HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: wolfgang@netcom.com (Wolfgang Henke)
Subject: Re: Speed tests on the Supra v.32bis modem
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 06:27:04 GMT
Organization: Netcom

isca@icaen.uiowa.edu (Iowa Student Computer Assoc) writes:
: 
:   The bottom line of the testing was that the Supra did well on compression
: but did very poorly on latency testing.  So the modem would be fine for 
: downloading and general interative stuff, but not as good for things like
: SLIP or X-remote.  

Thanks for the tests. We sure save them around here..

What, I wonder, is the reason for modem latency ?  I suspect that it has
something to do with the scrambler, which is used to randomise the data before
the modulation since otherwise the modulation does not seem to work as
reliably.

Are there other or better reasons? And how would one go about reducing the
latency?

A related question is how much difference would it make to use CSLIP instead
of SLIP? 

Also is there a correlation between chipsets and latency? The ZyXEL seems 
to do OK with a Motorola DSP and I believe a 68000, but the Supra, based on 
the Rockwell set is doing not so well. Is the T3000 based on a DSP?
How about the Digicom?



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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: mikhe@sisters.cs.uoregon.edu (Mike Henry)
Subject: Re: SupraFAX/Modem v.32bis recipients (really: NeXT)
Keywords: supra v.32bis modem
Organization: /local/lib/rn/organization
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 01:07:59 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.183714.9480@Princeton.EDU> amlovell@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Anthony M Lovell) writes:
>
>  Does anyone have any idea how best I can use this modem (when mine
>arrives) with a NeXT cube?  I got mine ordered thru Mr Hardware, so it

Just hook it up, preferably with a cable configured as per the NeXT Users
Reference. I got mine a couple of weeks ago and running SLIP over it just
blows me away!!

>amlovell@phoenix.princeton.edu     ...since 1963.

Good Luck and have fun!

		-Mike
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From: bergstr@ssdc.honeywell.com (Darryl A. Bergstrom)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: Netfax
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:29:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: ssdc.1992Apr6.142958.14183
Organization: Sensor & System Development Center

Hmm...  you should try to locate [x]archie

% archie netfax

Host burgundy.nectar.cs.cmu.edu

    Location: /readmes/readmes.untared/ca/bc/wimsey/van-bc/pub
      DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Feb 16 23:21  netfax

Host cs.dal.ca

    Location: /pub/comp.archives
      DIRECTORY drwxrwxrwx        512  May 13 1991  netfax

Host isfs.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp

    Location: /ftpmail/ftp.ricoh.co.jp/pub/hosts/transit.ai.mit.edu/systems
      DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Mar 10 18:01  netfax

Host nic.funet.fi

    Location: /pub/unix/comm
      DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        512  Jul  2 1991  netfax

Host reseq.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de

    Location: /informatik.public/communication
      DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        512  Jun  4 1991  netfax

Host srawgw.sra.co.jp

    Location: /.a/sranha-bp/arch/arch/comp.archives/dcom/fax
      DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  May 13 1991  netfax
    Location: /.a/sranha-bp/arch/arch/comp.archives
      DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Nov 30 1990  netfax

Host src.doc.ic.ac.uk

    Location: /usenet/comp.archives/dcom/fax
      DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  May 14 1991  netfax
    Location: /usenet/comp.archives
      DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  May  3 1991  netfax

Host stubbs.ucop.edu

    Location: /pub
      DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Jan 17 08:56  netfax

Host transit.ai.mit.edu

    Location: /pub/systems
      DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        512  Dec 19 03:08  netfax

Host trix.ai.mit.edu

    Location: /systems
      DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        512  Feb  2 21:47  netfax

Host van-bc.wimsey.bc.ca

    Location: /pub
      DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        128  Oct 31 00:05  netfax

Host walhalla.germany.eu.net

    Location: /pub/mail
      DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        512  Aug 16 1991  netfax



Darryl Bergstrom   Apollo/Symbolics/News/Mail Administrator 
Honeywell SRC/SSDC IS Minneapolis, MN 
bergstr@ssdc.honeywell.com 

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He who knows not and knows not he knows not, he is a fool, shun him;
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From: traub@rtf.bt.co.uk (Michael Traub)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Telebit Loyalty pays
Date: 13 Apr 92 08:26:28 GMT
Organization: BT Customer Systems, Brighton, UK

