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From: wouter@cwi.nl (Wouter Mettrop)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: VOLLEYBALL: Results Men, Pool B
Date: 31 Jul 92 09:10:11 GMT
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam

MEN POOL B

Cuba         - Holland      : 3-1
Algeria      - Unified Team : 0-3
South Korea  - Brazil       : 0-3

Cuba         - Algeria      : 3-0  
Unified Team - Brazil       : 1-3 
South Korea  - Holland      : 0-3

Matches 30-07:
 
South Korea  - Algeria      : 3-0 (15-8; 15-11; 15-12) 
Holland      - Brazil       : 0-3 (11-15; 9-15; 4-15)
Unified Team - Cuba         : 1-3 (15-8; 10-15; 12-15; 5-15)


N = number of matches played
P = points (2 for a victory, 1 for a defeat)
F = sets for
A = sets against

                N  P   F-A
                ----------
Brazil          3  6   9-1
Cuba            3  6   9-2
Unified Team    3  4   5-6
Holland         3  4   4-6
South Korea     3  4   3-6
Algeria         3  3   0-9

Remaining matches:
      
01-08 South Korea  - Unified
      Algeria      - Holland.
      Brazil       - Cuba.
03-08 Unified Team - Holland.
      Cuba         - South Korea.
      Algeria      - Brazil.
      
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From: guo@borneo.gmd.de test
Subject: TEST!
Organization: GMD
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:18:57 GMT

sorry.TEST!
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From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
Subject: Re: VOLLEYBALL QUESTION
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:53:16 GMT

In article <Bs6tHp.J7C@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen) writes:
|> wouter@cwi.nl (Wouter Mettrop) writes:
|> 
|> >Italy           2  4   6-1
|> >Japan           2  3   5-4
|> >United States   2  3   4-5
|> >France          2  3   4-5
|> >Spain           2  3   3-5
|> >Canada          2  2   4-6
|> 
|> What do these above numbers mean?  Please explain them.
|> Are they total matches, points, games for-against?
|> If so, how are points determined?
It looks like:

matches played -- points -- W-L record in games

where a won match is two points and a loss is one.

Jason W. Solinsky
From: teuben@lynx.astro.umd.edu (Peter Teuben)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: BADMINTON: some results
Date: 30 Jul 92 02:04:07 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Maryland, Astronomy Department



It's hard to get at some results, but I found some. I will hopefully get more detailed
listings later on in the week. Obviously I'm biased by the coverage of country of residence.
Please add to the list.

Chris Jogis has the best chances in the American team with a lucky draw. He advanced very
easily to the second round

MS: 1st rnd  Chris Jogis (USA) -
               Dean Galt (New Zealand)                  15-1, 15-3

A bit ahead of schedule apparently, but they did already play one double match.

WD: 1st rnd  Juli Bradbury/Gillian Clark (England)
               Erma S. Sulistyaningsih/Rosiana Tendean  15-10, 4-15, 17-15
                                        (Indonesia)


And for the US readers: check out the latest NEWSWEEK magazine: they do a piece
on Olympic badminton, and even dare to compare the number of badminton players
with the Triplecast audience. Guess who won? You guessed right, badminton!

 - Peter
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From: jpope@axion.bt.co.uk (john pope)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Summer olympics trivia quiz
Date: 23 Jul 92 11:54:00 GMT
Reply-To: jpope@axion.bt.co.uk (john pope)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs


In article <1992Jul22.180431.18241@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, roderick@mksol.dseg.ti.com (Brett Roderick) writes:
|> The following is a summer olympic trivia
|> quiz from the cafeteria at work. Can someone
|> send me the appropriate year(s) to match the
|> host city.                                      
|> 
|> year  city                        choices
|> 1972  ____  Munich, Germany              
|> ____  Los Angeles, U.S.A           1900
|> 1984  ____  Los Angeles, U.S.A           1904
|> ____  Rome, Italy                  1908
|> 1936  ____  Berlin, Germany              1912
|> ____  Melbourne, Australia         1920
|> ____  London, Great Britain        1924
|> ____  London, Great Britain        1928
|> 1988  ____  Seoul, S. Korea              1932
|> ____  Paris, France                
|> ____  Paris, France                1948
|> 1968  ____  Mexico City, Mexico          1952
|> ____  St. Louis, U.S.A.            1956
|> 1896  ____  Athens, Greece               1960
|> 1992  Barcelona, Spain             
|> 1980  ____  Moscow, U.S.S.R              
|> 1964  ____  Tokyo, Japan                 
|> ____  Stockholm, Sweden            
|> 1976  ____  Montreal, Canada             
|> ____  Antwerp, Belgium             
|> ____  Amsterdam, Holland           
|> ____  Helsinki, Finland            1992
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> Brett Roderick                
|> roderick@ap040.csc.ti.com  


So far so good, one year early on I seem to recall
things were spread across cities. Check Guiness Book of
Records for full details.

JP

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From: banchy@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (Banchy thomas g (410) 461-2216)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Kirelin and HGH
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:11:06 GMT
Reply-To: banchy@aplcen (Banchy thomas g (410) 461-2216)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University

In article <Jul.30.12.35.25.1992.4471@remus.rutgers.edu> clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long) writes:
>
>He has exaggerated features commonly associated with using human
>growth hormone.
>
What about Andre the Giant?  I've always thought that he was considered
to be a textbook case of acromegaly.  Isn't it true that certain 
medical conditions can cause acromegaly in the absence of steroids
(i.e. pituitary gland disorders)?  Of course, Andre does not have the
ripped physique of the Soviet, but then again, he certainly does not
train in the same manner.  How ripped would Andre get on the same
training schedule?

That having been said, I still agree with Chris.  After all, this guy
is a Soviet.

>Did you notice the physical difference between him and the other
>supers?  I guess they just don't want it as bad as he does - NOT.

Yeah, right, and monkeys might fly out of my butt!

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From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: FLD HOCKEY: Result-Australia v Argentina
Organization: -=[ Curtin University ]=-  Perth, Australia.
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 09:02:47 GMT

HOCKEY RESULT - Australia v Argentina
=====================================

In the first Field Hockey match in Barcelona, Australia had a convincing
win over Argentina 7 to 0.

Rod Swift
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From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: JUDO: M's Light-heavyweight Round 3
Organization: -=[ Curtin University of Technology ]=-  Perth, Australia
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 11:30:28 GMT

JUDO - Men's Light-heavyweight Round 3
======================================

BALJINNYAM, Odvog		MON
	defeated
AGUIRRE WARDI, Jorge David	ARG
	by warning.

NASTULA, Pawel			POL
	defeated
VAN DE WALLE, Robert		BEL
	by ippon (throw).

STEVENS, Raymond		GBR
	defeated
IVAN, Radu			ROM
	by wazi-ari-awasete-ippon (throw).

MARTINEZ, Belarmino Salgado	CUB
	defeated
GUIDO, Luigi			ITA
	by waza-ari (throw).

WHITE, Leo			USA
	defeated
TRAINEAU, Stephane		FRA
	by ippon (throw).

MAIJER, Theo			NED
	defeated
KAI, Yasuhiro			JPN
	by yuko (throw).

MIGUEL, Aurelio Bernandez	BRA
	defeated
SOSNA, Jiri			TCH
	by warning.

KOVACS, Antal			HUN
	defeated
SERGEEV, Dmitri			EUN
	by yuko (throw).


