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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Gleanings (76)
Date: 25 Jan 1993 21:02:39 GMT
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In a previous article, JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS () says:

>14) Foo Bird.  (John Wm.)

>there were also the WWII-era UFO's that were called "Foo-fighters" by USAAF
>personnel.  Partridge gives it as more-or-less a synonym for "gremlin" and
>credits it to Australian (!) sources.  I don't think so.  (BTW, does anyone

I wonder if it's a cousin to programming's Foo! ?  Probably not, as Foo is
supposed to be spelled Fu - as in the front end of fubar.:-)   Come to think
of it, a Foo Bird or a Gremlin *could* fubar things pretty well....

>21)  Dodge Geezer  (Graham)
>        Make and model of Ruth's car.
>
LIAR!  I drive a Chevy wheezer, not some horrible rust-pitted Dodge Geezer!
Putt would be insulted if it heard you call it that - fortunately, the PC's
out of its line of sight....  A Dodge Geezer, I am told, is better known as a
Dodge Dart, aka a more or less indestructible, and incredibly ugly, hunk of
Detroit iron, most commonly found in shades of olive drab, or puke green, 
although they have been seen in red.

-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
			- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
	      Where anything can happen, and it usually does
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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 15:33:01 CST
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>So you're suggesting Peter Montgomery is the anonymous SIVM poster?  But he
>wouldn't be such a gutless coward to hide behind an alias.

Ah, Toal, just posting ONE little thing from "natalie@pizzabox" has done it
to you. In a moment you will embark on ever more fascinating digressions,
and then where is one?

>I mean, he's a xtian for God's sake - stand up and be counted, and all
>that crap.

Where is the humour, where the first fine rapture of wit? With weeks of
this same dull formula from you, why shouldn't one say it's getting boring?
Now you might rightly say that this is actually a question of your sincere
rage at "xtians", but then, who really gives a tinker's cuss? Friend Mont-
gomery at least makes somewhat funny jokes from time to time. On the subject
of his general line of reasoning, I stay silent.

>  Very few people on this group would be that wimpy.  I can only think
>of one to be honest.

Just as you can think of one paranoid jerk, one asshole etc, right? "WIMPY"
you might well shout, Toal, but where is the mote?

tushar
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:36:56 +0100
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Answer to Natalie's Questions
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              22 Jan 93 08:24:53 -0500. <9301221428.AA03831@sics.se>

  >Attend this (you can stay at Torkel's place, I'm sure--it's so large,
  >after all!) and all your questions will be answered.

 Sure. However, you should know that Gothenburg is about five hours away by
train, and maybe three hours if you fly, including trips to and from the
airports.

 On the other hand, the X2000 train was mentioned on the list before, I
think. The first of these trains in Sweden run between Stockholm and
Gothenburg, and they're a bit faster than the regular trains.
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From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Maya's poem
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:40:16 GMT

>   I've got it!  From the soundtrack of -Doctor Dolittle-!

Still going...
--
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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Gilbert's History Question
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> I've already seen your announcement that you know you're right, so on with
> your History question.
>
> "Who told the U.S. Congress: "All I have I would have given gladly not to be
> standing here today"?"
>
> Carolyn
>
This sounds like a Vice Pres elevated to Pres by the death of a Pres, so
It must be Harry Truman or Lyndon Johnson, unless it is Andrew Johnson
or whoever succeeded McKinley.
Soooooo, having no idea which, I will guess:
      LYNDON BAINES JOHNSON
--ggs (dreading the Sports/Leisure question if he gets it....)
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:20:15 EST
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Subject:      Re: Spring is here
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Posted on 25 Jan 1993 at 13:19:20 by samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
>Nonsense. There is only one cunning linguist here, on whom mostly everyone
>has given up.

What?  You have given up on me?

Karen
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:00:52 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      The Rankings
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Eight people voted today on the eight sites.  And eight has always been
my favorite number.  Interesting.  I'm leaving the doggykins out of the
tally since somebody would probably say something horribly specist if I
included him, and that would hurt his feelings.  The following tally
represents votes by these people:  abh, bz, Chris S, Evelyn, Judith,
Karen, Natalie, Rashmi.

I had thought originally that a "No" by anybody for any one of the sites
would rule it out by blackball.  But that, alas, would rule out all eight
sites.  No site was without at least one "no."  Toronto was the only one
of the eight that received only ONE no, however.  All others received at
least two.

Toronto and Portland are neck and neck.  Of the people returning the forms,
either on the list or directly to me, 3 ranked Toronto #1, 1 ranked it #3,
and 1 ranked it #5.  On the returned forms, Portland received 1 #1 ranking,
1 #2 ranking, 1 #3 ranking, and 1 #6 ranking.  In addition, it received
2 votes from people who didn't use the form, thus putting it in a tie
with Toronto with 3 #1 votes.  Toronto received 1 no.  Portland received
2 nos.

Here's a quick summary of the other rankings:
Boone, NC: 5, 4, 2, no, no
Elsehwere, NC: 1, 4, 7, no, no
Edinburg, TX: 7, 8, no, no, no
Galway, Ireland: 1, 3, no, no, no
Elsewhere, Ireland: 2, 2, no, no, no
Starkville, MS: 6, 8, no, no, no

By a point system of 1=8, 2=7, 3=6, 4=5, 5=4, 6=3, 7=2, 8=1, and no= -5,
Toronto and Portland come out tied at 30.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:40:18 +1100
From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Yet Another Holiday Report
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This message brought to you by courtesy of netnews extraction. :-(

>>You could at least have said "Thank you Wombat for making the subject headings
>> so distinctive!" :-(
>
>But that is something I manage to say every time I comne across one of those
>messages!
>
>Adrian

Have you been mumbling then or am I getting hard of hearing?

Carolyn
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:41:22 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cloudy skies over Portland
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> This is the ATLANTIC OCEAN, Natalie--I'm not sure it's ever warm enough
> to swim.

Huh?  My Piscean body has spent many hours in the Atlantic Ocean through
the years.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:04:56 -0600
From:         Bandwidth Pig <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cloudy skies over Portland
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On Tue, 26 Jan 1993, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Since the '93 site is still up in the air, why don't we consider having
> it in Ireland?  Then we could all go down to London and stay with Graham.

Oh, do send me .gifs. I'll be at Russell Square Hotel while you all
imitate the action of the sardine. ;-)

-abh
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:04:11 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: outerbanks prices
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> > the ocean, and lots of other cool features rents for 1,050 bucks
> > in season.
> > Hey, sounds like the big chill or something doesn't it?
> <gulp>. That price chills me.

Is it per night or per week?  If per week, it's not bad -- when divided
by the number of people who could comfortably stay in one "cottage."  If
divided by the number who could reasonably stay in one, it's even better.
And if divided by the number who could possibly stay in one, it's dirt
cheap -- assuming there's a local Roto-Rooter Scot ready and waiting.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: Zeus to Narcissus
              23 Jan 1993 23:08:56 -0800 from <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>

>
>>  Was it something like "Let him who loves not others love himself"?
>
>Close, but no thunder bolt. See my reply to Ruth.
>
>Peter

 I saw it already.  I hate it when I fall for setups like that.
 All that earnest talk about Shakespeare's imagination and the
 Canadian handicap lobby sucked me right in.

 brad
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:47:07 GMT
From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: signoff
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:> not pizzabox.demon.co.uk (where incidentally I set up an ID for

:I thought I tried the new address and was rejected there also.  Just
:tried again, but pizzabox was unreachable.
:   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

It won't be unless I've dialled in.  Remember it's a SLIP connection.

Still, I'm on quite a lot, though that may change if the bills start
creeping up now I'm at home 5/7ths of the week...

G
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From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Shirt.gif
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>compromise, and dependent upon whether or not the BWH can do it for the
>same price and equal hassle, how about choosing a second t-shirt color for
>those not enamored with gray?  Let them fight it out amongst themselves as
>to which color it shall be.
>
>Whaddya'll think?  Reasonable?  Feasible?

I don't know for sure about the company we'll be getting the shirts from,
but the way it worked when we made the last batch, we had to buy batches
of at least a dozen of each color (and size!) or it got HORRIBLY expensive.

love, judith, who thinks grey is splendid!
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:51:51 GMT
From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Inauguration
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        Contemplating force-feeding Graham Anne Sexton and Sylvia Plath until
        he says "uncle."

"Hey, you're not my top!" ;-)

G
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:09:21 GMT
From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Cloudy skies over Portland
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: Since the '93 site is still up in the air, why don't we consider having
: it in Ireland?  Then we could all go down to London and stay with Graham.

Two good reasons why not.

1) I don't live in Eire.
2) Bill does.

G
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:11:22 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: From the Annals of Poetry
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Yeesh--that't the third time on this list alone. I wondered why usenet got
so stinking slow in the last 24 hours. Tellya what: I'm gonna put that
poem in my .plan, and anytime anyone wants to read it, they can finger
harwell@tenet.edu.

-abh
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:16:38 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: New Attorney General

>I thought Hillary looked fabulous in that hat.

De gustibus, as they say.

-K

-Mka
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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:18:48 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Asians

>>problem. "Middle Easterners" are fine, "Asians" are fine, but somehow
>>neither includes India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka, and
>>a little bit to the west, say Afghanistan and perhaps even Iran. Iraqis
>> ...
>
>This is a near-perfect mapping of usage (minus the Greek business).  But
>why is what to call Indians a problem?  You call them Indians.  Pakistanis
>and Afghanis et al. are called by their names.  So what if "Middle Easterners"
>or "Asians" excludes them?  Linguistic illogic.

Being excluded from "Asian" is not much of a problem. But I do feel the
need for a word for (for want of a better word) "Indian subcontinental".

Afghanistan doesn't really fit in, by the way.

tushar
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From:         ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM
Subject:      Re: Torture, again.

> :The teaching and learning part is what is most horrifying.  HOW that
> :is done is beyond me.  How do you convince other people, and how do
>
> Read the Stanley Milgram stuff that Karen referred to.  It takes about
> an hour to turn the average American into a vicious killer.  It's no
> surprise the AMA banned all such research from that time on.  (The

ONLY an American, are are we talking about a more wide-ranging HUMAN
problem here?

Ken
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 16:14:24 EST
From:         Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: signoff
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              93 6:31 pm

> not pizzabox.demon.co.uk (where incidentally I set up an ID for
> rashmi when she griped the other day about feeling left out,
> but  haven't seen her try to use it yet.  Maybe she deleted that
> mail unread :-( )
>
> G

Hey, I do not delete mail from you unread!  I didn't realize you'd paid
any attention to my whiney note, thanks.  Will try it out pronto.

-rashmi
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 01:36:45 EST
From:         Tony Harminc <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Inauguration
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Posted on 20 Jan 1993 at 13:49:22 by Emily Horning

>Thank god for that! I kind of liked his "forcing the spring" expression,
>though; seem as though we're going to be in for a lot of gardening metaphors
>in this administration (forcing the spring, growing the economy), etc.

And the next batch of bombs dropping on Baghdad will be - let me see - the
"pesticide of continuity".  And turning back the Haitian boats could be
"keeping the soil free of encroaching weeds" or something.

And -abh is worried about the Dems being soft on things...

Tony H.
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:21:00 PST
From:         "Emily J. Horning" <IBJQEJH%UCLAMVS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      WORDS-L TP: Carolyn's Art/Literature Question

Yuri Gagarin was correct, of course.

What game does the Queen of Hearts order Alice to play?

You rolled a five, so if you're correct, you can move through the center and
pick any category, or head around the board to Science.

Emily
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:12:56 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: signoff
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From: Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
>
> Whoever suggested that is precisely the type of person who doesn't belong
> on Words-L. To borrow a phrase from GT, they're overly anal-retentive
> pillocks.
> In short, they can go stuff it.
> -abh

The image of stuffing overly anal-retentive pillocks is quite entertaining.
At the other end, I suppose, one might tell an overly diarrheic doxy to
loosen up a bit.

On the other hand, supposing it wasn't a person on words-l, but a former
words-ler on another list, or even one of our system managers? We are
desparately short of disk space right now.

Peter
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:07:15 -0600
From:         Bandwidth Pig <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cloudy skies over Portland
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On Tue, 26 Jan 1993, G wrote:

> offer.  Mind you, I might well drop by if I'm visiting Houston anyway (it
> *was* Houston SG was spending the summer in, wasn't it bwp?)

Yup, ah reckon so.
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:03:53 EST
From:         EL406041@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU
Subject:      Re: Thanks for the words
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Posted on 25 Jan 1993 at 18:35:51 by Entropy Warrior
>Thanks to all of you for being so wonderfully weird.

Ditto to you, Ausbrook.:)  And Happy Birthday!

Karen
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 09:14:25 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: signoff
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On Sat, 23 Jan 1993, Rita Marie Rouvalis wrote:

>         Indeed.  Netiquette is a subtle thing to understand, and
> varies from electronic community to electronic community.

My god, what did he *do* to you over there--suck your brains out of your
eye socket with a straw?

-abh
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:48:00 EST
From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Thunderbird
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> We'd better, because the next one is:
> I've heard that Stop & Shop will merge with A & P.
>
> --bayla (oldie -are- goodies)

And the major competitor of Stop & P was supposed to be the new
merger of Piggly Wiggly and HEB (a Texas food store chain established
by Howard E. Butt) ....  These go back at least to the '50's....
Only -bayla and -ggs and an other select few were there at the
creation.
--ggs
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:57:00 JST
From:         Akio Tanaka <TANAKA%JPNSUT20.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Gleanings (76)

[ 1 ]  A/in a/per/every/each week.

Are the following sentences exactly the same in meaning?
If not, how different are they from each other?

1) How much do you spend a week?
2) How much do you spend per week?
3) How much do you spend in a week?
4) How much a week do you spend?
5) How much do you spend every week?
6) How much do you spend each week?

[ 2 ]  Gleanings (76).  Any info will be appreciated.

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 1) TBBOM (Graham)
 2) Jug o' warm spit (Graham)
 3) Thunderbird (Gilbert)
 4) "Wolly-Bully" (John Wm.)
 5) Knute Rockne/Rocky Bleier/Stone Phillips/Pebbles Rubble/Chris Rock/
    Rocky the Flying Squirrel/Kenesaw Mountain Landis/Rick Mount/
    Rocky Nelson/Alex Rocco/Tom Shales/Horst Buchholz/Phil Silvers/
    Rocky Raccoon (Neal)
 6) Yahoo Serious's aunt/Tandy's bag (Carolyn)
 7) To symlink (Sue V.)
 8) Corporate Disclosure (Ken W.)
 9) Roger Penrose (Tushar)
10) John Hinckley (Evelyn)
11) Liberty Valence Effect (John Wm.)
12) Amy Lynn Hull/Maurits Escher (Tushar)
13) Guido Sarducci (Blomberg)
14) Foo Bird (John Wm.)
15) Three-inch John Henry (?)
16) Rubber and Park commands (Ruth H.)
17) "The Lord of the Dance" (Graham)
18) Parker Brothers/Clue (Joan)
19) John MacLaughlin (Neal)
20) "Anatomical Gift" form (Marty)
21) Dodge Geezer (Graham)
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From:         Tony Harminc <TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      Useful FAX Number

From the same source:

>  Need divine intervention?  You can use this NON-toll-free FAX number:
>      011-972-261-2222
>to call the Israel National Telephone Co. in Jerusalem, and they will
>place your FAX into the Wailing Wall.  I heard this one on KFI AM radio
>yesterday, and the KFI guys were collecting "questions for God" and promised
>to send the questions as one FAX.  No comment on how you would recognize a
>response.  /john

Tony H.
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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 16:41:05 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: Spring is here

>And, as I said before, somewhere there is a .gif of Peter's May and
>May's Peter.  Check it out.

My god, someone write a program which posts a token "ROFL" followup to
this dude's jokes. May we hope to hear the end of this bullshit, gig?

tushar
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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 14:10:19 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Spring is here
Comments: To: WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

> Depraved May wants to know if you're serious?

I see that Peter and I had the same reaction to abh's posting.  (I'm
behind in mail.  Just got back to my real computer and haven't been
online since last night.)
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)