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From: CN0001RH@UKCC.UKY.EDU (robert hobbs)
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Subject: Re: 386MAX & win 3.1
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:50:03 GMT
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              30 Sep 1992 11:27:13 EDT from <andym@550SHERB.LAN.MCGILL.CA>


   I have used both for several months now with no problems.


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From: GOVE036@TWNMOE10.BITNET (Anne Liang)
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Subject: SCSI + WIN 3.0 +NW 3.11 = sending error on network
Date: 3 Oct 92 03:07:59 GMT
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Hi, I tried to reach Stephen directly but failed.
Excuse me for bothering.

My config.sys is :
device=c::win3.1:himem.sys
device=c::win3.1:emm386.exe ram=e000-efff x=d000-d3ff noems
device=c::win3.1:smartdrv.exe /double_buffer
dos=high,umb
files=40
buffers=20
stacks=9,256

The autoexec.bat is
@echo off
prompt $p$g
set shell=c::command.com
lh c::mouse:mouse
lh c::dos50:doskey
lh c::net:ipx          (which is V3.01 rev.b)
lh c::net:net5         (which is V3.10)
f:
login


Thanks in advance
Anne Liang
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 09:15:57 EDT
From:         Rob Ryan <ROBR@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Excel

On Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:09:45 EST, Brent Biernat said:

>Does anyone know how to add times in Excel? I am using Excel 4.0
>and need to add a time like 410:36  + 310:36. I also need to do averages on
> these types of numbers. The numbers represent things like Number of hours a
> system was active during a month. Excel will only format these numbers as
> clock times like 4:30 am. If I need to clarify the question further please
> tell me.

If you don't want the "am" or "pm" stuff, use Format Number with the format
string "h:mm".  The only problem is that you can never have a "hour" greater
than 23.  There are two, ineligant ways around this.  One is to write string
functions that manually calculate it for you.  Or, one approach that I use is
to specify a format string of the form "# 00/60".  This will display the
minutes as a fraction of hours (always as 60ths), but it's better than
nothing.  You can alternatively use a string function like:

   =LEFT(SUBSTITUTE(TEXT(B1,"# 00/60")," ",":"),LEN(TEXT(B1,"# 00/60"))-3)

where B1 is the cell with the time in it.  This formula simply converts
the "# 00/60" formatted text into something like "#:00" (a format that
Excel doesn't, itself, recognize).

In short, I don't think that Excel offers any way to deal with h:mm formats
for hours greater than 23.  One would have expected something like "hhh:mm"
to do the job, but you get erratic results.  The fraction kludge "# 00/60"
seems like the easiest solution, though it's not quite what you were looking
for.  If you afford 1 cell to enter the number as a fraction and another to
display it as "hhh:mm" format, perhaps something like my function would
do what you want.

-- Rob
>                             *  Student: "Why must we study the thinkers
>                             *  of the past when we already know so much more
>                             *  than they do?
>                             *  Teacher: "Because they are what we know.
From: rhughes@UCSD (Richard J. Hughes)
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Subject: dial in slip
Date: 29 Sep 1992 16:58:55 GMT
Organization: ucsd.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sombsb224.ucsd.edu

I have access to a dial in slip line.  If I make a regular modem call and 
type "slip", the host returns IP addresses for itself and for me, for this 
session only.  I have the Crynwyr packet drivers, and it appears that both 
ethersl and slip8250 should work.  I also understand that I have to run 
both winpkt and pktint prior to starting windows and running wnqvtnet.

How do I connect to the remote host and pass these IP addresses to the 
wnqvtnet configuartion file prior to starting wnqvtnet?

Any pointers would be much appreciated.

Many thanks.

Richard J. Hughes
rhughes@ucsd.edu
From: NBRINDLE@INDYCMS.BITNET (NATHAN BRINDLE)
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Subject: ATM 2.0 and WIN 3.1
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:09:51 GMT
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OK, here goes.  I have an IBM PS/2 Model 56SLC, 6MB, nothing fancy, running
DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.1.  My CONFIG.SYS is vanilla, nothing unusual.  I'm
not running any TSRs.  This thing is set up as plain as it comes.  I've heard
that the SLC chips are finicky, but I've had no trouble thus far.

Now, here's the problem.  I had ATM 1.15 running just fine.  We purchased
an HP LaserJet IIID Postscript which came with ATM 2.0 (from Hewlett-Packard).
Naturally I tried to upgrade my ATM.  When it comes to the RESTART WINDOWS
button, though, the system locks up.  I can CTRL-ALT-DELETE and make the
system start again, but it then displays the WIN opening screen and stops
dead in its tracks.

It's not the ATM that's doing this.  I have successfully installed it from
the same disks onto my clone 386 at home (again, nothing fancy in the CONFIG.
SYS or AUTOEXEC.BAT).  Does anyone know why this is happening on that crazy
PS/2?  I hate to install it on one of the other PS/2's here because I don't
want to go through the agony on another one.  Is there a workaround?

Help!

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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 11:46:38 AST
From:         Luciano Barragan UCV <lbarraga@CONICIT.VE>
Subject:      Re: windows terminal
              "K119GG%TAMVM1.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU" at Sep 25, 92 10:52 pm

> I am writnng this via windows 3.1 communincations package. It presents some
 nig
> fty possibilities.  SOme problems I have found while emulating a b opss, vt100
>
	Hi, George:

	Firstable, you must to check if your host is emulating VT100 also.
	For  example, in  a UNIX enviroment, you must to set TERM=vt100 in
	your .profile.

> 1. no back space key

	Also, you must to tell to your  host,  your  equivalence  for  the
	backspace key. Again, in UNIX, you must to set stty erase ^h in your
	.profile.

> 2. no clear key

	I don't know what you mean when you say "clear key". If  that means
	something like a Ctrl+[anykey] or Alt+[anykey], you must to uncheck
	the Use Function, Arrow, and Ctrl Keys for... box  at  the Terminal
	Preference window.

P.D.: Sorry for my english.... Maybe I write it like Tarzan speaks it.
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Date:         Fri, 25 Sep 1992 20:40:46 PDT
From:         "Vance M. Gloster" <gloster@INFERENCE.COM>
Subject:      mail order
              25 Sep 1992 21:22:00 MDT
              <9209260325.AA15621@fourier.inference.com>

  When I discovered this I immediatly
  called and they said it was just as fast as the intel chip, but when I ran
  Norton SI on it it came up with an overall score of 33 and a processor score
  of 46.  I tested some 486/33's with the intel processor and their Norton SI
  scores were more like 65 overall and 74 on the processor.  I would say that
  is a significant difference.

The math chip being external will make that portion of the benchmark
MUCH slower.  Other parts of the system (the cache size, the cache
controller type, the dynamic RAM speed) can have a big impact on
performance.  Also setup options like whether the RAS/CAS strobes are
interleaved on the dynamic RAM can affect it.  I have a Cyrix 387 in a
386 machine, and it appears to run just as fast as an Intel 387 of the
same clock speed.

-Vance Gloster
 gloster@inference.com
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 11:51:51 PDT
From:         "Vance M. Gloster" <gloster@INFERENCE.COM>
Subject:      Windows NT
              29 Sep 1992 15:08:00 +0100
              <9209291627.AB21891@fourier.inference.com>

Let me clear up a few things about the Microsoft plans for Windows.

Windows for Workgoup is NOT Windows 4.0.  It is Windows 3.1,
unchanged, with some networking capabilites added.  It is part of
Microsoft's strategy of providing a "product line" of operating
systems which are interoperable (run the same programs and data).
Windows 3.1 is the low end, with Windows for Workgroup in the middle
and NT on top.  It should be obvious to anyone who endured the OS/2
vs. Windows flames on this group a few months back that some people
want a high-feature OS that requires 8-12 meg, and some would prefer a
lower-feature one that works in 2-4 meg.

With regard to running 32-bit binaries on Windows for Workgroup,
Microsoft has created WIN32S.DLL which allows 32-bit binaries to run
under both Windows for Workgroup and 3.1.  There are restrictions,
though.  At this time WIN32S has a subset of the functions of NT, so
any program which uses the unsupported functions will not run on
anything but NT.  Microsoft plans to extend WIN32S to provide more
functions, but they have not (to my knowledge) committed to providing
full compatibility.  This is understandable because NT provides many
additional services not found in 3.1.

The networking stuff that is in Windows for Workgroup is quite good.
It lets you do most of the things Unix people take for granted.  You
can mount a directory on another machine to appear as a drive on your
machine, you can control permissions, etc.  A machine running in
standard mode can only use resources on other machines, not provide
them to other machines.  386 enhanced mode machines can provide
resources as well.  It works transparently with NT machines which have
similar capabilities.  You can set up a peer-to-peer style network
or use NT servers to do client/server, or do a hybrid.  Microsoft has
taken a large chunk of LAN Manager and bundled it into the NT and
Windows for Workgroup OSs.  Most small networks will need no more
network capability than these provide.  Microsoft is keeping the
system open to allow others to provide the low level network services,
but right now LAN Manager is it.

Also, I dispute that NT is not for individual machines.  We plan to
run NT on all of our developer's machines (programmers).  It will be
nice to be able to mix NT and Windows for Workgroup machines on the
network.

-Vance Gloster
 gloster@inference.com

Not a Microsoft employee, nor do I have any interest in the company.
My opinions are my own.
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:25:12 CST
From:         A16905@ITESO.BITNET
Subject: Re: Prospero

What is Prospero ?

Do you mean Prospero Pro-Pascal ?

I've used it. I didn't liked it.

Shalom,
Memo.
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:53:00 EDT
From:         Vince Scarafino <Scarafino@MULTICS-A.PMS.FORD.COM>
Subject:      Re: Inkjet or Laser Printer?

 >Date:  2 October 1992 16:48 edt
 >From:  GEORGE PHILIP BLUHM <gb03 at NS1.CC.LEHIGH.EDU>
 >Subject:  Re: Inkjet or Laser Printer?

 >Remember laser printers produce ozone in high concentrations.  This can be
 >hazardous to your health.
 >
 >Phyl THEE McNasty

If we had a *REAL* ether-net, we could put those laser printers in orbit
where they can help restore the ozone!  :-)

Vince
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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 19:00:00 +0200
From:         Mohammad Shams <SHAMS@EGAUCACS.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Procomm & Windows conflict

Alright Jim....  Where did you get the Shareware Procomm under windows...
first time I heared of it...
thanx
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From: swesterback@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: Re: Still working on the VT320 emulation on Procomm
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:58:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.005452.7103@iscsvax.uni.edu>, to5232@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> I finally figured out that I needed the patch to get Procomm so that it can
> work right under TPU editor use.  But I am still having problems with Keyboard
> Layout for the VT320 terminal emulation.  My Backspace Key still does not erase
> characters like it should and I can not figure out if there are any keys
> assigned to do anything that any VT emulation is supposed to do.
I am using Reflection 2 to communicate with VAX and i wanted to tell this:
The Backspace key must be remapped so that it generates the DEL character 
(ASCII code 127?). The BS (8)-code has no meaning to the VAX!

What type of connections does Procomm 4 Win support? RS232C, TCP-IP, LAT ...?
Does it need DOS-drivers to access ethernet card?

Sten 
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NB! I am working, but not speaking for Nokia Telecommunications!
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 07:12:49 EST
From:         Leandre_Racicot@CMR001.BITNET
Subject: Re: DRDOS 6, SuperStor and Windows

   The comments I made about not to use SmartDrive with a SuperStor
partition may only apply to the SuperStor driver included with DRDOS.

   Still, DR DOS' manual clearly states that SmartDrive may corrupt
The FAT. And in Windows' manual, they recommend to disable caching on
any SuperStored drive.

  Being curious, I tried the dreaded combination and my FAT got
indeed hopelessly corrupt...

  Anyway, SuperPCKwik caches diskette writes, something that
SmartDrive 4.0 does not. This speeds up File Manager dramatically!

HTH.

Benoit Racicot
BPROF02@CMR001.BITNET
From: CHDRAKE@MAIL.UAMS.EDU
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Subject: uuencode solutions
Date: 6 Oct 92 09:03:00 GMT
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In summary, I found several useful tools, but the best seemed to be
EXTRCT34.ZIP on cica (FTP.CICA.INDIANA.EDU for the few who don't know)
in /pub/pc/win3/util.  This works in windows or dos, has a nice and simple
windows interface, and worked smoothly first try.  It is shareware, but the
registration is extremely reasonable (about $10 I think.)  I doesn't require
stripping off extra header or trailer information, and will read all the files
in a directory, reconstructing the original automatically.  (Ignoring other
inappropriate or duplicate files.)

Thanks for all the responses.
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 08:37:14 GMT
From:         Bob Kane <bob@WORMS-EMH2.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re: uuencode

>
>Sorry if this is the wrong place for this, but I seems somewhat related to
>the conversations I have read lately.
>
>Can anyone tell me where I can get the software to put together a zip file
>that was mailed to me as several uuencoded mail messages?
>(Under DOS or Windows, not Unix!)
>
>        Thanks...
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>CHDRAKE@MAIL.UAMS.EDU
>Charles H. Drake, Jr. ("Bert Drake")
>University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences
>4301 West Markham Street, Mail Slot 549
>Little Rock, Arkansas, 72205-7199, United States of America
>Phone: (501) 686-7190

Charles,

The program that you need is called uucode17.zip and is available on CICA in
the uploads directory.  When uncompressed this will give you a Windows
compatible uuencode/uudecode program.  By the way, do not get the older version
that is stored as uucode16.zip in the util directory, I had problems with it.

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Date:         Sat, 3 Oct 1992 07:16:00 GMT
From:         HeringerMR
              <WFCB/WFCB1/HeringerMR%Western_Farm_Credit_Bank@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      RE: PHONE LOG

>> Does anyone know of a program which would provide a simple means to
>> keep a log of phone calls?
>
> ... and that will dial the calls for you? Please respond to the
> list.
> Thanks
> Louis

i use packrat from polaris.  it has a lot of functionality, including a phone
book and phone log.  it will dial the phone.  it also includes the ability to
manage client billing with the phone log function.  we run the network
version which allows the adminstrative support to enter phone calls for each
person.  these phone calls appear in an inbox facility.

i started with version 2.0 under windows 2.x several years ago.  the product
has been regularly upgraded from 2.0 to 3.0 to 4.0 to 4.1 during this period.
polaris has done a good job of constantly improving the product over this
period.  although i admit that it took awhile for me to really get
comfortable with it, i would not want to live without it now.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:12:07 -0500
From:         Joe Morris <IS480P02@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Print Screen under Win 3.1

Date: 01 Oct 1992 18:45:53 +0000 (GMT)
From: Duane Harbin <DGH%HERALD.DIVINITY.YALE.EDU@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu>

> I would like to be able to do a screen dump to the printer in a DOS app
> running under Windows 3.1. Is there any way to get the dump to go to the
> printer rather than to the Clipboard?

In the PIF for the DOS app go into the Advanced options (if you're 386
enhanced mode) and check-oof the box marked PrtScr or some other form
of abbreviation under resserved keys.  This will prevent Win3.1 from
processing the PrintScreen function before DOS has a fighting chance.
______________________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 10:04:01 -0500
From:         "Philip H. Kachelmyer" <phk@MUDHONEY.MICRO.UMN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Want POP PC client

In message <9209260833.AA02361@boombox.micro.umn.edu> Microsoft Windows Version
3 Forum writes:
> 	Can anybody tell me where I can find a POP3 mail client that
>   is running on PC with the MS-Window 3.1 as GUI?  The POP client
>   must accept the packet driver.  Certainly, I can copy the software
>   for the ftp site.

Our POPmail/PC software will run under Windows 3.1, though it is not a
Windows application; it's a DOS application.  It works with the packet
Crynwr packet drivers.  If you're interested, there are two version available
from our server at boombox.micro.umn.edu.  Version 2.7.2 has been released
for some time and is being used in quite a few places.  It's fairly stable.
Version 3.0beta is also available and uses a different user interface (though
it's similar to that of 2.7.2) and has many new features.  We are adding to
this version on a daily basis.  We welcome any comments you might have about
the product.  If it does the job for you we'd appreciate hearing that too.


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Date:         Sun, 4 Oct 1992 23:09:17 CDT
From:         Gary Jarrell <C604441@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU>
Subject:      Windows NT

Hi, I am new to the list.  I am doing a comparison on Unix and Windows NT for t
wo of my classes.  I realize that NT is new, and not onthe market just yet, but
 is there anyone out there that has seen it or better yet worked on the design?
I am looking not only at the internals but also the apperance of it, like how
it compares to Motif, Sun View, etc.; how it "feels"; So if you have used,
worked on, or seen NT, please drop me a note at:

C604441@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU

with your impressions or thoughts about it.

Thanks, Gary Jarrell
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:50:36 MEZ
From:         Dierk Lucyga <RZLUCY@NYX.UNI-KONSTANZ.DE>
Subject:      Re: games on windows

Have a closer look at /pub/pc/win3/games on CICA...

/Dierk Lucyga
From: buchignani@hg.uleth.ca
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Subject: Re: 386MAX & win 3.1
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:37:52 GMT
Reply-To: buchignani@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge

I have been using Bluemax on my IBM Model 80 to manage 10 megs
with windows 3.1 and have never had any problems. I have retained
the use of Microsoft's disk cache rather than the Qualitas one,
so can't comment on the latter.
    Norm Buchignani/University of Lethbridge/BUCHIGNANI@HG.ULETH.CA
"If we have been accustomed to deplore the spectacle...of a workman occupied
during his whole life in nothing else but the making of knife-handles or pins'
heads, we may find something quite as lamentable in the intellectual class, in
the exclusive employment of a human brain in resolving some equations, or in
classifying insects. [This] occasions a miserable indifference about the
general course of human affairs, as long as there are equations to solve and
pins to manufacture."                                      Auguste Comte
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