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From: hubcap@hubcap.clemson.edu (System Janitor)
Subject: Re: Hornets and wasps and bees oh my!
Organization: Clemson University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:25:28 GMT

I live in SC. I recently aquired 11 acres of land, some of it cut over in
recent years, leaving rotted stumps in the woods. The woods are full of
underground ``yellow jacket'' nests. These bees are agressive and
their sting is painful. I have lived in SC all my life, since 1957. These
bees are the same $&*#^%'s that I've seen all my life. I've had many 
unfortunate encounters with these bees dating back as far as the mid
60's anyhow. You see, the muscadine vines in the woods seem to attract
both yellow jackets and children :-).

Not to doubt your word or anything, there may be differences that matter to
an entomologist, but there's never (in the last 30 years or so) been any
shortage of mean ground-dwelling yellow jackets around here.

-Mike
Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house
From: patter@dasher.uucp (24224-guthrie)
Subject: Re: How to get rid of lawn grubs?
Reply-To: patter@dasher.cc.bellcore.com
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 17:41:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.160750.2996@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> mks@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (manishkumar.sharma) writes:
>While spot-weeding this past weekend, I noticed little grubs crawling
>around just under the top layer of my lawn. This could be one reason why
>my lawn seems to be dying in certain spots in spite of heavy rains recently.
>What is an effective way to get rid of them? Pesticide spray?
>Can I get something for this in Home Depot?

Channel has a sale going at the moment on "lawn insect killer". You might
check that out.

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From: ajg@controls.ccd.harris.com (Arnold Goldberg)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house
Subject: Re: Killing burglars.
Date: 17 Aug 92 12:59:47 GMT
	<1992Aug14.181611.23008@informix.com>
	<1992Aug17.035838.9792@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
Organization: Harris Controls and Compositions


I think it's pretty easy to tell anyone who has posted re. this thread
who has had his/her house broken into.

Those of us who have had burglers enter our house probably feel a little
more emphatic about our right to protect ourself to any extreme we feel.

I know I do, almost overnight, since my house was broken into this weekend.
If I would have been there, the way I feel right now, I would have liked to
have killed the @#$#@$.  But who knows how I would have reacted in a real
situation :)

arnold

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From: duggan@cc.gatech.edu (Rick Duggan)
Subject: Re: Killing burglars.
Organization: College of Computing
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:19:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.161317.28860@informix.com> davek@informix.com (David Kosenko) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.035838.9792@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> 
>	patter@dasher.uucp (24224-guthrie) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug14.181611.23008@informix.com> davek@informix.com 
>	(David Kosenko) writes:
>>
>>>if someone breaks a law, it is up to the system to find them guilty.
>>>Someone breaking into your house *still* has the right to due
>>>process under the law.  Sure, if they threaten your life, you can
>>>shoot/whatever them in self defence.  The onus is on *you*, though, to
>>>be able to prove your life was threatened.  

No, it's not.  See my next paragraph.  I don't have to prove 
anything.

>>
>>Sorry, but you can't have it both ways. The onus is still on the system
>>to prove that he *didn't* attack me. If the system wants to try.
>
>Well, I'm no lawyer, but my understanding is that, should you kill such
>person, you could be charged with manslaugter or whatever.  It would be
>up to you and your lawyer to convince the jury that you acted in 
>self-defence.  I find it very hard to believe that charges would not be
>brought against you.  Generally, the police do not look favorably on
>people taking justice into their own hands.
>

Even if charges are brought against you, you don't need to do the
proving.  Just like the thief has a right to due process, so do 
you.  That means that someone must prove (beyond a reasonable
doubt) to a jury that your life was not in danger.  You don't
have to prove it was, you just have to raise doubt in their
proof that it wasn't.  That's quite different.  

Let's say you were on trial and said, ``Well, I woke up in 
the middle of the night with a stranger, whose intentions
I did not know, in my home.  I feared for my life.''
I know I would believe you.  There's reasonable doubt, and
you walk.

