HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: warrior@next03pg2.wam.umd.edu (Gary Carter Inc.)
Subject: Re: Genesis/RTZ??????
Reply-To: warrior@wam.umd.edu
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 06:13:02 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.184100.3318@cs.unca.edu> mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott  
McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) writes:
> warrior@next03pg2.wam.umd.edu (Gary Carter Inc.) writes:
> : A friend got us tickets for the Sold Out Show in Philly.  He said  
there  
> : was a rumor that RTZ will open for Genesis.  Is this True???? thanks a  
> : lot.
> 
> 
> Okay, what is RTZ?!?
> 
> (What kind of music, who, how are they connected with Genesis, ad  
infinitum...)
> 
> Scott
RTZ= Return to Zero, with 2 members from the group Boston.  @ release  
single on the radio...Give it all you've got...and... Till' your love  
comes back around...they sound really good!!!
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
From: tcw@kepler.unh.edu (Timothy C Webb)
Subject: Re: THE TEN MOST OVERRATED ROCK BANDS EVER(GNR)
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:16:20 GMT

In article <92105.225937U14540@uicvm.uic.edu> <U14540@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>In article <1992Apr11.200358.12030@nic.unh.edu>, msr@kepler.unh.edu (Mathew S
>Reno) says:
>>
>>name. This is the thing about anonymous flamers, they think they are winning
>>by not leaving their names, but they're just plain stupid.
>
>Damn! You figured me out. I thoght if I posted something without putting my
>name I would win. God,I guess your just too smart for me. Man, I hate losing.
>And you're right I am stupid compared to you who obviously has an IQ of 356.

  This is just getting plain stupid.

>>This guy/gal/it? is a jerk and his idiotic posting has nothing to do with
>>the original post. Personally, I despise GNR for their musical ignorance
>>[stuff deleted]
>>liked/disliked the group, I would be extremely offended. The point of a
>>debate is to debate, not to insult. So, if you have nothing constructive
>>to add, don't post garbage (like the last post).
>
>Mr. matt, this isn't a debate class. It's netnews where people are free to
>voice their opinions. My opinion was that GNR is a good group. Really,
>if you want to debate then go find yourself a politician. Netnews sure isn't
>the place to do it because you have forever to respond.

   I beg to differ. Debates are far more productive than mindless yelling at
each other. And your opinion of GnR being a good group did NOT seem to be the
primary focus of your original post. It appeared to me to be all insults.

>                                          Wayne
>                          Gee, I'm sorry I don't have a signature like Mr matt.
>                          I guess I don't spend enough time on the computer.

   Give it a rest, huh?  
-- 
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From: exurln@avata.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Bob Netherton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: THREE GREATEST CHORDS OF ALL TIME
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:48:51 GMT
Reply-To: exurln@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <pdlemass.702737189@unix2.tcd.ie>, pdlemass@unix2.tcd.ie (Something original) writes:
|> In <1992Apr7.085300.17734@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> booyacht@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ryan Lucas) writes:
|> 
|> >All right, since I've been reading the .music groups I've seen lists fly back
|> >and forth for the greatest rock bands, greatest rock singers, greatest albums,
|> >most overrated bands, best would-be superbands, etc., etc., etc.  I, for one,
|> >think it's high time we got down to the real core of all this.  With that in
|> >mind, I put forth the following question:
|> 
|> >What are the three greatest rock & roll chords of all time?
|> 
|> >1. E  - *the* all-time classic rock chord, period.
|> >2. A  - the chord that just begs to follow E.
|> >3. B  - cuz no chord sounds sweeter after eight bars of E and A.
|> 
|> NO NO NO 
|> G C and D without a doubt . 
|>                            Peter.

NO NO NO.

It is either Am, G, F (or if you must Em D C) or G Bb, C (or for Terrible Ted
Am C D).  We wouldn't have any music today if it were not for these two
progressions (is three really a progression ??????).

I do have to admit E, A, B is the grandaddy of them all, but not the
best.

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From: jejones@microware.com (James Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: remakes
Summary: another Vanilla Fudge cover
Keywords: remakes
Date: 6 Apr 92 02:14:41 GMT
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Des Moines, Iowa

In article <1992Apr5.090722.2088@pellns.alleg.edu> mccombj@pell58.alleg.edu (Joseph McCombs) writes:
>One song remake that I want to call attention to (if no one has
>already) is Vanilla Fudge's 1968 cover of "You Keep Me Hangin' On."

Good remake!  Don't forget their cover of "Some Velvet Morning"!  (Anyone
know if *Near the Beginning* is on CD?)  They took what I guess, to give
Lee Hazelwood and Nancy Sinatra their minimal due, was one of H&S's better
duets, mixed in some slightly mutated *Sacre du Printemps* (!), and came
up with a QUITE eerie result.

	James Jones

Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: modester@IASTATE.EDU (Matthew R Hodges)
Subject: The Cure (mailing lists) 
Keywords: subscriptions
Reply-To: modester@IASTATE.EDU (Matthew R Hodges)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 00:38:17 GMT

 

  Due to problems with the server the moderated Cure digest has not been issued
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From: andy@bermuda.autodesk.com (Andrew Purshottam)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Name of Andrews' Sisters.
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:32:47 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc.

Hi, would anyone know the names of the WWII singing trio,
the Andrews' sisters (one is Maxine). Want them for names
of decstations, which are code named, well you guess...
	Please mail to andy@autodesk.com
--
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phone: (415) 332-2344 X2161  email: andy@autodesk.com
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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: FANTASY & Fogerty (was :Yet another indie label about to...) 
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 23:26:33 GMT

dap@vpharm.com (David A. Pearlman) writes:

>Rumor has it that Polygram is close to closing a deal to purchase
>the Fantasy label. Fantasy owns substantial jazz and blues catalogues,
>including Prestige, Riverside and Milestone. They also own the Stax 
>catalogue, and the Creedence Clearwater Revival masters...

Actually the ownership of the Creedence music is still in dispute. After 
Saul Zaentz sued Fogerty over the Zaentz Can't Dance song on Centerfield
they supposedly settled with Fogerty paying some damages to Fantasy and 
some agreement that Zaentz would sell Fogerty the back catalog. This all 
happened after Fogerty won the case by Fantasy against him for writing a 
song that sounded like an old song he wrote he no longer owned.

Anyway, I saw a newspaper article last week saying that Zaentz and Fogerty had
a mediated meeting with no lawyers and agreed to settle the Zaentz can't Dance
thing and that Zaentz would offer the back catalog. Supposedly for something
like $500,000. Now Zaentz denies that the unwritten agreement was ever made
and says that they had agreed to *offer* the catalog, but certainly not at a
price that low.  Fogerty is really pissed off. He's supposed to be working
on a new album right now down in Los Angeles.  

>Thus dies yet another of the remaining significant indie labels. Polygram
>will supposedly be paying a hundred million for the label, mostly
>to get access to their vast jazz holdings...

Yes, but... Well, they do have a significant archival chunk of old material
since they have bought up catalogs of a couple older labels and are doing a 
nice job on re-issues. But if what Fogerty claims is true the label largely
made it's fortune by exploiting the young Creedence band into signing away
any interest in the rights to their own music. I think this was actually 
pretty common in the industry in those days but still that doesn't make it
any less sleazy. I'm sure some people like Fogerty will be happy to see it go. 

  - Malcolm
From: kmagnacca@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Floyd
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:16:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: eagle.1992Apr16.131633.1
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <1992Apr16.130945.12822@clpd.kodak.com>, benham@anion.serum.kodak.com (Todd Benham (x37354)) writes:
> I see that there is a lot of Pink Floyd fans out there.  I noticed that
> the sleeve to the The Wall has the lyrics to a song that is not on the
> album.  I can't think of the name.  What is it and has it been released
> anywhere?  Thanks
> 
> Todd
-- 

   It's called "What Shall We Do Now;" it originally went where "Empty Spaces"
is, and "Empty Spaces" was meant to be a reprive of it.  It was cut from the
album because of time but shows up in the film.  As far as I know it is only
available on bootlegs of the Wall concerts and of the film soundtrack (there
was also another song in the movie, "When Tigers Break Free," which was
released as a single).

Karl Magnacca

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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.arts.movies
From: rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser)
Subject: Re: Blade Runner/Kim Wilde question
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:42:11 GMT

nestor@hub.toronto.edu (John Nestor) writes:

>There is a song called "Blade Runner" on the 1984 "Teases and Dares" 
>album by British singer Kim Wilde.  The song features samples from the 
>movie Blade Runner.  Does anyone know if the song was part of the original 
>movie soundtrack, or had any "official" status with respect to the movie?

   The answer is, simply, no. It was not in the movie nor has it anything to
do with the film other than Kim Wilde obviously alluding to it.

--
Richard J. Rauser    "I like fighting Chun Li. 
rauser@sfu.ca         Especially when I slide under her and glance up."
WNI                                           -Dhalsim
From: jester@crash.cts.com (Ken Bibb)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: ClockDVA: Transitional Voices review request
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:03:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: crash.1992Apr08.170346.10464
Reply-To: jester@crash.cts.com (Ken Bibb)
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

After seeing the recent ClockDVA reviews (which I forgot to save :-/)
I wanted to go out and get Advantage and Man-Amplified.  Unfortunately,
both are sold out in the San Diego area and I'll have to wait a week
or two to get them.  There *is* a disk called "Transitional Voices"
(or at least, that's what the Tower salesdronette said) but since I
don't remember seeing a review of that, and since I remember hearing
that certain phases of ClockDVA aren't as good as others, I thought
I would appeal to the net for a review of this disk to see if it
was worth getting.

Is it?

And does anyone have a complete set of reviews for ClockDVA's CDs?

--
jester@crash.cts.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
From: billj@seas.smu.edu (Snugglupagus)
Subject: Re: THE TEN MOST OVERRATED ROCK BANDS EVER(GNR)lo
Organization: School of Engineering and applied science; S.M.U.; Dallas, Tx
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 04:43:51 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.230550.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> kmagnacca@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.211001.14694@seas.smu.edu>, billj@seas.smu.edu (Snugglupagus) writes:
>> In article <1992Apr12.212143.3369@sbcs.sunysb.edu> chrmurph@engws4.ic.sunysb.edu (Christopher Murphy) writes:
>>>In article <92100.224336U14540@uicvm.uic.edu> <U14540@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>>>>In article <1992Apr7.022627.15011@nic.unh.edu>, tcw@kepler.unh.edu (Timothy C
>>>>Webb) says:

[extraneous stuff deleted.]

>   Now look what you've done!  If you had a brain in your head, you would have
>realized that the first poster was NOT SERIOUS.  Let's learn a new word today -
>it's called "sarcasm."  Now we've got this bonehead Debbie Gibson fan on our
>case.

NO KIDDING!!!  a moron would have realized that the FIRST poster was
not serious.  that's why i didn't reply to it!  i replied to the
SECOND post, whose author WAS serious!

geez... do i need to draw arrows or what?

>IT'S THE APOCALYPSE!!!!

where?!?


snugglupagus
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SMU School of Engineering and Applied Science, Dallas, TX 75275
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          e1fr0006@vm.cis.smu.edu       CompuServe: 70673,761
Xref: sparky rec.music.misc:14361 alt.rock-n-roll:10014 alt.music.alternative:3375
From: cma@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (christine.m.dakes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Smells Like NIRVANA
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:33:38 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rock-n-roll
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T


I just saw the video and heard the song for the first time
last night on mtv, I died! it was great!  Definitely Weird Al's
best!  I love the cheerleaders with hairy armpits!  Well done
video Al!

  Christine
  
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: asg28689@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Abhi S. Gami)
Subject: BEATLES in BMG
Summary: New disc in catalog
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:06:51 GMT


Recently, BMG has started offering a Beatles disc.  It's one of those live
recording with somebody else fronting.  

Any opinions of this disc?  Is it Beatles or just some stupid ripoff?

Please e-mail directly.

Thanks----Abhi Gami
From: silvus@vauxhall.ece.cmu.edu (Gregory Lee Silvus)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: THREE GREATEST CHORDS OF ALL TIME
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:40:15 GMT
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Apr8.124526.29352@sci.kun.nl> eerke@cs.kun.nl (Eerke Boiten) writes:
>>1. E  - *the* all-time classic rock chord, period.
>>2. A  - the chord that just begs to follow E.
>>3. B  - cuz no chord sounds sweeter after eight bars of E and A.

There's one in every crowd. I think my favorite chords are (drumroll,
please):

G
Eb
Cm

Used in that order, of course. Anyone know where those are used?
(I'm sure there's more than one place.)

gReg

Have a nice day. No, really, I mean that.
From: mvick@hp835.mitek.com (Marty A. Vick)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Phil Collins and the Magical Drum Machine
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:38:54 GMT
Organization: OpenConnect Systems




I agree. If longtime listeners haven't noticed this,
they must be brain dead. Collins has consistently
plugged his music as "changing as we all do during
our lives" when addressing those criticisms.

However, those criticisms have come not from just
a few diehard Genesis fans -- many fans of all
types who have at least tried to listen to previous
Genesis work know about this. Hence, the postings.

Where is Genesis headed? To Las Vegas?

MAV
-- 
 Marty A. Vick, mvick@hp835.mitek.com, 214-308-0484
 OpenConnect Systems, Documentation
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: "Oh Yeah" by Yello = "Rotating Head" by English Beat?
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 05:43:02 GMT
Organization: Living in a satellite fantasy, waiting for the night to end.

tparker@ncar.ucar.edu () writes:

> I borrowed a friend's CD called "Special Beat Service" by the  English
> Beat.   I liked it a lot.  But a song on there called "Rotating Head"
> immediately reminded me of that song from the movie "Ferris Bueller's
> Day Off" called "Oh Yeah" by Yello, I believe.  Major parts of the two
> songs seem practically identical. 

Which major parts are *those*?  I've owned both songs for years and never
noticed even a superficial similarity.  Maybe you're confusing "Oh Yeah"
with the "Rotating Head" remix ("March Of The Swivel Heads") that John
Hughes used in the FERRIS BUELLER soundtrack? 

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

"I used to think some was better than none; I'm not so sure
 of that, anymore."		 -- Jess Anderson
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: sigma@sun.ipl.rpi.edu (Kevin Martin)
Subject: Re: Violent Femmes on Dennis Miller
Keywords: Violent, Femmes
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 03:02:12 GMT

bhowmik@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Prasanta K. Bhowmik) writes:
>I saw the Violent Femmes on Dennis Miller rerun last week, and they
>played this song which has been haunting me for the last six months.
>The lyrics go something like "I like American music...".  Which
>album is it off of, and is it a cover.  If so, who wrote the song, and
>who originally recorded it.  

That's "American Music" from their most recent album "Why do birds sing?"
It was also the first single from that album I believe.  It's written by
Gordon Gano, the lead singer.  Not a cover.

-- 
Kevin Martin
sigma@ipl.rpi.edu
"We're gonna need another Timmy!"
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: tcw@kepler.unh.edu (Timothy C Webb)
Subject: Re: THE TEN MOST OVERRATED ROCK BANDS EVER(GNR)
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:56:21 GMT

In article <12431@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <1992Apr14.013537.15636@nic.unh.edu> tcw@kepler.unh.edu (Timothy C Webb) writes:
>>  I did make a comment here a while back about Guns n Roses not knowing how
>>to play their instruments, and I realize now that this was totally out of  
>>line. They probably know what they're doing, it just happens that I don't like
>>_what_ they're doing.
>
>So that's the real reason why you are so disparaging about Gun's and Roses and
>the other bands you don't like.  You don't like them, thus they suck. i

  That's funny. You seem to have deleted part of my post where I said that this
was only MY opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and if someone
else likes GnR that's fine. If I don't like them that's fine too. Part of the
purpose for my post was so I could apologize for trying to force my opinions on
other people, which was totally pointless for me to do.

>>  By the way, I listen to Yes (whom you may or may not care for), who happen
>>to play all of their music with real instruments, as well. 
> 
>Yes, Tim, we know that.  Youv'e had the Yes quote in your signature for awhile
>now.
>| John Fereira       

  Glad you noticed.              
-- 
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|     tcw@kepler.unh.edu      \       something really good..."               |
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From: ltc2f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Lois Therese Casaleggi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Do It Acappella
Date: 4 Apr 92 14:15:20 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Apr4.040044.24108@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> ia1cs240@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Jessica Harris) writes:
>In <702335961@macbeth.cs.duke.edu> kirk@cs.duke.edu (Scooter Corleone) writes:
>
>>I caught SPIKE AND CO. DO IT ACAPPELLA on TV the other night, and it was
>>awesome! Is there a soundtrack to this show? Does anyone have any
>>information on the groups that appeared? That was some *sweet* singing!
>
>>No worries,
the soundtrack is from Elektra (as mentioned) and the number is 9 60953-4.
definitely worth picking up!

--lois
From: yea045@muvms3.bitnet (Allen Clarkson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: repost:  JOHN HIATT FAN CLUB
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:46:19 GMT
Organization: Marshall University

I'm reposting this because I'm not sure if it went through the first time.  No
one I know here has been able to read it but maybe you can.  Anyway, here's the
address to write to for more information regarding the John HIatt Fan Club:


In the John . . . Hiatt Fan Club
Nashville  TN  37215

I hope that those who are intersted can read it this time and write in.  The
club includes newsletters about John, as well as cool premiums for joining and
great opportunities to get more items too.  So write the address above and tell
them that Allen Clarkson sent you.

THANKS

ACC  "Livin' the rest of the dream"
PO Box 158423
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 6 Apr 1992 15:28:41 CDT
From: <U38373@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Laura Nyro

Spencer Kantor writes:

>Her two post-Columbia releases, "New World" (I think that's the title)
>and "Live at the Bottom Line" were released on CD by Gold Castle but
>I believe both titles are sadly out-of-print.  I have run across copies
>in CD cut-out bins so you may be able to find a copy.
>
>--
>Spencer Kantor
>Bell Communications Research
>
>
>sek@nvuxr.cc.bellcore.com
>{bcr, bellcore}!nvuxr.cc.bellcore.com!seK

     "Bottom Line" was released on Cypress/A&M, not Gold Castle.  I have never
heard of the other, unless it's the soundtrack for a documentary on American
Indians, which came out in the late '80s, for which LN did the score.  The
former may still be readily available in the regular racks, so look there as
well as the cutout bins.

                                              Mitch Pravatiner
                                              U38373@uicvm.uic.edu