From: brodie@fps.mcw.edu
Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp
Subject: Re: Where do I get DECUS UUCP?
Date: 2 Oct 92 10:50:37 CST
Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin,  Milwaukee, WI

In article <1992Sep30.142129.1@hmcvax.claremont.edu>, chris@hmcvax.claremont.edu writes:
>      I hate to ask a FAQ, but no FAQ is lying around for this newsgroup on my
> news server...  
> 
>      In any case, where do I get the most recent version of DECUS UUCP for VMS? 
> I have Internet, BITNET, and of course email access, so it shouldn't be a
> problem for me to get to whatever server it's on.  Please send the responses to
> me, I'm certain that the newsgroup doesn't need to be cluttered with this...

When V2.0 arrived, I posted this a few times.  SOunds like it's time
again to post it anyway.  (it's not that long...)

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                       UUCP_INFO.TXT    
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"The canned answer given to folks who want to get a copy of DECUS UUCP"

Last Revision:  8/26/92		Kent C. Brodie (brodie@fps.mcw.edu)
						-or-    fps!brodie)


How to get DECUS UUCP (Version 2.0):

DECUS UUCP, distributed by the DECUS "VMSNET" working group, is a complete
implementation of UUCP for VMS.    It is becoming one of the most popular
"packages" offered from DECUS, and for many VAX sites, it's their only
way to get to the internet.        This file describes how you may
obtain your very own copy of the software for little or no cost.


1) via DECUS.   By far the most popular method of obtaining DECUS UUCP
   is through the VAX SIG TAPES distributed by the DECUS librarians.  The
   tapes (now available on CDROM, too!) do not cost much (or nothing at all
   if you obtain them via your LUG librarian), and you'll get
   TONS of stuff besides "just" UUCP.     Contact your local DECUS tape
   librarian, and find out how you can get the latest set of DECUS tapes.
   (You can also order them through the DECUS LIBRARY)

   NOTE:
    * decus UUCP (V2.0) is NOW available on the SPRING 1992 tapes
    * decus UUCP (V1.3) last appeared on the FALL 1990 tapes

2) using FTP via the INTERNET.   DECUS UUCP (V2.0) is available via anonymous
   ftp from the following sites:

	ftp.spc.edu (192.107.46.27)	 directory [.decus_uucp]	 
		(maintained by terry@spcvxa.spc.edu)
	ftp.uu.net  (137.39.1.9)	 directory /systems/vms/uucp
		(maintained by the folks at uunet)
	mis1.mis.mcw.edu (141.106.64.11) directory [.decus_uucp]
		(maintained by brodie@mis.mcw.edu)
	mvb.saic.com (139.121.19.1) 	 directory [.decus_uucp]
		(maintained by Mark.berryman@mvb.saic.com)

   "mis1.mis.mcw.edu" is the ftp site that *I* maintain, and any
   updates I receive will be immediately passed down to the other sites
   shown above.

   The contents if the [.decus_uucp] directory should have the following:
   (file sizes listed are VMS disk blocks [=512 bytes each])

     Directory STA1:[UUCP_DIST]

     DEVEL.BKP;1           16128	
     MAPS.BKP;1            13167	
     NEWSDEVEL.BKP;1        7623
   * RUN.BKP;1              8001  		
     SUPPDOC.BKP;1          3465
     SUPPNEWS.BKP;1        12096
   * UU20BOOT.BKP;1         1890

     Total of 7 files, 62370 blocks.

   Files with a "*" are the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM required.  Additionally,
   NEW sites (not yet running UUCP) will also need MAPS.BKP.
   The "NEWS" files refer to Geoff Huston's ANU-NEWS, which is
   also distributed with DECUS UUCP.

   Additionally, If you're really up to it, the ftp site
   wuarchive.wustl.edu currently offers the latest VAX SIG decus
   tape offerings via anonymous ftp.  (the WHOLE tape, no parts!).  Be
   ready for a lot of transfer time and a lot of pieces, though.  

