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From: hudson@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Hudson Leighton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Through-the-glass antennas
Date: 25 Jan 93 00:05:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: orbit.8936
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

I have two glass mount antennas on the back window of my rice burner pick-up.

A larson 2/70 and a Antenna Specialest 1/2 wave 2 meter cellphone lookalike
(for the scanner).

They have both been on the truck for about six months with no problems.

I did notice that it took alot of pressure for the mounting tape to make
contact over a majority of the surface, I put the antenna side on first and
as I put it on got about 15-20% contact I pushed and wiggled until I got
abou 80% contact.

Side Notes:

I got the 2/70 mounted just to high and it "tings" on the grarge door every
time ;-(

Its not as good as the 2 (2 meter/70cm) 5/8s mag mounted on the roof 
(aw darn have to go to 50 watts when I am more than 30 miles from the
repeater)


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INET: hudson@pnet51.orb.mn.org
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Kirk.Smith@launchpad.unc.edu (Kirk Smith)
Subject: Re: Larsen "kulduckie" w/ HT - is it worth it?
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:09:14 GMT

[info on Diamond RH-77B sucking deleted]

Your mileage may vary..  I've got an Icom dual band antenna (same
one supplied w/W2A) and while it works well, it doesn't even come
close to the Diamond.  Maybe you were in a strong signal area
and had desense problems with the Diamond antenna installed.

-ks
KD6RCT

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From: jason@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Jason Hanson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ham on Rescue 911
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:59:03 GMT
Reply-To: jason@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Jason Hanson)
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
NNTP-Posting-Host: studsys.mscs.mu.edu
Originator: jason@studsys.mscs.mu.edu

Did anyone see the ham from G-land on tonight's episode of Rescue 911?  They
showed him using CW and also showed a wall of QSL cards.
-- 
Jason Hanson         |   915 W. Wisconsin Ave #1010   |     (414) 288-2179
Marquette University |   Milwaukee, WI 53233-2373     |     Ham Radio: N9LEA/AA
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Xref: sparky rec.radio.amateur.misc:23185 sci.electronics:23338
From: albert@sc.hp.com (Albert Alcorn)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Avantek distributors
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics
Date: 25 Jan 1993 18:52:52 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Semiconductor Systems Center
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpussscc.sc.hp.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.1 PL7]

Rob Ballantyne (ballanty@cs.sfu.ca) wrote:
: 
:   Please help!
: 
:   I can't seem to find the local (or any for that matter) supplier of
: Avantek parts.  Could someone please send me the addresses of the 
: Canadian (preferably west-coast, if they have one) supplier of Avantek
: parts.

Call your local Hewlett Packard sales office.


Albert Alcorn
Hewlett Packard
Semiconductor Systems Center
Digital IC Test products
(408) 553-7482
albert@sc.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: root@june.cmp.rpi.edu (J.R. Ordon)
Subject: Collins Radio info
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 20:21:26 GMT

I've got a question for any of the Collins Radio
experts out there...

What are the differences between the KWM-2 and KWM-2A tranceivers??

I'm wondering if they changed the way the rig generated CW in the 2A.

The original KWM-2 generated CW by injecting an audio tone on a SSB signal,
this created a weak Satellite signal on the other sideband. The 32S1 
generated CW the same way, but they fixed it in the 32S3..

Any comments would be appreciated.

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J.R. Ordon

WV2N
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Subject: Re: Through-the-glass antennas
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 03:23:05 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.

gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes:

>While I generally consider on glass antennas deficient performers at
>VHF, *anything* is better than a rubber dummy load used inside a metal
>car. You *can* make them stick for at least a few months. The glue
>process is the same as that used to attach rear view mirrors. 

[...]

>Note that in hot climates it's not unusual to come back to your
>sealed car in a parking lot and find the rear view mirror lying
>on the floorboards. This glue process is not foolproof even when
>done by factory techs. It's just another of the miseries associated
>with reluctance to drill holes.

The cyanoacrylic glue (superglue) process was abandoned shortly after Avanti 
sold out in, oh, 1985 or so.  The process used since then is RTV based 
(similar to silicone bathroom caulk.)  Not only does this process hold the 
foot more securely, it is flexible enough that the glass is under no stress.

I lost one antenna/foot to the superglue process early on (foot fell in
the pickup truck bed) but since the RTV-based attachment method has 
been available, I have had no problems.  In fact the only problem I've
had was in removing the foot from my BMW in preparation for sale.
The stuff really sticks.

