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>> Chocolate contains theobromide, which is toxic to dogs.  How much
>> is a problem depends on the chocolate, the dog's tolerance, and his
>> size.

I have heard that stuff stays in a dog's stomach for a couple of hours before
being absorbed/passed on (our experiences with puppy food barfed back up onto
the carpet an hour after eating would tend to bear this out...).  So if you
manage to catch them shortly after they have eaten something questionable,
making them throw up can reduce the risk.  This is very easy - we used
2 teaspoons of salt (stick it on the back of their tongue and make sure they
don't spit it back out) for a 65 lb dog.  You should get results within 10-15
minutes.

				Kathy Moser
				Hewlett-Packard, Network Printer Division
				Boise, ID

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From: pdsmith.mitre.org (Pat Smith)
Subject: Re: Invisible fences
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:40:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.110807.2267@inland.com>, walls@inland.com writes:
> 
> Hi, Netters!! I was wondering if someone could give me information on
> invisible fences. Are these safe?? Do they protect animals from wandering?
> Are they humane?? Any information would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
I have one and it works most of the time.  I have a husky and they are
high tolerant dogs.  I have seen a doberman on the system and it never
wandered off.  The fence system is all radio waves.  The dog wears a receiver
and you have a transmitter in the garage or some protected area.  As the dog
approaches the wire (you can vary the distance), he/she will hear a tone and
if the dog keeps going, they get a shock.  Most dogs learn real quick
and do not challenge the system  Huskies and the nothern breeds sometimes
do challenge it as they learn if they tolerate the shock, they can run thru
it and be free!  
The system is a bit prone to lightening hits and they sell a lightening 
arrester which did not work at least one.  The house down the street took 
a hit and just the electricity in the ground was enough to blow up the
lightening arrestor and the transmitter.  I had fortunately unplugged the
unit from the AC.  Company replaced it all free of charge as they 
guarentee against such things.  
You need to keep fresh batteried inthe receiver and the winter tends to
cause problems as the temperature drops. Batteries tend not to perform in
the cold as we know about cars.  My dog knows physics and I can predict his
wandering off when the therometer dips below 10 degrees.  
I would recommend it - its cheaper than to fence in your entire yard and if
your dog digs, this solves that problem better than a physical fence.
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From: djg@cray.com (Dennis Guldan)
Subject: OFA & Dwarfism
Date: 15 Sep 92 09:57:52 CDT

  Sorry to take up bandwidth... like one more is going to kill us...
but I was asked about OFA and Dwarfism from an Aussie in Canberra
and my return mail bounced...

   I haven't read anything about the OFA doing studies on Dwarfism
but that does not mean they aren't.


   Dennis Guldan
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From: vlcoleman@lescsse.jsc.nasa.gov (vicki coleman)
Subject: Re: Shutter Bugs (WAS: Re: Saying Goodbye to an Old Friend)
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Co. 
Distribution: usa
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:25:46 GMT

In <BuByxx.GsL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> schlumpf@uimrl8.mrl.uiuc.edu (Kay Schlumpf) writes:

>Goodness! That sounds like me!!! They keep asking me "When you gonna have 
>some grandkids for us to spoil ?" and I say "Just look down....take your pick, 
>any of them will happily be cuddled and spoiled!" I've taken so many rolls 
>of film of my Cocker and two cats...and soon the new pup will get his turn 
>under my shutter...:-) It's the normal roll of film that's only composed of
> pets and model horses...anything else is unusual!!!

>Kay Schlumpf

Sounds like me too.  I even had an enlarged color photocopy made of a
picture of my Finnish Spitz and put it onto a T-shirt.  Then I used
this T-shirt paint stuff and wrote, around the picture of Tavvi,
"I Love My Granddog" and sent it to my mother.  She _loved_ it
(of course, she knows that Tavvi is the only grandchild she's
going to get from me :-)  ).
From: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Black GSDs
Date: 10 Sep 92 07:31:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 

TO: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu

KS>As the time approaches for us to bring Siegfriend home (like FRIDAY!)
KS>I am beginning to think. The breeders say it looks like he's going to
KS>stay black and that it's not a common color. Are black GSDs THAT
KS>rare? I didn't see many in the books, but then, not a lot of them had
KS>good photographs so I could tell.  Are black GSDs banned from the
KS>show ring like the white ones? They told us he wasn't show
KS>quality, conformation wasn't right, but I forgot to ask about the
KS>color.  I don't want to show him anyways, not in conformation
KS>anyway, maybe in obedience, depends on  a lot of stuff. They
KS>mentioned that he could bring in a lot of money as a stud just
KS>because he was black, well, we were going to get him neutered
KS>anyways but just out of curiousity, would he really?

Black is not a disqualifing color in the conformation ring. I have not
seen it that often, but am not sure how rare it is. When stating that it
is not Show Quaility she could be talking about a number of things. His
front, topline, rear or head, or a combination of any. You have made a
wise decision in having him nuetered. It will eleviate problems in the
future. I don't know how much of a Stud Fee you could ask, or if you
could make Lots of Money using him at stud. A Stud Fee in Bostons/Boxers
is usually around $250.00 for finished dogs. If they are of Great
Quality they can go ever higher.

Kathleen

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From: megm@sco.COM (Meg McRoberts)
Subject: Re: IAMS and other dog foods
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 18:25:27 GMT


In article <1992Sep4.203342.19940@ctr.columbia.edu> mcfadden@bellman.lanl.gov writes:
==> 
==> I have eleven dogs at the moment, ranging in age from 7 months to
==> 14 1/2 years. They are all currently on a mixture of Breeder's
==> Choice, IAMS, and ANF.
[stuff deleted]
==> (I mix the three brands because my dogs are spoiled rotten and like
==> their food better when they have the variety rather than just one
==> brand at a time.)
==> 
my dog's dermo in florida recommended varying the diet if the
dog can tolerate it (apparently some dogs have trouble switching
foods, so they should be left on one diet).  her theory was that
all the good dog foods are nutritionally complete according to our
current nutritional knowledge, but the variety increases the odds
that the dog also gets what future research will uncover.

personally, i have no problem with the "spoiled rotten" theory of
dog care, but it's nice to have a "scientific" explanation in hand
to justify ones behavior ;-)
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From: megm@sco.COM (Meg McRoberts)
Subject: Re: Feeding Dogs Veggies and Fruit?
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 08:03:16 GMT


In article <1992Sep5.162220.6622@infonode.ingr.com> bbrown@infonode.ingr.com (Bailey Brown) writes:
==> 
==> Does anyone know if ketchup and tomato sauce are ok for dogs to eat?
==> 
ketchup is loaded with sugar, so it depends how you feel
about giving your dog sugar.  but tomato sauce is great,
and most dogs seem to just love it.  besides tasting good,
it is acidic, which can affect the PH of the urinary system,
and the more acidic the less apt the dog is to form stones.
some garlic, oregano, and basil can be added, too, although
some people will accuse you of spoiling the dog if you do
that for them ;-)
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From: martin@biostat.washington.edu (Don Martin)
Subject: Re: Hair over eyes
Organization: Biostatistics, School of Public Health, Univ. of Wash.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:42:57 GMT

Julie Hill writes:

>The AKC Obedience Rule Book states:
>
>  Any dog whose hair over its eyes interferes with its vision, may have the
>hair over its eyes tied back with either a neutral colored rubber band or a
>small plain barrette.  Maltese, Poodles, Shih Tzu and Yorkshire Terriers, may
>be shown with their hair tied back as they are normally shown in the breed
>ring. (Chapter 1, Section 16)
>
>Julie
>
Yes, this is accurate. The OES is not shown in the breed ring
with its hair tied up so this exception does not count.
The "foriegn objects in the coat precludes tieing up the hair.


I have debated trying to make the point by spinning some
of the dogs brushings into yarn and using it to hold the
hair back. Is wool from the dogs coat a foriegn substance?

Don Martin
Widdershins Old English Sheepdogs
From: mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (Sky Warrior)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Diamond Dog Food
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:18:07 GMT

A friend of mine (who is also a musher) tried Diamond Dog food and her entire
kennel had diarrhea and vomitting.  She has warned me to *never* use Diamond.
You can try it if you like; I know I won't.

DISCLAIMER:  I have had no direct experience with the product and my evaluation
is based on a friend's recommendation.   

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From: massey@cwis.unomaha.edu (Dana Massey)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate owners
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:17:03 GMT

My 8 yr old brother was attacked by a dobe.  the owners were 
trying to socialize it by taking the 3-legged dog around after
being hit by a car it decided it didn't like people
so they'd decided to force the issue.  WRONG.
He leaned over 6' from the dog to pick up a toy (the brother's
toy not the dobe's) and the dobe lunged and bit him in the
eye....
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From: megm@sco.COM (Meg McRoberts)
Subject: Growth disorders in giant breeds
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 04:29:11 GMT


tonight's Pet Pourri included a segment about
growth disorders in large and giant breeds.
it was a rerun, but if you haven't seen it
you might find it interesting.  they show the
same segment Thursdays from 6:30-7:00, on the
San Jose PBS station (KTEH, Channel 54).
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From: massey@cwis.unomaha.edu (Dana Massey)
Subject: Re: Those pesky anal sacks
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:09:31 GMT

DITTO to everything you said for my 2 1/2 yr old weimaraner male.
At first we went to the vet every 6 months for the JOB to be done
now it is every 2 weeks at $10 to express the anal sacks.

The surgery is something I want to put off...apparently there
can be complications with retaining control of the muscle that
must be cut to access the sacs...and loss of control of the
stool would be really devastating to our dog.

Surely there is SOMETHING we aren't doing that someone knows
about....

Dana
From: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Hip Dyplasia
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:02:27 GMT
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH

<1992Sep9.082525.25934@hemlock.cray.com>
Reply-To: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH
Keywords: 

In article <1992Sep9.082525.25934@hemlock.cray.com> djg@cray.com (Dennis
Guldan) writes:
>........(how to get an OFA number deleted)
>   Actual I would not worry too much about your Husky. The breed has
>very low incidence of Hip Dysplasia ony 2.9%. Versus St Bernards at 47.4%,
>Newfoundlands at 31.9%, English Setters at 25.8%, Golden Retrievers at
>22.9%, Labs at 14.3%. Only Sheepdogs & Borzois have a lower incidence.


True, but remember that the OFA radiologists only see x-rays that the owner
and his vet believe will PASS the OFA screen. Thus, the incidence percentages
listed above  are not true indicators of the incidence of hip dysplasia in a
given breed. That is, one cannot say that 31.9% of all Newfoundlands in the US
and Canada have hip dysplasia. Similiarly, that only 14.3% of all Labs
evidence signs of hip dysplasia. Obviously, the OFA has no idea how many xrays
that show clear signs of hip dysplasia are NOT sent to the OFA for evaluation.
Personally, I only send in xrays that I believe will clear. Why spend the
money otherwise?

On a related note, please be aware that, in Newfs anyway, radiographs rejected
as borderline or mildly dysplatic have been resubmitted at a later time and
CLEARED by the OFA radiologists. Quite a bit of subjective interpretation 
going on there. 
*****************************
Marget Johnson, Windwagon Newfoundlands, Tipp City OH

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From: Barbara S Withem <bwithem@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: TEST
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:02:04 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

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From: us267384@mmm.serc.3m.com (Steven M. Anastasi)
Subject: Re: RE: Saying Goodbye to an Old Friend
Organization: 3M - St. Paul, MN  55144-1000 US
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 15:26:47 GMT

From article <9SEP92.17193198@wums.wustl.edu>, by trimpe_b@wums.wustl.edu:
> In a previous article, hobright@src.honeywell.com (Lesa Hobright Turner) wrote:
>> 
>>>>for all of you out there with healthy pets....take alot of pictures.
>> 
>>I'm overly guilty of taking pictures of my Keeshond.  I sat down at a family
>>get together with three rolls of newly developed film....all of my dog. :)  
>>The family wasn't impressed ;-).
> 
> 	I can top that... I got so annoyed one x-mas looking at all the
> kiddie pictures of 'aquaintances'- most of whom had the children with
> someone other than their current spouse that I had WALLETS made of our
> labrador.  My husband took a great picture of him in the woods-
> it looks like a studio picture with a fake background(honest).  Anyway
> I had cheapy wallets made and yes I carry one and send them to anyone
> I think might get a kick out of it (ie a usmail penpal or another
> labrador fanatic).  Anyway call me nuts but now I can pass a 
> picture around too.
> 	OH Has anyone out there had a portrait taken with their dog?  I
> don't mean the Santa and doggie picture but a real studio-serious picture.
> A friend of mine did once-I thought it was sorta weird at the time but I'm
> considering it for our first professional portrait. Oh yea- I mean dogs
> that are pets only- not the show dogs etc where I can see a need.
> Beverly
> Wash Univ. Med School, St. Louis, MO

Yes, my wife had a studio picture taken of our golden retriever - it
sits on my desk.  One is of her alone and another is of my wife and
Saavik.  She also had a 8x10 of just the head and neck made and
framed, and gave it to me for Christmas.

At first, I too thought it a bit strange - but the photo is beautiful.
She was one year old at the time and my wife had her coat brushed
out just right.  The photographer really did a good job of capturing
color and texture.  He positioned her tail, played a slide whistle to
get her ears to perk, etc.

The studio asked that a handler accompany the photoees.  My wife brought
a friend but it wasn't necessary.  She used sit stays and down stays to
keep the dog in position.  For the bust picture, the photographer had
to get about 3 feet away with the camera.  He said that some dogs don't
go for it but Saavik was good.

I've had numerous (good) comments about the picture and if people do think it
strange, they don't say anything.

One more note:  We recently attended our 10 year high school reunion.
We have no kids and I was SURE that everyone there would have oodles
of pictures of theirs.  I came equiped with two wallet size pictures of
Saavik and when others started in on the "look at her holding teddy,
this is her at the lake, here she is with Grandma", I whipped out a
picture of my "little girl" and did the same.  Some thought it humerous,
others thought me strange - which is OK.

By the way, my wife was careful to use a studio that specialized in pet
photography.  

-- 
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smanastasi@mmm.com
St. Paul, Minnesota
From: srlee@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen R Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Plastic Containers
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:52:10 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory

In article <15117@mindlink.bc.ca> Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop) writes:
>I seem to remember hearing once that it is not a good idea to store dog food in
>a plastic garbage pail, but rather to use a metal one. Does anybody know if
>there is truth in this and if so, why? I just bought myself a nifty plastic
>pail, so I hope I can use it...what if I line it with a plastic garbage bag?
>
>Thanks!
>
>\/alaria
>
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I store my dry dog food in large plastic containers and have never heard
that it is a bad idea.  It is a bad idea, however, to store them in non-sealing
containers.  Some dry food will spoil, others will just dry out.  Other than
that, I know of nothing wrong with using plastic.


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From: massey@cwis.unomaha.edu (Dana Massey)
Subject: Re: Upset digestive tract (was: IAMS dog food)
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:12:50 GMT

Another quick note...I put the cooked hamburger into a strainer and
run hot water over it to get AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE of the fat washed
off of the meat.  Don't forget if you withhold food for 24 hours
DO NOT WITH HOLD WATER unless specifically told to do so by the
vet (and I can't imagine why they'd say no water....unless before
surgery).
Dana 
massey@cwis.unomaha.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:47:27 EDT
From: patty mulkeen <NAT@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Shutterbugs

     I have a question for all the folks who take lots of pictures
of their dogs.  How do you get the dog to look happy for the
camera?  When I take pictures of my lab/golden mix, he gets a very
sad look on his face and his tail  droops as soon as I look through
the camera.  It's pretty pitiful, certainly not what I want to capture
on film!  Any hints would be appreciated (posted or e-mailed, I check
this newsgroup pretty frequently).  Thanks!
                                                   Patty Mulkeen
                                                   nat@psuvm.psu.edu


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From: schalene@sequent.com (Schalene Dagutis)
Subject: Re: Pig Ears/Double Good Citizen/Whiz kid Camp
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 17:27:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.163411.23925@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> goc@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (joy.a.gochman) writes:
>
>Dog Whiz Kid Camp
>In October i will be going to the Whiz Kid camp held in Penn.
>Will any other netters be there?

Please tell me more about the camp or how I can find out more
information.  Thanks

schalene

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From: scott@borg.wyle.ingr.com (scott@borg.wyle.ingr.com)
Subject: I'M A DAD AGAIN!!
Reply-To: scott@borg.wyle.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp., Huntsville, Alabama
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:37:12 GMT

I've been away for a while, but I wanted to tell you all the
great news!  I'm a dad again!!  I've adopted two wonderful
little Rottmonsters, brothers, from a solid breeder I believe.
I have named them Moses and Elijah (Mo & Eli for short).  They
are only 12 weeks this Thursday and the vet checked them out
as GREAT!

I've been having lots of fun and so have the boys.  I wanted
to share my good news and ask a question or two.  Here goes:

1.) I worry about spending more time on Eli than Mo.  Mo is
    more of a loner.  He'd rather be sniffing grass in the
    far corner of the yard than in my lap.  Eli would rather
    be in my lap than breathe.  How do I balance between them?

2.) Any great suggestions for teaching two pups at once?  They
    seem to distract eachother somewhat during my training 
    sessions.  All advice solicited.

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From: krattige@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kim Krattiger)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:54:43 GMT
Subject: Re: Protective Akitas
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs


/ hpcc01:rec.pets.dogs / kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu /  7:11 am  Sep  2, 1992 /

>My girlfriend has a year and a half old Akita female.  The dog is very friendly
>but always seems to bark at anyone that isn't immediate family until they
>walk up close enough for the dog to sniff them.  I was talking with a guy
>who used to breed Akitas and he said they are very protective dogs.  
>My question is, will this dog ever stop barking at me when I come over?
>Also, if they are very protective, when it becomes a full adult, will it
>want to attack me instead of just barking at me?  The guy who bred them said
>you have to be carefull once they are about 2-3 years old (that's when they
>are very protective.)
> - Thanks in advance
> - Kirk
----------

I think a large part of how the dog continues to react depends on how the
owners respond.  A friend's boyfriend had an Akita which he bred.  My friend
took one male puppy and I took a female.  Mary's dog was kept with her 
boyfriend and the puppy's mother as Mary was still living at home with her
folks.  As the 2 dogs grew up, Mary's dog, Sam, was 'overly' protective of 
his territory and of Mary.  I think Mary's boyfriend may have encouraged
this behavior to a point.  Anyway, her dog got so protective that it was
agressive and bit a neighbor.  The neighbor sued them, and they had to
have the dog destroyed.

On the other hand, my Akita, Kahlua, was always considered a pet, and I would
never encourage her to bark or be agressive.  She is about the sweetest
dog and wouldn't hurt anyone, unless....

I believe that Kahlua would protect me if I were ever really threatened.
I had a neighbor I was dealing with in putting up a new fence, since our
properties were back to back.  The guy really made me uncomfortable, although
I couldn't pinpoint anything in particular.  One day he came to the door
to tell me something and Kahlua went crazy barking at him.  I could not get
her to stop for the life of me.  She had never reacted that way before and
hasn't since.  I think she sensed my unease and was reacting accordingly.

If your girlfriend does not encourage her dog to bark when you come over
he may get over that.  Some people do not outwardly train their dogs to be
agressive, but even just saying 'good boy' and patting when he barks at
someone, is encouraging him to keep doing it.  I don't mean to imply that
there should be any punishment for barking, because that could have adverse
effects.  Just a simple 'no' or 'stop that', nothing harsh.  The dog will
probably 'mellow out' if not encouraged to be agressive.

These are just my opinions and experiences.  I am by no means an expert in
the field.  But when I saw the difference between my dog & Mary's, both from
the same litter, I have to believe a lot of it is environment & owner's.
That's not to say breed & breeding have nothing to do with it.

sorry this got so long, I kinda rambled on there!
Kim K

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