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From: thompson@PAN.SSEC.HONEYWELL.COM ((jt) John Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: re: Striping on a DN10k...
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:41:01 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet



> I am trying to stripe two disks together on a DN10k using SR10.4.
> INVOL is giving me many headaches about this. Has anyone ...
> Basically, I choose option 1 -m (format virgin with intention to
> stripe), and it asks me which volume, so I say w (for winchester, or
> w0:0 also works). It asks me more questions, then asks me for the
> volume to add. This is where I am lost. Anything I try here says
> "Unable to locate disk" or something like that. Help!

Ok.  First off, I haven't done it at 10.4, so if there's a bug at 10.4, I may
not have any solutions.

1) Have you run the self-test (done automatically on boot, or by entering
   'TE' at the IP0> prompt if you're in service mode)?  If you _have_, record
   what controllers/drives it finds.  If you haven't, then run it.  After you
   have that info, do you see what you expect for 'passed' equipment?
   
2) If you don't get a drive passing when you think it's there, then make sure
   that it's hooked up right.  If you got it third party, you will need to 
   run option 7 (initialize badspot list) before you can do anything with it.
   Have you?
   
3) Have you tried invol-ing the second (third/fourth) disk without striping?
   It's not technically necessary, but I prefer to invol the drives one at a
   time, and then invol them again with striping.  That way, I get a warm fuzzy
   feeling about each drive, and I get to waste more time at work.   :-)
   
4) If you still can't get it going, please send me e-mail with the info from
   above (what disks are there, and the INVOL transcript).  Are you able to 
   boot diskless off another node?  If so, the transcripts are a lot easier
   to get, and the reboot intervals are a lot shorter....
   

-- jt --
John Thompson
Design Services Engineer / Sys-Admin
Honeywell, SSEC
Plymouth, MN  55441
thompson@pan.ssec.honeywell.com

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: hpeyerl@novatel.cuc.ab.ca (Herb Peyerl)
Subject: Re: DN10K's for sale
Organization: "NovAtel Communications Ltd."
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:51:29 GMT

System Admin (Mike Peterson) (system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca) wrote:
: In article <1992Aug18.182535.29959@tc.cornell.edu> hurf@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Hurf Sheldon) writes:
: >	                          I know it would take an HP750
: >	or an RS6000/550 to replace them so maybe 40-60% of 
: >	that cost ($75k) seems like a good starting point. 
: 
: Didn't know April 1 fell in August this year :-).

Seriously, we just traded one for a 400s and the whole time felt like
at any moment somebody was gonna catch us with our hand stuck in the 
cookie jar...

Wasn't it just a few weeks ago somebody was selling one for $700 plus the
cost of shipping?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: jrhunsbe@eos.ncsu.edu (JONATHAN RO HUNSBERGER)
Subject:  tn3270 under 10.4
Originator: jrhunsbe@c00100-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jrhunsbe@eos.ncsu.edu (JONATHAN RO HUNSBERGER)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 02:37:29 GMT


Has anyone had problems with tn3270 in an xterm under 
system 10.4?

tn3270 works fine for us in 10.2, but in 10.4 there is a problem
with bold fields being shifted up 128 characters (the ASCII value
of each character is shifted up by 128)
when the cursor is moved over it.

Also, some protected fields are not presented properly on the screen
until a clear is issued.


Is anyone else having these problems?


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From: lnz@lucid.com (Leonard N. Zubkoff)
Subject: Re: dumping executable images?
Organization: Lucid, Inc.
	<1992Aug12.194910.9716@lucid.com> <MEHLHAFF.92Aug17002028@soda.soda.Berkeley.EDU>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 00:46:28 GMT

The SR10.4 and Emacs 18.58 version of my patches is now in final testing and
should be available in a few days.

		Leonard
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From: dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no (Joern Yngve Dahl-Stamnes)
Subject: restricting login on a node
Reply-To: dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no (Joern Yngve Dahl-Stamnes)
Organization: University of Trondheim, NORWAY
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 14:01:09 EDT

Hello.

I want to prevent some users to log on my Apollo workstation. How do
I do that? Is there a file that I can specify which users that are allowed
to log on a given workstation?

Please e-mail me. Thanx in advace.

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From: mannex@inference.com (Russ Mannex)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Striping on a DN10k (fixed)...
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:51:22 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Thanks to all who replied. I got it to work last night just before
leaving. I shut it down to look around inside, then powered back up,
and everything worked. Hate it when that happens =8>

Anyway, thanks for all the help.

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From: lnz@lucid.com (Leonard N. Zubkoff)
Subject: Re: dumping executable images?
Organization: Lucid, Inc.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 04:58:11 GMT

In article <HALL.92Aug18161154@leopard.cs.uidaho.edu> hall@cs.uidaho.edu (Kelly Hall) writes:
   In article <1992Aug18.004628.8904@lucid.com> lnz@lucid.com (Leonard N. Zubkoff) writes:

      The SR10.4 and Emacs 18.58 version of my patches is now in final testing and
      should be available in a few days.

		      Leonard

   Will the new version be able to cope with:
    ".rwdi section needs relocation  cannot dump Emacs"?

   I'm going slightly bonkers trying to figure this one out.  Any ideas?

   Mucho Thankos,
   Kelly

It would be nice, but I rather doubt it.  I've never been able to reproduce
this problem, alas.  However, if you try the newest version when it is released
shortly, and the problem still occurs, I'll try to take another look at it.

		Leonard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson))
Subject: Re: problem with writing large files from Fortran
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:38:35 GMT

In article <5a8e0403.1bc5b@pisa.citi.umich.edu> Antonio Hernandez <AVH@IBMA.ipp-garching.mpg.de> writes:
>All this is very strange because here in Germany I do not seem to have
>any problem with the size of the problem: Right now I am running a
>very large case that handles I/O files of 300Mb each!. Is there a
>problem with the RS.10.2.p operating system? or with the way it
>handles swapping, because the /etc/swap command do not even exist under
>RS.10.1.p operating system at the MPA machine. Is there a hardware probl

There was a problem with the VME disk controller firmware under heavy
I/O load (which your application may hit), but the result of the
problem was always a crash with status 00270005 on our system.

We have run many application like this on our DN10000 (we do molecular
structure calcs too), but don't recall a problem like that where the
system continued to operate except for the one process. There are many
ways to crash/hang your system, especially with the older versions
of Domain/OS and the original VME disk controllers and Ethernet cards.
Are you sure you aren't running out of disk space -- on the older
SR10.x.p, that would cause exactly the behaviour you are seeing: the
process would hang waiting for disk space and would not be killed.
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... and Slim just left town. -*- Mike Peterson, SysAdmin, U/Toronto Chemistry
From: philip@cel.cummins.com (Philip D. Pokorny)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: x3270 on Apollo?
Date: 20 Aug 92 22:21:40 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Steve Swamp asks:
> Has anyone got a working copy of x3270 on the apollo? I can get it
> to compile fine, but when I start it up, the window size stays fixed
> at a smaller size. I can change font sizes fine, but the window will
> not resize, even if I do it manually.
According to the README files I've got this is the correct
behavior.  There is only one font that comes with X3270 and it's
not a resizable font.  Therefore, X3270 tells the window manager
that the window is a fixed width and CANNOT be resized.  Your
X3270 is working correctly.

With that said, can you please send me you imake tree?  I
haven't had the time or energy to try and figure imake out and I
would DEARLY appreciate a working imake for the Apollo.

Thanks,


Sincerely,
Philip D. Pokorny
philip@cel.cummins.com
:)

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From: sasblc@unx.sas.com (Brad Chisholm)
Subject: High speed modem attached to 3500
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 18:17:23 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


I've been testing a v.32bis modem attached to the serial port of my 3500.
Unfortunately, for speeds above 9600 baud, I seem to be losing data.  I
understand that PC's often need an upgraded UART to handle high speeds,
but would such a thing be possible for my Apollo?  Since the Apollos have
an AT bus, could I add an internal modem that has its own UART, or would
I need a new serial driver also (I think there's a PD driver called FAS,
anyone know anything about this?)

Still living life at 9600 buad...
Brad

P.S.  What's the difference between using /dev/sio1 vs. /dev/tty01?  They
      both seem to work with kermit.




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From: wjw@ebh.eb.ele.tue.nl (Willem Jan Withagen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: search for people using PC-NFS.
Keywords: NFS, PC-NFS
Date: 20 Aug 92 09:47:41 GMT
Reply-To: wjw@eb.ele.tue.nl
Organization: Digital Systems, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands

I'm looking for sites using the combination:
	Apollo-NFS and PC NFS of any given brand.

What I want to know further is thier policy to prevent illegal accesses
(nobody in SUN terms) and if this works.

