HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bin@primate.wisc.edu (Brain in Neutral)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Wanted: RTF Format Description
Date: 15 Dec 1992 14:07:57 -0600
Organization: Cafe Limbo
Reply-To: bin@primate.wisc.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: uakari.primate.wisc.edu

From article <1992Dec14.124945.14963@st-andrews.ac.uk>, by ad@dcs.st-and.ac.uk (Tony Davie):
> [ long spec deleted ]
> 
> and if you want more details you can ftp them from indri.primate.wisc.edu
> (128.104.230.11) from directory /pub/RTF.

No, the address is now 144.92.43.11 (our network number changed a while
back.  The canonical ftp machine at our site is ftp.primate.wisc.edu
(current the same as indri, but it might change sometime.)

Paul DuBois
dubois@primate.wisc.edu
-- 
Paul DuBois
dubois@primate.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: bredell@tdb.uu.se (Mats Bredell)
Subject: Re: Chinese word processing
Reply-To: Mats.Bredell@udac.uu.se
Organization: Uppsala University Computing Center (UDAC)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:22:21 GMT

Deane Yang (dy@shire.math.columbia.edu) wrote:
: Could someone provide me with some information about
: doing word processing in Chinese on the Macintosh
: or on an IBM PC?
: 
: The only info I have indicates that this can be done
: with the usual word processors, like Word, by using
: a Chinese system. But what if I want to do both
: Chinese and English word processing without having
: to switch systems? Offhand, I think a word processor
: specifically designed for Chinese would be more efficient.
: Does such a thing exist?

System 7.1 with worldscript allows you to switch between english and chinese
with a single keystroke.

: If I want the Chinese system for the Mac, how do I
: get it?

No one knows for sure, it seems. Contact your local Apple dealer.

: Also, is it really practical to do Chinese word
: processing on a Mac? The main difficulty appears
: to be the input process. Is the situation any better for
: an IBM PC?

On the Mac you use a piece of system software called an "input method" that
takes care of inputting the characters. I have only tried the japanese input
method, and it works very well. The input method is layered on top of the
application, so it works with all applications that are compatible with the
script manager.

: I would appreciate any information and advice on this.
: 
: Deane Yang

/Mats
-- 
Mats Bredell                                   Mats.Bredell@udac.uu.se
Uppsala University Computing Center (UDAC)     Ph:  +46 18 187817
Department of medical systems                  Fax: +46 18 187825
Sweden                                         Think straight - be gay!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: myc@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (Michael Y Chiang)
Subject: Re: Duplicating Copy Protected Floppies
Organization: Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 18:08:58 GMT

In article <jdurham-141292104404@148.171.33.73> jdurham@atg.amex-trs.com (Jeff Durham) writes:
>While we are on the subject does anyone know how to create the invisible
>files that MOTU's MIDI products (Performer, Composer) create using the
>hardisk install? I'm paranoid that my hardisk will crash again and I'll
>lose my last remaining hardisk install.
>

I'd like to know, too.  I lost a HD install of Performer.  I'm now
running Performer with the key floppy disk in the drive.  I won't
use my remaining HD install until I can back it up.  Anyone have
any suggestions?
--
Michael Y. Chiang    | The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
myc@aplpy.jhuapl.edu |     "Food for thought!  Thought from food!" --DINOSAURS
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.apps:18600 comp.sys.mac.misc:20639
From: georg@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Does Claris Works have a spell checker???
Date: 15 Dec 1992 10:17:23 GMT
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
NNTP-Posting-Host: marie.physik.tu-berlin.de
Summary: does Claris Works have a spell checker?
Keywords: Mac, Apple, Claris Works

Does Claris Works have a spell checker?

Please reply to
georg@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de

Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: deweeset@ptolemy3.rdrc.rpi.edu (Thomas E. DeWeese)
Subject: Re: Stuffit Expander only watches disk it's on?
Keywords: stuffit compression aladdin
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 05:18:27 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.225039.22041@netcom.com> leonardr@netcom.com (Leonard Rosenthol) writes:
>>I experimented with Stuffit Expander 3.0's 'Watch folder' option, and
>>it seems like it will only watch a folder if the program is on the
>>same volume as the watch folder. Otherwise it does nothing.  
>	It appears that this is indeed a bug in StuffIt Expander 3.0 and 
>will be corrected for the next rev. (3.0.1).

  One other little thing.  The Watch Folder is worthless for my useage.  I 
normally download files with a modem, thus it takes a significant amount of
time to down load the files.  DownLine (which unfortunately is cripled by not
decompressing compactor archives :( ) also has a watch folder operation but 
unlike Stuffit Expander it will wait until the file is compleatly down 
loaded before it tries to decompress it.  Obviously Stuffit Expander has 
a hard time uncompressing 1/3 of a file.  If you could modify Stuffit 
Expander to make sure the file is done being written before you try to 
decompress it, I would consider trying it again.  It would be nice to 
have one Application that undoes everything.
						Thomas DeWeese
deweeset@rdrc.rpi.edu
From: sbuckley@fraser.sfu.ca (Stephen Buckley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: cartels and cutthroats
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:22:06 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

this was a game i played on my old apple 2.  does it exist for a mac?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: aggie@wealthy.ocean.fsu.edu (I R A Aggie)
Subject: Re: Interleaf CGM to Macintosh PICT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: An Ol Ag surrounded by a bunch of unfriendly Seminoles
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 00:14:54 GMT

In article <grismore-141292084611@130.248.208.99>, grismore@adobe.com (Doug
Grismore) wrote:

> On the PC, this isn't a problem - there are several products that handle
> this set of graphics nicely (HiJaak for cheap, Adobe Illustrator puts a
> little AI file in between, but still can be done).  However, I've never
> heard of an application on the MAC that could convert a CGM file...

There are three commercial apps that handle graphics conversion (sorry,
I don't remember), and Canvas 3.*.

The results where disappointing with my relatively complex NCAR CGM
files. Very poor resolution, and Canvas would bomb more times than
not. That may well be a function of the brain-damaged NCAR CGM's
than the programs in general.

James
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: philip@vger.cheme.cornell.edu
Subject: Re: Network version of Mac application programs ?
Reply-To: philip@vger.cheme.cornell.edu
Organization: Chemical Engineering, Cornell University, NY
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:39:59 GMT

Microsoft Excel 4.0 Comes in a networkable 10 user package, I bought my
version through cornell university, so I don't know where it can be gotten
commercially.
Microsoft Word 5.0 was not intended to be networked but you can install it on a
local machine and then move it to the server, this works quite well. The only
thing you have to be careful about is moveing all of the preferences and inits
that the installer puts into your system folder, onto all of the other machines
that will be useing Word.


In article <1992Dec15.042028.17963@iti.gov.sg>, chchang@ncb.gov.sg (Chang Chen Hsien) writes:
>Hi,
>
>Is anyone out there knows whether there is any application program
>like word processor, spreadsheet, graphics drawing program etc that 
>runs on multiuser environment (network version) ?
>
>I have check with some of the local Mac software dealers and their
>reply is no. So, I do not know whether anyone in the internet have 
>come across these software. 
>
>I would like to know the product name and where can I get it from.
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Cheers
>
>Chen Hsien :>
>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: zkessin@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Zach, the Lego Maniac)
Subject: spell checker for LaTeX
Keywords: LaTeX TeX OzTeX
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:49:37 GMT

I saw a while back a spell checker for LaTeX documents. I know it is
on sumex-aim but do not remember what it is called, does anyone know?

thanks a 10^6 in advance
Zach zkessin@cs.brandeis.edu
From: cfkfb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Karl Bridges)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Mac Classic II on TokenRing How???
Summary: How do you connect ClassicII to TokenRing
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:36:23 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network


  How do you connect a ClassicII to Tokenring network?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: eggert@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (lars eggert)
Subject: Reading IBM disks formatted by UNIX
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:14:16 GMT
Organization: TU Darmstadt
Keywords: IBM UNIX Mac disk

Hi there!

I need to read (and write) IBM formatted disks on my PowerBook 170.
These disks are formatted on a UNIX system (HP-UX in fact)
using the mtools.

I tried using AccessPC and some other CDEV (I think it was from Apple),
but both could not recognize the IBM format. Currently I am using 
old "Apple File Exchange" to access these disks, but that is no 
solution to stay with.

Does anybody know WHY Apple's oldie does things the new programs 
cannot do? I just cannot imagine why...
WHAT other programs could I try?

Please reply via mail.

Lars Eggert (eggert@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de)
"Good food, good meat, good god - let's eat!"
(Prayer by Homer Simpson)
From: HarriRehnberg@salient.com (Salient Software)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: re: Compression Utility Question
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 15:27:30 PST
Organization: Fifth Generation Systems
Reply-To: HarriRehnberg@salient.com (Salient Software)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v3


In article <85387@ut-emx.uucp> (comp.sys.mac.apps), miles@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Miles Abernathy) writes:
|It is a shame that the newest version of DiskDoubler lost its ability to
|encrypt files, even though the encrypted files were clunky SEAs. Is the
|overseas market that big, that it required the encryption feature to be
|removed from the domestic version?

DiskDoubler does encrypt files.  If you are using the patchers uploaded
to online services then you are running the international version which
doesn't have encryption (For example:  version 3.7.7 is a domestic
version and 3.7.7i is a international version).  The distribution of
the domestic version is restricted to the U.S. and Canada.  If you
are within these regions and want the domestic version you can call
Fifth Generation Systems technical support/customer service at 1-800-766-7283
and have a disk sent out to you.

|
|Regarding AutoDoubler 2, if I choose to upgrade, will I have to do any
|conversion to my existing DD 3.7.5 and AD 1.0.5 files? If I do not choose
|to upgrade, is there a fix to ADs tendency to forget some of its
|settings? I tell it to compact files older than 60 days, but sometimes it
|forgets and goes to work on everything older than 2 days.
...

No conversion is needed.  The compression methods are the same but
the algorythm is improved.

AutoDoubler 2.0 doesn't loose it settings.  That problem
originally existed in 1.0.4 and thought fixed in 1.0.5.  The latest
version of AutoDoubler 1.0.X is 1.0.7.

for all FGS products FIFTHGEN@aol.com
for AutoDoubler & DiskDoubler techsupport@salient.com
From: cook@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Steve Cook)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:02:11 GMT
Subject: System 7.1 compatibility???
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps

I ordered system 7.1 and ran the compatibility checker.  It informs me
that several of my applications are in danger of not working if I
install 7.1.  The most noteworthy one I care about being MaxAppleZoom 
version 1.43.  How can I live without the edges of my screen being used!

Could someone tell me which of the following applications do or do 
not work on system 7.1 and also if a newer revision takes care of 
the problem?

AutoDoubler 1.0
HyperCard 2.0
MathCAD 2.03
SimCity 1.3c
Stuffit 1.5.1
MaxAppleZoom 1.43
Virex INIT 1.8
Armor Alley 1.9.1
Calculator II 1.02
Certificate Creator
Colour Billiards
Daleks 2.9
DesignCAD 3.0
Ferrari GP 1.60
HP Background Startup 3.07
HP PrintMonitor 3.07
IAGO 1.0
Jack
Kermit 0.9
Klondike 4.0
MacPente 1.0
MasterGuess (Mastermind)
Microsoft Works 3.0
Missile Command 2.3 Version 1.2
PackIt III 1.1
PGA Tour Golf 1.0
Pipe Dream
Risk 2.40
Seahaven Towers 1.0
Shield INIT 1.0
ShufflePuck2 1.0
SimCity Updater 1.0
SnapJot 2.0
Solarian II 1.04
Space Invaders
speedometer 3.1
Stratego 0.95
SuperClock! 3.1
COLOR TETRIS 1.0

I have many others on the list, but none I really care about.  It seems
that this 7.1 upgrade may produce quite a few headaches.

Thanks for your help!!

Steve Cook
2044 Sitka Court
Loveland, Colo  80538
cook@hpmtlx.lvld.hp.com
(303) 679-2732
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Neil_MacAskill@mindlink.bc.ca (Neil MacAskill)
Subject: Re: .cpt
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 08:38:56 GMT

Concerning files marked .cpt.
Yes your assumption, in my limited experience, is correct. These files must
be 'extracted' using Compact Pro. This is very simple to do once you download
a self extracting copy of Compact Pro and double click on it. It will set
itself up in a new folder (takes a few minutes). Then you can go into the
folder, open the application, open your file and 'extract'.
Good luck.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: ballard@alc.com (Carl Ballard)
Subject: POWERPOINT and Plotters
Organization: Ascent Logic Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:12:38 GMT

I have a color electrostatic plotter which I would like to use to produce
transparancies from POWERPOINT.  I tried using Freedom of Press.  It worked --
soft of.  FOP treats each Powerpoint slide as a separate "page", so it's
S-l-o-w.  Does anyone know of "pasteup" software which will allow Powerpoint
slides to be pasted onto a larger piece of paper (e.g., D-size)?

- Carl Ballard
  Ascent Logic Corporation
  e-mail: ballard@ alc.com
From: rosen@aurora.cis.upenn.edu (Mark Rosen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: font switching
Date: 15 Dec 92 03:25:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


I have truetype, type I and bitmap fonts in my system 7.1 folder. In using 
Persuasion 2.1, I would like to be able to switch one font type to another 
depending on whether I'm outputting to an LCD panel, a monitor, or a film 
recorder. Is there a way to select one type of font without having to move 
fonts in and out of the folder?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  
Mark Rosen
rosen@aurora.cis.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: glf@oclc.org (Greg Feldman-Hill)
Subject: Re: Wrap text WITHIN a graphic: How?
Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:32:17 GMT

jtc1@cornell.edu (John T. Chapman) writes:
: In article <1992Dec11.210137.26612@oclc.org> Greg Feldman-Hill,
: glf@oclc.org writes:
: >I have (or have access to) SuperPaint (newest version), MS Word 4.x,
: >or PageMaker 3.x (yup, 3 not 4).  If anyone has any ideas on how to do
: >this, OR, if anyone knows of a software package
: >(free/share/commercial) that can just do what we need, I'd appreciate
: >the info.
: 
: Canvas 3.0 does wrapping of text within an object, along with slanted 
: text margins and binding text to a curve/polygon. I'm pretty sure 
: Illustrator and Freehand also have these features.
: 
: I _think_ Pagemaker 4.x will also allow you to do this (confirmation, 
: someone?), but don't have the manual handy at the moment.
: 
: Good luck,
: 
: -------------------------------------------------------------------------
:   John T. Chapman                                     jtc1@cornell.edu
:   Office of Computing and Statistical Consulting
:   Cornell University - College of Human Ecology
: -------------------------------------------------------------------------
: "Truth is after all a moving target/Hairs to split, and pieces that don't 
: fit/How can anybody be enlightened?/Truth is after all so poorly lit"
:                                              - N. Peart, Turn The Page
: -------------------------------------------------------------------------


Thanks everyone for the help.  I see that it's time to spend some
money on some proper design tools.

Can someone please confirm that PageMaker 4.x can wrap text INSIDE a
graphics object?  If so, this would be best for me.

Thanks again!

-- 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Greg Feldman-Hill  glf@oclc.org
OCLC - Online Computer Library Center, Dublin, Ohio         (614) 764-4356
    "If winning is not important, then Commander, why keep score?" -- Worf
From: ifby661@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Adam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Duplicating Coppy Protected Floppies
Date: 13 Dec 92 08:39:12 GMT
Organization: University of Texas
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d14
X-XXDate: Sun, 13 Dec 92 09:43:09 GMT

Hello. I have just bought some MIDI software from Opcode, and the disks
are coppy-protected. I have tried DiskCopy 4.2, DART, and some other
disk-copying programs, and they all give me error -71 (I think). Well, I
would like to make a back-up copy FOR MY OWN USE, and I dunno what to do.
 Can anyone suggest some program that will let me do this? (Hopefully
shareware/freewhere, and whre to get it)

Thanks in advanced...

_______________________________________________________________________
___
|           Adam           | Take me drunk officer, I'm not home...      
  |
|______________________________________________________________________
____|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Distribution: world
From: Robert_Cohen@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 01:44:47 EST
Subject: Smartkeys and System 7

I have always used Smartkeys 2.1 with system 6.07 without difficulty. I am now
using 6.07 on my internal hard drive and 7.0 with tuneup 1.1.1 on my external.
I have put Smartkeys into the system folder on the external drive. It loaded
correctly and its icon appeared on the screen at startup. I configured
Smartkeys to be active in Word 5.0 and a few other programs.  However,
Smartkeys does not activate. The only difference I have noticed between 6.07
and 7  is that in the setup box in 6.07 the active applications are preceded
by the application icon whereas in 7 the application just states Microsoft
Word, without any icon in front. The explanatory text that comes with
Smartkeys states it is system 7 compatible. Anyone have any suggestions that
might enable me to use one of my favorite little programs.
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From: kbern@next.com (Keith Bernstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: HELP! Can't get "CompactPro"
Date: 17 Dec 92 02:18:20 GMT
Reply-To: kbern@next.com (Keith Bernstein)

In article <6069@rosie.NeXT.COM> kbern@next.com (Keith Bernstein) writes:
> I downloaded some mac fonts from an FTP site.  They all have extensions  
> *.cpt.hqx.  I've been told I need "CompactPro" to uncompress them, so I  
> got CompactPro, BUT IT'S COMPRESSED!!  I downloaded a file named:  
> compactpro1.33.sea.hqx from /mac/util/compression at ftp site:  
> mac.archive.umich.edu.  How am I supposed to get an uncompressed version  
> of CompactPro?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Please post here  
> and/or e-mail me.  Thanks.
> 
> K.B.

Thanks to all responders.  I also found an uncompressed ComactPro on the  
Mac here, so I'm up and running!

Responses follow (for others in same boat)...

In comp.sys.mac.apps you write:

>I downloaded some mac fonts from an FTP site.  They all have extensions  
>*.cpt.hqx.  I've been told I need "CompactPro" to uncompress them, so I  
>got CompactPro, BUT IT'S COMPRESSED!!  I downloaded a file named:  
>compactpro1.33.sea.hqx from /mac/util/compression at ftp site:  
>mac.archive.umich.edu.  How am I supposed to get an uncompressed version  
>of CompactPro?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Please post here  
>and/or e-mail me.  Thanks.

The .hqx means it's BinHexed (you probably know that already). The .sea  
before
that means that after you un-Bin-Hex it, you should get a self-extracting
archive. Just double-click on it and let it run, you'll end up with the
uncompressed CompactPro.

Nick


It's not compressed; it's binhexed.  If you have either BinHex 4.0
(not 5.0) or any version of StuffIt beginning with v1.5, you only
need to unbinhex the file.  The ".sea" means that all you have to
do then is to double-click it and it will decompress itself.

 - Dave
From: lishka@dxcern.cern.ch (Christopher Lishka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Advice: which presentation software package suits my needs?
Date: 15 Dec 92 10:22:48 GMT
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics

I am the system manager for a group of scientists doing research into
high-energy physics.  We are currently updating our transparency
creation methods, mainly by purchasing a color PostScript printer.  In
the past drawing packages like Adobe Illustrator and Microsoft Word
have been used to create transparencies, but now we would like to look
into a presentation software package made for making the task easier.

The transparencies will mainly be used for scientific talks and
lectures.  The following list of requirements should be met:

	(a) Ease of use (the main requirement!).

	(b) Able to handle mathematical equations, possibly by
	    incorporating images from a package like Microsoft Word's
	    Equation Writer.

	(c) Able to produce plots, especially those geared towards
	    science (rather than business).

	(d) Able to incorporate EPS images and those produced by the
	    AppleScan software.

Which presentation software package do you recommend, and why?  I am
very interested in the strengths and weaknesses of each.  Do you know
of any good comparisons of presentation software packages?

Please respond to me at my email address (lishka@dxcern.cern.ch).  If
there is interest, I will post a summary to this newsgroup.  Thanks!

							.oO Chris Oo.

-- 
                                                           Christopher Lishka
 Never drive a car when you're dead...			   PPE Division, CERN
				-- Tom Waits		  lishka@dxcern.cern.ch
							     vxaluw::lishka
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: ccorbato@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Charles Corbato)
Subject: Re: Excel Day of Month as Value???
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:44:34 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.023449.1@acfcluster.nyu.edu> mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu writes:
>I need to know what to do so that a given cell in an Excel worksheet
>will have as its value whatever the day of the month it is.
>
>For example if the date is December 14 I want the value of the cell
>to be 14.  Etc.
>
>Is there a way to do this?

Try using the function DAY(date). This should do exactly what you want.


-- 
   +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
   | Charles Corbato                       Internet: corbato.1@osu.edu or |
   | Ohio State Univ, Columbus, OH     ccorbato@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu |
   +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
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