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From: vwp@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (mark.a.skala)
Subject: Re: That new clumping litter ...
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:57:17 GMT

In article <16896B7DF.MISAXM1@kentvm.kent.edu> MISAXM1@kentvm.kent.edu writes:
>In article <4126@unisql.UUCP>
>collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce) writes:
> 
>>
>>In article <2AF5AEEC.10631@ics.uci.edu> tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore) writes:
>>>In <4110@unisql.UUCP> collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce) writes:
>>>
>>>>In article <shari.720465772@rlxdev> shari@modcomp.uucp (Shari Bernhard) writes:
>>>>>I haven't seen any of the multitude of posts mention Litter Purrfect which
>>>>>I get a COSTCO (wholesale club) for $4.59 a jug.  It's the best I've tried.
>>>
>>>>Wow!  You pay $4.59 a jug?  Is it a big jug or just one of the usual
>>>>7lb. (milk jug) varieties?
>>>
>>>Looked cheap to me.  Around here, I never see less than $10 a jug of
>>>scoopable litter, any brand.  Part of the reason I don't use the stuff.
>>
>>Ok.  I had to make sure I wasn't going crazy.  I checked the prices on
>>the stuff I buy and here it is:
>>
>>  In Austin, TX:
>>  Lasting Pride - $5.98 (22lbs) at Sam's Wholesale Club.
>>  Scoop Fresh   - $6.98 (16lbs) at the grocery store.
>>  Scoop Away    - $2.99 (7lbs) at the grocery store.
>>
>>I think those prices are reasonable and all these brands work for me
>>just fine.  I can't imagine paying $10 a jug for litter; I'd rather
>>teach Tamora to use the john.  ;-)
>>
>>I wonder what people pay for the stuff in other areas of the country?
> 
>In Fairlawn, Ohio (A suburb of Akron which is 50 miles or so south of
>Cleveland)  I pay $ 3.99 for a milk jug size (not sure how many lbs.)
>of Scoop Away, and other store brands are comparable varying no more than
>a dollar.
> 
>Toni
From: schiles@valentine.us.oracle.com (Suzanne Chiles)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Brave Missy and the Sock Monsters
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:05:32 GMT
Reply-To: schiles@us.oracle.com
Organization: Oracle Corporation
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

I should have known better.  I should have known to keep my sock drawer
tightly closed.  After all, all the socks together create so much energy
that Sock Monsters can come out and take over the house.

Yesterday, I was in a hurry to get to work, and left the drawer slightly
ajar.  I can imagine it now -- a low rumble from the sock drawer as
their collective energy began to grow -- exponentially of course. 
That's how the socks are.  One or two -- you can keep a handle on those
-- but an entire drawer full?

So there was Missy the Kitten.  Alone in the house -- only 4 months old
-- battling the savage sock monsters for the very first time.  I am so
proud of Missy the kitten.  Showing her extraordinary bravery, she sat
on top of the dresser, and PULLED OUT EACH AND EVERY SOCK!  She was
careful to scatter them about the house, thereby dissapating all the
savage sock monster energy.  What a brave and wise cat!  When I got
home, she showed me the evidence of her deeds.  Gratefully, I swept her
up into my arms, and promised her that from now on I would always make
sure the drawer was closed so she would not have to battle that savage
monster again.

Suzanne and Missy

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From: sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu (   Kate   )
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Cat Skiing (was Re: Orson thinks he's Tom Cruise)
Date: 14 Nov 92 02:05:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Seattle University

In article <1992Nov13.222838.12467@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> jeremy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (jeremy.l.radosh) writes:
>
>Does anyone else's cat play the "rug slide game"???
>
>Jeremy
>
>-- 
>  (\_/)          " Love to eat them mousies,
>  |* *|              Mousie's what I love to eat.
>  \>Y</            Bite they little heads off...
>   `U'               Nibble on they tiny feet."       B.Kliban `75

Hemingway does (Clio might but she's hardly big enough to move the
bathroom door, let alone my rugs ;) ), but what he likes even better than
rug sliding is skiing.....either on the hardwood (sometimes he just gets a
running start at the foyer hallway, puts on the brakes about 10 feet from
the door, and breaks the fall on the doormat) or on my notebooks for
school. He too fetches, down the hallway, but discovered that, when
running full tilt back with the paper ball in his mouth, he could land on
my folders and get a little thrill slide before dropping the ball.

