From: v368ucgd@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (TOM STEEGMANN)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: 300zx better than the L88? NOT!
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:42:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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In article <1992Jul29.195506.27457@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>, smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith) writes...
>In article <1992Jul29.183455.304@wam.umd.edu>, fitchitt@wam.umd.edu () writes:
>|> In article <Bs0FIs.1Fs@acsu.buffalo.edu> v368ucgd@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (TOM STEEGMANN) writes:
>|> >
>|> >	In reply to the poster who didnt seem to think that a L88
>|> >vette couldnt "survive" over 100mph, the top speed for this model
>|> >was, in fact, 147 mph. This was done with bias ply tires. Try that in 
>|> >your 300zx. Also, I dont need a lecture on brake cooling. The aluminum
>|> >calipered L88 did just fine. It stopped from 80mph in 218 feet. The 
>|> >300zx turbo takes *gasp* 231 feet! So much for your new technology
>|> >argument. In fact, despite what you think, there has been very little
>|> >new technology in any car for the past 30 or 40 years.
>|> 
>You know, I'm a big fan of the old 'vettes, but this argument is ludicrous.
>Very little new technology?! You obviously havent done anything under the
>hood recently! Computerized electronic engine management, anti-lock brakes,
>traction control...the list goes on and on.  As for your braking statistics...
>I would seriously like to know your source, because they sound awfully 
>suspicious.
> 
>I won't even begin to talk about cornering...the older cars don't even
>compare in that category.
> 

	My sources are Road and Track, feb 1991 for the 300's distance,
and I got the vette information from a Chevy power up book that sells
aftermarket parts. As far as technology goes, none of the things
that you listed help a car go faster, which is what we were talking about.
Anti Lock brakes do not make a car stop faster, they only keep you from 
skidding. If you are such a bad driver that you cant modulate your brakes
without computer assistance, maybe you should avoid performance autos.
	Why wont you talk about cornering? Ever been in an old Lotus Elan?
How about an early 240Z? Obviously you havent. Many old cars could corner
quite nicely. If you put modern tires on any old car, it helps alot. Also,
you can buy polyurethene bushings for the suspensions of most old muscle
cars that drastically improve handleing. I have a friend who has a 71
Buick Skylark with the aforementioned modifications that could beat the
piss out of many newer "sports" cars. It will go 0-100-0 in 16 seconds.
Try that in your new, technologically superior, car. 
	Apparently you are the one who has not spent much time under
the hood. Just changing the oil on your Camry does not make you an
expert.

Tom


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