HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (August Abolins)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: What the *ell...!
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:27:08 GMT
Organization: Vis-a-Vis Communications [Ontario+Quebec]

A strange thing just started happening in Waffle (still 1.64)

When a user logs in and gets the welcome screen, immediately we get this...

Unknown command: DATE:.
Unknown command: REFERENCES:.
Unknown command: DISTRIBUTION:.
Unknown command: ORGANIZATION:.
Unknown command: LINES:.
"JON@VECTOR0.SAC.CA.US" forbidden by Act of Congress
Unknown command: >.
Unknown command: >.
Unknown command: >.
Unknown command: >.
Unknown command: >.

...etc (lots of stuff removed for brevity; there appears to be atleast 6
screenfuls of this stuff!)

Unknown command: RESET.
Unknown command: POLL.
Unknown command: CHROME.
Unknown command: EXECUTE.
Unknown command: COMMAND.
Unknown command: NEWUSER.
Unknown command: MODIFY.
Unknown command: USED.
user... ?
Unknown command: --.
Unknown command: MIKE.

1:20p [#0: Main]
%

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WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!

This does not happen when I log in as root.


---  /|ugust /|bolins  --------------[ abolins%visavis@nyongwa.cam.org ]---
From: system@freds.cojones.com (George W. Hayduke)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: UUCICO SPEED
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 11:11:05 AST
Organization: Radio Free Fredbox

dawson@hobbes.bsan.bls.com (Willard Dawson) writes:

> And, a WB is not the same as a T3000.  A WB provides TurboPEP, and you can
> most definitely g-spoof with TurboPEP.


...despite the fact that the WB comes with great big T3000 manual, and a
little WB addendum pamphlet...

Ah well. It's magically climbed to 1500+ cps, which isn't bad between Alaska
and San Diego with UUCP, I figure.

It seems to be in the high 1200s with my (normal) 2000 block transfers,
1300-1400 with 5000 blocks, and 1500 beyond that.

I'm looking at actual connect time more than anything -- it's seeming
reasonable.



      Fred Polsky v1.0, who has been known to handle under George.
            "This is Usenet. Facts are irrelevant here."
 The Fredbox +1 907 344 8437  system@freds.cojones.com  Anchorage, Alaska
Sean "Bandwidth" Ryan's favorite BBS, with lots of neat texts and lunatics.
From: rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: sysman... NOT!
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 13:31:41 CST
Organization: Network XXIII - +1 608 222 9253

fenner@snobol.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:

| If static says that "waffle:" is D:\WAFFLE, then the INDEX file should be in
| D:\WAFFLE\ADMIN\INDEX...

Is it asking for trouble if you find the Waffle tree by backing up from
the STATIC variable, rather than reading "waffle:" from the static file..?

I can't imagine having

    STATIC=z:\foo\funky\static

but in static

    waffle: c:\waffle

Comments?


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From: dell@Apple.COM (Thomas E. Dell)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Another Waffle bug?
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:41:32 GMT
Organization: I mistook my BBS for a hat

>I think this is fixed in 1.66:
>Waffle v1.66b1 compiled 12.6.92

I should mention to the other betatesters that there is not yet a 1.66b0,
as what bill has is 1.66b(-1). 

--Tom

dell@vox.darkside.com / Thomas E Dell
From: kosta@blues.kk.sub.org (Kosta Kostis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Headers...
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 20:28:53 MET
Organization: The Blues Family

gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM (George W. Pogue) writes:

>   Is there an easy way to add your own header information to messages?
>   I know that the common ones are taken care of my waffle itself, but 
>   suppose someone wanted to add a special item to message headers, is there
>   an easy conforming way to approach this. Simply adding it to the ASK
>   line of the static file didn't seem to change anything. 

Well, theroretically you could make your own patch for this, like I did
to include MIME-headers to mail-messages. You could use the sources of
my patch included in ISOPATCH, but

>  Buy American! The Job You Save Could Be Your Own! 

you probably won't want to use it - it's not American.  ;-)

        Kosta


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From: tcscs!zeta@src.honeywell.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: uucico speed, bad headers
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 07:51:17 CST
Reply-To: zeta%tcscs@src.honeywell.com
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB) writes:

> jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:
>   
> > I now have 934cps during transfer instead of 500cps. V42 is on and
> > so is MNP, flow control is rts/cts
> 
> Interesting.  Tell us about your computer.
> 
> I suspect one flaw in your transfer rates.  Since you have cut DTE speed
> from 19.2 to 9.6, one could assume that your 934 figure is more like
> 467.
> 
My guess is he's using error correcting, and not data compression.  

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From: dawson@willard.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: UUCICO SPEED
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 12:11:14 EST
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

Jochen Erwied <mack@joker.wes.open.de> writes:

> dawson@willard.UUCP writes:
> 
> > > In <Tq10uB9w165w@joker.wes.open.de> Jochen Erwied <mack@joker.wes.open.de
> > >
> > > >I am using a patched UUCICO not reporting 'g' as supported protocol,
> > > >but 'G'. My host supports 'g'-protocol with a 7 window/64 byte packets
> > 
> > He's obviously patched his UUCICO.EXE binary to report G rather than g.
> 
> Well - it was me who posted the article about patching uucico,

Oops!  Sorry about mis-attributing your post to someone else!

> so here's the way to do it:

Thanks.  I'll go do it now.

>    Jochen Erwied - Asternweg 5 - D-W-4230 Wesel - Internet: mack@wes.open.de
>     "Spass und Freude durch Musik, wir wollen's laut, das reisst uns mit.
>  Denn Rockmusik ist nicht so leise, wie die ganze Schlagerschei**e" [Bonfire]


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From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Another Waffle bug?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 19:00:59 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

fenner@snobol.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:

> I think this is fixed in 1.66:

Fixed? I don't think it is broken in 1.65.

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From: kosta@blues.kk.sub.org (Kosta Kostis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Latest ISO 8859-1 Patch for Waffle available
Keywords: ISO8859-1 Waffle Patch
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 23:56:13 MET
Organization: The Blues Family

Jonathan Herr <valnet!herrj@news.cs.indiana.edu> writes:

> kosta@blues.kk.sub.org (Kosta Kostis) writes:
> 
> #         LATIN SMALL LETTER A GRAVE      : 
> #         LATIN SMALL LETTER A ACUTE      : 
> #         LATIN SMALL LETTER A CIRCUMFLEX : 
> #         LATIN SMALL LETTER A TILDE      : 
> #         LATIN SMALL LETTER A DIARESIS   : 
> #         LATIN SMALL LETTER A RING       : 
> #         LATIN SMALL LETTER N TILDE      : 
> # 
> #         COPYRIGHT SIGN                  : 
> 
> Funny thing is that I'm seeing the characters that you're talking
> about.  All I did was set the STATIC file param 'charsize' to eight.
> (ie. charsize : 8)  I can't vouch for what it will look like when it
> gets back to you, though.

They look just fine here.

What Code Page do you use?
What version of Waffle do you use?
Does your feed possibly convert the characters for you? 

        Kosta


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From: tcscs!zeta@src.honeywell.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle and HPFS??
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 08:27:10 CST
Reply-To: zeta%tcscs@src.honeywell.com
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

rider@geloser.login.qc.ca (Serge Ayotte) writes:

> Hi Wafflers!
> 
> I am abut to had a new HD and I'm thinking of going to HPFS format (YEp!
> Another OS/2 USer!!).
> 
> So like asked in the Subject, Anyone running waffle on an HPFS without
> any trouble?? Do I need to watch out for anything when I'll do this?

I've been running HPFS and Waffle since OS/2 2.0 GA was released.  No problems
at all.  Waffle took to OS/2 quite well..especially UUXQT.  UUXQT running on
an HPFS drive full screen (or minimized) flies....
> 
> Beeing on this subject, since HPFS CAN take long filename, is there a
> way to disable the file "munging"?

Waffle is a DOS app.  You'd have to disable the 8.3 limit in DOS itself.
Plus I think that is handled in UUCICO, and RMAIL/RNEWS (can anyone verify
this?).  So the source in those would have to be modified.

