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From: thompsmr@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Thompson)
Subject: Re: Jurassic Park Spoiler (almost)
Organization: Aston University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:34:47 GMT

jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver) writes:
: In article <1992Nov13.143829.27464@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> hatcher@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Donald L.C. Blewett) writes:
: 
: >  If you like Jurassic Park, try Crichton's other books.  I highly recommend
: >"Sphere", "Congo", "The Great Train Robbery", "Eaters of the Dead", "The
: >Andromeda Strain", and his latest bestseller (which would also make a GREAT
: >movie) "Rising Sun".  All excellent reads.
: 
: 	I think "Rising Sun" is already shooting.  Stars Sean Connery, Wesley
: Snipes, and Tia Carrere.  The casting alone makes it sound like an excellent
: movie, although I thought Connery's character (or what I'm assuming is to be
: his character) was from Southern California, not Scotland :).
: 
: 						-Jay
	This is from Empire magazine:

	Currently shooting Philip Kaufman's thriller The Rising Sun. Opposite
Sean Connery, Harvey Keitel and Wayne's World babe Tia Carrere, piping hot
workaholic Wesley Snipes is slated to play Hollywood's 1st black superhero,
The Black Panther, about an African King who morphs into a black panther to
perform heroic deeds...

	So, there you go.

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From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: spike lee &  boston celtics
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:35:33 GMT
	<1992Nov18.184529.9185@cs.ucla.edu>
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In-reply-to: il@bambam.u.washington.edu's message of 18 Nov 92 21:22:43 GMT

il@bambam.u.washington.edu (Il Hwan Oh) writes:
|reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
|> By the way, if people are skipping his films because they don't like
|> Lee personally, you are missing some very good films.  Regardless of
|> whether you agree with him, Lee is a talented filmmaker whose films 
|> don't resemble anyone else's.  There is strong artistic merit in Lee's
|> films, and those serious about film are making a mistake if they skip
|> his films.

|I've seen a few of his films (_Do_The_Right_Thing_, _Mo'_Better_Blues_,
|and _Jungle_Fever_) and have to disagree with you.  While they were
|interesting to watch, I wouldn't have minded missing them.  I watch
|a lot of movies and will probably see _Malcom_X_ eventually, but I
|won't go out of my way to see it.

Hmmmm and I've always thought just the opposite.  he manages to avoid
preaching, particularly in DTRT.

|If you don't agree Spike Lee's public opinions, chances are fairly good
|that you won't like his movies.  His movies incorporate a lot of very
|stylistic elements and uniquely innovative techniques.  I could really
|get into them if it weren't for his in-your-face, shove-it-down-your-throat
|style of preaching in these movies.  It's also blatantly obvious that
|the movies were written and directed by a black person, and I think
|there's a lot more to life than that.  His movies reflect (and encourage)
|thinking in very limited terms.

Funny, I've always thought the same thing about most of Woody Allen's
films... and Oliver Stone's for that matter.  Loved most of them
though.

--
Peace.
          "Any Black man who's educated and speaks articulately is not 
           considered 'really' Black.  It's the same reason people think 
           you're a dyke."
"People think I'm a dyke?"
          "Take it as a compliment,  I've learned to."
                                    -Kyle Baker, Why I Hate Saturn
                                   -\--/-
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From: kaminl@rpi.edu (Matt Garretson)
Subject: Re: First "Dracula" Goof - Minor Spoiler
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 01:34:08 GMT

In article <Bxs684.1q7@rahul.net> kent@rahul.net (Kent Talarico) writes:
>I noticed a goof near the end of the credits. Instead of the usual
>"No animals were harmed during the filming" line, it said
>"No animal was harmed" :)

Why is this a goof?  If anything, it's a more formal use of grammar. All
you grammar-gurus out there might have something to say in this.

Didn't they also have a disclaimer that stated that no humans were injured,
as well? Something like, "all violence was simulated..." Oh. I had just
assumed that the blood spurting from that guy's nipple was real.

Speaking of film disclaimers, the one that wins the PC award is the one from
A RIVER RUNS THROUGH IT, which went to the trouble to explain that
fishermen need to kill fish to make their livings. Gimme a break!
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From: "james kewageshig" <james.kewageshig@canrem.com>
Subject: spike lee & boston ce
Reply-To: "james kewageshig" <james.kewageshig@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:31:37 EST

joneil@heretix.East.Sun.COM (John O'Neil - SunExpress IR) writes:

JO>i have never seen any spike lee movies, but i understand he has a problem with
JO>larry bird and the celtics. i read a interview where he states he hopes the red sox and the
JO>celtics never will another game.  does anyone know any more info on this, just what is this
JO>guy's problem.

The only example I can think of to *sort of* support this theory is
in 'Do the Right Thing' where the white bicyclist steps on the foot
of whats-his-name.  They all start vebally ganging up on him, saying
that he should move back to Mass.  He was wearing a celtics shirt.

(Actually, I thought it was a funny scene, especially the closing:'

'I was born in Brookland!'
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From: andyi@world.std.com (Andy G Ihnatko)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: In praise of Flight of The Phoenix
Keywords: Jimmy Stuart, Hardy Kruger
Date: 18 Nov 92 07:03:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: world.BxwGxM.or
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

Definitely two thumbs WAY up!
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From: tt300zx@milton.u.washington.edu (twin turbo 300zx)
Subject: Movie Review: 'The Lover'
Organization: Department of Auto Engineering of University of Washington
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:14:02 GMT

	Has anyone seen the movie 'The Lover'?

	It's about the romance b/w a Chinese guy and a young French girl.
	The movie is rated R but I think it's more like an X-rated film.
	
	Any review/thoughts would be appreciated.

	Thanx. /tt300zx
From: u0d05@keele.ac.uk (PG Herzberg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Favorite Vampire one-liners
Date: 19 Nov 92 11:01:02 GMT
Organization: Keele University, England

What about:

Hey who ordered pizza? Bill Paxton, Near Dark when someone brings the
little girl in.
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From: danwood@netcom.com (Daniel J Wood)
Subject: Re: Catwoman: feminist or femme fatale?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:25:42 GMT

maw5s@Virginia.EDU ("Melissa Wiley") writes:

>What do you think?  I'm considering writing about the subject
>and would be interested in your opinions! 

Interesting question. Maybe this whole discussion belongs in something.fem-
inism, though I think you're more likely to get a varied response here. In
light of Susan Faludi's _Backlash_ (which is HIGHLY recommend to men and women
alike), it is interesting to see, after the highly supressive eighties, a
character that is so strong and symbolic. The "I am Catwoman, hear me roar" is
obviously based on the non-feline song from the '70s. One could view Catwoman/
Selina (sp?) dichotomy as a bit of irony: after all, to become strong and to
stand up for her rights, she had to don a mask and hide her true/former self.
So one could view this as meaning "if you want to break the chains, you'll have
to hide your face" which might be yet ANOTHER part of the backlash. It was,
however, a very refreshing character, and surprisingly complex for a block-
buster movie such as this.  I'm just so tired of TV and movie characters that
are female being given these roles which seem to take us back to the caveman
days. (As another example, consider Troi on Star Trek, forever the "victim" of
some strong, male alien.)

Maybe somebody needs to create a "Hollywood Shuffle" now from the woman's
perspective....
From: walker@Ingres.COM (Lynn Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: HARRISON FORD AS THE FUGITIVE
Keywords: none
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:25:45 GMT
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In the Friday, Nov. 13th edition of the Toronto Star, it says that Harrison
Ford is thisclose to signing onto "The Fugitive" film. The article did not
mention the focus of the film--that is, whether it will simply be a retelling
of the original story, or a new twist.

I like Harrison Ford, but I think that Alec Baldwin made a big mistake by
passing this one up, IMHO.

			-- Lynn --

 *****************************************************************************
  Lynn Walker		+ "When you think about it, the whole idea of two guys
  Toronto, Canada	+  making decisions for twenty million people--that's
  walker@ingres.com	+  pretty funny."		-- The Candidate
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From: kbrooks@ut-emx.uucp (kevin brooks)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.postmodern,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Peter Greenaway
Summary: indulgence, puritanism, our times
Keywords: macabre, michael nyman, dutch baroque
Date: 21 Nov 92 21:26:39 GMT
Followup-To: send
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas

In article <1992Nov16.132526.9913@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, echristo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Elena A Christofides) writes:
 > >Dante's Inferno never reached the US as far as I know. Has anyone seen it on 
 > video?
 > >Prospero's Books is his latest and his worst. It is terribley overbearing like
 > a spoiled child whose been given too much money and too many video cameras to 
 > do with as he pleases! I really enjoy his movies (although I admit that I 
 > almost got sick at the end of The Cook, etc.) but Prospero's Books was too, too
 > much! He's indulging too much.
> 
 > > Doc

No sir.  One should definitely not indulge oneself too much.  Give me a break.
The guy is a professional artist -- self indulgence IS his job.  What you
regard as self indulgence is probably what the movie says that you don't
want to hear.  This self indulgence is the noise of the movie that disturbs
the "informational" -- domesticated -- component.  If you only want the latter
then keep to the hollywood mainstream.

just a thought,

kevin brooks


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From: thompsmr@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Thompson)
Subject: Re: The Draftsman's Contract
Organization: Aston University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL241235]
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:04:26 GMT

Julian Jones         (0032  jzj) (a909486@tiuk.ti.com) wrote:
: On the subject of Greenaway, I have never seen this film on video anywhere
: in England. Anybody know where I can get hold of it ?
: 
: I think Prospero's Books can only be enjoyed properly if you are familiar
: with The Tempest. Otherwise you haven't got a hope of following it.
: 
: Julian Jones
: Software Engineer
: Texas Instruments
: England
: 
: 
	Well, I managed to rent it from my local Blockbusters, so it is around.
And it was bloody good, too.


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From: nancyl@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Nancy Lellenberg Bentrup)
Subject: Anthony Hopkins
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:49:39 GMT

Would love to know of other movies he has been in.  Just rented "84
Charing Cross Road" which was nice.  And will be seeing "Dracula" at
some point.  Have seen "Silence of the Lambs".    Any suggestions/
reviews would be very welcomed.... thanks.

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From: tjk5@po.cwru.edu (Timothy Kordas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.postmodern,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Peter Greenaway
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:43:02 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62144.student.cwru.edu
Keywords: macabre, michael nyman, dutch baroque

In article <1992Nov17.184506.7072@ohm.york.ac.uk> jkn@ohm.york.ac.uk (John Nicoll) writes:
>From: jkn@ohm.york.ac.uk (John Nicoll)
>Subject: Re: Peter Greenaway
>Keywords: macabre, michael nyman, dutch baroque
>Date: 17 Nov 92 18:45:06 GMT
>In <tjk5.32.721953515@po.cwru.edu> tjk5@po.cwru.edu (Timothy Kordas) writes:
>>>
>Drowning by Numbers was made before TCTTTWHL. can't remember dates
>tho'.
>`Dante's Inferno' was a set of ten (?) (sorry, my memory is a bit vague
>on this one) shortish films which together make a telling of the
>first two (?) cantos of the Inferno. It was another Dutch/English
>co-production, made around 1989. The work was made with artist
>Tom Phillips, who has made a new translation & illustrations.
>[ I recommend his `A Humument: A treated Victorian novel' highly]
>
>Also forgot to mention a work PG did on Mozart - can't remember the
>title, but it was alliterative, with lots of `M's.

No doubt

>>-Tim Kordas
>>kordas@snowhite.eeap.cwru.edu
>
>john N (whose favourite PG films are some of the shorts, like
>`A Walk through H', Drowning By Numbers, & TDC, & who
> hasn't yet seen `The Falls')
                   ^^^^^^^^^
SEE IT!!!!!!
it helps to have seen _Vertical Features Remake_

BTW: I watched _A Walk Through H_ _Vertical Features Remake_ and _The Falls_
right after one another (that it in the SAME evening) and I have to say that
I lost interest in _The Falls_ during the middle, so does anybody know if it
is available on video anywhere--or better yet anywhere that shows it ??



-Tim Kordas
kordas@snowhite.eeap.cwru.edu
From: kfree@fatcity.cts.com (Kenneth Freeman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Not Enough Sucking on Keanu
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 01:36:41 PST
Organization: Fat City Software, San Diego, California

mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:

> The Wall Street Journal has BETRAYED me!  They said Keanu Reeves
> spent 'most of the movie' trapped in a castle having the blood
> sucked out of him by three nymphos.
> 
> He spent THREE MINUTES trapped in a castle having the blood
> sucked out of him by three nymphos... (though the nymphos first
> appear by rising up out of the sheets between his spread legs...)
> 
> *X*
> (who remembers now that Keanu isn't a particularly gifted actor;
> or, his voice is naturally 'over-actish.')

 
Could 'Dracula' be FFC's homage to a certain Monty Python film...? :)

-- 
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From: hafner@ifi.unizh.ch (Michel Hafner)
Subject: Re: Can you identify this song?
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 12:25:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.212815.29282@eng.ufl.edu> hsiao@mojave.eel.ufl.edu (Jerry Hsiao) writes:
>If anyone can help me I'd appreciate it.
>
>There is this song going over in my head after seeing Dracula. It was in the preview for A Few Good Men. The music has also been used in the trailer for Shining Through (w/Melanie Griffith) and the trailer for School Ties (w/Brandon Fraser as a persecuted Jewish college student).
>I was wondering if anyone could identify the music whether it be from a actual piece of classical music or from another movie's soundtrack. If so try to mail me as I don't read this group too often.

I'm pretty sure it's from "Come see the paradise" by Randy Edelman.
								M.H.
From: jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Malcolm X controversies
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:07:34 GMT
Reply-To: jreece@sousa.intel.com
Organization: Intel - Information Technologies

In article <jjonsson.249@alexandria.lib.utah.edu>, jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu writes:

> Probably because the title sequence has a burning U.S. flag cross-cut with 
> the Rodney King video tape. I can see a bunch of small minded people being 
> upset with that.

It probably has more to do with relatives wanting a bigger piece of the
"X" licensing action, and various Muslim factions quibbling over
the film's ideological correctness.  Plus the usual reason behind these
sorts of protests: guaranteed media attention.

-- 
John Reece			"This lifeboat is full"	
Not an Intel spokesman 			 
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From:  (Cindy Bale)
Subject: Re: OLDMAN WAS A SEXY VAMP--NOT!(Spoiler)
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:22:49 GMT

In article <BxtL5C.HB8@inews.Intel.COM>,
mdouglas@cad067.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Maria Douglas ) wrote:
> 
> 
> -- 
> O.K. folks.  Here's my opinion (hold on):
> 
> First, Gary Oldman didn't "do it" for me.  Period.  I WANT a hunk o' vampire
> and I got an unappealing, ho-hum, *unhung* vampire.  Chris Sarandon
> (from Fright Night) can bite me any day!!!  Sex appeal, for me, is
> quintessential to a convincing vampire, and Oldman was just that:
> an "old man."  I am heterosexual, and believe me, I thought the
> *women* were far more appealing and erotic than Oldman.  (The
> guy who played Lucy's fiancee, who I am sure played Westley in Pricess
> Bride, would have done it for me, too, but he was a stuffy English
> guy.)
> 
Spoiler follows, so see the movie first.  Then go see it again!




I just have to reply about the eroticism in "Bram Stoker's Dracula" and
Gary Oldman's performance in particular.  When Gary Oldman's young Dracula
gets to the insane asylum, watch him and not Winona Ryder's Mina character.
 His reactions to her are the most compelling, involving rendition of a man
experiencing the full range of sexual ecstacy that I have seen in any "R"
rated film.  His whole body quivers as he leans backward - just to start
things off...    It was very good for me.  

I also suggest that the only other character worth watching for her
sexuality was the Lucy character as played by Sadie (?) in her first movie
role.  Very impressive!
From: ma90alb@brunel.ac.uk (Ashley L Brandwood)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: STAR WARS
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:13:25 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Hi, I am righting this on behalf of our film society here at university.

Does anybody know, if there is any change that Star Wars, Empire Strikes back, and Return of the Jedi is going to be available again on 35mm film.The reason for this is that we have been told by our supplier of films, 
that two of these titles have been withdrawn from rental earlier this 
year with no reason behind it.

If some one knows where we could rent these three films from (in UK) we  would appreciate it it you could mail us with the company name/address.

Also does anyone know WHY they were withdrawn?


Ashley (Treasurer of Brunel Film Society)
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From: rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: McGoohan movie title?
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:35:32 GMT

Hi,
	I tuned into the middle of a movie the othernight starring Patrick 
McGoohan (sp?). He played an assassin in Ireland who had been hired to kill 
a black priest. At the last moment he backed out and was chased the people 
who hired him. I think his name in the movie was Connor.  I also missed the 
last part of the movie and would like to rent it. Anyone recognize it?

rlwilliams@gallua.bitnet
From: faa@athena.cs.wayne.edu (Felicitas A. Atabong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Help settle a stupid bet over War of the Roses.
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:09:44 GMT
Organization: Wayne State University

In article <19395@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> cccsims@it-cap-39.ucdavis.edu (Jonathan Sims) writes:
>
>
>   Due to my V.C.R. being stolen not to long ago I can`t just rent War of the
>Roses to settle the bet myself. That said, the bet is:  I say Turner shrugged
>Douglas off at the very end of the movie but my friend thinks that Douglas
>shruged Turner off (by the end I mean when they die).  Thanks..
>
>Jonathan Sims
>Unix/VMS consultant, U.C. Davis Information Technologies
>jlsims@ucdavis.edu
>cccsims@hamlet.ucdavis.edu

If my memory hasn't failed me, I think you are right. Turner did shrug
Douglas off.
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From: kaminl@rpi.edu (Matt Garretson)
Subject: Re: Dracula filming question
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 01:21:30 GMT

In article <BxroG1.JEw@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> machin@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Dave Machin) writes:
>I've heard from several places that all the effects in Dracula were done
>before camera, with no computer's.  

I'd sure as heck like to know how they did that morphing without a computer!
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From: william@cithara.uucp (William Ross)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Christmas Movies
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 00:11:26 EST
Organization: Local Testbed for network mail, we trust!

> >           Who would you like to see play Ebeneezer Scrooge?
> > My own personal choice has to be Wallace Shawn. To me, it would be an
> > instant classic.  Anyone care to contribute their thoughts?

>  Clint Easwood. Easily.

Danny DeVito....Too obvious after his penguin role I realize, but such
is the power of his craft.

Charles Nelson Reilly ( is he still alive?)



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