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From: keis@psy.uwa.oz.au (Keis Ohtsuka)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Is this offensive?
Date: 21 Jan 1993 10:57:21 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au

tanaka@til.til.com (Yokichi Tanaka) writes:

re: 'nip' death trap

>Second of all, I find it quite offensive.  I find it much more
>offensive than "Brit" (tame), "Aussie" (tame), "Canuck" (really tame
>... the Vancouver hockey team calls them the Canucks).  I find the
>terms Jap and Nip almost as offensive as the term, nigger.
 
>I'm not going to psycho-analyze on why it's much more offensive, but
>that's how I feel, having grown up in the US, and having been called those
>on many occasions.
 
Perhaps because you belong to the ethnic/national group to which
a racial epithet is directed?  How could "Brit," "Aussie,"
or "Canuck" possibly be offensive to Mr Y Tanaka who is not any of
them?

I encounter "JAP" as Jewish American Priness more frequently in
modern American usage. Just make sure it is used as an epithet
directed to you before you hit the ceiling.  On second thought,
it could be annoying to be mistaken as a Jewish American Princess
when you're a Japanese male, I dunno.

I have never heard "Nip" used by Americans except in war-time
movies. "Nip" somehow sounds more British or Australian to
my year. It evokes an image of Japanese soldiers rampaging
through Asia. I use an adjective, "nippy," during winter or
go to a hardware store to buy a "nipper" but have never 
wondered what people think of me using "nip-" stem word.

Hearing a word fragment such as "nip-", associated
lexicons such as "nip" are activated in the mind of  a   
listener. If the listener notices that a speaker appears
to be an Asian possibly a Japanese, the listener may
realize an unfortunate pun with the uttered word. Of course,
the contextual information inhibits run-away associations
in most cases.  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: wee@darkside.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Operator)
Subject: Re: Japan and Israel
Organization: Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:53:30 GMT

Larry Greenfield (larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us) wrote:
: I'm not confusing economics with anti-semitism, but then what you're 
: basically admitting by your post is that Japanese business on the 
: whole has no morals. There is nothing wrong with making a profit, and 
: I don't mean to insist on Judeo-Christian morals in business, 
: however, for the world community, there should be some things where 
: business is affected.  For instance, the world-wide alienation of 
: South Africa.  Right now, China is a touchy subject. Japan Inc is 
: doing a great job there, and some US companies are doing a good job 
: there too (ie, making $$). However I am in favor of revoking MFN for 
: China.  In the long run, it is the best we can do for them. Here we 
: spend billions and billions trying to let democracy bud (and 
: sometimes cramming it down other's throats militarily, ie, Grenada) 
: but what do we do with China? Reward the hardliners with MFN. I'm 
: glad Clinton is president now... I hope he does not continue MFN.  
: Purely business-wise, you could argue who cares?  In fact, who cares 
: if they use prison labor?  Who cares if they beat and whip their 
: workers, hey, this is business.  But there does come a point where 
: you have to have some personal morals, I believe, in business. Not 
: someone else's perhaps, but your own.  
: :::::Larry:::::

: :::::larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us::::: // :::::Larry Greenfield:::::
: :::::::::::Using a 6809-based Tandy Color Computer 3:::::::::::
: ::::::::Just your average modeming Classical Violinist:::::::::

I don't have any solid facts with me, but don't we use prison
labor here in the U.S. too?  (One rumor off the top of my head,
license tags ;)


-- 
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Huy Nguyen                        | "It's not nearly enough to survive,
wee@darkside.uoknor.edu           |  But to live." - M.M.
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From: tanaka@til.til.com (Yokichi Tanaka)
Subject: Re: Is this offensive?
Organization: Togai InfraLogic, Inc.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:00:01 GMT

In article <1jlvihINN9t8@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, keis@psy.uwa.oz.au (Keis Ohtsuka) writes:
|> tanaka@til.til.com (Yokichi Tanaka) writes:
|> 
|> re: 'nip' death trap
|> 
|> >I find it much more
|> >offensive than "Brit" (tame), "Aussie" (tame), "Canuck"
|> > [stuff deleted]   I find the
|> >terms Jap and Nip almost as offensive as the term, nigger.
|>  
|> Perhaps because you belong to the ethnic/national group to which
|> a racial epithet is directed?  How could "Brit," "Aussie,"
|> or "Canuck" possibly be offensive to Mr Y Tanaka who is not any of
|> them?

