HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: AppleTalk over SLIP? How?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 03:45:09 -0500
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation
NNTP-Posting-Host: intercon.com

maynard@tamar.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley) writes:
>Is it possible to run AppleTalk over SLIP?

No.  SLIP only works with IP.  You *could* run AppleTalk over PPP,
which can handle multiple protocols, but there are no products for
the Mac which can support this yet.


Amanda Walker
InterCon Systems Corporation
From: mccoy@cayman.com (Michael McCoy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: TCP connection via ARA? Possible?
Date: 28 Jan 93 17:56:28 GMT
Reply-To: mccoy@cayman.com (Michael McCoy)
Organization: cayman.com

brian_vickers@isd.jpl.nasa.gov (Brian Vickers) writes:

>I'm trying to connect a remote Macintosh to an EtherNet
>network via an ARA connection. Not that difficult,
>just dial in, right? The problem is that I
>need to run MacTCP applications from the remote Mac.

>Has anyone done this? Is it possible?

You can run MacTCP applications, such as NCSA TELNET, over an ARA 
connection. The trick is to let MacTCP know how to acquire an IP address 
from a MacIP server, such as a GatorBox, on your network. You cannot use 
static MacIP addressing when you are dialing in over an ARA connection if 
the MacIP server's LocalTalk zone name is different from the ARA 
server's zone name.

To set up your remote Mac to dial in:

1. Open the Network Control Panel and select the LocalTalk or Remote 
Only network connection. 

2. Open the MacTCP Control Panel and click the More button. When the 
Administrator dialog box appears, click the Server radio button. Close the 
MacTCP Control Panel and restart your Macintosh.

3. Run Remote Access and dial in to your network.

4. Open the MacTCP Control Panel and select the zone in which your MacIP 
server registers its service. Most AppleTalk routers register their MacIP 
service in the zone for their LocalTalk interface. Close the MacTCP 
Control Panel.

5. Close the ARA connection and restart your Macintosh.

6. Run Remote Access and dial in to your network a second time. You 
should now be able to run MacTCP applications and have your Mac acquire 
its IP address from the MacIP server on your network.

Hope this helps.

Michael McCoy
Cayman Documentation

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From: spielman@ux5.lbl.gov (Steven Spielman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: QuickLink and other Fax Software
Date: 25 Jan 1993 17:12:50 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Reply-To: spielman@ux5.lbl.gov (Steven Spielman)
NNTP-Posting-Host: ux5.lbl.gov

In article <odonovan-120193152756@192.42.5.56> odonovan@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Chris ODonovan) writes:
>
>I have a Zoom 24/96 fax modem which came with QuickLink II. I find it to be
>unreliable and to have an awful user interface. In fact I don't use the fax
>in my fax modem because of this (the software isn't even installed on my
>hard disk).
>
>Does anyone have any info on other products? Do any of their publishers
>have sidegrades?
>
I have a similar modem, Class 1 FAX also with QuickLink II software,
and I must agree with Chris.  Admittedly, I have version 1.0 of the
software, but it does such bizarre things that I'm wary about spending
money on the same company (Smith Micro, I believe).

I have found a pretty reliable set of circumstances (tiptoe thru the
bugs) which can result in successful fax transmission.  People can
email me if they want details.  The chooser option which redirects
printing to be faxed works pretty reliably, actually.  Faxing from
within the application and receiving faxes can be tricky.

So I second Chris's question:  What experiences have people had with
later versions of QL II and other fax software?  Any shareware out
there? 

