HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: akins@cis.ohio-state.edu (gregory adkins)
Subject: Need a sissy bar for an '81 650
Originator: akins@flamingo.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 03:27:27 GMT

I need a sissy bar for a 1981 Yamaha Maxim XJ650.  My local parts
store says that no one makes them anymore.  

So if you have one laying around that you would like to sell, send 
me E-mail.

-Greg Akins  Akins@cis.ohio-state.edu
From: ben@osc.COM (Ben Sloss)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Popping them
Keywords: high speeds, pucker factor
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:23:15 GMT
Organization: Versant Object Technology, Menlo Park, CA

In article [...] kolbjc@infonode.ingr.com (Chris Kolb) writes:
>
>When you guys master those low speed wheelies try this. Find
>a little drop off or rise on one of your favorite local roads.
>When the time is right try hitting it at the DoD minimum with
>just a light even tug of the bars. Believe me, there is nothing
>like the feeling of the front end floating in the air at that
>speed. 

Yes, indeed.  Along back straight at Laguna Seca racetrack, there is a small
dip between turns 6 and 7.  My CBR 900RR would wheelie at 120+ mph in 4th
gear every time I went over the dip, the front wheel going suddenly limp
for 200-300 feet before touching back down as the road curved up to meet it.
Quite a feeling.  The pucker marks on my seat took weeks to fade ...

>
>KOLB

-- 
Ben Sloss    ben@osc.com (415) 329-7500x172
Toys:        '93 CBR 900RR, '83 Nighthawk 650, '91 XR250L, '87 Mustang 5.0
Quote:       "It's all fun and games until someone gets paid."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Subject: Re: Harleys are OUT, Porches are IN!
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 12:25:00 GMT

In article <YuppieScum-180892174350@YuppieScum.dollars.dollars.COM>, YuppieScum@Dollars.more.more.COM (Yuppie Scum) writes...
>I cannot understand why any man with balls would ride a Harley
>Davidson motorcycle or any other motorcycle when the PORCHE
>is clearly the thing to have.  Dump those silly toys, little
>boys and get into the real thing.  PORCHES!!!!  Harleys,
>motorcycles, hah!  Whatdayagonna put your golf clubs in?

	PORCHES?!?  I guess they're made in STTTGART :-)

Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD.	SI=2.66     "You Stoop. Me pass!"	DoD #484
				     (Thanks, elef ;-)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: x1sdup@esparc19.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Stephen Dupre)
Subject: Re: Countersteering a shafty
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 20:12:52 GMT
Organization: Data General Corp.

In article <3524@tegra.COM>, hull@tegra.COM (Andy Hull) writes:
|> 
|> dana@locus.com (Dana H. Myers) says...
|> 
|> > Who else has discovered that countersteering does not appear to work
|> > correctly on shaft-drive motorcycles?
|> >
|> >  It must have to do with the counter-rotation of the shaft cancelling
|> > out the centripetal counter-steering force, but I'm not sure how the
|> > shaft-effect hike in the rear end contributes by altering the steering
|> > geometry. Maybe someone can clarify this for me.
|> > 
|> 
|>   With chain drive, when you roll on the throttle the rear end squats down
|> which will unload weight from the front end.  With shaft drive rolling on the
|> trottle will make the rear end stand up, which will transfer weight to the
|> front end.  When the front end is unloaded the forks are extended, which
|> increases the wheel base and changes the rake or trail (I forget which, or then
|> again maybe it's both).  These changes will affect the way the steering feels.
|> My exerience has been that chain drive bikes are easier to turn with the
|> thottle off and shaft drive bikes are easier to turn with the throttle on.  I
|> think it has more to do with changes in the lenth of the forks and the
|> rake/trial than centripetal force.  It seems that shaft rotation would only
|> have an effect when turning in the opposite direction of the rotation.  I have
|> never noticed this. 

 
I agree more or less with the information above.  My experience is that MOST shaft
drive bikes lift (with maybe the exception of the Paralever BMW).  For traction 
reasons, the rider should not be 'rolling on the throttle' in a turn because this
causes the rear suspension to extend (most shafts) and therefore decreases 
traction (less rubber on road).  So it's best to set a speed going into a corner
and maintain it.  Chain drive rear suspensions squat during acceleration.
It's still probably not advisable to 'roll on' in a corner with a chain drive
but it would have less adverse reaction than a shaftie.  Countersteering should
be OK unless the rider is either shifting or adjusting the throttle in the
turn or has a suspension problem.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum)
Subject: Re: Cleaning O ring chains
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:26:21 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester
Keywords: whatever???

anyone know if WD-40 is ok for cleaning O-ring chains?  a friend told me
Motorcyclist (or maybe Cycle World?) recommended it...

axel
From: kelton@ocf.berkeley.edu (Allen Kelton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Pushing LeadWings
Date: 17 Aug 92 02:40:55 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Aug16.180739.1018@msus1.msus.edu> stafford@msus1.msus.edu writes:
>Graeme asks:
> What is the farthest anyone has pushed a LeadWing?
>
>  Let's see, in 1978 I pushed one backwards 3 feet for a dude who
>  parked himself every so slightly head-downhill.  That was a tough
>  push.  I told him next time to call AAA.
>
>   ...and in my dreams, I've pushed one over a cliff.  Many times.
>
	I've gone about half a mile mildly uphill.  I've made it about 100
yards up a steep hill.  Usually its done to get it moving for popping the
clutch (I wish they kept the kickstarters).  I can usually get it done by
running alongside for 30-50 feet on level ground.  If I park it facing
downhill (not tough to do in Berkeley), I have a little dance I do to back
it out.  (Set legs in wide stance, pull hard with back/upper body/arms, grab
front brake, move feet back a few inches, repeat).  5 or 6 cycles of that
usually gets me into a drivable position.

kelton@ocf.berkeley.edu		DoD #198
Allen Kelton			1975/8 OldWings
From: rkou@corvus.ucs (Roger H. Kou)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Honda Helix or Elite
Date: 16 Aug 1992 11:21:01 -0700
Organization: USC Computing Services, Los Angeles
Distribution: rec
	<1992Aug15.202634.11800@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil>
	<RKOU.92Aug15173843@skat.ucs>
	<1992Aug16.143642.27576@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil>
NNTP-Posting-Host: corvus.usc.edu
In-reply-to: dsc3jfs@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil's message of 16 Aug 92 14:36:42 GMT


maybe I am seeing things, but I think I just saw some intelligence from
the military. humm, how scary... the navy too. oh boy... 

uh, so how much do you make, Mr. Small? or should I address you as the CO
of your command?!? Commander Small?!? humm so what's the penalty if you
aren't who you say you are?!? Get me the feds, there is got to be a law
against that somewhere. national security risk or something. this can be
big, can probably get me some $$$. humm... I need a plan. I want the $$$.

money money money money Mo'money Mo'money Mo'money

-RK
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman)
Subject: DoD Polo Shirts Are G R E A T ! !
Reply-To: grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 01:37:07 GMT


My hats off to Tony!  The shirts arrived this afternoon at my
house just in time for my trip to Portland.  

Question: How many Tek invitees to the Fred Meyer Golf Tourny
will be wearing white DoD Polo Shirts?

Answer: [you get three guesses]

The boys size 5 fits my 3 year old perfectly.  The Xtra Large fits
me perfectly, too.  Great job, Tony.  How about matching chinos? :-)

Thanks for doing this.  I know how much work one of these DoD
projects can be.  

-Gary


-- 
Gary Wasserman      "A completely irrational attraction to BMW bikes"
Interleaf, Inc.      Prospect Place, 9 Hillside Ave, Waltham, MA 02154
grw@ileaf.com        617-290-4990x3423 FAX 617-290-4970       DoD#0216
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rich@gtsi.com (Richard Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Kevin
Organization: Government Technology Services, Inc.
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 02:40:31 GMT

In article <RKOU.92Aug17110317@skat.ucs> rkou@skat.ucs (Roger H. Kou) writes:
>
>set everything aside, 
>
>1) why do you people don't like scooters?

Because they have all the bad traits of motorcycles, and none of the good traits. 
See point #3 below.

>
>2) do any of you own a scooter?(e.g. Honda Helix/Elite)

I'm sure several people do. I've ridden them before.
>
>3) are they bad?(i.e. is a bike better than a scooter?)

Yes, a bike is better. A bike has a) Taller wheels, allowing for better
cornering and running over road objects b) better get away speed c) often,
better brakes d) better looks and e) better visibility (although this is
relative, the cagers won't see you either way, but a small percentage will
take you seriously on the bike that wouldn't on the scooter).

Often, I consider scooters death traps. Some of them came make 60MPH on 
those little wheels - what happens when you hit something? Endo. They have
less area on the braking surfaces, and less rubber on the road, ergo, less
braking. Plus, they look silly.

On the plus side, they cost next to nothing to insure and get mind boggling
gas mileage. However, I would never own one. For one thing, at 6'3" and close
to 200lbs, they aren't built to carry me.
r

>
>I don't have money for a motorcycle. So I am looking to buy a scooter.
>I think it's a good way to get around the city. Any suggestions?
>
>thanks,
>
>-RK
>
>PS: there is no rec.scooter, is there?

No. (BTW: Take note. Ask an honest question, get an honest answer. Act like
a jerk, get flamed).
-- 
Rich Lawrence - "Stinger" - DoD#9630 '92 Seca II - Buckaroo Banzai lives!
Sysop/Hallucination: Full UseNet,Fido,Relay, 2GB+ IBM/Amiga  1-703-425-5824
  rich@halluc.com   CI$:71101,2272   Fido:1:109/345   GEnie: R.LAWRENCE14
                      "I'm fine" - Data, in DataLore
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: EuroDoD Meet
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:21:42 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Peter Ahlskog DC (ahle@anke.abo.fi) wrote:
: In article <16r5pgINN1u6@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> rogerc@discovery.uk.sun.com (Roger Collier - Sun - Coventry.) writes:
: 
:    Looks like the next EuroDoD meeting could be the IFMA Motorcycle Show
:    at Cologne, Germany at the end of September.
:    I shall be there on Saturday 3rd October.
:    Anyone else going, let me know.
: 
: 
:    Roger.Collier@Uk.Sun.COM		Sun Microsystems
: 					   Warwick University Science Park
:    (44) 203 692255				Coventry CV47HS
: 					   England
:    #############################################################################
:    # Where two or three are gathered together in my name, that's a DoD meeting #
:    #############################################################################
: 
: 
: OK! Let's be active NOW! I have no chance to be at a DoD-meeting this year
: except for in Anderstorp, Sweden, at the WSB-round 26-27th of september.
: 
: I got email from <butch+@transarc.com> == Butch Anton, who could be in
: Anderstorp for the saturday (had to leave for sunday) and another message
: from <ivan@erich.triumf.ca> == Ivan Reid, who said he could probably make
: it to Anderstorp, but was not sure about it.
: 
: So what are we going to do. Trash the whole thing, No DoD-meeting this
: year? Some of us visit Anderstorp, others visit the IFMA Show?!?
: 
: Suggestions? What would You be able to do, like to do? This Year!
: 
: 	Cheers...
: 
: 		Peter
: 
: 
: 
: 
: --
:  Peter "Ale" Ahlskog                            e-mail: ahle@anke.abo.fi
:  Computing Centre       Abo Akademi University  Phone:  +358-21-65*4472
:      "It's green, it's mean, it's mine and it's eating them alive"
:                         DoD: #138, ZXR 750 (Jolly)

I will try VERY hard to be in Sweden at that time, I would then be able to head on down to Koln for the IFMA show.  What about the rest of you Euro Uptight 
Bitches (tm) ?  Come on down!

My K and I definitely need a medium sized run so I will catch the Hovercraft to
Calais and trundle up from there.  Please Email me (biker@spuddy.uucp) the 
address and good routes to the meet.

Nick (the International Biker)        DoD 1069    MAG 73516

M'Lud.
From: twang@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Tony Wang)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harleys are OUT, Porches are IN!
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:59:12 GMT
Reply-To: twang@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Tony Wang)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <27448@sophia.inria.fr> weigl@sibelius.inria.fr (Konrad Weigl) writes:
	[My post of golf club locations deleted]

>Oh, you don't mean you have a set handcrafted by a 
>flown-in pro before every game?

	Takes too long to get use to the new clubs. Besides, it might ruin 
my 4 handicap, and I rather ruin it and blame it on a set of rentals than
tarnish the name of that pro 8-).......

>(Let's see how far we can get this thread outta rec.mot-galaxy...)

	Not too far I hope.

>Konrad Weigl               Tel. +33 93 65 78 63
>Projet Pastis              Fax  +33 93 65 76 43
>INRIA                      email weigl@sophia.inria.fr
>B.P. 93
>06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex 
>France

Tony Wang

DoD#0122					This sig under construction
AMA#450147				
					
twang@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Posted for Anonymous
Keywords: Humor????
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:29:28 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Aug13.222930.3751@news.columbia.edu> twang@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Tony Wang) writes:
>	<Posted muble jumble from an "Anonymous" person deleted>
>
>>0122:Tony Wang:NY:twang@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu:REALLY shouldn't be in
>>this group. I mean polo DoD shits?
>
>	Good thing whoever wrote this did it anonymously, or else I
>would be honored bound to wear my new Polo Shirt (whenever it comes
>in) and play Polo in the manner of my Mongolian ancestors, using his
>severed head as the ball. Of course, I have my suspects. 
 
It appears to be posted by someone who wouldn't change their underwear,
if they wore any.
 
>
>>0172:Gretchen Hitselberger:NY:gretchen@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu:REALLY
>>threatend to kill #0666
>
>	That was a dangerous give-away. Let's see #0666 = Lazslo.
>Gretchen said she would kill him via e-mail, not net. I was hired to
>do the deed. Hmmmmm, guess I'll have to find out another way.
>

 Yes those polo shirts are gonna look great christmas morning.
 Aren't they??????????????????????????????????????????????????
 
 
================================================================================
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
================================================================================
From: f7ly@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: HD tour info wanted
Date: 17 Aug 92 09:12:14 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

Does anyone have information (or a phone number) about touring the Harley-
Davidson Factory in Milwaukee.  Especially helpful would be times/dates
open and some sort of directions.  Has anyone gone on a tour.  Thanks.

-karl smolenski
kws@lns61.tn.cornell.edu
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Bob Pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bay Area Yamaha Service?
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:43:18 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <3880115@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison) writes:
> A friend who can't post to usenet isn't satisfied with the service dept
> over at Motors West in Campbell, CA now that Greg has left...
> Has anyone had good luck with Yamaha County on 13th St
> in San Jose? Any others such as in Gilroy, Fremont or whatever? Your
> input would be appreciated! 

i've been dealing with mission hon/yam in daly city for my XL.  yes, quite far
from the south bay.  my impression so far is that they are surprisingly humble:
the parts guy did not get bent out of shape when i suggested that he was
looking at the wrong fiche; when i brought in the rim from my XL to have a new
tire mounted, they installed in with the tread backwards--they thought the
brake was on the other side--and they dismounted the rim and reversed it all
with no complaint.  they also diagnosed the broken pulse generator quickly and
replaced it the day the part came in with a minimum of fuss and for what i
considered to be a reasonable price (1 hour labor + retail price of the
part=$90).  the svc mgr, ned, has zero personality, so don't expect groovy
conversation with him (like you might get from kari at cal bmw).

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: brianm@sco.com (Brian Moffet)
Subject: Re: Helmets and Motorcycle Fatalities
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:35:45 GMT

ciotti@wk42.nas.nasa.gov (Robert B. Ciotti) writes:
> FYI - Some might be interested, here is the fatality rates for the first 
>6 months of 1991 and 1992 for motorcyclists from the California Highway 
>Patrol as reported in the San Jose Murkey News.
>	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Total
>1991	25	30	24	44	52	53	227
>1992	17	14	24	35	25	24	137

California also had a wetter Jan - May this year than last.  Could it be that
fewer people were riding, thus fewer fatalities?

I hate bad statisticians....

brian moffet
--
"Face it, Chuck.  Taken as an aggregate, the human race is a stupid, sorry lot."
                           -- Jonathan Quist

brianm@sco.com  or uunet!sco!brianm                    Speaking for Myself
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: chapman@cs.cornell.edu (Richard Chapman)
Subject: need info quick on '82 CB500F
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 00:48:56 GMT

Ran into an '82 CB500F for sale on the way home today. It looks nice,
and the price is right, and I've got a test ride lined up for noon
tomorrow. Students are coming into town this weekend and I doubt it
will be around long at this price. But...I don't know anything about
this model. I'd appreciate comments from anyone who knows this bike.
(My last bike was an '81 GS650E that I resurrected from the grave,
and I was really happy with it).  Thanks a bunch,
Richard Chapman DoD #245
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: FIAMM Installation clues
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:01:59 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Jonathan E. Quist (jeq@i88.isc.com) wrote:
: In article <1992Aug19.143638.19898@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
: >
: >If you have problems, let us hear about them.
: 
: Well, first nobody wanted to buy our house.  Then our cat got hit by

 Total and utter drivel about his inane problems thankfully deleted.

: That's about all the problems I have right at the moment.
: 
: If Datasbuild had an email address, I'd send him a long letter about now.
: 
: M'Lud.
: 

Hey, Quisty, Email me at biker@spuddy.uucp  Let's hear all about it (sob).  :)

M'Lud.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson)
Subject: Re: Cheap Gas in BMW K-100 RS?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:36:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.192256.15537@advtech.uswest.com> ltp@uswest.com (Halfman-Halfmachine) writes:
>
>At higher altitudes the air isn't thinner. There is the same amounts
>of Oxygen, Nitrogen etc... but atmospheric pressure is a lot less. At
>any rate my internal combustion engines and even my own lung power is
>pretty shitty above 14,000 ft.  YMMV of course.
>
Huh??  Thinner == less pressure.  Remember the ideal gas law??
PV=nRT
if P goes down, and V, R & T stay the same then (all together now)
n will go down too.  And since n == # of moles of gas
When P goes down, so does the amount of gas.  The O2 and N2 and ...
will all be in the same proportion, but the IS less air.

Dean

ps Boost makes a nice altitude compensator. Maybe that's why I keep
dreaming of a K75s with a Luftmeister. :-)
-- 
| Dean Cookson / dcookson@mitre.org / 617 271-2714    | DoD #207  AMA #573534 |
| The MITRE Corp. Burlington Rd., Bedford, Ma. 01730  | KotNML  /  KotB       |
| "If I was worried about who saw me, I'd never get   | '81 CB750C            |
| nekkid at all." -Ed Green, DoD #0111                | '88 Bianchi Limited   |
From: story@sunshine.Kodak.COM (Doug Story)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Digital Bike Photos
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:54:15 GMT
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY

Someone (mat@vulcan.anu.edu.au) posted a desire for
digital photos. I can help. I tried to respond and 
to e-mail you but failed . If you are still interested
drop me a line. 

Doug Story
From: lm8637@tnessd.sbc.com (Lou Montgomery (214+464-1049))
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Roger Kou is more annoying than RE Mr. Small
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:48:24 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Southwestern Bell

In article <Bt3s1s.1Lx@news.udel.edu> andersen@me.udel.edu (Stephen Andersen) writes:
>In article <RKOU.92Aug16123100@corvus.ucs> rkou@corvus.ucs (Roger H. Kou) writes:
>>
>>I think I shall do something about this. Mr. Small please stay put.
>>My lawyer will speak to you.
>
>Roger,
>
>Will you please quit your sniveling, puking, unintelligible whining
>and just go away?!?!?!?!
>
>And tell your lawyer to go to hell too while you're at it...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

     "and I hate your lawyer's guts too!"
                                                        ,
                                   Ugly Kid Joe....   -(B-)=
                                                        '

     The more things change, the more they stay the same.


                                    Later...
                                            ...Lou #0083
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters
Date: 17 Aug 1992 18:53:49 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 7911@progress.com, matth@progress.COM (Matthew J. Harper) writes:
>
>  Wouldn't a couple of rocks/stones be a little easier to explain though?
>
>  It's pretty amazing how high a stone will bounce when dropped from a vehicle
>moving at highway speeds.  Most times it's just higher than the hood ornament.

Possible urban legand alert:

I was told by an insurance flunky once that gravel flying directly out
of a truck and onto your windshield is the responsibility of the truck
driver.  Gravel bouncing off the road is considered a "road hazard."

If true, always bounce your anti-cage rocks off the road.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...