HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mspears@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (david.w.spears)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Turkish Alphabet on PC?
Keywords: character set, alphabet, PC
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:48:39 GMT
Organization: AT&T


Does Wordperfect come with Turkish alphabet?
If so, which version of Wordperfect?
       how do you use it?

Is there any software package that allows you to use Turkish alphabet
on PC video (EGA/VGA/SVGA) and/or printers (dot matrix such as IBM
Proprinter III as well as laser)?  (I'm thinking of something that
would allow you to redefine infrequently used characters to appear as
Turkish characters -- then any software you run (such as Wordperfect)
would support those characters without knowing it).

Any help will be very much appreciated.

thanks.

David Spears
AT&T Bell Labs
dspears@ihlpb.att.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.rights.human,soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.cis
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Survivors reported that Armenian soldiers shot and bayoneted Azeris
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 22:14:33 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <1992Nov18.200249.1642@cs.wisc.edu> solodov@monterey1.cs.wisc.edu (Mikhail V. Solodov) writes:

>involved. This basically goes to both parties, but Serdar Argic
>dumps trash into this net more often.

Let it be.

     Armenian Soldiers Massacre Hundreds of Fleeing Families:

"The attackers killed most of the soldiers and volunteers defending the 
 women and children.  They then turned their guns on the terrified refugees.  
 The few survivors later described what happened: 'That's when the real 
 slaughter began,' said Azer Hajiev, one of the three soldiers to survive.  
 'The Armenians just shot and shot. And they came in and started carving 
 up people with their bayonets and knives.'  A 45-year-old man who had been 
 shot in the back  said:' We were walking through the brush. Then they opened 
 up on us and people were falling all around.  My wife fell, then my child."
 Thomas Goltz
 Sunday Times, 3/1/92

Armenian Raid Leaves Azeris Dead or Fleeing:

"...about 1,000 of Khojaly's 10,000 people were killed in Tuesdays attack. 
 Azerbaijani television showed truckloads of corpses being evacuated from 
 the Khocaly area."
 Brian Killen (Reuters)
 The Washington Times, 3/2/92

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)
From: armagan@sassafras (Armagan Ozdinc)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: soccer question
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:25:18 GMT
Reply-To: armagan@prc.unisys.com
Organization: Paramax Systems

In article <9211181349.AA03170@kocrsw06.delcoelect.com>, c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:

|> Hey folks,
|> 
|> I've seen lots of scores and info posted about Turkish soccer. I have
|> a couple of questions.
|> 
|> a. do you have professional soccer the way it is in other countries
|>    in Europe and elsewhere?

Yes.

|> 
|> b. do you have major/minor league or A B C divisions? if so, do you
|>    have the same system where the last two teams in division A 
|>    are demoted to division B and the best two from B promoted to A?

There are both major and minor leauge for A division. I guess, there
are no minor leauges for B and C divisions. There are 5 groups in B
division and 9 groups (maybe more) in C division. Three teams are
relegated from division A and top three teams (as the result of playoff among
the leaders of five groups) from B are promoted to A.

|> 
|> c. can you have foreighners play for a Turkish team? if you do, do
|>    you?

Yes, each team in division A can have maximum 3 foreign players. I do not
know what the rules are for the lower divisions.
 
|> Spiros

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From: 988fernandez@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: test
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:13:14 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University


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From: visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)
Subject: Re: One of them is blatantly lying: "Visser-ian" or "Appressian".
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:10:16 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <9211162018@zuma.UUCP> sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) writes:

+>In article <visser.721928034@convex.convex.com> visser@convex.com (Lance Visser) writes:

+>>	Presenting once again, the 1992 edition of Scolars for Sale.
+>>You] too can buy the "professor" of your choice and you too can have
+>>history] "made to fit".  Have a problem with some of your former 

+>Is that how the mind of a revisionist works? Still, that blind spot
+>is typical of Armenian terrorists and revisionists and those who
+>try to cover up and apologize for their crimes. Well, what's all
+>this about, anyway? "Armenians" for sale?

	Answer the question.  How many of the scholars on your "list"
are receiving money from the turkish government or from turkish organizations.

