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From: andy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Andrew Hackard)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Six Flags--which one?
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:10:40 GMT
     <1992Apr6.133123.17233@engage.pko.dec.com> 
     <cee1.702587168@Isis.MsState.Edu>
Organization: Leapers For a Better Yesterday

cee1@ra.msstate.edu (Charles Evans) writes:
>buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com writes:
>
>>The complete list:
[not anymore]
>>SF over Texas -- Arlington, TX
>Nope, SF over Texas is right between Dallas and Fort Worth.

Umm...and where did you think Arlington was?

A map (sort of):
 ----------------------------------  ---------  -----------------------------
(              Ft. Worth           )(Arlington)(          Dallas             )
 ----------------------------------  ---------  -----------------------------

(OK, it's more of a projection.) Arlington is the home of the Texas Rangers
and SFoTX.

On the extremely off chance that you were thinking of something else: There IS
a town called Harlingen at the other end of the state, about half an hour north
of Brownsville (and South Padre...but I digress).  SFoT is decidedly NOT 
there.

-- 
--Andrew Hackard                    Disclaimer: As usual, I wasn't consulted.
  andy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu           

"The U.S. is the only highly industrialized nation that teaches eight years of 
 arithmetic, while others begin to lay the foundation for algebra and geometry 
 in primary grades."                              --Iris Carl, President, NCTM
From: Dale English@watson.ibm.com
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Complete list of parks & coasters?
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:53:10 GMT
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM

In  <1992Apr14.212126.3827@gw.wmich.edu>  x90townsen12@gw.wmich.edu writes:
> Can anyone send me a list of amusement parks and the roller-coasters (or
> at least the best ones!) at each park in the United States?  Even a list
> of parks and coasters in the midwest would be greatly appreciated since
> I'm from Michigan.  I've been to several parks in the area but I would
> like to know what I'm missing!  Please send me mail!  Thanks.

I would send mail, if I could, but I can't, so I won't.  But here is some
information you might find useful.

The American Coaster Enthusiasts (ACE) have a book out entitled "Guide To Ride"
which contains descriptions of every major (and a few minor) roller coaster
operating in North America at the start of the 1991 season.  If you love
coasters, you should join ACE.  The address is:

                       American Coaster Enthusiasts
                       P.O. Box 8226
                       Chicago, IL 60680

:hazymemory_on
For a list of amusement parks, there is a book entitled "The Amusement Park
Guide" by Tim O'Brien that may be in your local bookstore under travel.  I
have the book, but can't remember the exact title.   This book, like the
GUIDE TO RIDE, came out shortly before the start of the 1991 season.  It
covers just about every park, and probably some you have never heard of, and
also covers waterparks.
:hazymemory_off

Hopefully, there will be updates in both books soon.

Dale English
From: cee1@ra.msstate.edu (Charles Evans)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: What is the new ride at Six Flags over Georgia?
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:04:12 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State University

A friend of mine from Conyers, GA (suburb of Atlanta) said SFOG has
a new ride.

Does anyone know about it.. I hear its not a roller coaster..??

thanks

chuck

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From: Dale English@watson.ibm.com
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Drachen Fire
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:09:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM

Dynamite!
Relentless!
Awesome!
Chillin'!
Hair-raising!
Excellent!
Nefarious! (Way wicked!)

Ferocious!
Insane!
Revolutionary!
Exhilirating!

Drop everything you are doing and head to Virginia and Busch Gardens!  This
coaster is more than everything they said it would be!  The first drop is
worth the price of admission alone!  Picture interrupting a normal first drop
with a corkscrew, then continuing the drop!  The sensation is...well...you
have to go to Virginia and find out.  Following that is the camelback hill
which gives the exhiliration of flying!  The batwing is glassy smooth and
delightfully disorienting!  Next comes a single corkscrew that sets up for the
cutback element.  Decapitation appears immenant heading into the cutback.
Follow that with another single corkscrew and a bitchin' helix and you have
yourself a coaster that blows away even Magnum!  It goes down smooth like
a shot of...

