks) writes:
|>
|>|  Anyone able to compile DNET under A/UX (yuk)?  Thanks for any pointers.
|>
|>Why do you care, and why post that question here?
|
|Hey, lighten up!  I post that question here because other discussions
|about DNET were going on.  I own an amiga and dial in to a mac, I'd
|like to use DNET.  Jesus Christ.

Sheesh, a heretic, yet.  :-)

|>A/UX is essentially a 1984 version of AT&T UNIX SVR2 hacked-on with Unisoft
|>extensions and (originally) designed to make MacOS multi-tasking to satisfy
|>perceived US Govt mandated regulations such that Apple could insinuate their
|>Macs into the taxpayer-funded government sector marketplace.  It (A/UX) has
|>failed miserably, both commercially and technically.
|
|Okaaay, just don't take it out on me!

Hey, you're the guy with an Apple.  Why didn't you post in comp.unix.aux?
Crapple stuff and cruft is NOT welcome in the Amiga newsgroups.

|>DNET was designed to operate under BSD-like UNIX versions (on the UNIX side).
|
|People have also compiled it under AT&T sys's and SunOS's.

Then kindly explain why it DOESN'T work on:

	AT&T 3B1 (AT&T UNIX SVR2.* and AT&T UNIX SVR3.*)
	AT&T 3B2 (AT&T UNIX SVR3.*)
	HPUX 7.* (an AT&T UNIX derivative)
	HPUX 8.05 (an AT&T UNIX derivative)
	HPUX 8.07 (an AT&T UNIX derivative)
	HPUX 9.* (at AT&T derivative)
	IRIX 4.0.* (SGI's AT&T UNIX derivative)
	Ultrix (from DEC)
	UTS (Amdahl's AT&T UNIX derivative)

Aw, fergit it, you probably didn't read Matt Dillon's "README" explaining
the variant of UNIX upon which his DNet will function).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: DAVIS@licr.dn.mu.oz.au
Subject: Re: JR-Comm and SupraFax9600
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: 14 Dec 1992 08:11:24 +1100
X-Vms-To: IN::"comp.sys.amiga.datacomm@cs.indiana.edu"

In article <jprad.723479348@faatcrl>, jprad@faatcrl.faa.gov (Jack Radigan) 
writes:
> mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith) writes:

[in response to a post describing crashing of JR-Comm when using the 
autodialler]
> 
>>Now, Jack may be guilty of not being sufficiently pessimistic in his
>>programming, but IMO, the fault lies with Supra, not JR-Comm.
> 
>   Well, this is sorta guilt-by-association.  The only thing I can figure is
> the auto-baud routine which can cause the serial.device to guru by setting
> it to a baud rate that is wildly different from the actual baud rate that
> is being received (this much is actually admitted to in the RKM).

As I mentioned to you in e-mail in the past, Jack, this problem is one that 
has been seen by countless people.  It is not just a problem with the 
modem; I use a Maestro Super Executive and have the same problem with the 
autodialler, to the point where like the original poster I can only 
reliably connect if I manually type in "atdt number".  Others have 
suggested turning off the clock and setting the serial rate to various 
speeds; none of these have made a difference, not surprisingly with the 
latter.

> 
>   The thing is that auto-baud should not be used with an error-correcting
> modem, so I don't know why this would happen.
> 
>   Basically, I've still not figured this one out completely, I've got an
> idea, but it needs to be tested.

I really hope you get this sorted out.  I know a lot of people that have 
stopped using the program because of this reason.  I don't know how many of 
them are registered users, but I am one.

By the way, I recently downloaded from a local BBS what looks like a beta 
version of your new program whose name I won't mention because it's so 
nifty and because you have kept it quiet.  Is this supposed to be released 
or has somebody broken the rules?

