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From: jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel)
Subject: Re: Unreal demo!
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:15:48 GMT
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mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst) writes:
>
>>>> SGI Crimson ?
>>Doesn't this one use the R4000?  Maybe the DEC 5000/240 does too?
>
>This one uses an R4000 (I believe with 33MHz).
>

That's 50MHz external, 100MHz internal, with a 1MB cache.  It's a real
screamer.  We had one here for a while for compatibility testing, but SGI
wanted it back, so now it's gone :-(

>
>Michael van Elst
>
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From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Any Commodore users buying the Falcon in Germany?
Date: 10 Sep 1992 02:31:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
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I heard that the vaporware Falcon 030 is now selling in Germany
and has just been approved by the FCC as Class B.

Anyone from Germany see the Falcon there?

How well is it doing?

Anyone owning an Amiga considering the Falcon 030 over there?

Reason I ask is that I hear that Atari and Commodore have an
equal market share there and many people have both systems.


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From: iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Way to go Commodore! Yeah...right.
Date: 13 Sep 92 20:44:54 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Sep13.080200.23449@cheshire.oxy.edu> leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt) writes:
>Reason for A600 ECS machine?  
>How about a $1000 A3000 by mid year?
>Sound salavatory?
>The 3000 is the new midrange machine... and a very nice one at that...
>in other words, the lower end platform will MOVE, and well, and there will
>be a substantial market for software written for ti.

Yeah, then who develops new software for the "AGA" chips? If all of the
low and mid-range can ONLY do ECS stuff?

>
>Thom
>


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From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Subject: Re: CDTV is dead.
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 18:32:58 GMT

barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
:    As an example, someone mentioned that the AA chipset uses 1.6 micron CMOS
: technology.  To put it bluntly, 1.6 micron CMOS sucks.  I looked through my
: complete set of Intel databooks, and noticed that Intel was using 2.0 micron
: technologies way back in *1978*, and was using 1.2 micron CMOS technologies
: by 1983.  If 1.6 micron CMOS is the best technology that Commodore has
: available to them in-house, you can forget about anyone ever buying them out.

If you'd sit and think, you'd realize that you just compared a bunch
of custom chips and gate arrays to one of Intel's newest processors.

This is one of your most far-out claims yet.  They're not comparable.
And though CMOS in 1.6 won't give you the millions of transistors
being used in Intel's stuff, that's just fine--they're not building a
processor.  Also, it's cheaper and more efficient to use 1.6, and I
don't think they'd NEED over that, do you?

"1.6 micron CMOS sucks."  It certainly does not.  However, it sucks if
you're comparing it to an Intel processor with x million transistors
running at xx MHz...

Why don't you try a comparison with some founding, for once?  Go look
up someone else with ASICs/custom CMOS and find out what processes
they're using.  That'll be a HELL of a lot more valuable than that
totally useless and mindless comparision you made.

Greg

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From: mmoore@epx.cis.umn.edu ("None of ya Bizness")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Shakeout in PC Industry Continues
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:03:56 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <1992Aug30.022034.6012@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:

>Wow, really?  I would think that Gateway 2000 would be much larger than that.
>Thisis especially suspicious since I thought Packard Bell sold second only to
>IBM in *units* sold.  And that wasn't mentioned.  Or was it?

Speaking of Packard Bell...

How is Packard Bell doing as a clone seller?  Whenever I get a budget
again, I will probably be buying a Packard Bell clone.


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From: ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu (Gregg Giles)
Subject: Re: Random tidbits regarding WOC & A4000
Organization: University of Oregon Campus Information Exchange
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 00:49:01 GMT

In article <_=!zs9b@rpi.edu> danaf@rpi.edu writes:
>
>I want 1280x1024 - even
>if it's only 4 colors. I do desktop publishing to a greyscale laser printer - I
>only NEED two colors, but the more res the better!!

