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From: rafal@utstat.uucp (Rafal Kustra (summer student))
Subject: Re: Disk corruption problem (Was: Wierd behavior with 0.98).
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:03:31 GMT

In article <3797@ra.nrl.navy.mil> eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil (Eric Youngdale) writes:
>	Yes, I think I have an idea about what is going on.  A week ago, 3
>people reported an inode corruption problem with scsi disks, and the one thing
>that they all had in common was that they each had more than one scsi disk
>drive.  From the looks of it, I can now say that we have a fourth case.  This
>problem has been observed both with an Adaptec 1542 and a ST02.
>
>	Currently I think that there is a bug of some kind which has to do with
>more than one scsi disk drive on the system at one time.  What I do not know is
>if a multi-scsi-disk system is always unstable or not.  Basically I would like
>to hear from anyone who is using more than one scsi disk without problems.
>
>	Also, I would be interested in knowing if there are any users with
>two IDE drives, and I would like to know if that configuration is stable

I'm using 2 105 Mb Kalok drives. It is stable as a rock
(.97pl4, X, did compilations of kernel, ghost stuff, a
lots more.) I had a internal compiler error once when
compiling gdb, but reinstalation of gcc fixed it.
I remember having similar problem as above, but it turned
out to be my stupidity: I was using -f option to make
thinking it was the force option, and was giving an
argument to it, which turned out to be some binary file.
Of course, make tried to read that file and I found
myself rebooting, only to find Megs gone.
Fsck would report XX zone used,nofile uses it, thousand
times.
I have no problems now.

					Rafal

>-Eric
>-- 
>Eric Youngdale
>eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil


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From: jars@milton.u.washington.edu (Juan Rodriguez-Sero)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:23:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Sep28.212342.26087
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <KETIL.92Sep28210509@spurv.ii.uib.no> ketil@ii.uib.no writes:
>Ever seen gcc compared to other C's in the market?  I haven't.

I have, in "Unix World."

Juan Antonio Rodriguez-Sero     | Those who have long enjoyed
School of Oceanography          | such privileges as we enjoy
University of Washington, WB-10 | forget in time that
Seattle, WA 98195               | men have died to win them.
jars@u.washington.edu           |
(206) 543 - 7003 (work)         |      Franklin D. Roosevelt
From: phd85@seq1.keele.ac.uk (D.H. Holden)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?
Date: 30 Sep 92 10:42:26 GMT
Organization: Keele University, England

From article <3683@key.COM>, by srj@key.COM (Scott R. Johnson):
> In article <KETIL.92Sep28210509@spurv.ii.uib.no> ketil@ii.uib.no writes:
>>
>>BUT: Perhaps we could start letter campaigns to get more coverage for
>>free software?  Mail a letter to Byte or whatever, ask for reviews etc
>>of Gnu stuff, and other free software.  
> 
> I seem to remember that Byte finally took the plunge, and is now on 
> the Internet.  Can someone grab the "dead UNIX" copy, and check it
> out?  I seem to remember seeing the line "Byte can be now reached
> on the Internet, at editors@bytepb.com" at the bottom of the editor's 
> and some of the other columns...
> 
> Maybe a kind note asking them to direct some attention to gnu.* would
> be in order? Not to mention comp.os.really_cool_OSes_that_are_that_are_
> actually_supported_by_instead_of_griped_at_by_their_users...
> 
>         U   Ack!  Scott Johnson  Amdahl Adv. Sys. srj@key.amdahl.com  623-2333

    Hi,
	 I been following this discussion with interest over the last
	 few days, I'm not a computing professional but do use computers
	 a lot, mainly mini computers, and have found BYTE to be the
	 only mainstream magazine that is not _totally_ devoted to 
	 PC's and PC concerns, although as mentioned does contain a lot
	 of this. I have been meaning to write to BYTE expressing my
	 appreciation of the coverage of non PC related issues, however
	 from the previous article I have read in this group the general
	 concensus seems to be that they are leaning more in this
	 direction (for comercial reason??). Those more eloquent and
	 knowledgeable than myself on this subject might like to make
	 a summary of the recent posting about this and send it to 
	 BYTE's internet letters address, which from the UNIX issue
	 so hotly debated is given as

	   letters@bytepb.byte.com

	   Dave
--
Dave.
phd85@uk.ac.keele.seq1
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From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: Anyone Install LINUX on a 486-33 SCSI and EISA ??
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Distribution: comp.os.linux
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:04:15 GMT

Don Bonaddio (donbon@gw.neuronet.pitt.edu) wrote:

: Has anyone installed linux on a 486-33 with a SCSI drive with Adaptec
: and an EISA bus ? 
: I can't get fdisk to find the drive !
: Any ideas ?

Which Adaptec SCSI card are you using?
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG     erc@apple.com                801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: song@iastate.edu (Chang-Hyeon Song)
Subject: X11 - Help with my ATI VGA wonder
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 20:13:15 GMT

Hi, netter.
I have installed X11v2.0, but I have failed to get X worked.
SO , I have installed X11v1.x.
but now it doesn't come with ATI card support.  
SO I borrowed Orchid Prodesigner II(ET4000) from my rootmate, then it worked on
648x480 resolution.  I am usnig SONY 1304(multiscan HG).  But for higher 
resolution, I couldn't get stable screen.  
Now, I am back with my ATI VGA wonder(OEM; with no mouse).  I have no clue to
get X working on mu linux.

I am considering buying a cheap ET4000 video in a recent future, anyboy out 
there have a list a video card that works with X (1024x768) with fair speed.
I thought Orchid Prodesigner II was a little slow with X11v1.x.
Thanks.
From: edmonds@cs.ubc.ca (Brian Edmonds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: BUGS (minor)
Date: 1 Oct 1992 17:20:24 -0700
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cobra.cs.ubc.ca

I have been running version 0.96c since it came out, and have found it
to be very stable.  I noticed a few small but consistent bugs in it,
but wanted to wait until I upgraded to see if they vanished.  Today I
upgraded to 0.98, and they're still present, so here we go:

1)  I have a terminal attached to /dev/ttys3 which I use for most of
my work (I guess I just like an ascii interface :).  Approximately
every two hours, my shell gets terminated.  Usually I'm running
screen, which apparently receives a SIGHUP, and detaches itself, so
it's not a problem except that I have to log back in and reattach.  If
it's just a shell, then I get logged out and jobs running under it
(such as kermit) get immediately terminated.  If it is just sitting at
the login prompt, login appears to terminate similarly, so over time
the prompts (and /etc/issue reissued) will scroll up the screen.  I
have no reason to suspect that my cable is faulty, as otherwise the
connection works flawlessly.

2)  I am running with four serial ports, 3 16450s and one 16550A.  The
450s work fine, and generally keep up.  I would like to use the 550A,
but it is behaving extremely strangely.  I start up kermit and talk to
the modem for a while, then I can dial, and receive the connect
message, but no data received by the modem is passed to the computer.
Data generated by the modem itself (connect msgs for example) arrive
no problem.  Could this be a problem with the chip itself, and if so,
is there a test to confirm it?  I have no trouble with exactly the
same modem on a 450 port.  An interesting and occasional side-effect
on the 550A port is that if I type enough (with no response) while
connected, the console will freeze completely:  I can't switch VCs.
I believe the terminal still works, but I haven't rigourously tested
this.

3)  This one is X, not kernel:  I'm running version 1.1.  When I leave
X, it has never restored text mode properly.  I'm usually left with a
screen that is badly out out sync horizontally, so it just looks like
snow across the screen where text is.  Should I just get a copy of 2.0,
and then report if it still doesn't work?  Have other people had this
problem fixed by 2.0?

System configuration:
    486/33 with 8M RAM, 80M IDE, 1.44M floppy.
    Tseng ET4000 SVGA card with Samatron SC-431VS 14" monitor (yawn).
    External US Robotics V.32bis/V.42bis modem.
    Ann Arbor Ambassador terminal on ttys3 at 9600 baud.

Kernel configuration:
    Linux 0.98 (very minor CAPS->CTRL and backspace patches by me).
    No SCSI, no TCP, no math emulation.
    Only minix fs, compiled with -m486.

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Brian Edmonds (MSc CompSci)                          edmonds@cs.ubc.ca
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Finally: 0.98
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:11:21 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

Sorry for being late - I can't even show any great new features in 0.98,
but at least it's out now, and available at the normal place (ie at
nic.funet.fi, pub/OS/Linux/testing/Linus).  So far there is only a
full-source version available, although I'll probably make it available
as a patch too tomorrow or so (but the patch won't contain the tcp/ip
stuff). 

0.98 is essentially the same as 0.97.pl6 - the changes are mostly:
 - tcp/ip (0.8.1) is in.  It's not compiled into the standard bootimage,
   and you'd better be on the tcpip mailing-list to use it, but it's
   there. I've been unable to test it further than just watch it
   compile...
 - extfs patch to correct the problem with big directories with holes.
 - mouse patches (ie improved detection-routines)
 - minor scsi patches (ultrastor driver change)
 - swiss keyboard
 - some serial driver patches
 - the 32mb patches are in, so if you aren't using a DMA-SCSI driver,
   and have more than 16MB physical memory, you can get it recognized.
 - edited hd.c
 - corrected core-dumping routines

I didn't get my mm patches working yet, so they'll have to wait.  The
above are almost 100% by others - I have edited some of the patches, but
there is nothing major new by me.  Most of it is minor bug-fixes, and
the only thing that might be a bit of a problem are the hd.c changes:
but I hope they'll solve more problems than they cause.  Knock wood. 

At nic.funet.fi you can currently find (a) the full sources (b) a
bootimage (US keyboard, floppy root, no tcp/ip) and (c) the protocols.h
file needed for compiling the tcp/ip directory (which should go into
/usr/include/netinet/).  I hope people try it out, and that there are no
new problems with this release. 

		Linus
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Toan Hoang   ~{ <tqhoang@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Problem with linux.  GCC report segmentation fault and dump core.
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:24:47 GMT


I am having trouble setting up my linux.  Everything in linux runs fine, but
after downloading and updating the new version of linux and the new version
of GCC, I am having trouble running GCC.  WHen ever I tried to compile a C
code, it would give me a segmentation fault and dump core, even running the
gcc alone will do so.  Another thing I notice is that, the file .login and 
.cshrc is not being read, because I have everything I set in that file is not
being initialize.  I also notice that I am using bash instead of tcsh, would
that make a difference?

Toan
From: mirons@ccs.northeastern.edu (Michael A. Irons)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Problem with man(1)
Keywords: man problem
Date: 30 Sep 92 06:34:24 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University, CCS Dept.


	I've noticed this as well. What seems to work for me is to re-make the
whatis database with /usr/lib/makewhatis. This seems to be a man bug. Also
makewhatis won't make whatis databases in other directories on the MANPATH,
only in /usr/man.

						Mike Irons

-- 

                                  Mike Irons;
                       mirons@Dworkin.CCS.Northeastern.EDU	(School)
                 mirons%minix1.uucp@MecEng.COE.Northeastern.EDU	(Home)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jk87377@cc.tut.fi (Juhana Kouhia)
Subject: Re: Who will handle publicity for Linux 1.0?
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 06:45:28 GMT


In article <4230@svin09.info.win.tue.nl> alph@win.tue.nl writes:
>nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson) writes:
>
>Just a thought: If everyone would send a letter to their favourite
>magazine, THEY'll handle the (free) publicity.

Not everyone; there's no many magazines.
We should compile a list of magazines/journals appropriate for this
kind of announcing and decide who will send the press release
to target.
If everyone would send a letter to their favourite magazine, it
may happen that the magazine will not publish anything, because
they think that we are trying to just make harm to them by sending
N+1 announces to them (after three letters they will be stroking
letters to garbage box).

Also newspapers loves titles like "Real computer operating system
reaches home computers for free". At least, our newspapers have
science&nature stories weekly.

Juhana Kouhia
From: tucker@yuppie.enet.dec.com (David Tucker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Black & white X:  how?
Date: 4 Oct 92 23:12:48 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Now I have X v1.1 going but it doesn't seem any faster than v0.1.

I don't like color.  How can I get it to run in black & white?

Also, is there anything I can do about the vt100 terminal emulation?
My keypad doesn't work right so I can't edit with EDT properly.
I have to use the ./Del key instead of <-Backspace to rubout
characters (which means it doesn't work as "select" in EDT.)

Thanks,
David
From: talley@ashleigh.Kodak.COM (Brian K. Talley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:20:25 GMT
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY

In article <1992Oct5.052222.20715@athena.mit.edu> tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) writes:
>Excuse me, but could you please take this discussion (how great the
>Aimga is) off comp.os.linux?  It doesn't seem to be related to linux at
>all, and people have been complaining about the volume of the newsgroup.
>
>Thanks!
>						- Ted
>P.S.  Why comp.os.linux.advocacy?  I could think of a much better group
>--- alt.religion.computers.  :-)

Agreed.  Discussion of Amigas in Linux newsgroups should be limited to the
Linux port to the Amiga.

As for my suggestion of creating comp.os.linux.advocacy...that was borne
out of the "discussion" regarding 386BSD and Linux (and which was better,
stronger, faster, etc.).

--Brian
__________
Brian Talley, Systems Consultant, Eastman Kodak Research Labs, Rochester, NY
talley@acadia.kodak.com

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: kennu@mits.mdata.fi (Kenneth Falck)
Subject: Re: Linux 0.97 PL 6 detecting bogus bus mice
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 00:55:18 GMT
Keywords: Keyboard, VT100, VT220

In article <Bv54wE.H6C@ucunix.san.uc.edu> zuazaga@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga) writes:
>In article <1992Sep25.095838.28799@prime.mdata.fi> kennu@mits.mdata.fi (Kenneth Falck) writes:
>>One thing that makes dialing BBS's difficult is the new
>>VT220 (?) function key codes; most BBS's fullscreen editors
>>want the old ANSI/VT100 codes. I haven't tried to hack
>>C-Kermit yet, though, I wonder can you translate those
>>keys easily... And the same goes for MicroEMACS. I have
>>a man page for kermit which I haven't read yet, but none
>>for uemacs.
>
>Sigh, I thought this might happen.  I'm not 100% certain I got the
>keys right, especially for 86 key or old AT style keyboards.  Which
>keys are you trying to send?  As far as I could determine, the VT100
>series only has 4 arrow keys.  These send the same codes now as they
>did before, at least on the separate arrow keys on 102 key keyboards
>(PS/2 style keyboards).  

Well, actually, after closer examination, it seems that only
the Home-key has been "broken" (with PCBoard's FSE), only the
arrow keys worked before in addition to home, and now only
the arrow keys work.

I don't know what sort of a standard these BBS editors usually 
follow, but I just wish I'd find a way to use them with ease...
(Not typing e.g. Esc[K manually to get to the end of the line...)

Also, it seems that the bind-to-key command in MicroEMACS takes
max. 2 keystrokes; you can't do bind-to-key beginning-of-line M-[[1~.
Maybe you can redefine the FN< and FN> etc. symbols, I still have
the recently downloaded manual of MicroEMACS to read...

Anyway, I suppose there's nothing wrong with the kernel, I
just over-reacted when the old editor setups didn't work...

-- 
kennu@mits.mdata.fi
From: bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: SCSI tape/drives on 2nd controller
Date: 1 Oct 92 23:35:03 GMT
Organization: Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA

I currently boot and operate off of an MFM harddisk, but have 2 disks
and an Archive Viper tape drive which runs off of an ST01 controller,
which is a secondary controller.

Under DOS, I load a driver in config.sys which recognizes the card, and 
places the drives on the device list for dos to access. All works very 
well in dos. 

Is there a way to get linux to recognize these multiple units on the
second controller, and allow them to be resources available to linux?

--- 
Bob Kirkpatrick <bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us>
Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: joel@wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: 8 bit console
Keywords: kernel keyboard french patch
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:04:08 GMT

What I was really asking is if the >kernel< is 8-bit clean.
E.g., can I use an 8-bit clean version of Emacs (which I have) to make
filenames with all 8-bits?

-Joel
(joel@wam.umd.edu)



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From: pep@wicked.demon.co.uk (Phil Packer)
ReplyTo: pep@wicked.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: Where is <sys/syscall.h> in Linux?
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: cppnews $Revision: 1.16 $
Organization: Heart Of Gold Audio
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:37:03 +0000


In article <JRS.92Sep16221151@lepton.world.std.com> jrs@world.std.com (Rick Sladkey) writes:

> >>>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 1992 13:49:03 GMT, lmfken@lmf.ericsson.se
> >>>>> (Kenneth Osterberg) said:
> 
> Kenneth> I'm also trying to port an application using syscall(), and
> Kenneth> it needs it because it redefines some functions which reside
> Kenneth> in the standard libraries. Eg. it defines an own version of
> Kenneth> select(), and within that select() it want's to do the real
> Kenneth> system call. (btw. the app. I'm talking about is the XView
> Kenneth> toolkit)
> 
> A lot of people have been asking for XView.  I have the Remote Procedure
> Call library compiled and working if you need it.
> 
[code fragment deleted]
> 
> --
> Rick Sladkey
> jrs@world.std.com
> 
> 

Yes, Rick, I'd be very interested in that. Could you upload it somewhere?


Thanks a lot...

Phil


ps Also, thanks to everyone who has contributed to Linux... It's a great system!

pps It's also very infectious; I seem to have most of my department at work 
playing with Linux currently! 



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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:38:54 -0400 
From: Stefan Monnier <osoelgaultier+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: NJ/SML
	<1992Sep29.203910.2837@odin.diku.dk>

Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux: 29-Sep-92 Re: NJ/SML Niels Skov
Olsen@diku.dk (1012)

> >Would make things somewhat more manageable... [ ... ]

> I don't think so, because a split-up would probably just mean that
> people would cross-post to several groups in order to get more
> sighting. After all that's what's happening in other sub-trees,
> and I don't find it very managable.

> >No flames, please, I *know* you use a sh*tty newsreader who can't
> >handle a) more groups, b) crosspostings but only kill-files..but I
> >don't.

> If you intend to read all the groups and handle crosspostings, then
> why split up??? (No fl*mes intended :-)

> Niels


Sure crosspostings are a big problem (especially when it generates
a big thread). But, splitting has a big advantage:
you don't have to sort out what interests you.
This is even true if you read all the groups: some groups
can be read much faster (cause you know there aren't that many
interesting posts in it), ....
and you are less likely to miss an article cause it is likely to be
in a group you read entirely !

	Stefan Monnier

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From: geek+@CMU.EDU (Brian E. Gallew)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Moria 5.5
Date: 28 Sep 92 05:58:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.selkxfC00WAJMtvQxS
Organization: Administrative Systems, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Has anybody gotten moria 5.5 to compile and run?  If I define SYSV,
and change struct termios to struct termio, it compiles, but it always
seg faults (I also have to comment out the signal handlers for SIGBUS
and SIGSEG).  ANy pointers?  Am I being really stupid?

BTW, I am using linux 0.97p6, and gcc 2.2.2d7 with jump 4.1.

                                  -Brian

You drop the bomb -more-
It goes off... -more-
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