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From: nautilus@lachesis.acm.rpi.edu (John M. Twilley)
Subject: Problem with 3b2/310
Organization: The Voice of Fate
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 03:49:18 GMT


I accidentally deleted /filledt, and I am having trouble getting it back
to work. :-(
 
It won't get as far as DIAGNOSTICS  PASSED.
 
I _think_ I can get it to work if I can make a standalone /unix
disk....
 
Any suggestions?
 
Nautilus.
-- 
John M. Twilley      |  A decapitated cockroach lives for several
nautilus@acm.rpi.edu |  weeks before finally dying of starvation.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
From: pjh@mccc.edu (P. J. Holsberg)
Subject: Stuff in /dev ???
Organization: The College on the Other Side of U. S. 1
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:25:57 GMT

If this is answered in any of the SV/386 R3.2.x manuals, please let me
know, but

	what are the devices
		pts000-pts015?
		sxt000-sxt071
		xt000-xt007 (these are probably virtual terminals??)

Thanks,
Pete
From: Jim_Johnson@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Jim Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Bigdemo
Distribution: world
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:27:10 EST
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch

In a message dated Sat 25 Jul 92 19:01, Moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
wrote:


 M> What's the deal!?       Should I just go out and get an 800xl!? ;)
 M> (even tho it doesn't have this awesome keyboard!?)

 M> Oh...   good question just popped up.  How hard is it to replace 
 M> keyboards between the 800xl & 1200xl.  Opps..   No deal.  I just 
 M> remembered the F-keys and Console buttons & the like are on the side
 M> on 
 M> the 800xl.

 M> Damn!

 M> Say____________9_year_veteran_ ||| __
 M> Hi PhBill: Bill Kendrick      / | \ 
 M> if moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
 M> in __________________________________
 M> NJ!                     July 17, 1992

You don't have to try to stuff a 1200XL keyboard into an 800XL.  The 800XL
OS retains full support for the 1200XL function keys.  Just add four push
button switches and wire them into the keyboard decoder chips (see messages
from here about a week ago). You will have full 1200XL functionality
without the limitations.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

Jim Johnson-
*** Remember, they're only tools - Not a way of life! ***
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: bbs@neb (BBS System)
Subject: Daisy Dot III
Organization: Nebula BBS - Salt Lake City Utah, USA
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 23:40:03 GMT

I havent yet sent in for the registered version of III (still using the
demo) - but will be sending my check in soon. You can now add pic's and
icons into the output document? WOW! How do you specify (within the
document itself) where and which pic to insert? All replies appreciated!
Daisy Dot III - better than Word Perfect in my opinion!!
-----
Posted by BBS User: James King
From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Old software
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 13:14:32 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

THEY'D HAVE TO SUPPORT IT!?!?!??!  AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHHAHAHAHAHHHHAHAHAHA!!!


HOW exactly does one support such old software.  I'm sure there's 
probably no one left in those companies anymore from back in the A.C. 
days!  I'm sure plenty more A.C. users out here know a lot more about the 
old games than whoever's left in the companies!!!


Damn...         that makes me mad.

Say|____________9_year_veteran_ ||| __
Hi |PhBill: Bill Kendrick      / | \
if |moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
in |__________________________________
NJ!|                     July 30, 1992
From: crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: SIO port protocol
Date: 28 Jul 92 04:13:42 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In <Jim_Johnson.05wz@abcd.Houghton.MI.US> Jim_Johnson@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Jim Johnson) writes:

>I assume you are talking about building a RS-232 serial port and a
>Centronics compatible parallel port for your 8bit directly from the SIO
>port.  Sorry to say, but you will be major money ahead to buy something
>like the P:R: Connection.  The SIO port doesn't have the correct voltages
>or data lines to simply assemble a cable with a SIO connector on one end
>and a RS-232 connector on the other end.

>Going from a RS-232 line to a SIO device (as in the ST-Xformer) is another
>story.  It is much easier to drop from RS-232 12volt signals to SIO 5volt
>signals, AND not too much more than the data lines and software polling
>signals are needed to send/receive from SIO devices.

It amy be a bit different, but the SIO2PC hardware device does allow 2-way
communication with a RS-232 port.  If you're building something that deals
with RS-232 and SIO, I suggest you look at the hardware specifications for
SIO2PC available at the archive site.

--PC
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: snyder10@convex1.tcs.tulane.edu (sherry snyder)
Subject: Echo arc now at Umich...
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-6519]: convex1.tcs.tulane.edu
Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:44:57 GMT

The file Echo.arc has been sent to the atari archive at 
atari.archive.umich.edu and can be found in the atari/8bit/new
section.

It's an interesting program, I run it on a few of the batch files I use
with SpartaDos.  Works very much like the echo command found on IBM's.
The file does include the source code.  

Enjoy

Mike...

______________________________________________________________________________
  Sherry L. Snyder L.P.N.                         Mike Todd - Publications.
  Tulane Dept. of Dermatology                    Tulane Dept. of Dermatology
  snyder10@convex1.tcs.tulane.edu                dt01mws@music.tcs.tulane.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: bd891@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Allwood)
Subject: Re: CRASH!
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 10:46:28 GMT


WHILE YOU WERE OUT SOME ALIENS FROM STAR TRECK MIGHT HAVE
BEAMED DOWN IN TO YOUR HOUSE AND ACCIDENTLY LANDED ON
YOUR KEYBOARD. OR MAYBE
THEY TRYIED TO LEAVE YOU A MESSAGE ON IT BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE
USED RUNNING 1024 BIT
MACHINES THEY LEFT A BUG IN YOUR SOFTWARE.
I HAVE BEEN USING BOBTERM ON MY 1200 XL
WITH NO PROBLEMS; I THINK?
-- 
I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ for it is the POWER of 
God unto SALVATION! * Paul Allwood bd891@Cleveland.Freenet.edu
From: DUNHAM_JERRY@TANDEM.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Atari questions
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:46:00 GMT

To Mark B. Czarnowski,

The Atari modem you describe is the SX212.  I don't know of a current
source off of the top of my head, but I'm sure you could find one at
approximately that price by poking around a bit.

As for 8-bit software, it takes some digging, but there IS some good
stuff still available if you know where to look, and the prices are
QUITE reasonable.  One source I'm sure you haven't heard of is an
Atari store in Boerne, Texas.  Here's the story:

For many years Floyd Blunk has owned and operated a truly excellent
Atari store in Boerne or San Antonio (it moved back and forth through
the years) called Atari-Ville, supporting the 8-bit at first and later
adding the ST.  His prices were always excellent and his selection of
software phenomenal.  He offered hardware service, but only typically
sold the lower-end hardware that moved in volume.

Early this year Floyd sold the Atari business so as to concentrate on
his H&R Block franchise and his Sears catalog store franchise.  The
new owner had no interest in the 8-bit side of the business and did
not take Floyd's 8-bit stock.  Floyd therefore moved all the 8-bit
stuff, as well as some ST stuff the new owner wasn't interested in,
to the H&R Block office in Boerne and has been selling it off at fire
sale prices ever since.  New, unopened software for my 8-bit I bought
for prices ranging from $1 to $4, including things like AtariWriter +
and Write 80.  I bought backup copies of many of the games my kids
play often just because they were so cheap (and I have no Happy).
I bought my son a brand-new, never opened XDM121 daisywheel printer
for $39.95.  Yes, Floyd is quite willing to take phone orders and
ship anywhere in the U.S. and Canada.

If you are interested in getting a list of what's currently still
available, or just checking to see if he has a copy of something
specific that you are looking for, call the H&R Block office in
Boerne, Texas.  I just dug around looking for a phone number and
found (512)249-3024, but I'm not sure whether that's the H&R Block
number or the old (now defunct) Atari-Ville number, so you may have
to resort to directory assistance.

I hope this helps.

                                     --Jerry Dunham
                                       Tandem Computers
                                       dunham_jerry@tandem.com
                                       400, 600XL, 800XL, 520ST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: tgreen@iastate.edu (Todd Greenfield)
Subject: Re: Old Software
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:54:56 GMT

In <9207272152.AA21721@smithkline.com> poehland%phvax.dnet@SMITHKLINE.COM writes:

>In the past couple issues of this Digest several people have expressed quasi-
>legal opinions on the legality of copying abandoned software.  Judging by the
>contradictory nature of those opinions, the legal issues are just as murky as
>the moral ones.
I'll second that.  This isn't really a clear cut issue.  Sure we'd
like to support the authors of 8bit software, but the reality is
that there aren't any authors left, and the old software can be 
difficult to find.  In the past, the software companies and authors
were actually hurt by 8bit piracy, but now that point is moot.
The only people it still hurts are those retailers that still
carry the stuff.  

my $.02

Todd
-- 
Todd Greenfield
tgreen@iastate.edu 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: brs@cs.brown.edu (Brian Stormont)
Subject: Atari 8bit stuff (where to get it?)
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Brown University
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:33:07 GMT


Does anyone have info as to where any of the 8bit machines and peripherals can
be obtained? How about software?

I had several Atari 800 machines and just recently dug them out of storage.
Unfortunately, it seems not all the machines work anymore, and I seem
to have lended out parts that never returned. Anyhow, I would be interested
in how I might purchase some of the old stuff. How about those books, like
"The Atari Memory Map" books, or the schematics and os assembly code listings
that used to float around at user groups. Is any of this stuff available still?

Brian - rediscovering the Atari was an extremely advanced machine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: jmedeiros@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: logging onto umich.edu
Reply-To: jmedeiros@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:45:51 GMT

I know there are a great deal of Atari 8-bit files located in
atari.archive.umich.edu but I don't know how to login to that
system.  I don't know what to type in at the login prompt.
Is is visitor, guest, or what?  If anyone can help me I would
be thankful.
			Thanks
			John Medeiros 
			JMEDEIROS@UMASSD.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: sourada@iastate.edu (Steven D Ourada)
Subject: Life Construction Set
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:30:30 GMT

I may have posted this question before, but I might as well try again...
In Antic's (now quite defunct) PD catalog, there is one disk that sounds
pretty interesting, and if anyone has it, I would be grateful if they
would upload it to an ftp site. Here's the description from the Catalog:

LIFESET- Game of Life Construction Set with more variables than inventor/
scientist John Horton Conway could have dreamt of! #PD019

                   Thanks,
                     Steven Ourada

-- 
-----------------
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From: lenn@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jody Lenn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Stuff left for sale
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:38:56 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

I have the following programs for sale:

          Music Const. Set  -  $8.00

          Pinball Const. Set - $8.00

          Summer Games      -  $5.00

          Zaxxon            -  $5.00  (800 only, FIX-XL, translator don't 
                                       work!!!!!!!)

          Suspended         -  $3.00  (Original, lost docs)

          Skywriter cart.   -  $2.00  no docs

          Parker Bros.  Chess cart. - $3.00 no docs, easy to figure out       


          Mail Order Monsters  - $7.00

          Super Huey           -  $7.00

          Page Designer        -$8.00

          Dropzone              -  $2.00  

          Deep Blue C w/mathlib  - $12.00

          Colourspace            - $6.00



  I  ALSO HAVE THE FOLLOWING HARDWARE FOR SALE:

          Xetec Grafix Parallel Printer Interface  $15.00
      
          BRAND NEW!!  65XE        $60

          TWO 1050'S  ONE GREAT, ONE OK    45  OR  38 DOLLARS DEPENDING

          

                                

                                                        JODY LENN
                                                     lenn@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: bbs@neb (BBS System)
Subject: Re: PSAN
Organization: Nebula BBS - Salt Lake City Utah, USA
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 20:46:57 GMT

It was I who asked about PSAN and I too only have 1 issue NOV. 1990
(what a coincidence, eh?) I was so impressed with the magazine, I
thought I would see if its possible to get a subscrip..
..
Jim King aka Kamaro Kid
-----
Posted by BBS User: James King
From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Atari 800 programs on an IBM?
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 13:53:23 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan) writes:

> <Throwing caution to the wind>
> 
> Why? I must have missed those ad nauseum discussions which took place
> here. Anyone out there care to give the newcomers a break and post or
> email a brief summary explaining why Darek refuses to release his PC
> version of the 8bit emulator? I'm sure Jeff, myself, and many others
> would me most appreciative.
> 
> Thanks!
> 

Possibly because they are using an ATARI OS, which means they're breaking 
the law if they sell it...?
BTW: is the ST-Xformer HARDware or SOFTware and what about this diddy?  
Same thing??
thanx

    "Be seeing you!"
Say|____________9_year_veteran_ ||| __
Hi |PhBill: Bill Kendrick      / | \
if |moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
in |__________________________________
NJ!|                     July 24, 1992
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: fontana@cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Fontana)
Subject: Thanks for Miner help
Originator: fontana@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:22:17 GMT


Thanks for the replies about how to skip levels in Miner 2049er.  It was
fun to finally see those levels that had sat latent for nearly 10 years!

It would be nice to have an archive site for some of these classic games,
if someone could work out the legal mess once and for all.  The amount of
fun you can pack into one megabyte of disk space is incredible.
(Compare this with the average IBM game :)

I'd like to find a copy of Koronis Rift to use with SIO2PC.  My original
boot disk now makes that lovely "blip--- blip---- blip----" sound.



Mark
From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: CRASH!
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 15:24:50 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

Does anyone know what could be wrong with my 1200xl??  Here are a few 
things it's been doing lately, even though I haven't been loading up 
anything special or spilling stuff into it... :)

Freezing- it froze in BobTerm.  Not even [RESET] got me out
DOSing-   I was in DDIII's Font Editor, but I left the house for a while
          and came back.  For some reason when I hit [-] to change chars.
          (first button I pressed when I got back) it typed it out
          onto the screen... a few seconds later it attempted to
          go to dos...
more key freezes


could it be the keyboard/chips?
thanx

Say|____________9_year_veteran_ ||| __
Hi |PhBill: Bill Kendrick      / | \
if |moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
in |__________________________________
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: aa700@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Current)
Subject: Re: Dos 3
Reply-To: aa700@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Current)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 14:58:41 GMT


In a previous article, mfolivo@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark Newton-John) says:

>Here's an example of an incompatible format.
>Try using a DOS 2.0D in a 810 or 1050 drive. Or using a DSDD disk
>formatted on an XF551 drive on an 810 or 1050. The 810 and 1050
>can't read the disk because of the double density format.

Do you HAVE DOS 2.0D?  I've never heard of anyone who had seen it.  Maybe
you have an 815 Drive to go with it?
-- 
 Michael Current, Cleveland Free-Net 8-bit Atari SIGOp   -->>  go atari  <<--
   The Cleveland Free-Net Atari SIG is the Central Atari Information Network
      Internet: currentm@carleton.edu / UUCP: ...!umn-cs!ccnfld!currentm
     BITNET: currentm%carleton.edu@{interbit} / Cleveland Free-Net: aa700
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: nickd@vpnet.chi.il.us (Nicholas J. DiMasi)
Subject: Re: Dead 1050
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 02:35:12 GMT

Well, the ol' Alchemist brought up an interesting point  (about  the  spare
Tandon  mechanisms  -  I gather that most/all 1050's use these, i.e. if one
has a spare mech from American Tech.-V. for a 1050, it's  a  Tandon?).  Our
(SCAT's)  8-bit librarian bought one of those mechs, and put it in, and her
previously dead 1050 worked for a short (?) time, but then stopped  working
(dead,  as  I  understand it).  I paid her a visit to drop off a submission
(to the library), and we took the 1050 apart, and I poked at the chips (but
didn't  reseat them because I didn't know how to remove the  board;  but  I
noticed  that one or two connectors seemed loose.  I pushed it/them back in
tighter,  and we tried the 1050 with half the case on (as I recall)  -  and
it  worked.   But  when  we  put the whole thing together, it  died  again.
Now,  her  husband won't  let  her sink any more $$ into 8-bit eqpt repairs
(they  are  going  to  get  her a PC- compatible :-/).  Any suggestions for
fixing this  thing  for (almost)  free?   That  is,  is  there  anything  a
non-electronics-tech (I'm really a s/w person) can do to fix this?

Thanks for any help,

Nick DiMasi

Internet: nickd@vpnet.chi.il.us
Delphi: TURBONICK
From: Amos.Jackson@f47.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Amos Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: SDX Users?
Date: 25 Jul 92 21:14:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: tdkt.712142739.F00002

Since I have been unable to send any e-mail, I'd thought I'd post this direct.
 
I own several versions of SpartaDOS from version 1.1 to 4.20 (the X cart).  It
is my DOS of choice and I use it daily, along with around 250 utilities (most
pertaining to 3.2d, but work well with the X cart).
 
As an example, I found a bug in the X cart yesterday, that pertains to the
command.com module in the cart.  Just fiddling around I turned on my system
(Newell 1 MEG 800XL, 1 MEG MIO, and hard drive, and typed the following:
 
TIME
DATE
KEY ON
COMMAND
PATH ON
IBM ON
?
 
After hitting return on the question mark line, the system locked up.  It locked
up 5 out of 5 times.
 
Amos Jackson

 * Origin: FlightLine BBS Mpls,MN USRdual 612-544-5118 (1:282/47.0)
From: bruck@BRACHOT.JCT.AC.IL (Itay [hamiel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: To the person who wanted tech. info
Date: 26 Jul 92 15:15:33 GMT
X-Unparsable-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 18:14:18 EET DST

A while ago there was a guy who asked for info on using
Character sets, PMs etc., and I have JUST the thing for him...
Who was he? If it's YOU, contact me!
ps If you noticed I have a new signature.
                                                                -Itay
--
                           ****************
                           * Itay Chamiel *
           bruck@brachot.jct.ac.il  OR  bruck@147.161.1.1
                           * The Parasite *
                           ****************
        Calling to YOU from Jerusalem, Israel! (a cozy place)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: ac742@yfn.ysu.edu (Joe Perkins)
Subject: Rambrandt
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:26:43 GMT


I have some Antic disks that contain the paint program "RAMBRANT",
as well as some utilities and the SOLID OBJECT MODULE for Rambrant.
The disks are numbered AP0157a, AP0182, and AP0157b..
Can anyone tell me if the source code to these programs ever 
appeared in print (Antic magazine)..and if so, in what issue?
Better yet, is the author out there listening somewhere?
I am trying to get this thing to work on my Hard drive..I would like 
to change the default drive # for disk access..and maybe a few other 
things that will allow it to search subdirectories and exit to DOS.
Thanks
-- 
****Joe Perkins
    Internet:  ac742@yfn.ysu.edu
****

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: cummins@a.cs.okstate.edu (CUMMINS JOHN WILLI)
Subject: sio2pc opinions/hints wanted!
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 18:18:29 GMT

I'm considering usind SIO2PC to xfer stuff from the internet to an
8bit.  How is this best done?  Anyone out there do it regularly?
Any problems using a 1.2Mb drive to do the task?

THanks (email appreciated... put post if you like!)
jc
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 29 Jul 1992 11:36:08 CDT
From: Mark Czarnowski <U58578@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Test...

123
Mark B. Czarnowski
UIC (University of Illinois at Chicago)
Internet: U58578@uicvm.uic.edu

Go Cubs!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: mfolivo@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark Newton-John)
Subject: Re: Dos 3
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 06:38:28 GMT

In <1992Jul21.160703.1575@neb> bbs@neb (BBS System) writes:

>Have you ever tried to use Dos 2.5 programs with your Dos 3.0 disk
>booted up? Try it out sometime..

Huh? So? I just run the file conversion utility and viola... it
works.

Here's an example of an incompatible format.
Try using a DOS 2.0D in a 810 or 1050 drive. Or using a DSDD disk
formatted on an XF551 drive on an 810 or 1050. The 810 and 1050
can't read the disk because of the double density format.


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From: Amos.Jackson@f47.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Amos Jackson)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Old Software
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 21:16:01 -0600

Read the entire post and all I can say is:
 
Well said!!  <clap-clap-clap-clap>!!!!!!!!
 
Amos Jackson

 * Origin: FlightLine BBS Mpls,MN USRdual 612-544-5118 (1:282/47.0)