HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex)
Subject: Policeman vs soldier
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 01:39:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.191251.20151@leela.cs.orst.edu> chrisda@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (David Christensen) writes:

>When we have to DRAFT young men to be policemen and firemen for 2 or 3 year
>stints, bury them by the tens of thousands, send them to do their work in a
>strange land of hostile or indifferent people, and when our own country is
>agonizingly divided over the morality and wisdom of fighting fires and catching
>thugs... well, then I'd accept the analogy, I guess.

	What, didn't you see the films of Los Angeles this summer?

-- 
                               Alex Crain::UMBC Academic Computing Services
The feminist agenda is a socialist, anti-family political movement that 
encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice 
witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. - Pat Robertson 1992
Xref: sparky alt.rush-limbaugh:4827 talk.abortion:36500
From: eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Abortion rights and responsibilities
Date: 15 Sep 92 02:43:47 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rush-limbaugh
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

cj@sgi.com (C J Silverio) writes:
:eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:
:|Just a thought (it's after midnight for this post). Usually when one is
:|accorded rights, one is also accorded responsibilities with which one
:|should use these rights. For example, no slander/libel when invoking
:|"free speech," or shooting innocents when owning a gun, and so on. As
:|the signs from pro-choicers/pro-abortionists say "Abortion rights NOW!"
:|I am wondering what responsibilities are accorded to this
:|constitutionally protected (according to the Supreme Court) right.
:
:The same responsibilities (whatever those are) "accorded to" 
:[sic] any elective surgery.  Duh.

Fine. I don't have my dictionary tonight. :)
Oh, are you considering abortion as "elective" surgery? And do federal
programs fund elective surgery? Will Clinton's health plan cover
elective surgery? 
-- 
Emil Thomas Chuck (Duke BME '93)		eyc@acpub.duke.edu
I'm too busy for my class, too busy for my clubs, too busy for my work.
I'm too busy for my mail, too busy for my news, too busy for my calls.
I'm too busy for this .sig. 
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle)
Subject: Re: SC rally: "We don't want a draft dodger for president!"
Organization: Psych Department, Indiana University
Distribution: world,local
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:56:08 GMT

titmas@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Eric Titmas) writes:
>nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle) writes:
>|> rovero@oc.nps.navy.mil (Josh Rovero) writes:
>|> >Clinton has been preparing for and running for president since he was 18.
 
>|>     Can somebody clue me in about why it's supposed to be a bad thing that 
>|> Clinton knew what he wanted to do since he was 18? I've known what I wanted 
>|> to do since I was 16, and I think it helped me to make the sacrifices it 
>|> took to get where I wanted. 
>|> 
>|>     I'd hate to think that having a long-term career objective would count 
>|> against *me* in a job interview somewhere, especially if that objective was 
>|> to get the exact job that I was interviewing for...
 
>The founders of this country had the goal of citizen-politicians.  Ordinary
>citizens would volunteer a small number of years in public service.

    That sounds like a nice idyllic situation. It might have worked in 1776, 
but I doubt that we'll see anything like that in the near future.

>The idea of career politicians (Clinton has never held a private-sector job)
>was offensive to them.

>Something about: before you make rules about how people are required to behave
>you should have some experience living under these rules.

    Hmmm, is it possible to experience living under a rule *before* it's 
been made? That's a good trick.

--
Nathan Engle                        Software Juggler
Psychology Department               Indiana University
nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu      nengle@copper.ucs.indiana.edu
Xref: sparky alt.rush-limbaugh:4501 alt.politics.clinton:4732 alt.news-media:1206
From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton,alt.news-media
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 11:06:38 CDT
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS (Public Access Usenet for New Orleans)

jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer) writes:

> larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way) writes:
> 
> >In article <1992Sep9.153704.19033@afit.af.mil> jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Sw
> >   Does an anti-Quayle bias come through loud and clear on this one?  If
> >   they had given him the benefit of the doubt, they could have researched
> >   it a little more.  But since they are so quick to criticize him, they
> >   look a little foolish themselves.
> 
> >Does another Whinin' Right non-issue come through loud and clear here or
> >what? Poor, poor Danny Quayle. He can't even gloat correctly, huh? Spare me.
> 
> Nobody sounds more like a whiner than the person who, when he makes a 
> mistake, has to quickly point his finger at someone else and accuse
> him of the same.  (Not directed at Clinton, just some of his followers).
> 
> >Quayle was the one so quick to try to capitalize on this little slip of
> >Clinton's tongue. And a brilliant response it was. And such a relevant
> >issue, eh?
> 
> It doesn't get any better than this.  I again propose the "e" test for
> any future posts you may have.  Before you post it, think about the fuss
> the Democrats and the media made of Quayle mispelling a word.  Think
> back to how that "non-issue" was brought up by almost every Democratic
> speaker at the convention, and then ask yourself if your post will make
> you look as foolish.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Chip Switzer                            "A witty saying proves nothing." 
> jswitzer@afit.af.mil                              -- Voltaire 

Being an ardent fan of Dano, I can't help but let this one go by.  
Face it, the guy comes off as a functionally illiterate spoiled rich kid 
who has no clue off of the golf course.  Calling those folks in the South 
Pacific 'happy campers,' is one of my all-time favorites.  There's a 
difference between someone on the net posting spelling errors and such 
and the Vice President doing it.  I don't want a functional illiterate 
that close to the Oval Office, especially given GHWB's failing health.



>Edward J. Branley         elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us<
>Seashell Software, Metairie, LA            +1-504-455-5087<
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer)
Subject: Re: think for yourself.
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 14:02:28 GMT

<RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> writes:

[examples deleted]

>the point of these two examples is this: when something is beneficial to the
>conservative viewpoint, rush talks and talks and talks.  when the exact same
>thing is not beneficial to the conservative viewpoint, rush ignores it.

>whether you're conservative, liberal, or whatever, if you listen to rush
>limbaugh, please pick up on things like this.  a person who only spouts facts
>when they help his opinion, and ignores the same facts when they disrupt his
>opinion, is not a person to be believed.


Are you implying that Rush's show is conservatively biased?!  I'm
sorry, but I can't accept this meager annecdotal "evidence" as proof of
that.  You just want everything to be liberally biased.  What a whiner.

Hopefully, that sounded both humorous AND familiar...

-- 

Chip Switzer                            "A witty saying proves nothing." 
jswitzer@afit.af.mil                              -- Voltaire 
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From: steve@celia.UUCP (Steve Tyree)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton,alt.news-media
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:49:32 GMT
Reply-To: celia!steve@usc.edu (Steve Tyree)
Organization: Rhythm & Hues, Inc., Hollywood

In article <1992Sep9.215129.9101@news.columbia.edu> egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:
->You know, there was a little discussion in sci.military not too long
->ago that suggested that you could build basement cruisemissiles
->with, say, a small airplane with lots of bombs, a GPS, and some
->electronics to hook said GPS to the flight controls.  Really
->funny about that internal sophistication, you know.
->
->On the other hand, a ballistic missile defense, even one as first-generation
->as the Patriot, is analogous to hitting a bullet with a bullet.  You can
->try that in your backyard, if you like.  Just get a friend to come along.
->Kevlar vests are optional.

 Compare the cost of 1 cruise missile to 1 patriot missile.
Actually I was trying to be funny with the statist comparison.
I obviously missed the mark.

 Steve Tyree - These opinions are mine and mine alone.
From: limpach@elvis.CWRU.Edu (Pat Limpach)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: TV station list so far
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:29:54 GMT
Reply-To: limpach@po.CWRU.Edu
Organization: Information Network Services, Case Western Reserve
NNTP-Posting-Host: elvis.ins.cwru.edu


In article <1992Sep14.222611.2235@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>, cessna@kn5f.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark Taylor Evert) writes:
$ In article <1992Sep13.191133.42953@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> 
$ attebery@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
$ > Please send any updates, changes, etc. to

  OH  Cleveland    WKYC     3   NBC   M-F   1:30-2 AM

-----
-- 
Patrick Limpach      .      .      "I like to have a machine named elvis on 
CWRUnet Network Engineer    .      my network.  That way, when I ping it, it
216-368-2982   pjl4@po.cwru.edu    comes back with 'elvis is alive'  " -?
limpach@po.cwru.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer)
Subject: Re: A journalist speaks on media bias
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:23:28 GMT

cdm@pmafire.inel.gov (Dale Cook) writes:

>Pardon me, but if I hear any more snivelling from "conservatives" about
>the so-called "liberal bias" of the media, I think I'll have to puke.  

>A true conservative would recognize the fact that the media are operating 
>in the free market, and quit whining about how that market has shaken out.
>After all, you're free to start your own paper, radio station, etc., where
>you can spout your own brand of bias.  Because, in the final analysis, 
>that's exactly what the whiners want - something with a conservative bias.
>What makes one bias any more "right" than another?

Have you even read any of these discussions?  Nobody has said anything 
about wanting a conservatively biased news media.  Bias is bias.  Either
keep up with the discussion or take your belly-aching someplace where
people want to hear it--that is, unless you like making a fool of
yourself...

-- 

Chip Switzer                            "A witty saying proves nothing." 
jswitzer@afit.af.mil                              -- Voltaire 
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From: steve@celia.UUCP (Steve Tyree)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Date: 12 Sep 92 00:32:33 GMT
Reply-To: celia!steve@usc.edu (Steve Tyree)
Organization: Rhythm & Hues, Inc., Hollywood

In article <6240@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil> jxxl@cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke) writes:
->celia!steve@usc.edu (Steve Tyree) writes:
-># In article <6227@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil> jxxl@cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke) writes:
-># ->  For a conservative, that's a very liberal capitalization of "liberal."
-># ->  Who is Democrates, some Greek philosopher?
-># ->  Don't forget to put an apostrophe in your contractions.
-># ->  Your penultimate word was a gaffe.
-># ->  Don't end a sentence with a preposition, especially when you want an adverb.
-># 
->#  Thank you. I have been wondering how long it would take for someone to notice
-># this. And I will continue to do it. I learned how to tweak elitist from RUSH 
-># and Danny Boy.
->
->Well, doesn't that take the cake? We're supposed to dumb-down now to avoid
->being considered elitist by Rush's numbskull army. Thank you for confirming
->that Rush's appeal is to the lowest common denominator.

 It looks like some people need everything spelled out for them.
 I knew those where mistakes. Democrates is obvious. Only an Elitist
would bother to point them out. You have just identified yourself as 
one. Thats why I typed it the way it was. Remember Rush -
 "Sometimes you have to show absurdity by being absurd"
 Yes I will continue to NOT correct my typos and might even use that
extra e every now and than.
 By the way, do you "elightened" quayle bashers realiase that Dan usually
reads from a speech. Is it not possible that he said it the way the speech
writers intended him to say it. Why on earth would they ever do that ?
 "Born Free as Free as the Grass Grows....."
 Do I need to spell this one out or have you got it yet ?

 Steve Tyree - These opinions are mine and mine alone.
          ps - Heres some help. Remember the Washington Post.
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush
From: alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex)
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up!  Quayle follows!
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:11:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.120715.16501@afit.af.mil>, jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer) writes:

|> In a startling change of events this morning, my newspaper actually
|> had a (short) paragraph on a recent Clinton faux pas.  
|> 
|> Seems at a campaign stop he railed on the big spending we were doing
|> on military weapons systems and brought up the Patriot which "can fly
|> through doors and down chimineys."  Hmmmm.  Probably just an honest
|> mistake from somebody who doesn't know a good offense from a bad
|> defense...

	I thought it was gracious of Quayle to follow the mistake with
his own gaffe, though, don't you? Quayle critisized Clinton and suggested
that Clinton wanted to say "Cruise missles". Probably just an honest
mistake from a soon to be unemployed VP.

-- 
                               Alex Crain::UMBC Academic Computing Services
The feminist agenda is a socialist, anti-family political movement that 
encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice 
witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. - Pat Robertson 1992
Xref: sparky alt.rush-limbaugh:4725 alt.news-media:1293 alt.fan.dan-quayle:3665
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.news-media,alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
From: kmitche@eis.calstate.edu (Kenneth Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 02:37:34 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz  Anthony 'the Bard' Hobbs at Wellington writes:
 
In article <1992Sep14.121218.19645@anomaly.sbs.risc.net>,
kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan) writes:
 
>>Oh, Quayle has done some stupid things while in office. But, so has just
>>about every President - Ford falling down all the time, Carter telling us
>>how he spent evenings discussing world politics with Amy for her opinions,
 
>Discussing things with your wife is stupid, then? So much for Family
>Values (tm).

Actually, Amy was Jimmy Carter's 11 year-old daughter. Rosalyn Carter was
the First Lady. 

Y'know, I hold no particular love for George Bush, and Dan Qauyle doesn't
impress me much either. But however bad they are, compared to their
competition, they look positively brilliant.  Clinton has structured his
ENTIRE LIFE toward being President; it's the only thing in the WORLD that
he really belives in. Al Gore is an eco-freak who spouts bad science, and
has, according to the New Republic magazine (a strongly liberal,
pro-Clinton rag!) stated that the media should censor scientist who
disagree with his apocalyptic predictions of catastrophe, because by the
time we learn the truth, it would be too late to do anything about it. 

And as scary as "President Quayle" sounds (and I'll agree, I'm not
particularly comfortable with that), Mike Deignan has a point; "Justice
Cuomo" is a LOT scarier. And while we could get rid of Quayle at the next
election, we'd be stuck with Cuomo for LIFE.

Ken Mitchell
kmitche@eis.calstate.edu

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From: dks@MIT.EDU (dks)
Subject: Why Cuomo scares people more than Dannikins does...
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 18:07:56 EST
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kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan) writes:
>
> > Did you forget that he is a heartbeat away from being your President?
>
> Yeah, but I keep hearing this little voice in the back of my head saying
> "Justice Cuomo.... Justice Cuomo...." and, compared to "President Quayle"
> its alot scarier.

Yes, intelligence *can* be intimidating.  But if you just
concentrate on your navel, the scary thoughts will all go away.


Dhanesh

  Vote Baker-Bush/Omphalos in 1992:  Belly buttons, not nuclear buttons!
From: jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: At last, a conservative comic strip!
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:49:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <6208@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil> jxxl@cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke) writes:
>jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer) writes:
>
># And was it a "slip of the tongue" that Clinton claimed Reagan and Lincoln
># were never in the military? Is it a "slip of the tongue" that a prepared
># speech that Clinton read repeatedly to learn, and which went through who knows
># how many handlers during its preparation, has such an error? If he makes
># errors of fact such as these, which are trivial to check, how many errors
># is he making in his policy statements, his economic plan, etc. etc.? 
>
>Considerably fewer than Bush.

Even if this were true, it's only because Clinton hasn't had the opportunity.
How about some specifics for your blanket statement of condemnation or are
specifics something that Clinton is incapable of as well?


-- 
John Switzer               | 50 years from now, nobody will
                           | remember Candice Bergen or Murphy
74076.1250@Compuserve.com  | Brown, but every school kid will
jrs@netcom.com             | be taught about President Quayle.
From: steve@celia.UUCP (Steve Tyree)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Never EVER thinky-poo for de headhurtz
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:24:02 GMT
Reply-To: celia!steve@usc.edu (Steve Tyree)
Organization: Rhythm & Hues, Inc., Hollywood

In article <9209121826.AA23628@MIT.EDU> dks@MIT.EDU (dks) writes:
>Iggly-pip, manakahawahaehauea booty wiggizooms.  Foo thuradanay, wagga-wagga
>root-rooty zimba-kem: toro'el, mi saggin' bursitis, NOT!  And all zippy de'ol
>banana boat jes floatin' along, never EVER thinky-poo for de headhurtz.  But,
>zinkum tinkle, Onan the Barbarian iff polly-wolly-doodle all the day.  In
>corroborree wolly'woo, euno, manna Dannikins weenie toots!

 Ok, perhaps I need to explain why I took offense to the poster who attempted
to highlight what where obvious mistakes. It was the way he did it. I have re-
ceived MAIL showing my mistakes 2 times since I have entered the fray here.
I accepted these at face value and thanked the poster. You however, are either
incapable of sending personal mail, or had to stoop to literary attacks in the
full view of all your peers. This must have been done to compensate for the 
usual liberal inferiority complex.
 In the numerous debates I have entered, my opponents have used the worst gram-
mer I have ever seen. I lost count of all their misspelled words. Not once have
I ever ridiculed them for this. Do you wonder why ? Its due to the fact that
I have worked in the ethnically diverse city of LA since 1985. Many of the 
100's of people I had to communicate with, were recent immigrants. For them,
English was a second language at best. I went out of my way to carefully lis-
ten to their improper use of English. Never did I ever make fun of it. Why do
you assume that everyone on this net knows english ? I learned it, but have
since learned many other languages and now feel that english is a rather
immature language at best. So I say to all you people who are being intima-
dated by these Elitist, dont worry about them. They spent all their time
learning how to speak, not how to think. Dont let your Freedom of Speech
right be treaded upon. Speak freely. I will never make fun of you. If I do
find major errors, I will use personal mail.
The above poster is an example of a post which should receive personal mail.
Thanks for the opportunity to respond.

>Go ahead, spell it out -- just to show us you can, that is.

 Not a chance pal. The balls in your court. Swing or leave.

 Steve Tyree - These opinions are mine and mine alone.
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From: jxxl@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:37:09 GMT
Reply-To: jxxl@cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes:

# >   On a good day, Dan Quayle is a complete dunderhead.  On a bad day,
# >   someone should get him a CAT scan and look for brain lesions.  Why
# >   are conservatives so attracted to him.
# 
# If he's such an idiot, then why do you waste your breath condemning
# the man?

Speaking only for myself, I'm using the breath I save by not running
five miles every day. It's the Insult-Quayle-to-a-Slimmer-You Diet.

# Get on with life and do something useful.

Yes, but ALL DAY?

# >3. By the way, being a glutton for punishment, I've been watching
# >   Quayle quite a bit on CSPAN.  Anyone else notice he's developed a
# >   real penchant for bizarre hand gestures?  He's beginning to look
# >   like Madonna in the 'Vogue' video.
# 
# Ditto. Give it a rest with the Quayle-bashing. No man or woman
# deserves the hell he's gone through for the past four years. If he's
# not your favorite person, fine, but this nit-picking (look at his
# hand-gestures now...geez, what a dweeb) is ridiculous.

Has anyone ever noticed the swirling patterns in Quayle's ear hair? It
makes the side of his head look like a dangerous whirlpool.

John
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