HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: I Spoke with an Angel
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:56:17 GMT

A Hell's Angel, that is.  This past weekend, on a cage trip (yuck)
up to St Paul, interslab.  I was walking out of a reststop bathroom
when I heard a big twin approaching.  As he pulled around into a
spot, I saw his colors.  Interesting.  I walked over and spoke with
him for a few minutes.  Graying beard, clean looking dude, didn't
smell (no flames, please; I'm trying to argue *against* the 
stereotype).  Biggest surprise was his smile.  All of his front teeth
were gold capped.  As a dentists son, that made me shudder a bit, but
I will admit it looked pretty striking.

He was from Oakland, riding home after visiting some friends in New
York.  He seemed like a nice enough guy.  Typical travelling biker.

And, yes, I was a weenie and didn't tell him that my bike was Japanese,
just that it was in the shop getting fixed after hitting an animal. :-)

Dave Svoboda (rubis@gagme.chi.il.us)        | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Feeling poorly)           |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Being bored)         |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905      DoD #0330    COG 939        |   -- Evo Woman
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Friday, 4 Sep 1992 15:23:00 EDT
From: <REE700A@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: More reserve switch questions

  There is no alternative for (a) knowing your bikes range and (b) only using
half of it.

  Even reserves are not failsafe, as my first day off my block shows.  I had
just got my permit (back in May), registered my bike and been to the
inspection station.  On the way there, I had stalled at a light on a hill
and decided to push my KZ900 through the light (yeah, right - maybe on
flat ground).  Even though I way 230, the bike and gravity conspired against
me and down on her side she went.
  Later, that morning, I passed a gas station, thinking to myself, "I'll
just hit the next one, I've got a reserve and it's only seven miles to
Milford."  Well, the reserve didn't work (apparently they are opposite sides
of the frame in my bike, not vertically staggered taps).  I walked 3 miles
back to that gas station.

   Moral:  Never pass a gas station because you think you have a reserve!
           Don't be ashamed to fill up on $2.43.

  Since then, in 2500 miles of driving, I've only run dry once.  (and that
because a jet had unscrewed & I got 8 mi. per gallon and a very gassy
exhaust).

   Jeff Andle   DoD # 3005  KotGDL (Keeper of the Greatful Dead Lyrics)
  For complete (I assume) Dead Lyrics see ftp.apple.com soon!  est 360KB...
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Flat tire :  What do you do ?
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:21:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <1992Aug27.154744.16877@tamsun.tamu.edu> peram@cs.tamu.edu (Suresh B Peram) writes:
>Hi,
>
>    If you get a flat in the middle of a city,
>    you can call somebody to pick it up.  What would
>    you do if you get a flat somewhere 100 miles from
>    a city at midnight ?  

Walk to the nearest town or village?

Is this midnight DST, or PST, or railroad time?
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: czw70@ccc.amdahl.com (CA Whitfield)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: riding clothes choices
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:53:21 GMT
Reply-To: czw70@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (CA Whitfield)
Organization: Amdahl UK


klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) writes:
>
>Suck me off Cock Breath.
>     Keep your assumptions to yourself.
>              XXXOOO
>                    Jorg

Then klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) writes:
>
>Sounds like too many of you have been blown off by neon kids
>                      Jorg
>
Your gettin` kinda obsessive here Jorg, dontcha think?   ;-)
CAW
--
  >>>  Charlie Whitfield               czw70@juts.ccc.amdahl.com  <<<
  >>>  Tommies on Tour    -    Sports Touring Without Compromise  <<<
  >>>                                        DoD#0526   ToT#0002  <<<
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: I want my DOD number!!! (I think not)
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 19:17:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.162059.10257@colorado.edu> laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
>In article <23012@sybase.sybase.com>, leighann@sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey) writes:
>|> You lurk around here for however long it's been, then swagger in and
>|> demand a number like it's only your due, insulting the membership the
>|> while.
>
>thats not quite true i have it on good authority that some people
>have been around so long that they where on the net when time began
>(jan 1 1970 0:00 gmt) and that those select few where around to create
>the DoD. it wasn't until after the first five score or so denizens
>that we^H^H it was decided that all newbies should PROVE them selves
>WORTHY of being a denizen, there by make the DoD an exclusive group.

Of course it wasn't truly a problem until the wannabes all started running
around with "We're not worthy!" in their .sigs.  If they hadn't told
us they weren't worthy, we never would have known.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I want my DOD number!!! (you better let him have one...)
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:37:47 GMT
Organization: Electric Armts Div, US Army ARDEC, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ

ben@spider.wri.com (Ben Cox) writes:
>I'll give you a SMALL clue here:
>
>   I am not the KotL.

Me either.

There. That's two down...
-- 
 
                tom coradeschi    <+>    tcora@pica.army.mil
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: aki <aki@atlas.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: CB750 Nighthawk - impressions
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6C92C5CA2082631@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 1 Sep 92 19:19:08 GMT
Organization: World Bank
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d8
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:25:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.175928.19754@tamsun.tamu.edu> Suresh B Peram,
peram@cs.tamu.edu writes:
>   I went to the local Honda dealership and saw the
>   '92 CB750 Nighthawk.  I liked the driving position
>   and the looks of the Black model.  I would like to

Don't know about the 92's but a friend had an 85 650
Nighthawk..he loved it..until his S.O. divorced him and
raped him for everything he had (including his bike).
Hmm...come to think of it,he's never been the same 
since either...


*******************************************
-Aki                                  *
DoD #0628                        * A tank of gas, a pair of
                                         * gloves, a helmet on my
                                         * head and a motor between
----------------------- * my legs..folks, it don't git
Disclaimer:  Comments     * no bettern' this...
my own, my employer        *
doesn't understand them... *
********************************************
From: pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Winner of the Official(tm) (bs) DoD Ba
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:44:44 GMT
Reply-To: pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith)
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

In article <1992Aug31.013823.23946@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:

>"I was doing 150 mph sideways and 500 feet down at the same time.
> I was looking for the cops, because I knew it was illegal."
>
>The story is at least as credible as most postings to rec.moto.  :-)

Say, does Arlo Guthrie ever mention what _kind_ of motorcycle he was
riding???

Could it be... a Spagthorpe?
--

P.M. Smith
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Bear Mountain, NY Trip Report
Keywords: TOUR NEW YORK
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:14:10 GMT

My two cents--

In article <sysop.145@elan.glassboro.edu> sysop@elan.glassboro.edu (Ken Denton (Supervisor)) writes:
|
|        Observations:
|
|                4->1 Kerker on my bike WAY too loud.  At highway speed,
|                it's all I hear.  Found a yard that has stock ones for
|                $200 (4->4).  If they're in good shape, that's my next
|                purchase.

For country riding, try some of those little foam earplugs you can get
by the gross at Kmart.  Loudpipes or no, the road and wind noise at
highway speeds can be damaging to your ears.  Get the quieter muffler 
anyway, though.  Team Stealth.  That's one cent.

|                Jockey-type underwear is cutting into my butt something
|                fierce.  Guess I'll try boxers.

I use "pud squeezers" for touring.  These are spandex shorts that you can
buy in the sports-clothing section of any department store for around ten
dollars.  Mind where they put the seams.  Tiger stripes are optional. :-)
That's another cent.

Dave Svoboda (rubis@gagme.chi.il.us)        | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmmmm)             |  this weird shit
No ratbike at the moment.  Suggestions?     |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905      DoD #0330    COG 939        |   -- Evo Woman
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: motos on TV
Date: 26 Aug 92 11:20:12 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

With regards to the title!

On UK telly yesterday, I saw the RAC "The New Knights Of The Road" ad which
features RAC men (never seen a female in this line of work) on their new
Norton Commanders.  It is a great ad and really pushes up the image of bikes.

Also, there was an ad for carpet cleaner, which is good for cleaning up after
dirty shoes, animals and Yamaha TY250s!  The ad features a guy riding inside a
standard house on the aforementioned bike.  He goes upstairs, rides around a
coffee table and then downstairs and out the door.  The woman (of course) 
cleans up after him.  Ten points plus for the bike bit but several million 
minus for the sycophantic stereotypical (in NICAM!) female putdown.  She should
have been riding the bike and making him (in leathers) clean up.  

Later, I watched Coogan's Bluff which has Eastwood chasing the baddy, both on 
Triumphs.  They looked ace and I now want a Triumph (again!)


Nick (the Square-eyed Biker)    DoD 1069   MAG 73516  BBC1  BBC2  ITV  CH4

M'Lud.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: alr@leggs.corp.sgi.com (Andrea Raiser)
Subject: RE: beginners luck
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 00:45:51 GMT


I just started riding a few months ago and my first bike is an '81
Suzuki GS550T.  I haven't ridden anything else so don't have other
bikes to compare it to.  It seemed a bit large at first but I wanted
a bike that I could handled but that would also go distance as I wanted ,F
spend my weekends on it -at least 3-4 hours at a stretch.  I've been 
happy with it so far and actually enjoy the size now.  Only complaint 
is it appears that I need to tank up about every 100-120 miles :^( .  
Once I'm on it, the last thing I want to do is stop.

Next spring/summer after much more practice, I'll upgrade.

PS - Anyone interested in hooking up for leisurely (by DoD standards)
weekend rides in the Mt. View, CA area (give or take) drop me a line.
I'd appreciate the skills I could learn from riding with more
experienced
folks.

-- 
 o       "                    o    "    o     "
Ma din sjal finna frid tills vara vagar anyo motas.

Bright Eyes		  "There is no substitute for
(alr@leggs.corp.sgi.com)   good manners -- except fast
			   reflexes." Jhereg(Steven Brust)
From: boo@athena.mit.edu (Christopher J Foley)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Free Yamaha '79 XS650
Date: 29 Aug 92 04:29:51 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Yeah!
A free bike in Boston area.

I wont ride it anymore, even though it would probably run after an hour's
tinkering.  It's just beat to hell and has hardly any brakes and you have to be
Arnie to work the clutch.
See it was on this bike that me and a few fraternity brothers ('scuse me, "Frat
Punk Squids) learned on.  so it's been down, at highway speeds sometimes, a bunch
of times.  

relatively new chain, brand new ignition, decent instruments.

I would only letcha have it if you promised me you'd use it for a parts bike, or
else spend big $ restoring it. It just isn't safe.

Save this precious bit of my college life from being thrown away!!
  
Kid Oreo
1966 Fender Jazzmaster
1943 Bridgeport
1985 Redline Freestyle BMX 

"Why should getting a bike be such an ordeal? They're dangerous and evil, yes?
Therefore I think its fair to expect Satan to just appear before me in a puff of
smoke and just give me an RZ with a cackle."
 
Chris "he's a good man but he's not quite right in the head" Foley
			^
		From Ren and Stimpy

Hey, I just read the "harley woman" and associated strings... Why can't us 
wreck dotters learn to love one another???

HA HA hoooo he he! Woooooo! Whuh? Haaaa!  heeee heee!
From: story@sunshine.Kodak.COM (Doug Story)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Calfab Swing-arms
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:27:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: kodak.1992Aug31.192700.497
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY

Does any one know if Calfab is still in business. 
If they are can I get an address or a phone number. 
If they aren't does any one of aother company that makes 
swing-arms

Thanks Doug 

BTW I don't want a number
From: djm@morpheus.wustl.edu (David Maconochie)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Harley for SALE
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:25:26 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
Distribution: rec
NNTP-Posting-Host: morpheus.wustl.edu


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: earutter@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu (Ethan Rutter)
Subject: Re: NY Rte 17 sucks
Organization: Vanderbilt University Mathematics Department
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:25:57 GMT

In article <Btwzoq.LAD@apollo.hp.com> heff@ki.ch.apollo.hp.com (God of Thunder) writes:
>
>I rode Route 17 across NY in July, and it sucked. The road is concrete
>blocks with major bumps between blocks - my spine was screwed for days.
>
>Anybody have a better way to get from Boston to Binghamton in under 7 hours,
>and on a fun road at the same time?
>

My folks live in Ithaca (just northwest of Binghamton), and from what I've
seen, NY has *very* few good riding roads.  The only way to save your spine
is to ride the Interstates, and there's no guarantee they're much better.

Ethan

--
==============================================================================
"I would prefer to have Goddard interested in real scientific development than
to have him primarily interested in more spectacular achievements [his rocket
research] of less real value."  -Charles A. Lindbergh
From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Thirsty carbs at 80+mph???
Date: 26 Aug 1992 17:13:22 GMT
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Originator: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <1992Aug26.153635.11975@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, crpresto@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Charlie Preston) writes:
|> In article <14314@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
|> >
|> >I've got a problem that's been getting progressively worse.
|> >
|> >Running the bike at 80+ mph for an extended period of time
|> >(5+ mins) causes the carbs to start sputtering . . . lack
|> >of gas.  To alleviate this problem I have to:
|> >
|> Had a similar problem with my GL1100.  The cause was a dirty fuel filter.

I *wish* this bike had a fuel filter . . that'd give me something
to go look at!?!?!?! ;-)

Thanks anyway!!
Mark

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dbidwa@sei.cmu.edu (Daniel Bidwa)
Subject: Re: More reserve switch questions
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:06:29 GMT


Richard Chapman (chapman@cs.cornell.edu) sez:
[lots of hooey about reserve tanks deleted]
|> Then there is the vacuum powered valve used by Suzuki: only two
|> positions, reserve and on. When the engine is running, engine vacuum
|> (via an extra vacuum line) sucks the valve open and gas flows from either
|> the reserve or main tank. When the engine stops, the valve closes, so
|> you don't have to turn it off manually. 

Close, but not quite. The two positions are "on" and "prime"; there is no
"reserve" position (and consequently no fuel reserve -- when the bike sputters
and dies, it's time to start walking). The "prime" position is, not
surprisingly, for feeding gas to dry carbs. Both positions rely on engine
vacuum to open the valve, which is kind of annoying when you just need to flow
some gas into the carbs. 

Another annoying feature (at least on my GS550) is the lack of a lever on the
petcock. The position is set by way of a recessed screw (which, of course,
most of my screwdrivers can't reach).

The good point is that you don't have to worry about filling your cylinders
with gas because you forgot to turn the petcock to "off". 

Dan
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: lane splitting
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 00:36:46 GMT

bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.185742.12827@javelin.sim.es.com>,
>llane@javelin.sim.es.com (Laura Lane) writes: 

>> [about lane splitting]

>blaine put you up to this, right?  what clued me in was:

Nope. Though Laura & I have accounts on the same machine, we've never
met. In fact, until you pointed this out, I hadn't even noticed it. So
allow me to correct my oversight and say "Hi Laura, welcome to the net."

>> When I lived in Calif. 

>moving from california to utah is an udder absurdity, so therefore 
>you post is a fake.

While we are cursed with winter here, there are a lot fewer people than
in fornicalia, so we can spend our time riding twisties instead of lane
splitting. :-) And we've got dirt riding areas you can only dream about.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
From: bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: DoD Battle Hymn entry
Date: 29 Aug 92 16:20:30 +1000
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

In article <1992Aug28.160323.26872@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>, hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm) writes:
>
>       How about one of the following:
>
>       SAXON:
>       Motorcycle Man (starts with moto race sounds at a UK track)
>       It's all about riding, from the Album 'Wheels of Steel'. This is
>       a cool tune folks.
>
>       Motorhead:
>       Bomber (song about being part of a bomber crew I think)
>       Iron Horse (dedicated to all the 'Angels')
>
>       Jesus and Mary Chain:
>       Living End (true to the JMC sound, and neato lyrics about feeling
>       so good in leather boots etc., and riding)

        Wagner:
        Ride of the Valkyries.


           Bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au  OR  bull@monu1.cc.monash.oz
                    DOD# 251  '84 VF 750   Closet Ducatisto
             Disclaimer. If you love your llama, let it lambada.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: scott@sgisupport.lerc.nasa.gov (SGI_Junkie)
Subject: Re: riding clothes choices
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center [Cleveland, Ohio]
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:20:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep01.063622.27311@ecst.csuchico.edu> lrandall@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU writes:

>One soon to be skinless squid wearing a full face helmet, t-shirt, shorts,
>and shower thongs.
>Isn't the mandatory helmet law working great?
>Laura Randall   

  The only thing that does'nt heal is the brain.

  The rest will (ouch) grow (ouch) back (ouch!!) eventually. 

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ataskila@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi (A-P Taskila)
Subject: Re: Helmet speakers - info wanted
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:34:14 GMT

In article <71003@apple.Apple.COM>, thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson) writes:

> I'd suggest wearing earplugs and getting relatively powerfull headphones.
> After burning out a set of normal headphones, I bought a set of 
> "Megablasters", which are plenty loud. 

	I would not suggest this if willing to maintain proper
	hearing.... If the wind noise if loud, it can be
	damaging to hearing (easy to notice when driving longer
	trips) and if you use earplugs to "win" the noise you
	just increase the damage...

	Uh, what did you say ?....   ;)

	a-p
From: Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu (Richard A. Swift)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I want my DOD number!!! (you better let him have one...)
Date: 29 Aug 92 00:00:05 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Aero. & Mech. Eng.
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In article <1992Aug28.222525.11603@javelin.sim.es.com> Dances With
Bikers, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>Loosely translated:
>"I still don't have a clue, so I'm broadcasting my cluelessness to the
>net instead of asking the Keeper of the List for a number."
>-- 
>Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah
84108
>blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX:
blaine_g
>Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.     
FJ1200

Man, DWB, that stings.... straight from the mouth of a DOD GOD. I stand
chastised before the DOD community (wimper, wimper...). Where is this
KEEPER OF THE LIST? Is he a DOD GOD, demi-god, or just some brown-nosin',
pussy-assed pee-on who is forced to be some kind of newsgroup secretary...

SHOW YOURSELF KOTL, AND GIVE ME MY NUMBER!!!!


Rich Swift
DOD # ------------- I AINT GOT ONE YET!
From: jep@cs.duke.edu (Jonathan E. Polito)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: carrying moolah on long trips
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:38:54 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Duke University CS Dept., Durham, NC
In-reply-to: parker@gdls.UUCP's message of 25 Aug 92 19:34:11 GMT


In article <5093@gdls.UUCP> parker@gdls.UUCP (The Dougster) writes:
   A friend was talking to me about his european adventures--spending
   weeks on the autobahn, beer, sightseeing, new bike deliveries and etc...

   It started me wondering, though, what are safe ways of carrying
   large amounts of money (or just guaranteeing access to a large supply
   of funds) over long periods of time while on a bike, away from home,
   and maybe out of the country?

   I'd thought about putting two thousand dollars credit on my plastic and
   then using that, but there's got to be other ways...

   Douglas


When I was travelling around Europe I found a money pouch which you
wear like a necklace was really great. Put my passport, travellers
cheques, credit card, emergency local money, etc in there. Credit
cards are handy for mainstream purchases i.e. where they are taken
freely. Otherwise American Express Travellers Checks work out well.
One tip is to get the AmEx Directory because if you cash them at the
AmEx office you don't have to pay any fee and usually get near the
best rate. A travelling companion is also a big help in watching
things when you are say taking a shower or something. Friends are also
a big help when you are lost in Amsterdam when you are feeling
*really* good and then suddenly remember that the Hostel closes in 10
mins and no one is in condition to make sense of the map....

Sounds like great fun!
--
Jonathan Polito                                      DoD #x (K 100)
jep@cs.duke.edu                                  jpolito@encore.com 
              "You Don't Say...." --- Sylvia Plath