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From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Looking for Dual cassette decks for recording long sessions 
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 16:43:12 GMT

In article <wmp.02k0@wperkins.UUCP>, wmp@wperkins.UUCP (William M. Perkins) writes:
|> I am looking for a better quality dual cassette tape deck ($200-500) that
|> will allow recording of long sessions of up to 4 hours unattended.  I want
|> a deck that will record both sides of a cassette in the first drive before
|> switching over to the second drive to record, on both sides, the rest of
|> the session.  It would be nice if this deck could auto-reverse or switch
|> to the second drive upon the initial sensing of the tape leader to minimize
|> the loss of recorded material.  Another nice feature to have would to be
|> able to switch back to the first drive to continue recording after the tape
|> on the second drive is full and a new tape had been inserted in the first
|> drive.  Can anybody suggest a cassette deck with these features?
|> 
|>     Bill
|> 
|> ---
|> William M. Perkins                Usenet - wmp%wperkins.UUCP@virginia.edu
|> The Greenwood                       or     ..!uunet!virginia!wperkins!wmp
|> +1 804 750 2101                    BIX   - wmperkins


Pioneer makes several 'cassette changers' that take 6 cassettes and allow
for sequential recording on all 6 (so with C90s you can do 9 hours of
recording in one swell foop). They have a quick reverse mechanism on
this deck that reverses as soon as the leader is detected.

With a dual cassette, unless you use C120 tapes (which most manufacturers
do not reccomend since the tape is much thinner), the most you can record
is probably 3 hours 20 minutes using C100 tapes. So if you need 4 hours
or recording time, the Pioneer changers might be your only choice.

Have you considered any alternatives ? A portable DAT will run you $600
(or less, prices seem to drop every month !) and most have a long play
mode recording at 33khz sampling freq. that allows 4 hours continuous
recording. I got email from someone in the dat digest telling me he 
could not distinguish between recordings at 33khz and at the regular 44khz.
You may also want to consider VHS or Beta HiFi. Using longer tapes such
as a T180 or longer playing mode such as LP or EP you can get over 3 hours
of continuous recording.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 08:51:13 EDT
From: Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Thanks (was Re: Stacking audio components)

Wow! I was deluged with replies and suggestions. Rather than thank everyone
personally, I'd like to thank the net.at.large for being so helpful.
---
later,
Sunil
From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Very expensive cables
Date: 15 Sep 1992 01:17:33 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au

sbradley@scic.intel.com (Seth Bradley) writes:

>In article <19197kINNh6@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) writes:
>>Add to this a set of trials where you ask the subject to make 
>>subjective comments like "better, worse, same" to the manipulations
>>and then we can not only start to see if there is any detectable
>>difference but if the change is "better" and on what proportion of
>>trials it was judged better.

>Sorry, but you don't do subjective measurements in double blind tests,
>it makes the methodology _a lot_ harder to get right, with much more
>room for error.  The way to do it is to randomly make A B assignments
>in pairs (like AA, AB, BA, BB) with a single selection played through
>each pairing.  Then your panel simply needs to say "same or different".
>Very simple, little margin for error.  Better or worse comments can be
>done informally (with the subjects still not knowing what the identification
>is of A and B) later.  This is how I've seen all audio double-blind tests
>conducted, and that is how I'll be doing my double-blind interconnect
>test.

Notice I said, "add to this a set of trials", maybe I did not make myself
clear.  I was thinking about another experiment.  The process I was thinking
about is known as psychophysical scaling and in this case the equipment would
be scaled (relative to each other) on a measure of "goodness" this should
be done double blind. Some kind of paired comparison procedure sould suffice.

To my knowledge I don't think any mag/rag or hi-fi manufacturer has tried
a double blind, "goodness" scaling procedure.

eg, 

Products A, B and C...

present AB, AC and BC (randomizing the order within and between trials).

Subjects hear two passages (same music, within trial, perhaps randomized
between trials, perhaps not) simply respond (privately via button box)
which sounded "best".   After about 100 trials you should be able to
rank A, B and C in order of "best-ness".

Psychophysics is my living

Regards Scott.
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From: dpunjabi@nyx.cs.du.edu (DINESH PUNJABI)
Subject: Need info + good mail order places for an Amp ( PLEASE HELP ME )
Keywords: Denon, Yamaha, Sony, Onkyo, etc.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 00:08:00 GMT

PLEASE HELP ME !!

I am in the process of buying an INTEGRATED AMPLIFIER with surround. 
I am leaning towards buying a Denon AVC-1000 or AVC-3020 system. 

I would appreciate any feedback in terms of similar products from 
other brands like Yamaha, Sony, Onkyo, etc. 

Are there any reliable ( fair priced ) mail order places that carry
such a product(s) ?? Does extended warranty purchase make any sense in
buying audio products ??

I would sincerely appreciate EMAIL responses for all or part of my 
email questions. 

I will then compile and post an article of responses in future.


Rgds

Dinesh


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Dinesh Punjabi 
dpunjabi@nyx.cs.du.edu                Work: (303)-595-2901
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From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Identify 3M tape, please
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 17:34:12 GMT

In article <16354@pitt.UUCP>, hoffman@cs.pitt.edu (Bob Hoffman) writes:
|> I recently came across some 3M recording tape that I can't identify.
|> Would someone with a 3M catalog please look this part number up and
|> tell me what application this tape is designed for?  The part number
|> is "8206-1/4-3600 RL".
|> 
|> 	Thanks,
|> 	---Bob.
|> 
|> -- 
|> Bob Hoffman, N3CVL       pitt!hoffman
|> Pitt Computer Science    hoffman@cs.pitt.edu    FAX: +1 412 624 8854

You may want to try contacting 3M (I seem to recall they have a consumer
toll-free number).
From: digdug@iastate.edu (Doug V Tran)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: FOR SALE: SONY STR-AV710
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:34:41 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA




FOR SALE: SONY STR-AV710 RECEIVER

FEATURES:

	audio/video receiver with full remote
	55 W/ch into 8 ohms
	matrix surround sound
	index tuning
	direct comaprator tuning with direct access tuning
	tuner EQ link
	dynamic bass feedback
	5-band electronix graphic equalizer
	sprectrum analyzer display
	INPUTS: 2 video, 2 tape, CD, LD/CDV, phono.
	Supports 2 pairs of speakers
	Great condition.

 	Original retail: $350
	Asking: $200

This is a great receiver but I'm switching to components.  Comes with
original box and packaging.

If interested, please call 515-292-3384 or e-mail at digdug@iastate.edu

thanks,
later,
doug
	
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From: toml@marvin.Solbourne.COM (Tom LaStrange)
Subject: Adcom mailorder?
Reply-To: toml@solbourne.com
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc. 	
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:28:52 GMT

Anyone have a good source to mailorder Adcom components?  In particular,
I'm looking to get a 535 amp.

Thanks,
Tom LaStrange
ParcPlace Systems - Boulder
toml@Solbourne.COM  (for a while longer)
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From: ntmtv!lchan@ames.arc.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: Pro-Logic Recievers (STRAV1070/D1S/etc) Summary!
Organization: Northern Telecom
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:56:25 GMT

In article <BuLoxw.8w6@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> pchi@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Eric Chi)
writes:
>In article <1992Sep14.160008.20967@ultra.com> wayne@ultra.com (Wayne Hathaway)
writes:
>>I looked at the various Kenwoods myself recently, and was very
>>surprised to find that the lower models do *NOT* have S-Video
>>connections.  To me this is just too short-sighted, even though my
>>current VCR doesn't have S-Video either.
>
>Just to quote from a recent article in Stereo Reveiw (August 1992, p. 47):
>"... Most important among these is the completely erroneous notion that VCR's
>equipped with S connectors cannot be used except with similarly equipped
monitors. ... In truth, S-VHS's single benefit- higher resolution- has to do
only with
>the bandwidth of the signal recorded on the tape, which the S connector
doesn't
>affect at all. The single benefit of the S connector, on the other hand, is 
>equally applicable to all consumer VCR formats, "super" of otherwise.
>
>> ...>

Isn't the whole idea of S-connectors for receivers so that the receiver can
function as a video switch for devices that has S-connectors?  I would think
that if you have a SVHS deck and a good TV with S-connector you WOULD want
to have the S-connectors on the receiver to do switching between sources.
From: tswingle@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Tom Swingle)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Green Pens & CDs (was Re: Very expensive cables)
Date: 5 Sep 92 03:13:04 GMT
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept,. Athens

In article <1992Sep5.000507.10427@mprgate.mpr.ca> mcvey@mpr.ca (Iain McVey) writes:
>In article <Bu2Fp0.3wx@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> ags@seaman.cc.purdue.edu (Dave Seaman) writes:
>>Actually, the data and the label are both on the same side of the CD. The  
>>data is read through the plastic, from the opposite (non-label) side.

>I hope I am not the 115th do post this, but

>Huh?

>- Iain -

I think Dave Seaman is right.  As I understand it, there is actually a very
thick (compared to the total thickness of the CD) coating that is designed to
catch any scratches that might otherwise damage the data.  It is also designed
so that any scratches on its surface do not interfere with the laser.  Because
of this coating, the data on the CD is actually closer to the label (non-blank)
side.  It seems odd at first (it did to me too) but it does make sense.
-- 
"The problem you are experiencing is  |  "To be sure of hitting the target, 
not with the network nor with the     |  shoot first and, whatever you hit, 
station.  Please adjust your set."    |  call it the target." 
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From: interpol@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Interpol)
Subject: Followup : Sony STR-D1090 Rear Speaker Buzz and other stuff
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 22:22:33 GMT


About a week ago I posted an article concerning my new Sony receiver's
surround problem, a slight buzz coming from the rear speakers.  First of all,
many thanks to those who responded with possible diagnoses.  I'm happy to say
that I exchanged the unit for a new one, and the problem is gone, so it was
just that one defective unit, not a design flaw on Sony's part.

That said, I heartily recommend this unit.  120x2 w/ch or 75x3 w/ch front, 30
w/ch rear, DSP, 20 soundfield settings, and a lot of other stuff.  If you're
interested in this unit, you can buy it from Colonel Audio/Video in Texas for
$405, the best price I have seen for this unit.  Very good service also.

I also bought some Cambridge SoundWorks Ensemble II's, and like most people
who have recommended this set on this newsgroup, IMO it's one of the best
satellite/subwoofer speakers systems you can buy for the money.

Last but not least, I got the Sony CDP-X229ES CD player from Kief's Audio in
Lawrence, Kansas, for $310.  Again, excellent service and price, and the unit
sounds great - it uses Sony's new 90MHz HDLC Converter, along with other
things.

Anyway, if anyone's interested in specs or recommendations, please let me
know.  I'm a very satisfied customer of the above dealers, and nothing else.
From: henken@ocf.berkeley.edu (Matthew J. Henken)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Off-center sound stage?
Date: 8 Sep 1992 06:58:55 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

Hello all!  I'm hoping you can help me with a problem I'm experiencing and
I've never even *heard* of before:  My soundstage is shifted to the left.

That is, things seem to be in a proper relation to one another, but the whole
works seems to be centered about a point much closer to the left speaker than
the right speaker.

Since I'm so far from being able to understand what is causing this, I won't
add any more details other than the fact that the speakers are Magnepan 2.6R
driven by an Adcom 555II Amp directly fed by an NAD 5000 CD player.

I hope someone here has a better idea of the cause of this phenomenon than
I do.  If you have any guesses, you have a better idea than I do, so feel free
to ask other questions to have me clarify the situation either by post or
e-mail.

