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From: magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: RFD: comp.cs.undergrads
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Organization: DarkTower Software
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 21:52:01 CST

Andrew Kennedy (adk@dcs.ed.ac.uk) wrote:
: R E Q U E S T   F O R   D I S C U S S I O N
: -------------------------------------------

: This is a request for discussion on the creation of a newsgroup
: for worldwide Computer Science Undergraduates.

: Group Name
: ----------
: comp.cs.undergrads

: Notes
: -----

: *	Also not to be tolerated is swapping hints on so-called "cracking".

Duh.  Then why did they post it to alt.hackers?  Hacking certainly
isn't cracking, but you can bet they would frown on: mail and news
forgery, forging approvals, reverse engineering of programs, replacing
crystals to soup up your old 3B2's to a higher clock rate, and anything
else alt.hackers teaches you and any undergrad worth his salt should
know.

Sheesh.  Talking about taking the fun out of computing!  I guess if
you don't walk "the party line" you're not welcome there.  Is this
FidoNet or Internet?

<sigh>

-Louis

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Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: <unknown>
Subject: Hole-y smokes
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:26:20 GMT
 
   Exploring the net today, I chanced upon a system (to remain un-named) that 

had (and still has) the following entry in it's /etc/passwd file...... 

user::0:1:User:/user/user:/bin/csh

   I was quite shocked, I'd never seen that before on any machine connected 
to internet..... Just to be sure, I did a 

>su user
>whoami
root
>more /usr/adm/sulog
/usr/adm/sulog: No such file or directory
>cd /usr/adm
>vi messages
<deleted ROOT LOGIN ttyp1 FROM console>

   Neet-o, eh.....
From: magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: various stuff
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Organization: DarkTower Software
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 19:52:20 CST

: Hey, everyone.
: my hack was a decent Motif interface for SAS.
: I'm working on a SAS to Sybase interface.
: Anybody got any experience with using a serial port as a null modem.
: Is there a program out for exactly this purpose?
: Thanks,
: me

Dear me,

It's called a null modem cable.  You cross read and write lines.
Hack one up in 5 minutes yourself, or go to radio shack and buy the
connector for $5.

You use a null-modemed connection like any other connection, but unless
you specifically wire it, don't expect carrier detect or ring to
give you any info.

-Louis

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Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: lllowen@netcom.com (lllowen)
Subject: Re: Port list, kindly
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:29:55 GMT

petrilli@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Chris Petrilli) writes:
>Actually, the best place to look is the RFC published by the IANA
>(Internet Assigned Numbers Authority), it lists stuff that isn't even
>mentioned in the most complete /etc/services file.  You can find it on
>nic.ddn.mil.  Just grep for "assigned numbers".

Is there an RFC number associated with that?
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From: daffnelr@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Throatwarbler Mangrove)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Stupid macro tricks...
Date: 24 Jan 93 21:30:13 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Me? Organized? Psha!


  Hey.. anyone out there got really
ugly/complicated/elegant/interesting macros in any of their programs?
As for the ugly part, it seems that bit manipulations can get that
way very easily... Maybe we should have a contest for the ugliest
macro that works for its intended purpose (that you've actually used
in a program other than a test prog to see if it works..) Anyone got a
good macro story?

Obhack: the following macro.. Yeah, it's ugly, but it works.. x is a
pointer to a struct flags is a field of various flags or'd together, y
is a group of flags or'd together.. I want an expression that's true
iff NONE of the flags set in y are set in x->flags, so I did:

#define notplayer(x,y)        !(~(x->flags | ~(y)) ^ (y))

It gets called, for example, as notplayer(tmp, flags), where flags
would be (flags = TRAD|HUSHED) and I want it to be 0 unless both bits
are 0.

And if you can think of a simpler way to do it, let me know..
Laters..

   -Larry
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: sidewinder@uiuc.edu (Jeffrey S. Curtis)
Subject: Re: Port list, kindly
Originator: u1877@sparc10.cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:30:37 GMT

lllowen@netcom.com (lllowen) sez:
}Is there an RFC number associated with that?

Sure is.  RFC-1060.  Won't find it on the NIC as that, though - it's
in 'std/std2.txt'.

