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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 00:05:40 EDT
From: Kurt Ludwick <KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Best marching band
Distribution: usa
 <DPASSAGE.92Sep29163330@soda.berkeley.edu>
 <aelman.717975852@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> <1ao4ufINN8j8@girtab.usc.edu>

In article <1ao4ufINN8j8@girtab.usc.edu>, swain@girtab.usc.edu (Ronnie Swain)
says:

>our football coach does not hate the band, and our fans love the band.  Our
>job
> is to irritate the opposing team and take them out of the game. Most of the
>times we succeed, other times we don't.  At all times we support our team.

That's a pretty perverse purpose for a college marching band.

>I can understand your hatred of us. Most people from Pac-10 or Big-10 schools
>don't like us with good reason.  However, I point towards a certain
>Sports Illustrated article in which they reconized the Trojan Marching Band as
>the 2nd best band in the nation, just behind Florida A&M.

Wow.  A sports magazine, picking the best marching bands.  This shows what
they know.

------------
Kurt Ludwick
------------
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:25:55 EDT
From: <JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Alabama vs La. Tech
 <1992Sep29.144333.5968@b23a.b23a.ingr.com>
 <1992Sep29.171612.29246@b11.b11.ingr.com>
 <1992Sep29.194054.5063@b11.b11.ingr.com>

If Mal HAD any offensive genius, I'd be happy to comment on it . . .


JimThomas
From: murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami, Florida
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:33:57 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA


>Lucky?  Well, the way I see it, Arizona went for a field goal on 4 and 7.  I
>heard it was more than fifty yards.   Miami held them to a distance where it
>would of been lucky if they made the field goal.
>
>ds4@soc6.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS)

and arizona held miami to a distance where they scored only eight points.
good luck against the better teams . . . looks like they're gonna need it.

ok
dpm
-- 
murphy@npri6.npri.com 602 Cameron St. Alexandria, VA 22314 (703) 683-9090

              When every one is dead the Great Game is finished.  Not before.
                              --- Hurree Babu, "Kim"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Aggie Riot
From: bsutesch@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:55:31 CST
Distribution: usa
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

In article <BvDM3q.MGv@rice.edu>, retrac@vesuvius.cs.rice.edu (John Carter) writes:
> Well, the MOB goes on at least one road trip a year, either to A&M or Texas.
> They also go (all the way) to Houston when we play in the Dome.  Sometimes
> they also go to "special" games, like the time we played at Notre Dame a few
> years back.  We should've won, but the refs gave them 45 points or so :).

Nay, Nay.  I know the MOB has been to Baylor on many occasions.
           The Southwest Conf. Playboy pictorial show comes to
           mind as does the "do you know the way to San Jose"
           tribute after Baylor lost to San Jose St.

Brian UTesch
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: willmsch@buzz.rtp.dg.com (Royce Willmschen)
Subject: IPTAY (was Re: ACC This Week: Predictions and Such)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 14:54:01 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, Research Triangle Park, NC

In article <1992Oct6.003247.23027@ncsu.edu>, jvbutera@grad01.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera) writes:
> (Benjamin H. Cowan) writes:
> (RICHARD D CURRIN) writes:
> (Robert John Butera) writes:
> *
> *  Ok... I'll say it...
> *
> *  "It's probation time again, Y'all!"
> 
> You see, this is EXACTLY why Clemson can't fire Hatfield.  He was brought
> in to clean house first, then win a few games.  I think this quote is
> FAR more appropriate to a school like SYRACUSE these days....
> 

Except it would be "It's probation time again, Yous Guys!".  Or is that
Rutgers?

-- 
Royce Willmschen                    
Data General Corp.			"Generic Quote"
willmsch@buzz.rtp.dg.com
919-248-5910
From: trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight)
Subject: Re: WOOOOOOOFFFFFFF
Organization: Jes Grew Carriers -- Metaphysical Bunko Squad 
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:26:21 GMT

kthompso@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Kevin Thompson) writes:

>>Bold prediction:  Clemson goes 6-5, losing to FSU, Georgia Tech, UVA, 
>>   Maryland, and a 1-9 South Carolina team (the Gamecocks will have 
>>   defeated Alabama en route) and starts looking for a new coach.  You 
>>   heard it here first.  I'm not joking.

