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From: direwolf@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Kathy Watts)
Subject: Re: Tipper Update 
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 06:15:22 GMT

Summary: Correcting naive view of Gore! 
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Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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In article <1992Jul20.190210.5010@Csli.Stanford.EDU> henniss@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Kathryn Henniss) writes:
>
>I hope someone will correct me (with specifics) if I am
>wrong, but what I read that Tipper was advocating was
>that records/CDs/tapes containing obscene lyrics be labelled
>as such.  Admittedly, deciding what constitutes "obscene"
>(and, more importantly, who makes such decisions) is a tricky
>and subjective business, but after all, is this any different
>from the way movies are rated G, PG, PG-13, R, X, etc.?  I don't
>even know for sure that what she proposed was that they be
>labelled "obscene", rather than "for mature audiences", or
>"discretion advised". Does anyone else?
>
>Now if she had advocated that sales of music labelled "obscene"
>to minorsbe prohibited, that would be another thing, but I
>never heard or read that she did that.  Or if she had actually
>suggested that such materials be banned or censored in some
>way, I'd object, too.  But she didn't, did she?  
>
>One interview that I read in the SF Examiner a couple weeks 
>ago quoted Tipper as saying that what got her started on her 
>labelling campaign was that her daughters (I remember the ages 
>7 and 11, but I'm not sure about that) got her to buy an album 
>by Prince, which she did, not having any idea who Prince was or
>what his music was like.  After they got it home, and the
>girls were listening to it, Tipper noticed that one of the
>songs referred to a woman masturbating in the lobby of a hotel,
>and it just didn't seem like appropriate material for a
>7 or 11 year old.
>
>I don't have kids, so I don't know how I'd feel if I did,
>and they wanted to listen to Prince or Billy Idol or Two Live 
>Crew.  But it doesn't seem unreasonable to me for a parent to want 
>to exercise some control over what kinds of things their young 
>kids are exposed to. 
>
>Anyway, as a card carrying member of the ACLU myself, I'm
>deeply opposed to anything that smacks of censorship, but I
>just haven't seen/read that what Tipper actually advocated
>really approached that.  I think she's maybe been given
>something of a bad rap.
>
>Kat
>
Don't be naive, Kat:  What Mrs. Gore did was to get her powerful Senator
husband to oblige the record companies, et al, to appear before an investigaive
committee of the United States Congress, and face the intimidating possibility
that Congress would pass laws about record contents if they didn't cooperate.

It's called BLACKMAIL when mere mortals do it!

Now whether Tipper blackmailed Al ("You don't get any more until you get your
committee to do something about those horrible perverts in the recording
industry, Al, Dear!")....well, I can only speculate.

I think Al needs a divorce before I could tolerate him in the White House!

-direwolf

				"If the thunder don't get you
				 Then the lightning will!"
											-R. Hunter
>
From: gaile@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com (Gail Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: spin docs and bela fleck
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:57:09 GMT
Organization: The Internet

In article <1992Jul29.154951.21600@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> ag@esv.bgsm.wfu.edu writes:
>
>ziggy's.  also on tues aug. 11 bela fleck and the flecktones are playing there 
>with the groove thangs(another excellent funky band)

the Thangs are from my home town!  they're playing with Bela Fleck?
alright!  great party band, and little brother Pat has an incredible
voice.  check 'em out.

	-gail

"let's twist the top off this mother!"
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Psychemedia <ADT3@vaxb.york.ac.uk>
Subject: light shows
Reply-To: ADT3@vaxb.york.ac.uk
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:16:51 GMT

Im currently researching an article for a new psychedelic magazine 
(Psychemedia) on the history of Psychedelic light shows - if anyone out there
has any info. on, or was present at, the original 60s light shows run mainlt
around the SF area (eg Trips Fest, Acid Tests), or who saw (or was involved
with) the East coast Woodstock light show, please......get in touch - it's
not easy finding info on lights (bands, no problem..) so any assistance 
will be v. useful.......

also......where can i find copies of the original 'Psychedelic Review'?

and.... if anyone wants to know more about Psychemedia (wants to write for it
	perhaps?) then get in touch and i'll mail it on...

			ta

			'monty'
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Jeff Lester <lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com>
Subject: Grateful Dead Hour #200
Reply-To: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:27:48 GMT

Oh yeah, I forgot to do this after I listened to show #200 this past Sunday
here in L.A.:

Congratulations and thanks to David Gans for doing 200 (!) shows of the
Grateful Dead Hour (not counting the Deadhead Hour). Keep up the good
work!

