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From: adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP (Adam Mottershead)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Blade Runner Soundtrack
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 92 22:01:21 EDT
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Being another one of the avid Blade Runner fans, I have a quick question.

Was the original soundtrack to the film ever released?

So far, all that I can locate is Vangelis' "Themes" release which had a few
of the scores from Blade Runner, and the 'Orchestral adaptation of music
composed for the motion picture by Vangelis' as performed by The New American
Orchestra.

I have purchased both of these, I actually thought that the New American
Orchestra version was the actual soundtrack, until after listening to it
when I realized some differences from it and the movie.  It wasn't it.

If the original soundtrack performed by Vangelis is indeed available in it's
entirity, can someone please forward me the name of the distributor and their
catalogue number?

Please e-mail your response to me, as I rarely get a chance to read this
newsgroup.

Thanks.

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From: iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick)
Subject: Re: The Devils revisited
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:57:04 GMT

David,
      No problem.
Ian
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From: schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck)
Subject: Re: JODIE FOSTER NAKED
Reply-To: Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 05:32:57 GMT

Thomas Omar Smith <ts2a+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>>To the debate on "Pretty Baby" and how Brooke Shields was shown naked, before
>>she was 18, I want one thing clarified. Is this an American Film? I thought
>>it was funded, and partially filmed in France, <where they do not have laws 
>>against minors appearing naked, apparently>. I was far more shocked by 
>>the underage Nasstassia Kinski's nude scenes in "Tess". 
>>Besides, I don't think the morals of the country were undermined by Ms.
>>Shields nakedness. We're still here...
>>
>>				--Judex--

>Even if the scene was filmed in France, the child pornography laws would
>still apply for any American distribution.  It is per se illegal to show
>underage people naked in a theatrical release.  They can often get away
>with it with infants on the grounds that infants are not tittilating or
>somesuch.  But a teenager under 18 shown naked would almost certainly
>get the producers prosecuted under federal child pornography statues in
>America.  

I don't think you are right.

The current movie Prospero's Books has underage females nude in it.
[I found the movie boring as hell....but thats another topic]

Night Moves, a Gene Hackman film from the mid 1970's had 
nude scenes of Melanie Griffith, and she was only 15 at the time.
In fact, the movie has been shown on A&E intact, and I think will be
shown again this weekend.

I don't think underage nudity is illegal. 

I think underage sex is definitely illegal.
From: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: The Devils
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:46:14 GMT
Reply-To: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

I saw this film on video and wish I could have seen it on
the big screen.  This is a great movie. Yes, it's disturbing
but so is life.  That's one of the things that attracted me to
it and one of the things that turn me off from so many films.
Life was certainly brutal for this Priest and his village why
shouldn't it be portrayed as such.  Enjoy.
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From: donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Spielberg Gagas  etco
Organization: none
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 21:34:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug22.020812.11538@midway.uchicago.edu> ttak@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>After being bombarded with Spielberg movies, I've begun to think
>(finally?!?) that Spielberg movies are basically loud (flashy)
>movies with a high budget, ambition, little content and a drop of
>imagination.
>
>Agree, disagree, care?
>
>Kenji Takeuchi
>

Agree, agree, agree! I am tired of his psuedo-disney plots, his rehashed ideas,
and most especially his visual style. If I see one more scene of Menacing
Adults advancing on the protagonist while backlit extravagantly, I think I will
vomit Technicolor. His impact will eventually be measured by "CE3K", "Duel", 
and E.T., little else. <all in my scrawny little opinion>

					--Judex--
From: bagus@netcom.com (Mark E. Ruedy)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Delicatessen
Date: 15 Aug 92 03:20:22 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <iroderic.713739788@cunews> iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick) writes:
>
>I had said the film reminded me of a Jacques Tati film because it is
>so visual and dialogue is quite secondary.  Evidently someone else on
>the system, whose name I can't remember, concurs with me.  I have been
>told that Jean-Pierre Jeunet and Marc Caro have an animation
>background which could explain the film's rich visual "vocabulary".
>Does anyone know for certain if this is the case?
>
>                                        Ian

