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From: PLai@cup.portal.com (Patrick L Faith)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
Subject: Review: WDF 3000 wet/dry power filter
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 20:28:39 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Review: Second Nature WDF 3000 Wet/Dry Power Filter

Second Nature, which makes the Whisper Power Filter series, has
a new power filter that has a wet/dry section.  What they added
was a reservior where the water use to go down a shoot back into
the tank (.i.e. picture a standard power filter, but instead of
having the return water plop down a shoot right back into the
tank, raise the lip level and have a wet/dry medium area where
the water drips back into the tank).

Pluses: this has to better than Marinelands powerwheel.
Minuses: what doesn't work better than the powerwheel.

Pluses: Wet/Dry area seems to work perty good.
Minuses: Not much room for the Wet/Dry area.

Pluses: Variable flow controls
Minuses: only the lowest control settings allow correct water
         flow through the filter - and even then I had to raise
         the siphon to allow to flow back the secondary route
         due to overflow of the wet/dry area.

Pluses: Overall design is well thought out and solid.
Pluses: Easy to install.
Minuses: unlike standard wet/dry medium, it uses a foam substance
         which needs to be squezed out in the tank water form time
         to time ( they give you a bag to put tank water[that wont
         kill the bacteria] in and wash out the sponge when it starts
         to channel to much.

Overall I like the thing, though I might replace the wet/dry medium
with some of those small ceramic ovals you uses for canister filters.
Standard wet/dry bio balls would be way to big, though a small amount
of biobale might work. I'd think the wet/dray area is around 15 square
inches - so it's very important not to waist any space.  The
unit has a standard drip plate over the wet/dry area which works perty good.
I'm using the unit on a 35 gallon tank with 3 15 watt. tubes, 3 angel fish
2 guppies (for now), and a splattering of plants.  I would not feel
comfortable using this filter on my prize discus tank - where I use a
standard wet/dry system with 3 gallons of biobale.

PLai
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: HELP FOR BEGINNER
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:06:46 GMT

In article <92348.191630ERSHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> Eric Schweitzer <ERSHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>In article <3205.402.uupcb@the-matrix.com>, janet.rawlins@the-matrix.com (Janet
>Rawlins) says:
>>
>>-> 3 weeks ago, I went to the local pet store and came home with 5 fish
>>-> recommended by the storekeeper:
>>-> 1 M betta
>>-> 1 F betta
>>
>>First of all, I have to ask: has the male betta finished killing the
>>female yet?  That pet shop owner was apparently either extremely
>><stuff about the male killing the female deleted>
>
>I must disagree.
>I have kept males in community tanks for quite a while (one male at a
>time, of course), lately (for over a year) with females. They are happier
>with two females, but even with one, I have had no trouble with untword
>aggression. A bit of fin nipping, perhaps. but that is all. Of course,
>they have not bred, but I don't expect them to. These are community tanks.
 
 Your both right.
With enough diversions the male gets preoccupied. Two females means they
get picked on half as much. The more room the less picking, etc etc.
Put your male in a small tank with just the female, no plants no diversions.
She won't last long.
 
Of interest: 
I use to pick up shipments from asia at O'hare airport. The bettas (male) 
come in, in big boxes with perhaps a thousand little bags in a box(styrofoam).
Many of these bags had no water in them. The fish were usually alive. These
fish have a bladder that enables them to breath air. They were damp. The'll
die if they dry. They come from muddy rice pattie type backgrounds.
The bag are blipped with oxygen prior to shipment.

 
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From: tli@caldera.usc.edu (Tony Li)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria,sci.aquaria
Subject: Pointer to FAQ
Date: 15 Dec 1992 01:05:04 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Reply-To: tli@cisco.com,patti@hosehead.hf.intel.com
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	 Pointer to FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) for *.aquaria

The FAQ for sci.aquaria, rec.aquaria and alt.aquaria is posted monthly on
the first on of the month.  It is posted with an extended expiration time,
so it may still be on your news machine.

The FAQ (and any other useful information that is submitted) will be 
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Please be gentle, as the machine is an overused Sun 3/60.

Correspondence regarding the FAQ should be directed to Tony Li
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From: ljkong@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Lennard J. Kong)
Subject: Re: OSCAR BREEDING BEHAVIOR?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:45:10 GMT

In article <3207.402.uupcb@the-matrix.com> janet.rawlins@the-matrix.com (Janet Rawlins)  writes:
>      I'm somewhat new to the world of oscars, and need some advice
>about oscar "body language".  My two oscars are now about 6 inches long
>and are installed in a 55-gal. tank which they love. I have no idea
>whether I have two males, two females, or a male/female pair. But one of
>the oscars does a really funny trick of vibrating its tail when the
>other fish is close to it. The other fish also occasionally acts mildly
>aggressive toward him/her, with the result that this fish will lay over
>on its side as some sort of placation.  Then later they sidle up
>together again and the tail vibrating starts again. Sometimes the
>dominant fish also vibrates his/her tail along with the other one.

  It is quite difficult to make tell sometimes with oscars, they are probably
as complex with relations as human beings. I had a pair which had the same
behaviour except that they would occasionally fight with considerable damage to
each other. So I separated them for about a few months or so in separate tanks
not knowing if they wer  male or female. Then one day when I had to use the tank for an emergency I put them back together, then lo and behold they spawned the
very next day. Ever since they have not had any bad behaviour and they spawned
quite regularly depending upon how well I fed them.


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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wednesday, 16 Dec 1992 00:04:27 EST
From: <APARKER@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: (F) HELP with setting up 180G tank
 <1992Dec15.024638.13034@bsu-ucs>

In article <1992Dec15.024638.13034@bsu-ucs>, 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu says:
>
>Now this is what I don't buy concerning W/D trickle filter -- that they can
>replace _THREE_ canister filters for mechanical filtering.  How?
>
>Seems the only reason to get a W/D tricle is to get improved bio-action and
>reduced maintenance.

If one was to employ a trickle filter on a well-stocked 180gal, the return
pump would have to turn over an honest 1000 gph to meet the nominal 5 tank
volumes/hour number for optimal filtration.  In this case, 1000 gph of
water would be flowing from the tank, through the sponge/floss prefilters
in the overflows, and back to the tank.  Assuming that the water return is
used to provide some sort of water motion in the tank to keep particulate
matter suspended, how is this different than 1000 gph flowing through the
sponge fine filters in three Fluval 403's (+-340gph each)??

Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: galahad@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scott Compton)
Subject: Shadowfin Shark Twitching!
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 04:56:40 GMT

I have been having problems with my two Shadowfin Sharks (South
American).  Since they are of the cat-fish make, they are super
sensitive to any change in water condition.  With maintaining all
of the necessary conditions of the water (Salt, pH, Water conditioner,
temperature, etc.) funny things happen when I give my 30G tank a 1/4 
water change.
	About fifteen minutes after the change, the sharks break out of 
their normal cloakwise swimming pattern, and hover in one spot of the 
tank.  Suddenly, they will twitch unexpectedly.  The whole body, mid-
way through, will jerk and then, they will go back to hovering.  About
an hour after the water has settled, they are normal again.  My Oscar,
Pleco, and catfish are totally fine, and don't do a thing but their
regular stuff...
	What is going on!!!? I am concerned that I might be causing
damage to them.  Even the last water change about a week ago caused
problems with them, and I only drained about 15% of the water!  I am
being gentle, and not introducing chemicals in damaging ways....
Are they that sensitive?  And why are they twitching?

Thanks.  

Scotty

-- 

Sir Galahad, Son of Sir Lancelot, Grandson of Sir Parkinglot.
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: livings@unislc.uucp (Ross Livingston)
Subject: Re: how many fish is too many?
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:02:41 GMT

papa_sm00sh (jdhl@troi.cc.rochester.edu) wrote:
: right now in my 30 gal tank i have about 43 fish... 7 tetras, 4

Wow, that's a lot.

: ... is this too many?
I'd say by a long shot.  Can you imagine them that dense in nature?

: what is a good ratio to keep?  it is a standard rectangular 30 gallon
: aqaurium with about 28 gallons of water in it (accounting for the
: rocks and plants)...
and fish!  They probably displace a few gallons themselves!

Though this sounds like an aweful lot of fish (I have 5 (4 under 2") in
a 55g), you should know better than anyone else how they're doing.  That
is the biggest factor to consider.  Of coarse, with this many you'll
certainly have to do major water changes.

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From: jdhl@troi.cc.rochester.edu (papa_sm00sh)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: [F] Safe medical plan ???
Date: 12 Dec 92 19:27:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York




if it is indeed scratching... just try putting something in the water
that helps promote healthy mucous in the fish... the ones that get
scratched will learn to stay away... also, do you have any non-shrap
areas for the bumble-bee catfish to rest on?  i have some floating
spawning grass in my aquarium and they love to sit ON TOP OF THE WATER
on the grass or resting on the leaves of the (plastic) plants...


about the scrtahcing... promote a healthy mucous layer to keep the
fish' scratches from getting infected and perhaps add some anti-biotic
(penicillin) to the water every copuple weeks to ward off any
infections that may have started... an 'overdose' of pen will not harm
the fish (unless they are alergic to it).  I have used both pet store
pen and some leftovers from an Rx I had from last winter... no bad
sideeffects in either case...


good luck,

jason
From: jdhl@troi.cc.rochester.edu (papa_sm00sh)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: Too many fish... :(
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:17:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York



I still support that it is more humane to take the baby fish to the
store to be used as feeder for other fish than to fluysh them down the
drain... at least this way they are used for something...

jason

what that has to do with humane, I don't know... but i sleep better...
not that i usually have trouble sleeping anyway...
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: pprior@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul A Prior)
Subject: Re: How to convert from UGF to RUGF
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:57:25 GMT

In article <Dec.16.11.52.27.1992.27798@remus.rutgers.edu> bjkramer@remus.rutgers.edu (Brian Kramer) writes:
>
>I am going to be converting to an UGF to a RUGF.  I plan on vacumming
>the gravel extremely well.  (the tank is a 55g and hasn't been running
>too long - also has an Eheim and a Whisper 4).  Is there anything else
>I should do besides vacuming the gravel?  I am using Penguin 1140's.

The biggest (only?) problem with RFUGF systems is making sure you have
surface motion to provide oxygenation. If you have an eheim, a whisper 4
-AND- two 1140's running RFUGF you are lookin' good! ;)


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3rd year medical student		        
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From: 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: [F] RFUGF - What equipment to use?
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:51:01 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

> Everyone has been talking about the problems/benefits of RFUGFs enough
> that I would like to try one on one of my 55g tanks.  What type of
> power head will give the appropriate flow rate & which manufacturer of
> the plate is a good choice (Eg: System 3)?

System 3 is specifically designed to be run in standard UGF mode, so I'd rule
it out at the biginning.  Probably any standard UGF plate would work (a la
Perfecto Undertow).

				-Matt
From: janet.rawlins@the-matrix.com (Janet Rawlins) 
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: RE: OSCAR BREEDING BEHAVI
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:44:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The MATRIX BBS - Birmingham, AL - 205-323-2016
Reply-To: janet.rawlins@the-matrix.com (Janet Rawlins) 

-> It is quite difficult to make tell sometimes with oscars, they are
-> probably as complex with relations as human beings. I had a pair
-> which had the same behaviour except that they would occasionally
-> fight with considerable damage to

It's definitely hard to sex the rascals!  Impossible, really, for
everyone except the fish themselves.  I guess I'll just have to wait and
see if they ever spawn.  Then I'll know.

Janet
                                                                                 
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: rg@crayamid.cray.com (Rich Garrett)
Subject: Dwarf Cichlids - Apistogrammas for SALE
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-15169]: atoll.navo.navy.mil
Reply-To: rg@crayamid.cray.com (Rich Garrett)
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:27:01 GMT


I am moving cross country next month (Jan) and would like to clean out
my tanks.  I have the following Apisto's for sale.

A. iniridae
A. cacatoides (all females)
A. (sp) Swartzsaum
A. (sp) Orangeswanze
A. Borelli
A. Bitiniatta
A. Agassizi (male only)
A. Vijeta (males only)
A. cateii


Please contact me for pricing and availabity.
I live in Louisiana, and can ship from New Orleans via Express Mail.

Rich Garrett
rg@crayamid.cray.com
HOME (504) 649-6988
WORK (601) 688-5057
 
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From: robin@fisher.bio.uci.edu (Robin Bush)
Subject: Re: Need Advice on Hardy Fish
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Reply-To: robin@fisher.bio.uci.edu
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:07:42 GMT

In article <BzDp49.3F8@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> hoff@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Wildfire)  
writes:
> This Christmas, I am interested in getting my younger brother some 
> items for his aquarium.  I'm definately getting a siphon, since he
> never cleans it and last time he did I think he used a plastic cup
> for the water change.  I'm also probably getting him a nitrates kit, 
> since from what I hear, his tank crashed and the only survivors are
> a pair of gold fish.  For his birthday, which is a week or two 
> after Christmas (if his water is alright) I'd like to get him some 
> fish.  What are good type of hardy fish that would get along with 2
> 1 1/2" goldfish?  I'd like REALLY hardy ones, since even though I'm 
> getting him a syphon and other misc. cleaning supplies, I don't know how
> often he'll use them.  I'd also like to get him this stuff cuz if I
> don't, the fish will really suffer.  Last time I was home, he had been
> "cleaning" out his tank.  There was about four inches of water left
> in the tank, and it was left like that for a few days.....poor fish!
> I figure that the easier I make it to clean his tank, the more often
> he'll do it, and do it right.   Any suggestions?  The tank is 
> freshwater, 20 gal, with a heater.  Also, if you can think of anything
> else that will help in getting him to "clean" the tank correctly, I'll
> welcome those suggestions, too......
> 
> -Lisa




Why are you getting more fish for your brother? He obviously isn't  
interested in them, or he would take care of them.  It is irresponsible to  
subject the poor helpless fish to mistreatment. Why not get him one of  
those videotapes of fish that people play to entertain their cats?


----------------------------------------------------------
Robin
From: dominick@protocol.zycad.com (Dom Paniscotti)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: Are W/D trickle filters worth it?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 10:53:19 -0500
Organization: Protocol, a Division of ZYCAD Corporation
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: dominick@protocol.zycad.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: hayaku.protocol.zycad.com


In article <1992Dec16.212548.13641@microsoft.com>, rickkr@microsoft.com (Rick Krause) writes:
|> > Another important thing is if
|> > you have any fish in your tank (other than invertabrates etc) you
|> > absolutly need a source of mechnical  filtration. I use a canister
|> > filter. 
|> 
|> I had thought about using my Fluval cannister filter as a backup in
|> case my pump dies (and it's been showing signs lately), but I seem
|> to remember reading somewhere that you shouldn't use a cannister
|> with a W/D because the cannister depends on siphoning action.

I don't understand the problem, why not place a mechanical filter in-
line somewhere?  Most W/D's designs have a prefilter before the media chamber 
or in the overflow. 
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From: jdhl@troi.cc.rochester.edu (papa_sm00sh)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: Fish Transportation
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:45:10 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York



a two hour drive is not that bad... you could even keep the lids on if
the jugs have air from, say, the handle on up (milk jugs?)...

how long will you be home?  for a couple weeks- month?

maybe just try and keep them in the jugs... with changing a little of
the water everyday it might not be so bad... (inexperienced at this,
but it's my guess...)

I am going home for 3 weeks also... but i live 1 hour from where i am
now... so i am simply going to keep my fish slightly overfed for the
last few days before I leave and will leave "holiday pellets" in the
tank and will return about once a week to feed them real food (brine
shrimp and flakes and tubifex worms...) then leave them with the
"holidaypellets" until my next return... fish can survive going 7 days
without food if they are well fed prior... this is what  I did when
moving my tank here... I didn't feed them the morning I left (they
were already packed and i didn't want the water quality to deteriorate
by the food decomposing and the increase in waste they would generate
by eating that day) and I did not get to feed them until 2 days later
(they went 3 days with no food)... i had no casualties...

jason
From: shores@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: (F)  fin rot in tetras (raggedy looking)
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:04:27 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

Hiya...

I have a ten gallon tank with some small tetras (neons, glow-light, and 
black phantom tetras).   I just noticed that the neons and glow-lights
have some fin rot...I hate dumping medications into my tank and I know 
that tetras are more sensitive to medications than are some other fish.
Any ideas about how i should treat?  Specific medication names that
you've had success with would be appreciated.  

Thanks in advance...

Amy Grupenhoff, graduate student in perpetuem ad nausem  

e-mail to agrupeno@ccmail.sunysb.edu  (internet)  
		  @sbccma   (Bitnet)
From: jdhl@troi.cc.rochester.edu (papa_sm00sh)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: Too many fish... :(
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:46:53 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York



most pet stores will take your mollies but not buy them as they
readily reproduce in the store and are quite plentiful... if you had,
say, oscars or betas however, you might be able to arrange a swap...

jason
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From: kao@duke.cs.duke.edu (Ming Kao)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
Subject: (F) HELP with setting up 180G tank
Date: 11 Dec 92 17:46:57 GMT
Followup-To: alt.aquaria
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

I am about to buy a 180G tank for fresh water fish. I would
appreciate helps with the following questions.

1. Is UGF suitable for a tank of this size? My local fish stores
do not seem to use UGFs in their large tanks?

2. If you recommend UGF, where do I buy one of this size?

Thanks. --- Ming
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Subject: Re:  Buckets!
From: lynx@surrey.amigans.gen.nz (Lynsey Gedye)
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:35:07 GMT-12
 <1992Dec7.145303.16957@news2.cis.umn.edu> <1992Dec7.130938.12726@bsu-ucs>
Distribution: world
Organization: Prime Line, Wanganui, New Zealand

In article <1992Dec7.130938.12726@bsu-ucs> 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
>Does everyone using a R/O system just waste the discard water? 
>I would hope everyone saves it for watering plants/garden

  I sure use the discard water out of my marine tank to water the
  asparagus bed - figuring the nutrient would give 'em a burst.
  Seems right so far.  Best crop for years.  Salt probably bad for
  other crops tho', but the weeds seem to do ok =;}
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