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From: Brian.Randell@newcastle.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: LDS FamilySearch (RANDELL)
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:32:43 GMT
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Could I prevail on a kindly soc.roots/ROOTS-L reader who uses the LDS
Family Search system to use a little of their next precious allocation of
time on the system to do a small search for me. This is for any records
relating to FRANCIS RANDELL in the UK in the period 1700-1799. (This name
is that of my 3- and 4-greatgrandfathers, both of whom were mariners and
have been traced back to Carmarthenshire, Wales in 1797 - but  are/were
thought to have come there from Devon.) Common alternative spellings are
RANDEL, RANDLE, RANDAL, RANDALL - and just possibly the name might be
spelled starting REN--- or RUN---.

My excuses for making such a request are numerous: (i) Family Search is
still not available in the UK, (ii) I am searching for a sea-faring (and
therefore potentially very mobile) ancestor, (iii) I and a distant cousin
have already searched extensively, including via the Devon and the Dyfed
FHS, the Society of Genealogists, and numerous libraries and record offices
in Wales and Devon, (iv) the 1988 IGI, which is the latest available to me,
has significant gaps in its coverage of Devon, and (v) the name Francis
Randell is fairly uncommon, so with a somewhat narrow date range should not
produce many "hits".

My hope therefore is that Family Search might either locate the name among
more recent additions to the IGI for Devon, or locate the name in some
quite different county.

Should anyone be willing to undertake this for search, might I suggest that
they check first with me, so that duplicated effort can be avoided. 

Thanks

Brian Randell



Dept. of Computing Science, The University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, UK
EMAIL = Brian.Randell@newcastle.ac.uk   PHONE = +44 91 222 7923
FAX = +44 91 222 8232 
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:29:22 EST
Reply-To:     "J.P. Letellier" <jp@WIZARD.NRL.NAVY.MIL>
From:         "J.P. Letellier" <jp@WIZARD.NRL.NAVY.MIL>
Subject: Re: Upper Milford district, Pa.
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On the question of location of Upper Milford district, I got this answer
from my friend Susan Turnbach:

> From turnbach Wed Nov  4 21:53:03 1992
> Subject: Re:  For our maps
>
> The "Map Guide to the US Federal Census in Pennsylvania 1790-1920" by
> William Thorndale and William Dollarhide gives maps of the various
> counties in PA as they were in each of the census years starting in 1790.
> This is overlaid on the present county structure.  Lehigh County did not
> exist in 1790.  In 1790 Northampton County (of which I am a native)
> included present day Lehigh, Northampton, a northeast slice of Schuylkill,
> most of Carbon, Monroe, Pike, and Wayne.  Northumberland includes almost
> all of north central PA. Upper Milford Twp in present day Lehigh would
> have been in Northampton in 1790 and 1800.  By 1820, it was its modern
> shape.  I seem to have lost the sheet for 1810, so I can't help you there.
>
> These map sets are available for a number of states.  They are published
> by American Genealogical Lending Library, PO Box 244, Bountiful, Utah 84010.
> Each state set runs about $5-6.  I got them for PA, MD, and VA, the states
> I've been working on.  Big problem is that there is nothing before 1790.
>
> P. S. I have no interest in this company.
>
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From: dko@cs.wisc.edu (David Olsen)
Subject: Re: Mac PAF version?
Reply-To: dko@cs.wisc.edu
Organization: Dept. of Computer Sciences, University of Wisconsin
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:38:30 GMT

In article <1689CCFDC.SYSDAVE@ukcc.uky.edu>, SYSDAVE@ukcc.uky.edu (Dave Elbon) writes:
|> What is the current version of PAF for the Mac?  I've had mine for
|> two or three years and was wondering if there have been any updates.
|> Mine is 2.1.

I bought mine a few weeks ago.  The current version is still 2.1.
(Note that the current version for PAF on a PC is 2.2.)

-- 
David Olsen				University of Wisconsin
dko@cs.wisc.edu				Department of Computer Sciences
From: jcarroll@leonardo.src.Honeywell.com (Joe Carroll)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Church Records: Notre-Dame d'Ottawa
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:56:24 GMT
Organization: Honeywell SRC

Church Records -- Notre-Dame dUOttawa  (Notre Dame church in Ottawa, Ontario,
 Canada)

Can anyone tell me if the records for this church during the 1800s have been
 published somewhere?  Birth, baptism, marriage, death, burial, etc.  
There is a strong possibility the my great grandparents belonged to this
 church in the mid to late 1800s and possibly earlier.

