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From: dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (The Nashville Flash)
Subject: Re: Chainlube for my BM?
Originator: dab@space3
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:01:11 GMT

>In article <1992Sep8.214920.7774@rtsg.mot.com> svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:
>>|BMW has NEVER made a chain driven motorcycle.
>>
>>I have a question which concerns exactly that:
>>I was at a social function a few weeks ago when I met a gentleman who
>>swore up and down that BMW once made a chain-drive cycle, a long time
>...
>>offered to bet me $50.  Not being sure enough of my answer to lay down 
>...
>>Did BMW ever manufacture a chain-driven motorcycle?  Did I blow
>>fifty bucks?

In article <1992Sep09.141808.13099@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>Well, if you consider the tracks of their half-track motos to be "chains",
>then I suppose they did...

*BMW* has never made a chain driven motorcycle.  There was a bike in ~1922 
called a Flink or Helios which was a horizontally opposed twin that WAS 
chain driven.  But the company that built it was not (yet) BMW.  (The 
exact particulars slip my aging mind and my reference materials are at 
home.)

BMW never built "half-track motos."  They did build a single track thing 
that was sort of like a snowmobile that used one tank-like track that went 
all the way over and under the vehicle.  VERY strange.  
(Reminiscent of the Spagthorpe Sled Dog).

The "half-track moto" to which you are probably referring was a 
Kettenkraftrad, model designation NSU HK100.  Figuring out the manufacturer 
"is left as an exercise for the reader."  About a year ago, I posted a bunch 
of stats for that machine.  If anyone archived it, I would appreciate a copy 
since the Bit Monster ate mine.  (TIA)
============================================================================
 "No hour of life is lost that is spent in the saddle." - Winston Churchill
    The Nashville Flash	  -   dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu   -   DoD # 412 

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: glasses and helmets
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 14:53:15 GMT

In article <192ap6INN64e@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>>sai@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM (S.Fielding-Isaacs [WWFO Pubs Project Lead]) writes:
>>>In article <pmvntao@fido.asd.sgi.com> cj@sgi.com (C J Silverio) writes:
>>
>>>>The FAQ mentions cutting chunks out of the foam liner to
>>>>allow room for glasses.  Is this really a good idea?
>>
>>> I think it's a _really_ stupid idea, 
>
>Folks, I don't think wearing *glasses* inside a helmet is such a clever
>idea.  If there is *no* movement of your face within the helmet, you're
                                                   grammar flame! ^^^^^^

>helmet's too tight.  If there is, you are risking glasses pieces in
>your eyeball.

I assume that you're talking about having a helmet loose enough to smash
your glasses against your faceshield should you land on your face in a 
crash. I'd say that if your face moves that much in your helmet that your 
helmet is too loose or you have not tied the chinstrap properly. 

After fighting with contacts for years (a combination of problems), I've 
decided that I can't wear them (no more than 6-hours a day is not very 
practical). When I did, I found that I got too much stuff in my eyes even 
with the shield down on my full-face helmet. I hear that with soft contacts 
this is not a problem, but with the gas-permeable rigid ones, the dirt swims 
underneath and hurts like hell. I find that glasses work just fine with a 
helmet. While they are just one more thing to possibly break in my face, 
I consider the risk to be minimal and the comfort level much higher than 
with contacts. Besides, some people have no choice.

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
From: kevinm@pogo.wv.tek.com (Kevin Mills)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Castrol Syntec (Oh God! Not oil again!)
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:01:14 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville,  OR.

|>  I'm interested in finding out more about the new Castrol Synthetic, also.
|>Sounds like a mix of Slick-50 and synthetic oil...
|
|It seems it builds up a film quite well, but it also tends to break
|off and clog straining screens, filters and very small oil passages.
|Anyone who uses PTFE in their oil doesn't get my vote.  but if they
|use PTFE on their ski bases, I'll buy that...

There is no mention of Castrol using a PTFE additive in their oil.
What they use may be similar (I'm not a chemist).  The impression I
got from reading the literature (a small pamphlet found on the parts
counter) was that the oil adhered very well to the surfaces in a micro
thin layer.

I think there was a 800 number for those who wanted more information
on the stuff.  I'll try to find it and give them a call.  I'll also
let everybody know if my engine suddenly clogs and quits on me in
mid-flight.

Kevin

-- 
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Kevin Jon Mills ('92 CBR600F2 CYBIKE)           kevinm@pogo.wv.tek.com
"I'm convinved, you'll never stop looking for ways to kill yourself."
                                                            -- My Mom
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: murfeypj@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Subject: Info/Opinions needed on Honda Hawk GT (NT650)
Reply-To: murfeypj@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 16:54:04 GMT

I am looking for any information about the Honda Hawk 650 (NT650). I am
considering a 1989 with 3000 miles on it as my first motorcycle. The dealer
seems to think it will be fine, but his only interest may be his commission.
Any information I can get will be appreciated.

				Thanks in advance,
				Pete Murfey
				MurfeyPJ@RoseVC.Rose-Hulman.Edu
From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: bikes/babes/bikinis/Denny's (say what?)
Date: 14 Sep 1992 19:00:12 GMT
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Distribution: na
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Originator: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <1992Sep14.175954.26187@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
|>  
|> I'd rather look at a woman in a bikini then full leathers but
|> hey that's just me.

One of the bikes/babes calendars out now has a nice looking blonde
on the front cover . . standing by some crotch rocket . . stepping
out of full leathers  . . and only having a bikini on . . . .
*pant* *pant* . . . . where's the nearest Denny's!?!?!?!?
		      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

OK, OK, that's a Houston *gang* joke!! ;-)

(Go ahead Lorra, Jeff, make a comment . . . I've got my 
asbestos bikini . . . I mean underwear on!!)

Mark

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth)
Subject: There is a new DoD listing. Membership is at 912
Summary: i'm pissed my # has been swallowed by the masses
Organization: University of Colorado Boulder, Pizza Disposal Group
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:39:15 GMT

There is a new DoD listing. To get a copy use one of these commands:

		finger motohead@cs.colorado.edu
				OR
		mail motohead@cs.colorado.edu

If you send mail make sure your "From" line is correct (ie "man vacation").
I will not try at all to fix mail problems (unless they are mine ;-). And I
may just publicly tell the world what a bad mailer you have. I do scan the 
mail to find bounces but I will not waste my time answering your questions 
or requests.

For those of you that want to update your entry or get a # contact the KotL.
Only the KotL can make changes. SO STOP BOTHERING ME WITH INANE MAIL

I will not tell what "DoD" is! Ask rec.motorcycles. I do not give out the #'s.


Laszlo Nemeth
pond_scum_sucker@cs.colorado.edu
"Flashbacks = free drugs."
"Do you believe some pin-head actually requested 90210?!?" Ed Green
"Harleys make to much noise. I guess I've just become a BMW snob" Mikii
Not many men can say they made a woman orgasm and laugh at the same time.
DoD #0666          UID #1999
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: La Honda --> Alice's Run
Date: 10 Sep 1992 17:27:33 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 16914@pb2esac.uucp, prahren@pb2esac.uucp (Peter Ahrens) writes:
>
>The original poster laments having to slow down for a "cager"...another
>word for whom might be "long time resident of the area."

An equally valid word for whom might be "airhead from the valley going
to the beach or just driving through the mountains."  There is far too
much traffic on that road for it to be local residents only.

>(1) Really enrage the locals; (2) Create major carnage, usually among
>themselves, but ask Jay Cena about when a dork on a California illegal
>two-stroke repli-racer who didn't have a clue how to take a curve T-boned
>his V-Max; (3) Bring major heat on everybody.

(4) Increase cop patrols
(5) Distort the general public's image of motorcyclists (not just "locals")
(6) Make Sandy worry more (she thinks *I* ride that way.  imagine that.)

I guess all that falls under (3).  Never mind.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: barry@fsp2.gtri.gatech.edu (Barry B Burnette)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Motorcycles prohibited (Was: Least Favorite Road Sign)
Keywords: NIMBY
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:42:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
X-Posted-From: fsp2.gtri.gatech.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <5252@gdls.UUCP> parker@gdls.UUCP (The Dougster) writes:
>In article <71.2AB16DA7@kennel.FIDONET.ORG>, john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) writes:
>
>On my way to the Finger Lakes Rally in NY, I tried going through the
>international tunnel between Detroit and Windsor. The friendly attendant
>greeted me with "We don't allow motorcycles. You're going to have to use
>the [Ambassador] bridge."
>

Big Canoe, a North Georgia resort community, prohibits motorcycles
from entering the gate.  Seems that residents there voted on "what
members of the community should drive".  The majority of the voting
neighbors are (ofcourse) older, retired persons.  With this example
of how to enjoy their golden years, I'd call them "living dead".  I
say this because I met an older guy (60-70's) in the N. Ga. mountains
on his Paris-Dakar and he was not about to let age slow him down.  

When all of the sportbikes took off from Two Wheels Only (T.W.O.)
for the afternoon shred through the hills, the old guy came along.
He ended up passing almost all of the 25 or so bikes as we burned
up Ga. 129.  There should be more retired people getting into the
habit of doing exciting activities.  They should not be sitting 
around, waiting for death, and forcing everyone (read: people with
a life) to be miserable also.  Damn NIMBY's, the "living dead" NIMBY's.
If they are going to "retire" like that, I wish they would go somewhere
where the roads are flat and straight.  They can't imagine how those
lakeside curves would love my pegs. 

Barry B.    (aka .edu-breath)
Ride fast, Ride hard, Stay young.
No loud pipes! Except when NIMBY's are nearby.  
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: etlanar@slartibartfast.ericsson.se (Alan Arthur)
Subject: DoD Merchandise
Organization: Ericsson Cellular Division
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:29:46 GMT


OK, these American DoD'ers seem to be pretty keen to produce DoD merchandise,
so how about us Euro DoDers sorting something out?

Would there be any interest in a Euro DoD T-Shirt? I'm quite happy to
organise it, unless someone else has a burning desire to 8^) Anyone who's
interested in one can mail me, and once I've got an idea in level of interest,
I'll get a price.

I presume there has been an American t-shirt done before. Could someone mail
me details. If anyone has ideas for the design, mail me those as well. If not
a t-shirt how about something else?

Arnie just posted about DoD zippo keyrings, but how about DoD zippo lighters?
Now that would be cool....


Alan


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EMail : etlanar@deep-thought.ericsson.se                  MEMO : ETL.ETLANAR
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From: thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: '85 Hesketh Vampire for sale
Date: 11 Sep 92 05:43:29 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

marcl@os-d.isc-br.com (H. Marc Lewis) writes:

>FYI -- the original manufacturer was Yamaguchi.  They imported a 55cc
>2-stroke single during the original Honda marketing blitz of the early 60's.

These bikes were easilly recognized by the red and green plaid paint jobs :-)
-- 
Paul Thompson    Apple Computer    DoD #47    Would you remember a 1-line .sig?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth)
Subject: Re: I have my DOD number!!!
Organization: University of Colorado Boulder, Pizza Disposal Group
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:02:33 GMT

In article <dbc-150992024514@129.22.242.51>, dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep14.181040.3303@ohrd.uucp>, ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu
|> (Jody Levine) wrote:
|> > 
|> > By the way, am I the only one still using rn? Don't worry, I've been called
|> > reactionary before.
|> > 
|> Rn?  RN!!  I'd love to use rn, but I don't happen to have a Unix box
|> sitting on my desk here in exile (school).  God but I'd like to be back
|> in the real world, with real hardware, real hours and a real paycheck.
|> Anyone looking for sysadmins and not to particular about whether or
|> not they have a degree? :-)


YEAH WHAT HE SAID!!!!! except i have rn & i have a unix box or a hundred

laz
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Man, that was FUN!
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:25:15 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC

In article 4711@wixer.cactus.org, lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle J. Mackey) writes:
>
>I would like to hereby nominate Richard Swift for blacklisting from the fine
>organization known as the DoD 

When are you people going to get it?  An organization with no rules can
exclude nobody.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:30624 ba.motorcycles:144
From: thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: How do voltage regulators get fried?
Date: 6 Sep 92 12:34:09 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

robert@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Robert Kennedy) writes:

>switched it back, but I heard a "pop" sound, sort of like pressure
>being released through a valve, or maybe like letting all the smoke
>out of a voltage regulator.

I've heard capacitors make this noise when connected to too much
voltage, or backwards, in the case of a polarized cap.  I've also
seen IC's pop their lids, but they didn't make much noise in the
process. 

>I tested the charging system, and sure enough, I can get over 17 volts

This could very well be enough to pop a cap - especially a Tantalum,
which typically have rather low voltage margins.

>Relevant fact 7: The bike does not vibrate excessively, and I am
>nearly certain the second high beam failure was caused by the failed
>regulator.

This is almost certainly the case.

>What other problems
>should I look for before I fire the bike up with a new regulator and
>headlight bulb in place? 

You might want to check out all the wiring leading to the regulator
before firing up (hopefully not literally) a new one.  Depending on the
design of the regulator circuit, it is conceivable that a disconnected
wire could cause damage.  Don't forget to check the ground
connection to the regulator as well, if it gets its connection from the
chassis.  Without seeing a schematic of your regulator and charging
system, I can't really be more specific.  Good luck!
-- 
Paul Thompson    Apple Computer    DoD #47    Would you remember a 1-line .sig?
From: jerry@stratford.dab.ge.com (Jerry Szulinski)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Fun with cagers or I'm bored.
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:28:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: GE Simulation & Control Systems

>My preferred approach, especially with adolescent cagers (including those
>adolescents who've managed to attain ages over 30) is to blip my throttle
>agressively, and hunch down a bit like I'm planning a fast launch (the
>still untamed loudness of my exhaust helps get this impression across);
>when the cager takes of smoking his tires, and barely staying in his lane,
>I just putter away from the line, keeping the revs low and the noise down.

