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From: 01ksdavis@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: I DID giev up on the Amiga!
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:41:19 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.062719.16063@athena.mit.edu>, fihsu@athena.mit.edu (Hsu I-wei) writes:
> In article <mykes.09pe@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:
>>In article <33215@cbmvax.commodore.com> daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
>>> In article <mykes.09ag@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:
>>>
>>> >Now for the really sad part:  How many machines (models) has apple released
>>> >this year?
>>>
>>> Apple came out with a new Quadra this year.  Those, and the laptops, were
>>> reasonably interesting.  Things like LCs and Classics are just powered down
>>> rehashes of old Mac IIs.
>>>
>>
>>Would anyone else out there in AmigaLand like an Amiga laptop?  How about 2
>>or 3 models to choose from?  How about a powered down A3000 (as much power
>>as the Mac IIs at the same price)?
> 
> Um..  the IIsi (3M RAM, 40MB HD) educational is $1895.  With the C= $500
> rebate in combination with educ. pricing, the A3000 25/50 is $2047.  I imagine
> that the A3000 16/40, if it still exists, is as cheap or cheaper.  By the
> way, that IIsi doesn't come with a keyboard.  :)  A powered down 3000 is
> highly desireable, and I pray NOT at the same price as the Mac IIs.
> 
> As for your other questions, no I don't particularly care for a laptop of any
> kind.  But yes, it would be nice for others out there if C= came out with one!
> 
>>> >Why has Apple and NeXt come out with 040 based machine months and months ago
>>> >while there is no 040 Amiga.
>>>
>>> Marketing.  Apple and NeXT required it, C= marketing decided for the moment
>>> that the 3rd parties were doing the job.
>>>
>>
>>Fools.
> 
> They are, aren't they..  :|
> 
>> [UNIX debate deleted  :)]
>>
>>> --
>>> Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests"
>>>    {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh      BIX: hazy
>>> 	"Work like a horse, drink like a fish"	- Psychefunkapus
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Amiga programmer of: GRn, MailMinder, Budokan, Beyond Dark Castle, Dark Castle
>>Sega Genesis programmer of: Dick Tracy and Marble Madness.
>>Mike Schwartz  (ames!zorch!amiga0!mykes or mykes@amiga0.sf-bay.org)
>>1124 Fremont Ave.
>>Los Altos, CA 94024
>>
> 
> Francis
	Don't forget the final cost of anything though.  How does Macintosh or
IBM software generally compare to Amiga software?  It's been my experience that
Amiga software is much cheaper, is better quality, and is easier to use.

	Just my two cents worth.  Speaking of cash-has any Mac owner found a
cosigner to purchase PageMaker 4.2?  :)
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From: gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington)
Subject: Re: PeeCees are kludge after kludge after kludge. What total shit.
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:29:01 GMT

tony@ais.org (Tony Poole) writes:
>hawk@pnet01.cts.com (John Anderson) writes:
>>Oh! Dan Stephenson's gonna eat this one up!                                  
>>                                                                             
>>btw, I don't recall asking for your opinion                                  
>
>BFD, I gave it to you.  Who asked for your opinion or voice on ANYTHING?
>
>Why don't you just give it a rest???  Please?
>
>I put you in my kill file, but I still end up reading your crap through
>follow-ups.  What do you think you are proving by playing Mr. Broken Record?

Heh, the infamous kill-file strategy.  This means you can call someone
rude names, and the person will not know where it is coming from...

-- Gerald
From: u2112539@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Problems with POST printing
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:54:22 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales


	I have Post and have a few problems with it. ie, it works great with
.EPS and postcrypt when it comes to screen viewing, but when I try to print
I get a third of the page fed through the printer and stop. Screen and printer
gives the same result nothing shows up on screen. I can't render them to .iff
either. I have an EPSON LQ500 an A3000 with 6 megs WB 2.05. Just earlyer I
managed to print the last two lines of a .EPS that I output from DynaCadd, it
seemed to have drawn the image way above the  A4 page and only a little showed
up on screen. I used a very low printer res but I can't see how I can run out
of mem with 6megs #$@%$# Also I managed to printer a letter were it couldn't 
find the font and replaced it with the round fonts. I know init.ps is pointing
to the corect font directory because screen rep works fine and .EPS don't have
any fonts anyway and the printer is acceseble because it can print the default
(circle) font but that 1/3 page feed for every page drives me nuts.
	Please help
		George T.
From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Commodore Address!
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:21:40 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <1992Jul29.023135.4050@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams) writes:
 >In article <1992Jul28.134106.28598@ccu.umanitoba.ca> remilld@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jason Remillard) writes:
 >>    Please don't flame me, I got burnt to a crisp in a posting that I made in 
 >>comp.os.os2.advocacy. (Called, "OS/2 and Windows?  Give em the punt!")
 >> Take a look at it.  I woulda done all of you Amigaphiles proud!!
 >
 >I really doubt you did do us proud.  Amiga owners get enough flames as
 >it is for their attitude towards other machines.  Going to the newsgroups
 >of another system and flaming them, whilst praising the Amiga, won't
 >get Amiga owners, or the Amiga, any respect.

Yeah. Only look at the impressions several PC dudes here cause and destroy
any reputation the users of such machines else may deserve. There are even
guys among them who admit they saw Amigas only with some demos running,
nothing else, and who still mean they can judge that other platforms
are superior to the Amiga! What idiots...

-- 
Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel  // E-Mail to \\  Only my personal opinions...
Commodore Frankfurt, Germany  \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
				   or  peterk@public.sub.org
From: hawk@pnet01.cts.com (John Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: PeeCees?!? AAAAAAAAAAAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:16:08 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet01], El Cajon CA


>>I don't think A500 and 386 system have roughly the same price. For the      
>>price of A500, you just can get the 386 mother board unless you buy it      
>>as second hand. However, A500 has already had 4096 colors, 4 channels 8     
>>bit sound, all external port, floppy drive, mouse...                        
                                                                              
>Last I seen, a 386-40 was $199.00 m/b w/cpu and a SX20 was $106.00.  And     
>a 24-Bit card (DIAMOND SPEEDSTAR 24, 16.7 million colors at 640x480 and      
>32000 at 800x600 etc...) was $159.00.                                        
                                                                              
Ok, you wanna play the hack-it-together motherboard game? Let's see here...   
I can get a 68000 motherboard (not quite a 386, but compares to a 286, but    
then again you said SX so it's the 16 bit MAJOR SLOWDOWN model) for $99.95.   
Comes with built in 4096 color graphics, serial port, parallel port, stereo   
sound, custom graphics chip, custom audio chip and is the design of a bunch   
of "true" hackers, not the kludgey kind.                                      
                                                                              
>>If you can buy AdSpeed,($149 from Montgomery, new) you will have the        
>>power of low end 386 system.                                                
                                                                              
>AdSpeed, thats the accelerator which contains the 68000-16 right?  If that's 
>right than what your saying is that a 68000-16 is the speed of a 68030-16    
>right?Which a 030-16 is comparable to a 386SX20 running windows 3.0 (Mac ads)
                                                                              
Mac ads say that a 16MHz 68030 is the same speed as 20MHz 80386SX? SX? The    
16 bit kludge?? You've *got* to be kidding. Anyway, like the man says you can 
get the adspeed for $150. Add that to the $100 and you have $250 for a 16MHz  
68000 machine which includes color graphics, serial port, and parallel port.  
 
btw, the motheboard price came from an ad in AmigaWhirled from the Grapevine
Group.

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From: bmccnnll@unix1.tcd.ie (Barry McConnell)
Subject: Re: I DID giev up on the Amiga!
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 17:24:55 GMT

In <1992Jul23.162026.7775@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:

>For instance, why is it that, in the Amiga's entire seven-year history, only
>*ONE* Amiga has ever been produced that has anything other than a 68000 on
>the motherboard?  Compare this to the number of Macintoshes that have been
>developed by Apple that have '020s, '030s, or '040s on the motherboard.

At least the one Amiga that has a non-68000 on the motherboard has been
designed correctly. Too many Macs have 32-bit processors and 16-bit memory.
Apple are advertising their '020 Macs as "Twice as fast as a Mac SE!" - 
given 32-bit RAM, they could double that claim.

Ever tried using a Mac Classic running System 7? I swear it was FAR slower
than an Amiga 500+ - even in 2 colours with that tiny screen. The multitasking
was too unresponsive to be useful. If that is what *Apple* can come out
with after - what - seven years? - then C= aren't in too bad form. At least
they can design (almost) useable 68000-based machines that run the latest OS
reasonably well.

