HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore)
Subject: Re: Flash! Environmentalists switch off Earth's volcanoes (was: The Fr
Reply-To: john@anasazi.com
Organization: Anasazi, Inc.  Phoenix, Arizona USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:39:51 GMT

Keywords: 

In article <1992Dec19.215032.18325@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes:
]In article <1992Dec17.220703.410@pmafire.inel.gov> cdm@pmafire.inel.gov (Dale Cook) writes:
]
]>Nobody in science seriously doubts that global warming is happening.

Well, in our local Geography Department, we have 2 climatologists
that I know of that seriously doubt it: Dr. Bob Ballard and 
Dr. Sherwood Idso. In fact, Ballard has published a book that gives an
excellent presentation of the issue: "The Heated Debate." I recommend
it for the science impaired (it would do Rush a lot of good to read it
too - he is out to lunch on many environmental issues).
>
>Here we have it folks.  The intelligent poster claims that NOBODY seriously 
>doubts that global warming is happening.  Since I'm sure that this poster 
>claims to have read ALL the scientific journal articles on the topic, he must 
>believe that all of the completely credible scientists who have written that 
>global warming is NOT occuring (not to mention the thousands who believe that 
>humans have nothing to do with it) are lying??? 
>
>God!  The smugness of the sky-is-falling crowd never fails to amaze me.
>
>Ted
>
>
>-- 
>So the Maples formed a union, and demanded equal rights, "The Oaks are just 
>too greedy.  We will make them give us light!"  Now there's no more Oak 
>oppression, for they passed a noble law.  And the trees are all kept equal, 
>by hatchet, axe and saw.     -  Rush, The Trees


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From: krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.correct
Subject: "My Cabinet" by Clinton (was Re: Affirmative action is dead)
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:10:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson AZ

Anyone remember Clinton saying "My cabinet will more accurately reflect 
the public?"

I wonder how many of his cabinet members will represent the 57% who did 
not vote for him.

Ted



-- 
So the Maples formed a union, and demanded equal rights, "The Oaks are just 
too greedy.  We will make them give us light!"  Now there's no more Oak 
oppression, for they passed a noble law.  And the trees are all kept equal, 
by hatchet, axe and saw.     -  Rush, The Trees
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From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Showering in the Military (Re: Gays in the Military..what nobody is talking about: )
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff and Nonsense Division
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 17:00:27 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.153208.6085@anasazi.com> john@anasazi.com writes:

>In article <1992Dec30.154724.12695@m5.harvard.edu> borden@m5.harvard.edu writes:
>
>]Gays constitute about ten percent of the population.  This is a very
>]significant percentage.
>
>This is a bogus number, also. It is based on a Kinsey study where the
>subjects were self-selected, and where gayness was defined as anyone
>who admitted any single instance in their life of any homosexual
>activity.

Learn to read.

>]>because blackness is not a behavioral trait.
>]
>]So is Christianity.  What's the difference?
>
>Christianity is a belief, not a trait.

Wait, are we talking about those bogus studies where "Christian" is
defined as just anyone belonging to a church of Christian
denomination?

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) / 
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From: pbowden@missing.kludge.com (Pete Bowden)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.homosexual
Subject: Re: Showering in the Military (Re: Gays in the Military..what nobody
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 18:43:44 PST
Organization: The Missing Link BBS, Santa Maria, CA  805-925-1129

briand@anasazi.com (Brian Douglass) writes:

> 
> BTW, in some services, hetro soldiers can still be prosecuted for consential 
> sodomy or oral copulation with a women while on base.  Should Clinton repeal 
> this ban also, while he repeals it for homosexuals?
> 

Just as a point of clarification, Clinton can change or establish an
executive order to allow homosexuals in the military, he cannot as
easily change some of the laws which apply to the code of conduct of
persons in the military.  Specifically it is unlawful for persons to
engage in certain act--sodomy and perhaps oral copulation.  It is
not a law which says that gays cannot enter the military, that is an
executive order.  Thus, it is a bit off to say that Clinton can repeal
the ban of sodomy or any action for homosexuals.  It will be unlawful
for them if it is unlawful for heterosexuals and the law would need to
be changed.

Pete

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From: k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (Bakayaroo Banzai)
Subject: Re: rush?
Organization: Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH, Hamburg
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 09:50:35 GMT

In article <92353.175026MAC135@psuvm.psu.edu> <MAC135@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Rush Limbaugh is a f**king a**hole, who isn't smart enough to wake up and take
>a real look at the f**king world.  (flame me, it's winter here)
>                                               -mike-

I've found that a nice post to alt.personals requesting e-mail will 
also fill up your mailbox, albeit in a friendly, non-threatening way...

