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From: misch@eurom.rhein-main.de (Michaela Merz)
Subject: Re: MONEY + Linux
Organization: Free Software Association of Germany
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 22:48:43 GMT

On Sat, 19 Dec 1992 04:14:47 GMT, rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) wrote:

|>A commercial support organization like this already exists!  This is
|>the sort of thing Cygnus Support exists for.  A university could,
|>right now, contact Cygnus about a support contract for Linux.
|>Individuals are also free to provide the same service.  Are you saying
|>you think there needs to be a single central source for such support?
|>Why?
|>
|>Does anyone from Cygnus want to comment on this?  Does anyone from
|>Cygnus read comp.os.linux?

we do also support LINUX and other FREE Software products. In most
cases for free.......

Michaela
Free Software Association of Germany
misch@eurom.fsag.incom.de


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From: ggeorge@bu.edu (Gerry George)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Gcc help needed
Date: 14 Dec 92 08:47:03 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5



I have a similar problem (or two).  whenever I try to compile, I get the
message
		make *** [main.o] IOT trap/ABORT (core dumped)

or some variation, depending on the program I try to make.  Also, I get 
permission errors when attempting a compile when other than root.  Need some
help in figuring out those problems.

Gerry George
From: barr@stein.u.washington.edu (David Barr)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can X run with only 4 megs RAM?
Date: 13 Dec 92 02:18:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec13.021857.12217
Organization: University of Washington

>In article <dpn2.193.724200652@po.CWRU.Edu> dpn2@po.CWRU.Edu (Damien P. Neil) writes:

>>took it about an hour to start up, mouse movements are recognized only after 
>>a 2-3 minute wait, and it takes almost ten minutes for keystrokes to appear 
>>in bash...

>>Since I see a large amount of disk thrashing, I assume that there is a lot 
>>of swapping going on. Since I have only 4 megs of RAM, and a ~6 meg swap 
>>partition, this is not surprising. But does it have to be this slow? I had 
>>thought that X was usable with 4 megs RAM -- was I wrong? Please say no!

>>My system is a 486 SX/25.

I have X running on a 386 33Mhz (4 megs) with no problems.
Performance is quite good.  I have an 8 meg swap file.  I'm not sure
what the problem with your setup is.

David
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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 16:39:19 MST
From: vickersd@bones.et.byu.edu (David S. Vickers)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Subject: gwm


  I just uploaded a working gwm to sunsite.unc.edu.  It should be in the
directory pub/Linux/X11/Incoming, and the file is called
gwm-libX11.so.2.1.tar.Z.  I had to do the lex & yacc stuff on
campus HP machines and make a few other hacks to the source code, but it
seems to work.  I compiled with libX11 version 2.1, gcc 2.2.2d7, libc4.1,
and linux 0.98pl5.  It's compiled with -fwritable-strings, so there should
be no problems with writing to the text segment.
   Because I'm lazy, I just grabbed the old gwm.tar.Z on
sunsite, substituted the new binary, and re-packaged it.  If I get some
time and people request it (by e-mail, please), I'll upload my diffs to
the source and the lex & yacc output files and a corrected directory
structure (If you use the standard /usr/X386/... directory structure,
you'll have to move things around).

-David
From: berk@techsys.mcws.fidonet.org (Berk Walker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Serial IRQ polling
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 20:22:29 PST
Organization: Private for Now

> 
> It is interesting that Coherent could do this with no problem. There was a
> small decrease in speed but who cared... it ran unbelivably slow anyway.
> 

Polling slows Coherent 4.0 in a drastic fashion.  It didn't seem to 
affect SCO Xenix 2.2.4, tho.  (some serial multiport boards are set up to 
run w/o interrupts in Xenix)

Berk Walker                           berk@techsys.mcws.fidonet.org

Xref: sparky comp.os.linux:21207 comp.windows.x.i386unix:82
From: dawes@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Dawes)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: Re: Problems getting X to run
Date: 21 Dec 92 01:07:38 GMT
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia

In article <fluet.724691733@ee.ualberta.ca> fluet@ee.ualberta.ca (Kevin Blaine Fluet) writes:
>wpwood@queball.austin.ibm.com (Bill Woodward) writes:
>>   I have been trying for about a week to get X to run on my ET-4000 based
>>graphics card.  I am getting the error message :
>>Fatal server error:
>>could not open default font 'fixed'
>
>I got exactly the same message until I _removed_ the Type1 directory line
>from my Xconfig file.  I am _very_ new to linux/X, so I don't know why I
>works, but it solved my problem.