You don't have to be in the particular ethnic group to be offended
by derogatory phrases.  From years of hearing how each of the terms
are used, you start to associate certain terms with certain nuances/
feelings.  It offends me when someone calls a person of Mexican 
origin a beaner or an African-American a nigger; although, I am
neither.

|> I encounter "JAP" as Jewish American Priness more frequently in
|> modern American usage. Just make sure it is used as an epithet
|> directed to you before you hit the ceiling.

Gee, I didn't know that. :-)  With all due respect, Mr. Ohtsuka, I am a
Japanese-American and have lived in the US for close to 25 years.  I 
have encountered a lot of racism in pre-college years ... especially
around junior high school years.  I know when I am called a Jap
or a Nip.

|> I have never heard "Nip" used by Americans except in war-time
|> movies. "Nip" somehow sounds more British or Australian to
|> my year.

Where did you live in the US?  LA is quite integrated.  There are
racial problems here, but at the same time, these problems are
dealt in the open.  It's good and it's bad.  Jap is probably twice
as common, but Nip is widely used.  In fact, I remember reading
an article in a local Japanese newspaper of a Japanese lady who was 
ridiculed for buying Nabisco's Nip crackers, and felt much hurt.

-- 
Yoke Tanaka                Togai InfraLogic, Inc.       "fuzzy"
tanaka@til.com             5 Vanderbilt, Irvine, Calif 92718, USA
gordius!til!tanaka         714-975-8522
From: manji@aegis.or.jp (Manji Shikata)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: KANSAI GAIDAI IS HERE!
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:57:05 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan
Originator: manji@aegis

Hello TURKU,

I was informed of your E-mail#15272 through my sysdomain master.  I 
am the man
working for Kansai Gaidai.  I hope I will be of any help to you.  Do 
you want 
to know about 'programs' opened for non-native speakers of Japanese 
at KANSAI 
GAIDAI.  
           Sincerely,

Manji Shikta
Prof. Kansai Gaidai College

--
Manji Shikata  
BITNET/JUNET: manji@aegis.or.jp
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Kansai Gaidai ?
Date: 21 Jan 93 23:45:39 GMT

jkinnunen@sara.cc.utu.fi writes:

>      Could anyone please tell me about the KANSAI GAIDAI University
>      in Japan ? I believe it is in Osaka.

Osaka-fu, I believe. The city is Hirakata.

>      What subjects are taught there (languages, culture, economics) ?
>      Anything else related to it is also welcome to be commented.

I'll mail this to somebody who teaches there and may have time to reply....

>      This because our collage has an exchange program with this university.

And they know anything about it?

Dave

--
Dave McLane 
JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp (NISHIYAMA Tetsuto)
Subject: Re: Sumo - Hatsu Basho (Akebono Promoted)
Reply-To: tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp
Organization: Omron Corporate R&D H.Q.- R&D Support Dept.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:30:47 GMT


In article <1k1280$69n@agate.berkeley.edu>, haniff@argon.berkeley.edu
(Tariq M. Haniff) writes:
|> 
|> I heard on fj.rec.sports that it has been announced that Akebono will
|> be promoted to Yokozuna!  Can anybody else confirm this?
|> 
|> -Tariq

	I heard on the 6:30 news this morning that Akebono WILL be 
promoted to the rank of Yokozuna (the first gaikokujin-senshu to attain
this rank, as well as one of the quickest...31 or 32 tournaments) and
Takahanada will be promoted to the rank of Ozeki, making him the youngest
Ozeki in history.
=========================================================================
Teddy Nishiyama  (tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp)  OMRON Corporation  (^_^;
R&D Support Dept(LSA), Shimokaiinji, Nagaokakyo-shi, Kyoto-fu 617  JAPAN
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: f54713@sakura.kudpc.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Ellis Yan-Chee Lau)
Subject: Re: US-Japan Online Computer Service?
Organization: Data Processing Center, Kyoto University, Kyoto, JAPAN
	<1993Jan18.191705.5098@rsd0.rsd.dl.nec.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:46:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan18.191705.5098@rsd0.rsd.dl.nec.com> ron@rss.dl.nec.com (Ron Guest) writes:

 >GEnie is accessible via PC-VAN in Japan.  I think Compuserve
 >is accessible via NIFTY Servie in Japan.

