HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kary@col.hp.com (Dan Kary)
Subject: Re: Dolphins vs. Raiders
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 05:51:53 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

bohy6489@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> I have little or nothing to back this up, and maybe someone can help me.  I
> seem to remember once when Miami played the Raiders (then Oakland) on Monday
> night a few years ago that Frank Gifford said the Raiders were the only team
> in the NFL with a winning record against the Dolphins (overall, that is).
> 
> Anyone know if this is true or false?
> 

Partly true.  From the Miami Dolphins 1992 Media Guide, the W column is Miami
wins (includes post-season games):

Opponent      W   L   T
------------------------
Raiders       4  16   1
Houston      10  12
Kansas City   8  10
San Diego     6  10

Looks like the Dolphins have trouble with the AFC West, for completeness:

Denver        5   2
Seattle       5   2  (includes this years win)

In the AFC East:

Propellers   27  25  1 
Jills        36  17  1  (includes last weeks win)
Patsies      31  21
Clots        32  13

Miami owns these guys:

Green Bay     7   0
Phoenix       8   0

And nearly owns these guys:

Atlanta       4   1  (soon to be 5-1 :-)
Chicago       5   1
Rams          5   1  (includes this years win)
Minnesota     5   1
New Orleans   4   1
Tampa Bay     4   1

NFC          62  18
AFL/NFL     252 158

Dan Kary
From: boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:33:19 GMT
Subject: Re: Is this the first raiders team to go 0-4?
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

>And who the hell is Turner?

Odessa Turner - a WR that used to play for the Giants.

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From: douthit@convex.com (Ronnie Douthit)
Subject: Re: EAGLES BEAT THE COWPUSSIES AND THATS ALL TO SAY..EXCEPT PREDICTIONS
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 20:12:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

We will see you in Texas in a couple weeks.

>                                EAGLES 27
>                                K.C.   10


K.C. just beat your beloved Eagles.  So much for your ranting predictions
and your 16-0 season.  We will beat you in Texas just like last year.


>EAGLES WILL FINISH THE SEASON 16-0 AND WILL WIN THE SUPER BOWL
>signed julius the master predictor

NOT !
'nuff said.

				-Ron

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From: klbartle@david.wheaton.edu (Kevin Bartlett)
Subject: How the Bears keep their fans
Summary: Networks exclude other games from being shown during Bares
Keywords: Chicago, Sucks
Organization: Wheaton College, IL
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 06:07:01 GMT

I just recently heard that during a Bears game, other Chicago-area networks
are forbidden to show any other game.  What a stupid concept!  This Sunday, I
was looking forward to watching the 'Fins crush the Chips (:-), when some
ridiculous totally non-football-related program comes on.  As an explanation,
a friend of mine said that there is a contractual agreement that on a given
day, the Bears are the only ones to receive coverage at any given time.  Now
the late games showed on both NBC and CBS, but not the early games.  What's
the point?  Is this the only way Chicago can keep their fans -- by not letting
them watch anyone else play?  I can't believe that NBC got a fraction of the
ratings that they would have gotten had they broadcast the Miami-Buffalo game.
 I understand that this is a regional thing, and that none of you have this
problem, but it's still extremely frustrating.  

					. . . the Mantis

Cunningham for president.
From: david@cats.ucsc.edu (David Wright)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Will SF win the division?
Date: 7 Oct 92 23:12:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


In article <1992Oct7.093540.19348@morrow.stanford.edu> GC.SUL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sullivan) writes:
|In article <1ateggINNser@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>,
|david@cats.ucsc.edu (David Wright) writes:
|>
|>Will SF win the divison?
|>
|>Here is the SF schedule:
|>
|>        SF @ NYG     SF
|>        Buf @ SF     BUF
|>        SF @ NYJ     SF
|>        SF @ NO      SF
|>         Rams @ SF    SF
|>        SF @ NE      W
|>        Atl @ SF     W
|>        Rams, SF     W
|>        SF @ Phx     W
|>        SF @ Atl     L
|>        NO @ SF      L
|>        SF @ Rams    W
|>        Phil @ SF    L
|>        Mia @ SF     ?
|>        SF @ Minn    W
|>        TB @ SF      W
|>        Det @ SF     W
|>
|I think that the Niners will win all the rest of their games..
...  Other than that, any team in the league
|CAN beat them, few will.

