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From: blayda@acsu.buffalo.edu (Danger)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Re: Restricted meetings
Date: 14 Aug 92 01:06:38 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <713227964.F00003@blkcat.UUCP> Dave.Aronson@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Aronson) writes:
>sya@ceas3.keh.utulsa.edu (Syed Shibli) writes:
>
>SS>   most kitchen implements can be a cause for concern:
>SS>   (1) spoons -- can be used to gouge another guest's eyes
>SS>   (2) forks -- can be used to stab another person
>SS>   (3) knives -- more stabbings
>SS>   (4) chopsticks -- can be used to poke one's eyes
>SS>   (5) soup spoons -- see (1)
>SS>   (6) plates -- bash another on the head
>SS>   (7) bowls -- see (6)
>SS>   (8) pots and pans -- see (7)
>
>Don't forget the tables and chairs found in many kitchens.  Pots can also be
>used to heat assorted liquids to splash on people.  Dishtowels of sufficient
>size can be used to strangle people.  A blender can also be used as a heavy
>blunt object.  And you can poison them with the cleansers, not to mention that
>leftover bit of pot roast that should have been thrown out months ago.
>
>Not much can be easily done with a wire whisk though, except maybe to poke an
>eye with the handle....

Not so!  The wire wisk is easily adapted to multiple pointed wires
suitable for poking out eyes, causing bloody noses, eliminating the
auditory process, etc.  In addition, might I contend that the wire
wisk indirectly is far more lethal than all of the above when in the
hands of an incompetent cook.



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From: jswthomp@milton.u.washington.edu (James Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Re: Daylenth
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:55:20 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <14994@claris.com> mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.120838.10441@walter.cray.com>, glover@midnight.cray.com (Roger Glover) writes:
>
>> Pendantics of the world, unite!  You have nothing to miss but the point!
>> 
>> Err, ... what was the point anyway?
>
>Many people would tell you that this newsroup in entirely pointless.

...Which is precisely why I read it.

Jim Thompson (jswthomp@u.washington.edu)
From: Dave.Aronson@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Aronson)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Demise of honor programs
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:26:18 -0500

werme@alliant.com (Ric Werme) writes:

RW> What you
RW> propose is a glorious way to ensure that no one who competes
RW> in a race need admit that he came in last.

Like the mythical headline "Soviets Place Second; Americans Next to Last" - in
a Pravda report of a two-team race.

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From: ta-vg11@muddnext4.cc.columbia.edu (Vikas Gupta)
Subject: Re: Who needs Geniuses?
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:14:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.175057.2651@u.washington.edu>  
jswthomp@milton.u.washington.edu (James Thompson) writes:
> I'm confused:  in the "Guess the ages of the three daughters" problem,  
what
> new information is given by the third statement?  Does "My eldest  
daughter has
> blue eyes" imply that the two oldest are not twins?  How?  All three  
could
> have blue eyes!
> 
> Jim
> (jswthomp@u.washington.edu)
The last statement provides the info that he has AN ELDEST daughter.
Vikas
From: fuller@athena.cs.uga.edu (James P. H. Fuller)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Re: Prejudice against intelligence
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:48:22 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

tolman%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Kenneth Tolman) writes:

> You walk into a bar, sit down next to an attractive person, and then
>smile.  They look up at you, and say, "Hey, aren't you on the University
>(soccer, football, swimming, etc ) team?"
>  You look at them for a second, and they seem really interested.  "yeah,"
>you reply, "I am on the math team"
>  Something went wrong, because the attractive person has suddenly turned
>cold.
>
>  So why is it acceptable to be athletically better than everyone else,
>but not to be more intelligent?  Are people afraid of intelligence?  Is
>there some ancient cultural mystique which surrounds the concept of
>intelligence?  What is the deal?

     Well, a bar isn't my first choice of places to locate bright new friends.
I think the turn-off in your scenario is perfectly easy to understand: what
went through the suddenly-cold person's mind was "Oh God, what to talk about?"
and she (he) drew a blank ("Met any good Fibonacci numbers lately?") and sud-
denly she's caught outside her comfort zone with her buns in the breeze and 
this is not promising for further cordial relations.  After all, almost anyone
can talk about football, swimming, etc.  What you want -- in a bar, anyway --
is conversational *openers*, not *stoppers*.  You want to talk about systems of
nonlinear differential equations?  That's what you joined the bloody math team
for!  If that sounded like a slap it wasn't intended to be, but it does strike
me as naive for a top-two-percenter to think that "just be yourself" is ap-
propriate social advice for *any* social situation.  Guys, it AIN'T!

                                                     -- jf


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From: blayda@acsu.buffalo.edu (Danger)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Re: Restricted meetings
Date: 14 Aug 92 01:08:49 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <713227964.F00004@blkcat.UUCP> Dave.Aronson@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Aronson) writes:
>shapiro@trade.enet.dec.com (Steve Shapiro) writes:
>
>SS>The question about those of us with black belts, knives, swords, nunchucks,
>SS> etc., never arose. Many of us would train in and around the house with
>these
>SS> weapons on a regular basis without a word being said. I
>SS> guess that there's just something about a handgun...
>
>Easily concealable, very lethal even in the hands of the unskilled, dangerous
>to all around in the hands of the unskilled, works at a distance, can often go
>through the intended target (and walls, or miss or richochet) and hit innocent
>bystanders, etc.  It is a far more innately dangerous object than any other
>common weapon.  

This is about the pressure cooker right?  Yeah, I've seen those things work
wonders.  Very unassuming on the outside.

>OTOH, if the *person* is adequately trained (both in the usage
>skills, and when [not] to use it), there is very little worry....


Very true.

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From: Dave.Aronson@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Aronson)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Dorky Yellow Map Pin (wa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:23:06 -0500

mike_steiner@qm.claris.com writes:

MS> In the 1960s and early 70s, someone was selling yellow plastic balls to
MS> Mensans to put on car antennas so we could recognize each other when
passing
MS> on the highways and byways.  I don't know how many people bought them (I
MS> didn't), but I have never seen one in use.

So all those utility vehicles with tennis balls on their antennae are driven
by Mensans?  Wow, THAT's a surprise!
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: McBean was gone may need help, eh?
From: mcbeanb@brandonu.ca
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:20:59 CST
Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

Our connection to internet was screwed up for a number of days,
so either I'm getting old messages, or I've missed a whole bunch...
So, if there was a post you wanted me to read, then please
email me, and maybe I could post a reply or something...
Also, if you want to send me money, then email me and I'll
give you my address (I like people who send me money!)

Brian McBean  -  McBeanB@BrandonU.Ca
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
From: graef@rs5.hrz.th-darmstadt.de (Ulrich Graef)
Subject: Re: Mensa math question (intelligent solution missing)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 12:43:46 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: TU Darmstadt

In article <1992Aug11.034235.27548@unixg.ubc.ca>, Sundar_Prasad@mtsg.ubc.ca writes:
> I have an invite to a party. All that I know is the name of the street on
> which the party house is located. To test me, my friends have given me the
> number of the  house in this form:
> The house number has 3 digits. The sum of the first two digits, multiplied
> by the sum of the last two digits, multiplied by the sum of the first and
> last digits, all divided by 3 is the same as the house number. Can I find
> the house?
> 
> All I could do was:
> If the digits are x, y and z, the above condition can be written as:
> 
> (x + y)*(y + z)*(x + z) = 3*(100x + 10y + z)

I can also find a solution by an exhaustive search with my computer.
But who has an intelligent solution?


I have the beginning, who can help to complete it:

	You can see easily, that the left side is growing cubic and
	the right side is growing linearly.
	So its probable, that there exist only 1 (nontrivial) solution
	( I want to exclude the 000, because it is unusual,
	even in U.S.A. .).

	So you can find the oder of the number, when you assume, that
	all digits are equal. The equation becomes:

		( 2 * x )^3	=	3 * ( 111 * x )

	  ==>	8 * x^3		=	333 * x		| x is not zero

	  ==>	x		= sqrt( 333 / 8 ) ~= 6.451

	That is a coarse estimation of the first digit.


From this point on I have only ideas:

	The first digit is a 6, perhaps a 5, because otherwise
	y and z must be incresed over 9 to fulfil the equation.

	One of the sums must be dividable by 3.


Any more ideas to an intelligent solution?


Uli (MM)

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From: johnson@sleipnir.mnesouth.corp.mot.com (Mark Johnson)
Subject: Re: Dorky Yellow Map Pin (was Re: Being ashamed of being in Mensa)
Reply-To: johnson@sleipnir.mnesouth.corp.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Wireless Enterprises, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:51:40 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.091045.24750@eagercon.com>, eager@eagercon.com (Michael J. Eager) writes:
=)In article 17212@caeco.mentorg.com, randall@riffraff.slc.mentorg.com (Randall S. Krebs) writes:
=)>
=)>Now, just what the hell is this?  I send in my 39 bucks and I get
=)>a letter welcoming me to the organization, an official membership
=)>card, and a DORKY YELLOW MAP PIN to be worn on the lapel?!!  Has
=)>it always been this way?  Do all of you card-carrying M's know where
=)>your DORKY YELLOW MAP PINs are?  Maybe one of you old-timers can
=)>fill me in on this issue.  There's got to be a great story behind
=)>it somewhere.
=)
=)I keep finding my DORKY YELLOW MAP PIN in the bottom of boxes.  I've
=)moved and I've been unpacking.  And what do I find, among relics from
=)far-off lands, letters I ment to answer four years ago, and expired
=)cents-off coupons?  The map pin.  Almost 15 years old, now.  I did 
=)what I've always done.  I tossed the map pin into a different box.

