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From: siglun@lotka.teorekol.lu.se (Sigfrid Lundberg)
Subject: New driver for gnuplot: pic/troff
Originator: siglun@lotka.teorekol.lu.se
Organization: University of Lund, Sweden
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 06:38:55 GMT


I have written a gnuplot driver for the pic graphics language. I have
tested it under gnuplot3.2 and is currently using it with the
reengineered troff, groff, which is distributed by Free Software
Foundation, but it should work for AT&T's DWB as well. As gpic can
produce TeX output, it could possibly be an alternative to the LaTeX
driver.

The output from pic can be pipe-lined into eqn, so it is possible to put
complex functions in a graph with the set label and set {x/y}label commands.
For instance,

set ylab '@space 0 int from 0 to x alpha ( t ) roman d t@'

Will lable the y-axis with a nice integral if formatted

gpic filename.pic | geqn -d@@ -Tps | groff -m[macro-package] -Tps > filename.ps

Figures made this way can be scaled to fit into a document. The pic
language is easy to understand, so the graphs can be edited by hand if
need be. All coordinates in the pic-file produced by gnuplot are given
as x+gnuplotx and y+gnuploty. In the header x and y are given the values
zero. If this line is removed with an editor in a number of files one can
put several graphs i one figure like this (default size is 5.0x3.0 inches)

.PS 8.0
x=0;y=3
copy "figa.pic"
x=5;y=3
copy "figb.pic"
x=0;y=0
copy "figc.pic"
x=5;y=0
copy "figd.pic"
.PE

This will produce an 8 inches wide figure with four graphs in two rows
on top of each other

When I get time to revise the driver I will use possibility to set the
value of x and y using a command like

set term pic 5.0,3.0

Scaling can already be done using set size.


I prefer to using encapsulated postscript this way of including graphs
in troff documents, because of the possiblity to preprocess with eqn,
and because pic is much easier to understan - at least for me.

I would like to share this piece of software with anyone, in the hope that it
will be useful for at least someone. But taking into account that it is
the very first version of the driver, I would be happy if I could get into
contact with people able to help me improve it.

Please send me a mail if you wish to test my pic driver for gnuplot.

Best wishes


Sigfrid
From: D.Love@daresbury.ac.uk (Dave Love)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.gnuplot
Subject: Re: GNUPLOT and the new LaTeX
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:18:50 GMT
Organization: SERC Daresbury Laboratory, Warrington, UK

The `rawfonts' style option in your LaTeX \documentstyle will probably
solve the problem.  It's available in the `psnfss' directory that is
with the nfss directory at most sites e.g., stuttgart, aston.  Consult
the comp.text.tex FAQ for other locations.
From: wdn@beach.cis.ufl.edu (William Dean Norris II)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.gnuplot
Subject: Re: column filter for use with gnuplot
Date: 27 Jan 93 03:32:13 GMT
Followup-To: comp.graphics.gnuplot
Organization: /cis/thunder0/wdn/.organization
In-reply-to: jss@stanley.nde.swri.edu's message of 20 Jan 93 17:06:21 GMT

>>>>> On 20 Jan 93 17:06:21 GMT, jss@stanley.nde.swri.edu (Jeff Stolte) said:
jss! Followup-To: comp.graphics.gnuplot
jss! NNTP-Posting-Host: stanley.nde.swri.edu

jss! I have heard about a filter program that can be used to select
jss! specified columns from an ascii data file and have its output
jss! piped to gnuplot.  I do not remember what the program is called
jss! or where it is available.  Does anyone know of such a program?

Try cut(1) or awk(1) if you are using a *ix system.

cut should work in all of the cases I can think of, it is what I use.
Usually I print out all four variables and then plot them 3 at a time.


cat file | cut -f1-3 -d" " > plot1
cat file | cut -f1,2,4 -d" " > plot2
cat file | cut -f1,3,4 -d" " > plot3
etc...

dean.

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Newsgroups: comp.graphics.gnuplot
From: koert@dutentb.et.tudelft.nl (Koert van der Lingen)
Subject: Re: column filter for use with gnuplot
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 07:41:01 GMT

In <1jk0qdINN611@swrinde.nde.swri.edu> jss@stanley.nde.swri.edu (Jeff Stolte) writes:

>I have heard about a filter program that can be used to select
>specified columns from an ascii data file and have its output
>piped to gnuplot.  I do not remember what the program is called
>or where it is available.  Does anyone know of such a program?

You don't need such a program if you want to plot specific columns. In
gnuplot (3.2 at least) you can write something like

plot "datafile" using 2:4

which in this case uses column 2 for the x-axis and column 4 for the
y-axis.


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From: davisre@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.gnuplot
Subject: Re: Surface hiding
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:32:09 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1993Jan27.173301.27961@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> mosessa@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Scott A Moses) writes:
>Does anyone know if gnuplot supports surface hiding?  That is, how
>do we hide regions on a surface plot which are obscured by another
>part of the surface?  

	set hidden3d			# Turns on surface hiding

	set nohidden3d			# Turns off surface hiding


Rob
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Newsgroups: comp.graphics.gnuplot
From: wacren@lri.fr (Laurent WACRENIER)
Subject: Re: multiple plots per page???
Organization: Laboratoire de Recherche en Informatique
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 12:06:45 GMT



In article <1993Jan20.155515.19505@csd.uch.gr>,
graphics@ianos.iesl.forth.gr (Graphics Team (PIT)) writes:
|> possible to have multiple plots per page...Is this really true??
|> Any ideas are welcome

Try
	 plot sin(x),cos(x)

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 13:31:29 MST
From: murray@akeila.mech.utah.edu (Joe Murray)
Subject: GnuPlot 3.2 help/info
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.gnuplot
Hello,

We are using GPlot 3.2 and would like to know if there is any way to move a postscript output of a plot to the center, or any other place, of the page.  We reduce our plots, typically to size 0.85, 0.85, and they end up offset to the left upper corner of the page.  Also, is there any way to import TeX like math expressions into our labels (axis or other)?  Is there any way to use symbols in the labels?

Thanks,


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Newsgroups: comp.graphics.gnuplot
From: d-lewart@uiuc.edu (Daniel S. Lewart)
Subject: Re: gunplot for OS/2?
Originator: lewart@rsm1.physics.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: d-lewart@uiuc.edu (Daniel S. Lewart)
Organization: UIUC Physics Department
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:45:00 GMT

In article <9301202114.AA05170@adm1> jogren@cmdl.erl.gov (John Ogren) writes:

> I've seen a lot of ports of "GNUware" to OS/2, but not gunplot. Do you
> know it it is available anywhere?

`gnuplot' is not part of the GNU project.

Daniel Lewart
d-lewart@uiuc.edu
From: wgilson@ll.mit.edu (William Gilson)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.gnuplot
Subject: PC (MS-DOS) binary
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:09:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: ll.1993Jan25.220950.12747
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Originator: wgilson@ll.mit.edu (William Gilson)


Is a gnuplot binary for MS-DOS (Windows, too?) available via FTP?  I have no PC
C compiler readily available.
From: fearick@physci.uct.ac.za (Roger Fearick)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.gnuplot
Subject: Re: gunplot for OS/2?
Date: 22 Jan 93 08:30:22 GMT
Organization: Physics Department, University of Cape Town

In article <C17732.Lvp@news.cso.uiuc.edu> d-lewart@uiuc.edu (Daniel S. Lewart) writes:

>In article <9301202114.AA05170@adm1> jogren@cmdl.erl.gov (John Ogren) writes:

>> I've seen a lot of ports of "GNUware" to OS/2, but not gunplot. Do you
>> know it it is available anywhere?

>`gnuplot' is not part of the GNU project.

Nevertheless, it has been ported to OS/2.
Binaries are available from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu

Roger.

 

Roger Fearick                 *  Internet: fearick@physci.uct.ac.za
Dept. of Physics              *
University of Cape Town       *
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.gnuplot
From: dd@clr48pl.clr48pl.edf.fr (Denis Descause)
Subject: Re: column filter for use with gnuplot
Followup-To: comp.graphics.gnuplot
Organization: EDF Departement Etudes et Recherches, Clamart, France.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:07:17 GMT


with Gnuplot 3.2 all you have to do is to read the manual page 8 (12.1 Datafile)
it is written:
	plot '< awk "{print $1-1965 $2}" population.dat' ....
see man awk for more information
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			1 av du General De Gaulle
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			Tel:(33 1) 47 65 30 85 , Fax: (33 1) 47 65 46 88
			Email: Denis.Descause@der.edr.fr
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.gnuplot,comp.text.tex,comp.windows.x.apps
From: d-lewart@uiuc.edu (Daniel S. Lewart)
Subject: Re: GNUPLOT ftp-site ?
Originator: lewart@rsm1.physics.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: d-lewart@uiuc.edu (Daniel S. Lewart)
Organization: UIUC Physics Department
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:38:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.124540> hebert@lusignan.inra.fr (Yannick Hebert) writes:

> I am looking for gnuplot for use on a SUN 4/60 server. Could I have
> informations on the ftp-sites it is available on ?

Below is an excerpt from the README file.  Subscribe to comp.graphics.gnuplot
for more info.

Enjoy,
Daniel Lewart
d-lewart@uiuc.edu
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     Anonymous ftp to dartmouth.edu (129.170.16.4)
     Fetch
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     in binary mode.

     Users without ftp capability can obtain it through a mail ftp
     server. Send a mail message saying 'help' to
     BITFTP@pucc.princeton.edu for instructions. For a uuencoded
     copy of the gnuplot sources (compressed tar file), send this
     message to BITFTP@pucc.princeton.edu:
         FTP DARTMOUTH.EDU UUENCODE
         USER ANONYMOUS
         CD pub/gnuplot
         BINARY
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         QUIT


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     Fetch pub/gnuplot3.2.tar.Z in binary mode.


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From: ph12hucg@sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de (Carsten Grammes)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.gnuplot
Subject: Re: PC (MS-DOS) binary
Date: 26 Jan 1993 23:22:25 GMT
Organization: Universitaet des Saarlandes,Rechenzentrum
NNTP-Posting-Host: sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de

wgilson@ll.mit.edu (William Gilson) writes:
> 
> Is a gnuplot binary for MS-DOS (Windows, too?) available via FTP?  I have no PC
> C compiler readily available.

Check for /pc/plot/gnup32.zip on garbo.uwasa.fi. A Windows version is also
floating around somewhere but I forgot the address.

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Newsgroups: comp.graphics.gnuplot
From: n8743196@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Jeff Wandling)
Subject: installing gnuplot question
Summary: term type x11 is missing
Keywords: x11 gnuplot set term x11
Organization: Howling Dog
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 20:13:20 GMT


system -- sparc 2, Sunos 4.1.2, OpenWindows 3.0

gnuplot -- v3.2

I did the install procedure as the README.Install shows.

(I actually did a "make x11")

When I invoke gnuplot and "set terminal" to see the terminal
options, x11 and X11 is missing from the list.  What could be
the problem?

Thanks in advance,

-- 
jeff wandling <jdw@huxley.wwu.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.gnuplot
From: hallvard@immhp1.marina.unit.no (Hallvard Paulsen)
Subject: More than one y-axis?
Reply-To: hallvard@immhp1.marina.unit.no (Hallvard Paulsen)
Organization: Division of Marine Engineering
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 07:34:36 GMT

	Is there any way to make gnuplot plot two (or more)
curves with very different y-ranges against different y-axis?

	Hallvard Paulsen

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From: gabor@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu
Subject: Gnuplot on Macintosh
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 11:02:11 CST
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Content-Length: 551
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.gnuplot
Does Gnuplot exist on Mac?
Does Gnuplot exist on IBM-PC?

Thanks,

Gabor Fichtinger, PhD
Scientific Visualization Group,         |campus: BRC.CMS.1-154, 78700 
Center for High Performance Computing   |email : gabor@chpc.utexas.edu
The University of Texas System          |Ph/1  : (512) 471 2409
Balcones Research Center, 1.154 CMS     |Ph/2  : 1-800-262-2472/2409
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:47:29 EST
From: naiman@mrj.com (Aaron Naiman)
Subject: label placement
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.gnuplot
Hi!  I would like to be able to place labels either inside the plot at
a corner, or totally outside of the plot.  But, if autoscaling is on,
I do not know where the corresponding plot coordinates are.  I thought
about "save"ing the plot to a file, and then scanning it back in to
find the [xy]ranges, but, these are *not* the limits of the plot when
autoscaling is on.  Is there any way that I have access to the plot's
limit values?  Or perhaps another way to print other information
around the plot?

Thanx!

Aaron

Aaron Naiman | MRJ, Inc.      | University of Maryland, Dept. of Mathematics
             | naiman@mrj.com | naiman@math.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.gnuplot
From: taylor@world.std.com (Russell R Leighton)
Subject: X Point and Click
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:35:24 GMT

	Has anyone built an X point and click interface for gnuplot?
	 It should be easy. I would hate to reinvent the wheel.

	Thanks.

	Russ
From: dave@telco-nac.com (David Cornejo)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
Subject: Re: 256 color faster than 16 color ...why?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 15:57:01 -0800
Organization: Telco Systems NAC, Fremont, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.telco-nac.com

In article <C1FvJp.Hw9@acsu.buffalo.edu> tef@acsu.buffalo.edu (Tom Frisinger) writes:
>Hello,
>	I've done some tests and found out that 256 is indeed much faster
>than 16 color at the same resolution.  Why is this?  I tested
>320x200x16 vs. 320x200x256, and 640x480x16 vs. 640x480x256, and
>800x600x16 vs. 800x600x256.  I figure that that covered all the
>memory ranges pretty well.  The 256 color out performed the 16 color
>by anywhere from 10%-40%!!!   The only possible explantion I can
>think of is that with 256 color they can to fast byte operations on
>memory vs. messing around with 4bits and shifting and all that.  Is
>this theory at all on the right track?
>Thanks for the help.
>
>					Tom Frisinger
>					tef@acsu.buffalo.edu

I believe this is right or at least on the right track...

In 16 color mode, the video memory is organized as 4 planes of 1 bit each,
requiring a lot of diddling of I/O ports & masks before you output the pixel.
Even when you write the pixel, you're not actually writing to the video
memory - the card has to jump through some hoops to write it to the memory
for you. In 256 color mode, I believe that you have direct (or at least
fast buffered) access to flat video memory. Michael Abrash (I hope that's
correct) covers this frequently in his column in Dr Dobbs, so you can check
back issues for a better explanation (I'm doing this from memory). I think
he has a book or a set of article reprints available too.



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From: aron@taos.ced.berkeley.edu (aron bonar)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
Subject: Re: POVRAY made easy
Date: 22 Jan 1993 20:12:17 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: taos.ced.berkeley.edu

In article <1993Jan22.172505.28949@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, lineber@lonestar.utsa.edu (Jerry M. Lineberry) writes:
|> 
|> Hello, I was wondering if there is an easy way to learn povray. I've read the
|> documents that come with POVRAY. I did a few very simple examples that the
|> document gives. Not much of a problem. But I would like a syntax checker or a
|> program that will assist me in writing my first images. I tried to run the
|> program called AEWIRE but, was unable to get it to work. I'm not sure why.
|> The other day I saw a post about a program called PV3D, and would like to know
|> what it does. What would be the best utility for me? I have a 386SX-20Mz (no
|> math co-processor) and 2Mb of RAM. My computer has no problem drawing the
|> sample images.
|> -- 

PV3D is a front end modeler for POVRAY.  Shareware, I believe.  I haven't seen it
on the net but you can get off a couple of BSS's...The Graphics Alternative or 
You Can Call Me Ray...sorry..don't have the numbers on me.
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
From: s127@brems.ii.uib.no (Torgeir Veimo)
Subject: Papers missing
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 17:38:54 GMT

I'm looking for the paper "Analysis of Radiosity Techniques in Computer Graphics" by 
Bernard Kwok (Masters thesis) since the printout i've got is lost and it is 
incomplete by some pages.

Could someone give me the references where to find these? Also, now that i've got
access to an Iris, where's the program located? (ftp sites?)

Thanx!

-- 
Torgeir Veimo

Studying at the University of Bergen

"...I'm gona wave my freak flag high!" (Jimi Hendrix)

"...and it would be okay on any other day!" (The Police)
Organization: Ege University - Computing Center
Date: Friday, 22 Jan 1993 16:12:40 TUR
From: <OBL9044@TREARN.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
Subject: Re: Texas Instruments 3D




qquit
Newsgroups: comp.graphics,comp.windows.x.pex,comp.graphics.opengl
From: ledwards@leland.Stanford.EDU (Laurence James Edwards)
Subject: Re: Row major or column major matrices?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 01:34:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.124249.3817@eye.com>, erich@eye.com (Eric Haines) writes:
|> I feel vaguely like I'm in a twilight zone episode.  You know, like the ones
|> where some guy wakes up and finds that all the lettering is backwards and
|> everyone is left-handed.
|> 
|> Someone was telling me that OpenGL allows only post-concatenation of matrices
|> [...]
|> Me, I learned on my pappy's knee (well, actually, through Newman & Sproull) to
|> use row major matrices.  Up until today using column major matrices never
|> crossed my mind.  Anywell, ideas like "we only post-concatenate column major
|> matrices" translates into "we only pre-concatenate row major matrices".
|> Lovely, a new way to confuse computer graphics people (as if left vs.
|> right-handed coordinate systems weren't bad enough).  This is not a slam of
|> OpenGL - Phigs uses column major matrices, too!
|> [...]

It's even more surprising since the current version of GL normally
pre-concatenates. I can imagine some hard to find bugs when people port old GL
code in which they generate their own matrices from scratch. I'm not too upset
though, cause column vectors and post-concatenation is what I learned as an
engineer, and so it seems more natural to me. Note, that pre-concatenation
with column vectors or post-concatenation with row vectors is useful. In this
one instance I prefer PHIGS, which has a direct mechanism for doing both pre- &
post-concatenation of matrices ... you can post-concatenate in GL but only
indirectly and inefficiently.

According to the GL manual, GL uses row vectors and pre-multiplication for
purely historical reasons related to the efficiency of early hardware.

Larry Edwards
From: bstevens@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Bob Stevens)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
Subject: Find Edges Filter
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:59:41 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu

'm trying to find a reference to the type of edge detection that is used in
Photoshop's Find Edges filter.  It's much better than a convolve based edge
detection and doesn't look like a contour trace.  Any code or references?

Bob
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
From: millar@sander.lockheed.com (Jeffrey R. Millar)
Subject: Still frame to movie conversion
Organization: Avionics Division, Lockheed Sanders, Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 22:07:09 GMT

I am looking for software that will take a series of still frames (such as 
TIF files) and convert them to a movie playback format such as DL or MPEG.

Suggestions are welcome...thanks

Jeff Millar, Lockheed Sanders, 603-885-7047
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Newsgroups: comp.graphics,ont.events
From: mccool@dgp.toronto.edu (Michael McCool)
Subject: Re: Toronto Siggraph: Jan 19, 7pm EVENT
Distribution: ont
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:50:13 GMT

fche@db.toronto.edu ("Frank Ch. Eigler") writes:

>mccool@dgp.toronto.edu (Michael McCool) writes:

>>Toronto Siggraph Event
>>======================
>> [...]
>>Date: Tuesday Jan 19, 1993
>>Time: 7:00 pm 
>>Place: The McLaughlin Planetarium, Basement Lecture Theatre


>Sorry for the silly question, but is there a limited invitation
>for this event or is everyone welcome?
>-- 

>-- Frank Ch. Eigler -- Comp Eng -- <eigler@ecf.toronto.edu> -- (I'm Brian!)

Everyone is welcome to this event, although we do encourage memberships, which
are $36/an for working members and $12/an for student types.  You don't
have to be an ACM Siggraph member; Toronto Siggraph membership is entirely
separate.

Meeting are held the third Tuesday of every month, now at 7:00pm.  It looks
like we may be moving out of the Planetarium in the near future, and will
probably be holding most of our meetings at the university or at the
McLuhan Centre.  Meetings typically last 1h30-2h, after which some go to
a nearby establishment to imbibe sophisticated adult refreshments.

Michael McCool
mccool@dgp.utoronto.ca