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From: djh@xipe.osc.edu (David Heisterberg)
Subject: Re: MRI
Organization: The Ohio Supercomputer Center
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:47:52 GMT

In article <167C47B80.M20614@mwvm.mitre.org> M20614@mwvm.mitre.org (Hugh Pritchard) writes:
>Moreover, MRI scans use radio waves given off by the water molecules in the
>patient's own body.  [The water molecules are "aligned" by an external
>magnetic field and an external field of radio waves tuned for water molecules;
>when these are turned off, the water molecules emit radio waves (yes, at a
>particular frequency) as they return to their random orientations.]

Almost.  The energy levels available to hydrogen nuclei (ie. protons) are
split by a magnetic field.  This applies whether the protons are in water,
glucose, or what-have-you, but of course water is abundant in the body.
There is no molecular alignment.  An appropriate radio frequency can be
absorbed by the protons resulting in a transition between the "spin-up"
and "spin-down" states.  What's typically measured then is the absorbtion,
not emission of RF.
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From: billie@camelot.bradley.edu (Eliot Frick)
Subject: Dormant Period
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Archive-Number: 4826
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date:  8 Apr 92 18:48:02 GMT

Can someone send me information on the period of dormancy that AIDS goes
through?  I have heard it suggested that if any progress were to be made in
finding a vaccine it would be in the area of this period.  Thanks.
--
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From: murphy@athena.cs.uga.edu (Mike Murphy)
Newsgroups: sci.med.aids
Subject: How long between HIV infection and symptoms?
Date: 12 Apr 92 13:37:08 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
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Archive-Number: 4845

How long (on average and the extremes) can a person have the HIV
virus before showing clear symptoms?

Thanks,
mike

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From: Billi Goldberg <bigoldberg@igc.org>
Subject: Medical Openness
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Archive-Number: 4836
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 21:17:06 PDT

The following post is from the SF AidsInfo BBS.  Elswood is one of the
authors of the Origin of AIDS and supplied this information to Tom
Curtis who wrote the Rolling Stone article and others.  He is also
a long-standing DNCB proponent who helped me understand about DNCB and
many other things.  He knew DNCB worked, but not why.  Now with new
articles appearing concerning Langerhans, dendritic, and follicular
dendritic cells, the why is becoming apparent.

*********************************************************************

From: Elswood
To:   All

Subject: Grand Rounds at Stanford - Medicine's Shining Moment

About four weeks ago, I was approached by Dr. Tim Flynn of Stanford
University's Dermatology Department and asked to give a talk on 
April 8th to the faculty, interns, residents and medical students 
on the origin of AIDS as detailed in Rolling Stone magazine (which
Dr. Flynn evidently subscribes to) and my own scientific article now 
in press with the Pasteur Institute's Research In Virology journal.  
I quickly agreed.  Subsequently, Dr. Flynn told me that there was 
lots of "excitement" about my up-coming talk and that the infectious
disease doctors would also be attending.

This morning I arrived at Stanford's Medical Center Conference room 
to find Dr. Flynn and a few brave medical students and residents 
waiting to hear my presentation.  But first they apologized for the 
low turnout, explaining that the medical faculty had decided to 
boycott the event because I wasn't a certified doctor (and had made 
no pretense to be one).  Rather then listen and critique and question 
my presentation, they had decided en mass to boycott it on the 
grounds that I wasn't a "club member"!

Thought you might be interested in this shining moment in academic and
scientific investigation...

**********************************************************************

Billi's Comments:

Thomas Kuhn in the "Structure of Scientific Revolutions" explained
it all.  I only wish that it was not true.  Perhaps it is one explanation
of why so little progress has been made. 

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From: neptune!banks@iex.iex.com (Nathan Banks)
Subject: Cures in vectors
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Archive-Number: 4821
Organization: iex
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 19:32:21 GMT

Has there been any research to determine why mosquitoes are NOT carriers of
AIDS? I am not a microbiologist (viralogist?), but is there a chance that
these known-to-be-vectors of other diseases have agents which break up the
virus?

Curious,
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From: v136pds9@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu
Subject: Re: How long between HIV infection and symptoms?
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Archive-Number: 4848
Organization: University at Buffalo
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 22:59:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.140216.26713@cs.ucla.edu>, murphy@athena.cs.uga.edu (Mike Murphy) writes...
>How long (on average and the extremes) can a person have the HIV
>virus before showing clear symptoms?

	As much as I have tried to follow the numbers, all
I can come up with is a number which seems to corrilate to about 1980.

	So  , now they say 5-10 years.  I don't believe enough
is known about the actual cause of death for an HIV infected
person and therefore, IMHO, they are comparing apples and oranges
by looking at the T-4 count as an indication of how far the
disease has progressed.

JOHN
From: jay@banzai.PCC.COM (Jay Schuster)
Newsgroups: sci.med.aids
Subject: Household Transmission
Summary: First case reported by CDC
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:14:55 GMT
Organization: The People's Computer Company, Williston, VT
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Archive-Number: 4859

Has anyone heard *anything* about the CDC's release of the first case
of household transmission of HIV?

My housemate works for the department of health here (Vermont) in the
STD division.  He says that the CDC just released a history of a family
where two sons are hemophiliacs.  The children are both young.  One is
7 years old and is HIV+, presumably from infected Factor VIII he was
injected with from before it was tested.  The other is 3 years old and
has spent his entire life with HIV-free Factor VIII.  He still was
tested regularly, though.

The 3 year old seroconverted.

The mother sometimes injects both of them together, but she swears that
there were no needlesticks or shared needles.

The only suggestion my housemate had was that they teach young
hemophiliacs to be unafraid of needles by playing with them.  Maybe the
three year old somehow got some of his brothers needles and was playing
with it?

Anyway, we expected widespread media panic, but haven't seen anything.
Nor have I seen anything here.  Are we just in our own little world
or what?
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From: entropy@parker.WPI.EDU (Lawrence C Foard)
Subject: gene replacement?
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Archive-Number: 4853
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 11:34:50 GMT

I just noticed an article about gene therapy being used to treat cancer. Could
the same be done with HIV? Apparently there are quite a few very long term
survivors of HIV, would it be possible to transplant the genes that allow
someone to survive (possibly indefinitly) into people who don't have them? 
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From: rossini@biosun3.harvard.edu (Anthony Rossini)
Subject: Re: How long between HIV infection and symptoms?
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Archive-Number: 4852
Organization: Biostat Dept, HSPH, Boston MA, USA.
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:36:21 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.024740.14947@cs.ucla.edu> v136pds9@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu writes:

> In article <1992Apr12.140216.26713@cs.ucla.edu>, murphy@athena.cs.uga.edu (Mike Murphy) writes...
> >How long (on average and the extremes) can a person have the HIV
> >virus before showing clear symptoms?
> 
> 	As much as I have tried to follow the numbers, all
> I can come up with is a number which seems to corrilate to about 1980.
> 
> 	So  , now they say 5-10 years.  I don't believe enough
> is known about the actual cause of death for an HIV infected
> person and therefore, IMHO, they are comparing apples and oranges
> by looking at the T-4 count as an indication of how far the
> disease has progressed.

Last estimates gave a median time of 10.5 years, and were rising.  With
respect to CD4 count (T4 count); it's an indicator of advanced disease.  The
question is, how good?  And that (at least from people I've talked with) is
unknown... 

-tony
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From: "Robert S. Walker" <RWALKER@TRINITY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: (4812) AIDS news, Bay Area Reporter, April 2, 1992
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Archive-Number: 4816
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date:         Mon, 06 Apr 92 19:03:43 CDT

In response to a question recently posted, "Has the Centers for Disease Contol
issued the long-awaited revised AIDS case definition?"   The answer is "NO."  I
 phoned the CDC on Monday, April 6 to check.  Their spokesperson said only that
 the revision has been postponed indefinitely, and that she had no information
as to why this action (or non-action) was taken.  It is a good guess that some
Bush campaign operative saw the increase in AIDS cases the new definition would
 entail as a possible debit for his boss.

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From: Billi Goldberg <bigoldberg@igc.org>
Subject: Burroughs Wellcome and Project Inform
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Archive-Number: 4837
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 22:15:41 PDT

The following is from the San Francisco Bay Area Reporter dated 
Thursday, 4/9/92.  For some reason it reminds me of statements from 
politicians.

************************************************************************

WELLCOME AWARD TO PROJECT INFORM

Burroughs Wellcome Co. has awarded Project Inform a $149,500 grant to 
upgrade its computer capabilities.  The funds will be used to purchase 
hardware and software and to hire a full-time management information 
systems administrator.  Project Inform's hardware capacity has been 
overtaxed, according to a press release issued by Project Inform.  "It 
is entirely appropriate that companies such as Burroughs Wellcome, which 
profit from the sale of drugs in the AIDS epidemic, put money back into 
the community from which the profits came," Project Inform Executive 
Director Martin Delaney said.  "We are confident that this money comes 
with no strings attached and it will not in any way influence our 
attitudes or the information we distribute.  Nor will it prevent us from 
being a critic of the company in the future, should it be warranted, as 
we have been in the past."
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From: Neon@cup.portal.com
Subject: Re: Blood transfusion--risky?
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Archive-Number: 4811
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Sat,  4 Apr 92 23:14:25 PST

Part of my previous post:

>>I've heard recently that the chance of receiving infected blood in a 
>>transfusion is about 1 in 1,000 per pint of blood.

Part of Brian Hjelle reply:

>This was pretty reasonable up until that last comment. That is
>off by close to 2 orders of magnitude. Several studies have
>converged at about 1 in 60,000 risk per transfused unit, with
>estimates of 1 in 35K at one extreme and 1 in 150K at the other.

I stand corrected!

Tony Bruder
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From: jay@banzai.PCC.COM (Jay Schuster)
Newsgroups: sci.med.aids
Subject: Re: Household Transmission
Date: 17 Apr 92 01:26:50 GMT
Organization: The People's Computer Company, Williston, VT
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Archive-Number: 4865

jay@banzai.PCC.COM (Jay Schuster) writes:
>Has anyone heard *anything* about the CDC's release of the first case
>of household transmission of HIV?

One thing I forgot to mention --- the CDC tested the strains of HIV that
echo of the two children had, and they were identical.
-- 
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From: lpb@stratus.swdc.stratus.com (Len Bucuvalas)
Subject: MESSAGE FOR SCOTT: HOW TO GET SLEEP
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Archive-Number: 4832
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 11:22:53 PDT

I tried to send this but bounced.......if others are suffering insomnia, please
investigate the below....it works and is available at all good health food
stores...
Sincerely,
Len
============================================================================
Scott, go to a good health food store and purchase a bottle of

		Valerian Root Extract

Make sure it has scullcap and passion flower in it....also ask for the maker
who produces the strongest batch......also buy a box of Sleepy Time Herbal Tea
by Celestial Seasonings......mix 1.5 eyedroppers of Valerian to one 8 oz
cup of hot tea.......I think this will help you. It should take effect beginning
in 20 minues with a calming of all brain activity followed by a relaxation in
the extremities and then by a distinctive urge to go to bed.....

Len

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From: trifid@agora.uucp (Roadster Racewerks)
Subject: Re: (4760) Re: The Big Number
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Archive-Number: 4833
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:54:58 GMT

It has been reported in the press here (Oregon) that the incidence is declining
in the gay population, but climbing faster than said decline in the heterosexual
population. I also read that the symptoms in women are significantly different
than in men. Is this true, and does anyone here have a good list of same?

Suze
trifid@agora.rain.com

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From: bdaher@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Brian D Daher)
Subject: Re: (4842) Washington Post Rebuttal
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Archive-Number: 4860
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 22:54:36 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.172138.1016@cs.ucla.edu> Billi Goldberg <bigoldberg@igc.o
rg> writes:
:In Post <7:52 am  Apr 11, 1992 by dmkha%conncoll.B@VM.USC.EDU in
:cdp:sci.med.aids> Danyaal Khan writes:
:
:> I recently read in an article in the National Geographic (I know its
:> not a scientific journal but if Rolling Stone can be refered to....)
:> about tissue samples from a sailor that had been preserved in paraffin
:> for about fifty years
:
:> The sailor had died of an unknown disease. These samples were tested
:> for HIV, I forget what technique was used in particular. In any case
:> the samples tested positive. Now if these samples tested positive and
:> were from approx. fifty years ago then how valid does that leave most
:> of the theories in circulation right now
:
:It validates the theories of the origin of AIDS being in Africa.

:Sailors travel all over the world.  They like sex.  Many sailors are
:bisexual.  I would presume that this sailor could have gone to Africa
:and could have had sex.  He could have been exposed to a pathogenic form
:of SIV.

I'm sorry.  If this is all theory, why does the theory have to include "gay or 
bisexual sailors" or "monkey biting gay man," or anything else with 'gay' or 
'bi' in it?  Why couldn't the theory just say "sailor."  Farther down in the 
article (rest is deleted) it's said the origin of AIDS will help the victims 
prove that they didn't start it (that's an indirect quote but pretty close, I 
think.)  Why then does every origin have to come from bisexual or gay people?
Seventy-five percent of the World's cases are among heterosexuals.

Pardon my sensitivity to this but I can't help seeing a minority percentage of
people with the disease being blamed for its spread in these first few lines
here.
                            --Brian
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From: bhjelle%vaxine.unm.edu@lynx.unm.edu (Brian Hjelle)
Subject: Re: Household Transmission
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Archive-Number: 4862
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 15:01:14 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.031822.1038@cs.ucla.edu> jay@banzai.PCC.COM (Jay Schuster) writes:
>Has anyone heard *anything* about the CDC's release of the first case
>of household transmission of HIV?
>
>My housemate works for the department of health here (Vermont) in the
>STD division.  He says that the CDC just released a history of a family
>where two sons are hemophiliacs.  The children are both young.  One is
>7 years old and is HIV+, presumably from infected Factor VIII he was
>injected with from before it was tested.  The other is 3 years old and
>has spent his entire life with HIV-free Factor VIII.  He still was
>tested regularly, though.
>
>The 3 year old seroconverted.
>
>The mother sometimes injects both of them together, but she swears that
>there were no needlesticks or shared needles.
>
>Anyway, we expected widespread media panic, but haven't seen anything.
>-- 
I no longer get MMWR. Was it reported there?

In addition to the things you mentioned (accidental needle-sharing, etc)
there is also the issue of whether the younger boy got only "HIV-
free" factor VIII. Concentrates are now heat-pasteurized, and some
are run over an affinity column to purify the factor. However,
heat-pasteurizing processes have advanced in the days since the
first studies were done with this process (early 1980s). It is possible
that early preparations of concentrate were not really free of infectious
HIV.

Formal studies of casual transmission of HIV have been done and were
negative. However, as the number of people with HIV increases,
sooner or later some truly odd means of transmission will be
documented. This is predictable, and not a reason to panic.

Brian

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From: scott@phlpa.UUCP (Scott Scheingold)
Subject: insomnia
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Keywords: insomnia
Archive-Number: 4827
Organization: Ian's Playhouse
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 08:46:47 GMT

Hello net,

I am writing this at 4:30AM because I can not sleep. I have not had
a good nights sleep in about 4 days. I am about at the end of my rope.
I go through these phases and the last one to two weeks. Each time it
happens it get harder and harder. I will explain below. 

Case history (brief)

I suffer from AIDS
Meds: Imipramine (Anti-depressent) 200MG at bed time.
      DDI and zantac.
Disabled
Smoker

I am not that active due to cronic fatigue and tire very easily but
have not been sleeping even when tired. I get about an hour of sleep
every 5hrs or so. I am here phyiscly but my mind is not here do to the
lack of sleep. I have tried warm milk, cold milk and even some
alcohol. (Just one drink. I know itis not good but I will try anything)
I have taken sleeping pills but the only one that does not make me a zombie
for days is halcion. All others seem to stay in my system for a couple of
days.

I am sorry if this post is wierd but I don't think straight these days.

Scott
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From: stovall@ficus.CS.UCLA.EDU (Steven Stovall)
Newsgroups: sci.med.aids
Subject: The Origin of Aids
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:18:04 GMT
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
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Archive-Number: 4856

I have been off the net for about six weeks, but would appreciate
obtaining recent posts regarding the Rolling Stone article and the
Origin of Aids. Also if anyone ever responded to my request for pointers
to information on the history of the African epidemic (this was circa
1 March 1992), I did not see the response and would appreciate a re-
transmission.

Thanks.
_______________________________________________________________________________

steven stovall
stovall@exeter.cs.ucla.edu
(310) 825-7307
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From: crossley@oakhill.sps.mot.com (John Crossley)
Subject: Re: insomnia
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Keywords: insomnia
Archive-Number: 4834
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 21:48:37 GMT

tried to send this to you but to no avail. I am not a doctor
so this suggestion is to be discussed with you doctor but it
may work for you, at least I hope so. 

	Hi Scott,

	Imipramine for Deppression? sounds like it. If you can,
	get your doctor to try ZOLOFT. it is an analog of Prozac.

	I can't tolerate prozac but ZOLOFT is working well. I
	have recently switched and as the imipramine is being
	cleared out of my system I'm starting to sleep better.
	also ask to try KLONOPIN as your tranquilizer, it has a
	long half life and doesn't zombie you out. you may
	feel better in the long run. at least I hope so.

	you SMOKE, ok cigs or pot, pot will help with sleep,
	natch it's illegal but.......

	hope this helps.
	John crossley.

	       Breathing

	a butterfly alights
	the air hums with life
	a drop of water falls

	a small splash echos
	a ring expands
	like breathing

	the moss is green
	light softens the glen
	the butterfly dances

	from shadow to light
	a ring expands
	like breathing

	a leaf falls softly
	bouyed on wisps of air
	gently floats on water

	a golden flash
	a ring expands
	like breathing

	the flower opens wings
	flys dipping to the leaf
	soft browns iridecent color

	I fall into you
	a ring expands
	and I am breathing

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