From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Aimless thoughts on Satanism
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:07:52 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <BvEIvz.Hu3@acsu.buffalo.edu>, dewind@acsu.buffalo.edu (Idbil Fubar) writes:

[oh, no, not again]

> rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
> 
>>I am confused.
> 
> We'll try to fix that.

Really? You could have fooled me.
 
>>Following the appearance of a certain Xian Satanist who will remain unnamed,
>>discussions occurred involving the exchanges of belief systems of
>>self-described "Satanists." During this discussion, I was described as "grim"
>>and others expressed views full of optimism about the universe in general.
> 
> Lucifer (one of Satan's names) means Bearer of the light...he was at one time
> the most powerful of the Arcangels.  Just because he has fallen (he will
> rise again!) doesn't mean that he is no longer what he was.

I understand the theory of worshipping a "Satan" who has fallen yet will rise
again, a Satan who is of the Light rather than of the Dark; and I am well aware
of the meaning of "Lucifer." You are hardly the first to present such a view to
me.

I don't understand why anyone would bother calling it Satanism with all the
other associations that go with the name, rather than "Luciferianism" which
seems to me much more accurate. I also don't understand why you give the
impression of worshipping this angel "Lucifer" (I'm not sure if that's what you
do or not, but it's the image you create) when he was cast down because he
refused to bow to anyone but Yahweh. Why not follow his example, and worship
Yahweh instead (or Allah, or whatever name you choose. You know who I'm talking
about)?
 
>>I am at a loss to explain how one could hold such views and call oneself
>>"Satanic." Isn't Satan about darkness, death, endings? Isn't it unsatanic to
>>maintain anything but the supremacy of Destruction?
> 
> Satan isn't dark.  Satanism is mostly a humanitarian (?) relegion.  That means
> that what is most inportant to a Satanist (or so I have experienced) Is
> his/her self.  Not a god or anything...but enjoying their life.

And you think human nature is "humanitarian" (meaning "having concern for or
helping to improve the welfare and happiness of mankind"). Get a clue. Enjoy
your life. Celebrate human nature! Just remember what it is you're
celebrating...and remember how much destruction has been caused by humanity.
  
>>We are going to die. How can anyone get around that?
> 
> Enjoy yerself before-hand...otherwise start believing in reincarnation...

Reincarnation is a sop for cowards. I intend to enjoy myself quite thoroughly;
that doesn't mean I have to go around pretending that I'm not going to die. The
knowledge actually makes my life and my enjoyment much more consequential.
 
>>How can anyone who feels otherwise than negative defend themselves as being
>>Satanic?
> 
> Because...You look down on death. Look forward to it...When we get to hell
> beat the shit out of the people who treated you like that...until then
> PARTYPARTYPARTY!!!

Where do you get the idea that I look down on death? I look forward to it a
great deal. Party? Seems a little immature. So does revenge. No great offense,
but what you just expressed seems to me to be pretty shallow.
 
>>Sigh. I seem to be short on time at the moment, but hopefully I *will* get to
>>work on the FAQ, and to come up with a more coherent explanation of my
>>worldview for Thyagi to tear apart.
> 
> Now then...will you be a good faq writer and basicaly put the questions
> asked HERE and a short version of the answers given HERE or are you going to
> give all the newbies your views on life?

Nuts to you...I will not put these questions and your inadequate responses in
the FAQ because they are not of the appropriate nature. We are talking on an
emotional level here--what we feel--the FAQ deals (ideally, at least) with the
factual. Do you see the difference?
 
>>--Semhaza (The Antichrist)
> 
> Hey!  Waiting for the rapture on oct 28 at 6:00pm?  then you get to take 
> over after all the good chrisians are gone...(hahahahahahaha) I think I'll
> get my shotgun out and start shooting as people are lifted in to heaven!
> 
> Id

Lucifer was originally a Babylonian king. Do you truly want to present yourself
as a follower of Nebuk--ah, Nebuch--er, (fuck, how do you spell his
name)--Hammurabi?

--Semhaza
A crazy disciple of the House of Blood!
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