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From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Control-L and Control-S question
Date: 2 Jan 93 19:02:41 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <1i3blfINNcka@tamsun.tamu.edu>, sean@cs.tamu.edu (Sean Graves) writes:
> Could somebody please explain what the difference is between Control-L
> and Control-S inputs on Sony VCR's?  According the the Sony literature,
> the SLV-R5 has Control-S input and output and Control-L jack.
> The SLV-696 has Control-S input, but apparently not Control-L.
> 
> According to Jeff Killeen's  "FAQ Sony products / 8mm products V1.0"
>    LANC [or Control-L] is a bi-directional "data bus".
>    It passes both commands (Pause, rew, play, ect.) and status information
>    (h:mm:ss, recorder status, ect.). 
> 
> How does this compare with Control-S?  I am getting a TR-101, and would
> like to have some minimal editing capability.  Will the 'Flying erase'
> on the SLV-696 coupled with Control-S be enought to do the job?   What
> more will the Control-L buy my?  
> Lastly (and I can call around on this one for details), what is the
> price difference to expect between these two units?

Control-S is a UNI-DIRECTIONAL command port.  That is why devices like the
SLV-R5 have a Control-S IN and a Control-S OUT port.   Control-S IN will 
accept all the commands that your remote sends.  The problem is that it won't 
give you any feedback on the status of the unit.

Control-L is a BI-DIRECTIONAL command jack.  That is why you only see one LANC 
jack on any device.  The Control-L jack will at a minimum accept all the 
commands on your remote.  It will also feedback status information like 
H:MM:SS.

Will your SLV-696 and TR101 serve as a basic editing system?  Yes and No.  No
you can't plug a Control-S port into as Control-L jack.  Yes if you buy
something like a RM-E/80/100/300/700 editor and the SLV-696 has a Control-S IN
port.  You can then play from the TR-101 and record on the SLV-696.  With the
RM-E300 doing manual non-assemble edits you should get about +/-3 frames of
accuracy. 

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: mds5142@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.D. Shepherd)
Subject: Is S-VHS dead?
Originator: mds5142@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:06:29 GMT

Is it safe to say that Super-VHS is dead?  I'm not sure how long it's been
available, but they are very hard to find and most people seem to be
buying Hi-fi VCR or LaserDisc players right now.  Doesn't S-VHS give a
better picture than even a LaserDisc player?  I've never seen a video
store that rents S-VHS tapes, but some are beginning to rent
LaserDiscs.  Does anybody out there own a S-VHS player?

Mike
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From: msiegall@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (MARC SIEGALL)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Polk 5 Jr. for Sale
Date: 22 Dec 92 01:17:55 GMT
Reply-To: msiegall@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: oavax.csuchico.edu

I have a Polk Audio 5 Jr. speaker for sale.  If you have Polk Monitor
series main speakers, and want a center surround speaker, this just may
be the ticket.  (I used to use it as my center speaker, until I got new
main speakers.)

Please e-mail replies.
******************************************************************************
Marc Siegall                     MSIEGALL@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Department of Management
California State University      (916) 898-5421
Chico, CA 95929-0031
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From: v120q4jf@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Vax Crazie (ROB B.))
Newsgroups: rec.video,misc.consumers
Subject: Re: transferring film to video
Date: 24 Dec 92 05:13:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Dec23.222509.20684@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov>, smjeff@lerc05.lerc.nasa.gov (Jeff Miller) writes...
>I am interested in transferring several old home movies from film reels
>onto videotape.  Are there any "preferred" methods of doing this?  The 2
>ways I can think of to do this are :
>1) Project the movie onto a screen and tape it with a video camera.  
>2) Transfer the movie frame by frame with a video camera capable of taking
>single frames.  Since the film was shot at 24 fps and the video uses 60 fps
>I would need to take 2 video frames of the first film frame and then 3 video
>frames of the next film frame, and then 2,3,2,3,etc.
> 
>Are there any better ways of doing this?  Thanks.


Well use the screen method unless it turns out to be very bad picture quality.
Make sure you don't buy an Ambico converter because they're very bad!  I have
one and it doesn't work right.  converters are about 60 bucks these days.

________________________________________________________________________________
........>>Rob                                 v120q4jf@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu 
________________________________________________________________________________
From: weinhous@castor.hahnemann.edu (Martin S. Weinhous Ph.D.)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: A Home Theater (Q)
Date: 27 Dec 1992 20:05:26 -0500
Organization: Hahnemann University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: castor.hahnemann.edu

I am starting to set up a home theater (bit-by-bit). Eventually it will
include ...
    29-35" TV
    VCR (VHS or S-VHS, with Hi-Fi sound and MTS Stereo)
    A/V Receiver (Pro Logic Surround Sound)
    Speakers (rears and center and either full-range mains or sub-
	     woofer with more modest mains)
    Combi (audio and video) disc player

For a variety of reasons (existing stuff), I'm going to start with the
VCR. I do expect to do a lot of time shifting and to view rental tapes.
I do not own or plan to buy a camera and I do not expect to do any video
editing. If I buy a S-VHS unit, it is necessary that it be able to both
record and play standard VHS. I am considering the following VCRs and
would greatly appreciate comments from folks who have experience with
these units. Since I HATE to take equipment in for any sort of repairs,
I am also very interested in comments on repair records. Information on
cost and suppliers would also be helpful.
    Mitsubishi
	HS-U57, U67 and U82 (Do I infer correctly that the 82 does not
			    yet incorporate some of the convenience
			    features of the 57 and 67?)
    Panasonic
	PV-4262, 4264, S4266, S4270
    Sony
	SLV-585HF, 595HF, 696HF, R5UC (Again, Do I infer correctly that
				      the R5 does not yet incorporate
				      some of the convenience features
				      of the VHS models?)
Lastly, in case it would help in commenting on the above, I am considering
the following equipment for the rest of my home theater...
    TV: Mitsubishi or Panasonic (Gaoo) or Sony (XBR or XBR**2)
		  (Can the "main" speakers on any of these sets be used
		  as the Pro Logic center speaker?)
    A/V Receiver: Sony (maybe ES) or Yamaha (RX-V850 or ???) or ???
		  (Should I be influenced by the existance or not of a
		  sub-woofer output on the receiver?)
    Speakers:  Don't have a clue!
    Disc Player:  Panasonic LX-1xx or Sony 455 or ???

When "the fog clears" I will post a summary to the net.

Thanks in advance.

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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: "peter hempel" <peter.hempel@canrem.com>
Subject: Sony Hi 8 edit system
Reply-To: "peter hempel" <peter.hempel@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 2 Jan 93 21:52:11 EST


Does anybody have any info on the Sony model EVO-9700 Hi 8 edit
system? Bye for now.

Peter

         Ajax, Ontario, Canada | UUCP: canrem!peter.hempel
         Fido: 1:229/15        | Internet: peter.hempel@canrem.com

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From: tquinn@heartland.bradley.edu (Terry Quinn)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: I finally got my camcorder by mailorder (long)
Date: 28 Dec 1992 17:34:14 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Reply-To: tquinn@heartland.bradley.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu



> I've got a TR45 (yeah, it's old, but it works GREAT and i'm happy).  I
> too have this problem with the motor noise from the zoom and autofocus
> which is actually quite annoying while filming quiet scenes (nature
> scenes for example).  I also don't like the way the microphone 'focuses'
> or rather it's lack of focus.  If I zoom in on something the mic doesn't
> zoom in, but rather picks up local sound (including zoom and autofocus).
> 
> I thought they would have fixed this problem in the newer models.  I 
> suppose I could use an external mic, but what a pain.
> 
> Has anyone else had this problem?  Anyone have a way around it?
 
The Sony TR101 and its sibblings has a feature called a "zoom 
microphone."  When you have the camera set in the normal 
microphone position, the left and right stereo microphones pick up 
the sound.  When you manually switch to the zoom microphone, it 
continues to use the two side microphones when shooting at wide 
angle, but gradually switches to what appears to be a third center 
mounted microphone as you move toward telephoto.  I have used this 
at football games, and it does result in a moderate increase in 
the sound coming from a huddle when you are zoomed in in the zoom 
mike position.  However, the difference is not huge, so you should 
not expect this to act like a parabolic reflector. 

--
                                    Terry Quinn
                                     Germantown Hills, IL
                                      tquinn@heartland.bradley.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.photo,misc.forsale
From: ychen@hubcap.clemson.edu (Eric Chen)
Subject: Re: 4 Sale: Sony Still Video Camera $400
Organization: Clemson University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:36:58 GMT


Thank you for all the information you provided, I really appreciate it.
I am sorry I posted the wrong information since I don't know much about
it.

However, it has been sold, no longer available.

Thank you for all the replies.

Eric
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: meg5184@hertz.njit.edu (Starman)
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.releases
Subject: * Looking for these rare demo laser discs
Date: 28 Dec 92 22:24:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.
Originator: meg5184@hertz.njit.edu

I'm looking for the following laser discs. They're rather rare, but I'm
willing to pay anything reasonable for them:

Basic Instinct/Universal Soldier trailer disc
Terminator 2 trailer disc
THX Demo Disc "WOW!"

If anyone can tell me where to get them, or if you are selling one,
please e-mail me.

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Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.photo,rec.arts.books
From: levay@stsci.edu (Zoltan Levay)
Subject: Re: Photo CD
Originator: levay@lithops.stsci.edu
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:44:49 GMT


In article <13731@optilink.COM>, cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
|> Per is right.  When I first learned to program computers, I used
|> seven track tape drives.  I have no idea where I would find one of
|> those today -- and it's only been 20 years since seven track tape
|> drives were used in a surprising number of places.  A hundred years
|> from now, the only seven track tape drives, and perhaps the only
|> nine track tape drives, will be in museums.  Whether they will be
|> useable is very debatable.

There is a difference, subtle though it may be.  How many reel-to-reel
tape drives (other than audio) have you seen in private homes?  For
better or worse, Photo-CD is aimed largely at the home mass-market.
Just imagine, if Kodak floods the market with Photo-CD players and
other hardware (admittedly difficult to imagine at their current
prices) there still might be some around in the future of SuperHDTV and
home supercomputers.  And the labs of service bureaus such as those now
making significant income transferring home movies to video (I'll pass
on the value judgement of that activity :-).  That's certainly not to
say that the CD format _will_ be around for very long -- actually, I'd
be surprised if it were.  However, we do still have black and white
TVs.  And it's not really that hard to find something on which to play
78 RPM records, is it?  And people _still_ use Apple IIs, after all.
:-)
-- 

  						Zolt
  						levay@stsci.edu
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From: jeh@cmkrnl.com
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.audio
Subject: Re: S-Video conversion
Date: 30 Dec 92 04:38:43 GMT
Organization: Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego, CA

In article <1992Dec29.233704.29643@gvl.unisys.com>, garyp@rmtc.paramax.com (Gary Palangian [RMTC/ISP]) writes:
> In article <184728@pyramid.pyramid.com>, lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell) writes:
> |> 
> |>    Laserdisks with S-video outputs have to internally convert the
> |>    video signal to the S-video format.  This added function always
> |>    adds cost....and GOOD conversion costs more than cheap
> |>    conversion.   
> 
> Does anybody know of an outboard converter with composite
> video (via RCA phono plug) in and S-video out?  I could
> really use a couple of those little boxes.

Why???

I've never heard of anything that had *only* Y/C (S-video) inputs.  A composite
video input is always present as well.  There is no advantage in doing the Y/C
separation in a seperate box.  (Unless you want to manipulate the Y and C 
signals separately...)

However, if you really want this, you can get it in any of several a/v 
switching boxes.  I have an NEC unit that provides Y/C out from comp. input;
unfortunately NEC has gotten out of the consumer video market in the u.s.
JVC has a current model that will do this. 

	--- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego CA
Internet:  jeh@cmkrnl.com, hanrahan@eisner.decus.org, or jeh@crash.cts.com
Uucp:  ...{crash,eisner,uunet}!cmkrnl!jeh
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: peterli@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (Peter Li)
Subject: FYI, a brief review of Pioneer CLD-M401 player
Keywords:  LD, Pioneer, multi-CD
Organization: Johns Hopkins Univ. Welch Medical Library
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 03:11:30 GMT


Pioneer CLD-M401: Multi-Play CD, CDV/LD Player

Source: Camera Sound
Cost:   469.00
S/H:     28.00
Ins:      9.06
Notes: Not the cheapest place for this player, but the closest to where 
       I live. I called 4pm Dec 23rd, it arrived the next day by UPS 
       ground (almost as good as Next Day).  The only problem is that 
       they did not double box the unit, i.e. shipping label on the
       original Pioneer box.

Input/Output:
Audio:  2 sets of L/R and 1 mono (for optional RF modulator)
        1 optical digital output (untested)
Video:  2 RCA/direct out
        1 S-Video (untested)
Control: Pioneer System remote control in/out jacks and
         Pioneer CD/Cassette synchro jack

Play Modes:
CAV has forward and reverse scan, freeze frame, multi-speed slow/fast-mo,
    chapter and frame search, chapter/frame # display.
CLV has forward and reverse scan, no freeze frame, no slow/fast-mo,
    chapter and time search, chapter/time display.
CDV can't test, no disk available
CD  has forward and reverse scan, track and time search, no index search.

Random (shuffle) play over LD chapters, over 5 CD's or, in 1 CD.
Hi-Lite/Intro play LD (all chapters), 5 CD's (track 1 of all disks),
                   1 CD (all tracks).

Changing CD's require ~15 seconds.
Does not change sides for LD's (one-sided player).

Program over chapters/track (untested yet).
Repeat over chapters/track (untested yet).
Unable to test TOC features for LD's.

Can select Digital or Analog and Left or Right Audio.

Remote Control:
Functions:
    Holds most working commands for the unit.
    Remote Power On/Off.
    Eject act as Stop and Eject (on 2nd press).
    no Close tray button (use Play instead).
    no Hi-Lite/Intro (should be on the remote, but not).
    "Shuttle" duplicates forward and reverse scan.
Ergonomics:
    Tolerable (but then I hack sendmail.cf sometimes :-)
    I needed 2 hours to go throught the features on the remote
    and I still haven't tried the programmed play mode.

Player Unit Only:
    Demo, not very exotic
    Hi-Lite/Intro,
    ADLC (automatic digital level control) for 
        compensating different recording levels in CD's.

Display on Unit is adequate for player status, but can also use
TV for display with ubiquitous blue background.  Unfortunately 
with CAV LD, you can't find out time played/remained on chapters.

Reliability: who knows...I am leaving it to my college-going brother
to beat on it over the Xmas break.

Opinion:  I based my decision for LD player on how I used my VCR:
mostly movies with full run through, very little special effects used.
So I can tolerate the loss of freeze and slow/fast-mo on CLV.
Since this was also planned to replace my old Yamaha single-CD player,
the 5-CD player is a nice feature.

Peter Li
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.audio
From: garyp@rmtc.unisys.com (Gary Palangian [RMTC/ISP])
Subject: Re: S-Video conversion
Organization: Paramax Systems
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:16:53 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.203843.1041@cmkrnl.com>, jeh@cmkrnl.com writes:
|> In article <1992Dec29.233704.29643@gvl.unisys.com>, garyp@rmtc.paramax.com (Gary Palangian [RMTC/ISP]) writes:
|> > Does anybody know of an outboard converter with composite
|> > video (via RCA phono plug) in and S-video out?  I could
|> > really use a couple of those little boxes.
|> 
|> Why???
|> 
|> I've never heard of anything that had *only* Y/C (S-video) inputs.  A composite
|> video input is always present as well.  There is no advantage in doing the Y/C
|> separation in a seperate box.  (Unless you want to manipulate the Y and C 
|> signals separately...)
|> 

I didn't think I'd get by without an explanation  :)

I have two VHS VCR's, one S-VHS VCR, and a LaserDisk with S-Video.
My TV (a JVC) will only accept external video from its composite
or its S-Video jacks.  If you have plugs in both, it will only
listen to the S-Video.  No problem, I simply use the S-Video outputs
from my reciever (Pioneer 9700).  But the receiver will not convert
composite to S-Video.  Composite In/Composite Out or S In/S Out.
So in order to reconcile
   1) Centralized switching control of all video via receiver.
   2) Receiver inability to convert composite to S-Video.
   3) Inability of TV to listen composite and S-Video.

I think I have to convert the outputs from my non S-Video video
components to S-Video before they enter my reciever.

(I guess its pretty clear why I tried to get by without an
explanation.)

|> However, if you really want this, you can get it in any of several a/v 
|> switching boxes.  I have an NEC unit that provides Y/C out from comp. input;
|> unfortunately NEC has gotten out of the consumer video market in the u.s.
|> JVC has a current model that will do this. 
|> 
   Is this JVC box you talk about designed for this purpose, or
   is it part of a enhancement system or receiver?  JVC sales
   says they don't build any video switchers that do this.  Do you
   have a model number?

|> 	--- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego CA
|> Internet:  jeh@cmkrnl.com, hanrahan@eisner.decus.org, or jeh@crash.cts.com
|> Uucp:  ...{crash,eisner,uunet}!cmkrnl!jeh


Thanks,

Gary P.







Newsgroups: rec.video
From: multics@lachesis.acm.rpi.edu (Multics)
Subject: Video Review is back
Organization: The Voice of Fate
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 18:51:36 GMT

I recently received the 1993 Buyer's Guide and would assume other subscribers
will also receive there's.  According to the information that came with
it the old Video REview went under and has been bought out by another
publisher who is continueing the magazine.


-- 
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From: tquinn@heartland.bradley.edu (Terry Quinn)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: NiCd Batteries, Part 3/3
Date: 28 Dec 1992 17:33:34 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Reply-To: tquinn@heartland.bradley.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu



> >                NICAD CELL CHARACTERISTICS
> >                            by
> >                          W6WTU
> 
> Here's what I do:  When the batteries in a device are low, I remove
> them and put them into a discharger I built.  This discharger is simply
> a light bulb in series with a battery holder that holds 1 battery.  I
> discharge the batteries individually and then put them into the
> charger.  Is this good or bad?  I've toyed with adding a diode to
> the circuit so that the batteries only discharge to .7 volts instead
> of to 0 volts.
 
I've done this also, and at the suggestion of Mike Brown, directed 
the current against 3 diodes in series.  This keeps the battery 
pack from dropping below 2 volts. 
 
However, after reading some of this thread, I am wondering if even 
that is safe.  The above article indicates that if you take an 
individual cell below 1.1 volts, and it is a multi-cell pack, 
there is a chance of reverse charging the weakest cell.  If I 
interpret that correctly, a 5 cell battery such as a typical 
camcorder 6v nominal pack should not be discharged below 5.5 
volts, and you run the risk of damaging it if you were to take it 
down to 2 volts. 
 
Does anyone have some thoughts on this?  Even my camera manual 
says that it is good to discharge the battery fully by running it 
until the battery indicator comes on, but 5.5 volts doesn't seem 
very low.

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                                    Terry Quinn
                                     Germantown Hills, IL
                                      tquinn@heartland.bradley.edu
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