From: daudo@bcars201.bnr.ca (Dau Do)
Subject: Re: Some remarks about Vietnam communist's role in defeating  Saigon
Reply-To: daudo@bcars201.bnr.ca (Dau Do)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:14:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.044735.12077@emr1.emr.ca>, knguyen@emr1.emr.ca (Kim Nguyen) writes:
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>-Vietminh North or South is still communist who was under Ho's command. 

I think you make a mistake here :-) correct me if I'm wrong.
VietMinh comes from the words: Viet Nam -Do^`ng Minh Ho^.i and VietCong
means Vietnam Communism .  HCM sneaks his members into VNDMH and then eliminated
the key members of this group.  He then took over the leadership and changed
the direction of the group.  .... My memory is kind of vague on how it was
really happened.  But Phan Boi Chau was eliminated by HCM for sure and PBC
was in VNDMH.

>Vietcong in the South is just Vietminh which changes the name. Like we 
>often say "old wine, but new bottle". They  are different ? Look at 
>what they became after 1975 : who is VC, who is Vietminh and who is communist 
>North ?
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>-After 1954, an amount of Vietminh ordered to stay back in SVN to organize 
>assassinations and sabotages in SVN. To deceit abroad, VC or whatever emerged 
>as 
>an insurgent guerrilla arm of NLF, but in essence, they are all communists 
>which 
>received orders from Ha-noi. NLF brushed off its body to look like an 
>opposition 
>party to be against Ngo-dinh-Diem. They did woe some parties, unified them
>under one front. Under foreigner's eye, they were a party and an insurgent
>force to revolt. They had something called Provisional Revolutionary 
>Goverment (PRG) in which they feint like a governmental body, but only a good 
>play on theatre BECAUSE THERE NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN GOVERNMENT AND PARTY !
>PARTY = GOVERNMENT in communist world.
>
>This echoed abroad, in late 50's, that they fight for independence and 
>unification. The world would symphathize for PRG and condemn Ngo-dinh-Diem as 
>dictator or totalitarian. Yes, he might be dictator to parties which are 
>composed of free citizens. To PRG, Ngo-dinh-Diem was enemy of that body; why 
>let 
>that communist party activated freely ? If so, what is the meaning of a free 
>SVN ? And 1968 and NVN army and..... 
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>-Until the day Kissinger and Tho did gather around the table in Jan. 1973, 
>people saw PRG and South Vietnam representatives appear as equal 
>partners ! Tho and Kissinger were as equal partners. Was that a ridiculous 
>play ?
>We all were demoralized by then. We were shot many times and dead many times !
>
>The day Kissinger let PRG and Thieu sit on the table and sign the agreement,
>we knew we were lost; that was the fate of a loser and a weaker; the morality 
>went down; one part of free world was lost. Kissinger didn't know PRG or 
>Vietminh 
>or Vietcong who are just one ? I doubt about that.
>
>We, South Vietnamese, puzzeld that why until that day foreigners still saw PRG 
>as 
>independent insurgents but didn't look at them as communists (whatever South 
>or 
>North which did prepare politically and militarily to swallow the rest). 
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>-Then, NVN invaded SVN, and some people still thought that it is not 
>invasion ! 
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>-Is there any difference among VC, Vietminh or North Vietamese communist? 
>Now, let see the rest of the play.
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>Came 1975. The whole NVN army did take Saigon.
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>PRG must continue to play as a party whose goal is independence and 
>unifiction. 
>They pretended to formally set up something called National United Front by 
>joining with other political groups (whether these are exist, people know that 
>WHAT THE HECK THESE ARE BECAUSE THERE ARE NO OTHER PARTIES IN ANY COMMUNIST 
>BODIES ! ).
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>So, they replaced Thieu's government in 1975 under one UNIFIED party ! It 
>meant that all parties did agree and no question ! or put in other word :
>no dictatorship and no totalitarianism !
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>-And then, NVN army got back to Hanoi ? Nope ! Now everything must be clear to 
>compensate for 30 years of old fighting which marked by lies, deceit and 
>killing. No need to hide : PRG must go or must disappear !
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>-From 1976 on, nobody heard about PRG, even to the world. Now, real 
>governmental power in what had been South Vietnam was subsequently 
>execised by the Vietnamese Communist Party and its North Vietnamese 
>leadership.
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>-At last, VC = Vietminh = North Vietnam communist
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