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From: liu7@server.uwindsor.ca (LIU  JOSEPH XUEFENG      )
Newsgroups: ont.forsale
Subject: -------------   Computer For Sale  ------------
Keywords: --------------    IBM PS/2     -------------
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:26:19 GMT
Distribution: na


		
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			IBM PS/2 MODEL 30  286
			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	-Intel 80286 CPU RUNNING AT 12.5 MHZ	

	-31MB HARDDRIVE

	-1.44MB FLOPPY DRIVE (3.5")

	-MOUSE

	-14" SUPER VGA color MONITOR

	-COMES WITH:	WP5.1
			HARVARD GRAPHIC 3.0
			WINDOWS 3.0
			AMIPRO 2.0
			etc.

	
	Asking:	CND.$800

	Any offer can be sent to my E-Mail address or call: (519)254-4319

	SALE EXPIRES ON APRIL 28, 1992

Newsgroups: ont.forsale
From: dh158271@alfred.carleton.ca ( dh student 158271)
Subject: OTTAWA: Washer/Dryer for sale
Summary: this baby has to move
Keywords: washer dryer
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: ont
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:58:52 GMT

For sale: 1 McClary Washer/Dryer combination, asking $600.
Transportation negotiable.  If you don't have the cash I'm
willing to trade for electronics (ie: TV/stereo equipment or
computer hardware).
 
This washer and dryer can only be sold as a combination, sorry for
those who want just one, but both have to go.

They are about three years old, but have only been used for one
year, as I've been living in places for the past couple of years
that already have the washer/dryer included.  These machines are
solid, and are in very good condition.

 
Email at dh158271@ccs.carleton.ca.
 
Mark Shepherd (as above)


Newsgroups: ont.forsale
From: mckenzi@bullet.ecf.toronto.edu (MCKENZIE  ROBERT NEIL)
Subject: ***** VANCOUVER --> TORONTO AIRLINE TICKET FOR SALE *****
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: ont.forsale
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 15:01:58 GMT

	   A I R L I N E   T I C K E T   F O R   S A L E

		 Vancouver --> Toronto (one way)
		Travel any time after May 18th/92
		       Female passenger
		      Price $165.00 firm  

	      Please e-mail mckenzi@ecf.utoronto.ca

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From: stetner@bwdlh525.BNR.CA (Douglas Stetner)
Newsgroups: bnr.for-sale,ont.forsale,misc.forsale
Subject: BBQ and Suzuki GS1100E Motorcycle
Keywords: bbq motorcycle
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:17:53 GMT
Reply-To: stetner@bnr.ca
Distribution: ont
Organization: Bell Northern Research


For Sale:

Kenmore  Outdoor gas BBQ with rotisserie (no tank).  3 years
old but used only 2 summers (cannot BBQ in current apartment).

$125.00 or best offer (originally paid about $300)


1983 Suzuki GS1100E Motorcycle
46000Km
Dark blue
small fairing
saddle bags
Shoei Z100 helmet (large)
Spare helmet
Leather chaps, thick leather jacket, leather gloves
Bagman Tank bag (40 liter?? the big one...)
New tires

$1750.00 or best offer

Phone: 613-828-6321

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      stetner@bnr.ca      |  P.O. Box 3511, Stn. C   | (613) 763-8396  (work)
 My opinions are my own.  |  Ottawa, ON, CANADA      | (613) 828-6321  (home)
Newsgroups: ont.forsale
From: mcginn@cu8.crl.aecl.ca
Subject: Re: Gould Oscilliscope for sale!
Organization: AECL Research
Distribution: ont
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:07:58 GMT

I was in contact with a person who had a Gould 15 MHz oscilliscope for
sale. I have since lost both the number and name of this person. The 
person does work for Mitel in Ottawa. I plan to go to Ottawa this weekend
and would like to see the scope. Please contact me ASAP!

Tim McGinn
613-584-3311 ext 3432
mcginn@crl.aecl.ca
Organization: University Of Toronto Computing Services.
Date: Friday, 10 Apr 1992 07:29:02 EDT
From: <MASONS1@vm.utcs.utoronto.ca>
Newsgroups: ont.forsale
Subject: Mac PB 100 2/20 forsale.

Greetings,
  The subject line says it all. I will throw in the docking cable as well. If
interested send a note or contact me at (416)-467-6108 (Roger). Best
offer over $1000.00 takes it home.


                                                                Roger Smith
From: chrisw@chopin..FtCollins.NCR.com (Chris Whitley)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Underweight 1 year old
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:29:54 GMT
Reply-To: chrisw@chopin..FtCollins.NCR.com (Chris Whitley)
Distribution: world
Organization: NCR Microelectronics, Ft. Collins, CO

My 16 month old daughter is also thin, charting at about the
80% in height and only 5-10% in weight.  However, my doctor
seems okay with this because she has ALWAYS fallen about here
on the charts.  My understanding is that significant *changes*
(i.e. a child is in the 50% at 3, 6, and 9 months but drops to
the 10% at 12 months) are something to question. It therefore
 surprises me a bit that your Doctor just 'mentioned'
that your daughter is really underweight...as if it were a 
surprise to him.

Even though my daughter is consistent, the doctor does recommend
that she be given high-fat foods (I can be found many mornings
at 7AM, painstakingly applying cream cheese to her Cheerios!)
He is quick to tell me that we are not trying to 'fatten her up
for market', but that at her size I do need to be conscious of 
her calorie intake.  Thus, veggies always have butter on them,
and no lo-cal foods (like I *try* to eat) are wasted on her.
Fig newtons are also great...a cookie that she loves, and 56 cals
per bar!

(P.S...none of my efforts will take her out of where she wants
to be--the 10th percentile!!  We should all be cursed with being
tall and thin!)  

---------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Whitley            email: Chris.Whitley@FtCollins.NCR.COM
NCR Microelectronics     Phone: (303) 223-5100 ext. 432
2001 Danfield Court        Fax: (303) 226-9556
Ft. Collins, CO  80525
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: judy@locus.com (Judy Leedom Tyrer)
Subject: Re: Daycare
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 20:38:38 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.203608.25965@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> radika@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (kumar.s.narayanan) writes:
>We need some words of wisdom from the netdom on startegies to ease our
>13 month old into the world of daycare. April 1 was his first day at the
>daycare near work (a wonderful palce, in our opinion). Much to our dismay,
>he did not quite appreciate the change of scenary and has been bawling
>his heart out during our absence form the daycare center. Our choices are
>these 1) allow him to ahve alenghty tarnsition. His g`pa is willling to spend
>time with him at the center (and the center permits this) so that he is not
>amidst strangers  or 2) steel our hearts and turn oue backs on him every
>morning. We are in a quandry and any advice would be appreciated. Thanks - Kumar

I would advise a third option, if possible, and that is starting him on 
short days and gradually lengthening them.  Have grandpa stay with him for
a little while and then leave.  Then he can pick him up after a couple of
hours.  Each week, extend the time spent at daycare until, in about 3 weeks,
he's used to being there the whole day as necessary.

Personally, I think it would be cruel to just ignore his cries.  13 mos. is
so very VERY young.


-- 
I finally decided what I want on my tombstone...

	"Here lies Judy Leedom Tyrer.  The world will never see another like 
	 her.  We are undecided on whether this is a good thing or a bad thing."	
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: mwalker@taimyr (Marilyn Walker)
Subject: Re: Trouble Conceiving, or Just Bad Luck?
Organization: /usr/local/lib/rn/organization
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:35:26 GMT

In article <2260@transfer.stratus.com> scooter@hirgon.hw.stratus.com (Scott Jeffrey) writes:
>
>Hi Netters,
>
>	It's been three years since the birth of our first child, and my 
>wife and I decided it was time for number two.  We've been trying to 
>conceive for about 4 months now with no success, and we were wondering
>if we should start worrying about this yet.  Can anyone offer some insight?
>Some data points:
>	-My wife's 38.  Does it become harder to conceive as the years acrue?
>	-She had a rather difficult labor (2 months premature, ~38 hour 
>	labor).
>	-With our son, it seemed like we conceived right away (1st month).
>
>As her clock is ticking, and keeping up with the kids gets harder as the 
>years go on, we feel as though we have to make some hard decisions as to 
>whether to abandon the project or not.  Thanks to anyone who can provide us 
>with some information or personal experiences.
>

YES - it gets harder to conceive as the years go by.  But only four months
of trying is much too early to give up!  Also, there should be no relationship
between a hard labor and infertility.  In any (good) book on pregancy or
fertility, you'll find (depressing) discussions about having babies after
35 and how fertility rates can drop precipitously.  AFter reading all this
and trying to get pregnant for a year, SURPRISE I did, and I know many other
people have shared my experiences.  Even in healthy young couples with no
problems, four months would not be considered any cause for alarm.  However,
with us *older* folks, the books recommend seeking help after four months
of trying.

