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From: laux@lxki.toppoint.de (Thorsten Laux)
Subject: Zyxel, Fax and SVR4
Keywords: Zyxel, Fax
Organization: Private uucp site
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 12:47:22 GMT

Does anybody have a zyxel sending and receiving fax under SVR4 without
problems yet ? Last time i checked netfax it had too many problems
with the zyxel to be usefull at all. I have a U-1496, ROM Version 5.01
and Dell SVR4.

Thanks Thorsten


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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: vulture@imperial.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau)
Subject: Re: Fax with encryption?
Reply-To: cmaae47@imperial.ac.uk
Organization: Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 19:59:59 GMT

In article <C0oMzE.LD6@newsserver.technet.sg>, mathias@solomon.technet.sg (Mathias Koerber) writes:
- Having bought a Fax-Modem recently (OAFax 9648), I started wondering whether
- it wouldn't be possible to encrypt faxes. Not only in Software but also
- in standard Fax machines. I guess for a good encryption scheme, one would
- have to scan in the page into internal memory, then enter a bignum as key,
- all lines get encrypted on the fly while sending, and the receiving station
- stores the encrypted pages in memory. Then a special function asks for the
- bignum, decrypts and prints.
- 
- Naturally that would need machines with some memory, but modern
- faxmachines have quite some of it around, and with PC's and fax-modems
- it would even be easier.
- 
- Q1: Is there such a standard, or will it come? Will it contain a flag
- in the header to tell the receiving machine that the fax in encrypted
- and needs a key to print out?

You can either encrypt the TEXT of the fax message, which the receiving
fax machine will then print out as a faithful rendering of the garbage
that comes out of the crypter.

Or you can view the bitstream that represents the pixels on a sheet of
paper as a message, and encrypt that. This would need a configurable lookup
table in the receiving fax machine, and a keyword exchange mechanism, 
presumably a public key system. For this it would probably be easier
to use a different modulation scheme - i.e. do the encryption at the
physical/data link interface than at the transport or presentation
layer. 

But since you would give up the unversality of fax for security, you 
might as well go the whole hog and use encrypted email to send your
message - including scans of handwritten text and drawings. Probably 
much cheaper in the long run.

                                 Thomas

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: sbm@pt.com (Steve McGowan)
Subject: FAX board drivers
Organization: Performance Technologies, Incorporated
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:04:02 GMT

I am looking for an Borland C library, TSR or something similar that will allow
me to add FAX transmission capability to a windows or DOS application.
It would be useful if it worked with a variety of PC FAX/modems.  Like
WinFAX Pro, but with a programming interface. Are there any products that
could help me or is there another newsgroup that I should be posting this
request to?

Thanks in advance,

Steve.
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From: sichermn@csulb.edu (Jeff Sicherman)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Toby Nixon to work at Microsoft
Date: 9 Jan 93 09:00:52 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

In article <6614.2b481de4@hayes.com> tnixon@hayes.com writes:
>I have accepted a position as a Program Manager in the Digital 
>Communications section of the Advanced Technology and Business
>Development group with Microsoft Corporation in Redmond, Washington.

  Poor guy seems to have an affinity for litigation-oriented companies.


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From: richm@CIS.Prime.COM (Richard Mutter)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Satisfaxtion/200
Date: 8 Jan 93 10:50:44 GMT
Reply-To: richm@CIS.Prime.COM
Organization: Computervision R&D Ltd

Please note - UK Posting!!

Last year, I bought an Intel SatisFAXtion/200 for my
Royale 486/33. I couldn't get it to work at all, and was
referred by the supplier to Intel Tech. Support. They
were very good, told me that the /200 `didn't work in
the UK' (no reason given), and offered me a replacement
of the original SatisFAXtion board. This didn't work
either, and I discovered that my problem was the lead
to the phone socket. So I tried the /200 again, as it is a
far superior piece of kit with MNP5 and V.42 (and only
half length), and it worked sending both by fax and modem,
but when someone tried to send to me by either means, the
phone line went funny (faint ringing sound on the line) and
didn't recover until I switched the PC off completely.

I really want to use the /200 as it has error-correction and
compression, so can anyone help me and tell me why it
doesn't let me receive anything.

BTW, I am still on an analogue exchange; is this the problem?

Thank you for your help,

Richard Mutter





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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: ron@rss.dl.nec.com (Ron Guest)
Subject: GNU/MIT NetFAX 3.2.1
Reply-To: ron.guest@rss.dl.nec.com
Organization: NEC America
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:48:13 GMT

We installed this package and tried it with our Zoom
14.4 FAXmodems.  Transmission and reception of FAXes does not
quite work, however.  Is there any hope of getting this to work?

