From: nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Nabil Idriss)
Subject: Re: BILL CLINTON ON ISRAEL AND THE MIDDLE
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 16:26:06 GMT

>
>They haven't departed from this idea. It's still in the PLO charter,
>in the regular statements issued by Hizbollah and Syria, and in the
>statements made by more than half of the PLO statesmen I hear. Arafat,
>immediately following his supposed "acceptance" of the existence of
>Israel, followed it up in the Arab papers with something along the
>lines of "No, no, no!! We do not recognize Israel's right to exist;
>we have never said that." -- it's been posted here, along with the
>paper it came from, but I don't recall what that was. 
>

I think some body asked a PLO official about the charter and the answer
was that the previous charter has been cancelled. Why do you think then
the present government declared that the no PLO contact law is stupid?
would they have said that if the charter was still the same?

>>If Rabin was correct in what he said last week on MCcneil Lehrer news
>>hour that he is prepared to offer the Palestininas a first step self
>>rule and elections on the next peace talks, it would be a good time
>>to end of boycott. I would prefer to see a final solution before the
>>end of the boycott.
>
>I just love your terminology here. No doubt a "final solution" is
>exactly what you'd like; unfortunately, we fight back these days.

Nora, what is with you? last time you say nuclear weapons and now 
you say we fight back. The final solution should be a Palestinian
state ruled by Palestinians. Unless if you want the one state 
solution which most Jews reject. We the Palestinians have a right
as much as you have a right. We want our own president. We want our
own country and this is the only thing acceptable. In other words,
we are human beings just like you are. I composed of flesh and blood
and I need to have a country. The Arab countries are not my country.
If you don't want to give me my rights and want to fight back,then
I have to fight back too.

>
>>You make it sound like that building settlements in the territories was
>>a right for Israel to do and they gave up this right for the loan gurantees.
>
>You got it. The territories are Israeli-owned territory just now. You
>may not like this, but it's true; and as such, they have the right to
>make use of the land subject to certain restrictions according to inter-
>national law. It is not against international law to build settlements.
>Sorry to disappoint.
>

International law? you must be joking!

>I suggest you take this up with the Jordanians. What Jordan does to you
>is not Israel's responsibility.

Right, but it is Palestine responsibility.

>
>>Iraq and Syria never had Nuclear weapons. I think this is the only mass
>>destruction weapon nowadays. I don't think that chemical weapons are 
>>mass destruction. Every country in the world will use them as a last 
>>resort. 
>
>Iraq doesn't have nuclear weapons because Israel took out their plant
>ten years ago. No thanks to anyone else for that. And while every country
>in the world will use them as a last resort, Israel included, Iraq and
>Syria are likely to use them well before it gets to a last resort. Put
>bluntly, if Israel has nuclear weapons you don't want them to use, you
>can make sure they do not use them by refraining from invading their
>country and threatening it with extinction. If Iraq and Syria have nuclear
>weapons you do not want them to use, the only way you can prevent them
>is for everybody to do exactly what they want you to, on every subject
>and in every detail.
>

You are saying that? Who said few weeks ago that Israel is ready to use
Nuclear weapons when we were discussing Jerusalem? Wasn't you?


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