-Jeff Lester
From: david@c-cat.UUCP (Dave)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: BG or MSG?
Date: 19 Jul 92 14:29:23 GMT
Organization: Intergalactic Rest Area For Weary Travellers

ST702459@brownvm.brown.edu (Jordan Schwartz) writes:

> To the guy who's wondering whether to see BG or MSG:
> 
> Hands down no question: New York is the closest thing to hell on this
> earth (admittedly, I've never been to LA, so I can't REALLY say).
> There is no experience worth than wandering out of a beautiful show
> in Grateful Deadland and finding yourself in the middle of New York
> City at midnight, rife with crack/heroin addicts, general city-burnouts
> and unidentifiable fetid reaks and smells. Skip it Skip it Skip it!
> 

Having gone to most of my shows at MSG. I must include 2 cents worth
It's an experience that must be dealt with at least once in life.
There is no show or venue like it ;-)


                                                       -David

China Cat System     
(301)604-5976 8N1
david@sandr.com
From: jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John J. Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Bob/Rob: Toronto - 07.20.92
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:23:48 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

Chris Telmer writs on the Weir&Wasserman/Shocked/Cockburn 7/20/92 show...
> 
>Set II:  Weir / Wasserman
>=========================
> 
>Weir played an acoustic 6 string most of the night, and pulled out
>what looked like (remember my vantage point) a hollow body semi-
>acoustic for some additional raunch during Victim and Throwin'.

That was a yellow hollow-body electric, which was used on the same
basis as last year's W/W/Hot Tuna tour.

>*Casey Road

"K.C. Moan"

>*"Travels the Fastest who Travels Alone" (Bob goes Gothic)

"The Winners" - A Rudyard Kipling poem set to music.

>*"She was a Stranger" >

"This Time Forever"

>*"Out in the Streets"

"Shade Of Grey"

Thank you for the report, Chris.:-)


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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tuesday, 28 Jul 1992 14:33:10 MST
From: Nauman Mysorewala <PAKOWNER@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Jerry tickets for sale

Two tickets for July 31st  and August 1 & 2.  Please call directly after 10 pm
 MST (602) 967-8214- Ask for Marnell.


Please dont reply to this note as I am using my friends account
From: bowers@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: GD special effects question...
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:04:20 GMT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <Bs7nzn.Ftz@news.udel.edu>, moffitt@ravel.udel.edu (Curtis Moffitt) writes:
> Hi all,
>    Got a question for ya.  Does anyone know the name of the special effect
> that they use on the big screens and on their videotapes where you see
> "trails" of moving objects and color distortions and intensities?  If
> anyone knows the name of this effect and especially HOW it is done I would
> really like to know....  Thanks, Curt

From What I saw at the RFK show in 90, the effect I think you are talking 
about looks like Digitrail -- or some similar effect -- which is produced 
by an Ampex Digital Optics (ADO) digital video effects system.  Essentailly 
once you digitize video you can manipulate it in any number or ways 
depending on the memory capacity of the DVE you are using. ADO is pretty 
much a high-end industry standard.  Grass Valley Group offers even better 
effects on it's Kaleidoscope unit and the video post-production may have 
been done using that.

As for How you do it, spend 600 or 700 bucks an hour for a high tech video 
edit suite and a trained operator.

Paul Bowers
Bowers@bvc.edu
> 
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: tomas@leland.Stanford.EDU (Thomas J. Monica)
Subject: Re: in it for the money
Keywords: Money, Money , Money!
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 23:44:55 GMT

In article <3300@unisql.UUCP> wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.153613.21937@sunspot.noao.edu> brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown) writes:
>>>	Do you really think they play all those shows for the money?
>>Do you think they play for another reason, if they played purely for
>>the asthetic's they would play small venues and in places like Texas,
>
>	i think that the reason they play only large venues has more
>to do with the fact that if they play a place that holds N people
>5*N other people show up to crash the gates and drink beer in the
>parking lot.  i am sure that they'd _rather_ play Red Rocks, Silver
>Stadium, *Star Lake* and Frost as opposed to a steady diet of football
>stadiums.


