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From: j_isler@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Filipino morals (Good Business in RP)
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:25:54 +0800
Organization: University of Western Australia
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> 
> Sad but true.  I went home this summer and found out that most of the
> software they use over there are pirated.  People don't even feel guilty
> about it.  They just don't see anything wrong with it.  I mean that's just
> as bad as robbing a company!  Filipino morals have definitely gone down the
> drain.
> 
> Edsel
> --

Sad but true. For that matter I think most Filipino in Manila don't 
feel guilty at all on most other things as well. Pissing in public, 
and spitting in public were just few of my observation. 
That's just like messing up own's living room.

Joey
From: b35@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Vic Ilag)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Airport Shuttle from Syracuse to Ithaca
Date: 16 Dec 92 02:26:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University


	I need information regarding any shuttle services from
Syracuse airport to Ithaca. I plan to fly into Syracuse on the
31st of December 6:30 pm. Please email me at b35@mace.cc.purdue.edu.

	Thanks in advance.
vic
From: GE.TEG@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tito E. Gervacio)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: From Pinoy/Pinay to Spain to To Timewarp
Date: 13 Dec 1992 21:12:26 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
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>From: gustilo@pop-server.upenn.edu
>Subject: Re: Am I In the Right NG?
>
>In article <1gdrtgINN6op@morrow.stanford.edu>, GE.TEG@forsythe.stanford.edu
>(Tito E. Gervacio) wrote:
>
>> Yes, Spain is the motherland.  I hope you are not oblivious to
>> history that the 500-year rule of Spain did not do anything to
>                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> the Filipino culture, both good and bad.
>
>correct me if I am wrong but  Ferdinanad  Magellan  died  in
>1521. Was there contact with Spanish colonists prior to this
>year?  If  Magellan  was  the  first  Spanish contact of the
>Philippines, that means we are still a Spanish colony  until
>the year 2050.
>
>Gee, didn't the Americans just  leave  Subic.  I  guess  the
>Spanish-American war never took place.
>

   Good grief, we are still under Spanish influence, and you
   might be right..  The Spanish-American war might have not
   taken place.

   Nice catch.  My math on historical era just left the window.
   Geez, I must have really hit some chords out there.  Let me
   try this.. if we are truly adamant on not having to do with
   those 'sins' of our colonizers, how about looking closer on
   our names.  Should they be changed to get rid of this hang up?
   Sounds silly, but some answers to the broader issue border on
   simplistic fanaticism.

   Have a good debate out there on nationalism.

>> Can't close our eyes to this, can we?
>>
>> Just like Great Britain being the motherland of the United
>> States.
>>
>> Or should have I construed instead to the Fatherland.
>>
>> One way or another, I am in the right newsgroup.
>>
>> And thank you,
>>
>> TEG
>
>
>Standard Disclaimer:
>  I am not responsible for comments that I make after 3:00 AM or after five
>cups of coffee, whichever comes first.
From: grtorlba@sumax.seattleu.edu (George Torralba)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Good business in RP?
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:42:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: sumax.6074
Organization: Seattle University

In article <BywMKK.M4F@cs.uiuc.edu> gervasio@cs.uiuc.edu (Melinda Gervasio) writes:
>
>Unfortunately, the piracy problem is also driving away a lot of potential 
>investors from the computer industry.
>
>Pyke

I'm not quite sure if I read the same article as you did but it sounds 
similar.  Anyway, I don't quite understand why piracy would discourage
investors from the computer industry away from the Phil.?  The person quoted
in the article said something to the effect of ~"there's no sense/incentive
in investing $xxx million dollars in the Phil. to set up shop if people
are just going to pirate software in the Phil.."   What exactly was his
logic in that statement?

George

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Subject: Re: 40 Killed in Zamboanga
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:45:28 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	ZAMBOANGA, Philippines (UPI) -- Police Tuesday blamed a prolonged
power brownout for erroneously reporting that 40 people were killed in
an attack by Muslim bandits in the southern Philippines.
	Regional police chief of staff Gamuranao Dimalapang said only seven
people were confirmed dead in the raid over the weekend on three
villages in Zamboanga del Sur province, 500 miles south of Manila.
	He said a brownout had made it difficult for the regional command
based in Zamboanga City to verify the reports. He said the initial death
toll was based on accounts by local residents.
	Brownouts have plagued wide areas of the country for months because
of decrepit and poorly maintained power plants.
	``It was really very hard to get in touch with our detachment because
of the long power brownout,'' Dimalapang told reporters. ``We could have
verified the initial report if not for this problem.''
	Survivors said the assailants, believed to be renegade Muslim
separatist rebels who have turned to banditry, swooped down on their
village and asked them for money.
	When the villagers complained, they were lined up in a makeshift
basketball court and cut down with gunfire or hacked to death, the
survivors said.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: albert@mathlab.sunysb.edu (Jose Ramon Albert)
Subject: on "race"
Organization: SUNY at Stony Brook, Dept. of Math
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:25:38 GMT

keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard) writes

>In article <1992Dec10.143146.1344@sbcs.sunysb.edu> albert@xi.mathlab.sunysb.edu 
>(Jose Ramon Albert) writes:
>>Theorem : If all Filipinos had this kind of attitude, then 
>>the extinction of the Filipino race will happen with probability one.
>                                ^^^^
>I must correct Jose on his use of this term "race" regarding the
>Filipino people.  Filipinos are not a "race" of people.  

thank you for the information on my improper use of terms.  my use of the
term "race" was supposed to take a loose meaning (a people) rather than
its anthropoligical denotation---my mistake. i apologize for my
ignorance, i "sit" corrected and i wholeheartedly
welcome the criticism.   


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From: markh@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Mark Holladay)
Subject: question
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:32:21 GMT


Hello,

	Can anyone out there answer a question for me?

Who runs the electric power company in the Philippines?


respond to;  markh@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu

thanks in advance...
	Mark...
From: lemopr@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: PHILIPPINE TENNIS FEDERATION
Date: 11 Dec 92 15:13:48 EST
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

COULD SOMEONE OUT THERE KIND ENOUGH TO PROVIDE ME THE ADDRESS AND THE PERSON
IN CHARGE OF THE PHILIPPINE TENNIS FEDERATION. MY DAUGHTER IS ONE OF THE TOP
JUNIOR PLAYER IN FLORIDA AND SHE WOULD LIKE TO REPRESENT THE PHILIPPINES NEXT
YEAR'S JR. ORANGE BOWL INTERNATIONAL TOURNAMENT AND SHE NEEDS THE ENDORSEMENT 
OF THE FEDERATION. PLEASE EMAIL YOUR RESPONSE.  THANK YOU AND MERRY CHRISTMAS
AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU.
.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: CMIS27@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Roda Farrell)
Subject: Trece Martires
Organization: Motorola
Date: 18 Dec 1992 09:42:22 CST

Does anyone know the names of the Trece Martires?  Why exactly did
they martyred?


Thanks,
Roda
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: ekevik@media.uio.no (Oystein Ekevik)
Subject: Re: Am I In the Right NG?
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: Dept. of Media & Communication
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:27:23 GMT

In article <gustilo-131292115006@ts6-5.upenn.edu>,
gustilo@pop-server.upenn.edu wrote:

> correct me if I am wrong but Ferdinanad Magellan died in 1521. Was there
> contact with Spanish colonists prior to this year? If Magellan was the
> first Spanish contact of the Philippines, that means we are still a Spanish
> colony until the year 2050.
> 
According to Renato Constantino's description of the Filipiono colonial
mentality, The Philippines still are a Spanish colony, and will be far
beyond year 2050.

I always thought Magellan was a Portuguese? 


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Dept. of Media & Communication
University of OSLO, Norway
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From: jayc@paragon.EBay.Sun.COM (John C)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Filipino KKKs??
Date: 18 Dec 1992 05:40:50 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
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The subject probably put a lot of people with a puzzled look ... huh!

( Kataastaasan Kagalanggalangan Katipunang Anak Ng Bayan) Whewww..!!

I had a tough time typing away would you believe it?
Just to share an info. I found on one of the newsgroups I subscribe
with. I find it interesting being brought-up on the topic.

