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From: agpg0623@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Amit Parghi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Rushdie in Canada
Date: 13 Dec 92 19:15:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bz7pHB.JK7
Organization: Marketing Division, Sirius Cybernetics Corporation

sfysh@epas.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Moskal Fysh) writes:
    Rushdie was also interviewed by Peter Gzowski on Morningside (a
    national morning radio show and Canadian Instititution), but I missed
    most of the interview.

    He also met with the national opposition party leaders, but *not* with
    the Prime Minister who was too busy, or something.

However, Rushdie *did* have a half-hour meeting with Barbara McDougall, the
federal Secretary of State for External Affairs; the meeting was described
positively by both Rushdie and McDougall.  Rushdie was also interviewed on
CBC Radio's "As It Happens."

(And "Canadian Insititution" is about right!  Thanks for that.)

Amit
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey)
Subject: Re: Making notations in your books?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 06:11:03 GMT

mtaranto@shearson.com (Mark Taranto) writes:

>At the risk of offending a new (or infrequent poster):  Yes, Aaron,
>you are being anal-retentive.   :-)

A new poster, to this group anyway.  Tsk...things  seem to be running
about 50% anal/50% non-anal.  I was hoping for a more lopsided response.

>> New York by choice...New York University by mistake.
> 
>You should have come to the NYC r.a.b.fest at the White Horse.  Mike Godwin
>showed us the R.A.B. Inner Clique Secret Handshake.

I saw the postings about it, but decided against attending because: a) as
a new member to the newsgroup, I'd probably have had damn little to add;
and b) I'm not in NYC at the moment...I'm currently suffering at "home",
in Huntington, WV.  If you want to get a taste of this hellhole, watch
Channel 2 Saturday at noon for the NCAA Div I-AA football championship
game, in which they spend 3 1/2 hours trying to make Huntington look good.

>> Al Roker is God.
> 
>A number of non-New Yorkers won't get this, but I laughed.

Are you implying that I was joking?

Heh heh...actually,  a lot of non-New Yorkers get it too,  since he subs
on "Today" half the time these days.  And people in Cleveland are
constantly sending me emails asking how Al is (he worked at a station
there before going to ch 4).  I almost newgrouped an alt.fan.al-roker
once, but wimped out.

--Aaron

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From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,news.groups
Subject: Re: Call For Discussion: rec.arts.books.reviewed
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:18:51 GMT
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael

Paul Callahan writes:
>
>As long as we're discussing a split of any sort, the split I'd like to 
>see is rec.arts.books, and rec.arts.books.chat 

A whole range of possible groups

rec.arts.book.ish
rec.arts.books.post-graduate-seminar-in-the-hall-harrangue
  (may be cross-referenced with) 
rec.arts.books.i-bet-you're-bluffing-and-you-got-that-from-the-nyrb 
-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> Don't be a stranger.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: jim@rand.org (Jim Gillogly)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: question for Arabian Nights fans
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:39:27 GMT
Organization: Banzai Institute

In article <1992Dec11.181400.22319@athena.mit.edu> kamorgan@athena.mit.edu (Keith Morgan) writes:
>			David Haan inquires:
>		Anyone out there have thoughts on the recent Burton bio?
>
>	I enjoyed it for expanding my understanding of Burton, for
>clarifying the unfortunate actions of Mrs. B. after his death, and for
>some evaluation of his reputation. That said, I didn't find it particularly
>incisive. The author had done his homework by reading everything by

Which biography are you guys talking about?  The Edward Rice bio ("Captain
Sir Richard Francis Burton") and the Frank McLynn bio ("Burton:  Snow Upon
the Desert") both came out in 1990, and I don't know of any since.  Is
there a more recent bio of Burton that I haven't had in my fambles yet?
Publisher?  Author?  ISBN?
-- 
	Jim Gillogly
	U.S. National Debt: $4,166,020,948,741
	Your Share: $16,278
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:30:53 EST
From: Gary Lynch <GCL101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Airport Bookstores (was: Books for Christmas)
 <1992Dec16.193259.27518@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca> <4086@randvax.rand.org>

the new pittsburgh international airport has a waterstone's (a chain which
received some criticism in an earlier posting) which i found excellent.  most a
irports i have visited concentrate on novels such as steele and collins, but wa
terstones carried all the works of delillo, russell banks, and t.coraghessan bo
yle (authors i have difficulty finding in "mainstream" chain stores).  although
it is much smaller than a borders, the selection was the best i have ever seen
in my limited travels.
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: rcrowley@donne.zso.dec.com (Rebecca Crowley)
Subject: Re: Buckaroo Banzai novelization (was: Kyle Baker is black!! Wow!!)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 22:44:01 GMT

