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From: lbaum@bcsaic.boeing.com (Larry Baum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: COMICS: JLA 70 to trade
Date: 12 Dec 92 16:31:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle

I have 2 extra copies of JLA #70 that I would like to trade.
Here are the holes I am trying to fill.

I need 2 copies each of:
Man of Steel #18
Superman #74
JLA #69 (is that really part of the Doomsday thread?)

1 bagged copy of Superman 75

No, I don't expect to fill all of those holes with these 2
JLA's  :-)

I will make the trade that best fills those holes, so let me
know if you wish to barter.
From: jchiu@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (James Chiu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Re: Which price guide?
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:42:47 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling) writes:
> In article <BzAKEI.6Au@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> jchiu@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (James Chiu) writes:
> >menchett@pyramid.unr.edu (Peter J Menchetti) writes:
> >> Hey there-
> >> I'm kinda having a survey here... I'm trying to figure which price guide the
> >> majority of the world follows. Please send your vote for the price guide you con
> >> sult when buying and selling comics. Thanks. <menchett@cs.unr.edu>
> >
> >When buying from a comic book shop, the shops mostly use
> >comics value monthly.  When the shops wants to buy a comic book
> >it's the price on the comics value monthly divided by two.
> 
> What are you talking about?  I don't know of a single shop that uses CVM.
> And when a shop buys a comic, they buy at whatever price is reasonable (at my
> shop, we pay 10% of Overstreet for Punishers, but 80% for Valiants).
> 
> >This way, the shops can earn the most profits out of all the other
> >price guide books.
> 
> You don't have a very good understanding of how shops operate.
> 
> >Wizard sometimes prices too high or too low so it is inconsistent but
> >realistic for real current values that very generous comic shops would go by.
> 
> Wizard is UNREALISTIC.  Period and full stop.  I would refuse to shop at any
> store that prices by Wizard.
> 
> >Overstreets is priced way too ridiculously low.  No comic book shop
> >would be insane enough to sell at those prices or they would go
> >bankrupt.
> 
> Every single shop in Victoria, BC prices by Overstreet.  Most Vancouver shops
> do likewise.  None are bankrupt.  All of the shops listed in the Overstreet
> Market Reports also price by Overstreet.  Many of them are the most
> successful shops on the continent.

Jee, kinda strange, all the comic stores uses CVM and some even
goes over their prices for hot items over here.  I really would like
to see a shop that uses Overstreet around here.

> 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
From: jpeg8496@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey P. Elbel)
Subject: For Sale/Wanted List of Comics
Summary: comics to buy & sell
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:53:35 GMT
Keywords: Comics to buy & sell

I have these sets to sell.  All are NM first print:

X-Men 1-12
X-Force 1-14
X-Force #1 (all five different cards)
X-Force #1 signed by Liefeld and Nicieza
Deathlok 1-15 (up through the Biohazard Agenda storyline)
Spawn #2
Star Trek/Next Gen:  The Modala Imperative
Spiderman (McSpidey) 1-26 (including the 30th anniversary holo cover

I'm looking for:

Amazing Spider-Man
 301, 304-311, 313-316, 318, 319

 e-mail if interested!

 Jeff Elbel

Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
From: jonal@dhhalden.no (JON ARVID LOVSTAD)
Subject: Re: How to SHIP em
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:08:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.215859.25850@oswego.Oswego.EDU> cs_ind23@Oswego.EDU (James LaPlaine) writes:
>How do most people go about sending comics to others on the net that have
>purchased them. I have some comics that I would like to post on the net
>to auction or sell. But I've been trying to think of the best way to ship
>them. 
>  Any help?

I've just traded a little, and I bag/board the comics before I put them 
under heavy cardboard protection on both sides. Then they go in a well 
sealed strong envelope. Costs a bit more to send, but noone has complained 
yet...

