From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
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Subject: Simon N. McRae | Nil
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:06:28 GMT
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In article <1992Dec17.040258.18557@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Simon.N.McRae@dartmouth.edu (Simon N McRae) writes:

>Dear Mr. Patrick Taylor,

>       Allow me to express my most profound apologies for having tred
>on your delicate sensibilities.  I'd like to explain a few points to
>you, in a clearly set out, logical manner which you will understand.  

Oh, this is gonna be fun!

>       (1)  I separated Bull from Shit, and capitalized each word (and,
>            really, shouldn't this have betrayed my intentions?) in
>order
>            to have a little fun at Mr. kjf's learning institution's
>            expense.  If you look closely, you'll see his address as
>            ...bsu.edu. You see, then, in order to save the integrity
>            of the school's acronym, I had to bend the rules a bit as
>far
>            as colloquial use of bullshit is concerned.  Get it?

Forgive me for not rolling out of my chair and laughing myself unconcious.

>       (2)  Hegemonical.  By insisting that Viet Nam be one word, kjf
>is
>            illustrating beautifully that loathesome tendency of
>Americans
>            to EXERT THEIR PREDOMINANCE OVER OTHER GROUPS.  Americans
>choose
>            to spell it as one word (for no good reason), so everyone
>should 
>            follow suit.  American way=correct way.  Linguistic
>imperialism.
>            Hegemony!  By the way, how on earth do you construe the
>word?  

Kinda tab-crazy, aren't you?  Hegemony ususally implies imperialistic or
dominating behavior within a federation.  Say if Texas were to try to bully 
around the rest of the US.  I guess you could consider the world some sort 
of loose federation, but there are no clues of that in this newsgroup.

>       (3)  Peremptory?  Really, now.  Who was being imperious and     
>              
>            dictatorial?  I was merely setting out a point of fact. 
>Mr. kjf
>            was the one being peremptory.

Maybe he was.  But I don't think there's any rule restricting the peremptory 
trait to only one side of an argument.  Bottom line is that you are bigoted 
against Americans.  Why not just attack him directly, rather than bringing 
240,000,000 people you have never met into it?

>       (4)  Fuckhead.  Fuck head?  No, uh uh, wrong.  When separated
>like 
>            that, "fuck" doesn't know whether its an adjective or a
>verb in
>            some settings (eg--without a preceding indefinite article).
> 
>            Fuckhead is much clearer, and more common.  In fact, "fuck
>head"
>            is seldom, if ever, used.

Of course it's used, where have you been.  As for correctness, I put my money
on fuck-head, since fuckhead is not a word, and pseudo-words like that are 
usually constructed with hyphens.  Let's see, you are a fuck-head.  Yup, 
looks right to me ;-)

>       (4)  My tone.  Granted, a little scathing.  But look to what it
>was in
>            response.  At least I had the decency to launch my attacks
>from a
>            basis in fact.  

Fact?  You say crap like "You can't expect ...  from Americans" and you 
call it fact?

You are simply perpetuating nationalistic hatred, that's all.  Some fact.

>And, besides, where do you think we are? 

I don't think WE are anything.  You are one thing and I am definitely 
another.

>            alt.niceboysandgirls?  Take a look around you, you myopic fuck
>            (oh no, I feel myself slipping back in to that *zoo* language
>            again, many apologies).

Maybe the zoo bit was a little overkill.  But you are certainly out to lunch 
in the social responsibility dept.  Get a mind, loser.

>Each one of your objections has been successfully parried.  

Claims, claims.  You haven't said one thing in your defense about being a 
bigot.  Of course, it's all there in 1's and 0's, isn't it ;-)

>Maybe if
>you had thought a little more about what you were going to say before
>you went ahead and said it, maybe then I wouldn't have to explain
>myself so.  

You haven't *carefully* thought about what either one of us has said.

>But, deeds done, you've just given me more reason to
>consider Americans undiscerning.  

Oh, here we go again.  You get an A+ in hypocrisy.  Think you have all the 
answers.  What the hell, I've talked to 50, 100, or even 1,000 Americans, so
I must know how they all are!  Shit, even if you are one making a statement 
like that is displaying your ignorance like panties flapping on a 
clothesline.

>Of course I don't think all Americans
>are undiscerning, but there *are* enough here the likes of you and kjf
>and Pat Buchanan, etc., etc., that I'm really hard pressed to name any
>among the minority who are not.  So I'm not really a bigot; I only
>judge people after they've proven their stupidity, not before.

Ah.  So I'm stupid for calling you to the carpet on being bigoted.  Clever
defense.  All you have done is shown the infinite stupidity of those who 
bash by nationality, putting you with the likes of Kevin Walsh et alia.

>Oh, and next time you scamper off to the dictionary to look up a word,
>scan beyond the first listed definition, and try to use your
>imagination a little, too.  You, too, could then discover that reading
>is fun.

Dictionary?  You found your words in a dictionary?  Oh, that's the problem.

>You look a little piqued.  Are you sure you're going to be all right? 

I'll be fine.  But you should do something about your ugly hatred.  Someday 
it will get you cold, alone, and eventually dead.  You are a sad little 
creature.

>Don't worry, I won't say a word about your lovely 
>mother.  Not a word.

It would fit in with your character quite well.

>BTW, get rid of ;-).  It's girlish and unctiously saccharine. 
;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)

There, that should be enough to give you cancer   :-D

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