Jeff
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From: saxe@cs.unc.edu (Eddie Saxe)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Re: Port list, kindly
Date: 28 Jan 1993 11:11:40 -0500
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: degas.cs.unc.edu

In article <1993Jan28.004820.17416@netcom.com> rons@netcom.com (Ron Sires) writes:
|lllowen@netcom.com (lllowen) writes:
|
|>petrilli@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Chris Petrilli) writes:
|>>Actually, the best place to look is the RFC published by the IANA
|>>(Internet Assigned Numbers Authority), it lists stuff that isn't even
|>>mentioned in the most complete /etc/services file.  You can find it on
|>>nic.ddn.mil.  Just grep for "assigned numbers".
|
|>Is there an RFC number associated with that?
|
|It's RFC 1060.

Actually, RFC 1340 made 1060 obsolete.

Eddie
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From: victor.volkman@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Victor Volkman)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: STUPID QUESTION
Date: 21 Jan 93 07:21:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: HAL 9000 BBS, W-NET HQ, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Reply-To: victor.volkman@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Victor Volkman)

What in hell is an "ObHack", or for that matter "Ob*".

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From: saxe@cs.unc.edu (Eddie Saxe)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Re: Hello All!
Date: 26 Jan 1993 11:21:48 -0500
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
NNTP-Posting-Host: threonine.cs.unc.edu
Summary: What an idiot.

>Hello All!
>So, how do you like my automatic posting software?  Nice huh?
>
>Sorry, The SPA has recommended that I don't distribute it.
>
>GB

Yawn.  Let's look at some of the more relevant lines in the header:

-----
^^^^

Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523
-----

Better luck next time.

Eddie
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Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: murraya@ecf.toronto.edu (MURRAY ALEXANDER W)
Subject: School can be expensive (was Re: A first post)
Followup-To: alt.hackers,misc.test
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 06:32:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.023121.4787@orlith.bates.edu> Chuck D'Antonio writes:
>Obhack: Not computer related, but . . . my GPA???

I'll buy that as a hack, if you explain how you achieved your GPA, assuming
it was by some clever/extraordinary means...

Or did _you_ buy it? ;)

>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-  Apple II Forever  -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

When the last Apple ][ motherboard crumbles, there will still be someone
running some kind of DOS emulator (MS-DOS 24.3?  Just what we needed,
Microsoft...) running the Apple ][ emulator software (look on
ftp.cco.caltech.edu).  Gotta play that Bilestoad!  Er... Lunar Leepers,
anyone?

ObHack, small though it is:  Convincing Word-for-Windoze 1.1 to give me a
postscript file of my document that I could upload to our sparc's for
printing on our laserprinter:  install a postscript printer's drivers,
assign it to my (non-existant) lpt2: to activate the thing, and select
print-to-file.  Zzz.

Regards,
-- 
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MurrayA@ECF.Toronto.Edu, or SIZone!Alex@EE.Ryerson.Ca ._ _     _  _  _     _
______________________________________________________| | || || `| `'_||_|'_|__
"No sir, I didn't [write] it," disclaimed Mr. Horse.  | | |!_||  |  !_|._!!_|
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: shockwav@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca
Subject: whatever
Organization: University of New Brunswick, Fredericton, NB, Canada
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 01:00:00 GMT


Obhack:
Getting this account :) 

Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: kjartan@repulse.saclay.cea.fr
Subject: A RFC Hack
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:23:51 GMT
Organization: Chaos Rules

(I Really don't know whether the following qualifies as a hack
but it IS useful for hacking)

obHack:  Compiled all the important RFCs in a hyper-linked file on
my NeXT.  Want to get all the newest info on TFTP ? Click on a button
and its there *-}

-Kjartan
From: adk@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Andrew Kennedy)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Re: Hello All!
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:15:00 GMT
Reply-To: adk@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Andrew Kennedy)
Organization: Department of computer Science, Edinburgh University

In article <98052@ms.com> GB@ms.com (Gill Bates) writes:
                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
We obviously have a man of wit in our prescence.  Not!

>Hello All!
>So, how do you like my automatic posting software?  Nice huh?

No, not really.  How does it work?  What does it do?  What is so
"automatic" about it?  It appears to change the "Sender:" line.
Big deal.

> From alt.hackers Tue Jan 26 20:53:44 1993
> Path: dcs.ed.ac.uk!edcastle!uknet!mcsun!uunet!haven.umd.edu!darwin.sura.net!
> zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!yuma!ms.com!GB
                                                          ^^^^
That's your computer that is.

> From: GB@ms.com (Gill Bates)
> Newsgroups: alt.hackers
> Subject: Hello All!
> Message-ID: <98052@ms.com>
> Date: 25 Jan 93 19:21:00 GMT
> Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account)
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
See that?  You used that computer to post this, you did.
   
> Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

That's your University that is.

> Lines: 6
> Approved: Yes
> Nntp-Posting-Host: ms.com

>Sorry, The SPA has recommended that I don't distribute it.

Perhaps because it's rubbish.  Please try harder next time, you colorado
university student, you.

And no, I'm not anonymous.  Who cares?

ObHack: Writing a replacement for ping(8) - well, a front-end really, 
that gave much friemdlier messages, and had more options, like a 
sarcastic mode, and a "sultans of ping" mode....

Look out on alt.sources :-) 
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From: magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: STUPID QUESTION
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Organization: DarkTower Software
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 10:23:25 CST

Victor Volkman (victor.volkman@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us) wrote:
: What in hell is an "ObHack", or for that matter "Ob*".

RTFF.  The FAQ was just posted recently, wasn't it?

Anyhow, for me Ob* = obscure, obsolete, obsequious, and the most important
kind of hack: the obstetrician's (you get it if you  deliver a kid
in a computer science classroom).

Ob is also an "emoticon" of some dude wearing blue-blockers giving
you the raspberries, like the cool "alt.hackers" types we are ;)

=O) <=== cyberpunk w/his blue-blocker peril-sensitive shades.
=Ob <=== cyberpunk giving his sysadmin the bronx cheer after being told
         to stop getting root to re-enable alt.hackers
=O( <=== cyberpunk after the fedz find a pirated copy of MacPlaymate
         on his harddrive and he's going to be doing 5-10 for illegal
         copying of software and being a technoperv after the sysadmin
         turned him in.
=:| <=== his mugshot during processing -- they took his blue-blockers.
=:o <=== cyberpunk's face when he finds out how his new "federal" roommate,
         "Meat," got his nickname.
=:O <=== cyberpunk screaming for the guards after he finds out "Meat"
         is looking for a new "girlfriend."

Get the picture?  Anyhow, the real answer is in the FAQ -- I forget
what it is, I don't pay attention to those things.  This is
alt.hackers after all.

ObHack: Amusing (I hope) people with CyberPunk Emoticons(tm).  Gee,
I wonder if I can make a breakfast cereal out of these...hmm....CyberCereal
it's got a nice ring to it.  Now all I need is some sugar and
food coloring to make those tasty "marshmallows".

-Louis

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Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: Biff
Subject: masked entries in password file
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:57:11 GMT

    Hello,
          A simple question that I'm sure someone out there can answer...
Some systems have only a '*' in the encrypted password field, I think this 
is because they have an echoed password system or something like that.....
I think there's a port you have to connect to locally to query for the 
encrypted password or something like that to get a higher security rating
for the entire system..... Could some one please explain this to the net
(interest only). I am quite curious as to how this works and I can't be 
bothered to muck around with the ports an shit if someone already knows 
how it works and what the general protocol is....
 Cheers......
From: daniel@mertwig.uucp (Daniel Drucker)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Re: obHack
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 20:28:45 EST
Reply-To: daniel%mertwig@uunet.uu.net  (Daniel Drucker)
Organization: Abnormalities of Reality

rodney@cabot.balltown.cma.com (Rodney Peck) writes:

> In article <1jhilrINNkjm@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> phydeaux@guru.med.cornell
> 
>    obHack: getting a comma-delimited file to a tab-delimited one (hey, the
>    FAQ says "No hack too small...")  B{)
> 
> well...  how'd you do it?  sed, ted, ed, fred, ex, emacs, vi, awk, perl, sh?
> Now, a cool hack would be to go ahead and write it in all of those just to 
> be spiteful.

Hey, forgot my favorite: TECO!



