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From: smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead)
Subject: Re: Speaking of YYZ...
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 04:07:43 GMT

jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner) writes:

>jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner) writes:
>>jaeger@buphyk.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:
>>>>Does YYZ mean or stand for anything? Its a great instrumental.
>>>Yes, it is the code for Toronto's airport, just like LAX is the code
>>>for Los Angeles'. Cool eh?

>OOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Something happened to my post.  I meant to say that the beginning of the
>song that Neil plays on the cymbal is the morse code for YYZ.  Cool eh?

   Just for you non-drummers out there, the cymbal Neil is playing is a
crotale. These are tuned bells.
From: faulkner@acsu.buffalo.edu (Shane P. Faulkner)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Music
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:14:06 GMT
Organization: UB

> In article <BvzzB7.1MH@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast) writes:
>	I would like to start a new thread, so here goes:  What kinds of 
>music, other than RUSH, of course, do you listen to?
> 
Why not...  RUSH, Marillion (old and new almost equally.... sorry Fish heads),
Genesis (especially Trick of the Tail thru Seconds Out), The Police, Dream
Theater, Eric Johnson, Gamalon, Kim Mitchell/Max Webster, Joe Satriani, some
Yes.  That just about covers the biggies.

//////////////////  Rush - Marillion - Kim Mitchell  ////////////////////
/ Shane P. Faulkner         |  Boys and Girls together                  /
/ University At Buffalo     |  Mistake conceit for pride                /
/ V127L2QZ@UBVMS.BITNET     |  Ambition for illusion                    /
/ faulkner@acsu.buffalo.edu |  Dreams for self-delusion   - Neil Peart  /
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From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Opening Acts
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 06:08:40 GMT

Speaking of Marillion opening up for Rush, I really would like to get some
recommendations on which Marillion album to try out for my first, and also,
what other bands have opened for Rush in the past.  As a reletively new, and
young fan (my first tour was Presto), I think that my favorite opening act
so far is Eric Johnson (at Redbird Arena, Normal, IL).  I love "The Cliffs
of Dover."
-- 
**RUSH**YES**METALLICA**PINK*FLOYD**PEARL*JAM**PETER*GABRIEL**PAUL*SIMON**REM*
* "If you don't get even, you learn to take, and I will take you..........." *
* c-amin1@uiuc.edu*********************Peter Gabriel, "Family Snapshot"*******
*The University of Illinois, Urbana/Champaign***Go Illini!*Orioles!*Cowboys!**
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From: tj@alpine.b17a.ingr.com (T.J. Higgins)
Subject: Re: Opening Acts
Reply-To: tj@alpine.b17a.ingr.com
Organization: The Ernest P. Worrell Institute for the Study of the Vernal Equinox
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:55:41 GMT

In article <Bw1qEH.4MJ@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast) writes:
|> what other bands have opened for Rush in the past.  

I've seen Rush 6 times, with a different opening act each time:

Huntsville, AL, 1978:   Starz 
Birmingham, AL, 1980?:  Max Webster
Birmingham, AL, 1982:   Riot ("Fire Down Under")
Birmingham, AL, 1987?:  Blue Oyster Cult ("Club Ninja")
Atlanta, GA, 1992:      Primus ("Sailing the Seas of Cheese")
Nashville, TN, 1992:    Mr. Big

-- 
T.J. Higgins | tj@alpine.b17a.ingr.com | Intergraph Mapping | Huntsville, AL
"Courageous convictions
 Will drag the dream into existence" -- Rush
From: hurben@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Mike Hurben)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: CoS, Satanism, and some other stuff...
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:45:33 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

Now that some of you have seen the face on the front of CoS, has anyone seen
anything odd on the back?  I have not...I always figured that the back had
something to do with the Fountain of Lamneth, and the only thing that ever
caught my eye was how the tree's roots resemble hands digging into the ground.

Also, concerning the ridiculous Satanism business, the STUPIDEST thing I
ever heard was:  some idiot once told me that R.U.S.H. stood for -
 get ready for this  -  "Rock Under Satan's Hands."  Has anyone else
heard of this shit?  Geez...Some people..

