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From: thorick@sybase.com (Thorick Chow)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Almost had it stolen tonite!
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:35:29 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <dbc-280992012446@b62003.student.cwru.edu> dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson) writes:
>In article <1992Sep27.204546.29334@eye.com>, jesse@eye.com (Jesse Lackey)
>wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> It is situations like this that make me want to get a .22 to keep on my bike
>> somewhere.  Not that I know how to shoot, but there's nothing like a gun to
>> stop large assholes in their tracks...
>> 
>
>Yeah, the only problem is that you should only pull a gun if you're
>going to use it.  'Cause, if the other guy has one, and you don't use
>yours, he WILL use his...
>

yeah...  I'd go further to say that if I were standing there in front
of you, and you pulled a gun on me, I'd probably go for broke
and try to do the following to you in no particular order:

1. neuter you
2. make it so you can check the "Blindness" exemption on your 1040
3. break your neck
4. try to determine the young's modulus of your skull on the pavement

(delete item 4 if your wearing a helmet, likewise 2 if the faceshield
 is down)

And I'm a peace loving forgiving person !

in other words..  he's right, it's not smart to bluff with a gun or 
ANY lethal weapon...


now for the MC part  :-)

Mike (the seat manufacturer) Corbin  was once DELIBERATELY struck by a motorist
on the freeway..  the motorist crossed 3 lanes of traffic to
zero in on Corbin as he was entering on an on ramp...
Why did he do this ?  It turned out that the driver had skipped on
his medication (he was certifiably paranoid)..  he told the police
that  "Motorcycle riders often carry guns, I HAD to get him to 
protect myself"...

:-(


-t.c.



--
"We must be careful not to discourage our 12-year-olds by making them   
 waste the best years of their lives on preparing for examinations.  If
 we do not stifle their interest in science, one of them has a chance to
 be the new Heisenberg..."              - Freeman Dyson
From: cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley riders are JAGOFFS!!
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:07:07 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles.harley
Organization: SGI TechPubs
NNTP-Posting-Host: eno.wpd.sgi.com


shz@garage.att.com writes:
|egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
||Why do people ride Harleys?

|Because they lack the insecurity that causes other people to buy fast
|rice burners and then brag about how fast their plastic coated toy is
|compared to other bikes.

If you're so secure, how come you feel this need to insult other
people's bikes?  You protest too much for me to believe you when
you assert that your penis-- excuse me, your BIKE-- is so much
better than other people's.

---
cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com      C J Silverio/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
"Vanity working on a weak head, produces every sort of mischief." --Austen
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: Leaning into it
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 13:36:42 GMT

In article <1023@pico.OZ> conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au writes:
>
>To over simplify, lean the bike - not yourself.  And use your
>knees/thighs to do it.  (This all applies to slow (<25mph) stuff).

This is a joke, right?

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
From: smm@rodan.UU.NET (Steve Mansfield)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Date: 28 Sep 1992 08:14:31 -0400
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

In article <1992Sep27.220135.1301@msus1.msus.edu> stafford@msus1.msus.edu writes:
>
>	OK.  Do _all_ DoDers wear full-face helmets?
>	All the ones I've seen do.

Color me full-face...

Steve Mansfield	    | The system we've learned says we're equal under law
smm@uunet.uu.net    | But the streets are reality, the weak and poor will fall
1983 Suzuki GS550E  | Let's tip the power balance and tear down the crown
DoD# 1718	    | Educate the masses, we'll burn the White House down.
Queensryche	    -       Speak the Word.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles.racing
From: jimi@well.sf.ca.us (Jim Isom)
Subject: Re: Tell me about frondstands
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 04:09:53 GMT

In <73073@apple.Apple.COM> thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson) writes:

+I'm in the market for a frontstand (a jack that raises the
+front wheel of a motorcycle off the ground via the steering
+head.)  I want one that's adjustable for different bikes,
+and that can be used by one person.  If anyone has 
+experience with a stand that satisfies these requirements
+I'd like to hear from you.