The server will fail to start up unless each of the directories in
the FontPath exists and contains a file called fonts.dir.  In the next
release we plan to have the server validate the FontPath specified in
Xconfig during startup and provide better error messages.

David
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From: dsc3pzp@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Philip Perucci)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: QIC-02 reliable?
Date: 17 Dec 92 14:44:32 GMT
Organization: Naval Medical Research & Development Command

Hi,
  I am looking at the Wangtek 1550 QIC-02 as an alternative
to SCSI tape backup (don't have either at present).  Don't
want to get caught in SCSI 1 vs SCSI 2 crossfire.  
Is the QIC-02 driver reliable with Wangtek 1550, 0.99, and
IDE drives at this time?

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From: rchen@fraser.sfu.ca (Robert Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: A proposal for organizing comp.os.linux. [NEW-CHANNELS]
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:23:06 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

In article <1992Dec13.204007.17189@reed.edu> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>For what it's worth, I think comp.os.linux is damned near unreadable.
>It isn't just that there are 150 messages a day. The messages in this
>newsgroup are completely disorganized. There are 150 messages and 100
>different threads! I'm disappointed that the group reorg didn't pass.
>
>However, if a few of the louder voices on comp.os.linux really wanted
>to, we could still split comp.os.linux this week. Instead of splitting
>it according to the normal Usenet voting procedures, split it into the
>alt groups. Alt groups don't require a vote - a week's discussion on
>alt.config seems to be sufficient.
>
>nelson@reed.edu \/   You're free, so anything could happen, so happy birthday

Sigh.  Do you people have any idea how much traffic is left in c.o.l linux
after you kill these stupid threads?  Not a lot.  The splitting of
c.o.l vote failed for a reason.  Why do you think doing it anyway will
solve anything?  What's more (I don't know why people cannot see this;
it has been mentioned a zillion times) - splitting newsgroups does
not decrease traffic!  It increases it.  I read comp.os.linux.announce
because I don't want to miss the announcement of any new toys.  Then I
have to read the same damn articles again in c.o.l!  How can any sane
person say this is an improvement?!

- Ken
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: andrewc@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew J. Cosgriff !)
Subject: Re: How do I provide the floppys to normal users????
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:51:10 GMT

S_ESPENLAUB@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Klaus Espenlaub) writes:

>Is there any possibility to give normal users the right to mount
>floppy drives???? I've been trying it with different success (it works only
>when floppys already in at boot time........)

>May anybody help me???????

Well, it depends...If you don't mind the security risk you could just make
mount and umount setuid root, although this is NOT a Good Thing (tm) if
you've got dial-in access...
(Or DOS partitions you don't want them to mount)

So, take your chances if you like, but I don't recommend it...
i guess you could make a setuid root script that checked what tty they're on
and what they're mounting, so they can only mount floppies and only when
they're at the console...

Perhaps I'll give this idea a go - I must admit it's a hassle having to su
all the time to mount disks...


Enjoy !

Cos !
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Distribution: na
Date: Thursday, 10 Dec 1992 17:44:43 EST
From: <ACPS7221@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Need help with doc

    Hello all:

    I am trying to port the latest version of InterViews to Linux, and I need
some help.  If any one has some experience debugging moderately complex
programs, and has the desire to get involved in a project, please send me a
note.  There is also an INTERVIEWS channel, for any one who is interested in
the progress of this port.

                                             Michael.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wolff@zen.et.tudelft.nl (Rogier Wolff)
Subject: Re: Floppy DMA, question and patch (?)
Keywords: floppy,dma,patch,kernel,0.98.6,1MB,16MB,unofficial
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:40:55 GMT

torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds) writes:

>like some SCSI cards which use DMA).  So changing the limit to 16MB
>should work fine.  Not that it probably matters very much: 99% of the
>floppy IO reads go through the track buffer, and writes aren't exactly
>timing-critical in most circumstances.. 

>		Linus

The 1% that doesn't go through the track buffer are the blocks that
surround an unreadable block. And as I use Linux to recover from
"destroyed" blocks, that would make things ever worse: Around a bad
block I'd get good readable (recoverable) data, but not in my buffer....

						Roger.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: dbx debugger out there?
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:40:35 GMT

Dennis Robinson (djr48312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
>Ive done all of my previous C debugging with dbx, Im wondering if we have
>it for linux.  I have the SLS dist. and only have gdb which I am not really
>aquanted with.