I have found a list of marriages (Mariages de LUOutauais) and some of the
 names are intriguing.  But now I want much more information.  I could (and
 will) write to the Canadian Archives for individual pieces such as death and
 marriage certificates.  However, it seems that I would get a far better 
overall picture if I had access to the totality of records.

So, is there such a publication?  If so, where?  If not, are there indexes
 or partial publications such as I have already noted?  And, where would 
they be?

TIA

Joe Carroll            jcarroll@leonardo.src.honeywell.com

Researching:  CARROLL, COONEY, LUNNEY, MURPHY, BURKE
They all came from Ireland through the Ottawa area (Ontario and Quebec) 
in the 1800s and then down into Wisconsin.
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:39:48 -0600
Reply-To:     Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Looking for info on Novinger family
Comments: To: "Kathy O'Meara Magnuson 708/982-4596 1825/A-1W"
          <omeara@skcla.monsanto.com>
Comments: cc: Multiple recipients of list ROOTS-L <ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

Since *Novinger* is an unusual name, you may be interested to know that
there is one in Houston, Texas.

Mrs. Florence Novinger   4222 Lockfield       (713) 680-9512

Hope this helps.

-----Nancy Harwood-----------------------------------------------------------
Journalism Department                           Telephone:  (713) 357-3254
Tomball High School                             Fax:  (713) 357-3248
13705 Sandy Lane
Tomball, TX  77375                              Inquiring minds want to know.
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From: dbgordon@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Donald B Gordon)
Newsgroups: soc.roots,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Information on Drouin Genealogical Institute
Date: 9 Nov 1992 12:58:18 GMT
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In article <1992Oct30.030343.21429@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> spm2d@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Steven Miale) writes:

> I am seeking the correct address for Institut Genealogiquie Drouin.
> The address I have is:
> 
> Institut Genealogiquie Drouin
> 4184 Saint Denis
> Montreal, Quebec

In checking the current Montreal White Pages using Alex (a videotex
service from Bell Canada), the following entry was found, with postal
code added by myself:

Institut Genealogique Drouin (1987) Inc
5955 Wilderton Av
Montreal, QC
H3S 2V1

Telephone: (514) 344 9010

It is located in Le Sanctuaire du Mont-Royal, Phase II, so there may be
a suite number as well.  It is very close to the Universite de Montreal,
near Edouard-Montpetit metro (subway) station.  I believe the original
institute went out of business, hence the inclusion of a year in the
name.  I have no idea of what (if anything) it carries over from its
predecessor, or of its reputability.

> Also, does anyone know what they charge for reproduction services (US
> funds) either per page or per surname.  This would be either the
> "male" of "female" list.  Do they sell this info on microfiche?

I have no idea of their publications, services or charges.  You will
have to contact them by mail or telephone to find out, unless someone
else in this newsgroup is aware of them.

-- 
Donald B Gordon
dbgordon@gnu.ai.mit.edu
From: botteron@BU-IT.BU.EDU (Carol Botteron)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: African-American Genealogy
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:04:18 GMT
Reply-To: Carol Botteron <botteron@BU-IT.BU.EDU>
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Welcome, Terrance Heath!  Let's hope this gets one of those great Roots
info-fests going.

Here are a couple of addresses that may be helpful.  These are from the
1992 Directory of Genealogical Societies in the Jul/Aug 1992 issue of
Everton's Genealogical Helper.

Afro-American Historical and Genealogical Society
P.O. Box 73086
Washington, DC  20056-3086

African-American Family History Association
P.O. Box 115268
Atlanta, GA 30310
Meetings, newsletter, projects

Georgia Genealogical Society
P.O. Box 38066
Atlanta, GA 30334

No listing for a Talbot Co., GA genealogical society but there may be
a historical society.  Since it's in the western part of the state,
though --

West Georgia Genealogical Society
c/o Troup County Archives
P.O. Box 1051
LaGrange, GA  30241

If you're not near any of these, try the local genealogical or
historical society.  Most have information and interests outside their
immediate area.

Try calling or writing the Talbot Co. courthouse at Courthouse Square,
Talbotton, GA 31827.  My Handy Book for Genealogists says that the
probate court has birth, marriage, and death records.  Doesn't say
what years though.

Check the libraries for genealogical publications, too.  There are
general ones like EGH, local/regional ones, undoubtedly ones for
African-American genealogy, etc.

You have made a good start with census info.  You can find a lot by
the "brute force" method, e.g. checking all the families with a given
surname.

And stay in touch here!

Carol Botteron    botteron@bu-it.bu.edu
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:30:26 -0600
Reply-To:     Steve Olsen <SRO@ARLAN.BYU.EDU>
From:         Steve Olsen <SRO@ARLAN.BYU.EDU>
Subject:      (Forwarded) Re: Welcome to Roots-L!
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Forwarded message:
From:     Self <ASB_AR/SRO>
To:       Karen Isaacson <karen@monty.rand.org>,
Subject:  Re: Welcome to Roots-L!
Reply-to: sro@arlan.byu.edu
Date:     5 Nov 92 17:29:14

Dear Karen,
Thanks for the welcome and the informative explanation of what ROOTS-
L is and how to navigate around.

I'm brand new to ROOTS-L, but have been doing genealogy for nearly 30
years, and computer genealogy for almost 5 years.  I use Personal
Ancestral File (PAF) for most of what I do, and have a passing
acquaintance with a few other programs.

I am trying to compile a history of the Born and Borns (which
later became Burns) families from Germany that came to Penn. in the
mid-1700's.  The earliest ancestor I know about in America is Ernest
Born who was born about 1740 and died about 1805 in either Penn. or
Ohio.

His wife was Amelia Gerlach who was born about 1745 and died
about 1830.  They lived in Huntingdon County, Penn., for several
years where three or four children were born.  I'm a descendant of
their son Henry Burns, who was born in 1764 in Huntingdon County,
Penn. and died in 1833, probably in Darke County, Ohio.

Henry Burns married Magdalena Shockey about 1780.  Their youngest
son, Christopher Burns (my 3-gg-father) was born about 1800 in Penn.
or Ohio.  Christopher Burns married Rachel _______ (possibly Pierce?)
about 1825-1830.  Christopher and Rachel Burns, one son, and one
daughter were listed in the 1830 U.S. Census of Perry Twp., Wayne
County, Ohio.

They were in Logan County, Ohio, about 1834-35 where a son, Simon
Pierce Burns was born. And by 1835 or 1836 were in Muscatine, Iowa,
where they stayed for about ten years.  The 1840 U.S. Census of
Muscatine County, Iowa, lists the parents, five sons, and three
daughters.  I know the name of one daughter, Mary Ann, and four sons,
John, Silas, Adam, and Simon Pierce.  I speculate that the fifth son
was named James, since John Burns named his only child James
Christopher Burns (my gg-father).

I'm sending this to you and forwarding a copy to ROOTS-L to see if
other subscribers can help me out.

Thanks for your assistance.

Steve Olsen
1234 N. Main Street
Orem, Utah  84057
(801) 378-6429 (work)
(801) 224-2430 (home)
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Date: 9 Nov 92 16:01:26 CDT
Organization: Inland Steel Company, East Chicago, IN
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TEST POSTING
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From: kathleen@casbs.Stanford.EDU (Kathleen Much)
Subject: Re: Robert E. Lee
Organization: Center for Advanced Study in the Behavioral Sciences
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:53:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.183047.26620@news.cs.indiana.edu> "Paul Purdom" <pwp@moose.cs.indiana.edu> writes:
> I would
>presume that their is a book somewhere on Robert E. Lee's geneology, but I
>have never seen one.

There are at least two in the Stanford library (I can vouch for the
Nagel book):
*
Socrates / Search: Find TP LEES OF VIRGINIA
Result: 2 headings

Heading 1) Title: Lees of Virginia Biography of A Family (1 citation)
Citation 1.1 ------------------------------------------------------------------

AUTHOR:   Hendrick, Burton Jesse, 1870-1949. 2n
TITLE:    The Lees of Virginia; biography of a family, by Burton J. Hendrick
            ...
IMPRINT:  Boston, Little, Brown, and Company, 1935.
          3 p. l., [v]-xii p., 2 l., [3]-455 p. front., pl., ports., fold.
            geneal. tab. 25 cm.

