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From: dominimj@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Michael J Dominick)
Subject: Re: Jeremy (was: Pearl Jam vs. Temple of the Dog)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:23:18 GMT


In article <1992Sep10.223057.2273@news.nd.edu>  
pmadden@grumpy.helios.nd.edu (patrick madden) writes:
> In article <1992Sep10.182440.13743@udel.edu>, gallo@almira.asel.udel.edu  
(Andy Gallo) writes:
> |> In article <1992Sep10.064011.29847@sharebase.com>  
gregs@zeppelin.sharebase.com (Greg Schroeder) writes:
> |> >by the way, i have seldom seen a video as moving as jeremy.  the
> |> >lyrics suddenly clicked when i saw that.  "try to forget this, try  
to
> |> >erase this from the blackboard.."  wow.  i realized just how heavy
> |> >that song was.
> |> 
> |> 	I agree totally.  The video is striking.  It really touches
> |> that subject of "are personalities born or made", is it in the genes
> |> or is it the environment?  If the latter, then what does a psychotic
> |> who walks into a McDonalds (or into a classroom) and starts killing
> |> randomly say about our society?  There's a line in there about how  
"we
> |> unleashed a lion" in Jeremy.  
> |> 	The delivery that the Pearl Jam lead singer gives fits so
> |> perfectly.  I wonder if HE is a Jeremy himself...
> |> 
> Sorry if I missed a big discussion of this video while I was home for  
the 
> summer, but...
> 
> From what you've written it seems like you think Jeremy killed some of  
his
> classmates.  What I see is that he killed himself and the blood  
splattered
> on the others.  Watch Eddie Vedder raise his gun-shaped hand to his head
> as if to shoot himself.  Similar to the Unplugged "State of Love and  
Trust"
> where he puts the gun into his mouth ("and the barrel weighs the trigger
> shakes aimed right at my head, won't you help me?  help me from  
myself?")
> What are the opinions out there?
> 
> Pat
> pmadden@grumpy.helios.nd.edu

	Agreed, the way the video was portrayed Jeremy only shoe himself  
and that was his blood on the classmates...

					Waiting for the Ryche,
						MJD
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From: jennyb@triton.unm.edu (Jenny Ballmann)
Subject: Re: Separated at birth?  =)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 20:16:53 GMT
Organization: UNM Janitorial Staff

In article <1992Sep7.173441.17580@dg-rtp.dg.com> cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy) writes:
>shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum) writes: 
>| In article <1992Sep3.235658.13088@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> scarruth@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kai'ckul) writes:
>| >
>| >Anyone else notice just how much rock star Tom Cochrane looks
>| >like Ruben Kincaid from the Partridge Family?
>| 
>| Ok, how about Billy Ray Cyrus and Crush of WWF fame?
>| OThers?
>
>Mick Jagger and Don Knotts.
>
Fred Schneider and Bill Clinton

Jenny
-- 
"We can all perceive the difference between ourselves and our inferiors,
but when it comes to a question of the difference between ourselves and
our superiors, we fail to appreciate merits of which we have no proper
conceptions."  -James Fenimore Cooper, _An American Democrat_
From: tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Robert Oliver)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Police Reunion
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 23:08:01 EDT
Organization: Ailanthus Project

mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen) writes:

> In article <Bu0oC1.JIw@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> georgen@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (G.
> >In article <1992Sep3.150010.4371@rick.dgbt.doc.ca> chrisc@debra.dgbt.doc.ca 
> >[stuff deleted]
> >>new album... hm, does anyone know where Andy and Stewart are right
> >>now?
> >
> >I think Stewart Copeland is (was?) with a band called "Animal Logic".
> >I saw a video from one of their songs on a music show recently (probably a
> >rerun), and it sounded really nice.  I'm thinking of purchasing their CD
> >but I haven't heard much of anything else off of it.  Can anyone give any
> >comments as to the music on it?
> >thanx
> >-- 
> >georgen@resunix.ri.sickkids.on.ca	(NeXTMail ok)
> >molecular genetics, hospital for sick children
> 
> The only comment I can make is that "Animal Logic" is (was?) Stanley Clarke
> (fusion/jazz/other bassist), Stewart Copeland, and a (relatively) unknown
> female singer.  That's right, bass, drums, vocals.  I never heard them live
> or recorded, but I hold both Stanley and Stewart in great esteem, based on
> the times I have seen them live (with other groups or, in Stan's case,
> many times solo) or heard their work recorded.
> 
> I have heard negative reviews of their (Animal Logic) work, and not to many
> glowing reviews.  But then, what are reviews?  Somebody else's HO.
> 
> Michael Breen
> singing and philosophizing
> (and hoping the Police reunion does happen)

