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From: cikan@edwin.par.univie.ac.at (Edwin Cikan)
Subject: Re: Someone's account
Reply-To: cikan@par.univie.ac.at
Organization: University of Vienna
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:41:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.173556.16470@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, nilsuwan@cae.wisc.edu (Sunchai Nilsuwankosit) writes:
|> I do not know if you feel interested in this thing or not.
|> Try finger this account "anand@chulkn.chula.ac.th".
|> I think you know whose account is this.
|> What good do you think we can do with this knowledge?
|> 
|> Sunchai Nilsuwankosit
|> 

Hi,

for me information like this is always useful. Whenever I am sending e-mail
to a person I can also figure out if the receiver read my mail or not. So
if there is no answer within a certain period of time I can finger the account
to look after it. I know a lot of people because of the net, but not personally.
If there are people supplying more information by using .plan, .project and so 
on I am able to know more about this person. I think `finger` is a useful command.
When you do finger @chulkn.chula.ac.th you can also see who is currently logged on,
thus you have possibility to see the actitivities there.
 
Regards,

-- 
Edwin CIKAN
Systems Administrator

University of Vienna
Department for statistics and computer science
Bruenner Strasse 72
A-1210 Vienna, Austria (EUROPE)

e-mail: cikan@par.univie.ac.at (Internet)
Tel.:   +43 1 392647-206
From: trin@tlaeng.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Help Our Unfortunate Kids
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:27:13 +0700
Organization: Digital Equipment (Thailand), Ltd.
Keywords: bbs, ngo

One may contact the Computer Communication Access for NGOs (CCAN) BBS at
+66-2-2089373, CCITT V.22bis, 2400bps, 8-bit, no parity. The BBS supports
bilingual Thai/English messages/menus. Thai character set is TIS 620-2533.
Subsequent English menus will be used once one chose "E" from the bilingual
main menu. No registration fee. No usage fee. You pay your phone bill.

There is a Fidonet link to this BBS. You may get in touch with some NGOs by
droping a mail to all@f3.n608.z6.fidonet.org, or to the SysOp
Yongchai.Jerdampai@f3.n608.z6.fidonet.org.

It might take some time to get the response if you send e-mail to this BBS.
Thailand gateway BBS does not pick up her mail packet from the US everyday.
CCAN also does not pick up her mail from the gateway BBS in Bangkok
everyday. The Fidonet link is quite sensitive to traffic since it's based on
a dial-up line. Cost for netmail is covered by donation from a few (very
few) modemers in Bangkok. Funding pool for international link is not healthy
at all.

So, keep your message brief and =NO= hello/how-are-you/who're-on-your-bbs 
kind of message please.

Thanks.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: wtuntaw@jordan.utah.edu (Wisanu Truntawiroon)
Subject: Re: Thai Fonts For MS-Windows?
Keywords: Find it in snake.mcs.kent.edu
Organization: University of Utah
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 23:09:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug22.225842.20549@fcom.cc.utah.edu> wtuntaw@jordan.utah.edu (Wisanu Truntawiroon) writes:
>test

MS-Windows font that you find it in snake.mcs.kent.edu need a keybord driver to control all the extened characters. Now you can get a software from Bangkok like TSM for windows that act like ATM. I have been using it for about 6-7 months with no problem except if you want to dump file to postscript file.

					Wisanu Tuntawiroon.
From: meechan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Korbkiat Meechan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: test
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:47:48 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.thai
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Originator: meechan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu


                 test!
From: ccav86@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("T.Laochaiwat")
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Thai Fonts For MS-Windows?
Keywords: Find it in snake.mcs.kent.edu
Date: 22 Aug 92 20:31:51 GMT
Organization: University of Strathclyde

Term.
From: kamol@munnari.oz.AU (Kamol Hengkietisak)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Aug 20: Could you believe this?
Date: 20 Aug 1992 07:04:11 +1000
Organization: Mail/News gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: munnari.oz.au

