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From: sramalin@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: STORY # 7
Date: 24 Dec 92 12:03:42 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

                         THE DREAM THAT MATERIALISED
                         ---------------------------
                                                    Author Unknown

Subbisetty is very rich. He has his business, and agricultural lands. But he
never threw his hands at the poor. He is such a miser, that he didnot trust
even his own wife and kept the keys of cashbox with him always. He cannot sleep
without those keys tucked under his waist.

One night he had a dream. An unseen voice spoke to him thus." Setti, if you 
spend one hundred gold pieces in charity, you will get a thousand back. !!"
After weighing the pros and cons with his wife setti decided to spend hundred
coins in charity. he fed the poor with that money. Unexpectedly a distant
relative of Setty died and as that relative had no heirs, all that belonged to
that fellow became Settis. So Setti relly became richer by thousand coins.
Setti became happy beyond measure.

One other night, Setti had a second dream. Again an unseen voice spoke " Setti
if you donate thousand gold coins, you will get ten thousand back !!". Now
Setti did not consult anyone and started spending thousand in charity. His
uncle suddenly died, leaving Setti ten thousand plus pieces of gold. Setti is
extremely happy. This dreams repeated three or four times and everytime Setti
made some charity, after listening to the unseen voice in his dream, he became
richer by the promised amount.

One fine night, Setti's wife got a dream. An unseen voice spoke : " If you
donate one lack pices of gold, you will be richer by ten lack !!!". She told 
Setti of this and told him that she doesnot believe in dreams or anything of
that sort. But Setti insisted she donate one lack pieces of gold. So she made
the charity of one lack pieces of gold.

Suddenly Setti died and as promised, Setti's wife became richer by ten lack
pieces of gold !!!  Even now the dream had materialised !!!
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From: Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@launchpad.unc.edu (Veeramany Sthanumurthy)
Subject: Re: SCI and Indian women : Incongruent entities??
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:37:36 GMT

Before leaving on my pilgrimage to the Holy Land I had wondered
about losing touch with SCI. Wish fulfilled. There seems to be -
well whatever is hidden amidst all the venom and vitriol is quite
well hidden - precious little to relate to, except for these periodic
postings lamenting the lack of quality/female participation as in:

In article <199212290255.AA20488@mp.cs.niu.edu> t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu 
(Bijoy Sagar) writes:
>
>It really suprises me that this newsgroup is almost completely devoid
>of women. I know that atleast 20% of all Indian students in the US 
>are female, and yet barring a handful of exceptions, all the posters are
>male. 
[...]
>On the other token, I would think that any of us who may complain about
>the lack of direction or substance in this newsgroup should take charge and
>try to elevate SCI to be more readable.

Please email me when this happens.

I seem to have a bootstrapping(?) problem. With new newsgroups, I tend to 
skim through till I find a couple of posters whose participation in thread(s)
justifies following the thread. With SCI, in the last couple of months this
has been out of the question.

Sthan.
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From: sguha@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Saumyen Guha)
Subject: Re: Please Make me Bengali [ Bengali culture for net.bhadraloks] -- Icarus.
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 04:07:17 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.020843.11936@udel.edu> godura@hercules.cis.udel.edu (Ruchir Godura) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.025447.27626@colorado.edu> paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Atharvan) writes:
>>So many reasons to be a bengali, at least a honorary one.
>>Do I have to count more reasons ?
>8B theke boshe paanchjoner shonge lemon chaa aar feeltar hooeels 
>kheyecho ?
>10 ghonta bekaar boshe aantellectual kotha kore kore thek merecho ?
>Evaluate yourself now ! :-)
Eta Thik Hochche na guru and guri ra!
Aamra 8B thek e boshi ni , Kintu aamader B.E. College  first Gate er
Tarun Dar Thek kom jaye kishe? Majhe Majhe GB, Noyto Andul road e
Sardarjir dokan. Lovers Lane er thek. Oval, Lords e rater adda.
Kothay sob BE Colleger gulo. 

Checha betara(also betira) :-)

   
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From: sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman )
Subject: Re: soc.culture.lang.bengali
Followup-To: poster
Organization: ASU, Valley of the Sun(s), AZ
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:25:57 GMT

[Followups to poster]

shubu@cs.wisc.edu (Shubhendu S. Mukherjee) writes:

)banerjee@hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee) writes:
)SB> 3. Sci.lang.bengali should address the need (with which I disagree) to have
)
)I propose the name {alt,soc}.culture.lang.bengali.  Cut out the Indian portion 
)from it.  

sci is _not_ soc.culture.indian. It is science!

)-Shubu

Sridhar.
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From: banerjee@aludra.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: New newsgroup proposal : alt.culture.bengali
Date: 27 Dec 92 19:24:32 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <SHUBU.92Dec27110725@green.cs.wisc.edu> shubu@cs.wisc.edu (Shubhendu S. Mukherjee) writes:

>> I dont think that this is too much to ask for, considering that there
>> have been several dissenting voices who have already expressed themselves 
>> on the net. Without this referendum, ACB will be a another newsgroup
>> thrust at us by a coterie to satisfy whatever personal reasons that they
>> might have for it's creation.
>> I hope the people pushing for ACB are listening,
		      ^^^^^^^

>To create any newsgroup (even for alt newsgroups), you need a discussion round>and then a round for collecting votes.  

Yes, that's what I was asking for. A simple referendum, even though I am
under no illusions that it will be not be carried.


>By the way Samit, looks like you are already under the impression that 
>only very few people want this newsgroup even before the referendum you have
>asked for has taken place.  Isn't it time to be politically correct (your 
>use of word 'pushing' says it all)?

As in any event of this nature, it is one person who proposes the idea,
is supported initially by a few others and then they come to represent the 
coterie that throws it's weight behind the formation of the newsgroup.

My use of the word "pushing" did not have any Machiavellian connotations.
Starting with Soc.culture.tamil, there has been a domino effect in terms 
of splintering SCI for language based newsgroups and even though I do not
agree with the principle, I am not foolish enough to delude myself into
believing that there is less than widespread support for ACB. Yes, I agree 
with you that more than "a few people" may be tacitly extending their
support. In fact I have received mail from several quarters which makes
such a contention justifiable.

Having said that, my initial concerns about ACB have not been sufficiently
redressed to allow me to take any more than a passing interest in the formation
of such a newsgroup. Briefly stated they are as follows:

1. I do not see why we cannot have a listserver type of a mailed newsletter
which would allow us to test the feasibility of the project and the
presence or lack of interest. If there is sufficient interest beyond the
initial euphoria, a new newsgroup will be justified.

2. What prevents ACB from becoming another flame war intensive, my religion-
better-than-your religion type of a newsgroup allowing vested interests to
proselytize their propaganda? It seems to me that the merits of a moderated
newsgroup has not been sufficiently explored. 


Samit

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Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:41959 soc.culture.bangladesh:7085
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Shaping of Bengali Culture
Date: 25 Dec 1992 15:55:37 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: jane.uh.edu

>
>>in my view the true culture of Bengal has rural,
>>not urban,  roots , and is inalienably related to the wonderful and
>>unbroken continuum of folk culture, as represented in the works of 
>>the 'baul' and 'bhatiyali' muicians, and Baru Chandidas, Dwija 
>>Chandidas,  Ramprasad Sen, Lalan Fakir and others.
>
>What constitutes an acceptable definition of "true" Bengali culture is
>open to interpretation. It might suffice to say however, that your
>definition of "true" culture may be reprehensible for me and visa versa.
>Any culture by it's very existence has multiple facets and several 
>dimensions. It is only the most narrow minded and dogmatic individual
>who claims a particular side of that culture which suits his vested
>interests, as the final word. 
There is no such thing as "true" or "false" culture. Culture is a multi-faceted
gem. Unfortunately one cannot take part in everyhing that constitutes a
culture. So he picks and chooses what suits him best. I have also heard that
"true" Rabindranath can only be found in Russiar Chitthi [Letters from Russia:
where Rabindranath commended the social projects undertaken by the communists
but did not fail to warn that you can neglect human spirit only at your own
peril] and "true" Vedas is what teaches class struggle. And as they failed to
quench this "bhadralok" culture which is embodied in Rabindranath; they had
to dilute the celebrations by combining Najrul with it: thereby diminishing
both Najrul and Rabindranath. And then they talk about narrow minded views!!!!
Yes narrow minded views which throws Sakharov and Solzheistsin out of their
country and makes Gorky all in all of Russian literature.
Arindam
From: an3919@anon.penet.fi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: new newsgroup alt.culture.bengali
Date: 27 Dec 92 01:23:21 GMT
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.indian




	>I am proposing the creation of a new newsgroup called alt.culture.bengali.
	>This newsgroup is intented to be a place to discuss Bengali language,
	>literature and other aspects of Bengali culture.


		stuff deleted .......

	>
	>Draft charter of the newsgroup
	>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	>
	>This new newsgroup is mainly intented to discuss:
	>(a) The structure and construction of Bengali language
	>(b) growth of Bengali language in post-independent India
	>(c) The literature of Bengali people
	>(d) The men of letters.
	>(e) Bengali language and transliteration.
	>(f) Dialects, deviants and schools within the language.
	>(g) Other art media that use Bengali language.
	>(h) Bengali cultural institutions
	>(i) Politics of power and the language.
	>(j) Any other topic of relative merit and interest.
	>
		What about Bangladeshi language?