-rick

"Random acts of violence just don't do it for me anymore.  Call it 
 maturity.  Bang!  Bang!  Heh, heh." - Cactus Jack WCW Saturday Night 07/04/92
Rick Duggan | duggan@cc.gatech.edu | CS1410 TA - Section A
Office Hours (CC 103): Tue 1:30-3:00 Thu 1:30-2:30
From: seanp@undr.org (Sean Petty)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house
Subject: Loose fill insulation?
Date: 19 Aug 92 04:47:25 GMT
Reply-To: Sean Petty <undr!seanp@gvls1.GVL.Unisys.COM>
Followup-To: poster
Organization: The Underground - Pennsylvania



        Well, I am in need of some help with this stuff.  I have an
        attic full of loose fill insulation, which I have proceeded to
        matt down while installing antennas, wires, etc.  About 55% of
        the attic has had the insulation compressed, and what I need to
        know is what should I do about it.

        Is there a way to re-"fluff" it?  Should I buy some (how much,
        where, etc) and dump it in the bad spots, or should I just
        forget it?

        Any experiences, recommedations, etc. would be appreciated.

        Sean

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From: douglis@MITL.COM (Fred Douglis)
Subject: condo insurance: how much $$ for interior?
Organization: Matsushita Information Technology Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:24:53 GMT

I'm in the process of obtaining homeowners insurance for a townhome.
I was told the default coverage for fixtures is $1K, which didn't sound
so bad when I thought it was only fixtures -- then I found out
this cap also applies to rebuilding the floor, interior walls, bathrooms,
etc. should the place fall apart (e.g. burns down). 

I asked how much extra coverage is typical and was told anywhere from
the full value of the townhome to 1/2 the value to nothing.  Since the
cost of this coverage would likely exceed the cost of all the other
applicable insurance (liability, possessions, etc.), I don't want to
get more than I need.  Is there a rule of thumb?

Thanks for answers... reply to me and I'll summarize if appropriate.
-- 
Fred Douglis
Matsushita Information Technology Laboratory  | Email: douglis@mitl.com
182 Nassau Street			      | Phone: +1 609 497-4600
Princeton, NJ 08542 USA 		      | Fax:   +1 609 497-4013
Xref: sparky misc.consumers.house:10919 ca.environment:803
From: nelson@rrc.chevron.com (David A. Nelson,Chevron,(510)242-5241)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house,ca.environment
Subject: Lead Paint in Houses:  What to do
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:41:40 GMT
Reply-To: nelson@rrc.chevron.com
Followup-To: misc.consumers.house
Organization: Chevron, Richmond, California



We have discovered that some of the exterior of our house was painted with lead paint.  I am looking for some advise on what to do about it. Could people please respond by email to this post and then I will post a summary.

 We have been talking to contractors about the various options for lead removal and they seem basically to be uninformed on the subject.  I am frightened that they are going to charge massive amounts of money but not really do anything that protects my family or themselves.  

Some specific questions:

1.  At what lead level (in the paint) do you need to be concerned ?

2.  Is this a risk to the householder or the painting contractor?

3.  Are there any laws on how to handle leaded paint?

4.  Do I incur any liability to the painting contractor for employee medical problems caused by the lead.

5.  Does anybody have specific experiences with this.

6.  Recommendations.


Thanks in advance.

David Nelson
Nelson@chevron.com

Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house
From: din@dasher.uucp (Dinesh Nettar)
Subject: How to Hang a Carpet Face Down on the ceiling?
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 17:20:16 GMT
Keywords: carpet, ceiling

We have a 9'X6' silk hand-knotted carpet that is too big for our walls.
We don't want it to be on the floor (its intended purpose) yet.

In the interim, we want to hang it face down from the living
room ceiling.

Give me some ideas, please.

Our ceiling has studs every 24 inches, covered by half-inch
drywall.  The carpet is quite heavy, about 50 lbs.  The knots
are very close, and only a fine wire or thread can go through.
A thin nail can, if I carefully find the gap between the knots.

I tried screwing in several 1X3's to the ceiling
and nailing the carpet, but the thin nails simply slipped from
the wood.

Can I use adhesive tape?  Will it take the weight?

Thanks.

Dinesh
din@dasher.cc.bellcore.com
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house
Subject: Re: Demolition Derby!
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:18:12 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 23213@i88.isc.com, jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>
>Any suggestions?  Or is this just one of those dirty jobs that require
>patience and time?

Buy a couple of cases of beer, go to your local college, and invite
some jocks over for a party.  It works in every house I've lived in!

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Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house
From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov ( Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: Telephone Outlets
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 00:04:57 GMT

In article <5942@grus.cs.nps.navy.mil> erickson@cs.nps.navy.mil (David Erickson) writes:
>
>Are all cordless phones easy to monitor?  I thought they had built in
>scrambling circuitry, which is set according to a small bank of
>dip switches.   We bought a Sony cordless recently, and we were told
>that it has built-in scrambling.  Are you saying that the scrambling
>is easy to defeat with the $200 in equipment, or do your comments apply
>to cordless phones which do not have scrambling built in?

The DIP switches you describe set a code for call initiation.  All that is
useful for is to prevent other folks from using your base set to make calls
from.

The cordless phones that have built-in scrambling use a voice inversion
scheme.  They use two oscillator/mixer stages to bring the voice signal
up to a higher frequency, and then downconvert it back into the audio
band with the high and low frequencies reversed.  (This used to be called
Krenkelkan encryption during WWII, since the word "telephone" sounded like
"krenkelkan" when inverted.)  It's a fairly easy matter to build an
inverter to listen to the calls, or they sell them in the back of the
monitoring magazines for $50 or so.
--scott
From: vonzelow@adobe.com (Jon von Zelowitz)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house
Subject: Re: ULF Toilets
Date: 20 Aug 92 07:02:26 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

In article <1e2103qh5e5b00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> lmtra@uts.amdahl.com (Leon Traister) writes:
>We'll be needing to install water-conserving toilets as part of a
>remodelling project and would like to use a 1.6 gallon model if possible.

I have had the Kohler Wentworth for about a year. It is mechanically almost
identical to a regular toilet, and perfectly reliable. It ejects stuff quite
well, and since the tank is actually a normal size tank, you can hold the
handle down for an extra-big flush. I'm a satisfied customer.

   Jon von Zelowitz   vonzelow@adobe.com   ...sun!adobe!vonzelow
Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house
Subject: Re: Telephone Outlets
From: gary@cdthq.UUCP (Gary Heston)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 21:38:12 CDT
Organization: Garys' Home for Obsolete Computers

egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:

> In article 21159@col.hp.com, tvervaek@col.hp.com (Tom Vervaeke) writes:
> > 
> >We have a cordless phone but do not use it too much. Many of the neighbors
> >do have scanner, etc.. and I live privacy. 
> 
> This is the second time I've heard this.  Are you people really that
> worried about your neighbors buying expensive electronic equipment just
> so they can listen to your phone calls?  Even so, what are you afraid
> of, that they will know when you mother in law is coming to visit?

It doesn't take expensive equipment; it's possible to monitor virtually
all home comm appliances (cordless phones, cellular phones, baby monitors,
intercoms, etc.) for about $200 spent at Radio Shack. And the ease of
monitoring is one reason I don't have a cordless phone; I'm sufficiently
aware how easy it is, and I don't think anyone needs to know my credit
card number (used for mail ordering equipment) or SSN (used when ordering
tax forms or requesting tax-related info); they don't need to know my
checking account balance or account number, etc. unless I want them
to. If I want them to know it, I'll inform them directly.

> Anybody snooping on my cordless is going to hear a lot of really boring
> (to anybody but me) chit chat about my niece, and an occasional Chinese
> food order.  BFD.

Right, if that's all you ever mention on the phone. Some people talk
about more serious or sensitive matters.

> I suppose if you have teenagers, there is a real security risk... like,
> Sally might actually learn that Joey thinks Betty is cute.

It's happened. A lot of private investigators have bought scanners, too;
they're very useful in divorce-related investigations....

You can broadcast to the world if you want; I'd rather not.

Gary Heston, at home....
gary@cdthq.uucp
Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house
From: wreck@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com (R. Cage)
Subject: Re: Frogs in front yard
Summary: Say what?
Organization: Ford Motor Company Scientific Research Labs, Dearborn, MI
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:57:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.213743.4863@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com> parikh@sirocco.eng.hou.compaq.com (Vijay Parikh) writes:
>How to get rid of the frogs?

Amphibian populations are shrinking mysteriously all over
the world, and some species have gone extinct for unknown
reasons, and you want to *get rid of frogs*?!
From: macrakis@osf.org (Stavros Macrakis)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house
Subject: Re: followup--attic fans, counterpoint
Date: 20 Aug 92 22:58:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: next4.MACRAKIS.92Aug20155830
Organization: OSF Research Institute

In article <1992Aug20.162752.23024@ddsw1.mcs.com> tcubed@ddsw1.mcs.com (James Hanlon) writes:

   Re attic fans. ...If you really want to vent your attic, get one of
   those wind turbines that rotate in the wind.... Me, I added mucho
   insulation to my attic; it's not as effective, but it is completely
   passive and foolproof...

Attic insulation and ventilation have different functions.  Both
isolate the rest of the house from heat absorbed by the roof.
However, insulation does not protect the roof itself from excess heat
and humidity.  Excess heat is bad for roof shingles; excess humidity
for framing.

	-s
From: davek@informix.com (David Kosenko)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house
Subject: Re: Making low offers
Keywords: house buying
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:00:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Aug18.232058.15847@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> 
	patter@dasher.uucp (24224-guthrie) writes:
>In article <heflin.714148311@pink1> heflin@rtsg.mot.com (Suzanne Stratton Heflin) writes:
>
>>I can't believe you sold a house for 20% less than what you listed for.
>
>You obviously are unfamiliar with the Real Estate situation in New
>Jersey. He's lucky to have sold it at all!.


Hmmm.  Have you been in the market *recently*, George?  It is my experience
that the situation is *currently* the exact opposite: There are a lot of
buyers, but the inventory is low (that was the case in the beginning of
the year, when I was looking).  I know some folks who are looking to spend
mid $200K in the greater Monmouth County area, and have seen nothing but
junk.  Most of the houses that were on the market when I was looking
were either overpriced or had some major problems.  With the low rates,
lots of people are in the market, but the houses are just not there.
That was *not* the case a year ago (when it was as you describe).

Dave
-- 
Disclaimer: These opinions are not those of Informix Software, Inc.
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From: wang@optigfx.optigfx.com (Alice Wang)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house
Subject: Stinky Sink
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:29:21 GMT
Followup-To: misc.consumers.house
Organization: Optigraphics Corporation, San Diego


Please pardon me if this is a FAQ but I'm not a regular of
this news group...

What is the best treatment for a stinky kitchen sink?

We have bought a 17 year old house and completely remodeled
the kitchen.  We have a new Elkay (sp?) stainless steel sink,
a Waste King garbage disposer (3/4 HP?) and new piping underneath
the sink.  Despite all these new accessaries, the sink still
smells, mostly from the garbage disposer side.  I've grind
lemons in it once a week but that only masks out the odor for
10 minutes.  Is there any good products out there for this
problem?

Please e-mail all responses.

Thanks in advance for you help.
Alice Wang
wang@optigfx.com
From: pete@carrera.wvus.org (Pete Gregory)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house
Subject: Re: Address of IKEA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 08:00:44 PDT
Organization: Private System

rro@cs.ColoState.EDU (Rod Oldehoeft) writes:

> In article <1992Aug12.041342.21565@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, patter@dasher.uu
> |> 
> |> I just happened to get a catalogue day before yesterday. There are seven i
> |> the US.
> 
> Many of us would appreciate you, or someone, posting a telephone
> number we could call to get on the catalog mailing list.

i can only find phone numbers for each of their stores.  perhaps they can
put you on their mailing list or give you another phone number you can call.

818.842.4532
818.912.4532
714.829.4532
714.838.4000
310.527.4532


Pete Gregory, at home

pete@carrera.wvus.org
ames!elroy!wvus!carrera!pete
Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house
From: keith@clodii.Columbia.NCR.COM (Keith Boyd)
Subject: Re: How do I keep dogs away from my house?
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 19:04:18 GMT

In article <1992Aug7.143825.27446@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> patter@dasher.cc.bellcore.com writes:
>In article <1992Aug7.012540.25450@novell.com> dougb@novell.com (Doug Barlow) writes:
>>My neighbors let their dogs run free and it makes me mad.  They take these
>>monster-size dumps on my front lawn.  How do I keep them away?
>
>>Is there something that is electronic that is in the ultrasonic range to 
>>keep them away?
>
>Have you checked out a product called "Invisible Fencing"? If I remember
>the ad blurb correctly, it's a wire buried around your property which
>dogs won't cross. Don't know how it works.
>
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>George Patterson -  | Revolution - n; An abrupt change in the form of
>                    | misgovernment.
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Nice try George, but the "invisble fence" won't work in this case.
Why not you ask?   The dog in question is "retained" within the 
fence with a shock collar. When the dog gets to close to the fence,
a reciever in the collar picks up a signal from the "invisible 
fence" and issues a small electric charge to the dog. Dog gets smart 
after so many shocks and stays away from fringe area. The neighbors
dogs, likewise, would have to be wearing a shock collar to be repelled
from getting too close to the same fringe area. 

Cabela's/Gander Mountain/Bass Pro carry a device which is just what
the original poster described. It is called Barker Breaker. It emits
ultrasonic freq. which plays heck with dog hearing. It is intended
to stop dogs from barking but may work also to keep dogs away from
a small area. You may be able to find it at a good pet shop too. 

My suggestion is a good ole' BB gun set to low velocity, of course.
Just enough to sting. Just don't let the neighbors or anyone see you
do it and don't say you read it here either.

Keith

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From: jab3@cec2.wustl.edu (John Alonzo Breen)
Subject: Re: Need advice on replacing plastic gutters
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:18:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.030628.21137@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> jdg@devine.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Jim Griggers) writes:
>I just got through pulling down aluminum gutters and replaced them with
>vinyl gutters.  The old aluminum gutters always leaked, no matter what
>I tried to seal them with.  The vinyl gutters have a silicone foam seal
>that looks like it will not leak.  They have been up for several months
>and so far, so good.  The vinyl gutters were quite a bit more expensive
>than the equivalent aluminum ones.  The vinyl gutters are not glued but
>simply snap into the connectors.

Well, this doesn't sound encouraging, although aluminum can't be worse
than the plastic ones I've got now.  I think the biggest problem is
that the downspout is quite a bit smaller than an aluminum would be,
so I get a lot of overflow (I could add another downspout at the other
end, but that would be in the middle of the front of the house, and
there's no convenient way to redirect the output).  Another problem is
that the gutters won't stay in the little plastic brackets (I think
the ridge of the snap has worn or broken off).

>>3.  fascia board: does anyone know what kind of wood this should be?
>>Pine?  Redwood?  I may have to replace a section.
>>
>Mine is cedar, which matches my house's siding.  Try matching the fascia
>board you are replacing.

Unfortunately, it's painted, and I'm no wood expert.
--
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