> 
>   -jack-

Ian Davis                                DAVIS@licr.dn.mu.oz.au
Ludwig Institute for Cancer Research
Melbourne Tumour Biology Branch,
Melbourne, Australia.
From: Ray_Hines@dream.uucp (Ray Hines)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: UUCP 1.16 -- Creating a Mailing List: HOW?
Date: 15 Dec 92 05:20:28 GMT
Organization: DreamStates BBS & CyberNet HQ in G'ville, FL   1-904-331-4317

Here's a question for all you UUCP gurus. :)  

I'm going to need to create a mailing list.  I am wondering how I can do
this with UUCP?  (I also use DLG, if it makes any difference). 

For those interested, I am in the process of initiating a mailing list on
the Amiga and Virtual Reality.  If interested, please Email me.  Thanks!
     

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

* IF replying by MAIL, please reply to the addresses listed below...
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From: kak@hico2.westmark.com (Kris A. Kugel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,alt.sources.amiga.d,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Problems using Worldblazer with amiga UUCP
Summary: problems going in, problems going out....
Keywords: Amiga uucp worldblazer telebit serial port
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:20:04 GMT
Reply-To: kak@hico2.westmark.com
Organization: High Country Software


My brother is having a lot of problems getting his new Worldblazer
to work with his Amiga.  As I understand it, he has problems
getting incoming calls, especially when talking to the modem at 19200.
(but we THINK the Amiga serial port *should* be able to handle > 9600 
baud rates).  On this side, it looks like I'm not receiving all of the
stuff he's supposed to be sending.  And problems with outgoing calls:
  
: I don't know what's with this modem-  It takes seven or eight tries to
: get it to dial you and now it seems your system can't dial in either
: at least someone kept trying to connect and never succeeded.  I
: eventually called you, (needing the usual number of tries to get it
: to dial) and got a newsfeed. Could this modem be defective?  It acts
: so strangely, I wonder if it has a sensitivity problem.
: 
: could you put out a message to see
: if anyone else has these kind of problems?

His setup is:
#S	Amiga 2000; AmigaDOS 2.1, Amiga-UUCP v1.16D

I could imagine problems with the worldblazer, the serial port hardware,
or the uucp software, but don't know enough about the specifics to help
track it down.

Does anybody know anything about these problems?  Does any one
have a similar setup working correctly? 

Thanks for any help you can provide!
(have I used the appropriate amiga newsgroups?)

Kris A. Kugel	908-842-2707
hico2!kak	kak@hico2.westmark.com
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From: dtiberio@libws4.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.dcom.modems,bit.listserv.i-amiga
Subject: Re: Supra problems wanted
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:17:31 GMT
Reply-To: subscribe@xamiga.linet.org
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook

In article <1992Dec16.143207.23322@hubcap.clemson.edu> charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV) writes:
>Do the problems seem to be confined to Supra's high-speed modems?  I've had

	Yes, the high speed modems only.

>But anyway, can you post this list once it's accomplished?  I'd like to know
>(as I'm sure the rest of the net too) what I might be getting into should I
>decide to get a higher-speed modem.

	No, I cannot post it to the list since numerous people are still
trying to receive replacements or returns on their modems. I do not want
to endanger anyone's chance of receiving an upgrade that they deserve. Also,
as one person said, we need ammo. 

	Note the new sig. Who cares about a $4 trillion debt when I've
lost $370...

	BTW, Supra has a support bbs and I have the anecdote! Now I am running
a new mailing list for supra modem owners. Anyone who wants to subscribe 
can send email to supra@xamiga.linet.org. Topics will include what some
common problems are, how to use the settings, and what problems people have
had in the past so you can get yours fixed (and hopefully me too).

	To join the list, send email to subscribe@xamiga.linet.org, and add
a line in the body of the text that is similar to this:

#supra username@domain

	...where username is your login name and domain is your ip address.
Just reply to this article and it will automatically go to the proper email
address, but you must include the line as listed above. Send your horror
stories to supra@xamiga.linet.org. And remember to give your opinions and
experiences only. Do not be slanderous.