Thanks very much,
Matthew J. Henken
henken@ocf.berkeley.edu
From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Focal Press books overpriced (Re: AES/EBU)
Date: 7 Sep 92 14:50:22 GMT
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL

In article <1992Sep7.065850.29923@news.cs.brandeis.edu> jacob@max.cc.brandeis.edu ( ) writes:
>In article <23632@alice.att.com> andrew@alice.att.com (Andrew Hume) writes:
>>Well, you really need to buy The Art of Digital Audio by Watkinson
>>(Focal Press, 1988) as a starting point.

>Why is it that (some?) Focal Press books are so wildly overpriced?

The more limited the distribution the higher the cost.  Not enough
volume to bring the prices down.

>I don't know about this one, but there's 400 p. paperback on recording
>("Introduction to Recording" or something like that) that's 60$ !!!!

>If the same goes for Watkinson's book, I'd suggest looking into one
>of Ken Pohlman's books.

I have Pohlman's Digital Audio book but not his new one on CD's.  I
also have Watkinson's book.  The latter is (was) $49.95 list.   There
is a world of difference.  If you really want to know, on the lowest
level, Watkinson is the book.

If you don't need that depth try Pohlman.  Or conversely.   If you read
Pohlman, and want to know more get the Watkinson book.

I have never found really great tech books priced cheaply.  I have
found some overpriced books.   You really almost have to go to a store
that handles them and look at them yourself.

If you take Watkinon's book on digital and the Camras book "Magnetic
Recoring" ($79) and read them both, you probably won't have any more
questions.    And if you think ~$130 on a pair of books is expensive,
it's cheaper than many other forms of education.

>I don't care how good their books are, publishers who shamelessly
>set prices like Focal Press need to be taught a lesson.

The Focal books on digital, from Watkinson, are not overpriced in my
opinion.  I can't say on any of their other books.


>In a related vein. If you've ever ordered books from Mix Bookshelf,
>don't in the future before you check the list price of that book.

>The one time I checked, Mix Bookshelf's price was 10$ above the
>publishers list price (as quoted in Books in Print) for a book of 35$
>(_not_ counting postage).

>Of course I was able to order it directly from the publisher for the
>list price (thru a friendly bookstore in the Boston area) and save 10$
>_as well as_  postage.

Ah, now you're getting smart :-).  Must have been those books you've
read.

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From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Sony's CD advertising
Date: 9 Sep 1992 05:53:09 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au

sklower@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Keith Sklower) writes:

>In article <1992Sep8.153152@trc.amoco.com> znpt01@trc.amoco.com (Norman P. Tracy) writes:

>}The real casualty of all this is CD-R (CD Recordable)....
>} you can buy it today (recoders - $5000, blank disks - $25). 
>}Unlike DCC or MD a CD-R can be played back in any of the millions
>}of CD players in the world today. But do not hold your breath waiting for CD-R
>}prices to come down due to the economies of scale.

>One thing that may bring down the price of the media might be the new
>``Photo CD'' system that Kodak is introducing.... digitize your photos
>and put them on CD-ROM format.  I saw some literature on the tech. details,
>but didn't decipher whether it was the 5" or 3" format.

Similarly there is likely to be an explosion (of sorts) in the personal
CD-ROM burner market.  CD-ROM for home PC's is taking off and it won't be long
before people will be wanting to make their own CD-ROMS.  A friend of mine 
just purchased a CD-ROM burner for his business, the good thing about this is 
that it can be a CD recorder too :-)

Regards Scott.
_______________________________________________________________________________
Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au]  PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272).                
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Nedlands, 6009.  PERTH, W.A.                                      v       

Joy is a Jaguar XJ-6 with a flat battery, a blown oil seal and an unsympathetic wife, 9km outside of a small remote town, 3:15am on a cold wet winters morning.
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Regard Scott.
From: smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Sony's CD advertising
Date: 14 Sep 92 10:11:36 GMT
Reply-To: P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Organization: University of Bristol

In article <RBS.92Sep11194253@mink.uk.ac.ed.aisb> rbs@aisb.ed.ac.uk writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.135709.3716@bristol.ac.uk> smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee) writes:
>
>   Sounds possible to me, and wouldn't surprise me if it happens that
>   way.  If either MD or DCC does catch on, my bet would be on DCC, for
>   reasons of (semi-)compatibility.  50% of the music sold in the UK is on
>   prerecorded cassettes (CC), which would seem to imply that there are a
>   lot of people out there with large CC libraries.  
>
>This is not quite all the story. Although most sales are still on
>compact cassette it is thought that people buy them on impulse because
>they are cheap and convenient;

True, but they still already own a lot of them.  My guess isn't based
on the idea that they'll want to keep buying CCs because they are cheap
and loveable, but that they will want to be able to keep on playing the
bunch that they already own.  

>It's impossible to predict what's going to happen.

Certainly true.  (If I could, I wouldn't be doing computing for a
living, now, would I? :-)  My guess is just that, my guess.  Though it
is the one I'd put my money on IF someone were to come along and force
me to bet on one or the other.  Since that's not likely, I plan to be
one of the fence-sitters, myself.  Don't feel the need for yet another
audio medium at the moment.  Video/multi, maybe -- like if someone will
come up with a multi-format player which will handle all of laserdiscs, 
CD-I, CD-V, Kodak 'photo-disc' CD, ...  That would suck some cash out
of my pocket, quick enough. :-)

-- 
Paul Smee, Computing Service, University of Bristol, Bristol BS8 1UD, UK
 P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk - ..!uunet!uknet!bsmail!p.smee - Tel +44 272 303132
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From: trw@spl1.spl.loral.com (Tim R Witort)
Subject: Re: Need Advice
Organization: Loral Software Productivity Laboratory
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:36:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.210635.10926@shearson.com>, bprisco@shearson.com (Bobby Prisco) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> I'm looking for some input on cassette recorders/players. I'm interested in single deck
|> system with 3 heads (around $700. range). Any advice would be very much appreciated.

   I am obligated to recommend DAT. You can get a DAT deck for around
$600. No analog vs. digital flames please.

-- Tim
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From: dap@portal.vpharm.com (David A. Pearlman)
Subject: Re: Sony's CD advertising
Organization: Vertex Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:39:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.151145.25486@bilver.uucp> bill@bilver.uucp 
(Bill Vermillion) writes:
>
>
>The American music appetite seemed to want a way to put music in their
>cars.   The 45 rpm players for the cars never caught on, but they were
>available as a factory installed option from Chrysler corporation.


Do you know more about this? I'm curious about how they worked? Did
they use an effective mass of a kg to keep the records
from skipping when you drove over potholes? :-)

These are not the hip-pocket discs that Philco used, right? I assume
those were available in Fords at some point?

On the subject of portable record players, do people remember the
Sony record "walkmen" that they made briefly in the early '80's? Did
anyone ever actually buy one? 

dap
-- 
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    David A. Pearlman

Vertex Pharmaceuticals Inc.                     email: dap@vpharm.com
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From: eeh@gasco.uucp (Eric Hutchinson x1589)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Stereo TV to Stereo Causing a hummmmmmmm
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:21:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: gasco.1992Sep10.162158.27695
Organization: Northwest Natural Gas, Portland, OR

Looking for options to a problem before I run nuts and do something 
on my own.

I have a Mitsubishi stereo tv and want to connect to my stereo 
system for the improved sound.  The receiver is an NAD 7140, speakers 
are Magnapan (MGIIB?).  I am using the output RCA jacks on the TV and the
input to the AUX on the receiver.  I get a humm that gets louder as you 
increase the volume.  It doesn't seem to matter if the TV volume is down
and stereo up or TV up and stereo volume down. The receiver is in a 
cabinet next to the stereo with the left speaker three feet to the left
of the stereo and the right speaker 3 feet to the right of the TV.

I'm using 16ga for the speakers but the RCA cords aren't much.  Could 
this be the problem?  The local audio store immediately tried to get me to
buy some heavier gauge RCA connectors without really explaining why I 
needed them.  I've got a Mitsubishi Stereo VCR that I'd really like to get 
more use out of.  Can't afford the high-end surround sound yet (someday soon).
I'd appreciate any input.

Thanks, 
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