HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hongbin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Hongbin Isaac Liu)
Subject: Re: Any experience of discrimination in school?  HELP!!
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 21:09:19 GMT

In article <C0JzyA.4x1@rex.uokhsc.edu> u235@rex.uokhsc.edu (Yung-Jin Lee) writes:
>I post this message for one of my friends.  He says:
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>I have a problem here.  I don't want to say this word but I can't
>help.  That is 'discrimination' from one of professors in our graduate
>school.   I don't know how I should deal with it.  Any opinion will be
>appreciated.
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Thank in advance.

What kind of discrimination is it? Is it related to his grades? research?
Does he have evidence to support that? 
If your friend thinks the grade is not fair because he is a Chinese, I suggest 
him to talk to the prof. first, tell him what he thinks. If that's not enough,
and your friend has enough evidence for discrimination, he should talk to
his department graduate advisor, the department chairman, then the Ass. Dean
for student affairs, the Studnet Body, the University and local NAACP office,
and hire a lawyer, maybe he can help your friend to win some money.
Be careful when precedd to next level, I suggest him to stop as soon as he gets
what he want, such as a fair grade.He should stand up for his right. Isaac
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: rt12@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (R. M. Tsay)
Subject: Eten Chinese program
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 10 Jan 93 16:42:33 GMT

Can someone tell me where to buy Eten UFO Chinese program (3.x) and HP 
LaserJet driver in the U.S.? Or someone, who no longer uses them, want 
to sell them.


Thank you.     --R. Tsay
--
****************************************************************************** 
    Rueyming Tsay                           323 Uris Hall
    eyfy@cornella.bitnet                    Cornell University
    rt12@crux2.cit.cornell.edu              Ithaca, New York 14853
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: ipacs@solomon.technet.sg (IPACS PTE LTD)
Subject: Re: email in Taiwan?
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 12:46:26 GMT

Eugene Liu (Eugene.Liu@launchpad.unc.edu) wrote:
: Almost all universities in Taiwan are linked to Internet now, so I'd say many
: people, especially college students, are enjoying e-mail at the moment. :)


What about the companies in Taiwan can they apply to obtain InterNet Access too.
For example, can a company involved in Research and Development apply thru
either the University or any commercial sources to gain InterNet access?
If so, how and who do we approach.

Thank you.
From: ericlaw@vax.cns.muskingum.edu (Eric Law, Geology Department)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Li-Hau Institution
Date: 12 Jan 93 08:19:17 -0500
Organization: Muskingum College

In article <1993Jan11.193116.25719@cbnews.cb.att.com>, liaohen@cbnews.cb.att.com (Heng-Hsin Liao) writes:
> 
> Any opinion on should Hau stay and who's next?
> 
	** Hau should stay.

	   Because he knows what democracy is. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: wwang@iastate.edu (Wen-Ping Wang)
Subject: Re: Fight in Taiwan's legislature reported on WPIX TV, NYC 
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 08:17:12 GMT

In article <C0Lruu.upD@austin.ibm.com> tylee@leety.austin.ibm.com (Ty Lee) writes:
> ..............
>The scenarios displayed used not to be like this. Ever since a former
>member of the opposition party coming back from former West Germany
>believed the conferrees should use
>any means possible to force the other part not underestimate
>their will, and some even suugested the scenarios were seen on early
>Japanese Diet, people of both parties gradually believe, with the risk of
>being laughed at, and practice this almost every meeting in ROC's political
>arena.
>

Just a side note. If you are talking about Mr. Ju Gau-chen, he is then
an ally of KMT now. Although he is still the chairman of his party,
but he is allying himslef with the New KMT Alliance now. Talking about
the fast changing world of politics! Imagine someday he will join the
KMT?! :-)

W.P. Wang
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: changhp@engin.umich.edu (Hsiou-Ping Chang)
Subject: Re: China(was More than 50% support TI)
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 00:22:44 EST
Organization: The University of Michigan
Reply-To: echang@engin.umich.edu
Originator: changhp@fijan.engin.umich.edu


In article <C0Conp.xHM@austin.ibm.com>, tylee@leety.austin.ibm.com (Ty Lee) writes:
> In article <1993Jan4.191415.18969@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
> > .....
> >that the Northern China Plains are more fertile than the Great Plains or the
> >Ukrainian Plains.
> > 
> 
> Do you still want to waste the bandwidth by discussing the irrelevant issues
> about China and your history knowledge on the net. Please do not digress
> too far.
	
	Mr. Lu is a very knowledgeable person and his articles are very
interesting and well written.  Reading more his articles will help you become
more open-minded.  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: syliao@athena.mit.edu (Stan Yi-Huang Liao)
Subject: Posting for a friend
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:25:40 GMT

I am posting this for my friend Tsai Kuo-Yeang.  His e-mail address is
given below; please do not reply to me.

Thanks.

---- Message from Tsai Kuo-Yeang   tsaiky@umc.com.tw ----

Greetings,

It has been about three months since I left SCT in the US, and I would
like to
get in touch with old-timers on SCT who still remember me, or anyone
who I may
offer my help in any possible way.

My internet address is tsaiky@umc.com.tw, please feel free to contact
me,
especially on things pertaining to job/business opportunities in
Taiwan.

May God bless you all and Taiwan!

Regards,
Tsai, Kuo-Yeang

Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: China(was More than 50% support TI)
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:59:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.080631.4256@vax.cns.muskingum.edu> ericlaw@vax.cns.muskingum.edu (Eric Law, Geology Department) writes:
>In article <C0p1yt.7KL@ulowell.ulowell.edu>, cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
>
>> More population did indicate the balance was in favor of
>> better condition, one of which was better food supply;
>> Please do not use a single period--Thrre Kingdoms, to generalize whole ancient
>> chinese history, ancient China had most population concentration on Earth from
>> 280bc to current.
>> I hope I do not have to explain again.
>> 
>
>	** Please do. You haven't answer my former question yet.
>
>	   Is better food condition the only reason for the fact
>	   that China has the largest population in the world?
Dominent reason. You may argument, government encourage population growth,
or family prefer to have more children in ancient times. But necceassary for
large population was food supply, where black afica, South east asia, middle
east, central asia could not supply, because of unfavourable natural
condition, West Europe, India, China could supply because of agiculturely
suitable natutual conditions(especially in China), and better agiculture
technique( as in China). "New World"'s lag behind was becauseof lackof
interaction withotherregion

wq

>


Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: China(was More than 50% support TI)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:12:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.081621.4258@vax.cns.muskingum.edu> ericlaw@vax.cns.muskingum.edu (Eric Law, Geology Department) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.183020.6056@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, nlu@csd-d-5.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>
>> And you still haven't answered my objection that a large population doesn't
>> automatically mean that the lands were fertile.
>
>	** Most population are in rural area.
>
>	   They need more people means they need more labor.
>
>	   They need more labor because they need more food.
>
>	   They need more food because the land is lean.
>
>	   Am I right?

Yes, but this is also a perfect example of a non-sequitur.

How does it support or refute my objection, or have anything to do with it?
Xref: sparky soc.culture.taiwan:16898 soc.culture.china:34320
From: sjtu@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Shu-Ju Tu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Any experience of discrimination in school?  HELP!!
Date: 10 Jan 93 17:16:05 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.taiwan
Organization: Purdue University Physics Department

In article <C0JzyA.4x1@rex.uokhsc.edu> u235@rex.uokhsc.edu (Yung-Jin Lee) writes:
>I have a problem here.  I don't want to say this word but I can't
>help.  That is 'discrimination' from one of professors in our graduate
>school.   I don't know how I should deal with it.  Any opinion will be
>appreciated.
Hi:


Would you please tell us a little more details. 


Tu, Shu-Ju
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: liaohen@cbnews.cb.att.com (Heng-Hsin Liao)
Subject: Re: Fight in Taiwan's legislature reported on WPIX TV, NYC 
Organization: AT&T Bell Lab
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:12:22 GMT

From article <1993Jan9.184331.1781@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, by wa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.f.casey):
> In article <1993Jan9.125757.4237@vax.cns.muskingum.edu> ericlaw@vax.cns.muskingum.edu (Eric Law, Geology Department) writes:
>>	** After seeing the spectacular fight among Guo2 Dai4
> <	   on Jan 8, [....   ]                      ^^^ Taiwan's congress?
> 
> Last night (Jan 8, Friday), on New York City TV channel 11 (WPIX), on their
> news show, they showed video footage of a fight that broke out in their
> legislative body (equivalent to the USA Congress) during a dabate.  Showed
> members yelling and throwing fists and wrestling on the floor.  No mention
> on this newscast as to what issue was being debated that started this
> brawl.  Mentioned that members of the "opposition party" and the "ruling
> party" were involved.  I had the feeling that the news reporters of 
> this TV channel were "milking" this story for laughs, and saying that
> debates in USA's Congress, while heated at times, rarely get like this.
> I seem to remember hearing about another brawl in Taiwan's legislature
> about 6 to 12 months ago?  Hope I'm wrong, but how common is this anyway?

You are right. Taiwan is still a developing country. We are still learning
a lot of things, including democracy. This is where we are now.

A much more important fact is we are progressing. Yes, you are going to
hear about more fights. At the same time, you are going to see much more
mature forms of debates and negotiations.

This is where we are. However, we are learning and progressing.