>what is the ratio of Amigas with 24-bit palettes and 8-bit graphics on the
>motherboard to Macintoshes with 24-bit palettes and 8-bit graphics on the
>motherboard?  

The vast majority of Macs do not have colour. Very few of the models (one?
two?) have it on the motherboard. I am working this summer in a company that
sells Macs - they have four '030-based Macs (two IIcx's, a IIsi, and an
LC2) in the office, and only *one* has colour (the rest have Portrait 
Displays - 640*960 I think). Cost was NOT a problem when buying these Macs -
the fact is, colour is not needed for what we do.

>Or, an even more basic question: what is the ratio of Amigas
>with built-in SCSI controllers to Macintoshes with built-in SCSI controllers?

Every single Mac has a built-in SCSI controller. Find yourself a GVP Combo
board or an A3000, and you've beaten the best Mac. We have DMA, they do not.
While a Mac is accessing the HD or network, you can forget about useable
multitasking.

>Finally, what is the ratio of notebook Amigas to notebook Macintoshes?

Zero. ;-)

>   I've been waiting for SEVEN YEARS.  *TODAY* is the SEVENTH ANNIVERSARY of
>the introduction of the Amiga 1000, and there are still absolutely no Amigas
>whatsoever that have better sound or color capabilities than the Amiga 1000.

Yes there are. Ask anyone with a DMI Resolver, an IVideo-24, HAM-E etc. etc.
Many of these Amiga graphics cards are so classy, they will leave any Mac
lying in the dust.

WHO CARES IF IT ISN'T ON THE MOTHERBOARD? Neither are any Mac graphics cards.
The OS just happens to support them better. If you want to paint in 24-bit
colour, buy a 24-bit colour card. I don't want more than four colours (for
my DevPac screen :-) ), so I don't want the extra expense of buying an Amiga
with that feature.

>| Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu

Barry.
From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A50000 article
Date: 30 Jul 92 09:42:27 PST
Organization: TAP, NZAmigaUG

Quoted from <1992Jul29.081944.12237@srd.bt.co.uk> by jhawes@everest.srd.bt.co.uk (Jason Hawes):
> From article , by jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers):

    This next bit bears repeating...

> >     This K.X. Saunders must be thick as. Why on Earth do people post
> >     articles if they're not reading the newsgroups? And this idiot
> >     must not be reading the newsgroup, otherwise they'd have noticed
> >     this article has come through before...
> 
> Well today I've waded through some 500 postings that have arrived since
> friday (5 days) and I have to admit, I didn't read them all.
> Did you ?

    No. I see an article header before the body of the article, and in
    this newsgroup the usual reaction is 'n' for next. Based on the
    age of a thread, the poster's credibility (MB just took a hit with
    his garbage about VM being vapor because he couldn't buy it within
    the US - sheesh, how thick (and parochial) can one be), etc.

    However, the original round of this article, and the ensuing
    fanout of threads, would have been impossible to miss.

> Jaz.
--
*** John Bickers, TAP, NZAmigaUG.        jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz ***
***    "Radioactivity - It's in the air, for you and me" - Kraftwerk    ***
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett)
Subject: Re: Presidential predictions Re: Perot?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 15:58:07 GMT

In article <mykes.0a36@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:
>With Perot in the race, he gets 60% or more of Clinton's voters.  Note
>that the day after Perot "pulls out" Clinton's poll values more than
>doubled...  The tendancy to predict 30% for Perot indicates how much
>danger the democratic party is of becoming extinct in the next 20
>years or so.
>
>Also, I should point out that popular vote and electoral vote are two
>different things.  As it stands now, Bush has 210 electoral votes
>in the bag - but Perot would gain some of those by winning a state
>like California (he was well ahead in the polls here).  BTW, 270
>electoral votes are needed to win - Bush should get those easily.

   One of the election news programs (it might have been the one by CNN) 
mentioned that many states have laws that prevent non-candidates from being
on the ballot, including (I think) California.  Therefore we will know quite
soon how well Perot could possibly do in the election, were he to pull some
kind of 'October Surprise', because Perot will have to send letters to these
states officially declaring himself to be a candidate to keep his name on 
the ballot.  If he doesn't (the deadline for most such states is August 31),
he wouldn't have any possibility of winning, which would completely rule out
the 'October Surprise'.  

