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From: urajan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Uday Rajan)
Subject: Pak-NZ D4 - NZ 50/3
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 00:02:25 GMT

4 overs of play so far; NZ 50/3. Wasim and Waqar bowling to Jones (13) and
Parore (7). 14 Extras in this total. Mostly singles this morning; one 3
by Parore - couldn't tell where - Radio Beijing or something like that 
is trying to broadcast on the same frequency. So far, the bastman have
had few problems, except for one ball of Akram that hit Parore near 
the armpit (hope HIS underarm doesn't stink). John Parker says that Waqar
is not swingin the ball too much - in the first innings, it was 35 or 45 overs
before he did.

Will update my .plan file every 2 overs or so; finger 
urajan@leland.stanford.edu for the latest.
From: ck@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Chandrasekhar Kambhampati)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Indian team -- What now?
Date: 11 Jan 93 13:26:12 GMT
Organization: University of Reading

mohan@theta.mel.dms.CSIRO.AU (Mohan Krishnamoorthy) writes:

An excellent article/posting. Its brilliant, and a joy to read!


>IMO, Pataudi would be best.  He does not need the money.  He is quite
>commited to the cause.  He is good.  He will give off his very best,
>purely for the reputation which will be at stake.  Moreover, he is
>distictly connected with that golden era in Indian cricket when the
>spinning-quartet of Bedi-Chandra-Prasanna-Venkat were on song.

>Gavaskar would be ideal.  However, I rather suspect he has fought too
>many wars with too many people at the helm to be given the chance.  But,
>one of these HAS to be appointed for the better of the game in India.

Given the silly politicing, both inside and outside the BCCI; both these
greats of Indian cricket wouldnot, I fear, take up this job - for that matter 
would any sane person. Things may change if the BCCI appointed a man like Ted
Dexter in charge of the selection processes! You never no - just as
Krishnamoorthy is a romantic (re:spin bowlers), so am I and look forward
to seeing the new dawning of Indian Cricket! 

>Start mending at home, where you can!  The dead Ranji pitches MUST go.
>Our batsmen are deluded by the big scores they make on the circuit, only
>to crash on their noses when they get onto REAL pitches.  Our bowlers
>don't take enough wickets to make it a habit and thereby, acquire that
>killer instict.  These graveyards MUST go!

Ataboy! You said it! Say it again and again, and again, - we are left
with only one choice - pray to the all mighty that things will change!


regards
chandrasekhar
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From: bharat@cs.uiuc.edu (R. Bharat Rao)
Subject: Re: bowling speed of Waqar and Wasim
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:29:32 GMT

In article <1ik6frINNj0@hal.com>, crash@hal.COM (Chris Craddock) writes:
	[accurate info that brings back pleasant memories deleted]
|> 
|> The results were pretty much as mentioned above (Trueman wasn't involved)
|> with Jeff Thompson at 99mph/159Km/h the fastest. Andy Roberts, Michael
|> Holding and Dennis Lillee were all pretty close to each other in the
|> low 90mph/145Km/h range. Then came Imran/Hadlee and others I've forgotten.

I think that while Thommo had the highest speed on a single ball
(99 mph as you said), Holding was the one with the highest average
speed of 92mph (his fastest was a "mere" 95:-).  ALso, I think the
contest included accuracy, in that the bowlers also bowled at
stumps (either in the same speed test, or a separate one) and they
counted the number of times the ball hit the stumps.


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From: tripunit@algol.cs.psu.edu (Mahesh V Tripunitara)
Subject: Re: England v Pres XI
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:31:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.211941.24802@ecrc.de> sanjiva@ecrc.de (Sanjiva Prasad) writes:

>Till Taylor's performance, I had the following as the English TEST match team:

>12th man: Fairbrother  (others are Reeve, Taylor, Jarvis, Blakey)

Is this your team or the official team for the first test? Surely
Fairbrother can't have been demoted to the 12th man's position. He is
definitely one amongst their better batsmen & fielders.

