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From: liuzzo@cbnewse.cb.att.com (james.g.liuzzo)
Subject: null modem for C64: help needed
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:07:05 GMT
Keywords: Null modem C64

I need to download some files to my C64.  A friend suggested that 
rather than buying a modem for my C64, I download the files to my
Macintosh (which has a modem), and then use xmodem to transfer them 
from the Mac to the 64 over a null modem cable.

After digging out my C64 Programmer's Manual, it looks like the
xmit and receive lines on the C64 user port need to be converted from
5 to 12 volts for the null modem cable.  Then it looks like it's just 
a matter of connecting xmit and receive (crossing them) and ground 
to the Mac port.

Have I got this right?  Assuming this works, at what speed could I
transfer files across the 2 machines?  Any other considerations I should
know about?

- Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: daled@cadence.com (Dale DePriest)
Subject: Re: uuencoder
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:55:46 GMT


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From: sppst4+@pitt.edu (Sean P Peck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Supra Peak RS-232 interface
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:58:29 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


	Attention all 128 global war players, if you play GLOBAL WAR online
game, then you must get the latest version of GWTERM 128. This file can
now be found on GENIE and on the PCG BBS (412)-434-6249. It is also FREQable 
from this bbs (1:129/143) (I believe that is the correct number) The file
is named GW3.ARC. Enjoy!
  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: cobra@coyote.datalog.com (Ken Thompson)
Subject: Commodore 8-bit Article Sources
Organization: Datalog Consulting, Tucson, AZ
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 04:17:24 GMT

 
 Greetings Commodore-Interested News-Readers!
 
 I am the editor of a Commodore and Amiga computer Users Group at my  
place of business (no, not the one that I have this account on, un-   
fortunately...), and I have been searching for quite some time for    
Commodore 64 & Commodore 128 articles that could be reprinted in our  
newsletter.  Since I only have news privleges on this account, I can't
FTP anything, either, so I'm kinda between a rock and a hard spot.
 
 If you know where I might be able to pick up on some news (if there IS
any...) and information (there should be *something*) on Commodore     
64 and C=128 systems, it'd be greatly appreciated.
 
 I do have an account on GEnie, but much of what gets put on-line there 
is in the form of compressed files that my humble Amiga can't deal with.
The decompressed versions I have looked over, and have picked through   
what was of interest.  The last time I did this was back in September.  
I went through about a year's worth of material, and only came up with a
handful of articles...argh!
 
 Any additional sources of material would be appreciated...I think some
of my readers (we have about a 50-50 ratio of Amiga users and 8-bit    
users) are getting tired of newsletters that are highly Amiga-biased.  
 
Thanks Mucho!
 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: sfx and stuff
From: yonerjp@brandonu.ca (Jerome P. Yoner)
Date: 30 Dec 92 11:12:43 CST
Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

I am looking for the sfx.ml file that is supposed to come in the lharc128.arc
file.  The arc was corrupt at the end and I am missing that one single file!!

I took a look on ccosun, but did not find it, anyone have any ideas where I
could find it real fast???

Also, for anyone who is interested, Dedit V7.0 is almost complete for the
64/128.  Both versions now support the FD series of drives.  The 128 version
now supports 1000 entries (I am going to try 2000 before I put it up!!).  So,
if a person has a 128, it mean a less chance of having to resort to Super
Dedit!  I will be including docs (GEOS and ASCII formats) with the programs.
From: ac803@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael W. Kelley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Commodore 8-bit Article Sources
Date: 5 Jan 1993 11:37:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ac803@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael W. Kelley)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, cobra@coyote.datalog.com (Ken Thompson) says:

> 
> Greetings Commodore-Interested News-Readers!
> 
> I am the editor of a Commodore and Amiga computer Users Group at my  
>place of business (no, not the one that I have this account on, un-   
>fortunately...), and I have been searching for quite some time for    
>Commodore 64 & Commodore 128 articles that could be reprinted in our  
>newsletter.  Since I only have news privleges on this account, I can't
>FTP anything, either, so I'm kinda between a rock and a hard spot.
> 
> If you know where I might be able to pick up on some news (if there IS
>any...) and information (there should be *something*) on Commodore     
>64 and C=128 systems, it'd be greatly appreciated.
> 
> I do have an account on GEnie, but much of what gets put on-line there 
>is in the form of compressed files that my humble Amiga can't deal with.
>The decompressed versions I have looked over, and have picked through   
>what was of interest.  The last time I did this was back in September.  
>I went through about a year's worth of material, and only came up with a
>handful of articles...argh!
> 
> Any additional sources of material would be appreciated...I think some
>of my readers (we have about a 50-50 ratio of Amiga users and 8-bit    
>users) are getting tired of newsletters that are highly Amiga-biased.  
> 
>Thanks Mucho!
Our user group participates in exchanges of newsletters with other
user groups, 34 of them at last count.  Send us your newsletter,
and we will send you ours.  Attn: Newsletter Editor.
Basic Bits Commodore Group
P.O. Box 447
No. Ridgeville, OH  44039-0193
You might also want to look into a user group  membership on 
QuantumLink. 1-800-827-8444, voice.
-- 
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Light Of Day C= Sysop (216) 327-1603, 9600  (216) 327-1423, 2400
County Link C= Sysop (216) 236-6126 4 nodes, My Basement BBS (216) 234-6572
Nerds Nook Fidonet 1:157/2   (216) 356-1431
From: byu@remus.rutgers.edu (Bob Yu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: 4SALE: DEAD C64, DEAD 1541, Working PS
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:03:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Commodore 64 HW for parts.

Dead C64 computer with working keyboard - $15 or B.O. +s/h
Dead 1541 disk drive (faulty PS) - $15 or B.O. +s/h
Working power supply for C64 - $5 or B.O. +s/h

or All together for $29 + shipping

If you are buying the whole thing, I will also include following
manuals for fixing C64 and disk drive:

C64 Diagnostic Instruction and Troubleshooting Manual
Diagnostic Manual C-64 Dead Test
Commodore Diskette Diagnostic Manual Version 2.0
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From: ec_ind03@Oswego.EDU (William Jhun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: How should I upgrade the dinosaur?
Date: 10 Jan 93 23:29:22 GMT
Reply-To: ec_ind03@oswego.Oswego.EDU (William Jhun)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

Also keep in mind:

 Scheidler Systems carries the 4.07MHZ EXPANSION CARTRIDGE
Due to excellent architecture of the 6510, 4.07 MHZ on a 64 is equivelant
to 8MHZ on an IBM! (look in a COMPUTE! magazine...its in a 1/4th size of
page ad.) I belive it also has a expansion slot on the back, so you could
plug in the xtra RAM.

Tenex sells brand new Aprotek c2400 modems for only $79.95 (1-800-PROMPT-1)


So how about that???

A 64, with a 20-200meg hard drive, 4.07MHZ(equiv. to IBM XT 8mhz speed)
with 577k ram. A 3 1/2" 808k disk drive (1581)....why should you even
CONSIDER getting an MS-DOS computer? (Unless you need to do networking or
multitasking)

Which reminds me:
  Anybody know about NETWORKING for the 64? Ethernet or similar? What
about MULTI-TASKING? I have a 3-process one...and it works pretty good.

William Jhun(ec_ind03@cloy.oswego.edu)
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|ec_ind03@oswego.edu           | William Jhun-P.O. BOX 346 Minetto, NY |
|SUNY OSWEGO                   | Programming Since 1986     13115-0346 | 
|State University of New York  | Commodore and IBM                     |
|at Oswego                     | C, 6510, 8088, BASIC, COMAL, LOGO...  |   
|"For those of you who are illiterate..forget it, you can't read this."|
From: thamilto@fnugget.intel.com (Tony Hamilton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: FOR SALE: 128 hardware, software, books
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:26:12 GMT
Organization: INTEL.FOLSOM

I am will to consider any reasonable offers on the following hardware,
software, and books:

Hardware:
Commodore 128 computer (not a 128D): includes power supply, users manual
  and original box.
ICT 20-meg hard drive. Resides in, and includes a 1571 floppy drive. Includes
  operating manual and DesTerm 2.0 pre-loaded to auto-boot.
Thomson 4120 Monitor: Compolsite, RGBI, RGB-Analog, Monochrome. Includes
  owner's manual.
Seikosha SP-1000-VC printer: includes extra new ribbons (4 I think), and
  original users manual.
1750 RAM Expander, 512K: includes manual, RAMDOS, both disks and original
  box.
Mach 128 Cartridge
Aprotek 1200-Baud Minimodem-C: includes manual
Commodore 300-baud modem

Software:
Beyond Zork (128 only)
World Class Leaderboard
Gary Kitchen's Gamemaker
Wiszard's Crown
Phantasie II
World Tour Golf
The Sentry
Ultima V
Merlin 128 Macro-Assembler

Most all software comes with original docs.

