From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: Passing out Condoms (Was Re: Better Off Than Four Years Ago NOT)
Organization: Carleton University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:38:14 GMT

In <2364@unet.UUCP> stank@perrault.unet.com (Stan Knight) writes:

>In article <1992Sep1.115837.4255@ornl.gov> de5@ORNL.GOV (Dave Sill) writes:
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>>In article <mjenkins.715300197@cunews>, mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes:
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>>>If you're too "embarassed" to buy the condom, you should be more
>>>embarassed to have sex.
>>
>>Nonsense.
>>
>>Intercourse is a private act; purchasing condoms is not, it's often public. 
>>In a small town, it's hard to keep such a thing secret.  People should have
>>the right to keep their personal matters private.  Distributing condoms
>>through a school nurse under guaranteed privacy helps encourage their use by
>>those predisposed to both having sex and using condoms.
>>



>>-- 
>>Dave Sill (de5@ornl.gov)	   For every Bill Joy there is a Kirk McKusick.
>>Martin Marietta Energy Systems     For every Bill Gates there is a Richar

>Very true Dave. It seems that all these anti-condom people either lead very
>boring and sexually oppressed lifes in their teeny years or they have 
>completely forgotten what it was like being a teen. Remember all those hormones
>running amok inside your body, all those urges you didn't even know
existed?

Give me a break. I'm 23, I have lots of memories of my teenage years,
which consisted of working part-time, going to school full-time (the
adventure finally concludes this year), and dating occasionally. Sure,
you get sexual urges. Doesn't mean you have to act upon them! I also
get the urge to kill people (which is occuring more frequently as I
read this group) but I don't go buy a gun and start shooting.

Perhaps if teens were more constructive with their time, rather than
just "hanging out" or "going to the mall" they would find better
things to do than have sex. Sex is not the be-all and end-all of human
existance. I lived a very happy life for 21 and a half years before I
had sex. I still live a happy life. The only thing that has changed is
that I now have a regular sex partner.

And for all the nonsense about "well, everyone is doing it"...its not
true. Sure, *lots* of kids are having sex. But those who have chosen
to wait are under *incredible* pressure because the "safe-sex"
campaigns are stressing that "everyone is doing it." Thus, if you're
not "doing it" you must be some kind of freak. 

Hate to tell you this, but my wife and I were *both* virgins when we
got married. No, we didn't know everthing on our wedding night, but
neither one of us was expecting to. This means, of course, that being
abstinant until marriage, andnow married and monogamous, we are at NO
risk for STDs. Its a wonderful life. You should encourage teens to try it.

 
>protect. And don't give me this "just say no" b.s. With most teens you have
>as much chance of "talking" them out of having sex as you do "talking" your
>cat out of heat. 

Why? Do you think teens actually *enjoy* having to constantly fret
over whether they're pregnant, or just impregnated someone? Or whether
they just got AIDS, or if they're gonna get caught by their parents?
As I said above, I never, ever had to worry about those things as a
teen. Made my life much more stress free, and I could concentrate on
more important things like getting an education.

And the cat analogy is just plain silly. The human sex drive is NOT the same
as animals. If you are a slave to your sex drive in the same manner as
a cat is, then I feel very, very sorry for you. Besides, you know what
we do to cats in heat if they keep bothering us <snip, snip>.


>Stan Knight
>|"What kind of society is it that allows you to buy plastic covers to protect|
>|your furniture but not your children?" ---Gilda Radner---                   |

What kind of society is it that equates the well-being of our children
with an inanimate object like furniture?

Michael
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