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From: picasso@bass.bu.edu (David Ondzes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Computer Baseball Games (Hardball 3)
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:02:50 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Organization: Wizard on Oz



Greetings fantasy Baseball players,

	I was wondering how many of you play or own Hardball 3, by Accolade ?
I know is more of an "arcade" type game then a stats game. I enjoy HB3
alot, but I missed the stats part about. So I wrote a program that will
calculate the top 10 leaders in all the major catergories, ie Homeruns,
RBIs, era, etc. My friends and I find that this only adds the enjoyment
we get from playying HB3. If you are interest in getting a free copy
of my program just let me know. I am going on vacation saturday, so try
to email before then.

David
picasso@bass.bu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
From: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Subject: Re: Status of Brian Harvey, anyone?
Reply-To: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 18:46:18 GMT


In a previous article, bobhurt@carson.u.washington.edu (Bob Hurt) says:

>In this weeks USA Today Baseball Weekly, Brian Harvey is not listed
>on the Angel's DL, nor is he listed in the team stats area.  As far
>as I can tell, he isn't mentioned anywhere.

If he's not listed on the USA Today DL list it's a mistake.  He's about
to go under the knife and is gone for the season.  Keep Grahe.

-- 
===============Joel Tscherne:  ac985@cleveland.freenet.edu===============
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
From: 11dmcvay@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Daniel T. McVay)
Subject: Re: PTP (ongoing discussion on this game)
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:09:20 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.051602.18891@terminator.cc.umich.edu>, rdunkle@engin.umich.edu (R. M. Dunkle) writes:
> 
> 
> 	1. 1991 player disk is included in the price

Good. 
> 	2. You can enter stats and create players from whatever year you
> want, make them up, or whatever. The player creation sub-program lets you
> choose from several popular formats when inputting - Sporting News, Elias,
> etc. Player disks each year are $19.95 or $24.95 or something like that, or
> you can enter everything yourself.

Not bad. Now I can actually keep up with everything by newspaper when the end
of the year comes around.

> 	3. The draft facility lets you draft out of all of the available
> "free agents" (not on a team), and lets you show them grouped by position,
> ranked by any of a number of statistics, alphabetically, whatever.

Same as EWBII.

> 
> 	My question for you is, what are you going to do once you have the 
> teams? Play them against each other? If so, good, but that has nothing to
> do with Rotisserie baseball, really. 

That's right. I'm going to play them against each other. Sort of like 
"simulation". I was informed through the EMAIL that "simulation" is the
correct term when you use historical stats from that year and use it to 
create accummulated stats, and many more.

Question : Can it create schedules and follow those? And does it accumlate
stats over the course of an year?

Thanks. 

Daniel Mcvay	11dmcvay@gallua.gallaudet.edu	11dmcvay@gallux.gallaudet.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
From: larrow@novell.com (Les Arrow)
Subject: e-mail fantasy league
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:52:46 GMT

I have decided to start up an e-mail fantasy league. Although, the exact
rules and methods of play are still being worked on, I am now looking
for people who are interested in owning a team.

The more people who generate a real interest, the more leagues that will
be generated.

Please send me e-mail instead of posting to the net. I will respond with more
information as well as a short application I will request you fill out. The
application will simply be a few things I'll need to know in order to get
things coordinated.

I'm looking forward to hearing from you.

--Les
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
From: rdunkle@engin.umich.edu (R. M. Dunkle)
Subject: Re: PTP (ongoing discussion on this game)
Organization: Campus Computing Sites, University of Michigan
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 01:03:15 GMT



	- PTP PC Baseball (the official title) is for IBM and compatibles

	- It does accumulate stats throughout a season, and at any point
during a game you can see a player's "real", season (simulation), and game
stats. The main game screen (where the plays happen) shows the player
who's at bat's "real" and season stats, in a short form. And, of course, 
there's the "Reports" feature, which lets you show leaders in many many 
categories, plus team-by-team stats, either for "real" or season stats.

	- Version 4.0 includes a scheduling feature, which allows you to
play from a schedule, have the computer play the games for the non-human-
controlled teams, etc. The game comes with 1991's AL and NL schedules, but
doesn't have a facility for automatically generating schedules. It has 
a feature which lets you put one together via menu, choosing date, teams, 
and number of games for each series. 
	I imagine the next version will have an auto0schedule generator.
	I've been meaning to write a quick C program to make schedules, but
haven't gotten around to it. They're stored as text files, so they aren't
hard to make.
-- 
	Brian A. Dunkle               |          "Dig Zebrox!"
	rdunkle@aal.itd.umich.edu <---|--->    bad@emunix.emich.edu
	------------------------------|----------------------------
        <I wish I knew some cool pro-bicycling tag-lines, but.....>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
From: eric@eedsp.gatech.edu (Eric Hyche)
Subject: Owen vs. Webster - which should I keep?
Originator: eric@markov.eedsp.gatech.edu
Organization: Georgia Inst. of Tech - DSP - Atlanta, Ga
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:46:12 GMT

When Spike Owen went on the DL a few weeks back, I replaced
him with another SS, then moved a few people around, and eventually
now have to choose between bringing him back and waiving Mitch Webster
or waiving Owen and keeping Webster. Webster's salary for next year 
would be the automatic $10 while Owen's is $1. Both are in the
first year of their contracts (new league).

I heard that Owen may be on the way out in Montreal and that
he becomes a free agent at the end of the year. Can any
Expos or Dodger fans make their case for me? Who should I
keep? I have to decide by next Tuesday, August 25.

Eric Hyche
eric@eedsp.gatech.edu



-- 
Eric Hyche
Georgia Tech, School of Electrical Engineering, Atlanta, GA  30332
INTERNET: eric@eedsp.gatech.edu
From: hasch@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Bruce M Hasch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Keith Mitchell? What Happened?
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:52:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University - HCF
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

After getting Keith Mitchell with a third round pick in my PBM Strat
league, I was thrilled, as he put up good numbers both at Richmond
and in Atlanta in '91.  However, he seems to have died this year at AAA,
hitting about .230 with only a few HR's.  I know he's still rather
young, but is there any other reason for his decline?  Maybe a nagging
injury or something?  Does any Brave fan have any information?  Is there
ANY chance he might get a September call-up? (I lose his rights if he
doesn't play in the bigs this year).  Thanks. 

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jacobs: Sign Cal Now!!        Bruce 'Slower than Sam Horn' Hasch
O's all the way in '92        Owner of the 53-82 :-( Hammers of the UBA
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Question-infield fly rule
From: grabiner@math.harvard.edu (David Grabiner)
Date: 16 Aug 92 13:17:57 EDT
Organization: Harvard University Dept. of Mathematics
In-reply-to: zappala@Xerox.com's message of Sat, 15 Aug 1992 21:16:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.211645.29487@parc.xerox.com>, Daniel Zappala writes:

> So have you ever seen an infielder drop a *line drive* on purpose, in order
> to get a double play?

If the fielder *touches* the ball and intentionally drops it, the batter
is out, removing the force play. If he lets a line drive *fall*, he can
go for the double play.

On an infield fly, the batter is out even if the ball is allowed to drop
untouched.

--
David Grabiner, grabiner@zariski.harvard.edu
"We are sorry, but the number you have dialed is imaginary."
"Please rotate your phone 90 degrees and try again."
Disclaimer: I speak for no one and no one speaks for me.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum)
Subject: Re: JEFF REARDON
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:42:44 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.063315.14427@news.stolaf.edu>, alvstad@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Joel D Alvstad) writes:
|> In article <92228.041547IO20456@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> Ryan Robbins <IO20456@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
|> >For three years I have cringed at the site of Jeff Reardon being called in
|> >from the bullpen. For three years I have watched him blow leads that
|> >other closers would have sewn up in no time. When is the Red Sox management
|> >going to realize that Jeff Reardon must go? Tonight he blew a two-run
|> >lead, and then lost the ball game, by giving up a home run to that frequent
|> >home run hitter, Milwaukee veteran Jim Gantner. Reardon may be the all-time
|> >saves leader, but he has lousy mechanics, and all he does is try to strike
|> >hitters out by throwing watermelons up the heart of the plate. Doesn't he
|> >realize that he's not as fast a pitcher as he used to be?

  He can't help it - he's just used too much! He's actually quite effective
  when used every 4th day or so - then is ERA is very good. But when used
  with less than 2 days rest, his ERA is about 4. I forget the exact figures,
  but these stats were given in Gammons Globe column yesterday.

-Ron





|> >+===============================================================+
|> >||   RYAN ROBBINS                    INTERNET:                 ||
|> >||   UNIVERSITY OF MAINE             IO20456@MAINE.MAINE.EDU   ||
|> >+===============================================================+
|> 
|> Now way, Gantner hit a home run??!?                  
|> Then again, while he was with the Twins, Reardon gave away many a game (one in
|> Baltimore seems to stick in my mind.  Anyone else remember this?).
|> 
|> Joel Alvstad
|> 
|>
From: dbloom@bnr.ca (David Bloom P025)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Mets Protected list
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:54:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP


 This is who I'd protect

 Majors now:

 1. Bonilla
 2. Johnson
 3. Saberhagen
 4. Fernandez
 5. Schourek
 6. Gooden
 7. Hundley
 8. Donnells 
 9. A Young

 Minors now

10. Jose Martinez (AA)      -P
11. Jeremy Burnitz (AAA)    -OF
12. Brook Froydace (AA)     -C
13. Eric Hillman(AAA)       -P
14. Jullian Vasquez (AAA)   -P
15. Butch Huskey(A)         -3B    

* I don't know if Huskey is automatically protected or not?
16. DJ Dozier               -OF

Free Agents who don't have to be protected

Cone
Magadan
Schofield

 Players left unprotected

Coleman - I hope someone takes him, always hurt,big salary, from Forida.
Franco  - big contract, if you lose him, give AY the closer role, save money 
Murray  - too big a contact to be taken? Rumor has it that contract says he
          wont be subjected to draft.
Elster  - Will he be healthy?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: sgs@milton.u.washington.edu (Steven Smith)
Subject: Birthdays
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:05:22 GMT

Baseball Birthdays

August 13
Jim "Mudcat" Grant, 1935
Tony Cloninger, 1940
Wilmer "Vinegar Bend" Mizell, 1930
Andre Thornton, 1949
Tom Niedenfuer, 1959
Sid Gordon, 1917
Lou Finney, 1910
Jeff Ballard, 1963
Jay Buhner, 1964
Fred "Chicken" Stanley, 1947
Fielder Jones, 1874
Bill Stafford, 1939
Steve Swetonic, 1903

--Steve
-- 
 sgs@u.washington.edu             * 
 Steve Smith                      * "We want a pitcher, not a belly itcher." 
 University of Washington HR-20   *    			-- Bill Plummer
 Seattle, WA 98195                * 		
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: brian@meaddata.com (Brian Curran)
Subject: Re: Boston Red Sox and Texas Rangers schedules
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:33:55 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.135824.11449@ccsun.strath.ac.uk>, ccas27@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("A.J.Anderson") writes:
|> 
|>  Could someone please e-mail or post the September home game schedules for the
|>  Boston Red Sox and the Texas Rangers.

Here's the Sox schedule:

Sept    11      Detroit   
Sept    12      Detroit   
Sept    13      Detroit   
Sept    14      Milwaukee
Sept    15      Milwaukee 
Sept    16      Milwaukee 
Sept    17      Milwaukee 

Sept    22      Cleveland
Sept    23      Cleveland
Sept    24      Cleveland

October 2       New York 
October 3       New York 
October 4       New York 
-- 
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Bobby Bragan, Milwaukee Braves manager, on catcher Joe Torre:
 "I can't understand why he hasn't been nicknamed Chicken.  Don't you get it?
   Chicken Catcher Torre!"
From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Say it's so! Baseball in Tampa Bay!!!
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:09:43 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

In article <1992Aug12.200557.18069@parc.xerox.com> zappala@Xerox.com (Daniel Zappala) writes:
>I'll have to paraphrase your original posting, since you didn't include it,
>but my point was that it is difficult to buy a franchise when you are faced
>with having the franchise lose money every year. 

No team really loses money every year.  The Giants certainly haven't.  

> You responded by saying
>that franchises don't always lose money, and besides, it would have to
>lose an awful lot of money to counteract the growth rate of $8 million to
>$111 million in 14 years.
>
>The above excerpt, beyond telling us that Grousbeck doesn't want to buy the
>team, also indicates that the projected annual losses *are* in fact enough
>to hinder someone from buying the team.  

No, it tells us that Grousbeck doesn't want to buy the team.  Since he's
been painted in the local media as the knight in shining armor come to
rescue the team, it's difficult for him to say "I don't want to buy the
team".  It's much easier to say "I can't afford to buy the team".  

Let's think about whether a $10 million loss/year sounds realistic.  Say
the Giants only draw 1.5 million a year.  My standard average ticket price,
which seems pretty reasonable, is $8.  That's $12 million in revenues.  I
just read the other day that the A's broadcast revenues are currently $10
million.  I would bet that the Giants are higher: they're on better
stations.  Let's conservatively put the Giants local broadcast revenues at
$12 million.  This year's national broadcast revenues are $16 million.
We're up to $40 million in revenues (more than the payroll, the single
biggest cost), and we still haven't counted all the revenues.  There's
still revenues from merchandising, parking, concessions.  The Giants might
be able to come up with a way to show a $10 million paper loss this year
(after all, the Yankees managed to show a paper loss this past year), but
it will take some work.

As for the future, yes, there is the possibility that national TV revenues
will not bring in as much in the future.  That is not a certainty, and it's
not like it's going to disappear, either.  If it does, the other thing that
will happen in conjunction is that player salaries will come down.  The
Giants are not committed to many contracts that extend beyond the end of
the current TV contract; Black, Righetti, and possibly Clark are the only
ones I'm aware of.

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
From: pcaster@mizar.usc.edu (Dodger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Kevin Gross Info
Date: 18 Aug 1992 23:14:27 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Kevin Gross

Al Downing is sooooo biased, I don't know how you could listen to him.
I've NEVER heard him say anything negative about any Dodger.
He'd probably find some way to defend against this awful defense
this year.  I gave up on listening to Al years ago.

As for Gross....can anyone answer this question?
How old is he?
I've seen 31, 32, and 36 in three different stories about the
no hitter.
I think his birthday may actually be today.
Does anyone know his real age for sure?
					BleedsDodgerBlue

Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: paladin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jason Gische)
Subject: Re: Bass and Marlins
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 01:03:23 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.191706.838732@locus.com> aardvark@locus.com (Warren Usui) writes:
>Maybe the Marlins can also hire Catfish Hunter, Tim Salmon, Steve Trout,
>and Harvey Haddix (sp.).  Jeff Musselman and Preacher Roe may be pushing it.  
>Bob Lemon and Danny TARTARbull is.
>
what about Steve Lake?

Actually, the way the Mets have been floundering, send the whole team to
Miami.

-Jason Gische
From: IO20456@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Ryan Robbins)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: RULEBOOK TRIVIA 17
Date: 18 Aug 92 02:15:18 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

On a 3-2 count the pitcher sends a fast ball high and tight to a
right handed hitter. The batter attempts to get out of the way by
turning counter clockwise. The ball strikes him in the hip as he
loses his grip on the bat. The bat falls to the ground in front of
the plate. You're the home plate umpire. What's the call?

Similar play to last week's. Runners at corners. Grounder to short.
The short stop flips to the second baseman for one out, and the
second baseman throws to first. The batter-runner reaches out and
"accidentally" knocks the ball off its path to the first baseman.
The throw was wide toward the plate. What's the call?

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||   RYAN ROBBINS                    INTERNET:                 ||
||   UNIVERSITY OF MAINE             IO20456@MAINE.MAINE.EDU   ||
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From: dswartz@redondo.sw.stratus.com (Dan Swartzendruber)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Cy Yonnd Awards for last place teams...
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:29:59 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering

In article <1992Aug15.162027.12419@newton.ccs.tuns.ca: bagneltw@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Trevor W Bagnell) writes:
:
:
:Well, i know this has happened at least once.
:Steve Carlton did it for the Phillies. The team only one 54 games and Carlton    had 27 of them and won the Cy.
:  I think Clemens will duplicate this feat again this year. Can you imagine if  Clemens actually pitched for a team who gave him run support(i.e. Toronto or     perhaps Atlanta). He'd be 30-4! Especially this year. I have personally watched Jeff (could someone please remove this dildo from my ass) Reardon blow 3 saves this year and Clemens(of course) got the loss.

Well, I'd be the last person on the face of God's Green Earth to disagree
with your evaluation of "Meatball", but actually I think he only blew the
win, not actually a loss.  I.e. Roger got several no-decisions courtesy
of Jeff.  Hey, could we take the title of "The Bartender" away from Walt
Terrel and grant it to Reardon?

:  If i were Clemens, I would want to be traded to a decent team.......Hmmmmm.....Toronto needs pitching help don't they.
:
:  Guzman, Carter, and Maldonado -------for----:CLEMENS!!
:
:  Boston gets a decent young pitcher in Guzman, some decent outfielders that don't sit out games for no reason, and some home run power.
:
:  Toronto get the best pitcher in baseball plus a world series or three.
:
:  Works for me,
:  -mike


-- 

Dan S.
From: foonberg@Aero.org (Alan Foonberg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Dodgers 4, Reds 3
Keywords: Dodgers
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:08:08 GMT
Reply-To: foonberg@aero.org
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation

In article <13AUG199216305235@mary.fordham.edu>, nissim@mary.fordham.edu (Leonard J. Nissim) writes:
|> Just heard on the radio that the Dodgers beat the Reds this afternoon, 4-3,
|> in "a see-saw game in which Reds' reliever Norm Charlton was ejected." 
|> 
|> As Charlton is one of my most hated players (last year he hit Mike Scioscia
|> with a pitch, boasted that he had done it on purpose, and promised to hit him
|> the head next time), I am curious for more details.  Did N.C. hit someone on 
|> purpose (in the umpire's judgement), or just argue a ball/strike call, or 
|> commit some other offense?  Thanks in advance for the info.  

I believe he was tossed for going to his mouth with his hand while standing on
the rubber.

Hard to believe the Dodgers actually won while committing 6 errors.
-- 
Alan Foonberg
foonberg@aero.org
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: MCMASTER@LSTC2VM.stortek.com
Subject: Re: MLB Standings and Scores for Wed, Aug 12th, 1992
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:18:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.160748.12356@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
csquared@coos.dartmouth.edu (C Squared) writes:
 
>In article <16ba0cINNoof@agate.berkeley.edu> jtchern@ocf.berkeley.edu (Joseph Hernandez) writes:
>>        MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL STANDINGS FOR WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 12, 1992
>>Boston Red Sox        52    60    .464  13.5      4-6    Lost 3  35-24  17-36
>>Cleveland Indians     51    62    .451  15.0     z7-3     Won 2  28-30  23-32
>>New York Yankees      51    62    .451  15.0      3-7    Lost 2  27-28  24-34
>>
>This is getting more depressing by the day.  A game and a half out of the
>cellar!?!  AAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
>
>C Squared
 
Only a half game after last night's game.  At the beginning of the year
I never thought they would finish lower than second!
 
Jim McMaster