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From: hship@sw.stratus.com (Howard Ship)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: "Reality" of C&H
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:46:57 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

The central question of Calvin & Hobbes is whether Calvin's adventures
(including Hobbes) actually take place.  This is regardless of whether
the parental units can see them (because their conceptual reality would
reject ANY evidence of Calvin's alternate reality).

As magic observers, we can definately proove the actuallity of 
Calvin's reality.  Obviously, we want too, because that prooves
the Hobbes exists.

I can think of several strips, especially those involving the duplicator
box, where Calvin either:   a) gained information from an "adventure"
that would not be possible in ordinary reality, or b) accomplished an
action that required his reality (such as being in two places at once).

-- 
"Is that real blood?" 
Howard_Ship@vos.stratus.com
From: mudcr@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (David C Roller)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Mr. Boffo Books?
Keywords: Mr. Boffo Joe Martin Books
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:09:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: uxa.1992Apr14.210920.15272
Organization: Educational Computing Network

In article <1992Apr12.175812.891@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> ack@coos.dartmouth.edu (Andy J. Williams) writes:
>Also, what else does he write and are books available for them?
Joe Marin also writes a cartoon called Porterfield.  The onky place I
have seen it is in the Chicago Sun-Times Business section.  It is a box
not a strip ala far side and Herman.  It is fairly similar to Boffo  no
weederman and not nearly as funny.  He does Hell a lot in strips.
One of my favorites is one devil talking to another in Hell.  "You know
one time I'd like to see a positive evaluation card that isn't filled
with sarcasm.


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From: tmw4r@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Thomas Munroe Walsh)
Subject: Re: Calvin and Hobbes Question
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:05:53 GMT

In article <me.703259890@dude> me@dude.pcs.com (Michael Elbel) writes:
>In <1992Apr8.171237.4360@techbook.com> gummitch@techbook.com (Jeff Frane) writes:
>
>>potential.  Another great thing about _him_ is that he has vowed never
>>to exploit C&H: no Calvin mugs, no Hobbs t-shirts.
>
>Not true. I have this Calvin and Hobbes T-shirt at home and are very proud
>of it. I haen't seen anything else with C&H on it, fortunately.
>
>Michael
>--
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>PCS GmbH, Muenchen, Germany	|  aber duerfen haben wir uns nicht getraut.
>   me@dude.pcs.com 		|  - Karl Valentin

But the T-shirt was not authorized by Watterson and instead is a "bootleg."

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From: sahul@loading-zone.Stanford.EDU (Zakir H. Sahul)
Subject: Calvin and Hobbes
Keywords: Names
Reply-To: sahul@loading-zone.Stanford.EDU (Zakir H. Sahul)
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: su
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 02:30:51 GMT

Questions for fellow Calvin and Hobbes fans:

1) What is Calvin's last name?
	- I have not read a single strip where his last name is 
	  mentioned.  (But I haven't read them all.)
2) What are Calvin's parents' first names?
	- They always call one another by Dear etc.


Please help...
From: graham@cs.washington.edu (Stephen Graham)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Kudzu
Keywords: Southern Humor
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:11:15 GMT
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle

In article <steph.702782361@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu> steph@cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson) writes:
>In <mp_rc.24@cox.nsac.ns.ca> mp_rc@cox.nsac.ns.ca (ROB CHUTE) writes:
>>One of the main papers in the Province used to carry a strip called "Kudzu".
>>It disapeared(sp?) from the paper some time ago.
>
>>Does anyone out there know if it is still being drawn, and if there are any 
>>compliations available?
>
>I think there are two compilations out there.  One is
>"There's no business like snow (?) business"
>with the preacher on the cover.

The other is "Double-Wide with a View".

You might also want to look at Doug Marlette's editorial
cartooning collection "Shred This Book."

-- 
Stephen Graham
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From: jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey)
Subject: Re: Family Circus
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 03:59:02 GMT

In article <Apr.7.17.14.07.1992.1764@electron.rutgers.edu> tvaughan@electron.rutgers.edu (Timothy E. Vaughan) writes:
>Hooray!  Someone shares my loathing of this strip!  In college my
>roommate and I had a contest to see which strip was stupider:
>Family Circus or Nancy.  We each rated the strip every day for a month
>or so, and the low score would be the stupider.
>
>I couldn't believe that Nancy was stupider, since I was betting on
>Family Circus.  Maybe it was a statistical anomaly.  Anyway, I detest
>both of them.
>

One of the best things I've ever heard about the Family Circus was a comment
made in a Cleveland newspaper readers' poll on comic strips (from sometime
in either January or March of 1990), wherein one reader wrote [slightly
paraphrased]:  "I'd like to see all those obnoxious oval-headed kids shot,
disembowled, and thrown into the Cuyahoga. And don't even ask me what I'd
like to see happen to those stupid gremlins!"

