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From: aa699@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Thomas)
Subject: Re: Garbo CD ROM for Mac: HELP!
Reply-To: aa699@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Thomas)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 19:17:33 GMT


In a previous article, dl1@ukc.ac.uk (D.Langford) says:

>
>This CD-ROM has to be one of the worst I've seen... the way to get files
>from it onto your Mac is to use Apple File Exchange (which comes with all
>Macs) set to MacBinary and Mac-to-Mac. This works, doesn't involve getting
>any additonal converters and is - fairly - straightforward.
>
>Why the purple blazes the rip-off merchants who put this thing together
>didn't include an uncompressed decoding application or two on the hundreds
>of spare megabytes of space.. or, hey, uncompress the files /themselves/,
>thus avoiding people duplicating the decompression process, or, like several
>of the posters here, getting totally stuck.
>
>Would it be too much to ask why the vendors didn't include instructions?
>
Having reviewed this CD-ROM earlier, I found it to be useful and a very
good value.  I do not, however, use a Mac.  There are some uncompressed
file converters in the ARCers subdirectory of the disc, like Stuffit,
etc.

In all fairness, the problems with getting stuff into a Mac have more
to do with the way the Mac is setup than anything else.  The disc is
a 9660 standard, so that isn't the problem.  In Apple's desire to be
proprietary, they have made getting stuff into their machines quite
convoluted, especially from other types of machines. 

The GARBO CD-ROM is nothing more than a snapshot of the GARBO archives
at the University of Vaasa, Finland.  The vendors (in this case Walnut
Creek CD-ROM) just put the archives in toto on disc at a *very*
reasonable price. 

If Walnut Creek had to decompress all that data on the disc, first of
all, you would never fit both the IBM and Mac archives on it.  Secondly,
they would have to charge sigificantly more to justify the extra work.
And finally, the stuff on the disc would not be nearly as current.

While I can understand your frustration, I think that your arrows should
be directed towards Cupertino and not Walnut Creek!
 

-- 
aa699@Cleveland.Freenet.EDU/GEnie=A.THOMAS16/Compuserve:71541,3456
TONY THOMAS - SIGop - Audio Arts SIG - Cleveland FreeNet
"True riches is not what you have - It's the kind of person you are"
From: dvss!jtroy@udel.edu (Jay Troy)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: CDROM access under OS/2
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 09:05:00 EDT
Organization: Delaware Valley Solution Systems, Inc.


> After finally figuring out CDROM support in DOS, I have to start all
> over in OS/2. I would like CDROM access in both native OS/2 and a DOS
> box under OS/2. I know that OS/2 supposedly has CDROM support builtin,

It does.  For the IBM drives, and for SCSI third party drives.  I've used
both the Sony CDU 531 (Sony proprietary interface) and the Sony CDU 541
(SCSI interface).  For OS/2, the 541 wins hands down.


> but it does not recognize my drive. And the DOS box doesn't "boot"
> CONFIG.SYS so I cannot load the device drivers. Perhaps the "DOS from
> drive A:" Command Prompt will help, but before I spend the next week
> getting lost, I thought I'd ask for help.

What you need to do if you don't have the previous mentioned drives, is
use the OS/2 command VMDISK to create a bootable "diskette image" on your
hard disk.  On the diskette image file, you will copy a CONFIG.SYS file,
an AUTOEXEC.BAT, and the drivers you require for your CDROM.  This feature
allows you use any driver with OS/2.  The down side is that you can't
access the device in the image box from any OS/2 window.  You have to use
the bootable image box to copy files back and forth between the image box
and any other.  If you have one of the supported drives, you can access it
from any box.


> The CDROM interface card is an Hitachi IFI4 and the drive is
> an AMDEK LaserDrive (aka Hitachi 1502 or 1503).

Call Hitachi and tell them that you want a driver to be written to support
OS/2.  If enough people do that, perhaps the drive will get direct support,
I did that with Sony when I had my 541.


> For access under OS/2, do I need a device driver for the drive?

Yes, you will need the driver that came with the drive.  For a SCSI drive,
the built-in CDROM.SYS driver is enough.


> Do I need MSCDEX?

With the proprietary drive, yes.  With CDROM.SYS, no.


> Where can I obtain appropriate versions? (AMDEK and Hitachi have not
> always been great on product/software support.

It should've come with the drive.  If not contact Hitachi.  You should contact
them to let them know there is an interest in direct OS/2 support.


> Are the drivers available from IBM? From a BBS? Via ftp?)

The drive manufacturer.


> For access in a DOS box, how can I load the DOS device driver?

See the on-line docs for VMDISK.  Then copy the drivers to the virtual
diskette.


> Is there a FAQ for this somewhere?

Nope.


 Jay Troy        Delaware Valley Solution Systems, Inc.
                 Computing Solutions for Business and Industry
                 P.O. Box 190 // Claymont, DE 19703 // (302)798-DVSS
                 Internet: ...!udel.edu!dvss!jtroy (jtroy@dvss.UUCP)
--
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: odonovan@sciborg.UWaterloo.CA (Chris O'Donovan)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM articles?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:12:35 GMT

I'm posting this here because others may be interested. Walnut Creek (address below) maintains a FTP site (cdrom.com) that has a list of publications in /pub/pubs as well as other files.

        Walnut Creek CDROM
        1547 Palos Verdes Mall
        Suite 260
        Walnut Creek, CA  94596

        +1 800 786-9907
        +1 510 947-5996
        +1 510 947-1644 FAX

        wc.cdrom.com (192.153.46.254)

Note: I have never had any dealings with Walnut Creek.

-- 
Chris O'Donovan               |
odonovan@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca |
From: whitney@wcw.mro4.dec.com (Bill Whitney)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.perifs.scsi
Subject: Laser Magnetics Storage International - TYPE CM212
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:37:35 GMT
Reply-To: whitney@wcw.mro4.dec.com (Bill Whitney)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


--

I'm looking for any information available on a Laser Magnetics
International Corporation - TYPE CM212 CDROM drive.  This is a SCSI bus
drive manufactured on 11/89. I'd like to know if it is possible to use this
drive under MSDOS (using a driver in ASW-410) or OS/2 V2.0.

Also, If someone has the phone # for Laser Magnetics, could they please
post it.  I think they are located somewhere in Colorado.


Thanks,
 
Bill Whitney
Digital Equipment Corporation
Marlboro. Ma.
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: WALTERG@VM2.YORKU.CA (Walter Giesbrecht)
Subject: Audio CDs and MPC hardware
Reply-To: Walter Giesbrecht <WALTERG@VM2.YORKU.CA>
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:25:36 GMT

I've recently installed the new NEC  multimedia upgrade kit, and was wondering
if I  have a  problem. Should I  be able to  place a  regular audio CD  in the
CD-ROM drive, play it and have the sound come through the speakers attached to
the sound board?  The sound comes through fine on  the headphones plugged into
the drive  itself, but nothing via  the speakers. WAV files  come through loud
and clear through the  speakers, but no "regular" audio does. Do  I have a bum
cable or what? All of the relevant drivers have been installed (I think).

Walter Giesbrecht
WALTERG@VM2.YORKU.CA
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: freudent@vlsi3.ultra.nyu.edu (Eric Freudenthal)
Subject: Informaition needed on mastering cd-roms (for data)
Organization: /a/users/freudent/.organization
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:54:01 GMT

Please send me mail if you know of companys that master and/or produce
cd-roms.

I'll post whatever info I get.

Thank you, Eric
--
 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
				Eric Freudenthal
				NYU Ultracompter Lab
				715 Broadway, 10th floor
				New York, NY  10003
				
				Phone:(212) 998-3345 work
				      (718) 789-4486 home
				Email:freudent@lab.ultra.nyu.edu
From: bearden@HP800.LASALLE.EDU (Eithne Bearden)
Subject: (none)
Reply-To: Eithne Bearden <bearden@HP800.LASALLE.EDU>
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:13:37 GMT

confirm cdrom-l
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
Subject: Re: Please repost source for simtel CD
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 05:33:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.172256.18842@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aa699@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Thomas) writes:
>
>You can get it from Walnut Creek CD-ROM at 1-800-786-9907.  The price is
>$24.95 plus  shipping. 
>
>-- 
>aa699@Cleveland.Freenet.EDU/GEnie=A.THOMAS16/Compuserve:71541,3456
>TONY THOMAS - SIGop - Audio Arts SIG - Cleveland FreeNet
>"True riches is not what you have - It's the kind of person you are"

And I sell these Walnut Creek CD-ROMs here in northern Europe.  I have
now Amiga, Cica, Garbo, OS/2,  Simtel (June version),  Source code and
X11 and Gnu CDs on stock. Also CD-ROM caddies. Prices  are the same as
Walnut Creek advertises. That is  $25USD (Amiga, Cica, Garbo, OS/2 and
Simtel) and $39.95USD (Source and X11/GNU) for the discs.

-harri-
-- 
----------Harri Valkama, University of Vaasa, FINLAND--------
NeXTMail: hv@bacall.uwasa.fi 
----------Anon ftp moderator at garbo.uwasa.fi (128.214.87.1)
P.O.Box 700, 65101 VAASA, Finland (tel:+358 61 3248364 
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: Information needed on SONY CD-ROM audio command set
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 05:01:36 GMT

In <1992Jul26.070918.28121@cheshire.oxy.edu> rafetmad@cheshire.oxy.edu (David Giller) writes:
| I am working on writing a CD-ROM driver for the linux operating system.
| Currently, I have a functional driver for data-mode 1, but I am hoping
| to add audio capability as well.
| 
| Can anyone point me towards information about Sony's Audio command set?
| My CDU-541 doesn't seem to respond to standard SCSI-II audio commands.
| In reading through our Sun-4 header files, I see reference to two
| Sony-specific audio control commands, but there is no other information
| given.

It is probably one of the older drives that requires use of vendor
specific commands; the newer Sony drives accept both the vendor
specific commands of their old models, and the SCSI-2 standard
commands.  Try your asking your distributor for the programmers
manual for your drive; it may cost a bit, but it will save a lot
of frustration.
--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: troeste@Lise.Unit.NO (Trygve R|ste)
Subject: Playing music on SUN CD-rom-player
Organization: University of Trondheim
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 10:13:54 GMT

Anybody knowing about a program to control a SUN CD-rom-player as a music-player?
It is (of course?) connected to the SCSI port. The computer is an ICL Alfaskop
S30 (SUN Sparkstation IPX) NOT running DesktopSPARC.

Thanks in advance!

-Trygve
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: mpalmer@encore.com (Mike Palmer)
Subject: Kodak Photo-CD - IS IT AVAILABLE NOW?
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:39:04 GMT

Has anyone seen this available from any Photo-Processors yet?


Regards,	
Mike palmer    				Telephone: (305) 797-2326 (W)
email: mpalmer@encore.com               	   (305) 746-3146 (H)
From: tnguyen@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Thinh Nguyen)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:18:58 GMT
Subject: Re: Garbo CD ROM for Mac: HELP!
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom

/ hpcc01:alt.cd-rom / ulrich@tpki.toppoint.de (Ulrich Gall) /  1:07 pm  Jul 19, 1992 /

  I'm not sure this is a answer for your question, but in order to "extract"
  the Mac's file from that CD-ROM you need to run Apple File Exchange
  to convert Macbinary to Mac first.

>I have the Garbo CD ROM and can't get the self-extracting pgms
>to run. They are documents, not applications, so I can't get them to run.
>
>Please HELP!
>
>
>Thanks a lot,
>
>
>Ulrich
>-- 
>Ulrich Gall		ulrich@tpki.toppoint.de
>2300 Klausdorf
>----------
>
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: ALIAR@FRMOP11.BITNET
Subject: (none)
Reply-To: ALIAR@FRMOP11.bitnet
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 06:33:50 GMT

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Se tratan, ademas, algunas disciplinas conexas como TRADUCCION,
DOCUMENTACION, REDES DE INVESTIGACION, LENGUAS y LINGUISTICA

Hoy, como promotora del proyecto REDALC (Red Cientifica para America
Latina y el Caribe), y entendiendo que el uso de las redes telematicas es
actualmente un camino ineludible en el flujo inmediato y economico de la
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Esta version electronica sera completamente gratuita, reducida en
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favorecer el dialogo entre las principales lenguas latinas en los
terrenos citados, o sea que contamos muy especialmente con todos aquellos
que deseen conversar, intercambiar informaciones, pedir colaboracion,
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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: jjh@col.hp.com (Jeff Haeffele-x3570)
Subject: Re: Compton Encyclopedia ???
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:40:43 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

The MediaVision Pro Audio-16 bundle includes the NEC 83J rom
drive and the Compton Multimedia Encyclopedia.  It also comes
with several other cdroms and the pas16 sound board.
You can get the bundle from Telemart for $946.
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: gould@waterloo.hp.com (Dan Gould)
Subject: Re: Thanks to all who posted SIMTEL-CD info
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:20:46 GMT
Organization: HP Panacom Div Waterloo ON Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4

system@coldbox.cojones.com (Bryan Lockwood) writes:
: I'd like to thank all who helped me with finding a source for the simtel CD.
: I received quite a few emails, and noted several followups here: thanks
: agiain! I beleive I'll get it from Walnut Creek.


If you do, you won't reget it. I have ordered from Walnut Creek in the past
and found them to be friendly, effecient and fast!

--
Dan Gould
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D.)
Subject: Re: Garbo CD ROM for Mac: HELP!
Reply-To: aland@cs.brandeis.edu
Organization: As little as possible
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 03:25:00 GMT

dl1@ukc.ac.uk (D.Langford) writes:

>This CD-ROM has to be one of the worst I've seen... the way to get files
>from it onto your Mac is to use Apple File Exchange (which comes with all
>Macs) set to MacBinary and Mac-to-Mac. This works, doesn't involve getting
>any additonal converters and is - fairly - straightforward.

When I called to order the Garbo CD, I was specifically _told_ that
they were "not proud" of this, that it was their worst CD, and that it
had some problems.

>Why the purple blazes the rip-off merchants who put this thing together
>didn't include an uncompressed decoding application or two on the hundreds
>of spare megabytes of space.. or, hey, uncompress the files /themselves/,
>thus avoiding people duplicating the decompression process, or, like several
>of the posters here, getting totally stuck.

They could have.  The only problem is, there isn't one.  At least, as
far as I've seen.  Actually, I'm told BinHex 5.0 will do this, but
I've never seen it.

>Would it be too much to ask why the vendors didn't include instructions?

Maybe they didn't know how?  Maybe they figured that anyone who knows
about the Garbo archive already, will know how to use the files from
it?  I couldn't tell you...

>This you-can-do-without-it CD-ROM encourages me to suggest a FAQ
>of reviews here - we all experience a wide range of CDs, and if I'd
>known of this one in time I'd not have bought it. Given most users here are
>PC people rather than Mac people, surely there's still sufficient overlap
>for a regular report of current CDs to be of value?

I agree that this would be a good idea...

	-=Alan
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: GLO92420@ACUVAX.BITNET (The Romster)
Subject: Toshiba 330B, CorelSCSI & OS/2
Reply-To: The Romster <GLO92420@ACUVAX.bitnet>
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 04:08:00 GMT

I have the CorelDraw BlockBuster Package (Toshiba 330B CD-ROM Drive, 8bit Corel
SCSI board) and I have not been able to get CDROM.SYS to recognise the drive.
Am I using the correct driver?  On bootup the computer says that a CD-ROM drive
cannot be detected, so it is trying to use the line DEVICE=C:\OS2\CDROM.SYS.
Are there any switches I can pass to the driver?  Where can I find help
about this driver?  Am I using the correct driver?(I used the IFS driver, not
the IBM one).

Thanks.

Gaylan Ohlhausen
GLO92420@ACUVAX - BITNET
GLO92420@ACUVAX.ACU.EDU - Internet
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: wity@IASTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: FOR SALE: CD-ROM (for PC) & ProAudio Board...
Reply-To: wity@IASTATE.EDU
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 09:46:08 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.202827.10576@lester.appstate.edu>, jvs@lester.appstate.edu
(John V. Scalco) writes:
> 	hello, a friend of mine is selling the following equipment:
> 
> 	==============================================================
> 	* Sony Laser Library (sony cdu 7205 external CD-ROM Drive
> 		(340ms , 150 Kbs ); Interface, w/5 CD-ROMS
> 
> 	* Proaudio spectrum Plus (with software)  [board for PC ]
> 		( with software -Kings Quest) 
> 
> 		Both have hardly been used 
> 
> 	Will Sell Both for: $850.00
> 	==============================================================
> 	  mail me here, and I will pass it to my friend.
> 
> 	  include phone number, and he will call you..
> 
> 	thanks,
> 			sincerly,
> 				  john v. scalco


I have seen Sony Laser Library (CDU 7205) selling for $500 (NEW).
And Pro Audio Spectrum Plus is about $200 (NEW).
Btw, if one wants to use a CDROM, better get Pro Audio Spectrum 16,
which is about $230.

Actually, I don't want to post this, but the price your friend ask
is TOO HIGH.  I have seen many sale postings that asked prices
as high as buying the new one, but this is really too much.  8-)


-wity- 


Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: LIBF17@BSUVM.UCS.BSU.EDU (Bradley Faust)
Subject: Menus for CBIS
Reply-To: Bradley Faust <LIBF17@BSUVM.UCS.BSU.EDU>
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:18:42 GMT

We are in the process of installing a CBIS CD-ROM LAN using IBM PS/2
XP 486 file and CD servers.  We were planning to use SABER menu
software to build a patron frontend for the system.  Between the
time we ordered software from SABER and now, the pricing and licensing
requirements have changed.  Therefore, we are looking at other
options for front end menus.  I have heard from a source that packages
like AUTOMENU, HARDDISK MENU, and NETWARE MENU may be viable alternatives.

Is anyone using these or other packages to build menus?  Are sites happy
with SABER?  Are sites happy with the above packages?

I just subscribed and apologize if this topic has been discussed recently.
From: dl1@ukc.ac.uk (D.Langford)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Garbo CD ROM for Mac: HELP!
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:56:07 GMT
Reply-To: dl1@ukc.ac.uk (Duncan Langford)
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.


This CD-ROM has to be one of the worst I've seen... the way to get files
from it onto your Mac is to use Apple File Exchange (which comes with all
Macs) set to MacBinary and Mac-to-Mac. This works, doesn't involve getting
any additonal converters and is - fairly - straightforward.

Why the purple blazes the rip-off merchants who put this thing together
didn't include an uncompressed decoding application or two on the hundreds
of spare megabytes of space.. or, hey, uncompress the files /themselves/,
thus avoiding people duplicating the decompression process, or, like several
of the posters here, getting totally stuck.

Would it be too much to ask why the vendors didn't include instructions?

This you-can-do-without-it CD-ROM encourages me to suggest a FAQ
of reviews here - we all experience a wide range of CDs, and if I'd
known of this one in time I'd not have bought it. Given most users here are
PC people rather than Mac people, surely there's still sufficient overlap
for a regular report of current CDs to be of value?

Anyone agree? Or feel like putting something together?

- duncan
From: che238n@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Re: A line I couldn't understand
Date: 29 Jul 92 11:41:32 +1000
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

In article <Bs2u0s.AMq@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, bmetcalf@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Metcalf) writes:

> In an episode of Blackadder II, I can't remember which one,
   Actually Blackadder the Third, Scene and Senility

                                                              two actors are
> teaching George how to stand.  They say, "This stance says, 'I am a man of
> power.'"  (Or something to that effect) And Edmund says "Either that or 'Here
> are my genitals.... something something.'"  The laugh track obliterated it.
> Can anyone else decypher it?  I'm sure it's terribly funny and I want to know.
> 
> 				Brent, the curious.

"... please take them" I think.

Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
From: patty@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (Patty Haley)
Subject: what's Hugh Laurie up to these days?
Organization: Johns Hopkins Univ. Welch Medical Library
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 03:27:35 GMT

Today is my first day of subscribing to this newsgroup, so
I don't know if anything like this has been posted before.

I have been a Hugh Laurie fan for a while now, and I was 
wondering what he has been doing lately.  I know that he
and Stephen Fry have been doing more episodes of Jeeves
and Wooster, but has he been appearing on the West End
or on another television show?

Also, did anyone see him in Gasping, that Ben Elton play
about designer air?  I was over there when the play was 
running a couple of years ago, and I never got to see it.
Wasn't he also in another Ben Elton play not too long 
after that--don't remember the title.