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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:32:14 -0500
From:         BCJ@PSUVM.BITNET
Subject:      The Great Leap Backward: ESTC + STC + P&R

Crossposted from ExLibris -- Laura Stalker (who's one of us, too) tells
of the proposed expansion of the ESTC to include many more years...

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From:         Laura Stalker <BM.E2L@RLG.BITNET>
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To:           Kevin Berland <BCJ@PSUVM.BITNET>

The Center for Bibliographical Studies at the University of
California, Riverside, is expanding the ESTC (Eighteenth-Century
Short Title Catalogue) database in RLIN to include the 1475-1700
period of English printing.  As with the ESTC, this project is
being undertaken in collaboration with the British Library.
For further details see the following article:  Snyder, Henry L.
"A Proposal: The English Short Title Catalogue", PBSA 82:3
(Sept. 1988), pp. 333-336.  You can also follow the progress
of the English Short Title Catalogue in Factotum, the newsletter
of the ESTC or by writing the ESTC editorial office at the
Center for Bibliographical Studies, University of California,
Riverside, Riverside, CA 92521-0154.

Laura Stalker
Assistant Director for Bibliographical Projects
Center for Bibliographical Studies

phone:  (714) 787-5841
fax:  (714) 787-3285
email:  BM.ESL@RLG

P.S.  Correction. Our area code just changed to 909.
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:34:27 -0500
From:         BCJ@PSUVM.BITNET
Subject:      National/International

     Last week saw a flurry of activity on C18-L as numerous subscribers
discussed the change in editorship at Eighteenth-Century studies.  It
seems important to point out that these messages concern primarily
members of the American Society for Eighteenth-Century Studies (ASECS),
and that there is no official connection between C18-L and ASECS.

    Thus, when John Dussinger commented:
> Assuming that all of you out there in electronic space have received
> the same announcement about the changes in the editorship of
> EIGHTEENTH-CENTURY STUDIES, I would like to ask as a preliminary
> whether our membership should not insist on a much more active parti-
> cipation in our e-mail format, despite the fact that many of our most
> distinguished scholars still remain outside the list...
    his use of the possessive pronoun "our" may seem a bit ambiguous.
I take it that "our" refers to the collective body of C18-L subscribers,
not to ASECS.  There is an overlap, but please remember that C18-L is
an international group, many of whose members may belong to other
societies.  We welcome the presence of the big ASECS movers & shakers
(our membership includes the current & immediate past presidents,
the regional coordinator & her immediate predecessor, and several
current & former executive board members), and we acknowledge the
openness with which they are willing to discuss the society's
business -- but please remember that we North Americans do not
wish to inundate our colleagues otherwhere with our own local
activities.

    To get an idea of where our subscribers live, send a message
to LISTSERV (not to C18-L !!!!)

Bitnet users:  TELL LISTSERV@PSUVM REVIEW C18-L COUNTRIES

Internet users: send a message to LISTSERV@PSUVM.PSU.EDU with
no subject line, and a message-text reading only:
REVIEW C18-L COUNTRIES

     We would all be happy to hear more of the 18th-century
activities of our friends across the water.

Kevin Berland for C18-L
From: BM.LPD@RLG.BITNET (Deborah Leslie)
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Subject: Library Company closing
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:24:05 GMT
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The Library Company of Philadelphia will be *closed* to the
public on Friday, November 20 and Wednesday, November 25 due
to our construction/renovation project.
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:44:26 EST
From:         Graham Wolff Christian <GRAHAM@HARVARDA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Groups
              20 Nov 1992 13:58:45 CST from <ac05@SOL.ACS.UNT.EDU>

OK,OK, I'm interested in matters Victorian as well. I'm tired of reading Annan'
s biography of Leslie Stephen on the sly; I'm tired of the looks I get from
store clerks when the name "Tennyson" drops from my lips; I'm tired of stopping
conversations cold by the mere mention of "Middlemarch." So now I'm out.
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:57:06 EST
From:         Mario Laureti <MLAURETI@UDESVM.BITNET>

3 bug with NETNEWS:

1)  It looks like some modules are missing in my installation
   of netnews (I have all modules that are specified in administrator
   guide.)  It is a simple routine, but is it the only routine missing?
   Here is the message:

12:39:23 Control message: NEWGROUP ALT.HYPNOSIS
  2429 +++              if wordpos('already exists with same data',msg) = 0
  1639 +++          call CmdAddGroup arg1 '= =' rest
   609 +++       call ProcessControlMsg head.control
   415 +++     call ProcessArticle            /* go process one article */
   183 +++   call ProcessReader
DMSREX478E Error 43 running NNSERVER EXEC, line 2429: Routine not found
LOGOFF AT 12:54:24 EST MONDAY 11/09/92 BY SYSTEM


2)  When I try to send a news with netpost, I get this message:

Ready;
netpost comp.ai test
RDR FILE 1064 SENT FROM MAILER   PUN WAS 9826 RECS 0031 CPY  001 M NOHOLD NOKEEP
PRT FILE 1065 SENT TO   RSCS     RDR AS  9304 RECS 0009 CPY  001 H NOHOLD NOKEEP
RDR FILE 1066 SENT FROM RSCS     RDR WAS 9304 RECS 0009 CPY  001 H NOHOLD NOKEEP
DMTAXM103E File 9304 (9304) rejected -- invalid destination address
Article saved in file NETPOST NOTEBOOK A0
Ready;
traceoff

Is there some special setting needed for RSCS?



3) Every time a send a purge command to netnews, the
   purge process is ending this way:

06:47:56 NNPURGE: Purge process complete
06:47:56 Purge used: 0:10:13.94 Elapsed
06:47:56 Purge used: 0:02:00.30 VCPU
06:47:56 Purge used: 0:02:09.19 TCPU
06:47:56 Sorting NETNEWS MSGIDS . . .
         SORT FIELDS=(1,123,CH,A)
06:48:02 Reading NETNEWS GROUPS file . . .
   372 +++        msg = CmdPurge(args)
   323 +++      call ProcessCommand userid umsg
   184 +++   call ProcessMessage
DMSREX450E Error 5 running NNSERVER EXEC, line 2687: Machine storage
exhausted
LOGOFF AT 07:07:07 EST TUESDAY 11/17/92 BY SYSTEM

Do I realy need more then 6meg?


                        Thanks in advance!

========================================================================
Universite de sherbrooke
Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
Mario Laureti

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From: MLAURETI@UDESVM.BITNET (Mario Laureti)
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Date: 18 Nov 92 19:01:02 GMT
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test

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Universite de sherbrooke
Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
Mario Laureti

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          mlaureti@vm1.si.usherb.ca
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From: kek@bullterrier.Eng.Sun.COM (Kevin Kalajan - SunConnect Product Marketing)
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Subject: Re: Need 3270 Asian language/DBCS emulator
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:21:17 GMT
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Sun sells a DB 3270 emulator in Taiwan. The local office can get you the product
information.

HTH

-kk
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From: dmeier@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Douglas Meier)
Subject: Test message, ignore.
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 08:38:52 GMT

Blah.


-- 
Douglas C. Meier		|  Spin with the archer now, and       
Northwestern University, ACNS 	|  laugh in his face as he cocks his  
This University is too Commie-	|  bow....  -The Guess Who
Lib Pinko to have these views.	|  dmeier@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
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From: ndasmith@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Noah Smith)
Subject: MAKING COLLEGE A BETTER PLACE
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Organization: Northwestern University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 05:54:02 GMT

Hello!  My name is Noah Smith, and I'm a senator in Nortwestern's sga (We
call ours ASG for Associated Student Government).  As a member of the
External Relations Committee, it is my mission in life to find out if
anybody out there in netland (especially sga members around the world) has
ideas on how to improve universities.  Although I will accept any SERIOUS
(no flaming, please) ideas that come my way, I've been instructed to look
especially for ideas on race relations and campus safety, as well as if you
know about any upcoming student leadership conferences.  After I get a
couple of replies, I (or another member of the External Relations Committee
under my address) will post letters about what we've done and planning to
do here at Northwestern.  
I'll tell ya, it took A LONG TIME to find this newsgroup, but I was
disappointed to find so few items.  Let's use this group to its fullest
potential: let's share ideas.  Thanks a lot!
 
                                          Yours truly, 
                                           Noah D. Smith,
                                           ASG Senator-Northwestern U.,
                                                       Evanston, IL, USA
                                           Member:External Relations     
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 11:36:19 EST
From:         Kenneth A Gideon <gideon@CS.ODU.EDU>
Subject:      clinton's promise

ST2975@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU writes:
 > President-elect Clinton has promised to review the military's policy on
 > gays in the service.  Is this a good or a bad thing?  The military's top
 > brass is against any change - surprise, surprise.  What do you think?

I think it is a good thing.  There is not reason, at least in my mind, why
this ban exists in today's society.

Ken
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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1992 14:12:51 -0500
From:         "(SENATOR PAUL F. HARTLEB REP.)" <HARTLEB_PAF@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Subject:      Clintons's Promise

I live in Connecticut(CT), and I believe cutting back on Defense is important,
but CT is a big defense contracting state.  Cutting defense means many more
layoffs which  won't help CT's economy any.  But I also feel it it time to start
to rebuild this country once again.  I am glad I will not be graduating for
two years, maybe then the job outlook in CT will be better.

					Paul Hartleb
					HARTLEB_PAF@CCSU.CTSTATEU.EDU
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:26:56 -0700
From:         DISTRICT STUDENT GOVERNMENT <STUGOV@PIMACC.PIMA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Clintons's Promise

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:37:32 EST
From:         Lola V Rephann <lvr2@CUNIXA.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Accessibilty at other Campuses

Paul,
Hello.  My name is Lola Rephann.  I am a junior at Columbia College in
New York City but I'm from New Haven!  Anyway, I am VP of my class, sit
on council, do the whole bit.  I am not disabled, but the Vice Chair of
our council is partially disabled.  Since Columbia is such a vertical
campus, he has a lot of trouble getting around.  I know he was writing
a report about our library's inaccesibility (the stacks isles are too
narrow to accomdate a wheelchair.)  I don't know his email adress, but
if you write back, if interested, I could try and hook him up to you.
Also, try writing Shawn Landres at jsl7 at the same address as mine.
Good luck!
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:58:00 EST
From:         Shawn Landres <jsl7@CUNIXA.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Student/Youth Socio-Political Organizations

I'm doing an extended research and writing project on the political
socialization of the younger cohort of the twentysomething generation (born
between 1967 and 1981). My focus is on broad trends in sociopolitical
attitudes, efficacy, and participation.

Can anyone:
1) recommend primary (or close secondary) source material
and/or
2) send me contact names and numbers at organizations set up and run by members
of this generational cohort ?

Please be aware that this is *not* an examination of student activism per se
nor is it limited to any part of the political spectrum. I need all sides and
all viewpoints.

Thanks much,

Shawn Landres
jsl7@columbia.edu
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:55:37 -0400
From:         NANOOK OF THE NORTH '92 <KISCHALK@VASSAR.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Clintons's Promise

Take me off the mailing list please. Thanks.
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:34:24 -0500
From:         JCCE@GNV.IFAS.UFL.EDU
Subject:      Clinton's student aid proposal

As some of you may have noticed, the first actual program mentioned by Bill
Clinton in his victory speech on 11/3 was the aid-for-service proposal for
college students.  I think this is going to be our BIG issue during the coming
Congressional session.  Back in 1988-89 I organized graduate student support
for the "Citizens Corps" proposal as it was called then.  The proposal was put
forward by the DLC and it was backed by folks like Nunn, Mikulski,
Bentsen, Pell, McCurdy and Clinton.  I am pleased to see it being revived and
revised.

I found it very difficult to generate support among the NAGPS members
(National Association of Graduate-Professional Students).  At that time the
proposal did not have a payroll-deduction repayment option; service was the
only way grants could be earned or repaid.  Under the revised Citizen Corps
proposal the primary objection of students has been removed.  Students should
be much more supportive of the proposal than they were in 1989.

I would like to see some information and discussion of this issue on the net.
Are the USSA users of the network able to provide us with details of the new
proposal?  Does anyone else have information about it?  Back in 1989 the
Univ. of Michigan lobbyist, Mr. Thomas Butts, was very helpful.  I also recall
that the man who developed the proposal, Professor Moskos of Northwestern,
was very happy to discuss the initiative.  Does anyone have contact with these
gentlemen?

John Capece
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:47:52 -0500
From:         "(SENATOR PAUL F. HARTLEB REP.)" <HARTLEB_PAF@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Subject:      Accessibility

Hi, all SGA Netters.

I am really impressed with the responses I received regarding accessibility at
different campus.

I was trying to get a feel for what people thought regarding the subject of
accessibility.  I believe I have accomplished that, but PLEASE DON'T STOP
SENDING MESSAGES ON THIS SUBJECT IF YOU HAVE MORE TO ADD.  I know for myself I
have been at CCSU too long that I don' t really know what is truly
inaccessible anymore.  I travel my usual routes and think nothing of it anymore.
So I have decide is it time for me to start to work with and/or fight the
administration in getting a more accesible campus.   Over the summer I looked
at the campus and wrote a report regarding the subject.  I am in the process of
revising it with student input.  I plan to release it early next semester and
work with the administration and the state to get needed I realize it will take
time, patients(sp) and money.  But I will help the future Handicapable student
that might enter CCSU some day.

Thanks again. Please send any other comments you may have.


