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From: kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori)
Subject: Re: Series' beginnings
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:47:12 GMT

In article <9204161919.AA25822@tyrell.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM> ottoh3@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Otto Heuer #3) writes:
>
>Roger Tang writes:
>
>|       The mind boggles. SPECTRE??
>
>Spectre was excellent.  It  showed us  some of  the characters  in a unique
>setting.  
>TNG  should  take  some  clues  from  this  and  show  us how the
>Enterprise-D crew would act if thrust into a strange situation.  

As did Q-PID. As did ROYALE.


>TNG  should  take  some  clues  from  this  and  show  us how the
>Enterprise-D crew would act if thrust into a strange situation.  Maybe this
>is why I'm looking forward to "Time's Arrow" so much.  

From what I understand, it's only one crewmember, and he's the one
that's "unsuited for television", in your view.


>| >>I really do find it painful to watch DM.   When Decker  starts drooling 
>|  and
>| >>spitting on the cast members as he utters (with no sense of  acting at 
>all)
>| >We obviously have different definitions of the word "acting". :-)
>| 
>|       Well, didn't you get just a LITTLE sense of that with his continued
>| declarations that Patrick Stewart is a bad actor?
>
>Now, now, Roger...  let's not mis-quote me again.  I never  claimed Pat was
>a bad actor.  I said that his style of acting  doesn't lend  itself well to
>the television scene.   He  is one  of the  better performers  when he does
>stage work.  He really knows his  stuff in  that arena.   He  just needs to
>learn how to act well for *television* (or else  go back  where he belongs,
>which (from what he's said recently) is  exactly what  he plans  to do when
>his contract is up).

Man, I don't know what your definition of "acting for television vs.
acting for stage" is, but if more TV actors were as bad as Mr. Stewart,
I'd be a much happier viewer.



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TNG Lifelines: From "Yesterday's Enterprise" To "The First Duty" --
  "Prior to Starfleet Academy commencement ceremonies, an in-flight
   accident destroys five ships, including the one carrying Wesley
   Crusher" -- TV Guide: Mar. 28 - Apr. 3
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Monday, 6 Apr 1992 00:28:49 EST
From: <WITHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Wesley's "Punishment" (SPOILERS FOR FIRST DUTY)
 <VcFsiB2w164w@netlink.cts.com>

In article <VcFsiB2w164w@netlink.cts.com>, trekkie@netlink.cts.com (Bryce
Newall) says:
>
>hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:
>
>> No, but his graduation will be delayed, everyone at the Academy will be
>> laughing at him, a year's worth of F's destroys his chances of graduating
>> in the top 10%, and he has to live with 20-th  century doors longer.
>>
>He wasn't going to receive F's for his courses.  Rather, it was going to
>appear as though he had never taken them.  Sure, they'll be easy for him the
>second time through, but like you said, the other students will be "laughing
>at him", since they'll all know why he's there.
>
>                                                -- Trekkie
>
No, more like being scorned, Nova Squadron will be disgraced and won't be
mentioned...

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From: pinette@fraser.sfu.ca (Gandolf the 23rd)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: breathing space, was Re: 10 Forward windows...
Date: 17 Apr 92 20:43:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

In article <1992Apr17.154004.25815@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> ESCHLENE@UCS.INDIANA.EDU (Eric Schlene) writes:
>In article <2020.684.uupcb@matrix.sbs.com> judy.ranelli@matrix.sbs.com (Judy
>Ranelli)  writes:
>>-> Gee, Mike, I hope you never have to transport claustrophobic whales.
>>-> As a rule, I generally like to have windows, too.
>>->
>>-> Besides, Kirk & co. couldn't have looked at them in the holding tank
>>-> if it had been made of steel.
>>
>>But here's another YATI: Whales have to BREATHE. How could they in a
>>tank full of water? They didn't mention "breathing space".
>>
>>judy
>>                
>>
>
>Whales don't breath like you or me. They can go down for something like 20
>minutes or so (not positive on length of time, perhaps more). I think the movie
>director assumed that we all understood that the whales had been holding their
>breath for the return trip around the sun. If you remember from the movie,
>there was some concern after the crash to get the whales free, or "they'll
>drown."
>
>
>-eric

ok... but it's been a while since I've seen the movie, how long did it
take them to back to there own time?

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From: goldberg@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Patti Twigg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Deja vu
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:52:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr7.170406.26638@cs.rose-hulman.edu>, mortoncp@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Christopher P Morton) writes...
>In article <1992Apr7.110727.25165@koko.csustan.edu>  
>jfleming@koko.csustan.edu (John Fleming) writes:
>> Am I right or am I wrong?
>> 
>> Is the actress that played Nurse Chappel(sp) in the original
>> Star Trek the same actress who now plays Lwaxana Troi the 
>> obnoxious mother of Deanna Troi in TNG??
>> 
> 
>Yep.  That was Mrs Gene Roddenberry.  She has played Nurse Chapel in TOS,  
>Lwaxana Troi in TNG and is also the voice of the Enterprise computer for  
>TNG.  Has she played any other parts gang?
> 

   yes. Number One in 'Where No Man Has Gone Before', the original 
   pilot.
   and i believe she did the computer voice on the animated series.

                             Patti Twigg
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From: ottoh3@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Otto Heuer #3)
Subject: TREK RATE results (MOVIES)
To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Posted-Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 23: 01:48 cst
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 05:01:48 GMT
Received-Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 00: 00:31 CDT

To send in votes, see accompanying posting with the subject line "TREK RATE".

This is the bi-monthly posting with a list of Star Trek in all flavors.
It contains the average rating for each episode, movie, book, etc. according
to the Usenet population.  It is useful for deciding which books to read (weed
out the one that NO one enjoyed), what episode of TNG people thought was the
best (or worst), etc.  RATE is the average rating on a scale of 0 to 1, NUM is
the number of votes in the database, and EPISODE NAME is (surprise) the
episode name with type (A=TAS B=book M=movie N=TNG O=TOS) in parenthesis.

0.278  55 STAR TREK V:  THE FINAL FRONTIER (M) 
0.490  55 STAR TREK:  THE MOTION PICTURE (M) 
0.649  54 STAR TREK III:  THE SEARCH FOR SPOCK (M) 
0.782  56 STAR TREK IV:  THE VOYAGE HOME (M) 
0.803  22 STAR TREK VI:  THE UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY (M) 
0.891  55 STAR TREK II:  THE WRATH OF KHAN (M) 
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From: jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung)
Subject: Re: The finale of the sixth season.
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 06:52:42 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.021112.9386@linus.mitre.org> wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) writes:
>
>    I initially posted what follows as a response to "TNG: The Final
>    Year. Episodes I'd (seriously!) like to see.", and since I got some 
>    positive responses I thought I'd put my idea out in front of a wider
>    audience ( Plus giving me a chance to clean up my lousy spelling.)
>   
>    So what we have here is my ultimate fantasy episode to be used as 
>    the finale of the sixth season.  Please keep in mind that
>    what follows is a without question a product of my propensity for
>    *action* episodes.  ( Something similar to this is what I would have
>    loved to see as the final mission of James T. Kirk. )

	[Plot of Life or Death deleted]
>
>    ( I know there are flaws, but does it sound good?  If so, to whom do
>    I send it for consideration. )

	This won't get through Paramount unless they relaxed the Data-is-
not-human-and-can't-feel-emotions rule.  Secondly, maybe there is a better
opponent to the Federation and the entire Starfleet than (gasp, choke) Sela.
Time and time again, she has proved to be completely incompetent, irrational,
and too emotional to be a good commander.  She has the motivation to conquer
the Federation, but she doesn't have the skills to carry it through.  I'm
surprised that the Romulans keep her around after her miserable failure
at the Galrondon Core.  (Yeah, yeah, I know the real reason why she's still
around, but fantasy is more fun than reality.)  If the Romulan Empire is
so inept as to keep Commander Sela as the head of the Romulan invasion force,
we shouldn't worry about them.  I bet even Captain K'vada could beat that
force if Sela were commanding it.  Jolantru.

>
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From: molin@crs.cl.msu.edu (Michael Olin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Short comment on wesley (yuk)
Date: 6 Apr 92 04:56:03 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

white@hawk.uucp (Kevin S. White) writes:

>I would like to see Wesley's entrails fingered.

I thought it was rather refreshing that they didn't give W. Crusher some
fantastic problem to overcome in this episode.  In fact, they trimmed
him back rather well and showed he IS susceptible to making mistakes.

If Riker won't take a captain's position, then the show HAS to have
an upcoming promote-able.  Maybe Crusher will show up in Deep Space?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez)
Subject: Re: 3 in 1 Opinionated Comments (1st season episodes)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 21:15:12 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, College of Engineering
Originator: wombat@coke.eng.umd.edu

In article <1992Apr9.122821@sdd.hp.com> harris@sdd.hp.com (John Harris) writes:

>Agreed.  This is further evidence to me that TOS had better character
>development than TNG (No TOS vs TNG flame war please).  

No flames, I just get a chuckle every time I see this statement.  *What* 
character development?  I honestly can't tell what season of TOS I'm watching
whenever I catch one because the characters *always* act the same, they're
very predictable.  Now, admittably, this is part of TOS's charm.  The 
characters are flat and stagnant, but they're very likeable.  You knew what
to expect from them all the time.  TNG has taken a different and more mature
approach to their characters, *all* of them are different than they were
first season, some overtly so, some subltly.  Data and Worf are the two most
obvious examples, and they're probably the most popular characters because of
it.
-- 
Jose Gonzalez
                       Spock- "In your own way, you are as stubborn as another
                               captain of the Enterprise I once knew."
                       Picard-"Then I'm in good company, sir."
From: asmith@acorn.co.uk (Andy Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: TNG video tapes
Date: 15 Apr 92 08:04:34 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

This is hopefully a simple question. I am collecting the videos of ST*TNG,
which are being released over here (at the rate of three a month). I have
just finished watching number 25, which is the first two episodes of season
three (Evolution and Ensigns of command).

With all of the tapes I have, the picture on the front of the video is a
still from one of the two episodes on the tape, except tape 25, where the
picture on the front is from neither episode.

Does anyone know what episode this picture is from and why tape 25 is
different? Is is just a miss print or am I missing something (other than a
few screws)?

Andy
From: ras@kepler.unh.edu (Robert A Seace)
Subject: Re: Occurance of 18 in ST: TNG
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 01:12:40 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.021113.13720@CS.ORST.EDU> bob@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (robert s. richardson) writes:
>But remember, by an amazing coincidence:  18 * 2.333 (repeating) = 42
>
>Does anyone have a question for this?
>

	How about this:

	What is the average IQ of r.a.s.* posters?

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 - The Restaurant at the End of the Universe

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May your dream "Live long and prosper".

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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: yet another discussion of trek;s peripheral material
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 13:49:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.171412.1@wittenberg.edu> litt@wittenberg.edu writes:
>Scott J Gorcey writes:
>
>NOT FAIR!  Metamorphosis was reallly great!

Not really... it's amazing that it ever got into print.  Gene petitioned
Paramount to have it withdrawn.

> And so was Q in Law!
No argument there.  Although I despise Q and Lwaxana, anything by PAD is 
great.

>Doctor's Orders was a few  years ago, and I have enjoyed alot of TOS since
>then.  Also, wasn't Spock's World after that?  I am sure that The Lost Years
>was.  Anyway, not fair to blast all the books from the last three years or so. 

Doctor's Orders was Duane's last.  And it is fair to "blast all the books",
because very few of them are any good.  Partially this is due to R'Nold,
but most of these people simply can't write.  I wouldn't touch any of these
authors with a ten-foot pole if their books didn't have "STAR TREK" printed
on the cover...

(The exception is, once again, Peter David...  He's got a great book about
what happens when a werewolf bites a wolf and causes it to become a man...)

>Besides, Doctor's Orders was not all that good anyway.

That's R'Nold's fault.  He's the one that forbids "Rihannsu" and 
nonhumanoid crewmembers (Notice that Naraht and the Sulamids were missing?
Duane's always been the best at presenting a racially diverse crew... that
was one of her books' most interesting features.  Unfortunately, R'Nold
decided he could force his prejudices on the rest of us...)

I'm sure DO would have been as good as her earlier books, if she had been
given the freedom to do it right.

-- 
        Real Programmers Don't Eat Quiche.
                      hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
                      Gene Roddenberry 1921-1991
From: KELSEY@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (KELSEY, Michael H.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Why New jersey?
Date: 17 Apr 92 04:52:22 GMT
 <1992Apr8.191104.1@zodiac.rutgers.edu> <29E481DE.3553@noiro.acs.uci.edu>
 <1992Apr13.213711.12719@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
 <HERMIT.92Apr16100345@dastari.uucp>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <HERMIT.92Apr16100345@dastari.uucp>, hermit@dastari.uucp (Mark Buda)
says:
>In article <1992Apr13.213711.12719@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
>crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow) writes:
>>It's been a while, but isn't New Jersey the setting for Bucaroo Bonzi?
>
>Yes.
>
>>Considering that there have been a number of Bucaroo Bonzi jokes in
>>ST:TNG, I wouldn't be surprised if that's why NJ shows up with
>>unusuall frequency.
>
>? Name some Buckaroo Banzai references. I don't remember ever seeing
>any.