Yeah, but then you have to lug your engine barely staying upright, tap
your brakes constantly, and _wait_ for him to wind up just to get ahead
of you by a mere few feet while you're bogging your engine trying to keep
him ahead of you. It's like trying to run a "slow race" for crying out loud.


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From: APLer@cup.portal.com (Roland Walter Besserer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Route Suggestions SF -> Galviston
Date: Sun,  6 Sep 92 23:09:52 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa


I will beriding my RGV from Santa Cruz (Bay Area, CA) to Galviston TX in
early October (yeah - I've heard all the sly remarks already)

I'd like to get there within 3 days, but naturally want to avoid Interstates
as much as possible. I would appreciate any route suggestions.

Thanx

roland
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Waving with meaning..?
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:31:19 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <23244@sybase.sybase.com>, leighann@sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey) writes:

> Hey, think of it, though.  Like the FAQ says, the only real secret we
> have anymore is the identity of the KotL.  This might be the sort of
> thing that could *only* be passed on at Ride'nFeeds, not possible to
> transmit in ascii...  

how about signing "3" with the left hand, fingers apart and pointing right;
and signing "ok" with the right hand, with the three smallest fingers held
vertically,  and tightly against each other?

> "And they ride, and they ride/ And the White Hounds run beside/ And they'll
> seize the night and shake it by the throat."

"And they slide, and they slide/ And the Black Spagthropes slide behind/
And they'll seize the leash and strangle themselves to death."

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
From: cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Cervi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: vanity plates
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:30:17 GMT
Organization: NSWC, Carderock Div. Det., Annapolis Facility

In article <14SEP199213013247@zeus.tamu.edu> efw5565@zeus.tamu.edu (Evelyn - gorgeous red-headed biker babe...) writes:

>    BLU BY U  (on a K100, I think)
>    XPRESO    (on a Ducati 907)

>Anybody out there have personalized plates?

I saw  -VMAXED-  on a MD tag today.
x
x
x
Mark
-- 
   _ _ Mark Cervi, CARDEROCKDIV, NSWC Code 2752, Annapolis, MD  21402
    _ _ _ cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil, (w) 410-267-2261, (h) 410-647-0990
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: ysr50's, prices, etc.
Date: 10 Sep 1992 13:22:10 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 18ltpfINN3ll@meeth.hal.COM, ae@hal.COM (Andrew Essen) writes:
>so, i'm moving and my new commute is about 1 mile.  i want to avoid the
>"lots of short trips so your motor never warms up and dies a premature death"
>syndrome on my motorcycle. 

So what's the problem?

I never had any trouble at all putting 50 miles on the odo in the
process of getting from here to there, where there is 1 mile from
here!

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dmatejka@netcom.com (Daniel Matejka)
Subject: Re: moped vs moto
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 18:39:21 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services

In article <1992Sep9.160916.22051@socrates.umd.edu> rowell@socrates.umd.edu (William Rowell) writes:
>Help me out here. A friend of mine has been debating with his girlfriend
>the merits of a motorcycle over those of a moped for his new mode of
>transportation. He is moving to LA and will be commuting to UCLA from
>the somewhere between there and San Diego. The basic argument so far is:

  I rode a stuped once.  A Vespa.  I was taking a jaunt to the grocery
store.  Saw a bit of sand in the street at the entrance to the parking lot,
slowed to a crawl and bravely began the turn.  When the front wheel
touched the outermost grain of sand I was instantaneously horizontal.
  The good part was, of course, that having a Vespa land on you hurts
less than stubbing your toe.  But they have to be the only thing on
wheels more dangerous than 'blades.
  Besides, the poseur value of riding on something that's no
bulkier than your helmet is pretty low.  Poseur rule #0(a): Your center
of gravity needs to appear to be beneath your neck.
From: ranck@vtserf.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Olympic Bikers?
Date: 5 Sep 92 15:50:46 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


   I'm sure most of you have seen the guys on BMWs riding around with
maniac camarmen hanging off the back as they follow the marathon runners
or bicycle racers.  So, how do I get a job driving one of those BMWs?
Can I sign up for a school on the back of a matchbook or something?
Inquiring minds want to know.

--

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* Bill Ranck     DoD #496  ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu                            *
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