HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: 2 UNLIMITED AND RELATIVE INTERESTS
Date: 16 Dec 92 09:43:29 GMT
Organization: BT Glasgow Systems and Software Engineering Centre, Scotland.


-- 
>Some tasteless git wrote 
>
>RE: Jive Bunny and Undercover at same level as 2-unlimited
>

	How the hell can you justify bringing Jive Bunny to the level of
Undercover ?
	You've obviously never heard the Jive Bunny 'Dub spectacular EP' , which
is a rumpin' pumpin' stompin' skankin' 45 minute mix of all the best Leftfield ,
Sasha , and Justin Robertson tunes ...... ie. NOT!!!!


Also , a big happy Christmas to EVERYONE on the net , from 2 - Unlimiters , to
3000BPM ravers , to Orb fans young and old , old and new , to EVERYBODY in
Dundee .... and to anyone else who has ever thought I'm a prick !

There , you can't get any friendlier than that (this is a challenge!)

Have a good vibe , and don't OD on turkey and buns (or women , as I've not got
one .... :( .... so no slagging me about it! )

Stephen Quigg
squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk 
British Telecom , GSSEC , Glasgow
(Nothing in any of my mail represents my Employer in any way)

Seeing as how this Signature is so bad , I thought , hey , maybe I could start a
new net trend ..... how about we all start going through the complete history of
dance music , in an accapela (sort of style) ???

Thus , typical signature could be :

Stephen Quigg
squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk
(usual disclaimer so I can hide behind my lawyer)

This week : tribal
"bom shick shick shick"
"bom shicka shicka shacka"
"(usual chant deleted....)"
"dum ... dum dum dum .... do dum (... heavy dub bass deleted..) "
"bom shicka shicka shicka"
"(Repeat until bored to tears)..."

Hey Gang , you know it's a good idea ......

see ya !
Steve

Question ?
Is the net buggered in BT ? I've no new alt.rave (only some British posts) ?
Or is there some mysterious reason (like aliens in America ???????)

I'm very confused .............. OR AM I ?

yet again ,
see ya !
Steve
From: larry@cs.com (Larry Spence)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Any good Trance comp. recommendations? (don't shoot! don't shoot!)
Summary: IMHO
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:04:32 GMT
Organization: Computer Support Corporation,  Dallas,Texas

In article <1992Dec15.045442.16850@selway.umt.edu> ogd@selway.umt.edu (ozymandias G desiderata) writes:
>
>	3) I really don't like tribal. (without getting myself in too
>deep, I will say that (IMHO, of course) being raised on the "real
>thing" as far as world beats and ethnic rhythms has sort of jaded my
>view of what is called "tribal." I'd say that Peter Gabriel's
>_Passion_ and the infinitely better _Passion Sources_ come much closer
>to being "real" tribal techno.

Yep, "tribal techno" just seems like another flavor-of-the-minute.  Next
worst thing to Paul Simon's _Graceland_ (ok, I exaggerate a bit).  I'd
rather hear some African Head Charge or King Sunny Ade, but that's just 
me... "tribal techno" falls into the same category as that gawdawful Taco 
Pizza they're trying to sell now (IMHO).

>	Anyway, any help would be appreciated. I'm sick, wounded,
>taking finals, and have a monumental headache, so I'm looking for some
>smooth, bass-laden music (which actually feels damn good for some odd
>reason) to give me solace until this nightmare called finals reaches
>its grim end.

Go listen to some real dub, not the "dub for people who don't like reggae"
stuff that gets used as yet another Techno Pizza topping... I suggest
_African Rubber Dub_ on Century (UK) for starters.

-- 
Larry Spence
larry@cs.com
uunet!csccat!larry 
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: lind@iesd.auc.dk (Morten Lind)
Subject: test
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University
Distribution: alt
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:26:53

sorry just testing
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: Any good Trance comp. recommendations? (don't shoot! don't shoot!)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit MI  U.S.A.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:29:52 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.220432.358@cs.com>
larry@cs.com (Larry Spence) writes:
 
>In article <1992Dec15.045442.16850@selway.umt.edu> ogd@selway.umt.edu (ozymandias G desiderata) writes:
...
>>to being "real" tribal techno.
>
>Yep, "tribal techno" just seems like another flavor-of-the-minute.  Next
>worst thing to Paul Simon's _Graceland_ (ok, I exaggerate a bit).  I'd
>rather hear some African Head Charge or King Sunny Ade, but that's just
>me... "tribal techno" falls into the same category as that gawdawful Taco
>Pizza they're trying to sell now (IMHO).
 
Oh man! What a posuer! I was eating Pizzazz Pizza from Taco Bell in Detroit
way back in '85! ;-) ;-) ;-)
 
--Eric
 
eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu  "It's that constant beat; that 'boom, boom, boom!'
Detroit, Michigan  USA         I get hyped, I get into it, and when the
                                     breaks come . . . I scream!" :)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell)
Subject: Re: MEDIA:  MTV NEWS (domestic) Report on X
Organization: University of Illinois School of Music
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 09:42:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.222922.28828@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (gogo is insane) writes:
> 
>Mtv NEWS Report on Ecstacy
>airing in December, 1992 in the USA
> 
> 
>        Familiar Mtv News intro fades to shot of Kurt, backdrop being map
>        of Europe.
> 
>KURT LODER:  Hi I'm Kurt Loder with Mtv news, this time from Europe where the
>rave subculture of clandestine dance parties continue to grow throughout the
>continent and with it the use of the drug called Ecstacy. Thousands of young
>people throughout Europe are reported to be taking this illegal drug every
>weekend, some as a stimulant for dancing, others as an aphoridisiac.  But, one
>British medical journal recently reported that Ecstacy can be lethal.  And in
>order to gage the drug's true effects, are colleagues at Mtv Europe have been
>doing some research.  Here's their report.
> 
And of course, if you want to see some _really_ stoopid comments on E, check
out this week's issue of _Business_Weekly_ wherein, in their article on
"Generation X" (to which _all_ 18-30 year-olds now belong, in fact!), yez
fave rave drug gets described as a "combination of mild hallucinogens and
speed". Of course, that article points out, also, that the _vast_majority_
of 18-30 year olds are into the "rave scene", where we hang out in warehouses
and parking lots and listen to great rave acts like Nine Inch Nails. Yeech!!!
	And remember, gang, this is straight from that magazine tracking
todays _important_ business tips, _Business Weekly_..ask for it by name...NOT!

D.A.C. Crowell
Computer Music Project/School of Music
University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
(dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu)



Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: dhoffman@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Hoffman)
Subject: pointless flames
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:12:36 GMT

I'm really sick of reading flames of reviews, comments, and opinions posted to
this group.  This is supposed to be a forum for the discussion of techno and
other related types of music, and the rave scene in general.  Unfortunately
some people (from both sides of the Atlantic) have a tendency to insult people
whose likes or dislikes are different from their own.  Get a grip, people.
There are going to be many people who disagree with you on any topic, and
you won't score many points by insulting all of them.  If you expect other
people to listen to your opinions, then you better damn well respect opinions
submitted by other people as well.  If you think people with musical preferencesthat are different from yours are idiots, then post to a different news group.
(alt.opinionated.assholes maybe?)  

Dave Hoffman
University of Colorado, Boulder
From: sho@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Sho Kuwamoto)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Want To Throw A Rave
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:59:12 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Physics Department

In article <92352.033637KXS137@psuvm.psu.edu> KXS137@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>Hi folks, I got hooked to this rave music when a friend of mine played
>that incredible CD, Rave Til Dawn.  I know, it may be old news to ya guys,
>but newbie ravers gotta start somewhere.
>
>Anyway, we started to talk about rave and by the end of the discussion we
>decided that where gonna throw a "rave" here at Penn State University next
>semester when we come back from X-mas break.  [...]
>Could you list some good compilations, singles, and groups
>that I could purchase at the CD store without difficulty [...]
>attaining since where I live rave is hard to find as it is.

I'm always glad to see people getting into techno/rave, but
I worry that maybe you're taking things a bit too fast.  Why
don't you try getting into the music a little more, first.

It'll be easier that way.

And if you still want to play techno at a party, just call
it a party.  Print flyers, if you want, but don't call it a
rave.  

-Sho
--
sho@physics.purdue.edu
From: aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Steven J.)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: dir/new
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:34:35 GMT
Organization: The Other Side of the CPU
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.30

tannenba@fnala.fnal.gov writes:
: This may be the silliest question y'all have ever seen on this newsgroup, but
: since I'm new to this rave thing I gotta ask..... What kind of clothing does
: one usually wear to a rave? So many music genres have their own "uniform", I'm
: wondering what it is for this one. I may be going to one soon and don't want to
: stick out _really_ bad. A little, sure. But not really bad.

This comes up every once in a while and surprises me every time.  Wear what
you're most comfortable in 'cause if you're gonna dance 'til dawn it's gonna
get REAL hot and REAL sweaty and does it really matter what you're wearing
anyway
?

Steve J. White
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (gogo is insane)
Subject: Who's Who of the InterNet
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 05:09:30 GMT



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WHO are you?

Hi.  I publish the FutureCulture FAQ file, which is a self-described
"somewhat definitive guide to resources bringing you the future."  It
is basically an ever-growing guide to the new edge, technoculture,
cybperculture, etc., particular the relevant on-line aspects of the
aforementioned subculture(s)

One of the sections is a "who's who" of on-line 'celebrities', and
appears in the file like this:

	V. Important Person		Musician/Author 
	John Q. NetPublic		Hacker/Writer

So, if you are someone who would like to be mentioned in the file (no
email addrresses are given out), or if you know of someone who you
feel garners recognition, please send relevant info. (including a
basic summary of credentials in-case I fall knowledge-impaired) to:

      ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu

I am looking for on-line people from all walks of life, including:
hackers (in the underground sense), writers, magazine editors,
artists, musicians, DJs, NetGurus, authors, or any other
characteristic that might seperate onesself from the mass.net.public.

Thanks in advance.

--

    ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu	        FutureCulture:  In/f0rmation
    ahawks@mindvox.phantom.com		future-request@nyx.cs.du.edu

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Any good Trance comp. recommendations? (don't shoot! don't shoot!)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 02:20:45 GMT
Organization: Usenet Power Elite: Crush-The-Innocent-Newbies Strike Team

pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) writes:

> The best compilation I can recommend is also probably the hardest to
> get. "Logic Trance" on Logic Records.  I don't have an address.  I don't
> have a phone number.  I stumbled upon it myself. 

I got my copy from Ear/Rational Music (email angst%cs@hub.ucsb.edu) for
around $30, and it was still listed in the catalog that came out last week
sometime.  Great 2CD set, reasonable price.  (I still like 'Give Peace A
Dance Volume 2: The Ambient Collection' better, though.)

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Praise Raves...
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 08:15:08 GMT
Organization: Usenet Power Elite: Crush-The-Innocent-Newbies Strike Team
Followup-To: talk.religion.misc

ctdonath@dodo.syr.EDU (Carl T. Donath) writes:

> The bad name that Christianity has gotten comes from power-hungry jerks
> who managed to take control of groups of peaceful, loving, rightous
> people and whip them into raving lunatics that violated their own
> standards in the name of preserving and spreading those standards... 

It also comes from arrogance like the following:

> You want to experience real love and joy? Find a group of real
> Christians. You want joyous enthusiasm? Try a Praise Rave. 

There are plenty of people in the world who are capable of experiencing
real love and joy without Christ's help.  It's wonderful that you've found
a center for your life, but please don't assume that your solutions are
necessarily valid for anyone else.   

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ah431@yfn.ysu.edu (Evan P. Roth)
Subject: Re: Want To Throw A Rave
Reply-To: ah431@yfn.ysu.edu (Evan P. Roth)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:45:56 GMT


In a previous article, KXS137@psuvm.psu.edu () says:

>Hi folks, I got hooked to this rave music when a friend of mine played
>that incredible CD, Rave Til Dawn.  I know, it may be old news to ya guys,
>but newbie ravers gotta start somewhere.
>
>Anyway, we started to talk about rave and by the end of the discussion we
>decided that where gonna throw a "rave" here at Penn State University next
>semester when we come back from X-mas break.  

[stuff about lameness of penn state deleted]

>Could you list some good compilations, singles, and
>Here is some of the type of songs my friend suggested I
>play.
>                   -Drop A Beat         -Jump
>                   -Temple of Dreams    -Anthasia
>                   -Quadrophonia        -Basket Case
>                   -Ebeneezer Goode     -A Million Colors
>                   -Move Any Mountin    -Out of Space
>                   -Obumbratta          -James Brown is Dead
>                   -3 a.m. Eternal
>                   -Dominator
>                   -O Fortuna
>                   -The Volume is Loud
>
>ANY comments or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
>

listen, kris-

    i don't mean to diss you in *any* way for undertaking this but i think 
you're coming from the wrong end of things! get a clue- that 'rave til dawn'
cd is soooo commercial; i would be the last person to stop you from playing it
if you want to but don't play it (or anything like it) at anything you're 
going to label a rave IMHO or else you're gonna give them a bad name, as well
as to anyone that's never *been* to a rave before.
    my advice: go to a rave before you try to plan one and see what the 
promoters, lighting people, and djs do... also, are you planning to play off of
cd or vinyl???!! you have a good idea and good intentions (of that i am sure)
but you have to find out what's behind it before you attempt to duplicate it.

PEACE...


-- 
l i fff 
l   f  eee  
l i ff ee  - don't mess it up.
l i f  eee
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: cep@sage.cc.purdue.edu (CRAIG PFEIFER)
Subject: Re: Any good Trance comp. recommendations? (don't shoot! don't shoot!)
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:17:14 GMT

>In article <1992Dec15.045442.16850@selway.umt.edu> ogd@selway.umt.edu (ozymandias G desiderata) writes:
>Pizza they're trying to sell now (IMHO).
                                   ^^^^ - I've been trying to figure out since
                                          September what this means! Context 
                                          is no help!!!



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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Beloved (The sun is finally rising again)
Date: 15 Dec 92 04:25:04 GMT
Organization: Usenet Power Elite: Crush-The-Innocent-Newbies Strike Team

cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk (Richard W Rackham) writes:

> At least the BPI have put a limit on the number of formats for a single
> to be released - maybe I will be able to get all of the mixes this time
> round (anyone who tried to get all of the mixes for 'Your Love Takes Me
> Higher' will understand what I mean). 

Yeek!  Yeah, there were how many mixes out for that -- thirteen?  More?
Let's see: album, 7", beautiful, burning with dj desire, chillum willum,
deep joy, depth and desire, divinely simple, magic juan's sex mix, rise
up higher, simply divine, the pod went pop mix . . .

Any other hardcore Beloved collectors out there?  The discography could
use a few updates . . .

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
From: msc9315@geovax.ed.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Universe.
Date: 15 Dec 92 12:00:21 GMT
Organization: University of Edinburgh, Geography Department.

In article <Bz9GCo.20s@cs.bham.ac.uk>, rjg@cs.bham.ac.uk (Robin J Green) writes:
> 
> P.S. What's the wierdest experience you've ever had at a rave? Mine
> was some girl drifting through the crowd came up to me, flung her arms
> around me and said she loves me, that she'd love me forever and that
> she wanted my children. She danced with me for a while and left after
> giving me a hug. Nice girl. Wierd tho...

  The Orb Manchester Hallowe'en extraganza, when I ended up dancing with
  some large pink herbivore (rabbit, I think).
  That was well unanthropomorphic.
                                           (--)
  that's my eight oktas worth,           (------)
                                           (----)
  J.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 11:06:25 EST
From: DARREN <DCC122@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Darren's underground

I would like to thank all those who replied...my vision of an underground is,
of course, biased since the majority of the ones I attended were in the
Hollywood area.  A different kind of underground, yes, and with the response I
got from you all, they are ones to be sought after...I will open my horizons if
I can and ask of you to do the same...go to Cali if you can and have a taste of
the scene that I have grown to love and I will continue to search as well, then
we can judge each other...I guess my statement from before (about 'real'
undergrounds) was a bit premature.  My account expires tomorrow so this will be
my final posting for the year...have a nice commercialized holiday.

 Just closed my eyes,  Darren.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car)
Subject: Re: Prefab Sprout VS FSOL (was Re: Orbital vs Opus 3)
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:09:59 GMT


nuscss1@vms1.iscs.nus.sg (Vax BULLET-IN-Board SysOps) writes:
>Following UB40 VS 808 State , here comes Prefab Sprout VS FSOL
>Whatever is happening here ?

i dunno.  it's a great track (both the original and FSOL mixes).  what's
your problem?

(not a little biased cos the us promo 12" has a remix of the track by my
housemate and myself...)

-- 
Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ)                 uunet!sco!jondr   jondr@sco.com
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: droe@cs.tcd.ie (David Roe)
Subject: Re: Cabaret Voltaire discography v1.1
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin (Astrobiology)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 12:23:41 GMT

>I WANT YOU
>	12" 	1985 	Virgin/Some Bizzare 		CVS 5-12	UK
>

Ah, heady days of '85 - '86. They played "I want you" at a club here in
Dublin in the middle of a complete acid/trance set at about 5 a.m. I
loved it, then noticed everyone else looking at each other quizically,
brought it home, that these people either dont remember that far back,
or were into Limahl or some such shit at the time. Was great though

	Dave "You were in a car crash!!!!" Roe
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: dhoffman@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Hoffman)
Subject: acid jazz
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:10:18 GMT

I was wondering if anyone could review compilations of the "Soft Tones of
Acid Jazz" series.  I've never (to my knowledge, anyway) heard this type of
music, and am rather curious about it.  Thanks!

Any other information about acid jazz would be appreciated, posted or e-mailed.

Dave Hoffman

University of Colorado, Boulder


Xref: sparky alt.rave:5856 rec.music.funky:1956
From: strickej@ucs.orst.edu (Jesse Stricker)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: Smart Drugs at Raves
Date: 17 Dec 1992 07:04:26 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucs.orst.edu

	Oh, epinephrine, serontonin, rhodopsin, H2O, lactic acid, etc.

	Sorry.
-- 
	"The number one problem in this world is that people are not able to
accomodate the lesson in the Book of Job."  -- Rear Adm. James Stockdale, USN

	Jesse Stricker  -  strickej@ucs.orst.edu  -  The Shrike Is Merciful
From: larry@cs.com (Larry Spence)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Real Dub -vs- Ambiant/trance
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:31:36 GMT
Organization: Computer Support Corporation,  Dallas,Texas

In article <105176@bu.edu> jdisegi@bu.edu (Jonathan Disegi) writes:
>I really love vintage Acid House and techno and New-Beat, and all of that 
>stuff, but I have a suggestion to everyone who wants really heavy Ambient/
>Orb-like stuff: Okay, I love the Orb, but if you think 'Towers of Dub' is
>cool, you should really treat yourself to some vintage, 1970's Dub. First of
>all, Lee Perry, the mad, evil genious of dub, is much better than any of this
>fakeo techno-dub that is being put out now. 

A new Lee Perry compilation, _Soundsz on the Hot Wire_, is out on Heartbeat.
It's mainly 70s material, really good.

>The Upsetter has literally 
>released Hundreds and Hundreds of records and they are all very unique and
>brilliant -- While they were recorded up to 20 years ago, they are more 
>futuristic than anything being put out today, 
 ^^^^^^^^^^
I would use the term "whacked out," myself. %)  Lee Perry is an acquired 
taste; the commonest reactions I hear are "that guy can't sing!" and
"what drugs were they on when they mixed this?"

>Try to buy any of the Lee Perry Box sets on Trojan records, or
>the various other Trojan compilations of Lee Perry material.

I've resisted doing this so far, since Trojan mega-shafted Perry and he
won't see a cent of royalties from any Trojan CDs or LPs you buy. 

>Also try Burning Spear's Dub endevours, Augustus Pablo, 

A. Pablo is very nice and relaxing, although melancholy.  

>They all put the new dub to shame!

Well, if someone just doesn't like reggae, they're not going to agree.  Maybe
a good intro to (reggae) dub would be Mad Professor's _Who Knows The Secret
of the Master Tape?_, since he did the Orb remix.  Other choices might be 
some of the Adrian Sherwood On-U Sound dub stuff, e.g., Creation Rebel,
Playgroup, etc.

"It has to be heavy, extra heavy, and double irie"  -- Lee Perry

-- 
Larry Spence
larry@cs.com
uunet!csccat!larry 
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