+>What a "moronian"...

	At least I am willing to post under my own name.  You on the 
other hand are so much of a coward that you will not post under your
own name or answer any of the many challanges to your material.

	You are a turkish racist of the worst sort who lives back in
the days of empire.  A true child of Enver.
From: TEX5HAD@CMS1.LEEDS.AC.UK (Haluk DEMIRBAG)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Foreign Trade figures recorded between January-August 1991&1992
Date: 17 Nov 1992 02:49:15 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Foreign Trade figures recorded between January-August 1991 and 1992

                               1991                   1992
                           January-August         January-August
                           --------------         --------------
Exports                       8.341 b               9.275 b
Imports                      13.161 b              14.331 b
Foreign Trade Balance         -4.820                 -5.056
Foreign Trade Volume         21.502 b              23.606 b
Export-Import Ratio           63.4 %                 64.7 %

NEWSPOT, November 1992
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: erkin@nynexst.com (Erkin Cubukcu)
Subject: Internet
Organization: NYNEX Science & Technology, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 18:57:05 GMT

A month ago, when I was in Turkiye, I heard in TV news that Turkiye,
with the collaboration of METU and TUBITAK, is connected to Internet.
I was confused because I thought that Turkiye was connected to
Internet long time ago. Does anyone have an explanation for this?

erkin@nynexst.com
-- 
Erkin Cubukcu                          Ph#:     (914) 644-2876
NYNEX Science & Technology, Inc.       Fax#:    (914) 644-2237
500 Westchester Ave. Rm# 2G-16B        e-mail:  erkin@nynexst.com
White Plains, NY 10604
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: selmank@sci.kun.nl (Selman Karaman)
Subject: Re: CEVAP: LAIKLIGIN Teo... 
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:14:01 GMT

	Merhaba,  
	Onceki hafta nete gectigim yazinin dili agir olduguna iliskin bu suc-
lama beni cok sasirtti. Elbette herkesten butun kelimeleri anlamasi bekleni-
lemez ama "bu yazidan bir sey anlayan varsa ciksin" yollu bir suclamanin da 
yersiz ve zoraki oldugunu dusunuyorum. Cunku yazinin icinde bir kac tane arap-
ca asilli ve TURKCELESMIS kelime vardi. Bunlarda Turkce'de gayet sIk kullanilan
kelimelerdendi. Halbuki ben dilinden ziyade yazinin icerigine bir tepki bekli-
yordum, demek ki herkes yazarla hemfikir bu konuda.(Belki de hic kimse bir tek
kelimesini bile anlamadigindan itiraz edememistir, kim bilir)                 
	Ama illede 100-200 kelime ile Turkce konusmamiz isteniyorsa bunada biz 
guc yetiremeyiz. Kimse kusura bakmasin. Hem boylece Emre bey'de Turkce'sini 
gelistirmis olur. 


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From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: "Travesty International" and the Armenian genocide of Azeris.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 22:04:54 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <92323.102643U52148@uicvm.uic.edu> <U52148@uicvm.uic.edu>(Chicago Cro) writes:

>Hey Serdar I have some more questions:

Surely.

>  1) Can you refer any GOOD history books from the ottoman period
>     in the Balkans?

Try the following references.

1. "Turkey in Europe" by Sir Charles Elliot, 
   Edward & Arnold, London, 1900

2. "History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey" (2 volumes) by
   Stanford J. Shaw, Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, New York,
   Melbourne, 1977

3. "The Rebirth of Turkey" by Clair Price,
   Thomas Seltzer, New York, 1923

4. "Partition of Turkey" by Harry N. Howard,
   H. Fertig, New York, 1966
   
5 ."The King-Crane Commission" by Harry N. Howard,
   Beirut, 1963

6 ."United States Policy and Partition of Turkey" by Laurence Evans,
   John Hopkins University Press, Baltimore, 1965

7. "British Documents Related to Turkish War of Independence" by Gothard 
   Jaeschke
     
>  2) Are you of Bosniak origin? (Your last name seems to be slavic)

Partly.

>  3) What is a Palik?

A Greek chauvinist with a skirt. 

>  4) Do you have contact with other Turkic groups?

Always.

>You know Serdar, You and I are alike. Dod you ever wonder that the
>cause of most of OUR problems come from Orthodox Christians?

Yup. By the way, I love the way you humiliate "wieneramus the revisionist"
in public. 

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: arto@leland.Stanford.EDU (Artavazd Khachikian)
Subject: Re: The absence of Argic in Athens is ominous, indicating that...
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 01:29:54 GMT


	... that he is busy slaughtering and getting away with and revisioning
in soc.culture.soviet and other groups.
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From: armagan@sassafras (Armagan Ozdinc)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: ENGLAND - TURKIYE (still being played)
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:35:53 GMT
Reply-To: armagan@prc.unisys.com
Organization: Paramax Systems

It is towards the end of game right now, England is leading 4-0 against
Turkiye. The game is being played in London. Let's see if we can pull the
miracle by coming from behind.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: TEX5HAD@CMS1.LEEDS.AC.UK (Haluk DEMIRBAG)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: High drug use among young Europeans (fwd) / PKK POISONS EUROPE
Date: 17 Nov 1992 23:13:50 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

>>> EUROPEAN DRUG PREVENTION WEEK <<<

8<----------------------------Cut here-(C)----------------------------->8
>From: clarinews@clarinet.com (UPI)
Subject: High drug use among young Europeans
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 8:03:31 PST

        BRUSSELS, Belgium (UPI) -- Nearly forty percent of young people aged
15 to 24 claim to have been offered illegal drugs at least once,
according to an European Community survey released Friday.
        EC health ministers Friday attended a meeting where they launched the
first European Drug Prevention Week in order to combat drug use.
        ``Young people throughout Europe are particularly vulnerable and it
is vital that we all act to prevent drugs damaging, even destroying
their lives,'' said British Secretary of State for Health Virginia
Bottomley.
        The survey conducted by the EC Commission showed that more than 35
percent of young European people had been offered drugs before the age
of 19.
        According to the survey, two-thirds of the interviewees considered
getting drugs was easy.
        In Europe as a whole, 62 percent said drugs were available in
schools, and 81 percent said that drugs were sometimes or often used in
schools.
        The survey showed crack was more familiar in privileged social
classes.


L'EXPRESS: "PKK POISONS EUROPE"

The latest issue of the  French magazine "L'Express", states that
separatist and terror organizations in Turkey are the main source
of narcotics smuggling in Europe.

According  to Interpol  data,  these groups  smuggle  70% of  the
heroin  and cocaine  entering  Europe. On  the so-called  "Balkan
Route" 80% of the narcotics seized  in 1991 was brought to Europe
by these groups, especially the PKK.

In the  magazine, it  says that these  groups purchase  arms from
countries like Germany and Belgium  with the money they earn from
narcotics smuggling, and send them to Turkey by ship.

According to  the magazine,  the terror organizations  turn opium
into  pure heroine  in laboratories  in their  base in  the Bekaa
Valley and transport  it to Greece and Yugoslavia  over Turkey or
by ship to Italy.

"L'Express"   records   that   the  PKK,   TKP-ML   and   Dev-Sol
organizations play the main role  in this issue. Turkey has taken
measures against  her two neighbours  Iran and Iraq,  but despite
this it is hard for her  to continue this struggle alone, and the
support of Europe is needed.

NEWSPOT, September 1992
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: senel@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Hakan)
Subject: Beyt diyor ki, "Kuran meallerini aldim". BUYUK OLAY.
Originator: senel@irlsp
Organization: Insulting, Ridiculing, Forwarding Inc.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 03:15:09 GMT


>
> ARTIK ATARKEN BIRAZ DAHA DIKKATLI AT, BIRKAC KUR'AN-I KERIM
> MEALINI BEN DE TEMIN ETTIM. 
>
> Simdilik Hoscakal
>
> Beytullah


Aman da aman, mealler de temin edermis? Ne de guzel tehditler soylermis?
Goc bu be, goc valla. Ne de guzel sooluyo baaaa, Hakan abisi kurban olsun 
buna ba. Hey yavrum hey.

