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From: ilan@seas.gwu.edu (Ilan Berkner)
Subject: Re: More on OPTi chipset with GUS
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:08:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.011904.28570@udel.edu> meshreki@zip.ee.udel.edu (Samer Meshreki) writes:
>Similar problems like those also happened to me.  However, the problem
>turned out to be the motherboard -- it wasn't properly seated and had
>a slight bend!  Drove us crazy for hours until someone noticed it from
>the side.

The motherboard cannot touch any metal surfaces.  If it does, then it's likely
that some part of it will be grounded.  This will cause a short, and either
the board will be fried or some safety mechanism will prevent the computer
for completing it's boot-up.
From: captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: what's the latest GUS? (was Re: Got my GUSes from Telemart!)
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:20:27 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <Bz4v99.I5s@news.iastate.edu> wity@iastate.edu (Wity Ganda) writes:
>In article <Bz42KD.FuF@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran) writes:
>>>has no slots..:( BTW, disks are version 1.21 and card 2.2.
>>>I assume these are the latest?
>>
>>Those are the latest.
>>
>>Phat.
>
>Nope.  I've just got my GUS, and the card is Rev. 2.4
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So what is different (improved?) with the 2.4rev board over the previous
releases?  My board has dozens of capacitors and resistors that seem to 
have been afterthoughts (soldered on over DIPs, doubled up, etc.)  Does
the latest board merely include these elements in a neat arrangement, or
are there REAL improvements?  (As if Gravis would actually admit to us
that we have an already outdated board...One can always HOPE for honesty.)

Despite the jumbled appearance of my GUS, the sound is quite good, especially
when compared to the SoundBlasterPro.  I have even compared the GUS to the
Turtle Beach Multisound CD sampler, and the difference is negligible if 
present at all.


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From: harrison@lclark.edu (Mark Harrison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: GUS with CD-ROM kit/daughterboard (cheap?)
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:13:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Dec17.181332.12874
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <1992Dec17.170800.16405@netcom.com> mcaldwel@netcom.com (Michael Caldwell) writes:
>
>I got a Mitsumi CD-ROM drive for $199.00 from a local wholesaler here in
>San Diego.  It's access time is 350ms and the interface card has RCA jacks
>for left and right channel that can be hooked up to your stereo.

Unless Mitsumi has a new line out, you got taken Michael.  Last I knew,
Mitsumi's were somewhere around 600ms or 700ms.

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From: ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
Subject: GUS patches and static
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:25:14 GMT

I was wondering if the static (pops and crackles) with certain patches
played loudly was merely a result of overloading the opamp on the GUS?
Does the static persist if the line out was fed to an external, high-
quality amp instead?

Phat.
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From: gting@fraser.sfu.ca (Gabriel Sii Kuok Ting)
Subject: Re: SB16 Released at Last!
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 10:31:29 GMT

swkgohw@nuscc.nus.sg (Sir Launcelot Du Lac) writes:

>Well met Gabriel

>gting@fraser.sfu.ca (Gabriel Sii Kuok Ting) writes:
>: 
[...]

>Nay, the Wave Blaster canst only connect to the SB16.  Does the GUS have
>prebuilt MIDI sounds?

Sorry, but what exactly is prebuilt MIDI sounds? If you meant the onboard 
ROM like the MT-32 (or was it the SCC-1?), then the answer is NO.
However, the standard GUS comes with 256k of RAM on board (exp to 1Mb)
for which to load the MIDI patches. This is infinitely better than having
a fixed set of instruments on ROM since newer patches can be recorded and
used on the GUS. 


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From: HAGERS@QUCDN.QueensU.CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: sounblaster pro problems
Date: 19 Dec 92 20:31:53 GMT
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston

I have a soundblaster pro basic..tried to install it per directions..
found that i had to reset the jumper pin to pins no.2-3 instead of the
default..NOW i find that when using the test mode, all checks out
EXCEPT the DMA channel 3 [as it is supposed to be]..the test shows that
there is NOTHING on those channels tho the jumper is assigned to the
SHARING mode..any ideas? ..i am using a PB486 machine with no other boards
inside..thanks!
From: harrison@lclark.edu (Mark Harrison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: GUS questions
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:45:01 GMT
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <BzByFM.n5@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl> zonnevel@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (B.J.Zonneveld.tel-015-622622) writes:
>
> 2) How can I force MS Windows to load a certain patch? Do I have to make a 
>    configuration-file or is there another way?