I read an article in a magazine a few months ago that confirmed that 
Animal Logic is history, but said that Stewart and Stanley were going to 
continue working with each other.
Xref: sparky rec.music.misc:23387 alt.music.progressive:2426
From: ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (  179  Peter Thelen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Renaissance's first album?
Date: 15 Sep 92 06:56:18 GMT
Reply-To: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <e2mJ02PM21j001@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com writes:
>In article <1992Sep14.140951.13262@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> kalang@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (kenneth.lang) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep14.032551.977@bradley.bradley.edu> pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes:
>>>In <92091111615@zone4.ocunix.on.ca> peter@zone4.ocunix.on.ca (Peter Dubiel) writes:
>>>>With all this talk about Renaissance....                               thread,

>Stairway (essentially the core of the original renaissance lineup) has
>released two cassettes to my knowledge: _Aquamarine_ and _Moonstone_.
>All of the _Moonstone_ cassette and the best tracks from _Aquamarine_ were
>released as a CD a few years ago on the New World Company label in the UK.
>Eurock carried this one, as well as a third ILLUSION CD of outtakes and
>demos titled _Enchanted Caress_.

There is one additional Stairway release _Songs Of The Heart_. I don't
know the year, but judging by the catalog number (also on New World) it
appears to be the newest of the three. I don't know if Jane Relf was
featured on it either. Keep in mind these Stairway albums are fairly
new-agey stuff...

>peter (ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com)  "The Lighthouse Keeper"
>
>
From: slf@netcom.com (Sharon Fisher)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Bruce Hornsby & the Range
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:15:55 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

korrusj@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu (Russ Korins) writes:

>In article <1992Sep10.160934.6653@iscsvax.uni.edu>,
>luebke5317@iscsvax.uni.edu (Phil Luebke) wrote:
>> 
>> I heard there is to be a new Bruce Hornsby album coming out in less than a
>> month. Anyone have any info.?  Does Bruce ever make it through the midwest on
>> tour (esp. Iowa)? Please e-mail me.

>That would be nice!  However, I get the Bruce Hornsby newsletter and I
>still haven't received any info about the new album.  While they 
>promised it sometime in 1992, they never set a date, and I haven't	
>seen any info about it in record stores that post release dates
>of upcoming albums.

Last I heard, he was taking a year off, which meant he stopped touring
with the Dead as well.

>I'm not sure what's taking him so long.  

For heaven's sake, the guy's wife just had twins.  Give him a break.
He's entitled to have a life.

>His last album came out in
>June of 1990.  I just hope he returns to his The Way It Is-style
>roots and gets out of that pseudo-rock style he tries on Night
>on the Town!
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.newage,rec.music.cd
From: dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu (Derek Langsford)
Subject: Re: Mike Oldfield's INCANTATIONS: full version on CD
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:03:24 GMT

gandalf@diku.dk (Morten Due J|rgensen) writes:
> rvloon@cv.ruu.nl (Ronald van Loon) writes:
> 
> >Hi.
> 
> >A friend of mine and I are looking for the number of the CD of the full
> >version of INCANTATIONS by Mike Oldfield. Note that there are TWO versions out
> >on CD, the first release had about 4 mins cutout, the second release didn't.
> >In order to order however, we need the number and label (probably Virgin) of
> >the latter. If you have it, please e-mail it to me. Thanks a million.
> >-- 
> >Ronald van Loon (rvloon@cv.ruu.nl) 3DCV Group, Utrecht, The Netherlands.
> 
> >"I believe the word you are looking for is "AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHH!"
> >    - The Penguin (Batman ][)
> 
> 
> I am afraid the record number is the same on the two (I have both).
> However, there might be a different number on the inner ring on the CD.
> I will have to get back to you on this tomorrow, (have to go home and check
> it first.)
> 
> Anyway, I have the impression, that the version sold now IS the full version.
> I found the first full version in the spring, and since then I have not
> seen the cut version in the stores (in Copenhagen that is.) But I can
> understand if you want to make sure ....
> 

Dang, I had been waiting for this for a long long time and finnaly gave up
earlier this year.  I got a Japanese copy with the full version on it.  
Also the US release on Caroline has the full version.  

