HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sek@cbnews.cb.att.com (stephanie.e.kearns)
Subject: A flock of peeves
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:05:56 GMT


A few peeves:

1) Both of my supervisors sit within four feet of me...One of them
snaps gum and chews like a cow, the other clicks a marker cap when he
is talking to someone...You know, a nervous habit like clicking a pen,
which you're never aware of, but drives someone listening nuts.  Only
this is a BIG marker with a BIG cap that makes a big SNAP...

2)Getting the bright idea a year and a half ago to get a degree in
Commercial Art, being 3/4 of the way done, but now have the stupid
electives to take, i.e. Western Civilization, Math, and Small Business
Management.  And being sick of it all at this point.

3)  Having my first midterm tonight in fourteen years.  All the classes
I've been taking were art classes, that only required art projects.
Not regurgitation of ridiculously unimportant material..  I don't even
remember how to study.   :*p

!peeve Cold weather has been lasting longer than usual around here, so
I get to wear my leather jacket longer...

Peeve related to !peeve  I want the warm weather!

Stephanie

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Stephanie Kearns                          "A point in every direction 
AT&T Network Systems                       is the same as no point at all"     
No. Andover, MA                                             -Harry Nilsson 
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From: dmunroe@gollum.wr.tek.com (David Munroe)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Bogroll Peeve
Date: 13 Apr 92 04:39:20 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc

In article <31431@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk> Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford) writes:


		[ !Al describes the "Cresta Toilet Tissue System" ]

An excellent peeve.  This very same "Tissue System" is now showing up here
and I cannot think of one single improvement it has over the conventional
dispenser.  The "rabid wolverine" effect Al describes is enhanced when the
previous "customer" of said dispenser pulls the tissue out at an angle.  This
causes the tissue to crowd together in the corner where it cannot be torn off
very well.  Furthermore, when you have to reach up into the dispenser, the
stupid plastic teeth scrape your hand.  You also have to wonder about the
hygienic consequences of sticking your hand up into this dispenser -- public
men's rooms are filthy enough without finding little surprises in the tissue
dispenser.

-Dave
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From: pyoung@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk (Peter Young)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.good.news
Subject: Re: Recession anti-peeves
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:14:40 GMT
Reply-To: pyoung@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom Labs

From article <19823@castle.ed.ac.uk>, by fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes):

> They're gonna plough a billion into the economy to "kick-start" it.

Peeve: Politicians who spout on about "kick-starting" the economy. Evidently
they know even less about motorcycles than they do about politics.

Virtually all modern motorcycles, and even Harley Davidsons and BMWs, are
fitted with self-starters, not kick-starters. The only thing you are
likely to find with a kick-starter these days (apart from wimpy 2-strokes
which can be started by hand, by 7-year-olds) are ancient British 
motorcycles. WIth the notable and wonderful exception of Triumph, there is no
modern British motorcycle industry ,due in part to the failure of anyone to
invest in modernising the industry.

Some hope. There's as much chance of this economy self-starting itself
as there is of , er, something which isn't very likely.

Peeve: I'd like to vote for the Monster Raving Loony party but they haven't
	got a candidate in this area. Presumably on the grounds that they
	couldn't come up with a bigger raving loony than the incumbent, one
	John Fuckwitt-Gummer (the wart man).

> FoFP

Peeve: Not being in on the joke.

What does this mean? Friends of Functional Programming? Fuck off fast, Pete?
Enquiring minds.....
	

  ____________________________________________________________________
  Pete Young         pyoung@axion.bt.co.uk        Phone +44 473 645054
             BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, IPSWICH IP5 7RE UK
   "There are two kinds of jazz, and they're both crap" - Alexei Sayle
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Subject: Re: Amurrica (was Re: peeve dump)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1992 14:28:56 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <ku6b1nINN8kl@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Lee Kuan Yew) writes:
>
>
>In article <31235@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk> pwg@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Goldberg) writes:
>
>>Peeve: Reading this newsgroup gives the impression that the above
>>nation is full of people obsessed with guns, whose attitude seems to
>>be "don't leave home without one". Despite this, there remains some
>>semblance of law and order over there, where a state of complete
>>anarchy would appear to be well-deserved.
>
>Some people like to fire guns, either at targets or while hunting.  Neither
>activity is exactly unknown in other nations, and yet you deduce from this
>that Americans are somehow "obsessed" with firearms.  Interesting.  I seem
>to detect not only another error in reasoning, but a certain bias as well.
>
>Peeve:  Knee-jerk anti-American Britishers.  Sometimes I have the impression
>	that you're an entire culture of whining, pissy-pantsed leftist 
>	malcontents.

Oh no, Geoff...You forgot the whining neo nazi poopy-drawered
skinheads and the amoral anarchist football thugs. And the
arrogant civil servants. Oh yes there are many facets to british
culture, but believe me the whole spitoon has gone downhill since
about 1067.

>ObWeapon:  Margaret Thatcher.

And what do we do if someone attacks us with Mrs Thatcher?
Release the 50 ton weight!
You killed her!!
Yes, is that a problem?

-- 
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: alex@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Vrchoticky)
Subject: Re: Low-fat = Low-salt
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Dept. for Realtime Systems, AUSTRIA
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:47:23 GMT

cgy@cs.brown.edu (Curtis Yarvin) writes:

>If you want salt in your preprocessed munchies, you should have to carry a
>little shaker around with you, like nicotine addicts.

interesting. i never noticed this particular habit in any of the 
smokers i know. 

in fact, the only person i know of having had the habit of always 
carrying saltshakers with him is a fictional character. i am not sure,
but i think that he *did* smoke. it didn't kill him, though. 

ob-weapon: a beehive dropped from a truck

-alex


-- 
Alexander Vrchoticky             alex@vmars.tuwien.ac.at
TU Vienna, CS/Real-Time Systems  +43/1/58801-8168
"we only question our worlds when they get out of hand" (seven sioux)
From: booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Polls and Pans
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:16:52 GMT
Organization: Autodesk, Inc., Sausalito, CA

In article <1992Apr16.072003.20091@talon.ucs.orst.edu> tim@physics.orst.edu (Tim Mefford) writes:
>
>     Peeve: I hate doing the dishes more than life itself.  As a result,
>I've taken to preparing meals with as few utensils/dishes as possible.
>I'll prepare and eat a two course meal dirtying no more than five seperate
>objects.  When desperate, I'll take a hotpad and a spoon and eat directly
>out of a pot I've taken from the stove. Total dirty dishes: 2
>In short, I'm sick and I need help, or a dishwasher.


I think you have adapted marvelously. I heard about a man who
had one dish, spoon, flatware set, etc. It took very little time
for him to clean up afterwards. I recommend a dog instead of a
dishwasher. This is especially true if you eat meat. Meat is hard
to clean up after, dog spit is not. If you have a dog, it does the
pre-rinse for you and all you have to do is scald the dishes with
a little soap. I strongly advise not to feed your dog chocolate.
APparently, chocolate is very bad for canines.

Peeve: I don't know where half my dishes are.

!Peeve: I found my hammer.

!!!Peeve: Our product (AutoCAD R11 for the Macintosh) will be on schedule.
I look forward to the hoopla. This is my first product (well, I mean that
I used to be a spat upon sysadmin and now am a new programmer - its
my company's product) and I feel very good about it. 

ObWeapon: A tower of boxes loaded with kitchen stuff, old clothes,
cat food, books and videos toppling on one's head in a storage unit.

ObServation: I have had a major nasty cold for two weeks. I also had
a huge bruise the size of a softball. I megadosed on Vitamin C (to
see if it worked on colds). The C did not work for the cold, but the
bruise has healed much faster than bruises normally do.
ER
--
*"I mean it could make a big difference in your life if you thought that 
*you didn't need to depend on some musty old dogma thats riddled with
*translation problems, and started acting from the center of your own being."
*					-Owen Rowley
From: cgy@cs.brown.edu (Curtis Yarvin)
Subject: Re: Bush For (Ex)President in '92!
Keywords: I recommend that you increase the dosage.
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 06:59:07 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.044838.20902@talon.ucs.orst.edu> tim@physics.orst.edu (Tim Mefford) writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.212426.7393@cs.yale.edu> yarvin@cs.yale.edu (Norman Yarvin) writes:
>>
>    I support recent suggestion that net acquaintances provide descriptions
>for the rest of the readership, but I would go beyond physical descriptions
>right on into damning mannerisms and personal traits.  You might consider
>slandering Curtis just to get things started.

Hah.  Well, my abominable sibling is a child of no morals whatsoever, so I
refuse to preclude the possibility that he'll actually bite this hook.  I
suppose I just have to respond first.

