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From: Jens Alfke <jens_alfke@gateway.qm.apple.com>
Subject: Re: Dustdevils
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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:46:15 GMT
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Organization: Apple Computer

Michael, mag@wam.umd.edu writes:
>     Can anyone make any recommendations of which Squirrelbait and/or
>Dustdevils albums to pick up, and what do they sound like??

Dustdevils I have found:
"Rhenyard's Grin" LP ('87)
"Gutter Light" EP ('87)
"Struggling Electrical & Chemical" LP ('90 or '91)

I believe there is at least one more album within that 3-year gap but
haven't found it. Info would be greatly appreciated.

Which is best? Right now I lean toward "Gutter Light", but go ahead and
buy "SE&C"; it's almost as good (despite three or four filler tracks) and
you have a much better chance of finding it. It's also the only one on CD
(as far as I know) if that makes a difference.

Their sound is, well, one can't escape comparing them to mid-'80s Sonic
Youth, although more melodic and less spacy. Think of "Expressway To Yr
Skull" without the long fade-out. The first album also somehow reminds me
of the harder-rocking moments of Salem 66.
  A damn good sound, if not entirely original.
  Their singer is female and has (in my opinion) a much better voice than
Kim Gordon. But I hear she's recently left the band and their music has
suffered as a result.

I concur that their cover of "Hip Priest" is phenomenal. Better than the
original, I think, though I should say I'm not a big fan of early Fall.

To sum up: Any fan of pre-"Daydream Nation" Sonic Youth should lap this
stuff up. Buy buy buy!

--Jens Alfke
From: ivan@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Ivan Patrick Arrington)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Pale Saints
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:35:21 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina

Hi, I'm a Pale Saints fan, and even though their last album was a little
of a letdown after the comforts of madness, I was wondering if anyone had any
information on concert T-shirts, I haven't been on the ball lately and can't
find any place to order them here.  

                                       Thanks,
                                       Ivan
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: phadrus@leland.Stanford.EDU (Neil A Evans)
Subject: Re: Rage against the machine
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 22:57:26 GMT

In article <gf_tB7e00WBK42OHNQ@andrew.cmu.edu> Spencer J Hollis <sh4m+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>I have recently come into contact with this album and although It is
>really ultra-militant, I like it.  The first time that I listened to it
>I thought that it was utter sub rap crap, but some of the toons such as
>"killing in the name of" and "bomb track" have some increadible musical
>elements.  What do you all think?  I'm tryin to hate it but just can't. 
>It reminds me of a militant chili peppers.

Rage is great!  I first heard them on an Epic (I think) pre-release sampler tape and then I saw them at Lolla2 (and got my nose broken watching the show...but that's OK).  I don't have the CD, but I have a pre-release tape copy which I got a month or two before the CD came out and I'm pretty sure that it contains the final versions of all the songs.

A militant chili peppers?  Sort of, i spose...  The lead is great in concert...lots of anger and energy...  I hope these guys get the popularity they deserve (yeah, it sucks when a cool group gets popular, but these guys deserve to make money off of there work...and it is nice to get their message across to more people.  I don't think we'd have to worry about a Nirvana/RHCP trendy explosion...more like worrying that they don't disappear into obscurity.  I have NER heard d a Rage track on the radio so I rea


lly don't know how well it's selling...hopefully enuff so the boys can keep making great albums and even better shows!




      Neil
        Anger is an energy...
From: stephane.gelinas@synapse.org (Stephane Gelinas) 
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Throwing Muses concert mi
Date: 11 Dec 92 13:07:00 GMT
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Reply-To: stephane.gelinas@synapse.org (Stephane Gelinas) 

BR>The Saints, Maxwell's

That's the _autralian_ "Saints" and not the "Utah Saints"?

I thought that The Saints didn't exist anymore.  After all, Chris Bailey
released two solo albums after the last Saints' studio release (Prodigal son).
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From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: Dave Kendall fired from 120 minutes
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 22:36:10 GMT

In <Bz4tF0.Fnt@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jcp29389@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (I Jam - Therefore I Am) writes:
>bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald) writes:
>>   <Hating MTV and Dave Kendall> == <ain't gettin' any>...???
>>   If bashing MTV is a sign of "not gettin' any", then you're saying
>>  every 12-year-old bepimpled metalhead with more Guns N' Roses T-shirts
>>   than Dave Kendall has toupees ARE gettin' some!!!
>>   That's incredibly scary.  I fear for the gene pool.
>>   ...oh, I just want to ask... what EXACTLY do you mean by
>>   "gettin' any" (to confirm my assumption)?
>anyone with expressing that much hatred about something (ANYTHING, not just
>mtv) must not be gettin any.
>not gettin any pussy, that is.