I have one, Paul.  It's called a Kwik Lift - cost me about 150 bucks,
I think. It takes quite a bit of weight and heft to get the gxsr
onto the thing since the lift's lowest point is yet a bit high for
Nefertiti. A bit of hacksawing will correct this shortcoming if 
it proves necessary. Something else - the gxsr has a two - into
one brake line manifold bolted such that a clear shot to the steering
head shaft is rendered impossible without removing the thing, temproarily.

+P.S. Don't tell me to buy a BMW!

Why?  You don't need the center thing. 8-{)}  Besides, they can be delightful.

+-- 
+Paul Thompson    Apple Computer    DoD #47    Would you remember a 1-line .sig?
-- 
Jim Isom            jimi@well.sf.ca.us             |     2b+~2b=1 
'92 R100GS (Unnamed as yet), GSXR-750M (Nefertiti), '86 Radian (Minerva)
From: klp@doe.carleton.ca (Ka Lun Pang)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Almost had it stolen tonite!
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:12:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: lore.klp.717865953
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University

In <183661@pyramid.pyramid.com> rcl@pyramid.COM (Rich "Black Dragon" Lewis) writes:

>A friend had something simular happen last week, a cage was on his ass for over 10
>miles when the cage tried to run him off the road. My friend ran it up to 95+ Mph
>passed his favorite police enjoying a donut, and pointed at the cage. The cop


Just how the hell does a cop in the donut shop see a moving object travelling
at 95+Mph??? And how the hell he stopped the cage going from the donut shop
to his cop vehicle and 0 to 95? That would take forever...  :-* 



>                 -m----------         Rich Lewis
>              ----mmm--------         Pyramid Technology Corporation
>           -------mmmmmm-----         3860 North First Street
>        ----------mmmmmmmmm--         San Jose, Ca 95134
>                                      USA

>        Email - rcl@pyramid.com
>                {allegra,decwrl,hplabs,munnari,sun,utai,uunet}!pyramid!rcl

>	Phone - (408) 428-8836 International

>	DoD #1027
--
      Ka Lun  Pang (a.k.a. Andy) - Lost between frequency and time
                      email: klp@doe.carleton.ca 
                               DoD# 0687
                       "I need a vacation"--T2
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 15:56:34 -0400 
From: Mark Joseph Andy <ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Leaning into it
	<1992Sep21.165147.21455@rchland.ibm.com>

Howdy,

essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum) writes:
> In article <X4TFRB1w165w@vector0.UUCP>, jon%vector0.UUCP@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (Dazed N. Confused) writes:
> [jon is afraid of falling in turns because he fell 1.5 years ago]
> |>      Someone reason with me, please.
> 
> i felt the same way after dumping my 750 interceptor in a tight right turn.  i
> had no clue how far i could lean in a turn, and i just pitched it over at 40 mph
> and basically countersteered right into the ground.  this was 1 month after
> getting the bike (also, 1 month into my riding experience).  i didn't get hurt
> bad in the crash.  lost a little skin on right hand/wrist and both legs.
> 
> after that i was sorta paranoid of lean angles.  i still take it pretty easy
> when exploring severe lean in certain corners/situations.  i found that
> any sort of logical demonstration of a bike's capability made it easier for
> me to force myself to override my fear.  ie. have a friend with more
> experience ride the bike through the corner and lean a lot.  maybe follow him
> and watch him lean.  once i had (what i considered) irrefutable evidence that
> the bike was capable, it was easier to overcome the fear.

Yeah, Axel was scared for about 1.9 seconds, until some guy in a vette
passed him and they raced around on the freeway at like 120 mph.  Of
course Axel's brakes didn't work hardly at all, but at least he didn't
have to lean TOO much...

Anyway, to the guy who's afraid to lean the bike, I've got a few
suggestions.  1st, buy yourself some awesome protective gear.  Leather
will make you more comfortable with the thought of falling and
sliding.  Second, put on that awesome protective gear and then go to a
track or some other place with a bunch of fairly smooth run-off.  Then
just go through the corner repeatedly, first getting your line
consistantly where you want it, then increasing cornering speed slowly
(like by 2.5 mph or so).  Soon you'll be hitting lean angles that
you've never seen.  Of course, the reason you picked a corner with
plenty of run-off and are wearing leathers is because theres a highish
chance you'll crash.  Just don't worry about it.  It's pretty easy to
fix a bike.