It isn't that different from dbx, and there are so many different varieties
of dbx around anyway. IMO gdb is a much nicer debugger than most dbx's I have
used, and it's got (pretty) good builtin help as well as some neat features 
(like tab completion). If you really want dbx, then you can always do:
# cd /usr/local/bin ; ln -s `which gdb` dbx
and be happy.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tglovie@sail.uwaterloo.ca ()
Subject: rz/sz under .99?
Summary: Has anyone got them working? 
Originator: tglovie@sail.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:26:59 GMT

Hello all,

After applying the inode.c fix, I have successfully installed 
Linux .99! (yay) however, now my rz and sz result in a 
segmentation fault (core dumped)
I have tried to recompile them, from the rzsz sources on tsx-11,
however I still get a seg fault (even when I used -fwritable-strings)

Has anyone got this to work? 
(on another less critical note, my ps doesn't work now...)
Thanks for any help,
Jerry

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jeremiah@cuug.ab.ca (Jerry Jeremiah 290-8941)
Subject: network over modem...
Organization: Calgary UNIX Users' Group
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:22:38 GMT

Newsgroups: poster
Subject: Networks over modem...
Organization: Calgary UNIX Users' Group

Alright, here is a question that I have always wondered about.

I have a modem.  I have a site that has a modem that connects to a unix
machine.   How do I get telnet and ftp to start my modem connection
and do everything that way instead of an ethernet adapter?

This would be so useful to me since I cannot connect directly to the tcpip
network.

Thanks for any suggestions in advance.

>>Jerry

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald)
Subject: SLS update pending
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, CANADA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 01:13:22 GMT

This weekend I will be updating SLS, so please avoid
downloading this Sunday morning (PST).  Primarily, this will be
the addition of mailpak (thanks to Vince), but also the fonts
for Ghostscript plus the afm fonts for Doc.  Note that this 
allows for the use of GS plus DOC to do real professional 
WYSIWYG composition (at last), all the way to the printer.

This adds a few more disks, so that the 'b' series now has
eight disks, and SLS (including TeX) now totals 29.  Very
shortly, it is hoped that X11 will be upgraded to jump
tables libs.  Hopefully, IV after that (at which time the
IV libs and the like will be included, and maybe 3.1 will be
out).  

So there will be yet another big upgrade after this one, but hopefully, 
that will be the last major one, and SLS will level off around the
30-32 disk mark.   Pretty hefty, but pretty complete (well, a nice
balance between complete and lean).  

One last thing:  Before the X11 is rebuilt and re-released, I want
to look at recompiling just the device specific stuff into a shared 
library that the X Server can use.  Hopefully, then different shared
libs can be linked to /lib/libXdevice implement different types of
servers.  This will let SLS distribute multiples servers without
having to store the rest of the server image.  Could some kind
soul please mail me where I can get the source for just the vga
devices, etc, so I can play with this, or establish why it can't be
done?

Thanks

Peter
pmacdona@sanjuan.uvic.ca
From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Zip for distributions?
Date: 15 Dec 1992 15:37:41 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu


The free `Zip' utility, and it's compress-like son `Gzip' get
significantly better compression than the traditional `compress'.  Is
there any particularly good reason not to use them for distributions?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: axi0349@ultb.isc.rit.edu (A.X. Ivasyuk)
Subject: [NET]: Problems with 0.99
Originator: axi0349@ultb
Reply-To: axi0349@ultb.rit.edu ()
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:53:33 GMT


I'm having a few problems trying to get my box hooked up to my roommates.
Here's the setup:
  My box:    386/40, 8MB RAM, WD8003E card, kernel 0.99 (-scsi,+sound,+tcp/ip).
  Roommates: 386sx/16, 2MB RAM, 3c503 card, kernel 0.99 (-scsi,-sound,+tcp/ip).

I am not running named on either machine.  I have the hosts file set up
identically on both machines:

darwin  129.30.30.1       [my machine]
fugazi  129.30.30.2       [roommate's]

The IP numbers are arbitrary since we are not hooked up to any net.

NOTE: I have not applied any of the tcp patches for 0.99.  Please tell me if
it will help my situation to apply them.

I have compiled my kernel with the standard ether drivers, and my roommate's
with Donald Becker's 3c503 drivers.  The ether cards on both machines get
detected correctly (well, mine tells me its a WD8013, but that isn't a big
deal), and I can telnet to loopback on both.

I have read the latest ether FAQ, and I thought that the bit about making
sure the 3c503 had the jumpers set to map shared memory at the place
where the kernel said it was would help, but to no avail.

The problem is this:  I try to telnet out from my roommate's machine to
mine and it hangs.  I try to telnet from mine to his, and on mine it
says "WD8003 timed out." and on his it has garbled packets and it says it's
resetting the card.  I have no idea what's going on.  Please mail me any
advice.  Thanks in advance.