Books:
Commodore 128 Assembly Language Programming (SAMS) (a MUST for programmers!)
1571 Internals (Abacus)
128 Internals (Abacus)
BASIC 7.0 Internals (Abacus)
Mapping the Commodore 128 (Compute!) (binding broken - all pages still intact)
Commodore 128 Programming Secrets (McGraw-Hill)
Commodore 64 Programmer's Guide (Commodore)

Magazines:
Compute!'s Gazette: December 1988, March 1989 through November 1989

Please send any correspondence to: thamilto@pcocd2.intel.com
Thank you.
From: ec_ind03@Oswego.EDU (William Jhun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: AUDIO DIGITIZER
Date: 12 Jan 93 02:11:53 GMT
Reply-To: ec_ind03@oswego.Oswego.EDU (William Jhun)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

Hey guys... about a year ago I built an Audio Ditizer, the files on how to
do it, with the ADC08?? chip, the archives inlcude DOX, a GEOPAINT
SCHEMATIC AND BOARD LAYOUTS, SOFTWARE TO RUN IT, and a sample. This an
EXTREMELY HIGH QUALITY DIGITIZER!!! 5-20 khz (or if you mod the software,
you can get it to run faster) There is a sample "Don't Worry, Be Happy" as
well. These files are on Q-LINK. The module cost me less than $25 to
make...and belive me... IT'S WORTH IT!!! Its called DIGI0820.SDA...you
might as well just search for "digitizer AND audio". It's the only one on
there. At first I was thinking about not going through all the
trouble....but some spontanious reflex made me do it, and I'm SO happy I
did!!! It records 4k at 20 seconds....20k at 5 seconds...It saves as the
very popular .RAW files....check it out!

Will
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|ec_ind03@oswego.edu           | William Jhun-P.O. BOX 346 Minetto, NY |
|SUNY OSWEGO                   | Programming Since 1986     13115-0346 | 
|State University of New York  | Commodore and IBM                     |
|at Oswego                     | C, 6510, 8088, BASIC, COMAL, LOGO...  |   
|"For those of you who are illiterate..forget it, you can't read this."|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: YOUCKR@Meena.CC.URegina.CA (192503133)
Subject: Re: IRC MEETING
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:56:39 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Sask., Canada

This IRC meeting sounds like a good idea. There have been times when I have
been the only person on the #c-64 channel (5 hours with not one soul joining
the #c-64 channel.. I'm usally on IRC from 10pm-11pm CST everyday.

ron on IRC.
From: cb317@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stephanie J. Kessler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Bard's Tale III help needed
Date: 10 Jan 1993 08:02:03 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Well, after struggling through BTII, I've been having a great deal
of success with BTIII... until now, that is.  I'm on the 5th quest,
to recover the Helm of Justice and Sceadu's Cloak..  I have the
feeling that I am very close to finding the end of this one, but
have been stumped.  I'm on the second level of Sceadu's Lair, the
one with two circular corridors, with secret doors leading inside
towards the center.  I reach the center, and find the carving about
the end of a circle being the middle, and the two voices telling me
that the other end has my prize.  I'd appreciate a bit 'o' help on
figuring out either where to go or what to do next.  Thanx.
-- 
The United States is a nation of laws:  badly written and
randomly enforced.     Frank Zappa

cb317 @ cleveland.Freenet.Edu
From: duck@pembvax1.pembroke.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Commodore 8-bit Article Sources
Date: 5 Jan 93 05:06:48 EDT
Organization: Pembroke State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: pembvax1.pembroke.edu

In article <Be5TwB1w165w@coyote.datalog.com>, cobra@coyote.datalog.com (Ken Thompson) writes:
>  
>  Greetings Commodore-Interested News-Readers!
>  
>  I am the editor of a Commodore and Amiga computer Users Group at my  
> place of business (no, not the one that I have this account on, un-   
> fortunately...), and I have been searching for quite some time for    
> Commodore 64 & Commodore 128 articles that could be reprinted in our  
> newsletter.  Since I only have news privleges on this account, I can't
> FTP anything, either, so I'm kinda between a rock and a hard spot.
>  
>  If you know where I might be able to pick up on some news (if there IS
> any...) and information (there should be *something*) on Commodore     
> 64 and C=128 systems, it'd be greatly appreciated.

