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From: x3460afe@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: oops...i almost forgot...
Date: 23 Nov 92 09:02:15 GMT
Reply-To: x3460afe@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida - CIRCA


    from the white-out desk of caroliner rainbow:

oh yeah, in case you didn't know.....martin duffy is now in that absolutely
shitty band 'primal scream', where practically all of his talent has been
either completely shrouded or whittled away to almost nothing.....
and they make him wear those big, stupid, floppy hats.....

    -   caroliner fishing pole wattage remover.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:52:37 EST
From: <CXC225@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: the cure

does anyone know anything about we hate rock and roll by the cure?  I hear it h
as early takes and live takes of some of thier songs.  Any info appreciated!
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: Cannam@quattro.sc.ZIB-Berlin.de (Chris Cannam)
Subject: Re: SCREAMING TREES/review of latest & Darling Buds
Organization: Konrad Zuse Zentrum fuer Informationstechnik Berlin
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 10:49:21 GMT



In article <sf28k5a00WBO8=B1oz@andrew.cmu.edu> "Megan E. Dietz" <md3n+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

   >>What? The Darling Buds and the Screaming Trees in the same sentence? I
   >>don't see any comparison. Am I missing something?
   >>
   >Yes, you must have missed "Crawdaddy".  EVERY song on that album is great
   >and it is a much better album than the latest by the Trees.  Just talked to
   >Andrea last Saturday at her show here in Athens--see them live..

    I just don't see any similarities between the two bands other than the
   fact that they both have vegetation in their names.


No, I don't get it either.  Except that I suppose they're both vaguely
`indie' bands, what _have_ they got in common?

Incidentally, I saw the Darling Buds live a couple of years ago. Quite
boring.  Best thing they played was a New Order cover[*], which I must
admit they did make a pretty good job of.

						Chris




[*] `Temptation', in case you wondered.

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From: bgl@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Bruce Lamond)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Cure Music
Date: 15 Nov 92 15:46:21 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

In article <1992Nov13.171519.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>, avac002@csc.canterbury.ac.nz writes:
> 
> 
> Does anyone know if the cures soundtrack to canage visors (originally avaliable
> with the faith cassette) is avaliable on cd or if the cure have done any other
> soundtrack type work. I think the thing I like the most about the cure is the
> mood they create with their music. If they wrote songs with less singing in
> them (and the words are pretty sparse in many of their songs anyway) they
> wouldn't have the problem of feeling cliched about the depresso rut that they
> obviously want to grow out of.
> Alot of their stuff with the lyrics removed is just plain powerful , graceful
> or bueatiful , and something they're very good at.
> I hope they don't break up because they can't see their way past a rut that pop
> culture holds them in.
> 
> 

No, Carnage Visors was only ever available on the flip side of the Faith tape. They
haven't done any other soundtrack work as such, but Grinding Halt was used on the
soundtrack to a film called Times Square (I think).

As far as instrumental stuff goes, I think you're right. They should do more because
these days their lyrics are getting a bit tired.  There were rumours of an
instrumental album called Music For Dreams being recorded and released simultaneously
with Wish, but obviously it never happened.  Apparently they recorded about four
tracks, and then gave up, because 'it was just like recording the same type of song
but without me singing' as Robert put it. His last word on the subject were that they
might go back to it, or they might just release the four tracks as as EP.  I hope
they release it in some form anyway.

Cheers,

Bruce.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: kforward@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Ken Forward)
Subject: Pearl Jam [is|is_not] 70's rock (was Re: 70's rock)
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:32:38 GMT

2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>Lived through it...it sucked...I like PJ...for a variety of reasons
>
> [ Several good points deleted only for the sake of brevity]
>
>...Besides..Ive seen PJ 4 times now..and not once did they include 
>the obligatory 12 minute drum solo that the 70's rock world created...
>chuckle...

Nasty things, those... :-)

> I do think that they have a bit of an edge over the 70s rock thing...
> they dont wallow in the excesses that trademarked that sound...

Agreed...

> The above post is not a flame...

