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From: zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria)
Subject: Re: AMC:TAN:Crimes against women and children
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:55:05 GMT

In article <3y2XXB6w161w@cdthq.UUCP> mitch@cdthq.UUCP (Mitch Harris) writes:
>Well, this is one shitty club to join, but count me in. I was molested as a 
>child by two different men when I was less than 6. Of course, I never told 
>anyone, 'cause I *knew* my mother would have thought it was my fault. (She 
>had mental problems, which *everyone* in my small hometown knew. Think that 
>contributed to me being molested?)

I haven't gotten in too much in this discussion (except for relaying having
had a couple men expose themselves to me) because it is just such a deep,
disturbing, complex, painful and personal discussion. I think the basis
of our discussions are to somewhat avoid such sad things, and have fun
with AMC, not that we want to "hide" isses but just talk about more lighter
and fun stuff...Anyway, I believe this is a most needed item to discuss
tho, since it is so relevant today. It was always relevant but hidden,
and we are finally bringing the issue to  to task so it can be stopped!
I know there is domestic violence happening every day much to my dismay
(I ask WHY are these men doing this???? :-(((( don't they know they will
have to go to jail for the rest of their life, are they *that stupid*???
Anyway, I also know this brings painful feelings to some of us, and (for
an example what we talk about can directly affect us, like Karin's example,
and I have seen others), and I don't want to bring up painful memories to
any of yall but I know its good to also get things out in the open and the
original pain can heal with mutual respect and comfort to the person) so
in that sense it is good! Anyway, I have had one other experience as well,
but I care not to talk about it. I am sorry to you Beverly and others who
have had such things happen to you. I only hope that time and love,
and self-esteem and self-worth, and kindness can heal the pain. I don't
understand how or why men can do these things to women and children, but
I hope that they are brought to task and must suffer GREATLY for their
most abominable behavior and that men can realize the plight of women
and the good and kind ones help to make up for the vile ones. (Like
the guys we have here in our "family"! :-) 

>.....Beverly "mess with me & I'll kick your *ss!" H.

There are alot of training, lectures and support groups in learning how
to deal with this, so that is good. I just noticed one here at MIT (MIT
does a lot of good things for its community) "Domestic Violence: It's A
Crime! How Can We Stop It?" As long as we keep working to correct and
change it, some good has GOT to come out of it. For the most part, 
I think MOST men are good and decent. And those are the ones I hope we 
meet and encounter in our lives! :-)

Love Caz

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From: krissie@alpha.la.locus.com (Krissie Griffiths)
Subject: Re: Y&R: GGGRRRRRrrrrrr....
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 20:03:39 GMT

In article <C19sLA.7qL@hpuerca.atl.hp.com> mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser) writes:
>
>To tell the truth, I'm getting _real_ tired of the "fawce uv of marry age"
>from Victurd.
         ^^^^
now this is a classic.  and how fitting.

kg

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From: alland@osiris.CSS.GOV (Allan Dianic)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: GL> Mo's final show
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:09:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: ENSCO, Inc., Melbourne, FL


Greetings,

I am a first time poster to this newsgroup.  Does anybody, per chance, have
a tape of the show in which Mo died?  My girlfriend has been an avid GL
fan for 15 years and neither of us remembered to set the VCR on that day.
We also missed the next day because of a 2 hour power outage.  We probably
missed two of the best shows in a long time, what luck. :-( 

In any case it would make a nice valentine's day gift because she really
like Mo.  Thanks in advance.


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From: mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser)
Subject: Re: Y&R: Mamie 
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:03:21 GMT
Organization: a stone mountain of Kudzu

In <C19uoB.I6x@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> bodom@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Odom) writes:

>While we're on the interracial tip, why don't Dru and Blade get together?
>Dru deserves better than Neil "my work is soooo important" Winters.  They're
>made for each other, plus Blade has seen her naked.   hmmmm....
>I wonder what Blade was thinking when he was taking those pictures.  Blade has
>got to have the hots for her.  Just my thoughts.

Yup, Blade's seen her naked but made no move on her.

He made moves on Jill, but now she's taken.

He's trying to make moves on the Breck Girl, er, I mean Ashley-slut,
but she knows not what bod she wants (Blade, Brad, Blechh :-).

I know, let's combine storylines!  Let's have Icktoria discover Ryan
and Nina in bed together.  This frees her to marry the _real_ love of
her life, Neil.  

Since Neil and Dru are _kaput_, this allows Dru to chase after the
man of _her_ deepest dreams, Brad Carlton.  With Brad out of the
picture, Lauren can concentrate on her phallus-du-jour, 
ThatNiceJohnSilva.

However, with Brad taken this leaves Ashley beau-less.  This is solved
when Ashley notices Fine, Young, Dr. Grainger.  Ashley, needing a
nanny for little Scotty, hires Mamie (for whom life became a living
_Hell_ after Jill moved in).

Mamie, after getting tired of being called "Mammy" by Scotty, _and_
after discovering that her bus (never seen on the show) had brakes
from Meineke, decides to leave her career as a token minority domestic
and instead plunges into the fashion modeling industry.  Guess who her
mentor, manager, and eventually lover is?

!THAT'S RIGHT!

David Kimball.

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 12:38:00 -0500 
From: Liz Fox <lf01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: SB: Rick reports on the mini-con.
	<C1HJw8.LF7@acsu.buffalo.edu>

On 26-Jan-93 in Re: SB: Rick reports on the..
user Jennifer I Matthews@ubvm writes:
>In article <93021.124057NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>, NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET
(Nelson Broat
>) writes...
>> Curt, Gidget, basement, blanket, hmm.....
>Wait a minute, never was there mentioned Gidget with 
>the other three.  It was Gidget, upstairs, sleeping by
>herself.  
> 
> 
>--Gidget (trying to post from a friends account)
>glb3833@sjfc.edu
> 


Nelson- LEAVE MY LITTLE SISTER ALONE!  OK?  NOTHING HAPPENED.  Curt
explained it.  Gidget explained it.  IF you continue to besmirch the
good Peel name - I'll have to take drastic measures.

NOW CUT IT OUT!

-An Angry Banana (Liz)
From: daveo@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Dave Ochs)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: Crimes Against Women and Children
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:33:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvra.231850014
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA

>/ hpcvra:rec.arts.tv.soaps / robin@ntmtv.UUCP (Robin Coutellier) /  6:54 pm  Jan 24, 1993 /
>
>Maybe this is not the right group for this, but the subject is being
>discussed, so I'll join in.  This is a subject that has been on my mind 
>for a long time.  I have a theory that by the time a woman reaches the 
>age of 20, she has probably been the victim of some form of sexual activity 
>without her consent or has been followed in a threatening manner.  She has 
>been:

[sobering list deleted]

I appreciate your post and the replies ... I am sure it is impossible for
us men to understand how this must feel, since we have (on the whole) not
been the targets of harassment and abuse as often.  It is horrible that
women have been, and continue to be, victims because of their (on the 
average) lesser physical strength, but even more because of the attitude
men have towards them.  I hope that mothers of the 90's will handle the
situations you described differently than your mother did ... no one
deserves to be harassed or taken advantage of ... period.

I also realize that men have been the victims of some/all of these areas ... 
I myself could claim one, possible two, of these categories as having
happened to me.

>Didn't mean to carry on so much, but this is a subject that really gets
>me riled up.

You certainly have nothing to apologize for ... it is a subject that 
deserves getting riled up about.
 
>Robin Coutellier                   

Dave Ochs (daveo@cv.hp.com)
Hewlett-Packard, Corvallis OR
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From: jdale@vstn1.math.uoknor.edu 
Subject: GH - Dom & Scott
Originator: news@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:21:00 GMT
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Mathematics Computer Network, University of Oklahoma

***Well, once again I have to say that I am upset with the writers.  I 
really hate what they are doing with Dom and Scott.  

I thought Dom's scene with Tony when he told her the tumor could not
be operated on was extremely touching.  I hate to see this happening
to them when they are so happy.  Can't anyone be happy for at least a
year?  I know there are plenty of other characters to pick on.