If we send a FAX, the receiving FAX machine displays a COMM ERR
after starting up.  Any hints about what to fix, or whether to give
up, would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance (e-mail reply is preferred).


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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modems
From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Toby Nixon to work at Microsoft
Organization: Cuddlehogs Anonymous
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 04:11:11 GMT

In article <6614.2b481de4@hayes.com> tnixon@hayes.com writes:
:I have accepted a position as a Program Manager in the Digital 
:Communications section of the Advanced Technology and Business
:Development group with Microsoft Corporation in Redmond, Washington.

Bwahahahahaha!  Talk about out of the frying pan...  is this a personal
preference or is it just impossible to get well-paid work in the states
unless you prostitute youself to litigous scum?

Oh well, it'll at least be a whole lot easier to read your postings about
modems now, without continually rankling about Hayes.  Say, do we get any
good gossip now?

G
From: majors@carson.u.washington.edu (Robert Majors)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: want opinions on Richoh 4000L
Date: 8 Jan 1993 17:47:20 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

I'm doing some purchasing research for a FAX machine that has paper-
scanning ability.  Since we're on the Internet, we can probably send
the majority of computer files over the network, but we'd like to be
able to on occasion send computer-based documents out on the FAX, and
wonder if it is worth it to pay for a FAX which would interface with 
our AppleTalk network (or even a single Macintosh).  We've had the 
Richoh 4000L recommended.  Any thoughts on a good FAX machine for
our application? (Please reply direct)

-Bob
majors@u.washington.edu
From: dkw@wolferts.ka.sub.org (Klaus Wolferts)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Re: Fax Software...
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 19:24:48 MESZ
Distribution: world               
Organization: Ing'Buro f. EDV + Elektronik, D-7500 Karlsruhe 31

jcburt@gatsibm.larc.nasa.gov () writes:

> I just recently purchased a Digicom Scout+ Fax/Modem for my Insight 386-33 
> machine running DOS 5.0...the modem part runs fine, not a single problem 
> with it... I'm having trouble with the Fax software for it...Bundled with 
> the Fax/Modem is Delrine's DosFax Lite software...  
> [ ... ]  
> I can't fingure out *how* to print an incoming fax to my printer...
> the manual & program say to do it via VIEW...one little problem...
> VIEW IS NOT SUPPORTED for a CGA display!!! I don't want to VIEW the frigging 
> thing, I want to PRINT the frigging thing!!!! 

Try within the DosFax Lite Administrator the  
RECEIVE    menu, then 
RECEIVE LOG ...   then select the fax to be printed and
PRINT FAX ...  and select the pages to print.

> Second problem...
> 
> If you haven't guessed by now, I got fed up with DosFax Lite and installed
> BitFax which I think is *much* better...
> [ ... ]
> Only one little problem...
> I couldn't get the printer driver to work properly with my printer (Panasonic
> KX-P1124). The printer itself has worked flawlessly with every other software
> package I've used, but when I try to print a Fax, the printer goes into
> graphics mode (which it should do), prints most of the page header line, and
> then starts giving me continuous form-feeds...I've tried this with several
> incoming faxes and had the same results...apparently the printer is dropping 
> out of graphics mode and tries to interpret the incoming binary data as 
> ASCII characters...the faxes themselves look fine when I view them on the 
> screen, I just can't get it to reliably print them...suggestions?

Perhaps the parameters in the file printer.cap didn't match the printer 
exactly or the init string or emulation mode is wrong. Especially the 
horizontal resolution/line length could cause this effect, as some 
printers switch to text mode after line wrap, if graphics would exhaust 
the line length.
 
> Finally, does *anyone* have any suggestions / recommendations for fax software
> packages to run on a 386 class machine running MS-DOS 5.0 ?

Get a VGA adapter and monitor and try WinFax Lite, which is bundled with
the Scout plus too. 

Klaus
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Zyxel, Fax and SVR4
Date: 11 Jan 1993 22:40:54 +0100
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1
Keywords: Zyxel, Fax

In comp.dcom.fax, article <1iq1gbINNp9b@smurf.sub.org>,
  urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs) writes:
> 
> NB: I didn't yet test receiving extensively; that's next. Just hooking
> the Zyxel up, replacing /bin/login with a hook that forks the fax receiver
> when it's called with CONNECT FAX as arguments, seems to work. Are there
> any timing restrictions at this point?
> 
Receiving works flawlessly, PROVIDED that you convince Netfax to send
0x12 instead of 0x11 to the Zyxel when starting to receive a new page.

Apparently the standard changed this over two years ago, and most other 
modems still also accept 0x11 as a compatibility kludge.

I also set things up so that all dialog between modem and computer
happens at 38400 baud, hardware handshake only. (When sending a fax, the
Zyxel conveniently does both.)