This comment about animation reminded me of the incredible intro to the
movie ("Delicatessen").  The camera pans through garbage and debris and
the credits are each revealed in an appropriate piece of trash.  I don't
remember specifics but if you see it again check it out.  I remember that
the music was especially interesting during the credits as well.

mark
From: gfritz@sage.cc.purdue.edu ("Happy Fun Ball")
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Eskimo (minor heathers spoilers...)
Date: 16 Aug 92 17:13:10 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Aug16.155656.4759@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
quennevi@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Nyarlathotep) writes:

>Yet another Heathers post...

My favorite kind of post!

>I just saw Heathers again and i don't know if it was the tape or my ears
>but i missed some lines:
>
>  1) what's the first line j.d. said to veronica at
>     the snappy snack shack?

"You gonna pull a super chuck with that?" [after seeing Veronica buying the
corn nuts]

>  2) what did j.d. say to veronica at the guys' funeral
>     to make her laugh?

FATHER:  ...I love my dead, gay son. [one of my FAVORITE lines]

    JD:  What would he say if he had a son with a limp wrist and a pulse?

>  3) what did heather (the green one.. shannon dougherty)
>     say to veronica about martha dumptruck's suicide
>     attempt.. something about suicide hot line and
>     diapers?

"Heather and Kirk were a shock -- but Martha Dumptruck?!?  Get serious.  She
dialed suicide hotlines in her diapers."

>Did you notice that veronica  was trying to put out
>a match with her left hand the the remington party and
>burnt her left hand with the car's cigaret lighter?
>( that roughly correspond to the start of the killing
>and the end of them for veronica) And that j.d. lighthed
>his cigaret in veronica's hand and at the end veronica
>lighted hers when j.d. blew up... (that was kind o' obvious)
>Does that mean that they used each ohter's pain?   

I never noticed these as bei related events.  Interesting.  I *love* the 
scene where J.D. lights his cigarette on Veronica's hand.

I'm sure it's painfully obvious, but I like the blatent use of color-symbolism
used with the characters:  Red (cruel and bitchy) for Heather Chandler; green
(as in envy) for Heather Duke; yellow (cowardly) for Heather McNamara (sp?);
blue (cool) for Veronica; and black (eveil and mysterious) for J.D..  (did I
miss any?)

And since we're on the ever-so-popular topic of "Heathers", can anyone tell
me what JD's father is mumbling before he enters the scene the first time we
see him and after he leaves the scene the second time we see him.

>well that's it,

Ditto.

Geoff
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From: gorgeous@momth2.maths.monash.edu.au ( C Dyt)
Subject: Re: Naked Lunch
Organization: Monash University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 07:16:17 GMT

In article <1449@eagle.ukc.ac.uk>, dajm@ukc.ac.uk (D.A.J.Moor) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug6.221327.16028@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sorourke@lonestar.utsa.edu (Sean J. Orourke) writes:
|> #In article <1992Aug5.085819.4570@muppet.bt.co.uk> carlj@muppet.bt.co.uk writes:
|> #>In article 13297@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au, gorgeous@momth2.maths.monash.edu.au (C Dyt) writes:
|> #>
|> #[lots deleted]
|> #>ps Nearly forgot, you're still not convinced about the mugwump
|> #> in the cage with Kiki?  There a small reference to it early in the
|> #>  film when Burroughs pawns his typewriter, as he leaves the shop there
|> #>  is a shot of a statue of a mugwump and a boy in the same positions.
|> #
|> #There is one shot of the face of the supposed mugwump, and it is definitely
|> #Yves(sp).  Whether it's half-Yves-half-mugwump or just Yves in some weird
|> #form, I have no idea.
|> 
|> In the book I have about the making of Naked Lunch it says that it
|> is Yves in the cage rapeing Kiki.