I'm amazed at how many people have been taught to play fetch by their
cats. ;)

ciao,
--
       Sheryl Stover  %  If you ask me what I have come to do in the world,
  & Hemingway & Clio  %  I who am an artist, I will reply: "I am here to
sstover@seattleu.edu  %  live aloud."                    -Emile Zola


Organization: Electrical & Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Date: Thu,  5 Nov 1992 09:35:29 -0500 
From: Meg Alison Veily <mv0t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: cats and music (was: Re: other monsters....)
	<Bx6vH8.39w@cck.coventry.ac.uk>

On 04-Nov-92 in Re: other monsters....       
user Alan Chantler @cch.coven writes:
>Henry likes to jump up onto the piano. If the keyboard is open it obviously
>makes a noise (or plays a tune depending on the power of your imagination).

Some friends and I had a real laugh at Brilla's expense one time. My
roommate needed to record a track for a song, so a friend of ours
brought over his keyboard for her. Now, this keyboard was one of those
fancy ones that had many different sounds, some of which were not
musical but were "atmospheric". Well, one of the sounds was remarkably
similar to chirping birds. When our friend put that sound on, Brilla's
eyes opened wide, and she began "hunting" and sniffing around and on top
of the keyboard for the birds. She really seemed confused why she could
not find them.

That keyboard also had some standard rythym/chord arrangements on it,
and we would turn one on, and put Brilla's front paws on the keyboard
(it was only a foot off the ground.) Anyway, it looked like she was
playing it. I know it doesn't sound as funny as it was, because we were
all hurting from laughing so much. I wished I had had a videocamera to
record it all.

-Meg
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: debbiek@rruxc.uucp (25670s-kennedy)
Subject: Re: Does Your Cat Do This?
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 17:17:47 GMT

In article <Bwqrnn.3w1@news.orst.edu>, ballt@ucs.orst.edu (Teresa Ball) writes:
> 
> tammy@ncsu.edu (Tammy NMI Abernethy) says:
> >One of Ashley's favorite things to do is to hide behind a chair, wait for
> >me to walk by unsuspectingly, run out and ambush me, digging her claws
> >into my leg.  It's kind of cute as long as her claws are trimmed, but if
> >I'm about to leave the house in a dress and stockings, it's not so funny.
> 
> >Is this a common cat antic?  She seems to enjoy it very much.
> 

Well it's common with my cat.  She's had an ankle fetish
her entire life.  She is especially enticed when I'm putting
on socks (I hide when I'm putting on stockings!) and she becomes
ballistic when I wear a long robe. My Dad stayed and watched
the animals when I went on vacation, he was putting on his
socks and the cat locked on to his ankle and actually drew blood.
He doesn't like her anymore and stays away from the maniac cat.

Deb
From: collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: When to Neuter?
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:47:52 GMT
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Nov10.223818.18764@watson.ibm.com> baskin@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com (Brenda Baskin) writes:
>When should a male cat be neutered? I thought it was 6 months but my vet
>recommends between 8-9 mounths as it give the urethra (sp?) time to grow
>so he won't get FUS later on.
>
>When do male cats begin spraying. Will waiting until he is 8-9 months
>old be a problem in this area?

I'm so glad someone brought this up.  I intend to get my Tamora a little
brother in the near future and will also be facing this "when to neuter"
issue.  

I have been trying to prepare for it, though, by asking the breeders
that I have visited (looking for the right kitty).  One of them said
there is a new process where some vets will do it as early as 3-4mts.
Most of them said to not do it at less than 6mts. and a few said to 
wait as long as 8mts.  These were all persian breeders.

While looking for the kitty, I also learned that some breeds "mature"
sooner than others.   The general consensus of opinion was that if the
cat is persian/himalayan/exotic short hair/angora then it will mature 
later and so probably won't start to spray before 9-12mts. old.  
However, they all seemed to agree, that if the kitten is an american
shorthair or one of the oriental breeds, then it could start to spray
as early as 5 to 6mts. of age.


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From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: My roommate broke my kitten's leg!!!!
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:11:10 GMT

Joan C. Maxfield (maxfield@athena.cs.uga.edu) wrote:

: he was never invited back.  Even though he said he would stop and he
: understood why it was wrong, he was just one of those people that for
: some reason don't like animals or don't care.  I don't think he will
: ever stop.  

Perhaps retroactive abortion is the best thing for this idiot.

: immature and bi polar but one hell of a cat lover.  This guy would
: come to my house to see Angelica, not me.  When we broke up he was
: upset that he wouldn't see Gella anymore!

I once dated a woman in the Bay Area who had 7 cats.  When we broke up, I think
I missed her cats more than I missed her.  After all, all Koko and Tassie and
the rest of the gang would do is curl up in my lap and let me pet them. :)

I still miss 'em...
--
Ed Carp			erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com	801/538-0177

"There is nothing to seek and nothing to find.  You're already enlightened, and
all the words in the world won't give you what you already have.  The wise
seeker, therefore, is concerned with one thing only: to become aware of what
he already is, of the True Self within."  -- Zen maxim
-- 
Ed Carp			erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com	801/538-0177

"There is nothing to seek and nothing to find.  You're already enlightened, and
all the words in the world won't give you what you already have.  The wise
From: doug.powless@canrem.com (doug powless)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: kitty's 1st christmas!
Date: 11 Nov 92 03:26:14 GMT
Reply-To: "doug powless" <doug.powless@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

JT4Hi cat lovers!