There are many commercial networks in Japan such as Nifty-Serve, PC-VAN,
ASCII-net etc. Nifty-Serve links with CompuServe while PC-VAN with GEnie.
If you access GEnie via PC-VAN, it costs you 90yen per minute including
the service charges of GEnie and international phone line. It is too
expensive to me so I have never tried it.

--
                <========================================>
                 From:  Ellis Yan-chee Lau   $@N-(J $@28;|(J
                        f54713@sakura.kudpc.kyoto-u.ac.jp
                        KYOTO UNIVERSITY, JAPAN

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner)
Subject: Re: Is this offensive?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
	<RHB.93Jan23140321@world.std.com>
	<1993Jan26.105628.28422@Csli.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:20:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.105628.28422@Csli.Stanford.EDU> hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:

[THE BULK OF THIS FRAGMENTARY THREAD DELETED]

   If you're going to accuse anyone of being an apologist,
   why not check out your own words as a good starter?

I agree. Sometimes I lapse into a defensive posture about the U.S.,
which is my country. Others have exhibited the same emotion in this
group, and in this very thread. I'm sorry if I have tended to ramble
and to spew as a result of this emotion. I think, after this long and
unfruitful discussion (?), that all of us involved in this thread have
tended to react first with our anger or annoyance and second with our
reason.  The remark about Owada-san's experience of "ijime" was, in
context, gratuitous. The insults hurled at me as a result were, at
best, overreactions.

I accept my part of the responsibility for boring and/or annoying the
rest of the net with this petty, tedious, and sometimes vicious
thread. I hope all other parties will search their hearts and accept
theirs.

And this is all I have to say on this subject. Any continuation of
this thread will not include me.

RB

-- 
|"The truth is cruel, but it can be loved, and it makes free those who  |
| have loved it." -- George Santayana  // Opinions expressed here, when |
| clear and persuasive, are my own. --Rob Brueckner (rhb@world.std.com) |
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Naze Nihonjin mada kujira toru?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 04:51:55 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: locusts.berkeley.edu

In article <1993Jan27.182730.86039@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> jpr1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (James P. Reynolds) writes:
>Konnichi wa!
>
>Watakushi wa Nihongo ga heta desu.  Yomiyoi nozomu.
>
>Tegami o "Greenpeace"kara morau.  Tegami Nihonjin kujira mata tsurini irassharu
>nozomu mosu.
>
>Kore shinpai saseru.  Nihon ryooshi kono kagakuteki ossharu, ga kujira Nihon
>uogashi iku.  Mata Nihon sen kujira toru nozomu.  Sugu kujira to iu hodo
>nokujira wa gozaimasen.
>
>Nihonjin zenbu no hoka wa kujira meshiagaru ka?     :-)
>
>
>Jim Reynolds
>
>
I don't know whether to take this as flamebait.  The rhetoric sounds suspiciously similar to comic-book Chinese-pidgin mimicry.  Assuming he's serious, I
must say, this sounds like yet another racist didactic emanating from
Greenpeace.  Of course, Norwegians or Icelanders are not guilty of leading
the campaign for relegalizing whaling.  No one wants to hunt endangered
species, but only species that are overpopulating and pose a threat to other
whales.  Anyway, I think Greenpeace is a highly irresponsible publicity- 
freak organization for hippie kids & other eco-nuts to  have a rave at sea.
Anyway, I've had whale sashimi before.  I think tuna tastes better, but
whalemeat is the right of the good-taste handicapped.  Many states in the
US subsidize hunting campaigns for deer, boar, and other overpopulating animals
that tear up the ecosystem.  Traditionally, wolves would have attended to the
problem, but since we've wiped them out it's our responsibility to play the
predator's role.  The same applies for whales.  If we've disrupted the 
ecosystem and caused certain species to overpopulate, it's our responsibility
to prevent this from happening, lest further catastrophic chain-reactions
occur.  Now, knowing the way leftists are, I can predict you will flame me
right back with allegations that I am a bigot, fascist, and eat too much meat.
No.  It's you who is suffering from meat-deprivation syndrome, marked by a
detachment from reality.

EATMEATEATMEATEATMEATEATMEATEATMEATEATMEATEATMEATEATMEATEATMYMEATEATMYMEATEATMY









Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: Y0L0000 <Y0L0@UNB.CA>
Subject: TEST, PLEASE IGNORE
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:49:34 GMT

HI THERE THIS IS A TEST MESSAGE SO PLEASE IGNORE IT.  HAVE A NICE
DAY

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: k3amichi@student.business.uwo.ca (Kentaro Nakamichi)
Subject: Re: HDTV in Japan
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:50:57 GMT

tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Tad Perry) writes:

> In article <VBoRXB4w165w@batpad.lgb.ca.us> larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Larry Gre
> >I know that there is currently sat-broadcast HDTV in Japan, but I'm 
> >wondering... it seems that the (US) FCC will pick an American 
> >standard for HDTV that is different than the Japanese standard 
> >(because the Japanese standard is old and uses analog, where the 
> >standards proposed are digital).  Has there been anything in the 
> >Japanese papers or trades about what might happen if (when) the US 
> >picks a different standard? Will Japan still stay with the old 
> >standard or is there a move towards a global standard?
> 
> No global standardization is likely, but Japanese researchers at NTT
> are working full bore on a fully digital standard called Super High
> Definition (SHD) which will be incompatible with everything: the US's
> new digital HDTV, Japan's own analog HDTV, and good old NTSC.
> Consumers in Japan are not being told that HDTV is already scheduled
> for replacement with SDH because it could hurt HDTV sales (I got this
> out of a Nomura market analysis). In fact, despite what you hear,
> Nomura at least was fairly impressed with the technology being
> researched by the US but questioned our insistence on backward
> compatibility with NTSC. We shall see. Anyone taking bets that the
> Japanese adopt our standard in the end?
> 
I was under the impression that the US delayed their announcement of a 
HDTV standard and provided funds to RCA to do research becuase they were 
annoyed with the Japanese destroying their TV manufacturers until only 
RCA was left.  I am sure that they will adopt an incompatible format; I 
am not a technical guy and couldn't begin to speculate on the 
implications, however.

k3amichi@student.business.uwo.ca (Kentaro Nakamichi)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Need info: New England Jap. Cult. Convention
From: ksayama@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 24 Jan 93 23:05:35 EST
Organization: Wesleyan University

To whom it may concern,

	Hi!  We, Japanese student at Wesleyan, are interested in attending the
New England Japanese Cultural Convention.  So far, we know that it takes place
in the second semester at Brown U.  Well... I suppose we need to know a little
bit more about it.  If anyone has more detailed info about the convention, we
would appriciate it if you let us know.  See ya around!             Thanx.
							Kento Sayama
From: d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp (Daisaku Itasaka)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Racial Discrimination in Hiring English Teachers
Date: 26 Jan 93 02:03:52 GMT
Organization: NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd., Tokyo, Japan

In article <43988@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>
	ee52fbc@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (Maiko Covington) writes:

>	How do I feel about it? I think it is terrible. I feel the
>same way I did when I interviewed for an English teaching job and
>was flatly rejected because my breasts are not big enough and I am
>quite short. Yep, I was told this directly. What on earth do the
>size of my breasts have to do with my language abilities?

I am so sorry to read that.
But I dare say, pinup-girl type of women can attract more students
than non-pinup-girl type of women can do. English schools are not
compulsory, that is, making money is their purpose. For that purpose,
they should hire those who can make more money. That's the way they
do their business, not a racial discrimination at all.

-- 
A wrong guy in a wrong place at wrong time...
						 Daisaku Itasaka
				      d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp
				NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: diamond@jit.dec.com (Norman Diamond)
Subject: Weapons are too easily available
Reply-To: diamond@jit.dec.com (Norman Diamond)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Japan , Tokyo
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 06:13:37 GMT

My employer's network has been slower than usual recently, so I don't know
if anyone else has posted this real-world news.  Sorry if this is redundant.
My comments follow.

-----------
Man Slain for Parking In Front of Home:  Police

     Angry over a light truck parked in front of his home, an [age*]
[gender*] stabbed [*] 34-year-old next door neighbor in the chest with a
Japanese sword in [prefecture*] on Wednesday, police said.  The wounded
man, Eishoku Toyoda, a company employee, died in a hospital from excessive
loss of blood.

     The assailant, [name*], [age*], holed up in [*] home with the sword,
but was persuaded by police to surrender after 20 minutes.  [name*] is
being questioned on suspicion of murder.

     Early Wednesday morning Toyoda parked a light truck he had borrowed
from a relative in front of [name*]'s home in [city*] City with the engine
running according to police.  [name*] came out and banged on the truck hood
several times with a meter-long hammer.  Toyoda then came out and got into
an argument with [name*], who went into [*] home, returned with a sword and
reportedly stabbed Toyoda.

