HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ramakrishna Chada)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Nobel Prize & IITs
Date: 6 Oct 92 06:25:28 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

In article <1992Oct6.061404.21314@news.uiowa.edu> rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ramakrishna Chada) writes:
>In article <23379@optima.cs.arizona.edu> lal@cs.arizona.edu (The New Sun) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct5.163040.24210@news.columbia.edu> ta-vg11@muddnext8.cc.columbia.edu (Vikas Gupta) writes:
>>>In article <1992Oct5.074207.6240@reed.edu> vganesan@reed.edu (The Phoenix)  
>>>writes:
>>>> >
>
>
>Hope my advice helps.
>
>You are welcome,
>
>Ramakrishna 

Btw, I forgot to wish you good luck. You need that too.
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From: ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan - Mick)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: Back from India
Date: 2 Oct 1992 17:19:28 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

In a previous article, dxn@juniper.WPI.EDU (Deepak Narain) said:
:- From chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala):
:- >you think of yourself, you stinking bas*****? Nee guddhala
:- >modda. OrE sanyasi, neeku pOye kAlam vacchindhira dunnapOtha.
:- >Are now able to understand what I am trying to say? My purpose
:- >of this posting is worth if you could understand approximately.
:- 
:- Now I don't understand what you are saying.


	i was suffering from the same problem and have requested
	assistance from soc.culture.indian.telugu. i am sure some
	helpful soul will provide translations. i strongly suggest you
	follow the thread in scit.

	peace,

	- ravi


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Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:32835 soc.culture.pakistan:15416
From: merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Islam and Science 
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:45:30 PST
Organization: DAVID Systems Inc, Sunnyvale CA

In article <BvF2vF.Lno@ucunix.san.uc.edu>, ghayalm@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod) writes:
> In article <1992Sep30.192413.18364@cs.yale.edu> ahmed-shakil@CS.YALE.EDU (Shakil Waiz Ahmed) writes:
>>
>>In article <BvEG1v.KqA@ucunix.san.uc.edu>, ghayalm@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod) writes:
>>
>>
>>You're all totally missing the point.  The Qur'an is a complete book
>>of guidelines.  It is not a book of relativity or a book on
>>NP-completeness, or a book of astronomy.  But it does explain things
>>about the creation of the universe in terms that everyone can
>>understand.  God is telling us how he did it in terms that we can all
>>understand -- what's the point of explaining it only to Carl Sagan?
>>
>>Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) was illiterate.  The vast majority of people
>>don't know much about astrophysics.  That's why the message was put in
>>simpler language.  At the time it was revealed, all the astronomical
>>terms we have now didn't even exist!
>>
>>-- Shakil
> 
> Why was Muhammed (pbuh) chosen?  What qualities did he have that
> God decided to give him so much knowledge.  God must have known
> that he won't be able to understand them, why not choose some one
> who can understand these theories, because to explain them to
> people you have to understand them first.
> 
> Manoj

Why ask 'Why'?

Why does the earth rotate around the sun?;
Why is the sky blue?; Why?; Why?; Why?; ....

The Holy Quran is for *all* of mankind and for all of time.

The questions you ask are questions that ALLAH(swt) may
provide an answer for, not Shakil.  It amounts
to the same kind of reasoning as "Why do you exist?" and
that answer can only be provided by Allah (swt).

A hadith:
--
	On the authority of Abu Huraira 'Abd ar-Rahman ibn
Sakhr (may Allah be pleased with him), who said: I heard the 
Messenger of Allah (may the blessings and peace of Allah be upon
him) say:

	What I have forbidden to you, avoid; what I have ordered 
	you [to do], do as much of it as you can.  It was only their
	excessive questioning and thier disagreeing with their 
	Prophets that destroyed those who were before you.

	It was related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.
--


Rukhsana Merchant
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:32567 soc.culture.pakistan:15341
From: azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: The Legend Is Back. :-)  -- Icarus.
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:54:15 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Sep29.232939.19294@colorado.edu> paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Atharvan) writes:
>1] For those of you who had heaved a sigh of relief this is bad news.
>   Icarus alias Atharvan is back on the net again, just a man(some
>   would question that) and his will to survive. :-)

	   Just a friendly reminder that around here (SC* groups),
Farrukh Zafar was the only LEGEND, is the only LEGEND, will be the
only LEGEND. The rest will always remain LEGENDs in their own mind,
but not in their own time. :-)

	   Salman [a legend in his own mind and yours too] Azhar

-- 
"All men, in their vanity, want to be a woman's first romance. Me, I
just want to be my first woman's last love. 

--- D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar CS Dept Duke U  azhar@cs.duke.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: sanjiva@ecrc.de (Sanjiva Prasad)
Subject: Re: NEWS : Distortion in history textbooks opposed
Reply-To: sanjiva@ecrc.de (Sanjiva Prasad)
Organization: European Computer-Industry Research Centre, Munich
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:40:47 GMT

Large-hearted though he was, Swami Vivekananda had felt tormented
towards the end of his life by the fact that Muslim invaders had
desecrated and destroyed countless sacred images of Hindu gods and
goddesses and pulled down Hindu temples and built mosques over 
their ruins.  Unable to bear the burden of this humiliating testimony
of history, he poured out his anguish at the feet of Kali, the
Divine Mother.  "How could you let this happen, Mother, why did you
permit this desecration?" he cried.  Kali whispered the following 
response to this question in Vivekananda's heart, liberating him
from anguish:  "What is it to you, Vivekananda, if the invader
breaks my image?  Do you protect me, or do I protect you?"

	-- "The life of Vivekananda", Advaita Ashram, Calcutta 1974,
	At Kshir-Bhavani, p 598, quoted in "The Pharisees of Purity" 
	by Ramachandra Gandhi, 	India Today, September 30, 1992, pp 96-97
--
Sanjiva Prasad,  Guest Magician				E-mail: sanjiva@ecrc.de
European Computer Industry Research Centre		Off: +49 89 92 69 91 58
Arabellastrasse 17					Fax: +49 89 92 69 91 70
8000 Muenchen 81, Germany				Res: +49 89 16 33 59
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.asian.american
From: irshad@cirrus.com (Irshad Ahmed)
Subject: INFO NEEDED: Aix Tix purchased here for Indian Visitors
Originator: irshad@ss267
Organization: Cirrus Logic Inc.  Fremont, California
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 19:24:24 GMT


Are there any complications/regulations to send two way air tickets
from here to the visitors coming from India.

I have heard that India considers this as loss of foreign revenue
and may have some regulations.

Any input is appreciated.

Thanks!
-Irshad.

P.S. Please reply by email directly, I'll summarize on net later.
     My email address is irshad@cirrus.com
From: prasanth@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ravi K. Prasanth)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: IIT's and REC's. Training factories for US? (was: NRI's returning to India
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:49:14 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Sep29.011332.113632@ua1ix.ua.edu>, ngopalas@ha05.eng.ua.edu () writes:
> 
> [some statements on taxpayers money and IITians deleted]
> 
> Similarly before engineers embark on the dollar hunt they
> should be made to work for a certain period of time in India. At the  
> very least they should be made to pay back whatever the Govt has spent
> on their education.
> A few thousand dollars will hardly make a difference in the pocket
> of the professionals here. If people are not willing to go back 
> then they should at least reimburse India for whatever she has 
> spent on them. Sound reasonable? 
>  

Sure.

I think the Govt should make all IITians stay in India for as
long as they live. That way we can make sure that the cream 
will become mediocrity.

> I myself am from IIT and know that the Govt spends nearly 2 lakhs on 
> every BTech product. It's high time we stopped free-loading on the  
> system and paid something back. I would like some honest opinions 
> instead of rationalizations. 

Govt should realize the mistake and stop spending money on
IITs. Nobody will then have a chance to get an excellent
education.

My disagreement is with your use of "they should" which 
violates my right to choose not to. I think a solution that 
doesnt violate an individual's rights is to let each individual
decide for him/herself. What will democracy be if the Govt
decides everything leaving the individual with no choice ?

> Nath.                                                        

RKP
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:32467 soc.culture.indian.telugu:216
From: banarji@unixg.ubc.ca (Ajai Banarji)
Subject: This may help Murty Gandikota
Originator: banarji@unixg.ubc.ca
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:13:10 GMT

	HOW TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT COMPANIES IN INDIA

(This is in response to the person who asked about info about major
constuction companies in India. However, this information may be useful for
people in most areas who are looking for jobs in "mainstream" industry
as opposed to software and related areas.)

  There are many places where one can find information about jobs and
companies in India. To begin with, places you should NOT waste your
time with are Indian embassies and consulates. They may sometimes have
some age-old circulars about some obscure government positions which they
keep displaying long after the deadline. Some consulates (like San Francisco)
do have a small library with some handbooks which may be useful if you
can go there and look it up yourself. Don't expect any result by writing or
phoning.
  Does your university have a business school? Ask the librarian there.
Some of the bigger b-school libraries will have a directory like Kothari's
directory which gives addresses and brief particulars of all companies
which are quoted on the stock exchanges (which covers virtually all companies
of any size, though there are some exceptions like the Godrej group). BTW
this directory can also be ordered from the publishers in Madras; I asked
for a quote and they said $200 for air mail, which I think is far too
much. It is also available in India for Rs 800.
  Some B-school libraries (like Harvard) have the Bombay Stock Exchange
Directory which is in about 20 volumes. This gives details of financial
performance, addresses of various offices/plants and usually a lot of
other interesting information about the company's history and future plans.
It costs a few thousand rupees in India, and has a weekly replacement
service. God knows how much it will cost you to subscribe in the US.
  If you are in a large city like Vancouver, try the main public library
as well. There are some public libraries (in areas with a large desi
population) which carry a number of Indian publications; for instance
the library at Sunnyvale, CA gets Business India as well as a few others.
  So your library doesn't have this. There are other ways out. Many university
libraries in US/Canada do subscribe to at least one major paper like Times
of India. If you keep looking at the job wanted ads you will sooner or later
find the addresses of many major companies, as well as that of the major
headhunters like AF Ferguson. 
  You may find it worthwhile to subscribe to journals like Business India
(which probably has the most ads). A short-term subscription can be got from
US-based distributors like Peekay.
From: lal@cs.arizona.edu (The Morning Sun)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: SOME DOKI JOKES
Keywords: jokes
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:16:05 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Oct6.213816.5138@cis.ohio-state.edu> angrish@ganymede.cis.ohio-state.edu (yogesh angrish) writes:
>
>What is worse than a Doki and a couple of chamchas on the net?
>
>people who're kidding.
>
>P.S. Do you think I'm kidding?

What is worse than people who are kidding?

People who ask questions about things to which only they themselves know the answers.

Thanks.
     


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rrp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (rakesh.r.patel)
Subject: IIT Bullshit
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:59:50 GMT

I am the only one getting fed up reading all this bullshit about IIT?
From the sounds of it, you would think man would still have been up
in the trees if it hadn't been but for the grace of IIT to save 
humanity.  I am getting sick and tired of hearing all this bullshit
from `IITians' (shouldn't it be IIT graduates??) about India losing
all it 'gifted' engineers.  GIVE ME A BREAK!!! You would think that
all of India's best minds somehow end up at an IIT.  Talk about 
arrogance!!! With something like 850 million people, these upper
class,elitist IIT graduates somehow feel as though they have some sort
monoply on intelligence and ability. And poor, poor India. Won't she be 
devastated by most of these 'IITians' fleeing to the West? What will
become of her??? India! Without her 'IITians', she will be lost! You
should be that lucky!!! 

Rakesh 'IIT-Killer' Patel


P.S. What the heck is world culture?????????????
From: rajain@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Sikh/khalsa net
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:07:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: ecs.18676.2ad18164

In article <22721@galaxy.ucr.edu>, studmffn@watnxt12.ucr.edu (Arvin Taneja) writes:
> I was wondering if anybody has any information on how to join the Sikh or  
> Khalsa net. Thanks.
  
  Hey! Is there any Sikh/Khalsa net ? I didn't know that one existed.
  Please email the procedure of joining the above-mentioned net to me
  too! 

> 
> 
> Arvind Singh
> 
> (@studmffn.watserv.ucr.edu)

Thanks,

	Rajat Jain

	Email: rajain@sml3.ecs.umass.edu
	       rajain@ecs.umass.edu
From: amara@informix.com (Amar Ananthapadmanabha)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Humurous Incidents involing desis ....and not so humourous.
Date: 5 Oct 92 01:12:17 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

The year 1991..
Place ...  somewhere in the  state of California, 
	   where Indians could get lost in the crowd of Mexicans.

It was MERVYN'S SEMI ANNUAL ....SALE and also, I had a trip to India coming..
So, armed with my MERVYN CREDIT CARD and a desi buddy, I made a horde of 
purchases.  At the cash register, I mentioned to my friend, MERVYN's policy of 
giving a 15 % DISCOUNT on the total of all purchases you make with the 
MERVYN card the first time.

My buddy with his desi ingenuity (sp?), smilingly asked the clerk if one could 
close the account often..

Pat came the query from the clerk : ARE YOU AN INDIAN?


Amar Ananthapadmanabha

amara@informix.com
From: sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Places to Suggest for Honey Moon .
Date: 3 Oct 1992 22:01:18 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu


>I am getting married in January in Delhi .
>I was wondering if you could suggest me some places .
>I intend to go for one month trip .
>Thanks
>Anil


come over to WPI. it is lot of fun out here.


suresh 



ps: no offense intended, just kidding


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bagula@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: Looking for Manoj Bagul @ Purdue University
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:31:46 GMT

I am looking for Manoj  Bagul at purdue university , west lafayette.

He is a post doctoral student in the  Chemistry Department.

If you know him please ask him to contact me at  (508)-458-6219

Thank you for your co-operation.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mgundeko@pcserver2.Naitc.Com (Murthy Gundekota)
Subject: Addresses of Indian Private Companies 
Organization: Somewhere near Chicago
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 22:28:27 GMT



Does anyone know a book that organizes Indian private companies by
their product category and an address to contact them?  I am trying to
help out a friend who wants to send queries to Indian private
companies on a survey he is working on. To reiterate, I am looking for
a listing as follows:

Company name	Products	Address

Juhu Cleaner    Animal refuge   5056 Man-with-red-turban-under-tree street
				Juhu
				Bombay


Ps: This is a serious request and not a joke. Apparently, the Indian
consul in Chicago never heard of any such book. But they are working
on procuring one. Now, that's a joke. 



Murthy
From: garrer@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re:Humurous Incidents involing desis
Date: 2 Oct 92 11:58:54 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

#define OT old Timer
#define NC New Comer

NC:  How do you get coke from that (pointing to vending machine)
OT:  drop 50 cents and press the where it is written coke  and you get it.

The NC goes to the machine drops in 50 cents and presses "COKE"  but is
unable to get anything. Frustrated after a few tries he approaches the OT.  THe 
OT takes him to the machine and asks him what  he pressed.  

To his astonishmnet (OT's) the NC points to the 6 feet plastic board on which
"COKE" is written.


IN another similar incident a NC drops in 50 cents and touches a button and a
pop comes out.  Amused at his he does it again.  Seeing this an OT asks him why
he is taking so many pops.  As an answer the NC said "Do you know xxxx, this is
really wonderful, drop 50 cents in this box and touch this button and a can
comes out at your feet".  The OT couldnt help asking "then why do you think you
are dropping the coins".
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vdayal@iastate.edu (Vinay Dayal)
Subject: Phoenix Travel NJ
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA 
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:03:20 GMT

Do netters have experience buying Airline Tickets through Phoenix travels NJ, Phone(1-800-626-7327).  Any good or bad comments will be appreciated.

Vinay Dayal

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: bala@ulysses.att.com (Bala Krishnamurthy)
Subject: Sikh Militants Bomb Bus, 5 dead 55 Injured
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:02:44 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Keywords: Bomb Death Injury Punjab

apnews reports:
	   AMRITSAR, India (AP) _ Sikh militants set off a bomb in a
crowded passenger bus in Punjab state today, killing five people
and injuring 55, police said.
	   The time bomb, hidden in a suitcase, went off when the bus
pulled out of the Pathankot bus station, 65 miles north of
Amritsar, said Sumant Kumar Goel, a senior police officer. Amritsar
is the holy city of the Sikhs.
	   The blast ripped the bus in two, set it afire and hurled
passengers onto the road, Goel said.
	   He said 55 passengers were hospitalized, 15 of them with serious
burns.
	   Most of the passengers were Hindus living near the border of
Punjab and Jammu-Kashmir states, Goel said.
	   On April 19, Sikh militants set off a bomb in a bus in the
Pathankot station, killing 15 passengers.
	   Authorities have recently cracked down on militants, arresting
or gunning down some guerrilla leaders after the chief minister of
an elected government vowed to curb Sikh separatism.
	   The bus attack could have been aimed at challenging government
claims that it has broken the back of the militant movement, which
has claimed more than 15,000 lives in the past six years.
	   Sikh militants have often targeted Hindus after the 1984
assassination of Prime Minister Indira Gandhi by Sikh bodyguards
triggered a wave of Hindu-Sikh riots in the country.
	   Sikhs form barely 2 percent of India's 857 million population,
but they form a slight majority in the northern state of Punjab.
	   They complain that the federal government denies them religious
and economic rights, leading militants to launch their independence
movement nine years ago.
From: vijay@austin.ibm.com (Vijay Joglekar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Got info.. Singapore Visa...
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:55:50 GMT
Reply-To: vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: IBM (Aix Tools Development)
Originator: vijay@vijay.austin.ibm.com


Indian Pasport holders need to get a visa to enter Singapore.
You need to call 202-667-7555 and ask them to send you an application
form.  If all your documents are in order they issue the visa and send
the passport back the next day.

Vijay

-- 
**********************************************************************
               Vijay Joglekar - arbiter elagantiarum
 Disclaimer: These are my opinions and my opinions only. Has nothing
                      to do with where I work.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: memg2102@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Iraqi Dinars for sale VERY CHEAP DEAL
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:41:31 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I have some Iraqi dinars that I am trying to get rid of. Before the war,
an Iraqi dinar was worth $3. These days it is worth much less (an under-
statement). I will consider any reasonable offers.  I have about 500
dinars. 
marlon menezes
memg2102@uxa.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vilok@bmerh322.bnr.ca (Vilok Kusumakar)
Subject: Historical NAV for IGF
Reply-To: vilok@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 92 18:32:28 GMT

Does somebody have the historical NAV for IGF ?  Somebody had
posted that Wall Street Journal publishes these every monday.
I will really appreciate if somebody can send them to me or post
it on NET. Last 6 months to a year will be great.

Thanks in advance,

---------------
Vilok Kusumakar                    OSI Protocols for tomorrow......
vilok@bnr.ca                       Bell-Northern Research, Ltd.
Phone: (613) 763-2273              P.O. Box 3511, Station C 
Fax:   (613) 765-4777              Ottawa, Ontario, K1Y 4H7
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:32895 soc.culture.tamil:2624
From: rxv6@po.CWRU.Edu (Rajesh Venkateshaiyer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: looking for B.D.KIRAN/T.SRINATH
Date: 3 Oct 1992 03:35:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


I am looking for them too!

Rajesh
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:32260 soc.culture.tamil:2481
From: bhatnagr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Raj Bhatnagar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: NEWS : Distortion in history textbooks opposed
Date: 27 Sep 92 02:03:28 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati


In article <1a03kiINNceg@interceptor.ksu.ksu.edu> sngattan@interceptor.ksu.ksu.edu (The Almighty) writes:
>mvishnu@bcr3.uwaterloo.ca (Meenan Vishnu) writes:


>>Do you mean Archeologists or some Kar Sevas ?
>             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>How insensitive can one person be to the reality in the name of secularism!!!
>
>>>rammohan
>
>>Meenan Vishnu

It is against the tenets of psecularism to accept the conclusion
that a psecular invader, such as Babar, could have ever destroyed a 
communal place like RamJanmabhoomi. No matter how much the evidence
supports the destruction, the psecular experts, proficient in the 
art of Hegelian dialectics, will either refuse to see the evidence
or will produce an anti-thesis, howsoever farfetched, for every
thesis that relates the evidence to the temple destruction by Babar.


---raj