  Hi! - I'm the editor of C= Hacking a "net-magazine" put out about every 2 to
4 months and while the articles are mainly technical - ie: machine language
programming they might have some information that you could use. However
because of the way I've got the magazine set up I'd have to ask you to print
the whole magazine or contact the individual authors for seperate printings of
their articles. If you want more information on C= Hacking send the following
message to me:
  
   to: mx%"duck@pembvax1.pembroke.edu"
 subj: MAILSERVER
 body:
       help
       catalog

  and it'll send you documentation on how to get the files etc.   
  
 
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'Tis the dream of each programmer,
Before his life is done,
To write three lines of APL,
And make the damn things run.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: schuetz@fm11ap01.tu-graz.ac.at (Alexander Schuetz)
Subject: Announcing CHARITYWARE: The best cruncher on C64 ever!
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 03:37:37 GMT



Announcing Charityware: The best cruncher on the C64 ever!
----------------------------------------------------------

Well, the title says it and I promise it. But first, the story so far. Do
some guys remember the (quite wellknown) DARKSQUEEZER? Yes? Good. And if
you know other Lempel-Ziv style crunchers on the C64, you should know that
they are very slow. 

*Well, not anymore!*

What I did is basically the following: I took an already existing cruncher
(Darksqueezer ofcourse), checked out why he is so slow, found the reason 
and speeded him up a bit. That is, by factor 63 on a 512K ram expansion
(Commodore 1750) or about factor 28 if you use a 1764-ram expansion (256k).
The idea behind is, ofcourse, to make a data structure that makes searching
for sequences faster. I simply settled down for an array of lists, which 
eats alot memory but does the job quite nicely.

Testfile: Elite (201 blocks, $0801-$cfe6)

Cruncher                         Time                Result

Darksqueezer normal              95 minutes          162 blocks
Cruelcruncher (level 7)          ca. 420 minutes     162 blocks    
ARJ (PC AT, 8 MHZ)               6 seconds           164 blocks
Powerpacker (Amiga)              30 sec.             169 blocks
Darksqueezer (my 512K version)   1 minute 35 sec.    160 blocks
Darksqueezer (my 256K version)   3 minutes 11 sec.   160 blocks (same as b4)

The sad end had to come: With that beta version in mind, I trusted some
people that they'd check out for bugs and keep my version secret. Oh well...
they didnt. Some asshole at the XMAS Camelot-party in particular gave the
cruncher simply to everybody. 

Well, this wouldn't have hurt me so much at all, but thing is, I am a real
poor guy (both of my parents are living in retirement and I'm studying...)
so I wanted to earn some money with my idea. Now that's gone out of the 
window I suppose. Worse, other guys might try to steal my code, claim they
did it themselves and sell it.

Well, the cruncher got spread, but (a) maybe still not all people have it
and (b) I might always try to complete it (e.g. I could do a version for
two disk drives instead of ram expansion etc.). If you would like to get
my cruncher (beta), please send a donation ($10 or something like that)
to
                P.O.BOX 29
                A-8052 Graz
                Austria, Europe

Please use notes, no coins.

As soon as the first donations arrive I will UUENCODE and upload it here.
Wonder why I'm the first one with this idea. The ramexpansion is out since
atleast 1988.

Any comments welcome, please email. 












Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: cs911180@ariel.yorku.ca (ENNIO A CELLUCCI)
Subject: unzip for CS-DOS
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: ?
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:40:19 GMT


Hi Bruce,  remember me?
 
Just a quick question about your release of the unziper for CS-DOS:
Does it handle the new version of PKUNZIP?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: bbs-artmoore@jwt.UUCP (arthur moore)
Subject: Re: How should I upgrade the dinosaur?
Reply-To: bbs-artmoore@jwt.UUCP
Organization: The Matrix
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 15:52:42 GMT

> 	lotsa RAM (is 512K total possible?)
> 	2400 baud modem
> 	3.5" floppy drive
> 	hard drive??
> 	color monitor
> 	80 columns
> 	speed...Speed...SPEED!!!!!
> 
Hmmm...512k REU Clone from SSI is $99.95 (no power supply needed).. pick 
up a used external 2400 for about $40-$50, + the interface from Tenex for 
another $25.. 1581's are $115 from Software Hut, or the CMD FD series - 
$239 for 1.6 meg or $299 for 3.2 meg... Hard drives are $300 (I think) 
for 20 megs... 80 cols for the 64?  Dont think so (not yet, anyway).. 
Color monitor 'bout $75 used..
 
