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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Shuster's rendition
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:06:46 GMT
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/

In <1992Aug22.164144.1769@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> gls@windmill.att.com (Col. G. L. Sicherman) writes:

>In <1992Aug14.205052.18666@tc.fluke.COM>, moriarty@tc.fluke.COM writes:
>> hey: Superman, under its two originators, had a power that didn't last past
>> their run on the book.  ...
>
>Funny -- that's how I feel about the Incredible Hulk.  "Oh no -- it's
>happening again! ... Put down those Hostess Fruit Pies or HULK SMASH!"
>Now that's primal!

Yes, but remember that (in retrospect) Superman was introduced in a culture
that lacked the advanced technology high-sucrose foodstuffs that aided
characters like The Hulk.  (Popeye, after all, was pushing *vegetables*.)

                           "Sex is no substitute for peace of mind."

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From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Subject: Re: Marsume Sirow
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:33:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.195136.7778@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty III) writes:
>In article <Bu0JtK.6It@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Primer) writes:
>>     AS a big fan of Marsume Shirow(appleseed, Dominion,Black Magic) I
>> was thrilled when I saw something about a book of his work
>> coming out in the month of August. Well....August is over,
>> has anyone seen this? It was priced in the 30-40$ range so it wasn't
>> a regular comic.
>1) "Masamune Shirow".  BTW, it's a pseudonym.

Boy, some big fan you are, Ken!  I think you just better sit in the
corner, young man, and think about how big fans should at least be able
to spell the names of people they're big fans of!  8->

>2) The book is INTRON DEPOT, and it is a collection of Shirow's color
>   works.  It is distributed in the US by Dark Horse, but you can save
>   about $10.00 if you order it as an import from Kinokuniya Books or
>   Nikaku Animart, which goes to show just how much are you being
>   ripped off by DH.  BTW, the book is already out.

Nikaku has the book for $35, I believe.  Manga-chan can get it for you
for around $30, including postage, but you'll have to wait for it to
come in from Japan.  $40, while still a rip-off, is not as big of a rip-off
as some people have portrayed it as.  Besides, from all it reports, it's
such a kick-ass artbook it's worth that much 8->.
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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: JEWISH SUPER-HEROES
Followup-To: kogutt@ucsu.colorado.boulder
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:09:45 GMT

As promised here is the list of Jewish super-heroes.  Please e-mail corrections/
additions to me.  DO NOT POST, PLEASE.  This will keep the noise to a  minumum.
(please excuse any erros, my system is expieriencing a major case of lag.)

1)  Shadowcat (Excalibur-MARVEL)
2)  Ragman (DC)
3)  Colosal Lad (LSH-DC)
4)  Seraph (Global Guardians-DC)
5)  The Marvel woman from Israel (last seen in HULK)
6)  The Golem (DC)

I also remarked that Superman is Jewish because his creators("parents") were
Jewish.  This was ment as a sorta joke that a lot of people took seriously.

Anyhow this Is what I remember.  please write me any additions.

---SCAVENGER

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty III)
Subject: Re: Comics as Wall Art (was Re: San Diego Con Horror Story)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:21:02 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.animation

In article <l=dnfx=@lynx.unm.edu>, lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
> 
> Now, does anyone have any tips for framing *cels*?

From what I've seen, the black frame you described is the preferred method.
You'll want to have some solid backing for your cel, probably in a dark
neutral color (medium/dark gray seems to work well).

Maybe someone in rec.arts.animation can give expert advice?

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From: jwtlai@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Jim W "GrimJim" Lai)
Subject: Re: Gaiman's and DC's plans
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:20:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.170954.19414@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Killans - First And Last And Always) writes:
>In article <BtCrzM.E3v@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> jwtlai@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Jim W Lai) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug21.165814.20175@raven.alaska.edu> ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu (Eric J. Olson) writes:
>>>
>>> A Delerium cross-over into Groo?
>>
>>If you want surreal, why not have a Delirium-Shade the Changing Man crossover?
>>
>I *hope* this was just a joke? One of the few things that helps maintain my 
>faith in artistic integrity is the fact that so far Shade has managed to keep
>separate from the mainstream DC Universe. And I hope it stays that way.

I hope you don't think that I somehow have access to the control panel of
Karen Berger's brain or something.

