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From: mcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Killans - First And Last And Always)
Subject: Re: Summary of X-Cutioner's Song Continued
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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 14:38:18 GMT

In article <03DEC92.18804424.0085@VM1.MCGILL.CA> CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP) writes:
>I said
>
>>First of all, as Cable thinks he is Askani's son,
>
>and thrice I was unable to post what I wanted to say.  Doesn't matter
>'cause everyone who read X-Force #18 agreed that Cable was Nathan and
>not Stryfe anyway.
>
Ouch! I thought just the opposite - Stryfe seemed pretty damn sure that *he*
was the real one, and Cable seemed pretty uncertain. We also saw enough 'flesh'
torn off Cable's metal body to suggest that he could quite easily be just a
robot, created by Askani (hence the name 'Askani'son '), maybe to replace a 
real Nathan who had gone bad (and become Stryfe).

Then again, by this point I was so fed up with the whole thing that ryfe
could have admitted to being really Ronald Reagan and I wouldn't have paid
much attention...

Whatever, I think it's pretty obvious that they are from the *same* future,
and hence one is a copy (clone, robot, whatever) of the other.
Either way, I doubt I'll find out in a hurry, cos I'm dropping these books.
For all the usual reasons people have been dropping them. I may get X-Factor,
and I'll get Excalibur when written by Davis, and I may even buy the Classics.
But the rest can sit on the shelves like the trash it has become.

Mike
From: donald@dvinci.USask.Ca (David Donald)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Bishop
Date: 12 Dec 1992 20:29:53 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
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chak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Buckshot Willie) writes:


>   I don't understand why none of the above X-Men have been killed in the
>way I described, or some variant.  None of these people have any kind of
>armour or super endurance.  The telepathic people in the group shouldn't have 
>any warning of what's going on, unlesss they scan other X-Men's thoughts
>every time they come near.

>   For the next group of people, simple use the power negation device he has,
>then shoot them in the head, or puch them.

>Colossus, Rogue, Beast, Wolverine.  
                         ^^^^^^^^^^

Ok, two Disclaimers:  1) I'm far too old to be a fanboy.  2) I hate how they're
ruining all the previous character development of Logan...

Anyway... this won't work.  Logan's entire skeleton (including his skull) has
been bonded to Adamantium.  Tough stuff.  Even shooting him in the head won't 
work, unless you put the gun in his mouth or shoot in through the eye or ear.

Two.  Logan's a ninja, more or less.  Even without the hearing and smell, he's 
going to be very tough to sneak up on.

Three... the claws are not a power.  He's going to cut his hands when he "pops"
them, and they won't heal up right away like they normally do, but he's still
got them and still knows how to use them.

Nope, the smart way to kill the old boy is long range, not close up.  And if
you're at long range, then the power negation device won't work.

Question: I assume the power negation device is an area of effect:  If so, 
how come it doesn't cancel Bishops' powers as well?

Dave
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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Subject: Re: TRIO AS TRAITOR
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:15:51 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

The Cosmic Kwaame is back! The net has meaning again!

Sadly, I'm just going to comment on one line from the ol' Galatic Gigolo
this time around. The rest of his post, dealing with the usual thoughts on
who the X-traitor might be, has been deleted. Go find it for yourself.

>Anybody notice that the other scientist was named Marko?? as in Bugggernaut?
>heh.

The scientist that Kwaame is talking about was the one recently re-introduced
in the X-Men (blank) title, in the incomprehensible Xavier Files storyline.
Actually, this is a plot thread that goes back to the 60s. Marko had always
worked along with the (elder) Xavier, and they were good friends. When
Cain Marko (who would become the Juggernaut) needed a place to stay after,
I believe, his parents died, the elder Xavier took him in.

"Daydreaming Days in a Daydream Nation."
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From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Re: Solo X-Dudes
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:32:31 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1gn0nuINNne5@agate.berkeley.edu> joak@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jonathan A. Kung) writes:
>Say, remember Solo Avengers?  Spotlight on Hawkeye+someoneelseentirely?
>Wonder why they don't do that for the X-People. 

Perhaps 'cause they learned their lesson with Solo Avengers? /Naaah


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From: jmw20@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Joshua Michael Wolf)
Subject: What if?
Reply-To: jmw20@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Joshua Michael Wolf)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:18:12 GMT

When I went to my comic shop on Friday, they neither had nor knew anything
about the What If? everyone's been taking about that supposedly ties up the
traitor thread that people have been putting WAAAAAY too much thought into.
(I mean, admit it.  Some of the theories you guys have come up with are
interesting, but way above the head of yer average Marvel writers, let alone
Lobdell)
Anyway, anbody got a release date confirmed?

Josh

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From: mark@mars.camb.inmet.com (Mark Hertel)
Subject: Re: What is Wolverine's mutant power?
Keywords: Wolverine, mutant
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:01:19 GMT

In article <BzF33G.I87@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> chak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Chak the Destroyer) writes:
>Healing Factor
>--------------
>  I have seen his healing factor heal a sword through the heart and lungs,
>in the Kitty/Wolvie MS, as well as protect him from cancer, or so he says
>so that he can smoke, and it is supposed to make him almost immune to most
>poisons.  He wasn"t affected by poison in X-Men 172 (nor was Rogue), but
>he got drunk in an annual (where he became a "god" later).  And I think it
>makes him age slower.
>
>Every other ability or enhancement to him isn't part of his mutant abilities.
>These include his skeleton, claws, ninja abilities, and such.
>
>Chak  
>

The getting drunk only occurred right after he drank a large quantity
of beer and then only lasted for moments.  I remember from around the
Kitty/Wolverine LS he comments to Kitty that he can't even hide from
his troubles by getting drunk, because his body removes the alcohol
so rapidly from his bloodstream.

mark
mark@inmet.com
From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Subject: Re: Super Strength...
Organization: Victoria University of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 09:54:15 GMT

aj005b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Hulk like snow!) writes:

>In article <Bz2CAt.MLn@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> chak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Chak the Destroyer) writes:
>>
>>   It seems incredibly feasible to me that most of the X-Men could be
>>killed by someone with super-strength.  There is absolutely no way in
>>hell that any of the X-Men, save Bishop, Rogue, Colossus, Woverine, &
>>Beast (maybe, not sure), could survive being puched by a peson that can
>>lift/press 1 ton, let alone these people that lift/press 80 - 100 tons.
>>It simply is not possibly.  A guy up here at Purdue was killed by a 
>>simple kick to the head, and the guy that did it was of average build.
>>I have always been under the impression that all the X-Men (except those
>>excluded above) are normal humans, except they can shoot beams out of   
>>their eyes, or can read people's thoughts, or whatever.  They have no
>>super resistance or endurance.  Here's an example of what I am talking
>>about.

I don't think Bishop has a high degree of durability. Beast
would have just as much chance of surviving as Wolverine 
(except that he is less popular and Marvel wouldn't kill him).

>	Does anyone remember our gumbo eating creole pal Gambit.  He took
>a couple shots from that Shiar guy with the green mohak.  His name is
>Gladiater and  he is definately tough.  In FF he lifted the Baxter bulding.
>Since yer average high altitude edifice has nearly 5000 tons of steal and
>concrete, I would think that a punh from this guy would be farely potent.

In the Marvel Handbook `Gladiator''s strength is listed as
incalcuable. He has `excellent hand to hand' fighting skills 
and his reflexes and agility are both metahuman. Therefore
we can safely say he is quite powerful. Even without his
`demi-godlike' durability.

Jed
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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Subject: NO! (Was: Re: Fixing the X-men TAS
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:07:13 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

James Chiu writes:
>Anybody know when the first three episodes come out that
>whether the cartoonist may try to edit them a bit so that all the errors
>are out-eg. Jubilee's goofup appearance in #2, Rogue's eyes, ...
                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^
NO! That thread is DEAD! I, myself, saw to it. I dragged it, kicking and
screaming, behind the shed, threw it on the ground, pitilessly ignored its
plaintive cries, put my boot over its neck and beat its head in with an old
tire iron.

And, on other, more real matters, I doubt that the X-MTAS episodes will
be "fixed", given the nature and cost of animation.

"It's the homogenous oscillizer." --Rev. Leidermann


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From: MEYEBRU1@MINNA.IIT.EDU (Brucha S. Meyers)
Subject: Re: Mutants that teleport
Organization: ILLINOIS INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY, CHICAGO
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 19:11:30 GMT
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In <1992Dec16.232002.12391@netcom.com> jherico@netcom.com writes:

> lets not forget the winner of the 'invent your own mutant power' contest
> who ended up appearing in power pack as the little girl who teleports to
> bright lights.  Hmmm....this might make a good nomination for 'stupidest
> power'.  
> 
> "Look <name forgotten>, isnt that a pretty sunset?"
> <poof>
> 
> B. Austin Davis
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> We called him Uncle Cave because he lived in a cave   |  Just zis paladin
> and occationally he would come out and eat one of us. |     you know?
> Later, we found out he was a bear.                    | "Yep, did that too."


Actually, the winner of the "invent your own mutant power contest" was Alchemy,
who has a pretty decent power, IMHO.  His first appearance was in X-Factor, but
he recently re-appeared in Excalibur.


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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Subject: Re: Jim and Homage Studios
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 03:50:26 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

A friend of wReam, talking about Homage studios, said:

>> (I'm trying to get a friend to send some of his artwork in).

wReam said:

>
>						NEVER!
>For the last time JOHN!  I refuse to ever work for HOMAGE studios!!!
>So Leave Me be!!  

