HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: llama@tramp.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: The eternal questions...
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:28:04 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Stephen J. Okay (sokay@cyclone.mitre.org) wrote:

: Is there more to life than news?

yes, but it's mostly boring and pointless.

: Should I get this depressed when nobody sends me mail?

yes. and you should look in your mail archives and send whiny letters
to everyone who's ever written you about anything.

: Is this the ultimate example of a pathetic waste of protoplasm?

can't be. i used to date him.

: Should I get a life or just try and get a trade-in on the one I currently
: have?

yeah, right.

: Am I always going to be so alone despite being surrounded by friends of
: varying degrees?

everyone is always alone. no one will ever care about your life as
much as you do. or even half as much. when you can accept this, it
won't matter.

: Am I going to keep posting shit like this whenever I get down or depressed
: or am I actually going to fix myself?
: 
: ----never mind...don't answer that.....

okay. you know the answer better than i would anyway.

sigh. i have a blind date tonight. we spent two hours on the phone
last night. he claims to be incredibly intrigued and is picking me up
after work tonight because he's going out of town for the weekend and
didn't want to wait a week to get together. 

i have this sudden urge to come down with the flu.

--
sine | deb
who, me? nervous? feeling impending doom?
From: ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie (Lucifuge)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Why bother?
Date: 21 Dec 92 13:04:35 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <1992Dec20.083416.24217@Virginia.EDU> mlc9g@Virginia.EDU ("Matt Condon") writes:

>I just started to post something...  I had it all typed out...
>Then I said "why bother?" and deleted it.  So, therefore, I
>pose this question to you : Why bother?

Instant and profound answer; 

Why not?

It's not like you have something better to do.

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
  The Lord is my Shepherd............................but I'm not a Sheep
-----------------------------ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie-------------------------
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: fsquared@eff.org (Fawn Fitter)
Subject: Re: Fear of Debt
Originator: fsquared@eff.org
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 00:35:19 GMT

[comments about inherent fiscal conservatism of Depression-era parents]

On the other hand, some of those Depression-era parents took fiscal 
insecurity beyond anal retentiveness.  When we cleaned out my paternal
grandmother's house after her death, we found hundred-dollar bills rolled
into the handle of a hairbrush and folded up behind the plate covering an
electrical outlet.  We found three diamond rings (my grandfather did okay
for himself and enjoyed spoiling my grandmother rotten) sewn into a quilt 
and a brooch stitched into the bottom hem of a curtain.  We found a large
garbage bag full of elastic she'd cut out of old underwear just in case 
she needed it.  We found 20-year-old canned goods stored in a cabinet in 
the basement.  To this day, we aren't sure we found everything she cached
around the house; for all I know, the present owners are still finding goodies
hidden in the plumbing.

I can only wonder what growing up with that would do to a kid.  My aunt 
seemed to turn out all right, but my father is as irresponsible with money
as his mother was a hoarder.  Go figure...
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: apb.4819@nd.edu (voluptua love)
Subject: happy
Summary: year
Keywords: new 
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Distribution: alt.angst
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 23:29:19 GMT

to llama and the rest of the group if it has not yet been
annihilated, happy new year

till the mountains melt into the sea

yours forever and ever

voluptua
 
------------------------------------------
Stephen H. Voss
University of Notre Dame
From: rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Fear of Debt
Date: 30 Dec 92 20:53:41 GMT
Organization: st. alfonso's pancake breakfast

In article <1992Dec30.192426.11268@netcom.com> despair@netcom.com (Scott Hanson) writes:
>The discussion regarding the few people who are out of debt, and the occasional
>person who feels strongly about this have been interesting to me.
>
>I had the misfortune of being adopted by people in their late 40's. 
>One of these effects is due to my parents experiences in the Great Depression.
>I am not certain how much of this to believe, but things were undeniably
>difficult.  As a result, they never live outside their means and are 
>preoccupied with their future economic solvency.  This has been passed on
>to myself, making things less pleasant but more realistic financially.
>
>How many other debt free people were influenced by this?  I imagine there
>are a few strong types who had irresponsible pareents and actively chose
>a different way of managing money.

this is a really interesting theory. although i'm certain that i was not 
affected this way (i was born to parents in their twenties and in england),
that people whose parents lived through such crisis most definitely instil
a sense of economic 'terror' to their kids. i wonder, then, if my kids will
have this fear of debt? probably not, because i doubt that i would allow 
myself to have children unless i knew i wouldn't have to go into debt to
raise them. but then again, i feel sometimes that my fear of debt is foundless,
whereas having gone through the Depression would give one tangible reasons
to be conservative. 

bah.
--
		    -just give me what for,
	rachel perkins =  rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu
      coed naked internet grep! always keep your link up!
From: jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu (J. Furr)
Newsgroups: alt.angst,alt.angst.xibo.sex,alt.religion.kibology,rec.games.mud.tiny,talk.bizarre
Subject: Tank Girl's FORGED log in which she blames Igburyanki for introducing her to her current hose buddy, Ahkond
Date: 31 Dec 92 11:12:09 GMT
Organization: Virginia Center for Lemur Fandom (subscribe to alt.fan.lemurs TODAY)

In article <1hs4ovINNkr1@leela.CS.ORST.EDU> tankgirl@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Tank Girl) writes:
>jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu (J. Furr) writes:
>>Hey.  That's one nasty accusation to level against someone, Tank_Girl. 
>>Let's see that proof you refer to.
>
>Here it is, from late May 1992, the proof(tm).
>
>Ahkond salaams many times toward Xibo.
>Igburyanki says, "Ahkond, this is Tank_Girl."
>Igburyanki says, "Tank_Girl, this is Ahkond."
>Ahkond says, "Hello, Tank_Girl"

[stuff deleted]
>Igburyanki propositions Tank_Girl, then remembers his manners and permits
>Ahkond to go first.
>Ahkond busily leafs through his book, forgetting about manners
>Igburyanki peers at Ahkond.
>Ahkond looks up, confusedly.
>Igburyanki must get home to pack for the Big Convention.
>Ahkond says, "Yes?"
>Igburyanki picks Ahkond up and tucks him neatly into Tank_Girl's arms.
>Ahkond says, "Ahh, it's been a long time"
>Ahkond disentangles himself, blushing mightily
>Igburyanki says, "Ahkond, if you're Ahkond of Swat, you GOTTA chase the
>women."
>Ahkond is a celibate scholar-potentate.
>Igburyanki pumps Ahkond full of testosterone.
>Igburyanki says, "I am here to PUMP YOU UP."
>Ahkond says, "Huhh... huhhhh....  bleearg!  I feel funny!!"
>Igburyanki says, "Listen to me now and listen to me later.  You are here to
>CHASE THE WOMEN.  Do not be a girly-man."

It's forged.  It's ALL FORGED, do you hear me?

Joel "IT'S ALL FORGED" Furr
jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu
From: vance@lpl.arizona.edu (Vance Haemmerle x4021)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: fuck the notion of *real* angst
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:49:43 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Lunar & Planetary Laboratory, Tucson AZ.

In article <92356.095329IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET> IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET writes:
>alright, now i'm confused.... who am i supposed to check with before
>i know whether i have angst or not?? who's okay shall i obtain??
>


  If you have to ask, you don't have it.


>who's gonna sign my permission slip?
>
>j.

  The great thing about it is that it's FREE!!!!  No permission
  necessary.  It's not even TAXED!

--
Vance Haemmerle                         vance%toyvax@arizona.edu
Tucson, AZ                             vance@vips.lpl.arizona.edu
* If the world ended tomorrow, what would happen to my vacation time? * 
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: despair@netcom.com (Scott Hanson)
Subject: Fear of Debt
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 19:24:26 GMT

The discussion regarding the few people who are out of debt, and the occasional
person who feels strongly about this have been interesting to me.

I had the misfortune of being adopted by people in their late 40's.  This
caused a multitude of problems in addition to a few advantages.  I have not
finished deciding which are which, or if it is possible to tell.

One of these effects is due to my parents experiences in the Great Depression.
I am not certain how much of this to believe, but things were undeniably
difficult.  As a result, they never live outside their means and are 
preoccupied with their future economic solvency.  This has been passed on
to myself, making things less pleasant but more realistic financially.

How many other debt free people were influenced by this?  I imagine there
are a few strong types who had irresponsible pareents and actively chose
a different way of managing money.

It is terrifying to think that most people of my parents age raised
hippies or disco-dancers.  It is equally frightening to think what most
people my age are.  One thinks:  Ho-Hum.
-- 
Scott Hanson		This has been a recording.
despair@netcom.com
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: moranc@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: RE: BOOKS PLEASE
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:47:49 GMT

The author of The Yellow Wallpaper is Charlotte Perkins Gillman
 
keep enjoying
cindy
From: sbate@atl.ge.com (Stephen)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: time to go back
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:26:18
Organization: ATL
	<1992Dec29.185410.22899@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
Reply-To: sbate@atl.ge.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: mary.atl.ge.com
In-reply-to: rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu's message of 29 Dec 92 18:54:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.185410.22899@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins) writes:
>is it wrong to not want to owe anyone aything? to not want to be in a position
> of debt? it seems to me that your debt is constantly hanging over your head,
> that you just can't get free because you'll be in debt for the rest of your
> life as you said. that's the feeling of suffocation that i get a taste of 
> when i think of borrowing money. i want my existence to be dependent on only
> me. you owe the great american system for yours. you seem to be preaching
> a lemming's approach..."everyone is doing it, so it must be ok" well, i
> don't want to go hurtling to my death, just because i'll be alone if i don't.
> 
> bah.

I'm another "one in a million" (according to Chuck) who is not in 
financial debt (my assets exceed my liabilities). However, I don't have
quite the angst about debt and credit that you do. For example,
I often use credit cards as substitute cash (and pay the cards off each
month) and I have an auto loan (could have paid cash but prefer to keep
my assets liquid).

I don't think it's wrong not to want to owe anything. However, you seem
to feel stronger about being debt-free than most people I know. You
say you want your existence to only depend on you. What do you mean
when you say "existence" (I assume you don't mean literal existence)?
Unless you are financially independent, your financial well-being is
still dependent on others (employers, etc.). Being in debt doesn't
have to mean "being in debt for the rest of your life". You sound like
you're doing a good job of managing school and a job. You could probably
manage paying off a loan just as well. But, then again, maybe I'm wrong.
You're the only one that knows for sure.

Some of the feelings I picked up from your post reminded me of how I
felt when I was kid and my mom withheld my allowance for not cleaning
my room. I decided I wouldn't depend on that allowance (or any other
external reward or benefit) because other people could use it to
manipulate me. Is this similar to how you're feeling?

Good luck.


--
Stephen
From: xibo@fido.econ.arizona.edu (Mr. Coates)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: while driving home
Date: 23 Dec 92 06:35:57 GMT
	<1992Dec22.210202.19130@news.duc.auburn.edu>
Organization: Xibological Perimeter

singram@eng.auburn.edu (Scott Ingram) writes:

#Xibo,

Orion,

#Personnally I'm impressed you made it to the `fast car' stage of
#happiness.

Thanks, it was delicious.

#But I've got a theory on the female.
#
#Remember the last angstcon (Jeez I hope I'm not confusing you with kibo.
#That would make me look like a real nimrod.)
#
#Well, you posted about this girl in the nightie that wondered
#if you were always so shy... maybe, just maybe, you should have
#followed up on that spark of interest. She might very well have been the
#girl in the car with alternate-Xibo.

Nice theory.  However I do believe you're referring to the last AngstCon
that I posted about, which is to say AngstCon III, where I met Tank Girl
on Tuesday and saw the cutie in the nightie on Saturday.  Well, Tank Girl
was in Purdue (Indiana) and the chick in the nightie was in Minneapolis.

These are, generally speaking, far from Arizona.

However, yes, I see your point.  Tank Girl ended up moving out and living
with me for several months in a relationship that was doomed and hence
ended as all doomed relationships do.  Maybe if I had convinced the chick
in the nightie, who I didn't know AT ALL, to come out and live with me,
it would have been better.  Hell, I'm sure of it.  However, I didn't
know the chick at all, and has no chance in hell.  Whereas I had been
communicating with TG for some time and she was anxious to leave Purdue
anyway.

I guess the upshot of all this is that you really don't know a person
until you live with them for a while.

#Orion.

