HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dnaraghi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dara Naraghi)
Subject: Re: Moon Knight/I'm SOOO pissed at MARVEL
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:29:15 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.063552.11905@midway.uchicago.edu> ror1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:

>
>"This issue presents the totally revamped Moon Knight- logo and all!  Specor
>Mansion is blown to pieces, Frenchie is injured and confined to a wheelchair,
>and Marlene decides that she needs her own space (for now).  Moon Knight
> emerges from these hard tiems a darker, grittier and tougher than ever, 
>relocating to state of the art headquarters in Manhattan, and changing 
>his arsenal and costume to match his new high tech base.  To aid him in his
>war on crime, Moon Knight consults the Shadow Cabinet, a varied panel of 
>experts from all walks of life... and Spector will need all the help he can
>get when Doctor Doom arrives on the scene!"
>
>And guess what's coming up?  An Infinity War crossover in MK where "MK's alien
>doppleganger threats the lives of Alicia and Franklin Richards, as the fate of
>the Multiverse hangs in the ballance."  
>
>ARRRRGRGGGGG!!!!!

	Stuff like this is why I have dropped all my Marvel titles (except
for Hulk).  I really, really like a lot of the Marvel characters (Moon Knight
being one of them), but I got fed up with the treatment of the characters by
the majority of Marvel writers.  Punisher was a great character, especially
when he was fighting drug dealers and gangs.  But then he started fighting
characters like Doctor Doom and hitching rides on stolen nuclear submarines
and the space shuttle!  There's only so much I can take.  So to save myself
the frustration (not to mention a good chunk of $) I said to hell with
Marvel.  There are a lot of other good titles that I can spend my money on
instead of picking up issue after issue of the same crap, hoping the stories
will get better.
	All I want to know is why doesn't Marvel create a whole new character
instead of screwing big time with the one they already have (in the case of
Moon Knight)?



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Xref: sparky rec.arts.comics:13131 alt.manga:1329
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:22:24 GMT
From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,alt.manga
Subject: Re: The rec.arts.{comics.}manga wars continue
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney

hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades) writes:
 >    Fine, but do the pages have words with corresponding depictions of
 >charcters and scenery used to tell a story?

Yes, and so do Little Golden Books.

Total reversal!  I now want rec.arts.little-g-books.comics.manga...


 >Site admins
 >like things that will make their lives easier, and rec.arts.comics.manga
 >is easier to deal with than rec.arts.manga.

Workload for site admins ain't much of a reason for incorrectly naming
the newsgroup.


--
Iain Sinclair   axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au                             ne cede.
From: MSH109@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Abortion in Comics
Date: 12 Apr 92 01:27:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Penn State University

I believe Comico's Elementals #18 was about one of the heroes (Morningstar) abo
rting the child she was impregnated with by a villan (Shapeshifter). It's prett
y wierd...



rebis
From: jbritz@brahms.udel.edu (Joseph Edward Britz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: rec.arts.comics
Date: 15 Apr 92 03:14:04 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Delaware
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 08:50:11 CDT
From: <U16244@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Marvel's overused lines
 <6APR199218590717@rigel.tamu.edu> <1992Apr7.185716.17967@njitgw.njit.edu>
 <1992Apr8.013506.17677@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
 <92098.234501ST02183@auvm.american.edu>

In article <92098.234501ST02183@auvm.american.edu>, <ST02183@auvm.american.edu>
says:
>
>I've noticed the one about the psychic knife. Not only is it annoying,
>it's stupid. Why waste time explaining it, just use it.
> It could be worse. Ever read old LSH stories from the 50's and 60's
>(yeah, the "classic" ones). Each character always began by saying
>"I Cosmic Boy, will use my control over magnetism to stop that runaway
>train" or "I Saturn Girl will use my mind-reading powers to make them
>think this is good writing even though the author is only 15 years old."
>(Just kidding, no flames necessary.)
>Jason-st02183@auvm (Long Live the Legion!)

Well, I always went for the psyche-out approach in terms of power usage.
One of my favorite characters that I've created (the Luminator, mentioned
previously) always like doing brain scramble maneuvers whenever he's fighting
some foe, merely because his powers are so versatile (light control and
manifested latent psionics).

"Aha!  I shall simply teleport behind you and trash your matterperion
machine while you're still reacting to my disappearance!" Luminator.
"Wrong!" Destructo.  Destructo whirls, sees an image of the Luminator over
his matter machine and fires his most powerful energy blast, totalling the
machine.  He then is tapped on the shoulder.
"Uh, excuse me Vince, but since when have I ever demonstrated teleportation?"
"Awwwwww crud."
POW

Doug.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
From: picard@IASTATE.EDU (David B Roy)
Subject: Re: Stop blaming Marvel!
Keywords: stop blaming Marvel
Reply-To: picard@IASTATE.EDU (David B Roy)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:47:03 GMT

In article <BXsqiB2w164w@jwt.UUCP>, bbs-vampire@jwt.UUCP (Aaron Leitch) writes:
> I don't get it.  All of you guys are comic collecters right?  So, why do 
> you keep saying how bad Marvel is getting?  If it's so bad, STOP 
> COLLECTING!  And, if you want to say why a comic sucks, tell us exactly 
> why.  Is the idea behind the character stupid.  His/her personality?  The 
> writting?  The art?  Come on guys, be professional about it.  Give Marvel 
> something they can work with if you want it fixed.
> 
> Until Ghost Rider is caught "dead" on a tricycle...
>      MAKE MINE MARVEL!!!!

I don't know about anybody else, but I bash Marvel while reading my
unenlightened :-) friends' copies.
Actually, I have nothing against Marvel, and will read friends' copies without
too much qualm, but they aren't doing anything that I'm particularly interested
in.  (And I've seen copies of X-Force, the art and story are terrible.)
 
Dave Roy
From: vanor@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: The new Deathloc
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:50:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: vax1.1992Apr8.125008.1678
Organization: Mankato State University

I think whoever wrote "deathloc - ?" needs some serious help personly I am
sick of these so called "heros" who when they are faced with a problem that 
they can't overcome they kill it.  Then along comes Deathloc who says that "you
must do what is right not what is easest" to me that is what makes a real hero 
and real man, someone who will stand up for what is right no mater the cost
(see isu 7).  I think it's about time that Marvel has brought back a hero with 
some morals and isn't going out on a Killing spree.

Vanor - " With great power comes great responcabilty " Spider-man
From: cole@lea.csc.ncsu.edu (Robert Cole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Flash year 1 --- yawwwnnn
Date: 11 Apr 92 17:47:46 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University

mamcconnell@happy.colorado.edu writes:

>What doany of you think about the return of Jay Garrick, age 50ish, to the
>DC universe?  He will now be the fastest man alive, since it was stated in
>one of the annuals/specials that his speed was light speed level, while
>Wally's is currently in the neighborhood of sound.  Maybe Jay will give
>Wally that reflective speed that he used to get from Barry.

Not too long ago, there was a throw-away line from Jay's wife about how
Jay had said that hanging out with Barry and Wally made him feel faster.
Perhaps he was being "powered" by Barry as well.

Robert Cole
From: gmf2@quads.uchicago.edu (gary michael feldman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Rogue's and Cyclops' control of powers
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:05:46 GMT
Reply-To: gmf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Apr13.193929.1271@bvc.edu> stougheric@bvc.edu (The Wease) writes:
>
>	Oops, got so wrapped up in typing this, that I *FORGOT* the
>main point of the post...Scott's, then-wife, Madelyne was affected
>by the beam and became capable to heal virtually any disease, injury
>whatever you can think of...she "healed" Cyke's inablity to control
>his power and it also did the same for Rogue.... 
>
>	Wease
>
So what happened????? (I have skimmed the X-men/AF crossover TP
but not that thoroughly).  I know that all that stuff that
maddie did reverted back to normal, but how and why?

ALso, what was the catch to Maddie's healing power????
(i.e. what did she sacrifice?)

Also, they ahve resolved how Maddie was affected, since she
really was a mutant (clone of Jean Grey).  Guess they
don't care that the retcon changed this little ditty.

Gary
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From: paladin@wpi.WPI.EDU (Ever Shifting Bearlike being...)
Subject: Re: MUTANT:  Rogue's powers
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 13:46:57 GMT

In article <FRANCIS.92Apr13193127@styracosaur.cis.ohio-state.edu> francis@styracosaur.cis.ohio-state.edu (RD Francis) writes:
>In article <1992Apr11.162959.4573@wpi.WPI.EDU> paladin@wpi.WPI.EDU (Ever Shifting Bearlike being...) writes:
> Rogue....
>	people who are immune... well.. Loki was only partially drained... as
>   was Mojo... and mephisto.... others that i have seen are wonder man, as he
>   is an energy being,  and the vision (tho he ain't alive) other than that i
>   have not seen any others...
>
>She seems to be able to pick up certain sorcerous abilities as well;
>in MARVEL TEAM-UP 150, she siphoned off part of the Juggernaut's
>powers, but was overwhelmed by said power (as opposed to by Cain
>Marko's persona itself, as I recall).

true... i'd forgotten about this... and to think i collected MTU for a while
wuite avidly too... (71 thru 150 and a few back issues before 71).. 
thanks for reminding me...
seems to me that juggersnot's abilities are still a part of him... even tho
they were granted my mystic energies... she cannot absorb energy.. otherwise
she would ahve absorbed both wonder man and the vision (both have loads of 
"ionic" energy inside an outer shell...)

>To me, this implies that (given she can steal both natural and
>acquired abilites, as well as memories) she could absorb Dr. Strange's
>abilities.  If there's is something unique to his physiognomy that
>allows him to cast spells, she would be able to duplicate it.  To the
>extent that his spell-casting abilities are based on his knowledge,
>she have that as well.  The only potential stopping block I can think
>of would be *organizing* the knowledge quickly enough to act on it.

no... take a look at something else we both forgot... the adversary.. when she
absorbed part of him, just the part that was naze'... she had enough knowledge 
to do the magic and then proceeded to do it... it is not just absorbing the 
memories... she absorbs the person... which is why when she absorbs a willing 
subject she has no problems using gained abilities and knowledge.. as an
take a look at the first and second time she absorbed storm... (way back.. 
think real hard now...  8)    )


 Paladin (ever shifting bearlike being....)	     
     Reality	       | " Wouldn't you laugh if your head exploded???  
 		       |	 No.... I guess you wouldn't.....	 
 paladin@wpi.wpi.edu   | I would."   (Nosage, June 91)
	
human is the foulest name i can ever call a person......
From: pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Here we go now...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Image: Youngblood 1-3 to be polybagged...
Date: 12 Apr 92 07:19:26 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>Various people at Image are now saying that
> Youngblood #1 2 + 3 will be released as a set
> in a polybag.  It seems possible that #1 will
> not be released separately, but the article
> was vague on that point.
>
>HWDC was not happy about this turn of events,
> and is encouraging its clients to write letters
> of protest to Rob Liefeld.

Everyone is crying foul to Marvel (and justly), but I think upstarts like
Image and Valiant are as much to blame for the Youngblood and Unity #0
garbage.  I know that most of you Liefield_zombies will still buy the crap, so
there's no stopping you.  They could probably bag 20 of them together (which
would probably take a day for Liefield to scribble down.  How hard are
background-less splash pages?) and you'd still buy them.  AT LEAST Valiant is
trying to put out well constructed storylines.

Independents are no better than Marvel in many cases.  They are just following
Marvel's lead by using what works for them.  It's up to us to say NO.

-- 

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From: lsmith@cs.umn.edu (Lance "Cogsworth" Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Sandman Movie?!?
Date: 12 Apr 92 01:23:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr12.012336.5189
Distribution: na
Organization: The Little Dreams of the Poor

In article <ewf2.703039302@Ra.MsState.Edu> ewf2@Ra.MsState.Edu (Eric "JUICE" Fritzius) writes:
>lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba) writes:
>
>>In the latest issue of Aboriginal SF, Susan Ellison's film column has
>>this comment:
>>"Adding to the list of growing comic book translations are an animated
>>_Elfquest:_The_Movie_ and a screen version of the successful DC comic
>>_Sandman_, written by Neil Gaiman."
>
>
>I'm not sure if I understand your post correctly.  Are you saying
>that the article said that the Sanman movie would be
>written by Neil Gaiman or are you saying that Sandman, by Neil
>Gaiman, is being developed into a movie written by someone else.

Using my special mutant power of misinterpreting posts, I'll guess that
Ellison meant the comic written by Neil Gaiman. There are several
Sandmen running about, including at least one horror novel, so the
distinction is helpful. (The thought of a Kirby Sandman film is somewhat
disturbing.) 

>The reason for my confusion is that Gaiman has recently said in
>an interview, in either Wizard magazine or Comics Scene, that
>he knew of the Sandman movie but would not be writing it
>or in fact getting involved at all.  He did say he would
>go see it. 

After his recent experiences with the Good Omens film project, I
doubt Gaiman would rush into any new film projects. 

I'd guess that the Sandman film is probably being handled by Miracle
films...

Now when can we expect to hear talk of a Sam and Max film?
-- 
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   (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)   | This turf of dynasty, this dugout of Kirby,
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        By Himself       | This dome built by Minnesota for herself"   Kelly II
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Subject: Re: rec.arts.comics.strips is here NOW
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Organization: The Institute for Criminal Science, Gizmonics Control
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 01:09:22 GMT

Just a note -- it hasn't propogated to all the sites yet.  Have mercy on
those who post strips-related articles on r.a.c for a week or two more,
until it gets out to the rest of the net.

                           "Oh, Captain Crunch Comfort Ring, help me out of
                            this awful jam."
                                           -- Joel, MST3K
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From: jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling)
Subject: Re: PEOPLE: Liefeld in LA Times
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 16:07:05 GMT

In article <1992Apr17.061544.19920@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews) writes:
>
>Man.  Y'know, it's no wonder ol Liefeld's artwork isn't improving. He must
>really think he's hot shit, so why bother to improve himself?
>
>Actually, who are we fooling?  He IS hot shit!  But he's so mainly for the
>same reason that the Young Cocky-Actor Kid of the Year is hot, for what
>he's done, not for how well he's done it.

I thought the art in Youngblood #1 was horrible and inconsistent, and probably
some of the worst art I've seen in comics.  Coupled with the worst writing in
comics, I'd have to say Youngblood #1 is the worst comic of all time.

It's not even worth elaborating on.

Grade:

Writing:  F
Art:      D-
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Asimov
From: <UD137927@NDSUVM1.BITNET> (David R. Henry)
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 21:13:33 CDT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network

Yeah, this ain't quite the proper newsgroup, but I hadn't seen any other posts,
and the subject matter of most comics is pretty much science fiction anyway,
so...

A fond farewell to Isaac Asimov, writer of lots of things. Rest in your
quiet, godless peace you talked about with no fear. Good bye.


david r. henry
From: rlawson@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: MARVEL: Is Marvel 2099 Stan Lee's 'World of Tomorrow'?
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:57:26 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada


	Peter A. David (or anybody else
who knows) is the Marvel 2099 line the
'World of Tomorrow' project that Stan
Lee has been working on?

Thanks in Advance,
	Ray Lawson
and Julian Castle (used 70% of my own 
account ALREADY &^%$) (still mooching)
From: joshm@pnet01.cts.com (Josh Mercer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Marvel's overused lines
Date: 12 Apr 92 23:16:08 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet01], El Cajon CA

ckc1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CEDRICK KIT CHAN) writes:
>>How about this overused line: "I'm the best there is at what I do, and what I
>>do best isn't very nice.  I have an adamantium-laced skeleton and claws and a
>>mutant healing factor..."  This one's used more often than the psychic knife
>>bit.
>
>    No the most overused and annoying line that I've read in all the X-books
>(especially the Claremont issues) is:
>
>            "Your funeral, bub!"

And there's more Claremontesque lines that I still shudder at:
"(blah-blah)..part and parcel of..."
"And you're a silver-tongued devil."
"Myocardial infarc--heart attack."


...and my most hated Chris Claremont dialogue line....:

    "I will tear open your breast and feast on your living heart!!!"

Argh.

"Nicole! Josh Mercer asked me out! Can you believe it?!" --Paige Fox
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From: gjh2j@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Jeff Hawkins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Suicide Squad Update
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:31:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: murdoch.1992Apr8.223140.19995
Organization: University of Virginia


   Could someone please tell me what has happened since the Phoenix Gambit?
Who's died, whats the current lineup,etc.  Is there a movement to keep the
book from cancellation. Someone suggested a coin-op game (hmmm) interesting
but a CD ROM game would be better (more characters to choose). How about
a shirt or poster (c'mon if Suicide Squid an have one, Suicide Squad should)


You help is appreciated



                                                   -Jeff Hawkins
From: orlando@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Peter J. Orlando)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: X-MEN TRAITOR ----> Why not Wolverine?
Date: 9 Apr 92 23:48:56 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

As I first posted this, I asked why not Wolverine.....
I do not want it is too obvious os\r stuff like that...
I want reasons for and against this possiblilty.
I think he could be it....

    He may betray them but still be a good guy still and have 
his own title...

   My reasons:

           memory is coming back

           although like family concept with X-men, has trouble with X-men  
authority ..

           has tons of killing experieince

           even said his personality maybe totally different now that 
memory is coming back

    Just a few.. will list more later..
I want to hear from others..

Peter
From: robi@bacchus.esa.oz (Robi Karp)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Blind Dates from Hell
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:22:15 GMT
Reply-To: robi@bacchus.esa.oz.au
Organization: Expert Solutions Australia

In article <1992Apr3.004643.3009@njitgw.njit.edu> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
: BTW, also in this story, Phineas T. Horton, who was working with the
: governments, examined the Vision and discovered that it wasn't really his
: android, which led the Avengers to uncover and revive the original Human
: Torch android, which is why he's around now as well.

Did they ever say where the vision came from then ?

	- Robi
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From: shobaki@chico.cse.ogi.edu (Khaldoun Shobaki)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: X-MEN : Tell me what I missed!
Date: 12 Apr 92 18:16:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.36181
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute - Computer Science & Engineering

In article <41030@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester) writes:
>In article <1992Mar18.200114.3360@gw.wmich.edu> 584lee@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>>I am a big fan of the X-men, or I used to be. The problem is I have lost 
>>track with them for about a year now. I am wondering if anyone of you 
>>could fill me in with what I missed. 
>
>Quick shoot him before he multiplies. I'm an X-fan as much as the
>next person, but this is ridiculous. How many times has this question
>be asked in the last two months?????

Hell, I have been reading X-men for the last 5 years and I still can't figure
out whats going on! All Ive figured out so far is that the Jean Grey chic
is damned hard to kill!

-Kal

many ;-)'s
From: afarrell@maths.tcd.ie (Andrew Farrell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: META: Saving Grace of all this crap
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:40:54 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.

In <2023@ra.nrl.navy.mil> ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host) writes:
>> Article <1992Apr14.051231.12997@sol.UVic.CA> From: jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling)

>> I'm usually glad that the school term is ending, but I'm more happy than ever

>> Most of the Marvel/Liefeld/X-Whathaveyou fans will disappear for four glorious

>Agreed.  I wouldn't mind them if they used consistant subject titles

>> Don't give me the old "if you want to talk about it, write about it" salt.

>> Direct flames to alt.go.away.little.boy.
>When do the Sandman fans go away?
>In June when high school gets out? ;-)

In ~June '93, when it ends. Actually, during the summer of '91, Sandman was 
consistly one of the largest threads on r.a.c. Funny thing is, Infinity Gauntlet
was the other.

Andrew.