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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Know of any motorcycles movies?
From: emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 21:45:39 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Robert Smits

ceri@brite.demon.co.uk (Ceri Mitchell) writes:

> In article <104506@netnews.upenn.edu> ggrevera@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (George
> > I'd like to compile a list of motorcycle movies or movies with good or
> > significant motorcycle action in them.  Then I'd like to add the list
> > to the FAQ if possible.
> > 
> > So far I can think of
> > 
> > 	Easy Rider
> > 	On Any Sunday
> > 	Roadside Prophet	(or is it "Prophets"?)
> > 	Terminator II
> > 	The Wild One
> > 
> > I also remember one with a lot of motorcross in it but I can't remember
> > the name of it.  I'd appreciate any suggestions.  Thanks.
> > 
> > George
> > ggrevera@gradient.cis.upenn.edu
> > 
> 
> Did you get Streethawk (TV series) in the US ?  Bloke rides around on bike 
> dripping with guns, electronics and turbo booters, saving the world as he 
> goes. A bit like Nightrider (or was it Knightrider ?). Does anyone remember 
> this.
> 
> Ceri
> 
> PS. Another film, Purple Rain. Prince ponces around (when he's not cavorting)
> on a Honda something, with a large purple fairing attatched to it. How did he
> keep his hair in place ?  Alright, alright its not a biker film.
> 
> PPS. When are they going to show Easy Rider on UK TV because I've never seen
> it.
> 


Prince? They should have given him a scooter. 

However, I nominate "Chopper Chicks from Zombietown" as the absolutely 
WORST "biker" movie ever made, far outdoing all those '60 s flicks made 
after the success of Easy Rider. This "movie" which features a female 
biker gang battling a town of dead people who have come to life as 
zombies, because of a maniacal funeral director, is so dumb it's 
hilarious. 

As runner up, I nominate any movie with Peter Fonda on a bike.


Robert Smits Ladysmith BC  | Why do Englishmen drink warm beer?
emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca      | They all have Lucas refrigerators.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: csl@swl.msd.ray.com (Scott Lilliott)
Subject: Better price for FirstGear Scout Jacket?
Organization: Raytheon Company, Tewksbury, MA
Distribution: USA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:23:29 GMT

OK so I bought a new '91 leftover VFR - cool. Now I look at the FirstGear
Scout jackets and they're GASP! $388! with a discount! Is this what the going
price is for these things, or am I seeing Right Coast markuptheass?
Anybody know of a better place/price?

	T.A.
S.

-- 
#   Scott Lilliott -- csl@swl.msd.ray.com  (KotS)
 #  AMA #600897 "Gosh, that's the 3rd motorcycle that's passed us. Sure do take
#   DoD #0227    their life in their hands, what with the weather and all."
 #  INOA #8563   "Yes Janet, life's pretty cheap to that type."
From: root@danville (Super-User)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Diet Coke, Official drink of DoD
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:59:10 GMT
Reply-To: tavares@ctron.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher (egreen@East.Sun.COM) wrote:
: In article 6L0@inews.Intel.COM, rbodepud@sedona.intel.com (Ramana Bodepude) writes:
: >
: >	"Insurance agents who speed"
: >
: >and shows two guys racing on sport bikes (Not HD's) and we can hear 
: >the slogan "taste it all" playing in the background.
: 
: Which also proves a point about marketing/advertising of another kind.
: I have one of those ancient VCRs with only one head, and slow motion
: replays look like crap so I haven't verified, but I'll bet a pilsner
: lager stout ale that the lead bike is a Kawasaki.  That lime green may
: be ugly as hell, and violate some mysterious rule about racing colors,
: but it is unmistakable, and quite identifiable.
: 
: Somebody with good gear want to tape it and verify?
: 
: >Disciple Of the Devil #0799 
: >(Actually wanted 666 or 666/666)
: 
: Yo, Laz...
: 
: ---
: Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
:   Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
: DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
:  (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Gee! A single-head VCR? WoW! A member of SMSHVCR Club! (Slow-Motion Single Head
VCR) 

And here i was thinking that the reason you dont have a bike is because you spend
all your descretionary(sp?) income on high-tech audio/video equipment!


--
Jack Tavares    83 R80ST	
KotHO DoD# 0570 BMWMOA# 58278 AMA# 651191 BMWRA# 16087
Sorry, but at DoD minimum speed it is impossible to speak. There is just 
too much wind noise.  At that speed I am spending all my concentration 
allowance on riding, and cannot afford anymore thought for words.
However, when I finish a ride and the bike is in the garage cooling down, 
the single word that comes to mind is:

    BEER.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bigdog!jon (Jon Wright)
Subject: Re: single vs. dual disk
Organization: Pages Software Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 04:43:23 GMT

Dances With Bikers writes
> alex@csn.org (ALEX MATTHEWS) writes:
> 
> >As an aside, during the 16" wheel craze in the mid-'80s, manufacturers
> >needed to use two small disks to fit enough brake pad swept area inside 
> >the wheel rim.  Since the introduction of N-piston calipers and the 
> >return to 17"+ wheels this need has lessened, but not to the point where
> >stylists will let go of the dual-disk concept.
> 
> Isn't anyone going to mention the weirdo "inboard" disc brake that Honda
> toyed with on a couple of bikes a few years back? Or are those that have
> them embarrased at being a victim of one of Honda's technological
> practical jokes? :-)

Looking at the new Yamaha GTS wonderpuppy, it seems to have a single disk with  
three-pot calipers, mounted inboard sort-of.  Guess old habits die hard.

BTW, would a single disk with two sets of two-pot calipers stop as well as  
conventional dual disks with one set per disk?  Phyzziks, please.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: fist@iscp.bellcore.com (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: ZX-11 Transmission Update / More Corporate Interaction
Organization: Bellcore
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 12:04:11 GMT

Dealers will always blame the owner for problems unless it
is VERY obvious. Back in 73 I bought a Vega GT and loved it
till the first engine went at 14k, cost me $700 to get it
inspected for the "etching" problem they had with the aluminum
block, I ended up eating the motor even though it had a life
time guarantee from Quaker State THEIR excuse was I didn't
have the oil changes done at an "Approved" dealer ($35 a pop)
I got my oil and filters at the Navy Exchange for $1.50 for
the Fram filter and $.60 for the QUAKER STATE oil w/receipt.
Well when the second engine went at 27k I took it to Motion
Mini-car and had a 350/400hp w/t400 and detroit rear put in.
It took me 10 years to buy a GM product again and I still havent
touched QUAKER STATE products and will in fact go out of
my way to avoid QUAKER STATE, GOODRICH, FIRESTONE and
oxygenated fuels. 
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: igh50171@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The Seer )
Subject: Re: Suzuki RE-5?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 03:34:42 GMT

mjs@sys.uea.ac.uk (Mike Sixsmith) writes:

>bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca writes:

>>I read recently that Suzuki once put out a bike called the RE-5. 
>>Apparently it was a rotary engine bike. Can anyone out there tell me 
>>more about it?

>>Just curious,
>>BC

>Yup - Suzuki put that one out in the mid-seventies. It was not very 
>successful - hopelessly overweight, didn't handle, max speed about 110mph.
>The carburation was unbelievably complex, I seem to recall, despite which
>it still didn't run terribly well. It also had a little cover which 
>went over the instrument panel - switch on the ignition and hey presto, the
>instruments were revealed.

>All the ones I have seen were in museums...



I work in a bike shop outside of Chicago.  I've seen two of the things on
the road.... their owners love the beastly things  (some sort of cult thing
or something).




Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bcd@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (Bryan Dunlap)
Subject: Re: MSF Computer Challenge
Organization: OSU Physics Dept.
	<1993Jan22.213409.19258@news.columbia.edu>
	<BCD.93Jan22220725@redondo.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:59:36 GMT

In article <BCD.93Jan22220725@redondo.mps.ohio-state.edu> bcd@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (Bryan Dunlap) writes:

   I had no luck ftp'ing it to a unix box - something broke the format of
   the zip file between vms & unix.  So I ftp'd it to vms and then

Turns out telling kermit on the dos side the xfer was binary didn't
convince the server on the unix side (though it was apparently
sufficient for the vms kermit server).  It wasn't an ftp problem, it
was a kermit problem.  Live and learn.  

	Not a kermit wiz,
	==BD

Bryan Dunlap, OSU Physics Dept.      | Giving money and power to government is
bcd@mps.ohio-state.edu  614/292-3402 | like giving whiskey and car keys to 
174 W. 18th Ave. Columbus OH 43210   | teenage boys.  -- P.J. O'Rourke
DoD# 881   AMA# 653094    '75 GT250   '76 CB360T
From: leighann@quetzal.sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: AMA insurance?
Date: 19 Jan 93 01:09:43 GMT
Distribution: usa

I insure through the AMA.  The company that handles the AMA accounts is Frank B. Hall, formerly of Columbus
OH, now of somewhere else, but the 800 number is still good: 1-800-398-7158.  I don't remember offhand what
my rates are, and all the paperwork is at home, but I got a better rate through them than through Allstate, who
was my previous insurer.  I'll post real details shortly...

Cheers,
	- Leigh Ann

----------------
Leigh Ann Hussey  
leighann@sybase.com           {sun,lll-tis,pyramid,pacbell}!sybase!leighann
DoD#5913                  AMA#624549                    AWRRA#23 (skidoo!)
'74 Honda CB360 "Fyrdraka"   			'81 Yamaha Maxim650 "Elhaz"
"I do not trust thee, Cage from Hell, / The reason why I cannot tell, /
But this I know, and know full well: / I do not trust thee, Cage from Hell."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jacoby@suncis.ycc.yale.edu (Conrad J. Jacoby)
Subject: Re: Suzuki RE-5?
Organization: Yale University, Computing & Information Systems
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:23:01 GMT

In article <BLEVE.93Jan19122758@hoggle2.uucp> bleve@hoggle2.uucp (Bennett Lee Leve) writes:
>All the ones I have seen have been in pieces in garages.
>I actualy drove on once, and what a piece of crap.
>
>I think it was nicknamed 'Water Buffalo'.
>--
>
Actually, you're getting confused with the RE-5 and the GT750--a water cooled
triple two-stroke that was nicknamed "The Kettle" in the UK.

Just to add my $.02

--Conrad J.
  Jacoby@Suncis.ycc.yale.edu
  Dod #0039
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: an4929@anon.penet.fi (gonzo)
Subject:      Thanks to all who responded
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:15:59 GMT

I just wanted to thank all of the people out there who responded to
my questions about my Suzuki and it's voltage regulator or alternator
problem.  Well, I replaced the regulator, and the bike started a few
days ago, but it was cold, and I couldn't run it too long.  But, it
kept stalling, and I'm afraid that it wasn't the regulator.  I tried
yesterday to start it, and got a sprak which killed the electrical
system if I pressed the starter.  If I unhooked and rehooked the
battery, the lights would go back on, and presiing the starter killed
that again.  Now, I'm having to have it towed up to a bike shop to be
looked at ($45 just to look it over and do some minor tests).

I also have a question.  My bikes in pretty good condition, besides
this electrical problem, but if I have to have the alternator
replaced, that's about another $150 over what I've already spent on
the regulator.  what do you think about spending over $200 on a 13
year old bike that will probably last me about another year?

Thanks again for all your help.




Peace, love, and tomatoes,

Bill

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: That T2 motorcycle jump... Not real, just magic
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 06:52:57 GMT

weaver@castor.cs.uga.edu (Mike Weaver) writes:

>|> 	No, it was real.  What was bullshit is him riding away from it.


>No they didn't trash the bike in the movie. The jump was indeed bullshit. 
>They had guy wires on the bike to guide it gently to the ground. They then
>digitally edited the frames and wiped out the wires. Just another example
>of the use of computers in mainstream movies.

	That's not what I read in rec.moto when the movie first came out.
If you can't trust the net for facts, what can you...  Oh.  Sorry.

	Well, anyway the bike did make the jump.  Just very slowly.  How
did they get the suspension to compress that much when they showed the
landing, though, not to mention the sparks and the like?

< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
<  ISU only censors what I read, not what I say.  Don't blame them.  >
<     USENET: Post to exotic, distant machines.  Meet exciting,      >
<                 unusual people.  And flame them.                   >
From: npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Police blame BMW
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:21:14 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Antony Espindola (ant@galadriel.bt.co.uk) wibbled:

: I was readin in the national press over the weekend about how the
: Police are blaming BMW for the numerous accidents happening due to
: the 'wobble and weave' effect.

: In the UK, BMW supply 90% of bikes and the 'wobble and weave' effect
: was first noticed at high speeds on the older R80s.
: The various Police forces have since replaced the R80s with the newer
: K100s, hopefully to solve the problem but alas it still continued.
: The paper quoted a figure of #25,000 (pounds sterling) paid out to
: officers injured in these high speed incidents.

: The Police forces are now blaming BMW (I can't remember the exact
: reason) but BMW are defending themselves by repling that the effect
: is not caused by the bike itself. They claim it is a mixture of
: poor maintainence of police bikes, bad load spreading, increased wait
: of police equipment and also rider inexperiance.

: So what is the opinion of the netters ?

: BMW to fault or Police Riders ?

: Antony.   DoD#1832. 

Well, for a start, R80s don't ever reach "high speeds".  What speeds are we 
talking about here?  I can (have and do) cruise at DoD+25 on Kay, my K100RS 
even when she is unevenly loaded.  She also has the parts from two fairing 
screen add-on kits fastened to the top part of her fairing which must change 
the aerodynamics quite a lot.  I occasionally find her a bit unstable but that
can almost always be traceable to winds or poor road surfaces, etc.  She
doesn't get that much maintenance, either.

What equipment are they waiting for?  Helmets?  Manuals?  Leg protectors?
stabilisers?

Perhaps the Coppers who fell off were crap riders?

Are you a Copper?  Do you care?


Nick (the Bee Em Wobble-You Biker)   DoD 1069   Concise Oxford


M'Lud.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mayer@sono.uucp (Ron Mayer)
Subject: Re: Re; Nat'l Health Plan (Was: Re: Lance Hols
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:39:37 GMT




egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) <1k11kjINN26f@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> writes:
>
>>Thursday January 21 1993 16:38, Ron Mayer wrote to All:
>>
>> RM> IMHO the solution is that the insurance shouldn't pay for whatever one
>> RM> doctor/patient combination they choose.  Instead, they should consider
>> RM> the patient's condition, and if they don't like the doctor's
>> RM> "estimate", they'd send out some their own insurance-adjustor doctor
>> RM> to make his own estimate.  
>
>There was an article in this Sunday's local paper on just this problem
>(NOT solution!).   One surgeon had to hire a full time office manager
>just to deal with insurance adjustors, who called daily wanting to know
>how much urine a patient had passed, what his temperature was every
>hour, etc., etc.
>

I don't think this is the same problem/solution as what I proposed.
Once the doctor has made his estimate, I want the insurance company to
either accept the price, give the money to the doctor, and stay out of
the way; or not pay and have a different doctor deal with the patient.

The current problem is that doctors have a blank check to which they
can keep charging more and more to; so the insurance company needs to
be kinda paranoid about what the doctor's doing.  If the just gave the
doctor $x000.00 and told him to cure the patient, they wouldn't care
what his temperature was every hour.

        Ron Mayer sun!sono!mayer DoD#556  92R100GS 78GS400
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: vwelch@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Von Welch)
Subject: Re: Courier bag:  Do you have one?
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:37:35 GMT

In article <llrpafINNkp@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, fussy@hairball.Eng.Sun.COM (Tom Fussy - Display Development) writes:
|> 
|> I have been thinking about replacing my trusty Marsee magnetic tank briefcase
|> with a courier bag.  By courier bag I mean a largish portfolio looking thing
|> with a long strap for slinging over the shoulder.  Aerostich makes one of these
|> as do some other companies.  Before I invest my money, I thought I'd try and
|> get a few questions answered from any of you that use one:

I have a Land's End "Square Rigger" bag I use everyday. It's not at all
designed for motorcycling, but it works great for me. My bikes a GOOF2.

|> 1)  Are they prone to buffeting in the wind on the highway?

Not that I've noticed, but then I never carry mine empty.

|> 2)  Are they comfortable?  Do you forget you have it on?

Yes.  Mine stays on my back quite well. It has a wide (2") strap and is a
non-slick material, so it doesn't slide around.

|> 3)  Are they suited to all riding positions, i.e. do they work as well
|>     on sport bikes (lay down riding position) as on cruisers, and everything
|>     in between?

Works fine on a sport bike. Haven't tried it on the 650.

|> 4)  Do you like yours?  Is it practical and usefull?

It could be a little larger. I generaly augment mine with a tail pack If I
have to carry anything besides the usual. It's also pain to put on if you
forget and put your helmet on first, but it works great off the motorcycle
as well on on.


-- 
Von Welch (vwelch@ncsa.uiuc.edu)	NCSA Networking Development Group
'93 CBR600F2			'78 KZ650		'83 Subaru GL 4WD

- I speak only for myself and those who think exactly like me -
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Spartansburg, SC good for Motos ?
Date: 25 Jan 1993 17:14:35 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 2984@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu, ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang) writes:

>	I was talking to a headhunter today about a company in Spartansburg,
>South Carolina - Wabco.

No helmet law.

Close enough to Pisgah and Nantahala for some good day rides.


---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson)
Subject: Re: Diet Coke, Official drink of DoD?!?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:52:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.223331.12058@clark.dgim.doc.ca> young@mars.dgrc.doc.ca writes:
>Hey, speak for your *own* part of North America.
>
>Not all DoD'ers on this side of the pond drink Bud or Miller you know.  
>Some of us guzzle an occasional frosty Upper Canada Lager or a Mooshead
>or a Bra d'Or or...
>
Moosehead isn't a beer, it's a misdemeanor.

Seriously though, if you want to try a good US beer try something like
Anchor Liberty Ale, Grant's Scottish, or any of a hundred local, micro-brews.

-- 
| Dean Cookson / dcookson@mitre.org / 617 271-2714    | DoD #207  AMA #573534 |
| The MITRE Corp. Burlington Rd., Bedford, Ma. 01730  | KotNML  /  KotB       |
| "If I was worried about who saw me, I'd never get   | '81 CB750C            |
| nekkid at all." -Ed Green, DoD #0111                | '88 Bianchi Limited   |
From: tcora@pica.army.mil (Tom Coradeschi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: New Guppie in pond wants BMW info.
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:58:06 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
Organization: Elect Armts Div, US Army Armt RDE Ctr, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ

In article <C1F720.29yo@austin.ibm.com>, bade@athena2.austin.ibm.com
(Steven A. Bade) wrote:
> 
> leung@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Bruce Leung) writes:
> ]of this at the time.  He also mentioned that you might have to watch your
> ]water level a little closer in the summer.
> 
> Huh.  Water level on a Boxer ??????

Yup. Like in the battery? Like what this thread's all about?

                tom coradeschi <+> tcora@pica.army.mil

 (I know, I know _electrolyte_.)