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From: memon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Naveed Siraj Memon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: the terminator part n : )
Date: 2 Sep 92 08:02:34 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Sep2.060354.849@sol.cs.wmich.edu> sherwani@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Naveed Sherwani) writes:
>In article <1SEP199222370546@iago.caltech.edu>, mughal@iago.caltech.edu (ASIM M MUGHAL) writes:
>> In article <1992Sep2.015918.754@sol.cs.wmich.edu>, sherwani@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Naveed Sherwani) writes...
>
>I remember an old one:
>
> A khan shahib goes to friday prayer, and maulvi is talking
>about what happens in hereafter. The maulvi says, hoors have
>a face as white and creame, their body is as soft as baby, and
>a person can have sex with as many as one wants, and you will not
>get tired of having sex, and you will keep on chaning parters
>and on and on ...
>
> The khan shahib cannot take it any more and yells:
>
>  Khucha, I have come here to say my prayers, not to get a hard-on.
>
>
>Well, I know it is kinda lame one, I forgot the actual RAW
>language, maybe one of the younger SCPians would remember.
>
>Without that language it kinda loses it in translation.
>
>regards,
>
>-Naveed
>
>PS: Once I went to a Tablighi Jammat conference in Louisiana and the
>the maulvi from Malaysia was doing that also. I think almost
>everyone wished that they should die instantly, because hereafter
>sounded too  good.
>
>I counted the number of times one could have sex, using only female
>in a sexual encounter----- it was about 350 trillion
>
>It was based on number of rooms, number of hoor/room, etc
>
>It was all male perspective, nobody worried about females in hereafter.
>Maybe they dont die.

Tablighi jamaats and Malaysian "brothers and saathis" reminds me of my
undergraduate apartment. There were about 6 housemates, some other friends who
m were regular visitors. We had had a typical friday night at out place,
chayay, cards, VCR and ofcourse x-rated movies. Early saturday morning,
the tablighi jamaat shows up and the scene in my living room is a classic 
one. People sleeping in their underwear, TV still on, some freshman stuck
to the TV(literally) The jamaat had a patently familiar knock and being
a fool that I am, I open the door without looking through the hole. [Naveed
bhai remember one of your housemates, the bearded one], well he, a couple 
of Malaysians who spoke each sentence reapeating "brother","inshallah"
more than 5 times. My friends, still not aware that we had visitors
sitting in the livingroom, wake up to the tableeghi session. The joker that
I am, not to mention the head of the household, had to cater to the needs
of our saathiz. Just pressed the on button for the VCR and the TV and watch
the fun. Especially those who decided that preaching in a dhoti would a 
liberating experience, were the first ones to head for the door.



Aaaa the good old miserable days.



Naveed
From: sherwani@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Naveed Sherwani)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: the terminator part n : )
Summary: let`s set the rating of SCP
Date: 2 Sep 92 01:59:18 GMT
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.

In article <BtxG6q.6CI@acsu.buffalo.edu>, memon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Naveed Siraj Memon) writes:
> In article <1992Sep1.230819.11234@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> alam@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ALAM AFSHAN) writes:
> >azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar) writes:
> >
> >>	   On the contrary, a hard man is easy to find, and so is a good
> >but the combination? man that is *hard* er difficult to find:)
> >
> >>man. The problem is that they don't say good (and hard) for too long
> >>after one finds them. Unfortunately, shooting terminates good (and
> >i'd ask why not. but this newsgp is g-rated. wouldnt wanna corrupt innocent
> >minds :)
> >
> 
> This is a big problem. Often times one has to edit the articles before
> posting keeping in view the innocent "readership". It is so hard.
> 
> >>hard) men. 
> >ah.and then rigor mortis sets in.mayb thats the soln to longterm hardness
> >+ gdness(ever known a copse to marry again or do other rotten stuff?) 
> >
> >>	   Salman [I did not shoot the deputy] Azhar
> >just fired the guy eh?:)
> >no1's implying u shot him.such gratuitous assertions can only ld to trbl:)
> >
> >Afshan. where *does* 1 apply for a licence to kill:)
> 
> 
> Naveed[just kill it before it grows] Siraj :) :)


I dont think SCP is g-rated. These days the rating has IMPROVED to
pg-13 due to punjabi jokes. Some of them are pretty hilarious.