The end of the show today,1/21, was very well done.  The song they used
with the visuals of Dom/Scott, Mac/Felicia, really fit well.  Anyone
know the song's artist?

One question.  Why would anyone buy a robe with shoulder pads???  Lucy's
robe at the end of the show had them.  That, I found humor in.

I also liked the mud fight between Tracy and Jenny.  This story line is
definitly due for more humor than tragedy.

                               ***j.
From: june@Cadence.COM (June Petersen)
Subject: Re:  DOOL: TAN: A new Peel in the Family! 
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 22:13:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.081355.13111@waikato.ac.nz> ccc_sheree@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.131816.27693@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, mjheal@bnr.ca (MJ Heal) writes:
>> In article <1993Jan8.232003.20895@Cadence.COM>, june@Cadence.COM (June Petersen) writes:
>> |> (Sis Bananna), it appears I have a legitimate claim
>> |> to belong to the Peel Sisterhood.
>> 
>> 	Oh wow,  another sister!!  Welcome to the clan Garlic.  So,
>> 	tell us, who is your father??  Enquiring minds need to know.
>
>
>	Yes - do tell . Being one of your more inquisitive sisters I NEED to
>know.

The question of my paternity has weighed heavily on my mind
for quite some time.  I have probed my earliest memories,
and have come to some conclusions.  I *do* remember  Mom,
but very vaguely, so I suspect I was taken from the family
fold at an early age (probably something to do with super     
secret spy stuff).  My earliest memories are of growing up
in a boisterous Italian family, but of not completley
belonging.  I remember "Uncle Steed" visiting upon 
occasion, and I vaguely remember on one of his last
visits, him commenting on the "Great and Unusual Dynasty"
I belonged to, that I would rediscover at the appropriate
time.  I *KNOW* for a fact that Stefano is *not* my
father (though that is a logical conclusion, due to my
name/upbringing) because then I would be guilty of harboring
incestuous thoughts about my "brother" Tony.

My current "best guess"?  I'm the illegitemate offspring
of a superspy alliance between Mom and the *real* 007 
(the one from the first batch o'films).  It would
explain not only my "hiding" with the Italian family,
but also my propensity for spelling things with
extra "u"s, and my great affection for guns and
knives....(insert James Bond Sneaky Music here).

If any of my new, dear sisters have any thoughts on
this matter, feel free to share 'em, and I'll comment
when I finally see the ideas, in a couple of weeks, 
when the newsfeed catches up (whine, whine, whine).

I'm also way behind on DOOL watching (like I have the
past week and a half on tape, and I'll be trying to
catch up this weekend) (me and my trusty FF).  SO
that's why I haven't been ranting on what a horrible
actress Gnarly is, what silly storylines TPTB are
writing, or how I'd like to toss Billie into the 
Salem River.  And I figure, if I stay a while behind
on DOOL, I'll have "extra time" with SSH on...

TTFN,
Garlic

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From: kudra@hubcap.clemson.edu (sallie j kudra)
Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN: Happy Birthday
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:19:10 GMT

lf01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Liz Fox) writes:



>Happy Birthday to you!
>Happy Birthday to you!
>Happy Birthday dear Naughty Nectarine!
>Happy Birthday to you!

>(And I didn't even mention which BIG birthday it was!!!)

>Have a great one

>Love,

>The Big Banana



>       %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>       Liz Fox    Carnegie Mellon Fine Arts    lf01@andrew.cmu.edu  
>                   %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%                         
>              I want a full house and a rock 'n' roll band
>                  Pens that won't run out of ink,
>                      and cool quiet and time to think...   
>              Shouldn't I have this? Shouldn't I have this?
>                  Shouldn't I have all this and ......
>                      Passionate Kisses from you....
>                              *Mary-Chapin Carpenter
>                   %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%   

Thank you Big B.  I have been having a wonderful time.  All those teeny-boppers
out there have no idea what they are missing.

