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From: odonovan@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Chris ODonovan)
Subject: Re: Printing to a Unix Host
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: McMaster University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:37:07 GMT

In article <C0qoLE.M54@gabriel.keele.ac.uk>, jonathan@gabriel.keele.ac.uk
(Jonathan Knight) wrote:
> 
> I am not a Mac user but I am a computing officer who has been given this
> task.  I need to get a Mac to print on a printer connected to a Unix host
> which is using the Berkely protocols.  Here's the hardware and software
> specification:

Intercon sells such a product. Here is their description:

|INTERPRINT:
|
|Bringing Macintosh users the ability to print to a Unix PostScript printer

|anywhere on a network, InterCon introduces Interprint*, the industry's 
|first commercial implementation of an LPR (Line Printer Resource) client  
|for the Apple Macintosh.  
|
|Interprint functions as a Chooser application, and allows users to access 

|any LPR postscript printer on an ethernet network. 

If you send email to info@intercon.com they'll send you more info. They
want a hundred odd dollars per Mac, which seems a bit steep for a Chooser
extension.

Another option, which may be better for your purposes is CAP (Columbia
Appletalk Extensions). These are installed on the UNIX machine and enable
it to speak Appletalk. The price is pretty good (free) and it's availiable
via FTP.

I have the only Mac in the department so I can hardly ask that they be
installed just for me, which is why I looked into Interprint.

If anyone has any other single Mac solutions to printing on UNIX (i.e.
TCP/IP) printers I would like to know about them.

TAI,

Chris ODonovan

odonovan@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca
From: Chuck.Scott@f20.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Chuck Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: ZYXEL MODEMS??????
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 03:13:11 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3603/20 - Mercury Opus NEC360, St Petersburg FL

Anyone nave any good or bad experinces with the ZyXEL modems? I am
interested in buying a high speed modem in the near future and am
interested in getting input about ZyXEL or other modems.

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From: haase@meediv.lanl.gov (Peter Haase)
Subject: Re: Looking for Terminal Emulators
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:16:29 GMT

In article <jgladu-110193083427@128.249.27.63>, jgladu@bcm.tmc.edu (grungy
(John F. Gladu)) wrote:
> 
> I'm evaluating vt320 and vt420 terminal emulators for Macs.
> 
> I've tried PacerTerm already, I'm waiting for InterCon's latest release and
> "5pm" is allegedly on the way.
> 
> Does anyone know of any others?
> 

Yes....There is a Package from "White Pines Software" which I believe has
at least a 320 and perhaps a 420 emulator.....Sorry I do not have there #.



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"The opinions expressed in this message are my own and do not necessarily
 reflect those of Los Alamos National Laboratory"
From: yaosenko@acsu.buffalo.edu (Yaosen Ko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: bulletin board software?
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:30:20 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1993Jan8.151342.18184@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> odonovan@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Chris O'Donovan) writes:
>
>I think that the best Mac BBS system is FirstClass. It has
>an Internet mail gateway, Usenet news, works on any Mac
>with a modem and over Appletalk, conferencing and lots
>more stuff.
>

Some time ago there was a post asking for FirstClass off-line
mail reader, something called "BulkRate". Ever heard of it?
Where to get it?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Jamey Maze <jnm@ornl.gov>
Subject: MacTCP problems on slow links?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A76F0CE1F9028039@baloo.ctd.ornl.gov>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 5 Jan 93 10: 01:05 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:01:16 GMT

I've setup a SLIP/PPP server using MST's software and several folks here
have been using it for a few months mostly from Macs running VersaTerm
SLIP. When doing file transfers, we periodically notice some pauses on
the order of 5 to say 20 seconds. When this happens, I don't see any
framing errors from the server, so I suspect the pauses are caused by
either:

1) Modem-to-modem data compression or error correction. (One user tells
me the pauses are more noticeable when transferring text over binary
data. The text files would naturally compress better.)

2) TCP-level flow control issues. I do see a fair number of retransmits.

I'm about to do some packet-level analysis to see what's happening from a
TCP point of view. Yesterday, I read where someone said "MacTCP 1.1 and
1.1.1 both have problems with slow links, but 1.1.1's are less severe."
(I'm using 1.1.1.) This person did not elaborate further, so I thought
I'd ask here to see if someone already understands (and can give an
explanation) of these problems. 

Thanks!

Jamey Maze
Oak Ridge National Lab
From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David GUtierrez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Abaton InterFAX software support for Macintosh Quadra 700
Date: 11 Jan 1993 06:57:24 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

In article <1ilps2INNjs9@news.cerf.net> xontech@cerf.net (Bruce B. Lacey)
writes:
>I bought an Abaton InterFAX 24/96 modem back when Mac User, Mac World, 
>and MacWeek were all raving over it.  A couple of years ago I was happy 
>with it until I upgraded to System 7 and then had to wait over 6 months 
>for an upgrade to the InterFAX software that would run under system 7.0.  
>About 5 months ago I bought a Quadra 700 only to find out that I could no 
>longer FAX. :-{  Does anyone know the status on Abaton's (a division of 
>Everex) position on the software.  I have tried to call their technical 
>support line just to be put on hold for over a half hour.

Probably the same as their position on their MultiTalk serial-sharing device a
couple of years back - "Tough shit, buddy." Actually, they said they'd heard
there were problems, but they had no plans to address them.

I wouldn't have anything to do with Abaton/Everex.

David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: oppedahl@panix.com (Carl Oppedahl)
Subject: Re: Need help selecting modem software
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:01:10 GMT

In <29222@oasys.dt.navy.mil> 2712s@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Jennifer Murnane) writes:

>    Help!  I am an owner of a SupraFaxModem V.32bis 14,400 and now
>I need fax software to work with the modem.  I called MacWarehouse
>and they suggested the "White Nite Software" or "SmartCom".  I
>contacted Supra and they suggested FaxSFT.  With all these suggest-
>tions I don't know what to get.  I just want the capability to
>fax from my MacIntosh II to other fax machines and receive faxes
>in my machine.  I should note that I am more familiar with IBM
>systems than Mac systems so you can see my confusion.  Do I need
>to by a fax card?  Help, what do I do next.

Sorry to make what may seem like a condescending remark, but most
fax modems I have seen in recent months come with fax software
in the same box as the modem.  So ... have you gone carefully 
through your modem materials to see if there is any fax software
there?

Or maybe this is your problem ... the modem comes with MS-DOS
fax software, but not Macintosh fax software.  In that case, 
FaxSTF would probably be a good choice.  I'm not familiar with your
modem model but I assume it follows standard Class II commands, in
which case all the standard fax software packages for Macs should
work fine.

Good luck.

-- 
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30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY  10112-0228
voice 212-408-2578     fax 212-765-2519
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: steff@ims.uni-stuttgart.de (Stefan Momma)
Subject: Anybody running ZTerm 0.9 on a Duo 230 successfully ?
Reply-To: steff@ims.uni-stuttgart.de
Organization: IMS, University of Stuttgart, Germany
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:48:31 GMT



Subject says it all.

If you run it successfully, I'd like to hear what your experiences
are. Which modem type you use, would be especially interesting to me,
since I will have several options available (a GVC 9600, or a Zyxel
U-1496e, among others)

Responses either here, or via email. If there's interest, I'll
summarize. 

Thanks bunches,

-- stefan momma
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: anon <anon@edu>
Subject: Global Village Internet Address??
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A77701F21401401E@jpinkelman.aero.nd.edu>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 11 Jan 93 10:52:34 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:38:23 GMT

I am interested in obtaining an Internet Address for
Global Village technical support or customer service.
Please send it to me if you know it??

Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Mail to cpmpuServe.
From: t303grey@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 5 Jan 93 12:20:22 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

  Is it possible to mail to CompuServe Address from internet?

  If it is how?

  Thanks in advance.

                                                DevilCat
                                                t303grey@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
From: yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: NewsWatcher and system 7.
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:46:42 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory


	I have a mac which used to have NewsWatcher running
	successfully.  All of a sudden it broke.

	We re-installed stuff up the kazooo.

	Seems that it will only connect to the server if I
	re-install sys 6.08  operating system.

	It won't connect on system 7.

	Anyone else have any prpoblem like this?

-- 
	Alan Yasutovich
	"inquiring  (and nosey) minds WANT TO KNOW!!!"
	I can remember when "safe sex" meant having a padded headboard!!
	Tick Tock.....Tick Tock......Tick Tock .....Tick Tock......
From: chandler@wc.novell.com (Mark Chandler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Mail to cpmpuServe.
Date: 5 Jan 93 18:49:56 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc. - Walnut Creek

In article <1993Jan5.122022.1@vax1.mankato.msus.edu> t303grey@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes:
>  Is it possible to mail to CompuServe Address from internet?
>
>  If it is how?

The format is xxxxx.xxxx@compuserve.com

The comma in the CompuServe address gets changed to a period
and you append @compuserve.com to the end.

>  Thanks in advance.
>
>                                                DevilCat
>                                                t303grey@vax1.mankato.msus.edu


--
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chandler@wc.novell.com     Walnut Creek, CA     AOL: Crosswords
===============================================================
   The opinions expressed above are mine, not my employer's.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: alen@crash.cts.com (Alen Shapiro)
Subject: Changing mac PPP dial timeout (hack solution)
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 4 Jan 93 03:53:10 GMT
Summary: Here's one way to connect to long-protocol modems
Keywords: PPP internet modem dial timeout

Just got mac PPP from sumex (infomac) and tried to dial in to my
Internet host. They use trailblazers and I do not. The extended
protocol negotiations (tone dueling) was causing the PPP dialer
to timeout (only 30 secs is allowed). I changed (in the resedit hex
editor)
	a975703cc1ee0010 to
	a9757078c1ee0010
	      ^^
In the PPP extension and doubled the timeout from 30 secs to a
minute. There may have been an easier way (it looks like a timeout
variable is referenced) but I had no manuals and the doc that was
distributed with the product did not address this issue.

Perhaps the authors would like to add this control to the PPP admin
cdev?

--alen...trying to turn a Sparc into a Flame
alen@crash.cts.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: dbailey@cix.compulink.co.uk (Diane Bailey)
Subject: MacIntercomm ?
Reply-To: dbailey@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:36:00 +0000


According to the caption in the Dr Mac ad in the January US
MacWorld, MacIntercomm is a new product which is "the only
telecommunications program with true multitasking that offers
completely invisible file transfers no matter what else you do on
your Mac.  A scripting language of unprecedented power with
automated script recorder automates even the most complex tasks."
Price $118.

Has anyone tried this product, or seen a competent revue?

Just wondering if it might fit my bill for something that would
handle receipt of text files from assorted newspaper contributors
using various hardware, completely in the background (ie
invisibly) on a cheap Mac not running System 7, and place them in
a Public Folder...

Diane
dbailey@cix.compulink.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: cole@nepenthe.unx.sas.com (Tom Cole)
Subject: Re: Zoom v.32 ARA=Hangup!
Originator: cole@nepenthe.unx.sas.com
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:51:23 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <1992Dec23.133208.3071@vitro.com>, mzwick@vitro.com (Morris J. Zwick) writes:
|> ARA seems simple enough, but this one has me stumped!
|>
|> We have two IIcis, one each at two different sites. Both machines have Zoom
|> v.32bis modems and ARA. I downloaded the ARA scripts from the info-mac archives
|> (since the Zoom modem's scripts were not bundled with ARA). When we attempt a
|> connection, the host modem answers, then hangs up! The ARA status dialog never
|> flinches from "Awaiting incoming call" (or some similar message). I've checked
|> that guest access via ARA is enabled on the server. Still, no dice.
|>
|> Any thoughts?? Thanks in advance!
|>

For what it's worth, I have just such a modem, and "lied" to ARA and
told it I was using the Practical Peripherals 9600SA modem, and it 
worked fine, connecting at 9600 baud as I expected.  I may be confused
about which Zoom modem you have, however; mine supports a maximum
physical speed of 9600 baud, not the zippier 14.4k flavor...