I think we've found a dangerous "feature", but I'd like to verify.

	Willem Jan


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From: lowen@lorc.UUCP (Lamar Owen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: FAQ??  Where can get...
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 92 15:42:33 EDT
Organization: LORC Enterprises

Subject says it: I'm looking for a copy of the comp.sys.apollo FAQ list.  
Where is this thing archived?  Available via e-mail?  Who had been keeping it
up?  


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From: roger@GW1.AGS.BNL.GOV (Roger A. Katz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: tcp/ip node addressing problem
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:10:58 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Sorry if this is a repeat....Having mailing problems too!...:)
	Situation.
	
	I have two ATR networks. There are two nodes which have 
two ring cards and act as the bridge/gateway. Both networks are 
using DDS network protocols. One network is also using IP and works 
fine (class 'C' network : 192.33.128). I am setting up IP on the 
second network (also a class 'C' network : 192.153.161). The nodes 
on the second network were originally on the first network, and 
therefore once had other IP addresses.
	
	Step 1.

	I have set up the tcp_admin node for the new network on one
of the bridges.  It has a new /etc/hosts file with all the new IP
addresses. 
	
	My nmconfig is set to use host_ascii.
	
	I kill all tcp related processes on the bridge.
	
	I run /etc/sys_sh /etc/rc.local on the bridge
	
	It starts fine.  It's /etc/ifconfigs look good.
	
	Step 2.
	
	On a node in the new network, i change its /etc/tcp_admin
	link to point to the bridge node i just started.
	
	I kill all tcp related processes.
	
	I run /etc/sys_sh /etc/rc.local.
	
	Everything starts.
	
	But!!!
	
	/etc/ifconfig net0 returns its old, previous network ip number!!!!!!
	
	What's going on????
	
	% /etc/sys_sh /etc/rc.local
? ->	% /etc/ifconfig net0
	dr0: flags=43<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING>
	     inet 192.33.128.38 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 192.33.128.255

	% hostname
	acn30d05
	% grep `hostname` /etc/hosts
	192.153.161.38   acn30d05.ags.bnl.gov acn30d05 11fff
	% nmconfig -l
	hosts type      hostent_ascii
	networks type   netent_ascii
	protocols type  protoent_ascii
	services type   servent_ascii
	% arp `hostname`
? ->	acn30d05 (192.33.128.38) -- no entry
	% arp 11fff
	acn35d02 (192.153.161.38) -- no entry
	% hostname 11fff
	% arp `hostname`
? ->	acn30d05 (192.33.128.38) -- no entry
	% arp acn30d05
	acn35d02 (192.153.161.38) -- no entry
	% /etc/ifconfig net0 acn30d05
	% /etc/ifconfig net0
	dr0: flags=43<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING>
	     inet 192.153.161.38 netmask ff000000 broadcast 192.153.161.255

	
	Is there something special about hostname to IP address resolution
for the 'current host' name? How can I get rid of the old IP address?
                   
Thanks in advance.

Roger

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From: chuck@edsi.plexus.COM (Chuck Tomasi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Smail 3.1.25 - Has anyone got it running?
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:04:36 GMT
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI

We're running SR 10.3.5 on our token ring.  While we've been able to get
Smail 3.1 running under Sys5.3, it has only provided us with UUCP
connections.  The time has come for us to use SMTP, but that isn't
possible unless we use SYSTYPE=bsd4.3.  I've tried compiling it, but I
always end up copying some of the sys5.3 header files or modifying
things which worries me.  Has anyone got smail 3.1 running under 10.3.x?
If so, could you e-mail me your EDITME file and any other
hints/tips/tricks you can pass along?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: rees@pisa.citi.umich.edu (Jim Rees)
Subject: Re: SLIP & SR10.3
Keywords: slip domainOS 10.3
Reply-To: Jim.Rees@umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan IFS Project
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:11:16 GMT

In article <1541@lysator.liu.se>, pen@lysator.liu.se (Peter Eriksson) writes:

  I have some slight memories of someone saying that the hardware
  flow control for the serial ports was broken under SR10.3. Is that
  so? I have had very big problems with running a SLIP link between our
  Sun 4/380 and our four old Apollo (DN300, DN550, DN560 and DN660) machines.