I am not sure how you can have that much confidence in the 49ers after
they nearly lost to the Rams, as well as nearly loosing to the Saints.
And, I believe that have one of the worst offrenses of the NFL.
-- 
   |^^^^^^|      _______________________________________________________
   |      |      |"There is nothing in the marginal conditions that    | 
   |      |      | distinguish a mountain from a mole hill"            |
   | (o)(o)      O         Kenneth Boulding                            | 
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   /     \                              All comments  are mine---(David Wright) 
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From: emilio@crchh444.BNR.CA (Emilio Rivera)
Subject: Re: Some observations
Reply-To: emilio@crchh444.BNR.CA (Emilio Rivera)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1992 17:49:16 GMT

In article <92282.104944RZANDBER@ESOC.BITNET>, RENE ZANDBERGEN
<RZANDBER@ESOC.BITNET> writes:
  (stuff deleted)

|>Now some questions from a foreigner.

|>2) Who is this player called K-mart and why is he called that?

     I can help with this one.  K-Mart is Kelvin Martin of the Dallas
    Cowboys.  He plays the third receiver in a 3-WR package.  He
    also returns punts and kickoffs.   He was given the name of K-Mart
    by his teammates when he joined the Cowboys because he is
   'special'.  Get it ?  K-Mart special is what a national store chain
    uses to promote sales.   Maybe Mr. Power can back me up on this
    one.


|>
|>Thanks in advance for any info,
|>Rene Zandbergen (RZANDBER @ ESOC.BITNET)   RCZ in the pool
                                               
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From: roitman@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Richard K. Roitman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: EAGLES BEAT THE COWPUSSIES AND THATS ALL TO SAY..EXCEPT PREDICTIONS
Date: 13 Oct 92 10:18:32 GMT
Reply-To: roitman@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Richard K. Roitman)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.sport.football.pro, aperkins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Aaron B. Perkins) writes:
>SO HERE ARE THIS WEEKS PREDICTIONS OF THE K.C. GAME.......
>                                EAGLES 27
>                                K.C.   10
>EAGLES WILL FINISH THE SEASON 16-0 AND WILL WIN THE SUPER BOWL

    Well, Julius, Mr. _Master Predictor_, I guess you need to at least
remove the "Master".

	      CHIEFS 24
	      Eagles 17

    Marty Schottenheimer is 9-1 since he came to the Chiefs against
NFC opponents.

    On to Dallas.

Rick Roitman                 Carderock Division
roitman@oasys.dt.navy.mil    Naval Surface Warfare Center
From: tomscud@ruf.rice.edu (Thomas Reid Scudder)
Subject: Re: OFF THE CUFF
Organization: Rice University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:33:47 GMT

In article <BvrzuM.FA8@acsu.buffalo.edu> v073pzuy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Mr. Tinkertrain) writes:
>Well, in  keeping with the name of this program, I am off to the races on a
>whim, writing--of course--"off the cuff"...
>
>--The Eagles' biggest challenge so far will come against the Chiefs in 
>Arrowhead this Sunday (easily the best game of the week).  The Cowboys' DE had
>more problems with Walker than the Chiefs' big boys will have.  Someone try to
>tell me Charles Haley isn't a linebacker who would *like* to be a defensive 
>end...
OTOH, I don't see how the Chiefs are going to get ANY offense against the
Eagles.  The Eagles are, after all, giving up 60 yards rushing per game so
far, and Dave Krieg isnt the sort of quarterback who can sit under a heavy
rush and dissect an opposing defense... B-)
 
>--Saints' head coach Jim Mora has finally wised up and gotten rid of the
>committee at running back, more and more placing the ball in the hands of
>rookie Vaughn Dunbar.  Now, if only Bill Belichik would do the same...