Mahesh.
From: sgccngf@citec.oz.au (Nigel G Fowler)
Subject: Pakistan - not so great after all!
Organization: CITEC
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:21:27 GMT
Summary: Pakistan cricket critique
Keywords: cricket Pakistan


Now that Pakistan have well and truly been knocked out of the WSC
finals, and basically been humiliated all series, where are the
people who, two or three months ago were proclaiming that Pak's
are the greatest team, full stop?

Last night (aus vs pak, melb 12/1/93), pakistan's run chase was
truly pathetic.  Apart from Javed, they didn't even _attempt_
to make the runs.  Their theory of relaxing in the first 40 overs,
and then going for it in the last 10 fell apart.  It only worked
for them in one game this series.

Interesting statistic:  Wasim Akram, "the greatest bowler in the world",
failed to take even one wicket against Australia at all, in the
whole series.  Not even one tail-ender.  This must have made it harder
for Pak in the whole series.

Nigel Fowler
CITEC QLD Australia
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From: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Subject: Dougie for tonight's game
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:34:21 GMT
Reply-To: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

          There are two games in WSC this weekend. Both of them in Brisbane and
both involving West Indies. The games start at 6:00 pm EST. The radio
commentary starts at 8:00 EST and the frequencies are 21740 kHz and 15240 kHz.

         Tonight's game is against Pakistan and tomorrow's against Australia.
As both the games involve West Indies, I expect that they will be shown live in
West Indies.

         If at all possible, I will be running dougie tonight. Those of you who
have a running dougie program will be able to get live scores. The machine on
which it will be run is:

     plains.nodak.edu

      You will have ti finger  sankara@plains.nodak.edu  to get the port number
after I start dougie. I will start it at 5:55 pm EST.

      For those of you who cannot run dougie you can finger to one of the three
addresses:

sankara@plains.nodak.edu
ksrao@energy.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu

     Finally, for those who cannot even have the finger command, the scores
will be posted every 15 minutes on r.c.s ( and less frequently to CRICKETS).

     There is only one snag in the whole operation. I have only one telephone
line at home and I may be forced to pull the plug at anytime.


K. Sankara Rao                          e-mail k.srao@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu

Department of Electrical Engineering
Fargo, ND 58105  USA

Phone:  (701)237-7217  (o)
        (701)235-9912  (h)

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From: farrell@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au (John Farrell)
Subject: Re: Haynes fined
Organization: James Cook University
Date: 11 Jan 93 02:55:33 GMT

In <C0nyrt.EL0@ns1.nodak.edu> ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu writes:
>       It was reported on BBC Sports Roundup that Haynes was fined for his
>behaviour after he was given out. I find it utterly rediculous decision after
>watching the dismissal and what Haynes did on the field.

  I agree! The administrators are getting a bit carried away! The Border fine
was ridiculous as well. Haynes' actions on the field are the only reasons I
have heard.

Friendless
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From: s1172217@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (Mark Smith)
Subject: Re: There is still hope for Test cricket!
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:59:52 GMT

yeshwant@chico.cse.ogi.edu (Yeshwant K Muthusamy) writes:


>Hats off to the Pakistanis' for their exciting 34-run victory over
>New Zealand. I envy the guys who were fortunate enough to watch this
>Test. Quick wickets, determined batting (Greatbatch and Miandad),
>see-sawing fortunes, awesome displays of pace and swing bowling from
>Akram and Younis... who says Test cricket is on the decline?!

>If only every Test match were as exciting and decisive as this one!

>Yeshwant

Exactly!  I've just spent 5 days at the Melbourne test where Aus beat the
Windies and found it througherly enthralling, the battles and battles within
the battles and the overall game was great to be in attendence thereof.  One
dayers while they provide alot of "highlights" ie. fast scoring, they are very
standardised streotyped games which all seem to follow a set pattern that is
only rarely broken (Patel opening the bowling for instance).  As most of them
are very similar to the other ones I find them boring in a way, and I
personally enjoy far more a good old test match, so in a couple of weeks I'm
off to see 3 days of the Adelaide match, its a tough life!