	-- Jim C. <jchokey@leland.stanford.edu>
From: davis@gauss.enet.dec.com (Peter Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: I Go Pogo
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:37:01 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


I thought the Doyle/Sternecky and the Sternecky incarnations were pretty good,
although no match for Walt Kelly's writing.  I think the P&C (Peter and Carol)
Kelly incarnation is ATROCIOUS!!!  It totally lacks subtlety,
characterization, or, for that matter, humor.

I think it's interesting that the authorship of the strip switched shortly
after public outcry caused the Boston Globe to revive the strip (after
dropping it to make room for Non Sequitur).  If the P&C Kelly version had
already been running for a while, there might not have been such an outcry.

                   /
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From: sether@cae.wisc.edu (Steven Sether)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: C & H number one!?
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:53:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Apr7.195322.13654
Distribution: rec
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison

In article <KILCUP.92Apr7203727@einstein.mps.ohio-state.edu> kilcup@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (Greg Kilcup) writes:
>Having been overwhelmed with 50 message this first day of
>the rec.arts.comics.strips, I can't believe that nobody
>even mentioned the obvious number one strip:
>
>            ==================
>            ==  Doonesbury  ==
>            ==================
>
>I mean, C+H, Foxtrot and Far Side are certainly all up there,
>but one must admit that Doonesbury out-classes them all.
>
>Shall I assume that since it is published on the editorial
>pages of many papers, many of you forgot about it?
>

Doonsebury is sometimes pretty good, but many times I don't think it is that
funny.  I Just think that C&H is a better strip.  The latest stuff out of 
Doonsebury about the democratic candidates just doesn't make me laugh.  I did
like when Doonseburie's wife took the job driving a cab, and drove all over 
city, and into another state with one of her passengers.
From: v106lr4h@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric T Sasse)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Mr. Boffo Rules! (Was: Re: Calvin and Hobbes)
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:47:00 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.strips
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <BMD9z3.CuH@world.std.com>, bobsoron@world.std.com (Bob Soron) writes...
>In article <53817@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt4646a@prism.gatech.EDU (Rob Beauchamp)
>writes:
>> 
>This particular strip also had my favorite Mr. Boffo T-shirt:
>"With Velcro, gravity is obsolete."
> 
    "People who live in grass houses should not throw goats."
    "What! A fly on the lens? Oh great, now you tell me! -Carl Sagan"

  Haven't seen this strip in years! Isn't it the same author who draws 
Willie and Ethel? Now THAT'S humor too!!!!

   Willie: "What? Leftovers again?"
   Ethel: " That's not leftovers, in your eating frenzy yesterday you ate
                your napkin."
   Willie: "Touche'."

                                                  -Eric 
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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Fox Trot
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:15:52 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.072546.29965@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> manley@iies.ecn.purdue.edu (HELD HOSTAGE -- YEAR ONE) writes:
>>Amend does pay a lot of attention to detail in 'throwaway lines'.  For 
>>example, most equations that Jason uses are correct, Peter's physics book
>>is Skoog/West/Holler (a very popular univ. text, identifiable by a green
>>cover with a yellow wave)
>Pardon my lapse into geekdom, but isn't this Halliday and Resnick?  The
>last edition of that physics text was green with a yellow wave on it.  That's
>what I thought of when I saw the strip.

Oops, you're right... the authors i mentioned wrote a chemistry book.  Sorry
about the mixup.
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From: goldm@sage4a.its.rpi.edu (Mitchell E. Gold)
Subject: Re: Calvin and Hobbes
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
	<1992Apr8.005143.10307@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:50:21 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.005143.10307@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> hobbes@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (timothy.j.burke) writes:
   The wisdom of Hobbes goes far beyond that of a six year
   old boy, Hobbes is REAL and IS ALIVE!!!!!
--
But is Calvin really a six year-old?


