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From: Joel Sumner <js17@cornell.edu>
Subject: Powerbook 100 battery and sleep
X-Xxdate: Wed, 2 Sep 92 11: 07:46 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: js17@cornell.edu
Organization: Trapped at Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:03:02 GMT

Ok, this may be a FAQ.  If so, please e-mail me the place where I can
find the information (ftp site, etc...)

I just bought a Powerbook 100 and I want to find out a bit about the
battery and sleep before I screw the thing up.

1) What is the recommended way to get the most life (in years) out of the
battery?
Is it better to leave the PB plugged in all of the time to keep the
battery topped up.  Or should it only be recharged when the battery is
semi-low? (I know not to discharge it ALL the way.  That is bad).  If it
is advisable to only recharge the battery when low, and since the
battery gets recharged while the machine is in use under AC power, should
the battery be "disconnected" while the machine is running under AC power?

2) How is "sleep" mode different from Shutdown (in terms of portability).
 What happens if you always "sleep" the machine rather than shut it down.
 Can I move the machine while it is in "sleep"?  Thanks


E-mail please, I'll summarize....
Joel Sumner
js17@cornell.edu
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From: mlevins@metz.une.edu.au (Martin Levins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: How do you zap PRAM under Sys7?
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:36:11 GMT
Reply-To: mlevins@metz.une.edu.au
Originator: mlevins@metz.une.edu.au

From article <22521@sybase.sybase.com>, by bill@kirkwood.sybase.com (Bill McFarland):
> What is parameter RAM, why would one "zap" it (what does "zap" mean?), how
> do you know if you need to zap it?

Paramter RAM holds all those things that you don't want to reset every
time your Mac gets turned on - time, date etc (and a host of other stuff)

To reset: Hold Command-Option -p-r



Martin Levins                               Internet: mlevins@metz.une.edu.au
Director of Computing                                     Applelink: AUST0479
The Armidale School                                      Phone: +61.67.738219
Australia                                                  Fax: +61.67.738230
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Bruce.Hoult@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Ban FIDONet? (flameproof)
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 02:04:00 GMT

In article <D88-JWA.92Aug30222625@dront.nada.kth.se> d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte) writes:
> 
> Can't you tell someone who forgot to log out and has had a very
> bad taste "joke" played on him.

Sure looks likely to me.
-- 
Bruce.Hoult@bbs.actrix.gen.nz   Twisted pair: +64 4 477 2116
BIX: brucehoult                 Last Resort:  PO Box 4145 Wellington, NZ
"Cray's producing a 500 MIPS personal computer with 256MB RAM and 8 GB
hard disk that fits in your pocket!"   "Great!  Is it PC compatible?"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer
From: keith@taligent.com (Keith Rollin)
Subject: Re: # of files
Organization: Taligent
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:18:19 GMT

In article <BtLr5D.Hy7@iat.holonet.net>, kellys@orac.holonet.net (Kelly
Schwarzhoff) writes:
> 
> > - each volume is partitioned to a maximum of 2^16 = 65536 blocks. 
> >   The blocksize is a multiple of 512 Bytes. 
> >   The result: on a 30 MB-hard disk each block is 512 bytes, on larger
> > volumes 
> >   the blocksize will be increased. On a 200 MB hard disk the
> > blocksize will be 
> >   3.5 KBytes, on a CD-ROM or 650 MB hard disk the size is about 10
> > KBytes.
> 
> Is there anyway to get around this limit? I have a 600MB drive and have it
> formatted so that each block is 10k and can't find a way to have smaller
> blocks.  Is the limit of 2^16 due to the operating software or just the
> software that formats the drive.
> 
> The reason I'm asking this is that we're setting up a large FirstClass BBS
> software and it stores every message as a file and you cannot have the
> messages in seperate volumes / partitions.  I'm running System 7.0 on a IIfx.

The limit of 2^16 allocation blocks is due to the HFS format. All the data
structures used to keep track of where files are located on the volume use
2-byte values for the block number.

The only way to get more room from your 600MB drive is to partition it into two
or more smaller logical volumes. Or rewrite the File Manager.

--
Keith Rollin
Phantom Programmer
Taligent, Inc.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: ian@syacus.acus.oz.au (Ian Joyner)
Subject: Re: Windows NT = Death of the Mac?
Organization: ACUS Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Sydney
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 02:02:03 GMT

A couple of follow up comments here. Firstly, the assumption was that a
$1,300 PC with NT might kill Macs. I don't think so. This is common
market pressure, and Apple will adjust their prices to compete, before
closing their doors and going home.

Secondly, the assumption that Windows 3.1 is anywhere close to the Mac.
It is not. It is a nightmare to install, separates the file manager
from program manager, and generally is not a neat and consistently
thought out interface like the Mac. So Mac owners can breath easy, they
are still way out in front of Windows. Especially when you have to
configure all these .INI files. A nightmare. Also to rename a file, you
just can't edit or type over the name directly as you can with Finder,
you have to choose "Rename..." from the File menu, which brings up a
dialog box. On the Mac, dialog boxes are a last resort.

Lastly, about the death of Unix in Byte. I think it is really an interesting
question as to whether Unix will be around in 10 years, or whether it will
be useful for anything. The industry seems to be becoming polarised in two
different directions, that must live together out of necessity. That is
mainframes, which a large scale repositories of shared data, and workstations,
that provide a nice user view of the central repositories. Due to the Unix
architecture, it is not particularly capable of providing the high
transaction volume required for central repositories with 1000s and
10 of 1000s of users all logged on at once. Unix is also too fiddly
for workstations. It requires a lot of maintenance, which is just not
required on workstations like the Mac. I think that is why NeXT did not
blow Apple away. NeXT of coursewas a box with much more memory, and raw disk
space than the Mac, but once Unix was loaded, what did you have left over?
Not much. But a very meagre Mac with 40Mb disk and 2Mb memory is quite
sufficient for many purposes. Also if anything goes wrong with Unix,
you must drop into guru mode. This is not good for home users of
computers, or for large networked sites, where the operations management
are interested in minimising their maintenance costs.

Unix somehow sits in the middle of mainframes and workstations, but is
not particularly suitable for either task. So where will it be in 10 years?
-- 
Ian Joyner  ACUS (Australian Centre for Unisys Software)    ian@syacus.acus.oz
"Where is the man with all the great directions?...You can't imagine it,
 how hard it is to grow, Can you imagine the order of the universe?" ABWH
Disclaimer:Opinions and comments are personal.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: qman@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Charlie Kuehmann)
Subject: Screen Inverter utility?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Northwestern University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:38:04 GMT

Thanks for all the info, here's a summary.  Under Sys 7 it seems the
easiest solution to inverting the screen is to use the Closeview cdev the
comes with the apple release.  I believe it is on the Install 3 disk and it
is not automatically installed.  You need to copy it from the disk to the
system folder by hand.  Someone suggested the under sys 6 (and doesn't work
under sys 7) there is an fkey in the archives at sumex that would do the
trick but since I'm running 7 I didn't try it out.
Thanks for all the help!
Charlie Kuehmann
Northwestern University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: antkasx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Ken A. Sturrock)
Subject: Re: Windows NT = Death of the Mac?
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:01:04 GMT

Geez Why do net.nerds feel like they need to requote an *entire* post only to
add a few line to the end of it?

Back to the subject though, We all remember when Windows 3.1 ( and 3.0 and 2.0 )
were going to blow the Macintosh out of the water during the last five years
right? Well I guess we'll just have to wait until NT ( or whatever it will be
called next ) actually ships to see how succesful it will be.

							-ks
From: fzchen@othello.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Windows NT = Death of the Mac?
Date: 2 Sep 92 01:39:28 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

In article <1992Sep1.151820.17282@fccc.edu> nick@pixel.rm.fccc.edu (Nick Kokkos) writes:
>Hello Netters. 
>Is it logical to say that an IBM PC machine running Windows NT will be better
>than a Macintosh running System 7.0? For the past 6 months, I have been an

Doubt it.  Good time for a flame war, though.

> The question here is whether Microsoft could come up with a Windows NT version
>that could offer the capabilities system 7.0 offers. In fact, someone told me
>that it would be better if Windows NT could offer what System 7.0 offers because
>someone could buy a PC for $1,300, run Windows NT and off he/she goes. Which

One might also want to figure out what the cost of a PC would be to make
Windows work like a Mac.  Lets not forget that great Apple sales term
"value-added".  Once you figure out the cards you need to support NT 
on a level with the Mac, then compare prices.  That is all part of the
PC price racket, though.  Sell the base box for cheap and don't say 
what its going to cost to get ya computing like a Macintosh.  

I'm not completely aware of what all NT will be, though.  If it doesn't 
somehow replace DOS or use an upgraded DOS I don't see how it could 
really replace System 7.0.  Networking will always be limited by DOS.

Aw, heck, I could go on and on...Just don't forget the pricing, though.
Figure out what you need or will need from your computer in the way of
monitor/color capabilities, sound, network architecture, I/O.  Then 
add some price to that, the cost of time, to this to figure out how
to configure and properly use all software that you will need.  This is 
your PC price.  Now find a Mac that meets those capabilities and add the
time cost (which should be significantly less).  Chances are the Mac will
be cheaper and money better spent.

-MeatHead
From: mikel@cisco.com (Mikel Ravizza)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Users&Groups question
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:56:54 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems, Incorporated


Hello netters,
 
I have a strange problem perhaps someone out there has
encountered.  I have a MacII which is used for file sharing,
it's obviousally slow so I bought a quadra top of the line
killer, fast, 400 megs or so.  Anyway I wanted to make the quadra
the file server.  No problem I just copied all the files over,
including the Users&Groups data file over.  Tried to start it
up and basically everytime got the error "Can't start file sharing,
bad users and groups file".  I'm fairily technical with Mac's, however
being illerate with 7.0 still I'm alittle confused.  There is a
file called appleshare pds which seems to be a pointer between
files and the users and groups - however the bottom line is I
can't copy that file over.  What's weird is I can copy it to any
other Mac on my net besides the quarda so I'm thinking its something
specific.  My friends at apple say it "should be able to happen" but
they had never tried it.  It's basically like not ever being able
to copy /etc/passwd around when you upgrade.
 
Any suggestions would be appreciated..
 
Thx
Mikel
Cisco
From: howie@intermec.com (Howard Kaplan x1696)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: No Color Desktop Patterns
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:02:22 GMT
Reply-To: howie@intermec.com (Howard Kaplan x1696)
Organization: Intermec Corporation, Everett WA

DeskTop Textures (not Patterns) has a "pattern" that brings back normal control
of the DeskTop Pattern.  Just start up Destop patterns a click the left
arrow. This brings up the "control panel comaptible" pattern. Click install
and you will be back to normal. No need to go through all the ResEdit magic
nor re-install system software.  

Howard Kaplan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: chai@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Ian Chai)
Subject: Re: WARNING: HATE POST! (was News)
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:47:05 GMT

Hey, folks, I get the idea that that woman under whose name that hate
post got posted was probably the victim of a prank... I mean, nobody
would be so stupid as to post such a blatantly racist message to, of
all places, comp.sys.mac.system, right? She probably left her machine
logged on or someone cracked her password, right? Right????
From: nerm@apple.com (Dean Yu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: 7.1 in Beta???
Date: 28 Aug 92 00:40:18 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Aug27.144120.29416@bmers95.bnr.ca>, ross@bnr.ca (Ross
Brown) wrote:
> 
> In article <mwalker-260892100415@mwalker1.npd.provo.novell.com.>
> mwalker@novell.com (Mel Walker) writes:
> >What does "Shuswap" mean? BTW, my version of 7.1 says "Sahara+".
> 
> I think it means that the shu is on the other fut.  :-)
> 
> R

  Actually, since 7.1 is supposed to our "world ready" release
of system software, the S words we've been choosing (for the
most part) have been language dialects that start with S.

