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From: maguire@zappa.jpl.nasa.gov (Kevin Maguire)
Subject: Terror, Inc. (was: Re: What if... (Sleepwalker and what should go))
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:52:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.132737.14378@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>,
jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore) wrote:
> Am I the only one who has noticed that Terror is the exact same character
> as a Shadowline (ST. GEORGE) character named Schrek? Same appearance, same
> personality, same powers (In WOLVERINE, he even referred to the wrestler
> that he got his metal hand from--one of the supporting characters from
> POWER LINE!)

This is definitely the same character.  In on eof the first few issues he
talks about how he has been known by many names, such as:  (counts off list
of synonyms for "terror" in different languages, including Schreck).

Whether this means we'll see other Shadowline characters in the Marvel 
Universe, I don't know.  Hopefully we WON'T see Quasar arranging a New
Universe/Shadowline crossover anytime soon.  If we do, and it's written 
by Chichester, its pretty much guaranteed that HYDRA will be involved - 
what is this thing he has for HYDRA?  In his books they take the place of
Spiderman, the Punisher and Wolverine for mandatory guest appearances.

I'm glad the Shadowline books went out with the bang that they did.  The
individual books tended to swing wildly in quality, but _Critical Mass_
was great.

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From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Request: Fantasy Titles
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 02:02:34 GMT

omni@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Omniscient fool) writes:
>Come on guys, no one has mentioned the longest running fantasy
>title around: Conan.  Just cause it's rarely any good is no
>excuse.  There is also Savage Sword of Conan, there was once
>a King Conan book, there have been several Red Sonia books, 
>and yet more Marvel Howard basied stuff like Kull.

Savage Sword with the right people involved is one of my favorite
titles. 
-- 
My other wife is beautiful.
From: jdelacr@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Jorge DeLaCruz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Did Ya' Notice in Future Imperfect
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:53:15 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <lks23vINNjki@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> khale@camilla.Eng.Sun.COM (Abhijit Khale) writes:
>There's also an urn labelled "She", which seems to me to be a reference
>to a rather terrible film about some amazons in a postnuclear future
>(the name itself is derived from a Rider Haggard novel). 
>
 there is also a Marvel Character She, it could be her too, or you could be 
 right.

>Also, theres the strip of garment on the roof, just behind the Wizard's
>helmet, which looks a bit like Donna Troy's costume (which Perez
>designed). I can't think offhand  of any Marvel character with
>a costume like that [ stars in the costume ]. 
>
   Quasars Cape has Stars in it too.


>Minor nitpick : Are these the real things or merely models ? Some like
>Wolverine's skeleton or Cap's shield certainly look real (Cap's shield
>is undented, unlike US Agent's shield, which is destroyed). How did
>Rick move Thor's hammer ?  Wouldn't Big Daddy Odin want it back ? Why
>dont the rebels use some of the artifacts as weapons ? This holds
>in particular for things like Cap's Shield, the Black Knights Ebony Sword, 
>or the Absorbing Man's ball and chain. 
>
   For one the Ebony Blade was Broken, and maybe it is Thunderball's Ball and
  Chain (Wrecking Crew).


>And there's Rick's comment : "Now if I had a giant penny ..", which
>should be caught by any Batfan. 
>
From: tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Lucien's Library
Date: 5 Jan 93 01:56:47 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
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Here's some more things:

The Alan Moore/Alan Davis Batman/Judge Dredd;

Judge Dredd the Movie (pref. without Arnie)

Isaac Asimov's 400th science essay for _Fantasy & Science Fiction_;

the _Fugitive_'s final episode (as far as I remember it never
ended);

the _Time Tunnel_ final episode (you know, the crossover with
_Quantum Leap_!);

the Colin Baker/Sylvester McCoy regeneration story in _Dr. Who_;

the complete series of _The Prisoner_ (not the network-abridged
series);

Ralph Bakshi's complete _Lord of the Rings_ trilogy;

all of Cole Porter's recordings after World War II;

Richard Burton's Oscar acceptance speech; and

_The Brady Bunch move to Elm Street_ movie (oh, I'm being silly
here!)

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From: cedwards@worldbank.org (Charles Edwards, 885/58, Hb2-013, 32166)
Subject: Re: Did Ya' Notice in Future Imperfect
Reply-To: cedwards@worldbank.org
Organization: The World Bank
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:10:18 GMT

>
>For the real eagle eyes, perhaps you can find some things I missed.
>

Look at the shelf just below the Bottle City of Kandor. That's Wonder Woman's tiara.
From: berninge@cs.purdue.edu (James Berninger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Ways around Supes' invulnerability?(was re:cloning)
Date: 11 Jan 1993 10:20:57 -0500
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University
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ibanez@ac.dal.ca writes:
>   Maybee I shouldn't be getting into this, seeing as I don't read the Superman
>titles...  what the hell...
>
>I thought that post Byrne Supes' invulnerability came in part from some kind
>of forcefield he generated. If he is dead, is it still operational? If not, 
>I think those Cadmus boys could get a cell sample.
It has already been stated (in early Byrne issues) that, if Superman
were kept in complete darkness for about three days, he would be
vulnerable.  It has also been stated that his invulnerability comes
from a bio-chemical aura.  In other words, I think all of his
individual cells would have to die (from lack of oxygen, most
probably), before he would be vulnerable enough to be scaped by a
knife.  Currently, he could probably not withstand a nuclear
explosion (as he did in Superman #9), but I think his
invulnerability is waning.  Give it time...

>What the *$#*$ happended to Doomsday? Is he dead? Maybee we could grab one
>of his claws (or spikes, or whatver they were) to scrape a sample of Supes.
You may not be able to get *just* claws, since he was more-or-less
invulnerable, too.  Still, you raise a good point...

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From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: MISC: I'm bored - gimme something to read
Date: 8 Jan 93 07:30:14 GMT
Organization: Victoria University of Technology

jrd@frame.com (James Drew) writes:

>Was it the continued plotlines (this wraps up several previous ones), the
>sexual orientation of the lead character, the woodblock-style artwork, or
>what.  The first of these can be resolved by judicious acquisition of recent
>back issues (especially, I believe, 10, 13, and 15), and purchase of the
>trade paperback collection of #4-6.  The third is something you'll have to
>get used to.  The second is something you'll have to get over, or move to
>Colorado.

I didn't read it carefully (I didn't buy it), I just scanned
through it. The artwork seemed okay to me, nothing spectacular
but okay.

>No, you should be replacing comics that don't interest you with ones that
>do.  Now that there's no Superman titles for a few months, you have excess
>funds.  And you may find that you don't really miss the titles you don't buy.
>(That's the sure proof, isn't: I dropped the X-men titles and Doom Patrol as a
>test of the theory; I came back to Doom Patrol, but X-Men and Uncanny X-Men
>are long gone.)

I don't collect any titles that do not interest me. I have never
bought a Superman title and that includes the `Death of....' 
storyline. I only buy one Marvel: X-Factor. I buy a few DCs:
Sandman, Animal Man. I will be buying a fair bit of the Vertigo
titles, or at least trying them. I also buy Cerebus, Bone, Hepcats,
A Distant Soil, Spawn and others. I don't have any excess funds.

Jed
From: juan_e@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Random thoughts on Supes.(Was RE: SUPERMAN : no new Life in sight)
Date: 4 Jan 93 04:18:56 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <1hj0f9INNqa6@pith.uoregon.edu>, wesiegel@cie.uoregon.edu (William Siegel) writes:

> In article <24DEC199215174204@rigel.tamu.edu> ted4646@rigel.tamu.edu (cartoon boy) writes:

>>The local comic book store operator is keeping an eye on the advance order 
>>lists to find out when Krypton's Last Son is coming back...March's order
>>forms came out yesterday and no Superman titles are to be seen.
>>
>>
>>just a few random thoughts from thomas, aka ted4646@rigel.tamu.edu
>>
> 
> The owners and operators of my local comic book store don't see any new comics 
> for Superman coming out for the next couple of months and probably longer.
> 
> They said the last time this happened, the comic was cancelled.  They have 
> commented that DC may not be bringing back Superman at all.
> 
> Sad news for some and good news for others who want the dead to remain dead.
> 
> Don't make mine DC though.

Same here, but since Supes seems to be the talk of the town - I'd like to throw
in my two cents at least.

I have to admit that even though I didn't like the way his powers were 
explained, the villains he had, his stories, and the way he died (actually,
how it was concieved and written), I did love the way he was characterized
- it's the way I would have liked Captain America being done; maybe if someone 
shot Mark Gruenwald in the heart and let a "real" writer at the character
(hint hint (I'd do it -unfortunately I hate guns - despite being a Punisher 
Fan)).

I have to admit with that characterization - I hope they bring him back and
resurrect the guy properly.  I mean explain his powers properly, get him some
super villains that can take him (if not "head-on" at least something like the
old Lex Luthor type (tell you the truth, the Lex Luthor that Bryne made 
sucks)), and give better stories that make him believable -human, not in his
character but in his adventures and Life.

In the rumors I've heard, DC planned to keep him dead from 6 months to a year.
According to the latest "Funeral for a Friend" #5(it's a personal hunch, 
nothing legit) it seems that maybe he will recover somewhere around Easter.

                             Thanks for letting me babble,
                             Ned
                             St. Peter's College
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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: Dave Sim and the Comics Journal
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:25:50 GMT

don@tse.uucp (Don Marks):
>>The only "sneering arrogance" I saw was that Dave couldn't accept that
>>someone out there doesn't like Sandman.
>>
>I was wondering the same thing.  Dave must have been reading something else
>in there...

No, I read the same thing that Dave did.  It would have been one thing
for Thompson to say that he didn't like the writing, but it was another
(and it did qualify as "sneering arrogance") to say that the only parts
of the writing he liked were parts of the Vess issue.  (Since that was
the Shakespeare issue, we know which parts he meant.)

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

   God helpe the man so wrapt in Errours endless traine  -- Edmund Spenser
From: un032115@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: VG: unmentioned new Vertigo titles
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:00:03 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing


> In the issue of _Previews_ devoted to Vertigo, there's a bound card insert
> between pages 48 and 49 that has a list of Vertigo titles on the back.
> We've heard a lot about many of them, but there are some I've not heard
> of anywhere else:


> 	Jonah Hex: Two Gun Mojo

I think that this is Tim Truman's two-part "return Jonah Hex to the 19th
century" story.

However, I have no idea why it is going to be a Vertigo book.

Ken Bradley
un032115@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
From: jdelacr@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Jorge DeLaCruz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Nomad #whatever
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:44:42 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <1993Jan8.112620.13134@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore) writes:
>Maybe I'm a little behind on things, but I thought Barnes didn't become
>Bucky until around the time of the Korean War. I sure didn't know that
>he'd spent time in suspended animation. Are you sure you're not confusing
>him with Captain America (who created the Nomad identity?)
>
  Nomad was frozen, with one of the Captain Americans, the one that became the
 Grand Director of the National Force.  He took the name of NOMAD from CAP,
 I forgot what he called himself that.

							Jorge
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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: Cerebus #165
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 17:52:30 GMT

Damian.Cugley@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Damian Cugley):
>But now Sim has introduced Greer and Dworkin as two of Cirin's generals,
>it seems to me that one of his themes is "sensible feminist" Astoria vs
>"crypto-fascist matriarchal feminism" (Cirinists), with the latter being
>the majority.

You've been reading the text pages (Cirin's writings vs Astoria's) and
you think he considers Astoria a sensible feminist?

>I am not excited by the prospect of 150 issues of Sim bemoaning the
>short-comings of silly little women

Well, we've got ten more issues of "Mothers and Daughters", so it
seems reasonable that a major theme for the next ten issues is going
to be the interplay of various brands of feminist extremism.  Just
as it seemed reasonable that a major theme through "Church and State"
was going to be religious politics.

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

   God helpe the man so wrapt in Errours endless traine  -- Edmund Spenser
From: v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Was I reading Armageddon 2001 or Future Imperfect?
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:11:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <ostubble.726364882@uclagsm>, ostubble@agsm.ucla.edu (Otha Stubblefield III) writes...
>Spoilers Warning:




>uncanny.  One superhero taking over everything.  All other heroes dead.
>Calling himself the Maestro?  C'monnnnnnnnnnn!

It could be worse.  It really could be Hawk with a Hulk Body Cast on him.
AAAAAARRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!  I am reliving the nightmare of A2001, again.
Someone save me!!!!

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From: jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: SUPERMAN RETURNS AS FOURSOME CONFIRMED BY DC ON ET
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:41:38 GMT
Reply-To: jsp@pls.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dave Van Domelen) writes:

}     Four people (Teenager, Steel Worker, Warrior and Alien Cyborg) with 
}Superman-level powers surface, each claiming to be Supes.
}     Apparently Superman does not reinhabit his own body on returning (or maybe
}fails to return) but instead one or all of these bodies.  Eventually it will be
}resolved which, if any, are the real Supes.

