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From: marrs@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Scott Marr)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Objects within folders disappeared! help...
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:41:03 GMT
Organization: CS Dept. Oregon State University, Corvallis, Oregon.


Last night I installed the GA, and played with it untill quite late.
One of the things I did wast to move some folders out of the OS/2 System
object to the desk top.  I did this by dragging from the System object
to the destop object.  Everything worked great and I was a happy camper.
So I shut the system down and went to bed.

This morning I turned on the system and to my horror I found that the
folders I had moved last night were now empty!  This includes the
Command Prompts, Productiviy, and one other folder whose name I forget.
I ran a search to see if the system could find any of the missing
objects, but none were found.

So I have two questions, what caused the objects within the folders to
disappear, and how do I get them back?  I'm not keen on re-installing
the entire system, especially if I'm not sure what went wrong.

Any help would be appreciated!



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	Scott Marr  			marrs@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU	
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From: fer9483@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Os/2 Languages
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:48:00 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

I am another new convert to OS/2 from Windows and I have a question.  What
languages are currenty available for OS/2?  I know Borland is planning
to release an OS/2 version of C++, but what can I write stuff with NOW?

							Frank
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: GA problem solved
Keywords: GA bug Adaptec
Date: 11 Apr 92 15:50:52 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <manne.703004493@bern.docs.uu.se> manne@Madrid.docs.uu.se (Magnus L|vkvist) writes:
>I have finally been able to boot GA by removing BASEDEV=AHA174X.ADD from
>config.sys.
>The installation program correctly detected my Adaptec 1740 controller and
>installed AHA174X.ADD but it gave me a nasty C0000005 error.
>So now I suppose I'm running GA with "generic SCSI" support instead of
>real 1740 support. 
>Special thanks to Mikael Wahlgren for the suggestion to remove AHA174X.ADD!

The README talks a bit about this.  If you have an Adaptec 174x
adapter you must configure it for "enhanced mode" to use AHA174X.ADD.
Did you have it in "standard mode," by any chance?
-- 
Timothy F. Sipples       Keeper of the OS/2 Frequently Asked Questions
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: kyl@polari.com
Subject: Re: Windows NT
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix (206) 328-4944
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 06:37:48 GMT

In article <9792@bgsuvax.bgsu.edu> sarnold@bgsu.edu (G. Steve Arnold) writes:
>> Come on you guys!  How could anything exist before Microsoft invented it?
>> Don't you know that MS invented the operating system concept, semaphores,
>> multi-tasking, and all the other software technology ?  Quite
>> possibly they also invented C adn C++.  Ask any Microsoft employee.
>> Sounds like a good old days when IBM invented everything.
>
>
>	I'm sorry, I hate to be a bastard, but I just CAN'T let this 
>one by....

SIGH!  I forgot to include a pre-amble, "This article includes an
adult material.  Minors are not allowed to read it without a guardian."
I really did not think anybody would bite it.  Amazing world.

By the way, Steve, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell.  I will give you
a good price.  Oops!  I forgot!  Actually this was intended as a sarcasm.
I really do not have a bridge to sell.

>
>	UNIX, a Multitasking Operating system written IN C by the 
>folks at BELL LABS, was written  over 20 YEARS AGO -- before microsoft
>was a twitch in anybodies daddy's pants.
>

Thanks for the education.  I did not know that UNIX was developed at Bell
Labs.  I thought Ritchie and Thomson worked for Bowling Green University!
Oops!  That was also a joke.

>Win 3 now, will consider OS/2 when released. I'm just wondering what
>planet you took your CS classes on.
>

I was teaching CS courses, including operating systems, on the planet 
Krypton, presumably when you were struggling to learn RPG programming.

>
>steve
>-- 
>   The only difference between a Communist        G. Steve Arnold
>   and a Socialist is that the Socialist will     Dept. Math and Stats.
>   only confiscate the resources that are         BGSU
>   profitable.                                    sarnold@andy.bgsu.edu
>                        "Keep circulating the tapes"

No wonder!  Anyone who thinks the above (your quote, that is) is clever
or profound would certainly not understand what I tried to say.  What
a world!  It makes it interesting, I guess.

Grow up, Steve!

Kyu Lee
kyl@polari.uunet
From: dlcogswe@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Dan Cogswell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Graphics boards
Date: 12 Apr 92 13:41:53 GMT
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.

I've been putting off buying a new graphics board, but I can afford it
now, so I'm taking the plunge.  My question is:  are the S3 -based
Windows boards as fast under OS/2?  I'm thinking of the Diamond Stealth
specifically.  Has Diamond made a statement about support for OS/2 or is
it "in there" already?

Other suggestions for a good graphics board for OS/2 are more than
welcome.

Thanks....

-- 
Dan Cogswell               dlcogswe@vela.acs.oakland.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael D Kretzer)
Subject: Re: OS2 My experience/minor problems
Originator: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:08:10 GMT

From article <1992Apr10.101431.18818@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, by byu@csri.toronto.edu (Benjamin Yu):
> # >In article <1992Apr9.152625.28104@cs.rose-hulman.edu> swartzjh@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jeff H. Swartz) writes:
> # >>
> # >>       The printer is set up on LPT1. 
> # >>
> # >>	System Configuration
> # >>		483 -33 8 megs of ram
> # >>		130 meg IDE hardrive
> # >>		Soundblaster Card
> # >                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> # >OS/2 uses IRQ7 (the default for the Soundblaster) for printing.  All you need
> # >to do is change it to a free IRQ, and you should be in business.
> # >
> 
> Can anyone tell me how to change OS/2 to use a free IRQ please?  Thanks!

You do not change OS/2, you need to change the jumper on your Soundblaster
Card.  This is a common problem with OS/2 installed on systems with 
Soundblaster cards, since they default to IRQ 7.  OS/2 unfortunately uses
most of the interrupts from 0-7 (or all, depending on your hardware
configuration)...OS/2 uses IRQ 7 for LPT1, DOS typically does not on the
other hand.  This is assuming that you have an ISA (AT compatible bus...
if you have a PS/2 (MCA) or an EISA bus, then ignore these instructionst)


Refer to your Soundblaster Reference manual for details on changing the
IRQ jumper.  A good candidate for your system is to change the IRQ jumper
to IRQ 5.  It involves opening up your computer so you can get at the
Soundblaster card and moving a plastic 'jumper' from the IRQ 7 setting
to IRQ 5.
From: ACPS0754@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca (Bill Theocharoulas)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Help with OS/2 v.2.0
Date: 16 Apr 92 02:21:50 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute

Hi Everyone..
 I recently purchased OS/2 v2.0. I have a 386/33Mhz (recently upgraded)
with 4MB ram, 80MB SCSI (Seagate) Hard Disk (28ms). Unfortunately, when
I bought my computer a couple of years a go I got only an 8 bit SCSI
controller card. When I installed OS/2 my system was running very slow.
My hard drive kept working..I didn't like the way it was running so I
have temporarily removed OS/2. I was wondering if anyone can tell me why
my system was running slow with OS/2. I guess it has to do with my
8 bit controller and my 28ms HD, but i thought it would have been faster.
Any help/hints/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
    Bill.

P.S. You can e-mail me at ACPS0754@Ryevm.Ryerson.Ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael D Kretzer)
Subject: Re: SVGA & Full-Screen DOS Question
Originator: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:56:11 GMT

From article <1992Apr13.212902.19017@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, by ba014@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Matthew C. Brinkhoff):
> One quick question:  If I'm running a full-screen DOS session under OS/2
> 2.0, will I be able to access SVGA modes from DOS programs (CSHOW, VPIC,
> etc.)?

Yes, at least with most viedo cards/monitors.  You might have to run
SVGA ON or SVGA OFF to make sure switching to WPS from the DOS session 
and vice-versa doesn't screw up your screen, though.
From: cjmarsha@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Charles Marshall)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: MS joke...
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:11:49 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

Forgot to mention one of the jokes told by a speaker at the seminar.

He was talking about Windows NT and how it is now considered Vaporware.
And he was mentioning that this vaporware's ideal system would be a
computer with 16 meg of memory and running on a 486 or 586 chip.  Great!
he says.  Microsoft has us running vapor-software on vapor-hardware!

Cute, eh?

Charles

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jtt@tct.com (John Tombs)
Subject: Can OS/2 V2.0 GA be installed from drive B?
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 00:58:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL

The subject says it all.

-- 
John Tombs at Teltronics/TCT        <jtt@tct.com>,     <uunet!myrddin!tct!jtt>

                 UNIX(tm): The biggest computer virus of all
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: SVGA ON
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:00:06 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1992Apr17.072434.4890@muddcs.claremont.edu> jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim) writes:
>Does anyone have any more info on how this SVGA ON/OFF is supposed
>to work?
>I typed SVGA ON in a full screen DOS box and it correctly identified
>my card as a ET4000 chipset (Orchid PD II).  It inserted the line in
>the config.sys that it's supposed to insert.
>About 25% of the time I power up, flipping between a SVGA DOS box and
>WPS works just fine.  But all the other times I power up, it doesn't
>work.  The behavior remains consistent until the next time I reboot,
>when sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't.
>Anybody have any ideas what's going on?  Is this to be expected since
>I don't have a PD IIs?

Funny you should ask!

IBM Boca came out with a fix for certain late model Tseng 4000
chipset-based SuperVGA boards.  It is a new VSVGA.SYS file that cures
sync problems with DOS/Win-OS/2 sessions.  You can obtain the new
driver in the file tsengfix.zoo via anonymous ftp from
hobbes.nmsu.edu.  It will be posted to comp.binaries.os2 shortly.
-- 
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sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu  List, available via anonymous ftp from
Dept. of Economics       128.123.35.151, directory pub/os2/faq, or via
Univ. of Chicago  60637  netmail from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET.
From: swyatt@bach.udel.edu (Stephen L Wyatt)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: HPFS and Memory
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:48:39 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

Just to note-- all of you 386 users out there that have only 4 megs in a 
machine that can handle 8 (like me), I've seen prices for 1megX9 SIMM memory
for $49... thats less than $200 for another 4 megs, which is very good if you
are seriously considering using OS/2 2.0.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: bbrown@b11.ingr.com (Bailey Brown)
Subject: What the heck is GA?
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 02:05:44 GMT

I'n new here.  I used to run OS/2 1.2 a while back, but
switched to win 3.0 because it could multitask dos.  Now
I'm running win 3.1, but I'm thinking seriously about
switching back to OS/2 now that 2.0 is here.

My first OS/2 question is:  what is GA?

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Bailey Brown                               "Above all else, confusion reigns."
Intergraph Corporation                                  
bbrown@casca.b11.ingr.com                              Procol Harum
From: gt6493c@prism.gatech.EDU (gt6493c FLUHR,ERIC J)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: HPFS and Memory
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:06:33 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

>you do a disk read/write to a HPFS partition.  On a 4 MB system, you
>just don't have that much RAM to give up.  That 500K is more useful to
>OS/2 for running applications on a 4 MB machine.  Once you get to an 8
>MB machine, then IBM suggests that HPFS is a good idea.  At 6 MB or
>below, stick with FAT.

So running HPFS with only 6MB isn't a good idea?
I just got another 2MB SIMM for my machine (bumping it up to 6MB)
specifically so I could run HPFS without significant slowness.
I got the extra memory because everything I read about HPFS here
said DON'T RUN HPFS WITH 4MB.  
Unfortunately, my machine can only take 6MB on the motherboard
(IBM PS/2 Mod 70-121).
So how bad is it running HPFS?  I really won't have a ton of programs
open at the same time, maybe 3 tops.  If the system doesn't really
slow down that much with 6MB, I think I'll go with HPFS.
So what is the verdict?