Samak reveals startling survey findings
 
     PRACHAKORN Thai leader Samak Sundaravej yesterday revealed a 
surprising survey predicting the PTP will gain a clean sweep of 
all 35 seats in Bangkok. It also claims people favour him as the 
most suitable premier.
     Requests for comment on previous surveys which predict the 
downfall of the PTP in the September election sparked Mr Samak 
into claiming that a group called Huai Khwang 92 had made a 
nationwide survey showing Prachakorn Thai will win all Bangkok 
seats -- "with narrow victories in only a few constituencies".
     The PTP won two seats in Bangkok in the last election.
     According to other PTP candidates, the survey was made by 
members throughout the country following the registration of 
candidates and the outcome was presented to party executives 
yesterday.
     PTP members actually did not want him to reveal the findings 
because they expected the Press would not publish the "clean 
sweep" prediction, Mr Samak claimed.
     According to Mr Samak, those surveyed consider him most 
suitable as prime minister because he is a party leader and used 
to be deputy premier, was a minister five times and headed several 
parliamentary committees.
     Mr Samak alleged it is only the Press that does not support 
him.
     "Prachakorn Thai, under the pretext of moral principles, 
neither led people to death nor damaged the national economy. 
Which other party should be supported? Did Samak lead people to 
Phan Fa, stand on a car and ring a bell (during the May events)?" 
Mr Samak said.
     Mr Samak said he intends to convey the PTP's policies 
directly to the public in a live telecast on September 9 and the 
May events will be mentioned during 30% of the two-hour programme.
     If elected to Parliament, the PTP will vote against the 
executive amnesty decree pardoning all those involved in the May 
events, he said.
     This was because the PTP wanted those involved in the 
incident to be arrested, he said. Unlike the demonstrators, 
soldiers would not be affected because their crackdown was 
legitimate according to the law.
     Responding to PollWatch members' claims that five PTP 
candidates were involved in vote-cheating, Mr Samak challenged 
whether PollWatch dared to identify the candidates.
     If PollWatch is courageous enough, it should ask the Interior 
Ministry to ban yellow slips from being used in place of ID cards 
on election day, Mr Samak said, adding tens of thousands of the 
slips have been used to benefit some parties in the election.
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: meechan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Korbkiat Meechan)
Subject: Re: Ban Chiang Civilization
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 20:05:42 GMT

>From uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!mips!mips!decwrl!access.usask.ca!regina!meena.cc.uregina.ca!emaruchi Sat Aug 22 14:38:57 CDT 1992
>Article: 3204 of soc.culture.thai
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
>Path: uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!mips!mips!decwrl!access.usask.ca!regina!meena.cc.uregina.ca!emaruchi
>From: emaruchi@meena.cc.uregina.ca
>Subject: RE: Ban Chiang Civilization
>Message-ID: <22AUG92.08020943@meena.cc.uregina.ca>
>Sender: news@regina.cs.uregina.ca
>Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Sask., Canada
>References: <9208201309.AA01567@icomp01.lerc.nasa.gov> <22AUG199201223778@bestsd.sdsu.edu>
>Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 08:02:09 GMT
> Lines: 4

 >       Not only some ancient artifacts from different cultures look similar,
> but aslo does the nature.  For instance, some species of plants and animals
>(I can't recall their names) of the north and south pole are the same even
>though they have been separated by half of the globe distance.

       
	 I will have comments according to khun Tawit and khun Unalome on this
 this subject too. Due to khun Tawit's question on if ancient people knew
 something that we don't. I think some ancient artifacts from different culturesjust accidently look similar. The civilization in any cultures was evolved basedupon how ancient people lived and what they created from their thoughts and
maginations. So, it's not surprised that they, living in the opposite side of the world, would accidently have thought or developed the same things.

	 kobkiat

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~  If you think your life is stink, then look at Al Bundy's life.      ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~  From. Kobkiat Meechan           | Mechanical Engineering            ~
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: fstawit@ICOMP01.LERC.NASA.GOV (Tawit Chitsomboon)
Subject: Re: Aug 19: Chatichai Told to Ignore Poll
Originator: daemon@Condor.mcs.kent.edu
Organization: Kent Gateway
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:42:46 GMT


Subject: Re: Aug 19: Chatichai told to ignore polls
Organization: Institute for Computational Mechanics in Propulsion

In article <9208181808.AA00460@ipied.tu.ac.th> 
kamol@munnari.oz.AU (Kamol Hengkietisak) writes:

>............................
>     Mr Prachuab says a survey by the National Institute of 
>Development Administration, the results of which were made public 
>in the last week, show Democrat Party leader Chuan Leekpai is the 
>most popular choice for premier even though eligible voters prefer 
>to elect Palang Dharma Party candidates.
>............................

When will the government organizations like NIDA and others stop
polling public opinion about political issues? During the last
election, we saw the Police Department did the polling! 
Government officials are supposed to be nuetral in an election.
Conducting opinion poll is OK; but to announce it to the public
is another matter. I hope all of us see that this is not right
even though it seems as if it doesn't hurt anybody. And, how do
we know that these GOs are not leaning towards one party more than
the other. In other words, How do we know that the result of the
poll was not manipulated?

IMO, political poll like this should be banned, regardless of
who conducts the poll. I don't see any benefit of it other than
helping the ignorant ones to decide who they will vote for.
It may help the trailing parties to work harder to catch up; but
why do we need to help them? They are supposed to determine for
themselves how to win the election; that includeds conducting a
private poll for themselves.

BTW, the poll that these gov organizations should conduct is
to ask the people if their tax money should be spent conducting
poll? Or, Should the government be privatized for more efficiency?
[If so, our country can really be run like a business :-)

Thanks to Khun Kamol for his postings. I know there is little (if at all)
incentive for him to take the time to post. Don't you believe in
next life? :-) Good kamma will not disappear!

-Tawit
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sunday, 23 Aug 1992 09:23:51 CDT
From: Arnatt Klinsong <U45923@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: problem posting cuw152.zip please wait..

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From: sl2k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Schitt Laowattana)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: (S&T) Job Opportunity in Thailand
Date: 14 Aug 92 10:30:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.MeWzjAC00WBME3bWhn
Organization: Doctoral student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


    I discussed w/ Dr. Harit  Sutabutr, director of Metals and Materials
Technology National Center(MTEC), Royal Thai Government this morning. 
He informed me that MTEC is calling for applications for its research
positions . About 120 researchers(MS & Ph.D, New & Experienced) will be
needed within five years.  The salary is competitive with private
sectors and is negotiable.  If interested, please send your resume/CV to
hime directly:

            Dr. Harit  Sutabutr
            King Mongkut's Institute of Technology Thonburi
            91 Suksawasd 48  Ratburana, Bangmod
            Bangkok 10140, THAILAND 

            Tel. No. 428-4027, 428-3374, 427-4421, and 4270151-9
            Fax. No. 427-8077, 427-8787

    Since Dr. Harit is receiving applications for both MTEC and
FIBO(center of operation for FIeld roBOtics development).  Please
specify to which center you are applying.

    Information on Job Opportunity of other S&T Centers in Thailand is
being sent to me.  As always, I will post this info. in the netnews as
soon as I got it.

    For those of you whom I -cc- this info to.  Could you please help
distributing this information to Thai professionals and students nearby.
 Your help is highly appreciated.

Schitt(DJ)  Laowattana

****************************************************************************
Current Address in USA:

Department of Mechanical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
5000 Forbes Ave.
Pittsburgh, PA 15217
USA
Tel. No. 268-8880
Fax. No. 268-3348
e-mail: sl2k@andrew.cmu.edu


Permanent Address in Thailand:

Center of Operation for FIeld roBOtics Development(FIBO)
King Mongkut's Institute of Technology Thonburi
91 Suksawasd 48  Ratburana  Bangmod
Bangkok 10140, Thailand

Tel. No. 428-3374, 427-4421 and 4270151-9 Ext. 461
Fax. No. 427-8077, 427-8787

*****************************************************************************
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: yenbut@cs.washington.edu (Voradesh Yenbut)
Subject: Re: Amnesty for Arjarn Sulak?
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 19:26:55 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.003618.3084@memstvx1.memst.edu> charoe@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
>From: Charles Keyes <keyes@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
>
>	Ajarn Sulak is still in exile after ten months despite all of the
>political changes which have taken place in Thailand.  The charges against
>him, and especially the charge of lese majeste, have not been withdrawn so
>if he were to return he would still be arrested and prosecuted.  Thai
>students in Germany wrote a letter which was published a few days ago in
>the Thai newspaper <<Phucatkan>> (Manager) in which they asked why an
>amnesty has been extended to Suchina et al but not to Sulak.  I have also
>written a similar letter to the King and urge others to do the same.  I am
>including my letter.
>****
> [nice letter deleted]

A copy of the Thai students' letter in TIS-620 (need CU-writer or a
similar Thai system to read) along with Ajarn Sulak's response to that
letter to Bangkok Post can be found via anonymous ftp in
/pub/thaisys/thainews/sulak on june.cs.washington.edu.

If you would like to print the letters to your favorite printer, please
send me mail.  We'll see if I would be able to entertain you.

  Voradesh Yenbut
yenbut@cs.washington.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: nilsuwan@cae.wisc.edu (Sunchai Nilsuwankosit)
Subject: Someone's account
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 16 Aug 92 17:35:55 CDT

I do not know if you feel interested in this thing or not.
Try finger this account "anand@chulkn.chula.ac.th".
I think you know whose account is this.
What good do you think we can do with this knowledge?

Sunchai Nilsuwankosit

Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: cxp3276@usl.edu (Punyasai Chumnarn)
Subject: Shipping agencies: where to ship belongings
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 02:14:59 GMT

I am planning to go home by the end of next month.
I would appreciate if anyone could suggest the shipping 
agency I can trust, particularly in the south area, i.e.
Texas or Louisiana. I want to ship some of my belongings back.
I don't want to go to California--it is too far from Louisiana,
by the way.

... I heard the rumor that there is a shipper in Los 
Angeles area try to cheat the
customer by delaying the delivery with some silly executes.
Is this true or just the way this type of bussiness works?
Can anyone give a name of that agency. If you are not 
comfortable to disclose it on the net just mail me.

	
Thanks in advance.

chumnarn.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: sl2k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Schitt Laowattana)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Part(6):Major Problems and Limitations in S&TD in Thailand
Date: 12 Aug 92 10:03:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.keWJ_Ai00UhB82b3g4
Organization: Doctoral student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


    I hope that Thai professionals ,who have lots of experiences, won't
stand still when there is demand for their helps (, eventhough, it's not
publicly advertised).  Below is  a series of information on "Major
Problems and Limitation in S&TD in Thailand".  Please share your helps
and opinions in these important issues.
 
Your Respectfully,
Schitt(DJ)

==========================================================================

            Part(6): Lack of R&D and Innovation Activities

    Real R&D and innovation activities in producing firm are very
limited at present due to the following reasons:

    * Such activities are not necessary for joint-venture firms because
they are oerformed in parent companies overseas.  Attempts to set up R&D
facilities in Thailand will face several difficulties including the lack
of infrastructural support and qualified personel.

    * Large Thai firms also face similar difficulties in the setting up
of R&D facilities.  Typical large Thai firms import packaged
technologies which eliminate the need for R&D.  Some large Thai firm,
however, have started to set up separate R&D units.

    * R&D investment is, by its very nature, high risk and the return on
inverstment, if any, is very long-term.  Most Thai firms seek short-term
profits and, therefore, are not invested in R&D.

    * Most Thai firms which are, by international standards, small to
medium scale cannot afford to invest or maintain R&D facilities as they
are extremely expensive.  The maintaince of highly qualified R&D
personel, if they can be recuited at all, will also ber very expensive. 
The government has not yet taken measures to effectively promote R&D
activities in producing firms.

=============================================================================
Hang on tight! for Part(7) on Management Attitude......in this net.


Posted by

Schitt(DJ)  Laowattana

****************************************************************************
Current Address in USA:

Department of Mechanical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
5000 Forbes Ave.
Pittsburgh, PA 15217
USA
Tel. No. 268-8880
Fax. No. 268-3348
e-mail: sl2k@andrew.cmu.edu


Permanent Address in Thailand:

Center of Operation for FIeld roBOtics Development(FIBO)
King Mongkut's Institute of Technology Thonburi
91 Suksawasd 48  Ratburana  Bangmod
Bangkok 10140, Thailand

Tel. No. 428-3374, 427-4421 and 4270151-9 Ext. 461
Fax. No. 427-8077, 427-8787

*****************************************************************************
From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: Tourists in Thailand get `free day'
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:13:12 GMT
Keywords: Thai tourist industry

Read details in:

From: clarinews@clarinet.com (PRANEE SRITHONGNOY)
Newsgroups: clari.biz.economy.world
Subject: Tourists in Thailand get 'free day'
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 7:39:52 PDT


Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: noi@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Nittida Nuansri)
Subject: Re: public access Unix in Thailand?
Keywords: unix, thai
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 05:01:28 GMT

mdickers@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Dickerson) writes:


>Hello,
> 
>Can someone tell me how to find a public access Unix system in
>southern Thailand?  I have a friend there whom I want to
>commincate with by email (internet), but can't right now because
>he doesn't have an account there.  I'm looking for a dial-up
>Unix system which supports email.  Any informatino would be
>greatly appriciated.
> 
>(Something akin toe the Cleveland Freenet would be great, but
>if there is a modest cost for getting accounts that is OK too
>as long as it isn't too much).
>Thanks

Prince of Songkla University (PSU) is the only place in the South (by this
time) which has an e-mail connection to outside Thailand.  It's in Hat Yai,
Songkla province.  If your friend wants to have an account there, he
can contact :

Mr. Pramote  Jutaporn
The director of the computer centre  
Prince of Songkla Unversity
Hat Yai
Songkla 90112

Tel: (74) 245 699

I don't know about the cost, but I don't think it's too much.

Nittida
From: col@megadata.mega.oz.au (Colin Newell)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Subject of 'unusually rich' politicians
Date: 19 Aug 92 04:39:15 GMT
Organization: Megadata P/L, North Ryde, Sydney, Aust.



At the start of 1991 there was a military coup in Thailand.  One
reason given by the coup leaders for their action was to remove
from power 'unusually rich' politicians.  This action had some
popular support as it was widely believed throughout the country
that the accused politicians were guilty.  Such politicians were
barred from being members of parliament.

Now here we are 18 months down the track.  A highly respected man
is leading the country, and organising elections.  Who is standing
for election?  Many of those accused politicians!  How can that be?
Incredibly it seems that after all this time, the courts have
not yet decided whether the politicians were guilty or not!
As long as the courts have not found them guilty they can
enter parliament.  It is a state of limbo.
Is it not incredible?  I really wonder about Thailand's future
when it lets issues like these just hang about without tackling
them.  

This situation reminds me of most of the other pressing problems
facing Thailand today: e.g. politican and traffic congestion in Bangkok
being 2 good examples.  The Thai authorities will not face problems
until they are already out of hand.
(I was recently in Bangkok and was amazed by
the worsening traffic conditions.  As we sat in a mind-numbing
traffic jam, my old boss proudly pointed to a
freeway under construction: "all the traffic problems will be over
in 5 years" - I had to laugh.  The freeways (and skytrain) are a case
of too little too late and will do practically nothing to help
Bangkok's immense traffic problems.)  Ten years ago, Bangkok had
appalling traffic, Chiengmai was OK.  What is the situation today?
Chiengmai's traffic is regarded by many as worse than Bangkok's!
The reason: the government will not plan ahead and tackle problems
as they arise.  Why spend public money on infrastructure when it
will only reap a benefit 3 to 5 years down the track.  Better to
just ignore such problems.


Best regards,


Colin Newell
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai