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From: ae547@yfn.ysu.edu (Ronda Hauben)
Subject: Comments on alt.amateur-comp newsgroup scope  
Reply-To: ae547@yfn.ysu.edu (Ronda Hauben)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 01:34:59 GMT


I'm reposting this comment that was posted in response to the 
proposal for the newsgroup as it seems to merit discussion.

I have been getting various other comments via email and 
we welcome discussion in this newsgroup.

To: ae547@yfn.ysu.edu, rhauben@heartland.bradley.edu
 
 
Ronda: 
 
Your posting didn't include a Newsgroups or Followup line, so I include
the following just to make sure you get it. I posted the followup in
comp.programming, which is where I found your article.
 
I find it almost unbelievable that Ford _and_ UAW together would end
programming classes. It seems to me that everyone benefits by having
informed, knowledgeable employees - The individuals involved, the
company, and the American industrial society at-large! But I've never
worked in either an automotive or union environment, so things must be
different somehow. I'd also appreciate it if you would email or tell
me where I can ftp your newsletters - I suspect they might provide some
insight. thx.
 
FYI if you're interested, I'm employed in defining and developing large
software systems which are used by non-programmers.
 
Read the Zuboff book, if you haven't already!!
 
Fred Wedemeier    pho: 214-997-3213     ax: 214-997-3639
                timsg: fcw             inet: fcw@pioneer.telecom.ti.com
 
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Followup-To: 
From: fcw@telecom.ti.com (Fred Wedemeier)
Reply-To: fcw@telecom.ti.com
Organization: TI Telecom Systems, Dallas
Subject: Re: Newsgroup proposal: alt.amateur-computerist
Summary: 
Keywords: 
 
In article 28125@news.ysu.edu, ae547@yfn.ysu.edu (Ronda Hauben) writes:
> 
>               alt.amateur-computerist Charter
at we know of where issues involving
> computers and workers are dealt with.
> 
 
I think you're proposing two separate things here. If the charter if
the group focuses solely on "The Amateur Computerist" newsletter, you'd
have a very limited readership - not that that's necessarily bad,
considering some of the other stuff in the alt heirarchy.
 
If, instead, the charter of the group relates to the larger issues
involving computers and workers, as you suggest in your closing
paragraph, the group would be of a lot wider interest.
yment, workplaces, careers.
> sci.med.occupational    Preventing, detecting & treating occupational injuries.
 
I don't think these address your concerns. From what I read into your
posting, the issues you want to deal with are addressed in the
excellent, excellent, excellent, book, "In the Age of the Smart
ork and presents us
  with a fateful choice. Professor Zuboff demonstrates that computers may
  merely further automate blue- and white-coller jobs, achieving
  unprecedented speed and consistancy, robbing workers of whatever skill
  and gratification they may retain, and increasing the impersonality and
  remoteness of management. That same technology, however, may
  "informate," empowering ordinary working people with overall knowledge
  of the production process, making them capable of critical and
  collaborative judgements about production and distribution. As these
  new opportunities unfold, the function of management and the
  conventions of work organization are transfigured. Ironically, Zuboff
  argues, if those in command choose to automate rather than "informate,"
  many of the commercial advantages of computer-guided administration,
  production, and distribution will be lost.
 
If these are the kinds of things you want to address, I suggest you
re-name the group and broaden the charter. I _don't_ think my viewpoint
and opinions will match yours [ :-) ], but I look forward to a lively
discussion!
 
-- 
Ronda Hauben                    email address:ae547@yfn.ysu.edu
Amateur Computerist Newsletter              or
P.O. Box 4344                   rhauben@heartland.bradley.edu
Dearborn, MI 48126
From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Newsgroups: alt.amateur-comp
Subject: Re: To love and have fun
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:59:18 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Amateur vs professional?

There's no clear cut line. 

There are some cases -- I wouldn't want to use an 'amateur'
UNIX operating system or C compiler, but by the same token
the language perl comes out of an 'amateur computerist' 
spirit.

Although, really, *I* don't see what Adam (yawn) Smith has to
do with computers, and aren't really sure if 'C' is suited for an
amateur. And do you seriously write an integrated programming
environment in Visual Basic? 

There's no way to draw a *specific* line, so just use the spirit
of the Amateur Computerist.

Scott
Xref: sparky alt.manga:2176 rec.arts.manga:891 rec.arts.anime:18400
From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Newsgroups: alt.manga,rec.arts.manga,rec.arts.anime
Subject: Manga and anime-related stuff for sale
Date: 8 Sep 92 02:23:56 GMT
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way

I'm moving in about a week, and rather than lugging everything, I figure
I'll try to sell some stuff and cut down on how much I have to move (and
maybe make a few bucks to boot 8-).  All prices are NEGOTIABLE - if you
see something you want but think I'm asking for too much, make an offer.
Prices do not include shipping, but if you buy a lot of stuff from me,
I'll probably throw it in for free.  OK, here goes:

	Translated Manga
2001 Nights 1			$3.95
Baoh 1-8			$2.95 ea.
Cobra 1-6			$2.95 ea.
	7-12			$3.25 ea.
Crying Freeman Part 3 1-10	$4.95 ea.
	Part 4 1,2		$4.95 ea.
Gokuu Midnight Eye 1,2		$4.95 ea.
Golgo 13: The Professional 1-3	$4.95 ea.
The Lost Continent 1-6		$3.50 ea.

	Untranslated (i.e. original) manga
Cat's Eye vol. 6,9		$4 ea.
Fool for the City		$10
Gokuu: Midnight Eye Vol. 1-3	$10 ea.
Guyver vol 1 (big volume)	$5

	Misc.
Animage Vo. 163 (Jan. 1992)	$5
The Humanoid OAV		$20
Dominion Act I			$25
 (both are USMC-subtitled tapes)

	T-shirts
I have both of the AnimeCon '91 t-shirts for sale (Noriko on the
front, Rally from Gun Smith Cats on the back of one; Harlock on the
front, Nadia on the back of the other).  Large.  $10 ea.

I also have two custom-made t-shirts for sale.  The pictures are a
thermoplastic transfer (which are shiny and give the shirts a unique
feel), and the detail on them is truly superb, MUCH better than your
average t-shirt.  These shirts were NOT cheap, and after seeing how
good the images came out, I'm sure you'll see why.  They're both in very
good condition - I tried to take good care of them.
The first one is a double-sided Nausicaa t-shirt.  On the front there
  is a picture of Nausicaa standing on an Ohmu and on the back is a picture
  of Nausicaa holding a rifle, flanked by two of her followers (it's the
  same picture that appeared on the cover of Viz's Nausicaa Part 1 vol. 3
  but without the Viz title and stuff over it).  Both are Miyazaki watercolors
  and look magnificent.  On a large white t-shirt.  $30
The second shirt is an Appleseed one.  On the front is the color picture
  of Deunan with an eyepatch and Briareos with Olympus' nightscape behind
  them.  This picture was split between the covers of Eclipse's Appleseed
  vol. 4 issues 1 and 3; a gif is floating around on one of the FTP sites.
  On an extra-large white t-shirt.  $20
  
Please E-mail me any offers for the stuff.
-- 
Bill "Whassamatter?!  Can't you take a joke?!" Barnes   wbarnes@sura.net
Disclaimer:  The author apologizes for any thought-provoking material he may
	     have accidentally included and promises not to do it again.
Datclaimer:  My employers wouldn't WANT to share some of my opinions.
Newsgroups: alt.manga,rec.arts.manga
From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Subject: Gunnm ripoff in SS
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:48:57 GMT
Originator: irsincla@uts.EDU.AU

In SS this week, there was a short story with a post-apocalyptic NY
setting - 'Midnight Angel' by Hiramatsu Tsutomu.  The most striking thing
about it was that several characters have been rather... "inspired" by Gunnm
(Gally, Jasugan, Id, etc).  I don't recommend checking it out, though. ^_^


(...still looking for Young Magazine #28 1990, now offering US$50...)
From: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU (James Chiu)
Newsgroups: alt.manga
Subject: GunSmith Cats 1 for sale
Date: 9 Sep 1992 19:48:09 GMT
Organization: University of California Society of Electrical Engineers (UCSEE)
Distribution: world
Reply-To: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsee.berkeley.edu
Summary: For Sale
Keywords: GunSmith Cats, Kenichi Sonoda, Kodansha

I'm posting this for a friend, so please do not reply to this message.
Please contact him directly.

GunSmith Cat vol.1 for sale. Retailed Y590, selling for $6.00 plus shipping.
Interested parties please contact Ronnie Kwong at 408-259-9134.

Shipping charges is probably $5.00 (padded mailer is around $2.00, priority
second-day mail is $2.90)

Shipping charges can be avoided if you can either pick up or send a
self-address and stamped mailer.
Xref: sparky alt.manga:2178 rec.arts.anime:18585 rec.arts.manga:905
From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Newsgroups: alt.manga,rec.arts.anime,rec.arts.manga
Subject: Anime and manga stuff for sale
Date: 10 Sep 92 04:55:07 GMT
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way

I still have some stuff left from my moving-out-of-my-apartment sale -
I'm moving in about a week, and rather than lugging everything, I figure
I'll try to sell some stuff and cut down on how much I have to move (and
maybe make a few bucks to boot 8-).  All prices are NEGOTIABLE - if you
see something you want but think I'm asking for too much, make an offer.
Prices do not include shipping, but if you buy a lot of stuff from me,
I might throw it in for free.  OK, here goes:

	Translated Manga	Indiv.		Set
2001 Nights 1			$3.00
Baoh 1-8			$2.95		$20
Cobra 1-6			$2.95		$15
	7-12			$3.25		$18
Crying Freeman Part 3 1-10	$4.95		$40
	Part 4 1,2		$4.95		$8
Gokuu Midnight Eye 1,2		$4.95		$8
Golgo 13: The Professional 1-3	$4.95		$12
The Lost Continent 1-6		$3.50		$20

	Anime/manga inspired comics
Lensman 1-6			$2.25		$12
	War of the Galaxies 1-5	$2.25		$10
Robotech: Genesis 1,2		$2.50		$4
Robotech II: Cyberpirates 1-4	$2.25		$8

	USMC subtitled video tapes
The Humanoid			$15
Dominion Act I			$20

	T-shirts
I have both of the AnimeCon '91 t-shirts for sale (Noriko on the
front, Rally from Gun Smith Cats on the back of one; Harlock on the
front, Nadia on the back of the other).  Large.  $10 ea.

I also have one custom-made Nausicaa t-shirt for sale.  The pictures
are a thermoplastic transfer (which are shiny and give the shirt a
unique feel), and the detail on them is truly superb, MUCH better than
your average t-shirt.  This shirt was NOT cheap, and after seeing how
good the images came out, I'm sure you'll see why.  On the front there
is a picture of Nausicaa standing on an Ohmu and on the back is a
picture of Nausicaa holding a rifle, flanked by two of her followers
(it's the same picture that appeared on the cover of Viz's Nausicaa
Part 1 vol. 3 but without the Viz title and stuff over it).  Both are
Miyazaki watercolors and look magnificent.  On a large white t-shirt.  $30

-- 
Bill "Whassamatter?!  Can't you take a joke?!" Barnes   wbarnes@sura.net
Disclaimer:  The author apologizes for any thought-provoking material he may
	     have accidentally included and promises not to do it again.
Datclaimer:  My employers wouldn't WANT to share some of my opinions.
From: jblack@outb.wimsey.bc.ca (Josh Black)
Newsgroups: alt.manga
Subject: Manga translations
Date: 13 Sep 92 21:19:40 PDT
Organization: Wizard Online

 Would someone ever so kind enough to point me in the right direction(FTP site) with a bountiful supply of manga translations.

Thanx....Josh jblack@outb.wimsey.bc.ca

--- Via UCI v1.02 (C-Net Amiga)
From: wang@ocf.berkeley.edu (Albert Sze-Wei Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.manga
Subject: Re: Shiro's Intron Depot 1?
Date: 14 Sep 1992 00:59:13 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbang.berkeley.edu

In article <gaJTPB2w164w@whitebase.ukp.com> dragonfl@whitebase.ukp.com (Chris Hull) writes:
>  On the back of a Dark Horse comic I bought yesterday, I found an 
>advertisement for something called Intron Depot 1, a collection of Masamune 
>Shirow's full color works.  This sounds suspiciously like a translated 
>version of something a friend of mine just bought in Japan.  Is there a 
>Japanese compilation of Shirow's color stuff?



The "English" Version and the "Japanese" Version are one in the same.
Studio Proteus helped translate the book and it is being released in the
US and Japan simultaneously.  The only difference is that the Japanese
version is tons cheaper in price.  Markup on this side of the Pacific
was quite high.


Albert


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Newsgroups: alt.manga
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:48:15 -0600
From: Kerry Lee <kerry@griffin.cuc.ab.ca>
To: alt-manga@darwin.sura.net
Subject: Unsubscribe

unsubscribe kerry@griffin.cuc.ab.ca
From: lev@dftnic.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian S. Lev)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: Re: Vanessa Williams
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:58:00 GMT
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. USA
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1992Sep10.122130.994@alf.uib.no>, db83@hp825.bih.no (Tim Ove Vassdal) writes...
>Hi There
> 
> I saw an artical that said that former miss america  vanessa williams have been posing in Playboy a time ago. Does anyone
>know what isue ?

Actually, it was in Penthouse, and they ran _two_ pictorials on her.  The 
first cost her the Miss America crown, and the second came about 6-9 months
later when the original photog needed to make another payment on his house
<grin>.  I have the first issue... DEFINITELY a sexy lady!

Incidentally, within about a year, the Czech entrant for the Miss World
pageant and the French entrant from the Miss Universe pageant both lost
their crowns for similar reasons... I'll have to look up the issues, but
the Czech lady was in an old "Mayfair" and the ex-Miss France showed up
in a number of different U.S. and European mags...

..and no, I _don't" have a usable scanner!  :-(

-- Brian

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Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: st1n0@elroy.uh.edu (SPEAKER FOR THE DEAD*)
Subject: Re: Tell me about Kathy Ireland....
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 07:34:00 GMT

In article <y_vnq8+.cmilono@netcom.com>, cmilono@netcom.com (Carlo Milono) writes...
>Kathy is a certified "Home Brewer"...talk to her about brewing and good suds!
>She was on the cover of Zymurgy, the publication from the National Homebrewers
>Association.  This is a hobby of mine, in case you didn't guess.

What the heck be a "Home Brewer"?????

		Forgive the ignorant one,
				-SPEAKER*

Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: st1n0@jane.uh.edu (SPEAKER FOR THE DEAD*)
Subject: Re: Tell me about Kathy Ireland....
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:22:00 GMT

In article <18khhuINN4q7@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cf043@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Lance K. Chun) writes...
> 
>In a previous article, st1n0@jane.uh.edu (SPEAKER FOR THE DEAD*) says:
> 
>>The subject says it all... talk to me :)
>>Anything and everything...
>>
>>			-SPEAKER*
> 
>Not that I care, but I live a few houses away from her; then again, she is
>not home most of the time. Yet I still find it interesting that I pass her
>house everday heading toward school.
> 
>I've never like Kathy, her face is horrible; so square and bold, more
>characteristic of a male's face.
> 
>Lance

Well, since ya don't seem to mind too much..how about switching houses
for a bit? :)

			-SPEAKER*
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Subject: Has the *UTTER BABE* in "Honeymoon in Vegas" done modelling?
X-Disclaimer: Not an official spokesperson for Ford OPEO
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
Organization: International Affairs, Overseas Engineering, "Fordz"
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:21:27 GMT

Saw that over Laborious Day weekend and I was smitten... err...
impressed.  What else has Sarah Jessica Parker (sp?) done?  

						...Mike

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Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Subject: Re: Has the *UTTER BABE* in "Honeymoon in Vegas" done modelling?
X-Disclaimer: Not an official spokesperson for Ford OPEO
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
Organization: International Affairs, Overseas Engineering, "Fordz"
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:03:54 GMT


Has Sarah Jessica Parker done any modelling, however?

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Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: andy@b30.ingr.com (Andrew Brezinski)
Subject: Re: Kim Bassinger Gif
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:56:09 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.122558.26551@bnr.ca> tracyb@bnr.ca writes:
>Can someone who got the Kim B gif to work UUENCODE it and post it?
>
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Or even send it to an anonymous ftp site.

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Huntsville, AL 35894-0001
From: lev@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian S. Lev)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: Re: calendars
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:51:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. USA
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <14SEP199219570682@jane.uh.edu>, st1n0@jane.uh.edu (SPEAKER FOR THE DEAD*) writes...
>In article <14SEP199213521878@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov>, lev@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian S. Lev) writes...
>>She's been in several issues of Playboy since being a Playmate (her first
>>pix were in one of the "Girls of ... Schools" issues), and also showed up
>>in a number of their lingerie books.
>> 
>>...Hmmm... amazing what one remembers, isn't it?!?  :-)
>> 
>>-- Brian
>> 
>Care to name a few of the issue dates for the Playboy appearances? And 
>what lingerie books? :)
>Thanx in advance...

This is NOT the first such request I've seen!  :-)  :-)   Gimme a coupla
days, folks, and I'll see what I can find...

-- Brian

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Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: hreutte@andy.bgsu.edu (hans reutter)
Subject: Bruce Springs. Video
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:29:42 GMT

well, maybe not the right group but when it comes
to girls you guys seem to know everything...

i 've seen the 'dancing in the dark'-video by
the boss lately and wonder if the girl is
cortney cox (or so) from the tv-series
'misfits of science' (yup - years ago)?

if you know - please let me know

thanks in advance

-h.r.
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: dmatt@iastate.edu (Daniel I Matt)
Subject: Elle GIFs
Keywords: Elle, VERY little clothing, WOW!!!
 
   For those of you interested in Elle GIFs, someone posted a couple GIFS from
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 01:06:44 GMT
From: tso@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Dan Ts'o)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: Re: picture spesialists
Date: 11 Sep 1992 07:00:22 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston,Tx

In article <1992Sep7.071306.20921@hsr.no> vagle@hsr.no (Lars Vagle) writes:
>I have the good old WINGIF program for Windows (IBM PC).
>But in Windows 3.1 it will not display gif pictures.
>An error message "Unable to read image discription" displays
>each time I try to display a GIF picture.

	I have used WINGIF 1.4 with Windows 3.1 without any special problems
(I say it like that, because WINGIF bombs on certain GIF's, particularly big
ones, but it does that witih Windows 3.0 too.)
	I assume have Window 3.1 installed with appropriate 256 color drivers 
(although I think WINGIF actually does something appropriate even with 16color
drivers).
	Don't know what your problem could be (other than corrupted GIFs,
too little memory (are you trying to run in realmode perhaps, etc.)...
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Subject: Re: Have Regular Guys dated Supermodels?
X-Disclaimer: Not an official spokesperson for Ford OPEO
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
Organization: International Affairs, Overseas Engineering, "Fordz"
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:43:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.171424.20714@bmerh85.bnr.ca> gihan@bnr.ca writes:
:The title says it all.
:This maybe a dumb question but this inquiring mind wants to know.
:By 'regular' I mean - not famous sportsmen, actors, royalty, millionaires etc.
:You get the drift.

Before or after they became supermodels?  

						...Mike




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