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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 10:55:18 SST
Reply-To:     Richard Pennell <HISCRP@NUSVM.BITNET>
From:         Richard Pennell <HISCRP@NUSVM.BITNET>
Subject:      BOOKS FOR SALE

I have just received a book catalogue from an antiquarian (i.e. old
but expensive books) in Britain. Howes Bookshop Trinity Hall
Braybrooke Terrace, Hastings E.Sussex, TN34 1HQ Britain.
FAX 44- 424- 460620. If you want to order quote catalogue 255 "GENOA"
It includes the following books which may interest some of you;

no 821 Pocock, Richard. MEMORIALS OF THE FAMILY OF TUFTON, EARLS OF
THANET, Gravesend, privatlely printed, 1800  -  75 pounds

no 770 Berry, William, COUNTY GENEALOGIES: PEDIGREES OF THE COUNTY
OF KENT, 1830, 300 pounds

no 753 Woodd, Henry, GENEALOGICAL, HERALDIC AND OTHER RECORDS, WITH
TABLES OF THE FOUNDER'S KIN, OF THE FAMILY OF WOOD, privately printed
1886, a snip at 95 pounds

no 720 Turner, Samuel,  TURNER GENEALOGY, privately printed 1884,
120 pounds

no 500, Mark, John, GENEALOGY OF THE FAMILY OF MARK OR MARKE, CUMBERLAND
Privately printed 1898 a mere 48 pounds

I am not assocaited with Howes in any way, and do not get a commission
(a pity, given the prices!). They are a respectable outfit though.
I can't imagine anyone actually PAYING these prices (interestingly
their non-genealogy books are more reasonably priced) but I'm posting
this for the record.
Richard Pennell
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:20:18 -0400
Reply-To:     Robert Thomin <durango@TSO.UC.EDU>
From:         Robert Thomin <durango@TSO.UC.EDU>
Subject:      ships
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Hello!!
I will give you the information that I have on researching the ships
our ancestors came over on.I have contacted the Peabody Museum in Salem
Mass. and they were very helpful.If your ancestors came over in the early
1800's the ship was probably a sailing ship.If you call them they will
look up the information and send you a letter out in about a week.They
are very prompt in everything they tell you or do.They sent me images
of the ship that I was interested in so I could order prints.
Their address is.
                            Peabody Museum
                            East India Square
                            Salem,Mass. 01970
                            (508)745-1876
                         fax(508)744-6776

Other museums are:
                            Mariners'Museum Library
                            Newport News,Va. 23606
                            (804)595-0368

                            Mystic Seaport Museum
                            Blunt White Library
                            Mystic,Ct. 06355
                            (203)572-0711

                            University of Baltimore
                            Langsdale Library
                            Steamship Historical Society of America
                            1420 N. Charles Street
                            Baltimore,Maryland 21201-5779
                            (410)625-3134
Several books that show a lot of ships and information:
                            "They Came in Ships"
                             Author:John P. Colletta

                             "Ships of Our Ancestors"
                              Author:Michael J. Anuta
Also you could call the National Archives in Washington,DC.
                            Fax:(202) 523-3049
                                (202) 523-4357

I believe if you try these,I think you will be amazed at the information
you will recieve.
durango@tso.uc.edu
Robert Thomin
From: cmackay@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Carol MacKay)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: grandma's oxydol commerical
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 12:41:16 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Here's a tricky one that I've been working on for years...My grandmother, 
Ella Simonsen (Simpson) of Cambridge, Maryland, once submitted a 
testimonial to Proctor & Gamble Re: Oxydol.  They used the testimonial in 
a radio commercial which aired in the program "Ma Perkins" in 1943 or 
1944.  I contacted Proctor & Gamble, who referred me to The Center for 
Theatre Research in Madison, WI, who referred me to the State Historical 
Society of Wisconsin, who referred me to the Museum of Broadcasting in 
New York, who, in turn referred me to Radio Yesteryear and SPERDVAC.  The 
last two organizations have not responded to my query.  Might anyone have 
any idea where I could locate the script or a tape of the commercial?  
It's a long, long shot, I know, but it would make a dandy addition to my 
genealogical file on a family that has been hard to trace.  In the 
testimonial real names were used including grandma's next door neighbour, 
who apparently had dingy wash!!  Thanks all.

Carol MacKay              cmackay@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
Edmonton Remote Systems:  Celebrating 10 years of service to Northern Alberta
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From: wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Don Wiggins)
Subject: Wall Chart
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:42:18 GMT

Thanks to all who sent me information on this subject.  A couple of people
told me about a program called pafp21 on hallc1.  I downloaded it
last evening and it seems to do exactly what I wanted.  I haven't actually
printed anything with it yet, since the program indicated it would print 
65 pages (!) for my whole database, but I'll give it a try one of these days.

I understand that there are many other programs available at the same site,
so for the benefit of those who might be interested, you should do an
anonymous ftp to hallc1.cebaf.gov.  The file that I mentioned above (listed
as pafp21.zip, of course) is in /genealogy/paf.

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 |Fisher, IL  61843-9440              |       BIRKHIMER, MCINTIRE,      |
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From: MARLEYT@ARIZVMS.BITNET
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: help!!!!
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:37:00 GMT
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someone gave me copy of family tree 2.0. i dont have a manual.i want to be able
   to mierge
files and dont know how.
could someone email me direction on how to go about this.



Email Marleyt@ccit.arizona.edu
Snail mail
MArley Treadwell
8550 E old spanish trail #224
Tucson Arizona 85710
Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: stauffer@src.honeywell.com (Don Stauffer)
Subject: Re: Scanners
To: soc.roots
Posted-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 13: 39:12 CDT
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:39:12 GMT
Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 13: 39:13 CDT

   I bought a Logitech Scanman 64.  Among other uses I intend to store old
family photographs, and in fact most of the scanning I have been doing since
I got it is these photos.
   I love it.  The 64 shades of grey version can be scanned quite rapidly,
much more so than I had been led to believe.  The results are excellent.
The picture on the screen of my VGA display is "better than TV" quality,
and could be easily photographed.
   I have not yet tried to integrate the scanned files into any document.
I do not have easy access to a laser printer.  Pictures printed out on my
24 pin dot matrix printer are very disappointing.  However, it is obvious
from the quality of the displayed picture that the fault is the printer, not
the scanner.
   So far all the photos I have scanned are old B & W.  I want to see what
happens when I scan a color print with this B & W scanner, but have not done
so yet.  BTW, the scanner was on sale, and only cost me $130.
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:20:56 -0400
Reply-To:     Peter Gough <pcgough@APLCEN.APL.JHU.EDU>
From:         Peter Gough <pcgough@APLCEN.APL.JHU.EDU>
Subject:      HELP!
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Help!  I can't unsubscribe!  I've tried 4 different ways now (even following
the directions!) and I can't stop the mail from coming in!  Please send
me as verbose a message as possible as to how I can unsubscribe.

                                 Thanks!
                                 Hilary Gough
                                 pcgough@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu
From: rdw@SCOUT.HUMBOLDT.EDU
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Subject: Thanks
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:06:00 GMT
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   I would like to thank those people who responded to my request for
 information about the WEBSTER line. I am also searching the following lines.
COCKRELL,REICH,SCONCE,HEFFINGTON,ALLEN,FIEDLER
most of my immediate ancestors are from Illinois,Kentucky,Indiana and then they
jump to Germany. I have not gotten far enough back to get to Germany yet. I will
gladly share what I have. I use gedcom files from PAF. Thanks again.

                                         Robert Webster
                                         1825 Aspen Ct.
                                         McKinleyville, Ca. 95521
                  internet address:      rdw@scout.humboldt.edu
From: John_Carson@mindlink.bc.ca (John Carson)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Introducing myself and my family details
Date: 21 Jul 92 06:27:30 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

My name is D. John Carson, livng in British Columbia, Canada.

I have been working for ten years searching my family. Doing the usual on and
off periods when I have time.

FAMILIES
========

Carson, Lamb, Lagrove, Armstrong, Good, Walker, Nichol, Symlie, Osmond,

Longman, Harvey, Mitchell, Millard, McLatchie, Campbell, Clothier, Knight,

Cooper, Tunstead, Reilly, Scatchard, Smeadley, Hudson

Have been on the group for one week and have made one good contact on a FAMILY
NAME already so I am wishing for the best here.

Branching off

John
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*                                   Surrey, BC                        *
*                                   John_Carson@mindlink.bc.ca        *
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 10:58:11 CDT
Reply-To:     Cliff Manis <cmanis@CSOFTEC.CSF.COM>
From:         Cliff Manis <cmanis@CSOFTEC.CSF.COM>
Subject:      GENEALOG & FidoNet (Genealogy Echo)
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I would appreciate a note from anyone who has requested a GENEALOG
file from the LISTSERV from a "FidoNet Node".

When did you request it ?

How long did it take to recieve it ?

