HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: frank@hsr.no (Frank A Stevenson)
Subject: Demos available:
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:42:30 GMT

This is the current list of demos available by anonymous ftp from:

broremann.hsr.no (152.94.1.10)

Amiga/demo

drwxr-xr-x  2 frank    student       512 Nov 17 15:32 ./
drwxr-xrwx 11 arve     src           512 Nov 17 15:22 ../
-rw-r--r--  1 frank    student       182 Oct 12 13:47 INDEX
-rw-r--r--  1 frank    student    125047 Nov 17 15:30 LEGEND_dentro.dms
-rw-r--r--  1 frank    student    145542 Nov 17 15:30 SBintro.lha
-rw-r--r--  1 frank    student    687156 Oct 12 13:33 a&o.dms
-rw-r--r--  1 frank    student    442305 Nov 17 15:30 bass-Megademo2A.DMS
-rw-r--r--  1 frank    student    338060 Nov 17 15:30 bass-Megademo2B.DMS
-rw-r--r--  1 frank    student    393935 Nov 17 15:30 digitalInnovatnA.DMS
-rw-r--r--  1 frank    student    379773 Nov 17 15:30 digitalInnovatnB.DMS
-rw-r--r--  1 frank    student    661924 Nov 17 15:30 dmob.dms
-rw-r--r--  1 frank    student    130535 Nov 17 15:30 edplyr20.lha
-rw-r--r--  1 frank    student    507489 Nov 17 15:30 flower.DMS
-rw-r--r--  1 frank    student    228109 Nov 17 15:30 horizon.dms
-rw-r--r--  1 frank    student     10880 Nov 17 15:30 jeyes.lzh
-rw-r--r--  1 frank    student     83445 Nov 17 15:30 lampdemo.lha
-rw-r--r--  1 frank    student    125060 Nov 17 15:30 multipla.lha
-rw-r--r--  1 frank    student    261366 Nov 17 15:30 silentsa.dms
-rw-r--r--  1 frank    student     77408 Nov 17 15:30 tristan.lha
-rw-r--r--  1 frank    student    130495 Nov 17 15:30 wasp202b.lha

The INDEX will be updated later, please comment these demos to me.

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From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Subject: Re: stb_Euro.dms (Nov92) Nice music, graphics hang :<
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:45:27 GMT

In <Bxu2Ku.Buz@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> browder@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Chip Browder) writes:

>In article <crystal.721936055@glia> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
>>
>>Well, I downloaded the 662K eurochart demo to see what one of those things

> Well. I for one am sorry you were disappointed, but I should have warned
> you that the EuroChart is not a demo at all. Rather it is just a listing of 
> the top demos/groups/etc. in Europe. There is no great entertainment, as in
> a real demo...

If it is a LISTING, then where is the list??  Like I said, the program
just hung at the first screen, and all that showed was categories.  No 
amount of key pressing or button clicking affected it.  It just sat and 
played music and showed a single non-informative screen.

> However, I'd like to make *our* chart much more entertaining. We have the
> skills to do so I think.

>>I got this copy off of wuarchive, and it took 2 hours to download at 1200
>>baud...and then it just sits there.  I think I will record the music onto
>>a cassette tape andthen delete the thing.
>> 
>> Does anyone know how many different tunes are on that demo?
>>

> No, but there is also a collection of really cool bootblox.

What are those?

> If there WERE a big non-euro scene, people would take more interest in both
> that scene and the euro-scene.
> 
>> Thanks,
>> Crystal
>>   ;>
>>
>>(And *PLEASE* don't suggest I get a faster modem!  I'm unemployed and have
>>other priorities...and I am growing weary of people telling what hardware
>>I *should* have - when right now I have what I *NEED*.)

> Sell it and buy some food :)

Are you saying you'd rather that I didn't post??
*sigh*
From: browder@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Chip Browder)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: VOTES FOR THE OBELISK(?)
Date: 16 Nov 92 10:58:10 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA


 Epsilon dudes: 

 About the voter sheet.. what!? No notice saying non-euro voters only!?
 No separate sections for non-euro demos, groups, artists, coders, and 
 musicians!? I thought that was the whole idea.. otherwise there is no
 point.. you won't boost productivity from other non-euro countries like
 I thought we wanted to unless you let them see their name in print... and
 agaist the old euro groups like tSL, PHA and ARC you won't *ever* see
 that happen until a substantial scene is built.. so help BUILD the scene
 guys. What about our other ideas.. and don't you guys need any art or music?