-- Dean Yu
   Blue Meanie, Negative Ethnic Role Model, etc.
   Apple Computer, Inc.
From: ed@titipu.meta.com (Edward Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Mac Plus with System 7 dies
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:38:17 GMT
Reply-To: ed@titipu.meta.com (Edward Reid)
Organization: Accuracy, Ltd.
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v0

I have a Mac Plus with a Cutting Edge (aka Ehman) hard disk (Seagate
ST138N version lj mechanism).  I want to run System 7 on the Plus. 
(Please don't argue with my decision.  It will make life MUCH easier
for me, and won't hurt the performance of the only application that
runs there.)  The problem is that after I install System 7, the Plus
quickly halts.  It halts with the disk in-use light on and the cpu in a
two-instruction loop doing a test.  The location of the halt is not
consistent -- usually it halts some (varying) place while rebuilding
the desktop, but occasionally that completes and it halts doing
something else a short time later.  System 6 runs perfectly -- it
doesn't get rebooted for weeks at a time.

I've tried:

   Re-installing System 7 -- five times.

   Re-formatting the disk -- several times.

   Re-installing the disk driver -- several times.

   Using a different disk driver (replaced the Cutting Edge driver with 
     Disk Manager Mac).

   Calling Ehman (last year, before they went belly up).

   Calling On Track (makers of Disk Manager Mac).

Both vendors disclaimed responsibility, which seems reasonable given
that two different drivers yielded exactly the same result.

About the only thing I can think of that I haven't tried is changing the
disk interleave -- it is, and always has been, the recommended 1:3.

Does anyone have any idea what is wrong, or what else I might try?

Edward Reid  (8*}>
  eel:   ed@titipu.meta.com  or  nosc.mil!titipu.meta.com!ed
  snail: PO Box 378/Greensboro FL 32330
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Joel Sumner <js17@cornell.edu>
Subject: Another PB Sleep Question
X-Xxdate: Fri, 4 Sep 92 16: 25:51 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: js17@cornell.edu
Organization: Trapped at Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:21:34 GMT

Another question about a PB100 in sleep mode.

1) When I put it in sleep mode, can I turn off my external hard drive? 
If so, when I "unsleep" it, do I have to turn the HD back on and let it
spool up or can I turn it on after I "unsleep" it.

2) Can I disconnect the floppy drive and/or scsi drive while asleep? 
Will that fry things if I "unsleep" it with those things detached?

3) Is there any way to tell if a PB 100 is in sleep mode or shut down
without turning it back on?  It is a pain to think it is in sleep mode,
start it up, and have to go through the whole boot proceedure just to
shut it down again.

Thanks...
Joel Sumner
js17@cornell.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: rowland@zorba7.larc.nasa.gov (Michael W. Rowland)
Subject: Re: NEWS
Reply-To: rowland@zorba7.larc.nasa.gov (Michael W. Rowland)
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA 23665  USA
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:31:49 GMT

In article <65063@cup.portal.com>, MacUserLabs@cup.portal.com (Stephan - 
Somogyi) writes:
> Path: 
> 
news.larc.nasa.gov!darwin.sura.net!haven.umd.edu!uunet!portal!cup.portal.com!M
ac
> UserLabs
> From: MacUserLabs@cup.portal.com (Stephan - Somogyi)
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
> Subject: Re: NEWS
> Message-ID: <65063@cup.portal.com>
> Date: Tue,  1 Sep 92 09:05:38 PDT
> Organization: The Portal System (TM)
> Distribution: na
> References:  <715352419.F00001@blkcat.UUCP>
> Lines: 12
> 
> Dan.Hughes@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dan Hughes) writes:
> 
> >Oh, brother. Why don't you get in a time machine and go back to Nazi
> >Germany circa 1933 and sleep with Hitler you fascist, racist bitch! Then
> >the allied bombers can bomb your bigotted ass in to oblivion with the rest
> >of that sorry country.
> 
> Someone recently suggested disconnecting FidoNet from the Internet. I would
> like to second that motion.
> 
> __________________________________________________________________________
> Stephan Somogyi            puzzle-piece together-putter            MacUser
I suggest we disconnect this bitch from the world!!!
(Is FidoNet that bad?)

