From: jad@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (John DiNardo)
Subject: Part XI, The Casolaro Murder --> The Feds' Theft of Inslaw Software
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:02:32 GMT
Followup-To: alt.conspiracy
Keywords: CIA = Murder Inc.,  CIA desecrates the People's Constitution


        I made the following transcript from a tape recording 
        of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station
               WBAI-FM (99.5)
               505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl.
               New York, NY 10018       (212) 279-0707

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                        (continuation)
MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO:
Oh, absolutely. They got to a point where I supposedly operated 
the largest [methamphetamine lab] ever uncovered in the United States. 
The E.P.A. came in and they did extensive testing, and they found 
no evidence of drug contamination in the water or soil samples.
What they did find was an elevated level of barium; not a hazardous
level, but above normal background levels. Water solutions of barium
oxide were the largest quantity of chemicals that we used there in
processing platinum group metals. And that's an industry standard
to precipitate platinum group metals. So that's consistent with 
our side of the story.

The other point is that analysis of my hair shows that I was not
exposed environmentally to drugs or drug precursors. These are
very strong chemicals. So if you are even near where drugs are
being manufactured, it will show up in your metabolism. And 
[word drowned out by Masters's voice] that, on toxicology tests,
they all came out negative. So here's another point that really
makes troublesome the charges that the Government has against me.

IAN MASTERS:
But just to finally wrap up on Earl Brian -- what specific evidence
do you have that he brokered the October Surprise deal with the
forty million dollars that you cabled to Luxembourg?

MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO:
Well, I was with him when we had preliminary negotiations .....

IAN MASTERS:
In Iran?

MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO:
..... and we were discussing how that money could be transferred.
But in those discussions, we never ever talked about that money
being for the delay of [the release of] the hostages.

You've got to realize that in operations that are compartmentalized,
the people who are actually doing covert things, most of the time,
do not know what they're really doing.  There's a cover story.
And they're working very hard, thinking they're doing one thing,
when in fact their efforts are going for something else. And one
of the signs of a successful operation is how LITTLE the actual
participants can actually talk about, in terms of direct knowledge
of what really went down!

IAN MASTERS:
Well now, is there any direct knowledge, then?

MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO:
Well, there was the direct knowledge that I knew who had the money.
And I'm tracing out, for Congressional people, the trail. Now
that's direct knowledge from my standpoint. I made contact with
some of the Iranians. That's direct knowledge on my part. I've
sent a major news team that is in Iran right now getting these
people on camera.

IAN MASTERS:
That's NIGHTLINE, right?

MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO:
No. Somebody else. I don't want to say. They're in the country
right now. It's very sensitive, and I don't want to .....

IAN MASTERS:
Okay.  Well let's talk again. I've got to go now because I've got
to go on the air, and I've got to edit this tape before I go on
the air. So I've got to really fly. Thanks very much for joining
us, Michael Riconosciuto. We'll stay in touch.

MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO:
Alright.

IAN MASTERS:
I was just speaking with Michael Riconosciuto whom I spoke to
moments before I went live here at ll A.M. And he is in Pearce
County Jail in Tacoma, Washington, where he's in on drug charges.
Of course, he feels that he was set up on these charges because he
wouldn't cooperate with his former associates, Peter Videnieks and
Earl W. Brian who have both been charged by former Attorney-General
Elliot Richardson and by the Hamiltons, the founders and owners of
Inslaw, the small computer software company in Washington [D.C.].
They feel that their proprietary software was stolen by these
individuals, and enormous profits were generated from these. And
the speculation is that somehow this was a reward for Earl Brian's
involvement in brokering the October Surprise.

And, of course, this individual, Michael Riconosciuto, who claims
to have a background in intelligence, was working for these two
individuals. In the early 1980s, he was the research director for
a weapons production joint venture between the Wackenhut Corporation
((that's a big company like Brinks) a U.S. industrial security
firm linked to the intelligence community. And he mentioned that
it's true that they have, in fact, taken over a lot of the control
or guarding of nuclear weapon sites) and the Cabazon Indians of
Indio, California, down here at [near] Palm Springs.

You thought they played bingo. Well, according to thig guy,
EVERYTHING was going on there. It was just a sort of factory for
all kinds of covert activities, the manufacture of explosives ....
I think a couple of these characters were caught, by the Highway
Patrol, with explosives.

There is a series of five articles now [sometime in Sept. `91] in the 
San Francisco Chronicle by John Lipman[sp] outlining all of this stuff,
not just relying on this one source whom I talked to just now --
who, to put it mildly, is convoluted in his presentation. I will
do a follow-up interview with the Chronicle journalist who has
been following this down.
                         (to be continued)
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     This is one of countless stories unveiling the deeply corrupted     
     and subverted state of our theoretically democratic Government.  
     This story makes disgustingly obvious the fact that patriotism
     is not the waving of flags, the tying of yellow ribbons and the 
     mindless support of the Government, just because it happens to be ours.
     You don't support cancer just because you happen to have it.
     Patriotism is telling the truth to the people of our country
     in order that they may unite to conquer the anti-democratic
     cancer that is gradually destroying ours and our children's
     freedom. So please post the installments of this ongoing series
     to other bulletin boards, and post hardcopies in public places,
     both on and off campus.  That would be a truly patriotic deed.

       John DiNardo