:)


-- 

   I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND SUPRA MODEMS - IN MY OPINION THEY ARE NOT RELIABLE
      Amiga Graphics Association BBS (516) 473-6351  24 HRS 14.4 v.32bis
                   ** NO LONGER RUNNING ON A SUPRA MODEM **
                          ** FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE **

  Problems with your Supra modem? Join the Supra Mailing List. Send email to
     subscribe@xamiga.linet.org, and ask specifically for the Supra list!
From: jraja@vipunen.hut.fi (Jarno Tapio Rajahalme)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: SANA-II driver for SLIP
Date: 15 Dec 92 11:12:43 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

In article <37826@cbmvax.commodore.com> bj@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Jackson - Amiga Networking) writes:

   In article <1gbscgINNd7e@armory.centerline.com> troy@centerline (Troy Runkel) writes:
   >Some time ago I remember reading that the latest SANA-II information 
   >included a driver (or information on how to build a driver) for SLIP.
   >Is this true and if so where can I obtain it from?  Thanks in advance 
   >for any information you have to offer.
   >
   >--Troy Runkel			troy@centerline.com

   It's available for FTP from wuarchive.

   Brian
	  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +
	  Brian Jackson    Amiga Networking Group, Commodore-Amiga Inc.
			   bj@cbmvax.commodore.com
	{uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!bj    or   networking@cbmvax.commodore.com
			  uva uvam vivendo varia fit 


There seems to be some confusion about the SANA-II standard in that
distribution. SLIP driver included for example refers to two SANA
commands which are not defined by the standard (or include files,
either).
These two commands are (clipped from the file device_funcs.c):

        case S2_ADDSTATIONALIAS:
        case S2_DELSTATIONALIAS:

Would some of you at Amiga Networking group clarify this subject? Are
these some new commands added to the standard, or are they some old
stuff? Anyway, if the supplied binary SLIP driver really is compiled
from source included, it must be some heavy magic :-)

I reported this via email to networking@cbmvax.commodore.com few weeks
ago, but had no answer :-(

	Jarno
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From: Michael_Tanzer@guru.apana.org.au (Michael Tanzer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Demand for Amiga Portable.
Distribution: world
Date: 15 Dec 92 14:20:20 +1100
Organization: Guru Meditation BBS

I have a fuzzy recollection of reading something from someone at C=
suggesting that the reason for no Amiga portable being available was that
the custom chips generate more heat than can be efficiently dealt with by
so small a unit.   The same article (if I remember correctly) stated that
C= might consider a portable that lacked these chips (and hence their
function) but at least provided enough Amiga features to perhaps be
attractive to those Amiga users who *really* want a portable.
  
Sorry for the lack of detail, but there you are.  Write your local C= rep.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.dcom.modems,bit.listserv.i-amiga
From: dtiberio@engws10.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Subject: Re: Supra problems wanted
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 06:24:28 GMT

In article <BzIqM4.9nD@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us> mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst) writes:
>In article <1992Dec19.123231.1959@sbcs.sunysb.edu> dtiberio@engws10.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio) writes:
>>	%DP - this command turns those dead pixels from your new modem back 
>>	on
>[Long list of woes deleted]
>
>This, and some of the other items you claimed, certainly sound like
>defects in your particular modem.  Since you have that nice five-year
>warranty, it won't cost anything.  I'd call Supra and ask for an RMA
>number instead of bitching at comp.dcom.modems.

	Thankyou for your suggestion. I will call Supra tonight and say 
"My first three Supra modems were malfunctioning and I would please like
another, hopefully one that works. Oh this one will work? I thought the last
three would work too."

>There are lots of reasons to not buy a Supra modem -- including,
>possibly, poor quality-control.  But there's no reason to keep a
>defective modem instead of returning it for a warranty replacement.
>Don't you think you would hear about it if every Supra modem shipped
>had dead pixels on the LED display, a non-working speaker, and
>answered the phone on a random number of rings?

	Actually, in all kindness, the third modem I received was a little
bit better than the first two, except for the dead pixels and the nice
psychadelic intensity gradient. It still can't answer the phone reliably
(I can predict when it won't answer the phone), but since I have made some
headway, I am asuming that there might be some mistake on my end... but then
again, the first one I got worked for a little while and I am still using
the same exact init sequences.