I'm surprised I'm the first to bring this up (maybe it's just so obvious
to everyone else?), but this strikes me as the ultimate in sleezy
marketing tactics.  Clearly, DC intends to run these four "Supermen"
until they get a clear picture of which one is the most popular (read:
will make them the most money), and then that one will be revealed as
the one "true" Superman.  God, I just hope it's not the teenager . . .

--James Preston

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From: naam@cecer.army.mil (Ramez Naam)
Subject: Re: Is IMAGE worth reading?
Organization: US Army Corps of Engineers Construction Engineering Research Labs
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 02:00:54 GMT

gipper.1@nd.edu (The Gipper) writes:

>I haven't read any of the Image titles yet.  Are there any worth picking
>up?  I refuse to read anythng written by McFarlane.

Jim Lee's WILDC.A.T.S. series is fairly entertaining so far, but it's 
still just super-hero stuff.

--
Ramez Naam
naam@terra.cecer.army.mil
From: lore@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Lore Christian Sjoberg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Why Vertigo? Was: Marvel copies DC... again
Date: 7 Jan 1993 17:31:23 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
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Does anybody care to post the Top 100?


-- 
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From: Sten M. Drescher <smd@hrt216.brooks.af.mil>
Subject: Re: Is that Susan Richards' new costume?
Organization: AL/HRTI, Brooks AFB
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 02:26:57 GMT

On 4 Jan 93 11:18:33 GMT, Chagnon_A@msm.cdx.mot.com (Andrew Chagnon) said:

 Andrew> In article <f_721am@rpi.edu> tsait@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Theodore Leonard Tsai)
 Andrew> writes:
>I was just perusing CSN when I spotted the middle centerspread which is
>a big color FF ad.  It's been a while sice I've read FF (and will
>continue to be as long as DuhFalco is 'writing' it).  I have to assume
>that the blond bimbo in the skimpy costume in the center of the ad is
>the invisible woman.  Yeah, nice outfit.  When exactly did they
>introduce it and how did the other members react to the new costume?  I
>always thought of the FF as Marvel's 'first family' of superheroes and
>that they were supposed to be well respected in the Marvel Universe
>etc.  Did they even bother explaining this away?
>Just curious...
>
>

 Andrew> Yes...that is Sue Richards.The new costume was introduced in the issues of
 Andrew> Fantastic Four that had the all-white cover. (don't know the number) Reed
 Andrew> Richards reaction was "Oh. That's nice. Did you get the roof fixed?" (something
 Andrew> like that) As for the other's reactions, I do not know. 

	I'm not sure if Johnny's seen it or not, but Reed and Ben
haven't.  They've been off rescuing Alicia Masters from a renegade
Watcher.  But it's yet another 'Sue Storm possesed by [a] Malice'
storyline.  Marvel does the environmentally correct thing yet again by
recycling storylines.

	Sten
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From: pduggan@world.std.com (Paul C Duggan)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Collections and a FAQ List
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:30:39 GMT

In article <lsmith.726869976@myria> lsmith@myria.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
>
>2) A pointer to the The Annotated Sandman and where they are archived.

Hi. This sound's interesting. So where is it?

paul duggan
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From: maser@engin.umich.edu (Steven Michael Maser)
Subject: Wither IRONWOOD?
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:51:04 GMT

    Anyone seen hide nor hair of IRONWOOD in a while?  Last issue I
saw was #8 waay back in April or so.  

    I remember my comic shop getting a collected volume of the first
half of the series, but nothing else since.

    Did Willingham piss somebody off?


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From: ostubble@agsm.ucla.edu (Otha Stubblefield III)
Subject: Was I reading Armageddon 2001 or Future Imperfect?
Date: 6 Jan 93 16:04:06 PST

Spoilers Warning:




















I was re-reading Future Imperfect 1, and the similarity to A2000 is 
uncanny.  One superhero taking over everything.  All other heroes dead.
Calling himself the Maestro?  C'monnnnnnnnnnn!
From: zonker@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (     Regis     )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: SANDMAN: a question... and a thought...
Date: 8 Jan 93 04:40:30 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Northeastern University

so, we're supposed to get a family reunion within the next couple of
issues...

do any of the other endless have offspring that we know of (besides
Dream (perhaps the family reunion will involve orpheus as well?  I
assume we were shown him for a reason... either this storyline or the
next major story arc...))?

also, in the special "orpheus marries and visits hell" issue, i think
it is, delirium says she almost got married...  i wonder if this was
as delirium or as delight...  maybe having her heart broken was part
of her Change?

--r
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