Heng-Hsin

Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: u8016044@cc.nctu.edu.tw (Ying-jie Chen)
Subject: Re: Any Good Majong Games in Taiwan
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:46:51 GMT

Bill Huang (nhuang@cs.ulowell.edu) wrote:
: 
: hi all, did anybody find any good majong game in united states or taiwan?
: i am sick of palying hong kong or japanese style majong, if there any 
: taiwan style majong, please e-mail me, thank you!
: 
   The Softstar Information Corp here produced a typical
Taiwanes Mahjong game (16-piece  style) that may be of interest
to you. Softstar can be reached at
   No.1, Floor 6, Sec. 1, Chung-ching N. Rd., Taipei, Taiwan
   +886 02 543 1350 (Tel)

Notice : the interface is complete in Chinese!

/Ying-jie Chen/ Property Officer in the Chinese Marine Corps

Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: China(was More than 50% support TI)
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 02:50:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.054246.10630@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.043258.28493@zip.eecs.umich.edu> joy@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Chien-Chung Chen) writes:
>
>>Growing "wheat" for fertilizer? I get confused by both of you.
>>Could some kind soul explain this to me?
>
>I guess I was wrong.  At the first reading, I interpreted his remark to say,
>"with fertilizer" instead of "for fertilizer."  But after thinking about it,
>I guess you can't have places that can produce wheat *and* three crops of
>rice.  So, my apologies.
>
>(But then, I don't think you can really count "weeds" as a harvest, if that
>is what he meant.  After all, I can grow weeds in the back of my garden,
>at least three times a year; does that mean that I get three harvests out of
>my (unfertilized) backyard?)
There is kind of weeds called "Mu Xun", normally palanted in the idle rice
paddi for fertilizer, it is eatbale too.


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From: stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Why mainlanders are so mixed up?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 18:20:24 GMT
Organization: Sun
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: stevelin

In article <1993Jan12.103401.4262@vax.cns.muskingum.edu> jfeng@vax.cns.muskingum.edu writes:
>In article <1itilpINN8oj@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>, utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan) writes:
>> 
>> stronger and stronger. And if Mr. Lin is still hanging on with KMT, then
>> KMT's days are countable. Sign.....
>>>>                  -----------
>I agree with you.  If he is not capable of 
>rational discussions, he'd better stay out of the way.  
>
To Pan's unfounded accusation, I have to ignore it as what Pan's ignored TAM.
Finally I have found the reason why the CCP keeps killing but stays. With people
having minds as above, the CCP will keep suppressing and killing to eliminate
the different voices.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: jackw@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Jack Wu)
Subject: Re: Is TI so rossy?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:23:17 GMT

In article <C0pp6J.1qr@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.171150.26968@oakhill.sps.mot.com> jackw@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Jack Wu) w
rites:
>>In article <C0JIAJ.Ap@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
>>>Who caused the problem is not as important as how to solve the problem.
>>>Taiwan is holding unification as hostage, in excuse of CCP, and refuses
>>>contact with mainland. This may cause  Chinese people disaster, if not managed
>>>carefully, given some nation are taking advantage of the situation.
>>                  -----------
>>Sounds like a CCP's propaganda. I guess your SOME NATION is implying
>>the Red China. Wake up, jerk. Only the CCP wants to take advantage from
>>both Hong-Kong and Taiwan. Tell your CCP the unification is already dead
>>after Tianman Square Massacre. Only jerks like you will believe them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Jack Wu
>Lovely. That  is not upto _your_ choice.

Thanks for this sneaky compliment. You still did not understand democracy.
Of course, it is not up to me. But, it is absolutely not up to CCP or KMT. Only
people in Taiwan can decide what they want. Right?  Hope it makes sense to you.




Jack Wu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: joy@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Chien-Chung Chen)
Subject: Re: Chong1 Guang3 broadcast (Was Re: Excellence, Made in Taiwan)
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:52:24 GMT

In article <9026@dirac.physics.purdue.edu> sjtu@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Shu-Ju Tu) writes:
>Would you please tell us how to get the radio from the mail order
>you mentioned in your article.

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(Once I saw people got flamed on a newsgroup for posting commercial
advertisement. Geez, hope I won't get flamed.)

-- Chien-Chung Chen
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: li@sicvax.enet.dec.com (Tom Li)
Subject: Re: China(was More than 50% support TI)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:45:00 GMT


In article <C0B1ns.AI3@ulowell.ulowell.edu>, cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes...
>
>  China's current grain, meat production ranks number  1 in the world.
>China has land that can produce  three harvests of rice and one harvest of
>weeds for fertilizer.

Given a so polulated nation, China certainly can win many #1, it is likely 
one day China will win #1 in Olympics Gold, #1 in foreign trade... But you 
should divide these numbers by population to see if they are real number 1. 
Even China's grain and meat production ranks #1 in the world. But how many 
agriculture population in China? I heard it is 80% of population. How many 
percent of agriculture population in US? My guess is about 10%-20%. If US has 
1 billion of people, then certainly she has to raise more cows, grains etc
to feed themselves, then who will hold the #1. So I think the most important
is PRODUCTIVITY. 

Certainly China has done very well in economy in the past 10 years. The 
economic growth of 1992 is about 10% (certainly it is #1 in the world) which 
is very encouraging. Sometimes I think giving Chinese opportunity they really
can create prosperity. Taiwan, HK, Singapore, now China. Isnt it a positive
factor for unification? :-)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: China(was More than 50% support TI)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:11:07 GMT

In article <liqiang.726187604@kramden> liqiang@kramden.nyu.edu (Li) writes:

Thanks for a well-thought article...  Great job.  (I must say that I am not
an expert, or even close to well-knowledged, about the *current* status of
Chinese farming; all I have is history to base on.)

>I suspect the Yellow River was a well-behaved river in ancient times. The
>current flood peril has been due to unrelenting destruction of the trees that
>used to forest the now Huangtu Plateau, isn't that so? Thus the fact
>that the US and Europe have seen fewer and less severe floods is due
>to their extensive forestry which China traditionally (not now unfortunately)
>also enjoyed.

The Yellow River really wasn't a well-behaved river in ancient times either.
For example, in 17 B. C. (there were earlier floods, but this is one that I
know more about), a Yellow River flood destroyed 31 counties in Bo-Hai,
Chin-He, and Shin-tu jun4's (roughly current eastern Hebei).  The Yellow
River itself underwent at least 7 major re-routing in history, each time
bringing in tremendous loss in human life.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.taiwan:16944 soc.culture.china:34403
From: utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Why mainlanders are so mixed up?
Date: 11 Jan 1993 22:50:01 -0600
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: uxa.ecn.bgu.edu

In article <ll3labINNki@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.171150.26968@oakhill.sps.mot.com> (Jack Wu) writes:
>>In article <C0JIAJ.Ap@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes: 
>
.....

>ROC has no will to unify under the CCP, don't you guys get it?
>Taiwan has no intention to unify with mainland under CCP ruling, don't you know?
>Taiwan is the hope of Chinese in moving toward democracy, don't you get it?
>If it was not CCP, who would have caused millions of Chinese people killed for
>no reasons? It it is not CCP, who is that stupid to push China backward for
>30-40 years? If it is not CCP, how come a properious Shanghai became a humble
>old-man like city? If it is not CCP, why all Chinese became blue uniform
>citizens (don't you know blue class under the CCP is slave?)?

Having being in the net for more than one year, I've read many many
articles from different point. From CCP, D-fighters, TI's, and KMT. Now
I start to worry about KMT's future. For example, The TI people, I don't
agree with their point view, yet their argument is well prepared and
they are quite knowledgable about what they are talking about. (Of
course not all of them). D-fighters are well organized and working step
by step. Everybody has seen their achievement. CCP (I'm not sure whether
they are the real CCP supporters, may just holding the same opinions)
with ethusiasm, showing their courage and steadyness. But only Mr. Lin
with his work supporting KMT brings trouble to KMT. No doubt there are
many people over here holding the opinion as KMT, but with Mr. Lin's
involvement, I believe fewer and fewer people dare to stand up in showing
their sympathy to KMT.  
 
I don't know what happens to KMT, is it so desperate that they can
tolerate the person as Mr. Lin as its front end in scc. Or might be it
is KMT's nature which causes its losing China. (We all know that KMT's
propaganda department before 1949 was a joke) No wonder that DPP becomes
stronger and stronger. And if Mr. Lin is still hanging on with KMT, then
KMT's days are countable. Sign.....
>>                  -----------
Tingli Pan
From: ericlaw@vax.cns.muskingum.edu (Eric Law, Geology Department)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: A thought on Mainlanders' Attitude
Date: 12 Jan 93 08:20:46 -0500
Organization: Muskingum College

In article <1993Jan11.190902.28930@oakhill.sps.mot.com>, kenw@austlcm.sps.mot.com (kenw) writes:

>          The younger generation in Taiwan already forgot what CCP is (or they never know)
>          in the way CKS or his followers want you to know.
> 

	** Yes. Which is true.7
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From: u235@rex.uokhsc.edu (Yung-Jin Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
Subject: Any experience of discrimination in school?  HELP!!
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:06:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: rex.C0JzyA.4x1
Organization: University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center, OKC

I post this message for one of my friends.  He says:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I have a problem here.  I don't want to say this word but I can't
help.  That is 'discrimination' from one of professors in our graduate
school.   I don't know how I should deal with it.  Any opinion will be
appreciated.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank in advance.