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From: magundi@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (john macdonald)
Subject: Stanley??????? 
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:56:17 GMT



Does anyone know if the strip Stanley ever had any collections
published?  Does anyone that might have a collection of Stanley be
interested in selling it?

john
From: gummitch@techbook.com (Jeff Frane)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Mass sexism and racism in Beetle Bailey
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:24:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: techbook.1992Apr8.172429.4815
Organization: TECHbooks of Beaverton Oregon - Public Access Unix

n8742883@gonzo.cc.wwu.edu (Perry Pederson) writes:


>	Is anyone else out there slightly bothered by the sexism and
>racism that the Beetle Bailey strip has?  Year after year General
>Halftrack is always leering at his secretary or saying something
>sexist to/about her, which really doesn't have that much humor value
>(at least to me....)  The addition of the love-starved female officer
>(?) who is always chasing after Sarge is also a very sexist protrayal
>of females:  If a woman isn't a sex object, she is always desperatley
>looking for romance/sex/etc.  Only the small-breasted plain looking
>secretary in Halftrack's office is the only _normal_ reoccuring female
>character in the comic strip, but her only characterization in the
>strip is to frown at Halftrack's advances on Buxley.

>	Not only is Beetle Bailey sexist, but the addition of the
>japanese soldier Yo (I forget his rank) protrays the american
>stereotype of a japanese person: Hardworking to a fault, comically
>loyal to superior officers, zero imagination, and following rules to a
>literal extreme-- just like all good little japanese workers act,
>right?

>	I know that some people will not share my attitudes, and I
>know that it's "just a comic strip".  I just want to post my opinion
>that a comic strip that has the recurring themes of sexism and racism
>isn't really funny at all.

>	Please post comments, flames, etc. to rec.arts.comics.strips
>to get a thread going....

I've frequently wondered why The Oregonian has never printed any letters
objecting to Beetle, for just the reasons you mention.  I was really
appalled when Yo was added -- jeez, maybe it's time for _me_ to write
the letter.

--Jeff Frane

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From: magundi@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (john macdonald)
Subject: Re: Hobbes (w/o Calvin) bumpersticker..where can I get one?
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:49:20 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.204651.10618@oz.plymouth.edu> pyr491@oz.plymouth.edu (Scott Bernier) writes:
>
>    I saw last year on some car bumper somewhere:
>
>    A bumpersticker that at first looked like the Greatfull Dead sticker
>with their logo bears.  Closer inspection revealed it was not those bears
>but Hobbes in various dance positions...each one a different color
>like the GD (that's Greatful Dead and not G*d D**n) bears.
>

Go to a Dead concert.
They have T's and other stuff with Calvin and Hobbes.

A friend has a great T with Spaceman Spliff landing on a planet and
getting high with Hobbes.

john
From: trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: stupid strips
Keywords: dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:43:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: hubcap.1992Apr8.034358.15330
Organization: Jes Grew Carriers -- Metaphysical Bunko Squad

dove@elaine9.Stanford.EDU (Dav Somebody) writes:

>Hey, what do you think the stupidest strips out there are?  I have to
>admit, though hating Family Circus, it at least attempts to be funny.
>Fred Basset however has got to be the worst thing to appear in print.
>Does anyone find this strip funny in the least? How did this guy ever
>get published?

HEY!  Fred Bassett is STUPID.  I actually thought it was done by some
guy from Greenville, SC (since I haven't ever seen it in any other
paper except the Greenville _News_.  And I thought that the only
reason they kept it at all was because he must have been a local.
My god it's bad.  My old roommate and I wondered if it was maybe 
leading up to something profoundly funny, but we abandoned that idea
after following it for a while.
 
>As for interesting new(?) strips, anyone see Overboard or Robotman?
>Both of these strips are pretty good, and definitely give me a good
>chuckle from time to time.

However, Overboard is one of the most consistently funny strips I 
have ever seen.  Similarly, I have followed it waiting for its 
characters to *once* appear civil to one another.  It hasn't happened 
yet, and I love it.  There is no remorse, no feeling or love at all 
between those pirates, and it is strangely hilarious.
 
Trevor Bauknight         trev@hubcap.clemson.edu    ...gatech!hubcap!trev
 
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From: gthomas@unixg.ubc.ca (Guy R Thomas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Calvin and Hobbes
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:54:12 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada

In <1992Apr7.222128.30505@m.cs.uiuc.edu> bharat@cs.uiuc.edu (R. Bharat Rao) writes:

>None from this quarter -- especially after Opus and Bill hung it up
>(``Outland'' is no patch on ``Bloom County''), everything else is a
>far second.

Not a big fan of 'personal is the political'?

Outland is *much* more evolved than Bloom County.

>--
>R. Bharat Rao, E-mail: bharat@cs.uiuc.edu (bharat@kbesrl.me.uiuc.edu)
>AI Group, Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and Technology
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Guy
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From: taube@oregon.uoregon.edu (Christian Taube)
Subject: How on earth did it happen...
Organization: University of Oregon
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 07:42:28 GMT

...that there has been a rec.arts.comics group around forever
in which only random postings about strips appeared...

...and now that we have a r.a.c.strips I get 170 articles in
a little less than 20 hours?

Weird ways of Usenet or what...

Christian.
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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Chicago Tribune Comics Section
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:14:33 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.025432.19823@nic.unh.edu> ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink) writes:
>>I'll add mine...
>Why don't I add to it, too?  Who knows?  Maybe I'll be able to *agree* with
>Hucke here, if not in rec.humor....  :-)

Hey, I haven't flamed you in at least a month... :)


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From: ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder)
Subject: Re: Calvin and Hobbes Snowmen
Organization: Why?
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 21:12:41 GMT

More of my favorite calvin snowmen:

A whole bunch of tiny snowmen and Calvin with that look on his face 
pretending he's Godzilla about to smash them all.

Dad coming home from work and walking by a whole line of saluting
snowmen. Dad says "He knows I hate this."

A snowman holding its head in its outstretched arms. The head has a very
surprised look on its face.

-Steve-
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From: ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink)
Subject: Re: Calvin and Hobbes Question
Organization: Turkey Hall
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 22:57:02 GMT

>Waterson actually pissed off a lot of papers, and a lot
>have decided to stop running C and H as a result. Something to do with him
>insisting on drawing bigger, more colourful strips in the Sunday editions.
>Anyway, I side with Waterson - it's about time people stopped letting
>themselves be pushed around by the papers and publishers. Look at disney
>comics these days; they don't have nearly as much bright colours as they
>used to, because publishers are trying to cut costs. 

Eyuh.  That's a big peeve of mine, too.  As I recall, Watterson said something
about that in the back of one of his books.  I agree 100% .  Strips today
don't get to show off their full potential because of all the idiot
penny-pinching newspapers.  Blah!

Sorry, just letting off a little steam....
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From: derek@netcom.com (Derek LeLash)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Calvin and Susie- whaddya think?
Date: 17 Apr 92 05:24:41 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Apr17.004030.12667@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> japg6581@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (John A. Petterchak) writes:
>cs132102@cs.brown.edu (Simon Park) writes:
>
>>I love the interaction between Calvin and Susie Derkins. The ST (sexual
>>tension) between the two rivals anything on tv or the movies. I think 
>>Hobbes serves as the alter-ego for Calvin in that he displays how Calvin
>>secretly feels for her (What a babe! Yow!). The two 'adult' versions
>>that Watterson has drawn, when they're playing 'house` and `doctor' and he
>>draws them as some serial comics are drawn, are some of the funniest I've
>>ever seen. And, dare I say it, Susie is pretty cute in them.
>
>>Simon Park
>
>Yes!!
>
>I agree,  these have to rate among my most favorite C&H strips!!  The one where
>Susie brings home a "baby" (really Mr. Bun) is a classic!!!
>
>John Petterchak
>japg6581@cso.uiuc.edu

And there's one where Calvin plays a doctor, with the opening line:
"Okay, what's wrong with you?  Like I care."    :-)

Derek
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From: andyh@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Andrew Holyer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Doonesbury (sp?)
Date: 14 Apr 92 10:58:12 GMT
Organization: University of Sussex

In article <1992Apr9.153458.12484@csd.brispoly.ac.uk> pm3_norr@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (Paul Norris) writes:
>
>Come again?  I know you said later that you were referring to the early
>stuff - Doonesbury these days is (IMO) satirical rather than sarcastic.  
>Do any US papers carry "If..." which runs in The Guardian. The UK paper
>which also carries Doonesbury - it's quite a culture shock sometimes
>reading the one after the other when they're on the same topic.
>
>Compared to If.. Doonesbury is extremely subtle, or maybe it's just that If..
>is extremely UNsubtle and definitely sarcastic.  Don't get me wrong, I like 
>both (and mourn the days when I could read those two *and* Bloom County on 
>the same page).

I agree. Those were certainly halcion days. I'm only sad now because I
won't get to see what Steve Bell would do with a  government he agreed
with.

Andy "Buy Dead Dogs!" Holyer



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