Also, I was worried that Marillion opened for Rush in Salt Lake on the Power
Windows tour....I finally remembered that it could not have been Marillion...
It was a blues/rock style band...can't recall the name, they had a fairly
popular tune at the time..."Ain't that tough enough.." or something like that.
Maybe someone out there knows their name...I apologize for my ignorance of
rock music - I am really a classical snob...




  "The sword?  The sword?  How shall I ever forge it?  'Only he who has never
     known fear shall re-forge Nothung anew.'"     
					  -Wagner's "Siegfried," Act 1


_______________________________________________________________________________
			     "The noble soul has reverence for itself."
 Michael Hurben                                                  -Nietzsche
 Dept. of Physics         "Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things."
 Colorado State University                                       -Quayle
 hurben@lamar.colostate.edu  "See how I love to clean filthy catboxes!"
								   -Hoek
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From: cmermag@eng.umd.edu (Christopher Mermagen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re; MTV and Rush
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:48:08 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

I saw Show Don't Tell, The Pass, The Big Money, and Roll The Bones on 
MTV.. Much Music, the canadian music video channel, played more Rush
songs. A friend of mine who is slightly older than I am said that when
MTV first came out, they actually played cool stuff, like much of RUSH
from 1981-84 (signals and p/g)... would've been nice to see.


Chris
From: fjs@discovery.ksu.ksu.edu (Frank J Sereno)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: MTV and Opening acts
Date: 16 Oct 1992 02:14:52 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: discovery.ksu.ksu.edu


In article <1bl33gINNo04@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, satch@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Victor Corbin) writes:
>Why is everyone so concerned that MTV doesn't play enough Rush.  Rush is the 
>highest form of no Bull s**t music and MTV is the lowest form of B.S.  I
>am proud to say MTV rejects Rush because to me that only complements Rush.
>So MTV freaks goe blow yourself until you impload!!!!!!!!
>
>On the subject of opening bands, I'd like to see Rush with Kiss. Gee that
>hasn't happened since 1974.  Kiss is one of my favorite bands next to Rush and
>I think they can still kick. So Kiss and Rush 1993 Tour!!


I would tend to disagree with your coupling of Rush with Kiss.  

First of all, I could do without hearing 'Let's Put The X In Sex'.

Second, I could to without hearing '...I just want to forget you...".

Third, these guys were washed up some-time ago!!!!

Get real..........

Frank Sereno
Kansas State University
From: kennedyj@ul.ie
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Music
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:38:32 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

Hmm, a tough one ... Let's see:

Rush, Marillion+Fish, Fish, The Scorpions, The Triffids, Pink Floyd, Kate Bush,
Tori Amos, Tom Petty, Deep Purple, Rainbow, Led Zeppelin, (old) Black Sabbath,
Iron Maiden, Steve Earle and most classical (esp. Wagner, Beethoven, Schubert
and T<letters deleted>ovsky)

Of course these are mostly the ones that I've been listening to most recently,
I've probably left out loads ...

BTW, Nothing to do with the above, but does anyone know anything about a
Tori Amos mailing list ? Could you email me if you do ? Thanks in advance ...

G'luck,
Jim K.
--
kennedyj@ul.ie
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: MTV and Opening acts
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:15:41 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

In article <1bl33gINNo04@bigboote.WPI.EDU> satch@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Victor Corbin) writes:
>Why is everyone so concerned that MTV doesn't play enough Rush.  Rush is the 
>highest form of no Bull s**t music and MTV is the lowest form of B.S.  I
>am proud to say MTV rejects Rush because to me that only complements Rush.
>So MTV freaks goe blow yourself until you impload!!!!!!!!
>
>On the subject of opening bands, I'd like to see Rush with Kiss. Gee that
>hasn't happened since 1974.  Kiss is one of my favorite bands next to Rush and
>I think they can still kick. So Kiss and Rush 1993 Tour!!

