HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sessions@sparev.dnet.ge.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Here at General Electric Nuclear Energy in Wilmington, NC, we have just
Date: 29 Dec 92 01:06:04 GMT
Organization: The Internet

had delivered and installed an Optical Autochanger. It is a Hewlett-Packard
Model 20C (32 slots, two optical drives). We bought it from Exsys who have
also provided a SCSI to DSSI interface (the Autochanger has a SCSI buss,
and we wanted to use it on a Microvax 3400 with a DSSI disk interface),
and some software. The software they sold with is is UIS-Archive and
UIS-Media from International Structure Engineers, Inc. (ISE). We want to
use this arrangement to archive large data files from four other VAXen
in a DECnet LAN.

I would like to discuss the experiances anyone who may be reading this
message who have/had a similar configuration and need and what you did
to solve problems like:

How to eject or load media automatically with a DCL command procedure?

	There are set host/dssi commands to eject and load media but they do
	not accept the input slot selection from a command file. I've tried
	all of the standard logical names.

Any suggestions or warnings on the contents of the AUX_COM_FILE for MEDIA.

Thanks in advance for any response.

Zack Sessions
General Electric Nuclear Energy
sessions@sparev.dnet.ge.com
From: gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Time functions in VMS comparing and returning the difference
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:56:00 GMT
Reply-To: gavron@ACES.COM
Organization: ACES Consulting Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <921221000127.20407c7f@WSC.COLORADO.EDU>, STU011649835@WSC.COLORADO.EDU : The Macintosh Lab Manager : VIE Systems Operator : WSCMRT SysOp : Mountain Rescue) (Chris Kenned writes...
#Hello to all-
# 
#	i am writing a program (DCL) that upon execution writes time/day
#to a file. This works. Next I am trying to write another program which
#reads the file and takes the first time entry and compares( finds difference)
#with the next one. This is repeated until the end of the file.
#I.E. time card program. The output (total time comparison) is placed
#to file2 to be typed/printed out (either in a 10 base or 60 base).
#	My problem is figuring out how to compare 2 time values and find the
#difference. I do not have access to the manuals ( if I did I would not know
#where to start). The online help dosen't provide much help. If you
#(anyone) have any sample programs, or anything else that might be of help,
#PLEASE send..... Fortran, Pascal, Basic, C and DCl are all ok, but prefer
#DCL programs. Thank you all.
#	Send any replies to stu011649835@wsc.colorado.edu , or
#org_mrt@wsc.colorado.edu  . I am not subscribed to INFO-VAX.

	HELP RTL LIB$ LIB$SUB_TIMES

         The Subtract Two Quadword Times routine subtracts two VMS
         internal-time-format times.

	HELP SYS $BINTIM
	 Converts an ASCII string to an absolute or delta time value in
         the system 64-bit time format...

	Algorithm:
	1. $BINTIM first time
	2. $BINTIM second time
	3. LIB$SUB_TIMES #1 from #2
	4. If result is LIB$_NORMAL then time 1 is before time 2
	5. If result is LIB$_NEGTIM then time 1 is AFTER time 2

#BTW : Merry Christmas, and have a happy new year...........

	And happy {Ch|H}an[n]uka[h]!

#Chris Kennedy  
#STU011649835@wsc.colorado.edu
#ORG_MRT@wsc.colorado.edu
#Voice : (303) 641-5534

	Ehud

--
Ehud Gavron        (EG76)     
gavron@vesta.sunquest.com
All of life is a blur of Republicans and meat!
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Alternative callable editors in MAIL?
Date: 3 Jan 1993 09:04:20 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <34364@twics.co.jp>, burress@twics.co.jp (Tim Burress) writes:
>One thing I noticed was that it is apparently a requirement that a transfer
>vector be specified, at least for software written in VAX-C.  Without it I
>consistently got the "Key not found in tree" error, no matter what I named
>the routine, but perhaps this has to do with the way C defines the attributes
>of its routines?

What you need to do is to make the entry point a universal symbol.  One way to
do this (as you've discovered) is to link the program with a MACRO32 program
that defines transfer vectors.  Another way, which doesn't use transfer
vectors, is to use a linker options file, specifying:

UNIVERSAL=entry_point

for all the entry points you want to use.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: FZC@CU.NIH.GOV ("Jurassic Park Control Center")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: [TDR] How to sign off Info-Vax
Date: 24 Dec 92 02:12:57 GMT
Reply-To: TDARCOS@MCIMAIL.COM
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

In order to sign off from the Info Vax News list, you
have to determine WHERE the mail is coming from.  If you
get full BSMTP headers, check specifically the
"REPLY-TO" or "SENDER" headers.  If BOTH or EITHER of
those appear and the sender is INFO-VAX@ followed by some
name, then the answer is to try the sender from that
system, i.e. if the sender was:

INFO-VAX@BITNIC.BITNET

   or
INFO-VAX%BITNIC.BITNET@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU

Then you would want to reply to THAT specific listserv
and ask it to sign you off the list.

If the sender is something else, you would need to send
a message to it and ask to stop the list; in my case,
when I get messages on MCI Mail, the sender is
"INFO VAX" / INFO-VAX@SRI.COM or INFO-VAX@KL.SRI.COM

If this still doesn't work, take a copy of the message
and forward it to me at TDARCOS@MCIMAIL.COM and I'll see
if I can tell you whom is sending you the mail.
From: FZC@CU.NIH.GOV ("Paul Robinson, Contractor")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: [TDR] How to subscribe to Info-Vax
Date: 4 Jan 93 01:28:48 GMT
Reply-To: TDARCOS@MCIMAIL.COM
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

TO: DGITLIN@JEFLIN.TJU.EDU   David Gitlin
    mandach@decus.ch         Hans C. Mundach

You need to send a single line message with the following in
the text of the message (the subject will be ignored):

SUB INFO-VAX  David Gitlin
SUB INFO-VAX  Hans C. Mundach

Use whichever one of these is your name. :)  Send this one line
message to the internet address:

LISTSERV@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU


It will forward it to the correct server.
---
Paul Robinson -- TDARCOS@MCIMAIL.COM
These opinions are mine alone.



Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: BJJ@ECL.PSU.EDU (Bryan J Jensen)
Subject: Re: UCX TELNET name.name.name portnumber -- How?
Organization: Penn State Engineering Computer Lab
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 20:12:56 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <1992Dec21.092203.1@gallua> CADS_COLE@GALLUA.BITNET writes:

> I notice that I cannot type:
> 
>        telnet name.name.name portnumber
> 
> (It complains that it can't find a host record.)  But I can type:
> 
>        telnet name.name.name
> and    telnet number.number.number.number portnumber

What you, as a user, can do is use the last form you listed.

What your system manager can do is install a newer version of UCX,
this bug was fixed by one of the later UCX 1.3 patches.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu
Subject: Re: Mount verification timed out
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Distribution: world,local
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 22:51:34 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.222049.21075@tc.cornell.edu>, olin@vger.cheme.cornell.edu (Steve Thompson) writes:
> In article <1992Dec29.215329.8795@das.harvard.edu>, chen@speed.uucp (Lilei Chen) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec29.115919.4181@arizona.edu> Leonard@Arizona.EDU writes:
>>>Boost the value of the SYSGEN param MVTIMEOUT.  (By default 3600 sec. =
>>>1 hour.)  We have ours set to the maximum, which is 64000 sec (a little
>>>under 18 hours), which should give your rebooting node enough time to
>>>come back up and start re-serving the disks.
>>>
>>>Aaron
>>
>>The problem occures even when the node is down for 5 minutes.  I am not
>>sure what MVTIMEOUT really does.
>>
>>Jim
> 
> Is it possible that the node being shut down does a DISMOUNT/CLUSTER?
> You'd only want the /CLUSTER qualifier if the node wasn't coming back
> up shortly.

    If there are any files installed or otherwise open on the served disk,
that shuld be DISMOUNT/CLUSTER/OVERRIDE=CHECKS, otherwise the dismount
will fail.
		-Ken
-- 
 Dr. Kenneth H. Fairfield    |  Internet: Fairfield@Slac.Stanford.Edu
 SLAC, P.O.Box 4349, MS 98   |  DECnet:   45537::FAIRFIELD (45537=SLACVX)
 Stanford, CA   94309        |  BITNET    Fairfield@Slacvx
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 These opinions are mine, not SLAC's, Stanford's, nor the DOE's...
From: FZC@CU.NIH.GOV ("Precious & Few R D moments we 2 can share")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: [TDR] About Off-Line E-Mail
Date: 29 Dec 92 06:27:41 GMT
Reply-To: TDARCOS@MCIMAIL.COM
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Someone on the Fidonet echo stated that they were given
an assignment having to do with writing callable mail for
VAX systems with the intent of trying to reduce the amount
of time people spend on-line.

This got me to thinking.

One of the things I have been working on for several
months (for eventual submission to the Internet RFC
editor as a published specification) is the definition
of the QWK format for packed off-line E-Mail processing,
in which a user at a PC can call up a computer and
download his mail, and read it on the local computer
without tying up the called computer.  This method of
processing E-Mail is common on IBM-type PCs, but the
method could be used for VAX and other computers.

The QWK format works like this:

A user calls up the repository (place where his mail is
at, i.e. a VAX).  The repository collects all his mail
into one large file up to the limits he sets, say 500
messages.  It then indexes, to the nearest 128-byte
block, where every message appears, as well as converting
the mail from VMS format to QWK format.

For each news group (conference) the system collects the
location of the start of each message by block number and
creates a set of indexes for each conference.

It can then add any bulletins or other files, then send
all of this material as a collection of files to the user.

But just sending a large package of mail is inefficient.
So the mail and other files are compressed into a single
file using a compression method such as the Info-ZIP one
for ZIP files, or ARC/PAK files, or ZOO files.

This compressed archive is then transmitted from the
repository to the user's local computer.  The user then
runs a user agent, called an "off-line mail reader" which
unpacks the mail and reads the indexes allowing mail to
be scanned by conference (news group).  The off-line
reader can compose replies to messages and edit the
original message to allow the user to quote the original
message as he sees fit.  Also, if messages are too long,
the off-line reader splits them as needed.  ("Too Long"
is usually defined at around 100 lines; off-line readers
came as the explosion of BBS systems occurred and these
generally allowed messages around 35-99 lines.)  The
system can support longer messages if that is desired.

If anyone on this group is interested in being involved
in (1) helping to write the specifications (2) helping to
write the Internet RFCs to submit this (3) writing code
on a vax to create the client that collects mail from
the mailer as well as posting mail back from the user
and routing it, please send me a note at address

            TDARCOS@MCIMAIL.COM

as I'd like to see how much interest there is in a client
to allow people to read their mail off-line at their PC.

---
Paul Robinson -- TDARCOS@MCIMAIL.COM
These opinions are mine alone.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Mount verification timed out
From: leonard@telcom.arizona.edu (Aaron Leonard)
Date: 29 Dec 92 11:59:19 MST
Reply-To: Leonard@Arizona.EDU
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona Telecommunications

In article <1992Dec29.152302.1716@das.harvard.edu>, chen@speed.uucp (Lilei Chen) writes:

| In our VAX/VMS-cluster a bunch of disks are cross mounted.  Somtimes when
| a node goes down, its disks are marked mount verification timed out.  I
| haven't found a way to get those disks remounted without rebooting the
| nodes.  I am wondering if someone on the net has a solution for that problem.
| Thanks.
| 
| Jim  (xue@cfaft5.harvard.edu)

Boost the value of the SYSGEN param MVTIMEOUT.  (By default 3600 sec. =
1 hour.)  We have ours set to the maximum, which is 64000 sec (a little
under 18 hours), which should give your rebooting node enough time to
come back up and start re-serving the disks.

Aaron
From: SK0001@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU (Sal Kabalani)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Flames.
Date: 30 Dec 92 17:20:42 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

blkcat!Uucp@uunet.uu.net writes:

BC> I for one am getting goddamn sick and tired of listening to all the 
BC> flaming and criticism of people.  If you don't like someone's comments, 
BC> do us *all* a favor and do it through E-Mail.  If someone says something 
BC> totally stupid, *please* don't waste bandwidth to tell people that 
BC> they said something stupid; tell *them*.
[edited] 
BC> Can we have a little less flaming around here?

Actually, I am starting to enjoy watching highly-skilled responsible 
professionals make total fools out of themselves by engaging flamming 
and personal attacks.

Now I dont have to hit the video store for a lame B movie. INFO-VAX brings 
it right into my living room.

- I wasted bandwidth.
- I cannot spell.
- I cannot compose grammatically-correct sentences.

Good-day.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: davek@vax2.concordia.ca (DAVID KURZMAN)
Subject: EVE vs. TPU
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Concordia University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:22:00 GMT

Hi there,
I keep on reading about TPU vs. EVE as editors.  Is TPU the default editor 
on VMS.  What is the difference between EVE and TPU?  If someone can give 
me a short description of the two editors I would appreciate it.  If this 
is a FAQ, please forgive me as I am not sure where I can get the FAQ list 
from.  I promise that I will read it once it is reposted.

Thanks,
Dave Kurzman
DAVEK@VAX2.CONCORDIA.CA
From: jeh@cmkrnl.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Listings for VMS (was: how Open is Open VMS?)
Date: 1 Jan 93 01:43:40 GMT
Organization: Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego, CA

In article <31DEC199216093432@author.gsfc.nasa.gov>, rkoehler@author.gsfc.nasa.gov (Bob Koehler) writes:
> Once upon a time VMS shipped with the source listings microfiche.  You could
> get a machine-readable (edit-and-compilable) copy for a high price.  Then DEC
> stopped that (they told me it made their lawers unhappy), so we had to justify
> why we needed it, and pay a fee.  Now they're moving from fiche to CD rom
> (Bookreader format, not ASCII flat files), 

There are several mistaken notions here.  The listings on the CD-ROM kit are
most certainly ASCII flat files.  And you don't have to "justify" anything,
just sign a source license agreement, and pay about $2200. 

> Some of the source is
> missing, most notably the DECwindows stuff.  

DECwindows listings are available as a separate product.  

Other things that are missing are certain blocks of code that reveal 
information which is either a trade secret (e.g. LMF) or available under a 
separate licensing agreement (e.g. LAT).  

> I don't know if they still sell
> a machine-readable copy, but if they do I expect its still quite expensive.

I'm not sure what you mean by "machine-readable copy", but the listings 
CD-ROM is certainly machine-readable, printable on a straight text printer,
SEARCHable, etc.  

	--- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego CA
drivers, internals, networks, applications, and training for VMS and Windows-NT
uucp 'g' protocol guru and release coordinator, VMSnet (DECUS uucp) W.G., and 
Chair, Programming and Internals Working Group, U.S. DECUS VMS Systems SIG 
Internet:  jeh@cmkrnl.com, hanrahan@eisner.decus.org, or jeh@crash.cts.com
Uucp:  ...{crash,eisner,uunet}!cmkrnl!jeh
From: RICHARDE@UV3.EGLIN.AF.MIL ("Eric F. Richards")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Dumb question of the week
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:58:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet

I wrote:
> I have a sequential mail file with messages in it that I want to copy/move
> to a "normal" ISAM mail file.  Am I missing something obvious in the FM
> on how to do this?  It doesn't seem possible short of mailing the messages
> back to myself (which keeps me from seeing the original To:, Subj: lines).
>
> If it can't be done with the MAIL user interface, has anyone written
> anything using callable MAIL to do this?

... and the answer is:

	MAIL> SET FILE dev:<dir><sequential-mail-file>
	MAIL> COPY/ALL <new-folder> <ISAM-mail-file>

Thanks to Bruce A. Hudson (hudson@ac.dal.ca) for beating everyone else
to the correct answer first.


Eric F. Richards
Tybrin Corp
Eglin AFB, FL
richarde@eglin.af.mil
904/882-9795
From: anderson@funyet.enet.dec.com (Paul Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: How to prevent the DEC login screen on VMS workstation?
Date: 29 Dec 92 21:26:51 GMT
Reply-To: anderson@funyet.enet.dec.com (Paul Anderson)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


> I am working on a VMS workstation running Motif and dec windows 

> 1)  How can I get rid of the Dec login screen?