 RAMchip (/ Megawatts)


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Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
From: espensk@stud.cs.uit.no (Espen Skoglund)
Subject: Re: hardware-hacks, illegal??
Organization: University of Tromsoe
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:51:18 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.142651.24542@ifi.uio.no>, larshaug@ifi.uio.no (Lars Haugseth) writes:
>Have any of you ever tried to put new values into the $DFF102 register
>several times on the same rasterline? You can get some nice effects,
>like 'multi tech-tech' or realtime x-shrinking...

Hepp.. tried that in a demo released christmas 89 (or was it 88). It was a
scroller that flipped round the x-axis. However, noone noticed that the upper
(or lower) part of the scroller shrinked so that it gave you a more relaistic
3D-feeling. :)

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 ) 20 print"Espen Skoglund is my name. ";   |            rstuwxyzABCDEFGHI   (
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Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: 1/2 Meg Chip --> 1 Meg Chip RAM!
From: csccm@luxury.latrobe.edu.au (Chris Miles)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:17:42 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


I have an A500 with 20meg HD on the side, and 3 megs of RAM - 0.5 Chip, 0.5 in
the Trapdoor, and 2 meg FAST in the HD.  Wot I have heard is that its possible
to make the 0.5 meg in the Trapdoor to be another 0.5 meg of Chip ram??  Is
this true, and if so - How do I do IT???!  I realize I might have to buy a
'bigger' Agnus, but I'd just like to know the details of how to do this if it
is possible...

Thanx!

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From: matt-dah@dsv.su.se (Mattias Dahlberg)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: AGA-demo at Anarchy's party...
Date: 20 Nov 92 11:55:05 GMT
Organization: The DSV institute of Stockholm, Sweden
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Hi guys,

who will show off the coolest demo using AGA, at Anarchy's party
in Denmark?

I've heard a rumour that they'll invite PC-owners too, and I think
those people should see some real graphics in action!

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From: d2ser@dtek.chalmers.se (Svante Eriksson)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: DejaVu...this time, something IS wrong.
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:05:57 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

jbrown@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Justin William Brown) writes:

>functionality.  The demo in question is DejaVu.  After "loading" and
>"decrunching," it encounters an "illegal exception."

   You are probably running Kick 2.04 or better.  I had exactly the
same problem when running under 2.04, but no problems at all under 1.3
with the same configuration.  (A-2000b, 1M chip, 4M fast)

>Marc Brown

...ser
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Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
From: brianc@iastate.edu (Brian J Cerveny)
Subject: Re: '040 specs + DEMOS on A4000
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:29:57 GMT

In <1992Nov18.104255.4078@daimi.aau.dk> u920659@daimi.aau.dk (Carsten S|rensen) writes:

>geirh@solan.unit.no (Geir Haugen) writes:
>>      instructions in hardware. All other 68882 instructions (i.e.
>>      sin, cos, exp) are emulated in software.

>Eh, how fast are they then?

Still faster than the 68882 built-ins.
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From: cklaus@hotsun.nersc.gov (C. Klaus)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Rippers
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:46:34 GMT
Reply-To: cklaus@hotsun.nersc.gov (C. Klaus)
Organization: National Energy Research Supercomputer Center


I have quite a few music rippers and graphic rippers.  I was wondering
if anyone had any new ones that would rip the newest music mods
or encrypted graphics?


Thanks.

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From: Paul_Trauth@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Paul Trauth)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: Music and Code from Demos
Distribution: world
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:30:07 CST
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

In a message dated Wed 18 Nov 92  2:28, Wchucky@ocf.berkeley.edu (chuck Woo
wrote:
 WW> Paul_Trauth@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Paul Trauth) writes:
>Nope. Timex Sinclair=Sinclair ZX81.

 WW> oh !@#$, I had one of those.  it was cool, too, considering the top
 WW> machine
 WW> was either a vic-20 or the c64, which was like $600!
 WW> never got any of those MindWare (?) games to load though...

I had a Sinclair ZX80! Gods, i get queasy remembering that bitty box...

>I'm not sure if the Spectrum was ever available in the US...

 WW> it was, in a modified form: remember the TS/2000?
Vaugely. I went from my ZX80 (with a rom switch for zx80 or zx81, but still
just, um, some pitiful amount of RAM) to a C64 instead of a Spectrum...

(should i direct followups to alt.comp.old.fogeys? :-)

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From: eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen)
Subject: Re: Programming
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 18:10:50 GMT

In article <mwm.2n8f@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us>, mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer) writes:

 > These sound like things you want to write games, or to do
 > presentations. They also aren't unique to AMOS; any serious multimedia
 > or presentation tool has those capabilities.  I'd be surprised if most
 > of those aren't better for building presentations than AMOS. Guess
 > what that leaves AMOS most suitable for?

