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From: rdd@cactus.org (Robert Dorsett)
Subject: Re: {ehydration
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 09:23:47 GMT

In article <541000001@peg.pegasus.oz.au> sbrook@peg.pegasus.oz.au writes:
>
>
>Can someone out there explain to me why the air conditioning in passenger
>planes is so dry. I'm sick of getting dehydrated!!!

The air at altitude is already dry.  In its journey through the air 
conditioning system, it is alternately heated then cooled: the cooling
process condenses water, which is eliminated by the system.  The resulting
air is fed to the cabin, with a relative humidity of 10-15%.





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From: yan-dicky@cs.yale.edu (Dicky Yan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: enrollment for FF program
Date: 23 Dec 1992 21:47:28 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
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In article <1992Dec22.225041.17175@athena.mit.edu> yfchyan@athena.mit.edu (Yih-Feng Chyan) writes:
>Hi,
>
>Though I had several international flights, I never enrolled in any FF program.
>Could someone tell me how to enroll?  Could I just enroll when I check in at the

At the airport, you can get or ask for the application form for enrolling in the
FF program. You will usually get a temporary i.d. card and
a number which they will put into your current flight. Alternatively, you can
call up the airline and do it over the phone. (Call the 800 directory 
(1-800-555-1212) for the 1-800 numbers of the airlines.) The only
exception that happend to me was, Continental said they could not do the
enrollment for my friend at  the 1-800 number and gave her an (out of state)
phone number to call. 


>airport?  And also, could I trace back the mileages I accumulated before? (I
>didn't keep the ticket, though I remember which date I had the flights.)
>
>M.-J.
>
Theoretically, you will need something like a boarding pass and/or copy of the
tickets. 
Some airlines do not accept any such claims
dated back more than a certain period, e.g. 1 month.

Dicky.


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From: dpozsony@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Deborah A Pozsonyi)
Subject: dehydration
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 06:37:38 GMT

	The dry air that is characteristic in most airplanes is a result of decompression.

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From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: How does one join Lufthansa's Miles & More program from the US?
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 00:19:50 GMT

billd@informix.com (William Daul) wrote: 
->How do I go about joining Lufthansa's Miles & More program from within the
->US?  I think this is their "frequent flyer" program.  

call them and ask; they have an 800 number.

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From: deitsch@sol.crd.ge.com (Andy Deitsch)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Ticket Prices To Israel
Date: 28 Dec 92 18:57:24 GMT
Reply-To: deitsch@sol.crd.ge.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: GE Research & Development


Does anyone know of any "cheap" tickets to Israel in July.  I called
three airlines (Tower, TWA and El AL), and they all have the exact same
price.  It sounds like they don't believe in competition.

I tried the courier route, but every company I've spoken to that used to 
use couriers no longer does.

Any info would be appreciated.

Andy
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From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Wanted: RT SF-Pittsburgh or Oakland-Pittsburgh
Date: 24 Dec 1992 11:05:49 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: tsunami.berkeley.edu

So my parents live back in Pittsburgh and this is where I am spending winter
break!  The airline companies have conspired to charge sky-high prices
keeping me away from home.  Well, my next (&last) school semester begins
Jan. 20th.  So, I would like to visit home for at least 4 days some time
during them.  If you've got an offer to make, let me know.

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From: ecl@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Evelyn C. Leeper)
Subject: Re: Best seats on a 747-200 ?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 23:16:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.224326.28845@news.media.mit.edu> geek@media.mit.edu (Chris Schmandt) writes:
> In article <1992Dec31.201944.20078@oakhill.sps.mot.com> fmbutt@engage.sps.mot.com (Farooq M. Butt) writes:
> >
> >I'll be travelling on a NW 747-200 SFO->BKK and was wondering what the
> >best [non-smoking] seats in the house are?
> 
> You probably want to sit "up top".  Your mileage may vary; ...

You mean you get different frequent flyer credit depending where you
sit?  :-) :-) :-)

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From: tierney@nevada.edu (TIMOTHY P TIERNEY)
Subject: BA/UA Upgrades Available?
Originator: tierney@helios.nevada.edu
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:43:48 GMT

Hello netland,

I will shortly be travelling to Saudi Arabia for a new position and had
a question that I would like to put out to all of you.  Are there some
sort of upgrade coupons or whatever that can be used to upgrade class of
service on BA/UA flights?  I'm interested especially in BA upgrades.  It
looks as though my routing will be UA LAS->DEN then BA DEN->LHR and then
BA LHR->DHA.  I will be receiving a one way coach ticket from the company
and would be interested in upgrading either the entire ticket to coach
or first (preferably) or just the final two segments (to London and then
to Saudi Arabia).  Anyone know anything about this or have something for
sale that might help me?

Thanks,

Tim
From: ci580@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael J. Schofield)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: ual #918 from iad to
Date: 21 Dec 1992 09:31:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ci580@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael J. Schofield)
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In a previous article, reg.lafontaine@canrem.com ("reg lafontaine") says:

>
>KS>When I was planning my trip to Asia, I absolutely had to travel on a 747-400.
>KS>None of Northwest's printed schedules indicated that a 744 was being used
>KS>from JFK-NRT.  But when I called them up, their computer insisted that it
>KS>was a 744.  Even the last schedule book didnt have it as a 744.  But
>
>Not being sarcastic, but WHY did it HAVE to be a 747-400?  Is it a 
>more comfortable plane?  Better seat pitch?  Safer?
>
>Thank you for the enlightenment.

Yes, similar question. What difference will I notice travelling on a
747-400 instead of a 747-200 or 747SP (all with United). Newer doesn't
necessarily mean safer of course, but I think I'd prefer to fly on a
"new" 747-400 than an ancient 747SP.

United economy class on the 747-400 provides what sort of in-flight
entertainment?
-- 
That's all for now
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schofiel@esrf.fr or ci580@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
From: joel@math.toronto.edu (Joel Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Fares when death in family
Date: 23 Dec 92 05:27:11 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto

In article <1992Dec22.181452.26080@panix.com> patth@panix.com (Patt Bromberger) writes:
>
>This was our experience earlier this year when my husband had to fly
>from Vancouver, B.C. (he took a flight out of Bellingham, WA, just
>like the Canadians do!) to New York City for his grandfather's
>funeral.
>
>Not one of the Canadian Air Lines was interested in making an
>accommodation for "emergency" travel.

Are you sure this is true?  There is a section in the Canadian Airlines
System Timetable which states that it offers special assistance and
discount fares when there is a death in the family.  I'm not sure
whether Air Canada does this as well.
Of course, a problem is that Canadian does not fly to New York.  Perhaps
that was why Canadian did not offer you accomodation for emergency travel?
Air Canada does fly to New York.

Happy Holidays,

Joel
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From: gunawan@envmsa.eas.asu.edu (iwan gunawan)
Subject: Re: M1 aircrash (British Midland)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:15:00 GMT

In article <92357.175051RGELSTHO@ESTEC.BITNET>, <RGELSTHO@ESTEC.BITNET>
writes...

>To settle a bet, can anybody please inform me of the origin and destinat
>ion of the aircraft involved in the M1 (British) air crash?

The British Midland Airways B737-400 Flight BD092 took off from Heathrow
airport and bound for Belfast. Hope that helps!

-- iwan gunawan
   gunawan@envmsa.eas.asu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air,news.answers
Organisation: European Space Technology Centre (E.S.T.E.C)
Date: Tuesday, 22 Dec 1992 17:50:51 CET
From: <RGELSTHO@ESTEC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: M1 aircrash (British Midland)

To settle a bet, can anybody please inform me of the origin and destinat

-ion of the aircraft involved in the M1 (British) air crash?
From: rbakker@nl.oracle.com (Rick Bakker)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Lufthansa special offer
Date: 29 Dec 92 08:26:08 GMT
Reply-To: rbakker@nl.oracle.com (Rick Bakker)
Organization: /etc/organization


Appropriate Remark,

Yesterday and today (29/12) Lufthansa (German Airlines) placed a full-page
ad in Holland's largest newspaper advertising a special deal on airfares.
It seems that as of January 1st price restrictions on airfares in the EEC
shall be released and to "celebrate" this, Lufthansa offers Economy class
return airfares for 299 NLG (approx $165) from Amsterdam to anywhere in 
the EEC. For destinations in Germany the price is 199 NLG ($110). Let me
assure you that these are CHEAP! KLM immediately announced it would respond
somehow, probably by beefing up its very slack frequent flyer program.

The conditions: Tickets must be for travel from January 1st to March 31st
1993, and tickets must be reserved and paid for before January 15th. I
would assume that Lufthansa is offering the same sort of deal to the other
EEC members, and assuming they'll be looking for an attention-grabbing 
price it may be significantly cheaper elsewhere. How about some feedback?
Further conditions (not listed in the ad): trip must include a Saturday
night (standard condition to weed out the business travellers), ticket
has to be paid within 24 hrs of reservation and no changing of dates 
allowed. 

The destinations listed:
Amsterdam, Athens, Barcelona, Bari, Berlin, Bilbao, Birmingham, Bologna,
Bonn, Bremen, Brussels, Cagliari, Catania, Dresden, Dublin, Dusseldorf,
Faro, Florence, Frankfurt, Friedrichshafen, Genoa, Glasgow, Hamburg, 
Hannover, Heraklion, Koln, Kiel, Copenhagen, Las Palmas, Leipzig, Lisbon,
London, Lyon, Madrid, Malaga, Manchester, Marseille, Milan, Munchen,
Munster/Osnabruck, Napels, Neurenberg, Nice, Oporto, Palermo, Palma de
Majorca, Paris, Pisa, Rome, Stuttgart, Tenerife (here I come), Thessaloniki,
Toulouse, Trieste, Turin, Valencia, Venice, Verona.

BTW, EEC = Netherlands, Belgium, Luxemburg, Germany, France, England,
Italy, Spain, Denmark, Portugal, Greece and Ireland.

Happy Hols,
Rick Bakker
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From: chang@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Bernard Chang)
Subject: Re: Questions Regarding Boarding Passes and Rental Cars
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:19:42 GMT

konstan@saturn.cs.umn.edu (Joe Konstan) writes:
>	7.  See if the agent ever suggests using Northwest FlyWrite tickets 
>	    for one-way travel rather than paying the outrageous amounts.

Can someone post some more information about this NW thing. I am looking
for ways to fly one-way quite often (other leg by surface) without
having to pay the round trip price for the one-way ticket! Many thanks.


							Bernard Chang.
							chang@aries.scs.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: kemme@jupiter.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Rainer Kemme)
Subject: North American Airport Codes
Reply-To: kemme@jupiter.rz.uni-osnabrueck.de
Organization: University of Osnabrueck, FRG
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 12:36:21 GMT


Hi there,

Once upon a long time ago, someone posted an ascii file containing
a complete list of the North American Airport Codes. Unfortunately
I destroyed this list.

Can anybody tell me, where I can find this list (ftp-server).
Maybe the provider of this list reads my posting and is willing to repost
it, or will send it directely to me.

Thank you in advance,
                       --Rainer
From: billd@informix.com (William Daul)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: How does one join Lufthansa's Miles & More program from the US?
Date: 25 Dec 92 06:55:57 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.
Originator: billd@cheetah

How do I go about joining Lufthansa's Miles & More program from within the
US?  I think this is their "frequent flyer" program.  

Thanks, --Bill
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From: fmbutt@engage.sps.mot.com (Farooq M. Butt)
Subject: Best seats on a 747-200 ?
Organization: Motorola RISC Software, Austin, TX
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 20:19:44 GMT


I'll be travelling on a NW 747-200 SFO->BKK and was wondering what the
best [non-smoking] seats in the house are? Are the bulkhead ones nice or
do they have non-lift-uppable armrests like on some other planes ? I'd
like to get as far away from smokers as possible since my wife is 
terribly allergic to smoke.

fmb


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From: srcguard@src.dec.com (Lytton (SRC) Guard)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Rio De Janiero
Date: 30 Dec 92 20:05:41 GMT
Organization: DEC Systems Research Center




	What is Rio like and if anybody 
	knows, when is the best time to go
	there?

	Any comment is appreciated.
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From: "reg lafontaine" <reg.lafontaine@canrem.com>
Subject: un; best seats on a 747-2
Reply-To: "reg lafontaine" <reg.lafontaine@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 2 Jan 93 10:18:42 EST

FM>    Subject: Best seats on a 747-200 ?

FM>I'll be travelling on a NW 747-200 SFO->BKK and was wondering what the
FM>best [non-smoking] seats in the house are? Are the bulkhead ones nice or
FM>do they have non-lift-uppable armrests like on some other planes ? I'd
FM>like to get as far away from smokers as possible since my wife is
FM>terribly allergic to smoke.

Get your seat assigned as early as possible and ask for the non-smoking
seats on the middle door exit, on the right side of the plane.  Lots of
leg room.  Do NOT take a bulkhead seat, you will be cramped, especially
if you are at all tall.

Can't remember about the armrests.
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From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Questions Regarding Boarding Passes and Rental Cars
Date: 29 Dec 92 00:25:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton

sbrenner@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (scott.d.brenner) wrote: 
->Sorry if these are FAQs; I don't read this group regularly.

read: "sorry that i'm too damn lazy to do the right thing, even though
i'm asking all of you a favor by asking this question."

->So the question is: does anyone know a way I could convince Delta to 
->mail the boarding passes to me?  I'd rather not have to take a trip out
->to the airport just to pick them up.

no.  go to any delta ticket counter and get the boarding passes.
(of course, if you were ticketed through a travel agent, they could
issue the boarding passes for you).

->Question 2:  What's the cheapest/easiest/best way to rent a car at the
->	     Ft. Lauderdale airport?  ...

your travel agent should be able to answer this, too.

->...  Do the airlines have any arrangements with the car rental places?

yes; the airlines take your money and deliver you to the car rental
places, whereupon the car rental places take some more of your money.
clever arrangement, eh?

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From: macucci@ceg.uiuc.edu (Massimo Macucci)
Subject: Re: Best seats on a 747-200 ?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 16:48:53 GMT

sjones@alfred.carleton.ca (Stan Jones) writes:

>In <1992Dec31.224326.28845@news.media.mit.edu> geek@media.mit.edu
>(Chris Schmandt) writes in response to a question about the 'besy
>seats' on a 427-200::

>>You probably want to sit "up top".  Your mileage may vary; on UA the

>On the airlines I have flown on 747s (AC, CP, KLM) these up top seats are
>business class (the class between economy and first).  Is is not the
>case with other airlines?

No, at least with British Airways they are Economy class and very comfortable.
I seem to remember that the same happens with Air France (but I'm not sure),
while with Alitalia they are "Top Class"(sort of a First class, I believe).
						  Massimo Macucci
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From: aghanda3@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Air Ticket for Sale: CA -> FL
Date: 27 Dec 92 13:32:59 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services
Summary: for sale, air ticket
Keywords: for sale, air ticket

	I have two airplane tickets for sale:

	Departure: Irvine, CA (30 min. form L.A. and 
			       50 min. from San Diego)
	Arriving:  Orlando, FL
	Time:      Jan. 4, 1993 but rescheduable
	Price:     $155 each or the best offer

	If interested, please call (714) 854-6278 or reply to this account. 
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From: yfchyan@athena.mit.edu (Yih-Feng Chyan)
Subject: enrollment for FF program
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:50:41 GMT

Hi,

Though I had several international flights, I never enrolled in any FF program.
Could someone tell me how to enroll?  Could I just enroll when I check in at the
airport?  And also, could I trace back the mileages I accumulated before? (I
didn't keep the ticket, though I remember which date I had the flights.)

M.-J.

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From: jis@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (jishnu.mukerji)
Subject: Re: Questions on Boarding Passes
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:38:52 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.133311.7875@cbfsb.cb.att.com> sbrenner@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (scott.d.brenner) writes:
>
>I agree that possession is .9 of the law.  If I found myself in the situation
>you describe, where someone else is in my seat and has an identical boarding
>pass, I would raise hell with the airline.  I would do everything I could to
>cause a fuss and delay the pushback.  If the airline wants to treat me like
>a bus passenger, I can act like one.  IMHO, if I'm paying several hundred 
>dollars to travel with them, I expect an airline to treat me with respect.  I

Amazing! Just because of a slight mixup in seat assignment you are
going to delay and inconvenience 200 others? How many bus passengers
do you know who delay the departure of a bus because they did not get
their preferred seat on a bus? The proper action as a bus passenger
would be to take whatever seat you get and be happy with it no?:-)

I have found myself in a situation where I was already in a seat when
the other person assigned to the seat came in and where the seat that I
was assigned to was already occupied by someone else. In both cases
both the boarding cards showed the same seat number. In both cases one
of us had not checked in at the boarding gate or checkin counter at
the airport.

In both cases we told the flight attendant what had occured. In one
case the other gentleman was happy to move to another seat. In the
other case I moved to another seat because the mother with a baby who
was the other passenger would definitely have been more inconvenienced
with a move. In both cases I wrote a letter to the airline later. In
both cases I was advised by mail that to avoid this I should check
with the boarding gate agent before boarding when I have a boarding
pass issued elsewhere. Since then I have always checked with the
boarding gate agent, and since then duplicate assignments when they
have occured have always been resolved in my favor.

IMHO raising an unholy ruckus at the boarding gate or in the
aircraft is a clear case of punishing a whole lot of innocent people,
and should be avoided if it is at all possible to keep ones emotions
in check. The airline staff or passengers on the aircraft have very
little control over the stuff that constitutes the root cause of the
problem. Therefore it is much more productive to resolve the immediate
problem amicably with fellow passengers and crew members and then take
it up with the folks in customer service and complaints department,
who may actually be able to do something about it.

Let's face it guys (and gals), the real problem is with the abominably
designed distributed seat assignment software that all airlines seem
to use. 

Jishnu Mukerji
jis@usl.com
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