Qualified for round 4:
	BALJINNYAM, Odvog		MON
	NASTULA, Pawel			POL
	STEVENS, Raymond		GBR
	MARTINEZ, Belarmino Salgado	CUB
	WHITE, Leo			USA
	MAIJER, Theo			NED
	MIGUEL, Aurelio Bernandez	BRA
	KOVACS, Antal			HUN


** Results complete **

Rod Swift
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From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: GRECO-ROMAN WRESTLING: results - 52kg
Summary: results of 3rd and 4th rounds of 52kg weight class
Keywords: greco-roman wrestling, olympics, 52kg
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 17:06:52 GMT
Expires: 10 Aug 92



Barcelona Olympics - Greco-Roman Wrestling
Monday July 27 1992 - Day 2 - Elimination Bouts: 52kg

1 kg. = 2.2 lbs.
S = Superiority
G = Great superiority


=====================================================================
Third round
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Pool A:
Alfred Ter-Mkrttchian (EUN) def Khaled Farai (SYR)       4-1
Min Kyung-Kap (KOR)         def Valentin Rebegea (ROM)  12-0
Ismo Kamesaki (FIN)         def Raul Aleman (CUB)        4-2

Pool B:
Jon Ronningen (NOR)         def Bratan Tzenov (BUL)      5-3
Shawn Sheldon (USA)         def Senad Rizvanovic (YUG)   3-1
=====================================================================
Fourth round
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Pool A:
Alfred Ter-Mkrttchian (EUN) def Min Kyung-Kap (KOR)      3-0
Valentin Rebegea (ROM)      def Ismo Kamesaki (FIN)      7-0

Pool B:
Shawn Sheldon (USA)         def Bartan Tzenov (BUL)      5-2
Jon Ronningen (NOR)         def Senad Rizvanovic (YUG)  11-0
+====================================================================
Standings after four rounds
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Pool A:
Name                            W-L     Pts
-------------------------------------------
Alfred Ter-Mkrttchian (EUN)     3-0    10
Min Kyung-Yap (KOR)             3-1    11.5
Ismo Kamesaki (FIN)             3-1    10
Valentin Rebegea (ROM)          3-1     9
Raul Aleman (CUB)               1-2     6   eliminated
Khaled Farai (SYR)              0-2     2   eliminated
Serge Robert (FRA)              0-2     2   eliminated
Majid Jahandideh (IRN)          0-2     1   eliminated
Olaf Brandt (GER)               0-2     0   eliminated

Pool B:
Name                            W-L     Pts
-------------------------------------------
Jon Ronningen (NOR)             4-0    13.5
Shawn Sheldon (USA)             3-1    10
Ramon Mena (PAN)                1-1     3
Senad Rizvanovic (YUG)          2-2     9   eliminated
Bartan Tzenov (BUL)             2-2     9   eliminated
Said Tango (MOR)                0-2     2   eliminated
Remzi Ozturk (TUR)              0-2     1.5 eliminated
Ulises Valentin (DOM)           0-2     0   eliminated
    I don't know what happened to Ramon Mena (PAN) in the third and
    fourth rounds.
=====================================================================

    --mack

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From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: Re: Music Used on NBC
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:33:40 GMT

In article <Bs2C7F.8C0@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> lhhuang@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Larry Huang) writes:

>I think the music used by NBC was called "Olympic Fanfare" and yeah, it
>is a cool piece.  It was released in 1984 for the L.A. games by (I think)
>CBS records.

Well, this one is one that I remember hearing on ABC as far back as I
can remember (the first Olympics I saw on TV was the 1972 Munich
Games).
-- 
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                         Space Telescope Science Institute
                         Baltimore, MD   21218
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From: van@seurat.wustl.edu (Van Vo)
Subject:  USA/Japan Protest (Rules explanation)
Organization: Washington University, School of Engineering, St. Louis MO
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:18:10 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.174007.19521@rice.edu> reed@owlnet.rice.edu (Kevin  
Niles Reed) writes:
> While listening to the discussions about the US Volleyball team, I was  
given
> the impression that they are likely to win the Gold.  They were expected
> to win all the preliminary games quite easily.  The problem I have with  
the
> protest, is that if we set up an analagous situation in Basketball, we  
would
> accuse the players of being petty(boy am I going to get flamed for  
this).
> The US in all likelyhood will advance, with or without a victory over  
Japan.
> If the call was going to make a difference in the end, I could  
understand
> people's anger with the ruling.
> 
> 
> Kevin Reed
> reed@agps.lanl.gov

Just to carry this thing on a little longer.  The U.S. is not favored
to go to the Gold medal game.  Italy is favored to win the gold and
Cuba and the U.S. are next in line.  Italy has a professional vb league
not unlike our NBA.  Even some of the US players play in the Italian
league during indoor season.  Having lost to Japan, I expect the US
to finish 3rd in their pool and advance.

