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From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: ROBOTECH...Any orriginal animation? or is it all hacked?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 05:23:32 GMT

In article <2381@newsserver.cs.uwindsor.ca> maxcon@server.uwindsor.ca (Christopher Leung) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.000459.3501@netcom.com> albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku) writes:
>>Harmony Gold didn't hack three differenet series to make Robotech...they
>>glued them together. ^_^;
>
>Glue, eh?  In which we have a choice of stick glue, white glue, colour glue,
>paste, and rubber cement.  I wonder which one he used? B-}

Under the right conditions...b*llshit is very sticky. ^O^
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: chadwick@world.std.com (Chadwick Ngan)
Subject: Re: RAA Statistics for 1992 (the top 200 posters)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:12:28 GMT

In article <1919@tnc.UUCP> m0336@tnc.UUCP (Ralph Jenkins) writes:

>   Let me pose a question.  Of the Top 10 r.a.a posters, how many
>spent more time reading and writing messages on their computers than
>they did actually watching anime?
> 
>   Seems fandom can be addicting.

	Heck, I am within the top 55 and I spend more time reading this
newsgroup than watching anime!     :)


					Chadwick
					Sheeta "the Elf"
From: rang@laputa.ics.uci.edu (Roger P. Ang)
Subject: Re: SVHS tips
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Reply-To: rang@ics.uci.edu (Roger P. Ang)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 8 Jan 93 01:08:50 GMT

In article <C0G0yB.CM@ecf.toronto.edu> linmo@ecf.toronto.edu (LIN MONTEIL) writes:
>In article <mNmXwB1w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> wfrey@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Warren Frey) writes:
>>
>>4) starving student: welcome to the club! What you use depends on your
>>source. If you dub off tape or disc, then at minimum a drilled HG tape
>>will suffice. I reccomend Fuji AV Pro,  Sony V HG and BASF videotapes.
>>"Normal" tapes won't be sufficient. Incidentally, if you intend to tape
>>off television in SVHS, don't use anything less than a true S-VHS tape,
>>because the noise is bloody awful. When I want say "The Simpsons" or TNG
>>but I'm going to be out, I dub the show on an SVHS tape, then tape it
>>down to VHS for collecting. the VHS dub is virtually as good as taping
>>off TV in the first place.

>That's interesting. You seem to say that for a bad source I should use SVHS
>tape and for a good source a normal HG tape will do. That's the complete
>opposite of what I thought originally. Interesting.

	This should really be moved to rec.video, but first let me
clarify what I think Lin Monteil is getting at.  Feel free to correct
me, anyone.

	NTSC (TV broadcast standard in US and many other places) is
lower resolution than SVHS but higher or about the same as VHS.  This
is meant in terms of lines of horizontal resolution.  I think SVHS is
about 400 lines and VHS is somewhere between 200-300 [don't quote me].
So unless you're getting some great video source like from laser disk
or another SVHS tape, it's probably not worth putting to SVHS since
the source is probably closer to VHS resolution.  Also, I think I've
heard someone say many TV stations don't bother to put out a good
quality signal, and their broadcasts are below the full NTSC standard
as far as resolution is concerned (even more reason to use VHS).
	Another thing to consider is you monitoring equipment.  If
your TV doesn't have SVHS input or isn't 400+ lines of resolution, you
probably aren't getting a benefit from the SVHS VCR.

	Let me pose another question: Why get an SVHS VCR?  Really.
Yes, it has better resolution than VHS.  But what are you going to
play or record, that a 4-head Hi-Fi VHS VCR wouldn't be suitable for.
I haven't heard of readily available releases in SVHS format and TV is
a waste of SVHS's capabilities.  If you want LD-quality, why not do a
direct route of getting an LD player?  Until there are HD TV
broadcasts in the U.S., I, personally, don't really see the point of
SVHS, even as a videophile.

                                        Roger P. Ang (rang@laputa.ics.uci.edu)
Irvine? Where's Irvine?                 Grad student at the
In the heart of the Orange Curtain.     Dept. of Information & Computer Sci.
Oh no! The poor fool.                   Univ. of California, Irvine.  USA
From: mvcy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Cyborg 009
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:09:48 EST
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

In article <1993Jan7.145710.3709@nic.csu.net>,
ramberg@futon.SFSU.EDU (James Ramberg) writes: 
> In article <Jan05.080847.39872@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura) writes:
> 
> [ save bandwidth ]
>>	004 may have machine gun fingers, too, I guess.
>>	There are two versions of 007; one a kid and the other an adult.  I
>>	believe the adult version was on TV series, and he was an actor.
>>	Well, let's see... his name was Great Britain or something like that,
>>	wasn't it??  
>  Yep! those sound right by memory ...
> 

For those of you who are hard-core anime historians, there were actually two
versions of Cyborg 009.  The first TV series was black & white, aired around
1967 and had 007 as the kid.  In this series, 009 wears a uniform different
in shade from the others.  (BTW, this is japanese tv)  The second series
was aired around 1978 (I think) and featured characters more true to the
original comic by Shotaro Ishimori.  007 is a man in this one.  I still
remember the theme song from the B&W version.  Talk about old!  The golden
days of 8-man, Wonder 3, Yusei kamen and others.

Satoshi Amagai
From: dcb@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Predecrement David)
Subject: Re: RAA Statistics for 1992 (the top 200 posters)
Organization: Gokuraku Videos
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:46:45 GMT

coram@ed.ecn.purdue.edu (Chaosmage) writes:
>In article <1919@tnc.UUCP> m0336@tnc.UUCP (Ralph Jenkins) writes:
>>
>>   Let me pose a question.  Of the Top 10 r.a.a posters, how many
>>spent more time reading and writing messages on their computers than
>>they did actually watching anime?
>
>I usually only watch anime at the PAC meeting, which gives me about four
>hours a week.  I spend more time than that wading through the articles
>here, especially when I can't resist replying to a lot of them.

I'm number 9. (Gee wiz.)  I spend far more time reading news than watching
anime.  Here are all my anime related activities:

Watching anime: One two-hour sitting every two weeks.
"Reading" manga: One half hour a day.
Visiting Nikaku: Once a week, for about a half hour.
Reading r.a.a: 1/2 to 1 hour each weekday.

--David "Still can't decide whether to buy 'Spirit of Wonder'..."
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From: bs783@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Fubler Harvey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Mermaid's Forest
Date: 8 Jan 1993 19:08:23 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bs783@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Fubler Harvey)
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In a previous article, cr561@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Lee Gum) says:

>
>> can anyone provide me a script or synopsis for the OVA!!!
>
>I've been told that the "Mermaids'Forest" OVA is follows
>chapters 5 & 6 of the manga rather faithfully--I'm certain there
>are manga translations out there, but I'm not sure where.
>

Or he could just wait till it's released subtitled from USMC.

-Jei

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: orange Road in LD..
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:52:31 GMT

In article <5JAN93.10190775@hal.hahnemann.edu> yij@hal.hahnemann.edu writes:
>So.. Orange Road in T.V series in LD are out of picture???
>until Animego finishes UY???
>
>
>hmm.. 5 years to finish UY.. wow.. I wonder how long it will take
>to collect UY LDs.. :)))
>

The UY LDs will go out after the KOR TV LD. ^O^
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From: amelman@orion.oac.uci.edu (Wan Dabada)
Subject: NG Knight Lamune & 40 OP1: Nekketsu - Yuusha Lamunes lyrics
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:03:38 GMT

---------------------------------------

    I haven't really been posting my romaji lyrics, however, since numerous
people have asked, I will post the Lamune & 40 lyrics.

Hot Blood!! Yuusha Lamune
-------------------------
NG Knight Lamune & 40
OP #1
Romaji by Megane
-------------------------
 
Kaze ga yonderu ze (Yei! Yei! Yei!)
Ore o yonderu ze (Yei! Yei! Yei!)
Hashire...hashire...doko made mo...chikara no kagiri
 
Akai taiyoo ga (Yei! Yei! Yei!)
Ore o matteru ze (Yei! Yei! Yei!)
Susume...susume...otoko nara...makecha ikenai
Ore wa itsu demo...moeteru no sa
Kawaii ko ni wa...sugu ni MERO MERO
Mushiba ni nattara...namida BORO BORO
Sonna ore demo...atsuku atsuku nareba
Kita kita...KI-TA-TA-TA-BO de PUTTSUN! (PUTTSUN!)
 
Minna okureru na (Yei! Yei! Yei!)
Ore ni tsuite koi (Yei! Yei! Yei!)
Tobase...tobase...mooretsu ni kokoro ga sakebu
Ore wa yuusha (OH!)...LAMUNES
 
Gakko ikeba...itsumo GAYA GAYA
Kyookasho miru to...naze ka SUYA SUYA
Sonna ore demo...atsuku atsuku nareba
Kita kita...KI-TA-TA-TA-BO de PUTTSUN! (PUTTSUN!)
 
Kaze ga yonderu ze (Yei! Yei! Yei!)
Ore o yonderu ze (Yei! Yei! Yei!)
Hashire...hashire...doko made mo...chikara no kagiri
 
Minna okureru na (Yei! Yei! Yei!)
Ore ni tsuite koi (Yei! Yei! Yei!)
Iku ze...iku ze...nekketsu da yuusha o shimese
Kimi mo yuusha (OH!)...LAMUNES

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From: shogun@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Mike M. Tatsugawa)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Anime Expo Hotel (Additional Info)
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:32:20 GMT
Organization: The Society for the Promotion of Japanese Animation

A few people have E-mailed me asking for clarification on the hotel
information that I recently posted.  The Oakland Convention Center and
the Parc Oakland Hotel are PHYSICALLY connected to each other.  Thus,
you it could hail all July 4th weekend, and you may not know about it.
Also, the entrance to BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) (The Bay Area's
main rail system) is across the street.  Thus, if you wanted to
shopping in Union Square in San Francisco, you exit the Parc Oakland,
cross the street, but a $3.10 round trip ticket, jump in a San
Francisco train and in minutes, you exit directly from BART into Union
Square.  For those of you who are wondering, BART is more like the
Japanese train system in terms of fares, quality, on-time arrivals
than other subway systems like New York.  BART connects to San
Francisco, Berkeley, Richmond, Concord, Fremont, Daly City and numerous
other Bay Area cities.  Shuttle service also runs to Oakland
International and buses run to San Francisco International Airport.

Any other questions, just E-mail them to me...

Mike

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President, SPJA:  2425 B Channing, Suite 684, Brk, CA 94704
Publicity Coordinator, Anime Expo '93
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: AD Vision?! Never heard of them. (Was: Anime Seiya addenem Summary)
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:40:11 GMT

In article <2362@newsserver.cs.uwindsor.ca> maxcon@server.uwindsor.ca (Christopher Leung) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.230832.26963@netcom.com> albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku) writes:
>
>>Well, my original Mamono Hunter Yohko LD is rotting...so I was hoping AD
>>Vision would do an LD...for cheap too. ^_^
>
>It would be nice to have the LD for a decent price say around the cost of the
>tape! :)  So where is our AD Visison Representative?  We need you to sell the
>LD scheme to the rest of you guys!
>

Of the US translated titles that have made it onto LD, the pricing for said
LDs are dirt cheap compared to the original import version. ^_^

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From: bs783@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Fubler Harvey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Guyver?
Date: 8 Jan 1993 19:32:07 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bs783@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Fubler Harvey)
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In a previous article, tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) says:

>please don't flame if the spellign is wrong.  I've never seen it,
>however I did see a live action film with Mark Hamil (Star Wars, the Flash,
>etc) at BLockbuster, adn was wondering if they were connected in any way.
>

It's just the live action movie based on the anime.
The anime is Much better than the live action movie.

"DYNOMITE!"
    -Jimmy Walker in "Guyver" :)

>the Clueless LJC
>-- 
>Lady Johanna Constantine* Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will
>tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu   * endure when mere facts are dust, and ashes, and
>Disclaimer - huh?       * forgot.      -Dream of the Endless (and Neil G.)
>Church of Our Lady of the Perpetually Clueless, donations accepted......
>


-Jei

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Subject: Re: BGCrisis! Episode 3
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:02:36 GMT

In article <8fGuTnq00WAL83Gscp@andrew.cmu.edu> rb6t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Everett Brunskill) writes:
>Recently I saw a friend's copy of BGC1, and liked it.  When I later went
>to the store I intended to get eps 2, but they didn't have it so I got
>eps 3.  Does this tape happen to be the worst of the series, or am I
>just missing something by not seeing eps 2?

The former - I thought eps 3 was the worst of the entire series.  Like
you said, the death of Sho's mother (they didn't even give her a
name!) was devoid of anything but plot significance, Sho is basically
jettisoned at the end, and the final confrontation between Sylia and Mason
is dull (and does anyone else think that Mason's suit is stupid-looking?).
What should've been a pivotal moment in the series feels more like filler;
they either should've dumped the Sho-and-his-mother plot thread to focus
on Sylia-and-Mason or made the OAV longer to develop both threads.

>Don't mind me, I'm just bitter for shelling out $34.95 for 30 minutes of
>boredom.

Understandable.

>By the way, how is MD Geist?  It's about the only other thing the video
>store here carries.

I haven't seen it yet, but from all I've heard it's pretty mediocre.
*Maybe* worth renting, but *not* worth buying.
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From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Animeigo (should) release KOR tv series LDs!!
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 12:52:52 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <1906@tnc.UUCP> m0336@tnc.UUCP writes:
 >  
 >    Let's put it this way:  if AnimEigo can do over 200 episodes of
 > Urusei Yatsura, then 48 KOR episodes shouldn't be too much to handle!
 > I'd buy the Japanese box set now, except for the laser rot problems!

THe "rotting" box set only has the OAVs and the movie in it. Not the TV
episodes.

 >    And the KOR TV series *does* crush the OAVs.

so-so. I think the OAVs are just as good as the TV series. The TV
series does waffle just a touch in a couple of episodes, just like the
OAVs.

 >    The only problem I forsee is that since AnimEigo has already
 > released the movie, a lot of people will know how the show ends before
 > even seeing the first TV episode!

Not really, since the TV series and movie end quite (understatement)
differently (in story elements, that is, both end with Kasuga and
Ayukawa together).

 >    I wonder also how Urusei Yatsura has been selling.  I'm inclined to
 > think not very well.  While it may be one of the most popular comedy
 > series in Japan, this isn't Japan, and   remember how Viz's Lum
 > series did?

Remember that was in the VERY early days of fandom. I know people
locally (in PAL country) who are trying to buy the whole lot of tapes,
and these are people I never expected to buy anime in NTSC.

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: linmo@ecf.toronto.edu (LIN MONTEIL)
Subject: Re: SVHS tips
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:37:21 GMT

In article <mNmXwB1w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> wfrey@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Warren Frey) writes:
>
>4) starving student: welcome to the club! What you use depends on your 
>source. If you dub off tape or disc, then at minimum a drilled HG tape 
>will suffice. I reccomend Fuji AV Pro,  Sony V HG and BASF videotapes. 
>"Normal" tapes won't be sufficient. Incidentally, if you intend to tape 
>off television in SVHS, don't use anything less than a true S-VHS tape, 
>because the noise is bloody awful. When I want say "The Simpsons" or TNG 
>but I'm going to be out, I dub the show on an SVHS tape, then tape it 
>down to VHS for collecting. the VHS dub is virtually as good as taping 
>off TV in the first place.

That's interesting. You seem to say that for a bad source I should use SVHS
tape and for a good source a normal HG tape will do. That's the complete
opposite of what I thought originally. Interesting.                    

Should I record in EP with those HG tapes then? or everything in SP except for
SVHS tapes? By the way the source is laserdisc. What about Hifi tapes? Is it
worth getting those? Assume all recordings to be anime recordings. I hardly
ever record off the TV.

regarding drilling in non-SVHS tapes. How do you do it? and is there any
noticable benefits?

One more thing. There's a switch marked 'edit' on one end and 'SNC' on the
other end. The manual didn't give any indications on where to set it. It just
said 'try both settings and see which one is better'. I assume it's for tape
to tape editing. You happen to know what this is? In case you're very familiar
with VCRs, I have a JVC HR-SC1000 SVHS/SVHSC machine. 

>
>Hope all this helps!

Thanx it does.

Eiji

Xref: sparky rec.arts.anime:28793 news.answers:5173
From: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Subject: Re: UY 4 Lum the Forever - was A non-review of AnimEigo's URUSEI YATSURA 3: REMEMBER MY LOVE
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:28:54 GMT

In article <jkhassan-291292134317@richmac13.gatech.edu> jkhassan@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jamal Hassan - Gundamnit!) writes:
>  Speaking of UY 4, someone *PLEASE* tell me what this movie is suppose to
>be
>about.  At least I could figure out *some* things with the unsubbed UY 2
>Beautiful Dreamer(which by the way Animeigo's sub was wonderful). Buy UY 4
>has
>me totally confused...

It is my personal opinion that when AnimEigo comes out with the subbed
"Lum the Forever", the confusion factor will just go up...

Briefly:

  A storm wakes up the "spirit" of Tomobiki-cho and it discovers that
  something is wrong.  To make it right, it removes the most powerful
  alien influence it can find...Lum.  First her powers are taken away,
  then she herself, and it takes a running Ataru, a medium-sized war
  and Lum's own devotion to her Darling to bring her back.

  The above, of course, covers about 20 percent of the movie, and is
  a (weak) attempt to make some sense of it... :-)

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