-steve 
spielman@ux5.lbl.gov



Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: marcbg@feenix.metronet.com (Marc Grant)
Subject: Fax software???
Organization: Texas Metronet Communications Services, Dallas TX
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:51:58 GMT

I've got a Zoom V32.bis, but I don't use the quick-link Fax software
provided with the unit since it is buggy and has a tendency to wreak havoc
on my Mac.  Is there any other Fax software available?  Shareware?  I
don't see any in the MacWarehouse catalog and I didn't see any at CompUSA
when I was there today.  The only fax software available is when you buy a
modem!  I know quick-link has an upgrade but they want to charge me for it
(absurd - the original doesn't work!).
Thanks
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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Phone# 214/530-9488                       Internet: marcbg@feenix.metronet.com
From: edw@distant.uucp (Ed Watkeys)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: AppleTalk Remote Access Protocol Specification Wanted
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 10:43:50 EST
Organization: Distant Software
Reply-To: edw@distant.uucp
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v2

I the ARAP protocol specified in any sort of document that mere mortals
(non Apple Parters or Associates) can get ahold of?

Ed

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: FTP sites ?
From: asripan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Date: 28 Jan 93 16:09:17 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

Are there any FTP sites that I can call from my university?  I want to do more
than e-mail...
Is there also a way to contact my friend from CWRU?  I only know his name :TKim

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: umbaugh@csq.arl.utexas.edu (Dave Umbaugh)
Subject: Re: A premier of FAQ on Macintosh Networking
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Reply-To: umbaugh@cse.uta.edu
Organization: CSE Dept., University of Texas at Arlington, Arlington, TX
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:07:57 GMT

raz>

raz>I'm looking for a premier or FAQ on Macintosh networking.

raz>I'm familiar with a lot of network types but mostly Ethernet
raz>TCP/IP
raz>set ups.  For the first time I'm tackling Mac type networking
raz>and I was wondering if there is a FAQ available on the topic.

There is a FAQ in this newsgroup and it was just posted on 10 Jan
raz>1993.

raz>I have a lot of questions and I need to resolve some of them
raz>quickly.  For example:

raz>What is AppleTalk and how it communicates with printers
raz>and other machines?

AppleTalk is a suite of network protocols for network communications
between Macintosh computers and other AppleTalk devices on the net.

raz>Can AppleTalk and Ethernet coexist on a Mac networking
raz>environment?
raz>How?  What software and hardware required?

Ethernet is a particular family of lowlevel network protocols (in its
broadest sense.)  Ethernet refers to networks using IEEE 802.3
linklevel protocols on XNS linklevel protocols on coaxial cable or
twisted pair.  AppleTalk over an Ethernet medium (coax or twisted pair
or fiber too.) is called EtherTalk.  It coexistst with Ethernet
because Ethernet and EtherTalk both use similar media access control
protocols, CSMA-CD.  Packets addressed to an AppleTalk node are
ignored by non AppleTalk nodes and vice versa.

raz>How does it work?

that is beyond the scope of this tutorial.

raz>Can an Apple Laser printer be on the Ethernet network or does it
raz>have to be on the AppleTalk network?

If it has an EtherTalk interface like the Apple LaserWriter IIG it can
be.  Otherwise it will be on a LocalTalk network.  For EtherTalk Macs
to communicate with devices in LocalTalk zones a bridge must be
provided between the two networks.  Examples of such bridges include
Macintosh computers running Apple Internet Router, GatorBoxes, Shiva
FastPaths, Dayna Etherprint boxes, and the like.

raz>Etc, etc.

raz>If anyone knows of a file or FAQ to can help answer some of this
raz>questions could you please mail it to me.

I saved some or all of the last FAQ.  If you would like me to mail it,
reply by email.

raz>Thanks in advance!
--
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University of Texas at Arlington    <B652LDU@UTARLG>  BITNET
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From: Simon.John-charles@f1003.n130.z1.ieee.org (Simon John-charles)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: ULTIMA HOME OFFICE & Z-Term
Date: 21 Jan 93 23:44:58 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:130/1003 - Mac Exchange, Fort Worth TX

I have a Ultima Home Office and Z-term.  The darn thing arbitrarily hangs
up while trying to dial.  For those who use Zterm and have Z-modem up load 
problem set WINDOW LIMIT under z-modem options to 2048.
 