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From: aw2t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Alex R.N. Wetmore)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Re: masked entries in password file
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:17:53 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.alt.hackers: 24-Jan-93 masked entries in password
.. by Biff@??? 
>           A simple question that I'm sure someone out there can answer...
> Some systems have only a '*' in the encrypted password field, I think this 
> is because they have an echoed password system or something like that.....
> I think there's a port you have to connect to locally to query for the 
> encrypted password or something like that to get a higher security rating
> for the entire system..... Could some one please explain this to the net
> (interest only). I am quite curious as to how this works and I can't be 
> bothered to muck around with the ports an shit if someone already knows 
> how it works and what the general protocol is....

Usaully that implies that there is a shadowed password file of some
sort.  The methods for doing this are different, but here is the most
common:

The regular password file doesn't have passwords in it.  There is
another password file (called passwd.master on 386bsd, shadow on sysv,
depends on the system) that is a copy of it, but it also has the
passwords in it.  Programs that need to query for the users password
have to be installed setuid root to be able to read the shadowed pw
file, because it only has read permissions for root.  I assume getpwent
checks to see if you have the perms to read the shadowed file and if not
returns a line from the non-shadowed file, although I have not tested
this.

Note that this is just how it works on some system.  Kerberos systems do
authentication over the network (and thus don't have the encrypted
passwords anywhere on the system), and other systems may keep the
passwords in other places (aix has a much differently structed passwd
file in /etc/security that has the passwords).  If you are interested in
kerberos there is an interesting article about it on research.att.com in
/pub/papers/security (I think, just look around and it should be
obvious).

alex

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From: gilligan@camelot.bradley.edu (Edward Henigin)
Subject: person looking for mou_rout.zip
Organization: Your Mother's Knee
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:02:56 GMT

I'm sorry, I know this is bad . . but . . 

Would the person who's looking for mou_rout.zip please write me again?
I'm sorry, I deleted your last message, and can't write you back.
We'll try sending the uuencoded file again . . maybe it'll work this
time.

ed
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Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: Ralf.Brown@B.GP.CS.CMU.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Re: My first nntp hack
Date: 24 Jan 93 11:21:54 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University School of Computer Science
Originator: ralf@B.GP.CS.CMU.EDU

In article <1993Jan21.225301.12359@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, tad@ROCK (Tad Hunt) wrote:
}        Well, CMU used to have a drink machine from what I've heard, but I
}don't think it was accessable from the internet.. Ours, however, IS

Sure was.  'finger coke@cmu-cs-a' and later 'finger coke@a.cs.cmu.edu'
would get you the machine's status from anywhere on the then-Arpanet. It
disappeared in about 1987, when the local bottler switched bottle types,
requiring a new machine.  We currently have an M&M machine accessible to
a 'junkfood' program which I believe uses specific IP ports rather than
'finger'.

ObHack: a 'termcap' interface written entirely in Lisp.  Near as I can
tell, the only non-portable parts are the functions to set raw/cooked
mode (for single-character input) and the use of a global variable
containing the environment strings which is provided by CMU Common Lisp.

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From: kec@buitc.bu.edu (Kenneth Cleary)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Re: "Catching Peppers" program
Date: 24 Jan 93 22:29:44 GMT
Distribution: alt.hackers
Organization: dis...

In article <1j5108INNfrb@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> friedenb@egr.msu.edu (Gedaliah Friedenberg) writes:
>A few months ago there was a script posted which send mail
>to yourself whenever your account was fingered.  In the mail
>was the name and email address of the person fingering your
>account.  I think that the post was entitled "Catching Peepers"
>or something like that.  Could someone repost it, or send it
>to me?  Thanks

SysAdmins who want to see who is finger'ing their user's (pun intended ;-)
{but don't time to rewrite fingerd}
may want to take a look at /etc/syslog.conf ...
(particularly those entries that configure logging of daemonic activity ;-)
{OK, so it might not give you the username, but it will give the machine)

Obhack:
Hey, so you think your unattended news reader is cool?
Well, how about my automated news writer that parsed the original article
and then wrote an automatic reply without my ever having had to read it ;-)

























{just kidding}
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 21:31:41 -0500 
From: Kip Walker <kwalker+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: obHack [polyglots]

polyglots is truly amazing.  It worked under postscript, C, sh, ksh,
fortran and pascal.  so cool.

Almost as much fun as changing the titles of people's xterm windows.