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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: The Deserving Heisman?
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:13:32 GMT
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In <Brqyv1.3p8@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu writes:

> lavelle@aardvark.lerc.nasa.gov () writes:
> 
> >In article <Brqprw.Dw@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson) writes:
> >>thartman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Timothy J Hartman) writes:
> >>
> >>>catch.  Then, in the 1988 Cotton Bowl, he went after a Texas A&M player 
> >>>for grabbing his towel off his uniform.  Definitely not the epitome of a 
> >>>Heisman
> >>
> >>What was better about that game was that a bunch of non-scholorship players,
> >>i.e. the 12th man kickoff team, kept Tim in check as good as any team had
> >>all year.
> 
> >I am definitely not a hard core Notre Dame fan, but...  If i remember
> >correctly that towel was specially made for him by a friend for the game.
> >I believe that one of those non-scholarship yahoos was taking a real
> >cheap shot by tring to grap the towel.  Now that is the epitome of
> >unsportsman like play.  Will someone from Notre Dame more familiar with
> >the incident please respond to clear up the story before i get
> >flamed beyond belief

  Here is what I saw and also heard about the "towel incident" (which, BTW
should have no bearing on how people voted for the Heismann, since it happened
after the voting anyway).  Brown runs a kickoff back and is buried by the 
12th Man.  Several players get up and start to jog away, obviously in high
spirits.  Suddenly Brown gets up and tackles them from behind.  Large dis-
turbance follows.

  What I heard was this:  the 12th Man player grabbed Brown's towel, which
happened to have some sort of sentimental value--I was unaware of this at the
time, and I assume the 12 Man player was also--and Tim got ticked and went
after him (or at least the towel).

  IMO, neither party has anything to be proud of.  Both acts were pretty 
childish, although I think Brown's response was more serious, as the incident 
could have escalated into a brawl.

semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: SCHMIDT@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jon Schmidt)
Subject: Re: Uniforms (was Re: ND lovers / haters)
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:18:31 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.172621.17451@usho93.hou281.chevron.com>
hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde) writes:
>
>The white jersey is to the Tiger fan what it is to the Dallas Cowboy
>fan.  However, I believe the SEC passed a rule within the last couple of
>years (SEC gurus insert more data where necessary) making it
>mandatory for home SEC teams to wear the DARK colors and visitors to
>wear WHITE.
>
>More stellar stupidity from the SEC gods.
>
>This rule may no longer be in effect, given the ruckus it
>caused on a few SEC homefronts like LSU's.
>
>James Clyde     LSU '91
 
I'm not an SEC guru, but that doesn't matter because the rule mandating
white jerseys for visiting teams is not an SEC rule.  It is an NCAA
football rule implemented in 1983.  It is still in effect:
 
Rule 1-4-3 Contrasting Colors
a. Players of opposing teams shall wear jerseys of contrasting colors,
   and the visiting team shall wear white jerseys.  Players of a team
   shall wear the same color jerseys.
b. A white jersey is one with only contrasting playing numbers, player's
   name, conference, school, game or memorial insignia attached.
   Traditional institutional markings may be placed on the sleeves
   and/or shoulders.  Jersey number colors shall be in sharp contrast to
   jersey colors.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com (Robert Day)
Subject: Re: Beat by Notre Dame (and not on the field)
Organization: control_centers
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:03:00 GMT

Mike Noonan writes:

>Has anybody heard where Rocket & the Missile's brother, the Bomb, is
>going to attend?  Rocket has said publicly that the Bomb (I can't
>recall his name.) is much more talented than either of them.

I don't know where he's going to school, but I'm pretty
sure his name is Suliman.  Sounds like a good Irish name 
to me :)  I don't think Rocket wanted Qadry (Quadry?) to attend
Notre Dame because he didn't want Qadry to have to live up to 
his (Rocket's) performance levels.  Or might have been so Qadry could
"become his own man."  Anyway, it was something about not going to 
the same school as his big brother.  I don't know if Rocket feels
the same way about Suliman.