	Basically the third modem greatly improved my outgoing calls, which
pleases me, but it has not improved incoming calls. I just learned today that
my friend who had been helping me received an $83 phone bill for calls within
our area code to my house trying to connect. I spent $60 more than I
originally thought it would cost, for shipping new modems and long distance
calls. The next time Supra sends me a modem, it will either work or it will
be the last. I hope sincerely that Supra starts making modems that work well.
It seemed as though the worked better within the first few hours and then the
failures started showing up...


-- 

   I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND SUPRA MODEMS - IN MY OPINION THEY ARE NOT RELIABLE
      Amiga Graphics Association BBS (516) 473-6351  24 HRS 14.4 v.32bis
                   ** NO LONGER RUNNING ON A SUPRA MODEM **
                          ** FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE **

  Problems with your Supra modem? Join the Supra Mailing List. Send email to
     subscribe@xamiga.linet.org, and ask specifically for the Supra list!
From: marc@aargh.adsp.sub.org (Marc Heuler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re:  RPI
Date: 9 Dec 92 11:19:44 GMT
Organization: ImageArts

In article <OA92-910-103_1610fef8@piraya.bad.se> Thomas_Agatz@pitstop.bbs.bad.se (Thomas Agatz) writes:
>I haven't seen any, but have any seen some BBS/term software that supports the
>SkyPix (?) format? You know, the one there your able to use the ansi-mouse.

CNet Amiga BBS offers the choice to select SkyPix at logon. It depends on
the sysop whether he actually addes SkyPix menus to the system. Otherwise
the system defaults to ASCII.

JR-Comm 1.02a has SkyPix-capabilities. Unfortunatly sometimes it works,
sometimes it doesn't.. Maybe Term is better at that one

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>   \/\/  PitStop Amiga BBS     Fido: 2:230/311.0  \/\/ 
>   /\/\  UseNet: Thomas_Agatz@pitstop.bbs.bad.se  /\/\ 
>  /_/\_\ HOA/SAN/ADS/APDN/HST/24h - +45 31197459 /_/\_\ 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.dcom.modems,bit.listserv.i-amiga
From: mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst)
Subject: Re: Supra problems wanted
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:13:14 GMT
Organization: The Programmer's Pit Stop, Ann Arbor MI

In article <1992Dec19.123231.1959@sbcs.sunysb.edu> dtiberio@engws10.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio) writes:
>	%DP - this command turns those dead pixels from your new modem back 
>	on
[Long list of woes deleted]

This, and some of the other items you claimed, certainly sound like
defects in your particular modem.  Since you have that nice five-year
warranty, it won't cost anything.  I'd call Supra and ask for an RMA
number instead of bitching at comp.dcom.modems.

There are lots of reasons to not buy a Supra modem -- including,
possibly, poor quality-control.  But there's no reason to keep a
defective modem instead of returning it for a warranty replacement.
Don't you think you would hear about it if every Supra modem shipped
had dead pixels on the LED display, a non-working speaker, and
answered the phone on a random number of rings?

-- 
Marc Unangst, N8VRH         | "Of course, in order to understand this you
mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us   |  have to remember that the nucleus of the atom
                            |  is squishy."
                            |    -W. Scheider, from a Physics lecture
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: dtiberio@engws10.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Subject: Supra problems wanted
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 11:29:53 GMT


	If anyone has had problems with Supra modems, please email me
your story. I am compiling a rather extensive data base of problems that
i intend to send to Supra.


-- 
      Amiga Graphics Association BBS (516) 473-6351  24 HRS, 14.4k baud
PEROT PEROT PEROT PEROT PEROT PEROT PEROT PEROT PEROT PEROT PEROT PEROT PEROT
    "I don't have any experience in running up a 4 trillion dollar debt."
From: shogun@tension.UUCP (Jay Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Jr Comm
Date: 17 Dec 92 14:40:03 EST
Organization: High Tension BBS

        I wsa wondering what the latest version of JR Comm was.  I am currently
using 1.02a, and I find it to be the best comm program for any computer.  
                Thank You,
                        Jay Brown

==============================================================================
IBM MAKES IT IN BULK...MACINTOSH MAKES IT POPULAR, BUT ONLY AMIGA MAKES IT     
                           POSSIBLE.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: tres@netcom.com (Gary Chow)
Subject: Re: ParNet non A4000?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:05:30 GMT

In article <kaltenha.724062848@kuba.informatik.uni-freiburg.de> kaltenha@informatik.uni-freiburg.de (Raoul Kaltenhaeuser) writes:

[stuff deleted]
>Did I make a mistake (I never tried ParNet before), or doesn't the
>software run on the A4000?
>

My A4000 and A2500 are parneted together with no problems ...