And to clarify the warning rules in volleyball:

Minor unsportsmanlike conduct: Warning: yellow card: wrist slap
Second warning (same game) or "rude behavior": Penalty:
	red card: Point/Side Out
Second penalty (same game) or "offensive conduct": Expulsion:
	yellow & red cards together: player out of game
Second expulsion (same match): Disqualification:
	yellow & red cards apart: player out of match

Individual offenses subject to sanction:
Addressing officials concerning their decisions.
Making profane or vulgar acts, gestures, or remarks.
*Committing acts or gestures tending to influence officials.*
Disruptive coaching or other actions by any team member.
Crossing the net plane to distract while ball in play.

As you can tell, there is no such thing as a second yellow card in the
same game to the same player.  Also, a red card does not constitute
getting tossed, contrary to popular belief (and soccer).  I agree
with the ref that Samuelson should have gotten a second warning.
I agree with the committee that the second card should have been a 
red card resulting in a point for the Japanese (since they were
serving).  And I also agree with the committee that the Japanese should
be awarded the match since the point would have given the Japanese
a 15-13 victory in the 4th game and no replay would be required.

There is no doubt in my mind that it was a fair decision and that the
US is just being babies.  Just because it's unprecedented doesn't mean
you can't set one.

Van Vo
Washington University VBC

BTW, anyone been reading Doonesbury?
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From: rachele@cs.rice.edu (Rachele Harless)
Subject: Re: GYMNASTICS: results (men's team competition, AA & event qualifiers)
Summary: Five different Americans make finals
Keywords: gymnastics
Organization: Rice University, Houston
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:56:26 GMT
Expires: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 05:00:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.150737.7678@news.acns.nwu.edu> fish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Eric West) writes:
>
>I find it very interesting to see that two of the three American gymnasts who
>qualify for the individual apparatus finals--Jair Lynch and Trent
>Dimas--will not compete in the all-around competition, while John
>Roethlisberger and Scott Keswick, both in the all-around competition, are
>shut out of individual events.  How did this happen?  I realize that for
>the all-around, one need not be the best in all disciplines to be
>successful (much like the decathlon), but this wasn't the case in the
>women's competition--the three all-around American qualifiers are the ones
>who qualified in the separate events as well.  Did Dimas and Lynch have
>particularly good routines on their qualification apparatus, or did they
>really mess up on some other apparatus, making their all-around scores low?
>Or are they simply good in the "right" events, i.e., the events in which
>many people are shut out due to the "2 person/country" rule, rather than
>the events in which a variety of countries do well and few get shut out to
>let lower scorers in?
>
>Just Wondering,
>ecw

Well, the main reason we have so many different finalists is that the
US men's trademark is that they are interchangeable... there is no one
gymnast that stands out.  For the women, there is a much clearer
ranking within the team.  Kerri Strug (vault) and Dominique Dawes
(floor) could have made events if their compulsories were stronger.

The men who made individual event finals did so because they are
awesome on those particular events (all scores of 9.7+, pretty high
for the men).  The men who made all-around did so because overall they
were more consistent... all except for Scott Keswick.  He *just* beat
out Trent Dimas to the all-around (43rd and 44th places respectively),
and only did so because he posted such terrific compulsory scores
(12th overall).  All of the six men are approximately equal in ability
and performance and had the ability to make all-around... it just
depended who was "on" for those particular days.  If Keswick and
Roethlisberger had hit their strongest events (rings and high bar for
Keswick, and I think floor for Roeth.?), they probably could have made
finals in those-- but they didn't.  Keswick was 4th on the high bar in
1991.