Hope this helps...


-- 
Tom Cole, SAS Institute Inc. VMS R&D  cole@nepenthe.unx.sas.com
From: eileen@bcvms.bc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: MacTCP/Domain Name server question
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:36:40 GMT
Organization: Boston College

I need some info about how MacTCP uses the Domain Name Server info in it's
configuration.

We have a primary and a secondary name server at our site. We have
instructed MacTCP users to enter both in the "Domain Name Server
Information" portion of the MacTCP configuration window. Both are entered
with a domain of bc.edu, and the primary name server is marked as the
default. This worked fine until recently, when our primary name server was
temporarily unavailable. It turned out that MacTCP would only send DNS
queries to the secondary name server if the supplied node name was in the
bc.edu domain. For nodes outside our domain, it would continue to try to
query the primary name server, despite the fact that the primary was
sending back packets saying that the port was unreachable (we captured the
dialogue with a sniffer). It never asked the secondary at all. If we tried
to connect to a machine in our domain, MacTCP would ask the primary once,
get the 'port unreachable' message (the node was booted to single user
mode), and then ask the secondary. This led to the unfortunate situation
where users could not connect to any nodes outside our domain. 

Making the secondary name server the default under MacTCP took care of the 
problem, but this is not an acceptable solution. What is the correct 
behaviour, and is there any way to get MacTCP to recognize a secondary name 
server that it will use to resolve all names?

Eileen Shepard
Systems Programmer, Boston College
Eileen@bc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: fri0@quads.uchicago.edu (Christian Fritze)
Subject: LineShare script for AR/Supra FaxModem?
Reply-To: fri0@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:06:00 GMT

Would someone send me a script for using a Supra Fax/Modem and ARA
with LineShare? The program includes directions for writing your own
scripts, but I'm sure it'd take days for me to get it right.
-- 
Christian E. Fritze                   |                            AOL:geneman
University of Chicago                 |               fri0@midway.uchicago.edu
Molecular Genetics and Cell Biology   |   "No one ever died of laughing" -M.B.
--
From: noah@apple.com (Noah Price)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: bulletin board software?
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:32:07 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: (not the opinions of) Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1993Jan8.151342.18184@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>, Chris O'Donovan
<odonovan@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca> wrote:
> 
> In article <C0IExH.JEq@plato.ds.boeing.com> Kevin
> housen/.na, housen@plato.ds.boeing.com writes:
> >Are there any low-cost or PD bulletin board systems
> >available for the Mac?  Also, what's needed in terms
> >of hardware?
> 
> I think that the best Mac BBS system is FirstClass.

First Class is indeed great, but it is by no means PD or low-cost :-)

Are there any other suggestions?  I understand someone was working on a
good mac based BBS but lost the author's name and the details...

Someone was asking about BulkRate -- I've seen it on just about every
FirstClass BBS I've been on, so it shouldn't be hard to find once you get
on the BBS.

noah

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
noah@apple.com                                 Macintosh Hardware Design
...!{sun,decwrl}!apple!noah   (not the opinions of) Apple Computer, Inc.
From: olsenm@ucs.orst.edu (Monte Olsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: HELP, Can't unbinhex telnetted files
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:56:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: gaia.1iktanINNm1d
Distribution: world
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: rostb-mac.ads.orst.edu
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
X-XXMessage-ID: <A77339A5F501A710@rostb-mac.ads.orst.edu>
X-XXDate: Fri, 8 Jan 93 22:01:09 GMT

Hi everyone,

I'm having a problem, to whit:

I call the area university VAX where I have an account.

I telnet to Sumex or another FTP site and "get" a file, which is then
stored
on the university's VAX machine.

I try to kermit the file to my home computer. The transfer appears to go
OK.

I startup Binhex 4.0 and try to unbinhex the file. 

The program returns a CRC 000000 error or something like that. 

It's driving me nuts. 

Is there something I'm doing wrong (obviously)? If so, do any of you
gurus 
out there have an answer. I'd be happy to share it with others if one
comes
through.

Thanks in advance,


Monte Olsen
From: jbasara@ssdc.UUCP (Jim Basara)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Sources for SupraFAXModem
Date: 4 Jan 93 14:39:01 GMT
Organization: Sterling Software IMD, Vienna, Va.

I am looking for a mail-order source to buy a SupraFAXModem.  Please send
me some suggestions.

thanks,

--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff)
Subject: Zoom Send-Only QuickLinkII Fax Software
Organization: BeHereNow
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:36:43 GMT



If you have a Zoom 24/9600 send only modem, or any Zoom Send-only
FAX modem, please drop me a line... 

I PROMISE to make it worth your while if I can.

Jeff-

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: dtomack@mv.us.adobe.com (Darin Tomack)
Subject: Looking for 14.4 Modem Suggestions
Keywords: Help
Reply-To: dtomack
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:03:09 GMT

I know, I know.  There are several documents that talk about this.  I've read  
them.  I want to know from the people out there what they think of the various  
high speed modems available for the mac.  So far I have heard that Zyxel is  
good.  I know nothing else about them including the price range I'm looking at  
for that modem.  In addition I've been considering the SupraFAXmodem V.32bis  
and the Global Village Teleport Gold (the main reason for considering the  
latter is that they are offering a very attractive incentive program to me  
since I currently own one of their "lesser" modems).  Anyone care to share  
their experiences with any of the above?  Anyone care to throw in some more  
modems/manufacturers to further confuse and confound me?  ;-)

Mainly I am interested in the following (who wouldn't be?) price vs.  
performance vs. features.  I'd be interested in those who are particularly  
enthusiastic about their particular modem to expound about the feature and the  
performance.

That's about it.  To reduce the noise level, and to keep from pissing others  
off, please respond via email.  Once I feel that everyone interested has  
answered I'll be willing to either post a summary or mail summaries to people.   
The latter would probably be decided by the number of people who request  
summaries.

Thanks.  I'm looking forward to getting some good information...

darin

--
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"...And then the alien anthropologists/Admitted they were still perplexed/
But on eliminating every other reason/For our sad demise/They logged the
only explanation left/This species has amused itself to death"     -- Roger  
Waters
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: paul@ace.acadiau.ca (Paul Steele)
Subject: Need Dove FastNET drivers for System 7
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 12:57:59 GMT

I have just upgraded my MacSE/30 to System 7 but now can't get my Dove
FastNET ethernet card to work (Phase 1).  Is there an FTP site or bulletin
board where I can download the latest Dove drivers.  The one I'm using is a 
couple of years old (at least).

___
Paul Steele, Network Services Manager              902-542-2201x660
Acadia University, Computer Centre            FAX: 902-542-4364
Wolfville, Nova Scotia, Canada, B0P 1X0  Internet: Paul.Steele@acadiau.ca
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From: grant@valinor.mythical.com (Mark Grant)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc,news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Internet & America Online: How to email between?
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 18:43:34 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: (What? Organized??) - Mythical Computer Systems

peten@iat.holonet.net (Pete Norton) writes:

> One thing that is not spelled out in the FAQ:
> It is necessary to know the AOL user's screen name and use that as the
> username in the address.
> -- 
Pete,

I can tell you one thing about AOL.  They allow screen names with 2 words 
separated by a space.  Internet doesn't like that.  If you replace the 
space with "." (period), AOL postmaster returns the message.  If you mash 
the screen name together, same thing.

When one selects a screen name, you really need to be careful if you want 
to send Internet E-Mail.


Mark Grant
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