Or are you simply a masochist?...

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From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Subject: Re: Education Regarding Alternative Family Units (Re: The Analogy Betwixt Gays & Blacks (Re: Children in Same-gender Families))
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 14:55:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <1992Dec29.203241.9951@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) has all KINDS of questions!: 
>
>How about teaching beastiality as an equal sexuality.  And are you equally 

    You can certainly say that it exists.

>tired of the suicides of any teens, or just gays?  If we are going to 

    Although this question isn't directed at me, I can say that I think the
suicide of anyone is a tragedy.  Young people, to me, are even more sad.
Even worse, though, are the teens who kill themselves because they cannot
undo their emerging sexuality while being told by their own parents, peers,
etc. that their feelings are perverse and immoral.

>require counseling, why have it in the schools?  Are we doing such a great 

    Why not?  Where else?

>job teaching the 3R's that we have left over time and resources?  BTW, 

    HINT: There is more to evolving toward an emotionally healthy adult
than being literate.  Many posters to this very newsgroup are ample proof
of that.

>how many gay teens committed suicide last year?

    I don't know the exact number myself; it may not be available for the
past year since Louis Sullivan, in consultation with Helms and GHWB,
refused to grant funding through DHHS for any study on teen sexuality.  You
know that if we measure something, we legitimize and encourage it....

>Ted

    I hope that you are really more astute than these questions make you
appear.
-- 
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     Howard Black                             cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu
     Department of Chemistry                  Eastern Illinois Univ. 
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From: rj24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Robert  Johnston)
Subject: Re: Lifestyle Choices (was  Re: Sexuality)
Reply-To: rj24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Robert  Johnston)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 05:49:14 GMT

In article <u8v5jvk@twilight.wpd.sgi.com> jfw@rome.mti.sgi.com (john fergus wilkinson) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.191743.7958@asl.dl.nec.com>, dillhoff@aslws01.asl.dl.nec.com (Doug Dillhoff) writes:
>|
>|> 
>|> All I am saying is that unless you can show me that homosexual sex
>|> can create life (as the heterosexual sex act does) than it is an
>|> un-natural act. Homosexual sex uses a human output device (waste
>|> disposal) as an input device. This is not natural and therefore
>|> should not be considered normal and should not be taught as an
>|> alternate lifestyle. 
>|> 
>|> -- 
>
>Gee, thanks for explaining that to me.  The same conclusion applies, I assume, to heterosexual sex when one partner is sterile, or to the use of condoms or diaphragms or the birth-control pills.

Nice to see that someone pays attention to the Catholic catechism :)
From: dbernard@clesun.Central.Sun.COM (Dave Bernard)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Columbus vs Indians (was Re: PC lives)
Date: 30 Dec 1992 14:36:24 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
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NNTP-Posting-Host: clesun.central.sun.com


>we have back and then leave and try to find someplace else to live.  But we can
>at least acknowledge the truth, and stop glorifying the conquerors of the past.
>And since the conquered peoples are still here and unassimilated, it would not
>be a case of "running out of recorded history", if we did give them back some
>land.  I guess the Indian reservations are just that; I don't know if it's
>sufficient or not.  Land aside, the least we can do is show them respect.
>Glorifying and celebrating the conquest and destruction of the native cultures
>does not constitute showing respect.
>
 >  - Dave Borden
  >   borden@m5.harvard.edu

I don't know of any school, history books, courses, that glorify and celebrate
the conquest and destruction of native cultures, so we're safe there.

On the other issue, giving back "some land," from where do we get this land?
National parks, city halls, your back yard?  To whom do we give it- individuals,
tribes?  If an individual is 1/4 Aztec, does he get a piece?  What if "some" is
not enough?  Since this is a thorny issue, how should it be addressed?

Since the main theater of operations of the Conquistadores was Mexico, the 
Caribbean, and South/Central America, how can the US give that land back to
whomever?

Dave
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From: glen@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Glen Sonnenberg)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.bush
Subject: Re: An Apology to Ted
Date: 21 Dec 92 18:42:56 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson AZ

In article <1992Dec19.011233.26591@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.172832.17520@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes:
>
>>
>>According to recent studies performed here in the Physics Department at 
>>the University of Arizona, the overwhelming response of the random, thinking 
>
>[drivel deleted]
>
>Let's see,  Physics...  Oh Yeah, that's the department where the Department
>Head had to step down due to (among other things) a sexual harrassment
>permission form posted in the Departmental Office...

