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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 00:26:00 LCL
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From:         "(RYAN)" <RYAN.NPIH@MAIL.NPI.UCLA.EDU>
Subject:      Help! Server Crash Nov3.11

To: NOVELL

I keep having this server crash!  I have a 486 50 with 16 Meg RAM.  The
server only started crashing after I added a second drive to it.  The first
Drive was a 600Meg Micropolis ESDI.  The Drive I added is a 300 Meg
Micropolis Drive. I am using an Ultrastor Controller w/ the upgraded ROMS
(009).  I am combining the two drives as ONE VOLUME.  But IT KEEPS CRASHING
ABOUT ONCE A WEEK!.  It gives an ERROR...error writing to partition #3 then
Drive deactivated due to drive failure.  I ran the Surface analysis on BOTH
drives and it RUNS FINE it finds no new errors.  WHY DOES IT KEEP DOING
THIS!!!!  I Have to run Vrepair after it crashes and once I had to do a
FULL RESTORE because Vrepair could repair it!

AAAARRGGGHHHH!!!!!

Is Anybody else using the VOLUME SPANING MULTIDRIVES Feature of NOVELL?????

Ryan Jones
Programmer/Analyst
UCLA Neuropsychiatric Institute & Hospital
RYAN.NPIH@MAIL.NPI.UCLA.EDU
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Subject: RE: Can't print locally after loading IPX & NETX
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:07:00 GMT
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Same thing got me once; check your shell.cfg for a statement like

LOCAL PRINTERS=0

Hope it's that easy.


Dave Kilgallon
Villanova University
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:47:34 EST
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From:         Greg Monroe <MONROE@DUKEFSB.BITNET>
Subject:      Warning about 486/50 CPUs in servers

Ryan Jone's problem reminded me of something I meant to pass along to
the list (sorry Ryan, I don't think this is your solution).

Recently, our build it/fix it guru was telling me about how the Intel 486/50
chips have been having problems with heat disappation.  This could cause
all sorts of problems with the OS and PC.  The recommended solution
was lots of ventilation, either an oversized fan or double fan case (a
lot of 'clone cases' now have this option).

Since a server tends to have a lot more heat producing items, it would
probably be a good idea to check out any 486/50 server's ventilation
system.  They probably should not be located in rooms which have the AC
turned off overnight and on weekends.

Apparently Intel corrected this problem in the 486/66.  They seem to be
more tolerant of heat than the 50s.  However, in general, the higher the
speed, the more heat a chip puts off, the more important the cooling
system becomes.  For instance, anyone else seen the bag of 'silicon goo'
which cools a "Brick" PC?  It's kind of interesting.  The motherboard sits on
a bag which absorbs it's heat and transfers it to the heavy metal case.  No
fan required up to almost desert heat (the thing was originally designed
for the military I believe).  Now there's a good Heat and Mass test question
for you...Calculate the amount of transfer media and heat sink mass required
to cool.... 8-).

Greg Monroe  <Monroe@DukeFSB.BitNet>
Duke's Fuqua School of Business
Durham, NC  27708-0114
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From: mcc@WLV.IIPO.GTEGSC.COM (Merton Campbell Crockett)
Subject: Re: [SUMMARY]:NW31,WIN31,MAC,PRINTING 2/2
Organization: GTE Government Systems
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 04:23:33 GMT

It will take a while to digest the contents of your message; however, with
respect to Windows 3.1, I think it would be beneficial to take a less com-
plicated look at the problem.

First, Windows is an application program.  Don't load "system software" from
within Windows or any other application.  If you need "system software" to
be present load it before you start Windows.  Specifically, load memory
managers, device drivers, "cache" programs, and NetWare before windows.

Merton Campbell Crockett

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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 21:25:00 CDT
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From:         "Don M. Wee/Loyola Univ Chicago" <$ACSDMW@LUCCPUA.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Netware Security Inquiry and "SA"

> >What we are seeking are security products for Netware that provides
> >security at the USER level rather than at the host level.
> >According to Novell  their "SA" product only prevents a server from
> >advertising itself on a network.
> Does anyone know more about this "SA" product?  Where do I get it? and What
> does it actually do?
> George Mansoor                                             Cal State Northridg
> Internet : gmansoor@vax.csun.edu                Business Affairs Systems - BMG
>            vfoao07h@vax.csun.edu                     Northridge, CA 91330 - US
I think you mean the "SAFILTER.NLM" that allows 3.11 servers to block
the forwarding of Service Advertising Protocol packets.
With it, you could "hide" certain servers from other servers to make
those certain servers more secure.
An institutional/corporate license is available by buying Novell's
$995-list-price Multiprotocol Router software product.
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 10:28:29 EDT
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From:         "Loreen E. Lacy" <LIBEM029@SIVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Posting of NetWare security hacks.

From: Loreen E. Lacy
      SI Libraries  NHB 26A
      (202) 357-1940
Rather than posting across wide audience forums, would a good compromise be to
have the poster send them directly to novell and anyone needing access to them
for security reasons establishing their need and identity to Novell? This
would solve the problems of folks thatneed to bang around with them without
the possiblity of these types of programs getting into idle hands, wouldn't
it?

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From: MAILBOX@ZEUS.ICE.NL (Zeus Mailbox)
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Subject: Re: XT printserver and a plotter
Date: 30 Sep 92 07:45:52 GMT
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>
> If I run Pserver.exe (V1.22) on the PC10 the two parrallel printers are fine,
> but the plotter does strange things after it's buffer has been filled.
>
> It appears that the server is not waiting for a retry when the buffer
> overflows, it's just squirting all the file down.
>
> The resulting mess is not pretty.

Looks like a problem with flow-control, do you have the RTS/CTS/DTR
pins connected in your connectors ?? com1 should be set to 9600,8,1
In a SUB D25 it should be:
        pin 4 RTS
        pin 5 CTS
        pin 20 DTR

In a SUB D9 it is:
        pin 7 RTS
        pin 8 CTS
        pin 4 DTR

Another tip:
You can set a buffer in the printer configuration menu of pconsole,
set it to 0, maybe it helps.

Greetings...

Henno.


mailbox@zeus.ice.nl (Henno Keers)                     Zeus mailbox
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 10:15:19 -0400
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From:         "(John Delorey)" <jdelorey@PX4.STFX.CA>
Subject:      backup software

Hi,

  I hate to start a battle of "What's the best backup software", but could
someone give me some advice?  We "were" running SYTOS with no trouble until
we added 2000 users and it now wil not run.  We have an Exabyte 8200, 2.2GB
tape drive and are wondering what would be a good backup software product
to use.  I was considering SBACKUP but have heard that there may be some
+ problems
with using a tape drive and hard drives on the same Adaptec 1740 controller? Is
this true?

thanks
john
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From: AMINZADE@UVMVAX.BITNET (Russell Aminzade: Trinity College of VT)
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Subject: Re: "Server Not Found" problems
Date: 3 Oct 92 22:33:00 GMT
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HMM.  I get so confused with ohms.  Maybe I wasn't clear.  This was one
end of the network... in other words I pulled the cable at the t-connector
and measured it down the wire, so only one resistor was in the circuit.  That
makes 50, plus some extra for funky cable, sound pretty reasonable.

Power was off to everything at the time, so the wobbling around of the needle
(well, it's digital equivalent...I would have LIKED a real needle to look at)
was, I suspect, due to my less-thank-ramboesque grip on the little wires.
Should I check for DC on the line with a bunch of workstations booted?
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:29:48 -0600
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From:         Rich Brown <rbrown@COBA9.UNIVNORTHCO.EDU>

Printcon and Printder[D[D[C[D[D[Df[D[Df

I am trying to get two printer ports set up on our network that
will reset an HP J[D[D[DLaserJet IID with a postscript cart. from/to
PCL and Postascript modes[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[Dtscript
 modes.  I have created two print jobs in
Printcon, each of which run only onwe[D[D[De command in their mode
(created in prind[Dtdef), which is the esc sequenct to w[D[Dswitch
into or out of postscri[pt[D[D[D[D[D[Dpt mode.  Here;s
 [D[D[D[D[D[D's the rub....