>surely warms my heart to hear a Clemson fan predict they won't be too good
>this year.  And I gather that you *do* mean it, and aren't just trying to
>take care of the woofing Gods.  But seriously, what's wrong with Clemson, for

:-|  You have to appease the woofing gods with a stoneface.  No, really.
We did stink up the general vicinity of North Avenue and Techwood Saturday
night...  Our "triple option" turned into something less than that, but
teams have always known what Clemson was going to do on offense.  The 
problem for Hatfield is coming up with something else now that half the
teams in the conference can actually stop us.  Tech was embarrassed on
defense last week, and that didn't help at all.  Tech was playing for
the respect that they lost, and Clemson apparently decided its season
was over after losing to FSU.

>weaknesses that the pre-season pundits missed?  Or are they just a bit flat,
>and still capable of reminding this Wahoo of the early '80s on October 10?

Sure...they're capable, but it won't happen.  They are great talent-wise,
but they lack a unifying team spirit.  They're more than just a bit flat.
I'm don't know why, unless it's because the FSU game was such a letdown.
In a must-win game, the Tigers shouldn't have lacked for collective
motivation, but they did.

I'm sure Clemson expects to take out its frustration on a little I-AA
school this weekend, but who knows what strange stuff will come to pass
now that Clemson is 1-2, 0-2.  It's been a while since people around
here have even had to stomach this sort of thing.  A loss to UTC and
it'll look worse around here than the night of the Danny Ford Vigil...
 
Trevor Bauknight         trev@hubcap.clemson.edu    ...gatech!hubcap!trev
 
                                                     +-----------+
                                                     | _> ###    |
                  Go Gamecocks...                    |     |     |
                                                     +-----------+
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: wuck fashington!!!
Organization: University of Michigan
	<1992Sep30.005606.10267@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> <ap1-F6@engin.umich.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:16:47 GMT

In article <ap1-F6@engin.umich.edu> chyang@engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:

   In article <1992Sep30.005606.10267@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado) writes:
   >dont mean we cant play against..and beat..them. Need I remind you folks in
   >Michigan of the 51-21 ass wupping we gave your sorry butts last year. You guys

No, but I think you do need to remind yourself.  Maybe you will get it right
the second time.  Doubt it.  Ask David, I'm sure he can help you out.

And Kevin, just how many of our boys did you personally bugger that day?

Bill


--
-------------------------------
	Bill Mangione-Smith
	billms@eecs.umich.edu
From: tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Roger's Top 25--5 Oct 92
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:50:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct6.215049.4998
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

>In article <5OCT199218530020@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY) writes:
>>68 SMU (3-2)		0.8
>>69 New Mexico St (3-2)	0.8
>>
>>After surprising 3-0 starts, these teams are now in a race to the bottom of 
>>the pack.  Either could easily lose out the rest of the season, and it 
>>could come down to a question of weakness of schedule.
>
>SMU didn't start 3-0. They lost their first game, at home, to Tulane. They
>missed a short field goal at the very end. They then won 3 in a row before
>having their Cotton Bowl and National Championship hopes nipped by Baylor
>this weekend.
>
>Jay

You forgot to mention that the Heisman campaign of Dandy Dan Freiburger was 
likely put to rest, also.


GT
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Quarterback Rating Formula
From: $garyf@SASB.BYU.EDU (Gary B. Fitzgerald)
Date: 5 Oct 92 10:44:51 -0700
Organization: Brigham Young University

Could someone please enlighten me on the formula used to get the quarterback 
rating or quarterback efficiency number.  Thanks so much.

Gary
From: poore@ds13.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: wuck fashington!!!
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:38:00 GMT
Reply-To: poore@ds13.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Florida State University

In article <1992Sep30.161550.28868@u.washington.edu> tannerg@milton.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:

[Reluctantly replying to a thread with a stupid subjectline...]

>And while we're at it, what's the story behind the Miami mascot?   #:)

Good question, Glenn!

I think it's a d^Hstork.