I would like to see all kinds of stuff, this is what freedom of expression
is all about. You can put some warning in the subject for innocent
readers to hit 'n'.

So please dont edit your articles, let us see some RAW stuff.

Anybody with good R-rated pakistani jokes, material ? please come
out of the closet. 


regards,

-Naveed

PS: I dont have a pakistani joke, but a professor told me a political
joke:

Kid says to his mother: Come mama, there is a democrat, master**ting
outside our door, Mother says, but how do you know, he is a democrat ?
Kid says, if he was a republican he would be F**king others ?
From: rk@nms.hls.com (S Ramakrishnan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Woody Allen joke
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:07:33 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Hughes LAN Systems Inc., Mountain View, Ca
Originator: ramakris@csgrad.cs.vt.edu

Anyone seen "Father of the Bride" ? A far cry from the original.
Heard this over K.101 today: 
  
  Name of the upcoming Woody Allen movie: "Father of His Bride".


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S Ramakrishnan, HLS Inc., Mountain View, Ca
Xref: sparky soc.culture.pakistan:14299 soc.rights.human:3227
From: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.rights.human
Subject: Re: Repost: Re: Is Islam and Pakistan?
Date: 28 Aug 1992 13:16:46 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: pageboy.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Aug27.231246.11402@newton.ccs.tuns.ca> jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali) writes:
>
>What's so amoral about sticking to the tradition of calling oneself
>Muslim??? If one's perception of Islam allows him to be less fanatical,
>he/she doesn't become obliged to renounce allegiance to Islam. 

Well, if someone calls himself a Muslim then s/he should also
be prepared to be treated according to the laws of his/her
beliefs! 

You may have disagreement at the interpretation of a principle but
this disagreement can not make you beyond the law. It is as if a 
US citizen who benefits from social security but at tax time
balks at paying the IRS taxes! If you are a US citizen you 
have to pay the taxes (period).

You have every right to disagree with the penalties levied
by IRS. However, the disagreement can ONLY be valid if
you can show within the rules of IRS that you are exempted.
TO get an exemption, you can't apply Pakistani tax laws.
What BB and liberals want to do, is akin to invoking Pakistani 
rules to get exemption from IRS penalties. They must realize,
if they have any intellectual ability, that exemption can
ONLY be granted under IRS rules. The way out is not to start
castigating IRS, but understanding IRS rules and use them
to your benefit. 

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From: ag3l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Arun K. Gupta)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Fwd: NEWS: Valley of torture, rape
Date: 30 Aug 92 10:14:14 GMT
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Organization: Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


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From: rk@nms.hls.com (S Ramakrishnan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Sh'ers (Re: Waseem Siddiqui (waseems@sco.COM), SCO Inc., Canada.)
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:01:53 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Hughes LAN Systems Inc., Mountain View, Ca
Originator: ramakris@csgrad.cs.vt.edu

In article <1992Aug25.160609.5268@sco.COM> waseems@sco.COM (Waseem Siddiqi) writes:

  >I've sent you mail but if that doesn't reaches you, try the
  >following addresses
  >
  >uunet!sco!waseems
  >waseems@scol.uucp

Hum tho aapko email bhejthe thak gaye. Beharhaal, aapne mujhe jo
humoros sh'er bheja tha wo achcha tho thaa. Par yehaan hum
apni taqdeer par ro rahe hain aur aapko maazaak sooj rahi hai :-).

Is group mein logon ko "Multiple Wives" aur "Fascism" ke alaawaa
aur kuch aathaa hi nahin. Will anyone post some romantic sh'ers PLEASE !

  >Waseem A. Siddiqi                                 Tel:    (416) 922 1937

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From: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.rights.human
Subject: Re: Is Islam equal to Intolearnce and Fascism ?
Date: 27 Aug 1992 17:20:16 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: pageboy.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Aug26.194218.5784@newton.ccs.tuns.ca> jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali) writes:
:
:So that's the game we're playing eh!! I apologise unconditionally for any of
:my comments that might be considered offensive or not conducive to a healthy
:discussion, according to reasonable standards. Now, would you care to comment
:on the posting's content please.