Rob

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ravi@alw.nih.gov (Ravi Boddapati)
Subject: I do, but do you..
Organization: National Inst. of Health, DCRT, CSL
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:39:46 GMT

I hate Notre Dame and its football team!  I was wondering howmany others
share the same feelings.  Ofcourse, you don't have to have a valid reason
for hating something or somebody.

So, I have come up with an idea.  Let's make a survey on the net and see
the general feelings towards Notre Dame.

All you have to do is add your name under the appropriate column below.
I would be glad to summarize the results, later.


I hate Notre Dame				I don't
*****************			*********************
Ravi Boddapati - ravi@helix.nih.gov	


No flames please.

-- Ravi

	Ravi Boddapati 			phone: (301) 496 0331 
	Building 12A, Room B57		uucp: uunet!helix!ravi
	National Institutes of Health	Internet: ravi@helix.nih.gov
	Bethesda, MD 20892
From: elrod@ocf.berkeley.edu (Edward L. Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Beer sales at college games
Date: 24 Jul 1992 19:54:58 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: plague-ether.berkeley.edu

Incidentally, at the 1990 Big Game, Stanford Stadium was no longer 
allowing alcohol.

-Ed


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers)
Subject: Re: On-Field College Mascots
Organization: Martin Marietta Western Internal Systems, Technical Operations
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:26:42 GMT

In article <2837@wrdis01.af.mil> demarsee@wrdis01.af.mil (Darryl Marsee) writes:
>tannerg@milton.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:
>>Top Ten Coolest :
>>2. Colorado : Ralphie the Buffalo -- 'nuff said.
>
>Yep ... pretty cool. Of course, isn't he an American Bison, not Buffalo?
>I guess it's too late to change the nickname, but the Colorado Bison
>sounds better to me than the Colorado Buffaloes (as long as the women's
>teams aren't called the Bisonettes!). 

  1. buf.fa.lo \'b*f-*-.lo-\ n or buffalo or buffaloes
     [It bufalo & Sp bu`falo, fr. LL bufalus, alter. of L buba] pl lus,
      fr. Gk boubalos African gazelle, irreg. fr. bous head of cattle
      : any of several wild oxen : as  : WATER BUFFALO  : any of a genus
      (Bison); esp : a large shaggy-maned No. American wild ox (B.
      bison) with short horns and heavy forequarters with a large
      muscular hump

The women's teams are known as the Lady Buffs.  I think I'd prefer
Bisonettes!

And to the poster looking for Nebraska Marty: he's happily reading and
re-reading the Big 8 edition of Athlon's, which predicted a conference
title for the Huskers this year on the strength of their returning
running backs (IBs Derek Brown and Calvin Jones and FB Lance Lewis),
offensive linemen (G Will Shields, C Jim Scott, and T Lance Lundberg),
and linebackers.  I guess they think Dr. Tom will somehow find a way for
them to avoid CU's awesome front 7 -- The Real Black Shirts!

Of course, only the 5th-year seniors in Lincoln have ever witnessed a
Nebraska victory over Colorado, watching as freshmen when NU won 7-0 in
'88.  And how Athlon's picked them over CU after the Buffs have
out-recruited them 3 years running -- ranking them #3 vs. #15 nationally
this year -- is beyond me.  Even with hot-shot QB recruit Tommie Frazier
from Bradenton, the Huskers were ranked 3rd in the conference, behind OU
as well.
-- 
Kevin Rodgers				kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com
Martin Marietta MS A16401		(303) 790-3971
116 Inverness Dr. East
Englewood CO 80112 USA			GO BUFFS!
From: fulton@oasys.dt.navy.mil (John Fulton)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: WVU Quarterback
Date: 22 Jul 92 11:58:15 GMT
Reply-To: fulton@oasys.dt.navy.mil (John Fulton)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

Does anybody have any info on West Virginia's quarterback situation?
 I heard Kelchner is playing really well anf will probably get the starting
nod.  Can anybody confirm or deny this.
From: rszczerb@tolstoy.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Quadry Ismail
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:08:53 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame


Does anyone have any stats on Quadry Ismail over
the last couple years?  Also, does anyone know
where his brother, "The Bomb" is.
  