If I send a jof[Db from the DOS proi[D[Dmpt to the appropriate port, the
printer resets to the appropriate mode but usually
 dowsn[D[D[D[D[Desn"t[D[D[D[D"t print
the job (e.g. DIR > LPT![D[D1 sends the mode command but o[Dno output).

If I send the[D[D[D[Da job from softwaw[Dre (e.g.
 WOrk[D[D[D[Dp[D[DordPerfect) the printer doesn"t
reset, bu tthe job gets printed.

Anyone have any ideas?????

(I know, I should just set my software to all tak[D[Dlk Postsctript, but
do you have any idea how many Major packags [D[D[Des won"t do it?  (CC:Mail,
for example))

Rich Brown
rbrown@dijkstra.univnorthco.edu
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From:         HERB MARTIN <MARTINHER@URVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Lan WorkPlace and Gopher/Trumpet

What is Gopher?  Trumpet?

Martinher@urvax.urich.edu
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:21:52 CST
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From:         "(Kao Chee-Yuan)" <cykao@CC.NSYSU.EDU.TW>
Subject:      how to keep old path

Hi, everyone,
    I think you ever meet the same question that when you logout
from Netware, the path of dos be killed !!!!

    Would you can tell me how to keep my dos path when I login to novell
, and logout from it ?

    Sencond, I want to setup the dos ip tunnel, the ip tunnel of client to
server. But, there are no files (tcpip.exe or tcpip.com && iptunnel.com or
iptunnel.exe) in my Netware software. Where can i find it or buy it ?

                                               thanks a lot !!
From: renev@jupiter.idca.tds.philips.nl (Rene de Vries)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Slow printing on Novell 2.2+clipper
Summary: Printing gets very slow when clipper 5.0 application and Novell 2.2.
Keywords: novell,clipper
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:15:41 GMT
Reply-To: renev@idca.tds.philips.nl (Rene de Vries)
Disclaimer: This opinion is mine alone

Hello,

I've got a problem using Novell 2.2 (NON-dedicated), clipper 5.0.

The problem is : When any clipper application is started on any PC
connected to the novell server, all printing gets slow. But when WordPerfect
prints, nothing is wrong. I think it is a problem of clipper, but if
you have an idea what it could be please send me an e-mail.

Rene de Vries.

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From: charlesh@STEDWARDS.EDU (Charles Hofstaedter)
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Subject: Novell Briefing
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:03:24 GMT
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Greetings Novellers (or is that Novellites?)

Has anyone heard about the briefing to be given by Novell at Networld.  They
claim they will demo 4.0.  I am wondering if this will be available on the floor
or only at the Monday Briefing?
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From:         Richard Letts <R.J.Letts@SALFORD.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: This List
              Sep 30, 92 2:02 pm

wolfgang.roeckelein@SOWI.UNI-BAMBERG.DBP.DE writes....
>
>
> Hello,
> I am experiencing the same problem. It seems that there are folks from
> CompuServe on this list and there gateway (CompuServe's) doesn't like
> lists.
>
> Wolfgang Roeckelein
>
I've sent complete rejection messages to the postmaster@compuserv.com
but the rejection messages don't carry any information their
postmaster finds useful. ie They don't say who the mail was
destined for, and the postmaster cannot find out from the rejection message.

May I humbly suggest that the ListServ Administrators 'FIX' the
compuserv addresses on our behalf, and that compuserv get their mail
software fixed so the error reports go to the list administrators.

Richard
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From:         "Russell Aminzade: Trinity College of VT" <AMINZADE@UVMVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: CD-ROM with Netware

Virtual Microsystems makes a product called "InfoServer" that they
claim can hang off a LAN and serve a bunch of CD-ROMs over a network.
It's built on a microvax, and uses PATHWORKS, but they tell me that
it's a simple matter to hang it off a Novell LAN running IPX.  Worth
calling 'em, I suppose.  I think the number is 1-800-722-8299.
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:06:36 EDT
Reply-To:     ken@faculty.law.duke.edu
From:         Ken Hirsh <KEN@FACULTY.LAW.DUKE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Novell 3.11 (fwd)

Novell has a new set of migration utilities, available on
netwire and the ftp site as migrat.zip.  It won't preserve the
passwords, but it will let you set nul passwords or random
passwords so you don't have to use SYSCON to assign a password
to one user at a time.

