Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 11 Nov 1992 14:42:12 CST
From: <U56503@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: KHARE
 <92308.150547U56503@uicvm.uic.edu> <ogorman.720998794@unix1.tcd.ie>
 <92311.223338U56503@uicvm.uic.edu> <wolffrnd.721484315@starburst.umd.edu>

In article <wolffrnd.721484315@starburst.umd.edu>, wolffrnd@starburst.umd.edu
(The Wolf Friend) says:

>*deliberately* inflammatory--such as your "fear of change" post--is often
>considered to be bad form.  Someone who posted "I hate cats" to rec.pets.cats

I never posted *I hate a.s.h.*

I agree that some people on a.s.h. will be very opposed to any suggestions
that they need to change.  That's their right to stay the same.

>it ended.  The number of flames you get here are *NOTHING* compared to what

I am not concerned about the number of flames or lack of them.
Lots of other people seem to be though.  But, if flamed I reserve the
right to respond.

>you have to say?  Simply by letting people know that you are there, that
>gives them the freedom to then come to *you* if they wish, and discuss their
>problems in private.

I have no interest in getting into "private counseling" on this group.
My apparent need, though I am currently re-evaluating the worth of it,
is to provide an alternate view to the dominate view of Doom/negativity
I have seen on this group for years.  People seem to love to flame here
because it seems to fit their mood anyway.  Perhaps it is not possible
for *some* ASHers to see another way, and I am considering now whether this
is a hopeless situation, as it certainly seems to be to me now.

>Your post about how you personally attempt to relieve stress in your own life
>seemed useful, informative and friendly.  Your questions about dealing with
>anger spawned an interesting discussion as well.  Too bad you don't post
>more things like that, instead...

I do until I get flamed; when flamed I will answer though.

>are therefore trying to exhert control as well?  Where does it all end?

It ends now.

>I *DO* care whether you keep flaming other people and mocking them.

Do you care about the others on this group who love to flame at the
drop of a hat?

Also, you can stop the flaming yourself.

>Unfortunately, although I'll be able to read your response, my ability to
>reply will be *extremely* limited, due to a problem I'm currently having with

Sorry to hear this.  Hope your hands are better.

>my hands.  And at any rate, I have no wish to get into a protracted flame war.

I'm not going to respond to any more flames on this topic either.
I also hope that those responsible for the current flames rising to
begin with will reconsider their "dry fuck" approach to literary discourse.

>But regardless of whether or not you agree with anything I say, I hope you
>will at least try to *truly* think about it a little.  And if afterwards you

I will.
Thanks for the thoughtful sections of your post.

Brady

P.S.  UIC teams are called "The Chicago Flames" after the Chicago Fire.
It is the mascot name.  When I logon here, the logon screen has a giant
flame on it, flickering away.  In addition, having been through a lot of
fire stuff here, we Chicagoans are somewhat flame resistant now.  ;))
But I guess fire will always be a part of our identity.

=-=-=-=-Brady Woodward PhD=-=U56503@UICVM=-=u56503@uicvm.uic.edu=-=-=-=-=
  SATAN to NEW-COMER: The trouble with you Chicago people is that you
  think that you are the best people down here, whereas you are merely
  the most mumerous. --Mark Twain  (All other thoughts are mine alone.)
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