By the way, I talked to the campus computer store today.  They have OS/2
listed on the new products board for $125 (but they don't have any copies
in).  However, he said I could bring in my Windows manual page and
get it for $49.  Sounds good to me, now I just wait until it arrives.

Later,
-- 
Fluhr, Eric J.                           Georgia Institute of Technology
Awesome, Underrated, Developed in Ingolstadt:  Audi, the #1 imported
German car.  Better than a cold Becks, even.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jtq1@ra.msstate.edu (Jim Quinlan)
Subject: Re: OK, does *ANYONE* have OS/2 2.0 GA?
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 03:18:59 GMT

Well, I called 1-800-3-IBM-OS2 a while back, and told them that I'd like
to get the free upgrade form then they're available.  I didn't feel like
waiting on the USPS, so I sent in the form I got off the newsnet April 2.
The free upgrade form arrived in the mail April 9. (Postmarked April 7)..
I also remember someone saying(accuracy is in question) that the upgrade 
forms might not be sent till April 6.. don't know if thats true or not..

I don't know what the griping is all about..  I'm waiting for GA as much
as anybody.. I've been ranting about OS/2 to anyone who will hear me..
most of my friends, and my Operating Systems teacher are all eagerly awaiting
it.. (I have seen it running on a PS/2 95 that IBM donated to a developer
and it looks nice).

I still don't think it's a big deal if IBM wants to try to sell it to
non-os2'ers before the 'hooked' users waiting for an upgrade.. True
I would like to bet it as fast as possible, but I'd rather have an OS that
will endure (easier to do with more users) than get an OS that I'll end up
trading in the future for something that is more common (though OS/2 has
plenty of compatibility to compensate for this probability)..

I've also seen Windows 3.1 beta running, and it is much faster and
more stable than 3.0.. (yes, I do run 3.0 at the moment).. IBM should
be concerned that Windows 3.0 users will opt for 3.1 instead of switching 
over to OS/2 2.0..  Not to flame the 3.0/3.1 users, but have you looked at 
comp.windows.ms or any of the windows news groups?  Many of them are
having problems (that have documented solutions) upgrading to Windows 3.1..
How can they be expected to switch over to OS/2??  Granted OS/2 2.0 is 
compatible with DOS/Windows, it's still an entire operating system and that
has many of them mystified.  The Windows+OS/2 bashing is proof of that.

To bring this ranting to a close, yes I'd like to get GA as soon as possible.
I'd also like to see all the Windows users switch over to OS/2 2.0 and make
it the most popular OS of all time, but that won't happen unless IBM can 
coax a bunch of Windows fanatics over to OS/2..

Jim
* These aren't the views of my employer.  I DON'T HAVE ONE! *

-- 
Jim Quinlan               *     "Don't tell me you can make a bomb
jtq1@Ra.MsState.Edu       *        from a stick of chewing gum."
jtq1@MSSTATE.BITNET       *           "Why, you got some?"  --  MacGyver
From: grendel@cis.ksu.edu (Stephen Spencer )
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: An open letter to PC Magazine
Date: 14 Apr 1992 12:52:02 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University, Department of Computing and Information Sciences
NNTP-Posting-Host: harry.cis.ksu.edu
Keywords: reality, check

In article <1992Apr13.190429.25307@wes.on.ca> tomh@wes.on.ca (Tom Haapanen) writes:
>> [...] This credibility is stretched even further by the fact that
>> to this date, Microsoft has not yet produced a reliable multitasking 
>> operating system. 
>
>Wrong.  Microsoft Xenix (no, not SCO Xenix, but Microsoft Xenix for 68000-
>based systems) is a functional and reliable multitasking operating system.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Tom realizes that users of intel CPU type 
thingies probably care as much about Unix for the M68000 as they do 
about Sys V for AT&T 3b's...