Judging from the Radian's I've seen, that bike has more than enough
cornering clearance and should be plenty composed even at speed in a
corner.

Mark

| Mark J. Andy			WERA NV #813		AMA #700560	|
| ma1w+@cmu.edu			KotR			DoD #813	|
| Co-founder/Rider, Team RISC and Two Geeks Racing			|
| '82 Seca 650 (street), '85 RZ350 (track), '87 KDX200 (the humbler)	|
| I want RZ350 parts like steering damper, fork brace, SS lines, etc... |
From: news@irv.icl.com (R Beaver)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: RE: K100rs
Keywords: save your money
Date: 23 Sep 92 22:31:15 GMT
Organization: ICL, Advanced Development, Mid-Range Systems

I've got over 75,000 miles on an RS, 28,000 on K75's
and a bit over 20,000 on R bikes.  A yet nothing has been as fun
as the K100, as expensive and problematic.  I like the abuse
of a BMW (Guzzi too) but if I didn't want abuse I'd buy a cheaper,
better Japanese bike (NOT!).

The newer K100RS has many advances and the new fuel injection
is really nice, especially at evevations over 10000 feet.  The
overall bike is an improvement x10 but maybe a wait for a motor with
more punch (K1100RS) will be worth it.  Late '93 is what I've heard but
maybe you'll see more changes as well (I ain't saying).
From: shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Drag racing
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:14:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsm.1992Oct1.141451.10036
Organization: Office of 'Tude Licensing

In article <1992Sep30.220558.27192@serval.net.wsu.edu>, bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:                                            
> >> Ride Free, and straight for 1/4 mile! 
> >"Ride Free" generally means "helmet free."  Do you plan to drag race
> >without a helmet?
> 
> "Ride Free" does not _generally_ mean to ride without a helmet.  It means
> to ride with a free spirit, an unfettered soul.  It means to ride without
> the burdens of the day, the worries of life.  To live the total joy of
> freedom of mind, spirit and being.
> 
> Any one who rides a motorcycle without a helmet is out of their fucking minds.

Oooh!  A tough biker dude...

- Roid
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,talk.bizarre
From: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston)
Subject: Re: Stat du jour
Reply-To: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston)
Organization: SCI Systems, Inc., Huntsville, Al.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:26:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.233404.16275@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil> dsc3jfs@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Jim Small) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.130241.8433@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil> rdc30@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Code-03 LCDR Michael E. Dobson) writes:
>> [ .... ]  I trust your affairs are in order.

>Affairs? Heck, I ain't even married yet.  Who do you think I am?  Clinton?

No, Gary Hart. 

Or maybe Jim Bakker....

-- 

Gary Heston    SCI Systems, Inc.  gary@sci34hub.sci.com   site admin
The Chairman of the Board and the CFO speak for SCI. I'm neither.
"...I looked out my window, and saw Kyle Pettys' car upside down, then I
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: chrispi@microsoft.com (Chris Pirih)
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Date: 05 Oct 92 07:47:23 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In rec.motorcycles lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle J. Mackey) writes:
;I'm entirely uncomfortable wearing an open-face helmet... I feel like I might
;as well not wear one at all.  Have there been any studies done concerning the
;protective merits of full-face vs. open-face helmets?  

Yeah, some medico in Australia has done careful studies 
to prove that if you take a fall on your chin at high 
speed wearing a full face helmet you'll snap your spinal 
cord; if you're wearing an open face helmet you'll just 
crush and/or grind off the lower half of your face.  
Theoretically, the face can be reconstructed, whereas the 
spinal cord can't.

The guy who did the study coincidentally holds a patent
on a new type of collapsible-chin full face helmet that
helps prevent such neck injuries.

I know this is true; I read it here on rec.motorcycles.

---
chris
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: Harley Fashionable == Deaths
Reply-To: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 12:45:15 GMT

In article <daved.718259959@convex.convex.com>, daved@convex.com (David
Dorfman) writes: 
|> 
|> I think we must all admit that Harley Davidson mototcycles
|> are the fashion rage in america today. I just posted a long
|> article on the Neiman Marcus catalog listing for vintage harleys
|> and I saw an add in the Boston Globe today for a fur lined
|> motorcycle
|> jacket illustrated with a helmet-less rider on a sportster.
|> 
|> Tonight on the Boston Evening news carried a story on a 32 year old 
|> man killed in a single vehicle motorcycle accident, apparently he
|> lost 
|> control of the bike while giving a friend a ride. The TV news crew
|> showed the bike, it was a brand new 1200+ CC blue and cream HARLEY.
|> 
|> Do you all think that it is possible that people are buying a Harley
|> as their 
|> first motorcycle because it is so fashionable, leaving the show room
|> |> with their first bike, which happens to be one of the largest
|> fastest
|> bikes you could ever start out on and getting killed?
|> 
|> Being a poser is one thing but paying for it with your life is
|> another.
|> 
|> Flame away
|> 

  Survival of the fittest, I was looking for a dog a few
years ago and didn't want another high strung dobe or a
shedder like parents G. Shepard. I looked at the Rhodesian(sp?)
Ridgeback and was talking to an owner/breeder and his comment
on the dog was "they're pretty smart due to natural selection,
all the stupid ones got eaten". The downside to the MC accidents
is with insurance, all the posers buy HD, get greased and the
insurance co's say "HD's are dangerous look at the death rates".
Like Bushes comments about the economy, Geeze George, how long
since you actually went shopping and had to buy something
yourself (and actually pay for it out of your own pocket),
not just add in the days memos as "Things I want done today"
or "Have the Housekeeper stock the Summer House".
-- 
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                 and TARGETS !!!
#1/XS1100LH	#2/10/10/92
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Internet: fist@iscp.belcore.com,|| UUNET:uunet!bcr!fist  
#include <std.disclaimer> My opinions are my own!!!
I Don't shop in malls, I by my jeans, jackets and ammo
in the same store.
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: How long for Dod number?
Date: 26 Sep 92 12:46:26 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: na
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH

tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>) writes:

>bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>>
>>THIS IS NOT A FLAME!!!!!
>>
>>It is merely a request for information.
>>
>>How long does it take to get a DoD number once you've sent your
>>request off to the KotL?
>
>It all depends. What's the credit limit on your Visa card?
>
>(You _did_ include your Visa number in the request. Didn't you?)

Tom, what kind of feed you got there?  This was dealt
with weeks ago.  Anyway, I used MasterCard.

-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
From: davewi@soccer.wv.tek.com (David H. Wise)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: car-to-bike jump start
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:29:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: shaman.1913
Reply-To: davewi@soccer.wv.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville,  OR.

In article <1992Oct2.191218.21060@megatek.com> megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net writes:
>
>  A car electrical system can DRAW more current than the bike alternator/
>rectifier/regulator can handle.  It is VERY IMPORTANT that you disconnect
>the auto battery AS SOON as you get the bike started!  As soon as the bike
>starts up, the bike's electrical system will try to charge the bike battery.
>When the auto battery is tied across the bike battery, the bike will of
>course try to charge the auto battery, also.  This is VERY BAD (tm).

Only for some bikes.  On those that use shunt regulated permanent-magnet
alternators (like the CX500, the Virago, and who knows how many others),
the alternator is _always_ pushing out max current; the regulator drains
off whatever excess the battery doesn't need.  The stator is designed to
stand this.

>  Now, since a car electrical system can deliver more current than the bike's
>battery can, and the regulation and charging system of the bike cannot sink
>the amount of current that the car can provide, I think it *is* recommended
>that the car *not* be running when you jump from it.

With the aforementioned bikes, if the car's regulator is set a tad higher
than the bike's, the bike's regulator will attempt to suck the car down to
its level.  This could burn it out.