   Most decent DTP packages will let you create a large document that you can
move around in. The ECS/AGA higher-resolution modes should let you view a large
part of the document (Productivity Hires is 640x900x4, SuperHires Interlaced
is 1280x400x4). That should suffice if you don't want to shell out a lot of
money for a large screen monitor. 
   If you really want a very high-resolution monitor and don't need color, then
buy the A2024 greyscale monitor or a Viking Moniterm II. Those should do just
what you need. If you can't afford them, then don't expect Commodore to bring
such power into the basic chipset at a low cost. 
   PageStream will let you shrink and enlarge a document. I imagine that when
SoftLogik makes PS take full advantage of the AGA chipset, then your problems
should be adequately answered..
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From: eachus@Dr_No.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus)
Subject: Re: I WAS RIGHT!!!!!  
Organization: The Mitre Corp., Bedford, MA.
	<1992Sep12.090811.4071@desire.wright.edu>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:57:09 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.090811.4071@desire.wright.edu> fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu writes:

   In article <1992Sep12.030103.9039@news.iastate.edu>, barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:

   >>    See all of you jerks who flamed me for saying that there
   >>   couldn't possibly be 1000 Amiga dealers in the U.S.A. -- *** I
   >>   WAS RIGHT*** !!!!

   >	   Gee Mark,  Thats one in a row!  Congratulations!  :-)

   Sounds like none in a row to me...  If Commodore has 200-250 direct
dealers in the U. S., they probably have several times as many who
purchase through distributors.  However, Commodore may not have a good
handle on how many such dealers there are.  Also, there are many
franchise stores which centralize purchases--one dealer to Commodore,
but many the way most of us count.



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From: tsui@ils.nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A3000T and Mac Quadra pricing
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:03:05 GMT
Organization: Institute for the Learning Sciences

In article <1992Sep11.124610.21755@gbrmpa.gov.au> matt@gbrmpa.gov.au (Matt)
writes:
>In article <copes.716192048@marsh> copes@cs.curtin.edu.au (Simon Cope) writes:
>>
>>can play back 4 plane DCTV anims at 766x533 res (equiv 24 bit) full screen at
>
>I'm rather amused you can use "4 plane" and "24 bit" in the same sentence.
>
>>--
>>copes@cs.curtin.edu.au
>
>matt.
>


well, in DCTV a 4 plane picture has the equivalent #'s of colors as a 24bit
picture.  Its in composite video mode not in RGB.  If you knew anything about
the Amiga and DCTV you would know this.

I personally think that DCTV if marketed properly can be a hell of a lot more
successful then Quicktime.  Quicktime is incredibly lame, even when the anims
are small they look like hell.  Forget full screen animations, they're barely 1
fps.
From: entity@nsq.uucp (cybernetworx)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unreal demo!
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:06:14 GMT
Organization: NSQ

In article <R8ysqB1w165w@bugend.edvina.se>, ralph@bugend.edvina.se (Staffan Vilcans) writes:
> 
> Why call it "Euro-synth"? Why do people say "Euro-demos"?
> Is it perhaps because americans aren't creative (or competent) enough 
> to make demos and music?

Yeah, I think 'incompetent' at hardware level coding is the key word here.

Maybe it's because most europeans have less glorified systems (ie amiga 500
with 2 floppies and 1 meg ram ;-) and so like to fiddle around with stuff at a
low level.. who knows.  They've been doing it since the c64, so I guess that
can't be the reason.. whatever.  Point is, the best european hardware level
programmers are considerably better coders than their North American
counterparts.  Myself excluded of course ;-)
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From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: Amazing Prediction
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:45:35 GMT

In <1992Sep15.040730.2885@tronsbox.xei.com> tron1@tronsbox.xei.com (Kenneth Jamieson) writes:
>	The fact is that he is right. The A400 and the AA chipset are
>just not good enough to capture a signifigant slice of the PC market.

I think you deserve a PC.

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From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: A4000 at WOC
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:40:46 GMT

In <35112@cbmvax.commodore.com> daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
>Well, the A4000's display does slow down some in 256 color mode at higher 
>bandwidths, but I can assure you, none of the modes will cause a window drag
>to last five years.


Too bad that dragging 500x300x256 icons will now show visible redrawing.. :-)

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From: addison@pollux.usc.edu (Richard Addison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000/Atari Falc
Date: 8 Sep 1992 20:42:08 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu

In <gate.49ymqB1w165w@lakes.trenton.sc.us> mr_scary@lakes.trenton.sc.us (mr_scary) writes:
}	I would agree that a FlickerFixer is less elegant than a new video
}card that doesn't flicker and replaces the existing hardware, but how is a
}BridgeBoard a kludge?

It includes an Intel processor.  :-)

Gee, maybe I don't need that smiley.  An Intel processor is less elegant
than many other processors.

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From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Random tidbits regarding WOC & A4000
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:24:01 GMT
Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <25799@castle.ed.ac.uk> marks@castle.ed.ac.uk (Mark Steyn) writes:
> The A4000 has a PCMIA interface.  

NOT!
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From: kenward@cs.sfu.ca (Kenward Chin)
Subject: Re: More AmigaWorld Lies
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:16:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.232209.4485@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>
[...specific figures edited for brevity...]
>
>  4 dealers 
>---------------- * 250 million == 250 dealers
>4 million people
>
>   Thus, most cities have to have a LOT more than 4 dealers per 4 million 
>people for there to be 1000 of them in the U.S.

Well, I can't speak for a *large* area, but Vancouver, B.C., Canada has
about 1.5 Mpeople living there.  Let's see, I can think of three or four
actual "dealers" and at least four other stores that sell Amiga hardware.
I'm almost sure that there are other stores which sell Amiga hard/software.
So, at least here, the number is more than five dealers per 1 Mpeople.  In
that case, at least D. Barney's numbers are plausible.

Kenward "I can't believe I got involved in this thread" Chin
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From: Chris_Millar@lppl.mi.org (Chris Millar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: AA chipset
Date: 7 Sep 92 05:02:14 GMT
Organization: Les's Place BBS

What are the "exact" specifics on the rumored AA chipset?  I had the
details awhile ago, but seem to have forgotten/misplaced
them.........Thanks in advance.


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From: jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel)
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000/Atari Falc
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:45:51 GMT
X-Posted-From: connection.prospect.com
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andrey@cco.caltech.edu (Andre T. Yew) writes:
>
>>I don't see where you got this "obvious implication".  Software is different
>>from hardware.  There's nothing kludgy about software layers; that's the way
>>software is designed.  Consider X-Windows.  There's Xlib, above which is the
>>X Toolkit, above which is a widget set (like Motif), above which is a virtual
>>toolkit (like XVT).  So, OS/2 supports the DOS API.  I don't see anything
>>wrong with that.  However, the amount of "kludginess" depends on which OS/2
>>you're talking about:
>
>Isn't that comparing apples to oranges Jerry?  Everything
>you can do in Xt can be done with Xlib (and vice-versa).
>

First of all, it doesn't work "vice-versa".  Second, there's a reason for Xt;
sure, anything you can do in Xt you can do in Xlib, but it would take
a ridiculous amount of work.  Third, what's your point here?

>
>However, as you know very well, MS-DOS is incredibly limited
>compared to OS/2.
>

Yes, that's why emulating DOS functionality on top of OS/2 is simple.

>
>Besides what the world is a DOS API?
>Fscanf, fopen, mov, add?
>

DOS has system calls, you know?  They are invoked by Real-Mode software
interrupts.  OS/2 has the ability to service those interrupts in its
Virtual86-Mode tasks.

>
>Andre Yew                         andrey@tybalt.caltech.edu (131.215.48.100)
>
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From: ralph@bugend.edvina.se (Staffan Vilcans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unreal demo!
Date: 9 Sep 92 11:33:03 GMT
Organization: Bugend BBS

rjc@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Ray) writes:

>    Amiga Demo parties are usually held bi-annually in multiple locations
> in Europe. These parties typically have >600 people at them. Demos
> are presented to the crowd and voted on. The priczes for 1st,2nd, 3rd
> place are usually in the hundres, if not thousands of dollars.
> Demos are a _very_ serious thing on the Amiga.  A good demo can get
> you hired at Psynosis or other game companies.
>    The Amiga demo scene is fiercely competitive. The pressure is constantly
> on to produce better and better.

