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From: cathy@techbook.com (Cathy Gaupo)
Subject: Pigs- Why are they the perfect pet?
Organization: TECHbooks of Beaverton Oregon - Public Access Unix
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 20:12:27 GMT

Someone wrote they just got a pig- and it's the perfect pet.

Why is it the perfect pet?
I haven't caught on to the pot bellied pig phase,
and I'm curious why they are so popular.

I can be reached at cathy@techbook.com,
but others might also be interested in
this newsgroup.  So direct your replies to either myself or the
group at large.

Thanks

Cathy

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From: teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (A. Lani Teshima)
Subject: Looking for Rosalie and Shogun
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:50:24 GMT

Sorry to waste net bandwidth, but I am trying to find Rosalie on the
East Coast, who has a horse named Shogun. rosalie if you're out there,
I lost your email address--please write!




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From: shazam@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: The Beluga Whales
Date: 27 Sep 92 17:03:46 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

Was it the humans who caused the extinction of the dinosaurs?
*smile*  Just something to think about.....because I do not think
that everytime there is an animal in danger of extinction, it is
the human's fault.

There ARE things we can do.....to help save the environment period.
And research is one of them, as it seems proven to me.
Maybe those scientists at Shedd could have done something differently,
but I can't imagine that anyone feels as horrible about the deaths
of those whales than they do.  I wonder how much work went into
that plan...and how long it took.

I am simply saying that there has got to be a solution that comes 
in between.  We can start with teaching our children not to make
the same mistakes some in our generation has made.  We can also
show them the beauty we wish to preserve and show them why it is
so important.

Thanks for listening!  No flames please, this is simply my opinion.
*smile*  Have a nice day!

M. SUzanne Sims
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From: king@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (joyce.l.king)
Subject: Beluga whales at Shedd...new information
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:03:47 GMT
Keywords: NOT LICENSED

According to my daughter, who lives in Chicago, the vet who
administered the injection to the Belugas was not licensed
to practice veterinary medicine in the state.  That comes from 
Chicago radio news.  It could be that they brought in a cetacean
specialist, but shouldn't he/she still have to be licensed in Illinois?   
Does anyone in Chicago have any more detailed information?

 
-- 
                       Joyce Andrews King
From: wls@astro.umd.edu (William L. Sebok)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Pigs- Why are they the perfect pet?
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:31:06 GMT
Organization: U. of Maryland @ College Park, Astronomy

In article <1992Sep28.212235.9716@mr.med.ge.com> scafati@thor.med.ge.com (Victor-charles Scafati 4-6784 MR Srv) writes:
>Smart as heck.  They really are.  They figure stuff out fast (sometimes a
>problem).  They are more vocally expressive than any other housepet I
>know of.

>Easily trained. If you can figure out how to get them to do something with
>food as a motivation, consider it done.  See: smart as heck.

I would be interested in hearing some details about things pigs figure out
and tricks they can be taught.

Clare Sebok

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From: kbourque@MtHolyoke.edu (Karen M. Bourque)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: parakeets in the wild!
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:39:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: mtholyok.BvEE5H.Jty
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


I'm writing on behalf of a friend who doesn't subscribe to newsgroups
about her sightings (two now!) of parakeets (one blue, one yellow) she's
seen flocking with chickadees!  They are obviously pets that escaped their
households.  Does anyone know the fate of these poor birds?

Could one easily catch one and bring it inside to save it?  I can't
imagine that a parakeet could survive a New England winter.  We've already
had a frost and it's getting cooler and cooler each day...

Any advice greatly appreciated!

Karen
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Inputs needed on armadillos and opossums
From: bproden@ualr.edu
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:12:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock

In article <29SEP199215101194@zeus.tamu.edu>, kbm8572@zeus.tamu.edu (BRYAN MILLIGAN) writes:
>                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> 	Then why did he throw them in with the cat?  Did he think he was doing
> them a favor?  Sheesh.
> 
> 
He wasn't trying to kill them, or he wouldn't have kept them around as pets
when the cat raised them.  He wanted to check her reaction.  If she had tried
to hurt them, he would have rescued them.

