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From: bbrown@infonode.ingr.com (Bailey Brown)
Subject: new accel. 24bit boards from Diamond
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:56:31 GMT

I just got this on Compu$erve.  Diamond will be coming out with
two new boards (in addition to the Speedstar 24 they just released)
in the next month or so.  The first, is the Speedstar 24X, which
will list for about ten bucks more than the Speedstar 24, and will
have a Western Digital graphics accelerator chip, I believe the
90C180 or something like that.  Does anybody know what this chip 
can do?  Anyway, it will support 640x480x24bit, 800x600x15bit,
1024x768x8bit, 1280x960x4bit, and 1280x1024x4bit.  It will come
bundled with some imaging software (form Halo?) and some sort of 
desktop manager type thing from Panacea.

The other board which is duea out soon after the 24X is the Stealth
24.  It will be a Stealth VRAM with a 640x480x24bit mode (no
800x600x15bit).  It will cost about the same as the Stealth VRAM.

I will probably get ahold of one of these.

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Bailey Brown                               "Above all else, confusion reigns."
Intergraph Corporation                                  
bbrown@casca.b11.ingr.com                              Procol Harum
From: DIXONW@arizvm1.ccit.arizona.edu (Bill Dixon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: X-Rays
Date: 25 Jul 92 21:39:49 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona


    On a recent trip I passed through four airport security checkpoints
carrying my laptop with a hard disk and some floppies in the case. Two of
these points were in Europe and two in the US. At both US points (Tucson
and Chicago) I passed the laptop to the guard who did a visual inspection
and asked that it be booted. At Tucson I was required to take out the
computer and disks and run the case through the x-ray. Probably this is
a common experience to many readers.
    In Europe it's a different story. At a Zurich security point I
prepared to pass the guard my computer. No, he said, run it through the
x-ray machine with all the other carry on bags. Aghast, I tried to convince
him it would destroy the hard disk. What was wrong with these Swiss, anyway,
hadn't they ever seen a laptop? He kept saying, no problem, no problem.
Guess what? No problem. I immediatly turned on the laptop and it worked
just fine--all data intact. I had the same experience in Stockholm.
    Anybody know what gives here? Do European airports use a different
sort of x-ray machine? Or is everyone in the US, security guards included,
under a huge misconception?
- - - -
   William J. Dixon
   Dept. of Political Science          Phone: (602) 621-7600
   University of Arizona              Bitnet: DIXONW AT ARIZVM1
   Tucson, Arizona 85721            Internet: dixonw@arizvm1.ccit.arizona.edu
From: dbasinge@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Mike Basinger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Ethernet Locking Up Computer
Date: 23 Jul 92 05:36:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Indiana University

On my machine (486 33mHz) when I plug my ethernet cable into the back
of my machine my computer locks up. When I try to re-boot one of two
things happens.

1. machine get stuck in an infinite re-boot.
2. locks up randomly during re-boot.

Does this sound like a software conflict or a problem with my ethernet
card.

Mike Basinger 
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From: hjanssen@cbnewse.cb.att.com (hank janssen)
Subject: Likely FAQ.  Best Solution for SCSI/IDE on one PC.????
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:03:38 GMT


This is most likely a faq, but since i just started reading/posting to
this newsgroup so i hope the net will forgive me my ignorance.

I have a 486/33Mhz with a 210 IDE Mb harddisk, I have on there  a  150
Mb unix partition and two 25 Mb MSDOS partitions. Is  it  possible  to
hook  up another SCSI disk to this machine. (I have a 210 Mb SCSI disk
laying around.

If so, what kind of (extra.??) controller do i need.
Will i get strange system behaviour.
Has  anybody  done  this  before,  if so what are the experiences with
it.??? 

Any help is very much apreciated.

Hank Janssen
att!ihlpb!hjanssen

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From: tszeto@sneezy.ts.stratus.com (Tommy Szeto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Hicolor on Gateway 2000 CrystalScan NI ??
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:40:48 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

I just upgraded to a Diamond Speedstar+ Hicolor and was wondering what I had to
do to set the card to do hicolor properly?  I've tried using hicolor in Windows
3.1 as well as running a program called hiclrtst.exe.  Both times the
CrystalScan would go out of sync.  All the other SVGA modes work fine.  Any
ideas?