Ay cok korktuk ayol. Ay burda bana fenalik geldi. Demek ki Beytullah bey 
artik destekli atacak. Aman da aman. Ne de korkuttun be bizi Beyt*, valla
yurekcigimize indircektin, Allah canini almasin emi?

Hakan
-- 
___
God made the Idiot for practice, and then He saw that Asbest Bedrossian 
was born. He said "well, this seems pretty coooool."  -Hakan Senel 1992 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: HelpDesk@cae.wisc.edu (Help Desk)
Subject: MIT'in ITLERI NE YAPARLAR
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Distribution: usa
Date: 21 Nov 92 07:23:14 CST

Bu neti izleyen butun Musluman Turk kardeslere bir bildiridir:

Kur'an-i Kerim'e ve Muslumanlara laf curcunasi saldiran ve hic bir fikri ve
ilmi 
yonu olmayan, bozgunculuktan ve yikiciliktan baska meziyetleri olmayan bu
guya turk-isimli $arlatanlar piyasada yeni degiller.  Bu adamlar belki bizim
sevgili milletimizin (milleti merhume) icine girmis hainlerin son kisik
sesleridir.  Eskiden aciktan aciga yapamazlardi, sinsice taktikler ve
munafiklik ile milletimiz icinde fitne ficir ve anar$i cikarirlar, kardesi kar
dese vurdurup, vatanamizin dis dunyaya kolelige devam etmesi icin ellerinden
geleni yaoarlardi.  Hala yapiyorlar, fakat artik gucleri iyice azaldi, yakinda
ya islah olacaklar yada elim bir sekilde geberecekler.


KIMDIR BUNLAR BILIYORMUSUNUZ ?  BUNLAR GUYA 'MILLI' ISTIHBARAT TESKILATININ
MOSSAD VE CIA 'YA USAKLIK YAPAN, BABALARINI BILE TAM TANIMAYAN NE TURKLUKLE
NE DE KURTLUKLE NE DE INSANLIKLA ALAKASI OLMAYAN, HAYVANDAN VE TASLARDAN BILE
ASAGI DERECEGEYE DUSMUS, AHIRETINI UC KURUS DUNYALARI ICIN SATAN OLUMU
DUSUNEMEYEN BEDBAHTLARDIR.  BU MAHLUKATIN SOZLERINE PES PARA DEGER VARMEYINIZ,
BELKI SURATLARINA BOL BOL TUKURUNUZ (M.Akif).

ULAN PIS MIT Itleri !  ISMINIZI Munafik Idiot Team olarak degistiriniz.  
Ne oldugunuz her halinizden belli, hic olmazsa aptal olmayin.
Ikiniz ucunuz saldirirken yikiyor, diger (kalin koca kafali olan)
guya savunma yaziyormus
ayaklarda o da baska pislikler atip yikmaya calisiyor. 
Iki tarafi keskin bicak olacaklar akillarinca.  Biz de guya bu oyunlari 
yutacagiz.  Keh Keh. Beyinsiz herifler!

Iyi ki Islamiyet ve Kur'an hakkinda hakiki ve kuvvetli yazilar geciliyor.
Millet uyanacak diye odunuz koptu de mi?  Fakat siz muslumanlardan 
korkmayin, muslumanlarla savasmayin.  Gucunuz varsa Bulgar ve sirb domuzuna
kullanin, disarida yetirince dusman var.  Gidin onlarla ugrasin.  Yoksa bu
millet sizi pek yakinda 'vatana ihanetle' mahkeme edecektir. 

Akliniz varsa Kur'ana tabi olunuz, imanin ne kadar hakiki ve 
guzel oldugunuzu idrak etmeye calisiniz, insafiniz ile ve nefsinizi
yenerek Islami ogreniniz, aksi takdirde ahirette cok sikayet edeceksiniz.