Brian Roden
Newsgroups: rec.pets,rec.pets.herp
From: jeffp@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (Jeff Parke;S10000)
Subject: Re: turtles
Keywords: looking for info
Organization: Washington State University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 19:31:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.143631.4860@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> time@coos.dartmouth.edu (Susan M. Kennedy) writes:
>Can anyone tell me why turtles are so hard to find and why they are so
>expensive?I imagine the reasons are connected. I'm looking for an ordinary box
>turtle(proper name?). Are there reputable mail order sources of turtles and other
>reptiles and their supplies?
>

I went through this same question a year ago.  Also regarding a box turtle.
I discovered that by talking with local pet stores, box turtles can be
ordered from their distributors.  The cost of same is in the 20-30 dollar
range.

Box turtles are usually gathered in the Spring when they are out and
about after a long winter's nap.  So, this is apparently the best time
to find a healthy specimen in a pet store.  There are some books out
which can give more details pertaining to what to look for in judging
the health of a store-bought turtle.

I felt rather fortunate in finding someone on the net out here in the
pnw who was looking to get rid of a box turtle.  It might be worthwhile
just to send out a little notice on local networks that you would be
interested in adopting a box turtle - perhaps you'll do one the favor
of providing an interested owner.

-Jeff
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Newsgroups: rec.pets,rec.pets.herp
From: melanie@cayman.amd.com (Melanie Typaldos)
Subject: Re: turtles
Keywords: looking for info
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., Austin, Texas
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 22:14:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.143631.4860@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> time@coos.dartmouth.edu (Susan M. Kennedy) writes:
>Can anyone tell me why turtles are so hard to find and why they are so
>expensive?I imagine the reasons are connected. I'm looking for an ordinary box
>turtle(proper name?). Are there reputable mail order sources of turtles and other
>reptiles and their supplies?
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>Susan (SMK@mac.dartmouth.edu)

Probably you didn't know that something like half of all chelonian
species (turtles and tortoises, there are ~350 species altogether)
are considered threatened or endangered.  Of course there are
exceptions like the red-ear slider which has attained a nearly
world-wide distribution.  

Aquatic turtles suffer from water polution (like most reptiles,
turtles are very sensitive to pesticides), diversion and 
damming of rivers and streams and competition with introduced
species (for example sport fish which eat the young turtles).

Tortoises have mainly suffered from habitat destruction.  This
has been responsible for the decline of the gopher tortoise of
the south-eastern US along with many others.  The pet trade
has had a seriously negative impact on some species.

Now as to the American box turtles, I'd have to say that habitat
destruction has been the main reason for their decline.  These
turtles are extremely long-lived (I think the official record
is around 130 years), take a long time to mature and have a
relatively low reproductive potential.  Their habitat has been
diced up by roads, subdivisions and farming.  Their foods poluted
pesticdes and herbicds and, in addition, they have been heavily
collected by the pet trade.  You might be surprised to learn
that these once common animals are considered threatened through-
out much of their range. They are still relatively 
common and unprotected here in Texas but I think that this is
not the case in the New England states and in parts of the
midwest.  Before you get one, you should check on their status
in your area.

Sorry to lecture but I`ve seen a few too many dead box turtles
on the road lately and way too many held in cramped quarters
(20 gal aquarium with 20 turtles in it) in pets stores lately.
Box turtles breed readily in captivity, see if you can get
one from a breeder.

----Melanie
Melanie (Melanie Typaldos)        melanie@cayman.amd.com  
AMD 29K Systems Engineering
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: myhui@bnr.ca (Michael Hui)
Subject: Re: Rabbits and growling
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 92 15:19:12 GMT

In article <mstrange.718122812@cunews> mstrange@alfred.carleton.ca (N E N Strangelove) writes:
>Has anyone ever experienced their rabbit growling and hissing?
>Yesterday I was vacuuming and Balrey attacked the vacuum, hissing and growling.

My 15 lbs baby boy rabbit does that every night when he runs circles.
<< Hmmm Hmm Hmmmm Hmmmmm ! ! >>  << wheez wheez wheeez ... >>

I'v even started to do it too once he starts doing it.           :-)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: kbm8572@zeus.tamu.edu (BRYAN MILLIGAN)
Subject: Re: Inputs needed on armadillos and opossums
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:10:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.122540.1@ualr.edu>, bproden@ualr.edu writes...
>Buddy also found two baby possums on a fencepost (the first one morning, the
>second the next) during a flood.  The mother had put them there to get them out
>of the water.  He brought them home and threw them in the bottom dresser drawer
>with a cat who had just had a litter of kittens.  He figured she'd treat them 
>like rats and try to kill them.  
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	Then why did he throw them in with the cat?  Did he think he was doing
them a favor?  Sheesh.


bryan

kbm8572@zeus.tamu.edu (VAX 9000)
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	I'm very selective about the reality I accept.

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From: GEN5075@Husky1.StMarys.Ca (CLAIRE MOXON)
Subject: hedgehog care
Organization: St. Mary's University, Halifax, N.S., Canada
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:10:37 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.13.SMU

I collect hedgehogs myself - but not real ones.  My grandmother in England
started me on the habit and now I have over 300 in various forms - china,
stone, stuffed animals, etc.  

I also have a variety of books on them.  I do know that they often have
a tendency to attract fleas and other small insects, so if your mom
wants to keep it in the house, she might want a vet to check it over first
for little bugs and whatnot.  I suppose one could use flea spray or 
some other dog/cat powder on a hedgehog too.  

It is most unusual to hear of one in the wild in the U.S., and as someone
else suggested, it might be an escaped pet or zoo animal.  I do believe
that they can bite as well, so I would suggest approaching it with caution.

A lot of people tend to confuse hedgehogs with porcupines.  I hope someone
has not given your mom the wrong information concerning the animal, since
a porcupine's quills can hurt a lot.  A hedgehog's quills don't come out
like a porcupine's do.  

Anyway, my grandmother attracts them to her backyard with bread soaked in
milk in a small dish.  They are nocturnal, so doing this in the evening is
best, and keep an eye on it, since other small animals such as raccoons and
cats might be equally interested in it.

Good luck.

Claire in Halifax
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: cam@milton.u.washington.edu (Cameron Ritchie)
Subject: Bunny battle scars
Summary: rabbit's ear was cut - is a vet visit required?
Keywords: rabbit injuries
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:39:16 GMT

Here's a bunny story and a question -
Peanut, or as-of-yet-unspayed female Holland lop (she will be fixed soon),
recently moved with us into a new apartment.  It turns out that our next
door neighbor has a male and female pair of fixed holland lops, so we had
been cautiously introducing the pair to Peanut.  Well, one afternoon 
Peanut seemed eager to visit, and Romeo and Juliet (the other pair) seemed
ready for company, so Peanut dashed out our door, into the neighbor's apartment
and before we could stop her, ran up behind Juliet and nipped her on the butt.

Well, suffice it so say, Juliet was not pleased.  Before we had a chance
to move, these two were on each other and the fur was flying and then Peanut
was out the door and back in our place.  The whole battle couldn't have taken
more then 5 seconds.  Well, Peanut, even though she weighs twice as much
as Juliet and is six months older, is a big wuss and got her butt soundly
kicked.  (Any good bunny assertiveness training schools around?).

Other than the psychological scars, Peanut ended up with a small flap of skin
peeled back on one of her ears.  It didn't seem to hurt as she didn't yelp
when it happened, and she let us put hydrogen peroxide on it (after we
got her out from under the bed).  Well, the incident is four days old
now, and the area around the cut is only slightly red and not hot to the touch.
Also, it doesn't seem to hurt because she lets us examine it.  The question is
how serious is an injury like this, and does it warrant a trip to the vet?  We
were going to take her right away, but she isn't worrying at it and seems fine.
How potent are bunny recuperative powers, and how do we assure that the cut
has not become infected?

Many thanks.

Cam

Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
From: rxb@vaxeline.ftp.com (Rachel Banko)
Subject: Re: Full spectrum lighting
Organization: FTP Software, Inc., Wakefield, MA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:50:38 GMT

I seem to remember something called Vita-Light being sold
in health food stores.




Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
From: lind@ll.mit.edu (Tom Lind)
Subject: Re: The Joys of Large Birdies (was:  Re: Macaw (and Cockatoos))
Followup-To: rec.pets.birds
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 17:15:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.113516.6968@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>,
bgt@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (barbara.tongue) wrote:

                         ((Stuff deleted))

> What about large macaws and children?  The Mother Tongue used to have
> a BlueFronted Amazon, who relished kiddy fingers at all times (that
> bird *could* defeat godzilla).  i would think that a large parrot raised
> with people and not teased would be gentle...what have been your experiences?


						I'd also like to hear from some people on this subject.  My wife and
I have an 8 year old domestic-bred cockatiel (Herbie) and a one year old
hand-fed, hand-raised Red Shouldered Macaw (Mr Chips).  They are as
different as night and day, but give great enjoyment.  We are considering
another bird (yes, we've been birdeeized..) and would appreciate any
experiences, particularly with chesnut-fronted macaws and yellow-naped
amazons.

					I've been following this group for about a year and have gained much
from the advice and stories posted here - thanks to all who participate.

Thomas A. Lind  < lind@ll.mit.edu >   |   Work Hard, tell everyone every-
Electrooptical Devices Group          |   thing you know, close a deal
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From: Stephen.Ceideburg@f501.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (Stephen Ceideburg)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: The Joys of Large Birdie
Date: 1 Oct 92 16:37:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: wyrm.718096044.0


BA>to be honest, though, when i was looking for another birdie (after
BA>darry ran off with my SO), i was considering a cockatoo, but the
BA>allergy warnings (i'm one of the few peoples who are allergic to oxygen,
BA>sunlight and breathing) kept me away.  is the dust really that bad?

     Yes, it really is.


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From: mbevan@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Mark Bevan)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: full spectrum lighting
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 01:28:11 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

grecoj@ecf.toronto.edu (GRECO Gianfranco) writes:

Is there a certain place where they are ?

They can be purchased at any good lighting or hardware store. 
Phone around.

Mark

Mark Bevan              mbevan@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
From: mhm104@access.digex.com (Mitch Markowitz)
Subject: Time between Molting
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:12:53 GMT

Hello all!

     It seems to me, that my Cockatiels molt almost every two or three weeks.  Is this normal or does it vary between birds? I would appreciate any advice/answers.  Thanks!


                                        Mitchell Markowitz

Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
From: mawells@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: re: macaws (gen. info)
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:50:03 GMT

To all who e-mailed me with suggestions, ideas, and info about macaws,
THANK YOU.  Yes, I read Bird Talk (on occasion).  I work at Gally but
am not deaf, although sometimes with my menagerie it would be helpful.
The bird I inquired about is comeing from a good home.  The owner
does not want to give it up but apparently circumstances may dictate
otherwise.  It is tame, friendly so hopefully everything will work out
for owner, bird, and maybe us.

Someone asked about shelters.  They do not seem to advertise for birds
like they do dogs and cats so I would suggest you contact your local 
shelter.  They do not get as many birds (and other animals) as dogs/cats
so you may need to wait for quite a while.

Thanks again to all who responded.  For those looking for a new pet,
try your shelter and GOOD LUCK!!!


(NETS ARE THE BEST THING FOR INFO AND NEW FRIENDS)

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From: mawells@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Macaws (gen. info)
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:30:10 GMT
Organization: Gallaudet University

Recently I took my dog to an area shelter to get tattooed.  While there I
filled out an application for a macaw (if one comes in).  Then I realized
macaws may be ALOT different taking care of than cockateil, parakeets, or
amazon parrots.

Can anyone tell me about their care, feeding, and general characteristics.
I also intend to get a book about macaws.  Of course, if it is not practical
for me or they are too difficult a bird, I will not adopt.

Thanks for any advice offered.
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
From: mike@crg4.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Aksmanovic)
Subject: What is your birdies favorite type of music?
Keywords: music birdies
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:10:19 GMT

Hi,

I wonder what kind of music other Birdies like. My amazon likes most
kinds of music, but has a special liking for anything with a wailing
guitar solo (wailing guitar? I'll show you wailing -SCREECH-) or a
soprano singing in an opera (high C? I'll show you a high C
-SCREECH-).

Maybe we could create a Birdie top 40??

Cheers,
	Mike Aksmanovic - mike@crg4.uwaterloo.ca

/ There is one last reason for caring ... the reason why so many people have  \
| devoted their lives to protecting the likes of rhinos, parakeets, kakapos   |
| and dolphins. And it is simply this: the world would be a poorer, darker,   |
\ lonelier place without them. - M. Carwardine (Last Chance to See)           /
From: rdmiller@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Ruth D Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: lovebirds
Keywords: lovebirds
Date: 29 Sep 92 06:48:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: matt.1aa1dfINNk5i
Distribution: usa
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

In article <11389@risky.Convergent.COM> mwish@risky.Convergent.COM (Marilyn Wisher) writes:
>Where are all the lovebird owners?  I would like to hear 
>from you about your tiny terrors!
>Marilyn

Ok, latest lovebird story--players are Tangier, 5 yr old female; Jasper,
2 yr old female (Tangier's daughter, named after her dad) and Cinnabar,
3 yr old male and Jasper's mate.  All are Fischer's lovebirds, none is
finger-tame.

I am in the habit of putting the kids in their travel cages and taking them
outside in the afternoons for an hour or so of sunshine, which is good for
them.  This operation used to be hailed with horror by all concerned (they
live in a big 2' x 3' x 4' high cage, indoors, most of the time.)  But lately
they have decided they like being outside, and they fight for position in
the "best" cage, which is of course the smallest one.  Jasper and Cinnabar
go together, but Tangier is never in a small cage with Jasper for reasons
which will become obvious:

I got out the smaller cage, set it up with open doors btwn it and the big
cage, and went outside for _1_ minute to check the bench I put the cages on.
When I returned all 3 "love" birds were in the smaller cage (8" x12" or so)
and while Cinnabar cowered in a corner Jasper and Tangier were locked in
mortal combat on the cage floor, silent, beaks full of eachothers' feathers,
feathers everywhere!  I quick stuck my hand in the cage and grabbed the
nearest combatant--they were so involved they didn't notice--separated them
and herded Tangier back into the big cage.  Fortunately no one suffered 
worse than the loss of beakfuls of feathers.  _Love_birds, huh.  Whoever
named these little devils never watched them for long, I'll bet!

I really must get Tangier a mate, or they'll kill eachother--or more likely
Cinnabar, fighting over him! :-)

Ruth
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
From: rocky@socrates.umd.edu (Rocky Giannini)
Subject: Ring necked parakeets?
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 00:37:24 GMT


Hi,

I was paying a visit to the local bird store today and played with a very
friendly ring necked parakeet for a while.

Could someone tell me how these birds do as pets (talking ability, life
span etc)?  The store was asking 225.00 for the bird.  They said he was
about 5 months old.

Thanks!
-Rocky

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From: consult16@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: re: What is your birdies favorite type of music?
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:45:48 GMT
Reply-To: consult16@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

Well, It's really hard to say with my green-cheeked conure as far as music on
the radio.  But he really enjoys it when I sing to him.  He starts in with a
frenzied "peep peep peep" and bobs excitedly.  He really seems to enjoy it.  At
least someone enjoys my singing.  :)