From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.rights.human,talk.politics.cis
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Subject: Re: "The Armenians just shot and shot and shot," said Omar Veyselov.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 22:08:51 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
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In article <1ee5shINNqe2@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> aphrael@cats.ucsc.edu (Robert D West) writes:

>WE DON'T CARE. Take your argument out of talk.politics.cis!

Who is "we"? Over 60 million Turks live in xUSSR. And it is the duty 
of all Turks around the globe to own the problems of these 60 million 
Turkish people. This is the path to have free Turkish states in the future 
to help each other in every means. Political, cultural and economic. 
Furthermore, perhaps Turkiye should intervene in the affairs of the 
Caucasus in the name of peace and democracy. The Armenians are Christians, 
the Azerbaijanis are Moslems, and Islam is a religion especially unloved
by the democrat-westernizers. Besides, at the root of this conflict
lie the territorial claims on Azerbaijan, a consequence of which
were the blood and suffering of innocent Azeri people, hundreds of
thousands of refugees, and gross violations of human rights. Without
these main points, it is impossible to understand the roots of the
genocide of the Azeris in Karabag, where today Shusha remains the 
only patch of land that has not been seized by Armenian bandits. 
Recently Armenians attacked the Azeri town of Khojaly and massacred
thousands of Azeris. The Paris-based 'Association for Democracy and
Human Rights in Azerbaijan' puts the number of Khojali victims
at 3,145. Some of the dead were scalped and mutilated. This whole
thing has now gone entirely too far.

The terrorist Armenians should get one thing through their heads: they
are condemned to get along well with the people of Turkiye and Azerbaijan,
and that is the only hope for x-Soviet Armenia. Turkiye does not want to 
annihilate or crush Armenia, because the Turks do not share their custom 
of approaching others and then waiting for the opportunity to backstab
and slaughter. The people of Turkiye keep their word, including the one 
given in 1921. But they are neither stupid nor are they used to bowing 
their heads. They are determined to protect their national and territorial 
integrity established by the international treaties. The history speaks
for itself.

Source: Stanford J. Shaw, on Armenian collaboration with invading Russian
armies in 1914, "History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey (Volume
II: Reform, Revolution & Republic: The Rise of Modern Turkey, 1808-1975)."
(London, Cambridge University Press 1977). pp. 315-316.

"In April 1915 Dashnaks from Russian Armenia organized a revolt in the city 
 of Van, whose 33,789 Armenians comprised 42.3 percent of the population, 
 closest to an Armenian majority of any city in the Empire...Leaving Erivan 
 on April 28, 1915, Armenian volunteers reached Van on May 14 and organized 
 and carried out a general slaughter of the local Muslim population during 
 the next two days while the small Ottoman garrison had to retreat to the
 southern side of the lake."

Sounds familiar?

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)

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