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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:10:14 GMT
From: jon_sree@world.std.com (Jon Sreekanth)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Volume of Telecom Question
Organization: The World
X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 695, Message 12 of 14

In article <telecom12.689.1@eecs.nwu.edu> stapleton@misvax.mis.
arizona.edu (Dr. Ross Alan Stapleton) writes:


For a paper I'm writing on export controls and information, I'd like
to present a quick summary of the growth of telecommunications over
the past several decades.  I've seen some overview articles (there was
a two-pager in the {Whole Earth Review} a few issues back), but could
someone from this most august forum provide some referenced figures

{Wall Street Journal}, Oct 4, 91, had a special section on telecomm.
Lots of interesting articles, and figures too.


Jon Sreekanth

Assabet Valley Microsystems, Inc.       Fax and PC products
5 Walden St #3, Cambridge, MA 02140     (617) 876-8019
jon_sree@world.std.com
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 16:54:02 GMT
From: hhallika@zeus.calpoly.edu (Harold Hallikainen)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Distinctive-Ringing Decoder
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 692, Message 8 of 8

In article <telecom12.679.7@eecs.nwu.edu> Alan TC Penn <tc@cdc.hp.com>
writes:

> I am going for a distinctive-ringing decoder or demultiplexer. The
> function of this device is to route the incoming phone message
> directly to either an answering machine or a modem.

	Seems that the telecom device companies (modem manufacturers,
fax machine manufacturers, phone manufacturers, etc.) ought to put the
distinctive ringing decoder inside their machines.  It should "be just
software".  Are there standards for distinctive ringing (standard
cadence, etc.).  I guess we could handle some of it in software by
watching the RI line on modems.


Harold Hallikainen              ap621@Cleveland.Freenet.edu
Hallikainen & Friends, Inc.     hhallika@pan.calpoly.edu
141 Suburban Road, Bldg E4      phone 805 541 0200 fax 544 6715
San Luis Obispo, CA 93401-7590  telex 4932775 HFI UI
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 00:39:37 EDT
From: capek@watson.ibm.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Information Calls Direct to Desired Party
Organization: TELECOM Digest
X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 703, Message 8 of 12

Alec Isaacson writes:

>  I was listening to the radio last night and I heard a commercial from
>  Cincinnati Bell offering a service called "Call Completion".  The
>  commercial went on to say that if you call 555-1212 (rather than 411)
>  for directory assistance you can hit a touch tone 1 after the number
>  is looked up and be connected to that number.  (Then it went on to
>  rave about how you will never need to fumble for pen and paper again :)
>  The verbal "fine print" said this service cost $0.35 a pop, fee waived
>  for busy numbers, not available in certain areas or on rotary phones.

And as a side-effect, by not fumbling, you've neglected to write down
the number, so can pay 35 cents the next time, as well ...
From: tijc02!pjs269@uunet.UU.NET (Paul Schmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: U.S. Cable Television Re-Regulation
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:30:59 GMT
Organization: Advocates for Self-Government - Davy Crockett Chapter
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X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 714, Message 11 of 12

Nigel.Allen@lambada.oit.unc.edu () writes:

> Here is a press release from the National Association of Broadcasters
> and the Consumer Federation of America.

[Long press release about price regulation for cable companies.]

It was disappointed to see so much effort going into a bill that
won't, IMHO solve the problem.  I got very tired of the government
protected monopoly that our local cable company maintains so I put up
an antenna and save $22/mo.  There is a problem but price control will
only fix a symptom, not the problem.

I want to get the best price for cable service.  This is not acheived
through government decree of "fair" prices.  The Soviet Union tried to
control prices so that they would be "fair" and lost the automatic
pricing controls of the free market which contributed to much
suffering.

The problem is that cable companies can achieve monopoly status by
government decree.  This government enforced monopoly doesn't allow
the price lowering incentives of competition.  The bill proposed does
not do anything to solve this major problem.

Price regulation generally does increase costs.  The government could
never require a cable company to lose money.  Therefore, it would need
to decide what would be a reasonable profit for a company.  With a
monopoly and a mandated price with a guaranteed profit, cable
companies do not have to compete, innovate cost cutting measures, or
increase quality for their customers.  This system also favors the
bigger established companies, while the small struggling companies
would suffer.  For proof that this does occur, call any broker and ask
them about mutual funds for utilities.  They will likely tell you that
utilities are a very good investment.  They are stable and have good
yields.  Why?  Because the government controls their rates and
guarantees them a profit.

This problem will not be solved by more regulations.  The regulations
that have already given them monopoly status has raised them enough.
If a little alcohol gives you a hangover, you don't try to get rid of
it with even more alcohol.  


Paul Schmidt: Advocates for Self-Government
Davy Crockett Chapter President 
706 Judith Drive, Johnson City, TN 37604, (615) 283-0084 
uunet!tijc02!pjs269
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 03:49:00 GMT
From: viswayne@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (WAYNE D. MULLEN)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: What Number am I Calling From?
Organization: University at Buffalo
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X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 705, Message 6 of 11

In article <telecom12.647.7@eecs.nwu.edu>, CUNYVM!LYNCC.BITNET@mitvma.
mit.edu (Jahangir Momin) writes:

> I had a similar problem once, but then I wasn't in a 'hurry' to find
> out the number, and as I planned to use'that'phone 'frequently', I
> decided to place a call from that phone using my calling card.  The
> next phone bill dsiplayed 'that' number.

I missed the beginning of the thread, but here in Buffalo, dialing 990
will give you the number of the phone you're on.


Wayne D. Mullen, President        Internet: VISWAYNE@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU
Erie County Color Computer Club   (716)  649-1368  8-N-1  300/1200/2400
Buffalo, New York
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 12:08 PDT
From: john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: 911 on Jerry Springer Show
Reply-To: John Higdon <john@zygot.ati.com>
Organization: Green Hills and Cows
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 695, Message 5 of 14

On Sep 4 at  0:39, TELECOM Moderator writes:

> A stolen car or a home which was burglarized several hours previous
> to being discovered are not what I would term emergencies.  PAT]

But does it not seem a little unreasonable to expect citizens to
correctly make judgment calls on emergency/non-emergency situations
when there are cases when the 911 dispatcher cannot even make that
distinction? I refer, of course, to the celebrated case in San
Francisco where a young man called 911 from a pay phone to report that
he was being robbed by some thugs who were after his car. The
dispatcher passed the call off as "non-emergency" and did not issue a
code response.

The young man's body was found more than a day later.


        John Higdon         |   P. O. Box 7648   |   +1 408 264 4115
    john@zygot.ati.com      | San Jose, CA 95150 |       M o o !
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 01:41:12 GMT
From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Bell Science Series on Video
Reply-To: 70465.203@compuserve.com
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.
X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 696, Message 4 of 12

john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon) writes:

> Those of you who are over forty will remember a series of television
> programs sponsored by The Bell System. A product of the fifties, these
> were excellent films featuring Dr. Frank Baxter as host explaining
> such things as meteorology, time, biology, and physiology. Highly
> produced, these programs utilized puppets, animation, and well-written
> scripts to inform and entertain young and old alike. Unfortuately,
> even I did not own a VCR before 1974.

I'm only 37 and I remember them well. I remember one from TV, and the
rest from seeing the 16mm film version in junior high science classes.

Now if they only have them in Beta ... :-(


Leonard Erickson		      leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com
CIS: [70465,203]			 70465.203@compuserve.com
FIDO:   1:105/51	 Leonard.Erickson@f51.n105.z1.fidonet.org
(The CIS & Fido addresses are preferred)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 23:04:13 GMT
From: nmk@fns-nc1.fns.com (Ned M. Kazi)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Looking for Used PBX/VMX On-Sale Publications/Mags.
Organization: Fujitsu Network Switching
X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 688, Message 8 of 13

I am trying to obtain names/addressess/telephone numbers of any
magazines/trade publications/horse traders which would list used
PBX/Voice Mail machines for sale.  I am sure there are some
news-paper-type-format publications which lists telecom equipment
which sre used or on sale etc.etc.  I would appreciate if someone
could supply me with name/addressess/telephone number of such
publications.


Please email:  uunet!mcnc!fns-nc1!nmk
or if unable call 919-790-3393 
Thank You.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 01:43:30 GMT
From: lchiu@animal.gcs.co.nz (Laurence Chiu)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: 911 Emergency Service Instead of 999    
Organization: GCS Limited, Wellington, New Zealand
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X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 710, Message 6 of 11

In article <telecom12.695.4@eecs.nwu.edu> mandarin@cix.clink.co.uk
writes:

> John Perkins writes:

>>  It's been possible to dial 999 from almost any telephone in the UK to get
>>  emergency help since at least the 1940's (when I was a kid).  I've often
>>  thought it would have been nice if this had been adopted as a world-wide
>>  standard and it puzzles me why AT&T chose to use 911 when they must have
>>  been aware of the UK system.

> Well, you'll get an embryonic World standard when Europe adopt a new
> code, 112, to replace the UK's 999 and all the other country
> variations in Europe.

> Will Bellcore follow suit?  I doubt it.  112 is one of the easiest
> codes to MISdial ... a very bad choice made for what may be political
> reasons.

Well in New Zealand the code is 111. We adopted the UK standard 999 in
position on the rotary dial but since our dials are numbered
(clockwise) 0123456789 and the UK and US is 0987654321 then their 999
became our 111.  I always thought it had to do with blind dialing 0
i.e. you could feel the left-most hole and move your finger up one
hole.  111 on the Uk/US dial or 999 on the NZ dial is too easy to dial
-> wrong numbers.  With pushbutton dialing all this is no longer
germane. How can 112 be any easier to misdial than another number
sequence like 445 or 779?


Laurence Chiu    lchiu@animal.gcs.co.nz
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 00:15:14 GMT
From: lloyd@Axecore.COM (Lloyd Buchanan)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Information Wanted: DID and NT Norstar
Organization: Axe Core Investors, Inc.
X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 712, Message 3 of 14

My company just moved from a huge castle served by a Rolm 9751 PBX
into a small office served by a NT Norstar system.  In order to retain
our phone numbers, we moved our DID service with us. (same CO)

In general, I am a highly satisfied customer of the Norstar/Startalk
system.

One little question though:

Callers to our DID lines hear a brief dial-tone-like tone, followed by
a pause, followed by a ring.  Where does that dial-tone come from?  Is
this bad programming of the Norstar?  CO? What is "wink start" mean?

Somebody once posted an excellent description of how DID service
works, which I lost.  If anyone has that, I would greatly appreciate
it.


Thanks in advance.

Lloyd Buchanan               lloyd@Axecore.COM
Axe Core Investors           uupsi!axecore!lloyd
580 White Plains Road 	     (914) 333-5226 (phone)
Tarrytown,  NY  10591-6834   (914) 333-5208 (FAX)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 13:09:28 GMT
From: twilhite@nyx.cs.du.edu (Timothy R. Wilhite)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Looking For ISDN Newsgroup
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 704, Message 8 of 11

I know that recently a newsgroup for ISDN was established.  What is the
name of the newsgroup?  Thanks in advance.

 -timothy r. wilhite


[Moderator's Note: Please email responses to Mr. Wilhite.  PAT]
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 08:40:53 GMT
From: elizabec@sfu.ca (Elizabeth Fong Wah Chan)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: PC-based Automated Messaging Systems Information Request
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 692, Message 5 of 8

Get a copy of {Voice Processing Magazine}. You may call them at
800-638-1376.


Good luck,

Louie


[Moderator's Note: *Why* should we get a copy of the magazine? Was
there some article of particular interest?  Were we to obtain any
certain issue?   PAT]
Date: 08 Sep 92 19:58:43 EDT
From: Ben Black <76672.2564@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Help With Motorola Advisor
Organization: TELECOM Digest
X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 698, Message 10 of 12

If you can't find help locally, try the Broadcast Professionals forum
on Compuserve. There is quite a bit of message traffic there about
pagers, plus the man who designed many of Motorola's paging products
hangs out there.


Ben
From: DHORVATH@PENNSAS.UPENN.EDU (David Horvath)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: How to be Listed in the Internet White Pages
Date: 13 Sep 92 16:06:36 GMT
Organization: TELECOM Digest
X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 708, Message 4 of 11

There have been some posts that suggest that the NIC will register
general Internet users in a "White Pages" directory. According to the
following, that just isn't so:


*** Forwarding note from SMTP    --PENNSAS  09/11/92 10:27 ***

 Subject: Re: Internet white pages
 To: DHORVATH@PENNSAS.UPENN.EDU (David Horvath)
 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 10:27:15 EDT
 Cc: confirm@nic.ddn.mil (Confirm Role)


> Please send me information on adding this address to the white
> pages. I'd also like information on accessing the white pages
> through e-mail or FTP.

Hello,

It has been the NIC's policy to only register Internet users who are
points of contacts for domains, networks, hosts, and gateways.  We
appreciate your patience and look forward to assisting you with your
networking needs in the future.


Sincerely yours,

Network Information Center
From: stapleton@misvax.mis.arizona.edu (Dr. Ross Alan Stapleton)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Volume of Telecom Question
Date: 8 Sep 92 03:56:00 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona MIS Department
X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 689, Message 1 of 19

For a paper I'm writing on export controls and information, I'd like
to present a quick summary of the growth of telecommunications over
the past several decades.  I've seen some overview articles (there was
a two-pager in the {Whole Earth Review} a few issues back), but could
someone from this most august forum provide some referenced figures
(or pointers to where I could find them) on:

  - Growth in number of domestic calls completed (US);

  - Growth in number of international calls (either with the US and
    rest of the world, or total internationally, or both);

  - Growth in bandwidth or calls completed to interesting places like
    Moscow, or Cuba, or Iran, etc.

I apologize if this is contained in a FAQ file (and I'm scanning
around on my hard disk for the FTP address for the archives ... darn
this Internet murkiness), and I look forward to responses.


Ross


[Moderator's Note: The Telecom Archives are available using anonymous
ftp lcs.mit.edu.  When connected, you would 'cd telecom-archives'. But
to answer your question, I do not believe any files there at this time
have the information you are seeking.   PAT]
Date: 06 Sep 92 03:44:47 GMT
From: n3hnr@hpb.cis.pitt.edu (Jason Galanter)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: TIE 820 Phone System For Sale or Trade
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 686, Message 6 of 6

I have a TIE 820 phone system for sale.  It includes the following
components:

TIE 820 Series-4 KSU
1 ETSU-D Series-3
1 EICU-B Series-4
4 ESTU-C Series-2
1 ESTU-A Series 5
1 ECMU-D Series-5
1 EDTU-A Series-4
2 ECOU-C Series 3
TIE 820 Power supply unit
14 W-820 Telephone sets
1 1236 Display console

The power cable that connects the KSU to the Power supply is missing,
however I assume that this is probably one of the least expensive
components of the system.  No reasonable offer refused.

Contact Jason @ n3hnr@hpb.cis.pitt.edu or 412-521-6042

Jason Galanter / N3HNR     n3hnr@hpb.cis.pitt.edu 
322 Mall Blvd., Suite 306  galanter+@pitt.edu 
Monroeville, PA 15146      (412) 521-6042
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 14:18:15 GMT
From: trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: USWest - Helloooo, is Anyone in There?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 702, Message 6 of 9

aburt@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (Andrew Burt) writes:

> Today I just read in the {Rocky Mt. News} that it will be $15/month +
> $.15/minute for -- are you ready -- nothing more than an on-line
> phonebook.  (You get software, or for $300 flat or $12/month more, a
> simple terminal.)  Supposedly just unveiled for Minneapolis.

> Excuse me, but have we entered the 1970's yet?

    Obviously US West hasn't ... $.15/min was pretty much a standard
rate for a lot of things on CommunityLink here in Omaha as well, and
it bombed bigtime, rightfully so.

    When US West first brought in CommunityLink, they gave our ACM
chapter a demonstration of the features.  We were impressed -- finally
something to get telecommunications and useful computers into the
hands of the masses!  We envisioned the French Minitel thing all over
again, here.

    Then US West priced the whole damn thing completely out of range
of all but the richest users, and anyone that rich also has a good
change of being PC-literate and will see the system for what it is,
the computer version of 1-900 or 976.

    The /lowest/ fees on the system were $.05/minute, and that was
charged for services like the Joslyn Art Museum's calendar, which I
could read at the building for free or call a telephone touchtone
system and get for free.  More standard were rates like $.10 or
$.15/min.

    As if this weren't bad enough, we were expected to do this while
reducing our SVGA displays to the equivalent of a Timex-Sinclair ZX81.
Or worse yet, pay money for a Minitel terminal which wasn't even able
to call other systems decently.

    Looks like they're at it again!


    Tim Russell   Omaha, NE   trussell@unomaha.edu
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 04:25:52 GMT
From: dave@westmark.com (Dave Levenson)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Voice Message Service
Organization: Westmark, Inc.
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X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 709, Message 3 of 12

In article <telecom12.693.2@eecs.nwu.edu>, john@zygot.ati.com (John
Higdon) writes:

[ regarding COCOTS which provide message store and forward services ]

> There have been COCOTs doing this in some areas for well over two
> years. Of course, they are only able to do this on long distance calls
> since the COCOT operator has absolutely no local access other than
> dial tone. The LEC has interim access and can manipulate the call,
> local or not.

There are some COCOTS in the Hoboken, NJ, railroad station which
provide message store-and-forward on local calls.  How do they do
this?  Apparently, the store and forward is done entirely within the
telephone set.  I sent myself a message, and when it was delivered two
hours later, the Caller*ID that accompanied the delivery was the
number of the COCOT I had placed the original call from.

The telephone sets are the ones with yellow LCD displays just below
the coin-slot that display the price of a call after you've dialed it,
and then suggest that you might want to leave a message, if you get a
busy signal, or if you hang up without getting answer supervision.


Dave Levenson		Internet: dave@westmark.com
Westmark, Inc.		UUCP: {uunet | rutgers | att}!westmark!dave
Warren, NJ, USA		Voice: 908 647 0900  Fax: 908 647 6857
Date: 12 Sep 92 17:17:18 EDT
From: Toby Nixon <tnixon@hayes.com>
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: How do YOU Use "Break" Signals?
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA
X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 704, Message 4 of 11

I am researching the current applications for the "break" (continuous
spacing) condition in start/stop (async) communications.
Specifically, I am trying to determine the importance of supporting
break (and preserving the length of the break) in various protocols
that carry async data across different environments.

Do you use break?  What for?  How important is it to you? Do you know
how long a break needs to be in your application for it to be
recognized? Are there any alternatives to using break, such that if
breaks were intercepted or not transferred, you could still make
efficient use of the application?

If you would like to respond, please do so by mail directly to
tnixon@hayes.com.  If anyone is interested in a summary of the
responses, please let me know by mail.  Thanks very much in advance!


Toby Nixon, Principal Engineer      | Voice   +1-404-840-9200  Telex 401243420
Hayes Microcomputer Products, Inc.  | Fax     +1-404-447-0178  CIS   70271,404
P.O. Box 105203                     | BBS     +1-404-446-6336  AT&T    !tnixon
Atlanta, Georgia  30348             | UUCP uunet!hayes!tnixon  Fido   1:114/15
USA                                 | Internet                tnixon@hayes.com