I never got a DORKY YELLOW MAP PIN, at least that I remember.  However, I
recall a story from the Lansing, MI group (I think)--in order to identify
their table to arriving group members at a restaurant outing, they had a
centerpiece which was a huge styrofoam DORKY YELLOW MAP PIN sticking into
a map of Michigan.  When asked about this by passers-by, since not everyone
was comfortable with explaining Mensa to random strangers, they would tell
them that they were from the Michigan Orange Growers Association.  If the
curious bystander noticed the discrepancy there, they would _then_ explain
about Mensa.
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From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Re: Prejudice against intelligence
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:38:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.173732.24797@ttinews.tti.com>, hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Aug18.051121.2209@hellgate.utah.edu> tolman%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Kenneth Tolman) writes:
> } You walk into a bar, sit down next to an attractive person, and then
> }smile.  They look up at you, and say, "Hey, aren't you on the University
> }(soccer, football, swimming, etc ) team?"
> }  You look at them for a second, and they seem really interested.  "yeah,"
> }you reply, "I am on the math team"
> }  Something went wrong, because the attractive person has suddenly turned
> }cold.
> }
> }  So why is it acceptable to be athletically better than everyone else,
> }but not to be more intelligent?  ...
> 
> For what it's worth, being athletically better doesn't guarantee
> acceptance either.  I was on the gymnastics team in high school.  I even
> earned a letter.  I still couldn't get a date, had few friends, didn't go
> to the proms, etc. (I've since found that being in reasonably good
> physical condition _does_ help.  Healthy people are generally more
> attractive).

Wrong sport.  The common perception of gymnastics is that it is an "elitist"
sport; you shoulda been a football player.  "Ya gotta be a football hero..."
From: schin@acs.bu.edu (neil schier)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Re: Famous Mensans besides Isaac Asimov and Mel Lazarus, Chekov (ST)
Date: 22 Aug 92 00:35:10 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

Yes that's right Mr. Koenig is a Mensan (alright that and fifty cents will
get you a cup of coffee -)

Regards
Neil Schier
.
From: ts@cup.portal.com (Tim W Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Re: Genius sperm bank
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 21:44:39 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

> maybe we're not talking Hitler here just yet.  Still, I have some
> serious problems with this whole setup.  What happens now?  Will 
> women refuse to procreate with just anybody, but gravitate toward

Women already refuse to procreate with just anybody, at least in the
places I've been.  Do you know many women who aren't selective about
who they procreate with?

I, and many others, want names and addresses! :-)

--Tim Smith
From: hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Re: AG Hotel sites
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:10:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Cat Factory

In article <15017@claris.com> mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:

}... If the 1994 AG were to be at a Hyatt,
}would that keep you from going?

Regarding the SF AG, I thought the Hyatt did an excellent job under
adverse circumstances (as an airport hotel they were geared for business
travellers, not casual conventioneers.  This was not their fault).  I
wouldn't hesitate to attend an event at another Hyatt.

The Polymath (aka: Jerry Hollombe, M.A., CDP, aka: hollombe@polymath.tti.com)
Head Robot Wrangler at Citicorp                   Turn the rascals out!
3100 Ocean Park Blvd.   (310) 450-9111, x2483     No incumbents in '92!
Santa Monica, CA  90405
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From: hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath)
Subject: Re: Restricted meetings
Organization: The Cat Factory
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:22:01 GMT

In article <14977@claris.com> mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:
}> mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:
}> 
}> }... there was one person who was not welcome to some people's homes unless he
}> }could prove that he was not armed--and since he refused to go anywhere
}> }unarmed, he never went to those people's homes.

}... He was the only person in the group known
}to go armed.  He was told that if he would leave his weapon at home or in
}his car, he would be more than welcome in those people's homes.

Sounds like an equitable arrangement.  I, and others, apply essentially
the same rules to people who smoke.  Likewise, there are events I don't
attend because of their unrestricted smoking policies.

The Polymath (aka: Jerry Hollombe, M.A., CDP, aka: hollombe@polymath.tti.com)
Head Robot Wrangler at Citicorp                   Turn the rascals out!
3100 Ocean Park Blvd.   (310) 450-9111, x2483     No incumbents in '92!
Santa Monica, CA  90405
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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Famous Mensans besides Isaac Asimov and Mel Lazarus, Chekov (ST)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:48:51 GMT

In article <15050@claris.com> mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:
>In article <94140@bu.edu>, schin@acs.bu.edu (neil schier) writes:
>> 
>> Besides the three guys (CHekhov from Star Trek that is Mel Lazarus draws
>> the Momma cartoon) who else, who is famous, is in Mensa?
>
>Don Pedersen (former president of Ford Motor Company), F. Lee Baily, Geena
>Davis, Buckminster Fuller, Wyane Green, Richard Lederer, Sir Clive Sinclair
>(Timex/Sinclair computers), Jean Auel, Adrian Kronaur (SP?) ("Good Morning
>Vietnam") and (I forget his name, but he played Worf's human adoptive
>father on ST: TNG)

And me, of course.

And I'll be appearing at the Laugh Factory in Aurora, Illinois,
Sunday, August 23rd at 8:30pm.

Feel free to drop my name to impress prospective dates.

Thank you.  Thank you.

GMS
From: Dave.Aronson@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Aronson)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
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Subject: Bad Joke
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:34:10 -0500

blayda@acsu.buffalo.edu (Danger) asks:

D> What are the chances of getting Mensa to support The Libertarian Party?

Two, and Slim just left on the noon stagecoach.

From: Dave.Aronson@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Aronson)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
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Subject: Kitchen Dangers
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:25:54 -0500

blayda@acsu.buffalo.edu (Danger) writes:

D> Dave.Aronson@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Aronson) writes:

DA> Not much can be easily done with a wire whisk though,
DA> except maybe to poke an eye with the handle....

DA> Not so!  The wire wisk is easily adapted to multiple pointed wires

Adapted, yes, but not much in the "raw" form, so to speak.

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From: ph@venturi.ama.caltech.edu (Paul Hardy)
Subject: Re: Dorky Yellow Map Pin (was Re: Being ashamed of being in Mensa)
Organization: California Institute of Technology
	<1992Aug8.003322.17212@caeco.mentorg.com>
	<1992Aug8.155836.23464@cbnewse.cb.att.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 01:19:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug8.155836.23464@cbnewse.cb.att.com> gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:

>  It's true that many people are threatened by [intelligence], all the while
>  claiming how unimportant it is.  But if you monitor the media for what
>  passes as the "current mentality", a change is happening.  Pampering self-
>  image, evaluation not based on accomplishments, etc., is losing favor in
>  the public's eyes.  I won't pretend that the media always reflects
>  the majority, but the pendulum is swinging.  

One thing that I think is good for this country, and might help alter the
opinion of Joe American is Japan's USA bashing, talking about how Americans
have become soft, lazy, etc., even if it's not true.  It doesn't matter what
even the top 10% of people in this country feel about the educational system;
if the majority of voting Americans aren't willing to encourage intelligence,
we'll continue as we are.

I have the following Calvin and Hobbes strip on my office door; Calvin and
Hobbes are building a snowman:

     Calvin: See, Hobbes, we shouldn't need accomplishments to feel
             good about ourselves.  Self-esteem shouldn't be conditional.
             That's why I've stopped doing homework.  I don't need to
             learn things to feel good about myself.  I'm fine the way
             I am.

     Hobbes: So the secret to good self-esteem is to lower your
             expectations to the point where they're already met?

     Calvin: Right.  We should take *pride* in our mediocrity.

     Hobbes: Remind me to invest overseas.

     Calvin: [Looking at snowman, which has the bottom and middle finished]
             I think this snowman is good enough, don't you?


				--Paul
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From: rhs@world.std.com (Richard H Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Re: Prejudice against intelligence
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:11:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: world.Bt8KuI.7sz
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

tolman%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Kenneth Tolman) writes:

>  So why is it acceptable to be athletically better than everyone else,
>but not to be more intelligent?  Are people afraid of intelligence?  Is
>there some ancient cultural mystique which surrounds the concept of
>intelligence?  What is the deal?

Yes, people are afraid of intellignece.  Gary Wills wrote an essay, it must
have been at least 12 years ago, which looked at our national political 
candidates and concluded that mediocre intelligence has become almost
a requirement for election to public office.  Look at our candidates today:
Clinton is a Rhodes scholar, but does he show his intellectualism?  Bush
is a Yalie (though I have previously argued that $$$ had a lot to do with
his getting in, he unquestionably was intelligent enough to attend), but
does he exude intelligence?  No, they both downplay their intellignece
because Wills was right.

The point of the essay is that people are afraid of anyone who is markedly
smarter than they are themselves.  They are afraid, amongst other things,
of putting their trust in something they don't understand, or (even worse)
can't understand.  Physical strength is easy to understand... one doesn't
have to have it to see what it can do.  Intellectual strength is a mystery
to many of us who have it (how many times have we seen posted in this
group comments like "I don't know how I got in...", "I don't know how I ever
learned to think...".  It must be more of a mystery to those who are not
or don't think of themselves as intellectually strong.  

-rich
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