In article <i4g5iB1w164w@dadstoy.uucp> zatar@dadstoy.uucp (Terry Stockdale) writes:
>traub@rtf.bt.co.uk (Michael Traub) writes:
>
>> In article <1992Apr10.191241.23027@news.eng.convex.com> datri@convex.com (Ant
>> >
>> >>And if you aren't an American you can't possibly be loyal so you will
>> >>have to pay up as well.
>> >
>> >Your government is not our fault.
>> 
>> What pray tell has governments got to do with it?
>> 
>Simply that the T3000 has yet to be certified, or is in the process of being 
>certified, for use in the UK.  This was discussed back when the original LP 
>program came up.  Anyway, until it is, the T3000 can't be legally sold for 
>use with UK phone systems.
>
I wonder how many times this has to be stated before it gets through. The
T3000 (and any other non BABT approved) modem can legally be sold in the
UK. There are many companies in the UK selling non-approved modems, the
fact that it is illegal to connect the modem to the phone system doesn't
make the act of selling the modem illegal. Got it now?




-- 
Michael Traub
BT Customer Systems, Brighton Systems Centre. traub@rtf.bt.co.uk
From: Heribert_Otten@k2.maus.de (Heribert Otten)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: ZyXEL
Date: 17 Apr 92 02:18:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.05/beta

In a message of Di, 14.04.92  hwr@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org wrote:
h>Heribert_Otten@k2.maus.de (Heribert Otten) writes:
h>>In a message of Do, 09.04.92  rlcarr@animato.uucp wrote:
h>
h>>r>(2) Can they initiate and respond to retrains both faster and slower?
h>>i can't help you on your first questions, but (2) would be interesting to
h>know
h>
h>Here the manual says:
h>
h>*Q0     No response to poor signal quality
h>*Q1     Retain action taken if signal quality is poor
h>*Q2     Adaptive rate; auto fallback or fall forward (Default)
h>*Q3     Disconnect for poor quality signal.

I read that to. ;-)

But in ROM V.4.06 ZyXEL announced a "improvement" of fall forward.

What did they change? Does it work in earlier versions? I still use V.4.02
because i had no problems with it, since last week, when my line got noisier
than usual. 8-(

BTW, what happens if my modem wants to initiate a fallback, but the other
modem won't agree with that, or isn't configured for fallback but retrain?

Heribert (heribert_otten@k2.maus.de)
From: Petty@ralvm29.VNET.IBM.COM (Jack Petty)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Help Needed with IBM 5853 modem
Date: 6 Apr 92 10:20:03 GMT
Organization: The Internet

In <1992Apr03.205600.14057@spike.insci.com> Ross Andrus writes:
>
>  I've got to use an IBM 5853 modem for some arcane purposes, and I need
>  to cause it to pause during dialing, exactly the way you would use ','
>  with a Hayes-compatible.
>
You did not specify what sort of arcane purpose so...

If you are using the AT command set, the ',' dial string parameter should
work.  If you are using the IBM command set, then a W in the dial string
should produce a 2 second pause.  If you are using the V.25 bis command
set, then '<' should produce a 1 second pause and '=' in the dial
string should produce a 3 second pause.
I guess you don't have a user's guide for the 5853?
Jack Petty
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Does Zyxel have Caller ID and Voice Messaging?
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:38:45 GMT
Organization: PANIX - Public Access Unix Systems of NY

In article <WBE.92Apr13201927@crystal.bbn.com> wbe@bbn.com (Winston Edmond) writes:
>umduddr0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Brendan Duddridge) asks:
>
>I believe the current ZyXEL modems are not capable of supporting either
>Caller ID or digitized voice, and I've not heard of any claims or plans to
>support those features.  I'd be happy to hear any reliable information saying
>they could or would be done, though.   :-)

The CLID roms are presently in alpha test. I am not aware of any plans for
digitized voice support, although the engineers were talking about
selective ring support as a future enhancement.




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From: larry@news.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: sz and rz in UNIX
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:50:50 GMT
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site (219)289-0777

rick@ricksys.LoneStar.org (Richard McCombs) writes:

>Of course most people don't think ZCOMM is user-friendly enough.

kinda like most dos users feel about unix, eh?

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: fabrice@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Fabrice Le Metayer)
Subject: Reading list on modems/serial connections
Keywords: modem, serial, paper, book, reading, document
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:07:49 GMT

After trying to find good literature on modem specifications, protocols,
compression algorithms and serial lines, I decided to ask this group if
they could post their favorite reference books or technical papers.

With a little luck, we could come up with a list of documents worth
reading for who wants to know more about the ins and outs of serial
line datacomms. I am personally a novice and would certainly like some
good pointers.

So, fire away.

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From: eudoh@ST6000.SCT.EDU (Etop Udoh)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Apartment management/accounting software
Date: 5 Apr 92 17:48:35 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


hi,

   Excuse my intrusion, but I have but a single question/request....

   I'm looking for information on Prewritten apartment management or
  accounting software....
       thank you

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From: jmarin@messi.uku.fi (Jukka Marin)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Supra V.32bis FAXmodem
Date: 7 Apr 92 05:53:55 GMT
Organization: University of Kuopio, Finland

In article <1992Apr5.200449.12533@eskimo.celestial.com> irving@eskimo.celestial.com (Larry Gilbert) writes:
>A recent Supra advertisement for this modem lists "Class 1 and 2 commands,
>and compatibility with the millions of Group 3 fax machines in use" among
>the modem's features.  To me, this says "Our modem only does Group 2 fax."
>But perhaps I'm wrong.  Perhaps (though this is a slightly silly thought)
>the Canon machine is not a Group 3 fax machine, and thus is incompatible.

DOn't know about this.  Anyway, I have been sending FAX messages to
several places all around the world and there's still one Canon FAX
that I can't send to and a few that don't always handshake with Supra
very well.  Others work just fine (over 50%, that is).

>Maybe someone who owns one of these new puppies and has experience with fax
>communications can shed some light on all of this.  I'm interested in up-
>grading my own Supra 2400 external, but I'm waiting for further word on this
>and the busy signal detect problem.

The busy signal detection has worked fine for me.  My Supra even recognizes
the different signals used at least here in Finland in addition to those
used in England and Australia.  I haven't tried sending FAXes to the US
yet, though.

>Aha.  There's a thought...  Maybe the busy signal bug is preventing your modem
>from connecting when dialing out?

No.  The remote FAX machine or modem does answer the call and the devices
make some funny sounds trying to handshake.  Sometimes they just go on and
on until Supra hangs up.  Once or twice the Supra has hang up very soon
after the first handshake attempt (which was pretty weird).

>-- 
>Larry Gilbert ... irving@eskimo.celestial.com (or irving@well.sf.ca.us)
>"She really took you apart, didn't she, Charlie Brown?"
>"Uh huh . . . step by step, verse by verse, and line by line . . ."
>"You sound like a victim of higher criticism!"

Jukka Marin
jmarin@messi.uku.fi
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 21:07:19 EDT
From: <AES109@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Are 16550'a pin compatible with 16450's?
 <sxrjr_d.gerg@netcom.com> <jb86cio@sgi.sgi.com>

In article <jb86cio@sgi.sgi.com>, vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
says:

>> But there were a few out there that had receive routines that kept reading
>> from the UART until the UART told them to stop.  Those ones did benefit
>> when an outside program enabled the buffers for them.  Even though they
>> didn't have any 16550-specific code.


>Again, are you absolutely certain of this?

>My National Data sheet strongly implies that that the FIFOs are bypassed in
>16450 mode, which means that a 16550A is EXACTLY like a 16450.  If the
>FIFOs were on while in 16450 mode, common and obvious 16450 software would
>break.  Such software WOULD NOT WORK, albeit in subtle and uncommon ways.

Well, there's only one difference in 16550 mode (but it's a nasty one):
A couple bits (6 and 7 I think) are set in an interrupt register to
indicate "FIFO enabled". This will indeed cause problems if the interrupt
routine doesn't mask them out (or otherwise ignore them). Otherwise,
16550 mode is identical to 16450 mode (with enabled FIFOs). A hardware
time-out will drain the read FIFO as needed, so that isn't a problem.
From: SMITHBS@PURCCVM.BITNET (Barry Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Supra vs. Twincom 14.4 vs. Dallas Fax vs. ...
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:57:02 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

Does anyone have any comparisons between the following modems:

Supra
Twincom 14.4 DF
LightCom 96
Dallas Fax

They all seem to be around the same price range with the same set of
features.  Some people are soured on the Supra with Mac's, but what about
in general?  Also, how much do each of these modems go for mail order?

Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri)
Subject: Re: UDS mystery modem
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 20:50:16 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

>Yeah, but it's great for  filing your taxes and Medicare reports...

Except that the IRS doesn't allow online filing of tax reports.  You have to
take it to some clown service and pay them to do it.

-- 


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From: geoff@zswamp.UUCP (Geoffrey Welsh)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: MNP-Emulation
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 20:44:17 EDT
Organization: Izot's Swamp

Heribert_Otten@k2.maus.de (Heribert Otten) writes:

> Someone asked me about software-emulation of MNP4 and MNP5, but i couldn't
> help him ... yet, i hope. ;-)
> 
> How does it work?

   Same way it works in the modem, more or less.

> I have no idea how it should, especially MNP4. What about async -> sync
> conversion?

   Async -> sync conversion is MNP3.  Software MNP emulation uses MNP2 as a 
base (and therefore doesn't offer the throughput advantage of MNP3) and adds 
MNP4 (larger blocks) and MNP5 (data compression) on top of that.  If the data 
is compressable, you end up ahead of the game.