The Naughty One


Tight pants and lipstick                           | Sallie J. Kudra, P/A III
She's ridin' on a razor's edge                     | Info. Systems Development
She holds her own against the boys                 | Clemson Univ. Clemson,SC
Cuts thru the crowd just like a wedge - Sammy Hagar| kudra@hubcap.clemson.edu
From: sbookey@ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Character glut
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:16:27 GMT
Reply-To: sbookey@ep.ieee.org
Organization: IEEE, New York, NY

I guess the best thing about Joey was that he was such an idiot and a rather
true to life teenager.  And, it brought out the meddler in Ruth, which I only
witnessed her doing to Charlie and Joey.  She was goin' nuts that year.

I thought it was funny but annoying how Joey was gaga over Emily Ann, and when
he finally got her, was hot for Katie.  Too many Kennicots.
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From: lavergne@bnr.ca (Marc Lavergne)
Subject: Re: Y&R - Michael
Reply-To: lavergne@bnr.ca (Marc Lavergne)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:57:12 GMT

In article <C19p24.BFu@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>, ktomlin@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Keith P. Tomlin) writes:
|> Here is a trivial question, but something is bothering me about this and
|> I want to see if anyone else noticed this, or if I imagined it. . .
|>  
|> Remember when Nikki and Victor got divorced?  Is it my imagination, or
|> was Victor's lawyer Michael Baldwin?  This was way before the Michael/Cricket
|> story-line appeared, but I distinctly remember Michael visiting Nikki
|> at the Ranch.  (or was he Nikki's lawyer??)
|>  

Michael Baldwin was contacted directly by Jack Abbott. He then went
over to the ranch to talk to both Nikki and Jack. I believe Jack called
him because Victor had filed a petition to remove 'The Boy' from Nikki's
guardianship because of her alcohol abuse. 'The Boy' being Nicolas.
From: 6357940@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: AMC: sick of Dixie's Whining(sp)
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 10:58:57 PST

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
>I am sick of Dixie pining away over Junior...and when she has him she is never
>with him.

>Does anyone else see that....she can't wait to see him but as soon as she gets
>him...she sends him upstairs to play...or has company and visits with them
>and not him....or sends him off for a snack!

I noticed that yesterday (1-26).  Everytime Jr. is there (and yesterday she
only had him for two hours), she has company (Palmer and Opal) and sends him
off to play in his room.  Also--is it believable that she violated the court
order about Brian AGAIN?  Ditsy--please get a brain!

Carole Kever
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From: aleta@cs.cornell.edu (Aleta Ricciardi)
Subject: Re: AMC: Character glut
Organization: Cornell University, CS Dept., Ithaca, NY
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:01:55 GMT

In article <231850009@hpcvra.cv.hp.com>, daveo@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Dave Ochs) writes:
|> >/ hpcvra:rec.arts.tv.soaps / sbookey@ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey) /  1:16 pm  Jan 21, 1993 /
|> >I guess the best thing about Joey was that he was such an idiot and a rather
|> >true to life teenager.  And, it brought out the meddler in Ruth, which I only
|> >witnessed her doing to Charlie and Joey.  She was goin' nuts that year.
|> 
|> It seems that meddling is Ruths only vice :-) and she hasn't been doing
|> much of it lately ... maybe she'll start up again when Tad returns.  I
|> figure Joey should be done with med school about a year from June, and be
|> back in PV for his residency.

this brings up one of those inherently ioas twists.  i mean, here's tad,
back from the dead (hmmm was he touring with the band? seein a few shows
at the coliseum?? :).  joey's `brother' for cryin out loud, and i bet no
one even mentions joey when tad is finally revealed and healed.  not even
the mention of a phone call to poor joey to tell him his brother's alive!

	aleta
From: johnson@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Karen Johnson Morgan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: update for 01/18
Date: 21 Jan 1993 09:20:54 -0600
Organization: U. Texas Center for Space Research
NNTP-Posting-Host: emx.cc.utexas.edu
Keywords: Are we there yet?

In article <1993Jan18.215131.22522@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> dwv@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Dave Vollman) writes:
>
>	E hightails it back into her room, jettesons the lovely
>	biege heels she was wearing and crawls into bed.

I was OTF!!!!  Seeing Erica running back to bed in her hospital gown
and high heels was just TOO MUCH!  Reminded me of one of MEK's jokes
last Sat. about Susan Lucci's height:  "She's the only woman I know
who wears high heels to bed."  I guess it wasn't a joke after all.

>9) What is the name of the park across from the Hospital?

Chicken Fingers Park?

It was interesting to know from this show that the park is *also* by
Dixie's house!  Did you notice when Jack told Brian that he had
left Dixie in the park, Brian asked, "The one by her house?"  I
thought Jack was gonna say, "No, the one by the hospital."  No wonder
she can get to the hospital so quickly.  And all this time we thought
it was the teletransporter....

Karen

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From: patricia@pete.uucp (Patricia Peterson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: OLT: SOD - VCR alert
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 06:57:58 -0800
Reply-To: patricia%pete%nicmad%astroatc.uucp@spool.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: My system in Madison WI



This was in this months SOD:

"Does OLTL's Asa have anything to say to Blair, other than "See you
in court"?  Find out on Tuesday, January 26, when their divorce 
trial comes to a shocking conclusion.  Now that Cain, Luna, Max and
all the other witnesses have had thier say, the judge will have his.
Will Blair get the settlement she's looking for, or will she wind up
penniless - just like Asa wants her to be."  

"Then on Friday, January 29, the BUchannans are in for the surprise of
their lives.  The divorce proceedings will seem like ancient hisotry
as Asa and his family are hit by a very unexpected turn of events.
How will they cope with the results?"


Patricia

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From: giordano@andromeda.rutgers.edu (E. Giordano)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: B & B
Date: 22 Jan 93 00:33:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

diane@greenland.island.COM writes:

>As part of my pre-updates I would like to add something I forgot to post in
>yesterdays prediction of future updates.

>Stephanie is hesitant to have blood drawn for this test because she knows 
>that a genetic panel will reveal that Ridge is NOT Eric's kid, and that she
>just used Ridge to entrap Eric into a marriage, knowing he was in love with 
>Beth and would never marry her.

>Brooke is going to have fun torturing Stephanie with this blood test thing.

>Let's get some other pre-updates going so that Jim Acker doesn't feel alone....


>-- 
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>SoapBox Radio Program - KSRO - 1350 AM - Santa Rosa, CA - Sat 1:00pm PST
>"More time is spent watching soaps than sports" -- me


Again I must have missed something, why IS Stephanie having a blood
test? She is not involved in the paternity question
From: mike@scbked.larc.nasa.gov (Michael S warner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: ATWT: Family Tree?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 01:30:26 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: scbked.larc.nasa.gov

In article <1993Jan25.204835.28173@news.stolaf.edu> newell@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Laura Isabella) writes:
>Hello!
>
>I just discovered rats and love it! Thanks to all of you who

Welcome, welcome, welcome!  In honor of your arroval in the Ward, we
men have prepared a "special celebration" for you.  Come by the linen
closet at 11 pm tomorrow and we'll have ...uh...cake and ice cream...yeah
that's it.  And don't pay any attention to the man with the electric
pickle.  That's just stever, coming off his appointment with Special K.

[Request to start Family Tree deleted]

I'd be more than willing to contribute the knowledge remaining in 
my head about Yuckdale history, but Irish, Goddess of Trivia, is
a better source.  I'm sure that if you start such a project, any blanks
you need filled in will be filled most graciously by about 10 of us if you
ask.   

>Thanks in advance!                               
>
>laura isabella

We'll have to think up something good for a nickname, but we need more 
intimate information about you :-)

EtTuMike

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From: jarnolde@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (John Arnolde)
Subject: Re: SB: Davies vs Thomson
Keywords: POLL
Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, University of Wisconsin
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 20:37:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.210822.29022@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> saj@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.suravlas) writes:
>
>In order not to let things die out, not yet at least, let's take a poll.
>Who do we think was a better Mason, was it Lane Davies or Gordon
>Thomson?
>
>I'll keep track of the votes and post the results.
>
>John
>
Thompson, no problem.  How about some of the others?  Wright? Garland? Davidson?
Any of the other characters that were replaced??  Santana's, C.C.?  Ted? Warren?


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