Also, note that Jair Lynch was in 16th for parallel bars but qualified
because 14 of the top 15 on pbars were from the same three teams, so
eight of the top 15 could not compete.  But Jair is outstanding on
this event...

Rachele

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From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
Subject: Re: US/Japan volleyball protest
Keywords: protest
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:47:59 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.133916.21471@oakhill.sps.mot.com>, millerm@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Mikemoe) writes:
|> As soon as someone finds out the results of the
|> Japanese protest of yesterday's match, please
|> post it.
|> 
|> 
|> FYI...my understanding of the protest is due
|> to possible referee error. Allegedly, the ref
|> should have ejected a USA player, instead of
|> giving him another (his 2nd) warning for yelling
|> at a ref. This ejection would also have awarded
|> Japan with another point...that point would
|> have given the 4th game (and match) to Japan.
|> Instead, USA turns it around and wins 4th and 5th
|> games for the match.

Lets clarify this.
A) Just before and just after this bad call the ref made two poor calls both
of which were shown incorrect by video tape. Unfortnately they were of the
judgement variety so they can't be protested. Clearly the refs were confused
when the incident occured.

B) The Japanese did not protest the incident at the time it occured, and
occording to Olympic rules it was too late afterwards.

C) Neither the United States player nor the Score keeper were informed of the
yellow card. This is where the actual error occured. Again, this was the refs
error and most likely occured because he was royally fowling up the game at the
time and because he knew it. I should note that as in most sports the refs are
less likely to give a red card to a player with a yellow than a yellow to
another player especially when that would end the match. The ref was un-aware of
this. If he had been, it is unlikely his judgement would have been the same.

D) I just saw the statement from the head of the US Volleyball association (or
whatever you call it) which in effect says that we're not going to complain about
awarding the game to Japan because we'll make the playoffs anyway and they might
not. THIS IS BULLSHIT. If I were a US player and found out the my coaches had
allowed the game to be taken from us, my morale would go downhill so fast that
I'd never be able to play well again.

Jason W. Solinsky
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Kirelin and HGH
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:56:31 GMT

In article <Jul.30.12.35.25.1992.4471@remus.rutgers.edu> clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long) writes:
>In article <1992Jul30.151450.890@random.ccs.northeastern.edu>,
>  Susan Gauch writes:
>
>> How can one tell from a "face" that someone has used steroids?  I
>> know that some steroids (i.e. Prednizone) give "moon-face" (i.e. a
>> rounder face than normal) but I didn't particularly notice it in Kirelin.
>
>He has exaggerated features commonly associated with using human
>growth hormone.
>

Consider for example, the unusual number of members of the Santa Monica
track club that wear braces...

Gerald
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From: geddis@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Don Geddis)
Subject: Re: Speed scores (Rally Point Scoring)
Reply-To: Geddis@CS.Stanford.Edu
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: 31 Jul 92 20:47:30 GMT

solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky) writes:
>This is wrong. You completely ignore phsychology. There isn't a constant
>probability that a given team will win the volley when serving, and when not.
>It varys throughout the game due to psychological effects. This has a HUGE
>impact on the optimal way to play. Blowing a serve can lower the server's
>morale and worsen communication within the team for a few points. In a regular
>game this is nothing. In speed scoring, it can be fatal.

This makes a lot of sense, and is as good an explanation as anything for
why teams change their style of play.  The problem is, that it's not a good
way to play.  Experienced teams play much better to a large extent because
they're able to overcome poor mental attitudes.

The same thing happens in normal games.  If your opponents get some huge
thunderous kill for a sideout, or roof one of your hitters straight down,
the natural temptation is to be disappointed and to go a little flat in the
next few points.  _This is bad!_  Your game becomes much, much better when
you fully accept that each point is as important as each other point, and
that siding out with a dink is _just as good_ as siding out with some huge
hit.

Moral:  A coach, worried about playing under rally scoring, would do much
better to explain the situation and overcome the hypothetical bad psychology,
than to give in to it and say "better serve easy, because we don't want to
get the whole team down."

	-- Don Geddis
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