I do have the remote control, actually, but I haven't been able to find a
set of replacement batteries.
From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Excalibur, LEGION, LotDMite
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:48:10 MDT
Distribution: na
Organization: Utah State University

> Okay, so there will be no coherency to this post.  Live with it.
>      Excalibur - Finally the plotlines developed years ago come to fruition.  
> However, I can't beleive *all* those characters will stay dead. (No I *won't* 
> say who.  I'm evil tonight)
	
	Who!?  Mine wont come for a week and I am really perturbed you'd do
this to me.  About you being evil, well anyone that would suggest we cause 
bodily harm to comic whackos has got to be evil, and so its no surprise.

>      LEGION -

and others , sorry but I don't read them... You read TOO MANY Comics Dave!
Judging from all the posts (and yes, I still read yours due to your 
creative .sigs!)
 
>      Dave Van Domelen, direct all flames to wReam, he likes them.

	HEY!  I resemble that remark!!!
						
						wReam...

P.S.  Ok, Go ahead FLAME AWAY!  After all it's been sorta chilly up here
in Utah, lately!   BBB <--Big Bazooka Boy! Bored Beyond Belief!  Anything
but BloodBloodBlood!

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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: Miracleman #23
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 23:08:18 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty III):
>>MM and Mike Moran may share the same mind,

>No, they only share memories...
>
>Their personalities are so different that they think of each other as
>different people.

This is confirmed by the difference between the two versions of Bates.

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From: dv52151@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Axly)
Subject: Re: Sandspawn and Watchspawns
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:53:51 GMT

conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty III) writes:

>Today I'm picking up an issue of SPAWN.  Yes, I know, I'm falling for it.
>But I'm curious to see what impelled Gaiman and Moore to write for SPAWN,
>other than explicit photograps with an inflatable Kitty Pride doll.

It could be that Spawn currently has some of the best art in comics.

Axly


Xref: sparky rec.arts.comics.misc:1764 rec.arts.comics.marketplace:2410
From: bchoeh+@pitt.edu (Brian C Hogue)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Re: Comic Shops in Pittsburgh
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:40:29 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Distribution: pa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


Hi There,

	I've been getting good service from New Dimension Comcs.  They
are located in Cranberry in the Piazza Plaza just north of the Cranberry
Mall and just off of 79.  Phone is 412-776-0433.


			Brian 
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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: CEREBUS: Chess subtleties
Date: 26 Aug 92 01:58:34 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Just as a comment about the Alice chess game -- it makes no sense. Martin
Gardner, in his fine annotated Alice, points out that the moves made by the
pieces would not be ones made by even an entry level chess person (such as
myself or my cat). Not that sane, sensible people have much to do with the
Looking Glass Land anyway, but any deeper analogy besides "life's a game" is
tough to piece together from the story. Certainly not as much as in Cerebus.

-- 
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From: dat@thinkage.on.ca (David Adrien Tanguay)
Subject: Re: Sandspawn and Watchspawns
Organization: Thinkage, Ltd.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:22:20 GMT

conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty III) writes:
>Today I'm picking up an issue of SPAWN.  Yes, I know, I'm falling for it.
>But I'm curious to see what impelled Gaiman and Moore to write for SPAWN,
>other than explicit photograps with an inflatable Kitty Pride doll.

Aren't Spawn and the other Image comics creator owned? G&M may simply be
supporting the principle of Image comics. Same with Sim. Also, they've both
shown that they can invent marvellous possibilities for silly characters:
maybe they see something in Spawn that we don't?

I don't know about SpawnRoach, but, the way things are going, we may be
seeing some RoachSpawn soon.
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From: maguire@copland.jpl.nasa.gov (Kevin Maguire)
Subject: Re: Speculation and the market (was: Valiant sucks)
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:43:18 GMT

In article <82hn_jk@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>jcomeau@unixg.ubc.ca (Joe Comeau) writes:
>
>>> because Diamond often fails to ship books to stores that ordered  less
>>> than 5 copies at a time. 
>>
>> This is not true.  Diamond (I know) and I assume all other dist.  will
>> ship out 1 of any given title 
>
>They claim to, but in practice I typically miss at least half of the books
>I order when I'm the only person in the store who's ordering the book.
>This is true of both Diamond and Capital City-based shops. 


Does anybody use a mail order comic pusher that DOESN'T have this problem?
One who orders things like Dirty Plotte, Drawn and Quarterly, or even the
Spirit in large enough quantities that this type of thing doesn't happen
all the time?