The sr10.2 tcp slip had some problems.  It had a fixed mtu of 1000, it
turned off hardware flow control on "ifconfig up," and, worst of all, the
sl_output routine just did a plain term_$write.  So the whole tcp process
would hang waiting for the tty to drain.  This is fatal if you're using your
Apollo as a slip gateway to your home ethernet and token ring, as I do (my
ISDN line isn't set up for ip yet).

There is nothing wrong with the tty hardware flow control (below 19.2
anyway), but you need to turn it on with tctl after you bring the interface
up.

I have fixes for these problems, and vj header compression too, but I don't
think they've been incorporated into later releases of Domain/OS.  I am
unable to redistribute these fixes outside of UM, so don't ask.
From: thompson@PAN.SSEC.HONEYWELL.COM ((jt) John Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: re: diskless apollo 400 ?
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:14:34 GMT
Organization: The Internet


. weule@mx.cs.uni-duesseldorf.de (J"org Weule) writes
> I have a new apollo 400. ... want to install SR10.4
> on the secound disk (w5:0). Is this possible to install
> the software from the tapes on the secound disk?
You should be able to load the tapes in using the RAI tools.  Just create an
'install' directory at the mount point (//w6_0/w5_0/install) of the second disk, 
and tell minst that that's your <AA> (-s //w6_0/w5_0).  You should then be able
to install from there to anywhere, including to the volume //w6_0/w5_0).  Unlike
the Suns and HP-UX machines, you can load an O/S on any volume you want.

> How can I boot from the secound disk? 
According to my handy-dandy "HP/Apollo 9000 Series 400 Domain/OS Owners Manual"
you specify an alternate boot disk as
    DI sd#:#
In your case, 'sd5:0' for scsi ID 5.  (This is on page 10-10 of the manual.)


> ...boot another mashine diskless (400 also) connected with an
> ethernet.n I configured the first mashine, so that
> ethernet is network 1 - own traffic only - all service
> allowed. I started netman and typed on the other 
>   DI E
>   EX Domain_OS
If the diskless machine has a disk drive, this won't work.  (I don't recognize
the 'E' option to DI either, but then, I use ATR mainly.)  If it doesn't have a
disk, see the next attempt's problem.

>   PNET E
>   DI N
>   EX DOMAIN_OS
> but always got a timeout.
Although //node1 is running netman, I will bet that you haven't told it to 
offer services to //node2 (the node ID actually).  It is necessary to run
netman, but unless you change the /sys/net/diskless_list file to have the
nodeIDs entered, it won't respond to the broadcast queries that //node2
is generating.  
HOWEVER, if you say 'DI N 12345' (where 12345 is the nodeID of //node1), then
you should be fine.  Netman will ALWAYS answer a direct query.  If you want/
need to prevent a machine from letting somebody boot diskless off it, then
you need to massage 'netman.rc' (a link to either netman.bin_sh or netman.com_sh)
to inspect and reject certain machines.  (This was discussed about a year(?) ago,
but I only remember generalities.)


Hope this helps....
-- jt --
John Thompson
Design Services Engineer / Sys-Admin
Honeywell, SSEC
Plymouth, MN  55441
thompson@pan.ssec.honeywell.com

What do I know?  I'm just a Token Administrator.
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From: bonnetf@APO.ESIEE.FR (Frank Bonnet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: advice on backup systems
Date: 18 Aug 92 06:33:35 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


We use here an 8mm Exabyte which is now supported at SR10.4 by all the
Domain_os commands rbak,wbak,tar ... 

We use it now since few months without troubles.

The speed is not very fast, it's about 100 Mb/hour with a normal load
on the ATR , it is connected to my DN2500 which has 12Mb of memory so
I perform backups nightly ...

We have now a 4mm DAT for our 710's but I haven't tested it at this 
time.

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From: hurf@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Hurf Sheldon)
Subject: DN10K's for sale
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:25:35 GMT


	We hava a project ending that we used 2 DN10K systems for.
	They have become the only Apollo (boo-hoo) systems we have.
	Before we redeploy them it seemed like a good idea to
	see if anyone else might want them. I have little idea
	what they might be worth. I know it would take an HP750
	or an RS6000/550 to replace them so maybe 40-60% of 
	that cost ($75k) seems like a good starting point. Would appreciate
	hearing from any legitimate interest.

	Thanks,
	Hurf


	Sytem Description: - 2 identical systems
	4CPU, 64mb, 24plane graphics, 2 700mb esdi drives, ntsc video 
	adapter, ethernet interface, 10.4 Domain and current C,
	DPAK, Fortran, C++ licences. Currently under hardware support.




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