>Wrong. Windows both virtualizes device drivers and preemptively multitasks
>DOS sessions.  I believe DESQview also provides preemptive multitasking.
>
Sure... read on Herr Haapanen...

-Steve Spencer


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rcook@dumpster.helios.nd.edu (robert cook)
Subject: Re: os2 and dos both single tasking?
Reply-To: Cook.14@nd.edu (R. Kelley Cook)
Organization: Univ. of Notre Dame
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 00:30:24 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.102510.1@lure.latrobe.edu.au>, ccmk@lure.latrobe.edu.au writes:
[question on character mode only task switching]
|> 
|> However, I suspect you are really asking - can I run text screens
|> only.  Despite this being the only way to run OS/2 in version 1.0,
|> the current answer seems to be no, since the PM shell is an integral
|> part of the system.  You can try, by fiddling with the shell= line
|> in config.sys, but I have my doubts.  Certainly you would lose a lot of
|> functionality, such as the print spooling.
|> 
I tried to use the SHELL11F.EXE and DPMC.EXE that my copy of OS/2 1.0 had 
in its CONFIG.SYS.  Unfortunately it didn't work, but then again the 
machine was not an IBM and OS/2 1.0 wouldn't boot on it either.  This
was with 6.167.

Anyone else with 1.0 and an IBM with 2.0 try this?

Any other proposals on getting this to work?

-- 
Robert Kelley Cook     << Cook.14@nd.edu >>
Univ. of Notre Dame     The future for Intel computers arrived March 31!
Physics Dept.            Long Live the new OS/2!  Time to close the Windows!
From: tsavola@oregon.uoregon.edu (Tom Savola)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: What does OS/2 v2.0 deliver?
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:24:00 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <92101.115334TURGUT@FRMOP11.BITNET>, TURGUT@FRMOP11.BITNET (Turgut Kalfaoglu) writes...
>Here is a curiosity: CSHOW, a GIF viewing program, runs slower on a
>4MB machine if you DONT tell it do disable EMS use. Otherwise, it
>allocates a large EMS, which causes much I/O on this machine.   -turgut

Have seen the exact same behavior.  For GIF viewing, try Pix Folio (shareware
for WIndows.)


Tom Savola
From: peter@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Peter Wu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Paradise OS/2 2.0 Drivers
Date: 16 Apr 92 05:18:29 GMT
Reply-To: peter@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Peter Wu)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <8kzj#c=.wally@netcom.com> wally@netcom.com (Wally Schwarz) writes:
>hands.  Given that, I doubt if they will ever make it. IBM still refuses to ship
>ANY OS/2 2.0 on 5.25" distribution. What a joke!

Are you sure about that?  I saw two ads in Computer Reseller News
April 6th issue (I think) for OS/2.  One was from a reseller,
Meirisel(sp?) and the other was from IBM.  In one of those two ads, a
box of OS/2 32bit 5.25" was shown.  Or did you mean that they are
going to sell it but just haven't shipped them yet?  That I have no
comment on.

PQ?


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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: IDE vs. SCSI
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:15:39 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <Adqza5C00YVXI9AG4y@andrew.cmu.edu> km4c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ke-Wei Ma) writes:
>    Of course the SCSI card will cost a lot more unless you get a ST-01
>or ST-02.
>    Is it worth the extra moola?  Personally, I think so.  I wouldn't
>stick any other type of drive in my box.

Definitely worth it.  I got the standard ST-01 for free with my 296N
drive.  Recently, the drive occasionally has to re-try reading
sectors.  Never gives an error. Unfortunately, the ST-01 waits for TWO
SECONDS between retries.  I tried it with a friend's Adaptec card, and
the delay was hardly noticeable.

BTW: Anyone else have this drive problem?  I believe it to be the
circuitry in the drive, since there has never been a bad sector read
since I got the drive.  In an MFM or RLL drive, I'd
re-low-level-format it, but the SCSI system doesn't have support for
that.  I tried once, but the problem persisted.  Also, the problem
occurs on different tracks every time it manifests.



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