The last edition of the edited UK disc I saw was mastered and pressed by
Nimbus UK. If the full length disc is pressed by Nimbus UK you should be 
able to tell by the number of dots that appear after the catalogue number
that is imprinted in the disc at the inner part of the CD itself.  The
number of dots indicates the pressing run.  The newer full length disc
should have more dots than the older edited disc.  

Also the timing for Part 3 should be approx 17 mins instead of the edited
13+ mins.  As the older UK disc listed the times, the presence of 17 mins
for Part 3 would indicate the full version.

I hope this helps.

Derek


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Derek H. Langsford                                            Dept. of Biology 
dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu                           San Diego State University 
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From: aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey)
Subject: Paranoia
Reply-To: aaron@space.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:35:32 GMT

I've been wondering lately--is there a band out there called Paranoia?

You see, I've been writing a few stories about a band so named, and was
wondering if there was anyone out there to be offended by it.  It's probably
a reasonable enough name for a band--I can almost picture their sound, just
from the name--but I don't personally know a band by that name.  (I thought I
did, for a while, but that was Propaganda.)

Anybody know anything?  (If nobody does, then I'll presume there ain't one.  If
there is one, and it matches exactly the one I've been writing about, then I'm
psychic.)

--
---Alfvaen(Canadian SF Quasi-Activist)
"You better hope and pray that you're gonna awake
 Back in your own world..."  ---Shakespear's Sister
Current Album--Steve Martin:Let's Get Small
Current Read--Robert Heinlein:The Past Through Tomorrow
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: (C)Rap "music"
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:47:31 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <16863D21A.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu> EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
|In article <14616@auspex-gw.auspex.com>
|johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
| 
|>In article <92258.165516X42529@BARILVM.BITNET> X42529@BARILVM.BITNET (Shlomo) writes:
|>|with attitudes like yours, what's to discuss? maybe you mean DIS-CUSS =
|>| DIS - what you're trying to do.
|>| CUSS - what people with half a mind are doing to you.
|>
|>There's another thing,  inventing words like "dis" and then using them
|>in everyday language.
| 
|"Dis" is in the new OED. I guess that makes it a "real" word.
|Common useage has no merit on the net! ;-)
  
OK, It's also in the Webster's Ninth Collegiate dictionary but as Inigo
Montoya said, "You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you
think it means."  Nice tap dance, though.

|>If rap music was based more on talent and less
|>on image it would be more legitimate.
| 
|More legitimate? Is that like "more pregnant"? :-)
  
Another tap dance.  Can you rebut the claim that much of rap music is based 
more on image than talent?  Or at least, that image plays a signicant role
on the success of a rap artist?

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira     | Auspex Systems | "Auspex does not share my opinions.  |
| johnf@auspex.com | Santa Clara CA |  So Why am I still working here?"    |
+==========================================================================+
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: GnR <Missing Songs?>
Keywords: gnr
Date: 10 Sep 92 12:43:16 GMT
Reply-To: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Sep9.161021.871@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> csc2110136@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
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Take it to rec.music.industrial, will ya?




-- 
Ray Shea			"Them New Agers will buy anything if
UniSQL, Inc.			 you tell 'em it's from Bali."
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu		-- Eric the Bondo Fish Man
DoD #0372, '88 Hawk NT650
From: tahonen@katk.Helsinki.FI (Timo Ahonen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: The Smiths - Not Quite Best; and other rip-offs
Date: 11 Sep 92 11:50:57 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki, Computing Centre

In article <6400@otc.otca.oz> brendan@otc.otca.oz (Brendan Jones) writes:

>Saw a new release in the shops yesterday.  "The Smiths ... Best".  What looked
>to be a great buy turned to disbelief when I had a look at the track listing.