>
>  So, you use a car battery from a *non*-running car to get the bike started.
>But, once the bike is started, the two batteries in parallel will be a higher
>load (lower resistance, which means higher current flow must be provided by
>the bike's alternator/rectifier/regulator to maintain the voltage) than the
>bike charging system can handle.  This extra load that the car battery puts
>on the bike charging system can blow or damage the VERY EXPENSIVE electrical

Bikes that use an excited alternator without an overcurrent cutout may blow
the stator or rectifier if they try to prop up a car battery.  It's even
more likely if you try to jump a car from a running bike.

General rule:  don't run the donor, and get the cables off quick.
You may get away with it, but then again...

--
David Wise	davewi@orca.wv.tek.com
DoD#427		1980 CX500C (Packy), 1976 Guzzi 850-T3
From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Date: 28 Sep 92 09:38:07 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Sep27.220135.1301@msus1.msus.edu> stafford@msus1.msus.edu writes:

>	OK.  Do _all_ DoDers wear full-face helmets?
>	All the ones I've seen do.

I have a town open-face helmet, and a country full-face helmet. The
open face is more convenient for short-stop urban shopping, gives me
better vision and hearing in slow high-density all-directions urban
traffic, and lets me listen to all the little engine noises which warn
me of maintenance jobs.

The full-face keeps me warm, dry, and not deaf, on high speed runs,
and lets me look over my shoulders at DoD speed without having my neck
twisted off and my helmet spun round back to front.
-- 
Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Re: How far do you commute?
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:45:21 PDT

The straight path (literally one road): two miles.

The Long Way Home: who knows?  It has taken me three hours on occasion...

--
|  Greg Orman                         greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|                   DoD #0486 - '82 Vision 550                   |
|     A man's best friends:  a Harley, a Beretta and a Gund.     |
From: bloom@inland.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Drag racing
Date: 2 Oct 92 08:16:06 CST
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

In article <1992Sep30.172346.23080@serval.net.wsu.edu>, johnsw@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns) writes:
> YO Denizens!                                                                    
>                                                                                 
> Weather permitting, I'm gonna try drag-racing this weekend.  Like Jurgen        
> said, "I'll taste of any drink once."  So other than holding the tack           
> near the rev limiter and popping the clutch, what words of advise can be        
> offered on the proper technique for maximum acceleration on a strip,            
> ideally with minimal damage/wear and tear on the bike.  Should the chain        
> be relatively loose or tight?  Tire pressures?  Short shifting? Weight          
> distribution?  Other useful techniques?                                         


Somehow you have missed the most basic rule of racing: 
The value of any vehicle you put on the starting line is zero!
You have to be prepared to walk away without your bike.
..........Dr. Doom
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: brady_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Brady)
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:12:30 GMT
Organization: Dirtbag Contractor from Hell(tm), Inc.

I always wear my Simpson model 30 full-face helmet (remember the "Darth Vader"
helmet?). If it ever gets damaged, I'll be bummed since it fits so well...

--pete

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pete Brady                              EMAIL: brady_p@apollo.hp.com
Dirtbag Contractor from Hell(tm)        PHONE: 508-436-5226

DoD #5831 -- '92 CBR600F2 -- Any FLH's looking for a home, contact me...
From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Asking DoD? stupid, how about AMA??
Date: 29 Sep 92 11:24:39 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA

ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan - Mick) writes:
: In a previous article, robf@pacifier.rain.com (Rob Fulwell) said:
: :- How about: How do I get an AMA #?  Is there a membership
: :- fee?  Neat patches, stickers etc., moto news?
: :- 
: 
: 	depends... are you a doctor? a medicine man? a quack? yeah, i
: 	hear they have neat patches... leftovers from failed skin graft
: 	operations. i dont think they have any moto-news though.
                                               ^^^^^^^^^
					       American Motorcyclist kinda 
					       qualifies...

: 
: 	i think you have to call 1-800-AMA-JOIN
: 
: 	peace,
: 
: 	- ravi

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