What, place the ball in the hands of Vaughn Dunbar?  I dont know if he's up
to playing for 2 teams at once... B-)
 
>And that's how it looks to me...
>
>					---Chet Zeshonski

-- 
Tom Scudder                    tomscud@ruf.rice.edu or tomscud@hadron.merit.edu
"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, a half pack of
cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it."
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From: jerryb@mail.boi.hp.com (Jerry Bidondo)
Subject: Re: dierdork & MNF announcers
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:17:24 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Actually, the Cowboys do have another Monday night game--against Atlana I
believe.  Not sure of the date.

Go Cowboys!!!
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From: jcollins@sparkle.tnis (Jon Collins CT/90)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Still need TE is Shannon Sharpe a TE or WR?
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:15:31 GMT
Reply-To: jcollins@sparkle.tnis
Organization: Sun Microsystems


Shannon Sharpe may be listed in the 1992 fact guide as a TE, but through the year he has gone back out to wide receiver since Clarence Kay came back.  In fact, the Broncos have two TE's now.  How many TE's line up as a wide out?  If you watch the Bronco Redskin game tonight you will understand.  The guide, like every other seasonal football guide, becomes outdated very quickly.  

jcollins@ct.gmr.com

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From: ISTRE-A@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU
Subject: Re: John Elway's Comebacks.
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:05:10 GMT

 
In article <1992Oct7.194732.15731@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
>>later...peace
 
Wait.... Denver has lost 27-10, 39-20, 42-10 and 52-10 in the SB. They have lost
by a combined score of 160-50 or an average of 40-13...
 
 
Minnesota on the other hand has lost  20-7, 24-3, 16-7, and 22-7.
 
The Vikings SUper Bowl record is as follows:
 
1969:     Lost 23-7 to the Chiefs
1974:     Lost 24-7 to the Dolphins
1975:     Lost 16-7 to the Steelers
1977:     Lost 33-14 to the Raiders
 
That still comes out roughly the same in the average score, but let's get the
scores accurate.
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From: GC.SUL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sullivan)
Subject: Re: Will SF win the division?
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:59:55 GMT

In article <1avqs5INN4tt@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>,
david@cats.ucsc.edu (David Wright) writes:

(burp)
I said:
>|CAN beat them, few will.
>
>I am not sure how you can have that much confidence in the 49ers after
>they nearly lost to the Rams, as well as nearly loosing to the Saints.
>And, I believe that have one of the worst offrenses of the NFL.

You do mean the Rams and Saints, not the Niners.  Last year, after
the SECOND disappointing loss to the Failcons, the Niners were at
least 2 full games behind the Saints in the division race, and about
7 or 8 teams were ahead of them for the playoffs.  I bet a Saints
fan that the Niners would go farther in the playoffs than the Saints
would - no qualification on IF they make it, I was sure we'd win the
rest of our games, and we'd get some help.  I watched helplessly as
the Saints won their Monday night game to lock out the Niners, and
paid my $20 promptly.  (BTW, same Saints buddy would not take same
bet this year before season started.)

I just wanted to point out that confidence ~= wisdom, and I am most
guilty.

What I keep pounding at my fellow Niner fan colleagues at my
favorite watering hole is that they still don't understand the Niner
scheme for late season success. The price of their system that
guarantees late season success is often weaker overall
performances early season.  The Niners have always had trouble with
Rams at home, and Saints everywhere, no matter what the record,
even in their 'awesome' seasons.  If the 49ers only played the Rams
and Saints every year for 16 games, they would probably be a
consistant .500 club. Thank goodness for Hebert!

Mike



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From: tap1040@venus.tamu.edu (SPEED RACER)
Subject: Re:  SILK notes
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: Cowboys
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 06:28:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct08.181449.5426@bnr.ca>, patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power) writes...
> 
> 
>     Sorry, guys.  If you were expecting a post about the latest in
..deletions...

>      When is AMTRAK (Rickey Blake) returning?.....

He is elligible to return after the Seattle game this week.  Jimmy Johnson
says he has been practicing for a couple of weeks, but he is not quite
in "football" shape yet.  He lost 20 lbs. during his time on the PUP list.
With Swirvin' Curvin Richards out with his re-agravated lacerated kidney,
Blake may well be activated after the Seahawks game.