The only problems I've ever had was with the orignal matchbox mount that
mounted with double-sided foam tape.  This tape changes dimentions with
temperature and detunes the box.  Attaching the box with RTV cures
that problem.

John
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Endurance
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:54:52 GMT

In article <1k1j57INN3co@emx.cc.utexas.edu> oo7@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Q. Burpington-Smythe) writes:
>K1MER says:
>
>>>If you like exciting, adventurous story-telling....that combines the best
>>>elements of sci-fi with our beloved radio hobby....you absolutely MUST read
>>>"ENDURANCE"......I rate it **** !!!!
>
>Are contrary opinions allowed?  I thought it was a load of old rubbish :-)
>The only reason for calling it Endurance is that this is what it takes on
>the part of the reader to finish the thing.   People must like these QST
>stories, they publish them so often, but I find them a real waste of paper.

I thought the connection to amateur radio was thin. The writing was of 
good quality, but I wondered as I read it if it's 4 pages couldn't have 
been put to a better use carrying an article like N6NWP presented in the 
same issue. That's the sort of thing I expected of _Ham Radio_ (sniff) 
and want to see more of in QST. 

Gary
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
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Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     | 
From: donrm@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Don Montgomery)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:07:23 GMT
Subject: Re: I PASSED!!! (was Format of Code Exams?)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, jahern@geohub.gcn.uoknor.edu (Jud Ahern) writes:
 
			       [...]
>     tricky, like: His QTH was Mississipi (T/F?) Answer: False, it was
>     Mississippi).  I got all 10 right, but the 10th was a lucky guess.

Geez, are the exam architects still doing stupid stuff like this?  If
they're looking for exact spelling, why don't they give the code test
in five-letter groups like they used to do in the military practice ses-
sions?

I was amazed when I took my last FCC exam -- I should've brought along a
Philadelphia Corporation Lawyer to aid deciphering the double negatives,
trick questions,  etc...

Don Montgomery K6LTS
donrm@sr.hp.com
From: cummings@stein.u.washington.edu (Michael Cummings)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Real NoCodes
Date: 23 Jan 1993 09:03:14 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

In <kd1hz.1@anomaly.sbs.com> kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.com (Michael P. Deignan) writes:

>     1. Real nocodes overuse Q signals on phone. QSL?

	So do a LOT of Generals, Advanced, and Extras.

>     2. Real nocodes use a repeater when in a grocerystore talking
>        to their Good Buddy two aisles over. EMP from overhead
>	flourescent lights makes simplex communication impossible.

>     3. Real nocodes would feel more comfortable if their 2 meter
>     	mobile radio only had 40 channels.

	Below you say that this has happened.  What does that mean?

>     5. Real nocodes are in a perpetual state of "studying the code".

>     Corollary: Real nocodes have boxes of accumulated Element 3B CSCEs.

	Hmmm.  Could their acting defensive for their license class have
anything to do with the snooty attitude of "Code" hams?

[more stuff deleted]

>And yes... Every one of these actually happened.

	Lots of hams do dumb stuff.  So what?  If they're lousy operators,
they're lids.  Since all kinds of hams have shown themselves capable of
beings lids, there's no point in singling anyone out.  Why persist in being
snotty to "No-Code" Techs?


-- 
Michael Cummings  NX7E	
cummings@u.washington.edu
"To be hit by Moriyama's fastball is an honor exceeded only by being
crushed under the wheels of the Imperial carriage." - _You Gotta Have Wa_
From: root@jackatak.raider.NET (Jack GF Hill - Sysop [HOME])
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Through-the-glass antennas
Date: 27 Jan 93 05:08:32 GMT
Organization: ucsd usenet gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

<In Info-Hams V93 #115...Jerry Gardner asks:>

>Does anyone know what affect, if any, rear window defroster wires have on
>through-the-glass antennas?
Yep. Bad. They even mess up a Cell Phone. And, I learned today, that the 
cell tower sends a blank-and-burst which throttles back the cellphone in 
your car/hand when it hits the tower too hard (and conversely will "heat 
it up" just a bit when needed...) Tech guy says he has seen several 
cellphones hot-rodded to 7 watts or so, and in close proximaty to the 
cell tower...they don't work for diddly...most blank-and-burst back to 
less than 1 watt anyway... ;^)  so much for QRO phones!

73
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: mac20@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Michael A Cecere)
Subject: Kenwood TH78 HT quality ?
Reply-To: mac20@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Michael A Cecere)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:08:03 GMT

I'd pretty familiar with the Yaesu FT-470, and the alinco DJ-580

but what about the Kenwood TH78? how well does it compare with this units?

 how about intermod? etc..etc...