I still have Taboo 5 on my "late - not in yet" list, and Taboo 6 just joined 
it.

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From: hunter@cse.uta.edu (David Hunter)
Subject: Re: Comics as entertainmet (was Re: Liefield Throws Tantrum)
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, Univ. of Texas at Arlington
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:04:27 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.015534.5204@cs.rochester.edu> steyn@cs.rochester.edu (Gavin Steyn) writes:
>Just a followup to my last post.
>
>  I'd go so far as to say that to the degree a work of art does not try
>to entertain, and tries only to get across a message, it is not good art.
>Usually when a writer focuses on the message, we end up with cardboard 
>characters, simplistic plots, and some pretty ridiculous dialog to boot.
>  (Examples abound, but everyone probably knows just as many as I do).

The key word in your message is "only".  "Good" art, IMHO, can be
read (or viewed, or whatever) at many different levels.  One-D
art of any sort is boring (to me).  This is why I don't like much
of Marvel's current output: it's all flash and no substance.

(Well, I had to throw that last line in.  This is r.a.comics after
all.)

David Hunter
hunter@cse.uta.edu


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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: How to stop buying the Legion?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:29:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.232438.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu> 11telliott@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Zarathustra) writes:
>I'm in this dilemma- Help me, anyone?
>
>The Legion sucks. How can I stop buying the title, even though it sucks? Can
>anyone rationalize this, so I can finally stop buying the title? A little bit
>of history- I have been buying the title since August of 1974, to now, even
>thru the worst years, namely the Gerry Conway issue, as thru the best, the
>early Paul Levitz years and Cary Bates years. I also have a complete run of the
>Legion, save for Adventure #247. Many thanks, and pax,

I think that if you have a complete run since 1974, you shouldn't break it
just because it sucks right now... you'll regret it later.  For example, I 
used to have every Star Trek novel published.  (about 90-100).  There was
a time when I lost interest, so I stopped buying new ones, and even sold some
of the worst of the older ones.  When I got back into collecting them, I 
had a hole in my collection, which I attempted to repair.  I'm still missing 
a few, such as Time Trap-- although it's mind-numbingly boring, the empty
spot on my shelf really looks bad, and I regret having sold it years ago...

The quality of the magazine will improve, and when it does you'll want to 
collect them again, and it would be a shame to have everything since 1974--
except one or two years.  New comics aren't expensive, and it would be 
cheaper to buy them now than to try to repair a hole in the series years
later.

Of course, if you're on minimum wage, disregard this. ;)

And if you want to show that you dislike that comic, writing to the editor 
might be more effective than reducing their sales figures by $1.75 (?) /month.
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From: albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Team Titans mysterious leader (*SPOILERS*)
Date: 26 Aug 1992 17:59:17 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx


	A person on the GEnie bulletin board spoke to Tom Grummett at
the San Diego Con, and got the name of the mysterious Titans Leader
from the future.

it's.......

SPOILERS


	Danny Chase.
	
	According to Grumment, the Team Titans timeline diverged before 
Danny was killed in Titans Hunt, so that's how he survived in that timeline.
	Note: Danny has
	1> red hair
	2> sooper-powers (the main stumbling block to my choice, Terry Long
being the leader) 
	3> a love for the Titans and their history
	4> enough knowledge of espionage stuff to put together the Team Titans
network

	He's also a fave of Marv Wolfman.  You know, it's a shame that there
are so many glaring errors in the current run of Titans, because the story 
itself isn't so bad.  Most of the problems could be cleared up if they moved it
to 2010 instead of 2001.  Of course, I still have no proof that Lord Chaos 
is powerful enough to take over the Earth, what with:
	1> Superman
	2> Dr Fate
	3> Hal Jordan and Guy Gardner
	
	Plus numerous other beings of equal power ready to kick his demigod
bootie.  That's not to mention the sheer mass of Earth's metahuman and
non-powered heroes (and villains, Chaos doesn't seem to be the type to share).

	It's sooo frustrating to see Titans be so close to what the could be,
but getting bogged down in annoying stuff like that.  I think I know how
Elmo feels when talking about the LSH.