Anyway help me with any other settings that might need to be changed.
 
P.S. I have the HARDWARE HANDSHAKE set to ON.

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From: sinkovics@wu-wien.ac.at (Rudolf R. Sinkovics)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: PSI POWERMODEM IV INITIALIZATION STRING ?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 09:42:09 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Can anybody tell me the best initialization string for a PSI Powermodem IV ?
I want to set up a terminal connection and a slip connection.
Currently I am using:
ATE1V1

but I am not really sure whether this is a good thing.

Thanks for response


-Rudolf

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From: todd@crayola (Todd Katz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: ARQ question
Keywords: modem Prometheus
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:57:48 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

I have a Prometheus high-speed fax modem that seems to work ok in most  
situations but it cannot connect to CompuServe or GEnie at 2400 baud or  
1200 baud. When I dial in with White Knight I get:

	CONNECT 2400/ARQ

and then a few garbage characters. 

More omniously, when I type:

	AT&T

I get back:

	ERROR

Any suggestions would be most welcome and thanks in advance.

EOT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: wang_dj@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu (David J. Wang)
Subject: emacs and MacLayers
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:26:33 GMT


I seem to be experiencing a problem using emacs and MacLayers (in layers mode).
The problem occurs when I try to save ( C-x C-s).  My computer just hangs, and
the only way to escape is by  a hardware break.  Has anyone else had this 
problem.  I am using MacLayers 1.20, and the latest version of emacs.  This
problem only occurs when I am in layers mode.                            

Also, it seems to me that Maclayers, even with a single layer, communicates at
a slower rate.  I have a terminal connection from my dorm room to the 
mainframe, which operates at 19,200 baud.  When I use smartcom, the difference
between 9600 baud and 19200 is very noticble.  When I use MacLayers, though,
I seem to still be operating at 9600 baud.  Any comments?

Thanks.
-- 
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From: v065hjku@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jason Osborne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: v.42bis and MNP-5 problems..., need advice & Help
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:14:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I have been mucking around with a 2400 baud modem w/v.42bis and MNP-5 etc.
I do not know much about these creatures, so I enabled both MNP-5 w/
compression and v.42bis.  The transfer humms along for a few seconds, and
gets up to @ 120% efficiency (meaning the compression is kicking in a little)
and then I start getting CRC errors!  And they knock the effcicncy down to
@60%!  Is this common?  Am I doing something wrong?  What's the
point of MNP-5 and v.42bis if they slow the modem down to half!

BTW- I have been using a 1200 baud modem which NEVER gets CRC errors, so I
know it's not a faulty connection.  ANY HELP AND OR ADVICE APPRECIATED!


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Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.comm:13493 comp.sys.mac.misc:22386
From: kdb@intercon.com (Kurt Baumann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: uAccess 1.62
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:18:18 -0500
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation
Distribution: world
Reply-To: kdb@intercon.com (Kurt Baumann)
NNTP-Posting-Host: mini-macaw.intercon.com
X-Newsreader: InterCon TCP/Connect II 1.1b35

In article <TRSNYDER.93Jan22074220@vf0031.mcs.drexel.edu>, 
trsnyder@mcs.drexel.edu (Bob Snyder) writes:
> But the price seems *real* high, considering the main market I see for 
> this product:  computer hobbyists and small businesses.  (I may have 
> the market wrong; you'd be in a better position than I to say who 
> purchases uAccess.) 
> 

Just as an aside.  We did not change the price either up or down.  I am more 
than happy to hear anyones comments on what they think a price would be.  
Please send it as mail, though. :-)
From: mercuryb@cerf.net (Steve Shannon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: ProLine BBS?
Date: 29 Jan 93 01:14:15 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Mercury Systems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 134.24.3.123

I found this on a couple of bbs's...

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Feel free to paste this post on other systems, to let others become aware
of the following:

Proline BBS Update:
01/26/93

Due to circumstances beyond our control,  the Proline BBS project has been
terminated, and is no longer in production.

The Proline support board and support for Proline is no longer available.

Since we do not have access to all systems that may have Proline
available to their users for download, we encourage all sysops to remove
their
copy of Proline from their system.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
           _____
          / o o \
::::::::OOO::U::OOO:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
::      Steve Shannon       ::  I can't understand why a company will take 
::
::   Mercury Systems, Inc.  :: a year or two to write a decent comm package
::
::     mercuryb@cerf.net    ::     when he can easily buy MacIntercomm!    
::
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
          \_/ \_/
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.comm:13250 comp.sys.mac.misc:22098
From: trsnyder@mcs.drexel.edu (Bob Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: uAccess 1.62
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:21:35 GMT
Organization: ASCI

>>>>> "eagle" == eagle  <eagle@silver.lcs.mit.edu> writes:


eagle> Can I get some feedback about uAccess 1.62, the UUCP program...

eagle> WHere did you buy it?
eagle> How much did it cost?
eagle> Are you satisfied with it?
eagle> Are you satisfied with UUCP?
eagle> What is a good place to link up through?

Apparently, ICE Engineering has sold the marketing rights to Interconn.
This is based on a call to ICE, and then a call to Interconn.  ICE will
continue to develop it, though.

Interconn is changing the name of it (UUCP Access or something similar).
Cost is $395 for the server, and $295 for clients, which can read mail/news
downloaded by the server over the network.

(I was interested in the product; now I'm not.  If I'm going to spend $400
for UUCP, I'll save up a little more, and get MachTen or A/UX, and do real
UUCP, with real news/mail, etc....)

Bob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Jetinder Singh <jsd@cs.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Ethernet & EtherTalk
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A78C67CC3B01C16E@penelope.cs.bham.ac.uk>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 27 Jan 93 16:24:44 GMT
Organization: Birmingham University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:24:33 GMT

We have just connected a Mac, Quadra 700, onto Ethernet- through the Unix 
newtwork. I was hoping that it would be possible to run Mac applications 
stored on one of our Unix disks over ethernet (instead of Localtalk-where 
it is very slow), but obviously can't, so we are looking to find out how 
you can use EtherTalk over the Unix network. Can anyone help ?
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.comm:13289 comp.sys.sgi.admin:267 comp.sys.sgi.misc:349
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.misc
Subject: Re: NCSA Telnet problems--HELP!
Date: 22 Jan 93 08:28:02 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <Jan21.174306.28926@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> jamison@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (Jamie Gulden) writes:

| In article <matt-210193101157@wardmac2.med.yale.edu> matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu (Matt Healy) writes:
| >We have been having some really *weird* problems with NCSA Telnet
| >2.5 connecting to a Silicon Graphics workstation.  They went away
| >for a couple of months but now they seem to be coming back...
| >
| >1. THE PHYSICAL NETWORK IS ABSOLUTELY OK:
| 
| I could also panic fault an indigo (4.0.5) every time I tried to
| ftp files from a mac.

405F should help the latter problem; there is also a somewhat later
ethernet patch for another problem, but that isn't as general.
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Subject: Re: New Data Line -- UUCP? ARA? Fax???
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 15:38:04 +0300
From: BUTENKO@TWIN.srcc.msu.su
Organization: STALKER Software GmbH

In article <C1GBIG.9x5@news2.cis.umn.edu>
  Bret Oeltjen <oelt0002@student.tc.umn.edu> writes:
> I was thinking of either
> setting UUCP or ARA to answer the phone.
> p.s. sorry, one more question, is it possible to have more than
> one of these as on option, and the computer switch between?
 Install  LineShare  and  you  can  run  ARA,  UUCP  and  Fax  software
 simultaniously. It can detect the type of the incoming call and switch
 the  line  to  the proper server application. You can find the demo on
 Sumex. The commercial version will be available RSN.

