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Subject: Re: Cadence Poll
From: hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu (William Hsu)
Date: 23 Dec 92 13:14:25 PST
Reply-To: hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu
Distribution: world

Glenn Lea:
> Here are the readers' poll results from the Jan 92 Cadence.

ARGH. And I have to wait another week for my copy??? :-)

> M.R. Abrams	 Blu*3

I almost voted for this, but it's dated '91. Oh well, it didn't need my
help...

> Guy/Phillips	 Arcus
> W. Breuker	 Heibel
> D. Byron	 Tuskegee
..
> Evan Parker	 Process & Reality

Wow, I'm quite amazed that all these guys made the list. The Don Byron
is quite expected, but Guy/Phillips? Evan Parker? I suspect Breuker
won a lot of new fans after his US tour (and there's another one next
year!) I really enjoyed Heibel, but didn't think it was enough of an
advance on earlier material to deserve my vote.

Bill

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From: maysee@ss1.af.mil (Eric E. Mays)
Subject: Re: COLTRANE SUGGESTIONS...
Reply-To: maysee@ss2.sews.wpafb.af.mil
Organization: U.S. Air Force
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 14:45:27 GMT

In article <1hs7o4INNan9@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, by785@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robin Gibson) writes:
|> 
|> Greetings!  I am interested in adding some Coltrane to my collection but
|> I have no idea as to where to start.  Please email me any suggestions
|> you may have!  Many thanks!
|> 
|> Robin
|> -- 
|> Robin L. Gibson      gibson@email.ncsc.navy.mil
|> Coastal Systems Station
|> Panama City, FL  32407-5000

   I would recommend "My Favorite Things" and "Giant Steps".  There is a
3 cd set out on GRP.  I think it is called "Retrospective", but I would
recommend the two CD's above first.

Eric
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Subject: Re: Recent listening (mini-reviews)
From: hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu (William Hsu)
Date: 22 Dec 92 12:52:12 PST
Reply-To: hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu
Distribution: world

Joe Hellerstein, recent transplant to Wisconsin, but visiting in the
Bay area in Jan:
> any reactions to Berne's PACE YOURSELF?

Awesome. I really enjoyed Certified (tho it didn't make my Cadence
poll list), but Pace Yourself is everything you expect from a mature
Tim Berne. Wicked skewed grooves. Tightly organized multisection
compositions. Kickass playing. Highly recommended.

In fact, I looked over my Tim Berne collection, and I don't think
he made a record that I didn't like enough to keep. (And I'm pretty
picky about what I keep.)

> Roscoe Mitchell -- SONGS IN THE WIND
> 	I dunno, this didn't get me at all. 

Me neither.

> Features local
> Madison/Milwaukee drummer Vincent Davis, who I recently got a chance
> to play with.  He's a terrific drummer; keep your eyes open for him.

I really haven't been impressed with Davis after seeing him live and
hearing him on record, but I'll take your word for it. Or maybe it's
because I like Tani Tabbal (Roscoe Mitchell's other regular drummer)
so much, Davis just pales in comparison.

> Well, mostly gripes I guess.  Sorry about that.  

Sounds like you haven't been looking hard enough at B-Side, Joe. There's
always Cadence too, of course. :-)

Bill
From: bweiner@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Benjamin Weiner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Those Cadence CD sleeves
Date: 22 Dec 92 02:05:57 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Bill Hsu writes:
>While we're on the topic of alternative CD box designs (not that it's
>going to do any of us any good in the near future) ...

I doubt we'll see any new CD box designs; I think that one of the reasons
CDs became so explosively popular (despite the price-gouging) was their 
"it lasts forever" appeal, and a major component of that is those neat
little supposedly invulnerable jewel boxes (just think about the phrase
"jewel box"!).  And, I think, it's tied up with the technological and 
*sanitary* connotations - CDs come in little "cleanliness packages."
Yuppies ate this up.
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From: crispops@world.std.com (Dale A Smoak)
Subject: Re: Solo Cecil (was Re: akisakila, by c.t.)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:20:06 GMT

lc@apolo.fct.unl.pt (Luis Correia (El Grande)) writes:

>Sometime ago I bought his In Fluorenscence. The problem is that it is so... strange
>that I even find it difficult to think of it as music. As a consequence I didn't

>work, meaning are his reccords all like that, and if not what would you consider to
>be interesting ?

This isn't solo Cecil, of course; it's a trio.  I take it you're not
asking simply for solo recommendations?

Cecil is not well-served by playing such short pieces, in my opinion. 
It's contrary to the way he's tended to play.

More and more, though, he is incorporating his poetry into his
performances.  Whether you like it or not, the format of playing short
pieces will cause the poetry to stand out in stark relief.

My subjective impression of the music is that it's, well, off somehow,
compared to Taylor's other recordings.

If you're looking for one Cecil album, or a next Cecil album, I'd say get
*The Eighth* on Hat Art.  It's a quartet with Jimmy Lyons, alto saxophone;
William Parker, bass; and Rashid Bakr, drums.  It's a group, but a small
group:  an uncluttered setting and a clear recorded sound make it a good
album to check out.

Hope this helps,

Dale
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From: bagg@ellis.uchicago.edu (matthew john baggott)
Subject: Re: Sun Ra coming?
Reply-To: bagg@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 22:18:48 GMT

In article <1h9ubmINN3nk@specialist.genrad.com> gwl@specialist.genrad.com (Glenn W. Lea) writes:

>Someone just told me that he heard that Sun Ra was coming to the Iron
>Horse in Northampton (western Mass) on Dec 28.  

A friend just went to a show in NYC which she thought was going to be Sun Ra.
It turned out that it was the Arkestra w/o him.  She gave me the impression
that it was unlikely that Sun Ra would recover his health enough to do any
more shows.  I hope that she was being overly pessimistic.

>Glenn

    --M@
From: bowman@reed.edu (BoBolicious)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: COLTRANE SUGGESTIONS...
Date: 3 Jan 93 09:38:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1993Jan3.093811.10654
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1hujflINNls3@nestroy.wu-wien.ac.at> lell@dec2.wu-wien.ac.at (Christoph Lell ) writes:
>I'd recommend GRP/Impulse  "Live in Japan" a 4 CD collection. :-)
>In all seriousness though, this is great stuff, but has anybody listened
>to more than one disc in a row?

Nah, I usually have to listen to "Interstellar Space" between disks 3 & 4. ;-)
Pharoah *does* grow on you.  I usually either listen to just the Favorite
Things, or all 4 disks in a row.

cheers,
bobo              In seeking the unattainable,
bowman@reed.edu            simplicity only gets in the way.
Eternal nothingness is fine if you happen to be dressed for it. - Woody
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: jvs@netcom.com (Jonathan Stockley)
Subject: 'Real Book' Jazz music
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 00:51:21 GMT


A friend recently introduced me to a book of hand written Jazz music
transcriptions. He was given it as a gift some ten or so years ago.
Neither of us has any idea where this came from and where I could get
my own copy (short of xeroxing his).
Then, a couple of weeks ago at a pre-Chirstmas bash, we met someone else
who had a copy, looked more recent, but again she didn't know where to get it.

So my question is this: What is the history of this music book and where
can I get hold of it?

Replies by email please and I'll post a summary.
Thanks.
Jo
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From: smehta@kwela.nynexst.com (Sandeep Mehta)
Subject: Monk "book"
Reply-To: smehta@nynexst.com
Organization: Speech Technology, AI Lab, NYNEX S&T Inc, White Plains, NY
Date: 31 Dec 92 14:33:45


In John Swenson's liners to Steve Lacy's RAPS (Adelphi) it says that
at one time Lacy and his group were playing the *entire* Monk "book"
of 53 compositions and nothing else.
 
I've always wondered how many compositions Monk wrote. Somehow, 53
seems like a small number compared to, say, Herbie Nichols whose
career was significantly shorter. Does anyone have a definitive
answer to this??
 
I found some of Swenson's comments to be inaccurate, e.g., one of
Coltrane's main inspirations to take up soprano was Lacy. In fact,
and I refer you to Simpkins' bio again, the story goes that Coltrane
almost stumbled upon the soprano. Apparently, they were returning to
NYC from a gig and made a pit stop where one of the (unnamed) sidemen
got left behind by mistake. Coltrane took his case for safekeeping
but then decided to open it and found a soprano sax inside which he
started fooling around with. The rest, I guess, is history :-)
 
/sandeep
--
smehta@nynexst.com
--
        "This space of time is organized. We need not fear these
	 silences, -- we may love them." -- John Cage, Silences, 1961.
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote,alt.config,misc.misc
From: mikel@networx.com (Mike Lempriere)
Subject: Re: CFD: Enough Interest Out There To Form a 1920's-30's Jazz/Dance/Big Band Newsgroup?
Organization: NetWorx
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 00:44:07 GMT

Jon Noring (noring@netcom.com) wrote:
: The title says it all.  I'm seriously considering creating an alt.*
: newsgroup whose purpose is to discuss all aspects of 1920's and 30's jazz,
[stuff deleted]
: What should we name it should there be enough interest?  Some ideas:
[more stuff and lengthy .sig deleted]

How 'bout calling it "alt.music.bluenote"?  Sorta the rebel version...

More seriously, I agree with you that rec.music.bluenote has a
ridiculously high throughput -- too much to keep up with reasonably.

I feel just as you do that my fave interest is lost in the masses --
I love the blues, but it doesn't get much discussion as it's just
swamped out.  How about a blues group?

The problem is, that I would subscribe to such a group IN ADDITION to
rec.music.bluenote.

Instead of just reading rec.music.bluenote, I'd also be reading
alt.music.blues and alt.music.bluenote -- MORE stuff.  It would only
worsen the problem.

Feel free to make the early group -- I will subscribe to it.
Perhaps it will catch on, and perhaps it will become a rec. group
as it matures.
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From: kogrady2@mach1.wlu.ca (kathleen o'grady 9207 G)
Subject: Re: Danny Gatton: album info wanted
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 14:05:31 GMT

I found New York Stories in the various artists section as it is
tecnically not a Danny Gatton Album but a collective.  Sorry its 
at work so I havent got the #.  By the way, why is AlDiMeola not
in the Penguin book save for a brief mention under Return to Forever?


Mark L.
From: venkat@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (mu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Blues: Albert King
Date: 31 Dec 92 19:17:54 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

jsulliva@amstel.prime.com (Jeff Sullivan) writes:

>In the article, they described his sound and his playing
>technique. I was surprized to see that he played left-handed, but even
>more surprized to read that the guitar was not restrung!
>I know that other famous left-handers (Jimi Hendrix, most notably) have
>played right-handed guitars, but they appear to be restrung.
>Is anyone else (lefty or righty) using this technique?

True.  Elizabeth Cotten(sp?) played guitar left-handed without 
restringing it.  Coco Montoya(sp?) who plays with John Mayall, 
also does the same I think.

murari venkataraman
venkat@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (R. Lynn Rardin)
Subject: Re: Recent listening (mini-reviews)
Reply-To: rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:43:05 GMT

In article <HELLERS.92Dec22012641@cleo.cs.wisc.edu>, hellers@cs.wisc.edu (Joe Hellerstein) writes:
>
>Just some random reactions to things I've bought or heard recently.
>Apologies in advance for flip judgements...
>
>Duke Ellington -- HAPPY BIRTHDAY DUKE!  THE BIRTHDAY SESSIONS.
>	This is that LaserLight 5 CD $25 set that people were
>discussing recently.  The sound quality is good, considering the era
>and that it's live; a little mix-down to cut the highs would have been
>nice, but hey, for $5 a disk I'm not going to complain too much.  It's
>interesting to hear the band in a dance setting.  I don't think this
>ranks as a classic set of recordings, but it's fun and there are
>fairly regular flashes of beauty.  Every Paul Gonsalves solo is a gem.
>The trumpet playing was kind of disappointing to me, a lot of Cat
>Anderson grandstanding, and Ray Nance playing comfortably in his bag.
>Biggest gripe -- nowhere on the box or in the notes do they say what
>years these recordings are from!!  If they didn't know, an educated
>guess would have been helpful!
>
>Joe Hellerstein

Joe,

From discussions with several people, I believe these recordings were made in 
1953 and 1954.  I agree with you that it's very frustrating to have to track 
down information like this when they could have easily consulted a couple of 
experts and made an educated guess themselves...

-Lynn  (rardin@auriga.rose.brandeis.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Cadence Poll
From: hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu (William Hsu)
Date: 23 Dec 92 13:08:00 PST
Reply-To: hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu
Distribution: world

John Thomas:
> > Guy/Phillips	 Arcus
> 
> Ditto.  Thanks for the recommendation, Bill!

You're welcome. I'm glad they sold more CDs because I was loud and
obnoxious enough :-)

> What? No Braxton at Willisau?! Maybe it's the price of the set
> putting off a lot of readers.

It is. It's reasonably priced for the amount of music you get, but
look, I already have many, many hours of Braxton, and I have other
obsessions as well. 

> What about the NAKED LUNCH soundtrack???

I'm surprised this didn't make it. It's been showing up in all kinds
of unexpected places. I just heard it in a play a week ago...

> I recently picked up the trio CD WHEN SILENCE PULLS by Plimley,
> Ellis, and Cyrille on the Music and Arts label and it is very 
> good piano trio music.  I believe it came out in '92. 

I liked this, and listened to it before sending in my votes for a
final cut. I thought parts of it meandered a bit, but it's still
a very nice record. (I didn't vote for it, but I made some very 
painful cuts to get to my final list.)

> Plimley (p) and Ellis (b) are involved in the new music scene in Canada.

Actually Ellis has moved to the Bay area (I think his girlfriend is going
to school in the area). He plays with Glenn Spearman's groups a lot, and
was involved in all the Raphe Malik/Spearman concerts in November.

Bill
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From: alan@sierra.unr.edu (Alan McKay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote,alt.config,misc.misc
Subject: Re: CFD: Enough Interest Out There To Form a 1920's-30's Jazz/Dance/Big Band Newsgroup?
Date: 22 Dec 92 17:40:59 GMT
Reply-To: alan@wrc.unr.edu (Alan McKay)
Followup-To: rec.music.bluenote
Organization: Desert Research Institute, University of Nevada


In article <BzMp7M.FHx@unix.amherst.edu> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:

>"......,I don't see why rec.music.bluenote.early would be
>unworkable.  That assumes that discussions of Big Band and other early
>jazz forms really *are* crowded out on rec.music.bluenote, which
>another poster has taken issue with.


I,too,take issue with that assumption. This morning, when logging in, I had a 
whopping total of 6 new, unread articles in r.m.bn. Assuming our newserver is 
functioning properly (not always a safe assumption :-)), it's hard for me to 
imagine how ~any~ type of jazz/blues-related thread could be "crowded out".

One reason folks who favor some type of split always fail, is that they
are unable to show that the total ~volume~ of posts to r.m.bn warrants
~any~ type of fractionation. i.e., there is room for ~everyone~!

If there's a group of folks anxious to talk about "Big Band and other early 
jazz forms", let's see posts about the ~music~, not hand wringing about splitting
the group. 


.....al 
w.a. mckay
desert research institute
reno, nevada
From: smg+@cs.cmu.edu (Stephen Guattery)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Jimmy Rowles
Date: 28 Dec 92 20:37:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.BzzL9w.J7y.2
Distribution: na
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

Any recommendations on recordings that feature Jimmy Rowles?  The only thing
of his I've heard is the version of "The Peacocks" that's on the Smithsonian
"Jazz Piano" collection, and I'd like to hear some of his other work.  I
haven't found anything else under his name in the local libraries or used
record stores, so any information on sessions he's done with other people
would be appreciated.  Thanks,

					Steve Guattery
					smg@cs.cmu.edu
From: seale@bcserv.wustl.edu (Seale (Jeff))
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Concert:Anson Funderburgh HELP
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:33:09 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcserv.wustl.edu

Anson Funderburgh & the Rockets are playing in St. Louis at
Off Broadway on Jan. 21st. I have only heard one of their songs
(which I like) and was wondering if anyone out there had seen them
and could recommend the show. Also, Johnny Winter is coming the week
before, is his show worth catching lately?
Thanks,
 Jeff      Email jeff@grserv.wustl.edu


Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: dcovell@hfglobe.intel.com (David Covell)
Subject: "Jazzy" blues followup
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 15:42:05 GMT


In response to my query about guitar-driven blues with a jazz flavor, many
of you recommended Robben Ford; I bought his "Talk to your Daughter" last
week, and while it's a step in the right direction it's not what I'm looking
for. 
He has great tone and taste, but the closest he approaches to a jazz feel
is on "Ain't Got Nothin' but the Blues", at least on this album.
This is a good album, and it's refreshing to hear someone play blues with
such a nice tone and unconventional licks, but it's lacks the jazz flavor
I'm looking for.
Any other recommendations?
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: wildman@athena.mit.edu (Timothy Worsley)
Subject: Re: Penguin Guide
Reply-To: eprice@sybase.com
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 04:13:48 GMT

ghfick@acs.ucalgary.ca (Gordon H. Fick) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.190224.5987@HQ.Ileaf.COM> anton@HQ.Ileaf.COM (steve norton) writes:
>>Gordon H. Fick writes:
>>> I would be interested in any independent reviews of these last
>>> six discs. Are they REALLY desert island material?
>>
>>that's an odd question.  are you looking for facts here?  whether
>>these are "REALLY desert island" discs depends completely upon who you
>>are, no?
>
>Cook and Morton's book contains 38 five star/desert island discs and one
>qualified five star ****(*) disc. In their introduction, they say
>"If we were able to recommend only a handful of discs, either to
>the committed follower or to someone wanting to hear only the
>very best of the music, it would be these five star records".

Sounds reasonable to me.

I'm a more or less rabid Zorn follower and I think their selection of
"The Big Gundown" (Zorn does the music of Ennio Morricone) is a little
off.  I'd pick "Spillane" over that one.  It has a great range of
style, all integrated wonderfully, which is one of the most admirable
features of Zorn's work as a composer.  The formal structure of all
three tracks varies but they are all related.  And it's a great album!
That would be a good "desert island disc" for Zorn I think.

I think "Leng Tch'e" is a good New Year's Eve disc, by the way.  :)

-Ed (not Tim), eprice@sybase.com (not wildman@...)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gideon Avrahami)
Subject: Comments etc.
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:06:30 GMT

hellers@cs.wisc.edu (Joe Hellerstein) writes:
>David Murray 4tet "Live at Ocean Club" Col.1&2 w/ L. Bowie (!!) India
>Navigation 1032

Yes, this one's excellent.  Tracks include Bechet's Bounce and Santa
Barbara And Crenshaw Follies.  (I think this is the one that got
shortened from the 2LP version).

And now that you know that *I* like it, let the buyer beware.

So, while I'm here, my own version of the Gift Suggestions For The
Holidays:


Sun Ra : VISITS PLANET EARTH & INTERSTELLAR LOW WAYS.
	It's a re-release on Evidence, from 1957, and it's MAHVELOUS!
	Finally, Sun Ra the way I heard him live, only better.  The
	arrangements still sound fresh and original, the compositions
	beautiful, the rhythms bubbling.  Next step is to buy the whole
	set, I suppose...

Salif Keyta : AMEN
	A wonderful, wonderful album by the singer from Mali.  It's
	pop, of course, but with a powerful touch of Islamic spirituality
	or something, I don't know.  The human voices, the voices...

Don Pullen & The Brazilian-African Connection : KELE MOU BANA
	Pullen's piano has a way of always evoking some combination of
	agony and ecstasy, and here it works extremely well with some
	vocals, some percussion, and lots of Carlos Ward's alto.

Bobby Bradford and the Mo'tet : LOST IN L.A.
	Hey, why didn't I know about this before?  I found it in a used
	CD place, started to listen, and WOW!  It's a no-piano, two-bass,
	post-Ornette affair.

Ivo Perelman : CHILDREN OF IBEJI
	Albert Ayler is alive and well and was reincarnated as a
	bespectacled Brazilian.  And then he plays Suzanne Vega's
	Tom's Diner in a duet with an electric barimbau... Say WHAT?!
	Oh yes.

Don Cherry : MULTIKULTI
	Gone out of print, so buy it for your loved ones as a collector's
	item.  What can I say, I still love everything from The Donald,
	even the quirky stuff.  And this one has some tracks by the
	Cherry/Ed Blackwell/Carlos Ward/Bob Stewart band.

Steve Lacy : THE DOOR
	... and Irene doesn't even sing on this one!  But she plays
	a mean violin on a mystic, brooding version of Ellington's
	Virgin Jungle.

Abbey Lincoln : STRAIGHT AHEAD
	Just listen to "When Malindy Sings".  What more do you need?


So that's it, one for every candle of Hanukah (Chanukkah?).


--Gidi
From: bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: records (vinyl) for sale
Date: 31 Dec 1992 14:45:14 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: pismo.sw.stratus.com


Blues---------------------
Fleetwood Mac   Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac (Original US)  VG+/VG+         $10
Fleetwood Mac   Black Magic Woman (2lp reissue of 1st 2 albums) NM/NM      $12

Jazz----------------------
Roy Brooks      The Free Slave  NM/NM                                      $5
Earl Hines      Fatha   Tops 1599 Original US 1958 Issue   VG+/VG+         $15
John Lewis      A Milanese Story-Soundtrk (original Black Atlantic) NM/NM  $20
George Shearing The Shearing Touch  Original US NM/NM                      $5

Ratings are cover/vinyl.


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