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From: ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,scot.general,ed.general
Subject: Re: I've lost my biscuits!
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:59:15 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <11440@burns.ed.ac.uk>, tkld@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Kevin Davidson) writes:
> I've lost my biscuits !
 
I'm sorry but this message is clearly in the wrong newsgroup. Surely
it should be uk.bisc not uk.misc :-)

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From: gdg019@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Ridley McIntyre)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Laser Printer Costs
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:18:59 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Pig Heaven, Coventry, UK

It's been pointed out that this would get read by more people here than
midlands.general , so here you are. I originally argued against putting 
it here, because of all the companies and stuff, but it can't hurt, I 
suppose, so I'v backed down...

Here in Coventry Uni we're having a bit of a debate about whether we should
be charged for laser printouts of course-work through our main network. I
was just wondering if any of the other Midlands Unis get charged for your
print-outs and if you really mind. Do you feel you are over-charged if you do
get charged? How much do you have to pay? How is it organised so that you
can't just print out stuff and then refuse to pay.

Thanks in advance and all that,

Rid McIntyre.
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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns)
Subject: Re: Stamp Question
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 11:31:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.102253.21267@rs6000.bham.ac.uk>, simpsong@dns0.bham.ac.uk (Glyn Simpson) writes:
|> David Smith (DKSmith@msor.exeter.ac.uk) wrote:
|> > Why do charities collect used postage stamps?
|> [...]
|> With the single market, we'll all have to use EC stamps, with Jacque Delors'
|> head on it....and draw your own conclusions who is going to place his head
|> there !

This, even in jest (as it apparently is), is the sort of garbage that
raises fumes from the head of the average TATSP Sun-writer, and makes
still harder the business of getting a working EC going.

[Takes off his pedant's outfit...]
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From: sut@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Secure Unix Team KID01)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: How do you claim?
Date: 12 Nov 92 11:29:14 GMT
Organization: ICL Bracknell, UK

In article <1992Nov11.184649.12031@city.cs> lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun) writes:
>A car went into the back of our car over the weekend. The person
>at fault admitted guilt and supplied names and addresses. He had
>a company car and company insurance. We have 3rd party fire and
>theft, plus loss recovery.

Mmmmh, don't think that the company issurers will be over the moon about
the driver admitting guilt. Alot of companies have a policy that
employees never admit guilt.

>The question is, what can I claim for and how to go about it?
>Is it better to let my insurance company approach the other
>insurance company? Will it affect my no-claims bonus? Would it
>be quicker to approach the company that owns the car?

There is nothing wrong with approaching the company, it may work out cheaper
for them to write the debt off, if you get an estimate. 
A small haulage firm paid by dad off this way as their issurance premiums were high enough already.

I know this is not much consolation for you, but next time ask your broker
if you can get General Legal Protection, or something similar. I got it free
and it entitles you to 24hr legal advice, car hire for 28 days,claims
assistance, vehicle rec., messages service, roadside windscreen replacement and
up to 25K legal expenses. With their help I got a letter of apology off the
police for a computer blunder by them!

best wishes
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From: gdg019@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Ridley McIntyre)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: humor in England
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:11:14 GMT
Organization: Pig Heaven, Coventry, UK

In article <1dp1toINNmkq@bnsgd245.bnr.co.uk> bocmunro@bnr.co.uk (Bruce Munro) writes:
>In article <721261643snz@kram.demon.co.uk> mt@kram.demon.co.uk writes:
>>
>>You forgot the most important question.... why can't you get decent gravy
>>from any chip-shops in London?
>
>Yuck! Who'd want gravy on chips anyway! In fact who'd want chips? Real
>Londoners go to Nathans (pronounced Nayfuns) Pie and Eel shop by Upton
>Park Football Ground, where you can tuck into a "Two pie, two mash and
>liquor please, luv". Or how about some 'ot eels? Luvverly!

You sad cockney. I have been to Nayfuns once and it was foul. I truly
can't abide that green puke they serve with everything there. It really
is dire when people try to advertise such a shitehouse as London by it's
worst attributes. And this from someone who was born and bred there.
Ugh! Just the memory makes me want to vomit. Just makes me think of Pete
Beale and "Lads" chatting up "Birds" and facetious cockney "Barra-Boys"
selling winkles in the local Rub-A-Dub. What a sad existence they all
lead... 8*) 
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From: tkld@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Kevin Davidson)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,scot.general,ed.general
Subject: I've lost my biscuits!
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:48:49 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: HCRC/CogSci

I've lost my biscuits !