John Cabuco


In article 2Ir@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu, callison@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (James P. Callison) writes:
>In article <1992Dec7.173437.18595@CERIS.Purdue.EDU> jheath@fieldofdreams.npirs.purdue.edu (Jim Heath) writes:
>##From article <Bytpyx.DI7@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>, by callison@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (James P. Callison):
>## Actually, the switch to the .45 ACP was to STOP, not to kill. The design
>## came out of the battles against the Filipino "rebels" after the
>## Spanish-American War (as I recall; I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm
>## wrong :-); they would die, sure enough, but not until they had
>## killed a few soldiers (who had shot them with large caliber rifles).
>#
>#I believe it is true that the .45 _Long Colt_ SAA was brought back from
>#retirement for use in the Philipines because the .38 Colt(?) wasn't
>#getting the job done.  However, I have seen articles which contended that
>#the rifle of the period (.30-40 Kraig?) also didn't always work either.  I
>#suspect there was a fair amount of failure to hit the center of mass going
>#on here ;-{).
>
>Actually, as I remember from history class, the Filipino "rebels" got
>smashed on the local Drug-of-Choice(tm), bound their bodies tightly
>to keep their blood pressure up, and ran through the bullets.
>
>#The .45 acp was developed because of the Philipines experience, but I
>#don't think it made it was issued to the Army in time to be used there.
>
>Well, since the Filipino "rebellion" lasted from 1898 to 1901, and
>John Browning didn't adapt his .38ACP pistol to .45ACP until 1902,
>I don't think so... :-) Like I said, the _design_ of the .45ACP came
>out of the Filipino rebellion, not the Colt .45 itself; i.e., the
>rebellion was the impetus for the design.
>
>				James
>
>James P. Callison       Microcomputer Coordinator        OU Law Library 
>Callison@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu   /\    Callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu
>	constellation!biglaw!callison@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu
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>	Your self esteem is enhanced by remaining an ignoramus?
>	Please! Let's call it "informationally impaired."
>		--Hobbes and Calvin, "Calvin and Hobbes"
From: gustilo@pop-server.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Am I In the Right NG?
Date: 13 Dec 92 16:57:13 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1gdrtgINN6op@morrow.stanford.edu>, GE.TEG@forsythe.stanford.edu
(Tito E. Gervacio) wrote:

> Yes, Spain is the motherland.  I hope you are not oblivious to
> history that the 500-year rule of Spain did not do anything to
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> the Filipino culture, both good and bad.

correct me if I am wrong but Ferdinanad Magellan died in 1521. Was there
contact with Spanish colonists prior to this year? If Magellan was the
first Spanish contact of the Philippines, that means we are still a Spanish
colony until the year 2050.

Gee, didn't the Americans just leave Subic. I guess the Spanish-American
war never took place.

> Can't close our eyes to this, can we?
> 
> Just like Great Britain being the motherland of the United
> States.
> 
> Or should have I construed instead to the Fatherland.
> 
> One way or another, I am in the right newsgroup.
> 
> And thank you,
> 
> TEG


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  I am not responsible for comments that I make after 3:00 AM or after five
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Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 16:48:48 EST
From: Juan T. Avecilla <JA6769A@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: What is your "Race" ?
Distribution: world

If I am not mistaken, doesn't nationality refer more to citizenship than where
you are actually from? This has always been my perception of the word. No, yes,
maybe?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: adap@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Edsel Adap)
Subject: Re: What is your "Race" ?
Organization: Andrews University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:30:04 GMT

In article <1gdlelINN3bh@agate.berkeley.edu> tito@ocf.berkeley.edu (Tito Domine) writes:
[lots of stuff deleted about races...]
>	So, if people ask me, what is your ethnic group - I say, my
>father was Ilokano and my mother was Mangyan (or from Mindanao). 
                                      ^^^^^^^^    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I thought Mangyan's were from Mindoro and Moro's were from Mindanao.  Is it
true that there are Mangyans in Mindanao.  As far as I know Mangyans are
the native people found in Mindoro.

>I, myself, am Tagalog. (here I am clarifying my cultural roots.)
>
>What is your nationality ? I am Filipino. 
>
>	What is your race ?
>
>	I am ... human.
>
>
>Tito

