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From: henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Black Balls
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:49:46 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <8ehEHOS00VopMAT1pK@andrew.cmu.edu> Ravi Kumar Chopra <rc0i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>I tried a case of Cal Mag Black Beauties once, and more recently a
>friend of mine tried a case of black premium Sherer Semi Auto paint. 
>Both of these had bright tracer shots mixed in, and both were absolutely
>impossible to track anyhow.  It's even worse if you're in shadow or it's
>overcast... the balls come out of your gun and vanish.  I'd never use
>them again.
>
>-Ravi
Are you sure they are impossible to track?  Then, I can't wait to get some.
Idema Combat Systems sells black shelled paint for military combat simulation
purposes.  They claim using brightly colored paint distracts the user from 
using his sights properly.

zz
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From: harlan@oberon.cs.wisc.edu (Harlan Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Non-paint toys in Paintball games
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:05:34 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

In article <1992Sep10.003742.7189@cs.rose-hulman.edu> trimblte@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu writes:
>
>In article <1992Sep9.203341.27768@cs.wisc.edu> harlan@oberon.cs.wisc.edu  
>(Harlan Harris) writes:
>>*perimiter. Anyway, someone tossed a grenade into the fort, and it blew  
>within                                                           ^^^^^^^
>>*a second, completely covering me and my codefender. (they won) 
>
>
>"Blew"?  It sounds as if this were an actual explosive.  The only paint  
>"grenades" I've seen are the "Squadbuster" type.  Looks to me like a water  
>balloon filled with paint.  Am I correct?  Are there others out there?  If  
>so, WOW!  That _would_ be fun!

Yeah, it blew. The thing is a 4" long tube, 2" diameter with a small explosive
inside, with lots of pink paint surrounding it. You pull the pin and it blows
in 5 seconds. It cost about $6 at the place I was at. A good 20' area would
be dead, if you throw it right. I suppose you might get a mild burn if you
help on to one as it went off, though.

As for being fun, it wasn't on the receiving end. :) I bought one, but
never got a chance to use it...

I understand that there are also types that spin around, but I've not seen
them.

 -Harlan Harris
From: bjs@neptune.phys.ufl.edu (Brian J. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Paintball Sources
Date: 8 Sep 92 00:38:27 GMT
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Organization: University of Florida Physics Department, CMT Group

In article <1992Aug26.191227.820@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> kyasuda@ecn.purdue.edu (Ken Yasuda) writes:
>>Aslo I want to make a silencer for my .68 Special does anybody out there 
>>know how they are constructed?  It looks like 2 tubes of PVC pipe with
>>sound absorbing stuff in between.
>
>Putting a silencer on a .68?  Think for a moment: there's a cleaning port on
>the left-hand side of the gun which lets out huge blasts every time the gun
>fires.  At best, you could make the .68 sound like one loud gun instead of two
>loud ones.  ;)  I don't think you can win much by putting a silencer on.  
>You'd be better off getting another gun.

Ya well, I am :)

I played with an AutoMag this weekend, and it is an simply evil "paintthrower"
I wish they weren't as costly.  What are the best prices you have seen for
a AutoMag with or without the Diamond Cut Barrel ?  I would love commets
from anybody that owns one of these toys.

Please list if the price includes a tank or not.  In APGs Oct Issue:

I&I Sports		$429.95
.68 AutoMag + Viewloader and CA adaptor

TNT Action Sports	$415.00
.68 AutoMag + 7oz Tank

Discount Paintball	$389.00
.68 AutoMag + ????

Scan-Line		$374.95
.68 AutoMag -- No Tank

B & M			$439.95
.68 AutoMag + 7oz Tank

Paintball Sports of Maryland	$399.95
.68 AutoMag + ????

Bjs
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From: trimblte@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Subject: Re: Non-paint toys in Paintball games
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:37:42 GMT


In article <1992Sep9.203341.27768@cs.wisc.edu> harlan@oberon.cs.wisc.edu  
(Harlan Harris) writes:
>*perimiter. Anyway, someone tossed a grenade into the fort, and it blew  
within                                                           ^^^^^^^
>*a second, completely covering me and my codefender. (they won) 


>* -Harlan Harris


"Blew"?  It sounds as if this were an actual explosive.  The only paint  
"grenades" I've seen are the "Squadbuster" type.  Looks to me like a water  
balloon filled with paint.  Am I correct?  Are there others out there?  If  
so, WOW!  That _would_ be fun!