Of course this makes the bigoted assumption that they want "pussy".
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
        We've distilled the cheeky wide-boy essense of these characters
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From: saxe_dh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Dean H Saxe)
Subject: Re: MiniDisc is here!
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:09:59 GMT

>Face it:  tape as a consumer recording medium is on the way out fast.
>Philips is going to crash and burn on this one.

	Yeah just like Phillips crashed and burned with CD's huh?  If you
knew your technology history you would know that Phillips was the company
that invented digital storage media for music.  They have set the worldwide
standards.  And even today I have a Magnavox CD player, which has the same
internals as the Pioneer and one other brands (at least!) CD player.  All
made by PHILLIPS!  So, don't be surprised if DCC catches on and Sony bites
the big one.
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From: cflatter@nrao.edu (Chris Flatters)
Subject: Re: buttholes
Reply-To: cflatter@nrao.edu
Organization: NRAO
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:44:23 GMT

In article 13060@dosgate, "chris benn" <chris.benn@canrem.com> () writes:
>The B.S.'s released an official live video(in 1985 I think) called
>'Blind Eye See's All' or something like that.  Does the self-titled
>album have the song 'hey' on it?  I've been looking for it for quite a
>while.

`Hey' is on Locust Abortion Technician and also on the Double Live album.

	Chris Flatters
	cflatter@nrao.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: cherry@cup.hp.com (Kristen Cherry)
Subject: Replacements
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:18:35 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4

I'm interested in getting a Replacements cd and I was wondering if 
someone could suggest a good place to start.  

Thanks,
Kristen

cherry@cup.hp.com
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: mag@wam.umd.edu (Michael)
Subject: Re: Mr. Bungle/Mr. Zorn
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:48:43 GMT

In article <1g8m8rINN3ii@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> gdl@po.CWRU.Edu (Gregory D. Lyle) writes:
>
>Has Mr Bungle released anything other than the self-titled album?
>
>Furthermore, what's some good Zorn stuff (other than Mr.Bungle 
>and Naked City)?
>
     check out Cobra (double CD), Filmworks 86-90, News For Lulu, and
if you're feeling adventurous, try Painkiller.

     -- Mike --
        mag@wam.umd.edu



Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 12:28:36 -0500 
From: "Megan E. Dietz" <md3n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: What is "alternative"
	<1992Dec15.195827.6657@news.uiowa.edu>

>Why is it the the idea of a band *changing* is so bad?  The 'Mats changed a
>hell of a lot from hootenanny to Pleased to Meet Me.  Westerberg could never
>understand why this pissed people off.  Or maybe he did.  I recall an inter-
>view where he said that the people who are gonna stop liking you because you
>are no longer their secret little hip pocket band can take a hike (paraphrase)
>Of course an artist/band is going to change over time.  Change is one of the
>few things you can count on in life.  Surely no one would want to listen to
>a musician who keeps doing the same thing over and over.  Lighten up and just
>listen to the music.  If you like it fine, if it doesn't suit you any more,
>don't be bitter, just find something else.

Amen, brother.

happy hollydays


Megan
---------------------------
I don't need to be forgiven
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From: johnkey@maths.tcd.ie (Daniel Byrne)
Subject: Too Much Joy?
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:21:46 GMT


What is this band like? I've seen the name mentioned around, and this morning  
I saw a promo of theirs going for a ridiculously cheap price so I was wondering
if it'd be any good. What other bands could they be compared to? 

I've fairly wide tastes in music (Sonic Youth, The Fall, Godflesh, Tom Waits,
Ministry, Stravinsky, Syd Barrett, etc) so I'd like know if I'd be into it......

Thanks,


tHE mASCARA sNAKE (yeah?)

 
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: mtlatour@next11 (MATTHEW T. LATOURETTE)
Subject: Lush Lyrics
Reply-To: mtlatour@mathlab.mtu.edu
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:18:57 GMT

Title says it all. Anybody out there have lyrics to Lush "Spooky"?

Thanks in advance,

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From: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise)
Subject: Re: EDDIE VEDDER DEAD?
Originator: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:39:00 GMT

From article <1gnnj7INNq60@agate.berkeley.edu>, by sherw@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gregory Sherwin):
> This reminds me to make a note for all of those who wish to see Eddie Vedder
> dead - be careful what you wish for because you just might get it.  I
> personally could do without all the post-mortem Eddie-mania: the tribute
> albums and concerts, the "Life and Times of Eddie Vedder" TV specials,
> the day-long Eddie Vedder memorial radio orgies, Eddie sightings, the
> Eddie postage stamp -- please!!

	Well, we already have to live with the look-alikes...the above
certainly couldn't be any worse!  :)

 TTYL
 Chris
From: mnf0642@hertz.njit.edu (                          )
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Eddie Vedder Dead?
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:27:10 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

It's like those people that keep saying that Elvis is dead. I don't believe
it.