Please send me a message DIRECT to:  cmanis@csoftec.csf.com

Thanks..cliff
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Cliff Manis         K4ZTF        Manis/Manes Family History
Researching: MANIS MANES WHITEHORN CANTER BIRD FRANCIS NEWMAN
USMAIL:   P. O. Box 33937, San Antonio, Texas  78265-3937
BITNET:   cmanis%csoftec.csf.com@NDSUVM1  Caretaker of GENEALOG
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From: KLS147@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Schultz: Rothenburg, Germany
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:04:44 GMT
Organization: Penn State University


 I am again looking for information about the Schultz from Rothenberg, Germany.
 My great-great grandfather John Schultz was born in Poland on the border of
Germany and that is where he lived and married a woman named Dorothy. If anyone
 has any information it would be helpful.
                                         Kerri Schultz
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:10:00 CDT
Reply-To:     Barbara Goodson <BEG@TNTECH.BITNET>
From:         Barbara Goodson <BEG@TNTECH.BITNET>
Subject:      Looking for MUSSARED in England

 Has anyone ever heard of the surname MUSSARED (pronounced moose-ard)? It
 was the middle name of Thomas Mussared Austen (my husband's grandfather),
 who emigrated from Margate,Kent,England in the early 1900's.

 Is this surname common in England?

 Barbara Goodson
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From: abreu@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Abreu)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Brazil & Portugal
Date: 25 Jul 92 19:47:33 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

In <92203.165404MXP11@psuvm.psu.edu> <MXP11@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

 > Does anybody know if there are any sites from where I can get genealogical
 > information for people from Brazil and Portugal ? Thanks for any hint.
 >                                            M. Carvalho

Try asking in soc.culture.portuguese and soc.culture.brazil
Hamilton
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 00:14:08 PDT
Reply-To:     Tom Lincoln <lincoln@IRIS.RAND.ORG>
From:         Tom Lincoln <lincoln@IRIS.RAND.ORG>
Subject:      Looking for my Jewish roots in London...
Comments: To: Roots-L@vm1.nodak.edu

On 13 May 1784 in St. George's Chapel, Hannover Square,
London.. my g.g.g.g.grandmother, Sarah Montefiore (b. 7
Apr 1763 at Whitechapel, London), the daughter of
(?Duke) David and Esther Montefiore, married George
Mitchell  (20 Aug 1750 - 17 Dec 1816), son of Rev.
Arthur Mitchell, (?b. 1719) of parish Kinellar,
Scotland, minister at Kildare, and of Barbara Forbes
(the daughter of  Sir John Forbes).

Sarah's father was a merchant in London and probably a
trade representative to the Court of St. James. He was
a member of "the well known Montefiore family" .. but I
do not know how.

The two came to Philadelphia that same year, it is said
by the boat 'White Swan', probably a merchant ship, and
went west to Pittsburgh, where their first child was
born on Jun  6 1785. In 1787 or 1788 they removed to
western Virginia, and by 1791 they had come to
Washington KY near Maysville, where their fifth child,
(Capt.) John Fowler Mitchell (29 Aug 1791 - 20 or 27
Aug 1868), was born in Simon Kenton's and Daniel
Boone's Fort.... a long way from London... but I'm glad
they came!

Does anyone know of a genealogy of the English branch
of the Montefiore family? Where would I best look...
I would certainly also like to know how we might be
related to  Sir Moses Haim Montefiore, bart.(1784-1885)
and lady Judith Cohen Montefiore (d. 1862).

Thanks in advance....

Tom
From: cmanis@CSOFTEC.CSF.COM (Cliff Manis)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Info about SHIPS ? ?
Date: 26 Jul 92 14:31:41 GMT
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I would appreciate any info, even the smallest bit on either of
these two ships, which came to the US in the early 1800's.


Their names:   Ship "PATIENCE" and Ship "HARLE"


I think they might have landed either in PA or MA.

Thanks for any help or directions.

Good Luck... Cliff
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From: pkss@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (philip.k.sikora)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: 1920 census search help
Keywords: help
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:34:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T


Hey,
Is anyone going to access the 1920 census soon & willing to look up what's
turning out to be a more-obscure name (Hendershaw) for me?  I've never tried
this nor do I know what information you can get from this or how big a hassle a
request like this is.  I figured this is the next step for me but won't be able
to go for another 2 or so months so I figured if someone's going sooner & it
isn't a big deal...

pks@neptune.att.com
201-386-6720
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 16:30:21 PDT
Reply-To:     Tom Lincoln <lincoln@IRIS.RAND.ORG>
From:         Tom Lincoln <lincoln@IRIS.RAND.ORG>
Subject:      Bulletin de la Circle de Genealogie Juive
Comments: To: Roots-L@vm1.nodak.edu

I now know that there is an extensive study of the family of Sir
Moses Montefiore in issue no. 12 of the above Bulletin 1987/1988...

but melvyl says "not here!"

Could some kind person copy it for me against the usual compensation?