Fine.  *YOU'D* be surprised.  On the other hand, so would a sheep.

 > > to compare AMOS to C when it comes to writing utilities (but it still can
 > > be done in  AMOS),
 > 
 > Utilities can? System-friendly, AUISG-compliant utilities? The
 > evidence indicates otherwise.

WHAT evidence?  You're sure as hell not supplying any!

 > Giggle. Oh well - I guess that's to be expected if you think that
 > typical AMOS behavior is acceptable.

Oh dear.  Not only do we not like AMOS, we also don't approve of C.  So, your idea
of a system-friendly language is what?  Machine code (in binary, of course)?

 > > AMOS helps by introducing the
 > > concepts of modularity (and if you try to tell me modularity is not an
 > > important concept in programming, go back and retake some CS classes) in
 > > a language that is simple to use and understand while allowing the user
 > > to do advanced features ( psycological reward is important when starting
 > > to program ).  I don't think this can be disputed a lot.
 > 
 > I don't dispute any of that. However, it's not the only language with
 > those features; and I *know* the alternatives let you build programs
 > that don't have the AMOS bugs. I'm waiting for some one to tell me

Oh, right, *THOSE* AMOS bugs.  The ones you frequenty invoke, but never name.

 > that AMOS can avoid those bugs (of course, then it gets castigated for
 > encouraging them, but that's a different kettle of fish).
 > 
 > > 	And even if AMOS can't do what you describe above, of what use
 > > is that to a BEGINNER programmer.
 > 
 > None, but you were disputing the point that it wasn't system
 > compliant. If it can't do those things, then it's not system
 > compliant. Of course, a beginning programmer should be exposed to
 > proper programming *results* as well as technics. If AMOS can't do
 > what I describe, then it can't do the former.

How many times?  It *IS* system compliant!

 > 	<mike

-Eyvind

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From: Jesse_Michael@amwbbs.rain.com (Jesse Michael)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: Charts/Magazine/WHatever!
Distribution: world
Date: 15 Nov 92 05:03:43 PST
Organization: The Amiga Connection BBS (503)667-5852

But what about those of us who have ALREADY WRITTEN THE CODE FOR THE CHART?
:)

Dancing Fool and I (Haze) have completely finished the chart.

-Jesse   (Haze of Epsilon)

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From: Dan_E_Babcock@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: '040 specs + DEMOS on A4000
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 16:11:09 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Nov18.104255.4078@daimi.aau.dk>
  <brianc.722114997@pv660a.vincent.iastate.edu>
  <1992Nov19.121502.6489@ifi.uio.no>

The operations left out of the '040 (which aren't heavily used
anyway) can be implemented faster than the 68881 (actually about the
same speed), but are considerably slower if you add trap overhead (if
a program is compiled with the unimplemented 68881 instructions).

Dan
From: ggranger@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Greg Granger)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: '040 specs + DEMOS on A4000
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 15:30:11 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

[ Stuff deleted ]
 
- The Hunt for Xth October / CRB
 
Hmmm, would that mean "Tenth of October"?  That just happens to be my birthday.
What a surprise!
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Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
From: mknip@niksula.hut.fi (Mats Anders Knip)
Subject: Re: Phenomena egos??
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
	<MKNIP.92Nov12144453@wolverine.hut.fi>
	<1992Nov13.130146.14587@ifi.uio.no> <1968@lysator.liu.se>
	<1992Nov16.083508.24131@ugle.unit.no>
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:49:24

 >>Another nice "hack" on the Amiga, is to have more than 8 sprites
 >>on a single raster-line. It is pretty easy, you just use the copper
 >>to set the xposition of the sprites more than once pr.line.

  >Oh? I've heard that this isn't possible. Couldn't you supply us with
  >some sourcecode, please?

Eh.? Was that meant as a joke? Why wouldn't it be possible?
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From: jms1086@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: DejaVu...this time, something IS wrong.
Date: 16 Nov 92 08:15:07 GMT
Reply-To: jms1086@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

I could swear that you needed the 1M Agnus to use pal.....
But I could be wrong....
					-Garion...
From: ewhac@ntg.com (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: Music and Code from Demos
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:20:28 GMT
Organization: Politically Incorrect Software, Ltd.