LOCATION: Green Library Stacks 929.2.L482h (Library has c.1; c.2)

TOPICS:   Lee family (Richard Lee, 1590?-1663?)
          Lee, Robert E. (Robert Edward), 1807-1870. cn
NOTES:    "Of this edition three hundred copies have been autographed, printed,
            and bound wholly uncut with paper label."
          Language: English   Year: 1935
          Item CSUGADP4967-B (Books)  ADP4967 (NOTIS)

Heading 2) Title: Lees of Virginia Seven Generations of an Amer... (1 citation)

Citation 2.1 ------------------------------------------------------------------

AUTHOR:   Nagel, Paul C.
TITLE:    The Lees of Virginia : seven generations of an American family / Paul
            C. Nagel.
IMPRINT:  New York : Oxford University Press, 1990. port.
          xiv, 332 p., [16] p. of plates : ill., maps ; 25 cm.

LOCATION: Green Library Stacks CT274.L44N34 1990 (may also be available at
            Stanford Bookstore)

TOPICS:   Lee family.
          Lee, Robert E. (Robert Edward), 1807-1870.
          Virginia--Biography.
          Virginia--Genealogy.
NOTES:    Genealogical tables on lining pages.
          Language: English   Year: 1990
          Item CSUG90-B76284 (Books)  ACN7278 (NOTIS)

----------------------------------------------------------------
Seeking ACTON, BAILEY, BALL, BEALE, BEAUMAN (BEAUMIER), BOBO, BRAKE,
BRITTAIN (BRITTON), CALVERT, COLSTON, CORGAN (CORRIGAN), EVERENDEN
(EVERDEN, EVENDEN, EVERNDON), FERREE (FERIE, FIERRE, FIRE, FIERE),
HARM, HARWAR, HEWITT, KENNERLY, LEATHERWOOD, LEE, LEFEVRE, McCARTY,
McQUEAD, MUCH, MUSGROVE, PILGRIM (PILGRAM), POPE, SAUERWEIN, SONTAG,
TARRANT, TAVERNER, TERRY, UNDERWOOD, WAREMBOUR (de WARENBUR), WEGMAN,
WOOD, WOODRUFF (WOODROUGH), YERBY.


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From: holloway@ESSEX.STFX.CA
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: NEHGS
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:56:14 GMT
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Does anyone out there know the hours for the New England Historic
Genealogical Soc Library in Boston (newbury St)?  Will they close early on
Veterans Day (11Nov)? Are they open on Sundays?
Thanks, Steven Holloway
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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 1992 13:09:44 EST
Reply-To:     "J.P. Letellier" <jp@WIZARD.NRL.NAVY.MIL>
From:         "J.P. Letellier" <jp@WIZARD.NRL.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Social Security requests
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@vm1.nodak.edu

If anyone has successfully acquired the correct form from social security
to obtain info on deceased people, PLEASE look at the bottom right
corner and get me the SSA number.  My first attempt, they sent me the
form for myself.  My second attempt, they sent me a "Third Party Request
for Extract of Photocopy", but it is for a representative of the
person:  I either have to get them to sign (difficult, since dead for
19 years) or get a court order appointing me their legal representative
(can I be appointed the representative of a dead person??).  So, for
my next try I would like to start with the correct form number.
Thanks,
jp
From: green@PLAINS.NODAK.EDU (Brad Green)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Lambs, the sequel
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:28:40 GMT
Reply-To: Bill Green <green@plains.nodak.edu>
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This is in part a request for the folks who were kind enough to answer my
original question (to see if this new information hits any targets) and
also to show how you can go around in circles at an FHC.

Originally, I found my greatgrandfather in the Ancestral File, along with
his father and grandfather.  The information I knew fit what was in the
AF, with one exception.  My greatgrandfather (Arthur W. Lamb) was born in
Indiana, and died in Kansas.  His father (Mahlon Lamb) was shown in the
Ancestral File as being born in Grant County, Indiana.  This didn't fit with
the information I had from both the 1900 and 1920 census, which showed Arthur's
father was born in North Carolina.  Everything fit, except the birthplace.

Tonight, I had a precious few minutes and ran the name Mahlon Lamb through
the IGI.  There were two of them there, both had a father John Lamb, and
a mother Sarah Wall.  The Ancestral File showed Mahlon's birthdate as
9 April 1848.  One of the IGI Mahlons' had Indiana as a birthplace, but
1849 as a date.  The other one had 17 April 1851 as a birthdate, and
Back Creek, Randolph, North Carolina as a birthplace.  Now we're getting
somewhere - I now have a North Carolina birthplace and can search further
with this.

The bottom line is, search both the IGI and Ancestral File, and go from
there.  The information is only as good as the person who submitted it,
and can be inaccurate.

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*  Bill Green, Minot, North Dakota   *    Forget the "Brad", it's really    *
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:54:00 EST
Reply-To:     "Dorothy M. Paul (219) 239-8694" <LGG4BD@IRISHMVS.BITNET>
From:         "Dorothy M. Paul (219) 239-8694" <LGG4BD@IRISHMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      BUCHANAN LINEAGE

Help!  I promised to send this copy of a three page
document, pretentiously called "Buchanan Lineage" to
someone named Jennifer, last name "A" something, from
the net... and I have lost her address.

This is the tracing (what kind of research I don't know,
kind of looks like it was copied out of a book) of the
Buchanan line from late 1800's in Van Wert, Ohio back to
 "Fargallus, the 156th Monarch of all Ireland, who was
  killed in 718 by Moroch, King of Leinser."

Jennifer, please send me your snail mail address again.
Anyone else interested in these Buchanan's let me know.
(THESE ARE NOT MY RELATIVES, THEY BELONG TO MY FORMER
SPOUSE, although I did keep his Grandmother after the
divorce...)

dmp
........................................................................
Dorothy M. Paul           :Berkley(Berkeley) == Nebraska ** 1886
Room 836 Hesburgh Library :Blohme == Michigan>Illinois>Germany ** 1871
Univ. of Notre Dame       :Odd(Odsboy|Oddboy) == Utah>Sussex>Surrey>
Notre Dame, Indiana, USA  :                   == Kent,England ** 1733
             46556        :Wheaton == Michigan>New York ** 1799
(219)239-8694             :Life is just a      
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From: Steve.Hayes@p5.f22.n7101.z5.fidonet.org (Steve Hayes)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Just Starting...
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 04:09:00 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 5:7101/22.5 - Novell User Group, Pretoria RSA

On <08 Nov 1992 09:13> BONGIOVIRP@VTPOOH.ME.VT.EDU  said to All :

 BMVE>2.  I have downloaded many genealogy programs and found one I 
 BMVE>like (The
 BMVE>Family Scrapbook) and one that many people seem to use 
 BMVE>(Brother's Keeper).
 BMVE>I have found that Family Scrapbook seems to do everything 
 BMVE>Brother's
 BMVE>Keeper does and has an easier to use interface.  My question is 
 BMVE>two fold.
 BMVE>First, what features do people find most important in a 
 BMVE>genealogy program?
 BMVE>Second, how does Pafability compare to these two programs?  I 
 BMVE>don't want
 BMVE>to waste money on a program (or registering a program) that 
 BMVE>does not do

PAFability is not a stand-alone program, but a utility to be used with the 
Personal Ancestral File program. It produces a particular style of descendant 
report that is common in North America. Brother's Keeper is capable of 
producing such reports as well without add on utilities.




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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 1992 15:06:00 CDT
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From:         NORMAN%MACALSTR.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
Subject:      Hempstead County, Arkansas
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

If anyone on the Roots-L list has access to the Arkansas 1910 Soundex I have
been trying to trace these names:  QUillen Gross, age 65, John Atkins, maybe
56, and assorted Grosses and Atkins of the next generation.  Also Sarah Gross
and Mary Atkins, both in their 50's in and around 1910.  My guess is that they
arrived in the Hempstead County area between 1900 and 1910.

Also, I hope to find the same names in the same area in the 1920 Soundex, and
also a Margaret McDermott and her parents.

If anyone can help I would appreciate it.

Thanks,
Charles Norman
400 Selby Avenue
Apt. 412
St. Paul, MN 55102

norman@macalstr.edu
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:57:19 EST
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From:         radamaryb@UBE.BITNET
Subject: Re: Novinger name

To whomever wanted info on this name:

Just one in the Baltimore phone book:

Carl Novinger   8029-C Leslie Dr., Ft. Meade, MD
((410) 647-8757)
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