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: USAID Recommends Peso Devaluation
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:32:28 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	MANILA, Philippines (UPI) -- The government should devalue the
Philippine peso to make its exports more competitive with those of other
Asian countries, the U.S. Agency for International Development said in a
study released Friday.
	``The peso has become over-valued, acting as as a serious drag on
exports and detracting from efforts to adopt an export-led growth model,
'' the study said.
	The study, which compared the Philippines with its neighbors in a
span of three decades, showed that a strong peso led to lower export
earnings.
	Noting that export-led growth has been one of the most successful
formulas employed by other Asian countries to achieve economic
prosperity, USAID suggested it was time Manila boosted its exports
through a competitive exchange rate.
	``The exchange rate needs adjustment. The recent past has provided
several timely occasions for a real peso depreciation,'' it said.
	Since the Central Bank lifted all restrictions on foreign exchange
transactions last September, the peso has gained against the U.S. dollar
to the detriment of exporters.
	To stave off massive shutdowns, the Central Bank was forced to
intervene to stabilize the local currency at between 24 to 25 pesos to
the greenback.
	Exporters have asked the government to peg the exchange rate at 30
pesos to the dollar but the Central Bank said it was allowing the peso
to reach its own level based on market forces.
From: tito@ocf.berkeley.edu (Tito Domine)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Mga Bagong Katagang Gamit Ng Durugista
Date: 20 Dec 1992 03:28:50 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

	Ayon sa huling isyu ng Manila Mail dito sa Bay Area,
'eto raw ang mga bagong katagang ginagamit ng mga durugista
sa Maynila.

dyuts - damo, marijuana ;
hero, Bruce - heroin ;
sharon, chase ubas, ice, toots, batak, deck, dragon - shabu
smile, kilay, sleeper, ampi - mogadon ;
vbs, vidies - valium ;
ekis-pinoy - rivotril ;
bubbles - ativan ;
bernard, ben, benjamin - benadryl ;
dolphy, vandolph - phydol ;
tamang kati - allergic reaction sa paggamit ng shabu.

	Nakakatawag-pansin ang mga bagong salita na ito. Marahil
ang isang dahilan sa paglikha sa mga bagong kataga ay ang
pag-iwas sa pagmamamanman ng may mga kapangyarihan.

	Ang mga bakla rin sa 'pinas ay may sariling mga salitang
ginagamit para makipagusap sa isa't isa. Pero ang dahilan naman
dito ay ang pag-iwas sa pagtukso o pag-aalipusta ng ibang tao.

Tito


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From: sobejana@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Regina Sobejana)
Subject: Re: Yuletide Dialect Translations
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:44:23 GMT
Organization: Butt Skiing Tournament 
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Andy Means (andym@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM) wrote:
:   Philippines has hundreds of dialects.  I'd like to see anyone of us
:   write/speak "Merry Christmas and Happy New Year" in their native
:   dialect.  I'm Visayan but grew up in Cavite City.  Therefore some
:   part of the town speak "Chabacano" which is really some form of
:   Spanish language.  Since I neither speak Visayan or Chabacano, can
:   anybody translate.

We'll I understand Ilocano but can't speak it.  But let me give it a try:

Tagalog:        Maligayang Pasko at Manigong Bagong Taon Sa Inyong Lahat
Ilocano:        Naragsac a Pascua ken Naimbag a Tawen Yo Amin

err... i think i got that right (corrections welcome)

Well,  Merry Christmas and have a Happy & Prosperous  New Year To All.


Cheers,
Ginnie
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From: c150-fg@po.berkeley.edu (Francis Mendoza)
Subject: Re: Pinay/Pinoy Follow-up
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:17:39 GMT

Kumust na kayong lahat.

Gusto ko lang tanungin sa mga kababayang
PRO-INTERRACIAL MARRIAGES itong mga tanong na susunod:

1.  Ano ang magiging religion nang mga bata kuong hindi pareho and
    religion nang babae at lalake?

2.  Tatawagan ba nang Non-Pinoy Spouse (NPS) and mga in-laws by their
    first names? or will NPS manifest a sign of respect by calling
    them the proper Filipino terms?

3.  Pagka mayroon ka nang anak, tuturuin mo ba siya nang Tagalog,
    Pangasinan, etc.?


FJ Mendoza
U.C. Berkeley Undergrad
Computer Science / Ethnic Studies

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From: grtorlba@sumax.seattleu.edu (George Torralba)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: continue from previous
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:47:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: sumax.6075
Organization: Seattle University

In article <1992Dec7.192156.15382@Arco.COM> dbgrvv@arco.com (Rosana VanDerGrinten) writes:
>
>I guess it depends on what part of the world you are in - whichever
>"Asian" country is popular there (places that particular country have
>ruled before or "Asian" places they have dealt with more).
>


So true.  In fact, Andy Bumatay (sp?), a native Hawaiin stand-up comedian,
says as part of his act; "When I'm in the West, I'm a Mexican,  over in the
East, I'm a Puerto Rican." [laugh from audience] :->

George


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