HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jblixt@neon.cdc.com (Jon Blixt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Stuff
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:44:07 GMT
Reply-To: jblixt@mips.COM (Jon Blixt)
Distribution: na
Organization: MINE Mindless Idiot Nonothings Everywhere

In article <56462@olivea.atc.olivetti.com} rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith) writes:
}In article <BvvErA.CpM@news.cso.uiuc.edu} jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
}}	this world is coming to.  As if Magic had enough problems (going
}}	to die a slow death), people call him selfish, egotistic, a money
}}	grubber, and stupid.  I'd like to see some of U guys in his shoes.
}
}Selfish = concerned excessively or exclusively with oneself.
}
}Now what about this are you denying? Magic is taking no risk according
}to experts, the only people taking any risk no matter how slight it
}might be are the other NBA players. By definition that is selfish.
}
By that definition, isn't it hard to find unselfish people?  Choose the
thing you like to do the most, and are extremely good at and then also
choose to give it up.  The reason you give it up being that you will put
people at a very small risk.  All those people that can be that can be
that unselfish raise you hand.  For the rest of us, let's let Magic play
in peace.

-Jon 
}
}Russ Smith
}*******************************************************************************
}"Some people got a chip on their shoulder,
}and some would claim it was me."
}                                Outta Get Me-- Guns N Roses
}********************************************************************************


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From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: And again (was Re: Rodman Trade Rumor (Here we go again!))
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:58:56 GMT

In article <M1WCC00.92Oct7125840@mcfss2.fed.frb.gov>
m1wcc00@fed.frb.gov (Wayne C. Cook) writes:
 
>Well now, with Fat Terry Mills, Orlando Woolridge, and Tisdale, who's
>gonna D up and who's gonna board?  I think Pistons are in beeeeg trouble.
>Wayne.
 
Ho, ho, ho!
 
Yep, after 9 consecutive playoff trips, any move they make will still
cause them to crumble! They are only best defensive team in the league,
fer chrissakes.
 
Let's see, they can't possibly be serious about getting younger players
becuz they have been an older team for the past 4 years...
 
They can't possibly try to become more offense oriented, because they
are traditionally known for defense...
 
If the Rodman/Tisdale deal doesn't go through, the net will boast that they
missed their chance to get a good offensive player, and will be doomed as
a result.
 
All this stuff about how they are done for, and will end up in last
place, and forget about the playoffs, well this is the same stuff
I heard last season, and only 8 teams finished with better records.
 
Mills is 6'10 and weighs under 260. That's taller and lighter than either
Karl Malone or Charles Barkley. Plus Mills and his agent requested a weight
clause to keep him under 250 (he finished last season at 248).
 
Polynice, Laimbeer, Woolridge and others will just have to start thinking
about grabbing a few rebounds if Dennis leaves.
 
I wonder what the net thinks about Olden Polynice and Isaiah Morris, cuz
I didn't see much posted about them when they joined up.
 
--Eric
 
PS: And since you are all gonna claim I did it anyway...WOOF!  :)
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From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: GO [RRRRRRIIIIIPPPPP!] BULLS!
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 03:51:29 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.163858.5675@gw.wmich.edu>
988fernandez@gw.wmich.edu writes:
 
>        BBBBBBB    BB     BB     BB         BB          BBBBBB
>        BB   BB    BB     BB     BB         BB          BB
 
                 RRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!
 
>        BBBBBBB    BB     BB     BB         BB          BBBBBB
 
                     RRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIPPPPPPPPPP!
 
>        BB   BB    BB     BB     BB         BB              BB
>        BBBBBBB    BBBBBBBBB     BBBBBB     BBBBBB      BBBBBB
 
           RRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!
 
>        GOOOOOOOO       [RRRRRIIIIIIIIPPPPPPP!]      OOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
>
 
 
 
 
Fight the *real* enemy!
 
 
 
--Eric
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From: mcmullen@mindvox.phantom.com (John F. McMullen)
Subject: Re: Shaquille/Sampson
Organization: [Phantom Access] / the MindVox system
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:59:47 GMT

Both Marvin Barnes and Maurice Lucas were on St. Louis when Malone was
there. When Malone was with Buffalo, Barnes was there (as probably was
Elmore Smith, Bob Kaufman and Bob MacAdoo). When Malone had his cup of
coffee with Portland, Bill Walton was the center and Lucas was the power
forward. 

If these thems had only realized what they kept sending off some
place else! Portland's been trying to replace Walton for over 15 years.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: paul@gwoptics.Colorado.EDU (Paul Mathews)
Subject: nba.c
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:04:06 GMT




    I just started reading this newsgroup again after 1 year.  Is the
new 1992-93 version of nba.c out yet?? If it is can someone email it
to me or let me know where to get it??  Thanks a ton!!!  Please email
me as I still don't read this regularly.


	paul@gwoptics.colorado.edu
		or
	mathews@fred.colorado.edu


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|                                   |  Paul "Ground Bound" Matthews  |
|                                   |  paul@gwoptics.colorado.edu    |
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From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Bird ceremony
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:47:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvmark.1992Oct16.144748.18726
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <1992Oct15.201135.27376@ll.mit.edu> nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith) writes:
>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
>| Larry Bird: the ONLY player to finish >20 pts, >10rebs, >5asts per game |
>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Hey Nate.. Give him his due.. the ONLY player to finish >20pgs, >10rebs, and
> !!!6!!!asts per game (he was almost 6.4/game)

:-) :-)


-- 
David T. Meeks                    ||" We are jigsaw pieces, aligned on the 
VMark Software, Inc.              ||  perimeter edge, 
uvmark!davem@merk.com             ||  interlocked through a missing piece"
davem%uvmark@merk.com             ||" ...This world is totally Fugazi"
Xref: sparky rec.sport.basketball.pro:18005 alt.politics.elections:16064 soc.culture.african.american:9845
From: djohns@elm.circa.ufl.edu (David A. Johns)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro,alt.politics.elections,soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: Democrats,republicans;black athletes
Keywords: Barkley, Horton
Date: 10 Oct 92 10:28:46 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Organization: University of Florida, Gainesville

In article <BvoHw0.5tA@agora.rain.com> robart@agora.rain.com (Robert Barton) writes:

# In article <1992Oct05.025312.5081@microsoft.com>
# chriswa@microsoft.com (Chris Wa ldron) writes:
# [...]
# >
# > The actual intent of Willie Horton was in fact racist as admitted
# to by Atwate r.
#
#   Is that really why Horton attacked whites (racism), or was it
# simply a matter of opportunity?

I think he meant that the intent of the Willie Horton *ads* was
racist.  What else could Atwater admit to?

#   Does anyone know where Horton is now?  Was he ever properly
# executed for his crimes?

Writing a book?

David


Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: weaver@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Dave Weaver)
Subject: Re: Suns anti-woof
Organization: SPS
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:58:19 GMT


cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff) writes:

>Colangelo's vow not to eat any contracts is equivalent to stating,
>"Dumas, Miller, Davis, and Johnson might as well forget about camp
>and go home.  They have no future with us."
>
>Personally, I hope Colangelo reconsiders and eats at least one
>contract, or even two.  But I don't see him eating three.  At least
>one of Dumas, Miller, or Davis will not make the team.

What the Suns will probably do is the same thing they have done the 
last couple of years: "The old mystery ankle sprain trick."

I'll bet money just before the rosters are reduced, one or two guys
will be put on injured reserve with various bogus injuries so the front
office can release fewer players. They will probably rotate a few
guys onto IR until the league office tells them to cut it out. 
I can't see how Colangelo can hold onto both Rambis and Nealy, one
of them has to go. 

Dave Weaver
Motorola ASIC
Chandler, Arizona
From: cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Oliver Miller signs with Suns & Lottery Bullshit
Date: 10 Oct 92 00:47:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, San Diego

koehnema@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Harry Koehnemann) writes:
>You all can stop talking about Miller being dumped over Rambis/Nealy.
>The Suns signed Oliver Miller (6-8, 290!) to a 2 year contract - 500K,
>650K.

For the record, I'd like to state:  Yay!

That being said...

>The money came from KJ, who renegotiated his contract.

Wow.  Does this team have a bunch of great guys, or what?  First
Barkley and Chambers renegotiate to sign Ainge, and now this.  :-)

Now that we know where the money's coming, the big question is--
where's the roster spot coming from?

Also, what is to become of Richard Dumas and Brian Davis?

>On another note, this salary cap thing is bullshit.

Agreed.  Way too many loopholes and complications.  Let's make the
cap a *cap*, all right?  I can understand exceptions for injured
players, and maybe even retired players, but that's it.

The cap is so damn convoluted that a knowledge of creative financing
is more important to a GM than an understanding of basketball!

Tony
From: hira@cme.nist.gov (Ron Hira)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Selfish
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:34:04 GMT
Reply-To: hira@cme.nist.gov
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology

What I'm wondering about is not whether there are chances that
another player would catch AIDS from Magic, but how does the
person who's defending Magic react. I would think that he 
might feel a bit tentative playing D against someone who might
be ill. Of course once Magic schooled him a couple of times,
this tentativeness might disappear. 

Ron
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: rbrooks1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Rob Brooks)
Subject: Re: Alonzo Mourning, greedy SOB
Organization: Swarthmore College
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:55:57 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.131439.477@brtph560.bnr.ca>, markham@brtph600.bnr.ca
(Andrew Markham P205) writes:

> Now I am growing tired of Alonzo and his agent.  Alonzo won't take $2.1M
> and is looking for $2.5M.  Did he forget that just last year, the No. 1 
> pick Larry Johnson only got $1.9M (if I'm not mistaken).
                     ^^^^

That's quite a nice "only."  I wish I only got that kind of money for
tossing a ball in a hoop.  Ok, so he was rookie of the year but still...

Rob



Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: minor@rtsg.mot.com (Kevin Minor)
Subject: Re: Is Magic greedy/selfish?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:56:13 GMT

max@ocf.berkeley.edu (Fude Max Chuang) writes:

|>Just to clarify, blood transfer is one of the easiest means of catching
|>the virus.  Only 1-2 mL of blood is needed for risk to occur.

And really that isn't that easy to do if you give in a little thought.
Again, especially considering most organized sports' rules on addressing
open wounds immediately.
-- 
	/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\
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	|			Mail: minor@rtsg.mot.com		|
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From: cs300004@scs.carleton.ca (Jose de)
Subject: 92 Olympic Prep Team
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:43:37 GMT

Could anyone please tell me the players on this year's Olympic prep 
team (ie. the college players who toured with the pros while in
Barcelona this summer)? I recall Chris Webber (Michigan) and Bobby
Hurley (Duke) were on the squad, but who were the others? This was
the ONLY team that ever beat the Dreamers (OK, so it was only in
practice). It'd be interesting to see how many of those guys are back
in 1996 with the big team. Their schools would also come in handy.

-Thankx
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei)
Subject: Re:  Anthony Peeler
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:29:43 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.024558.7439@m.cs.uiuc.edu> huang@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Linus Huang) writes:
>
>I've heard a lot of different things about Peeler.  Some say he is a good
>defender and some say he needs work on D.  Some say he is a good outside
>shooter and some say his outside shooting is lousy.  His ball-handling is
>decent for a 2.  I think the concensus is that he is a good driver.  He is
>very athletic.  This is cliche, I know, but a lot sportswriters call him
>"Jordanesque".  Then, of course, there are his celebrated off-the-court
>problems.
>
>Anyone else know more about him?  I'm from Columbia, MO (home of the Tigers)
>but I was away for college and in any case always paid more attention to Doug
>Smith.

Peeler is supposed to have everything a good NBA player needs from the neck
down.  Lakers gamble like they always do that they can straighten out head
cases.  I think the dimensions Peeler offers already makes him better than
Byron Scott.  He goes strong to the hole, has a good outside shot and handed
out 5 apg in college.  Question mark about shot selection though.  Supposedly
very, very athletic...
From: kjordan@williams.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: First Round Picks?
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:51:17 GMT
Organization: Williams College Ctr for Computing

In article <1bfcutINN6ep@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
(Michael Lerner) writes:
>
>It seems that some significant talents have yet to sign contracts.  Many
>said Laettner was brains VS Shaquille's pure talent in College, but Shaq at
>least had the sense to get signed and get into camp on time.  What's going
>to happen with these guys?  Will Mourning and Laettner be traded?  Maybe the
>NBA should resort to third party salary arbitrators to settle these problems?
>It seems that every year it's taking longer to get these College superstars
>into camp.
>
>Mike

My local news reported Laettner is close to signing a 6 year, $20million deal.
Anyone have some more detailed info?

Kimberly Jordan		kimberly.jordan@williams.edu
Center for Computing
Williams College
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Trent Tucker signs w/ BULLS
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:56:09 GMT

campo@sunthpi3.difi.unipi.it (Massimo Campostrini) writes:

>Well, it looks like the Bulls can get quality minutes from all 12
>(except maybe C.Williams)...

	Hold on here.  If Corey Williams sticks, which I think he will, I
	think he will get some decent playing time w/ the Bulls.  Remember,
	this is a guy who was named the "fastest player" in the NCAAs last
	year.  This man can fly.  He's about 2 times faster than BJ, and
	5 times faster than Paxson.  He's a defensive specialist as well --
	and I could see the Bulls bring him for short spells of defense
	against the likes of KJ or Stockton, who always seem to give the
	Bulls fits.  Sidenote -- Williams' speed is so good that he was
	drafted by the NFL by the Kansas City Chiefs as a defensive back --
	and he had never even played a single game of college football.

	Jazzy J
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From: markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205)
Subject: Re: PACERS,PACERS,PACERS!!!!!
Organization: Bell Northern Research Inc.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:58:07 GMT

bramsey@npal.rn.com writes:
>markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205) writes:
>> bramsey@npal.rn.com writes:
>>>IF anyone thinks the bulls are going to win another one your in for a shock.
>>>the Indiana pacers are going to have  a 65 win season and kill the bulls in 
>>>the post season.
>> 
>> Yeah, right.
>
>well andrew let me tell ya somethin' we've got reggie mi who is BETTER than mic
>michael jordan when it comes down to it and if you think for an instant that
>jordan will win the scoring title tr your SADLY mistaken. juken. just like i
>predicted that the colts would do BETTER!

I don't remember a 'bramsey' so I keep asking myself, 'Is this a joke?'
There are no smiley faces, but the humor seems to be implicit.  Could someone
actually feel this way?  

Note:  Please use smiley faces!!!!

Just think, if he/she does believe it, I'll REALLY have someone to rag on.
Couldn't be THAT lucky, could I?

-- 
Andrew W. Markham (markham@bnr.ca)
Bell Northern Research, Inc.
From: moy@acf3.NYU.EDU (Gloria J. Moy,N.DORM C3,(212)9983456,)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Is Magic greedy/selfish?
Date: 10 Oct 92 19:53:00 GMT
Organization: New York University



In this post, it reads....
/* acf3:rec.sport.basketball.pro / lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James) /  1:10 pm  Oct  6, 1992 */
Y'all can flame me if you have a mind to, but if my son decides to play
a contact sport when he grows up (i.e.,  a sport where physical contact
can cause cuts and abrasions such that blood,  not to mention perspira-
tion and saliva, can be exchanged), I want the players in his league to
be tested for AIDS and I *WON'T* want HIV positive kids playing with my
son.  Hear me now, I am not calling for quarantine or for denial of em-
ployment in non-evasive capacities.  But, I *AM* calling for reasonable
protection for those who must come in contact with AIDS patients. If I,
God forbid, were to contract AIDS, I would take it as my responsibility
to take every possible precaution to  not put any other person at risk.

PS, Question, you are sitting in the front row of an NBA game involving
    the Lakers,  and Magic Johnson is heading for you,  chasing a loose
    ball.  What do you do?
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|lej@pdn.paradyne.com |  things to waste."    | Largo, FL 34649 (USA) |

This ignorant posting,is what brings about hate and discrimination and
gives places like the church a reason to fear those who have aids. I
wonder, if a kid your son played with had bone cancer, would your
reaction be the same. Get with the program, sure there are dangers
involved, but to not let your son play with someone who might be
HIV+ but not have AIDs is really sad. Do you also tell your son
that he can only play with certain children? What you are teaching you
son is how to fear and that its okay to discriminate. Its not. As
a parent, sure you should look out for your child's well being, but 
for crying out loud, you should teach your child about acceptance and
then let him decide,(hopefully, without your interference or influence).
If I were at a ball game and Magic were heading for me (cause I am in
the direction he is running (who knows he might have it for your
personally)) chasing a loose ball, I'd stay in my seat, because moving
out of the way may cause worse injury, if contact was made.

Oh, by the way are you homophobic, too?
From: ellie@ora.com (Ellie Cutler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Rosters? (KNICKS)
Keywords: rosters update
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:25:58 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.

In article <1992Oct09.144536.23969@brtph560.bnr.ca> markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205) writes:
>
>I just read in the Raleigh News & Observer that the New York Knickerbockers
>signed F Eric Anderson, F Terry Dozier, F Louis Jeter, and G Gary Waites,
>yesterday.
>
>What's up with that...
>
I know that Anderson is the kid from Indiana who was passed up by this year's
NBA draft (but taken by Rochester in the CBA draft, and invited to a few NBA
rookie camps).

So color me ignorant, but 1) who in the world are Dozier, Jeter, and Waites-
More CBA-ers?  and 2) where do they fit into the Knicks lineup?
-- 
        Ellie Cutler

        ellie@ora.com               
        uunet!ora!ellie
From: dewey@ccs.northeastern.edu (Dwight S Flewelling)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: rec.sport.basketball.pro.celtics, etc
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:42:50 GMT
Organization: College of CS, Northeastern U

An ALL CELTICS newsgroup ?  If it means I don't have to scan thru 500
posts a day about Magic Johnson and HIV+, I'm 100% behind you, otherwise
I'd have to agree that it would be a little boring without the CRY-BABY Knicks
fans ragging on the all mighty C's.

Besides I rather enjoy seeing how everyone else reacts to PRO-CELTS posts.

Oh, by the way, could someone call NY GM Checketts and thank him for the
early "X"-mas present...
From: ghc@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gary Cheng)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Lakers
Date: 10 Oct 92 19:44:41 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: tsunami.berkeley.edu


   Is there a Lakers mailing list for all those die-hard Laker fans?
     BTW, is there any news coming out of the Lakers training camp?
From: raghu@nairobi.eecs.umich.edu (Raghu Mani)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Quest for the threepeat...
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:12:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: zip.1992Oct16.161208.21599
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI

In article <ldslipINNppd@cronkite>, andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM (Andy Knipp SE Andersen) writes:
|> 
|> In Eurpoean news,  Bulls pick & silver medalist Toni Kukoc reportedly 
|> wants to sign with the Bulls & buy out of his Italian contract.  Since
|> I think the Bulls have 1-1.5 Mil still under the cap that they can play,
|> however,  they would likely need to trade a current player.
|> 

If Kukoc does sign then it's goodbye Rodney McCray - I'm sure there are 
quite a few teams who would want to take him. Problem is - where does 
Kukoc play? He can probably play both shooting guard and small forward
but both those positions are taken. Point guard? - well he can probably 
play that position but he is certainly too big to defend some of the 
quicker points in the NBA. And I doubt he would accept coming off the 
bench.

Raghu
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