I wish I could remember some book names for you, but at any bookstore or
library you will find many books on this subject.  First educate yourself,
then have a talk with your doctor, THEN decide what to do.  If waiting
another year for conception is out of the question, then you may have to
make some hard choices, but you're not there yet.

I wish you both the best of luck, and the odds are on your side.

Marilyn Walker
mwalker@taimyr.colorado.edu
From: millman@ursa.UUCP (Phillip Millman)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Expecting Father Books?
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:47:34 GMT
Organization: Bear Stearns, NY

My wife just entered her 2nd Trimester and I was woundering if there are 
any books about fatherhood.  There seems to be a lot of books for mother
but none for fathers.  

This is our first (as I'm sure you guessed).  Any experiences, insights from
fathers would greatly be appreciated.

Phillip


--

Phillip Millman					millman@bear.com

The opinions expressed are those of Phillip Millman and not that of 
Bear Stearns & Co. Inc.  I think it is better that way.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: cmaher@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Cynthia L Maher)
Subject: Re: names
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 12:53:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.061555.16818@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bn985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stephanie Mia Hawkins) writes:
>
>like an earlier poster (taylor marie's mommy), i am a collector
>of names.  anybody care to share their favourite irish girls'
>names?  
>
>stephanie

I am currently starting my sixth month of pregnancy for my third child, and I
am looking for Irish names too!  However, I am looking for boys' names.  If
the baby is a girl, it will either be Shannon Kathleen or Megan Kathleen or
possibly Megan Mackenzie (which I don't think is Irish, but it sounds good).

If anyone knows of some interesting Irish boys' names, please post!  (We do,
of course, have some time to decide!)
From: ahelmers@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: babbling speech delay in 2 1/2 year old
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:53:56 EDT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

In article <char.702670136@rlxdev>, char@modcomp.uucp (Charlotte Noll) writes:
> 
> My 2 1/2 year old son just had his well baby checkup and everything was fine 
> except the pediatrician suggested I have him evaluated for a speech delay.
> He is talking, 3/4 word sentences sometimes and even sings so this really took
> me by surprise.  The ped said that he couldn't understand him and that
> he was still babbling.  He does babble every so often - I can sort of see
> him thinking for the next word as he does it.  We understand him most of the
> time and most of my friends do too - but they have similar aged children.
> My son was 6 weeks premature and he is very physical - jumps tall picnic
> tables with a single bound :-)  He's has had a few ear infections 
> but I think he hears well enough.  I tried whispering his name
> when his back was turned and he looked around to see what I wanted.

Well, for what it's worth...I also have a very active physical son who just
turned 3 (in January) and he didn't say even as much as your son does (i.e. 3/4
word sentences) at your son's age!  I thought he was NEVER going to talk, but
at between 2 3/4 and 3 yrs of age he just blossomed verbally.  And
interestingly, now that he is talking he uses complex sentences, verb tenses,
and pretty major multisyllabic words, easily and with comprehension.

My point here is that in my experience a late talker isn't much of a problem. 
I certainly understand your concern since your pediatrician dealt with it as a
problem, and you hadn't even considered it in that light--that IS alarming for
a parent.
But I wouldn't worry too much, at least for another 6 months-year.

> p.s.  I have a 'funny things they say story'.
>       I got some of that play plastic food from the dollar store and 
>       he was playing with it - pretending he was eating the hot dog
>       and drinking the juice, etc.
>       There was a stick of butter and he held it up and said
>       'cookies taste better'.  I said 'what' and he repeated it.
>       I understood what he said but didn't know what he meant.
>       Then I remembered a commercial around christmas time where somebody 
>       made cookies that didn't taste good and was asked if they were made
>       with butter.  The final part of the commercial was 
>       'cookies taste better with butter'.  I was rolling on the floor :-)
>       My mother said I never watched regular TV programs-only the commercials
>       and my son is the same way.
>       Thank goodness for PBS, VCRs and Thomas the Tank Engine videos. 


Well, obviously he is smart enough and has a good enough memory to recall and
use phrases he has heard--I really doubt your son has a problem (except for a
worry-wort pediatrician).

