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From: crawls@dorsai.com (Charles Rawls)
Subject: Re: UnixWare, Destiny, SVR4.2 -- Is it time yet?
Organization: The Dorsai Embassy +1.718.729.5018
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 00:54:57 GMT

First of all let me preface my answerswith the fact we are a UnixWare Beta
Site, and I am willing to answer any and all questions I can as to UnixWare,

I AM NOT AN EMPLOYEE of UniVell, NOVELL or USL.  Just a very IMPRESSED
end-user.

ilan343@violet.berkeley.edu (Geraldo Veiga) writes:
: i) Does SVR4.2 support > 16M on ISA machines?
: 
	I have not had an ocassion to test this, but I do see referances to
the fact in the docs.

: ii) Can I set up a DOS 5.0 partition on my disk. Univel packages their
: DOS emulator (Windows 3.1 is extra (a lot more)), but is is still
: unclear to me if I can have an independent DOS installed on my disk.
: 

	Yes, or one can use the DRDOS 6.0 that comes with UniVel

: iii) Both of products have a separate package for Motif development,
: but is not clear if the regular X11.5 stuff (libs and includes for 
: Xt, Xaw etc) is included with the standard development package.

	X11 is included in it's full glory.
: 
: iv) The list of supported tape drives does not include the newer 
: high capacity QIC drives.  Is that possible?  As expected, there is no
: direct support for the low end (Colorado and others) drives.
: with the standard development package.

	At this time a few tape drives are supported, I have heard from
Colorado that driver is forth-coming.
: 
: One funny thing about getting information from UNIVEL.  The only way to
: get it is through a fax call-back system.  No ftp, no e-mail, not even
: a bulletin board.  Kind of odd for a market leader in the networking
: field.
: 
	Well, I am trying to get them to provide patches, etc for
dial uucp from my site. That ison an offical basis, I will provide patches,
sources, etc for everything we use on UniVel, at least as long as it is P.D.

	I have in the following week gotten c-news, tin, elm, and pop2 to
compile and install on my test bed.

	If I can Help let me know.

Chas

Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.sysv386
From: dave@pmafire.inel.gov (Dave Remien)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 02:08:29 GMT
Organization: WINCO
Subject: Re: time sync with TCP
Summary: Not in inetd.conf
Distribution: wo
Organization: WINCO
Keywords: xntpd services inted.conf

In article <ByyItA.IwG@gator.rn.com> larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
>pozar@kumr.lns.com (Tim Pozar) writes:
>
>>a program like inetd.  For the later, you would "enable" the program by
>>adding a line for it in inetd.conf.
>
>I did and all appears to be.  xntpd which comes with stock Dell 2.2
>works.  
>

There's no reason to put a daemon type program like xntpd in
/etc/inetd.conf; since the inetd shouldn't be starting it.  We start
xntpd at network boot time, and run it till shutdown.  Inetd is for
starting programs up when requests on a particular port come in from
outside your machine.  Basically, it listens on all the ports defined by
the "services" in inetd.conf, and will fork whatever program you
designate for that port, connected to that socket. 

Ntp does need to be in /etc/services, though, since xntpd gets it's port
info from a text query (getservbyname(3)), rather than having a number
hard coded in the executable.  Lets you debug a new program more easily,
among other things.  

If you were REALLY paranoid, and had a WWV clock, you could run xntp on
your network on a completely different port number, so that it's
extremely unlikely that anyone could declare itself a stratum 1 time
source and screw your network's time up. 

Merry Xmas! Bwah ha ha ho ho!

Dave
-- 
Dave Remien +*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+ WINCO Computer Engineering Group 
  dave@pmafire.inel.gov or rzd@inel.gov      "Dave Barry for President" 
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From: les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: What is lacking in UNIX? (Re: UNIVEL MUST BE KIDDING!!!!!)
Date: 19 Dec 92 00:08:29 GMT
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX

In article <1992Dec18.014048.26507@Celestial.COM> bill@Celestial.COM (Bill Campbell) writes:

>:The ability to stick a floppy in a brand new computer, turn it on, and
>:have it come up running UNIX.

>SCO ODT 2.0 is almost that simple.  Stick in a floppy, stick in
>a tape, answer a few questions about system name, set root
>passsword, wait for tape to finish loading.

Let's suppose that you manage to misconfigure the system such that
it won't boot from the hard disk.  How long does it take to fix
it?   With windows/dos, you just boot from a floppy and twiddle the
config.sys and autoexec.bat files till it works again.  With unix,
you might be able to do this if you have prepared an emegerency
boot disk ahead of time or know how to bail out from the install
disks and know which of several dozen files to modify.

Les Mikesell
  les@chinet.chi.il.us
From: grog@lemis.uucp (Greg Lehey)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r4
Subject: Re: any unix for MCA bus machines?
Date: 20 Dec 92 16:19:30 GMT
Organization: LEMIS, W-6324 Feldatal, Germany

In article <BzEIxn.Kzs@rice.edu> fontenot@ravl.rice.edu (Dwayne Jacques Fontenot) writes:
>IBM has some really attractive deals on their PS/2 Model 77s (DX/2 66).
>Is there any unix (preferably SVR4) that will support an MCA machine?

According to the Univel UnixWare documentation, it will support MCA.
The question is, why do you want to do this? Is the IBM price lower
than EISA? Than ISA? Either (sorry) will give you much more
flexibility than MCA.-- 
Greg Lehey                       | Tel: +49-6637-1488              
LEMIS                            | Fax: +49-6637-1489
Schellnhausen 2, W-6324 Feldatal, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r4
From: les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: What is lacking in UNIX? (Re: UNIVEL MUST BE KIDDING!!!!!)
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 23:46:14 GMT

In article <2406@adagio.lemis.uucp> grog@lemis.uucp (Greg Lehey) writes:

>>Let's suppose that you manage to misconfigure the system such that
>>it won't boot from the hard disk.  How long does it take to fix
>>it?
>
>That depends on the system and what's wrong with it. I just did this
>today with UnixWare. I'm still waiting for the tapes to finish.

Dell has an escape clause that sometimes helps if the problem is
just a bad kernel build.  When you boot up it gives you a few seconds
to hit the space bar and get a prompt for an alternate kernel to
boot.  Unix.old is always the last copy that worked.

Les Mikesell
  les@chinet.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r4
From: ytsai@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (charles.tsai)
Subject: Re: What is lacking in UNIX? (Re: UNIVEL MUST BE KIDDING!!!!!)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:28:03 GMT

In article <68@nearside.UUCP> shwake@nearside.UUCP (Raymond Shwake) writes:
>
>>> Make UNIXWARE $150 and you will see a different story.
>
>Given USL licensing fees, and the current business models driving the UNIX
>vendors, getting to this range is quite unlikely, but if they don't come
>close to it, Microsoft is going to clean their clock. Like "Poor George" Bush
>             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>before the recent election, neither USL nor UniVel yet Get It.
>                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>-- 
>
>uunet!media!ka3ovk!nearside!shwake			shwake@rsxtech

I absolutely agree.

BTW, I admit I'm biased.  I was working for USL on the Destiny.  It is
a shame to see such a good product go nowhere.  When I worked for USL, I
tried my best to convince USL to give schools SUBSTANTIAL discount for her
products but failed.  I also tried to convince people in USL to sell the
fundamental set of Destiny in an affordable price (< $100), using an example
of "drug dealing" which was used by other vendors.  But I still failed.
I don't believe that Destiny will get a small piece of market from NT if
USL maintains the same policy. (Sigh!)  BTW, I am very surprised to find
out UNIVEL is so incompetent in marketing UnixWare!!! (Sigh again!)

Could someone in USL pass this message to Roel?  (Don't deny.  I know you
guys are watching closely on this net group.  8-)


-- Charles Tsai  att!keeper!ytsai
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.unix.sysv386
From: Steinar.Haug@delab.sintef.no (Steinar Haug)
Subject: Re: BSD ftpd doesn't work?
Organization: SINTEF DELAB, Trondheim, Norway.
	<1992Dec18.122912.12568@titan.inmos.co.uk> <BzGJ6A.98r@news.rn.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 14:20:39 GMT

larry@news.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
> How do these large anonymous ftp sites support all these files under
> anonymous ftp?
> 
> I have files on 4 differenet filesystems, I'm open for ideas on how
> to set them all up under /home/ftp/pub.

On a Sun you can do it with the loopback filesystem type (lofs).

Steinar Haug, system/networks administrator
SINTEF DELAB, University of Trondheim, NORWAY
Email: Steinar.Haug@delab.sintef.no, 
	sthaug@idt.unit.no, steinar@tosca.er.sintef.no
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.sysv386,misc.books.technical
From: ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ryerson.schwark)
Subject: Re: SVR4 [34]86 processor ABI book required
Organization: UNIX System Laboratories, Summit, NJ
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:20:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.165641.9875@mfltd.co.uk> jfid@mfltd.co.uk (James Fidell (x5320)) writes:
>
>I have the Sparc supplement to the SVR4 ABI (giving coding examples etc. for
>the ABI book from the SVID).
>
>Is there a similar book for the i[34]86 processor, and can someone tell me
>it's ISBN, please ?

ISBN 0-13-877689-X


Ry Schwark
ry@usl.com
From: ak751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Saltzman)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r3
Subject: what happened to all the SCO unix postings?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 22:11:43 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ak751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Saltzman)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu

Since the comp.unix hierarchy reorganization, I have not been able to
find any SCO unix postings.  Is this the wrong group?
thanks,
-mark

Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r3
From: larry@news.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: what happened to all the SCO unix postings?
Organization: Gator Communications - Feeds-R-Us 219-289-3745 
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:10:05 GMT

ak751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Saltzman) writes:

>Since the comp.unix hierarchy reorganization, I have not been able to
>find any SCO unix postings.  Is this the wrong group?

have you tried the biz.sco.* newsgroups?


-- 
Larry Snyder                                    internet: larry@gator.rn.com
keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r3,comp.sys.novell,comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva)
Subject: FTPD core dumping
Organization: Ferranti International Controls Corporation
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:58:20 GMT

We're running Racal Interlan TCP/IP (NP622A V3.0) on Intel Unix System V.3.2.2 
and Novell Lan Workplace (V 4.0 Rel A) on Dos 5.0. When FTPing from the DOS
system to the UNIX box, the transfer sees to bog down (either ftpd is ignoring
ACK PSH or DOS ftp is ignoring the response), and eventually after a couple
of slow file transfers you get one that takes forever. Finally ftpd core
dumps after completing the transaction (ftp reports success) but before
completing the write to the output file.

With the older version of NP622A (V2.1) OR the previous version of Lan
Workplace (V 3.5 Rel B) there are no problems. With the newer versions we
get these problems in varying levels of severity on two separate UNIX
boxes and two separate DOS boxes. In addition, the problems have only
recently become noticable (previously, there was some slowdown but no
crashes or incomplete files) though there have been no changes to the
systems that we are aware of, and the problems persist in an isolated
LAN segment.

Going back to the earlier version of Lan Workplace is being evaluated,
but we can't get that version for the rest of the PCs. It's not practical
at this time to take the UNIX box down and regress it.

Any suggestions?
-- 
Peter da Silva                                            `-_-'
Ferranti International Controls Corporation                'U` 
Sugar Land, TX  77487-5012 USA
+1 713 274 5180                            "Zure otsoa besarkatu al duzu gaur?"
Xref: sparky comp.unix.sys5.r3:149 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:846
From: shwake@nearside.UUCP (Raymond Shwake)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r3,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
Subject: Re: What's happening to ISC UNIX?
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:49:32 GMT
Followup-To: comp.unix.sys5.r3
Organization: A/C International

shaw@feanor.xel.com (Greg Shaw) writes:

>I've been reading the sun admin groups lately.  SunOS 4.1 generally ships
>with a 2-user license, but, it does not ENFORCE the license.  If this is
>what Solaris will do, then a SINGLE USER version will be the same as the
>unlimited user version.  

	Bear in mind that, just because they may not enforce it at some
	time they will not later change their mind. Some versions of 
	UN*X for 386/486 from USL and ATT are sold as two-user license
	environments, but either don't enforce those limits or actually
	support (and enforce) a larger number (sixteen was the basic
	license under SVr3.2). USL's most recent SVr4.2, however, does
	*strictly* enforce a two login limitation, even if coming through
	different channels (console, async port, network).
-- 

uunet!media!ka3ovk!nearside!shwake			shwake@rsxtech
From: netlink@frmug.fr.mugnet.org (Eric Feillant)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r3
Subject: NOGETTY PROGRAMM - execute cmd from inittab without login and pw.
Keywords: nogetty
Date: 14 Dec 92 11:51:29 GMT
Organization: Minix User Group France

i took in usenet news a source unix programm whose call "nogetty"
this programm can execute a cmd from inittab and was wrote for
SCO systems and all others Sys V r3.2 unixes.
In /etc/inittab, it looks like that:
t100:23:respawn:/etc/nogetty USERNAME CMD arg...
ex:
t100:23:respawn:/etc/nogetty guest /bin/sh
-> to execute a bourne shell with user id 'guest'.
If it works fine on SCO Systems, i got troubles to run it with
Interactive sys Vr3.2 system.When i run it it tells me:
-c: -c: cannot open
i don't know why it tells me it.
Anyway, if somebody can help me, it would be great, perhaps do u have
one patch for it ? Or does anyone of u wrote such a programm ?

Thanx to answer me.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r3,comp.unix.sysv386
From: karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger)
Subject: Re: What's happening to ISC UNIX?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:15:50 GMT
Organization: MCSNet, Chicago, IL

In article <Bz23FF.B8y@feanor.xel.com> shaw@feanor.xel.com (Greg Shaw) writes:
>Gerry Swetsky (lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us) wrote:
>: In article <ByuJ24.F6A@maxed.amg.com> ed@maxed.amg.com (Ed Whittemore) writes:
>: >In article <1992Dec6.044637.13901@fasttech.com> zeke@fasttech.com (Bohdan Tashchuk) writes:
>: >
>: >>>Interactive/SunSoft 3.0 is available now and will allow you to
>: >>>upgrade to Solaris 2.0 for $195 just for having it.
>: >
>: >This is true.
>: 
>:     For a SINGLE USER version!
>
>I've been reading the sun admin groups lately.  SunOS 4.1 generally ships
>with a 2-user license, but, it does not ENFORCE the license.  If this is
>what Solaris will do, then a SINGLE USER version will be the same as the
>unlimited user version.  
>
>I'm just hypothesizing, so don't take my word as gospel.

Don't bet on it.

The Solaris 2.x version DOES include a metering package which SunSoft uses
for their compiler sales. 

I wouldn't be surprised to see that they have inserted hooks to this in
other areas of the OS.  No idea if they really have (I haven't tried Solaris
2.x on a Sun yet, I'm waiting for 2.1) but the capability IS there.

--
Karl Denninger (karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM, <well-connected>!ddsw1!karl)
Data Line: [+1 312 248-0900] Anon. arch. (nuucp) 00:00-06:00 C[SD]T
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 13:34:46 MST
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: $stevee@sasb.byu.edu (Stephen Eldredge)
Subject: Re: system login limit fixed was: "Help!!  "Attempt to exceed system login limit"

>
>Attemp to exceed system login limit on ttyp1  (or sometimes ttyp2)
>
>Still being in my first few months of unix.admindom  I am at a loss.
>
>Thanks for any help!!
>
>Steve Eldredge
>

Thanks for all the help on this topic.  Most of the 
responses were that I have the 1-2 version rinning 
instead of the 3+ user version running.  In fact this 
is true.  The WHY of the matter is good info to know 
for those of you upgrading the system.  Turns out that 
when the previous admin.person upgraded the SERVER 
software he entered the serial number and activation 
key of the old 2 user version thus branding the SERVER 
version as 2 user instead of the multiuser system that 
it really is.  The solution after talking to SCO Support is 
to reinstall using the upgrade option again this time 
entering the SERVER serial number and activation key.

Important Installation Tip:

Use the latest serial number and Activation Key code!!

Again thanks,


Steve Eldredge

			
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.dcom.lans.misc
From: lam@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Lam)
Subject: Re: How to network 3-4 home machines cheaply?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 01:54:31 GMT

witr@rwwa.COM (Robert Withrow) writes:

>In article <Bz3w55.52o@zoo.toronto.edu>,
> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:

>| In general, the best way to network small numbers of machines, all in one
>| room, under controlled conditions so cable wear and tear is not an issue,
>| is either a multiport transceiver with a null Ethernet (thinnet tee with
>| a terminator on each branch -- some multiports have such a setup built
>| in and accessible via a switch) or transceivers with thin coax.

>Assuming PC bus machines, I don't understand why one doesn't just use
>typical thinwire-ready boards like WD/SMC/CLONES.  In the non-prime-time
>environment the original poster was discussing, I doubt you can get a 
>cheaper network.

>There are sub-$100 WD-ether clones available (Don't ask me where, I don't
>use-em), and the cabing can either be a RAD-SHACK item or you can get
>so-called ``lantastic'' cable for cheaps.  The wiring is more of a
>hassle than with MP-repeaters, but hey, this is a home setup, right?

>If you scrounge, the last two items should cost almost nothing...

Why scrounge?  Unless misc.forsale.computers is scrounging! :)
Most of the networks that I work with are twisted pair(10BT), but I have
at home a thin(cheap)net network.  I picked up genuine wd8003(8 bit cards)
for $25 bucks a piece with disks and manuals(something which normally doesn't
manage to come in a used deal).  So I have a UNIX machine and 2 PCs networks.
Naturally, I'm SLIPped into the Internet( sorta have my own subnet).

Just post to misc.forsale(.computers/.computers.pc-clones) and you'll 
probably get a couple of responses because many networks are moving to 10BT
because of ease of maintnance in large networks.  
--
Ken Lam                                                     (803)-884-7615 (H)
System Administrator                                        (803)-792-4969 (W)
Senior Systems Consultant                                   (803)-792-5446(FAX)
Netware/UNIX System Programmer/Integrator                    lam@jove.cofc.edu
MultiMedia Works & Video Productions ======= Teaching the world in better ways

Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc
From: jhull@vulcan-gw.den.mmc.com (Jeff Hull)
Subject: ISO data retrieval from RK-07 & RK-05 disk drive
Reply-To: jhull@vulcan-gw.den.mmc.com
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics Group
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:11:12 GMT




Please help me if you can, gentle folk.

I need to retrieve data from an RK-07 disk pack that was written with UNIX version 7
and three RK-05 disk packs that were written with either UNIX
version 6 or version 7 and I do not have access to a machine with either
drive.

Does anyone out there have the ability to read these disks?

adTHANKSvance.

Jeff Hull
jhull@thor.den.mmc.com
jhull@vulcan-gw.den.mmc.com


Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.dcom.lans.misc
From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: How to network 3-4 home machines cheaply?
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 05:11:45 GMT
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology

In article <1992Dec12.181452.6435@rwwa.COM> witr@rwwa.com writes:
>| In general, the best way to network small numbers of machines, all in one
>| room, under controlled conditions so cable wear and tear is not an issue,
>| is either a multiport transceiver with a null Ethernet (thinnet tee with
>| a terminator on each branch -- some multiports have such a setup built
>| in and accessible via a switch) or transceivers with thin coax.
>
>Assuming PC bus machines, I don't understand why one doesn't just use
>typical thinwire-ready boards like WD/SMC/CLONES...

Those boards just have the transceivers built in; the same comments apply.
I didn't elaborate along those lines because the original poster's hardware
wasn't along those lines.
-- 
"God willing... we shall return."       | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
       -Gene Cernan, the Moon, Dec 1972 |  henry@zoo.toronto.edu  utzoo!henry
From: eseeger@ssdc.UUCP (Eric Seeger)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Info on using nslookup
Date: 16 Dec 92 15:46:33 GMT
Organization: Sterling Software IMD, Vienna, Va.

HEEEEELP !!

We here at Sterling have just gained access to Internet with a connection
though the Alternet service that UUNET offers.  I was told that getting
around the net and finding out host address would be made easier if we
use nslookup to query name server hosts and work on creating a local 
name server file.  Well after looking at the man pages and info in the 
admin manual, I'm kind of lost as to how this really works.  I would 
appreciate it if someone could tell me in better terms how this is suppose
to work or if there are better ways to get info on hosts (ftp, archive, 
etc...) on the Internet network.

Thanks in advance...
From: paul@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Best method for filesystem copy?
Date: 17 Dec 92 08:57:46 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

In article <ericw.724458671@hobbes>, ericw@hobbes.amd.com (Eric Wedaa) writes:
> markb@news.gsfc.nasa.gov (Mark R. Baith) writes:
> 
> >I need to copy a filesystem currently housed on a 1 Gb disk to a 2 Gb
> >disk.  dump seemed like a good idea, but the procedure kept asking for
> 
> Well, Considering that I do this sort of stuff every week (Or so it 
> seems...) here's what I do...
> 
> cd from_dir
> tar -cf - |(cd target_dir; tar -xfBp -)
> 
> or...
> 
> rsh from_machine
> cd from_dir
> tar -cf - |rsh target_machine "(cd target_dir; tar -xfBp -)"
> 
> Their are two things to remember though:
> 1) core files grow because of tar  (They are "holey" files.)
> 2) device files/pipes do not get copied.

Take a look at Elizabeth Zwicky's paper on "torture-testing backup programs"
from the LISA V conference. This looks at a whole range of backup programs
and compares the performance of programs like tar, cpio & dump when handling
things like sparse files.

I also have a program called "lfu" which (among other things) attempts to
make faithful copies of directory hierarchies. Some documents describing
this (and the code) are in pub/lfu on ftp.dcs.ed.ac.uk

	Paul

-- 
Paul Anderson                      email: paul@dcs.ed.ac.uk
LFCS, Dept. of Computer Science
University of Edinburgh            phone: (+44) (0)31-650-5193
Edinburgh EH9 3JZ, UK.             fax:   (+44) (0)31-667-7209
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin