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From: kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Cal Woes (long)
Date: 12 Jan 93 01:59:44 GMT
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In article <1993Jan11.230237.29878@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.204732.8775@odin.corp.sgi.com> kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey) writes:
>>In article <XJAM.93Jan9004438@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU> xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer) writes:
>>>
>>In the next article:
>>>Well Ken thanks for explaining how in the world Cal could lose to two poor
>>>excuses for Division I programs. (JMU has subsequently lost to American
>>>University and Cornell is Ivy League for goodness sake). I've been on
>>>vacation so I can't do my typical ranting about how Campanelli can't coach
>>>but I have two words that typify my feelings on his style:
>>>
>>>Billy Dreher
>>
>I'm the Ken who Crossjammer was responding to in that article. 

Oops.  Sorry about that Ken :-)

>One of the big knocks on Campanelli is that players burn out playing
>for him, playing worse at the end of their careers than the beginning.
>Dreher is a prime example; two years ago, as a Sophmore transfer,
>he lead the Pac-10 by hitting 47% of his three-point shots and 
>showed good ball-handling skills.  Last year he lost his shooting
>touch at the beginning of the year, became tentative, and ended up
>getting little playing time on a struggling team.  This year he 
>didn't even come out for the team, saying he felt very little
>support from the coaching staff.  The question is why he isn't
>out there this year, providing some senior leadership and outside
>shooting. 

I see.  He contracted "Ryan Drew's" disease.
Ryan was a terrific 3-pt shooter in is first year at Cal.
The next 3 years, he would come out at miss 5 of his first 6 shots
and Campanelli would *then* pull him out of the game.

Dreher's fall-off wasn't as bad as Drew's.  I don't know the whole
story, but I bet that Billy Dreher quit because he knew he would
be riding the bench behind Kidd, Haase, and Roberts.
I don't blame the coach when players lose their shooting ability.

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From: Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan)
Subject: Re: Who's Number 2?
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:19:27 GMT

Steve Maher:

> Tell me WHY a 2-loss Indiana team is rated above BOTH North Carolina and
> Kansas???  ESPECIALLY since KU beat them out there?  I think Kansas got 
> unfairly hammered by the CNN/USAT poll...

Good question.

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From: tsatsoul@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Request for Purdue box scores
Date: 6 Jan 93 10:47:54 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I am teaching a course in Data Structures, and as a first project for my
class I want them to write a program that reads in individual game box scores
and then creates player statistics for the season.

So:

Can someone please email me all/any/many Purdue box scores?

--- Costas Tsatsoulis
tsatsoul@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
From: maxwellar@cc.uvcc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: WAC Powers
Date: 6 Jan 93 00:57:41 GMT
Organization: Utah Valley Community College

From this weekend's games between four of the WAC powers 
I draw some conclusions...

New Mexico starts road trips slowly and end up playing over
their heads...
(lost first game by 33 and the second by only 14)

UTEP starts road trips out with a bang and then ends
the trip with less intensity...
(lost first game by only 7 and lost second game by 21)

Utah always catches teams at their worst...

BYU always catches teams at their best...

arthur
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From: lewism@jmb2.jmb.com (Mike Lewis)
Subject: Re: The (updated) Saga of Bobby Knight
Organization: JMB Realty Corporation
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:28:23 GMT

 	rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec) writes:
 
 >Since I first posted this several years ago, Bobby Knight has continued
 >to amaze us all and to rigorously defend his position as the biggest
 >asshole in college sports.  I've added some additional info at the
 >bottom, indicating where I'm unsure of dates or details; additional
 >information as always welcome, as I like to post this annually in
 >order to remind IU supporters that no matter how well their teams play,
 >and no matter how good their players may be, their coach is an
 >embarassment to their team, their school, and the Big Ten.

I'm a Purdue graduate with, seemingly, endless reasons to hate Bob Knight.  The
fact that I respect him more than any coach in the history of college
basketball instead should tell you something.

