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From: peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva)
Subject: Re: The bad news about Dell Unix (was: SysV)
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:53:13 GMT

In article <1410@pacsoft.com> mike@pacsoft.com (Mike Stefanik) writes:
> Since most DOS folks have been conditioned to think of UNIX as a huge,
> unmanageable monster, the "Lite" seems like an attempt to allay those fears.

Boy, are they gonna be upset with NT.
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From: dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.e.wexelblat)
Subject: Re: jobs to run at powerdown
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:02:58 GMT

In article <BvpA45.E33@gator.rn.com> larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
> bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) writes:
> 
> >Perhaps you would have more success if you put it in /etc/rc0.d  :-)
> 
> I did -- aren't the scripts executed in sucession?
> 
> ie: -- if you are in init state 3 and go to 0, isn't everything
> in rc2.d run, followed by everything in rc1.d, then everything in
> rc0.d?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Larry Snyder                                    internet: larry@gator.rn.com
> keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry


What gets run is controlled by /etc/inittab.  init does a linear search
of the file, and runs each entry that corresponds to the run level
being entered.  These are generally /sbin/rc?, which in turn execute
the files in /etc/rc?.d.  I think that if you read /etc/inittab and
the /sbin/rc? files you will see the order that things are done.  In
general, I believe that:

	init 0 - run /sbin/rc0, then uadmin
	init S - run /sbin/rc0
	init 2 - run /sbin/rc2
	init 3 - run /sbin/rc2, then /sbin/rc3
	init 6 - run /sbin/rc6


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From: swf@teradata.com (Stanley Friesen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r4
Subject: Re: Unix "Lite" is not so light
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:14:17 GMT
Reply-To: swf@tdat.teradata.com (Stanley Friesen)
Organization: NCR Teradata Database Business Unit

In article <1a7cspINNmmu@cs.utexas.edu> turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin) writes:
|-*----
|My understanding is that SVr4.2 has all the function of SVr4.0,
|and more.  It is light only in that it is better organized, and
|so can be run with less memory.  It also provides a toolkit and
|interface builder for creating Motif/OpenLook GUI programs.
|
This is probably a good time to ask:

What exactly are the differences between SVr4.0 and SVr4.2?


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From: kamil@alumni.cs.colorado.edu (Kamil Maheshwari)
Subject: CSCOPE : Is it going to be part of the release?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:11:09 GMT


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Netters,

Does anyone have CSCOPE (the source browser tool) running on their
SUN box? Is it possible to get the sources for this beast? I really
like working with cscope and can't seem to get it form any familiar
arch sites. I think its a public domain thing..

thanks very much in advance. please e-mail me at
			     *******************
kamil@alumni.cs.colorado.edu

PS: Is this going to become part of the SVR4? Is it already?

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From: shwake@nearside.UUCP (Raymond Shwake)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r4
Subject: Re: Unix "Lite" is not so light
Date: 1 Oct 92 01:50:34 GMT
Organization: A/C International

scott@unixland.natick.ma.us (Scott Evernden) writes:

>Like all the "new" Unices coming down the pike, 4.2 UnixLite (like Solaris 2)
>is lite because all those "useless" programmer tools will not be in there:

>% cc -c xeyes.c
>cc: Command not found.

	If by UnixLite you are referring to the Destiny "Foundation Set",
	that's so. But most - if not all - the development capabilities you
	expect are available in the extension packages. If my beta package
	(v.12) is any indication, there's a lot there (92 disketttes in
	my set). Like many, I await info on component/module pricing - not
	to mention formal availability.
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From: mcleung@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Man C. Leung)
Subject: Re: jobs to run at powerdown
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 00:09:46 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.143143.2173@bilver.uucp> bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) writes:
>In article <BvM4sD.1wu@gator.rn.com> larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
>>How do I add new jobs to be executed at powerdown?
>
>>I have a script called K39bbs in /etc/rc2.d that I would like
>>to run when bringing the machine down -- and it isn't running.
>
>Perhaps you would have more success if you put it in /etc/rc0.d  :-)
>
>-- 
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>                - bill@bilver.uucp 
>                - ..!{peora|ge-dab|tous|tarpit}!bilver!bill
>


i think the default shutdown state is 's' rather than 0.  nothing can
be run at state 0, since this state means power off.

maybe u can try adding an entry in /etc/inittab for state 's'...



man.
From: bonnie@rat2.njit.edu (Bonnie MacKellar)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r4
Subject: Re: The bad news about Dell Unix (was: SysV)
Date: 26 Sep 92 18:31:39 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

I have heard, both from a DELL technical person and
a SunSoft salesperson, that DELL is likely to
distribute Solaris in the future.
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From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: SysV
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:17:36 GMT

ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata - FSO) writes:

>How well does Dell SYSV4 Unix depend on Dell hardware, or can it be run
>on other machines?

It would seem this would depend largely on what your "other machine" is!

The one thing we ALL know is that is runs PERFECTLY on LARRY'S machine :-)
You might want to try and duplicate his setup :-)


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From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk)
Subject: Re: The bad news about Dell Unix  (was: SysV)
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 04:05:01 GMT

>-*----
>Dell has gutted its Unix group.  Given economic conditions, they
>seem to have decided that what they have is enough.  [...]

Can someone flesh this out further?  How many people did they have
before and how many now?  Any names of who's staying and who's gone?


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From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (Stew Ellis)
Subject: Re: sendmail for SVR4
Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute, Flint, MI
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 01:21:07 GMT

kelly@netcom.com (Kelly Goen) writes:


> Not only this but the forwarding only works from an entry in your
>/var/mail/user and the mail file has to be empty before starting forwarding
>and ending it .forward isnt supported and the alias syntax is
>incompatible with sendmail... mailsurr is a REAL abortion......
>a very unhappy (former mailsurr user)...
>sysadmin
>     cheers
>     kelly

Exactly how does one become an ex mailsurr user and still be a SYSVR4 user?
Sendmail.cf may be a total pain, but it is a pain I understand reasonably
well.  Will starting /usr/ucblib/sendmail in the rc files instead of smtpd
do the trick?  Do the user agents hand of mail properly to sendmail?

Enquiring minds want to know.

Thanx.

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From: zdxh0a@trc.amoco.com (Douglas Horn)
Subject: Re: UHC SVR4 & Gtw/2K EISA
Originator: zdxh0a@gpss53
Keywords: SCSI hangs
Organization: Amoco Production Company, Tulsa Research
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:43:01 GMT


In article <1139@tdat.teradata.COM>, wbj@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com (William Jones) writes:
> Can anyone shed some light on the cause for the following SCSI hang problem.
> 
> I'm running SVR4 from UHC on a 33MHZ 486 EISA system from GateWay 2000 (Enigma
> Motherboard - rev D6). The system has an Adaptec 1742 SCSI controller, which is
> configured to run in "standard" mode, (i.e. emulating an Adaptec 1542B) as UHC
> (nor any other SVR4 peddler) offers a driver that supports the Adaptec 1742 in
> true 32 bit mode.
> 
> The problem I have is in reading in data from cpio and/or tar tapes from my
> Archive Viper 2150S streamer tape drive. The data reads in fine, but on SOME
> tapes, the system hangs after reading in all the data from the tape. I should
> say that the tar or cpio process hangs, as other running processes continue to
> execute till they need to perform disk IO. Eventually, all the processes hang,
> and according to KDB they were put to sleep in some sd01... (SCSI driver) routine. 
> 
> I've checked (and rechecked) my SCSI cabling & terminations, tried two different
> 2150S tape drives and two different MAXTOR disk drives. Gateway has also replaced
> the motherboard once and the SCSI controller three times. The failure occurs in
> exactly the same way regardess of how I order the above array of hardware into
> a runnable configuration.
> 
> The folks at UHC claim I have bad hardware - which I find hard to believe since
> I've replaced everything except the power supply, AND aside for the tape hang, the
> system works fine. The folks at GateWay claim that there are minor incompatabilities
> between how a REAL Adaptec 1542B works and how a 1742 emulates one - especially
> with non-SCSI II devices, and UHC's driver should be smart enough to deal with
> the differences.
> 
> Can anyone out there tell me who to believe - UHC or GateWay? Has anyone experienced
> similar problems? Any recommended work arounds?
> 
> Thanx in advance for your help.
> 
> bill   
> 
> 

The problem does exist. Try calling David Aitken at UHC. He it the 
top tech guy. I think the problem is the combination of the 2150s
and the 1742 card (if you use a 525 tape drive I believe the problem
goes away).

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From: jack@admin.mport.COM (Jack Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r4
Subject: Re: UHC SVR4 & Gtw/2K EISA
Keywords: SCSI hangs
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:55:14 GMT
Organization: Microport Inc., Scotts Valley, CA 95066 US of A

its the 1740/2. you can prove it by swapping in a 1542b.

jack...
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             Software Horizons SVR3 408-684-1375   uunet!sco.com!blznrzn!jack
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From: dank@cco.caltech.edu (Daniel R. Kegel)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r4
Subject: Berkeley Sockets?
Date: 3 Oct 1992 20:29:46 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

Are Berkeley Sockets available under sys V R4?
- dan k. (dank@alumni.caltech.edu)
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From: mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst)
Subject: Re: Comtrol-R/W in System-V
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 05:12:42 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Programmer's Pit Stop, Ann Arbor MI

In article <23221@optima.cs.arizona.edu> ric@cs.arizona.edu (Ric Anderson) writes:
>Is there some stty option I haven't discovered that will make
>Control-R/Control-W work in the general case (i.e., places other
>than ksh and vi)?

I suspect that you haven't set the "iexten" stty mode.  Without this
set, features from the BSD tty driver (such as word-erase, line
reprinting, and control-character echoing) won't work.

You also won't get these features if you are connected through a
CLIST-based driver, instead of a STREAMS-based driver.  For example,
if you're logging in through a tty port being driven by FAS, instead
of a SAS port.  However, you seem to be implying that you're on the
console, so I don't think this is the problem.

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From: paul@devon.lns.pa.us (Paul Sutcliffe Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r4
Subject: Re: sendmail for SVR4
Date: 5 Oct 92 02:34:41 GMT
Organization: Personal System, Lancaster, PA, USA

cbp@gmhgate.gmh.edu (Christopher Preston) writes:

>In article <jim.717573239@ferkel> jim@ferkel.ucsb.edu (Jim Lick) writes:
>>In <ellis.717556867@nova> ellis@nova.gmi.edu (Stew Ellis) writes:
>>>Exactly how does one become an ex mailsurr user and still be a SYSVR4 user?
>>
>>Simple.  Required is liberal use of the following commands: rm, ftp, make.
>>Get the sendmail sources (I reccomend sendmail+IDA), remove the old mail
>>software, build the new and install.  I'm a heck of a lot happier now.
>>
>>                            Jim Lick		       

>Or do what Dell does in their mailsurr:

>#send absolutely everything to sendmail -- a good setting for most cases
>'.+' '(.+)' '< /usr/ucblib/sendmail  \\1'

Not just Dell.  Every SVR4 I've seen has that in their /usr/ucblib/mailsurr
file.

- paul
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From: dsiegel@optima.UUCP (Dave Siegel)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r4
Subject: Re: The bad news about Dell Unix (was: SysV)
Date: 29 Sep 92 05:04:29 GMT

>>> a SunSoft salesperson, that DELL is likely to
>>> distribute Solaris in the future.
>>That would be a bad move, in my opinion.  If Dell goes to Solaris 2.0, I'm
>>not upgrading.  Now, Solaris 2.1, or 2.0.x, possibly.   There's too much bad
>>news about Solaris for me to trust it.
> Actually we've heard nothing but good things about Solaris 2.0, and
> it's a surprise to hear this negative opinion with no facts along.
> So, what are all the awful things you've heard about Solaris 2.0?