>Not only does this CD contain about half of "Hatful of Hollow", it has NOTHING
>from "The Queen Is Dead".  You've got to be kidding!!

>I would have thought a Smiths Best Of compilation could have a swag of really
>great tracks.  I only have "Hatful Of Hollow", so for me not only is this CD
>far from "...Best" it has only gone about halfway and left me with a coitus
>interruptus feeling.  I put it back on the shelf.

>Rough Trade, what on earth are you doing??

Rip-off, that's what I'd call it. If you look carefully, you'll notice that 
the album is actually called "Best... 1". "Best... 2" is about to follow 
later, and I remember vaguely that I even saw the track listing of the 
second album somewhere in the CD booklet of the first collection. This way 
you'll end up buying TWO full-priced CDs instead of one double-CD which 
wouldn't have been as expensive (for you, that is; profitable for the record 
company, of course).

The same kind of logic can be found in the present trend of releasing CD 
singles in two parts: the first with a "special collection box that fits 
also the soon-to-be-released part two of the single". Most of the times both 
of the singles, of course, include the same title track, although the first 
one sometimes is an "edited version" and the second the "full-length 
version". Arrgghh...! Almost makes me go mental...

Timo Ahonen               *  To do is to be              - Socrates  *
University of Helsinki    *  To be is to do              - Sartre    *
Finland                   *  Do be do be do              - Sinatra   *
Timo.Ahonen@Helsinki.FI   *  Be do do be do do be do do  - Silencers *
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From: ehrhart@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jeffrey Ehrhart)
Subject: Re: Micheal Penn's Latest
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 20:18:58 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <1992Sep9.143712.29465@cs.rose-hulman.edu>, podmorjl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jonathan L Podmore) writes:
|> Distribution: world
|> 
|> I was just wondering when the new Micheal Penn ablum is due out. I remember  
|> hearing a DJ back home saying that it was due out either this week or next.  
|> If someone knows could they write me. Thanks  a lot
  The album is due out soon.  His new video premieres this week on MTV.

-- 
Jeff Ehrhart
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From:  (jmhodapp@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu)
Subject: 2 Quick Rolling Stones Questions, your help needed!
Organization: master/peon
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 13:17:04 GMT

In the sond Sympathy For the Devil, I am aware of all of the historical incidents
alluded to, except for "I laid tracks for Trubadors, who get killed before 
they reached Bombay."  What is this refering to?

Also, the background singers are singing Ooo ooo, or is it Woo woo?
Anyone know, or have a way of finding out?  Berke Breathed often had 
Ooo Ooo in the background of Bloom County, and I always thought he was
refering to the Stones.  Thanks for any help in advance.

Jon jmhodapp@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu
=======--=-=-++_+_+_=-=-=-=-=_+_+_
May you live in interesting times.

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From: sylve_ge@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Gerald Sylvester)
Subject: Re: Tropea (S. Gadd, L. Fast/Synergy, Will Lee)
Keywords: Synergy,Lee,Gadd,Marotta,etc.
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 19:34:21 GMT

>Let me guess. It's on the CTI label.  Tropea, along with Will Lee, Gadd
>and many other session musicians did a lot of work on CTI.  You could 
>almost pick up any CTI record and find Gadd or Lee or one of several other
>session musicians on it.  

Actually, if you pick up any album from '75 to '78, you will find Gadd
played on it.  8-)   About half the time I hear an album from that time 
period, I notice or at least find out that it was Gadd.  Recently my friend
put on a song from [hold your breath] the 'Saturday Night Fever' sound
track and it was Gadd playing with the Bee Gees.  I wouldn't exactly say
it was great, great music but Gadd's feel is definitely something to listen
to in any context.


I saw a Richard Tee show in NYC two years ago featuring Gadd on drums,
Tropea on guitar, Ralph McDonald (another BIG studio musician), Will
Lee on bass, and Tee on keyboards.  A few people I spoke to were fairly
familiar with John Tropea (I am actually very surprised someone has mentioned
his name on USENET) and they were reeling off all these albums he has played
on.  I wish I rememeber the name of the album but these guys said that
it had an absolutely incredible guitar solo from Tropea.  I believe the
album featured Billy Cobham.  I also think they said it was a double album.
Anyone know what album this is?  Also, what other albums has Tropea played
on?  These guys said that Tropea is really, really big on jingles and
movie scripts right now.

Gerald Sylvester

Xref: sparky rec.music.misc:22800 alt.rock-n-roll:15584 rec.music.folk:6079
From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.folk
Subject: UAP #20 - Results for Steeleye Span
Keywords: Usenet Artists Polls
Date: 6 Sep 92 15:17:48 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB

The first poll for the season didn't attract not many voters, then
again Steeleye Span is not a group with a huge audience, so the
outcome is no big disappointment. My thanks to those who voted.
Next poll is Billy Joel, see separate article in r.m.misc and
alt.r-n-r.

Total number of ballots: 19

     TITLE                     POINTS   LISTED   FIRST   LAST
     =====                     ======   ======   =====   ====
  1. Below The Salt               791       19    4.50      0
  2. Parcel Of Rogues             774       19       3      0
  3. Hark! The Village Wait       714       16       2      0
  4. Commoner's Crown             687       16       4   0.50
  5. Ten Man Mop...               602       17       2      0
  6. Please To See The King       586       19       1      0
  7. The Best Of Steeleye Span    575        3       0      0
  8. Live At Last                 473       13    1.50   0.25
  9. Rocket Cottage               429       14       0      2
 10. Now We Are Six               416       16       0      1
 11. All Around My Hat            413       19       0   1.75
 12. Tempted And Tried            412       12       1      2
 13. Original Masters             347        3       0      0
 14. Storm Force Ten              302       15       0   3.25
 15. Sails Of Silver              166       13       0   3.25
 16. Back In Line                  99       12       0      5

When I sent out the call for this polls, I thought for myself:
"This will be a clear verdict, 'Parcel of Rogues" will win this
without discussion". As the ballots floated in, I soon realized
I was wrong, as "Commoner's Crown" seemed to top most several 
bills. And since I find this album to be one of the paler Span 
albums, I thought the same story again; my preferences being 
different from the rest.

But when I finally compile the result it's "Below the Salt" which
takes the longest straw, and while "Parcel..." is my undisputed
favourite, this is an result which is fully acceptable to me.
"Below the Salt" is a fine album.

I guess which Span album you favour, depends from where you come.
People from the rock camp like me who want something speactcular
should definitely try "Parcel of Rogues". But I can understand if
you are more of a folk junkie that albums like "Commoner's Crown" 
is more pleasant.

Looking at the end of the list, there is no surprise that "Sails
of Silver" and "Back in Line" come last, as they are utterly
uninteresting. But I am a little puzzled that "Storm Force Ten"
didn't make it better. If nothing else, this one has "Seventeen
Come Sunday", which is a brilliant happy tune. (Seduction of
the young included. Or is the young the seducer?)
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
"Recreation of source code from design documentation can be costly"
IEEE Std 1042/1987
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: boyd@psych.toronto.edu (Boyd Blackburn)
Subject: House of Love
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 23:40:09 GMT

I've heard "Who By Fire" and "Marble" by this House of Love and really
like their sound.  I want to go buy a CD.  Anybody out there have any
recommendations and/or more info about this band.  Thanks.


-- 
A. Boyd Blackburn                 boyd@psych.toronto.edu
Department of Psychology            
University of Toronto             office: (416) 978-8810

Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rave
From: mcelwee@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au (Bennett)
Subject: Re: Orbital EP question
Organization: Disorganization
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 23:42:08 GMT

dennis@citr.uq.oz.au (Dennis Remmer) writes:

>Anybody wanna have a crack at compiling an Orbital discography.
>I for one would be most grateful. I'd do it myself, but I don't have enough
>material to do it justice.

I don't have everything of theirs, but I do have a lot...if anyone out there
has any Orbital records, send me the details and if I receive enough info I
will compile a discography.  I am especially interested in vinyl, since I
don't own much Orbital vinyl.  Also the US release of their album.

Get those details rolling in!

(P.S. "details" = title, artist :), country, label, catalog number,
tracklist, times, shoe size, etc...)

-- 
== Bennett ================================== mcelwee@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au ==
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