The Wm Low near here (Newington, Edinburgh) used to stock Cafe Noir biscuits,
but doesn't any longer.

I don't remember the manufacturer; they are rectangular hard, dry biscuits with
a layer of gorgeous coffee icing. Last seen in a black packet, possibly with
ingredients in Dutch - though that may be fantasy on my part.

Anyone know where I can still get hold of some ?
Scotland or Yorkshire areas preferred...

thanks,
	.Kevin.

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From: william@castle.ed.ac.uk (William Warburton)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Stamp Question
Date: 13 Nov 92 10:41:37 GMT
Reply-To: W.Warburton@ed.ac.uk
Organization: Edinburgh University Computing Service

|> ken@aiai.ed.ac.uk (Ken Johnson) writes:
|> >In other words, philately will get you nowhere. 
|> 
   (Mark Schnitzius) writes:
|> I hear that imitation is the sincerest form of philately.

 OK, OK: enough guys. We have to stamp this stuff out.

	W.

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From: cs89rdb@brunel.ac.uk (Roger D Binns)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Laser Printer Costs
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:29:24 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Ridley McIntyre (gdg019@cch.coventry.ac.uk) wrote:
: Here in Coventry Uni we're having a bit of a debate about whether we should
: be charged for laser printouts of course-work through our main network. I
: was just wondering if any of the other Midlands Unis get charged for your
: print-outs and if you really mind. Do you feel you are over-charged if you do
: get charged? How much do you have to pay? How is it organised so that you
: can't just print out stuff and then refuse to pay.

The situation in Brunel is that there is a laser printer available.  Any output
to this printer is charged at 5p a sheet.  You can send whatever you
want, but if you do do somehting ridiculous like send a job that takes 3 hours,
it will be deleted if others are waiting.

Supposedly the computer centre does make a slight loss at this rate 
(depreciation, staffing costs, equipment & facilities).  From what I can 
gather, it is just a fact of life to most students.  The cost isn't too high, 
and 5p is a round number.  I suspect that if it became anything other than a 
multiple of 5p, people would rise up.

The average essay is up to 5 pages.  At two drafts, that adds up to 75p.  Of
course doing your final year project could be quite a bit more expensive, but
you only do that once, and getting a good result is of far higher priority than
niggling over a few pounds.

Mind you, we do also have access to a cheap and cheerful line printer for which
there is no charge.

Roger
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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: dhd@exnet.co.uk (Damon)
Subject: Re: Stamp Question
Organization: ExNet Systems Ltd Public Access News, London, UK
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:36:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.102253.21267@rs6000.bham.ac.uk> G.Simpson@bham.ac.uk writes:
>David Smith (DKSmith@msor.exeter.ac.uk) wrote:
>> Why do charities collect used postage stamps?
>
>[lots deleted]
>
>> 
>> The stamp collecting press has regular adverts for British and 
>> foreign kiloware;  some can be very pricy.  (French especially,
>> since recycling stamps hasn't caught on there yet.  It will all
>> change with the single market, when everyone will be forced to
>> save their used stamps and donate them to an EC-approved charity :-) )
>> 
>With the single market, we'll all have to use EC stamps, with Jacque Delors'
>head on it....and draw your own conclusions who is going to place his head
>there !

Lord Tebbit, with a blunderbuss I should imagine.  B^>

Damon
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From: ian@eonsw.demon.co.uk (Ian Leonard)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Satellite Dishes
Date: 9 Nov 92 10:15:49 GMT
Organization: EON Software, Oxford, UK

In article <1992Nov8.160023.22650@black.ox.ac.uk> tbrann@black.ox.ac.uk (Tony Brannigan) writes:
>Hi,
>   in Oxford there are a lot of listed buildings with people living in
>them, but because they are listed, we aren't allowed to put a satellite
>dishe on the roof.  Does anyone know any way round this?

Oxford doesn't have a great deal going for it, but one thing it does
have is it's architecture. Why do you want to cover everything with
bits of metal? TV aerials are bad enough. This should answer your first
question. For the second, I have two suggestions. 1. If possible run a
cable to a near building and put you dish there. 2. Ignore the rules
like everyone else does. Try ringing around a few shops. They must come
up against this one all the time round here. 

This reply assumes that you want to use your dish for TV as opposed to
astronomical activities.



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From: tjfs@tadtec.uucp (Tim Steele)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Not Really Re: Satellite Dishes
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:55:21 GMT
	<1992Nov12.092254.29090@pierrot.comlab.ox.ac.uk>
Distribution: uk
Organization: Tadpole Technology plc

In article <1992Nov12.092254.29090@pierrot.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Geraint.Jones@comlab.oxford.ac.uk (Geraint Jones) writes:

   It is traditional to disguise them as fibreglasse sharkes.		 
   
Oh no!  Dan Quayle is back under a pseudonym!

Tim
From: Geraint.Jones@comlab.oxford.ac.uk (Geraint Jones)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Satellite Dishes
Date: 12 Nov 92 09:22:54 GMT
Organization: The Phallic Club
Originator: geraint@pierrot.comlab

tbrann@black.ox.ac.uk (Tony Brannigan) wrote:
(     in Oxford there are a lot of listed buildings with people living in
 ) them, but because they are listed, we aren't allowed to put a satellite
(  dishe on the roof.  Does anyone know any way round this?

It is traditional to disguise them as fibreglasse sharkes.		 g
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: dhd@exnet.co.uk (Damon)
Subject: Re: UK Time Servers ?
Organization: ExNet Systems Ltd Public Access News, London, UK
Distribution: uk
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:26:32 GMT

In article <dhs.721577645@issun3> dhs@is.city.ac.uk (David Sheryn) writes:
>Do any sites in the UK offer a publicly accessible time service, or are prepared
>to enter into a bilateral agreement?

I'd like to know if there is, but in the meantime I have the number of
a V22b modem in Sweden that gives Atomic time in ASCII...

Damon
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From: lsg001@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Graham Wilson)
Subject: Re: Stamp Question
Organization: Legal Department - Coventry University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:23:09 GMT

In article <7906@skye.ed.ac.uk> ken@aiai.ed.ac.uk (Ken Johnson) writes:
>
>In article <BxJp7w.4oJ@cen.ex.ac.uk> DKSmith@msor.exeter.ac.uk (David
>Smith) writes:
>
>#  GB postage stamps, even the common ones with the Queen's head on, can be
>#  sold to one of the wholesalers.  But it is not a way to get rich quick. 


** The Halifax building society were placed in a difficult position two
   years ago. A few of their branches started collecting stamps for 
   charity. Apparently, several companies were offering to purchase 
   any UK stamps. The Halifax gave the money received to several charities.

   Although many of the stamp collecting companies are genuine and do sell
   the stamps abroad, there are several companies who use this method to
   defraud the post office. The stamps are placed into chemicals which 
   disolve the glue and allow the stamps to float free of the envelope
   backing. They are then placed into solvent which removes the franking
   mark from the front. The stamps are then re-glued and look like they are 
   new.

   The company concerned then offers cheap bulk mailing of junk mail  
   to large national companies. By using re-faced second hand 
   stamps they are able to offer the service at a very cheap rate which is
   much lower than any competitor.

   The Post Office investigation unit have uncovered at least two instances
   where stamps have been recycled in this manner.

   
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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: dhd@exnet.co.uk (Damon)
Subject: Re: change. Time for a
Organization: ExNet Systems Ltd Public Access News, London, UK
Distribution: uk
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:34:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.183452.3167@infodev.cam.ac.uk> gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry) writes:
>In article <BxJxt8.C3z@cck.coventry.ac.uk> gdg019@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Ridley McIntyre) writes:
>>
>>Nothing elitist about getting a First. Means you've worked hard for it.
>>If you work hard, then you reap the benefits. It's that simple. 
>
>No it's not.  I know people who worked extremely hard and got a Third,
>and I know people who didn't work terribly hard and got a First (and
>all sorts of other combinations, naturally).  The main thing exam
>marks measure is how good people are at exams, which is not a very
>useful ability in most jobs.

I claim that a First indicates that you fit into the academic
establishment well and do things the `establishment' way, like
answering how the examiner wants you to rather than with the right
answer as but one example.  (This is often very different as some of
the people lecturing me have been *plonkers*---I don't usually do very
well in their exams!)

But I'm biased.  I didn't get a First.

On the other hand, the one guy who did on my (Joint Hons, AI & CS)
course, turned into a recluse to get the work done to get his First.  I
once labeled him the `Social Cabbage', and if you know how untrendy *I*
am you'll see why, in the end, I can feel less bad about not putting in
the effort.  (This presupposes I could have got a First if I *had*
worked, of course B^> B^>.)

Damon
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From: gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Subject: Re: change. Time for a
Reply-To: gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Distribution: uk
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:34:52 GMT

In article <BxJxt8.C3z@cck.coventry.ac.uk> gdg019@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Ridley McIntyre) writes:
>
>Nothing elitist about getting a First. Means you've worked hard for it.
>If you work hard, then you reap the benefits. It's that simple. 

No it's not.  I know people who worked extremely hard and got a Third,
and I know people who didn't work terribly hard and got a First (and
all sorts of other combinations, naturally).  The main thing exam
marks measure is how good people are at exams, which is not a very
useful ability in most jobs.

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Newsgroups: uk.misc,talk.bizarre
From: schnitzi@cs.ucf.edu (Mark Schnitzius)
Subject: Re: Stamp Question
Organization: University of Central Florida
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:25:53 GMT

ken@aiai.ed.ac.uk (Ken Johnson) writes:

>In article <BxJp7w.4oJ@cen.ex.ac.uk> DKSmith@msor.exeter.ac.uk (David
>Smith) writes:

>#  GB postage stamps, even the common ones with the Queen's head on, can be
>#  sold to one of the wholesalers.  But it is not a way to get rich quick. 

>In other words, philately will get you nowhere. 

I hear that imitation is the sincerest form of philately.

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But I have no idea what it means.
From: Alan.Holmes@brunel.ac.uk (Alan J Holmes)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: humor in England
Date: 12 Nov 92 12:52:05 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK

In article <721261643snz@kram.demon.co.uk> mt@kram.demon.co.uk writes:
 >In article <7065@pharaoh.cyborg.bt.co.uk> martin@pharaoh.cyborg.bt.co.uk writes:
 >>
 >>Oh, and last thing, the most important, is the stupid and pointless
 >>complaining about things which don't matter. Whereever you go, say that:
 >>
 >>the water is too hard/too soft;
 >>you can't get a decent cup of tea;
 >>you think the beer's watered down;
 >>your room is too hot/cold/dry/humid/noisy/quite;
 >>the new 20p/5p/10p coins are too small and the 5pound note looks like the
 >> 10/20.
 >
 >You forgot the most important question.... why can't you get decent gravy
 >from any chip-shops in London?
 
Who on earth puts GRAVY on their chips, its either vinegar or
nothing.

 >Regards,
 >
 >Mark.
 
 Regards

 Alan
Newsgroups: uk.telecom,sci.electronics
From: tgamble@cimage.com (Rick Campbell /10000)
Subject: Re: Help required with Telephone project
Organization: Cimage Corp, Ann Arbor, MI
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 13:48:17 GMT


What IC are you using for speech synthesis?

RC
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From: phudl@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr S J Liddicott)
Newsgroups: uk.telecom,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Help required with Telephone project
Date: 12 Nov 1992 19:23:45 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk
Keywords: telephone

In article <1992Nov11.120103.29077@specialix.co.uk> martin@specialix.co.uk (Martin) writes:
>Please help!
>
>I am trying to design a device that will answer the phone and decode DTMF
<etc>
>how to:
>
>  a) get the device to answer the phone
>  b) interface the synthesised speech to the phone line
>
>The device will need to be isolated from the phone line, I suppose.  How is 
>this done in answering machines etc.?

Which reminds me: What does "indirect connection".
The easiest solution seems to me (easy as far as legalness) is to use
a real telephone in a soundproof box, interfaced like an old accoustic
modem and with a solenoid rigged up to to the hang up switch.

There must be a nicer (easy) legal way...

Or to go for nasty cheapness, buy a #15 phone, and replace the mic.
and speaker with your own stuff, with a relay as the hangup.

And finally for less nasty cheapness, use an answermachine which is
already properly isolated, and has buffered connections for sound AND
ring detect circuitry etc.

JMHO


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From: dhd@exnet.co.uk (Damon)
Newsgroups: uk.telecom,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Help required with Telephone project
Keywords: telephone
Date: 13 Nov 92 13:27:55 GMT
Organization: ExNet Systems Ltd Public Access News, London, UK

In article <1dub01INN76u@clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk> phudl@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr S J Liddicott) writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.120103.29077@specialix.co.uk> martin@specialix.co.uk (Martin) writes:
>>Please help!
>>
>>I am trying to design a device that will answer the phone and decode DTMF
><etc>
>>how to:
>>
>>  a) get the device to answer the phone
>>  b) interface the synthesised speech to the phone line
>>
>>The device will need to be isolated from the phone line, I suppose.  How is 
>>this done in answering machines etc.?
>
>Which reminds me: What does "indirect connection".
>The easiest solution seems to me (easy as far as legalness) is to use
>a real telephone in a soundproof box, interfaced like an old accoustic
>modem and with a solenoid rigged up to to the hang up switch.

I don't think even that will do legally.  By `indirect' the law
doesn't just mean `electrically', I think.

Damon
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