In fact I seem to recall some statement in the local Press by Jerry, where
he said he was quite bummed that the boys couldn't play at Frost or the
Greek anymore 'cause of the crowd size. There was some statement about how
they'd play'd both venues for years and it was kind of a tradition.

>
-- 
Porpise: run, bike, swim, make cookies


"long distance runner, what you holding out for?"
Organization: Doctoral student, Industrial Administration, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 08:41:05 -0400 
From: Kenneth Murphy <km0o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Personnel to N. Sax

Norma,
Thanks for your totally awesome information.
Keep us up to date...
Being a transplanted Oregonian (went to Reed College, Lived in Stumptown
Lived in Corvallis (Corn Valley)) I promise
to pick up not only all my own garbage, but to  
beseech those I'm with to do the same.
I hope with all my heart that these concerts go well.

Thanks again.
Peace,
Ken



******************************************************************
"One Man Gathers What Another Man Spills"
  -Robert Hunter
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From: sax.uoregon (Norma Sax)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: re:living ex-dead keyboardists
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:41:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: nntp.1992Jul21.234145.14039
Organization: university of oregon

yeah, it was tom constanten. guess he's not the only living ex-dead
keyboardist after all.
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From: ebh@highlite.uucp (Elliot B. Hans)
Subject: Personal to Norma Sax
Organization: Gotham Communications Research
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:41:30 GMT


Norma:

	I tried to [r]eply to your posting, but it failed, and also
tried e-mail to uunet!uoregon!sax, but that bounced also, so I'm posting
this instead (with apologies to the net) ....

	I made plane reservations before I sent for Veneta tickets (to take
advantage of discount airfare), and ended up with a flight that arrives
in Portland at 1:40 pm Saturday.  I'll be renting a car and driving
from Portland to Eugene.  If I had known the shows were going to start
so early, I would have reserved a Friday flight, but it's a little late
now, unless I want to spend another $500 or so ....

	So, I thought I'd see if you could offer any advice on the best
way to get to the show.  Originally, I was planning to drive directly
to the show from Portland, but that was before I started reading postings
about the traffic and parking problems.  I started thinking that maybe
the traffic will have cleared sufficiently by 4:00 (which is about when I
expect to arrive), but I don't know whether I'll be able to park within
reasonable walking distance of the show.  Should I take a shuttle bus
instead of trying to drive directly to the show?  How late will shuttles
be running (will I be able to get a ride as late as 4:00 pm to the show)?

	Can you give me any suggestions as to what will be the best bet for
my wife and I to make it to the show before it's over? ;-(

	Also, Do you know whether there will be any opening acts playing
before the Dead come on?

	Any advice you can give will be *very* grately appreciated!

Elliot Hans

...!uunet!spao!ebh
	-OR-
   ebh@gotham.com

(301) 924-4403 (collect is cool)
3228 Spartan Rd, #62
Olney, MD 20832
From: sowa@netcom.com (Erik Sowa)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Veneta show Eugene net gathering
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:51:23 GMT
Organization: Wahoo 5

>>>>> "Lyle" == Lyle Scheer <Lyle_Scheer@NeXT.com> writes:

Lyle> Well, I've seen a suggestion or two for some brewpub in Eugene for
Lyle> a net gathering before the Veneta shows.

Lyle> for my sake, could we have the net gathering start early enough
Lyle> for me to hang out a while and still have time to ride back to the
Lyle> concert site before the show starts?

Gonna start drinking early, eh? Just kidding about the ethanol, but the
shows are during the day. Sounds to me like a planning a net.gathering
in town before the show would be an exercise in futility. I think the
only chance to meet is in the parking lot or inside.

-- 
Erik Sowa (sowa@netcom.com)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: gsu0013@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Michael Kaminsky)
Subject: Re: Lyrics to "El Paso"
Followup-To:  lyrics to "El Paso" 
Summary:  Try alt.guitar.tab 
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Ssender:  Mike Kaminsky 
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:41:49 GMT

Try alt.guitar.tab newsgroup.  There is a lot of song lyrics there and 
I have also seen the lyrics for El Paso w/ chords to go along with the 
words.  It's a pretty easy tune to play using chords!  Have fun!

mike


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: andyrose@netcom.com (San Francisco Fractal Factory)
Subject: Re: Cal Expo JGB wire
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 10:28:09 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

I remembered the guy said Squaw wasn't into it because they
don't have much water up there, and there is some concern
of environmental impact.

He mentioned something about somewhere in the Sierras,though.

How about Montana?  What don't we all go to Bozeman.
Or Rapid City? 

Bring the dead back.


-- 

Andrew Rose
andyrose@netcom.com
FAX 4155537756

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From: "John A. Trucillo" <trucillo@icarus.montclair.edu>
Subject: tape trading
Reply-To: trucillo@icarus.montclair.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 01:27:00 GMT

I just begun collecting dead tapes and would like to begin trading with some
new people. I have a small list but have all of the summer tour of this year.  
If anyone is intrested in helping my collection grow or would just like to
chat drop me a line and Ill send you my humble list.  
PS ill be at landover and MSG!!
					Peace,
						John Trucillo
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: gsu0013@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Michael Kaminsky)
Subject: Re: Brent Mydland - Rest in peace.
Summary: Brent's last shows - Grovel!
Keywords:  Brent, Mydland, last.
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 03:52:50 GMT


I saw Brent with the band since '81.  He's really been a strong part of
the band for me!  I miss him at shows, too!  But we still have the
miracle of audio tapes!  Now here's the grovel:  I would like to get the
first show that I saw - 12/08/81 at Assembly Hall in Champaign, Il.
They opened with Bertha!  That I will never forget.  I was hooked.    
The next grovel is for the last three shows w/ Brent flailing away on 
the keyboards/organ.  If y'all can recall, they were at the World Music
Theatre in Tinley Park...  there were three shows, but I don't know
or are not sure of the dates.  I think that they were somewhere between
July 19, and July 24, 1990.  That's a lousy venue, but it's the one in
my backyard!


Thanks for helping if you can,

Mike Kaminsky

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From: andyrose@netcom.com (San Francisco Fractal Factory)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Horde Band Update/John Ridnell
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:30:16 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Here's the more:

listed as Blackdog Alumni on Still Movin':
Aric Attas, Matt Sullivan, Chris Childs (hobart drummer)
John Funkhouser (stand up bass and bass guitar)
Rich DePaulo
Bill King, Jim Wolfe, Scott Kitchen, Eric Rudnick
Mark Austin, Michael Tirsch, Adam Hauffman
Jesse Collins (sax), Joe Horner Todd Horton
Todd Billingsley (New School keyboards)
Matt Baxter, Joe Salzano (sax, Ithaca)
Michael Markus (IC, New School percussion)
Jeff Miller (drums)
Kris Jefferson (funky f u n k y bass)
Jeff Allen, Pavel Maciwoda, Avram Lavinsky, Jim Harrris
Jon DeCrescente (bass), Dave Innis, Reggie Washington
and Neil Miller

check out Choosey Mothers NYC, Emerald Zoo,
and the Ithaca Horns.

As for tour: expect Black Dog Band in Colorado late Sept, October
and then on to California....

AnR

-- 

Andrew Rose
andyrose@netcom.com
FAX 4155537756
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com>
Subject: Re:   Dead-Flames Digest #81 (was: Tipper & free speech)
Reply-To: sjeck@isi.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:22:57 GMT

mattb@ctron.com (Matt Brown) writes:
|The question was rhetorical.  I was identifying what I thought was the key
|issue, once it is granted that free speech must not be abridged.  Recognizing
|no limits to free speech does not mean that it is wrong to find certain uses
|of it offensive or inappropriate. 

You just don't get it do you?  There is no such thing as "wrong."
Except if it goes against stuff your mother told you.

|If you can't stop it, and an instance of what you consider an "excess" has 
|occured, what do you do then? 

learn to deal with it.

|I guess I didn't explain well enough what I meant by "abuse". I see
|abuse as a term describing the use of free speech to distort or disinform, or
|to inflict hurt intentionally. 

Your government does this daily.  What are you going to do about it?
Ronnie Ray-Gunz came out again to say that he didn't do anything wrong
in the Iran-Contra dealings.

|Maybe I should have stated it in a coarser manner for this audience.  I was
|trying to boil the argument down to "bottom line: whatta ya do?" 

in coarse terms, learn to deal with it.  the answer to most questions
in life is a lot simpler than we think.

Don't buy the bullshit just because some authority says it's so.
Educate yourself.  Take some personal responsibility. and VOTE!

Steve-TOO

"we used to play for silver now we play for life..."

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: bagchi@eecs.umich.edu (Ranjan Drzzzzt!  Bagchi)
Subject: Re: Ice-T (Still no Dead Content)
Organization: Recreational Creationists, Inc.
	<1992Jul30.123311.24692@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:39:48 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.123311.24692@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
>I think the whole stink about Ice-T was that he was BLACK and did a song about
>killing cops. I mean, there was (is? dont listen to punk myself) a punk band
>called MDC--Millions of Dead Cops, and they certainly never attracted such
>widespread media attention. Of course, they werent on Time/Warner records,
>either....

	Umm... I'll go a little further.  NWA's got a pretty well known
song out... "Fuck the Police"..   It peeved off a few boysinblue, but
nothing of the Ice-T scale came out.  The difference?

	NWA stuck to the rap format.
	Ice T's album is heavy metal.  Listened to by white kids.. uh oh..

	-rj


--
Ranjan Bagchi:   Di.sigsgvirusuise                 Ranjan.Bagchi@umich.edu
oo   oooo  o oo   ooo oo oo   oo       o o  oooo ooo o       o        oooooooo
From: broccoli@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Brooke Nielsen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Tape
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:38:01 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

I am looking for a tape. 12-12-81.  If anyone has it out there I would
appriate it if you could write me.

Thanks in advance!

UUCP: {crash, kksys, petrus, quest}!orbit!pnet51!broccoli
ARPA: crash!orbit!pnet51!broccoli@nosc.mil
INET: broccoli@pnet51.orb.mn.org
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From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re: Ties designed by Jerry Garcia!!!!
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 20:00:38 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.180202.2053@hubcap.clemson.edu> sbhatia@eng.clemson.edu writes:
>Hey deadheads....
>Check out the latest issue of The Economist....Pg 66 I think...
>Ties designed by Jerry Garcia...on sale for $ 28.50 in New York....
>Of course, he refuses to wear them...
Gee! Really, boy news travels fast!:-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>V<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 
>TODD|-ODD-|:-)                   |         Nothing Left To Do But  <
>brown@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu  /|\             :-) :-) :-)        <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>V<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
From: reb@ingres.com (Phydeaux)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: "ex-GD keyboard player"
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:25:18 GMT
Reply-To: reb@ingres.com
Organization: The Internet

|and someone else whose name I can't remember, but who 
|was introduced as "the only livcing ex-GD keyboard player", 
|were part of a band called the "Dead Ringers." They were 

You're talking about Tom Constanten.
					reb
From: burnett@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Gary Burnett)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re:   parental warning Oh nO!
Date: 25 Jul 92 00:59:47 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Jul24.222420.11364@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> sjeck@isi.com (Steve -- The Other One) writes:

> geoff@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Geoff Wells) writes:
> |behold Meet the Beatles becomes mine! She loves you ya ya ya. I'm in seventh
> |heaven. Dear ol' Dad comes home from the grind and says "Turn that shit 
> |off!" And so begins a wonderful relationship between my Dad, Me , and rock
> |and roll.

> and to think my parents bought me "Meet The Beatles" as a Christmas
> gift!  They never did like those Allman Brothers though :-)

I was 9 years old when the Beatles first were on the Ed Sullivan Show,
& I was naive enough to think that I had to pretend not to like them.

It wasn't until about 1966 that I realized that I could love music my
parents couldn't tolerate.

Though even several years later, I still felt the need, when KQED
(the San Francisco public tv station) had a live broadcast of a
Jefferson Airplane show, to make enough noise during the "up against
the wall, motherfucker" line of "We Should Be Together" that they
wouldn't make me turn the tv off.

--Gary B.
-- 
Gary Burnett                             burnett@gandalf.rutgers.edu 
130 Columbia Street                      gburnett@zodiac.rutgers.edu   
Highland Park, NJ  08904                          jera@well.sf.ca.us

"Things then did not delay in turning curious."  --Thomas Pynchon
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Camping near Stowe Vt ??
From: jlovkay@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:07:50 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

If any of you have experience or knowledge of the Stowe Vt area camping scene,
please do tell ! I'm one of those citified folk eagle spoke of, wanna go into
the mountains and indulge myself :) 

Also, any info on hostel like ski type accomodations that may be open thru
summertime might be useful too !

Thanks, Jim
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