The most revolting thing about my brother is his hair.  When he was born -
regrettably, I was otherwise occupied at the time, and unable to be present
(so as to snatch the slimy little thing away from the obstetrician, slip a
Criscoed doll into his hands so he doesn't notice, and discard in a large
vat marked "High-Level Medical Waste - Incinerate At Once."), the poison
fronds were normal: ugly, flat, brown.  Since then they've been accentuating
the first characteristic and retreating rapidly from the others.  Now it's
like a "National Geographic Special" I saw once: "Bush Fires of the
Serengeti Veldt."  Picture this high brownish-red peaks of flame racing,
four feet high, across the stony soil, chasing all sorts of nasty critters.
Well, replace the feet with inches, shrink the critters a bit, and you've
got a fine picture of the top of my brother's head.  Like Don King, but
moussed only with Natural Muck; he leaves it alone - no synthetic
detergents, or organic ones for that matter, or anything but the occasional
droplet of birdshit so far as I can tell - and it leaves him alone.  So far.

Moving down: the surface of his face is like those pictures Voyager sent
back from the planet Io.  Huge angry-red flesh volcanos erupting
everywhere.  Step back a little, and he looks like a younger version of
Boris Yeltsin, except with this huge beaked Jewish nose, and long bushy
eyebrows like an Turkish pimp.

He's about 5'10 and exceeding plump, wears drab brown clothing and rides a
bike that looks like something the Wehrmacht Bicycle Infantry might have
used, low and vicious with a pair of nasty black bazookas mounted on the
fuselage, though he tells me they're only battery cases for the big
jack-light under the handlebars.

He smells like a goat.

c
From: egev05@castle.ed.ac.uk (B A Page)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Period Peeves
Date: 16 Apr 92 10:13:46 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <11067@autodesk.COM> booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) writes:

>ObPeeve: I have never seen a lava flow.

Peeve;  Me neither.  And I'm a volcanologist.  
(I've seen REALLY RECENT ones - but somehow bits of black glass are not
as exciting as a 100ft lava fountain would be)

(*Sniff sniff*)

Babs
From: egev05@castle.ed.ac.uk (B A Page)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: A Nightmare on Downing Street, Part IV
Keywords: doom, gloom, new dark age, oppression
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:34:43 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Apr10.125202@sees.bangor.ac.uk> mather@sees.bangor.ac.uk (Tories Out!) writes:

>Peeve:  The Tories have won the General Election.

Today has been a day that any peever worth their mettle will have
DREAMED about.

1.  Wee small hours.  Bloody fascists win election.  
2.  Later in morning.  Alarm goes off and disturbs hangover from drowned
sorrow (see 1.)
3.  Later in morning.  Realise that it is rent day and all my flat-mates
are away.  Instead of my share of 120 quid, I had to pay 450 quid.
4.  Later in morning.  Go shopping.  It's school holidays.  500
screaming children per square yard.
5.  Go home to put shopping away.  Find electricity bill and gas bill
(red letter) on doorstep.  
MEGAPEEVE6.  Also find letter from solicitor saying that she thinks
bastard-who-hit-my-leg-with-his-car is going to sue me for damaging his
front bumper.  I haven't got a leg to stand on har har.
Peeve7.  It's 3.30 and I still haven't managed to do any work.  Late
night looms.
8.  I'm on the FUCKING probe again tomorrow I HATE THAT MACHINE.

Babs
From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Sole on Ice
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:42:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: igor.1992Apr13.214225.6653
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, San Francisco

In article <kuj8ejINNse@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM
(Geoff Miller) writes:

>I don't understand this.  For one thing, I've never seen the sense of 
>this form of protest.  If someone kills himself in protest of something, `
>he'd obviously be playing into the hands of those against whom he's
>protesting -- there'd be one fewer dissenting voice for them to contend 
>with!  And there'd be a concomitant improvement in the gene pool as well.

OK Geoff, now you have me curious:  what form of protest do you approve
of?

   don "to the barricades!" baldwin
From: booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Low-fat = Low-salt
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:19:04 GMT
Organization: Autodesk, Inc., Sausalito, CA

In article <32926@darkstar.ucsc.edu> carolo@shawnee.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Carol Osterbrock) writes:
>
>Peeve:  quitting smoking.  Yeah, yeah, I know I'm not gonna get
>much sympathy from you guys.   But cigarettes go so naturally with
>beer, and coffee.


You have sympathy from me. Nicotine is supposed to be as addictive
as heroin. Its not easy to quit. I admire people who do, but don't
look down on people who cannot - as long as they don't smoke
while I am trying to eat :-).

Peeve: Trying to savor a delicate chocolate dessert while someone
lights up a Camel and wheezes it in my direction.

!Peeve: The first whiff of a tobacco junkie's ciggie smells very
nice when I am drinking a beer. I just wish the smoker would put
it out after that first hit because its all downhill from there.

ER
--
*"I mean it could make a big difference in your life if you thought that 
*you didn't need to depend on some musty old dogma thats riddled with
*translation problems, and started acting from the center of your own being."
*					-Owen Rowley
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: bberbeni@isis.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich)
Subject: Re: Gif
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 21:55:35 GMT

hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman) writes:

>Peeve: Lewiston. Bites it harder than Newark, NJ.

Gee, Dan, thanks for bringing back such pleasant memories as those of
Lewiston, Maine.  I dunno, though.  Auburn, Maine is trying awful hard
to suck as bad as Lewiston.  You get very far inland in Maine (like
10 miles) and it becomes hellish with swarming black flies and other
obnoxious fauna.

Peeve:  That I had to leave that pleasant retreat known as Bailey Island,
Maine.  What a wonderful place.
--
"Wow!  That was intense!" - Otto
"A repo man's always intense." - Bud
..after car chase with Rodriguez brothers
From: tim@comphy.physics.orst.edu (Tim Mefford)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Erratum
Keywords: Losers
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:04:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: talon.1992Apr13.210433.25107
Reply-To: tim@physics.orst.edu (Tim Mefford)
Organization: Oregon State University - Univ. Computing Services


     In a previous posting I made reference to Rhesus Monkeys.
That should clearly have been Reese's Monkeys, as the context 
indicates I must have been referring to peanut butter monkeys
covered in chocolate.

ObBob: Parish

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      Tim Mefford           | "...but you can't make her think!"      
  tim@physics.orst.edu      |          - Dorothy Parker
________________________________________________________________
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 18:39:21 EDT
From: Jenni Sheehey <JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: engineers, again

In article <g-1j5da.rickg@netcom.com>, rickg@netcom.com (Rick Gordon) says:
>
>In article <92107.110024JMM151@psuvm.psu.edu> Jennifer Mina writes:
>
>>Peeve:  people who demand that I explain my peeves to them.  I thought
>>this was a place where people could vocalize their peeves (well, kinda),
>>not get more annoyed by people responding to  their peeves.

I think you're looking for alt.support.  That would be down the hall to
the left where all of the people are hugging.

>>If you're
>>offended that I'm peeved at Engineers, too bad.  Why do you care what
>>peeves me anyway?  I don't know you.  It's not like I'm trying to get
>>anyone else to be peeved at Engineers, so what's the problem?

Actually, given your premises that we don't care what peeves you, and
that you're not trying to get anyone else peeved at engineers, why did
you bother to post your feelings for the whole world to see?  Why didn't
you just send yourself mail about it or something?

>If you think you can post here and not be held in some way responsible
>for explaining what you write (especially when what you write isn't
>what you meant, as in this case confusing engineers with teachers at
>Penn State), you're mistaken.

Besides, what if broad meaningless generalizations peeve some people?
Aren't they allowed to say so?

Peeve: broad meaningless generalizations, unless I make them myself.  =)

>If you think the responses your post
>generated were expressions of offense, you've misinterpreted what were,
>by Peevetown standards, gentle and harmless inquiries.

Indeed.  Obviously she hasn't had JZ call her a cherry poptart yet.  =)

>As a Jennifer from PSU you have an additional weight of prejudice to
>deal with (ask banta for advice on this one), but that needn't be an
>overwhelmingly crippling onus.

Gee, thanks, Rick.  =)

Peeve: Another person with not only the same *first* name as mine, but also the
same *middle* name.  There seem to be a million of them.
Sometimes I wish it wasn't such a pain to change
one's name.
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson -- Iowegian)
Subject: Re: April 9 (d. all of the above)
Reply-To: z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson -- Iowegian)
Organization: Sensitive Guys Martial Arts and Gun Club
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:20:09 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.153146.24974@acs.ucalgary.ca>
parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
>
>  !peeve: My new ford Ranger Sport with the 160hp V6, and 5spd
>  manual...Everytime I drive it, my penis gets longer.

	Just imagine how well hung you'll be when you get a real
truck and some horsepower!  <snicker>

	ObTruck: 1986 Ford F250 with International V8 diesel and
Banks twin-turbo, 4speed, 4wd.  Starting it up requires more power
than what half the cars on the road could provide.  <grunt>



--
<Daniel R. Sorenson   Dod #1066  |If Iowa State University agreed with me >
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu <- work |I'd make $90K/yr.  They don't, I don't. >
<viking@iastate.edu      <- play |"I am *not* goofing off.  I am driving  >
< myself mercilessly in the pursuit of relaxation." -- T. Weeds           >
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: cgy@cs.brown.edu (Curtis Yarvin)
Subject: Re: Lawyers not Chemists
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 06:30:16 GMT

In article <92101.202801JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu> JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu (Jenni Sheehey) writes:
>
>Peeve: people saying that they can't imagine why anyone would do some
>thing.  They're admitting right there that they haven't tried it, and
>thus don't know what they're talking about.

Peeve: people who say things like this.  Rule of Thumb: if you can't
persuade Joe Shmoe (the guy behind the counter at Moe's Kosher Deli) that
something's real, it probably ain't.  Hands-on demonstrations are allowed.

Example: Physics.

Shmoe:	"Physics, Shmysics!  Have you ever seen a proton?  No?  I didn't
	think so.  Now shuddup and eat ya salami."

Physicist:	<KEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRBLLLLAM!>  (Physicist sets off a
		critical-mass lump of plutonium in front of Shmoe's nose.)

Shmoe:	"Yeah, yeah.  Okay.  Now shuddup and eat ya salami, okay?  I got
	customers to serve here."

Now, when it comes to Jungian Archetypes:

Shmoe:	"Jung, Shmung!  Would you know an archetype if it crawled in your
	pants and bit you on the tush?  Now shuddup before I whack ya over
	the head with dis salami.  We got decent folks tryin to eat in here."

Jungian: "Uh... say, you gots a real interesting gestalt with dat dere
	 salami."

Shmoe:	<WHONK>  "I warned you, dinni?  Now dis salami's all dirty."


Did you have to understand the fundamental principles of astrology before
you decided it was bogus?  What about the Tarot?

c
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: tim@comphy.physics.orst.edu (Tim Mefford)
Subject: Re: Lust from afar
Reply-To: tim@comphy.UUCP (Tim Mefford)
Organization: Oregon State University - Univ. Computing Services
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 00:01:12 GMT

In article <k-tjfbq.rickg@netcom.com> rickg@netcom.com (Rick Gordon) writes:
>In article <167C5AA68.ELLBRUA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> The Lemming writes:
>
>>Peeve:  She is a student in the physics lab I teach so I can't date
>>        her, or even indicate my attraction.
>
>Holy mother of pearl, have things changed *that* much in academe?  I know
>all about Correctness, but this sounds downright unnatural.
> 

Damn Straight!  Rules are made by the wolves for the sheep to follow.  We 
have a husband-wife team of Professors teaching here.  He was her advisor
for Christ's sake.

Of course a teaching assistant asking out a student would put her in an
awkward and unfair position, but I've found that letting morals and fairness
guide my actions has gotten me completely screwed, as a rule.  If you leave
the last potato for the old woman with rickets, somebody else will eat it
then cut your throat when you pass from hunger.


ObBob: Bonds

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      Tim Mefford           |           "vidi, veni"      
  tim@physics.orst.edu      |    -Julius Caesar on Cleopatra
________________________________________________________________
From: ELLBRUA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (The Lemming)
Subject: Re: Smoking Surrogate
Organization: Yale University
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 20:14:19 EDT

In article <92098.151649JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu>
JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu (Jenni Sheehey) writes:
 
>!Peeve: The temperature has gone over 60F.  =)
 
Peeve:  The temperature has gone over 60F.  :-P
I hate it when the weather starts getting warm.  It reminds me of the
awful, hot days to come.  I have begun pining for winter already.  It
is especially annoying because we only got one real snowfall all winter.
 
 
Alex Elliott
The Lemming.
ellbrua@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu
Newsgroups: alt.peeves