I'm thinking of buying one in the near future and would like any advice
available.

Thanks and 3's
Mike WB2ZLW

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: miltf@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Milt Forsberg)
Subject: Re: Burglars are brighter than you might think!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:10:14 GMT

swirsky@adobe.com (Robert Swirsky) writes:

>>In article <1993Jan27.184350.5273@linus.mitre.org> m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White) writes:
>>>Fred Lloyd  writes:
>>>>>  Beware of the Eavesdroppers...
>>>>  I make it a personal practice NEVER to discuss vacation plans over the air
>>>>  I don't even like to mention the fact that my wife is in the car with me >
>>>>  (meaning that the house is empty
>>>
>I think you guys are being silly! There are many ways a person can determine
>if a house is occupied, without listening for hams on the radio.

>While it's probably not a good idea to discuss your vacation plans on the
>radio, there is absolutely no evidence to link the information 
>revealed in the QSO with the break-in.


One of the reasons the State of Illinois stopped giving car license           
registration information to anyone who called a police station is that in the
Chicago area, burglers were sitting on bridges over interstates noting the
license plates of obviously loaded autos heading out of town.  They would then
call the police and pretend to have some reason to contact that person (like
that person's car was bumped in a parking lot, etc.).  The burglers would then
go to the home and carry off whatever they wanted.  I am sure there are other
reasons of privacy which also added to the change of policy, but this does 
show that some burglers are intelligent enough to locate homes of those on 
vacation.  

Add to the list of places to not discuss travel plans:  cellular phones!  There
are many scanners capable of monitoring the cellular band.  It is more difficult to get information here because the person monitoring doew not have any way
to track the caller unless names and/or addresses are given during the call.

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: mitch@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Mitch Veenstra)
Subject: ham software for Apple IIe?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:46:47 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

Slowly getting my stuff together for my first station.  Not only am I going
to be borrowing a radio, I'm also thinking about using my wifes old Apple
IIe for a logbook.  Perhaps packet also.  Does anybody know of any Ham
software for the Apple II series of computers?  Logbooks progs? Packet Progs?
any kind of helpful program that a computer can do in a ham shack?

Thanks alot!
Mitcheal
KA5SOI
(novice, soon to be tech + and beyond!)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: mfj swr meter info wanted
From: fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie)
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:30:51 EST
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Distribution: world
Organization: NASA/Kennedy Space Center, Florida

In article <1jpedfINN95i@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>,
derry@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John Derry) wrote:
> Does anyone out there have any firsthand info about the MFJ 160-m through  
> 2-meter swr analyzer with digital freq readout?

Jack-

I recently tried to purchase one of the new MFJ-249 SWR analyzers from AES
in Orlando.  They tell me the analyzer has been on back order for several
months, and that there may have only been a few prototypes actually
produced.  They didn't know if there was some production problem, or what.

I have the old MFJ-207 HF non-digital analyzer, as well as the MFJ-208 VHF
analyzer.  They provide a direct SWR readout on an analog meter, with 1:1
at the left end of the scale, 2:1 at center scale and 3:1 at approximately
2/3 scale.  Although I have used a separate counter with them, I usually
just listen for the signal on my transceiver.  Having a built-in counter
would be a worthwhile improvement, since the frequency dials on the
analyzers are poorly calibrated.

I haven't made any laboratory measurements of their accuracy, but with a
known good Bird 50 ohm load, they each indicate exactly 1:1 swr.  I have
made comparisons using an experimental VHF antenna, using both the VHF
analyzer and the Bird Model 43 wattmeter.  Center frequency and SWR came
out relatively close between the two methods, but not exactly.  I do not
recall the specifics.

I used the HF analyzer to tune the Hustler resonators for my mobile
antenna.  I am very impressed with the ease of determining actual frequency
of minimum SWR.  I used the transceiver to determine frequency.  If you
have ever tried this with just an SWR bridge, and with resonators that were
way off frequency, you can appreciate the advantage the analyzer provides.

Another feature of the new analyzer compared with the older equipment, is
the continuous coverage.  The HF analyzer I have covers the Ham bands, but
not all frequencies between.  If someone wanted to use it to adjust an
antenna tuner for receiving foreign broadcasts on a shortwave receiver, the
old analyzer would be inadequate.  I also am interested in the six meter
ham band, which isn't covered by any of the older models I know of.