There are a couple every year but not every one is good, or even worth 
visiting. The latest I was on was the Oxygene party and I don't think 
even 300 people was there. But then it was in the middle of the summer, 
another party was held in T{by (also in the Stockholm area), Stockholm 
Water Festival was going on and there was a carneval in Link|ping.

I can olso mention that the prices in the competitions on the Oxygene 
party dropped a great deal. From 500 SEK (about 100 USD) as third price 
in some competitions it dropped to a mouse mat...

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From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000 & HYPE!
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (beta) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:28:06 PST
Organization: Amiga makes it possible

In article <1992Sep2.020303.15898@klaava.Helsinki.FI> lindblad@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Jarkko Lindblad) writes:
> iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy) writes:
> : In article <jbickers.0ebi@templar.actrix.gen.nz> jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers) writes:
> : >Quoted from <joe.715241690@milton> by amigo@milton.u.washington.edu (The Friend):
> :
> : >> at 800x600 (all with built-in windows acelleration for >$200)... the future
> : >>  promises a 1280x1024 card that does 256 colors at that res, 1024x768 with 16
> : >>  million colors - at a "reasonable price".
> : >
> : >    The _present_ offers that for the Amiga.
> :
> : Oh really? What Amiga card can I seamlessly run all my amiga apps on at
> : 1280x1024? What card is useable for all my apps? Oh..there isn't one?
>
> GVP EGS? Well, it does 1600*1280 in 16M colors too...
>

Has anyone seen this EGS for real?

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From: ESRLPDI@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Ivan Ivanick)
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000 & HYPE!
Date: 12 Sep 92 12:16:15 PDT

In article <doiron.0c1o@starpt.UUCP>, on 12 Sep 92 02:06:42 GMT,
doiron@starpt.UUCP (Glenn Doiron) writes:
>>
>> Has anyone seen this EGS for real?
>
>It seems to have surfaced briefly at an AmiExpo, and disappeared just as
>quickly, never to be seen again.  For vaporware it's generated almost as
>much net.bandwidth as the fabled Anti-Aircraft chipset.  The status quo
>still is, for super-high Workbench resolution, DMI or bust.
>
>Glenn Doiron
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No, the EGS was on display & working quite functionally at WOCA.

Ivan I   esrlpdi@uclamvs
From: andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Commodore Announces CD Solution Promotion
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:37:17 GMT
Reply-To: andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel)
Organization: Flying Cat, Inc.

In article <1992Sep11.044343.12374@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>announced the "buy an A3000, get a free CDTV" promotion, MB's immediate
>response would be a minimum of two full screens of complaining and
>whining.
>
>Once again I have demonstrated my omniscience, omnipotence and
>omnipresence where MB is concerned.

Are you sure this is a skill you are proud of having ?  :-)

>Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g


			andy
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From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Subject: Re: Icon default tool paths (was Re: A4000 Specs? Who knows.)
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 21:41:41 GMT

barrett@snoopy.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) writes:
: 	Unfortunately, when the user drags the icon onto DH1:, and his/her
: system disk is DH0:, this fails too.

I don't know why they just don't set things up to use the standard
path.  And the applicaton should be writing its files with the tool's
path set to the app itself...

It's not really that hard, is it?

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From: Winfried.Krueger@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Winfried.Krueger)
Subject: ->>RJ<<- (was Lynx)
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 09:37:51 GMT
Keywords: rubbish,utter rubbish,total rubbish

daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:

>In article <etxansk.715593993@garbod20> etxansk@garbod20.ericsson.se (Anders Skelander) writes:
>>hutchens@uwa.oz.au (JL HUTCHENS) writes:

>>>> [Lynx is] the only Atari product that works right now!

>>>AND IT WAS DESIGNED BY SOME OF THE GUYS WHO DESIGNED THE AMIGA!

>Indeed, RJ and Dave.  Cool machine, too bad they had to sell it to Atari.
         ^^

I hope this isn't a faq (I don't have the nerve to read all this advocacy
stuff...): What is RJ doing now?

...stuff deleted...

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