JT4our cat (9 months in December) will be experiencing his first
JT4Christmas this year. Any suggestions how we can keep our Christmas
JT4tree and our sanity in tact?

        Hi Janet!

        Ever since our first two cats, we have always put a rope on the
        Christmas tree and secured it to two walls of the room.  That
        way, if either of them get up on it, there's a good chance they
        won't knock it down.

        Otherwise, one would need to pen them up in a room, a concept
        which I personally find objectionable, because I prefer to sleep
        during the night. <G>

        Also, during the hours when we're up, my wife and I have taken
        turns at spraying the cats with water any time they show "undue
        interest" in the tree.

        Hope this helps!
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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Raw pork ok for cats?
Date: 13 Nov 92 21:29:46 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article <1992Nov13.191012.13488@col.hp.com> lpj@col.hp.com (Laura Johnson) writes:
>Nimtz.1@nd.edu (Rick Nimtz) writes:
>> Is it ok to feed cats raw pork?
>> 
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>No. As I understand it, the problem with raw pork is some kind of parasite, 
>which can live in the pork and can affect people, cats, or dogs (probably
>other animals as well).
>-- 

Trichanosis is the ailment it causes.  I don't know how it affects cats, but
it can severely damage a human host.
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 08:36:46 -0500 
From: "Susan R. Wagner" <sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: temporary re-arrangement

Hello fellow cat lovers, 

As we all know the holidays are approaching fast.  There are only 45
shopping days left until Christmas.  The reason why I am posting so soon
with my questions is that there is even less time until I leave for the
holiday hiatus.  My husband and I are going home and bringing our cat. 
That is all well and good, except that my house has 2 cats and a dog.  I
am planning on keeping my 1 1/2 year old kitten in my fairly large room,
surrounded by windows.  My question is, should I even bother introducing
the cats?  My families cats are mostly outdoors except when it is cold
and snowy and then they sleep incognito somewhere in the house.  I could
probably keep them out while my cat was upstairs with us and the family.
 I can control the dog, but they will have to be introduced.  He gets
along fine with the families cats, but may not like strange cats running
around.  Any advice is welcomed.  I'm  only a little concerned about how
my cat will adjust.  He has a history of getting along well with other
cats and gets recovers from getting spooked fairly quickly.  I know that
this is early, but the time is approaching very quickly.

Happy shopping.

Susan and Jester

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: vboynton@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Virginia R Boynton)
Subject: Cat Seizures
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:57:40 GMT

My two-year-old spayed female cat (strictly an indoor cat) has had 5 seizures 
(3-5 minutes each) about 3-4 weeks apart, between May and September.  None 
since early September (it is now early November).  She's had blood tests (an 
elevated liver enzyme), ultrasound of her liver (normal), and a cerebral spinal
fluid tap of her brain fluid (normal).  Recently I heard of another cat that 
had a seizure (it's pretty rare) and we were wondering if anyone out there had 
any wisdom to share -- unusual diagnoses, treatments, etc.  Emma is otherwise 
fine, and hasn't had a seizure (that I know of) in 2 months.

Any advise?

I'd prefer that you reply to my e-mail address, unless you think a general 
posting would be of interest to the network.

Ginny
vboynton@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: Daniel A. Torrey <daniel@boombox.micro.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: Kitty's 1st christmas!
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7242F5A20018258@terrapin.micro.umn.edu>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 9 Nov 92 21:08:10 GMT
Organization: CIS/DSP University of Minnesota
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:04:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.121834.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca> , janet@kean.ucs.mun.ca
writes:
>Christmas this year. Any suggestions how we can keep our Christmas

DON'T USE TINSEL!  It kills kitties by the hundreds each Christmas.

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Daniel A. Torrey
CIS/DSP University of Minnesota
daniel@boombox.micro.umn.edu
(612) 626-8663
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: cah@zeus.JPL.NASA.gov (Allen Halsell)
Subject: Re: My roommate broke my kitten's leg!!!!
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, NASA/Caltech
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:32:26 GMT

Yes, I think I can say something about this ...

In article <40840@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, ph600fcy@sdcc14.ucsd.edu (Matthew Harrington) writes:
> My 10 week old kitten named Simon climbed up onto the dinner table
> the other day and jumped into my roommate's plate of spaghetti.  The
> roommate angrily threw the kitten down. ...
> 
> The problem is dealing with the roommate.  She is from Ecuador, and
> from what I've heard, Latins aren't generally kind to animals.

I'm not sure that generalizations like this are the point.  SHE is
obviously not kind and that's all you have to worry about.  Personally
I would find this totally unacceptable.

> This incident with the kitten isn't the woman's first
> case of being abusive.

I'm really sorry you have to deal with this (from another Simon-owner).
From my experience the only thing you can really do is to tell the
woman to keep her hands off your cat.  If you think she is kind enough
to respond to this, then that's good.  If not, then you or she may
have to find new quarters.  My experience with people who are mad
at animals (I've known a few) is that she probably won't change, even
if she says she will.  Would you leave Simon with her for a week?

You can't get her to change any more than you can train your cat
to play the flute.  Your best bet is to let her know how seriously
you take this (I mean, she fucking broke your cat's leg, excuse me!!!),
figure out what you intend to do if anything like this happens again,
and let her know what you intend to do.  Don't get into a power
struggle, just tell her what's happening and let her know the
consequences.  Don't make idle threats, just set boundaries.

Whoops, my psycho-babble is showing ...

Just let me add that this will act on your pet just as it would on
a child.  I used to be a very mean cat owner, I'm sad to say, and
the cats I brought up like that are very well-mannered but very
non-affectionate.  The cat I have "raised" with my wife in a _much_
kinder manner is more affectionate, intelligent and playful than the
others.  He's a happier creature and a far more fun and sensitive pet.
So don't shrug this stuff off, please.

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Kay Schlumpf)
Subject: UPDATE: Is this what I think it is?
Followup-To: Is this what I think it is...
Reply-To: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu ()
Organization: Materials Research Lab
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:15:46 GMT




Well, folks, sad news, I'm afraid. Last week I asked whether 
my mother-in-law's Siamese, Dallas, had any hope or not and
asked for help in figuring out what it is. SO many kind thoughtful
folks responded that I didnt have time to respond to you all 
personally so you will have to excuse me for a group thank you!
I really appreciate all your helpful ideas and support. 

Last night, after we had been up to my parents' all weekend, Loni
called and said they had had to put Dallas down earlier in the week.
He was just too far gone and she was really upset (quite obviously
and understandably) about the turn of events. He was a great big
hunking sealpoint Siamese who, in the summer turned nearly 
solid black. He was a BIG cat, but he was only about 7 years old.
Even though I never knew him well, what I knew of him was
nothing but good. He lived a good life though, wandering around a
 5 acre farm plot where he got to chase mice and rabbits and squirrels
to his heart's content. He NEVER went near the road, which was a 
good thing even though their road hardly has ANY traffic on it. Peter
(my husband) is rather upset about it all, of course, but it seems to help
 him having Pixel, our Siamese around. At least they still have Dallas'
daughter Amber ( a BEAUTIFUL gray Persian/Siamese mix), after that
one litter, he was neutered (and it was a planned mating too, Amber
was the stud fee).

Well, RIP, Dallas... animals just leave this Earth too soon...

Kay Schlumpf & Crew
	Peter - hubby
	Baeki - 2.5 yr old black Cocker Spaniel (female)
	Pixel - 1.5 yr old sealpoint Siamese (female)
	Dante - 1 yr old b&w longhaired mutt cat (male)
	Siegfried - 3 mos. old black German Shepherd (male)



Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: morin@noao.edu (Marg Morin)
Subject: Re: WHAT TO NAME A WHITE MALE KITTEN
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson AZ
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:22:21 GMT

 I always thought if I got myself an all white cat I'd name
 him/her "Lightning".
-- 
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	aka: The Seeker   		 AURA/NOAO Tucson, AZ
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ballt@ucs.orst.edu (Teresa Ball)
Subject: Flea allergies
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:03:44 GMT


This weekend I gave my girls a bath with flea shampoo.  In the process
I dirtied all the towels in the house.  When I went to dry them, my
drier was not working.  A friend agreed to let me use her dryer. 

When I told her why I was drying all the towels, she told me that
she didn't give her cat, who is allergic to fleas, a bath because
of his struggles.  But she really wishes she could bath him, because
he get big sores and bald patches due to his allergies.

She tells me she did talk to a vet about controling the itching.  She
says that the vet said he would have to have a $45/month shot to
keep the itching under control.  Being on a small, fixed income, this
is not a option.

Now comes the question.  The only thing I know of that vets give to
control itching is cortizone (sp).  From what I have heard, this is
not something you want to give on a frequent basis.  Is there 
something besides cortizone to give cats to control the itching?  If
it is cortizone, should it be given this frequently?

Thanks for any help that can be given.

Terry
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