From: samir@tfs.com (Samir Elias)
Subject: Re: Saddam
Organization: TRW Financial Systems
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:44:34 GMT

In article <5034@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU> aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Shaqeeqa) writes:
>In article <nabeel.728066864@oracle.sce.carleton.ca> nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Bulbul) writes:
>>In <5021@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU> aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Shaqeeqa) writes:
>
>>" He was a spokesman, at least at the time (1990).  What exclusive
>>" knowledge do you have to support your statements, Nabeel?
>>
>>   I do not know whether he really was the spokesman at that time, but
>>I had a personal experience with him (I do not feel like opening my
>>personal files in public, so who trust me can take my word for it,)
>
>According to your last article you said:
>
>   Dr. Arabyyat (Dr. Carts) is not even the spokesman of the Brotherhood
> 			    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>in Jordan; in fact, I wonder why they keep him as a member there, probably,
>
>I didn't ask you to "open your personal files in public".  I just wanted
>a reconfirmation to support what you previously stated as the true.  It
>is obvious that you have no idea what you are talking about and are using
>this as a way of trying to contradict what I wrote.
>
>>or the creatures. You may want to learn how to evaluate people
>>objectively, even if they claim that they are the inheritors of the
>>Prophet (as it is the current satus quo.)
>
>He NEVER said that he was "the inheritors of the Prophet"!  My God --
>were is your mind?!  What is the purpose of bring this into the issue?  I
>don't want to evaluate him because the sources of information that I
>provided and his position on the issue are accurate and legitimate to the
>original posting!  I don't care whether you like him or not, Nabeel.  I
>think you should stick to the issue and not what you care to throw in as a
>way of offsetting it.
>
>>   The cause of this statement is that you can not decide whether
>>you want to believe the Kuwaiti propaganda or the facts found out
>>later. Even if they actually raped, I'll bet the rape rate was
>>lower than it was before and after the invasion; consult with human
>>right files, Shaqeeqa.
>
>I am not referring to Kuwaiti Propoganda.  Yes, I do KNOW that it existed
>as a way of obtaining U.S. support for the invasion of Kuwait.  But there
>still exists the fact that women (and men TOO) were raped by Iraqi soldiers
                  ^^^^
>during the Gulf War.  Rape is rape, Nabeel.  There is ABSOLUTELY NO
>JUSTIFICATION OR EXCUSE for this dehumanizing act of power and control over
>innocent human beings!  YOU NEED to read the human rights reports, Nabeel!
> 

It is tragic how some people tell lies repeatedly and expect others to
beleive them, i question what is refered to above as a "fact",no one
has definitely verified this claim,and whether something like that
was actually done by iraqi soldiers or by foriegn workers who many of
them siezed the opportunity to have their revenge against their hated
ex-employers,who themselves used their positions to rape,humiliate and
sometimes even kill the poor (philipinos,sirilanki,etc...),
servants who worked for them.

I wonder if this "fact" is just like the "fact" about the baby
incubators,that was claimed by non other than the daughter of the
"kuwaiti" embassador to the u.s. who lied to congress by pretending
that she was a regular "kuwaiti" who witnessed the acts of killing
babys when she actually was not even in kuwait during that time,
or did we forget this incident since it is better forgotten??

>>   As if I need excuses to flame whoever the hell I damned well wanted
>>to flame. Do you call this a flame? If I actually flamed you probably
>>you would accuse me of physical violence against women!
>
>I seriously believe that you need good psychiatric help.  I honestly do
>not mean this as an insult, but there is definitely something not right
>with the way that you function, Nabeel.
>
>Salamtak -
>
>Anisa
>















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