Load the midi in Media Player first, then exit out and go to whatever
program you are using.  That is until the new Windows drivers come out.

> 4) On the gamefront I tried to get Cosmo's Big Adventure to work with sbos.
>    (I know this is only Shareware but I like it) I only get to hear the music
>    and I think I tried out all the possibilities (-o|x 1..3). Has anybody got
>    this working?

If you find out, please let me know.  This is a very fun game IMHO, but
hearing the music play from my stereo, and the sounds comming from the pc
speaker drives me nuts.  Does it even have any other sound effects?

>Oops not yet :-)
>    I am very happy with the card but I want to hear some more asskicking midi-
>    files using 16-bit samples and stereo! Anyone got any of these or know where
>    to get em?

I knew a site, but I can't think of it off the top of my head.  Don't know
how ass-kicking they were, but I enjoyed them.  Try using archie and
searching for 'midi'.

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From: pfeifer@lf.hp.com (Mark Pfeifer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: GUS and .ROL files
Date: 15 Dec 1992 14:42:31 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard Santa Clara Site
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[Begin New Soundcard Owner Question]

I have a Gravis Ultrasound and would like to play some .ROL files on it.

Are there any programs that work with the GUS (in DOS or Windows) that will
play .ROL files?

Are there any conversion utilities to convert .ROL files into something
playable on my GUS (.ROL -> .MID???)?

Thanks for any help.
						Mark

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From: mmb@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Michael Burger)
Subject: PAS .WAV files and normal .WAV files
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:38:35 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

Is there a difference between the .WAV files created by a PAS-16 and the
.WAV files provided by Microsoft?  I can not get any other soundcard to
play the .WAV files created by a PAS-16.


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From: markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN)
Subject: Re: GUS publicity ....  NOT !
Organization: Universite de Moncton
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 23:28:46 GMT

In article <Bz1usx.JMK@icon.rose.hp.com> andy@hpsmo100.rose.hp.com (Andy Young) writes:
>From: andy@hpsmo100.rose.hp.com (Andy Young)
>Subject: Re: GUS publicity ....  NOT !
>Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 15:24:33 GMT


>I have seen many great products fail. I hope the GUS isn't one of them,
>but I'm still gonna play it safe.

	Just check what happened at the Gravis booth at the latest Comdex.
Gravis president talked with a lot of game companies and a lot of future GUS 
suporting games title came out.  Can't remember them.  I have the titles 
somewhere in a letter.  I'll dig them out and post them here.  The future is 
very bright for the GUS.  Even Lucas Film and Sierra, who didn't to support 
it in the beginning, changed their mind.  They _will_ support it.  

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From: ereddy@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Ed Reddy)
Subject: Re: Which OPTi chipset works with GUS?
Keywords: OPTi GUS
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:29:27 GMT


I have an OPTi 386/40 MB with the following chips:
  82C392    Japan    91/09
  82C391    Japan    91/05  (386WB 40 MHz stamped on it)
  F82C206            91/05  ("Good" written on it in pencil)
 
This is a board I got last year.  I only had the opportunity to try
my GUS on it today.  It worked flawlessly.  MUCH better than the
Goldstar 286/12 I was using it on previously!  :-)
 
Ron.
 
ereddy@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
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From: coleman@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Michael A. Coleman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Need sound card for Microchanel PS2 model 55SX
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:50:29 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <3DEC92.09573586@wl.aecl.ca> delaneyg@wl.aecl.ca writes:
>I'm looking for sources and / or recommendation on what sound cards are
>available for a Model 55SX PS2 with microchanel bus of course.  I'ld
>prefer adlib of sound blaster compatable.  Any help would be greatly appreciated
>Grant Delaney
>delaneyg@wl.aecl.ca

	Sucker! I had a 55sx with a Sound Blaster Micro Channel Version and a
Sound Blaster Pro Micro Channel Version. (NOT at the same time, obviously.)  My
recommendation would be to sell your PS/2 immediately and enter the EISA world.
Ask anyone at IBM's help center what they think about "Microchannel bus timeouts, sound cards, and Windows 3.1".  (Sorry about the first line; I have just
junked my PS/2 and am extremely relieved at having done so.)  Actually, apart
from Windows 3.1, I never had a problem with any game with the aforementioned
cards.  I paid $225 last February for the SB MCV and $268 this past August
for the SB PRO MCV.  Good luck.

	Michael Coleman

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From: JBOSTERS@KUBVX1.KUB.NL (Jeroen Bosters)
Subject: Where is 3.1 Covox/LPT DAC Driver?     
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 10:48:35 GMT
Organization: Tilburg University, The Netherlands
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Hi,

I missed the post of the driver, could anyone be so kind to repost it. Or 
is it available by ftp somewhere. 

Thanx,

Jeroen Bosters




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From: jaska@stekt5.oulu.fi (Jaakko Heikkil{)
Subject: Re: Windows 3.1 Covox/LPT DAC Driver (1/1)
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Organization: University of Oulu, Dept. of EE, Finland
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:31:54 GMT

In article <1fjaaqINNg1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cj337@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Etienne Tasse) writes:


> Here is a Sound WAV driver for Windows 3.1 for:
> -  Covox Speech Thing
> -  Digital to Analog Homebrew (DAC08/ZN428/R2R) connected to Printer Port

> Enjoy!

Great! But I havent't yet found instructions for building Covox. Where
I can found it? How about DAC? Any information available? Please tell
me for examble an issue of some magazine where I can read more about
those sound"cards".

 
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From: ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
Subject: Re: Soundblaster Pro & Soundblaster Pro 2 ?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:14:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.142935.6529@mfltd.co.uk> sts@mfltd.co.uk writes:
>In article <1992Dec10.231208.9445@ac.dal.ca>, scoh@ac.dal.ca writes:
>|> In article <1078@dgaust.dg.oz>, brown@dgaust.dg.oz (Fred Brown) writes:
>|> > 
>|> > Could someone please tell me the difference between a Soundblaster Pro
>|> > and a Soundblaster Pro 2 ? 
>|> > Thanks 
>|> > Fred
>|> 
>|> The main difference is Sb pro V1.0 Is the origianl Crap. And Sb Pro II Is Crap
>|> Version 2.0... Nothing wqorth looking at.. Just stick with the GUS.
>
>Just because you own one of the other makes of sound card, doesn't mean that
>the sound blaster is crap.  The sound quality on both makes is very good.
>If you are the sort of person whojust because he has one make of something,
>everything else is crap, then why don't you go and argue in the PC v AMIGA
>wars in rec.comp.  It people like you with "Blinkers on" who keep up these
>inane and useless arguments.
>
>Steve

Though I don't necessarily agree with the manner in which scoh@ac.dal.ca
expressed himself, I do agree with his general sentiment.  In all measures,
the Ultrasound does make the SB line of audio cards sound much inferior.
Those who are skeptical of such claims don't fully understand the
technologies behind the GUS vs the SB (wavetable vs FM synthesis).

Phat.
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From: ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
Subject: Re: GUS: New SBOS's version number...
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:18:05 GMT

In article <rwyckoff.24.724085119@cardinal.sc107.wesleyan.edu> rwyckoff@cardinal.sc107.wesleyan.edu (Catullus) writes:
>In article <1g9eblINNp83@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong) writes:
>
>
>>I can't find where it went but there was a message asking whether the
>>new SBOS in epas.utoronto.ca was the latest version at all for he
>>believe that the version should be 1.22 beta but when he downloaded the
>>file, his SBOS says it is version 1.1....
>
>	He might have meant 1.20 - I ftped GUS0008.EXE from epas, and 
>installed it over the existing files, but last night a friend pointed out 
>that it still said 'SBOS version 1.20'.  I'm going to try deleting some 
>files and re-installing it, but I've got a feeling this is not the right 
>version.

The file I got from epas did include v1.22 of SBOS.  Are you sure you
installed it over the old version correctly?  There are two copies of
SBOS in the Ultrasound directory and its subdirs.

Phat.
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From: mtichy@fraser.sfu.ca (Martin Tichy)
Subject: Re: "playmidi -udebug" -> *contradiction* ??
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: comp
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:07:32 GMT

> logically about this, or that playmidi is screwing up.. It would be
> a serious problem for me if gravis were making grossly false
> claims...
 
I don't see what this is supposed to prove.  It's probably just that
playmidi isn't optimized for the GUS.  As if that isn't evident in all
the other software they include with the card.
From: sl8nl@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Sbos!=SBPRO
Date: 16 Dec 92 10:24:25 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

>>	Wrong.  The 32 voices are not pannable.  They can be put right _or_ 
>>left but they stay mono.  The 16 stereo voices however _are_ pannable into 
>>15 different positions.
> 
> Now hold your horses!  Do any of us have a SDK yet for the GUS?  Do we
> really know anything technical about the GUS for sure?  I don't think any
> of us can say much about what is happening inside the GUS (except maybe
> Chris Yuzik, and he's not talking).  Of course, we'd all like to know what
> magic goes on inside of the GF1.

I've got an SDK beta from GUS.  Maybe I can help...

Joshua Jensen

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From: rsasaoka@musubi.pubnet.com (Yahagi Shogo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,rec.music.synth,rec.music.marketplace,rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Turtle Beach Multisound
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 22:37:20 HST
Organization: Studio Musubi, Honolulu HI

  The one thing that came to mind was that has the MultiSound board gone
through any improvements, and if so, are the boards that are selling for 
a cheaper price, like the one in the PC Zone, is an older board and that
the reason for the the reduced price is that they would like to get rid
of the old stock.  If not, then another reason for the reduced price 
could be because that 56K is planning to release a new board?  Possible 
board that is GS standard, SoundBlaster compat, and so on and so forth...
is this is the case then Ensonique is another board that when released, 
you should also concider too, because the Ensonique will be GS standard
and SB compat too.  I hope to check on this matter tomorrow when the
stores open up.  Hopefully I'll have something to tell you all.
  
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From: biggles@biggles.nsc.com (biggles)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: ALERT GUS vs SB-16+Wave module,
Date: 12 Dec 92 21:50:35 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Organization: BigglesTech (a YoYoDyne Subsidiary GmBH)

I think everybody should hold on a second before they buy their next 
soundcard. (Un)Creative Labs has just released their next generation
SoundBlaster (SB-16 I believe -- I just saw a demo of it at CompUSA)
The new 16-bit 44KHz sampling board lists at $349 and the *Add-On*
Em-u chip WaveBoard is $249. Thats $598 to get te same sounds as a GUS.
It does come with some nicer software tho'
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From: markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN)
Subject: Re: GUS publicity .... NOT !
Organization: Universite de Moncton
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:04:22 GMT

In article <Bz6s7I.41r@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran) writes:
>From: ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
>Subject: Re: GUS publicity .... NOT !
>Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 07:16:29 GMT

>In article <markus.300.724204126@clement.info.umoncton.ca> markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN) writes:
>>
>>       And I did a GUS demo in front of many people this week.  I used 
>>WOWII 1.30 to play MOD files on a 286 16MHz (just think, a 286!!).  I used a 
>>SB in another computer for comparisons.  GUS kicked SB.  Even with MOD 
>>files.  GUS was better than the SB.  Sure, SBPro is stereo with WOWII but 
>>wait 'till a MOD Play for GUS comes out (and it will soon according to 
>>different companies and programmers).  

>I hope you also played MIDI files, as the difference between FM synthesis
>on the SB line and wavetable synthesis on the GUS is most pronounced with
>this format.  Playing MODs on the two types of cards, especially with
>a MOD player that is not GUS specific, will not differentiate the cards
>as much since MODs force the SB to use a form of wavetable synthesis, 
>albeit with much compute burden on the CPU.  

	Be sure I did.  I played all the MIDI files I have and I ran Star 
Control II on the SB Pro and Gravis.  Gravis won!!!  
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|---------------------------------------------+  which I leave is too small |
| When all else fails,  read the instructions |  for thee" - King Philippe  |
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