After unsuccessfully looking for 4 or 5 years at used book stores, I
finally got a copy when my husband spotted it for a lousy  $1.75 at
a paperback exchange (in very good condition, no less).  I only have
one data point on what it's worth (a friend said he'd offered up to $100
to anyone who could find him a copy, and got no takers).  I haven't
pursued this very extensively because I like it and have no desire to
sell.

Are there actually people out there willing to pay outrageous amounts
for this, or is this another one of those collector-legends spawned
to up the price for those trying to sell?

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rebecca "You make it, I break it" Crowley -- Standard disclaimers apply
"Forget all this hand-wringing and go ahead and pursue the damn happiness"
	rcrowley@zso.dec.com  selene@blegga.cac.washington.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,alt.comedy.british,soc.culture.british,alt.fan.monty-python
From: joan@med.unc.edu (Joan Shields)
Subject: Books with a sense of humor (was: A modest proposal) 
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:58:17 GMT

In article <15DEC92.21531894@vax.clarku.edu> hhenderson@vax.clarku.edu writes:

>Here's an idea: for all you sensitive folks out there, I suggest forming
>the Roaring Panties Club -- kind of a support group for the chronically
>offended and the humor-disadvantaged.  

Great idea, Heather!  A club is just what you need to keep yourself
occupied and out of trouble.  I knew the electro-shock therapy would work 
eventually.

>Just a thought.

Good girl!  Keep at it now, you must practice new skills in order to keep
them.
-------------------

As this is rec.arts.books how about a thread about books with a sense
of humor.  For instance: I thought Dostoyevski's _Notes From the
Underground_ was very very funny.  The humor was scathing at times, very
subtle, and often self mocking.   Books that may not have been funny to
most others but that you thought were a riot.

Yours in all sincerity and wet fishes galore,

Joan
I'd walk a million miles for one of your smiles
But I'd go even further for that thing you do with your tongue.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: wismith@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (William R. Smith)
Subject: Re: Wandering through a bookstore at lunchtime.
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 16:50:23 GMT


I was in Books, Inc. in the Stanford Shopping Center yesterday
close enough to lunchtime to count.  While I was browsing thru some
cookbooks an older, woman clerk announced in a loud voice to no one
in particular, "I can't help her if she won't follow me."

She had obviously failed to put a leash on her customer, and marched
back to look for her missing charge.  Must be an old-style school marm
moonlighting at the book shop.




William Sburgfort Smith
Intel, SSD
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From: oz@ursa.sis.yorku.ca (Ozan Yigit)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,soc.culture.french
Subject: Re: All I want for the Festival of the Supreme Being
Date: 21 Dec 92 04:53:23 GMT
	<1992Dec20.210337.18721@husc3.harvard.edu>
Organization: York U. Student Information Systems Project

Your bibliography format leaves something to be desired. See
van Leunen's [1] handbook for help, or leave it to BibTeX to
do the proper job. :-]

... oz
---
[1] Mary-Claire van Leunen. A Handbook for Scholars.
    Oxford University Press, revised edition 1992.
From: paula@koufax.cv.hp.com (Paul Andresen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Books with a sense of humor (was: A modest proposal)
Date: 16 Dec 92 15:14:32 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA

In article <1992Dec16.135817.17936@samba.oit.unc.edu>, joan@med.unc.edu (Joan Shields) writes:

|> I'd walk a million miles for one of your smiles
|> But I'd go even further for that thing you do with your tongue.

Show me that trick, she said. The one that makes me scream.

Attribution (I think) to Skinny Puppy, an otherwise dreadful band.

