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From: whagius@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Walker Logan Hagius)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Alice in Chains
Date: 23 Nov 1992 13:25:47 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <00964010.F9F907A0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>Has anybody heard the new Alice in Chains tape entitled "Dirt."  I'm curious
>about what it sounds like, and how heavily people would recomment it (also,
>how does it compare to their "Facelift," etc.).  It's gotten at least one
>good review that I know of, but I don't always agree with reviewers.  Thanks,

	I bought the disc the day it came out and to tell the truth, I didn't
like it at first because it's different than "Facelift". So I put it away for a
few days and then got it out again. Lo and behold, I liked it and listened to
it all day (week).
	They still have a very distintive style and sound but "Dirt" is more
musically sophisticated and the songs differ more than those on "Facelift".
Layne Staley also plays guitar on the new one, along with Jerry Cantrell. I
highly recommend it (more than "Facelift", even). What else? It also has some
kind of mellow stuff to balance out the album.
	That's my opinion, anyway!

				---Walker Logan Hagius---


Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: dbl50872@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel Brian Lake)
Subject: Fatima Mansions
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:25:34 GMT

Glanced at the Poll Of Polls,

Noticed that the Fatima Mansions recieved enough votes to get in, did they
just put out a new album? saw 13. "Evil Man"-Fatima Mansions for best song and
I know this is not off of Viva Dead Ponies.  Is this from a new single or album?

You missed Pale Divine when you put the best live acts down though.

-Danl
dbl50872@uiuc.edu

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: igj@amy13.stanford.edu (Ian Glen Jacobs)
Subject: Slow Bongo Floyd
Keywords: who are they?
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 04:34:26 GMT


Any info on the band Slow Bongo Floyd....

I know they do a song that infected my brain called "I Love You More Than  
Jesus", but alas I know nothing else about or by them...


-I-
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: tim@vestek.com (Tim McGinnis)
Subject: 5 All time singer/songwriters from r.m.misc
Organization: Vestek Systems
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 19:02:55 GMT


From rec.music.misc


>a) Must compose/co-compose most of his/her recordings.
>b) Must have a long, regular and successful history (>10 yrs).
>c) I must like them (well it is my top five !).
>
>01.  Lioniel Richie
>02.  Phil Collins
>03.  Elton John
>04.  Paul McCartney
>05.  Neil Diamond
>



Aren't you glad alt.music.alternative exists?



tim
tim@vestek.com
From: sherw@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gregory Sherwin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Viva...Del Santo!
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:48:25 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Nov12.184430.9624@ms.uky.edu> brian@nx19.mik.uky.edu (Brian hoffman) writes:
>> still Moist/Baited Breath I'd probably have heard about or seen it by  
>
>what label it's on, though.  Doesn anyone know where they're from or seen  
>them live?  That would be an interesting show.  They played in Louisville  
>-Brian

SCOTS (as they are called in the NC indie press) are from central
North Carolina I think, though I can't exactly pinpoint where (probably
somewhere OTHER than the Triangle).  The owner of Moist records is a local
to Chapel Hill, NC (who can often be seen frequenting the Cat's Cradle on
Franklin), and I once saw SCOTS play at a show he attended at CC, but I don't
think they're from Chapel Hill.

Live they are a lot of fun and downright silly, but in a fun way.
greg
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.bluenote,rec.music.country.western
From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Subject: Greatest lineup surveypoll
Organization: Victoria University of Technology
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:45:00 GMT

** MAIL your responses, DO NOT POST them to the newsgroups
 as I do not read all of the newsgroups.

 I am conducting a survey to find the greatest lineups for
 bands playing in various styles (Eg the greatest lineup
 for a blues band, the greatest lineup for a metal band).
 Members can be dead OR alive.

 I am posting this to most music style related news-group.
 I am excluding certain newsgroups such as alt.fan.rush
 (or whatever) because it concentrates on one particular
 band. I am excluding other musical styles such as rap
 because instruments are rarely used and classical because
 there are too many intruments.

 Here are the musical styles and newsgroups I'm posting to.

 Alternative: alt.music.alternative
 Blues: rec.music.bluenote
 Country\country&western: rec.music.country.western
 Folk: rec.music.folk
 Funk: rec.music.funky
 Hardcore: alt.skinheads & alt.music.hardcore
 Hard rock: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
 Heavy metal\metal: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
 Industrial: rec.music.industrial & alt.industrial
 Jazz: rec.music.bluenote
 Progressive: alt.music.progressive
 Rock'n'roll: alt.rock-n-roll
 Thrash: alt.thrash

 ** PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING CAREFULLY **

 When posting please tell me what type of band this lineup
 is for. Please also choose appropriate musicians for the
 musical style (John Lennon was a genius but don't put him 
 in a hardcore band).

 All band lineups must have a maximum of six members. The
 lineup MUST have a core of a vocalist, lead guitarist,
 bass player and drummer. If one of the members of the
 lineup is multi-talented (Eg Sting, bass player and
 vocalist) that member will only count as one member. But
 the band should be able to play live so somebody able to
 play guitar and drums is useless. A vocalist that can play
 harmonica and rythm (Eg Neil Young) is not useless as they
 can coordinate their playing. You get the picture. Some
 bands would probably be better served by having more
 members but I don't care, I want to keep it reasonably
 simple. Any extra members will not be included.

 MAIL your responses DO NOT POST to the newsgroups as I do
 not read all of them. I will be running the survey for no
 longer than a month. I will post the result soon after I
 close the survey but may also post updates.

 Jed
From: kbennett@sumax.seattleu.edu ( Slacker Goddess)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Juliana Hatfield
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:56:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Seattle University


I'm a big Blake Babies/Juliana fan, and I would classify much more as
"jangly guitar pop" with a grunge-ish edge to it sometimes, rather than
"ethereal" in any way.  She *is* truly an excellent songwriter, and,
although the previous writer attempted some comparisons, basically she is
comparable to none.  Or, I'd compare her more to J. Mascis or her buddies
in the Lemonheads, rather than any of the female artists the previous
writer cited.  Her strength is in her lyrics: twisted, very *real*
portrayals of flawed human relationships, strange and accurate ways with
words and images -- "I hold him like a loaded gun/you know he might go off
with anyone" -- etc.  And yes, she doesn't have a "pretty" voice, but as
someone on this group said a long time ago (this stuck in my head), even
though she can't really sing beautifully, her singing sounds very
beautiful.  I think that's because it is *accurate,* very emotional,
straight from the heart, and a heart that has no illusions.

Lena

  "here comes the song I love so much
  makes me wanna go and fuck shit up
  now I've got nirvana in my head
  I'm so glad I'm not dead."  -- Juliana Hatfield
From: mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Morrissey book
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:09:13 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1992Nov21.080233.28492@panix.com>, nancyw@panix.com (Nancy Weiner) writes:
> Anyone have the new picture book of Morrissey (working title a while back 
> was "linder shoots morrissey")   is it any good? how are the captions?
> any real info in there?
>   thanks!


I saw "Morrissey Shot" in a bookstore at the weekend.  It's got a lot of quite
good photographs (Morrissey on a train, Morrissey in the street, Morrissey
beside a tree etc) but you could probably get as good a book by cutting
pictures out of the NME.  Morissey's annotations are a waste of time really. 
If you've ever taken the time to read the messages in the run-out grooves of
his records, then hat's what to expect...only this time there's hundreds of
them.
    Get it out of the library, but don't buy it.




Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: "chris benn" <chris.benn@canrem.com>
Subject: rare live recordings
Reply-To: "chris benn" <chris.benn@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 16 Nov 92 01:04:35 EST

Are you selling or trading?  If your trading, I'd be interested in the
REM and any Janes Addiction, New Model Army if you have any.  I have
over 140 tapes of crap to trade.  Reply if interested.
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: kbennett@sumax.seattleu.edu (Pretty Rainy Out)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Superchunk
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:33:13 GMT
Organization: Seattle University

Ooops, sorry about that null post.  Anyway, I was saying:

Someone loaned me Superchunk's "No Pocky For Kitty" and I've really been
liking it.  I wanted to know if anyone could tell me more about this band,
like if they have anything else out. 

Also, I figure from the credits that they're from North Carolina (am I
right?), which made me think that a lot of the really distinctive bands
that I've liked over time are from what would in general be called the
South, e.g., early Fetchin' Bones, Antietam, Pylon, Eleventh Dream Day....

Lena

      kbennett@sumax.seattleu.edu

      "My writing/like tiny insects/in the palm of history"
                            -- Thomas Dolby, "Dissidents"

      "My home town, it's more than a town to me
      it's more than plain, it's a city of pain,
      it's one big factory!"
                           -- Mark Mothersbaugh
From: x3460afe@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: felt
Date: 23 Nov 92 08:56:30 GMT
Reply-To: x3460afe@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida - CIRCA


    from the bedridden desk of caroliner rainbow:

hmm...'final resting of the ark', jeez, i haven't listened to that in a long
time, and i'm sick as a dog right now, so i'm not getting up to go have a 
looksee at the tracks...but...
felt used to be my favourite band at one time (till i discovered the wedding
present) and will always be one of the best bands in the world...
i have everything they've ever done, except of course the 'index' single, 
and a very limited edition 10 inch (of 'sunlight bathed the golden glow', i
believe)...and just the other day i recieved a neat-o tape from my friend
phillip king (felt's former bass player (live) and now the bassist for 
lush) with a live felt show (containing 'when the dawn comes creeping in',
an unreleased track), and some 'poem of the river' demos, as well as a very
funny interview and some other phil and lawrence things...
lawrence is now in a wierd band called 'denim'...i have a pre-mixed copy of
the new album, called 'back in denim', as well as the new 12 inch...
and he's also done a techno single (believe it or not) under the name
'supermarket'.....well, i hope you find all of this very interesting, cause
i have to go blow my nose...see ya...

     -   caroliner waitress eat y'self fitter stable cow.
From: rjc@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Caley)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Grunge - it's NOT new
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:49:50 GMT
Organization: Human Communication Research Center
In-reply-to: rob@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP's message of 20 Nov 92 16:51:59 GMT


Erm, this is meant to be news?

a) Any music discussed on the net must be fairly widely known,
	otherwise there couldn't be a discussion across the world.

b) The music industry for at least the past couple of decades has been
	set up in such a way that anything which is widely known must
	be at leat ten years old, since it takes them ten years to
	pick something up from whatever local scene it has developed in.

Therefore, nothing discussed on the net is new.

--
rjc@cogsci.ed.ac.uk	Corollory: anything discussed in
				alt.music.alternative is mainstream.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: ges@stiatl.salestech.com (Gerald Sullivan)
Subject: Re: FALL LYRICS
Organization: Sales Technologies, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:46:16 GMT

cluster@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (General Access) writes:

>My kingdom for a Fall lyric...even a sentence will suffice...a syllable..
>pllllleeeease!

His mouth is in his brain. (Oswald defense Lawyer)

What do you seek? Oblivion. (Arms Control Poseur)

Hey there butt face . (The Classical)
I just went to the hotel amnesia. Where it is, I can't remember. ("")

Terry Waite says.. (Terry Waite)


Does anyone know if the Fall will visit the USA anytime soon?



-- 
___________________________________________________________________
Jerry Sullivan, Sales Technologies, Inc.  Atlanta,GA 
ges@salestech.com,...uupsi!stiatl!ges I don't speak for my employer.
Just say no to Republicrats, vote Libertarian.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: Jens Alfke <jens_alfke@gateway.qm.apple.com>
Subject: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:17:38 GMT
X-Xxdate: Wed, 18 Nov 92 23:19:14 GMT
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7300F727F01140E@jensmac.apple.com>
Organization: Apple Computer

In article <1992Nov16.200606.15734@wam.umd.edu> Ara Hacopian,
ahacop@next07cville.wam.umd.edu writes:
>I have a discography that also lists a bunch of other records but as
maybe  
>a couple of you MBV fans have found out (after shelling out $18 for
"This  
>Is Your Bloody Valentine") the band before "You Made Me Realise" sounded
 
>COMPLETELY different. They were REALLY REALLY horrible.

Actually you left out the first release with the current line-up:
"Ecstasy and Wine", which combines the "Strawberry Wine" single and
"Ecstasy" EP, both from '87.

It's not at all like what they sound like now, and significantly
different even than "You Made Me Realise", but still good pop. If you
like the Primitives' first album you'll probably like "Ecstasy and Wine".

[It was originally released on Lazy Records, has been almost unobtainable
for a few years, and has started showing up again in the US in the past
few months.]

--Jens Alfke
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Oy CARAMBA!- help...
From: egertsenzon@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:59:06 EST
Organization: Wesleyan University

Help!

Have any of you heard of Caramba?
I have been looking for their tape for a long time now.

any info will be greatly appreciated...

please e-mail replies to:
EGERTSENZON@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU

thanks,
elena
From: thethe@riemann.WPI.EDU (Quincy Cabell)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: The The
Date: 20 Nov 1992 20:25:15 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: riemann.wpi.edu

I just recently heard that the new the The album, "Dusk" will be released
in January.  No word as to why, but I heard it from a distributor so I 
doubt they would have know even if I'd asked (I know delay is nothing 
unusual).  

Anyone know much about the group?  Or heard about any upcoming tours, etc.
I just got the video the The versus The World and it's pretty cool...

Send me any info you have...   - Quincy (thethe@wpi.wpi.edu)
From: u6066061@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: KMFDM New Singles?
Date: 18 Nov 92 12:55:57 +1100
Organization: The University of Melbourne

In article <1992Nov12.150438.27038@cis.ohio-state.edu>, balogh@anaconda.cis.ohio-state.edu (kevin m balogh) writes:
> Where have the New KMFDM Singles been released ?
> 
> I hear there are three out but can find them no where locally.
> 
> I would like to hear from every one who has seen or heard them
> 	for a review also.


are you refering to the "Money" album and associated singles?  if you are...
Let me first say that i prefer the earliest KMFDM albums "Blow Your Top" and
ah...what was it called... "What do you Know Deutchland" (sp?) i think. 
And second, although i like dance music, i find the new direction of KMFDM
fairly boring.

that said, i find thier new album, well, boring.  if you like Nitzer Eb you may
like this album.  if you prefer Skinny Puppy, 242 and Front Line Assembly, you
might like me, find the new album pretty bland.
> 
> 
> -- 
> &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&  balogh@cis.ohio-state.edu  &&&&&&&
> How do you know she is a witch? ->She turned me into a newt... I got better
> School of Fish ..........RULE
> &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&  kbalogh@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu  &&&&&&&
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS)
Subject: Re: L7 and Front 242
Originator: cmgeorg@c00581-1403br.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:31:27 GMT


In article <1992Nov16.212934.26279@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, christian@Turing.ORG (Christian Claiborn) writes:
|>>also, I a m a front 242 fan. Are there any other groups whose music ressembles
|>>front 242's ... I heard about Vomito Negro, and Meat Beat Manifesto... am I on the
|>>right track ????
|>
|>I'd recommend Nitzer Ebb for any loyal Front fan.  
|>

Frontline Assembly (to me) seems to go hand in hand with Front 242.  You 
should also check out Cat Rapes Dog, AJAX, and probably Ministry-"Twitch"

-chris

 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++                                                                           
 +      Chris Georgoulias                                                    +
 + North Carolina State University                                           +
 +     cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu                                                  +
 +                                                                           +
 + "Aah... who cares about school...who cares about life...who cares about   +
 +  me.  Not me, that's for sure!  Look!...(punches himself in the head)..   +
 +  ...I just don't care!"                                                   +
 +                                       -Vyvian,  The Young Ones            +                                             
 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Subject: Re: Rare GODFLESH 7" ??? 
Originator: tphailey@c00474-224wi.eos.ncsu.edu
Keywords: Godflesh
Reply-To: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:52:04 GMT


In article <1992Nov18.085321.26091@ifi.uio.no>, berntr@ifi.uio.no (Bernt Olav Rostad) writes:
|> Nntp-Posting-Host: kolsaas.ifi.uio.no
|> Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
|> Path: taco!rock!stanford.edu!agate!spool.mu.edu!yale.edu!jvnc.net!darwin.sura.net!Sirius.dfn.de!mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE!news.netmbx.de!Germany.EU.net!mcsun!sunic!aun.uninett.no!nuug!ifi.uio.no!berntr
|> From: berntr@ifi.uio.no (Bernt Olav Rostad)
|> Subject: Rare GODFLESH 7" ??? 
|> Message-ID: <1992Nov18.085321.26091@ifi.uio.no>
 berntr@ifi.uio.no (Bernt Olav Rostad) writes: 

|>   A few days back I picked up a Godflesh 7"
|> at Rough Trade, Talbot Road in London. It's titled
|> "My Own Light" and includes two songs:
|>   
|>         A. My own light
|>         B. Love is a dog from hell
|> 
|> There is no more info on the sleeve or the disc.
|> 
|> What is this? A bootleg?? If anyone should know
|> please e-mail me.

Those two songs are from the Pathological compilation.
It's pretty good and has unreleased songs by Godflesh
Silverfish, The Stretch Heads, God, Carcass, Napalm Death
and some others, I think. If the record isn't on 
Pathological, I would guess it's a bootleg. Isn't "Love
is a Dog From Hell" a Charles Bukowski book? I dunno.

TOMASS
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.industrial
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: Negativland - U2 story from a different perspective
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 22:41:40 GMT

In <1ek0auINN914@agate.berkeley.edu> sherw@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gregory Sherwin) writes:
>My first reaction was that I wanted to burn any Island record or CD I
>owned, but then I started to think some about the situation.  Negativland
>KNEW what they were doing when they got into that mess.  I don't think they
>were so naive not to think that coming out with an album with a huge
>'U2' on the cover and samplings from the group wouldn't bring lawsuits
>and the like from Island Records.

That's your problem--you don't think.  Or perhaps more accurately, you
don't research or read.

I've you've bothered to read anything about this, apparently the numero
uno problem Island had was the cover.  Negativland OFFERED to change the
cover.  Island said "no, we're suing you", and then later "well, we
won't continue suing you, but you have to pay the incredible legal
expenses we've already gone to".

>Just a different perspective on a subject that I have usually heard only
>one side of -- Negativland aren't the innocent martyrs that many people
>want to make them out to be.

While I'm sure they had some clue that they might upset someone,
I think they probably expected some trouble, but not a shotgun in
the face.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
 Insofar as the laws of mathematics are certain, they do not refer to reality,
          and insofar as they refer to reality, they are not certain.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: ahacop@next07cville.wam.umd.edu (Ara Hacopian)
Subject: Re: Lilys
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 03:17:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.210408.22622@samba.oit.unc.edu>  
Mark.Cornick@launchpad.unc.edu (Mark Cornick) writes:
> In article <By2w05.FzI@rice.edu> hk@caesar.rice.edu (hyonchol kahng)  
writes:
> >
> >Has anyone heard of this band?  I bought a CD of theirs, called _In the
> >Presence of Nothing_, and was quite amazed.  It's like these folks  
outdid
> >the Valentines at probably one-tenth the cost.  A friend of mine tells  
me
> >that they're from the Washington DC area - has anyone been fortunate  
enough
> >to catch them live (and if so, what are they like?).
> 
> yup... the Lilys are indeed from suburban Maryland, just outside DC.  
Aside
> from _Presence Of Nothing_ they have a 7" on Slumberland, a few
> compilation tracks here and there, and an upcoming 10" on SpinArt.  
They're
> so-so live--not bad, but probably not worth what you pay to see them. I  
do

I'd say that the Lilys are definitely MUCH rockier live. But, they broke  
up so it doesn't matter anyway. Yes they are from Suburban maryland. They  
hate the record, but their fools.

Velocity Girl should have a seven-inch coming out in about a week or two  
and the album will be out in March.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: rcj@engin.umich.edu (R o d Johnson)
Subject: Re: PEARL JAM
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 12:32:37 EST
Organization: Lost Tribes of Gazebo

In article <Bxx0D1.6r7@news.ucs.mun.ca> cweir@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Corey Weir) writes:

>         In response to the person who claimed that Pearl Jam sucks, my
>reply is this: DO YOU HAVE ANY TASTE AT ALL? I mean if you can't
>appreciate the beauty and energy of the band's obvious musical genius,
>you don't have to spread your distasteful opinion on to everybody else.

But they *do* suck.

>Before you go and say that a band sucks, think about what others may
>think and say first, OK? 

Why?

>God, next thing you'll be saying that Faith No
>More is garbage as well. 

But they *are* garbage.

>Don't make me come over there...

Whatever.

-- 
       Rod Johnson  *  rcj@caen.engin.umich.edu  *  (313) 764-3103
    
                "What I do doesn't happen in a warehouse"
                                          --Jim Dickinson
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