Todd
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From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: Guns
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 23:30:56 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Sep9.193810.5005@selway.umt.edu> sh666@selway.umt.edu (Wolverine) writes:
>like 'hoggin' with a .68 special.  Should I buy another specail or
>can anybody reccomend anything else to me?  Thanks in advance...
>

Well, there's always the Pro/Am.  A tad smaller, quieter, and gets more gas
mileage that the Special. ^_^
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From: rc0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ravi Kumar Chopra)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: pmi 3 ...
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:19:04 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I've also had a lot of problems with my PMI-3 in the winter.  What I've
done is get an insulating sleeve for my 20 oz. back bottle (now in
bottom-line config.) and put a handwarmer in it.  Handwarmers are well
known to hunters and can be found at your local K-Mart.  Keeps the
bottle warm and the pressure up.  Another thing I've recently gotten,
but haven't had the chance to try yet is a weaker valve spring (the
small one behind the valve, not the large main spring).  I know several
All-Americans who use them with great success.

-Ravi
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From: sh666@selway.umt.edu (Wolverine)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Guns
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:38:10 GMT
Organization: University of Montana

Well I'm thinking about rejoining the world of paintball again...
Just some questions I would like to have answered.  What guns out
there are really hot?  Is the Illustrator still king (in my section
of the woods it was anyway)  How about the Automag?  Its been a long
time since I've looked at any paitball mags...  My rig of choice
was a .68 special w/mirage.  My duties are almost exclusively walking
point, so I need something thats very reliable and fast (I throw
reams of paint *evil grin*, my team learned this lesson very well after
we played the Black Diamonds a year ago)  I still think theres nothing
like 'hoggin' with a .68 special.  Should I buy another specail or
can anybody reccomend anything else to me?  Thanks in advance...

							Wolverine
							Capt. D.O.A.
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From: aktan@rodan.acs.syr.edu (My name is Andre...)
Subject: Re: Guns
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 12:57:07 EDT

In article <c6snc1-.albertw@netcom.com> albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.193810.5005@selway.umt.edu> sh666@selway.umt.edu (Wolverine) writes:
>>like 'hoggin' with a .68 special.  Should I buy another specail or
>>can anybody reccomend anything else to me?  Thanks in advance...
>>
>
>Well, there's always the Pro/Am.  A tad smaller, quieter, and gets more gas
>mileage that the Special. ^_^

QUIETER!??!?  You must be kidding...  The Pro/Am is one of the loudest guns
I have heard...  When I compare my Pro/Am to my Special, geeeeeeawd.... big
difference... Granted, I have a Smart Parts barrel on my Special, but I still
think that even with a stock barrel, a special has less of an edge on its
report...

 - Andre
From: henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: pmi 3 ...
Date: 11 Sep 92 05:06:37 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1992Sep10.173420.25698@philabs.philips.com> sew@philabs.philips.com (Scott E. Wakeman) writes:
>
>>Ooh, I've heard that you never want to put a siphon tank on a PMI-3.
>
>>>Mitri Van
>
>  I'm running liquid with no problems, actually a 20 oz back bottle setup.
> I had velocity problems when I first got the gun, but switching to
> leaded solved the problem. I also had custom porting afterwards

hmm.  I'm confused.  Mitri doesn't reccomend a siphon and Scott is all for it.
What do I tell my friend.  BTW do they have aftermarket spring kits like the
ones for Nelson based gun and such or the PMI-3 velocity adjustment doesn't
rely on springs as much?

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From: wb9omc@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: straighter flying paintballs
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:09:07 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

richhg@hsv3.lsil.com (Rich Henderson-Gragg) writes:

>in an article (DAVID W. JONES) writes:
>>and breaking. I also found with my gun that greater accuracy is achieved by
>>chroning in at 270fps to 280fps.


>   I've also noticed this affect of late.  It seems even more pronounced
>when I use my rifled barrel.  Maybe the acceleration on the ball as
>it is forced to spin is gentle enough at lower velocities to not break the
>ball and the gyroscopic effect of the spin allows it to travel farther
>in a straight line before it wanders.
>     -Rich-

	A parallel observation - aside from playing paintball with
what is essentially a large-bore airgun, I also target shoot with lead
pellets in .177.  My Dad and I both have one gun that is essentially
the same mechanism - his is a Daisy 880 with rifled barrel, mine is
an OEM'ed version that Daisy made under the Ted Williams name with a
smooth barrel.  

	I can shoot pellets nearly dead on at 10 meters with a velocity
of around 685 FPS (full power).  But Dad's 880 isn't worth spit at
full power, you can actually see the pellets corkscrewing!  When you
use his rifle at about 6 or 7 pumps, though (I'm guessing around 400
to 420 FPS) it has about the same accuracy and settles right in.

	So it would not surprise me a bit that something odd could 
happen to a paintball at different velocities, keeping in mind of course,
that paintball barrel rifling isn't usually the same as pellet
gun rifling.....

	As a general comment - it strikes me (no pun intended) that
if you lower the velocity of your paintball gun, there will be a
direct effect on the maximum range at which the ball will *break*.
In short, there may be a range at which you will be gaining *accuracy*
but losing *effectiveness*; if the ball doesn't break, it doesn't
count.


Duane
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: trimblte@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Subject: Terre Haute, IN
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 01:33:00 GMT

Distribution: world

OK, one more question.  I'm stuck here in Terre Haute, IN, and I want to  
play paintball.  I've looked in the all knowing phone book and found  
nothing.  Does anyone know of any fields in the area that I could  
frequent?  One game every so often when I get to go home kinda sucks!  I  
want to play here in the area.

Thanks in advance.

Todd
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From: vanichth@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Mitri Van)
Subject: Re: pmi 3 ...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:45:58 GMT

sew@philabs.philips.com (Scott E. Wakeman) writes:

>henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan) writes:

>>Any responses would be appreciative.
>>Ooh, I've heard that you never want to put a siphon tank on a PMI-3.
>>>Mitri Van
>  I'm running liquid with no problems, actually a 20 oz back bottle setup.
> to increase the efficiency. Works like a charm.

Really?  Neat... 

Mitri Van
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From: jfol@hydra.unm.edu (Joshua Follick (Paintball Underground))
Subject: Re: Vents vs. JT X-Fire
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 07:08:53 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <7549@monmouth.edu> c1741@moncol.monmouth.edu (MICHAEL CARSON) writes:
>In article <jbkn+#g@lynx.unm.edu> jfol@hydra.unm.edu (Joshua Follick (Paintball Underground)) writes:
>> 
>>    I have tried to find a local supplier to do something
>>like prescription pb goggle lenses. no luck so far. If
>>you actually do (it looks like you're not serious), please
>>post and let us know.
>>
>	I don't see why this couldn't be done.  There are perscription
>SCUBA masks...  Have you looked in like Pearle Vision Centre and other houses
>of perscription lenses?
>
    Yes I have. Aside from the safety requirements, or perhaps
I should say because of them, of paintball, the lense must
meet certain standards. This means that the lense must
essentially be made from scratch by someone who knows
how to do it and the safety requirements. Essentially,
one would have to be JT or vents because
some serious testing would need to be done before
you could call such a lense safe.

   Most non-paintball goggle lenses use a system that
basically imbeds a pair of lenses in the mask, causing weak
points at the point of the lense, even were this not
the case, the lense would have to be paintball safe.

   Lastly, since most Perle type eyeglass stores order there
lenses and grind them on site to match frames, not curvature
of prescription, they aren't much help.

   Well, I hope that all sounds more clear than it looks.
If anyone knows anything I missed in my search
for the perscription (preferably thermal) lense, please post.
Until then we'll just have to work with what we got.

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From: Todd.Looney@f27.n143.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Todd Looney)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Help : Paintball Guns that conform to Irish Law.
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:17:40 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:143/27 - Int'l Public Emerge, San Jose CA

Hello glynnw@ul.ie!

 gi> Under Irish law, Paintball guns are classified as firearms and this
 gi> restricts the range of weapons available.

 gi> The primary restriction is that a firearm in Ireland cannot have a pistol
 gi> grip and must have a stock of some form (e.g. C/A tank). This is due to
 gi> the laws on weapon concealment.

 gi> The only gun that I know that conforms to this restriction is the Sheridan
 gi> Kp3.

 gi> If anybody knows of other guns that can meet the above mentioned
 gi> restrictions, or if guns are supplied in kit form that could possibly be
 gi> modified, please contact me.

The AutoMag 68, the PMI III, just to name two... they have pistol grips but then I think almost all of the paintguns do, but with the stock or rear-mount tank they conform?   Both are easy to disassemble and modifications which proper equipment and know-how.  I should think there would be a lot of paintgun models which have either stocks or rear-mount air.