The price of the new MFJ-249 is $179.95 in the AES catalog.  This is less
than the total price I paid for the two that do not include a counter.  By
the way, the counter doesn't have to be accurate at all, for the intended
use.  It will just be a bonus if it is!

Although you don't want to hear any "MFJ Bashing", I feel there is some
room for that in many of their products.  On the other hand, the price you
pay is quite fair for what you get.  (If you don't think so, check out
prices for Bird meters and loads, et cetera!)  And so, the MFJ analyzers I
have aren't laboratory standard equipment, but they are functional.  I plan
to get the MFJ-249 as soon as it becomes available.

73, Fred, K4DII

fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov
From: jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham Radio Causes Cancer!
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:52:44 GMT
Reply-To: jreece@sousa.intel.com
Organization: Intel - Information Technologies

In article <14570596@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com>, alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom) writes:

> I'm all in favor of continued research into the health effects, if any,
> of E/M fields, but I feel that the sensationalistic media stories on the
> subject are way out of proportion to the probable dangers.  It's likely
> that there is no significant effect. 

So what else is new?  Health and safety scares seem to be 
society's replacement for 50's Red scares.

>  And even if there does turn out to
> be some effect, it's clear that it must be pretty small.  (Even those
> studies that do show an effect place it far below the dangers of, say, 
> cigarette smoking.)

Just like the recent stories about cellular phones causing brain cancer
ignored the far more likely danger of users walking or driving into an
accident while using them....

-- 
John Reece			"This lifeboat is full"	
Not an Intel spokesman
From: karayan@blitzen.cc.bellcore.com (karayannopoulos,george)
Subject: Re: CW Contests at Hamfests
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 19:18:15 GMT

In article <14570588@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com> alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom) writes:
>
>Years ago, I participated in an interresting CW contest at the Rochester (NY)
>hamfest.  They picked a nice slow speed (20 wpm), but gradually increased the
>noise level / reduced the signal level as the contest progressed.  
>The last person still copying correctly was to be the winner.
>
>I did OK until about 3 minutes before the end I finally gave up.  There were
>still about 3 guys madly scribbling when the test finally ended.  At that 
>point the umpire admitted that there had been no signal at all present for 
>the last 2 minutes of the test!
>
This reminds me of my state of mind after the end of a 2 hour LF beacon
hunting session, spent trying to dig longwave beacons out of heavy QRN:
I could swear I heard CW coming out of the humidifier working nearby!!!

73 de George, N2OWO
(I'm not showing off.  I can't copy 13wpm yet.  LF beacons are SLOW CW.)
___________________________________________________________________
George Karayannopoulos              N2OWO
karayan@cc.bellcore.com             Bellcore, Red Bank, NJ
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are mine and not my employer's.
From: cvm@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Computer power supplies and radios.
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:28:53 GMT
Organization: Northern Arizona University

I have seen several posts saying that it is easy to use a computer power supply
to power a radio.  I remember an old post talking about using the computer
supply to charge a deep cycle battery and power the radio, but I can't find it. 
Right now I am running my radio off a deep cycle battery and charging it with
an automotive charger as needed.  I would like to use the power supply to
charge the battery/power the radio.  How can I do this?

I have a 150 watt power supply, a group 27 deep cycle battery and a mobile two
meter radio (Alinco DR-110T).  I know the radio does not draw more that 15 amps
(the fuses are 15 amps) on high power, but don't know exactly how much it does
draw.  The power supply does not have any amperage ratings on it, but I am
afraid it would not supply enough current for high power transmitting.  The
power supply provides 5, 7 and 12 volts (approx) on the various connectors.  12
volts would probably be enough to run the radio but not charge the battery. 
Do I have to modify the power supply to get a high enough voltage to charge the
battery?  Also I need some overcharging protection.  Any help would be greatly
appreciated.

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Northern Arizona University -- Flagstaff, AZ    cvm@nauvax.bitnet
Phone: (602) 523-6495                           N7YIU
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Coax voltage - How to computer?
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:49:38 GMT

In article <C17KuI.2IB@ms.uky.edu> hgpeach@ms.uky.edu (Harold G. Peach, Jr.) writes:
>A recent posting regarding voltage on twin-lead prompted me to ask
>a question I have had for some length of time:  How do you compute
>the transmitted voltage on a coax, given the power?  You have
>the impedance of the coax to work with, but some ham friends have
>told me SQRT(RP) adjusted for RMS does not yield an accurate transmitted
>voltage or current.

This will only work if the VSWR on the line is 1:1, a rather rare occurance.

Gary

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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary      
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     | 
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