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From: savoia@sw.stratus.com (Rick Savoia)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: CONFIRMED!!!   SEASON PREMIERE
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:04:50 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Aug27.133447.17817@ctr.columbia.edu>, Charles_Laine@CCIS.BAYLOR.EDU (Charles Laine) writes:
> How will the 1701-D crew return from the 19th century to their own time?
> 
> How about this...
> 
> The crew lives ordinary lives until the time of "City on the Edge of
> Forever".  A few of them die of old age by this time.  They send Data
> through the big rock-donut and he exits with Kirk and crew.  Then, data
> waits around until the Boseman is commisioned.   He hitches a ride on the
> Boseman, and waits till it exits the causality loop returning him to his
> normal time.  Data then borrows a bird of Prey from his Klingon friends
> made in "Redemption" and hunts down Spock to help him fetch the 1701-D
> crew.  Spock and Data perform time travel around the sun and succesfully
> arrive at San Fransisco at the time of "Time's Arrow".  They remembered
> to bring extra dylithium crystals this time.  They pick up the rest of
> the crew, somehow destroy the menace presented in the first half of
> "Time's Arrow", and attempt to return to their proper time.  But, oops,
> during the return time trip, someone askes Spock 'How do you feel"?  This
> distracts Spock long enough to screw up the time travel computations. 
> The Bird of Prey ends its time travel journey 22 years earlier than it
> should.  Guinan, who's perception "goes beyond linear time" instructs
> Picard that the Enterprise C will be making a stop in the Future.  So,
> everyone hops abord the Enterprise C, heads for Nirendra 3 and waits for
> the rift to open.  The temporal rift opens, the Enterprise C exits 22
> years later, and the 1701-D crew is returned to their normal time.
> 
> THE END


*MASSIVE APPLAUSE*   *Bravo*


I really liked that.  Very creative!!


Rick

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worth doing--as simply messing about in boats
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From: gbrach@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: I Borg
Date: 31 Aug 92 10:09:36 -0700
Distribution: na
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <67282@hydra.gatech.EDU>, ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:
> In article <jverho80.715205831@ursa> jverho80@ursa.calvin.edu (Jeff Verhoef) writes:
>>I just watched the rerun of "I Borg," and I have a small question...
>>  (possible spoiler though)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>When Bev and Geordi have the adolescent Borg in the lab and are asking his
>>his "means of identification,"  Bev explains to him that humans have names.
>>She says, "I am Beverly, and this is Geordi."  The Borg then says, "Do *I*
>>have a name?"
> 
> He blew it.  It should have been "We are Hugh."  Later on he reverts to
> "we", as you pointed out.  I'm surprised that made it past editing,
> because it really lessens the impact later on when he tells Picard
> "I am Hugh."  It doesn't ruin the scene, but it does take something out
> of it.
> 
> -- 
> Jorge Diaz                       | Sign in a restaurant:
> Georgia Institute of Technology  | 
> Office of Information Technology |   "We reserve the right to serve refuse to
> ccoprdj@prism.gatech.edu         |        anyone."

I watched this episode again this weekend, and I'd have to say that my grade for
it went way up.  The story holds together very well, and we get to see several
crew members come to terms with their feelings for the Borg.  I thought the 
actor who played the Borg did a fine job.

JMHO,
Gabor.

-- 
    g  b    gbrach@galaxy.gov.bc.ca	"We come in Peace, shoot to kill,
gggg   b    Victoria, B. C.	 	 We come in Peace, shoot to kill, men"
g  g t b    (God's waiting room)		_Star Trekking_, The Firm
ggggtttbbbb  
   g t b  b 		"Am I the witness, or am I the crime
g  g t bbbb		 A victim of circumstance, or just a sign of the times"
gggg  tt        				J. Clegg
From: sacke@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Elizabeth E Sack)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Season Premiere
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:54:30 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <8327@orbit.cts.com> dowling@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Stephen Dowling) writes:
>zrde05@trc.amoco.com (Robert D. Ess) writes:
>>In article 78428@ut-emx.uucp, tgunter@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Thomas Gunter) writes:
>>>How about giveing Wesley a new show catering to young teens?
>>>We can call it Deep Space 90210.
>>>
>>>Or Bill Shatner in a show about extra-terrestrial cops?
>>>Obviously called Deep Space 911.
>>>
>>>Sorry--it was a boring summer...
>>Or Star Trek cast members singing Beatle songs in Deep Space Number Nine
>
>Of course, the title theme could be released as Deep Space 6-5000.
> 
>stephen dowling          dowling@pnet51.orb.mn.org         minneapolis minnesota


Nichelle Nicols starring in "Deep Space Throat"  

geez, this is almost as fun as all the Borg name parodies we did a few months
ago.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: wct@po.CWRU.Edu (William C. Thompson)
Subject: Re: The Enterprise Stinks!
Reply-To: wct@po.CWRU.Edu (William C. Thompson)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 13:55:43 GMT


In a previous article, tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo) says:

>rtiger@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>> 
>> I must say once and for all that I think that the Starship Enterprise is the
>> most ridiculous looking starship ever dreamed up by people in Hollywood/dead
>> authors/etc.

>	Oh, boy!!  My first flame!!  If you don't like the ship, then don't
>watch the show, don't waste our time by telling us about what you dont' like
>about the show because maybe some of us don't care what you think!!  

Oooh!  Someone's mad now!  Take a nap or something.  Calm down...
-- 
"What do you mean Star Trek isn't real!?" - anonymous
From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Armin Shimerman correction and DS9 on CNN Showbiz Today
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:59:37 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: University of Virginia
Keywords: 

In article <1992Sep2.125719.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.195001.13830@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
>> 
>> Armin Shimerman is the *original* Ferengi, the man all the Ferengi masks
>> were based on, and by looking at him , you can tell.  He also played
>> the leader of the Ferengi group in "The Last Outpost."
>> 
>> I got to see Mr Shimerman (who also played Father in "Beauty and the Beast")
>
>Bzzt!  Soorry, wrong answer.  Roy Dotrice played Father in Beauty & the Beast.
>Check it out.
>
Absolutely right!  I must apologize for this error.
Late last night it occurred to me that I had written down Father instead
of Pascal as I was typing that entry, and I woke this morning to several
corrections on my mail.  

Armin played Pascal, not Father in "Beauty and the Beast."

Now onto the new news, CNN's Showbiz Today gave today a sneak peek at
the cast of ST:DS9 near the end of the program, and we got to hear
Rick Berman say something.

If you missed this, set your VCR and try to catch the Showbiz Today
repeat at One AM Eastern Time tonight.  The DS9 stuff is near the end of
the show.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: bau55536@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Larry Combs Jr)
Subject: Air Date For RELICS
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 02:55:38 GMT

WIth all the commotion about "Relics," does anyone in Netland know the 
air date?

					Larry Combs, Jr.
					b-uffelmann@uiuc.edu

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From: mueller@cage.eng.mcmaster.ca (Edna Mueller)
Subject: Re: Jim Doohan on CNN Showbiz Today *SPOILERS*
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:26:52 GMT

Hi:

Spoliers just in case

What really interested me about the clip of Scotty on
the holodeck(?) is that we might find out what happened
to Kirk.  He was saying goodbye and he must know that
McCoy is alive (opps, wh  not the "was that McCoy debatye")
 and so is Spock.  So that leaves Kirk.  Or perhaps he's
just saying goodbye to his old ship and/or era.

I just guess we;ll have to wait and see.

By the way, forgive the spelling mistakes.  IU have an
editor that doesn't like to edit.  So the first way I 
spell is is the way it stays.

Also I'm going on vacation so I'll know i';;ll suffer
from USENET withdrawl.  Bye.

(my sig file is supposed to bgo her, oh well)
		mueller@cage.eng.mcmaster.ca
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Sunday, 30 Aug 1992 20:25:32 EDT
From: <IO20084@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Blooper


There are two ways to look at that.  The first is whether the Borg _could_ do
it, the second is would they want to?  IMHO, the first depends on whether they
are grown as Borg on the Borg ship, or if they were members of another race
who were assimulated.  The second is pretty obvious.  A uni-mind as powerfull
as logicall as the Borg wouldn't waste time doing 'it' the old fashioned way
when it has a much neater and simpler alternitive (growing them).


Chuck
From: brownga@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: ST II: Wrath of Khan --> New Footage
Date: 26 Aug 92 04:11:29 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

Yes I have that footage on a tape that I recorded off of Network tv
showing. Its quite a few minutes added up. I don't know why when its
showed on HBO or the copy you but in the store is shorter?

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From: A410JACQ@HASARA11.BITNET (Jacqueline Cote)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Trek Trivia for people who can watch Dutch TV
Date: 26 Aug 92 08:23:18 GMT
Organization: SARA - Stichting Academisch Rekencentrum Amsterdam

Tonight at 19:30 (GMT+2) on VARA television (second Dutch channel) there
will be an episode of a British TV series about a vet, featuring Paul
Nicholas and Angharad 'Poldark' Rees. The episode will feature the
rabbit of a Star Trek fan, who ate a Captain Kirk doll. This should
be hilarious.
 
Jacqueline
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From: dsturm@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Klingon Language Institute Update
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:35:59 GMT


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From: rcmtr@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Trevor Rook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Why San Francisco? (was Star Trek vs Real Life)
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:16:38 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

Face it - if you were filming *anything* in Los Angeles, wouldnt you
rather do your external shots in san Francisco

-- 
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  Applied Chemistry, RMIT       phone +61-3-660-2117 
  Melbourne, Australia          fax   +61-3-639-1321 
                                                           

"Alright, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, 
 wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system
 and public health what have the Romans ever done for us?"
"Brought peace"
"Oh **peace**. Shut up!"

---The Life of Brian
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: SJOSEPHS@130.187.170.178 (STEVEN JOSEPHSON)
Subject: Re: a little controversy on the episode: the perfect mate
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:09:31 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11

In <22009@galaxy.ucr.edu> judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu writes:

> In article <1992Aug23.004842.25257@news.iastate.edu> bipin@iastate.edu (Bipin K  
> Dalmia) writes:
> > my friend and i had this little argument after watching the episode 'the
> > perfect mate' last weekend. my friend says that capt. picard slept with
> > the metamorph, camalla and i say that he didn't. he (my friend) says
> > that it was implied when picard just smiles when the old guy asks him
> > 'how did you resist the temptation?' and i say that the silent smile
> > just indicated the mysterious nature of picard.
> 
> If anyone else gave a smirk like Picard did, such as Riker, then everyone
> would know right away that they had sex.  However, IMHO, I don't think
> Picard is into sex as much as Riker is.  Picard is French, and he probably
> is more into love and romance then sex.  

No flames intended, but has the previous poster ever spent time in Frace? Most
of the french friends I have were good guys, but if one overlooked the romantic
music they often spouted they weren't much better than crotch-seeking missiles.
As to why Picard resisted bedding the metamorph, he said it best himself 'I
would not use you as other men do'.  This is IMHO a very Picard-like statement
of honor, respect and responsibility for his own actions that is so very
un-Gallic as to defy credulity.  If anything, Picard seems quite cynical about
what often passes as 'romance' - remember his exchange with Minuet about
illusion and women.  Being cynical about romance may be the "true frenchman" in
him, but being honest and honorable about it certainly is not. 

Is the take on this, by the way, that Picard and Camalla didn't have sex?
My guess on this was that they did, as even as disciplined a human as Picard
has their limits.
From: cc433336@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Constantinos A. Caroutas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Patrick Stewart Narrating Car Ads
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:20:56 GMT
Reply-To: cc433336@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Constantinos A. Caroutas)
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

Just found out that Patrick Stewart narrates informational tapes for the
same car company he narrates car ads.
--
Constantinos A. Caroutas

"It's easy to make mistakes when others will be held responsible."
From: tmfm@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Cinefantastique October 92: Are you kidding?!
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:34:14 GMT
Reply-To: tmfm
Organization: University of Florida  (ufl.edu)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4

Why, of course there's interest! I would like to read more of that. Would
you mind posting some more info (with a spoiler warning)? Thanks!

Luis
let@reef.cis.ufl.edu
From: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Bad Puns (was Re: Three Stooges)
Date: 4 Sep 1992 00:33:55 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, jeffski@behave () says:

>In article <1992Aug18.213540.11444@sierra.com> bbarber@sierra.com (Bryan Barber) writes:
>>-- 
>>Bryan Barber  |"He's bread, Jim." - McCoy after a tragic transporter accident
>>              |                     while visiting planet Pillsbury.
>
>OK, so this sig caught my eye yesterday (I'm catching up on old messages) and
>set me to punning...
>
>
>"He's fed, Jim." - McCoy after making sure Spock had had his food supplement.
>
>
>"He's Jed, Jim." - McCoy introducing Beverly Hillbillies' elder Clampett to
>                   the good captain on a crossover episode.
>
>"He's shed, Jim." - McCoy discovers another fascinating fact about tribbles.
>
>
>"He's led, Jim." - McCoy reminding Kirk that Spock has already had his turn
>                   at the front of the Enterprise's Momba dance line.
>
>"He's lead, Jim." - McCoy mis-diagnoses Lt. Commander Data, who has gone back
>                    in time in an effort to stop endless punning on TOS.
>
>"He's wed, Jim." - McCoy informing Kirk as to why the new ensign won't be 
>                   competing with the captain for ladies' affections.
>
>and finally,
>"He's red, Jim." - McCoy states the obvious when Kirk and co. go back in
>                   time and meet Nikita Kruschev.
>
>Sorry folks. I know there are many more permutations, but I thought I'd be
>merciful and stop there.
>
     Well, I'm a future lawyer, so I won't be merciful.  I worte a parody
recently where they went back with a Lieutennant Dead, whereby they met a
witch with a black cat named "He."
     Introducing each other brought: "He's Dead, Jim," and "He's Jim, Dead!"
Someone accidentally killed "He" with a phaser, bringing the obvious response,
but then the witch turned Kirk into a cat, and McCoy said:  "Jim's He, Dead!"
     The *worst* pun came in another parody I made, poking fun at all
the kiddie shows on TNG.  Troi faints from the pain of it, in fact.  Ensign
Ro is given a small toy boat by a kid.  She sits it down, and this monster
picks it up and is about to hurl it point blank at her head, killing her.
Wesley yells:  "Ensign Ro!  Ro, Ro, your boat!" and Alexander and company
all sing: "Gently down the stream!  Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily,
life is but a dream!"
     I challenge someone to come up with something more worthy of moans.
-- 
Doug Fowler: dxf12@po.CWRU.edu      :    "Every baby born into the world is
Real home: Canton, Ohio             :  finer than the last."--Charles Dickens
 Trying to follow in the path of our :     "A baby is an inestimable
Lord;anything close will be a success:  blessing and bother."--Mark Twain
From: judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: a little controversy on the episode: the perfect mate
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:19:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.004842.25257@news.iastate.edu> bipin@iastate.edu (Bipin K  
Dalmia) writes:
> my friend and i had this little argument after watching the episode 'the
> perfect mate' last weekend. my friend says that capt. picard slept with
> the metamorph, camalla and i say that he didn't. he (my friend) says
> that it was implied when picard just smiles when the old guy asks him
> 'how did you resist the temptation?' and i say that the silent smile
> just indicated the mysterious nature of picard.

If anyone else gave a smirk like Picard did, such as Riker, then everyone
would know right away that they had sex.  However, IMHO, I don't think
Picard is into sex as much as Riker is.  Picard is French, and he probably
is more into love and romance then sex.  Furthermore, the metamorph is an
empath who is supposed to be able to give happiness to any man because she
really knows what they want.  The metamorph, knowing this, wouldn't ask
Picard to sleep with her, as she did before their rendezvous.  Thus, I do
agree with you that that little smirk is a personality trait of Picard.
--
"I drank what?" -- Socrates

judson@watserv.ucr.edu
From: mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Season Premier -- Cher plays Troi's evil twin!!!
Date: 23 Aug 92 17:03:33 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

That's right!  Cher plays Troi's evil twin!  Not!

#8^)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: rccarm00@mik.uky.edu (ron c carman)
Subject: Re: ST:TNG "The Next Phase" SPOILERS!!
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:46:57 GMT

    *spoilers* (small ones) for "Ensign Ro"


stanaway@ssd.comm.mot.com (Chris Stanaway) writes:

>Ensign Ro Laran joined the show in the thrid episode of the fifth season.
>The episode entitled "Ensign Ro".  The incident that damaged her career
>took place off the show.  Before she joined the E, I believe she was
>imprisioned for not following orders on an away mission that got serveral,
>if not all of the rest, of the away team killed.  Her race is called the
>Bajora, but I'm not sure what name was given to their home world, if any.
 ^^^^^^
       Her home *world* is Bajora.  Members of her race are Bajorans.

>Chris

RC Carman
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