   One thing that I would like Bush to do is largely ignore Clinton and 
target his ads at Congress.  Put together ads that show snapshots of infamous
members of Congress such as Robert Byrd, Tom Foley, Howard Metzenbaum (sp),
and others (particularly congressmen who were caught with their pants down
in the recent scandals), and ask "Do you want a President who will cooperate
with these people?"  Though Clinton would not be shown or mentioned, the
implication would be that Clinton would actively seek out their support and
cooperation, which is the case.  I think something like this could easily
work, since the public seems to harber far greater anger toward Congress than
toward Bush.

>Amiga programmer of: GRn, MailMinder, Budokan, Beyond Dark Castle, Dark Castle
>Sega Genesis programmer of: Dick Tracy and Marble Madness.
>Mike Schwartz  (ames!zorch!amiga0!mykes or mykes@amiga0.sf-bay.org)
>1124 Fremont Ave.
>Los Altos, CA 94024

---
| Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
-----------------------------------------------------
"If you like Congress, you'll **LOVE** Bill Clinton."
                                --new campaign slogan
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From: catapcnl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Chris Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Atari Lynx and Gameboy
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 18:38:38 GMT

Distribution: World

In article <1992Jul25.180536.28397@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu  
(Jeff Young) writes:
:In article <1992Jul21.040253.19077@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> benw@cbnewsm.cb.att.com  
(bennett.weber) writes:
:>
:>Same here in New Jersey...Lynx software gets almost no shelf space
:>compared to Gameboy.  My wife works for Lionel Kiddie City (toy store
:>chain) and she says that the Gameboys sell like hotcakes, while the
:>Lynx sales are few and far between.
:
:I have not heard of Lionel store too but I am sure it is very
:good store.  If you wife work at Electronic Boutique, Good Guys,
:GameXpress, Game Dude, Video Games Japan.. she will SELL OUT
:of Lynxs!!
:
:>
:>Being the better system doesn't necessarily pay the bills...
:
:You forget Atari makes BEST GAMES too, so Nintendo Gameboy
:now ported Centipede, Missile command, Asterroids.. and Atari
:said they will make many millions of dollars from license
:of games!  So Gameboy sales will pay bills for Atari too!!
:
:

Is it just me, or do the rest of you think this guy is misinformed?  "Gameboy  
sales will pay bills for Atari too??"  Who the hell is guy????
--
Chris Lawrence
Pretender to the Throne; Destroyer of the Faith
-----------------------------------------------
"Giving money and power to politicians is like giving whiskey and car keys to  
teenage boys."
     - P. J. O'Rourke, "Parliament of Whores"
From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amiga AA chipset... inside info?
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 26 Jul 92 13:49:12 PST
Organization: Amiga makes it possible

In article <1992Jul25.215129.19893@cheshire.oxy.edu> leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt) writes:
> My hacker friend told me the following yesterday.
>
> 1.  There will be some sort of adapter board to make the current machines
> able to run the AA chipset.
>

No comment.

> 2.  There is a rumor about a 2 meg Agnus that allows you to get 2 meg of
> memory without the DKB megachip...
>

No comment.

> 3.  The version of OS 3 he's seen (kickstart 39.101) needs an '020 or
> better to run... which suggest that the next generation of low end
> computers is going to be minumum '030.

KS 39.whatever just might have a bug, just like those that some games
have, when run on an 030 (but in reverse).  Since CBM seems so much
more interested in selling A600 and A500 style computers, it would
be stupid to have an OS that didn't work on a 68000 (albeit very
slowly).

>
> Thom
>

--
Amiga programmer of: GRn, MailMinder, Budokan, Beyond Dark Castle, Dark Castle
Sega Genesis programmer of: Dick Tracy and Marble Madness.
Mike Schwartz  (ames!zorch!amiga0!mykes or mykes@amiga0.sf-bay.org)
1124 Fremont Ave.
Los Altos, CA 94024

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From: leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt)
Subject: Re: Well, Jerry Pournell says that there is a new amiga
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Distribution: comp
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 21:21:41 GMT

Umm... is this a *new* Amiga, or is he just saying, like he did with the
TT, that he just bought a 3000, and he'll tell us about it next month.