Thanks,
Tom

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,misc.forsale.computers
From: axa12@po.cwru.edu (Ashok Aiyar)
Subject: Re: Cyrix Math Coprocessors
Organization: Department of Biochemistry, CWRU Medical School
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:04:23 GMT

In article <Bs0von.14o@world.std.com> eac@world.std.com (Eric A Cottrell) writes:


>Hello,
>I saw an ad in the Computer Currents magazine giving $79 for a SX387 and $99
>for a DX387. I went a computer show and most dealers were selling them for
>$135! Finally I found a dealer (only one btw) that was selling the DX387 for
>$95 dollars. So be patient and shop around.
>73 Eric WB1HBU  eac@world.std.com

In case someone is interested, CYRIX's 800 line is 1-800-FAS-MATH
----------------------------------------------------------------------
                             Ashok A. Aiyar
                       Department of Biochemistry
                         CWRU School of Medicine
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From: etsiao@joule (Eddie Tsiao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: MAG 15'' - Monitor
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:15:41 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

In article <1992Jul21.215154.18266@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell) writes:
>
>In a previous article, xmic@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Michael Behnke) says:
>
>>hi,
>>
>>I read the articles about the MAG 15'' Monitor and now i plan to get one. 
>>But please, can anybody answer this:
>>  what is the correct spec/name for the MAG 15'' ?
>>  what kind of tube is build inside (perhaps a sony-trinitron?)?
>>  is the monitor compatible to the MPR II - Swedish norm ?
>>  what kind of resolution whith what kind of refresh is maximum ?
>>
>>Please, if You have some answers, post it to this group.
>>
>>Michael Behnke.
>>
>>
>
>Mag innovision mx15f 
>
>1280x1024 @ 60 hz max - non interlaced
>1024x786 @ 70 hz max - non interlaced
>.28 dot pitch true black shadow mask
>anti glare etching
>digital controls

I beleive there is also a model with the trinitron screen, MX15S (also MX17S).
I've had one for about 3 months and I love it.  Good luck.

			- E.T.

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From: ys@wam.umd.edu ()
Subject: ATI drivers for Windows 3.1 wanted!
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:43:54 GMT

Does anyone know if there is a FTP site where i can pick up ATI drivers
for Windows 3.1? I have a VGA Wonder and actually would like the 800*600*256
driver. Any help would be appreciated.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: jpotts@alexandria.lib.utah.edu (JOE POTTS)
Subject: 486 Motherboards, Micronics vs C-T?
Summary: Seeking info on Chips-and-Technologies and Micronics 33 MHZ Motherboards
Keywords: 80486 Motherboards Micronics Chips-and-Technologies
Organization: Marriott Library, University of Utah
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:22:02 GMT

    At the library where I work we are getting ready to purchase 50+ 33 Mhz/
64 K cache 486 (ISA bus) machines for library staff and students using our 
micro-computer lab.   The local vendor that we are considering is offering 
us a choice of Micronics or Chips-and-Technologies motherboards. Micronics 
is a little over $100 more expensive.  We we be running DOS, Windows, 
and OS2 on the machines.
    We would appreciate any information about experience with 
these brands of boards.  Information about the relative quality of other 
brands would also be welcome.  

Joseph C. Potts                      JPOTTS@ALEXANDRIA.LIB.UTAH.EDU
Marriott Library Systems             JPOTTS@UTAHLIB.BITNET           
University of Utah 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Can I mix 70ns SIMMS with 80ns SIMMS
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 02:14:45 GMT

In article <19088@fritz.filenet.com> darnold@fritz.filenet.com (Dave Arnold) writes:
>I am upgrading to OS/2 2.0, and so I need 8 megabytes of RAM.
>My Northgate elagance currently has 4MB of 80 nanosecond RAM (I determined
>this by looking at the chips which have a -8 suffix).  I am having trouble
>finding 80 nanosecond chips.  Can I safely mix 80ns chips with 70ns chips
>for use with OS/2?  I was told that OS/2 is very sesitive to memory.

You are simply putting in faster memory, which should not cause any
problems.  (Doing the reverse, trying to put slower memory in a system
already using faster memory, might cause problems.)

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From: dwgordon@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Dwight W. Gordon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Cyrix Math Coprocessors
Date: 29 Jul 1992 07:49:04 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell) writes:

>tar@math.ksu.edu (Tim Ramsey) writes:

>>hhtne@usho52.hou281.chevron.com (H.T.Nettles) writes:
>>
>>>    83D87-33  $ 85
>>>    83D87-25  $ 85
>>
>>Assuming these prices are still valid, is there any reason to purchase
>>the 83D87-25 over the -33?

>I would assume that one would have to buy the coprocessor that matches the
>speed of his CPU, no?

  NO!!!

  The speed grade is the maximum speed at which the parts
operate.  With CMOS technology there is usually no problem
running it at a lower speed (system timing aside).  In fact the
way most manufacturers certify there "slower" parts is to take a
single production run, test all of the parts, and those parts
that don't meet the "fast" timing specifications get retested at
the "slow" level to see if they are certified there.

  For example: a run is done of -33 parts.
     Those parts that pass the -33 tests are certified as -33.
     Rejects are tested at -25.  Passed parts are certified as -25.
     -25 Rejects are tested at -20, etc.

  The manufacturer charges more for the faster parts due to items
like customer demand and lower process yield (smaller supply).
At some point the process is refined enough where the
manufacturer stops wasting time on the slower certifications and
just junks the parts that don't pass the fastest timings.

- Dwight -

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dwgordon@ksuvm.bitnet                             Durland Hall
Phone 913-532-5600; FAX 913-532-7810        Manhattan, KS 66506-5105
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: umnoor@ccu.umanitoba.ca (N. Ahmad)
Subject: Intel and Motorola CPU's
Followup-To: poster
Originator: umnoor@keyes.cc.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 21:25:15 GMT


[This is NO attemp to start a flame war]
I hear a lot about Motorola processors being inheritly better than Intel
CPU's. It is said that Motorola's architecture and instruction set is better
than that of Intel. How would you compare a Motorola's CPU to one from Intel?

thanks
--ahmad.

(I would post a summary later)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: thao@bnr.ca (Anthony Murtagh)
Subject: Re: Sound Cards
Keywords: sound
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:39:56 GMT

In article <516@sadis01.sa.aflc.af.mil> rkorczyk@sadis05.sa.aflc.af.mil (RICK KORCZYK - SCDR (AI LAB)) writes:
>Hi,
>        I have a 386/25 Pc Clone and am looking to install a sound
>card and would like some advise.  Sound Blaster seems to be the
>popular card but I have read [here on the net] that a lot of games
>either hang-up when using this card or just don't work right.
>
>Is this true?  If so what card is the best, also what all is involved
>in installing one of these cards?  Do you need external speakers, etc.
>
>Post E-mail or Net.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Rick
>
>"and they were singing bye bye Miss American pie"

there's a newsgroup dedicated to discussing sound cards...don't remember off hand though.  however,
my 0.02 worth:

	i have not had any problems with the soundblaster card.  the hang-ups and such occur when
	the motherboard has interrupt conflicts with the sound card.  that seems to occur only
	with some 486 motherboards, however, since i don't follow this group too closely, i may
	have missed out on the posts where this may have arisen with the other motherboards.

	anyway, soundblaster is a "standard"  of sorts and it hasn't presented me with any problems.
	installation is easy *unless* you have a lot of cards in your computer already which may
	necessitate changing the sound cards interrupts/addresses via dip switches.  and yes,
	external speakers will be necessar...or better yet, just pipe it into your stereo  :-)

laly thao


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From: visser@n6batws1.itwol.bhp.com.au (Martin Visser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.intel,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: 32bit Local bus == PES == OverDrive ??
Date: 30 Jul 92 07:29:19 GMT
Organization: BHP Steel - Slab and Plate Products Division - Port Kembla AUSTRALIA

G'day,

I have heard a little bit about the 32 bit Local Bus that is used by
some video cards ( e.g. S3 based ) to improve throughbit. Is this
the same as the Intel OverDrive socket or the Processor Enhancement
Socket?? Does it add a lot of cost to the motherboard ( I'm looking at
a 486/33)?

Also does it really improve performance substantially, especially under windows.
And what cards are the best to use that can use this?

Regards, Martin
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: rpack@javelin.sim.es.com (Rick Pack)
Subject: Viewsonic 8 recommendations
Reply-To: rpack@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, Utah
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:44:10 GMT

I have a chance to pick up a Viewsonic 8 20" monitor for about $1500.
I recall that the Viewsonic 7 is quite highly thought of by it's owners
and wonder if anyone has any experience with the 8.  It has .31mm dot pitch
and does 1280 x 1024 non-interlaced.  The 7 has .28mm pitch, so I am assuming
that .31 is simply due to the larger screen (17" vs. 20").

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

-- 
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Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Salt Lake City, Utah
(801) 582-5847
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw)
Subject: Re: IBM 5151 and 5175 - what are they?
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: net 
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:16:34 GMT


One other way to determine if the 5175 is a CGA monitor (which I
think is correct) is to look at the rear controls. If there are
only single V and H adjustments, for sure it is CGA. Most, if
not all EGA monitors have 2 V and 2 H controls since they can
operate as CGA and/or EGA.

Bob.
From: u95_jflynn@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu (And Hiding Away)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Computer Discount Warehouse Experiences?
Date: 28 Jul 92 04:23:20 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Fairleigh Dickinson University

In article <62930@cup.portal.com>, Tim_-_Otholt@cup.portal.com writes:
>>Can anyone relate either good or bad experiences when dealing
>>with Computer Discount Warehouse (CDW in Northbrook, Ill.)
>>via mail order?
>> 
>>Thanks in advance,
>> 
>>  
>>--
>> 
>>Ben Gullette  (512) 891-2198
>>uunet!oakhill.sps.mot.com!beng
>>Motorola 88000 Development
----------

In this line of questioning, has anyone heard anything (good, bad, etc)
about a company called MDS in Foster City, CA?  I'm thinking about buying
a 486-33 from them and was wondering if anyone ever had any problems.


thanx much,

jim flynn
u95_jflynn@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
stevens institute of technology
hoboken, nj 07030
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
Subject: Re: everex tape drive software
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 05:49:09 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <PCG.92Jul30222601@aberdb.aber.ac.uk> pcg@aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi) writes:
>On 25 Jul 92 02:32:27 GMT, cyrus@virusdd.GUN.de (Ulrich Cyrus) said:
>
>>  I've been using an Everex Excel Streaming tape (60 Mb) backup unit
>>  for several years now and it still works well.
>>  so old my version of the Everex Software doesn't understand it.
>cyrus> hmm, I have bought one without the software.  Could you please
>cyrus> mail me an address, where to get it?
>Probably both of you could do well by getting some recent backup
>software. In particular Sytos/Sytos PLus has a large library of
>supported tape drives/controllers, and I think it is a fine program.
>--
You can always call Everex's BBS.  They always have the latest
versions of their software.   510-226-9694



From: marvin@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Marvin Taylor)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 19:52:25 GMT
Subject: Re: Strange RAM problem
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware, Ricky Suave Stella writes:

> SX boards only require to fill in 2 banks at a time.  They are not 32-bit
> boards.  That's why you can have 6 Megs installed.

> On DX boards, you have to fill in 4 banks at a time, since you do have a 
> 32-bit bus.

Another thing to consider is mixing the size of the SIMMs.

For a (short) time I had four 4MBx9 and four 1MBx9 SIMMs installed in
my AMI motherboard.  It detected both banks correctly, but would not
use the 1MB's (it classified them as "Absent").

The manual was misleading -- it says, "Use only one type of module to
fill each bank."  But after re-reading the manual, I should have
deciphered this.

Fortunately, I already had buyers for the 1MB's.  Incidentally, two
people purchased 2MB each, and BOTH had problems (and they both ended
up buying 2MB more).

- Marvin
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Cyrix Math Coprocessors
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:54:47 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <cee1.711941917@Isis.MsState.Edu>, cee1@ra.msstate.edu (Charles Evans) writes:

| >>This guy said $125, and that was retail, so it must be better than that on
| >>the mail-order market.
| >>

  ELKCO (1-800-24ELKCO) has the 33 for $85, the 40 for $108. I have done
business with them both personally and for the company, and we have
always been satisfied. You can probably save about 4-6% by shopping
around even over these prices, but I don't know anyone cheaper I'd use
again.

| >is cyrix the best choice? i've had some compatibility problems with weitek
| >and autocad, but was told itt is the next best thing next to intel.

  I think if you benchmark they are a bit better than Intel. Not a lot
on most things, but a bit. By my benchmarks the transcendental
functions are a lot faster in some cases, like 3-4x, but in "real
programs" there's only a tiny difference. 

-- 
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	It never ceases to amaze me that otherwise rational people, able to
	understand calculus, compound interest, and the income tax form, can
	continue to believe that poker is a game of chance.
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