No flame offense taken; I too started this threed in good faith. But 
I will say that I've received several email messages from (under 25) 
Pearl Jam fans who enjoy 70's rock and see some connection... as do I, 
which is why I don't like either ;-)
-- 
  Ken Forward, Dept of Physics, Memorial University of Newfoundland
   <kforward@crosby.physics.mun.ca> | <kforward@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>
   " I'll skank on your grave. " -Jeff to Akbar (Akbar to Jeff?)-
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From: kolsson1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Kris Olsson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Cure Music
Date: 15 Nov 92 17:13:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: cc.P47SB9B7
Organization: Swarthmore College

In article <BxrL5A.2D4@dcs.ed.ac.uk>, bgl@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Bruce Lamond)
writes:
> 
> In article <1992Nov13.171519.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>, avac002@csc.canterbury.ac.nz writes:
> > 
> > 
> > Does anyone know if the cures soundtrack to canage visors (originally avaliable
> > with the faith cassette) is avaliable on cd or if the cure have done any other
> > soundtrack type work. I think the thing I like the most about the cure is the
> > mood they create with their music. If they wrote songs with less singing in
> > them (and the words are pretty sparse in many of their songs anyway) they
> > wouldn't have the problem of feeling cliched about the depresso rut that they
> > obviously want to grow out of.
> > Alot of their stuff with the lyrics removed is just plain powerful , graceful
> > or bueatiful , and something they're very good at.
> > I hope they don't break up because they can't see their way past a rut that pop
> > culture holds them in.
> > 
> > 
> 
> No, Carnage Visors was only ever available on the flip side of the Faith tape. They
> haven't done any other soundtrack work as such, but Grinding Halt was used on the
> soundtrack to a film called Times Square (I think).
> 
The Armed Forces Radio and Television Service in Tokyo uses the first few
seconds of "Torture" for station identification. Ironic...
From: wilsonandrew@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: STRANGE BOUTIQUE?
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:01:37 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA


	ANYBODY IN INTERNETLAND LIKE STRANGE BOUTIQUE?  
ANYBODY HEARD OF STRANGE BOUTIQUE?
ANYBODY CARE?
HOW BOUT THE MAGNOLIAS?
From: mcp@canctr.mc.duke.edu (Laura J. Weislo)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Superchunk
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:50:50 GMT
Reply-To: mcp@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

>
>Also, I figure from the credits that they're from North Carolina (am I
>right?), which made me think that a lot of the really distinctive bands
>that I've liked over time are from what would in general be called the
>South, e.g., early Fetchin' Bones, Antietam, Pylon, Eleventh Dream Day....
>
>Lena
>
There are lots of great bands here in the "triangle" as it is called...
A compilation is now available on "Crisis" records called "Starter"
which has a bunch of really great stuff on it.  Also, look out for
a band called "Capsize 7" - they're incredible, and should have
a 7" out early next year.  Superchunk is only the beginning....

************************************************************
	!!!!			Laura J. Weislo
	 ^^			Duke University
	 @@			Dept. of Chemistry
	  )			Weisl001@dukemc.bitnet
	 0			Weisl001@mc.duke.edu
	"YOU'RE MY FORTUNE COOKIE PRIZE" - BEAT HAPPENING
************************************************************
From: rob@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Rob Vaughn,302 Thurston Hall,50637,2730428)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Big Black!!
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:22:26 GMT
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Originator: rob@snoopy.msc.cornell.edu

JJB:

>You have their best material, in this person's opinion.  _Atomizer_ is
>one of the best albums by anybody.  But, definately pick up _The Hammer
>Party_.

Actually, after years of agreeing with this, I've decided that _Songs About
Fucking_ is actually slightly better, mostly due to consistancy.

>I haven't the foggiest idea what
> Santiago Durango is up to, and I can never remember the bassist's name.

Durango is a practicing full-time lawyer in Chicago.  Dave Riley (bass player)
isn't doing anything of note.

Rob

-- 

Rob Vaughn, Fugitive Systems Guy
Mat. Sci. Center Computing, Cornell University
rob@msc.cornell.edu - rob@crnlmsc2.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: kotsines@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (KOTSINES  THOMAS ANT)
Subject: Re: Cure Music
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:38:16 GMT

In article <16992@umd5.umd.edu> cmoore@lab4.smcm.edu (Christopher Moore) writes:
>In article <1992Nov13.171519.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>  
>avac002@csc.canterbury.ac.nz writes:
>> RPM
> the cure have been saying that their next album is going to be entirely  
>instrumental, and called"music for dreams".  robert has again grown tired  
>of singing, so he says the next album will be instrumental.  of course, he  
>came up with the idea of "music for dreams" in 1984, and hasn't quite  
>followed through yet... 

That would be an incredible disc should they actually do it.  I've been
hearing that from "Fat Bob" for years and years, along with "this is the
last tour EVER", and "this is the last album".  I don't believe him anymore.

[/]


Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: nancyw@panix.com (Nancy Weiner)
Subject: Re: Morrissey on SNL
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:27:17 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

 this is true..I had tickets for smiths concerts that got cancelled last
minute..morrissey doesn't have a strong constitution and tends to fall ill
after a long tour.  I hope he makes it to ny tomorow night..he's playing a really small club...don;t know how they are going to keep people off the stage!
  
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: kolsson1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Kris Olsson)
Subject: Re: the cure
Organization: Swarthmore College
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:17:20 GMT

In article <92325.215237CXC225@psuvm.psu.edu>, <CXC225@psuvm.psu.edu>
writes:
> 
> does anyone know anything about we hate rock and roll by the cure?  I hear it h
> as early takes and live takes of some of thier songs.  Any info appreciated!
> 
I don't know anything about that, but on a bootleg called "Kiss Me For
Cure" made in Belgium there's this special version of a Forest with some
weird lyrics, and at the end Bob screams "Fick Robert Palmer, Fuck Rock and
Roll."
From: 21329KS@MSU
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: JaMC Mailing List Info
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:02:20 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

I have 6 names for the JaMC list. I'll  mail something tommorrow
   Send in your articles.   Same address as subscription.
              21329ks@ibm.cl.msu.edu        Later. Karl
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: 000998s@ace.acadiau.ca (KARL OVE SONNICHSEN)
Subject: Re: FUNKY CURIOUSITY
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:34:30 GMT

In article <168A18561.S954818@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU> S954818@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU (Mark Pedigo) writes:
>From: S954818@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU (Mark Pedigo)
>Subject: FUNKY CURIOUSITY
>Date: 16 Nov 92 15:29:00 GMT

>Just for kicks:
>A couple of questions:
>1.  What is the best funk tune ever?
>2.  What is the best funk band?
> 
>Use any definition of "funk" that you wish -- This question is intentionally
>open-ended.
> 
>For that matter, answers don't have to be limited to only one tune/band.
> 
>-mp

1. don't know
2. Red Hot Chilipeppers
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: uk09395@nx22.mik.uky.edu (gordon l teachey)
Subject: Re: alternative music is crap and bad for kids
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Path: nx22.mik.uky.edu!uk09395
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 04:53:42 GMT

i would have included the original post and tried to have used some
actual quotes, but i'm no masochist.....

 point number 1:  music is, by definition, the arrangement of notes and
      tones to provide something that is entertaining or pleasing to the
      ear.... lyrics are not necessary, and for many avid musics fans,
      peripheral by comparison to the texture and complexity of the music....
      so, on this understanding, i don't see why it is such a problem for
      some folks to not get any messages from the lyrics, that's not the
      reason some of us are listening to music.....

point number 2:  these "kids" listening to "alternative" music (whatever
	that is) are, by and large, over the age of eighteen.... and i would
	venture to suggest that somewhere upwards of ninety percent are over
	the age of 16.....  without getting into arguements over biological
	age versus maturation, yer point overall is moot.... since this music
	is "alternative" (speaking in it's purest since) most 14 year olds
	are not going to hear it, cos, they simply aren't going to, the music
	isn't getting airplay for the most part, and they don't have the money
	to spend on albums and are too young to get into most of the places
	these bands play

please, don't flame me about all these soundgardens and nirvanas and pearl jams
that ARE on the radio, i mean ALTERNATIVE music.... true and pure, and yes
there's still plenty of it out there, despite corporate america's
coup of the independent music industry.....

  lin
From: dholdswo@adelphi.ua.oz.au (Dave Holdsworth)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Morrissey on SNL
Date: 20 Nov 1992 01:32:31 GMT
Organization: Department of Physics, University of Adelaide, South Australia
Reply-To: dholdswo@adelphi.ua.oz.au (Dave Holdsworth)
NNTP-Posting-Host: adelphi.itd.adelaide.edu.au


>Hey, did anyone out there catch last nights Saterday Night Live?  I was upset
>to see how not into the songs Morrissey was.  I have seen him in concert in
>LA and he has always been so into the music.  I was wondering if it was just
>the crowd he was playing to or what.  I don't know...I was kind of dissapointed
>in his performance.

When Moz came to Australia he appeared on a late-night national show "Tonight
Live" where he performed "King Lear". And like you mentioned about him on SNL,
he looked totally disinterested, like he was being made to do it. And about
three days later, he cancelled the tour, after having only played one show,
supposedly with a virus!

It's only lately, with news of his cancellation of half a recent US tour and
his Glastonbury and Sunday Madstock festival non appearances that I've had
any reason to suspect anything other than the "virus" claim. But pulling out
of gigs at short notice is becoming oh so common now...........



--
*************************************************************************

     Dave Holdsworth. email: dholdswo@physics.adelaide.edu.au
       Dept. Physics & Math Physics, University of Adelaide
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: olivier@everest.ee.umn.edu (Olivier Meirhaeghe)
Subject: Re: Fatima Mansions
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, EE dept.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:07:02 GMT

	Yeah..Valhalla Avenue was released while Fatima Mansions where
	opening for U2 this spring. (?!?) .

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: Jens Alfke <jens_alfke@gateway.qm.apple.com>
Subject: Re: Pixies -- what's up?
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:33:01 GMT
X-Xxdate: Thu, 19 Nov 92 21:33:55 GMT
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Organization: Apple Computer

Olivier Meirhaeghe, olivier@everest.ee.umn.edu writes:
>	...also i had this weird
>	feeling ( did anyone had it too ? ) that she had a HARD hard time
>	following the RYTHM on most of the new songs ( technically speaking
>	...) particularly on "Planet of song" .

Well, there was the NME article where the author was astounded at how Kim
even managed to stand upright on stage after the amount of liquor she'd
consumed that day. (I think there was a quote like "...by the time of the
soundcheck, Kim has consumed enough alcohol to poison most forms of
animal or plant life".)

I personally think "Pod" is an extremely cool album; "wannabe"? I can't
think of any other band that even particularly sounds like them. The
first time I listened to "Pod", it sounded like amateurish songs with
awful production, but it really grew on me. (I guess some will maintain
that I was right the first time...)

--Jens Alfke
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: maj3852@zeus.tamu.edu (JEW, MARK ANDREW)
Subject: Re: who sings _Tommorow Wendy_ ???
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 07:25:00 GMT

In article <BxvCFr.GrD@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v065q4dn@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (MY HEART COULD USE SOME GLASSES) writes...
>In article <swindley.721963766@s1.elec.uq.oz.au>, swindley@elec.uq.oz.au (Bob Swindley) writes...
>>Just what the question asks ...
>> 
>>The song goes:
>> 
>>Hey, hey, good - bye
>>Tommorrow Wendy's
>>Going to die..
>> 
>> 
>>Sounds a bit Iggy-Poppish or Nick-Cavish
>> 
>>Anyone knows ????
>> 
>>Please E-mail
>> 
>>Ta Much  
>> 
>>   chengster
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>"Tommorrow Wendy" is sung by Concrete Blonde and can be found on
>"Bloodletting".....
>                                    Lori
>you may also be able to find it on the NEW ROUTE SAMPLER (CASS)
>or on the RUBIYAT comp (CD OR cass) by the writer ANDY PRIEBOY.
>
>ANDY shows up on a video though by concrete blonde, GHOST OF A TEXAS
>LADIES MAN... he plays the part of the ghost...
>the song is supposed to be about a haunted hotel in AUSTIN Texas.
>
>
>			MARKO
From: lafferty@redskins.ent.ohiou.edu (Aaron Lafferty ECE UnderGrad )
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Van Morrison
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:32:52 GMT
Organization: College Of Engg. & Tech., Ohio University. Athens

a few.
lafferty.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: Mark.Cornick@launchpad.unc.edu (Mark Cornick)
Subject: Re: FLAMES [Was Re: It's time for alt.michael-bolton.die.die.die]
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:50:01 GMT

In article <5819@sumax.seattleu.edu> kbennett@sumax.seattleu.edu ( Slacker Goddess) writes:
>>Awaiting the numerous flames.....
>
>Why don't you people just start alt.music.flame and leave the rest of us
>in peace.

or subscribe to PUNK-L...

--
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Who are your heroes, how far are you willing to go? -- Burma Jam
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: RE: SONIC YOUTH
From: scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Sean C. Duncan, Idiot)
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:19:20 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <2291.66.uupcb@uttsbbs.uucp>, neil.black@uttsbbs.uucp (Neil Black)  writes:
> I made an error.  Daydream Nation was manufactured by Enigma, which is
> not defunct.  While I was at Tower today, there was no D.N. to be found
> on cd.  Keep your eyes peeles (ouch!), you'll find it someplace
> (probably used, though I don't know why anyone would want to get rid of
> it unless they need the $ for food).

Just in case no one knew, apparently DGC is re-releasing the entire SY back
catalog of full-length albums in a few months (including Ciccone Youth, I
think).  Not sure if Sonic Death is going to be re-released tho.

Gotta go scarf up the last SST editions before they go outta print (yes, I am
kollektor skum occasionally... so shoot me).
                                                                     
-- 
Sean C. Duncan, scd@einstein.bgsu.edu :: scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
"The best thing to come out of Ohio is I-75." - Anonymous
_______________________________________________________________________
From: feit@acsu.buffalo.edu (Elissa Feit)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Baby Judy (was: Re: songs with the name "judy" in them)
Date: 16 Nov 92 03:05:26 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

In article <92320.160636U46837@uicvm.uic.edu> U46837@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
>In article <H57SB1T7@cc.swarthmore.edu>, sepstei1@cc.swarthmore.edu (stephen
>epstein) says:
>>
>>I'm making a birthday tape for a friend of mine and am looking for songs
>>which have the name Judy or Judith in the title or the lyrics.  So far I've
>>come up with:...
>
>Otherwise try the used bins for the Hawaiian Pups LP with the track called
>"Baby Judy" on it.  This is an early 80's new wave band kinda in the same
>vein as the Vapors, Devo, M, etc.  "Baby Judy " is a pretty fun and upbeat
>song.

I'd call it early industrial dance actually. I've been looking for this
for months and months, in fact.  Does anyone have a copy they want to sell?
(or tape?)

>Good Luck...

Thanks!  Hahahaha!! (no, I haven't lost my mind - I just manipulated
time so that an earlier post became a response to my current post. It's
not often that I get to work in more than 3 1/2 dimensions!  8-)

Elissa "easily-amused-after-being-on-the-computer-for-about-100-hours-this-
weekend" Feit (feit@cs.buffalo.edu// {rutgers,uunet}!cs.buffalo.edu!feit)
  Animals are your friends -- but they won't pick you up at the airport.
From: mlc9g@Virginia.EDU ("Matt Condon")
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: bands with self title
Date: 23 Nov 92 03:04:42 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk writes:
> "We Are The Frank & Walters"-The Frank & Walters
> "Hey Hey We're The Monkees"-The Monkees
> "This is Radio Clash"-The Clash

"Clash City Rockers"-The Clash
"Public Image"-Public Image Ltd.

I've heard there's a song on the new Julian Cope album tiltled
"Julian H. Cope", but I haven't actually seen it yet, so I'm
not sure...