From: hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Subject: Re: War Resisters League on Terrorism     
Reply-To: hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:34:17 GMT


David Skoll writes:

In <1992Apr10.165432.22407@ncsu.edu> hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad
Hernlem) writes:

>Beware the deceptive assumptions in David's post:

>a) Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah are one and the same and that actions by
>one group can be blamed on both.

David: In fact, they are very closely linked.  Most Western experts
refer to Islamic Jihad as a "protege" of Hizbollah.

>b) The statement quoted above was made by "Islamic Jihad". (In actuality
>the statement was made by unknown sources claiming to be representatives
>of the Islamic Jihad.)

David: Musawi himself has said that the war against Israel extends to all Jews.

>I have posted a great many articles on the subject of the resistance to
>the Israeli occupation of Lebanon by Hezbollah and other Lebanese groups
>to point out that, despite the image of these groups that we get from
>our media, these people are fighting daily to free their country from
>foreign occupation, NOT to plot the genocide of the Jews or the
>kidnapping of Westerners.

David: I'll include below an article from soc.culture.lebanon which details the
atrocities committed by Hezbollah against Lebanese.  Another article
will show the list of hostages captured by them.

>David's deception is a directed to draw our attention
>away from the real goal of these Lebanese; to be free from foreign occupation.

David: I have deceived no-one:  Hezbollah's STATED GOAL is to annihilate
Israel.
Their source of support is Iran, not Lebanon.  Even Brad cannot dispute
these facts.

>p.s. I am sure that David would not like me claiming that all Israel can
>be represented by the Kach party's beliefs and actions; I ask that he
>stop disseminating the lie that Hezbollah and the Lebanese resitance is
>dedicated to the genocide of the Jews and the total destruction of Israel.

David: Hezbollah is NOT the Lebanese resistance.  They are a bunch of genocidal
thugs, whose STATED goal is the destruction of Israel, not the liberation
of Lebanon from foreigners.

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[A ship-load of stuff deleted]

You included a large list of hostage takings, murders, etc..

Readers please note that in much of what David posted [deleted for
brevity] there is no reference or evidence that the Hezbollah committed
these acts and in some cases the implication is that the Syrians and
their allies were responsible, not the Hezbollah. Again David is
expanding the guilt of one group to include everything he finds
offensive. The SLA and Israel have hundreds of hostages in south
Lebanon, many of which have suffered severe torture. The Israeli
occupiers and the SLA almost daily shell Lebanese villages (when
Hezbollah rocketted Israel for the first time during the days after
Mosawi's murder this was presented as if it happens all the time). Iran
does indeed help the Lebanese in their resistance to Israeli occupation.
For this involvement (presumably) Iran was one of the first countries to
have its citizens taken hostage in Lebanon in recent times (I believe
this was in 1982). These hostages are presumed dead and, like the
families of the Israeli missing, they have no idea where the remains of
their loved ones are. From the vast examples of what the Hezbollah
actually do (fight Israeli occupation) I, personally, cannot accept what
David claims as Hezbollah's stated goal. I think rather that their
"stated" goal is to eradicate Zionism and the evil which it has spawned
in the middle east. This position would be taken by many to mean the
eradication of Jews but I think that is not what is meant. Jews are one
of the "peoples of the Book" and they must be respected in Iran by
Islamic law. Because Hezbollah is a creation of Iran, it would be
against Iranian law, Islamic law and common sense for Hezbollah to
promote the genocide of Jews.

 
Brad