Mike

Mike Rowland, Aerosol Research Branch, MS 475
NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton VA 23665
internet: rowland@zorba7.larc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: steinman@is.morgan.com (Jan Steinman)
Subject: Re: Help with FKeys
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Company
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:32:22 GMT

In article <1676@sousa.ltn.dec.com> long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long) writes:
   In article <1992Sep2.014153.903@news.acns.nwu.edu>, eepmatt@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Matthew Friedman) writes...
   >Could someone please tell me how to install an FKey like, say, SpinD?

    ...Remember that the FKEY's resource ID determines what key combination is used
    to invoke it. For example, if the ID is 0, Command/Shift/0 would be used to
    invoke it.

    CE's Quickeys can assign other key combinations to FKEYs, which lets you get
    around the ten FKEY limit imposed by the Command/Shift/0-9 keys.

Yes, but QuicKeys has it's *own* rather small limit! (Grrr!)

I have hundreds of FKEYs in one file, which I use CarpetBag to get at.
I then use FunKEY, which makes them all accessible via a screen-corned
menu.

--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: krona@cyklop.nada.kth.se (Kjell Krona)
Subject: Re: comp.sys.mac.powerbook
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 05:41:12 GMT


< However, I do feel that the PowerBook series (and the Portable b/c the
< PowerBook 100 is just a "Honey I Shrank the Portable"), with their inherent
< differences warrant a news group of their own,

I agree that the PowerBooks would need a group of their own, since they
have some special requirements both for hardware and software which is
not applicable to other Macs. Most other Mac models are quite similar to
each other, differing only in speed and color support.

And I do not see why group profileration would be such a bad thing (and
certainly not warranting wasting net and human bandwidth on such a shower
of disingeneous and tasteless displays of "humor" as we recently witnessed).
Reading comp.sys.mac.system today is a case of grave information overload,
and although some new newsreaders such as nuntius do their best to sort out
the tangle, this can only be done on the basis of diffuse and unstructured
header information; and besides, it only works over ethernet and wastes a
lot of space on your local disc. I believe there should be several more
layers to the group structure, so anyone can easily set their personal
profile and have a fair chance to know what that would result in.

 - kjell	krona@nada.kth.se	Dept of Computer Science
		Royal lnstitute of Technology	Stockholm, Sweden
From: krazykid@csa.bu.edu (Ernest Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: HELP NEEDED: File lost
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:31:52 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Boston University Computer Science Department

Hello all.  I was wondering if anyone could help me out or if this has
occured to anyone else.  A friend of mine was making back-up on System
7 by just duplicating the file.  In the middle of duplicating the
file it stopped.  After it stopped, the icon disappeared and we can't
seem to recover the original file.  Unfortunately my friend had
deleted the old back-up file before making a new one.  I was wondering
if this has happend to anyone else, and the different possible
solutions to this problem.  I think the pointer to the location of the
file on the hard drive was some how erased.  We are hoping the file is
still on the hard drive, it's just a matter of finding the location of
it.  If anyone has any ideas, comments (useful please), or suggestions
please e-mail me.  Thanks!!

Ernie
krazykid@csa.bu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: cary@jove.Colorado.EDU (John R. Cary)
Subject: Disappearing icons for alias residing on another drive
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 17:23:54 GMT

Thanks to all for replying to my last post.  Since then I have

1.  rebuilt my desktop.

2.  Reformatted my drive and rebuilt the system.

3.  Made my desktop files visible (via ResEdit) on all volumes, thrown 
    them away,
    and rebooted so that the desktop files are rebuilt from scratch.

Yet my disappearing icons problem remains.  It occurs only to files
which reside on a non-system volume, yet have aliases on the system
volume (in the menu items folder).  Upon rebuild, the aliases are good.
After the next reboot without a rebuild, the alias icons revert to the
generic type.  Moreover, the icons disappear on the volume where the
original file resides.

Has anyone else seen this problem?  Has anyone fixed it?

Thanks...John Cary

    
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John R. Cary                                  cary@boulder.colorado.edu
Department of Astrophysical, Planetary and Atmospheric Sciences
University of Colorado, Boulder, CO 80309-0391
ph. (303) 492-1489                                   fax (303) 492-0642
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system