     On Monday, [*] had complained that exhaust gas from a car parked in
Toyoda's garage was flowing into [*] home, police said.  Previously there
was trouble over renovation of Toyoda's house.
-----------
From the English newspaper Asahi Evening News, Thursday, Jan. 21, 1993,
without permission.  (AEN gave no attribution for the article.)

[* Digital's policy prohibits defaming any person.  Therefore I have
had to delete information that would specify a person being defamed.
Disclaimer:  This policy does not reflect the opinion of the poster.]
-----------
My question:  Why are weapons so freely available in Japan?  It seems
like anyone can get their hands on a sword.  If the government would
put tighter restrictions on sword ownership, Mr. Toyoda would still be
alive.

The victim in this tragedy understood the language spoken by [name*].
But just imagine, this could have been an exchange student or other
innocent person who just wanted to come here to learn about Japan, maybe a
language student or someone who might not understand [name*]'s complaints.

I would like to see petitions circulated in other countries, requesting
the Japanese government to implement sword control for the protection of
its own society and the world community.  In fact, I understand that even
a large number of Japanese signed a very similar petition in response to
another similar tragedy just a few months ago in the world community.
--
Norman Diamond                diamond@jit.dec.com
If this were the company's opinion, I wouldn't be allowed to post it.
Pardon me?  Or do I have to commit a crime first?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: IZZYEY8@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Howard Cheng)
Subject: Re: Japanese name !!
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:41:25 PST

In article <MS-C.727688673.1103527590.mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM>, on 21 Jan 1993 23:44:33 -0800 (PST),
Mark Crispin <mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM> writes:

>
>Safest bet: ask a native Japanese or a more experienced student before making
>assumptions, because there are too many exceptions.  Then too, there are wierd
>names such as ``Mako'' which appear to be feminine, but are written in
>hiragana so there is ambiguity.
>
"Mako" is sometimes short for "Makoto," however.  Isn't it also a kind
of shark?

howard
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: jturley@netcom.com (Jim Turley)
Subject: Re: How about a new newsgroup here?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 04:52:25 GMT

Hey gang, how about alt.rie!
From: haniff@argon.berkeley.edu (Tariq M. Haniff)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Sumo - Hatsu Basho (Akebono Promoted)
Date: 25 Jan 1993 15:50:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: argon.berkeley.edu


I heard on fj.rec.sports that it has been announced that Akebono will
be promoted to Yokozuna!  Can anybody else confirm this?

-Tariq
From: blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: A woman's ankle....
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:13:40 GMT
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.


=> In article <TNT.93Jan20090227@netcom.com> tnt@netcom.com 
=> (Terry Turner) writes:
=> >a friend told me recently that japanese men talk about women's ankles.
=> >this seemed strange to me. this friend then explained that an ankle is
=> >supposed to tell you something about the woman. but do to the "delicacy"
=> >of the topic no explanation was given.
=> >
=> >first do men really spend time talking about women's ankles? and if so
=> >what is it supposed to tell one about them?

In article <1jkvop$th@agate.berkeley.edu>, robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu
(Henry Robertson) writes:
=> Every culture has its preoccupations with certain bodily parts as a way to
=> describe character, as a tradition or fad.  

Perhaps the ankle business is not so mysterious when you consider
the tradional garb worn by Japanese women for centuries, and
what part of the female anatomy was visible for a topic of
discussion. I guess a kimono hides about everything except
the feet... up to the ankles.
Organization: Masters student, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 21:15:55 -0500 
From: Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: How about a new newsgroup here?
	<1jlglvINNg1q@shelley.u.washington.edu>

Thing is funny! Wow! I could never be this funny! 


In article ><1jlbsh$3rg@agate.berkeley.edu> robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu
(Henry Robe
>rtson) writes:
>>Mr. Asano is like an undefeatable kaijuu immolating the city of scj in a
>>sea of flames; anti-Rikiya elements, like inept Jieitai soldiers firing
>>puny little rockets that only anger Him more.  When resistance proves futile,
>>perhaps it is time to pray for His appeasement; ultimately, He will nod His
>>head and return to the sea.
> 
>What?!  Is there no Ultraman?  Is there no hope?

By the way, Ultraman was my hero!  Does anyone know who was the guy in
the suit?