I'll tell you what would embarass me as an alumni: cheating.  Given the choice
between a clean doormat program and an outlaw superstar program at my alma
mater, I'll take the doormat program every time.  Nothing, and I mean *nothing*,
brings more dishonor upon an institution of higher learning than the discovery
of cheating in the athletic program.

Another thing that would bother me about my alma mater's basketball program is
if the coach was not in control of the situation.  Some schools bring in their
high school all-Americans and, pretty soon, the "inmates are running the
asylum".  I guess this is unavoidable in the NBA, but at my school I want to
have a program where *noone* is beyond the reach of the coach's discipline.  If
my team's superstar isn't playing to the coach's satisfaction, his ass should
be *benched*.  If said superstar doesn't like it, *tough*.  Transfer!

The final thing I want to rail about for a moment, and which has never been a
problem with IU, is on-court (and off-court) woofing.  Talking shit to opponents
and whining about calls to the officials does not reflect positively in any
way on a university.  At IU it doesn't happen, period.  What would especially
piss me off as an alumni would be my alma mater's players talking to the media
about how they were going to beat such-and-so team, and how that team really
isn't that good.  Especially if they then proceeded to get beat ;-)

So, Rich, my understanding is that Penn State runs a clean (albeit mediocre)
basketball program.  You should be proud of that fact; I would be.  What you
think you're accomplishing with this unseemly ranting about Bob Knight I
don't know, but one thing you'll never be able to do is make me ashamed of the
man or his behavior.  Amused, perhaps, but ashamed, never.


Mike Lewis (lewism@jmb2.jmb.com)
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From: Curt.Hill@launchpad.unc.edu (Curt Hill)
Subject: UNC Electronic Newsletter Startup
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:08:37 GMT

The time is now...

What I'm going to offer here is the chance for all you big Tarheel fans
(including Cliff, Orin, and Rob [Clough|MacK]) to sign up on the Official
Tar Heel Sports Electronic Newsletter.

What will you get:

   o Player profiles (snarfed from local papers and such)
   o Game summaries (with lots of whining at officials)
   o Interesting tidbits (which you might never hear...or care to)


All in an easy to read format (ASCII text) on your computer screen.


It'll likely go out every week or so, although I'll probably send something
out after every basketball game.


This is not a mailing list (moderated or otherwise).  Your address will be
in a special file and the goodies shipped out.  I will accept email from
folks who think they have something to share with everyone else and send it
out if I deem it appropriate.


Note this caveat upfront:  No whining about the service.  If you do, I'll
ask you how much I'm charging per subscription.  I'll do the best I can,
but this is a service, not a job.


The focus of this list will be basketball for now.  I'll be adding other
sports to it as necessary and will post to the appropriate groups when that
happens.


I've already got about 20 names on an introductory list.  If you know I
have your name, no need to send email, you'll be included.  Other folks are
welcome to send me email at:

chill%star3@mcnc.org


The first issue will contain a nice interview with Hubert Davis and his life
in New York.


Thanks

Curtis

(PS  Cliff, don't worry, the volume of ACC coverage will remain high.  I
won't stop posting game summaries, but I won't be posting long, descriptive
articles describing Montross' latest haircut snip-by-snip.)


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From: suffridge@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Rick.Suffridge)
Subject: Re: Dean Smith (Re: UNC TARHEELS--1992/93
Organization: NCR MCPD Columbia SC.
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 20:43:34 GMT

dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com (David Head) writes:
: >
: >I remember the year that UCLA had Lew Alcindor (during his sophomore
: >year) and UNC had Rusty Clark (a 6'11" center).  We UNC fans were excited 
: >about the possibility of UNC meeting UCLA in the NCAA playoffs that 
: >year. Guess what happened?  Of course, UNC disintegrated somewhere in 
: >the NCAA playoffs to an underdog team.  Brother!  And Dean Smith looked
: >befuddled on the sidelines.  What a heartbreaking experience.
: >
:  
: Could this have been the year that Florida State came out of nowhere to make
: it to the NCAA finals?  I know FSU played UCLA for the NC in (I think) 1971
: and lost by 5 points.  Did they go through UNC to get there?
: 

 Fla State went to the finals in 1972.  They beat Kentucky in the regional
 finals to get to the final 4 in Adolph Rupp's last game.  Since Alcindor
 played from '67 to '69 this is not the year the original poster was talking
 about.
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fallen in 100 days. "Now it's our turn here in the United States," he said.
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From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Jalil Roberts lights it up...
Date: 4 Jan 1993 17:34:09 GMT
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Wisconsin's OTHER recruit, Jalil Roberts, scored 50 points to lead St.
Anthony's to a big win over an undefeated team (can't remember the name) a
few nights ago. Roberts was the MVP of a tourney about a month ago that had
some big name players in it and has apparently played great this year. I can
just see it in my dreams now...Rashard, Jalil, Finley, Webster and McGee
running up and down the court to the tune of about 90 points a game next
year. 

(Dream sequence now off)...Anyway, things are looking up for Badger fans
(although UWM's still the best in the state :)  ) 

--salty

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From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: Re: Georgia Tech over Duke by 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: Florida State University Department of Know-it-alls
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 03:21:54 GMT

In article <1iqampINNm09@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> metzler@pablo.physics.lsa.umich.edu (Chris Metzler) writes:
>Helluva game, folks!
>
>What did people think?  I was very impressed with Travis Best.
>I was not very impressed with any of the Dookies but Grant Hill.
>He had a good game, but I don't think as great as the announcers
>seemed to think.  Sometimes it seemed like they'd heap praise
>on him if he burped, but that's my opinion.

In today's (Sunday) Atlanta Journal, sports writer Mark Bradley made a 
prediction for this game. He said the score would be Tech over Duke, 81-80!
Sign this guy up for Vegas.

Seriously. This was a very exciting game, filled with lots of great players.
Of the Tech'ers, I was most impressed by the heroics of Barry (sp?). He almost
single handedly took that game with his plays. Grant Hill was, well, amazing.
Some of the shots he made I simply refused to believe...but I don't think he
should ever try another 3 point shot again. Bobby Hurley has to have the
biggest set of eggs in the NCAA...he is tough. Both these teams will go far
in the NCAA tourney.

>
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Kevin
From: lanier@acpub.duke.edu (Dustin Lanier)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: ACC basketball
Date: 5 Jan 93 20:51:30 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

I'm on vacation in Germnay so I don't get any news, but I do have access to
a terminal, so could some kind hearted ACC fan out there please mail me the
results of what has happened in ACC ball since december 28th?  Especially
Duke, UNC, and Florida State, with as much info on hte UNC Michigan and
Duke Oklahoma game as possible ... this is very frustrating for a diehard
fan not to know what is going on!! :)

email please, my newsreader seems to act up with me in germany and all ...

Dustin
lanier@acpub.duke.edu
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From: kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers)
Subject: Re: Virginia under, FSU over.
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:44:51 GMT

UVa now up to #20 or so--underrated is the last thing I'd
call the Cavs with their schedule.  I don't see much news
but looking at their schedule, I can see they've beaten Alabama
and FSU at home, plus a depleted NCSU on the road and, er, uh
Radford?  Winthrop? 

Fortunately, Coach Jones didn't have to cry in the shower, and 
I'm happy to see my home town boys doing well, but I think
it's a little early to be talking underrated.  The paltry news
we get out here makes it sound like Cory Alexander is the
whole show--what's the deal? 

Ken B.
From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: RPI rankings   1/9/93
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:05:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1993Jan12.094105.26164@ennews.eas.asu.edu>, paul@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Greg Paul) writes:
> Rnk. Name                   RPI     W  L   OW  OL   OOW  OOL  F1    F2    F3
>  1. Michigan               0.7171 12  1   89  30   682  487  0.923 0.748 0.583
>  2. Duke                   0.7098 10  0   71  29   512  395  1.000 0.710 0.564
>  3. Kentucky               0.7040 11  0   65  34   601  395  1.000 0.657 0.603
>  4. Arizona                0.6978  7  2   65  19   476  342  0.778 0.774 0.582


 Geez and I thought I was biased. How do they get this? Arizona at #4? I
can't imagine a way to come out with Arizona at #4. #14 maybe but #4? I
hate to say it but I suspect Arizona will be lucky to finish in the
top-20 of most polls by the end of the season. I could be wrong but I
find it hard to believe that Arizona can be considered better than 
UNC, Indiana, Kansas by anyone for any reason..... strange world...


			gln
From: xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Cal Woes (long)
Date: 12 Jan 93 01:03:40
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In-reply-to: kubey@sgi.com's message of 12 Jan 93 01:59:44 GMT

>>>>> "Ken" == Ken Kubey <kubey@sgi.com> writes:

  Ken> I see.  He contracted "Ryan Drew's" disease.
  Ken> Ryan was a terrific 3-pt shooter in is first year at Cal.
  Ken> The next 3 years, he would come out at miss 5 of his first 6 shots
  Ken> and Campanelli would *then* pull him out of the game.

  Ken> Dreher's fall-off wasn't as bad as Drew's.  I don't know the whole
  Ken> story, but I bet that Billy Dreher quit because he knew he would
  Ken> be riding the bench behind Kidd, Haase, and Roberts.
  Ken> I don't blame the coach when players lose their shooting ability.

Well, I normally wouldn't blame the coach either but let's rewind the tape
and go to last year's Stanford game at the Coliseum. Dreher has indeed been
in a slump. He's on the bench. Fine. Cal is getting blown out. Who's on the
floor tossing up bricks, and playing miserably? Kyle Campanelli. It seems
to me that garbage time is the perfect time to give a guy in a slump a
chance to play and get some confidence back. But nooooooo. Not a single
minute if I do remember correctly. How's that for player development. And
it must have been a pretty radical disagreement because Dreher gave up his
last year of eligibility *period*. Last chance to play big time organized
ball and the guy walks. 

Dreher would have probably started if he'd stayed since nobody new how good
Haase was going to be. Meanwhile, DeShon Brown jets out of the program too
(although that was more of a nut case if you ask me), and K. J. Roberts has
to be headed for this years non-development award. Toss in Lamond Murray's
trip to the doghouse and I think you can see why I complain about
Campanelli so much. And I haven't even begun to talk about x's and o's...

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From: jeffy@cray.com (Jeffrey Neau)
Subject: Re: CNN/USA Today Rankings (1/11)
Keywords: rankings
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:14:43 CST

In article <1ise2rINNlc7@early-bird.think.com> krall@Think.COM (Tom Krall) writes:
>In article <C0oznt.768@babbage.ece.uc.edu>, saji@snert.ece.uc.edu (Sandeep  Aji) writes:
>|> 
>|>  I don't know if anybody posts these rankings on a regular basis. As it is
>|>  Monday morning and as the Bearcats have moved up in the rankings I am 
>|>  posting the current Top-25 rankings.
>|> 
>|> 
>|> 	USA TODAY /  CNN   TOP - 25  (Coaches Poll) (1/11/93)
>|> 	-----------------------------------------------------
>|> 
>|> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>|>        RANK	SCHOOL		RCD	POINTS		PRV
>|> 							RANK
>|> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>|> 	1.  	Kentucky	11-0	832(26)		(2)
>|> 	2.	Duke		10-1	798(5)		(1)
>|> *	3.	Michigan	12-1	787(2)		(3)
>|> *	4.	Indiana		13-2	720		(4)
>|> 	5.	Kansas		11-1	719(1)		(6)
>|> 	6.	North Carolina	12-1	689		(5)
>|> 	7.	Seton Hall	13-1	640		(7)
>|> 	8.	Georgia Tech.	9-1	606		(11)
>|> 	9.	Oklahoma	11-2	535		(10)
>|> 	10.	Arkansas	11-1	512		(13)
>|> 	11.	CINCINNATI	9-1	441		(16)
>|> 	12.	Arizona		7-2	404		(17)
>|> *	13.	Iowa		11-2	397		(8)
>|> 	14.	UCLA		10-3	373		(12)
>|> *	15.	Purdue		9-2	335		(9)
>|> 	16.	Connecticut	7-2	299		(19)
>|> 	17.	UNLV		6-1	272		(14)
>|> 	18.	Virginia	9-0	222		(--)
>|> *	19.	Michigan State	8-3	185		(15)
>|> 	20.	Georgetown	8-2	157		(18)
>|> 	21.	Florida State	9-5	120		(23)
>|> *	22.	Ohio State	9-2	97		(--)
>|> 	23.	Vanderbilt	11-3	96		(20)
>|> *	24.	Minnesota	10-1	92		(--)
>|> 	25.	Nebraska	11-3	83		(22)
>|> 
>
>Wow, 7 B10 schools in the top25 !!!!
>Are the B10 schools really this good ?
>Being a *major* Gopher fan, I am thrilled they are doing so well.
>Are they for real ? I didn't expected them to be very good this year.
>
>Go Gophs !!!!!
>-Tom
>|> 
>|> 
>|>   Aji
>|> 
>|> 
>|>   GO BEARCATS !!!!!!!!
>|> 
>|> -- 
>|>   | 	Sandeep A. Aji			| saji@thor.ece.uc.edu      |
>|>   |     University of Cincinnati   	| saji@hagar.ece.uc.edu     |
>|>   |        FINAL FOUR 1992              | 	                    |
>|>   |                                     | 			    |