Nuno
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.music.progressive,mn.general,rec.music.industrial
From: mwd@cray.com (Mark Dalton)
Subject: Modern Rock in MN KGFC
Followup-To: mwd@cray.com
Summary: Modern Rock in MN, new station KGFC
Originator: mwd@snoid
Keywords: progressive, alternative music
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: mn
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:36:33 CST

Hi! Me again,

Below is what is happening with Modern Rock in the Twin Cities.
If you have any futher questions, concerns, etc. Let me know.
mwd@cray.com

___________Revision of Twyla's Message_______________________

		SAVE MODERN ROCK / KGFC Inc.

Hello, This is what is going on with MODERN ROCK in the TwinCities.

The call letters for the station will be: KGFC

We are putting the final touches on our business plan for the station.
Once we have completed it, it will serve as a key tool in the purchase
of a station and also in our fundraising efforts.  The securing of funds
and purchase of a station will happen in a very close time.  We have
looked at several stations in the Twin Cities.  We also had the frequency
and signal strength tested to determine how many boosters maybe needed
for each of those stations.  This was to help determine the total cost
for the station and a strong signal throughout the Twin Cities and suburbs.

We have a variety of fundraising options available to us, including but not
limited to the foundations, corporations, goverment agencies, and the
listenership.  We would like to start securing funds.  If you would like
to help out in this area contact me and I will get a address to send
your contributions to.  SMR/KGFC is an official Incorporated non-profit
organization.  
	The chief officers under the incorporation are Sara Ellefsen,
Kevin Cole, and Twyla Staiger.  They will also be serving as temporary
board members until the board is fully chosen.  We have chosen two permanent
board members.  The first is Bob Rudell who is currently the Senior Vice
President of Institutional Marketing for the IDS Financial Services.  Bob is
serving as our financial advisor right now and has been instrumental in putting
our business plan together. The second member to join us is Chris Osgood. Chris
is currently the manager of Artists Services for Resources and Counseling for
the Arts.  Prior to that, Chris was the leader of the band, Suicide Commandoes.
Chris is very active in the local music industry and will be a very good person
to have involved.  We're very excited about both Bob and Chris, they're really
cool people and we welcome them. 

____End of revision of what Twyla sent me____

Thanks!

Mark
-- 
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Cray Research, Inc.
Eagan, MN 55121
Internet: mwd@cray.com
From: owen@emds.enet.dec.com (Steve Owen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Tribe
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:30:14 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.
Organisation: Digital Equipment Corporation, Maynard MA


In article <1992Dec15.084643.11835@athena.mit.edu>, dml@athena.mit.edu (David M LaMacchia) writes...
>In article <1992Dec14.194819.963@random.ccs.northeastern.edu> mmidura@ccs.northeastern.edu (Marc Midura) writes:
>>In article <13DEC199223251939@csa1.lbl.gov> watts@csa1.lbl.gov (PAUL N WATTS) writes:
>>>In article <1992Dec13.205701.399@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, straffin@Xenon
>>>Stanford.EDU (Ethan Douglas Straffin) writes...
>>>>In article <12DEC199222515570@csa1.lbl.gov> watts@csa1.lbl.gov (me) writes:
[Lots of stuff deleted]

>Soon there'll also be a "third" album out, although I don't know the title.
>I recently saw them and they played a bunch of songs off the new album 
>(including a really upbeat one about the Texas Supercollider).  At the
>time they said they were going to be in the studio recording in November/
>December and were planning to release the album early 1993.

Yup, that's true.  They're recording it at the same studios they recorded 
"Abort" at... but they're not going to have the same producer (Gil 
somethingorother... I can't remember his name... produced lots of Pixies 
stuff).  Apparently their new producer will be the guy who produced Michael 
Penn's last couple of albums, but his name escapes me also.

>Does anyone know when/if Tribe will be playing in the Boston area anytime
>in the future?  

I was supprised to hear they were touring with Live... last I heard was they 
would be in the Studio before Thanksgiving (which was last month now).

I'll call their management and post something if they give any tour dates.

Later...
Steve
owen@emds.enet.dec.com
From: dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: real "women's music".
Date: 14 Dec 1992 19:40:04 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: case.ai.mit.edu

In article <1992Dec14.132551.1@hamp.hampshire.edu> cwoolner@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:
>but i find it very sad that no one was able to come up with any all/mostly
>female bands outside of L7 and babes in toyland. 

Well, there's always Bangles, but everyone knows about them and they're
not really that alternative.  Voice of the Beehive is an alternative
band where the girls write all the songs and the guys just seem to play
their instruments and stay in the background, but are they a "female
band?"  Does it matter?

>and someone dared to call music by women a "genre". fuck u.

I think the problem here is that music promoters really latch onto the
"all girl band" concept and milk it for all it's worth.  This gets
people thinking of "all girl bands" as a single genre, unfortunately.