Please, repost it. I donot have its copy.

Pakistan's situation is not a game. The elitist bureaucrats and army 
have already played enough games.
From: jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.rights.human
Subject: Re: Is Islam equal to Intolearnce and Fascism ?
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:43:02 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.

In article <1992Aug25.172303.9785@cco.caltech.edu> asim@heckle.ugcs.caltech.edu (A. M. Mughal) writes:

..... (stuff deleted)

>>and helicopters were used by Pakistan's army for crushing the MRD (Movement
>>for Restoration of Democracy). 
>
>
>	Nadeem, yes but what is this discussion on Pakistani politics which
>	say has basis in the religion doing in soc.rights.human ?

It may be a mere coincidence but the people of Pakistan happen to be HUMANs,
and the Islamic system which is assumed supreme in Pakistan violates those
people's RIGHT to decide their destiny.

>
>	I think you are isolating one possible factor which can be taken
> 	as ignoring the theory. Let me highlight one other factor, the 
>	U.S. Govt. supported Zia regime and its actions  so was U.S. Govt.
>	involved in crushing the "MRD" too? Was it really for restoration of
>	democracy or one political party's way of trying to the office ? 
>

You should be ashamed of yourself for saying this. What political affiliation
do you think people of villages throughout Pakistan's Sindh province shared 
because of which they were persecuted like that?? Do you even have the courage
to acknowledge that so many people were killed???   If most of the political
parties of a country (including the most popular party) take an initiative
against a military dictator, what's so wrong about it?? Do the people have
to fight without any leaders to deserve credibility??

>>
>>Let me ask you one question. Does Islam recognise the people's right
>>to decide against an Islamic system?
>
>	I will like to think yes. There are many many countries which have 
>	chosen to decide against the Islamic system or any religion system
>	as their  basis, separating 'church' and the state. 

I did not ask whether it is possible that a country with muslim majority
be without an "Islamic" system. I know it is possible... and that's what I'm
hoping will happen in Pakistan one day. 

>>
>>Nadeem
>>
>
>Asim Mughal
>
>[Standard Disclaimer]

Nadeem

-- 
Nadeem Jamali                                     jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca
						 
School of Computer Science			  
Technical University of Nova Scotia		  (902)420-7882  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.rights.human
From: aruna@bnr.ca (Ed Vopni)
Subject: Re: WOMEN GAVE GOLD TO BOSNIA
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:00:43 GMT

In article <l9nlriINN483@pageboy.cs.utexas.edu> hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder) writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.135056.11449@digi.lonestar.org> msardar@digi.lonestar.org (Mohammed Tariq Sardar) writes:
>>
>>This is totally different to the position taken by the moslem goverments, not a 
>>single ISLAMIC country have made a firm commitment to the BOSNIAN cause. They are 
>
>Just to put the records straight. Foreign Minister of Bosnia visited
>Pakistan the other day. Pakistan has announced a support of 
>$10 million (Dawn probably one in August 9-13)
>
>Of course, it is no where near what is needed. It should have been
>more in forthcoming.
>

A related question:

Are majority of Somalians Muslims? If so how are the Islamic countries helping
the starvation ridden population there? Being a close neighbour of Somalia, is
Saudi Arabia arranging for any shipment of food to Somalia?

Arun
[standard disclaimer applies]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.indian
From: rayes@Snake.mcs.kent.edu (Sandra Rayes)
Subject: Re: WOMEN GAVE GOLD TO BOSNIA
Organization: Kent State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 01:41:36 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.200043.22110@bcrka451.bnr.ca> aruna@bnr.ca (Ed Vopni) writes:
>In article <l9nlriINN483@pageboy.cs.utexas.edu> hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder) writes:
 
>>
>>Just to put the records straight. Foreign Minister of Bosnia visited
>>Pakistan the other day. Pakistan has announced a support of 
>>$10 million (Dawn probably one in August 9-13)
>>
>>Of course, it is no where near what is needed. It should have been
>>more in forthcoming.
>>
>
>A related question:
>
>Are majority of Somalians Muslims? If so how are the Islamic countries helping
>the starvation ridden population there? Being a close neighbour of Somalia, is
>Saudi Arabia arranging for any shipment of food to Somalia?
>
>Arun

It is true that the majority of Somalis are Muslim.  Last week Rafiya Omar
(if I remember her name correctly), the president of Africa Watch and
herself a Somali, appeared on CNN's International Hour.  She expressed
concern that the Red Cross, a Christian organization, is the leader in
relief to Somalia.  She seemed to express bitterness when she said that
Somalia is also a member of the Arab League and a Muslim state yet other
member states of the region have not been as generous with aid as has the
West.

As a Muslim, I was dismayed by this.  This is not to say Muslims are not
helping.  Many Muslims are sending aid *privately* and there are some
funds established in North America by ISNA and ICNA to send aid.  However,
I believe many Muslim citizens of so-called "Muslim" states , some of
which have oppressive governments, are fearful of getting involved with
anything political and on a large scale.  In the West, the Red Cross is
an independent agency which gets no monetary support from the government.
In most of the Mid East, to my knowledge, the equivalent, the Red Crescent,
is a government-sponsored organization.  

It is important to know that any income generated by any Muslim country
belongs to ALL Muslims.  This is an economic principle.  Therefore, it 
is not a good deed to help Somalis with government money, but *obligatory*.
If a country doesn't help, that will indicate how "Islamic" they truly are.

Sandra.






Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali)
Subject: Re: desi gif's ?
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:19:25 GMT

I just copied a few more to images/newpicts. images.doc contains a very brief
description.

Nadeem

-- 
Nadeem Jamali                                     jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca
						 
School of Computer Science			  
Technical University of Nova Scotia		  (902)420-7882
From: anajam@athena.mit.edu (ADIL NAJAM)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: humm aaa gaa-aye tou garmi-e-baazar daikhna....
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:26:39 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology




Hello folks......its good to be back.......specially for someone
who never went anywhere :-)



	tairay gham ko jaaN ki taalash thi
	tairay gham gusaar chaalay gaa-aye

	sar-e-raah  kartay thay saar talab
	sar-e-rah-guzaar  chaalay  gaa-aye		(Faiz)



	ADIL [tumm aa-aye ho na shab-e-intizaar guzri hai
	      ajeeb  rang  meiN aab  kay bahar  guzri hai] NAJAM



	P.S.	Could Zia Zafir or Naveed Memon please correct
		verse in my signature (from Faiz).....I think I 
		am missing or misquoting a word somewhere......
		.....and yes, the signature verse is a reference,
		and a very painful one at that, to my summer....
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: bholu@nyx.cs.du.edu (  Bholu)
Subject: Re: blue eyes shine ice
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 03:03:55 GMT

In article <714854830@flounder.cs.duke.edu> azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Sa
man [Quintessential] Azhar) writes:
>....
>	   Gimme dark eyes, black hair, and a heart of gold
>	   And, forever, my friend, I wont ask you for anymore
>
That's one hell of a surgical operation you are asking for my dear :).

--
Dark blackish eyes and raven hair can be captivating, even if the heart
is merely organic.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: sherwani@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Naveed Sherwani)
Subject: Re: Multiple wives
Summary: acquiring a wife in 1992----NOT
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 02:49:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.170150.30473@davidsys.com>, merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant) writes:
> In article <1992Aug19.183759.1@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu>, ali@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu writes:
> > In article <1992Aug18.101149.30461@davidsys.com>, merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant) writes:
> >> 
stuff deleted
> 
> > each his own and if someone feels he can treat more than one wife 
> > equally and his wives agree to it then it is their personal business.
> > I for one would shoot my good man in case he became interested in 
> > acquiring another wife.  No doubt about it!!
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> But then you would lose your good man!! ;-)  Just kidding!! I see your
> point.  But he has failed to respect your feelings if he does acquire
                                                                ^^^^^^^
> another wife without consideration to you.
> 
> > jahanara  
> >> 
> >> -Rukhsana Merchant
> 
> -Rukhsana
> 

Since we are on the topic of sexissm !