	- Rob
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: Re: ND lovers / haters
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:36:57 GMT

Peter Reiher writes:

(in re: Dan Devine)

>I was sorry when they didn't renew his contract.

My understanding was that Devine decided to end his stay at Notre dame to be 
able to spend more time with his wife whose health was failing.

     - Pat
.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: rszczerb@purcell.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Subject: Re: ND lovers / haters
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 16:47:24 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.034619.1684@ncsu.edu> jvbutera@grad00.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera) writes:
>In article <1992Jul24.210704.2914@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming) writes:
>>Jeff Thompson writes:
>>
>>>ND is indeed a FFF which is a DAME shame since it is a CATHOLIC SCHOOL.
>>>Please do not take this as a racial view but how does someone name ISHMAIL
>>>(or something like that) end up at a CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY?  Not to mention
>>>all the black atheletes that go there?  I'm not saying that there is
>>>anything wrong with black Catholics, but shouldn't you be Catholic, or at
>>>least be in the true process of converting to Catholicism?
>>
>
>To an ignorant Jeff Thompson:
>
I thought that this was a fairly obvious issue.  You do NOT
have to be a Catholic to go to Notre Dame, Villinova, or
even Boston College.  You don't have to be a Protestant to
go to Syracuse either.  And ... believe it or not ... you
don't even have to be a Boilermaker to go to Purdue.  

I really can't belive some of the boneheaded comments
that some people make.   :)


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: acdendy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Subject: Re: nicknames revisited
Summary: a question....
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: offensive nicknames
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 21 Jul 1992 16:19 EST  

In article <BrMIDw.8wK@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tpe36878@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Who are you to ask? ) writes...
>Hello to all:
> 
>	I am a student at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.
>Our football tradition is the Fighting Illini and Chief Illiniwek. Both of
>these terms come from the now extinct (due to a war with the Blackhawk 
>Indians) Illini tribe.
>	Many people here (and at certain oregon newspapers) claim that our
>Chief Illiniwek is a disrespect to the Indian community and "in general,
>all people of color." We believe that the Chief is one of the many
>traditions that sets our university apart from the rest. For instance, at
>half-time, the MI do the "three-in-one", a tradition unchanged and
>performed at every football game since field marching was invented here
>in the 1920's.
>	My question is two-fold. First of all, does anyone know of any other
>schools who have an entire tribe as the namesake of its sports teams and
>has a respectful representation (authentic dress and dance) during its 
>sporting events? I know that Florida State is of course the Seminoles, but
>I was not convinced as to the authenticity of their "chief" or whatever he was
>and his half-time performance.

The other that comes to my mind is the Utah Utes.  I remember a certain 
writer for the sports section of a certain student newspaper getting in hot 
water for calling that "the stupidest team name in the history of sports".  
Someone had to explain to him that Utes are Indians.  I don't know about 
their authenticity.

I don't see where using a tribe name and traditions is necessarily 
insulting, unless they themselves think so.  However, the way it's done 
often is insulting, and teams in all sports at all levels should realize 
this.
> 
R Dendy, Elementary School Redskin, High School Chief

WAHOO must go!!
From: lavelle@aardvark.lerc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: The Deserving Heisman?
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:19:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center

In article <Brqprw.Dw@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson) writes:
>thartman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Timothy J Hartman) writes:
>
>>If I recall correctly, in Tim Brown's final regular season game against the 
>>convicts, the Irish were shutout 28-0 and Mr. Brown did not have a single 
>>catch.  Then, in the 1988 Cotton Bowl, he went after a Texas A&M player for 
>>grabbing his towel off his uniform.  Definitely not the epitome of a Heisman
>
>What was better about that game was that a bunch of non-scholorship players,
>i.e. the 12th man kickoff team, kept Tim in check as good as any team had
>all year.
>
>I was there, it was great!
>
>Todd
>tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu
>

