Newsgroups: can.politics
Subject: Re: On Exaggeration
From: kmcvay@oneb.wimsey.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 02:50:07 GMT
Distribution: can
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island

In article <1992Apr6.201322.21465@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> pierre@chaos.phys.ualberta.ca (Pierre Rouleau) writes in response to comments I made about
the Lubicon Lake Indian Nation:

>> The Lubicon Lake Cree, a tragic (and near-perfect)
>> example of genuine victims of oppression, wouldn't
>> find disgust at such conversations - if they ever saw
>> them, which is unlikely. Their history has taught them
>> that little or nothing we have to say carries conviction
>> or merit anyway, so our conversational topics are simply
>> not relevant to them.

>  Well Ken, following your logic, it is therefore best to
>hear from the Lubicons directly :-) ... Note that when
>Lubicons were starving only a few years back I contributed
>to the transport of food, so I have some idea of what they
>think of white society.  Once the truth in your last statement
>is recognised, then a clear start to rectify this sad situation
>is for us to discover the true meaning of respect for others,
>which I humbly tried to do.

Interesting that you should comment on contacting the Lubicon
directly, because now you can do just that. My recent post
(can.politics, alt.native, soc.rights.human, etc.) on the plight of
the Lubicon noted Terry Kelly's IMEX.ORG address for those who wish to
get information directly from the Lubicon News system, but used a
re-routing address as I didn't know Terry's for certain. Now I do. You
can reach Terry Kelly, who runs a dos-based fidotech email system to
provide the Lubicon with a means to provide information to the outside
world. You can reach her via any of the following:

lubicon%oneb.wimsey.bc.ca@mala.bc.ca
terry%oneb.wimsey.bc.ca@mala.bc.ca
Terry.Kelly@f402.n701.z89.imex.org

I say "interesting" because for a year or so Terry received alt.native
ports from a dos gate I operated, and received a lot of attention in
Europe. The information she posted was detailed, accurate, and
concise. The folks in the fidotech network, IMEx, harrassed Terry to
the point where she quit posting her stuff in their Canadian chatter
conference, and I haven't heard from her since.

In similar fashion, a Vancouver Island Native Canadian, Pakki Chipps,
received abusive treatment from so many rednecked bigots within IMEx,
primarily in Ontario, that she withdrew for a time and was going to
leave the net entirely until we talked her out of it. Pakki's stories
were quite different from Terry's, although the picture was the same
in the end - the treatment of aboriginal people by our lying,
cheating, and abusive government (that's US!) is flat disgusting. (You
can reach Pakki via Pakki.Chipps@f25.n688.z89.imex.org, and, yes,
that's her real name... or, er, the one some white man gave part of
her family.... she has blood sisters with different names, and often
tells the tale of how such bullshit came to be.)

I have tried for nearly five years to provide Native access to the
nets, but the bigots seem to block every turn, one way or another.
Combine the abuse with the cultural reluctance to deal with conflict
and you have very quiet Natives....

>I take the opportunity to thank you for bringing the Lubicon
>issue on the net; it is a "helluva" way to snap us all out of
>accute complacency, and a pointed reminder that the "conciliatory
>character of Canadians" is not a birthright, but something that
>each and everyone of us must earn ...

If you didn't see the Lubicon calendar (which I did not finish because
quite frankly the story sickens me), let me know, and I will send it
to you.... hell, I may even finish it, and, if I am lucky, I'll do so
while there are still living Lubicons. (The only difference between us
and the South Africans is that we've chosen to do our killing
quietly.)


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