Thom
From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: I am giving up on the Amiga
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:48:22 PST
Organization: Amiga makes it possible

In article <1992Jul24.180633.23118@microsoft.com> iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy) writes:
> In article <1992Jul23.204129.14618@ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
> >ata@hfsi.UUCP (John Ata FSO) writes:
> >>
> >>Ever try something simple like having two DOS sessions run the dir command
> >>simultaneously?  Do both session scroll at once?
>
> >Yes.
>
> Not quite. With both dos windows set to background task and of equal
> priority you can easily see Windows switching between the two to
> allow them to scroll. First one scrolls a few lines, stops and the
> other dos window scrolls a few lines then stops....etc...etc.
>
> the granularity of the windows task switcher is not very fine.
>

The same is NOT true of OS/2, though :)  Works just as slick as
AmigaOS...

--
Amiga programmer of: GRn, MailMinder, Budokan, Beyond Dark Castle, Dark Castle
Sega Genesis programmer of: Dick Tracy and Marble Madness.
Mike Schwartz  (ames!zorch!amiga0!mykes or mykes@amiga0.sf-bay.org)
1124 Fremont Ave.
Los Altos, CA 94024
From: chuj@horton.Colorado.EDU (CHU JEFFREY)
Subject: Re: I am giving up on the Amiga
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 19:46:30 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.220255.519@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de> mlelstv@speckled.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst) writes:
>In <1992Jul24.162126.9614@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> chuj@horton.Colorado.EDU (CHU JEFFREY) writes:
>>That's gotta be just a little bit of a joke right?  I mean for the performance
>>of RAW cpu, a 386 already matches up to a 030 processor, take for example of
>>Mac ads on their POWERBOOKS, I think I have already posted the ad info before.
>>Anyways unless your A600 is carrying a 030-16, it wouldn't be at the performance
>>of a 386SX20.  
>
>Not quite. An A500 is about same speed (as far as processor speed counts)
>as a 12MHz 286. A 386SX isn't much faster as a 286 at the same clockspeed.
>A 68030-16 would match the speed of a 386DX at 20MHz.

I agree on your 286 comparisons, but according to the ads, they indicated
that the 030-16Mhz was comparable to a 386SX20 running windows 3.0.
(lets see, LANDMARKS says 16 Mhz for this AT286-12, and then 28Mhz for
 this 386SX20)
From: root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  PC's vs. mortals
Distribution: world
Date: 23 Jul 92 10:40:09 EST
Organization: Rick's Amiga

In article <dano.711763594@srl01> dano@srl01.usl.edu (Dan Stephenson) writes:
>root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Jul19.205748.18330@utstat.uucp> philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>>>In article <root.0233@rkamiga.UUCP> root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>>>
>>>[ ]
>>>>
>>>>Before PC prices started dropping through the floor, the 386SX was a natural
>>>>stepping stone for 286 users who didn't want to buy a high end system.
>>>>
>>>>Within a year no one will be making 286 systems anymore, and the 386SX will
>>>>define the entry point for Intel based systems.
>>>
>>>I don't agree. People will continue to make 286's and sell them for next to
>>>nothing. There are no overwhelming reasons to move to a 386 if you are 
>>>mainly interested in running DOS applications. Given complete systems for
>>>$200, why wouldn't they continue to make and sell them?
>
>>What seems to be happening right now is that those companies who still
>>manufacture 286 systems are going to 16 and 20 mhz motherboards in an
>>effort to put some profit margin back in the boxes.  This is actually a
>>good deal for consumers as a 286 will outperform a 386 running straight
>>MSDOS software when the clock speeds are equal.  But the price difference
>>between a complete 286/16 and a complete 386SX/16 system is closing.
>
>There is only one flaw in your arguement, and I think it is important:
>you can't run Windows in 386 enhanced mode with a 286. 

Well, I'm only talking about straight, non-Windows MSDOS applications or
UNIX-like 286 operating systems.  If you were and accountant who lived in
Lotus 123 all day, then you wouldn't care if you had Windows or not.

The software distributors will eventually force people to buy Windows by
making non-Windows applications unavailable.  And the days of the 286 will
draw to a close.

--
Rick Kelly		Rick's Amiga		Framingham, Mass.

		think!unixland!rmkhome!rkamiga!root

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