Ann Helmers

P.S.  Nice to see another post from the S. Florida area, FINALLY!
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: FOLLOWUP: Soon-to-be-Big-Brother-Questions
From: njamal@amherst.edu
Date: 6 Apr 92 10:11:41 GMT
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA.

Since I received so many replies to my question about having my 6-year-
old present at his brothers birth (in less than 6 weeks!), I thought 
I would post on the subject.  The vast majority of the responses I
received (two were the exceptions) were positive and encouraged going
for it.  Two suggestions came through just about all the responses;
1) have some adult there just to take care of my son, in case he needs
to leave if it gets overwhelming for him, if he needs support, etc., and
2) take him to a "sibling" class if offered at the local hospital, or 
familiarize him with the hospital routine myself - i.e., the nursery,
the labor and delivery rooms, etc. so that its not frightening.

I also got suggestions to buy the following book, which is written from
the perspective of the child:  "Mom and Dad and I are Having a Baby!"
by Maryann Malecki, R.N.  Published by Pennypress, Inc., 1100 23rd
Avenue East, Seattle, WA  98112, which can be purchased for $7.95 plus
$1.00 postage and handling.

In our case, we have decided to have Nesim with us during labor and delivery.
A very close friend of ours will be Nesim's "coach" and they are BOTH
registered at our local hospital's "Family Birth" class this week.  So,
we are very excited that we will be able to share this experience (I hope
it all goes well with the VBAC) as a family.

Thanks to all of you who responded, it really helped ME get over my doubts
about the wisdom of doing this.

Nuhad Jamal
njamal@amherst.bitnet

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From: tigger@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Grace Sylvan)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: waterproofing
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:19:41 GMT
Distribution: misc
Organization: Sylvan Associates

Hiya, a while back we were discussing diaper covers, and that chlorine
bleach will trash the waterproofing on all cotton covers. I saved the
message, and now need the product to protect some kitchen chair
upholstry before we put it on.  I didn't notice any followup with the
info on where to get the stuff. I did try to send email, but it's
bouncing :-(

Anyone out there who knows?

> You can re-waterproof them!  We used a product called (I think; I need
> to check this) Z-Pel, made by DuPont.  You put it in the washer with
> the Nikkys and they come out waterproof again.  This works for other
> articles of clothing, too.  We had trouble finding the stuff locally
> and ended up sending away for it.  I'll post the address or phone
> number for that next week.

Thanks!!

-- 
Tigger (Grace Sylvan)                Mom of Katherine Yelena, 2.6 &
tigger@satyr.sylvan.com              Robin Gregory <born 2/28/92>)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"It seems to me that our large goal is to find the ways to help our
children become humane and strong."

             - Dr Haim Ginott quoted by Adele Faber & Elaine Mazlish
From: bweiss@cs.arizona.edu (Beth Weiss)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Baby Question
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:49:29 GMT
Reply-To: bweiss@cs.arizona.edu (Beth Weiss)
Organization: U of Arizona, CS Dept, Tucson

|> mec@acsu.buffalo.edu (Marie E. Copertino) writes:
|> >   I was just wondering... when one is feeding solid food to a 
|> > baby, how do you know when to stop?

I heard once that you stop when one of the two participants starts
crying.

(only 1/2 ;-)

--Beth Weiss
bweiss@cs.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: gayle@disk.uucp (Gayle)
Subject: Re: SIDS as population control?!?!
Organization: Digital Information Systems of KY
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1992 00:31:19 GMT

Renee@cup.portal.com (Renee Linda Roberts) writes:

Renee,         [SORRY FOLKS!]

>My mail to you also is bouncing. I will try a bang address format and see if
>I can send to you that way. I am still asking people to fill out the
>questionnaire, and it would be great if you could!

Hah! So it ISN'T JUST ME!!! Well, I'll answer anything you like. Beats me what 
the problem is with email! Or if you like, you can send to my USSnail - though
net mail is getting that way! Hmmm ... I'm not in California though!

Gayle Vincent
174 Lynnwood Drive Apt 206
Mt Washington Ky 40047

Gayle

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From: joanne@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Joanne Petersen)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:36:08 GMT
Subject: Re: Rain songs
Organization: Hewlett-Packard PAITC Data Center
Newsgroups: misc.kids

"Eentsy-weentsy spider" is a short lullaby that my daughter always loved
(in fact, if we sing it, she'll do the little hand motions..... :-).

