From: shamshoo@shelley.u.washington.edu (Shams Hasan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Massacre in Kashmir
Date: 12 Jan 1993 04:15:39 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: world
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Summary: Islamic Republic of Kashmire.....
Keywords: Hang loose on the Caboose !

In article <C0p68v.M7L@acsu.buffalo.edu> v122npej@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Sareer A Fazili) writes:
>Strange how the original subject of postings always seems to get lost as
>tangents start to take over! Unfortunately for the Kashmiris living under
>Indian Occupation, such grandiose and eloquent prose demonstrated on this net
>by the GOI sympathizers cannot be transferred over to those in IOK wielding the
>guns as the women and brides of Kashmir are tortured and raped.
>
>It is really easy to conjure up stories and say that they are, or were proved
>to be false, but I would like to see or hear of a bibliographic reference that
>says explicitly that the gang rape that occured in Kunan Poshpora, and later in
>Sopore, and also that the firing on the procession of Moulvi Farooq's funeral
>were faked. The New York Times reported on all these incidents, and something
>tells me that if these were "mistakenly" reported as true, then a retraction
>would have been printed with an aside claiming that new evidence argued
>against what was originally reported. Kashmiris in the US are extremely well
>informed, and the news that we get from IOK is very accurate. Unless one can
>prove that a news report was false, or that evidence was presented to it's
>contrary, I would hope that grandstanding such as this would not take place.
>
>In conclusion, the FACTS are that GOI is supporting a military presence of over
>400,000 soldiers.Don't believe it? I am sure all interested parties can peruse
>through early editions of the NYT from Jan., Feb.,and March of 1990 to get the
>exact number. Your local Congressman can get the info for you too.
>And the press is not allowed in Kashmir. Ed Gargan's article was allowed under
>his guise as a tourist! Disbelievers are again welcome to question the US State
>Dept., their local Congressman, or even call the AP/UPI and ask who their
>Kashmir correspondent is. They are allowed to maintain only a New Delhi
>correspondent these days. It is all in black and white. I have no need to offer
>more proofs than what I have stated repeatedly in the past. India is showing
>her face to the world, and the world is starting to see it. If not the US, then
>UK will be the first to aid Kashmiris in their struggle to freedom.
>
>
>Sareer A. Fazili
>
>P.S. And I am not one to take kindly to personal attacks either. I think that
>Mr. Deb Chatterjee should stick to issues and not flowery prose and garnished
>attacks on others. 

Come on now, Sareer, this the US of A is'nt it ? Even Bhangies/Chamaars save up
enough to come here nowadays. Used to be the valyaatt or West was a destinationto acquire knowledge, and good manners. hmmm, such nostalgia !

Nowadays, the reason to go to the west is purely economical, and we find all
kinds, poor but decent sorts like me, and then you have Bhangis/Chamaars sorts......
  
I am dumbfounded as to the fear that he has of Muslims and
>Islam.Zealotry shows it's face in all other religions, or has he already
>forgotten the Ayodha mosque incident? 

Actually, the worse fear is mis-guided by a post that mentioned "Castrate the
Hindoos" in some sentence about something I donot remember, by a muslim. And,
scince then, we see a shiver run down every posting by the honorable Bhangi #2.

Best Regards,
Shams Hasan.