HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kovsky@cs.utexas.edu (David Wayne Kovsky)
Newsgroups: austin.politics
Subject: Re: Bush's time is running out
Date: 14 Oct 1992 02:29:29 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: ghidrah.cs.utexas.edu

I just want to calm any flame wars that my last post might cause.
I was angry because I had just learned that somebody had torn a
bumper sticker off of my car.  This was one isolated incident and
not a partisan issue.  I was mad for two reasons:  First, I don't
like people messing with my car.  Second and most important, 
somebody decided they didn't like my position and decided to try to
infringe on my freedom of expression.  This is not what America is 
about.  It does not benefit anyone to simply silence everyone holding 
an opposing viewpoint.  
In my previous post I said that Bush supporters should be ashamed
of this incident.  In reality, all Americans should be ashamed 
when something like this happens.
Now that I have cooled down I am sorry that I took my anger out on 
Bush supporters in general.  I have Republican friends and I have 
Democrat friends, and both parties also have people that I can't stand.  

David Kovsky
kovsky@cs.utexas.edu

















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From: curt@ekhadafi.austin.ibm.com (Curt Finch 903 2F021 curt@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com 512-838-2806)
Newsgroups: austin.politics,tx.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,sci.econ
Subject: His Protectionism is Showing
Date: 6 Oct 92 02:03:25 GMT
Distribution: austin
Organization: IBM AWD, Austin


From "The Economist" Oct. 3, 1992:

Free Trade - The Clinton Shuffle

His protectionism is showing.  Bill Clinton has so far avoided a final
decision on the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), saying
that he supports free trade but needs more time to read the fine
print.

At recent rallies in Kentucky and Ohio, however, he has indignantly
reacted to reports that the Agency for International Development (AID)
has spent millions of American tax dollars to encourage firms to move
operations to Central America, where workers can be paid less than 57
cents an hour. "George Bush promised us 30m jobs in 8 years -- he just
didn't tell us where the jobs were going to be," Mr Clinton cried.  And
later: "Vote for me, and we'll take those jobs back here for our people
here at home."

Yet what do many working class Central Americans buy first, as soon as
they have landed a decent paying job?  In Central America, Levi's and
Nike's are de rigeur.  57 cents an hour is an extremely competitive
wage in Central America, and considered fair by many labour unions.

In the past 5 years, nearly every Latin American country has lowered
tariffs, encouraged foreign investment and begun selling off
state-owned enterprises.  These economies are now among the
fastest-growing in the world, and large percentages of new imports come
from the U.S.  American exports to the region have doubled since 1986
to about $80 billion this year.  According to AID, more than 1m new
American jobs have been created through exports, the single greatest
current job producer for the U.S.

If American companies did not invest in Latin American and the
Caribbean, other countries would soon jump in instead.  In the last 3
years, Asian countries have opened dozens of textile factories in
Central America.  And if there were less investment overall, economic
development -and job growth- would slow.  Unemployed Latin Americans
would go where they think the jobs are: most probably, to the U.S.
There they would compete with Americans for jobs.

Stopping free trade and investment in Latin America may make some
unions happy in the short run -- and win Mr. Clinton votes -- but it
would not, in the long run, give Americans more high paying jobs.

-- 
--
curt@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com (Curt L. Finch) | AIX NFS/NIS Field Quality 
My views are unrelated to those of IBM     |        Austin, TX
 -If you vote against Bush, be fair and throw out Congressional incumbents too-
Newsgroups: austin.politics,tx.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,sci.econ
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: His Protectionism is Showing
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Distribution: austin
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:52:19 GMT

In <1992Oct6.020325.29679@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> curt@ekhadafi.austin.ibm.com (Curt Finch 903 2F021 curt@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com 512-838-2806) writes:


>From "The Economist" Oct. 3, 1992:

>Free Trade - The Clinton Shuffle

>His protectionism is showing.  Bill Clinton has so far avoided a final
>decision on the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), saying
>that he supports free trade but needs more time to read the fine
>print.

Presumably they would prefer that he endorse something that he's never
even seen and the provisions of which were still being formulated?
Yeah, that sure seems to make good sense to ME.