If you want a special surprise when you go, stop reading here!  The next
bit is for those who will not be able to take a night ride on Drachen Fire.





















Get this.  At night, they turn on the red trim lights on the cars!  Imagine
everything I mentioned earlier with only the trim lights on the cars going
through the course!  What an awesome coaster!


Dale "Drachen Fire" English
From: schaller@hsi86.hsi.com (Dave V. Schaller)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Seeking individuals to join me at KINGS ISLAND on 11-APR-92
Date: 10 Apr 92 13:10:16 GMT
Reply-To: schaller@hsi86.hsi.com.com (Dave V. Schaller)
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford

In article <1992Apr8.165552.920@knight.vf.ge.com> Ray.Moody@Cray.Com (Ray Moody) writes:
}                        ACE Elecktronik Profile
} 
} Name: Ray Moody
} Age: Turned 25 last week (April 1!)
} Home: Cincinnati, Ohio
} Occupation: Computer Jockey
} First coaster ride: The Beast, Kings Island, August 1990 -- so I am a newbie!
} Track record (so far...): 5 wood, 4 steel; 9 total.
} Favorite coaster ride: The Vortex
} Favorite non-coaster ride: Does a Northwest Boeing 747 at take off
}         thrust count here?

Sounds like the dating game :-)

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Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: New Busch park to be built in Spain!
From: cacsc601@ma.secs.csun.edu ()
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 00:56:16 GMT
Organization: California State University, Northridge

In article <1992Apr8.193905.3554@engage.pko.dec.com> buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com () writes:
>As of April 1, Busch Entertainment and Tibidabo
>S.A. announced they will have a $300 million 
>theme park in Spain by 1995.  Building will
>begin later this year.

If only Busch would build an amusement park in California, like maybe on the
site of the Busch Gardens park they tore out about 12 years ago in order to
expand their adjoining beer factory...  :-(  :-(

And people wonder why I won't drink Bud.

--Deanna Bayless (cacsc601@ms.secs.csun.edu)
From: maglione@media.mit.edu (Tom Maglione)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: ACE opinions update & photo + opinions ad.
Date: 10 Apr 92 01:10:55 GMT
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory

I first planned this ad for ACENews about one month ago; I am posting this
to the net because the latest edition of ACENews is late and time is now
slipping away. This posting is really aimed at those of you in Internet
land who are also ACE members. It is about the opinions column and photos
for RollerCoaster! magazine, ACE's flagship publication.

Opinions Update: Send Photos and Get Your Opinions Heard!

	Thanks to all of you out there in coasterland who have helped by
providing opinions and photos for the recent Fall 1991 standup standoff
and the Winter 1992 war of the wooden wildcats. Look for the Texas Giant
opinions in this summer's edition of RollerCoaster! magazine.
	We're hard at work right now preparing 45 Magnum (sic) opinions
on the Magnum XL-200 (Cedar Point, Sandusky, Ohio), one of the most
powerful handguns, oops, coasters in the world, but we need your
photos to help illustrate the story. If you've already submitted a
Magnum opinion, you'll have first priority for getting your Magnum
photos published, but we'll accept photos from any ACE member. In
order of preference, we accept 35-millimeter or 4-by-5 color slides
(transparencies), color prints (glossy preferred over matte finish) and
black-and-white prints. Please don't send any negatives, if we need
any we'll contact you later. All photo materials will be returned.
	Looking ahead to the future, we need your opinions for upcoming
issues of RollerCoaster! magazine. Moving to the middle of the
country, now is your chance to howl your opinions about the Timber
Wolf (Worlds of Fun, Kansas City, Missouri). To continue on a westward
trek, for a later issue we'd like you to give us the scoop on one or both
of the Giant Dippers of California: the Santa Cruz Giant Dipper (Santa
Cruz Beach/Boardwalk, Santa Cruz, California) and the Mission Beach
Giant Dipper (Mission Beach, San Diego, California).
	Opinions can be written in almost any format, but we prefer
double-spaced typewritten over most other forms. You are also
encouraged to include one or more of your own photos of the ride
under scrutiny, the same photo guidelines apply as given above. You
must have already ridden the coaster in order to give us your opinion
on it. As ideas to get your opinions started, tell us what you like about
the ride, what you don't like about the ride, and what you would
change about the ride if you could change it.
	Don't forget to send in those Magnum photos, but get them in by
May 15, 1992. Trot in your Timber Wolf opinions by June 15, 1992, and
give us the drop on the Dippers by September 15, 1992. When you send
in anything, be sure to include your name, return address and phone
number, and send it all to:

Tom Maglione, Photo Editor
RollerCoaster! magazine
29 Rice Road
Wayland, Massachusetts 01778
(508) 655-9120
From: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: pipeline coasters
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:59:50 GMT
Reply-To: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Mark T. Evert writes:

(RE: Pipeline coasters)

>The Ultra-twister at Astroworld in Houston is one such coaster.  I've 
>ridden it.  It's OK but IMHO it is not spectacular.

Well, sort of, but not really.

The Ultra Twister is manufactured by Japan-based TOGO, Intl.  The 
company refers to it as a "Spin Rotating" coaster.  It's basically 
yet another variation on the Shuttle loop theme (once forward, once 
backwards), but uses two separte tracks to achieve this.

The "Pipeline" is the working name for the coaster (concept) currently
in R&D by Arrow Dynamics of Clearfield, UT.  While it's similar to the
TOGO in that the cars ride between the rails, in stead of on top of 
them, the pipeline is very different than what the UT has to offer.
The Pipeline will feature a larger circuit than the UT, and will only
go forward.  The Pipeline will also feature 5-car, 4-passenger trains.
The UT runs single 4 passenger cars on it's rails.


Just some clarification on the differences between the TOGO Ultra Twister
and the Arrow Pipeline.

B.
From: ewk@marlin.micro.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Six Flags--which one?
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:53:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.1992Apr13.195346.3265
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis: Under Grad Workstation Lab.

In <cee1.702587168@Isis.MsState.Edu> cee1@ra.msstate.edu (Charles Evans) writes:

>buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com writes:

>>The complete list:

>>SF Astroworld -- Houston, TX
>>SF over Georgia -- Atlanta, GA
>>SF Great Adventure -- Jackson, NJ
>>SF Great America -- Gurnee, IL
>>SF Magic Mountain -- Valencia, CA
>>SF over Mid-America -- St. Louis, MO
>>SF over Texas -- Arlington, TX
>Nope, SF over Texas is right between Dallas and Fort Worth.

It's right across the street from Arlington Stadium...

>Charles E. Evans           /  o     / Whereforeseeingwealsoarecompassedabout
>cee1@ra.msstate.edu       / ./|\   / withsogreatacloudofwitnesses,letuslayaside
>cee1@isis.msstate.edu    /   /|'  / everyweight,andthesindothsoeasilybesetus,
>cee1@msstate.bitnet     /    , ' / andletusRUNwithpatiencetheracethatissetB4us.
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
From: Dale English@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Drachen Fire
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:10:37 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In  <12518@umd5.umd.edu>  jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka) writes:
>
> Which brings the topic around to the Big Bad Wolf, which I finally got to
> ride today (last time I was at the park, it was shut down).  This was the
> first time I'd been on a suspended coaster, and it was totally cool.  I
> kind of wish it was longer and taller, but I'll settle for what I can get.
> What is the current feeling on suspended coasters?  Are parks interested
> in them?  Or is it just a novelty?
>
> Jeff

Well, it seems that a suspended coaster is a hit-or-miss proposition.
For instance, the Big Bad Wolf at Busch Gardens and the Vortex at Canada's
Wonderland are really great rides, while XLR-8 at Astroworld and Iron Dragon
at Cedar Point have the reputation of being slow.  I don't know too much about
the Ninja at Magic Mountain, so if anyone has some reviews, I'd love to hear
them.

Dale English
From: 446townsend@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Complete list of parks & coasters?
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:30:45 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Apr14.212126.3827@gw.wmich.edu>, x90townsen12@gw.wmich.edu writes:
> Can anyone send me a list of amusement parks and the roller-coasters (or
> at least the best ones!) at each park in the United States?  Even a list
> of parks and coasters in the midwest would be greatly appreciated since
> I'm from Michigan.  I've been to several parks in the area but I would
> like to know what I'm missing!  Please send me mail!  Thanks.
> 
> T H E  /////  ///// ////// /////     ///// ////// ///// /////   // // //
>       //  // //      //   //        //      //   //    //  //  // // //
>      /////  ////    //   ////  /// /////   //   ////  /////   // // //
>     //     //      //   //           //   //   //    //  //          
>    //     /////   //   /////     /////   //   ///// //   // // // //

I just found out about the FAQ listing and that's about all the info I could
ask for, thanks Dave!
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
From: cumminje@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu (James Cummings)
Subject: Re: King's Island
Reply-To: cumminje@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 00:29:59 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.142702.1066@ucbeh.san.uc.edu>  
rettigca@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
> Flight Commander was the ride that the woman fell out of and died. She  
wasn't
> the only person to die that day in the park either. A security guard  
that I 
> knew was killed in a lake that was electrified by a fixture in its  
bottom. He
> was trying to save a person who fell in and was killed as well.
> 
The person who originally fell in did not die. It was another man that had  
jumped in to save him and the security guard who died.

James
From: koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us (Louis Koziarz)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: SFGA (Gurnee,IL) Announces the new ride!!
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:14:33 GMT
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX

>The question I have is what is Six Flags going to do with
>the ride once the Batman fad dies down again?  What happens if Batman suffers
>"sequel syndrome" and bombs?  How many times can you revive this dead horse?

SFGA has done this before with the 'Turn of the Century', which was a
double-corkscrew metal coaster that was an original fixture when the park
opened in 1976.  Crowds gave it up for the Tidal Wave (single loop shuttle
coaster), so SFGA added two vertical loops and tons of fake-plaster rocks and
now calls it 'The Demon'.  Used to have a hokey theme song that numbed your
mind as you waited in line, but that's another story.

SFGA Trivia: What was the original name of 'The Whizzer'?

Speaking of Tidal Wave, can that gentleman from Teledyne confirm that
this coaster is actually gone?  I work a few miles from Gurnee (Abbott Park),
but haven't had a chance to get up that way in a while.  I'd really miss that
coaster...

-- 
Louis Koziarz
koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us
From: mjh@cs.utexas.edu (Michael J. Hall)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Info wanted on Texas Amusement Parks
Date: 7 Apr 1992 15:55:58 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Well, realize that Fiesta Tx is a music theme park, rather than a full-
blown white knuckle amusement park.  you must go there though to
experience the 18 story, 60 degree drop of the Rattler.  It loosens
up during the day and might be running fastest at night (it was for
me).  As mentioned in previous posts, the laser animation show there
is FANTASIC!  this is at park closing time (around 9pm).  See my earlier
posts about Fiesta Tx and the Rattler.

Bring lots of $$!  The park features cheap souveniers but also expensive
imports from Germany, like clocks and music boxes, etc.
From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Drachen Fire
Date: 15 Apr 92 02:02:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park

In article <370@bcco.UUCP> dave@bcco.UUCP (David Rounds) writes:

>There are two terms in this post that are not in the FAQ definitions--
>What is a "Batwing" and a "cutback"

The batwing is a double-inversion that I've always thought of as a pretzel
sort of thing.  You go up as if you're entering a loop, but just after you
go upside down, the track curves to the side, then enters another loop
before bringing you back toward the ground.  I'd try to do an ascii 
representation, but I just can't seem to get it to work in only 2-D.

I dunno how common this element is, or what other names it has, but I've
been on 'em on the Drachen Fire, the Vortex (Kings Island) and the Tidal
Wave (Ocean City, MD), aka the vekoma boomerang.  They're a lot of fun...

Cutback?  Does this refer to the type of inversion (it's a _weird_ one) or
does it merely refer to the fact that this is where the track makes a U turn
before heading back toward the station?  Enquiring minds...;-)

Jeff
From: dave@bcco.UUCP (David Rounds)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Drachen Fire
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:36:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Barber-Colman Company

Dale English@watson.ibm.com writes:

: which gives the exhiliration of flying!  The batwing is glassy smooth and
: delightfully disorienting! Next comes a single corkscrew that sets up for the
: cutback element.  Decapitation appears immenant heading into the cutback.
: 
: Dale "Drachen Fire" English

There are two terms in this post that are not in the FAQ definitions--
What is a "Batwing" and a "cutback"

Sorry about posting but the address as decoded by tin in all of the postings
from Dale is not acceptable to X-Mailer program.

Dave
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From: KROBINSO@kentvm.kent.edu) (Kara k)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Phantom at Kennywood
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:47:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: kentvm.167C397CD.KROBINSO
Organization: Kent State Univ.

Hi,  I just saw an article about the Steel Phantom coaster at Kennywood.
Can anyone tell me if it is awesome as it sounds?  Will it be worth the
drive to PA?  Thanks.
From: rettigca@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: King's Island
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:27:02 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

Flight Commander was the ride that the woman fell out of and died. She wasn't
the only person to die that day in the park either. A security guard that I 
knew was killed in a lake that was electrified by a fixture in its bottom. He
was trying to save a person who fell in and was killed as well.

Anyway the park has had a total of about 10 such accidents, but not all were
deaths. Things like King Cobra disrailing. A good track record (no pun
intended) for 20 years.

On the lighter note though, as I mentioned it is the park's 20th year and they
plan on celebrating by bringing in celebrities and the like. Parades every day
or something like it. No word though on any officially planned events....
From: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Six Flags--which one?
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:40:08 GMT
Reply-To: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Charles E. Evans writes:

>>SF over Texas -- Arlington, TX

>Nope, SF over Texas is right between Dallas and Fort Worth.

Exactly, in Arlington, TX.


Buck, trying to avoid net confusion
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:12:15 -0400 
From: Gregory James Legowski <gl11+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Drachen Fire
Distribution: usa

In article <12560@umd5.umd.edu>, jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka)
writes:
>In article <370@bcco.UUCP> dave@bcco.UUCP (David Rounds) writes:
> 
>>There are two terms in this post that are not in the FAQ definitions--
>>What is a "Batwing" and a "cutback"
> 
>The batwing is a double-inversion that I've always thought of as a pretzel
>sort of thing.  You go up as if you're entering a loop, but just after you
>go upside down, the track curves to the side, then enters another loop
>before bringing you back toward the ground.  I'd try to do an ascii 
>representation, but I just can't seem to get it to work in only 2-D.
> 
>I dunno how common this element is, or what other names it has, but I've
>been on 'em on the Drachen Fire, the Vortex (Kings Island) and the Tidal
>Wave (Ocean City, MD), aka the vekoma boomerang.  They're a lot of fun...

I've always heard this element referred to as just a "boomerang".  The
Steel Phantom at Kennywood has one, too.  Almost overkill -- the
(current) world's fastest coaster/longest drop AND 4 inversions
(vertical loop, boomerang, and single-twist corkscrew...)

You're right, they're a lot of fun whatever you call them... :-)


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             Cthulhu in '92!  Why vote for the LESSER evil?
From: nederost@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Tom Nederost)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 14:55:54 GMT
Subject: Re: Kansas City Park Stuff..
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster


I haven't heard of any new attractions at Worlds of Fun for '92.

I also haven't heard ANYTHING about a new MGM/UA theme park in Kansas.
I'm pretty good about reading Amusement Business, Inside Track, Fun World,
and the new Theme Park magazine and I can't remember any mention of a
new park being built in Kansas.

While Kansas City would be a logical location for a theme park based on
"The Wizard of OZ," I don't think the population of metro Kansas City
could support a $350 million dollar park.

There is/was a small park in Banner Elk, SC based on "The Wizard of OZ."
I've never been there and don't know if it's still around, but I remember
seeing an article about it several years ago.  It even had a real
yellow brick road!

Tom
nederost@hpcc01.corp.hp.com