From: gerald@torolab4.vnet.ibm.com (Gerald Oskoboiny)
Subject: Re: THE DIVINE MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE
Originator: gerald@gerald
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:22:10 GMT
Reply-To: gerald@torolab4.vnet.ibm.com
Organization: Ministry of Noises

~From: gee@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (Thomas Gee)
~Newsgroups: alt.religion.computers
~Summary: meaningless drivel, both original and reply
~Date: 23 Sep 92 14:14:48 GMT
~Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine

In article <1992Sep21.160602.1300@cnsvax.uwec.edu> mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>                         CHRISTIANS ARE BEING DUPED!

panic: dup christian in block 15540

>               Most Christians would agree, and correctly so, that 
>          Jesus Christ was a perfect living Master, and a projection of 
>          God into the physical world, God Incarnate. 

Ah!	      God dot world
	JC =  ------------- * world	(Assuming world is in R^2)
	       |world|^2

>               First, Jesus Christ was NOT unique, John 3:16 NOTWITH-
>          STANDING.  There is ALWAYS at least one such perfect living 
>          Master (God Incarnate) PHYSICALLY ALIVE in this world AT ALL 
>          TIMES, a continuous succession THROUGHOUT HISTORY, both 
>          before and after the life of Jesus. 

So, if the incarnation is continuous, is it also differentiable?

>               The followers of some of these Masters founded the 
>          world's major religions, usually PERVERTING the teachings of 
>          their Master in the process.  Christians, for example, added 
>          THREATS of "ETERNAL DAMNATION" in Hell, and DELETED the 
>          teaching of REincarnation. 

cat gospel hell  | grep -v reincarnation > gospel	?

	(Except this fancy newfangled shell that I'm using doesn't let
	 me do this anymore.)

>               Secondly, and more importantly, after a particular 
>          Master physically dies and leaves this world, there is 
>          NOTHING that He can do for ANYbody except for the relatively 
>          few people that He INITIATED while He was still physically 
>          alive. 

Ah, because only his children know their ppid?

>               These things are similarly true for followers of most 
>          other major world religions, including Islam. 

But not those who worship at the feet of UNIX!  (Death to the VMS
infidels!)

>               One such perfect Master alive today is an American, Sri 
>          Harold Klemp, the Living "Eck" Master or "Mahanta" for the 
>          "Eckankar" organization, now headquartered in Minneapolis, 
>          (P.O. Box 27300;  zip 55427). 

Please make your cheques out to .....

>                                                          People would 
>          behave much better toward each other if they knew that their 
>          actions in the present will surely be reaped by them in the 
>          future, or in a FUTURE INCARNATION!

But if we didn't reap them, then they'd become zombies and just hang
around cluttering up kmem.

>          PLANES OF EXISTENCE

Backplanes of existence?

>               The physical universe is the LOWEST of AT LEAST a DOZEN 
>          major levels of existence.  Above the Physical Plane is the 

Data Link Plane

>          Astral Plane, the Causal Plane, the Mental Plane, the Etheric 
>          Plane (often counted as the upper part of the Mental Plane), 
>          the Soul Plane, and several higher Spiritual Planes

Including the Network Plane, the Transport Plane, the Session Plane,
the Presentation Plane, and --- the final ecstasy --- the Application
Plane.


>               It is likely that ESP, telepathy, astrological 
>          influences, radionic effects, biological transmutations [see 
>          the 1972 book with that title.], and other phenomena without 
>          an apparent physical origin,

including VDT radiation and the ability to remember the emacs
commands..

>          SOUND CURRENT vs. BLIND FAITH

vi vs. emacs

>               The "SOUND CURRENT" manifests differently for different 
>          Initiates, and can sound like a rushing wind, ocean waves on 
>          the sea shore, buzzing bees, higher-pitched buzzing sound, 
>          various heavenly music,

the Grateful Dead at 120 dB,

>	                             or other sounds.  In Eckankar, 
>          Members start hearing it near the end of their first year as 
>          a Member.  [I am a 2nd Initiate in Eckankar, and well into my 
>          5th year of Membership.]  This and other experiences (such as 
>          "SOUL TRAVEL") REPLACE blind faith. 

But when do you finally obtain emacs-competency?  8th initiate?
12th?  Give me hope!

>               UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this 
>          IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED. 

Well, perhaps slightly altered.

>                                            Robert E. McElwaine

alt.religion.COMPUTERS, Bob.  .COMPUTERS!
			      ^^^^^^^^^^^

Tom
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