				Paul Hartleb
				Hartleb_PaF@CCSU.CTSTATEU.EDU
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 11:48:10 EST
From:         Kenneth A Gideon <gideon@CS.ODU.EDU>
Subject:      Accessibilty at other Campuses

"(SENATOR PAUL F. HARTLEB REP.)" writes:
 > Hi all SGA Netters.

Hi Paul.
 >
 > I am Paul, a Senator on the SGA at Central Conncticut State University.  I am
 > also disabled.  I can not even get into our SGA office.

I'm Ken, a senator of the SGA at Old Dominion University, and Executive
Director of the Student Association of Virginia.

 >
 > I just was wondering if other people at different campuses thought their
 campus
 > and buildings were easy to get around in or not with a wheelchair.  Here at
 > Central, accesibility varies from building to building.  I am working on a
 > report to try to make much needed changes on campus.

Our campus is very accessible for the disabled students.  We have ramps in
every building, and elevators in all of our buildings except for two of the
dorms.  The disabled students are not placed in these dorms.  We have a person
whose title is Director of Disabled Student Services, and all of these issues
fall under her jurisdiction.  Our SGA works closely with her on issues that
need to be addressed.
 >
Ken Gideon
gideon@cs.odu.edu
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 11:41:38 EST
From:         Kenneth A Gideon <gideon@CS.ODU.EDU>
Subject:      Clintons's Promise

"(SENATOR PAUL F. HARTLEB REP.)" writes:
 > I live in Connecticut(CT), and I believe cutting back on Defense is
 important,
 > but CT is a big defense contracting state.  Cutting defense means many more
 > layoffs which  won't help CT's economy any.  But I also feel it it time to
 start
 > to rebuild this country once again.  I am glad I will not be graduating for
 > two years, maybe then the job outlook in CT will be better.
 >
I live in Virginia Beach, VA, right next to Norfolk, which has the largest
Naval Base in the world, as well as one of the largest ship building companies
in the country.  It will really hurt our areas economy, however, I am all for
some defense cuts.  It is time to redirect some of the money from the military
to our educational systems.

Ken
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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 09:15:12 MST
Reply-To:     PI <pi@helpdesk.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
From:         Kurt Jaeger aka PI <Kurt.Jaeger@RUS.UNI-STUTTGART.DE>
Subject:      Re: MAKING COLLEGE A BETTER PLACE
              Smith" at Nov 21, 92 5:54 am

Hi!

> especially for ideas on race relations and campus safety, as well as if you
> know about any upcoming student leadership conferences.

There's a conference called Chiasmus 93, that will happen in
fall next year. There are two candidates that want to organise
the event, Aarhus U in Denmark and Moskow State U (in Moskow, where else).

The coordinaters that do a voting about the place of the event are

        USU of Slovakia
        Leskova 5
        Slovakia 81104 Bratislava
        Tel. ++42 7 497 146
        FAX  ++42 7 497 309

Ask them about the outcome and get the adresse of the organisers of
next year after Dec. 5th (end of votes). [Remark: The vote is
done from the list of participants of Chiasmus 92, in Istanbul.]

Chiasmus 93 is called the European Student Meeting. Its not a
"leadership" conference in Your words, but I'm not sure what You
mean with this, anyway 8)

                So long, PI

--
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From: EL00@SIUEMUS.BITNET (Jim Andris)
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Subject: clinton's promise
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:15:05 GMT
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Regarding Clinton's promise to review and reverse the ban
on homosexuals in the military, it's clearly a civil rights
issue.  This country needs everyone, as Clinton said, and
further, evaluation should be based on performance and not
on group membership.  Discrimination is discrimination.
If you look carefully at the reasons that are being bandied
about for not reversing the ban on homosexuals in the
military, they are almost identical to the kinds of things
that were said about blacks and women in the military.
Fact is, it is only people's discriminatory attitudes that
is keeping this an issue.

Jim Andris
Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:28:44 EST
From:         Shawn Landres <jsl7@CUNIXA.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Clinton's student aid proposal

I was a non-USSA student advocate during the 1991-92 reauthorization of
the Higher Education Act and have testified a number of times before
Congress. In fact, I testified in favor of income-contingent loans (the
payroll deduction part of the Clinton plan) just this February. I was
also involved in the Clinton campaign and discussed policy options with
Clinton and with his policy people.

As far as I know, the details of the plan have not been fleshed out. I
am also unaware of the schedule anticipated for the proposal (i.e.
first 100 days or later). I am, however, confident that the new
administration will welcome student involvement.

Shawn Landres
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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1992 12:29:00 CST
From:         SENATE@GACVAX1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: clinton's promise

It is a good thing that Clinton means to bring the military in-line with the
rest of 20th century America.
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