In article <1eccknINN2bq@travis.csd.harris.com> srp@travis.csd.harris.com ( Stephen Pietrowicz) writes:
>From article <1992Nov17.215357.15277@ntg.com>, by ewhac@ntg.com (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab):
>> acknowledge the help of William Arthur Ware (author of the game
>
>Is that Reichart Von What's-his-name?  (I had heard long ago that "Reichart"
>changed his name).
>
	Will Ware and Reichart Von Wolfsheild are two separate people.  I
know because I've seen them both in the same room at one time :-).  Reichart
is president of Silent Software, Inc.; Will works for him.

>Speaking of Screen hacks...  done any lately?  :*)
>
	I did "Nopaz" back in June.  Most recently I completed EuroStars
2.0.  Posted on Portal and BIX.  I'll send it to comp.sources.amiga as soon
as I get cross-section of a cylindrical Tuit.

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Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
From: tweston@nyx.cs.du.edu ( Tony Weston)
Subject: Re: Music of substance demo.
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 18:32:49 GMT

tweston@nyx.cs.du.edu ( Tony Weston) writes:
rggggh, I't didn't work!!!!!

I'll try again!,
has anybody got the module from the demo
substancs by quartex?....I's sorta soft metal.I't the best tune
I've ever heard on the amiga, so if anyone has it, can they mail
it to me please?? Thanks.

		Tony.
From: Pat_Mccuen@amwbbs.rain.com (Pat Mccuen)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: test
Date: 15 Nov 92 16:26:55 GMT
Organization: The Amiga Connection BBS (503)667-5852

This is a test - please ignore

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From: Dan_E_Babcock@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: "Jesus On E's" / LSD Demo works !
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 16:13:31 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

DMS uses regular trackdisk routines. I use my own trackdisk.device
which has verify, so I don't have that problem. :-)

Dan
From: franklin@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (John Franklin)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: Music and Code from Demos
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:11:57 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

In article <1979@lysator.liu.se> marvil@lysator.liu.se (Martin Vilcans) writes:
>tfinn@crash.cts.com (Aaron Grier) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Nov13.142612.8928@daimi.aau.dk> pjunold@daimi.aau.dk (Peter Joachim Unold) writes:
>>Please do! And take some friends with you.. I think there should be demos
>>made for every computer ever made! :) (Timex Sinclair 1000 anybody? Joke..)
>
>If Timex Sinclair is the same as ZX Spectrum here in Europe (which I'm quite
>sure it is), I must say that there exists some demos for it, but most of them
>only run on the 128K version that came in 1986. Most demos I've seen for it
>really sucks, but some of them are impressive. I have made a few bad
>ones, and started on a good one (after I got more demo experience on the Amiga)
>but I doubt it will ever be finished.

Um... no.  The Timex Sinclair 1000 was a door wedge sized and shaped
computer with a membrane keyboard and came with 2K of memory.  You could
pump it up to a whopping 16K with an add on pack and you could store
your programs with any audio cassette recorder that had an input jack.

The 128K machine that you're thinking of is a Cray in comparison.

jf
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From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: Music and Code from Demos
Date: 20 Nov 92 08:36:42 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <1992Nov17.215357.15277@ntg.com> ewhac@ntg.com (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab) writes:
 >
 >	Will and I also collaborated on the CDTV ROM project.  You know the
 >boot screen?  The preferences screen?  The CD-audio control screen?  The
 >screen blanker?  Those are ours (artwork by Jim Sachs).  Ask me nice and
 >I'll tell you how to bring up the secret messages...  :-)

So:  very very very very very very nicely asking!!!!
PLEASE!

 >>He is one of my heros, along with Jim Butterfield.

Oh, yes, PET GAZETTE! Those were the days.

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Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
From:  ()
Subject: Re: good ol' 64 demos
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:04:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov09.155049.21492@crash>, tfinn@crash.cts.com (Aaron Grier) writes:
> 
> Hey all... all this talk about demos and stuff makes me kinda hungry for
> the past. I've got a circa 1982 C64 setup and I am wondering where I
> could find any demos for it on ftp. I am figuring on grabbing the demos
> and decompressing them to executables on this PC then sending the
> binary to the 64 over a 300 baud modem. (I'm patient...) Heck man, I've
> even got the punter protocol for this PC. :-)
> 
> Any suggestions where to start? All this stuff is so interesting!
> 
> agrier@gompers.gompers.edu (real internet addy)
> tfinn@crash.cts.com (UUCP address)
> 
> 
Check out the 'comp.sys.cbm' newsgroup!

believe it or not it's much more alive than this one :)
... there's a list of FTP sites uploaded regularly and there's also
an excellent net-mag called 'C= Hacking' which is one of the coolest
things I've seen on the net (If you're into coding that is)


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