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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:23:05 EDT
From:         mhorney@OREGON.BITNET
Subject:      Keyboarding Problems

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I would like to add different perspective to the questions about
keyboarding that have appeared recently.

I've been doing research in the area of "Electronic Studying" in the past
few years and have watched several different middle and high schools
struggle with the problem of keyboarding. The general solution has been to
offer across the board instruction to all students.

Now, while this instruction is generally effective, students do learn to
keyboard with acceptable speed and accuracy, it does tend to absorb a large
fraction of the available computing resources. In one middle school 5 of
the 7 available computer lab periods were preempted by "computer literacy"
classes, consisting primarily of keyboarding instruction. ALL other
computer activities were relegated to the two remaining periods. We found
that most students lost their keyboarding skills through in attention.

Keyboarding is a critically important skill, but I wonder about the
ultimate effectiveness of wholesale instruction that leaves little time for
these skills to be employed. Nor can secondary schools simply expect
elementary schools to solve this problem for them.


Mark Horney
School of Education
University of Oregon
Eugene, OR 97403
mhorney@oregon.uoregon.edu
(503) 346-2679
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:26:25 EDT
From:         "Michael Gaffney, Dunedin NZ" <EDUCJMG@otago.ac.nz>
Subject:      Re: Keyboarding skills? Help needed!

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Some ideas on Keyboarding.  Down under in New Zealand there maybe one
computer per classroom which makes it difficult to get a lot of time on keys
for the kids.  What some teachers do is to get kids thinking about the
keyboard before they get there.  This includes making songs up using
keyboard rows.  e.g. qwerty U I O P sung to a tune familiar to the kids.
Kids in the lower grades  take to this quite well.  Another idea is to
get kids to practice keyboard letter sequences during handwriting lessons.
This familiarises them with the layout even before they reach the computer.
With only a few computers in the school the next possibility is to bring all
the computers to one room (staff room, Library, resource room etc) and withdraw
kids from their regular class to spend 10-30 minutes on a machine using typing
tutorials.  This can work when the computers have just arrived in the school
and each class will be getting one. If for the first 6-10 weeks the computers
are in one room familiarization can be more effective and intensive with
a small amount of time spent on the computers each day.  Thus preparing
the kids for keyboard use when they encounter the computer in their classroom.

Michael Gaffney
Education Dept
Otago University
Dunedin
New Zealand
educjmg@otago.ac.nz
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 00:19:42 EDT
From:         "Timofeyev V.F." <vftim@finans.rostov-na-donu.su>
Subject:      Russia is looking for Financial Colleges/Schools

    Hi all!
    I  am looking  for  colleagues   of  foreign  financial/bank
colleges (secondary/high/? schools)  to  establish  professional
and  personal  contacts and friendly relations.
    We are living in Rostov-on-Don - the big green city   (above
1000000 inhabitants) on the Don river. Our college- Rostov School
of Finance, where about  900  students  from  all  North Caucasus
(basically  15/19-years-old girls)  are  studying and training on
financial professions.
    We have IBM-compatible computers;   unfortunately, we are the
o n l y   financial Rissian school with E-mail, :-( .
    We  would  like  to  have  some  information on your College;
education system in your country;  your advances and problems in
teaching and training of boys and girls (on informatics, English-
German-French  language  studying,   budgeting  and   accounting,
banking,  insurance and taxation, laws, using computers and local
networks, E-mail and computer games, etc.); corresponding books,
practical manuals,  software for  students, curriculum; scouting.
    A group of 5-7 teachers and students could be received for a
week in July-August of 1992/93.
    Q.: Which USENET or other conferences are commonly used for
discussion on financial colleges and financial education system?

   !! All required information on all financial/bank colleges and
institutes of Russia and XUSSR Republics could be sent (including
E-mail addresses (if necessary) !!

   With the best wishes   - Vladimir F. Timofeyev
                            Chief engineer on PCs of the RSF
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P.S.   If you are not interested in our proposals, pass this
message to a nearby college or secondary school, or into some
educational net, please.
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:21:04 EDT
From:         rokelly@iastate.edu
Subject:      GIF files to Macintosh

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Does anyone have specifics on how to convert a MS-DOS based GIF file,
into one a Macintosh can read.  Specifics on software, procedures,
server one can use to FTP the conversionion software, will be *greatly*
appreciated.

Bob Kelly
Fellows Elementary School
Ames, Iowa  50010  USA

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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:18:01 EDT
From:         "Dennis H. Sorge" <POX@PURCCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Gradebook and Test Bank Programs

For test production look to Exam in a Can, IPS Publishing, Inc, 31316 Via Colin
as, Suite 110, Westlake Village, CA 91362

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:44:55 EDT
From:         Gleason Sackman <sackman@plains.nodak.edu>
Subject:      FTP server (fwd)

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

---------- Text of forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 09:45:33 EDT
From: James Powell <JPOWELL@vtvm1.bitnet>
To: Multiple recipients of list CATALYST <CATALYST@vtvm1.bitnet>
Subject: FTP server

Announcing the Scholarly Communications FTP Server

 The Scholarly Communications Project of Virginia Tech with the support of
 University Libraries would like to announce the establishment of an FTP server
 for all scholarly electronic journals published at VPI.  Titles which were
 previously available only by subscription to listserv lists include:

_The Community Services CATALYST_
_Journal of Technology Education_
_Journal of the International Academy of Hospitality Research_
_The International Journal of Analytical and Experimental Modal Analysis_

Also available at this FTP site are the monthly logs for VPIEJ-L, issues of
the electronic version of the _Newsletter of the Visual Communication Division
of the Association for Education in Journalism and Mass Communication_, as well
as frequently asked questions relevant to electronic publishing and tools for
text processing and data compression for various platforms.  The server is
available 24 hours a day for multiple logins via the Internet.

FTP Instructions:
        ftp borg.lib.vt.edu
        cd /pub
        cd /<directory-of-your-choice>
        get <filename>.<filetype>

About the Scholarly Communications FTP server:
The server runs on a NeXTstation Turbo with 24Mb of RAM located at University
Libraries, Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University.

James Powell >>> Systems Support and Development, University Libraries, VPI&SU
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             >>> Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic Journals

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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1992 14:01:46 EDT
From:         YEAMANA@ZENO.MSC.Colorado.EDU
Subject:      Fitting people to machines?

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

	FITTING PEOPLE TO MACHINES?

	The dialog about keyboarding raises a deeper philosophical issue
beyond practical and immediate training needs.

	My postmodern view is that there is no perfect design solution and
that the design of computers fits into larger myths and illusions about the
computerization of society through education.

	This is a time of clash between speech, print and electronic cultures.
Don Ihde conveys the cognitive experience of writing with steel nib pen
that has to be dipped into ink, for example, in his Technics and Praxis
(1979). Our communication technologies are non-neutral, see C. A. Bowers
The Cultural Dimensions of Educational Computing (1988). Are we moving
from sovereign society through disciplinary society (see Foucault) to
technologies of control (see Deleuze & Guattari) and thereby redefining
issues of resistance and power?

	Andrew R. J. Yeaman, Ph.D.
	Consultant, Yeaman & Associates		Bitnet:yeamana@mscd
	Adjunct Professor, Metropolitan State College of Denver
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:52:21 EDT
From:         maxson@gc.BITNET
Subject:      RE: MAC Conversion of Pkware Zipped Files

There is an application called "UnZip", the version I have is 1.01.  I
think I found it somewhere on the Internet, you can probably find it
someplace that sells MAC's or some such thing...hope that helps.

Paul Maxson
Glendale College Innovation center
Glendale Arizona

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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:47:13 EDT
From:         JOAN VAN DUZER <VANDUZERJ@AXE.HUMBOLDT.EDU>
Subject:      Mac LC II and Apple IIe software

Anyone out there running Apple IIe software on a Mac LC II?  I heard a
rumor that the Mac LC II must use System 7 but the Apple IIe software is
incompatible with System 7.  Can anyone give me a True or False from
personal experience?
Thanx.
- Joan Van Duzer
  College of Professional Studies
  Humboldt State University
  Arcata, CA  95521

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:42:44 EDT
From:         NOONAN@MSUS1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Suggest BBS Shareware

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I run two wildcat boards and am very pleased with the software. It's
cheap ($129 for single line), easy to install and maintain, and very
flexible. Contact Mustang software for more information:
Sales (805) 395-0223 BBS (805) 395-0650

If you want to see it in action on MetroLine, call (612) 224-8086.

Dana Noonan
Metronet
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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1992 14:01:06 EDT
From:         NOONAN@MSUS1.BITNET
Subject:      A few stats

----------------------------Original message----------------------------


At the risk of starting a net flame-war, I would like to share
a few statistics on forwarded messages:

A search of the archives of EDTECH, NETTRAIN, and PACS-L for
the term "fwd" since 1/1/92 yielded the following results:

            EDTECH          NETTRAIN          PACS-L
Jan           3
Feb
Mar           1
Apr          23                                 1
May          43                                 1
Jun          52                1                9
Jul          52               32                5
Aug          49                6                6

Total       223               39               22

August numbers only through 8/27/92

Perhaps it's time for edtech to start an edtech-forward list.

Dana Noonan
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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1992 14:02:56 EDT
From:         Yoko Okita <YOKITA@UHCCVX.UHCC.HAWAII.EDU>
Subject:      Re: learning style tests

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I am developing a HyperCard program for reading Japanese
scientific texts.  I am interested in the relationship between
learners' learning styles (auditory,visual,hands-on, etc.) and actual
learners' behaviors (how they navigate my program).  I am looking
for psychological tests that assess a learner's learning
preferences.

Thank you in advance

Yoko Okita
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:27:53 EDT
From:         dsmith@mcis.messiah.edu
Subject:      Scanning Software

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
With regard to using OCR software and scanners, I have found "OmniPage
Professional" (be careful--there are a couple different OmniPage products) to be
very effective.  I use it with a PC, Windows 3.1, and a HP ScanJet IIc scanner.

This is not a cheap solution, but "good" OCR never is.  You will not completely
eliminate errors, but with fairly clean copy, errors are minimal and sometimes
nonexistent.  OminPage Pro for the PC can be had for around $600-$700 from mail
order sources, and it works with most scanners, but the quality of your scanner
is important as well.  I have found a few minor glitches in the program and the
way it interprets scanned text, but I can live with them.

We are using it to scan in old minutes from board meetings and such to preserve
them, and I know we will find other uses as well.

OmniPage has products for the Mac as well.

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:44:03 EDT
From:         JWILLIS@Jetson.UH.EDU
Subject:      Re: ISBN HELP

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
This is a reply to Bob Stricklan's request for information on how to get
an ISBN number for a book he is publishing.

ISBN numbers are assigned by the publisher which means a self-publisher
must get the forms to qualify as a publisher.  This is not difficult but
it does require some effort and knowledge.  Dan Poynter's Para Publishing
Company (P. O. Box 4232-P, Santa Barbara, CA 93140 Phone 805 968-7277)
publishes excellent books for self publishers that covers all the bases
including how to get ISBNs.  The book, The Self-Publishing Manual, from
Para Press will provide you with all the information you need.  Para
also sells a set of publishing forms self-publishers may find useful
and the Poynter book, Is There a Book Inside You?, is also good but
deals primarily with the process of developing and writing a book.  It
includes several lists of publications including books and journals that
will be of interest to self publishers.

Jerry Willis
Center for Information Technology in Education
College of Education
University of Houston
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:42:25 EDT
From:         TGAFFNEY@BESTSD.SDSU.EDU
Subject:      RE: Authoring Software

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
The most recent issue of CBT Directions includes an article
discussing 12 authoring systems.  The article by Mark Fritz
relates user comments about each.

Personaly, Computer Based Training Directions has proved to be
a very handy resource for locating CBT hardware, software, and
developers.  For additional information about CBT the magazine
suggests calling 617 542-0146 (Boston, MA).

Tom Gaffney
tgaffney@bestsd.sdsu.edu
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:36:28 EDT
From:         Wayne Debly <DEBLY@ADMIN.HumberC.ON.CA>
Subject:      RE: Keyboarding skills? Help needed!
              21 Aug 1992 12:44:13 EDT from <0002849430@mcimail.com>

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I have not been overly satisfied with all the different typing tutor programs
out there.  I am not sure they are that helpful in teaching typing skills.
 I am experimenting with a class of students this fall with a new method
called the Almena method of teaching.  There is a cost per student or cost
per board/school.  After the first hour you know where all the keys are and
after the next 10 hours you can do 20wpm.  They have all sorts of testamonies
from teachers at all levels.  Once you sign up you have to go away for a one
day training session and then are sworn to secrecy about their method.  I think
it has merit.  I am trying it.  The one advantage a high school teacher told me
was that students are able to type complete sentences after the first hour not
just the "dfdf jkjk..." of the past.

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From:         Jack Lubowsky <LUBOWSKY@SNYBKSAC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Scanning Software
              28 Aug 1992 14:27:53 EDT from <dsmith@mcis.messiah.edu>

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
On Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:27:53 EDT <dsmith@mcis.messiah.edu> said:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>With regard to using OCR software and scanners, I have found "OmniPage
>Professional" (be careful--there are a couple different OmniPage products) to
>be
>very effective.  I use it with a PC, Windows 3.1, and a HP ScanJet IIc scanner.
    We also have been using OmniPage Professional and have found it a bit
    slow. True, we have it on a 16MHz machine, but it still seems slower
    than some of the older packages we ran. You seem to like it. Have you
    compared it to any other packages?
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:22:45 EDT
From:         Lynette Braunhardt <SOEADM79@UCONNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Online Fulltext Magazines

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hi,
     Does anyone know of a way to connect via Internet to a database where
you can search through full-text magazines and newspapers (such as Time,
Newsweek, The Washington Post, etc) and then download the articles.  I know
you can join services such as Dialog and Dow Jones, but I was wondering if
you can do it through Internet  (maybe with Telnet) ?
     Thank you.

Lynette Braunhardt <SOEADM79@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>  Internet Address
                   <SOEADM79@UCONNVM>            Bitnet Address
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