So, wReam's an artist, huh? I guess this explains why his writing is
the way it is over in LNH, a la Rob Liefeld... :-)

>P.S.  I do know somewhat how Dave feels!  Even a pest has pests that pester! 

The advantage of being the pesteree is that you have access to bug spray.

		PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

No more wReam!

"Ouch." --Richard Darwin

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My mind is a jackal.--Richard Darwin // What was the question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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From: c60c-3gg@web-4e.berkeley.edu ()
Subject: Re: the X-Traitor
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 00:28:03 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.214851.810@ncsu.edu> rmaddy@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD M ADDY) writes:
>
>Let's see ... "More so than any of your students, I understand what you're
>going through.." she thinks at the unconscious Xavier.  Could be a remark
>about the Hand, as Robert Ramirez points out, but could equally apply to
>the White Queen.  Besides, I still cluth the shreds of hope that the Hellions
							^^^^
>will be back.  After all, Tarot died twice, didn't she?  She could come back.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Really!  
>-- 
>---------------------------------------------
>Richard Addy
>NCSU
>rmaddy@eos.ncsu.edu
>
>"One Objects! 
>   One is miffed in the extreme!"
>           - Eupathic Impulse
>                  _Jack_the_Bodiless_
>                      Julian May

From the looks of things in the recent New Warrior issue, I believe they
are ready to finish the Hellions once and for all.  (Firestar's new
custom looks lame, any other opinions?)

							J.T.

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From: kbos@lacerta.unm.edu (K. Mitchell Bose)
Subject: Re: Think only Gambit survives? WRONG!!
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 10:24:42 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Dec12.091741.3516@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> nieboer@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Doctor Gonzo) writes:
>
>	Remember in UXM 284 (?) when Bishop visits the Witness, or
>Gambit, whatever, and he is confronted by a cloaked woman with only
>her slightly Asian-looking eyes visible? Her name is Shackle. Bear
>a resemblance to any other X-Man's name?
>
>Here's a hint: a shackle is part of a lock, or locke if you prefer.

Yeah, that shackle she snapped on Bishop's wrist woulda been too obvious.

Besides, her breasts are too small.  :)



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 hereby for the murdering of the dead Belzic Tascar.  I am obliged to warn you 
 that my weapons are registered as offensive fronds!!"- R.M.Allen, "Monkey See"
From: c60b-3fe@web-3f.berkeley.edu (Mikel B.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Song Part 12 was inane!
Date: 17 Dec 92 07:58:50 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: web-3f.berkeley.edu


  I don't know why you were digging up ancient posts either.  That
one had dust on it, it was so old.

Nice triangle though.  I couldn't stop laughing.

Mikel B.
Actually it was mostly from seeing such an old post.
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From: castle@cs.dal.ca (JULIAN GUTHRIE CASTLE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.info
Subject: newsitem: SPIDERMAN  and MR. MAGOO movies
Keywords: movies, Schwarzenegger, Jack Nicholson
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:39:42 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada


this is about 2 comic movies and a few other movies I thought were cool

quote is from "Tribute Goes to the Movies"
Vol9, Issue 7 Dec.92/Jan.93

"We may soon see Spiderman with Arnold Schwarzenegger as the evil
scientist and Jack Nicholson as the Green Goblin. Still no word as to who
would play Spidey. (Too bad Jack Webb is no longer with us.)"

"Other classic TV shows ... Mr. Magoo with Bob Hoskins"

-END Comics quote-

-Start Non-comics quote in same 'article'-

"Kevin [Cosner] ...is also researching a film called "The Mick" ... about
Irish revolutionary Michael Collins, who was killed by a faction of the
IRA at the turn of the century"

"Robin Williams ... the lead in "Being Human" in which he'll play several
characters of a 6,000 year period"

"Other classic TV shows ... include The Fugitive with Harrison Ford and
The Saint with either Roger Moore, Daniel Day-Lewis, Brad Pitt or Matt
Dillon"

-END Non-Comics quote-

My thoughts:
	??evil scientist??  Arnie, is this you being a good role model ?
	In the included pic, Nicholson DOES look like Harry.

	Why is a faction of the IRA always blamed ?  :):)

	The Fugitive !!!!!  GREAT !!!!! ABOUT TIME! (I love the series and
		always wondered if The Fugitive was pardoned in a final
		episode.)

	The Saint is up there with James Bond and since James Bond is
	being published by Dark Horse I thought people might be interested.


	Marilyn Denis is very annoying. egg. "Now for a behind-the-scenes
	look at Tom Cruise. We heard that Tom had liposuction done on his
	rear..."

	Marilyn Denis also gets it partially incorrect.  egg "The Bradys
	aren't the only TV characters making the leap to celluloid soon.
	We may soon see Spiderman...."

	Is Marlyn annoying on purpose? or has she been ordered to write
	this way?


Yours Sincerely,
	Julian Castle

////////
   o-o / o o o I know "The Fugitive" isn't a comic, but...WOW!
  /////////



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-Brian V. Hughes
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From: berninge@cs.purdue.edu (James Berninger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.info
Subject: Quantum Leap comic guide update
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:54:41 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: Department of Computer Sciences, Purdue University


The following has been added to the Quantum Leap comic guide.  The
complete guide is available by anonymous FTP from ziggy.3com.com, or
mail the author.

v1 #10.  Apr 1993

"Too Funny for Words"
Written by Peter Quinones
Illustrated by John Garcia

13 Jun 1966 -- Sam "is" Manny Todd, a stand-up comic whose routines
depend mostly on dirty jokes and "obscene" language.  Constantly
harassed by the local police and judge, he tries to fight for his
civil rights.  Trying to help an old silent film star regain his
past glory doesn't help matters, either.

***********

v1 #11.  Teaser: Feeling comfortable that he has leapt into a
medical doctor, Sam realizes that he is Dr. Epstein, a German doctor
who is to learn of the effects of LSD on human subjects.

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From: ndallen@r-node.gts.org (Nigel Allen)
Subject: Paintings by Winston Churchill to be Exhibited at Reagan Library in Simi Valley
Organization: Echo Beach, Toronto
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 08:04:28 GMT

Here is a press release from the Ronald Reagan Library. I have
no connection with the library. It sounds like it might be interesting,
even if you don't like ex-president Reagan.

 Paintings by Winston Churchill to be Exhibited at Reagan Library
 To: City and Assignment Desks
 Contact: Ronald Reagan Library Public Affairs, 805-522-8444

   News Advisory:

   A unique and exciting collection of paintings by Winston
Churchill will be featured in a special exhibition at the Ronald
Reagan Presidential Library, from Dec. 19, 1992, through Feb. 21,
1993.
   This exhibit, titled "Painting As A Pastime: The Art and
Treasures of Sir Winston Churchill," includes the largest
collection of Churchill's paintings exhibited in the United States.
Thirty-two of Churchill's paintings, covering a period from 1915
through 1951, will be on display.
   Several of the Churchill paintings come from members of the
Churchill family, notably The Lady Mary Soames (Winston and
Clementine Churchill's youngest daughter); Winston S. Churchill, MP
(his grandson); Pamela C. Harriman, (his daughter-in-law); and
Edwina Sandys (his granddaughter).  Others are from private
collections and historic institutions such as Chartwell, The
National Trust in England (Chartwell was Churchill's home), the
Hallmark Fine Arts Collections, and the Wells Collection.  The
exhibition will also include paintings of Winston Churchill by Paul
Maze and John Spencer Churchill, loaned by the Winston Churchill
Memorial and Library, Westminster College at Fulton, Mo.
   Winston Churchill took up painting in 1915, at the age of 40.
At the time, he had been turned out of office, and it appeared that
his public career may well have been over.  He modestly referred to
his paintings during this period as "my daubs."  Critics have not
been so restrained.  The art historian, David Coombs, has said that
"No one can fail to have been impressed by the bravura and
distinction of Sir Winston's paintings."  Churchill's paintings
have hung in London auction rooms, the Royal Academy, and the
Metropolitan Museum of Art, alongside history's most illustrious
artists.  "If anything, " Coombs maintains, "as an artist Sir
Winston is the victim of his own fame as a statesman."
   The Ronald Reagan Presidential Library is one of nine
presidential libraries operated and maintained by the National
Archives.  It is located at 40 Presidential Dr., Simi Valley,
Calif.  93065.  No additional museum admission fee will be charged
for this exhibit.  Regular fees are: General Admission $3; Seniors
(age 62 and over) $1; Children, 15 and under are admitted free.
Additional information and directions can be obtained by calling
805-522-8444.
 -30-
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From: tdh@ksr.com (Dave Hudson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
Subject: Re: ballroom gowns
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:28:40 EST
Organization: Kendall Square Research, Waltham MA

>Second [criterion]:  ankle length.

> I had gotten my heel caught in my hem and had ripped a part of the
> skirt.

The length probably depends on the dance you're doing; ankle length
would probably have been OK for your waltz, but watch out for more
lively dances!  A partner of mine for a swing at a ball not only
caught her heel in her dress but also tripped moving and falling away
from me.  I was not slow to react, and not unaccustomed to such
things, but was nevertheless unable to catch her.  This sort of
out-of-control fall, less harmful but much more visible than a
spiking, might have caused an injury under only slightly different
circumstances.

				David Hudson
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