David Poore
poore@ds13.scri.fsu.edu

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ejohnson@goethe.helios.nd.edu (eric johnson)
Subject: Previous Stanford QB (1989)
Reply-To: ejohnson@goethe.helios.nd.edu (eric johnson)
Organization: Univ. of Notre Dame
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:52:25 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.203926.4695@ccad.uiowa.edu>, tshannon@ccad.uiowa.edu (Timothy J Shannon) writes:
|> 
|> 	I saw a post that someone wanted this, so here it is.
|> I might also post NAIA Div. I & II if I get time.
|> 
|> 	Poll
|> ----------------------------------------------------------------
|> NCAA Div II				Record	  Pts.       prvs.
|> ------------------------------------------------------------------

|> 20. Western State			3-1-0	    5		-
|> ----^^^^^^^^^^^^^--------------------------------------------------------------

Go Mountaineers!!!! Western State has successfully made the jump from NAIA to NCAA Div. II. They have a potent offensive attack and are led by former Stanford Quarterback, Steve Smith. Does anyone have any information on his statistics at Stanford in 1989. Was he any good??? Why did he transfer?? Did Walsh flat out tell him he wouldn't be starting this season??

*********************************************************************************
* Eric W. Johnson				ejohnson@bach.helios.nd.edu     *
*									        *
* NN   NN UU  UU						                *
* NNN  NN UU  UU  GO HUSKERS!!!!				    	        *
* NN N NN UU  UU  Herbie is my bud....					        *
* NN  NNN  UUUU								        *
*					         			        *
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: Bobby.Bowden.sucks.sucks.sucks
Keywords: the chockemiester, chokarama, the chokinator...
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 19:07:37 GMT


What the hell? Did "Saint Bobby" suddenly find out he is a distant relative
of Lou Holtz? I mean, come on! A field goal?! With our kickers?! What gives
with this nonsense? The clock was stopped with eight ticks to go. Anyone
with at least one brain cell would call a play and try for the win. But noooo.
Not Bobby. What a dork. Hell, even a good old fashioned "hail mary" pass would
have been better than that sorry excuse of a call. What a waste. Poor Vanover,
he choose FSU cause he wanted to be on the team that wins the first national
championship at FSU. Well, I feel sorry for him...'cause with Bowden at the 
helm FSU will _NEVER_ win ans NC. Bowden has got to be the limpest dick of all
coaches in division 1A football.

 
--- end ranting ---
From: cclaydon@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (C Robert Claydon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: The semi-annual OSU Badger choke
Date: 4 Oct 92 04:51:32 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*sigh*

In case some of you missed it, OSU decided to pack in the season yesterday and 
lost to U Wisconsin....


Rob
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: tjb@emt.b17c.ingr.com (Tony Bowman)
Subject: Re: WEEKLY TOP 25
Reply-To: tjb@emt.b17c.ingr.com  
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:06:35 GMT

In article <dkm2.718239369@Isis.MsState.Edu>, dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee) writes:
|> azzarito@cse.fau.edu (Doug Azzarito) writes:
|> >      -----=====< The A.P. Top 25 >=====-----
|> 
|> >THIS LAST
|> >WEEK WEEK  SCHOOL      W L T  Last Week's Results          Next Game
|> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> > 1    1  Washington    4 0 0  WON v. SouthernCal, 17-10    v. California,10/10
|> > 2    2  Miami         4 0 0  WON v. Florida St, 19-16     at Penn St., 10/10
|> > 3    4  Michigan      3 0 1  WON v. Iowa, 52-28           v. MichiganSt,10/10
|> > 4    7  Tennessee     5 0 0  WON at LSU, 20-0             v. Arkansas,10/10
|> > 5    5  Texas A&M     5 0 0  WON v. Texas Tech, 19-17     v. Rice, 10/17
|> > 6    9  Alabama       5 0 0  WON v. S. Carolina, 48-7     at Tulane, 10/10
|> 
|> Gee- Bama beats up the worst team in the SEC and moves up 3 places.  Who knows
|> after they pound Tulane they may even topple Washington. 
|> 
|> David
 	
	Gee David, don't get too upset.  I AM an Alabama fan but remember,
	If State beats Auburn (yuk !) and Bama, won't that make ya'll look
	even better.  Don't complain, it could help the Bulldogs before its
	over !

			Roll Tide Anyway !!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: swanson@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Bob Swanson)
Subject: Re: Mullet nonsense (was Grits nonsense)
Summary: Whaddya mean "nonsense?"
Keywords: Tailgate food 
Organization: Florida State University "Fine Cuisine" Department
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 21:41:07 GMT

swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
>
>MULLET!! Now you're talking!  Of course, it needs to be cooked the same day
>it was caught, or else we are talking major fishy smell........