I am definitely not a hard core Notre Dame fan, but...  If i remember
correctly that towel was specially made for him by a friend for the game.
I believe that one of those non-scholarship yahoos was taking a real
cheap shot by tring to grap the towel.  Now that is the epitome of
unsportsman like play.  Will someone from Notre Dame more familiar with
the incident please respond to clear up the story before i get
flamed beyond belief

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From: ryan@dup.cs.fsu.edu (John Ryan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: uniforms
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:12:15 GMT
Reply-To: ryan@nu.cs.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department


>        ND has the coolest uniforms (with Michigan a close second),
>the best fight song, and one of the best programs in the country.

A couple of years ago, a preseason mag (I don't remember the name)
ranked the top college uniforms, and their choice for the best was
Florida State's.  I believe Michigan's came in second.

Although I respect their team's play, I've got to say that Penn State's
uniforms are about the UGLIEST I have ever seen.  ND comes in a close
second.

-John Ryan
ryan@nu.cs.fsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: brown-d@quetzal.cis.ohio-state.edu (david wayne brown)
Subject: Re: Vols Chances for SEC
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:11:38 GMT

In article <15595@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> iftekhar@elm.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Iftekhar Hussain) writes:
>
>I think that Tennessee will win the SEC title this year. Their biggest
>nemesis Bama will be playing at Knoxville. This means they can beat
>Bama soundly. As far the rest of the schedule is concern it should be
>a piece of cake for Vols .

I don't think the Vols chances are all that great, their defense was destroyed
by graduation.  As far as being able to beat Bama soundly in Knoxville, they 
said the same thing 2 years ago, and 4 years ago, and even 6 years ago, and you
wanna know what - they ain't done it yet!  
>-Ifty

Dave Brown
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Subject: Re: Computer Prediction for the Pac 10 Conference
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: na
Date: 21 Jul 1992 10:06 EST  

In article <1992Jul18.042846.28654@u.washington.edu>, tannerg@milton.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes...
>>
>>Does anybody but me notice the problem with Cal's schedule this year?
>>It's exactly the same as last year -- too weak.
>>
>>The non-conference schedule includes:
>>	San Jose State
>>	Purdue
>>	Kansas	
>>
>>Not exactly challenging.  Verging on mediocre, for a team that wants
>>to be considered top-10 material.
>>
>>I can see another situation where Cal is 9-1 (or even 10-1), and wondering why
>>they're ignored in the bowls & the polls.  C'mon guys, let's get real.
> 
>I seem to remember two years ago that Virginia rose to the #1 ranking in the
>country on the basis of 5 ACC wins and wins over (I'm sure someone will correct
>me if I miss one of these) Wm&Mary, Navy, and Kansas.  NCState was up to #12
>last year by beating TheLittleSistersOfThePoor and probably would have
>cracked the top 10 had they not needed a miracle to beat a 1-AA team.
> 
>I hate to flame ACC teams (well, not really), but several of them have profited
>off of schedules weaker than Cal's and not gotten ignored by the bowls and the
>polls.  
> 
>GT

I love when someone else makes my East Coast Media Bias argument for me!  
If a WAC team tried this, they'd never see the Top 10.  Even BYU has to 
stack their non-conference schedule.

But you left out West Virginia.

R Dendy
From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: FAQ for rsfc (was Re: Woofing)
Date: 31 Jul 92 12:58:46 GMT
Organization: Auburn University, AL

In article <1992Jul29.233913.1376@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu>, jpm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:
> I'm curious to know what the story is about "woofing".  Exactly when is it safe
> to woof for your team and avoid the wrath of Oliver's Theorem?  Maybe this is a
> FAQ, but I haven't seen the full explanation since I've been reading this
> group. 

A FAQ?  For rec.sport.football.college???  Now THERE'S an idea!  For a
moderator, maybe we could get Mark Mitchell, or Darryl Marsee (or better
yet, Goober ("just the FAQs maam") Smith).

Lets see, what would this FAQ look like ...