Xibo

(And as for AngstCon IV, well, that story may never hit the net.  And I'm
 skipping AngstCon V.  I guess I'll have to write stories about something
 else...)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun
From: iani@ohsuga.rcast.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Zannos Iannis)
Subject: Sun Sparc10 AUDIO
Organization: RCAST, Univ. of Tokyo, Japan
Distribution: alt.sys.sun
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 05:58:16 GMT


Sun Sparc10 is supposed to be capable of 16 bit (Stereo?) Sound.  The
problem is how to make use of this capacity for things like hifi
music.  The confituration in the lab I work at feeds the digital signal
into an small external DA device with a loudspeaker and a
very noisy mini-jack output.   This DA seems insufficient for playback
of hifi files, as synthesized for example by Csound.  

Does anyone know how to make high-fidelity recordings from CD/DAT
(input) or into DAT (output), if not digital, at least relatively
noise-free, on the Sparc10 ?

Thank you,

Ioannis Zannos

Tokyo University, RCAST, Ohsuga Laboratory
4-6-1 Komaba, Meguro-Ku,
Tokyo 153, Japan

e-mail: iani@ohsuga.rcast.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Tel Lab		+813 34814486

Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun,comp.security.misc,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.wizards
From: karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger)
Subject: Re: internet firewall: packet selecting/forwarding
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 17:02:31 GMT
Organization: MCSNet, Chicago, IL
Keywords: security, internet, firewall, packet, filter

In article <1993Jan2.091216.10624@corp.telecom.co.nz> chuck@corp.telecom.co.nz (Chuck Zheng) writes:
>Hello,
>
>I am interested in building a internet firewall to restrict un-authorised 
>(potential) access to my network.  The resources I have are sun3 sun4 and pcs.
>Can anybody tell me how to implement it?  
>
>I have read Garfinkel & Spafford's "Practical Unix Security" (O'Reilly & Assco).
>It introduced the concept of internet firewall's choke & gate, and what need to
>do, but not how, especially, not about how to filter packets on unix.  I guess
>something have to be done about inetd.conf, to shut down some service.  But how
>to forward a telnet packet from choke to gate?
>
>I read log_tcp/tcp_wrapper README.  It seems to me that it can filter packets
>based on host infomation.  But I do not feel it can offer same level of protec-
>tion as separate choke & gate.  Does it handle unauthorized nfs mounting?
>
>I would like to learn from your experience (if any) dealing with internet 
>security.  Any comments will be appreciated.
>
>Chuck

Somewhere between your systems and the Internet there is a router.  

That is one place to implement filtering on a port-by-port basis.  

The other option is to leave that open, and have one system which is the
"gateway" that does not forward packets from/to anyone else.  This system
then is your "choke point" through which all attacks must be made.  You then
secure that as best you can, and watch it closely.

Combinations of both are also possible.

--
Karl Denninger (karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM, <well-connected>!ddsw1!karl)
Data Line: [+1 312 248-0900] Anon. arch. (nuucp) 00:00-06:00 C[SD]T
Request file: /u/public/sources/DIRECTORY/README for instructions
Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun,comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: poirot@conan.jsc.nasa.gov (Daniel Poirot)
Subject: Re: Installing MD21 and ESDI
Organization: NASA Johnson Space Center
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:10:10 GMT

In article <cfB_Pfq00VR_BHtmxE@andrew.cmu.edu> db74+@andrew.cmu.edu (Derrick J. Brashear) writes:
>I recently got 2 ESDI drives for my machine (70 meg IBM RT drives,
>which, as an aside, I'm looking for info on) as well as an MD21. On the
>SCSI bus currently there is a 60mb Wangtek tape drive and an Adaptec
>ACB4000A controlling 2 71 meg MFM drives.

I seem to recall seeing a post some time back that discribed the
jumpers and switch settings for the ACB4000 and the EM21.  Does anyone
out there still have a copy?  

We are trying to hook up both of these adapters and I don't remember
what goes where!

Thanks,
-- 
Daniel Poirot           poirot@aio.jsc.nasa.gov
NASA JSC                "The mind is a terrible thing."
ER3                     tel: (713)483-8793
Houston, TX 77058       fax: (713)483-3204
Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun
From: revtek@world.std.com (Jacques A Vanschouwen)
Subject: PowerDrive now available on Sun workstations
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: all
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 00:23:10 GMT


Revolution Technologies First To Unveil Transparent Low Cost
Disk Compression Software For SPARCr Workstation Users.