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              If you're really hip, the passing years will show.
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  paula@koufax.cv.hp.com   Paul Andresen  Hewlett-Packard  (503)-750-3511

    home: 3006 NW McKinley    Corvallis, OR 97330       (503)-752-8424
                            A SABR member since 1979
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: chucks@uars2.acd.ucar.edu (Chuck Smythe)
Subject: Re: It fills us. We arrange it. It decays.
Organization: Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research, Atmospheric Chemistry
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:41:52 GMT

In article <=8j288a@rpi.edu> kasprj@rpi.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.170757.17176@grebyn.com>, fi@grebyn.com (Fiona Webster) writes:
 
 |> Take the common example, from psychotherapy, of a person remembering
 |> they were abused.  I, too, "believe" in reality, so of course, I
 |> acknowledge that either A) that event did transpire as a concrete,
 |> physical event, or B) that event exists, as a fact, only in the mind
 |> of the person.  There's a continuum also--between various levels of
 |> accuracy of memory--but let's not get *too* nuanced here!  :-)  But
 |> while acknowledging that that event may or may not have physically
 |> happened, I think the much more important "event" is the person's
 |> memory of the abuse, and how that memory has changed them.  I don't
 |> want us to get hung up on the word "real."  Events in the mind
 |> are every bit as *real* as events in physical space.
  
< I hope I'm not the only one who finds this point of view to be scary. 
  
< What you seem to be saying is that it doesn't matter if you _are_ a 
>victim of something or not - as long as you _think_ you're a victim,
>then by definition you must be a victim. 
 
Er - "codswallop" is the style of the moment?  

I presume that Fiona's point is just this; the emotional consequences of
the memory are the same whether it refers to a real, physical event or not.
I have encountered this conundrum in trying to sort out my own childhood
memories.  Many of the events on which my character are built are so lost in
the mists of time that I often cannot say what is accurately remembered and
what is reconstructed with more or less error.  Steven Gould had a remarkable
essay on this in _Natural History_ a year or so ago.  He revisited scenes of
his childhood, to discover that his vivid memories of them were, in part,
simply wrong.  It is, nontheless, the memories - not the physical realities -
of which his history is built.  Same for all of us, more or less.

			Chuck Smythe



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From: dodd@mycenae.cchem.berkeley.edu (Lawrence R. Dodd)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,alt.comedy.british,soc.culture.british,alt.fan.monty-python
Subject: Re: Git (was re: Et in Arcadia ego)
Date: 12 Dec 92 13:27:27
Organization: Dept of Chemical Engineering, Polytechnic Univ, NY, USA
	<1992Dec11.211005.27778@netcom.com> <1992Dec12.184931.18852@nevada.edu>
Reply-To: dodd@roebling.poly.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: mycenae.cchem.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: wwhitman@nevada.edu's message of 12 Dec 92 18:49:31 GMT


>>>>> "MICHAEL" == MICHAEL WISE <wwhitman@nevada.edu> writes:
  MICHAEL> Nntp-Posting-Host: helios.nevada.edu

>>In article <1992Dec11.130826.15919@abekrd.co.uk> graeme@abekrd.co.uk 
  MICHAEL>   (Graeme Griffiths) writes:
>>>
>>>Thank you for referring to my last post as "_very_ British". In a country
>>>that is rapidly becoming just another state in the union I do try and do
>>                               ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>                                             |
>>                                             |
>>                         Fuck that. >--------+
>>
>

                    [discourse on GB statehood in US deleted]

  MICHAEL> The language is better employed in genuine vituperation.

  MICHAEL> ***Warning! the language in the following paragraph may be offensive
  MICHAEL> to some***

  MICHAEL> For example: I wish the fucking prescriptive grammarians in this news-
  MICHAEL> group would stop fucking telling me every time I get a fucking period
  MICHAEL> out of place or a fucking semicolon wrong. I wish they would mind their
  MICHAEL> own fucking business about the fucking dialectical variations I use, and
  MICHAEL> stop telling that there own fucking dialect is so fucking superior to 
                             ^^^^^

                   Mike, I believe you meant to use the word "their" here
                   (and probably followed by "fucking," but I'm not sure).

 Larry "Grammarian" Dodd.


  MICHAEL> mine. I wish they'd take a fucking class in fucking History of the English
  MICHAEL> Language, or work for several fucking years writing dictionary 
  MICHAEL> definitions for fucking dialect variations, or fucking join the fucking
  MICHAEL> American Dialect Society before they start fucking spouting off on what
  MICHAEL> the fuck they think I meant to say, but was too fucking ignorant to express
  MICHAEL> myself properly.

Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,news.groups
From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: Call For Discussion: rec.arts.books.reviewed
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:50:14 GMT

callahan@biffvm.cs.jhu.edu (Paul Callahan):
>As long as we're discussing a split of any sort, the split I'd like to 
>see is rec.arts.books, and rec.arts.books.chat (though I'd vote "yes" to
>rec.arts.books.reviewed). 

I'd as soon not spin off an rab.chat.  The *.reviewed proposal would
spin off a low-volume/high-information-content group, to the material
benefit of a few readers, with little effect on the others.  (Not to
say I'd necessarily vote for it, but it's a proposal in the finest
tradition.)

The *.chat proposal, on the other hand, is an attempt to separate the
silly or off-topic discussions from the more serious ones.  The trouble
is, we don't sit down with the intention of having silly or off-topic
discussions.  Usually (not in the 'spinster' case, I'll grant) they
spin off from main-line discussions.  Such a split would either kill
the less serious discussions (and I enjoy them, often as not), or 
would result in the such discussions being spawned in the home group
and either staying there, or being shouted out.

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

   Aphorism is better than none.
From: jimh@pongo.Eng.Sun.COM (jim hori)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: What is "the Spanish Kitchen Incident"?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 23:25:53 GMT
Organization: Sun
Distribution: world, rec, usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: pongo
Keywords: Bukowski,Meloan,Buzz,Spanish,Kitchen

In article <Bz7Bsr.KA@emu.com> rickk@emu.com (Rick Kleffel) writes:
>A friend of mine asked to garner all possible information on "the
>Spanish Kitchen Incident".  This is presumably an incident that
>Charles Bukowski would be well suited to write about.  
>If you absolutely know the answer, please send me email as well

Shoot, I don't know the absolute answer (only one person does)
but I know the basics. There was once a popular restaurant in
Los Angeles called the Spanish Kitchen. In fact, the building
which housed this restaurant still stands a few doors down from
the intersection of Beverly and Martel.

One night in the early sixties the restaurant closed, forever,
with no public explanation. The windows remained unshuttered
so prospective diners could see that the place, including 
fixtures, tables, and place settings, but because there was
no public announcement regarding the sudden closure, speculation
began and a mystery was born.

The one person who knows the story is apparently the wife of the 
owner, and I think the most prosaic explanation of the closure
had to do with an illness suffered by the owner leading the wife
to close the business in grief. Since the family owned the
business, the building was, according to this theory, left
intact in memoriam.

Something tells me that the story has been investigated and
written up in the LA Times, Los Angeles Magazine, or some other
periodical. But, given that a couple of years ago HBO or someone
like them produced a trilogy of possible explanations, perhaps
the mystery remains intact. Many apologies for my swiss cheese
memory.

....
jimh@west.sun.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,rec.boats
From: kasprj@operators.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak)
Subject: Re: A RAB symposium?
Reply-To: kasprj@rpi.edu
Organization: The Big Wedge 
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 12:24:28 GMT

In article <1gajdlINN512@morrow.stanford.edu>, Cap'n Fido writes:

|> I have
|> changed the  Distribution from ba to world so as to generate some jealousy
|> around the net. I have in mind particularly the NY crowd who are going
|> to spend their RABullshit session arguing just where to place the *'s in
|> **** and ****.
 
 No hard feelings, Cap'n, I'll hoist a glass of b**r in your honor.
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: sheilah@wam.umd.edu (Danny-Boy)
Subject: what someone "wants" to be.
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:57:00 GMT

In article <13DEC92.21303334@vax.clarku.edu> hhenderson@vax.clarku.edu writes:
[speaking of Mark Taranto]

> You want everyone to think of you as a "nice guy".

[much deleted]

How bizarre.

Does anyone just, um, behave, and not "want" to behave? It would
be economic.







(is this what someone means when they say "hyperreality"?

"want" coming from a perception of reality, that then, forms behavior
that then, forms reality?

okay, I'm dumb. Next?)
-- 
I am always wrong. Don't believe me ever.
stark raving sane  sheilah@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,misc.books.technical,alt.internet.services,comp.org.eff.talk
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: The Online BookStore Announcement: The Internet Companion
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Distribution: inet
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 02:31:35 GMT

In article <1h33r0INNn82@im4u.cs.utexas.edu> tracy@cs.utexas.edu (Tracy LaQuey Parker) writes:
>Well, the initial reviews have been GREAT, but "The Internet Companion"
>has been on the Barnes and Noble "Top Ten" computer books list for 2 weeks
>now. (It came out November 9th.)

I have to say that _TIC_ is a wonderful book to give to someone who
is Internet-naive.  It's written at exactly the right level.  The ORA
book is more nuts-n-boltz and written for a more sophisticated audience.
The two complement each other quite well, and don't compete directly.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: kassover@rumsey.crd.ge.com (David Kassover)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Esquimaux Nell
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:07:59 GMT
Organization: nope

In article <1992Dec14.152313.25908@athena.cs.uga.edu> fuller@athena.cs.uga.edu (James P. H. Fuller) writes:
>
>     Hope makes me ask for improbabilities.  Does the Ballad of Eskimo Nell
>actually exist?
>

All I can remember of something that was called "The Ballad of
Eskimo Nell" begins thusly:

	Don't look at me that way, stranger.
	My pants ain't full of shit.
	It's just this bloody syphyllis
	Eating me bit by bit.


Perhaps an inquiry in rec.music.folk or alt.music.filk is in
order.




-- 
David Kassover             "Proper technique helps protect you against
uupsi!khazad!kassover	          sharp weapons and dull judges."
kassover@aule-tek.com                   F. Collins
kassover@ra.crd.ge.com
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From: sbrock@teal.csn.org (Steve Brock)
Subject: Re: Re-evaluating my position: Was: Call for discussion...
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:08:22 GMT

alt.books.reviews, though, isn't received on some systems, since it is an
"alt" newsgroup.  Speaking for myself, I wouldn't mind posting to both
mine and one in the "rec" heirarchy.  You may want to reverse your
position again.  As a political scientist, I do that frequently.
                              -- Steve Brock (sbrock@csn.org)
From: mworley@mathcs.emory.edu (Meg Worley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Backhanded compliments and other things I get
Date: 19 Dec 1992 11:36:26 -0500
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS
NNTP-Posting-Host: emory.mathcs.emory.edu

In article <9212171539.AA07893@cfdev1.shearson.com>, mtaranto@shearson.com (Mark Taranto) writes:
> 
> 
> spb0457@rigel.tamu.edu (SubGenius) writes:
>  
> > Which, belatedly, brings me to the point of my commentary, the crux of my
> > query--can anyone else think of, or has anyone else been the subject of
> > comparisons that could be interpreted as either praise or condemnation?
>  
> I've been called "nice."
>  
> Mark
>  
>  

I am still smarting from The Finnish Souffle calling me
Tinkerbell.  Clap if you believe in me.

Rage away,

meg

-- 

 Meg Worley 				Internet:  mworley@mathcs.emory.edu		
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From: spb0457@rigel.tamu.edu (SubGenius)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Buckaroo Banzai novelization
Date: 18 Dec 1992 00:39 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rigel.tamu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Fiona Webster writes...

[deletia]

>They tend to get a copy in about once a month or so--I often
>see it offered in their monthly catalog--and the asking price is
>usually $10-.
>							Fiona

+--------------------------------------SubG-----------------------------------+
'Scuse me...is that a price for the PAPERback?
If it is, colour me a chump, as I've gone through a dozen copies or so, each
had for less than a buck and given gratis to various august personages and
disreputable characters I call "friends" (the word's inclusion in rabbit ears
is indicative of the degree of whimsy with which I grant said ruffians that
title.  if I am indeed Falstaffian, the blame lies in the low company I keep,
or I am a scoundrel.  and I assure you I am).







"A thunder of hoofbeats
 across the glade----
 Good folk, lock up your
 son or daughter...."
Yours etc.,




SubGenius


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