 The  only  problem  is  ARA/another-data-server coexistance: while ARA
 requires a direct connection (no compression, no correction), UUCP and
 other  services  can  (but  not must) work better with those functions
 enabled.  There are several workarounds, but at least UUCP should work
 fine without error correction.

 Hope it helps.

 Vladimir A. Butenko                            STALKER Software GmbH
 Tel: 7(095) 939-3907  Fax: 938-2136            Moscow State University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: jmilhoan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (JT)
Subject: Re: Problems with ZTERM
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 03:49:47 GMT

>In article <1993Jan23.193046.10595@cs.rit.edu> mnc@cs.rit.edu (Marcus N Cannava) writes:
>>Hi there,
>>
>>I'm the proud new owner of a SupraFAXModem v.32bis, and wonder why I'm
>>getting such poor performance with zmodem transfers. I'm getting
>>efficiency rates of around 10-20%.. Perhaps a simple setting I'm
>>missing?
>>
>>I'm using Zterm 0.9, on a Mac IIsi, with the modem mentioned above.
>>The connections are reliably connecting at 57,600 baud (14.4 with
>>compression). 

Let me start off by saying that I do have a similar modem.  The modem I am connecting to is at 9600 baud only... no compression, etc.

Originally, I was downloading at 9600 baud with the Zterm settings at 9600.  I did a little experiment since I heard that the rate you set in the program is really only the baud rate that the modem and your computer "talk" to each other at.  So I set it to 57,600 baud and made the connect (which by the way said I was connected at 57,600 when it was really only 9600 between modems).

I used zmodem to download at both rates, and the cps was the same, but the efficiency is based upon how much is being tranferred (cps) divided by what it thinks you are connected at.  So, with the zterm settings at 9600, I was getting about 97% efficiency, but with settings at 57.6k they are much less (10-15 percent as you mentioned), even though it is the same cps rate.

Based upon my figures and experience, it leads me to believe that the compression isn't kicking in.  While almost every modem says it is 100% compatible, it doesn't really seem to be true.  I'm not sure what your supra requires, but look into either the q or k value (at&k? or at&q?).  One of those, according to my manual which I don't have handy at the moment, sets the modem so that it will try to connect at the highest rate possible of the answering modem.

Hope that helps,
JT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Distribution: world
From: Tim_D._Keanini@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:29:56 PST
Subject: Re: uAccess 1.62

From what Intercon has sent me here is the following:
UUCP/Connect Extended:  395.00
UUCP/Connect Lite:  295.00

Upgrading from uAccess:
Software update only:  25.00
With Manuel Update  25.00
With Support for 12 months: 50.00

You can email clint@intercon.com
He seemed like a real nice guy.
GOOD LUCK,
 TIM KEANINI    <timk.@broder.com>

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**** this posting does not in any way reflect BMUG's official views.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: pettsj@visigoth.demon.co.uk (James Petts)
Subject: NewsWatcher
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: No Affiliation
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:53:47 GMT

Hi, I just switched from Nuntius to NewsWatcher, but don't have any docs
for the latter. Is it possible to stop NewsWatcher retrieving the complete
list of groups each time you make an NNTP connection??


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: UUPC <--> UUCP
From: scasterg@waltham.columbus.oh.us
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 05:19:55 -0500
X-Mailer: rnMac Buggy, I mean Beta, Test Version

> I recently got UUPC 3.0 and started to set it up.  However, there's
> still a couple of things I don't get.  How do you initiate the unix
> box (in my case, SUN, bsd 4.3) to send news feeds.  None of the files
> included describe how tto start the newsfeed transfer.
> 
> 
> Am I missing something *really* simple here?
> 
> 
> feeling silly,
> 
> joel
> 

You can't initiate the newsfeed. You have to ask the administrator of the host 
to set up the feed for you. Then, the host will batch the files for you and and 
when you call it or it calls you, if there are batch files waiting, they wil be 
downloaded.