> Thanks in advance for your help and answers!

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From: kilgore@obelisk.pillar.com (Stan Hall)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: From NOBODY
Date: 11 Dec 92 11:21:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: obelisk.628LVB2w165w
Distribution: world
Organization: Pillar Communications, Oklahoma City, Ok

walsh@pilgrim.carlisle.ma.us writes:

> 
> Mail is delivered locally OK,  BUT...
> (1) In my waffle/admin/mail  file I see "NOBODY" listed as the
>     sender, and
> (2) Mail going off-site has a "somewhere" imbedded in its From line
>     which means people cannot reply to my mail automagically. The
>     Smart Host staff tell me that the "somewhere" indicates something
>     is wrong with my headers. (which is consistent with the NOBODY
>     in my waffle\admin\mail file!)


   Try adding a line, to the beginning of text file that you are 
   mailing, similiar to: 

      From username
   or  
      From uucp
   or
      From whoever_or_whatever

   Also add a space after this line otherwise the /waffle/admin/mail 
   file won't be as pretty (trust me).

   The problem (I guess) is that rmail wants to know where this message
   is coming from.  Try it out and look at the headers and you should be
   able to figure out what is going on.

   Kilgore



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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: UUCICO SPEED
From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 15:38:18 +1300
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)

dawson@willard.UUCP writes:

> Perhaps you're not aware that some modems allow one to enable v.42bis, but
> to further disable simple MNP5 compression?  That is how I've got mine set.
> If your modem asks for v.42bis, I give it.  If you ask from MNP5, you don't
> get it.  For outbound calls, I have the same configuration.  I only ask for
> v.42bis, and exclude simple MNP5.  On my T'bit modem, I exclude all data
> compression, especially PEP-compression.

Why on Earth would you want to disable the fallback standard?
Surely when it comes to compression, you either want the best you can
do, or have none at all.

FTR the combinations available on my ZyXEL are:
None, MNP4 (fallback to MNP3,2,1), MNP4 + MNP5, V42(MNP 4+5), V42b(MNP4+5)

> The topic is not standards documents, but rather modem documentation.

True, but as CCITT V42bis documentation explicitly makes mention of the
standard's fallback ability to MNP5, and incorporate major elements of
MNP5, it also comes down to peoples understanding of the relevent
standards.

Most CCITT documents are available at your local library via interloan
systems, so you don't have to pay exorbitant amounts of cash to read
them. They give a solid grounding in the principles, though they do tend
to be a bit 'dry'.

Perhaps this discussion should be continued in comp.dcom.modems or
alternatively comp.mail.uucp if we want to discuss the pros and cons
of compression when using UUCP 'g'
(Anyone remember the "UUCP 'g' must die!" thread in comp.dcom.modems
 earlier this year?)


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From: root@connect.com (Niles Mills)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle and Share.exe question?
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 18:24:26 EDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Connect Software, Morehead City, NC

abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (August Abolins) writes:

> jim@jimmc.chi.il.us (jim mcnicholas) writes:
> 
> > abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (August Abolins) writes:
> > > My DOS 5.0 manual does not document /F.  Maybe I missed it.  What page
> > > is it on?
> > 
> >         It's an Undocumented feature!!  try it it works, put /f on 
> >         the end of your shell line watch when you switch to the A: 
> >         drive without anything in it!  Your system just goes on about 
> >         it's business the best part is if you put A:\ in a batch file 
> >         to switch to a: it won't crash the batch file it'll skip right 
> >         over it!
> 
> Thanks for the tip, but it doesn't work for me:
>                            ~~~~~~~
> E:\>a:
> Not ready reading drive A
> Abort, Retry, Fail?Current drive is no longer valid>a
> 
> Not ready reading drive A
> Abort, Retry, Fail?Invalid drive specification
> Bad command or file name
> 
> Not ready reading drive A
> Abort, Retry, Fail?Current drive is no longer valid>a
> 
> Not ready reading drive A
> Abort, Retry, Fail?Invalid drive specification
> Bad command or file name
> 
> Not ready reading drive A
> Abort, Retry, Fail?Current drive is no longer valid>a
> Bad command or file name
> 
> E:\>dir a:
> 
> Not ready reading drive A
> Abort, Retry, Fail?<cr>
> Abort, Retry, Fail?<cr>
> Abort, Retry, Fail?<cr>
> Abort, Retry, Fail?<cr>
> Abort, Retry, Fail?<cr>
> Abort, Retry, Fail?<cr>
> 
> And my CONFIG.SYS contains:
> 
> device=c:\umb_drvr.sys /C=02 /M=........................
> devicehigh=c:\himem.sys
> DOS=HIGH,UMB
> devicehigh=c:\mouse\mouse.sys
> shell=c:\dos50\command.com /e:1800 /p /f
> devicehigh=c:\ramdrive.sys 768 /e
> devicehigh=c:\util\tansi.sys
> stacks=0,0
> buffers=30,8
> FILES=39
> break=ON
> 
> 
> ---  /|ugust /|bolins  --------------[ abolins%visavis@nyongwa.cam.org ]---


Yeah, I know what you mean.  The /F feature works great on my
system, but not on my neighbors.  The environments look pretty
much the same.  DOS 5.0, QEMM, etc.  Go figure.

Niles Mills

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: ..working with 1.63 (modified)
Keywords: 1.63, editor, importing-text, mail
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:37:14 GMT

carlos@infoserv.com (Carlos Dominguez) writes:
>vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan) writes..

>> you can run snews for certain with pre-1.65 waffles.

>Can you give me the coordinates so I can email the halcyon
>archive-server to email it to me?

mail fileserv@halcyon.com with the following text starting
in column one:

send help
send index
end

>What is the snews interface like? I could care less about
>GUI's and Mouse interfaces, but anything with a TIN or
>ELM like display I would kill (almost) for!

kind'a like elm in a DOS'y kind of way.

>> besides, virtually all c.b.w. readers are up to 1.65 so you'll get
>> better support here too!

>I tried to email ralphs@halcyon.com because I was told that
>rus-news v096 might work, but I haven't heard anything yet.
>Could you find out where that goodie is?

sigh...

read the instructions above.

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From: vince_m@wacss.anixter.com (Vince Mammoliti)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: UUCICO: Using slower speeds
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 16:28:50 EST
Organization: Anixter Canada Inc.

My current feed, once in a while has phone line problems.
If the line is noisy, I get too many errors and call is dropped.

I am using a T2500 modem, with UUCP spoofing turned on.

In order for me to get my feed, I currently have to edit my
system file, and comment out the 19200 speed and use the 9600 speed.

Is there a fix for this ?

Is it possible to detect if any errors have accured from UUCICO.

I am currently use uu.exit and uu.fail. But these two only tell me
if a connection was made. NOT if it was a successful transfer.

Thanks

Vince


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From: dennis@pete.uucp (Dennis Peterson)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Very Big Waffle bug!!
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 01:10:45 CST
Reply-To: dennis%pete%nicmad%astroatc.uucp@spool.cs.wisc.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: My system in Madison WI

I just got thought rebuilding my hard disk for the SECOND time. And
Waffle did it to me!.

I have been running waffle for about 2 weeks with no problems. I then
decided to move the News directories to D: but leave the waffle system
on C:. Every thing seemed to work well but I soon noticed my D: drive
had some fat table error.  I rebuild with Norton disk doctor then
everything was ok again. Well this time during the rnew procession
of files form my feed the fat table really blew. I had just check the
disk with norton disk doctor before I ran it and it was ok.

It appears rnews will sometime recreate a directory that already exist,
create bad links, cross-link files, etc.  In general a real mess. I think
it is being confused by the switching between C: and D: during the
processing of the input files and writting the files back to the news
directories.

I am running Norton NDOS and Norton cache but I have had No problems until
I moved the News directory.

I have not worked on this much further.  I really do not want to
rebuild my disk again.

If anyone wants more details I will be glad to pass it on what I can.

Waffle 1.65
Dos 5.0
Norton 6.01
C: 210 IDE Drive
D: 100 MB SCSI on Seagate ST01 card.



Dennis Peterson   (608)273-4573   
Inet: dennis%pete%nicmad%astroatc.uucp@spool.cs.wisc.edu
Or  : nicmad!pete!dennis%astroatc.uucp@spool.cs.wisc.edu
Or  : uwvax!astroatc!nicmad!pete!dennis
From: system@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle Goodies..
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 13:59:56 PST
Organization: Indescribable Creations

pdivine@unixg.ubc.ca (Patrick Divine) writes:

> Another idea we had, was to create a small program that keeps a listing of
> all new newsgroups added.  There would be a file called "subscribe" in
> each users directory that would have a newsgroup appedned to it when a new
> newsgroup was added.  When a user logs on, it asks if they want to
> subscribe to all the newsgroups in the subscribe file, appends the
> newsgroups to the "join" file and deletes it from the "subscribe" file.

This is being done and in fact, is already done. The home of Waffle, DARKSIDE,
has this working yet it's only for the new release of Waffle (soon I hope).
It works quite well. I want it NOW
<X>orcist

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From: kevin@cfctech.cfc.com (Kevin Darcy)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Mixed format addresses
Date: 18 Dec 92 02:04:24 GMT
Organization: Chrysler Financial Corp., Southfield, MI

In article <lgXLrA1BBh107h@ssc60.sbwk.nj.us> tonyd@ssc60.sbwk.nj.us (Tony DeBari) writes:
>In <1gisdmINN3gf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> trier@slc6.ins.cwru.edu (Stephen C. Trier) writes:
>>In article <e80RVB2w165w@1776.COM> bob@1776.COM (Robert Coe) writes:
>>>Suppose someone were to propose that rather than have the .UUCP notation die 
>>>out, it should be formalized as a "real" domain.  Aside from the obvious 
>>>problem that existing mail programs handle this notation in several mutually 
>>>inconsistent ways, why would it be such a bad idea?
>
>>It is not a bad idea at all, but it has already been done.
>
>>It's called .ORG, .EDU, .COM, .INT, and .<YourCountry>.
>
>>How would registering under .UUCP be different from registering under any
>>other domain?
>
>Ok, but consider my site, ssc60.sbwk.nj.us, a few-user Waffle iron owned
>and operated by a private individual (i.e. me).
>
>It's not an "organization" per se.
>It's not a company or other type of commercial site.
>It's not an educational institution.
>It's not international (is that what .INT is for?)
>
>The only real domain left is .<MyCountry> (.US), which is based on a
>geographic hierarchy.  If I move out of South BrunsWicK, NJ, I have 
>to register a new domain name.  Yes, it's free and easy, but I'd rather
>not have to do it more than once.  And I'm fortunate in that my account
>with UUNET means not having to find another forwarder.
>
>What would be wrong with a .PRI domain for unaffiliated, private sites?
>Everyone has at least an MX record in the DNS, it doesn't imply a specific
>transfer protocol like .UUCP, and there is no geographic hierarchy so a
>site can be physically moved without having to re-register its domain name.
>
>Comments?  Flames?

The problem is that if every Tom, Dick and Harriet with a PC registers as a
second-level name under .pri, then you end up with a DNS zone containing 
literally millions of RR's, which are all being queried constantly. Massive 
capacity and adminstrative problems. Zone transfers would be a bitch. Lots of 
name conflicts. In short, the idea makes for short, easy-to-type mail 
addresses, but breaks the scalability of global DNS.

On the other end of the spectrum, I think the .us policy of geographical
subdivisions is pretty silly: it lengthens mail addresses for no particularly
good reason -- many if not most folks simply don't CARE what city, or in some 
cases, even what state or country a host is in, as long as the mail flows. So
you ultimately end up with situations like the guy who moved from Chicago to 
Tasmania, but didn't bother to change his chi.il.us MX. What useful value does
all that verbiage serve then?

I think two layers of domains is a reasonable compromise between these
extremes. When you add that second layer, of course, then each subdomain 
is a "mail park", and could validly be registered under good old .org, e.g.
mn.org or mi.org, instead of having to create a new top-level .pri domain. 

								- Kevin