>just because a band had members without dicks does not mean they sound
>anything like another female band.

Well they will have higher voices!  (Ah, but there are Yes and Rush
to consider.)

Dave Baggett
--
dmb@ai.mit.edu           MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory                  
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: ech005@cch.coventry.ac.uk (CR Willis)
Subject: 1000 homo dj's
Followup-To: This has to follow something?
Organization: stainless steel clubbers
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:28:47 GMT

EBM/indust fans, tell me what else 1000 dj's released if anything--+-also 
info re. the new UK indust band being formed in London--+-- due to release
around now if I remember rightly--Thanks---ME.
From: stephane.gelinas@synapse.org (Stephane Gelinas) 
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Neil Rodgers Fan Club
Date: 12 Dec 92 10:47:00 GMT
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Reply-To: stephane.gelinas@synapse.org (Stephane Gelinas) 

WM>Ok kids, here is your chance.  Post your favorite story/joke concerning
WM>this flame baiter at your leisure.

Why don't we _all_ ignore him?  If he doesn't get any attention maybe he'll
go masturbate elsewhere.
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A Shnekendorf)
Subject: Tribe
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:07:48 GMT

Has anyone ever heard of a band called Tribe?  I'm seeing Live and Tribe is 
opening for them.  Any comments?

Ed.
From: pdherzog@fozzy.UUCP (Paul D. Herzog)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: anyone know what Greg Norton has been up to?
Keywords: Husker Du
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:03:43 GMT
Organization: Alcatel Network Systems, Richardson Texas, USA

sherw@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gregory Sherwin) writes:

>Now we all know what Bob Mould has been doing since the break up of Husker Du -
>solo albums and now with Sugar.  And what Grant Hart has been doing (making
>the solo album _Intolerance_, which I just might like a little better than
>Mould's solo albums, and then with the lackluster Nova Mob) is no mystery
>either, though not as widely known as Mould's endeavors.

>However, anyone know what the least known (and least talented) member
>of Husker Du, Greg Norton, has been up to since the break up?  Has he tried
>anything musically, or has he entered into something different ? (like
>the original guitarist of Dream Syndicate, whom I can't remember the name of
>right now unfortunately, who became an ichthyologist after leaving the band
>of all things).

>greg

About 2 1/2 years ago in Milwaukee (right around the time that Intolerance
came out), I did an interview with Greg Norton and his new band Grey Area.
All I remember is that the guitar band used to be in a band called Fine Art.
They were in town playing their first gig, opening for Firehose.  They were
pretty god-awful, IMO.  They sounded kind of like early Huskers (not all
that surprising when you consider Metal Circus was his favorite HD release),
but with Greg singing.  Not a good idea.  I don't think they're still
together, since I have heard nothing from them since.....

That is all you know and all you need to know.

--- Zog

______________________________________________________________________________
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Alcatel Network Systems, Inc.   |  I want?  Will the price be no object?
Dallas, Texas                   |  I wish for dreams of light
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Work:  (214) 996-2624           |
Home:  (214) 739-3638           |                        --- Bob Mould
From: steven@abekrd.co.uk (Steven Glenister)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Slowdive split??????????
Date: 17 Dec 92 09:32:56 GMT
Organization: Abekas Video Systems, Reading, UK.

In <1992Dec9.121425.2334@dct.ac.uk> bssbc3gsd@dct.ac.uk writes:

>In article <1992Dec07.203110.24843@crash>, mdc@crash.cts.com (Milo D. Cooper) writes:
>> In article <SMIRJ.92Dec7092715@SunLab42.essex.ac.uk> smirj@SunLab42.essex.ac.uk (Smith R J) writes:
>> `
>> `Slowdive - who live in Reading have split up. Rachel (the singer) was going 
>> `	out with one of the guitarists (can't remember which), they split
>> `	up, and she went back to her old boyfriend (who I believe the band
>> `	all know) and apparently they decided to call it quits. There you are
>> `	a nice bit of gossip for you...
>> `--
>> `~ Robin Smith ~ The Weather Watcher ~ No, not a meteorologist~
>> 
>> 	Where did you come upon this information?  If it is true, then per-
>> haps Neil Halstead will cease writing pretty songs and produce more music
>> like that on _Blue Day_.  _Just For A Day_ seemed to reveal an overly com-
>> fortable lifestyle on his part, and on Rachel's as well, since they were
>> lovers.
>> 
>> 						 _m d c_
>> 			  Milo D. Cooper  '92   | 1992  |  mdc@crash.cts.com
>> 						`-------'
>...Blue Day?????????????????



>what is this?????



>split up!!


>oh no!!!


>shoegazings starstruck young lovers are no more!!!!!!

>are the other four still together????????


Regarding the above. I reherse at a studio where slowdive reherse and I can
asure you that they are still playing. Still, you can't win 'em all

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