________________________________________________________________________________

                                     Tracy      
                              Texas A&M University
				       
John Madden: "There's a good sign.  Troy Aikman putting his pants back on."
Pat Summerall: "That's ALWAYS a good sign."    (RFK Stadium, Nov. 24, 1991)
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From: rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu (Ross Smith)
Subject: Re: Eagles : YIKES!
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 03:05:02 GMT

jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:

much more of Mr Glorias mindless drivel deleted..
>             ... The Eagles, IMHO, are a GREAT starter team, i.e., start the
>season with good results, but they have yet to win the big one.
>  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	

Once more you have stuck your foot in your mouth... I really hate to do this
to you yet AGAIN, but here are the facts...

Eagles 'great' starts: 1987 1-4 (finished 7-8, 4th NFC East)
                       1988 1-3 (finished 10-6, 1st NFC East)
                       1989 2-2 (finished 11-5, 2nd NFC East, wild card)
                       1990 2-4 (finished 10-6, 2nd NFC East, wild card)
                       1991 3-5 (finished 10-6, 3rd NFC East, missed playoffs)


-- 
______________________________________________________________________________
|rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu           Ross Smith              smith@oscar.udel.edu|
|    "I really hate that dog...." - Dr. Chase Matthews, Pet Semetary 2       |
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From: martens@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Steelers Browns Score ?
Date: 11 Oct 92 20:37:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: cis.1992Oct11.203748.19080
Organization: Ohio State U. Dept. of Computer Science

In article <BvyxGA.7EG@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:

>Can anyone tell me what the current score is in the Steelers VS. Browns Game

Final score:  Cleveland 17, Pittsburgh 9.
-- 
	Don't waste your time waving your hands
	and hoping when a rock or a club will do.

-- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu)
From: stephenl@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Stephen Lamar Legate)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Call For Votes: Painful Death to All Premature Woofers
Keywords: woofers, stoopid, death, death, death, and more death
Date: 12 Oct 92 00:41:52 GMT

Well, the week before last it was the Bills fans.  

And then last week they got pasted by the 'Fins.  And now this week they've 
been pasted by (shudder)... the Raiders.

And last week it was the Eagles fans.

And this morning they lost (rather convincingly) to the Chiefs.  HAH!

I suppose this week the Dolphans are going to REALLY come out of the closet
since the 'Fins squeaked by the hapless Vultures- er, Falcons.

Sigh.

I am calling for votes on this issue:

I propose to amend the r.s.f.p. charter as follows:

	Section X: Death to Woofers.

		Anyone who proclaims quite loudly that their team is the 
		undisputed best team in existence, or that they will kick 
		every other team's butt any day of the week, or that they 
		will obviously go 16-0, BEFORE said team has even gone 8-0,
		will be drawn, quartered, shot, dismembered, diced, dissolved
		in acid and then taken to be tortured.

Yeesh, people.  I even have a "Re:" in my killfile, and the shit is still too
thick.  The next moron who proclaims "EAGLEZ R00L!" or "DA BILLZ!" or 
"'FINS-- 16-0 REPEAT!!"  will receive a monogramed copy of /usr/dict/words
delivered by cron every 5 minutes until their mail spool explodes.

Drastic times call for drastic measures.  You have been warned.

Flames to /dev/null.

-Chundarr the Net.Terrorist,
 And his Friendly Dog, Gunthor.
From: jeffr@ssec.wisc.edu (Jeff Ramin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: HAIL THE BROWNS
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:08:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: daffy.1992Oct14.180815.23889
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Space Science and Engineering Center

In article <dn2001-131092152526@m248-103.bgsu.edu>, dn2001@andy.bgsu.edu (Dan Nolan) writes:
|> THE BROWNS RULE!!!!!!!!!!
|> 
|> THAT'S ALL AND NOTHING ELSE.
|> 
|> GREENBAY DOESN'T STAND A CHANCE AGAINST US.
                                           ^^

Are you a member of the team?  There's very few things more annoying than fans
using the term "us" instead of "them".  Occasionally, I'll even hear a very
poor broadcaster doing this.

As far as the Browns ruling anything: you appear to be the second coming of
Mr Caps Locked except worse - at least the Eagles can usually deliver on their
fans' foolish pre-game woofing.
From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: MNF announcers
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:52:04 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Chevron

(joseph.m.dakes) writes:
>
>Hey, Ray, if it's objectivity you want, why not start with yourself.
>Did you ever think that maybe Dierdorf is being somewhat objective
>with his comments about the Eagles?  

You can't be seriously taking up for this twit?  The MNF announcers REEK
and REEK THREEFOLD!  Well, Al Michaels brings a *little* relief to the
chunks Frank and Dan spew.

Kudos to the guy who suggested warming up an hour before MNF kickoffs
with "SHUTUP FRANK!"  I've tried it and found a vast improvement in my
ability to keep my supper down while watching.  Just be sure and cut
Frank off earlier -- you usually know when a really good Giffordism is
coming.  Something like (following on Dan's proclamation that the
Eagles have an All-everything DL), "Well, as Dan put it soooooooooooo
succintly---"  

"SHUTUP FRANK!!!!"

or:

"Well, Al, just to follow up on what I was saying.....And Dan, you touched 
on this earlier---"

"SHUTUP FRANK!!!!"

Whew!....there, that's better....
Its enough to make you appreciate Pat Haden et al.


(madden roolz)
-- 
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GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!!!    | Andy: "...Yer boys are mighty talkative today."
James Clyde  LSU '91    | Briscoe: "Yeh,...they's all keyed up."
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: EAGLES, COWBOYS
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:30:37 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <cep7wXi00UhWM4i3V9@andrew.cmu.edu> jw5c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jeffrey Weeks) writes:
>I have read enough of this pandering shit about how good the Eagles are.
> Lucky is more like it.  Any team that gets a triple-tipped interception
>and a fumble from an experienced reciever like an offensive lineman. 
>Cut out these flukes and the Cowboys kick Philly's vaunted defense
>around.  Don't worry you guys have no offense so enjoy being on top for
>one week.

Very convincing argument Jeffrey. I just read the morning paper, Aikman
has 6 games against the Eagles. Dallas is 0-6, Aikman has thrown 10-INT's
and 2TD's has been sacked 23 times. Philly has outscored Dallas in those 
6 games by ~140-35(I don't have the paper here at work).

Certainly sounds like luck to me.



Russ Smith
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: current League Stats Please
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:41:02 GMT

In article <Adriene_Nazaretian.65.718905569@QM.YCC.YALE.EDU> Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.YCC.YALE.EDU (Go GIANTS!) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.150934.29647@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
>>From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
>>Subject: Re: current League Stats Please
>>Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:09:34 GMT
>
>>In article <Adriene_Nazaretian.63.718897011@QM.YCC.YALE.EDU> Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.YCC.YALE.EDU (Go GIANTS!) writes:
>>>Would someone with some time on their hands please post the current NFL 
>>>standings after monday's game.  Thnx 
>>>Adriene L. Nazaretian        
>>>Yale University              
>>>ADRIENE@YALEADS.BITNET        
>>>ADRIENE@YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU  
>
>>NINERS WIN THE SB! :-)  Ok, Adriene, wanna make a bet that
>>the Niners will make it to the SB and the Giants will not?
>>-- 
>
>Geez, I said I was a Giants FAN, I'm realistic, NOT STUPID or that 
>bullheaded...  
>
>I will betcha the 9ers WONT make it to the SB this year, PERIOD.
>  
>Hmmm what could we bet....
>What could YOU have that I would want.... hmmmm
>
How about a brand new Sparc 2 with 32MB memory,
424MB hard drive, color of course. You will then have
a REAL UNIX WORKSTATION just like mine. :-) No, only
kidding, I would never bet my SPARC 2 away. :-)

Besides my SPARC 2, this 6'3", 225lb, dark, handsome guy probably
does not have anything you would want. :-)

>Suggestions anyone?  I'm sure some of your "fans" can help me think up 
>something appropriate...
>
Hey, you never know. I am holding my breath! :-)
>Adriene L. Nazaretian        
>Yale University              
>ADRIENE@YALEADS.BITNET        
>ADRIENE@YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU  


-- 
  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
  Let us be thankful for the fools; but for them the rest
  of us could not succeed.  -   Mark Twain