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From: michaelh@netcom.com (Michael Hernandez)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: 49er Notes
Keywords: Unsigned
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:54:24 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Just a few notes on the 49ers training camp:
 
UNSIGNED:  The NINERS have 9 unsigned veterans:

Jerry Rice WR
Keith DeLong ILB
Brent Jones TE
Jamie Williams TE
Mike Sherrard WR
Larry Roberts DE
Steve Wallace OT
Michael Walter ILB
Joe Prokop P

The obvious concern is that Jerry Rice and the front office
come to terms soon.  Jerry wants 12 million over 4 years 
guareented.  The biggest stumbling block to signing is the 
request for a guareented contract.  Look for this negotiation
to be a protracted one.

Steve Wallace is very close to signing, and since he is the 
left tackle(the protector of Joe Montana), the coaching staff
is eager to bring him in.  Larrry Roberts is a key to the 
49er defensive plans, and the coaching staff would like him
in ASAP.

JOE MONTANA:  Continues to workout lightly.  He does throw
every day, and yesterday,(JULY 22 , 1992), participated in a full
pads blocking exercize with the first team; NO PASS RUSH was
allowed.

RUNNING BACK:  Sheldon Canely pulled a hamstring and is out.
A four player competition for the tailback spot with DEX still
listed as 1, but HOT HOT on his heels are AMP LEE(R) and 
RICKY WATTERS.  The fourth contender, KEITH HENDERSON, was 
the niners leading rusher last year, and the niners are
giving him every opportunity to become the starter.

OTHER NOTES:  Michael Carter, NG, will not be allowed to
practice until he gets his weight down.  Ted Washington
and Jerome Brown (NG AND DL) have impressed in camp and
could become staters.  Dana Hall, rookie free safety has 
all but been given the starting assignment.

I will stop here.  Many other developments, but they will
be covered in a later post.

GO NINERS...michael
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From: exujeff@exu.ericsson.se (Jeff Thompson)
Subject: Re: Bobby Humphrey
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:19:40 GMT

In article <92209.084150JGARLITZ@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> JGARLITZ@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:
>Path: exucom.exu.ericsson.se!ericom!sunic!mcsun!uunet!sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!convex!linac!unixhub!slacvm!jgarlitz
>From: JGARLITZ@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
>Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
>Subject: Bobby Humphrey
>Message-ID: <92209.084150JGARLITZ@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
>Date: 27 Jul 92 16:41:50 GMT
>Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
>Lines: 5

>Does anybody know what is going on with Bobby Humphrey?  Has he showed for
>training camp?  Is he going to try to work out a contract with Denver now
>that Gaston Green has been signed for another year?

>--Paul Garlitz        JGARLITZ@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDUC
I beleive he signed Sunday with Denver for 4 years.
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From: dmg@al.cs.wm.edu (Daniel German)
Subject: Reuben Mayes 
Organization: College of William & Mary, founded 1693
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:00:43 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.174152.4009@usho93.hou281.chevron.com>, hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde) writes:
|> In article <76581@ut-emx.uucp> chrispy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christopher Palacios) writes:
|> >
|> >I would like your help on how the following players are doing in camp.
|> >
|> >Reuben Mayes

|> 
|> I wish I could help.  I'm waiting for a response to the earlier request
|> for Saints training camp info!  The Houston papers cover nothing but the
|> Earlers.  I do know that Reuben Mayes is no longer a Saint.  Where is he?
|> 
|> -- 

|> James Clyde     LSU '91   |                   -- Frisco Darlin

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Reuben Mayes is a Seahawk this season. He was acquired in a pre-draft trade for
the Seahawks's 4th pick.


Daniel M German


GO SEAHAWKS.


"nada tenemos que esperar,
sino de nosotros mismos"

Mario Benedetti.
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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: VIKINGS - Cut Joey Browner?
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:03:24 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.232639.10882@uwm.edu> melissa@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Melissa C Merrill) writes:
>
> I saw on ESPN that Joey Browner has failed his Physical and has been cut. What
> is the story behind this? Wow, Minnesota is really going through a youth
> movement. Any info from Minnesota?
>
>							Mark
>							Go Vikings!
>

I hear they'll be holding JAY-VEE tryouts sometime during camp.   :-)
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From: kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lu)
Subject: New York Giants
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 06:02:55 GMT

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From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Saints News
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:03:48 GMT
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Organization: Chevron


More bits from Dave.  (Sorry, I know its not of "BROWNS NEWS" quality --
or EXHAUSTIVE LENGTH anyway -- but we're gettin' there!) 

********************

Turnbull's transition to outside linebacker is going smoothly
(successor to Rickey Jackson?)

Wesley Carroll made a spectacular catch today. The camp arm, Verdugo,
is impressing people.

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From: michaelh@netcom.com (Michael Hernandez)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Weighed picks
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:50:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <Brs0ws.5nF@watserv1.waterloo.edu> imprint@watserv1.waterloo.edu (IMPRINT -- UW's Student Newspaper) writes:
>The variable that determines success in football pools should be the
>ability to pick the outcome of football games accurately.  Weighted
>systems should not be necessary to determine this.
>
>Peter Brown
>-- 
>
Agreed!  I do like using the spreads, but I can live without them.
The object of the pool is as you stated: "picking the outcome of
football games accurately".

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From: rjk@DINO.QCI.BIOCH.BCM.TMC.EDU (Raymond K)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Dallas Kickers...
Date: 21 Jul 1992 17:27:35 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Howard Hughes Medical Institute

In article <1992Jul21.151930.13592@aero.org> mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw) writes:
>
>More News on the Kickers!!	
>
>How about some hard numbers from the scrimmage on Sunday?
>
>             44 yards      49 yards       53 yards
>Daluiso       2-3           0-4             1-3          3-10
>Elliot        1-3           3-3             2-3          6-9
>
>Elliot apparently has at least a Ruzek/Willis type leg, 2 53 yarders
>is a fair achievement.  Elliot looks much better and in command
>of the position, Daluiso is really struggling (except for with
>his distance).  JJ expressed confidence in Daluiso.

Wow!  I thought Daluiso would have a big edge in this battle, but
from the looks of things, Elliot is holding his own.  Having a K with
Ruzek/Willis ability wouldn't be so bad, but maybe JJ wants the guy
with the strong leg because of his kickoff ability.  Should be a good
training camp battle.

>4) Hennings had a sack (along with Hill, Butts, and 
>Lett). (a couple of 1/2 sacks there...)  He also looked
>gassed toward the end of the session.  No real news about
>him, there are DL playing much better.

Sounds like there are a lot of talented young defensive linemen
in Austin.  I hope this bodes well for the line this year!!

>5)  The statement was made again "the MLB job is Robert
>Jone's to lose"

He's my choice for this year's impact rookie, for several reasons.
First, he's going to get plenty of playing time because of the void
at MLB.  Other rookies have had a tough time getting enough action.
Second, the Dallas D tends to funnel things towards the MLB, so Jones
will get plenty of chances to show his stuff.  Third, he's got more 
athletic ability than either Del Rio or Lockhart had, so he should be
able to get to more plays and possibly make some things happen.  The
only part that he's got to work on is the mental aspect; knowing the
defense and reading plays.  It's really beneficial that he's in camp
on time, so he gets the chance to let everything sink in.

>6)  Erik Williams is still too green to play LT on the 
>offensive line.  Although he has been a terror on the
>right side, he is right handed and is not suited to LT.
>According to the Cowboys, the trasition takes a long time.
>He will backup Newton on the rght until he feels better
>about it.

I'm hoping some of the young OL show enough promise to make
the team this year.


Ray    GO COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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From: jjn@cbjjn.cb.att.com (Jeff Nappi)
Subject: Re: Browns News - July 20th
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:07:21 GMT

In article <19491@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, dkl@cs.arizona.edu (David K. Lowenthal) writes:
|> What a joke!  You've got to be kidding.  HA! The Browns winning the division.
|> Right, what a team they have, it is just full of total superstars.  They're
|> so good, that last year they managed to lose to the Bengals once and the
|> other time needed a last play field goal to win.  And you say that they
|> will not lose to Houston this year!  They played their best game of the
|> season at Houston last year, way over their heads, and STILL lost.  Houston
|> typically loses one home game a year.  And that will be to the BROWNS???
|> Give me a break.  I would not be surprised to see the Bengals beat the
|> Browns once this year, and I expect the Steelers to beat the Browns at
|> least once.  But of course, you give yourself a way out by saying it
|> could be based on luck, so when the Browns choke you will blame it on luck.

Well I won't go as far as saying the Browns will beat Houston twice this
year but they are certainly capable of beating them. I still think Houston
is the team to beat in the division. As far as the Browns playing way over
there heads, I think they played exactly where they should have, the Browns
were crushed by injuries last year on defense yet they still kept them in
most of there games. Houston beat the Browns in a close first game by supereor
talent, in the second game the Browns lost it do to a missed field goal late
in the game. If you really watched the games between the Browns and Oilers
you have got to see that the Browns are a improving team. As a Houston fan
you have got to hope this team does something real soon, I see so many
similarities in this team and the Browns when they were on top, Houston
is aging in many key areas and may not be able to recover if any injuries
occur this year. Warren Moon is still one of the top QB in the league but
age is definitly catching up and rumors are he is not a happy camper with
Houstons front office. It is going to be very diffulcult for Houston to
find someone as capable as Moon to run Pardee(sp) high octane offense. As
far as getting beat by the Steelers and Bengals, I don't know how long you
have been following this division but I have been following it for a long
time and nothing is a given no matter how good you are. 

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Columbus Bell Labs
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From: tkelsey@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (todd.p.kelsey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Packer Signings
Date: 23 Jul 92 12:14:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbfsb.1992Jul23.121411.436
Organization: AT&T

The Packers signed 3rd round pick Robert Brooks (WR - South Carolina)
and 4th round pick Edgar Bennett (RB - Florida State) yesterday.
This leaves Terrel Buckley and Mark D'onafrio as the only unsigned
players.  According to the Chicago Tribune, Buckley's "demands"
are now a contract larger than 3rd pick Sean Gilbert (5 years/7.5 mil).
The Packers are offering 5 years/5.7 mil.  Now that Buckley no longer
feels he should be the highest paid draft pick, perhaps they can 
make some progress.

Does anyone now where the negotiations with D'onafrio stand or 
which vetrans are unsigned?

Todd
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From: josh@loglady.ninds.nih.gov (Joshua (Summer student))
Subject: Re: Tommy Vardell Signs 
Reply-To: josh@loglady.ninds.nih.gov (Joshua (Summer student))
Organization: National Inst. of Health, NINDS, LMCN
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:27:26 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.135847.3948@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne) writes:
|> 
|> Tommy Vardell signed a four-year deal and reported to the Browns
|> training camp on Sunday night.
|> 
|> -- 
|> ===============Joel Tscherne:  ac985@cleveland.freenet.edu===============


With Tommy into camp early he'll be ready with the team for the season, and the Browns are going to be UnStopAble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Look for great things from the Browns this year!!!!!

1992 - Year of the Dawg!!!

GO    B R O W N S!!!!!!!!!!!

josh@loglady.ninds.nih.gov
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From: josh@alw.nih.gov (joshua yulish)
Subject: Browns fans?
Keywords: browns fan club
Organization: National Inst. of Health, DCRT, CSL
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:45:15 GMT

Are there any Browns fans at U. of Illinois?


If you are write me at lush@uiuc.edu

GO BROWNS!!!!!!!!1
From: aa05@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ABDULMALIK A. ALHUSSEINI)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Cowboys training camp [1. WR's]
Date: 25 Jul 92 18:53:31 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I'll appreciate it if someone tells us how the wide receivers are doing in
camp:
    (1) Is Irvin still holding out?

    (2) I read in Sporting News that coach JJ is happy with Harper's progress.
    Does that mean he'll catch more than 20 balls for more than one TD?

    (3) Ace Wright... I read in Dallas Cowboys Weekly that he has a renewed
    confidence because he won the NFL fastest man contest (he ran 4.09). Is
    he going to mature as a wideout in this camp?
    Someone on the net suggested using Wright as a CB. I think it is a good
    idea because the Ace doesn't have to catch the ball.

    (4) J Smith... A cowboy fan on the net (the cool ice) said that rooki J.
    Smith broke his tibia and will be out for 3-4 weeks. Any new reports?

    (5) Kmart... is going to get more playing time.

    (6) How about other prospects like CFL's Gerald Alpin?

Thanks.... AAA.....
From: aa05@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ABDULMALIK A. ALHUSSEINI)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Chad Hennings of the Cowboys?
Date: 24 Jul 92 23:58:07 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Can Chad Hennings rush the passer?
Yes he had 24 sacks in 1987 with the Air Force but that was five years ago and
do not ask against whome.
A training camp report on the net says that Hennings had one sack but the
report didn't mention anything about his consistency and overall condition.
I'll appreciate more detailed info. as the camp progresses. Boy... imagine
what will happen to the defence if he produces 1/2 the sacks he produced in
1987.

AAA....
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From: gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon Storga)
Subject: Montana might not make the first game
Organization: Stay Awake Software
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 19:38:32 GMT


According to radio reports in the Bay Area, Montana is having some trouble
with his throwing arm.  Seems he's lost a lot of zip on his passes.  One
player commented that he was "throwing ints"  meaning that if he threw
that way in a game it would be intercepted.

I may have to ammend my original prediction for his retirement at the end
of the upcoming season to maybe the beginning of this one.  So much for
them trading Young for a quality running back.


Gordon
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From: drxmann@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dustin R. Christmann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Teams You Love To Hate (was: Favorite Football Teams---Results)
Date: 25 Jul 92 21:17:31 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <2116@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch) writes:
>Yep, it's always easiest to hate the guys on top.  Well, sorry, Tim, the
>49ers have to step aside, because the 'Boys are back again. :^)

Yeah yeah yeah.  All I can say is that they'd better not start getting fitted
for rings.  A hell of a lot can happen between now and January.

>>PS. When i'm not rooting for the Niners, I'm mostly just hoping to see
>>good football.  They only other team I'd call a favorite is the Raiders.
>
>What?!?  You hated the Eagles because of Ryan, and now hate the Falcons
>because of Glanville, but nothing for Al Davis?  The Raiders' idiotic "bad
>boy" image is so pathetic that the only thing more comical is the Falcons'
>attempt to copy it.  And now they have the ultimate weenie-trying-to-be-tough,
>Eric Dickerson, on their team.  What a crybaby.  Just one more reason to
>root against them.  Of course, that shouldn't be too hard this year.

Yeah, but the big difference is that Al Davis owns three Super Bowl rings. The
Raiders have always talked good games, then backed the talk up.  Why?  Because
Al Davis sets this tone from the top.  Compare this to Norman Braman and who-
ever owns the Falcons (Rankin Smith?).

IMHO, the NFL would benefit from a lot more Al Davises.

The Falcons are posers.  The Raiders are the Real Deal and the real America's
Team.

GO OILERS
GO RAIDERS (except when they're playing the Oilers)
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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: CFL vs NFL: Why different rules?
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:20:23 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.093537.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca> msherrick@kean.ucs.mun.ca (Mike Sherrick) writes:
>I have always wondered why there are major differences in CFL and NFL 
>rules (3 vs 4 downs, backfield in motion OK or not, etc.). I believe 
>football is the only sport with such large inter-country differences. 
>Why? Another example of Canadian concern for self identity? Politics? 
>Or is there a sensible reason that I don't know about?
>
>Mike

The way it was explained to me is that  NFL football  and CFL football are
of the same genotype but are different species  (if one wanted to describe
them as one would organisms).  Both share a common parent, Rugby, but each
evolved  (and continues to evolve)  along their own path.  In other words,
there is no concerted effort to MAKE the games different, they ARE differ-
ent!  The natural extension of this argument, cross breeding  (ie, putting
forth a concerted effort to make the games similar),  would produce  a hy-
bred game,  unlike either,  and,  most likely,  BOTH games  would be lost.

Viva la' differance!
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Subject: Re: Idea for Pool (spreads)
From: desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...)
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:31:04 MST
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Univ. of Arizona...,TSN, AZ...
Nntp-Posting-User: desert

In article <1992Jul21.172647.29175@colorado.edu>, davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood) writes:
> Someone just sent me what I think is a great idea for the pool.  Please
> comment.
> 
> "If you decide not to go with the spreads you also might want to try to
> let the individual people weight each game from 1 to #games that week.
> The weight will be the number of points awarded for a correct pick."
> 
> In other words, you take the pick you are most confident about and give
> it 14 points.  Take the one you are least confident about and give it
> one point.  Then give the other 12 games the other 12 values (assuming
> there were 14 games that week).  Thus you could score as many as 105
> points if you got all the games correct.
> 
> I really like this idea, please let me know what you think!  (again,
> respond to this post or mail with "spreads" in the subject)
> 

This idea has been used in the college pools in rec.sports.football.college for
the past few years... The name of the person conducting the pools escapes me 
now.  If i remember, i'll send you a note...

Another Cowboy fan...

Ali...
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From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Subject: More Bronco Blues
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:06:31 GMT

WR Vance Johnson has a probable tear in his shoulder.  He could be out for
a few months.  Denver is VERY short at wide receiver after trading Nattiel
(sp?), and losing Young and Johnson to injury.  They basically have Mark
Jackson (very good), Stanley Morgan (very old) and a bunch of rookies.
Another WR from last year (his name is on the tip of my tongue) hurt his
hand playing basketball this summer.

With the loss of "The Vance" the Broncos are also without a punt returner.
Look for some rookies waiting under the ball Monday night against SF.

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