The circle I move in,  using a word like ACQUIRE to refer to GETTING 
MARRIED can be hazardous(sp?) to one's health. I would think that
such terminology has no place in modern times. I would think this term is
very sexist and very very rude (IMHO). 

I know both respected SCP posters were perhaps just using loose terminology.
I would like to point out females (and males) are not acquired,
bought, sold, etc. Those days are gone (hopefully) for good.

Interestingly enough, both the times a female poster used the term.

regards,

-Naveed
From: mughal@iago.caltech.edu (ASIM M MUGHAL)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: How the Europeans overtook the Arabs...
Date: 28 Aug 92 07:22:00 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <sebONji00VAwE2_pFI@andrew.cmu.edu>, ag3l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Arun K. Gupta) writes...
> 
>A book I looked at recently had three reasons why the
>Europeans were successful in taking over the sea-routes
>from the Arabs.
> 
>(i) Since the Mediterreanean was an Islamic pond (so the book
>says :-)), the Europeans had to learn to navigate in the much
>more inclement Atlantic.
> 
>(ii) Islam uses a muezzin to call for prayers; the Christians
>use church bells. The expertise in casting bronze bells was
>easily transferred to casting cannon.
> 
>(iii) general Middle Eastern shortage of timber !!
> 
>So, with skills honed in the unforgiving, stormy Atlantic,
>cheaper resources to build ships, and superior armaments,
>the Europeans edged out the Arabic and later Ottoman fleets.
> 
>Any comments ?

	Come on Arun, it can't be so simple and straight forward,

	amusing hypothesis though... :)

> 
>-arun gupta

	Btw, who is the author of the book ?

	Asim Mughal
	[Standard Discalimer]
From: merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Multiple wives
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:44:44 PST
Organization: DAVID Systems Inc, Sunnyvale CA

In article <22AUG199222582574@iago.caltech.edu>, mughal@iago.caltech.edu (ASIM M MUGHAL) writes:
> In article <1992Aug21.165517.30472@davidsys.com>, merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant) writes...
>>In article <1992Aug21.163826.30471@davidsys.com>, merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant) writes:
>>> IMHO, a woman is not suited to a relationship with more than one husband.
>>> It has to do with the way a woman loves, but I will stop here, since it is
> 
>      Hmm... what way is it different than how a man loves? He is willing to
>      give up *everthing* for her!
>      {play Mr. Bolton's song 'When the man loves a woman'}
> 
>>-Rukhsana Merchant 
> 
> Asim Mughal

My sentiments sung more appropriately by Steve Warner in "A woman loves."
---

[...]

	A woman loves beyond her questions,

		Dreams beyond her doubts.

	Her heart will lead and she will follow,

		Even when there is no way out.

	Her eyes refuse to see the danger, 

		As she walks right through the fire.

	A man may give himself to passion and desire,

		But a woman loves.

	A woman loves.....

[...]

---

Rukhsana Merchant

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: kka@philabs.philips.com (Khurram K. Afridi)
Subject: test
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff Manor, NY.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:02:33 GMT

Just a test message....

unless you are looking for me, in which case your curiosity
paid off.......

Khurram Afridi
kka@philabs.philips.com
From: a9@public.BTR.COM (Ashar Nisar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: cheese, brownies and ftp (was Re: The RAG...special edition)
Keywords: chichoray
Date: 4 Sep 92 06:53:50 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: BTR

In article <1992Aug31.231236.17115@leland.Stanford.EDU> arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan) writes:
>****************************************************************************
>		THE RAG
>****************************************************************************
>
>Ashar Husain invited all of us( a large group) to a party on Saturday. A great 
       ^^^^^
>host and a great party, the chees was great. Real spicy cheese. 
>

Husain??... that's what you get for inviting unknown people to your party  :-)

and does your definition of a "great host" mean  someone who
invites many people and then stand aloof in a corner (like I did)?

by the way, you never finished your fifth helping of brownies (but 
of course, who's counting)  :-)

-ashar NISAR  (not Husain)

PS: the recipie for the real spicy cheese is availabe via ftp from 
    salma.ka.dasturkhwaan.lahore.pk