The eentsy-weentsy spider went up the waterspout
Down came the rain and washed the spider out
Out came the sun and dried up all the rain
The eentsy-weentsy spider climbed up the spout again. 

(OK, there's not much mention of rain, but still.... :-)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: johnnyb@ims.com (Johnny Battle)
Subject: Irish Lullaby
Organization: Integrated Measurement Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:48:31 GMT

I heard a haunting Irish lullaby on the radio several years
ago and managed to record a small section of it.  Unfortunatly,
I lost even that short recording and remember only the 
following words:
 
     Hush, Oh babe, for the red bee hums,
     the silent twilight falls.
     Eve Ra Phrom,                   (Gaelic name? misspelled)
     the gray Roc comes
     to wrap the world in thrall
     Gloria Grace, my child, my joy,
     my love and heart's desire,
     the cricket sings thy lullaby
     beside the dyeing fire.

I can`t remember the name in line 6, so I put my daughter's
name there, because that's how I sang it to her late at night
in the rocking chair.  

Does anyone know the other verses, or who recorded it, or even
the name of the song.  It`s my favorite, and I would like to
know the other verses.  We just may have another little
squiggler coming down the pipe one of these days, and I would
enjoy adding a few more verses to my evening repertoire.

****************************************************************
Johnny Battle,       father of Asa, almost 12, of the kind heart
                     and mischievous eye; and Gloria Grace,
                     proudly 7 and able to endure Great Tickling
                     without a giggle (up to 5 seconds).
From:  (anothermother)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re:  Headaches
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:22:11 GMT
Distribution: usa


My husband and daughter (5) both have inexplanable headaches.  My husband
was told that it was tension (his neck was really tight during his doctor
visit)...He also saw an optomitrist, eyes were fine!

My daughter was also thoroughly checked by an optomitrist, and everything
was fine with her too.

I have gotten really frustrated with this, and decided not to ask her anymore,
and sure enough the headaches stopped.  I seem to have an instinctive
feeling that headaches are caused by changes in blood sugar levels

The headaches in
both cases seem to occur in the afternoon, prime time for being tired, and
hungry and in my husband's case, grouchy with traffic...I think a pattern has
been set in his case, and I bet after a vacation he'll snap out of it.

See if your child develops a headache pattern.


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From: cschamau@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Connie Schamaun)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: catalog address/800 number request
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:03:52 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

I tried to email this but it kept bouncing...

David Schwantner,			(davids@sdd.hp.com)

Here are some of the addresses/numbers for the catalogs you requested.
I have added some that might also be of interest.

o- The Smart Toys Catalog
	23880 Commerce Park Drive
	Beachwood, OH 44122
	800/238-Toys (238-8697)
	FAX: 216/292-9010


I have had some of these others, but couldn't find them quickly. I'll 
keep looking and send the info when found.

Others of possible interest:

Troll Learn & Play
100 Corporate Drive
Mahwah, NJ 07430
800/247-6106

Back to Basics Toys Games and Hobbies
8802 Monard Drive
Silver Spring, MD 20910 
800/356-5360

Constructive Playthings
1227 East 119th Street
Grandview, MO 64030-1117
800/832-0572

One Step Ahead
P.O. Box 46 (151 S. Pfingsten)
Deerfield, IL 60015
800/274-8440

Music for Little People
Box 1460
Redway, CA 95560
800/346-4445

HearthSong
P.O. Box B
Sebastopol, CA 95473-0601
800/325-2502

I hope these help. Please e-mail your summary to me if you don't
post it. Thanks,
			Connie Schamaun
			Colorado School of Mines
			cschamau@mines.colorado.edu

-- 


					Connie Schamaun
					Colorado School of Mines
From: grs01132@runt.appstate.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Wanted: Ideas on mainstreaming
Date: 12 Apr 92 04:12:58 GMT
Organization: Appalachian State University

I am researching methods to promote peer and/or teacher interaction in 
integrated settings.  My research is geared toward mainstreamed preschools but
I would appreciate ideas for all ages.  

Please send E-mail because I don't read this newsgroup often.  Thanks in 
advance.
-- 
Cecilia Adams     			The only things certain in life are	
<GRS01132@stat.appstat.edu>             death, taxes, and the Duke Blue
<GRS01132@appstat.bitnet>               Devils in March.
Appalachian State University            Sweet Repeat in '92
Academic Computing                      Threepeat in '93
Newsgroups: misc.kids