  --------------R.S.F.C. FAQ - Abandon hope all who enter here--------

1. Which college has the greatest football tradition of all time??

Grasshopper, there have been many great teams and many great schools, but
the greatest of all time is <insert your school here>

2. Well Master, which schools have the greatest rivalries of all time (and
don't wimp out on the answer this time)

Ok, ok, these would be:

	Auburn-Alabama (still #1)
	Georgia-Georgia Tech
	Texas A&M-Cows
	Miami-San Diego st.
	etc...

3. Is woofing allowed in rsfc?

Drop dead you low-life Gator hating, Cane bashing, Aggie cow stealing, Irish
loving, Bama brick throwing, Pat Dye tieing, &*&^%$#$%^&.  Get a life jerk!!

4. Did BYU deserve the MNC a few years back (forgot the year)?

NO NO NO, a thousand times NO!!!!!

5. If two different teams win the MNC in different polls, is it permissable
to post, say 5000 messages to rsfc, all saying basically the same thing,
that MY TEAM IS BETTER THAN YOURS AND IS THE REAL CHAMPION, nyah nyah nyah??

Permissable??  It's a requirement!  (see Colorado/Ga Tech - 1990 season and
to a lesser extent, Washington/Miami for the 1991 season)

6. Why are Miami's colors so weird?

Good question!

7. What does MNC mean anyway?

Mythical National Championship (or MY National Championship for some fans)

.
.
.

Anyway, you get the idea.  Why doesn't everyone post their favorite rsfc FAQ
entries?  Who knows, we might have something here!! [ :-) ]
-- 
David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
From: rmrohre@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Randy M. Rohrer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Penn State dress code (was: Re: ND lovers / haters)
Date: 23 Jul 92 05:18:16 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond


In article <1992Jul22.170701.25055@den.mmc.com> kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.222856.22857@afterlife.ncsc.mil> rmrohre@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Randy M. Rohrer) writes:
>>     and white socks, don't forget those white socks.
>>     especially JoePas with the cuffs rolled up to the knees!!!
>
>When is Joe gonna get a new pair of those pants he had in the early 80s,
>the cream-colored ones with lots of blue Nittany Lions on them?  Those
>were classic JoePa.
>

	Actually, those cream-colored pants from the early '80s
had lots of blue <Whales> on them. Yes, whales!!! 
The students at that time (including me) always referred to them 
as JoePa's whale pants. And so did he in some interviews.   

	In fact, in JoePa's latest book, "Paterno By The Book",
(also referred to as "Paterno, BUY the Book" :) ), there is an entire
chapter devoted to the origins of the whale pants. I can post the
whole story if there is interest. But it boils down to just a whim
buy when he was at the Jersey shore with his family. His wife handed
him the pants to wear before a game. His plain khaki pants were lost
at the cleaners and the whale pants were the only khaki-colored ones
he had.
	"The players kidded me. The officials laughed at me.
The cheerleaders cheered me. Next day, one newspaper had a headline, 
'WHALE PANTS LEAD LIONS TO VICTORY'."

	They soon became a big joke and craze around the PSU
campus. Soon everybody was wearing them.


- Randy, PSU '83






-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Re: Beer sales at college games
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:49:57 GMT

In article <14pr39INNjko@agate.berkeley.edu> clarko@campanile.berkeley.edu (Clark Olson) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul24.195232.12135@u.washington.edu> crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>>>
>>>In my experience,
>>>the thing that limits alcohol consumption the most is a damn good team.  
>>>If everybody is fixated on the game, people are less likely to drink (at
>>>least to excess, which is the real problem).
>>

This is the kind of crap the UVA student paper tries to pull: "Well, the
'Hoos are good now, you shouldnt get drunk at games." To which is say:
Horseshit. I grew up in Alabama, and even at the Auburn-Alabama games,
which, of course, are the lifeblood of the state, plenty of people still
got drunk to watch the game. Its just that when the football is good, people
get drunk and watch the game, whereas if its lame, people get drunk and
look for other ways to entertain themselves...

-rob