You can eliminate the big "digital" logo by defining the logical name
DECW$LOGIN_BACKGROUND to be the name of a command procedure that will display
an image on the background behind the login box.

For example, DEFINE /SYSTEM DECW$LOGIN_BACKGROUND "SYS$MANAGER:BACKGROUND.COM"

BACKGROUND.COM could contain an XV command, for example.  If it does nothing
useful, I would imagine you would get a plain background but the big logo would
still be gone.

Paul

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   Digital Equipment Corporation         .                                   .
   40 Old Bolton Road, Stow MA 01775     .   (508) 496-9140                  .
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: sabotkap@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: TT_AccPorNam field remains null on a SHOW USERS output ?
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 04:37:20 GMT

From a terminal hardwired to the system (ours is VMS 5.4), the server/port
field is left blank (see below).  An attempt at using
f$getdvi("TT","TT_AccPorNam") also returns an empty string.

 Username  Node   Process Name    PID     Terminal
 SABOTKA  CIRRUS  SABOTKA       202060C2  TTA0:
                                           ^ (hardwired terminal)

When logged in from a server, or remote system, the server/remote port
information is sometimes left blank:

 Username  Node   Process Name    PID     Terminal
 SABOTKA  CIRRUS  P. Sabotka    20206DCB  LTA2633: (FOG::NETWORK)
                                                   ^ (we can't always get this)
						

When logged in from a non-hardwired terminal, when during login is the 
TT_AccPorNam information obtained ?  It seems a SET TERMINAL/INQUIRE in 
our SYLOGIN.COM is responsible for getting this field, but at other times, 
an otherwise normal login will not retreive this information.

My motives: We have a captive account which we would like to monitor by 
            writing the login time, and any server/remote port information 
            to a log file.  

I apologise for going a bit overboard with info about this problem, but I 
would rather explain it fully to any potential comp.os.vms.know-it-alls
who would flame me for lack of information  8-).

Any help would be appreciated.
Pete

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Pete Sabotka, Meteorology Dept.           sabotkap@woods.ulowell.edu
University of Massachusetts - Lowell      "I lost a buttonhole..." S. Wright
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From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: Request help !
Date: 26 Dec 1992 05:42:50 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <9212242318.AA04439@uu3.psi.com>, leichter@lrw.com (Jerry Leichter) writes:
>However, if you do that and try to delete 1.DIR, you'll STILL fail, with a
=different error message.  This time, you'll get:  "Directory file is not
=empty".  RMS won't let you delete a directory that contains files.  Normally,
=you could just delete everything from the directory - but the only thing "in"
=[.1] is 2.DIR, which is the same file - so deleting IT fails with yet another
=error message:  "File access conflict" (which, BTW, I can't exactly explain,
=though it makes sense in broad terms).
=
=There IS a solution:  You have to "undo" the synonym you created with
=SET FILE/ENTER.  The "reverse" of this command is SET FILE/REMOVE.  If you
=do:
=
=	$ SET FILE/REMOVE [.1]2.DIR;
=
=you'll find that you are back to where you where after you first created [.1],
=with an empty directory.  If the protection allows it, you can now delete it
=with no further problems.

While what Jerry recommends will work, what he says is not QUITE true.  At
least under VMS v5.4-2, you CAN (apparently) DELETE a non-empty directory.  I
say "apparently" because under recent releases of VMS, the DELETE command
distinguishes between the "primary" directory entry for a file and "secondary"
entries (which is the primary entry is determined by the directory backlink and
filename fields in the file header).  DELETE will now do a "SET FILE/REMOVE"
for secondary directory entries, and does an actual DELETE only for the primary
entry.  So, for example, the following works:
	$	CREATE/DIRECTORY [.1]
	$	SET FILE/ENTER=[.1]2.DIR;1 1.DIR;1
	$	SET PROTECTION=O=RWED 1.DIR;1
	$	DELETE [.1]2.DIR;1
	$	DELETE 1.DIR;1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms