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From: simpson@bnr.ca (Scott Simpson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Stanley Cup Question
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:31:35 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada

In article <13170@icarus> banner@icarus ( banner@semi.mitel.com ) writes:
>After hearing all the stories about the Stanley Cup in the
>past while I have a couple of questions:

Coincidentally, the Senators' magazine "Bodycheck" has this info in it this 
month.

>-Does the real Stanley Cup ever leave the Hockey Hall of Fame? (When
>I say real I mean the one whose "bowl" was the original trophy donated
>by Lord Stanley...) What about ceremonial functions ( awards night etc.)?

The real Stanley Cup (apparently) only leaves the Hall of Fame to have the 
new Cup winners' names scratched on it.  The replica is used for all other
functions.

>-When was the replica cup first made? Is that the cup awarded/carried/
>abused/etc/etc to the champs?

It would appear 1949 is the magic inception date of the replica.  And yes, 
the replicca is the one the players carry around.

>-Any idea what the appraised value of the original and replica is?
>Priceless perhaps?

The original was bought by Captain Corville (one of Lord Stanley's aides)
in 1893 for a whopping $48.66 Cdn.  No-one can estimate it's present
value, but in 1974 it was insured for $50 000.

And, just to be annoying, here are more Cup facts:

  o  From 1893 to 1924, only the team names were engraved on the cup, but
     in 1924 the Habs broke with tradition and put the player's names on the 
     cup (a tradition which, of course, continues today)

  o  Each new ring on the cup has room for 13 teams

  o  Last year, the NHL decided to remove the top ring of 1928-1940 winners
     (which is now in the Hall of Fame) and a new ring was placed on the 
     bottom for winners until 2005, then the 1941-53 ring will be removed, etc.

  o  Carl Petersen and his son Arno engraved the cup from 1949-79.  Doug 
     Buffey of Montreal has done it since.

  o  The NHL paid Buffey $460 in 1988 to do the cup (Petersen got $27.50 back
     in the late forties)

  o  It takes Buffey eight hours to do the work, the Petersens took three

  o  The cup is only polished about once every five years, so as not to rub
     off any names

  o  Each letter is sunk 1/32 000th of an inch into the silver

  o  Each team gets about 17 square inches of space to put their names in

  o  The 1990 Oilers hold the record for getting 46 names in this space


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From: mfoster@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu (Marc Foster)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: RE: righty vs. lefty goalie
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:45:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: constell.1992Oct14.014541.18704
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK
Originator: news@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu

From: kevin@sherman.pas.rochester.edu (kevin mcfadden)

<	Ok all you goaltenders out there, I have got a question for you.
<I play out of net left handed so therefore, when I play in net my
<stick is in the wrong hand to use easily with the gloves (or the
<gloves are on the wrong hand to use the stick easily...)  Anyway,
<my glove hand is only a little inferior on the right hand than it is
<on the left, and only because I can't afford left handed equipment!
<Plus, when I play lefty the crouch is very uncomfortable with the
<stick in my left hand.

Let me get this straight:  You're right handed, and goalie with the left
being your glove-hand and the right your stick-hand, yes?

	<So what would be easier?  Playing goalie lefty with proper equipment,
<thereby allowing me to handle the puck easier, or to just stick it out
<righty and make due with one handed righty passes?  Any other goalies
<out there experience this?

I'm right handed and goalie the way I stated above.  My puck handling isn't
the greatest, but I can manage to grip the stick with the glove hand to 
make feeble passes.  Having a curve-handled Christian goalie stick helps.

<	AND, if I can play hockey lefty, why can't I swing a golf club or
<baseball bat just as easily?  As far as baseball is concerned I tried
<switch hitting for a whole summer and it was still awkward.  Gotta
<love these lefty/righty brain things!

It's just awkward, but you can learn...

<Kev

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From: 900073s@dragon.acadiau.ca (Donald Smith)
Subject: Re: Imponderables/ULF!
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:29:26 GMT

Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>>Considering the new news on Neely's injury I hope more hockey players
>>realize that Ulf still does have perfectly healthy knees.  Someone needs
>>to put him in the hospital for a few years.

>It's stupid comments like this that give hockey fans a bad name.  And
>then when Player A puts Ulf in the hospital, someone will say Player A should
>be put in the hospital.  And so on and so on.  
  