You don't know anything.  Dr. Caruthers didn't HAVE to do anything.  He's
just tired of dealing with all of the bureaucratic bullshit that this 
university is overrun with.  If you actually think that the "harrassment"
form was the reason that you don't have a clue as to all the politics
that went on with the Super-Conducting Supercollider project.  There was
so much politics that I'm surpised he put up with if for this long.  Also,
Dr. Caruthers' recruited the only two women faculty in the physics department.
The "harrassment" form that are so interested in was posted by a woman and
there was noone in the physics department staff/faculty that thought it was
offensive (in bad taste maybe).  I know this because I was there during the
whole incident and I am engaged to the woman who put it there.  It was 
definitely meant as a joke and just illustrates how the PC movement would
rather make a huge deal out of the form rather than go to her or the 
department and ask them to remove it.  Very few people had actually seen
the form but the next day everyone wanted to come and see the "infamous" 
form.  There were copies distributed all over after this.  I guess going
through proper channels is not politically correct.
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From: sgast+@pitt.edu (Susan Garvin)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Kicked out of a.f.d-q?  I don't think so
Date: 23 Dec 92 02:55:51 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

I've seen posts in this newsgroup from both Chaney/Hall and Schmidling
in the last week.  I don't think that they've "gone" anywhere.

I can understand your wish that everyone be welcomed in every newsgroup,
but it's not a very realistic wish.  The existence of moderated
groups and the frequent calls for more such groups are evidence of
this.

I don't much care for people who can dish it out but not take it.  You
may feel differently.  

Susan

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From: cd651@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wally L. Blume)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: NEW WORD CREATED HOMOMANIAC!
Date: 22 Dec 1992 17:07:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cd651@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wally L. Blume)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


 In the tradition of many of the currently used PC terms I am offering
a new word.

HOMOMANIAC:  A person who embraces homsexuality in an irrational manner,
             who also vehemently opposes any one questioning the morality
             of homosexualty. A person suffering from homomania will often
             attemt to several irrational things such as 1.) Try to teach
             small school children about their sexual activities.
             2.) Attempt to gain access to mens facilities on military
             bases.
 
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From: nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle)
Subject: Re: Rush and Arrogance
Organization: Psych Department, Indiana University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:31:18 GMT

greg_bradt@msmgate.mrg.uswest.com (Greg Bradt) writes:
>John Switzer, jrs@netcom.com writes in "Summary Mon 12/14/92":
>>Arrogance combined with power is one of the most disgusting of
>>combinations. Rush admits that he has a "tough time dealing with
>>arrogance," and he says "I cannot stomach pure undiluted,
>>concentrated, unadulterated pure arrogance  it rubs me raw far
>>more than any other human trait."

>You have to love the irony of a statement like that.

    Absolutely. It had me in stitches, for sure.

>Let's just hope that Rush doesn't acquire any =real= power.  He won't be
>able to live with himself.

    Well, that's hard to say. It's my opinion that Rush doesn't think of 
himself as arrogant. I really believe that most of the blatantly arrogant 
things he says are an act ("the best talk show host in the universe", etc);
I suppose he's trying to lampoon what he sees as the "real" arrogance of 
liberals (that arrogance being that, not unlike Rush, liberals believe their 
way of living is best). Unfortunately the belief that one's own way of 
living is the best is almost inherent to any human belief system. Human 
nature just seems to cause everyone to assume that their own system is 
best, since we all look at the options and choose what we think is best. 
An adversary is almost never a villian (or arrogant) in his own eyes. If 
that's what constitutes arrogance then I don't believe that it should be 
considered as a typical trait of either liberals or conservatives but 
rather is a trait of all humans at all times and in all places.

--
Nathan Engle                        Software Juggler
Psychology Department               Indiana University
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From: smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: Sexuality
Date: 31 Dec 1992 15:23:47 GMT
Organization: Colorado Springs IT Center
Distribution: usa
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rj24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Robert  Johnston) writes:
> Then stop persecuting and discriminating against him!

How exacly am I  persecuting and discriminating against him?

> He does not mean the christian definition of love, in which those you
> "love" are eternally damned.

Oh, I didn't realize I was dealing with a Christian-phobe...