Thanks in advance

Tom Lincoln
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:15:03 EDT
Reply-To:     "Brian Abernathy" <cba@EWS002B.ATL.HP.COM>
From:         "Brian Abernathy" <cba@EWS002B.ATL.HP.COM>
Subject:      Searching for ABERNATHY
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I am a neophyte to ROOTS-L, and have begun researching my family:
ABERNATHY  (Currently the only branch I am looking for, but will be
extending later).

These locations in particular:

GA, NC, SC, TN, VA & Scotland

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 02:27:54 EDT
Reply-To:     David_L._Carson@MTS.RPI.EDU
From:         David_L._Carson@MTS.RPI.EDU
Subject:      INDEX TO PA ARCHIVES MARRIAGES TO 1810
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NODAK.EDU

Hi All,

Anyone ever heard of someone putting together an index to "PA
Marriages Prior to 1810?"  This section lies in the Second Series of
the Archives, Vols 8&9.

It seems to me I heard of someone in the western US doing something
like tha.

Thanks!

David L. Carson, USERGP45@RPITS MTS
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:35:17 EDT
Reply-To:     john <JAREA@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
From:         john <JAREA@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      TT dates

For many of us use of Tiny Tafels is not possible, since they require the
specification of date of birth of the first known person in the line, and
commonly this date can only be approximated, or sometimes is completely
unknown.
     In addition to the punctuation marks available (* : etc.) it would
have been handy to have one indicating one is interested in all descendants
of a given immigrant, rather than being limited to interest in the forbears
of the earliest known in a line and the descendants of the most recent known
in that line.
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 09:33:23 -0700
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From:         WEILAND@UPS.EDU
Subject:      Answers
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

I really enjoy reading the answers to questions asked by our roots-l
group.  One thing kind of bugs me, tho.

Most of the time when people send answers to questions from other rooters,
they seem to find it necessary to copy the entire original message.  This
gets quite boring after 5 or 10 persons answer the same question.

The reply to the Scanner question was very nice.  One line of the origina
message, then the reply.  It was enough to remind me of what the original
message was about.

Sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings, but I receive anywhere from 15 to 30
messages on this BB per day, and I find myself deleting some replys due
to the copies of original messages.

I am sure the function on your editor that allows you to copy text and
then insert your comments/answers is really fun, but please, save us the
monotony of reading the same questions over and over.


Thanks

Larry
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:59:54 -0500
Reply-To:     Nicole James 203 <NLJ6186@VENUS.TAMU.EDU>
From:         Nicole James 203 <NLJ6186@VENUS.TAMU.EDU>
Subject:      Last name Brasfield
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@Vm1.NoDak.Edu

Dear Subscribers,
   I need your help.  My mother's maiden name is Brasfield and I am trying
to find some other Brasfields.  The only ones that I am aware of are those
here in the Texas area.  The last I heard, there were supposed to be some
Brasfields in North Carolina, Virginia, Illinois(Chicago), and Arkansas.
The name might also be spelled Brassfield.  Also looking for information on
Elvy James or Boyd James.
   If you have any information, my address is:NLJ6186@tamvenus(Bitnet)or
NLJ6186@venus.tamu.edu.

Thanks.
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From: wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Don Wiggins)
Subject: Wall Chart
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:46:29 GMT

Has anyone ever seen a program that will allow you to print a wall
chart of _everyone_ in your DOS version PAF database?  A few months ago
I found one that the author stated was pretty buggy, but that it was
just a first cut.  I couldn't get it to run at all.
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 |Fisher, IL  61843-9440              |       BIRKHIMER, MCINTIRE,      |
 |email:  wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu |       PARK(E), CHANCE, MUNRO....|
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 08:37:55 CDT
Reply-To:     "Esther Williams, PhD" <EAW@VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
From:         "Esther Williams, PhD" <EAW@VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      Socrates HINES (HINDS)

I am asking if anyone knows of the parents of Socrates HINES or HINDS, born
August 1, 1815, in Wayne Co., KY, and died March 1, 1880, in Caldwell Co.,
MO.  He married Jane W. HENNINGER, born Jan. 1, 1813, and died March 16,
1877, in Caldwell Co., MO.

Their son was James Socrates HINES, born 1849, who married David Lenora
SAUNDERS, born 1853.  (David Lenora Saunders is a woman.)  James Socrates
Hines was on the commission that revised the Kentucky constitution in
1891 as a delegate of Wayne County.

I will appreciate knowing the information if you know whom the parents
of Socrates might have been.  Thank you.

Esther Williams
University of Illinois
eaw@uiucvmd.bitnet  or  ewilliams@uiuc.edu  or  ewilliam@s.psych.uiuc.edu
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