-- 
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 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: kovsky@cs.utexas.edu (David Wayne Kovsky)
Newsgroups: austin.politics,tx.politics
Subject: Re: Citizens against Government Waste
Date: 12 Oct 1992 23:20:36 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: ghidrah.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Oct10.210306.20589@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> curt@ekhadafi.austin.ibm.com (Curt Finch 903 2F021 curt@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com 512-838-2806) writes:
>Quarterly, I receive the "Government Waste Watch" Newsletter.

>This issue picks 17 votes in the Senate and 20 votes in the House which
>CAGW considered crucial to reducing Government Waste.

How do they pick these votes?  From what I have heard Congress has 
far more than 20 chances each session to waste our money.  

What votes were counted by CAGW?  I'm not familiar with this organization,
so the rankings mean nothing to me without seeing the questions
and the "right" answers.  I know that congressmen often give each
other favors by voting for improvements in each other's home districts.  
This would be a clear cut example of waste.  But for all I know, CAGW
could consider education or defense spending to be "waste."  

>If anyone is curious about a certain Congressman, (for example Gore,)
>let me know and I'll post it here.

I'm curious about Gore.  I'm also curious about Quayle.  
>
>-- 
>--
>curt@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com (Curt L. Finch) | AIX NFS/NIS Field Quality 
>My views are unrelated to those of IBM     |        Austin, TX
> -If you vote against Bush, be fair and throw out Congressional incumbents too-

David Kovsky
kovsky@cs.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: austin.politics,tx.politics
From: hari@NeoSoft.com (Doug Andersen)
Subject: Re: Citizens against Government Waste
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Distribution: austin
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:57:40 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.154316.10809@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, curt@ekhadafi.austin.ibm.com (Curt Finch 903 2F021 curt@aixwiz.aus
> 2.  Term Limits, (CAGW sees this as important to reduce porkbarrelling.)
> 	The TAXPAYERS LOST.
 
How do term limits limit porkbarreling?  
-- 
Doug Andersen
hari@Sugar.NeoSoft.com
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From: curt@ekhadafi.austin.ibm.com (Curt Finch 903 2F021 curt@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com 512-838-2806)
Newsgroups: austin.politics,tx.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,sci.econ
Subject: Re: His Protectionism is Showing
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:27:28 GMT
Distribution: austin
Organization: IBM AWD, Austin

mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>curt@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com writes:

>>From "The Economist" Oct. 3, 1992:

>>Free Trade - The Clinton Shuffle

>>His protectionism is showing.  Bill Clinton has so far avoided a final
>>decision on the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), saying
>>that he supports free trade but needs more time to read the fine
>>print.

>Presumably they would prefer that he endorse something that he's never
>even seen and the provisions of which were still being formulated?
>Yeah, that sure seems to make good sense to ME.

Now that he is no longer campaigning in the strong-Union Northeast
states, he has decided to 'sort of' endorse it.  He wants to put
all sorts of restrictions on it, so that it's not really a free
trade pact anymore.  

In other words he's on both sides of the issue, as usual.

-- 
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My views are unrelated to those of IBM     |        Austin, TX
 -If you vote against Bush, be fair and throw out Congressional incumbents too-
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From: jfh@rpp386.lonestar.org (John F. Haugh II)
Newsgroups: austin.politics,tx.politics
Subject: Re: Citizens against Government Waste
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:06:50 GMT
Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II)
Distribution: austin
Organization: River Parishes Programming, Austin, Republic of Texas

In article <1992Oct15.175740.28442@NeoSoft.com> hari@NeoSoft.com (Doug Andersen) writes:
>In article <1992Oct14.154316.10809@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, curt@ekhadafi.austin.ibm.com (Curt Finch 903 2F021 curt@aixwiz.aus
>> 2.  Term Limits, (CAGW sees this as important to reduce porkbarrelling.)
>> 	The TAXPAYERS LOST.
> 
>How do term limits limit porkbarreling?  

The theory is that term limits will prevent congress persons from using
spending programs as a form of vote buying.  If you look at how the
Democratic Party has historically operated (find a group, promise it
programs, watch the votes roll in ...), it seems that the theory has
some merit.
-- 
John F. Haugh II                  [  TSAKC  ] !'s: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh
Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151           [ DoF #17 ]        @'s: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org
Newsgroups: austin.talk
From: reaper@wixer.cactus.org (Keath Milligan)
Subject: Re: If you dump Bush, dump Congress too, (at least.)
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 15:30:44 GMT

In article <21718@rpp386.lonestar.org> jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II) writes:
>
>Congress was thoroughly embarassed by Reagan.  If you look at the smear
>campaigns the Congress has run against Reagan and everyone associated
>with that administration, it should be easy to understand why Congress
>has been so rough on Bush.  Note that Bush has repeatedly sent bills to
>Congress, and Congress ignores them.  Then Congress turns right back
>around and says "But Bush never sends us any programs."
>

Gee, could it be because Bush's plans almost always involve either
limiting an existing right we currently have or lowering taxes for the
wealthy?

>Bush's problem is the Congress.  It knows that if Bush's programs were
>enacted, people would see the Democratic Party controlled Congress as
>the ineffective bunch of buffoons they are.

Then, in effect, the American people are Bush's problem because we keep
sending those Democrats back -- "throw the bums out!   ...but not MY
bum!".  I think Bush is just a weak leader.  Instead of working with
Congress, he's done nothing but complain and whine.

>  So they invent things like
>the "October Surprise" (which was really Carter's plan to gain
>re-election - and how many of you have forgotten that one?) the "S&L
>Scandal" (which was Carter's de-regulation of the savings and loan
>industry to allow allow S&Ls to compete against banks), and so on.
>

The S&L scandal occurred under Reagan and Bush, not Carter.  And again I
say, Carter is not running.

>In a way it's good that Clinton will probably be elected.  We'll have
>4 years of economic disaster followed by no Democrat ever being elected
>to the White House.

Unless Clinton turns out to be some sort of new Democratic hero, I'd say
its a foregone conclusion that we'll have a Republican president again
in 1996.  Who will it be Kemp?  Quayle?  Gramm?

>-- 
>John F. Haugh II                  [  TSAKC  ] !'s: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh
>Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151           [ DoF #17 ]        @'s: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org


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Newsgroups: austin.talk
From: reaper@wixer.cactus.org (Keath Milligan)
Subject: Re: If you dump Bush, dump Congress too, (at least.)
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 15:03:36 GMT

In article <jd71290@pro-lep.cts.com> wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-lep.cts.com!syslep@cactus.org (System Leprechaun) writes:
>jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:
>
>>Really?  Remember Jimmy Carter?  Most of the amazing things he and his Dem
>>Congress did were bad.
>
>Carter had the worst legislative record of any president this century.  He
>was completely ineffective dealing with Congress.  It wasn't "his" Congress
>at all.  The only truly amazing thing he did was help Israel and Egypt forge
>a peace agreement.
>
>On the other hand, next to Roosevelt, Nixon and Reagan rank high in getting
>their programs through, despite the opposition party being in control.  It's
>presidential leadership, not the party, that determines a president's
>effectiveness.
>

Jimmy Carter isn't running, Bill Clinton is.

If Reagan and Nixon did so well, what's Bush's problem?
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From: jfh@rpp386.lonestar.org (John F. Haugh II)
Newsgroups: austin.talk
Subject: Re: If you dump Bush, dump Congress too, (at least.)
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:26:02 GMT
Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II)
Organization: River Parishes Programming, Austin, Republic of Texas

In article <1992Oct14.150336.16426@wixer.cactus.org> reaper@wixer.cactus.org (Keath Milligan) writes:
>Jimmy Carter isn't running, Bill Clinton is.
>
>If Reagan and Nixon did so well, what's Bush's problem?

Congress was thoroughly embarassed by Reagan.  If you look at the smear
campaigns the Congress has run against Reagan and everyone associated
with that administration, it should be easy to understand why Congress
has been so rough on Bush.  Note that Bush has repeatedly sent bills to
Congress, and Congress ignores them.  Then Congress turns right back
around and says "But Bush never sends us any programs."

Bush's problem is the Congress.  It knows that if Bush's programs were
enacted, people would see the Democratic Party controlled Congress as
the ineffective bunch of buffoons they are.  So they invent things like
the "October Surprise" (which was really Carter's plan to gain
re-election - and how many of you have forgotten that one?) the "S&L
Scandal" (which was Carter's de-regulation of the savings and loan
industry to allow allow S&Ls to compete against banks), and so on.

In a way it's good that Clinton will probably be elected.  We'll have
4 years of economic disaster followed by no Democrat ever being elected
to the White House.
-- 
John F. Haugh II                  [  TSAKC  ] !'s: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh
Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151           [ DoF #17 ]        @'s: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org
Newsgroups: austin.talk
From: purp@wixer.cactus.org (Jim Meyer)
Subject: Re: If you dump Bush, dump Congress too, (at least.)
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 15:12:51 GMT


A brief aside to John Haugh: Thank you for moving this to the newsgroup
it belongs in!

--Jim, tired of seeing this in austin.general
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From: sombar@coho.austin.ibm.com (Steven Sombar)
Newsgroups: austin.talk
Subject: Re: Recommendation on Mechanic --- Toyota Diesel
Keywords: mechanic, toyota, diesel
Date: 10 Oct 92 14:21:41 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin



Stay away from Rising Sun Rip-off!  They told me (and I paid for) 
transmission work, which I believe now was totally bogus. 
They also put in a clutch (needed),
but it only lasted a year.  I suspect they "reconditioned" my old clutch
plates, and charged me for new.

Good luck,
Steven Sombar (512)258-3583   Above opinion is strictly my own.
From: wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-lep.cts.com!syslep@cactus.org (System Leprechaun)
Newsgroups: austin.talk
Subject: Re: If you dump Bush, dump Congress too, (at least.)
Date: 14 Oct 1992 06:05:21 -0500
Organization: The Texas Leprechaun BBS, Austin, Texas
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:

>Really?  Remember Jimmy Carter?  Most of the amazing things he and his Dem
>Congress did were bad.

Carter had the worst legislative record of any president this century.  He
was completely ineffective dealing with Congress.  It wasn't "his" Congress
at all.  The only truly amazing thing he did was help Israel and Egypt forge
a peace agreement.

On the other hand, next to Roosevelt, Nixon and Reagan rank high in getting
their programs through, despite the opposition party being in control.  It's
presidential leadership, not the party, that determines a president's
effectiveness.

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From: johncobb@ut-emx.cc.utexas.edu (John W. Cobb)
Newsgroups: austin.talk,austin.general
Subject: Recommendation on Mechanic --- Toyota Diesel
Keywords: mechanic, toyota, diesel
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:48:13 GMT
Reply-To: johncobb@ut-emx.cc.utexas.edu (John W. Cobb)
Followup-To: austin.talk
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin


Well, my sister-in-law is visiting and she's driving
a limpin diesel. I would appreciate it if aynbody
could give me a recommendation for a mechanic to work
on Toyota Diesels.

Thanks in advance,

john w. cobb
(pls e-mail to above address)
Xref: sparky austin.forsale:2190 misc.forsale.computers:36652 houston.forsale:374 tx.forsale:354
From: mike@maximillion.mcc.com (Mike McEntee)
Subject: Home for Sale or Lease
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: MCC Corporate Computing
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:51:00 GMT


			FOR SALE OR LEASE
			  LEASE/PURCHASE

	In beautiful Lakewood off 360, 3 BR 2-1/2 BA tri-level
	Garden Home with 2-car garage, fantastic view, backs
	to greenbelt, deck front and back, hardwood floors in
	living area, wet bar, gas heating/fireplace, low yard
	maintenance; amenities include club house, pool and
	tennis courts. Available immediately. $1250/mo. lease
	or $125,000 purchase price. Call Faye at 219-5140 or
	499-8855.
From: ifap327@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: austin.forsale
Subject: Wordstar 5.0 (word processor for DOS) $50
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:30:51 GMT
Reply-To: ifap327@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu ()
Distribution: austin
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: ifap327@daisy.cc.utexas.edu

This is a full-feature word processor; comes with tutorial, screen previewer, 
save as formatted doc or text file option, spell checker, mail merge program, 
email program (for use with MCImail, CompuServe, etc), hard disk file
organizer and displayer, and a program to do outlines.  All these work 
with/within WordStar.  This comes on 3.5" floppies (but if you give me the 
5.25 ones, I can copy) and I have all the docs and manuals.

I'm upgrading to a newer version.  I'd really like $50, and I'll throw in
in a grammar checker too (Grammatik III--not the newest version but I don't
suppose grammar has changed much in a couple of years ;^).  

Please e-mail (ifap327@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu) or call 452-5845 if interested.  
Thanks.
Joachim

Newsgroups: austin.forsale,houston.forsale,tx.forsale
From: bobc@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Bob Craven)
Subject: Re: '88 Ford F-150 Pickup
Keywords: truck
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas
Distribution: tx
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:14:02 GMT

bobc@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Bob Craven) writes:
Oops, The truck is an 1989 not 1988.  That price might be high for an 88.




>For Sale:

>	1988 Ford F-150 Pickup
>	Long bed,  Red with Grey interior
>	5.0 liter V8 with 5 speed manual transmission
>	Power windows and locks
>	Cruise control and Tilt wheel
>	Bed mat (not liner) and air gate
>	New tires (one month old)
>	49,000 miles

>	Asking $8500

>The only reason I am selling the truck is I am buying a house. The truck has 
>been a great, but I need to lose the payment.  You can contact me at this 
>email address or at 837-4960 after 6pm.  


>-- 
>=======================================================================
>Robert Craven                     AMCU DSCS
>Motorola, Inc.                  (Design Software &
>Mail Stop OE-320                Computer Services)
-- 
=======================================================================
Robert Craven                     AMCU DSCS
Motorola, Inc.                  (Design Software &
Mail Stop OE-320                Computer Services)
Newsgroups: austin.forsale,misc.forsale.computers,houston.forsale,tx.forsale
From: mattair@sun44.synercom.hounix.org (Charles Mattair)
Subject: Re: more info on forsal 486-33DLC
Organization: Synercom Technology, Inc., Houston, TX
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:54:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.145516.17530@wixer.cactus.org> george@wixer.cactus.org (George Wenzel) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.235333.24467@tc.cornell.edu> orb@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Randolph Turner) writes:
>>
>>  You seem quick to place the Intel part against the Cyrix clone (?) when
>>shown in a favorable light (ie MIPS test), but where is the i486/33's
>>benchmark from SYSINFO.EXE?  I don't know about others out there, but my
>>i486/33 gets a 72.+, not a 40.6 and that's at 33mhz, not 38 as shown above.
>>
>>  I think that should more than illustrate what these boards (chips) are and
>>aren't.  I also think the seller should be reproached for his misleading
>>tactics in selling these.
>>
>>Randy
>>
>
>I am running an older version of si (from norton 4.5).
>
>My 486-33's (we have three of them) all SI at 51.5.  The 386-40 we just
>purchased from Wallingford electronics ran the SI at 48.2.
>
>I am not an expert on Cyris chips, however it has been my finding that the 
>Cyrix 486 IS NOT a pin for pin 486 DX clone.  It has no math co-processor,
>and even as such, it is NOT a 486SX clone either.  I get this information
>from a very reputable source... someone making his living knowing such
>things.
>

The SI readings between the two versions of Norton differ - you're both right.
My 486/33 shows 70+ (I don't remember exactly what) and around 50.  The
guy isn't running a scam, at least with the SI values, although caveat emptor
WRT Cyrix.
-- 
Charles Mattair		 			mattair@synercom.hounix.org
Any opinions offered are my own and do not reflect those of my employer.
Never try to teach a pig to sing - you waste your time
		and it annoys the pig.  (West Texas saying)
Newsgroups: austin.forsale
From: dow@mcc.com (David Dow)
Subject: Tickets to U2 in Houston available
Organization: MCC, Austin, TX
Distribution: austin
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:10:06 GMT

I've got 3 extra tickets to the U2 concert in Houston for tomorrow 
night (Wed. Oct 14).  Call me if you're interested.

Dave Dow
331-5083