Walter

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From: dillhoff@aslws01.asl.dl.nec.com (Doug Dillhoff)
Subject: Re: Lifestyle Choices (was  Re: Sexuality)
Organization: NEC America, Advanced Switching Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 19:17:43 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.185545.26789@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> ecl@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Evelyn C. Leeper) writes:
>
>Since homosexuality is found in *every* mammalian species, the
>statement that it is a lifestyle choice is scientifically questionable,
>but if it is, so what?  Christianity, meat-eating, and monogamous
>marriage are not dictated by nature--they are all lifestyle choices.

So, will I get special rights if I am a meat eater? 

>Yet I believe that schools should teach that Christians, meat-eaters,
>and monogamists are peple who may hold different views from the
>student, but who should not be persecuted because of this.
>
>All people are asking is that unless you can come up with some
>*secular* reason for why their lifestyle choice is bad, you grant
>them the same rights they are willing to grant you: the right to
>live their life without persecution.

I don't think anyone can live a life without persecution.

All I am saying is that unless you can show me that homosexual sex
can create life (as the heterosexual sex act does) than it is an
un-natural act. Homosexual sex uses a human output device (waste
disposal) as an input device. This is not natural and therefore
should not be considered normal and should not be taught as an
alternate lifestyle. 

-- 
Doug Dillhoff            Any opinions expressed are strictly my own.
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From: bobsarv@microsoft.com (Bob Sarver)
Subject: Re: "My Cabinet" by Clinton (was Re: Affirmative action is dead)
Date: 31 Dec 92 20:34:07 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.


/(krueger)
/Anyone remember Clinton saying "My cabinet will more accurately reflect 
/the public?"

No.  

What Clinton said was that his cabinet would "look like America".  

It was a comment designed to convey Clinton's desire to include women and 
ethnic minorities.



/(krueger)
/I wonder how many of his cabinet members will represent the 57% who did 
/not vote for him.

More than a hypothetical 2nd term Bush cabinet would have, where 62% did
not vote for Bush.





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From: mam@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (Mike A. McAngus)
Subject: Re: Sexuality
Organization: Homebrew Virtual Reality Labs
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Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1993 20:56:37 GMT

[alt.politics.bush and alt.politics.clinton crossposts deleted]

Walter Smith (smithw@col.hp.com) wrote:
: fritzs@microsoft.com (Fritz Sands) writes:
: > First, the country was not founded on Christian values -- it was deliberate
ly
: > set up as a secular society, in order to not have the religious wars
: > and persecutions common in Europe.
:
: Partially right; it was set up to not have a state church, but it
: was also largely based on what can be called 'Christian values'.

Which 'Christian values' are you talking about?  Please provide examples to
support your assertion.
-- 
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From: harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp)
Subject: Re: Your own words, of course != bigot
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 10:49:39 GMT

jpsb@NeoSoft.com (Jim Shirreffs) writes:

[...]

>And by enlarged most Americans *do* share a J/C morality. 

Some people continue to make this statement, and I'm still waiting to
see what morals embraced by most Americans are uniquely Judeo-
Christian in origin.  They act like the J/C's have cornered the market
on morals.

>Why do you think the pilgrims came over here in the first place? To get away 
>from people that didn't share their values. Dido for other early settlers. 

Actually, they came here because they wanted to escape from a
government that forced them to accept the state religion as their own.
They escaped legislated morality.

[...]

>Why do you think there are so many murders, robberies, rapes, assaults, etc?
>I'll tell you why Lensman, because a large part of our society no longer 
>shares
>our belief that human life is precious, because a large part of our society 
>no longer respects private property, because a large part of our society no 
                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>longer respects individuals rights. And that is just the "tip of the ice berg"
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[...]

I believe that that is the point that the gay rights activists have
been trying to get across all this time.

>A much better judgement would be:

>The day that we, as a society, cease to value our morality is the day 
>that our society goes to hell.

Nobody's arguing with that.  You mention murder, robbery, rape, and
assault.  I think you'll be hard pressed to find people who don't
consider these things wrong.  Now, you _can_ find people who would and
do commit these acts without remorse, but that is an entirely
different problem.  However, this is not a uniquely J/C system of
morals.  These morals are quite universal.

I think the problems begin when we all disagree on just _what_ morals
our "society" should and should not have.  Personally, I think it's
relatively easy to figure out.  There are morals that protect the
rights of individuals, and there are morals that infringe upon the
rights of individuals.  Figure it out for yourself...
-- 
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  "I think I've reached that point / Where every word that you write /
  Of every blood dark sea / And every soul black night / And every dream
  you dream me in / And every perfect free from sin / And burning eyes /
  And hearts on fire / Are just the same old song" -- The Cure
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