   Not at all...  In fact, I'd be the first to Congratulate Player A...
Neely is one of *3* players that Ulf has screwed over...  
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From: johann@jester.usask.ca (James Johannesson,E1 Admin,x6763,0000000)
Subject: Re: Where is Darcy Wakaluk?
Originator: johann@jester.usask.ca
Reply-To: johann@jester.usask.ca
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:04:34 GMT

From article <1992Oct12.165304.29680@pixel.kodak.com>, by kiley@eksignal.kodak.com (Paul Kiley):
>     I know that Darcy Wakaluk had a tryout with Tampa this year, but 
> I haven't seen his name turn up in game summaries.
>     Is he still with Tampa?  Is he in Atlanta?
>     Any help will be appreciated.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Paul
> ------------------------
> kiley@eksignal.kodak.com

As far as I know, Darcy is fighting Jon Casey still for the number 1 
goalie position in Minnesota... he even started the Stars first
game this year against the Blues (and lost :-()... I hope he keeps playing..
I have him in a draft... :-)

Later...
James Johannesson
(johann@jester.usask.ca)
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From: david@eng.umd.edu (David Chi-Chung Lu)
Subject: Re: Miller
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 03:06:48 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Oct8.002008.12729@leland.Stanford.EDU> claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>"Miller" was listed as having had an assist in last night's game between
>the Washington Capitals and the Toronto Maple Leafs, in the box scores.  Does
>someone know if that's Kelly or Kevin Miller?

Since the goal was by Alan May (?!?!) and the other assist was to Paul
Macdermid, I'll guess that it was Kevin.  Those 3 are the 4th line.
And if anyone cares, Kelly was wearing "Miller" on his back and Kevin
had "K. Miller" on his.  Brilliant solution, eh?

Dave Lu
Organization: Administrative Systems, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 08:15:16 -0400 
From: "James J. Murawski" <jjm+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Penguins 6, Sabres 5


On 14-Oct-92 in Penguins 6, Sabres 5 (1592)  
user                                 writes:
>	PITTSBURGH (UPI) -- Mario Lemieux recorded his second five-point game
>of the early season Tuesday night and the Pittsburgh Penguins outgunned
>the Buffalo Sabres, 6-5.
>	The crowd of 15,575 spent much of its time glued to transistor
>radios, listening for results of the Pirates-Braves playoff game from
>Atlanta. But the unbeaten Penguins, 2-0-2, still gave their fans plenty
>of reasons to cheer.

>	Buffalo led 4-3 midway through the second period, but the Penguins
>erupted for three goals in a span of 2:17 to pull ahead for good.

The strangest thing about the Pens quick three goals last night was that they
coincided with the Pirates 8-run 2nd inning.

Here it was 4-3, Buffalo, and half the Arena had their headset radios tuned
in to the Pirates game, and many others were watching the TV's in the super
boxes or press box through binoculars.

Barry Bonds hits a homer to make it 1-0.  The Arena erupts in cheers (and it
really was out of place, since the play on the ice didn't warrant a cheer at
the time).  10 seconds later, the scoreboard gave the baseball score and the
place erupted in cheers again.  1/2 of a minute later, Jaromir Jagr scored
to tie the Pens game at 4-4 - place went crazy again.  Right after this, the
Pirates got two more runs on a double - cheers.  Score was posted - cheers.
Kevin Stevens scored - cheers.  Right after that, the Pirates got another run -
cheers.  Score was posted - cheers.  Larry Murphy scored - cheers.  All of this
happened within about 5 minutes of real time.  It was wierd.

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Subject: Flames roster
From: caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:51:46 MDT
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta

Here is the opening-night roster of the Calgary Flames:

#   Pos.   Name
-------------------------------------------------------
2    D     Al MacInnis
3    D     Frank Musil
4    D     Kevin Dahl
5    D     Chris Dahlquist
7    D     Michel Petit
10   LW    Gary Roberts
11   LW    Gary Leeman
14   RW    Theoren Fleury
15   D     Roger Johansson
16   LW    Craig Berube
18   D     Trent Yawney   (out 6 weeks with broken clavicle)
20   D     Gary Suter
21   D     Alexander Godynyuk
22   RW    Ron Stern
25   C     Joe Nieuwendyk
27   RW    Tomas Forslund
28   LW    Paul Ranheim
29   C     Joel Otto
30   G     Mike Vernon
31   G     Jason Muzatti
32   RW    Chris Lindberg
33   C     Carey Wilson
35   G     Jeff Reese
42   RW    Sergei Makarov
??   D     Alexander Yudin

The Flames have 10 defencemen and only 12 forwards on the roster, so there is
great possibility of a move, preferably for a big winger with a physical 
presence.

								Alan
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From: kiley@eksignal.kodak.com (Paul Kiley)
Subject: Where is Darcy Wakaluk?
Originator: kiley@adder
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 16:53:04 GMT

    I know that Darcy Wakaluk had a tryout with Tampa this year, but 
I haven't seen his name turn up in game summaries.
    Is he still with Tampa?  Is he in Atlanta?
    Any help will be appreciated.

Thank you.

Paul
------------------------
kiley@eksignal.kodak.com
From: ma71780@cs.tut.fi (Asumaa Mika Tapani)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Chris Kontos in Ilves (WAS Re: OJANEN/RUUTTU?)
Date: 16 Oct 1992 14:51:00 GMT
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ruskorastas.cs.tut.fi

In article <1992Oct15.112547.1703@tac.fi> tiot_kk@tac.fi (Kimmo Kauranen) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.133801.1@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi>, hahietanen@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi writes:
>> PS. I think that Chris Kontos played here for Ilves (Tampere) some years ago.
>>     His credit was something like 16 goals in 44 games (?). He wasn't
>>     any 'superstar', but I think that the management was quite satisfied
>>     with his performance.
>>
>
>Yes, Kontos played in Ilves about 4-5 years ago. He did not play very well,
>but satisfactionally. At the same time there was another Canadian in Ilves,
>Dale Derkatch. Dale was short, but very good shooter. He played 2 or 3 years,
>but left then to Germany.

Chris Kontos played for Ilves in 1985-86.  Another Canadian in Ilves
at the same time was Jordy Douglas (1985-87).  Dale Derkatch (1986-89) came 
one year later to replace Kontos.
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From: popovich@cs.columbia.edu (Steve Popovich)
Subject: Re: Pens Uniforms
Organization: Columbia University
	<1992Oct8.151228.29869@sei.cmu.edu>
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 01:12:27 GMT

> I don't think the away jerseys were copied from the Rangers.  When I went to
> the Penguin Carnival this past summer, they had a memorabilia booth and there
> were old jerseys on display.  I recall seeing a jersey with Pittsburgh going
> down the jersey diagonally and it was blue and white.  I can't remember what
> year it was from.  Anyone?

That was the original 1967 sweater, and it was copied from the
Rangers.  They must have figured as long as they were going to stock a
team with a bunch of ex-Rangers, they might as well take the sweater
design too :-).
	-Steve
From: rich@quik.clearpoint.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Bob Sweeny becomes a Sabre
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:28:29 GMT
Reply-To: rich@jasmine.clearpoint.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Clearpoint Research Corp, Hopkinton MA 01748


The Sabres may be laughing now, but they won't when it comes to crunch time.
Bruins fans have been watching him for some time now, and we can tell you
he's nothing more then a flash in the pan. I've seen him score six goals in 
three games including a hat trick in one of them, and then do nothing for 20 
games after that. He's a stiff!! Sorry to be so blunt. He was nothing but
inconsistant in Boston and maybe the move to the Sabres will salvage his
career. What I am saying is don't get your hopes up on him yet. He did the same
thing in Boston, and he might do it again in Buffalo.

Rich
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:34:25 EDT
From: <WJS116@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: If I were Neil Smith...
 <92288.192637WJS116@psuvm.psu.edu> <1992Oct15.160006.4139@draco.macsch.com>

Please excuse my mistake--I wasn't aware that Vachon was replaced as GM.  I
still think that Luc could go, given the right offer.  Then Rangers have
never been too reluctant to trade away young talent.  They have more depth
than most teams, and with Koualeu's arrival, they could afford to part with
one or more younger stars.  Consider this, if you will.  The Rangers need a
scoring left winger.  Badly.  They do, however, have a ton of great centers
and goalies.  The Kings are in need of a facelift.  I'm talking major
overhaul.  Gretzky's in the hospital.  'Edmonton south' just isn't working.
It's time the unload some of the dead weight.  Names like Jay Miller, Dave
Talyor, Charlie Huddy, Tim Watters, etc...plauge the LA roster.  Others,
like Kurri and McSorley have seen better days.  They're odd.  Even the
venerable Paul Coffey may have to hang of the skates in a few years.  The
Kings also really need a backup goalie.  To top it all off, Robatille is in
his prime, ripe for trading.  What if the Rangers offered, say, Doug Weight,
Vanbiesbrouck, and James Patrick for Robatille, Kurri, and Steve Weeks.
You may think this is crazy.  Maybe you're right, but think of this- the
Rangers can now put out two big offensive lines-Messier, Kurri, Robatille,
and Turcotte, Amonte, Graves.  Mike Richter is free to step up as #1 goalie
with Weeks as a fairly capable backup.  Back in LA, Weight combines with
the other centers to form a strong nucleus to build upon in the post-
Gretzky years.  Patrick provides both offensive and defensive skill from
the blueline and together with Coffey, gives LA some more scoring punch
form the defense.  Beezer and Hrudey then become the most capable tandem
in the league, and lightening the workload could prolong both netminders'
careers.  On a final note, all of this conjecture is pointless anyway, because
it's the Penguins, not the Rangers of Kings, who will win the Cup this
season
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From: romano@monolith.bellcore.com (Paul C. Romano)
Subject: RANGERS NEWS: Roster moves/current roster
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 14:13:31 GMT


	The NY RANGERS announced that defensemen Per Djoos & Sergei
Zubov have been sent down to the AHL affiliate Binghamton. This 
reduces their current roster to 25 players, which includes:


Forwards:

	Mark Messier		Adam Graves	Tony Amonte
	Sergei Nemchinov	Jan Erixon	Alexei Kovalev
	Darren Turcotte		Kris King	Mike Gartner
	Doug Weight		Joe Kocur	Paul Broten
	Randy Gilhen		Phil Bourque	Tie Domi
	Dave Archibald

Defensemen:

	Brian Leetch		Jeff Beukeboom	Mark Hardy
	James Patrick		Joe Cirella	Peter Anderson
	Jay Wells

Goaltenders:

	John VanBiesbrouck	Mike Richter

Paul
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From: MXE110@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: DEFENSEMEN
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:03:55 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

What do you people think about the NJ Devils pick Scott Niedermayer?  Word
has it that he may very well be the next 'King of the Defensemen'.  Let me
know your thoughts on this guy. Does he have what it takes?
He played for the Kamloops Blazers and the Canadian national junior team.
He was great in Kamloops, but will he make it big here?
I think so.    What do you people think?
Matt
From: dale@cs.mun.ca (Dale Fraser)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Maple Leaf Gardens
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:47:32 GMT
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland

parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:

>In article <BvoGz8.L1u@acsu.buffalo.edu> v165nqxp@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Joe Mikolic) writes:
>>I've finally been able to get tickets for regular season Leafs game.
>>However, the only tickets I could get were standing room only. Could
>>anybody familiar with Maple Leaf Gardens give some advice on where to
>>stand in the Gardens?  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>Joe Mikolic

>The Leafs sell out? Is this some kind of sick joke?
>I am quite serious. Nothing against the Leafs especially,
>but they've been so awful for so long that it's hard to believe
>that seats would be worth anything.

From what I have heard from friends in Toronto, it is almost impossible
to get tickets. Apparently, they are sold out for every game. Strange
since they can't win.

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From: "allan canney" <allan.canney@canrem.com>
Subject: number
Reply-To: "allan canney" <allan.canney@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:53:23 EST

-> A friend of mine (hi, Choo!) wants to put Manon Rheaume's name and
-> number on her Lightning jersey.  Does anyone remember what number she
-> wore in that exhibition game?
->
-> thx
-> gak

She wore # 33
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:39:20 EDT
From: Mike Rapach <MCR114@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject:    Pens Uniforms

Hi folks. I was watching the game on Tue night, and the first thing that came t
o mind was "God, those uniforms are ugly."  The diamond thing on the shoulders
is what does it.  It's just not as sleek or stylish as the old version.  I real
ly wish they would have reconsidered this before the season started. I can live
 with the logo (barely) but the uniforms are bad.

                                                 Mike
From: chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Jarmo Myllys & European Goalies
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:10:01 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

mattb@ctron.com (Matt Brown) writes:
>1) It is difficult to tell if they have been given equal chances.

Without generalizing, Jarmo was given every chance to win the position with
the Sharks and just couldn't do it. He played himself off the team. Had
moments of brilliances, and instances where he turned into a head case.
Personally, I was rooting for him. Lots of potential, but not better than
either Hackett or Irbe.

>   both Irbe and Trefilov are in the minors this year,
>   for example).

Irbe's in the minors only until the Sharks figure out what to do with
Hayward. Better that he plays every day than charts in the press box.
I wouldn't be surprised if Irbe was up here by Christmas (probably before)
and does 20-30 games.

The Sharks have to let Hayward either play himself onto the team (or into a
situation where he can be traded) or off (where he can be waived or
retired). So far, he's doing a pretty good job of convincing me the Sharks
should eat his contract and bring up Irbe.

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From: tconnors@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Tim Connors )
Subject: Pronounciation
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 13:26:25 GMT

 I hate it when I'm listening to a sports broadcast and some fool makes
a big-time error in pronouncing a sports stars name. Not unknown
players, thats to be expected, but not the stars. For example, I have

Rick Toe-shez (Rick Tocchet)
Luke Robe-it-all (Luc Robitaille)
Dino Chickarello (Dino Ciccerelli) 
AAnother thing that bothers me is when a french Canadian's name is
brutalized by an announcer. Like:

Clod (Claude)
Dennis (Denis)
Mike (Michel)
 
 An announcer should learn what he/she's talking about.

   tconnors@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
      Tim Connors