Previously I had questioned whether it was a Mugwump that Yves had turnt into
in the cage. I now agree that it was. This fact is reinforced by Bill blaming
the Mugwump in his apartment for sending him to Yves'. However this does not
eliminate my previous idea (stubborn little turd arn't I ) about mugwumps
representing drugs. (see numurous previous postings). I now put forward that 
what happend to Kiki was in fact representing a drug overdose.

I would love to hear replies to this idea.

Chris
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From: DOBENSON@ua1vm.ua.edu (Joe Demon)
Subject: Re: Quote help
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:38:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.115628.16820@pbs.org>
eyeater@pbs.org writes:
 
>     I hope the net can help me on this.  From whence comes the line,
>
>                "It is BALLOON!"  ?
>
>
>        I've heard the line many times (most recently on MST-3K), but I
>     have no idea of its origin.  Anyone?  Anyone?
>
>  [Eric Yeater, for whom the Public Broadcasting Service is not responsible]
 
  Easy. That line is straight out of F-Troop. Don't remember the man's name
who says it -- of the the Hakawi, though.
 
 
 
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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: SpideyMovie
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 01:45:45 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

c9107143@cc.newcastle.edu.au (SEARCH AND DESTROY) writes:

> the spidey movie in asia is called Spiderman - The Dragon's Challenge
> (at least it is in Australia anyway)...

There was also a Japanese _Spider-Man_ TV series.  I don't think it's
ever been dubbed into English, but most fans of the comic would probably
be appalled by it anyway.  (I love it, myself . . . )

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From: PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Peter Correnty)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: DEEP RED - THE HATCHET MURDERS (was Re: DARIO ARGENTO)
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:58:12 GMT
Organization: Yale University

Here's an old posting I wrote to HORROR that I thought some of you
Argento fans might want to read.  I wrote it in response to
someone's posting that stated he thought Argento's films were
incoherent.
 
 
Date:         Fri, 20 Sep 91 14:12:00 EDT
From:         Peter Correnty <PETERC@YALEADS>
Subject:      Re: Peter's scary films
To:           Horror <HORROR@PACEVM>
 
 
               <lots o' stuff deleted>                    Argento
said in an interview that his trilogy was about The Three Mothers,
SUSPIRIA- The Mother of Whispers, INFERNO - The Mother of Tears (I
would assume 'fire', but I guess not) and TENEBRAE - The Mother of
Shadows/Darkness.  Ironically, Argento said, "TENEBRAE is his most
colorful work - it's a weird, multicolored party."  I thought that,
visually, SUSPIRIA was superior to DEEP RED, but that DEEP RED is
still quite remarkable.  Have you seen the 121 minute, letterboxed
Italian language version?  It is 100X more visually arresting than
the US 99 or 100 minute release which crops off 1/3 of the screen?
The final elevator decapitation/vomit scene is intact, the first
murder is prolonged, the bathtub scalding has at least three more
shots, the dummy attack scene in prolonged and the double-accident,
head crushing death scene which is darkened and heavily chopped in
the US release is complete and completely visible.  In addition,
about 10 minutes of further plot development is included.  When I
first saw DEEP RED during its US release, a lot of things didn't
make sense.  In the uncut version, the entire film is tied together
very neatly.
 
I think that Argento's first film, BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL PLUMAGE is
probably is most coherent work.  It is probably also the least edited.
 
-Pete.
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From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Subject: Re: Eraserhead  ...You get a love letter from me...
Keywords: Eraserhead Lynch pencils
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 17:56:48 GMT

ntraven@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (The Night Raven) writes:

>     I am a general David Lynch fan... I never got to see all of Eraserhead,
>but I saw enough to know that I got the most incredibly spooky feeling while
>watching it.. Sort of what I got when Dennis Hopper did his whole "You get a
>love letter from me, you're f*cked FOREVER!" speech in "Blue Velvet."

	Did you really get a spooked feeling from the "love letter" scene?
I just thought "what a nut, I'd want to get the hell away from this
guy before he snuffs me"

It was interesting, and full of bad crazyness, but nothing spooky that
I could see.