-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
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From: pbiasell@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul R Biasella)
Subject: Re: Presto
Summary: Wait a sec...
Keywords: RTB
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: alt.music.rush
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 04:46:19 GMT

Let's look at RTB. I see alot of passion in Where's My Thing. Also in Ghost of 
a Chance, Dreamline. What dissapoints me is that Rush no longer has long songs 
such as Cygnus x-1, By tor, Camera Eye, or even albumsides like 2112, 
Hemispheres, and the like. I wish they didn't have to conform to the 5-6 min 
standard song time.

I'd love to see an album that has a compilation of all their "story" songs.
i.e.- Hemispheres, 2112, By Tor, Necromancer, Cygnus, etc.
-- 
 _____________________________________________________________________________
  Paul R. Biasella                                  "We're all famous, 
  pbiasell@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu                 it's just that   
  The Ohio State University                          no one knows it."
From: gmcdonald@zdi.ziff.com (glenn mcdonald)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Opening Acts
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:12:15 GMT
Organization: ZDI
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In article <Bw1qEH.4MJ@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Slartibartfast,
cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>Speaking of Marillion opening up for Rush, I really would like to get
some
>recommendations on which Marillion album to try out for my first, and
also,
>what other bands have opened for Rush in the past.  As a reletively new,
and
>young fan (my first tour was Presto), I think that my favorite opening
act
>so far is Eric Johnson (at Redbird Arena, Normal, IL).  I love "The
Cliffs
>of Dover."

When I saw Rush (Hold Your Fire, tour, I think it was), the opening act
was Steve Morse, who was eminently forgettable.

As for Marillion albums, you pick a good time to be introduced to them,
as their 10th anniversary greatest-hits album, "Six of One, Half a Dozen
of the Other: A Singles Collection", came out a couple of months ago, and
should be available in any vaguely competent CD store.  It has one song
each from the first two albums, two each from the third and forth albums,
and three each from the fifth and sixth albums.  There are two extra
songs, a cover of "Sympathy", by Rare Bird, and a new song.  The title
refers to the departure, after Clutching at Straws, the forth album, of
the band's original vocalist Fish (who has two solo albums since), and
the arrival of new singer Steve Hogarth, who used to be in the Europeans.
 Six songs with Fish, six with Hogarth.

They just played here (Boston) on the 11th.  I think it was the best
concert I've seen.

glenn
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From: albertr@crchh780.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Albert Reva)
Subject: Re: Caress of Steel: Rush's Best Album
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:30:52 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.174819.4564@news.columbia.edu>, jrl8@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (James R Lendino) writes:
|> In article <Bw0oFp.GGq@acsu.buffalo.edu> v129j6ed@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.) writes:
|> >In article <cubsfan.718779746@camelot>, cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman) writes...
|> >>When I read the "B" Mans book it was the only albulm I hadn't
|> >>heard yet.  HE sort of put it down or at least described as you
|> >>did how it failed when it was released.  He also mentioned
|> >>those people who insist it is there best.  I Kind of made
|> >>fun of it.  Then I got it and I think that it's there best!
|> >>It covers a wide variety of topics for a 5 song albulm.
|> >>The songs also musically vary in style.  NOt to mention   
|> >>Fountain which is truly a work of art.  I love it!
|> >
|> >When it comes down to a true work of art being overlooked, "Caress of Steel"
|> >is it.  "Fountain of Lamenth" is so deep.  It is truly about life. The 
|> >beginning, the road ahead, and the finale.  It deals with myth and dicerning
|> >myth.  I don't know why most people think this is their weakest album.
|> >
|> >******************************************************************************
|> 
|>     I have to confess that I've only listened to CoS a few times.
|> Based on my own experience with it (and a few friends who agree),
|> CoS is not musically strong.  A lot of the album sounds disjointed,
|> with lots of not-catchy riffs, sudden screaming fits by Geddy -
|> I understand that "catchy tunes" don't always mean great music, but
|> CoS isn't exactly "ear candy."  I will make it a point to seriously
|> listen to the album now, since more and more people are praising
|> its virtues.
|> 
|>    If I have any deep, meaningful moments while I listen, I'll post
|> up.  :-)
|> 
|> -JRL


I have recently discovered CoS recently (I had a copy for two years!), and I must say that is a ggggreat album!  The Fountain of Lammeth has so much feeling, it gives me the chills.  And how about those awesome jams that have been discovered recently by groups like "Pearl Jam"?  Listen and listen carefully, because this album does not dissapoints!

Talking about other things....  I recently got a copy of Permanent Waves with the Newspaper heading uncovered!!!!!!!!  Does anyone has this version? Mine is a test pressing.....just wondering if anyone else have this version too..









Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: pompf00@DMI.USherb.CA (FRANCOIS POMPEO)
Subject: Re: CD or LP
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke -- departement de Mathematiques et d'Informatique
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 01:55:55 GMT
From: fjs@caravan.ksu.ksu.edu (Frank J Sereno)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: circle, star, nude man (?)
Date: 7 Oct 1992 00:27:28 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: caravan.ksu.ksu.edu


In article <1ato32INNdcl@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, suemac@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Susan Beth MacPherson) writes:
>In respose to Frank Sereno's article flaming mine, a pentagram has the
>point on top (NOT devil worshiping), a pentacle has the point downward
>(devil worshiping), sort of the same as the difference between a crucifix
>and an inverted crucifix.
>
>And quit the flames......everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
>
>---suemac


My friend;

The follow-up posting that I sent was in no way meant as a 'flame' (I'm new to
the system but catch on very quickly--neat word though).  I believed that you had 
made a typo. and I was just trying to suggest that point.  Please don't take 
offense to my remarks, as you can tell they were made quite humorously (subjective
to the reader, of course!)  Fortunately, I believe that EVERYONE is entitled to
say what they want, and that applies to you.  Sorry if you, or anyone else, took 
that message the wrong way.  

By the way, thanks for the correct information....

And NO.....I don't know everything

Frank Sereno
Kansas State University


"Where the men are men, and my neighbors' cat is terrified....
............here kitty-kitty-kitty......"
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: pga0625@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Paul G. Ackerman, III)
Subject: Re: Rush Mortality?
Reply-To: pga0625@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:45:50 GMT

>	Has anyone heard the same or similar rumors that I have?
>I've heard that Peart has a fatal disease.  The only backing material 
>that I was given by the teller of this tall tale was the fact that
>Roll the Bones' main concept was to live for the now, screw religion,
>go out and take chances while you still can.
>	I would love to tell myself that this is all false, but ever 
>since having such amazing seats at the Hamilton show and seeing Neil
>so up-close (he looked like he had an aging spurt of about 10 years
>in the last 2.  He was also wearing a bandana (covering hair loss/
>possible chemotherapy of some sort?) at this and most all the other shows
>of the tour.

    This is a direct quote from the NMS FAQL dated Sept. 13.

   These rumors have been popping up for quite some time now.  Here
   are some of the ones that have been shown to be wrong over the
   years by the activities of the band:

    - Alex is dying of cancer
    - Neil is dying of cancer
    - Geddy is dying of cancer
    - Geddy has throat cancer; he's not dying, but can never sing again
    - Geddy is going blind from stage lights.
--
Paul G. Ackerman III    |   Internet addresses:    |"Life is just a candle,  
Rochester Institute of  |pga0625@ritvax.isc.rit.edu| and the dream must give 
   Technology           |          -or-            | it flame."             
Rochester, New York, USA|pga0625@ultb.isc.rit.edu  |               - N. Peart
From: fjs@venture.ksu.ksu.edu (Frank J Sereno)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Any MTV employees who read this....
Date: 15 Oct 1992 18:37:52 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: venture.ksu.ksu.edu
Keywords: Sleazy bastards!!


To any MTV employee who reads this posting;

WHY DON'T YOU PLAY MORE RUSH?!?!?!

IF WOULD BE NICE TO HEAR (AND SEE) GOOD MUSIC FOR A CHANGE!!!!

OF COURSE, WE KNOW YOU WON'T, SO GO SCREW YOURSELF ANYWAY!!!

Frank Sereno
Kansas State University

P.S.  What ever happened to 'honesty and integrity' in the music business??
From: smsst8+@pitt.edu (Steven M Scholnick)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Marillion boots...
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:00:13 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Will the persomn who has the list of Marillion boots online please email it
to me.  I went through the message to fast and forgot to respond to your
orginal post.  Thanx in advance...
__________________________________________________________________________
|                             |                                          |
| Steve Scholnick             |  I don't believe in Destiny              |
| steves@vms.cis.pitt.edu     |  or the guiding hand of fate             |
| steves@theory.chem.pitt.edu |  I don't believe in the stars or planets |
|                             |  or angels watching from above           |
|                             |                      - N. Peart          |
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From: jek@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (James Kittock)
Subject: RTB Program question
Originator: jek@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 23:40:03 GMT


Hey folks,

	Just found this goup, so a quick answer will
suffice if this is old hat

	Has anyone else noticed/explained the "secret
message" in morse code in the inside cover of the Roll
the Bones concert program?  It says "REMEMBER DEATH".

	I noticed this the night I got back from the
concert this spring but hadn't had a chance to such a
large audience about it before.

Cheers,
--james
-- 
james kittock -- .sig impaired
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: rush
Keywords: hello
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:11:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <BvsIxB.Jv3@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast) writes:

>No, Pearl Jam does a Rush-Like jam.....  BTW  Pearl Jam is possibly the best
>band in existance today making fresh music.  This is, of course, besides RUSH,
>Metallica, P. Gabriel, and P. Simon, and Sting, but they are established acts.
>Is it any surprise, though, bands such as PJ (I've said this once, and I'll
>say it again), really love the music that Rush has made through the years...

What is it about Paul Simon that you like? I like (for the most part) 
the people you mention _except_ for Paul Simon. I know he has African
musicians, etc., which should make things interesting, but his stuff
is pretty pop-oriented isn't it? BTW, since you're a fan of PS, do you
know whether it was Simon or Garfunkel (sp.? :) ) who wrote the lyric to
``Sounds of Silence'' that Neil parodies at the end of ``The Spirit
of Radio''?


Gregg

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Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: shehan@eagle (Michael Shehan)
Subject: rush
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Organization: Sangamon State University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:08:46 GMT


Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Frank Erick Sellin)
Subject: CoS artworog
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:30:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.112955.3953@thom2.comlab.ox.ac.uk> leaver@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Andrew Leaver) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.164138.19669@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Frank Erick Sellin) writes:
>>    [... stuff deleted ...] 
>>For that matter, I've never really thought about that cover art.
>>What's it supposed to signify?  Something to do with the Fountain
>>of Lamneth, perhaps?  
>
>Well, the front cover of CoS is quite clearly the Necromancer looking
>into his Magic Prism Lens. I'm not sure what the back cover is.
>
>Andrew
>--

JEez, I should be flogged. Sorry, kids, Old Man Graduate Student ain't
as sharp as he used to be.  
Anyway, is the snake just one of those evil things that hangs around
Mr. Necromancer and adds atmosphere? Or is there more to it?

Also, I sold my vinyl a long time ago, and the idiots who package
Rush CDs leave off half the album art/photos etc., on several 
albums, including CoS. Could someone refresh my memory as to what's
on the back?

Thanks belatedly to Andre, and thanks to everyone else in advance.

Frank Sellin
==============
"Living in their pools
 they soon forget about the sea..."
        --Natural Science
==============
From: fjs@nighthawk.ksu.ksu.edu (Frank J Sereno)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush and Marillion
Date: 13 Oct 1992 10:01:14 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
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In article <1bd73oINNa3g@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, mcarey@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Mark A Carey) writes:
>It seems that a lot of people list Fish/Marillion as some of their other
>favorite bands.  What a treat it was off the Power Windows tour to have
>Marillion open up for them.  That had to be the best opening band Rush has
>ever had.  From my recollection Rush has usually had some lousy (well, not
>great) band open for them.  
>
>
>


I don't know about you seeing any other part of the Rush tour, but for their Power
Windows tour in Kansas City, Blue Oyster Cult opened.  

What a treat it was to hear 'Godzilla' live.........

Frank Sereno
Kansas State University
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