From: myempire@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Matt J. Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Official Dorm-Rec Review of "A Fistful of Data's" (spoilers)
Date: 16 Nov 92 01:35:32 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Nov15.212110.7849@mercury.cair.du.edu> cwarrick@diana.cair.du.edu (CATHERINE E. WARRICK) writes:
>>
>     Ok, you little pigs.  I've sat here and read endless lines of ignorant,
>obnoxious sexism, and finally I've had more than enough.  You must have
>realized from the responses to the last round of comments about Troi's figure
>that some of us are offended by this.  Obviously, you don't care.  That being
>the case, you deserve to be flamed until you're roasted well done.  I shall
>do so gleefully.

  Hang on  there, sweetheart, who'se reactionary now?

>     What's the problem, guys?  Why does it bother you to see "Troi saving
>Worf's ass", or Keiko, or Troi beating Data at chess?  Why is Crusher, in
>a rare authority role, "a total bitch"? Of course, female figures with
>real authority are such a rarity on this show, I can understand your surprise.
>But the junior-high level reactions are pitiful.  I thought the show's
>writers were often sexist, but you clowns could give them lessons.  

  Being annoyed with Troi saving Worf's ass has nothing to do with sexism
and everything to do with Troi being spineless, jelly-fish, chocalate eclair,
post-industrial, last-modernist, introverted, pseudo-aware, psycho-babbling,
obvious-fact-stating, retro-asserting, window-dressing, pain-in-the-ass of
a charachter.  She, as a character, has added nothing to the show but a 
very tempting target for abuse.  We hate her, a lot.  

>And no, I donot care if you were "just kidding."  It's a nice excuse, but I'm not buying.

  Absolutely, we were not kidding.  The last thing we want to be accused of
is harboring the very same attributes that caused us to criticize Troi in 
the first place.

>You know, if you talked about Geordi like this, on the grounds that he's black  and  you had a problem with black authority figures, you'd be slaughtered as
>a bigot, and rightly so.  This isn't much different.  
  
  Listen, the ST writers started this by putting various women in sexist roles.
If they hadn't put Sirtis in a costume that invites it, we would be in no 
position to remark at the elephantive nature of her butt.  In fact, the only
women who they've given a reasonable strong character, Ro, is immediately
cast in the role of the Ship Bitch, and we never see her anymore.  

  It seems to me that your accusation of judging people on the basis of their
gender is completely unwarrented.  Mainly because I consider myself to be
superior to ALL other human beings, not just women.  And my guess is so do you.

>So grab a crowbar and
>pry open your minds, you women-fearing morons.
>
  I fear bad scripts more than I fear women.  And I never met a woman that 
was a match for me, in any area.  Nope, no fear here.  Thank you for playing,
please feel free to try again.


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