Todd

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Date: Thursday, 10 Sep 1992 08:05:48 CDT
From: DMc <U53306@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Paintball Gun Question
 <1992Sep8.024025.28192@panix.com>

The sterling, while being a sheridan based design, has got to be the
easiest gun in the world to take down and clean.  to completely dis-
assemble the gun, you only need to remove two screws that are both
removeable by hand.

you only need to do that much if you need to adjust the firing pin or the
spring tension.  if you need to clean the barrel/bore, you remove the bolt
which is done by hand.  The gun needs _no_ tools.  slipping the bolt out
for cleaning takes all of about 1 second, and I can get the gun completely
taken apart and get it all put back together in about 45 seconds (I have even
completely dis-assembled the gun on the field, during a game, because I
snapped a spring and had to replace it.

the sterling is a dream.

another of it's nice points is consistency.  I have yet to have a variance in
velocity of more than 4 f.p.s. while chronographing the gun.  I would suggest
that everyone save  up the $500 and get yourself one.  I now use this gun
instead of any of my semi's and I _win_ most confrontations against semis on
the field.


Dave McCarty <u53306@uicvm.uic.edu> <mccarty@earth.eecs.uic.edu>
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From: aktan@rodan.acs.syr.edu (My name is Andre...)
Subject: Re: Vents Predators?
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 22:00:22 EDT

In article <36895@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> bjs@neptune.phys.ufl.edu (Brian J. Smith) writes:
>
>Why do you think Scott is better ?, I have JT Snappers which with Anti-Fog
>spray (every game) don't fog, and I huff and puff alot.  I have seen the 
>Vents and have seen balls bounce off them, I also would think that they are
>cooler (temp)  plus they have the neck protection that Scotts don't.
>

    I have personally sold my X-Fires and bought a pair of Scotts simply
because I didn't feel the need for THAT much protection...  I wear a boonie
hat when I play, and Scotts are perfect for that...  That way, the back
of my head, my face, and my ears are protected... The parts that matter
the most to me...  The peripheral vision thing is a beneficial side effect
too...

 - Andre

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From: glynnw@ul.ie
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Help : Paintball Guns that conform to Irish Law.
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:09:45 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

Under Irish law, Paintball guns are classified as firearms and this restricts
the range of weapons available.

The primary restriction is that a firearm in Ireland cannot have a pistol grip
and must have a stock of some form (e.g. C/A tank). This is due to the laws on 
weapon concealment.

The only gun that I know that conforms to this restriction is the Sheridan Kp3.

If anybody knows of other guns that can meet the above mentioned restrictions,
or if guns are supplied in kit form that could possibly be modified, please 
contact me.

Regards,

William Glynn.

glynnw@ul.ie
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From: aktan@rodan.acs.syr.edu (My name is Andre...)
Subject: Re: Non-paint toys in Paintball games
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 12:51:50 EDT

In article <2404@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> billc@zippy.UUCP (Bill Carter) writes:
>>
>   I've seen smoke grenades used a couple of times but with little useful
>   effect.  People seem to throw them mainly when they are in trouble
>   and want to cover a retreat.  The smoke doesn't neccessarily go
>   where you want it to, of course, and it can easily be a hindrance to
>   both sides.  I've heard they can start fires, but maybe that's only
>   some kinds of smokers.

I've only seen smoke effectively used once and I think that it was more of
a matter of luck, rather than any skill in strategically placing it.  I dunno
I'm not too fond of smoke...

>
>   I think paint grenades are fairly useless as well.  If you are close
>   enough to throw one at some guys you might as well use your paintgun
>   to mark them.  The radius of elimination is very small when you
>   use them in underbrush.  I could see using them to route out people
>   defending a fortified position, maybe, but you usually have to be able
>   to throw with great accuracy.  Anybody have a story about using
>   smoke or paint grenades?

I also think that paint grenades are pretty useless... However, on one occasion,
I played with this guy who was a paint grenade God...  I saw him use a grenade
three times during the day, and he wrecked many players, one time taking out
five...(well, they weren't being too smart and were bunched up pretty tightly)
The guy apparently pitched baseball, and could place a grenade pretty much
wherever he wanted.... Pretty impressive, but not for me....  I'd rather
buy 4 dollars worth of paint(80 balls) and try to blast those folx out, than
buy a damned grenade and probably miss...

- Andre

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From: Rich.Rubel@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Rich Rubel)
Subject: Re: Black Balls
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:50:56 GMT


I use 'em.  Depending on the light, you can sometimes see them.  I don't
have a quiet gun, though (68 special), so I can't comment on the ambush
capabilities.  They do have an intimidating effect on newbies, though :-)
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