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From: berninge@iron.ecn.purdue.edu (James A Berninger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: HECKLER a Mini-Series?
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:26:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <Btv1tM.Jx6@askinc.ask.COM> robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen) writes:
>Last week, somebody (Enrique C...?) sent me e-mail in response to
>a post.  In it, he said that DC's "The Heckler" is a mini-series.
>
>Nowhere in the book, or in the ads, or on the masthead, does it
>state this, so I asked the manager of the comic store and he 
>said it is definitely NOT a mini-series (gawd, I hate asking clerks
>at comix stores questions...feel like Super-Fanboy).  Anyway,he's
>been wrong before, too...so can anyone clear this up? 

Two suggestions:

1) Look for subscription info in the indicia (text under page 1).
2) Look for "Heckler" in the subscription ad.

DC doesn't offer subscriptions for limited series.

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From: vnend@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (D. W. James)
Subject: Re: CEREBUS: chess (spoilers)
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:11:38 GMT

In article <BtF8yn.Jxt@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> kieran@cmatter.physics.indiana.edu (kieran) writes:
)     I mentioned this to Sim when I saw him in Bloomington, and he didn't
)say too much.  He did say that Bran died for a good reason though.  (I 
)asked him why he threw away a rather interesting and intelligent character.
)It seemed a bit of a waste.)   He said he that he was writing the explanation
)just the night before...
)                   Kieran Mullen

	That's right, Bran died in Cerebus's presence as well.  Sounds
like we need a list of folks who have and weren't killed by Cerebus or
other combat type stuff...

Vnend

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From: saab@ais.org (Micheal Marks)
Subject: Re: Shooter LEFT?!? A Question...
Organization: UMCC
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 04:08:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.191917.17214@stsci.edu> wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan) writes:
>>  Man, I'm sorry I started all this.  I meant Shooter left Valiant. 
>>Sorry, no time warp here!  Don't bother telling me anything remotely
>>useful (like why), 'cause I already found it out on my own.
 
Well, I seem to have done a boo-boo.  I thought it obvious what the
thread was going to start, the life and times of Jim 
Shooter.  I guess not.  I have better things to do than to insult
people, so if I did, I'm sorry.  As to why Shooter left, there has 
been no more than vague details.  So no one would've been able to 
tell you more than the "official" comments anyways.
 
The dirt, however...
 
Oh, and that Mario Bros. is still $10.  I haven't heard anyone paying that
yet, tho.
>
>SHOOTER LEFT VALIANT!!!?!?!?!
 
NO!  JIM, COME BACK!
>
>-- 
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: Superman to Die?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:46:35 GMT

According to Previews Magazine, the supes titles will not be cancelled, and 
there will be a 8 part "funeral" storyline, sort of an aftermath.  A hiatus is 
possible, but not likely accd to interviews with the staff.
     Why would Lex want superheroes?  Better to ask why he would want a large 
group of superhuman beings working for him and close at hand for subtle 
manipulation.
     Dave Van Domelen, you can stop sending me summaries now
From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: What do these people do ..... ?
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:35:15 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Howard Cheng (hcheng@Auspex.COM) wrote:
:  I think the letterer 
: also decides where to put emphasis (e.g., We MUST go to the STORE!  I am 
: COMPLETELY out of MILK.).

I believe this is done by the writer, or it's an 'it depends'
situation. I've seen a script with the emphasis already included.

I think how the comic is made depends greatly on the people making
it. 

There is a 'Marvel Style' -- the plot is developed by *someone*, usually
the writer, then the artist draws the story. Afterwards, the writer
or dialogue writer if the plotter isn'tthe writer, comes back and
writes the dialogue for the baloons. The script may be broad page-by-page
breakdowns of the action, or even just a story.

Other writers -- Paul Levitz of the Legion (formerly) is one -- do a
*full script* in which every page and every word is mapped out and 
then the script is given to the artist to draw.

Pencil art comes in different varieties -- full pencil art and 
rough breakdowns. And anywhere in between. Sometimes one pencil
artist does very rough sketches and passes it to someone else to do 
detailed drawings, or the inker makes up a lot of what is left out.
Inkers can 'embellish' -- ie complete the level of details not supplied
by the pencil artist. Tom Palmer of the Avengers embellished. He and
John Buscema made an *incredible* art team. Buscema is an unbelieveable
technical artist, and Palmer does such great ink details. Tom now tries
to salvage the incredibly bad pencils the artists on the avengers produce.

A really good inker like Palmer can salvage a bad artist sometimes.
But look at some of the fill-in wonders on Wolverine -- the inks really
reek, and so does the pencil art.

Some artists do it all like John Byrne -- ink, write, and draw.

Scott
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