NATICK, Mass. -- January 4, 1993 -- Revolution Technologies (tm) today
introduced PowerDriveTM, a software product designed to transparently
increase the file storage capacity of SPARC workstations and servers.
With PowerDrive, users can store more files and applications at much
lower cost than purchasing additional disk drives.

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average. This significant reduction virtually doubles the drive's storage
capacity.

+ EASY INSTALLATION IN MINUTES

The PowerDrive software installs in minutes and allows the user to
immediately take advantage of the additional disk space. During
PowerDrive installation, existing files on the system are compressed
into the PowerDrive format -- making more room to store new files.
When a file bearing the PowerDrive format is accessed, it is
transparently decompressed for use by the user.  The PowerDrive
software is fully configurable and works easily with all file types
including text files, object files, and executables.

+ IMMEDIATE AVAILABILITY

PowerDrive is available now for the Solaris 1.0 (SunOS 4.1.x) operating
system.  A version for Solaris 2.x will be available in March, 1993.
Revolution Technologies is offering a special introductory price of $99
until March 31, 1993. PowerDrive is available via anonymous FTP at
world.std.COM (192.74.137.5) in the directory pub/revtek.  Download
files powerdrive.tar and powerdrive.README.

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Users can try out PowerDrive at no cost for 30 days by obtaining a demo
license from Revolution Technologies.

Revolution Technologies and PowerDrive are trademarks of Revolution
Technologies.  SPARC is a registered trademark of SPARC International, Inc.



Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun
From: iani@ohsuga.rcast.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Zannos Iannis)
Subject: Re: Audio tools
Organization: RCAST, Univ. of Tokyo, Japan
Distribution: alt.sys.sun
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 06:09:15 GMT


Hi!

>> I'm lloking for some audio tools like
>> a sampler, wavesample editor, fft and filter tools
>> for a Sparcstation 10.

This may not be the solution to your problem, but Csound phase vocoder
(pvoc) tool performs fft.   Csound also contains a number of
file-tools.  It might be  worth looking into as a good sound
synthesis software.   Available by ftp from ems.media.mit.edu.  

And now a question from me: 
I have installed cmusic, but cannot get hi-fi playback on the sparc10
- the small DA converter provided by the vendor here seems a cheap,
noisy thing.  What do you use for IO and AD - DA conversion?  Do you
record digital, and how?   I would be thankful for any information. 
 
Ioannis Zannos

Tokyo University, RCAST, Ohsuga Laboratory
4-6-1 Komaba, Meguro-Ku,
Tokyo 153, Japan

e-mail: iani@ohsuga.rcast.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Tel (Lab)		+813 34814486

Ps
From: CDSCHULZ@iftpus.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (C._D._Schulz)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun
Subject: Audio tools
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:37:50 GMT
Organization: University of Stuttgart, FRG(Inst.f. Theor. Phys. u. Synergetik)
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

Hi !

I'm lloking for some audio tools like
a sampler, wavesample editor, fft and filter tools
for a Sparcstation 10.

Any idea ?

tnx for help

C.-D.
Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun,comp.security.misc,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.wizards
From: chuck@corp.telecom.co.nz (Chuck Zheng)
Subject: internet firewall: packet selecting/forwarding
Keywords: security, internet, firewall, packet, filter
Organization: Telecom New Zealand, Wellington, New Zealand
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 09:12:16 GMT

Hello,

I am interested in building a internet firewall to restrict un-authorised 
(potential) access to my network.  The resources I have are sun3 sun4 and pcs.
Can anybody tell me how to implement it?  

I have read Garfinkel & Spafford's "Practical Unix Security" (O'Reilly & Assco).
It introduced the concept of internet firewall's choke & gate, and what need to
do, but not how, especially, not about how to filter packets on unix.  I guess
something have to be done about inetd.conf, to shut down some service.  But how
to forward a telnet packet from choke to gate?

I read log_tcp/tcp_wrapper README.  It seems to me that it can filter packets
based on host infomation.  But I do not feel it can offer same level of protec-
tion as separate choke & gate.  Does it handle unauthorized nfs mounting?

I would like to learn from your experience (if any) dealing with internet 
security.  Any comments will be appreciated.

Chuck

-- 

--
Chuck Qun Zheng
Telecom Corperate Office
Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun,comp.security.misc,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.wizards