From: crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Old software
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:44:37 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In <1992Jul24.195917.26248@microsoft.com> darekm@microsoft.com (Darek Mihocka) writes:

>In Article <1992Jul23.213357.28919@oakhill.sps.mot.com> jeffh@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Jeff Hunsinger-MUX_Tech) writes:
>>Remember when there was a big movement to see if the old games had been
>>released into the public domain (or to get the companies to do so)? Well,
>>my results after contacting numerous companies were:
>>No reply.
>>No way.
>>
>>So... 
>>
>>If you can find it for sale, buy it. If not, copy it.
>>I hope to establish a "clearinghouse" for orphan software RSN...
>>
>>Jeff

>Amazing. Not only are you offering to pirate software and telling other
>people to do so, but you're actually offering to do this for people.
>Not for free, I'm sure. How much do you plan to charge people for this?
>Do you plan on sending any of the profits to the original companies
>like Sierra or are you gonna bag all the profits yourself.

Get a clue!  Read what's posted!  Jeff in no way offered to help pirate
software.  My understanding of his post (though I admit it was a bit vague)
was that he would act as a middleman for people who had legal copies of
software that they wanted to sell.  In effect, eliminating the excuse that
the programs aren't being sold.

[...]

>And give me a break. You 8-bit users are all pirates anyway, even though
>only Jeff here will admit it in public. You want me to believe that
>your typical Joe 6 Pack Atari user will be able to _only_ pirate software
>that is no longer in production and refrain from pirating software
>that is. Like your average user will _know_ which software it's "ok" to
>pirate and which it isn't.

So you're not an 8-bit user?  Then what are you doing here in the first
place?  Actually, I suspect you've got an 8-bit with hundreds of pirated
games and you're feeling a bit guilty, so you're releasing that guilt by
flaming others who do what you do yourself.  See a phschiatrist.

Actually, you did actually bring up (by accident, of course) one legitimate
point.  You refer to software that is still in production.  Is there any?
Any at all?  Is there even one company that is still producing software
for the 8-bits?  (I'm not talking about stuff sitting on store shelves for
years, I want to know if there's still anything in PRODUCTION.)  Furthermore,
does anyone really believe that any of the old 8-bit software that is no
longer on the market will ever be re-released for the 8-bits?  I didn't
think so.

>BULL****!!!! You are a complete disgrace to the Atari community. I hope
>you not only get sued by every 8-bit software developer past and present
>but that you lose your net privilidges as well. You're also pretty stupid.
>By blatantly offering your piracy services in public, you're opening yourself
>for all sorts of trouble. Moron.

>- Darek


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