   If you do use FTP on any of the above sites, PLEASE be kind. 
   DECUS UUCP is kind of big, so transfer it during non-peak hours.
   
3) Via "anonymous uucp".    
   [thanks to Jamie Hanrahan who arranged for this....]

   UUNET also has the package available for pickup via anonymous uucp.
   (any DECUS UUCP site running at least V1.2 can make use of this!)
   
   DOCUMENTATION ON USING ANONYMOUS UUCP IS *IN* YOUR EXISTING (V1.2+)
   DECUS UUCP DOCUMENTATION (USRGDxx.MEM).

   You can use uunet even if you are not a "subscriber" (they have
   a 900 number!   At the time of writing, connect charges via 900 
   access is about $0.40 a minute)    (be forwarned:  uunet
   charges rates based on connect time used.... based on a V.32 modem
   (etc), the BASE kit would cost about $10-$12.  The ENTIRE kit can
   probably be retrieved for under $50.)   Although long distance is
   the "next best thing to being there", it isn't cheap....

   (If all you have is a 2400-baud modem, don't even consider this.....)

   The directory to get the files from is ~/systems/vms/uucp   and
   the very first file to retrieve is "aaareadme.txt".   That file
   will then document for you everything else you have to do.  (what
   files to get, how to uncompress them, etc.).
	
   The following is a reference to the file names and sizes.  You
   can be the judge as to what it would cost to transfer knowing
   your system's capabilities, modem speed, and connection rate:


   directory "/systems/vms/uucp":
   total 14174
   *  -rw-rw-r--   1 3        21          10198 Jul 20 19:52 aaareadme.txt
      -rw-rw-r--   1 3        21        4787679 Jul 10 05:01 devel.bkp-z
      -rw-rw-r--   1 3        21        2112011 Jul 10 05:17 newsdevel.bkp-z
   *  -rw-rw-r--   1 3        21          85666 Jul 17 00:15 preboot.vms_share
   *  -rw-rw-r--   1 3        21        2460500 Jul 10 05:24 run.bkp-z
      -rw-rw-r--   1 3        21         900149 Jul 10 05:27 suppdoc.bkp-z
      -rw-rw-r--   1 3        21        3591934 Jul 10 05:37 suppnews.bkp-z
   *  -rw-rw-r--   1 3        21         498411 Jul 17 00:22 uu20boot.bkp-z

   Files marked with a "*" are the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM required.  (note:
   the files here are a bit different from the FTP or MAGTAPE distribution)

4) Lastly, the final method of getting a copy is via your local friendly
   mailman.    I provide free distribution of the DECUS UUCP package,
   but only if you pay the freight.   

   Package the following:

   1 tape    (TK50, TK70, or 9-track)     ** TK85 coming soon...**
   1 self-addressed, STAMPED envelope to fit the tape  **required**


   Mail it all to:

    DECUS UUCP
c/o Kent Brodie
    Faculty Physicians & Surgeons
    11200 West Plank Court, Suite 160
    Wauwatosa, WI    53226


    (If you send me a 9-track tape, I can handle 1600 or 6250bpi.)   
    If you use 6250, it will all fit on a 600-foot reel.  If you need 1600,
    then you must send a 2400-foot reel)

    U.S. Postage for mailing a TKxx cartridge is something like $2.90.
    (thus, for both ways, the total cost is $5.80)
    
    A few notes.   I provide this service free of charge, but at the
    same time, The Medical College of Wisconsin didn't hire me to make
    tape copies either.  As I get tapes to make, I make them when I can.  
    Usual turnaround time is about a week.  ("your mileage may vary").
    
    Finally, when it comes to the self-addressed "stamped"
    envelope, you can use normal US postal mail, Federal Express, or UPS.
    Our office does not normally deal with any other couriers, so please
    don't go using DHL or something.   

    Questions?   email me or gimme a call.

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