	>
	>I hope I will receive a favorable response.
	>
	>- Bijoy Sagar

	I think that this group should be welcomed. I vote YES for the creation of this newsgroup.

	- Joydeep Mitra         

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From: vr@cs.brown.edu (Viswanath Ramachandran)
Subject: Religious Texts of Hinduism
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: Hinduism, Ramayana, Gita
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:12:15 GMT

Where in USA is it possible for me to buy books like Ramayana etc. ? 
Preferably by mail-order. 

Thanks.
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From: crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD))
Subject: Re: Read before criticizing sati
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 18:08:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.202357.25192@ryn.mro4.dec.com> verma@pfeast.enet.dec.com (Virendra Verma) writes:
>
>	rarely came across any posting on the witch-killings. I simply
>	thought to remind those curious and concrned audiences that
>	murder or crime is not unique to Hindus. My posting does serve
>	the purpose that the murder is not a unique Hindu phenomenon.
>-- Virendra

Does anyone really believe that murder and crime are unique to Hindus?
Hardly.  From the West's exposure to India through movies like Gandhi, and
Ravi Shankar's influence on the Beatles etc, westerners probably have the
opposite stereotype of Hindus as placid, spiritual people who are one with
the universe etc, and are have a lower predisposition to violence.
Don't be so paranoid V.

Ed

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From: chandra@cannelloni.cis.ohio-state.edu (B Chandrasekaran)
Subject: Re: India's Place in the World Economy
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 00:34:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.050339.13395@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>,
a74k110@phobos.ucc.umass.edu writes:
>
> 
> Well, the projected growth rate for this year is ~6% and as the reforms
> take hold I expect it to go even higher.  Also, as I said in my original
> post, why does the Asian Bank say Indian has the 9th largest industrial
> economy?

I have always wondered how much the ranking is inflated due to the method
of calculation.  If the rupee value of industrial goods produced in 
India is addep up and converted to dollars, the amount will certainly
look impressive, but the procedure wouldn't recognize the fact that
the goods would bring much less that amount in the international market.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: DEEPAK BOSE KI HINDU L*** KI AISE TAISE
Date: 31 Dec 92 06:52:45 GMT
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From: lakshmip@plains.NoDak.edu (Chandrasekar Lakshmipathi)
Subject: Question. Going to India on Practical Training with H1 papers
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:30:28 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Hi netters,
	A friend of mine is on practical training and has his H1 papers on
hand. He wants to know if it is safe(!) for him to go to Canada and get his
multiple entry or get it in India (he is going to India to get married).
	Thanks in advance for the replies. Excuse me if this is an FAQ.
-Shekar

		lakshmip@plains.nodak.edu
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From: msastry@oracle.uucp (Mahabala Sastry)
Subject: REQUEST FOR HELP WITH MULTIPLE H-1
Reply-To: msastry@oracle.uucp (Mahabala Sastry)
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Belmont, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:24:52 GMT
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              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

This is for a friend. Send replies to him at vibhu@compass-da.com
(but I can forward the replies to him)

My friend (who is presently on H1) is planning to go to Mexico for 
H1 multiple visa and would like to know the situation there. He wants 
the info regarding the American Embassy at Tijuana and Juarez. 
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^    ^^^^^^^     ^^^^^^
Specifically, he would like to know:

1. What are the documents and forms needed? 

2. How difficult/easy is it now to get the H1 multiple entry visa at 
   these two places?
   
3. Do these embassy process H1 multiple entry applications all days? 
   What about the timings? (He is planning to go there on 31st Dec)
   
4. What are the directions to get to the US embassy at these cities?

5. Any other related experiences or advise.

Thanks a lot.
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From: sivabala@faraday.ee.washington.edu (Siva Bala Narayanan)
Subject: Can GOI rebuild the mosque?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:48:04 GMT




Just a curious question. Given the facts that India is constitutionally
secular and that the constitution takes precedence over the parliament,
does the Indian constitution have provisions that allow the Central
Government to build religious places of worship?

Can some constitution "dhaadhaa" clarify my doubt?

Siva

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From: sr0@engr24.uark.edu (RAJAN SANJAY)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Cricket: English Team is Ready to Go....
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:44:10 GMT
Organization: University of Arkansas

>
>    ENGLAND IN INDIA AND  SRI LANKA:  
>03 Jan v Ranji champions (3 days) Faridabad. 
>08 Jan v Indian Board President's XI (3) Kanpur. 
>13 Jan v Indian Board President's XI (1) Indore. 
>16 Jan First one-day international, Ahmedabad. 
>18 Jan Second one-day international, Jaipur. 
>21 Jan Third one-day international, Delhi or Chandigarh. 
>23 Jan v Indian Under- 25 (3) Cuttack. 
>29 Jan FIRST TEST, Calcutta. 
>05 Feb v Rest of India XI (3) Vishakhapatnam. 
>11 Feb SECOND TEST, Madras. 
>19 Feb THIRD TEST, Bombay. 
>26 Feb Fourth one-day international, Bangalore. 
>01 Mar Fifth one-day international, Jamshedpur. 
>05 Mar Sixth one-day international, Delhi. 
>
>10 Mar First one-day international, Colombo (day/night). 
>13 Mar TEST, Colombo. 
>20 Mar Second one-day international,Moratuwa.
From: hsulaima@skat.usc.edu (Hidayathullah Sulaiman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: DEB CHATTERJEE KA G*** ME LATH MARO MERE MUSLIM BHAIO
Date: 1 Jan 1993 13:35:55 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

In article <1992Dec31.210646.14069@fuug.fi> an3925@anon.penet.fi writes:
>ABE DEB CHATTERJEE SALA KANSAS BAGH GIYA. I INFORM MSA NET AGAIN.
>YOU GET THREAT FROM SAUDI ARABIA AGAIN :))))))))))
>
>I LET KNOW MSA NET IN KANSAS CITY, WICHITA AND LAWRENCE.
>ALL ISLAMIC BROTHERS WILL RISE AND G*** ME LAATH TO KAFIR DEB.
>
>
>DEB CHATTERJEE KI MA KI G** ME HAATI KA L*** :-)))))))
>
>HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!
>
>MUSTAFA IBRAHIM 
>
>imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu

This Mustafa idiot needs to be taught about the anon service. 
Signing an anonymous mail. Ha Ha Ha.


Learn some decent language. Don't they teach that in Pakistan?
Wash your mouth with bleach detergent before writing.


Bewakoof Mustafa, you are the kalank on the names of all the Muslims in 
the world. We Indian Muslims love our Hindu brothes and sisters. 
Assholes like you try to spoil our relations with our good and kind
countrymen. My dear ass, Go wipe your ass on s.c.p not on s.c.i.

Jai Hind.
Hamara Bharat Mahaan.


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From: shubu@cs.wisc.edu (Shubhendu S. Mukherjee)
Subject: Re: Alt.culture.bengal
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin @ Madison, CS Dept.
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 15:22:00 GMT


>>>>> In article <Dec.23.22.22.07.1992.26572@paul.rutgers.edu>, varma@paul.rutgers.edu (not yet) writes:

>>>>>> In article <199212240126.AA05216@mp.cs.niu.edu>, t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu (Bijoy Sagar) writes:

BS> when do we have our own alt.culture.bangla newsgroup? I think
BS> it is overdue.  While many of these newsgroups such as a.c.tamil
BS> are used for people-bashing, we could use a.c.b to talk about
BS> the poetry and culture of Bengali society, especially of the
BS> last century. Any takers?

HV> Bangla is the national language of Bangladesh.
HV> Therefore if you wish to discuss 'poetry and culture of Bengali
HV> society' then soc.culture.bangladesh is an appropriate newsgroup. 
...
HV> Tell you what, you and the other 'takers' create a country for
HV> yourselves. Then the demand will look legitimate. (And let me assure
HV> you that you will have ample support because there will be many like
HV> me who would prefer not to share a newsgroup with myopic creatures
HV> like you).

A perfectly nonsensical reply to a mild and polite request.  Watch your 
foul mouth, Harsh.  As I had said before a little more respect on SCI
would make it a better newsgroup, which we would all like to read without
adding a zillion lines to our kill file. 

Luck!
-Shubu





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From: nkbrahma+@pitt.edu (Niranjan K Brahma)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Good News for India
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:12:43 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


	Where did you get this "good news" from ? From your mother ?


NKB

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From: kavuri@lips2.ecn.purdue.edu (Surya N Kavuri )
Subject: Re: SCI and Indian women : Incongruent entities??
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:04:40 GMT

In article <199212290255.AA20488@mp.cs.niu.edu>, t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu (Bijoy Sagar) writes:
> 
> 
> 
> Perhaps the vitriolic postings...
>  have been too acerbic...
> the intellectual pubescence...
> too putrid... 
>
> - Bijoy Sagar

   Say, did you rack up a real good GRE score ?
   I think, on an average, "the vitriolic postings" on SCI are about
   as "acerbic" as yours.  Perhaps, it is because each "intellectual"
   asserts himself by referring to the "intellect" of others as
   "pubescent" and "putrid".
   
   The reason women don't post could be simple - they don't bother to.
   

   Surya Kavuri

    


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