+------------------------------------+
|  Mark Smith.                       |
|  <s1172217@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au> |
|  Churchill, Victoria, Australia.   |
|  Monash Uni Gippsland Computing    |
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From: rgajendr@cisco.com (I. Rajeev Gajendran)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Fletcher:  Who is he.....
Date: 6 Jan 1993 03:05:34 GMT
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Thanks very much for the articles. This is r.s.c. at its best! 
Where are you getting the information from, just out of curiosity,
and is this service likely to continue ? :-)
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From: dv@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (Deepak Vaidya)
Subject: Finger dv@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu to get SA/IND T4 Scores
Organization: Johns Hopkins Univ. Welch Medical Library
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:02:07 GMT

The subject line say it all.  If you want to find the latest score
finger dv@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu.  I am running dougie provided
by Pieter in SA, which is updating my plan file automatically (sp?).

- Deepak

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From: S.G.Abbas@massey.ac.nz (S.G. Abbas)
Subject: Re: WSC game tonight
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 06:34:19 GMT


My dear Aamir (not Aamir Sohail)

Mind you if they are tired now, then what they will do in SA. Do you
know they are proceeding to SA to play yet another triangular series in
which Pak, WI, and SA are involved. Being "hero" I believe the team is
answerable to nation. Of course loosing or winning is part of the game.
One has to loose, but loosing in a manner in which these world cup
holder are loosing is shameful.

Ghazanfar
From: aspi@natinst.com (Aspi Havewala)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Kiran Bashing?
Date: 11 Jan 1993 09:07:47 -0600
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
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Hi guys,
	I've been reading this Kiran More-bashing for some time now.
Again, I do not want to make it sound like YABB (yet another baroda
boy) is holding up for Kiran. But the guy has been extremely dedicated.
He brings a passion to Indian cricket like a good wicketkeeper should.
And above all he CARES about how India does.

	I guess people from baroda got to see his dedication first
hand which makes for this. But he works hard. He keeps well to the
spinners and he doesn't complain if the wickets are bad. So, he's
short and thats his shortcoming against the pacemen. How long he can
keep up is anybody's guess esp. with the Indian bowlers becoming
faster now (or so I've heard). But hey, chopping off your right
index finger to forget the pain in your left thigh doesn't help
matters for long, does it?

	Is everyone trying to suggest that there IS a better
wicketkeeper in India today than Kiran? C'mon guys! BTW, despite all
the fame he's achieved (and a sports bootique shop in Baroda) Kiran
remains the pereniall cordial nice guy. (I know, I know, this is NOT
relevant, but what the heck, this post is about trying to make all of
you love Kiran anyway :-)).

Cheers, _Aspi_
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From: urajan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Uday Rajan)
Subject: Pak-NZ D4 - NZ 88/7
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 01:12:08 GMT

Jones  c Mujtaba b Waqar   19   Good sharp slip catch, well held by Mujtaba
Parore c Rashid b Wasim    13   Earned the penalty reserved for flashers
Latham b Waqar              0   Stumps flying - blood and thunder stuff
Rutherford c Sohail b Wasim 9   Caught at second slip off outside edge
Harris n.o.                 9

Fall of Wickets: 4/65,5/67,6/71,7/88

Wasim Akram 5/42, Waqar Younis 2/20

Waqar and Wasim have bowled for an hour and a half on the stretch - 8 overs 
each.


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From: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
Subject: re: bowling speed of waqa
Reply-To: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 9 Jan 93 23:29:29 EST

 Quoting: Murali Cotah 
 MC> could some "intelligent" earthling tell me how "fast" is a fast ball
 MC> when pitched in major   leagues (baseball). Would like some
 MC> comparisons and possible "scientific" explanations. cotah

[This explanation comes to you from the home of the WORLD SERIES
CHAMPION Toronto Blue Jays, the pride of all Canadians and
hyphenated Canadians, such as this Pakistani-Canadian]

A zippy fastball - "lively" - is over 90 mph.  Someone with that
sort of fastball has serious "stuff".

But the real "power pitchers" -- guys like Roger Clemens, David
Cone, Juan Guzman - have fastballs that are over 95 mph, and top off
at around 97/98 mph.

There are some guys who are reputed to hit 100 mph, but their
accuracy, or lack thereof, negates this extra zip.

The clearest reason for the extra 10 mph speed for pitchers, as
compared to bowlers, is the very fact that bowlers have their
"circular motion, above the head, one-bounce" delivery, while the
pitcher can hurl it in any way they want to, and don't need to
bounce the ball (due to the strike zone of baseball and the
difference in objective: the batter can ignore the low or high
ball). 

Faraz Rabbani
Toronto, Canada

faraz.rabbani@canrem.com

... As easy as 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: tripunit@algol.cs.psu.edu (Mahesh V Tripunitara)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Cricket Commentary Faux Pas
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:30:38 GMT
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

In article <104333@netnews.upenn.edu> sarath@ee.upenn.edu (P. Sarath Kumar) writes:

>No cover, no extra cover, just a gully between two fine
>legs.

Hmm...are you pulling our (fine) legs? The way I understand it, gully is a
position on the off-side, while fine leg is the counterpart of the third-
man on the on- (leg) side...

Mahesh.
From: pieter@ford.ee.up.ac.za (Pieter Vermeulen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Some thoughts...
Date: 4 Jan 93 05:31:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: ford.pieter.726125501
Organization: University of Pretoria, South Africa

bharat@cs.uiuc.edu (R. Bharat Rao) writes:

>Speaking dispassionately, the best choice is probably one Ravishankar
>Shastri.  Just as Azhar's batting went South with being appointed
>captain, I think Shastri's batting will improve as captain.  The only
>problem is that Shastri will then open for the ODI's, and THAT is a
>problem...  Also, Shastri was reportedly hated by the players as a
>captain, but perhaps a spell of having a hard taskmaster at the helm
>will improve matters.
Don't know if it has been pointed out allready, but Shastri just
underwent some knee surgery in Cape Town; which is the reason
Prabhakar is opening the batting in the fourth test. 

From what I could gather from the local TV commentators (including
Gavaskar and Banister) they reckoned any change of captaincy would go
Kapil's way.

There has been a lot critisism on Azhar's field placings and his
bowling changes during this fourth test. Raju was getting a lot of
spin from one end and had a most impressive spell of ten overs from
that end on the first day. He never bowled from that side again as far
as I can recall. Srinath was taken off after another impressive spell
just after he took a wicket.  As for his field placings: Jadeja with a
split webbing between his thumb and index finger was fielding at point
in the first session. He went off the field soon after that and was
replaced by Sharma at point. Sharma also has an injury on his left
hand and he refused to use that hand while fielding; adding some runs
for SA.  The bat-pad men are also placed very straight and not square
as is more common. This lead to at least three wasted chances....

Enough Azhar bashing for now....

Pieter
From: nitin@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Nitin Bhave)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:36:19 GMT
Subject: Re: Gavaskar's opening partners
Organization: HP Scientific Instruments Division - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket

>Sudhir Naik             Never clicked in the 1971 tour of England.
					      ^^^^
					     
Should be '74. He scored 4 and 76 in the only test (third) he played.
In '71, he led Bombay when Wadekar and the gang was in WI.

Nitin Bhave
nitin@sid.hp.com
From: shafqat@neuro.duke.edu (Saad Shafqat)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: A v WI, end of 4th day
Date: 7 Jan 93 00:38:13 GMT
Organization: Duke University.

>
>                                            (Sobers 365 tops the list,
>Holding on the TV said the players in the dressing room were looking for
>Lara to pass that mark - that was just before he got out...) 



Sobers's 365 has now reigned longer than any other highest
individual test score.  Bannerman's 165, Bradman's 334, Hutton's
364, others, none of these lasted as records for longer than 
20 years, and most for less than that.  Bradman's 334 from 1930
was bettered by Hutton's 364 in 1934, and then Sobers made his
365 in 1957, ending Hutton's 23-year reign.  It is now 1993 and
Sobers's 365* is still king, 36 years later.  Several batsman
have come tantalisingly close.  Gooch being the closest with
333 (Hanif's 337 preceded Sobers by a few days), and a string of 
others with scores over 250, which is the point one can start looking at 
365 with some realism.  How much longer ?  And who will it be ?
There was a time when Miandad looked a very serious contender (280*
at Hyderabad, 260 at the Oval, 271 at Auckland) but doesn't anymore.
But it might just be Martin Crowe.  He is, after all, the best
batsman in cricket today and has already teased with his 299 (run
out, was it ?).  



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Subject: Pakistan won test agnst NZ by 34 runs.
From: A.Qadir@massey.ac.nz (A. Qadir)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 02:01:05 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
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Congratulations!
Pakistan have won test match against New Zealand by 34 runs.
Altaf Qadir
From: prasad@cpdw.enet.dec.com (Bharani Prasad)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Fletcher - Boycott - Subba Row
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:08:11 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <00966341.3C160AE0@vms.csd.mu.edu>, 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu (Murali Iyer) writes...
<stuff deleted>

>to pull a Test back. Yet team selection was awry and too much official time was
>spent genuflecting in front of local officials instead of tackling problems
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm reminded of a certain incident during that tour. The then CM of Andhra
Pradesh, Mr. Anjaiah (sp?), hosted a dinner at Hyderabad for the visitors.
Mr. Anjaiah (sp?) was a bit late for the dinner. He was confronted with this
comment from Boycott, "Hey, old man, did U realise U had kept us waiting".
Imagine if the scene was set in England and the comment had been uttered by
an Indian cricketer. I shudder to think.

>head-on. I don't know if it impressed the locals but it offended me - there has
>to be apoint at which good manners ends and fawning begins. As a professional
>trying to win a Test series I expected nothing more from the Indian officials
>than efficiency and straight dealing. I have no reason to think they expected
>anything more from us, but I rather fancy they got it. I obtained my apology

/Bharani
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From: sidi@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Sadiq Yusuf)
Subject: Run rates ( was Re: WSC game tonight
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 04:32:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.024635.15634@cs.sfu.ca> aamir@cs.sfu.ca (Aamir Husain) writes:
>In article <1993Jan12.015310.20768@massey.ac.nz>, S.G.Abbas@massey.ac.nz (S.G. Abbas) writes:
>> 
>> 
>
>Relax its not going to be that bad. i forecast about 110 runs :-)
>on a lighter note anyone knows the run-rate etc required by pakistan
>to make it, that is offcourse if they make more than 100 runs today
>
>keeping my fingers crossed, boy are they getting tired
>
>Aamir

	Am not certain, but since there has been no other response to this
question I'll have a go.
	It's not run rate , but run-differential thats used in Oz land.
Before the last round of games, Pak was supposedly -0.6 and Oz was -0.10. I
know that Pak slipped to about -0.9 after the Wi game. Considering Oz lost
by just 7 runs, the differential ought not to be greatly affected there. Am
assuming approx -0.1 there. 
	Now, diff between the 2 teams is approx 0.8 right ?? This is
total run differential - so for 6 games, it will be 0.8 * 6 = 4.8 overall.
To match this, Pak have to make up 4.8 overall, in 2 games ie 2.4 a game.
The run differential has to be 2.4 runs/over in each game. 50 overs.
	So, if Pak bats first each time, I guess they have to win by
50*2.4=120 . So , they need to win each game by about 120 runs.Tall order,
to say the least. 
	Disclaimer - this is only my understanding of run differential.
Also, as you can see, figures are very rough. Would appreciate it if anyone
can point out errors of method. ( well, won't appreciate it, but will
tolerate it ;-) )

			Sadiq [ mathematician ] Yusuf
From: kpw105@huxley.anu.edu.au (Ken Wessen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Cricket Commentary Faux Pas
Followup-To: rec.sport.cricket
Date: 13 Jan 1993 00:52:04 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
Distribution: world
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Unfortunately I cannot recall the exact words, but the last time the West
Indies were in Australia, Max Walker was commenting on having seen Curtly
Ambrose batting in the nets, with his thigh pad worn on the outside, and
commenting on how long it was.  However, his choice of words was not the
best....

"That piece in his trousers must be 90cm long!"

I'm not sure about the 90cm.  It is definitely what I remember, and I
remember thinking at the time it was too long (even for a thigh pad  :-) 
), but it is not impossible for Max Walker to have exaggerated that much
without thinking.
Anyone in Australia remember this comment?

Ken
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