-Anatoly


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: andersch@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Werner Anderschitz)
Subject: ghostscript problems
Keywords: ghostscript 
Originator: andersch@sunbode6.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:21:17 GMT


Problems with Ghostscript 2.5.2 to get an outputfile for a printer.

I have compiled Ghostscript for X11 and laserjet device, but I get no output from Ghostscript for the printer. 

1. If I try to print with the command
  gs -sDEVICE=laserjet -r300 <filename>
ghostscript says initializing loading Font ... and so on. After that only the prompt is on the screen and nothing happens (the man-pages say the output will go to the scratch file, but I don't know what it means).

2. If I try the command
  gs -sDEVICE=laserjet -r300 -sOutputFile=<Outfile> <filename>
no outputfile <Outfile> is created and the same happens like the first case.

If I add a -- before the <filename> ghostscript does the same but no ghostscript prompt appears.

The output from linux should be ok, because the shellscript gslp makes an output to the outputfile when I add the switch -sOutputFile=<Outfile>. Without the switch it happens the same like the first case.

I get with the command 
  gs -sDEVICE=laserjet -r300 -sOutputFile=<Outfile> -- gslp.ps <filename>
an outputfile with postscriptcode. I can print this file on the printer but it is only the postscriptcode which is very interesting but not enough (I think the output is ok with this script).

My configuration is
  Linux 98 patchlevel 1 (from SLS Package)
  486-50 SLS Board
  ATBUS Controller with Seagate ST1144 Harddrive
  Epson EPL 4100 Laserprinter (HP-Laserjet II compatible)


Thanks for any and all help!
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: gunther@world.std.com (Gunther W Anderson)
Subject: Difference between UARTs
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:48:02 GMT

Most profuse apologies.  I looked through the FAQ, and activity on
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware, and couldn't find a meaningful treatise on
just what the specific differences between the various UARTs available
is.  I'm aware of the venerable 8250, 16450, 16550 and 16550a, but
I wish two things.  Are there any other cardinal types of UARTs, and
what technically distinguishes these?

My underlying desire is to be able to support a very fast modem.  That,
and to know everything just for the fun of it.

						Gunther
From: ron@argus.lpl.Arizona.EDU (Ron Watkins)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Linux Include Files
Keywords: types.h include
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:23:03 GMT
Organization: Lunar and Planetary Lab, U of AZ

In /usr/include/sys/types.h, all there is is an include for <linux/types.h>
When I checked this file, I noticed a define for __linux_types_h but most
software is checking for __sys_types_h. Can we include this in /usr/include/
sys/types.h just for older fogies like me who have a large installed base
checking for __sys_types_h?
If there is a better solution (other than changing all my stuff) please
let me know. Thanks
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: gt0449a@prism.gatech.edu
Subject: Re: Linux-Activists Digest #759
Reply-To: gt0449a@prism.gatech.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:37:54 GMT

I cannot seem to remove myself from this mailing list.  The list-server
doesn't seem to think that I receive it, but I get digests all the time.
I get comp.os.linux now, so I don't need to get the messages through
mail any more.

Could you please remove me from the list?
Thanks..
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius)
Subject: Re: A proposal for organizing comp.os.linux. [NEW-CHANNELS]
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:57:04 GMT

ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson) writes:
>I think people should be encouraged (to put it nicely) to use other
>newsgroups.  We could add a section to the META-FAQ to remind people
>which groups to use.

Great idea!

Hey, waitaminute, (frantically checking the copy of the Meta-FAQ from
which my crontab gets it), I already did that!  :-)

>Other newsgroups: comp.unix.{questions,shell,programming,bsd,admin}
>   Use these for Unix questions that are not directly Linux-related.  If you
>   use Linux, it may be a good idea to read these as well.

But I guess I need to update it.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mdw@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re: Zip for distributions?
Followup-To: poster
Organization: The Linux Inquisition, Propaganda Division
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 06:59:04 GMT

In article <BzC4uE.7xr@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Jeff-Randall@uiuc.edu (Jeff Randall) writes:
mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum) writes:
>Convince me that reducing the amount of cruft I need to download and
>transfer on *floppy disks* to bring a machine up isn't worthwhile.  Or
>at least try.

Why don't you download the files to your own system, uncompress/untar
them, and re-zip them yourself to put onto floppies?

If you don't like the way the current FTP sites are set up, make your
own available. End of discussion. Followups to me.

mdw
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: agc@weasel.demon.co.uk (Alan Charlton)