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From: rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (Randy Sopicki)
Subject: Re: Werewolves...
Organization: ProLine [pro-amber] -- Spring Valley, Ca
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 16:05:43 PDT

In <harris.717404242@drvax3> harris@drvax3.msfc.nasa.gov (Mitch Harris) writes:

>fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie) writes:
>
>>	Is there a group for those interested in lycanthropy?  I mean, if
>>alt.vampyres exists, isn't it only fair?
>
>Yeah, I think this'd be a great idea!
>

I too agree. Lycanthropy should have its own group too. I know I would pick
it up here at pro-amber.


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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Killing your neighborhood vampire
Date: 28 Sep 92 01:08:54 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1a0kc4INNkka@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, kat@wpi.WPI.EDU (Flame's Passion) 

>>Complete immersion in running water.
 
> How come?  I never heard this before.

I have no idea why, but this is a way to kill a vampire, at least
one used by Hollywood.  ("BOO, HISS!"  "Hey, I like movies!")

I think it was a Christopher Lee vamp film where he was walking across
an ice covered river, and the hero short a few holes in the ice.  Lee
dropped into the running river, to his death.

Greg Bole                              "I haven't seen this many sideburns
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu                  since West Side Story."
                                       Nicholas Cage in _Honeymoon in Vegas_
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara)
Subject: Re: Innocent Blood
Date: 02 Oct 92 20:40:42 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <markus.54.717954163@clement.info.umoncton.ca> markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN) writes:
>
>	The vampire legend began with count Dracula who made a deal with 
>Satan to have eternal youth and fight God.  What I saw in the movie is way 
>over the original legend.
>

     Where did you ever get this idea?  Vampire legends are _far_, _far_
older than Dracula.

     Next you'll be saying that Tolkien invented elves.  Sheesh.

				-Phil

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From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Innocent Blood
Date: 1 Oct 92 08:57:56 -0300
Distribution: alt
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <markus.43.717863735@clement.info.umoncton.ca>, markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN) writes:
> In article <SPIKE.92Sep24130818@coke.std.com> spike@coke.std.com (Joe Ilacqua) writes:
>>From: spike@coke.std.com (Joe Ilacqua)
>>Subject: Innocent Blood
>>Date: 24 Sep 92 18:08:18 GMT
> 
> 
>>        I saw "Innocent Blood" last night.  The TV ads have made it
>>look stupid, but I got a free pass, so I went.  It is awesome.  If you
>>liked An American Werewolf In London, you will like Innocent Blood
>>(both are directed by John Landis).  It is the same sort of very funny
>>horror movie.
> 
> 
> 	C'mon!!  Do you really think a vawpire can go in a church??  The 
> wampires in 'Innocent Blood' doesn't have fangs.  They chew their victims' 
> neck and then suck their blood.  I found the movie stupid.  They're not 
> vapires.
> 

Well, you're entitled to your opinion, but I really liked the movie. True,
Marie didn't have fangs, but she *did* suck their blood. SHe was just quite a
bit messier about it than in other vampire movies. Plus the whole "vampire
in the Church" thing is Christian propaganda; the vampire myth predates 
Christanity.


Mike
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: "no such thing" (was: Vampire Victims Needed for TV Interview!)
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:09:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <JBW.92Oct3191500@bigbird.bu.edu> jbw@bigbird.bu.edu (Joe Wells) writes:
>In article <fletch.717982508@camelot> fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie) writes:
>
>   HOWEVER, there is no such thing as an "undead" creature which will live
>   eternally unless a stake is planted in it's heart!
>
>I'd love to see your "proof" of this "fact".

I'd love to see your proof that there IS an " 'undead' creature which will live
eternally unless a stake is planted in its heart!".

Those making the unusual claims should be the ones supplying the unusually
strong evidence.

But anyway...
-- 
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"Boy, do I love PLASTIC!" -- TJ Teru // What was your question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: peircga2@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Glenn Peirce)
Subject: Re: Vampire Victims Needed for TV Interview!
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:21:09 GMT

In article <fletch.717901884@camelot> fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie) writes:
>
>
>	Oh, come on!  Where do they find these people?  THERE ARE NO SUCH
>THINGS AS VAMPIRES!!!!  Get a clue!  It's okay for a fun fantasy, but let's
>try to keep things in perspective!  This woman is making some fast money
>off those people stupid enough to believe in such rubbish!
>
>- The belief that there are no vampires is no better supported than the
 belief that there are vampires.  The vampire legend has existed at least as far back as written history (the Egyptians did refer to immortal blood-suckers:
 Anne Rice got that right!) and in every culture around the globe.  For a
 legend to be so widely distributed requires at least a modicum of truth.
 Suffice it to say that if vampires do exist, they are keeping themselves as
 well hidden as sasquatch and Nessie.  If they do not exist, then there is
 something inate to human culture that clings to such a widespread belief.

   I myself will accept that there are vampires.  The numbers don't lie--
 they deceive!


This is my very first net message and I'm just learning the ropes, so I guess
I don't have a signature yet.  So for now I am just plain Glenn.

 -


Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie)
Subject: Re: Vampire Victims Needed for TV Interview!
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date:  1 Oct 92 01:11:24 GMT

In <1adc1jINNjo1@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn) writes:


>	Carol Page is the author of a book on modern vampires and victims
>and even vampire hunters.  "Blood Lust -- Conversations with Real Vampires"
>Through her bodyguard during the interviews for her book comes an offer to
>be on TV.

>The producer of the TV show "Night Talk" is having a halloween show with
>witches and vampires (really) and is seeking vampires and vampire victims
> -- victims in the sense of providing blood for vampires -- it may be a 
>willing donation.  They are offering a ticket to Boston and accomodations
>during the filming.  Please reply to my account or contact Rich Grant at
>(800)795-5970.

>	Yeah I know, this sounds like a hoax or a fake post.  Well if you're
>not serious, then yeah it is.  But if you're actually interested, give Rich
>a call and tell him that you got the number from Matthew.

	Oh, come on!  Where do they find these people?  THERE ARE NO SUCH
THINGS AS VAMPIRES!!!!  Get a clue!  It's okay for a fun fantasy, but let's
try to keep things in perspective!  This woman is making some fast money
off those people stupid enough to believe in such rubbish!

--

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fletch@camelot.bradley.edu - Alan S. "I'm majoring in Superheroism" Lurie, Esq.
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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: lsheehan@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Lillith
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 00:20:15 GMT

	Whoa.... hang on.  As a recovering Catholic, I thought I'd throw in my
$.02.. Lillith was *not* one of the "fallen" with Lucifer... she was Adam's
first wife.  God created Lillith out of the dust along with Adam, thereby
making her equal to Adam.  Adam apparently didn't like the fact that Lillith
was a "liberated woman" (some say he got upset cause Lillith would only have
sex if she could be on top =) ), and told God to do something about it.  So God
took Lillith away and made her mother of all demons (hence, then, if you
believe the sex story, the origin of "sex only in the missionary position".)
and monsters.  Gaiman does a really great Lillith in Sandman Season of Mists 1. 
Just to continue (I love seeing my posts.  =) ), God then created another wife
for Adam (her name escapes me at the moment)... but the problem with this one
was he watched as she was created (bones, then muscle, fat, skin, hair,
etc...), and this sort of grossed him out.  He wouldn't touch her, so God sent
her away, and put Adam to sleep so that he could create Eve.
	Well, that sums up the story, boys and girls.  Take care..  and always
cover up....

				lisa
				lsheehan@hamp.hampshire.edu
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Pale blood
From: bmoser@zeus.calpoly.edu (The Vampire (Brett Moser))
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 16:34:43 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

bkdavis@eos.ncsu.edu (B K DAVIS) writes:
>
>Has anyone seen pale Blood. It is a very good movie. I am sure that you
>guys and gals will like it a lot.

mind giving us a hint as to what it is about? i personally have never heard
of the movie, a little more information would be appreciated. thanks!

-Brett
-- 
"Ph-nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"
"In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming"
				
bmoser@nike.calpoly.edu                                   I am a Vampire
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: jordan@cs.tulane.edu (Grizabella)
Subject: Re: Vampire Victims Needed for TV Interview!
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:26:53 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-25138]: sparta

>fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie) writes:
>
>>>The producer of the TV show "Night Talk" is having a halloween show with
>>>witches and vampires (really) and is seeking vampires and vampire victims
>>> -- victims in the sense of providing blood for vampires -- it may be a
>>>willing donation.  They are offering a ticket to Boston and accomodations
>>>during the filming.  Please reply to my account or contact Rich Grant at
>>>(800)795-5970.
>
>>      Oh, come on!  Where do they find these people?  THERE ARE NO SUCH
>>THINGS AS VAMPIRES!!!!  Get a clue!  It's okay for a fun fantasy, but let's
>>try to keep things in perspective!  This woman is making some fast money
>                                                               ^^^^^^^
>>off those people stupid enough to believe in such rubbish!
>
If I were you, I'd watch my neck, bud!
:-)=

Meow...
-- 
			 ||     "I'm a woman, and can't be taken for granted.
Misti D. Jordan          ||           Life's a bitch... now so am I."
jordan@cs.tulane.edu     ||                         -- CatWoman
   "To love another person is to see the face of God..." -- Les Miserables
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: watpod72@alfred.carleton.ca (George Bragg)
Subject: Re: Vampire Victims Needed for TV Interview!
Organization: Carleton University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:18:57 GMT

In <fletch.717901884@camelot> fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie) writes:

>	Oh, come on!  Where do they find these people?  THERE ARE NO SUCH
>THINGS AS VAMPIRES!!!!  Get a clue!  It's okay for a fun fantasy, but let's
>try to keep things in perspective!  This woman is making some fast money
>off those people stupid enough to believe in such rubbish!

No such thing as undead creatures who have no reflection, maybe...

However, there are people out there who believe they are vampires, who
do drink blood, and who probably don't want to be on tv anyway...  :)
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Lillith
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:38:40 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

|>and monsters.  Gaiman does a really great Lillith in Sandman Season of Mists 1. 

Actually, Gaiman's Lillith can be seen in a story in the
Parliament of Rooks (the one with the "L'il Death" on the cover) in the
Convergence series of shorts in the Sandman comic.

-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - CTHULHU in '92! Why vote for LESSER evils?
"Boy, do I love PLASTIC!" -- TJ Teru // What was your question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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From: hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Varney the Vampire?
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:44:19 GMT
Organization: Open Communications Forum


Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the entire story.  I know you can
get an excerpt in the Penguin Book of Vampires, but I want the whole thing.
Do they still publish it?

	-Casey 
	hopkins@agora.rain.com
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: cgc2646@usl.edu (Cech Claude G)
Subject: Re: Vampire Victims Needed for TV Interview!
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:14:09 GMT


In article <fletch.717901884@camelot> fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie) writes:
>In <1adc1jINNjo1@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn) writes:
>
>
>>	Carol Page is the author of a book on modern vampires and victims
>>and even vampire hunters.  "Blood Lust -- Conversations with Real Vampires"
>>Through her bodyguard during the interviews for her book comes an offer to
>>be on TV.
>
>	Oh, come on!  Where do they find these people?  THERE ARE NO SUCH
>THINGS AS VAMPIRES!!!!  Get a clue!  It's okay for a fun fantasy, but let's
>try to keep things in perspective!  This woman is making some fast money
>off those people stupid enough to believe in such rubbish!
>
>

Didn't read her book, huh?  Well, its been a while since I have, too (if
it is the same book I'm thinking of.  Someone out there confirm?).  I
don't recall it with a great deal of fondness.  But, she does have an
interesting interview (last chapter, if memory serves) with a woman whose
sexual practices involve drinking a bit of her partner's blood.  THAT is
what is meant by "Real Vampires," NOT the undead types.  And yes, there
are people with such sexual practices...

Cheers (Here's drinking from you, kid) -

	Claude

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From: earp@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James K Earp)
Subject: Re: A Vampire Tragidy
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 21:13:23 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.203754.6154@news.iastate.edu> txdv1@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
>Chapter 1:A Dashing of Hopes
>
>	She looks out her window, it's still rianing. It had been raining sense
>about 9 o'clock yesterday. A steady, sleeting sort of rain. The grayness of 
>the past day or so countinued to where almost every one down, almost everyone.
>It didnt, wouldnt touch her. It wouldnt be able to touch her if it countinued
>a week or even a year. She turns from the window. She still cant beleave that
>today she is going to marry her love, Johan Lenvel. 
>	Hes an artist, a painter, thats how she met him.    He sales his 
>paintings on the street. Hed seen her going by several times and felt that he
>had to paint her. She agreed to sit for him whin he asked. That was how they
>they met and only the begining.    She poised for him there, were he was
>selling his work.     He was,like most painters, poor. Later on in the 
>romance she had diner with him in his humble flat.


(Long, exasperated sigh!)  The style of this story intrigues me, but I
must say the careless spelling errors put me off so strongly, I will 
not bother to read the rest.  Aggravation tends to destroy the pleasure
of reading when *so many* of these errors pollute a written piece.
Please, people, if you're going to go to the trouble of typing in a
story, take a few minutes to proofread it, or run a spellchecker over
the file!  Otherwise you're wasting the time of all those who might 
otherwise enjoy your work.

Flame off.
From: kat@wpi.WPI.EDU (Flame's Passion)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Vampire Victims Needed for TV Interview!
Date: 7 Oct 92 02:44:24 GMT
Followup-To: alt.flame
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <1992Oct05.174501.20467@microsoft.com> philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara) writes:
>In article <fletch.718043897@camelot> fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie) writes:

[flame war about unproven science deleted]

I doubt that this newsgroup was created to provide a flaming ground for a bunch
of scientists.  It was created to discuss folklore and vampires and such....
Please take your flame war where it belongs, alt.flame.

Thank you....
From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Iman
Date: 27 Sep 92 14:49:51 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <acgzj=b@rpi.edu>, battlec@cs.rpi.edu (Clark Battle) writes:
> *Funny, I can't remember the name of the tribe, but I *just* read a book that
> *mentions a tribe of fair skinned, fair haired, blue eyed Africans. No kidding.
> *Anyone know the name of the tribe?
> 
> *Mike
> 
> 
> There is a large tribe of them in South Africa, but nobody likes them.

Nonono that isn't what I meant ;-). The tribe is in the NORTH of Africa, and 
they are apparently indigenous. I can't remember the name of the book, but I 
*do* remember the passage.


Mike
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: bkdavis@eos.ncsu.edu (B K DAVIS)
Subject: Forever Night 29th
Originator: bkdavis@c00080-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: bkdavis@eos.ncsu.edu (B K DAVIS)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:13:21 GMT


Last night was a very good show. I would like to know more about that club
called Raven. It seems to be pretty hype. I expected Nick's buddy to be toasted
when he was about to open that door. Talk about close calls. WHew !
Did anyone else see it and what did ya think ?

Brian
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: felis@wucs1.wustl.edu (Felis Lynx)
Subject: Re: god(Lowercase Intended)
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:11:57 GMT


In article <6_lzccf@rpi.edu> battlec@cs.rpi.edu writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.214318.159951@zeus.calpoly.edu>, molsen@zeus.calpoly.edu (Mark David Olsen) writes:
>|> In article <92272.032804SWR103@psuvm.psu.edu> Sean Rearick <SWR103@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>|> >Just like to make a comment.  I've been an athiest for the past 6 years.
>|> >While this may not interest anyone, the reason for my desicion is from
>|> >'The Vampire Lestat'.  Before reading it I hadn't really thought about god,
>|> >just sort of took it for granted.  However, the part in the book, when
>|> >Lestat realizes that there is no god, got me thinking.  I basicaly
>|> >decided that he was right.  Anyone else's life affected by the 'Vampire
>|> >Chronicles' this strongly?
>|> 
>|> I have to agree with what is said here.  I have been an athiest for a good
>|> number of years now and the 'Vampire Chronicles' only strengthened my
>|> beliefs.  'The Queen of the Damned' led me to beleive the reality of spirits
>|> (plus other events in my life have aided in this) but the Legend of the
>|> Twins definately helped.  It is one of the first 'histories' of early man
>|> that I feel makes sense.  Anyway, just wanted to throw my two bits in.
>|> 
>
>
>	This is FICTION people! Y`know...make-believe!  Are we that desperate
>	for truth that we resort to fairy tales as the basis for a belief 
>	system.  Might you start reciting the "litany against fear" and 
>	destroying computers after reading DUNE? These stories are meant to
>	entertain not profess truth.  The only reliabe source of truth is the
>	real world around us.  Fiction presents ideas, not answers.
>
>
>	

What's wrong with FICTION?  There's a work of fiction that a LARGE number of
people have been taking as the basis for their lives for many centuries now.
I'll agree, it's not that bad, and it does has some basis in fact.  But the
authors didn't seem to know when to quit.  They kept dragging out sequels in
order for people to keep following or just to make a buck.  Quite a bit like
the Dragonlance series, and I've seen how some people can react to the
Dragonlance series....  Coming back to the first point, what's wrong with
basing some of your life on fiction?  There are some very interesting ideas
buried in a lot of books.  Is there anything wrong with using these ideas or
mutating them into something they like better.  The whole world is based on
personal belief, and not necessarily on personal experience....

Felis Lynx


Newsgroups: alt.vampyres,rec.arts.tv
From: ueh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Eric Hausgaard)
Subject: Re: Forever Knight (9/22 Episode)
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 23:19:22 GMT

[Stuff that could be interesting, but wasn't, was deleted]


>Celeste
>
>P.S.  Natalie, a good character?  I beg to differ.  Her role in the season
>premier was just terrible.  In one episode the screenwriters managed to destroy 
>all of the character development from the last season.  She was supposed to be 
>turning Nick away from his vampire nature, and then she goes and blows it all
>just to make her brother immortal.  I guess we can't be too harsh though, continuity
>is primarilly a big-budget tv show thing.
How come I didn't know (A) she had a brother.
                        (B) she made her brother immortal???

Wha?????
LLAP


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