>--------------------------------------------------
>* cs_ind23@oswego.oswego.edu     a.k.a -> Static *
>* James LaPlaine                                 * 
>--------------------------------------------------

Nomad

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jonal@sofus.dhhalden.no    |   retconned by DeFalco...
                           |
SnailMail: Hjortsbergvn 7  |
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From: wsm26@cas.org ()
Subject: Marvel Masterpiece for trade
Keywords:  Marvel Masterpiece, Comic Ball
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:04:39 GMT

Here's my list of Marvel Masterpiece cards I'd like to get.  
5, 6(2), 9, 15, 18(2), 19, 20, 23, 24, 28, 29(2), 32(2), 33(2), 37(2),
37, 38, 41, 46, 63(2), 64, 68, 72, 73(2), 78(2), 83(2), 86, 87(2), 90(2),
92, 94(2), 95(2), 97(2)

Here is the list of duplicates available to trade for any of the above cards.
3, 7, 8, 12, 21, 25, 26,  34, 35(2), 39, 40, 43, 44(3), 48, 49(2),
52, 56, 57(2), 58, 60, 61, 70, 71, 75, 76, 93, 98, 99

I'm just looking for trades right now.  

If you have lots of the cards that
I need but don't need many of my duplicates I would consider trading some
UD Comic Ball 2 or Comic Ball 3 holograms (and regular cards too) to make
up the difference at an exchange ratio that we can discuss.

Note for William Fuller - I tried to reply to you to trade 
some Marvel Masterpiece cards in response to your post but my mail bounced.
Please try to get mail through to me because it looks like we could trade
some of your and my needs and wants!

---------------
Wayne Mills
BITNET: <wsm26@cas.bitnet>  or  <wsm26%cas.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu>
INTERNET: wsm26@cas.org
UUCP: ...!osu-cis!chemabs!wsm26
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
From: cliffr@pyuxf.uucp (25347-roberts)
Subject: image comic auction
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 13:17:26 GMT


*********   IMAGE COUPON BOOK AUCTION   ******************

Item #1:

CYBERFORCE #1

Current Bid: $4.25  P.S.
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Item #2:

WILDCATS #2

Current Bid: $3.00 N.B.
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Item #3:

SHADOWHAWK #1

Current Bid: $8.00 D.M. 
---------------------------------------------------------------------

ALL books are MT/NM and have full coupons intact.

ALL future bids should be make in increments of $1.00

Rules of the auction:

1) Bids held longer than one day will be marked 'going once','twice','sold'.

2) Postage on single item will be $2.00, with $1.00 per additional item.


3) I have to right to refuse any bid, and I have the right to remove the
   item from auction at any time.

4) Auction bids will only be taken Monday to Friday, Sat & Sun don't count.

5) Money order is preferred for immediate shipping, or check will have to 
   clear.

email all bids to : cliffr@pyuxf.cc.bellcore.com
Cliff.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
From: kamg@ecf.toronto.edu (KAM GREGORY K)
Subject: Re: Which price guide?
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:50:21 GMT

I always use Overstreet........

And I always buy from dealers using Overstreet.

Not to mention that, since I'm in Canada, most dealers will just 
charge the Overstreet prices in Canadian funds.  So maybe those of
you who are paying CVM American should consider a trip up North?

Greg
(who knows there are still stores charging Overstreet on Silver Age..)
From: cg533@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James Eugene Alloway)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Re: Which price guide?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 22:08:10 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Speaking as a person who sold a collection using overstreet, I made out like
a bandit.  On a collection that cost me $375, I made $700 profit.  This 
same collection was offered to dealers, who would only go as high as $300.
  When I sold this collection, I didn't want to sell for full overstreet,
because a) comix are too f***ing high already b)I got them cheap
c) I wanted to give people a reason to buy from me rather than a comic shop.
So I sold them for 30-40% below overstreet.  Not CVM, not anything else.
Now, I know dealers have a helluva lot more overhead than I do.  But...
dealers even buy new comics at 25% off (for small dealers) and 50% (for 
large dealers - volume discounts).  I am not saying that dealers are turning
into rockefellers; they do have to keep the comics that don't sell.  But
they are not going under because of overstreet.  Comics that are hot and 
off the shelf are very price sensitive; too much and they sit, too little and
they are history and an opportunity is lost. The recent gouging, and I mean
gouging of the Superman series has soured me a great deal.  I do not want to
be treated as a speculator.  I am a collector and i want to deal with
collectors if at all possible.  The really disappointing thing is that we,
the aruers, the bittc
the bitchers, are the ones who will pay these prices.  If you want prices
to come down, don't buy.  Don't frequent p[laces that use CVM, or gouge.
Don't charge high prices yourselves.  Use the net, or other tools, to buy
what you want.   When I bought that collection, I put over $2000 overstreet 
into my collection.  Very saleable items, not Howard the Duck stuff.  A dealer
would have sold it.  
    
More'n 'nuff aid.
 er, said.
   Gene
From: shjohnso@plains.NoDak.edu (Shawn Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Mostly Mutants
Date: 20 Dec 92 20:00:05 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


     Any and all offers considered. 


DarkHawk		19, Annual 1
Excaliber		18, Mojo Mayhem
Incredible Hulk		391
Life of Capt. Marvel	1
Namor			20,22,23,24,28
The Ray			6
X-Factor		70, Annual 4
Uncanny X-Men		260,261,262,278,279,280,284


-shawn

  I didn't expect some kind of Spanish Inqusition!


shjohnso@plains.nodak.edu
From: byron@wet.UUCP (Byron C. Go)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Re: Which price guide?
Date: 20 Dec 92 02:15:11 GMT
Organization: The Delirium Fan Club


I'm kind of skeptical about this whole "use Overstreet and ONLY
Overstreet" mentality.  After all, didn't they claim that John
Romita, Jr. was a "HOT" artist (and, therefore, that many books
pencilled by him were hot) WAY after his popularity had seemingly
waned?  I haven't looked at any guides since May; they might STILL
be doing that for all I know.  Remember what the discussion then
went like?  ("Looks like Overstreet has too many of those books on
his hands and may be trying to influence the market.")  How soon we
forget.  Kind of diminishes their credibility, eh?

I agree that they're probably a good guide for Silver Age and
earlier books, but for more recent books I'm kinda skeptical for
the reason I just stated.


     byron  (:
-- 
byron c go	byron@wet.COM			byron@netcom.com

"I knew it would be in the last place I looked, so I looked there first."
						Delirium, of the Endless
From: silbrmnd@acf3.nyu.edu (Darkmage)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Books of Magic, any1?
Date: 20 Dec 92 19:00:15 GMT
Organization: New York University

Hi, I'm looking for the Books of Magic, 1-3....
Does anyone have any extra copies that they want to sell, or
know where I can buy them?

Thanx,

Darkmage, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

silbrmnd@acf3.nyu.edu
des0699@acfcluster.nyu.edu
From: mikecap@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Vince Caprio Jr)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Looking for someone
Date: 15 Dec 1992 06:03:40 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

ATTENTION DAN KARP:


I'm looking for the gentleman who posted here from California whose mailing
address I have misplaced.  Dan Karp, if you are reading this, I sent you the
check for the Hellblazer issues a while ago, and you should have gotten it.  I
have not yet however, recieved the goods.  I'd like to know if you have sent
them already or not, because if you didn't, I've got a new address for you to
send them too, since I won't be here for a few months.   My e-mail is 

mikecap@wpi.wpi.edu.


-- 
Unlike subject-object metaphysics the Metaphysics of Quality does not insist on
a single exclusive truth. If subjects and objects are held to be the ultimate 
reality then we're permitted only one construction of things - that which
corresponds to the "objective" world - and all other constructions are unreal.
From: db0s+@andrew.cmu.edu (David M. Bartlett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace,cmu.misc.market
Subject: Graphic Novels for Sale
Date: 12 Dec 92 22:55:20 GMT
Organization: Computer Repair, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

The following Graphic Novels are for sale:

$7.00  X-MEN:  God Loves, Man Kills
       Chris Claremong & Brent Anderson

$7.00  THE ROCKETEER
       Dave Stevens (The original Comic book version of the
        recent Disney movie).

Send email if interested
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Bloodshot Wanted
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:42:53 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Bloodshot
Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Keywords: 


Help!  My local store is out of Bloodshot #1.  If anyone could sell me their
copy or let me know where I could get one, I'd be more than willing to return
the favor (I have a mint copy of wildCATS #2 for trade if anyone's interested)

Thanks,

satish nair
From: opus@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Sanjay Raja)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: "Experts"
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:18:54 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu



	For those who feel that my previous posting was harsh...well,
 sorry. I really don't believe that any of these discussions belong on
 this newsgroup(which is why I asked the target of the posting to mail
 me personally to complain. I do not believe I started this. The whole
 idea of people being expert on the comic marketplace without a real link
 to the process was not a major issue or point in my first posting. Besides,
 just as many people dislike movie critics, I dislike so-called comic experts.
 It's not a big deal. This newsgroup is about comics and selling/buying them.
 I did not turn this into a discussion forum...on such stupid topics. Try
 to understand that I do not like being mis-quoted or misrepresented as a hate
 monger. And from my perspective, I was not about to back down from such 
 idiotic abuse/foolishness placed on me by said individual on a relatively
 public net as this one.

       I will not post news like this again on this board and again, I humbly 
 request that individuals do not waste space/time posting to this newsgroup in
 response to what I have said. They should e-mail me personally, and I will be 
 more than happy to oblige them if they desire a response. 

       Again, sorry for fueling the stupidity of someone else on the 
 net and forcing the rest of you to get involved in a dispute that I don't 
 think belongs here. 
-- 
                               
                                   ooooooo
                                 oo       oo
                                oo      oooooooooooo
From: bc751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Howard Z. Shiau)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Re: Superman 75 anecdote
Date: 15 Dec 1992 04:31:59 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bc751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Howard Z. Shiau)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, c60c-3gg@web-1a.berkeley.edu () says:

>In article <Bz3M7A.6I0@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> jchiu@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (James Chiu) writes:
>>wesselak@sunc0.cs.uiuc.edu (Erik Wesselak) writes:
>>> bc751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Howard Z. Shiau) writes:
>>> 
>>> >"Rare?  You know they printed 3 million copies, right?"
>>> 
>>> >I will never forget his reply:
>>> >    "Yeah, but there are 2 and a half billion people in the U.S.
>>> >     and everyone wants a copy"
>>> 
>>> I knew the population explosion was bad, but I didn't know it was THAT bad...
>>> 
>>I went to a comic shop that was selling the comic for $30.
>>
>>I also asked them if they did sell any and they said they sold 3.
>>
>>Later I found out that they lied and actually sold 0.
>>
>>Guess it was a way to make their pricing look reasonable by lying to
>>customers.
>
>Baged Set Superman 75:
>
>My local comic shop was selling 1st print for $10 the day I bought it.
>Two days later, the 1st printing sold out.
>Couple of days after that, 2nd printing arrived, and selling for $20.
>About a week or so later, 2nd printing sold out, they started a waiting
>list for third printing at $20, and the list was LONG.
>
>Is it just me, or are all my neighbors idiots (maybe I'm one too since I
>forked out 10 bucks)?  And just want to know, is this craze catching on/
>still going at other small towns and cities (I won't call Berkeley a big
>city *sigh*)
>
>							J.T.
>
>P.S. maybe I'm more of a idiot since this is the only DC comic I own.
>

Everything except for 1st printings are selling for cover price here
in New York City.

Howard
-- 
Howard Shiau                       bc751@cleveland.freenet.edu
Cosyde Corporation
From: cs_ind23@Oswego.EDU (James LaPlaine)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: How to SHIP em
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:58:59 GMT
Reply-To: cs_ind23@oswego.Oswego.EDU (James LaPlaine)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

How do most people go about sending comics to others on the net that have
purchased them. I have some comics that I would like to post on the net
to auction or sell. But I've been trying to think of the best way to ship
them. 
  Any help?
--
--------------------------------------------------
* cs_ind23@oswego.oswego.edu     a.k.a -> Static *
* James LaPlaine                                 * 
--------------------------------------------------
From: jchiu@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (James Chiu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Re: Which price guide?
Date: 15 Dec 92 08:18:17 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

menchett@pyramid.unr.edu (Peter J Menchetti) writes:
> Hey there-
> I'm kinda having a survey here... I'm trying to figure which price guide the
> majority of the world follows. Please send your vote for the price guide you con
> sult when buying and selling comics. Thanks. <menchett@cs.unr.edu>

When buying from a comic book shop, the shops mostly use
comics value monthly.  When the shops wants to buy a comic book
it's the price on the comics value monthly divided by two.
This way, the shops can earn the most profits out of all the other
price guide books.

Wizard sometimes prices too high or too low so it is inconsistent but
realistic for real current values that very generous comic shops would go by.

Overstreets is priced way too ridiculously low.  No comic book shop
would be insane enough to sell at those prices or they would go
bankrupt.

As for collectors selling to other collectors, a certain percent
off of overstreet price would be attractive to buyers.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sunday, 13 Dec 1992 23:46:33 CST
From: Noel B. Lorenzana <U38134@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Market report: Superman #75

I've seen it for $60 at a local comic shop in Glenview. I couldn't
control the laughter.

Noel.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
From: 16rtaylor@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Ricky Taylor)
Subject: Amethyst
Organization: Gallaudet U.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:11:29 GMT

Let's discuss about Amethyst, Princess of Gemworld.  The DC Comics killed the
Amethyst because of its less popularity.  Amethyst was revitalized in Keith
Giffen's style in Amethyst Miniseries and became a mate with Gemworld for a 
thousand years.  

Gemworld became a Sorcerer's World aka Zerox in Legion Of Super-Heroes.  
Archmage (former as Wrynn and Mordru) escaped from the underground prison and
roamed the universe to mess the Magic and science versions.  That's part I
will never understand because I never bought LSH.  

I already read the LSH Magic Wars Part 4 where they got a cameo appearance of
Amethyst from its world.  Amethyst knew White Witch very well as she told her to
let Amethyst die as "worlds must perish, so shall I."  LSH left the Gemworld as
Archmage destroyed Gemworld which eventually killed Archmage itself because he 
was bond to Gemworld more than he knew.  

Until a friend of mine showed me the LSH # 20 where Amethyst made a short
appearance by crying "Mysa...help me...", then it would never mentioned in the
next 25 issues.  

What happened?

Ricky Taylor
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
From: cliffr@pyuxf.uucp (25347-roberts)
Subject: image auction
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 16:38:30 GMT


*********   IMAGE COUPON BOOK AUCTION   ******************

Item #1:

CYBERFORCE #1

Current Bid: $4.25  P.S.
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Item #2:

WILDCATS #2

Current Bid: $3.00 N.B.
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Item #3:

SHADOWHAWK #1

Current Bid: $9.00 P.S. 
---------------------------------------------------------------------

ALL books are MT/NM and have full coupons intact.

ALL future bids should be make in increments of $1.00

Rules of the auction:

1) Bids held longer than one day will be marked 'going once','twice','sold'.

2) Postage on single item will be $2.00, with $1.00 per additional item.


3) I have to right to refuse any bid, and I have the right to remove the
   item from auction at any time.

4) Auction bids will only be taken Monday to Friday, Sat & Sun don't count.

5) Money order is preferred for immediate shipping, or check will have to 
   clear.

email all bids to : cliffr@pyuxf.cc.bellcore.com
Cliff.
From: c60c-3gg@web-1a.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Re: Superman 75 anecdote
Date: 15 Dec 92 03:42:53 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

In article <Bz3M7A.6I0@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> jchiu@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (James Chiu) writes:
>wesselak@sunc0.cs.uiuc.edu (Erik Wesselak) writes:
>> bc751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Howard Z. Shiau) writes:
>> 
>> >"Rare?  You know they printed 3 million copies, right?"
>> 
>> >I will never forget his reply:
>> >    "Yeah, but there are 2 and a half billion people in the U.S.
>> >     and everyone wants a copy"
>> 
>> I knew the population explosion was bad, but I didn't know it was THAT bad...
>> 
>I went to a comic shop that was selling the comic for $30.
>
>I also asked them if they did sell any and they said they sold 3.
>
>Later I found out that they lied and actually sold 0.
>
>Guess it was a way to make their pricing look reasonable by lying to
>customers.

Baged Set Superman 75:

My local comic shop was selling 1st print for $10 the day I bought it.
Two days later, the 1st printing sold out.
Couple of days after that, 2nd printing arrived, and selling for $20.
About a week or so later, 2nd printing sold out, they started a waiting
list for third printing at $20, and the list was LONG.

Is it just me, or are all my neighbors idiots (maybe I'm one too since I
forked out 10 bucks)?  And just want to know, is this craze catching on/
still going at other small towns and cities (I won't call Berkeley a big
city *sigh*)

							J.T.

P.S. maybe I'm more of a idiot since this is the only DC comic I own.
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