> If it's only compression, you should do better with LHarc or so.

   That's quite correct.

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From: rlcarr@athena.mit.edu (Richard L. Carreiro)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: ZyXEL price and source
Summary: what and where?
Date: 7 Apr 92 02:39:11 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Digitopolitan Embassy to the US

Can anyone tell me who is selling ZyXEL modems and what the prices
are on the U1496 and U1496E?

Some friends of mine are getting together a group order for the
SUpraFAXmodem soon, and before I decide on that, I want to know
about the ZyXEL, so I need this info fast.

Please *email*, I will summarize to the net.

Greatly thanking you all in advance!


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From: dhoerl@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (david.f.hoerl)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Where is doc on Sealink protocol?
Keywords: SeaLink
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:07:36 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Would some kind person point me to a site (and a path) to a document
describing the Sealink protocol? Please reply directly to me. Thanks.

David Hoerl
AT&T Bell Labs

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: ctan@solomon.technet.sg (Tan Chee Weei)
Subject: Re: Loyalty Pays Again and PEP upgrade?
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 08:23:45 GMT

williams@gamma.is.tcu.edu (williams@gamma.is.tcu.edu) writes:
: km@mathcs.emory.edu (Ken Mandelberg) writes:
: 
: >The Telebit posting describing Loyalty Pays Again didn't say anything
: >about PEP for the T3000's in the offering. Anyone know if its
: >included?
: 
: 	I took the initiative to ask Telebit just this question. The simple
: 	answer is NO, the free PEP upgrade offered under Loyalty Pays is
: 	*not* included in the T3000 purchases under LPA. Nor is the discount
: 	upgrade to PEP.

Does this also mean that any free or discounted PEP upgrade is meant ONLY for
T3000s purchased under Loyalty Pays (NOT LPA), which implies that if one had 
purchased a T3000 from a dealer before Mar 31, one would not only have 
ended up paying more but also DOES NOT qualify for a free or discounted 
upgrade?  If this is really the case, it doesn't seem fair, does it?

CW
From: catone@drachma.wharton.upenn.edu (Tony Catone)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: DOS telecomm prelim. I like XTALK for Windows
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:06:08 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
In-reply-to: rfarris@rfengr.com's message of 12 Apr 92 19:07:52 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.190752.5357@rfengr.com> rfarris@rfengr.com (Rick Farris) writes:

   I found ProComm to have the best emulation capabilities
   (still poor, as you noted) of the PD/shareware packages.

ProComm Plus 2.0 has excellent terminal emulation, on a par with MS
Kermit's.  I don't think it is fair to criticize obsolete programs
just because one is too cheap to buy the real version.


- Tony
  catone@dmark.wharton.upenn.edu
From: Jay.Ashworth@f160.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jay Ashworth)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Info Wanted: Dallas FAX 2496VC
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 22:26:00 EDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3603/160 - Hacker's Haven, Clearwater FL

As the subject line indicates, I'm looking for _informed_ input on the Dallas Fax 2496VC multi-purpose communications card.  This is the one with v.22bis/v.42/v.42bis/MNP5 data, G3 9600bps fax, Voice, and CNID decoding.

If you _have_ one of these modems, and can spare me some time to drop me netmail, I'd much appreciate it.  I'll summarize, etc...

I'm interested in hardware reliability, interoperability, software quality, quality of customer service, and all the other obvious stuff I should want to know.

If you've just _heard_ stories, well...  alt.folklore.{computers,urban} are down the hall, third (and fourth) doors on the right... :-)

Mail to jra%acorn@tct.com, please.

Cheers,
-- jra

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From: rogerk@Veritas.COM (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,biz.comp.telebit
Subject: Re: Loyalty Pays Again and PEP upgrade?
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:52:54 GMT
Organization: VERITAS Software

In article <VacuiB1w164w@dadstoy.uucp> zatar@dadstoy.uucp (Terry Stockdale) writes:
>Someone posted earlier that the serial numbers used in the LP program were 
>usable in the LPA program also.  If so, that's a neat way to leverage one 
>Tbit into four Tbits.  Wonder if it's true...

I got it right from the Telbit saleshorse's mouth...
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From: Christoph_Bregulla@k2.maus.de (Christoph Bregulla)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Supra's BBS
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:02:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.04

r>Oh, and does anyone of you know a cheap dealer in Germany for the Supra-
r>FAXModem? (Cheapest I found so far is Solaris in Koeln, DM 799,-)

I know a dealer who is cheaper...  Also in Cologne: 745.- ;-)


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