No!  Smoke it.  (kids, don't try this at home!)
 
Smoked mullet and grits.  Wait, CHEESE grits.  Great for tailgating, don't
forget the boiled penders.
--
Bob Swanson			    Give me a lever long enough, and a place
swanson@loligo.cc.fsu.edu	    to stand, and I will break my lever.


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jade@triton.unm.edu (Eric Jaderlund)
Subject: Re: Miami, Washington, Florida State
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 16:06:58 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <91134@netnews.upenn.edu> taoc@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Chi-Chih Tao) writes:
>No need to wuch fashington.  Miami will be blown away by Fashington, which will
>be in turn blown away by Florida State.
>
>And you Huskies dead meat will be served with white wine by the Wolverines
>on Jan. 1.

Ohhhhh NOW I understand!!! Michigan decided not to score many points
in last years Rose Bowl so they can use them this year!!! And here
I thought that Washington was a great team.... silly me!

-Eric Jaderlund 
 jade@triton.unm.edu
From: seale@bcserv.wustl.edu (Seale (Jeff))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Texas Tech vs. Texas A&M
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:23:44 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcserv.wustl.edu

[stuff about Tech linebacker's putting down a&m deleted]

As a Tech grad, I have always been a little envious of the
a&m traditions. At Tech, we have to bust our ass to sell out the
stadium, and that only occurs after lots of media bitching about
how no one supports Tech. Of course, we have no problem supporting
the Raiders when they play a&m and ut, but there will never be a
sold out Jones Stadium for a game with SMU, Rice, Baylor, TCU or
Houston. Oh, to see the day when there are 55,000 red and black
clad Red Raider fans at every home game!
Go TECH!
-Jeff
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:15:58 EDT
From: Spiro the Spiny Goldfish <MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Bowl alliance a crock!
 <1992Oct1.153541.770@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>

In article <1992Oct1.153541.770@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming) says:
>
>
>The alliance is not at fault here.  It is a Big Ten rule which forbids Penn
>State to participate in alliance bowls.  No Big Ten team is permitted to
>participate.  Is this unfair?  Tough!  It is the price Penn State must pay for
>upgrading its non-football sports by joining the Big Ten.

You are incorrect. There is no place for Penn State in the alliance.
There is only one spot for an "independent" team, and it is reserved
for Notre Dame. Penn State is playing the season as an independent, and
is thus locked out of any alliance bowl.
----
Mike Dahmus       MXD118@PSUVM  or  dahmus@cs.psu.edu
TEAM OS/2
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ddn@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.d.nason)
Subject: OSU-Wisconsin and such
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:31:22 GMT

Congratulations to Wisconsin for beating the Buckeyes. 
However, what a horrible game - neither team played
well and Wisconsin, in particular, seemed intent
on giving the game away with all those silly penalties.
Wisconsin got it done when they needed it though, with the
two opening drives of the second half and the defensive 
stop in the last few minutes.

It appeared to me Wisconsin was greater than or equal to
Ohio State's physical strength.  Ohio State's advantage
in the skill positions was neutralized by injuries.

Wisconsin is a much improved team, and could do very well
in the Big-10 race.  But they're going to have to eliminate
the penalties and other sloppy play to do it.

Ohio State's problem is pretty simple from my perspective ...
they need to get healthy.

david
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: alc@netcom.com (Chris Stassen)
Subject: Re: CFPOOL: Week #4 Results
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 14:49:39 GMT
Organization: The Lion's Den, San Jose
Reply-To: stassen@alc.com
Distribution: usa

joconnor@evax11.eng.fsu.edu writes:
[Noting that my wife beat me in the pool:]
|  843.58 | 14/18  77% | 06-04-04 |  2850.23 | 045/071  63% | Diana Stassen   |
|  768.85 | 12/18  66% | 05-04-03 |  2983.60 | 048/071  67% | Chris Stassen   |

> what with this chris??
> Do you have to buy dinner this week?

Naaah.  I'm holding my own at 2-2 against her this year.  
Last year, when I was 0-11 against her, well, ...
-- 
Chris Stassen						stassen@alc.com
DISCLAIMER:  My employer's account, but not their opinions.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Subject: Re: Aggie Riot (was Re: Best marching band)
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:13:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.175002.5583@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>
     cobarruvias@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov writes:
 
>Well I heard it a bit different. The mob was imitating the Aggie Band, with
>some members even wearing Aggie uniforms. This, of course, really pissed off
>the band to a point that fights broke out. The mob has never been invited back
>for this reason.
 
 
Well, actually, they have been back.  The *only* college football game
I attended (see the thread on ticket prices for students) was in 1984,
and it was the Rice at TAMU game at Kyle Field.  I seem to remember
the MOB did a parody of the Aggie of some sort, but it was fairly low
key.
 
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jade@triton.unm.edu (Eric Jaderlund)
Subject: Re: Miami vs. Arizona
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 17:07:07 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Sep27.162444.9055@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> pws2n@vision1.ee.Virginia.EDU (Philip Weaver Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Sep27.014329.29016@u.washington.edu>,
>baze@carson.u.washington.edu (Behzad Khamneian) writes:
>|> Any team that can beat Arizona 8-7 deserves my #1 vote.  NOT!!!!
>|> What happened to all those east-coasters who knock PAC-10 teams?
>|> 
>|> Arizona:  Great effort.  The Wildcats should feel good about
>themselves.
>|> Miami:    Should feel lousy.  They showed everyone that they are not
>the
>|>           hot shots that they claim to be.
>|> 
>|> Some FSU fan posted about how Washington will come down in the polls
>because
>|> of their lousy schedule.  Well, for the time being, the pollsters
>should
>|> 
>|> 
>
>
>Remeber now, just because a team has a bad day does not mean they are
>no
>good!  Next time you have a bad day, should your school or employer
>scrap you?! I think not.  Its all a mute point anyway.  The real
>decision
>will be made after next week's FSU vs. Miami contest.  The winner of
>that
>game will be ( and deserves to be ) number 1. 
>
>An aside - seeing that you are from UWash. . .  Come on, if you go back
>and do a realistic review of last year's number #1 fiasco, you will see
>that Miami had the tougher opponents in every category ( Record of
>opponents,
>number of opponents in bowls, number of opponents who won bowls, etc.
>).
>Until you can prove that Washington faces tougher competition and until
>UM loses they should ( and probably will ) remain number #1.
>
>Go 'CANES, BLUE HENS, and CAVALIERS!


A teams schedule has NOTHING to do with how good that team is....the
best team of all time would still be so if it played easy teams every
game...An easy schedule just makes it more difficult to tell how good
a team is.  In any case...it was well discussed here last year and Washingtons
schedule last year was just as tough as Miamis was... if you have numbers
to show different please post them.

And of course that all has nothing to do with THIS season in any case.
Miami's poor showing against Arizona has cost them #1 in the CNN Poll...
does this mean that the Canes must have an easy schedule??????? :-)

-Eric Jaderlund
 jade@triton.unm.edu
From: lbaum@bcsaic.boeing.com (Larry Baum)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Roger's Top 25--28 Sep
Date: 3 Oct 92 15:53:55 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services AI Center, Seattle

: In article <29SEP199219360254@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY) writes:
: >The polls dropped Miami! The polls dropped Miami!  I had always been told
: >"It's like the heavy weight championship--you have to lose it.  No, rape 
: >convictions don't count, you have to lose it on the field."  But, come to 
: >find out, a nancy-boy limp-wristed win counts as a loss, if there's another 
: >#1 team who you've never proven you're any better than and you were only #1 
: >because most of the voters take vacations a couple miles from your school. 
: >
I do not think the analogy with boxing works.  To be #1 in
boxing, you have to "earn" it; i.e. there is no "new season"
where people must vote from an entirely new list of boxers.
The polls early in the season are just guesses by the
pollsters about who is likely to be dominant.  Miami never
"earned" the #1 ranking (i.e. last year's team is not the one
being voted on.)  Have the Huskies "earned it?  No.  it's to
early in the season.  

In a situation here there are still lots of undefeated teams
it is perfectly reasonable for voters to change their opinions
based on a poor showing by one team or a great performance by
another.  Even at the end of the season, if there are 2 or
more undefeated teams, it seems perfectly reasonable that one
should change one's mind baswed on new evidence.  Such as the
Huskies completely dominating Michigan while Mimi has trouble
with Nebraska, as happened last year.




-- 
Larry Baum
Computer Science Organization
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