>Raoul

Gary.
From: jkh@whisker.lotus.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: FTP Primer
Date: 13 Dec 92 17:40:09 GMT
Organization: Lotus Development Ireland

: for you to identifiy your self.
: type 'anonymous'
: 	then your password.

Or, even easier, just identify yourself as 'ftp' - this is an accepted
synonym on most sites.

					Jordan
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I DO NOT SPEAK FOR LOTUS - IT HAS PLENTY OF LAWYERS TO DO THAT FOR IT ALREADY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Baud Bandit Info Wanted
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:06:46 GMT

Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser) writes:

>Now if only I could convince Greg to put a proper VT-xxx emulation
>into Bandit, I'd never have to use anything else. 

Well, if it's any help in convincing him, lack of VT100 emulation is
what caused me to drop Baud Bandit and switch to VLTjr. BB has some nice
features, and I really liked the autodialer, but I've got to have VT100
emulation. Though with everything that VLT can do, I don't know if I'd
switch back if BB did get VT support.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.dcom.modems,bit.listserv.i-amiga
From: jdb8042@blkbox (John D. Baker)
Subject: Re: Supra problems wanted
Organization: The Black Box, PO Box 591822 Houston, TX 77259-1822 
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 20:46:02 GMT

dtiberio@libws4.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio) writes:

>In article <1992Dec16.143207.23322@hubcap.clemson.edu> charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV) writes:
>>Do the problems seem to be confined to Supra's high-speed modems?  I've had

>	Yes, the high speed modems only.

I beg to differ.

I am using a SupraModem 2400 Plus  (2400bps wi MNP2-5 and v.42/v.42bis)
and have been having no end of trouble when connected with the advanced
features turned on.

Problem 1:  Connections using v.42bis will break (drop carrier) anywhere
            from 15-min to 2-hrs into the connection when connected to
            a U.S. Robotics HST Dual Standard. (All other connection 
            modes [v.42 only, MNP 2-5] work flawlessly for indefinite
            periods of time.)

Problem 2:  All EC/DC connections to Practical Peripherals 14400FXSA
            modems drop carrier anywhere from 5-min  to 2-hrs into the
            connection.  This means I must turn all the features off and
            be a plain 2400bps modem.  This defeats the purpose of me
            even having an error-correcting modem in the first place!

I talked to Supra Tech Support and they are baffled and insist that the
remote modem is at fault.  My sysAdmin insists that it's MY modem's fault
and states that I am the only user wh has trouble staying connected.

This one system (from which I am posting now, blkbox.com) is the only
place I call that gives me this trouble.

Some relief has been found by setting my modem to ignore changes in
the DTR signal.  Problem 1 (above) appears to have been eliminated.
Problem 2 still exists, but the average connection time has lenghtend
to 2 hours.  Still, the connection breaks.

I have full hardware handshaking enabled.  the only changes to the
&F2 factory default are '&C0 &D0' to force CD true and ignore DTR.

I look forward to feedback from other SupraModem 2400 Plus users.


John D. Baker  ->An Apple CardZ180 Z-System nut//
Internet:  jdb8042@blkbox.com            jdbaker@taronga.com
UUCP:      nuchat!blkbox!jdb8042         ...!taronga!jdbaker
BBSs:  JOHN BAKER on Z-Node #45 [(713) 937-8886],
The Vector Board [(716) 544-1863], PIC of the Mid-Town [(713) 527-8939]
Karnage: "I am certainly very happy for you, but--WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!"

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