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From: langelli@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Larry Langellier)
Subject: TICKETS: Blues Music Fest '92
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:32:02 GMT

I have 4 tickets for sale for the Blues Music Festival '92 on
Thursday, Aug. 27 at 8pm at Poplar Creek.  The featured artists
ar B.B. King, Buddy Guy, The Fabulous Thunderbirds, and one other
performer who I can't remember right now.

The face value of these tickets is $24.50 and they are located
in the lower level of the pavilion (Section 1, row W, seats 121-124).

I will sell them to the person with the best offer over $12 per ticket.

Thaks,

Larry Langellier
langelli@ils.nwu.edu                   phone (708) 352-3270

Newsgroups: chi.forsale
From: awf@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (andrew.w.fox)
Subject: Tandem Bicycle Forsale
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: chi
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:43:19 GMT
Keywords: tandem bicycle




     Two speed tandem, 26" wheels, finders,     ANDY FOX   (708)979-9123  IH-BTL
     front and back hub brakes, upright handle                   or
     bars, clean and in good condition.                    (708)232-9647  HOME
     Excellent for bike path riding                         After 5:00pm
     Asking $175   ihlpm!awf
Newsgroups: chi.forsale
From: gast@quads.uchicago.edu (C. Gareth Gaston)
Subject: FREE DESK & CHAIR
Reply-To: gast@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: chi
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:53:37 GMT


I have a large oak veneer bankers desk in reasonably good shape.  My
lease is up, the guy renting my apartment doesn't want it, and I'm in
New York so it has to go :-(

If you can move it you can have it.  It's actually pretty easy to move
since the top comes off. And useful too. Lot's of drawers.

The desk comes with a large wooden desk chair.  The kind that rolls
around on castors and is spring loaded so it can lean back.  It's very
comfy.

If you want it, call Andrew Sutherland at (312) 667-3799
and leave a message. Do it soon! Andrew has to leave Chicago 
on Thursday the 20th (in the morning).

Thanks, 

Gareth Gaston
-- 
C. Gareth Gaston
University of Chicago
gast@midway.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: ca.general
From: aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Aref)
Subject: Where is "Sutro"?
Originator: aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford University 
Distribution: ca
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:41:37 GMT

A friend sent me the following query and the only thing that 
comes to my mind is the Sutro (sp?) baths in San Francisco. Can
anyone please help? 

Please post or email to karenb@sharkbit.dazixco.ingr.com 

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Well, this is from and on-line library catalog and the call
information says these books are in the California State Library.
The actual entries look something like:

(CSL	Sutro	F292....  1987)

where F292.xxx is an LOC call number.

It's the Sutro bit that sort of has me baffled.
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Thanks in advance,

Aref


Newsgroups: ca.general,ba.general
From: sgenchi@neptune.uucp (Agent 99)
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: Where are the Hot Spots in N. California???
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:28:25 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: CSLA

I am going on a mini-road trip up the coast of California, from Orange
County through Santa Barbara, through San Luis Obispo etc.   and up through 
San Francisco to Santa Rosa(?) over Labor day weekend.

DOES ANYONE KNOW OF ANY EXCITING PLACES TO STOP OFF AT OR SEE ON MY WAY or
know of any activities happeneing over this particular weekend?

I am in my mid-twentys and like to have fun and do more "local" activities
then "tourist type" activities.

Any input will be appreciated.  Please respond directly to me....
Thank you

Stacie ----------->>  sgenchi@calstatela.edu
From: glezen@drb-mathsun4.usc.edu (Paul Glezen)
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: Re: Jumping the Good Ship California
Date: 19 Aug 1992 20:11:42 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: drb-mathsun4.usc.edu

In article <19650@fritz.filenet.com> scotth@fritz.filenet.com (Scott Hopson) writes:>
>Even though it might be bad for the economy, I think in the end
>California is better off with less people. We have been saturated
>for a long time. If enough people leave California might become a 
>nice place to live again.......

