HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rice@ttd.teradyne.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: QUESTION: Modem connected to TTA2:
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:55:16 GMT
Organization: Teradyne Inc., Telecommunications Division

In article <1992Aug15.123230.1810@didymus.rmi.de>, andreas@didymus.rmi.de (Andreas Fassl) writes:
> Hi,
> 
> I've connected to a VS3100 via TTA2: a ZyXEL 1496.
> 
> After typing
> $ SET HOST/DTE/SPEED=9600 TTA2:
> I can now type in
> 
> atz
> OK
> atdt06103....         (DSIN Germany)
> 
> then dial dial dial
> 
> CONNECT 2400  (urgh)
> 
> the DSIN screen is being build up, but no further keyboard input is accepted.
> The same with all other dial-up connections.
> An input of +++ will be accepted, therefor I think it is not the cabling.
> 
> What's wrong?
> 
This sounds like a parity problem. Ensure that the bits/parity on your TTA2
port are correctly set-up (you probably want 8 bit no parity).


-- 
   John Rice        K9IJ     |  "Did I say that ?" I must have, but It was
                             |   MY opinion only, no one else's...Especially
                             |   Not my Employer's....
   rice@ttd.teradyne.com     |   Purveyor of Miracles,Magic and Sleight-of-hand
From: ITB650REID@redgum.qut.edu.au (Egad ! Its a UQ engineer !!!!!!!!!!)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Ftp for vms-vax wanted
Date: 12 Aug 1992 22:58:56 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Could someone please direct me to source for ftp for VMS.

Fodd.

isb202reid@qut.edu.au
n1019031@water.fit.qut.edu.au
From: tihor@acf3.NYU.EDU (Stephen Tihor)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Will lmf kill alpha?
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:04:00 GMT
Organization: New York University


	Will lmf kill alpha?
no.
	Somebody else answered dec had good products an bad products 
yep.
	- unfortunately lmf belonged to the latter.
I disagree.

	My understanding is that VMS and ultrix is not widely used in 
	universities and other research institutions compared to other 
	unix derivations because of the administrative overhead caused 
	by correctly using lmf.
Since I have seen much overhead if one is being honest then means (a)
most universities and research institution are run by crooks too
dishonest to even join the CSLG, or (b) the real problem was a price/perfomance
gap several years back.

	Will this happen to alpha as well?
I doubt it and would be fascinated to see evidence that it will.
From: paulonis@kodak.com (Mike Paulonis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Looking for group editing software
Keywords: software group editing
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:25:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: eastman.3558
Reply-To: paulonis@kodak.com
Followup-To: comp.os.vms
Organization: Eastman Chemical Co., Kingsport, TN

I am looking for some VMS software that would allow a group of users to edit a
file independently without danger of conflicts.  In other words, if two users
changed the same part of the file, the software would recognize this and not
allow the conflicting versions to be saved until the conflict is resolved. I
would expect that such software would be fairly common for group programming. 
Maybe some revision-control software has this capability.

If you know of any such software (public-domain or commercial), please reply
with a short note to paulonis@kodak.com.  Thanks in advance!
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: session@seq.uncwil.edu (Zack C. Sessions)
Subject: Re: VMS-TO-DOS Copy...???
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 00:54:28 GMT

PERKINS@KSUVXA.KENT.EDU (John Emanuel Perkins) writes:

>I seem to recall a recent post about a utility that would copy a VMS file
>to a disk in MS-DOS format on a VAXStation...  Can anyone tell me about it
>and where I might find a copy?  I have a situation here where a person with
>a VAXStation (DECStation?) is not on the network and needs this ability so
>he can transfer files between different systems (VMS to Unix where the Unix
>system has the ability to read DOS diskettes).

>Thank in advance!

The program is called PCX, and is available from most of the standard VMS
FTP sites. I'm sure someone will let you know where they are, I don't thave
them handy but if no one responds, let me know and I'll look 'em up for
you if you don't have them.

I have used it on a VAXstation 3100. It is my impression that it is a
VMS only product (of course, I could be wrong!), and if so will not run
on a DECstation, as it runs Ultrix.


-- 
Zack Sessions
sessions@seq.uncwil.edu
University of North Carolina at Wilmington
"Good health is merely the slowest form of dying."
Xref: sparky comp.os.vms:13848 vmsnet.misc:732
From: Mark.Berryman@Mvb.Saic.Com (MUMPS Wizard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,vmsnet.misc
Subject: Moving from Word-11 to Word Perfect
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:34:54 GMT
Organization: Science Applications Int'l, Corp. - Computer systems operation

There is a group here that has a bunch of Word-11 documents that they want
converted to Word Perfect.  They have a tool that will convert just the text
but are looking for something that can also convert at least the more common
formatting commands as well.  Public domain or commercial is fine.
 
Anyone got any ideas?
 
Mark Berryman
Mark.Berryman@Mvb.Saic.Com
From: harvey@indyvax.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: Undocumented DCL feature
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:33:26 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

In article <9208111812.AA04482@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, DESMITH_N@COLLOQUIUM.CO.UK (Nick de Smith) writes:
> Maybe I didn't make myself clear, but I was refering to a "feature" of F$LENGTH,
> nothing else. Most people didn't even read what I wrote before sending long
> details about F$TYPE and strings - not what I was trying to point out at all!
> I'm more than well aware that F$TYPE(100) and F$TYPE("100") are both STRING, it
> was F$LENGTH returning the number of digits in the integer that interested me.
>
> Sigh.
>
> Nick
>

This behavior follows from the type-conversion rules of DCL.  F$LENGTH is
documented as taking a string for an argument.  Any integer arguments are
converted to strings before being passed to F$LENGTH.  The length of such
a string is the number of digits in the number.  There's even a little
table of examples in section 6.4.2 of the DCL Concepts manual.  So (IMHO)
it really isn't an undocumented feature.

One lexical function that doesn't automatically type-convert all of it's
arguments is F$FAO...
--
James Harvey    IUPUI OIT Technical Support/Networks
harvey@iupui.edu  uucp: iugate!harvey  bitnet: harvey@indyvax
Xref: sparky comp.os.vms:13879 vmsnet.sources.d:545
From: goathunter@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,vmsnet.sources.d
Subject: Re: VMS version of Unix TAR
Date: 20 Aug 92 06:37:07 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Aug19.162835.9940@ryn.mro4.dec.com>, snyder@ricks.enet.dec.com (Wilson Snyder) writes:
> 
> Does anyone have a version of TAR running for VMS (5.5)?  I tried the GNU Tar
> distribution and got rid of most of the errors, but got stopped at:
> 
[...]
> Since there is no such <ndir> file, or anything like it.  Even with this fixed,
> I am willing to bet that GNU tar would still have problems as it isn't intended
> for VMS.
> 
> SO, does anyone have source/exec for a version of tar?
> 
You can get VMSTAR, currently being maintained by Alain Fauconnet, via
anonymous ftp from ftp.spc.edu; you'll need:

	[.MACRO32]LZDCMP.EXE
	[.MACRO32.SAVESETS]VMSTAR.BCK_Z

You can also get it via e-mail by sending the following commands in
the body of a mail message to FILESERV@WKUVX1.BITNET:

SEND VMSTAR
SEND FILESERV_TOOLS

Sources, objects, and a VMS v5.5 .EXE file are provided in both
distributions.

Hunter
------
Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University
goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET, 502-745-5251
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Undocumented DCL feature
From: don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes)
Date: 14 Aug 92 23:44:04 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Wolery

vaxs09@v7.vitro.com writes:
> In article <7222224@zl2tnm.gen.nz>, don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes) writes:
> > Of course Real DCL hackers use f$fao for everything, eg:
> > 		$ if f$fao("!SL", symb) .eq. symb
> > 		$ then	write SYS$OUTPUT "symb is Integer"
> > 		$ else	write SYS$OUTPUT "symb is String"
> > 		$ endif
> 
> Nice try and one of the first things I thought of, but just to be picky...
> 
> $ symb = "2147403648"	! So that descriptor address = string value

Yes, I realised that flaw, but decided to ignore it.  8-)

The (symb + "X") .eq. symb test is the "correct" one.

--
Don Stokes, ZL2TNM (DS555)                        don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (home)
Network Manager, Computing Services Centre            don@vuw.ac.nz (work)
Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand              +64-4-495-5052
From: gezelter@rlgsc.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: VMS mail questions
Date: 22 Aug 92 04:43:25 GMT
Organization: Robert Gezelter Software Consultant, Flushing, NY

In article <BtCCpw.M48@world.std.com>, azog@world.std.com (Azog Thoth) writes:
> Ive been working with some people who want to get our VAX on the Internet,
> and among all the questions, there was one that I had no clue about.
> 
> Can VMS mail deal with Internet style addressing? I know there are VAXen
> on the net, that run VMS, but am wondering how its done.
> 
> Thanx
> 
> -- 
> Billy D'augustine
> azog@world.std.com
> 
> "Obliteration of mankind. Under a pale grey sky. We shall arise!"
-- 
Billy,
 
There are a variety of ways to get a VMS system onto the 
Internet. However, the exact method to be used depends upon the 
functionality and economics (size of your budget).
 
At the most inexpensive end, the DECUS UUCP package permits you 
to set up a periodic connection to a "mail-exchanger", an 
internet node which will act as a mail drop for your facility. 
This arrangement is quite common. Several firms provide this 
functionality on a commercial basis (the fees are not too 
expensive).
 
If you have a bigger budget and need more functionality/performance, 
you can license one of the TCP/IP packages and get a leased 
connection into one of the regional networks. While this gets you 
a lot of functionality, it also tends to cost a lot of cash. 
 
It is not clear from your post exactly what you would like to do. 
If you want to give me a call, I will be happy to spend a couple 
of minutes discussing the issues.
 
- Bob
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Robert "Bob" Gezelter                       E-Mail:  gezelter@rlgsc.com  |
| Robert Gezelter Software Consultant         Voice:   +1 718 463 1079     |
| 35-20 167th Street, Suite 215               Fax:       (on Request)      |
| Flushing, New York  11358-1731                                           |
| United States of America                                                 |
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: PARMALEE001@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU (Rich Parmalee)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: File Expiration Date
Date: 16 Aug 92 14:32:56 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

What is the file expiration date good for. I had thought that the file would be
deleted after it's expiration date, but the file is still there 2 days after it
expired. 

I checked the help on it and it didn't explain it any further. What I am trying
to do is have any file I put in a temporary directory to expire 7 days after it
was created so I don't have hundreds of files that I only wanted to keep for a
few days. I wrote a command procedure to do this, which I could always change
so instead of it setting the expiration date it would delete it 7 days after
it's creation date but that would not be as accurate. 

I do have one problem with the command procedure but I have an idea on how to
get around it. The problem comes up is if the file is created less than 7 days
before the end of the month, I will come up with an invalid date such as : 
35-AUG-1992:10:34:22.93. Does anyone know how to get DCL to add one or more
weeks to a date and have it go to the next month if necessary?


Thank-you for any help,

Rich Parmalee     PARMALEE001@WCSUB.CSTATEU.EDU
From: CMATT@OCVAXA.CC.OBERLIN.EDU (Matt Gilbert)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Seagate WREN 9 SCSI disks
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:36:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


   Has anyone used the Seagate WREN 9 SCSI disks under VMS on a VAXstation?
Does VMS support this drive without a third party driver and can I use it 
as a system disk?

Thanks

Matt Gilbert
cmatt@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
From: csc_richard@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (Richard Huntington)
Subject: Maxmimum job entry number
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41A   
Keywords:  JOB NUMBER, MAXIMUM, BATCH, PRINT, QUEUES, VMS
Organization: University of Houston-Downtown
X-Lunar-Date: 6 days, 10 hours, 45 minutes since the full moon
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:12:00 GMT

How do you change the maxmimum job number for print and batch jobs?  I've looked
but cannot find anything?  Our VAXes here reset to 1 when 1000 is reached but
I've seen job numbers over 1900 on other VAXes.  I'm running VMS 5.5. 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
               Richard Huntington - Operating Systems Specialist
               University of Houston-Downtown, Houston, Texas USA
Bitnet - csc_richard@uhdbit                         Internet - richard@dt.uh.edu
          ". . . and the glory of the world becomes less than it was." 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Xref: sparky comp.os.vms:13579 comp.sys.dec:4491
From: nagy@nagy.fnal.gov (Frank J. Nagy:VAX Wizard&Loose Cannon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: New VAXes/VAXstations: can these be realized?
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:00:56 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.vms
Organization: Fermilab Computing Division

>> What would make it impossible for DEC to make a multi(VAX)processor
>> VAXstation in the same box as a 4000 model 60 or 90, for instance a four
>> 32VUPprocessor VAXstation 4000 model 94? (imagine 120VUP on the desktop
>> :)  VMS can't be the problem: it supports SMP since V5.0.
> 
> Technologically speaking, there's nothing keeping DEC from developing a
> multiprocessor VAXstation based on the 32 VUP chipset.
> 

Digital actually had a multiprocessor VAXstation.  Now what was that
name... The VAXstation 3520 (2 CPUs) and 3540 (4 CPUs) as I remember.
These were based on the same chip used in the 3100 on a board with
two processors which fitted into an M-BUS backplane (which then had
an adapter to a Qbus).

> Ah, but 4 32VUP processors does not equal one 120 VUP box.  The only time you
> are ever going to take full advantage of having more than a single processor is
> if there are multiple processes (or threads) in the compute queue ready for a
> processor.  

Actually, a multiprocessor VAXstation makes even more sense today.
It was noted that the VS 3520 ran pretty well - what happened was that
the X server code ended up running on one CPU and the client application
on the other.  Using X automatically guarantees that any display application
is going to have >= 2 processes.  Also, the old VAX Workstation Software
(VWS) is pretty much dead; this was a kernel-based graphics windowing system
and was not useable on a multiprocessor.

> The development costs of such a system are probably prohibitive as well based
> on the returns.  

I believe that the software costs to VMS should not be any more difficult
than those needed for any new VAX since VMS supports SMP already.  The
hardware might be just a tad more difficult (more board real estate for
the second CPU, cache synchronization and the like) but its not clear it
is worth it today when a 2x or 3x faster chip is just 4-6 months away
anyway.

I do believe that 2nd or maybe 3rd generation of the Alpha machines will
begin to see multiprocessor workstations reappear as a means of getting
higher performance (remember that one of the means of getting the 1000x
performance improvement in the Alpha lifetime is multiprocessing and this
likely means across the entire line of Alpha systems).

= Dr. Frank J. Nagy   "VAX Guru & Wizard, Loose Cannon"  {{Group Leader!}}
= Fermilab Computing Division/Distributed Computing Dept/Special Projects Grp
= HEPnet/SPAN: FNDCD::NAGY (43123::NAGY) or FNAL::NAGY (43009::NAGY)
= Internet: NAGY@FNAL.FNAL.GOV            = BitNet: NAGY@FNAL
= USnail: Fermilab POB 500 MS/234 Batavia, IL 60510
From: lakia@ipact.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: re: Getting notified when a process terminates?
Date: 13 Aug 92 08:20:15 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: IPACT, Valparaiso IN

In article <9208110358.AA01660@uu3.psi.com>, leichter@lrw.com (Jerry Leichter) writes:
> 
> 	Say... does anyone out there know what a "Termination Mailbox" is?  I
> 	have an application whereby I'll want a single process to "monitor" a
> 	group of other processes to measure how long they've been online for
>rest deleted....
>
One could also tell all authors of the programs you are interested
in monitoring to set up exit handlers.  These exit handlers 
could send a mail message to a permenant mail box that your
monitor could be looking at.   This however will not work
if someone does a delete process  (such as the DCL STOP command).
However, I used a function available for user written system
services that allow the system service to be called on
process rundown, regardless if the process was deleted, or
exited.  We wrote also wrote a simple DCL command that implemented the
SYS$FORCEX which allows exit handlers to run.  We used FORCEX processname
instead of the STOP command.  I've always wondered why 
digital didn't make the forcexit the default instead of
the delete process for the STOP command.  That was
one thing nice about the RSX11M ABORT AST.


Earl Lakia			Email:  LAKIA@IPACT.COM
IPACT Inc.			Voice:  219-464-7212
260 South Campbell		FAX:    219-462-5387
Valparaiso, IN   46383

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: gvrod@isuvax.iastate.edu (R Eldridge, VMS FOREVER)
Subject: Re: VFE file editor
Reply-To: gvrod@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:51:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.131008.2321@lsl.co.uk>,
paul@lsl.co.uk (Paul Hardy) writes:
>[...text deleted...]
>
>However we now have a need to use VFE to modify the last block of a 17MB ascii
>file, and can't remember how to persuade VFE to open a file for write. I have
>tried the obvious things of /WRITE, /UPDATE, -w, etc before and after the
>filename but no joy. The HELP facility is good but lacks this vital piece of
>information. I haven't got a FM to RT!
>
>[...more text deleted...]
>
If you have the symbol VFE defined as  a foreign command, the  following  is
the full format of the VFE command:

     $ VFE [/set-options] [filename] [/file-qualifiers]

[/set-options] are optional, and can be one or more of  the  valid  SET
options, less the SET command itself.

[filename] is the name of the file or device to edit.  If not given on
the command line, it will be solicited.

[/file-qualifiers] are optional, and can be one or more of the  options
described with the FILE command.

For example:

     $ VFE/NOCASE/RADIX=HEX/LOG=FILEX.LOG FILEX.DAT/WRITE

rod eldridge
vms systems support      gvrod@isuvax.iastate.edu
iowa state university    gvrod@isuvax.bitnet    
(515) 294-7498           fax: (515) 294-1717
From: jem7049@nobs.boeing.com (Joe Meadows (952-0469))
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: VMS Mail - USERNAME Lookup Needed...
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:25:56 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

>Useful hack:  If you send mail to a forwarded address, and the address for-
>warded to is invalid, the message shows the forwarding address, not the
>original one.  This allows you to hide useful information in a forwarding
>address.  Hence:
>
>       MAIL> set forward/user:"j.doe" USE_JANE.OR_JOE.DOE

Usefull hack continuation - the following also works:

MAIL> set forward/user=j.doe """""as J.Doe, try Jane.Doe or John.Doe"""""
MAIL> send
To: j.doe
%MAIL-E-NOSUCHUSR, no such user as J.Doe, try Jane.Doe or John.Doe

Wow. Note that the five quotes on each end are required. Gross eh?

Cheers,
Joe Meadows	j.meadows@tardis.boeing.com or meadowsj@boeing.com or ...
From: vaxs09@v7.vitro.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Undocumented DCL feature
Date: 13 Aug 92 08:54:03 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Vitro Corporation

In article <7222224@zl2tnm.gen.nz>, don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes) writes:
> Of course Real DCL hackers use f$fao for everything, eg:
> 
> 		$ if f$fao("!SL", symb) .eq. symb
> 		$ then	write SYS$OUTPUT "symb is Integer"
> 		$ else	write SYS$OUTPUT "symb is String"
> 		$ endif

Nice try and one of the first things I thought of, but just to be picky...

$ symb = "2147403648"	! So that descriptor address = string value
$ if f$fao("!SL", symb) .eq. symb
$ then  write SYS$OUTPUT "symb is Integer"
$ else  write SYS$OUTPUT "symb is String"
$ endif

$ @test.com
symb is Integer

	John Briggs			vaxs09@v7.vitro.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: olin@cheme.tn.cornell.edu (Steve Thompson)
Subject: Re: RF35 problems
Reply-To: olin@cheme.tn.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University School of Chemical Engineering
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 13:11:55 GMT

In article <6044@npri6.npri.com>, richard@npri6.npri.com (Richard Head) writes:
>Anyone that has attempted to order an RF35 recently knows there is a
>120 day lead time for this disk drive.  My salesperson attempted to 
>explain this by saying Digital was "integrating new technology into the
>drive", but the reality is the RF35 has serious reliability problems.
>I know sites that are experiencing RF35 nightmares right now.
>
>If you're ordering a disk, I strongly advise you consider a disk other
>than the RF35 or RF352.
>-- 
>richard@npri6.npri.com  <Richard Head>
>I've fallen and I can't reach my beer!

I have two RF35's that have been running just fine thank you for three
months. Delivery time from order was about three weeks. Fastest disk
I ever saw - when booting a whole bunch of satellites from an RF35
system disk on a VAX 4000/500, the RF35 sustains an average of 85 I/O's
per second for about 30 minutes during the boot, which is about three
times what a Wren VII previously used for the job could do.

What evidence do you have that there's something wrong with the RF35?

Steve

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Steve Thompson, System Mangler   Internet: thompson@cheme.tn.cornell.edu
School of Chemical Engineering   Bitnet:   thompson@crnlchme
Olin Hall, Cornell University    Phone:    (607) 255 5573
Ithaca NY 14853
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms