From: johndunk@planet10.wpi.edu (John Dunkelberg)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian
Subject: Re: Liberal/New Age Religion (Was: Santeria and animal-sacrifice)
Date: 17 Nov 92 08:39:18 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute

In article <Nov.15.22.26.07.1992.24018@geneva.rutgers.edu> ptfarre@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Peter Farrell) writes:
>Pluralism is the disease which may well destroy the United States of America
>and quite possibly in our own lifetimes. Its fundamental premise is that
>numerous disparate systems of thought and value can co-exist peacefully
>in a nation where liberty, law and order are maintained. But this premise
>has limits. You cannot saw off the branch you are sitting on and still
>expect it to support you. After all reasonable cultural values and ideas
>have been exhausted, all that is left is the unreasonable.  People who
>declare that the Constitution also protects such faiths and value systems
>as those which the God of the Bible condemns repeatedly in its pages
>are sawing the branch which supports them. Pluralism has run wild. 

I would submit that your "faith and value systems" are not the branch
on which the United States sits.  I would further submit that:

Pluralism is the *strength* will may well *save* the United States of
America, and quite possibly in our own lifetimes.  Its fundamental
premise is that numerous disparate systems of thought and value can
co-exist, and further, enhance and strengthen a nation where liberty,
law, and order are maintained.  But this premise has limits!  You
cannot saw off the branch that supports you and expect it to support
you.  With only ONE set of values, only ONE set of faiths, the human
weaknesses of pride and prejudice will inevitabily lead to the
destruction of minority thought, and soon any inerrant and creative
spark that might lend life to the nation.

>I unabashedly say to those who would prefer to return to the pagan
>rites and value systems of the occultic to go somewhere else. I AM
>for barring them even though the Constitution seems to protect them
>because over and above the Constitution also sits the law of common
>sense and above that Divine law itself.

I unabashedly say to those who would prohibit all thought save their
own, all belief save their own, all values save their own that they
MAY GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!  I AM for encouraging them to find and
establish their own land, their own Constitution, so that they might
presume to know what is the Divine Law of the One God Almighty.  With
total lack of common sense, and with the greatest sin before God,
Pride, they claim to know the mind of God, and in doing so they deny
all that Jesus Christ hath taught.

>The verdict is still out but our nation's future is again in
>question.  This great struggle, like the one in Lincoln's day, is one
>in which we will see if any nation so conceived can long endure.

as Lincoln may have sung:
Glory, glory halleleuia!  Glory, glory halleleuia!
He is stamping out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored

Stamp out your wrath, Brother.  Join in love for all man, and judge
not the thoughts and beliefs of your fellow man, for that judgement is
reserved to God and God alone.  Presume not to be the arm of his law.
"Try and love one another, right now."

john

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