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From: scott@shuksan.boeing.com (Scott Moody)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: getting FRAME's RPC number?
Keywords: RPC
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:18:14 GMT
Organization: The Boeing Co., MMST, Seattle, Wa.

Does anyone know how to query a Running Framemaker to
get the RPC number it is using? I know there is a way
to specify the RPC number using .Xdefaults and
	Maker*prognum:	300009   (to use the old number).


But what program do you query to get this number? The portmapper
obviously knows the number but how do you know which Frame 
corresponds to what number?

We had this problem in our prototyping environment and solved
it by having a name server that knew 'current'. The user would have
to select a tool (when there were lots with the same name) and that
would inform the server that it was current. So operational code
would say something like:

	display( text , @current(tool_name), proc_num)


------------
This problem has arose because of a subtle bug/feature:

   Displaying frame from a sun onto numerous other machines
	reads the .Xdefaults correctly and registers (on the sun)
	the 300009 number.

   BUT displaying from the same environment onto a Silicon Graphics
	for some strange reason doesn't read the .Xdefaults
	and dynamically creates a new number such as 1080231175

 I haven't figures it out. 

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     scott@shuksan.boeing.com  
     uunet!bcstec!shuksan!scott
From: tla@bartok.att.com (Terry L Anderson 908-580-4428)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: inset editor problem
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:11:21 GMT
Distribution: comp.text.frame
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Liberty Corners, NJ

In article <SWK.92Sep4134009@seymour.mlb.semi.harris.com> swk@seymour.mlb.semi.harris.com (Song W. Koh) writes:

   From: swk@seymour.mlb.semi.harris.com (Song W. Koh)
   Date: 4 Sep 92 13:40:09

   I am trying to use the inset editors as documented in 
	   _Integrating_Applications_with_FrameMaker_ 
	   Part Number 41-00541-00, September, 1990

   I am using the X version 3.1.

   My questions are these:

   1.  I can't import the file on page 3-5 of the above document.  Has
	   anyone out there tried this?

   2.  Is there a newer document?

It sounds like you are looking at the version of the document that
came with FM 2.1 and things have indeed changed.  You would be best to
get the newer version.  I don't have a copy in front of me so do not
know what is on page 3-5 but I have used the technique to create
several inset editors with no problem.  The primary difference in
latest versions is on the rcp number of the framemaker server (maker).
It used to be a fixed number but they have changed this to a number
that is generated randomly so that more than one instance can be
running on a machine.  The number is currently stored in the
properties of the X root window.  

   3.  Has anyone tried importing EPSI files and have succeeded? 

I have not had any problem with this either as long as the file is
Encapsulated PostScript not simply PostScript.  Encapsulated PS has a
header line giveing an ESPF verison number, a BoundingBox statement
and optionally a Preview (low-resolution bitmap) part.  Without the
Preview the EPSI file can still be imported and printed but will
appear on the screen as a grey box (except in versions of FM running
on machines that support Display PostScript - such as NeXT and Sun
3.1A OPENLOOK).


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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: steved@essex.com
Subject: Re: master page problem
Reply-To: steved@essex.com
Organization: Essex Information Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:30:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.203007.22108@sfu.ca> Mike Dustan <Mike_Dustan@sfu.ca>  
writes:
> In article <1992Sep9.125735.13339@sei.cmu.edu> Alan Koch, ask@sei.cmu.edu
> writes:
> >Yes.  The text columns must be transparent.  You see, the "Draft" is a
> >background graphic, and as such, is behind the text columns on the page.
> >
> >If you are planning to use the draft banner, you should make all text
> columns
> >(on all pages and all master pages) Fill Pattern: None.
> >
> >Unfortunately, for an already existing document, I know of no way to do
> a mass
> >change of this type.  You must go to EVERY page, select the text
> column(s) and
> >click Fill:None.  Not fun in a 100 page document.
> >
> 
> Surely you could make the change on each master page you use and then use
> Use Formats From, applying Page Layout? Haven't tested it, but I think it
> should work. Of course, if you have 100 different page layouts, this
> won't help much.
> 

I tried this lately and it didn't work - on a NeXT version, at least.  I had to  
go to each page and apply the fill.  I spent a loooong time trying to do it by  
applying master pages and only suceeded in getting very frustrated....

Steve
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   or, if that doesn't work:
      steved%bullwinkle.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu
From: steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Frame on Windows
Keywords: Saving Files
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 07:59:03 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The GRAFex Company

engp1261@nuscc.nus.sg (Teng-Kiat Lee) writes:

> In article <1992Sep4.180504.8362@mks.com>, fred@mks.com (Fred Kratky) writes:
> |> I have recently started using Frame on Windows.  With each save it
> |> appears that Frame is creating a new file by adding % to the beginning
> |> of the file. eg: if I save "file" 4 times there are four files, the last
> |> one having the name %%%file.

I do not experience this behaviour.  I get one %filename.  I have no idea
what would cause this.  Have you contacted comments@frame.com?
]...[
 
> In fact, the save command in the File Menu is slightly different from
> that in Sun (Frame2.0) in that it no longer tells you whether you need
> to save or not. In Frame2.0 you have something like Save (needed) or
> Save (no needed). Am I missing something here?

I get the same thing.  I never noticed until you mentioned it.  Looks like
an oops from Frame.  Worthy of bringing to their attention.

stever

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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: ask@sei.cmu.edu (Alan Koch)
Subject: Re: Command Line Use Of Frame's Speller
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 12:52:13 GMT


In article <23295@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM>, kemsley@ipld04.hac.com (Dave H. Kemsley) writes:
|> Does anyone know if Framemaker's (Sun) spell checker can be used outside
|> of Frame (e.g., from the command line). I doubt if it can be, but it sure
|> would be nice considering the spelling checkers available in this command
|> line world! Or does anyone have any suggestions of a spell checker that
|> is MUCH better than spell or philspell that can be hooked into existing
|> programs (e.g., textedit, emacs, vi,....)

You're right--no such animal.

But you can always open any clear text file in FrameMaker, spell check it,
then save it as TextOnly.

ask@sei.cmu.edu

Alan S. Koch
Software Engineering Institute
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA  15213
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: waldnerm@rtsg.mot.com (Matthew R. Waldner)
Subject: book format problem
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:45:44 GMT

I am hopeful someone on the net can answer this problem.

I have a book file.  Some of my chapter documents are saved
in Editable Maker Format and some are saved in Maker Inter-
change Format.  When I attempt to generate the TOC.doc 
file or just to update the date variables 
generate/update stops when a document, saved in Maker Inter-
change Format, is scanned.  The error message is:
"Not a Document: <name_of_document>.

Is it possible to mix the formats of the documents inside
a book file and still be able to do a generate/update?  I
need to be able to save these particular chapter documents
in this format for a tool I use to create test scripts.

I have tried saving the entire book in Maker Interchange 
Format and get the same error message.

Please email me a solution or post to the net.

Matt 
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: kcr@deneb.mlb.semi.harris.com (Keighley Ross)
Subject: Re: labeling blank pages
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:03:52 GMT
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne FL

In article <1992Sep04.202306.3639@evolving.com> judy@evolving.com (Judy Bettinger) writes:
>Is there an easy way to automatically show "this page intentionally
>left blank" on blank pages which are embedded in a document?
>
>We've got a document with certain sections which must land on
>a right-hand page, so we end up with blank pages in the middle

Well, you could put that message on a master page and use Add Page,
but that creates some other complications.

How about creating a paragraph tag "blankpage" that has:
   Basic:Start At:Top of Page
   Advanced:Frame Below  pointing to a frame with the message
   Basic:Space Below  large enough force the next paragraph to a new page


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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: idf@cs.bham.ac.uk (Ian Fitchet)
Subject: Re: frame Xresources
Organization: School of Computer Science, University of Birmingham
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 22:34:38 GMT

Further to these questions:

	In Maker* it says:

! WINDOW POSITIONS AND DIMENSIONS

!	Coordinates are in pixels, offset from the top left corner of the
!	screen. Dimensions are in pixels.

!	Main FrameMaker window size and coordinates. You can specify just
!	the size (322x66), just the coordinates (+780+0), or both.
!	Also included in Maker.<language> file.

!Maker.makerkit.geometry:	322x66+780+0

	Alas, I cannot make FrameMaker take any notice of the +X+Y
part.  I can change the size of the window, but NOT its position.

	Has anyone had similar problems?

--
Cheers,

	Ian

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Ian Fitchet     				      I.D.Fitchet@cs.bham.ac.uk
School of Computer Science
Univ. of Birmingham, UK, B15 2TT
From: graaff@dutiws.tudelft.nl (Hans de Graaff)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: OpenWindows-Version
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:32:21 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology

In article <1992Sep14.212848.7680@uni-paderborn.de> marc@uni-paderborn.de (Marc Gumbold) writes:
>Is anyone out there using both the Open Windows version _and_ the 
>X-Window/Motif version on his/her Sun?
>
>I wonder in what points exactly the Open Windows version differs from
>the Motif version. Is it just the UI (Xview vs. Motif) or are there
>inherent differences? Does the OW version make use of any OW features?

I have been using the X version until recently, and have just begun
using the OL version. I haven't noticed any big differences, apart
from the interface, but I haven't been using the OL version a lot.

>Does anyone know of international versions of the OW version? My sales
>rep :( told me the OW version would only be avaiblable as an English
>version. Is that true?

It can't be true, because we use International Framemaker (being
Dutch and all). I think out version of imaker is 3.1A right now.

Hans
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From: hkarhune@hydra.Helsinki.FI (Heikki Karhunen)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame,cs.misc
Subject: Re: frame Xresources
Date: 7 Sep 92 11:38:45 GMT
	<IDF.92Sep5223438@fat-controller.cs.bham.ac.uk>
Organization: Department of Theoretical Physics, University of Helsinki,
	Finland

In article <IDF.92Sep5223438@fat-controller.cs.bham.ac.uk> idf@cs.bham.ac.uk (Ian Fitchet) wrote:
> Further to these questions:
> 
> 	In Maker* it says:
> 
> ! WINDOW POSITIONS AND DIMENSIONS
> 
> !	Coordinates are in pixels, offset from the top left corner of the
> !	screen. Dimensions are in pixels.
> 
> !	Main FrameMaker window size and coordinates. You can specify just
> !	the size (322x66), just the coordinates (+780+0), or both.
> !	Also included in Maker.<language> file.
> 
> !Maker.makerkit.geometry:	322x66+780+0
> 
> 	Alas, I cannot make FrameMaker take any notice of the +X+Y
> part.  I can change the size of the window, but NOT its position.
> 
> 	Has anyone had similar problems?

You are using OSF/Motif as your window manager, aren't you? Just
asking because Motif has this annoying default of disregarding the
resource's idea of position. You can get it to work by adding this
line to your .Xdefaults:

	Mwm*clientAutoPlace:	false

(and the do:

	xrdb -merge .Xdefaults

to incorporate the resource to the resource database)

The only drawback from this resource is that after setting it to
false, mwm no longer cascades new windows on top of each other. New
windows that aren't explicitely given the location they are to appear
will by default appear at the upper left corner (+0+0).

> 
> --
> Cheers,
> 
> 	Ian
> 

Hope this helps,

	Heikki

> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Ian Fitchet     				      I.D.Fitchet@cs.bham.ac.uk
> School of Computer Science
> Univ. of Birmingham, UK, B15 2TT

/-----------------------------+-----------------------------------------\
| hkarhune@hydra.helsinki.fi  | There is always a job for a theoretical |
| Heikki.Karhunen@helsinki.fi | physicist -- at least in theory.        |
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From: isaac@goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Isaac Balbin)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Using Frame with Fax modem software
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:16:41 GMT
Organization: RMIT Department of Computer Science

We have purchased the TruFax system for facsimile software
and I am looking for pointers from people who have implemented
auto sending from frame via say print.

We are running Frame 3.1X on a Sun 670,  4.1.3

also on a Mac---> the macs are connected to a Muktigate and can print to 
a device on the Sun.
From: tripstr@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Christopher Todd Courtois)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Converting Mac --> MS-Windows
Summary: Need suggestions on converting Frame files Mac --> Windows
Date: 12 Sep 92 00:53:52 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


I need to move some Frame files from my Mac workstation to a
MS-Windows based system.  What kind of file conversion is involved here?  Can I
use something like "PC Exchange" to simply convert the standard FrameMaker files
into DOS format, or do I need to first save the Frame files in some
nonstandard format like MIF?

Please email me if possible.

Thanks!

Todd Courtois

tripstr@cats.ucsc.edu
tripstr@ucscb.ucsc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: bw@hpcvxgmr.cv.hp.com (Bill Wilhelmi)
Subject: Spell Checking Anomaly!
Reply-To: bw@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com
Organization: Interstate 5
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:49:28 GMT

Try this:  Put the word "Interleaf" in a Frame document and 
spell check it.  An interesting correction is offered by
Frame.

-- 
 Bill Wilhelmi    
 Hewlett-Packard - User-interface Technology Division CV
 1000 NE Circle Blvd.  Corvallis, OR 97330
 bw@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: steved@essex.com
Subject: Re: master page problem
Reply-To: steved@essex.com
Organization: Essex Information Systems, Inc.
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 14:37:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.135750.17763@sei.cmu.edu> ask@sei.cmu.edu (Alan Koch)  
writes:
> 
> OK, I finally figured it out!  I didn't lie after all.
> 
> In FrameMaker version 2, applying Master Pages did NOT affect the fill
> patterns of text columns on the Body Pages.  In FrameMaker 3 it does.
> (Whether this was a bug fix or an enhancement -- well, who knows?)
> 
> Since it still doesn't work on the NeXT, we can conclude that the NeXT  
version
> is derived from FrameMaker 2, and it probably WILL work in the next NeXT
> release.  
> 

My conclusion is that the NeXT version is buggier than the other versions! ;>

Steve

P.S. I had a Mac and ran Frame on it without major problems (except for  
memory), then bought a NeXT and the real fun began....document conversion, font  
conversion, bugs, etc.  The NeXT version handles large docs better, but isn't  
really ready for prime time.

I love my NeXT, but I think Frame treats the NeXT market very shoddily...
-- 
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   or, if that doesn't work:
      steved%bullwinkle.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: Phil Buxton <philb@bnr.ca>
Subject: Re: c code from vi
Organization: Bell Northern Research
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:25:11 GMT


In article  Pete Staples, pete@marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au writes:

>
>How do I emulate vi type tabs in framemaker?
>
>I have C code i want to put into an appendix and the tabs 
>don't line up. Frame seems to position the first tab 
>at tabstop 1 and if you are past it, tough. Whereas vi 
>keeps "tabs" (perhaps a better word required here) of the
>position on the line.
>
Frame uses absolute tabs, most other apps use relative tabs
If you want to tab to the tab position at 3.5 inches,
and there tabs set at every half inch, 
then you will have to press the tab 7 times irrespective of the text that
you have typed at the beginning of the line. 
Takes some getting used to but it is rather handy at times if you are
doing structural changes to a document.  Dont forget that Frame started
out as a page layout program, not a word processor.  
You have found the most annoying aspect of the tab problem.  Filtering
into or out of Frame to any other application usually blows up on tabs,
because "they" all use relative tabs, whereas Frame uses absolute.

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From: kumashi@bend.ucsd.edu (Toshiyuki Kumashiro)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Word count
Date: 9 Sep 1992 04:43:16 GMT
Organization: Linguistics Department, UCSD
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: bend.ucsd.edu

Is there a way to count the number of words in a document other than saving it
in text and using some other utility? I looked at features like "Generate",
"Find/Change", "Spelling Checker", etc., but none of them didn't appear to let
me do this. Any help will be appreciated.

Toshiyuki Kumashiro
kumashi@bend.ucsd.edu

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: engp1261@nuscc.nus.sg (Teng-Kiat Lee)
Subject: DeskJet500 and Frame
Reply-To: engp1261@nuscc.nus.sg
Organization: Dept. of EE, National Univ. of Singapore
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 03:32:47 GMT

I am now looking for a printer for home use (hate having to travel to
my office to print a personal letter on a Sunday) and has more or less
decided on DeskJet 500. I will be using FrameMaker for windows for most
of the documents (I figured with all the filters around, I can always
get any other formats into Frame). My concern now is the quality of
the print (equations, graphics etc.) and how fast the printer can do
a page (could it be less than 1 page per min when printing graphics?).
I remembered when I used Harvard Graphics to print in some high quality
mode, the speed was more like one page per 10 mins. Will I expect the
same for Framemaker?

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Regards,
Kiat

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Bitnet:   eleleetk@nusvm.bitnet or   Dept. of Electrical Engineering
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From: ask@sei.cmu.edu (Alan Koch)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: master page problem
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:57:50 GMT
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute


OK, I finally figured it out!  I didn't lie after all.

In FrameMaker version 2, applying Master Pages did NOT affect the fill
patterns of text columns on the Body Pages.  In FrameMaker 3 it does.
(Whether this was a bug fix or an enhancement -- well, who knows?)

Since it still doesn't work on the NeXT, we can conclude that the NeXT version
is derived from FrameMaker 2, and it probably WILL work in the next NeXT
release.  

But the most impotant point for all of you to understand is that I did NOT
lie!  I was right!  I was RIGHT!!!  I WAS RIGHT!!!!!!!!!

ask@sei.cmu.edu

Alan S. Koch
Software Engineering Institute
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA  15213
From: wa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.f.casey)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Feature/bug: "Number Lock" key lit messes up Framemaker on Suns
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:57:36 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs

For several months, I've been having intermittant trouble with Framemaker.
(Please note: I'm a novice user).  Trouble:  I could only look at the first
page, and only the last page of an existing document.  Also, I could not
type anything with the main section of the keyboard.  We have Sun SPARC
station2's here.  
Cause: I had left the "Num Lock" function key lit on the keyboard.  I use
Num Lock when reading netnews, to select articles.  I would randomly leave
it on when I try to run Framemaker.  Never made the connection until 
yesterday.  Few people here knew about this "FEATURE"..  
Can't find anything in the manual about this.
Anyone know why Num Lock does this?
From: jean@hoggar.imag.fr (Jean Chouanard)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Updating Frame Variable
Date: 8 Sep 92 08:10:34 GMT
Reply-To: jean@hoggar.imag.fr (Jean Chouanard)
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France

I want to change, in a 'batch mode', some user-define variable of a 
Framemaker document stored in Framemaker default format (Not MIF).

Do any one know how I can do this? 
There is nothing about this in the fmbatch documentation, but I think it can
be possible!

Thank's 

-- 
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