The +FHNG:40 error after sending a page is still there; does anybody know
what causes it and/or any way around it? I tried playing with data formats
(+FBOR on/off, bitswapping on/off) but no improvement.

NB: Some systems fake POSIX. Specifically, under A/UX 

Real patches will be available once sending faxes works.

Zyxel setup, 5.2 ROMs, in case it is relevant for the +FHNG:40 problem:
 B0   E0   L7   M1   N1   Q0   V0   X5  
&B1  &C0  &D3  &G0  &H3  &J0  &K4  &L0  &M0  &N0  &P0  &R1  &S0  &X0  &Y1  
*B0  *C0  *D0  *E0  *F0  *G0  *I0  *L0  *M1  *P9  *Q2  *S0  

S00=001   S01=000   S02=043   S03=013   S04=010   
S05=008   S06=003   S07=120   S08=001   S09=006   
S10=007   S11=070   S12=000   S13=000   S14=003   
S15=002   S16=000   S17=018   S18=002   S19=000   
S20=002   S21=226   S22=000   S23=042   S24=226   
S25=000   S26=000   S27=156   S28=068   S29=000   
S30=000   S31=017   S32=019   S33=000   S34=030   
S35=000   S36=000   S37=000   S38=008   S39=000   
S40=002   S41=000   S42=012   S43=000   S44=000   
S45=000   S46=000   S47=000   S48=000   S49=000   

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modems
From: karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger)
Subject: Re: Zyxel, Fax and SVR4
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 17:27:02 GMT
Organization: MCSNet, Chicago, IL
Keywords: Zyxel, Fax

In article <1993Jan10.154459.19741@hp1.holl.com> dave@hp1.holl.com (David Vrona) writes:
>In article <1993Jan9.124722.23461@lxki.toppoint.de> laux@lxki.toppoint.de (Thorsten Laux) writes:
>>Does anybody have a zyxel sending and receiving fax under SVR4 without
>>problems yet ? Last time i checked netfax it had too many problems
>>with the zyxel to be usefull at all. I have a U-1496, ROM Version 5.01
>>and Dell SVR4.
>>
>
>I'm helping uri@watson.ibm.com debug his version of netfax on my Dell SVR4
>machine (1496E v5.02).
>
>So far, fax send works (sometimes the Zyxel fax send bug shows up).  I just started
>working with receive.

To be truly useful, you need also to have >stand alone< send and receive
programs, much as UUCP does.  Netfax does not do this, and as such it is of
limited usefullness to me.

This characteristic (shared access, one monolith) appears to be deeply
enough embedded in the code as to be inseparable.

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Data Line: [+1 312 248-0900]
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modems
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Toby Nixon to work at Microsoft
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:41:39 GMT

tnixon@hayes.com writes:
>I have accepted a position as a Program Manager in the Digital 
>Communications section of the Advanced Technology and Business
>Development group with Microsoft Corporation in Redmond, Washington.

Geez, you sure can pick the companies.  They don't deserve you,
congrats.  As a final joke, you shoulda formatted it as a press
release! 
-- 
Familiarity breeds.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: wcsv2k@alfred.carleton.ca (Bill St. Arnaud)
Subject: Video FAX
Summary: VIDEO FAX product announced
Keywords: Video Multimedia FAX
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:43:40 GMT

Kalman Technologies of Vancouver announced a new Video FAX product to
be available in the 1st quarter of 1993.


Video FAX will be a superset of new BFT protocol and will give the
user the ability to send and receive full motion video files over a
FAX at 9600 bps.  The system compresses fractal video files and
decompresses at 30 frames per second.


Video FAX is part of Kalman's Multimedia communications system for FAX
called HydraWorks.

For more information call Kalman Technology at +1 604 684-3118 or
FAX(video/data) at +1 604 684-2324

Bill St. Arnaud                         Internet: wcsv2k@ccs.carleton.ca
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modems
From: sl@wimsey.bc.ca (Stuart Lynne)
Subject: Re: Toby Nixon to work at Microsoft
Organization: Wimsey Information Services
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:33:06 GMT

In article <6614.2b481de4@hayes.com> tnixon@hayes.com writes:
>I have accepted a position as a Program Manager in the Digital 
>Communications section of the Advanced Technology and Business
>Development group with Microsoft Corporation in Redmond, Washington.

Congratulations on the new job Toby. 

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: dave@revcan.rct.ca (David Blackwood)
Subject: Re: Fax with encryption?
Organization: Revenue Canada, Taxation; Office Communications Division
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:11:40 GMT

We use a third party add-on encryption device all the time to protect
our fax transmissions.  Not to guard against them being read by someone
else in the office but to guarantee that they cannot be intercepted or
much more importantly that they are not sent to some unauthorized third
party as a result of an operator mis-dialing the destination number.
There are a number of such devices on the market some approved for
commercial use and others for government use (with approval only :-).

There was a much publicized case in Canada where an employment centre
sent a list of all the unemployed people in a community to that
community's newspaper because an operator accidently pressed the wrong
speed disl button on their fax machine.
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Distribution: world
Date: Mon,  4 Jan 93 10:00:02 -0800
From: Zero_One@p101.f701.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: How to receveive multiple fax-pages with ZyXEL 1496E+?
Comment-To: Mike_Aerts@p101.f701.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Reply-To: Zero_One@p101.f701.n202.z1.fidonet.org
X-FSC-PATH: 202/701

 > In article <368@phoenix.abg.sub.org> usys@phoenix.abg.sub.org (Uwe
 > C. Schroeder) writes:
 >>mike@inftec.be (Mike Aerts) writes:
 >>
 >>>I'm writng my own tty monitor which allows me to dial-in/dial-out,
 >>>use callback facilities and send/receive faxes.
 >>Hi all,
 >>
 >>why do you use AT#B1 ??
 >>In this mode, the modem waits for a DC2 character to start sending
the
 >>data to the computer. This DC2 char must be sent for every page.
The DTE
 >>therefor should recognize the 'RTC' in the fax data and then send a
DC2
 >>to get the next page. Otherwise the modem times out and hangs up.
 >>If you are not in a BBS system, you can use AT#B0 mode, where the
data
 >>follows the CONNECT message untill the end of the document. One
then gets
 >>a single file with all pages in it. This can cause problems to the
viewing
 >>or converting tool.

 > Why AT#B1,
 > Because I want to use my modem for data and fax connections, and
 > be able to distinguish between both types.
 > My main problem is that they shipped me the documentation of a
 > ZyXEL 1496E with my E+ model, and that I'm still trying to find
 > out
 > where I can obtain the right documentation.

 > Thanks to all those who helped already, and to those who still
 > will
 > help.
 > When I'm finished with this (I hope by Jan 22, otherwise sometime
 > after Usenix) I will e-mail this to those who are interrested or
 > post it to alt.sources. It will have a copyright notice similar
 > to that of UCB.

Mike,

The E and the E+ are the exact same in terms of fax operations.  The
only commands that are different right now are for the voice
operations. The E+ has CELP implemented while the E does not.  When
19.2 becomes available, then there will be a command to set it to
19.2.  Those are the only differences in commands.

Tyrone Horton
(Zero One)
Tech Support
ZyXEL USA

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From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Toby Nixon to work at Microsoft
Date: 5 Jan 93 11:21:13 GMT
Followup-To: comp.dcom.fax

In article <6614.2b481de4@hayes.com> tnixon@hayes.com writes:
>I have accepted a position as a Program Manager in the Digital 
>Communications section of the Advanced Technology and Business
>Development group with Microsoft Corporation in Redmond, Washington.
>.....
>                                     I will continue to be involved 
>at least somewhat in modem and fax standards development, and so 
>hope to continue my role in dispelling myth, rumor, and 
>misunderstanding.

Thanks for being such a light in the darkness.

Wishing you the best for '93 and in your new position at Microsoft!

Dave

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Xref: sparky comp.dcom.fax:2410 comp.dcom.modems:19255
From: richter@egr.msu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Boca vs. Supra 14.4 modems.
Keywords: Supra Boca Modem 14.4
Date: 10 Jan 93 21:15:27 GMT
Reply-To: richter@egr.msu.edu
Organization: Michigan State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: frith.egr.msu.edu
Originator: richter@frith.egr.msu.edu

I would like to find out if any of you have any strong preference for Boca or
Supra brand 14.4 internal Fax/Modems. I can get both for about the same price
and I would like opinions on which is better. I will also consider other brands
if they are in the same price range. If there is interest, I can post a summary
to this group.

Thank you.

Jeff Alles

P.S. Thanks to Brent for allowing me to post this from his account.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: mathias@solomon.technet.sg (Mathias Koerber)
Subject: Fax with encryption?
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:14:01 GMT

Having bought a Fax-Modem recently (OAFax 9648), I started wondering whether
it wouldn't be possible to encrypt faxes. Not only in Software but also
in standard Fax machines. I guess for a good encryption scheme, one would
have to scan in the page into internal memory, then enter a bignum as key,
all lines get encrypted on the fly while sending, and the receiving station
stores the encrypted pages in memory. Then a special function asks for the
bignum, decrypts and prints.

Naturally that would need machines with some memory, but modern
faxmachines have quite some of it around, and with PC's and fax-modems
it would even be easier.

Q1: Is there such a standard, or will it come? Will it contain a flag
in the header to tell the receiving machine that the fax in encrypted
and needs a key to print out?

Just wondering...
Mathias

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