Check your newspaper for the modem & monitor... much better than buying 
new.

( ( Art Moore  | Usenet bbs-artmoore@jwt.uucp
 ) )           |  -or-  bbs-artmoore@jwt.oau.org
( (            | Fidonet CBM  -  Arthur Moore
 ) )__Ask me about the C64 qwk offline reader!__
From: pf2@doc.ic.ac.uk (Pietro Ferrari)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: c64 blank screen
Date: 7 Jan 1993 14:27:05 -0000
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: motmot.doc.ic.ac.uk
Keywords: cpu video


hello hardware freaks,

heres a problem i have got.  Basically when the machine is turned on, i get a
black screen, and nothing else.  The power light comes on, and the tape motor
starts.  It doesnt seem to start properly, no blue screen or anything.  The tape
stays on, but the black screen just stays and nothing else happens...

any help would be greatly appreaciated .. eg what chips you reckon are mucked up.


Thanks in advance, Pietro

.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: bvrielin@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Bruce Vrieling)
Subject: BVUNZIP release
Keywords: cs-dos
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:08:02 GMT

Hello all,

I just recently returned to the Usenet mail world as my school term began
again in January. As such, I'm not sure if the following news made it here
or not:

The latest release of the CS-DOS Extra Utilities Pack V4.0 includes a
complete unzipping system which can handle most v1.x PKWARE style ZIP files.
In other words, its an unzipper for the CBM world.

Note that it runs under CS-DOS on the 128; don't ask for a C64 or 128 native
mode version, as it won't be coming.

I'm currently working on a zipper as well, which will simply STORE files
without compression. This will be so that users who MUST transfer ZIP files
will be able to (some QWRRK users?). Expect this to be released in the next
month or so.

There was corrupt version of the current Pack floating around locally here
in Toronto. However, the copy on GEnie, and two major Fido sites (Diamond
Bar and The Enterprise BBS's) are just fine. Be sure to follow the
documentation exactly in the file for BVUNZIP (that's its name,
incidentaly).

The filename is CS-XTRA4.LZH, and I hope to put it on cco.caltech.edu
tonight in the pub/rknop/INCOMING subdirectory. I assume Rob will then move
it to /pub/rknop/cs-dos.

I appreciate all comments and suggestions, as well as your experiences with
the package. Like the documentation says, it is a first effort, and I was
rushed to get it out. Hence it is not as complete as I would have liked it
to be (eg. not many options for different things). Your suggestions will
help to define what V2.0 of BVUNZIP will look like. :))

Enjoy!

...Bruce
From: ac803@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael W. Kelley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: 128 terms
Date: 5 Jan 1993 11:19:45 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ac803@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael W. Kelley)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, YOUCKR@Meena.CC.URegina.CA (192503133) says:

>I am looking for a 128 term that has VT100, 2400 baud, 80col, and KERMIT.
>I have Desterm kicking around, but I don't have the overlay for KERMIT.
>If you can tell me where I can get a terminal or the Desterm overlay, please
>tell me.
>Thanks!
>
>
Kermit is not yet available for Desterm, although it is supposedly
being worked on for the next release by someone other than Matt
Desmond.  I would recommend Kermit 2.2, which runs in 64 mode but
can utilize the 80 column video of the 128. Takes a little  getting
used to, but once you have it setup it works sweetly.
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Light Of Day C= Sysop (216) 327-1603, 9600  (216) 327-1423, 2400
County Link C= Sysop (216) 236-6126 4 nodes, My Basement BBS (216) 234-6572
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From: cs911180@ariel.yorku.ca (ENNIO A CELLUCCI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: TPUG (Toronto User Group)
Date: 9 Jan 93 02:47:15 GMT
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada

In article <1993Jan08.042311.3600@src4src.linet.org> ckunz@src4src.linet.org (Charles Kunz) writes:
>Someone mentioned a user group in Toronto called TPUG, is there an
>address I can write (or send a SASE) for more info?  Thanks in
>advance.

Hi,  the current address of TPUG is:
Toronto PET Users Group
5334 Yonge St.,  Box #116
Willowdale,  Ont.,
Canada,
M2N 6M2

Telephone  (416) 253-9637  (voice - leave a message)
           (416) 273-6300  (BBS).

Is there anything specific you'd like to know (I'm a member)?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm