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From: jeremy@cctwin.ee.ntu.edu.tw (An Chieh-Ming)
Subject: Re: freon
Organization: NTUTaiwan
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:30:04 GMT

	Well, I've had first-hand experience on this subject.  No, it
wasn't from an attempt to get high.  Once when I was MUCH younger and
dumber, I wanted to demonstrate the concept of gas density for my
friends, and my alchohol-sozzled brain had conveniently put Freon in
segment 8 of the periodic table of elements right below argon, and as
an inert element, mostly harmless, heh?  So grabbing a nearby can, I
took a big whiff...  It had the desired effect of putting my voice
into the sub-baritone range.  It had the undesired effect of making me
collapse and feel like vomiting.  No folks, do NOT inhale freon under
any circumstances, in addition to being dangerous, it is not even a
little teensy bit fun.  For anyone who is in the position of not being
able to find other substances to abuse, I can think of about
6.02x10^23 things I would suggest BEFORE trying Freon.

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From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: THC extraction
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:08:32 GMT

In article D9C@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu, jelson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu () writes:
>
>How does a soxhlet extractor work, would
>this increase either the quality or quantity of the extraction, and is this
>something readily avaliable from a chemistry supply store? 

Find a book called "Cannabis Alchemy", which tells you how to build a
soxhlet extractor out of ordinary kitchen hardware.  If could remember
the author's name, I'd tell you, but I can't so I won't.  I think he's
the guy who invented the "Isomerizer" and the "Iso-2", as seen in High
Times.

have fun
gak
107/H/3&4

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From: ahaigh@unixg.ubc.ca (Andrew B Haigh)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Rush
Date: 24 Jan 93 07:47:23 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca
Keywords: amyl,butyl,isopropyl,nitrate

	"Rush" was originally amyl nitrate, a vasodilator that was commonly prescribed to angina patients until people found out that they could enhance their orgasms by inhaling it. Amyl was then made illegal to distribute. It was then substituted with butyl nitrate, isopropyl nitrate, and a host of other nitrate formulas all doing the swame thing, but not as strong as the original amyl formulation. 

	When inhaled by someone under the influence of alcohol, marijuana, and whatever psychedelic you favour, it can take the back of your head off as you come. 

	One warning though, you don't want to do too much at once (it can mmake you puke) and once you come down, be sure to open a window.

			ahaigh@unixg.ubc.ca

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From: jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
Subject: Re: Robitussin
Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics, Cambridge, MA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 07:19:44 GMT


domnatr@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kane) writes:

>synapses:   neuroelectrical signals related to conscious thought, motor
>            responses, general mental activity

[and other definitions... and then:]

>Got it?  Good.  I didn't think all those 'brain-related' terms were that
>hard.

If you are going to be condescending it really pays to be accurate.
Your definition of "synapse" is wrong, as far as I can tell.  It's not a
signal, it's a place.  Just to make sure I cracked open a dictionary.
It says "the locus at which a signal passes from the axon of one neuron
to the dendrites of another." 

And if I recall aright:

Locus:   place

Axon:    long skinny thing

Dendrites:   little branchy things

Neuron:   brain cell that helps you think

In general, if you mellow out a bit people will give you more slack.
From: mcbeeb@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (Brian Mcbee)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: impurities in mdma
Date: 23 Jan 1993 18:40:27 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: atlantis.cs.orst.edu

A short note on chemicals that may be carcinogenic.  Studies are 
typically done on animal models.  There are very few substances that
have been shown to be carcinogenic in humans.  Unfortunately, I don't
think there is much evidence that that you can extrapolate from
animal studies to humans. It has been assumed that you can, but...
I guess it is not uncommon to find that a substance causes cancer in
rats, but not in dogs, or it will in guinea pigs, but not in mice, etc.

In other words, I ain't convinced.
From: edith@triton.unm.edu (peter menning)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Marijuana and Vitamin C synergy?
Date: 23 Jan 1993 22:27:56 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
NNTP-Posting-Host: triton.unm.edu

In article <93021.123522NMR103@psuvm.psu.edu> <NMR103@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.091835.12426@fuug.fi>, an2531@anon.penet.fi (/dev/high)
>>
>>#   on the topic of synergy, I'd like to add a question, what other
>>definitely not as good as hemp by itself. But he does REALLY enjoy
>>taking about 4 or 5 ephedrines at one time (that hair tingling
>>feeling).
>>
>
>WATCH OUT WITH THE EPHEDRINE. Some of my friends enjoyed doing the 4-
>or-5 ephedrine thing until they heard of somebody who, after doing this
>three or four different times, experienced lung collapse - not pleasant.
>
>I think there are definite dangers to doing ephedrine in large amounts
>(esp. when you have high blood pressure or thyroid disease -
>if anybody has any info on dangers of ephedrine, please post.
>
>

Hum.. would be news to most of the medical field.  ephedrine is not known to    
cause more then heartattacs at high doses.. <that is the local opinion out here> 
I know i have taken up to 7 ephedrine tablits in a period of a cupple of hours.. I dont think i will do it again, i felt both energetic and sleepy, <then i knew i was close to overdose>  
   I have a bad knee problem, i have found the ephedrene helps give me the energy to ignore the pain.. for a while.. 
 
Adric@cs.lanl.gov
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: [alt.drugs] Weekly Postin
Date: 23 Jan 93 21:03:00 GMT
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From: hagerp@cs.indiana.edu (Paul Hager)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Mary Jane, Tobacco, & cigarettes (was FUCK NICOTINE)
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:34:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University

A quibble -- the stated half-life of Po210 in the article was
just over 20 years.  According to "Chart of the Nuclides" published
by Knolls Atomic Power Laboratory, the half-life of Po210 is
138.38 days.  I should also point out the Po210 throws out so
many alphas that Polonium metal samples are bathed in the blue
glow of Cerenkov radiation even when sitting in ambient air.
Po210 is in the last part of the decay chain from U238 that ends
with: Pb210 -> beta -> Bi210 -> beta -> Po210 -> alpha -> Pb206.

-- 
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From: shaw@toadflax.UCDavis.EDU (Rob Shaw)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: CA Civil Forfeiture Renewal
Date: 24 Jan 93 23:21:31 GMT
Reply-To: shaw@toadflax.UCDavis.EDU (Rob Shaw)
Organization: UC Davis, EECS Division of Computer Science

In California, civil forfeiture laws expire at the end of
this year, but State Assembly Bill 53 is a renewal for 4 (?)
more years.

This bill must *die* 

There was an article in the Sac Bee about abuses of these laws,
but Dan Lungren, our state Attorney General, has said that they
are great for the budget problems, and he hopes to bring CA laws
more in line with Federal laws. He was referring to the fact that
in CA, the State has to show your house/car is connected to drug
money before they can take it; according to the article, the
federal laws place the burden on you to prove your property is 
clean.
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From: jjj@mits.mdata.fi (Joni Jarvenkyla)
Subject: Re: Exotic Places...
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:30:12 GMT


In Morocco I encountered the most rude attempts to invade my lodge room.
Luckily I had barred the door with my bed, like I always do when
sleeping in more than a little strange places. However this was in
Tangier and in the summer, which can be a synonym for "hell".

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From: andersom@spot.Colorado.EDU (Marc Anderson)
Subject: Re: What happened to Bob Cain?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:54:43 GMT

In article <22JAN199310425557@zeus.tamu.edu> plg3723@zeus.tamu.edu (Hello there) writes:
>Several months ago, I read this newsgroup every day and regularly saw 80-
>100 new posts a day.  Now, I  only see 20-30 new posts a day and see none
>from Bob Cain, who used to have comments on almost everything discussed here.
>What happened to this man?

And what about Paul Hagar?

-marc
andersom@spot.colorado.edu


Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: rsteiger@denver.cba.du.edu
Subject: marijuana paper
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 23:35:19 GMT


Just received a small sample of hemp paper from Tree Free EcoPaper, and I  
must say that I am impressed. It's a damn shame that an idea this good is  
going to ruin the U.S. when it comes to paper manufacturing, but then  
again wood manufacturers will destroy a lot more before they get the  
hint...

the only thing is that it is a little thin in content, but I believe that  
is because of the particular samples that they sent. 
by the way, does anybody have a good recepie for P brownies?  A little  
office treat to get through the week......





.............................	Todd_Steigerwald@denver.cba.du.edu
From: camper@buphy.bu.edu (Dan English)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: rush-amyl nitrate
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:07:52 GMT
Distribution: alt.drugs
 
   -camper.


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From: loweaa@g222-03.Rose-Hulman.Edu. (Anthony A Lowe)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Caffine Depressant?(Thanks)
Date: 24 Jan 1993 01:47:29 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
NNTP-Posting-Host: g222-03.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <C19IJw.8Kn@wm.estec.esa.nl> joleary@estwm0.dnet.estec.esa.nl  
(John O'Leary) writes:
> Why does alcohol, in moderate amounts, act as a stimulant for many  
people?

I just wanted to say thanks to the others who answered already because you  
all are dead on!
From: panissec@nms.otca.oz.au (Colin Panisset)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Caffeine Depressant ?
Date: 22 Jan 93 01:36:30 GMT

Bill_Chiles@transarc.com writes:

[ ... ]
}Okay, here's the question.  I'm pretty sure that disregarding other
}variables, 1/3 to 1/2 the time the second cup of coffee puts me right to
}sleep.  I mean literally, I have to take a nap in my office for about 30
}minutes.  Does anyone know of any study backing these observations?  Of
}course, we all know the power and lack thereof of perceptions.  I could be
}wrong, but I'm pretty sure the coffee is knocking me out however
}inconsistently.

I don't know of studies, but I can vouch for the fact that caffiene can have
a depressant effect -- to wit, I used to be a heavy coffee drinker (I consider
six to seven cups of double-and-a-half strength instant a day to be quite
heavy) -- I'd find that near the end of a day I was getting quite "bummed
out" after a cup. I'd almost go completely switch-off for a half an hour
or so, and I'd be almost useless for anything requiring rapid thought. Of
course, there may be other reasons for this related to high caffiene levels --
this is evidently different from the amounts you're experiencing. 

I stopped drinking coffee (except socially) a few months ago -- I drink
tea instead, and I find that I can think again... *all* the time, now!
 
--

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From: jeckenbe@gluttony.reed.edu (Judah Michael Eckenberg)
Subject: Re: FedEx and UPS
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:49:55 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.101907.10427@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>  
kisaacso@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kevin "Zonker" Isaacson) writes:
> In article <1993Jan26.045458.21942@fuug.fi>, an2509@anon.penet.fi would  
have us believe:
> [] I know it's a really bad idea to send drugs through the US mail, but  
how
> [] about Federal Express and United Postal Service?  I was thinking that  
if you
> [] send it overnight via FedEx, first it probably doesn't spend enough  
time in
> [] their posession that it would be economical for them to check it and  
second,
> [] being a private company, why would they have drug dogs at all (unless  
they
> [] were required to by law).  But I thought I'd ask here because it's  
better
> [] to be safe than sorry.  Any comments would be appreciated.
> [] 
> [] 
> 
> I can't speak for FedEx, but as a UPS employee (sorter) I can tell you
> that the amount of checking that occurs, at least for regular ground
> shipments, is absolute zero.  Your package goes from the UPS shipper,
> to a UPS hub, onto a truck to another hub, onto the cute little brown
> van from there, and to the addressee's house.  We process
> approximately 150,000 pieces of mail each night on my shift alone and
> trust me, the only thing that anybody notices is the address.  Unless  
your 
> package has OBVIOUS signs of something illegal (like reeking of skunk  
bud or 
> seeds falling out the cracks) it should encounter no problems.   
Important
> safety tip, though:  Make SURE that it is well packed with NO chance
> of opening even a little bit during shipment.  We are required to
> ensure that every package reaches its destination sealed up nice and
> tight and if a package comes through that is torn open even a little
> bit it is sent to the damage clerk who then repackages it (with the
> obvious implications).  Note that this process is only for ground
> shipments, I can't speak for the air operations.  

	Does anyone out there know the procedures involved in  
international mailing via a private carrier?


	Judah Eckenberg				any opinions expressed
	Reed College	jeckenbe@reed.edu	here are right.
	
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From: an7462@anon.penet.fi (The Duplicator)
Subject: Fluoxetine Hydrochloride
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: alt.drugs
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:26:06 GMT

X-Anon-To: alt.drugs

Does anyone know anything about this drug?  Someone very close to me is using
it on a regular basis, under Dr. supervision, for the treatment of Obsessive
Compulsive Disorder.
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From: mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Michael J Maryo (U))
Subject: Re: Seed Starting Problems
Organization: Univ. of Dayton, School of Engineering
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 06:34:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.063528.16779@fuug.fi> an2509@anon.penet.fi writes:
>I've tried to start cannabis seeds several times, using the suggestions
>offered in alt.drugs (germinate between wet paper towels, keep them warm, etc.).
>I've gotten about 5 or 6 seeds to the point where the shell of the seed opens
>and a small white shoot pushes out of the crack.  But the seeds seem to dies
>upon transplanting to soil.  Is it probably just a bad batch of seeds (all of
>them came from the same 1/4 ounce of brownish pot) or are there some subtleties
>I'm missing?
>
>Thanks
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------

	Well.... It seems as if you are having a bit of a problem, huh? :-)
I actually tried to grow it when I lived at home but was unsuccessful.  I 
tried the same methods and had absoluetly no luck.  I posted a couple of
questions earlier about growing MJ.  I gave the rest of my seeds to a FOAF
who was going to attempt to grow it.  He seems to have a nice group of plants
growing, from what I was told.  Let me give you a few suggestions and you can
E-Mail me if you want specifics.

1) Go out and buy normal potting soil, and maybe some cactus soil also.
2) Wherever you have the plants(like a closet) put tin foil EVERYWHERE so 
   that light is reflected everywhere and only absorbed by the plants.
3) Use a LOT of lighting, mainly Florescent (a FOAF uses a couple incandescent
   also for a little variety)
4) Keep those suckers WARM, and moist, and don't plant the seeds too deep.
5) Water them every day, preferably 2 times a day when you first start.

DONT:
1) let the plants get too hot or cold
2) Don't let the plants or the soil dry out
    
This is my suggestion to all the growers out there.  I don't have the space
to grow my own or I probably would, plus living in a dorm also doesn't 
exactly make it easy to get away with.  A FOAF is doing it in a townhouse
in a closet, and I think is having good luck.  (we will see in a few months)

I guess the amount of people that are growing it themselves seems to be growing
and growing.  Pot is expensive nowadays, and that is the only safe way to do
it anymore!  Good luck to all the people with "green thumbs" out there!
 


Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: andersom@spot.Colorado.EDU (Marc Anderson)
Subject: Re: Drug Laws...
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:32:11 GMT

In article <16B62F1C6.C599143@mizzou1.missouri.edu> C599143@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Matthew Q Keeler de la Mancha) writes:
>>hell..I geuss there SHOULD be a difference in sentences for someone with a
>>HUNDRED hits compared to one, but thenagain someone could have a 5 hit sugar
>>cube of acid, and get more time then someone with 100 hits on
>>paper...hmm...isn't our legal system fucked..
> 
>You know, if I ever get real bored and feel like throwing in the towell
>and spending the rest of my life in jail, I think I'll just put a hit of
>acid on a bowling ball and walk into the police station and say "here you
>go boys... the bust of a lifetime!"

I could see it now:  the media reporting someone got arrested with 
**5 POUNDS** of LSD, the largest amount seized in that part of the country
yet.  With the news-article they would show a picture of this bowling ball 
"filled" with LSD, and maybe a picture of your house and all your property
getting seized.

jeeze, this fucking idiocy has gotta stop.  

-marc
andersom@spot.colorado.edu
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From: SuperDave <a@a>
Subject: Re: FedEx and UPS
X-Xxdate: Wed, 27 Jan 93 18:58:50 GMT
Organization: Vanderbilt University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:58:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.045458.21942@fuug.fi> , an2509@anon.penet.fi writes:
>I know it's a really bad idea to send drugs through the US mail, but how
>about Federal Express and United Postal Service?  I was thinking that if
you
>send it overnight via FedEx, first it probably doesn't spend enough time
in
>their posession that it would be economical for them to check it and
second,
>being a private company, why would they have drug dogs at all (unless
they
>were required to by law).  But I thought I'd ask here because it's better
>to be safe than sorry.  Any comments would be appreciated.

I am fairly familiar with the FedEx process.   As far as I can tell they
do no checking for drugs.  The hub in Atlanta processes over 1 million
packages a night, so they have no time.  I think you should be safe, but
be sure to wrap it well.

By the way, if anyone knows about FexEx's drug testing policy, I would
appreciate any and all information.  Thanks.

SuperDave
From: loki.trickster@digund.uucp (Loki Trickster) 
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: OK, it time to put yo
Date: 23 Jan 93 20:33:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Digital Underground - PRIVATE
Reply-To: loki.trickster@digund.uucp (Loki Trickster) 

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If you can't bitch ... DON'T VOTE!!!

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From: an2509@anon.penet.fi
Subject: FedEx and UPS
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: alt.drugs
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:46:01 GMT

I know it's a really bad idea to send drugs through the US mail, but how
about Federal Express and United Postal Service?  I was thinking that if you
send it overnight via FedEx, first it probably doesn't spend enough time in
their posession that it would be economical for them to check it and second,
being a private company, why would they have drug dogs at all (unless they
were required to by law).  But I thought I'd ask here because it's better
to be safe than sorry.  Any comments would be appreciated.


Thanks
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From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Narcotics Anonymous = a cult?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
    <1joi5bINN25r@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:13:07 GMT

In article <1joi5bINN25r@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>, kkruse@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Korey J. Kruse) writes:
>As a sidenote I find it amusing that people are often forced to attend
>AA or NA by judges when I remember distinctly hearing 50-100 times
>every session that "nobody can help an alcoholic that does not want to
>help themselves."    What do they do with these people that don't want
>to be there, but are forced by others to attend ?

They refuse to cooperate with the legal system.  Sure, they will sign your
slip, but they will not provide the governent with a list of authorized
list-signers (it's supposed to be *anonymous*!).  So the judge can order you
to attend meetings, but he won't know whether the AA/NA people signed it or
you found out the places and times (from the AA _Where & When_) and had
your drinking buddies make up a bunch of names.

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
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