From: bjones@pbs.org
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Onobox question
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:44:05 EDT
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

In article <1992Sep27.220355.19193@menudo.uh.edu>, edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen) writes:
> In article <Sep.26.11.02.58.1992.27922@remus.rutgers.edu> ficara@remus.rutgers.edu (ken ficara) writes:
> 
>>If anyone out there has the Yoko Ono boxed set (ie, you got it free as
>>a review copy and can't find a used CD store to buy it from you :) can
>>you please email me or post the musician credits to "Walking on Thin
>>Ice" and "Yang Yang"? Thanks.
> 
> Nope, your rude comments render your question null and void.
> 
> Old time rmb'ers know me (among other things) as being the defender of the
> females who were / are attached to the members of the band.   Unfortunately,
> this usually ends up being Linda and Yoko, as Barbara, Olivia, Cynthia, Patti,
> Jane Asher, Maureen, and the countless others have mostly stayed in the 
> background.
> 
> You may not enjoy Yoko and her music.  However, she is deserving of the basic
> human respect any person enjoys.

Wait a second! Nobody is denying her "basic human respect". The only thing
that was implied in the original post was the fact that the author does not
have a lot of respect for her work (music) - a sentiment a lot of us happen
to share. What I'm finding difficult to understand is why Yoko supporters
feel that it's their duty to "protect" her by attacking anybody who isn't
exactly crazy about her and expresses his/her opinion in public. Is it out
of respect for John? (BTW, John was/is my favourite Beatle, but even though
I admire him greatly, let's face it - he was only human and on occasion
did stupid things. IMO getting involved with Yoko was one of them.)


  Further, her status as an artist, and even
> musician is valid.  

And how exactly do you determine someone's status as a musician? Do you
use record sales or the amount of publicity they are getting as a
criterion? I would think that to be called a musician (just like in any
other profession) a person should at the very least have acquired (or be
born with, as the case may be) a certain level of basic ability, like
being able to hit the notes most of the time - a skill that so far Yoko
has failed to demonstrate.

 Kate Pearson of the B-52's has countless times stated that
> Yoko was one of her biggest influences.

Now, that would explain a lot of things about the B-52s, wouldn't it?
 (You guessed it, I'm not a fan of theirs, either ;-)  )

  Consider that the ultra-popular "Love
> Shack" sounds very much like a pop version of a Yoko tune.  Similarly, John
> believed in Yoko, and her abilities.  
> 
Have you ever heard that saying about love making one blind? And how do
you know that he wasn't simply trying to be supportive in order not
to hurt her feelings? And also, with all the Yoko bashing going on, he
probably felt compelled to protect her by sort of forcing his/Beatles
fans to believe that she was great.

> I'm not trying to change your mind, but simply ask that you THINK a bit
> before you post something so offensive, and unfunny, even if it was meant
> as "only a joke"...
> 

Sorry, but I just don't see the original post as being in any way
offensive (after all, there are a lot of harsher things that could
be said about Yoko's "art"). And if you don't think it was funny,
then don't laugh. Just don't try to tell anyone what is or isn't
acceptable to post. This newsgroup was meant to be a medium for
exchange of information AND opinions, and that (IMHO) is what
makes it a valuable resource, so why not just keep it that way?

Beata

> <ESC>
> 
> 
> -- 
> ..You either kiss the future or the past goodbye...
>                           -- Ringo Starr (written by O'Deherty / Velez)
> 
>                                 



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