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From: EEC@PORTIA.UMDS.LON.AC.UK (Steve P eec@portia.umds.lon.ac.uk)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Malcom McDowell's films (was RE: CLOCKWORK ORANGE)
Date: 6 Oct 1992 05:00:06 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

> From: jes2x@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (John Sommerville)
> Subject: Re: A CLOCKWORK ORANGE
> 
> Does anybody know anything about Malcolm McDowell's first film  (bit part)
> called "Poor Cow"?  Being a big fan, I must find it.

Yes, I've seen it.  It's an early seventies British film starring Carol
White and (I think) Terence Stamp.  Directed (I think) by Ken Loach
who was very famous at the time for what were called "kitchen sink" 
dramas.  Most of his films of this time were based on television plays
from the sixties.  (I can't say I remember Malcolm McDowell in it though
and anyway, wasn't "If..." earlier than this ?)

It's been on TV here a few times.  Last time would have been about 2 years
ago.  I've checked and it isn't available on home video, I'm afraid, at
least not in the UK.

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From: hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (DOG BASEBALL!!!)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Chocolate Nazi-cles
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:20:33 GMT
Organization: Ministry of Information, Lower Volta.


	how about (for a modern twist): 

	Skokie (neo-nazis march on Skokie Ill.)
	Surf Nazis Must Die 


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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: alan@hal.larc.nasa.gov (alan dare)
Subject: Bladerunner music
Originator: alan@hal.larc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:20:27 GMT


I remember when bladerunner first came out the score and album was
done by Vangelis(sp?). I didn't buy it then and that was a mistake. I have
looked for it in five music shops with no luck. There is a version that
is orchestrated from the Vangelis music, but not one that is by Vangelis.
I had them look in their book but I was told it was not avaiable.
Does anyone have info on this?

Thanks
-- 

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Alan Dare                     |  Internet : alan@hal.larc.nasa.gov
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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: smith@panther.adelphi.edu (Jim Smith)
Subject: Film Source Quest
Summary: Where can I get these?
Organization: Adelphi University Swirbul Library
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:09:19 GMT

Dear Film Net Folk,

I'm looking for a source for these four films related to war/history:

"Rosemary."  German, 1958. Director: Rolf Thiele
"Room at the Top."  British, 1959.  Director: Jack Clayton
"Gods of the Plague."  German, 1969. Director: R.W. Fassbinder
"After the War."  By Fredric Raphael.

Any suggestions you could give me for locating them would be greatly 
appreciated!  Email to: smith1.franklin@panther.adelphi.edu

Thank You.
Jim.
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: BR replicant identification.
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:35:02 GMT
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

Yes, but don't forget these are the genetic engineers who created the
replicants, the replicants are their 'babies', so it shouldn't take them
very long to recognize their own creations whereas the cops would have
to rely on VK. The engineers are probably PhDs, very bright and specialists,
whereas the cops are not as highly educated and have more general knowledge.

Besides, I seem to recall Chew clues in to them being replicants only
when Leon sticks his hand into a jar of liquid nitrogen and is none the
worse for wear. Pris stays with J.F. overnight, but it is only when Roy
shows up that J.F. figures out they are replicants. My point is it does
take them time to recognize their own handiwork.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: g91v3505@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR S VAN ONSELEN)
Subject: Request : That post on The Lost Boys
Keywords: Lost Boys
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 07:30:11 GMT

Sorry, but could I see that post on "Ways to Recognize a Vampire" by 
Benjamin Pierce (Repost or private post, whatever tickles your fancy, 
please.) I seem to have missed it, and only saw a reply to the original 
article. (Could it have been lost amid the almost-literal TONS of Blade-
Runner posts?)

It looked as if it was ironic and a little derogatory to The Lost Boys. I 
saw the movie, thought it held promise, but couldn't quite figure out what 
it was that was bugging me about it.

No, it wasn't the subsonic recordings of slaughter-house sounds. It was just 
that the movie was BAAAD. Once I worked this out, I was happier.

Stuart van Onselen
Rhodes University
South Africa <--- Yes, THAT place.
From: sprooney@unix1.tcd.ie (Simon Rooney)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: The ultimate movie.
Summary: melt
Keywords: Melt
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:29:27 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin


WOW! I am impressed.
I just saw the most amazing vid I've ever seen. I have never before
seen its likes. I was astounded at how the subtle intricracies of
the plot were superbly contrasted by the masterful camerawork and
complex soundtrack.

		STREET TRASH
		 -It melts-

Fall to your knees and praise it.

ISOnm
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: pete@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Peter Alexander Merel)
Subject: Re: Deckard as 6th Replicant doesn't hold water
Organization: AOTC - CSSC
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 07:05:03 GMT

shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
>they wouldn't send out
>a replicant of 'lesser' strength and intelligence to go after ones of
>greater strength and intelligence, yet if Deckard is Nexus 6, why does
>he not match the others in strength? 

Two possibilities have been raised so far:

. It would be easier to control a weak and/or stupid replicant - if he were
killed, well, there'd be plenty more where he came from. If there were 
enough of them then they'd do their job by sheer weight of numbers.

. Deckard may have been an experiment, the purpose being to test
the memory implant technology. If that were so then there need be no 
replicant squads of blade runners, just one fellow. If Deckard is a 
psychological experiment then there's no reason to make him superstrong,
and every reason to keep him weak and controllable. Or it may just have
been implantation of Holden's memories that reduced his motor coordination
to human levels.

>Clearly Deckard cannot possibly be Nexus 6 - he doesn't match up
>physically even with the 'basic pleasure model'. If he is not Nexus 6,
>ie. an earlier model, then he is inferior in strngth and intelligence 
>to Nexus 6 and he shouldn't so closely resemble a human. 

Rachel is explicitly referred to as nexus 6, and she appears as human or
more human than Deckard. She certainly doesn't appear to be superstrong.
This supports the idea that memory implants reduce apparent strength.

>Logically speaking, based on the info given, Deckard is human.
>He cannot be a replicant.

Given the above, that doesn't seem to follow.

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Theftright Peter A. Merel (T) 1992. Rights to all replies, followups, originals,
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From: peterme@ocf.berkeley.edu (Peter Merholz)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Darkman
Date: 5 Oct 1992 17:12:40 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: earthquake.berkeley.edu

In article <gunnarh.181.718296035@dhhalden.no> gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO) writes:
>I just saw Darkman. I thought it was great, a friend of mine hated it and 
>told me to pst on the subject here to see what you think of it. And so I did.
>The thread is yours.

Well, I guess it was stupid fun, though I can't say I really liked it. In
terms of reality check there were a few problems: How do you survive an
explosion that throws you hundreds of yards? How can you make bilabial
sounds with no lips? And, worst of all, how did the woman latch on to the
bar with the handcuffs after she's falling, unless the bar passed through
her body without hitting any molecules, only to be stopped by the more solid
metal??

--Peter M.
From: bill@bohemia.metronet.org (Bill Dixon)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: OK.....Hold it!
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:48:30 GMT
Organization: Bohemia BBS System

gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO) writes:


>I've heard a lot of talk here about "MST3K". What the hell is it? I even 
>think I spotted an alt.fan.mst3k here.

[.sig deleted]

	Just learned this onr myself, from actually seeing the show for the first time.
	"MST3K" is "Mystery Science Theatre 3000", generally found somewhere on your cable box.
	Each episode is an old SF epic, usually of dubious merit which is used as backdrop
	for Joel Hodgson and two robot-like puppets. Joel and Co. are seen as shadows in chairs in 
	in front of the film, and heckle/rip the film for it's duration. The humor is actually 
	fairly good and at a fairly widespread level. Running jokes can be hilarious (sometimes).



				Joe Bob says "check it out"
					-bill
From: rkim@OPUS.CALSTATELA.EDU ("Richard H.S. Kim")
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Battlestar Galactica movie?
Date: 26 Sep 92 05:20:52 GMT

Speaking of John Colicos, does anyone know what's happened to him?
I believe he co-starred in the TV show The Desert Rats, or something like
that....

There was a interview with him in Starlog (sorry, forgot issue and date) and
it had some rather amusing bits about his work in Battlestar Galactica.
Such as how they filmed his beheading in the original pilot, but a couple of
episodes later, reshot the execution BUT changing it so that Baltar lives and
carries out the will of the Cylon leader to pursue them across the galaxy. :)

Colicos also mentioned how he realized that a lack of a strong, willful
antagonist was boring the show, so he really hyped-up his maniacal character
for effect.  He complained about his white costume (bedsheets!?) and had
that changed to a dark one, with matching boots and cloak.

Now that I think about it, he was definately one of the highlights of that
show.  Oh well.

Rich K.
email/internet> rkim@opus.calstatela.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: AH.PBL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark)
Subject: Karen Carpenter Film
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: net
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:57:06 GMT


  Would anyone out there in net.land have a video VHS copy
of a film about Karen Carpenter in which Barbie dolls were
used to portray her?  I'm not sure about the title, but it
was made a few years ago and her family (apparently) didn't
think very much of it and took legal action to stop it's
distribution.

Has anyone seen this?  Does anyone know where I could get
a copy?

E-MAIL response, please!

-- Mark

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Alien^3 Sequels
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:34:59 GMT

>
>I've always wanted them to do an 'R' rated Star Trek. Not sex, but a little
>more realistic language when in a pinch. 
>'Scotty, get us the @#$% out of here!'.
>
it was already done ... u know the trek that didnt exist ..
 STAR TREK 5
where unheard of profanity was done .. and to tell u the truth ... it shocked me..
i mean in some movies its needed ... but u r talking about a series that was on tv.
and not once was profanity .. and hearing it from McCoy was strange and it didnt fit..
hearing language from any of the,m in those specific roles .. just didnt fit ..
and i dont want it ..
now if ST:NG hits the big screen maybe .. 
but as far as the old timers ... it doesnt fit.


 Steve C.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: med50003@nusunix1.nus.sg (WANSAICHEONG KHIN-LIN)
Subject: Re: Fandango
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:51:29 GMT

It wasn't Emilio Estevez in the movie. It was his brother, Charlie
Sheen. It is basically about growing up and taking on adult
responsibilty and having that one last fling. I kinda enjoyed it but
someone should tell Kevin Costner he doesn't dance very well. (See Bull
Durham).

gervais

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim))
Subject: Re: Alien^3 Sequels
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 23:43:32 GMT

In article <mumble> scharf@lrs.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (Ron Scharf) writes:

>During my last visit in the United States (September), I've seen an Alien
>book *not* written by A. D. Foster and *not* featuring Ripley & Co.
>(sorry, can't tell the author nor the title)
>I haven't read this book and don't know anything about the story, but as there
>are now alien stories w/o any Nostromo crew member, maybe there will be also
>films based on these?
>Anyone who knows this book and can tell me the story?

That sounds like the novelization of the Dark Horse Comics Alien mini-
series; I believe its called "Earth Hive" and, sure enough, involves
the aliens on Earth.  I think an adult Newt is one of the main
characters but I don't remember if any of the other movie characters
are involved.



-- 
Kansas Jim (Jim Ogle, TORG guru)                               /|
jogle@aoc.nrao.edu (NRAO-VLBA, Socorro New Mexico)           o| |-
"I'd be apathetic if I cared."                              /|\\|
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: mvburke@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (mary virginia burke)
Subject: Re: The Stuff
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 04:01:44 GMT

In <1992Sep30.081146.896@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@shamu.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:

>In article <92273.180730JMC159@psuvm.psu.edu> <JMC159@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>Has anyone out there ever seen a movie called "The Stuff"?  It is about a white
>>yogurt like dessert which controls your mind and eats at you from the inside
>>out.

>I wouldn't all it horror, but I don't know what you would call it. I thought
>it was very entertaining satire at the least. From the mind of Larry Cohen,
>better known for his "It's Alive" movies. I liked this better, almost as
>much as I liked his incredible masterpiece, "God Told Me To".
>I would say that the film is more a look (admittedly a cursory and comedic
>look) at the way the FDA works. The Stuff is proved to be dangerous,
>but because it was so popular, they release a new product containing
>only 15% Stuff. That rings so true it is scary! 
>Cohen is quite the little maverick. anyone see "Return To Salems Lot",
>"Island Of The Alive", "Black Caesar", "The Private Life of J. Edgar
>Hoover" or any of his other work? 

I've seen the "Alive" movies (which accord pretty well with my attitude toward
infants, by the way), also _The Stuff_, also _Q_, which is a rather curious 
flick about Quetzalcoatl (the winged serpent god, that is) taking up residence
atop a skyscraper and biting the heads off various unfortunate people.
Michael Moriarty is in this one as well, playing a complete loser who finds out
where the serpent is roosting, and hopes to use the knowledge to make a buck.
Not an unqualified success, but reasonably entertaining.  I liked _The Stuff_
much better (and I still eye my yogurt with suspicion).

Wasn't Cohen also involved in the _Maniac Cop_ movies, or am I thinking of 
someone else? 

MVB
"This proves that, if babies are innocent, it is not from lack of will to do
harm, but from lack of strength."--St. Augustine
From: donnell@barnacle.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: OK.....Hold it
Date: 2 Oct 92 01:19:54 GMT
Organization: none

In article <1992Oct01.214436.4715@bnr.ca> labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche) writes:
>MST3K is 'mystery science theater 3000'.  It is a show on 'Comedy Central'
>which is a 24 hour comedy channel here in the states.  MST3K shows older
>'cheesy' movies but in the foreground of the picture this guy sits in
>what looks like a silhouette of the chairs in a movie theater with a
>couple of 'alleged' robots(designed for comic appeal).  This guy along with
>the robots make fun of the cheesy film which they are playing.
>I don't watch much of this show myself but I know several people who
>swear it's the best invention since 'insert favorite reason to live here'.
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Maurice LaBiche (Mo.L.)         |   labiche@bnr.ca
>Bell Northern Research          |   Part of Northern Telecom 
>Richardson, Texas               |   i'm really in Texas
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>

I think I am one of those people. I love movies of all kinds. but with
MST3K, you aren't watching a movie. You are watching a synergistic comedy
show. The combination of smartass remarks and bad movies can be quite
effective. Tom Servo, Crow T. Robot, Gypsy, Cambot, Joel, and the rest
are like old friends to me after all these years. <I was watching it as a
local program, before it was on cable>. I get a beer, and make bad jokes
with some old friends. It's cathartic! 

<And they are funny. Just try to sit through some of their songs. "He Tried
to Kill Me With A Forklift" is a scream. And "Slow the Plot Down" is amazing!
Not to mention "Master Ninja Theme song"!. It's an addiction!>

					--Judex--
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame)
Subject: Re: Winnie the Pooh as 6th Replicant doesn't hold water
Keywords: Huh?
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Distribution: alt.cult-movies, rec.arts.movies
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 23:12:31 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.192432.27681@ucselx.sdsu.edu> maxc1104@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Generic Account 1104) writes:
>
>  Psyche!!
>

I suddenly have this insane vision of Roy Batty chasing Deckard through
the apartment building in the final scenes singing, "The Wonderful Thing
About Tiggers" . . . heheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheeeeeeeee . .
. 

		-- Stewart "and I'm the only one" Tame

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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: donnell@orca.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: OutLand
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:58:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.073521.7980@news.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE> k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (ce) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.155825.21945@shearson.com> scarrobi@shearson.com writes:
>>I think this was one of the best space -cowboy pictures around ... 
>			          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Are there others?!!! :)
>
>>i live in brooklyn,ny...
>>does anyone know where i can rent it ..
>>i have seen it countles times but always wanted to add it to my library...
>>unfortunatelty it seeems to have disappeared from the shelves .. i go into vid stores and nothing ... 
>>i would appreciate any feed back ... 
>>
>You can order it from Movies Unlimited (800)523-0823
>
>>  Steve C.
>>
>>P.S. how did you like it as a movie ?
>>
>Don't get me started on Peter Hyams, or MovieSlayer as I like to call him!  
>
>All IMHO naturally
>
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There are other "Space-Cowboy" pictures, but they are even worse than
Outland. Try "Moon Zero Two" sometime! 
As for Peter Hyams, I am amazed at his insistence on making SF films with
little or NO Science Fiction! "Outland" is a mediocre remake of "HIgh
Noon", with very little SF, except scenery.
"Capricorn One" tries to be speculative, but it is really just a car chase
film, despite the extremely mild SF trappings.
"2010" is probably his best, but his retreads of Kubricks visual style are
tiresome, and he really isn't that good a director. "2010" was good source
material, and that gives it what quality it has.
<All IMHO>
<Of course!>

					--Judex--
From: dug@athena.cs.uga.edu (Douglas Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Censoring Stuff that offends Don Wildmon (was Re: I Was A Teenage Sex Mutant)
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:40:50 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Sep30.142659.13283@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> econrad@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Eric V Conrad) writes:
>In article <20692@plains.NoDak.edu> dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry) writes:
>>For what little it's worth, you can see the whole cheerleader scene on
>>the video, although you may have to look for it under the name of Dr. Alien.
>>USA UaN, of course, edits all the "non-TV" parts out of their films...
>
>Occasionally they goof.  A couple of weeks ago, there were a few pleasant
>seconds when Mary Woronov's shapely backside graced viewers of USA in
>"Eating Raoul".  Unfortunately, someone must have rudely interrupted the
>technician's slumber because it got filtered after a few seconds.
>I feel especially honored to have been present for this historic moment
>as I was just channel flipping at the time.  I normally avoid USA
>because they generally cut a film to shreds.
>
Ahhhh...

But does anyone remember years ago when USA was just starting out and they
were a premium channel who refused to edit any of their "Late Night" films.
At that time, more nudity/profanity passed on USA than on HBO.


>--Eric
>-- 
>There are two kinds of people:
>	1) Those who classify people into two kinds; and
>	2) Those who don't.