Check the dedication plaque.  This is easiest if you have a production-
quality VCR, or access to Starlog photos.  Yoyodyne, Inc. is the prime
contractor for Starfleet.
                                           -- Mike Kelsey

[  My opinions are not endorsed by SLAC, Caltech, or the US government  ]
What is your _name_?    "kelsey@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu"
What is your _quest_?   "To get a Ph.D. in high-energy physics"
When will you _finish_? "I don't know.   Waaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh..."
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From: jmartine@zeus.calpoly.edu (Joe Martinez)
Subject: Re: Troi nude gifs (where?!?)
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 03:28:32 GMT

Ok, I have both gifs ready to go.  Since he can't accomodate any more
requests, I will try and accomodate any requests emailed to me privately.
Just make sure that I am able to send it by replying to your message
(your address doesn't confuse my machine). If you don't recieve them,
oh well.

-Joe

-- 
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"If a man is considered guilty for what goes on in his mind, give me the
 electric chair for all my future crimes."
                                             -Prince       
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From: barker@enel.ucalgary.ca (Scott Barker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Troi nude gifs (where?!?)
Date: 17 Apr 92 15:54:14 GMT
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Apparently, many people are either:
	A) running news readers which do not show the date of a post or,
	B) not very observant

since I continue to get requests now that the Friday, April 10, 1992 deadline
is past. I have no time to satisfy these requests. Perhaps someone else does.

-- 
Thank you for your attention.
==============================================================================
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barker@enel.ucalgary.ca

"If winning is not important, then commander, why keep score?"
   - Worf, Star Trek: The Next Generation
From: jal41820@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Smiley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Occurance of 18 in ST: TNG
Date: 10 Apr 92 21:35:04 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

v122kzkw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (A FROOD WHO SURE KNOWS WHERE HIS TOWEL IS) writes:
:)>>>Hey, in "Cause and Effect", it was *36* seconds to a particular critical
:)>>>event.  Twice 18.  :-)
:)>>One of the most frequently used numbers is '4077'.  As Okuda is a M*A*S*H fa
:)>>it can be found on almost every panel or computer display.
:)>Yep--and look!  Adding up the digits in 4077 gives you...18!  :-)
:)Don't forget Deep Space Nine... Nine being half of 18. :^>

Hell, if we're gonna push it that much, Wesley was 18 during, what, the
3rd season?

And let's count the pips on the uniforms of characters appearing in the 
credits:

Picard     4
Riker      3
Crusher    3
Troi       2 (Well, would be if she wore a real uniform.)
Data       2
LaForge    2
Worf       2
------------
Total     18

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From: mbrockma@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt Brockman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Cunning Spock
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:16:33 GMT
Organization: Twin Peaks Sheriff Department

Watch out for Spock when he says "Perhaps you're right" and
puts his hand on your shoulder...

He did this in STII:TWOK to McCoy before he did the mind-transfer
process and enetred the chamber, and in STVI:TUC when he put
the square of velcro (so-and-so Patch) on Kirk's back. 
It must be some half-vulcan thing.

BTW, did the Patch look like velcro to make it appear like
the other velcro patch which holds the white strap over
the shoulder? Or was that something else on his shoulder? (No one else had it)


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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: twiggy@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Mann & Machine, Eve and Data
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:01:22 GMT

I watched Mann & machine last night... and I agree with a few people it does
seem to cash in on the TNG/Data Android theme.  Although one thing did biug
me... this android seem to put Data to shame (emotions, mannerisms), although
she (Eve, the androidette) did start using cliche's just like Data did; all
wrong and too many at a time.  She used ONE contraction.  A few "can nots".  I,
being an ultimate Data fan (and even more so a Lore fan) felt that Eve made
Soong's work look like silly putty.  But then, these are two different shows
and I'm getting nitpicky because I have had no sleep this weekend and because I
feel that Soong androids are the only ones for me. (If I could find one :)

Oh well... just an observation... now returning you back to your regulalry
scheduled spoilers and Weasly bashings...

twiGGy

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twiGGy@av8r.uucp
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From: 440baker@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: re:  book club?
Date: 14 Apr 92 09:46:05 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

I was just curious as to if anybody knows if there is a star trek book club
out there somewhere..  Believe it or not my mom is a trekker and buys them
all i just want to get her a birthday present...
From: jcoper@ccu.umanitoba.ca (D. Joseph Creighton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: STAR TREK SHIPS
Date: 14 Apr 92 04:20:12 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

Excuse the double posting; I failed to notice that the crosspost was to
the same newsgroup and not to r.a.st.tech.  My apologies...
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