Their rankings will fall a bit when they start beating up on each other more...

Jeff

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From: marek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marek Lugowski)
Subject: Re: Duke-Oklahoma Game Summary
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:27:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.162416.27973@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
burgin@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Robert Burgin) writes:

>	How do other top teams compare?  Indiana lost to non-conference
>	foe Kansas at home this year, for example.

Er, minor nitpicking:  IU played KU at Hoosier Dome, not Assembly Hall in
Bloomington, that spectacularly intimidating cave built especially for
bball and useless for everything else.  If IU were to play Team Lapland in
the scenic Gary, Indiana or, gasp, West Lafayette -- would it still be a
home game for IU?  Just because people are rooting for you does not mean
you are playing at home.  The acoustics are all different, your sense of
spatial positioning is different, the lighting, even the give of the rims.
Plus no travel and the yummy deep-fried dorm food...

				-- Marek

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From: burgin@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Robert Burgin)
Subject: Re: Duke-Oklahoma Game Summary
Summary: Duke's Home Non-Conference Streak
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:24:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.153420.8799@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.230426.21800@samba.oit.unc.edu>  
>Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan) writes:
>> > Duke ran it's non-conference home winning streak to 77 games Monday
>> > night,  holding off an emotional Oklahoma squad 88-84 in overtime.
>> 
>> That streak is amazing.

	Exactly how amazing is it?

	Does anyone know if it is the longest current non-conference
	home winning streak?  If it is the longest ... ever?

	How do other top teams compare?  Indiana lost to non-conference
	foe Kansas at home this year, for example.  When was the last
	non-conference home loss by Kansas?  Kentucky?  UNC?  Michigan?

	--rb
From: urogue@mcl.ucsb.edu (Dave Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Kareem on ESPN
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:48:55 GMT

On monday night, Kareem Abdul Jabbar made his broadcasting debut on ESPN
covering UCSB's 77 - 57 win over Alabama-Birmingham.  How was he?  I didn't
get to see him, since I was at the game.
From: gil.levitch@tfd.coplex.com (Gil Levitch) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Kentucky over Indiana
Date: 6 Jan 93 23:15:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ky/In PC User's Group - Louisville, KY - 502-423-8654
Reply-To: gil.levitch@tfd.coplex.com (Gil Levitch) 


Wes Morgan said:
WM>My mother's comment on the game:  "I don't care if they lose every game from
WM>here on out -- they beat Louisville and Indiana!"

Shame on you, Wes. AND your mother. <grin> Denny said he'd even eat at
Patino's the next time he's in Lexington. It's Patino that won't play
golf with Denny at Vahalla.

As an afternote, have you noticed how quiet Bobby Knight has been on the
bench this year? You think he's ON something?

.....Gil

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