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From: arkesh@informix.com (Arkesh Tripathi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Request for Info on Housing in India
Date: 13 Nov 92 22:31:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.
Originator: arkesh@tcninfo

Dear Netters

I am looking for some info on reputable builders in 
Ahmedabad,India. I would like to know the construction 
cost at what rate builders charge.i.e. flooring,building,
tiles,plinth level etc.

In January 1993, I am going to India and planning to buy 
a small 2/3 Bedroom house in Ahmedabad. Also, if someone
has info on what documents are required to buy a house
from individual/builder i.e. property deed etc., NRI's 
get any loan for building a house ?,if yes, how much & 
whom to contact. If someone already has a house in Ahmedabad
and would like to sell should also let me know.

Thanks in advance to respondents.

email me at arkesh@informix.com

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From: srinivas@hooch.swdc.stratus.com (Srinivas Lingutla)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Anyone going by Lufthansa on Dec-24 from San Francisco to Bombay?
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:58:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc., San Jose, CA



Could you please let me know if you or anyone you know are going
from San Francisco to Bombay on Dec-24 by Lufthansa (flight 455/756)?
Please reply to my email address srinivas@stratus.swdc.stratus.com,
or you can call me at 408-559-5431 or 408-243-4720.

Thanks,
Srinivas
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: garyd@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Gary Deol)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: re:Khalistan
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 19:26:36 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

A reply to a message written by: rroy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu 
                                 (Raja R Roy)
 
>          Ofcourse I felt the pain and I still feel it. I didn't kill
> them, nor any sane person killed them. The goondas, the opportunists
> killed them. It happens everywhere. It happens here in U.S.A. in L.A.
 
  What there is ONE HINDU with a conscience, I find that hard to 
believe when his whole nation couldn't care less about the Sikhs 
killed, even the poor Sikh who is probably being tortured or killed 
while I write this message!  Sure it happens in USA or Canada, but
the guilty get punished NOT promoted! 
 
>    What were you doing before 1984. What are you doing now ? On 31st
>october,92 your freedom-fighters have killed 30 innocent bus-passengers.
>Who will pay for this?
 
  On any given day of the week for the past decade DOZENS of innocent 
Sikhs are being or have been killed in fake encounters by the Indian 
gov't who will pay for that?
 
>     So you like to have riots, everytime someone dies ? 
 
  Are you dimented (Waynes world) who do you think instigated the 
riots in nov 84?
 
>    And by what right you are asking for khalistan. 48 % are not sikhs,
> so they don't want it and you don't even know whether even 2 % of sikhs
> want khalistan. Sikhs in India will be very happy , if you people left
> them in peace. You , people from outside are creating problems for
> them. Let them live happily if you want their happiness. Do you really
> care for them? You live happily here, while they are bearing the 
bullets?
 
  Are you a Sikh how do you know the percentage, your just told to
regurgitate without question what the Indian gov't feeds you through
their media!  Would you like to enlighten the people on the net
who they are `bearing the bullets' from, perhaps the Hindu dominated
Indian gov't? 
 

Gary Deol              garyd@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
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From: hassan@cup.portal.com (hassan monu alam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Buddhist-Hindu Row
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 19:03:04 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: prasundi@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (Pankaj Raghavendra Asundi)
Subject: Addresses of some schoolsolleges in India
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:38:17 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

Hi netters, I need addresses of some universities or colleges in
India which offer Home Science courses. Specifically looking for
the addresses of the following schools
1. M.S. University, Baroda
2. Nirmala Niketan, Bombay
3. Delhi University?
4. Bangalore University
5. Ministry of Education at New Delhi

Thanks in advance

Please mail responses to the net or to my account
my address is
prasundi@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu

-----Pankaj
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: INDIAN CULTURE - subservient?
From: J.Ainikkal@massey.ac.nz (J. Ainikkal)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 01:45:20 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Keywords: Indian culture - Subservient
Summary: Indian Culture - Subservient
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c

Mr Anand Raman writes:
 
>I  have little to  say on this thread as   it is already  being 
>played out interestingly.  But, as an aside, I find
>itinteresting that as a person who argued  at length sometime 
>ago that women in India are not necessarily  any less happy, you
>should concurrently hold  the view that Easterners  living   in
>an Eastern culture are living miserable lives. 

I COULD admit that U have highlighted a 'major' inconsistency in
my argument. But I will not as I feel its a misunderstanding of
my earlier arguments. 

I had defined happiness as a relative factor previously. I was
not referring to the 'absolute factor' which could lead to
'absolute unhappiness'. 

It is difficult for me to comprehend anyone (500 million people
in this case) being happy without having the basic necessities
of life. It is difficult to understand how a person who does not
get 2 meals a day could be happy.

An example that might help - Kiwis today earn 1/2 as much as
Americans - but they could be twice as happy. Now if the average
Kiwi lived in a state of absolute poverty -it would be very
difficult to attain, or attain and maintain, 'happiness'. 

Maybe someone should make an attempt at defining happiness. The
best I can do is define it as a state of 'lesser
dissatisfactions'.

Easterners living with evolutionary Eastern values caused the
decline and the present state of absolute poverty prevalent among
the majority of our people. This has been due to their religious
servient attitudes.

I can understand a person brought up by society to BELIEVE in
'serving' - to be comfortable and happy with this notion. I also
understand that this person will be exploited due to this belief.


When the exploited person cannot afford 2 meals a day - it does
get difficult to stay happy.
 
>Is it not possible, as Rohit  Parikh pointed out  in an earlier 
>posting, that some creatures can be happy to live in the
>cesspools they create?   

It MIGHT be true - In that case - I rest my case. If people are
happy with absolute poverty - I can only feel even more sorry
about the state of our culture.


>It is unlikely that you  hold some opinions for the dedicated
>purpose of   creating opportunities to  debate  over the net. 

Motivations for posting and complex and varied. Personal
speculations made due to an adverse opinion be voiced is 'hitting
below the belt'. We were not discussing my motivations - if we
decide to do so - we can start a new topic - 'John's motivations
for posting'.

>So perhaps you were not aware  of this inconsistency in your set
>of beliefs?  If not, maybe there were postings on these issues
>that I must have missed out on; this is more likely. 
 
John Ainikkal
I think - Therefore I am.
'Aotearoa' - Land of the long white cloud
From: naik@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Raghunandan Naik)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: re: FUQ by rai narayan
Keywords: innocent responses
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:40:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.



These are a few responses to ravi narayans FUQ posting!
please do not take offense to any of these statements



>>>   1. i read the letters on this newsletter and i find it very intersting.
>>>      how can i also subscribe?
>>>
>>>   a: the fact that you actually read and post articles here has nothing
>>>      to do with your subscription, as you rightly inferred. to really
>>>      subscribe, please send $35.12 in cash to ravi narayan, wpi.

I yam ya tamilian from medras, I syent Mr. Narayan $35.12 but did not gyet
yany response could some please yelp  me?? 


>>>   2. i have been reading sci for some time and now i want to post. what
>>>      should i post?
>>>
>>>   a: the most productive articles on sci, and the ones that interest
>>>      the average reader, come under the categories:
>>>
>>>      i.   test. keywords: pleas ignore, testing, hi, just a test

Thyank you Mr. Narayan. I was begining to wounder if it was jyust me.

>>>      ii.  looking for my schoolbus driver

Thyank you but I found him by putting yan yad yin Yindia yabroad.

>>>      iii. FRIENDS I AM HERE!!! FROM JUNTA COLLEGE! SEND MAIL! SEND
>>>           FLOWERS! CALL ME!!!!!!!!

But I am not a telagudesam person, therefore I will not react like this.

>>>      iv.  suresh doki is a morAn

Well, Yi yam not disagreeing yaaar.

>>>
>>>   6. someone on sci called me names/someone on sci said something
>>>      against amitabh bhachhan/someone on sci posted something i did
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
WHAT?? KILL THEM! CASTRATE THEM! CRUCIFY THEM TORTURE THEM !!!!!!

>>>    peace,
>>>
>>>    - ravi

p.s These lines are just for fun, no offence meant. ( therefore, take none) 

-raghu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kamdar@granite.ma30.bull.com (Jayesh Kamdar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Need to find the Ph. Number to inquire P2 file status
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:14:40 GMT
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Inc.
Originator: kamdar@granite.ma30.bull.com


Hi Netters,

My brother has filed for his wife (P2 category) who is in India. I
think there is a place where you can call and find out the status of 
P2 category. So if anybody has any info about that please mail me, I
would appreciate it. 

By the way, I heard from Oct. '92 the quota for Spouses has been
doubled, is it true ? And if my brother filed in Feb. '91 how long
will it take more for his wife to come here ? Any idea ?

Thanks for your help.

Jayesh Kamdar
J.Kamdar@ma30.bull.com
-- 
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= Jayesh Kamdar		      Bull World Wide Inforation System Inc. =
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rajain@scotty.ecs.umass.edu (Rajat Jain)
Subject: Hey Doki (was Re: Newsgroup monopolized by riffraff?)
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:15:37 GMT

In article <1emfbbINNsje@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, sdoki@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Suresh Doki) writes:
|> In the bliss of his ignorance  (Shubhendu Mukherjee) blabbers:
|> 
|> 
|> >enormous traffic such articles generate).  As Anindya 
|> >pointed out, personal, ugly wars with abusive language is not meant for
|> >public consumption.  Some people post articles just for the sake of it - 
|> >even if they don't have anything to say.  We surely could avoid such 
|> >things in future. 
|> 
|> how about moderating the newsgroup?

	hooooooho haaa haa haa ! 

	mo<tee! hee!>dera<hee! hee!>te the (haa! haa! ) newsgroup ???


	You mean SCI ??? as in S.C.I ??? as in soc.culture.indian ????

	You gotta be kidding dooooode :-)
	Hey something wrong with you these days ? What happened to allll
	that crazy stuff ? Ran out of gas, eh ?  Or caved into the pressure
	from the SCI-eggheads ?

|> 
|> suresh
|> 
	
   rAjAt.
From: vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: South Indian <> Dravidian. Definition Of An Aryan.
Date: 24 Nov 92 00:07:26 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <Uf4HqAW00iQCQMGmYs@andrew.cmu.edu> "Arun K. Gupta" <ag3l+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>If in 500 BC Gautama Buddha referred to his teachings as
>"Arya Dharma" and it obviously didn't have any racial
>connotation, then why does it always start a nasty political
>fight 2500 years later ?
>
>-arun

The reason is, that people have taken umbrage to any reference to the
word "Aryan", not realizing that it only means one who is regarded as
noble in thought, action, and deeds.

Probably the reason why it has evoked a provocative debate, is due to 
the mistaken assumption that the Aryan presence in India is due to an
invasion to conquer an existing Dravidian race,  and imposing its own
culture on the indigenous people of India, meaning the Dravidians. 

Well now this theory already stands discredited and it is proved that
both the so-called Aryans, as well so-called Dravidians, were in fact
just two of the many races co-existing in India from about 3500 B.C..

Regards,
Vivek.

-- 
vivek@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu),
Research Assistant, Systems Engineering Lab., Dept. Of Computer Science, 
School Of Engineering, Computer Science And Technology,
California State University, Chico, California.
From: sdoki@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,wpi.students.desis
Subject: Re: Excluding men
Date: 22 Nov 1992 22:18:43 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

(Rajat Jain) writes:

>	no! we don't wanna do that......that would be stoopid. But hey,
>	don't you think women should grow up too and get actively involved
>	in subjects like sex, physical relationships etc instead of 
>	maintaining the "hiding in the closet" attitude ? I read soc.penpals,
>	soc.singles and even rec.humor....and there I see women actively
>	participating in such (serious AND humorous) discussions without
>	shying away (just cuz they are women !!!). They are discriminating

reminds me of an old engg. coll. hostel joke. well this is not the
original one and i don't want stoopid[tm] morAn's coming after me for
this. 

there are three kinds of people:
	men
	women and 
	indian women.

suresh

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From: sdoki@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,wpi.students.desis,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: premarital sex
Date: 17 Nov 92 03:28:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu


 (Rajat Jain) writes:


>	Me tink f**KiNg == mAkInG lOvE.....(and vice-versa)
>	what does the SCI-land gUrUs tink ??

gurus? i think you have an unnecessary 's' in it. anywayS i think
there is nothing called making love. it is just another way to saying
fuck. 

>PS: Alllllll flames go to dev/null EXCEPT those from Mr. mOhAnArAnGaN !!!

did you read this one?

suresh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: uds@trace.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Subject: ....... what is wrong with canada ..........
Reply-To: uds@trace.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:18:21 GMT


what is wrong with canada ??  For the past two years I have been quite
attentive, in noticing not just the contents of the posters, but the origins
and names and other characterristics of threads and topics...

I notice, fanaticism and arrogant stubbron-ness in th posters from canada.
Like they sa in telugu land, maybe its something in the air and water...
luckily, I havent found one case of blissful-ignorant-idiotic-posturing, that
melting-pot USA has in hazaar quantities...

Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: thiyagarajan@mims.enet.dec.com (R. Thiyagarajan)
Subject: Tamil & Carnatic Music CDs available (all original high quality)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:43:56 GMT


Pl send me e-mail

RT
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mkatyal@opie.bgsu.edu
Subject: Re: Clinton's victory-in the Indian context.
Organization: Bowling Green State University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:44:38 GMT

In article <4805@equinox.unr.edu>, hakim@unssun.nevada.edu (Ashraf Al Hakim) writes:
> Dear Sir,
> 
> I am with the Amnesty International. We will be working on human rights in 
> India very soon. According to my information, India has one of the worst
> human right abuses. India is in the red line.
> 
> 
> If you want further information, you may e-mail me. The Amnesty does hope
> that India improves its human right conditions and it is likely to ask the 
> US govt to impose tough conditions on India and other human rights abusers.
> 
> Hope that one day, India can become an example which other countries can 
> follow regarding human rights.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Ashraf
Could you please send me more information about human rights abuse in
India and I'm just curious about why does the Amnesty Int. think that things 
in India are worse than things in say China?
	Manish
From: ravi@cs.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Respect for female readers (was Re: Indian T..)
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:17:47 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: juniper.wpi.edu

In article <1414@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>, chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala) writes:
|> rkannan@diana.cair.du.edu (3.14edPiperAtTheGatesOfDawn) writes:
|> : 
|> : Ahem. Four legged creatures do not spread their legs. His dad simply lifted
|> : his mommys tail.
|> 
|> You fucking bastard, go and ask your dad as to what did he
|> lift when you started dropping out of your mommy's hole.
|> : 
|> : Too verbose for a simple peasant like the Nimmala to grasp. You could
|> : save the net thousands of dollars by merely posting one line rejoinders
|> : so that the befuddled peasant does not have to ask for clarification.
|> 
|> You will understand the might of a simple peasant when he uses his
|> uses his sharp sickle to cut your balls and tear your bottom. Also,
|> make a note of not leaving your wife and mom alone, otherwise the
|> same simple peasant will take care of the business.
|> : 
|> : Raj


	and people want to kill, maim, ban and censor posts from wpi, on
	s.c.i!!!!!! what a joke!!!!! ;-) ;-)

	peace,

	- ravi

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,rec.travel
From: subbu@cup.hp.com (Subbu Subramaniam)
Subject: Re: Bad experience on Malaysia Airlines
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:25:31 GMT
Organization: Core dump systems
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Vijay Rangarajan (vijay@ncsa.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: In article <1eeoalINNl9v@uwm.edu> mahadeva@point.cs.uwm.edu (Aruna Mahadevan) writes: [about bad service in Malaysian Airlines]
: 
: I'm glad your note benefits readers in both sci and rec.travel. If one
: were to go by reputation, both Malaysian and Singapore Airlines are 
: rated high, and it would definitely help readers to know of instances 
: of bad service, to balance their choice of airline.
: 
: This experience was with Singapore Airlines. A delay of over 12 hours at 
: San F, totally unexplained to the passengers, who had no clue what was
: happening. United Airlines was asked to take the slack finally, they did
: a great job too! At Singapore, there was no official or representative
: from Singapore Airlines to inform passengers of hotel reservations and
: testing everybody's patience was the fact that they had made no such
: arrangement anyway. United picked up the slack again.
: 
: Finally, Singapore Airlines felt no responsibility in informing continuing
: passengers of (alternate) connecting flights. If Singapore Airlines is
: indeed a little cheaper, it seems like it is just not worth it because 
: the lower cost comes with an attitude to match.
: 


Actually, I had the opposite experience with Singapore Airlines. I
travelled to India last year, and had a 12-hour delay in SFO (engne
problems). They put us up in a hotel in SFO, and apologized for the delay ,
gave us some gifts, etc. 

In Singapore, they put us up in a hotel as we missed the conecting flight
to Madras. They also made reservations for us in Air India flight the
next day, and informed my father at Madras about the change.

Of course, my bags came in 3 days late, and my father was informed a few
minutes before he started for the airport (that I was going to be on a 
different flight), but nevertheless, I thought it was OK.

I never had problems with food in Singapore airlines (I have travelled 
twice now).

I am going next week, and I hope I dont have any problems 

-Subbu
From: vittal@Autodesk.COM (Vittalbabu Srinivasan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: ** 220V/50Hz -> 110V/60Hz Info ? **
Date: 20 Nov 92 06:49:44 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA


Fellow netters,

A friend of mine is relocating to India. He is carrying a
lot of 110V/60Hz US appliances like (1) 1000W Microwave oven
(2) 2in1 (3) CD player (4) Blender/Mixer (5) Telephone (6) Lamps.

Can any of you suggest how these appliances would work in India ?

Indian stores around the Bay area do sell transformers that step
220V down to 110V so some of these apps would work. But then there
are some of them like the CD player (I do not know if this really 
frequency based) which could be sensitive to frequency. SO DO YOU
KNOW IF anybody here in the US of India sell frequency converters
that step up from India's 50Hz to 60Hz ? How much do they cost ?
Where can one get these ? So let us say that the CD player and the 
Microwave oven are frequency sensitive. Here we have the CD player
with a low power requirement and the oven which draws higher power.
So how does one run these appliances in India ? What kind of gadgetry
would be needed and who offers it and from where ?

What about other apps like Blender/Mixer, 2in1, Telephone ? Looks like
simple transformers should do ?

What about high wattage sodium vapor lamp ? Is this frequency 
sensitive ?

Do shops sell adapters that can be fitted to lamps so that they can
take Indian bulbs ?

I would highly appreciate your response. We could accumulate responses
to these questions as a FAQ.

Regards,

Vittal               

p.s: you can reach me at 415/331-1041


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