I also wondered what the hell is wrong with Frank.    He is obviously
a criminal personality, psychopath, or whatever you want to call it,
but he also seemed to be not all there, like during the love letter
scene, he kept making those confused/anethstitized gestures with his
hands.   I was thinking it was maybe just from all the nitrous he sucked
up, but maybe he was just a "bad chemicals" kinda guy, as in his brain
wasn't making the same chems as a normal brain.  Schizophrenic, Obsessive
Compulsive Disorder, what?

I really dug the "Hey!  ...Wanna go for a ride man?" scene, also.  What
a nasty guy!

And what was that pill he took at Frank's place-  speed?  PCP?  I
thought it could have been either from the "love letterish" way he was
acting.   The anestetic behavior made me think of pcp.

Jim "you read a post from me and you are F*CKED FOREVER" Del Vecchio
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From: jland@nwu.edu (John Landwehr)
Subject: Caddyshack text!
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 01:55:55 GMT

I need the Caddyshack script-

Any ideas where I might find this?

jland@nwu.edu
From: donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Big Screen Super-Heroes, What next, the Shadow?
Keywords: The Shadow, Darkman
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:50:13 GMT
Distribution: alt.cult-movies
Organization: none


In article <cosulliv.714352000@sfu.ca> cosulliv@fraser.sfu.ca (Christina Marie O'Sullivan) writes:
>Superman, Batman, Dick Tracy, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles...first they
>were comic strips or comic books, then serialized for the matinee
>crowd (except TMNT), and super-hyped with mega-production, f/x, salaries, etc.
>What I wanna know is this:
>	What about _The Shadow_?
>
>	As films nowadays are bleak and depressing overall, maybe it's time
>the Shadow should emerge onto the big screen? There've been serialized 
>matinee formats of the Shadow, radio shows, novels, comic books, I'd like
>to see the Master Stalker of the Night in a Tim Burton vehicle.  Has
>someone else in Hollywood cradled this idea? Does anyone want to get
>involved in fantasy casting?
>
>Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of studio execs?
>
>

I had heard  that Sam Raimi was going to do the Shadow, but that Walter
Gibson's estate was not happy with his script. After a little bit of re-
writing and some research, the Shadow script became Darkman. 
Notice the resemblance between the classic Pulp pictures of the Shadow, and
Darkman when he is in his hideout, wearing the floppy hat, and overcoat.
I agree that the time has come for the return of this great character, though.
"Who Knows What Evil Lurks In The Hearts Of Men? The Shadow Knows!"

					--Judex--
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Subject: Re: Ironman II
From: tfarmer@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Farmer)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 01:43:30 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

In article <16848BA13.DOBENSON@ua1vm.ua.edu> DOBENSON@ua1vm.ua.edu (Joe Demon) writes:
>I checked with my distributor yesterday, and he said Ironman II has not
>yet been released. It seems the director took it to Cannes, and it was
>poorly received. He's planning to work on it some more before letting
>it go.

Well, I saw Tetsuo II at the Wellington Film Festival in new Zealand
about a month and a half ago.

If he's doing more work on it, I'm pleased. :-)

I thought Tetsuo II expanded on the worst points of the first film
without doing anything with the good ones.
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From: welter@fwi.uva.nl (Richard Welter)
Subject: Re: Tetsuo (_The Iron Man_)/Caligari
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:14:16 GMT

DOBENSON@ua1vm.ua.edu (Joe Demon) writes:

>In article <1992Aug14.181437.6665@news2.cis.umn.edu>
>donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
> 
>>had ever seen, it was dethroned recently. I saw the <obscure and hard to find>
>>Japanese film "Tetsuo" <The Iron Man>. Obviously influenced by Lynch, with
>>a bit of Cronenberg, and Raimi, mixed in. Black and Whit again enhances
>>the films mood, and <much like Eraserhead> the film is non-synopsizable.
>>Check it out if you get the chance. A must-see!
>>
>>                        --Judex--
> 
>  Another Ironman fan! Hard to believe. A couple of questions. The version
>I have comes straight from Japan; and I do not speak Japanese. Any idea
>what the old man and the soon-to-be-Ironman (near the end of the movie)
>are saying? While I believe I have the rest of the movie figured out, that
>one long speaking scene has me baffled.
>  Second question. If you think Ironman is unusual, have you seen _Dr.
>Caligari_ directed by Stephen Sayadian? A very unusual comment on the
>Reagan and Bush presidencys.
> 
 And here's another Tetsuo fan. The version I saw was also without subtitles
so I'm not sure about what was said, but I've heard that at the end when 
they've merged they talk about infecting the rest of the world.
 Unfortunately it's not available on video around here, so could any of you
tell me where I might be able to get a copy of Tetsuo?

CYA,
 Richard

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From: henryml@daimi.aau.dk (Henry Michael Lassen)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,bit.listserv.cinema-l
Subject: Re: The Adjuster
Date: 22 Aug 92 17:16:17 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

aku@leland.Stanford.EDU (Andrew Chia-Tso Ku) writes:

>In article <171e73INNduk@agate.berkeley.edu> peterme@ocf.berkeley.edu (Peter D. Merholz) writes:
>>I saw this about a month ago, and while I guess I liked it, the film was
>>just too obscure for my tastes... Why can't directors have plots, instead of
>>just some mildly interesting characters... Why must they obscure meaning...
>>To make it "art"? Well, I don't think they succeed... I think this movie 
>>would have been much better had their been a storyline it was attached to...
>>(I have similar feelings about ZENTROPA)

>I found that THE ADJUSTER required a lot of post-movie contemplation
>in the same way that BARTON FINK did, and the more I thought about its
>interlocking motifs of voyeurism, desensitization, and alienation
>wrought by technology, the more I liked it.  The movie also has a
>detached, nocturnal look and some original images.

>I recently watched Atom Egoyan's two previous movies, FAMILY VIEWING
>and SPEAKING PARTS on video.  I was really impressed with SPEAKING
>PARTS, which I enjoyed more than THE ADJUSTER: it's more plot-driven,
>the characters are more "real", and there's a boffo surreal sequence
>at the climax.  FAMILY has long boring stretches that really tested my
>patience.  SPEAKING and FAMILY use extensive video imagery for an
>original "layered" effect.

A thing I like about Egoyan's movies is the "fragmented" style.
Usually it takes some time to understand how the characters relate to
each other, which can be a little confusing at first, but also makes
the watching more intriguing.

>All three of Egoyan's movie star his wife, Arsinee Ka...(?), who
>has an Ingrid Bergman-like exotic allure.  

I also liked "Speaking Parts" better than the two others - Especially
because of Arsinee Kahnjian's (sp?) character - I found her attractive
because of her mysterious aura. I didn't know she was Egoyan's wife.
What about the woman that played her sister in "The Adjuster"? Is she
a relative? She was also in "Family Viewing" as the lost mother, and
she didn't say a word in either of the films (I don't remember her in
"Speaking Parts"). Apparently Egoyan like to use the same cast. The
eccentric woman and the censor in "The Adjuster" also had important
parts in the two previous movies - but the leading parts in all three
was played by a different actor (Lance/"The Son"/"The Adjuster").

>Andrew
//Michael
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From: DOBENSON@ua1vm.ua.edu (Joe Demon)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: A Question for A BETTER TOMORROW experts
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:30:29 GMT
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa

In article <168428AF7.PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>
PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Peter Correnty) writes:
 
               Are Lung and Ken dead?????
>
>Thanks!!!
>
>Pete.
  If you are a fan of this type of movie, and it appears as though you
are, you know that the typical Oriental man can be shot *numerous* times
without dying.
  My guess, then? They're alive.
  By the way...Have you seen _Bullet in the Head_?
 
 
 
 
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