HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cobarruvias@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Ag Jokes (Another one!)
Date: 24 Jul 1992 14:17:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA/JSC

In article <1992Jul24.054250.21643@tamsun.tamu.edu> garys@cs.tamu.edu 

There was this Aggie who graduated with a degree in Petroleum Engineering. Upon
graduation, he was employed by the Shiek of Kuwait to help him locate oil. 

It seemed that every place the Aggie would point to would produce a free
flowing oil well. This made the Shiek very happy, as well as very rich.
Each year the Aggie would survey and find more and more oil for the Shiek.

After a few years, the Shiek wanted to do something special for the Aggie in
appreciation of his newfound wealth. The Shiek offered money, land, women, and
wine, yet the Aggie was content with what he already had. So the Shiek asked
the Aggie if he could give him something that he missed as a child, or
something that would represent his childhood. After some thought the Aggie
asked for a Mickey Mouse Outfit.

So the shiek bought him the university of texas in austin.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: ND stops series w/Miami (was Re: Wash-ND)
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 22:55:02 GMT

In article <63990@hydra.gatech.EDU> mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
>reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) wrote:
>}
>}Highly unlikely.  With Penn St. committed to the Blockbuster Bowl this
>}year, and tied up in Big 10 bowls in future years, the only likely
>}scenario is if both Penn St. and Notre Dame have very bad years, ending
>}up something like 7-4 each ...
>
>Well if Notre Dame ends up with a "very bad year" and is 7-4, they
>still get to go to the Bowl Alliance.  Remember how they pulled their
>bully tactics on the bowls when the thing was being negotiated, and
>insisted they be let in with only 7 wins?

Oh, yes.  Make that "a very, very bad year".  Which they have had, in
recent memory.

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@ashby.cs.ucla.edu

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: whn6479@rigel.tamu.edu (I'm Will Newnum. Who the Hell are you?)
Subject: Home Colors
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:09:00 GMT

I didn't know of any NCAA rule about home colors, but Texas Tech wore white in
Lubbock when A&M played them last fall. 
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From: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Subject: Re: On-Field College Mascots
Reply-To: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:37:28 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.190314.14964@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> wilbanks@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Dylan Wilbanks) writes:
>tannerg@milton.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:
>
>>Top Ten Coolest :
>>2. Colorado : Ralphie the Buffalo -- 'nuff said.
>
>Don't forget Chip, the buffalo that skateboards around the concrete 
>"half-pipe" of the south endzone. The students love him.

    I've certainly noticed that there is no shortage of Buffalo
chips flying around the Buffs and their faithful.

--
Guy McConnell
"A little revolution now and then is a healthy thing, don't you think?"
From: daytrpr@max.u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: <None>
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:49:35 GMT



In article <1992Jul28.202143.28195@colorado.edu>, manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Njan) writes:
> In article <1992Jul28.123608.1@max.u.washington.edu> daytrpr@max.u.washington.edu writes:
>>
>>
>>OK, OK...now that all of the preseason football magazines are out, makin'
>>
>>qqqqq
> 
> Is this some sort of code or what?
> 
> Njan



SORRY, SORRY.....Damn editor, you know.   :)

Daytrpr
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn)
Subject: Re: I-AA followers in rsfc
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 23:28:39 GMT

In article <2833@wrdis01.af.mil> demarsee@wrdis01.af.mil (Darryl Marsee) writes
:
>}The SoCon is a GREAT League.  Watching two of the upper division teams play i
s
>}very entertaining, and well worth the cost of admission--which, BTW, is only
a
>}fraction of what you would pay to PARK at a lot of IA stadiums.
>
>I think I-AA football is vastly underrated as an entertainment value.
>While I grew up a fan of big-time I-A football (Michigan for my elementary
>days, Tennessee for middle and high school), my only attendance of live
>college football until I myself went to college were numerous games at
>my hometown college, Div I-AA Tennessee Tech.  They were a blast ...
>you could arrive 5 minutes before gametime and park right next to the
>stadium (just don't park too close to the South endzone ... your
>windshield might get busted by a PAT kick!), go to the game for a couple
>of bucks (I think it's up to $4 now, all general admission), grab a
>couple of hotdogs and a coke (no beer) for a buck, watch the Golden Eagle
>mascot ride around on his minibike (and do a few jumps over some brave
>cheerleaders), and see some good solid football.  

Most I-AA stadiums have a lot of atmosphere.  They are small and usually fans
get to sit really close to the action, with a great view of what's going on.
If you are really close, referee baiting or harrassing the opposing team is
pretty easy--if you yell, they will hear you.  How do I know? Sometimes they
yell back:-).

>Now that I'm down here
>in Middle Georgia, I'll have to go check out some games at Georgia
>Southern (as well as up at dear old alma mater Georgia Tech).  It'll be
>great to see GSU play the Southern Conference teams ... especially since
>this year's schedule is soooo pathetic ... what happened?  Nobody wants
>to play them anymore?  GSU plays one I-A team (@Georgia ... if there was
>ever a time for them to finally beat a I-A team ...), five I-AA teams
>(Florida A&M, @Furman, James Madison, Middle Tennessee State, and
>Youngstown State), and five (!) Division II teams (Valdosta State,
>Savannah State, Jacksonville State, Mississippi College, and Troy
>State).  Does anyone know why so many Div II teams?

Well, I think that Valdosta and Savannah st. are old rivals (the Savannah St.
game is a good one for bench-clearing brawls, from what I have heard).  Troy
St. was supposed to be moving up to 1AA this year--I don't know what happened.
I can't explain the other two--I know they are really good Div. II programs,
though.
>                          ____
>Darryl E. Marsee         |    \   1926 CCSG/SCCI 205 Perry Street
>Control Data Systems     |  *  \  Robins Air Force Base, GA 31098
>demarsee@wrdis01.af.mil  |_____/  demarsee@logdis1.wr.aflc.af.mil
From: archmage@milton.u.washington.edu (Michael Bakkemo)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Michigan RB's Was: Re: Heisman Poll Update
Date: 28 Jul 92 03:53:47 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <BILLMS.92Jul27115254@z.eecs.umich.edu> billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) writes:
>In article <JCHO.92Jul26164254@dante.nmsu.edu> jcho@nmsu.edu (CHO) writes:
>
>   No offense to all the Michiganders (who are Wolverines) but, Elvis
>   (IMHO) is not Heisman material... I say this because, though he is
>   by far more consistent than..say Demetrius Brown (his predecessor),

 glad someone else feels the same way I do.

>   he lacks the mobility...  He's slow to get out of the pocket when he
>   needs to...and in general his performance is dependent on the OL more
>
>Wouldn't this show up in the sack or completion stats?  Completions were very
>high, ints very low, and sacks were low too.  Sure, it would be nice to have
>a 6'5" jet back there who is a great passer.  But I don't think Elvis is a
>water buffalo by any means.

 I think it did show up in the sack and completion stats. Look at the 
Rose Bowl...I'm not trying to rub you're nose in it, but I do think it
indicative...I don't think they tore up a QB like that on any of the other
Pac-10 teams except for Arizona.

[stuff deleted]

>
>   on paper, but when you saw him play...that even great talent like Amp Lee,
>   Edgar Bennett, Mario Bailey, and who knows how many QBs couldn't come 
>   close...
>
>Wait a minute.  We *all know* that Mario was even better than Desmond.  Just
>look at the numbers or ask any washington fan (well, ok, maybe not *all* of
>them feel that way).  Why, the Oilers have said that they were damn glad that
>Desmond was there for the Redskins, since Washington certainly would have
>taken mario if Howard was gone.
>
>Bill

Well, I see no smileys, so I'll infer them. Please do look at the numbers.
I have no problem with Howard winning the Heismann, I also have no problem
saying that Desmond was a better punt and and kickoff returner...Mario
didn't do those things.

I also don't know if Desmond was taken out early in a lot of games like 
Mario was. I do know that he could have had much better stats than he did
if they hadn't done that.

Again, for lack of better instructional evidence, look at the Rose Bowl,
when they "sort of" played head to head. Tell me, who did better?

The problem I think you'll find on the part of DAWG fans, isn't dogmatic
inflexibilty in the Desmond vs Mario debate, it's that lack of anyone 
giving Mario his due.
From: wlamonac@purcell.helios.nd.edu (william lamonaca)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: I do, but do you..
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:52:23 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

In article <1992Jul23.183946.22948@alw.nih.gov> ravi@alw.nih.gov (Ravi Boddapati) writes:
>I hate Notre Dame and its football team!  I was wondering howmany others
>share the same feelings.  Ofcourse, you don't have to have a valid reason
>for hating something or somebody.
>
>So, I have come up with an idea.  Let's make a survey on the net and see
>the general feelings towards Notre Dame.
>
>All you have to do is add your name under the appropriate column below.
>I would be glad to summarize the results, later.
>
>
>I hate Notre Dame				I don't
>*****************			*********************
>Ravi Boddapati - ravi@helix.nih.gov	
>
>
>No flames please.
>
>-- Ravi
>
That's a good idea- lists of things you hate for absolutely no reason.  I've
been inspired to start my own.  Here it is, hope you like it:

I hate Ravi Boddapati                          I don't
*********************                   **********************
Bill

Actually it's because your last name sounds like "Port-a-potty"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: exujeff@exu.ericsson.se (Jeff Thompson)
Subject: Re: ND lovers / haters
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 13:41:59 GMT

} I beleive you did misunderstand, it's not a black-catholic issue that I 
was intending to address.  My question is what is it that NOTRE DAME or SMU 
or TCU or BYU place in their curriculum that has to do with their religious 
beleifs?  I'm know there are black Catholics and chinese Mormons.  If these 
schools do place their religious beleifs intertwind with their courses, 
wouldn't a student attending one of these Universitys take that into 
consideration before attending?  I probably am way off the mark, especially 
on the Notre Dame issue, seeing as they do graduate all their football 
players. Which I guess is the real question.
I am sorry for offending you.
}jeff






In article <1992Jul25.034619.1684@ncsu.edu> jvbutera@grad00.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera) writes:
>Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
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>From: jvbutera@grad00.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera)
>Subject: Re: ND lovers / haters
>Message-ID: <1992Jul25.034619.1684@ncsu.edu>
>Sender: news@ncsu.edu (USENET News System)
>Organization: NCSU Mathematics Dept.
>References: <1992Jul22.191944.3650@makesys.com> <1992Jul24.171952.9412@news.nd. <1992Jul24.210704.2914@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
>Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 03:46:19 GMT
>Lines: 23

>In article <1992Jul24.210704.2914@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming) writes:
>>Jeff Thompson writes:
>>
>>>ND is indeed a FFF which is a DAME shame since it is a CATHOLIC SCHOOL.
>>>Please do not take this as a racial view but how does someone name ISHMAIL
>>>(or something like that) end up at a CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY?  Not to mention
>>>all the black atheletes that go there?  I'm not saying that there is
>>>anything wrong with black Catholics, but shouldn't you be Catholic, or at
>>>least be in the true process of converting to Catholicism?
>>

>To an ignorant Jeff Thompson:

>NO, you need not be a Catholic or be converting to attend a Catholic
>College or University.  I find your veiws here quite narrowminded....
>Is your question supposed to imply there are absolutely no black
>Catholics in America?  I'm not trying to start a war, but this is 
>offensive.....
>-- 
>Jeff Butera <> Math Grad Student, N.C. State <> jvbutera@math.ncsu.edu

>DISCLAIMER: My views are my own and I'll be a big N.C.State Wolfpack 
>fan as soon as hell freezes over.  Until then... Go Clemson Tigers! 
============================================================================
Jeff Thompson M/S B-07     || DAoubULLS                 || YOU CAN'T HEAR
Ericsson Network Systems   || TWIN for the TWINS in '92 ||    IF YOUR
P.O. BOX 833875            || PURPLE IS IN              ||    LIPS ARE
Richardson, TX. 75083-3875 || WOLVES ARE CHRISTIANs TOO ||     MOVING
============================================================================
From: jay@astro.as.utexas.edu (Jay Boisseau)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Shea Morenz: Longhorn or Blue Jay?
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:26:58 GMT
Organization: McDonald Observatory, University of Texas @ Austin

In article <76306@ut-emx.uucp> jay@astro.as.utexas.edu (Jay Boisseau) writes:
>
>Does anybody know whether Shea Morenz has decided to play football (and
>baseball) at UT or play baseball for the Blue Jays? 
>[stuff deleted]
>
>Jay Boisseau

It seems as if Shea's father read my post. He He just announced
yesterday taht he is going to encourage his son to go to UT and play
football ONLY.  He said that the Blue Jays aren't coughing up enough
money after two rounds of negotiations. This pleases Mackovic, but
Coach Gustafson (the UT baseball coach) said he hopes Shea will play
baseball at UT, too.

I have this very uneasy feeling, however, that this is just a
bargaining maneuver by She's father, as was the fax to the ML baseball
teams. I won't believe that he's coming to UT until the day he enrolls
(at which time the Blue Jays _can't_ do anything).

Jay Boisseau
From: rbutera@is.rice.edu (Rob Butera)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ND lovers / haters
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:46:03 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Rice University

In article <exujeff.15.712006354@exu.ericsson.se>, exujeff@exu.ericsson.se (Jeff Thompson) writes:
ificantly higher than the NCAA's so a player may be allowed

|> all the black atheletes that go there?  I'm not saying that there is 
|> anything wrong with black Catholics, but shouldn't you be Catholic, or at 
|> least be in the true process of converting to Catholicism?
|> just a thought
|>  
|> ============================================================================
|> Jeff Thompson M/S B-07     || DAoubULLS                 || YOU CAN'T HEAR
|> Ericsson Network Systems   || TWIN for the TWINS in '92 ||    IF YOUR
|> P.O. BOX 833875            || PURPLE IS IN              ||    LIPS ARE
|> Richardson, TX. 75083-3875 || WOLVES ARE CHRISTIANs TOO ||     MOVING
|> ============================================================================

Bzzzzt.  Wrong - most church related schools have education as a primary
mission, regardless of background.  Look at some of the "basketball factories"
in NYC.  Do I have to be Methodist to play at Duke or Syracuse?  Baptist to
play football at Furman or Baylor?  The list could go on and on ....

However, I'm willing to bet that if you look at the religious demographics
of Notre Dame's athletes, the % that are Catholic is far lower than that of
of student body in general ....

-- 
Rob Butera - ECE grad student   Rice University, Houston, TX   rbutera@rice.edu

"Giving new life to the firm's 15 year old VMS operating system ..."
                               - IEEE Spectrum on the DEC Alpha
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: ND lovers / haters
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 16:18:58 GMT

In article <63917@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccastmm@prism.gatech.EDU (Mike Marler) writes:
>Oh, and by the way.  How many of you ND fans didn't think Devine(sp)
>was a jerk?

I was at Notre Dame during Devine's years there.  I didn't think he was
a jerk.  He always sounded like an idiot when he spoke at pep rallies
and on TV, but I had no reason to think he was a jerk.  I was sorry when
they didn't renew his contract.

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@ashby.cs.ucla.edu
From: rszczerb@monet.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Beat by Notre Dame (and not on the field)
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:19:50 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

In article <63989@hydra.gatech.EDU> mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
>Yes, poor Qadry Ismail, having to carry that entire Syracuse team on
>his back, touching the ball probably 10 times a game if he's lucky.
>
>My point has been quickly validated:  Notre Dame fans claim that 
>Rocket Ismail was the greatest player who ever lived and deserved
>the Heisman more than anyone in history, and yet a virtual clone who
>plays for someone besides Notre Dame and has better stats is basically
>not even worth talking about as a Heisman candidate.
>
First of all, I don't hear anyone saying that Rocket was the
greatest player that ever lived. I am just saying that I 
believe Rocket was the best palyer in college football the
year he won the Heisman. As for his brother, Quadry, as far as
I've heard he is a legitimate contender (though maybe not
a frontrunner) for the  Heisman
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: SCHMIDT@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jon Schmidt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: The Deserving Heisman?
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:41:10 GMT
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering

In article <2835@wrdis01.af.mil>
demarsee@wrdis01.af.mil (Darryl Marsee) writes:
>
>>Is it true that Jim Brown never won the Heisman while at Syracuse?
>
>True.
>
>>If so, does anyone know his stats and those of the actual Heisman winner?
>
>I don't have the stats handy (anyone?), but wasn't Jim Brown's senior
>year the year that Paul Hornung won the Heisman while leading Notre
>Dame to a 2-9 record?
>
>Darryl E. Marsee
 
Jim Brown (6-2, 212), HB, Syracuse, 1956 (5th in Heisman voting)
                                           TOTAL
TEAM      RUSHING         PASSING         OFFENSE      RECEIVING
W L T   CAR YDS AVG    ATT CMP YDS TD    PLAYS YDS   NO YDS TD  AVG
7 1 0   158 986 6.2*    4   3   76  1     162 1062    5  56  1 11.2
 
          PUNT     K.O.
 INT.    RETURN   RETURN    SCORING
NO YDS   NO YDS   NO YDS   TD XP PTS
 3  72    4  15    7 169   14 22 106
 
* This figure led the nation.
 
 
Paul Hornung (6-2, 205), QB, Notre Dame, 1956 (Heisman winner)
                                                     TOTAL
TEAM      RUSHING             PASSING               OFFENSE
W L T   CAR YDS AVG    ATT CMP INT  PCT YDS TD   PLAYS YDS TDR
2 8 0    94 420 4.5    111  59  13 .532 917  3    205 1337  10
 
                               PUNT     K.O.
RECEIVING   INT.    PUNTING   RETURN   RETURN     SCORING
 NO YDS    NO YDS   NO  AVG   NO YDS   NO YDS   TD XP FG PTS
  3  26     2  59   31 37.6    4  63   16 496    7 14  0  56
 
 
Note that John Brodie, Stanford, led the nation in nearly every passsing
category in 1956 and finished 7th in the Heisman voting
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kennedy@inter-tel.com (Matt Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Rutgers Stadium (was Re: LIST: IA Football Stadiums (1 of 2))
Organization: Inter-Tel, Inc. (Chandler, AZ)
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:53:30 GMT

In <1992Jul16.181315.8608@u.washington.edu> crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:

>I recall that the only place in the USA where college football outdraws
>pro football (in an area with both teams) is here in Seattle.  The Seahawks
>sell out the Kingdome (7-8 year wait for tickets), but the fans still fill
>out Husky stadium which seats 10,000 more people.  Perhaps, since the 
>northeastern US is so full of pro teams, nobody pays much attention to
>college games.

That must be an old stat from before the Cardinals moved to
Phoenix.  The Sun Devils outdraw the Cards by a long shot.

========================================
Matthew S. Kennedy
kennedy%intertel.uucp@asuvax.eas.asu.edu
========================================
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: wilbanks@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Dylan Wilbanks)
Subject: Re: On-Field College Mascots
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:03:14 GMT

tannerg@milton.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:

>Top Ten Coolest :
>2. Colorado : Ralphie the Buffalo -- 'nuff said.

Don't forget Chip, the buffalo that skateboards around the concrete 
"half-pipe" of the south endzone. The students love him.
>GT
-- 
Dylan Wilbanks, Classics major, AND NOW Environmental Conservation!
"Look! An X-man movie's coming out!"          |Currently at:
c.10 year old in a Tulsa movie theater,       |Box 1143
looking at a poster for _Malcolm X_           |Boulder, CO 80306
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: ND stops series w/Miami (was Re: Wash-ND)
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 16:13:26 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.145028.6475@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com (Robert Day                   ) writes:
>
>    1) ND did not "terminate" the series.  The contract was up, and
>        they simply did not renew it.  I believe that the
>        decision to not renew the series was a mutual decision by 
>        both ADs.

I hadn't heard that Miami's AD was in favor of ending the series.  Ever
since the end of the series came, Miami has made lots of noise about
wanting to continue it or reschedule it.  I think it highly likely that
Miami would have made room on their schedule after Penn State dropped
ND, had ND expressed an interest.  At least, they made noise about not
being offered the slot, since they seemed to think that ND had made a
commitment to return Miami to ND's schedule at the first possible
opportunity.  ND has given the impression that this "commitment" exists
only in the minds of Miami's people.  I suspect that Notre Dame's schedulers
actually said something vague about trying to fit Miami in some time in 
the future.

>
>    2) ND added FSU to the schedule because Penn State dropped ND - not
>        the other way around!  I'm also sad to see the Penn St. 
>        series end, hopefully they can meet in a bowl game soon.

Highly unlikely.  With Penn St. committed to the Blockbuster Bowl this
year, and tied up in Big 10 bowls in future years, the only likely
scenario is if both Penn St. and Notre Dame have very bad years, ending
up something like 7-4 each, with lots of Big 10 teams ahead of Penn St.
Hoping that they meet in a bowl soon is equivalent to wishing bad years
on both of them.  Which means, I guess, that lots of folks are hoping for
a Notre Dame/Penn State bowl game.

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@ashby.cs.ucla.edu