I've heard that it's big, it's slow, and they are still trying like hell to
get the bugs out of the development libraries.  The fact that it is currently
available as an upgrade to an already expensive UN*X product does not 
win my confidence.  I certainly won't be buying it for any of my PC's, nor
would I recommend it to any who ask.

As for SVR4.2, and it being dubbed "Unix Lite", I haven't really read much
about it since the aritcle uni Unix world.  Perhaps I need to go back and
read it, but it seemed to be lacking in much of the functionality that I 
wanted.  I >assume< this is why Dell won't be offering an upgrade path to it.

-dave

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From: rmf@chopin.cs.columbia.edu (Robert M. Fuhrer)
Subject: SysV R4 port list?
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Columbia Univ.
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:23:31 GMT

In a recent posting which listed a number of "Unix alternatives" for PC
compatibles, reference was made to another long posting, by Eric Raymond, which
specifically covered SysV R4 implementations. I haven't seen this posting on
any of the relevant newsgroups. Does anyone have it or know where I can find
it? If this was recently covered, please e-mail answers. Thanks!
--

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From: peet@locus.com (J. David Peet)
Subject: Re: Unix "Lite" is not so light
Organization: Locus Computing Corp, Los Angeles
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 20:58:44 GMT

In article <ellis.717944112@nova> ellis@nova.gmi.edu (Stew Ellis) writes:
>jde@esix.everex.com (Jeff Ellis) writes:
>
>>Richard Griffiths (richardg@ssd.intel.com) wrote:
>>:>|> Let me know what you net users what, while we can still add it!
>>:>
>>:>How about DOS filesystem support and DOS emulation capabilities. 
>
>>Noted.......
>>--
>>Jeff Ellis 					jde@esix.everex.com
>>Esix Computers, Inc.				
>>For Support: support@esix.everex.com   For Sales:   sales@esix.everex.com
>>Disclamer: I do not speak for Esix Computers, Inc or Everex Systems, Inc.
>
>I thought DOS tasking, including the ability to run Windows 3.1 apps, was
>part of the base product.  Isn't that true?
>
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>  Flint, MI 48504      ellis@nova.gmi.edu              /________/ /  /  / /

The base product is whatever the reseller wants to put into it.
One reseller, Univel is putting DOS support in their base package.
Other resellers might or might not have it, depending on what
they think their market wants.
-David Peet
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From: jtk@netcom.com (Jane Valencia)
Subject: Re: The bad news about Dell Unix (was: SysV)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:11:25 GMT

gram@aim1.aztec.co.za (Graham Wheeler) writes:

>Presumably s/he meant *symmetrical* multiprocessing. I may be wrong, but as
>far as I know the Sequent/Corollary etc multiprocessers aren't symmetrical.

Well, I'm afraid you're badly misinformed.  Sequent is, and always has
been, a fully symmetric system.  It started with the Balance line using
a National Semi processor, and then switched to the x86 architecture
for the Symmetry line.  Always symmetric in user, kernel, and interrupt
execution.  I maintained the base OS for a ~2 years, so trust me, I know.
I don't own stock in them (or work for them) any more, so there's also no
reason for me to lie.... :-)

				Andy Valencia
From: ddc@druwa.ATT.COM (CusterDD)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r4
Subject: something
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:31:21 GMT

>From: wbj@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com (William Jones)
Keywords: SCSI hangs
>Message-ID: <1139@tdat.teradata.COM>
>Date: 28 Sep 92 22:36:31 GMT


>.... The system has an Adaptec 1742 SCSI controller, which is
>configured to run in "standard" mode, (i.e. emulating an Adaptec 1542B) as UHC
>(nor any other SVR4 peddler) offers a driver that supports the Adaptec 1742 in
>true 32 bit mode.
>bill

Your statement is not in agreement with the facts:

Interactive 3.0 claims to support the 1742 in native mode (after
installation).  I haven't tried it, but have no reason to doubt the claim.

ESIX 4.0.4 also claims to support the 1742 in native mode.  We run the 1540
and 1542s, but have no reason to doubt that the 1742 is indeed supported.
ESIX also supports several SCSI tape drives, including the ExaByte 8200 and
8500.  We use the 8500 for backup, so it gets used alot everyday.  Works
flawlessly with standard system software including cpio and tar.  To use the
tape all we had to do was to enable the device driver with kconfig.

We have some other UNIXes here that fail to support the SCSI tape on any
controller, even after much tweaking.

Dave

========================================================================
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From: karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger)
Subject: Re: SysV
Summary: I'm not running on Dell hardware
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 11:22:54 GMT
Organization: Macro Computer Solutions, Inc., Chicago, IL

In article <1992Sep28.021807.27715@hfsi.uucp> ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata - FSO) writes:
>
>How well does Dell SYSV4 Unix depend on Dell hardware, or can it be run
>on other machines?

My hardware is a MCS (read: I built the sucker) 80486; not a DELL piece in
the machine.

Still not a problem....

What do you miss?  The "smartvu" display on the front panel.

If you call Dell and ask them they'll send you a hardware compatibility
list.  Its not as long as some other makes of Unix, but in some ways that
makes it easy.  It does, however, include the common things you would find
in a Unix machine.

My system includes:

o)	80486 MB, 33Mhz, 16Mb RAM
o)	Adaptec 1542
o)	MAXTOR drives until they won't quit ;-)
o)	Archive 2150S
o)	WD8013 ethernet adapter
o)	Digiboard PC/16i serial card
o)	VGA card and monitor

Its plug and play.

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From: cbp@gmhgate.gmh.edu (Christopher Preston)
Subject: Re: sendmail for SVR4
Organization: Grady Memorial Hospital
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 07:14:16 GMT

In article <jim.717573239@ferkel> jim@ferkel.ucsb.edu (Jim Lick) writes:
>In <ellis.717556867@nova> ellis@nova.gmi.edu (Stew Ellis) writes:
>>Exactly how does one become an ex mailsurr user and still be a SYSVR4 user?
>
>Simple.  Required is liberal use of the following commands: rm, ftp, make.
>Get the sendmail sources (I reccomend sendmail+IDA), remove the old mail
>software, build the new and install.  I'm a heck of a lot happier now.
>
>                            Jim Lick		       

Or do what Dell does in their mailsurr:

#send absolutely everything to sendmail -- a good setting for most cases
'.+' '(.+)' '< /usr/ucblib/sendmail  \\1'

Takes about ten seconds (typing speed may vary).

Of course, the next step should be to replace sendmail with
smail3 ... 


cbp
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From: dsiegel@optima.UUCP (Dave Siegel)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r4
Subject: Re: Unix "Lite" is not so light
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:06:12 GMT

From article <2974@news.cerf.net>, by jde@esix.everex.com (Jeff Ellis):
> We are talking about adding a Colorado memory tape driver and maybe shipping
> it on DC20?? type tapes as a option. 
> Let me know what you net users what, while we can still add it!

Colorado Tape distrtibution would be a plus for those of us building systems
from scratch, or those upgrading their current PC's to UN*X as inexpensively
as possible, but for those of us that already have UN*X, we've already got
either 4mm DAT, SCSI QIC, or QIC-02, as expensive as they are.  I don't think
that alone would do it.

The thing that would sell me would be to get the price down.  I've got Dell,
currently, and I think that someone in Pheonix quoted me a price of around
$3000 for the equivalent OS, with all the frills that one can purchase from
Dell for $1395.

-dave

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