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From: dburnett@emunix.emich.edu (Don Burnett)
Subject: Re: Re: A4000/Alice
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:46:49 GMT

Look, I am not speaking for anyone here but me, and I know that for a 
long time because of surface mount technology (since the A3000 at least),
for most things Commodore has had their service centers doing motherboard
swaps for older machines, just because there isn't much even on the A3000
that you can repair.. Also, finding competent chip level repair people 
for this technology is difficult in the industry.. If Commodore can 
swap motherboards on A3000's now, they can do it just as easily for A4000's
to upgrade the machines, instead of repair them.. That's just a ridiculous
assumption that they couldn't.. 

Even Commodore's guy who was talking about upgrades suggested that later
chipsets could be on a card that fits on a Zorro card... Maybe we could here
more about this from someone in Commodore engineering (Dave).. I
specifically want to here what that 2MB/8MB CHIP RAM motherboad jumper is
for , if it's not for the obvious (which I have heard that it's not) and 
why if so it was even left on the motherboard.. Also, what are those six
or so PINS sticking out of the motherboard near the custom chips.. They
look like a connector (enough for RGB signals??) and they are positioned
right below the expansion slots.. 

JUST FOR THE RECORD I HAVE BEEN WARNED NOT TO CHANGE those 2MB/8MB jumper
positions because if I did it could IRREVOCABLY DAMAGE ALICE, and since 
this is on the motherboard I have no wish to destroy this incredible new
Amiga 4000.. 

I was in fact told that these should have been left as jumper pad traces,
which would have required that you cut a trace to change them..  I am 
posting this in an effort to stop inquisitive netters from experimenting
with their new machines.. I know some people who have suggested to me
that they were already going to try this..

=DonB=


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From: bamarche@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Arron Marchese)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: HELP! The A2630 and accelerators in general...
Summary: Help! A2630 and setting it for optimum performance
Keywords: A2630 and help needed
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:06:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: vela.bamarche.719183174
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.

I recently purshased a "bran new" A2630. However unfortunately it came
with NO manual. I have called my local dealer and asked them if they
could help - and to no surprise - they were unwilling to help (why? I
simply DON'T understand that!). The next step is to call Commodore, well
I have delt with Commodore in the past and unless no-one is willing to
help than I will delay that for a while.

My questions are :

1) What are the jumpers that are on the board. I assume one of them is
standard 68000 mode? Also is there a switch to disable the 32-bit RAM(I
like to add as many switches as possible to my machines)? And are their
any other switches which I should be aware of?

2) Also I would like to know how to BEST configure my "startup" to
enable all the features of the A2630.

3) And if you have the time any programs (I'll find them on the NET,
just give me the name) which "you" use to squeeze a little more out of
your accelerator card.

Anything else would also be GREATLY appreciated. Thanx to anyone who
takes the time to responed (in advance!)!

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bamarche@vela.acs.oakland.edu
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From: spio@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (little italian Bear)
Subject: GVP HD driver HELP!!!!!
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 10:31:45 GMT

Hi,

I have a A2000 with a HD card GVP.

I want to use the hard disk in Minix, so i need a driver without O.S. call.

HELP ME!!!!!

I need info about that controller or (better) a working code.

I cannot think to disassemble the driver code!!!!!

Thanks in advance.
From: rhealey@kas.helios.mn.org (Rob Healey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Is it silly to buy a
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:15:56 GMT
Organization: Rob's home system, Hopkins, MN

In article <n0ba1t@ofa123.fidonet.org> Aric.Caley@ofa123.fidonet.org writes:
=> And the A3000 offers most of the expandability
=> of the A4000.  The only thing that the A4000 has that the A3000 does not
=> have is the 24-bit video slot.
=
=The A4000 also has:
=
=8 bits in all resolutions.
=262144 colour HAM in all resolutions.

	So what? I need more Y resolution than the AGA set offers and
	I don't need 8 bit color modes.

=AmigaOS 3.0
	This could be on 3000's as well, it's just that C= choose to
	limit 3000's and 2000's to 2.1. B^(.

=25Mhz 68040 on a replacable module.
	The 3000 doesn't waste it's CPU slot on the primary system CPU...

=Graphics modes that on the A3000 would be real slow, are faster on the
=  A4000; such as 640 x 400 x 16 colours.
	Check out these modes on a 3000 running ADOS 3.0, the speedup isn't
	totally due to new hardware...

=Memory upgrades with SIMM modules.
	Already have 16M of ZIP memory.

=5.25" drive bay.
=
	1G drives now come in 3-1/2" form factor and my tape unit is currently
	external anyways, on a 3000T this is not an issue anyways.

=I am actively advising people to ignore you.
=

	I'm actively advising them to ask WHY they need the 4000 instead
	of their current 3000. The current graphics boards for the 2000
	and 3000 offer 24 bit graphics so that's not a big issue. The
	3000 has many '040 boards available, thats not an issue. The 3000
	can have a high density floppy if your dealer knows who to ask
	so that's not an issue. Unless the 4000 violates Zorro III memory
	layout the motherboard is limited to 16M of address space and
	both can expand to 16M on the motherboard so that's not an
	issue.

	The 4000 would require maxed out 3000 owners to give up 1 Zorro
	slot for the SCSI controller. If the video needs 15KHz to work
	in some modes and can't promote to 31Khz then this is an issue to
	current 3000 owners.

	The move to the CURRENT 4000 shouldn't be knee jerk reaction, it
	should be thought out.

		-Rob
From: Todd_Petit@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Todd Petit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Supra Ram 500 RX
Distribution: world
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:29:05 CST
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

In a message dated Fri  9 Oct 92  1:53, Ah897@cleveland.freenet.edu (robert
wrote:

 A> I have a SupraRam 500 RX, with one meg of 4x256 ZIPS installed.
 A> Having left my instructions at home, I need to know how to 
 A> reconfigure the jumpers when I install a second meg of 4 x 256 ZIPS.

 A> Can someone who has one send me the instructions?

 I just did this upgrade within the last 3 weeks. It was very easy (though
those chips are HARD to push in--be careful). If you have 2Mb of 256x4 DRAM
you need to set the jumpers as follows:

               J1        J2       J3
              ----      ----     ----
               OFF       OFF      ON

Good luck!

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

From: todd_petit@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US
From: g.coulter@daresbury.ac.uk (Gary.C)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: HAM-E -=> A4000 HAM8?
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:32:54 GMT
Reply-To: g.coulter@daresbury.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK

I could be wrong here but in may this year I read
and artical in a UK Amiga magazine that said that
Commodore were frantically hunting around for a
custom graphics hardware. The artical said that
CBM approached Digital Creations (of DCTV fame)
with regards to buying the rights to the DCTV
hardware. The deal got off to a good start but
latter fell on rocky ground. Next Commodore 
sought to make a similar deal with the people
who used to supply the HAM-E hardware & Software.

Is the AGA HAM8 mode a development of HAM-E or
was it developed independantly by Commodore. I
know what the AGA HAM8 can do, but unfortunatly
I an not aware of what HAM-E used to do, so alas
I am not in a possition to comment further.

Any info on the origin of HAM8 would be great.

Thanks Gary.
From: vmkiili@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Ville-Matti Kiili)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: max partition size (1.3 and/or 2.04)?
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:28:39 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

earl@rtsg.mot.com (Brent R. Earl) writes:
: When I first low-leveled the drive (gvp hc+2 with fastroms)
: it was showing 108/108/107 for partitions.  Just now
: checking with fastprep, it shows 74m for each partition, and
: info shows 76/76/75.
:                                                           
: The drive stuff read from fastprep: maxtor LXT-340S rev6.57
: size 324m, lowcyl 1, highcyl 1556, heads 7, sectors 42, blocks 665154
: partition dh3 starts at cyl 1 up to 520

There's something very wrong... 1556*7*42 is 457464, not 665154 as it 
should be with your drive. That's probably why you have so small
partitions. Do you have the specs of the drive? If you do have them,
you should modify those parametres to the right values and format
the drive. You may also try HDToolBox. It works mostly reliably.
If you can't find HDToolBox and have no drive specs, you have to
increase highcyl, heads and sectors parametres until the block number
is near 665154. It doesn't matter if those values aren't the right ones,
because only the total block amount matters with SCSI drives.
 
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From: nilsco@ifi.uio.no (Nils Liaaen Corneliusen)
Subject: Re: A4000 graphics
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:00:31 GMT
Originator: nilsco@skautflya.ifi.uio.no


In article <Bw4A6D.961@lysator.liu.se>, boberg@lysator.liu.se (Stefan Boberg) writes:
>   "Useless"? Can you tell me in what way these modes are "useless"? Because
> you lose 48 pixels horizontally? What applications *require* that you have a
> 724*564 screen rather than a 776*564 ? I know of none.

Of course, very few applications need large screen. Heck, lets run everything
in lo-res and 32bit color! I want MORE resolution, not less.

> >------------------------------------------------------------
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>   Yergh! Assembler - I hate it! :-)

Well, try Simula. Then you'll love assembler!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: fihsu@athena.mit.edu (Hsu I-wei)
Subject: Re: Is it silly to buy an A3000 now?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 06:24:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.194433.7333@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.124137.14637@city.cs> lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun) writes:
>>The price drop in the A3000 has affected 2nd hand prices and I
>>am being offered one for 1200 pounds. I was thinking of getting
>>this rather than an accelerated A2000.
>>
>>The question is: is it foolish to get an A3000 in terms of
>>future upgrade/compatability?
> 
>   No.  The A3000 is far more advanced than the A4000 in terms of non-
The A3000 has a hardware deinterlacer, the A4000 achieves the same results
through the OS.

>interlaced display resolution.  And the A3000 offers most of the expandability
>of the A4000.  The only thing that the A4000 has that the A3000 does not have
>is the 24-bit video slot.  
>
>   I am actively advising people to ignore the A4000, purchase A3000s instead,
>and upgrade them later with third-party video cards as soon as DIG is
>available.

That is a shame for the people who are determined to purchase a new Amiga that
go to you for advice. First, a form of DIG may come out in OS 4.0, but that
isn't a guarantee by any means. And the RTG might be as slow as hell. (You
might be able to get good resolution and lots of colors, but not the speed
improvement of the AGA chipset without shelling a good amount of $$).
Considering that 3.0 has barely arrived and not even available to most Amiga
owners, 4.0 could well be at least a year away.  Not that the A3000 is a bad
choice, but maybe you should take a look at the A4000 before handing out such
narrow-minded advice.

>
>>Lionel Tun   (lionel@cs.city.ac.uk)
>>Vision Group, City University, London, EC1V 0HB. 071-477 8000 x 3889
>
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Francis
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett)
Subject: Re: Clinton/Gore (Was: A4000 graphics)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:01:27 GMT

In article <35891@cbmvax.commodore.com> daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
>>| Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
>>--------------------------------------------------
>>      Slick Willie Clinton: JUST SAY NO!!!
>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>So if Bill and Al win, MB gets annoyed?  This is advice from the same guy who's
>wisdom on Amigas is so well known.  I guess if I hadn't already decided on
>Clinton/Gore, that would cinch it for me.
>
>	"Vote Clinton/Gore: Haynie like 'em, MB doesn't"

   Go ahead and vote for them.  I have decided that if the country elects a
flower child and an environmental activist -- both closet socialists -- as
President and VP, the country deserves everything that happens to it.

   BTW, Clinton wants to raise taxes sky-high on foreign companies that do
business in the U.S.  Has it occurred to you that Commodore is a foreign
company?

>-- 
>Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Cool Advanced High-End Systems You Can't See Yet)
> "The Crew That Never Rests"  {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh   BIX: hazy
>              "I got a pocket full of kryptonite" -Spin Doctors

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: aduncan@rhea.trl.OZ.AU (Allan Duncan)
Subject: Agnus - 8372A vs 8375 ?
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:42:38 GMT

Could someone knowlegable post the difference between these chips?
They are presumably plug compatible, but there must be some difference -
process, for instance.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.tech
From: scottl@ritcsh.csh.rit.edu (Or8 (Jerry))
Subject: I NEED HELP WITH MY HD!!!! ..help me..
Originator: scottl@nick.csh.rit.edu
Organization: Computer Science House @ RIT
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 19:54:10 GMT

  Hellp peoples.  I have an A1000 with a Dataflyer 2mb/Scsi hd controller.
I have on it a Quantum 105lps.  It has all worked flawlessly for a few weeks,
until yesterday..
  I was running Protracker, and as I was loading a mod, it crashed.
  The HD now boots only on cool reboots, and then it only works for a few 
disk accesses.  when I warm-boot it, the drive light stays dim for a while, 
(1 minute ish) then it gives me thw 1.3 workbench hand.  
  It has autobooted fine before that..

  When I put in a wb floppy, it ceases to recognize that the hd is there.

 Help me.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: dfs5716@usl.edu (Seidel Daniel F)
Subject: Re: Boing Optical Mouse
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 14:31:02 GMT

In article <Bw3Isn.AB0@ns1.nodak.edu> massee@plains.NoDak.edu (Craig Massee) writes:
>
>I purchased a Boing Optical mouse (manufactured by MCS Tech.) well over
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

   Great Mouse!  Mine works flawlessly too! Lemme see ~3 years...

>2 years ago and it has worked flawlessly.  However, lately I've noticed
>that my middle button does not respond for any utilities that make
>use of it, e.g. DME by Matthew Dillon.
>
>Does anyone owning one of these little critters have a functional middle
>button, or did MCS Tech. disable it for use on the Amiga?  Is there a

Hmmmmm  my middle mouse button works fine....(I think I use MMB)!

>possibility of activating it if that's the case?  (I'm a software guy)
>Any recommendations on other entirely optical mice with a working middle
>button for the Amiga?
>
>Thanks,
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: Avoid the Amiga 4000 (NOT!)
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 14:19:11 GMT

In <1b5hs7INNdng@gap.caltech.edu> keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes:
>Hmmm.. you must have seen a different A4000 than I did.  The one I used had
>many annoying flickers and shimmerings to the video quality.  Only a few of 
>the modes were usable, unless you could tolerate some flicker or shimmer.
>The "shimmer" seemed to result from hig-color modes.  Maybe this was
>just a function of the monitor (1960), but who knows.  The displays I saw
>weren't all that crisp.

You must have seen something different :) It is true that many screen modes
aren't that usuable, but any 640x512 (plus overscan) mode works flickerfree.

Regards,
-- 
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From: nicw@wilson.adsp.sub.org (Nic Wilson)
Newsgroups: adsp.hw,adsp.misc,adsp.se,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: What can I do with a bad HD
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:11:55 GMT
Organization: Nic Wilson Software

In article <karl.4324@prophet.UUCP> karl@prophet.UUCP (Karl-Gunnar Hultland) writes:
>
>
>Since a week I get annoyed by messages saying 
>checksum error on partition work2:
>
>I have backed up the contents of my HD and done a low-level
>format with hdtoolbox , but still I get those annoying 
>errors.
>
>What can I do , except from the obvious throw out the HD or 
>changing into a more intelligent OS that , if an error occurs 
>while writing marks the block as bad and tries another block...
>

Sounds more like a termination resistor problem to me.
Do you have your terminators correct?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: gbar0005@rz.uni-hildesheim.de (Guido Bartels)
Subject: Re: DOMINO-graphic-card?
Reply-To: gbar0005@rz.uni-hildesheim.de
Organization: Universitaet Hildesheim, RZ
Distribution: world
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 11:01:40 GMT

>It also uses Zorro II, which is much slower than Zorro
>III, I'm told.

XPERT told me on a request, that there will be a Zorro III version of
the DOMINO-card out next (about dec/jan).


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: burkert1@platon.fmi.uni-passau.de (Klaus Burkert)
Subject: Re: DOMINO-graphic-card?
Organization: University of Passau, Germany
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 10:45:57 GMT

In article <harry.02ss@elfuerte.fipnet.fi> harry@elfuerte.fipnet.fi (Harri P Pesonen) writes:
>In article ??? burkert1@platon.fmi.uni-passau.de (Klaus Burkert) writes:
>> 
>> The Amiga video-output goes into Domino at the backplate and from Domino to
>> the monitor. Domino has some kind of electronic-switchbox on-board which
>> software-controlled selects either the Domino-output or pass-through the
>> native Amiga-video unmodified (15kHz will remain 15kHz).
>
>So if I add Domino to my A3000 I loose the internal flicker-fixer (Amber).
>Domino would be great if it would input also A3000's VGA output and pass
>that through instead...

It does, of course you must decide what to input as there's only one input...
I actually missed to emphasize that Domino doesn't care about what signal
it passes through. I use it on my A2000 with A2320 and A2630...

Ciao, Klaus.

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From: jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Can you connect 2 Amigas via their SCSI ports?
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 07:07:06 GMT
 <s!jplwg@lynx.unm.edu>
Organization: is sometimes desirable

In article <s!jplwg@lynx.unm.edu>, khuynh@triton.unm.edu writes:

> Why would someone want to do that ?  Wouldn't it be alot easier to use
> PARNET via the parallel port.  All you need to do is get a DB25-DB25

SCSI is MUCH faster than the parallel port...


                                                Jim Pritchett


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett)
Subject: Re: A4000 graphics
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:39:07 GMT

In article <1bcpk7INNdis@uwm.edu> bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R. Block) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.095359.15985@ifi.uio.no> nilsco@ifi.uio.no (Nils Liaaen Corneliusen) writes:
>>Yep, and that is what I want to avoid. It is still a fact, though.
>>The dblpal/ntsc
>>does not support full overscan and would be useless in some cases. I
>>want all modes
>>flickerfree on the 4000, and that is not possible now it seems.
>
>Methinks you've had too much wacky-weed.  DblPAL and DblNTSC both have
>overscan capabilities.  AGA will do everything that the Amber chip did
>and MORE.

   Not quite.  Amber did everything in hardware, but the deinterlacing and
scan-doubling on an A4000 is done almost entirely in software.  They is no
"deinterlacer" built into the Lisa chip.  They are using a combination of some
new resolution modes programmed from software and some software to detect an
attempt to open an interlaced screen and open a non-interlaced screen.

   BTW, you say that AGA can do "everything that the Amber chip did and MORE."
I will not believe you until you can show me "Beauty of the Beast" running
on an A4000 with a VGA monitor, with no scan-lines.  The Amber chip can do
it easily.  Can the A4000?

>(: (: (: (: Have you overdosed on smileys today?  Why NOT!?! :) :) :) :)
>(: 	"Yeah, if improving the system is screwing the user base,     :)
>(:	 you all need to be screwed more often." -Dave Haynie	      :)
>(: (: (: (: (: (: (: (: (: (: (: (: (:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

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      Slick Willie Clinton: JUST SAY NO!!!