   Your right about it being bad for the economy.  You see, the people leaving
California do not represent the full economic spectrum.  Rather, the bulk of
those "jumping the Good Ship" are middle class tax payers.  People heavily
dependent on social welfare are not going to leave and many more such are
(and always will be) constantly streaming in.  With more and more people with
their hands out and fewer to replenishish funds providing for social need, I
think that a strong(er) social imbalance will develope.  Perhaps one day sudden
severe cutbacks may have to be made  -  making it worse for the lower class than
it was wherever they came from (assuming they came from outside California).

   Anyway, the point is that Californians may do well to be concerned about the
recent (tax base) exodus.  I think that it will be painfully felt in otherways
long before its effect is welcomed on the freeways and in the supermarkets.

- Paul Glezen
From: wisner@netcom.com (Bill Wisner)
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: Re: Jumping the Good Ship California
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:42:26 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Trailing Edge Technologies, Mountain View, CA

>                                          But....who want's to live in
>   a place where it rains 300 days out of the year?

(raised hand)

w.
Newsgroups: ca.general
From: case@ucs.sdsu.edu (Steve Case)
Subject: Re: Jumping the Good Ship California
Organization: San Diego State University, Data Communications
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:54:27 GMT

In article <Bt5oIG.Gxo@well.sf.ca.us> casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton) 
writes:

>I know several people who have left California recently, and I'm hearing
>more talk about it.  Do you have a general sense of incoming/outgoing?
>Have you thought about leaving yourself?

Jobs, housing, safe neighborhoods, health care, food, insurance, etc. are 
what I consider, for lack of a better definition, "economic opportunity". 
Right now, most of these items are difficult and expensive to obtain in CA. 
"Economic opportunity" probably drives in/out-migration more than anything 
else. This is likely true for most states, not just CA. On the other hand, 
maybe CA's demise is simply the result of too many people combined with 
state and local govt's that can't plan past lunch.

Here's one thing I know I don't like about CA: I rarely meet someone who has 
lived in the same place for more than couple of years. This type of 
transient behaviour, I believe, contributes to many of the same problems 
that people identify as reasons they want to leave. When we visit the in-
laws in the South, most people we meet have roots in their communities with 
a strong sense of neighborhood identity. Seems like those that do want to 
leave always end up in CA, thus perpetuating this "rootlessness".

To answer your question: My wife and I were both born and raised in CA 
(myself right here in SD), but are not sure this is where we want to raise 
our kids. Still, it would be hard to leave what we consider "home".

--
Steve Case (case@ucs.sdsu.edu) | "Cover for me!"
Data Communications Group      | "Oh, good idea, boss!"
University Computing Services  | "It was like that when I got here."
San Diego State University     | - Homer's standard disclaimers.
San Diego, California 92182    | "My opinions only" - my standard disclaimer
Newsgroups: ca.general
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: Jumping the Good Ship California
Organization: Are you kidding?
Distribution: ca
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 23:25:10 GMT

In article <Bt5oIG.Gxo@well.sf.ca.us> casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton) writes:
+
+I know several people who have left California recently, and I'm hearing
+more talk about it.  Do you have a general sense of incoming/outgoing?
+Have you thought about leaving yourself?

I had thought about leaving myself, but decided that I couldn't live 
without myself :-).
____________________________________________________________________________
		Stop me before I pun again!
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 Paul D. Blumstein, paulb@harley.tti.com, DoD #36, ABATE, AMA, HOG, KD6LAA
            Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
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From: ceb@dbrus.Unify.Com (Caroline E. Bryan)
Subject: Re: Jumping the Good Ship California
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 16:20:10 GMT

In article <Bt5oIG.Gxo@well.sf.ca.us> casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton) writes:
>
>I know several people who have left California recently, and I'm hearing
>more talk about it.  Do you have a general sense of incoming/outgoing?
>Have you thought about leaving yourself?

