HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rrw@sunset.cse.nau.edu (Bob Wier)
Newsgroups: alt.rissa,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: How does a PI locate somebody?
Date: 3 Jan 93 05:26:29 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rissa
Originator: rrw@sunset.cse.nau.edu

From article <1993Jan3.025518.1917@panix.com>, by gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch):
> 
> Back in the '70s I read that a minimal identity package
> (birth certificate, driver's license, maybe a few other
> items) could be obtained for four or five hundred dollars.
> I don't know what the fee is these days.  But I'm sure
> that at less than the price of a good used car, out of 
> sight is just around the corner.
 
  I'm given to understand that a serious problem today is that
  the SSN is very close to being a national identity number.
  If you are, say, 40 and go to apply for one, they look at 
  you VERY strangely unless you have a plausible explanation -
  such as recent immigration...

- Bob Wier

  ---------- insert favorite standard disclaimers here ----------
                   College of Engineering
      Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff Arizona
  Internet: rrw@naucse.cse.nau.edu | WB5KXH | fax:602 523 2300
From: dlupul@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Darren Lupul)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
Subject: Vasopressin Synthesis?
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 01:22:54 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

In an attempt to thwart high prices, and difficulties in acquiring 
prescriptions all the time, how feasible is it to synthesize Vasopressin? 
While on the topic, how about the synthesis of Piracetam, Oxiracetam. I 
guess for Hydergine you would be getting pretty close to LSD, so that 
might not be wise with respect to legal risks.


Darren Lupul              dlupul@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Aphrodisiacs (Was Re: question:)
Organization: Microdata Oy
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 17:12:37 GMT

kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey) writes:

>I always find that flowers work well.

   At least the dried female flowers of Cannabis sativa L. are reported to be
very effective when smoked.
--
Jani Heinonen		jah@mits.mdata.fi		Finger for PGP key
From: ralf@ark.abg.sub.org (R.Stephan)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
Subject: Re: Archaic Revival -- by Terence McKenna
Date: 1 Jan 93 11:07:00 GMT
Organization: Not Very Ltd.

dlr@well.sf.ca.us (David L Racette) writes:
> Then when even higher doses are used there is the whole the process of self
> reflection and self awareness increases.

So what?  The babies will all be stupid again.
Do you also think that a bodybuilder's children will have big muscles?

ralf
--
*********************************************************
"I like pigs.  Dogs look up to us.  Cats look down on us.
 Pigs treat us as equals."            (Winston Churchill)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
From: dlr@well.sf.ca.us (David L Racette)
Subject: Re: Archaic Revival -- by Terence McKenna
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 23:58:11 GMT


It is true that part of McKenna's dialogue revolves around what he believes
was one of the driving forces in evolution. This was the incorporation of
hallucinogenic mushrooms into the diet of roving bands of monkeys. It was
found on the dung of cattle.

In short McKenna says that small doses of psilocybin increase visual acuity
(which has apparently been proven although I did not read the original
papers). This would impart an advantage to tribes of monkeys that were
hunting.

Higher doses of the same substance increase the desire to copulate and if
more copulation goes on there is more successful copulation and an increase
in the size of the tribe.

Then when even higher doses are used there is the whole the process of self
reflection and self awareness increases.

Something or "things" contributed to the extremely rapid development brain
and mind. This certainly could have contributed, but who knows. There is
certainly evidence that mushrooms were used about 17000 yrs ago, but beyond
that seems speculative at best.

-DR
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: Archaic Revival -- by Terence McKenna
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 02:42:53 GMT

Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
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Keywords: 

In article <2b448846wnr070@ark.abg.sub.org> ralf@ark.abg.sub.org (R.Steph
n) writes:
>dlr@well.sf.ca.us (David L Racette) writes:
>> Then when even higher doses are used there is the whole the process of
self
>> reflection and self awareness increases.
>
>So what?  The babies will all be stupid again.
>Do you also think that a bodybuilder's children will have big muscles?
>
>ralf
>--
>*********************************************************
>"I like pigs.  Dogs look up to us.  Cats look down on us.
> Pigs treat us as equals."            (Winston Churchill)


 We had to go and piss off Darwin's great-grandson...

St. Anthony

--
          / N \   O                   Mi vsi smo krizhani,
         |   \ |  || Ph               chlani izbrani
         |   | |_O-C-C-OH             mesarskega ceha...
BZ        \ / /      Ph                            aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
From: dlr@well.sf.ca.us (David L Racette)
Subject: Re: Archaic Revival -- by Terence McKenna
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 02:00:57 GMT

In <2b448846wnr070@ark.abg.sub.org> ralf@ark.abg.sub.org (R.Stephan) writes:

>dlr@well.sf.ca.us (David L Racette) writes:
>> Then when even higher doses are used there is the whole the process of self
>> reflection and self awareness increases.

>So what?  The babies will all be stupid again.
>Do you also think that a bodybuilder's children will have big muscles?

>ralf
>--
>*********************************************************
>"I like pigs.  Dogs look up to us.  Cats look down on us.
> Pigs treat us as equals."            (Winston Churchill)
I think Mckenna was referencing 100-500k yrs, not one generation. Besides,
argue with him,not with me<g>.
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From: glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives,alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Leary, Manson, Kleps and other questions...
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:27:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

>> I think his charge was actually conspiracy to commit murder, still a big
>>one though... I also thought he was in a meximum security mental ward...
>>I saw a spread on him in Time or Life. He pretty much gets what he wants
>>where he is, except out... He gets solitude, which I would think is a
>>blessing for any lifer...
>
>No, Charlie is *not* in a mental ward: the state of California does
>not consider him to be insane.  He has never been declared insane
>or certified a public danger because of psychotic instability.
>Further, it's pretty much a given that within the next 5-10 years
>the parole board will run out of reasons not to release him (his
>"life" sentence is a soft/evaluative one).  Lastly, the state would
>have a hell of a time getting him declared criminally insane after
>maintaining for 20+ years that he *isn't* insane, so they'd have no
>constitutional grounds to hold him.
>
>Charlie's getting out, folks.  Maybe not now, but soon enough...

Not if he has anything to say about it. (info here from Manson in HIs Own
Words, Amok Press, CA, USA) While in  prison he has been constantly
fighting off attempts on his life. Think about it. What small-time hood
wouldn;t want to be nationally known as "the guy who killed Manson?" What
is your evidence for thinking his sentence is "evaluative" 

In responding to this; if your only info source is Helter Skelter (the
book, not the movie) keep in mind that VT Bugliosi (sp?) was the
prosecuting attorney in the case, and should not be considered an unbiased
observer
-- 
"A horse! A horse! Somebody give me a horse, man, because|glazier@ 
I come to bury this dirtball, not to praise him. Whaddya |harvard.isr.edu
think I am? Whether it's nobler for the mind to make people suffer with all
these totally outrageous arrows arrows for a fortune, or what!" -- D.R.
From: rteasdal@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Rusty)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
Subject: Current InHome pricing?
Date: 4 Jan 93 04:45:02 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, CSc Department


	Does anyone have a recent price list from InHome Health
Services? I have one gotten at second hand, but it's a few months
old, and I'm not sure whether or not currency exchange rate fluctuations
have rendered the prices in it invalid.

	Replies by email, please; all I need are current quotes for
oxiracetam and vinpocetine.



 
-- 
||||||||   Russ Teasdale -- rteasdal@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU  --  (Rusty)  ||||||||
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"Gentlemen, if we do not succeed, then we run the risk of failure." - D. Quayle
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
From: cyberpun@wam.umd.edu (Digital Druid)
Subject: question:
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 23:49:11 GMT

  I think this question belongs on alt.psychoactives, plus I am just 
curious.  Is there such a thing as a medically proven aphrodesiac?


digital.druid

Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives,alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
From: yazz@locus.com (Bob Yazz)
Subject: Re: Leary, Manson, Kleps and other questions...
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 20:53:03 GMT

bprofane@netcom.com (Gert Niewahr) writes:

| Charlie [Manson]'s getting out, folks.  Maybe not now, but soon enough...

I wouldn't bet on it.  Here in California, the governor has the authority
to veto any parole-release decision.

So no prisoner will get out unless the governor decides he or she is
willing to take the political heat for it.
-- 


Support bumperstickers.  Simple solutions to complex problems.
From: Joseph.V.Kelly.Jr@dartmouth.edu (Joseph V. Kelly Jr)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
Subject: Aphrodisiacs (Was Re: question:)
Date: 1 Jan 93 21:58:53 GMT
 <1hv16sINN3v5@rave.larc.nasa.gov>  <jah.725821957@mits>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0b1@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <jah.725821957@mits>
jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen) writes:

>    At least the dried female flowers of Cannabis sativa L. are reported to be
> very effective when smoked.

Except in the long term. Excessive use (eg: smoking a joint 3 or more
days a week, for 1 or more years) results in a lower sperm count in
males (which some may regard as a benefit -- but to quote the Meaning
of Life ... ummm), not to mention the gradual inhibition of the sex
drive (and most other drives) classified as "amotivational syndrome"
aka the longterm stoopids.

taken from a citation of a citation from some AMA study (recent... oooh
1988!)

demolition.joe@dartmouth.edu
From: hjel@ellis.uchicago.edu (Death-PartyCentral)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
Subject: Re: Aphrodisiacs (Was Re: question:)
Date: 2 Jan 93 21:01:27 GMT
Reply-To: hjel@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago

In article <1993Jan1.215853.9865@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Joseph.V.Kelly.Jr@dartmouth.edu (Joseph V. Kelly Jr) writes:
>In article <jah.725821957@mits>
>jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen) writes:
>
>>    At least the dried female flowers of Cannabis sativa L. are reported to be
>> very effective when smoked.
>
>Except in the long term. Excessive use (eg: smoking a joint 3 or more
>days a week, for 1 or more years) results in a lower sperm count in
>males (which some may regard as a benefit -- but to quote the Meaning
>of Life ... ummm), not to mention the gradual inhibition of the sex
>drive (and most other drives) classified as "amotivational syndrome"
>aka the longterm stoopids.
>
>taken from a citation of a citation from some AMA study (recent... oooh
>1988!)
>
>demolition.joe@dartmouth.edu


	i've heard all the stories how THC causes antimotivational syndrome
and how it decreases sex drive in males...but it sure hasn't decreased mine.
hasn't decreased any of my fellow smokers either, so who knows.
					-jh
-- 
hjel@ellis.uchicago.edu        aka  Death Cmeptb jefe jefito
"...just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after you...."
Disclaimer: the devil made me do it.               -Nirvana
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From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: Archaic Revival -- by Terence McKenna
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 02:40:40 GMT

In article <1992Dec26.231619.5581@netcom.com> mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S.
Morris) writes:
>I have recently read the above named book. I found parts
>of it interesting. His (Terence's) opinion appears to be
>more reasonable than Tim Leary's, so he hasn't gained
>the same noteriety, but he does have some interesting theories,
>including that the one of the reasons that we seem to display
>more consciousness than the apes is that we found and used
>psychoactive mushrooms and possibly other psychoactive 
>plants. This fostered increased intellegence.
>
>Comments?
>
>
>--
>Mary E. S. Morris    |  The future exists first in imagination, then
>mesm@netcom.COM      |  in will, then in reality. -- Galivan Burwell
>=====================================================================
>Netcom - Online Communication Services San Jose, CA


 So then I suppose, following this logic, that the reindeer that eat Fly
Agarics are enlightened as well? I've heard stories (not validated...)
that deer will stampede a man pissing in the woods because they know that
the urine will most likely contain muscimol (well theyt probably don't
know that it's muscimol...) that will intoxicate them. ANy comments from
Siberians out there on the net would be greatly appreciated... :-)

St. Anthony

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          / N \   O                   Mi vsi smo krizhani,
         |   \ |  || Ph               chlani izbrani
         |   | |_O-C-C-OH             mesarskega ceha...
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From: bprofane@netcom.com (Gert Niewahr)
Subject: Re: Leary, Manson, Kleps and other questions...
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 07:56:32 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.050511.25960@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:

> I think his charge was actually conspiracy to commit murder, still a big
>one though... I also thought he was in a meximum security mental ward...
>I saw a spread on him in Time or Life. He pretty much gets what he wants
>where he is, except out... He gets solitude, which I would think is a
>blessing for any lifer...

No, Charlie is *not* in a mental ward: the state of California does
not consider him to be insane.  He has never been declared insane
or certified a public danger because of psychotic instability.
Further, it's pretty much a given that within the next 5-10 years
the parole board will run out of reasons not to release him (his
"life" sentence is a soft/evaluative one).  Lastly, the state would
have a hell of a time getting him declared criminally insane after
maintaining for 20+ years that he *isn't* insane, so they'd have no
constitutional grounds to hold him.

Charlie's getting out, folks.  Maybe not now, but soon enough...
From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
Subject: Re: question:
Date: 31 Dec 1992 14:47:56 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
NNTP-Posting-Host: grissom.larc.nasa.gov

In article <1992Dec30.234911.9638@wam.umd.edu> cyberpun@wam.umd.edu (Digital Druid) writes:
>  I think this question belongs on alt.psychoactives, plus I am just 
>curious.  Is there such a thing as a medically proven aphrodesiac?

I always find that flowers work well.
--scott
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From: mjharris@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Harris)
Subject: Re: Leary, Manson, Kleps and other questions...
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 17:39:55 GMT

aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri) writes:

>>In responding to this; if your only info source is Helter Skelter (the
>>book, not the movie)

>There's a book and movie?  I thought it was just a Motley Crue song 8^)
>-- 

>======================================================================8--<

Beatles damn it! You young guys.... When I was your age I used to walk to
school every day with no soles on my shoes. If we wanted a radio we
*built* one from old scraps lying about the house (well actually not a
house, just a corridor really). And we *liked* it. (-:


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From: mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris)
Subject: Archaic Revival -- by Terence McKenna
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 23:16:19 GMT

I have recently read the above named book. I found parts
of it interesting. His (Terence's) opinion appears to be
more reasonable than Tim Leary's, so he hasn't gained
the same noteriety, but he does have some interesting theories,
including that the one of the reasons that we seem to display
more consciousness than the apes is that we found and used
psychoactive mushrooms and possibly other psychoactive 
plants. This fostered increased intellegence.

Comments?


--
Mary E. S. Morris    |  The future exists first in imagination, then
mesm@netcom.COM      |  in will, then in reality. -- Galivan Burwell
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From: maxwell@deep-13.gizmo.com
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives,alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Leary, Manson, Kleps and other questions...
Date: 21 Dec 92 07:45:05 GMT
Organization: Gizmonics Institute Inc.
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NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <72111@cup.portal.com>, hkhenson@cup.portal.com (H Keith Henson) writes:
> Just FYI on this thread, two weeks ago I was at a party at Tim's house.
> Good party, was the annual party for a cryonics group, and, yeah, Tim
> is signed up.  Keith Henson
> PS, cryonics is certainly an example of life being stranger than t.b

PARTY-ON DuDEz!!

Seriously--I'm trying to teach the unwashed savages the benefits of owning a
portable/laptop/notebook/*NEWTON*!!!

drinking-guiness-stout-in-my-kitchen.max
mmonningh@igc.org
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: Pemoline, any generics or options?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 02:35:35 GMT

In article <8911@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> afj@anes.ucla.edu writes:
>I recently got an inquiry from a sufferer of mild narcolepsy about
>the drug Pemoline. It seems the stuff is mighty expensive, coming to abo
t
>$100 or so a month. She was wondering if there were any generics, or sim
lar
>acting agents (amphetamine like without amphetamine structure) available
>for narcolepsy. I haven't been able to find anything really for narcolep
y
>except maybe mazindol, and fencamfamin (which is not available in the US
.
>Any ideas about prescription drugs in the US or Mexico?
>Thanks,
>A.J.
>
>-- 
>
>
>-Andy Jacobson  <andyj@phoebe.loni.ucla.edu>


 I can't figure out wht pemoline should be so expensive. It's synthesis is
rather simple: refluxing guanidine and ethylmandelate in anhydrous ethanol.
Of course I suppose the pharmaceutical industries pricing methods is
anything but straightforward...

St. Anthony

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         |   \ |  || Ph               chlani izbrani
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BZ        \ / /      Ph                            aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu
From: sbrackstone@admin1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
Subject: Re: question:
Date: 31 Dec 92 10:08:13 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1hv16sINN3v5@rave.larc.nasa.gov>, kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey) writes:
> In article <1992Dec30.234911.9638@wam.umd.edu> cyberpun@wam.umd.edu (Digital Druid) writes:
>>  I think this question belongs on alt.psychoactives, plus I am just 
>>curious.  Is there such a thing as a medically proven aphrodesiac?
> 
> I always find that flowers work well.
> --scott

I believe the actual scientific answer is no, but it has been said,

"Candy is dandy,
but Liquor is Quicker".

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From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: Leary, Manson, Kleps and other questions...
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 02:45:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.075632.19549@netcom.com> bprofane@netcom.com (Gert 
iewahr) writes:
>In article <1992Dec18.050511.25960@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> aankrom@nyx.cs.d
.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:
>
>> I think his charge was actually conspiracy to commit murder, still a b
g
>>one though... I also thought he was in a meximum security mental ward..

>>I saw a spread on him in Time or Life. He pretty much gets what he want

>>where he is, except out... He gets solitude, which I would think is a
>>blessing for any lifer...
>
>No, Charlie is *not* in a mental ward: the state of California does
>not consider him to be insane.  He has never been declared insane
>or certified a public danger because of psychotic instability.
>Further, it's pretty much a given that within the next 5-10 years
>the parole board will run out of reasons not to release him (his
>"life" sentence is a soft/evaluative one).  Lastly, the state would
>have a hell of a time getting him declared criminally insane after
>maintaining for 20+ years that he *isn't* insane, so they'd have no
>constitutional grounds to hold him.
>
>Charlie's getting out, folks.  Maybe not now, but soon enough...


Get out the good china...

St. Anthony

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         |   \ |  || Ph               chlani izbrani
         |   | |_O-C-C-OH             mesarskega ceha...
BZ        \ / /      Ph                            aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu
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From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives,alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Leary, Manson, Kleps and other questions...
Summary: It's a joke, folks.
Date: 29 Dec 92 19:47:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ

>In responding to this; if your only info source is Helter Skelter (the
>book, not the movie)

There's a book and movie?  I thought it was just a Motley Crue song 8^)
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