JRBUTILITIES also has a program that will let you set passwords
for more than one user at a time.  It is available from a number
of sites, including splicer.cba.hawaii.edu.
__________
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Duke University
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From:         "(ThomasD.Gasser)" <THOMASG@EPX.CIS.UMN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Need help with ODI packet and Zenith Z-note 386L

I can help you with the ODI and ODIPKT part.

Your autoexec.bat should look something like this

LSL.com
ZNOTE.com
ODIPKT 0 96
IPXODI.com
BNETX

Your net.cfg should have the following

link driver ZNOTE
    Frame Ethernet_II

You need to replace the ZNOTE and ZNODE.com with the "real" name of the ODI
driver for the built in ethernet.



>
>        I need some help configurating the built-in ethernet adapter in the
>Zenith Z-note 386l to work with ODIPKT.
>
>        I need to run Netware and NCSA Telnet off the same board at the same
>time.
>
>        Does anyone have an example of how to configure ODIPKT with *any*
>board?  How about with the Zenith?
>
>Thanks for any help.  I'm more than a little confused here...
>
>Jason
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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 14:29:00 GMT
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From:         Jim Loya <0004602295@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Windows 3.1

If I'm not mistaken, Windows 3.1 doesn't care whether or not you have capture
loaded (as opposed to Windows 3.0) -- if you take a look at what TSRs you have
loaded (or run a capture /stat), you will notice that, after you print something
through Win 3.1, Capture gets loaded for you... after you exit Windows, you will
see that capture is loaded with the defaults you had specified within the
windows session... regardless of dos kits and workstation banter.
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From:         Scott Fenstermacher <SCOTT@ENGE1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Temperature Monitoring Device

This is not exactly a Novell question (Unless your server is in a Computer
Room). I am looking for a device that can monitor temperature in a room
and make a phone call if the temp. exceeds preset limits. We already have
a Sensaphone but it is not very reliable. If anyone knows of such a
device, please send me mail. Plese include the phone number of the company
if you can. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Scott

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From: ag129@cus.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Re: IP Tunneling - max # servers? WHY?
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:23:04 GMT
Organization: U of Cambridge, England

In article <9210051410.AA15720@chaos.tci.com> Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET> writes:
>> And at least the protocol is well-defined. I'm talking
>> about when someone brings up a server, and another server across town
>> goes down, because they picked the same IPX network number. There's
>nothing built into IP that makes network numbers unique - except for
>central control. If you had central control of NetWare numbers, this would
>never happen.

Fine, but there _is_ no central control!  It's all very well saying
"You should have set up a central authority in 1985", but sometimes
it's hard (politically) to do that, and sometimes you have people who
started off independent and then want to plug their system into your
WAN. With IP tunnelling you can be sure that you are totally protected
from anyone doing this.

>> Of course, if Novell produced readily accessible technical documentation
>> of their networking protocol (to the level of IBM's SNA, or at least to
>> that of TCP/IP), there wouldn't be so much of a problem. The more one
>> has to guess, the more one wants to be protected from the dumb guesses
>> of other people.
>
>Now, that's a non-sequitur. Knowing the workings of IPX or NCP doesn't help
>in picking network numbers, nor does it protect you from mischievious
>packets.

I'm not asking to know the workings. Indeed, I don't want to have to
deduce a "set of rules that will make everything work ok" from the
low-level protocol description.  What I want is a _high-level_ description
so that I can say "I have such-and-such a network - is Server A visible
from stations attached to Server B, with the local bridge filtering
such-and-such a range of packets?" or "what do I have to tell this person
so that their LAN is _guaranteed_ not to cause problems for ours?"
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From:         "GEORGE C. RUSS: THE CITADEL COLLEGE [803-792-6817]"
              <RUSSG@CITADEL.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Automatic Backup Software

ArcServe from Cheyanne Software and Network Archivist from Palidrome
palidrome 708-505-3300
cheyanne 800-243-9462
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