Not seriously -- I like this job!  There's a guy here at work who says that
if Clinton and Gore win the election he's moving to Canada.  He says it
often enough that I've decided that next time he says it, I'll say that if
they lose, I might move, too -- to Arkansas.


Carrie		ceb@rechenau.unify.com	x6244		--------------------+
| "The brain that processes these words as you read them is NOT the one you |
| were born with."				- Steven Jay Gould	    |
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Newsgroups: ca.general
From: casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton)
Subject: Jumping the Good Ship California
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 01:37:27 GMT


I know several people who have left California recently, and I'm hearing
more talk about it.  Do you have a general sense of incoming/outgoing?
Have you thought about leaving yourself?
Newsgroups: ca.general
From: bkt@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Barrie Trinkle)
Subject: Re: Jumping the Good Ship California
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Distribution: ca
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:31:55 GMT

ellon@ADS.COM (Ellon St. Croix) writes:

   (Stuff about how non-native Californians have no right to
   voice any complaint whatsoever deleted)

So let's get this straight--if you were born here, you can complain,
right?  The guy whose message you responded to said he was born here,
so where did the gratuitous stuff about all the evil outsiders come from?

>--
>"Excuse me,George Herbert,irregular-heart-beating,read-my-lying-lipping
>slipping-in-the-polls,do-nothing,deficit-raising,make-less-money than 
>Millie-the-White-House-dog-last-year,Quayle-loving,sushi-puking Bush!
>I don't remember inviting your ass to my show!"  Arsenio Hall.

I meant to say in my earlier message -- great .sig, though.
--
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..nothing is so fatal to maidenly delicacy of speech as the run of 
a good library.
				Robertson Davies, _Tempest Tost_
From: miliu@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (zaphod beeblebrox)
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: Re: Jumping the Good Ship California
Date: 18 Aug 92 04:10:29 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <Bt5oIG.Gxo@well.sf.ca.us> casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton) writes:
>I know several people who have left California recently, and I'm hearing
>more talk about it.  Do you have a general sense of incoming/outgoing?
>Have you thought about leaving yourself?

The San Diego Union-Tribune, 8/17/92, "Most moving vans going one
way. . . out of San Diego."

According to this article, people are moving out of the SD area.
For every three moving trucks leaving (either California in general
or just San Diego; it didn't specify) only one gets brought back by
people moving here.  A manager for Budget in San Diego County said
that they've had 50 drivers on the road constantly for the past
three weeks.  Renting a U-Haul from Seattle to San Diego will cost
$199, but going the other way will cost $3000.  Bob Wood, president
of U-Haul Co. of San Diego said that a customer rented a U-Haul to
move from Virginia to SD for $20, and got a $100 rebate (yes, the
people got paid $80 for using the van, or whatever, from Virginia to
SD).

The reasons quoted for discontent seems to be that California has
lost its glamour and the high unemployment rate.

Personally, I don't know anyone who moved, either into or out of
California (well, not counting friends headed for Fall session at
out-of-state universities).  At this point in time, I don't think I
would leave.  Is anywhere else really any better than here?

			Zaphod
From: LJ03933@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: Roundtrip(*2):San Jose,CA->Jacksonville,FLA
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:02:33 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.

FOR SALE: 2 roundtrip tickets

          San Jose, CA -> Jacksonville, FLA
          Good thru Sept. 13, 1992
          1 male name, 1 female name.
          $420 for both

          (prefer to sell as a pair,
           but all offers will be considered)

E-mail responses/queries to L620732@lmsc5.is.lmsc.lockheed.com
Newsgroups: ca.general
From: ellon@ADS.COM (Ellon St. Croix)
Subject: Re: Jumping the Good Ship California
Organization: Wild Bill & BabyCat's House of Many Pleasures
Distribution: ca
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:22:52 GMT


In article <33_nr#j.wisner@netcom.com> wisner@netcom.com (Bill Wisner) writes:
>>                                          But....who want's to live in
>>   a place where it rains 300 days out of the year?
>
>(raised hand)
>
>w.

Then go!  It's as simple as that.  Of course, finding a job isn't 
that simple.  That's probably one of the main reasons why all these
people that hate this city living stick around.  They want the
benefits of living close to their jobs, play areas(ie:beaches, windsurfing...)
and yet, they don't want to be bothered by the 25 million other people
living in the state.  You can't have it both ways.  Either you love
this state or you hate it.  If you're not happy here, then leave.

That is ALL I'm trying to say.

--
"Excuse me,George Herbert,irregular-heart-beating,read-my-lying-lipping
slipping-in-the-polls,do-nothing,deficit-raising,make-less-money than 
Millie-the-White-House-dog-last-year,Quayle-loving,sushi-puking Bush!
I don't remember inviting your ass to my show!"  Arsenio Hall.
From: akumar@pollux.usc.edu (Anant Kumar)
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: SpicMacay:Indian Dance(ODISSI):LEC-DEM:AUG 19:FREE
Date: 12 Aug 1992 15:30:15 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu


  Society for Promotion of Indian Classical Music And Culture Amongst Youth
                                (SPIC-MACAY)

                                 presents

                   An evening (Lecture-Demonstration) with

           	 One of the foremost Indian Classical Dancers
			  The Great Odissi Exponent


                             SANJUKTA PANIGRAHI



                        Wednesday Aug. 19, 1992, 7:30 pm.
			
 		       Titan pavilion A, University Center
			  California State University
                                   Fullerton

			**ALSO AT:
			  Peterson Hall, Room 103
			  UC, SAN DIEGO. August 20th, 7:30 pm.
			  Call (619) 291 9377 for more Info.
			**

                        ADMISSION FREE AND OPEN TO ALL.
	     (First Come First Served, limited by hall capacity)

		For CARPOOL and other info, contact:
                           USC, Los Angeles (213) 748-6353 (Kartik)
                           UC, Irvine       (714) 856-3589 (Sanjiv)
                           UC, Los Angeles  (310) 312-1644 (Munira)
			   CSU, Fullerton   (714) 992-5875 (Subha)

                or e-mail: ananthan@usc.edu   (Kartik)

Lecture-Demonstration: 
---------------------
The artist explains the art form and its intricacies. She illustrates
her explanations with demonstrations of each action (mudra) even as she
talks.

The audience will be sitting on the floor, close to the artist. It might be
a good idea to get your own cushions.

Directions and Parking:
----------------------
From 91 Freeway
Take 57 N. (Pomona), Exit Nutwood Avenue. Take left at exit (lights)
right on State College Blvd.
First Right on Dorothy Lane
Immediate Left and go on to Parking Lots A & B.

parking Fee is $2 per car.

---
from 60 Freeway.
Take 57 South, Exit Nutwood. Right at exit and follow above directions.
--------------------------------------------------------
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From: lorrayne@smiley.mitre.org (Lorrayne Schaefer)
Subject: House for Rent West Hills, CA
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
Distribution: ca
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:20:22 GMT


My parents have a house for rent.  It is a 2-story, 4 Bedroom 2 1/2
bath home with large library, and a deck. New carpet, recently
painted.  The home is in immaculate condition.  The house in in a
professional neighborhood close to an elementary school and near
shopping centers.  The grounds are professionally maintained.

For more information or to schedule an appointment, please contact the
property manager Michael Aroner of Sunshine Realty at 818-895-2341.
From: jacek@edstar.ucsb.edu (Jacek Smits)
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: Re: Where are the Hot Spots in N. California???
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:32:32 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: UCSB Graduate School of Education

sgenchi@neptune.uucp (Agent 99) writes:

>I am going on a mini-road trip up the coast of California, from Orange
>County through Santa Barbara, through San Luis Obispo etc.   and up through 
>San Francisco to Santa Rosa(?) over Labor day weekend.
>DOES ANYONE KNOW OF ANY EXCITING PLACES TO STOP OFF AT OR SEE ON MY WAY or
>know of any activities happeneing over this particular weekend?

Santa Barbara is a definite Hot Spot. Try to avoid it! It is just
as boring as it sounds.

Not to disappoint you, but you missed Fiesta last week.

Jacek Smits

Department of Educational Psychology               jacek@edstar.ucsb.edu
Graduate School of Education
University of California
Santa Barbara, CA 93106
Newsgroups: ca.general
From: LJ03933@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: SJ to JAX Tix
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 17:47:02 GMT

These tickets are no longer available...
Thanks to those folks who showed interest.
TKJ
------------------------- Original Article -------------------------

Posting for a friend - E-mail replies to:
                     L620732@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
                     (Note: He's off for the day, responses to
                      your e-mail will be on Mon. 8/10 earliest)

FOR SALE: 2 Roundtrip tickets  --> $420
          San Jose, CA -> Jacksonville, FLA
          1 male name, 1 female

          (Prefer to sell as a pair but
            will consider otherwise)

(mail accidently sent to me will be forwarded)

Newsgroups: ca.general
From: ellon@ADS.COM (Ellon St. Croix)
Subject: Re: Jumping the Good Ship California
Organization: Wild Bill & BabyCat's House of Many Pleasures
Distribution: ca
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:12:57 GMT


 rudomet@eltamin.usc.edu (Steve Rudometkin) writes:
> casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton) writes:
>>
>>I know several people who have left California recently, and I'm hearing
>>more talk about it.  Do you have a general sense of incoming/outgoing?
>>Have you thought about leaving yourself?
>Two of my friends are DEFINITELY leaving the state.  Both are mid 20's, 
>college educated, high wage earners (which CA can't afford to lose) who
>spent most of their lives here ~15 years each.  Both are sick and tired
>of the crowds, traffic, smog, crime, unaffordable housing, taxes, gangs, 
>racial tension, etc.

>I spent a month in Europe this spring, and when I came back I almost packed my
>bags immediately to leave to ANYWHERE else.  It took about a week to get used
>to the above mentioned horrors of LA and learn to ignore it.
>
>By the way, I am a lifelong resident of SoCal.  19 Years in LA, 4 years in SD,
>2 Years in LA (so far).
>


   As a native Californian, all I can say to these people is...

   SEE YA!  Can I help you pack??? Here's your coat, where's your hat?  


   There are crime, smog, taxes, traffic, etc. everywhere else too.
   It's just a matter of how much you are willing to take.  My mother 
   moved to Oregon when she retired, she says if there are five people
   at a stoplight that is a traffic jam.  But....who want's to live in
   a place where it rains 300 days out of the year?

   I was born here in CA, I went to school here, and I'll die here.

   And I am getting tired of these people who come here from somewhere
   else and put this state down.  If you don't like it then go back to
   where ever you came from.


   Ellon (welcome to California, now go home) St. Croix

--
"Excuse me,George Herbert,irregular-heart-beating,read-my-lying-lipping
slipping-in-the-polls,do-nothing,deficit-raising,make-less-money than 
Millie-the-White-House-dog-last-year,Quayle-loving,sushi-puking Bush!
I don't remember inviting your ass to my show!"  Arsenio Hall.
From: lazzaro@boom.CS.Berkeley.EDU (John Lazzaro)
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: Re: Jumping the Good Ship California
Date: 20 Aug 1992 17:21:14 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: boom.cs.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Aug18.053707.19805@rgb.com> rick@rgb.com (Rick Davis) writes:
> Try asking for directions in downtown SF.

As someone who lives in downtown SF, I see a lot of "direction-asking"
happening as I walk down the street every day, and what I see are
polite locals taking time out of the day to help visitors on their
way. I think your characterization is really unfair in this regard. As
a city of less than 800,000 people, we absorb 18 million visitors a
year, and if we were snotty and inconsiderate to them they wouldn't
come back (in increasing numbers, modulo earthquakes) year after year.

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