From: subraman@andy.bgsu.edu (ANAND)
Subject: Re: Samyvellu and MIC
Summary: should blame ourself....
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:11:48 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.012913.29305@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>, eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:
> subraman@andy.bgsu.edu (ANAND) writes:
> : 
> : You right, Samyvellu has gone to an extreme case. Majority of Indian community
> 
> "majority"? How come he was elected into office ahead of another contender,
> who was very poor but reasonably capable. What was his name?
> 
> : wanted him to be removed from the politics arean. It's time for Samyvellu to
> : step out and let somebody else to do contribution.
> : 
> : Samy has done a lot of good things in the past for indian community. I respect
> : him for that. This past three years his performance has been getting worst
> : and his actions are ridiculous. All I can say about him is that he is being
> : selfish about the Presidential position. He wants to stay there until he dies.
> 
> From what I read in the newspapers and in this newsgroup, Samy had not done
> anything wrong. After all, he is a politician. Everything that he had done is
> legal(?).

whatever he has done is legal on the government's point of view not from the
Indian point of view. I can give you a list of things that he has done that
has caused a tension among other MIC party members. Samy uses dirty way to get
rid of his opponents from standing against him. So, after he gets rid of his
one and only opponent who else is there to be elected? 

All Samy, needs to do is, to call for an party election and let the election
committee to handle the whole process without any interruption and corruption
using his power. The problem now is, nobody can get near him because either
he beats you up or he will announce to the public of your bad profile. Now,
this is legal for the goverment because, they need evidence to convict him.
Also, since he is highly influenced man among the politicians, he gets away
easily. Is there anything we can do about it?

Maybe we should blame the government haaa..


> 	He may have done a lot of good things in the past. His apparent attempt
> to "stay until he dies" like Mahathir is his major crime.
> 	What makes them do this? Look at the past "sporting" leaders like
> Tunku Abdul Rahman, Tun Razak, Hussein Onn, Datu Onn. Anyone remberber their
> past good deeds. 
> 	The only thing they remember are their mistakes. Anyone can
> make mistake. Their courage to step down and prepare a competent "heir" were
> their strengths. Please note that they were "british educated".
> 	Again the problem is not the leaders, rather "our Asian culture". I note
> a lot of similarities in culture in all the races in malaysia.
> 	What makes you think that Dr Mahathir wants to step down soon? The
> key words were " will step down when people do not need me". Remember the post
> about his health? Posters and I bet Malaysians of all races were shocked and
> worried, as though there are no other leaders to replace him?
> 	Ask your self? Who is to be blamed?

I don't get it by what you mean by british educated? Are british educated people
cannot think rationaly? Maybe it's time to change our asean culture. Who is goint
to change it? We the new generation has to do it. If we follow "our asian
culture" flow, it's never going to change.


> 
> : There is going to be a rally from Batu Caves to Dr. Mahathir's office next 
> : month suggesting for Samy's resignation. The committe which is organizing this
> : rally is expecting around 10,000 people to show up. They also, got the police
> : permit to conduct this rally.
> 	Rallying is not democratic. Stop him in elections. Why don't you join
> politics? If you think you lose, don't blame Samy, he is still in demand.
> 	It is not democratic for Dr. Mahathir to remove Samy when he is still
> respected by the majority of Indians or even other people.

Rally is part of the democracy. One way to show your dissastisfaction against
the government. Don't people strike to show their disagreement? 
I didn't say that I lose, what I'm trying to show you that it's not easy to
change our politicians. Maybe I will join the politics someday when I get
home. But, that doesn't mean that I or the Indian community shouldn't do
anything about it now. Maybe it's time for the Indian community to wake up
and realize what they have gone into.
Let's take the Telecom's share scandal. What upset me is that, he sold all
the shares to his family members especially to his sons and other close 
family members. I think by now you should know that since you read the 
newspapers. I believe it was approximately 10 million dollar share. Let see 
how could he have improve the indian society? He had more than enough shares 
to sell for each indian family. Guess what? Every single indian family
would have own one Telecoms share by now. What else we could ask for?
Well, he didn't do it instead he was too selfish and tried to keep all the
share among his family. So, what you trying to say is that, this is 
something all the politician does and we just have to live with it???


> 
> : 
> : Step out Samy...... Give the way to the new generation !
> :  
> 
> --
> Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
> Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
> Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
> Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet
> 


Lets change our nations future instead of relying on the past actions.

Geeva.