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From: EMN002@email.mot.com (Mary Beth Northrup)
Subject: Re: New daycare adjustment
Organization: Motorola, Inc. Plantation, FL
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:46:08 GMT

In article <92287.095513CLH7@psuvm.psu.edu>, Chris Himes <CLH7@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> 
> Doug is starting his 3rd week at a new daycare center.  He seems to be
> having a pretty hard time, even though he has been in daycare since he was 4
> mos.  old (he is just about 13 mos.  old now).  I was wondering how long
> children of this age take to adjust to this kind of change.  Before the move
> I could leave him happily playing, with a wave good-bye.  Now, he clings to
> me as soon as we enter the building and screams when I leave.  I should add
> that he is in a pretty good mood when I pick him up, and they say he settles
> down pretty well after I leave.
> 
> In the old center, it seemed to take almost a couple of months for him to
> adjust to the "crawler/walker" room when he moved up from the infant room,
> although there were a couple of turnovers in staff at the same time (this
> was a really rough time, too).  Is Doug just a "slow" adjuster?  Or is this
> "normal"for kids this age?
> 
> Are we just going through a renewed separation anxiety phase?  How do you
> tell the difference between adjusting to a new place and there being
> something about the center/caregivers that he doesn't like?
> 
> Any suggestions for ways to make this transition easier?  The first few days
> I spent several hours each morning with him before I left--should I do that
> for awhile longer?  Or is it better to just hand him off and walk out
> quickly (I'm not sure I could do this)?
> 
>  Chris Himes
> 
> 

My son has been in daycare since 4 mo old. Sometimes he gets really upset
when I leave (especially after a vacation or weekend when he's had me
full time), and other days he's fine. When I switched centers a few months
ago (he was 13 mo at the time), I didn't notice it getting better or
worse than before. It just seems to go in cycles with him.

I've tried staying for a few minutes (playing with him to try to get him
interested in a toy, etc.) and I've tried just leaving him sobbing :-(.
Staying doesn't seem to help (I'm just late to work) and I HATE leaving
him really upset. What I've found works the best for me is when the teacher 
holds and cuddles him when I leave. He may still be crying, but at least 
I feel he's being comforted. (Most times he stops crying before I get out 
the front door!)

Just my $0.02.

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| Mary Beth Northrup                    "In the house and on the street .. |
| (mommy to Sean, 15 mo.)																	how many, many feet you meet!"   |
| EMN002@email.mot.com                                   ---  Dr. Seuss    |
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From: elonich@cbnewse.cb.att.com (diane.e.pedersen)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: What happened to Barney?
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:52:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewse.1992Oct15.205218.23390
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville IL

In article <4570271@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com>, janem@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com (Jane Marcus) writes:
> >Uhmm, interesting.  Can you tell us why you don't like Barney?
> 
> I agree that Barney is good entertainment for my kids; I have no
> objection to them watching it.  My point was that *I* hate to watch it.
> I can't stand watching those kids with smiles plastered on their faces 
> and lip-synching.  They're a big bunch of hams.  So, unlike Sesame Street, 
> which I can stand to watch with my kids and sometimes I find it 
> entertaining, I would typically leave the room when Barney comes on.
> 

I finally saw Barney for the first time today (slow start leaving
the house after PBS reworked their morning schedule).   I know
what you mean --- my 23-month-old liked the show, but it was
a little syrupy for me.

But still, it is 100 times better than Nickelodeon's "KidSongs"
which claims that the singing kids found an abandoned TV station
and did all their own techical, camera, costume, makeup, directing,
etc. to put the shows on the air.  RIGHT!!!

Actually, I think the same handful of KidSongs singing kids
does the Barney singing (I've never heard any group of kids
ever sing so on-key in my life).  This group is likely
totally un-related to the kids who dance and mug and lip-sync
on camera.
-- 
Diane Pedersen
AT&T Bell Laboratories
Naperville, Illinois
att!ihlpe!elonich
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: mwalker@taimyr.Colorado.EDU (Marilyn Walker)
Subject: Comfey Carrier number
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:14:52 GMT

Does anyone have the phone number or address for Comfey Carrier?

Thanks.

Marilyn Walker
mwalker@taimyr.colorado.edu

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: reid@metis.tti.com (Reid Kneeland)
Subject: Re: Brazelton on toys (long)
Keywords: toy guns, fads, Madonna posters, computer games
Organization: Transaction Technology Inc.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:32:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.235600.6745@jetsun.weitek.COM> nadja@jetsun.weitek.COM (Nadja Adolf) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.163731.11828@crd.ge.com> dudding@sallyride.crd.ge.com (Kate Dudding) writes:

>>Four- and five-year-olds play war games to test out ways of expressing
>>their newly emerging feelings of aggression.  They _need_ to find safe
>>ways to talk about these feelings and play out these impulses.
>>Meanwhile, parents who have strong feelings against aggressive
>>behavior try to dissuade their children from playing with toys
>>weapons.  What they don't realize is that this is a normal,
>>predictable 4-year-old phase.  Even in isolated, peace-loving tribes,
>>like the Mayans in Mexico, I saw boys of this age in loud, aggressive
>>play.  They, too, made guns with their hands and "shot" at each other.

>Interesting cultural side note. Where I grew up children were NOT allowed
>to point toy guns at each other unless they were playing war and INTENDED 
>to hit a target. (The Indians were the good guys on the reservation.)
>Children were encouraged to play 'hunting party' and 'target practice.'
>'Hunting party' required a lot of cooperation since whoever was playing
>the deer would run and hide.

This was discussed in rec.guns quite recently.  There were several
opinions, but most of them were along this line: toy guns teach very
bad lessons about guns (for example, one of the cardinal rules of gun
safety is that you NEVER point a gun at something you don't intend to
destroy; toy gun play undermines this).  In families that have real
guns in the house, the children are likely to either a) not have toy
guns at all, or b) have toy guns with the restriction that they are for
play hunting or target shooting, not pointing at people.

I just thought it interesting that a sizeable number of gun owners
share the opinion that toy guns aren't a good thing.

If you're wondering, no, I don't have a gun.

=====================================================================
Reid Kneeland
reid@tti.com  (that's MISTER reid@tti.com to you!)
Transaction Technology Inc., Santa Monica, CA, USA (310) 450-9111 x2499
The opinions expressed above do not necessarily etc etc...

Never trust a man who can count to 1,023 on his fingers.
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From: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Newsgroups: misc.kids,misc.education,k12.chat.teacher,sci.med
Subject: Re: Attention Deficit Disorder Resources
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:57:39 GMT
Reply-To: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Followup-To: misc.kids
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <aidler.718384836@sanjuan> aidler@sanjuan.UVic.CA (E Alan Idler) writes:

>How do doctors make their living?
>(By diagnosing illnesses and prescribing treatments.)
>The words and hypocritical actions of these professionals
>cause me to question whenever they recommend something
>"in my interest."

How long have you been reading this group anyway? Everyone here knows
that our only interest is our own wallets, period. We don't care about
patients and never have. We also have a cure for cancer but we won't
release it because it would decrease business. 

The only thing I don't understand is why I had to take all the courses
in medical school, and work all those nights. I don't need all that
knowledge to sell laetrile off the back of a truck. I think we need the
MBAs to go into medicine, streamline things, and get rid of these
silly books.

 -km
From: adf@cs.utexas.edu (Angela Dappert-Farquhar)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: praise vs encouragement?
Date: 7 Oct 1992 12:55:44 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: earth.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Oct7.171343.14959@col.hp.com> beth@col.hp.com (Beth Vail Jones) writes:
>I've recently finished reading "How to Talk So Your Kids Will Listen &
>Listen So Your Kids Will Talk," which addresses the question of
>appropriate praise.

... things deleted 

>They suggest describing how you feel.  Rather than "What's this mess?
>Why are these clothes on the floor?", say, "I get frustrated when I
>clean up the room and then I find a new mess!"
>(The child will think, "Uh-oh, making a mess makes Mom mad" rather than
>"Well, *I* didn't do it - all I did was take off my jacket; hey, don't
>pick on "me*.")

If I remember correctly in "Who is the boss" the author recommended
not to talk about YOUR feelings. He suggested that the above statement
"I get frustrated when .." gives the child the feeling of power over
your emotions. He suggests that wether you are pleased or displeased
with a child's action should never be a question of your emotions but
just a question of whether clear rules have been violated. (I know, to
some degree this is a contradiction in itself.)

Whatever phrase you use will mostly depend on your child's willingness
to cooperate at that moment. But I am off the topic. Doing criticism
right is even harder than finding the right words for encouragement.

   Angela


Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: olsen@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Diane Olsen)
Subject: Re: Victims of Bullies
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 23:19:42 GMT

In article <ldrgebINNbb4@news.bbn.com> ngivler@spca.bbn.com (Noelle Givler) writes:
>I still don't understand, however, why my parents and teachers felt that it was
>my responsability to handle the bullies. As a sociey we discourage adults from
>assaulting other adults, why don't we feel the same way about children hitting
>other children?
>
>Noelle Givler

I agree with Noelle.  As a child I was bullied by many of the neighborhood kids
for being small, shy, and Protestant, as well as for excelling in school.  
For a couple of years, until the kids tired of doing so, I was often chased and 
had mud and rocks thrown at me.  It was terrifying. 

No kid should have to go through what I went through.  Sure, it's important to
learn to stick up for yourself.  But a 6- or 7-year-old child should not have
to be afraid to leave her own house.

--Diane

-- 
Diane L. Olsen		"A woman with a mind is fit for all tasks."
olsen@csli.stanford.edu		--Christine de Pizan (c.1363-c.1431)
From: clark_b@cho006.cho.ge.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: FP car seat recall
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:30:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: cho006.1992Oct16.123036.484
Organization: GE Fanuc Automation, North America


When you call, be sure to have the date of manufacture from your car seat.
It is on a sticker on the back of the seat. 

Better yet, have the seat itself available.

(Nothing more frustrating than finally getting through on the 800 number,
only to have to call again later!)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom)
Subject: Re: Going out to eat with a 2 year old
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:32:23 GMT

In article <23638@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM> smergen@luna.dpl.scg.hac.com (Sandra Mergen) writes:
>
>We're starting to have problems with our 2 year old when we
>go out to a restaurant.  She used to sit in a high chair
>pretty well, and we could entertain her with crayons, etc.
>Our 9 month old does real well.

When Jeffrey was younger he was great in a restaurant. Why not? he loved
to eat, so a restaurant was a big sucess. As he apporached the twos, and
food became less important to him, meals out lost their appeal for him, 
and us. I basically stopped going out to eat with him, and started taking
out. We started a quest for decent restaurants that delivered ;-).

He is 2.5 years old now, and enjoys the idea of eating out again, even if the
idea of food is still not that important. Because he enjoys it, we have
leverage over him. He knows he has to behave in a restaurant, or we wont go
for a while. We have been going out a lot lately, and with the excepting of
one time last week his behavior has been good. After the one time that he was
bad (he was probably the worst behaved 2 year old that restaurant has ever
seen :-( ), I told him we wouldnt be going for a while. His bad behavior
was explainable by the fact that he was very sleepy (he took a 4.5 hour nap
when we got home), but later that night I did tell him that we would go out
for a while. he told me he wanted to go back to the restaurant so he could
be good, and also to see the fish tank.

I dont think you can could on good behavior from a child who is somewhere
they dont want to be. YOu may have to wait a while until she can get find it
enjoyable. Of course, by that time, your 9 month old may be entering that
stage ;-).
>
Laura Floom
From: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: East Bay Regional Parks/dog restrictions
Date: 9 Oct 1992 14:42:13 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Distribution: world
Reply-To: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
NNTP-Posting-Host: roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu
Originator: pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <1992Oct9.002209.6446@leland.Stanford.EDU>, eap@leland.Stanford.EDU (Eric Perozziello) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct8.194203.19168@adobe.com> pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai) writes:
|> >How are you supposed to teach a ten-year old that an unfenced abandoned
|> >railroad turntable, which probably looks a lot like equipment at
|> >a playground, is dangerous and can hurt him badly, when you don't
|> >even know there is one in your neighborhood?
|> >
|> Very Simple: Don't let your kid roam, and play in areas that you
|> don't know about. If they wanna explore, go with 'em!

And chain them to their beds in case, while you're asleep, they figure 
out how to open the door locks, I suppose. Hmmmph.

Paula Burch
pburch@bcm.tmc.edu
From: kim@m44.unm.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Sugarbabies
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:24:26 GMT
Reply-To: kim@m44.unm.edu
Organization: UNM Cancer Center, Albuquerque, NM

In article <1b4qmgINNona@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>, pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch) writes:
>
>In article <1992Oct6.181955.4039@ims.com>, johnnyb@flamingo.ims.com (Johnny Battle) writes:
>
(stuff omitted)
>
>Wait a minute--honey is practically devoid of nutritional value, it's 
>really nothing but sugar! Oh, but it's "natural." So is poison ivy, so 
>that's not much of a selling point--and wait a minute, wasn't the sugar 
>cane used to make the sugar a product of nature?
>              

To take the point even further, in Health food stores, one can find bottles of
"cane juice" as a sweetener.  

Sucrose _is_ exquisitely useful to _Strep. mutans_ for the manufacture of the
polymer Dextran, that protects this cavity-promoting bacterium from being
washed off of tooth enamel.

As with most food fads, the original message was not to take the food product
in question in such quantities as to unbalance your diet, but to eat a variety
of foods. (My conjecture).

Daniel Kim
From: dudding@sallyride.crd.ge.com (Kate Dudding)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: When did you feel "grown-up"  (was: Re: maternity lingerie)
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:53:36 GMT
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

When I first looked up what the retirement benefits were at my company.

-- 
Kate Dudding                                   dudding@crd.ge.com
GE Corporate Research and Development
Bldg. KW, Room C315
PO Box 8, Schenectady, NY 12301                (518) 387-7164
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From: pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai)
Newsgroups: misc.kids,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: East Bay Regional Parks/dog restrictions
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:05:39 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

In article <1992Oct13.181743.9597@ttinews.tti.com> reid@metis.tti.com (Reid Kneeland) writes:
>>>Someone asked about relative stats between the dangers of unsecured
>>>pools and unsecured firearms. My world almanac shows that in 1990, the
>>>number of drownings per 100,000 was 1.9 and the number of deaths from
>>>firearms accidents was 0.6.
>
>Phil - Are the above numbers for kids, or all age groups?

For all age groups. These are pretty gross numbers, it's hard to pick a
whole lot of information out of them (and I never claimed anyone could).

-- 
My opinions are my own.
Happy owner of a new Mitsubishi Expo.
Newsgroups: misc.kids,rec.arts.books
From: kuenning@mahler.Eng.Sun.COM (Geoff Kuenning)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Pregnancy and Wine sauce
Date: 14 Oct 1992 21:48:40 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: mahler
Keywords: pregnancy, food, wine

I heard a news item this morning about wine sauces.  Contrary to
popular belief (and my posting last week), alcohol *can* remain in a
wine sauce, ranging from trace amounts to large quantities.  Flambeed
desserts do not burn off all the alcohol.  The report cited cherries
jubilee as being equivalent to a fairly stiff drink.  But they didn't
give any guidelines for deciding what's "safe" and what's not.

In article <1bhvuaINNf4h@news.aero.org> hancock@Aero.org (Melody F.
Hancock) writes:

> Oh No!  I hadn't even thought of this.  I was on a business
> trip and had seafood in a white wine sauce.  I was in the
> 3rd month of pregnancy at the time.  Interesting enough, this
> is one of my favorite dishes.  However, it didn't taste that
> great so I only ate enough not to seem rude.  But I didn't 
> even think of the wine!!!  So, now what?  I've already started
> fantasizing birth defects!

Relax.  People have been having healthy children for centuries without
knowing anything about prenatal care.  The alcohol/birth defect
connection is statistical:  defect rates go up as alcohol consumption
increases.  But a single drink isn't going to guarantee you a crippled
baby, any more than perfect prenatal care is going to guarantee a
healthy one.  Yes, it makes sense to be aware of these things and to
be a bit careful.  But unless you're an alcoholic chain smoker, you
don't need to lie awake nights worrying about the one drink you took
last week.

Personally, I think we've gone overboard on the prenatal-abstinence
bit.  The LA Times had an article yesterday claiming that the good
mother would start her abstinence-and-exercise regimen several months
before conceiving.  To me, that sounds like the people who played
Mozart into their belly in hopes of producing a "superbaby".

Pregnancy shouldn't be like doing penance.
--
	Geoff Kuenning   geoff@itcorp.com   uunet!desint!geoff
From: acorstor@sequent.com (Alisa Corstorphine)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Fisher Price seat recall
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:34:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Oct14.183423.18889
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.

It seems I have been more successful than most.  I called the
number given in the post for the recall of the 9100 model seat.
The first day I called I couldn't get through.  On Monday I
tried again at 8:45am (Oregon time), and got through after
the 3rd or 4th time.  The phone rang maybe 15-20 times before
a recorder went on, and then less than a minute later someone
picked up the phone.  

I have two of the carseats.  One manufactured in 6/2/88, and the
other 9/18/89.  Both were affected.  They asked if I had participated
in the recall a while back, where they ended up sending a foam pad
for the part between the cushion and the hard plastic. (I had done this
a year or so ago. I think it had to do with it not being as fire 
retardent before.)  Then they told me to make sure the little button
on the strap which prevents the belt from retracting too far was very
secure.  Finally they said both T-shields would be replaced as they 
had problems with cracking.  They said to test and make sure the seats
clicked, and were secure each time before using.  An interesting note is
that there was already a similar recall where they replace the T-shield
on one of my seats about a year and a half ago.  They said this was a 
new recall, and both would be replaced.  They said I should receive
the new shields in 7-10 DAYS, not 14 weeks like I just read in
another post.  I talked to a woman named Linda if that makes any
difference....;

Good luck.

Alisa Corstorphine
acorstor@sequent.com
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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: misc.kids,soc.singles
Subject: Re: BARBIE DOES IT AGAIN!!!!
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:06:16 GMT
Followup-To: misc.kids
Distribution: na
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Oct11.123648.8064@ac.dal.ca> brentaa@ac.dal.ca (brent, eh?) writes:

|	As a child, I was always smaller than the other kids, and less
|coordinated, and so some would think a prime target for being bullied
|and picked on.

|	I avoided all signifigant violence while growing up, from grade 
|school through high school, by using my brains and my mouth.  There were
|times when I was pushed around a bit, but that's part of life, not an
|irreperable scar on the psyche of the child...
|
|					-Brontosaur who turned out just fine.

Uh, isn't a Brontosaurus a rather large creature?  Any reason why you chose
that psuedonym?

As another datapoint, I was also very small while in school.  In fact except
for my younger brother, I was the shortest kid in high school.  I also managed
to go through my youth without *ever* getting in a fight.  Sure, I was picked 
on some, but using my wit and charm I was able to make friends with even the
toughest bullies.  Although I ended up growing to a reasonable hieght I managed
to keep my wit and charm. :-)

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira     | Auspex Systems | "Auspex does not share my opinions.  |
| johnf@auspex.com | Santa Clara CA |  So Why am I still working here?"    |
+==========================================================================+
Newsgroups: misc.kids,misc.education,k12.chat.teacher,sci.med,chi.general
From: learn@speedy.acns.nwu.edu (William J. Vajk)
Subject: Re: Attention Deficit Disorder Resources
Organization: Dares No Organization Like Dis Organization
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:01:37 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.135213.23890@ll.mit.edu> Alan Yasutovich writes:


>	Standing question:  If I drank a glass of kerosine, gas, or
>	oil and claimed to feel ill, would anyone not believe me.

If you had to ask this question, then you don't truly understand 
usenet.

Bill Vajk
From: smb@ulysses.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: The new Thermoscan ear thermometer
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:36:38 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

We use an ``ordinary'' digital thermometer, in the armpit.  It's not
super accurate, but it's an easy position to use on wiggling kids,
because you can sit them on your lap, and easily hold their arms close
to their bodies.  And you *don't* have to stick things in their ears,
setting a *very* bad precedent for the little monkeys...  (Recent
dialog, after hearing some *very* loud pounding:  ``Daniel, what are
you doing?''  ``I'm hammering a nail into the wall.'' ``Stop that!''
``But you do it, Daddy.'' ``I know what I'm doing!'' ``So do I!'')
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