Muslumanlarin Kardesi Esma Hafi
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Thank You for using HelpDesk@cae.wisc.edu
From: spebcg@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr B G Cetiner 92)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: To Automatic Melon who does not know the meaning of Facsist....
Summary: Helvadan yaptigi putu acikinca yiyen Otomatik Kelege
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:59:32 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, Wales, UK
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway



-A certain Sharaz Khan and his/her band of fascist mujahids needs

WHAT A SILLY GUY!
You do not know even the meaning of the word fascist, Mr.automatic
melon. Fascist means to be a Nationalist or racist in extreme degree.
There is no such thing in Islam, and strictly forbidden
by the prophet Muhammad (pbuh). However, it is too difficult for
you to understand this since you watch the world with your 'horse
glasses'. 

If you, surprisingly one day, go to
any mosque in any part of the world you can see that there is no
race discrimanition in Islam.


-Selim Guncer

ps. you should not eat the 'put' or 'sanem' which you made from 'halva'
when you are hungry. This was same 14 centuries ago where the 'musriqs'
did the same thing as you did.

NO CHANGE AT ALL.....


Beytullah
From: emev02@castle.ed.ac.uk (H Oral)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: ENSEST
Date: 20 Nov 92 09:59:05 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Nov19.202559.17663@mac.tera.com> erkan@mac.tera.com writes:
>

>>yakin bir sekilde yasayan Hz. Ayse validemiz gelecek nesillere
>>hic bir kadinin birakmadigi kadar degerli bir hazine birakmistir.
>
>SUBYANCILIK ISLAMA AYKIRI DEGILDIR.
>
>Hele su sicak iklimlerde kizlar daha cabuk olgunlasirlar palavrasina
>bakin. Firinda cok duran baklava piskin olur ha?
>
>Erkan

Erkan, herhalde Islamiyette evlilik ile kafirce bir hareket olan 
subyancilik arasindaki farki bilmiyorsun.  Ancak bilmemek degil
ogrenmemek ayiptir,

sana ilmini gelistirme yolunda basarilar,

hamid
From: mks9e@amsun26.apma.Virginia.EDU (Mustafa Kemal Husein Saiyid)
Subject: Mosque in CHARLOTTESVILLE VA
Reply-To: mks9e@amsun26.apma.Virginia.EDU (Mustafa Kemal Husein Saiyid)
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 18:31:56 GMT

Dear Muslims,

I'm posting this letter to the net on behalf of the Islamic Society
of Albemarle County and Charlottesville in Virginia.

In recent years we have been blessed by a growing muslim presence on
and around the University of Virginia. Each year more muslims arrive,
a few stay and more faces appear regularly at Friday prayers and at
lectures and activities sponsored by the UVA Muslim Student
Association. Although this growth is a wonderful gift of Allah, it
makes all too obvious our need for a place to call our own.

Traditionally, the masjid formed a nucleus about which a town or
city revolved. We here in Charlottesville find ourselves with no
permanent presence and no base for Islamic practice, education or
propagation. Out jumma prayers are in a church, and although to
the ignorant or naive university administrator it is "non-
denominational," the UVA chapel is all-too-Christian. Many of
us find worshipping in a place surrounded by crucifixes and
depictions of a supposed son of God revolting_if not just
plain haram.

Some concerned Muslims in the area met to discuss this issue
on the first of the month. They made a tentative plan for
establishing an Islamic organization with a permanent facility
within the town and near the University. The result was the
Islamic Society of Albemarle County and Charlottesville.

ISAAC has set a goal of $150,000  for the purchase and
establishment of house for Muslims. This money would come
from Islamic and corporate organizational donations, parents of
students, Muslim families and individuals and organized not for
profit ventures. Our secretary is pursuing formal documentation
of ISAAC as a religious and legal corporation/association as well
as the appropriate tax exempt status.

We welcome all suggestions, assistance and participation.
Please contact:
Inayat von Briesen
ISAAC Acting President
109 Woodrow Street #36
Charlottesville, VA 22903
(804)296-7854

or
Mustafa K. Saiyid
837-6 Copeley III
Station 2
Charlottesville, VA 22904
(804)979-7850
mks9e@amsun.apma.virginia.edu

Finally, please remember that of the myriad activities that take our time
and energy, in the end there are only a few that we can proudly hold
forth before God when our time comes.

                                    Thank you,
                                    Mustafa Saiyid