From: sco@aero.org (Stacey C. O'Brien)
Subject: Re: Benny Hinn, Again. (was Re: Totally bizarre Network)
Keywords: Yet again, Flame suit on...
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 07:19:51 GMT

In article <parsons.713824318@cygnus.cis.ksu.edu.cis.ksu.edu> parsons@cis.ksu.edu (Scott S Parish ) writes:
>kroth@david.wheaton.edu (Ken Roth) writes:
>
>>Well, I am posting facts about Copeland.  They follow at the end of this post.
>
>[Quotes of the 'little god' and 'Ransom' atonement theology deleted.]
>
>Well, sounds like you have read CHARISMATIC CHOAS.  After skimming through
>some of the sections and reading the same quotes you quoted here, I would
>not want to be a charismatic nor associated with the charismatic movement.

WHAT?!?! Now I am offended (for the first time I think on this group). How 
DARE anyone claim that Binny Hinn, Kenneth Hagin, or Kenneth Copelend
are representatives of Charismatics? Their teachings are HERESY, nothing
more, nothing less. PLEASE DO NOT now slander charismatic Christians by
even breathing their names along side the words "Charismatic Christian".
GIMME A BREAK! WHAT DO YOU THINK WE BELIEVE ANYWAYS??!!! ok, I'm all done
with this. I'm gonna post a section of a book written by a charismatic
christian- I'm posting most of the references out of his book. I'm gonna
try to get ahold of him first to get permission. But enough is enough -
I can't just sit here and have charismatics linked with Benny Hinn and
his cohorts.
>
>However, the author IS BIAS and writes from a non-charismatic perspective.
>My first, brief, and probably inaccurate view (I'll give him the benefit of
>the doubt until I can read the whole book) of the author is that he has
>picked out things which Copeland, Hagin and others have said or written and
>used them to fit HIS perspective of what they teach, and are not an accurate
>reflection of Word Faith teachings.  But that's what you get when you have
>a bias author.

Well, based on what you say it sounds like he has no idea what Charismatics
are, but in my opinion, he's probably right about those Word of Faith guys
if he decries their teachings. I mean there's no way you can justify their
teachings scripturally.

See, just cuz someone uses "healing" as part of a "ministry" that's
theologically bogus from the beginning, doesn't mean that that's an
example of Charismatic churches. I heard (I think on the CRI) show 
about an effort to validate the "healings" on Benny Hinns show, and
they asked about a woman who was "healed" of blindness from diabetes.
The answer was "Well, her vision is still pretty dark, but it's because
she's still taking the insulin medicine. If she quit taking the insulin,
she'd be *completely* healed. Oh gimme a break. That's not a healing!
In my church, we call a spade a spade. When people have been healed, tho
we don't emphasize that, it's been really really drastic - like huge
brain tumor dissappearing and the person waking up out of a coma - that
kind of thing. and it's rare too - and the FIRST thing we do is have it
confirmed by the person's doctor and get a second opinion. None of this
fooling around with semantics and cloak and dagger confessions....

So PLEASE, folks, don't include Charismatics in there with Benny Hinn
and his cohorts!

IMHO as always...  ;-)

                       --Stacey


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